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| 15:13.30 | Alric | lmadsen, jsmith, either of you around? :) |
| 15:13.39 | lmadsen | nope |
| 15:13.52 | Alric | Oh :( |
| 15:25.21 | lmadsen | Alric: whats up? |
| 15:25.58 | Alric | Well I came here wanting to ask about your experiences with the Asterisk Documentation Proejct |
| 15:26.15 | Alric | I'm not really sure what I'm looking for though, or how to ask it :D |
| 15:26.44 | lmadsen | heh |
| 15:27.05 | lmadsen | I'm just on a conference call right now, so you have a bit of time to come up with a specific question :) |
| 15:27.16 | Alric | :) |
| 15:50.21 | Alric | I suppose a good place to start is how did you start with things? From a developer's perspective, its fairly easy to write documentation of things that I've written or created, but in the vast majority of these cases you're documenting functions, applications and things that you had no first hand experience in developing. How did you approach that? |
| 15:51.33 | jsmith | Very very carefully... |
| 15:51.41 | jsmith | In all seriousness, I just started writing |
| 15:51.56 | jsmith | If there was something I didn't understand, I played around with it and read the source code until I was comfortable with it |
| 15:51.58 | lmadsen | pretty much... then had a developer check to make sure what I wrote was right.... |
| 15:52.43 | Alric | Did you have a grasp on the C language when you started, or was it something you picked up along the way? |
| 15:59.07 | Alric | kicks CSS out a window, on another topic. |
| 16:00.15 | jsmith | Alric: I have a working knowledge of C, but you can easily learn to read C without knowing how to program in it |
| 16:08.24 | Alric | I ask because I've started using an OSS project extensively in my day-to-day work, but as usually tends to happen, development of new features is happening faster than they are getting documented. Complaining about a lack of documentation to my fellow developers hasn't really helped me much any, so I thought I'd consider helping out. I don't even know how much time I could commit to such an endeavour though. |
| 16:09.51 | jsmith | Alric: The biggest impediment to writing is saying to yourself "I'm not sure I can do a good job" |
| 16:10.20 | jsmith | Alric: My advice is to write every day, even if it doesn't look good. You can always edit it later - but it's a whole lot easier to edit after you've got something down on paper. |
| 16:10.29 | Alric | Defeatism? |
| 16:10.29 | jsmith | oej: Mixed versions of what? |
| 16:10.59 | oej | func_odbc. |
| 16:11.21 | oej | Thought I was using the backport, but I wasn't. Should have checked. Need energy I guess. |
| 16:11.45 | jsmith | hands oej two units of energy and a bottle of soda to wash them down with |
| 16:23.41 | ctooley | oej, what brand of candies did you bring |
| 16:25.35 | oej | Turkisk peppar |
| 16:25.36 | oej | :-) |
| 16:25.51 | oej | I'm in the wrong time zone and the wrong temperature zone. |
| 16:25.54 | oej | bad |
| 16:26.23 | jsmith | oej: Did your back do OK on the flight back home? |
| 16:27.09 | oej | jsmith: My back wasn't compatible with the seat, so it had a hard time trying to make sense of how to make the seat agree to the requirements of my back and they kind of argued about that all night, keeping me awake. |
| 16:27.30 | jsmith | :-( |
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| 19:03.48 | *** topic/#asterisk-doc by jsmith -> Welcome to the Asterisk Documentation Project / Idle Chat, a subsidiary of telcomjoshleifvoxmartenterprisesinc --=-- Asterisk: The Future of Telephony: ISBN13: 9780596514051 --==-- 2nd Edition of TFoT now shipping! --> http://tinyurl.com/382dz2 --==-- blitzrage: at the rate I'm (not) thinkin' this morning, I'm afraid to do any work --==-- Asterisk 1.6.0 finally released! |
| 19:53.08 | lmadsen | jsmith: ping! |
| 19:57.49 | jsmith | lmadsen: pong |
| 19:58.25 | lmadsen | jsmith: was just pinging in multiple locations |
| 19:58.27 | Alric | I'm here too in case you were wondering ;) |
| 20:00.27 | ctooley | Alric, no one cares about us |
| 20:00.46 | Alric | jsmith does, I'll bet. |
| 20:00.57 | jsmith | cares about *everyone* in the community |
| 20:01.01 | Alric | See? |
| 20:01.07 | ctooley | jsmith, pandering will get you nowhere |
| 20:05.53 | jsmith | ctooley: Pandering? <bill_clinton>I did not touch that panda, Miss Lebowsky...</bill_clinton> |
| 20:09.45 | Alric | I love PHP sometimes. |
| 21:38.08 | Juggie | php is both good and bad |
| 21:38.15 | Juggie | its all how you use it i suppose |
| 21:38.24 | Juggie | it lets you get away with very bad bad code sometimes |
| 21:38.46 | ctooley | very very bad code sometimes |
| 21:39.47 | jsmith | You can't legislate common sense or good coding practices |
| 21:39.52 | jsmith | 'nuff said. |
| 21:45.44 | Juggie | jsmith, theres an add in pcmag this month |
| 21:45.47 | Juggie | for some software |
| 21:46.00 | Juggie | and what i found funny was its got in the add 'user: jsmith' |
| 21:47.18 | jsmith | Juggie: w00t |
| 21:48.23 | Juggie | i think its a package that keeps track of all your passwords for diff sites/programs |
| 21:48.44 | Juggie | it had user: jsmith then password: somethingelse |
| 21:49.07 | jsmith | Juggie: How'd they get my password? |
| 21:59.01 | Juggie | hahah i dunno |
| 21:59.03 | Juggie | they haxored you |
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