| 00:00.23 | lmadsen | the tiles |
| 00:00.30 | lmadsen | the grout actually isn't too bad |
| 00:00.36 | Juggie | hmmm... |
| 00:00.38 | lmadsen | damn natural stone |
| 00:00.43 | Juggie | well most places give free estimates |
| 00:00.53 | lmadsen | aye |
| 00:02.15 | Juggie | http://www.steamkleen.ca/index.php?id=16 |
| 00:03.00 | Juggie | tile/grout is like a sponge |
| 00:03.05 | Juggie | well shitty tile and grout for sure |
| 00:03.19 | Juggie | so, mopping as you probally discovered does nothing |
| 00:03.23 | Juggie | as i found out too |
| 00:03.28 | lmadsen | yep |
| 00:03.37 | Juggie | however if you can loosen the dirt and then vacume it out |
| 00:03.45 | lmadsen | I used a bristle brush and cleaned on my hands and knees to scrub it |
| 00:03.46 | Juggie | well.. that would be golden and thats how they clean it |
| 00:03.51 | lmadsen | helped a bit with the dirt, but not the stains |
| 00:03.55 | Juggie | ya i tried that too and it did very little. |
| 00:04.04 | lmadsen | well let me know how the steam thing works out |
| 00:04.06 | Juggie | coudnt hurt to contact em for a quote. |
| 00:04.12 | Juggie | you can rent a steam cleaner yourself |
| 00:04.20 | Juggie | or buy one and bring it back from like canadian tire :) |
| 00:04.31 | Juggie | ya they are coming tomorow @ 3 |
| 00:04.45 | Juggie | my tiles arnt dirty though but i just dont want to seal them myself |
| 00:04.48 | Juggie | and seal the dirt in |
| 00:04.58 | Juggie | so i want them to be definitally clean and then sealed |
| 00:05.03 | Juggie | which is why i'm willing to pay |
| 00:05.08 | lmadsen | ya for sure |
| 00:05.14 | lmadsen | says two rooms for $99, which isn't bad |
| 00:05.20 | lmadsen | funny enough... I ahve.... 2 rooms! |
| 00:05.21 | Juggie | thats for carpet i think |
| 00:05.23 | lmadsen | kitchen and bathroom |
| 00:05.28 | lmadsen | ahhh... makes sense ;) |
| 00:05.45 | Juggie | but give em a call i guess |
| 00:05.50 | Juggie | that was just the first company i found |
| 00:05.57 | Juggie | they seem by their website reputable. |
| 00:05.59 | Juggie | theres probally more |
| 00:07.01 | Juggie | most people come by for a free estimate |
| 00:07.05 | Juggie | the guy came by for me saturday |
| 00:07.15 | Juggie | he said, 'these tiles are not going to get much cleaner' |
| 00:07.29 | Juggie | and i said ya i know but they were never sealed, so i want them cleaned and sealed so they dont get any worse. |
| 00:07.41 | lmadsen | gotcha |
| 00:07.50 | lmadsen | well we'll see what they say... maybe not much they can do |
| 00:08.11 | Juggie | ya, they are the experts |
| 00:08.17 | Juggie | the'll know what kind of tile it is, etc. |
| 00:09.58 | lmadsen | wow, I figured the leafs played tomorrow... w00t! |
| 00:10.05 | lmadsen | game tonight |
| 00:10.10 | lmadsen | in like 20 mins |
| 00:10.11 | Juggie | hah ya |
| 00:10.14 | Juggie | last game though until sat |
| 00:10.18 | lmadsen | ouch |
| 00:10.19 | Juggie | they have the week off |
| 00:10.20 | lmadsen | big break |
| 00:10.30 | lmadsen | they'll lose tonight |
| 00:11.09 | Juggie | neat |
| 00:11.14 | lmadsen | lol |
| 00:11.17 | Juggie | gilmore named head coach of kingston ohl team |
| 00:11.23 | lmadsen | oh ya, I read that a bit earlier |
| 00:11.44 | Juggie | ya, he'll make a good coach |
| 00:12.13 | lmadsen | ya I think so because he wasn't actually "that' good... unlike gretzky... I don't think players that are overly talented are very good coaches |
| 00:12.23 | lmadsen | they "got" everything too well, and never had to struggle through learning |
| 00:12.58 | lmadsen | well, I better go and make some dinner... back in a bit! |
| 00:13.02 | lmadsen | w00t HD :) |
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| 13:43.41 | jsmith | Morning all! |
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| 14:46.10 | lmadsen | ctooley: ping |
| 15:02.56 | ctooley | lmadsen, pon |
| 15:03.31 | jsmith | Morning ctooley... |
| 15:03.44 | ctooley | jsmith, morning |
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| 15:48.33 | Juggie | z |
| 15:57.16 | ctooley | I'm available via phone, but not via computer. 816-518-0432 |
| 15:57.42 | ctooley | doh! that wasn't supposed to leave the private IRC server. :( |
| 16:01.37 | Juggie | hah |
| 16:01.38 | Juggie | nice. |
| 16:21.07 | ctooley | I can't find the setting that limits RTP ports to a range. |
| 16:21.18 | jsmith-away | ctooley: rtp.conf |
| 16:21.55 | ctooley | thanks |
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| 17:18.10 | Juggie | i just gave away my catalyst poe switch from my office |
| 17:18.15 | Juggie | its so much quieter here now :) |
| 18:38.09 | lmadsen | w00t |
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| 18:58.22 | Alric | bearded?! |
| 18:58.33 | bearded_blitz | :) |
| 18:58.37 | bearded_blitz | kinda ya :) |
| 18:58.45 | Alric | I kinda feel that way today |
| 18:58.51 | Alric | Woke up too late :( |
| 18:58.57 | bearded_blitz | lol.. hilarious that you joined immediately after I changed my nick and noticed |
| 18:59.26 | jsmith | Alric: Hey, welcome back... it's about time you had breakfast :-p |
| 18:59.33 | Alric | I was looking for the European guy that had hot new info on the aic-9410 controller. |
| 19:00.09 | Alric | is ready to kill this damn thing if he can't get it working with a modern-day OS. |
| 19:02.50 | Alric | CentOS 5 loads up, loads adp94xx, and won't find any hard drives :( |
| 19:02.57 | Alric | the installer I mean. |
| 19:02.59 | jsmith | http://centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=12607&forum=39&post_id=45074#forumpost45074 |
| 19:03.05 | jsmith | Oh, you've got a driver working? |
| 19:03.20 | Alric | From that thread, CentOS 5.0 seems to work |
| 19:03.28 | Alric | the driver was removed/doesn't work in 5.1 or 5.2 |
| 19:03.32 | jsmith | You probably need to use the Adaptec utilities to actually raid the drives, etc. |
| 19:03.44 | Alric | I'm doing that and its verifying now. |
| 19:03.56 | Alric | I had raid turned off in the controller, CentOS 4.x wouldn't recognize anything any other way. |
| 19:04.15 | jsmith | Typically, if you have RAID turned off, then the disks show up as JBOD (just a bunch of disks) |
| 19:04.30 | jsmith | But if you have RAID turned on, you actually have to tell the controller how you want the RAID setup |
| 19:04.59 | Alric | The disks weren't showing up at all, and RAID was turned off. |
| 19:05.20 | jsmith | Interesting... maybe that controller makes you explicitly set them up as JBODs |
| 19:05.26 | jsmith | hates Adaptec |
| 19:05.38 | Alric | I thought Adaptec was fairly Linux-friendly. |
| 19:05.50 | jsmith | *was* being the key word |
| 19:07.15 | Alric | Fun :( |
| 19:16.10 | Alric | Wow verify takes forever. |
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| 20:08.03 | Juggie | i thought adaptec was pretty much supported in linux via open source drivers |
| 20:08.26 | jsmith | Only certain controllers are |
| 20:08.30 | Juggie | ic.. |
| 20:08.41 | Juggie | so even RHEL5 woudnt work w/ that controler? |
| 20:08.43 | Alric | Still verifying... |
| 20:09.05 | Alric | I've heard RHEL5 works, but I have no RHEL5 to test with. |
| 20:09.15 | Alric | Wouldn't CentOS 5 work if RHEL5 works? |
| 20:10.14 | Juggie | you would think |
| 20:13.29 | Juggie | perhaps adaptec isnt releasing source any more |
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| 20:24.27 | Juggie | looks like adaptec is only releasing binary |
| 20:37.56 | Juggie | http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/sas/linux/adp94xx-1_0_8-12_src_tgz.htm |
| 20:39.00 | Alric | hmmm |
| 20:39.01 | Alric | "Caution: Use these drivers if the RAID Support is disabled in the card's BIOS." |
| 20:40.37 | Alric | Lovely. |
| 20:44.33 | jsmith | Alric: Well, that's typically the point. The point of a RAID card is typically to abstract those layers away from the OS, so that it just appears to be one disk to the OS. |
| 20:45.07 | jsmith | Alric: Now, obviously it's not that simple, as the drivers need to be able to signal the OS and say "Hey, yo... you've lost a disk in your RAID 5 array" |
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| 20:45.33 | Alric | Well the OS doesn't see the disk if raid is enabled :( |
| 20:46.10 | jsmith | Alric: Return the server, buy yourself an HP DL360 (or 365), and thank me later. |
| 20:46.15 | Juggie | ya |
| 20:46.19 | Juggie | HP's are so kick ass |
| 20:46.25 | Juggie | we have like 25 of those running centos |
| 20:46.25 | Alric | Its probably out of warranty. |
| 20:46.56 | Juggie | jsmith, i have quad core, quad processor boxes now |
| 20:46.57 | jsmith | Juggie: I used to manage 4000 of them, with a team of 5. They're a dream. |
| 20:47.02 | Juggie | 16 cpu's, rarr :) |
| 20:47.08 | Juggie | ya i like them they rock |
| 20:47.20 | Alric | I thought you liked Supermicro! |
| 20:47.22 | Juggie | and i'm sure theres tons of stuff i dont even know about them, eg provisioning using ligsout |
| 20:47.25 | jsmith | I mean, we have 4000 of the DL380s. |
| 20:47.27 | Juggie | *lights out |
| 20:47.30 | jsmith | We had like 2000 of the DL360 |
| 20:47.39 | Juggie | they are super |
| 20:47.41 | jsmith | Alric: I hate SuperMicro with a perfect purple passion |
| 20:47.54 | jsmith | Alric: Other than that, they're great.... or something |
| 20:47.55 | Juggie | the ones we have now are raid5 w/ 2.5" drives. |
| 20:48.00 | Alric | Lovely. |
| 20:48.26 | Alric | I'd just like to get this server that I've had forever working, heh. |
| 20:49.55 | Juggie | then run centos5.0 :P |
| 20:49.59 | Alric | I am... |
| 20:49.59 | Juggie | and just forget about it |
| 20:50.02 | Alric | Its not working. |
| 20:50.06 | Juggie | i thought it worked w/ that |
| 20:50.11 | Alric | I thought so too. |
| 20:50.26 | Juggie | maybe because the drivers are like binary only they are dropped from centos? |
| 20:50.29 | Juggie | did you try rhel |
| 20:50.34 | Alric | I don't have rhel |
| 20:50.49 | Juggie | use your imagination |
| 20:51.47 | Juggie | https://www.redhat.com/rhel/details/eval/ |
| 20:52.24 | Juggie | you can also try, suse, mandrake, debian, ubuntu, etc :) |
| 20:52.29 | Juggie | or just get a real server :P |
| 20:52.32 | Alric | I bet I could get it working under CentOS 4, but 5 is just so much better. |
| 20:53.06 | Alric | Yeah, I'm just going to toss this $1.8k in the trash and spend another $2k on another server. :D |
| 20:53.55 | Alric | This thing is my albatross I guess. |
| 20:54.07 | Juggie | heh... its not a well supported card for linux it would seem |
| 20:54.15 | Alric | Yeah |
| 20:54.32 | Juggie | call supermicro |
| 20:54.44 | Juggie | even if they released a driver |
| 20:54.49 | Juggie | it wont work if you update your kernel |
| 20:54.50 | Juggie | etc |
| 20:55.06 | jsmith | Exactly... blame SuperMicro |
| 20:55.23 | jsmith | (some guy on the CentOS forums claimed they sent him an updated copy, but he couldn't attach it to the forum) |
| 20:55.27 | Juggie | like being able to run yum update w/o worry :) |
| 21:04.09 | Alric | how do you even get these drivers onto a system if you can't install anything to a system? |
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| 21:38.34 | Juggie | i suggest crying. |
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| 22:54.31 | Alric | Well I got it working. |
| 22:54.39 | Alric | With CentOS 4.4 :( |
| 22:54.50 | Alric | adp94xx works. aic94xx fails apparently. |
| 22:54.53 | jsmith | C'est la vie |
| 22:55.25 | Alric | But if I can strap PHP 5 onto this thing, it should suffice. |
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| 22:59.22 | Juggie | Alric, you need to enable the centos-extras repo |
| 22:59.27 | Juggie | or maybe centos-contrib |
| 22:59.31 | Juggie | php5 should be in one of those |
| 23:01.50 | Juggie | i think there is also a centosplus repo |
| 23:01.53 | Juggie | happy hunting :P |
| 23:01.56 | Alric | :D |
| 23:02.07 | Alric | I'll have fun, I'm sure... :D |
| 23:02.14 | Juggie | i know its there because i ran php5 on centos 4.x myself before |
| 23:05.35 | Alric | Yeah, I'm going to have to work on it. |
| 23:05.39 | Alric | Gotta run |
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