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| 14:36.33 | oej | lmadsen: Doing the dirty work, closing open issues... Thanks! |
| 14:36.41 | lmadsen | oej: that's my job :) |
| 14:36.55 | oej | I did not know |
| 14:37.02 | lmadsen | that is a very recent thing |
| 14:37.04 | oej | Thanks anyway |
| 14:37.16 | oej | For coping with the dirty work |
| 14:37.31 | lmadsen | yep, currently going through some of the oldest updated issues right now |
| 14:37.42 | lmadsen | seeing what I can close out, and what I can get moving forward again |
| 14:37.55 | oej | Cool. I'll try to pay a bit of attention. |
| 14:38.12 | oej | If you have a question, I'm almost always on jabber or IRC - at least in my time zone |
| 14:39.16 | lmadsen | coolio, I just commented on an issue re: outboundproxy that mnicholson opened and which you said a customer of yours also found the same issue (around July of this year) |
| 14:39.40 | lmadsen | was checking to see if you had solved that at your customers site (you probably got an email about it though) |
| 14:40.12 | oej | I'm getting a bit too many e-mail from the tracker everytime someone touches anything... |
| 14:40.34 | oej | But yes, another issue is that the functionality is broken in 1.6.0 because of the tcp/tls patches, so it's a big issue. |
| 14:40.36 | oej | Which bug id? |
| 14:41.16 | oej | I have a branch that I started working on for a customer this fall, but they kind of lost business and more or less disappeared |
| 14:41.24 | oej | But it's around somewhere. |
| 14:41.52 | oej | I tried to attack the outbound proxy issue and Ctooley's failover issue in one code base. |
| 14:41.58 | oej | A proxy is a proxy is a proxy is a proxy |
| 14:42.15 | oej | I wish I could get more funding for Asterisk work though... |
| 14:42.45 | oej | Oh, it was in e-mail right now. Bug 12006 |
| 14:42.55 | lmadsen | M12006 |
| 14:42.57 | MuffinMan | [feedback] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_sip/General 0012006: [patch] chan_sip fails to set contact, via, and sdp headers correctly with outboundproxy set reported by mnicholson (Karma: +72.75) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=12006 |
| 14:44.43 | lmadsen | oej: ya... unfortunately if you're not aware, the world is in recession :) |
| 14:45.11 | oej | That means that they need more cheap software and someone's gotta pay for it :-) |
| 14:45.20 | oej | Luckily, it hasn't hit me yet. |
| 14:46.04 | oej | Trying to remember where this hit me... I'm an old man. |
| 14:46.30 | oej | Anyway, outbound proxy better work in this project I'm working on, so I'll have to check it early next week. |
| 14:46.43 | lmadsen | and I'm getting there.... 28 in 1 month + 2 days |
| 14:47.51 | oej | Still so young so you count the days and hours... |
| 14:47.52 | oej | ;-) |
| 14:48.44 | lmadsen | lol |
| 14:49.12 | lmadsen | yep, so far so good in that respect, but I do suck at math, so I could be off a bit |
| 14:49.40 | oej | a bit, two bits, eight bits... |
| 14:58.37 | oej | Leif, please send e-mail to asterisk-dev, explaining to us all that you're now the bugmarshal-marshal so that we know that this is just not something temporary, but permanent and that we can contact you with questions, issues and suggestions about the bug process. |
| 15:01.33 | lmadsen | oej: ya, I think there was supposed to be an announcement at some point, but I think someone forgot :) |
| 15:02.07 | oej | Well, there hasn't been much of announcements of new developers or changes for a long time, so just forget that bad memory and do it. |
| 15:02.16 | lmadsen | ;) |
| 15:02.50 | oej | Take care of the small rest of our development community... |
| 15:03.23 | lmadsen | that's the goal :) |
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| 15:15.42 | oej | The goal has to be to expand the development community so that you have work protection. Issue more bugs, crazy code, feature requests, anything. |
| 15:16.00 | oej | Throw every thought in your head into the Asterisk bug tracker. Store your cdrs there. |
| 15:16.09 | oej | Keep lmadsen busy! |
| 15:16.27 | lmadsen | lol |
| 15:16.33 | lmadsen | pls don't put your CDRs there :) |
| 15:17.17 | lmadsen | oej: well, it's not my full time job, and there are more than 400 bugs... so far it looks like I'm safe :) |
| 15:17.52 | ctooley | oej, I'd definitely love to see the failover stuff go in. :) There's no way to do it in Realtime currently either, and that's something I'd also truly like to have. |
| 15:18.20 | oej | Realtime sucks. |
| 15:18.46 | ctooley | oej, There are some cases where it's far better than configuration file.s |
| 15:18.50 | oej | We need a realtime-ng in chan_sip. Too many fixes and patches and stuff |
| 15:18.54 | oej | oh yes, I agree with that. |
| 15:18.55 | ctooley | It's certainly not ideal, that's for sure. |
| 15:19.06 | oej | We need realtime. The current implementation sucks. |
| 15:19.12 | oej | just fighting it. |
| 15:19.25 | oej | Hmm. Outbound proxys in realtime. |
| 15:19.28 | oej | Interesting. |
| 15:19.35 | ctooley | but, I have 150+ installations of asterisk and I'm sick of rsync'ing sip.conf files all over the place |
| 15:19.56 | ctooley | There's no way to not end up with something be screwed up at some point. |
| 15:20.12 | oej | I know. It's a pain |
| 15:20.16 | oej | I use svn pull... |
| 15:20.19 | lmadsen | failover stuff? |
| 15:20.31 | lmadsen | also uses svn to sync sip.conf files |
| 15:20.44 | oej | yes, there's a branch I made for ctooley that has a failover mechanism. |
| 15:20.54 | ctooley | I'm just now getting to the point where I have a reasonably manageable situation and it's going to include using realtime. |
| 15:20.55 | oej | If one peer fails, we automatically switch over to another one. |
| 15:20.59 | oej | Mid-call |
| 15:22.09 | ctooley | lmadsen, Some proxies maintain call state between two different boxes in an Active-Standby failover mechanism. Unfortunately SRV records require a DNS timeout, these don't do IP based failover (where one IP shifts between the active and standby), and we needed some way to support the redundancy. |
| 15:22.28 | lmadsen | oej: wow, hawt :) |
| 15:22.31 | ctooley | So, we hired oej to add code to chan_sip that handles it. It's been very helpful for us. |
| 15:22.49 | oej | Yes, it's cool. |
| 15:23.27 | ctooley | Unfortunately our accounting department is so utterly useless, it took us months to pay oej for the work through no fault of his or mine. |
| 15:24.24 | lmadsen | kicks the accounting department as many places he has worked for |
| 15:24.26 | ctooley | But, the failover code has saved millions of calls from being dropped in our network due to active-standby flips. |
| 15:25.43 | lmadsen | if/when it goes in, the documentation needs to be very clear as to what scenarios it works in, or we'll have a million bugs open saying, "chan_sip doesn't failover between providers!" |
| 15:26.55 | oej | ha ha |
| 15:26.59 | oej | Yep. Exactly. |
| 15:27.02 | lmadsen | don't laugh :) |
| 15:27.12 | oej | And you will get ALL those bug reports to handle!!!!! |
| 15:27.14 | oej | Be HAPPY! |
| 15:27.25 | oej | considers removing some documentation |
| 15:27.31 | lmadsen | it makes me happy to close bugs :) |
| 15:27.39 | oej | Now that we have a bug marshal, we don't need docs any more... |
| 15:27.54 | lmadsen | kicks oej in the shins |
| 15:28.07 | oej | ouch! |
| 16:55.52 | Juggie | i didnt see it, saw the score :( |
| 16:57.58 | lmadsen | Juggie: I saw the 2nd and 3rd periods.... 3rd period melt down :( |
| 16:58.07 | lmadsen | rather, I saw the 2nd last night, and the 3rd this morning |
| 16:58.12 | Juggie | ah i didnt see any |
| 16:58.27 | lmadsen | ya... it was bad |
| 16:58.27 | Juggie | forgot about the game actually |
| 16:58.33 | Juggie | was at a concert last night |
| 16:58.45 | lmadsen | you could tell they were exhausted... just has zero jump.. I think they had less than 20 shots on net |
| 16:58.51 | lmadsen | Juggie: no problem, you didn't miss much |
| 17:06.16 | Juggie | cliff fletcher threw a big bash last night in phoenix |
| 17:06.36 | lmadsen | heh |
| 17:07.31 | Juggie | did you see avery got 6 games and has to seek profesional anger management? :P |
| 17:07.53 | lmadsen | sweet! I didn't know he got 6 games |
| 17:07.58 | Juggie | i'm not sure its so much anger management as he just has no common sense as to what is appropropriate and what is not :) |
| 17:08.05 | lmadsen | agreed |
| 17:08.19 | Juggie | if he had anger issues he'd be physical |
| 17:08.21 | Juggie | but he's not |
| 17:08.23 | Juggie | he just runs his mouth |
| 17:08.27 | lmadsen | he's just a brat |
| 17:08.29 | lmadsen | with no filter |
| 17:08.57 | Juggie | before he was on dallas |
| 17:09.04 | Juggie | i had no idea the stars existed |
| 17:09.08 | Juggie | like no news etc about them |
| 17:09.40 | Juggie | and i think they like it that way |
| 17:09.58 | lmadsen | yep for sure |
| 17:10.10 | lmadsen | they prefer to be a very professional organization, and this year has been a bit of an embarressment |
| 17:10.48 | Juggie | ya i dont think the rest of the players are going to be willing to play with him |
| 17:11.02 | Juggie | he may get one more chance to prove himself just because they have nothing to do with him |
| 17:11.19 | lmadsen | yep... I'll be shocked if he plays again |
| 17:11.21 | Juggie | the ahl doesnt want him, no one is going to pick him off waivers |
| 17:11.26 | Juggie | he'll play |
| 17:11.51 | Juggie | his suspension will be over in 6 games, dallas i think might seat him for a little while... he'll do some therapy... etc. |
| 17:12.07 | lmadsen | yep... and he likes being the centre of attention, so the KHL makes no sense for him |
| 17:12.11 | Juggie | hes already served 2 games |
| 17:12.15 | Juggie | what he said wasnt that bad |
| 17:12.26 | Juggie | its just not appropriate for a professional athelete |
| 17:12.42 | lmadsen | agreed, not in public anyways |
| 17:12.42 | Juggie | within the media |
| 17:12.44 | lmadsen | on the ice maybe |
| 17:12.54 | Juggie | ya, like say that phoneuf on the ice |
| 17:12.56 | Juggie | thats fine |
| 17:12.58 | Juggie | it will piss him off |
| 17:13.07 | Juggie | its doing it in front of the media and asking for the media |
| 17:13.10 | Juggie | that got him in shit |
| 17:13.24 | lmadsen | oh god this voip-users-conference never ceases to amaze me |
| 17:13.33 | Juggie | 'so phoneuf, how you enjoying my sloppy seconds' |
| 17:13.33 | lmadsen | yep |
| 17:13.33 | Juggie | etc |
| 17:13.35 | Juggie | no issue |
| 17:13.50 | Juggie | voip users conference? |
| 17:13.58 | lmadsen | #voip-users-conference |
| 17:14.09 | Juggie | never heard of it before |
| 17:33.19 | lmadsen | ya, you're not missing much |
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