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| 04:03.55 | Juggie | has anyone setup gmail as a sendmail relay? |
| 04:08.33 | Khratos | ... going to sleep |
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| 04:17.52 | lmadsen | Juggie: I have not, but would like ot |
| 04:18.15 | lmadsen | then I could actually send emails from my server here at home |
| 04:18.38 | lmadsen | and with that, I go to bed |
| 04:37.26 | Juggie | ahh got it |
| 04:37.49 | Juggie | woot |
| 04:37.50 | Juggie | Jan 27 23:20:26 donny-centos sendmail[6468]: n0S4KLTI006466: to=<donnyk@gmail.com>, ctladdr=<root@donny-centos.home.donnyk.ca> (0/0), delay=00:00:05, xdelay=00:00:05, mailer=esmtp, pri=120513, relay=smtp.gmail.com [64.233.183.111], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1233116428 k5sm31418107nfh.12) |
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| 13:02.20 | lmadsen | Juggie: how did you do that? |
| 13:02.51 | lmadsen | Juggie: I was just trying to figure that out the other day, and I was still getting ctladdr as root@localhost.localdomain |
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| 14:30.01 | Khratos | Like how many people would be subscribed on asterisk-doc mailing list? |
| 14:30.12 | Juggie | lmadsen, using smart_host |
| 14:30.14 | Juggie | and some voodoo |
| 14:31.31 | jsmith | Khratos: I can probably find out... |
| 14:32.48 | Khratos | I'm interested in contributing to the asteriskdocs.org in order to have a centralized source of documentation for asterisk |
| 14:34.18 | Khratos | The same information on the main site could be used to edit and improve the ATFOT book |
| 14:36.39 | lmadsen | Juggie: could you give me an example of what you changed? I need to do it here at home, and for someone else |
| 14:37.07 | lmadsen | Khratos: I have to go now, but you're on the same page as what I've been working towards too |
| 14:37.38 | lmadsen | we'll talk this afternoon |
| 14:37.44 | Khratos | lmadsen, I'll be around here all day, we can speak this afternoon |
| 15:58.32 | Juggie | lmadsen, its not too complicated, all the docs i found online were only partial, so i had to piece it together myseldf |
| 15:58.37 | Juggie | what distro are you running |
| 16:02.30 | lmadsen | Juggie: centos |
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| 16:17.10 | Juggie | lmadsen, want the steps? |
| 16:17.14 | lmadsen | yes pls! |
| 16:17.18 | Juggie | k, umm |
| 16:17.31 | lmadsen | likes to have conversations in multiple windows |
| 16:17.42 | Juggie | #1, go to /etc/pki/tls/certs/ |
| 16:17.48 | Juggie | and do 'make sendmail.pem' |
| 16:20.13 | Juggie | #2, |
| 16:20.39 | Juggie | open sendmail.mc (/etc/mail) remove the existing smart_host define and replace w/ |
| 16:20.39 | Juggie | FEATURE(`authinfo',`hash /etc/mail/auth/client-info')dnl |
| 16:20.39 | Juggie | define(`SMART_HOST', `esmtp:smtp.gmail.com')dnl |
| 16:21.32 | Juggie | around line 55-60ish there should be two lines TRUST_AUTH_MECH & define('confAUTH_MECHANISMS' .... |
| 16:21.41 | Juggie | they are both commented out w/ dnl, so uncomment them. |
| 16:22.28 | Juggie | a few lines down, you should see the 4 defines for certs. |
| 16:22.35 | Juggie | uncomment those 4. |
| 16:23.00 | Juggie | save, exit, then in /etc/mail run make. |
| 16:23.45 | Juggie | #3, in /etc/mail, mkdir auth |
| 16:24.03 | Juggie | inside auth, create a file called 'client-info' |
| 16:27.51 | Juggie | following so far? |
| 16:28.01 | Juggie | in client-info put: |
| 16:28.01 | Juggie | AuthInfo:smtp.gmail.com "U:donnyk@gmail.com" "I:donnyk@gmail.com" "P:1234" |
| 16:28.01 | Juggie | AuthInfo:smtp.gmail.com:587 "U:donnyk@gmail.com" "I:donnyk@gmail.com" "P:1234" |
| 16:28.13 | Juggie | obviously subsitute your real creds. |
| 16:28.21 | Juggie | and no, 1234 is not my password :) |
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| 16:31.31 | lmadsen | I don't believe you :) |
| 16:31.39 | lmadsen | goes off to try and start following this |
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| 16:39.18 | lmadsen | Juggie: followed, and implemented. Now what? Test? |
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| 16:49.15 | Juggie | nope, not yet |
| 16:49.31 | Juggie | in /etc/mail/auth |
| 16:49.33 | Juggie | do, ' makemap -r hash client-info.db < client-info |
| 16:50.07 | Juggie | it may fail w/ permission denied, if it does we'll fix the permissions. |
| 16:51.37 | lmadsen | it did not complain |
| 16:51.42 | Juggie | ok |
| 16:51.50 | Juggie | sendmail might still |
| 16:51.56 | Juggie | ok so 'service sendmail restart' |
| 16:52.04 | lmadsen | done |
| 16:52.05 | Juggie | then tail -f /var/log/maillog |
| 16:52.09 | Juggie | and try and send something |
| 16:52.44 | lmadsen | ummm... never sent an email from the console. Little help? :) |
| 16:53.16 | Juggie | i tried using sendmail directally to send but it woudnt work right. |
| 16:53.34 | Juggie | probally the wrong email headers |
| 16:53.41 | Juggie | the email would be sent, just never received |
| 16:53.42 | Khratos | echo "Helloooooo" | mail -s "Test" |
| 16:53.48 | Khratos | sorry |
| 16:53.54 | Khratos | echo "Helloooooo" | mail -s "Test" me@slackware-es.com |
| 16:55.18 | Juggie | ah nice, that worked |
| 16:55.35 | lmadsen | says Message accepted for delivery. Waiting to see if the email pops up here shortly... |
| 16:56.08 | lmadsen | although my from=<root@freud.leifmadsen.internal> so I might need to rename my hostname |
| 16:56.12 | Juggie | lmadsen, it will get accepted twice |
| 16:56.20 | Juggie | once by your local sendmail and again by gmail |
| 16:56.27 | lmadsen | aha... there is the failure there |
| 16:56.37 | lmadsen | Deferred: Connection timed out with smtp.gmail.com |
| 16:56.51 | Juggie | what version of centos? |
| 16:56.56 | lmadsen | 5.2 |
| 16:57.36 | Juggie | did you just edit the smart_host line that was in sendmail.mc |
| 16:57.38 | Juggie | or paste in mine |
| 16:57.38 | lmadsen | let me try changing my credentials... I have it set to leif@leifmadsen.com, because I have my email hosted with google, but it might still have failed.... |
| 16:57.45 | lmadsen | I pasted yours |
| 16:57.55 | Juggie | sendmail-8.13.8-2.el5 |
| 16:57.59 | Juggie | what version is your sendmail |
| 16:58.04 | Juggie | there was an old bug that got fixed |
| 16:58.27 | lmadsen | same as yours |
| 16:59.13 | Juggie | try a telnet 'smtp.google.com 587' |
| 16:59.24 | Juggie | er, w/o the quotes. |
| 16:59.55 | lmadsen | got there |
| 17:02.55 | Juggie | hmmmm |
| 17:03.13 | lmadsen | I wonder if my hostname needs to be valid |
| 17:03.18 | Juggie | mine isnt |
| 17:03.24 | Juggie | can you paste the exact error? |
| 17:03.35 | lmadsen | Jan 28 07:47:38 freud sendmail[13761]: n0SCjbxO013759: to=<leif.madsen@gmail.com>, ctladdr=<root@freud.leifmadsen.internal> (0/0), delay=00:02:01, xdelay=00:02:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=120366, relay=smtp.gmail.com [64.233.183.109], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection timed out with smtp.gmail.com |
| 17:03.42 | lmadsen | and prior to that, I get: |
| 17:03.48 | lmadsen | Jan 28 07:45:38 freud sendmail[13756]: n0SCjbCR013756: to=leif.madsen@gmail.com, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30053, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (n0SCjbxO013759 Message accepted for delivery) |
| 17:04.24 | Khratos | probably if your freud.leifmadsen.internal does not resolves to the IP assigned to you right now, it will fail |
| 17:04.25 | lmadsen | Juggie: oh wait... maybe it did fail on the permissions for the cert |
| 17:05.08 | lmadsen | Jan 28 07:53:37 freud sendmail[13792]: n0SCrb5D013792: from=root, size=53, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200901281253.n0SCrb5D013792@freud.leifmadsen.internal>, relay=root@localhost |
| 17:05.08 | lmadsen | Jan 28 07:53:37 freud sendmail[13795]: STARTTLS=server, relay=freud [127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=NO, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 |
| 17:05.08 | lmadsen | Jan 28 07:53:37 freud sendmail[13792]: STARTTLS=client, relay=[127.0.0.1], version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 |
| 17:05.26 | Juggie | ah |
| 17:05.29 | Juggie | well there you go :P |
| 17:05.49 | lmadsen | hmmm... now what? :) |
| 17:06.15 | lmadsen | oh maybe I should have better looked at what those 4 lines were pointing to and see if they exist |
| 17:06.34 | Juggie | they should |
| 17:06.41 | Juggie | did you do the make sendmail.pem |
| 17:07.02 | lmadsen | yep, it exists |
| 17:07.26 | lmadsen | -rw------- 1 root root 2194 Jan 28 07:24 sendmail.pem |
| 17:08.32 | Juggie | http://pastebin.ca/1320781 |
| 17:08.35 | Juggie | thast what i see when it works |
| 17:08.41 | Juggie | so where does yours start to differ |
| 17:09.13 | Juggie | its not complaining about being able to read the client-info file or anything? |
| 17:09.33 | lmadsen | let me reply to the pastebin :) |
| 17:10.54 | lmadsen | http://pastebin.ca/1320785 |
| 17:11.15 | lmadsen | I think I'm going to update the hostname to something resolveable |
| 17:12.34 | Juggie | k |
| 17:13.51 | Juggie | did you try w/ a real gmail account? |
| 17:14.10 | lmadsen | ya, I switched it to my leif.madsen@gmail.com account in the client-auth |
| 17:14.11 | Juggie | or do you even have pop enabled within your account? |
| 17:14.15 | lmadsen | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 17:14.25 | lmadsen | maybe I need to enable something. You could be right. |
| 17:14.34 | Juggie | i know pop wont work unless its enabled |
| 17:14.38 | Juggie | maybe smtp is tied to that |
| 17:15.01 | Juggie | it does look like a simple permissions failure |
| 17:15.44 | lmadsen | hmmmm ya. POP was enabled for this account. |
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| 17:15.58 | lmadsen | does the cert need to match the email address I'm sending with? |
| 17:16.06 | Juggie | no |
| 17:16.25 | lmadsen | ok |
| 17:16.55 | lmadsen | hmmmmm, wonder why this is failing then |
| 17:17.50 | Juggie | did you miss a step |
| 17:17.59 | Juggie | define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN') |
| 17:17.59 | Juggie | TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN') |
| 17:19.19 | lmadsen | let me double check that, but I don't think so... |
| 17:20.02 | lmadsen | TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl |
| 17:20.02 | lmadsen | define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl |
| 17:20.23 | lmadsen | and |
| 17:20.23 | lmadsen | FEATURE(`authinfo',`hash /etc/mail/auth/client-info')dnl |
| 17:20.23 | lmadsen | define(`SMART_HOST', `esmtp:smtp.gmail.com')dnl |
| 17:20.42 | Juggie | its still saying connection timed out though |
| 17:20.43 | Juggie | w/ google |
| 17:20.54 | lmadsen | ya |
| 17:21.23 | Juggie | ummm |
| 17:21.26 | Juggie | maybe its my fault :) |
| 17:21.27 | Juggie | add |
| 17:21.27 | Juggie | define(`RELAY_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 587') |
| 17:21.27 | Juggie | define(`ESMTP_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 587') |
| 17:21.34 | Juggie | under your smart_host |
| 17:21.39 | Juggie | make in /etc/mail |
| 17:21.42 | Juggie | restart and give it a whirl |
| 17:21.42 | lmadsen | oh ya, maybe wrong port |
| 17:21.46 | Juggie | it think that will fix it |
| 17:21.53 | Juggie | i thought those lines were commented out in my config |
| 17:21.57 | Juggie | but they are not |
| 17:22.08 | Juggie | its a bug that sendmail ignores the esmtp: and still tries port 25 |
| 17:22.34 | Juggie | probally fixed in ubutu and fedora core on newer sendmails |
| 17:22.34 | lmadsen | there we go! |
| 17:22.37 | Juggie | but not on centos/rhel |
| 17:22.40 | lmadsen | I see the Sent OK now |
| 17:22.42 | Juggie | sorry my bad :) |
| 17:22.45 | lmadsen | on both previous emails |
| 17:22.52 | lmadsen | np! I'm just happy to have it work now :) |
| 17:22.55 | lmadsen | lets see if I got email |
| 17:23.00 | lmadsen | I did! |
| 17:23.01 | lmadsen | w00t |
| 17:23.04 | lmadsen | that's hawt |
| 17:23.10 | Juggie | check your inbox |
| 17:23.30 | lmadsen | now to see if I can send from my leif@leifmadsen.com account |
| 17:23.50 | lmadsen | gonna change the hostname first |
| 17:24.52 | lmadsen | yep, that's cool still |
| 17:25.57 | Juggie | if you want to use leifmadsen.com i think you can try the masquerade optiona |
| 17:26.05 | Juggie | and tell sendmail to think its leifmadsen.com |
| 17:26.32 | Juggie | gmail seems to mod the from: to be whatever smtp account your logging into though. |
| 17:26.40 | lmadsen | that is so hot :) |
| 17:27.02 | Juggie | so like my test emails are from 'root' donnyk@gmail.com |
| 17:27.06 | Juggie | so i think gmail rewrites it |
| 17:27.07 | lmadsen | now I just get to tweak things so they don't look like they are coming from root :) |
| 17:27.09 | lmadsen | ya :) |
| 17:27.16 | lmadsen | the root I think I can change in the sendmail.mc |
| 17:27.19 | Juggie | well a proper email client could fix that |
| 17:27.27 | lmadsen | EXPOSED_USER |
| 17:27.32 | jsmith | lmadsen: So why didn't you just use ssmtpd like I told you to! |
| 17:27.58 | lmadsen | jsmith: because juggie already had a solution, and I needed to test this for another client |
| 17:28.06 | lmadsen | who is using sendmail |
| 17:28.08 | jsmith | lmadsen: Fair enough |
| 17:28.15 | lmadsen | easier to test on my system than theres |
| 17:28.17 | Juggie | and sendmail is installed by default |
| 17:28.18 | lmadsen | theirs |
| 17:28.33 | Juggie | and its really not that complicated once you've done it, its just slightly convoluted. |
| 17:29.24 | lmadsen | ya... steps were easy enough |
| 17:29.35 | Juggie | ya just hairy |
| 17:29.47 | Juggie | i'm not sure if google lets you use any from: address you want |
| 17:29.50 | lmadsen | probably harder for you to figure out :) |
| 17:29.50 | Juggie | or just ones you own |
| 17:30.07 | Juggie | i only started trying yesterday but it took a couple of attempts. |
| 17:30.09 | lmadsen | Juggie: well I have my domain leifmadsen.com hosted by google, so I'm in control of whatever addresses I want :) |
| 17:30.23 | lmadsen | so I can create a webmaster@leifmadsen.com etc... |
| 17:30.27 | Juggie | no i mean i dont know if the smtp would accept email from anywhere |
| 17:30.34 | Juggie | eg, you could just say from: bill@microsoft.com |
| 17:30.37 | Juggie | on some servers |
| 17:30.40 | Juggie | and they would just relay it |
| 17:30.44 | lmadsen | gotcha |
| 17:31.03 | lmadsen | hmmm... still need to figure out how to modify this ctladdr portion I guess, heh |
| 17:31.05 | Juggie | i dont know if gmail will relay blindly, or force you to your email accounts. |
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| 17:33.50 | lmadsen | needs to do something about lunch |
| 17:34.40 | lmadsen | Juggie: if i didn't say it, thanks! |
| 17:36.23 | Juggie | lmadsen, np |
| 17:37.49 | lmadsen | now my wordpress blog will be allowed to send emails :) |
| 17:37.58 | lmadsen | but now, I shower, then head to subway for some lunch |
| 17:38.49 | Juggie | lmadsen, chicken w/ lettuce, onions, green peppers, hot peppers, south west sauce, and salt/pepper is clearly the way to go |
| 17:38.58 | Juggie | on cheddar bread. |
| 17:39.24 | lmadsen | no lettuce on chicken or meatball subs |
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| 17:40.11 | lmadsen | but usually I just get veggie on wholewheat with all veggies except jalepenos and olives with subsauce and lite mayo |
| 17:52.21 | Juggie | jalepenos are the best part! |
| 17:59.52 | lmadsen | heh |
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| 19:03.17 | lmadsen | jsmith: !!! |
| 19:03.20 | lmadsen | we missed you |
| 19:03.23 | lmadsen | misses you |
| 19:03.27 | lmadsen | missed* |
| 19:03.29 | jsmith | lmadsen: You did? |
| 19:03.33 | lmadsen | of course! |
| 19:03.41 | jsmith | calls lmadsen's bluff |
| 19:03.43 | lmadsen | actually, I didn't even know you were gone |
| 19:03.47 | lmadsen | :) |
| 19:03.55 | lmadsen | how was lunch? |
| 19:04.23 | jsmith | Meh... not enough food, and not enough distraction from work |
| 19:04.38 | jsmith | (I secretly just sat here, ate a sandwich, and plowed through email) |
| 19:04.42 | lmadsen | fair enough |
| 19:05.00 | lmadsen | I suppose you won't have time to get that site up today will you? |
| 19:05.55 | jsmith | Sure I will... should only take like 5 minutes (plus an hour for DNS propagation) |
| 19:06.11 | lmadsen | lol |
| 19:06.13 | lmadsen | cool :) |
| 19:19.37 | ctooley | boom, database server go away, calls no working, hooray Wednesdays |
| 19:20.57 | lmadsen | anyone know how to determine if a digium card has an echo canceler board on it? (from the linux console) |
| 19:22.01 | ctooley | call yourself and say "echo echo echo", see if you hear yourself. :) |
| 19:22.31 | ctooley | I don't know if there's a way to determine it from the card information. |
| 19:22.57 | lmadsen | dmesg | grep VPM |
| 19:23.27 | ctooley | what kind of card has that? |
| 19:24.21 | lmadsen | tdm2400p |
| 19:24.29 | lmadsen | the VPM I assume is the echo canceler board though |
| 19:25.06 | ctooley | my TE210P must not have one then. |
| 19:25.42 | ctooley | zaptel Disabled echo canceller because of tone (rx) on channel 1 |
| 19:27.18 | lmadsen | I was wrong... it's a TE210P I believe |
| 19:27.24 | lmadsen | at least it is using the wct2xxp module |
| 19:27.31 | lmadsen | I had remembered what was in this machine wrong :) |
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| 19:40.50 | Juggie | lmadsen, getting much snow in to? |
| 19:41.08 | lmadsen | ya, quite a bit |
| 19:42.27 | jsmith | ctooley: Database go boom, eh? |
| 19:42.48 | ctooley | yesh, it's not fun with database go boom |
| 19:44.35 | Juggie | hot backup? |
| 19:44.50 | jsmith | ctooley: MySQL? PostgreSQL? |
| 19:46.18 | ctooley | Yeah, we have 2 hot backups and real backups. |
| 19:46.23 | Juggie | lmadsen, gonna try to impress the GF on valentines? |
| 19:46.27 | lmadsen | nah :) |
| 19:46.32 | Juggie | you cant mess this one up, its the only one she'll remember! |
| 19:46.41 | lmadsen | because she'll break up with me after? :) |
| 19:46.56 | Juggie | hahaha nah, but the first one counts the most |
| 19:47.24 | lmadsen | ;) |
| 19:47.55 | Juggie | loblaws has these fake scratch cards |
| 19:48.00 | Juggie | lovers lotto or something haha |
| 19:48.05 | Juggie | every card is a winner :P |
| 19:48.10 | ctooley | MySQL, though the database wasn't at fault, they didn't replace the drives and when the next one failed the array went with it. |
| 19:48.30 | Juggie | ctooley, running a faulted array, hot. |
| 19:48.43 | ctooley | yeah, isn't it awesome |
| 19:48.50 | Juggie | kick your admins |
| 19:49.02 | Juggie | i take random walks around the lab here |
| 19:49.07 | Juggie | and yell at people if everything isnt all green |
| 19:49.42 | Juggie | i'm not a network/it infrstracture admin so i dont see all that stuff usually, but they are lazy sometimes so i do spot checks. |
| 19:49.43 | ctooley | They're all several states away, kicking is challenging. But, I'm working on a new robot for just that task. |
| 19:50.13 | Juggie | do they monitor? or do you? |
| 19:50.26 | Juggie | (hardware status) |
| 19:50.34 | ctooley | I don't have the ability to see the drive faults. I monitor the rest of it. |
| 19:50.42 | Juggie | really, shitty. |
| 19:50.47 | Juggie | whats the hardware? |
| 19:51.17 | ctooley | shit happens, we've got backups. They've got a crapload of work to do, sometimes shit just happens. |
| 19:51.25 | Juggie | i wish i knew everything the HP servers we run |
| 19:51.32 | ctooley | DL380s with MSA drive arrays |
| 19:51.32 | Juggie | i'm sure jsmith could fill me in for hours |
| 19:52.10 | Juggie | infact i'd just like to push out a drive image w/ lights out! :P |
| 19:52.28 | ctooley | Juggie, that's what we do. |
| 19:52.38 | jsmith | ctooley: DL380?!? If so, *make sure* all your drives (not array controllers, but drives themselves) have the latest drive firmware installed |
| 19:53.12 | ctooley | jsmith, yeah, I know, we have been pushing out the firmware. |
| 19:53.14 | jsmith | ctooley: There's a bad firmware on some the of the DL380 drives that will keep the array from rebuilding from a degraded array, and you'll have a second disk fail before the array rebuilds. |
| 19:53.25 | Juggie | are the 380's 4u or 2u? |
| 19:53.32 | lmadsen | 2u I think |
| 19:53.34 | ctooley | I don't remember, I think 2u |
| 19:53.39 | Juggie | i wonder what we have. |
| 19:53.42 | jsmith | ctooley: Essentially, the firmware on the drives keeps throttling down the speed on the array controller :-( |
| 19:53.43 | lmadsen | we used some at moen |
| 19:53.45 | jsmith | Juggie: 2U |
| 19:53.51 | ctooley | jsmith, yeah |
| 19:53.55 | Juggie | we have HPDL3xx |
| 19:53.57 | Juggie | not sure what |
| 19:54.01 | Juggie | a mix of systems |
| 19:54.25 | Juggie | most are 2u some are 1u |
| 19:54.28 | ctooley | Juggie, We have a LOT of different things. I've got roughly 100 DL-140's |
| 19:54.33 | Juggie | nice |
| 19:54.45 | Juggie | we've probally got about 250 servers in the lab. |
| 19:54.48 | Juggie | we are acutally out of power |
| 19:54.51 | Juggie | which is fun! |
| 19:55.05 | Juggie | they are in the middle of re-designing the lab |
| 19:55.23 | lmadsen | flipped a breaker a couple weeks ago by running a steamer :) |
| 19:55.29 | lmadsen | had too many things on |
| 19:56.02 | jsmith | Juggie: 360 is 1U, 380 is 2U |
| 19:56.40 | Juggie | jsmith, they are both |
| 19:56.46 | Juggie | i think! |
| 19:57.06 | Juggie | maybe not |
| 19:57.06 | jsmith | Juggie: They are both *what*? |
| 19:57.22 | lmadsen | jimminy cricket |
| 19:57.34 | Juggie | jsmith, i thought for a second there i had a quad core, 4 drive 2u 360 |
| 19:57.38 | Juggie | but its 1u i guess |
| 19:57.46 | Juggie | er, quad, quad core. |
| 19:57.55 | lmadsen | tasty |
| 19:57.59 | lmadsen | that's a spicy meatball |
| 19:58.22 | Juggie | ya, those are our latest boxes, HPDL360G5's |
| 19:58.53 | Juggie | jsmith, your right, i just had a feeling i'd seen 2u |
| 19:58.59 | Juggie | but must of been some of our older boxes |
| 19:59.27 | jsmith | Juggie: Those G5s are rockin' boxes... they sound like rocket ships, but they sure to pack a punch |
| 19:59.52 | Juggie | ya they kick ass |
| 20:00.06 | lmadsen | and rocket ships are cool too! |
| 20:00.08 | Juggie | jsmith, DS3 install #2 completed yesterday btw. |
| 20:00.15 | Juggie | so we are now up to 2 DS3's w/ asterisk :) |
| 20:01.53 | Juggie | 665 + 665 channels. |
| 20:02.13 | Juggie | its pretty sexy |
| 20:02.43 | Juggie | allstream actually had to install extra capacity for us haha |
| 20:03.10 | Juggie | they didnt have enough interconnectivity w/ bell |
| 20:03.35 | Juggie | so we coudnt fill 655 channels before we got capped |
| 20:05.51 | Juggie | we didnt actually fill their link, just their network managment code blocked us at a certain % of use of their capacity so we coudnt saturate out their other customers. |
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| 20:12.19 | ctooley | I'm not sure what our exact server count is. My group of products run some 300 Asterisk installations on 120-150 servers (keeping track in my head is impossible now). There's a whole mess of other products, services, and infrastructure of which my part is just a small chunk. |
| 20:12.33 | ctooley | We have 11 sites in the US, all with equipment in them. |
| 20:13.05 | ctooley | It's easier for a company that's in the business of filling up DS3's to have a bunch of full ones though. :) |
| 20:14.43 | Juggie | ya, different business, we host all our own services. |
| 20:14.47 | Juggie | once tax season hits |
| 20:15.03 | Juggie | we'll peak at almost 3 million calls a day |
| 20:15.21 | Juggie | or call attempts rather. |
| 20:19.59 | ctooley | Yeah, that's not as big for us as major holidays on the platform I manage. But, an "average" day for us is roughly 1M call attempts. All of our traffic is SIP from our switch though. |
| 20:24.16 | Juggie | ya |
| 20:24.20 | Juggie | we dont have that liberty |
| 20:28.38 | ctooley | :) You could if you got private circuits and ran SIP over those. However, if unless you ran 729 you're going to get fewer calls over the same bandwidth. |
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| 21:59.28 | ctooley | jsmith-meeting, ping me when you're done with your meeting, no rush. |
| 22:00.06 | jsmith | ctooley: Perfect timing! |
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| 22:59.49 | Khratos | ~ , sweet ~ |
| 23:41.56 | Khratos | r u there lmadsen? |
| 23:42.09 | lmadsen | Khratos: aye |
| 23:42.31 | Khratos | oh :), are you working on asteriskdocs.org website? |
| 23:44.32 | lmadsen | ummm right now? no :) will I be? yes :) |
| 23:47.13 | Khratos | Do you already have the Idea about what it will be? (forum, another wiki, etc.) ? |
| 23:48.32 | lmadsen | ummmm... yes, I do have a pretty good idea what it'll be. There will be no forum or wiki (we have those available to the world already). I want to make it an article based site mostly. |
| 23:50.50 | Khratos | Something like a blog? or a 'community articles' site? |
| 23:52.21 | lmadsen | blog / community articles site |
| 23:52.45 | lmadsen | a couple of us will be in charge of writing something every week, and being the primary editors. Others could submit articles if they wish. |
| 23:53.21 | Khratos | Great, That info can be used to update topics on the book that might seem not so clear |
| 23:53.54 | lmadsen | right. What I plan on doing is using the book as the "base" and building off of that. |
| 23:54.47 | lmadsen | Things like the appendices and such would ideally become more dynamic. I want more things to come from the source code and be imported into the website. When it changes in the source, it changes in the site, and further to that, updates the appendices, which The Book would use. |
| 23:54.48 | Khratos | Yes, the topics on the book Index can be considered as categories |
| 23:55.18 | Khratos | As it would cover almost anything one could ask |
| 23:55.22 | lmadsen | so there would be a continual cycle between AsteriskDocs.org (think of it as a 'beta' of the book), and then that data feeds back into the book. |
| 23:55.46 | lmadsen | it may even be broken out into separate books such as Intro to Asterisk, and Advanced Asterisk |
| 23:56.26 | Khratos | Yes, I thought about that, soon the info could get so big that even if we compact it, we would still have an encyclopedia |
| 23:56.28 | Khratos | :P |
| 23:57.52 | lmadsen | yes :) |
| 23:58.07 | Khratos | Will you use a CMS or program the whole site? |