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| 09:21.06 | Kurmot | hi |
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| 14:18.25 | lmadsen | jsmith: ping? |
| 14:18.34 | jsmith | lmadsen: pong? |
| 14:18.40 | lmadsen | jsmith: hi! |
| 14:19.06 | file | jsmith: ! |
| 14:19.32 | lmadsen | quick question -- if I was building a parser for the asterisk dialplan applications/functions from the XML in source, and was going to build HTML, etc... from it, would it be reasonable for my parser to basically just convert the asterisk XML to docbook format, then use other tools to create the HTML etc... ? |
| 14:19.44 | lmadsen | is that the approach you would take? |
| 14:19.55 | lmadsen | AstXML-->DocBook :) |
| 14:19.59 | jsmith | Yes |
| 14:20.07 | file | lmadsen: told you! |
| 14:20.09 | lmadsen | ok cool, that is the approach I will take then |
| 14:20.20 | lmadsen | file: I know; I just didn't believe you :) |
| 14:20.27 | jsmith | It's probably easiest if you look at doing it as an XSLT transform |
| 14:20.38 | lmadsen | XSLT transform... |
| 14:20.42 | jsmith | Shouldn't take too much work, if you've ever played with XSL before |
| 14:21.08 | jsmith | XSL takes XML and turns it into something else... either XML or non-xml output |
| 14:21.17 | lmadsen | I already have PHP code that will read the tags and such... I can look at the XSLT transform though, which I presume is just a translation of how to read one XML form as another XML form? |
| 14:21.39 | lmadsen | that's basically what my parser we going to do (which I have working basically) |
| 14:21.46 | lmadsen | perhaps there is another tool that makes it easier though |
| 14:22.34 | lmadsen | oh interesting.... |
| 14:23.33 | jsmith | You *could* do it with PHP code, but XSL Transform would probably be easier |
| 14:23.54 | jsmith | Then use PHP (or xmlstarlet or xsltproc) to apply the XSL transform to the AstXML and crank out DocBook XML |
| 14:24.35 | lmadsen | ok, I will do some googling and see if I can figure it out |
| 14:24.52 | jsmith | If not, I can try to lend a hand a bit later today |
| 14:25.11 | lmadsen | I won't have a ton of time to look at it today, so I'll probably mostly be reading about it |
| 14:26.10 | lmadsen | what I need to do is make it scriptable so that I can take the information from docbook and convert it to html, but each application or function needs to be inserted into a database individually with a script |
| 14:26.16 | lmadsen | not sure how hard that part will be |
| 14:26.35 | jsmith | Into a database, eh? |
| 14:26.51 | lmadsen | aye |
| 14:26.56 | lmadsen | hence the PHP parser I was going with |
| 14:27.06 | lmadsen | so I could parse per <application> and then insert into the DB |
| 14:27.33 | lmadsen | the point of the script is to generate an HTML output, and insert that into a drupal book |
| 14:27.54 | lmadsen | so I want each application to be on it's own page in the book, so you'll have a list of applications and functions on the website |
| 14:28.49 | lmadsen | perhaps there are actually two problems here to be solved: astXML -> docbook, and astXML -> drupal book |
| 14:29.36 | lmadsen | because I could generate the HTML, but then I would still need to create "breaks" in the HTML so each section could be inserted individually |
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| 18:31.16 | jsmith | lmadsen: That's called "chunking" |
| 18:31.18 | jsmith | lmadsen: (where you generate each section of the book as a little chunk of HTML) |
| 18:31.22 | jsmith | lmadsen: The XSL stylesheets that come with docbook take care of that |
| 19:00.24 | lmadsen | sweet! |
| 19:00.43 | lmadsen | so sounds like I just want to use stylesheets |
| 19:02.08 | jsmith | Aye! |
| 19:02.35 | jsmith | And stylesheets are really just XSL transforms with some extra gooey goodness |
| 19:05.53 | lmadsen | hmmmmmmm.... so could I use the same stylesheet for the transform? |
| 19:06.06 | lmadsen | or would I just have a transform and a stylesheet separate that I would feed in for the two processes? |
| 19:06.38 | jsmith | You would use a stylesheet (or XSL transform) for each step |
| 19:06.41 | lmadsen | in addition, can we go the other way, from docbook --> astXML with the sheet? |
| 19:06.54 | lmadsen | has too many questions :) |
| 19:06.57 | jsmith | Not with the same transform, no |
| 19:07.09 | lmadsen | ok no problem, just needed to know |
| 19:07.47 | lmadsen | well, it could be a separate transform |
| 19:07.54 | lmadsen | sounds like I just need 3 sheets |
| 19:08.16 | lmadsen | AstXML --> Docbook |
| 19:08.16 | lmadsen | DocBook --> AstXML |
| 19:08.16 | lmadsen | AstXML --> HTML chunking. |
| 19:09.23 | jsmith | Well, it's really gonna be easier to do: |
| 19:09.30 | jsmith | AstXML -> Docbook |
| 19:09.36 | jsmith | Docbook -> HTML chunking (already written!) |
| 19:09.46 | jsmith | Docbook (subset) -> AstXML |
| 19:14.36 | lmadsen | interesting... can you elaborate on what (subset) means? |
| 19:15.47 | jsmith | Well... there's no way we could take just any old DocBook and turn it into AstXML, as AstXML is *very* limited. |
| 19:16.08 | jsmith | So I said "subset" to say we could take a limited set of DocBook and turn it into AstXML |
| 19:16.28 | jsmith | Man... give me 10 or 15 minutes and I'll see if we can't do some work on it |
| 19:20.04 | lmadsen | lol |
| 19:20.21 | lmadsen | jsmith: think the docbook from TFoT (as the subset) |
| 19:20.34 | jsmith | curses and shakes his fist at lmadsen for distracting him with all this talk of documentation |
| 19:20.46 | lmadsen | I didn't mean to create any work for you -- I just wanted to make sure I went into the right direction :) |
| 19:38.29 | lmadsen | rah rah rah! gooooooooooooooo documentation! |
| 19:59.57 | Juggie | it would be hot if one day one set of information created the book, the asterisk documentation, etc :) |
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