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| 02:27.03 | Juggie | ping |
| 03:15.42 | leifmadsen | pong |
| 03:23.30 | Juggie | whats up bud |
| 03:32.43 | leifmadsen | not much.. just chillin' after soccer |
| 03:32.50 | leifmadsen | I should probably be in bed since I have to get up in 6.5 hrs |
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| 13:18.25 | leifmadsen | morning all |
| 13:19.06 | jsmith | morning leifmadsen |
| 13:19.29 | leifmadsen | how goes Mr. Smith? |
| 13:31.19 | leifmadsen | btw: the wanpipe configuration system can go right to hell |
| 13:31.46 | leifmadsen | I've had to compile like 5 times now just so I can keep installing all the dependencies it decides to fail with AFTER it compiles all the kernel drivers |
| 13:32.15 | leifmadsen | just telling me right up what it needs (like... a check that it does the for the kernel drivers) would be real nice |
| 13:32.28 | leifmadsen | </rant> |
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| 13:41.58 | leifmadsen | jsmith: ping? |
| 13:42.35 | jsmith | leifmadsen: I'm here... ask away! |
| 13:42.43 | jsmith | is packing his suitcase |
| 13:42.52 | leifmadsen | jsmith: quick question -- what is the standard signalling for PRI's in N.A.? |
| 13:42.56 | leifmadsen | DMS100? |
| 13:43.00 | leifmadsen | or 5ESS |
| 13:43.06 | leifmadsen | errr switchtype |
| 13:43.09 | leifmadsen | not signalling |
| 13:43.10 | RobH | exit |
| 13:43.14 | RobH | ack, wrong window |
| 13:43.15 | leifmadsen | quit |
| 13:43.16 | RobH | =P |
| 13:43.16 | leifmadsen | :) |
| 13:43.28 | leifmadsen | what a syn! |
| 13:44.37 | jsmith | leifmadsen: There is no "standard" |
| 13:44.47 | leifmadsen | I guess I meant most common |
| 13:44.58 | leifmadsen | or does it really vary that widely in N.A.? |
| 13:45.09 | jsmith | leifmadsen: There are *four* standars... NI2 (national), 4ESS (AT&T), 5ESS (Lucent), and DMS100 (Nortel) |
| 13:45.20 | jsmith | leifmadsen: It really varies widely from telco to telco and trunk group to trunk group |
| 13:45.27 | leifmadsen | Bell? :) |
| 13:45.35 | jsmith | leifmadsen: You have to ask the PRI provider what type of signaling they're using. |
| 13:45.45 | jsmith | leifmadsen: Ask the telco! |
| 13:45.48 | leifmadsen | anyways, I'll just guess for now then and move along instead of trying to get access to the other server |
| 13:46.04 | jsmith | I'd try 5ESS first, but if you don't get the switchtype right, you'll have weirdness on the lines |
| 13:46.33 | leifmadsen | yep, it's just a test box |
| 13:46.39 | leifmadsen | that's what I picked too |
| 13:46.49 | leifmadsen | Juggie would potentially know |
| 13:47.16 | leifmadsen | I'm going to get someone to verifiy the switchtype later anyways |
| 13:47.21 | leifmadsen | not production, so no biggie |
| 13:48.14 | leifmadsen | nice..... sangoma haven't updated their wancfg_dahdi script to unload dahdi_dummy (it tries to unload ztdummy still) |
| 13:48.32 | leifmadsen | and still uses zaptel.conf, et.c.. |
| 13:48.35 | leifmadsen | stupid sangoma |
| 13:51.00 | Juggie | leifmadsen, in canada default is dms100 |
| 13:51.08 | leifmadsen | Juggie: awesome,t hanks |
| 13:51.16 | leifmadsen | I almost picked that too, heh |
| 13:51.20 | leifmadsen | Nortel right? |
| 13:51.23 | Juggie | if you just ask for a pri thats what bell will give you |
| 13:51.25 | Juggie | ya i think so |
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| 15:09.57 | Juggie | leifmadsen: did that work? |
| 15:10.11 | leifmadsen | I don't have the T1 plugged in right now |
| 15:10.14 | leifmadsen | will let you know later :) |
| 15:10.27 | leifmadsen | oh, but I think it is National anyways, because I found out it is an Allstream T1 |
| 15:10.37 | leifmadsen | (and got access to the other box where it is config'd :)) |
| 15:11.35 | Juggie | it can vary |
| 15:11.41 | Juggie | we have NI2 w/ Allastream |
| 15:11.49 | Juggie | *allstream |
| 15:12.01 | Juggie | allstream is our ds3 provider |
| 15:12.28 | Juggie | i'm not sure what the default is with them, because we've had both ni2 and dms100 from them |
| 15:13.57 | leifmadsen | ya, NI2 here it looks like |
| 15:43.54 | Juggie | nic says allstream will provide a dms100 by default |
| 15:44.33 | leifmadsen | gotcha |
| 15:44.41 | leifmadsen | well, I got a config from the other server already |
| 15:46.16 | Juggie | cool. |
| 15:46.30 | Juggie | as uses dms500 switches appearantally |
| 16:00.33 | Juggie | jsmith: ping |
| 16:13.41 | jsmith | Juggie: pong |
| 16:22.11 | Juggie | jsmith: since you went camping last week i have a question, any recomendation for a good tent |
| 16:22.36 | leifmadsen | I like coleman tents |
| 16:22.37 | jsmith | Juggie: Good tent, or cheap decent tent? |
| 16:22.45 | leifmadsen | good tents are a bit pricy |
| 16:22.46 | Juggie | jsmith, a little of both |
| 16:22.52 | Juggie | aka not a walmart ozark trail |
| 16:23.01 | jsmith | The last tent I bought was a Wenger (Swiss Gear) |
| 16:23.24 | Juggie | eg, i dont need it to be light |
| 16:23.27 | jsmith | It's supposedly a nine-man tent, but really it fits four or five comfortably, plus has room for the gear |
| 16:23.28 | leifmadsen | I think it's coleman.... hmmm, been a while |
| 16:23.32 | Juggie | its not a backpacking tent |
| 16:23.49 | jsmith | It's a pentagon shape + a rectangle "lobby" for stashing your year |
| 16:23.56 | jsmith | I bought it at walmart for less than $90 |
| 16:24.00 | jsmith | And it's a nice solid tent |
| 16:24.05 | Juggie | jsmith, i prefer the dome tents i think |
| 16:24.13 | Juggie | they are the easiest to setup |
| 16:24.15 | jsmith | Much quicker to setup than the traditional coleman |
| 16:24.38 | leifmadsen | jsmith: is that the one with the poles kinda built-in in the middle and you just basically pop it up? |
| 16:24.38 | Juggie | a good 2 pole tent would be my ideal choice |
| 16:24.55 | Juggie | i dont want to dick around spending 45min to setup my tent |
| 16:25.01 | Juggie | the tent we have now is up in 10minutes max |
| 16:25.27 | jsmith | leifmadsen: No... this has a plastic hub in the middle... and five short poles that go into the hub (at the top of the dome) |
| 16:25.30 | Juggie | step 1) slip in 2 poles 2) stand up poles, 3) attach rainfly. |
| 16:25.34 | Juggie | thats all i want to do :) |
| 16:25.34 | jsmith | leifmadsen: Then there are two poles that hold up the "lobby" |
| 16:25.52 | jsmith | Juggie: On this one, the poles *clip* on instead of sliding in, so it's even faster |
| 16:26.01 | Juggie | jsmith, which tent is this? |
| 16:27.04 | jsmith | The Wenger I bought last year |
| 16:37.26 | jsmith | Juggie: This is the closest to the design of my tent: http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=412306&pdesc=Gander_Mountain_Stargazer_Tent&cname=8-or-10-Person&aID=505K1C&merchID=4006&r=view |
| 16:37.36 | jsmith | Juggie: Mine is a bit bigger, but that same basic design |
| 16:44.16 | Juggie | looks pretty good |
| 16:44.18 | Juggie | quite large |
| 16:44.24 | Juggie | i'm not sure i want something that big |
| 16:44.37 | Juggie | because i like atm that our 2-3 person tent stays warm |
| 16:44.40 | Juggie | almost too warm |
| 16:44.45 | Juggie | while everyone else bitches they are cold |
| 17:02.10 | leifmadsen | Juggie: you have experience installing queuemetrics right? |
| 17:22.28 | Juggie | unfortunatally yes |
| 17:22.37 | Juggie | i need an irc client w/ a spell checker |
| 17:23.08 | Juggie | do you have work for me? |
| 17:23.58 | leifmadsen | Juggie: potentially, not right now though |
| 17:24.02 | leifmadsen | won't be till next week |
| 17:24.12 | Juggie | k |
| 17:24.32 | Juggie | Anything due after june7th would be sweet |
| 17:24.36 | Juggie | as i said gf is gone for 3 weeks |
| 17:25.17 | leifmadsen | ya, no rush for this yet |
| 17:25.25 | Juggie | k |
| 17:26.38 | Juggie | its pretty quick to install |
| 17:26.44 | Juggie | i could do a simple system in an hour prob |
| 17:26.57 | Juggie | more so if its RHEL/Centos |
| 17:27.29 | leifmadsen | ya, debian unfortunatey |
| 17:28.22 | Juggie | that will take longer then |
| 17:28.26 | Juggie | even 50-100% longer |
| 17:29.04 | Juggie | w/ rpm your literally do yum install queuemetrics |
| 17:29.07 | Juggie | and it does it all :) |
| 18:00.53 | leifmadsen | anyone know if there is a dialplan application or function that will send a voicemail notification? (i.e. MWI) |
| 18:03.44 | jsmith-lunch | leifmadsen: Not that I know of |
| 18:03.52 | jsmith-lunch | leifmadsen: Maybe there's something in minivm? |
| 18:03.53 | leifmadsen | ya I didn't think so |
| 18:03.58 | leifmadsen | I was just looking in minivm.... |
| 18:04.03 | leifmadsen | I don't see anything though |
| 18:04.40 | leifmadsen | I know Matt Nicholson made something once, but I have to see if that'll apply here |
| 18:05.36 | file | minivm has it in 1.6.2 and trunk |
| 18:06.44 | leifmadsen | aha, 1.6.2! |
| 18:06.47 | leifmadsen | will upgrade! |
| 18:12.16 | Juggie | leifmadsen, you need to send a MWI if there is no VM? |
| 18:12.53 | leifmadsen | Juggie: no, I need to send MWI from the dialplan because the device is not a specific extension |
| 18:12.56 | leifmadsen | it will change (hot desking) |
| 18:13.29 | Juggie | do you know where the user is hotdesked into in the db? |
| 18:13.43 | Juggie | er, in a db. |
| 18:13.45 | leifmadsen | I will |
| 18:13.50 | Juggie | pish |
| 18:13.53 | Juggie | you can be more creative. |
| 18:14.06 | Juggie | would suggest using odbc voicemail |
| 18:14.07 | leifmadsen | why be creative when I can just use an application to update the MWI |
| 18:14.12 | leifmadsen | that seems really straight forward |
| 18:14.24 | Juggie | because what if the user walks away from desk |
| 18:14.27 | Juggie | checks vm on cell |
| 18:14.29 | Juggie | and comes back |
| 18:14.31 | Juggie | light wont go off |
| 18:14.45 | leifmadsen | why not? I will know which VM it is, and update the device |
| 18:15.25 | leifmadsen | I've done this at another location, and it works well, I just had something custom and wanted to use stock asterisk |
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| 18:15.34 | leifmadsen | plus they won't be checking VM from a cell |
| 18:15.36 | leifmadsen | codefreeze-lap: OMG! |
| 18:15.40 | Juggie | i guess there is no web interface to it either? |
| 18:16.10 | leifmadsen | this is stock asterisk |
| 18:16.27 | leifmadsen | and some astraa phones |
| 18:16.29 | codefreeze-lap | hey, leif! |
| 18:16.38 | Juggie | i would of tried an updateable view for the voicemail table. |
| 18:16.57 | Juggie | but maybe i'm over complicating it :) |
| 18:17.14 | leifmadsen | actually you'd be updating the sip_buddies table |
| 18:17.16 | leifmadsen | not the voicemail table |
| 18:17.37 | leifmadsen | mailbox= |
| 18:18.17 | Juggie | you could do it either way |
| 18:18.42 | Juggie | that said. sip budies would not work as well i dont think since that is only loaded once |
| 18:18.49 | Juggie | however the voicemail table is loaded often |
| 18:19.01 | Juggie | used to be every 30 seconds, not sure if the event system changed that |
| 18:19.31 | leifmadsen | I don't understand how changing the voicemail table updates the MWI on a phone |
| 18:20.06 | Juggie | because using a view you could fudge the voicemail box into being the box the phone is set to |
| 18:21.04 | Juggie | so when i log into extension 150 and * checks for vm, you could have the voicemailtable loook like there is vm for mailbox 150 |
| 18:21.49 | Juggie | when infact it would be their real mailbox name belonging to the user. |
| 18:24.51 | leifmadsen | oh gotcha |
| 18:25.02 | leifmadsen | seems like a lot of work for MWI :) |
| 18:27.05 | Juggie | ya, not sure if it would work i'd have to tst it |
| 18:27.07 | Juggie | *test |
| 18:27.28 | Juggie | the tricky part would be leaving voicemail as you canno specify one table for mwi and one for leaving |
| 18:27.32 | Juggie | so would the view |
| 18:27.37 | Juggie | er, view update properly. |
| 18:27.57 | Juggie | what i also dont know is if the 30 second thing is removed now w/ the event system stuff |
| 18:30.41 | Juggie | leifmadsen: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/05/29/toronto-traffic.html?ref=rss |
| 18:30.47 | Juggie | not that you drive |
| 18:31.29 | leifmadsen | I drove today, and I knew about that |
| 18:31.33 | leifmadsen | luckily I'm on the west side |
| 18:31.37 | leifmadsen | (west of all that crap) |
| 18:32.01 | leifmadsen | protest outside MTCC, bike race near St. Lawrence Market, and there was something else too I think |
| 18:32.02 | Juggie | your driving now? |
| 18:32.06 | Juggie | gf's car? :P |
| 18:33.06 | Juggie | dollar up to 91cents leif |
| 18:33.08 | Juggie | that sucks for you |
| 18:33.11 | leifmadsen | I know |
| 18:33.15 | leifmadsen | Juggie: you're |
| 18:33.26 | leifmadsen | Juggie: yes, girlfriends car -- I've driven lots, just not the last couple of years |
| 18:33.33 | leifmadsen | whenever we go out, I always drive |
| 18:33.37 | leifmadsen | g/f rarely drives anymore |
| 18:33.41 | leifmadsen | it's even stick |
| 18:33.50 | leifmadsen | Mazda 3 GT |
| 18:33.57 | leifmadsen | 2.4L |
| 18:35.02 | Juggie | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.11 | Juggie | the only thing she drives is you eh :) |
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| 18:36.08 | leifmadsen | :D |
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| 18:40.40 | Juggie | leifmadsen, so now is not a good time to xfer from usd account then :) |
| 18:40.49 | leifmadsen | no |
| 18:40.57 | leifmadsen | I've been avoiding it for a couple weeks |
| 18:42.05 | Juggie | good time to cross the border and buy some stuff |
| 18:42.17 | Juggie | i wish i knew of a good camping store in upstate ny |
| 18:42.58 | Juggie | there should be something in syracuse |
| 19:38.58 | Juggie | hmmm i just realized i have not heard any swine flu stories in quite a while |
| 19:39.07 | Juggie | i guess the news got tired of it :) |
| 19:39.35 | jsmith | Juggie: I still get tweets from the CDC about it |
| 19:39.52 | Juggie | ya but the usa is anal :) |
| 19:43.34 | leifmadsen | Juggie: you'll hear about it more come winter and fall |
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| 20:10.09 | Juggie | leifmadsen, i bit and ordered thge spa3102 |
| 20:10.14 | leifmadsen | heh |
| 20:10.16 | Juggie | so i can cut down my servers @ home from 2 -> 1 |
| 20:10.26 | Juggie | so linux can be a vm |
| 20:10.30 | Juggie | instead of dedicated |
| 20:10.50 | leifmadsen | nice |
| 20:11.14 | Juggie | ya |
| 20:11.25 | Juggie | i guess now i need to build a freenas box one of these days |
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