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| 21:06.34 | Juggie | jsmith: ping |
| 21:07.45 | jsmith | Juggie: pong |
| 21:07.53 | Juggie | jsmith: long time no chat, whats new. |
| 21:08.18 | Juggie | heard your no longer w/ digium. |
| 21:10.13 | jsmith | No, I haven't been w/ Digium since last July |
| 21:10.21 | jsmith | I'm the Fedora Project Leader now :-) |
| 21:12.09 | Alric | He likes it when you email his personal account with Fedora bugs. |
| 21:12.24 | Alric | Wait, what bugs? |
| 21:13.44 | jsmith | We still have a few... |
| 21:13.51 | jsmith | has been involved in a blocker bug meeting for the past four hours |
| 21:16.35 | Juggie | hehe nice. |
| 21:16.38 | Juggie | how is fedora jsmith? |
| 21:16.47 | Juggie | i installed fedora 14 just a couple of days ago |
| 21:16.48 | jsmith | Awesome, of course... |
| 21:16.51 | Juggie | :) |
| 21:16.58 | jsmith | 15 should come out at the end of May |
| 21:17.07 | jsmith | It's going to be a *very sweet* release |
| 21:17.16 | jsmith | Gnome 3 on the desktop |
| 21:17.18 | Juggie | i usually stick to centos bt i needed autoconf 2.60 to build configure from configure.ac |
| 21:17.21 | Juggie | for asterisk |
| 21:17.26 | jsmith | systemd for the init system |
| 21:17.31 | Juggie | ya i've heard some crap about gnome 3 vs kde etc |
| 21:17.34 | jsmith | new dynamic firewall daemon |
| 21:17.53 | Alric | How does systemd compare to upstart |
| 21:17.54 | Alric | ? |
| 21:18.05 | Juggie | sounds good... so long as it runs sshd i'm happy :) |
| 21:19.04 | jsmith | Alric: It's an upgrade from upstart |
| 21:19.17 | jsmith | Alric: More sane dependency ordering, faster booting, etc. |
| 21:19.24 | Alric | jsmith: Do all services use systemd? |
| 21:19.36 | jsmith | Alric: (We moved from sysvinit to upstart a few releases ago, and are now moving to systemd) |
| 21:19.46 | jsmith | Alric: All of the major distros are moving to systemd, except for Ubuntu |
| 21:19.56 | Alric | One of the biggest annoyances to me was the half- fake-sysvinit half-upstart that Ubuntu 10.04 shipped |
| 21:22.00 | Juggie | i hate ubuntu |
| 21:22.03 | Juggie | i think it sucks personally |
| 21:22.19 | Juggie | but alot of people swear by it |
| 21:22.21 | Juggie | so what do i know :) |
| 21:22.31 | Alric | I don't like that they publish a "server" edition when their focus is clearly not servers. |
| 21:22.55 | Juggie | ya really stick to what you know |
| 21:22.55 | Alric | Maybe I just don't understand it, but I see no reason why landscape needs to be present on a server. |
| 21:23.05 | Juggie | you dont see centos releasing the desktop edition |
| 21:23.12 | Juggie | speaking of which wtf is centos6 |
| 21:23.22 | Juggie | must be a hold up of some sort |
| 21:32.17 | jsmith | Juggie: The CentOS folks got behind schedule as they decided to push out 5.6 first, and apparently 5.6 took them a lot longer than they were expecting |
| 21:32.28 | Juggie | ah ic. |
| 21:32.32 | jsmith | Juggie: (There's more politics behind it as well, but that's the short answer) |
| 21:32.34 | Juggie | i'm suprised there is no beta repo. |
| 21:32.39 | Juggie | ya i knew there would be |
| 21:32.45 | Juggie | cuz its taking a long long time |
| 21:33.01 | jsmith | To quote one of their core members: "CentOS is build *for* the community, not *by* the community." |
| 21:35.19 | Juggie | translation? |
| 21:35.57 | Juggie | seems like a crappy remark |
| 21:36.05 | Juggie | who exactally does centos? |
| 21:36.08 | Juggie | its not redhat. |
| 21:36.34 | jsmith | It's three of four guys |
| 21:37.06 | jsmith | Karanbir Singh more of less holds the group together these days |
| 21:37.31 | jsmith | In short though, they seem to need more people helping, but not want to relinquish control to anyone else |
| 21:54.51 | Juggie | that doesnt seem like many |
| 21:55.22 | Juggie | they have tons of sponsors lots of people use centos over RHEL |
| 21:55.54 | Juggie | maybe fedora should do a fedora-server :) |
| 22:43.49 | Juggie | #asterisk* channels seem quieter these days. |