| 00:00.06 | ]data[ | Merry XMoouse from UK |
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| 00:03.22 | dant | merry christmas |
| 00:09.12 | Mike | bkw_: http://mike.calle69.net/casa.png |
| 00:09.14 | jtew__ | top ramin.... mmmm |
| 00:10.35 | bkw_ | Mike you still didn't get what I said |
| 00:10.55 | Mike | bkw_: ok let me re-read yo again |
| 00:11.28 | bkw_ | you said Dial(IAX/user:pass@host/exte@context&IAX/user:pass@host/exte@context) |
| 00:11.40 | Mike | yes |
| 00:11.42 | bkw_ | I said you can do the same thing with chan_local if the box making the call knows about extensions |
| 00:11.47 | bkw_ | ie if you have |
| 00:11.58 | bkw_ | exten => 1234,1,Dial(IAX/user:pass@host/exte@context) |
| 00:12.10 | bkw_ | then you can dial that via chan_local |
| 00:12.11 | Mike | oh declare extensions on secundary box? |
| 00:12.12 | bkw_ | like this |
| 00:12.20 | bkw_ | Dial(Local/1234) |
| 00:12.34 | bkw_ | or you can be creative and use the switch => statement |
| 00:12.36 | Mike | ok |
| 00:12.37 | bkw_ | :) |
| 00:12.46 | Mike | i dont know how to use switch yet |
| 00:13.13 | Mike | ill read on it ill make a short testing on your example |
| 00:14.07 | jtew__ | bkw: how is that MSN thing working out? |
| 00:16.24 | Mike | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.25 | Mike | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.25 | Mike | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.25 | Mike | calle69*CLI> |
| 00:16.45 | Mike | Zap/1-1 switches till 2 ring |
| 00:17.13 | Mike | bkw_: im doing a test with my exten now |
| 00:17.15 | Mike | exten => s,1,Dial(Local/101) |
| 00:19.02 | bkw_ | is exten 101 also defined ? |
| 00:19.06 | Mike | yes |
| 00:19.12 | bkw_ | in the same context? |
| 00:19.16 | bkw_ | or diffrent context? |
| 00:19.16 | Mike | exten => 101,1,Dial(SIP/101,90,Tt) |
| 00:19.16 | Mike | exten => 101,2,VoiceMail2(sb101) |
| 00:19.28 | Mike | on another context |
| 00:19.36 | bkw_ | then its Local/101@context |
| 00:19.39 | Mike | ok |
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| 00:23.28 | learath | hey JerJer |
| 00:23.30 | learath | merry christmas |
| 00:23.44 | JerJer | and a happy new year |
| 00:24.05 | learath | heh, not quite the new year yet |
| 00:24.35 | l-fy | ehlo JerJer |
| 00:24.46 | l-fy | mail from: diana@tts.ro |
| 00:24.57 | pattieja | have a merry christmas |
| 00:25.00 | pattieja | see you guys later |
| 00:29.10 | jtew__ | learath: what caliber is that? |
| 00:30.18 | learath | .50BMG |
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| 00:30.56 | jtew__ | that will set ya back what... 5K? |
| 00:31.22 | learath | 5-8depending on condition & accessories |
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| 00:35.00 | JerJer | l-fy: howdie |
| 00:36.11 | l-fy | JerJer > quite good dear. |
| 00:37.37 | JerJer | so yesterday you were bitching at me and today i'm a dear :) |
| 00:37.50 | l-fy | JerJer > you are my dear bitch |
| 00:40.10 | l-fy | wb kram |
| 00:40.34 | JerJer | IAXy IAXy IAXy |
| 00:41.05 | l-fy | yakis |
| 00:41.06 | kram | greets jerjer |
| 00:41.07 | l-fy | yakis |
| 00:41.13 | jtew__ | kakis |
| 00:41.14 | kram | a.k.a. mr. binks |
| 00:41.35 | kram | greets l-fy |
| 00:43.31 | bkw_ | yo yo yo |
| 00:43.56 | kram | yo bk, what's shakin g fresh |
| 00:43.57 | l-fy | bo bo bo |
| 00:44.18 | bkw_ | not much |
| 00:44.25 | bkw_ | just play with MSN + Asterisk |
| 00:44.49 | Mike | what msn client do you use? |
| 00:44.56 | Mike | amsn doesnt support sip yet |
| 00:45.02 | Mike | nor gaim |
| 00:45.04 | bkw_ | er Windows Messenger |
| 00:45.08 | bkw_ | the one with XP |
| 00:45.10 | Mike | oh windows... |
| 00:45.18 | bkw_ | I can make and receive calls thru asterisk.. duh |
| 00:45.21 | Mike | i need a client that works on linux |
| 00:45.32 | Mike | gnophone is no option |
| 00:45.36 | Mike | doesnt compile on my box |
| 00:45.41 | l-fy | Mike > the best is asterisk, with oss driver loaded |
| 00:45.41 | bkw_ | asterisk makes a good softphone |
| 00:45.55 | Mike | bkw_: how do i configure an extension my self? |
| 00:45.56 | UnixDawg | the console |
| 00:46.20 | Mike | like im on asterisk console how do i declare a extension to the console? |
| 00:46.32 | UnixDawg | mike what errors did you get when compiling gnophone |
| 00:46.36 | bkw_ | type add extension |
| 00:46.40 | bkw_ | read the help |
| 00:46.41 | Mike | UnixDawg: let me check |
| 00:46.49 | Mike | UnixDawg: are you a developer? |
| 00:46.50 | UnixDawg | and did you install the needed iax libs |
| 00:46.55 | bkw_ | Example: add extension 6123,1,Dial,IAX/216.207.245.56/6123 into local |
| 00:46.55 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.06 | UnixDawg | no i just compiled it on a linux box slackware fine |
| 00:47.25 | UnixDawg | it took a few tries |
| 00:47.30 | Mike | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.30 | Mike | raw2h.c:46: error: syntax error before '%' token |
| 00:47.30 | Mike | raw2h.c:47:1: missing terminating " character |
| 00:47.30 | Mike | raw2h.c:53: error: syntax error before string constant |
| 00:47.30 | Mike | raw2h.c:53: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `fprintf' |
| 00:47.32 | Mike | raw2h.c:53: warning: data definition has no type or storage class |
| 00:47.34 | Mike | make[2]: *** [raw2h.o] Error 1 |
| 00:47.54 | Mike | bkw_: i can do that on the extensions config file but how do i set a extension to dial console |
| 00:48.04 | Mike | like dial,Console |
| 00:48.05 | Mike | ? |
| 00:48.08 | UnixDawg | ok did you pull from cvs |
| 00:48.14 | Mike | UnixDawg: no |
| 00:48.29 | UnixDawg | try pulling the last ver from cvs |
| 00:48.46 | UnixDawg | and you need libiax2 |
| 00:48.50 | UnixDawg | and libiax |
| 00:48.54 | Mike | i got libiax |
| 00:48.56 | UnixDawg | and a few other libs |
| 00:49.00 | UnixDawg | ok |
| 00:49.01 | Mike | unix could you make it a tarball |
| 00:49.03 | Mike | and send it |
| 00:49.17 | Mike | tar -cpvf gno.tar gnophone.... |
| 00:49.21 | Mike | could you? |
| 00:49.44 | UnixDawg | no not ont he box I am on . my slackware box is at work |
| 00:49.51 | UnixDawg | I am home |
| 00:50.09 | Mike | ok |
| 00:50.37 | UnixDawg | but hold and let me see if I can get access via vpn |
| 00:50.38 | JerJer | http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_548253.html?menu=news.technology <--- sweet |
| 00:50.41 | UnixDawg | if its open |
| 00:51.19 | bkw_ | JerJer thats OLD OLD news |
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| 00:51.45 | bkw_ | Story filed: 14:01 Tuesday 19th March 2002 |
| 00:51.55 | l-fy | hi glLoadIdentity |
| 00:52.00 | l-fy | glLoadIdentity > long time no see |
| 00:52.15 | JerJer | bkw_: wow i just heard about it... does it work? |
| 00:52.20 | glLoadIdentity | hi l-fy , how r you ? |
| 00:52.23 | bkw_ | RING RING... Yes you can cancel JerJer subscription to Uptodate.. he will be giving his business to "Behind the times" |
| 00:52.33 | UnixDawg | way to cool |
| 00:52.34 | bkw_ | :P |
| 00:52.43 | UnixDawg | i want one |
| 00:52.47 | Mike | bkw_: its xmas night be good boy |
| 00:53.08 | JerJer | i just got it from Ask Slashdot comment |
| 00:53.13 | l-fy | glLoadIdentity > quite well |
| 00:53.35 | bkw_ | haha |
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| 00:54.17 | bkw_ | the only way i'm gonna have a merry xmas is some guy shows up in a santa outfit... with visable ab muscles and a nice tan. |
| 00:55.03 | Mike | bkw_: that was so gay |
| 00:55.09 | bkw_ | yes yes it was |
| 00:55.16 | Mike | bkw_: you gay really? |
| 00:55.34 | bkw_ | yep |
| 00:55.48 | Mike | good |
| 00:55.58 | bkw_ | hehe why? |
| 00:56.04 | Mike | no no i was just asking |
| 00:56.06 | glLoadIdentity | :) |
| 00:57.52 | Mike | bkw_: i usually have fun with girls i thought you did the same |
| 00:57.56 | Mike | :) |
| 00:58.07 | bkw_ | nope |
| 00:58.14 | bkw_ | never have.. never will |
| 00:58.26 | Mike | bkw_: this is mine http://mike.calle69.net/DSC00199.JPG |
| 00:58.44 | Mike | bkw_: http://mike.calle69.net/DSC00199.JPG |
| 00:58.50 | Mike | oopps same link |
| 00:59.23 | bkw_ | killah |
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| 01:02.13 | jtew__ | wow, this place is just jamming |
| 01:02.32 | jtew__ | maybe everyone will get VoIP hardware for Christmas |
| 01:02.41 | Mike | jtew__: we all wish |
| 01:02.55 | jtew__ | Nothing says love like Cisco 7960 under the tree |
| 01:03.24 | Mike | i would some day have a 7960 for my own |
| 01:03.25 | sxpert | merry Xmas all |
| 01:03.32 | Mike | i hope so |
| 01:03.39 | Mike | sxpert: merry xmas |
| 01:04.05 | glLoadIdentity | ;) yess , merry xmas all to you |
| 01:04.25 | jtew__ | ;) |
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| 01:05.34 | glLoadIdentity | sxpert: then hope to have an unlocker |
| 01:05.59 | sxpert | glLoadIdentity: well, uh... |
| 01:08.00 | sxpert | glLoadIdentity: also, it's "skinned" to my mum's operator (we got the phone with her points) |
| 01:08.01 | crontibs | ok this is starting to be weird |
| 01:08.02 | crontibs | WARNING[1150495040]: File chan_iax2.c, Line 4546 (socket_read): I don't know how to authenticate rob to 69.73.19.178 |
| 01:08.13 | crontibs | how do i authenticate with rob |
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| 01:15.12 | Mike | someone knows a cheap voip gateway to normal pbx system? |
| 01:23.10 | JerJer | ASTERISK |
| 01:23.14 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:23.16 | bkw_ | smartass |
| 01:27.38 | Mike | JerJer: asterisk is not cheap |
| 01:27.44 | JerJer | ?! |
| 01:27.46 | JerJer | its not? |
| 01:27.47 | bkw_ | yes it is |
| 01:28.45 | Mike | if you count a box for * |
| 01:28.55 | Mike | 250 dlls min. |
| 01:29.00 | Mike | and x100p |
| 01:29.10 | Mike | and a FXS card |
| 01:29.19 | Mike | plus a UPS |
| 01:29.31 | Mike | you can get a gateway for 200USD maybe less |
| 01:29.52 | Mike | with a web interface very nice and simple |
| 01:29.58 | Mike | and works with just 2 or 3 clicks |
| 01:30.05 | bkw_ | where? |
| 01:30.11 | bkw_ | trust me you can't find one cheap |
| 01:30.17 | bkw_ | TRUST ME |
| 01:30.30 | Mike | well i saw them here in mexico at |
| 01:30.31 | bkw_ | i'm cheap of cheap |
| 01:30.32 | Mike | 600USD |
| 01:30.42 | bkw_ | they call me Mr. Cheap |
| 01:30.43 | Mike | and they guy told me if you sell my product you win 45% |
| 01:31.44 | Mike | so i guess its cheaper and less risky buying that for buissness |
| 01:37.19 | JerJer | but a gateway is just that |
| 01:37.28 | JerJer | asterisk is the whole pie |
| 01:37.32 | JerJer | and more |
| 01:37.56 | JerJer | so buy your gateway and download asterisk |
| 01:38.00 | JerJer | hope it works, good luck |
| 01:38.12 | JerJer | but i intend to support Digium 100% |
| 01:39.25 | doughecka | ho ho ho |
| 01:39.26 | YoYo^ | * not cheap? |
| 01:39.27 | YoYo^ | hrrm |
| 01:39.41 | UnixDawg | ok the rule for the rest of the nigh tis go spend time wiht your families if you near them get off the net unless your home alone |
| 01:39.45 | UnixDawg | it is christmas |
| 01:40.04 | Mike | yes |
| 01:40.08 | Mike | time to get offline |
| 01:40.14 | Mike | damn inet wont be so good without me |
| 01:40.21 | Mike | but it will be for a few hours |
| 01:40.21 | bkw_ | yep |
| 01:40.23 | bkw_ | same here |
| 01:40.25 | glLoadIdentity | what is the cost of an * box (full featured) then ? |
| 01:40.28 | bkw_ | we got a quote for around 14k also |
| 01:40.44 | bkw_ | I can install * and cisco 7960's cheaper |
| 01:41.03 | YoYo^ | thinking it was nearly $20k when I looked into using 3com for 2 locations |
| 01:41.05 | JerJer | glLoadIdentity: $1500 for 4 span T-1 and maybe a $1000 for a server |
| 01:41.35 | JerJer | then possibly a few hundered in development / systems intergration / deployment assistance |
| 01:41.47 | bkw_ | hell 1 T1 and a simple server can be had for 1k |
| 01:42.00 | JerJer | ahh what's another $1500 |
| 01:42.21 | bkw_ | too much when all you are ever going to use is half a T |
| 01:42.31 | JerJer | I'll prolly piss out $1,000 after this weekend is over wth |
| 01:42.36 | YoYo^ | about $5k total |
| 01:42.48 | glLoadIdentity | JerJer: channel bank + other stuff ? |
| 01:42.48 | JerJer | zhones can bite you, if your not careful |
| 01:42.52 | YoYo^ | pretty cheap for a 24x92 system |
| 01:42.56 | scott | in alcohol? |
| 01:42.56 | bkw_ | JerJer you can piss som eof that my way |
| 01:43.02 | scott | or weed? |
| 01:43.08 | YoYo^ | Jer, it's workign flawlessly so far |
| 01:43.16 | YoYo^ | if it geeks, I'll just switch to TDM40P cards |
| 01:43.17 | JerJer | rock on |
| 01:43.30 | YoYo^ | well, the FXO ports are funky as all hell |
| 01:43.33 | YoYo^ | but I'm not using those anymore |
| 01:43.33 | JerJer | they are ok for FXS |
| 01:43.45 | JerJer | but FXO is where the problems are at |
| 01:43.50 | JerJer | yep |
| 01:44.09 | doughecka | FXS doesnt have too many echo problems? |
| 01:44.13 | bkw_ | muhahah |
| 01:44.18 | JerJer | not if u do it right |
| 01:44.21 | YoYo^ | doug, none |
| 01:44.30 | YoYo^ | only echo I get is from a few Sprint offices. |
| 01:44.30 | Mike | i hate echo |
| 01:44.33 | doughecka | how do I do it wrong? |
| 01:44.40 | YoYo^ | thinking there's some old trunking being used somewhere |
| 01:44.44 | JerJer | crank the gain |
| 01:44.48 | JerJer | use shitty phones |
| 01:44.54 | doughecka | ah |
| 01:44.57 | doughecka | heh |
| 01:45.03 | Mike | shity cable |
| 01:45.09 | JerJer | wire it wrong |
| 01:45.32 | bkw_ | Ok donate to the BKW fund |
| 01:45.33 | Mike | we need a better echo canceler |
| 01:45.35 | Mike | anyway |
| 01:45.35 | bkw_ | paypal brian@bkw.org |
| 01:45.37 | bkw_ | :P |
| 01:45.49 | YoYo^ | ok... everyone send bkw $1 via paypal |
| 01:46.09 | Mike | YoYo^: you can always open it |
| 01:46.12 | doughecka | but wont |
| 01:46.12 | doughecka | :P |
| 01:46.14 | bkw_ | YoYo I can send an invoice |
| 01:46.19 | bkw_ | :) |
| 01:46.23 | doughecka | LOL |
| 01:46.24 | YoYo^ | for what? |
| 01:46.27 | doughecka | nothing |
| 01:46.29 | bkw_ | for what ever |
| 01:46.32 | bkw_ | so you can pay me |
| 01:46.32 | YoYo^ | being a nice guy and a hopeless homo? |
| 01:46.33 | bkw_ | :) |
| 01:46.41 | doughecka | this is a bill for 1 dollar (USD) for nothing |
| 01:46.43 | bkw_ | i'm a nice guy.... yes |
| 01:46.58 | bkw_ | see if everyone in here sent me 1 dollar.. man |
| 01:47.09 | doughecka | !! |
| 01:47.11 | doughecka | no |
| 01:47.12 | Mike | i could buy an ata |
| 01:47.17 | doughecka | everybody send me a buck!!! |
| 01:47.21 | bkw_ | hehe |
| 01:47.23 | Mike | everyone send me 2USD and i can buy a 7960 |
| 01:47.31 | bkw_ | ok ok |
| 01:47.43 | doughecka | everybody send me a 1000 bucks and I can buy a Porsche |
| 01:47.52 | bkw_ | doughecka you can't drive yet |
| 01:47.53 | bkw_ | your like 12 |
| 01:47.56 | doughecka | sure I can |
| 01:47.59 | Mike | hahahahah |
| 01:48.02 | doughecka | I own my own car |
| 01:48.04 | YoYo^ | everyone send me $3500 so I can buy my partners out |
| 01:48.20 | Mike | i just want a 7960 |
| 01:48.22 | Mike | :P |
| 01:48.37 | YoYo^ | mike, too bad you're not a 14yo american |
| 01:48.39 | doughecka | everyone send me a million so I can buy microsoft... er, a few microsoft shares! |
| 01:48.45 | YoYo^ | I'd tell you to go mow some lawns or shovel some snow |
| 01:48.56 | doughecka | hahaha |
| 01:48.58 | doughecka | ok |
| 01:48.59 | doughecka | brb |
| 01:49.04 | UnixDawg | why so we can cause the down fall |
| 01:49.12 | YoYo^ | some of the kids I play CS with are always asking me to buy them shit |
| 01:49.14 | Mike | doughecka: im a 21 mexican |
| 01:49.16 | Mike | :P |
| 01:49.25 | YoYo^ | I'm always like "dude, go earn some money" |
| 01:49.44 | YoYo^ | speaking of CS.. |
| 01:49.55 | UnixDawg | CS ? |
| 01:51.52 | blitzrage | Computer Science ? |
| 01:52.17 | UnixDawg | play CS what is CS |
| 01:52.29 | UnixDawg | <== not a gamer |
| 01:53.26 | JerJer | i have a ut2003 server online we could play |
| 01:54.33 | scott | yes |
| 01:54.38 | scott | and ill play on linux :P |
| 01:54.45 | scott | 3d w00t |
| 01:55.37 | scott | i don't |
| 01:57.29 | JerJer | buy it |
| 01:58.28 | scott | linux version dosn't need cd to play |
| 01:59.43 | JerJer | crack it |
| 02:02.06 | scott | why do i need to crack it when it's already playable |
| 02:05.11 | doughecka | JerJer: you play ut2k3? |
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| 02:05.26 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:05.41 | doughecka | my ut2k3 took forever to download^H^H^HShip |
| 02:05.48 | scott | lol |
| 02:06.06 | doughecka | stupid ISP^H^H^HFedex |
| 02:06.24 | doughecka | scott: eh? your avalible to do some fraggin? |
| 02:06.29 | doughecka | how about JerJer? |
| 02:06.29 | scott | yes |
| 02:06.34 | scott | im sucky though |
| 02:06.39 | scott | but it works on linux :P |
| 02:06.46 | scott | you all play on linux too? |
| 02:06.46 | doughecka | heh |
| 02:06.50 | scott | or you're all lamers |
| 02:07.00 | JerJer | i gota set it up |
| 02:07.11 | doughecka | oh |
| 02:07.18 | doughecka | I use winders |
| 02:07.23 | JerJer | u guys can get started leme figure out which IP its running on |
| 02:07.27 | doughecka | only because it has my favorite games |
| 02:07.31 | doughecka | aha |
| 02:07.36 | doughecka | JerJer #asterisk-fraggers |
| 02:07.36 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:07.42 | bkw_ | what? |
| 02:07.45 | doughecka | doh |
| 02:08.03 | doughecka | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:08.05 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:08.09 | doughecka | copy didnt seem to work |
| 02:08.17 | UnixDawg | doug you would be broke |
| 02:08.18 | doughecka | Server IP: 62.101.68.43 (Italy), Password: astfrag |
| 02:08.26 | doughecka | UnixDawg: har har |
| 02:08.38 | scott | alrighgt, im going in |
| 02:09.16 | doughecka | me too |
| 02:10.06 | bkw_ | hahahah |
| 02:10.09 | UnixDawg | night all |
| 02:10.14 | bkw_ | gregs parents put "From the Fab 2" on our gifts |
| 02:10.17 | bkw_ | they are funny people |
| 02:10.21 | UnixDawg | gonna go watch tv and pout |
| 02:10.30 | bkw_ | i'm out of here.. gonna watch teevee |
| 02:10.32 | UnixDawg | no christmas for me this year |
| 02:10.41 | UnixDawg | home alone |
| 02:10.45 | UnixDawg | no family |
| 02:10.49 | UnixDawg | no friends |
| 02:10.53 | UnixDawg | all alone |
| 02:10.55 | UnixDawg | it sucks |
| 02:10.59 | sxpert | UnixDawg: merry xmas... we are your family :DDD |
| 02:11.13 | UnixDawg | smile that makes me feel better |
| 02:11.22 | UnixDawg | hugs all |
| 02:11.26 | UnixDawg | merry Xmas |
| 02:11.36 | UnixDawg | .nick Unix-Zzzz |
| 02:15.10 | JerJer | glLoadIdentity |
| 02:15.31 | glLoadIdentity | JerJer: yes ? |
| 02:15.53 | JerJer | crack it |
| 02:28.15 | *** join/#asterisk andu (~andu@68.147.131.15) |
| 02:28.22 | andu | hello |
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| 02:29.53 | glLoadIdentity | hi |
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| 02:32.02 | hmodes | damnit i think my usual channel has officially died |
| 02:32.07 | hmodes | that's depressing |
| 02:32.37 | hmodes | anything amusing in here? |
| 02:33.23 | Mike | we are all going to die |
| 02:33.35 | hmodes | fantastic! |
| 02:33.44 | hmodes | that's the kind of optimistic banter i'm looking for in a channel |
| 02:33.58 | hmodes | but will it be soon? |
| 02:34.03 | Mike | we are all going to die |
| 02:34.08 | hmodes | soon?!? |
| 02:34.08 | andu | I have a small problem with *. When I dial one of my extensions it plays the unavail. msg but the and that phone shows 1 missed mesg |
| 02:34.16 | Mike | right now |
| 02:34.26 | hmodes | wow, that's rather sudden |
| 02:34.32 | hmodes | but i'm down with that i guess |
| 02:34.55 | hmodes | andu: what form of phone and what's your extension entry? |
| 02:35.19 | andu | hmodes, it's a cisco 7960 |
| 02:35.32 | hmodes | natted? |
| 02:35.50 | andu | hmodes, mo |
| 02:36.00 | hmodes | and the mwi turns on when someone leaves message? |
| 02:36.07 | andu | hmodes, yes |
| 02:36.27 | andu | hmodes, the ext rings for 1/s sec and then it goes to vm |
| 02:36.51 | hmodes | paste extensions line to rule out obvious stuff! |
| 02:37.11 | hmodes | and/or have you watched sip debug to see what happens? |
| 02:38.06 | andu | hmodes, exten => 100,1,Dial(SIP/100,tr,10) exten => 100,2,Voicemail2,b100@sip exten => 100,102,Voicemail,u100@sip |
| 02:38.33 | andu | that's the exten I call |
| 02:39.12 | hmodes | hrmm, i usually put timeout first and options second.. dunno if that matters |
| 02:39.22 | hmodes | does changing the timeout change # of rings at all? |
| 02:39.41 | hmodes | and who sends the bye when the call goes to voicemail after the 1st ring |
| 02:40.03 | Mike | ok IRC dies now xmas time |
| 02:40.11 | Mike | happy xmas all |
| 02:40.18 | hmodes | pffft, i know not of this xmas of which you speak |
| 02:40.22 | hmodes | but happy that |
| 02:41.21 | andu | hmodes, one sec I'm doing a test call right now |
| 02:47.34 | bkw_ | lalala |
| 02:47.59 | hmodes | shouldn't that be falalala? |
| 02:48.24 | bkw_ | The wonderful thing about tiggers |
| 02:48.24 | bkw_ | Is tiggers are wonderful things! |
| 02:48.24 | bkw_ | Their tops are made out of rubber; |
| 02:48.24 | bkw_ | Their bottoms are made out of springs! |
| 02:48.24 | bkw_ | They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy, |
| 02:48.24 | bkw_ | Fun! Fun! Fun! Fun! Fun! |
| 02:48.26 | bkw_ | But the most wonderful thing about tiggers is |
| 02:48.28 | bkw_ | I'm the only one! |
| 02:48.37 | bkw_ | w00t! |
| 02:49.16 | hmodes | pfft |
| 02:50.18 | hmodes | i think andu got distracted by something shiny |
| 02:50.44 | andu | hmodes, nope |
| 02:50.48 | andu | hmodes, :P |
| 02:50.51 | bkw_ | haha |
| 02:51.01 | andu | hmodes, I got distracted by the sip log |
| 02:51.08 | hmodes | mmm, yeah that happens |
| 02:51.25 | andu | looks very strange |
| 02:51.36 | hmodes | that's not strange, that's a creeping horror |
| 02:51.37 | andu | the only think i see in there is the 100 trying |
| 02:51.44 | andu | after that noothing |
| 02:52.05 | hmodes | eek? |
| 02:52.14 | hmodes | shouldn't there be a 180 ringing in there somewhere? |
| 02:52.26 | hmodes | damnit does this mean i have to read shit |
| 02:52.31 | andu | it should but I don't see it |
| 02:52.36 | andu | not with sip debug anyway |
| 02:52.44 | hmodes | so asterisk sends invite |
| 02:52.49 | hmodes | cisco sends trying |
| 02:52.56 | hmodes | and then nothingness and voicemail? |
| 02:53.01 | andu | yes |
| 02:53.11 | hmodes | does asterisk respond to the cisco at all? |
| 02:53.39 | hmodes | like 102 or 180/3? |
| 02:54.19 | hmodes | or it just dies at the trying and voicemail happens |
| 02:54.31 | andu | all I see is the following |
| 02:54.46 | andu | * send 100 trying |
| 02:54.52 | andu | cisco sends 200 ok |
| 02:54.54 | andu | and that's it |
| 02:55.08 | andu | nothingelse untill the hangup |
| 02:55.31 | hmodes | what firmware on the cisco, what asterisk version/date, and damnit you're making me do a debug |
| 02:55.37 | andu | 5.3 |
| 02:55.40 | hmodes | you'd think i would know a callflow by now |
| 02:55.50 | andu | today's cvs |
| 02:56.21 | andu | well the problem is that sip show gives me to few packets |
| 02:56.26 | andu | I don't see the invites |
| 02:56.31 | andu | I don't see the byes |
| 02:56.39 | andu | sip debug* |
| 02:57.51 | hmodes | if you start asterisk with -vvv > somefile.txt |
| 02:57.57 | hmodes | and the turn on debug from a remote console |
| 02:58.04 | hmodes | you can less somefile and get lots of buffer |
| 02:58.11 | hmodes | debug will log every message |
| 02:59.03 | hmodes | or get ethereal sip plugin |
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| 02:59.22 | angler_ | JerJer, whats up |
| 02:59.25 | hmodes | seems there should be all kinds of more messages then that |
| 02:59.28 | hmodes | it's hard shit to read |
| 02:59.53 | andu | yeah I think I'll try the ethereal plugin because I've already tried the first method |
| 03:00.25 | andu | I'll let you kow what I get |
| 03:01.09 | hmodes | took me forever to find my ringing issue.. but once i made sense of the damn sip it was one of those 'kick self in arse' things |
| 03:01.13 | blitzrage | wonder when the ethereal plugin will be put into ethereal by default |
| 03:01.20 | blitzrage | hehe |
| 03:01.42 | hmodes | speaking of which, cisco needs to get up on iax2 |
| 03:01.54 | *** topic/#asterisk by angler_ -> Happy Holidays!! Make sure you save on all those long distance calls with voip. |
| 03:01.55 | hmodes | they could technically do that without extending the gpl to their firmware, right? |
| 03:01.59 | hmodes | like just reverse it or something |
| 03:02.16 | blitzrage | cisco won't use iax2 |
| 03:02.22 | blitzrage | at least I doubt it |
| 03:02.33 | hmodes | right, but if they did it could save their voip line |
| 03:02.43 | blitzrage | :) |
| 03:02.51 | hmodes | whereas if they don't they're fucked |
| 03:02.59 | hmodes | or at least _something_ better then sip, christ |
| 03:03.03 | blitzrage | their voip line could save itself if they dropped their prices to a reasonable level |
| 03:03.08 | blitzrage | sip does suck :) |
| 03:03.15 | blitzrage | ok.. that's a bit harsh... |
| 03:03.20 | hmodes | no no, it sucks |
| 03:03.22 | blitzrage | but iax2 is way better than sip |
| 03:03.24 | blitzrage | hmodes: lol |
| 03:03.25 | hmodes | like, h323 sucked more |
| 03:03.33 | blitzrage | true true :) |
| 03:03.34 | hmodes | but sip didn't learn from h323's mistakes |
| 03:03.38 | hmodes | it just ripped off http |
| 03:03.39 | blitzrage | agreed. |
| 03:03.42 | hmodes | and still didn't address nat |
| 03:03.45 | hmodes | dumbasses |
| 03:03.52 | blitzrage | hmodes: the nat thing is what bothers me the most about sip |
| 03:04.01 | blitzrage | hmodes: if you can't traverse nat.. you're dead in the water. |
| 03:04.07 | hmodes | yeah, like, for the love of god i dealt with early h323 |
| 03:04.37 | blitzrage | ugh |
| 03:04.39 | hmodes | and that was it's #1 problem |
| 03:04.40 | blitzrage | I'm sorry for you :) |
| 03:04.45 | hmodes | so then they release another standard |
| 03:04.49 | hmodes | that sucks almost as much |
| 03:04.50 | hmodes | what the FUCK |
| 03:04.58 | blitzrage | someone wasn't thinking :) |
| 03:05.06 | hmodes | lots and lots of crack |
| 03:05.38 | blitzrage | I also like the fact that iax (calling iax2 now... I basically am killing off iax1 in my head :)) uses a single port for everything |
| 03:06.18 | hmodes | funny that |
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| 03:19.15 | h3x | hahaha |
| 03:19.19 | h3x | nice topic |
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| 03:52.48 | blitzrage | sheesh.. it's christmas eve.. you'd think more people would be here and not with their families :) |
| 03:53.32 | hmodes | present and accounted for! |
| 03:54.27 | TestMasTer | yawnz |
| 03:55.29 | blitzrage | damn it's cold in here |
| 03:56.08 | lori | turn up the heat |
| 03:57.10 | TestMasTer | geeze i`m bored lol |
| 03:57.50 | lori | play some music and dance |
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| 03:58.20 | TestMasTer | can`t the next aceholes call the cops to fast |
| 03:59.08 | lori | hmm |
| 03:59.19 | lori | well at least the boredom would be gone |
| 03:59.46 | TestMasTer | ya very true or i could start writing some stuff again for *.. and remember to save it this time lol |
| 04:00.41 | lori | writing |
| 04:00.42 | lori | eww |
| 04:01.02 | TestMasTer | lol ya but if it helps someone out why lol |
| 04:01.13 | TestMasTer | but i don`t feel like it tonight i want to get drunk |
| 04:01.26 | lori | then get drunk |
| 04:01.38 | hmodes | that is what christmas is for! |
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| 04:02.03 | TestMasTer | hmodes, agreed, but i`m still waiting for my booze lol |
| 04:02.09 | lori | what day isn't for getting drunk? |
| 04:02.21 | TestMasTer | lori, good question |
| 04:02.54 | derrick | parole day? |
| 04:03.05 | lori | very true |
| 04:04.38 | hmodes | screw the kids, leave them at the camp |
| 04:04.41 | hmodes | they'll just want food |
| 04:04.46 | hmodes | and food == less money for booze |
| 04:04.50 | lori | drop them off at the pool |
| 04:05.02 | derrick | dood, kids can make you money |
| 04:05.09 | hmodes | hehe |
| 04:05.09 | derrick | you just gotta sell them to the right dirty people |
| 04:05.37 | lori | like some of the dirty old men here |
| 04:05.41 | TestMasTer | derrick, ick lol |
| 04:05.48 | derrick | dirty old men need love too |
| 04:06.07 | lori | that's why they made rape |
| 04:06.23 | derrick | rapes just a bad protocol handshake |
| 04:06.30 | lori | lol |
| 04:06.37 | TestMasTer | derrick, well there is this dirty old man that keeps bugging the kids around here.. I will send him your way |
| 04:06.40 | derrick | sorry, that was tasteless |
| 04:06.47 | lori | sick derrick |
| 04:07.01 | derrick | sorry to joke about rape :\ it was just low hanging fruit |
| 04:07.12 | derrick | evil bad evil |
| 04:07.18 | derrick | that last evil was a checksum |
| 04:07.18 | lori | but it happens |
| 04:07.47 | derrick | synner |
| 04:07.48 | TestMasTer | I wish it was allowed, to kill those dirty old men, if they start bugging kids |
| 04:08.01 | hmodes | hehe |
| 04:08.06 | lori | derrick is all full of wit tonight |
| 04:08.10 | derrick | does ehap still exist? ethical hackers aganst pedo's |
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| 04:08.40 | TestMasTer | hrmz i will ask one of my friends, he is right up on that, |
| 04:08.53 | lori | pedophilia? |
| 04:08.55 | derrick | afk |
| 04:09.03 | TestMasTer | lori, ya |
| 04:09.15 | lori | not a good friend to have |
| 04:09.25 | TestMasTer | no he is on the hackers side |
| 04:11.04 | lori | i see |
| 04:11.10 | derrick | the hacker's side? |
| 04:11.14 | derrick | is that like the dark side? |
| 04:11.16 | derrick | but sexier? |
| 04:11.20 | TestMasTer | lol |
| 04:11.29 | derrick | with better clothes? |
| 04:11.35 | blitzrage | what do you all use to burn files to a cd in linux ? |
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| 04:11.50 | derrick | cdrecord? |
| 04:11.53 | angler_ | cdrecord |
| 04:11.55 | TestMasTer | derrick, i`m not sure if we are talking about the group, These guys are building virus and stuff to stop those kiddie porn ppl |
| 04:12.20 | derrick | test...could be a new off-shoot..this was back in late 80s early 90s |
| 04:12.34 | TestMasTer | oh i don`t know then |
| 04:12.45 | derrick | used to be ehap.org...domain's unreg'd now |
| 04:12.53 | TestMasTer | I need a name of some good movies, that have just came out anyone know of some? |
| 04:13.13 | lori | Goonies |
| 04:13.49 | TestMasTer | lori, any others? |
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| 04:13.59 | angler_ | orgazmo is a good movie |
| 04:14.00 | derrick | dvd or screen? |
| 04:14.31 | TestMasTer | screen is fine because i will be putting it on a dvd |
| 04:14.42 | lori | Brazil was good |
| 04:14.51 | TestMasTer | lori, is it english? |
| 04:14.56 | derrick | brazil is always good...any terry gilliam is good |
| 04:14.58 | lori | yeah |
| 04:15.05 | TestMasTer | ok |
| 04:15.23 | derrick | get the criterion ver of brazil...as it's intended to be seen |
| 04:15.49 | TestMasTer | ok thanx, that should keep me going |
| 04:16.01 | TestMasTer | brb |
| 04:16.07 | lori | Heathers was good too |
| 04:16.30 | derrick | lori, see donnie darko? |
| 04:16.39 | derrick | that was a recent interesting one |
| 04:16.55 | lori | no... I've been told it's a must see though |
| 04:17.17 | derrick | yeah, it's odd..in the past 5 years or so that's the only really unique one i've seen.. mulholland drive is good too |
| 04:17.44 | lori | yeah... I like mulholland more than lost highway |
| 04:17.46 | lori | liked |
| 04:17.59 | derrick | definitely, i really don't like lost highway..it's my least fave of all |
| 04:18.14 | derrick | but i think i watched it at a bad point in life and should try it again..just never have..but man..currently i hate it |
| 04:18.27 | derrick | mulholland was really intersting tho |
| 04:18.27 | lori | lol |
| 04:18.34 | derrick | ;) |
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| 04:18.42 | lori | i like blue velvet a lot too |
| 04:18.48 | derrick | oh boy |
| 04:18.59 | derrick | yeah... htat's in the top 10 for sure |
| 04:19.14 | derrick | i have a blue robe thanks to that film ;) |
| 04:19.19 | lori | lol |
| 04:19.28 | lori | I will never forget |
| 04:19.32 | derrick | heheheheheh |
| 04:19.34 | lori | "He put his disease in me" |
| 04:19.48 | angler_ | do what? |
| 04:19.51 | derrick | you ever see john waters desperate living? |
| 04:19.58 | lori | nope |
| 04:19.59 | derrick | it's incredible |
| 04:20.06 | derrick | write it down..it's a 'must see' |
| 04:20.19 | derrick | pure trash art |
| 04:20.38 | lori | I may go get those tonight |
| 04:21.09 | derrick | it's a pretty good ride ...if it's a fun movie shop snag peter jackson's 'meet the feebles' that should round it out nicely :) |
| 04:21.37 | lori | better check to see if the store is still open |
| 04:22.04 | derrick | soon...when we have matter transformers you can just have it zapped to you |
| 04:22.17 | derrick | or just d/l'd..either way is fine ;) |
| 04:22.22 | lori | matter over ip? |
| 04:22.37 | derrick | until something better comes along |
| 04:25.19 | blitzrage | man.. xmas comes in like 8.5 hours ;) |
| 04:25.32 | blitzrage | crazy |
| 04:26.12 | hmodes | screw christmas |
| 04:26.16 | hmodes | in da butt |
| 04:26.30 | blitzrage | lol |
| 04:26.59 | TestMasTer | brb |
| 04:27.08 | lori | no luck on movies over ip or store |
| 04:27.56 | TestMasTer | lori, you talking to me? |
| 04:28.17 | lori | no |
| 04:28.22 | lori | to derrick or myself |
| 04:28.23 | TestMasTer | ok bbl |
| 04:38.50 | derrick | lori gerrr... if ya liked blue velvet for the interesting reasons you'd enjoy desperate living (i prolly mispelled it)...they have it on vhs and dvd w/ polyester i think) |
| 04:39.21 | hmodes | that boy needs therapy |
| 04:53.26 | lori | which boy? |
| 04:54.07 | lori | lol YoYo |
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| 05:00.24 | hmodes | ah the joys of midnight |
| 05:00.33 | hmodes | thank god i don't have to go to the office tomorrow |
| 05:03.53 | YoYo^ | ok, it's christmas |
| 05:03.58 | YoYo^ | where the fuck are my presents? |
| 05:05.43 | loko-moko | dunno |
| 05:05.49 | loko-moko | the dell and digium santa better come |
| 05:05.53 | hmodes | presewhat? |
| 05:06.43 | YoYo^ | all I wanted for christmas, was a hot brunette to keep me company |
| 05:06.45 | YoYo^ | :/ |
| 05:06.52 | lori | lol |
| 05:15.31 | blitzrage | I wouldn't mind a hot brunette either ;) |
| 05:16.30 | loko-moko | lol |
| 05:19.10 | hmodes | viphw |
| 05:20.43 | hmodes | ..nsg kadum sijat tg\i u fiybd tgeur devuce.accciybt orifues |
| 05:21.02 | derrick | ?? |
| 05:21.46 | lori | fingers on the wrong keys? |
| 05:22.18 | derrick | they have a rot14 keyboard...1+ the norm |
| 05:22.41 | derrick | top secret code and all |
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| 05:29.33 | loko-moko | santa just brought me a dell server |
| 05:29.33 | loko-moko | wahoo |
| 05:29.39 | blitzrage | nice |
| 05:29.41 | loko-moko | maybe he will bring me 2 more and some T1 cards |
| 05:29.59 | loko-moko | well not really, loko santa got a good deal off a new dell rack server on ebay |
| 05:30.01 | loko-moko | =) |
| 05:30.13 | loko-moko | $200 less than it costs to buy from dell direct |
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| 05:32.22 | _Eagle_ | merry christmas everyone |
| 05:33.44 | *** join/#asterisk coppice_ (~Steve@92.166.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 05:34.11 | loko-moko | anyone know much about dell rack servers? Do all 1U servers use the same rail? Do all 2U use the same? or do I need to get specific 2650 rails |
| 05:34.41 | blitzrage | anyone know much about jtag interfaces and dish network? :) |
| 05:35.30 | coppice_ | JTAG I am very familiar with. What is dish? A cute woman? |
| 05:35.50 | _Eagle_ | loko: dunno... i have a 1u and a 2u, i know they dont use the same rails, but i dunno if all 1u's and 2u's use the same respectively |
| 05:36.23 | _Eagle_ | coppice must not be in the US |
| 05:36.47 | loko-moko | eagle yea same here |
| 05:36.56 | loko-moko | looks like the 650, 1650, 1750 all use the same rail (all 1u) |
| 05:37.08 | loko-moko | according to this 3rd party web site sellign rails, they say they wont on them all |
| 05:37.32 | coppice_ | loko-moko: There are comprehensive standards for 19" racking. Europeans keep to them US companies believe in screwing everything up. Rails on any non-European 19" rack stuff are highly non-standard |
| 05:42.26 | _Eagle_ | coppice: europeans also use the metric system... so they shouldn't even have 19" rack rails... |
| 05:42.40 | _Eagle_ | they should have 43.2 centimeter rails, or whatever |
| 05:42.56 | _Eagle_ | (i hate the metric system with a passion) |
| 05:43.10 | blitzrage | _Eagle_: the metric system is awesome |
| 05:43.19 | _Eagle_ | yuck |
| 05:43.25 | blitzrage | imperial is stupid |
| 05:43.56 | blitzrage | I mean.. when you use metric, to convert anything.. you just move the decimal place.. I think even americans could handle that :) |
| 05:44.26 | lori | did he just dis americans? |
| 05:44.34 | _Eagle_ | i think he did |
| 05:44.46 | lori | That's so not cool |
| 05:44.57 | blitzrage | sure it is |
| 05:45.03 | blitzrage | :) |
| 05:45.14 | blitzrage | at least I think it's pretty cool |
| 05:45.19 | _Eagle_ | blitzrage: the metric system is great for communist countries, thats why europeans love it so much |
| 05:45.33 | _Eagle_ | capitalists like the standard system |
| 05:45.36 | lori | lol |
| 05:45.40 | blitzrage | I prefer to be a commie |
| 05:45.49 | _Eagle_ | i'll elaborate for you.... |
| 05:46.04 | blitzrage | I'm socialist, not capitalist |
| 05:46.20 | blitzrage | elaborate.. pretty big word for an american :) |
| 05:46.23 | _Eagle_ | with the metric system, fewer people need calculators... if you sell fewer calculators, companies make less money... |
| 05:46.33 | _Eagle_ | if companies make less money, they have to lay off employees.... |
| 05:46.46 | _Eagle_ | if employees are laid off they cant feed their families... |
| 05:46.51 | _Eagle_ | and people start dying |
| 05:46.54 | blitzrage | lol |
| 05:46.56 | _Eagle_ | all because of the metric system |
| 05:48.04 | lori | now I'm a capitalist and all |
| 05:48.09 | _Eagle_ | not to mention the fact that everthing will become 1000 times harder to do |
| 05:48.11 | lori | but that reasoning is fucked up |
| 05:48.35 | lori | in capitalism... efficiency is king |
| 05:49.54 | derrick | yeah, base 10 calculations are the hardest ever |
| 05:50.00 | derrick | metric is a bad bad idea |
| 05:50.06 | derrick | standards, in general, BAD |
| 05:50.17 | derrick | imperial thought GOOD |
| 05:50.27 | derrick | caveman hate change |
| 05:50.32 | lori | lol |
| 05:50.45 | _Eagle_ | well come on... you start measuring things in kilometers, and people will always run out of gas |
| 05:51.00 | blitzrage | I never run out of gas |
| 05:51.44 | _Eagle_ | people wont know how far they can travel on a single tank |
| 05:51.56 | _Eagle_ | or how long it will take to get to chicago |
| 05:52.00 | derrick | and they should die if they can not adapt |
| 05:52.01 | lori | lay off the crack eagle |
| 05:52.31 | derrick | lay flopping on the interstates gasping for clue |
| 05:52.32 | _Eagle_ | lori: calm down, you can't tell a joke when you see it? |
| 05:53.04 | lori | and me telling you to lay off the crack was not? |
| 05:53.11 | blitzrage | man.. I couldn't live in the states for two reasons: imperial system sucks and you rely too much on hard currency.. give me Interac anyday |
| 05:53.14 | _Eagle_ | i know i'm not jay leno, but geez |
| 05:53.59 | _Eagle_ | i never use cash |
| 05:54.06 | blitzrage | cash sucks |
| 05:54.07 | _Eagle_ | well, almost never |
| 05:54.10 | derrick | wha's interac? |
| 05:54.12 | _Eagle_ | i use credit cards |
| 05:54.16 | derrick | i use debi |
| 05:54.18 | derrick | t |
| 05:54.21 | blitzrage | debit = interac |
| 05:54.24 | lori | yup i use debit cards |
| 05:54.24 | derrick | ahh |
| 05:54.30 | lori | in fact, everyone i know does |
| 05:54.31 | _Eagle_ | the only place i use cash is places that dont take credit cards |
| 05:54.32 | derrick | so they still can track us all |
| 05:54.54 | _Eagle_ | i dont like debit cards |
| 05:54.56 | blitzrage | yah.. but isn't there like 20 different debit systems in the states ? |
| 05:55.02 | _Eagle_ | they offer no real protections |
| 05:55.10 | derrick | who does tho? |
| 05:55.14 | lori | they all work the same blitz |
| 05:55.25 | blitzrage | lori: but doesn't a store need like 20 different machines? :) |
| 05:55.30 | lori | uh no |
| 05:55.34 | derrick | nope |
| 05:55.41 | _Eagle_ | credit cards are the safest method of payment for consumers |
| 05:55.53 | blitzrage | interac is a standard in canada |
| 05:56.00 | blitzrage | if you use a debit card.. you are using interac |
| 05:56.00 | _Eagle_ | blitzrage: you've never been to the states i guess |
| 05:56.06 | blitzrage | _Eagle_: been to it lots |
| 05:56.07 | derrick | my mastercard allows me to gen one-time cc#'s per transaction..that's the only way i do online shite |
| 05:56.39 | blitzrage | _Eagle_: used to deliver gray market vehicles there... obviously taking jobs and money away from vehicle assembly plants in the states :) |
| 05:57.05 | lori | everyone uses card here now... at the pumps, registers, everywhere |
| 05:57.13 | _Eagle_ | with 1 machine you can do visa, mastercard, discover, american express, diners club, debit cards, etc... |
| 05:57.23 | blitzrage | oh ok.. so the same as here then |
| 05:57.24 | _Eagle_ | and if it's a PC based machine, you can do check by phone too |
| 05:57.28 | derrick | t's a capitalists dream |
| 05:57.36 | lori | so why do you say we use too much hard currency? |
| 05:57.43 | blitzrage | lori: because you do |
| 05:57.51 | derrick | he's used to hoookers |
| 05:57.59 | lori | i guess |
| 05:58.03 | derrick | and drug dealers...he likes his smack |
| 05:58.17 | lori | i've been using my card for about 10 years |
| 05:58.21 | derrick | sweeeet sseet tastey smack |
| 05:58.23 | blitzrage | I think it's funny when you go 10 minutes over the board and the stores have no idea what canadian currency looks like :) |
| 05:58.36 | blitzrage | nah.. just weed |
| 05:58.41 | blitzrage | and good weed too :) |
| 05:58.51 | derrick | blitz..yhou in canadia? |
| 05:58.56 | blitzrage | nope |
| 05:58.57 | blitzrage | :) |
| 05:59.00 | derrick | oh..nm.. |
| 05:59.05 | lori | yes he is |
| 05:59.08 | derrick | so i heard the new pm of canadia is all anti weed |
| 05:59.18 | blitzrage | yah.. that's true... kinda sucks |
| 05:59.19 | derrick | so i was scared of not being able to move there |
| 05:59.32 | blitzrage | oh fuck.. he's anti weed... but most cops smoke it :) |
| 05:59.33 | derrick | is the stuff i hear true? possible turning of laws? |
| 05:59.48 | derrick | yeah..but politics and legal are diff..i'd rather have them on the same page |
| 05:59.55 | blitzrage | well.. was going to be.. think it'll be a little while longer until it's decriminalized.. but personally.. I think it's better this way |
| 06:00.04 | derrick | i will move to a place and support a place i belive in.. |
| 06:00.24 | derrick | elaborate? |
| 06:00.50 | blitzrage | reason being.. is that as soon as it's legal, you have to implement all sort of rules and stuff on it.. when it's illegal, it's just kinda open. The politicians don't have to deal with it, and I can just continue to happily smoke it in my house, or wherever |
| 06:00.51 | derrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:01.21 | derrick | i don't see that aspect as being threatened |
| 06:01.45 | derrick | what i was _lead_ to believe was it wouldn't be tolerated... |
| 06:02.01 | blitzrage | huh? man.. seriously. I would say like 60% of canadians smoke... |
| 06:02.05 | derrick | regardless..i don't quite undersand how canada operates so much better than us |
| 06:02.10 | blitzrage | it's totally tolerated here |
| 06:02.17 | derrick | yeah, i know it is... |
| 06:02.24 | derrick | i must've mis-spoke |
| 06:02.38 | derrick | i from what i hear as long as you don't cuase a prob... you're ok |
| 06:02.54 | blitzrage | people don't get all uppetity about it here.. people are just cool about it. It's not the evil drug that is perceived in commericals in the states.... |
| 06:03.15 | derrick | overall tho..canada has less homeless.less crime..etc |
| 06:03.17 | coppice_ | I'm pro seaweed. It tastes really good wrapped around my sushi :-) |
| 06:03.22 | derrick | wtf is the diff in US and Candada? |
| 06:03.36 | blitzrage | derrick: less people |
| 06:03.43 | derrick | is that all? |
| 06:03.45 | blitzrage | derrick: and no southerners :) |
| 06:03.48 | derrick | that does't make sense to me |
| 06:03.56 | blitzrage | derrick: people think different here |
| 06:04.06 | derrick | canada Has It Right...but US doesn't.... |
| 06:04.11 | lori | lol |
| 06:04.13 | lori | idiots |
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| 06:04.21 | blitzrage | derrick: I used to live on the border of the states.. I know how americans think.. it's wierd.. kinda hard to explain. If you live in Canada for a while.. you just kinda understand. |
| 06:04.23 | coppice_ | blitzrage: they spell differently too. And the speed limits are much higher |
| 06:04.29 | blitzrage | coppice_: lol |
| 06:04.39 | hmodes | eh, canada is a bunch of mcdonlads eating walmart whores just like the us |
| 06:04.40 | derrick | blitz... enlighten me at all? |
| 06:04.47 | hmodes | they just get high and say 'eh alot |
| 06:04.50 | hmodes | so they're cooler |
| 06:04.56 | blitzrage | hmodes: lol |
| 06:05.19 | blitzrage | derrick: ummm.. not sure what I can tell you. Basically Canadians aren't as stuck up as the states :) We realize other people live in this world.... :) |
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| 06:06.16 | derrick | you're surely insane :) |
| 06:06.17 | blitzrage | I'm not saying all americans are like that.. I mean, I know a lot of cool americans.. but the "general" mentality is much different in Canada |
| 06:06.26 | blitzrage | derrick: hey man.. I tell it like it is :) |
| 06:06.46 | blitzrage | derrick: you talk to a canadian.. and he'll never say it to an americans face.. but we all talk about americans fairly poorly here :) |
| 06:06.56 | derrick | no, american's are insanely solipsistic |
| 06:07.28 | coppice_ | americans talk about americans poorly. its the lousy English standards there :-) |
| 06:07.34 | blitzrage | hehe |
| 06:07.53 | derrick | i have many many canadian friends so i can take your comments in perspective |
| 06:08.17 | blitzrage | derrick: if you ever have a chance to just live here for a bit.. you'll kinda understand... |
| 06:08.30 | derrick | i'll eventually move to canada, but for now i enjoy the stories all around |
| 06:08.37 | blitzrage | yah.. canada rocks |
| 06:08.42 | derrick | yeah, i know it does |
| 06:08.55 | blitzrage | and we have better beer :) |
| 06:08.57 | derrick | for the time being, it has the best system... |
| 06:08.59 | blitzrage | and of course better weed |
| 06:09.03 | derrick | on this side.. |
| 06:09.13 | derrick | if not here...germany |
| 06:09.13 | blitzrage | derrick: capitalist vs. socialist.. that's the difference |
| 06:09.30 | derrick | understood |
| 06:09.36 | derrick | but whcih is better/worse? |
| 06:09.36 | blitzrage | derrick: canada is more communist than anything.. just without the whole dictatorship thing :) |
| 06:09.40 | derrick | it's such a fine line |
| 06:10.01 | derrick | yeah, US sucks for the less fortunate...yet they all just flock here |
| 06:10.12 | derrick | and scrape by on nothing...it's very upsetting |
| 06:10.17 | blitzrage | personally I like the socialist system better because it's not so caught up in how much money you have. I'm generalizing again.. but basically if you have money in the US, you're good, if you don't have money.. you're shit outta luck |
| 06:10.32 | derrick | blitz, exactly |
| 06:10.34 | derrick | i hate it too |
| 06:10.45 | blitzrage | canada "tries" to balance it by trying to bring the bottom end up.... it's not perfect.. but it helps to keep crime and stuff down |
| 06:10.47 | derrick | whcih is why matter transformers are so important |
| 06:11.00 | derrick | as soon ast $$$ isn't the problem..but matter |
| 06:11.02 | derrick | we can evolve |
| 06:11.19 | blitzrage | if you have a job, then all of a sudden lose your job, you can still get an income from the gov't, still have health care, etc.. etc.. etc.. |
| 06:11.40 | blitzrage | granted some people take advantage of that.. but for the most part people prefer to work and not collect unemployment |
| 06:11.40 | derrick | blitz..we barely have that here to...not as well as CA tho |
| 06:11.49 | derrick | US is pretty shitty when it comes to it's citizens |
| 06:11.55 | derrick | corpations..they're great tho |
| 06:12.34 | user_ | it's because of corporations that you have a job in the first place |
| 06:12.38 | blitzrage | derrick: back in a bit.. gotta go and hack a satellite dish :) |
| 06:12.49 | derrick | but yea, i don't think a WORKING system exists yet... |
| 06:12.52 | derrick | they all suck |
| 06:13.13 | user_ | i lived in canada for 5 years |
| 06:13.15 | derrick | yeah, i need to go finish this module |
| 06:13.15 | user_ | pure hell |
| 06:13.21 | user_ | i'll never even visit the place |
| 06:13.26 | derrick | user where ya from? |
| 06:14.01 | derrick | alll right then |
| 06:14.12 | user_ | i'm from san jose |
| 06:14.16 | derrick | dirty cyber sex to follow my friend |
| 06:14.21 | derrick | onn hun, we get it on |
| 06:15.40 | derrick | look over there! |
| 06:16.49 | derrick | solitude is for fewls |
| 06:17.01 | angler_ | solitaire? |
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| 06:18.24 | Serp | hi all |
| 06:18.48 | Serp | hope everyone's not working too late ;) |
| 06:19.21 | Serp | Can anyone help me out with a (possibly stupid) question on channel banks? |
| 06:22.27 | atacomm | maybe |
| 06:22.37 | Serp | lol :) |
| 06:23.11 | Serp | ok I have bought the Rhino CB24 Channel Bank and I have bought the TE410P card from Digium... |
| 06:23.56 | Serp | now on channel banks I'm a complete newbie, what am I actually meant to buy to connect ADSI RJ11 phones to this channel bank?? as it seems to only have a 50 Pin AMP connector |
| 06:24.38 | atacomm | ah, ok |
| 06:24.49 | loko-moko | Has anyone had one of their T1 cards go bad? |
| 06:24.53 | atacomm | yeah, 50 pin teleco connector |
| 06:25.25 | Serp | that'll be it.. but I've got no clue what I need to connect it to :/ |
| 06:25.29 | atacomm | i've got a catalog that we can order 50-pin telco cable & breakout panels that break it out to 24 ports |
| 06:25.39 | atacomm | but not on me |
| 06:25.42 | Serp | aha that sounds promising |
| 06:25.51 | Serp | anything's better than nothing :D |
| 06:26.03 | Serp | is it an actual kinda patch panel thing to break it out? |
| 06:26.54 | atacomm | yup |
| 06:27.02 | Serp | ah.. starting to make sense |
| 06:27.22 | atacomm | basically its a 50 pin cable.......25 channels....... |
| 06:28.28 | Serp | understood.. hmm I have a guy who works with me whose background is telecoms, but guess that'll have to wait until new year :D |
| 06:28.50 | atacomm | hehe, well i know we can get them, i dont remember the pricing, but it was pricy..... |
| 06:29.03 | Serp | erk don't like the sounds of that |
| 06:29.56 | blitzrage | back |
| 06:30.18 | Serp | just paid $3500 for this lot lol |
| 06:30.48 | Serp | ah found one :) |
| 06:30.55 | atacomm | lol, well the cable is like $50 and so is the panel |
| 06:31.01 | _Eagle_ | loko: i had a T1 card go bad, and i have a friend who might have a bad card, he's still investigating |
| 06:31.12 | Serp | ah not that bad lol... I have the cable, Rhino include it |
| 06:31.21 | atacomm | ah ok |
| 06:31.22 | loko-moko | eagle - oh ok, thanks |
| 06:31.43 | _Eagle_ | serp: does the channel bank have a 25 pair amphenol connector? |
| 06:32.01 | Serp | _Eagle_: yes |
| 06:32.04 | _Eagle_ | serp |
| 06:32.31 | _Eagle_ | serp: then you need a 24 or 25 port box that breaks out the 25 pair into individual rj-ll jacks |
| 06:32.40 | _Eagle_ | Graybar carries those in stock.... |
| 06:32.46 | Serp | graybar.com? |
| 06:32.56 | _Eagle_ | i dont think you can order online |
| 06:33.01 | _Eagle_ | do you have a graybar near you? |
| 06:33.15 | Serp | umm not sure, in Salt Lake area |
| 06:33.29 | _Eagle_ | everyone who does anything with phones or networking should find their local graybar and go there often |
| 06:33.33 | user_ | there is a graybar is salt lake |
| 06:33.44 | _Eagle_ | they kick ass |
| 06:33.50 | _Eagle_ | they have everything there |
| 06:34.07 | _Eagle_ | if you wanna order from a web site, you can probably get what you need from www.ablecomm.com |
| 06:34.24 | Serp | cool thanks guys :) |
| 06:34.32 | _Eagle_ | those boxes cost like $80 or so i think |
| 06:34.33 | atacomm | eagle, we've got an account with a company that sells them |
| 06:34.38 | _Eagle_ | i have like 3 of them in my basement |
| 06:34.44 | Serp | ah that's not too bad at all |
| 06:35.15 | _Eagle_ | thats how i connected my ata186's to my phone system |
| 06:35.54 | _Eagle_ | i used a 66 block w/ amphenol connector, a 25 pair amphenol cable, and a 24 port phone jack box with amphenol cable |
| 06:36.02 | Serp | I'm going ADSI mad at the minute lol |
| 06:36.06 | _Eagle_ | then i plug my ata186's into the jacks |
| 06:36.20 | _Eagle_ | and i cross connect the 66 block to my phone system's 66 blocks |
| 06:36.48 | _Eagle_ | you should see the basement at my new hous |
| 06:36.49 | _Eagle_ | e |
| 06:36.54 | _Eagle_ | i should take pictures of it |
| 06:37.13 | Serp | that'd be cool :) |
| 06:37.36 | _Eagle_ | i have a sorta hexagonal area of the basement foundation that sits under the turret in the den |
| 06:37.57 | _Eagle_ | on 5 walls, i have big planks of 3/4 inch plywood bolted to the walls |
| 06:38.03 | _Eagle_ | painted them white.... |
| 06:38.05 | Serp | I just found something I think is right at L-Com also.. http://www.l-com.com/jump.jsp?lGen=productleader&itemID=399&itemType=PRODUCTLEADER&iProductID=399&iMainCat=102&iSubCat=65&iSubSubCat=135 - that right? |
| 06:38.09 | _Eagle_ | then mounted everything to them |
| 06:38.16 | Serp | whoah that's a lot of effort :) |
| 06:38.37 | _Eagle_ | satellite multiswitch, phone demark panels, 66 blocks, phone system ksu, cat5 network patch panels, etc |
| 06:38.47 | Serp | nice |
| 06:38.49 | _Eagle_ | its all professionally wired and looks really cool |
| 06:39.00 | _Eagle_ | my friend used to be a phone installer |
| 06:39.10 | _Eagle_ | so he came over and did all the terminations for me... looks awesome |
| 06:39.21 | Serp | :) |
| 06:39.24 | _Eagle_ | much better than it would look like if i did it |
| 06:39.43 | _Eagle_ | i ran cat5 and rg6 to every room in the house practically |
| 06:39.51 | _Eagle_ | and terminated it in that area |
| 06:39.52 | Serp | hehehe |
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| 06:40.33 | _Eagle_ | then i have a 19" rack cabinet enclosure, on wheels, with glass doors, etc... left over from my old office.... |
| 06:40.42 | Serp | yep that's dedication |
| 06:40.42 | _Eagle_ | put all my routers/servers in there |
| 06:40.52 | coppice_ | _Eagle_: no mono-mode? :-) |
| 06:41.18 | _Eagle_ | coppice: you mean single mode fiber? |
| 06:41.57 | _Eagle_ | i decided not to do fiber... too much trouble/expense for what it gives me |
| 06:42.21 | Serp | _Eagle_: do you happen to have a part # for the port box? |
| 06:42.29 | coppice_ | _Eagle_: yeah. doesn't any modern house need to be read? In Japan 100M on fibre is $25 a month. Who would want anything less? :-) |
| 06:42.35 | _Eagle_ | i'm gonna mount a couple of shelves on the wall to hold my ata186's |
| 06:42.41 | coppice_ | s/read/ready |
| 06:43.11 | _Eagle_ | serp: nope... but let me do a quick web search |
| 06:43.19 | Serp | thx |
| 06:50.16 | _Eagle_ | serb: here's the 24 port version... check it out: |
| 06:50.19 | _Eagle_ | http://www.siemon.com/e-catalog/products/Modular_Patch_Blocks.asp |
| 06:50.22 | _Eagle_ | brb |
| 06:51.24 | Serp | thx _Eagle_ much appreciated |
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| 06:56.56 | Serp | ok gonna disappear before I turn into a santa pumpkin :) thanks again all |
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| 06:57.56 | blitzrage | lol |
| 06:58.04 | blitzrage | santa pumpking.. that's priceless ;) |
| 07:01.22 | _Eagle_ | i would sell that shit on the web if i thought i could make money doing it |
| 07:01.57 | _Eagle_ | these kind of products are really cool |
| 07:02.05 | _Eagle_ | and easy to store/ship |
| 07:02.35 | user_ | does the g.729 come with source code? |
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| 07:04.28 | cman | nufone down? |
| 07:04.37 | user_ | or does digium just sell the binaries? |
| 07:05.07 | cman | i an't call my nufone 1 800 no.. says.. the person is unreacheable |
| 07:05.35 | user_ | doesn't nuphone have 24hr support? |
| 07:05.42 | cman | ~seen JerJer |
| 07:05.43 | | jerjer is currently on #asterisk (4h 6m 31s) |
| 07:05.59 | Shido6_ | what wrong with nufone? |
| 07:07.08 | cman | don't know.. calling 1 800 no says unreacheable |
| 07:07.22 | cman | anyone able to all their no of nufone? |
| 07:08.37 | user_ | is there an online reference like newtons telcom dictionary? |
| 07:09.53 | cman | nufone guys.. r u there? |
| 07:10.04 | blitzrage | they are both gone now :) |
| 07:10.40 | cman | lol... didn't know Shido was from nufne too |
| 07:15.00 | cman | another goes by |
| 07:17.57 | *** join/#asterisk JerJer (~NunYoBizN@pppoe1333.grp.centurytel.net) |
| 07:21.22 | cman | JerJer |
| 07:22.59 | JerJer | yes |
| 07:23.03 | blitzrage | g'night all. it's 2:22am.. gotta get up at 8am for xmas :) |
| 07:23.26 | cman | calling 1800 nu says everyone is busy at this time |
| 07:23.37 | cman | good nite |
| 07:23.49 | cman | merry chritmas |
| 07:23.53 | coppice_ | blitzrage: too late. Teh turkey has already been consumed! |
| 07:24.03 | user_ | have fun blitz |
| 07:24.13 | blitzrage | will do.. wonder what I'm getting tomorrow :) |
| 07:24.31 | blitzrage | how sad is it that I'm almost 23 and still getting presents :) |
| 07:24.40 | coppice_ | I got 'flu for Christmas |
| 07:24.46 | blitzrage | ugh.. good luck with that |
| 07:26.11 | cman | JerJer busy with christmas:D |
| 07:26.39 | JerJer | sorta |
| 07:27.06 | JerJer | had to wrap a couple gifts, that's about it |
| 07:28.24 | cman | can u check if my 1 800 nu is working ok? |
| 07:29.15 | JerJer | what's ur username? |
| 07:29.25 | cman | hsbohra |
| 07:30.31 | JerJer | ?! |
| 07:30.44 | cman | ? |
| 07:30.48 | JerJer | i don't show that you have a toll-free with us |
| 07:31.21 | cman | 18002488870 |
| 07:31.51 | cman | did the account expire? where can i check |
| 07:31.54 | JerJer | ahh d'oh |
| 07:32.01 | JerJer | was querying the wrong db |
| 07:32.18 | cman | ah..:( |
| 07:32.21 | cman | :) |
| 07:32.27 | JerJer | you are not regisering to gw-sfld.nufone.net |
| 07:32.28 | JerJer | hsbohra (Unspecified) (D) 255.255.255.255 0 Unmonitored |
| 07:33.39 | cman | what the ,.. i just got in asterisk -r ... File asterisk.c Line 1349 (main); Unable to connect to remote asterisk |
| 07:33.50 | JerJer | that would do it |
| 07:34.00 | cman | ah ok |
| 07:34.03 | cman | now |
| 07:34.49 | cman | ok now.. dn't know why it wasn't workling earlier... i restarted * 2 -3 times earlier.. now.. its working:-? |
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| 07:34.56 | cman | thx |
| 07:35.50 | cman | merry chritmas to all |
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| 08:01.34 | michaell | Sup all |
| 08:01.57 | user_ | yo yo |
| 08:02.12 | user_ | salt lake huh? |
| 08:02.17 | michaell | yes |
| 08:02.36 | user_ | ahh same |
| 08:02.48 | michaell | How do bussiness get away sharing pstn lines with employes? |
| 08:03.01 | michaell | isn't it illegal to share a dial tone? |
| 08:04.00 | user_ | you mean allowing the employees to dial out? |
| 08:04.08 | michaell | yah |
| 08:04.24 | user_ | well they're employees |
| 08:04.37 | user_ | it's no diff than them dialing out from work |
| 08:04.55 | michaell | Well whats this about sharing a dial tone i hear? |
| 08:05.22 | michaell | I heard its illegal to share em |
| 08:05.29 | user_ | possibly |
| 08:05.37 | user_ | pulver says it's okay if you do it for free |
| 08:05.42 | michaell | well then how can bussisness get away with it? |
| 08:06.15 | michaell | well what would be required if you charged? |
| 08:06.15 | user_ | it's no diff than employees dialing out from their desk |
| 08:06.32 | user_ | i think you have to register as a CLEC or something |
| 08:06.46 | michaell | hmm |
| 08:07.10 | user_ | if you want to resell dialtone that is |
| 08:07.16 | michaell | yah... |
| 08:07.20 | michaell | in the future i would like too |
| 08:07.31 | user_ | but a biz allowing their employees to call out from a remote office is fine |
| 08:07.47 | michaell | I was just thinking...well then for my bussienss...that would cost us alot for lots a phone liens..... |
| 08:07.50 | michaell | ok that clears it up |
| 08:09.08 | user_ | you have a company here? |
| 08:09.13 | michaell | no |
| 08:09.18 | michaell | no tyet |
| 08:09.51 | michaell | me and a friend are working on a webhosting bis |
| 08:10.13 | user_ | ahh nice |
| 08:11.29 | voidptr | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:11.37 | voidptr | xmas breakfeast |
| 08:11.46 | voidptr | baybay |
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| 08:41.03 | user_ | We're updating it... it's down at the moment... |
| 08:41.18 | michaell | wrong window |
| 08:41.23 | user_ | lol yup |
| 08:41.33 | michaell | go to aohell |
| 08:41.35 | michaell | i sent a messasge |
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| 09:21.48 | michaell | this software is confusing |
| 09:22.36 | coppice_ | I think "this" is superfluous :-) |
| 09:23.10 | michaell | its a bit confusing |
| 09:28.52 | discordia | soo kinnerz |
| 09:28.53 | discordia | ups |
| 09:32.17 | zigman | discordia, this is english not german :P |
| 09:33.12 | discordia | wrong chan zigman :) |
| 09:35.14 | zigman | :) |
| 09:35.23 | discordia | happy x-mas btw |
| 09:39.06 | michaell | dam it |
| 09:39.11 | michaell | stupid iconnect |
| 09:39.18 | michaell | does anyone know wehre i can get a budgettone for cheap? |
| 09:39.24 | michaell | cheaper then $65 |
| 09:39.44 | zigman | ~grandstream |
| 09:39.45 | | 65USD /phone email to voipsales@xvoip.com |
| 09:39.48 | zigman | ~gd |
| 09:39.50 | | A library used to create PNG images. URL: http://www.boutell.com/gd/ |
| 09:39.59 | zigman | ;) |
| 09:40.04 | michaell | i need cheaper then 65 |
| 09:40.05 | zigman | merry xmas dir auch ;) |
| 09:40.18 | zigman | mmh don't know |
| 09:40.23 | zigman | buy 20 of them ;) |
| 09:40.28 | michaell | lol |
| 09:40.33 | michaell | i don't need $300 worth of phones |
| 09:40.39 | michaell | need 2 |
| 09:41.01 | zigman | well i guess you need to pay 130 $ then ;) |
| 09:41.12 | michaell | yah thanks..... |
| 09:41.21 | michaell | 1 will do for now.. |
| 09:41.30 | michaell | if i can find 1 |
| 09:42.44 | data[Zzz] | merry xm00se everybody |
| 09:43.02 | michaell | no more chrismas |
| 09:43.07 | michaell | thats the 10th time today i heard that |
| 09:45.18 | michaell | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3067496224&category=11909 |
| 09:45.22 | michaell | but its $65 |
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| 09:46.38 | michaell | hmm |
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| 09:46.39 | michaell | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3066783947&category=11909 |
| 09:47.56 | michaell | theres these http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3067006623&category=11909 but... |
| 09:47.59 | michaell | i wish it said more |
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| 09:58.55 | Shido6_ | no friggin cows from the us comin here |
| 10:14.32 | voidptr | mooo. |
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| 10:18.34 | voidptr | wonderful world of kpn ;) |
| 10:21.56 | voidptr | what is the nick of steven critchfield? |
| 10:22.09 | voidptr | there is such a "shitload" of steve(n)'s here |
| 10:22.15 | voidptr | ;) |
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| 10:26.26 | voidptr | hey mbranca ! |
| 10:26.37 | voidptr | mbranca : <voidptr> what is the nick of steven critchfield? |
| 10:28.51 | voidptr | mm well |
| 10:28.54 | voidptr | brb |
| 10:29.03 | michaell | 10-4 |
| 10:29.44 | voidptr | there are also too much michaels here :) |
| 10:29.56 | michaell | lol |
| 10:31.37 | coppice__ | voidptr: Its good that I'm a Stephen then. Helps me stand out! :-) |
| 10:32.23 | voidptr | hehe ok ;) |
| 10:38.16 | mbranca | steven? dunno :) |
| 10:38.23 | mbranca | morning all btw |
| 10:39.11 | [Sim] | morning |
| 10:39.27 | voidptr | morning |
| 10:40.56 | mbranca | ~seen wasim |
| 10:40.57 | | wasim <~wasim@217.149.110.144> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 4d 2h 56m 3s ago, saying: 'hmodes: yeah, i konw, we burnt like a $100m back in early 90's with sprint competing with MCI and ATT on silly dialup ISP services'. |
| 10:42.16 | [Sim] | how much should a 7940 cost on ebay ? |
| 10:42.26 | [Sim] | whats a reasonable price? |
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| 11:00.12 | voidptr | well |
| 11:00.41 | voidptr | please let me know what you guys think about the old dead cow that has just been raised out of the pool for the 347st time ;) |
| 11:00.47 | [Sim] | huh? |
| 11:00.48 | voidptr | voip encryption :) |
| 11:00.51 | [Sim] | ah :) |
| 11:01.08 | voidptr | brb |
| 11:02.57 | coppice__ | voidptr: what's wrong with SRTP? |
| 11:03.23 | coppice__ | voidptr: sorry. what's wrong with SRTP that isn;t wrong with RTP? :-) |
| 11:08.45 | voidptr | coppice__ : i don't know srtp really |
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| 11:09.34 | voidptr | no encryption of the commands (i guess?) |
| 11:09.48 | voidptr | only symmetric (i guess) |
| 11:10.06 | voidptr | but maybe it has some facility of a key exchange |
| 11:10.48 | voidptr | i hate my mail client |
| 11:10.54 | voidptr | why doesn't it nicely wrap... |
| 11:12.30 | lecram | try a different client... there's enough of em.. |
| 11:16.48 | voidptr | coppice__ : but well it is a "standard" (i hope) so if someone would need it, it makes since in implementing it :) |
| 11:17.05 | voidptr | (but i was more talking about iax2 in my mail... maybe not entirely clear) |
| 11:22.02 | voidptr | also alot of "similar" things.. use a different key for sending and retrieving... i'm not entirely sure what the "benefit" is of that.. i can think of a few... but considering almost everyone does it... there must be something big :) |
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| 11:24.53 | Zzzzzzzz | what linux distro is asterisk built on? is there any that just support it out of the box (e.g. the rpms install openssl and such in places where asterisk can actually find them and asterisk is compatible with their selected version of libtermcap and so forth...) ??? |
| 11:25.32 | voidptr | i think the main author (mark) uses redhat... |
| 11:26.23 | voidptr | it is also the advice of digium to use redhat, although it works on everything... (although i heard h323 on gentoo will require quite some work) |
| 11:27.44 | Zzzzzzzz | i'm sure it can be made to work on everything, but i'm not too interested in reading makefiles and package lists and such to figure out where everything is at the moment |
| 11:28.01 | voidptr | :) |
| 11:28.03 | Zzzzzzzz | i am not typically a linux user, that's why i ask :) |
| 11:28.27 | Zzzzzzzz | isn't redhat like, uhh, discontined now ? |
| 11:28.38 | voidptr | yeh kinda.. |
| 11:28.58 | voidptr | and i also hear fedora sucks, i'm happy i use neither... but thats a different story indeed |
| 11:29.11 | Zzzzzzzz | is it really out of the box with redhat as in 'make install' and it's there ? |
| 11:29.24 | voidptr | well you need to install 4 packages... |
| 11:29.36 | Zzzzzzzz | openssl, libreadline ? |
| 11:29.40 | Zzzzzzzz | what else |
| 11:29.49 | voidptr | and the other 2 are optional i think |
| 11:29.54 | voidptr | since i can't recall them |
| 11:29.55 | Zzzzzzzz | i don't care about h.323 |
| 11:30.02 | Zzzzzzzz | but i do want g.732 and g.729 |
| 11:30.07 | Zzzzzzzz | err 723 |
| 11:30.41 | Zzzzzzzz | so what are you running asterisk on ? |
| 11:30.45 | voidptr | those 2 are not "supported"... g723.1 is supported as "passthrough" (i guess 2 phones regged to *) |
| 11:31.00 | voidptr | g729 is available as commercially licensed codec |
| 11:31.03 | Zzzzzzzz | i thought g.729 code was in the cvs version |
| 11:31.04 | voidptr | $10 / channel |
| 11:31.11 | Zzzzzzzz | yeah but that's just a fee to use it ? |
| 11:31.18 | voidptr | yes |
| 11:31.26 | voidptr | afaik, it binary only |
| 11:31.40 | voidptr | and as a friend i strongly recommend against it :P |
| 11:31.49 | Zzzzzzzz | i thought it was very clean? |
| 11:31.52 | Zzzzzzzz | i just want it for testing right now |
| 11:32.21 | voidptr | i guess it works... and i use it on gentoo |
| 11:32.36 | voidptr | although, if you are not really a "frequent" linux user... you might not like it |
| 11:32.46 | voidptr | "an everyday geek" i mean :) |
| 11:33.30 | Zzzzzzzz | well, i have used unix and bsd for 12 years, but i'm really much too comfortable with the nice features that you get with openbsd like an install script to want to try gentoo :) |
| 11:33.57 | voidptr | ugh obsd |
| 11:34.00 | voidptr | :P |
| 11:34.14 | Zzzzzzzz | i mean, i've written my own install scripts for it, i understand how the programs work, i just don't want to have to re-learn it for a distribution that i want to use only one program with (Asterisk) |
| 11:34.56 | voidptr | afaik, * works with openbsd... |
| 11:34.59 | Zzzzzzzz | shit, asterisk cvs runs on openbsd, but there's no t1/fxo/fxs drivers yet |
| 11:35.04 | voidptr | aslong as you don't use the hardware... |
| 11:35.07 | Zzzzzzzz | yeah |
| 11:35.12 | voidptr | (or the binary codec probably) |
| 11:35.21 | Zzzzzzzz | i just got a butt load of intel win modems to put together a few test boxes with |
| 11:35.24 | coppice__ | G.729 and free are mutually incompatible, due to patents which run out in something like 2018 |
| 11:35.37 | Zzzzzzzz | i have a cisco ata186 and i'm gonna get a few sipura spa-2000's |
| 11:35.39 | voidptr | thats long... |
| 11:35.59 | Zzzzzzzz | i'm looking into this for eventual implementation in a commercial environment |
| 11:36.01 | voidptr | how long are patents? 25, 30 years? |
| 11:36.05 | Zzzzzzzz | 17 years |
| 11:36.25 | coppice__ | 20 years in the US. Some of the G.729 ones are suprisingly recent. |
| 11:36.25 | Zzzzzzzz | so, being a commercial user, i will want g.729, it's basically the current standard |
| 11:36.35 | Zzzzzzzz | no it's 17 years in the US last i heard |
| 11:36.52 | coppice__ | G.729 is only the standard in the minds of the patent holders. |
| 11:37.10 | voidptr | and these patents are also in europe? |
| 11:37.12 | Zzzzzzzz | but for now i just want to put together a few pbx systems to tie together a few homes and calling areas :) |
| 11:37.36 | voidptr | (yeah i have 0-clue about these things... i kinda skipped legal rights class... :S ) |
| 11:37.38 | coppice__ | I think its 17 from grant or 20 from filing, whichever is longer. not sure though. Its 20 under some circumstances, I know |
| 11:37.43 | Zzzzzzzz | ok, what are the best codecs right now? and where goes g.729 rate in between ? |
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| 11:38.21 | coppice__ | G.723 is certainly no longer in the running. Dead is a reasonably accurate description :-) |
| 11:38.42 | voidptr | hehe |
| 11:39.38 | coppice__ | voidptr: G.729 is patented everywhere. Why would Europe be an exception? |
| 11:39.41 | Zzzzzzzz | dead because it sucks or the patent holders are too greedy or what ? |
| 11:39.58 | coppice__ | Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz: time has passed it by |
| 11:40.16 | Zzzzzzzz | Software algorythms are/were not patentable in Europe |
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| 11:40.46 | coppice__ | Zzzzzzzzzzzz: who is talking about software algorithims. We are talking about a codec |
| 11:40.57 | Zzzzzzzz | ok so what should i use? g.711 Xyz-law ???????? |
| 11:41.18 | voidptr | coppice__ : i dunno, since "we" talked about US patents i thought... well never mind :) |
| 11:41.32 | voidptr | i shouldn't think... yet |
| 11:41.33 | voidptr | :P |
| 11:42.09 | coppice__ | voiptr: US patents are the longest, so they are important as far as expiration is concerned. Codecs are patented everywhere, though |
| 11:42.54 | Zzzzzzzz | what codecs are you using for VoIP? |
| 11:43.53 | voidptr | gsm, g711 seem to be the "least trouble" codecs... although most people really don't like them |
| 11:44.23 | coppice__ | what's wrong with the GSM codec? Its not the best, but its pretty good. |
| 11:45.14 | voidptr | yeah its good |
| 11:45.34 | voidptr | just some phones don't support them i guess |
| 11:45.40 | voidptr | s/them/it/ |
| 11:47.03 | Zzzzzzzz | what's the diff between alaw and mu-law ? |
| 11:47.22 | coppice__ | That is the area where G.729 scores. Some form of G.729 implementation exists on almost everything (lucky patent holders :-( ), although they are not always totally compatible. |
| 11:47.29 | coppice__ | a ->u :-) |
| 11:48.44 | coppice__ | alaw and ulaw are functionally similar, but incompatible. Use either. |
| 11:49.31 | voidptr | you are right coppice__ that "whoever" does crypto first digs through every detail of srtp... :P |
| 11:54.34 | Zzzzzzzz | does anyone use or support g.726 other than sipura ? |
| 11:55.03 | Zzzzzzzz | what about lpc10, speex, adpcm? |
| 11:57.26 | voidptr | those 3 are supported, and also ilbc (which is favoured by some people for its quality) |
| 11:57.58 | voidptr | and other people like speex for echo cancellation in the speex library (or something like that) |
| 11:58.04 | Zzzzzzzz | do people commonly use ilbc for IAX links ? |
| 11:58.58 | voidptr | yes |
| 11:59.30 | Zzzzzzzz | is echo cancellation part of * in a generic form ? |
| 12:00.04 | voidptr | in the hardware (zaptel) |
| 12:00.08 | voidptr | but |
| 12:00.25 | voidptr | its in the drivers... so basicly its software (cpu) echo cancel. |
| 12:00.41 | voidptr | bbl, lunch |
| 12:00.47 | Zzzzzzzz | hmm...don't the intel chips have dsps? |
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| 12:19.38 | sxpert_avignon | good afternoon all :D |
| 12:21.07 | coppice__ | ~castrate RoyK |
| 12:21.10 | | RoyK: say AAAAAAAAAAAARRGGH! |
| 12:21.19 | sxpert_avignon | lol |
| 12:25.17 | RoyK | :) |
| 13:11.31 | voidptr | *poof* |
| 13:15.23 | RoyK | ~poof voidptr |
| 13:26.39 | voidptr | yeah, thats what i thought |
| 13:26.40 | voidptr | :P |
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| 13:50.49 | coppice | voidptr: What is a standard? What people use mostly, or what people document? :-) |
| 13:53.35 | voidptr | good question |
| 13:54.29 | coppice | there are shelves full of "standards" that not a single person has ever implemented. |
| 13:54.45 | voidptr | any clue if avaya's crypto uses srtp or its own implementation (i think the last since they hacked into h323) |
| 13:56.38 | voidptr | http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/avt/current/msg01726.html |
| 13:56.41 | voidptr | also interesting |
| 13:56.44 | coppice | voidptr: no idea. SRTP only encrypts RTP (I bet you learned something suprising there :-) ). I expect they use that. However, I don't know of any standard for encrypting the signalling, if you wish to do that. |
| 13:58.12 | voidptr | if i search for it i get mixed results all of doubtable quality... ;) |
| 13:59.41 | voidptr | Another alternative could be padding of the cipher block following the output of each codec frame to avoid additional delay, but this would reduce the bandwidth efficiency of the implementation, and would be misleading in terms of the cryptographic strength as a function of block size. |
| 13:59.45 | voidptr | hummm |
| 13:59.52 | coppice | I have no idea what the guy in that message is on about. You can't do stream cipher on a lossy link. The SRTP stuff I've seen just lives with the data it has, and gets on with sending. The ciphers are chosen around that limitation. |
| 14:00.24 | voidptr | yes |
| 14:01.07 | coppice | people keep acting like streaming audio/video is a TCP-like stream - i.e. reliable! |
| 14:01.13 | voidptr | "everyone" uses block ciphers, so that discussion is "over" as far as i am concerned... i would live with padding |
| 14:01.53 | voidptr | although the guy has a point... you probably know what codec a link uses... so you know the amount of padding... hummm |
| 14:02.12 | coppice | You pad with random data. |
| 14:02.26 | voidptr | seems like a big hit on the entropy ;) |
| 14:02.40 | coppice | why? |
| 14:02.44 | voidptr | well, not needed to be "ultra-random" i guess :) |
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| 14:03.28 | coppice | As long as it varies a lot, it will get encrypted, decrypted and thrown away looking pretty real data like |
| 14:04.19 | voidptr | and as long as it is random... no cleartext attacks can be used on that part either... |
| 14:04.29 | coppice | as long as its seeded well enough to stop people knowing the sequence of data in the padding, it seems OK to this DSP expert (i.e. not a cipher expert) |
| 14:05.54 | voidptr | that doesn't matter, if it isn't correct someone will stand up and shoot at "us" |
| 14:06.02 | dant | pad with music? |
| 14:06.38 | coppice | dant: if its pop, it could be too repetitive :-) |
| 14:06.55 | voidptr | hehe :) |
| 14:06.58 | dant | hehe |
| 14:07.59 | coppice | pad with press releases from SCO. They should be meaningless and unpredictable enough. |
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| 14:11.22 | Corydon76-home | Good morning |
| 14:11.33 | voidptr | lol |
| 14:11.39 | voidptr | morning Corydon76 |
| 14:12.29 | Corydon76-home | Hmmm, patches for Christmas... :-) |
| 14:13.44 | Corydon76-home | Hey, wow... someone came online with an IPv6 address... |
| 14:14.16 | voidptr | coppice : it seems that with cbc or ctr (aes) padding is not crucial (always better ofcourse) |
| 14:14.53 | voidptr | the problem with using cbc or ctr was that... if you lose 1 block... then next block can't be decrypted.. and the next one can... |
| 14:14.54 | coppice | you can't use chained blocks if you have packet loss (unless I am missing something) |
| 14:15.04 | voidptr | exactly :P |
| 14:15.14 | Corydon76-home | If you're looking an encrypting a voice stream, take a look at openvpn... see how they're doing it... |
| 14:15.22 | voidptr | so it would double the effect of packet loss |
| 14:15.43 | Corydon76-home | because they're sending an IP stream over UDP... |
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| 14:16.33 | voidptr | openvpn isn't specifically designed to deal with realtime issues |
| 14:17.09 | Corydon76-home | That may be true... but I have had conversations that were carried across an openvpn tunnel |
| 14:17.09 | coppice | SRTP is probably a better model to look at, as it is solving exactly the same problem IAX needs to. |
| 14:17.45 | voidptr | coppice : i only know that cbc just recovers after 1 bad block... not sure about ctr... (never played with ctr.. but i guess its the same) |
| 14:18.17 | coppice | I've had conversations with drunks on the metro, but these were not *good* conversations :-) |
| 14:18.22 | Corydon76-home | Is SRTP using RTP packets? |
| 14:18.37 | voidptr | lol |
| 14:18.49 | coppice | Of course. Its a crypto addon for RTP |
| 14:19.03 | voidptr | well, drunks don't seem to like me |
| 14:19.07 | voidptr | not much of a talker |
| 14:19.20 | Corydon76-home | Well, RTP packets lose the niceness of a single port through firewalls |
| 14:19.28 | voidptr | drunk people usually don't share any of my interests :P |
| 14:19.47 | coppice | RTP packets loose the niceness of a sane protocol! |
| 14:19.52 | voidptr | :D |
| 14:20.04 | Corydon76-home | I'm sure I share some of your interests... |
| 14:20.08 | voidptr | its the idea that counts.. encrypting udp packets with voice data |
| 14:20.10 | coppice | I never drink alcohol, so they share *very* few of mine! |
| 14:20.26 | voidptr | ehm |
| 14:20.34 | voidptr | encrypting voice data in udp packets |
| 14:20.43 | coppice | Hey, we've got the idea. Its the implementation that count now. |
| 14:20.57 | voidptr | true |
| 14:21.17 | Corydon76-home | So, are one of y'all volunteering to write the code? |
| 14:21.17 | voidptr | sorry but i can't find that retarded srtp draft on ietf |
| 14:21.51 | voidptr | i've been writing proof of concepts for it a while ago... |
| 14:22.30 | voidptr | lets just say it would be nice to combine the development of such a thing together with an endpoint device |
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| 14:22.33 | coppice | well, I'm getting iaxcomm ready for a PDA, so crypto would be nice for that. Lets hope someone gets it ready for me :-) |
| 14:22.42 | voidptr | so it doesn't become a "vpn" substitute |
| 14:22.58 | voidptr | heh |
| 14:23.43 | coppice | look at srtp.sourceforge.net and work from there |
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| 14:24.49 | voidptr | coppice : the first thing i bump into is... protocol |
| 14:25.19 | coppice | eh? what? pardon? |
| 14:25.35 | voidptr | how do you integrate it into the existing protocol |
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| 14:25.56 | loko-moko | Anyone use stamps.com ? |
| 14:26.00 | voidptr | with iax its not really nice to make a layer below iax... (like srtp is) |
| 14:26.03 | Corydon76-home | Well, you should probably use an alternate port, first of all |
| 14:26.12 | voidptr | it should be integrated.. (imho) |
| 14:26.38 | Corydon76-home | Prevent the mixing of non-encrypted and encrypted packets |
| 14:27.33 | coppice | srtp is essentially integrated, as it modifies the RTP headers. What I think you can take from SRTP is not the details, but the structurals issues of how to apply ciphering to a real time lossy stream. |
| 14:27.52 | voidptr | yes |
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| 14:30.31 | Corydon76-home | Oh, goodie. CVS appears to be broken this morning... some new files... aescrypt.c... |
| 14:30.42 | voidptr | ah great :P |
| 14:30.44 | af_ | merry christamas to all |
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| 14:31.44 | voidptr | merry xmas |
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| 14:39.18 | mrRegev | hi everybody, i have an important question about the memory management of the agi executables, when the call is disconnected during an agi proccess, what happenes to the memory allocated by it? and maybe even its database connections? |
| 14:39.33 | *** join/#asterisk tim27 (tim27@229-29.dr.cgocable.ca) |
| 14:40.11 | Corydon76-home | Because an AGI runs as a separate process, memory allocated when it exits should be automatically cleaned up by the kernel. |
| 14:40.55 | mrRegev | ooohhh gr8, kill process clears all memory allocations? |
| 14:41.08 | voidptr | thank god yes |
| 14:41.10 | voidptr | its not windows |
| 14:41.10 | voidptr | ;) |
| 14:41.12 | Corydon76-home | It better, or there's a serious kernel bug |
| 14:42.40 | Corydon76-home | Otherwise, a kernel killing a process because it consumed too much memory wouldn't do very much, would it? |
| 14:44.11 | sxpert_avignon | lol |
| 14:44.36 | voidptr | As Elisabetta stated, there is no single key management protocol for SRTP. We expect that a number of them will be needed owing to the diversity of SRTP applications. So the data security protocol is uncoupled from the key management protocol, like IPsec but unlike SSL. |
| 14:44.36 | mrRegev | ok thanks alot |
| 14:44.47 | mrRegev | what about database connections? |
| 14:45.01 | voidptr | ok... that plainly sucks |
| 14:45.03 | voidptr | :P |
| 14:45.38 | Corydon76-home | Your process should clean up after itself, as best it can. Otherwise, the normal rules about hanging database rules apply |
| 14:46.01 | Corydon76-home | hanging database handles |
| 14:46.31 | mrRegev | yeah but my proccess can close the connection if its killed while the connection is open |
| 14:46.48 | Corydon76-home | The database should eventually timeout the handle and close the connection, deallocating resources |
| 14:47.16 | Corydon76-home | Your process can intercept the signal sent and do cleanup |
| 14:47.59 | mrRegev | thats even better :) i should read more about developing on linux probably |
| 14:48.02 | *** join/#asterisk tim27 (tim27@229-29.dr.cgocable.ca) |
| 14:50.04 | Corydon76-home | Just intercept the SIGHUP signal and do your database cleanup in the signal handler. |
| 14:50.25 | mrRegev | ok thanks alot for your help |
| 14:51.57 | loko-moko | Has anyone setup their own voip gateway using PRIs and care to talk to me about how they did it |
| 14:52.31 | Corydon76-home | If you want a good reference for programming on Unix/Linux, might I suggest _Advanced_Programming_in_the_Unix_Environment_ by W Richard Stevens |
| 14:53.14 | *** part/#asterisk quoc (quoc@h-64-105-65-235.PHNDAZ91.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 14:53.24 | mrRegev | yeah that will be gr8, i'm searching for it right now |
| 14:53.27 | Corydon76-home | It is, by far, the best text out there for programming in C on Unix |
| 14:55.54 | mrRegev | ok thanks again |
| 14:59.32 | mrRegev | quite a book :) 65$ |
| 15:00.32 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, it's also 2 inches thick |
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| 15:13.47 | voidptr | why would one want to protect voice against replay attacks... :P |
| 15:13.54 | voidptr | oh well |
| 15:15.22 | voidptr | (thank god for timestamps) :) |
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| 15:19.00 | voidptr | i see ^M's :P |
| 15:20.33 | tim27 | who can help me installing image on 79xx phone... i had tftp installed |
| 15:24.07 | rajo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:24.12 | rajo | oops :) |
| 15:26.57 | voidptr | lets just say that ietf drafts are not exactly flawless |
| 15:27.00 | voidptr | :P |
| 15:29.40 | tim27 | who can help me to install sip image on 79xx phone |
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| 15:30.25 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o angler_] by bkw_ |
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| 15:34.20 | mrRegev | another small question , can i create a dynamic conf rooms? not configured in meetme.conf? |
| 15:35.46 | voidptr | I guess not, only by changing meetme.conf and executing asterisk -rx reload |
| 15:37.46 | mrRegev | mmmm ok , so i'll have to make some special rooms ready to use anytime |
| 15:37.49 | mrRegev | thanks |
| 15:41.30 | Corydon76-home | Well, if he stuck around, he'd know you have to restart to get new conference rooms |
| 15:42.43 | voidptr | hehe ok :P |
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| 15:46.32 | *** join/#asterisk tim27 (tim27@229-29.dr.cgocable.ca) |
| 15:47.02 | tim27 | i cant enter the ip of my tftp server in the phone or in the web interface... the phone dont ask for password |
| 15:47.14 | tim27 | cisco 7905 phone |
| 15:47.46 | *** join/#asterisk dreamtime (~dreamtime@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 15:48.01 | dant | tim27, you unlock the config? |
| 15:48.13 | dreamtime | Hello |
| 15:48.29 | dreamtime | I am looking for information on Asterisk. Is this the right place? |
| 15:48.41 | tim27 | dant how you do this ??? |
| 15:48.43 | dant | tim, or tried setting tftp server in dhcp |
| 15:49.00 | dant | tim27, not sure on the 7905, on the 7960, it's one of the options in the config menu |
| 15:49.14 | tim27 | i enter the tftp ip address in the web page of the phone... but i dont keep it |
| 15:49.34 | dant | dreamtime, yep... or the webpages... |
| 15:49.53 | tim27 | network configuration have a look symbol |
| 15:49.57 | tim27 | lock |
| 15:50.00 | dant | yep |
| 15:50.05 | tim27 | so i supposed it not unlocked |
| 15:50.06 | tim27 | :( |
| 15:50.07 | dant | there's an unlock option on the mnu |
| 15:50.21 | dant | menu |
| 15:50.37 | tim27 | menu - 3 settings |
| 15:50.41 | tim27 | in setting |
| 15:50.43 | tim27 | i just have |
| 15:50.45 | dreamtime | Ok. I am setting up two offices and need to get a PBX system. But I'm looking at SIP softphones and virtual pbx. Can ASterisk handle this? |
| 15:50.55 | rajo | tim27: type **#** on the keypad. then it should be unlocked |
| 15:50.57 | dant | dreamtime, yep |
| 15:50.59 | dreamtime | I'd rather do something a bit cool. |
| 15:51.00 | voidptr | dreamtime : sure |
| 15:51.03 | dreamtime | Rather than the same old same old. |
| 15:51.03 | dreamtime | :) |
| 15:51.07 | tim27 | contrast, ring type, network configuration |
| 15:51.13 | tim27 | rajo: let me try this |
| 15:51.21 | dant | rajo, thanks, I'd forgotten that on the skinny image |
| 15:51.26 | *** join/#asterisk roKerA (~root@dsl-200-67-189-213.prod-infinitum.com.mx) |
| 15:51.30 | dreamtime | We usually use Freebsd as our office server |
| 15:51.33 | tim27 | rajo this reseted the phone :) |
| 15:51.43 | dreamtime | Or we can use linux. |
| 15:51.51 | dreamtime | CAn we use freebsd? |
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| 15:51.59 | dant | **#** is reset, **# in the settings menu will unlock afaik |
| 15:51.59 | voidptr | dreamtime : yes, if you use voip only |
| 15:52.06 | tim27 | rajo: the network configuration have a lock symbol :( |
| 15:52.13 | dreamtime | Two main questions. |
| 15:52.21 | voidptr | dreamtime : hardware will not work though (digium.com) zaptel stuff |
| 15:52.56 | dreamtime | 1. Outgoing calls - If we use the sip soft phones through USB to computer station, can we route calls out through our own h323 gateway? |
| 15:53.17 | dant | tim27, is the phone not picking up the tftp server setting from dhcp? |
| 15:53.42 | dreamtime | 2. For incoming calls, how do we handle that with this system? Meaning, local callers call the local number and I need it to ring into the auto-attendant at the unix server. Then transfer to an extension depending on # ext that is clicked. |
| 15:53.44 | dreamtime | Is this possible? |
| 15:53.53 | rajo | tim27: ah - sorry; **#** is reset. unlock is **# |
| 15:54.00 | dant | dreamtime, yes, in theory, as long as the h323 gateway has a reasonably standard h323 implementation |
| 15:54.06 | Tekati | Is there a way to make the console messages appear with a timestamp? |
| 15:54.10 | dreamtime | WE use Quintum. |
| 15:54.19 | dreamtime | For outgoing through our service. |
| 15:54.19 | voidptr | dreamtime : what kind of incoming line do you have? |
| 15:54.34 | dreamtime | Incoming is two isdn channels. Total of 4 lines to start |
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| 15:55.13 | dant | Tekati, nice idea, is /var/log/asterisk/messages not enough? |
| 15:55.16 | voidptr | then you need linux, asterisk and zapbri... (www.junghanns.net) |
| 15:55.26 | tim27 | dant: dont seem to |
| 15:55.31 | voidptr | although the last thing is still under development :) |
| 15:55.43 | dreamtime | you mean www.junghanns.net is under development? |
| 15:55.57 | voidptr | the zapbri card, not the website |
| 15:55.57 | voidptr | :) |
| 15:56.09 | voidptr | http://www.junghanns.net/asterisk/page17.html |
| 15:56.20 | dreamtime | Its in german. Can't read a thing. |
| 15:56.45 | dreamtime | The zapbri card does what exactly? |
| 15:56.48 | *** join/#asterisk levon (~levon@mail.feature-it.de) |
| 15:56.51 | dant | dreamtime, german? |
| 15:57.00 | dant | that page is a picture |
| 15:57.11 | voidptr | dreamtime : you can use 4 isdn lines in that card |
| 15:57.31 | voidptr | so 2 incoming, and you could place 4 isdn phones on the remaining 2 ports |
| 15:57.40 | Tekati | dant: Not enought detail. I get a lot more information from the console and things like registrations do not show up in messages. Failed registrations do though but I have issues with unregistering and reregistering. |
| 15:57.50 | levon | meep meep |
| 15:57.53 | levon | hiya void |
| 15:57.54 | voidptr | hey levon |
| 15:57.57 | voidptr | merry xmas :P |
| 15:58.04 | Unix-Zzzz | ok almost a foot of snow over night |
| 15:58.05 | dreamtime | 4 isdn lines in the card for a total of 8 incoming phone calls. Right? |
| 15:58.06 | levon | thanks, 2u2 ;) |
| 15:58.12 | Unix-Zzzz | wow its a white xmas |
| 15:58.21 | voidptr | dreamtime : yeah |
| 15:58.29 | levon | gray xmas here ;) |
| 15:58.32 | dreamtime | Cool. How much is the hardware card? |
| 15:58.53 | levon | void, you're advertizing for quadBRI? ;) |
| 15:58.55 | tim27 | rajo: seem to work now |
| 15:59.07 | voidptr | dreamtime : but the card can have each port function for incoming lines (te) or for phones.. (nt) |
| 15:59.25 | tim27 | but it try to open 10.1.200.250 (i think this is the cm ip adresss... cm will be my asterisk box adress ??? |
| 15:59.30 | voidptr | dreamtime : i don't know exactly, and its not exactly finished yet |
| 15:59.42 | dreamtime | Can we beta test it? |
| 15:59.49 | voidptr | you can |
| 16:00.00 | voidptr | i am not affiliated with it though |
| 16:00.15 | dreamtime | Maybe its better if we just get an E1 instead of an isdn channel setup? Might that be easier? |
| 16:00.16 | voidptr | nor do i claim responsibility if anything goes wrong! :P |
| 16:00.34 | dreamtime | So that card will process the incoming calls to our softphones? |
| 16:00.34 | dant | tim27, is it trying to contact the tftp server? |
| 16:00.35 | voidptr | that works, but its a lot more expensive |
| 16:00.48 | dreamtime | Ah. E1 card is more money than isdn cards? |
| 16:00.54 | voidptr | dreamtime : maybe you can get a partial E1 |
| 16:00.58 | dant | minimum 8/10/12 channels on PRI normally |
| 16:00.59 | tim27 | i think it downloaded the tftp server |
| 16:01.04 | dreamtime | Partial E1 card? |
| 16:01.10 | tim27 | because know he ask for password |
| 16:01.11 | voidptr | dreamtime : no partial E1 line... |
| 16:01.12 | dreamtime | 10-15 channels is min. |
| 16:01.24 | dreamtime | Right. Its not that bad actually for E1 where I'm at. |
| 16:01.27 | tim27 | but i putted the default file on the tftp server |
| 16:01.29 | voidptr | in holland we can isdn15, isdn20 and isdn30... |
| 16:01.34 | tim27 | maybe will need to do one for me |
| 16:01.37 | dreamtime | right. Same here. |
| 16:01.45 | dant | tim27, what have you got on the tftp server? |
| 16:01.48 | dreamtime | What about the auto-attendant? |
| 16:02.01 | voidptr | that is easy :) |
| 16:02.08 | dreamtime | "thank you for calling, press 1 for sales, 2 for support, 3 for whatever" |
| 16:02.20 | dreamtime | And routing the call to the proper softphone station?? |
| 16:02.24 | voidptr | www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf |
| 16:02.27 | voidptr | sure |
| 16:02.29 | voidptr | no problem |
| 16:02.36 | dreamtime | no way! |
| 16:02.36 | dant | dreamtime, look at the demo config for a pre configured auto-attendant |
| 16:02.45 | tim27 | i putted all the zip file unziped on the tftp server |
| 16:02.56 | tim27 | i have to make change by the web interface now |
| 16:03.00 | dant | tim27, which is what exactly? |
| 16:03.17 | dreamtime | demo config in the pdf doc? |
| 16:03.25 | dant | dreamtime, nope... |
| 16:03.36 | tim27 | sbin for 7905 zup for 7905 |
| 16:03.45 | tim27 | and others tools |
| 16:03.45 | voidptr | dreamtime : no, but in the pdf are some examples... which illustrate possibilities |
| 16:03.58 | dant | sbin and zup? |
| 16:04.07 | tim27 | binary file of the image |
| 16:04.07 | tim27 | yes |
| 16:04.19 | tim27 | i think the phone download this |
| 16:04.36 | tim27 | call manager1 is the adress of the asterisk box... ?? |
| 16:04.38 | dant | tim27, you need more in there than the image... the phone isn't downloading it if there is only the image there |
| 16:05.04 | dant | tim27, only if you want to use skinny, you want SIP though don't you? |
| 16:05.24 | tim27 | thoses are already sip image |
| 16:05.34 | tim27 | you want to see the zip files ??? |
| 16:05.37 | dant | dreamtime, the best way to evaluate asterisk, is to setup a linux box, slap asterisk on and have a play |
| 16:05.44 | dant | tim27, the phone is not on the sip image |
| 16:07.15 | tim27 | there is utility to make image... and also default image |
| 16:08.22 | dreamtime | Ok. Where can I download it and check it out? |
| 16:08.31 | dant | www.asterisk.org |
| 16:08.38 | dreamtime | thanks |
| 16:08.40 | dant | np |
| 16:09.02 | dreamtime | how is the voice quality on a fast linux server for the auto-attendant? |
| 16:10.02 | dant | perfect from my experience |
| 16:10.40 | dreamtime | So its a better choice than these really expensive hardware based auto-attendants? They charge like $1000 for 2-4 ports. |
| 16:11.04 | dreamtime | How many ports does the asterisk handle? Or is it not a function of ports since its a linux server? |
| 16:11.21 | tim27 | rajo: the call manager address is the asterisk box ip adress ??? |
| 16:11.40 | rajo | tim27: yep. what exactly do you want to do? |
| 16:11.58 | rajo | tim27: do you want to run the 7905 with skinny on * ? |
| 16:12.45 | dant | rajo, he wants to run SIP, but he's having issues with tftp etc |
| 16:12.50 | rajo | ah |
| 16:12.51 | dreamtime | has anyone set up asterisk using softphones? |
| 16:13.15 | tim27 | want to use sip on 7905 to connect to my asterisk box |
| 16:13.32 | tim27 | bkw send me a zip file with sip for 7905 |
| 16:13.37 | dreamtime | I have sip softphone and can try |
| 16:14.20 | dant | dreamtime, I've got x-lite running on my laptop |
| 16:14.28 | dreamtime | I have x-ten |
| 16:14.41 | tim27 | i think the phone downloaded the default image from the zip file... on the tftp server |
| 16:14.42 | dreamtime | IS that the same thing? I havent actually talked with someone yet! I'd like to try though. |
| 16:15.38 | dant | dreamtime, x-lite is the x-ten free softphone |
| 16:16.14 | tim27 | rajo: |
| 16:16.36 | tim27 | my 7905 download from the tftp server iddefault.cfg |
| 16:16.46 | tim27 | and requested for |
| 16:16.59 | tim27 | sep000d65aoecd4.cnf.xml |
| 16:17.07 | tim27 | xlmdefault.cnf.xml |
| 16:17.13 | tim27 | sepdeafault.cnf |
| 16:17.27 | tim27 | id000d65a0ecd4 |
| 16:17.39 | tim27 | all thoses files was not on my tftp servr |
| 16:18.00 | tim27 | it just dowloded the iddefault.cfg |
| 16:18.52 | tim27 | any know what is wrong ??? |
| 16:19.05 | dreamtime | ok. what do I do now? |
| 16:19.07 | dreamtime | :) |
| 16:19.27 | rajo | tim27: hmm... looking. was a bit tricky on the 7905. has been a while that I've done it ;) |
| 16:19.58 | dreamtime | 7905 is offline |
| 16:20.01 | tim27 | rajo: you ever dont it with a 7905 ??? :) |
| 16:20.04 | dreamtime | according to the message. |
| 16:20.30 | RoyK | ~castrate levon |
| 16:20.33 | | levon: say AAAAAAAAAAAARRGGH! |
| 16:20.34 | rajo | tim27: yep. upgraded from skinny to sip a month ago or so |
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| 16:20.49 | tim27 | what is sep ??? |
| 16:20.58 | dant | dreamtime, what are you trying to do now? |
| 16:21.23 | dant | tim27, it's a config used by the skinny image... |
| 16:21.49 | tim27 | thoses phones seem to be hard to config |
| 16:23.04 | dant | tim27, can you get to this page? http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_administration_guide_chapter09186a00801b1b05.html#88656 |
| 16:23.20 | dreamtime | I wanted to either call you on the sip phone or connect to your asterisk pbx to check it out. |
| 16:23.36 | dreamtime | So I can test something out here. |
| 16:23.55 | dant | dreamtime, ahh |
| 16:24.02 | tim27 | let me check this |
| 16:24.37 | dant | dreamtime, the problem would be that you are not configured on my pbx :) |
| 16:24.43 | dreamtime | BTW, which softphone do you recommend? x-ten looks pretty good. |
| 16:24.46 | dreamtime | Oh. |
| 16:24.52 | dant | dreamtime, looks good yeah... |
| 16:25.17 | dant | dreamtime, don't know any other good looking SIP softphones... |
| 16:25.28 | dreamtime | So if I connect this softphone to the asterisk, and someone gets a voice mail, how does the user get notified? |
| 16:25.34 | dreamtime | Ok. |
| 16:25.37 | af_ | x-etn run on linux? |
| 16:25.44 | dant | af_, sorta |
| 16:25.52 | dreamtime | So you can route asterisk to whatever extension you want. right? |
| 16:25.56 | dant | af_, had it running in wine, doesn't exactly work tho |
| 16:26.09 | af_ | that's bad |
| 16:26.16 | dant | dreamtime, almost anything you can think of is possible... |
| 16:26.30 | dant | dreamtime, including routing calls anywhere you want |
| 16:26.55 | dreamtime | Sounds great. What is the problem with it then? There must be something wrong with it :) |
| 16:27.25 | dreamtime | Do you know anyone who has asterisk set up with 5 or more softphone stations in an office and using it for incoming calls? |
| 16:27.29 | dreamtime | Maybe I can talk to them? |
| 16:27.47 | dant | dreamtime, with power comes complexity... and as it's under quite heavy development, things keep changing, usually for the better, but... :) |
| 16:28.30 | dant | dreamtime, not sure about the softphone side of it, but lots of people in this channel with hardphones using SIP, same as the softphones... |
| 16:28.41 | dant | IP hardphones are nicer tho... |
| 16:30.27 | dreamtime | I see. |
| 16:30.39 | dreamtime | But IP hardphones are a bit expensive? How much are they? |
| 16:30.47 | dreamtime | Are you talking usb phones? |
| 16:31.02 | dreamtime | Or something like a cisco 7960? |
| 16:32.08 | voidptr | 7960 is one of the most expensive models around |
| 16:32.59 | voidptr | the 7905 or 7912 type models would be better, but their compatibility should be checked... |
| 16:33.14 | voidptr | (and their availability of sip firmware) |
| 16:33.28 | voidptr | then there are the grandstream and snom200 phones |
| 16:33.45 | voidptr | $65 and $200 |
| 16:34.29 | voidptr | there was a discussion on the ml about it yesterday (grandstream), i suggest you read it for more details |
| 16:37.15 | dreamtime | ML? |
| 16:37.16 | *** join/#asterisk scud (~scud@12-219-155-152.client.mchsi.com) |
| 16:37.22 | voidptr | mailing list |
| 16:37.25 | dreamtime | oh |
| 16:37.26 | dreamtime | Ok. |
| 16:37.30 | dreamtime | I'll get on it. |
| 16:37.35 | voidptr | well |
| 16:37.43 | voidptr | that won't get you yesterdays messages |
| 16:37.44 | voidptr | ;) |
| 16:37.49 | voidptr | google is your friend |
| 16:38.02 | scud | I LOVE THE TOPIC LIKE A GAY MAN LOVES ASS |
| 16:38.21 | voidptr | yah |
| 16:38.25 | scud | wait.... |
| 16:38.40 | angler_ | yea i think you got the wrong channel |
| 16:38.40 | dreamtime | in this forum? asterisk-users@lists.digium.com |
| 16:38.46 | voidptr | i love females ass |
| 16:38.49 | voidptr | :P |
| 16:38.54 | angler_ | hell yea |
| 16:39.20 | scud | if i wanna stick my weiner in a girl's tight asshole, does that make me gay |
| 16:39.44 | angler_ | haha |
| 16:39.46 | angler_ | maybe |
| 16:39.49 | voidptr | if you want her to shout like a guy... yes |
| 16:39.56 | angler_ | if you think of guys while doing that |
| 16:39.57 | scud | angler: only if she has a mustache, right? |
| 16:40.05 | angler_ | lol |
| 16:40.11 | boo | pretty gross |
| 16:40.29 | scud | boo: not if you dont get poo on your weiner |
| 16:41.08 | scud | i've wanted to do hmm what is it called. |
| 16:41.17 | scud | gitrl gives you head while you're takin a dump |
| 16:41.31 | voidptr | hum |
| 16:41.35 | angler_ | hahahaha |
| 16:41.49 | scud | that would be bliss |
| 16:42.21 | scud | releasing two things at once |
| 16:43.31 | Unix-Zzzz | is there ever going to be a release ver of * or will it always be a cvsup ? |
| 16:43.38 | Unix-Zzzz | cvs project |
| 16:43.47 | *** kick/#asterisk [scud!~angler@24.214.255.57] by angler_ (we don't like your kind around here) |
| 16:43.48 | *** join/#asterisk scud (~scud@12-219-155-152.client.mchsi.com) |
| 16:43.53 | voidptr | welll |
| 16:44.09 | voidptr | mark is working towards 1.0 |
| 16:44.11 | voidptr | :) |
| 16:44.14 | scud | angler: i know where you live and work |
| 16:44.20 | *** mode/#asterisk [+b *!*@*.client.mchsi.com] by angler_ |
| 16:44.21 | *** kick/#asterisk [scud!~angler@24.214.255.57] by angler_ (angler_) |
| 16:44.34 | voidptr | the development and bugfixing is going at highpace... so its not really smart to make releases |
| 16:44.35 | Tekati | THANK YOU! |
| 16:44.37 | *** join/#asterisk fred1 (~fred@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 16:44.41 | angler_ | :) |
| 16:44.46 | JerJer | smack 'em hard |
| 16:44.48 | voidptr | since, people use the releases |
| 16:44.51 | boo | thanks |
| 16:47.02 | JerJer | esp since most problems come from contrubuted patches |
| 16:47.35 | JerJer | *grumbles* about an H.323 patch I was getting pestered to apply, so I apply it and it seriously broke chan_h323 |
| 16:47.50 | voidptr | heh |
| 16:47.55 | voidptr | :) |
| 16:49.03 | doughecka | oooh |
| 16:49.09 | doughecka | a graphing calculator |
| 16:49.20 | voidptr | for xmas? ;) |
| 16:49.20 | *** join/#asterisk Jorgerai (~Jorgeraid@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 16:49.30 | doughecka | yep |
| 16:49.38 | doughecka | too bad I dont know how to use it |
| 16:49.40 | Unix-Dog | I just thinking companies would want a release ver thats stable before using it |
| 16:49.44 | doughecka | but it came with a usb cable |
| 16:49.49 | Jorgerai | hello to everybody and Feliz fin de ano!!!!!!! |
| 16:49.50 | voidptr | another thing you can throw in the corner |
| 16:49.53 | voidptr | :P |
| 16:50.06 | doughecka | ~x it en Feliz fin de ano!!!!!!! |
| 16:50.09 | Jorgerai | :p |
| 16:50.14 | doughecka | ehm |
| 16:50.19 | voidptr | Jorgerai : yeah same to you |
| 16:50.29 | Jorgerai | jaja thank |
| 16:50.38 | voidptr | ~x it en Feliz fin de anno |
| 16:50.51 | doughecka | aj |
| 16:50.51 | doughecka | ah |
| 16:51.08 | Jorgerai | you know that |
| 16:51.16 | doughecka | YO WASIM! |
| 16:51.19 | voidptr | wasim |
| 16:51.20 | voidptr | ! |
| 16:51.25 | voidptr | :P |
| 16:51.29 | doughecka | hows farfon/life/pk/etc? |
| 16:51.43 | wasim | pretty cool. someone tried to blow up our president again |
| 16:51.49 | doughecka | oh? |
| 16:51.55 | doughecka | tried? |
| 16:52.01 | Jorgerai | pase buen trabajo for buy the motherboard with 64 bit incluid |
| 16:52.03 | Jorgerai | :) |
| 16:52.04 | *** join/#asterisk sxpert (~sxpert@AMarseille-206-1-3-32.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:52.04 | doughecka | darn thing keeps missing |
| 16:52.10 | wasim | yeah, double suicide car bomb attempt |
| 16:52.10 | Jorgerai | but I got |
| 16:52.21 | doughecka | double car? |
| 16:52.22 | doughecka | wow |
| 16:52.42 | voidptr | heh |
| 16:53.19 | *** join/#asterisk atbrandt (~atbrandt_@pc141.torun.sdi.tpnet.pl) |
| 16:53.28 | doughecka | ARg |
| 16:53.30 | doughecka | stupid thing |
| 16:53.41 | *** join/#asterisk zwi (~zwi@216.88.131.43) |
| 16:55.25 | voidptr | firmware borked already? |
| 16:55.25 | voidptr | ;) |
| 16:55.37 | doughecka | no |
| 16:55.57 | doughecka | retarded thing pops the upgrade window above everything else, which means I hit enter while I was typing |
| 16:56.05 | doughecka | and canceled it |
| 16:56.14 | loko-moko | Has anyone setup their own voip gateway using PRIs and care to talk to me about how they did it (number of servers, how setup (cluster?), etc |
| 16:57.03 | bond | im drubnk |
| 16:57.12 | bond | merry xmas |
| 16:58.08 | doughecka | Microsoft Windows: from the people who brought you EDLIN. |
| 16:58.15 | doughecka | Microsoft Windows: It just keeps getting beta and beta... |
| 16:58.43 | Unix-Dog | XP = Extra Painfull |
| 16:58.59 | doughecka | ehe |
| 17:00.36 | Unix-Dog | it stoped snowing damnit |
| 17:01.35 | *** join/#asterisk Mike (~mike@dsl-200-67-40-148.prod-infinitum.com.mx) |
| 17:01.49 | doughecka | snow? |
| 17:01.56 | doughecka | its sun signing out today |
| 17:02.01 | doughecka | not a cloud in the sky |
| 17:02.02 | Mike | merry xmas |
| 17:02.03 | Mike | :) |
| 17:02.06 | doughecka | and its like <32 |
| 17:07.37 | *** join/#asterisk JerJer (~NunYoBizN@pppoe1333.grp.centurytel.net) |
| 17:10.26 | Unix-Dog | ok I need a mini-itx mb and a cdrom |
| 17:10.37 | Unix-Dog | drive |
| 17:10.55 | Unix-Dog | time to build a 2nd pbx server |
| 17:11.08 | Unix-Dog | then compress it to a cf drive |
| 17:13.00 | Unix-Dog | my nano-atx pbx is being reviewd |
| 17:13.51 | Unix-Dog | nano-itx |
| 17:14.06 | data[x-moose] | appy xmoose mr JerJer |
| 17:14.57 | doughecka | hah |
| 17:20.11 | bkw_ | lalalal |
| 17:20.31 | bkw_ | MERRY FUCKING CHRISTMAS! |
| 17:21.20 | af_ | lala |
| 17:21.22 | voidptr | well well |
| 17:21.29 | scott | watch the language bkw_!!! |
| 17:21.31 | zoa | hey af_ ! |
| 17:21.31 | zoa | :) |
| 17:21.35 | scott | it's fucking merry christmas |
| 17:21.46 | Mike | fucking spirit! |
| 17:21.47 | af_ | hi zoa, merry christamas |
| 17:21.53 | zoa | fucking mary will do fine |
| 17:22.29 | *** join/#asterisk rpb (~rpb@clt74-110-183.carolina.rr.com) |
| 17:22.48 | scott | k |
| 17:23.50 | af_ | ahahah |
| 17:26.16 | bkw_ | haha |
| 17:32.52 | *** part/#asterisk wasim (~wasim@217.149.110.144) |
| 17:34.53 | *** join/#asterisk wasim (~wasim@217.149.110.144) |
| 17:37.08 | doughecka | hey wasim |
| 17:39.29 | wasim | hi doughecka, i'm a moron |
| 17:40.08 | wasim | i closed the wrong windows :) |
| 17:40.52 | doughecka | hha |
| 17:40.54 | doughecka | ooh |
| 17:41.10 | doughecka | a x86 emulator for the TI-83... |
| 17:43.39 | *** join/#asterisk wotan (~irc@pD9E103F0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:48.44 | loko-moko | Is there any windows software to fax over voip? |
| 17:48.50 | loko-moko | send and receive |
| 17:48.53 | bkw_ | haha |
| 17:48.56 | bkw_ | you are a funny man |
| 17:49.14 | loko-moko | =P |
| 17:49.31 | boo | damnit |
| 17:49.34 | boo | this beef makes me mad |
| 17:49.38 | bkw_ | mary had a little lamb.. little lamb.. mary had a little lamb.. |
| 17:49.45 | bkw_ | boo mad cow eh? |
| 17:49.54 | loko-moko | ok is there an easy way to receive faxes over voip on linux and have them be emailed as an image |
| 17:49.55 | boo | yup |
| 17:50.07 | bkw_ | loko-moko t38 modem and hylafax |
| 17:50.10 | bkw_ | but thats h323 |
| 17:50.18 | loko-moko | t38? |
| 17:53.42 | bkw_ | go search for t38 modem |
| 17:59.13 | wasim | heya bkw_ |
| 17:59.43 | lecram | or use rxfax and some script magick |
| 17:59.57 | loko-moko | is it virtual or a hardware device |
| 18:00.18 | lecram | virtual |
| 18:00.24 | loko-moko | cool |
| 18:01.44 | lecram | but it's still beta, so the t38 sollution might work better |
| 18:02.21 | loko-moko | oh t38 is a physical device? |
| 18:02.32 | bkw_ | no |
| 18:02.35 | bkw_ | its software |
| 18:02.39 | lecram | either is software |
| 18:02.43 | loko-moko | oh ok |
| 18:02.45 | Unix-Dog | ok its snowing again |
| 18:02.49 | Unix-Dog | I am happy |
| 18:03.22 | loko-moko | bkw i bought some dell servers to use for *, dunno if im gonna get the PRI line |
| 18:04.21 | bkw_ | I have never had a white christmas |
| 18:04.27 | bkw_ | fucking oklahoma |
| 18:04.38 | bkw_ | but now we have had the after christmas disaster |
| 18:05.12 | loko-moko | heh |
| 18:05.16 | Unix-Dog | is it snowing Ok |
| 18:05.24 | lecram | what went wrong this time/ |
| 18:05.59 | wasim | lecram: t38 is a fax over ip protocol |
| 18:06.27 | wasim | err ... loko-moko |
| 18:06.39 | lecram | indeed it is :) |
| 18:06.55 | Unix-Dog | fax over internet is useless you can just email the document |
| 18:07.28 | wasim | but the good news, ma'am, is that we get the master test board back tomorrow or shortly thereafter |
| 18:07.59 | wasim | and if the layout and everything is ok, we should get the remaining 49 in a aweek or so |
| 18:08.10 | lecram | ma'am ? |
| 18:09.13 | wasim | silly me, i forgot we were all androgenous |
| 18:13.53 | *** join/#asterisk jelque (~jelque@adsl-65-71-151-219.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net) |
| 18:14.32 | Unix-Dog | voip will do away with faxing . just use email to send documents |
| 18:16.05 | boo | unfortunately... fax machines aren't going anywhere |
| 18:16.28 | learath | Unix-Dog: you wish |
| 18:17.15 | *** join/#asterisk Moc (~Moc@64.235.193.253) |
| 18:19.25 | Moc | Happy Holidays everyone .. |
| 18:23.38 | loko-moko | cant do "legal" signatures in email |
| 18:23.50 | loko-moko | easier to fax than to scan and then email |
| 18:24.27 | doughecka | hah |
| 18:24.59 | loko-moko | also |
| 18:25.03 | loko-moko | nufone =P |
| 18:25.06 | *** join/#asterisk km- (pgrace@virgil.fierymoon.com) |
| 18:25.10 | loko-moko | i have to fax them my 800 transfer\ |
| 18:25.17 | loko-moko | they wont allow me to attach it as a scanned file in email |
| 18:25.29 | loko-moko | so the probably even exists in here with voip providers =) |
| 18:25.46 | km- | talking about vonage? |
| 18:26.03 | loko-moko | no |
| 18:26.12 | loko-moko | [13:14:32] <Unix-Dog> voip will do away with faxing . just use email to send documents |
| 18:26.19 | loko-moko | talking about fax machines not going away |
| 18:26.24 | km- | ahh |
| 18:26.43 | boo | it's like saying computers will do away with typewriters |
| 18:26.53 | boo | people still use those damn things today |
| 18:26.57 | loko-moko | unix-dog - I really wish you were right though, email is usually alot easier and available in lot more places and cheaper |
| 18:27.06 | loko-moko | yea i just had to use a typewriter, it sucked |
| 18:27.24 | loko-moko | had to retype my thing like 5 times since i kept misspelling and couldnt fix it and make it look clean |
| 18:27.30 | boo | ick |
| 18:27.36 | loko-moko | ok i have to head into the office now |
| 18:27.37 | loko-moko | bbl |
| 18:29.42 | *** join/#asterisk decode (~decode@ip-wv-68-117-144-207.charterwv.net) |
| 18:30.33 | Unix-Dog | hey dont ruien my pipe dream ok |
| 18:30.36 | decode | any modules for * that allow retrieving customer information from a mysql db and sending it to another process through either a pipe, shm, or socket? I need to pass CRM info to terminals on a cyclades card.. fun, eh? |
| 18:30.39 | bkw_ | HAHA I got all the extra voices to work with festival |
| 18:30.44 | Unix-Dog | I can wish faxing would go away |
| 18:31.18 | Unix-Dog | bkw wow |
| 18:31.49 | decode | yea fax sucks... everyone uses their computers for fax anyways, so why not just send the stuff as a bloody email and get COLOUR images free? :) |
| 18:31.59 | km- | bkw: but what are you going to use festival for? |
| 18:32.01 | Unix-Dog | I am in the middle of building a new pbx box and will be trying festivl on it |
| 18:32.07 | bkw_ | the female voice is pretty good |
| 18:32.23 | Unix-Dog | what is the use of festival ? |
| 18:32.31 | decode | text to speech? :) |
| 18:32.32 | Unix-Dog | text to voice right |
| 18:32.35 | Unix-Dog | ok |
| 18:32.37 | km- | yeah |
| 18:32.42 | km- | but what's BRIAN going to use it for I'm asking |
| 18:32.43 | km- | :P |
| 18:32.56 | bkw_ | so it can read my email to me |
| 18:32.56 | bkw_ | haha |
| 18:33.04 | bkw_ | pop3.agi |
| 18:33.41 | decode | anyone have about 48 serial terminals preferably vt250 or some such that isn't yeucky amber or green phosphor? :) |
| 18:34.02 | rpb | What other color is there? |
| 18:34.07 | decode | white |
| 18:34.24 | decode | probably other funky colours too |
| 18:34.38 | decode | but the amber ones really friggin hurt my eyes and make me want to break them |
| 18:34.43 | Unix-Dog | why hwat you going to do woth them ? |
| 18:34.54 | km- | bkw: bah |
| 18:34.56 | km- | bkw: hehehe |
| 18:35.13 | Unix-Dog | I have only seen amber green white and blue |
| 18:35.27 | decode | blue?! |
| 18:35.57 | decode | i want blue! |
| 18:36.44 | Unix-Dog | what do yo plan to so with serial terminals |
| 18:36.53 | decode | Unix-Dog CRM stuff |
| 18:37.20 | decode | i think i read your question right... |
| 18:38.14 | Unix-Dog | its cheaper to build what you need then buy used ones |
| 18:38.29 | *** join/#asterisk zoa (~john@213.219.141.69) |
| 18:38.53 | Unix-Dog | just get a bunch of old 80 mhz pc and monitors and have them boot from a network floppy |
| 18:39.15 | km- | http://nfg.2y.net/games/ntsc/visual.shtm |
| 18:39.16 | km- | that's weird! |
| 18:39.51 | decode | Unix-Dog That's really not a good solution |
| 18:40.08 | decode | i already have 2 32port cyclades cards for one :) |
| 18:41.21 | Unix-Dog | hmm ok |
| 18:41.49 | Unix-Dog | its cheaper then serial terminals |
| 18:42.03 | Unix-Dog | most I have found they ask about 85 to 100 bucks |
| 18:42.32 | Unix-Dog | and for that price you can make your own with a p80 and a networkcard and a floppy |
| 18:43.08 | Unix-Dog | serial plug not network card |
| 18:43.18 | zoa | what are you talking about ? |
| 18:43.41 | Unix-Dog | serial terminals |
| 18:44.07 | Unix-Dog | aka dumb terminals |
| 18:44.11 | bkw_ | http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/mbrola/mbrcopybin.html |
| 18:44.25 | bkw_ | look at all the voices you can use with festival and mbrola |
| 18:44.28 | bkw_ | nice nice nie |
| 18:44.30 | bkw_ | er nice |
| 18:45.36 | scott | ew |
| 18:46.03 | Unix-Dog | thats alot of voices |
| 18:46.50 | Unix-Dog | nothing on tv but the bond marathon |
| 18:47.38 | bkw_ | you still have to write out the scm files so it works with festival |
| 18:47.49 | km- | bkw: but I'm sure you've made that happen huh |
| 18:48.42 | bkw_ | km- not really but i'm sure I can make it happen |
| 18:48.43 | km- | bkw: is mbrola better than festival? |
| 18:48.56 | bkw_ | mbrola is whats needed to use those voices with festival |
| 18:49.00 | km- | oh |
| 18:49.14 | bkw_ | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 160 Dec 25 12:06 don_diphone |
| 18:49.14 | bkw_ | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 120 Dec 25 12:47 en1_mbrola |
| 18:49.14 | bkw_ | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 120 Dec 25 12:06 kal_diphone |
| 18:49.14 | bkw_ | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 120 Dec 25 12:06 ked_diphone |
| 18:49.14 | bkw_ | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 120 Dec 25 12:06 rab_diphone |
| 18:49.15 | bkw_ | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 120 Dec 25 12:29 us1_mbrola |
| 18:49.17 | bkw_ | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 120 Dec 25 12:29 us2_mbrola |
| 18:49.19 | bkw_ | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 120 Dec 25 12:29 us3_mbrola |
| 18:49.23 | bkw_ | there are all the voices I have |
| 18:49.35 | bkw_ | rab and en1 sound about the same |
| 18:49.38 | bkw_ | us1 is female |
| 18:50.15 | km- | bkw: all you're doing this for is so you can have the system read you your e-mail? |
| 18:51.19 | bkw_ | yes en1 sounds the best |
| 18:58.20 | bkw_ | Executing Festival("SIP/10-73b9", "And fuck you too.") in new stack |
| 18:59.43 | km- | bkw: I'm interested -- how do I get mbrola to talk to festival nicely? |
| 19:00.12 | bkw_ | it just happens |
| 19:00.17 | bkw_ | don't put thought into it |
| 19:00.19 | km- | mbrola has to be in the path? |
| 19:00.26 | bkw_ | yes |
| 19:00.50 | km- | and the voices need to be in /usr/lib/festival/voices? |
| 19:00.59 | bkw_ | voices/english |
| 19:00.59 | bkw_ | yes |
| 19:01.02 | *** join/#asterisk bwz (~w_w_zhang@24-205-146-52.mpk-mres.charterpipeline.net) |
| 19:01.05 | bkw_ | using gentoo? |
| 19:01.09 | bkw_ | it installs all this for you |
| 19:01.13 | km- | no |
| 19:01.14 | km- | debian |
| 19:01.18 | km- | I was downloading manuaally |
| 19:01.18 | bkw_ | except for the festival patch.. which I added to the ebuild |
| 19:01.24 | bkw_ | oh lord give up now |
| 19:01.24 | km- | maybe there's a mbrola package |
| 19:01.40 | bkw_ | angler you're a ho! |
| 19:01.47 | km- | ah |
| 19:01.52 | km- | it just magically "works" if you use gentoo huh |
| 19:02.24 | bkw_ | yep :P |
| 19:02.36 | bkw_ | I had to manually do the en1_mbrola voice |
| 19:02.41 | bkw_ | but other than that.. the rest was magic |
| 19:03.48 | bkw_ | http://www.cslu.ogi.edu/tts/download/ |
| 19:03.49 | bkw_ | more voices |
| 19:04.27 | bkw_ | This plug-in for Festival provides a new signal processing engine and new voices not included in the Festival distribution: |
| 19:04.41 | *** join/#asterisk point (~litw@195.161.106.222) |
| 19:10.31 | km- | bkw: ugh |
| 19:10.59 | km- | I tried Festival("Happy Holidays!") but it does not appear to work |
| 19:11.00 | km- | it just hangs |
| 19:11.26 | km- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.26 | km- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.35 | bkw_ | did you star festival --server? |
| 19:11.47 | km- | whoa |
| 19:11.53 | km- | it's blocking my asterisk process |
| 19:12.10 | km- | nothing a good killall -9 couldnt fix |
| 19:13.04 | km- | bad festival no cookie for you |
| 19:13.13 | km- | bkw: lemme hear how your festival sounds |
| 19:13.42 | bkw_ | ok hold on |
| 19:15.05 | bkw_ | ok 7004249378 |
| 19:16.00 | km- | could not understand anything except "You Suck" |
| 19:16.04 | bkw_ | haha |
| 19:16.09 | km- | need to slow that sucker down a bit |
| 19:16.11 | bkw_ | hold on |
| 19:16.33 | bkw_ | try now |
| 19:16.57 | km- | how fast can you suck! |
| 19:17.03 | km- | ? |
| 19:17.17 | bkw_ | haha |
| 19:17.20 | bkw_ | try again |
| 19:18.06 | *** part/#asterisk rajo (~rainer@p508AE971.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:18.23 | decode | ganja? |
| 19:18.42 | km- | bkw: I give up :) |
| 19:18.45 | decode | http://www.forrent.com/search/detail.asp?site=1010007 |
| 19:18.46 | bkw_ | try again |
| 19:18.50 | decode | do those apartments look good? :) |
| 19:19.08 | km- | That I could understand |
| 19:19.23 | *** join/#asterisk roger1 (~roger1@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 19:19.23 | bkw_ | hehe |
| 19:19.46 | km- | wow |
| 19:19.51 | km- | decode: 900 sq feet for 2 bedrooms? |
| 19:20.11 | roger1 | any one tried asterisk with call2ua |
| 19:20.17 | decode | km- that big or small? |
| 19:20.42 | km- | relatively small |
| 19:20.49 | km- | but much cheaper than around here |
| 19:20.52 | decode | yea, thought so |
| 19:20.59 | km- | our 2 bedroom has 1046 sq ft and it's $915 |
| 19:21.01 | decode | km- I'm in pretty much downtown vegas heh |
| 19:21.21 | bkw_ | MAN I pay 400/mth house payment for 1200 sq ft and a nice fenced in yard |
| 19:21.23 | bkw_ | and I OWN IT |
| 19:21.36 | bkw_ | ok guys... should I smack a 1 watt amp on my 802.11 stuff? |
| 19:21.37 | decode | i dont want to own property in vegas |
| 19:21.41 | km- | bkw: how much did you buy the house for? |
| 19:21.48 | bkw_ | 33500 |
| 19:21.52 | km- | see |
| 19:21.55 | decode | bkw_, you should put a 50w :) |
| 19:21.59 | km- | a house in the slums around here |
| 19:22.01 | bkw_ | its now worth 70k |
| 19:22.02 | km- | is 70k |
| 19:22.04 | decode | w/ a nice high gain yagi array |
| 19:22.20 | bkw_ | we live 2 blocks from a school |
| 19:22.21 | decode | and provide me some wireless, bitch! |
| 19:22.22 | km- | against the law to put 50w on 2.4ghz |
| 19:22.33 | *** join/#asterisk tim27a (tim27@229-29.dr.cgocable.ca) |
| 19:22.39 | decode | km- heh, unless you do it in a very creative way ;) |
| 19:22.45 | km- | bah |
| 19:22.53 | km- | I wouldn't risk my ham license over it |
| 19:23.20 | tim27a | what the name of the file for inittab ??? |
| 19:23.26 | decode | if you have lots of geographicly seperate antenna arrays, each emitting below maximum PeP for the 2.4ghz ISM band, you can get away w/ it and still cover one hell of an area |
| 19:23.28 | km- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.28 | decode | but.. :) |
| 19:23.36 | decode | yea, a big ass hassle |
| 19:23.40 | *** join/#asterisk rajo (~rainer@p508AE971.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:23.55 | km- | hahaha |
| 19:23.57 | km- | jackass :P |
| 19:24.08 | km- | how about you instead invest in a bunch of access points |
| 19:24.24 | km- | because by the time you buy enough LMR400 and antennas, triplexers/diplexers/baluns and all that shit |
| 19:24.35 | km- | it's going to cost more than just buying a bunch of access points :P |
| 19:24.47 | km- | bah, time to go pick up gramma |
| 19:24.48 | km- | bbiafm |
| 19:25.30 | decode | km- Hmm, just build a shitload of repeaters :) |
| 19:27.06 | Unix-Dog | ok everyone around the tree for a group shot |
| 19:41.52 | *** join/#asterisk blitzrage (~blitzrage@dsl-163.sarnia.xcelco.on.ca) |
| 19:43.08 | bkw_ | ok |
| 19:43.11 | bkw_ | whats the best setup |
| 19:43.20 | bkw_ | i'm going to smack a 12db omni on the roof |
| 19:45.40 | voidptr | humm |
| 19:45.56 | voidptr | make sure its not too high ;) |
| 19:49.45 | bkw_ | oh no |
| 19:49.56 | bkw_ | its only going to be like 6ft off the top of my roof |
| 19:50.18 | bkw_ | gotta install one a lightning arrestor also |
| 19:52.52 | km- | lightning arrestors very useful |
| 19:52.56 | km- | equipment blowing up bad |
| 19:53.03 | km- | nothing beats a good ground wire though |
| 19:53.25 | km- | WARNING[114696]: File chan_sip.c, Line 4778 (handle_response): Got 200 OK on REGISTER that isn't a register |
| 19:53.29 | km- | does anyone know what causes these |
| 19:53.45 | km- | they're all up on my console, and I know they're no big deal, but they're annoying! |
| 19:55.01 | km- | hmm |
| 19:55.04 | km- | maybe google knows |
| 19:55.57 | km- | ah yet more people saying "dont worry about it" |
| 19:56.03 | km- | if it's no big deal, why is it a warning? :) |
| 19:57.10 | bkw_ | stop running in debug |
| 19:57.15 | bkw_ | and you won't see em |
| 20:00.20 | voidptr | :) |
| 20:00.48 | voidptr | comment line 4778 in chan_sip.c and recompile... :P |
| 20:01.11 | km- | haha |
| 20:01.11 | *** join/#asterisk mikerwil (~mikerwils@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 20:01.12 | voidptr | priceless sollutions |
| 20:01.14 | km- | bitches :P |
| 20:01.28 | *** join/#asterisk opelgt (~opelgt@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 20:01.41 | opelgt | hey everybody :D |
| 20:02.15 | opelgt | anybody out there know much about cisco 7960 sip phones? :D |
| 20:02.50 | bkw_ | haha yes |
| 20:02.56 | km- | hehe |
| 20:03.01 | opelgt | i'm sooo stuck heh |
| 20:03.05 | bkw_ | thats like asking if we like sex |
| 20:03.06 | km- | we know nothing about 7960's!!! :P |
| 20:03.11 | opelgt | hehe |
| 20:03.26 | opelgt | so i'm new to the scene here... so forgive me if i sound like a dumbass |
| 20:03.26 | opelgt | heh |
| 20:03.43 | opelgt | so i've got this 7960 running 4.1... |
| 20:03.50 | bkw_ | ok |
| 20:03.52 | km- | yep |
| 20:03.53 | opelgt | it makes outgoing calls just fine... |
| 20:04.06 | opelgt | with the exception of the fact that i have to hit # after dialing... |
| 20:04.14 | opelgt | but that's not as big of a deal |
| 20:04.22 | opelgt | as the fact that it won't receive any incoming calls |
| 20:04.32 | opelgt | asterisk "bounces" the call off it |
| 20:04.34 | km- | that's something you configure in dialplan.xml I think (the hit # stuff) |
| 20:04.42 | km- | opelgt: did you setup user entries in sip.conf? |
| 20:04.47 | opelgt | yeah, i haven't given up on that stuff... |
| 20:04.48 | opelgt | yep |
| 20:04.55 | opelgt | and here's the error I get (fetching) |
| 20:05.08 | opelgt | Got SIP response 481 " |
| 20:05.09 | opelgt | whoops |
| 20:05.46 | km- | opelgt: paste your sip.conf entry for a particular phone? |
| 20:05.46 | opelgt | one more time: Got Sip Response 481"Call Leg/Transaction Does Not Exist" back from <ip> |
| 20:05.56 | km- | hmm |
| 20:06.02 | km- | paste your Dial(statement) too |
| 20:06.13 | opelgt | k... lemme go get it |
| 20:07.00 | opelgt | exten => 7799,1,Dial(SIP/7799,20,tr) |
| 20:07.04 | bkw_ | http://www.bkw.org/~brian/roof.jpg |
| 20:07.06 | km- | ok |
| 20:07.11 | km- | now show us 7799's entry |
| 20:07.11 | bkw_ | thats where i'm gonna put my 802.11 ant... |
| 20:07.21 | opelgt | k... hang on a sec |
| 20:08.00 | km- | bkw: dude, you're nuts :) |
| 20:08.07 | km- | bkw: that sounds like something I'd try |
| 20:08.22 | bkw_ | haha |
| 20:08.24 | bkw_ | why ? |
| 20:08.37 | bkw_ | now with a 12 db omni |
| 20:08.45 | bkw_ | what is the max amp I can put on this |
| 20:08.50 | bkw_ | ok class lets go see |
| 20:08.51 | km- | you'll be able to haxx0r your lan from down the street! |
| 20:09.01 | km- | bkw_: PEP on ISM I thought was 5 watts max |
| 20:09.08 | bkw_ | ya |
| 20:09.18 | bkw_ | but how do you calc that? |
| 20:09.22 | Unix-Dog | I need a paging system |
| 20:10.02 | bkw_ | http://www.bessernet.com/jobAids/dBmCalc/dBmCalc.html |
| 20:10.19 | km- | bkw: no need to do any weird calculations |
| 20:10.32 | km- | bkw: the requirement is that your amplifier output not exceed 5 watts |
| 20:10.37 | bkw_ | no |
| 20:10.38 | km- | you can put it directionally till you're blue in the face |
| 20:10.42 | bkw_ | their is more than that |
| 20:10.59 | opelgt | okay, here goes... one line at a time... hehe |
| 20:11.04 | opelgt | [7799] |
| 20:11.11 | opelgt | type=friend |
| 20:11.12 | bkw_ | so a 1 watt should be plenty with a 12.2 db omni |
| 20:11.18 | opelgt | host=dynamic |
| 20:11.24 | bkw_ | I can fill in all the blanks |
| 20:11.25 | km- | bkw: is it dBi? |
| 20:11.28 | opelgt | username=7799 |
| 20:11.28 | bkw_ | yes |
| 20:11.31 | bkw_ | thats what I ment |
| 20:11.33 | opelgt | secret=<password> |
| 20:11.40 | opelgt | mailbox=7799 |
| 20:11.46 | opelgt | context=sip-trusted |
| 20:11.50 | opelgt | nat=1 |
| 20:11.51 | km- | bkw: dBi is a fictional measurement, you know.... There's no such thing as a perfect istropic antenna |
| 20:11.57 | opelgt | canreinvite=no |
| 20:11.59 | opelgt | that's it |
| 20:12.11 | bkw_ | km- yes |
| 20:12.13 | km- | opelgt: have you set up your phone to register? |
| 20:12.17 | bkw_ | but still 1 watt should do pretty good |
| 20:12.17 | opelgt | yep |
| 20:12.20 | opelgt | it registers just fine |
| 20:12.24 | opelgt | according to the console |
| 20:12.25 | bkw_ | I wonder how far I can go with a wisip then |
| 20:12.30 | opelgt | it even gives me a message light |
| 20:12.35 | opelgt | when i have voicemail |
| 20:12.45 | opelgt | <-- confused |
| 20:12.49 | opelgt | hehe |
| 20:13.07 | km- | hmm |
| 20:13.15 | opelgt | and i've checked context |
| 20:13.17 | km- | and the call leg/transaction does not exist |
| 20:13.18 | bkw_ | upgrade upgrade upgrade |
| 20:13.18 | opelgt | it's correct |
| 20:13.22 | opelgt | yep |
| 20:13.25 | km- | the IP address that it says |
| 20:13.30 | km- | is the same ip as the 7799 phone? |
| 20:13.31 | opelgt | when you dial the extension, you get the unavailable message |
| 20:13.33 | opelgt | yep |
| 20:13.38 | bkw_ | km- I get that with windows messenger all te time with my 8 box |
| 20:13.40 | opelgt | i even stuck the 7799 outside the firewall |
| 20:13.42 | opelgt | to test |
| 20:13.42 | km- | weird |
| 20:13.54 | opelgt | no shit |
| 20:13.59 | km- | not sure what's going on there |
| 20:14.00 | km- | like bkw says |
| 20:14.01 | bkw_ | what does sip show peers show? |
| 20:14.04 | km- | firmware 6 rocks |
| 20:14.05 | km- | :P |
| 20:14.08 | opelgt | k, hang on |
| 20:14.12 | km- | I gotta go guys, guests are arriving |
| 20:14.12 | km- | bbl |
| 20:14.14 | *** part/#asterisk km- (pgrace@virgil.fierymoon.com) |
| 20:14.44 | opelgt | it shows up |
| 20:14.53 | opelgt | it looks the same as the rest of my SIP devices |
| 20:15.03 | opelgt | do you think this might be fixed in fw6? |
| 20:15.24 | opelgt | now is it a problem that my asterisk box is natted? |
| 20:15.40 | bkw_ | give up now |
| 20:15.49 | bkw_ | look at externip |
| 20:15.52 | bkw_ | in sip.conf |
| 20:16.01 | bkw_ | and set it to your extenal IP address |
| 20:16.08 | bkw_ | other wise look at bug 104 on bugs.digium.com |
| 20:16.25 | opelgt | to the external IP of the asterisk box, right? |
| 20:18.08 | bkw_ | of the nat |
| 20:18.15 | bkw_ | * behind nat is evil |
| 20:18.18 | bkw_ | good luck |
| 20:18.39 | opelgt | heh |
| 20:18.39 | opelgt | thanks |
| 20:18.50 | opelgt | i get similar problems with other sip devices . :| |
| 20:18.51 | decode | i'm torn between freebsd, debian, or qnx |
| 20:19.04 | opelgt | thanks for your help |
| 20:19.25 | decode | bkw_ * on QNX? :) |
| 20:23.33 | voidptr | bkw_ : what do you use to make that panorama? |
| 20:24.09 | bkw_ | www.panoaramafactory.com |
| 20:24.22 | bkw_ | I free handed that one I did on the roof |
| 20:25.10 | voidptr | looks like such a typical us suburb :) |
| 20:25.37 | bkw_ | http://www.bkw.org/~brian/roof.jpg |
| 20:25.46 | bkw_ | just uploaded the higer quality one |
| 20:27.21 | bkw_ | http://www.bkw.org/~brian/roof2.jpg |
| 20:27.23 | bkw_ | pre crop |
| 20:28.10 | voidptr | what temperature there? |
| 20:28.11 | decode | is debian a good choice for a * server? |
| 20:28.27 | bkw_ | let me go see |
| 20:28.27 | voidptr | decode : it works... |
| 20:28.47 | bkw_ | voidptr its 60 here |
| 20:28.52 | Corydon76-home | The only one that's not appropriate is Scaldera |
| 20:30.07 | voidptr | 16C :) |
| 20:30.31 | bkw_ | use google for that |
| 20:30.34 | bkw_ | convert 60 F to C |
| 20:30.35 | Unix-Dog | ok home made chicken and vegitable soup is done |
| 20:30.42 | Unix-Dog | with spiced rice |
| 20:30.49 | bkw_ | 60 degrees Fahrenheit = 15.5555556 degrees Celsius |
| 20:30.49 | Corydon76-home | Hey, doncha know that Celsius is a Commie plot? |
| 20:31.13 | Corydon76-home | designed to rob Americans of their precious bodily fluids? |
| 20:32.23 | bkw_ | hahha |
| 20:32.40 | bkw_ | RoyK watch it.. he might saddle up and ride you around the channel |
| 20:32.54 | Corydon76-home | Hey, wow, somebody has actually seen that classic movie |
| 20:33.24 | Unix-Dog | its sad when nothing else is on tv but Bond movies |
| 20:33.33 | bkw_ | pussy galore |
| 20:33.38 | Unix-Dog | everything else is amined at kids |
| 20:33.46 | Unix-Dog | Spy who loved me |
| 20:34.00 | voidptr | christmas carol |
| 20:34.01 | Unix-Dog | before that the man with the golden gun |
| 20:34.03 | voidptr | ... |
| 20:34.04 | RoyK | Dr, Strangelove, Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb |
| 20:34.12 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, that's why I'm online writing patches... |
| 20:34.28 | Unix-Dog | patches for what |
| 20:34.32 | voidptr | i'm only online because i have no friends! :P |
| 20:34.36 | Unix-Dog | your sex life program |
| 20:34.49 | Unix-Dog | we are all friends here |
| 20:34.57 | Unix-Dog | just 1 big * family |
| 20:35.01 | Unix-Dog | group hug |
| 20:35.04 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, you haven't heard about res_sex.so yet, have you? |
| 20:35.10 | bkw_ | Corydon76-home what are you working on? |
| 20:35.18 | Pj_ | chan_vagina |
| 20:35.22 | Corydon76-home | I'm not. Just pondering |
| 20:35.27 | voidptr | bkw_: do they actually have dsl or cable in these places? :P |
| 20:35.37 | bkw_ | voidptr yes |
| 20:35.48 | bkw_ | the city even tried wireless but they had no clue |
| 20:36.02 | bkw_ | they put all the omni ant above and over shot everything |
| 20:36.11 | bkw_ | then charged 900 dollar install |
| 20:36.16 | voidptr | lol |
| 20:36.23 | bkw_ | and if you had 4 pc's in your house.. the would install 4 radios and 4 ant |
| 20:36.26 | bkw_ | fuckin idiots |
| 20:36.36 | Unix-Dog | thats like here in buffalo |
| 20:36.58 | Unix-Dog | they are installing wifi and charging 400 for install and hardware |
| 20:37.06 | optimus1 | hey all |
| 20:37.06 | bkw_ | i'm putting up my cisco AP with a 1 watt amp.. and a 12dbi omni |
| 20:37.22 | bkw_ | we gonna see how far we can push this |
| 20:37.24 | Corydon76-home | Wide Fidelity Sound System? |
| 20:37.32 | voidptr | that should give you atleast 2-3km coverage |
| 20:37.37 | voidptr | but well |
| 20:37.47 | voidptr | your peers need to send back hard enough aswell |
| 20:37.58 | voidptr | s/hard/loud/ |
| 20:38.07 | bkw_ | directionals on the clients |
| 20:38.11 | bkw_ | shouldn't be too hard |
| 20:38.14 | voidptr | yeh |
| 20:38.17 | bkw_ | the amp is two way amp |
| 20:38.59 | bkw_ | not sure how perfect line of sight is going to be in some cases |
| 20:39.39 | bkw_ | I will surely have good coverage for a wisip in my house |
| 20:39.46 | voidptr | :) |
| 20:39.49 | decode | i guess its time for debian |
| 20:39.59 | bkw_ | decode gentoo |
| 20:39.59 | voidptr | decode : or gentoo... |
| 20:40.00 | bkw_ | gentoo |
| 20:40.07 | voidptr | :P |
| 20:40.27 | Corydon76-home | For what are you selecting a distribution? |
| 20:40.46 | decode | corydon, desktop at work, which will also be our temp * server |
| 20:40.46 | voidptr | just for the heck of xmas |
| 20:40.58 | Corydon76-home | Ah, then, Mandrake 9.1 |
| 20:41.03 | bkw_ | ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 20:41.04 | decode | If it wasn't for the * running on it w/ the zaptel cards, i'd do qn |
| 20:41.05 | decode | qnx |
| 20:41.06 | bkw_ | gentoo |
| 20:41.10 | blitzrage | merry xmas people |
| 20:41.11 | bkw_ | give gentoo a tray |
| 20:41.12 | bkw_ | er try |
| 20:41.22 | decode | bkw, i really don't have time to do a gentoo install ;\ |
| 20:41.26 | voidptr | qnx |
| 20:41.27 | discordia | merry to you blitzrage |
| 20:41.29 | voidptr | as desktop? |
| 20:41.30 | blitzrage | gentoo rox |
| 20:41.34 | decode | voidptr yea |
| 20:41.36 | Pj_ | decode: takes one hour with precompiled packages |
| 20:41.36 | decode | I love QNX |
| 20:41.38 | Corydon76-home | See? mdk 9.1 then |
| 20:41.41 | voidptr | sm |
| 20:41.50 | blitzrage | mdk 9.1?! bah! |
| 20:41.56 | blitzrage | unless you have never used linux |
| 20:42.00 | blitzrage | then mdk is the answer :) |
| 20:42.03 | Unix-Dog | ok now what to have with the soup |
| 20:42.08 | blitzrage | crackers |
| 20:42.14 | voidptr | qnx really lacks all usability :) |
| 20:42.16 | Corydon76-home | Yes, but mdk is very easy to clone boxes for |
| 20:42.35 | bkw_ | blitzrage what did you get for xmas? |
| 20:42.41 | Corydon76-home | and quite frankly, that's what counts when you have to crank out the boxes |
| 20:42.49 | decode | Corydon, i'm going to be a building a debian box for the * server later anyways |
| 20:42.55 | decode | this is just to show off what it can do |
| 20:43.00 | decode | they're buying me the developer kit :) |
| 20:43.04 | decode | for my xmas present |
| 20:43.06 | bkw_ | decode I love gentoo |
| 20:43.08 | blitzrage | bkw_: lots of new clothes (needed badly), wireless keyboard and mouse, electric shaver, new tires for my car.. umm.. and other stuff :) |
| 20:43.08 | Corydon76-home | Ah... |
| 20:43.08 | decode | well that and a laptop |
| 20:43.12 | Unix-Dog | I am making a image |
| 20:43.20 | Unix-Dog | to go on cfdrive |
| 20:43.40 | Unix-Dog | for * |
| 20:44.06 | Unix-Dog | and a basic kernel and base it on a via mini-itx mb |
| 20:44.11 | bkw_ | blitzrage playing with your poker.. |
| 20:44.19 | bkw_ | blitzrage you will go blind if you keep that up |
| 20:44.46 | decode | I absolutely love my new job |
| 20:44.58 | Unix-Dog | we need a mini-itx with pugon slots for the digium units and make the a module |
| 20:44.59 | bkw_ | decode what is it? |
| 20:45.00 | bkw_ | porn star? |
| 20:45.13 | Unix-Dog | pug/plug |
| 20:45.17 | Pj_ | dildo beta tester |
| 20:45.23 | decode | bkw_ No, communications systems manager |
| 20:45.24 | bkw_ | Pj_ good one |
| 20:45.35 | bkw_ | decode they need managers in that area? |
| 20:45.40 | Pj_ | Hey, I know about good jobs ;) |
| 20:45.59 | bkw_ | Pj_ dildo testing.. what happens when you have a firestone failure? |
| 20:46.02 | bkw_ | you loose your job? |
| 20:46.06 | decode | bkw_ I basicly decide what to buy/etc |
| 20:46.14 | Unix-Dog | is anyone working on the gtk interface or is it being dropped |
| 20:46.17 | decode | and i make them buy it |
| 20:46.23 | decode | then i make others set it up |
| 20:46.28 | decode | and get paid good to do so |
| 20:47.28 | bkw_ | you need a new lakey? |
| 20:47.53 | decode | lakey? |
| 20:48.10 | bkw_ | or how ever you spell it |
| 20:48.15 | decode | explain :) |
| 20:48.41 | *** join/#asterisk crontibs (Crontibs@ool-44c02950.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 20:48.49 | decode | i'm trying to find myself a mobo w/ pci2.2 slots :) |
| 20:49.01 | bkw_ | ment lackey |
| 20:49.13 | bkw_ | someone who does menial tasks or runs errands for another |
| 20:49.16 | decode | ahh |
| 20:49.22 | decode | perhaps :) |
| 20:49.28 | decode | Location? |
| 20:49.33 | decode | I'm in las vegas, nevada, us |
| 20:49.38 | bkw_ | darn |
| 20:50.43 | bkw_ | ok people don't realize that IAX2 has encryption.. just hasn't made it into CVS or to the light of day yet. |
| 20:50.45 | bkw_ | or so i'm told |
| 20:51.02 | voidptr | well |
| 20:51.24 | voidptr | in that case someone has been keeping it really quiet :P |
| 20:51.44 | bkw_ | or you don't pay attention like I do |
| 20:51.46 | voidptr | or propietary |
| 20:51.47 | Unix-Dog | well we got 1 foot of snow |
| 20:51.53 | decode | bbl |
| 20:51.54 | Unix-Dog | I want more |
| 20:51.55 | bkw_ | I got 1 foot of cawk |
| 20:51.59 | bkw_ | so do I |
| 20:52.13 | decode | going to go spend time w/ girlfriend. not in the mood to spec parts for the next machines at work on christmas... |
| 20:52.16 | voidptr | bkw_ : in that case, me, wasim, coppice, wasim, mbrance, cypromis haven't been paying attention either... so i think its not that ;) |
| 20:52.21 | decode | bbl :) happy holidays |
| 20:52.25 | voidptr | s/wasim// |
| 20:52.47 | RoyK | :%s/voidptr//g; |
| 20:53.38 | Unix-Dog | pay attention to what |
| 20:53.48 | bkw_ | brb |
| 20:53.51 | Unix-Dog | people just ramble here |
| 20:53.58 | Unix-Dog | never makes much sense |
| 20:55.05 | voidptr | hehe |
| 20:55.07 | voidptr | yes |
| 21:01.19 | *** join/#asterisk blitzrage (~blitzrage@dsl-163.sarnia.xcelco.on.ca) |
| 21:01.31 | Unix-Dog | well what a good day to rebuild the base system |
| 21:01.38 | Unix-Dog | and clean the ports |
| 21:05.10 | crontibs | humm this is weird i just updated sources and still getting this error dialing out from iax to fwd WARNING[1150495040]: File chan_iax2.c, Line 4547 (socket_read): I don't know how to authenticate rob to 69.73.19.178 |
| 21:06.21 | *** join/#asterisk wsuff (~wsuff@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 21:06.56 | scott | die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die |
| 21:07.12 | voidptr | got ants in the house? |
| 21:12.36 | bkw_ | ah |
| 21:13.07 | wsuff | geez guess the * mailing lists aren't taking a vacation |
| 21:13.22 | wsuff | hopefully i don't hit my 10mb quota b4 i get home |
| 21:13.49 | *** join/#asterisk wsuff1 (~wsuff@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 21:14.00 | bkw_ | 10mb quotea? |
| 21:14.02 | bkw_ | er quota? |
| 21:14.08 | bkw_ | you have a 10 meg quota on email |
| 21:26.47 | YoYo^ | *sigh* |
| 21:34.19 | *** join/#asterisk mgraves (~mgraves@cs6625205-17.austin.rr.com) |
| 21:42.02 | blitzrage | mgraves: hey michael! |
| 21:42.08 | blitzrage | << Leif |
| 21:43.14 | voidptr | *another* mihcael? |
| 21:43.14 | mgraves | Yes Leif? |
| 21:43.20 | voidptr | michael... |
| 21:43.27 | blitzrage | mgraves: oh nothin.. just sayin hi :) |
| 21:43.43 | mgraves | Well Merry Christmas.... |
| 21:43.47 | voidptr | since when did *my* name get so popular? :P |
| 21:43.50 | blitzrage | you too! |
| 21:44.11 | mgraves | I'm just killing time at my inlaws...wishing I could be messing with my * box.... |
| 21:44.23 | blitzrage | addictive isn't it |
| 21:44.51 | mgraves | OK, lets be productive....what do I need to do at my router in order to pass to/from FWD? |
| 21:45.19 | mgraves | Don't I have to open a couple of ports or somstheing? |
| 21:47.21 | mgraves | Michael = single most popular male name since 0 A.D. |
| 21:47.57 | voidptr | really? |
| 21:48.22 | voidptr | i thought "ali" or "mohammed" would be more common :P |
| 21:48.30 | mgraves | Yes. David is the second most common. |
| 21:49.24 | mgraves | Not sure about the source of my stats, could be western cultures only. |
| 21:49.25 | blitzrage | mgraves: did you apply the nat patch ? |
| 21:49.53 | mgraves | y'know I tried that and had all sorts or problems so I rebuilt from cvs clean. |
| 21:50.06 | bkw_ | lalal |
| 21:50.08 | blitzrage | mgraves: really? it works great here...... |
| 21:50.19 | mgraves | perhaps I try again |
| 21:50.33 | mgraves | maybe it's adequate that I use IAXtel to get at FWD? |
| 21:51.03 | RoyK | Dad just came in with a glass of Glenn Fiddich :D |
| 21:51.08 | mgraves | ... but can an FWD user dial to an IAXtel number? |
| 21:51.18 | blitzrage | mgraves: hrm... not sure actually |
| 21:51.27 | gl_[away] | voidptr: in .tr , mehmet is more common |
| 21:51.31 | RoyK | Leif? |
| 21:51.40 | blitzrage | yes ? |
| 21:51.43 | mgraves | If they could then I'd avoid SIP through NAT altogether |
| 21:52.00 | blitzrage | check the fwd.pulver.com website |
| 21:52.17 | RoyK | blitzrage, I find that a rather nordic name.... where from? |
| 21:52.22 | blitzrage | Canada |
| 21:52.26 | RoyK | oh |
| 21:52.26 | RoyK | ok |
| 21:52.33 | blitzrage | grandfather originally from Denmark though |
| 21:52.36 | blitzrage | hence the name :) |
| 21:52.37 | blitzrage | Leif Madsen |
| 21:52.40 | RoyK | right :) |
| 21:52.40 | voidptr | :) |
| 21:52.48 | RoyK | blitzrage, snakker du dansk? |
| 21:52.49 | mgraves | Leif: It's ghard to get real info from fwd.pulver.com...poorly org'd site |
| 21:53.05 | boo | mgraves: amen to that |
| 21:53.08 | blitzrage | RoyK: I wish I did |
| 21:53.13 | RoyK | :) |
| 21:53.47 | mgraves | Anyone here every use X-Pro for PPC? |
| 21:54.53 | blitzrage | RoyK: hehehehe :) |
| 21:54.56 | mgraves | I'm not claer on how a PocketPC could be a passable phone |
| 21:55.30 | bkw_ | http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Southwest/12/25/suicide.misidentified.ap/index.html |
| 21:55.34 | bkw_ | only in oklahoma |
| 21:58.01 | blitzrage | I love my new wireless keyboard and mouse! |
| 22:00.59 | *** join/#asterisk diana (~diana@home-25022.b.astral.ro) |
| 22:01.19 | diana | ehlo #asterisk |
| 22:08.16 | mgraves | How do you use a wireless kybd and mouse away from the monitor? How does one see what is on screen? |
| 22:09.55 | blitzrage | mgraves: I have a pair of 21" monitors :) |
| 22:10.05 | YoYo^ | LCD or CRT? |
| 22:10.31 | blitzrage | mgraves: also, my keyboard and mouse cables were not quite long enough for my desk for where I have my case... barely reaches... very uncomforatable |
| 22:10.41 | *** join/#asterisk ScaredyCat (~ScaredyCa@c44095.upc-c.chello.nl) |
| 22:10.42 | blitzrage | YoYo^: CRT.. don't like LCD's actually |
| 22:10.49 | blitzrage | Sony Trinitron tubes |
| 22:10.55 | YoYo^ | nice |
| 22:11.03 | YoYo^ | took me a while to get used to my 19" LCD |
| 22:11.10 | blitzrage | yah.. got them pretty cheap too.. one was $200, the other $150 |
| 22:11.13 | YoYo^ | but it's been great, even for gaming |
| 22:11.13 | blitzrage | CDN |
| 22:11.30 | blitzrage | YoYo^: for some reason LCD's give me headaches.. not sure why |
| 22:11.43 | blitzrage | I also can't afford LCD's.... :) |
| 22:11.53 | YoYo^ | they are expensive |
| 22:11.56 | blitzrage | ok.. off to find some food |
| 22:11.58 | YoYo^ | I spent almost $900 on this one |
| 22:12.02 | YoYo^ | too bad I don't own it :( |
| 22:12.04 | blitzrage | YoYo^: especially for a college student :) |
| 22:12.36 | *** join/#asterisk kapejod (~kapejod@p508E67BD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:12.45 | YoYo^ | but, somehow, I don't think that'll be a problem if we ever disolve the company |
| 22:12.48 | kapejod | cheerio |
| 22:12.57 | RoyK | kapejod, sk?l! |
| 22:12.58 | YoYo^ | I prefer lucky charms actually |
| 22:13.30 | kapejod | RoyK: ? |
| 22:13.40 | RoyK | kapejod, read the news? |
| 22:13.45 | kapejod | yeah |
| 22:14.20 | kapejod | but i had deer today :) |
| 22:14.30 | voidptr | poor deers :( |
| 22:14.36 | kapejod | yummy deer :) |
| 22:15.22 | voidptr | some guy killed 8 sheep today, by driving his car into a herd that was crossing the road... i guess he needed the meat pretty badly |
| 22:15.31 | voidptr | his car was totally broken :) |
| 22:15.46 | kapejod | mhhh...sheeeeep :) |
| 22:16.50 | l-fy | hi kapejod |
| 22:16.55 | kapejod | hi l-fy :)) |
| 22:17.07 | michaell | lol |
| 22:17.19 | michaell | anyone have those FRS radio's? |
| 22:17.27 | michaell | Man..tons of little kids... |
| 22:17.36 | michaell | "hello can you hear me? Your breaking up or something" |
| 22:18.25 | tz-xmas | http://cbc.ca/stories/2003/12/24/cancattle031224 |
| 22:18.27 | tz-xmas | yeah |
| 22:18.30 | tz-xmas | just like what happened up here |
| 22:18.37 | tz-xmas | one case, isolated, banned for a good long time |
| 22:18.51 | tz-xmas | there are still companies with their heads up their asses trying ot pull the isolationist bullshit |
| 22:19.36 | tz-xmas | <-- not a beef producer or even related to any of 'em, just pissed off at Canada's typical "turn the other cheek" philosophy |
| 22:22.42 | boo | why not ban every US product period? |
| 22:22.53 | boo | cut canada completely off from the us |
| 22:23.11 | data[x-moose] | blame canada! |
| 22:23.17 | data[x-moose] | teh southpark way |
| 22:23.59 | boo | that would mean more jobs for us in Canada |
| 22:28.24 | data[x-moose] | eatmorchiken1 |
| 22:28.26 | data[x-moose] | -1+! |
| 22:30.08 | sxpert_avignon | michaell: yeah, have a couple of those |
| 22:30.26 | michaell | ? |
| 22:30.43 | michaell | what a couple FRS radios? |
| 22:30.44 | bkw_ | alskdfjow |
| 22:30.52 | kapejod | hi bkw_ |
| 22:31.07 | *** join/#asterisk sxpert_ (~sxpert@AMarseille-206-1-12-239.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:32.05 | RoyK | ~castrate sxpert_ |
| 22:32.08 | | sxpert_: say AAAAAAAAAAAARRGGH! |
| 22:32.37 | bkw_ | yo yo yo |
| 22:33.08 | data[x-moose] | :} |
| 22:33.51 | bkw_ | ya thats angler and his gay ass topic |
| 22:35.02 | data[x-moose] | did mark make it on today? so we could all moo at him and wish him well? |
| 22:37.53 | data[x-moose] | guess not ;p |
| 22:40.32 | bkw_ | ~seen kram |
| 22:40.33 | | kram is currently on #asterisk. Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 21h 56m 37s |
| 22:41.03 | michaell | lol |
| 22:41.08 | michaell | !weather 91342 |
| 22:41.08 | Pj_ | kram: moo |
| 22:41.17 | michaell | no one has the weather plugin :( |
| 22:41.30 | tz-xmas | ~weather 91342 |
| 22:41.34 | tz-xmas | noep |
| 22:41.36 | tz-xmas | oh there it is |
| 22:41.41 | bkw_ | ~meep michaell |
| 22:41.48 | kapejod | ~frag michaell |
| 22:41.50 | | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at michaell |
| 22:41.52 | bkw_ | thats it |
| 22:41.58 | bkw_ | ~frag kapejod |
| 22:42.01 | | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at kapejod |
| 22:42.07 | kapejod | ~lart bkw_ |
| 22:42.14 | bkw_ | ~smack kapejod |
| 22:42.17 | | ACTION smacks kapejod upside the head. |
| 22:42.19 | kapejod | ~kill bkw_ |
| 22:42.22 | | ACTION slits bkw_'s throat |
| 22:42.24 | bkw_ | ~kill kapejod |
| 22:42.27 | | ACTION slits kapejod's throat |
| 22:42.27 | bkw_ | haha |
| 22:42.59 | bkw_ | http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/WiSIP/pictures/ |
| 22:43.03 | bkw_ | I WANT ONE!!!!! |
| 22:43.03 | kapejod | yeah, you are right, holidays are boring ;) |
| 22:43.16 | tz-xmas | but bkw |
| 22:43.18 | tz-xmas | it's not cisco |
| 22:43.53 | mgraves | bkw_: why? does sip over wifi get your anything beyond FXS+cordless for aa small office? |
| 22:44.16 | tz-xmas | mgraves: for me it means I can have one phone for home and work and jus ttake it with me |
| 22:44.24 | tz-xmas | yeah it's like a cell in that regard but it's my backend then :-) |
| 22:44.36 | bkw_ | you can expand the coverage area for a wifi sip phone |
| 22:44.37 | kapejod | bkw_: any dect phone in .de |
| 22:44.50 | bkw_ | blah |
| 22:44.57 | mgraves | My Siemens phone lets me moves cordless handsets from base to base. |
| 22:45.06 | bkw_ | but can it roam? |
| 22:45.12 | bkw_ | :P |
| 22:45.13 | mgraves | I have to register eash with the base upon arrival, but thats trivial. |
| 22:45.24 | kapejod | bkw_: yup |
| 22:45.25 | decode | That bitch takes... 30 years to compile.. |
| 22:45.26 | bkw_ | decode hahahahah |
| 22:45.35 | bkw_ | compile? |
| 22:45.38 | bkw_ | you have src? |
| 22:45.41 | decode | No |
| 22:45.53 | decode | It's 'compiling' a script |
| 22:46.13 | kapejod | mhh...dect stations with BRI ports... :)) |
| 22:46.38 | decode | still trying figure out a _cheap_ way to get * in use where i work |
| 22:47.04 | decode | we have a norstar plus (meridian) handling our system atm (50 phones atm, eventually want to go to 150) |
| 22:47.24 | tz-xmas | decode: that's easy |
| 22:47.25 | tz-xmas | TDM400P |
| 22:47.36 | decode | tz-xmas explain :) |
| 22:47.39 | tz-xmas | plug four trunk lines from the Meridian System into the four ports |
| 22:47.39 | bkw_ | channel bank or T1 card |
| 22:47.44 | tz-xmas | set them up as Pool B or some shit |
| 22:47.54 | decode | tz-xmas I need the entire system migrated to * |
| 22:47.56 | decode | So.. |
| 22:47.57 | tz-xmas | then have certain speed dials use pool B instead of the normal one |
| 22:48.16 | tz-xmas | and once that's proven itself add another TDM400P or finally migrate to a T1 card and a digital trunk card for the meridian system |
| 22:48.40 | tz-xmas | you can also program the meridian system to do LCR based on dialled # and pick up the * trunks if it thinks that call will be cheaper |
| 22:48.45 | tz-xmas | I've done this with our Meridian system |
| 22:48.51 | decode | hmm |
| 22:48.58 | tz-xmas | although I'm not investing in a digital trunk card for it since we're moving and leaving the system |
| 22:49.05 | decode | I'm trying to find a cheap way to go from meridian to * in it's place |
| 22:49.06 | tz-xmas | using softphones and a few regular ADSI phones in the new place |
| 22:49.14 | decode | Hmm |
| 22:49.17 | tz-xmas | decode: as in drop the meridian system altogether? |
| 22:49.20 | decode | Yea |
| 22:49.26 | tz-xmas | you'll have to drop all the desktop phones too |
| 22:49.27 | decode | just keep the norstar phones if possible |
| 22:49.29 | decode | ahh |
| 22:49.42 | decode | They use 2QC (iirc) |
| 22:49.51 | tz-xmas | if you're not up for rewiring the entire place use ADSI phones and an FXS channel bank to terminate all hte exisitng copper pairs |
| 22:50.05 | tz-xmas | I don't know of any digital phones that are supported by * |
| 22:50.21 | tz-xmas | but you can get PT350 ADSI phones for about US$70ea and they'll do most of what you want |
| 22:50.25 | decode | i can through out some cat6 out in the place not a big issue and go cheap SIP |
| 22:50.35 | decode | but the problem is the whole thing will end up fairly expensive |
| 22:50.36 | decode | Hmm |
| 22:50.42 | tz-xmas | hire bkw or tclark though and get ADSI support finished up in things like call parking and whatnot |
| 22:50.49 | tz-xmas | yeah rewiring is a bitch |
| 22:50.51 | decode | heh |
| 22:50.56 | tz-xmas | that's why I don't like SIP phones |
| 22:51.25 | tz-xmas | I'd rather just use ADSI phones and channel banks -- saves you from upgrading the entire copper plant and also saves you headaches when you go to sell the place |
| 22:51.43 | bkw_ | why do you not like sip/ |
| 22:51.47 | tz-xmas | decode: that wasn't a joke -- ADSI support isn't quite complete in * and call park is one of hte most prominent things I can see that needs fixing |
| 22:52.02 | tz-xmas | the ADSI parser I woudln't worry about, buy a professional one for like US$300 and be done with it |
| 22:52.17 | tz-xmas | SIP is a nasty god-forsaken protocol that was designed by committee and doesn't solve any particular problem very well |
| 22:52.21 | kapejod | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.31 | tz-xmas | dynamic port allocation, separate data/control streams... nasty ass shit |
| 22:52.35 | bkw_ | kapejod no I hit more -> blndxfer |
| 22:52.38 | bkw_ | then 210 |
| 22:52.42 | bkw_ | and transfer |
| 22:52.52 | bkw_ | it calls me back in 2 seconds with the parking slot number |
| 22:52.52 | decode | It wouldn't be a significant copper upgrade really |
| 22:52.53 | bkw_ | :) |
| 22:52.54 | tz-xmas | not to mention having to rewire your entire network and either upgrade or add expensive POE-complant switches |
| 22:52.57 | decode | Only 50 seats atm |
| 22:53.08 | bkw_ | tz-xmas riiiight |
| 22:53.08 | tz-xmas | I have about 30 phones and that is significant to me |
| 22:53.11 | tz-xmas | all that wastes copper |
| 22:53.19 | tz-xmas | bkw_: what? |
| 22:53.25 | kapejod | bkw_: i use a lot of #700 ;) until i add support for suspend/retrieve in libpri.... |
| 22:53.27 | bkw_ | POE isn't really needed |
| 22:53.30 | *** join/#asterisk JerJer (~NunYoBizN@pppoe1333.grp.centurytel.net) |
| 22:53.37 | bkw_ | kapejod really? |
| 22:53.37 | decode | yea but POE is decently nice |
| 22:53.39 | tz-xmas | no it's not really needed but now you have to have wallwarts at every station |
| 22:53.45 | tz-xmas | that's a fucking cabling nightmare |
| 22:53.51 | bkw_ | tz-xmas true |
| 22:53.56 | bkw_ | i'm going to get a POE switch |
| 22:54.00 | kapejod | bkw_: an isdn phone isnt muche fun without all the nice isdn features... |
| 22:54.02 | bkw_ | and like 5 or more 7960's just as a toy |
| 22:54.15 | decode | Hmm |
| 22:54.27 | decode | I still have to crack the damn adm passwd on the meridian |
| 22:54.29 | decode | ;) |
| 22:54.29 | tz-xmas | bkw_: I admit that pure VOIP phones are a nice thing... but unless you're doing a new installation it's just pain (IMO) |
| 22:54.33 | tz-xmas | decode: hahaha |
| 22:54.42 | tz-xmas | did you try 266344? |
| 22:54.42 | bkw_ | tz-xmas true |
| 22:54.46 | decode | bastard who set it up forgot it |
| 22:54.54 | tz-xmas | feature **266344, password 266344 is the default |
| 22:54.56 | decode | ahh |
| 22:55.02 | decode | its not the default |
| 22:55.04 | tz-xmas | **CONFIG is what it spells |
| 22:55.09 | decode | but i'm thinking he probably wrote it _somewhere_ |
| 22:55.18 | bkw_ | decode beat it out of him |
| 22:55.27 | voidptr | under the keyboard |
| 22:55.27 | decode | he 'forgot it' |
| 22:55.28 | voidptr | :) |
| 22:55.39 | voidptr | "what keyboard" |
| 22:55.40 | voidptr | sigh |
| 22:55.41 | tz-xmas | I have four trunk lines going to a channel bank to * righ tnow routing over voicepulse |
| 22:55.47 | tz-xmas | works remarkably well |
| 22:55.53 | decode | i'll push 2 lines to * |
| 22:56.04 | tz-xmas | getting a PRI early next year and pulling that directly into * |
| 22:56.41 | decode | any reqs on the line cards in the norstar plus? |
| 22:56.42 | tz-xmas | if you're looking at channel banks I strongly recommend the adit600... it just works, and it's configurable in software (telnet) instead of sip switches like the ABI and ABII |
| 22:56.56 | tz-xmas | decode: you just need trunk lines available (analog or digital) |
| 22:57.00 | decode | so as to avoid killing my zaptel |
| 22:57.01 | decode | Ahh |
| 22:57.09 | tz-xmas | obviously if you have digital trunks available you will need a T1 card for * |
| 22:57.16 | decode | tz-xmas See, i'm getting a TDM kit free |
| 22:57.24 | decode | boss is buying me it :) |
| 22:58.07 | tz-xmas | TDM400P and X101P are nice but really kind of suboptimal... I have a rock-fucking-solid power supply and I'm *still* getting power errors on the TDM400P (rev F), and the X101P is a bitch to get echo gone, although the wiki has a nice procedure now |
| 22:58.38 | decode | hmm |
| 22:58.39 | tz-xmas | my home has no phone line |
| 22:58.50 | decode | so they're not worth the 175, eh? |
| 22:59.00 | tz-xmas | I transferred my number of 12 years to the company I work for, and it goes into * and routes it to my home * box via IAX2 |
| 22:59.13 | tz-xmas | no for $175 it's a great deal to get something up and working and prove the technology |
| 22:59.32 | tz-xmas | but if you're going to be replacing the Nortel you'll want something a little more... industrial |
| 22:59.57 | tz-xmas | hence the Adit600 and the T100P, or in my case the Adit600 and (when it comes) 5v TE400P |
| 23:00.39 | tz-xmas | PRI from telco, PRI to AS5248, and two PRIs to a fully-loaded Adit600 |
| 23:01.25 | decode | tz-xmas yea, this is just for me to play w/ :) |
| 23:01.28 | tz-xmas | actually those last two PRIs will probably be spares until we need more PRIs from the telco :-) |
| 23:01.37 | tz-xmas | decode: then for $175 you can't go wrong |
| 23:01.42 | decode | but, i'm trying to actually get rid of the meridian for under 3k$ :) |
| 23:01.47 | tz-xmas | just make sure you're getting hte PCI cards, I have heard a lot of nast yshit about the USB modules |
| 23:01.59 | decode | tz-xmas yea the TDM :) |
| 23:02.02 | decode | the lite kit is usb |
| 23:02.04 | tz-xmas | decode: you won't do it if you have to buy phones *AND* hardware you're comfortable putting all your telco use into |
| 23:02.16 | kapejod | for you wifi freaks: http://www.vocera.com/products/products.shtm |
| 23:02.30 | tz-xmas | We're replacing our CDN$7000 Meridian system with a probably $3000-$3500 * system |
| 23:02.36 | bkw_ | kapejod old news |
| 23:02.40 | bkw_ | thinkgeek sells those |
| 23:03.04 | tz-xmas | what's a lanyard? |
| 23:03.07 | decode | tz-xmas Someone suggested a way to use the meridian as a channelbank for the * box |
| 23:03.34 | voidptr | old europe rools |
| 23:03.57 | tz-xmas | decode: yes |
| 23:04.07 | tz-xmas | get a digitla trunk card for the meridian system |
| 23:04.08 | kapejod | voidptr: i think you are taking way too much photos of phones ;) |
| 23:04.12 | tz-xmas | then just use it in a very bare-bones configuraiton |
| 23:04.16 | tz-xmas | voicemail, everything off to * |
| 23:04.29 | voidptr | kapejod : dude, there was noone at work... and noone at irc |
| 23:04.36 | voidptr | what am i supposed to do... ;) |
| 23:04.42 | kapejod | voidptr: some people have lives ;) |
| 23:05.02 | kapejod | not me .. but maybe someone else ... ;) |
| 23:05.07 | voidptr | hehe :) |
| 23:05.14 | voidptr | well i thought it was fun |
| 23:05.23 | voidptr | to make illustrations |
| 23:05.26 | voidptr | of horrible phones |
| 23:05.27 | voidptr | :) |
| 23:05.36 | voidptr | key layouts |
| 23:05.39 | voidptr | lcd layout |
| 23:05.43 | voidptr | etc |
| 23:05.55 | decode | tz-xmas What kinda price would i be looking at tho? :) |
| 23:07.30 | kapejod | "...you know, i hear those voices in my head..." ;-) |
| 23:07.43 | voidptr | those bluetooth ones come pretty close |
| 23:08.01 | decode | *cringe* |
| 23:08.04 | decode | AHH!~ |
| 23:08.10 | voidptr | hehe |
| 23:08.17 | decode | anyone wanna sell me an analog linecard for a norstar plus (meridian) |
| 23:08.27 | *** join/#asterisk jelque (~jelque@adsl-65-71-151-219.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net) |
| 23:08.30 | decode | so i can slap a fsckin cordless phone on the bitch and wander around the office? :) |
| 23:08.49 | voidptr | pom pom pom |
| 23:10.33 | voidptr | yeah i'm off too |
| 23:11.34 | decode | i really need a way to use a regular analogue ph0ne |
| 23:11.36 | decode | like.. |
| 23:11.43 | decode | those sexy plantronics ones? :) |
| 23:11.57 | decode | they are tiny and entirely in one piece as a headset |
| 23:12.47 | data[x-moose] | we want a sexy iaxy ! |
| 23:14.16 | glLoadIdentity | there is no need for a sexy one , keep it just working ... |
| 23:14.26 | tz-xmas | decode: where are you |
| 23:19.42 | *** join/#asterisk Eimann (eimann@2001:8e0:abcd:423:2a0:c9ff:fed7:70e2) |
| 23:19.43 | l-fy | hi glLoadIdentity |
| 23:19.51 | zoa | hi lfy |
| 23:19.57 | l-fy | hey zoa |
| 23:20.01 | zoa | you rang me ? |
| 23:20.08 | l-fy | yea |
| 23:20.45 | *** mode/#asterisk [-b *!*@*.client.mchsi.com] by angler_ |
| 23:21.00 | bkw_ | why did you remove that ban? |
| 23:21.22 | angler_ | i wanted to |
| 23:21.40 | zoa | hehe |
| 23:21.47 | zoa | kill him bkw |
| 23:21.49 | zoa | i know you can ! |
| 23:21.57 | glLoadIdentity | hi l-fy |
| 23:22.34 | angler_ | bkw_, is a wimp |
| 23:22.58 | bkw_ | angler_ is a he bitch |
| 23:23.15 | angler_ | haha |
| 23:25.50 | *** join/#asterisk boo (~aaaa@c-24-10-200-168.client.comcast.net) |
| 23:28.52 | zoa | wussie ! |
| 23:31.18 | Unix-Dog | ok all you butt heads dont yo have family you should be spending time with and not harrassing my bitch bkw |
| 23:31.56 | Unix-Dog | its christmas A time to treate your fellow man with love and respect |
| 23:32.08 | Unix-Dog | not ignorance a distrust |
| 23:32.16 | l-fy | Unix-Dog > get a laid |
| 23:32.21 | Unix-Dog | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.27 | boo | shut the hell up Unix-Dog |
| 23:32.36 | bkw_ | haha |
| 23:32.42 | Unix-Dog | boo bite me |
| 23:32.47 | boo | lol |
| 23:32.57 | Unix-Dog | love you but bite me |
| 23:32.59 | bkw_ | nuttin like a little butt lovins |
| 23:33.16 | bkw_ | wait we were talkin about sex right? |
| 23:33.41 | Unix-Dog | bkw we will talk about anything you want love |
| 23:36.16 | zoa | no just dirty kinky sex |
| 23:36.18 | Unix-Dog | so bkw did you get what you wanted this year |
| 23:36.22 | zoa | he's not interested in the love part |
| 23:37.34 | angler_ | hahaha |
| 23:38.27 | Unix-Dog | sex is sex |
| 23:39.22 | zoa | yuk |
| 23:39.34 | boo | gl_[away] likes sex with turnkey? |
| 23:39.51 | zoa | shit i can't find the turn key |
| 23:39.57 | boo | no sex then |
| 23:40.11 | zoa | guess i'm a bad lover :( |
| 23:40.30 | gl_[away] | boo: try it with anykey |
| 23:41.39 | boo | I have one particular button in mind |
| 23:42.51 | Unix-Dog | erect or I mean eject |
| 23:44.09 | michaell | waht the hell |
| 23:44.14 | michaell | isn't this astriek stufff? not sex |
| 23:45.01 | zoa | you are so wrong |
| 23:45.04 | zoa | it's all about sex |
| 23:45.20 | michaell | lo |
| 23:45.21 | michaell | l |
| 23:45.23 | zoa | were you cloned ? |
| 23:46.14 | *** join/#asterisk _Eagle_ (nick@wasteland.net) |
| 23:46.28 | _Eagle_ | merry christmas people |
| 23:46.57 | _Eagle_ | (or is everyone eating turkey and ham right now?) |
| 23:48.10 | _Eagle_ | i had the best turkey dinner today... it was awesome |
| 23:48.16 | boo | we're having an orgy |
| 23:48.35 | _Eagle_ | ahh.. the traditional christmas orgy... |
| 23:48.38 | boo | and fucking turkeys |
| 23:49.08 | _Eagle_ | yuck... i prefer human women myself... but whatever floats your boat |
| 23:50.20 | gl_[away] | :) |
| 23:50.43 | decode | haah |
| 23:50.43 | zoa | you are quite picky |
| 23:50.45 | zoa | human woman |
| 23:50.46 | zoa | wow |
| 23:50.57 | zoa | next thing you know they have to be alive !!! |
| 23:51.13 | zoa | you are so spoiled |
| 23:51.33 | _Eagle_ | boy, you want specifics, eh? |
| 23:51.59 | bkw_ | ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 23:52.05 | boo | yujm |
| 23:52.07 | boo | yum too |
| 23:52.08 | Mike | back |
| 23:52.15 | decode | damn picky.. |
| 23:52.15 | michaell | oh no |
| 23:52.33 | Mike | whats up guys |
| 23:52.38 | l-fy | _Eagle_ > i agree with you, i also prefer human women |
| 23:52.46 | Mike | bkw_: my grandmom just gave me 250$ USD |
| 23:52.53 | bkw_ | I like the menz |
| 23:52.59 | bkw_ | Mike 7960 eh? |
| 23:53.01 | boo | same |
| 23:53.11 | Mike | bkw_: how much is the 7960? |
| 23:53.11 | bkw_ | boo you like the menz too/ |
| 23:53.13 | l-fy | _Eagle_ > you know what's the difference between you and me? |
| 23:53.17 | boo | yup |
| 23:53.17 | bkw_ | mike 295 |
| 23:53.24 | Mike | bkw_: any online store? |
| 23:53.27 | _Eagle_ | living, breathing, human women between the ages of 18 and 32, preferably republican... redheads are great... or short blonde hair... not too short in height... shall i be more specific? |
| 23:53.30 | bkw_ | whois boo? |
| 23:53.54 | bkw_ | boo is gay? |
| 23:54.03 | bkw_ | blitzrage ewwww |
| 23:54.03 | mgraves | repulicans are no fun ;-) |
| 23:54.05 | bkw_ | 80? |
| 23:54.06 | boo | yeah so? |
| 23:54.11 | blitzrage | lol |
| 23:54.13 | Mike | blitzrage: your sick |
| 23:54.26 | Mike | blitzrage: i like em between 17 and 30 NO MORE NO LESS |
| 23:54.28 | blitzrage | I don't actually like the 80 year olds :) |
| 23:54.35 | bkw_ | figured |
| 23:54.38 | blitzrage | I prefer 19-30 actually |
| 23:54.44 | bkw_ | 30? |
| 23:54.47 | bkw_ | oh thats not bad |
| 23:54.49 | Mike | blitzrage: theres 17year old chicks really fine |
| 23:54.59 | blitzrage | Mike: gotta be able to go out drinking with me |
| 23:55.04 | Mike | bkw_: 30year old girls are really nice lovers |
| 23:55.05 | Mike | :P |
| 23:55.14 | blitzrage | 17/18 is too young for me |
| 23:55.19 | blitzrage | and I'm 22 :) |
| 23:55.19 | Mike | blitzrage: im a law student i can do it on my country |
| 23:55.20 | Mike | :P |
| 23:55.27 | Mike | blitzrage: im 21 |
| 23:55.29 | tz-xmas | yeah that's a little young all over |
| 23:55.30 | blitzrage | it's not about laws.. it's about ethics :) |
| 23:55.35 | tz-xmas | I'm 27 and 25 is on my young side |
| 23:55.42 | mgraves | skill takes time and practice |
| 23:55.49 | blitzrage | mgraves: agreed |
| 23:55.51 | _Eagle_ | i think 16 is the age of consent here, but generally you'll get dirty stares and "robbing the cradle" looks from people if you go any lower than 18 |
| 23:56.15 | blitzrage | I prefer the girls my own age or older actually.. 21-24 is my "ideal" |
| 23:56.26 | _Eagle_ | plus teenagers are generally too imature anyway |
| 23:56.30 | gl_[away] | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.32 | blitzrage | _Eagle_: exactly |
| 23:56.33 | Mike | blitzrage: those are expensive woman |
| 23:56.40 | tz-xmas | blitzrage: agreed, except that's 26-34 for me |
| 23:56.41 | Mike | blitzrage: 17 year olds are not that expensive |
| 23:56.46 | zoa | lol |
| 23:56.47 | mgraves | I never m ich had patience for partners my own age, my age +5 are better |
| 23:56.49 | angler_ | ha |
| 23:56.52 | blitzrage | Mike: I date low maintenance girls :) |
| 23:56.56 | michaell | stop making noises... |
| 23:56.57 | michaell | lol |
| 23:56.58 | angler_ | i won't add my comments on age of girls |
| 23:56.59 | tz-xmas | younger women just seem to like to play games because they know they get away with murder |
| 23:57.07 | michaell | I keep hearing..ding ding ding ding ding |
| 23:57.15 | blitzrage | tz-xmas: agreed |
| 23:57.25 | tz-xmas | <-- watching Barbie's The Nutcracker with my 4yo daughter |
| 23:57.30 | blitzrage | lol |
| 23:57.39 | tz-xmas | It's Barbie's first movie... baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad computer animation |
| 23:57.47 | tz-xmas | she likes it though |
| 23:57.51 | zoa | 4 year is too young for me, don't you have any older daughters ? :) |
| 23:58.00 | tz-xmas | actually that's an understatement, she is totally enthralled with the movie |
| 23:58.05 | tz-xmas | zoa: sorry no |
| 23:58.34 | Mike | michaell: you made it with the cofig i gave you? |
| 23:58.38 | _Eagle_ | hahahaha |
| 23:58.52 | blitzrage | going to eat supper now |
| 23:59.00 | bkw_ | angler_ is a ho ho ho |
| 23:59.03 | bkw_ | blitzrage is a ho ho ho |
| 23:59.09 | blitzrage | damn right |
| 23:59.09 | tz-xmas | ha ha ha |
| 23:59.11 | bkw_ | Mike is a ho ho ho |
| 23:59.19 | blitzrage | I prefer the term "male slut" |
| 23:59.24 | angler_ | bkw_ is a ho mo |
| 23:59.25 | bkw_ | he bitch? |
| 23:59.31 | blitzrage | lol |
| 23:59.37 | blitzrage | yes! |
| 23:59.37 | bkw_ | angler_ and you have wet dreams about me .. so SHUSH! |
| 23:59.38 | tz-xmas | man ho |
| 23:59.41 | michaell | mike no i haven't |
| 23:59.45 | michaell | i kind of gave up |
| 23:59.45 | angler_ | lmfao |
| 23:59.48 | tz-xmas | don't make me he-bitch man-slap you |
| 23:59.49 | angler_ | hell no i dont |
| 23:59.56 | blitzrage | tz-xmas: nice moves :) |
| 23:59.57 | bkw_ | angler_ thats not what you told me |
