| 00:00.12 | UnixDawg | how many sip lines can 1 single dual 1.5 ghz server serve before needing a 2nd server |
| 00:00.38 | boo | how mouch wood would a wood chuck chuck |
| 00:01.00 | extremis | if a wood chuck could chucking fix ztmonitor |
| 00:01.29 | doughecka | how much wood would a wood chuck suck if a wood chuck could suck wood? |
| 00:01.31 | UnixDawg | we are working on a company setup |
| 00:01.47 | boo | ahh chuck it |
| 00:02.03 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:03.07 | uranium238 | anyone know the status of a potential java iax2 api? |
| 00:03.22 | bkw_ | http://paypalsucks.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3055&fid=13 |
| 00:04.25 | boo | that is bs |
| 00:04.31 | boo | i would kill |
| 00:04.44 | doughecka | their fault, even if its true |
| 00:08.11 | *** join/#asterisk Maxximus (~maxx@qn-213-73-183-113.quicknet.nl) |
| 00:08.26 | kram | night all |
| 00:08.45 | Maxximus | hi |
| 00:09.07 | Corydon76-work | g'night, kram |
| 00:09.52 | Maxximus | e100p question... zaptel proc: all seems ok, but * doesn't see channels |
| 00:13.17 | Maxximus | Have one working ok in production. setting up a simular one gives this strange issue. anyone? |
| 00:14.56 | *** part/#asterisk japple (blue@adsl-065-081-096-078.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:18.16 | loko-moko | paypal does suck |
| 00:18.28 | loko-moko | based on first hand experience and them freezing my $$$ |
| 00:23.15 | JerJer | there was some reason for them to freeze your loot |
| 00:23.32 | JerJer | give them what they've requested and they will unlock it |
| 00:23.36 | doughecka | indeed |
| 00:24.53 | JerJer | i had some moron file a complaint about a piece of hardware i sold him |
| 00:25.21 | JerJer | paypal locked my account down and requested a couple documents to be faxed to them |
| 00:25.31 | loko-moko | same here |
| 00:25.34 | loko-moko | i didnt have a complaint though |
| 00:25.41 | JerJer | then why did they lock it? |
| 00:25.41 | jsmith | Maxximus: Sounds like you've got a problem in zapata.conf |
| 00:25.41 | loko-moko | they locked me down since i was doing too many purchases and sales |
| 00:25.46 | doughecka | hahaqh |
| 00:25.48 | JerJer | bullshit |
| 00:25.59 | loko-moko | so i had to fax them drivers license, credit card, and bank statement |
| 00:26.05 | loko-moko | for them to unfreeze my account |
| 00:26.07 | jsmith | loko-moko: Did you have a personal account, or a business account? |
| 00:26.09 | loko-moko | business |
| 00:26.11 | JerJer | we do 50-60 transactions a day on a slow day |
| 00:26.23 | loko-moko | this was at the first start of paypal |
| 00:26.25 | loko-moko | like 2 years ago |
| 00:26.30 | JerJer | loko-moko: you prolly hadn't totally varified your account |
| 00:26.38 | JerJer | i've been there about that long also |
| 00:26.46 | loko-moko | dunno |
| 00:26.51 | loko-moko | i only use them for ebay buying now |
| 00:26.53 | *** join/#asterisk Moc (~Moc@modemcable205.159-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 00:26.59 | loko-moko | i use my own merchant account for me accepting money |
| 00:27.25 | Maxximus | jsmith: tks, but zttool gives no errors, and /proc/zaptel/1 seems ok too. |
| 00:27.51 | deexm | can anyone explain the difference between ${DNIS} and ${RDNIS}, or explain how i can obtain the dialed number from an incoming SIP DID |
| 00:33.51 | *** join/#asterisk bobp (~bobp@ool-4352b8e0.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:35.11 | Moc | hi all |
| 00:35.32 | bkw_ | EBAY SUCKS |
| 00:36.17 | heller | and here i've been trying to find hookers to do that! |
| 00:36.19 | JerJer | does anyone happen to know how we can identify exactly what an open file descriptor is associated to? |
| 00:36.26 | bkw_ | lsof |
| 00:36.59 | JerJer | well i'm in /proc/<asterisk pid>/fd |
| 00:37.06 | loko-moko | JerJer did you get my message from before? |
| 00:37.24 | JerJer | and we've found that 2 FDs stay open on each H.323 call |
| 00:37.37 | JerJer | 14 get opened for each call but only 12 get closed |
| 00:37.53 | bkw_ | ah |
| 00:37.54 | JerJer | for example |
| 00:37.55 | JerJer | l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Dec 30 19:27 24 -> pipe:[88839] |
| 00:37.55 | JerJer | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Dec 30 19:27 25 -> pipe:[88854] |
| 00:38.00 | bkw_ | I have a box with h323 on it for 5 weeks |
| 00:38.03 | bkw_ | wonder what it looks like |
| 00:38.24 | JerJer | take a look ll /proc/<asterisk pid/fd |
| 00:38.27 | JerJer | + > |
| 00:38.44 | JerJer | or ls -l if ur system doesn't have ll alias :) |
| 00:39.20 | bkw_ | root@asterisk:/proc/17110/fd# ls -l | wc -l |
| 00:39.20 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.37 | bkw_ | fix it fix it fix it |
| 00:39.38 | bkw_ | haha |
| 00:39.43 | JerJer | duno how |
| 00:39.52 | bkw_ | oh well its worked for 5 weeks |
| 00:40.04 | JerJer | i gota figure out which two pipe/socket stick around |
| 00:40.18 | *** join/#asterisk Kumbang (~unknown@167.205.22.54) |
| 00:40.25 | Moc | just do restart gracefully ? will clean them up once no one use it ? |
| 00:40.41 | JerJer | you have to restart asterisk completely |
| 00:40.50 | Moc | oh hehe sorry.. |
| 00:41.22 | bkw_ | 17129 root 10 0 72756 23M 7192 S 1.8 18.8 67:28 asterisk |
| 00:42.34 | jsmith | Maxximus: Yes, that's normal... zttool depends on "zaptel.conf" being right... "zapata.conf" is a different file... |
| 00:42.56 | JerJer | bkw_: so cd /proc/17129/fd |
| 00:42.59 | JerJer | ls -l |
| 00:43.43 | bkw_ | yes its leaking two per call |
| 00:43.48 | JerJer | yes |
| 00:43.51 | JerJer | yes it is |
| 00:44.02 | JerJer | 26 -> pipe:[88854] |
| 00:44.11 | JerJer | that number means something to someone |
| 00:44.33 | doughecka | bah |
| 00:44.33 | JerJer | 88854 that is |
| 00:44.33 | bkw_ | l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Dec 30 18:44 923 -> pipe:[6532640] |
| 00:44.33 | bkw_ | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Dec 30 18:44 924 -> pipe:[6532698] |
| 00:44.33 | bkw_ | l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Dec 30 18:44 925 -> pipe:[6532698] |
| 00:44.37 | doughecka | its a feature |
| 00:44.44 | doughecka | its a way of telling how many calls went through |
| 00:44.45 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:44.45 | zoa | bkw bkw bkw |
| 00:44.50 | zoa | work for you |
| 00:44.54 | zoa | @ bugs.digium.com |
| 00:44.55 | zoa | :) |
| 00:45.10 | zoa | go get em tiger ! |
| 00:45.16 | bkw_ | zoa I like to hve fixes before we post a bug |
| 00:45.26 | bkw_ | JerJer they are in pairs |
| 00:45.26 | bkw_ | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Dec 30 18:44 913 -> pipe:[6553667] |
| 00:45.26 | bkw_ | l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Dec 30 18:44 914 -> pipe:[6553667] |
| 00:45.32 | bkw_ | the numbers on the pipes are in pairs |
| 00:45.52 | JerJer | makes sesne |
| 00:45.53 | bkw_ | so could this be an openh323 bug? |
| 00:45.54 | JerJer | sense |
| 00:45.59 | JerJer | one is write other is read |
| 00:46.03 | bkw_ | ok |
| 00:46.06 | JerJer | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:46.14 | JerJer | vs |
| 00:46.16 | JerJer | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:46.23 | bkw_ | but why are they not killing over? |
| 00:47.34 | zoa | it would be strange if it was an openh323 bug, i do a lot of openh233 calls (without asterisk though) a day |
| 00:47.44 | zoa | can't even remember the ip of the server :) |
| 00:47.48 | zoa | its that stable |
| 00:48.10 | bkw_ | wonder why its doing that |
| 00:48.26 | JerJer | zoa: craig said it wouldn't be the first leak someone has found in open h.323/pwlib |
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| 00:49.06 | zoa | true |
| 00:49.15 | zoa | but 2 open files for each call |
| 00:49.17 | zoa | would be a lot |
| 00:49.23 | JerJer | try 14 |
| 00:49.28 | JerJer | but only 12 close |
| 00:49.30 | zoa | i mean: to that stay open |
| 00:49.32 | zoa | *two |
| 00:49.33 | JerJer | yeah |
| 00:49.42 | zoa | servers would go down quite fast i think |
| 00:49.45 | bkw_ | ok start matching the open's and closes |
| 00:49.47 | JerJer | this isn't redmon development co. here |
| 00:50.07 | zoa | bkw_ its prolly not that easy :) |
| 00:50.17 | JerJer | bkw_: that's the thing, chan_h323 doesn't open() anything |
| 00:50.28 | JerJer | or do anything directly with sockets/pipe's |
| 00:50.30 | bkw_ | so maybe we aren't calling something to hangup |
| 00:50.37 | bkw_ | or close it down properly |
| 00:50.43 | bkw_ | have you ran it under valgrind? |
| 00:50.56 | JerJer | valgrind hates open h.323 |
| 00:51.23 | JerJer | but yes i have and other than the low level crap valgrind doesn't complain |
| 00:52.45 | *** join/#asterisk francisco (~francisco@200.109.9.102) |
| 00:53.02 | francisco | hello everyone |
| 00:53.38 | francisco | can someone help me ? |
| 00:53.52 | francisco | i need some help ....i have installed red hat 9 |
| 00:54.04 | francisco | and need help on setting up asterisk |
| 00:54.56 | bkw_ | francisco read |
| 00:55.03 | bkw_ | www.voip-info.org has alot of info |
| 00:55.25 | bkw_ | JerJer I hate H323 |
| 00:55.30 | bkw_ | its going to make me loose my uptime |
| 00:55.32 | francisco | ok my problem is that i installed redhat 9 and apparently i am missing some packages |
| 00:55.36 | bkw_ | we are so getting more ram for our cisco gear |
| 00:55.38 | zoa | bkw_ join the club :) |
| 00:56.51 | zoa | jerjer: if you say that the jitter buffer in iax is broken |
| 00:56.56 | ]data[ | jebus |
| 00:56.58 | zoa | exactly what do you mean by broken ? |
| 00:57.01 | zoa | its not working ? |
| 00:57.03 | zoa | it causes crashes ? |
| 00:57.11 | zoa | it gives bad quality ? |
| 00:58.27 | zoa | it sings out loud while showering ? |
| 00:58.27 | ]data[ | http://www.btbroadbandvoice.com/broadband_voice/bb_voice_home.html |
| 00:58.34 | ]data[ | they've murdered it! |
| 00:59.22 | zoa | unlimited calls, up to an hour ии |
| 01:00.01 | JerJer | another ISP/Telco not using the webster's definiation of "unlimited' |
| 01:00.18 | ]data[ | JerJer: thats our main telco :) |
| 01:00.29 | ]data[ | they've stolen a whole number block it seems |
| 01:00.37 | ]data[ | _445. |
| 01:00.47 | ]data[ | dedicated for 'voip' |
| 01:01.51 | doughecka | hahah |
| 01:02.10 | ]data[ | *sigh* |
| 01:02.18 | data[Zzz] | nn folks :} |
| 01:02.23 | data[Zzz] | off to dream up a TRIP implementation |
| 01:04.12 | ErikN | I keep getting REGREJ when trying to register as an iax2 peer |
| 01:04.30 | bkw_ | then you doing sumfin wrong! |
| 01:04.34 | ErikN | a:-) |
| 01:05.59 | *** join/#asterisk bobman (~bobman@68-169-206-81.agstme.adelphia.net) |
| 01:09.04 | bkw_ | asterisk*CLI> show uptime |
| 01:09.04 | bkw_ | System uptime: 5 weeks, 2 days, 2 hours, 36 minutes, 30 seconds |
| 01:09.04 | bkw_ | Last reload: 2 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour, 48 minutes, 2 seconds |
| 01:09.09 | bkw_ | fuck it.. i'm not restarting that damn thing |
| 01:12.28 | ErikN | strange - I moved my auth junk for iax to the end of the conf and it works now :-\ |
| 01:13.45 | UnixDawg | exten => _1XXX,1,DBget(temp=SIP/) |
| 01:13.46 | UnixDawg | exten => _1XXX,2,Goto(sipext,${temp}|1) |
| 01:13.46 | UnixDawg | exten => _1XXX,102,Goto(${temp}|3) |
| 01:13.46 | UnixDawg | exten => _1XXX,3,DBget(dnd=DND/${temp}) |
| 01:13.46 | UnixDawg | exten => _1XXX,4,Goto(${temp}|6) |
| 01:13.46 | UnixDawg | exten => _1XXX,104,Goto(${temp}|5) |
| 01:13.48 | UnixDawg | exten => _1XXX,5,Dial(SIP/${temp},50,Ttr) |
| 01:13.49 | *** join/#asterisk jaxxan (~jaxxan@astmail.bluesky.as) |
| 01:13.50 | UnixDawg | exten => _1XXX,6,Voicemail(u${temp}) |
| 01:13.52 | UnixDawg | exten => _1XXX,7,Hangup |
| 01:13.58 | UnixDawg | exten => _1XXX,106,Voicemail(b${temp}) ; busy |
| 01:14.00 | UnixDawg | exten => _1XXX,107,Hangup |
| 01:14.02 | UnixDawg | what is wrong with this script |
| 01:14.10 | dant | apart from the order? |
| 01:14.23 | UnixDawg | I am trying to make it so in extensions.conf I dont have to build every extension |
| 01:14.56 | bkw_ | I will take NCO financial to small claims court |
| 01:14.57 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:15.07 | bkw_ | then they will not send someone.. then I will win |
| 01:15.09 | bkw_ | w00t |
| 01:15.28 | UnixDawg | bkw why is this not working |
| 01:15.35 | UnixDawg | what did I miss |
| 01:15.48 | dant | first line? |
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| 01:15.57 | bkw_ | 102,Goto(${temp}|3) |
| 01:15.58 | bkw_ | wrong |
| 01:16.01 | bkw_ | 104,Goto(${temp}|5) |
| 01:16.02 | bkw_ | WRONG |
| 01:16.06 | bkw_ | Voicemail(u${temp}) |
| 01:16.07 | bkw_ | WRONG |
| 01:16.09 | UnixDawg | line 1 is therethat is for dnd |
| 01:16.21 | bkw_ | Goto(${temp}|3) ${EXTEN} |
| 01:16.23 | bkw_ | you twit |
| 01:16.34 | bkw_ | if dbget fails ${temp} won't be set |
| 01:16.35 | UnixDawg | that is for dnd |
| 01:16.41 | UnixDawg | do not disturb |
| 01:16.43 | bkw_ | the goto's are ALL WRONG |
| 01:16.47 | bkw_ | ok NEXT!!! |
| 01:16.55 | jaxxan | haha |
| 01:16.57 | jaxxan | bkw_ |
| 01:17.01 | bkw_ | jaxxan yo yo yo |
| 01:17.08 | jaxxan | -- Executing Dial("SIP/377-707c", "Zap/g1/2581077|70|Tt") in new stack |
| 01:17.09 | jaxxan | -- Called g1/2581077 |
| 01:17.09 | jaxxan | -- Channel 2, span 1 got hangup |
| 01:17.09 | jaxxan | -- Hungup 'Zap/2-1' |
| 01:17.09 | jaxxan | == No one is available to answer at this time |
| 01:17.09 | jaxxan | -- Executing Macro("SIP/377-707c", "fastbusy") in new stack |
| 01:17.32 | jaxxan | here's my zapata.conf |
| 01:17.33 | jaxxan | context = default |
| 01:17.34 | jaxxan | switchtype = dms100 |
| 01:17.34 | jaxxan | ;pridialplan = international |
| 01:17.34 | jaxxan | signalling = pri_cpe |
| 01:17.34 | jaxxan | ;signalling = pri_net |
| 01:17.35 | jaxxan | group = 1 |
| 01:17.37 | jaxxan | channel => 1-23 |
| 01:17.44 | jaxxan | it's up and my lights are green |
| 01:17.50 | jaxxan | but i can't get calls to pass through it |
| 01:18.02 | UnixDawg | bkw that came out of 1 of your origian exten scripts |
| 01:18.09 | ErikN | jaxxan: do you have a rule to answer calls? |
| 01:18.18 | bkw_ | UnixDawg no , I didn't use ${temp} in the goto's |
| 01:18.30 | jaxxan | [inbound-analog] |
| 01:18.30 | jaxxan | ;exten => s,1,Zapateller(answer|nocallerid) |
| 01:18.30 | jaxxan | exten => s,1,Dial(SIP/377,30,Ttr) |
| 01:18.30 | jaxxan | exten => s,2,Hangup |
| 01:18.41 | bkw_ | jaxxan you need to answer it |
| 01:18.43 | ErikN | jaxxan: what about answer? |
| 01:18.51 | jaxxan | answer ? |
| 01:18.59 | bkw_ | exten => s,1,Answer |
| 01:19.03 | ErikN | jaxxan: s,1,Wait,1 s,2,Answer |
| 01:19.42 | jaxxan | oh |
| 01:19.54 | jaxxan | but then how come i can't dial out ? |
| 01:20.02 | jaxxan | [forced-analog] |
| 01:20.03 | jaxxan | exten => _9.,1,Dial(${DIALOUTANALOG}/${EXTEN:1},70,Tt) |
| 01:20.03 | jaxxan | exten => _9.,2,Macro(fastbusy) |
| 01:20.03 | jaxxan | exten => _9.,102,Macro(fastbusy) |
| 01:20.07 | ErikN | what is your dialplan set to? |
| 01:20.34 | jaxxan | ErikN: what do you mean ? |
| 01:20.34 | ErikN | oh- analog... |
| 01:20.38 | bkw_ | jaxxan because you need to answer an inbound call first |
| 01:20.48 | ErikN | jaxxan: was gonna ask about your pri dialplan |
| 01:21.13 | jaxxan | isn't a PRI dialplan the same as my extensions.conf ? |
| 01:21.33 | ErikN | jaxxan: you are not dialing out the pri - so it dont matter (it is in zapata.conf) |
| 01:21.49 | jaxxan | but i want to dial out through the pri |
| 01:22.12 | ErikN | jaxxan: ok - what is ${DIALOUTANALOG} set to? the pri interface or analog? |
| 01:22.31 | jaxxan | [globals] |
| 01:22.31 | jaxxan | DIALOUTANALOG=Zap/g1 |
| 01:22.43 | ErikN | and Zap/g2 is PRI ? |
| 01:23.07 | Roger1 | Right now my CDR records call "answered" just when the line rings but if I hang up it still records the call as answered. Is it possible to omit such calls from CDR? |
| 01:23.30 | UnixDawg | ok i see |
| 01:23.30 | bkw_ | Roger1 not on analog ifaces |
| 01:23.57 | jaxxan | ErikN: i dont have a zap/g2 specified anywhere |
| 01:24.04 | jaxxan | g2 = group 2 right ? |
| 01:24.11 | Roger1 | bkw: On X100P? |
| 01:24.19 | ErikN | jaxxan: yeah --- so Zap/g1 is a pri card? |
| 01:24.24 | jaxxan | erikn: i'm using a t400p |
| 01:24.29 | jaxxan | ErikN: yeah... pri |
| 01:24.34 | bkw_ | Roger1 you can't unless you use call progress |
| 01:24.36 | bkw_ | and its buggy |
| 01:24.42 | bkw_ | the analog iface can't signal |
| 01:24.54 | ErikN | jaxxan: k... was confused by the var name ANALOG ... it isnt analog but whatever... ok |
| 01:25.06 | ErikN | jaxxan: try this: pri intense debug span 1 |
| 01:25.21 | ErikN | jaxxan: then make your call -- look for any reason codes for the failure |
| 01:25.24 | jaxxan | holy crap |
| 01:25.26 | Roger1 | bkw: Thanks, thanks but how do I enable call progress |
| 01:25.41 | bkw_ | read the default zapata.conf |
| 01:25.45 | bkw_ | and you will get false hangups |
| 01:25.51 | bkw_ | and really strange behavior |
| 01:26.07 | jaxxan | how do i stop it ? |
| 01:26.10 | jaxxan | it's going crazy |
| 01:26.18 | ErikN | jaxxan: pri no debug span 1 |
| 01:26.27 | Roger1 | bkw: Got it ..thanks once again |
| 01:28.52 | jaxxan | Starting T_200 timer |
| 01:28.52 | jaxxan | > Protocol Discriminator: Q.931 (8) len=9 |
| 01:28.52 | jaxxan | > Call Ref: len= 2 (reference 32768/0x8000) (Terminator) |
| 01:28.52 | jaxxan | > Message type: RELEASE COMPLETE (90) |
| 01:28.52 | jaxxan | > Cause (len= 2) [ Ext: 1 Coding: CCITT (ITU) standard (0) 0: 0 Location: Private network serving the local user (1) |
| 01:28.53 | jaxxan | > Ext: 1 Cause: Message not compatible with call state (101), class = Protocol Error (6) ] |
| 01:28.55 | jaxxan | i get that alot |
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| 01:29.05 | jaxxan | and this too |
| 01:29.06 | jaxxan | -- Nothing left, starting T203 counter |
| 01:29.07 | jaxxan | < Protocol Discriminator: Q.931 (8) len=13 |
| 01:29.07 | jaxxan | < Call Ref: len= 2 (reference 0/0x0) (Originator) |
| 01:29.07 | jaxxan | < Message type: STATUS (125) |
| 01:29.07 | jaxxan | < Cause (len= 3) [ Ext: 1 Coding: CCITT (ITU) standard (0) 0: 0 Location: User (0) |
| 01:29.09 | jaxxan | < Ext: 1 Cause: Invalid call reference value (81), class = Invalid message (5) ] |
| 01:29.11 | jaxxan | < Cause data 0: 01 (1) |
| 01:29.13 | jaxxan | < Call State (len= 1) [ Ext: 0 Coding: CCITT (ITU) standard (0) Call state: Null (0) |
| 01:29.25 | bkw_ | jaxxan your going into your own DMS100 right? |
| 01:29.38 | jaxxan | bkw_: yes |
| 01:29.54 | bkw_ | I think your switch monkies have it wrong! :P |
| 01:30.16 | jaxxan | you're probably correct. this is also their first time dealing with PRI |
| 01:30.28 | bkw_ | I bet it is |
| 01:30.52 | jaxxan | back to that answer thing.... |
| 01:32.31 | francisco | ok.. |
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| 01:32.37 | francisco | i dont get |
| 01:32.37 | jaxxan | exten => s,1,Wait,1 |
| 01:32.38 | jaxxan | exten => s,2,Answer |
| 01:32.38 | jaxxan | exten => s,3,Dial(SIP/377,30,Ttr) |
| 01:32.38 | jaxxan | exten => s,4,Hangup |
| 01:32.39 | jaxxan | ? |
| 01:32.42 | francisco | i dont get.it ... |
| 01:32.51 | francisco | i installed rh9 |
| 01:33.02 | francisco | workstation |
| 01:33.05 | jaxxan | rh9 scares me |
| 01:33.13 | francisco | and now i dont seem to be able to run the asterisk stuff |
| 01:33.24 | francisco | i need some packages like openssl etc |
| 01:33.30 | francisco | i dont know what to do... |
| 01:33.56 | jaxxan | fransisco: debian has a feature called apt-get, which d/l's all the packages and dependancies that you need |
| 01:33.57 | francisco | i read the documentation i was directed to but i am frustrated now. |
| 01:34.03 | jaxxan | francisco: RH has something else like that |
| 01:34.08 | jaxxan | i dont remember what it's called through |
| 01:34.18 | francisco | i was told something like YUM |
| 01:34.21 | jaxxan | but i do know you have to register to use it (eeeeevil) |
| 01:34.24 | francisco | but, i really dont know what to do |
| 01:34.43 | jaxxan | i found a document that showed how to install RH9 and asterisk... let me find it real quick |
| 01:34.47 | jaxxan | and i'll send you the link |
| 01:34.57 | francisco | i am totally new to linux and new to asterisk as well. |
| 01:35.11 | francisco | what do you guys run ? |
| 01:35.29 | jaxxan | i use debian 3.01 |
| 01:35.45 | francisco | i am not very linux literate..all i have tried in the past is rh and mandrake 9 |
| 01:35.51 | jaxxan | http://members.lycos.co.uk/wipe_out/asterisk/asterisk_rh9_install-v1.3.pdf |
| 01:35.54 | jaxxan | try that link |
| 01:35.56 | francisco | i thought the higher versions were better |
| 01:36.22 | jaxxan | ur thnking microsoft bro |
| 01:36.23 | francisco | my problem jaxxan is the openssl, should i reinstall everything ? i sounds awkward |
| 01:36.27 | jaxxan | think open source (= |
| 01:36.49 | jaxxan | fransisco |
| 01:36.53 | francisco | what do you mean ? by microsoft ? |
| 01:37.01 | klasstek | rpmfind.net |
| 01:37.04 | jaxxan | compiling and installing openssl is pretty simple |
| 01:37.21 | jaxxan | red hate makes packages that you just click on |
| 01:37.23 | francisco | i am trying to migrate to opensource, i really dislike windows, it crashes all the time |
| 01:37.41 | jaxxan | and it'll install it for you pretty much automatically |
| 01:37.55 | *** join/#asterisk JerJer (~NunYoBizN@pppoe1333.grp.centurytel.net) |
| 01:37.56 | jaxxan | that link i sent isn't working for some reason. it worked yesterday though... that's when i found it. |
| 01:38.08 | jaxxan | try it again later.... member.lycos.* blow |
| 01:38.29 | francisco | jaxxan ok let me try it and see what i see, what about the openssl |
| 01:38.30 | francisco | ? |
| 01:38.47 | jaxxan | fransisco: go to rpmfind.net |
| 01:38.58 | jaxxan | type in openssl in their little search thingy |
| 01:39.15 | jaxxan | and it should come up with a redhate package for openssl |
| 01:39.27 | francisco | ok... |
| 01:39.27 | jaxxan | just d/l it and install... read the howto: |
| 01:39.31 | jaxxan | kk |
| 01:40.22 | francisco | let me try it out... |
| 01:40.53 | UnixDawg | grrr ok this is not making sense |
| 01:41.07 | jaxxan | join the club dawg |
| 01:41.15 | zoa | Happy newyear everyone, due to the different timezone, its already new year in belgium !! |
| 01:41.19 | zoa | HAPPY NEWYEAR ! |
| 01:41.22 | zoa | PWEEEEET |
| 01:41.54 | jaxxan | (= |
| 01:42.09 | jaxxan | i'll take 12 of whatever your drinking |
| 01:42.17 | many | haha |
| 01:42.28 | zoa | baileys ! |
| 01:42.30 | mishehu | according to my computer, it is evening on dec 30. that means taht in belguim at LATEST it is early morning dec 31. which means it's not new year yet. |
| 01:42.53 | many | Wed Dec 31 02:42:53 CET 2003 |
| 01:42.56 | zoa | - |
| 01:42.56 | zoa | [zoa TIME reply]: Thu Jan 01 02:42:42 2004 |
| 01:43.01 | doughecka | new year eve |
| 01:43.08 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:43.10 | mishehu | zoa: I think you're off |
| 01:43.15 | zoa | many, you must be australian |
| 01:43.20 | many | zoa: you are br0ke. |
| 01:43.30 | jaxxan | ok, how come i dont have to have Answer in my other extensions? |
| 01:43.32 | jaxxan | exten => 385,1,DBget(temp=CF/385) |
| 01:43.32 | jaxxan | exten => 385,2,Goto(sipext,${temp}|1) |
| 01:43.32 | jaxxan | exten => 385,102,Goto(385|3) |
| 01:43.32 | jaxxan | exten => 385,3,DBget(dnd=DND/385) |
| 01:43.32 | jaxxan | exten => 385,4,Goto(385|6) |
| 01:43.33 | jaxxan | exten => 385,104,Goto(385|5) |
| 01:43.35 | jaxxan | exten => 385,5,Dial(SIP/385,14,Ttr) |
| 01:43.35 | francisco | jaxxan the link above doesnt work |
| 01:43.37 | *** join/#asterisk zoa (~john@213.219.141.63) |
| 01:43.37 | jaxxan | exten => 385,6,Voicemail2(u385) |
| 01:43.39 | jaxxan | exten => 385,7,Hangup |
| 01:43.41 | jaxxan | exten => 385,106,Voicemail2(b385) ; busy |
| 01:43.43 | jaxxan | exten => 385,107,Hangup |
| 01:43.45 | zoa | i didnt say to start dossing me ! |
| 01:43.45 | jaxxan | these all work fine |
| 01:43.46 | many | zoa: australia is 12 hours before us, not behind us. |
| 01:43.47 | jaxxan | without Answer |
| 01:43.47 | francisco | for the asterisk and redhat 9 |
| 01:43.52 | zoa | before us ? |
| 01:43.54 | jaxxan | francisco: yeah i know, lycos sucks, what can you do |
| 01:43.54 | mishehu | zoa: I left vietnam at 00:05 dec 30, and arrived in chicago at 9:15am dec 30. you are borked |
| 01:43.56 | zoa | where do you live then ? |
| 01:44.02 | many | CET. |
| 01:44.05 | many | still. |
| 01:44.07 | zoa | no shit |
| 01:44.10 | francisco | this sucks |
| 01:44.11 | zoa | you travelled back in time |
| 01:44.13 | many | no shit d00d. |
| 01:44.22 | zoa | you rock totaly |
| 01:44.28 | many | i know. |
| 01:44.32 | zoa | how do you do that ? |
| 01:44.33 | mishehu | which means it's dec 31 in vietnam right now |
| 01:44.50 | zoa | yupes |
| 01:44.55 | zoa | new years eve in vietnam |
| 01:45.25 | bkw_ | mishehu talk about time travel |
| 01:45.25 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:45.46 | zoa | and i'll call all my friends, clients and enemys |
| 01:45.48 | zoa | with it |
| 01:45.51 | zoa | all night long |
| 01:45.56 | zoa | max retries=100 |
| 01:45.56 | zoa | :) |
| 01:45.58 | mishehu | bkw_: which is why it's damn good to have a computer running ntp... otherwise, I'd be so disoriented it wouldn't be funny. |
| 01:46.07 | zoa | i'm running ntp |
| 01:46.13 | bkw_ | me tto |
| 01:46.14 | bkw_ | er me too |
| 01:46.21 | bkw_ | and i'm totally disoriented anyway |
| 01:46.23 | zoa | bkw, gimme your phone number |
| 01:46.23 | zoa | :а |
| 01:46.25 | zoa | :) |
| 01:46.29 | bkw_ | 9184290404 |
| 01:46.30 | bkw_ | why? |
| 01:46.33 | zoa | cell phone ? |
| 01:46.38 | bkw_ | home |
| 01:46.38 | mishehu | alright, it's time to eat some non-asian food for a change |
| 01:46.46 | zoa | is that 0019184.. ? |
| 01:46.49 | zoa | do you have clid ? |
| 01:46.55 | bkw_ | zoa yes |
| 01:47.01 | zoa | i mean can you see the caller id ? |
| 01:47.05 | jaxxan | that's his telemarketor hotline... menu hell |
| 01:47.06 | bkw_ | yes |
| 01:47.10 | UnixDawg | bkw do you have 1 min to helP |
| 01:47.55 | *** join/#asterisk Lee1 (~M@219.95.6.75) |
| 01:48.34 | UnixDawg | I fallowed the basic of your macro-stdexten |
| 01:48.51 | UnixDawg | but added a few lines and it wtill not working |
| 01:49.12 | jaxxan | haha, the hitchhikers guide to asterisk |
| 01:49.22 | UnixDawg | hehe |
| 01:49.51 | UnixDawg | bkw youra god and you know it this is why i come to you |
| 01:49.51 | zoa | bkw, it gives user busy |
| 01:49.54 | zoa | is that possible ? |
| 01:50.28 | zoa | Ext: 1 Cause: User busy (17), class = Normal Event (1) ] |
| 01:51.11 | bkw_ | zoa its not busy |
| 01:51.22 | bkw_ | HAHAAHAHAHAHAH |
| 01:51.24 | bkw_ | wtf is this? |
| 01:51.28 | jaxxan | francisco: try this link to get yourself familiar and stuff: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk |
| 01:51.49 | ErikN | If I register my iax2 client (peer name is foobar) to * - I call it by dialing iax2/foobar correct? |
| 01:52.05 | francisco | ok |
| 01:52.09 | zoa | bkw_ do you like it ? :) |
| 01:52.13 | zoa | its in dutch |
| 01:52.14 | zoa | too bad :) |
| 01:52.24 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:52.31 | francisco | i just downloaded the openssl but nothing happened..i guess i have a lot to learn |
| 01:52.34 | francisco | ;-) |
| 01:52.38 | zoa | i'm gonna call like a thousand people with that message :) |
| 01:52.47 | zoa | and record all responses :) |
| 01:52.47 | bkw_ | zoa how did you call me? |
| 01:52.58 | zoa | E1 |
| 01:53.06 | zoa | how was the quality ? |
| 01:53.09 | zoa | recording was bad |
| 01:53.13 | zoa | but did it stutter ? |
| 01:53.28 | zoa | i mean: its not cd quality i sent you |
| 01:53.36 | zoa | its taken from his live performance in rome |
| 01:53.39 | zoa | some days ago |
| 01:53.40 | zoa | :) |
| 01:55.25 | jaxxan | exten => s,1,Wait,1 |
| 01:55.25 | jaxxan | ;--- wait one second before next line |
| 01:55.25 | jaxxan | exten => s,2,Answer |
| 01:55.25 | jaxxan | ;--- answer the incoming call |
| 01:55.25 | jaxxan | exten => s,3,Dial(SIP/377,30,Ttr) |
| 01:55.26 | jaxxan | ;--- transfer it to ext377 |
| 01:55.28 | jaxxan | exten => s,4,Hangup |
| 01:55.30 | jaxxan | ;--- end call when finished |
| 01:55.32 | jaxxan | right?????????????????????? |
| 01:55.36 | bkw_ | yes |
| 01:55.45 | jaxxan | still doesn't work |
| 01:55.46 | jaxxan | haha |
| 01:55.47 | zoa | it stuttered ? |
| 01:56.27 | ErikN | jaxxan: what does asterisk say? |
| 01:56.34 | ErikN | jaxxan: type set verbose 4 |
| 01:56.40 | jaxxan | N O T H I N G |
| 01:57.06 | jaxxan | it's so weird |
| 01:57.09 | JerJer | -r ? |
| 01:57.23 | ErikN | jaxxan: even with verbose set to 4? |
| 01:57.27 | jaxxan | the switch monkies attached 252-3000 to go through the PRI |
| 01:57.36 | jaxxan | when i dial 252-3000 it immediately hangs up the phone |
| 01:57.53 | jaxxan | when i try to make a call from asterisk through the pri... i get the following |
| 01:57.58 | ErikN | jaxxan: add this: _XXXXXXX,1,Goto(s,1) |
| 01:58.10 | jaxxan | -- Executing Dial("SIP/377-3f17", "Zap/g1/2581077|70|Tt") in new stack |
| 01:58.11 | jaxxan | -- Called g1/2581077 |
| 01:58.11 | jaxxan | -- Channel 2, span 1 got hangup |
| 01:58.11 | jaxxan | -- Hungup 'Zap/2-1' |
| 01:58.11 | jaxxan | == No one is available to answer at this time |
| 01:58.11 | jaxxan | -- Executing Macro("SIP/377-3f17", "fastbusy") in new stack |
| 01:58.29 | jaxxan | ErikN: add it where ? |
| 01:58.41 | jaxxan | just before what i already have ? |
| 01:58.48 | ErikN | jaxxan: add it somewhere before the s,* section |
| 01:59.09 | ErikN | jaxxan: or at the very end |
| 01:59.21 | jaxxan | ok |
| 01:59.28 | ErikN | jaxxan: also turn on debug : pri debug span 1 |
| 01:59.42 | ErikN | that'll give you the error codes from the telco (if any) |
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| 02:03.30 | jaxxan | i dont know what any of this stuff means truthfully |
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| 02:07.01 | *** mode/#asterisk [+bbb *!*dan@194.158.*.* *!*@og.latency.net *!*tofubar@*.attbi.com] by truong.freenode.net |
| 02:07.01 | *** mode/#asterisk [+bbb *!*shane@*.attbi.com *!*globalthr@*.attbi.com *!*NoHost@*.verizon.net] by truong.freenode.net |
| 02:07.01 | *** mode/#asterisk [+bb *!*carlossan@*.attbi.com *!*@*.va.client2.attbi.com] by truong.freenode.net |
| 02:07.01 | *** mode/#asterisk [+q sant!*@*] by truong.freenode.net |
| 02:08.19 | jaxxan | i know that was a net split rejoining though (= |
| 02:09.02 | jaxxan | ok, i'll wait for the switch tech to come back to work and make him believe it's all his fault that this isn't working |
| 02:10.06 | heison | does anyone know how to park calls on a 7960? |
| 02:10.14 | *** join/#asterisk solarizer (~newbie@solarizer.sby.rad.net.id) |
| 02:10.26 | jaxxan | push hold ? |
| 02:11.15 | heison | jaxxan: and...? |
| 02:15.24 | jrollyson | Having a bit of problems with AgentCallBackLogin - the wrapuptime is being ignored for AgentCallBackLogin agents. |
| 02:15.40 | jrollyson | anyone have a fix/workaround? |
| 02:16.12 | zoa | ask anthm |
| 02:18.31 | JerJer | so anybody got a good idea how to determine what an open pipe is actually doing? |
| 02:20.20 | heison | does anyone know how to transfer calls on a 7960? |
| 02:20.32 | JerJer | press the transfer button |
| 02:20.49 | heison | JerJer: do you have a 7960? |
| 02:20.59 | JerJer | most certianly |
| 02:21.03 | JerJer | more than a few |
| 02:21.23 | blll | jerjer: lsof? |
| 02:21.45 | JerJer | bill: yeah it shows that its open |
| 02:21.50 | JerJer | but i need to know what its doing |
| 02:21.58 | JerJer | can i like tee it or something? |
| 02:22.00 | blll | oh |
| 02:22.06 | zoa | jerjer: no idea |
| 02:22.13 | zoa | have been looking for it too |
| 02:22.14 | JerJer | we've found a leak in chan_h323 or Open H.323 |
| 02:22.18 | heison | after pressing the transfer button, I enter the exten that I wish to transfer to, the remote ext |
| 02:22.31 | heison | rings and what do i do after i pick it up? |
| 02:23.00 | zoa | jerjer, a friend of me once made a kernel patch, to fuxor around with open files |
| 02:23.08 | zoa | what it did exactly i can't remember :) |
| 02:23.09 | zoa | sorry :) |
| 02:23.11 | bkw_ | heison you just pick it up |
| 02:23.29 | zoa | after you pick up the phone |
| 02:23.37 | zoa | you normally start talking |
| 02:23.43 | zoa | or listening |
| 02:23.48 | heison | yeah, after picking up the new extension I still hear the hold music and the 7960 shows 2 connections... |
| 02:24.03 | JerJer | which transfer you doing? |
| 02:24.11 | zoa | attented ? |
| 02:24.11 | JerJer | blind transfer or just transfer ? |
| 02:24.15 | zoa | unattended ? |
| 02:24.19 | heison | transfer |
| 02:24.28 | JerJer | then u gota hit tranfer again |
| 02:24.48 | JerJer | once the party answers |
| 02:25.13 | beta3 | bkw_: how do you run a program like ser behind a router |
| 02:25.42 | heison | when i hit transfer the second time, I get a busy and puts me right into voicemail... |
| 02:25.43 | zoa | http://aircraftresourcecenter.com/TPC/Funny_Pictures/0001-1000/0401-0500/0459/0459.jpg --> i want that |
| 02:25.51 | bkw_ | JerJer you have any idea how to fix this? or maybe somethign we aren't calling to tear down the h323 call |
| 02:26.31 | *** join/#asterisk Lafinion_ (~Lafinion@test.incracow.com) |
| 02:26.35 | JerJer | if i could figure out what one of the two pipes are doing i could |
| 02:26.49 | bkw_ | ah |
| 02:26.53 | bkw_ | up for a conf call? |
| 02:26.57 | zoa | jerjer, you could try chan_oh323 |
| 02:27.03 | zoa | and see if the leak is the same |
| 02:27.10 | zoa | if it is, its a leak in open h323 |
| 02:27.11 | bkw_ | and takes cover |
| 02:27.15 | *** part/#asterisk Shido6 (~shido@d57-81-103.home.cgocable.net) |
| 02:27.21 | JerJer | bkw_: already in the cong |
| 02:27.22 | JerJer | conf |
| 02:27.36 | zoa | hey hey, i also want to talk dirty with you guys ! |
| 02:27.40 | zoa | I wanna plaaaaaaay |
| 02:29.15 | beta3 | bkw_: can't I do FWD - > IAXTEL numbers? |
| 02:30.25 | heison | JerJer: do you have the Confrn button greyed out? |
| 02:30.47 | zoa | swiet driems you all ! |
| 02:31.41 | *** join/#asterisk _Eagle_ (nick@wasteland.net) |
| 02:32.02 | _Eagle_ | howdy |
| 02:40.12 | *** join/#asterisk jimmyz (~jimmyz@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 02:41.17 | jimmyz | is anyone recording all phone calls to wav files on asterisk? |
| 02:43.45 | beta3 | could I tell calling someone's asterisk phone over iax |
| 02:44.36 | beta3 | s/tell/test/ |
| 02:45.14 | beta3 | is there like a test phone number you can dial on iax? |
| 02:47.58 | beta3 | anybody use ser here? |
| 02:51.22 | uranium238 | beta3: r u on iaxtel.com? |
| 02:51.35 | beta3 | no |
| 02:51.38 | beta3 | I can dial to them |
| 02:51.48 | beta3 | I need to test it |
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| 02:55.08 | Connor_ | ext3 slower or use more CPU than ext2 file systems? |
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| 02:55.29 | bkw_ | Connor_ this day and age it shoudln't matter |
| 02:55.32 | bkw_ | use reiserFS |
| 02:55.48 | eyeon | Anyone up for some newbie handholding? |
| 02:56.27 | eyeon | heison - how do I respond to just you? |
| 02:58.53 | beta3 | bkw_: do you use ser for sip? |
| 02:59.13 | bkw_ | NOPE |
| 02:59.16 | beta3 | heh |
| 02:59.30 | beta3 | asterisk will not work if its behind a nat |
| 02:59.35 | beta3 | the server it self is |
| 03:06.03 | denon | since when? |
| 03:06.21 | denon | Im guessing you could tunnel the right ports through and make it happen |
| 03:06.29 | denon | you'd need to tunnel a whole lotta udp |
| 03:06.32 | denon | but it should work |
| 03:08.18 | _Eagle_ | bkw: so, are you one of the people who told me they're doing the virtual/remote pbx thing with asterisk? |
| 03:08.45 | many | what is an virtual pbx? |
| 03:09.39 | _Eagle_ | many: basically, you host the servers at a colo center, then forward calls to the customer using voip over broadband or via TDM to their pots lines using outbound calls |
| 03:09.56 | _Eagle_ | so the customer doesnt have to buy a phone system, etc |
| 03:10.21 | _Eagle_ | you give them voicemail, automated attendants, call queueing, etc. |
| 03:13.21 | _Eagle_ | bkw? |
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| 03:21.44 | jcan | good nigh. |
| 03:22.32 | _Eagle_ | t |
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| 03:23.42 | _Eagle_ | having fun, joesmith? |
| 03:23.48 | joesmith | sorry |
| 03:24.46 | jcan | can anyone tell me how / where to look to configure featuers like 'call transfer, DND, call park ' and more? |
| 03:25.06 | *** part/#asterisk bobp (~bobp@ool-4352b8e0.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:25.44 | _Eagle_ | well, call transfer is simply a matter of hitting # and typing the extension you want to transfer to |
| 03:26.14 | _Eagle_ | your Dial() command in extensions.conf should be set to allow you to transfer the call |
| 03:27.10 | jcan | that's just my problem, i am seeing examples on how to setup basic stuff, extentions and the like, but not to configure the *real* pbx features. |
| 03:27.26 | jcan | can you point me in the direction of some examples please? |
| 03:27.36 | _Eagle_ | call park is configured in /etc/asterisk/parking.conf |
| 03:28.22 | _Eagle_ | in the command line interface, do a "show applications" to see the different things you can call from within extensions.conf |
| 03:28.40 | _Eagle_ | to see help for a specific applucation, like Dial(), do a "show application dial" |
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| 03:29.33 | _Eagle_ | i dont know how you would implement DND in asterisk |
| 03:29.46 | _Eagle_ | quite honestly, ive never used DND on any phone system, ever... |
| 03:29.53 | joesmith | you can do a direct forward to voice mail and set it via an ext |
| 03:30.02 | jcan | gee, thanks. |
| 03:30.56 | _Eagle_ | joesmith: but how you accomplish that? i mean, extensions.conf is pretty static in nature.... |
| 03:31.15 | _Eagle_ | just dialing an extension doesn't change the call routing of extensions.conf for the next call |
| 03:31.19 | joesmith | dbput and dbget |
| 03:31.23 | _Eagle_ | like, how would you set up call forwarding? |
| 03:31.36 | jcan | that was my next question |
| 03:31.48 | _Eagle_ | ahhh... put the number in a database, then call the value from extensions.conf using dbget? |
| 03:32.02 | _Eagle_ | oh thats cool |
| 03:32.18 | joesmith | i am using it in production |
| 03:32.40 | joesmith | users can dial a number and forward to voicemail after x rings, or setup a call forward to an external number |
| 03:33.09 | _Eagle_ | got an example of that config? |
| 03:33.10 | jcan | joesmith: know anywhere i can find docs that talk about this? |
| 03:35.18 | joesmith | jcan: how much time have you spend screwing around in asterisk |
| 03:35.32 | *** join/#asterisk boo (~boo@c-24-10-200-168.client.comcast.net) |
| 03:35.35 | jcan | 6 hours over 3 days. |
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| 03:37.15 | _Eagle_ | in dbget/dbput, what is the "family" in family/key ? |
| 03:37.51 | many | probably the same as "sections" in config files. |
| 03:41.01 | joesmith | http://www.sprackett.com/asterisk/conf/extensions.conf |
| 03:45.38 | bkw_ | _Eagle_ it can be anything |
| 03:45.55 | bkw_ | dbput(DUMBASS/EBAY=idiots) |
| 03:46.02 | bkw_ | dbget(yep=DUMBASS/EBAY) |
| 03:46.09 | bkw_ | ${yep} would bei idiots |
| 03:46.11 | bkw_ | er be |
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| 03:53.13 | jcan | thx |
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| 04:02.54 | _Eagle_ | cool |
| 04:02.58 | _Eagle_ | neat extensions.conf file |
| 04:03.00 | _Eagle_ | thanks |
| 04:03.14 | _Eagle_ | i dont understand about half of it |
| 04:03.16 | _Eagle_ | but its cool |
| 04:03.39 | _Eagle_ | anyone wanna tell me how macros work in extensions.conf? |
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| 04:07.13 | _Eagle_ | ah, never mind |
| 04:07.20 | _Eagle_ | i found "show application macro" |
| 04:07.38 | km- | pretty cool stuff |
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| 04:08.44 | km- | some of it lifted from jtodd's configs though |
| 04:10.38 | joesmith | its not mine, i just found an example online |
| 04:10.51 | joesmith | what i have done is under an NDA |
| 04:11.15 | km- | ooh nda's |
| 04:11.28 | bkw_ | nda for what? |
| 04:11.39 | joesmith | the extentions.conf |
| 04:11.39 | km- | "MYYY PRECIOUSSSS" |
| 04:11.47 | bkw_ | thats bullshit |
| 04:11.48 | km- | bkw: I'm analyzing your sip parking hack |
| 04:11.58 | bkw_ | km- goodluck |
| 04:12.00 | bkw_ | :P |
| 04:12.00 | km- | bkw: you goto default,${EXTEN:1},1 |
| 04:12.09 | km- | bkw: but technically that puts you in default,2XX,1 |
| 04:12.09 | bkw_ | my exten's are 2 digits |
| 04:12.12 | km- | oh |
| 04:12.14 | km- | I got ya |
| 04:12.14 | atacomm | bkw: jeff, the teleco rep guy i put you in touch with, gave me 65 passes to a club grand opening.... its like hello, i'm a geek, not going to step foot in the club....lol |
| 04:12.16 | bkw_ | so if i'm at exten 11 I park with 211 |
| 04:12.19 | km- | so if you park them to 211 |
| 04:12.21 | km- | ahhhhh |
| 04:12.38 | bkw_ | it calls me back with the parking number |
| 04:12.38 | km- | gotcha. |
| 04:12.52 | km- | it calls you back with the park? |
| 04:12.59 | bkw_ | yeppers |
| 04:13.04 | km- | interesting |
| 04:13.12 | bkw_ | joesmith your extensions.conf is under NDA? |
| 04:13.20 | km- | I find nda's very very amusing |
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| 04:13.34 | km- | even though we utilize them at work as well |
| 04:13.37 | atacomm | no disconnect agreement |
| 04:13.41 | atacomm | :) |
| 04:14.23 | km- | hehe |
| 04:14.29 | km- | now all I have to do is teach kristy how to call park |
| 04:14.35 | joesmith | I am doing it for a company and the entire project is under an nda |
| 04:14.47 | bkw_ | joesmith thats insane |
| 04:14.48 | km- | that's so weird |
| 04:14.52 | km- | it's a phone system |
| 04:14.55 | joesmith | since my extention.conf file has comments in it that would give away who the project is for.... |
| 04:15.00 | bkw_ | I can't imagine anything done in extensions.conf needing an NDA |
| 04:15.01 | joesmith | well its more then a phone system |
| 04:15.01 | atacomm | lol, well since everything you are doing has been done before |
| 04:15.17 | joesmith | its the whole (5) asterisk server install |
| 04:15.20 | atacomm | its a terrorist audible training hotline |
| 04:15.24 | km- | :P |
| 04:15.46 | km- | atacomm: see, I thought you were going to go there |
| 04:15.48 | bkw_ | joesmith remove the comments |
| 04:15.59 | atacomm | na, i'm a freedom fighter |
| 04:16.03 | bkw_ | atacomm haha |
| 04:16.08 | km- | I'm not interested enough in the extensions to make him work at it |
| 04:16.10 | km- | like atacomm said |
| 04:16.17 | km- | it's been done before, whatever he's got there :) |
| 04:16.22 | bkw_ | yep |
| 04:16.25 | bkw_ | and can and will be done again |
| 04:16.30 | km- | many, many times |
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| 04:16.37 | km- | in many better ways than even brian and I can figure out! |
| 04:16.40 | km- | bkw: that's great! |
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| 04:16.52 | km- | bkw: I'm glad to see you're hip on the doc project |
| 04:16.54 | atacomm | ~meepgun bkw_ |
| 04:16.57 | | ACTION shoots bkw_ with a ionized tachyon gun |
| 04:16.59 | atacomm | no dont give out secrets! |
| 04:17.05 | km- | haha |
| 04:17.13 | bkw_ | atacomm don't make me anal rape you with no lube! |
| 04:17.15 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 04:17.24 | km- | see, whenever I cook cool shit up |
| 04:17.28 | km- | it immediately goes into public domain |
| 04:17.33 | bkw_ | or I could use Penzoil 10W30 for lube! |
| 04:17.40 | bkw_ | km- same here |
| 04:17.41 | km- | that way I can't be accused of being a consumer |
| 04:17.44 | atacomm | because you are too stupid to find a way to make money from it ;) |
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| 04:17.58 | HenryTheBIG | Hi |
| 04:17.58 | bkw_ | atacomm shut you mouth! |
| 04:17.59 | km- | whoa there atacomm, speak for yourself! :P |
| 04:18.07 | atacomm | woah Henry, put it away, didnt need to see that |
| 04:18.10 | km- | I'm not the one running a failing hardware business! :P |
| 04:18.10 | bkw_ | atacomm and his mono .net crap |
| 04:18.18 | HenryTheBIG | I have a problem with the new * version |
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| 04:18.26 | atacomm | km: i made $5k profit this month before my one time server expense |
| 04:18.32 | km- | atacomm: niiiice |
| 04:18.37 | bkw_ | NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE |
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| 04:18.50 | km- | bkw: see, we're in the wrong fuxx0ring bizness |
| 04:18.52 | atacomm | i'm just hoping its not a one-time end of year tax write off spending spree |
| 04:18.59 | HenryTheBIG | I reinstall * from CVS and the sound is soooo bad now |
| 04:19.21 | bkw_ | did you redo zaptel? |
| 04:19.23 | atacomm | henry, did you update zaptel and libpri as well? |
| 04:19.29 | bkw_ | haha |
| 04:19.33 | HenryTheBIG | all |
| 04:19.36 | bkw_ | did you reboot? |
| 04:19.46 | HenryTheBIG | :) |
| 04:19.46 | atacomm | did you make clean? |
| 04:19.56 | HenryTheBIG | The * is working |
| 04:20.08 | km- | 3600 seconds is an hour right |
| 04:20.16 | HenryTheBIG | but the sound is bad, like with sparkles... |
| 04:20.51 | atacomm | when i updated the other day, * only had 10 commands that would work, and it couldnt load the config files..... then it stopped even letting me stop/start, and the processes couldnt be killed by killall, so I had to reboot the server.....and it worked fine....weird huh? |
| 04:20.53 | bkw_ | km- yes last I checked |
| 04:21.06 | atacomm | yeah it is, had to calculate it today |
| 04:21.21 | HenryTheBIG | I reinstall * on a new server |
| 04:21.22 | bkw_ | km- and here in oklahoma 86400 seconds = a day! |
| 04:21.29 | bkw_ | atacomm you had to think? |
| 04:21.48 | atacomm | bkw: yeah, its better to think |
| 04:21.51 | HenryTheBIG | I have the same .conf files |
| 04:21.55 | atacomm | bkw: you wouldnt know |
| 04:22.00 | bkw_ | atacomm shut up |
| 04:22.01 | bkw_ | haha |
| 04:22.05 | bkw_ | i'm smarter than you |
| 04:22.16 | atacomm | bkw: wouldnt count on it |
| 04:22.21 | bkw_ | atacomm atleast i'm smart enuf to sleep with men... |
| 04:22.25 | km- | bkw: I just farted and it stinks |
| 04:22.26 | bkw_ | :P |
| 04:22.34 | bkw_ | km- sorry dude can't help ya |
| 04:22.39 | atacomm | that aint very smart at all |
| 04:22.46 | bkw_ | atacomm yes it is.. FEELS GOOD! |
| 04:22.48 | bkw_ | haha |
| 04:22.52 | HenryTheBIG | some sugestions? |
| 04:22.52 | km- | ugh |
| 04:22.58 | km- | brian likes it in the pooper |
| 04:23.02 | bkw_ | haha |
| 04:23.31 | km- | bkw: I got a cleaveland steamer in the chamber, ready to be fired.. Don't tempt me! |
| 04:23.40 | boo | he likes reach arounds too |
| 04:23.44 | km- | hahaha |
| 04:23.48 | _Eagle_ | in extensions.conf, what does ":" do in a variable? |
| 04:24.03 | km- | _eagle_: if you have dialed an extension, say, 123456789 |
| 04:24.11 | km- | _eagle: if you do ${EXTEN:1}, it'll return 23456789 |
| 04:24.13 | _Eagle_ | it looks like $(EXTEN:3) trims off the first 3 digits? |
| 04:24.28 | km- | _eagle: if you do ${EXTEN:1:1), it'll return "2" I think |
| 04:24.31 | _Eagle_ | cool |
| 04:24.34 | km- | bkw check me |
| 04:24.46 | bkw_ | check what? |
| 04:24.48 | km- | ${EXTEN:1:1} means, skip first character and return next X characters? |
| 04:24.54 | km- | ${EXTEN:1:X} |
| 04:24.54 | bkw_ | yep |
| 04:24.59 | boo | ${EXTEN:666} summons satan |
| 04:25.01 | bkw_ | 0:1 would be the first only |
| 04:25.11 | km- | rock |
| 04:25.16 | _Eagle_ | cooool |
| 04:25.22 | _Eagle_ | there's some neat shit in here |
| 04:25.30 | km- | _eagle_: dude, it only gets better |
| 04:25.42 | bkw_ | NOTE bkw doesn't sign NDA's |
| 04:25.44 | km- | _eagle_: I spent a month and a half going "Whoa, Asterisk does this...TOOO?" "WHOA!" |
| 04:25.48 | bkw_ | my dog does |
| 04:26.05 | bkw_ | my dog has signed an NDA for me |
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| 04:26.38 | km- | bkw: let greg know that I bought a set of jack stands, so I don't have an unfortunate house burning incident :P |
| 04:26.46 | km- | bkw: gonna swap my spark plugs this weekend! YAY! |
| 04:26.49 | bkw_ | kewl |
| 04:27.00 | bkw_ | also what kind of liability do you have on your car? |
| 04:27.03 | bkw_ | we have 100k now |
| 04:27.07 | bkw_ | only 3 more dollars/mth |
| 04:27.09 | km- | I think we've got $50k |
| 04:27.13 | bkw_ | UP IT |
| 04:27.19 | bkw_ | beacuse their are cars that cost more than that |
| 04:27.27 | km- | what do you guys pay for your insurance? |
| 04:27.33 | bkw_ | 64/mth |
| 04:27.38 | km- | see |
| 04:27.41 | bkw_ | + 9.95/mth for my bike |
| 04:27.48 | km- | in populated areas |
| 04:27.54 | km- | people pay a lot more for car insurance :P |
| 04:27.59 | bkw_ | riiight |
| 04:28.06 | bkw_ | we have population here |
| 04:28.07 | km- | we pay $300 every quarter |
| 04:28.17 | bkw_ | damn we pay about that every 6 months |
| 04:28.24 | bkw_ | how old are you? |
| 04:28.35 | km- | and we have the lowest cost insurance you can get in PA short of safe auto |
| 04:28.39 | km- | 22 |
| 04:28.42 | bkw_ | thats why |
| 04:28.52 | bkw_ | when you turn 25 it magically drops |
| 04:28.52 | mishehu | shit, my auto insurance is around $700 every 6 months |
| 04:28.59 | mishehu | and I'm above 25. |
| 04:29.00 | bkw_ | and does your insurance company know your married now? |
| 04:29.04 | km- | yep |
| 04:29.06 | bkw_ | mishehu what do you drive? |
| 04:29.06 | km- | cut the cost in half |
| 04:29.08 | bkw_ | and how many tickets? |
| 04:29.12 | km- | it used to be $600 every quarter |
| 04:29.24 | mishehu | bkw_: 2003 corolla le... |
| 04:29.24 | bkw_ | <-- ZERO tickets |
| 04:29.29 | km- | I had 1 speeding ticket |
| 04:29.31 | mishehu | not exactly a mercedes |
| 04:29.33 | km- | 84 in a 65 zone |
| 04:29.37 | km- | I dodged the bullet |
| 04:29.37 | bkw_ | mishehu but how many accidents |
| 04:29.44 | mishehu | I had 1 ticket too. 75 in a 55. |
| 04:29.51 | bkw_ | THERE ya go |
| 04:29.59 | km- | bkw: dude, I'm telling you, people who live in metropolises pay a lot more for insurance |
| 04:30.05 | bkw_ | km- I know better |
| 04:30.16 | mishehu | bkw_: usually it takes 2 tickets here for insurance to go up. |
| 04:30.24 | km- | brian |
| 04:30.31 | bkw_ | km- you can make a trip to NCO FINANCIAL SYSTEMS INC |
| 04:30.31 | km- | tulsa's population is smaller than my suburb! |
| 04:30.37 | bkw_ | Tulsa is not |
| 04:30.37 | mishehu | bkw_: I used to pay $500 every quarter for driving a 1990 plymouth acclaim just before I turned 25. |
| 04:30.39 | mishehu | err |
| 04:30.42 | mishehu | not every quarter |
| 04:30.43 | km- | gah |
| 04:30.45 | bkw_ | its one of the top 10 cities |
| 04:30.47 | mishehu | every 6 months I mean |
| 04:30.50 | km- | fine, let me get some demographics |
| 04:30.59 | bkw_ | or was it the top 10 gay cities |
| 04:31.03 | bkw_ | but its up there |
| 04:31.08 | mishehu | NCO Financial? isn't that a friendly collection agency? |
| 04:31.14 | bkw_ | mishehu nope |
| 04:31.17 | JerJer | hmm |
| 04:31.24 | bkw_ | I get a notice for something but its not mine and they even said so |
| 04:31.31 | bkw_ | but yet they still send me notices |
| 04:31.32 | JerJer | could I read from the pipe to get info |
| 04:31.36 | km- | 393049 |
| 04:31.41 | km- | tulsa's population as of 2000 |
| 04:31.45 | JerJer | 8674309 |
| 04:31.48 | JerJer | d'oh |
| 04:31.53 | mishehu | bkw_: then you mean "nope" to the "friendly" part right? |
| 04:32.02 | bkw_ | km- you need to include broken arrorw also |
| 04:32.07 | bkw_ | and all the surrounding cities |
| 04:32.16 | bkw_ | mishehu yep |
| 04:32.31 | bkw_ | i'm sending 3 certified letters tommorow |
| 04:32.44 | km- | MONTGOMERY COUNTY HISTORY & FACTS |
| 04:32.46 | _Eagle_ | thats 8675309 jer |
| 04:32.46 | mishehu | because I've never heard of "friendly" and "collection agency" used in the same paragraph unless the "friendly" was preceded by a negating word such as "not" |
| 04:32.54 | bkw_ | saying basically "This isnt my debt. You contact me again I WILL SUE YOUR ASS at your expense!" |
| 04:32.56 | km- | POPULATION: 700,000, third highest in Pennsylvania. |
| 04:33.05 | km- | bkw: what county do you live in |
| 04:33.07 | km- | we'll make it even |
| 04:33.20 | bkw_ | i'm in pittsburge.. but tulsa county is where tulsa is |
| 04:33.31 | mishehu | bkw_: nco was calling me harassing me for $50 they thought I owed speakeasy. turns out, speakeasy owed ME $50. but I had to argue and yell at 3 idiots at NCO before they could figure it out. |
| 04:33.45 | bkw_ | mishehu this is only 217 bucks |
| 04:33.51 | bkw_ | but if they mark my credit i'm going to be pissed |
| 04:34.01 | bkw_ | how long can that stay on my credit I wonder |
| 04:34.13 | km- | Tulsa 571,300 563,299 |
| 04:34.19 | km- | eat it you fag! over 200,000 more people! :) |
| 04:34.23 | bkw_ | SO |
| 04:34.29 | bkw_ | we have more fags here |
| 04:34.32 | bkw_ | :P |
| 04:34.37 | bkw_ | oh wait your in PA |
| 04:34.38 | bkw_ | you win |
| 04:34.44 | km- | hahaha |
| 04:34.46 | km- | not really |
| 04:34.48 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 04:34.49 | km- | since we kill our gays here |
| 04:35.01 | _Eagle_ | we have about 5 million people in our MSA |
| 04:35.02 | km- | remember, PA is pittsburgh------->ALABAMA<-------philadelphia |
| 04:35.04 | bkw_ | I wonder if I can take these ASSHATS to small claims court |
| 04:35.26 | mishehu | bkw_: 3 years I think. and you basically have to sue them to remove an inaccurate mark on your credit, because you are always "guilty" in their eyes, even if you aren't. |
| 04:35.40 | bkw_ | mishehu HAHA no you don't |
| 04:35.55 | bkw_ | they are gone |
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| 04:36.17 | Moc | damn forgot to post this bug with agi that crash * second time it run .. |
| 04:36.19 | _Eagle_ | bkw: who says you owe them $217 that you dont? |
| 04:36.25 | bkw_ | _Eagle_ ebay |
| 04:36.33 | bkw_ | and I even called them and my account is in good standing |
| 04:36.38 | bkw_ | they have no CLUE what this is |
| 04:36.45 | bkw_ | NCO says its a David Cunningham |
| 04:36.46 | _Eagle_ | sounds like a scam |
| 04:36.50 | mishehu | bkw_: I've heard some horror stories from other people I know saying that they couldn't get innacurate marks removed because the person at the agency that filed the mark was unresponsive to the credit agency's inquiries. |
| 04:36.53 | bkw_ | but yet its still got my name on it |
| 04:37.07 | km- | bkw: how much did you sell the ATA's for? |
| 04:37.08 | bkw_ | mishehu you can get them removed |
| 04:37.12 | bkw_ | km- they are still going |
| 04:37.29 | mishehu | bkw_: get NCO to give you in writing that the $217 isn't yours. |
| 04:37.38 | bkw_ | i'm going to record the call tommorow when I call |
| 04:37.40 | bkw_ | put it on CD |
| 04:37.50 | bkw_ | and Mail them a copy certified |
| 04:37.52 | km- | bkw: how much are they going for? |
| 04:38.05 | bkw_ | 105 and 99 |
| 04:38.05 | mishehu | isn't it illegal to record the conversation without prior notice? |
| 04:38.12 | bkw_ | mishehu the joy of Oklahoma |
| 04:38.18 | mishehu | (illegal in that you can't use it as evidence) |
| 04:38.21 | bkw_ | mishehu I don't have to tell anyone anything |
| 04:38.24 | bob1 | I am getting zt_chanconfig failed on channel2: no such device or address (6) |
| 04:38.28 | bkw_ | mishehu nope not in Oklahoma |
| 04:38.51 | bob1 | but the system starts...and works for two days... the modules load |
| 04:38.53 | km- | bob1: that's a normal error if you have not loaded all o fthe drivers |
| 04:39.03 | km- | bob1: you have 1 FXO card and 1 FXS, I take it? |
| 04:39.09 | bob1 | yup |
| 04:39.10 | km- | bob1: and the problem happens when you modprobe wcfxo |
| 04:39.15 | bob1 | yup |
| 04:39.25 | km- | bob1: yeah, it's normal, it's saying ztconfig can't run completely because the wcxfs module isn't loaded yet |
| 04:39.34 | bkw_ | wcfxs |
| 04:39.38 | bkw_ | :P |
| 04:39.51 | km- | wcfuxyou! |
| 04:39.52 | bkw_ | anyway I emailed ebay and I have nasty letters ready for NCO |
| 04:40.06 | km- | bkw: what are your auctions so I can check out current bids |
| 04:40.16 | bob1 | ok.....hmmmm. ok then thats noit the problem...:-) |
| 04:40.28 | bkw_ | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51204&item=3067464334 |
| 04:40.29 | km- | bob1: what's the problem you're having? |
| 04:40.35 | bkw_ | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51204&item=3067464478 |
| 04:41.10 | bob1 | after about two days I get scratching noise on channel 1. then it goes to the rest of the channels |
| 04:41.22 | km- | scratching noise, huh |
| 04:41.24 | km- | hmm |
| 04:41.30 | km- | and you're using latest CVS? |
| 04:41.43 | Corydon76-home | There are some form letters that you can send to the credit agency. If you contest any debt, they have 30 days to show you why they won't remove or they must remove it. Federal Law. |
| 04:42.07 | bkw_ | YEP |
| 04:42.27 | bob1 | its uh...cvs-11/23 |
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| 04:42.36 | Corydon76-home | Tell them you hold them responsible for any decisions made based upon their rating, and they move fast. |
| 04:42.39 | JerJer | Corydon76-home: ABSOLUTELY! |
| 04:42.41 | bkw_ | bob1 cd /usr/src/asterisk/ && make update |
| 04:42.53 | km- | bob1: that's really odd, I havent heard scratching in zap channels before in my setup |
| 04:42.54 | JerJer | Corydon76-home: not necessarily :) |
| 04:43.08 | bkw_ | they have to provide proof of debt |
| 04:43.09 | bob1 | I'm thinking bad hardware |
| 04:43.25 | km- | bob1: if it was bad hardware it wouldn't be happening consistently after the 2nd day |
| 04:43.26 | JerJer | if the debt is old enough all the records have been moved to microfilm (or fiche?) |
| 04:43.44 | JerJer | and retriving them is a time consuming process |
| 04:43.47 | Corydon76-home | I had a HellSouth debt removed with that. In addition, if that wasn't enough, I have evidence they violated the law twice with respect to that alleged debt. |
| 04:43.50 | JerJer | (read: expensive ) |
| 04:44.12 | km- | jerjer: but if they recover those records, can't they charge you the processing fees? |
| 04:44.17 | Moc | I've missed a ebay on a 83$ TDM10 + X100P card today :( |
| 04:44.24 | km- | moc: $83!!! |
| 04:44.33 | JerJer | km-: nope |
| 04:44.34 | bob1 | km-: if it is bad hardware, I would think it would happen right away |
| 04:44.35 | Corydon76-home | km-: not if the records were wrong |
| 04:44.37 | km- | moc: jesus, why didn't you tell someone in here about it if you knew you were going to lose it |
| 04:44.38 | Moc | yes 83 !!! |
| 04:44.42 | mishehu | I heard from a friend that had an outstanding debt that was sold from one collection agency to another and to another. He ended up with 3 total bad marks on his credit rating for the same debt. |
| 04:44.55 | JerJer | mishehu: oh yeah, most certianly |
| 04:44.57 | Moc | I wasn't supose to lose it... I remember 10 min after it closed @!#$%^ |
| 04:44.58 | bob1 | km-: I did have a module go bad on it and digium sent me a new one |
| 04:45.16 | km- | moc: you need a bid sniping program |
| 04:45.27 | bkw_ | mishehu thats bullshit .. I hate credit |
| 04:45.29 | JerJer | mishehu: i had one debt that i knew i had, but i let it go so long it was sold a few times |
| 04:45.31 | bkw_ | everything is linked to it |
| 04:45.33 | mishehu | JerJer: it doesn't make sense to me, it's the same liability. it is irrelevant how many collection agencies handle the debt, it's the same money. |
| 04:45.39 | Moc | I guess .. Well I hope i've learned my leason .. |
| 04:45.39 | _Eagle_ | http://www.bkw.org/~brian/extensions.conf = file not found |
| 04:45.52 | bkw_ | _Eagle_ its in asterisk-conf |
| 04:45.55 | _Eagle_ | you hiding extensions.conf now? |
| 04:46.00 | bkw_ | http://www.bkw.org/~brian/asterisk-conf |
| 04:46.07 | bkw_ | DIG AROUND BOY |
| 04:46.29 | bkw_ | everyone watch out.. the gov is hunting teworwists |
| 04:46.32 | JerJer | so then when i pulled my credit reports there was like 3 different agencies that said i owed various different amounts of money....each like 5%-10% difference |
| 04:46.34 | bkw_ | SHHH |
| 04:46.37 | Moc | yea bkw_, does your ebaying doing well for your ata-186 ? |
| 04:46.47 | km- | OH THOSE FUCKERS. |
| 04:46.48 | bkw_ | Moc yes |
| 04:46.56 | km- | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3068850018&category=3309 |
| 04:46.59 | km- | who's malibu tech |
| 04:47.01 | JerJer | agencies = listings on my credit report...debitors ? |
| 04:47.06 | JerJer | yeah that's da word |
| 04:47.07 | mishehu | imagine if our ebay ratings were used for credit card apps |
| 04:47.11 | km- | show yourself cockwhore! |
| 04:47.27 | Moc | km-: it a preproduction buy .. it mean you will have to pay 500$ more to receive the card |
| 04:47.33 | bkw_ | km- its the same guy selling the x100p for 49 bucks |
| 04:47.39 | km- | moc: yeah |
| 04:47.39 | mishehu | JerJer: how did you clear them off? |
| 04:47.40 | Moc | Malibu Tech make Clone |
| 04:47.42 | km- | moc: but I want to know who it is |
| 04:47.43 | Moc | of digium card |
| 04:47.47 | bkw_ | no its not a clone |
| 04:47.50 | km- | moc: so I can be sure to never, ever give them any support in the channel |
| 04:47.50 | bkw_ | its the same damn card |
| 04:47.56 | bkw_ | but I wouldn't trust it |
| 04:47.58 | km- | moc: and never,ever purchase any services from them |
| 04:47.59 | km- | ever |
| 04:48.15 | JerJer | This Auction is for a PRE-PURCHASE Fee on the first set of T400P and E400P cards that we will be producing |
| 04:48.17 | km- | free market yes, but digium makes money and offers code to the community |
| 04:48.28 | bkw_ | so |
| 04:48.34 | bkw_ | the hardware is open also |
| 04:48.39 | km- | what is malibu tech doing for asterisk, besides selling knockoffs? |
| 04:48.44 | Moc | yes, I didnt know before I bought 2 :( ... I redim myself in buying a TDM400 |
| 04:48.58 | bkw_ | km- bet they are here watching |
| 04:49.03 | km- | oh I bet they are |
| 04:49.06 | km- | that's why they're not talking |
| 04:49.26 | km- | they're going to get a serious beat down if we ever have an asterisk conference |
| 04:49.36 | km- | I'm going to imprint "LOUISVILLE SLUGGER" square on their forehead |
| 04:49.50 | mishehu | bkw_: just waiting until you're bored enough to follow thru on that statement? ;-) |
| 04:49.50 | km- | bkw: that's different though |
| 04:49.58 | km- | bkw: you put time and effort into the asterisk project |
| 04:50.13 | km- | so far nobody has come forward to defend themselves for project reinvestment |
| 04:50.23 | km- | bkw: we have the right to make money, like digium, because we provide back |
| 04:50.41 | km- | bkw: you're not a parasite to the project, y'know! |
| 04:50.45 | kent | hello |
| 04:50.56 | Moc | Well asterisk is great, need alot of error handling still, but it beat anything we looked at for the office .. |
| 04:51.56 | *** join/#asterisk Phil21 (~Phil21@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 04:51.59 | blitzrage | asterisk is the best open source pbx system you will ever find |
| 04:52.13 | Moc | I got 2 problem with *, stability (it good, but could be better), and phone doesnt have same feature as old Meridian 1 (2616) phone |
| 04:52.19 | Phil21 | hmm, anyone know if there is a means w/ the digium T100P to tell link-state? (is my PRI live or dead?!) |
| 04:52.34 | km- | phil21: the T1 will go into red alarm if it's down |
| 04:52.34 | blitzrage | I've never had stability problems with asterisk... |
| 04:52.45 | kent | I was looking at vocal and then I found asterisk |
| 04:52.49 | km- | asterisk's only been flakey with me if I used H323 |
| 04:52.58 | Moc | * tend to crash kind of easily. 1 process make all the others crash |
| 04:53.00 | Phil21 | km-: does the card have a red alarm light on it? |
| 04:53.01 | km- | my FXO card locked up yesterday |
| 04:53.02 | km- | but that's about it |
| 04:53.06 | blitzrage | then something isn't setup right :) |
| 04:53.08 | Phil21 | (it's remote, can have folks look) |
| 04:53.15 | km- | phil21: no, but you can use the zttool program in the zaptel source to check status of all cards in the system |
| 04:53.20 | Moc | if only 1 call crashed, might be less of a problem, but all call is cut off |
| 04:53.20 | Phil21 | ah, cool |
| 04:53.24 | Phil21 | lemme see |
| 04:53.41 | bkw_ | mishehu if I did that it would hurt digium also |
| 04:53.43 | mishehu | hmm... I wonder why all my pics of the rice fields came out with a yellow undertone... |
| 04:53.44 | km- | moc: are you getting debug traces and sending them to developers? |
| 04:53.46 | Phil21 | documentation on this is rather sparse (or hardish to find.) sorry for bugging you |
| 04:54.12 | km- | phil21: our pleasure to help |
| 04:54.13 | JerJer | reflected |
| 04:54.16 | km- | phil21: more users the merrier! |
| 04:54.30 | Moc | km-: Yes, Got 2 post so far, and just found another problem with AGI, added it to a post made today and will give BT soon |
| 04:55.04 | mishehu | bkw_: well, there's always the goon squad from the err... asterisk union local 8484 |
| 04:55.09 | km- | moc: good job |
| 04:55.12 | Moc | Digium should make IP Phone Prototype board and sell them |
| 04:55.16 | km- | moc: someone will get to the bottom of it! |
| 04:55.16 | Phil21 | hrm, no zttool program in the source that I see (see ztcfg, ztspeed, ztmonitor) |
| 04:55.26 | bkw_ | Moc its called the IAXy |
| 04:55.27 | JerJer | teamsters |
| 04:55.37 | bkw_ | Phil21 you have to have libnewt installed |
| 04:55.37 | JerJer | we break ppls legs for running RADIUS |
| 04:55.40 | km- | phil21: your system may not have newt installed, so it's not being compiled |
| 04:55.44 | km- | jerjer: hahaha |
| 04:55.49 | Moc | IAXy it just a ATA-186 (Well alot better and smaller ATA-186) |
| 04:56.09 | Moc | but yes, once you get this out, it easy to change design and make a phone hehe.. |
| 04:56.19 | Phil21 | hrm, sec. |
| 04:56.33 | km- | I never really fiddled with radius |
| 04:56.37 | Phil21 | nice |
| 04:56.39 | *** part/#asterisk balleman (~balleman@martha.pa.net) |
| 04:56.42 | JerJer | i would shut ppl up |
| 04:56.44 | Phil21 | works.. alarms : OK |
| 04:56.47 | Phil21 | so I suppose it's all good |
| 04:56.49 | km- | I'm still thinking of redesigning my porn site using postgresql as the backend DB |
| 04:56.53 | JerJer | but most morons want it for user/peer's also |
| 04:56.53 | bkw_ | JerJer it sure would |
| 04:57.06 | bkw_ | km- pr0n? |
| 04:57.08 | Moc | km-: Mysql !!! |
| 04:57.12 | km- | bkw: oh hell yeah |
| 04:57.19 | km- | bkw: I used to be a member of the porngods society! |
| 04:57.23 | bkw_ | JerJer that should really be plugable |
| 04:57.25 | blitzrage | lol |
| 04:57.25 | km- | moc: no, postgresql. I'm a convert |
| 04:57.33 | bkw_ | NO mysql |
| 04:57.34 | km- | moc: postgresql like 300% faster |
| 04:57.37 | JerJer | no csv |
| 04:57.39 | Moc | never liked postgresql |
| 04:57.43 | bkw_ | haha |
| 04:57.46 | km- | I didnt like it either till I played with it |
| 04:57.47 | JerJer | db1 |
| 04:57.49 | km- | postgresql behaves nicely |
| 04:57.51 | blitzrage | I use mysql because I don't know how to use anything else :) |
| 04:57.54 | bkw_ | km- same can be said for straight boys |
| 04:58.03 | km- | bkw: oh god :P |
| 04:58.10 | rpb | Postgres also has transactions. |
| 04:58.14 | Moc | I had to play with it for OpenGroupware... And I still hope they will get a mysql module soon.. |
| 04:58.18 | Phil21 | well, at least I know the PRI is up. Now just gotta figure out why calls are failing. :) |
| 04:58.18 | km- | postgres also has triggers |
| 04:58.26 | bkw_ | km- so do guns |
| 04:58.39 | km- | brian, do you have any idea how useful triggers are in DB's? |
| 04:58.41 | Moc | You guys piss me off, you all seem to have PRI available to play with !! |
| 04:58.53 | bkw_ | Moc ya really.. I want a PRI also |
| 04:58.55 | km- | moc: hahah, yeah, brian and I wish |
| 04:59.06 | bkw_ | hell I would take CT1 at this point |
| 04:59.24 | bkw_ | km- just send me one |
| 04:59.30 | Moc | oh Lookback pri, i could do that .. |
| 04:59.40 | km- | dude I can't even afford my beach house |
| 04:59.52 | km- | oh wait, is that telling too much? :P |
| 04:59.54 | rpb | So after a cdr is written, you can do a trigger to update stuff? |
| 04:59.58 | Moc | I hate that, I got 4 T1 at the office, but it a lawfirm, can't really play with them hey .. |
| 04:59.59 | km- | rpb: yep |
| 05:00.01 | *** part/#asterisk ___log (~stats@asterisk.toad.net) |
| 05:00.02 | *** join/#asterisk ___log (~stats@asterisk.toad.net) |
| 05:00.24 | rpb | You have an example of that? Or dead easy from looking at the postgres docs? |
| 05:00.31 | km- | rpb: we use triggers in EDI/ERP to fire off events based on data |
| 05:00.41 | km- | I dont know how they work in postgres |
| 05:00.42 | Moc | I could play with the VideoConference PRI !!! |
| 05:00.44 | km- | I know they're available |
| 05:00.46 | Moc | at night |
| 05:00.55 | km- | I could tell you sorta how they work on an AS/400 |
| 05:00.56 | km- | :P |
| 05:01.01 | _Eagle_ | ive got a PRI |
| 05:01.06 | rpb | Pretty reliable? Ie, I don't have to worry about cdr's getting lost in the shuffle, or missing triggers or anything like that? |
| 05:01.11 | _Eagle_ | but the drawback is my server is 45 minutes away |
| 05:01.22 | rpb | ah, ok. |
| 05:01.26 | km- | well, cdrs can be lost if the DB is down |
| 05:01.36 | km- | I bet postgres's trigger support is very reliable |
| 05:01.41 | rpb | Assuming that the cdr gets into the db of course. |
| 05:01.49 | km- | yeah |
| 05:02.52 | bkw_ | backup |
| 05:03.22 | km- | it'd be nice |
| 05:03.33 | bkw_ | just don't use an AS/400 and DB2 |
| 05:03.38 | km- | hahaha |
| 05:03.43 | denon | backup at that level? why not just let db clustering handle that? |
| 05:03.44 | km- | I ran time trials on our fastest 400 at work |
| 05:03.49 | km- | and postgresql still kicked its ass |
| 05:04.04 | km- | however, we're apparently going to be getting a $1m+ as/400 soon |
| 05:04.08 | km- | so it might be pretty damned fast |
| 05:04.08 | km- | :P |
| 05:04.46 | Moc | a Quad Xeon 2MB cache running linux and mysql/postgresql might be fast ennuf I guess |
| 05:05.26 | km- | moc: my p3 733 with 256mb ram and postgresql works fast |
| 05:05.35 | *** join/#asterisk Kilroy (Kilroy@69.57.191.130) |
| 05:05.41 | km- | moc: inserts happend 31 times faster than our as/400, selects were 21 times faster |
| 05:05.52 | UnixDawg | how do you park a call |
| 05:06.03 | Phil21 | hrm, what would cause call timeouts destined to a PRI.. (inbound #'s don't work either.. says # not in service) |
| 05:06.09 | Moc | agi-test.agi |
| 05:06.16 | Phil21 | is PRI just not "on" telco end, or is it likely something I'm fucking up? :) |
| 05:06.20 | km- | unixdawg: pull it into the spot, shift to park (or first gear if manual transmission), depress the parking brake and then turn the phone off! |
| 05:06.23 | UnixDawg | i know it exten 701-709 |
| 05:06.29 | bkw_ | Tt |
| 05:06.29 | UnixDawg | hahaha |
| 05:06.32 | bkw_ | Tt |
| 05:06.35 | UnixDawg | ok |
| 05:06.48 | mishehu | bkw has tourrette's syndrome! |
| 05:06.55 | km- | nah |
| 05:06.59 | km- | he's got blubbering idiot syndrome |
| 05:07.00 | km- | :P |
| 05:07.03 | mishehu | only that it's of the asterisk form of tourrettes |
| 05:07.14 | bkw_ | haha |
| 05:07.27 | Moc | Ok ppl telling me * support about 50 or so call on a box, but how can it handle 4xE1 witch is what 120 channels ? |
| 05:07.37 | Moc | might go to 100call on a dual but still |
| 05:07.38 | km- | moc: who's telling you only 50 calls? |
| 05:08.03 | km- | moc: jerjer has maxed out two te410P's in a conference before |
| 05:08.04 | Moc | I saw this in a Mark document somewhere |
| 05:08.14 | km- | moc: it's highly dependent on hardware speed and such |
| 05:08.30 | bkw_ | yep |
| 05:08.31 | km- | if you're using a dual xeon |
| 05:08.34 | bkw_ | HARDWARE |
| 05:08.38 | km- | asides from the fact that asterisk misbehaves on SMP |
| 05:08.50 | km- | you should be fine putting 8 E1's into the box |
| 05:09.00 | kent | SMP is bad? |
| 05:09.06 | *** join/#asterisk jorgerai (~jorgeraid@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 05:09.07 | km- | well, it misbehaves |
| 05:09.14 | km- | people are still working on getting the kinks out |
| 05:09.15 | bkw_ | Badger, Badger, Badger, Mushroom, Mushroom! Ahh! Snake! |
| 05:09.16 | Moc | 8 E1... 240 channel .. ok well that alot .. |
| 05:09.30 | jorgerai | hello |
| 05:09.32 | km- | SMP isn't bad, it's very very good |
| 05:09.39 | km- | it's just not completely stable with asterisk at the moment |
| 05:09.42 | kent | do you know is there any plan to support GR303? |
| 05:09.51 | km- | what's that? |
| 05:09.52 | jorgerai | hey I need to know how I configured my voice email in my asterisk? |
| 05:09.55 | bkw_ | km- I gots a box with SMP and a T100P and its stable |
| 05:10.05 | km- | bkw: how'd you get a T100P bitch! |
| 05:10.06 | Moc | I wonder how many outgoing call I can do throught NuFone |
| 05:10.09 | km- | bkw: holding out on me! |
| 05:10.11 | bkw_ | km- its a clients box |
| 05:10.13 | Moc | and incoming .. |
| 05:10.13 | bkw_ | not mine |
| 05:10.16 | kent | it is like TR08 |
| 05:10.17 | km- | bkw: ah, shit |
| 05:10.22 | km- | moc: how much bandwidth ya got? |
| 05:10.24 | bkw_ | my 7960 is registerd with that box |
| 05:10.29 | Moc | 100mbits |
| 05:10.33 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPowr (~werecat@ip68-107-251-114.no.no.cox.net) |
| 05:10.34 | bkw_ | hey I wanna test something |
| 05:10.36 | km- | moc: no, to the internet |
| 05:10.42 | Moc | 100mbits |
| 05:10.43 | km- | moc: that is unless you do have 100mbit to the general internet |
| 05:10.47 | kent | it is switch to remote signaling |
| 05:10.48 | km- | well |
| 05:10.50 | km- | if you use gsm |
| 05:10.52 | bkw_ | someone try to *67 this number 2403659751 |
| 05:11.25 | kent | was looking at way to tun this into Voip gateway but need good way of getting back to PSTN |
| 05:11.33 | km- | moc: something like 34,000 calls? |
| 05:11.39 | Moc | omg .. |
| 05:11.41 | km- | moc: of course you really wont have that much |
| 05:11.44 | bkw_ | someone try to *67 this number 2403659751 |
| 05:11.47 | bkw_ | PLEASE |
| 05:11.49 | km- | moc: if you're using gsm with IAX2 trunking |
| 05:11.55 | km- | bkw: no phone usage at midnight, kristy's asleep! |
| 05:12.02 | bkw_ | why? |
| 05:12.09 | bkw_ | OH PLEASE PLEASE |
| 05:12.09 | km- | phones ringing loud |
| 05:12.11 | km- | besides |
| 05:12.15 | bkw_ | no you call it.. not me call you |
| 05:12.16 | bkw_ | duh |
| 05:12.17 | km- | how the hell do I dial *67 out of Zap/1 |
| 05:12.29 | blitzrage | what am I doing again ? :) |
| 05:12.53 | Moc | same here |
| 05:13.00 | Moc | oh well gold..forgot the 9 ;) |
| 05:13.07 | km- | moc: oh, I'm sorry, it's like 5,000 calls |
| 05:13.15 | km- | moc: too many 1024's in there |
| 05:13.27 | blitzrage | wow.. I can't even do 2 reloads in a row... |
| 05:13.30 | Moc | wtf is that ? |
| 05:13.56 | km- | *CLI> show version |
| 05:13.56 | km- | Asterisk CVS-12/09/03-19:50:05 built by root@astpbx1 on a i686 running Linux |
| 05:14.00 | km- | I just did 6 reloads in a row |
| 05:14.10 | blitzrage | wierd... very wierd |
| 05:14.11 | Moc | asking me my # |
| 05:14.12 | km- | AHHH |
| 05:14.13 | km- | it crashed |
| 05:14.14 | km- | ;P |
| 05:14.17 | blitzrage | 12/27/03 |
| 05:14.20 | blitzrage | LOL |
| 05:14.33 | ErikN | why would I get Constraining jitter buffer on a local network iax session? |
| 05:14.41 | Moc | bkw_: it asking me my # |
| 05:14.42 | blitzrage | it just hangs up at the CLI... I can type.. but no commands do anything |
| 05:14.53 | km- | blitzrage: it crashed hard for me |
| 05:15.00 | blitzrage | wow.. no good |
| 05:15.10 | Moc | after that it ring until I get to a voicemail witch seem bogus |
| 05:15.17 | blitzrage | welp.. I'm off to watch some TV now... |
| 05:15.45 | Moc | who is in JerJer conference ? |
| 05:15.57 | JerJer | not me |
| 05:16.06 | JerJer | smells like km- |
| 05:16.08 | blitzrage | not me.. but I could be :) |
| 05:16.16 | Moc | he is not speaking |
| 05:16.23 | km- | not me |
| 05:16.29 | km- | I'm not in conference |
| 05:16.32 | JerJer | lol |
| 05:16.40 | km- | jerjer: 66.92.234.10 is my ip |
| 05:16.45 | km- | if someone's in conference they shouldn't be |
| 05:17.00 | km- | #0 0x40154b29 in mallopt () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 05:17.00 | km- | #1 0x40153d33 in malloc () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 05:17.00 | km- | #2 0x08051e5c in ast_sched_add (con=0x40212d74, when=1075916032, |
| 05:17.00 | km- | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.00 | km- | #3 0x403645ad in attempt_transmit (data=0x813c2b0) at chan_iax.c:1154 |
| 05:17.07 | km- | I take it reload leaks memory like a mofo |
| 05:17.38 | *** join/#asterisk Gazzas (Gazzas@c211-28-134-93.eburwd3.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 05:17.52 | Gazzas | Hi All |
| 05:18.08 | blitzrage | km-: why can't I be in the conference? |
| 05:18.17 | km- | I'm just telling jerjer |
| 05:18.23 | km- | if they're in through my line they shouldn't be :) |
| 05:18.23 | blitzrage | oh I see |
| 05:18.31 | km- | man, who's popping my box |
| 05:18.34 | km- | the harddrive is spinning |
| 05:18.46 | km- | grind grind grind |
| 05:18.46 | km- | ooh |
| 05:18.47 | km- | poor things |
| 05:18.59 | km- | RSA certificates sure make you unhappy huh |
| 05:19.00 | JerJer | that new ssh worm gotcha :) |
| 05:19.04 | km- | no hackey-hack on my box :P |
| 05:19.07 | km- | jerjer: there's a new one? |
| 05:19.11 | km- | well fizz-uk! |
| 05:19.17 | JerJer | lol i was trolling for that response :) |
| 05:19.22 | Moc | blitzrage: Might the echo on your side |
| 05:19.29 | Moc | it stop now |
| 05:19.36 | km- | jerjer: for shizzle, there's a new ssh worm? |
| 05:19.38 | blitzrage | Moc: very wierd... I don't hear any echo at all |
| 05:19.54 | blitzrage | km-: can you join the conference and see if you get echo ? |
| 05:19.59 | km- | sure |
| 05:20.18 | blitzrage | let me know when you are there, and Moc, see if you get echo from km-.. then I will join and we'll see if there is something wierd on my end |
| 05:20.25 | Moc | blitzrage get in the conf |
| 05:20.29 | Moc | me and km is there |
| 05:21.39 | *** join/#asterisk UnixDawg (~UnixDawg@69-160-7-130.bflony.adelphia.net) |
| 05:21.45 | km- | jerjer: upgraded, try hittin me again? :) |
| 05:22.29 | km- | I disconnected |
| 05:22.39 | _Eagle_ | did i piss someone off? |
| 05:22.54 | km- | nah, I'm busy so I disconnected |
| 05:23.00 | Moc | ok |
| 05:23.10 | km- | since jerjer's got me all paranoid |
| 05:23.17 | Moc | lol |
| 05:23.18 | JerJer | lol |
| 05:23.33 | km- | jerjer: I got hacked before and I didn't like the feeling |
| 05:23.42 | JerJer | heheh |
| 05:23.50 | km- | jerjer: I thought privsep was supposed to stop all these hackeries |
| 05:25.37 | *** join/#asterisk Shido6 (~shido@d57-81-103.home.cgocable.net) |
| 05:27.54 | _Eagle_ | man, there's so much you can do with this stuff it's overwhelming |
| 05:27.57 | km- | jerjer: is this the pam exploit you used? |
| 05:28.05 | km- | jerjer: or did you use a different exploit |
| 05:28.37 | JerJer | a magician never tells |
| 05:28.49 | JerJer | your safe, for now |
| 05:28.56 | km- | oh come on, you're going to let a friend have an exploitable box? |
| 05:29.01 | JerJer | no |
| 05:29.03 | km- | that box isn't even worth anything, it's just my asterisk server :P |
| 05:29.17 | JerJer | i'm just fuckin with your mind |
| 05:29.21 | km- | hahaha |
| 05:29.29 | JerJer | or am i? |
| 05:29.33 | km- | BAH |
| 05:29.35 | JerJer | lol |
| 05:29.40 | km- | oh well, upgrading ssh good idea anyway |
| 05:29.45 | _Eagle_ | jer: be nice... you're gonna give him a stroke or something |
| 05:29.58 | km- | you have no idea how much it sucks |
| 05:30.00 | km- | to have a bunch of french kids |
| 05:30.03 | km- | or malaysian kids |
| 05:30.07 | km- | going rooting through your boxen |
| 05:30.24 | km- | and knowing that even though you've tracked them down as far as you can... |
| 05:30.25 | JerJer | turn off imcp |
| 05:30.28 | JerJer | icmp |
| 05:30.32 | km- | you'll never get them in jail! |
| 05:30.41 | km- | yeah |
| 05:30.50 | km- | that's a worthy idea |
| 05:31.09 | JerJer | don't reject, just drop |
| 05:31.22 | km- | $IPTABLES -t filter -A INPUT -s 0.0.0.0/0 -d 66.92.234.10/32 -p icmp -j DROP |
| 05:31.28 | JerJer | hell yeah |
| 05:31.35 | km- | can ya try pinging |
| 05:31.39 | km- | to confirm it works |
| 05:31.48 | Moc | let scanport instead .. |
| 05:31.59 | JerJer | put it in |
| 05:32.00 | Moc | it ping |
| 05:32.04 | JerJer | its replying still |
| 05:32.08 | km- | weird |
| 05:32.43 | km- | oh |
| 05:32.46 | km- | wrong fucking filter |
| 05:32.46 | _Eagle_ | brb |
| 05:33.19 | JerJer | gone |
| 05:33.19 | km- | try now? |
| 05:33.22 | km- | cool |
| 05:33.22 | km- | :) |
| 05:33.23 | JerJer | no pingy |
| 05:33.34 | km- | yeah, needed to put it in FORWARD filter |
| 05:34.04 | Moc | is PRI registred to certain equipement type ? Like If I get a T1 pci card, and unplug the T1 going to our VideoConference system and plug it in my Asterisk, will it work, or telco need to change something ? |
| 05:34.23 | JerJer | nope |
| 05:34.34 | JerJer | it should work |
| 05:34.34 | h3x | you just need the switch type set right |
| 05:34.46 | h3x | plug your vc system behind it on a te410p |
| 05:34.52 | h3x | set it to pass that stuff through |
| 05:34.58 | Lee3 | anyone out here can provide asterisk consultant service ? |
| 05:34.59 | JerJer | DACS |
| 05:35.09 | h3x | you cant dacs pri becuase of the d channel |
| 05:35.14 | JerJer | oh |
| 05:35.14 | Moc | sound nice, cost alot to have fun but sound nice .. |
| 05:35.25 | JerJer | yeah DACS is data, my bad |
| 05:35.31 | h3x | no |
| 05:35.37 | h3x | dacs would work if it was robbed bit signalling |
| 05:35.43 | JerJer | ahh ct1 |
| 05:35.54 | h3x | but why give up those channels permanently |
| 05:35.59 | h3x | dyanamiclly use em |
| 05:36.01 | JerJer | yeah |
| 05:36.08 | h3x | fl;jksdfjlkdsas |
| 05:36.11 | h3x | i cant spell for shit tonight |
| 05:36.24 | JerJer | me, fail engrish that's unpossible |
| 05:36.29 | Moc | We got 4 T1, 3 going to Meridian 1 PBX, 1 for Video Conference only.. |
| 05:36.47 | Moc | Well we dont have place in our Meridian 1 system for adding 1 more PRI |
| 05:36.59 | Moc | both CPU are full.. |
| 05:37.00 | h3x | ahso |
| 05:37.28 | h3x | so what are you trying to do with * in this picture exactly |
| 05:38.11 | Moc | just learning basicly... |
| 05:38.12 | *** join/#asterisk cman (~cman1@202.51.76.140) |
| 05:38.14 | Moc | fun |
| 05:38.22 | h3x | oh |
| 05:38.24 | Moc | and learning of course |
| 05:38.56 | Moc | heu.. ok 2 learning .. well I want to learn alot.. |
| 05:39.15 | h3x | i have another idea for you |
| 05:39.30 | h3x | i know this works with the avaya merlin stuff becuase the MLX ports for the phones are BRI ISDN |
| 05:39.42 | h3x | but is there some sort of BRI card for the meridian |
| 05:40.03 | h3x | like, that you attach CPE to |
| 05:40.24 | Moc | Dont think so, it all Digital line for Meridian 1 phone. And a few Analog cards also.. |
| 05:40.31 | Moc | I'll have to check further |
| 05:40.55 | h3x | thing is, those bri cards for PCs that work with CAPI are expensive |
| 05:41.13 | _Eagle_ | is there any built in functionality for call forwarding and do not disturb, or do you basically have to put/get/del variables in the database, then have an AGI script make all your calls for you? |
| 05:41.26 | h3x | eagle, sure |
| 05:41.28 | Moc | ha I saw ISDN card for 100$ or so.. Fritz or something ? |
| 05:41.43 | h3x | AVM! Fritz cards i thought cost more than that |
| 05:41.52 | h3x | maybe not |
| 05:42.20 | h3x | you could just order another PRI hehehehe |
| 05:42.33 | _Eagle_ | h3x: ? |
| 05:42.52 | Moc | 600 |
| 05:42.53 | h3x | if you hit *72 you get studder dialtone |
| 05:43.07 | h3x | and you call whatever you wanna forward just like class 5 service your telco has |
| 05:43.21 | _Eagle_ | thats built into asterisk? |
| 05:43.28 | _Eagle_ | not an extensions.conf hack? |
| 05:43.29 | h3x | yes |
| 05:43.37 | h3x | you may need to enable in zaptel.conf or something |
| 05:43.48 | h3x | it may not work with non-zaptel stuff |
| 05:44.20 | Moc | Ill wait till my boss ask me about what I can do. Like make the IT using IP Phone |
| 05:44.28 | Moc | with queue .. |
| 05:44.31 | _Eagle_ | ok |
| 05:44.32 | JerJer | hell order a DS-3 just to save work later |
| 05:44.38 | h3x | hahaha |
| 05:44.46 | h3x | _Eagle_: No |
| 05:44.48 | _Eagle_ | jer: only one? why not 2? need a backup |
| 05:44.52 | h3x | Its like call waiting and 3 way calling |
| 05:44.58 | h3x | And *8 call pickup |
| 05:45.09 | JerJer | _Eagle_: in fact we just ordered another one, just cuz i can |
| 05:45.11 | JerJer | :) |
| 05:45.22 | JerJer | guess how much my MRC is ? |
| 05:45.22 | _Eagle_ | jer: from john? |
| 05:45.26 | JerJer | :P |
| 05:45.26 | JerJer | no |
| 05:45.28 | JerJer | GX |
| 05:45.34 | Moc | oh *8 is pickup.. good to know |
| 05:45.38 | _Eagle_ | for the DS3? including loop or in colo? |
| 05:45.46 | h3x | heh, i got $420 DS3s from vegas to LAX |
| 05:45.47 | _Eagle_ | GX? |
| 05:45.51 | JerJer | $0.00 per month |
| 05:45.54 | h3x | long haul bab |
| 05:45.54 | h3x | y |
| 05:46.00 | Moc | 600$/month for T1 |
| 05:46.02 | Moc | CND |
| 05:46.11 | h3x | you're in canada? |
| 05:46.14 | _Eagle_ | you got a DS3 for free? |
| 05:46.14 | Moc | yes |
| 05:46.21 | JerJer | _Eagle_: no monthly recurring |
| 05:46.23 | h3x | why dont you use nufone to terminate long distance calls |
| 05:46.25 | h3x | or something |
| 05:46.30 | JerJer | muawahahahahahahahahaha |
| 05:46.31 | h3x | and plug asterisk into the meridian |
| 05:46.32 | Moc | I got nufone already |
| 05:46.35 | h3x | oh |
| 05:46.40 | _Eagle_ | you bastard |
| 05:46.44 | _Eagle_ | that sucks |
| 05:46.55 | _Eagle_ | i want a free DS3 :-) |
| 05:46.57 | Moc | well Like I said no PRI left in system.. |
| 05:47.08 | _Eagle_ | heck, lets change that |
| 05:47.12 | JerJer | yeah i gota buy a Edglink 500 and prolly caugh up a couple hundy for a install fee, but hell why not |
| 05:47.12 | _Eagle_ | i want 10 free DS3's |
| 05:47.20 | h3x | do you really need 3 T1s of local service? |
| 05:47.31 | JerJer | 500 ? 100 |
| 05:47.32 | Moc | yes |
| 05:47.38 | Moc | it a lawfirm... alot of calling |
| 05:48.15 | JerJer | moc: ya know u could setup some really slick billing / accounting things at that lawfirm |
| 05:48.23 | _Eagle_ | if i had 10 DS3's... lets see.. thats 280 PRI's... would need 70 servers and 70 T400P cards.... |
| 05:48.33 | _Eagle_ | but then i could do a hell of a lot of cool stuff :-) |
| 05:48.36 | Moc | and it a ratio of 1:8 |
| 05:48.39 | h3x | _ea:And... a pool of MAX TNTs would be a lot less expensive |
| 05:48.40 | JerJer | hell yeah |
| 05:48.47 | JerJer | um no |
| 05:48.54 | h3x | um yes |
| 05:49.02 | JerJer | TNT is a dumb gateway |
| 05:49.03 | h3x | think about how much the computers cost |
| 05:49.15 | JerJer | about 500 a piece |
| 05:49.19 | JerJer | at that quanity |
| 05:49.21 | Moc | JerJer: we use a CDR from the M1 system connected to a .. 128K Buffer box connected to a software that capture and put in a text file |
| 05:49.24 | h3x | yeah but you can proxy though asterisk |
| 05:49.27 | h3x | with no codec translation |
| 05:49.34 | km- | jerjer: when is nufone national going to start up? |
| 05:49.40 | Moc | it imported our accounting DB each night |
| 05:50.05 | JerJer | Moc: but you could set it up with per customer dialing codes and have each customers bills already figured out |
| 05:50.06 | Moc | 1:8 I mean 1 channel for 8 user |
| 05:50.20 | _Eagle_ | 280 x 23 = 6440 lines |
| 05:50.22 | JerJer | i know, i've done it for two lawfirms and a real estate office |
| 05:50.23 | Moc | we have that also, BUT it not verified |
| 05:50.30 | _Eagle_ | 6400 phone lines would be awesome |
| 05:50.47 | h3x | _Eagle_: But its dedicated long distnace. |
| 05:50.48 | Moc | I mean lawyers enter 12digit accounting code, but if code is not valid, call is still made.. |
| 05:50.50 | h3x | you have to pay for minutes. |
| 05:50.58 | JerJer | MOc: bleh |
| 05:51.03 | JerJer | not very friendly or secure |
| 05:51.04 | Moc | so accounting need to call lawyers and know to what accout it to charge.. |
| 05:51.26 | h3x | thats terrible |
| 05:51.28 | JerJer | i set these up with a four digit number |
| 05:51.40 | h3x | who the hell wants to enter a 12 digit number |
| 05:51.49 | h3x | may as well use a calling card that the client gives them! |
| 05:51.53 | Moc | h3x: It a law firm, alot ... ALOT of clients.. |
| 05:52.03 | Moc | and it the client/matter |
| 05:52.03 | JerJer | and that four digit number gets assigned to the customer for each 'case' (in the law firm version) |
| 05:52.06 | _Eagle_ | h3x: only on oubound calls... incoming calls are free :-) |
| 05:52.07 | h3x | So, integrate it with the computer |
| 05:52.09 | h3x | and have them look up the name |
| 05:52.34 | h3x | _Eagle_: I donno what hes got but im sure its probably only 1+ and toll free |
| 05:53.30 | Moc | JerJer: would be nice, but never going to happen.. that the problem being the biggest lawfirm in Canada |
| 05:53.40 | _Eagle_ | h3x: the PRI's i get include local phone numbers covering 90% of the population of Michigan |
| 05:53.43 | JerJer | play the politcs |
| 05:53.55 | JerJer | piss off a few ppl, step on others toes and just get the job done |
| 05:54.07 | h3x | _Eagle_: My point is he has free ds3 cross connects, but they probably arent on a class 5 switch so he dosent have local service. |
| 05:54.11 | km- | jerjer: bitch answer my question!........ please? :P |
| 05:54.11 | JerJer | then you'll be in like flynt with the CFO and other bean counters |
| 05:54.12 | Moc | Well the thing is it work rightnow ... that the thing, why change ... |
| 05:54.22 | Moc | We are moving to a new office in 2006, or 2005.. |
| 05:54.27 | JerJer | km- who what when where why? |
| 05:54.44 | km- | jerjer: I was asking when the national DID's would be available for real real |
| 05:54.46 | JerJer | moc: then roll out a whole new sytem for the new office(s) |
| 05:54.50 | _Eagle_ | h3x: i see what you're saying now... ok |
| 05:54.51 | km- | jerjer: so I could get my preorder in! |
| 05:54.51 | Moc | So Im not sure they gonna bring the M1 system from the office witch need a new Software Revision |
| 05:55.10 | h3x | global crossing does have a local enhanced service product but its pretty expensive |
| 05:55.11 | JerJer | whenever we decide to start offering them |
| 05:55.18 | Moc | JerJer: Exactly but they wont go for Asterisk ... They will pay the big price for an Cisco System |
| 05:55.23 | JerJer | bleh |
| 05:55.30 | h3x | cisco sucks ass |
| 05:55.40 | Moc | Well im sure that what will happen .. |
| 05:55.47 | km- | jerjer: boo! :) |
| 05:56.03 | km- | jerjer: I want to cancel POTS phone service entirely! :P |
| 05:56.13 | JerJer | we won't be doing 911 |
| 05:56.16 | Moc | Because Cisco is is backing up the service |
| 05:56.36 | Moc | 911 service is a big problem .. |
| 05:56.45 | _Eagle_ | jer: who are you getting the DID's from nationwide, and what states are you covering? |
| 05:57.07 | boo | he got them from netsol |
| 05:57.35 | km- | hehe |
| 05:57.37 | km- | verisign runs the world |
| 05:57.44 | JerJer | :) |
| 05:57.51 | JerJer | classified |
| 05:58.11 | _Eagle_ | km: i cancelled all my business POTS and centrex services... switched over to asterisk and sip... but i kept my residential pots lines |
| 05:58.17 | boo | what?!?!?! JerJer's brain is not open source? |
| 05:58.30 | JerJer | boo: hell no |
| 05:58.33 | _Eagle_ | jer: ok, well, how many companies do you have to deal with to cover the whole country? |
| 05:58.34 | boo | lol |
| 05:58.44 | h3x | Moc: Whats the problem with E911 and asterisk |
| 05:58.59 | Moc | it not an * problem, it a law and service problem .. |
| 05:59.01 | JerJer | _Eagle_: we've been wheeling and dealing in backrooms and IAX2 conf calls ;) |
| 05:59.09 | h3x | ? |
| 05:59.11 | Moc | Like if I only want NuFone service, well I dont have 911 |
| 05:59.34 | Moc | I HAVE to have local phone line |
| 05:59.37 | h3x | You still need local lines. |
| 05:59.38 | h3x | anyway |
| 05:59.39 | h3x | PRIs |
| 05:59.42 | h3x | so what |
| 05:59.50 | h3x | $1500 for a quad span card is cheap |
| 05:59.55 | JerJer | and if u send 911 to new fone you'll get a nice message saing 911 doesn't work here :) |
| 05:59.58 | Moc | I mean for personal at home |
| 06:00.08 | JerJer | new fone ?! |
| 06:00.09 | JerJer | whoa |
| 06:00.11 | JerJer | nufone |
| 06:00.16 | JerJer | talk about fuckup |
| 06:00.19 | h3x | anycase, you can punch in the PSAP number for your area |
| 06:00.23 | h3x | and reroute 911 in your dialplan |
| 06:00.28 | Moc | lol hehe |
| 06:00.33 | _Eagle_ | heh |
| 06:00.35 | Moc | PSAP ? |
| 06:00.40 | JerJer | Public service answering point |
| 06:00.41 | h3x | just like vonage does |
| 06:00.43 | Moc | is there a directory ? |
| 06:00.46 | h3x | sure |
| 06:00.51 | h3x | its maintained by your local government |
| 06:00.58 | JerJer | for a small nominal fee |
| 06:01.02 | _Eagle_ | you can do that? |
| 06:01.02 | Moc | ha my gov suck .. |
| 06:01.14 | h3x | Oh yeah you are in canada. |
| 06:01.21 | JerJer | blame canada! |
| 06:01.27 | Moc | not the canada problem, it the liberal proble. |
| 06:01.28 | h3x | yes! blame canada! |
| 06:01.30 | Moc | lol JerJer ;) |
| 06:01.42 | Moc | it like the US with Bush .. |
| 06:01.45 | JerJer | *grumbles something about mad cow* |
| 06:01.48 | _Eagle_ | you can forware 911 calls to a 10 digit local number at the PSAP? how do they get the E911 info for location? |
| 06:02.06 | h3x | _Eagle_: They can't. |
| 06:02.09 | JerJer | hope the ANI is correct? |
| 06:02.10 | h3x | but its better than nothing |
| 06:02.28 | h3x | yeah you can just send whatever ani |
| 06:02.33 | Moc | I can see the ambulance going from Montreal to JerJer house... |
| 06:02.34 | _Eagle_ | where do you find the loca PSAP phone number? |
| 06:02.40 | h3x | but real E911 has to do with sending the location within the building |
| 06:02.49 | JerJer | PUC |
| 06:02.52 | Moc | ish they exist ? |
| 06:02.59 | Moc | Im sure we dont have that at the office .. |
| 06:03.15 | h3x | Chances are, you aren't currently implementing E911 correctly |
| 06:03.18 | h3x | so it dosent fuckin matter |
| 06:03.26 | JerJer | i think E-911 was more a pipe dream for the cell carriers |
| 06:03.28 | Moc | hehe M1 system dont support that Im sure .. |
| 06:03.32 | JerJer | more of a |
| 06:03.39 | h3x | and you wont ever get around to setting it up with the cisco call womanager |
| 06:03.52 | Moc | well maybe Software Release 2000009945 will but our 23 wont |
| 06:04.10 | JerJer | womanager |
| 06:04.20 | h3x | heh |
| 06:04.20 | Shido6 | i caught that , too .. heh |
| 06:04.30 | h3x | it bitches while it helps you with your call. |
| 06:04.44 | JerJer | ROTFLAMO |
| 06:04.45 | Moc | Im frusted by injustist that ppl have PRI and others dont ... Im going to get a brownies and think about that !! |
| 06:05.00 | JerJer | hmm brownies |
| 06:05.06 | JerJer | mmmmm special brownies |
| 06:05.12 | h3x | injustice.. Don't you know this word working at a law office? |
| 06:05.13 | Moc | home made |
| 06:05.32 | _Eagle_ | well maybe its about time the government start PRI welfare... tax those that have PRI, and then use that money to give free PRI's to those that dont have them ? |
| 06:05.58 | boo | lol h3x |
| 06:06.13 | boo | /me thinks his native language is not english |
| 06:06.15 | JerJer | i renew my previous argument: we would then install 5000 APs around the city and build a mesh network |
| 06:06.25 | h3x | _Eagle_: I think its called the universal service fund |
| 06:06.33 | JerJer | fuck em, we'll do it ourselves |
| 06:07.08 | Moc | sound nice.. |
| 06:07.27 | _Eagle_ | so, who thinks this virtual pbx stuff is a good idea? |
| 06:07.49 | JerJer | hope u gots a reliable local loop |
| 06:07.59 | JerJer | throw an asterisk box out the the customer prem |
| 06:08.19 | JerJer | then they can at least call office to office and out the local pots line WHEN their internet craps out |
| 06:08.53 | JerJer | selll it as a managed solution |
| 06:09.00 | JerJer | complete with an intergrated access device |
| 06:09.01 | Moc | JerJer: is NuFone charged to the second ? |
| 06:09.12 | JerJer | (read: asterisk box) |
| 06:09.16 | JerJer | 6 second us |
| 06:09.22 | JerJer | 1 minute to mexco |
| 06:09.27 | Moc | canada ? |
| 06:09.30 | JerJer | 15 seconds rest of da werld |
| 06:09.32 | denon | 30 minutes to abudhabi |
| 06:10.04 | _Eagle_ | interesting |
| 06:10.18 | Moc | guess US/CND is same thing |
| 06:10.26 | JerJer | someone made a 15 minute call to an iriduim fone the other while...kinda crazy, but hell it was a pre-paid account |
| 06:10.41 | km- | hehe |
| 06:10.42 | JerJer | Moc: no 6 second to US48 |
| 06:10.48 | _Eagle_ | then ssh into their asterisk server to maintain it for them? like add extensions, voicemail boxes, etc? |
| 06:10.49 | km- | blah time to sleep |
| 06:10.50 | km- | later guys |
| 06:10.53 | Moc | 15/sec to canada then ? |
| 06:10.56 | JerJer | 15 seconds everyweher else, even alaska/hawiaii |
| 06:11.02 | Moc | ok |
| 06:11.04 | JerJer | _Eagle_: yep |
| 06:11.05 | Moc | that still good .. |
| 06:11.20 | JerJer | and/or build a GUI for them to to trivial things |
| 06:11.22 | JerJer | if necessayr |
| 06:11.56 | _Eagle_ | seems a bit dangerous though |
| 06:12.03 | JerJer | so not only can you charge monthly for the service |
| 06:12.15 | JerJer | you can get a support contract out of them for a few more bucks a month |
| 06:12.23 | _Eagle_ | every time a security hole comes up, you have to upgrade every customer's box, etc. |
| 06:12.35 | JerJer | thus raising your average ticket price per customer |
| 06:12.50 | JerJer | use one of the many updater progggys |
| 06:12.54 | Moc | Our PBX contract each year is like 20000$ |
| 06:12.59 | cman | hello |
| 06:13.01 | JerJer | and lock the box down HARD |
| 06:13.13 | Moc | for support |
| 06:13.14 | JerJer | ie only let ssh work from known IPs |
| 06:13.30 | _Eagle_ | hmmm |
| 06:13.35 | JerJer | all of ours are on a private network, so nobody is getting in |
| 06:13.41 | JerJer | even if i didn't have root pwds |
| 06:13.57 | JerJer | set |
| 06:14.17 | _Eagle_ | what can you charge for making changes to their config though? |
| 06:14.19 | cman | anyone has used astguiclient?? |
| 06:14.30 | cman | what does this mean? |
| 06:14.30 | cman | ### Create the following tables in your "asterisk" MySQL database |
| 06:14.31 | cman | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.31 | cman | ### remember to prepopulate the conferencing table with meetme conferences defined |
| 06:14.31 | cman | ### remember to prepopulate the phones table with proper values |
| 06:14.31 | cman | ### remember to prepopulate the server_updater table with the asterisk servers' IP addresses |
| 06:14.38 | JerJer | _Eagle_: that's what u gota decide |
| 06:14.50 | JerJer | or have a few different options |
| 06:14.59 | JerJer | $20 per call |
| 06:15.12 | JerJer | up to some montly fee for 4 hour response time |
| 06:16.06 | JerJer | i've got a legal department that deals with all that mess |
| 06:16.07 | Moc | us it like 130$/hours for each incident.. |
| 06:16.29 | Moc | and it 20000$ to get our phone guaranted + pbx support plan |
| 06:16.37 | JerJer | bleh |
| 06:16.43 | _Eagle_ | would you have to sell them a T1 too? or could you get by using their existing DSL? |
| 06:16.52 | JerJer | depends on your model |
| 06:17.02 | Moc | JerJer: What I mean is you can charge more hehe |
| 06:17.23 | _Eagle_ | well |
| 06:17.27 | JerJer | we don't need to get phat rich here |
| 06:17.31 | Moc | I should start a buisness of selling HW with * and Digium equipement and selling support |
| 06:17.32 | JerJer | make money in bulk |
| 06:17.32 | _Eagle_ | you know what i pay for a T1 local loop |
| 06:18.11 | JerJer | u could work out a deal with john to run it back to his prem and break em out to your own gear |
| 06:18.13 | Moc | JerJer: Good, so you see it the good way, you are in buisness to make the client money/save money |
| 06:18.13 | _Eagle_ | and you probably know what i pay for bandwidth |
| 06:18.20 | JerJer | ;) |
| 06:18.59 | JerJer | i've prolly fondeled your gear |
| 06:18.59 | Moc | Bell Canada it the reverse, we dont care much, but we charge alot |
| 06:18.59 | JerJer | :) |
| 06:18.59 | JerJer | or was that a girl |
| 06:19.24 | JerJer | been too long, can't remember |
| 06:19.37 | _Eagle_ | well that runs into a different thing entirely |
| 06:19.46 | Moc | like for 20000$ each year, rebooting the pbx isn't considering as an emergency, so it HAVE to be done during the day.. |
| 06:19.54 | JerJer | bastards |
| 06:20.05 | Moc | if we want it after 18h it cost us like 400$ |
| 06:20.06 | _Eagle_ | if i start running a T1 out there, it's better to do a mixed voice/data T1 and just run TDM ports into their asterisk box |
| 06:20.07 | JerJer | bend over, its going in without lube |
| 06:20.12 | _Eagle_ | why even bother using voip at all? |
| 06:20.19 | JerJer | :) |
| 06:20.36 | h3x | Moc: Actually theres some people doing the support/install stuff down here such as Atacomm |
| 06:20.54 | h3x | Moc: They installed them for schools etc. with support contracts and got 911 working and all that jazz |
| 06:21.05 | h3x | and PA integration blah blah |
| 06:21.07 | Moc | Well like I said, the office I work will only go for big name ... like Bell Canada, Nortel, Cisco .. |
| 06:21.14 | rpb | Moc: for the $20K/yr, what was teh install price of the pbx in the first place? |
| 06:21.28 | Moc | 20k/year is just the support |
| 06:21.30 | rpb | Wondering what kind of percentage they do to arrive at that number. |
| 06:21.34 | h3x | I didnt know anybody in canada used cisco stuff. You guys are so nortel biased because they are up there.. |
| 06:21.43 | Moc | Upgrading our CPU to new version would cost us 35k$ |
| 06:22.04 | rpb | So that is probably a six or seven figure pbx then. |
| 06:22.24 | Moc | h3x: Nortel being doing telco stuff for so much time |
| 06:22.43 | h3x | I couldn't find a damned place in Montreal to buy a cisco catalyst 2924XL when i was up there a couple years ago |
| 06:22.54 | _Eagle_ | jer: seriously, ive heard of people working out deals with john where they can do a mixed voice/data t1, including bandwidth, billed by john, for about the same price as i would pay just for the loop by itself |
| 06:23.11 | Moc | I know well the problem cisco dont care about canada, so they lose alot of sales.. |
| 06:23.12 | JerJer | possibly |
| 06:23.14 | h3x | there was no cisco gear at all in Teleglobe |
| 06:23.23 | cman | use Net::MySQL; |
| 06:23.24 | cman | ? |
| 06:23.36 | JerJer | _Eagle_: we do this in chicago, so its not with john |
| 06:23.40 | Moc | All our switch and master switch is Nortel here at the office (Baystack) |
| 06:23.45 | h3x | yuckj |
| 06:23.47 | h3x | osdfkjfsljkhdfsjhfdsajlfhsdajkflh |
| 06:23.53 | Moc | it work, no downtime |
| 06:24.03 | h3x | Moc: Why dont you open a cisco dealer up there |
| 06:24.10 | Moc | pbx no downtime (Quebec office with Option 11 got a few downtime but mtl is fine_ |
| 06:24.17 | *** join/#asterisk acm (~acm@c-24-8-74-193.client.comcast.net) |
| 06:24.17 | Moc | cisco cost too much.. |
| 06:24.21 | JerJer | _Eagle_: we have DS-3s to ameriwreck and they overlay the PtP T-1s on a specific channel on the DS-3 |
| 06:24.37 | h3x | They don't when you have control over setting the prices |
| 06:24.37 | h3x | heh |
| 06:24.43 | JerJer | then we pull it of and deal with it accordingly |
| 06:24.46 | JerJer | on our end |
| 06:24.48 | _Eagle_ | considering i know pretty much exactly what those T1 loops cost them, maybe i could work out a volume discount plan and get the price down... but i'd have to be pretty confident that i could sell 100+ T1's in a year or so |
| 06:24.58 | JerJer | yeah that's the trouble |
| 06:25.10 | Moc | why dont they sell Linksys catalyst stuff them ;) |
| 06:25.26 | denon | we work with a company that burns up 100 T1 loops in a matter of weeks .. freakin amazing |
| 06:25.31 | h3x | _Eagle_: Well you need to be a licensed clec unless you are using voip |
| 06:25.31 | cman | ok inned help |
| 06:25.48 | JerJer | then like Moc is talkin about, us lil guys have a hard sale a head of us, next to crisco and 3cum |
| 06:25.49 | Moc | ok really brownies time ... |
| 06:25.56 | cman | how to check Net::MySQL and Net:: Telnet modules installed in perl>> |
| 06:26.06 | JerJer | Net::MySQL !? |
| 06:26.15 | JerJer | WTF is that? |
| 06:26.24 | denon | haha |
| 06:26.28 | Moc | JerJerL Yep :( you need to get big to get to the big guys .. |
| 06:26.32 | h3x | cman: This isn't #perl, nor is it efnet |
| 06:27.03 | JerJer | cman: what's wrong wif the perl DBI ? |
| 06:27.03 | ReG-Hexer | Happy New Year all =) |
| 06:27.13 | cman | ok |
| 06:27.14 | Moc | we got our T1 from Bell, Longdistance with AT&T(AllStream), Nortel switch and PBX) |
| 06:27.17 | JerJer | moc: yeah wicked catch 22 |
| 06:27.22 | cman | i just installed Perl/Tk |
| 06:27.28 | ReG-Hexer | another 9 hours 30 mins it's gona be 2004 here =) |
| 06:27.38 | cman | where can i find Net::MySQL? or check if its already installed |
| 06:27.39 | Moc | PC and server are all HP |
| 06:27.43 | h3x | er |
| 06:27.50 | JerJer | cman: the question is why? |
| 06:27.55 | *** join/#asterisk _Eagle_ (nick@wasteland.net) |
| 06:28.01 | _Eagle_ | damn |
| 06:28.01 | JerJer | wb |
| 06:28.03 | _Eagle_ | sorry |
| 06:28.05 | Moc | I even setup free VPN box, and they went to buy Nortel Contivity VPN box for 13k$ each !! |
| 06:28.12 | cman | i want to run this astguiclient and it says it needs Net::MySQL |
| 06:28.17 | Moc | they just dont care |
| 06:28.18 | _Eagle_ | i've been reduced to using dialup for the past couple of months |
| 06:28.20 | cman | don't know how to check that |
| 06:28.21 | *** join/#asterisk T` (tome@202.153.45.124) |
| 06:28.24 | JerJer | what a idiot |
| 06:28.25 | _Eagle_ | and my dialup account disconnected me |
| 06:28.32 | JerJer | i'm glad i didn't bother installing that stupid gui |
| 06:28.48 | Moc | Montreal IT budget is 3million $ |
| 06:28.48 | cman | haha |
| 06:28.51 | cman | does any one know |
| 06:29.19 | _Eagle_ | jer: last thing i saw you say was something about how Moc said it was a hard sell to convince people to use asterisk instead of cisco/nortel, etc... |
| 06:29.26 | _Eagle_ | what did i miss you say after that? |
| 06:29.37 | JerJer | [01:26] <JerJer> moc: yeah wicked catch 22 |
| 06:30.07 | _Eagle_ | ( i really gotta start using screen before running irc when i'm on dialup ) |
| 06:30.27 | JerJer | light up a PtP |
| 06:30.52 | _Eagle_ | $750 install, and i plan to finally be out of here by the end of january |
| 06:31.06 | _Eagle_ | the T1 is installed at the new house already, since end of summer |
| 06:31.10 | JerJer | bleh..if u whine enough they'll wave the install |
| 06:31.16 | JerJer | waive ? |
| 06:31.28 | denon | telcos waive |
| 06:31.31 | _Eagle_ | but my T1 at this house was disconnected november 7 |
| 06:31.42 | JerJer | non-payment :) |
| 06:31.46 | _Eagle_ | we thought we would have moved by now, but everything is taking much longer than we expected |
| 06:31.49 | JerJer | ahh |
| 06:31.58 | denon | eagle's on the short list |
| 06:32.01 | cman | what does Asterisk Manager Interface username mean?? |
| 06:32.07 | _Eagle_ | no, end of 24 months contract, and if i wanted more time, i had to agree to another 24 months |
| 06:32.14 | JerJer | bastards |
| 06:32.22 | *** join/#asterisk Kilroy (Kilroy@69.57.191.130) |
| 06:33.00 | JerJer | just get a Point to point from john |
| 06:33.14 | JerJer | and have em run it to your cabinet there : ) |
| 06:33.21 | JerJer | then u deal with the b/w on your own |
| 06:33.22 | _Eagle_ | so my choices were... commit to a 24 months contract with AT&T for a house i was moving out of soon with a termination agreement that made me pay 50% or more in fees, or a $750 install fee, or go to dialup for a couple months |
| 06:33.32 | JerJer | yeah :( |
| 06:33.37 | JerJer | shotgun |
| 06:33.42 | JerJer | get like 4 POTS lines |
| 06:33.52 | _Eagle_ | dialup aint so bad |
| 06:33.58 | _Eagle_ | i can put up with it for a couple months |
| 06:34.01 | JerJer | john will let you bond them all together |
| 06:34.11 | _Eagle_ | and by the end of january i should be back to T1 |
| 06:34.16 | cman | JerJer is that web interface u have made? |
| 06:34.27 | _Eagle_ | anyway |
| 06:34.27 | Moc | it REALLY BROWNIES time .. brb.. |
| 06:34.35 | JerJer | i've made more web shit than i want to admit to |
| 06:34.48 | JerJer | so ur gonna have to be more explicit |
| 06:34.59 | _Eagle_ | if you could get the T1 cheap enough, you could probably convince a lot of small businesses to switch |
| 06:35.04 | cman | asterisk GUI imena |
| 06:35.07 | T` | JerJer, is the web manager for * out ? |
| 06:35.10 | JerJer | moc; hope you didnt forget the speacial ingreadant |
| 06:35.24 | denon | special ingredient? |
| 06:35.31 | JerJer | _Eagle_: yeah that's what we be doing in Chicago |
| 06:35.33 | denon | JerJer: good thing you code better than you talk :) |
| 06:35.33 | _Eagle_ | but its not just the loop cost, but bandwidth, voice services, and then convincing them to leave SBC to go to a one-man operation |
| 06:35.52 | JerJer | don't let them know its a one man band |
| 06:36.19 | JerJer | hire up acouple unemployeed local geeks to man phones, email and what not |
| 06:36.31 | JerJer | and pay em in LD and common stock |
| 06:36.35 | _Eagle_ | then i need offices |
| 06:36.38 | rozo | common stock |
| 06:36.39 | rozo | hahaha |
| 06:36.43 | JerJer | bleh no you dont |
| 06:36.48 | JerJer | nufone has shit for offices |
| 06:36.57 | rozo | telecommute |
| 06:37.02 | JerJer | right on |
| 06:37.07 | rpb | exactly, that is what * is all about |
| 06:37.08 | rozo | aka virtual offices |
| 06:37.13 | JerJer | hell i'm 5 hours away from chicago |
| 06:37.14 | T` | heh |
| 06:37.28 | JerJer | but da customers don't know that |
| 06:37.43 | Moc | Damn will I ever get them.. |
| 06:37.46 | JerJer | but they dial a chicago number to contact me :) |
| 06:37.46 | blitzrage | JerJer: do you ever sleep? :) |
| 06:37.51 | JerJer | sleep? |
| 06:37.55 | _Eagle_ | cant pay an employee with LD... gotta pay them money... minimum wage |
| 06:38.07 | JerJer | then they aren't employees |
| 06:38.14 | blitzrage | what's a sleep? :) |
| 06:38.14 | T` | _Eagle_, hire some college students |
| 06:38.15 | rozo | blitz; there's two people who are JerJer. That's why Jer repeats |
| 06:38.21 | blitzrage | haha |
| 06:38.28 | blitzrage | hire me |
| 06:38.33 | blitzrage | << college student :) |
| 06:38.47 | T` | blitzrage, ur willing to work for min. wage ? |
| 06:38.50 | T` | ;) |
| 06:38.52 | blitzrage | fuck no :) |
| 06:38.55 | JerJer | ask shido how much i've paid him :) |
| 06:39.11 | blitzrage | minimum wage is for high school students, or college students who don't know anything :) |
| 06:39.11 | JerJer | here have a broken X100P |
| 06:39.13 | T` | paid for ? |
| 06:39.24 | JerJer | or just tease him with IAXy's |
| 06:39.30 | blitzrage | hehe |
| 06:39.44 | denon | JerJer: everyone's gettin teased with IAXys |
| 06:39.49 | blitzrage | I want an iaxy :) |
| 06:39.51 | JerJer | are they? |
| 06:39.59 | denon | vaporware till proven concrete |
| 06:40.02 | blitzrage | JerJer: damn you! |
| 06:40.28 | blitzrage | some people aren't being "teased" so much... |
| 06:40.28 | JerJer | oh they certianly ain't vapor |
| 06:40.56 | denon | it aint there .. |
| 06:40.59 | denon | its vapor :) |
| 06:41.02 | blitzrage | ha! |
| 06:41.08 | _Eagle_ | not a heck of a lot of businesses around here that are willing to pay $500+/month for a T1 for internet access |
| 06:41.24 | JerJer | yeah quite possilby |
| 06:41.28 | denon | Eagle: convince someone they wanna be an iso |
| 06:41.30 | denon | isp |
| 06:41.35 | blitzrage | welp.. I guess I better go and get some sleep... got a big day of drinking ahead of me tomorrow |
| 06:41.39 | denon | toss in a mail server, modem pool etc |
| 06:41.46 | JerJer | mmmm beeeeer |
| 06:42.00 | T` | new years ! |
| 06:42.06 | rpb | But the beauty of a T1 is that it isn';t just internet, but telephone channels as well all on one line. |
| 06:42.08 | blitzrage | oh.. tomorrow is new years ? |
| 06:42.14 | T` | uh.. isnt it ? |
| 06:42.26 | cman | please anyone how to check if these are installed?? |
| 06:42.27 | cman | # Both - Net::MySQL, Net::Telnet and Time::HiRes perl modules loaded |
| 06:42.29 | blitzrage | oh.. I guess it is.. I was just going to get filthy drunk tomorrow... |
| 06:42.31 | _Eagle_ | rpb: but not many businesses have enough lines to justify that cost |
| 06:42.56 | _Eagle_ | i think most small businesses around here have 4 lines or less |
| 06:43.15 | T` | _Eagle_, u dont need to give all the lines to a single business though |
| 06:43.28 | JerJer | _Eagle_: u can still string em a PtP T-1 cheap |
| 06:43.39 | JerJer | then u can oversub your b/w like mad |
| 06:43.42 | JerJer | just mange it properly |
| 06:44.03 | rpb | yeah, what jerjer said |
| 06:44.25 | _Eagle_ | well, its a hard sell... especially when they will need to keep a POTS line for 911 |
| 06:44.33 | *** part/#asterisk Shido6 (~shido@d57-81-103.home.cgocable.net) |
| 06:44.39 | JerJer | if you do it right you shoudl be able to get one leg of your loop for $131 a month |
| 06:44.46 | denon | who needs a pots for 911, they all have cells |
| 06:44.56 | JerJer | _Eagle_: can still deal with 911 |
| 06:45.06 | JerJer | your gonna provide them with FXS on that PTP T-1 |
| 06:45.23 | JerJer | just make damn sure the right ANI pops out when u push out 911 |
| 06:45.38 | JerJer | john ~is~ connected to the PSAPs |
| 06:45.48 | denon | haha .. so every week the cops show up to eagle's house |
| 06:46.03 | denon | "it wasnt me .. it was a customer .. lemme get the calls logs .. " |
| 06:46.11 | T` | JerJer, but isnt there some restrictions on how to route 911 calls ? |
| 06:46.18 | _Eagle_ | jer: you mean john can add the customer's number and address to the database for me? |
| 06:46.20 | JerJer | do like a forced lookup based on trunk or username |
| 06:46.47 | JerJer | _Eagle_: yep, its just not something he likes to do using VoIP |
| 06:46.59 | JerJer | but like u said there won't be any voip in that play |
| 06:47.18 | _Eagle_ | but then isnt that illegal since i'm not a CLEC? |
| 06:47.23 | JerJer | john is |
| 06:47.28 | JerJer | :) |
| 06:47.38 | _Eagle_ | but then HE would have tobe selling it, not me |
| 06:47.42 | JerJer | you would be inside his facilites doing all of this |
| 06:47.43 | JerJer | nope |
| 06:47.57 | jrollyson | only the final termination to the PSTN has to be properly licensed IIRC |
| 06:48.59 | _Eagle_ | there's just too many problems with this |
| 06:48.59 | jrollyson | today was fun at work. |
| 06:49.08 | jrollyson | I was there from about 10am to midnight. |
| 06:49.11 | JerJer | and john wants ppl to do things like this.. takes the CRM off of his back |
| 06:49.19 | JerJer | CRM and support |
| 06:49.33 | JerJer | there are costs invovled, sure |
| 06:49.48 | _Eagle_ | i have to pay per minute on my PRI's for local calls |
| 06:49.56 | rpb | Every problem is just a solution waiting to get out. |
| 06:49.58 | JerJer | which seems to be most ppls problem |
| 06:50.29 | _Eagle_ | i think id rather find an easier service to start with |
| 06:50.41 | _Eagle_ | i'm not ready for something with this many problems to solve |
| 06:50.42 | rpb | Selling papers on the street corner is pretty easy. |
| 06:50.43 | JerJer | but business calls are on the order of 3 minutes avg |
| 06:51.05 | JerJer | unelss your dealing with telewhores |
| 06:51.23 | JerJer | yeah it is ceritnaly not for the lazy |
| 06:51.33 | _Eagle_ | juat forget it, i'm gonna try to find something else to do |
| 06:51.34 | JerJer | or uniniatated |
| 06:51.44 | _Eagle_ | like conferencing or a chat line or IVR services |
| 06:52.09 | _Eagle_ | doing dialtone just has too many problems to solve... i dont want the headaches |
| 06:52.12 | T` | _Eagle_, where area are u located ? |
| 06:52.15 | JerJer | gota have a solid model, whatever you do |
| 06:52.25 | _Eagle_ | michigan |
| 06:52.28 | T` | ah ok |
| 06:52.34 | T` | hows the T1 costs out there |
| 06:52.42 | JerJer | about 3hours south of me |
| 06:52.49 | T` | JerJer, ur in ? |
| 06:52.56 | JerJer | where i live |
| 06:52.58 | _Eagle_ | for what? local loops? PRI's? internet bandwidth? what? |
| 06:52.59 | T` | really ? |
| 06:53.06 | JerJer | small word |
| 06:53.09 | JerJer | l |
| 06:54.05 | _Eagle_ | the problem with being in the detroit area is that pretty much anything you can think of is already being done by 50 companies\ |
| 06:54.06 | T` | _Eagle_, PRIs |
| 06:54.21 | _Eagle_ | and some of them are much cheaper than you can possibly compete with and still make money |
| 06:54.23 | T` | _Eagle_, whats how it is with any city i think |
| 06:54.30 | JerJer | yeah you have to either have a hell of sales team |
| 06:54.34 | T` | s/whats/thats |
| 06:54.37 | _Eagle_ | i can get cheap incoming PRI's, statewide local numbers |
| 06:54.41 | JerJer | or a really unique idea |
| 06:55.02 | T` | i am looking into some call center business |
| 06:55.09 | JerJer | cept for the damn UP :( |
| 06:55.15 | T` | thats kinda picking up in asian countries now |
| 06:55.34 | T` | eagle, u may wanna look up smoething like that |
| 06:55.48 | *** join/#asterisk hermie (~hermie@dialup-67.72.212.181.Dial1.Detroit1.Level3.net) |
| 06:56.01 | _Eagle_ | i like the idea of running a call center |
| 06:56.02 | T` | u need good networking though.. so u can bag some deals |
| 06:56.12 | _Eagle_ | but i dont have a purpose to have one |
| 06:56.13 | T` | eagle, u dont run it in the US |
| 06:56.27 | T` | i am currently touring asia about that.. went to singapore and india |
| 06:56.39 | T` | india seems to be a good location.. cheap and people seem to know what they are doing |
| 06:56.54 | _Eagle_ | oo yuck... i always hate that... call for support and some indian guy answers who can barely speak english |
| 06:57.16 | T` | haha .. interesting. u really had some call routed out of US ? |
| 06:57.17 | JerJer | would you like a cherry squishie to go with that? |
| 06:57.35 | T` | i didnt really have any cust support i called do that.. |
| 06:57.38 | _Eagle_ | yeah. all the time |
| 06:57.46 | T` | lol.. that sucks |
| 06:57.53 | _Eagle_ | hell.. i think Dell does all their support from india now |
| 06:57.54 | T` | but that business is what many companies are adopting |
| 06:58.05 | T` | i c.. i dont use dell's :P |
| 06:58.26 | jrollyson | US based callcenters cost more to operate, but if you have the right staff, productivity should be higher |
| 06:58.33 | T` | yesterday i went to visit a site which will be HSBC's main call center for europe |
| 06:58.34 | JerJer | I think Dell re-throught that plan |
| 06:58.37 | jrollyson | and customer satisfaction should be higher. |
| 06:58.44 | T` | i think its a 5000 seater |
| 06:59.00 | _Eagle_ | i just want to find a nice small quiet business model, something profitable, than i can run in my local area, and i dont need to be some nationwide or international conglomerate |
| 06:59.03 | jrollyson | 5000 seat callcenter? damn |
| 06:59.09 | _Eagle_ | i really dont like to travel anyway |
| 06:59.22 | JerJer | sex chat lines |
| 06:59.24 | cman | is ther anything called asterisk manager interface username |
| 06:59.30 | T` | jrollyson, yea.. its quite huge |
| 06:59.35 | jrollyson | I worked a 300 seat callcenter once, thats too damn big ;) |
| 06:59.42 | T` | JerJer, lol |
| 06:59.50 | T` | _Eagle_, well.. sell * boxes |
| 07:00.08 | _Eagle_ | jer: believe me, i considered that for a few minutes... |
| 07:00.24 | _Eagle_ | then i decided thats not what i want to be known for in the community |
| 07:00.25 | jrollyson | actually, I think its more effective to have a number of smaller centers if you can have trunking etc right. |
| 07:00.27 | JerJer | telnet localhost 5038 |
| 07:00.27 | JerJer | Trying 127.0.0.1... |
| 07:00.27 | JerJer | Connected to localhost. |
| 07:00.27 | JerJer | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 07:00.27 | JerJer | Asterisk Call Manager/1.0 |
| 07:00.38 | jrollyson | and appropriate load balencing. |
| 07:00.48 | T` | jrollyson, number of centers for what ? |
| 07:01.09 | jrollyson | a large customer service/support operation. |
| 07:01.11 | _Eagle_ | T: selling T1's with managed asterisk servers would be a lot easier than just selling an asterisk box to someone |
| 07:01.11 | T` | i kinda have a bad feeling for start up businesses in public sector |
| 07:01.17 | JerJer | action: login |
| 07:01.17 | JerJer | username: phatman |
| 07:01.17 | JerJer | secret: letmein |
| 07:01.27 | _Eagle_ | very very very small market, and they'd have to have linux geeks on staff to admin it |
| 07:01.37 | T` | _Eagle_, heh.. true |
| 07:01.41 | JerJer | work from home |
| 07:01.48 | JerJer | geeks get paid per call |
| 07:01.58 | T` | i think that didnt work well enough |
| 07:01.59 | jrollyson | asterisk seems to be high maintainance |
| 07:02.09 | rpb | Nah, just to set up. |
| 07:02.13 | jrollyson | at least compared to our old key system. |
| 07:02.15 | JerJer | jrollyson: depends |
| 07:02.20 | Moc | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:02.20 | Moc | Urgent handler |
| 07:02.20 | Moc | Yuck! Error in buffer handling...: Success |
| 07:02.20 | Moc | Asterisk cleanly ending (0). |
| 07:02.20 | Moc | Urgent handler |
| 07:02.28 | T` | jrollyson, well.. depends on what features u need i guess.. at the rate we have new revisions coming in |
| 07:02.48 | T` | JerJer, u run 100% * for ur business right ? |
| 07:02.52 | JerJer | yep |
| 07:03.00 | T` | ok |
| 07:03.01 | _Eagle_ | i figure unless i can negotiate free local calls with my CLEC, i'm probably going to have to stick with something that uses incoming calls only... like chat/conference, call centers, or IVR apps |
| 07:03.11 | jrollyson | JerJer: we just went from running a key system to an asterisk system with queueing. |
| 07:03.17 | T` | _Eagle_, what do u do presently ? |
| 07:03.18 | JerJer | chan_noqueue |
| 07:03.32 | jrollyson | thats been a HUGE adjustment for our staff ;) |
| 07:03.35 | JerJer | and agent_deadlock |
| 07:03.41 | Moc | can I see in the console when someone connect using IAX2 ? |
| 07:03.42 | JerJer | i bet |
| 07:03.53 | JerJer | moc: can you? |
| 07:04.00 | Moc | nope |
| 07:04.05 | jrollyson | JerJer: made the office VERY quiet. |
| 07:04.11 | JerJer | lol |
| 07:04.12 | _Eagle_ | T: i run a very small ISP that is going down the toilet more and more each month |
| 07:04.18 | T` | is there a config manager for * now ? i havent been active on this chan lately.. been like 6 months i think |
| 07:04.28 | T` | _Eagle_, oh i c |
| 07:04.31 | JerJer | T`: sure |
| 07:04.52 | JerJer | vi /etc/asterisk/extensons.conf |
| 07:04.55 | T` | _Eagle_, dont u think ur clients will be interested in some type of voice+data serviceas ? |
| 07:05.00 | T` | JerJer, nice |
| 07:05.05 | T` | JerJer, so nthing changed |
| 07:05.12 | JerJer | what more do you need? |
| 07:05.25 | _Eagle_ | T: nope... 98% of my remaining customers are residential |
| 07:05.26 | JerJer | any GUI is going to inhearantly limit the flexability of your config |
| 07:05.27 | T` | JerJer, heh.. monitoring gui or something similar |
| 07:05.32 | Moc | can ulaw transfer 56k data stream ? :) |
| 07:05.32 | JerJer | write one |
| 07:05.42 | _Eagle_ | the other 2% can be counted with fingers on both hands |
| 07:05.52 | JerJer | i've wrote a couple different types of monitoring apps |
| 07:06.20 | Moc | ok better question, can I bridge PRI channel between 2 asterisk |
| 07:06.24 | T` | _Eagle_, i think residentital people will be interested in such service if u can provide a good monthly rate |
| 07:06.53 | T` | _Eagle_, hell.. i am paying like 50/month for each phone |
| 07:06.55 | JerJer | T`: but doing VoIP and lifeline style services isn't cool |
| 07:07.12 | JerJer | gives the regulatory fucks more ammo |
| 07:07.22 | Moc | Sip isnt as stable than a Telco hard line |
| 07:07.30 | Moc | /sip/voip |
| 07:07.37 | _Eagle_ | T: this is dialup... if i try to sell them voip services, i'm basically asking them to cancel their account and get a cable modem first |
| 07:07.37 | JerJer | wrong |
| 07:07.44 | T` | uh.. i guess ur right.. but its not illegal.. and the price variation may be attractive enough |
| 07:07.47 | Moc | also, alot of ppl have DSL witch they HAVE to have a hard phone line anyway |
| 07:07.51 | JerJer | VoIP is only as good as the weakest link in your network |
| 07:08.21 | JerJer | moc: which is total bullshit |
| 07:08.24 | Moc | JerJer: I mean by that that it just another layer |
| 07:08.34 | T` | dsl suks |
| 07:08.40 | JerJer | totally different technology |
| 07:08.43 | Moc | well dsl is everywhere |
| 07:08.54 | T` | i think many people are switching to calbe |
| 07:08.55 | T` | cable |
| 07:08.59 | JerJer | circuit switched vs packet switched |
| 07:09.01 | Moc | I know, but data need a transporting tunnel.. |
| 07:09.09 | T` | but those fucks have quadrupled the pricing in recent years.. |
| 07:09.10 | Moc | witch is fiber/coper/air |
| 07:09.36 | T` | _Eagle_, looked into wireless services ? |
| 07:09.37 | rpb | Yeah, but how about all them teenagers that talk for hours on a phone. They could use the voip over dsl/cable. |
| 07:09.51 | JerJer | rbp: yeppers! |
| 07:09.52 | Moc | hehe yep.. |
| 07:09.56 | _Eagle_ | T: customers are spread over too far of a geographic area |
| 07:10.00 | JerJer | 18-25 demo |
| 07:10.03 | Moc | would cost like 1.60$ US but .. |
| 07:10.14 | Moc | the hours |
| 07:10.18 | Moc | depending of the service |
| 07:10.57 | _Eagle_ | rpb: teenagers usually call their friends, from school, which are a local call anyway |
| 07:11.02 | rpb | Market it as a fab fad: everyone JUST HAS TO HAVE IT. Just like cabbage whatevers. |
| 07:11.17 | Moc | iconnecthere can be cheap if you take a monthy account, but THEY are a bad compagny so .. dont use them .. |
| 07:11.26 | T` | rpb, u get unlimited local calling in most cases |
| 07:11.26 | Moc | pay more to support the GOOD guys.. |
| 07:11.32 | T` | whats there to market for such a thing |
| 07:11.49 | rpb | Yes, but parents really don't want to shell out for a nother few lines at home. Get it cheaper via voip. |
| 07:11.56 | _Eagle_ | around here, residential customers get unlimited local calls to all adjacent exchanges |
| 07:11.59 | T` | uh i c |
| 07:12.07 | rpb | voip to voip, no phone lines |
| 07:12.16 | JerJer | peer-to-peer |
| 07:12.40 | _Eagle_ | rpb: uhh.. a second line here is $14.... i cant provide a VoIP line with unlimited local calls for less than $14 |
| 07:12.46 | T` | has any company tried mobitel services in the US ? |
| 07:12.57 | JerJer | all i can say: 17 Gigibits per second aggragate |
| 07:12.58 | rpb | And sell them those funky h.323 video phones |
| 07:13.00 | Moc | It get cheap to offer VoIP when you haev alot of client |
| 07:13.17 | rpb | pish posh |
| 07:13.21 | rpb | one asterisk server |
| 07:13.21 | Moc | since you wont keep a ratio of 1:1 channel/user |
| 07:13.38 | rpb | to start , and add as you go |
| 07:13.53 | Moc | cost like 23$ cnd the channel here |
| 07:13.58 | T` | JerJer, hwos nufone doing ? |
| 07:14.09 | Moc | if you get a T1.. Dont know maybe like 10 T1 or a T3 cost less than 23$ per channel |
| 07:14.23 | Moc | or a Fiber or what ever is out there that can do voice .. |
| 07:14.49 | _Eagle_ | personally, i think residential services would be a major mistake |
| 07:14.56 | JerJer | T`: rockin |
| 07:15.02 | Moc | our Power compagny is testing Internet over power line |
| 07:15.08 | _Eagle_ | and businesses, as we already discussed regarding voip, have too many problems for my taste |
| 07:15.14 | T` | JerJer, awesome.. good for u |
| 07:15.27 | JerJer | power over fone lines is gonna suck for Ham radio |
| 07:15.29 | JerJer | er |
| 07:15.32 | JerJer | damnit |
| 07:15.33 | Moc | yes Residential service need alot of ppl at support ( |
| 07:15.36 | _Eagle_ | so again, i'm back to chat, conference, IVR, voicemail, etc... incoming services... call centers too... etc |
| 07:15.37 | JerJer | internet over power lines |
| 07:15.47 | T` | _Eagle_, i would think the same if i were to start from scratch. but since u hae a base.. its gotta be to ur advantage to start in that field |
| 07:15.53 | Moc | JerJer: Well aparently our Inteligent ppl at our power compagny found a new way .. |
| 07:16.12 | denon | string cat5? :) |
| 07:16.17 | Moc | Witch is a division of the gouvernement here |
| 07:16.24 | denon | [which] |
| 07:16.28 | denon | witches are the people who ride brooms |
| 07:16.32 | _Eagle_ | T: no way... i already told you, we're very small, and our customers have DIALUP |
| 07:16.41 | Moc | sorry which, I'll try to remember it |
| 07:16.49 | JerJer | or sometimes referred to as wife |
| 07:16.52 | _Eagle_ | T: i cant sell them voip services unless i tell them to cancel and get a cable modem from my competition |
| 07:16.52 | JerJer | :) |
| 07:16.55 | Moc | lol hehe |
| 07:16.55 | denon | mhmm |
| 07:16.59 | denon | them's the ones |
| 07:17.08 | Moc | Dont have one yet so I can buy telco stuff for the moment .. |
| 07:17.46 | Moc | once I get one, see the masive sell on ebay from me .. all kind of stuff .. |
| 07:18.13 | rpb | Eagle: can you get UNE's run? You try to do your own dsl type of connections if you can get your main termination close enough to the CO. |
| 07:18.25 | denon | man .. stupid little coding issue. any of you guys do web scripting? |
| 07:18.34 | Moc | denon: php here.. |
| 07:18.39 | Moc | but it kind of late .. |
| 07:18.45 | Moc | mind is running slow .. |
| 07:19.11 | denon | moc: say im scraping a page from a remote server .. course the img links will be local, so I need to parse em .. |
| 07:19.11 | Moc | does VoIP over GPRS work ? |
| 07:19.28 | denon | whats the cleanest way to part em .. src= host + current isnt really gonna work .. |
| 07:19.28 | Moc | <img src="localimage.gif"> |
| 07:19.35 | Moc | hehe |
| 07:19.37 | denon | cause they might have .. uh, huh? |
| 07:19.40 | _Eagle_ | rpb: you can only get UNE's if you're a CLEC, and it wouldnt matter, because my customers are way too scattered over a huge geographic area |
| 07:19.46 | denon | you know what I mean by scraping right? |
| 07:19.46 | _Eagle_ | you would have to be in like 30 CO's |
| 07:20.07 | Moc | yes ... |
| 07:20.22 | JerJer | i think its time to migrate to the coutch and see whats on the tivo |
| 07:20.25 | Moc | just dont understand what your saying |
| 07:20.34 | JerJer | cause i know their ain't shit on real tv |
| 07:20.40 | denon | I dont really wanna parse each image tag, and see if they have something like /images/blah.gif, or images/blah.gif or just blah.gif |
| 07:21.00 | denon | im gonna need to append http://blah.com/whatever to their tags |
| 07:21.05 | rpb | There is something called targetted marketing to bring on a new base of customers. Anyway, maybe UNE is not the right term. I was able to get unbundled local loops back in Canada. Havn't tried here in the US. 'Sometimes they are known as alarm circuits, just to get around the clec issue. |
| 07:21.20 | JerJer | LAD lines |
| 07:21.24 | rpb | yep |
| 07:21.30 | denon | uh, those arent legal to use for data are they? |
| 07:21.32 | JerJer | that's the hard way of doing DSL |
| 07:21.44 | rpb | poor mans way but it was cheap and it worked |
| 07:21.48 | JerJer | yep |
| 07:22.01 | _Eagle_ | rpb: DSL is a money losing business, plain and simple |
| 07:22.06 | Moc | ok I see.. dont see why you want that but ... |
| 07:22.07 | _Eagle_ | ive been telling people that since 1998 |
| 07:22.08 | rpb | denon: you can put on them what ever you want |
| 07:22.20 | Moc | _Eagle_: Not really, got ppl here selling DSL, making alot of money from it |
| 07:22.33 | JerJer | rbp: but the telco doesn't have to make the loop as short as possible either |
| 07:22.39 | rpb | eagle, yep, but a loss leader if you get voip running on top |
| 07:22.49 | JerJer | Moc: prolly cash flow, not really profit |
| 07:22.52 | denon | Moc: cause the page will look local, even though its remote content |
| 07:23.00 | JerJer | DSL has big expenses |
| 07:23.04 | Moc | JerJer: No profit, they upgraded their server soom.. |
| 07:23.04 | denon | I just need to convert the links without a whole buncha parsing |
| 07:23.13 | Moc | JerJer: Depend, here it nice .. |
| 07:23.24 | JerJer | profit is paying phat dividends |
| 07:23.25 | Moc | Bell Canada does all the hard work |
| 07:23.30 | _Eagle_ | i really dont want to offer voip at all, and i especially dont want to offer it to residential users |
| 07:23.36 | JerJer | upgrading data centers is staying afloat |
| 07:23.43 | Moc | and it cost like 15$/month for DSL to them |
| 07:23.58 | JerJer | but then u got the DSLAM |
| 07:23.59 | Moc | they bring a Fiber link to your location, and you reroute everything to the internet |
| 07:24.01 | JerJer | and the CRM |
| 07:24.13 | JerJer | and tech sup |
| 07:24.13 | Moc | you also need a RADIUS server .. |
| 07:24.13 | JerJer | yep |
| 07:24.20 | JerJer | which is a big pain in itself |
| 07:24.21 | Moc | well they resell it to other provider :) so they dont do support hehe |
| 07:24.35 | _Eagle_ | DSL here costs more to provide than you can charge the end user for it |
| 07:24.40 | Moc | Like radio station sell DSL here.. |
| 07:25.07 | JerJer | its calling |
| 07:25.15 | Moc | hehe |
| 07:25.33 | _Eagle_ | i think i saw somewhere SBC is now selling DSL for like $26 or something... and it was a money losing proposition back when you had to price it at $49.95 :-) |
| 07:25.43 | Moc | cost 29.95CND per month for 1.5mbits |
| 07:25.46 | Moc | unlimited transfer |
| 07:25.54 | jrollyson | with alarm circuits they are likely to throw load coils and bridge taps in just to spite you |
| 07:26.05 | JerJer | jrollyson: oh yeah |
| 07:26.12 | jrollyson | and run the loop a few extra miles out of the way. |
| 07:26.13 | JerJer | u know i t |
| 07:26.15 | Moc | ou 49.95$cnd per month for 3mbits down and 800kbits up |
| 07:26.33 | denon | is it really legal to use alarm circuits for whatever you want? |
| 07:26.34 | Moc | witch is faster than my cable witch cost me 70$cnd per month .. |
| 07:26.42 | JerJer | esp if they know you are already a dialup ISP |
| 07:26.49 | denon | Moc: which |
| 07:27.06 | Moc | radio station : http://www.ckoi.com/ckoi2/HVForfaits.php |
| 07:27.19 | JerJer | denon: GTE did it for us back in the day |
| 07:27.22 | Moc | DSL is cheap here |
| 07:27.23 | jrollyson | denon: alarm circuits are still a necessity, so they have to offer them, and IIRC, you can do whatever so long as it doesnt interfere with or damage the telco's facilities. |
| 07:27.23 | JerJer | but things may have changed |
| 07:27.27 | _Eagle_ | you cant get alarm circuits here anymore.. they're not tarriffed anymore... |
| 07:27.47 | JerJer | hell yeah.. hook a welder up to the LAD circuit |
| 07:27.49 | Moc | probably because our Telco is more advanced in general that in the US |
| 07:28.05 | jrollyson | you can generally get them, banks have to have them still. |
| 07:28.13 | voidptr | moo. |
| 07:28.24 | denon | they're still just a dry pair? |
| 07:28.31 | rpb | Bell canada tried to detarrif the ldds circuit, but ran into a road block, sso they are still around |
| 07:28.31 | denon | so you could toss a couple dsl modems on em or somethin> |
| 07:28.35 | bkw_ | SWAT was a damn good movie |
| 07:28.37 | _Eagle_ | they stopped offering alarm circuits well before 1995 at least, maybe even earlier |
| 07:28.59 | jrollyson | denon: usually an deliberately poorly conditioned dry pair. |
| 07:28.59 | Moc | bell canada have alot of money from Home custumer witch still cost alot. so they are fine .. |
| 07:29.17 | Moc | 20$ CND for home phone line |
| 07:29.22 | Moc | 10$ for caller id |
| 07:29.23 | _Eagle_ | why would a bank need a dry loop from the telco? |
| 07:29.31 | Moc | option is a big money makerr |
| 07:29.39 | jrollyson | _Eagle_: alarm to police station. |
| 07:29.49 | Moc | brb |
| 07:29.53 | _Eagle_ | uhh... use a POTS line |
| 07:30.11 | _Eagle_ | with cellular backup in case the copper is cut |
| 07:30.13 | jrollyson | _Eagle_: a pots line can be jammed by calls. |
| 07:30.31 | jrollyson | same with anything that has a phone number. |
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| 07:30.43 | _Eagle_ | i'd be very surprised if any banks around here have a dry loop to the police |
| 07:30.55 | jrollyson | alarm circuts can be deployed in normally closed loops |
| 07:31.04 | jrollyson | so if the loop opens, the alarm sounds. |
| 07:31.13 | jrollyson | ie, cut a wire, RING |
| 07:31.43 | _Eagle_ | well, this isnt 1970 anymore |
| 07:31.51 | MocMoc | take 3 to 4 minutes for police to get there anyway |
| 07:31.55 | jrollyson | dry loops are also used for off premise extensions. |
| 07:32.18 | rpb | OPX lines, yes those are still around, |
| 07:32.32 | _Eagle_ | i know an alarm installer... i'm gonna ask him next time i see him |
| 07:32.42 | _Eagle_ | i'm sure he'l tell me i'm insane for asking |
| 07:32.49 | MocMoc | lol |
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| 07:33.13 | jrollyson | _Eagle_: its rare that alarm circuits are used, but there are applications that require them. |
| 07:33.16 | MocMoc | Can VoIP goes over GPRS Link ? |
| 07:33.19 | rpb | Welcome to my insanity. I'm the sane one, everyone else is the insane ones. |
| 07:33.22 | MocMoc | or GPRS is too week and slow ? |
| 07:33.46 | _Eagle_ | well, anyway |
| 07:33.54 | _Eagle_ | i think i need to get up and move around a bit |
| 07:34.00 | MocMoc | Got someone doing building to building DSL dry loop |
| 07:34.03 | _Eagle_ | my legs are cramping up from sitting here too long |
| 07:34.25 | _Eagle_ | plus i should probably go to bed soon |
| 07:34.34 | MocMoc | yep bed :( |
| 07:34.38 | MocMoc | last day today |
| 07:34.39 | _Eagle_ | so if i dont come back, you know why |
| 07:34.45 | MocMoc | Vacation until next monday |
| 07:34.52 | _Eagle_ | bye folks |
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| 07:34.57 | MocMoc | cya _Eagle_ |
| 07:37.22 | T` | gotta go now.. later ppl |
| 07:37.24 | Moc | another bug.. I asterisk -vvvr it did an automatic reload and after that it crashed .. |
| 07:37.34 | Moc | nite |
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| 07:51.26 | boo | sigh |
| 07:51.54 | blll | softphone over gprs |
| 07:51.55 | blll | amusing |
| 07:52.03 | Moc | what ? |
| 07:52.11 | Moc | just a question ;) |
| 07:52.18 | boo | lol |
| 07:52.35 | Moc | I got a pocket PC with a bluetooth headset |
| 07:52.38 | cman | anyone used astguiclient???? |
| 07:52.44 | Moc | and a bluetooth cellphone with bluetooth .. |
| 07:52.59 | Moc | sorry it late for me hehe .. |
| 07:53.12 | blll | moc, try it out and let us know :) |
| 07:53.15 | boo | i've got a whitetooth and a browntooth |
| 07:53.52 | Moc | lol hehe I tryed, but the softphone for pocketpc I dl need a serial # .. |
| 07:53.59 | Moc | not going to buy it just for fun |
| 07:54.11 | Moc | It just Ive receive my new iPAQ 4150 today .. |
| 07:54.19 | boo | if you google voip gprs |
| 07:54.21 | Moc | with the Bluetooth GPS also hehe ... REALLY nice .. |
| 07:54.21 | boo | stuff pops up |
| 07:56.09 | boo | moc gets so excited |
| 07:56.12 | boo | it's cute |
| 07:56.40 | rpb | How does voip gprs work? |
| 07:56.55 | Moc | well GPRS provide you IP access to network (internet) |
| 07:57.11 | Moc | so you connect to your Asterisk box using a software |
| 07:57.31 | voidptr | so |
| 07:57.32 | Moc | well that the way I was thinking about it |
| 07:57.40 | voidptr | who provides cheap gprs? ;) |
| 07:57.52 | Moc | cheap gprs.. no one .. i guess |
| 07:57.56 | boo | cheaper to use the phone |
| 07:57.57 | boo | hehe |
| 07:58.01 | voidptr | its kinda pointless :) |
| 07:58.02 | Moc | Cost 50$cnd /month |
| 07:58.11 | Moc | for unlimited gprs data transfer |
| 07:58.17 | voidptr | hum |
| 07:58.22 | voidptr | they dont have that here |
| 07:58.29 | Moc | it Rogers AT&T |
| 07:58.29 | boo | i get unlimited mobile calls for 39 USD/mo |
| 07:58.43 | voidptr | its costs like 50$ to get 20MB or so |
| 07:58.58 | voidptr | us... |
| 07:59.00 | voidptr | god dammit |
| 07:59.01 | voidptr | ;) |
| 07:59.14 | Moc | well it might just be a promotion but hey. . |
| 07:59.37 | Moc | practicly everything is cheap in canada |
| 08:00.02 | denon | pity it's canada :) |
| 08:00.41 | boo | yeah i hear taxes are great in canada |
| 08:00.52 | Moc | some taxe here pissed us of thought .. |
| 08:01.01 | Moc | cost like 14% tax sale |
| 08:01.09 | boo | your liberal govt likes the taxes |
| 08:01.21 | Moc | yes DAMN liberal.. I hate liberal gov.. |
| 08:01.38 | Moc | they are full of shit ... like Bush in the US ! |
| 08:01.48 | boo | uhh bush isn't liberal |
| 08:02.10 | Moc | no but still a bad gov |
| 08:03.02 | Moc | but there is alot of ppl that just dont see it .. |
| 08:03.20 | Moc | like liberal being in power for i dont know how many year .. |
| 08:03.34 | Moc | 1 girl got power at one time for a few month I think, but that it |
| 08:06.06 | denon | face it, we're bigger than you, and you've gotta share a continent with us .. so settle down. |
| 08:06.08 | denon | :) |
| 08:06.21 | boo | lol |
| 08:06.35 | Moc | well actually we are bigger ;) |
| 08:06.42 | boo | moc wants to split his part off from canada anyway |
| 08:06.46 | denon | wanna bet? |
| 08:07.17 | Moc | we are now the largest country in the world (since the URSS splited up) |
| 08:07.34 | Moc | alot of ice but still... ;) |
| 08:07.51 | denon | Moc: but . . you speak french .. I mean ... :) |
| 08:08.08 | boo | ouch |
| 08:08.18 | denon | im only kiddin' |
| 08:08.26 | boo | canada has what... 30 million people? |
| 08:08.40 | Moc | that sound about right |
| 08:09.18 | Moc | The big difference I guess it I dont care about the country, I care about the conditions ... |
| 08:09.25 | boo | US has 292 milllion |
| 08:09.58 | boo | we get one new person every 12 seconds |
| 08:10.19 | denon | wow .. there really is a sucker born every minute |
| 08:10.24 | Moc | lol ;) |
| 08:12.12 | Moc | It different at both places .. |
| 08:12.34 | Moc | Like we got free health plan, and medicine is also cheaper here .. |
| 08:12.56 | boo | you pay for it just the same |
| 08:13.00 | boo | taxes |
| 08:13.02 | denon | dunno if its "Free" if you pay 14% tax |
| 08:13.13 | denon | thats like calling it "Free shipping" when you pay retail price |
| 08:13.28 | Moc | hehe yes it different way of paying it, but everyone has it .. |
| 08:13.44 | Moc | I dont like the idea, dont have money, dies in front of the hospital |
| 08:13.44 | denon | yeah .. there are advantages everywhere |
| 08:13.51 | denon | its not quite like that .. |
| 08:14.05 | denon | if you dont have money, they fix you, and you spend the rest of your life washing dishes at the hospital |
| 08:14.22 | Moc | lol hehe yea hehe |
| 08:14.23 | boo | yeah i really want some bum drug dealer mooching off of my taxes so he can get 'free' health care |
| 08:14.40 | denon | NEW TOPIC |
| 08:14.42 | Moc | drugs is cheaper here |
| 08:14.51 | voidptr | its cheaper here |
| 08:14.55 | voidptr | :P |
| 08:15.38 | Moc | ok let stop it then.. both place have their advantages and disavantages.. |
| 08:16.03 | voidptr | suckers! |
| 08:16.04 | voidptr | :P |
| 08:16.18 | Moc | hehe ... |
| 08:17.13 | boo | Moc: you were born there? |
| 08:17.14 | voidptr | time to take a shower |
| 08:17.17 | Moc | one thing I hate about being here, is the price of the Digium card ;) After exchange rate .. |
| 08:17.32 | Moc | + Custom taxes .. |
| 08:17.44 | Moc | yes |
| 08:17.51 | boo | can't you get nafta paperwork and fix that? |
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| 08:18.41 | Moc | but boo, 1 big difference is american are proud to be american, I canadian dont fucking care, as long as it good living here.. |
| 08:18.54 | Moc | and they dont send me to stupid war .. Im happy |
| 08:19.17 | _Eagle_ | in the united states, what is the going rate for on-site technical computer help (for businesses), and also, what do these technicians get paid by their employers? |
| 08:19.24 | voidptr | americans don't know any better |
| 08:19.25 | voidptr | :D |
| 08:19.42 | boo | I'd say starting is around $50/hr |
| 08:19.46 | voidptr | _Eagle_ : too much, and too little :) |
| 08:19.59 | boo | up to around $150/hr for networking crap |
| 08:20.01 | Moc | the store charge 75$ CND |
| 08:20.20 | Moc | it depend |
| 08:20.29 | _Eagle_ | like, i thought i heard somewhere that CompUSA charges $95/hour for on site technical help |
| 08:20.33 | _Eagle_ | but i cant confirm it |
| 08:20.35 | Moc | like it free for us, but we buy like 500000$ of server each year from them |
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| 08:20.53 | boo | i figured compusa would be cheaper |
| 08:21.10 | boo | but it wouldn't surprise me |
| 08:21.28 | Moc | our Local Computer store charge like 75/hours on site ... dont know about the response time |
| 08:21.34 | _Eagle_ | boo: where geographically do you think it would be $50/hour |
| 08:21.35 | _Eagle_ | ? |
| 08:22.24 | _Eagle_ | and what do you think the employee gets paid by the company providing support? |
| 08:22.30 | boo | i'd say that's lowball for practically anywhere doign simple desktop support |
| 08:22.48 | boo | usually around half if it's a consulting company paying per hour |
| 08:22.52 | Moc | here technician get payed 20$/hours minimum for answering the phone and fixing outlook and helping in word |
| 08:24.00 | _Eagle_ | boo: ok... so say $25/hour... is that an hourly wage, even if there is no billable hours that day/week? |
| 08:24.14 | boo | no... you pay them per hour billed |
| 08:24.21 | _Eagle_ | or is it "when we can charge $50 for an hour, we give you $25 for that hour... if we cant charge, you dont get paid" |
| 08:25.01 | boo | depends on your biz model... but most consulting companies pay their employees per hour billed |
| 08:25.01 | Moc | ish ... I'll let you to that .. I would personally say fuck you if my boss tell me that .. |
| 08:25.11 | _Eagle_ | is that the normal way things work with on-site tech companies though? employees dont get paid for travel time, sitting around the office waiting for work, etc? |
| 08:25.17 | Moc | we dont charge that client, so your going to work for free for me |
| 08:25.43 | boo | _Eagle_: I've worked for a big consulting company doing onsite cisco stuff |
| 08:25.52 | Moc | you provide the veicule _Eagle_ ? |
| 08:25.57 | boo | I got paid for travel time and tech time... and for mileage |
| 08:26.10 | _Eagle_ | were you full time or part time? |
| 08:26.27 | _Eagle_ | moc: lets say no... employee uses his own car, in this example |
| 08:26.34 | boo | I worked about 40-50 hrs week |
| 08:26.46 | boo | but it depended on the workload |
| 08:26.58 | Moc | then mileage is added, and it isn't cheap generally |
| 08:26.59 | boo | if I didn't go onsite that week |
| 08:27.02 | boo | i did not get paid |
| 08:27.03 | _Eagle_ | so were you considered an independent contractor, rather than an employee? |
| 08:27.18 | boo | yup |
| 08:27.35 | boo | if you're the employer... i would suggest working it that way |
| 08:27.51 | _Eagle_ | but did you set your own hours? or did your boss set them for you? |
| 08:28.11 | boo | each morning i got a list of jobs in my queue |
| 08:28.30 | boo | i pretty much set my own schedule |
| 08:28.37 | boo | unless they had a special request |
| 08:29.21 | boo | they have some special contracts with 4 hours reponse times |
| 08:30.14 | _Eagle_ | see, thats the one problem |
| 08:30.23 | boo | lol denon |
| 08:30.24 | _Eagle_ | i would want to have more control over the timing |
| 08:30.38 | _Eagle_ | if a customer calls at 2pm and says they need help.... |
| 08:30.51 | _Eagle_ | i'd like to get someone there by 3pm if they're not busy with something else |
| 08:31.10 | boo | response times like that cost your customers more money |
| 08:31.15 | _Eagle_ | and be able to set appointment times, etc |
| 08:31.21 | boo | that is a very atypical response time |
| 08:31.34 | _Eagle_ | you think so? |
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| 08:31.51 | boo | you can set their schedules |
| 08:32.00 | boo | if you pad hours into it |
| 08:32.47 | _Eagle_ | so basically, someone calls cisco for help... and they get told "someone will be out there today between 9 and 5" ? |
| 08:33.08 | _Eagle_ | and if you get them in your queue, you decide if you want to service them at 9 am or 2 pm or 4:30 or whatever? |
| 08:33.09 | boo | they would say "you will get a call before 12pm tomorrow" |
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| 08:33.33 | boo | I call them in the morning and say "how does 11a-1p work?" |
| 08:33.57 | boo | and I arrive sometime in that time period |
| 08:34.25 | boo | the next I would try to schedule 12p-2p or 1p-3p |
| 08:34.28 | boo | depending on the call |
| 08:35.13 | boo | i.e. if I knew the call might take extra time |
| 08:35.33 | _Eagle_ | did they ever have same day help, or did they usually have to wait for the next business day for help? |
| 08:35.50 | boo | the 4 hour calls were same day |
| 08:36.04 | _Eagle_ | did you get paid extra for a 4 hour call? |
| 08:36.10 | boo | nope |
| 08:36.40 | _Eagle_ | so it was just part of your agreement... that when they asked you to do a rush job, you did it, with no extra compensation? |
| 08:37.00 | boo | usually i would just juggle my schedule... and it was like any other call |
| 08:37.14 | boo | possibly screwing one of the next day customers |
| 08:37.27 | boo | but, yes, same pay |
| 08:38.11 | _Eagle_ | and you would get paid 50% of what cisco charged the customer? |
| 08:38.23 | _Eagle_ | plus mileage, plus travel time? |
| 08:38.50 | boo | i was sub contracted through another company that paid me 50% of what they were paid |
| 08:39.18 | _Eagle_ | what did you get paid for travel time? the same hourly rate they paid you for the work? |
| 08:39.23 | boo | yup |
| 08:39.31 | boo | mileage was paid to me in expenses |
| 08:39.33 | _Eagle_ | did THEY get paid for travel time from cisco? |
| 08:39.39 | boo | yup |
| 08:39.43 | _Eagle_ | ah |
| 08:39.46 | _Eagle_ | ok |
| 08:39.55 | _Eagle_ | did cisco pay mileage too? |
| 08:40.04 | boo | yup |
| 08:40.10 | _Eagle_ | ah.. i see now |
| 08:40.23 | _Eagle_ | so basically, your employers NEVER lost money on this deal |
| 08:40.29 | _Eagle_ | they always made 50% no matter what |
| 08:40.38 | boo | except on the mileage |
| 08:40.39 | boo | yes |
| 08:40.52 | _Eagle_ | yeah, but they didn't lose money on the mileage either |
| 08:40.53 | boo | the mileage was just passed through |
| 08:41.02 | _Eagle_ | its not like the mileage came out of their 50% of your time |
| 08:41.07 | boo | nope |
| 08:41.18 | boo | easy money for the consulting company |
| 08:41.23 | _Eagle_ | yeah |
| 08:41.25 | boo | all they had to do was send me my check |
| 08:41.27 | _Eagle_ | hmmm |
| 08:41.36 | _Eagle_ | did they have a lot of people like you? |
| 08:41.42 | boo | (and make the initial sell to me... and to cisco) |
| 08:42.07 | boo | at least a dozen doing the same account |
| 08:42.11 | boo | in different states |
| 08:42.37 | _Eagle_ | and as far as you know, they were all paid the same way? |
| 08:42.51 | boo | well i've done plenty of contracts |
| 08:43.01 | boo | and it's usually fairly close to 50% |
| 08:43.18 | boo | of course the consulting company tries to pay you the least amount possible |
| 08:43.44 | boo | but generally, 50% is a good rule |
| 08:44.02 | boo | if you get down to the $10/hr range |
| 08:44.06 | _Eagle_ | ive got some companies asking me for on-site support, but i dont want to pay an employee for a 40 hour wage week if we only have 15 or 20 billable hours of consulting time... |
| 08:44.07 | boo | i'm sure the ratio is different |
| 08:44.29 | boo | you shouldn't have to |
| 08:44.30 | boo | never |
| 08:45.13 | boo | there are plenty of people that will work a job like that |
| 08:45.29 | _Eagle_ | so this is a normal sort of practice, across the country? consultants do this kind of thing often? |
| 08:45.41 | boo | very normal |
| 08:45.45 | _Eagle_ | cool |
| 08:45.52 | boo | hehe |
| 08:46.10 | boo | i've been in these situations more times than i can count |
| 08:46.13 | _Eagle_ | i've even been considering making this a new part of my business |
| 08:46.39 | _Eagle_ | since the isp side is dying out.... maybe go back to consulting, but this time have employees instead of trying to do it all myself |
| 08:46.55 | boo | well then you'll be the sales guy |
| 08:47.00 | boo | unless you hire sales staff |
| 08:47.05 | boo | then they take a cut of the 50% |
| 08:47.20 | _Eagle_ | i can handle the sales part |
| 08:47.27 | _Eagle_ | im not great at it, but i can get by |
| 08:47.40 | boo | perfect |
| 08:47.47 | boo | what's stopping you |
| 08:47.49 | boo | easy money |
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| 08:48.03 | netwind | hi |
| 08:48.11 | boo | hiya netwind |
| 08:48.23 | _Eagle_ | i have 2 big concerns... 1) finding competant employees, and 2) having enough billable hours so that i dont lose money after i pay the employees and other expenses |
| 08:48.35 | _Eagle_ | but according to you, #2 might not be a problem anymore |
| 08:48.35 | netwind | how i can write into mgcp config endpoint name with [] brackets ? |
| 08:48.47 | netwind | [[endpoint]] does not work |
| 08:49.28 | _Eagle_ | netwind: any chance you can get the other end to change names? :-) |
| 08:49.38 | boo | throw an ad in the paper... find someone responsible... if they don't work out... fire them fast and go to the next |
| 08:49.41 | netwind | _Eagle_: no ( |
| 08:49.45 | boo | you should get tons of responses to your ad |
| 08:50.22 | boo | and you're only paying them for each hour they bill... so you'll always have neough to pay them |
| 08:50.41 | _Eagle_ | i guess it's wise to have them sign a contract or something |
| 08:50.52 | _Eagle_ | that outlines that they only get paid for billable hours |
| 08:50.58 | boo | yeah |
| 08:51.11 | _Eagle_ | and that says the customers are mine, not theirs... etc |
| 08:51.12 | boo | and it's good if someone has e&o insurance too |
| 08:51.34 | boo | but if you operate without it now |
| 08:51.36 | boo | it's no different |
| 08:51.56 | voidptr | http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/US/12/30/ny.security/story.times.square.ap.jpg |
| 08:52.02 | voidptr | looks like some nazi soldier ;) |
| 08:52.04 | boo | if you can afford the lawyer to do the writeups... do it.... if not... I'd say just go for it |
| 08:53.33 | boo | you're going to make mistakes anyway... just dive in and tweak your biz when the problems arise |
| 08:53.40 | voidptr | can i already opt out from all the new years wished on asterisk-users?? |
| 08:54.01 | voidptr | wishes |
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| 08:54.25 | _Eagle_ | boo: thanks for the info and advice.... |
| 08:54.41 | _Eagle_ | that's very interesting stuff... i'm going to have to think about this one seriously |
| 08:54.42 | boo | sure |
| 08:54.53 | boo | sorry I talk too much ;) |
| 08:55.00 | _Eagle_ | not at all |
| 08:55.30 | _Eagle_ | i *think* i can get a lot of consulting work from small businesses in the area |
| 08:55.37 | _Eagle_ | but i'm not sure |
| 08:55.47 | _Eagle_ | worth a try however |
| 08:55.47 | boo | the hardest part is getting the business |
| 08:55.56 | boo | the easy part is connecting them with a tech |
| 08:56.12 | boo | go for it :) |
| 08:57.11 | _Eagle_ | i would really want to build a strong relationship with the techs though |
| 08:57.24 | _Eagle_ | make sure they represent my company professionally and do good work |
| 08:57.38 | _Eagle_ | and that they are long term players |
| 08:58.04 | _Eagle_ | i suppose you can do that with independent contractors just as much as you can with employees |
| 08:58.05 | boo | you'd be surprised who you can pick up off the street nowadays |
| 08:58.23 | boo | totally |
| 09:02.46 | _Eagle_ | well, thanks again |
| 09:02.51 | _Eagle_ | i gotta get some sleep |
| 09:03.11 | _Eagle_ | bye folks |
| 09:30.31 | RoyK | mrnng ll |
| 09:34.13 | lecram | morning |
| 09:34.59 | voidptr | morn lecram |
| 09:35.23 | RoyK | MORNING ALL |
| 09:35.34 | Lee3 | late afternoon here |
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| 09:40.20 | [Sim] | morning here too |
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| 09:42.28 | mbranca | mooo |
| 09:44.22 | voidptr | hey mbranca |
| 09:44.27 | voidptr | morning [Sim] |
| 09:46.05 | ]data[ | mornink |
| 09:47.33 | voidptr | shiiiiit |
| 09:47.43 | voidptr | this coffee gives me a major headache |
| 09:47.54 | [Sim] | huh? |
| 09:47.59 | [Sim] | it usually takes mine away |
| 09:48.58 | voidptr | its machine coffee |
| 09:49.12 | voidptr | from a jar |
| 09:49.15 | voidptr | :P |
| 09:49.23 | voidptr | yuuuuck |
| 09:49.44 | voidptr | its like mud in a jar which you mix with hot wate r:P |
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| 09:53.23 | [Sim] | aah |
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| 10:01.15 | discordia | morning |
| 10:01.57 | discordia | oh voidptr ... in 5 minutes i have fresh hot great Bahia Brasialian Coffee |
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| 10:04.28 | Bonbon | guys, anyone ever had problems with the tdm card dropping calls after 5 mins? |
| 10:09.38 | voidptr | discordia : mooo, yum |
| 10:12.17 | RoyK | BREW mug HTCPCP/1.0 |
| 10:16.06 | discordia | hmm can i place calles which * makes at 0:00 today and then playes some files ? |
| 10:16.43 | RoyK | hm. the weather report say we'll have a quite ordinary new year's eve with -30 degrees :( |
| 10:17.43 | discordia | juhu !! i recently got 2 new computers :) |
| 10:19.09 | Chaosdefiasco | tell me |
| 10:19.22 | RoyK | PPRO 160s? |
| 10:19.24 | Chaosdefiasco | how to free a zap channel thats busy talkin to someone |
| 10:19.25 | Chaosdefiasco | :p |
| 10:19.30 | Chaosdefiasco | hurry up |
| 10:19.35 | RoyK | soft hangup |
| 10:19.44 | RoyK | init 6 |
| 10:19.47 | RoyK | lots of ways |
| 10:20.04 | Chaosdefiasco | init 6 ;@ |
| 10:20.21 | Chaosdefiasco | the system shud automatically do that |
| 10:20.25 | RoyK | it _will_ release it |
| 10:20.27 | Chaosdefiasco | thru a crond or agi entry |
| 10:20.37 | Chaosdefiasco | at 6:00 AM |
| 10:20.42 | Chaosdefiasco | thats the requirement here |
| 10:20.55 | RoyK | stop all cals at 6am? |
| 10:21.01 | Chaosdefiasco | not all |
| 10:21.05 | Chaosdefiasco | only Zap/1 |
| 10:21.06 | RoyK | just one? |
| 10:21.09 | Chaosdefiasco | yeah |
| 10:21.17 | RoyK | soft hangup zap/1 ? |
| 10:21.38 | Chaosdefiasco | but that requires asterisk console |
| 10:21.49 | Chaosdefiasco | n some human operator to type |
| 10:22.20 | RoyK | should be possible to do that through the manager or AGI, though |
| 10:25.40 | voidptr | hummm |
| 10:25.46 | voidptr | wasim still down |
| 10:25.54 | voidptr | i bet its that layer 4 crap again |
| 10:26.03 | voidptr | : idle : 42 hours 0 mins 45 secs (signon: Thu Dec 25 18:33:57 2003) |
| 10:26.05 | voidptr | dude! |
| 10:26.27 | voidptr | he needs to get a irc life! |
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| 10:42.13 | voidptr | metallica unforgiven |
| 10:42.19 | voidptr | can't help it |
| 10:42.19 | voidptr | :P |
| 10:49.08 | discordia | mo0O too |
| 10:50.42 | voidptr | buaha :P |
| 10:54.43 | discordia | uh got a segfault |
| 10:55.31 | discordia | should i open a bug entry at bugs.digium.org? |
| 10:56.59 | voidptr | if you have details :) |
| 10:57.10 | discordia | yeah i could reproduce it |
| 10:57.27 | voidptr | got core? |
| 10:57.30 | geertn | Any webinterfaces known build on python/pyst for asterisk? |
| 10:57.45 | voidptr | geertn : none in python that i know of |
| 10:58.15 | discordia | voidptr: not now. how can i get it? |
| 10:58.33 | voidptr | if you start * with "g" |
| 10:58.39 | discordia | ok ill do |
| 10:58.41 | voidptr | it should dump core on itself |
| 10:58.46 | geertn | voidptr: I know astweb/vmail.cgi but I want a web interface that allows adding/removing conferences, extensions, enabling disabling voicemail etc... Know of any? |
| 10:59.24 | voidptr | geertn : not yet, only ones that directly interface with the config files, i guess you are not looking for those :) |
| 11:00.18 | geertn | Well, interfacing with the config files is the way to go I guess, but I think you mean directly editing the file.... I think I'm going to build an interface based on pyst... |
| 11:00.36 | voidptr | some database... |
| 11:00.39 | discordia | hmmm voidptr. in the third try it works ... |
| 11:00.46 | discordia | i have to test it |
| 11:00.50 | voidptr | k :) |
| 11:00.50 | geertn | pyst seems to have config file parsing already so that's nice.. |
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| 11:10.58 | discordia | what does this mean: Failed to execute '/var/lib/asterisk/agi-bin/simple-agi': Exec format error |
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| 11:15.24 | discordia | voidptr: i got the core. i could reproduce the error |
| 11:15.29 | discordia | and now ? |
| 11:18.27 | voidptr | gdb `which asterisk` core |
| 11:18.29 | voidptr | bt |
| 11:18.50 | Bonbon | guys, does the cisco ata-186 not support stun? |
| 11:19.42 | discordia | hmmmm /root/core.14818": not in executable format: File format not recognized |
| 11:19.47 | discordia | but its ELF |
| 11:19.54 | voidptr | maybe other way around |
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| 11:23.36 | high-rez | *yawn* |
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| 11:23.52 | Nix | hey guys |
| 11:24.02 | high-rez | word |
| 11:24.06 | Nix | levon: Mutlu Yillar |
| 11:25.06 | voidptr | hey nix |
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| 11:25.37 | john___ | hello ! |
| 11:25.58 | high-rez | man this palce is active at 3:22 am |
| 11:26.15 | john___ | i am trying some test with * and iaxcomm on the internet. I have a big latency delay. Do you know if i can reduce some buffer size in * or iaxcomm source code ? |
| 11:26.39 | john___ | I'm a french guy ;) it's noon here |
| 11:26.40 | Nix | hey voidptr |
| 11:26.59 | Nix | high-rez: I think you will find that it 1:25 here in Istanbul.. |
| 11:27.06 | Nix | let me guess you are an american :-) |
| 11:27.32 | john___ | why american ? |
| 11:27.33 | high-rez | Nix: until they start drafting us. |
| 11:27.44 | Nix | lol |
| 11:27.44 | high-rez | Nix: Then I'm a canadian! :) |
| 11:27.54 | Nix | shouldn't be long now ;-) |
| 11:28.39 | john___ | are there some iaxcomm/IAX2 experts here ? ! |
| 11:28.47 | Nix | john___: Oh. No reason in particular ;-) |
| 11:28.52 | high-rez | john: I'm sorry, you just want to decrease the buffer ? |
| 11:29.21 | john___ | i want to reduce latency delay ! |
| 11:29.22 | Nix | john___: If you have big latency, decreasing any buffer will make it more likely to chop the autio.. jitter etc |
| 11:29.45 | high-rez | john: You can try decreasing the jitter buffer. mixjitterbuffer=n in iax.conf |
| 11:29.52 | high-rez | john: I think thats ms |
| 11:30.22 | john___ | great ! i don t have to patch source code :) |
| 11:30.25 | john___ | thanks |
| 11:31.34 | john___ | good apetit :) |
| 11:35.00 | high-rez | cool, this place went back to being dead. |
| 11:36.36 | Nix | maybe 1pm is a little soon to start drinking :-) |
| 11:36.53 | high-rez | man.... i havent been able to have a drink in so long. |
| 11:37.01 | Nix | why? |
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| 11:37.24 | high-rez | i read or saw on tv or something this report that says drinking alcohol often actually shrinks your bran. |
| 11:37.26 | high-rez | err, brain |
| 11:37.34 | high-rez | and it just freaked me out. |
| 11:37.43 | high-rez | like creating a pickel! :) |
| 11:38.15 | Nix | lol |
| 11:38.21 | Nix | hmm.. bbl |
| 11:38.23 | high-rez | i dunno if i'll be drinking tonight or not. prolly so, i'm sure they were talking about people who like constnatly have a high blood alcohol level. |
| 11:38.26 | high-rez | l8z |
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| 11:45.50 | mbranca | ~frag all |
| 11:45.53 | | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at all |
| 11:46.00 | voidptr | :) |
| 11:46.14 | mbranca | aaah... some blood finally :) |
| 11:46.23 | voidptr | g |
| 11:46.35 | voidptr | recently 30k+ ppl got killed in minutes ;) |
| 11:47.41 | voidptr | bbl |
| 11:52.02 | Chaosdefiasco | yeyy |
| 11:52.36 | Chaosdefiasco | alchohol suxs |
| 11:52.44 | Chaosdefiasco | drink fluroic acid instea |
| 11:52.53 | Chaosdefiasco | its a shortcut to the same effect :p |
| 11:52.59 | sxpert | Chaosdefiasco: you mean, alcohol ? |
| 11:53.08 | Chaosdefiasco | yeah |
| 11:53.31 | Chaosdefiasco | sxpert:cute typing there! |
| 11:53.44 | sxpert | uh ? |
| 11:54.22 | Chaosdefiasco | sxpert: do not search for the sweet spot |
| 11:54.55 | Chaosdefiasco | :) |
| 11:56.36 | sxpert | Chaosdefiasco: lol |
| 11:58.10 | Chaosdefiasco | sxpert: is sxpert_work n u , the same |
| 11:58.31 | sxpert | Chaosdefiasco: well, _work is me when I'm at work (different box) |
| 11:58.41 | Chaosdefiasco | sxpert:r u a Pakistani |
| 11:58.47 | sxpert | Chaosdefiasco: as you can see, he's currently away :D |
| 11:58.53 | sxpert | Chaosdefiasco: why's that ? |
| 11:59.06 | RoyK | ~kill mbranca |
| 11:59.10 | | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged fluxelectron gun at mbranca |
| 11:59.25 | RoyK | ~slit mbranca |
| 11:59.51 | coppice | ~excommunicate RoyK |
| 12:00.06 | Chaosdefiasco | sxpert:cuz people there luv to leave themselves set away at there work machine for hours despite the fact they know they are never going to be back |
| 12:00.11 | RoyK | ~whaleslap coppice |
| 12:00.18 | | ACTION slaps coppice upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 12:00.20 | sxpert | Chaosdefiasco: no, I'm from .fr :D |
| 12:00.53 | Chaosdefiasco | sxpert_work:hmm, did u get that from Pakis, or did they get this from u |
| 12:00.58 | Chaosdefiasco | oops! |
| 12:01.33 | Chaosdefiasco | yeah |
| 12:01.47 | Chaosdefiasco | i asked an old man in .fr for direction to a hotel |
| 12:01.50 | sxpert | RoyK: I've been to the US enough to say the same... nobody speeks french |
| 12:01.52 | coppice | RoyK: That's because everyone who could speak English left |
| 12:01.53 | Chaosdefiasco | and he turned his face away |
| 12:02.18 | Chaosdefiasco | i went to the other side and asked again (uffcourse in english) |
| 12:02.30 | Chaosdefiasco | he said why dont u speak french |
| 12:02.34 | Chaosdefiasco | i said i dont know |
| 12:02.42 | Chaosdefiasco | he said why can u speak english |
| 12:02.46 | Chaosdefiasco | i said i know it |
| 12:02.54 | Chaosdefiasco | he said if u can learn english, why cant french |
| 12:02.57 | sxpert | RoyK: and they don't even know how to properly *elect* a president, their supreme court *nominates* him for them :DDD |
| 12:03.08 | Chaosdefiasco | i said cuz english is an international language |
| 12:03.17 | RoyK | sxpert: they == whom? |
| 12:03.18 | Chaosdefiasco | he then told me the directions in english |
| 12:03.20 | Chaosdefiasco | :p |
| 12:03.26 | sxpert | RoyK: US citizens |
| 12:03.36 | RoyK | :) |
| 12:03.39 | RoyK | ~frag US |
| 12:03.42 | | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at US |
| 12:04.18 | coppice | poor ]data[ |
| 12:04.18 | ]data[ | ouch |
| 12:04.23 | ]data[ | -15C? |
| 12:04.27 | sxpert | RoyK: hehehehe |
| 12:04.28 | RoyK | yeah |
| 12:04.30 | ]data[ | tis bad enuf at +4C fs |
| 12:04.46 | sxpert | ]data[: they saw -42 a week ago somewhere around munich |
| 12:04.59 | RoyK | -42 what? |
| 12:05.06 | sxpert | Celsius |
| 12:05.11 | RoyK | 'effective' temperature? |
| 12:05.15 | ]data[ | erm? |
| 12:05.18 | ]data[ | -42 = death |
| 12:05.27 | zoa | -42@munich ? |
| 12:05.29 | zoa | where ? |
| 12:05.35 | zoa | in some industrial freezer ? |
| 12:05.39 | RoyK | ]data[: they had -55 in nothern norway a few years ago |
| 12:05.41 | ]data[ | hehe |
| 12:05.46 | RoyK | _that_'s cold |
| 12:05.53 | ]data[ | where you all bloody live? mars? |
| 12:05.57 | ]data[ | :} |
| 12:06.04 | sxpert | zoa: no, |
| 12:06.10 | RoyK | but.... -42 in MГјnchen? |
| 12:06.16 | RoyK | url? |
| 12:06.26 | Chaosdefiasco | :D |
| 12:06.41 | coppice | When I was in Munich this time last year the cold made my nose bleed. Personally, I like warmer climates |
| 12:07.06 | Chaosdefiasco | me too |
| 12:07.10 | RoyK | coppice: what's that? -10? |
| 12:07.15 | Chaosdefiasco | my urine leaks in cold climates |
| 12:07.19 | Chaosdefiasco | automatically :p |
| 12:07.27 | RoyK | Chaosdefiasco: wanna talk about it? |
| 12:07.34 | Chaosdefiasco | yeah |
| 12:07.47 | coppice | RoyK: yeah, something like that. About 15 degrees lower than it every gets at home |
| 12:08.04 | RoyK | coppice: and 'home' is... |
| 12:08.13 | coppice | HK |
| 12:08.31 | ]data[ | ;-) |
| 12:08.49 | ]data[ | might of been 7 :p |
| 12:09.00 | RoyK | ~hk |
| 12:09.02 | | hk is probably the abbreviation of Hong Kong Special Administration Region of China |
| 12:09.02 | ]data[ | hehe |
| 12:09.45 | ]data[ | -6 = 20F |
| 12:09.46 | RoyK | coppice: what's the official language in HK now? Mandarin or English? |
| 12:09.48 | sxpert | here (in french) http://fr.news.yahoo.com/031224/202/3kfnx.html |
| 12:09.50 | Chaosdefiasco | lol |
| 12:10.10 | RoyK | -18C == 0F == what they tell will be the temperature outside tonight |
| 12:10.14 | RoyK | ...or colder :( |
| 12:10.18 | sxpert | RoyK: both, probably |
| 12:10.32 | ]data[ | -16 = 6F |
| 12:10.40 | sxpert | RoyK: how did that moron farenheight came up with his scale ? |
| 12:10.48 | ]data[ | heh |
| 12:12.07 | ]data[ | 255 Degrees Kelvin |
| 12:12.21 | sxpert | RoyK: see here (in french) http://fr.news.yahoo.com/031224/202/3kfnx.html |
| 12:12.47 | Chaosdefiasco | why dont they call kelvin as absolute |
| 12:12.50 | Chaosdefiasco | :p |
| 12:13.07 | Chaosdefiasco | celsius absolute too and so is that moreon Mr Farhenit |
| 12:14.28 | cdegroot | IIRC, Fahrenheit used 0 for a low temperature outside his house, and 100 for a possible max. |
| 12:14.31 | sxpert | Chaosdefiasco: problem is, what did farenheight use to create his scale ? 0 == freezing of whisky and 144 the boiling of it ? (144 = 12*12, as the brits seem keen on using that number for mesurements) |
| 12:14.42 | Chaosdefiasco | when its ass chillin outside its zero Cf i.e after my nick |
| 12:14.59 | Chaosdefiasco | negative stuff is too complex, so my Cf scale aint gonna be that |
| 12:16.09 | sxpert | Chaosdefiasco: then use Kelvin, or Rankin :D |
| 12:17.42 | coppice | RoyK: English in one of the official languages. Mandarin is not the other |
| 12:17.52 | RoyK | oh |
| 12:17.55 | RoyK | what is it then? |
| 12:18.03 | coppice | Cantonese |
| 12:18.08 | RoyK | ah |
| 12:18.12 | sxpert | ah, he beat me to it :D |
| 12:19.37 | coppice | My daughter attends the only Mandarin school in HK, so it still has a somewhat limited takeup here :-) |
| 12:20.03 | sxpert | coppice: ah, you're in HK :D |
| 12:20.21 | RoyK | coppice: that's the second largest language in .cn? |
| 12:21.15 | ]data[ | what i want to know is, why on earth did they name a fruit after a language |
| 12:21.40 | coppice | RoyK: Probably Cantonese. |
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| 12:22.02 | ]data[ | ooher |
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| 12:22.15 | coppice | Why did they name a telephone network after a fruit? |
| 12:22.29 | ]data[ | a telephone network? |
| 12:22.36 | coppice | Orange |
| 12:22.39 | ]data[ | ah! |
| 12:22.40 | ]data[ | ;P |
| 12:22.52 | ]data[ | "caus they're idiots" |
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| 12:23.28 | john____ | hello |
| 12:23.34 | RoyK | hi |
| 12:23.39 | coppice | Well in these parts Mandarin is usually called PuTongHua these days, and I don't know of a fruit called that. |
| 12:23.40 | john____ | is there some people from paris here ? (topic ....) |
| 12:23.46 | RoyK | Guten Tag! |
| 12:24.31 | coppice | I think the topic should be plastered in paris :-) |
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| 12:25.08 | guy_lagache | hi everybody |
| 12:25.30 | john____ | hello guy_lagache |
| 12:25.32 | guy_lagache | lookin' for Obelisk - can anyone help? |
| 12:25.40 | john____ | lol |
| 12:25.43 | guy_lagache | ;) |
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| 12:26.11 | john____ | guy_lagache: you ve made a mistake, your are not on the good irc channel |
| 12:26.13 | diana | ehlo #asterisk |
| 12:26.37 | many | 250 nice to meet you |
| 12:26.41 | l-fy | :) |
| 12:27.01 | ]data[ | The Pharaoh's Obelisk ? |
| 12:27.27 | coppice | No Asterisk's Obelisk. |
| 12:27.31 | ]data[ | ah k |
| 12:27.57 | coppice | The one with low Harmonix distortion |
| 12:28.08 | ]data[ | today is a blur for some reason |
| 12:28.13 | ]data[ | ah yes! |
| 12:28.14 | ]data[ | TRIP! |
| 12:28.38 | voidptr | people |
| 12:28.40 | RoyK | l-fy: EHLO |
| 12:28.44 | l-fy | hi RoyK |
| 12:28.53 | ]data[ | I was going to spend the day looking at and deciding it's a bloated pile of steaming junk |
| 12:29.36 | l-fy | ]data[ > what date is there? |
| 12:29.47 | ]data[ | eh? |
| 12:29.51 | ]data[ | date is where? |
| 12:29.54 | ]data[ | Wed Dec 31 12:34:41 GMT 2003 |
| 12:29.57 | ]data[ | :o ? |
| 12:30.16 | l-fy | k |
| 12:30.25 | ]data[ | <- confused |
| 12:31.11 | coppice | Wed Dec 31 20:30:19 CST 2003 |
| 12:31.25 | coppice | which means it isn't yet new year, anywhere! |
| 12:31.29 | ]data[ | woo |
| 12:31.34 | ]data[ | not even .au ? |
| 12:31.49 | coppice | .jp is ahead of .au |
| 12:32.00 | ]data[ | it is? heh |
| 12:32.08 | voidptr | pom pom |
| 12:32.12 | coppice | ah, no. I think I got that wrong |
| 12:32.19 | ]data[ | i was gonna say :) |
| 12:32.27 | ]data[ | wait |
| 12:32.30 | ]data[ | it's GMT+12 |
| 12:32.35 | ]data[ | in Wellington, New Zealand |
| 12:32.39 | ]data[ | so its 2004 there! |
| 12:32.54 | john____ | my iaxcomm communication is cutted after 1 minute. Does anyone have the same problem ? |
| 12:32.57 | voidptr | those basterds! |
| 12:33.16 | *** part/#asterisk guy_lagache (~tester@195.68.40.110) |
| 12:33.29 | ]data[ | ooh |
| 12:33.30 | ]data[ | 12:37 <]data[> countusers *.nz |
| 12:33.30 | ]data[ | 12:37 <O> 22 users match *.nz |
| 12:33.39 | ]data[ | 22 users from .nz on me other network :) |
| 12:34.27 | coppice | Around here its still another month until new year |
| 12:35.06 | voidptr | :) |
| 12:35.06 | ]data[ | if i start broadcasting now tho, i'd have to do it every hour for a long time :/ |
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| 12:35.52 | voidptr | coppice : stupid question... but do you guys have the same sunday - saturday 7 day week? :S |
| 12:36.01 | l-fy | hi voidptr |
| 12:36.05 | voidptr | hey l-fy :) |
| 12:36.28 | ]data[ | jebus |
| 12:36.33 | coppice | voidptr: yeah. we even have toilet seats and electrocity :-) |
| 12:36.36 | ]data[ | tell its christmas still |
| 12:36.37 | ]data[ | 12:41 <]data[> countusers |
| 12:36.37 | ]data[ | 12:41 <O> 173698 users match * |
| 12:36.46 | ]data[ | 173,698 users online at 12:41 |
| 12:37.23 | voidptr | coppice : i really don't understand how things get so messed up around the world... concerning dates.. i mean there is nothing that really binds 7 days in nature right? |
| 12:37.34 | voidptr | and still those 7 days seem to be an international standard |
| 12:37.48 | coppice | I think the 7 day thing comes from the bible |
| 12:37.55 | voidptr | yeh but.. |
| 12:37.59 | ]data[ | and on the 7th day, he took a rest |
| 12:38.13 | voidptr | i take 6 days of rest and 1 day of work :P |
| 12:38.14 | ]data[ | caus he was lazy and didnt work 24/7 like us |
| 12:38.17 | ]data[ | oi! |
| 12:38.22 | john____ | I am looking for a .dsw or .dsp file (visual c++ project) for iaxcomm. Where can i download it ? |
| 12:38.37 | john____ | or how can i create my self in order to compile iaxcomm under windows ? |
| 12:38.38 | ]data[ | john____: iaxcomm isnt VC i dont think |
| 12:38.46 | coppice | and on the seventh day he said "bugger this universe making for a lark. I'm knackered" |
| 12:38.49 | ]data[ | john____: cygwin & mingw is your friend |
| 12:39.10 | voidptr | coppice : but considering, asia has always had its own stuff |
| 12:39.35 | coppice | The week is a modern introduction in Asia, but everywhere uses it now. |
| 12:39.39 | voidptr | like, gods, religions... |
| 12:39.41 | voidptr | ah k |
| 12:40.39 | voidptr | days? ;) |
| 12:41.15 | coppice | The Chinese use two namingd for the days. One means literally star date 1 to star date 6 plus star date sun for Sunday. The other means Lord's day 1 - 6 and Lord's day sun for Sunday |
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| 12:41.34 | ]data[ | voidptr: hehe thats what i meant |
| 12:41.48 | ]data[ | coppice: we need startrek style timestamps |
| 12:41.58 | john____ | ]data[: yes, but the makefiles doesn t work under cygwin |
| 12:41.59 | john____ | :( |
| 12:42.42 | coppice | john: try mingw. I think that one works OK |
| 12:42.50 | john____ | is there any tutorial somewhere which explains how to use lib gsm and lib iax2 ? |
| 12:42.59 | coppice | I think I cracked IAX2 for them |
| 12:43.04 | john____ | thanks ]data[ and coppice |
| 12:43.13 | ]data[ | coppice: ooh? :) |
| 12:43.22 | jcan | morning all, a quickie, where can i find a list of things that can be put in the database to enable things like DND and call forward?? |
| 12:44.21 | ]data[ | ah wait, CVS is outta sync did i read |
| 12:45.40 | ]data[ | heh not bad, 2 errors from cvs on build |
| 12:45.53 | dheckaman_ | lol |
| 12:46.09 | ]data[ | on iax1 as well :) |
| 12:47.22 | coppice | ]data[ after my fixes at the weekend I was using iaxcomm with IAX2 without problems. I still wouldn't consider it well tested or polished, but its certainly way ahead of where it was last week! :-) |
| 12:48.07 | ]data[ | * iaxclient1.lib - 0 error(s), 0 warning(s) |
| 12:48.24 | ]data[ | heh think he forgot to apply a patch :) |
| 12:48.38 | ]data[ | handle_text_event was using the old format event struct |
| 12:48.51 | ]data[ | + strncpy(ev.ev.text.message, e->event.text.text, IAXC_EVENT_BUFSIZ); |
| 12:48.58 | ]data[ | - strncpy(ev.ev.text.message, e->data, IAXC_EVENT_BUFSIZ); |
| 12:49.14 | coppice | Oh no. wasim has disappeared from the face of the Earth. www.farfon.com refuses my advances. |
| 12:50.38 | voidptr | indeed :( |
| 12:50.48 | ]data[ | :{ |
| 12:51.24 | coppice | ]data[ what is you patch about? That seems to break things when I apply it. |
| 12:51.44 | ]data[ | i just downloaded the dev tarball |
| 12:51.44 | *** join/#asterisk Habban (~michal@otho.nask.waw.pl) |
| 12:51.51 | ]data[ | and compiled it in VC6 |
| 12:51.58 | ]data[ | and it complained e->data doesnt exist |
| 12:52.06 | Habban | uhh |
| 12:52.10 | dheckaman_ | ~seen wasim |
| 12:52.15 | | wasim is currently on #asterisk |
| 12:52.28 | ]data[ | 12:57 -!- idle : 1 days 20 hours 27 mins 10 secs [signon: Thu Dec 25 17:33:57 2003] |
| 12:52.38 | Habban | i can see old year`s runnin away |
| 12:52.41 | dheckaman_ | LOL |
| 12:54.17 | coppice | wasim: www.farfon.com is no more. it has ceased to be. it has shrugged off its mortal coil and gone to meet its maker. |
| 12:54.44 | voidptr | coppice : i think the layer4 cache/proxy shit is at it again |
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| 12:55.36 | ]data[ | woo |
| 12:55.49 | ]data[ | if i add: IAXC_IAX2 to my definitions, i get 18 errors now :o |
| 12:56.13 | ]data[ | ahhh |
| 12:56.18 | ]data[ | thats why coppice gets errors |
| 12:56.25 | ]data[ | e->event.text = IAX1 style |
| 12:56.30 | ]data[ | e->data = IAX2 style :p |
| 12:56.35 | coppice | ]data[ that's more like it. The .text.text thing is IAX not IAX2 |
| 12:56.39 | ]data[ | hehe |
| 12:56.49 | ]data[ | what definitions do i need to enable IAX2? |
| 12:56.57 | ]data[ | something else besides 'IAXC_IAX2' ? |
| 12:57.11 | coppice | I think that is it |
| 12:57.51 | zoa | coppice: its something blablbal.pl |
| 12:58.13 | zoa | .pk i mean |
| 12:58.50 | coppice | zoa: its now several things, one of which is www.farfon.com |
| 12:59.01 | l-fy | hey zoa |
| 13:00.39 | ]data[ | weeeeeeeee, 56 errors now :D |
| 13:02.36 | dheckaman_ | coppice: its an ex-website! |
| 13:02.41 | dheckaman_ | it is resting in peace! |
| 13:03.02 | coppice | or its owned is peaced off |
| 13:03.04 | dheckaman_ | if it wasnt nailed up, it would be pushing up the roses! |
| 13:03.18 | coppice | that should be daises |
| 13:03.38 | coppice | s/daises/daisies |
| 13:04.04 | ]data[ | omg |
| 13:04.13 | ]data[ | iaxclient1.lib - 0 error(s), 0 warning(s) |
| 13:04.13 | ]data[ | 0 errors!? |
| 13:04.37 | coppice | what did you do? |
| 13:04.50 | ]data[ | lemme try it a sec :) |
| 13:05.46 | ]data[ | haha |
| 13:06.06 | ]data[ | compiles != working sadly ;{ |
| 13:06.34 | coppice | well patches to make it compile are a step forward |
| 13:08.45 | *** join/#asterisk Chilled (Chacha@202.133.66.203) |
| 13:08.50 | Chilled | Hi |
| 13:09.19 | RoyK | chill! |
| 13:10.00 | macTijn | woohoo :) |
| 13:10.17 | macTijn | :) |
| 13:10.40 | macTijn | anyone have a good zaptel.conf for .nl pri ? |
| 13:11.02 | Chilled | i 'v two pri lines and a Quad port PRI card from zaptel when i plugged 1 PRI line with following setting of zaptel.conf it works fine now i want to plug 2nd line in span2 what should be setting for that |
| 13:11.04 | coppice | nl = CTR4 = NET5 = EuroISDN |
| 13:11.25 | macTijn | coppice: I know that :) |
| 13:11.38 | macTijn | just don't know euroisdn specs from the head |
| 13:11.40 | coppice | so what do you need? |
| 13:11.56 | macTijn | generally a good zaptel.conf :) |
| 13:11.59 | Chilled | how to configure span 2 channels |
| 13:12.57 | coppice | Something like: |
| 13:12.58 | coppice | span=1,1,0,cas,hdb3,crc4 |
| 13:13.00 | coppice | span=2,1,0,cas,hdb3,crc4 |
| 13:13.01 | coppice | bchan=1-15 |
| 13:13.03 | coppice | dchan=16 |
| 13:13.04 | coppice | bchan=17-31 |
| 13:13.06 | coppice | bchan=32-46 |
| 13:13.07 | coppice | dchan=47 |
| 13:13.09 | coppice | bchan=48-62 |
| 13:13.55 | Chilled | span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4 |
| 13:13.55 | Chilled | bchan=1-8 |
| 13:13.55 | Chilled | dchan=16 |
| 13:13.55 | Chilled | loadzone=uk |
| 13:13.55 | Chilled | span=2,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4 |
| 13:13.56 | Chilled | bchan=17-24 |
| 13:13.58 | Chilled | dchan=32 |
| 13:14.00 | Chilled | loadzone=uk |
| 13:14.19 | Chilled | is this correct this setting works but i m seeing this msgs |
| 13:14.22 | macTijn | coppice: typically, I'm looking at that exact config on google :) |
| 13:15.14 | macTijn | every t1/E1 port is a span ? |
| 13:15.20 | zoa | yes |
| 13:15.22 | Chilled | yeah i know |
| 13:15.23 | macTijn | ok |
| 13:15.27 | zoa | mactijn: ik heb er ene voor belgie |
| 13:15.32 | zoa | tzal wsl het zelfde zijn |
| 13:15.43 | macTijn | zoa: uhuh |
| 13:16.09 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.11 | Chilled | - B-channel 2 successfully restarted on span 1 |
| 13:16.12 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.12 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.12 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.12 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.12 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.14 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.16 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.18 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.20 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.22 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.24 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.26 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.28 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.30 | Chilled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.56 | macTijn | zoa: can you paste it on http://home.hackerheaven.org/pastebot/ ? |
| 13:17.04 | macTijn | and pass me the url ? |
| 13:17.09 | coppice | Chilled: that is what you asked for. Why did you try putting a dchan on channel 32? |
| 13:18.23 | Chilled | hmmmmmmm is this making prob i dont think so |
| 13:18.24 | Chilled | ?? |
| 13:18.57 | coppice | Chilled: What are you actually trying to acheieve? |
| 13:19.27 | Chilled | justo configure my 16 b channels and 2 d channels |
| 13:21.35 | coppice | The d channels usually need to be on channel 16 of each E1. That means they should be on 16 and 47 in the zaptel sequence. If you want just 8 bchannels on each E1, you need something like: |
| 13:21.36 | coppice | bchan=1-8 |
| 13:21.38 | coppice | dchan=16 |
| 13:21.40 | coppice | bchan=32-39 |
| 13:21.41 | coppice | dchan=47 |
| 13:23.02 | Chilled | ok |
| 13:23.06 | Chilled | i tried that |
| 13:23.10 | Chilled | exact same |
| 13:23.54 | Chilled | lemme check again |
| 13:24.12 | coppice | That would certainly *not* give exactly the same result |
| 13:29.29 | Al | Grrrr... TelAppliant have shipped us two T100P cards when we asked for E100P cards. |
| 13:29.41 | macTijn | nice :/ |
| 13:29.43 | geertn | I hate those grandstream phones... keep crashing.. |
| 13:31.47 | dheckaman_ | that, my friend, is a dead website! |
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| 13:40.59 | zoa | what variable contains the extension number in an agi script |
| 13:40.59 | Maxximus | hi |
| 13:41.13 | zoa | if you call the agi script from a call file ? |
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| 13:41.58 | coppice | geertn: well, if people insist on driving them above the speed limit, what do you expect? :-) |
| 13:42.10 | Maxximus | zoa: extension |
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| 13:42.56 | Maxximus | need some help with an e100p... |
| 13:43.24 | coppice | Maxximus: is is that heavy, then? :-) |
| 13:43.52 | Maxximus | hehe... at my stomache yes... |
| 13:44.55 | Maxximus | card seems to run ok, got green light, channels are there, but no show in asterisk |
| 13:46.49 | coppice | Maxximus; what's in your zaptel.conf? |
| 13:47.51 | *** join/#asterisk jimmy1 (~jimmy@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 13:47.53 | Maxximus | span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4 |
| 13:49.08 | geertn | coppice: maybe I'm pressing the numbers too fast, indeed. |
| 13:49.51 | Maxximus | zttool says card is ok, /proc/zaptel tells me the same |
| 13:49.52 | coppice | Maxximus: and? do you realise you need more than that? |
| 13:50.05 | Maxximus | bchan=1-15 |
| 13:50.10 | Maxximus | dchan=16 |
| 13:50.22 | Maxximus | bchan=17-31 |
| 13:51.40 | jimmy1 | anyone in the new orleans baton rouge area |
| 13:51.55 | coppice | Maxximus: Ah, that is good. So /proc/zaptel/1 should show all the channels as being configured as Bs or Ds, right? |
| 13:52.04 | mizzie__ | jimmy1: i am |
| 13:52.28 | Habban | im quite new to linux - do i have to have configured sendmail to send email-voicemail notifications? |
| 13:52.36 | jimmy1 | we are looking into dumping callmanager and going with asterisk just trying to find someone using it |
| 13:52.39 | dheckaman_ | Habban: good luck |
| 13:52.40 | dheckaman_ | :) |
| 13:52.51 | jimmy1 | that is local |
| 13:53.04 | dheckaman_ | Proper configuration of sendmail involves lots of time, a thick manual, and the sacrifice of a live chicken. |
| 13:53.06 | Maxximus | coppice: It's running on Fedora and AMD (with i686 kernel). Yes, 1 WCT1/0/1 ClearChannel etc. |
| 13:53.08 | Habban | hmm? |
| 13:53.35 | Maxximus | dchannel: 16 WCT1/0/16 HDLCFCS |
| 13:54.02 | jimmy1 | mizzie: are you running asterisk in productions |
| 13:54.21 | Maxximus | I have an other running fine, and /proc/zaptel is similar |
| 13:54.24 | Habban | well? any suggestions? |
| 13:54.36 | dheckaman_ | nope, I never got mine to work :) |
| 13:54.43 | Habban | ah :) |
| 13:54.52 | dheckaman_ | aka I am too lazy to read up on it |
| 13:54.54 | dheckaman_ | :) |
| 13:55.16 | Habban | well |
| 13:56.16 | Habban | dont be to cruel to yourslef - who cares for sendmail when new year comes? :D |
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| 13:56.31 | Habban | yourself even |
| 13:56.31 | darthvader | oiem |
| 13:56.41 | dheckaman_ | lol |
| 13:57.46 | Habban | i understand that`s the only way. |
| 13:58.02 | Habban | than it shall wait for a new year |
| 13:58.08 | *** join/#asterisk Tili (~Tili@202.133.65.151) |
| 13:58.16 | Habban | cheers all |
| 13:58.43 | coppice | Habban: Only 2 more hours and I'll have a brand new year I can sell you. :-) |
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| 13:59.17 | Habban | coppice: 10 hours more and i`ll have mine for free :) |
| 13:59.28 | Tili | hello wasim |
| 13:59.37 | UnixDawg | exten => 1,1,Playback,sales-hold |
| 13:59.37 | UnixDawg | exten => 1,2,SetMusicOnHold,default |
| 13:59.37 | UnixDawg | exten => 1,3,SetCallerID, |
| 13:59.37 | UnixDawg | exten => 1,4,SetCIDName,Sales |
| 13:59.37 | UnixDawg | exten => 1,5,Goto,callqueue||1 how can i better script this to choose a call queue I have diff dist queue |
| 13:59.57 | coppice | Habban: most stuff comes down in price eventually, but I can put you ahead of the pack |
| 14:00.45 | Habban | u mean u`ll put me up? ;) |
| 14:01.10 | Habban | for a new years eve? :D |
| 14:02.51 | jimmyz | has anyone here bought a server from nufone.com? |
| 14:03.21 | darthvader | I've reseted my ata 186 by the code 322873738 |
| 14:03.33 | Habban | hey one more question |
| 14:03.36 | darthvader | I ve ever configured the ip, gateway and netmask |
| 14:03.40 | darthvader | and I cant access it via ethernet =/ |
| 14:03.45 | darthvader | any idea |
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| 14:04.42 | coppice | Maxximus: It sounds like you zaptel is OK. Do you have an error in your chan_zap config? |
| 14:05.01 | Habban | is there a way to make 7960 with Cisco Call Manager soft to talk to *? or do i need to download sip software to 7960 first? |
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| 14:10.37 | fvenegas | holaaaaaaaaaa |
| 14:12.14 | Maxximus | coppice: you mean zapata.conf? |
| 14:13.21 | joesmith | habban: use chan_skinny |
| 14:13.52 | jimmyz | anyone in the new orleans area running asterisk in a production environment |
| 14:16.42 | coppice | Maxximus: yeah |
| 14:17.40 | joesmith | jimmyz: yep |
| 14:17.48 | Maxximus | switchtype=euroisdn signalling=pri_cpe channel =>1-15,17-31 |
| 14:17.48 | joesmith | ohh wait not in new orlenas |
| 14:18.35 | jimmyz | joesmith: where are you |
| 14:18.41 | anthm | speaking of new orleans , how did that guy miss that extra point ? |
| 14:18.41 | joesmith | Ohio |
| 14:18.48 | jimmyz | lol |
| 14:19.11 | jimmyz | joesmith: everything been stable running it |
| 14:19.26 | jimmyz | we are looking and dumping callmanager and going with asterisk |
| 14:19.34 | coppice | Maxximus: sounds like it should work then :-) |
| 14:19.37 | voidptr | wow. |
| 14:19.37 | jimmyz | lease is up on callmanager |
| 14:20.12 | voidptr | this is some sad news on old year... a colleague of me has cancer and has 2 months to live... :S |
| 14:21.48 | Maxximus | coppice: thought so too...:-( |
| 14:23.07 | coppice | A famous singer here died of womb cancer yesterday at 40. The newspapers and TV have an easy time filling space right now |
| 14:23.52 | Maxximus | thanks anyway... have to go, will solve it next yar... enjoy! |
| 14:24.42 | Habban | joesmith: so skinny is a name of a protocol to communicate with *... |
| 14:24.54 | voidptr | what do you say to someone who has that... |
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| 14:28.35 | izo | yo mr sobol |
| 14:28.42 | voidptr | hey sobol |
| 14:28.44 | zoa | its not extension maxximus |
| 14:28.51 | sobol | hi |
| 14:28.51 | zoa | any agi experts in here ? |
| 14:29.01 | zoa | btw: can't i pass 2 arguments to an agi script ?? |
| 14:29.37 | anthm | zoa pack them into 1 with : and split in the agi |
| 14:30.16 | anthm | agi only is coded to accept 1 arg |
| 14:30.25 | zoa | ic |
| 14:30.33 | zoa | how do i split em ? |
| 14:30.41 | zoa | got some sample code ? |
| 14:30.45 | zoa | i have like 15 minutes left :) |
| 14:30.56 | anthm | here is a good way |
| 14:30.58 | fvenegas | hi SOA |
| 14:30.58 | anthm | @ARGV=split(":",shift); |
| 14:31.12 | anthm | then it will work as normal |
| 14:32.02 | zoa | k |
| 14:32.07 | zoa | thnx !!! |
| 14:32.18 | anthm | AGI,myagi.agi,arg1:arg2:arg3 |
| 14:33.00 | anthm | or AGI(myagi.agi,arg1:arg2:arg3) depending on syntax pref |
| 14:33.28 | anthm | actually the 1st one i said was wrong sorry |
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| 14:38.10 | zoa | -- AGI Script Executing Application: (Monitor(wav|zoa)) Options: () |
| 14:38.15 | zoa | what is wrong with this ? |
| 14:38.25 | zoa | its not creating a file : |
| 14:38.26 | zoa | :( |
| 14:39.41 | anthm | how you call it ? |
| 14:39.58 | macTijn | hm |
| 14:40.14 | anthm | $AGI->exec("Monitor","wav|$file"); ? |
| 14:43.25 | zoa | k, that works better :) |
| 14:43.37 | discordia | how can i use the variable $VAR1 in my AGI script: s,2,AGI,simple-agi($VAR1) ?? |
| 14:46.33 | anthm | s,2,AGI,simple-agi(${VAR1}) you mean ? |
| 14:46.41 | anthm | $var1 = shift; |
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| 14:46.59 | discordia | yes this way |
| 14:47.19 | discordia | but = shift ?!? |
| 14:47.28 | discordia | what do you mean with this ? |
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| 14:50.22 | killerbee | humm... |
| 14:50.27 | killerbee | anyone awake? |
| 14:51.49 | anthm | discordia in the perl script shift takes the arg into a var for you |
| 14:52.09 | Tili | C gurus. How can i play a beep on 2 channels are bridged. This is to tell users that time is up. |
| 14:52.12 | kram | anybody know powerkill's e-mail? |
| 14:52.12 | anthm | if you prefer use $var1 = $ARGV[0] |
| 14:52.49 | discordia | ah ok anthm :) my fault. im using php as agi language |
| 14:53.44 | discordia | :) |
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| 14:56.08 | joesmith | does anyone know how to make asterisk log to 2 mysql dbs? |
| 14:56.13 | joesmith | cdr logs that is |
| 14:57.06 | joesmith | kram: is digium open today, I have an order to place |
| 14:57.11 | dnc | log to one and replicate it ;) |
| 14:57.22 | many | joesmith: use cdr_mysql.so? |
| 14:57.31 | joesmith | many: twice? |
| 14:57.38 | many | huh? |
| 14:57.51 | joesmith | i need to log to 2 mysql dbs, I already have the records going to one |
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| 14:59.42 | many | joesmith: _oh_ |
| 14:59.59 | many | i need coffee. |
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| 15:04.49 | l-fy | joesmith > i think i can modify the cdr_mysql to do that |
| 15:04.50 | fvenegas | algun |
| 15:04.54 | fvenegas | ke hable espaсol? |
| 15:04.54 | l-fy | but what you need that for? |
| 15:05.04 | joesmith | I was thinking of makeing 2 cdr_mysqls |
| 15:05.07 | joesmith | and loading them both |
| 15:05.13 | l-fy | fvenegas > use your brain to learn some english |
| 15:05.22 | joesmith | I am trying not to modify source |
| 15:05.30 | l-fy | well, that kind of crazy |
| 15:05.31 | l-fy | why? |
| 15:05.37 | fvenegas | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.37 | fvenegas | Babel Fish Translation Help |
| 15:05.37 | fvenegas | In English: |
| 15:05.40 | l-fy | again why do you need this? |
| 15:05.43 | fvenegas | as I listen to the voicemail messages |
| 15:05.44 | fvenegas | ??? |
| 15:06.22 | RoyK | ~x en es Please try to learn some english. we don't speak spanish |
| 15:06.39 | fvenegas | ok |
| 15:06.53 | fvenegas | no problem |
| 15:06.59 | fvenegas | as I listen to the voicemail messages? |
| 15:07.05 | RoyK | ~x en es but, of course, you may use the bot to translate :D |
| 15:07.14 | fvenegas | ok |
| 15:07.17 | fvenegas | thanks |
| 15:07.24 | RoyK | np |
| 15:08.42 | fvenegas | where I form the option to be able to listen to the messages that left in the voicemail??????? |
| 15:08.55 | l-fy | fvenegas > use voicemailmain |
| 15:09.39 | fvenegas | ok |
| 15:13.16 | kram | joe: should be open |
| 15:16.05 | coppice | ~x es en Intente por favor aprender un cierto inglГ©s. no hablamos espaГ±ol |
| 15:16.48 | coppice | ~x en jp Please try to learn some english. we don't speak Japanglish |
| 15:17.13 | dheckaman | LOL |
| 15:17.16 | voidptr | dude |
| 15:17.25 | voidptr | don't fsck up my irc client :P |
| 15:18.05 | voidptr | engrish |
| 15:19.23 | joesmith | can anyone kick jbot? |
| 15:19.56 | voidptr | you really don't understand it eh? :P |
| 15:20.13 | coppice | ~x zh en е¦‚жћњйЂ™еЂ‹жњ‰ж—Ґж–‡жјўе— |
| 15:21.13 | voidptr | ~x nl jp gelukkig nieuw jaar en de beste wensen |
| 15:21.18 | l-fy | can i kick JerJer head ? |
| 15:21.35 | coppice | jbot seems to translate into Japanese, and feed things back incorrectly. Almost, but not quite smart :-) |
| 15:21.37 | | coppice: You are moron #2 |
| 15:21.53 | voidptr | heh |
| 15:22.32 | coppice | Now that was a good response :-) |
| 15:23.05 | jimmyz | is there a fxo pci card that is more than one port? |
| 15:23.56 | RoyK | http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/xtreme/shows/lg_media.html <-- cool linux desktop |
| 15:25.07 | coppice | ~x en zh Does this have Japanese Kanji? |
| 15:25.16 | voidptr | lol |
| 15:25.24 | coppice | Perfect! |
| 15:25.52 | david-wk | RoyK: Looking Glass was pretty flakey last I looked at it |
| 15:26.36 | coppice | ~x zh en 这有日文汉е—еђ— |
| 15:26.54 | voidptr | you see |
| 15:27.01 | coppice | Ah! jbot only understands simplified Chinese |
| 15:27.10 | voidptr | these chars really fsck with my term |
| 15:27.57 | *** join/#asterisk tim27 (tim27@229-29.dr.cgocable.ca) |
| 15:28.01 | coppice | They are Unicode. Its supposed to be the global standard :-) |
| 15:28.06 | tim27 | hello everyone |
| 15:28.15 | voidptr | not on my linux :) |
| 15:28.16 | tim27 | do the 7910 is a good phone ??? |
| 15:28.22 | voidptr | i scrolled up and back |
| 15:28.27 | voidptr | now its more messed up |
| 15:28.29 | coppice | My Linux is happy with it |
| 15:29.04 | voidptr | well console and screen are not the best for unicode i guess |
| 15:29.23 | coppice | KanjiTerm? |
| 15:29.29 | voidptr | "those invaders will be slaughtered!" |
| 15:29.48 | voidptr | "they will be burned in their tanks!" |
| 15:30.31 | tim27 | someone offer me a 7905 and a 7910, (i think the 7910 is a older model), any have a idea how mush less the 7910 worth compare to the 7905, and if the 7910 is a reliable phone ... |
| 15:30.35 | coppice | ~x en jp they will be burned in their tanks! |
| 15:30.54 | jimmyz | is there a fxo pci card that is more than one port? |
| 15:31.05 | voidptr | coppice : are you on the other side of the new year line now? |
| 15:31.19 | coppice | I can't read that. Use Kanji so it reads like Chinese, stupid jbot |
| 15:31.24 | dant | jimmyz, sorta |
| 15:31.32 | coppice | 30 mins to go! |
| 15:31.51 | coppice | GMT + 8 => CST |
| 15:32.43 | dant | :) |
| 15:33.21 | jimmyz | i'm really looking for 4 port fxo...will have have to go with a channel bank? |
| 15:33.48 | coppice | sit back. relax. a 4 port fxo will be along soon :-) |
| 15:34.22 | dant | jimmyz, TDM400 will have FXO modules early 2004 afaik |
| 15:34.27 | blll | cisco 2600 w/ NM-2V, two dual port fxo VICs |
| 15:34.32 | blll | mgcp back to asterisk |
| 15:34.33 | jimmyz | lol i wish or lease is up on callmanager and trying to see if we can switch to asterisk |
| 15:35.05 | jimmyz | i have 4 port fxo in my 3600 router can i use them |
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| 15:39.04 | skeeziks | Hello all, I have a problem. I have an X101P connected to an analog line from our PBX (Panasonic KX-TD 1232). Whenver I call its extension, it picks up, but it never detects that I've hung up and keeps the line open. I've tried kewlstart and loopstart on the X101P and neither works, and I get 'invalid argument' from zttool when I try groundstart. Any suggesstions? |
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| 15:43.54 | Asterisky | Happy new year 2004!!!!!! |
| 15:44.52 | tim27 | skeeziks: i read that you phone line most support ... dont remember |
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| 15:46.58 | neonet200 | i can't seem to load MeetMe application>>>i believe there might be something I am missing at the modules.conf |
| 15:47.11 | neonet200 | does anybody can help me? |
| 15:47.15 | tim27 | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2003-December/029394.html |
| 15:47.21 | tim27 | check this skeeziks |
| 15:48.36 | skeeziks | tim27: Thanks, I'll see if it helps |
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| 15:50.30 | neonet200 | i can't seem to load MeetMe application>>>i believe there might be something I am missing at the modules.conf |
| 15:52.22 | zigman | anyone in here allready in 2004 ? |
| 15:53.47 | coppice | ask that again in 7 mins, and I can say yes! |
| 15:54.22 | mortck | coppice, where are you? |
| 15:54.47 | coppice | Hiding somewhere in the heart of Asia :-) |
| 15:54.51 | mortck | uhh |
| 15:55.34 | jimmyz | anyone recording all phone calls to wav files with asterisk |
| 15:57.23 | dant | neonet200, you have a zap card? |
| 16:00.51 | coppice | A HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE! Its 2004 in China! |
| 16:01.18 | many | oh. thats why the floor shakes. |
| 16:01.20 | voidptr | :) |
| 16:01.33 | voidptr | happy new year coppice ;) |
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| 16:06.18 | neonet200 | no i don't have a zap card |
| 16:06.31 | dant | neonet200, then have you compile ztdummy? |
| 16:06.40 | l-fy | hey Powerkill |
| 16:06.43 | Flatcat | hey coppice - happy new year... |
| 16:06.47 | Powerkill | hi l-fy |
| 16:06.50 | l-fy | Powerkill > kram have look for you |
| 16:06.51 | neonet200 | i did make zaptel |
| 16:06.52 | l-fy | :) |
| 16:06.57 | Flatcat | i thought it was +13 days n china but there you go |
| 16:07.18 | Powerkill | yes i got mad with my new router i though i was connected but i wasn't |
| 16:07.26 | neonet200 | will that compile ztdummy as well |
| 16:07.27 | Powerkill | he msg me his number thanks :) |
| 16:07.33 | dant | bkw_, check out the list |
| 16:07.41 | l-fy | who want out ztwatch application? |
| 16:07.50 | dant | neonet200, only if you followed the instructions on modifying the Makefile |
| 16:07.58 | l-fy | dant > where you from? |
| 16:08.01 | Flatcat | l-fy: wassit do? |
| 16:08.02 | neonet200 | oh yes I did |
| 16:08.16 | neonet200 | i took out the # in front of ztdummy |
| 16:08.17 | l-fy | Flatcat > what? |
| 16:08.23 | Flatcat | ztwatch |
| 16:08.38 | ]data[ | hmm |
| 16:08.43 | dant | l-fy, UK, why? |
| 16:08.45 | neonet200 | the thing is that I don't see the MeetMe app showing in the /usr/lib/asterisk/modules |
| 16:08.47 | ]data[ | trip is bloated and ugly |
| 16:08.54 | l-fy | Flatcat > is monitoring the zaptel cards and send udp messages and also write logs |
| 16:09.04 | Flatcat | :o |
| 16:09.08 | l-fy | dant > your name is usual in my country |
| 16:09.22 | dant | neonet200, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+timer |
| 16:09.27 | l-fy | neonet200 > is compiled? |
| 16:09.36 | neonet200 | yes |
| 16:09.48 | dant | l-fy, cool |
| 16:09.49 | l-fy | neonet200 > then just copy by hand there |
| 16:09.58 | neonet200 | the thing is that I don't see the MeetMe app showing in the /usr/lib/asterisk/modules |
| 16:10.06 | neonet200 | you mean copy it from the source |
| 16:10.29 | dant | neonet200, so no app_meetme.so ? |
| 16:10.30 | l-fy | neonet200 > i mean copy from source app_meetme.so in /usr/lib/asterisk/modules |
| 16:11.02 | bkw_ | what? |
| 16:11.10 | neonet200 | what I want to get working is conference calling!!! |
| 16:11.13 | l-fy | bkw_ > what what? |
| 16:11.20 | dant | bkw_, database abstraction email to the list... |
| 16:11.25 | l-fy | neonet200 > take it easy |
| 16:11.46 | jimmyz | you can record ALL phone calls on Asterisk right? |
| 16:12.07 | jsmith | jimmyz: No... only calls where the audio goes *thru* the asterisk server... |
| 16:12.07 | l-fy | jimmyz > yeap |
| 16:12.21 | l-fy | well |
| 16:12.25 | dant | bkw_, [Asterisk-Users] Current database abstraction effort ? |
| 16:12.25 | dant | jimmyz, you can |
| 16:12.29 | l-fy | seems that neonet200 have quit :) |
| 16:12.29 | jimmyz | we will be using only ip phones |
| 16:12.37 | jsmith | jimmyz: It's kind of hard to record calls if the audio goes directly from one UA to another.... where Asterisk only handles setting up the call |
| 16:12.42 | jimmyz | so all audio should go through it then right |
| 16:12.50 | jsmith | jimmyz: Not always... |
| 16:12.53 | l-fy | btw |
| 16:12.54 | l-fy | *CLI> == New H.323 Connection created. |
| 16:12.54 | l-fy | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.54 | l-fy | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.54 | l-fy | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.54 | l-fy | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.56 | l-fy | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.58 | l-fy | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:13.00 | l-fy | Segmentation fault |
| 16:13.04 | jsmith | jimmyz: Let's say you have SIP phones A and B, talking to server C |
| 16:13.17 | jimmyz | what is UA |
| 16:13.21 | jimmyz | ok |
| 16:13.23 | jsmith | jimmyz: When A calls B, it actually tells C "Hey, I want to talk to B" |
| 16:13.50 | jsmith | jimmyz: Depending on whether or not reinvites are turned on/working, C might tell A to send the audio directly to B, bypassing the server |
| 16:13.58 | jimmyz | so internal calls wouldn't record but anything over t-1 or pots would? |
| 16:13.58 | jsmith | jimmyz: Does that make sense? |
| 16:14.12 | jsmith | jimmyz: Yes, again depending on your setup... |
| 16:14.26 | dant | you can force internal calls to route through the server if you need that... |
| 16:14.34 | jsmith | jimmyz: It's easy to record calls on Zap interfaces... SIP/IAX/[others] can become a lot trickier... |
| 16:14.52 | jsmith | jimmyz: You should also be aware the recording capabilites of Asterisk leave much to be desired... :-( |
| 16:15.21 | jimmyz | we have sccp phones that can be sip...probably all future phones will be sip |
| 16:15.37 | jimmyz | all i need on the recordings is file date and a wav file |
| 16:16.54 | jsmith | jimmyz: The way Asterisk currently records calls is that each leg of the conversation is in a seperate file |
| 16:17.03 | jsmith | jimmyz: And the two files don't always match up... |
| 16:17.13 | jimmyz | oh |
| 16:18.17 | jsmith | It works fairly well if you reverse the files, mix them, and then re-reverse the mixed file |
| 16:18.55 | jsmith | Not perfectly, but *fairly* well... |
| 16:19.15 | jimmyz | better than a $50,000 redbox recorder |
| 16:19.37 | jsmith | Probably not :-( but probably cheaper! |
| 16:20.19 | jsmith | jimmyz: Just make sure that if you're recording SIP calls that just be sure to turn off reinvites (which are often broken in SIP anyway) |
| 16:20.54 | jimmyz | ok...have not setup asterisk yet we are using callmanger but lease is up looking to switch to asterisk |
| 16:21.29 | jimmyz | just trying to make sure i can do everything i need to...recordings is a big plus b/c we can't do it through callmanager |
| 16:29.06 | jsmith | jimmyz: Gotta love CallMangler :-) |
| 16:29.50 | jimmyz | lol |
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| 16:30.28 | jimmyz | i would still love to see asterisk in use somewhere |
| 16:30.34 | l-fy | hi tzanger |
| 16:32.32 | killerbee | what is the CVS command to co an old version ?" |
| 16:34.37 | jsmith | killerbee: I think it's "cvs co -D 'three days ago' asterisk" |
| 16:34.58 | jsmith | killerbee: Of course, feel free to replace 'three days ago' with whichever date you wish... |
| 16:35.01 | killerbee | jsmith thanks I'll try |
| 16:35.21 | jsmith | jimmyz: I've got some people flying in to look at my Asterisk installation... you're welcome to do the same... |
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| 16:36.50 | hmodes | oy |
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| 16:46.34 | jimmyz | jsmith: where are you that |
| 16:47.11 | jsmith | jimmyz: Salt Lake City |
| 16:47.46 | jsmith | Hey, anyone else still getting the fax detection kicking in on *all* calls? |
| 16:47.58 | jimmyz | i think we are about to buy a test server and start testing in about a week |
| 16:48.23 | jimmyz | have you ever used nufone.com for anything |
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| 16:50.43 | macTijn | hm |
| 16:50.55 | jsmith | jimmyz: No, but Jeremy McNamara (JerJer) seems to be a great guy and know his stuff... (and it's nufone.net, not nufone.com) |
| 16:51.34 | macTijn | anyone knows about a hard channel limit in zapata driver ? |
| 16:51.35 | Moc | How can I make a simple answer and ask for password, once good password dialtone to make a call ? |
| 16:51.40 | boo | jsmith: Do you work at a call center? |
| 16:51.48 | macTijn | while I have 240 |
| 16:52.10 | *** join/#asterisk haighis (~john@i216-58-29-249.gta.igs.net) |
| 16:52.31 | jimmyz | i'm not that good with linux so i was looking at buying a server from them with linux and asterisk installed where i can getting the testting going |
| 16:53.16 | haighis | attacom i think offers this product...with asterisk installed |
| 16:53.53 | haighis | jimmyz who is them..i just came on to irc..missed something |
| 16:54.05 | jimmyz | nufone.net |
| 16:54.06 | jsmith | boo: Yes... I'm the IT manager of a fairly large market research company... |
| 16:54.20 | Mike | bkw_: alive? |
| 16:54.40 | jsmith | macTijn: I'm not aware of one... |
| 16:55.11 | haighis | jimmyz: do you want a production server built or a testing server built with asterisk? |
| 16:55.31 | macTijn | jsmith: it's really weird, ztcfg just stops initing all the ports |
| 16:56.27 | jimmyz | both testing first then productions for two offices |
| 16:58.05 | haighis | jimmyz: see the chat window |
| 16:58.42 | macTijn | nobody ? |
| 16:58.48 | bkw_ | GRRR |
| 16:58.51 | macTijn | I really need to get this to work... |
| 16:58.54 | macTijn | grmbl |
| 16:59.38 | bkw_ | just had a pornagrapher call and want us to sell his juarez on my website.. then commented on how cute my accent is... and went on and on and on about how nice our website was... grrrgggggrrrrrrrr |
| 16:59.52 | boo | jsmith: mostly outbound? do you do ACD? |
| 17:02.08 | jsmith | boo: Yes... more than 90% outbound, very little ACD |
| 17:02.14 | macTijn | ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 192: no such device or address (6) |
| 17:02.17 | macTijn | hmm |
| 17:02.22 | jsmith | bkw_: That's nice... not! |
| 17:02.45 | jsmith | macTijn: And you've got them all configured in zapata.conf, right? You using TE410Ps? |
| 17:02.51 | macTijn | yeah |
| 17:02.59 | macTijn | all 8 channels |
| 17:03.10 | jsmith | macTijn: And you've got the jumpers on for E1s instead of T1s? |
| 17:03.11 | macTijn | with every 16th channel as D-channel |
| 17:03.20 | macTijn | uh |
| 17:03.21 | macTijn | yeah |
| 17:03.28 | jsmith | Are you sure? |
| 17:03.33 | macTijn | (no lines connected yet btw) |
| 17:03.54 | macTijn | jumpers are all open |
| 17:04.02 | macTijn | which means it's E1 |
| 17:04.11 | jsmith | No... open means T1, I'm pretty sure... |
| 17:04.16 | macTijn | hm |
| 17:04.23 | macTijn | but ehm |
| 17:04.33 | JerJer | http://www.comics.com//wash/pcnpixel//archive/images/pcnpixel2002033131224.gif |
| 17:04.41 | macTijn | how is that related to this problem ? |
| 17:04.54 | JerJer | i hate commuting to work |
| 17:04.57 | macTijn | the 1st card is initialized prefectly |
| 17:05.02 | bkw_ | JerJer OMG that is so me |
| 17:05.08 | JerJer | bkw_: me too |
| 17:05.19 | macTijn | JerJer: how long do you travel per day ? |
| 17:05.28 | bkw_ | 2 seconds |
| 17:05.36 | JerJer | about a dozen steps |
| 17:05.46 | killerbee | k... who has a problem with an fxo card and a motorloa v1003 with one way sound? |
| 17:05.51 | jsmith | JerJer: I'm not saying your job isn't real... |
| 17:06.01 | macTijn | per day |
| 17:06.05 | JerJer | its not a real job |
| 17:06.07 | bkw_ | that paycheck look pretty real |
| 17:06.07 | jsmith | macTijn: That sucks... |
| 17:06.09 | JerJer | I like what I do :) |
| 17:06.19 | macTijn | jsmith: uhuh, company moved :( |
| 17:06.37 | jsmith | JerJer: At least I can say that about my job too... I love what I do! (But I have another job interview today!?!) |
| 17:06.50 | macTijn | heh |
| 17:07.03 | macTijn | tell me that's not a nice job. |
| 17:07.05 | macTijn | go on |
| 17:07.06 | macTijn | tell me. |
| 17:07.18 | killerbee | anyone? |
| 17:07.31 | JerJer | killerbee: that would be a no |
| 17:07.36 | JerJer | buy hardware from digium |
| 17:07.39 | killerbee | same config and all works find with a hellrizon line |
| 17:07.59 | killerbee | plug in the line from the motorola... BALM ... no outgoing sound |
| 17:08.11 | JerJer | sounds like you have a half duplex modem |
| 17:08.26 | killerbee | plug a phone into the motorola... works fine.. |
| 17:08.46 | killerbee | JerJer.. I would agree.. but all is good with a regular hellrizon line |
| 17:08.54 | JerJer | eh? |
| 17:09.08 | macTijn | jsmith: but ehm, how can the jumpers interfere with the init of the card ? |
| 17:09.09 | JerJer | if you didn't buy it from Digium it is NOT an X100P |
| 17:09.29 | JerJer | so the question is, did you purchase this hardware from digium? |
| 17:09.31 | macTijn | JerJer: you forget resellers. |
| 17:10.20 | killerbee | JerJer... all that aside... works great with hellrizon... plug in line from motorola... NO good.... |
| 17:10.35 | killerbee | could it be the signalling from the motorla? |
| 17:10.39 | killerbee | odd |
| 17:10.56 | JerJer | macTijn: that's still digium |
| 17:11.28 | jsmith | macTijn: The jumper tells the driver that this port should have 24 channels (if the jumper is off) or 30 channels (if the jumper is on) |
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| 17:15.12 | beta3 | how do I change what ip asterisk listens on by default |
| 17:15.22 | bkw_ | bindaddr |
| 17:15.42 | beta3 | bkw_: where do I place that |
| 17:16.08 | jsmith | macTijn: I get to work with asterisk as about 30% of my job... unfortunatly, that's on top of the other 100% of my job responsibilities |
| 17:16.51 | bkw_ | in the config |
| 17:16.56 | bkw_ | read the default sip.conf.sample |
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| 17:22.25 | neonet2004 | i have some problem with getting MeetMe to work |
| 17:22.36 | neonet2004 | i configured everything as it suppose to be |
| 17:22.49 | neonet2004 | and it asks me to provide the conference room # |
| 17:22.56 | neonet2004 | I enter it and it says |
| 17:23.10 | neonet2004 | "this is not valid" |
| 17:24.29 | Moc | JerJer: Im just playing with my 1800 and Im getting delay (from my * to you) |
| 17:24.31 | neonet2004 | any help?? |
| 17:25.34 | macTijn | hmm |
| 17:25.38 | macTijn | T1 is only 24 channels ? |
| 17:25.42 | Moc | yes |
| 17:25.42 | macTijn | ok |
| 17:25.44 | blitzrage | only? |
| 17:25.47 | Moc | and 1 channel normally for D channel |
| 17:25.57 | citats | Moc: only if its ISDN |
| 17:25.58 | macTijn | that makes the most sense I heard in a few days :) |
| 17:26.26 | macTijn | so I will fix it |
| 17:26.33 | macTijn | jsmith: thanks a lot dude :) |
| 17:26.51 | bkw_ | macTijn depends |
| 17:27.02 | bkw_ | citats haha you got it alrady |
| 17:27.04 | bkw_ | er already |
| 17:27.06 | macTijn | bkw: it makes a lot of sense now :) |
| 17:27.09 | jsmith | macTijn: No problem... I had the opposite problem a couple months ago... |
| 17:27.19 | macTijn | jsmith: heh :) |
| 17:28.31 | dsm123 | how did I miss that the nufone h323 channel driver is bundled with * now? I have been banging my head trying to get the oh323 driver to compile for 2 days... It was in the * distro all along! grrr |
| 17:30.10 | jsmith | dsm123: It's been there a *long* time... |
| 17:31.00 | dsm123 | I'm a noob.. :) - tried to be diligint and read the archives 1st, but they are full of instructions on the oh323 chan driver... |
| 17:31.01 | RoyK | dsm123: hehehe. that's something like 8 months ago |
| 17:32.29 | dsm123 | is that why asterisk.nufone.net doesn't resolve anymore? |
| 17:33.33 | joesmith | if anyone who knows C could modify cdr_mysql so that I can choose the config file when it is loaded in modules |
| 17:33.40 | joesmith | I love it |
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| 17:34.21 | tclark | do i hear any $$ behind that request :) |
| 17:34.46 | joesmith | 5 bucks |
| 17:34.54 | joesmith | via paypal |
| 17:36.02 | ]data[ | big spender :o |
| 17:36.07 | joesmith | yep |
| 17:36.11 | blitzrage | hey big spender! :) |
| 17:36.49 | ]data[ | ya spec wasnt very clear anyway ;) |
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| 17:38.36 | blitzrage | must be pretty cold to freeze wine :) |
| 17:39.07 | Moc | ok so it my problem.. no I still has ECHO on my line .. |
| 17:39.10 | RoyK | -15C |
| 17:39.15 | RoyK | possibly enough |
| 17:39.24 | dsm123 | heh - snowed 3" in Las Vegas yest - the apocalypse must be coming... |
| 17:39.48 | RoyK | lol |
| 17:40.25 | Moc | ok this is kind of cool.. |
| 17:41.03 | Moc | I need to transfer $ to NuFone I think.., |
| 17:41.30 | ]data[ | don't we all :) |
| 17:41.39 | Moc | ool hehe |
| 17:41.52 | *** part/#asterisk haighis (~john@i216-58-29-249.gta.igs.net) |
| 17:42.16 | Moc | I got alot of stuff to fix with my *... got echo, and also my home line using x100p sound is low |
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| 17:43.48 | RoyK | blitzrage: new years eve three years ago, we were standing outside my parent's house drinking champain, and it fscking froze in our glasses within 10 minutes |
| 17:43.53 | RoyK | -32c |
| 17:43.57 | rpb | For all you crackheads, this from nanog: "Since yesterday afternoon we saw a large increase in offsite traffic circa 80,000pps directed at host deals.in.crackcocaine.us" |
| 17:44.00 | blitzrage | now THAT's cold :) |
| 17:44.08 | RoyK | you tell me |
| 17:44.22 | dheckaman | LOL |
| 17:44.33 | bkw_ | alwiejfoiwalskjoeifjlskdjfoiwjaflkafasf |
| 17:44.44 | dheckaman | AAAHHHMEEEEENNNN |
| 17:44.46 | tz-afk | http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=91019&cid=7840846 |
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| 17:50.44 | dheckaman | LOL |
| 17:51.15 | bkw_ | wooo lost 3 more pounds |
| 17:51.20 | bkw_ | 187 now |
| 17:51.25 | dheckaman | LOL |
| 17:51.33 | dheckaman | Israel Suspends MS Office Purchases For Now |
| 17:51.35 | dheckaman | wooo |
| 17:52.17 | blitzrage | I used to be 160... now I'm 150 :) |
| 17:52.22 | Mike | can i find in usa T1 for 150USD? |
| 17:52.23 | blitzrage | sucks ass |
| 17:53.29 | bkw_ | blitzrage damn |
| 17:53.33 | bkw_ | my target is 165 |
| 17:53.41 | blitzrage | I don't even try to lose weight! :) |
| 17:53.44 | blitzrage | I can't gain.. |
| 17:53.46 | dheckaman | :P |
| 17:53.55 | bkw_ | blitzrage trust me.. you will hit a point where you gain like mad |
| 17:53.57 | blitzrage | dheckaman: that's how much I weighed in grade 9! :)_ |
| 17:54.02 | dheckaman | hmm |
| 17:54.03 | blitzrage | bkw_: not if I start working out :) |
| 17:54.06 | dheckaman | 130 ish |
| 17:54.08 | dheckaman | dunno |
| 17:54.13 | bkw_ | I was 110 when I was 17 |
| 17:54.14 | blitzrage | yep... same |
| 17:54.38 | bkw_ | :P |
| 17:54.38 | dheckaman | I am not bruno |
| 17:54.38 | blitzrage | crazy |
| 17:54.38 | dheckaman | :P |
| 17:54.38 | bkw_ | I have to loose this... I hate it |
| 17:56.46 | blitzrage | I want to get up to 180 |
| 17:57.41 | blitzrage | but I gotta start doing what people call "eating" |
| 17:57.50 | blitzrage | speaking of which.. i"m hungry :) back later! |
| 17:58.24 | bkw_ | blitzrage McDonalds will add fat fast |
| 17:58.30 | bkw_ | then if you aren't happy you can sue em |
| 17:59.50 | joesmith | does anyone know what debian packages are needed for asterisk |
| 18:00.08 | bkw_ | chicken won't gain you weight |
| 18:00.11 | bkw_ | its low in carbs |
| 18:00.22 | bkw_ | fish, chicken.. tuna |
| 18:00.25 | bkw_ | all low in carbs |
| 18:00.33 | bkw_ | well fish has ZERO |
| 18:00.35 | bkw_ | chicken should have zero |
| 18:00.41 | bkw_ | tuna is zero also |
| 18:00.59 | bkw_ | I just lowered my carb intake and thats about all I did and I started loosing weight |
| 18:01.09 | bkw_ | I also stopped drinking Dr. Pepper like mad |
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| 18:01.45 | dheckaman | haha |
| 18:02.18 | dheckaman | hahah |
| 18:04.01 | Moc | does Meridian system have same problem to configure echo stuffs ? |
| 18:05.01 | Moc | ok do I need echocancel=yes in my zapata.conf ? |
| 18:05.08 | Moc | got x100p and TDM400 card |
| 18:06.07 | bkw_ | I work out like 2 days a week now also |
| 18:06.17 | bkw_ | but only once since I lost 8 pounds |
| 18:06.39 | bkw_ | 5 days .. 8 pounds.. not bad |
| 18:06.57 | Moc | nice |
| 18:08.10 | boo | water weight loss |
| 18:09.04 | bkw_ | nope |
| 18:09.09 | bkw_ | I drink alot of water |
| 18:09.09 | Moc | yes well it always start by that. . |
| 18:10.03 | bkw_ | plus I started eating a little less |
| 18:10.12 | boo | drinking water doesn't determine your water retention though |
| 18:10.28 | bkw_ | nope but it helps :P |
| 18:11.04 | boo | yeah i guess you can't retain much water if you don't drink it |
| 18:11.05 | boo | hehe |
| 18:11.10 | Moc | best way is to walk, fast walk |
| 18:11.38 | boo | nah |
| 18:11.41 | boo | best way is sex |
| 18:11.42 | boo | lots of sex |
| 18:12.59 | blll | instead of working out two days a week, I'd like to work two days a week |
| 18:13.21 | Mike | bkw_: tried sipura2000 well now? |
| 18:13.30 | Mike | bkw_: its firmware is good? no bugs??? no shit? |
| 18:14.04 | boo | blll: here here |
| 18:14.13 | bkw_ | Mike goods |
| 18:14.32 | Mike | bkw_: ata186 vs. sipura2000 winner is? |
| 18:14.38 | bkw_ | sipura |
| 18:14.45 | Mike | bkw_: :) |
| 18:14.47 | JerJer | kram: chan_h323 or open h.323 has a File decriptor leak :( |
| 18:14.54 | kram | ah |
| 18:14.56 | kram | not good |
| 18:15.00 | JerJer | no not at all |
| 18:15.05 | bkw_ | lets fix it |
| 18:15.07 | bkw_ | :P |
| 18:15.12 | bkw_ | we tried lastnight but couldn't find it |
| 18:15.26 | kram | what's ls -l /proc/<pid>/fd say? |
| 18:15.28 | JerJer | i gota figure out how to tell WTF these two pipes are doing |
| 18:15.51 | JerJer | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Dec 31 13:06 38 -> pipe:[202484] |
| 18:15.51 | JerJer | l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Dec 31 13:06 39 -> pipe:[202484] |
| 18:16.03 | kram | oh really, pipe... |
| 18:16.10 | kram | well, what's "show channels" say? |
| 18:16.12 | JerJer | asterisk 3016 root 38r FIFO 0,5 202484 pipe |
| 18:16.12 | JerJer | asterisk 3016 root 39w FIFO 0,5 202484 pipe |
| 18:16.15 | JerJer | 0 |
| 18:16.30 | JerJer | 0 active channel(s) |
| 18:16.42 | JerJer | this is why i'm starting to suspect open h.323 |
| 18:16.58 | kram | is there a channel leak? |
| 18:17.10 | JerJer | i don't really know |
| 18:17.23 | kram | well if show channels says no then unlikely |
| 18:17.24 | JerJer | every call 14 FDs get opened but only 12 close |
| 18:17.26 | kram | grep for pipe |
| 18:17.32 | kram | in openh323 |
| 18:17.34 | kram | see if there is one |
| 18:17.44 | JerJer | there is a bunch of em |
| 18:18.03 | JerJer | and open h.323 is highly object oritentaed |
| 18:18.20 | JerJer | so sometimes there are like 4 different possible functions based on what paramters are pased :( |
| 18:19.40 | Moc | JerJer: paypal at sales@nufone.net right ? |
| 18:19.44 | JerJer | yep |
| 18:20.11 | kram | hrm |
| 18:20.22 | Moc | allright, going to add alittle 10$ before I get to low |
| 18:20.36 | JerJer | i was hopin for like a method to read from the read pipe |
| 18:21.00 | JerJer | bkw suggested breakpoints in gdb but i'm not that leet |
| 18:21.37 | bkw_ | ya we need to know what part of the code sets up those |
| 18:21.42 | bkw_ | then we can narrow it down to that part of code |
| 18:23.05 | Moc | JerJer: does it a minimum per month ? or I can put more right now ? |
| 18:23.23 | Moc | Well you understand what I mean ? |
| 18:23.44 | JerJer | bkw_: ok lets figure out how to set a break point in like h323_make_call() |
| 18:23.58 | JerJer | hell i could seg it right there too |
| 18:24.02 | bkw_ | http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/12/31/plane.death/index.html |
| 18:24.48 | bkw_ | second body found in wheel well of a jet |
| 18:24.50 | bkw_ | SCARY |
| 18:25.00 | bkw_ | JerJer ya make it seg |
| 18:25.25 | JerJer | but then how do i tell if its the leaked FD |
| 18:25.25 | JerJer | hmm |
| 18:25.28 | bkw_ | but that isn't going to help figure out the pipes |
| 18:25.36 | bkw_ | haha |
| 18:25.40 | bkw_ | ok we are on the same brainwave today |
| 18:25.54 | bkw_ | can you make it pause or sleep or something |
| 18:26.08 | bkw_ | if you can slow down the execution of the code |
| 18:26.14 | bkw_ | as it progresses thru |
| 18:26.26 | JerJer | possibly |
| 18:26.36 | JerJer | i tried that for the external rtp shit and it broke lots of things |
| 18:26.52 | JerJer | hmm |
| 18:27.04 | JerJer | everything uses the same std c function calls right? |
| 18:27.15 | bkw_ | yes should |
| 18:27.31 | JerJer | hmmm |
| 18:28.04 | JerJer | wait a minute |
| 18:28.27 | JerJer | couldn't i write a function in say the AST CLI to have select() find the susepcted FD and hook me up with some data? |
| 18:28.59 | JerJer | since i know basically which FD its gonna leak (ya know in the process of things) |
| 18:29.59 | bkw_ | could |
| 18:30.06 | kram | jerjer: i have an idea! |
| 18:30.07 | bkw_ | http://tyrall.net/~dom/RIAA_PSA.mpg |
| 18:30.09 | kram | ooh! ooh! |
| 18:30.22 | kram | you make your own pipe() function |
| 18:30.28 | l-fy | lol kram |
| 18:30.32 | l-fy | kram > where are you? |
| 18:30.34 | kram | that calls pipe out of glibc |
| 18:30.35 | kram | paris |
| 18:30.44 | l-fy | JerJer > help, my chan_h323 dosen't work |
| 18:30.45 | kram | and says "hey i'm making a pipe now" or whatever |
| 18:31.18 | bkw_ | "Hey i'm smokin on the crack pipe!" |
| 18:31.22 | JerJer | could i gather the calling function name (or mangled name) from somewhere ? |
| 18:31.22 | bkw_ | :P |
| 18:31.29 | l-fy | kram > go to arc d'triumph and past under him also for me |
| 18:31.32 | kram | from the stack maybe? |
| 18:31.37 | JerJer | yeah |
| 18:31.38 | JerJer | ok |
| 18:32.22 | JerJer | so hmm... do i just like define a function pipe inside chan_h323 and the compiler will know not to use the std c version? |
| 18:32.37 | JerJer | l-fy: your gonna have to be a whole lot more descriptive than that |
| 18:32.53 | l-fy | JerJer > seems that my asterisk crush after i get any call to chan_h323 |
| 18:33.05 | l-fy | JerJer > tell me how can i test, and what info you need |
| 18:33.07 | JerJer | [13:32] <JerJer> l-fy: your gonna have to be a whole lot more descriptive than that |
| 18:35.41 | JerJer | how about we start with a backtrace |
| 18:35.49 | JerJer | and are you running the latest code? |
| 18:36.00 | JerJer | no left over old versions laying around? |
| 18:37.03 | *** topic/#asterisk by kram -> powerkill should e-mail mark if he wants to meet in paris |
| 18:37.16 | l-fy | JerJer > i can't make an cvs update |
| 18:37.24 | JerJer | why not? |
| 18:37.37 | l-fy | because i run other things on this asterisk, and if i modify asterisk, i lose my modifs |
| 18:37.54 | *** topic/#asterisk by kram -> powerkill should e-mail kram if he wants to meet in paris |
| 18:38.01 | l-fy | i prefer to fix mgcp insted to modify asterisk version |
| 18:38.11 | l-fy | kram > powerkill was here |
| 18:38.37 | JerJer | so then u cannot complain |
| 18:38.56 | JerJer | if your not running the latest code your totally on your own |
| 18:39.21 | JerJer | btw, there is a file descriptor leak so ur gonn be forced to update someday :) |
| 18:39.23 | kram | okay off to the show |
| 18:39.34 | JerJer | kram: later, thanks... i'll see what i can come up wwith |
| 18:39.46 | joesmith | what does zapata do? |
| 18:39.47 | kram | okay, consider the pipe option |
| 18:39.52 | joesmith | (as in the package) |
| 18:39.54 | kram | if nothing else, you can make it send a signal |
| 18:39.55 | JerJer | yeah trying to |
| 18:40.00 | kram | or do an assert |
| 18:40.04 | kram | and then you can see what's happening |
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| 18:40.09 | kram | or set a breakpoint or something i dunno |
| 18:40.22 | JerJer | rut ruh raggy |
| 18:40.30 | JerJer | we'll crack it |
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| 18:40.39 | l-fy | JerJer > this is from series i don't fucking care if you don't do how i tell you |
| 18:40.40 | l-fy | ? |
| 18:40.56 | JerJer | ?! |
| 18:41.10 | kram | anyway i gotta go |
| 18:41.20 | JerJer | kram: thanks |
| 18:44.04 | l-fy | JerJer ? |
| 18:44.06 | l-fy | JerJer > |
| 18:44.07 | l-fy | (gdb) bt |
| 18:44.07 | l-fy | Couldn't get registers: Operation not permitted. |
| 18:44.16 | l-fy | this is i get in gdb |
| 18:44.17 | JerJer | sonuds like you have bigger problems |
| 18:44.24 | l-fy | ok |
| 18:44.28 | l-fy | what should i do? |
| 18:45.00 | JerJer | so yesterday you were bitching at me and today you want my help? |
| 18:45.18 | JerJer | did i get all drunk and stoned one night and marry you? |
| 18:45.20 | l-fy | JerJer > let me put this way, i can use mgcp insted of chan_h323 |
| 18:45.24 | JerJer | then do it |
| 18:45.26 | JerJer | h.323 sucks |
| 18:45.33 | l-fy | but i try to help you |
| 18:45.44 | l-fy | JerJer > if h.323 suxx, why do you use it? |
| 18:45.54 | JerJer | i don' t |
| 18:46.07 | l-fy | you tell to everyone that you use that |
| 18:46.18 | JerJer | um no i don't |
| 18:46.25 | l-fy | ok |
| 18:46.36 | JerJer | i have a few systems i manage that still has h.323 |
| 18:46.44 | l-fy | can i put this disscusion in a e-mail and send it to asterisk maillist? |
| 18:47.08 | JerJer | i duno about you, but live in a free country |
| 18:47.13 | JerJer | so do what u feel you must |
| 18:47.16 | l-fy | thank you |
| 18:47.25 | JerJer | you've already told me your not running the lastest code |
| 18:47.30 | l-fy | so you don't consider that i destroy any copyright law |
| 18:47.43 | JerJer | if u cannot run code that i know for an absolute fact functions (maybe slopply, but still) I cannot help you |
| 18:47.58 | JerJer | tclark: she sounds like a wife |
| 18:48.23 | l-fy | JerJer > don't worry, i don't like men, i prefer women |
| 18:48.29 | JerJer | good |
| 18:48.36 | JerJer | setup a webcam |
| 18:48.40 | l-fy | JerJer > anyway you are way to fat for me |
| 18:48.46 | JerJer | good |
| 18:49.01 | JerJer | i'll roll around in my money with all my fat |
| 18:49.04 | l-fy | JerJer > did i mentioned that i really hate the way you treat ppl? |
| 18:49.10 | JerJer | good |
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| 18:49.25 | l-fy | JerJer > and you will die young because of your poor little heart |
| 18:49.27 | l-fy | :> |
| 18:49.30 | l-fy | bwahaha |
| 18:49.55 | JerJer | if that's whats in the cards, i'll take it |
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| 18:50.19 | JerJer | but I walk 3 miles a day |
| 18:50.46 | l-fy | JerJer > you walk in your car or what? |
| 18:50.52 | JerJer | don' t need a care |
| 18:50.54 | JerJer | car |
| 18:51.58 | joesmith | I have to say that JerJer has never said anything mean to me |
| 18:52.04 | JerJer | my parents live 1.5 miles away from me...I walk there usually twice a day |
| 18:52.29 | JerJer | maybe to eat, maybe to ride the snowmobiles or jet skis |
| 18:52.30 | l-fy | JerJer > you cry in your mother arms every day? |
| 18:52.51 | JerJer | did i mention i live on a lake :) |
| 18:55.32 | l-fy | JerJer > you live on the lake?, and you walk on the water? |
| 18:56.12 | JerJer | i ski on the water |
| 18:56.17 | JerJer | and jet-ski |
| 18:56.22 | jorgerai | HELLO |
| 18:56.27 | JerJer | jorgerai: howdie |
| 18:56.31 | jorgerai | i need to ask something |
| 18:56.36 | JerJer | ask away |
| 18:56.39 | jorgerai | it if possible ....: ) |
| 18:56.48 | jorgerai | ok I am Miami |
| 18:56.49 | JerJer | l-fy is just raggin today |
| 18:57.10 | ]data[ | walk 3 miles a day? |
| 18:57.13 | ]data[ | jebus |
| 18:57.14 | jorgerai | and one friend told me that exist here T1 service in $150 per month |
| 18:57.23 | jorgerai | if possible |
| 18:57.24 | JerJer | my phat ass has too or i'm sore |
| 18:57.39 | dnc | JerJer: snowmobiles AND jetskis? |
| 18:57.41 | JerJer | i sit at this fuckin computer all damn day |
| 18:57.49 | ]data[ | JerJer: yay thats more like it |
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| 18:57.54 | jorgerai | somebody know about that? |
| 18:57.58 | ]data[ | JerJer: you forgot to say all night too :) |
| 18:58.15 | JerJer | oh yeah that's a given |
| 18:58.19 | dnc | where do you live jorgerai? |
| 18:58.25 | outtolunc | i've heard h3x mention ones for like $250 |
| 18:58.31 | dnc | jerjer, i need to move soon - how much does it snow near you?? |
| 18:58.31 | jorgerai | in miami |
| 18:58.33 | JerJer | dnc: gota have toys |
| 18:58.50 | JerJer | dnc: few inches right now |
| 18:58.55 | dnc | nice |
| 18:58.57 | JerJer | but its melting fast |
| 18:58.59 | jorgerai | if possible |
| 18:59.18 | l-fy | btw JerJer |
| 18:59.20 | jorgerai | I want to pu one T1 for my asterisk gateway |
| 18:59.26 | l-fy | can i talk with you in private? |
| 18:59.31 | dnc | l-fy: any snow in romania right now? |
| 18:59.38 | jorgerai | jajaja |
| 18:59.44 | l-fy | dnc > alot of snow |
| 18:59.52 | l-fy | i was already on the mountain area |
| 18:59.55 | dnc | it snowed here when i was in holland, and melted when i came back :( |
| 19:00.02 | l-fy | :))))))))))))))) |
| 19:00.06 | dnc | i just bought a snowboard - cant wait to go in february |
| 19:00.15 | l-fy | come in romania to snow |
| 19:00.22 | l-fy | we have now ALOT of snow |
| 19:00.27 | jorgerai | well somebody can tell me about the is true that service t1? |
| 19:00.31 | l-fy | i can make a picture to sxend on the net |
| 19:00.33 | jorgerai | sorry my english |
| 19:00.34 | jorgerai | jajaja |
| 19:01.06 | loko-moko | $150 sounds like just the loop |
| 19:01.24 | jorgerai | yes I know |
| 19:01.28 | l-fy | loko-moko > what do you mean by loop? |
| 19:01.30 | jorgerai | but |
| 19:02.19 | jorgerai | my friend toled me that menyperson has these service sice $150 to 250 |
| 19:02.39 | jorgerai | ful, T1 |
| 19:02.43 | jorgerai | full T1 |
| 19:02.47 | l-fy | well, seems that mgcp works like a charm |
| 19:03.03 | loko-moko | jorgerai wheer are you |
| 19:03.22 | jorgerai | the next week I am going to put one T1 and I need to know the best prieces ........: ) |
| 19:03.28 | jorgerai | in Miami florida |
| 19:03.40 | jorgerai | sw Miami |
| 19:03.42 | l-fy | jorgerai > do you have snow there? |
| 19:03.43 | loko-moko | in an office building or your house |
| 19:03.50 | jorgerai | jajajaja |
| 19:04.00 | jorgerai | no of corse |
| 19:04.03 | jorgerai | jajja |
| 19:04.10 | dnc | i dont think it CAN snow in miami can it? |
| 19:04.32 | l-fy | btw |
| 19:04.44 | l-fy | who have sync the clock with ntp to see when is new year |
| 19:04.45 | jorgerai | but I don't understand |
| 19:04.51 | loko-moko | l-fy the local loop connecting you to the provider |
| 19:05.15 | l-fy | loko-moko > here a e1 is 700$ |
| 19:05.25 | jorgerai | ok here in miami somebody know wich the more cheap prices? |
| 19:05.37 | jorgerai | E1 |
| 19:05.53 | jorgerai | but these service is europe |
| 19:05.53 | dnc | http://www.impede.net/snow.jpg |
| 19:06.00 | dnc | that was about a week ago :( |
| 19:06.09 | l-fy | jorgerai > did i mentioned that i live in a shit country |
| 19:06.10 | l-fy | ? |
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| 19:07.05 | jorgerai | ciego34 |
| 19:07.08 | jorgerai | dime men |
| 19:07.15 | jorgerai | jajaj |
| 19:07.15 | ciego34 | 2 hour to new year here!!! |
| 19:07.24 | jorgerai | estoy pregunatndo acerca del precio de T1 |
| 19:07.28 | l-fy | ciego34 > where are you? |
| 19:08.11 | blitzrage | it's rediculous here today... it's like spring |
| 19:08.19 | ciego34 | good trafic and no network congestions to all runing * |
| 19:08.21 | jorgerai | jaja well I don't have choice |
| 19:08.33 | blitzrage | only 2pm here in Canada |
| 19:09.02 | jorgerai | I going to paid the expensive service for T1 |
| 19:09.06 | jorgerai | ........: ) |
| 19:10.16 | ciego34 | Madrid, Spain |
| 19:10.28 | l-fy | ciego34 > romania |
| 19:10.38 | jaxxan | /yawn |
| 19:10.48 | jaxxan | g'morning |
| 19:10.54 | dnc | <--- serbia |
| 19:11.06 | voidptr | hey dnc |
| 19:11.13 | dnc | hey voidptr |
| 19:11.22 | dnc | you missed a cool asterisk get together on saturday :( |
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| 19:11.24 | voidptr | having a good time? ;) |
| 19:11.29 | voidptr | yeah i heard |
| 19:11.31 | Mike | guys, i have a weird problem on a fresh new cvs install on a small box p2 400mHz 64 on ram only running asterisk, when i reboot the computer asterisk starts when the computer boots but i doesnt register with FWD unless i reload asterisk on the CLI any ideas? |
| 19:11.43 | ciego34 | hoy to dios esta borracho, no conseguiras mucho creo |
| 19:11.56 | voidptr | :) |
| 19:12.11 | jorgerai | jaja asi es |
| 19:12.16 | jorgerai | dime mike |
| 19:12.24 | Mike | Connected to Asterisk CVS-12/30/03-12:57:48 currently running on asterisk (pid = 328) |
| 19:12.24 | Mike | asterisk*CLI> sip show registry |
| 19:12.24 | Mike | Host Username Refresh State |
| 19:12.24 | Mike | asterisk*CLI> |
| 19:12.26 | ciego34 | blitzrage> u are on pacific canadian cost?? |
| 19:12.58 | voidptr | dnc: we are getting snow coming days |
| 19:12.59 | voidptr | :P |
| 19:13.02 | jaxxan | that's all that mine shows |
| 19:13.04 | ciego34 | not.. sorry |
| 19:13.04 | ciego34 | you are on EST |
| 19:13.11 | voidptr | so with a little luck all that is gone if you get back here |
| 19:13.12 | dnc | voidptr: so am i :p |
| 19:13.12 | voidptr | :P |
| 19:13.17 | ciego34 | 6 hour from here |
| 19:13.24 | dnc | heh, im not coming back till i go boarding in february |
| 19:13.33 | voidptr | ok :) |
| 19:13.48 | voidptr | boarding? |
| 19:13.50 | dnc | snowboarding |
| 19:13.54 | voidptr | in holland? :P |
| 19:14.15 | dnc | in serbia |
| 19:14.24 | dnc | heh, did you know .nl has europes largest manmade ski slope? |
| 19:14.32 | voidptr | yeh thats true |
| 19:14.40 | voidptr | but nothing beats the real thing |
| 19:14.41 | voidptr | :) |
| 19:15.35 | dnc | coke? |
| 19:15.42 | voidptr | that too |
| 19:15.49 | voidptr | oh well |
| 19:15.55 | voidptr | coke i wouldn't know |
| 19:15.59 | voidptr | :P |
| 19:16.05 | dnc | so anyone had new years already? any aussies here? |
| 19:16.25 | voidptr | coppice did |
| 19:20.55 | voidptr | The *real* software market has little to fear from Open Source. In my |
| 19:20.55 | voidptr | experience, the tens of thousands of programmers in the financial sector fear |
| 19:20.55 | voidptr | India, not Linus. |
| 19:20.56 | voidptr | hehe |
| 19:20.59 | voidptr | so true :) |
| 19:21.50 | dnc | yeah but i used to be a finacial sector programmer,,, and im so happy my ex job has probably gone to india... some poor bastard is sweating his guts out over another fucking nightmare project |
| 19:21.55 | jorgerai | well |
| 19:21.59 | jorgerai | and them |
| 19:22.30 | voidptr | dnc : yeah :D |
| 19:22.46 | jorgerai | somebody here is the mIami FL? |
| 19:22.52 | jorgerai | only I |
| 19:23.02 | voidptr | maybe they still have to wake up |
| 19:23.03 | jorgerai | ::::::::::) |
| 19:23.14 | jorgerai | <:::::::::> |
| 19:23.36 | voidptr | http://www.xfree86.org/#core |
| 19:23.45 | voidptr | thats pretty retarded |
| 19:24.29 | voidptr | now we'll get 5 forks, with even worse code ;) |
| 19:26.44 | dnc | thats x for you... |
| 19:26.59 | dnc | actually hopefully this will cut down on the forks |
| 19:27.31 | boo | the more forks the merrier |
| 19:31.23 | voidptr | good well... |
| 19:37.44 | dheckaman | http://www.redherring.com/article.aspx?f=Articles/2003%2F12%2Ff5ec5f4b-522b-429a-8524-ed71ae6a7dbf%2Ff5ec5f4b-522b-429a-8524-ed71ae6a7dbf.xml&hed=VoIP%20for%20the%20masses |
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| 19:44.48 | sizzzung | jorgerai: what do you need in miami? |
| 19:52.38 | ]data[ | mmm curry be good |
| 19:53.25 | JerJer | derp a derbe derp a derp derp |
| 19:53.49 | data[coding] | Dynamic Extension Routing Protocol :) |
| 19:54.34 | bkw_ | burp burp burp |
| 19:54.48 | JerJer | what's wrong with TRIP and/or ENUM? |
| 19:54.58 | bkw_ | JerJer you fix0r chan_h323 yet? |
| 19:55.15 | JerJer | nope ; ( |
| 19:56.03 | bkw_ | :( |
| 19:56.30 | data[coding] | Trip smells |
| 19:56.32 | JerJer | i'm sorta confused |
| 19:56.46 | JerJer | and then dealing with a couple other things currently also |
| 19:56.47 | bkw_ | JerJer thats normal for all guys at some point in their life! |
| 19:56.53 | bkw_ | muhahahaha |
| 19:56.54 | bkw_ | haha |
| 19:57.43 | JerJer | i'm thinkin i could go find the real pipe function and just print out the fd |
| 19:59.39 | bkw_ | haha I got called an asshole |
| 19:59.40 | bkw_ | lovely |
| 19:59.54 | mizzie__ | bkw_: you being an asshole |
| 19:59.54 | voidptr | aren't you? :o |
| 19:59.57 | mizzie__ | bkw_: how ironic |
| 20:00.01 | mizzie__ | ... |
| 20:00.03 | JerJer | i have an asswhole, dont you? |
| 20:00.16 | mizzie__ | i dont have an asswhole |
| 20:01.00 | JerJer | i hope you don't have an asshat |
| 20:05.14 | data[coding] | perhaps he'll have a fedorahole instead |
| 20:05.17 | data[coding] | *boom boom* |
| 20:06.43 | FuzzyCat | oh shit |
| 20:07.11 | deexm | can anyone explain to me how to set the callerID to display the DNIS on incoming calls from voicepulse |
| 20:07.58 | jimmyz | anyone using the swissvoice 10s phones? do they work well? |
| 20:10.32 | bkw_ | this asshat is about to get zinged on a public mailing list |
| 20:10.55 | bkw_ | this guy got pissed about me asking why we need a howto |
| 20:11.22 | blitzrage | we don't... we've got the asterisk book :) |
| 20:11.27 | blitzrage | kinda.. :) |
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| 20:12.58 | Moc | 0. |
| 20:12.58 | voidptr | so |
| 20:13.08 | voidptr | another voip topic at /. |
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| 20:13.44 | bkw_ | Mr. West I've been called arrogant, egotistical, self centered and even an |
| 20:13.44 | bkw_ | asshole but I think i have enough sense to realize that not everyone is on |
| 20:13.44 | bkw_ | the same level just because you didn't need a howto guide doesn't mean |
| 20:13.44 | bkw_ | others don't or won't. By the way, two closing points. First of all |
| 20:13.44 | bkw_ | someone recommended you to me the other day. Termed you as a "competent |
| 20:13.45 | bkw_ | asterisk consultant". I must say at this point, my opinion has been |
| 20:13.47 | bkw_ | clouded by your lack of social ettiquette. |
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| 20:14.36 | blitzrage | lol |
| 20:14.37 | bkw_ | oh yes... I can be an asshole... |
| 20:14.40 | bkw_ | I can be mean too |
| 20:14.41 | blitzrage | agreed |
| 20:14.43 | blitzrage | :D |
| 20:14.50 | blitzrage | me too :) |
| 20:14.51 | bkw_ | but social ettiquete.. I have that |
| 20:14.54 | bkw_ | everyone has that |
| 20:15.01 | bkw_ | I just don't use it as much on that lame ass mailing list |
| 20:15.04 | blitzrage | just because someone disagrees.... |
| 20:15.05 | bkw_ | you should read my response |
| 20:15.06 | l-fy | bkw_ > nope |
| 20:15.19 | blitzrage | bkw_: I'd like to, but I'm not on that mailing list anymore |
| 20:15.28 | blitzrage | too much noise to read anything interesting |
| 20:16.11 | bkw_ | true |
| 20:16.22 | rpb | And trying to read some thing fast and then dealing with bottom posters. ick |
| 20:16.35 | blitzrage | bottom posters ? |
| 20:16.57 | rpb | Steven wants everyone to reply on the bottom. What's so bad about the top. |
| 20:17.12 | blitzrage | because bottom posting has been the norm since newsgroups |
| 20:17.12 | bkw_ | Steven likes it on bottom? |
| 20:17.19 | blitzrage | that's how I reply as well. |
| 20:17.26 | bkw_ | I reply inline and bottom |
| 20:17.30 | ScaredyCat | new groups suck ass |
| 20:17.31 | blitzrage | top posting is a MS Outlook thing |
| 20:17.37 | blitzrage | ScaredyCat: I disagree |
| 20:17.42 | blitzrage | bkw_: diddo |
| 20:17.52 | blitzrage | bkw_: and I even remove what isn't relevant :) |
| 20:17.58 | ScaredyCat | bottom posting is for the intellectually challenged |
| 20:17.59 | rpb | Yeah, I know, but trying to quickly cycle through a hundred messages a day, and having to scroll through each one is a pita. |
| 20:18.04 | *** part/#asterisk ooa (~oooa@ip181.legends-river-oaks.slc.ygnition.net) |
| 20:18.47 | blitzrage | rpb: not if you have a good mail client that makes the new post stand out, and if people follow etiquette and only leave in what is necessary. It's a problem when people bottom post and leave 1000 lines of un-needed text above it |
| 20:19.04 | dheckaman | haha |
| 20:19.05 | rpb | I can handle that. |
| 20:19.16 | blitzrage | people honestly just don't know HOW to use email |
| 20:19.28 | blitzrage | I see it all the time.. people using email for things that should be done in any other form :) |
| 20:19.45 | dheckaman | like carrier pigion |
| 20:19.52 | blitzrage | using email for what should be sent in an IM message is inappropriate |
| 20:20.23 | dheckaman | tis empty |
| 20:20.31 | blitzrage | yep |
| 20:20.42 | ScaredyCat | im sucks ass too |
| 20:20.51 | rpb | Any doughnuts in the conf room? |
| 20:20.57 | data[coding] | mmm donuts |
| 20:21.03 | blitzrage | hrm... XFree86 core team disbands... |
| 20:21.10 | dheckaman | lol |
| 20:21.31 | rpb | What does that mean, if it disbands. No more X? |
| 20:22.00 | voidptr | no more restrictions on what crap ends up in xfree |
| 20:22.05 | voidptr | whooohaaai :) |
| 20:22.18 | rpb | spagetthi here we come |
| 20:22.36 | blitzrage | haha |
| 20:25.18 | data[coding] | cant be as bad as windows :) |
| 20:25.34 | voidptr | trust me... xfree is a mess :) |
| 20:25.52 | l-fy | voidptr > not more then asterisk |
| 20:26.04 | voidptr | hehe :D |
| 20:28.53 | jimmyz | opion...what are the best phones to use with asterisk? |
| 20:29.24 | jimmyz | besides the cisco phones |
| 20:29.35 | *** join/#asterisk ursenj_ (~ursenj@63.226.79.47) |
| 20:29.55 | blitzrage | everyone send me a bday present! My birthday is in a week |
| 20:29.59 | ursenj_ | what ATA fxs is better,. the Cisco or th suprea |
| 20:30.36 | JerJer | neither |
| 20:30.37 | JerJer | IAXy |
| 20:30.53 | ursenj_ | IAXy?? |
| 20:31.20 | blitzrage | it's vapourware... don't listen to JerJer, he doesn't know what the hell he is talking about |
| 20:31.25 | blitzrage | :D |
| 20:31.49 | ursenj_ | so, cisco or suprea(sp?) |
| 20:31.59 | jsmith | blitzrage: It's not... I'll have an IAXy next week |
| 20:31.59 | *** join/#asterisk km- (pgrace@virgil.fierymoon.com) |
| 20:32.05 | blitzrage | jsmith: I know it's not :) |
| 20:32.07 | km- | howdy! |
| 20:32.10 | blitzrage | shutup! |
| 20:32.12 | blitzrage | :) |
| 20:32.12 | jsmith | Howdy km- |
| 20:32.24 | km- | how's it goin guys |
| 20:32.25 | blitzrage | just j/kin' km- :) |
| 20:32.28 | jsmith | blitzrage: Just run off and go drinking now... you're more fun when you're drunk... |
| 20:32.30 | km- | hahahaha |
| 20:32.34 | blitzrage | tis true |
| 20:32.40 | blitzrage | more horny too :) |
| 20:32.55 | blitzrage | hey!!! |
| 20:32.57 | ursenj_ | ok throw me a bone,.. IAXy?? ATA what should I was |
| 20:32.59 | jsmith | km-: I was just about to do that... |
| 20:33.05 | blitzrage | I don't go for the backdoor shannanagons |
| 20:33.12 | blitzrage | :) |
| 20:33.14 | jsmith | ursenj_: IAXy will work better with Asterisk... |
| 20:33.17 | jorgerai | mike |
| 20:33.22 | km- | I'd go with the back door with a girl named shannan |
| 20:33.25 | jorgerai | I have one error |
| 20:33.31 | km- | however, I think you meant "shenanigans" :) |
| 20:33.31 | ursenj_ | jsmith, were does one get a IAXy |
| 20:33.33 | blitzrage | I know a girl named shannon that I'd like to do :) |
| 20:33.42 | blitzrage | km-: yah.. that's the word :) |
| 20:33.53 | km- | hehe |
| 20:33.58 | blitzrage | ok.. and I'm off! |
| 20:34.01 | km- | have fun |
| 20:34.43 | jorgerai | ok |
| 20:35.06 | ursenj_ | JerJer, jsmith, you've got me intrested with this IAXy device,.. were does one get one. |
| 20:35.21 | km- | they're not for sale yet? |
| 20:35.26 | km- | I think another month or so |
| 20:35.49 | jorgerai | hey listen I am NOVATO in linux ....:) |
| 20:36.05 | km- | hey |
| 20:36.13 | km- | awesome, asterisk is going to have a booth at linuxworld! |
| 20:36.15 | jorgerai | I am trying to install mpg123 but I have one error |
| 20:37.14 | jsmith | ursenj_: They will be available from Digium in the near future. |
| 20:37.48 | km- | am I going to be the only person at LWCE this year from this group (excluding digium's booth crew) |
| 20:37.55 | dheckaman | hmm |
| 20:38.06 | dheckaman | :P |
| 20:38.08 | ursenj_ | ok I need something next week,. cisco or that GS brand |
| 20:38.11 | km- | hehehe |
| 20:38.18 | dheckaman | and a visa, and a passport, and papers... |
| 20:38.21 | dheckaman | ooh |
| 20:38.21 | dheckaman | how? |
| 20:38.25 | dheckaman | can I get one? |
| 20:38.43 | ursenj_ | km-, were is the LW at this year |
| 20:39.16 | km- | NY |
| 20:39.28 | dheckaman | boston |
| 20:39.36 | dheckaman | ny? |
| 20:39.39 | dheckaman | ehm |
| 20:39.40 | km- | dheckaman: have connections with the vice prez of linux systems at IBM |
| 20:39.42 | km- | NYC this year |
| 20:39.44 | km- | boston next year |
| 20:40.01 | dheckaman | when is it? |
| 20:40.17 | km- | http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/linuxworldny/V40/index.cvn?id=10007&p_navID=4 |
| 20:40.26 | km- | expo is 21-23 |
| 20:40.36 | km- | conferences begin on the 20th |
| 20:41.31 | dheckaman | oooh |
| 20:41.43 | dheckaman | all I need is to visit my uncle at the same time |
| 20:42.10 | dheckaman | whos gonna be at digium |
| 20:42.19 | dheckaman | er, be digium |
| 20:42.22 | JerJer | hell i might drive there |
| 20:42.22 | ursenj_ | I work for an airline,. I could have made it but Hawaii is that weekend,..(shit,.) |
| 20:42.24 | km- | mark, greg |
| 20:42.24 | km- | etc |
| 20:42.28 | km- | jerjer: that'd rule |
| 20:42.36 | dheckaman | JerJer: yea |
| 20:42.45 | dheckaman | ursenj_: hahahahahahahahhahahah |
| 20:42.48 | dheckaman | sux to b u |
| 20:42.53 | km- | oh bother |
| 20:42.57 | km- | I have to be in hawaii instead of NYC |
| 20:43.00 | dheckaman | who wants to go to hawaii |
| 20:43.13 | ursenj_ | I'll send the wife :)) |
| 20:43.14 | km- | ;> |
| 20:43.17 | dheckaman | lol |
| 20:43.24 | *** join/#asterisk dannie (~dannie@s1-10.colo.iglou.com) |
| 20:43.38 | km- | if I could be in hawaii instead of NYC I'd be in hawaii |
| 20:43.41 | km- | even with lwce going on |
| 20:43.46 | dheckaman | bah |
| 20:43.46 | voidptr | lol at new post to ml |
| 20:43.49 | dheckaman | tis boring there |
| 20:44.02 | ursenj_ | you go to hawaii to do nothing |
| 20:44.23 | hmodes | uuugh, linuxworld is such a corporate whore-a-thon |
| 20:44.47 | hmodes | when i went a couple years ago the debian booth was the size of my cubicle, and the compaq booth was the size of my house |
| 20:44.58 | hmodes | quite depressing |
| 20:45.03 | voidptr | :) |
| 20:45.18 | voidptr | always like that |
| 20:45.27 | km- | hmodes: hehehe |
| 20:45.38 | km- | hmodes: if I can get a few extra passes I'll score one for you too |
| 20:45.43 | dheckaman | me too |
| 20:45.45 | dheckaman | if I go |
| 20:45.50 | km- | if you don't mind possibly wearing an IBM staff tag |
| 20:45.51 | km- | :P |
| 20:45.56 | hmodes | i'm pretty sure i can just call my ibm rep and point out i've given them a couple mil |
| 20:45.57 | dheckaman | noo |
| 20:46.11 | km- | we could be honorary IBM weenies |
| 20:46.21 | dheckaman | LOL |
| 20:46.21 | hmodes | although i have enough frickin trouble getting a polo shirt from the prick ;p |
| 20:46.29 | km- | hahahahaha |
| 20:46.36 | km- | "GIVE ME FREE STUFF!" |
| 20:46.42 | hmodes | yeah seriously |
| 20:46.47 | bkw_ | what? |
| 20:46.51 | km- | we give out mad freebies at our company |
| 20:46.55 | hmodes | i give you money by proxy! where's my free crap! |
| 20:47.02 | dheckaman | hahah |
| 20:47.03 | ursenj_ | if your in bed with DELL the will take care of ya!! |
| 20:47.08 | km- | you make commission off of me! |
| 20:47.20 | km- | bkw: whud up brian k |
| 20:47.28 | bkw_ | I got blased on -users |
| 20:47.31 | bkw_ | so I blasted back |
| 20:47.39 | km- | bkw_: ah, I dont subscribe to -users! |
| 20:47.40 | km- | boo |
| 20:47.48 | bkw_ | let me show you waht happened |
| 20:47.49 | km- | why do people have to flame on mailing lists I dont subscribe to |
| 20:47.53 | km- | but you see, signal to noise ratio |
| 20:47.59 | km- | lots more noise on users than signal |
| 20:48.03 | km- | thats why I unsubscribed :P |
| 20:48.36 | rpb | Ok, in reply to that woman remote the other day: |
| 20:48.36 | rpb | http://www.laughnaked.com/getjokes.php?cat=Funny+Pictures&id=284&rat=1 |
| 20:48.38 | deexm | can anyone explain to me how to set the callerID to display the DNIS on incoming calls from voicepulse |
| 20:50.15 | deexm | exten => ${EXTEN},4,SetCallerID(${RDNIS} |
| 20:50.25 | deexm | doesnt work |
| 20:50.27 | Moc | we need better IP Phone .. |
| 20:50.42 | ursenj_ | is * going to be at SFO in aug for LW?? |
| 20:53.22 | hmodes | bleh, time to go home |
| 20:54.38 | km- | wow |
| 20:55.00 | km- | so it appears that asterisk is finally to the point where the kudos and flames are about half/half |
| 20:56.49 | voidptr | ok |
| 20:56.52 | voidptr | bbl |
| 20:56.59 | Moc | I need that phone show the line is in use on all phones |
| 20:56.59 | km- | later void |
| 20:57.04 | *** part/#asterisk rajo (~rainer@p508AEAE6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:57.25 | km- | moc: eh, you want line indicators you say? |
| 20:57.34 | Moc | yes |
| 20:57.38 | km- | yeah, me too |
| 20:57.44 | km- | I keep trying to write a lightboard app |
| 20:57.51 | km- | but I keep getting sidetracked and it gets back burnered |
| 20:58.00 | Moc | but ppl tell me is more a phone thing than an asterisk thingйй |
| 20:58.29 | dheckaman | hah |
| 20:58.36 | dheckaman | linuxworld expo is free |
| 20:58.38 | km- | well, it depends on what technology you're talking about |
| 20:58.42 | dheckaman | exhibit hall package |
| 20:58.51 | dheckaman | as long as you get it online |
| 20:59.03 | Moc | same as comdex |
| 21:00.36 | Moc | but really, once Digium get the IAXy device out, it mean they got a good proto type for an ip phone.. |
| 21:01.35 | jimmyz | moc: what about the telstrat ip phone i2732 would it work |
| 21:01.44 | km- | blue? |
| 21:01.52 | km- | you could hack a 7960 and put a different led in it |
| 21:01.55 | gadams666 | of equal intensity to my Cisco red one |
| 21:02.16 | km- | I'm pretty sure that'd be an easy hack |
| 21:02.44 | gadams666 | not for me. I'd start with a phone and a blue LED. I'd end up with 30 "extra" pieces parts |
| 21:03.00 | mishehu | why would you want a blue mwi? |
| 21:03.09 | gadams666 | actually, I like my cisco phone, just wished it had a back lit screen |
| 21:03.16 | km- | ah hell yeah |
| 21:03.17 | gadams666 | mishehu: to be different. |
| 21:03.19 | Moc | i2732 look nice, except the logo at top is kind of big .. |
| 21:03.28 | km- | I wish the cisco had a backlit screen real bad |
| 21:03.33 | km- | the new cisco phones are color and backlit |
| 21:04.00 | gadams666 | km: as an Apple user, I can rightly say the new Cisco phones are expensive! :) |
| 21:04.07 | mishehu | color and backlit? |
| 21:04.09 | mishehu | heh |
| 21:04.25 | km- | gadams: an apple user calling anything in the tech sector expensive? whoa! |
| 21:04.33 | gadams666 | yah, see |
| 21:04.53 | gadams666 | but if Cisco came out with a phone that had solitaire loaded...... hmmmm |
| 21:05.02 | km- | haha |
| 21:05.11 | heison | i'm trying to write a macro to read out a number by calling playback(digits/*), does anyone have an example? |
| 21:05.50 | km- | heison: SayDigits? |
| 21:06.03 | km- | heison: why use playback(digits/whatever) when you can just use SayDigits(${digits}) |
| 21:06.25 | heison | hmm... coz, i didn't know it exists :) thanks! |
| 21:06.32 | km- | no problem, glad I could help.. |
| 21:06.56 | km- | hopefully when we finish the asterisk documentation project people will learn about these cool (albeit unknown) things that asterisk can do |
| 21:07.00 | ursenj_ | holy shit!,. 7970g is color! |
| 21:07.15 | km- | heison: 'show applications' on the cli will show you other stuff |
| 21:07.24 | jimmyz | anyone using the swissvoice 10s phones |
| 21:07.26 | km- | ursenj: yep, that's what gadams, misheshu and I are talking about |
| 21:07.47 | ursenj_ | nice,. probably as much as my house payment |
| 21:07.47 | heison | km-: can i chat with you? |
| 21:08.30 | km- | sure, you're doing it now! :) |
| 21:08.40 | bkw_ | haha |
| 21:08.46 | bkw_ | this post to the maillist is funny |
| 21:09.01 | Moc | what topic Й |
| 21:09.09 | heison | i meant /dcc chat... |
| 21:09.10 | bkw_ | New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk. |
| 21:09.18 | km- | bkw: yeah I read that fucking post |
| 21:09.31 | *** join/#asterisk swoolley1 (~swoolley@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 21:09.34 | km- | bkw: see, that's what sucks about open source |
| 21:09.37 | km- | heison: sure |
| 21:09.44 | Moc | guess im not part of that mailliong list |
| 21:09.51 | km- | for good reason |
| 21:09.55 | km- | asterisk-user sucks |
| 21:10.16 | *** join/#asterisk ooa (~oooa@ip181.legends-river-oaks.slc.ygnition.net) |
| 21:10.39 | rpb | Not really. You just have to filter out the chaff to get at the wheat. |
| 21:10.56 | km- | once you filter out the chaff, there's like 1 good post every five days |
| 21:11.07 | bkw_ | Asterisk-Users Unsubscribe Results |
| 21:11.08 | bkw_ | You have been unsubscribed. |
| 21:11.15 | heison | exten => 206,2,Playback(vm/1003/greet) |
| 21:11.15 | heison | exten => 206,3,Playback(vm-extension) |
| 21:11.15 | heison | exten => 206,4,SayDigits(1003) |
| 21:11.29 | km- | bkw: we need to make a super secret mailing list! :) |
| 21:11.49 | heison | km- : with 1003 being ${extension} |
| 21:11.49 | dnc | km-: isnt that what the irc channel is? :) |
| 21:11.56 | km- | dnc: haha |
| 21:12.06 | km- | heison: what is your ultimate goal? |
| 21:12.37 | km- | heison: there may be an easier implementation of what you're trying to do |
| 21:13.36 | JerJer | lol its new years in iraq |
| 21:14.25 | jimmyz | what phones are the most stable for production use...other than the cisco phones....i do like that 7970G lol |
| 21:14.37 | km- | other than cisco phones? |
| 21:14.38 | *** join/#asterisk qosman (~swoolley@uslec-63-243-113-4.cust.uslec.net) |
| 21:14.50 | km- | I think the snom's are more stable than the budgettones |
| 21:14.59 | heison | km-: announce phone directory. |
| 21:15.15 | heison | km-: after ppl key in the last name |
| 21:15.29 | jimmyz | what about the swiss voice phones |
| 21:15.38 | km- | heison: show application directory |
| 21:16.57 | *** join/#asterisk qosman (~swoolley@uslec-63-243-113-4.cust.uslec.net) |
| 21:17.12 | heison | km-: what is it called? |
| 21:17.30 | km- | heison: there is a directory application, called Directory, in asterisk |
| 21:17.35 | heison | just Directory? |
| 21:17.39 | heison | ok |
| 21:17.45 | km- | heison: if you execute the command 'show application directory' at your CLI> prompt, it'll tell you about it |
| 21:18.08 | bkw_ | I just had a kick ass idea for all the ODBC stuff in asterisk |
| 21:18.25 | km- | bkw: rock on, keep me informed! :P |
| 21:20.28 | *** join/#asterisk tim27 (tim27@229-29.dr.cgocable.ca) |
| 21:20.39 | tim27 | hello everyone |
| 21:20.40 | qosman | Anyone have any ideas about establishing a call via a web page url. I have been advised to either do it through asterisk manager or cgi script. Any other ideas? |
| 21:20.40 | tim27 | :) |
| 21:21.06 | tim27 | anyone here ever used cisco 7910 ??? |
| 21:21.10 | km- | qosman: establishing a call? |
| 21:21.26 | km- | qosman: you mean like having a softphone on a webpage? |
| 21:21.41 | joesmith | how do you get a modversions.h file in debian |
| 21:22.00 | km- | joesmith: that's a file that's distributed with the kernel source, so my guess is linux-kernel-headers package? |
| 21:22.19 | bkw_ | make menuconfig |
| 21:22.21 | bkw_ | save config |
| 21:22.22 | bkw_ | make dep |
| 21:22.33 | qosman | I am putting together a solution that will employ the Digium TE410P with one T1 going out the PSTN and the other front-ending a PBX. The idea is that based on a URL, Asterisk will dial an employee behind the PBX. When the employee picks up, Asterisk will dial the customer(detailed in the URL) |
| 21:22.36 | bkw_ | then try it.. but if the kernel running and the config don't match you will have to build a new kernel |
| 21:22.51 | tim27 | bkw_ do you know 7910 ??? |
| 21:23.01 | joesmith | i got the file, and I have copied it to /usr/include/linux/ |
| 21:23.04 | joesmith | however it does nto work |
| 21:23.07 | tim27 | do it support POE and SIP ??? |
| 21:23.20 | bkw_ | tim no sip |
| 21:23.24 | bkw_ | dont know about poe |
| 21:24.09 | tim27 | so this is not good to work with * :( |
| 21:24.23 | km- | 7910 uses skinny probably |
| 21:25.12 | tim27 | on cisco web site they say it support sip |
| 21:25.22 | tim27 | but dont know if it support on all version :( |
| 21:26.38 | Moc | that piss me off... once you have a model out, it just 1 model, and if new software come out, well upgrade is free .. |
| 21:27.15 | km- | well, smartnet for cisco phones isn't that bad pricewise |
| 21:28.47 | *** part/#asterisk stan (stan@81.168.99.134) |
| 21:30.02 | km- | I love spammers! |
| 21:30.07 | km- | Subject: bidirectional resurrect elector geology |
| 21:30.41 | km- | why is it that half of the fricking spam is misspelled |
| 21:31.20 | dheckaman | to get past filters |
| 21:31.32 | km- | ooh good point |
| 21:33.11 | bkw_ | haha |
| 21:33.54 | km- | hmm is jerjer around I wonder |
| 21:34.01 | km- | 20 min idle... hmm |
| 21:34.16 | dheckaman | ~seen JarJar |
| 21:34.21 | | i haven't seen 'jarjar', dheckaman |
| 21:34.21 | dheckaman | ~seen JarJarBinks |
| 21:34.22 | | dheckaman: i haven't seen 'jarjarbinks' |
| 21:34.25 | dheckaman | ~seen jerjer |
| 21:34.26 | | jerjer is currently on #asterisk (19h 56m 31s). Has said a total of 423 messages. Is idling for 20m 50s |
| 21:35.30 | *** join/#asterisk ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) |
| 21:35.48 | km- | 15 cisco power bricks, buy it now for $375 |
| 21:36.07 | dheckaman | mine! |
| 21:36.10 | *** join/#asterisk ark1 (~ark@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 21:36.21 | km- | hahaha |
| 21:36.34 | km- | I'm looking for jerjer so I can put an order in for power bricks for these 7905'w |
| 21:36.36 | km- | 's |
| 21:38.00 | bkw_ | send me one please please please |
| 21:38.10 | dheckaman | send me 14 |
| 21:38.29 | jimmyz | do you have headsets on your 7905's? |
| 21:38.37 | km- | nope |
| 21:38.39 | km- | no headset port on the 7905 |
| 21:38.50 | km- | but I'm sure a normal plantronics passthru headset would work |
| 21:39.00 | jimmyz | can you take the handset off and plug a headset into it? |
| 21:39.03 | km- | the 7960 has a dedicated headset port |
| 21:39.12 | km- | jimmyz: yeah, thats what I mean about the passthru headset |
| 21:39.33 | km- | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3068219549&category=11909 |
| 21:39.34 | jimmyz | yea but the 7940 and 60's cost too much |
| 21:39.39 | km- | cisco 7960 $76 bux |
| 21:39.41 | km- | 2 days left |
| 21:39.54 | km- | I bid up to $75 since it says unknown condition but some of you guys may be more adventurous |
| 21:39.57 | Aharonov | _eagle_, boo, my company Xelerance.com, does what you are contemplating. We try to structure things so that we have long term projects and |
| 21:40.02 | dheckaman | sure |
| 21:40.02 | dheckaman | :P |
| 21:40.11 | km- | beside |
| 21:40.18 | km- | I've already got two 7960's! |
| 21:40.18 | Aharonov | hmm. oops, that conversation ended awhile ago, but my windows were confused. |
| 21:40.29 | km- | no need for any more |
| 21:40.34 | km- | I've got a total of 6 IP phones now |
| 21:40.41 | km- | where am I going to put all these friggin 7905's! |
| 21:40.50 | jimmyz | we have about 5 7960's and 50 7940...but exec want cheaper phones with headsets |
| 21:40.54 | dheckaman | I have some room |
| 21:40.56 | dheckaman | send one here |
| 21:40.57 | newcomer | hrmm.. how much bandwidth can each call take over ethernet ? |
| 21:41.12 | dheckaman | 50 gigabytes |
| 21:41.14 | km- | newcomer: mark said you could put 100 calls per megabit if you were using IAX2 trunking and g729 codec |
| 21:41.15 | jimmyz | but we are on callmanger about to try and switch to asterisk |
| 21:41.17 | dheckaman | per nano second |
| 21:41.21 | Aharonov | a call is about 64kb/s |
| 21:41.41 | km- | jimmyz: you know, you cna just put sip firmware on all the 7960/7940's and reuse the hardware |
| 21:41.43 | Aharonov | yes, g729 can do better than that. |
| 21:41.51 | km- | aharonov: dude, 64kbs! pshaw! |
| 21:41.55 | jimmyz | we plan to |
| 21:42.06 | km- | if you use gsm/ilbc you'll get in for like 15-20kbps |
| 21:42.14 | newcomer | hrmm.. i see .. because 64kbps is too much .. |
| 21:42.22 | newcomer | how many calls can i push out with a 128kbps .. ? |
| 21:42.31 | jimmyz | 729 is about 28k |
| 21:42.49 | Aharonov | km-, that's not an order of magnitude different, so unless you have pretty hard QoS, I wouldn't bet on more. |
| 21:42.51 | newcomer | g729 uses 28k .. total including all the overheads ? |
| 21:42.55 | bkw_ | newcomer yo what up |
| 21:43.05 | newcomer | i'm good .. how are you doing ? |
| 21:43.05 | bkw_ | ilbc uses less |
| 21:43.26 | newcomer | ilbc ? |
| 21:43.28 | bkw_ | great |
| 21:43.31 | km- | actually |
| 21:43.35 | km- | I'm starting to use gsm over ilbc now |
| 21:43.41 | km- | since gsm actually seems to use less bw than ilbc |
| 21:43.42 | Aharonov | note, if you have 128k outgoing, you likely have 1-meg-modem (aka "HSE"), and the uplink has tons of FEC, and so very high jitter. |
| 21:43.45 | bkw_ | newcomer are you the one that posted the anti-n00b message to the mailign list? |
| 21:43.47 | bkw_ | :P |
| 21:43.55 | deexm | is there a preferred dist. of linux that works best with *? |
| 21:44.06 | bkw_ | deexm redhat 8 |
| 21:44.17 | newcomer | anti-n00b ? whats that bro ? |
| 21:44.28 | *** join/#asterisk mexico (~mexico@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 21:44.38 | newcomer | nope, i'm not on the list :) |
| 21:44.39 | jimmyz | km-: have you used this phone http://www.communitech.com/swissvoice/sv-ip10.asp |
| 21:44.52 | bkw_ | ah ok |
| 21:44.53 | deexm | how long until RH8 hits EOL |
| 21:44.58 | newcomer | so with all the overheads, each calls gets about 28kbps ? |
| 21:45.01 | km- | jimmyz: nope, it's cool looking though |
| 21:45.05 | bkw_ | if it works dont fix it |
| 21:45.05 | joesmith | rh8 hists eol tomarrow |
| 21:45.08 | jimmyz | headset port also |
| 21:45.10 | km- | newcomer: it all depends |
| 21:45.11 | jimmyz | $150 |
| 21:45.27 | km- | jimmyz: ah, headset port isn't that important to me, so I'd take the $100 cisco 7905 |
| 21:45.27 | mexico | anyone know where I could get an inexpensive prepaid phonecard IVR / Billing system for Asterisk?? |
| 21:45.42 | jimmyz | nuphone.net i think |
| 21:46.00 | km- | jimmyz: besides, that phone says "Sip and h323 compatibility soon" |
| 21:46.04 | newcomer | km-: please do tell me, (i know.. lets put it that we use iax2 to trunk the calls to it .. and then say I have the PRI cards provided by digium .. etc .. |
| 21:46.04 | km- | nufone.net |
| 21:46.26 | km- | newcomer: if you're using iax2 trunking then you'll save bandwidth like mad |
| 21:46.51 | km- | I think jtodd found that 1 call was around 30kb with gsm, then add 15kbps for every extra call or something |
| 21:46.58 | km- | there's a post somewhere on asterisk-dev about it I think |
| 21:47.03 | km- | lemme find it |
| 21:47.19 | newcomer | km-: yes, but tell me, i'm trying to make calculations on this.. so what codec would I be using.. (i want the most calls as possible out of a 128kbps line) .. |
| 21:47.29 | km- | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2003-June/014788.html |
| 21:47.42 | newcomer | i see |
| 21:47.47 | bkw_ | haha you could use lpc10 |
| 21:47.49 | bkw_ | :P |
| 21:47.51 | deexm | newcomer |
| 21:47.55 | km- | with john todd's test |
| 21:47.55 | deexm | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+bandwidth+iax2 |
| 21:48.05 | mexico | Hello, does anyone know where I could get an inexpensive prepaid phonecard IVR / Billing system for Asterisk?? |
| 21:48.06 | km- | 1 gsm call was 35.4kbps |
| 21:48.10 | km- | 2 gsm calls was 50.2 |
| 21:48.10 | km- | so |
| 21:48.20 | km- | 3 gsm calls would be like 64kbps |
| 21:48.47 | km- | so then, lets say 7 calls on 128kbps if you have a synchronous link (i.e., not ADSL) |
| 21:49.08 | km- | but if you've got a T1 card |
| 21:49.22 | km- | what's the point in worrying about voip codecs and such? |
| 21:49.36 | km- | if you're on a local 100mbit lan you'll be able to have like 100,000 plus calls going on at once! :P |
| 21:50.36 | km- | brb wife says I gotta go set the table |
| 21:50.38 | km- | blah, marriage! |
| 21:51.41 | loko-moko | heh |
| 21:51.44 | newcomer | hehe yeah, km, thanks for this link, its very VERY useful bro |
| 21:51.50 | *** join/#asterisk MocMoc (~Moc@modemcable213.103-70-69.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 21:51.55 | MocMoc | wasn't GSM a 13kbits codec ? |
| 21:51.56 | MocMoc | + ip overhead ? |
| 21:51.58 | MocMoc | ha ok 15kbits for IAX itself + about 15kbits per call.. |
| 21:52.44 | jimmyz | is that in trunking mode? |
| 21:52.53 | jimmyz | doesn't trunking make a different |
| 21:52.58 | newcomer | yeah, I wanted more information on the overhead of an IP packet.. but this gives all of it .. so thats kind of very goood. |
| 21:53.20 | MocMoc | there is better codec |
| 21:53.27 | MocMoc | 8kbits codec, but cost $$$ |
| 21:54.03 | newcomer | I think thats G.729 .. thats the one .. |
| 21:54.08 | MocMoc | yep |
| 21:54.15 | MocMoc | 10$ per channel I think |
| 21:54.18 | MocMoc | on both side |
| 21:54.24 | MocMoc | (if both side is *) |
| 21:54.46 | h3x | GSM uses less bandwidth than g729 when you're using iax trunking |
| 21:54.51 | jimmyz | does it make a difference if bandwidth if running in trunking mode? |
| 21:54.52 | h3x | because of the frame size |
| 21:55.07 | bkw_ | jimmyz yes |
| 21:55.12 | h3x | according to possibly inaccurate benchmarks |
| 21:55.14 | jsmith | jimmyz: Yes... |
| 21:55.16 | bkw_ | trunking multiplexes the calls into the same stream |
| 21:55.24 | bkw_ | or thats hwo I understand it |
| 21:55.37 | h3x | haha |
| 21:55.38 | bkw_ | jsmith thats correct isn't it |
| 21:55.38 | jsmith | You're talking to the expert here... |
| 21:55.40 | h3x | all hail jsmith |
| 21:55.50 | jsmith | No, just send money... :-) |
| 21:55.58 | MocMoc | HEHE |
| 21:56.11 | bkw_ | it starts to interleave the streams into the same rtp stream right? |
| 21:56.11 | jimmyz | so are though numbers right if you running in iax2 trunking mode |
| 21:56.13 | jsmith | Average IP overhead on a call is *at least* as much as the actual payload |
| 21:56.20 | Moc | I got strange noise when a call is being Bridged using IAX2 :/ |
| 21:56.44 | jimmyz | iax2 is it encrypted or do you need to run it over a vpn |
| 21:56.55 | bkw_ | no encryption yet |
| 21:57.00 | bkw_ | YET is the keyword |
| 21:57.00 | jsmith | With IAX2 trunking, we wrap one IP header (simplifying here, but you'll understand) around the payloads of several concurrent calls |
| 21:57.01 | newcomer | hrmm .. i got a question .. what if .. if your using SIP, would the codec still matter ? |
| 21:57.05 | joesmith | how can you reboot a 7960 without turning it off and back on |
| 21:57.13 | jsmith | joesmith: * + 6 + settings |
| 21:57.20 | bkw_ | yes that |
| 21:57.21 | bkw_ | haha |
| 21:57.21 | newcomer | if so, how much bandwidth can that take if the trunk isn't IAX2 ? |
| 21:57.24 | Moc | someone is working on an encryption but it need FCC or who ever regulate Encryption in the US !! |
| 21:57.25 | jsmith | newcomer: Of course! |
| 21:57.26 | bkw_ | jsmith beat me |
| 21:57.47 | jsmith | bkw_: That's about the first time! |
| 21:57.48 | bkw_ | Moc no they don't regulate encryption |
| 21:57.49 | km- | crap my head is hurting all the sudden |
| 21:57.57 | bkw_ | the FCC doesn't regulate voip |
| 21:58.01 | bkw_ | not yet atleast |
| 21:58.05 | km- | oh soon |
| 21:58.06 | km- | :P |
| 21:58.15 | bkw_ | but still they can't dictate encryption |
| 21:58.23 | jimmyz | iax2 work with qos llq on a cisco router |
| 21:58.32 | km- | moc: were you using LPC10 compression on the call last night? |
| 21:58.37 | jimmyz | does it i mean |
| 21:58.43 | Moc | Heu no idea km- !!! |
| 21:58.50 | km- | moc: you sounded like steven hawking |
| 21:59.00 | newcomer | hrmm ok .. iax2 is also supported by cisco routers ? |
| 21:59.03 | Moc | lol |
| 21:59.05 | bkw_ | LPC10 is the shiznit |
| 21:59.19 | jsmith | newcomer: No! |
| 21:59.19 | bkw_ | newcomer nothing speaks iax2 |
| 21:59.26 | bkw_ | except * |
| 21:59.27 | Moc | I'll check again, I seem to have echo problem using NuFone .. but donno, I have to check that up |
| 21:59.32 | bkw_ | and a few softphones |
| 21:59.35 | jsmith | newcomer: But the router works with the QOS bits on the headers... |
| 21:59.48 | km- | it makes nufone sound better |
| 21:59.51 | km- | unless I'm downloading shit |
| 21:59.59 | km- | then it sucks no matter what |
| 22:00.02 | jsmith | newcomer: In other words, the cisco just sees IP packets... |
| 22:00.03 | Moc | newcomer: and upcoming IAXy device, and upcoming farfon phone |
| 22:00.03 | newcomer | i see, thats why i'm concerned, if I want somebody else to be able to make calls through our asterisk gateway, how would they be getting the call .. what protocol may they use .. ? |
| 22:00.23 | Moc | asterisk support SIP also and I guess other hxxx somethings. . |
| 22:00.42 | Moc | my phone is SIP actually, trunking thought nufone and office via IAX |
| 22:00.45 | jsmith | IAX/SIP/H323/MGCP/Skinny ... some are better supported than others... |
| 22:00.46 | km- | newcomer: asterisk supports pretty much every published voip protocol (and a few unpublished ones) |
| 22:01.01 | km- | newcomer: I have people jack in via sip softphones when they have to make phone calls all the time |
| 22:01.07 | jimmyz | jsmith: what do ya'll do for QOS for remote sites |
| 22:01.08 | km- | help save my pals money |
| 22:01.26 | newcomer | asterisk, yes, but would the bandwidth remain the same (given g729 codec is used ? ) |
| 22:01.37 | newcomer | yeah guys, thanks for helping me .. |
| 22:01.47 | newcomer | its clearing alot of clutter in my head |
| 22:01.48 | newcomer | hehe |
| 22:02.15 | Moc | ok im going home, maybe I could try it again with you km- and see.. going to play with it tonight, if brother dont come kidnap me.. |
| 22:02.15 | km- | if the remote clients used g729 as well then the bandwidth would only be a bit higher per call if they were using SIP versus IAX2 |
| 22:02.18 | Moc | bbl |
| 22:02.18 | bkw_ | km- what would you say about a global ODBC connection? |
| 22:02.32 | km- | bkw: I'd say "Bring It!" |
| 22:02.41 | bkw_ | then one config for each ODBC app? |
| 22:02.43 | bkw_ | odbc.conf? |
| 22:02.44 | km- | bkw: you mean, for everything -- extensions, sip.conf, iax.conf, all the conf files? |
| 22:02.56 | bkw_ | yes we can expand that into each part |
| 22:03.05 | boo | that asterisk-users troll made for some interesting posts |
| 22:03.21 | km- | bkw: yeah, odbc is hella useful |
| 22:03.21 | bkw_ | but we need to build a solid base for this |
| 22:03.24 | newcomer | km-: I see, so the bandwidth figures there (on the url) would not apply if somebody was using sip .. etc etc .. so the bandwidth than would be different .. |
| 22:03.31 | km- | newcomer: right |
| 22:03.39 | km- | newcomer: those numbers only apply if people are using IAX2 trunking |
| 22:04.21 | newcomer | km-: I see, so that means, id have phones-asterisk-internet-asterisk-pri ... so the bandwidth measurements shown.. are for this type of setup .. |
| 22:04.37 | bkw_ | yep |
| 22:04.40 | bkw_ | km- res_odbc.c? |
| 22:04.59 | km- | bkw_: that sounds about right |
| 22:05.20 | bkw_ | but then I have to rewrite cdr_odbc to use that.. but I need to figure out the best way to generalize this |
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| 22:05.34 | bkw_ | tholo boy what up |
| 22:05.41 | newcomer | so, what if, it was phone-h323/sip-internet-asterisk-pri ? I would like to find that out .. also, what protocols do voip service providers use to patch our calls to another provider ? what protocol or trunking method they use for their calls ? |
| 22:05.42 | bkw_ | boo I left the -users list |
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| 22:06.02 | bkw_ | newcomer trunking only works from * to * |
| 22:06.05 | bkw_ | using IAX2 only |
| 22:06.09 | jorgerai | hello |
| 22:06.14 | jorgerai | I need help |
| 22:06.14 | JerJer | bkw_: not necessarily |
| 22:06.24 | JerJer | cdr_odbc would be a plugin |
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| 22:06.37 | jorgerai | I trying to configurade the musiconhold |
| 22:06.40 | kapejod | cheerio |
| 22:06.45 | jorgerai | but it doesn't work |
| 22:07.00 | JerJer | the db abstraction layer could to things like authentication and extensions |
| 22:07.04 | jorgerai | my extension fxs of my asterisk is the ata 186 |
| 22:07.20 | jorgerai | is working or not? |
| 22:07.55 | jorgerai | it works or not? |
| 22:07.55 | newcomer | ahh i see, so if there are other ppl that want to user my asterisk box, they just have to be given somesort of account.. and they would have to connect to it using SIP or other means.. cool .. (correct ?) |
| 22:07.57 | jorgerai | sorry |
| 22:08.09 | km- | newcomer: correct. |
| 22:08.50 | hermie | DTMF A tones are 440 Hz? |
| 22:09.02 | kapejod | happy 1904 to everybody in CET+1 ;) |
| 22:09.13 | JerJer | lol |
| 22:09.48 | km- | hahaha |
| 22:10.02 | jorgerai | hello |
| 22:10.20 | newcomer | hehe yeah, that clears up alot of it |
| 22:10.42 | jsmith | (gdb) bt |
| 22:10.42 | jsmith | #0 0x0805e895 in ast_closestream () |
| 22:10.42 | jsmith | #1 0x0805d648 in ast_stopstream () |
| 22:10.42 | jsmith | #2 0x08057fcb in ast_hangup () |
| 22:10.42 | jsmith | #3 0x08064239 in ast_pbx_run () |
| 22:10.44 | jsmith | #4 0x41c78401 in ss_thread (data=0x8167b60) at chan_zap.c:4162 |
| 22:10.46 | jsmith | #5 0x4002d881 in pthread_start_thread () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 |
| 22:10.52 | newcomer | before somebody can use sip protocol, would they also have to know which codec to use or the SIP protocol itself uses a codec different from those that are mentioned ? |
| 22:10.54 | jsmith | Yuck... Asterisk crashes when I hang up on the first call... |
| 22:11.12 | km- | dinner, bbl |
| 22:11.43 | bkw_ | JerJer thats what I was thinking |
| 22:12.08 | bkw_ | JerJer If I can figure this out then we can abstract this in such a way its very flexable. |
| 22:12.13 | jorgerai | somebody know if the musichold works in ata 186? |
| 22:12.20 | bkw_ | jorgerai yes it does |
| 22:12.33 | jorgerai | but |
| 22:13.08 | JerJer | bkw_: well for authentication we add hooks into the asterisk config |
| 22:13.08 | jorgerai | well I make something wron |
| 22:13.34 | JerJer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.42 | suma | jorgerai: you need to disable VAD in ATA 186 i think, otherwise you need to talk something to make asterisk to talk to you |
| 22:13.43 | jorgerai | deja ver que estoy haciendo mal |
| 22:13.51 | jorgerai | oh ok |
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| 22:14.27 | newcomer | km-: did you get that last on ? |
| 22:14.34 | bkw_ | OMG JerJer I was just posting about that |
| 22:14.41 | bkw_ | example: |
| 22:14.41 | bkw_ | cfg = ast_load(config); |
| 22:14.41 | bkw_ | we have an #ifdef ODBC to use the odbc aware one. |
| 22:14.41 | bkw_ | But then again I'm not sure this is the best way. |
| 22:14.45 | jorgerai | I am going to enter in setup of ata |
| 22:15.12 | madman | Can anyone give me a quick way to install auto attendant prompt correctly |
| 22:15.47 | tim27 | madman what you want to know |
| 22:16.03 | bkw_ | tim27 kick ass you have those skillz now? |
| 22:16.09 | jorgerai | vad in ata 186 i don't see it |
| 22:16.13 | jorgerai | jajaj sorry |
| 22:16.26 | tim27 | bkw i have ha small auto attendant yes |
| 22:16.30 | madman | Well the default prompt after getting my analog card working plays "Congrats you have installed the Asterisk ...." |
| 22:16.34 | bkw_ | www.bkw.org/~brian/cisco/ata.html look at connect mode and audiomode |
| 22:16.37 | JerJer | bkw_: yes make it a compile time option to enable the complexity of the ODBC config abstraction |
| 22:16.45 | tim27 | km helped me |
| 22:17.02 | bkw_ | JerJer so the best way is to abstract config.c? |
| 22:17.08 | bkw_ | or is that a bad idea? |
| 22:17.16 | JerJer | one would still have to issue reloads |
| 22:17.26 | JerJer | which is normal |
| 22:17.34 | bkw_ | yes but we do strike a balance between reliability and sql |
| 22:17.58 | bkw_ | if db goes away the reloads will not go thru |
| 22:18.03 | JerJer | yeah |
| 22:18.15 | bkw_ | unlike if we do a full 100% sql |
| 22:18.15 | newcomer | hrmm..i was just reading, how does latency affect the compression or samples ? |
| 22:18.28 | bkw_ | newcomer it really doesn't unless its REALLY REALLY bad |
| 22:18.28 | madman | Basically demo-congrats |
| 22:18.28 | JerJer | they show up later |
| 22:18.43 | madman | any help |
| 22:18.47 | bkw_ | JerJer so a config-odbc.c would be a nice idea |
| 22:18.58 | JerJer | possibly |
| 22:19.20 | JerJer | it might be nice to use both |
| 22:19.31 | JerJer | have some static configs in the real /etc/asterisk files |
| 22:19.31 | bkw_ | yep you can pick and choose per app if we do it like that |
| 22:19.55 | newcomer | i'm figuring that 350ms is ok for a call (since ppl do it with satellites and they are wayyy off) |
| 22:19.56 | bkw_ | just include config.c or config-odbc.c in your app |
| 22:20.25 | JerJer | wouldn't need to do that |
| 22:20.37 | bkw_ | hrm |
| 22:20.41 | JerJer | just tweak how the routines in config.c get called |
| 22:20.47 | JerJer | like from asterisk.c (i think) |
| 22:20.48 | bkw_ | yep that |
| 22:21.13 | JerJer | if odbc is in there load that config, then the file based config, if any |
| 22:21.31 | madman | Anyone got help with prompts and setting up auto attendant |
| 22:21.50 | JerJer | madman: what are you having problems with? |
| 22:22.02 | JerJer | exten => s,1,Answer |
| 22:22.14 | JerJer | exten => s,2,Background,mainmenu |
| 22:22.22 | bkw_ | JerJer your right.. we just step in and replace that and boom it works |
| 22:22.34 | JerJer | exten 1,1,Dial,IAX2/joe@home/500 |
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| 22:27.36 | voidptr | 30 minutes |
| 22:27.44 | kapejod | 32:20 |
| 22:28.04 | voidptr | you are lagged |
| 22:28.04 | voidptr | :P |
| 22:28.11 | kapejod | :P |
| 22:30.25 | voidptr | it's time for a good drink |
| 22:30.34 | jimmyz | send me one |
| 22:31.19 | voidptr | oh yuck |
| 22:31.32 | jsmith | Anybody else having problems with todays CVS not using GSM sometimes?!? |
| 22:31.59 | voidptr | we'll be getting those new years swishes |
| 22:33.02 | jimmyz | jsmith: got a sec? |
| 22:33.11 | jsmith | jimmyz: Yeah... what's up?!? |
| 22:33.27 | jimmyz | do you have remote sites? if so what do you do for qos |
| 22:33.42 | jimmyz | with the iax2 trunking |
| 22:33.59 | jsmith | jimmyz: I control the routers on my end and on the remote end, so I make sure the routers use QOS to push IAX2 traffic before any other traffic |
| 22:34.12 | doughecka | [17:27:44] <kapejod> 32:20 |
| 22:34.15 | jsmith | jimmyz: Does that makes sense? |
| 22:34.27 | jimmyz | are you using llq on the routers for the qos |
| 22:34.48 | jsmith | jimmyz: To be honest, I didn't set it up on the routers... but that would be my suspicion... |
| 22:34.51 | suma | friends, wishing you all a happy new year, enjoy calling with asterisk in the future |
| 22:35.11 | jimmyz | ok thanks that is what i'm looking at doing |
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| 22:42.26 | kapejod | hmm....the gsm net in berlin is already fucked up by now |
| 22:43.03 | doughecka | lol |
| 22:43.53 | sobol | in Police it's ok |
| 22:46.58 | kapejod | 13 minutes to go |
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| 22:53.35 | doughecka | http://h71036.www7.hp.com/hho/cache/162-0-0-39-121.aspx |
| 22:53.36 | doughecka | ... |
| 22:54.06 | denon | what the .. |
| 22:54.29 | bkw_ | FUCK |
| 22:54.47 | denon | no thanks, my wife's at home. |
| 22:54.55 | bkw_ | I cracked the under thing on my bike |
| 22:54.58 | bkw_ | stupid plastic thing |
| 22:55.08 | bkw_ | its a small crack but I bet that part costs ALOT of money to replace |
| 22:55.15 | doughecka | whats it do |
| 22:55.19 | doughecka | hold gas in? |
| 22:55.23 | bkw_ | nope |
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| 22:55.33 | bkw_ | its just cosmetic but its gonna look stupid without it |
| 22:55.38 | bkw_ | haha |
| 22:55.41 | bkw_ | I think I will do that |
| 22:55.45 | doughecka | hahaha |
| 22:56.34 | denon | super glue it and sell it |
| 22:56.36 | denon | fast |
| 22:56.37 | denon | as-is |
| 22:56.38 | denon | :) |
| 22:56.53 | bkw_ | haha |
| 22:57.01 | bkw_ | I'm really gonna sell it |
| 22:57.14 | denon | then you'll have lotsa money to buy a * server for dev |
| 22:57.20 | bkw_ | haha no |
| 22:57.22 | bkw_ | more like buy a car |
| 22:57.24 | bkw_ | haha |
| 22:57.26 | doughecka | bah |
| 22:57.28 | doughecka | who needs cars |
| 22:57.31 | denon | nah get a bus pass and a * server |
| 22:57.37 | bkw_ | we have no bus here |
| 22:57.43 | denon | taxi |
| 22:57.48 | denon | train |
| 22:57.48 | bkw_ | hahaha you funny |
| 22:57.48 | doughecka | wanna loose weight? |
| 22:57.49 | denon | whatever |
| 22:57.49 | doughecka | walk? |
| 22:57.52 | doughecka | run! |
| 22:57.56 | denon | yeah .. get a bicycle |
| 22:58.06 | bkw_ | I really don't need one but it would be nice |
| 22:58.17 | denon | get a bike |
| 22:58.21 | denon | or make friends with someone who has a car |
| 22:58.27 | denon | and leeeeech |
| 22:58.27 | Kilroy2k | http://www.engrish.com/recent_detail.php?imagename=santa-please-stop.jpg&category=Signs/Posters&date=2003-12-19 |
| 22:58.52 | doughecka | ghaghagaha |
| 22:59.00 | ScaredyCat | happy new year you bollok heads |
| 22:59.05 | ScaredyCat | :D |
| 22:59.35 | *** join/#asterisk stan (stan@81.168.99.134) |
| 23:00.01 | kapejod | happy new year to everybody in CET :-) |
| 23:00.50 | km- | 6 hours to 2004! |
| 23:01.09 | kapejod | ScaredyCat: cheers :) |
| 23:01.32 | ScaredyCat | lets hope this one aint as crap as the last |
| 23:01.47 | km- | amen |
| 23:01.51 | Chaosdefiasco | HAPPY NEW YEAR AHOLES :d |
| 23:01.54 | kapejod | let's hope for a h.323-free 2004 ;) |
| 23:01.56 | Chaosdefiasco | congrats everyone |
| 23:01.57 | Chaosdefiasco | ;) |
| 23:02.01 | jsmith | kapejod: Right! |
| 23:02.13 | Chaosdefiasco | kapejod:/me signs |
| 23:02.20 | jsmith | kapejod: Should I start using h.2004? |
| 23:02.35 | kapejod | jsmith: if your bios supports it ;) |
| 23:03.22 | data[coding] | haha |
| 23:03.28 | data[coding] | its 11pm |
| 23:03.31 | data[coding] | on newyears eve |
| 23:03.40 | data[coding] | and the major cable provider in the uk just blew their network up |
| 23:03.55 | doughecka | hahaa |
| 23:03.58 | data[coding] | everyones cable tv just got cut off :) |
| 23:04.22 | data[coding] | and their phonesystems buggered as everyones ddosing the switchboard :) |
| 23:04.39 | Chaosdefiasco | how do u spread a cable tv |
| 23:04.43 | Chaosdefiasco | thru utp :P |
| 23:04.57 | bkw_ | multicast? |
| 23:05.05 | Chaosdefiasco | if yes, i think utp cat 5 dies after every 260feet, it needs repeaters |
| 23:05.07 | Chaosdefiasco | right! |
| 23:05.12 | *** join/#asterisk andu (~andu@h68-147-131-15.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 23:05.20 | Chaosdefiasco | why multicast? it aint video |
| 23:05.25 | hermie | Chaosdefisaso: with ethernet only |
| 23:05.27 | andu | hello |
| 23:05.29 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:05.36 | data[coding] | nah its coax |
| 23:05.49 | Chaosdefiasco | coax looses lot of signal |
| 23:05.53 | data[coding] | yup |
| 23:06.01 | doughecka | Add barcode capabilities to your existing HP LaserJet printers, andto your existing HP LaserJet printers, and instantly integrate barcodes into normal printing. |
| 23:06.03 | Chaosdefiasco | my grandfather used to run cable on coax |
| 23:06.11 | doughecka | do I see something twice? |
| 23:06.21 | km- | hmm |
| 23:06.33 | km- | barcode++ |
| 23:06.50 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:07.51 | atacomm | i'll be here until 10 atleast |
| 23:07.56 | voidptr | whiiii |
| 23:08.00 | voidptr | happy new year |
| 23:08.07 | doughecka | hire me |
| 23:08.11 | km- | err, ilbc |
| 23:08.12 | km- | not gsm |
| 23:08.15 | voidptr | alll cet people :D |
| 23:08.22 | sobol | hihihi |
| 23:08.30 | doughecka | ~45*8 |
| 23:08.31 | | 360 |
| 23:08.36 | doughecka | ehm |
| 23:08.39 | doughecka | ~45/8 |
| 23:08.41 | | 5.625 |
| 23:08.44 | doughecka | not bad |
| 23:08.46 | doughecka | dialup speeed |
| 23:09.02 | kapejod | voidptr: happy 1904 |
| 23:09.09 | voidptr | :D |
| 23:09.15 | doughecka | nono |
| 23:09.18 | doughecka | happy 1970! |
| 23:09.26 | sobol | kapejod: happy XXIV |
| 23:09.30 | data[coding] | 45kbps? |
| 23:09.46 | voidptr | happy new year ScaredyCat and sobol :) |
| 23:09.48 | kapejod | sobol: whatever :) |
| 23:09.52 | km- | data: yeah.. |
| 23:09.55 | data[coding] | happy moo year |
| 23:10.10 | voidptr | gonna watch some fireworks |
| 23:10.11 | kapejod | happy new * :) |
| 23:10.19 | ScaredyCat | happy new year voidptr |
| 23:10.20 | voidptr | neighbours really invested this year |
| 23:10.21 | voidptr | :D |
| 23:10.21 | km- | scaredycat: yeah, brian did the list a favor and unsubscribed :) |
| 23:10.25 | voidptr | bbl |
| 23:10.30 | bkw_ | km- haha what? |
| 23:10.38 | km- | bkw: <duck> |
| 23:10.39 | bkw_ | no I did myself a favor |
| 23:10.41 | km- | :P |
| 23:10.45 | bkw_ | ok margaritaville time |
| 23:10.50 | km- | amen |
| 23:10.56 | km- | kristy said if she drinks she's going to bed at 9 |
| 23:11.03 | km- | so we're holding off the drinking till 11:59 |
| 23:11.09 | km- | at which point I'll have her down a bottle of tequila! |
| 23:12.05 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:13.29 | *** join/#asterisk zwi (~zwi@ewa-denver.com) |
| 23:13.52 | ScaredyCat | km-: you think he'll to the same for us here too ;) |
| 23:17.59 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPowr_ (~werecat@ip68-107-251-114.no.no.cox.net) |
| 23:21.11 | km- | hehehehe |
| 23:21.23 | km- | she'll drink if I tell her to dammit! :P |
| 23:21.39 | bkw_ | haha |
| 23:24.03 | bkw_ | haha |
| 23:24.08 | bkw_ | I unsubscribed |
| 23:24.11 | bkw_ | tis just bullshit |
| 23:24.36 | tclark | where you gonna go for a good laugh now :) |
| 23:24.39 | *** join/#asterisk darren (~darren@hewes.dazza.org) |
| 23:24.54 | bkw_ | haha |
| 23:25.02 | bkw_ | ya I got called an asshole or whas it prick |
| 23:25.06 | bkw_ | er was it prick |
| 23:25.08 | bkw_ | ya prick |
| 23:25.09 | bkw_ | thats it |
| 23:25.16 | bkw_ | those people are toooooo sensitive |
| 23:25.19 | bkw_ | fuck em |
| 23:25.23 | km- | brian, dude, he's just calling it how he sees it |
| 23:25.24 | km- | :P |
| 23:25.32 | bkw_ | yep |
| 23:25.38 | bkw_ | and I see it as funny too |
| 23:35.56 | macTijn | whee |
| 23:36.00 | macTijn | 2004 here |
| 23:36.01 | macTijn | :) |
| 23:36.16 | macTijn | for 36 minutes already |
| 23:36.33 | voidptr | happy ny macTijn ;) |
| 23:36.37 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (~roy@19.80-203-29.nextgentel.com) |
| 23:36.51 | kapejod | RoyK: happy new year :) |
| 23:37.30 | macTijn | hny everyone :) |
| 23:37.47 | ScaredyCat | bag humbug |
| 23:37.59 | ScaredyCat | errm |
| 23:38.03 | ScaredyCat | bah humbug |
| 23:38.08 | kapejod | ~lart RoyK |
| 23:38.12 | kapejod | :) |
| 23:38.44 | RoyK | kapejod: greets :) |
| 23:38.47 | RoyK | kapejod: prost! |
| 23:38.55 | ScaredyCat | ~x en es Happy New Year |
| 23:38.59 | kapejod | RoyK: skol! |
| 23:39.08 | ScaredyCat | ~x en fr Happy New Year |
| 23:39.15 | voidptr | bonne annee |
| 23:39.33 | km- | that's weird |
| 23:39.36 | ScaredyCat | ~x en nl Happy New Year |
| 23:39.38 | km- | I think jtodd's numbers are wrong |
| 23:39.40 | macTijn | gelukkig nieuw jaar! |
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| 23:39.45 | voidptr | :) |
| 23:39.47 | ScaredyCat | :) |
| 23:39.58 | voidptr | jbot is shit ;) |
| 23:39.59 | | voidptr: wish i knew |
| 23:40.05 | ScaredyCat | lol |
| 23:40.05 | sobol | ahaha how nice it is to be drunk |
| 23:40.06 | kapejod | ~x en klingon Happy new year |
| 23:40.09 | panny-htlnks-mx | hey chaps :) |
| 23:40.20 | ScaredyCat | kslf dsfsdf fdsd [aaaaaaaaaaaaahh |
| 23:40.21 | km- | hehe |
| 23:40.22 | panny-htlnks-mx | happy new year :) (almost) |
| 23:40.33 | macTijn | panny: uk ? |
| 23:40.37 | voidptr | yeh |
| 23:40.38 | panny-htlnks-mx | yup :) |
| 23:40.45 | macTijn | hehe |
| 23:40.47 | km- | what's the difference between restart gracefully and restart when convenient? |
| 23:40.58 | sobol | km-: in the name |
| 23:40.59 | ScaredyCat | km- that cou;ld be never |
| 23:41.06 | panny-htlnks-mx | just had a mad idea, why not call a bunch of people at the same time and send them all to a conference |
| 23:41.12 | panny-htlnks-mx | at midnight |
| 23:41.15 | macTijn | heh |
| 23:41.18 | kapejod | restart gracefully will accept no new channels |
| 23:41.19 | panny-htlnks-mx | anyone know how i could do it ? |
| 23:41.20 | macTijn | it's past midnight here |
| 23:41.24 | km- | kapejod: ah, awesome |
| 23:41.31 | macTijn | you need a nice set of switches for that |
| 23:41.43 | macTijn | I'm sure the free services can't handle it :) |
| 23:41.48 | ScaredyCat | ys, and restart when conv.. will do it when there are not cans in use |
| 23:41.55 | km- | gotcha! |
| 23:42.01 | km- | restart gracefully sounds like what I want |
| 23:42.17 | macTijn | next year I can sponsor 240 channels for incoming calls :) |
| 23:42.36 | ScaredyCat | just switch the machine off kapejod |
| 23:42.38 | ScaredyCat | :) |
| 23:42.38 | macTijn | and hopefully some internet voip/sip/aix nodes |
| 23:42.53 | macTijn | for .be/.nl |
| 23:42.57 | kapejod | ScaredyCat: i am too lazy to walk to the box |
| 23:43.16 | macTijn | kapejod: ssh root@host 'poweroff' |
| 23:43.17 | km- | time for some partying, ttyl! |
| 23:43.23 | sobol | ScaredyCat: he is not able to cope with that task right now :) |
| 23:43.24 | macTijn | later km- |
| 23:43.37 | kapejod | macTijn: but then i would have to walk to the box to start it again... |
| 23:43.39 | ScaredyCat | kapejod: just throw the main switch in your house then |
| 23:43.50 | voidptr | insmod panic.o |
| 23:44.01 | voidptr | gonna visit some friends |
| 23:44.04 | voidptr | cya in the morning |
| 23:44.08 | macTijn | kape: then s/poweroff/reboot/ |
| 23:44.09 | kapejod | cu voidptr |
| 23:44.16 | ScaredyCat | pah wussy voidptr ;) |
| 23:44.43 | voidptr | ;) |
| 23:44.47 | tim27 | do ulaw is better than gsm ??? |
| 23:44.54 | ScaredyCat | yes |
| 23:44.56 | kapejod | tim27: of course :) |
| 23:44.59 | macTijn | I bet his 'friends' are his left and right palm ;) (joke!) |
| 23:44.59 | ScaredyCat | ulaw is king |
| 23:45.05 | ScaredyCat | lol |
| 23:45.08 | kapejod | although alaw is even better than ulaw |
| 23:45.12 | kapejod | :) |
| 23:45.25 | macTijn | hmm |
| 23:45.31 | ScaredyCat | lol |
| 23:45.35 | macTijn | we're a bunch of nerds |
| 23:45.36 | tim27 | so that why voicepulse sounded crapy when it connected in gsm ??? |
| 23:45.43 | ScaredyCat | kapejod: that's a geographiocal thing |
| 23:45.55 | kapejod | ScaredyCat: no :P |
| 23:46.05 | macTijn | hmm |
| 23:46.11 | ScaredyCat | well it is as far as 'they' are concerned :D |
| 23:46.16 | tim27 | i putted disallow=all allow=ulaw and it better now |
| 23:46.37 | kapejod | ScaredyCat: "they" should switch to alaw too ;) |
| 23:46.37 | macTijn | speex? |
| 23:46.46 | kapejod | iLBC |
| 23:46.48 | macTijn | yeah |
| 23:46.50 | macTijn | that one |
| 23:46.56 | macTijn | messes up my sound terribly |
| 23:47.02 | ScaredyCat | kapejod: this is true.... but try telling them that |
| 23:47.11 | macTijn | like I'm listening to a raw stream |
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| 23:47.37 | tim27 | lol |
| 23:47.42 | tim27 | dont worry be happy |
| 23:47.43 | tim27 | lol |
| 23:47.44 | bkw_ | ulaw is better |
| 23:47.47 | bkw_ | haha |
| 23:47.52 | bkw_ | my cisco book says so |
| 23:47.54 | bkw_ | haha |
| 23:47.54 | macTijn | bkw: word :) |
| 23:48.06 | kapejod | bkw_: you are right ulaw is slightly better |
| 23:48.10 | macTijn | btw |
| 23:48.14 | kapejod | compared to GSM :P |
| 23:48.27 | ScaredyCat | LOL |
| 23:48.28 | bkw_ | haha |
| 23:48.31 | macTijn | the sample codecs contain a so called 'vox' decoder |
| 23:48.36 | macTijn | that's broken. |
| 23:48.53 | macTijn | and none of the samples work :( |
| 23:48.55 | bkw_ | sox can help |
| 23:48.56 | tim27 | i think i will but this song dont worry be happy on my music on hold list |
| 23:49.05 | bkw_ | tim27 do it.. FUCK RIAA!!! |
| 23:49.07 | bkw_ | www.bkw.org |
| 23:49.09 | bkw_ | read the first post |
| 23:49.10 | kapejod | hehe |
| 23:49.12 | bkw_ | and watch the video |
| 23:50.03 | bkw_ | tim27 your not in the US so RIAA isn't on your list |
| 23:50.09 | bkw_ | ~google fuck riaa |
| 23:50.27 | bkw_ | woop wooop woooop |
| 23:50.33 | bkw_ | ~google fuck sco |
| 23:50.37 | ScaredyCat | I wonder if tim27 is a dyslexic englishman? |
| 23:50.43 | kapejod | cool :) |
| 23:50.49 | bkw_ | ScaredyCat you mean canadian? |
| 23:50.50 | tim27 | i dont follow |
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| 23:50.55 | ScaredyCat | shouldn;t that be : |
| 23:50.58 | ScaredyCat | fuck the IRA |
| 23:51.08 | bkw_ | no FUCK THE IRS |
| 23:51.11 | bkw_ | FUCK BUSH |
| 23:51.21 | tim27 | IRA IRS ??? |
| 23:51.38 | ScaredyCat | you've never heard of the IRA ? |
| 23:51.40 | macTijn | fuck [a-zA-Z0-9-] |
| 23:51.43 | macTijn | uh |
| 23:51.45 | macTijn | fuck [a-zA-Z0-9-]* |
| 23:51.46 | macTijn | :) |
| 23:51.47 | macTijn | there |
| 23:51.49 | kapejod | ScaredyCat: he's ulaw ;) |
| 23:52.00 | bkw_ | ulaw rocks |
| 23:52.13 | bkw_ | their isn't much diffrence between the two |
| 23:52.19 | bkw_ | just those euro's like to do things diffrent |
| 23:52.36 | ScaredyCat | lol kapejod |
| 23:53.15 | ScaredyCat | well E1 > T1 so alaw must be > ulaw ... |
| 23:53.16 | ScaredyCat | :D |
| 23:53.25 | bkw_ | nope |
| 23:53.39 | kapejod | my PRI is bigger than yours :P |
| 23:53.41 | bkw_ | haha |
| 23:53.42 | tyu | Can someone help me? I a new to Linux and Asterisk. Can I install with any dialogic card and with little linux experience? |
| 23:53.44 | bkw_ | lets measure |
| 23:53.56 | bkw_ | tyu you have to pay for dialogic drivers |
| 23:54.08 | ScaredyCat | bkw_: need a magnifying glass? |
| 23:54.09 | kapejod | ~lart dialogic |
| 23:54.14 | kapejod | :) |
| 23:54.26 | bkw_ | ScaredyCat I have talked to you before.. you sound GAY! |
| 23:54.31 | bkw_ | haha |
| 23:54.34 | kapejod | i thought they already use outlook express.... |
| 23:54.51 | macTijn | bkw: wearing your funny hat tonight? |
| 23:54.52 | bkw_ | lookout express |
| 23:54.53 | ScaredyCat | bkw_: this is sadly true... |
| 23:55.01 | bkw_ | ScaredyCat do you get that alog? |
| 23:55.01 | tyu | bkw, who would I pay for the drivers/ |
| 23:55.03 | bkw_ | er alot? |
| 23:55.29 | bkw_ | ScaredyCat I love your accent... its better than this HICK ASS REDNECK accent I have |
| 23:55.29 | ScaredyCat | yeas, almost as much as driving a pickup into a house... |
| 23:55.37 | bkw_ | hahahahahahhahahah |
| 23:56.52 | bkw_ | ScaredyCat and you can take the hat off yoru mini-me also.. I think prolonged exposure to laytex it bad! |
| 23:57.22 | ScaredyCat | well, I guess you'd be the one to know, |
| 23:57.33 | ScaredyCat | off |
| 23:57.34 | macTijn | ok |
| 23:57.40 | macTijn | enought with the newyear crap |
| 23:57.40 | tim27 | to everybody who may concern i'M A DYSLEXIC frenchman you try to speak english |
| 23:58.01 | bkw_ | tim27 haha |
| 23:58.40 | tim27 | hhaahhaha |
| 23:58.41 | ScaredyCat | ahhh a Canadian... |
| 23:58.52 | ScaredyCat | C eh N eh D eh |
| 23:58.57 | data[coding] | woohoo |
| 23:58.59 | data[coding] | 50 SECS |
| 23:59.13 | tim27 | yes Canadian we made your beef sick |
| 23:59.17 | kapejod | lol |
| 23:59.25 | jsmith | ScaredyCat: That's my joke! |
| 23:59.29 | ScaredyCat | :D |
| 23:59.29 | kapejod | i guess you made ours sick before ;) |
| 23:59.56 | bkw_ | beef is sick anyway |
| 23:59.58 | sobol | blame Canada..... |
