| 00:00.07 | {^DaNi^} | brif8: a get them for our usual provider for cisco equipment in spain for 110 ? + - |
| 00:00.47 | brif8 | thanks |
| 00:00.47 | {^DaNi^} | with support for 3 years, sip license but without power adapter |
| 00:01.20 | ManxPower | {^DaNi^}, US$110.00??? Well the exchange rate is really helping |
| 00:01.21 | {^DaNi^} | i think that in usa will be more cheap |
| 00:01.57 | ManxPower | The cheapest I've seen Cisco 7905G is $168 (I think with a power adapter) |
| 00:02.03 | {^DaNi^} | i have the $ at 0.75 ? |
| 00:02.11 | {^DaNi^} | + - |
| 00:02.20 | {^DaNi^} | every week the price change |
| 00:02.20 | TestMasTer | Geeze its a pain in the nuts Creating a advance GUI |
| 00:02.38 | ManxPower | Maybe I will have to not go to Europe this summer. |
| 00:02.56 | brif8 | ManxPower: where?? |
| 00:03.08 | ManxPower | brif8, Where for the Cisco 7905G? |
| 00:03.13 | brif8 | yes |
| 00:03.25 | Connor | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.48 | brif8 | I have only found the 7905G for $210+ |
| 00:04.03 | ManxPower | http://www.ibuyernet.com/prod~id~333340~CISCO_CP-7905=.html |
| 00:04.03 | ManxPower | http://www.microstorm.com/products/partinfo-id-719343.html |
| 00:04.21 | ManxPower | I don't know if it comes with a SIP license or not. |
| 00:04.29 | brif8 | thanks will check it out |
| 00:04.36 | ManxPower | Connor: I've not done call forwarding yet. |
| 00:04.46 | ManxPower | Well, not anymore, actually. |
| 00:05.10 | ManxPower | I had it set up at one point. On that server users never used the feature so I removed it when I rewrote the macros. |
| 00:05.13 | Connor | Manx: I've got one, but, Heck, if the phone can do it, why bother... I just wanna give them a # they can forward to for voicemail.. |
| 00:05.22 | {^DaNi^} | sip and call manager license cost the same |
| 00:05.55 | ManxPower | {^DaNi^}, Do you get your phones from a USA company or a local company? |
| 00:10.16 | {^DaNi^} | ManxPower: local company if i buy to usa i pay more tax |
| 00:11.21 | Markit | what should I put in zaptel.conf file for my TDM400P, 4 ports? I've opened that file, but it's very different from the examples I've seen so far... |
| 00:11.34 | ManxPower | Markit, Try my samples |
| 00:11.36 | ManxPower | Go to http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation and look at the "Unofficial Links" section also see http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk also see my site at http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/ |
| 00:13.27 | Connor | I can't recall, does the phone company's let you call forward to a LD # ? |
| 00:13.43 | {^DaNi^} | there is some cisco hardware manufacture in europe |
| 00:13.55 | Markit | ManxPower: in your site, there is a zapata.conf sample, not a zaptel one |
| 00:14.06 | brif8 | fnkmaster: which IP phone do you use/recommend? |
| 00:14.34 | ManxPower | Markit, Ah. sorry. |
| 00:14.45 | ManxPower | Markit, I'll dump one in the downloads dir |
| 00:14.58 | Markit | ManxPower: right now? |
| 00:15.12 | fnkmaster | brif8: I'm currently using the Cisco 7960. |
| 00:15.39 | brif8 | fnkmaster: what did you pay for them? best I could find was +/- $390 |
| 00:16.18 | ManxPower | Markit, It's there now. Port 1 is an X100P, ports 2 - 3 are TDM200B |
| 00:16.34 | fnkmaster | brif8: well these were used, for 270 each. Check out eBay, there are lots of new and gently used 7960s up frequently. |
| 00:16.42 | ManxPower | Connor: Yes, it does, but you pay for the LD call everytime a call is forwarded. |
| 00:16.50 | Markit | ManxPower: did you had a loot at the "skeleton" that comes with zaptel? it's really scaring... ;) |
| 00:17.13 | ManxPower | Markit, The complicated exmaple files are the entire reason I have sample configs on my web site. |
| 00:17.40 | Markit | ManxPower: LOL |
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| 00:18.14 | fnkmaster | a lot of 10 new 7960s for 3400 bucks, and that's high. I've seen the same go for closer to 3000. |
| 00:18.21 | brif8 | fnkmaster: does e-bay have new ones, I'm warey of used (problems) |
| 00:18.40 | fnkmaster | yah, there are definitely NIB units on eBay |
| 00:19.23 | ManxPower | NIB? |
| 00:19.39 | twisted | nib = nerds in black |
| 00:19.41 | fnkmaster | NIB==new in box |
| 00:19.45 | ManxPower | Ah |
| 00:20.31 | jjhall | Question for the group. Does the Digium X100P support caller ID sent from the POTS provider? |
| 00:21.11 | fnkmaster | robl^: how the hell didja do that? |
| 00:21.17 | brif8 | robl^ where? |
| 00:21.20 | fnkmaster | gimme gimme |
| 00:21.26 | ManxPower | jjhall, Yes, for most countries, except the UK and former UK colinies. |
| 00:21.26 | brif8 | me too |
| 00:21.50 | robl^ | direct form Cisco. I can't get anymore for that cost. It's an employee discount purchase |
| 00:21.55 | fnkmaster | damn |
| 00:22.01 | jjhall | ManxPower: OK, thanks. I am looking at setting up Asterisk, but that is something that is important to me. |
| 00:22.03 | twisted | hrmm |
| 00:22.13 | ManxPower | jjhall, Where are you located? |
| 00:22.18 | jjhall | Idaho in the US |
| 00:22.24 | twisted | hey robl, i'll give ya 200 for one complete set :P |
| 00:22.34 | fnkmaster | I'll give you 220 |
| 00:22.53 | robl^ | do were have $240? |
| 00:22.56 | fnkmaster | hehe |
| 00:22.58 | bkw_ | haha |
| 00:22.59 | ManxPower | jjhall, I've heard a few issues with non-telco lines (like AT&T telephone over Cable) and stuff like that, but not usually. |
| 00:23.02 | bkw_ | NEVER |
| 00:24.01 | ManxPower | I would like a Cisco 7940/7960 but I love my VTech 2.4Ghz 2-line, 2-handset phone WAY too much. |
| 00:24.05 | robl^ | I have an issuse with caller ID on vonage. for some reason, they prefix and postfix the caller ID name with extra quote marks |
| 00:24.25 | ManxPower | robl^, That would fall under "non-telco lines" |
| 00:24.32 | robl^ | yeah |
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| 00:24.39 | jjhall | ManxPower: OK. I am looking at a standard POTS line from Qwest (or QWorst as I like to call them.) Any advantage (other than support) to buying one directly from Digium vs. a no-name on eBay for less than 1/3 the price? I am working on a small home system, not a corporate system. |
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| 00:25.27 | twisted | jjhall: yeah, there is an advantage... helping secure the future of asterisk and low priced telco products ;) |
| 00:25.29 | ManxPower | jjhall, If you buy a clone you take the risk that it won't work, and if you have trouble pretty much anyone here and on the mailing list will treat you like shit and tell you to buy a Digium card. |
| 00:25.30 | brif8 | robl^: seeing you must work for cisco, where's the best place to them bulk? ( I contacted the local cisco office, they put me onto a distributorm who wanted close to 380 for a 7960) ? |
| 00:25.35 | fnkmaster | jjhall: support is the only real difference. Also, those enterprising fellows on eBay are taking 8 dollar winmodems and selling them for 30. |
| 00:26.20 | jjhall | fnkmaster: Is the digium card basically a winmodem? |
| 00:26.30 | file[bed] | yes |
| 00:26.31 | robl^ | brif8, I don't work for Cisco.. but a very close friend work for them |
| 00:26.32 | ManxPower | jjhall, Even if you want to buy the clones, get a real X100P as your first card. |
| 00:26.58 | fnkmaster | jjhall: more or less. Search around through the mailing list archive, it's discussed several times. |
| 00:26.58 | brif8 | i c |
| 00:27.22 | jjhall | My whole thing is I want to do this as cheap as possible to start with. Then as my needs (and knowledge) grow, then I would like to expand with higher quality equipment. |
| 00:27.27 | robl^ | jjhall, you have to modify the source code of Asterisk to get it to see the "cheap clones". |
| 00:28.01 | robl^ | jjhall, you can start off with NO hardware.. just do softphones and iaxtel or fwd |
| 00:28.20 | ManxPower | jjhall, For your first card get an X100P. You get support from the community, you support Digium and the Asterisk developement and you can learn using a SUPPORTED card. Then if you want more cards decide if you want to try the clones or not. |
| 00:29.04 | jjhall | robl: That is actually what I am planning on doing over the next week or two. I am having problems getting MySQL working on my "server." Once I have that set up, Asterisk is my next step. |
| 00:29.05 | ManxPower | At this point *I* would buy clone cards since I'm familiar with Asterisk, but I would only do so for non-commercial projects. |
| 00:29.20 | robl^ | jjhall, I suggest a developers kit. You can get tdm400p and x101p for less than $200, lots of uspport. |
| 00:29.32 | ManxPower | And I have like 4 X100P cards, only two of which are in use. |
| 00:29.51 | jjhall | What is the tdm400p? Is that an "extension" card? Sorry, but the technical term evades my memory. |
| 00:30.18 | robl^ | jjhall, the tdm400p allows you to plug in phones (extensions) |
| 00:30.31 | robl^ | it can alloow up to 4 phones on one card |
| 00:30.47 | ManxPower | jjhall, The TDM400P is a 4 port card that takes modules for connecting to telephones. The TDM10B is the TDM400P + 1 port daughter card, the TDM200B is the TDM400P with 2 x 1 port daughter cards, etc. |
| 00:31.36 | ManxPower | The dev kit (lite?) is actually an X101P + a TDM10B (TDM400P + 1 daughter card) |
| 00:32.23 | tz-afk | yup the dev kit lite rocks |
| 00:32.24 | robl^ | the lite has a USB FXO adapter.. which kinda sucks (in my opinion) |
| 00:32.31 | tz-afk | the X101P sucks ass but anyway |
| 00:32.37 | tz-afk | ah |
| 00:32.37 | tz-afk | sorry |
| 00:32.42 | tz-afk | dev kit is what I have then |
| 00:32.42 | ManxPower | I must be thinking of the DEV Kit TDM then |
| 00:32.43 | Markit | any (clone or not) card that is like a sort of "TDM800P" 8 extensions per card? |
| 00:32.47 | jjhall | I don't have USB on the system I an planning on using so I would be SOL there too. LOL |
| 00:32.49 | tz-afk | and two T100Ps and two TE405Ps heh |
| 00:32.54 | ManxPower | Markit, No. |
| 00:33.13 | tz-afk | Markit: no, use two TDM400Ps or start looking at a T100P+channel bank |
| 00:33.14 | ManxPower | jjhall, USB VoIP devices don't work well anyway. |
| 00:33.49 | jjhall | I used to have an Actiontek Internet Phone Wizard a couple of years ago, and I ended up selling it on eBay because I wasn't very happy with it. |
| 00:33.52 | Markit | thanks ManxPower for your help, see you, bye bye you all |
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| 00:33.57 | fnkmaster | USB VoIP stuff just has this feeling of absolute cheesiness about it |
| 00:34.37 | fnkmaster | I just don't think your USB port is the right place for a VoIP stream to be coming in. |
| 00:34.54 | tzanger | 12mbit, why not |
| 00:34.56 | newmember | can I use astrisk as a calling card IVR system? |
| 00:34.57 | ManxPower | fnkmaster, It made sense before the TDM400P card came out. |
| 00:35.02 | brif8 | anyone used the Avaya 4620SW IP Phone, looks stylish too (http://www1.avaya.com/enterprise/telephones/4600/) |
| 00:35.12 | ManxPower | newmember, Yes, but it will require a fair amount of coding on your part. |
| 00:35.19 | Corydon76-home | I personally don't think USB is where keyboard or mouse output ought to be coming in, but hey, what do I know? |
| 00:35.32 | bkw_ | hehe |
| 00:35.37 | bkw_ | i'm all with ya on that one |
| 00:35.40 | newmember | Corydon76-home: not much I guess |
| 00:35.43 | jjhall | Basically, I am going to have a setup with soft phones (to start with,) one POTS line, and FWD numbers. The system I am planning on using is an old dual Pentium Pro 200 system. |
| 00:35.44 | fnkmaster | USB mice rock... and USB keyboards. I hate the PS/2 interface. |
| 00:35.46 | Damin | Hmm.. |
| 00:36.00 | ManxPower | jjhall, Keep in mind that all SoftPhones suck. |
| 00:36.02 | bkw_ | I can use USB but I refuse to do that and burn a USB port for a keyboard |
| 00:36.03 | Damin | Anyone want to hepl me debug some C code? |
| 00:36.06 | fnkmaster | sweet, good ole PPro. Best processor Intel ever made. |
| 00:36.11 | ManxPower | jjhall, Using a softphone with Asterisk is NOTHING like using a real phone |
| 00:36.13 | bkw_ | ManxPower XPro is pretty good |
| 00:36.25 | robl^ | USB is useful only for usb flash cards and webcams. :) |
| 00:36.30 | tzanger | fnkmaster: amen to that |
| 00:36.33 | ManxPower | bkw_, The X-Ten SoftPhones, I admit, seem to suck less than the other ones. |
| 00:36.34 | jjhall | ManxPower: I know, they aren't the best. I am currently using X-Lite with FWD to get the feel of things. I want to get a couple of Grandstreams if this works out well. |
| 00:36.42 | tzanger | no |
| 00:36.43 | file[bed] | I use a Pentium Pro system for my server :) |
| 00:36.44 | Damin | I've got a patch that allows you to define a pre-acknowledge .gsm file that is played upon AgetnCallbackLogin. |
| 00:36.47 | tzanger | xten's phones suck |
| 00:36.51 | tzanger | skinned interfaces suck as a general rule |
| 00:36.59 | Corydon76-home | The only softphone I use is a bigger rubber dildo phone... |
| 00:37.02 | fnkmaster | I miss my old PPro 200 - my faithful desktop machine throughout college. I finally had to get rid of it the other day, taking up too much closet space in my Manhattan apartmnet. |
| 00:37.18 | fnkmaster | lol Corydon |
| 00:37.49 | file[bed] | Damin: yippe!!! |
| 00:37.54 | robl^ | I wanna try the Cisco softphone |
| 00:37.58 | Damin | file[bed]: It works.. |
| 00:38.01 | jjhall | But that would be a definite advantage of getting the Dev kit, it would allow me to set up a couple of hard phones on the same extension/line. |
| 00:38.14 | Damin | file[bed]: It works great. :) But I have a logic error that is pissing me off.. |
| 00:38.20 | file[bed] | Damin: ic |
| 00:38.47 | bkw_ | haha |
| 00:38.51 | bkw_ | tzanger xpro isn't bad at all |
| 00:38.52 | bkw_ | it works |
| 00:38.57 | bkw_ | it doesn't blow up |
| 00:39.00 | Damin | If I don't define "preackannounce=all-your-base" in agents.conf, the variable "preack" contains a value of "0" |
| 00:39.23 | Damin | Therefore, the announcement is skipped.. |
| 00:39.26 | bkw_ | Damin then you need to not set it to 0 |
| 00:39.33 | bkw_ | :P |
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| 00:39.47 | Damin | if (p->preack = 1) |
| 00:39.47 | Damin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.47 | Damin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.47 | Damin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.49 | Damin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.02 | bkw_ | its if(p->preack == 1) |
| 00:40.07 | newmember | try this USB headset http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/catalog/display_product_detail.jhtml?rootId=cat640035&prodId=prod440038&productTypeId=cat1430032 |
| 00:40.07 | bkw_ | not = |
| 00:40.11 | Damin | Hmm.. |
| 00:40.33 | Damin | Fucking C! ;) |
| 00:40.35 | ManxPower | newmember, A usb heasdet? No thanks! |
| 00:40.42 | bkw_ | Damin no just about every lang does that |
| 00:40.53 | newmember | ManxPower: have installed over 1000 of these in call centers |
| 00:41.11 | bkw_ | ya really |
| 00:41.13 | bkw_ | please do |
| 00:41.33 | Damin | I'm -NOT- a Programmer! ;) |
| 00:41.35 | ManxPower | newmember, Good for you, but my cordless phone doesn't support USB headsets. Does it work under Linux? |
| 00:41.48 | file[bed] | Damin: I see you added more to the agents system, break it yet? |
| 00:41.49 | ManxPower | Damin, bkw_ wasn't either when he started working with Asterisk. |
| 00:41.54 | Damin | I just don't want to pay someone else the $50 bounty I put out there, so I'm writing the code myself! ;) |
| 00:41.56 | file[bed] | well, more people |
| 00:42.05 | bkw_ | Damin all I knew was perl and php when I started with astersik |
| 00:42.11 | tzanger | dsp-100 does NOT work under linux |
| 00:42.12 | tzanger | I have one |
| 00:42.18 | bkw_ | now you can find my handy work all over the place :P |
| 00:42.19 | tzanger | and it's really fucking flimsy too (the headset part) |
| 00:42.24 | Damin | My C is 10 years old. |
| 00:42.28 | Damin | And bad at that. |
| 00:42.41 | twisted | wow |
| 00:42.42 | tzanger | it's very ... big (the boom) ... but it's a decent cheapie |
| 00:42.45 | bkw_ | Damin I didnt know a lick of C when I started |
| 00:42.49 | ManxPower | Damin, for real humor look at my perl scripts I wrote for Asterisk. LOL! |
| 00:42.50 | bkw_ | bout 5 months now |
| 00:42.53 | twisted | if I had been coding C for 10 years, it would be rather refined. |
| 00:43.49 | bkw_ | twisted ya |
| 00:43.55 | bkw_ | C isn't that hard.. its a very small language |
| 00:44.27 | bkw_ | pointers can kick my ass at times if I don't think |
| 00:44.31 | bkw_ | but other than that I do ok |
| 00:44.35 | tzanger | yes pointers are a double-edged sword |
| 00:44.43 | bkw_ | yep |
| 00:44.49 | tzanger | I've been doing C work for the past 12-15 years now |
| 00:44.52 | Damin | Okie Dokie.. That's fixed.. |
| 00:44.52 | Damin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.53 | Damin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:45.01 | mishehu | pointers and scope issues is what gets to most programmers in c, no? |
| 00:45.14 | Damin | And if you add "preackannounce=all-your-base" to agents.conf, it looks different. ;) |
| 00:45.14 | ManxPower | mishehu, Pointers. |
| 00:45.16 | bkw_ | Damin its strange what 1 char can fix or break |
| 00:45.18 | tzanger | but mind you it's kind of rusty... coding in PIC assembly really tends to knock you around |
| 00:45.23 | ManxPower | I think "scope" is a C++ thingy |
| 00:45.29 | Damin | It works. |
| 00:45.32 | tzanger | Damin: I was going to go for that $50 bounty but I have been screwing with my PVR all day |
| 00:45.38 | bkw_ | ManxPower no you have scope in C |
| 00:45.43 | robl^ | c is easy.. its trying to understand all the library APIs that is a pain in the @ss! |
| 00:45.48 | bkw_ | robl^ yep |
| 00:45.49 | tzanger | ManxPower: local/global scope |
| 00:45.51 | mishehu | ManxPower: the concept of scope in c++ is inherited from c |
| 00:45.56 | ManxPower | tzanger, Ah, OK. |
| 00:46.06 | mishehu | it's just modified. |
| 00:46.13 | bkw_ | I defined stuff global that shouldn't have been |
| 00:46.16 | bkw_ | so all hell broke loose |
| 00:46.20 | mishehu | bkw_: was that using the mysqlclient libs? |
| 00:46.23 | mishehu | or odbc? |
| 00:46.26 | tzanger | one thing that actually I really don't like about C++ is the ability to declare variables int he middle of code and scope it even more locally |
| 00:46.28 | bkw_ | mysql libs |
| 00:46.34 | Damin | twisted: If you haven't written anything in a language for 10 years, it would suck! ;) |
| 00:46.35 | bkw_ | ODBC on the other hand is really friendly to fuckups |
| 00:46.38 | tzanger | i.e. for(int i=0; i<5; i++) { int q; } typ eof thing |
| 00:46.41 | mishehu | tzanger: I avoid doing that |
| 00:46.46 | bkw_ | you can blow thru memory like a shotgun with ODBC and it doesn't segfault |
| 00:46.54 | Damin | Alright.. this patch is ready to rock.. |
| 00:46.55 | mishehu | ILikeReallyLongAndObnoxiousVariableNames ;-) |
| 00:46.57 | tzanger | mishehu: well yes you don't do it but the fact that it lets you irks me |
| 00:47.02 | tzanger | mishehu: ahh are you a win32 programmer... ? |
| 00:47.06 | mishehu | tzanger: java does to though |
| 00:47.07 | Damin | I'm going to submit it to bugs.digium.com |
| 00:47.15 | twisted | damin: well, possibly. But you didn't say it had been ten years, you just said it was "10 years old" |
| 00:47.15 | bkw_ | Damin please don't |
| 00:47.15 | tzanger | ppppszSomeVarHere |
| 00:47.20 | bkw_ | put it on the mailign list |
| 00:47.26 | ManxPower | I normally have _The C Programming Language_ by Kernighan and Ritchie and _Advanced Programming in the UNIX Enviroment by Richard Stevens open on his desk when he's messing with C |
| 00:47.28 | bkw_ | then in a week or so post it |
| 00:47.33 | bkw_ | give yourself a week or so to refine it |
| 00:47.34 | bkw_ | then post it |
| 00:47.40 | tzanger | bkw_: excellent advise... |
| 00:47.43 | mishehu | tzanger: nah, I just like to be descriptive. the names aren't *too* long, but only counters in a for loop are just single character names |
| 00:47.44 | robl^ | OK>> Everyone can now buy their SCO IP license to use Linux online. http://www.thescogroup.com/scosource/linuxlicense.html |
| 00:48.05 | mishehu | tzanger: and btw, my names mean something, it's not like windows shit. |
| 00:48.09 | twisted | robl: LOL |
| 00:48.22 | mishehu | robl^: ooh, I'll race out and buy 10 now! |
| 00:48.23 | tzanger | mishehu: I was just joking relax :-) |
| 00:48.25 | *** join/#asterisk da-man-So (~claude_cu@adsl-209-71-200.bct.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:48.26 | bkw_ | End users who purchase this license are granted the right to use the SCO IP in Linux in binary format only. The license is available immediately and can be purchased by credit card through our online store. |
| 00:48.30 | bkw_ | OH MY thats so wrong |
| 00:48.31 | mishehu | tzanger: yah, but there's truth in what you say ;-) |
| 00:48.34 | bkw_ | in binary format only |
| 00:48.35 | fnkmaster | heheheheheeh SCO license... that's funny |
| 00:48.37 | mishehu | about windows programmers hehehe |
| 00:48.40 | bkw_ | they are so in violation of the GPL |
| 00:48.45 | twisted | hahahahahha |
| 00:49.03 | tzanger | bkw_: on the linux elitist mailing list there have been a couple of guys trying to buy a license from sco since they offered it... they cannot get anyone at sco to actually sell them a license |
| 00:49.14 | ManxPower | bkw_, I think the courts should just give all of SCO's assets to the FSF and be done with it. |
| 00:49.19 | mishehu | bkw_: what happens if you buy sco licenses with a stolen cc #? you're just buying phoney shit with a phoney card |
| 00:49.24 | bkw_ | ManxPower ya thats whats going to happen |
| 00:49.29 | Damin | bkw_: It is like 20 lines of code! :) |
| 00:49.41 | tzanger | mishehu: it's not a phony card, it's just not yours |
| 00:49.41 | Damin | bkw_: Kind of difficult to refine.. :) |
| 00:49.44 | bkw_ | Damin you demostrated that 1 char can fuck it up.. run it ofr a week first |
| 00:49.47 | mishehu | ManxPower: that would mean that SCOX has actual assets. they just have the first 3 letters of that word. |
| 00:49.53 | bkw_ | Damin then post it |
| 00:49.57 | bkw_ | a diff -u if you can |
| 00:50.01 | mishehu | tzanger: couldn't think of the actual words I was looking for... |
| 00:50.03 | ManxPower | mishehu, I'm sure they have SOME assetts. |
| 00:50.11 | mishehu | ManxPower: no no, just ASSes |
| 00:50.13 | mishehu | heh |
| 00:50.20 | twisted | ".... Linux is an unauthorized derivative work of the UNIX® operating system." |
| 00:50.22 | twisted | LOL |
| 00:50.28 | bkw_ | thats so funny |
| 00:50.30 | bkw_ | its so not |
| 00:50.33 | bkw_ | we already know this |
| 00:50.37 | bkw_ | SCO is blowing smoke |
| 00:50.43 | mishehu | twisted: they forgot the disclaimer "pending court proceedings" |
| 00:50.47 | ManxPower | mishehu, Service contracts with companies that run SCO Unix, for example. Chairs, partitions, computers, office supplies, file cabniets, telephones, etc |
| 00:50.49 | fnkmaster | mishehu: if you buy with a stolen CC number, then SCO gets stuck with chargeback fees |
| 00:50.49 | bkw_ | they are the only people I know that can blow smoke up their own asses |
| 00:50.50 | twisted | yeh |
| 00:50.58 | bkw_ | fnkmaster good one |
| 00:51.04 | fnkmaster | it would be quite a shame if SCO got shafted with lots of chargebacks, wouldn't it |
| 00:51.13 | mishehu | fnkmaster: ah, great new DoS idea! DoS them with chargebacks! |
| 00:51.18 | fnkmaster | hehehe |
| 00:51.23 | robl^ | hehe |
| 00:51.29 | mishehu | fnkmaster: but actually, I thought that was all covered by the credit company's insurance. |
| 00:51.30 | Damin | bkw_: http://www.nacs.net/~damin/agent-preack-announce.patch |
| 00:51.43 | bkw_ | shop.sco.com isn't working |
| 00:51.44 | robl^ | I wonder if my Visa's "fraud protection" works with SCO? |
| 00:51.44 | bkw_ | wonder why |
| 00:51.56 | bkw_ | thats funny as hell |
| 00:51.58 | fnkmaster | mishehu: not in my experience as a merchant. It depends though, there are fraud protection services and the like. |
| 00:52.01 | bkw_ | shop.sco.com appears to be dead |
| 00:52.14 | mishehu | robl^: as in protecting you from purchasing fradulent licenses from a fradulent company? |
| 00:52.23 | ManxPower | bkw_, I thought sco.com was retired? |
| 00:52.31 | fnkmaster | no www.sco.com is retired. |
| 00:52.37 | ManxPower | ahgoo, OK. |
| 00:52.47 | fnkmaster | sco.com lives |
| 00:52.48 | ManxPower | ah, |
| 00:53.11 | fnkmaster | also www.thescogroup.com |
| 00:53.15 | robl^ | mishehu, I have protection from vendors not deliverying what was sold. So, if they can't legally sell my the rights, then it was a fraudulent charge. therefore, I should be able to contest it |
| 00:53.18 | twisted | here's something funny: |
| 00:53.19 | twisted | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:53.38 | mishehu | robl^: yah, but it's better not to part with the money in the first place. |
| 00:53.39 | bkw_ | shop.sco.com didnt live long |
| 00:53.42 | fnkmaster | twisted: that's been the case all along... I guess their logic is that since it's their IP they can run Linux.... |
| 00:53.48 | robl^ | twisted, of course! they OWN linus. wouldn't any company use their own products? ;) |
| 00:53.49 | mishehu | twisted: did they sell themselves a license? |
| 00:53.50 | mishehu | heh |
| 00:54.08 | twisted | maybe shop.sco.com is down because they forgot to license it. |
| 00:54.25 | fnkmaster | it's just too absurd. They also still distribute Linux source code on their servers under the GPL. |
| 00:54.42 | tzanger | robl^: actually many companies do NOT use their own products so taht if anything DOES fail they can get someone in to fix it and bitch mightily about it being down |
| 00:55.23 | mishehu | I'm just waiting for microsoft to run their windowsupdate site on linux. |
| 00:55.58 | fnkmaster | That Avaya 4620SW looks nice |
| 00:56.50 | mishehu | avaya shmavaya |
| 00:56.52 | fnkmaster | sorry, why am I getting beaten again? |
| 00:57.36 | hmodes | obviously it is because you are a naughty monkey! |
| 00:57.58 | fnkmaster | ah yes, that must be it |
| 00:58.07 | hmodes | you naughty monkey you |
| 00:59.09 | hmodes | hah! |
| 00:59.15 | fnkmaster | oh wait, that's not a banana, it's my Cisco 7920 |
| 00:59.41 | phsdshft | er.. BDSM chatroom heh |
| 01:00.28 | fnkmaster | err bondage chatrooms scare me. I mean, weird sexual practices are one thing. Going on the internet to talk about weird sexual practices... err... that's weird. |
| 01:00.38 | twisted | nah |
| 01:00.43 | twisted | it's not talking about it that should bother yout |
| 01:00.45 | twisted | -t |
| 01:01.13 | twisted | it's going on the internet to pretend you're performing wierd sexual practicies when in fact you are only talking about it, yet taking it completely seriously. |
| 01:02.02 | phsdshft | heh |
| 01:02.14 | fnkmaster | true that. Or when you go on the internet to pretend you an 18 year old goth chick who likes to be beaten with power lines when in fact you are a horny 45 year old man with a wife and two kids... |
| 01:02.39 | ManxPower | If you get to know someone you can weed out the fakers out pretty quickly. |
| 01:02.45 | phsdshft | heh |
| 01:03.30 | fnkmaster | "hey baby, wanna call me on my Asterisk box and we can chat?" |
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| 01:05.10 | fnkmaster | dinner calls... |
| 01:05.54 | vile | anyone want to talk to an 18 y/o goth chick? I like to be beaten with power lines.. ne1? |
| 01:06.10 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:06.34 | twisted | i'll talk to the 18 y/o goth chick |
| 01:06.40 | twisted | and i can arrange the power lines :P |
| 01:06.55 | twisted | j/k |
| 01:07.41 | mishehu | vile: are you talking about 110v, 220v, or high tension power lines? |
| 01:07.47 | mishehu | heh |
| 01:07.55 | vile | high tension plz |
| 01:08.13 | vile | movies bbl |
| 01:08.33 | ManxPower | so if you left and rejoined the channel would you be revile? |
| 01:08.39 | vile[movies] | re: |
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| 01:11.15 | jjhall | Anyone here familiar with MySQL and Fedora that could help me get it working? |
| 01:11.31 | bkw_ | oh i'm so going to do the monolopy money thing and send it to SCO |
| 01:11.31 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:11.44 | bkw_ | but I have the .com edition |
| 01:11.50 | jjhall | LOL |
| 01:12.10 | bkw_ | so I will send millions and say I own the company and that McBride is fired |
| 01:12.32 | jjhall | LOL. Do they still sell replacement money at stores? |
| 01:12.40 | bkw_ | http://www.areyougame.com/interact/item.asp?itemno=HB00035&q=HB00035 |
| 01:13.27 | jjhall | Send it to them in Ones. LOL |
| 01:14.13 | ManxPower | bkw_, Wow, that site even has a magic 8-ball |
| 01:14.36 | bkw_ | google is the bomb |
| 01:14.51 | bkw_ | they have 100 monolopy games |
| 01:15.04 | bkw_ | Lord of the Rings Monopoly |
| 01:15.08 | jjhall | So no takers to help with MySQL> :-) |
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| 01:22.32 | Carp2 | Who runs http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/ |
| 01:22.33 | Carp2 | ? |
| 01:25.12 | bkw_ | ManxPower |
| 01:25.13 | ManxPower | I run fnords.org |
| 01:25.24 | ManxPower | BOW DOWN BEFORE ME! |
| 01:25.35 | ManxPower | Sorry, I was channeling Daryl McBride there for a moment. |
| 01:25.44 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:26.48 | robl^ | Darl Scares me |
| 01:26.55 | bkw_ | he is an idiot |
| 01:27.02 | bkw_ | ID10T |
| 01:27.38 | robl^ | OUCH! Thunder goes boom! and electric go bye-bye. I am glad my router and SDSL modem is on a HUGE UPS |
| 01:27.53 | tzanger | robl^: heh |
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| 01:28.38 | Damin | Hmm.. i wonder if SCO plays NIN on their hold music? "Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve" |
| 01:29.17 | ManxPower | Damin, Even if they did you'd not be able to understand the lyrics without the liner notes. |
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| 01:30.14 | AyAn4m1 | Anyone open for a compile question? |
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| 01:34.43 | bkw_ | wtf |
| 01:34.48 | bkw_ | caldera.fr |
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| 01:47.13 | TestMasTer | Anyone here do php? |
| 01:47.19 | robl^ | I do.. |
| 01:47.32 | jjhall | I do |
| 01:47.39 | robl^ | often, even |
| 01:47.51 | TestMasTer | can any of use see a problem with this update.php = <?php $update = " text about the new update "; ?> Controlcenter.php = <?php include "http://mydomain.com/update.php"; echo $update; ?> |
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| 01:49.05 | robl^ | TestMasTer, umm.. yeah |
| 01:49.11 | lai | hi all |
| 01:49.19 | TestMasTer | robl^, what did i miss ? |
| 01:49.26 | lai | i am having problem installing the H323 module |
| 01:49.26 | robl^ | TestMasTer, what are you trying to do? |
| 01:49.30 | lai | anyone can help? |
| 01:50.03 | TestMasTer | robl^, I want to read from a remote file.. if there is a new version up date or not |
| 01:50.49 | robl^ | TestMasTer, include() includes a local php file. not a remote file. |
| 01:51.10 | TestMasTer | robl^, but it will also include remote files |
| 01:51.10 | lai | has anyone successfully installed the H323 module in Asterisk? |
| 01:52.00 | robl^ | TestMasTer, but.. if you include a remote php file, the remote php file will be pre-processed and contain only HTML.. no php tags |
| 01:52.37 | TestMasTer | robl^, ok instead of include what do you recommend i use? |
| 01:52.41 | citats | TestMasTer: accessing remote code is a horrible security risk... |
| 01:53.40 | Damin | OK.. |
| 01:53.55 | TestMasTer | citats, all i`m trying to figure out... only because i can`t remember.. is how to print on a remote file says.. There is a new Version.. Or there isn`t... Sorry if that sounds rude.. not meant to |
| 01:53.55 | Damin | So let's say I have 100 DID numbers assigned to SIP extensions.. |
| 01:54.30 | Damin | I.E. exten => 2169203021,1,Dial,IAX2/asterisk@boehnlein/100 |
| 01:54.35 | Damin | Now.. |
| 01:54.54 | kram | a reload issue i think |
| 01:55.09 | Damin | I need to be able to set the CallerID to the user's DID when they dial out using the PRI. |
| 01:55.33 | robl^ | TestMasTer, use fopen() and fgets().. then make sure you check for any errant content |
| 01:55.40 | Damin | I'm pretty sure I do that with SetCallerID and SetCIDName |
| 01:55.43 | ManxPower | Damin, That's easy enough to do in one of 2 ways. |
| 01:55.59 | ManxPower | Actually one of 3 ways off the top of my head. |
| 01:56.20 | bkw_ | sip.conf |
| 01:56.31 | ManxPower | What I do is use my fixupclid.agi script (available in my downloads directory). |
| 01:56.37 | TestMasTer | bkw_, Are you part of the Docs team? |
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| 01:56.50 | bkw_ | no |
| 01:57.07 | mishehu | bah, disappointing day. I was planning to give an asterisk demo of asterisk routing amongst 3 asterisk servers... for some reason couldn't get it to route out and authenticate to the other server. |
| 01:57.11 | ManxPower | That script is called when a Exten to Exten call happens and it strips off the leading 6 digits of the caller id if it's more than 4 digits. |
| 01:57.39 | ManxPower | If it's an exten to pstn call it adds the requied 6 digits to the callerid of the extension. |
| 01:57.43 | ManxPower | Read the source code. |
| 01:58.13 | kilobit | hi.. how do i enable message waiting indicator.. i already added mailbox= in sip.conf but nothing happens... |
| 01:59.36 | bkw_ | maibox=exten@context if not in default |
| 01:59.46 | bkw_ | er mailbox |
| 02:00.13 | ManxPower | Damin, You'll have to modify the script to your needs, of course. |
| 02:00.13 | Damin | ManxPower: I think bkw_ is saying that I can do that using the sip.conf file. If that is the case, it is easy. |
| 02:00.13 | ManxPower | kilobit, Are the mailboxes in voicemail.conf NOT in [default]? |
| 02:00.13 | kilobit | ManxPower, all are in default.. |
| 02:00.13 | ManxPower | Damin, You can easily set the callerid in sip.conf, but then internal calls will have the full callerid number and not just the extension part of it. |
| 02:00.16 | Damin | ManxPower: Well, since these users will NEVER be calling each other, that is fine. ;) |
| 02:00.16 | ManxPower | or more clearly mailbox=exten@vmcontext |
| 02:00.22 | file[bed] | ooh, major lag |
| 02:00.26 | ManxPower | Damin, Ah, OK. bkw_'s way is WAY simplier than my way then. |
| 02:00.35 | bkw_ | if you set callerid= in sip.conf it will just work |
| 02:00.40 | kilobit | btw, my vm users are in sql.. |
| 02:00.53 | Damin | http://voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+sip+channels |
| 02:00.55 | bkw_ | YOU MUST have a context or your getting bitten by the bug |
| 02:00.56 | kilobit | all are in default context |
| 02:00.59 | ManxPower | I want internal calls to show only the extension and external calls to show the DID (if assigned, if not then show the main office number) |
| 02:01.06 | bkw_ | kilobit using mysql vm? |
| 02:01.16 | kilobit | bkw_ yes.. |
| 02:01.17 | Damin | ManxPower: Yeah.. |
| 02:01.18 | bkw_ | haha |
| 02:01.20 | bkw_ | you got bit |
| 02:01.26 | bkw_ | use mailbox=exten@default |
| 02:01.29 | bkw_ | bet it will work |
| 02:01.37 | bkw_ | or you have a mysql vm routines that are fucked |
| 02:01.49 | robl^ | hrmmm.. so if ogg123 was to used for a mpg123 replacement, what features do we need? |
| 02:01.57 | kilobit | bkw ok.. ill try that.. thanks.. |
| 02:02.19 | bkw_ | robl^ a resample option |
| 02:02.29 | bkw_ | ogg123 doesnt |
| 02:02.30 | tzanger | on a sip phone how does one generally use functions such as transfer ... I'm not a sip expert so I don't know if that's really a stupid question or not |
| 02:02.54 | bkw_ | tzanger I use my softkeys |
| 02:03.01 | tzanger | bkw_: hmm |
| 02:03.13 | Damin | struct sip_user is enlightening.. |
| 02:03.16 | tzanger | I am wondering if the wisip can transfer and shit when the call is on hold... |
| 02:03.21 | file[bed] | Damin: ...poke? |
| 02:03.21 | Damin | Who needs docs when you have source code? :) |
| 02:03.32 | Damin | file[bed]: Ouch |
| 02:03.37 | tzanger | but I'm not sure how to tell it ot transfer :-) |
| 02:03.37 | file[bed] | I have the power! |
| 02:03.52 | Damin | file[bed]: OK Heman.. |
| 02:03.54 | kilobit | bkw_ still the same.. any more ideas? |
| 02:04.06 | file[bed] | Damin: What's up? |
| 02:04.43 | robl^ | bkw_, what about using ogg123 and then pre-encoding the files at the right bitrate? |