| 00:00.02 | marlowe | I won't vanish |
| 00:00.03 | loko | im sure you will hear from us first =P |
| 00:00.04 | file | slePP: Please continue to hold. |
| 00:00.06 | extremis | plus you can 'show application <applicationname>' in the cli |
| 00:00.08 | slePP | file: yup |
| 00:00.09 | loko | when we ask every monring if it is ready uet |
| 00:00.09 | cypromis | at least for the last 3 years |
| 00:00.14 | loko | uet= yet |
| 00:00.19 | slePP | i hate these systems that just keep talking to you. and talking and talking |
| 00:00.28 | *** join/#asterisk ian_ (~ian@dsl-082-082-146-035.arcor-ip.net) |
| 00:00.36 | slePP | i mean really. play the music for like 5 minutes THEN talk, then stop talking, then play mor emusic. stop saying the same damn thing every 30 seconds |
| 00:00.37 | extremis | adam: plus I like to annoy the people in here and ask newb questions, or call digium all the time |
| 00:00.39 | aoxo^ | re |
| 00:00.52 | file | slePP: but it's good for business!!! |
| 00:00.52 | aoxo^ | sorry, i had some problems with my connections to my isp |
| 00:00.54 | adam | Is that a hint about what I'm doing?... |
| 00:01.05 | extremis | adam: nope, I actually do that |
| 00:01.17 | aoxo^ | The last i got was: <extremis> you just don't hear tone? |
| 00:01.24 | slePP | so i can't go get any cuz i've wasted this much time on hold so far, i don't want to go |
| 00:01.24 | aoxo^ | <aoxo> extremis, when i call somebody, i hear the ringtone and then his voice :-) |
| 00:01.25 | aoxo^ | <aoxo> I think this is a simple configuration issue of asterisk, but i cant find any hints in the docs/wiki etc. |
| 00:01.25 | aoxo^ | <aoxo> After picking up the phone i am send directly to extension 's' |
| 00:01.26 | file | slePP: now remember not to hangup! |
| 00:01.29 | slePP | heh |
| 00:01.30 | adam | K :-) I often get the impression that I'm annoying the shit out of folks in here... |
| 00:01.41 | slePP | this is why i want to do things like use asterisk. i'd just transfer this to my cell phone |
| 00:01.46 | slePP | and transfer it back to the landline when i was home |
| 00:01.54 | marlowe | slepp: I do that all the time |
| 00:02.02 | extremis | aoxo: I don't think extensions.conf will generate dialtone |
| 00:02.17 | extremis | but alwayss remember to Answer() the line ;) |
| 00:02.27 | marlowe | I used to do it without answer.. worked fine |
| 00:02.27 | marlowe | lol |
| 00:02.40 | adam | Thanks for the suggestions, extremis. |
| 00:02.46 | extremis | adam: I wish I knew more |
| 00:02.51 | extremis | heh |
| 00:03.01 | nitram | extremis: does answer provide dialtone? |
| 00:03.01 | marlowe | Jaime wheres my shit at ! |
| 00:03.03 | marlowe | oops |
| 00:03.04 | marlowe | wrong window |
| 00:03.07 | extremis | nitram: I don't think so |
| 00:03.15 | nitram | extremis: so what does? |
| 00:03.21 | extremis | dialtone is handled by the module I'm pretty sure |
| 00:03.30 | extremis | well |
| 00:03.38 | slePP | what do you think i should tell Primus to convince them to gie me SIP instead of MGCP |
| 00:04.01 | marlowe | slepp: MGCP sucks |
| 00:04.02 | marlowe | sip is better |
| 00:04.06 | file | slePP: firewall blocks MGCP? |
| 00:05.02 | extremis | did I dispense an appropriate amount of misinformation? |
| 00:05.25 | file | slePP: I don't know how to convince them... |
| 00:05.51 | cypromis | skinny is like masochism |
| 00:06.08 | hmodes | i seriously doubt you'll be able to pull that one off |
| 00:06.12 | hmodes | use vonage! :) |
| 00:06.16 | slePP | bah. i can't kill Vocal! |
| 00:06.30 | file | slePP wants a local DID and only Primus can give him one |
| 00:06.34 | file | OKAY? OKAY?!?!?!?!?!? |
| 00:06.52 | hmodes | pfft |
| 00:06.54 | *** join/#asterisk serving (~serving@213.186.191.221) |
| 00:06.56 | slePP | yes. |
| 00:07.01 | slePP | nobody else can give me one. |
| 00:07.02 | cypromis | hi serving |
| 00:07.43 | slePP | which is really really really annoying... |
| 00:08.06 | slePP | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.06 | slePP | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.07 | slePP | aw... :< |
| 00:09.49 | slePP | i wish i had a headset/speakerphone to sit on this stupid annoying hold |
| 00:10.16 | extremis | push the phone harder to your ear |
| 00:10.32 | marlowe | :-D |
| 00:10.38 | marlowe | extremis: lol |
| 00:10.56 | *** join/#asterisk Pkunk (~imranyo@61.11.73.47) |
| 00:12.49 | Pkunk | i'm trying to get an iconnecthere account working for outbound US calls from an internal SIP client on LAN |
| 00:13.14 | Pkunk | and on the asterisk server all i get in messages is "Maximum retries exceeded on call .... " |
| 00:13.58 | ManxPower | slePP, I'm stuck with Packet8 if I want DIDs local to me. |
| 00:14.01 | Pkunk | i tried using Gnophone too as an IAX client and i get the same error |
| 00:14.09 | file | slePP: status report. |
| 00:14.27 | ManxPower | Pkunk, That usually means an issue with NAT |
| 00:14.30 | slePP | file: With Primus DSL service, your company will be .. blah blah blah |
| 00:14.47 | slePP | manxpower: yeh. i'm stuck with primus, which is mgcp.. and supposedly SIP. there is a SIP server at their end responding to me, but with 403 errors |
| 00:14.48 | file | lol |
| 00:14.56 | slePP | so i dunno if 403 means 'you can't use this' or 'get your password right' |
| 00:15.01 | slePP | since 401 is Unauthed |
| 00:15.07 | marlowe | jesus |
| 00:15.12 | marlowe | Inbound calls from Canada, Puerto Rico, Alaska, and Hawaii are charged at 22¢ per minute. All calls must terminate in the continental US. Calls are charged a 30 second minimum with 6 second increments thereafter. The additional usage price applies after included monthly minutes have been used. Local, state, and federal taxes are charged where applicable. |
| 00:15.22 | marlowe | 22/minute! |
| 00:15.34 | marlowe | Move out of canada |
| 00:15.44 | ManxPower | marlowe, rates to those locations are expensive even in the USA. |
| 00:15.49 | slePP | who's that with, marlowe? |
| 00:16.00 | marlowe | slepp: Just some random company I found, not voip |
| 00:16.03 | slePP | ah |
| 00:16.12 | marlowe | Manx: Wow, thats nuts.. Some out of country mobile phone rates are crazy |
| 00:16.18 | *** join/#asterisk extremis (~extremis@121-17.waldenweb.com) |
| 00:16.27 | Pkunk | ManxPower : tcpdump shows repeated ".esINVITE.sip:18001234567@sipauth.deltthree.com.SIP/2" msgs on port 5060 to the deltathree server |
| 00:16.48 | *** part/#asterisk extremis (~extremis@121-17.waldenweb.com) |
| 00:17.10 | Pkunk | ManxPower : i think the problem is asterisk doesn't ever try to authenticate , because i can't see my username/password in any message |
| 00:17.12 | marlowe | INMARSAT - 87087011.5000 |
| 00:17.24 | marlowe | INMARSAT - 870 11.5000 |
| 00:17.32 | marlowe | That would be $11.50/minute |
| 00:17.39 | marlowe | I dunno what INMARSAT is though |
| 00:18.10 | Pkunk | i think thats what ships use |
| 00:18.14 | BoRiS2 | 22/minute....Ouch |
| 00:18.18 | ManxPower | marlowe, the suitcase sized sat phones. |
| 00:18.25 | marlowe | Oh really? |
| 00:18.30 | ManxPower | What you used before Irrisium |
| 00:18.32 | marlowe | Jesus :) |
| 00:18.37 | marlowe | $11.50! |
| 00:18.49 | Pkunk | in the middle of the ocean you dont have too many choices |
| 00:18.58 | booyeah | 11.50 a minute? |
| 00:19.03 | marlowe | yes |
| 00:19.05 | ManxPower | marlowe, *nod* They are a monopoly, I think they even lowered their rates a LOT in recent years. |
| 00:19.05 | booyeah | whats the most expensive service |
| 00:19.06 | marlowe | There's some cheaper ones |
| 00:19.14 | marlowe | INMARSAT - 8718714.5885 |
| 00:19.14 | marlowe | INMARSAT - 8728744.5885 |
| 00:19.14 | marlowe | INMARSAT - 8738734.5885 |
| 00:19.14 | marlowe | INMARSAT - 8748724.5885 |
| 00:19.17 | booyeah | like satelitte phones? |
| 00:19.19 | marlowe | $4.58 |
| 00:19.27 | file | Globalstar is semi-cheap |
| 00:19.33 | ManxPower | Irridum is a lot cheaper than $11/min |
| 00:19.37 | michaell | dam it |
| 00:19.38 | booyeah | say if you were in iraq, what type of mobile phones can you use |
| 00:19.40 | ManxPower | More like $3 - $4 I think. |
| 00:19.43 | michaell | our server almost crashed |
| 00:19.45 | marlowe | Manx: Well thats incoming to a Irridum phone |
| 00:19.50 | booyeah | shit |
| 00:19.57 | booyeah | you need to be bawler |
| 00:19.59 | ManxPower | booyeah, IMARSAT isn't exactly "mobile" |
| 00:20.06 | booyeah | like making some drug deals |
| 00:20.09 | booyeah | how so? |
| 00:20.21 | booyeah | thats different then irridium? |
| 00:20.23 | marlowe | Iraq9640.3965 |
| 00:20.28 | marlowe | 0.3965 |
| 00:20.28 | Pkunk | what am i doing wrong is all Iconnect servers say is "B.=SIP/2.0.481.Call.Leg/Transaction.Does.Not.Exist..Via" |
| 00:20.49 | marlowe | That's a lot too :) Some of these rates are just scary |
| 00:20.55 | ManxPower | booyeah, Irridium is low orbit, so you need less power and smaller antenna. IMARSAT is in the same orbit at things like DirectTV, so you need a dish for that. |
| 00:21.02 | Pkunk | like asterisk doesn't even try to authenticate to to iconnect's servers . it just tries to call directly |
| 00:21.02 | booyeah | oh |
| 00:21.17 | ManxPower | google it. |
| 00:21.20 | marlowe | ManxPower: Your head is filled with so much information :) I'll have to pick it one day. :) |
| 00:21.20 | booyeah | can you get crypto option with those phones? |
| 00:21.29 | booyeah | or run data over them? |
| 00:21.36 | ManxPower | I've not looked into it for years. IMARSAT also does data. |
| 00:21.47 | ManxPower | (which is what I was researching when I learned about IMARSAT) |
| 00:21.48 | marlowe | @ $11.50/minute thats to do data |
| 00:21.51 | marlowe | dont leave your computer on :) |
| 00:21.56 | booyeah | hahah |
| 00:22.32 | learath | that's a shitload of cash |
| 00:22.42 | marlowe | That's more than porn |
| 00:22.43 | marlowe | who need sit |
| 00:22.44 | marlowe | it |
| 00:23.02 | Pkunk | i dont have my asterisk server running behind NAT , and i still get this problem |
| 00:23.03 | twisted | *belch* |
| 00:23.03 | marlowe | $690/hour |
| 00:23.12 | twisted | i got home to find the * server turned off. |
| 00:23.14 | twisted | someone is going to die. |
| 00:23.31 | marlowe | Oh that was me.. |
| 00:23.37 | marlowe | See what happened was I thought I went into my box |
| 00:23.39 | marlowe | But it was yours |
| 00:23.43 | marlowe | I did a shutdown -h now |
| 00:23.49 | marlowe | Sorry? |
| 00:23.52 | twisted | riiiight |
| 00:24.05 | twisted | considering i don't have apm enabled, that woulda got you REAAAL far as far as powering down the system |
| 00:24.12 | slePP | i'm still on hold. |
| 00:24.17 | marlowe | :-0 |
| 00:24.23 | slePP | this is getting ridiculous |
| 00:24.35 | twisted | slePP: zapbarge |
| 00:24.40 | file | slePP: I guess they just give high priority to their TalkBroadband service |
| 00:24.46 | marlowe | Word of the wise, if you use * at your office and have a sip phone in your house for your office line that also rings when someone calls in.. Tell the maid that shes not supposed to pick it up |
| 00:24.48 | slePP | oh yes. yes indeed. |
| 00:24.57 | slePP | marlowe: hehehehe |
| 00:25.01 | twisted | lol |
| 00:25.04 | file | I wonder if I called if I'd get answered first |
| 00:25.04 | slePP | i lost my marker too |
| 00:25.08 | file | or rather, before you |
| 00:25.20 | marlowe | That'd be funny |
| 00:25.20 | marlowe | :) |
| 00:25.22 | slePP | 1-800-370-0015 |
| 00:25.27 | slePP | ask for talkbroadband support |
| 00:25.28 | twisted | my maid runs phone sex off of my * box when I"m not here |
| 00:25.29 | twisted | i'm sure of it |
| 00:25.31 | slePP | after hitting 1, 1 |
| 00:25.39 | marlowe | whats talkbroadband |
| 00:25.42 | file | slePP: or I could hit 0 and get a representive immediately |
| 00:26.16 | slePP | oh, i already got one |
| 00:26.19 | slePP | i got the internet support |
| 00:26.24 | slePP | and they put me into the talkbroadband queue |
| 00:26.30 | file | that sux |
| 00:26.35 | Pkunk | what am i doing wrong is all Iconnect servers say is "B.=SIP/2.0.481.Call.Leg/Transaction.Does.Not.Exist..Via" ? |
| 00:26.48 | slePP | marlowe: talk broadband is Primus' voip service |
| 00:27.01 | slePP | i'm going to hate it if i have to use an X100P to get primus |
| 00:27.03 | Pkunk | no userid/password authentication is ever tried by asterisk |
| 00:27.24 | marlowe | wtf who stole my muffins |
| 00:27.27 | *** join/#asterisk mr` (~asdf@user-24-214-44-173.knology.net) |
| 00:27.28 | marlowe | I just bought muffins |
| 00:27.34 | marlowe | 12 of them |
| 00:27.36 | marlowe | no way they're all gone |
| 00:27.49 | twisted | marlowe: that was me |
| 00:27.54 | marlowe | wtf |
| 00:27.54 | twisted | i thought they were my muffins |
| 00:28.06 | twisted | i opened the box and ate them all |
| 00:28.07 | twisted | sorry |
| 00:28.08 | marlowe | You couldnt even throw the damn box away |
| 00:28.13 | *** join/#asterisk mr` (~asdf@user-24-214-44-173.knology.net) |
| 00:28.22 | file | slePP: Please continue to hold or your phone will explode. |
| 00:28.35 | *** join/#asterisk mr` (~asdf@user-24-214-44-173.knology.net) |
| 00:29.37 | Pkunk | has anyone EVER got iconnect to work with asterisk ? |
| 00:30.00 | marlowe | i think so |
| 00:30.02 | marlowe | Pkunk... |
| 00:30.03 | hmodes | it works fine pkunk |
| 00:30.05 | hmodes | lots of people do it |
| 00:30.07 | marlowe | Have you heard of this thing... |
| 00:30.10 | hmodes | but.. ich _sucks_ |
| 00:30.15 | marlowe | Umm,oh yeah.. mailing list |
| 00:30.24 | marlowe | There's like, 100000000 configs out there for it |
| 00:30.25 | hmodes | hah! |
| 00:30.38 | Pkunk | yes . and everyone says "NAT problems" , but i have to NAT |
| 00:30.43 | Pkunk | to=no |
| 00:30.51 | marlowe | You have NO nat? |
| 00:31.02 | marlowe | Or you HAVE nat? |
| 00:31.16 | Pkunk | no NAT , asterisk server is on direct IP |
| 00:31.18 | marlowe | Did you know if you pass an ice cream truck too fast you can get a 3 point ticket |
| 00:31.26 | marlowe | Pkunk: It should be easier to work without NAT then with NAT |
| 00:31.39 | marlowe | But I agree with hmodes, they _Suck_ |
| 00:31.40 | twisted | marlow: reckless endangerment |
| 00:31.58 | marlowe | twis: I know, but it's in the DMV book... 'Passing an ice-cream truck' |
| 00:31.59 | Pkunk | tcpdump shows data being sent with deltathree servers . but no userid/password authentication |
| 00:32.05 | *** join/#asterisk dalbjerg (dalbjerg@port248.ds1-hr.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 00:32.07 | marlowe | Right above 'Passing a school bus' |
| 00:32.12 | twisted | marlowe: it's because children flock to ice cream trucks |
| 00:32.17 | marlowe | I understand why :) |
| 00:32.27 | marlowe | Passing a school bus is 8 points here |
| 00:32.30 | twisted | you may, but another idiot may not |
| 00:32.33 | marlowe | The highest point ticket you can get. |
| 00:32.51 | twisted | i bet if you hit a pedestrian they'll take more than 8 points |
| 00:32.54 | marlowe | HAHA |
| 00:32.55 | marlowe | NOPE |
| 00:32.56 | marlowe | I hit 2!! |
| 00:32.58 | marlowe | roflmao |
| 00:33.04 | twisted | LOL |
| 00:33.06 | marlowe | I didn't even get a ticket |
| 00:33.12 | marlowe | Or in trouble, at all. |
| 00:33.23 | twisted | is that because they didn't find you? |
| 00:33.24 | marlowe | I got off on 'Pedestrian did not cross at cross-walk' |
| 00:33.27 | marlowe | Nope |
| 00:33.30 | marlowe | I found the police first |
| 00:33.33 | marlowe | After I hit him |
| 00:33.40 | marlowe | He and his 20 friends got in cars and chased me |
| 00:33.40 | twisted | did you knock him down? |
| 00:33.45 | marlowe | Yuupp |
| 00:33.45 | twisted | or did he roll over the hood? |
| 00:33.57 | marlowe | I hit him as he jumped out iof the way with the side of the car |
| 00:34.00 | marlowe | Sort of threw him |
| 00:34.10 | marlowe | There's a whole story behind this |
| 00:34.14 | marlowe | I have it typed up somewhere too |
| 00:34.20 | marlowe | Ill have to find it, for my own amusement |
| 00:35.09 | *** join/#asterisk stressed (stressed@202.70.125.132) |
| 00:35.40 | marlowe | So twisted |
| 00:35.43 | marlowe | How much ram do you haev? |
| 00:35.46 | marlowe | s/haev/have |
| 00:36.11 | twisted | in which box? |
| 00:36.17 | marlowe | I dunno |
| 00:36.18 | marlowe | You had a lot |
| 00:36.22 | marlowe | Like.. 4 gigs? |
| 00:36.28 | twisted | lol |
| 00:36.41 | marlowe | What's the max usage you've ever hit |
| 00:37.56 | slePP | 2600 seconds |
| 00:37.58 | slePP | that was my on-hold time |
| 00:38.03 | slePP | my answer: No, it's proprietary. |
| 00:38.07 | slePP | 'No, it's MGCP. I want SIP.' |
| 00:38.10 | slePP | 'We can't give you SIP.' |
| 00:38.14 | slePP | 'You have a SIP server.' |
| 00:38.18 | slePP | 'We only provide that in the US' |
| 00:38.19 | slePP | 'Why?' |
| 00:38.21 | slePP | 'I don't know' |
| 00:38.31 | slePP | 'Okay, then can I use my own devices with your MGCP server?' |
| 00:38.32 | slePP | 'No' |
| 00:38.33 | slePP | 'Why not?' |
| 00:38.38 | slePP | 'It's proprietary.' |
| 00:38.41 | slePP | 'No it's not, it's MGCP.' |
| 00:38.47 | slePP | 'Well, yes. But, you need the account information.' |
| 00:38.52 | slePP | 'I have it. It's this.' |
| 00:38.59 | slePP | 'Yes, that's right. But it won't work without the D-Link 1120M.' |
| 00:39.02 | slePP | 'Are you 100% sure?' |
| 00:39.04 | slePP | 'No.' |
| 00:39.04 | *** join/#asterisk brif8 (~brif8@rrcs-se-24-129-164-100.biz.rr.com) |
| 00:39.08 | slePP | 'This is a waste of my time, isn't it' |
| 00:39.10 | slePP | 'Yes. Probably.' |
| 00:39.14 | slePP | 'Okay.' |
| 00:39.17 | slePP | and so on and so forth |
| 00:39.24 | marlowe | :-/ |
| 00:39.27 | marlowe | Sucks man |
| 00:39.34 | file | slePP: was it a guy or a girl? |
| 00:39.40 | marlowe | It was a guy |
| 00:39.43 | marlowe | Sounds like a guy |
| 00:40.02 | file | be funny, lay it on as much as you can, compliment them, make sure it's a female though |
| 00:40.07 | file | be as nice and cool as you can |
| 00:40.17 | file | always start out with asking how their day is |
| 00:40.20 | file | be sympathetic |
| 00:40.20 | marlowe | female csr's do rock |
| 00:40.34 | file | what else... make sure to thank them immensely |
| 00:40.34 | slePP | well, it was a guy |
| 00:40.38 | slePP | and i talked to them for a while |
| 00:40.43 | file | slePP: call back and get a female |
| 00:40.48 | slePP | and he ended up admitting i had a way larger idea of what was going on |
| 00:40.48 | slePP | than he did |
| 00:40.57 | slePP | i explained their protocol negotiations i was watching, etc. |
| 00:40.58 | twisted | marlow: i have 784 megs in guido, 64 (heh) in alexis (the webserver), 512 in littletokyo ( * box ), 384 in this machine (laptop), 256 in pablo (the entertainment server), and 64 in the backup webserver |
| 00:41.02 | slePP | and he was like 'that sounds right..' |
| 00:41.03 | twisted | +e |
| 00:41.06 | twisted | damn nick completion |
| 00:41.17 | file | slePP: call back and follow my guide |
| 00:41.35 | marlowe | file: I followed your guide |
| 00:41.40 | marlowe | with a feale cisco rep |
| 00:41.41 | aoxo | I have a dialtone now :-) |
| 00:41.41 | marlowe | didnt work |
| 00:41.52 | file | I've gotten over $100 in cellular credits because of my guide |
| 00:41.52 | marlowe | female too |
| 00:41.54 | twisted | hahahah |
| 00:42.01 | aoxo | But - it doesnt stop when I start dialing :( |
| 00:42.01 | marlowe | file: I ot $500 |
| 00:42.09 | file | I also got a UPS refund |
| 00:42.10 | aoxo | marlowe, yippie! |
| 00:42.18 | marlowe | Nextel gives money out like nothing |
| 00:42.21 | marlowe | Too bad I have Verizon now |
| 00:42.24 | marlowe | They dont give money |
| 00:42.28 | file | slePP: so what'cha gonna do? |
| 00:42.36 | twisted | marlowe: i have nextel :) |
| 00:42.40 | twisted | the love to hand over da cash |
| 00:42.43 | marlowe | Yeah nextel started to suck |
| 00:42.46 | marlowe | (by me) |
| 00:43.00 | marlowe | Had to drop them |
| 00:43.02 | twisted | nextel started to suck? |
| 00:43.11 | marlowe | I got a boost prepaid in my car to contact a couple of people |
| 00:43.12 | twisted | lol - they've done nothing but improve here |
| 00:43.27 | marlowe | I had the unlimited plan |
| 00:43.29 | marlowe | I loved it |
| 00:43.38 | marlowe | Unlimited Incoming/Outgoing - Can't beat it |
| 00:43.44 | twisted | my phone is starting to suck |
| 00:43.54 | marlowe | I had the latested phone at the time |
| 00:43.55 | marlowe | i95cl |
| 00:43.57 | aoxo | so, I found that there is "stopPlaytones()" to stop a dialtone or other tones. But how do I call this after the first digit i dialed? (without ommiting this digit) |
| 00:43.57 | twisted | the battery charger decides on it's own when it wants to work |
| 00:43.58 | marlowe | Get the i703!! |
| 00:44.09 | slePP | file: i'm going to write an MGCP endpoint, or something |
| 00:44.19 | twisted | and sometimes the phone likes to just turn itself off. |
| 00:44.20 | slePP | i've been watching the packet flow. it looks like it'll work great with another MGCP device |
| 00:44.27 | file | uh huh |
| 00:44.34 | slePP | but i need to find an mgcp endpoint software package, and as of yet, Vocal seems to be the only thing that _might_ have that |
| 00:44.56 | marlowe | aoxo: X,1,StopPlayTones() |
| 00:44.57 | twisted | marlowe: btw, i called the roommate about the * box... he said the power went out, and the phone went down, but he didn't want to touch the server because he was afraid he'd fuck it up |
| 00:44.58 | marlowe | would that work? |
| 00:44.59 | marlowe | hmm |
| 00:45.06 | marlowe | twis: Oh :) |
| 00:45.15 | twisted | my quote, exactly: " how is turning it back on gonna fuck it up? " |
| 00:45.21 | marlowe | lol |
| 00:45.28 | slePP | file: join me in the hunt for something like an MGCP User Agent -> SIP proxy or such? :> |
| 00:45.37 | twisted | " it's a fucking power switch. you push it, wait about 30 seconds, and it's back " |
| 00:45.41 | twisted | his response: "oh" |
| 00:45.43 | file | erm I'm kinda in a very deep trance watching this show |
| 00:46.05 | marlowe | lalala |
| 00:46.11 | twisted | it's been down all fucking day... |
| 00:46.14 | twisted | and i didn't know |
| 00:46.17 | marlowe | twisted: 3 letters |
| 00:46.24 | marlowe | twisted: UPS! |
| 00:46.27 | twisted | and i'm waiting on a recruiter to call me back |
| 00:46.30 | aoxo | marlowe, thanx! |
| 00:46.37 | marlowe | ao: Did that actually work? |
| 00:46.37 | twisted | marlowe: can't afford it, thus the recruiter :P |
| 00:46.45 | marlowe | Wait that wont work |
| 00:46.49 | marlowe | lol i just thought about it |
| 00:46.54 | marlowe | There's another way Im just tired |
| 00:47.00 | aoxo | marlowe, yes it works |
| 00:47.03 | marlowe | oh |
| 00:47.05 | marlowe | awesome |
| 00:47.07 | marlowe | lol |
| 00:47.11 | marlowe | Sometimes Im smart when Im tired haha |
| 00:47.24 | marlowe | twi: Oh :) |
| 00:47.26 | marlowe | wtf |
| 00:47.28 | twisted | marlowe: that's cuz the subconsious takes hold :p |
| 00:47.30 | marlowe | sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt |
| 00:47.47 | marlowe | ... Value of NICK_COMPLETION set to ON |
| 00:47.50 | marlowe | It was on |
| 00:48.00 | marlowe | I know it was |
| 00:48.30 | marlowe | Markit: test |
| 00:48.42 | aoxo | marlowe, oh no, it doesnt work :-( |
| 00:48.49 | marlowe | haha |
| 00:48.53 | marlowe | now we're talking :) |
| 00:48.54 | aoxo | the dialtone stops, but it doesnt dial out |
| 00:48.55 | Markit | hi marlowe |
| 00:48.59 | marlowe | Markit: Ignore me |
| 00:49.04 | marlowe | :) |
| 00:49.12 | marlowe | aothailu: Let me think for a second |
| 00:49.15 | marlowe | grr |
| 00:49.26 | Markit | marlowe: I can't, you are usually so helpful ;) |
| 00:49.42 | marlowe | Markit: I know.. I know. :) |
| 00:49.48 | marlowe | I understand if you can't. :-D |
| 00:49.55 | Markit | LOL |
| 00:50.15 | marlowe | aoxo: I dunno, I forgot the question honestly.. I gotta go outside for a smoke. My head hurts. |
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| 00:58.44 | dalbjerg | Can i prefix asterisk, to bee install in example /usr/local/asterisk ? |
| 00:59.44 | marlowe | UHHHHH |
| 00:59.49 | marlowe | I'll give you one hint |
| 00:59.51 | marlowe | Makefile |
| 01:00.56 | dalbjerg | marlowe thx... |
| 01:03.16 | Markit | but is CVS compilable? I've got a lot of really scaring errors trying it |
| 01:05.19 | Markit | ast_expr.y:548: warning: integer constant is too large for "long" type |
| 01:05.38 | tholo | That's not an error, it is a warning. |
| 01:07.29 | Markit | well, a scaring one! |
| 01:07.58 | Markit | do I have to care about those: |
| 01:07.59 | Markit | chan_alsa.c:32:28: alsa/asoundlib.h: No such file or directory |
| 01:08.15 | Markit | res_crypto.c:25:25: openssl/ssl.h: No such file or directory |
| 01:08.17 | Markit | etc.? |
| 01:08.39 | Markit | or since I don't want to use crypto can be ignored? |
| 01:08.45 | andio | Markit: you dont have openssl installed? |
| 01:09.03 | tholo | If the happen when "make depend" only, then no. But you must have openssl-dev installed... |
| 01:09.20 | andio | Markit: you didn't read the instructions when download asterisk, did you? you need openssl stuff |
| 01:09.50 | citats | i suspect thats from mkdep so its not that big of a deal.... chan_alsa.c wont be built unless that file exists |
| 01:10.01 | Markit | I'm looking at a web page "getting started with asterisk", so maybe I'm missing something |
| 01:11.19 | andio | Markit: its on asterisk.org where the instructions for cvs checkout are. in any case you need openssl stuff. you need some more packages, what is (still) not documented ... but i'm sure you'll find out. its not too difficult |
| 01:11.43 | citats | Markit: your on debian right? 'apt-get install libssl-dev' |
| 01:11.56 | Markit | apt-cache search ^opens gives me no openssl-dev available :( |
| 01:12.02 | Markit | ah :) |
| 01:12.17 | andio | anyone needs dialin extensions in germany? even huge amounts possible :) |
| 01:12.20 | marlowe | wtf i dont have a search |
| 01:12.34 | citats | marlowe: apt-cache search? not apt-get searc |
| 01:12.34 | citats | h |
| 01:12.41 | marlowe | ahh |
| 01:12.45 | marlowe | ya learn something new everyday |
| 01:13.40 | slePP | okay. well. damn it. i have to write an MGCP Media Gateway channel for asterisk. |
| 01:13.49 | marlowe | Oh darnit slepp |
| 01:13.52 | marlowe | i hate when that happens |
| 01:13.55 | michaell | I just really killed asteris |
| 01:13.55 | slePP | yeh. me too |
| 01:13.59 | michaell | it won't start |
| 01:13.59 | Pkunk | is there anyway to make asterisk re-register everytime it tries to Dial to an SIP gateway ? |
| 01:14.01 | michaell | too many faiulres |
| 01:14.15 | aoxo | Markit, use the dep-src for asterisk from backports.org and do an "apt-get build-dep asterisk" |
| 01:14.22 | marlowe | Just a quick poll |
| 01:14.26 | BoRiS2 | Does asterisk cvs needs a iLBC library before compiling asterisk to use it? |
| 01:14.27 | marlowe | anyone interested in dids in the following areas: |
| 01:14.33 | marlowe | Chicago metro, Michigan, Indianapolis metro for now; LA, DC, NY shortly |
| 01:14.36 | marlowe | or ohio |
| 01:14.45 | citats | BoRiS2: no ilbc comes with * |
| 01:14.52 | andio | marlowe: me! .. can offer dids in germany if interested :) |
| 01:15.11 | marlowe | before everyone /msg's me.. |
| 01:15.13 | marlowe | I cant offer 'em yet :) |
| 01:15.16 | marlowe | I'm just curious. |
| 01:15.29 | andio | hm.. |
| 01:15.31 | marlowe | If u want to be notified email matthew.marlowe@gear3outlook.com where you want |
| 01:15.32 | andio | :) |
| 01:15.58 | Markit | aoxo: I have debian sid |
| 01:16.48 | andio | marlowe: k |
| 01:16.50 | andio | :) |
| 01:17.26 | Markit | andio: where can I find info of what I need in order to compile asterisk from cvs? I've some documents, but some are outdated, other incomplete... |
| 01:18.17 | andio | Markit: www.asterisk.org -> download .. on this page there are some hints. then just start to compile, and if you see something missing, apt-get it |
| 01:19.46 | andio | i had some trouble with the cvs sources on debian sid, since debian seems to have some kernel includes in other places. i'm not sure. |
| 01:20.05 | twisted | marlowe: doesn't nufone already offer did's in those areas? |
| 01:20.10 | marlowe | Umm |
| 01:20.12 | marlowe | In MI |
| 01:20.24 | twisted | um, my gatway is in chicago |
| 01:20.24 | marlowe | And some areas hes not provisioning yet, that I dont know of |
| 01:20.27 | twisted | er gateway |
| 01:20.43 | marlowe | Congrats. |
| 01:20.44 | marlowe | :) |
| 01:20.48 | twisted | lol |
| 01:21.04 | twisted | LOL |
| 01:21.09 | twisted | i thought this womans boop was her elbow |
| 01:21.10 | slePP | nice. |
| 01:21.12 | twisted | boob, even |
| 01:21.15 | slePP | mgcp doesn't look THAT bad. |
| 01:21.28 | slePP | and it's trying to route my phone call in now |
| 01:21.31 | slePP | and just timing out. :> |
| 01:21.54 | marlowe | I saw some girl on tv collected $500 by colllecting pennies |
| 01:22.00 | marlowe | That's a lot of pennies |
| 01:22.15 | marlowe | She went around streets and and asked for donations |
| 01:22.24 | twisted | 500000 pennies |
| 01:22.27 | Markit | tholo: do I have to write "make depend" instead of "make install"? |
| 01:22.31 | twisted | er |
| 01:22.34 | andio | well at least its a x100p she collected... |
| 01:22.34 | twisted | 50000 |
| 01:22.35 | twisted | evcen |
| 01:22.43 | marlowe | andio: :) |
| 01:22.43 | andio | err, t100p |
| 01:22.48 | andio | even |
| 01:22.49 | andio | :) |
| 01:22.53 | andio | so she can dial |
| 01:22.55 | twisted | even, even. |
| 01:23.04 | twisted | she can use a pri to make a call |
| 01:23.22 | twisted | i bet she's 14 |
| 01:23.29 | marlowe | Anyone know anyone offering termination offering incoming cidname? |
| 01:23.34 | andio | 2 channels is called stereo, how is it called when she calls in with 24 channels? |
| 01:23.42 | twisted | marlowe: incoming cidname is based off of your local CO |
| 01:23.47 | marlowe | not true |
| 01:23.51 | twisted | HAH |
| 01:23.53 | marlowe | well, yes and no |
| 01:24.00 | marlowe | Verisign holds the national database |
| 01:24.08 | twisted | of course |
| 01:24.09 | twisted | verisign. |
| 01:24.15 | twisted | who woulda thunk it |
| 01:24.30 | twisted | verisign owns everyone |
| 01:24.32 | marlowe | Most providers offer PRIs with incoming cidname |
| 01:24.34 | marlowe | For a penny a call |
| 01:25.22 | Markit | how can I tell what asterisk needs to compile? and where to geti it? i.e. it complains for asla and oss files, but I have alsa not oss, how can I avoid it to look for oss? |
| 01:25.36 | file | marlowe: Yes yes finish them |
| 01:25.44 | twisted | file needs another ld carrier.. |
| 01:25.45 | marlowe | file, it's not easy. |
| 01:25.47 | twisted | bkw cut him off |
| 01:25.55 | Markit | documentations is about a simple "make clean; make install", but does not work this way :( |
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| 01:26.13 | marlowe | Markit: Install RH8. Find the hitchhikers guide to installing asterisk on RH. have fun. |
| 01:26.15 | tholo | Markit: make depend (which is done automagically for you) will complain about a few things that you do not need. Ignore it. |
| 01:26.23 | file | twisted: haha |
| 01:26.23 | marlowe | Try tat for a beginner |
| 01:26.29 | tholo | Only if "make" or "make install" fails you have a problem. |
| 01:26.42 | aoxo | Markit, die you try "apt-get buil-deps asterisk"? |
| 01:26.49 | aoxo | did |
| 01:26.52 | slePP | k.... is there a skeleton channel in asterisk? |
| 01:27.04 | twisted | skeleton channel? |
| 01:27.16 | slePP | empty stubs |
| 01:27.22 | marlowe | off to watch tv. |
| 01:27.24 | marlowe | bbl |
| 01:27.27 | Markit | tholo: "make depend" seems to work, thanks |
| 01:27.30 | Connor | Anyone use RT for order entry tracking? |
| 01:27.41 | aoxo | Markit, this should get all packets you need to compile. |
| 01:27.50 | twisted | slepp: ehh? i'm not familiar with stubs... other than when limbs get cut off |
| 01:27.55 | andio | slePP: afaik not, like for app_skel.c |
| 01:28.00 | Markit | aoxo: for woody or sid? |
| 01:28.24 | slePP | cuz i don't think it'll get along with chan_mgcp |
| 01:28.34 | twisted | try it |
| 01:28.41 | twisted | if it doesn't get along, you know what to do :P |
| 01:28.52 | twisted | if it does, hoorah |
| 01:28.54 | slePP | :> |
| 01:29.35 | Markit | tholo: and now, after "make depend", "make install"? |
| 01:29.50 | BoRiS2 | make then make install |
| 01:29.57 | citats | Markit: just run 'make' |
| 01:30.05 | citats | if make completes, then run make install |
| 01:30.40 | brif8 | How hard it is to have an IP Phone support another protocol, what is required? |
| 01:30.44 | Markit | citats: I've used "make depend", is it ok? so now I can run "make install"? |
| 01:30.51 | citats | Markit: just type make |
| 01:31.37 | andio | hm. fax seems to work on my e100p ... not bad |
| 01:32.03 | Markit | citats: with the simple "make" I get a lot of complains about missing files (i.e. alsa, oss, etc.) |
| 01:32.26 | Pkunk | what did i do wrong if all sipauth.deltathree.com replies is "Call.Leg/Transaction.Does.Not.Exist" after 5-6 "INVITE ..." requests from asterisk |
| 01:32.26 | andio | Markit: sounds like your dist is screwed |
| 01:32.59 | aoxo | Markit, if you have the deb-src of sid in you apt/sources.list - for sid |
| 01:33.03 | citats | Markit: the make is the main part of it... make depend builds the list of dependancies so that if one of the header files changes then the makefile knows what needs to get rebuilt |
| 01:33.27 | citats | Markit: make will run 'make depend' if it hadnt been run or if it needs updating. |
| 01:33.55 | Pkunk | this happens everytime i try to make an outgoin call . it never goes through |
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| 01:35.10 | Markit | aoxo: since I want to compile asterisk CVS code, are you sure that apt-get buil-deps asterisk will get the right files for my sid debian? |
| 01:35.48 | Markit | mmm it does not recognize "build-deps" option |
| 01:35.49 | citats | Markit: just run 'apt-get install libssl-dev libnewt-dev libncurses5-dev' |
| 01:36.09 | Pkunk | could anyone who has iconnecthere setup as outgoing send me thier .conf files ? i tried every .conf in google and they don't work |
| 01:36.17 | aoxo | Markit, no, but its a good start |
| 01:37.10 | aoxo | Markit: and chances are high that it gets everything you need |
| 01:38.07 | Markit | aoxo: but "apt-get buil-deps asterisk" tells that it does not know what "build-deps" option is |
| 01:38.33 | aoxo | apt-get build-dep |
| 01:38.34 | aoxo | sorry |
| 01:40.08 | aoxo | Markit, comment in bash_completion in /etc/bash.bashrc and you are happy wiht apt-g|tab] bu[tab] ast[tab] ;-) |
| 01:40.15 | andio | oops, i forgot that: this night is one hour less over here... hm |
| 01:40.22 | Connor | Anyone use RT for order entry tracking? |
| 01:41.27 | aoxo | so, good night everybody |
| 01:41.36 | Markit | well, I've god a really strange message: " +---- Asterisk Installation Complete -------+" !!! ;))) |
| 01:42.02 | Markit | thanks a lot for your help, hope that now something can work fine from the beginnig ;) |
| 01:42.35 | Markit | vi not detailed compile info in the README file or in some site? I get so depressed :( |
| 01:43.12 | Markit | I've the feeling that without the patience and the help of some kind guy in the channel I can never succeed in doing something with asterisk :( |
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| 01:45.01 | Pkunk | Markit , i haven't been able to do anythin with it in 1 day |
| 01:45.19 | Pkunk | it doesn't seem to want to work for me |
| 01:46.06 | Markit | Pkunk: I'm taking really a huge amount of time to make asterisk work, belive me |
| 01:46.55 | Markit | that's why I'm so depressed... huge waste of time... one day just to try to recompile it to have zaptel.h changed |
| 01:49.30 | Pkunk | similar problem here , Markit . i have made 10,000 line programs myself , but i can't get this to work |
| 01:49.54 | Markit | Pkunk: you debian sid too? |
| 01:50.12 | Pkunk | heh debian is too easy |
| 01:50.19 | Pkunk | gentoo |
| 01:50.56 | Markit | Pkunk: you are a brave heart ;) |
| 01:51.18 | Pkunk | i'm very happy with gentoo actually |
| 01:51.29 | Pkunk | got 6 servers running on it , and best of all it works great |
| 01:51.30 | BoRiS2 | Wow....iLBC uses less bandwidth then GSM. |
| 01:52.28 | Pkunk | once u spend 2 days of your life setting it up its easy to admin |
| 01:52.42 | Markit | I had chan_capi alredy compiled and installed... do I have to do it again? |
| 01:53.29 | Pkunk | is my problem getting iconect to work because i am using the "official" 0.72 release ? |
| 01:56.39 | Pkunk | the problem with asterisk , Markit , seems to be the lack of good howto's |
| 01:57.21 | Markit | Pkunk: wiki is a good info place, but I've got a lot of troubles understanding the basics |
| 01:57.23 | tubbs | and examples |
| 01:57.45 | Pkunk | even google throws up only obscure messageboards which are far too technical |
| 01:58.19 | Markit | and had a certain waste of time due to outdated doc, and for a "I don't tell you that you have made a mistake" attitude of asterisk against extensons.conf ;) |
| 01:59.16 | Markit | Pkunk: we must admit that telephony is a new world, so we should master it's basic concepts first. Or maybe who writes asterisk doc thinks that everybody does |
| 02:00.06 | Markit | but when I receive help from this channel and helpful people that live here, I think that there can be a "asterisk for dummies" documentation |
| 02:00.29 | Markit | Pkunk: maybe they are waiting us to write it ;) |
| 02:00.35 | Pkunk | so far i have recieved none . everyone seems to be clueless |
| 02:01.22 | Markit | sorry, me too :( |
| 02:01.42 | Markit | I just make calls through ISDN card |
| 02:01.58 | jmb-ct__ | have you guys visited the wiki for help and docs ?? |
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| 02:02.54 | Markit | jmb-ct__: sure :) but when you are a beginner, you are so lost that you can't even find what to search, or understand what you have find, an how to combine the puzzle ;) |
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| 02:07.53 | mamcinty | Anyone using the Sipura ATA with an X100P? |
| 02:08.45 | jmb-ct__ | mamcinty why would you want to ? |
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| 02:09.47 | mamcinty | becasue I don't have the need for a full or fractional T1 or even iSDN |
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| 02:10.41 | jmb-ct__ | what are you trying to accomplish ??? VOIP -> FXS -> FXO -> Asterisk ?? |
| 02:10.50 | jmb-ct__ | why not just dooo VOIP -> Asterisk |
| 02:10.58 | mamcinty | I was just curious becasue I am having a problem that I have seen several other people on the list have had but there was no resolution to |
| 02:11.52 | jmb-ct__ | what problem are you having ? |
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| 02:12.41 | file[desk] | Bolonium! |
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