irclog2html for #asterisk on 20040412

`00:00.20`	`nikko`	`you frok non-stable source, you triple or quadruple developer time`
`00:00.38`	`nikko`	`somebody's always playing catch-up`
`00:00.42`	`*** part/#asterisk Kenneth (~ksc@63.105.129.26)`
`00:00.43`	`nikko`	`*fork`
`00:01.11`	`jcdutton`	`nikko: why are you suggesting a fork ?`
`00:01.55`	`*** join/#asterisk Poincare (~jeff@D577A8BF.kabel.telenet.be)`
`00:02.26`	`nikko`	`fork may be the wrong term, but if you want asterisk to run on multiple platforms you have work to do`
`00:02.49`	`alexander-`	`nikko: I want a port because I don't run Linux boxes, I don't like the dev environment, the source quality generaly sucks, and .. yah`
`00:03.15`	`nikko`	`i see`
`00:03.44`	`*** join/#asterisk wookie (~bob@203-118-167-111.adsl.ihug.co.nz)`
`00:10.28`	`michaell`	`Who can fetch me up a UTAH did number?`
`00:11.01`	`wookie`	`hi all,`
`00:11.04`	`wookie`	`opps..`
`00:11.08`	`michaell`	`h`
`00:11.09`	`michaell`	`i`
`00:11.44`	`twisted`	`l`
`00:11.46`	`twisted`	`o`
`00:11.49`	`wookie`	`i have just heard about asterisk. sounds interesting. besides having cheap phones calls what other benefits are there of this?`
`00:12.09`	`ken_`	`wookie: private pbx fo free`
`00:12.11`	`wookie`	`it was meant to go after the hi all, but got too trigger happy with the enter key`
`00:13.03`	`ken_`	`wookie: wardialer, auto dialer, super dialer, predictive dialer, call conferencing, call redirection, call management, call recording and archiving`
`00:13.07`	`wookie`	`what connections do you need to be a terminating server for peoples phone calls? unsure terminology.`
`00:13.28`	`wookie`	`wardialer!!!?!? i though that went out with the 80's! ;)`
`00:13.29`	`alexander-`	`izoo: do you have any contact info on the person writing the driver?`
`00:13.34`	`SplasPood`	`nikko: why does asterisk/digium talk about running asterisk under BSD then?`
`00:13.39`	`ken_`	`wookie: some kind of carrier bridge, the term is FXO device and FXS device`
`00:13.39`	`twisted`	`lol`
`00:13.42`	`twisted`	`i remember wardialing.`
`00:13.49`	`twisted`	`that was fun`
`00:13.59`	`izoo`	`wookie_ : prepaid,postpaid,calling card, call shop , voip termination, voip origination`
`00:14.02`	`wookie`	`so does it pluyg from computer to your own telephone line?`
`00:14.14`	`ken_`	`wookie: yes, there is hardware for that`
`00:14.19`	`izoo`	`alexander- : nope but dig through the mailing list there should be something`
`00:14.34`	`wookie`	`so people form overseas can call into your phone from internet`
`00:14.35`	`wookie`	`?`
`00:14.49`	`wookie`	`to someone else in the country you are hosting in?`
`00:15.00`	`ken_`	`wookie: yes`
`00:15.07`	`wookie`	`how does billing occur?`
`00:15.24`	`alexander-`	`izoo: werd, thanks.`
`00:15.25`	`ken_`	`depends on how you set it up?`
`00:16.12`	`wookie`	`so i ring say the states....and i get charge for the bit from the end server to who ever i am calling..they bill me direct??`
`00:16.28`	`ken_`	`your termination provider bills you`
`00:16.52`	`ken_`	`the person providing the Asterisk call termination to the PSTN (the regular telephone network)`
`00:17.06`	`wookie`	`so he has to know how much calls are and thus bill accordingly?`
`00:17.19`	`ken_`	`wookie: but that's easily tracked`
`00:17.49`	`wookie`	`ok....since most countries dont have free calling unlike NZ...can anyone say FREE phone calls to new zealand?`
`00:17.54`	`ken_`	`damn the phones are ringing off the hook here...`
`00:18.21`	`wookie`	`i guess the question is...does anyone know someone in NZ?!?! ;)`
`00:18.55`	`michaell`	`ken_: send some calls this way`
`00:18.58`	`ken_`	`wookie: i highly doubt it -- they probably can offer substantially reduced rates, but it still costs money to put in a POP somewhere and for electricity, internet connection, hardware, and personel`
`00:19.24`	`ken_`	`michaell: i'm in a callcenter its closed for the day, being easter and all, but we still get a lot of support calls...`
`00:19.54`	`ken_`	`michaell: what would you do with the calls anyways?`
`00:19.59`	`michaell`	`ken_: where you work?`
`00:20.07`	`nikko`	`i don't know, I'm not arguing against its use on free bsd`
`00:20.08`	`ken_`	`somewhere over the rainbow`
`00:20.16`	`izoo`	`ken_ : is your call center * based ?`
`00:20.25`	`ken_`	`izoo: nope`
`00:20.37`	`ken_`	`izoo: we're thinking about it though`
`00:20.39`	`izoo`	`ken_ : you mean not yet ! ;-)`
`00:21.00`	`ken_`	`izoo: i've written some "nice" applications in asterisk`
`00:21.06`	`ken_`	`php, actually...`
`00:21.08`	`ken_`	`php is fun`
`00:21.25`	`izoo`	`ql`
`00:21.29`	`wookie`	`i guess it is a cheap way to make yourself a tellephone company!! how many termination serves are there around the world?`
`00:21.32`	`file`	`what's some wifi aps that run Linux... model numbers please`
`00:21.48`	`izoo`	`wrt54g`
`00:21.53`	`file`	`already checked that`
`00:22.00`	`izoo`	`& ?`
`00:22.19`	`file`	`only one available in Canada on eBay`
`00:22.22`	`ken_`	`wookie: not really the best way to do it though...`
`00:22.36`	`izoo`	`file: but its the best`
`00:22.38`	`ken_`	`wookie: you have to contend with the quality of service to various parts of the world, and to even locals`
`00:22.53`	`file`	`but they all use the same base hardware licensed from the same place...`
`00:22.54`	`ken_`	`going with a national carrier at least provides a certain guarantee of call quality`
`00:22.57`	`izoo`	`voip over internet works just fine`
`00:23.03`	`izoo`	`most of the time`
`00:23.19`	`wookie`	`so who is asterisk amied at, not local janet and john users then`
`00:24.18`	`ken_`	`izoo: i'm really looking forward to tapping into AT&T's network`
`00:24.32`	`ken_`	`they launched last month... it has high potential...`
`00:24.44`	`michaell`	`att has been around fo rmany years`
`00:24.57`	`ken_`	`michaell: yeah, but their VoIP stuff only since last month`
`00:25.04`	`michaell`	`yeah`
`00:25.12`	`*** join/#asterisk Kumbang (~unknown@167.205.22.54)`
`00:25.20`	`ken_`	`even though they've been routing calls over the net since at least '97`
`00:29.29`	`perlslinger`	`what else runs Linux in an embedded format...`
`00:29.45`	`*** join/#asterisk iseeu (~Jimmy@m083-.nv.iinet.net.au)`
`00:30.35`	`alexander-`	`perlslinger: for what?`
`00:30.50`	`perlslinger`	`alexander-: anything, throw me ideas`
`00:31.14`	`ken_`	`perlslinger: pdas, cellphones, various stuff...`
`00:31.30`	`perlslinger`	`okay let's limit to routers`
`00:31.31`	`ken_`	`www.linuxdevices.com`
`00:32.24`	`alexander-`	`perlslinger: it runs on a shitload of devices, especially embedded routers.`
`00:32.39`	`perlslinger`	`yeah I'm looking to mess around with a router that runs it`
`00:32.43`	`perlslinger`	`just need to find an affordable one`
`00:32.58`	`alexander-`	`just buy a soekris board, and do whatever you want with it.`
`00:33.36`	`perlslinger`	`very interesting`
`00:40.26`	`negative3`	`at&T has been largely not over the internet`
`00:40.36`	`negative3`	`but over their private networks`
`00:43.13`	`negative3`	`so how is everyone's easter?`
`00:46.52`	`negative3`	`no one here i guess`
`00:48.23`	`iseeu`	`im here dude`
`00:48.31`	`iseeu`	`easter was ok`
`00:51.25`	`*** join/#asterisk snewpy_ (~markl@dsl-202-173-156-4.vic.westnet.com.au)`
`00:53.41`	`*** join/#asterisk Anon (~einstein@dsl-pool1-227.prolynx.com)`
`00:53.52`	`Anon`	`Hello all.`
`00:54.26`	`negative3`	`Hello Anon`
`00:55.23`	`negative3`	`what's up?`
`00:55.50`	`Anon`	`As described above, * is not happy when it boots.`
`00:56.05`	`Anon`	`I have not a clue tey why. :(`
`00:56.07`	`negative3`	`<Anon> Hello all.`
`00:56.07`	`negative3`	`<negative3> Hello Anon`
`00:56.07`	`negative3`	`<negative3> what's up?`
`00:56.07`	`negative3`	`<Anon> As described above, * is not happy when it boots.`
`00:56.12`	`negative3`	`that's all i see`
`00:57.15`	`Anon`	`negative3: Are you saying you do not see my detailed problem description?`
`00:59.26`	`ken_`	`hahah... interesting use of asterisk agi...`
`00:59.38`	`ken_`	`checking away status on aim and if so, redirecting to voicemail...`
`00:59.47`	`Anon`	`??`
`00:59.51`	`ken_`	`http://www.reinvented.net/labs/index.php`
`00:59.58`	`ken_`	`scroll down a little bit`
`01:00.07`	`Anon`	`OK...`
`01:01.05`	`Anon`	`That is odd... Interesting though.`
`01:01.37`	`Anon`	`Any one have a clue to help on my * problem?`
`01:02.54`	`wookie`	`does anyone use this personally as opposed to setting up call centres etc?`
`01:04.38`	`Anon`	`Not yet. I am just working to get a VERY basic setup running.`
`01:05.45`	`biot`	`wookie: what, * in general? I do`
`01:06.02`	`Anon`	`I had all this working about 8 months ago (before my * box died), then my time was diverted to other projects.`
`01:07.09`	`Anon`	`Now I'm using the CVS from a couple nights ago, and the old * setup from the dead box does not work. :(`
`01:07.13`	`wookie`	`biot: what direct benefits are yougetting from it? where do i find a listof terminating servers so i can find out wher ei can call overseas for chepa!`
`01:07.43`	`biot`	`wookie: well I'm just using it for voicemail really... but there are lots of services you can use for that`
`01:07.56`	`biot`	`depends on where you live, you need a local company to offer local termination service`
`01:08.37`	`wookie`	`is there a consolidated list of local termination companies?`
`01:08.38`	`biot`	`if you want to call the US for cheap, I guess something like vonage or voicepulse`
`01:08.47`	`biot`	`and probably a zillion other services like it`
`01:09.01`	`biot`	`there is one that I saw the other day, can't remember the URL though`
`01:09.33`	`biot`	`ah here`
`01:09.33`	`wookie`	`how much bandwidth does a typical VOIP call take?`
`01:09.35`	`biot`	`http://www.voipproviderslist.com/`
`01:09.43`	`biot`	`it's not very good, but they have lists`
`01:09.50`	`biot`	`bw used depends on the codec you use`
`01:10.19`	`twisted`	`ken: that IS interesting use for AGI`
`01:10.20`	`twisted`	`brb`
`01:11.09`	`Shido6`	`is there a calledpartyid num variable?`
`01:11.27`	`wookie`	`so about 5kB/s or 15kB/s?`
`01:11.32`	`h3x`	`${EXTEN} ? heh`
`01:11.38`	`*** join/#asterisk zoa (~john@213.219.141.45)`
`01:11.44`	`Shido6`	`hrh`
`01:11.48`	`twisted`	`shido6: for like, incoming calls?`
`01:12.06`	`Shido6`	`yes`
`01:12.06`	`twisted`	`like ${DNID} ?`
`01:12.12`	`Shido6`	`DNID?`
`01:12.20`	`twisted`	`Dialed Number ID`
`01:12.24`	`Shido6`	`yeah`
`01:12.29`	`twisted`	`that's the variable`
`01:12.30`	`Shido6`	`DNID doesnt exist does it?`
`01:12.36`	`twisted`	`try it`
`01:12.42`	`twisted`	`do a NoOp(${DNID}`
`01:13.08`	`*** join/#asterisk BoRiS2 (~boris@h24-77-165-150.wp.shawcable.net)`
`01:13.11`	`twisted`	`${DNID} Dialed Number Identifier`
`01:13.14`	`twisted`	`from README.variables`
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`01:22.07`	`fbnts`	`has anyone updated the app_queue.c file to enable the queue position counting?`
`01:24.00`	`*** join/#asterisk draconius (~j00@12-218-60-36.client.mchsi.com)`
`01:29.18`	`file`	`one pill makes you small`
`01:29.25`	`file`	`and the ones that mother gives you don't do anything at all`
`01:29.33`	`file`	`go ask Alice... when she's ten feet tall`
`01:30.13`	`trelane`	`jefferson airplane - white rabbit`
`01:30.33`	`file`	`how about this one...`
`01:30.34`	`trelane`	`that wasn't particularly hard, I know that one by heart`
`01:30.37`	`trelane`	`fucked up song`
`01:31.29`	`file`	`sing about you it feels good to be alive`
`01:31.45`	`file`	`there is no other place I want to be...`
`01:31.50`	`*** join/#asterisk NirS (~nirs@220.194.50.148)`
`01:31.56`	`file`	`watching the world wake up from history`
`01:31.56`	`NirS`	`hello all`
`01:31.59`	`NirS`	`anybody home ?`
`01:32.00`	`file`	`hi`
`01:32.03`	`trelane`	`hey`
`01:32.04`	`trelane`	`nfi`
`01:32.06`	`trelane`	`too sappy for my taste`
`01:32.12`	`file`	`we're doing "guess the song name from the lyrics"`
`01:32.16`	`file`	`right here right now, jesus jones`
`01:32.24`	`trelane`	`aah no chance I'd get that`
`01:32.27`	`file`	`let's try another`
`01:32.27`	`NirS`	`sheesh`
`01:32.30`	`twisted`	`geez`
`01:32.32`	`twisted`	`that's weak.`
`01:32.38`	`NirS`	`since when the asterisk room became the trivia room ?`
`01:32.46`	`file`	`NirS: since it went dead`
`01:32.49`	`twisted`	`that one is used currently in a commercial.`
`01:32.49`	`trelane`	`NirS, since 8:30 pm easter sunday`
`01:32.50`	`file`	`what are you looking at?`
`01:32.52`	`trelane`	`it's dead`
`01:32.53`	`NirS`	`#asterisk=$trivia ?`
`01:33.05`	`*** part/#asterisk wookie (~bob@203-118-167-111.adsl.ihug.co.nz)`
`01:33.10`	`NirS`	`#asterisk=#trivia ?`
`01:33.24`	`NirS`	`ok, geek question`
`01:33.36`	`file`	`strike a pose!`
`01:33.41`	`BoRiS2`	`Vogue!`
`01:33.42`	`NirS`	`anyone know a good Chinese SS7 to EuroISDN converter ?`
`01:33.45`	`twisted`	`vogue - madonna`
`01:33.46`	`file`	`BoRiS2: good.`
`01:34.01`	`twisted`	`here's one`
`01:34.02`	`BoRiS2`	`Gotta love her early stuff.`
`01:34.07`	`twisted`	`two steps forward, one step back.`
`01:34.10`	`file`	`BoRiS2: yeah`
`01:34.17`	`NirS`	`paukla abdol`
`01:34.19`	`twisted`	`we come together`
`01:34.31`	`NirS`	`right twisted`
`01:34.32`	`twisted`	`lol`
`01:34.38`	`twisted`	`name the song`
`01:34.38`	`file`	`here's another...`
`01:34.48`	`file`	`you and I in a little toy shop buy a bag of balloons with the money we've got`
`01:34.51`	`file`	`set them free at the brink of dawn`
`01:35.02`	`NirS`	`99 red balons ?`
`01:35.05`	`NirS`	`nina ?`
`01:35.08`	`BoRiS2`	`yup`
`01:35.09`	`file`	`NirS: good, and it's german name?`
`01:35.10`	`twisted`	`duh`
`01:35.14`	`twisted`	`99 luftballons`
`01:35.19`	`file`	`good good`
`01:35.26`	`NirS`	`it's got a hebrew version`
`01:35.28`	`file`	`who wants to go next?`
`01:35.30`	`NirS`	`:)`
`01:35.34`	`NirS`	`it's a very sad song`
`01:35.53`	`BoRiS2`	`Taaaaaaaaaaaake oooooooooon meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, Taaaaaaaaaaaaaake on me!`
`01:35.58`	`twisted`	`and NirS: to answer your question: No.`
`01:36.01`	`NirS`	`ddddddddddaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa`
`01:36.10`	`NirS`	`like the most famous mp3 file ever`
`01:36.12`	`file`	`oh wait here's one`
`01:36.17`	`file`	`it's been a long road... getting from there to here`
`01:36.24`	`file`	`it's been a long time... but my time is finally near`
`01:36.32`	`file`	`I can feel the change in wind right now nothing's in my way`
`01:36.41`	`BoRiS2`	`I'll just shoutcast my 80's mp3 set :)`
`01:36.41`	`NirS`	`oh, sounds like a peter gabriel shit`
`01:36.42`	`file`	`and they're not gonna hold me down no more no they're not gonna hold me down`
`01:36.44`	`twisted`	`lol`
`01:36.45`	`NirS`	`or elvis costelo`
`01:36.54`	`file`	`it's the theme song to Star Trek: Enterprise`
`01:37.04`	`BoRiS2`	`I dont like that intro music`
`01:37.11`	`NirS`	`oh yaeh, the crap I don't watch`
`01:37.13`	`file`	`original version, not the newer`
`01:37.16`	`twisted`	`file:`
`01:37.19`	`twisted`	`russel watson`
`01:37.25`	`file`	`twisted: good.`
`01:37.26`	`twisted`	`where my heart will take me`
`01:37.35`	`file`	`well, faith of the heart`
`01:37.40`	`twisted`	`aka`
`01:37.41`	`file`	`close enough though`
`01:37.42`	`NirS`	`need to go`
`01:37.44`	`NirS`	`c'ya`
`01:37.47`	`twisted`	`later nirs`
`01:37.52`	`BoRiS2`	`I only liked the original star trek, TNG and Voyager`
`01:38.01`	`file`	`I miss voyager`
`01:38.15`	`file`	`oh right here's an old one...`
`01:38.16`	`BoRiS2`	`I really dont like this prequal`
`01:38.33`	`*** part/#asterisk Anon (~einstein@dsl-pool1-227.prolynx.com)`
`01:38.34`	`file`	`good sense innocense cripple man kind`
`01:38.38`	`Legend`	`BoRiS2: stewiefm already does that`
`01:38.47`	`file`	`the color of time... who cares what games we choose`
`01:38.51`	`file`	`little to win but nothing to lose`
`01:39.00`	`*** join/#asterisk marlowe_ (~marlowe@ool-4351dcf8.dyn.optonline.net)`
`01:39.09`	`file`	`often used in Austin Powers.`
`01:39.21`	`twisted`	`incense and peppermints`
`01:39.27`	`file`	`indeed`
`01:39.28`	`twisted`	`strawberry alarm clock`
`01:39.33`	`*** join/#asterisk zotzz (~zotzz@24.231.36.159)`
`01:39.37`	`BoRiS2`	`starberry short cake?`
`01:39.39`	`twisted`	`LOL`
`01:39.41`	`*** join/#asterisk yaboo (~jsirucka@203-213-113-146-vic.tpgi.com.au)`
`01:39.43`	`BoRiS2`	`strawberry`
`01:39.57`	`file`	`listen baby...`
`01:39.58`	`twisted`	`~thwack legend`
`01:40.00`	`jbot`	`ACTION beats legend with a toaster in the thumb`
`01:40.01`	`BoRiS2`	`Jem and the Holigrams...........their truely outrageous`
`01:40.05`	`file`	`ain't no mountain high, ain't no valley low ain't no river wide enough baby`
`01:40.06`	`twisted`	`hahahahahahahah`
`01:40.10`	`file`	`if you need me call me, no matter where you are`
`01:40.10`	`BoRiS2`	`haha`
`01:40.12`	`file`	`no matter how far!`
`01:40.20`	`twisted`	`file: stop it with the bad commercial/movie songs`
`01:40.24`	`file`	`twisted: haha`
`01:40.41`	`twisted`	`i like me some classical too`
`01:41.03`	`file`	`ooh...`
`01:41.11`	`BoRiS2`	`HeMan.....And the masters of the uuuuuniverse.`
`01:41.16`	`file`	`it's astounding... time is fleeting... madness... takes it's toll!`
`01:41.28`	`file`	`but listen closely... not for very much longer... I've got to keep control!`
`01:41.36`	`BoRiS2`	`<Mute>`
`01:41.47`	`BoRiS2`	`hehe`
`01:42.18`	`file`	`this one nobody will get`
`01:42.25`	`file`	`and then I'm done.`
`01:42.33`	`twisted`	`file: that's from rocky horror`
`01:42.37`	`twisted`	`time warp`
`01:42.39`	`file`	`I sincerely miss those heavy metal bands`
`01:42.47`	`file`	`she fell in love with a drummer, she fell in love with a drummer, she fell in love`
`01:42.54`	`file`	`shiny shiny pants and bleached blond hair`
`01:43.01`	`ProtocoLD`	`.`
`01:43.06`	`file`	`she fell in love with a drummer, another and another, she fell in love`
`01:43.30`	`twisted`	`file: that's wilco`
`01:43.39`	`file`	`twisted: damn good`
`01:44.32`	`file`	`back to Enya`
`01:44.37`	`twisted`	`nah... but if i keep watching jessica simpson's boobies, i'm gonna be supersized`
`01:44.55`	`file`	`oh it's just what's his name, and the other what's his name`
`01:45.02`	`twisted`	`yeah`
`01:45.06`	`twisted`	`for now`
`01:45.08`	`twisted`	`give it a minute`
`01:45.17`	`file`	`she is dumb as a nail but damn fine`
`01:45.17`	`twisted`	`she has masterd the art of keeping her boobs in plain view`
`01:45.41`	`twisted`	`i was gonna say dumb as a doorknob`
`01:45.50`	`twisted`	`but then again, i haven't gotten my turn`
`01:46.06`	`file`	`you take the white guy, I'll take the black guy`
`01:46.09`	`chapster`	`Jessica is certainly hot. And, smart or not, she has a hell of a lot more money than I do.`
`01:46.10`	`twisted`	`hahahaha`
`01:46.16`	`twisted`	`this is true`
`01:46.20`	`file`	`indeed`
`01:46.30`	`twisted`	`i honestly think she's putting on a show with that whole dumb thing`
`01:46.41`	`chapster`	`probably.`
`01:46.51`	`file`	`sometimes it's just too dumb to be true`
`01:47.02`	`twisted`	`i mean, the general populus of men go GAGA for dumb blondes`
`01:47.19`	`twisted`	`personally, if she were a phd or something, i'd track her ass down`
`01:47.20`	`*** join/#asterisk kashmish (~guest@ip68-98-138-8.dc.dc.cox.net)`
`01:47.21`	`chapster`	`On SNL, she did quite well with the skits, and you have to be reasonably smart to keep up.`
`01:47.34`	`twisted`	`she's doing pretty damned good with this variety show`
`01:47.55`	`michaell`	`Anyone know how to unlock this vonage ata?`
`01:47.57`	`chapster`	`I saw it in the tv listings, but the kids and I were watching a movie.`
`01:48.00`	`file`	`she's hitting notes that annoy me`
`01:48.02`	`twisted`	`lol`
`01:48.07`	`kashmish`	`any suggestions for a good/free windows softphone to use with asterisk??`
`01:48.18`	`twisted`	`kashmish: x-lite/x-pro or sjphone works great`
`01:48.19`	`michaell`	`xlite works`
`01:48.20`	`twisted`	`of if you wanna pay`
`01:48.22`	`BoRiS2`	`x-lite`
`01:48.26`	`twisted`	`estara softphone works really nicely`
`01:48.36`	`file`	`michaell: no to your unlocking question.`
`01:48.38`	`kashmish`	`i see... cool, thx!`
`01:48.42`	`michaell`	`darn`
`01:48.55`	`michaell`	`My friend has this ata he bought from vonage and he cannecled service`
`01:49.02`	`michaell`	`but now he has a doorstep and he's blind`
`01:49.05`	`twisted`	`michaell: i'm thinking you might be able to trick it into updating it's firmware and config by tftp with your dhcp server.`
`01:49.06`	`file`	`twisted: I wonder what she's had done for cosmetic surgery`
`01:49.06`	`michaell`	`so its useless`
`01:49.16`	`twisted`	`file: supposedly nothing`
`01:49.28`	`file`	`twisted: yeah, right`
`01:49.30`	`michaell`	`Its useless to a blind person for much of anythign else`
`01:49.54`	`file`	`her face is like... a doll's`
`01:50.05`	`twisted`	`and?`
`01:50.11`	`twisted`	`can't a girl be naturally good looking w/o cosmetic surgery?`
`01:50.12`	`file`	`unnatural`
`01:50.12`	`file`	`LOL`
`01:50.15`	`file`	`no`
`01:50.22`	`file`	`it's against nature, there's almost some sort of imperfection`
`01:50.30`	`twisted`	`you need to some see some of the women at my former job`
`01:50.38`	`file`	`we're just too blinded to see it`
`01:50.47`	`twisted`	`and trust me, if they're working there, they can't afford the surgery`
`01:50.50`	`file`	`is this a one time thing btw?`
`01:50.56`	`file`	`the variety show`
`01:50.58`	`twisted`	`file: hopefully`
`01:51.43`	`twisted`	`michaell: if you want to send it to me, I can try to unlock it... but I can't guarantee anything`
`01:51.50`	`michaell`	`thats ok`
`01:51.54`	`twisted`	`ok`
`01:52.02`	`twisted`	`was gonna say`
`01:52.09`	`twisted`	`at least i could try to get it working, instead of using it as a doorstop`
`01:52.14`	`twisted`	`it's a nifty piece of hardware`
`01:52.15`	`chapster`	`I have met a few girls that were almost flawless naturally, but most girls that look that good have had enhancements. I don't have a problem with it- even my 13 year old son appreciates plastic surgery. :)`
`01:52.26`	`michaell`	`it is`
`01:52.31`	`michaell`	`but I doubt i'll get it back`
`01:52.37`	`twisted`	`umm`
`01:52.37`	`twisted`	`gee`
`01:52.38`	`twisted`	`thanks.`
`01:52.47`	`chapster`	`that was COLD.`
`01:52.50`	`twisted`	`that was real cold.`
`01:53.00`	`file`	`that would probably work`
`01:53.34`	`file`	`but I'm not going to say it because of what you said michaell`
`01:53.37`	`twisted`	`here we go`
`01:53.38`	`twisted`	`the test`
`01:53.42`	`twisted`	`childhood pictures`
`01:54.05`	`michaell`	`lol`
`01:54.08`	`file`	`this sounds rehearsed`
`01:54.16`	`file`	`ooooooh`
`01:54.27`	`michaell`	`file: You never know. people on the net trick people into doing things. You never know file`
`01:54.46`	`twisted`	`wow...`
`01:54.49`	`file`	`oh god... not this song`
`01:54.50`	`chapster`	`um UM... that was some damn good apple pie. My wife can cook, now!`
`01:55.22`	`twisted`	`except for the fact that I've been a regular in here for quite some time, quite a few people know me in person, etc... yadda yadda... but whatever man.`
`01:55.38`	`file`	`twisted: unless it's all a massive conspiracy to get the ATA`
`01:55.42`	`twisted`	`LOL`
`01:55.43`	`twisted`	`oh yeah`
`01:55.51`	`twisted`	`you found me out`
`01:55.59`	`file`	`give me your ata so I can h3x0r it up!`
`01:55.59`	`twisted`	`i'm in here trying to con one ata-186/188 out of someone`
`01:56.06`	`*** join/#asterisk brent21 (~brent21@host217-44-65-217.range217-44.btcentralplus.com)`
`01:56.09`	`citats`	`this whole asterisk project is just a front so twisted can get a single piece of hardware :)`
`01:56.09`	`*** join/#asterisk BoRiS3 (~boris@h24-77-165-150.wp.shawcable.net)`
`01:56.13`	`twisted`	`yep.`
`01:56.16`	`twisted`	`that's entirely it.`
`01:56.30`	`citats`	`actually the other 220 people in here are all of twisted's bots`
`01:56.39`	`citats`	`including me`
`01:56.41`	`file`	`we're all AI bots controlled by twisted`
`01:56.50`	`michaell`	`we are?`
`01:56.59`	`file`	`you aren't, we are`
`01:56.59`	`twisted`	`shit.`
`01:57.00`	`brent21`	`All hail twisted and buy hardware`
`01:57.02`	`twisted`	`my nextel is dying`
`01:57.04`	`chapster`	`twisted: what do you want me to say now?`
`01:57.11`	`citats`	`file: poses a philisophical question... if we are true AI does twisted control us?`
`01:57.24`	`file`	`citats: unless we control him, then we control ourselves`
`01:57.26`	`file`	`via proxy.`
`01:57.46`	`*** join/#asterisk RoyK (~roy@30.80-202-161.nextgentel.com)`
`01:57.55`	`twisted`	`hahaha`
`01:58.08`	`twisted`	`"I HAVE THE POWAH!!"`
`01:58.22`	`BoRiS2`	`Its gettin...Its gettin....Its gettin kinda heavy.`
`01:58.28`	`file`	`The Fifth Element on TBS!`
`01:58.49`	`*** join/#asterisk cypromis (~michael@217.11.142.161)`
`01:58.53`	`citats`	`file: whats really funny is my gf is upstairs watching that on dvd, and i come downstairs and pop on the tv and its on tbs too :)`
`01:59.03`	`twisted`	`tbs is the shit.`
`01:59.04`	`chapster`	`The Fifth Element was good. The girl.. forget her name.. oh, not much boob, but I quite liked her!`
`01:59.04`	`brent21`	`I started seeing 99% CPU utilization from an Asterisk process and upgraded to yesterday's stable CVS and am still seeing the same problem.. Has anyone else seen this isuee before or have any ideas where to begin trouble shooting?`
`01:59.05`	`file`	`haha`
`01:59.15`	`citats`	`chapster: Milla`
`01:59.19`	`citats`	`yummy`
`01:59.24`	`BoRiS2`	`Jovich`
`01:59.41`	`citats`	`BoRiS2: another ov in there or something`
`02:00.17`	`denon`	`so .. Holiday Inn does somethin funky to their ethernet`
`02:00.24`	`denon`	`cisco 7960 wont dhcp an IP from em`
`02:00.41`	`denon`	`but my laptop works fine`
`02:00.44`	`BoRiS2`	`What are you doing at the holliday inn?`
`02:00.49`	`denon`	`they even pass grp`
`02:01.00`	`denon`	`BoRiS2: swimming a minute ago, sleeping soon`
`02:01.17`	`twisted`	`Jovovich`
`02:01.24`	`twisted`	`or whatever`
`02:01.24`	`chapster`	`yep.`
`02:01.25`	`citats`	`twisted: that looks right`
`02:01.36`	`denon`	`wonder why the 7960 wont get an ip tho`
`02:01.36`	`chapster`	`http://www.millaj.com/gallery_index.html`
`02:01.39`	`twisted`	`she's a h double-o tt eye e!`
`02:01.40`	`denon`	`seeems odd`
`02:01.51`	`denon`	`maybe they have some kinda mac filter`
`02:03.50`	`BoRiS2`	`ugh`
`02:04.19`	`BoRiS2`	`How much are those cisco 7960 phones?`
`02:04.42`	`*** part/#asterisk cypromis (~michael@217.11.142.161)`
`02:05.21`	`marlowe_`	`ebay it`
`02:05.21`	`marlowe_`	`350`
`02:05.41`	`marlowe_`	`If you get lucky, maybe less... maybe more :)`
`02:05.51`	`*** part/#asterisk kashmish (~guest@ip68-98-138-8.dc.dc.cox.net)`
`02:06.18`	`denon`	`but they dont work at the holiday inn..`
`02:06.23`	`denon`	`so dont bother getting one. :)`
`02:06.26`	`twisted`	`werd`
`02:06.30`	`twisted`	`got linux on my wrt54g now :)`
`02:07.06`	`twisted`	`incoming flood`
`02:07.10`	`twisted`	`system type : Broadcom BCM947XX`
`02:07.10`	`twisted`	`processor : 0`
`02:07.10`	`twisted`	`cpu model : BCM4710 V0.0`
`02:07.10`	`twisted`	`BogoMIPS : 82.94`
`02:07.13`	`twisted`	`wait instruction : no`
`02:07.13`	`twisted`	`microsecond timers : yes`
`02:07.17`	`twisted`	`tlb_entries : 32`
`02:07.17`	`twisted`	`extra interrupt vector : no`
`02:07.22`	`twisted`	`hardware watchpoint : no`
`02:07.22`	`twisted`	`VCED exceptions : not available`
`02:07.29`	`twisted`	`VCEI exceptions : not available`
`02:07.31`	`twisted`	`dcache hits : 3501452407`
`02:07.33`	`twisted`	`dcache misses : 1696893073`
`02:07.35`	`twisted`	`icache hits : 3741957689`
`02:07.37`	`twisted`	`icache misses : 3324430052`
`02:07.41`	`twisted`	`instructions : 2802219821`
`02:07.56`	`perlslinger`	`it was slow, it was buggy, so they wrote it again, and now it's up to OS 10!`
`02:08.30`	`*** join/#asterisk wG\|bastion666 (gadams666@adsl-158-39-89.asm.bellsouth.net)`
`02:08.35`	`twisted`	`Linux version 2.4.20 (root@honor) (gcc version 3.0 20010422 (prerelease) with bcm4710a0 modifications) #10 Tue Jan 6 17:49:25 CST 2004`
`02:08.36`	`BoRiS2`	`Someone needs to get that broadcom wireless network driver source for linux :)`
`02:08.42`	`twisted`	`wow`
`02:08.43`	`*** part/#asterisk wG\|bastion666 (gadams666@adsl-158-39-89.asm.bellsouth.net)`
`02:08.48`	`perlslinger`	`nifty`
`02:08.48`	`twisted`	`i should recompile the kernel on my router`
`02:09.00`	`twisted`	`boris2: for what, the dell laptops?`
`02:09.05`	`twisted`	`and the truemobile card?`
`02:09.33`	`BoRiS2`	`yes`
`02:09.36`	`twisted`	`hahaha`
`02:09.38`	`twisted`	`that's what i'm running`
`02:09.42`	`BoRiS2`	`Instead of using ndiswrapper`
`02:09.46`	`twisted`	`oh`
`02:09.48`	`twisted`	`n/m`
`02:09.51`	`twisted`	`:P`
`02:09.54`	`BoRiS2`	`what?`
`02:10.06`	`twisted`	`i'm using ndiswrapper`
`02:10.14`	`marlowe_`	`2.6 has support`
`02:10.38`	`BoRiS2`	`I have used ndiswrapper and it works nicely`
`02:11.04`	`twisted`	`marlowe: no it doesn't`
`02:11.06`	`BoRiS2`	`Someone should just reverse engineer it using ndiswrapper and make a working dirver`
`02:11.24`	`BoRiS2`	`The broadcom ethernet 44xxx series is supported but its not the same as the wireless`
`02:11.26`	`twisted`	`i'm using 2.6, and there is nothing in this kernel for the truemobile cards`
`02:11.43`	`BoRiS2`	`For some reason, broadcom is being an ass.`
`02:12.07`	`BoRiS2`	`even thought they had a HUGE petition for them to either release their specs or write and open source driver`
`02:12.14`	`marlowe_`	`Oh my bad.. lol ok`
`02:12.16`	`marlowe_`	`I read wrong.`
`02:12.46`	`marlowe_`	`Sort of saw dell, and network.`
`02:12.51`	`Markit`	`anyone using the new mISDN with fritz card? kernel 2.6`
`02:13.19`	`Markit`	`(modular ISDN kernel modules)`
`02:14.46`	`twisted`	`hmmm`
`02:15.03`	`twisted`	`so i wonder if i modified the udhcpcd.conf on the wrt54g to point at my tftp server, if it would keep that setting`
`02:15.08`	`twisted`	`/tmp/udhcpcd.conf`
`02:15.38`	`marlowe_`	`Im gonna start messing with that soon twisted... Gonna do everything we talked about`
`02:15.47`	`twisted`	`marlowe: werd.`
`02:16.06`	`marlowe_`	`I gotta clear my mind and work on it for a day. I swear, that'll make my life so much easier.`
`02:16.07`	`marlowe_`	`And cooler :)`
`02:16.57`	`marlowe_`	`jbot, spell aquaintance`
`02:16.59`	`jbot`	`possible spellings for aquaintance: acquaintance acquaintances acquaintance's acquittance`
`02:17.03`	`marlowe_`	`lol`
`02:17.20`	`marlowe_`	`i was close`
`02:20.07`	`twisted`	`the module wl.o is a wavelan module isn't it?`
`02:21.18`	`twisted`	`omfg`
`02:22.50`	`twisted`	`this is in the header for the wrt54g's configuration pages`
`02:22.52`	`twisted`	`This software should be used as a reference only, and it not`
`02:22.53`	`twisted`	`intended for production use!`
`02:22.56`	`twisted`	`lol`
`02:23.06`	`twisted`	`looks like cisco is breaking some sort of licensing agreement`
`02:28.18`	`*** join/#asterisk Kumbang (~unknown@167.205.22.54)`
`02:40.03`	`*** join/#asterisk Legend (~Legend@24.244.142.133)`
`02:45.35`	`*** join/#asterisk brc007 (~brc007@ip68-228-192-48.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`02:45.53`	`brc007`	`CRAP!`
`02:45.55`	`brc007`	`sigh`
`02:46.02`	`brc007`	`somebody is spamming and spoofing my domain as the from`
`02:46.54`	`chapster`	`brc007: Yep, that sucks. I am looking forward to wide implementation of SPF.`
`02:47.08`	`twisted`	`brc: they do it to me all the time`
`02:50.22`	`chapster`	`It is really fun to get mails to yourself, from yourself.`
`02:53.28`	`brc007`	`back`
`02:53.31`	`brc007`	`SPF?`
`02:53.41`	`brc007`	`twisted: ya figure anything to do about it?`
`02:53.48`	`twisted`	`brc007: yeah.. nothing.`
`02:53.53`	`brc007`	`hunt them down and try to send them nasty letters I guess`
`02:54.03`	`twisted`	`anyone who knows anything can read the headers and know it's not really from you`
`02:54.17`	`chapster`	`It is rare the person that even knows headers exist.`
`02:54.26`	`brc007`	`though when their going through a relay in china then the phillippines then india then grannies PC that oculd be hard`
`02:54.42`	`twisted`	`not if you know how to read the headers.`
`02:54.44`	`chapster`	`spf --> http://spf.pobox.com/`
`02:54.52`	`brc007`	`thanks`
`02:55.30`	`chapster`	`NP.`
`02:55.33`	`brc007`	`they've been doing it with v1@gr@ spam for awhile but somebody just sent out no less then 5 versions of a virus :\|`
`02:55.58`	`citats`	`brc007: well i wouldnt blame somebody... i'd blame some piece of software :)`
`02:56.12`	`bkw_`	`MOOOSE PENIS!!!`
`02:56.15`	`brc007`	`heh`
`02:56.25`	`brc007`	`it's a .pif file...gonna try to figure out what virus it is`
`02:56.40`	`citats`	`gee thats a tough one`
`02:56.49`	`citats`	`either netsky or beagle`
`02:56.55`	`bkw_`	`whats it doing?`
`02:57.02`	`bkw_`	`and why not try stinger from nai.com on it?`
`02:57.14`	`citats`	`brc007: why not just hit delete?`
`02:57.15`	`brc007`	`somebody's senden it out with my domain as the from`
`02:57.25`	`citats`	`brc007: thats what the virus does`
`02:57.27`	`bkw_`	`ya just delete it`
`02:57.32`	`bkw_`	`its not worth the time`
`02:57.40`	`bkw_`	`we get 200-5000 of those a day`
`02:57.47`	`brc007`	`I spose`
`02:57.52`	`brc007`	`no I'm getting bounce notices`
`02:58.08`	`citats`	`brc007: yeah because its forging your from and peoples servers are bouncing it`
`02:58.14`	`brc007`	`yeah I know`
`02:58.18`	`bkw_`	`888 yesterday`
`02:58.19`	`citats`	`its not a person doing it, its the code`
`02:58.34`	`brc007`	`probably`
`02:58.38`	`twisted`	`chapster: that rocks.`
`02:58.44`	`citats`	`what do you mean probably?`
`02:59.02`	`citats`	`sure one person sent out one email with it to start, but thats it`
`02:59.25`	`brc007`	`oh I got it`
`02:59.27`	`chapster`	`twisted: Yep. I have been subscribed to the list for quite some time. At some point, I will lock down my mailserver.`
`02:59.31`	`Kumbang`	`how do i strip channel name SIP/4000-asdf to 4000 with ${CHANNEL}`
`02:59.33`	`brc007`	`little slow ta'nite`
`02:59.39`	`bkw_`	`Kumbang Cut`
`03:00.18`	`twisted`	`Cut(newvar=varname\|delimiter\|fieldspec)`
`03:00.40`	`bkw_`	`${CHANNEL} needs to be Cut .. har har har`
`03:00.42`	`twisted`	`Cut(MYCHAN=${CHANNEL}\|\|)`
`03:00.49`	`bkw_`	`no`
`03:00.52`	`bkw_`	`put a -`
`03:00.52`	`twisted`	`errrr`
`03:00.56`	`bkw_`	`ninny`
`03:00.57`	`twisted`	`bkw: the default is a -`
`03:01.01`	`twisted`	`ninny.`
`03:01.02`	`bkw_`	`is it really?`
`03:01.09`	`bkw_`	`well isn't that special`
`03:01.09`	`twisted`	`delimiter - defaults to '-'`
`03:01.13`	`bkw_`	`kewl`
`03:01.42`	`SplasPood`	`Wouldn't that give him SIP/4000 tho?`
`03:01.51`	`bkw_`	`thats what he wants`
`03:01.52`	`SplasPood`	`guess he'd have to do another Cut..`
`03:01.56`	`bkw_`	`oh`
`03:01.59`	`bkw_`	`why does he want 4000`
`03:02.00`	`bkw_`	`thats stupid`
`03:02.02`	`SplasPood`	`I dunno`
`03:02.04`	`twisted`	`lol`
`03:02.04`	`bkw_`	`just ${EXTEN}`
`03:02.06`	`SplasPood`	`thats what he asked for ;)`
`03:02.18`	`twisted`	`then yeah`
`03:02.22`	`twisted`	`you'd have to cut the cut`
`03:02.22`	`bkw_`	`if you have exten => 4000,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN})`
`03:02.30`	`bkw_`	`or cut the cheese`
`03:02.33`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`03:03.12`	`twisted`	`Cut(MYNEWCHANNEL=${MYCHAN}\|\|2)`
`03:03.29`	`twisted`	`er`
`03:03.31`	`twisted`	`Cut(MYNEWCHANNEL=${MYCHAN}\|/\|2)`
`03:03.35`	`bkw_`	`NINNY`
`03:03.42`	`bkw_`	`:P`
`03:07.44`	`Markit`	`anyone using AVM Fritz card PCI and kernel >= 2.6?`
`03:08.33`	`expousr`	`anyone know anything about "PTHREAD_RECURSIVE_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP"?`
`03:09.53`	`twisted`	`cut doesn't work`
`03:09.55`	`twisted`	`lol`
`03:10.15`	`twisted`	`littletokyo*CLI> add extension 1050,1,Cut(MYCHAN=${CHANNEL}\|-\|1) into local`
`03:10.15`	`twisted`	`Extension '1050,1,Cut,MYCHAN=${CHANNEL}\|-\|1' added into 'local' context`
`03:10.15`	`twisted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:10.15`	`twisted`	`littletokyo*CLI> add extension 1050,2,NoOp(${MYCHAN}) into local`
`03:10.15`	`twisted`	`Extension '1050,2,NoOp,${MYCHAN}' added into 'local' context`
`03:10.16`	`twisted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:10.18`	`twisted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:10.22`	`twisted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:11.48`	`twisted`	`or am I doing something completely wrong...`
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`03:18.42`	`brc007`	`spf's interesting`
`03:19.45`	`chapster`	`Basically, all it does is let you specify the servers that can send mail as your domain. Seems reasonable to me.`
`03:20.59`	`chapster`	`- gone -`
`03:25.22`	`brc007`	`jup`
`03:26.09`	`brc007`	`"As a point of reference, by July 4th, 2004, we aim to have Hotmail, Yahoo, and AOL all publishing SPF"....any chance that'll happen?`
`03:26.12`	`brc007`	`I doubt it`
`03:27.34`	`brc007`	`oh...aol is using it :)`
`03:40.30`	`bkw_`	`lalallalala`
`03:40.42`	`bkw_`	`whats this spf stuffs?`
`03:40.47`	`BoRiS2`	`No new * update on cvs today....weird`
`03:41.53`	`Corydon76-home`	`I'm not using it, but I am publishing SPF records`
`03:42.24`	`bkw_`	`let me see`
`03:42.28`	`Corydon76-home`	`It will allegedly help prevent joe-jobbing in spam`
`03:43.07`	`Corydon76-home`	`The ironic thing about SPF is that its author and main proponent, pobox.com, does not currently check for SPF records when receiving mail.`
`03:43.31`	`bkw_`	`haha`
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`03:43.43`	`jmb-ct`	`hi list`
`03:43.52`	`jmb-ct`	`got a funky problem`
`03:43.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`This is a channel, not a list`
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`03:44.38`	`jmb-ct`	`whatever corydon.. list channel its all pretty much the same concept, a group of people that help others :)`
`03:45.23`	`Corydon76-home`	`No, it's completely different concepts altogether. You obviously do not understand the technologies involved`
`03:45.46`	`jmb-ct`	`Hmm, I think I do understand the technologies involved`
`03:46.00`	`jmb-ct`	`both use TCP/IP`
`03:46.12`	`jmb-ct`	`both have addressing systems`
`03:46.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ah, so mail and web both use TCP/IP and have addressing systems. Therefore they're the same thing.`
`03:46.52`	`jmb-ct`	`at a certain level yes they are`
`03:47.11`	`bkw_`	`OK NEXT!!!`
`03:47.18`	`jmb-ct`	`yeah, no kidding`
`03:47.23`	`jmb-ct`	`So here is an interesting issue`
`03:47.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`At a certain level, everything is made of quarks. So everything is the same.`
`03:47.58`	`jmb-ct`	`place a call via IAX to a box that has a PRI. the PRI box says its dialing, and then nothing further happens`
`03:48.14`	`Corydon76-home`	`Therefore, there's no reason to ask questions and no reason to answer them either`
`03:48.19`	`jmb-ct`	`and then other calls will go thru but the user won't hear a ring`
`03:48.57`	`jmb-ct`	`bkw any ideas ?`
`03:54.29`	`Corydon76-home`	`Well, you already know my idea, since everything is the same.`
`03:55.01`	`jmb-ct`	`Hmm wonder what Corydon is the same as..........`
`03:55.30`	`robl^`	`Corydon, have you been taking extacy again? :)`
`03:55.38`	`Corydon76-home`	`Again?`
`03:56.03`	`robl^`	`ok. STILL?`
`03:56.06`	`robl^`	`;)`
`03:56.19`	`twisted`	`hey coy`
`03:56.20`	`twisted`	`er`
`03:56.21`	`twisted`	`cory`
`03:56.27`	`twisted`	`i have a question about Cut()`
`03:56.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`He was claiming that this was a list, that web and mail are the same thing, and that there aren't any differences between any two things in the universe.`
`03:56.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`So I egged him on.`
`03:56.43`	`twisted`	`lol`
`03:56.48`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted: sure, what?`
`03:57.10`	`robl^`	`yay! my parts are in. I get to go to Computer Builder's Warehouse tomorrow mornign and pick up the last bits to build my new Asterisk server.`
`03:57.13`	`twisted`	`why doesn't it work? :p`
`03:57.16`	`twisted`	`littletokyo*CLI> add extension 1050,1,Cut(MYCHAN=${CHANNEL}\|-\|1) into local`
`03:57.16`	`twisted`	`Extension '1050,1,Cut,MYCHAN=${CHANNEL}\|-\|1' added into 'local' context`
`03:57.16`	`twisted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:57.16`	`twisted`	`littletokyo*CLI> add extension 1050,2,NoOp(${MYCHAN}) into local`
`03:57.16`	`twisted`	`Extension '1050,2,NoOp,${MYCHAN}' added into 'local' context`
`03:57.18`	`twisted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:57.24`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted: it does so work`
`03:57.26`	`twisted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:57.29`	`twisted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:57.31`	`twisted`	`sorry bout the flood`
`03:58.16`	`twisted`	`then what did I do wrong? looks like it shoulda cut it down to SIP/JoshSIP`
`03:58.28`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted: Pass the variable name, not the variable value.`
`03:58.49`	`twisted`	`so Cut(MYCHAN=CHANNEL\|-\|1)?`
`03:58.55`	`Corydon76-home`	`Precisely`
`03:59.05`	`twisted`	`maybe that should be documented a tad bit better`
`03:59.21`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's very explicit in the application help`
`03:59.26`	`twisted`	`littletokyo*CLI> add extension 1050,1,Cut(MYCHAN=${CHANNEL}\|-\|1) into local`
`03:59.26`	`twisted`	`Extension '1050,1,Cut,MYCHAN=${CHANNEL}\|-\|1' added into 'local' context`
`03:59.26`	`twisted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:59.26`	`twisted`	`littletokyo*CLI> add extension 1050,2,NoOp(${MYCHAN}) into local`
`03:59.26`	`twisted`	`Extension '1050,2,NoOp,${MYCHAN}' added into 'local' context`
`03:59.27`	`twisted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:59.29`	`twisted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:59.31`	`twisted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:59.33`	`twisted`	`errrr`
`03:59.35`	`twisted`	`shit`
`03:59.39`	`twisted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:59.45`	`twisted`	`that's all it says for the varname`
`03:59.49`	`twisted`	`in the application helkp`
`03:59.55`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yeah, the varname`
`04:00.02`	`Corydon76-home`	`As opposed to a string`
`04:00.03`	`robl^`	`is a VARIABLE`
`04:00.27`	`twisted`	`well, saying "varname - name of the variable you want cut`
`04:00.28`	`twisted`	`"`
`04:00.31`	`robl^`	`but variables, strings, and constants are all the same thing`
`04:00.32`	`twisted`	`would have been a bit more explicit`
`04:00.53`	`twisted`	`then again, maybe i'm just nitpicking :)`
`04:01.18`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yeah, you misread the documentation. ;-)`
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`04:02.00`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's probably the number one user error when using Cut()`
`04:02.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`but there is a specific reason why I did it that way`
`04:03.21`	`robl^`	`you are passing a reference to the variable, not its value?`
`04:03.43`	`Corydon76-home`	`i.e. so that if you had characters that would normally be interpreted another way when evaluating arguments, it would safeguard against that`
`04:04.28`	`Slothbag`	`anyone know how to get callerID using the X100P in australia working?`
`04:05.47`	`Corydon76-home`	`I'm considering letting people specify the second argument as %2C or %7C to specify the , or \| as the delimiter they want to use for Cut()`
`04:07.41`	`twisted`	`Corydon, you know what would be really spiffy?`
`04:07.54`	`twisted`	`to allow the user to cut x number of characters in either direction`
`04:08.02`	`twisted`	`without using a delimiter`
`04:08.56`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted: you can already do that using variable substitution`
`04:09.05`	`twisted`	`ehhh? explain`
`04:09.25`	`Corydon76-home`	`${CHANNEL:1} cuts one off the beginning`
`04:09.40`	`bkw_`	`you can substr it`
`04:09.45`	`bkw_`	`:x:y`
`04:10.14`	`twisted`	`corydon: i knew that one, but how would i go about stripping chars of the end?`
`04:10.37`	`Corydon76-home`	`You can even cut off the end by doing ${CHANNEL:0:$[${LEN(${CHANNEL})} - 1])`
`04:10.46`	`twisted`	`ewwww`
`04:11.09`	`twisted`	`i want to use that for npa-nxx mapping`
`04:11.45`	`Corydon76-home`	`I would depend on just doing fixed width mappings, as you're dealing with a fixed width number`
`04:12.28`	`Corydon76-home`	`If you want a difficult thing to try, try doing international number matching. The country codes can be anywhere from 1 to 3 characters long`
`04:12.42`	`twisted`	`i was going to do ${CALLERIDNUM:4} then i wanted to strip off the first 3 to get the nxx out of the npa-nxx`
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`04:13.10`	`twisted`	`so i could use vars NPA and NXX`
`04:13.24`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yeah, not a problem`
`04:13.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`You can rely on US numbers being a fixed length`
`04:13.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`i.e. just 10 characters`
`04:14.14`	`ken_`	`do any of you have problems with ztdummy crashing the kernel?`
`04:14.36`	`twisted`	`so i would need to do NPA=${CALLERIDNUM:3} and NXX=${NPA:0:${LEN(${NPA})} - 4]) ?`
`04:15.03`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted: what for? Like I said, you can rely on US numbers being fixed width`
`04:15.29`	`Corydon76-home`	`NPA=${CALLERIDNUM:0:3}`
`04:15.31`	`twisted`	`corydon: i just want to be able to place them into a mysql db for plotting`
`04:15.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`NXX=${CALLERID:3:3}`
`04:15.52`	`twisted`	`ahhhhhh`
`04:16.14`	`twisted`	`but i want to use seperate fields for npa and nxx, so i can track better`
`04:16.24`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's exactly the same arguments you would apply to Perl's substr() function.`
`04:16.31`	`twisted`	`i don't know perl :P`
`04:16.40`	`twisted`	`or i would just write an AGI to handle all that crap`
`04:16.48`	`Corydon76-home`	`Well, it's zero-based substrings`
`04:17.02`	`twisted`	`ok`
`04:17.08`	`Corydon76-home`	`No, don't use AGI... you'll fork for every single channel`
`04:17.27`	`twisted`	`eek... i should just spoon instead :P`
`04:17.28`	`Corydon76-home`	`That's incredibly wasteful of resources (not to mention slow)`
`04:17.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`I consider the use of AGI to be a last resort.`
`04:18.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`This is also why I wrote things like Cut() and Eval(): to prevent AGI from being an absolute necessity`
`04:18.41`	`twisted`	`i figured cut would come in handy for this, but i didn't know I wouldn't even have to use it`
`04:18.59`	`twisted`	`the only time cut will come into effect is to determine who is talking to where`
`04:19.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yeah, Cut() is really only necessary when you're dealing with variable-width data`
`04:19.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`and you have a delimiter, that is`
`04:19.49`	`twisted`	`yeah`
`04:21.17`	`Corydon76-home`	`such as with channel identifiers`
`04:21.20`	`twisted`	`i just want to be able to use cut to strip off the unique id's from the channel name and the dial type so i can get the actual user name out, and then match it to the npa-nxx pair`
`04:21.22`	`twisted`	`and still use a stdextenout macro`
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`04:21.52`	`twisted`	`good lord.`
`04:21.52`	`Corydon76-home`	`See, I don't even use Macros...`
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`04:22.12`	`twisted`	`i do`