| 00:00.03 | twisted | tthat was for whoever didn't see it |
| 00:00.17 | SwK | sure why not it just might get a little warm |
| 00:00.20 | michael | oh |
| 00:00.34 | michael | a little? hell when i run 2amps throupgh cat5 its already hot |
| 00:00.45 | michael | hell around 4-5 amps its starting to melt the plastic off the wires |
| 00:00.59 | SwK | just put some electrical tape around it |
| 00:01.04 | SwK | it'll be ok |
| 00:01.06 | twisted | duct tape |
| 00:01.12 | SwK | hey duct tape works well too |
| 00:01.14 | michael | lol 100 feet of tape? |
| 00:01.17 | michael | umm no |
| 00:01.19 | SwK | sure |
| 00:01.45 | michael | lol |
| 00:01.58 | michael | thats a accident waiting to happenmm |
| 00:02.12 | SwK | oh in that case get some 18GA aluminum wire |
| 00:02.26 | SwK | aluminum makes great 120V conductors |
| 00:02.29 | SwK | or something |
| 00:02.30 | michael | I need more like 10 gauge |
| 00:02.35 | twisted | copper |
| 00:02.57 | SwK | actually not for 15am... go get a role of romax at homedepot or lowes or whatever you have there... its cheap |
| 00:03.05 | SwK | all you need for that is 12-3 |
| 00:03.09 | SwK | seriosuyl |
| 00:16.16 | michael | I have spolls of wire out htere |
| 00:16.16 | michael | down to around 8 gauge |
| 00:16.16 | michael | and thats big |
| 00:16.16 | Hogie | UPS lies:( |
| 00:16.16 | michael | i have some 4 gauge stuff out there |
| 00:16.16 | michael | yes they do |
| 00:16.17 | twisted | use fiber |
| 00:16.17 | brc007 | HAHAHAH |
| 00:16.17 | twisted | and some photoelectrics |
| 00:16.17 | michael | fiber?? |
| 00:16.17 | michael | what? |
| 00:16.17 | michael | lol |
| 00:16.17 | brc007 | yeah |
| 00:16.17 | michael | now i'm confsued |
| 00:16.17 | brc007 | it'd work |
| 00:16.17 | twisted | light energy |
| 00:16.18 | twisted | ever heard of it? |
| 00:16.18 | michael | solar type stuff? |
| 00:16.18 | brc007 | yep |
| 00:16.18 | SwK | or use microwave to beam it out there... just be sure its operating the in the 2.4ghz spectrum so it fucks all your neighbors 802.11 and 2.4ghz cordless phones |
| 00:16.18 | michael | i already done that |
| 00:16.18 | michael | lol |
| 00:16.18 | michael | its called pointing the yagi |
| 00:16.18 | michael | at the neigbhor you hate the most |
| 00:16.18 | michael | lol |
| 00:16.18 | SwK | a pringles can is NOT a yagi... i dont care what those WUGs say |
| 00:16.18 | michael | yes i have used solar before.... I need another arond $4000 to get the rest of my system |
| 00:16.18 | michael | I second that |
| 00:16.18 | SwK | then why are you calling your pringles can a yagi? |
| 00:16.18 | brc007 | yagi's have driven and undriven elements |
| 00:16.19 | brc007 | did he say he's using a pringles can? |
| 00:16.19 | michael | me? |
| 00:16.19 | michael | I use real stuff |
| 00:16.19 | michael | lol |
| 00:16.19 | mitcheloc | lol @ yagi pringles |
| 00:16.19 | michael | not cardboard |
| 00:16.19 | mitcheloc | i was going to try that but i wanted something.....reliable |
| 00:16.19 | michael | lol |
| 00:16.19 | michael | yeah |
| 00:16.19 | michael | it rains and your scwered |
| 00:16.19 | michael | lol |
| 00:16.19 | brc007 | Cambells BEEFY |
| 00:16.19 | mitcheloc | michael are you trying to build a wireless bridge? |
| 00:16.20 | brc007 | bean cans work well |
| 00:16.20 | michael | no I need to through some equitment outside |
| 00:16.20 | michael | then they rust brc |
| 00:16.20 | michael | no power out there |
| 00:16.20 | tzanger | if you want reliable get a properly manufactured antenna then |
| 00:16.20 | mitcheloc | extension cable? |
| 00:16.20 | michael | rabbits eat them |
| 00:16.20 | michael | already tryed that |
| 00:16.20 | chayewala | I am trying to install a 101p card |
| 00:16.20 | twisted | i have a VERY directional antenna |
| 00:16.21 | twisted | :) |
| 00:16.21 | chayewala | and I see it as unconfigured when I run zttool |
| 00:16.21 | chayewala | what is missing? |
| 00:16.21 | tzanger | grid parabolic unless you don't care about wind load, in which case go for panel or even better, elliptical dish with panel feedhorn |
| 00:16.21 | tzanger | 30+dBi |
| 00:16.21 | mitcheloc | www.demarctech.com is great for antennas and wireless products imo |
| 00:16.34 | michael | did you modprobe? |
| 00:16.35 | chayewala | yes |
| 00:16.35 | michael | wcfxo and ztcfg? |
| 00:16.35 | tzanger | yes demarctech makes THE BEST radios too. -96dBm for 11mbit (!!!!) |
| 00:16.35 | *** join/#asterisk rene- (~rene-@201.129.48.104) |
| 00:16.35 | mitcheloc | i got two of their mcpes |
| 00:16.35 | twisted | by the way |
| 00:16.35 | tzanger | most radios don't have -96dBm for 1mbit |
| 00:16.35 | twisted | here's a link to the best fucking antenna you can make yourself |
| 00:16.35 | twisted | http://www.wifi-montauban.net/communaute/index.php/DisquettAntenna |
| 00:16.35 | *** join/#asterisk mishehu (mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) |
| 00:16.35 | mitcheloc | heh yea, seriously i'm picking up some nutty access points |
| 00:16.35 | mitcheloc | that i've never seen before |
| 00:16.35 | chayewala | this is what I did modprobe wcfxs ; modprobe wcfxo ; ztcfg -vv ; asterisk - upon failure, I ran zttool and it says x101p - unconfigured |
| 00:16.35 | tzanger | those demarctech radios are 200mW too |
| 00:16.36 | tzanger | with 200mW and a 30dB parabolic you exceed FCC's limits without even trying :-) |
| 00:16.36 | michael | hmm wierd |
| 00:16.36 | tzanger | that disk antenna is just a yagi |
| 00:16.36 | michael | I never had that issue before chaywala sorry. |
| 00:16.36 | tzanger | poorly built too |
| 00:16.36 | mitcheloc | heh tzanger i'm using them right now two mcpes pointing at eachother, i get 100% signal strength |
| 00:16.36 | tzanger | slotted aluminum makes some nice highly directional and it's easy to make it super precise with a CNC machine |
| 00:16.36 | tzanger | michael: what distance |
| 00:16.36 | mitcheloc | you mean *mitchel? |
| 00:16.36 | michael | what? |
| 00:16.36 | twisted | here's what I have as an antenna |
| 00:16.36 | twisted | (no joke) |
| 00:16.36 | twisted | http://www.radiolabs.com/products/antennas/2.4gig/2.4grid.php |
| 00:16.36 | mitcheloc | i think he meant me |
| 00:16.36 | tzanger | haha yes I meant that :-) |
| 00:16.36 | michael | oh |
| 00:16.36 | mitcheloc | nothing too much, arount 800 feet lol |
| 00:16.36 | michael | I was like what huh? |
| 00:16.36 | mitcheloc | a little bit overkill |
| 00:16.36 | tzanger | mitcheloc: yeah I have used grid parabolics a lot and 9.9dBi patches |
| 00:16.36 | mitcheloc | nice bbq twisted |
| 00:16.36 | twisted | mitcheloc: thx |
| 00:16.36 | tzanger | I am planning a 30km span, I want at least 25dB fade margin |
| 00:16.36 | tzanger | that's a lot of distance to collect moisture |
| 00:16.37 | mitcheloc | lol on my wireless scan look |
| 00:16.38 | mitcheloc | Bill 0050F2CB06B2 8 -69 dBm AP,WEP |
| 00:16.38 | mitcheloc | it' gets it pretty well |
| 00:16.38 | mitcheloc | never seen that one before |
| 00:16.38 | tzanger | but hopefully after the 2.4GHz is set up we'll move to 5GHz and eliminate the rain fade problem altogether |
| 00:16.38 | twisted | actually |
| 00:16.38 | twisted | that was the wrong link |
| 00:16.38 | twisted | i just realized that |
| 00:16.38 | twisted | it's ACTUALLY this one |
| 00:16.38 | twisted | http://www.radiolabs.com/products/antennas/2.4gig/2.4-aluminum-parabolic.php |
| 00:16.38 | mitcheloc | i suggest to everyone to just by an mcpe and stick it on their roof |
| 00:16.38 | tzanger | I think I have a pair of 24dBi grid parabolics |
| 00:16.38 | mitcheloc | then use someone elses internet connection heh (no don't!) |
| 00:16.38 | mitcheloc | you pick up signals you never thought you could |
| 00:16.38 | mitcheloc | twisted: still a nice looking bbq, a bit smaller, but i'm sure it makes up for it's size with performance eh? |
| 00:16.38 | tzanger | twisted: that's what I have |
| 00:16.38 | twisted | oh yeah |
| 00:16.38 | tzanger | sereral of those |
| 00:16.38 | twisted | tzanger: they're nice |
| 00:16.39 | tzanger | yes they are |