| 00:00.02 | Jackfiber | hello how to add a 1 prefix to outgoing extenssion dials? |
| 00:00.08 | ariel_ | So Is JerJer in favor of Radius or not in favor of it? |
| 00:00.28 | Jackfiber | I know ${EXTEN:1} dropps the first number |
| 00:00.31 | JerJer | Radius is perfect for dialup and maybe wireless devicee authentication/accounting |
| 00:00.34 | Jackfiber | but how to add one |
| 00:00.36 | pfn | thanks |
| 00:00.39 | JerJer | most ceritanly NOT for VoIP |
| 00:00.44 | pfn | trying to find the cheapest rate to Vietnam |
| 00:00.53 | paulc | Jackfiber: 1${EXTEN} |
| 00:01.01 | Jackfiber | thank u paulc |
| 00:01.01 | pfn | and if it means having to build an asterisk box to get cheap rates, well... I'll do that, heh |
| 00:01.54 | JerJer | pnf: find someone in vietnam with good IP |
| 00:02.52 | paulc | Jackfiber: s'what we're here for :-) |
| 00:02.52 | pfn | I wonder how hard it would be to get my cousin hooked up with a couple T1's, heh |
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| 00:02.55 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o twisted] by ChanServ |
| 00:02.57 | pfn | run my own calling card shop |
| 00:03.04 | paulc | I wonder what the price of T1s is in vietnam?/ |
| 00:03.06 | nhuisman | start seeing numbers scrolling across the screen, the hpone starts ringing, the volume goes up and down, and then it rebots |
| 00:03.11 | pfn | paulc I don't imagine cheap |
| 00:03.13 | nhuisman | oops |
| 00:03.15 | nhuisman | mispasted |
| 00:03.24 | pfn | and I'm sure getting the local loop would be utter ass |
| 00:03.41 | paulc | yeah.. I wonder what rates for analog versus PRIs.. and how much traffic you'd need to drive to break even |
| 00:03.56 | shmooz | what would you guys suggest as to get the lowest cost fxo port? |
| 00:03.59 | nhuisman | Has anyone had problems with the 7.1 images and asterisk? |
| 00:04.10 | nhuisman | namely phones rebooting and acting strangly |
| 00:04.12 | nhuisman | cisco 7960 |
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| 00:04.23 | twisted | nhuisman, that happens when the sip server and the phone are on different subnets |
| 00:04.27 | *** part/#asterisk Jackfiber (Jackfiber@213.217.44.230) |
| 00:04.48 | pfn | so what's the difference 'tween FXO and FXS? the asterisk and digium pages don't seem to mention |
| 00:05.41 | JerJer | pfn: its a wicked circular dependacy here |
| 00:05.41 | Nix | FXS connects to FXO |
| 00:05.59 | Connor | FXO acts like a phone |
| 00:06.03 | pfn | hmmm, asterisk developers kit is $175 |
| 00:06.06 | Connor | FXS acts like the phone company |
| 00:06.06 | pfn | I should order one up |
| 00:06.13 | pfn | I see |
| 00:06.19 | nhuisman | twisted they are on the same 192.168.0.0/24 network segment though |
| 00:06.23 | Connor | or do Ihave it backwards. |
| 00:06.28 | Connor | I can never remeber... |
| 00:06.34 | ariel_ | wow I will have to say I agree with JerJer on the Radius... |
| 00:06.36 | JerJer | FXS provides dialtone and battery to the line |
| 00:06.51 | JerJer | FXO expects to recieve a dialtone and battery |
| 00:06.55 | shmooz | the FXO port will be on a pci card to install in the box right? |
| 00:06.56 | pfn | so FXS acts like telco |
| 00:07.01 | pfn | can FXS also act like FXO? |
| 00:07.07 | Connor | okay, so I had it right. |
| 00:07.10 | JerJer | FXS provides the station interface |
| 00:07.19 | JerJer | so a regular telephone is an FXO device |
| 00:07.23 | JerJer | FXO uses FXS signalling |
| 00:07.27 | JerJer | FXS uses FXO signalling |
| 00:07.34 | *** join/#asterisk Jackfiber (Jackfiber@213.217.44.230) |
| 00:07.40 | pfn | right, but, could I say, use an FXS card with 2 ports, one to receive and one to send? |
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| 00:07.46 | JerJer | no |
| 00:08.05 | JerJer | FXS has to plug into an FXO device |
| 00:08.14 | pfn | right, ok, that clears that up |
| 00:08.16 | pfn | thanks |
| 00:08.17 | Connor | you would have to drop a FXO module on the card. |
| 00:08.24 | Jackfiber | _.123 accepts 7123 or anything? |
| 00:08.26 | JerJer | correct: get one FXS and one FXO |
| 00:08.37 | ariel_ | pfn listen fxs to phone or modem or fax device. fxo to POT line PSTN. |
| 00:08.59 | shmooz | ok so where is the web page with a diagram of which device is conencted to which port?? |
| 00:09.02 | Connor | JerJer, I've hooked 2 FXO's head to head before, had to have a phone line plugged up to them while they were connecting though.. was a long time ago. |
| 00:09.19 | Blaisen1 | anybody know why iaxtel doesn't pass callerid when dialing a pstn toll-free number? |
| 00:09.31 | *** join/#asterisk Atmaca (Baby20_@12.161.193.118) |
| 00:09.42 | JerJer | Blaisen1: it has to be a US48 toll-free number without a prefix (ie 1) |
| 00:10.08 | pfn | hmm, I wonder how small a box I could get this running in |
| 00:10.12 | shmooz | JerJer is there a page with a diagram I can look at it? |
| 00:10.13 | Blaisen1 | jerjer: the callerid #? or the dialed #? |
| 00:10.14 | pfn | pity soekris boxes can only handle 1 pci card |
| 00:10.15 | Nix | ariel_: I also believe that HTTP is unsuited to Voice networks but alot of people here use SIP ;-) |
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| 00:10.52 | JerJer | SIP has nothing to do with voice |
| 00:10.52 | ariel_ | Nix there is SIP, IAX, H323 and it the wave of the future... |
| 00:11.03 | Nix | ;-) |
| 00:11.17 | JerJer | explain to me how u think SIP has anything to do with voice |
| 00:11.20 | paulc | jackfiber: _X123 not _.123 |
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| 00:11.42 | Nix | explain to me how you thing RADIUS has anything to do with voice? |
| 00:11.47 | Nix | :-) |
| 00:11.52 | ariel_ | Sip does not have anything other then get you going RTP via UDP sends the voice... is this not correct? |
| 00:11.57 | JerJer | you made the statement |
| 00:12.01 | JerJer | [20:11] <Nix> ariel_: I also believe that HTTP is unsuited to Voice networks but alot of people here use SIP ;-) |
| 00:12.06 | Nix | no. you did.. previously.. |
| 00:12.08 | pfn | hmm, actually, I think I want 2 FXO cards... |
| 00:12.14 | Jackfiber | thank u again paulc but I want to accept anything that has 123 end |
| 00:12.15 | file | why have 2 when you can have 3? |
| 00:12.16 | JerJer | putz |
| 00:12.17 | pfn | for my setup |
| 00:12.29 | Nix | <JerJer> Radius is perfect for dialup and maybe wireless devicee authentication/accounting |
| 00:12.30 | Nix | <JerJer> most ceritanly NOT for VoIP |
| 00:12.36 | paulc | jackfiber: doesn't the X cover that? or maybe it should be N.. or maybe it IS a . - I'm tired this afternoon :-) |
| 00:12.44 | ariel_ | pfn what are you trying to plug into your asterisk system? |
| 00:13.04 | pfn | my vonage box, maybe a normal telephone, and my pots line |
| 00:13.12 | Nix | where when I said Voice I should have been more specific and said VoIP |
| 00:13.24 | JerJer | Nix: again: [20:11] <Nix> ariel_: I also believe that HTTP is unsuited to Voice networks but alot of people here use SIP |
| 00:13.32 | Nix | yes.. |
| 00:13.33 | pfn | vonage has the best rates on calls to VN right now, but I haven't even had a chance to try it out yet :( |
| 00:13.34 | JerJer | how does SIP have anyting to do with voice |
| 00:13.36 | ariel_ | ok vonage to fxo. Normal phone line from wall to fxo you phone will require an FXS.. |
| 00:13.39 | pfn | stupid SBC nuked my DSL |
| 00:13.42 | Blaisen1 | jerjer: when i call my tollfree number from iaxtel it's callerid display shows 248-724-0700 instead of what i set for my callerid in asterisk? |
| 00:13.47 | ariel_ | ./your |
| 00:13.47 | Nix | did you READ my last 3 messages? |
| 00:13.57 | Nix | lol |
| 00:14.12 | JerJer | SIP is a signalling method |
| 00:14.16 | Jackfiber | paulc, if I put a 7 digit number extension before a NXXMXXXXXX then all dials with that first 7 digit number is routed thru the first extension or the last one? |
| 00:14.27 | JerJer | what one does with that signalling is up to the appication writer |
| 00:14.31 | paulc | Blaisen: yes - because your call is going out on their trunks |
| 00:14.33 | hez | Blaisen1: how can you be called back via your 700 number? |
| 00:14.59 | paulc | jackfiber: depends on the channel but if it's zap I thikn it matches on the first matching entry |
| 00:15.02 | Blaisen1 | paulc: so there is no way to have it set my callerid when calling a tollfree number through iax (which is the same provider fwd uses it seems) |
| 00:15.03 | Nix | yes.. as is H323 |
| 00:15.12 | Nix | and radius is a billing protocol.. |
| 00:15.22 | Blaisen1 | when i use the power of nufone it sets my outgoing number properly when calling toll-free numbers.. just curious |
| 00:15.23 | Jackfiber | paulc, it's SIP |
| 00:15.25 | paulc | Blaisen: I got presentation caller ID to a 800 number through voicepulse connect |
| 00:15.26 | Nix | and authentication and AUth |
| 00:15.32 | Nix | tell me something we dont know.. |
| 00:15.39 | paulc | don't think it'll work through IAXtel though |
| 00:15.45 | JerJer | your making sttaments that you can't defend |
| 00:15.56 | JerJer | then u change your mind, yet still can't defend it |
| 00:15.59 | pfn | this could be interesting... now I wanna go build it |
| 00:16.00 | pfn | :( |
| 00:16.09 | pfn | 2 FXO cards, an FXS card, and a box to run it all, bleh |
| 00:16.20 | Blaisen1 | who's fault is that 484 early dial doesn't work, my handytone ata or asterisk? |
| 00:16.36 | hez | greets paulc, hows it going? |
| 00:16.42 | pfn | overkill 2 line phone switch |
| 00:16.43 | pfn | heh |
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| 00:16.49 | pfn | that's what it's gonna boil down into |
| 00:16.51 | paulc | Hey Hez.. it goes.. but heading off shortly.. you? |
| 00:17.12 | paulc | Blaisen: hmm.. handytone maybe? not 100% sure.. but 484 early dial is a bit meh.. |
| 00:17.29 | hez | not too shabby at all =) finally got that local iax2 termination in some kind of testing phaze =) |
| 00:17.41 | *** join/#asterisk Kumbang (~kumbang@167.205.22.54) |
| 00:17.46 | ariel_ | pfn your better off getting a digium TDM12B card |
| 00:17.48 | Blaisen1 | paulc: i have a bandaid fix (my wife was getting annoyed at having to remember to dial # or wait for hte dialplan timeout) by setting it to off-hook dial an extension that gives me DISA in asterisk |
| 00:18.08 | Blaisen1 | paulc: so dialing is fast then matching numbers connect right away but wildcards like FWD take a while longer |
| 00:18.32 | Blaisen1 | paulc: if # isn't pressed at the end (she doesn't dial fwd numbers though so its all good really) |
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| 00:18.40 | hez | Blaisen1: just dont end your wild cards with . ;) |
| 00:18.48 | pfn | ariel ah, cool |
| 00:19.08 | pfn | I wonder how much they'd charge for that config |
| 00:19.12 | paulc | hez: oh nice one.. so local DIDs terminating IAX? |
| 00:19.28 | Blaisen1 | blaisen1: but i think fwd has 5 and 6 digit numbers as well as some gateways and such so i'm stuck using a wildcard after a FWD prefix(I use 393 for fwd prefix) |
| 00:19.34 | Blaisen1 | doh |
| 00:19.35 | hez | paulc: thats the idea (dont have a local did yet, but then again im not paying for it yet) |
| 00:19.39 | pfn | maybe I'll just get a TDM22B |
| 00:19.46 | pfn | handles 2 lines, and can ring 2 phones |
| 00:19.53 | nhuisman | does sip 6.3/7.0 have problems with phones rebooting if too many buttons are pressed too fast? |
| 00:20.00 | hez | paulc: ilbc or gsm with the option of u/alaw (for a small bit extra i think) |
| 00:20.09 | *** part/#asterisk cybyc (~cyb@Ottawa-HSE-ppp260298.sympatico.ca) |
| 00:20.20 | Connor | $50.00 bounty for anyone who can get VAD support coded into asterisk. |
| 00:20.23 | paulc | hez: interesting that they charge more.. makes sense I guess.. GSM's not too bad though.. |
| 00:20.28 | ariel_ | nhuisman your still having problems with the cisco phone.. Do you have another one to test with? |
| 00:20.34 | rene- | whats with chan blueetoth? |
| 00:20.38 | file | Connor: nah |
| 00:20.39 | rene- | bluetooth |
| 00:20.43 | hez | paulc: yeah, ive had pretty good experience with gsm and ilbc so far =) |
| 00:21.12 | hez | paulc: though no did i do have an extension on their did =) |
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| 00:21.21 | Connor | file: Just inbound VAD support, I don't care if asterisk itself does vad, I just want it to work with a gateway that does vad |
| 00:21.31 | ariel_ | I use mostly Ulaw and GSM... works don't need to pay anyone for there use. |
| 00:21.48 | file | Connor: what does it do anyway? freak out? |
| 00:22.03 | ariel_ | Connor what do you call VAD? |
| 00:22.41 | Connor | file: Well, depends if you use re-invites or not, if you use re-invites, on outbound calls, all that breaks is MOH.. |
| 00:22.52 | paulc | hez: nice one.. I'm still playnig around.. iconnecthere are pissing me off, not passing DTMF inbound, and failing outbound from asterisk.. time for a real provider I think ;-) |
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| 00:23.14 | Connor | file: If you proxying the RTP through asterisk, then they other party won't hear you unless they're talking at same time. |
| 00:23.26 | file | Connor: fun |
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| 00:23.40 | hez | paulc: yeah, i saw all the troubles with it, not good =( |
| 00:23.59 | Connor | ariel_: VAD = Voice Activation Detection, cuts out RTP packets when no one is talking.. but since asterisk gets it's outbound timing from the inbound RTP packets, it messes everything all up. |
| 00:24.18 | Connor | no inbound RTP packets, no outbound packets... |
| 00:25.02 | Connor | RTP needs to use ZAP timing, be it psedo of real .. I could care less since my * box has a Zaptel interface for Meetme purposes already. |
| 00:26.22 | ariel_ | Connor I understand. What some call Silent Suppression.. It's something that we are actually looking into doing. |
| 00:26.53 | JerJer | Connor: rtp doesn't use zap timing |
| 00:27.00 | Connor | ariel_: exactly. It's a pain. |
| 00:27.28 | Connor | JerJer: I know, that's the problem.. if it did, I could use a carrier that had VAD turned on without any problems. |
| 00:27.53 | ariel_ | Connor from what we have seen in the code is for SIP and it's the way it gets the packits. |
| 00:28.12 | pfn | I wonder if I can modify a soekris chassis to accomodate a tdm22b card |
| 00:28.12 | pfn | :) |
| 00:28.50 | pfn | hmm, doesn't look like the soekris boxes are quite fast enough to accomodate asterisk... 266mhz.... |
| 00:28.55 | Connor | how hard would it be to make rtp use zap timeing? |
| 00:28.56 | ariel_ | pfn no it will not work. You need the power cable fro 5 volts. We have tried it already. Too much modifcations needed. |
| 00:29.08 | JerJer | pfn: you'd be surprized what asterisk can run on |
| 00:29.26 | pfn | the tdm22b is a 5V pci card? |
| 00:29.44 | ariel_ | pfn we had a p233 with 128 ram working as an IVR for along time.. |
| 00:30.25 | ariel_ | pfn no it needs the plug from the PC for the voltage to the phone ports FXS for ringing |
| 00:30.31 | pfn | oh, I see |
| 00:31.26 | pfn | I guess I'll go with a mini-itx setup |
| 00:31.40 | ariel_ | pfn but if you get it working.. and get the right box let me know we will by some...(Great for small office gateway) |
| 00:32.00 | ariel_ | ./buy |
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| 00:32.30 | jacob | hey |
| 00:32.52 | jacob | I have some questions, im a newbie planning on dong this as a hobby, can anyone help me? |
| 00:33.39 | ariel_ | jacob ask the question. |
| 00:33.43 | ariel_ | And welcome |
| 00:33.50 | mstocco | jacob: type away |
| 00:34.32 | *** part/#asterisk paulc (~web-irc@S010600062586a0b4.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 00:34.57 | ariel_ | Wow speed test of cable modem comes out to 2.8 down 235k up.. not bad.. |
| 00:35.26 | pfn | my dsl is only like 650/115 :( |
| 00:35.26 | *** join/#asterisk espenJa (~espen@80.203.83.148) |
| 00:35.45 | pfn | that's why my dsl is down for the next 2 weeks, crappy SBC is taking *2* weeks to move my line from the CO to the remote terminal |
| 00:35.49 | ariel_ | pfn sorry to hear that. But it's faster the a modem.... |
| 00:36.08 | pfn | barely enough for voip |
| 00:36.55 | ariel_ | I just dropped my DSL provider to go with cable to get drop my Bellsouth phone line. Cable here is 24.95 for 6 months then 49 per month.. |
| 00:37.15 | pfn | $36.99/mo for 3m/384 dsl nowadays |
| 00:37.42 | ariel_ | pfn use gsm and iax it will work.. |
| 00:38.03 | pfn | well, it's 115kbps realized (after tcp overhead) speed |
| 00:38.11 | pfn | and I benchmarked vonage, it was 10KB/s in each direction |
| 00:38.47 | ariel_ | 36.99 for dsl? that is low here dsl 3m/384k is around 54.95 per month. |
| 00:38.56 | pfn | sfba sbc dsl |
| 00:39.26 | *** join/#asterisk ToyMan (~stuq@user-0cevfhv.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:39.31 | pfn | http://www02.sbc.com/DSL_new/content_new/1,,18,00.html?pl_code=MSBC245C8952P192180B0S0 |
| 00:41.29 | suma | i have an ambient md 3200 modem which i tested to use with asterisk |
| 00:42.26 | suma | i have seen two model HSF Ambient & HCF ambient |
| 00:43.21 | jacob | Hey, so where can i get some cheap cards. I am going to have 2 analog (Vonage adapter) lines, 2 analog phone extensions in the house, and I need to know what adapters i need, and where to get a good price |
| 00:43.25 | suma | which one i can use with asterisk, any help ? |
| 00:43.43 | *** join/#asterisk DeLiKan (~metali_cc@ip68-227-184-233.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 00:43.54 | pfn | jacob I was just looking at the tdm400p 2fxo 2fxs bundle for $321.... |
| 00:43.58 | pfn | from digium |
| 00:44.01 | ariel_ | jacob you will then need the digium TDM22b board |
| 00:44.28 | pfn | shopping for a mini-itx case that looks professional enough.... |
| 00:44.28 | jacob | whats the tdm22b board do? |
| 00:44.31 | ariel_ | pfn you had that already from our other post. Sneek.. |
| 00:44.46 | pfn | ?? :p |
| 00:44.51 | ariel_ | pfn do you want to handle this one... |
| 00:44.55 | pfn | nope |
| 00:44.57 | pfn | I'm a newb :) |
| 00:45.47 | ariel_ | TDM22b has 2 fxs ports that get connected to phones (Analog) and 2 FXO ports to phone lines like from the vonage box. |
| 00:45.48 | YoYo | jbot, tell pfn about noob |
| 00:46.01 | Blaisen1 | anybody using fwd via iax? |
| 00:46.02 | jacob | ok cool |
| 00:46.09 | YoYo | omg, jbot is so stupid |
| 00:46.14 | YoYo | nevermind pfn |
| 00:46.19 | pfn | indeed |
| 00:46.20 | ariel_ | Blaisen1 yes I am |
| 00:46.32 | Blaisen1 | ariel_: is it working for you right now? |
| 00:46.43 | YoYo | jbot jbot is stupid stupid stupid |
| 00:46.44 | jbot | ...but jbot is already something else... |
| 00:46.46 | YoYo | ~jbot |
| 00:46.47 | jbot | i heard jbot is another blootbot, the same bot as apt and ibot. shares the same logs/botmail/factoids/etc. see ibot. admin is TimRiker, or stupid, or retarded |
| 00:46.50 | pfn | hahah |
| 00:46.54 | ariel_ | no just installed my cable at home not reset my server here. But at work it was today. |
| 00:46.58 | YoYo | jbot jbot is also an idiot |
| 00:46.59 | jbot | okay, YoYo |
| 00:47.01 | YoYo | ~jbot |
| 00:47.02 | jbot | i heard jbot is another blootbot, the same bot as apt and ibot. shares the same logs/botmail/factoids/etc. see ibot. admin is TimRiker, or stupid, or retarded, or an idiot |
| 00:47.13 | rene- | jbot a |
| 00:47.14 | jbot | rumour has it, a is not b |
| 00:47.27 | YoYo | jbot 87^23 |
| 00:47.28 | jbot | 64 |
| 00:47.33 | YoYo | haha, stupid jbot |
| 00:47.45 | YoYo | jbot 2*234*97274747*9872389473 |
| 00:47.46 | jbot | 449436400111079915520 |
| 00:47.49 | YoYo | very good |
| 00:47.51 | jacob | can i use 2 x100p's for fxo (fxo means outside lines right) |
| 00:47.52 | ariel_ | YoYo stop that you will just get him mad at you. |
| 00:48.02 | YoYo | jacob: you can do that, yes |
| 00:48.11 | YoYo | ~ariel_ |
| 00:48.22 | twisted | ~yoyo |
| 00:48.24 | jbot | [yoyo] Wazzzzzzzzup? |
| 00:48.27 | YoYo | haha |
| 00:48.35 | ariel_ | jacob you will be in IRQ hell and yes but do you have enough hair on your head to try it..joke.. |
| 00:48.37 | twisted | ~twisted |
| 00:48.38 | jbot | rumour has it, twisted is twisted@indigent-networks.com, but you can paypal him at toastido@toastido.net |
| 00:48.41 | YoYo | jbot yoyo is a really smart guy who doesn't give a shit about anything but himself |
| 00:48.42 | jbot | YoYo: please, watch your language. |
| 00:48.42 | twisted | wheeeee |
| 00:48.49 | YoYo | jbot yoyo is a really smart guy who doesn't give a crap about anything but himself |
| 00:48.50 | jbot | YoYo: please, watch your language. |
| 00:48.54 | twisted | hahaha |
| 00:48.58 | YoYo | bah... stupid bot |
| 00:49.07 | jacob | Really their IRQ's will step on eachother? |
| 00:49.08 | YoYo | jbot yoyo is a really smart guy who doesn't care about anything but himself |
| 00:49.09 | jbot | ...but yoyo is already something else... |
| 00:49.11 | twisted | jbot: yoyo is a really smartass guy who doesn't give a rats ass about anything but himself |
| 00:49.12 | jbot | ...but yoyo is already something else... |
| 00:49.12 | YoYo | ~yoyo |
| 00:49.13 | jbot | well, yoyo is Wazzzzzzzzup? |
| 00:49.19 | twisted | jbot: no, yoyo is a really smartass guy who doesn't give a rats ass about anything but himself |
| 00:49.20 | jbot | okay, twisted |
| 00:49.23 | twisted | :P |
| 00:49.29 | YoYo | ~yoyo |
| 00:49.30 | jbot | hmm... yoyo is a really smartass guy who doesn't give a rats ass about anything but himself |
| 00:49.32 | YoYo | =D |
| 00:49.43 | YoYo | ~jbot |
| 00:49.44 | jbot | rumour has it, jbot is another blootbot, the same bot as apt and ibot. shares the same logs/botmail/factoids/etc. see ibot. admin is TimRiker, or stupid, or retarded, or an idiot |
| 00:49.57 | YoYo | jbot, no, jbot is a stupid retarded bot |
| 00:49.58 | jbot | okay, YoYo |
| 00:50.00 | YoYo | ~jbot |
| 00:50.02 | jbot | [jbot] a stupid retarded bot |
| 00:50.05 | pfn | ok, no more playing with the bot please |
| 00:50.06 | YoYo | VERY GOOD |
| 00:50.06 | pfn | :p |
| 00:50.10 | ariel_ | jacob for phone lines to work right you will need the card on there own IRQ not shared. And that means finding a mb that will allow you to set it up. |
| 00:50.35 | jacob | thats hard to find these days, cool and thank you |
| 00:50.36 | YoYo | jbot, no, noob needs to go read the wiki-tiki-thingie at http://www.voip-info.org |
| 00:50.37 | jbot | YoYo: You are moron #3 |
| 00:50.39 | pfn | is there any other source for the digium boards that cheaper? |
| 00:50.55 | twisted | hahaha |
| 00:50.59 | jacob | Also what is recomended minimum processor/ram |
| 00:50.59 | twisted | jbot: who is moron #1? |
| 00:51.00 | jbot | It's you, hoda. |
| 00:51.04 | twisted | bitch. |
| 00:51.06 | ariel_ | pfn yes go see the distributor listing. |
| 00:51.06 | twisted | jbot: who is moron #2? |
| 00:51.08 | jbot | twisted: what are you talking about? |
| 00:51.08 | jacob | and a recomended distro |
| 00:51.51 | pfn | there is one? |
| 00:51.54 | ariel_ | jacob distro what you are used to. I like RH 9 or Mepis.. about hardware it depends on what your going to do. |
| 00:51.56 | YoYo | jacob: how big of a system are you wanting to build? |
| 00:52.05 | jacob | A home syste, |
| 00:52.09 | YoYo | ok |
| 00:52.25 | YoYo | here's what I have... Asus MB with onboard video and lan |
| 00:52.25 | jacob | well i havent used linux in a few years |
| 00:52.28 | ariel_ | home site any celeron with 256mg ram will do |
| 00:52.37 | YoYo | P4 2.4Ghz (533 fsb) |
| 00:52.40 | YoYo | 256mb |
| 00:52.44 | andrewg | milligrams |
| 00:52.56 | YoYo | I have an x100p and a TDM400 |
| 00:53.10 | jacob | i have a 2.66 ghz system now.. i have a p3 550 sitting in the corner.. it has a mini atx... will that work? |
| 00:53.13 | YoYo | Gentoo linux, and it does my fones and is also my router/nat/dhcp server thingie for my DSL |
| 00:53.16 | ariel_ | does anyone have a manuel for the cable modem com21? around |
| 00:53.25 | YoYo | yes... p3/550 will be fine |
| 00:53.33 | ariel_ | jacob yes it will work. |
| 00:53.37 | jacob | and how many gb;s |
| 00:53.37 | pfn | I already have an embedded linux router setup |
| 00:53.43 | jacob | like 20 will do? |
| 00:53.47 | pfn | don't wanna dick with that to run asterisk |
| 00:53.54 | YoYo | jacob: ya... 20gb hd will be fine |
| 00:54.08 | jacob | right on guys. thank you |
| 00:54.14 | twisted | wheeee |
| 00:54.15 | YoYo | jacob, as for OS, what are you familiar with? |
| 00:54.24 | ariel_ | twisted your having fun tonight? |
| 00:54.27 | twisted | ariel_, no |
| 00:54.31 | YoYo | twisted: stop looking at it and put it to work |
| 00:54.33 | twisted | i still gotta do some flowcharting and shit. |
| 00:54.37 | twisted | YoYo, it is in use |
| 00:54.43 | jacob | well i use mac... i have a pc (for games) i used to use suse and mandrake |
| 00:54.46 | jacob | pre 2.4 |
| 00:54.52 | pfn | bleh, pita to find a dealer of digium stuff |
| 00:55.03 | twisted | just deal with digium directly, pfn |
| 00:55.03 | YoYo | jacob: well, any linux will work fine. 2.4 kernel |
| 00:55.16 | YoYo | if you wanna have fun (and I do mean fun), check out Gentoo |
| 00:55.17 | jacob | neato |
| 00:55.31 | ariel_ | Mepis is really easy to use and fasts.. Works... mepis.org |
| 00:55.34 | twisted | http://www.funroll-loops.org <-- gentoo is for ricers. |
| 00:55.37 | jacob | gentoo.. is it more difficult than usually |
| 00:55.39 | file | cold cold my feet are cold |
| 00:55.43 | YoYo | hate hate hate hate linux |
| 00:55.44 | twisted | file: getting married? |
| 00:55.45 | YoYo | love gentoo =D |
| 00:55.50 | file | twisted: no |
| 00:55.52 | twisted | yoyo, gentoo == linux. |
| 00:55.55 | twisted | BUH |
| 00:56.00 | YoYo | twisted: yeah... |
| 00:56.00 | file | they're just cold |
| 00:56.06 | twisted | file: are you really female? |
| 00:56.16 | YoYo | twisted: I hate fat chicks too... but Anna was an exception =D |
| 00:56.16 | twisted | file: cuz females have freezing feet all the damn time |
| 00:56.42 | file | no |
| 00:56.49 | YoYo | well, not hate fat chicks... just dun like looking at them or thinking about being with them |
| 00:56.56 | twisted | YoYo, haha |
| 00:57.01 | ariel_ | Can't find a manuel on line for the Com21 what did they go out of business?? |
| 00:57.07 | twisted | then move your feet and quit whining! |
| 00:57.16 | YoYo | file, put some fuckign socks on |
| 00:57.26 | file | socks->status = on; |
| 00:57.44 | twisted | YoYo: you live in canada. canada == cold. if canada == cold and wall in basement is in canada, wall == cold. DUH! |
| 00:57.57 | ariel_ | haha I am sitting behind a desk in my well never mind different channel.. |
| 00:58.17 | twisted | err |
| 00:58.18 | twisted | not yoyo |
| 00:58.20 | twisted | file |
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| 00:58.31 | file | haha |
| 00:58.31 | twisted | file: you live in canada. canada == cold. if canada == cold and wall in basement is in canada, wall == cold. DUH! |
| 00:58.40 | twisted | there we go |
| 00:58.41 | pfn | oh, cool, there's a dealer listing on voipinfo |
| 00:59.06 | pfn | and they all sell at retail.... |
| 01:00.03 | twisted | pfn |
| 01:00.08 | twisted | deal with digium directly |
| 01:00.20 | pfn | I guess I'll be doing that |
| 01:00.26 | file | TOAST |
| 01:00.29 | pfn | was hoping there'd be a discount somewhere, but if not, I'd go directly through digium |
| 01:00.32 | twisted | YEA TOAST |
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| 01:00.58 | adamg | hi, anyone alive in here? |
| 01:01.15 | ariel_ | adamg alive what gives you that Idea? |
| 01:02.51 | twisted | we are borg of asterisk |
| 01:02.56 | twisted | resistance is futile |
| 01:03.09 | twisted | all your base are belong to us |
| 01:03.45 | file | twisted: no no, all your pbxs |
| 01:03.53 | YoYo | all your pbx belong to us |
| 01:04.42 | ariel_ | Damm I did not know I had joined a cult....;-) |
| 01:04.55 | twisted | all your pbx are belong to us |
| 01:05.03 | twisted | someone set us up the thong |
| 01:05.04 | file | twisted: much better |
| 01:05.56 | twisted | you have no chance to dial, make your time |
| 01:06.36 | pfn | what are the power requirements on the tdm400p card? |
| 01:06.57 | twisted | pfn: you connect it to your ps |
| 01:07.04 | pfn | right, but what sorta power drain |
| 01:07.09 | pfn | when ringing X lines |
| 01:07.14 | pfn | 1W, 5W, 15W? |
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| 01:08.21 | ariel_ | pfn that is not something I looked up. I think it's set as amps or miliamp ti draws. |
| 01:10.35 | jacob | what pay VOIP DID services can i used without having to buy fxo stuff... and how much are those usb fxs's and where can i get one |
| 01:10.59 | ariel_ | ok it's time to go and play with my baby. She is crying and asking for her dady... I can't resist.....He has me.....14month old and she owns me.. |
| 01:11.12 | menger | ariel_: :) |
| 01:11.33 | jacob | what pay VOIP DID services can i used without having to buy fxo stuff... and how much are those usb fxs's and where can i get one |
| 01:11.42 | ariel_ | jacob nufone, voicepulse look at the digium site for iax providers.. |
| 01:12.50 | jacob | can i use broadvoice with iax? |
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| 01:17.27 | Bentley | hi all - I'm going to ask a question that is probably dumb - but I'm uncertain, so here goes ... |
| 01:17.36 | Bentley | Tomorrow I'm deploying my 1st _real_ * implementation. There will be 15 BT101s. In the BT admin, I see that there is a default of: "local RTP port: 5004" and "Use random port: No" ... will this default be problematic? |
| 01:18.03 | evilbuny | same lan or all hitting outside the lan? |
| 01:18.09 | Bentley | all on same lan |
| 01:18.21 | evilbuny | doubt it |
| 01:18.57 | Bentley | so I don't have to set it to use a random prot? |
| 01:19.10 | file | if you're feeling spontaneous, sure |
| 01:19.45 | Bentley | haha - what does that mean? I'm missing a fundamental piece of knowledge here |
| 01:20.13 | michael | file: hello! |
| 01:21.16 | file | michael: ...hi |
| 01:21.36 | michael | :) |
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| 01:26.47 | tzanger | I am having one HELL of a time getting iax2 users to work |
| 01:26.57 | tzanger | *1 -> *2 just a simple goddamned call |
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| 01:27.27 | tzanger | *1 has |
| 01:27.27 | tzanger | [benshaw] |
| 01:27.28 | tzanger | type=peer |
| 01:27.28 | tzanger | username=benphone |
| 01:27.28 | tzanger | secret=benphone |
| 01:27.30 | tzanger | host=192.168.2.2 |
| 01:27.33 | tzanger | qualify=300 |
| 01:27.35 | tzanger | . |
| 01:27.38 | tzanger | simple. |
| 01:27.40 | tzanger | *2 has |
| 01:27.54 | tzanger | [benphone] |
| 01:27.54 | tzanger | type=user |
| 01:27.54 | tzanger | username=benphone |
| 01:27.54 | tzanger | secret=benphone |
| 01:27.54 | tzanger | host=192.168.2.1 |
| 01:27.56 | tzanger | qualify=300 |
| 01:27.59 | tzanger | context=incoming |
| 01:28.01 | tzanger | . |
| 01:28.02 | twisted | AHHHHHHHHHH |
| 01:28.17 | tzanger | *1 is calling *2 as Dial(IAX2/benphone@benshaw) |
| 01:28.23 | tzanger | *2 rejects it as no authority |
| 01:28.40 | tzanger | both have been restarted... I'm completely frustrated here :-( |
| 01:29.29 | pfn | I wonder if a 50W PSU is enough to run a 'puter with a hard drive and tdm22b |
| 01:29.53 | pfn | I figure 10W for the mb, 6-20W for the HD, that leaves about 20W for the tdm22b.... |
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| 01:30.49 | menger | tzanger: you need to put password in dial command |
| 01:31.15 | tzanger | menger: no I don't, it should pick it up from iax.conf... at least it seems to with my nufone connection |
| 01:31.27 | menger | Dial(IAX2/benphone:benphone@benshaw/extension@context |
| 01:31.44 | tzanger | I'll try it but it should NOT be necessary |
| 01:31.46 | menger | tzanger: then just use Dial(IAX2/benshaw/extension@context) |
| 01:32.45 | pfn | oh yeah, can asterisk support "ringing patterns"? i.e. only answer if 2 phone calls are received within 30 seconds with the first call ringing only once ? |
| 01:32.57 | menger | tzanger: i am using this: exten => _1XX,1,Dial(IAX2/office-menger/${EXTEN:1}@extensions) |
| 01:33.06 | tzanger | menger: ok that worked, but why |
| 01:33.18 | tzanger | Dial(IAX2/benphone:benphone@benshaw) |
| 01:33.23 | tzanger | why was the password necessary there?! |
| 01:33.33 | menger | tzanger: cause you provided username, i think it it assumes you are not using an entry in iax.conf |
| 01:33.45 | tzanger | I have three [benshaw] peers in iax.conf, this is the only one that needs the damned password |
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| 01:33.56 | menger | tzanger: try taking username and password out so it is just Dial(IAX2/benshaw) |
| 01:34.17 | menger | tzanger: all have the same name exactly? |
| 01:34.42 | tzanger | menger: same [benshaw] yes, but different username/pass |
| 01:34.58 | tzanger | pfn: not out of the box |
| 01:35.04 | menger | tzanger: i would think you would need different names on each one |
| 01:35.16 | tzanger | didn't need it before (I'm pretty sure) heh |
| 01:35.19 | tzanger | but thank you |
| 01:35.20 | pfn | tzanger how do you mean by not out of the box, would asterisk code have to be modified, or can some config file be changed to allow that? |
| 01:35.31 | tzanger | pfn: you'd have to do some fancy dialplan magic |
| 01:35.49 | pfn | which is a config file, right? and not *too* complicated is it? |
| 01:36.09 | tzanger | yes it is going to be complex, you're asking for something complex |
| 01:37.53 | pfn | that's a feature I'd kind of like |
| 01:37.54 | pfn | hmm |
| 01:38.00 | pfn | but if it's doable, then I'm not worried |
| 01:38.55 | tzanger | pfn: why? seems overly convoluted to me |
| 01:39.26 | pfn | because I'd like to dial my home line or vonage line and only have it perform special processing if a certain ringing pattern is established |
| 01:39.36 | pfn | otherwise just ring the internal lines directly |
| 01:39.57 | tzanger | pfn: that's what distinctive ring or DIDs are for :-) |
| 01:40.23 | pfn | distinctive ring? how do you establish a distinctive ring from any generic phone? |
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| 01:40.37 | menger | distinctive ring is if you have 2 numbers on 1 analogue line |
| 01:40.51 | pfn | that doesn't do what I need.... |
| 01:40.53 | menger | couldn't you have asterisk pick up line and then play ringing tone |
| 01:40.57 | pfn | well, it kind of does |
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| 01:41.03 | menger | and if you dial a certian number |
| 01:41.09 | pfn | menger that could work, but would suck for people calling long distance or toll |
| 01:41.15 | pfn | then it'd mean they'd always get charged |
| 01:41.22 | menger | it would do something, otherwise ... |
| 01:41.34 | menger | pfn: yeah, but if you divert them to voice mail after they might forgive you:P |
| 01:41.35 | pfn | I mean calling my number from LD or toll |
| 01:41.44 | pfn | that's just evil |
| 01:42.16 | menger | pfn: only way to do it afaik |
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| 01:43.01 | pfn | hmm |
| 01:43.46 | arcaidy | has anyone used asterisk to connect to call manager? |
| 01:44.30 | arcaidy | this place is dead... =/ |
| 01:44.52 | paulc | it's late.. |
| 01:44.55 | pfn | everyone's gone home.... |
| 01:44.55 | paulc | or.. no one here has.. |
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| 01:57.23 | Darwin35 | ok -head builds on fbsd -5.2.1-Release-p8 |
| 01:57.34 | Darwin35 | with i major change |
| 01:57.38 | Darwin35 | i/1 |
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| 01:58.38 | michael1234567 | Unable to open '/dev/zap/channel': No such device |
| 01:59.48 | Darwin35 | ok whats this new error "config loader has no config file so nevermind |
| 02:01.13 | Darwin35 | asterisk wont load |
| 02:01.20 | Darwin35 | and gives that error |
| 02:01.36 | Darwin35 | input pls |
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| 02:03.48 | pfn | hmm, I wonder if I can find a flex/micro-atx case with a riser card |
| 02:03.54 | pfn | that way I don't need a new box to run asterisk |
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| 02:06.25 | Darwin35 | fixed |
| 02:09.00 | Darwin35 | exit |
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| 02:16.59 | Darwin35 | skinny is having ip binding problems |
| 02:16.59 | Darwin35 | grrr |
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| 02:18.07 | tz | er |
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