| 00:00.39 | ckng128 | I have both grandstream runing behind NAT and the asterisk is behind the NAT too, the other phone is ring but can't hear |
| 00:01.03 | ckng128 | BTW, thanks..you are the first answering |
| 00:01.59 | bkw_ | http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=34&scid=29&prid=624 <--- I want this |
| 00:02.06 | Jackfiber | ckng128 |
| 00:02.10 | Jackfiber | I had the same issue |
| 00:02.27 | cuban | bkw_: Woah that's awesome. |
| 00:02.31 | Jackfiber | but asterisk on valid IP and SNOM behind NAT |
| 00:02.32 | ckng128 | Jack, are u using grandstream too ? |
| 00:02.41 | Jackfiber | SNOM 200 |
| 00:02.46 | lancey | bkw_ www.redlinecommunications.com |
| 00:02.48 | Jackfiber | the issue is ur router |
| 00:02.53 | lancey | get me one, i'll get you one linksys |
| 00:03.11 | Jackfiber | I have speedstream 5660 ADSL |
| 00:03.13 | ckng128 | I am using netgear wireless at home |
| 00:03.17 | Jackfiber | these r not voip aware |
| 00:03.28 | Jackfiber | in my issue |
| 00:04.06 | ckng128 | I can hear the 600 automatic answering call though |
| 00:04.07 | Jackfiber | SNOm behind NAT could receive calls, and make calls other parties could hear snom but SNOM could not hear anyone |
| 00:04.17 | ckng128 | after I put in the port forading |
| 00:04.30 | Jackfiber | this can be solved in three ways: |
| 00:04.39 | lancey | 1. remove NAT :) |
| 00:04.43 | blaisen1 | i'll take a redline as well if they are free |
| 00:04.46 | blaisen1 | well two actually |
| 00:04.46 | Jackfiber | no |
| 00:04.55 | lancey | blaisen1: / |
| 00:04.56 | lancey | ? |
| 00:05.01 | Jackfiber | 1) change router to VOIP aware which is impossible in most cases |
| 00:05.03 | lancey | take the 5350 |
| 00:05.10 | lancey | :))) |
| 00:05.17 | Jackfiber | 2) have asterisk on valid IP and one behind NAT |
| 00:05.20 | Jackfiber | 3) use SER |
| 00:05.35 | Jackfiber | the option 2 is the easier one |
| 00:05.54 | Jackfiber | because x-lite is working well while hardphones cannot |
| 00:05.55 | ckng128 | my asterisk is actually on a valid public IP |
| 00:06.09 | Jackfiber | this is due to lack of logic in hardphone softwares |
| 00:06.16 | ckng128 | what dod you means by valid IP and behind firewall, jack |
| 00:06.52 | Jackfiber | I meant valid IP , asterisk server with valid Internet IP not behind NAT |
| 00:06.59 | ckng128 | and I am puting to fwd as what is configure in grandstream also |
| 00:07.04 | Jackfiber | and make those asterisk to asterisk connection |
| 00:07.17 | Jackfiber | I passed 146 hours to fined that |
| 00:07.35 | Jackfiber | also SER can be used but in some cases it cannot help on some routers |
| 00:07.55 | *** join/#asterisk MustDie (~voip@ool-18b91fa7.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:08.09 | __E|nyPRI | can anyone explain to me how the second DtmF is picked up in app_meetme, after the user presses '*' around else if (((f->frametype == AST_FRAME_DTMF) && (f->subclass == '*') && (confflags & CONFFLAG_STARMENU)) || ((f->frametype == AST_FRAME_DTMF) && menu_active)) { |
| 00:08.13 | ckng128 | how about the other asterisk, all need to run outside the firewall too ? |
| 00:08.32 | Jackfiber | yes |
| 00:09.01 | Jackfiber | if u want to try what I say just use x-lite on other end u see it works but not the hardphone |
| 00:09.44 | ckng128 | u menas x-lite is working on the env where three party are behind NAT ? |
| 00:09.45 | Jackfiber | SER from iptel.org can be used to solve the issue but several programming knowledge and SIP information and debugging are required |
| 00:10.05 | Jackfiber | if three parties are behind NAT everything will work |
| 00:10.22 | teletel | I try to login to callmanager, but I get "Authentification req.". I setup a user+pass and set enabled=yes |
| 00:10.25 | Jackfiber | just don't put nat=yes if all parties are behind NAT |
| 00:10.28 | ckng128 | sorry, behind three diff NAT :-) |
| 00:10.47 | Jackfiber | behind three different NATs then no one would work |
| 00:10.53 | *** join/#asterisk JerJer (~NunYoBizN@d1-197.rt-bras.che.centurytel.net) |
| 00:11.01 | Jackfiber | u need to make asterisk to asterisk connection or use SER |
| 00:11.20 | ckng128 | I have tried it with another friend, we could get the ring over but not voice ! |
| 00:11.42 | Jackfiber | behind three NATS will work in one case: all three NAT routers r voip SIP aware like ix66 cable |
| 00:12.01 | Jackfiber | ckng128, exactly u r right |
| 00:12.01 | ckng128 | your asterisk to asterisk means both hardphones could be behind NAT but asterisk server must have no NAT, right |
| 00:12.11 | Jackfiber | u cannot get voice due to RTP |
| 00:13.03 | Jackfiber | non sip aware routers open incoming RTP ports on the fly and do not forward them to the specific station correctly |
| 00:13.16 | ckng128 | so I can have all the hardphones behind nats but only asterisk need to be outside firewall, is that right ? |
| 00:13.19 | Jackfiber | no asterisk to asterisk means |
| 00:13.52 | Jackfiber | put an asterisk server behind each NAT then make each phone register to their local asterisk and connect asterisk together using IAX2 |
| 00:14.13 | Jackfiber | u should not put nat=yes then |
| 00:14.23 | Jackfiber | also portforwarding is required |
| 00:14.25 | cuban | ckng128: You can put all your phones behind NAT, and only the asterisk server outside of NAT. I do that and it work sgreat. |
| 00:14.27 | Jackfiber | for asterisk servers |
| 00:14.46 | Jackfiber | cuban, u didn't tried it with hardphones right? |
| 00:14.51 | [TK]D-Fender | cuban : its advisable to use "reinvite=no" right? |
| 00:14.54 | cuban | Jackfiber: Yes, I'm using hardphones. |
| 00:14.58 | cuban | [TK]D-Fender: Yes. |
| 00:15.13 | Jackfiber | I used that scheme and SNOM 200 doesn't receive voices |
| 00:15.14 | cuban | [TK]D-Fender: I use reinvite=no irregardless because we users have the options to record calls. |
| 00:15.22 | cuban | Jackfiber: Then SNOM sucks. |
| 00:15.27 | cuban | Jackfiber: Get Cisco phones. |
| 00:15.42 | [TK]D-Fender | nativle in *? |
| 00:15.52 | cuban | My asterisk server is out open in the internet, and my cisco phones are behind NAT. |
| 00:16.00 | cuban | [TK]D-Fender: What do you mean? |
| 00:16.11 | Jackfiber | SNOM has STUN, UPnP and etc but cannot receive those on the fly RTPs |
| 00:16.11 | *** join/#asterisk Carp1 (Carp@ip-204-97-151-130.modem.logical.net) |
| 00:16.13 | [TK]D-Fender | What is doing the recording (sorry for typo) |
| 00:16.27 | cuban | [TK]D-Fender: Asterisk. |
| 00:16.42 | Jackfiber | cuban r u sure u can make it |
| 00:16.43 | ckng128 | you means voicemail ? |
| 00:16.47 | Carp1 | I cant think of any good scripts to write....Has anyone created a full voicemail system with AGI? |
| 00:16.50 | Jackfiber | I mean try mine if u could I'll pay u |
| 00:16.53 | cuban | Jackfiber: Speak english, I can't make it what? |
| 00:17.05 | bkw_ | my name is on the Gallop Poll calls now |
| 00:17.21 | Jackfiber | get my SNOM200 which its asterisk is on the Internet side and SNOm200 is behind NAT to work |
| 00:17.26 | bkw_ | haha it was funny |
| 00:17.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Wasn't sure * recorded non-Zap calls... |
| 00:18.00 | cuban | Jackfiber: Did you forward port 5060 to the phone? |
| 00:18.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Another reason to use "reinvite=no" I'm sure... |
| 00:18.14 | cuban | [TK]D-Fender: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Monitor%20setup%20sample |
| 00:18.38 | Jackfiber | forwarded these ports: 5060/udp 3478/udp 3479/udp 10,000 to 10,020 /udp and 8000/udp |
| 00:19.03 | Jackfiber | 3478 & 79 r STUN SNOM200 has STUN client |
| 00:19.11 | cuban | Jackfiber: Paste your sip.conf to http://pb.cuban.cc |
| 00:19.15 | Jackfiber | 10,000 to 20,000 r common RTP ports |
| 00:19.28 | ckng128 | cuban...could I have your asterisk ip adress so I can try it it. |
| 00:19.29 | cuban | damn it's down, wtd |
| 00:19.30 | Jackfiber | ok wait |
| 00:19.33 | cuban | ckng128: No. |
| 00:19.39 | Jackfiber | all sip config or the block only? |
| 00:19.51 | *** join/#asterisk Kumbang (~unknown@167.205.22.54) |
| 00:19.53 | cuban | that phone only |
| 00:19.54 | cuban | hang on |
| 00:19.56 | cuban | pb is down |
| 00:20.08 | Jackfiber | ok wait ot send u by private message |
| 00:20.20 | Carp1 | are the X100P's atill $99? |
| 00:20.42 | cuban | Jackfiber: If you can get to http://pb.cuban.cc use it there |
| 00:21.04 | cuban | Jackfiber: s/use/paste it there |
| 00:22.06 | cuban | Jackfiber: For one, change gsm to ulaw |
| 00:22.08 | Jackfiber | I pasted |
| 00:22.13 | cuban | Jackfiber: two put in reinvite=no |
| 00:22.18 | Jackfiber | SNOM 200 supports GSM |
| 00:22.28 | Jackfiber | reinvite=no is default |
| 00:22.33 | bkw_ | its canreinvite |
| 00:22.38 | cuban | Right, sorry. |
| 00:22.40 | bkw_ | "reinvite" doesn't exist |
| 00:22.42 | cuban | canreinivte=no |
| 00:22.45 | Jackfiber | also SNOM 200 can reinvite |
| 00:22.49 | cuban | canreinvite=no |
| 00:22.54 | cuban | Jackfiber: Not if it's behind NAT it can't. |
| 00:22.58 | Jackfiber | let me paste fo rthe public wait |
| 00:22.59 | CoaxD | Jackfiber: Yeah. and if you do it with a nat situation, it will not work |
| 00:23.10 | Jackfiber | [4568] |
| 00:23.11 | Jackfiber | type=friend |
| 00:23.11 | Jackfiber | secret=7d25g |
| 00:23.11 | Jackfiber | auth=md5 |
| 00:23.11 | Jackfiber | nat=yes |
| 00:23.11 | Jackfiber | host=dynamic |
| 00:23.12 | Jackfiber | dtmfmode=rfc2833 |
| 00:23.14 | Jackfiber | callerid="Jack" <4568> |
| 00:23.16 | Jackfiber | disallow=all |
| 00:23.18 | Jackfiber | allow=gsm |
| 00:23.20 | Jackfiber | context=intern-toll |
| 00:23.22 | Jackfiber | canreinvite=no is default |
| 00:23.29 | CoaxD | Jackfiber: Thank you for providing us with your phone secret. |
| 00:23.29 | JerJer | wholy use a pastebin |
| 00:23.38 | cuban | No, canreinvite=yes is default. |
| 00:23.42 | cuban | Set it to no. |
| 00:23.50 | Jackfiber | sorry my irc client doesn't support |
| 00:24.00 | CoaxD | jackfiber: it has nothing to do with your damn irc client |
| 00:24.01 | Jackfiber | I set it to no it doesn't work |
| 00:24.04 | cuban | Jackfiber: Your irc client doesn't have to support a psatebin. |
| 00:24.06 | CoaxD | jackfiber: go to http://www.pastebin.com |
| 00:24.07 | cuban | http://pb.cuban.cc/ |
| 00:24.16 | Jackfiber | ok |
| 00:25.13 | cuban | Well maybe someone here who uses a SNOM can help you, I don't use them because they cost the same if not more than the ciscos. |
| 00:25.44 | Jackfiber | I paid $275 for SNOM 200 and it doesn't work behind NAT :-( |
| 00:25.53 | Jackfiber | everything is fine * side |
| 00:26.10 | cuban | Why are you using STUN and forwarding RTP ports? |
| 00:26.22 | cuban | Turn off STUN, you probably don't need it unless you have a really stupid firewall. |
| 00:26.27 | CoaxD | Jackfiber: canreinvite=no |
| 00:26.34 | cuban | CoaxD: He won't listen to that. |
| 00:26.50 | CoaxD | cuban: Then find an op to kick him, or make him go away somehow. :) |
| 00:26.59 | Jackfiber | cuban without STUN internal NAT IP is used as outgoing and the phone will be unable to register with asterisk which is in public net |
| 00:27.13 | cuban | Jackfiber: Then I say again, SNOM phones suck. |
| 00:27.21 | Jackfiber | I put canreinvite=no |
| 00:27.21 | cuban | Jackfiber: I do just that with my Cisco phones and no STUN. |
| 00:27.32 | cuban | Jackfiber: Do this, if you do not want to do this then stop asking for help. |
| 00:27.37 | Jackfiber | it's now on but the same issue no audio at the SNOM side |
| 00:27.40 | cuban | Jackfiber: Put canreinvite=no |
| 00:27.47 | cuban | Jackfiber: Turn off STUN |
| 00:27.55 | Jackfiber | I did both |
| 00:27.56 | cuban | Jackfiber: ONLY forward port 5060 UDP to your phone. |
| 00:28.06 | cuban | Jackfiber: Restart your phone and asterisk |
| 00:28.07 | Jackfiber | the phone is unable to register now no dialtone |
| 00:28.12 | Jackfiber | ok |
| 00:28.17 | Jackfiber | only 5060 |
| 00:28.23 | file | NAT is bad mmmk? |
| 00:28.23 | Jackfiber | no dialtone |
| 00:28.41 | Jackfiber | restarted both phone and asterisk |
| 00:28.42 | cuban | Jackfiber: Buy a phone that doesn't suck then, or call SNOM. |
| 00:28.51 | Jackfiber | x-lite works behind NAT but not SNOM |
| 00:28.57 | Jackfiber | hehehhe |
| 00:28.58 | cuban | I'd call SNOM then. |
| 00:29.17 | Jackfiber | I have a question |
| 00:29.27 | Jackfiber | CISCO 677 is voip aware? |
| 00:29.42 | cuban | 577? |
| 00:29.44 | cuban | 677? |
| 00:29.49 | Jackfiber | yes |
| 00:29.55 | cuban | I don't know. |
| 00:29.55 | Jackfiber | my provider verizon |
| 00:30.05 | cuban | That's one of those shitty Cisco DSL/Cable boxes isn't it? |
| 00:30.10 | Jackfiber | told I can change adsl speadstream 5660 with cisco677 |
| 00:30.16 | Jackfiber | yes |
| 00:30.20 | cuban | I have a Speedstream 5060 |
| 00:30.26 | Jackfiber | cuban u r on vsat ? |
| 00:30.31 | cuban | I plug it into my firewall. |
| 00:30.40 | cuban | No idea what vsat is, my provider is Speakeasy. |
| 00:30.41 | lancey | shitty Cisco? |
| 00:30.42 | lancey | :) |
| 00:30.57 | lancey | get something with 4-digit model number ;) |
| 00:30.58 | Jackfiber | someone told cisco is more buggy |
| 00:31.00 | cuban | lancey: Yeah, those cable/dsl boxes suck. |
| 00:31.09 | cuban | Jackfiber: Well someone was wrong. |
| 00:31.13 | Jackfiber | I cannot get they provide r u using adsl? |
| 00:31.15 | cuban | Jackfiber: Cisco's work flawlessly. |
| 00:31.27 | cuban | I'm on ADSL yes. |
| 00:31.38 | Jackfiber | so 677 would be better than speedstream 5660 |
| 00:31.42 | lancey | i do use a lot of ciscos |
| 00:31.47 | cuban | That shouldn't make any difference. |
| 00:31.56 | lancey | but 1700, 5xxxx and 7xxxx only |
| 00:31.56 | Jackfiber | hehehe |
| 00:32.01 | lancey | 5xxx / 7xxx i mean |
| 00:32.02 | lancey | :) |
| 00:32.02 | cuban | Jackfiber: I can't help you anymore, and to be quite honest I'm frustrated reading "r" "u" and "ur" |
| 00:32.14 | Jackfiber | heheh |
| 00:32.29 | Jackfiber | r u = Are you ur = you are and your |
| 00:32.41 | cuban | Why not just type it? |
| 00:32.48 | *** join/#asterisk jmhunter (~jmhunter@adsl-68-123-27-134.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 00:32.52 | Jackfiber | speed writing |
| 00:32.52 | cuban | lancey: Give the low end models some love. |
| 00:33.03 | jmhunter | hey jerjer... just sent an email to you |
| 00:33.07 | Jackfiber | cuban do u american? |
| 00:33.09 | cuban | Jackfiber: It's not speed writing, using "u" "r" and "ur" make you look foolish. |
| 00:33.24 | Jackfiber | cuban do u american? |
| 00:33.29 | Jackfiber | seems u r not |
| 00:33.30 | cuban | do you american? |
| 00:33.35 | CoaxD | Jack: do you english? |
| 00:33.35 | Jackfiber | it's common here |
| 00:33.36 | cuban | That doesn't make sense. |
| 00:33.39 | CoaxD | Jack: Do you have brain are? |
| 00:33.45 | mishehu | Do you goat? |
| 00:33.47 | Jackfiber | so none of u are american |
| 00:33.50 | CoaxD | mishehu: I GOAT! |
| 00:33.51 | cuban | Jackfiber: I live in america, but I can tell you do NOT. |
| 00:33.55 | blaisen1 | speaking english, you must |
| 00:33.58 | CoaxD | mishehu: do you frob? |
| 00:34.06 | mishehu | CoaxD: no, I goat |
| 00:34.08 | Jackfiber | because americans use it incorrectly "do you american?" instead on "are you american"? |
| 00:34.12 | CoaxD | mishehu: OH I GOAT |
| 00:34.21 | cuban | Jackfiber: What??:? |
| 00:34.27 | CoaxD | Jackfiber: Go away, you fucking troll. |
| 00:34.30 | Jackfiber | so you don't know americans use it incorrectly "do you american?" instead on "are you american"? |
| 00:34.42 | cuban | Jackfiber: Get fucking dead. |
| 00:34.45 | Jackfiber | coaxD, u see |
| 00:34.53 | Jackfiber | don't use abusive words |
| 00:34.53 | CoaxD | Jackfiber: I see you are a troll, yes. |
| 00:35.03 | CoaxD | Jackfiber: Fuck off! Muahahahaha. (Was that abusive enough for you?) |
| 00:35.09 | Jackfiber | i can tell u much better if u like |
| 00:35.11 | cuban | Jackfiber: Learn to speak english man. |
| 00:35.16 | Jackfiber | no |
| 00:35.22 | mishehu | yeah, learn to speak engrish |
| 00:35.22 | CoaxD | Jackfiber: Its not the fact that you're an idiot that is upsetting me here |
| 00:35.28 | cuban | Jackfiber: Then prepare for a life of stupidity. |
| 00:35.31 | Jackfiber | shot you fucking m. noise off my works |
| 00:35.36 | CoaxD | Jackfiber: its the fact that now, you're just fucking with people - amongst not bothering to listen to the advice people are giving you |
| 00:35.57 | Jackfiber | did u able to solve the issue? I have $100 reward |
| 00:35.58 | Syncros | you're better to learn indian than english |
| 00:36.05 | CoaxD | jackfiber: canreinvite=yes |
| 00:36.15 | Jackfiber | no help the same issue |
| 00:36.21 | Jackfiber | u tell I do here |
| 00:36.27 | blaisen1 | argh |
| 00:36.29 | Jackfiber | I reloaded and rebooted |
| 00:36.31 | Jackfiber | the same |
| 00:36.34 | CoaxD | Jackfiber: Rebooted. heh. |
| 00:36.42 | cuban | Jackfiber: "did you able to fix the issue?" That's not english. |
| 00:36.45 | CoaxD | Jackfiber: Your phone blows chunks. Get another one. Problem solved. now go away. |
| 00:37.02 | Jackfiber | cuban that's perfectly english |
| 00:37.07 | CoaxD | Jackfiber: I'm getting to the point where i'm going to offer you $100 to leave. |
| 00:37.10 | cuban | Jackfiber: HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 00:37.12 | Jackfiber | but american style in talking |
| 00:37.27 | cuban | Jackfiber: Maybe if you are trying to be the average american IDIOT. |
| 00:37.29 | Jackfiber | I'm not writing a book here |
| 00:37.48 | CoaxD | Jackfiber: no, you're asking for free tchnical support |
| 00:37.48 | Jackfiber | cuban do u know what "dude" means? |
| 00:37.48 | cuban | Jackfiber: And we aren't giving free support to a troll here. |
| 00:37.48 | CoaxD | Jackfiber: And you don't even speak the primary language of the channel, and trying to be a dick as well |
| 00:37.53 | cuban | Jackfiber: I live in fucking texas you moron. |
| 00:38.10 | blaisen1 | which you don't want to messin' with |
| 00:38.13 | Jackfiber | coaxD you will be fired from this chat the next time and will be banned |
| 00:38.20 | cuban | Hahahahaha |
| 00:38.34 | Jackfiber | cuban u r not right |
| 00:38.35 | cuban | CoaxD: /ignore jackfiber all |
| 00:38.37 | Jackfiber | what's dude? |
| 00:38.42 | CoaxD | cuban: Hehe, well, i'm just having fun |
| 00:38.49 | CoaxD | jackfiber: Hahahahahaha |
| 00:38.56 | Syncros | wow |
| 00:39.04 | cuban | CoaxD: Yeah, but it's gone too far now. |
| 00:39.33 | Jackfiber | coaxD, who the fuck r u ? may one of those that we fucked yesterday? better to put ur head in a hole and try keeping ur ass somewhere else |
| 00:39.45 | Jackfiber | u r too fucking noisy |
| 00:39.55 | pfn | and u r 2 fucking st00pid |
| 00:39.57 | CoaxD | mmmm |
| 00:40.03 | CoaxD | jackfiber: You're making me horney man |
| 00:40.10 | CoaxD | jackfiber: Please do it again? |
| 00:40.12 | Syncros | stop waisting my bandwitch |
| 00:40.14 | *** part/#asterisk Jackfiber (Jackfiber@213.217.44.215) |
| 00:40.16 | Syncros | shut up |
| 00:40.17 | iMediax | lol |
| 00:40.17 | blaisen1 | cuban, just call john ashcroft on him |
| 00:40.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Dear God.... isn't there an Op around to silence the trash around here? :/ |
| 00:40.26 | cuban | You know what's funny, is Jackfiber isn't even from the states. |
| 00:40.28 | CoaxD | TK: Newp |
| 00:40.34 | [TK]D-Fender | :( |
| 00:40.42 | [TK]D-Fender | MISCREANTS |
| 00:40.44 | cuban | Yet he is insulting my english. |
| 00:40.48 | CoaxD | *** #asterisk : You need to be a channel operator to do that |
| 00:40.51 | CoaxD | :/ |
| 00:41.01 | cuban | twisted isn't on ICQ either. |
| 00:41.06 | CoaxD | cuban: yo espero que va al enfierno. jeje |
| 00:41.16 | cuban | CoaxD: I'm first generation. |
| 00:41.23 | CoaxD | cuban:L ? |
| 00:41.25 | pfn | yep, funny |
| 00:41.34 | pfn | icq? people still use that crap? |
| 00:41.38 | CoaxD | pfn: Yes. scarey |
| 00:41.40 | cuban | CoaxD: I'm also the only one the entire family line that can't speak spanish. Which means I can't communicate with my extended family. |
| 00:41.48 | CoaxD | cuban: AHHHHHHH |
| 00:41.50 | CoaxD | cuban: :/ |
| 00:41.58 | CoaxD | cuban: I suggest you learn. *g* |
| 00:42.02 | CoaxD | cuban: And FAST. *g* |
| 00:42.04 | cuban | CoaxD: It sucks man. |
| 00:42.13 | cuban | CoaxD: I'm 100% cuban, but I can't speak spanish. |
| 00:42.20 | CoaxD | cuban: Ya. families did that way back in the day. not knowing they were doing their kids a huge disfavor |
| 00:42.28 | cuban | Yeah. |
| 00:42.31 | CoaxD | cuban: It happened to THOUSANDS of people about our age |
| 00:42.35 | CoaxD | cuban: (I'm 28.) |
| 00:42.42 | cuban | They were probably worried about me being discriminated for english as a second language. |
| 00:42.46 | CoaxD | cuban: I dont speak spanish a whole lot, but enough to screw with a troll |
| 00:42.46 | pfn | families did what? |
| 00:42.49 | pfn | oh |
| 00:42.52 | cuban | The only reason I go by cuban is because it's a nick name my friends came up with for me. |
| 00:42.54 | CoaxD | cuban: Of course. thats exactly why they did it man |
| 00:43.00 | jmhunter | =) |
| 00:43.00 | CoaxD | cuban: ahh. hehe. well it works |
| 00:43.01 | pfn | that's interesting, though |
| 00:43.05 | pfn | if your family spoke spanish at home |
| 00:43.08 | pfn | it's natural you'd learn it... |
| 00:43.12 | jmhunter | jacob hunter, wanna be asterisk cunsultant |
| 00:43.14 | cuban | pfn: Yep. |
| 00:43.19 | cuban | It's depressing. |
| 00:43.22 | pfn | they didn't speak spanish at home at all? |
| 00:43.24 | pfn | only english? |
| 00:43.40 | cuban | pfn: Yeah. |
| 00:43.42 | pfn | funky |
| 00:43.47 | cuban | pfn: Except when relatives came to visit. |
| 00:44.03 | cuban | Which is unusual because for my parents english was a second language. |
| 00:44.09 | pfn | yep |
| 00:44.14 | pfn | I don't like it when my parents speak english |
| 00:44.17 | pfn | it's actually very annoying |
| 00:44.21 | cuban | I really think it's what I said. |
| 00:44.27 | ckng128 | properly just learn both |
| 00:44.32 | *** part/#asterisk thu (~thu@S010600c002385073.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 00:44.36 | cuban | I'd like to learn spanish. |
| 00:44.39 | pfn | I refuse to speak to them in english, 'cept my mom keeps trying to leave me voicemails in english |
| 00:44.41 | pfn | it's very annoying |
| 00:44.56 | blaisen1 | i'd like to learn german, the language of love and diplomacy |
| 00:45.04 | cuban | brb |
| 00:45.04 | pfn | when I think german |
| 00:45.08 | pfn | I always think klingon |
| 00:45.16 | MacRohard | :) |
| 00:45.18 | *** join/#asterisk cuban (~cuban@border0-hou.cuban.cc) |
| 00:45.38 | cuban | Woah, |
| 00:45.51 | [TK]D-Fender | No, I only KNOW too much :) |
| 00:45.55 | pfn | goddamnit, my laptop is pissing me off |
| 00:45.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Freaks I know COLLECT. |
| 00:46.00 | cuban | Wikipedia is in the process of being translated to klingon. So is KDE. |
| 00:46.04 | pfn | I need to call up the helpdesk tomorrow and get them to ship me a fucking replacement |
| 00:46.04 | blaisen1 | firefox is not bad, just tried it today |
| 00:46.12 | pfn | stupid LCD display keeps wacking out on me |
| 00:46.29 | pfn | I hate this shit, though |
| 00:46.32 | cuban | Okay, maybe not wikipedia |
| 00:46.32 | pfn | they need to do on-site repairs |
| 00:46.39 | pfn | not shipped |
| 00:46.46 | cuban | wait here it is |
| 00:46.57 | cuban | [TK]D-Fender: http://tlh.wikipedia.org/wiki/ghItlh%27a%27 |
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| 00:47.52 | [TK]D-Fender | cuban : &^%򌀤#73 BLARG! |
| 00:48.06 | cuban | ? |
| 00:48.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Thats just #&$ scary.... |
| 00:52.24 | blaisen1 | question: in the extensions.conf, would 1512NXXXXXX override 1NXXNXXXXXX? |
| 00:52.31 | Darwin35 | Jul 5 20:51:58 NOTICE[135388160]: chan_sip.c:3159 sip_reg_timeout: Registration for '447106@192.246.69.223' timed out, trying again |
| 00:52.31 | Darwin35 | Jul 5 20:51:59 NOTICE[135388160]: chan_sip.c:5052 handle_response: Failed to authenticate on REGISTER to '<sip:447106@fwd.pulver.com>;tag=as5468e6a6' |
| 00:52.36 | cuban | blaisen1: I fuckin wish. |
| 00:52.40 | cuban | blaisen1: It doesn't though. |
| 00:52.47 | blaisen1 | ahh crap |
| 00:52.48 | cuban | blaisen1: 1NXXNXXXXXX overwrites everything. |
| 00:53.07 | blaisen1 | so if I want to force local calls to be local and not go thru nufone whats the best way to do it? |
| 00:53.10 | cuban | blaisen1: Tell me about it. I'd like to send some of my calls different routes but have a default for all of em. |
| 00:53.18 | blaisen1 | i have a few people calling long distance to numbers that are local and I'd rather they didn't |
| 00:53.20 | cuban | blaisen1: Program EVERY EXCHANGE EVERRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 00:53.32 | cuban | blaisen1: Actually no. |
| 00:53.33 | blaisen1 | cuban: awh that sucks ass |
| 00:53.53 | cuban | blaisen1: Just do exten => 91NXXNXXXXXXX,1,Dial(nufoneblahblah) |
| 00:54.09 | cuban | exten => 9NXXNXXXXXXX,1,Dial(zap blah) |
| 00:54.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Doesn't more specific override less specific? |
| 00:54.53 | blaisen1 | yeah the problem is, the people using our phone system don't know what is locla and what is long distance, so if they assume it's long distance they stick a 1 in front and then it goes out by nufone |
| 00:54.58 | [TK]D-Fender | esp if you put the "more" one first? |
| 00:55.38 | [TK]D-Fender | blaisen1 : make an AGi to issue the Dial command then. |
| 00:55.48 | [TK]D-Fender | That should do it :) |
| 00:55.49 | blaisen1 | AGI? |
| 00:55.59 | blaisen1 | me duh |
| 00:56.14 | cuban | blaisen1: Oh I see. |
| 00:56.20 | [TK]D-Fender | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+AGI |
| 00:56.24 | cuban | blaisen1: AGI is a scripting language. |
| 00:56.35 | blaisen1 | ok gotcha |
| 00:56.48 | blaisen1 | more specific logic in extensions would be handy though |
| 00:57.07 | [TK]D-Fender | blaisen1 : or more specifically a means by which other languages (some easier than others) may help process calls in * |
| 00:57.11 | Nix | AGI is NOT a scripting language |
| 00:57.26 | cuban | blaisen1: AGI is NOT a scripting language. |
| 00:57.31 | [TK]D-Fender | 3 in a row! |
| 00:57.33 | [TK]D-Fender | :D |
| 00:57.35 | Nix | its an interface to allow you to use scripting or other languages to control asterisk |
| 00:57.47 | cuban | blaisen1: its an interface to allow you to use scripting or other languages to control asterisk |
| 00:57.48 | cuban | :-P |
| 00:57.54 | Nix | ;-) |
| 00:58.00 | Nix | heh |
| 00:58.06 | Nix | AGI is cool |
| 00:58.23 | Nix | although C apps are possibly cooler ;-) |
| 00:58.29 | [TK]D-Fender | POSSIBLY. |
| 00:58.36 | blaisen1 | so if I put ahead of 1NXXNXXXXXX a 1515NXXXXXX with a different dial sequence it won't match the first one? |
| 00:58.43 | [TK]D-Fender | I really should pick up on my C.... |
| 00:58.50 | Nix | Activity Percentile (last week): 87.3221% |
| 00:58.54 | Nix | woohoo |
| 00:59.06 | [TK]D-Fender | blaisen1 : I think it'll work... |
| 00:59.40 | [TK]D-Fender | seems to for my non-prefixed 7 digits OR (514./450.) split dialing. |
| 00:59.49 | Nix | http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=110879 |
| 00:59.51 | Nix | ;-) |
| 00:59.57 | blaisen1 | 514 would be the montreal |
| 01:00.03 | [TK]D-Fender | yup |
| 01:00.05 | blaisen1 | i know because thats where all my telemarketing comes from |
| 01:00.15 | blaisen1 | :) |
| 01:00.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Thats funny, its where I get calls AT from telemarketers ;P |
| 01:00.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Acutally most comes from ON |
| 01:01.29 | blaisen1 | actually i don't get telemarketing anymore now that i ditched my residential line and just have a work extension at home... i like it much better... friends and family have to get used to it but i don't care |
| 01:01.31 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm thinking of "Zapateller"ing all LD from #'s I don't know.... |
| 01:01.50 | [TK]D-Fender | blaisen1 : you trunk everything through your office? |
| 01:02.03 | blaisen1 | yeah |
| 01:02.10 | [TK]D-Fender | no home line at all? |
| 01:02.32 | [TK]D-Fender | wow.... cable I presume? |
| 01:03.04 | cuban | I have no home line either |
| 01:03.07 | cuban | Well I didn't until I got DSL |
| 01:03.14 | cuban | Now speakeasy offers DSL with no home line. |
| 01:03.15 | *** join/#asterisk Carp1 (Carp@ip-204-97-151-227.modem.logical.net) |
| 01:03.33 | cuban | Hm, someone give me their FWD number |
| 01:03.37 | Carp1 | whats up with the digium site? I havnt been there in a while, but I cant find prices for any of the cards |
| 01:03.37 | [TK]D-Fender | In Canada they still don't offer DSL on a "dry" line |
| 01:03.55 | blaisen1 | no cable no dsl |
| 01:04.08 | Carp1 | everything links to http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=74860 |
| 01:04.18 | blaisen1 | i have fixed wireless to my office |
| 01:05.30 | blaisen1 | ancient fhss breezecom gear, due to be replaced this summer... kinda waiting for better outdoor "g" gear (with better tx power and receive sensitivity) but that may not happen so i might have to go with 200mw "b" cards (-91 receive sens) |
| 01:05.48 | cuban | No one is in FWD 514... |
| 01:06.32 | Legend` | cuban: i think BKW scared them all off |
| 01:06.40 | blaisen1 | i'm on 514 now |
| 01:06.54 | Syncros | 514 montreal canada ;) |
| 01:07.19 | bkw_ | what? |
| 01:07.21 | bkw_ | no |
| 01:07.26 | bkw_ | fwd 514 can bite me |
| 01:07.32 | blaisen1 | i can't really udnerstand what is going on on 514 |
| 01:07.33 | cuban | bkw_: haha |
| 01:07.40 | cuban | blaisen1: Why what's wrong? |
| 01:07.55 | cuban | bkw_: What is your FWD number? |
| 01:08.01 | bkw_ | dont use it anymore |
| 01:08.04 | blaisen1 | i think we should set up a better conference line, get a dedicated FWD # and a 360# |
| 01:08.08 | cuban | bkw_: Ahh, I read the post on the list. |
| 01:08.08 | bkw_ | I dont want a 3mbit DoS again |
| 01:08.25 | Carp1 | whats up with the digium site? I havnt been there in a while, but I cant find prices for any of the cards |
| 01:08.27 | Carp1 | everything links to http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=74860 |
| 01:08.29 | cuban | What about iaxtel bkw? |
| 01:09.05 | bkw_ | 4249378 |
| 01:09.11 | bkw_ | but i'm not near a phone |
| 01:09.22 | CoaxD | bkw: C'mon over here and dance for me |
| 01:09.35 | CoaxD | bkw: With that cute little tight underwear dance you do so well |
| 01:10.29 | MacRohard | CoaxD, sup |
| 01:10.34 | CoaxD | MH: Nada |
| 01:10.38 | CoaxD | MH: You? |
| 01:10.43 | MacRohard | nuttin |
| 01:10.58 | CoaxD | MH: I'm just in here, hittin' on the ladies... Tis what i do for fun on a monday night |
| 01:11.15 | MacRohard | fair enough |
| 01:11.32 | CoaxD | MH: (Amongst helping these poor souls that come in here every 30 seconds - wanting asterisk help) |
| 01:11.38 | bkw_ | dude |
| 01:11.41 | lancey | bye guys |
| 01:11.46 | bkw_ | what part of i'm not at a phone did you not get |
| 01:11.49 | *** join/#asterisk Kumbang (~unknown@167.205.22.54) |
| 01:12.00 | cuban | Wasn't me |
| 01:12.28 | MacRohard | CoaxD, yea.. I mostly come here to flaunt the you must be nickserv auth'ed to join restriction. |
| 01:12.56 | Carp1 | how do you get to the digium store now? |
| 01:12.56 | CoaxD | MH: Hehe |
| 01:12.56 | Carp1 | since its not on their site |
| 01:12.56 | CoaxD | carp1: http://store.yahoo.com/asteriskpbx/ |
| 01:13.14 | Carp1 | thanks |
| 01:13.28 | CoaxD | carp1: And it *IS* on their site |
| 01:13.28 | *** join/#asterisk DoctorCTI (~marc@modemcable246.181-70-69.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 01:13.30 | MacRohard | man someone is selling 11 furby's on ebay for #7 |
| 01:13.35 | CoaxD | carp1: It just takes you there wen you go to check out |
| 01:13.38 | CoaxD | MH: Hahahah |
| 01:13.41 | CoaxD | mh: I should buy them |
| 01:13.45 | CoaxD | MH: My mom has 5 and counting |
| 01:13.50 | MacRohard | think of the carnage! |
| 01:14.04 | CoaxD | MH: Awww yea |
| 01:14.07 | CoaxD | MH: .22 fodder |
| 01:14.11 | MacRohard | haha |
| 01:14.19 | MacRohard | now THAT would be fun. |
| 01:15.38 | CoaxD | MH: Oh, i'm sure its happened |
| 01:15.44 | CoaxD | MH: I'd really loe to get it on tape |
| 01:16.10 | MacRohard | yeah.. you could actually offer furby hunting as a sport |
| 01:16.41 | CoaxD | MH: "YEAAAWWWN I'M UP! CRACK!@ !@#$BZZZT" |
| 01:16.51 | MacRohard | hehe |
| 01:16.54 | CoaxD | WAY LO TUMM TUMMMMMMBZZZZZCRACK !#@$!#$!$#NO CARRIER |
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| 01:18.51 | blaisen1 | anyone know who is the cheapest for Canadian PSTN termination w/ IAX? |
| 01:19.18 | paulc | blaisen1: You want a Canadian provider? Or just someone that terminates to Canada for cheap? |
| 01:20.09 | blaisen1 | paulc: just someone who terminates to canada for cheap |
| 01:20.21 | blaisen1 | paulc: I don't care where they are or if its US $ |
| 01:21.11 | blaisen1 | i'm working on a voip offering for our highspeed customers (small isp) and i want to offer local DIDs + unlimited calling so I'm trying to get the rates as low as possible, because obviously I'll be playing an averages game |
| 01:21.39 | bkw_ | http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/07/05/outback.mystery.ap/index.html |
| 01:21.43 | bkw_ | The dingo ate my baby! |
| 01:21.46 | paulc | voicepulse aren't bad.. I use 'em on and off.. or voiptalk.org, but priced in £s.. which works for me, having bank accounts in the UK.. bu tmaybe not for you here with our current exchange rate |
| 01:22.26 | ManxPower | Voicepulse is the only ITSP that has local numbers for me. |
| 01:22.34 | ManxPower | Well Vonage and Packet8 do too, but they don't count. |
| 01:22.36 | CoaxD | paulc: Dude. Dont even say voicepulse isnt bad |
| 01:22.48 | CoaxD | paulc: voicepulse is the most unreliable piece of crap there is |
| 01:22.52 | |Vulture| | lol |
| 01:23.02 | blaisen1 | is that doug humphrey on coloco's homepage? |
| 01:23.05 | CoaxD | paul: Last week, they were down 2 hours. and not even a message on their website |
| 01:23.56 | file | NuFone? |
| 01:23.57 | blaisen1 | nufone is the best i can find so far @ 2.01/cents minute... i've heard there are volume discounts i just don't know what my volume would be |
| 01:24.01 | paulc | I guess the deal with VP is I don't use 'em enough to notice the outages |
| 01:24.02 | CoaxD | paul: And its not just that they lost internet or something |
| 01:24.13 | mitcheloc | nufone is 2.9? |
| 01:24.18 | CoaxD | paul: Their site was pingable. but their servers wuoldnt accept logins |
| 01:24.20 | blaisen1 | no 2.01 |
| 01:24.25 | paulc | Wednesday wasn't it? I was doing my one-day-a-week-gig and remember people griping.. |
| 01:24.26 | file | NuFone is 2.01 for Canada, 2 for US |
| 01:24.26 | CoaxD | NUFone is $.02/min |
| 01:24.27 | iMediax | really? |
| 01:24.39 | mshades | Hi. Since I upgraded my * box, whenever I get an incoming call from my SIP provider, I get failed to authenticate user "3033330443" <sip:3033330443@64.94.164.78>. I put insecure=yes under the [voiceglo] section of sip.conf. Do I need to do something else? |
| 01:25.30 | blaisen1 | i think i'll stay away from coloco, if that is doug humphrey anyhow... <was a cidera/skycache customer> |
| 01:25.31 | ManxPower | I thin insecure= is only for [general] |
| 01:25.44 | CoaxD | Manx; It'll work in other contexts as well |
| 01:26.05 | ManxPower | CoaxD: insecure=yes basically means "anyone can connect", right? |
| 01:26.12 | ManxPower | Well "anyone" is not [happypeer] |
| 01:26.14 | CoaxD | Manx: Sorta |
| 01:26.21 | CoaxD | Manx: There's also a veryinsecure= as well i think |
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| 01:28.23 | mitcheloc | nufone used to be 2.9?? they must have gone down then? |
| 01:28.37 | CoaxD | mitch: Yep |
| 01:28.49 | mitcheloc | i see, heh new info to me as i'm using them heh |
| 01:28.55 | mitcheloc | why the decrease? |
| 01:31.26 | mshades | Hmmmm....insecure=yes and veryinsecure=yes didn't seem to work... Do I need an authuser in the register => ?? |
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| 01:32.53 | blaisen1 | mitcheloc: a lot of places are going into that bracket... 3 cents US/minute is too high |
| 01:32.56 | mshades | lemme get a fresh cvs... |
| 01:33.20 | iMediax | Costco offers 3 cents now.. |
| 01:33.27 | blaisen1 | mitcheloc: theres a sip provider (name escapes me at the moment) that offers a 2cent/min plan |
| 01:33.36 | iMediax | Nufone have a monthly fee as well? |
| 01:33.52 | blaisen1 | mitcheloc: there is iconnecthere that does 1.1 cents/min but with a million catches (monthly rate, high overage charge, round up to the minute etc) |
| 01:34.01 | *** join/#asterisk ckng128 (~ckng128@219.93.239.250) |
| 01:34.07 | blaisen1 | nufone has no monthly fee, its just prepaid... i'm REALLY happy with nufone |
| 01:34.12 | |Vulture| | iMediax: for a DID in like mich. or Ohio |
| 01:34.20 | iMediax | wow.. just straight pay as go? |
| 01:34.40 | iMediax | ahhh.. i'm sold |
| 01:34.42 | paulc | anyone here got iconnecthere outbound working ok? Mine used to, then broke, not sure why.. |
| 01:34.44 | |Vulture| | yes |
| 01:34.50 | blaisen1 | iconnecthere sucks |
| 01:35.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Jul 5 20:32:22 NOTICE[114696]: chan_sip.c:5066 handle_response: Failed to authenticate on INVITE to |
| 01:35.19 | |Vulture| | anyone have experience with Broadvoice? |
| 01:35.26 | mitcheloc | heh what would be nice is to give your credit card |
| 01:35.33 | mitcheloc | and have it pay as you go in $5 increments advanced |
| 01:35.34 | [TK]D-Fender | this is what I get tring to dial with FWD. Anyone got a quik solution (assuming I'm doing something popularly wrong) |
| 01:35.43 | mitcheloc | that way you don't have to worry about running out of minutes |
| 01:35.45 | Legend` | mitcheloc: voicepulse will do that |
| 01:35.57 | *** join/#asterisk s34n (~chatzilla@206.159.190.251) |
| 01:36.04 | mitcheloc | yea but i want something around 1 cent a minute =) |
| 01:36.15 | Legend` | ermm |
| 01:36.18 | Legend` | you are too cheak |
| 01:36.20 | Legend` | cheap |
| 01:36.23 | Legend` | pls die, ktnx |
| 01:36.30 | mitcheloc | lol |
| 01:36.33 | |Vulture| | connect is 2.9 |
| 01:36.40 | mitcheloc | everyone wants everything at the cheapest price possible |
| 01:36.46 | mitcheloc | thats a part of human nature |
| 01:36.51 | Legend` | but dude |
| 01:36.57 | Legend` | 2.9 isn't low enough? |
| 01:37.05 | mitcheloc | no it is, i use nufone |
| 01:37.14 | mitcheloc | and i paid for it at that rate |
| 01:37.17 | cuban | 2.9 is sorta expensive for local calls. |
| 01:37.17 | mitcheloc | it's damn low |
| 01:37.21 | mitcheloc | i don't know how they make money |
| 01:37.32 | mitcheloc | but i'm saying it's still better for me at least if i can get it for less |
| 01:37.33 | cuban | I mean with SBC buisness lines at 33 bucks a month, it makes way more sense just to get zap lines. |
| 01:37.47 | cuban | And with SBC offering unlimited long distance for 50 bucks a month... geeze |
| 01:37.48 | |Vulture| | yea 2.9 for loclas is expensive especially if most of your calls are local |
| 01:37.53 | mitcheloc | cuban: "zap lines"? |
| 01:38.07 | cuban | mitcheloc: POTS lines pluged into a zaptel interface |
| 01:38.16 | mitcheloc | heh k thats what i thought |
| 01:38.18 | blaisen1 | broadvoice apparently works well with asterisk |
| 01:38.25 | blaisen1 | but i haven't used it |
| 01:38.45 | |Vulture| | yea Im going to try BV when I my new phones come in |
| 01:39.28 | mshades | http://www.gtctelecom.com/ has 2.9 cent zap channels (1+) with no minimums/monthly fees if you pay online |
| 01:40.53 | cuban | zap channels? |
| 01:40.55 | blaisen1 | i saw a company offering 1.9 cents/minute voip long distance but can't remember where |
| 01:41.00 | cuban | You mean VOIP to PSTN |
| 01:41.16 | cuban | broadvoice gives you free local, go for it |
| 01:41.21 | cuban | pfn uses broadvoice |
| 01:41.29 | mshades | zap channels = pots |
| 01:41.29 | blaisen1 | and who knows if its a scam like the "1.1" cents/minute of iconnecthere (rounded up to the minute, 1000 minute blocks, 3.9cents/minute overage etc) |
| 01:42.07 | mitcheloc | blaisen: thats not fair dude, that isn't a scam, they tell you that, if they didn't then it would be, don't slander them |
| 01:42.17 | mitcheloc | it's your choice to sign up with them |
| 01:42.37 | paulc | it'd be nice if it worked though.. dunno why my setup broke one day - anything change their end aside from that voicemail upgrade? |
| 01:43.46 | blaisen1 | mitcheloc: rounding to the minute is considered to be a ripoff by most reputable ld providers because if you add up all your minutes on nufone and then say iCH you would find your ICH minutes greatly inflated |
| 01:44.16 | paulc | I'm all about the per second billing :) |
| 01:44.20 | blaisen1 | and if you use less than 1000 minutes you're paying more htan 1.1 cents/minute, and if you go over you're paying 3.9 cents (ouch) for each additional minute |
| 01:44.56 | blaisen1 | so in terms of real value i think nufone would probably be cheaper than ich, despite the appearance of lower "1.1" cents/minute rate... but hey, I'm not trying to pick a fight |
| 01:45.14 | cuban | I had an iconnecthere rep tell me they would press charges on me if I used asterisk with iconnecthere |
| 01:45.25 | Legend` | OMFG |
| 01:45.26 | Legend` | hah |
| 01:45.28 | |Vulture| | lol |
| 01:45.30 | cuban | Yeah. |
| 01:45.32 | cuban | I hung up on them |
| 01:45.35 | blaisen1 | really? I used it with asterisk I didn't know you couldn't |
| 01:46.02 | |Vulture| | cuban: did they tell you what they would charge you with? |
| 01:46.21 | Legend` | |Vulture|: its covered in the DMCA, duh |
| 01:46.25 | Legend` | he reverse engineered SIP |
| 01:46.38 | blaisen1 | when someone is charging per minute i don't know what objection they would have to BYOD... I could see broadvoice or something getting stinky about it (and surprisingly they are apparently cool with it from what i hear) |
| 01:46.44 | cuban | |Vulture|: I just hung up |
| 01:47.04 | cuban | blaisen1: Broadvoice told me not to do it either |
| 01:47.10 | blaisen1 | oh really? |
| 01:47.10 | cuban | blaisen1: They didnt' threaten me |
| 01:47.14 | paulc | that's funny.. but did you get * working with iconnecthere? I got inbound working fine, but can't make calls out.. |
| 01:47.20 | Legend` | at least nufone and voicepulse are friendly about it |
| 01:47.25 | cuban | blaisen1: They just said it's not supported and BV is for use with a single phone. |
| 01:47.33 | cuban | Legend`: Yea, because they both have services designed to do it |
| 01:47.46 | blaisen1 | i just had packet8 hooked up thru an fxo port... but it really sucked for sound quality and the delay was aweful |
| 01:47.49 | |Vulture| | well nufone and voicepulse are pay by the min, not unlimited like BV |
| 01:48.01 | cuban | BV is only unlimited local. |
| 01:48.12 | cuban | I was thinking of using vonage to an FXO port for free long distance at work. |
| 01:48.12 | blaisen1 | when you are paying per minute they shouldn't care, with unlimited since you could proxy it out to anyone they have reason to care. |
| 01:48.14 | JerJer | there is no such thing as unlimited |
| 01:48.14 | |Vulture| | cuban: BV offers unlimited LD too |
| 01:48.21 | file | unlimited is an illusion |
| 01:48.34 | file | unlimited evenings/weekends on cellular? I think not! |
| 01:48.34 | BoRiS | definately |
| 01:48.39 | JerJer | burn 4,000 minutes for 3 months in a row and see if you are still a customer on the 4th month |
| 01:48.40 | file | unlimited long distance? nope |
| 01:48.49 | file | actually my telco stopped calling it long distance and went to minutes |
| 01:49.01 | file | it saved many headaches |
| 01:49.02 | cuban | Well I'm using 4k minutes on nights/weekends on tmobile, no one has ever complained |
| 01:49.17 | |Vulture| | yea I don't know how they could |
| 01:49.17 | cuban | actually |
| 01:49.41 | PatrickDK | unlimited evenings/weekend/incoming is what I have |
| 01:49.49 | cuban | 4K total between nights/weekends and free tmobile to tmobiel |
| 01:49.49 | PatrickDK | I burn around 7000 a month |
| 01:49.53 | file | there's a limit and they'll talk to you |
| 01:49.54 | |Vulture| | PatrickDK: yea same here with Nextel |
| 01:49.57 | cuban | They discoutinued the free tombile to tmobile |
| 01:50.01 | file | depends on the provider though |
| 01:50.03 | PatrickDK | yep, nextel is nice :) |
| 01:50.07 | cuban | but I have the plan unless I change. |
| 01:50.10 | cuban | Nextel sucks in houston |
| 01:50.22 | |Vulture| | I love the nextel online accounting |
| 01:50.23 | PatrickDK | use asterisk |
| 01:50.23 | cuban | Shitty service, the two-way never worked. My company ditched them for verizon and saved 1000s |
| 01:50.27 | PatrickDK | call phone, it calls me back |
| 01:50.33 | iMediax | fwd cant dial 1-877? only 1-800? |
| 01:50.35 | PatrickDK | and I can make an outgoing call without cost :) |
| 01:50.36 | |Vulture| | its great for having 15 employee phones |
| 01:51.05 | |Vulture| | cuban: yea Nextel is expensive for the # of min you get |
| 01:51.21 | |Vulture| | but if its mostly employee to employee its very nice |
| 01:51.29 | PatrickDK | we use 2way alot at work |
| 01:51.38 | PatrickDK | a few thousand minutes of twoway a month per phone |
| 01:51.41 | cuban | We would try to use two way but it never worked |
| 01:51.53 | |Vulture| | plus all out phones have GPS tracking so we can route people to calls, and calculate milage |
| 01:51.53 | PatrickDK | I live next to d.c. so it isn't really a problm |
| 01:51.55 | cuban | Lots of that ever annoying buzzing noice |
| 01:52.20 | PatrickDK | hmm, ever heard buzz |
| 01:52.38 | file | iDEN unfortunately doesn't exist here |
| 01:52.41 | |Vulture| | I hate when people leave it on speaker and yell at the phone on 2way |
| 01:52.46 | file | so I've never used it |
| 01:52.52 | PatrickDK | once or twice a month I have really bad, uncanceled echo, but besides that it's good |
| 01:52.58 | file | I've used all the cellular networks though |
| 01:53.20 | file | here I mean |
| 01:53.59 | file | and I say |
| 01:53.59 | file | TOAST |
| 01:54.06 | PatrickDK | the only thing I have with nextel, is there is no possibility of roaming |
| 01:54.22 | cuban | Okay, when in doubt get drunk |
| 01:54.40 | file | you dingo you |
| 01:55.39 | paulc | Fido launched CityFido - a cell plan with unlimited usage within the local area for $40/month.. some bloke burned 5000 minutes.. they pulled him on it.. blah blah, small print, 5000 is the limit, blah.. oops.. they changed their mind.. unlimited really IS unlimited now.. |
| 01:55.42 | *** join/#asterisk cybyc (~cyb@Ottawa-HSE-ppp257687.sympatico.ca) |
| 01:56.01 | mitcheloc | eh jerjer that makes a really good point though, your 4K/month -3 months in a row |
| 01:56.01 | paulc | fuck.. mis-positioned scroll bar.. sorry - lagged reply |
| 01:56.10 | mitcheloc | what keeps people from signing up for an unlimited account |
| 01:56.15 | mitcheloc | and sharing it between a few asterisk servers |
| 01:56.15 | paulc | (in reply to JerJer re unlimited) |
| 01:56.39 | file | paulc: Fido is fun |