| 00:02.02 | kiso79 | Hmm, kinda dead in here |
| 00:02.04 | atacomm | so hows that hurricane going? |
| 00:02.24 | atacomm | business was like dead today, i wonder if a lot of people had work off |
| 00:02.27 | dcowgill | anywho i guess working 11 hours is enough for one day |
| 00:03.26 | twisted | heh |
| 00:03.27 | twisted | yeah |
| 00:03.29 | twisted | time to go home |
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| 00:05.27 | mitcheloc | does anyone here know the wireing schematic or how to wire from a tdm40b to the telco punch block? |
| 00:05.43 | dcowgill | arg must do new time sheet, god i just want to leave lol |
| 00:05.43 | mitcheloc | i.e. i don't know the colors for the main cat5 plug/rj11 plug |
| 00:05.54 | atacomm | its just an RJ11... ring and tip are all you need to be concerned about |
| 00:05.54 | dcowgill | wouldn't it be cat3 |
| 00:06.05 | dcowgill | or cat1 |
| 00:06.05 | mitcheloc | yea but it had a cat 5 jack |
| 00:06.07 | mitcheloc | so it fits both |
| 00:06.10 | dcowgill | ah |
| 00:06.23 | mitcheloc | doesn't matter to me so long as it works |
| 00:06.33 | mitcheloc | i don't know the colors/pins and then how to wire it passed that |
| 00:06.38 | dcowgill | crap now my timesheets of |
| 00:06.39 | dcowgill | f |
| 00:06.46 | mitcheloc | just hoping someone know befoer i spend 2 hours with trial and error =/ |
| 00:06.49 | atacomm | red & green isnt it? *shrug* i cant remember |
| 00:09.41 | pfn | damnit, how do I secure a directory with .htaccess (basic auth) and open it up in a child directory |
| 00:09.47 | pfn | using .htaccess in apache |
| 00:10.31 | gambolputty | www.lanshack.com |
| 00:10.34 | gambolputty | cat5 tutorial |
| 00:10.51 | Corydon76-home | pfn: Do you have AllowOverride AuthConfig in a Directory or Location section in httpd.conf? |
| 00:10.55 | pfn | yes |
| 00:11.06 | pfn | I have basic auth enabled already |
| 00:11.12 | pfn | I just want to disable it in the directory below |
| 00:11.48 | Corydon76-home | So put another Directory or Location section in, with Order deny,allow Deny from all |
| 00:12.49 | pfn | that's silly |
| 00:12.57 | pfn | I have allowoverride all in the parent directory already |
| 00:13.02 | pfn | it shouldn't be necessary in the child |
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| 00:14.44 | pfn | I can specify different authentication, but I can't figure out how to turn it off |
| 00:15.00 | mag`` | one note on the call parking issue I was getting help on before, I guess in the latest release you don't need the callandannounce extension, it will just tell you the extension its being parked at before transfering the call |
| 00:15.04 | mitcheloc | gambol: thats for cat5, i know how to do those, i mean from the tdm04b to the punchblock, just simple how to |
| 00:15.09 | mitcheloc | just wondering if there was one around |
| 00:15.34 | tzanger | mitcheloc: TDM04B to a punchblock? |
| 00:15.43 | mitcheloc | yep |
| 00:15.47 | mitcheloc | do you know how? |
| 00:15.51 | pfn | mitcheloc you plug an rj45 cable into the tdm04b, and split the wires out to a punchblock :p |
| 00:15.54 | tzanger | I don't understand what you're looking for... punchblock is BIX25 probably |
| 00:15.56 | pfn | take the 2 center wires and wire it up |
| 00:15.56 | kiso79 | Any MySQL nerds here? |
| 00:15.56 | tzanger | not RJ11 |
| 00:16.03 | pfn | and punch it down |
| 00:16.32 | mitcheloc | ok i'll just make the cable, i was just wondering if there was a guide to it, i'll have to play with it a bit |
| 00:16.41 | tzanger | tip and ring |
| 00:16.46 | tzanger | it's not too difficult :-) |
| 00:16.55 | pfn | it's not difficult at all |
| 00:17.00 | pfn | just take the pair and punch it down |
| 00:17.07 | atacomm | it sure does a lot for only being two wires, LOL |
| 00:18.00 | mitcheloc | ok i got it, just the center two matter right, got it |
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| 00:18.51 | pfn | ah, Satisfy any |
| 00:18.56 | tzanger | mitcheloc: yes |
| 00:19.18 | pfn | Satisfy any will override a lower level AuthType |
| 00:19.21 | jero | bbl |
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| 00:33.54 | Guest^DJ | any fax expert here please |
| 00:36.24 | pfn | how do you switch to privilege mode in the 79xx phones? has to be set from the config file prior to booting? |
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| 00:39.38 | JerJer | **# ? |
| 00:40.03 | mitcheloc | 9 |
| 00:40.07 | mitcheloc | settings -> 9 |
| 00:40.12 | mitcheloc | is that what you want? to unlock |
| 00:40.28 | mitcheloc | default pass is cisco |
| 00:40.34 | pfn | from telnet |
| 00:40.39 | JerJer | star 6 settings reboots (i think) |
| 00:40.56 | pfn | I feel like rebooting the phone remotely |
| 00:40.57 | pfn | heh |
| 00:41.03 | mitcheloc | telnet |
| 00:41.14 | mitcheloc | "reset" |
| 00:41.16 | pfn | I guess I need to set it in SIPxxx.cnf |
| 00:41.25 | pfn | SIP Phone> reset |
| 00:41.25 | pfn | WARNING: Command may only be used in privileged mode |
| 00:41.39 | pfn | no big deal, I can wait til I go home to reset the phone |
| 00:42.23 | mitcheloc | pfn, try test |
| 00:42.26 | mitcheloc | i don't know |
| 00:42.29 | mitcheloc | maybe a work around |
| 00:42.30 | mitcheloc | or not |
| 00:42.33 | mitcheloc | cause it'sall the same |
| 00:42.37 | pfn | also priv mode only |
| 00:42.41 | mitcheloc | was going to say star 6 settings |
| 00:42.46 | mitcheloc | ok bad luck there |
| 00:42.56 | pfn | 'sok, I'll screw around with it when I get home later |
| 00:45.06 | slePP | anyone using IPv6 over SIT that can do a temporary tunnel with me? |
| 00:46.07 | garath | ~seen cursor |
| 00:46.08 | jbot | cursor <~kevin@andromeda.office.cursor.biz> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 6h 2m 54s ago, saying: 'see you later'. |
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| 00:55.32 | Froze25 | can anyone help me with the zaptel configuration for the tdm400p fxs module card |
| 00:58.20 | Froze25 | the only information i have found deals with the x100p, or the t400p, s100u, t100p, but no tdm410b fxs station card |
| 00:58.23 | Froze25 | any one here |
| 00:58.24 | Froze25 | >/ |
| 00:58.25 | Froze25 | ? |
| 00:59.30 | Froze25 | bkw_ you here |
| 01:00.01 | Froze25 | its algorithmn's friend |
| 01:02.53 | Froze25 | hello hello |
| 01:03.00 | Froze25 | is anybody out there |
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| 01:03.40 | pfn | there's a lot of configs showing how to use the tdm400p |
| 01:03.47 | dcowgill | *shudder crappy commute |
| 01:03.53 | Froze25 | oh man help me out |
| 01:04.01 | Froze25 | ive been all over the voip info . org |
| 01:04.04 | Froze25 | digium |
| 01:04.11 | Froze25 | and asterisk sites |
| 01:04.40 | Froze25 | im tring to get it set up to work with voice pulse |
| 01:04.50 | menger | Froze25: isn't there a digium document on it? |
| 01:05.03 | menger | Froze25: for the tdm? |
| 01:05.09 | Froze25 | no for all others |
| 01:06.06 | Froze25 | that i have seen |
| 01:07.28 | menger | Froze25: did you look at the tdm sample configs |
| 01:07.41 | Froze25 | thats what im currently looking at |
| 01:08.09 | Froze25 | but i am talking on here using my windows machine |
| 01:08.19 | Froze25 | my buddys on the linux box |
| 01:08.20 | *** join/#asterisk surfer22nz (~surfer22n@219-89-81-105.adsl.xtra.co.nz) |
| 01:08.25 | surfer22nz | hi guys |
| 01:08.32 | surfer22nz | how are you all? |
| 01:08.38 | Froze25 | so/so |
| 01:08.39 | Froze25 | u |
| 01:08.48 | surfer22nz | same here.... |
| 01:08.55 | surfer22nz | problems with Asterisk... hehehe |
| 01:09.07 | pfn | problems... heh, user error |
| 01:09.16 | drumkilla | :) |
| 01:09.26 | surfer22nz | yeah it is... i hope so |
| 01:09.31 | surfer22nz | :) |
| 01:09.38 | Froze25 | ahh |
| 01:09.48 | menger | Froze25: well what is the problem then? |
| 01:10.11 | surfer22nz | I have installed Asterisk on Debian from CSV |
| 01:11.20 | Froze25 | cant open the tar file on my windows machine |
| 01:11.28 | menger | Froze25: get winzip |
| 01:11.35 | Froze25 | ehh |
| 01:11.57 | surfer22nz | i have compiled the Asterisk,... and zaptel / wcfxo modules... |
| 01:12.11 | twisted | CVS |
| 01:12.12 | surfer22nz | it's picking it up in debian but not asterisk |
| 01:12.13 | twisted | not CSV |
| 01:12.37 | surfer22nz | CVS newbie |
| 01:12.40 | surfer22nz | sorry |
| 01:12.43 | twisted | it's okay |
| 01:12.58 | twisted | i'm just tryin to correct your terminology so others don't make a mockery of you ;) |
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| 01:13.33 | Froze25 | im printing right now |
| 01:14.13 | twisted | mmm spam |
| 01:14.13 | twisted | brb |
| 01:14.33 | menger | lol, the steam from my soup has been turning the oven fan and light on and off |
| 01:14.37 | Q-At-Home | I need an Edmonton Alberta DID asap, anyone know where to get one? |
| 01:15.02 | Froze25 | try voice pulse? |
| 01:15.24 | Q-At-Home | hrmm |
| 01:15.28 | Q-At-Home | * friendly? |
| 01:15.28 | Froze25 | nufone doesnt seem to like to answer there fone or call back |
| 01:15.34 | Q-At-Home | email them |
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| 01:15.40 | Froze25 | ehh its all new to me too |
| 01:15.43 | Q-At-Home | nufone has always been excellent to me |
| 01:16.15 | Froze25 | really cus getting service from them has been like pulling teeth for me |
| 01:16.47 | garath | Sounds like fun :/ |
| 01:17.03 | Froze25 | ud figure they would want the money |
| 01:17.15 | Q-At-Home | Froze25: I paypal'ed them $10 |
| 01:17.19 | surfer22nz | when i run the utility #ztcfg -vv the output i get is : Channel 01: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 01) / 1 channels configured. |
| 01:17.20 | pfn | I wonder where nufone really makes their money |
| 01:17.23 | Q-At-Home | and in litreally 5 minutes had my toll free did |
| 01:17.29 | pfn | cuz it's hard to make it off of petty users like us |
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| 01:17.33 | pfn | IMO |
| 01:17.45 | Fry77 | does anybody know how to debug a Zap channel ? |
| 01:17.55 | Q-At-Home | I'm betting he runs an online dating service |
| 01:17.55 | pfn | surfer22nz and that's a problem? |
| 01:17.56 | Q-At-Home | :) |
| 01:19.03 | Froze25 | q at home do u think they have a automated system for did asignment |
| 01:19.11 | surfer22nz | pfn: the problem is i dont see the channel in Asterisk, when i run "show channels" |
| 01:19.27 | pfn | um |
| 01:19.36 | twisted | show channels only shows you active channels. |
| 01:19.37 | pfn | show channels doesn't show available channels |
| 01:19.59 | surfer22nz | phn: the modules compiled nicely and installed |
| 01:20.11 | Q-At-Home | Froze25: nope, jeremy emailed me directly |
| 01:20.11 | menger | surfer22nz: did you configure zapata.conf? |
| 01:20.18 | Q-At-Home | I think the secret is, PAY THEM :) |
| 01:20.22 | surfer22nz | pfn: how can i test if they are seeing by Asterisk? |
| 01:20.29 | twisted | surfer22nz, pick up the phone |
| 01:20.35 | pfn | indeed |
| 01:20.46 | Froze25 | i really just like a human voice |
| 01:20.59 | Q-At-Home | get used to it |
| 01:20.59 | Q-At-Home | :0 |
| 01:21.01 | surfer22nz | menger: yes i did configure zapta.conf there were few websites with example config for NZ |
| 01:21.15 | pfn | surfer22nz so plug in a phone line and try it |
| 01:21.50 | surfer22nz | pfn: yes i did, but it's just risging... nothing is happening... and when i type "answer |
| 01:22.10 | pfn | if it's ringing then it sees it |
| 01:22.15 | pfn | if you see ringing in the console |
| 01:22.19 | surfer22nz | answer in CLI --> "no one is calling us" is what i get back |
| 01:22.33 | pfn | you can't answer from the console |
| 01:22.37 | twisted | wait |
| 01:22.37 | pfn | unless you dial the console |
| 01:22.48 | twisted | surfer22nz, did you get the red module, or the green one? |
| 01:23.14 | pfn | surfer22nz was saying wcfxo? x100p then |
| 01:23.16 | pfn | not tdm400p |
| 01:23.28 | surfer22nz | pfn: oh ok, i was trying to dial or answer... nothing happns |
| 01:23.37 | pfn | what do you mean nothing happens |
| 01:23.39 | pfn | something happens |
| 01:23.43 | surfer22nz | twisted: red or green???? |
| 01:23.44 | pfn | you can't dial from the console unless you configure it |
| 01:23.48 | pfn | you need to configure your dialplan |
| 01:23.52 | twisted | pfn: i never saw anything about wcfxo |
| 01:23.55 | twisted | just ztcfg |
| 01:24.04 | surfer22nz | pfn: yes it's a x100p |
| 01:24.06 | Froze25 | hmm the tdm config samples are for the x100p and the s100u |
| 01:24.18 | Froze25 | not the tdm400p |
| 01:24.19 | pfn | <surfer22nz> i have compiled the Asterisk,... and zaptel / wcfxo modules... |
| 01:24.25 | twisted | ahh |
| 01:24.26 | twisted | k |
| 01:24.27 | Froze25 | this is driving me nutz |
| 01:24.29 | pfn | right before you corrected with CVS |
| 01:24.37 | pfn | he said that immediately before you said CVS |
| 01:24.39 | twisted | got ya |
| 01:24.58 | surfer22nz | i can let you log into the box if anyone is interested in looking at it? |
| 01:24.59 | pfn | what the hell is s100u |
| 01:25.08 | twisted | s100u was a mistake |
| 01:25.08 | Froze25 | hey man got me |
| 01:25.14 | twisted | s100u was a usb fxs adapter |
| 01:25.27 | garath | usb? |
| 01:25.28 | Froze25 | yes i dont have that though |
| 01:25.35 | garath | How interesting. |
| 01:25.38 | pfn | usb fxs, heh |
| 01:25.44 | pfn | mistake indeed |
| 01:25.52 | surfer22nz | pfn: did you use CVS? or RC1? |
| 01:25.55 | garath | USB 1.1? or 1.0 :P |
| 01:26.05 | pfn | I've been using CVS for a month or two now |
| 01:26.23 | twisted | garath, doesn't matter, they aren't being sold any longer ;) |
| 01:26.54 | surfer22nz | pfn: i installed it yet... thinking if i should use RC1, might make a difference... can it be a bug or something? |
| 01:26.54 | garath | I would hope so. |
| 01:27.13 | garath | @twisted |
| 01:27.28 | twisted | surfer22nz, two things to check: 1) make sure the line is plugged into the LINE port on the x100p |
| 01:27.30 | atacomm | careful, using @twisted might get you sued |
| 01:27.44 | twisted | 2) make sure you have them setup zapata.conf to recognize the channel. |
| 01:27.45 | garath | I was directing a comment to twisted |
| 01:27.47 | pfn | surfer22nz do you see ringing in the console or what? |
| 01:27.48 | twisted | and actually |
| 01:27.57 | garath | There is nothing wrong with that that I am aware of |
| 01:27.59 | twisted | 3) zaptel.conf needs to be seutp correctly |
| 01:28.05 | pfn | you cannot answer or dial from the console until you do additional configuration |
| 01:28.18 | surfer22nz | twisted: yes i have checked that 100 times... it's fustrating... i got the internal and voicemail up and running...t hats the only thing that stopping me |
| 01:28.35 | pfn | what is happening *precisely* |
| 01:28.44 | pfn | do you see anything happen in the console when you get a call? |
| 01:29.04 | darkthrn | Okay....I'm about to go out of my mind |
| 01:29.14 | darkthrn | What could cause a call to drop immediately after answer? |
| 01:29.23 | darkthrn | Using an ATA 186, SIP |
| 01:29.23 | twisted | darkthrn, what technology? |
| 01:29.26 | twisted | ahh |
| 01:29.30 | darkthrn | haha |
| 01:29.30 | pfn | darkthrn incompatible codecs |
| 01:29.32 | twisted | rtp streams not being connected will be one |
| 01:29.36 | darkthrn | pfn I thought so too |
| 01:29.44 | surfer22nz | pfn: no i dont see anything on the console when i ring the number :( |
| 01:29.46 | twisted | yes, incompatible codecs |
| 01:29.52 | darkthrn | pfn But, using LBR,RX, and TX codecs of 3 |
| 01:29.56 | darkthrn | and disallow=all |
| 01:29.59 | darkthrn | and allow=g729 |
| 01:30.09 | twisted | i don't think the 186 does g729, does it? |
| 01:30.11 | pfn | where is g729 coming from? |
| 01:30.17 | pfn | yes, that, too |
| 01:30.19 | darkthrn | Yeah...Cisco 186 has g729 |
| 01:30.22 | twisted | okay |
| 01:30.26 | twisted | do you have the licenses for *? |
| 01:30.27 | pfn | does your * do g729? |
| 01:30.30 | darkthrn | Yep. |
| 01:30.44 | pfn | what does it say in the console? |
| 01:30.47 | darkthrn | and g.729 show license usage works |
| 01:31.09 | darkthrn | It attempts to go to native bridging, then it ...either gets or sends a bye...i have to look to be sure. |
| 01:31.22 | twisted | ooooh |
| 01:31.32 | twisted | try canreinvite=no |
| 01:31.32 | darkthrn | endpoint rings. |
| 01:31.34 | pfn | don't reinvite, maybe |
| 01:31.43 | darkthrn | Already tried :( |
| 01:32.06 | twisted | it still tried to native bridge with canreinvite=no? |
| 01:32.24 | pfn | sip reload |
| 01:32.24 | pfn | :p |
| 01:32.31 | twisted | heh |
| 01:32.31 | twisted | yea |
| 01:32.47 | atacomm | so, i was doing the math ... @COMM is 42% different from Atacomm.... how can they claim we violate their mark when its 42% different? |
| 01:32.51 | darkthrn | let me try |
| 01:33.01 | pfn | where'd you come up with 42%? |
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| 01:33.11 | surfer22nz | pfn / twisted: how can i check if the cannel's been registered in Asterisk? |
| 01:33.11 | darkthrn | I reloaded already, but it's possible I screwed up and didn't reload after that change. |
| 01:33.21 | pfn | 4 / 7? |
| 01:33.22 | twisted | surfer22nz, zap show channels |
| 01:33.31 | atacomm | pfn: 4 characters are the same..... and one of theirs is totally different from 3 of ours |
| 01:33.47 | surfer22nz | it doesnt recognise "zap" as a valid command |
| 01:33.53 | pfn | indeed, 4 / 7 |
| 01:33.54 | twisted | surfer22nz, then you don't have chan_zap loaded. |
| 01:34.08 | pfn | surfer22nz you need to build asterisk *after* you build and install zaptel |
| 01:34.08 | atacomm | pfn: by a legal standard, that is hardly equal |
| 01:34.11 | surfer22nz | ah... could that be a problem |
| 01:34.22 | pfn | atacomm that's being nerdy, not legal :p |
| 01:35.03 | atacomm | pfn: but it is so true; they down own an AT COMM mark... they own @COMM... there is another company that was started before them which had ATCOM; i bet they have no ability to actually do anything without invalidating their trademark |
| 01:35.04 | surfer22nz | pfn: if you load zaptel befor asterisk, does it automatically load zap_chan? |
| 01:35.28 | pfn | surfer22nz you need to compile zaptel before compiling asterisk |
| 01:35.31 | pfn | then it'll create chan_zap |
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| 01:36.09 | pfn | then you have to make install and run asterisk |
| 01:36.14 | darkthrn | Yeah, I had already reloaded |
| 01:36.19 | twisted | it even says right there on the asterisk.org page |
| 01:36.32 | twisted | upack zaptel before asterisk |
| 01:36.36 | twisted | compile zaptel before asterisk |
| 01:36.40 | twisted | install zaptel before asterisk |
| 01:36.56 | mogorman | following the directions is fun and educational... |
| 01:37.21 | surfer22nz | thankyou twisted / pfn i will try that tonight :) |
| 01:37.32 | twisted | surfer22nz, k |
| 01:38.45 | darkthrn | twisted Any other ideas? |
| 01:39.07 | twisted | darkthrn, try another codec? |
| 01:39.23 | darkthrn | twisted So you know... the setup is ATA -> Asterisk -> Proxy -> Proxy -> Asterisk -> PSTN |
| 01:39.36 | twisted | proxy proxy? |
| 01:39.37 | jr99 | who-hoo! hardware is on the way and I have a tracking number! |
| 01:39.39 | jr99 | finally. |
| 01:39.40 | darkthrn | twisted It works from ATA -> Proxy -> Proxy -> Asterisk -> PSTN |
| 01:39.40 | twisted | you mean NAT? |
| 01:39.45 | darkthrn | twisted no nat. |
| 01:39.52 | twisted | then wtf are the proxy's? |
| 01:39.58 | twisted | if you say sip proxies i'm gonna cry. |
| 01:39.59 | darkthrn | twisted Billing servers |
| 01:40.03 | darkthrn | twisted cry |
| 01:40.09 | twisted | well |
| 01:40.13 | darkthrn | ;) |
| 01:40.15 | twisted | it's probally something to do with the proxies then. |
| 01:40.18 | twisted | go direct to * |
| 01:40.21 | twisted | i bet it works. |
| 01:40.24 | darkthrn | Not so sure. |
| 01:40.42 | darkthrn | Because I have a setup that it works...I'm just having a ton of trouble replicating it. |
| 01:40.47 | pfn | darkthrn so read the sip packets |
| 01:40.55 | darkthrn | That's what I'm about to do. |
| 01:40.55 | pfn | it'll tell you what's going on |
| 01:40.56 | twisted | first of all |
| 01:40.57 | pfn | ethereal to the rescue |
| 01:41.01 | twisted | use IAX to connect your two asterisk boxes |
| 01:41.03 | darkthrn | tethereal is my savior. |
| 01:41.09 | twisted | you can use CDR outputs to bill from. |
| 01:41.17 | darkthrn | twisted I can't. |
| 01:41.34 | darkthrn | twisted Doesn't work that way. Proxy 1 is not my company |
| 01:41.34 | pfn | since you only have 1 iax user, you can't specify multiple accountcodes... |
| 01:41.40 | twisted | *sigh* |
| 01:41.44 | twisted | no idea then. |
| 01:41.48 | twisted | but the proxies are probally the problem. |
| 01:41.58 | darkthrn | Plus, the billing server is also an H.323 GK |
| 01:42.01 | darkthrn | twisted I sort of doubt it |
| 01:42.04 | twisted | i don't |
| 01:42.11 | darkthrn | because I know I can go ATA -> Proxy -> Asterisk -> PSTN |
| 01:42.16 | twisted | yes |
| 01:42.22 | pfn | then read your sip packets |
| 01:42.22 | twisted | but it works fine from endpoint through one proxy |
| 01:42.24 | darkthrn | and ATA -> Asterisk -> Proxy -> SIP |
| 01:42.24 | twisted | that's a known fact. |
| 01:42.28 | pfn | this is all speculation until you can provide more detail |
| 01:42.30 | twisted | exactly |
| 01:42.33 | darkthrn | Yeah |
| 01:42.35 | darkthrn | Let me dig deeper. |
| 01:42.39 | twisted | which means one of your proxies is problematic. |
| 01:42.39 | darkthrn | thanks guys. |
| 01:42.54 | darkthrn | twisted Well, ATA -> Proxy -> Proxy -> Asterisk works |
| 01:42.59 | twisted | yes |
| 01:43.11 | darkthrn | so...I think I'm screwing up somewhere |
| 01:43.14 | Froze25 | if i may rephrase, im at the point when i need to install the tdm400 digium card into the kernel |
| 01:43.16 | twisted | but you're trying to go ATA -> Asterisk -> proxy -> proxy -> asterisk |
| 01:43.28 | darkthrn | twisted which I've also done in another life |
| 01:43.32 | darkthrn | with the same 2 proxies. |
| 01:43.35 | twisted | well |
| 01:43.35 | pfn | froze25 no, you install the modules, not into the kernel |
| 01:43.41 | darkthrn | so I'm screwing up somewhere ;) |
| 01:43.56 | Froze25 | what are these modules called? |
| 01:44.01 | darkthrn | Alright...let me dig deeper...I'll ask again if I can narrow it down. |
| 01:44.04 | Froze25 | thankx btw |
| 01:44.10 | darkthrn | Thanks guys |
| 01:44.14 | pfn | froze the wiki provides all the information you need, zaptel |
| 01:44.19 | pfn | install zaptel |
| 01:44.21 | Froze25 | did that |
| 01:44.27 | Froze25 | and zapala |
| 01:44.44 | pfn | configure zaptel.conf and zapata.conf |
| 01:44.49 | Froze25 | asterisk is running fine and recognizes the zap module |
| 01:44.56 | pfn | insmod zaptel and wcfxs |
| 01:44.58 | Froze25 | i was playing with that... are you farmiliar with the hardware? |
| 01:45.01 | pfn | then what's the problem now? |
| 01:45.11 | Froze25 | im new to this.. thats the real problem |
| 01:45.28 | pfn | research the wiki some more |
| 01:45.31 | pfn | like read it from top to bottom |
| 01:45.49 | Froze25 | at what point should i see a link light on the fxs line |
| 01:45.49 | darkthrn | Ah |
| 01:45.53 | darkthrn | I forgot to mention the best part |
| 01:46.04 | pfn | I have 2 fxs modules in my tdm400p, only 1 led ever lights up |
| 01:46.05 | twisted | there is no link light on the fxs line |
| 01:46.06 | pfn | and it's on all the time |
| 01:46.08 | darkthrn | PSTN -> Asterisk -> Proxy -> Proxy -> Asterisk -> ATA works |
| 01:46.09 | Q-At-Home | vonage.ca's business pack, anyone used it? |
| 01:46.09 | Froze25 | lol |
| 01:46.17 | twisted | the light is the power light for the module |
| 01:46.19 | Q-At-Home | (I know I need to use a fxo to the adapter) |
| 01:46.22 | twisted | which means the module is active. |
| 01:46.26 | pfn | twisted but wtf is only 1 LED lit |
| 01:46.28 | twisted | (on) |
| 01:46.30 | pfn | my card must be defective.... |
| 01:46.31 | pfn | bleh |
| 01:46.42 | twisted | pfn, do both modules work? |
| 01:46.46 | pfn | yes |
| 01:46.51 | pfn | both modules work fine |
| 01:46.51 | twisted | heh.. i dunno then |
| 01:46.56 | pfn | indeed |
| 01:47.04 | twisted | but i know what they're supposed to do |
| 01:47.23 | pfn | darkthrn then it's a codec problem |
| 01:47.39 | pfn | codec or nat |
| 01:48.08 | Froze25 | pfn... do i hear chirps on the line after the zap configs (no service provider setup yet?) |
| 01:48.16 | pfn | froze25 use zttool to check line status |
| 01:48.17 | pfn | chirps? |
| 01:48.25 | Froze25 | zttool? |
| 01:48.33 | Froze25 | u know... almost like pulse dialing |
| 01:48.43 | Froze25 | right when you pick up the tele |
| 01:48.55 | pfn | there are no clicks when you pick up the line |
| 01:49.10 | Froze25 | i know vonage has'em |
| 01:49.19 | twisted | uhm |
| 01:49.19 | twisted | dude |
| 01:49.21 | twisted | no |
| 01:49.25 | twisted | vonage out of the picture |
| 01:49.26 | Froze25 | lol |
| 01:49.36 | twisted | you're dealing in hardware TDM now |
| 01:49.36 | pfn | vonage doesn't have any clicks |
| 01:49.40 | pfn | what crack are you smoking? :p |
| 01:49.50 | twisted | pfn, he's probally referring to the ata making clicks for some reason |
| 01:49.59 | twisted | or possibly his phone :P |
| 01:50.02 | Froze25 | rojer that pfn |
| 01:50.04 | bkw_ | ok I have 11 DVD's full of mp3's |
| 01:50.07 | bkw_ | who wants them? |
| 01:50.11 | Froze25 | mr west |
| 01:50.16 | Froze25 | how are you today? |
| 01:50.17 | bkw_ | whats up? |
| 01:50.20 | bkw_ | great |
| 01:50.23 | Froze25 | its algorithmns friend |
| 01:51.07 | bkw_ | brb |
| 01:51.29 | doughecka | photos! |
| 01:51.36 | twisted | uhm bkw |
| 01:51.47 | twisted | you can't come back after you do that |
| 01:51.54 | doughecka | sure he can |
| 01:51.57 | twisted | so brb isn't at all relevant |
| 01:51.57 | doughecka | as a ghost |
| 01:52.00 | bkw_ | yes I can... brb |
| 01:52.06 | *** join/#asterisk Raspul (Nitrus@66-75-244-56.san.rr.com) |
| 01:52.08 | bkw_ | SHAKE IT |
| 01:52.10 | doughecka | bkw_: 11 dvds of what TYPE of mp3s? |
| 01:52.17 | doughecka | classical? |
| 01:52.18 | twisted | doughecka, i'm assuming music. |
| 01:52.20 | pfn | 11 dvds, 40gb... hrm |
| 01:52.24 | bkw_ | Shake your grove thing... |
| 01:52.24 | twisted | :P |
| 01:52.27 | bkw_ | doughecka everything |
| 01:52.29 | bkw_ | LOTS of stuff |
| 01:52.32 | chuji | shake it like a poloroid picture |
| 01:52.33 | doughecka | got any classical? |
| 01:52.39 | bkw_ | doughecka might be on there |
| 01:52.44 | Froze25 | wish me luck with that n thnxs |
| 01:52.51 | doughecka | you wanting to share these dvd? |
| 01:52.52 | doughecka | s |
| 01:52.52 | doughecka | ? |
| 01:53.05 | Raspul | do i have to use the motorolla stuff vonage sends in order to use their lines or can i plug directly into my asterisk box and just use the SIP in there? |
| 01:53.10 | pfn | hmm, I hope my box at the office comes back up, I hate rebooting |
| 01:53.12 | pfn | raspul no |
| 01:53.21 | Raspul | didnt think so |
| 01:53.22 | pfn | raspul you need to use their box |
| 01:53.25 | bkw_ | doughecka they gonna go in da trash if nobody wants them |
| 01:53.31 | doughecka | bkw_: oh... |
| 01:53.36 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:53.51 | doughecka | even if I wont listen to most of it |
| 01:54.05 | Raspul | pfn: why doesnt it work anyways, proprietary crap? |
| 01:54.17 | doughecka | bkw_: how much would shipping be? |
| 01:54.23 | doughecka | or would you pay for it? :P |
| 01:54.45 | pfn | raspul more or less |
| 01:55.01 | pfn | heh |
| 01:55.03 | Raspul | i wish they woulda had a rackmount version of those boxes though |
| 01:55.10 | Raspul | makes things rather messy |
| 01:55.21 | libpcp | i have Wildcard X101P, I would like to ask what is the purpose of the other slot with a handset image on it? the other slot is for line. |
| 01:55.32 | doughecka | libpcp: for plugging a handset into |
| 01:55.35 | pfn | libpcp no purpose |
| 01:55.37 | doughecka | just like a regular modem |
| 01:55.41 | pfn | you plug a phone line in there for pass through, |
| 01:55.47 | pfn | er, a phone |
| 01:55.54 | doughecka | . |
| 01:56.18 | libpcp | is that an fxs port? |
| 01:56.21 | doughecka | no |
| 01:56.24 | doughecka | its just a pass through |
| 01:56.28 | doughecka | just like a regular modem |
| 01:56.32 | pfn | damnit, why do you keep asking this? |
| 01:56.37 | pfn | we've answered you like 5 times already |
| 01:56.40 | pfn | it's not an fxs port |
| 01:56.40 | Raspul | libpcp: you wish it was an fxs port, life would be rather cheap |
| 01:56.59 | Raspul | the x101p is identical to a modem |
| 01:57.03 | Raspul | because that is what it is |
| 01:57.06 | bkw_ | doughecka I have no clue |
| 01:57.13 | bkw_ | 6-10 bucks |
| 01:57.14 | Raspul | so it serves the same purpose as that additional port on your modem |
| 01:57.52 | pfn | oh, ok, figured out why line drawing characters weren't working on fc2 |
| 01:57.57 | pfn | need to disable UTF-8 support |
| 01:58.07 | pfn | cuz the kernel that ships with fc2 is b0rked |
| 01:58.09 | libpcp | Raspul: if i plug a telephone line on the port i could use it to dialup to my isp right? |
| 01:58.25 | Raspul | not the handset port |
| 01:58.30 | Raspul | you plug a phone into it |
| 01:58.32 | Raspul | its a passthrough |
| 01:58.41 | Raspul | go test it out |
| 01:58.44 | Raspul | and youll see what we mean |
| 02:00.03 | libpcp | im plugging a phone line now, what will happen? |
| 02:00.32 | doughecka | ok. |
| 02:00.37 | doughecka | you have 2 ports |
| 02:00.38 | Raspul | NOT A PHONE LINE, a PHONE |
| 02:00.44 | doughecka | one port is plugged into wall correct? |
| 02:00.53 | libpcp | yeah i have 2 ports |
| 02:01.11 | doughecka | the other port you would hook up to say a fax machine, or a modem, or a phone, so if the computer was DOWN or OFF, you could still send/recieve calls |
| 02:01.12 | libpcp | doughecka: yeah |
| 02:01.38 | doughecka | but if the computer is on, and activly answering calls, you could only use the port for outgoing calls |
| 02:01.44 | doughecka | to the regular phone line |
| 02:02.11 | libpcp | okay, now its clear to me what is the purpose of the other port |
| 02:02.22 | libpcp | thanks for your great explanation guys |
| 02:02.27 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:02.28 | doughecka | np |
| 02:02.32 | Raspul | maybe |
| 02:02.37 | Raspul | it took 4 ppl to explain it ;) |
| 02:02.40 | doughecka | hah |
| 02:02.57 | Raspul | either his understanding is horrid or we suck at explaining |
| 02:03.08 | doughecka | oh, and watch out for the thingy that plugs into the green thing on the back of the hard drive too |
| 02:03.14 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:03.19 | pfn | his understanding is horrid |
| 02:03.21 | pfn | he must be 14 |
| 02:03.22 | pfn | :p |
| 02:03.25 | Raspul | indeed |
| 02:03.26 | doughecka | hey |
| 02:03.29 | Raspul | i dont wanna get too nasty though |
| 02:03.41 | doughecka | your giving the 14 year olds a bad name! (joke, laugh hahahah) |
| 02:03.42 | Raspul | cuz if hes 14 and making an effort to learn this stuff thats pretty cool |
| 02:03.44 | pfn | ugh, fractional t1's suck |
| 02:04.03 | doughecka | pfn: true, but tis cheaper than a full T1 for both voice and data... |
| 02:04.03 | Raspul | pfn: at least theyre not as expensive ;) |
| 02:04.05 | doughecka | but then |
| 02:04.11 | doughecka | get a full Data t1 |
| 02:04.14 | doughecka | and do voip |
| 02:04.21 | pfn | suckass, our fractional t1 is only 384/384 |
| 02:04.27 | pfn | it's so goddamnslow |
| 02:04.36 | doughecka | oh |
| 02:04.45 | doughecka | frac t1s suck |
| 02:04.46 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:04.57 | doughecka | pfn: bah |
| 02:05.00 | doughecka | you dont need phone calls |
| 02:05.05 | pfn | that's what I just said |
| 02:05.06 | pfn | :p |
| 02:05.07 | doughecka | move it all to 100% data |
| 02:05.10 | pfn | fractional sucks |
| 02:05.15 | pfn | we don't have any phone lines over it |
| 02:05.21 | doughecka | oh |
| 02:05.24 | pfn | just data, people I work with are cheap about getting a full t1 |
| 02:05.29 | doughecka | bah |
| 02:05.34 | doughecka | buy a cable modem for them |
| 02:05.38 | Raspul | what kinda business? |
| 02:05.39 | doughecka | gift wrap it |
| 02:05.45 | doughecka | offer to pay for the first month |
| 02:05.46 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:05.52 | pfn | raspul startup MSP IT work |
| 02:06.05 | Raspul | ahh |
| 02:06.10 | Raspul | i know the feeling |
| 02:06.19 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:06.20 | Raspul | its like they dont even have pockets |
| 02:06.27 | pfn | indeed |
| 02:06.52 | Raspul | maybe thats why the expression pay outta their ass came about |
| 02:07.32 | Raspul | anyone have commentary on running * on 2.6 kerns? |
| 02:07.39 | doughecka | Raspul: dont |
| 02:07.41 | pfn | works for me |
| 02:07.44 | doughecka | heh |
| 02:07.47 | pfn | although, I have no zaptel hardware still |
| 02:07.51 | doughecka | at least on fedora core 2 |
| 02:07.52 | pfn | not in my fc2 box |
| 02:07.56 | Raspul | ahh |
| 02:07.56 | doughecka | zaptel just blows it up |
| 02:07.57 | pfn | fc2 works for me |
| 02:07.58 | Raspul | i run a t100p |
| 02:08.03 | Raspul | so not good for me |
| 02:08.07 | pfn | but again, no hardware in that box |
| 02:08.08 | doughecka | pfn: ah, zaptel is a beast on 2.6 |
| 02:08.14 | doughecka | Raspul: well |
| 02:08.21 | pfn | doughecka I have the zaptel drivers compiled and loaded |
| 02:08.21 | doughecka | my experience with core 2 and zaptel... |
| 02:08.25 | pfn | I load zaptel and ztdummy |
| 02:08.32 | doughecka | kernel panics all the day lonh |
| 02:08.32 | pfn | although, ztdummy seems to suckass for meetme |
| 02:08.33 | doughecka | logn* |
| 02:08.39 | Raspul | hahaha |
| 02:08.41 | pfn | haven't gotten any kernel panics yet |
| 02:08.41 | doughecka | pfn: oh, they WORK |
| 02:08.46 | pfn | with zaptel and ztdummy |
| 02:08.48 | doughecka | but if you do anything fancy |
| 02:08.50 | doughecka | like.. |
| 02:08.51 | doughecka | oh... |
| 02:08.53 | Raspul | is there any other compatible t1 cards for *? |
| 02:08.55 | doughecka | hangup the line |
| 02:08.57 | doughecka | it kernel panics |
| 02:09.07 | doughecka | Raspul: no, I would go with a 2.4 kernel |
| 02:09.08 | pfn | that should be easy enough to fix |
| 02:09.18 | pfn | we'll see what happens when we get a t100p in there |
| 02:09.22 | doughecka | pfn: patches welcome |
| 02:09.59 | Raspul | ill work on it in a few more quarters after i take systems programming courses ;) |
| 02:10.06 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:10.18 | pfn | don't need no stinkin' systems programming sources |
| 02:10.22 | pfn | just need to know the board and kernel api |
| 02:10.33 | doughecka | bloody hell |
| 02:10.38 | doughecka | where did my counterstike icons go |
| 02:10.40 | pfn | s/sources/courses |
| 02:10.41 | Raspul | id think youd have to hack the kernel modules |
| 02:10.45 | doughecka | I had a neat little folder with it in there |
| 02:10.54 | pfn | indeed, the kernel api isn't *that* complex |
| 02:11.04 | libpcp | is there a free voip service that i can call a US cellular line starting from 904 ? |
| 02:11.12 | pfn | libpcp no |
| 02:11.17 | doughecka | pfn: about as complex as a spoon to a fish in the ocean |
| 02:11.24 | Raspul | im out, tennis time |
| 02:11.25 | Raspul | later guys |
| 02:11.27 | doughecka | no idea how it works, but it looks simple |
| 02:12.04 | atacomm | is it weird that the cease and desist i received wasn't certified mail? |
| 02:12.17 | pfn | dunno |
| 02:12.23 | pfn | you could ignore it and pretend you never got it ;-) |
| 02:12.28 | pfn | since it wasn't certified |
| 02:12.30 | jsharp | atacomm: Sounds like they're just trying to strong arm you. |
| 02:12.38 | doughecka | atacomm: can you say s.h.r.e.d.e.r.? |
| 02:12.43 | doughecka | atacomm: whos this? |
| 02:12.54 | doughecka | ah, thx |
| 02:13.01 | doughecka | at least you can still SAY it |
| 02:13.03 | atacomm | jsharp: I've written a 3-page response that points out why we are right |
| 02:13.09 | jsharp | Excellent. |
| 02:13.10 | doughecka | spelling nazi |
| 02:13.10 | atacomm | doug: @COMM is threatening us over our name |
| 02:13.18 | doughecka | ahahaha |
| 02:13.23 | doughecka | thats stupid |
| 02:13.26 | doughecka | I mean |
| 02:13.32 | doughecka | did they REGISTER the nic on freenode first? |
| 02:13.34 | doughecka | nope |
| 02:13.35 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:13.56 | atacomm | they have a trademark on @COMM, not Atcomm.... hell, someone else has a trademark on Atcom, so if we are infringing on @COMM, aren't they infringing on Atcom? |
| 02:14.11 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:14.21 | doughecka | what does @comm do? |
| 02:14.44 | atacomm | now, Atcom is a service mark, @COMM is a trademark... but for all intents and purposes, i beleive trademark law treats them the same |
| 02:15.04 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:15.15 | doughecka | blah |
| 02:15.21 | doughecka | who makes counterstrike? |
| 02:15.25 | atacomm | @Comm (www.atcomm.com) makes your hotel CDR reporting software used in major hotel chains.... they also filed for chapter 11 in 2001 after taking in 5 million in 2000 and spending 26 million |
| 02:15.29 | pfn | sierra |
| 02:15.45 | doughecka | atacomm: HAHAHA |
| 02:15.52 | doughecka | sounds like a last ditch move |
| 02:15.55 | doughecka | pfn: ah |
| 02:16.01 | jero | I fear to put 600 phones on an asterisk server, am i right ? |
| 02:16.12 | jsharp | The SCO school of business: Sue for income. |
| 02:16.13 | pfn | jero on a single server I'd be afraid |
| 02:16.14 | pfn | heh |
| 02:16.14 | atacomm | i know, but god, i dont know if i can handle two lawsuits at once now...... now i'm really stressed out |
| 02:16.24 | doughecka | atacomm: whats the other one |
| 02:16.30 | jero | pfn: on one SER this would be ok |
| 02:16.31 | pfn | sounds like you need to visit an oriental massage parlor |
| 02:16.32 | pfn | ahem |
| 02:16.56 | pfn | does ser ever carry the media itself? or does it always reinvite? |
| 02:17.04 | atacomm | doug: guy bought a snom phone system, couldnt get his tech to figure out how to set it up, after 6 months wanted to return..... he's suing for $7500 for the system, $2000 for the tech, and $40,000 for lost business due to dropped calls |
| 02:17.10 | doughecka | ooh, that one |
| 02:17.14 | doughecka | wheres he located? |
| 02:17.19 | doughecka | I could LART him for you |
| 02:17.20 | atacomm | Utah |
| 02:17.21 | doughecka | oh |
| 02:17.24 | jero | i dont know if ser can do media carrying or transcoding |
| 02:17.25 | doughecka | scratch that idea |
| 02:17.27 | jero | anyone knows ? |
| 02:17.42 | doughecka | atacomm: 40000 for lost calls? lol |
| 02:17.48 | jsharp | I don't believe SER can do transcoding. |
| 02:17.56 | jero | i dont either |
| 02:18.14 | doughecka | me niether! |
| 02:18.16 | jero | so it should at least be able to do pass-through |
| 02:18.17 | atacomm | doug: i know, they had an existing phone system that we had to keep disabling when testing their snom system to try to help them diagnose stuff.... so if it was hurting them that bad they would have used the old one |
| 02:18.33 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:18.34 | pfn | that would explain why it can handle so many users then |
| 02:18.54 | atacomm | man G726 is getting complicated, i've got about 70% of the codec done in hardware so far... |
| 02:19.01 | jero | 600 similar phones in my case |
| 02:19.03 | jero | cisco |
| 02:19.05 | doughecka | atacomm: ahrdware? |
| 02:19.08 | jero | i have to scale this |
| 02:19.16 | sivana | what's the insecure= tag used for? |
| 02:19.26 | pfn | 600phones, that's a nice install |
| 02:19.30 | jero | yes |
| 02:19.37 | atacomm | doug: working on a dsp chip to do G726, GSM, ULAW, ALAW, G729 and G723.... gate level logic, not a generic DSP running a tightly coded codec |
| 02:19.39 | pfn | sivana allow a registered user to call w/o re-authenticating |
| 02:19.49 | doughecka | atacomm: cool beans |
| 02:19.57 | sivana | insecure=very |
| 02:20.02 | sivana | should I have that? |
| 02:20.03 | pfn | jero aren't you clueless? ;-) |
| 02:20.07 | jsharp | atacomm: *blink* Uh, let me know when you finish that. |
| 02:20.08 | atacomm | unfortunately lawsuits are going to possibly slow us down on releasing our quad and octal T1 cards powered by it |
| 02:20.20 | doughecka | atacomm: makes oooohing noises |
| 02:20.23 | doughecka | er |
| 02:20.27 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:20.47 | atacomm | but we are hammering away, if anything manufacturing might get pushed back, but not cancelled..... the design is going very quickly |
| 02:20.53 | jero | pfn: clueless ? :) |
| 02:20.58 | jero | i have no clue |
| 02:21.01 | pfn | indeed :) |
| 02:21.14 | jero | what would you do ? |
| 02:21.16 | doughecka | atacomm: how about a standalone box that does iax and fxo/fxs/t1 stuff? :P |
| 02:21.21 | pfn | I dunno, I'm clueless, too |
| 02:21.40 | atacomm | doug: after our t1 cards, we will make standalone T1 boxes :) |
| 02:21.41 | jero | ser, multiple *, commercial pbx, ... |
| 02:21.59 | jero | those are 600 phone in about 10 buildings spread in a big city |
| 02:22.01 | doughecka | oh, question then |
| 02:22.18 | pfn | jero probably ser to talk to each other and asterisk to route out to pstn? *shrug* |
| 02:22.20 | doughecka | atacomm: our pbx can send 3 'c' dtmf tones when the remote side hangs up |
| 02:22.30 | doughecka | can asterisk detect that somehow? |
| 02:22.43 | jero | pfn: thats what i'm thinking about, but there are many questions i'm wondering :) |
| 02:22.44 | atacomm | *shrug* i dont know.....never tried that |
| 02:22.49 | *** join/#asterisk dcowgill (~daniel@vsat-148-63-96-120.c002.t7.mrt.starband.net) |
| 02:22.52 | pfn | jero and asterisk for voicemail, of course |
| 02:22.55 | jero | pfn : conferences, voice mail, management, etc |
| 02:22.59 | jsharp | I don't see why a big hairy multiprocessor box wouldn't be able to handle that many phones if you're not doing transcoding. |
| 02:23.00 | pfn | right |
| 02:23.16 | jero | jsharp: i wont be doing any transcoding |
| 02:23.25 | doughecka | atacomm: basically thats all thats holding me back to implementing a full remote phone system at work :) |
| 02:23.47 | jero | most phones support 3-way conferencing |
| 02:23.48 | pfn | so what's the 3 dtmf c do? |
| 02:24.19 | doughecka | pfn: well, my pbx doesnt support disconnect supervision |
| 02:24.38 | doughecka | so instead, I can configure it so it sends 3 c dtmf tones, which is how the voicemail box knows when to disconnect |
| 02:24.48 | pfn | indeed |
| 02:25.00 | doughecka | or else nothign would know that the other end has hung up, and would play busy tones to voicemail for a few days |
| 02:25.09 | pfn | what a crappy pbx |
| 02:25.18 | doughecka | most pbxes dont support it |
| 02:25.29 | doughecka | cept some REALLY new ones :) |
| 02:25.45 | pfn | doughecka although, you know, you can make asterisk hangup voicemail after x seconds of silence |
| 02:25.50 | doughecka | true |
| 02:25.57 | doughecka | but what if someone leaves at a menu |
| 02:26.00 | pfn | and I guess asterisk strips silence from the message anyway |
| 02:26.03 | doughecka | I would have to have the timeout thing |
| 02:26.15 | doughecka | but I would like to actully have it disconnect |
| 02:26.19 | jero | pfn: moreover every of the 600 phones will be able to access another one directly, no nat. |
| 02:26.38 | pfn | what am I still doing at work |
| 02:26.40 | doughecka | kram: twas quick |
| 02:26.45 | doughecka | pfn: haha |
| 02:28.31 | JohnJacob | anyone working on hardware decoders in VHDL? |
| 02:29.05 | doughecka | VHDL? |
| 02:29.18 | doughecka | voodoo hell donkey laughter? |
| 02:29.24 | atacomm | i am, in Verilog |
| 02:29.45 | jsharp | IAX in an FPGA. |
| 02:29.46 | JohnJacob | what chips are you using? |
| 02:29.51 | treke | anyone had luck with hooking up asterick to an option 11c? |
| 02:30.02 | atacomm | Spartan 3, 400-1000k gate |
| 02:30.04 | JohnJacob | iax would be cool |
| 02:30.16 | JohnJacob | is it going to be open or close? |
| 02:30.34 | jsharp | treke: connecting via T1 or analog lines? |
| 02:30.38 | JohnJacob | atacomm: how far along is it? |
| 02:30.50 | atacomm | it will be closed, its part of a quad/octal T1/E1 card design |
| 02:31.07 | atacomm | john: some codecs are complete, some are partial, some arent started :) |
| 02:31.27 | JohnJacob | :) isn't that how it always will be |
| 02:31.31 | treke | jsharp: Actually nothing specific at the moment. Just starting to look at asterisk and was wondering if it would be feasible to tie it in to an existing system. |
| 02:31.41 | JohnJacob | have your own PCI interface? |
| 02:31.46 | JohnJacob | PCIX? |
| 02:31.48 | jsharp | treke: Quite feasible. |
| 02:31.54 | doughecka | JohnJacob: no, ISA |
| 02:31.56 | jsharp | treke: Lots of people are doing it. |
| 02:31.56 | treke | cool. |
| 02:31.59 | atacomm | john: looking at either a OpenCores PCI core and a Xilinx PCI core |
| 02:32.00 | doughecka | but it will support plug and play |
| 02:32.02 | doughecka | j/k |
| 02:32.13 | jsharp | EISA. |
| 02:32.19 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:32.21 | atacomm | i still use VESA local bus |
| 02:32.26 | JohnJacob | Alteria has some stuff as well./ |
| 02:32.43 | jsharp | Q-BUS. I want a T1 card in my PDP-11. |
| 02:32.45 | Q-At-Home | I threw away my VLB machine last night |
| 02:32.49 | Q-At-Home | I cried |
| 02:32.54 | sivana | has anyone tied the MOH to an internet radio stream? |
| 02:32.55 | Q-At-Home | 486/100 |
| 02:32.58 | doughecka | VLB? |
| 02:32.59 | JohnJacob | jsharp: why eisa? |
| 02:33.06 | Q-At-Home | vesa local bus |
| 02:33.07 | doughecka | sivana: yes |
| 02:33.18 | sivana | doughecka: is it hard to do? |
| 02:33.20 | atacomm | i have a couple year old book on PCI and i was shocked to see it have a whole chapter on the differences between VESA LOCAL and PCI |
| 02:33.21 | doughecka | sivana: it was slightly buggy, but I think it did work, kinda |
| 02:33.26 | doughecka | its been months |
| 02:33.31 | doughecka | and I dont remember how I did it |
| 02:33.34 | sivana | doughecka: I assume you aren't doing it now? :) |
| 02:33.47 | JohnJacob | if I do another project, it is going to be PCI Xpress |
| 02:34.09 | doughecka | sivana: no, blew away my config one time |
| 02:34.21 | JohnJacob | jsharp: is your iax open or closed? |
| 02:34.30 | atacomm | John: I'd love to do PCI Xpress, but the Spartan 3 doesnt have Rocket IO transceivers... I'd have to step up to the Virtex Pro |
| 02:34.41 | jsharp | Neither. I was being a smartass. I'll just be quiet now. |
| 02:34.50 | JohnJacob | :) |
| 02:34.51 | doughecka | jajaja |
| 02:35.10 | JohnJacob | I see cost is the limiting factor. |
| 02:35.23 | JohnJacob | atacomm: What company is for? |
| 02:35.32 | doughecka | JohnJacob: atacomm.com |
| 02:35.33 | doughecka | :D |
| 02:36.07 | atacomm | its being developed by Atacomm, but won't be sold under the Atacomm name.... we want to keep our mfg as a seperate business.... in part because we wanted to head off lawsuits by manufacturers of similar names |
| 02:37.03 | JohnJacob | are you the main developer at atacomm? |
| 02:37.12 | doughecka | he IS atacomm, |
| 02:37.35 | JohnJacob | wow, doughecka knows everything about atacomm. |
| 02:37.38 | atacomm | lol, i am the fpga developer.....we've got an EE we are hiring |
| 02:37.49 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:37.51 | doughecka | his name is |
| 02:38.02 | atacomm | lol, its not mark... |
| 02:38.06 | doughecka | its ME |
| 02:38.07 | doughecka | er |
| 02:38.07 | doughecka | no |
| 02:38.30 | JohnJacob | Ever thing about licensing your IP? |
| 02:38.37 | JohnJacob | woops. think |
| 02:38.40 | atacomm | *shrug* lol |
| 02:38.44 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:38.48 | doughecka | I have lots of IP |
| 02:38.49 | doughecka | addresses |
| 02:38.53 | atacomm | my IP infringes on a lot of patents right now |
| 02:38.53 | doughecka | whole subnets |
| 02:39.01 | wsuff | haha |
| 02:39.17 | doughecka | hah, made wsuff laugh |
| 02:39.31 | JohnJacob | really? what like patents for codec use etc? |
| 02:39.43 | atacomm | yup, G729, G723 |
| 02:39.57 | jero | what is fpga ? |
| 02:40.04 | JohnJacob | you'll have that, shitty. oh well. |
| 02:40.12 | JohnJacob | Field programmable gate array |
| 02:40.32 | doughecka | floating pig gas and afluence |
| 02:40.32 | JohnJacob | basically a block of programmable logic elements connected with softwre. |
| 02:40.58 | JohnJacob | why'd you choose verilog? |
| 02:41.12 | atacomm | familiar with C, like the language better |
| 02:41.17 | JohnJacob | I can leave you alone anytime if I'm bother you. |
| 02:41.29 | doughecka | JohnJacob: yea, your bothering me RIGHT now |
| 02:41.31 | doughecka | j/k |
| 02:41.31 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:41.42 | wsuff | doughecka: also 1 smartass =) |
| 02:41.49 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:41.53 | JohnJacob | so it is mostly procedural stuff |
| 02:42.38 | bkw_ | atacomm alot of g723 expires this sept |
| 02:42.43 | bkw_ | as does large parts of g729 |
| 02:42.49 | bkw_ | but not the newer key crap thats still in use |
| 02:42.51 | doughecka | bkw_: sshh :P |
| 02:42.56 | atacomm | really? aww, that sucks |
| 02:43.03 | doughecka | I Was gonna sell atacomm some licenses |
| 02:43.11 | atacomm | what about G726, are some patents still in force on non-32kbps? |
| 02:43.18 | bkw_ | well not really |
| 02:43.26 | bkw_ | we jus thave no way to tell what we are using or what to send |
| 02:43.33 | atacomm | hmm, lucent claims there is, LOL |
| 02:43.38 | bkw_ | no |
| 02:43.40 | bkw_ | read the patent |
| 02:43.43 | JohnJacob | so are you working on cards mostly? what about sip phones? |
| 02:43.50 | bkw_ | its the changing of the rate during a call |
| 02:43.56 | atacomm | no phones at the moment, we'd like to venture there |
| 02:43.56 | doughecka | yea: thats what I want |
| 02:43.57 | bkw_ | which asterisk doesn't support |
| 02:43.58 | doughecka | a T1 phone |
| 02:44.06 | doughecka | 24 line T1 phone! |
| 02:44.10 | atacomm | bkw: Ahhh, ok..... why doesn't asterisk do other rates? |
| 02:44.23 | bkw_ | atacomm we have ZERO way to tell them apart |
| 02:44.30 | bkw_ | plus it would eat up the rest of the codec space |
| 02:44.45 | bkw_ | 16k, 24, and 48 k are all thats left to do |
| 02:45.01 | atacomm | bkw: how cant you tell them apart, they've got to have different codec identifiers as part of their RTP identifier, dont they? |
| 02:45.03 | bkw_ | its not pretty |
| 02:45.12 | bkw_ | atacomm accually no |
| 02:45.20 | bkw_ | they use dynamic numbers |
| 02:45.27 | bkw_ | so their is no standard on what they are :P |
| 02:45.35 | bkw_ | but yes we could use it |
| 02:45.44 | atacomm | actually, the 16k and 24k and 48K are easy, i've done them all.... they are all the same, just use a different table |
| 02:45.51 | bkw_ | bug we would have g726-16, g726-24, g726-32 and g726-40 |
| 02:45.52 | DrRighteous | bkw: Can I have that fix for the missing phone # on cisco 7960 callerid again? |
| 02:46.15 | bkw_ | oh i have no clue why you're not getting callerid |
| 02:46.20 | bkw_ | it should work on inbound |
| 02:46.23 | bkw_ | to the phone |
| 02:46.43 | bkw_ | atacomm what did you change about g726 to make it 16,24 and 48? |
| 02:47.38 | atacomm | bkw: I didn't do it in asterisk, I did it in my hardware codec.... its basically a different lookup table based on which bit-rate you are using.... and then the size of the sample output is either 2,3,4, or 5 bits accordingly.... |
| 02:48.19 | bkw_ | yes but I wonder what we would have to change in the codec to support lower rates |
| 02:48.20 | atacomm | so as long as you know what rate the call is running at, its easy to do......now if its like you say, and SIP/RTP doesn't negotiate the rate, only the codec, then its an issue of how to detect |
| 02:48.35 | bkw_ | no rtp can |
| 02:48.37 | atacomm | bkw_: very little, i could change the asterisk codec in a matter of a weekend really |
| 02:48.47 | bkw_ | but they use non-standard numbers |
| 02:49.11 | atacomm | nope.... the G.726 reference i got from the ITU states specific code words for each sample rate |
| 02:49.47 | bkw_ | http://www.zvon.org/tmRFC/RFC3551/Output/chapter6.html |
| 02:49.54 | bkw_ | http://www.zvon.org/tmRFC/RFC3551/Output/chapter6.html |
| 02:49.56 | bkw_ | doh |
| 02:50.02 | doughecka | http://www.zvon.org/tmRFC/RFC3551/Output/chapter6.html |
| 02:50.09 | bkw_ | dont think mark used refcode to build it |
| 02:50.12 | doughecka | just incase both of bkw_'s dodnt make it |
| 02:50.17 | jero | lol |
| 02:50.17 | bkw_ | doughecka stop repeating :P |
| 02:50.26 | atacomm | LOL |
| 02:50.26 | doughecka | stop repeating |
| 02:50.34 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:51.23 | sivana | how do you transfer with an analog phone with no xfer button? |
| 02:51.31 | doughecka | pound |
| 02:51.33 | doughecka | or flash |
| 02:51.44 | doughecka | flash should work the best |
| 02:51.48 | sivana | #, extension, hangup? |
| 02:51.56 | jero | most phones have an ldap client embedded to lookup phone users and their numbers. How about having just one ldap server for the global directory and storing asterisk's phone accounts ?` |
| 02:51.57 | bkw_ | it has comments in the code |
| 02:51.57 | doughecka | pound needs to be enabled for that dialplan |
| 02:52.13 | sivana | it has flash |
| 02:52.18 | sivana | flash, ext, hangup? |
| 02:52.22 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:52.29 | sivana | k |
| 02:52.30 | sivana | thanks |
| 02:52.37 | doughecka | flash, it will do a dail tone |
| 02:52.41 | doughecka | dial the extention |
| 02:52.58 | bkw_ | took me 2 min |
| 02:52.59 | bkw_ | update(4, y, _witab[i] << 5, _fitab[i], dq, sr, dqsez, state_ptr); |
| 02:53.07 | bkw_ | 2, 3, 4 or 5 |
| 02:53.08 | doughecka | then I believe you either hit flash again to conference, and then maybe flash to transfer... I havent played with it much |
| 02:53.10 | bkw_ | thats the code size |
| 02:53.32 | atacomm | bkw: right, but you also have to use a different code word dictionary :) |
| 02:54.02 | atacomm | however * was coded to let you pass different tables of code word values to it |
| 02:54.38 | sivana | ya.. that works.. cool |
| 02:55.07 | bkw_ | ok |
| 02:55.12 | bkw_ | no |
| 02:55.17 | bkw_ | you don't the code has it |
| 02:55.20 | jsharp | I'm waywayway behind in */database interaction. Is there an easy way to pull extensions out of a database? |
| 02:55.24 | bkw_ | its been hard coded to 4 bytes |
| 02:56.27 | atacomm | ah, using if/then statements? he should have done it as a list, with each entry having the cutoff number, and the output result.. less code, and then you just have to pass the table |
| 03:03.06 | jsharp | hrm |
| 03:03.26 | jero | ... |
| 03:03.34 | jero | how about ldap ? :) |
| 03:07.24 | bkw_ | atacomm you can rip off what you need from the sox cvs |
| 03:07.29 | bkw_ | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/sox/sox/g723_16.c?rev=1.1&view=markup |
| 03:08.50 | atacomm | I already have the ITU recommendation booklet and the ITU example source :) |
| 03:10.03 | bkw_ | why do that when I have what you need there :P |
| 03:10.29 | bkw_ | g723-16,24 and 40 + g721 32 = G726 |
| 03:11.23 | atacomm | is G723-16 really the same as G726-16? |
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| 03:14.09 | *** join/#asterisk surfer22nz (~surfer22n@219-89-81-105.adsl.xtra.co.nz) |
| 03:14.25 | surfer22nz | Hi guys |
| 03:14.33 | surfer22nz | hey pfn |
| 03:15.50 | surfer22nz | hey twisted... |
| 03:16.05 | mogorman | hi surfer |
| 03:16.24 | surfer22nz | hey mogorman... :) how are you? |
| 03:16.35 | mogorman | good and you |
| 03:16.50 | surfer22nz | ok, not to bad... still trying to get asterisk uo and running... |
| 03:17.07 | mogorman | whats your problem |
| 03:17.14 | surfer22nz | after talking to pfn and twisted... got a lil ahead |
| 03:17.29 | surfer22nz | trying to get the X100P running with asterisk |
| 03:17.43 | surfer22nz | it's not picking up my incoming calls |
| 03:17.48 | *** join/#asterisk Bentley1 (~Bentley@dsl-mtryl-209-5-169-44-cgy.nucleus.com) |
| 03:18.11 | surfer22nz | *CLI> zap show channels / pseudo incoming en default channel => |
| 03:18.39 | surfer22nz | does that look about right? |
| 03:18.48 | mogorman | well seems correct |
| 03:18.58 | mogorman | lets get everything running first though |
| 03:19.02 | sivana | I have pseudo and 1 |
| 03:19.04 | sivana | for 1 line |
| 03:19.12 | mogorman | you got zaptel built |
| 03:19.19 | mogorman | do you have libpri |
| 03:19.26 | mogorman | and asterisk |
| 03:19.39 | surfer22nz | i thought libpri was for BRI / PRI cards |
| 03:19.46 | surfer22nz | TDM cards |
| 03:20.04 | mogorman | yeah |
| 03:20.05 | mogorman | it is |
| 03:20.09 | mogorman | i just didnt know your full setup |
| 03:20.37 | mogorman | but have you gotten asterisk compiled |
| 03:20.54 | jero | surfer22nz: are you in new zealand ? |
| 03:20.55 | surfer22nz | i am running... X100P <--> Debian using CVS to compile |
| 03:21.07 | sivana | did you do the modprobe? |
| 03:21.10 | mogorman | okay |
| 03:21.14 | mogorman | which version of debian |
| 03:21.17 | surfer22nz | jero: yes i am how about you? |
| 03:21.22 | mogorman | and kernel stock or custom |
| 03:21.26 | jero | i'm in quebec |
| 03:21.37 | surfer22nz | mogorman: I am running 3.0r2 |
| 03:21.46 | surfer22nz | 2.4.26 kernel |
| 03:21.49 | Bentley1 | hey all, what does debug "Got a FRAME_CONTROL (4) frame on channel ..." indicate? |
| 03:21.55 | Bentley1 | (seen after a SIP phone answered a zap channel) |
| 03:22.03 | jero | surfer22nz: are we linked through fiber or satellite ? |
| 03:22.17 | surfer22nz | kewl jero... :) i always wanted to check that place out ;) |
| 03:22.32 | mogorman | nifty |
| 03:22.40 | surfer22nz | mogorman: custom kernel |
| 03:22.46 | jero | surfer22nz: I guess NZ is a nice place too |
| 03:23.01 | mogorman | okay so you have zap module loaded |
| 03:23.10 | surfer22nz | jero: NZ is beautiful, kinda like a paradise :) |
| 03:23.32 | surfer22nz | mogorman: yes i believe i do... but when i ring the number nothing comes up |
| 03:24.44 | mogorman | right |
| 03:24.44 | mogorman | we getting there |
| 03:24.44 | mogorman | i hope |
| 03:24.44 | surfer22nz | mogorman: when i use "zap show channel 1" it unables to fine it |
| 03:24.44 | *** join/#asterisk doughecka (~rooot@doughecka.registered) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:24.44 | mogorman | but do you have asterisk compiled |
| 03:24.44 | *** join/#asterisk JerJer (~mine@d10-18.rt-bras.che.centurytel.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:25.12 | surfer22nz | mogorman: yes i do, it's working on SIP phones and voicemail nicely... calles to and from pstn is causing problems |
| 03:25.12 | scud | yo yo |
| 03:25.29 | mogorman | okay |
| 03:25.32 | mogorman | thats great |
| 03:25.36 | mogorman | we are getting there |
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| 03:25.43 | mogorman | do you have conf file setup? |
| 03:25.45 | mogorman | for channels |
| 03:25.47 | surfer22nz | *CLI> zap show channel 1 |
| 03:25.47 | surfer22nz | Unable to find given channel 1 |
| 03:26.02 | surfer22nz | yes i do |
| 03:26.06 | jsharp | Bleh. I'm so behind on bleeding edge of Asterisk. I gotta catch up on all of this before astricon. |
| 03:26.27 | sivana | did you configure zapata.conf? |
| 03:26.28 | mogorman | can you paste it |
| 03:26.31 | mogorman | or let me see it |
| 03:26.31 | surfer22nz | it's fustrating... you are so close yet so far |
| 03:26.34 | mogorman | via ssh |
| 03:26.42 | *** join/#asterisk asher (~asher@62.121.2.101) |
| 03:26.45 | mogorman | so close yet so far? |
| 03:26.48 | surfer22nz | you can login to my system if you like :) |
| 03:26.52 | *** join/#asterisk Moc (~Moc@modemcable161.105-70-69.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 03:27.01 | mogorman | okay |
| 03:27.05 | Moc | oh yea, SUSE Server 9 is out ;) |
| 03:27.07 | mogorman | info please |
| 03:27.38 | jero | moc: yeah, ibm was debugging it some week ago |
| 03:28.31 | letherglov | hey, anyone have any experience with call progress detection? |
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| 03:30.09 | Moc | can't wait to try it out... I hope it good .. |
| 03:30.15 | jero | :) |
| 03:30.42 | Moc | hehe |
| 03:30.46 | pfn | ? |