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`00:01.24`	`*** part/#asterisk aejlum (voiptest@zz197059.cipherkey.net)`
`00:01.39`	`*** join/#asterisk terchris (~karbidjav@80.203.77.207)`
`00:01.57`	`JohnJacob`	`my soundcard works... and I hear everything, but I can't seem to get my mic to work`
`00:02.28`	`JohnJacob`	`in fact, my mic constantly loops to my speakers`
`00:02.50`	`pfn`	`so fix it :p`
`00:02.51`	`daork`	`figfig: sorry i took so long, had a customer come visit to install stuff into colo.. the thing i was trying to remember was SGI's FAM`
`00:02.54`	`SorenR`	`pfn: at least the 500 mile story had a solution, we never found the cause of our problem. We even had the floor/walls/ceiling checked for electrical radiation and stuff - nothing... We put down the reason "Gremlins" in our report..`
`00:02.56`	`Himeko`	`mute the mic`
`00:03.03`	`Grant_A`	`If you're using asterisk and lphone`
`00:03.07`	`pfn`	`sorenr that can't be acceptable :p`
`00:03.13`	`Grant_A`	`If you're using asterisk and kphone, are they supposed to be in the same shell window?`
`00:03.13`	`JohnJacob`	`how do i mute :)`
`00:03.15`	`daork`	`FAM notifies an app of changes to files in a file system, and the app can then replicate the changes over NFS/whatever`
`00:03.40`	`Grant_A`	`Weirdly when I closed the asterisk window the audio started workin as if THAT was what was using the resource kphone needed (being run out of a second shell prompt)`
`00:03.54`	`terchris`	`I want to connect a GSM gateway http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Siemens+M20`
`00:03.55`	`Himeko`	`that would depend on what os pretty much i gues`
`00:03.56`	`Himeko`	`s`
`00:03.57`	`*** join/#asterisk digilord (~digilord@wsip-68-98-214-246.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`00:04.11`	`terchris`	`how do I write a chanel driver ?`
`00:04.13`	`daork`	`figfig: it looks like a pretty nice solution for mail or voicemail replication, as you have one file per message, and the messages dont change on disk`
`00:04.28`	`SorenR`	`pfn: we replaced PC, 3270 card, cables, everything but the desk and room...`
`00:05.13`	`*** part/#asterisk digilord (~digilord@wsip-68-98-214-246.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`00:05.27`	`Grant_A`	`Is it possible to run Asterisk and Kphone from the same shellprompt`
`00:05.28`	`pfn`	`sorenr how bizarre, heh`
`00:05.39`	`*** join/#asterisk JunK-Y (~junky@modemcable152.25-203-24.mc.videotron.ca)`
`00:05.45`	`JunK-Y`	`hi here.`
`00:06.16`	`*** part/#asterisk sipper (~andy@4.43.0.10)`
`00:06.23`	`SorenR`	`pfn: Yep.. I firmly believe it was Gremlins.. :-)`
`00:06.37`	`JohnJacob`	`I have a system that registers with me with IAX2. I can make calls to them. But when I try to make calls from them to me. It rejects them. Any ideas?`
`00:07.04`	`JohnJacob`	`I can't register with them because they are behind a firewall.`
`00:07.18`	`JohnJacob`	`Is there anyway to register when someone when they connect to you?`
`00:07.38`	`pfn`	`johnjacob no`
`00:07.46`	`pfn`	`the registrar must be openly accessible`
`00:07.55`	`pfn`	`else you don't do register`
`00:08.19`	`JohnJacob`	`ok but then I don't need to do a register right? cause they show as a peer in my system?`
`00:08.50`	`SorenR`	`Bedtime....`
`00:08.52`	`pfn`	`you only need to register if you're on a dynamic IP`
`00:08.59`	`JohnJacob`	`I have defined them as a friend.`
`00:09.05`	`JohnJacob`	`I see.`
`00:09.22`	`JohnJacob`	`Why would I be getting auth rejects?`
`00:09.40`	`drumkilla`	`which direction?`
`00:09.51`	`JohnJacob`	`from them to me.`
`00:09.58`	`JohnJacob`	`they register with me.`
`00:10.02`	`JohnJacob`	`I can dial out to them`
`00:10.07`	`JohnJacob`	`they can't dial to me`
`00:10.28`	`drumkilla`	`do you have host=dynamic in the config?`
`00:10.36`	`JohnJacob`	`yes`
`00:10.55`	`drumkilla`	`maybe their end isn't configured correctly`
`00:11.14`	`drumkilla`	`oh wait`
`00:11.16`	`JohnJacob`	`well, I'm ssh'd in both configs. :) It is me.`
`00:11.19`	`drumkilla`	`what do you have type set to`
`00:11.25`	`JohnJacob`	`friend`
`00:11.29`	`drumkilla`	`ok ...`
`00:12.21`	`JohnJacob`	`is dynamic ok?`
`00:12.23`	`drumkilla`	`yes`
`00:12.31`	`drumkilla`	`what is the error you get? copy it`
`00:14.24`	`JohnJacob`	`On calling side: Call rejected by IP: No authority found.`
`00:15.06`	`figfig`	`daork: I am looking up sig's fam. Thanks`
`00:15.10`	`*** join/#asterisk jr99 (trilluser@adsl-065-005-202-014.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net)`
`00:15.25`	`JohnJacob`	`on recieving side: Rejected connect attempt from IP.`
`00:15.30`	`pfn`	`SIP? fromuser must be set to the value in [ ] in your sip.conf`
`00:15.32`	`daork`	`figfig: its not a solution in itself, you still need replication app`
`00:15.35`	`JohnJacob`	`BUT.`
`00:15.42`	`pfn`	`fromuser and username`
`00:15.48`	`daork`	`i've seen a few different ones around though, so it shouldnt be hard to find`
`00:16.09`	`JohnJacob`	`if I do a iax2 show peers, there is a username from that ip`
`00:16.25`	`pfn`	`that shows your configuration`
`00:16.27`	`pfn`	`and you call peers`
`00:16.30`	`pfn`	`peers don't call you`
`00:16.53`	`JohnJacob`	`what do I need to make it if I want to call them?`
`00:17.06`	`drumkilla`	`friend if you want to do both`
`00:17.17`	`JohnJacob`	`ya, that is what it is though`
`00:21.33`	`*** join/#asterisk zane2 (~S@69-165-66-251.sbtnvt.adelphia.net)`
`00:21.55`	`zane2`	`hey does anyone know any good iax termination providers besides nufone that offer 1800 numbers?`
`00:22.55`	`pfn`	`nufone's all I know of....`
`00:23.15`	`*** join/#asterisk chuji (~b@68.52.145.41)`
`00:23.32`	`*** join/#asterisk fry77 (~fry@201.129.240.32)`
`00:23.35`	`zane2`	`dang`
`00:24.01`	`zane2`	`how long does it take for them to set up an account? because i see that its not automated yet`
`00:24.05`	`*** join/#asterisk [1]JohnJacob (~JohnJacob@the.med-web.com)`
`00:28.48`	`[1]JohnJacob`	`hah, got it!`
`00:29.07`	`[1]JohnJacob`	`I had an incorrect context in the context field of iax.conf`
`00:31.49`	`Bentley1`	`hey all. Something odd is happening with today's zaptel cvs. When I modprobe wcfxs, i see msg "405091 Polarity reversed (0 -> -1)"`
`00:32.06`	`zane2`	`hey do u need to have some kind of ata for broadvoice or can i get the unlimited in state plan and set that up with my asterisk box?`
`00:32.24`	`Bentley1`	`and rings aren;t detected properly. I move back to a zaptel from 1 month ago and all is good`
`00:33.58`	`pfn`	`zane2 the latter`
`00:34.21`	`zane2`	`awesome`
`00:34.45`	`zane2`	`its just that i saw that they wanted you to type in a mac address of an ata when you go to sign up`
`00:35.15`	`dant`	`Bentley1, polarity reversal us good`
`00:35.20`	`dant`	`us=is`
`00:35.41`	`Bentley1`	`ok`
`00:35.55`	`Bentley1`	`but something is still wrong with zaptel`
`00:36.13`	`Bentley1`	`it doesn't detect rings ... old zaptel works fine tho`
`00:36.52`	`dant`	`Bentley1, odd, I'm sure it's working OK here`
`00:37.14`	`dant`	`Bentley1, when this poor old machine finishes compiling I'll know for sure...`
`00:39.02`	`Bentley1`	`dant, thx. to duplicate, call from pstn and make sure that * Answers the call. Then make pstn side hangup and wait till * reports that the zap channel is hung up. At this point (for me) it is in a state where the next incoming ring won't be detected`
`00:39.21`	`*** join/#asterisk wgordon (~wgordon@ga-cmng-cuda1-c3d-185.atlaga.adelphia.net)`
`00:39.31`	`dant`	`Bentley1, ok... I'll give it a go`
`00:41.31`	`mutilator`	`http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=582&e=2&u=/nm/20040804/wr_nm/telecoms_wiretap_dc`
`00:42.37`	`pfn`	`fuck, why does my left hand hurt so much :(`
`00:42.45`	`jr99`	`hummmm...`
`00:42.49`	`jr99`	`nevermind..`
`00:44.15`	`h3x`	`who has pbx_spool skillz`
`00:46.12`	`Bentley1`	`dant - i see that markster commited a bug fix to wcfxs 30 hours ago. I bet that's it.`
`00:46.43`	`JohnJacob`	`I have a zaptel card in and my asterisk doesn't think I have a timer, is there something speical I have to do?`
`00:47.02`	`JohnJacob`	`Unable to support trunking on peer 'mie' without zaptel timing`
`00:47.13`	`zane2`	`modprobe zaptel?`
`00:47.33`	`zane2`	`did u do lsmod to make sure the zaptel device is showing up?`
`00:48.00`	`JohnJacob`	`ya did that, the system answers and works`
`00:48.08`	`sivana`	`I can't seem to figure this out.. I have the right polarity on the line`
`00:48.10`	`sivana`	`Aug 4 20:41:51 NOTICE[123440048]: callerid.c:239 callerid_feed: Caller*ID failed checksum`
`00:48.43`	`sivana`	`any ideas anyone?`
`00:50.21`	`pfn`	`no callerid for you`
`00:50.21`	`pfn`	`:p`
`00:50.27`	`zane2`	`does anyone here have colocated asterisk boxes?`
`00:52.58`	`pfn`	`what does that matter?`
`00:53.40`	`zane2`	`well my friend has a box thats collated for $80 a month and i was thinking of trying to get one but itd have to be cheaper than that`
`00:53.44`	`zane2`	`something with good bandwidth`
`00:53.52`	`zane2`	`not my 386k up dsl`
`00:54.10`	`sivana`	`I guess the X100P just doesn't work with caller id`
`00:54.37`	`pfn`	`$80/mo for colocation is cheap`
`00:54.58`	`Himeko`	`is it a real x100p from digium`
`00:55.03`	`sivana`	`ya`
`00:55.21`	`sivana`	`I think it shows up as X101P`
`00:55.44`	`pfn`	`but is it a "real" digium?`
`00:56.04`	`Himeko`	`i have heard of probs with cid some of the other cards that work but are not exactly the same card`
`00:56.05`	`sivana`	`yes.. shipped directly from them`
`00:56.50`	`sivana`	`I played with the rxgain a bit with no luck`
`00:57.00`	`sivana`	`as suggested by twisted/jerjer`
`00:57.01`	`pfn`	`neat`
`00:57.06`	`pfn`	`:p`
`00:57.13`	`sivana`	`I thought you were the guru :)`
`00:57.27`	`pfn`	`never said I was`
`00:57.35`	`jr99`	`anyone know a SIP sniffer? want to look at SIP packets from a packet8 phone.. and tcpdump ain't doing what I want.`
`00:57.40`	`sivana`	`I know.. just kidding`
`00:57.43`	`pfn`	`jr99 ethereal`
`00:57.50`	`jr99`	`ok`
`00:57.52`	`jr99`	`headless?`
`00:57.56`	`jr99`	`text only?`
`00:57.57`	`pfn`	`tethereal then`
`00:57.59`	`jr99`	`ok`
`00:58.10`	`pfn`	`and if you want to sniff so that you can get the password.... heh, good luck :p`
`00:58.44`	`*** join/#asterisk Moc_ (~mochouina@modemcable161.105-70-69.mc.videotron.ca)`
`00:58.45`	`dant`	`or tcpdump -> file -> ethereal`
`00:58.48`	`JohnJacob`	`is there any way to take an fxo card. plug a phone it in, and use it as an extension?`
`00:59.05`	`pfn`	`johnjacob no`
`00:59.09`	`JohnJacob`	`has to be an fxs huh :(`
`00:59.12`	`pfn`	`yes`
`00:59.23`	`pfn`	`fxo doesn't generate a ringtone`
`00:59.45`	`pfn`	`or dialtone`
`00:59.54`	`zane2`	`is there a way u can recreate iax phone calls?`
`00:59.55`	`JohnJacob`	`well what if I just want to pick up the phone and go right into the s, extension?`
`01:00.09`	`Bentley1`	`dant, any luck? if u can dup, I'll file`
`01:00.12`	`pfn`	`johnjacob no`
`01:00.15`	`JohnJacob`	`no ringtone or dial tone`
`01:00.21`	`zane2`	`with say ethereal`
`01:00.22`	`pfn`	`johnjacob fxo does not generate any power on the line`
`01:00.28`	`jr99`	`pfn: am I wasting my time?`
`01:00.32`	`sivana`	`anyone have a clid tester?`
`01:00.40`	`pfn`	`jr99 is that what you're trying to do? yes, you're wasting your time`
`01:00.41`	`epoch`	`that sounds dirty`
`01:00.50`	`jr99`	`can't do * -> packet8`
`01:01.10`	`sivana`	`heh`
`01:01.16`	`JohnJacob`	`anyone going to the asterisk developer day at the conference?`
`01:01.38`	`jr99`	`it's SIP though..`
`01:01.51`	`pfn`	`without knowing the password you can't do anything`
`01:01.59`	`pfn`	`and you can't get the password by sniffing`
`01:02.05`	`jr99`	`right, but the password is in the SIP packet isn't it?`
`01:02.09`	`pfn`	`never`
`01:02.30`	`jr99`	`humm.. so hows it work then?`
`01:02.49`	`jr99`	`some other exchange? which then allows the SIP register?`
`01:02.58`	`pfn`	`it goes auth request (with one-time-string) -> respond auth (password hashed against realm/user + one-time-string)`
`01:03.17`	`jr99`	`yea, ok.. I figured it would have to be harder then that.`
`01:03.25`	`jr99`	`that = just the password.`
`01:03.30`	`pfn`	`hash1 = md5(user:realm:secret)`
`01:03.30`	`pfn`	`hash2 = md5(SIP_MSG:uri)`
`01:03.30`	`pfn`	`hash3 = md5(hash1:nonce:hash2)`
`01:03.33`	`pfn`	`it goes like that`
`01:03.49`	`pfn`	`one the client side, it responds with hash3 to the peer`
`01:04.09`	`jr99`	`and hash1 packet8 -> client`
`01:04.14`	`*** join/#asterisk wgordon (~wgordon@ga-cmng-cuda1-c3d-185.atlaga.adelphia.net)`
`01:04.22`	`pfn`	`no, packet 8 doesn't send a hash, it only sends the nonce`
`01:04.44`	`zane2`	`Are Grandstream phones SIP only? No IAX support???...`
`01:04.49`	`pfn`	`yes`
`01:04.49`	`jr99`	`right... ok.. I'll just give up now then..`
`01:05.06`	`pfn`	`yes, it's basically impossible to hack out the password`
`01:05.32`	`zane2`	`ah wtf. are there any cheap fones that are iax and sip?`
`01:05.37`	`jr99`	`whats in it for them to now allow just a SIP phone?`
`01:05.54`	`pfn`	`jr99 much tighter access control`
`01:05.58`	`pfn`	`zane2 there are no iax hard phones`
`01:06.11`	`zane2`	`damn`
`01:06.24`	`pfn`	`jr99 much easier to manage`
`01:06.32`	`jr99`	`yea, less support, blah, blah ,blah .`
`01:06.41`	`zane2`	`i should just get a sipura then`
`01:06.50`	`pfn`	`well, you could get an iaxy....`
`01:08.03`	`zane2`	`well iaxy's are iax only right`
`01:08.24`	`jr99`	`so, who is a good VOIP provider, no DID which supports just plain SIP or IAX?`
`01:08.43`	`pfn`	`well, there's nufone.....`
`01:08.48`	`zane2`	`voicepulse`
`01:08.54`	`zane2`	`either or.`
`01:09.05`	`jr99`	`both good, bad, horrible?`
`01:09.11`	`zane2`	`good`
`01:09.11`	`cp5`	`fonality`
`01:09.20`	`zane2`	`voicepulse has faster setup i believe`
`01:09.21`	`cp5`	`supports sip, is pretty good`
`01:09.35`	`zane2`	`nufone takes a few days to setup your account i hear`
`01:09.48`	`cp5`	`fonality set mine up the same day`
`01:10.10`	`cp5`	`i had to ask them for sip info though`
`01:10.16`	`jr99`	`kind sucks I have DSL so I can't drop the phone line..`
`01:10.18`	`cp5`	`got it all the same day though`
`01:10.29`	`cp5`	`jr99, does your provider support naked dsl?`
`01:10.39`	`jr99`	`bellsouth?`
`01:10.45`	`cp5`	`askt hem`
`01:10.51`	`jr99`	`ok, didn't think it was possible.`
`01:10.54`	`cp5`	`yup`
`01:11.04`	`cp5`	`i'm using naked dsl with speakeasy over here in cali`
`01:11.40`	`cp5`	`no phone line, just dsl and an asterisk box hooked up to fonality, and an ata on the lan`
`01:12.06`	`*** join/#asterisk JunK-Y (~junky@modemcable152.25-203-24.mc.videotron.ca)`
`01:15.29`	`jr99`	`voicepulse makes me enter serialnumber and MAC for a Sipura SPA-2000`
`01:15.46`	`pfn`	`no`
`01:15.48`	`pfn`	`connect.voicepulse.com`
`01:16.04`	`jr99`	`ahh.. ok`
`01:17.19`	`PatrickDK`	`hmm, verizon has some fucked up dsl service`
`01:17.22`	`jr99`	`just prepaid I guess with voiceplus..`
`01:17.26`	`PatrickDK`	`have a 192.168.1.43 ip address`
`01:17.32`	`PatrickDK`	`jr99, yep`
`01:17.54`	`pfn`	`ooooh, fonality has 510 numbers`
`01:18.00`	`pfn`	`I think I'm gonna drop broadvoice`
`01:18.02`	`pfn`	`those fuckers`
`01:18.02`	`*** join/#asterisk phsdshft (foobar@h00080e299383.ne.client2.attbi.com)`
`01:18.04`	`jr99`	`PatrickDK: I know my bellsouth DSL "modem" is really a router and without putting it in bridge mode it will NAT.`
`01:18.30`	`PatrickDK`	`hmm, ya, I tried to reconfig the modem`
`01:18.39`	`PatrickDK`	`but it wanted some user/pass that I didn't ave`
`01:18.45`	`PatrickDK`	`and the normal default wheren't working`
`01:18.46`	`pfn`	`cp5 you liking fonality?`
`01:18.52`	`jr99`	`dslreports doesn't have info?`
`01:19.04`	`cp5`	`pfn, yeah, pretty good so far`
`01:19.11`	`PatrickDK`	`at that point, I didn't have inet connection to check dsl reports :)`
`01:19.20`	`PatrickDK`	`I just set it up on parents house an hour ago`
`01:19.29`	`cp5`	`i just told em not to send an ata and not charge me for shipping and just give me sip info`
`01:19.33`	`PatrickDK`	`it's working, so I left it as is :)`
`01:19.42`	`zane2`	`Do these Sipura-2000 devices have IAX support???`
`01:19.55`	`pfn`	`cp5 do they charge activation`
`01:20.03`	`cp5`	`pfn, yeah, 30 activation`
`01:20.08`	`pfn`	`$30??? ugh`
`01:20.14`	`cp5`	`i think they'll drop it if you tell them you don't want an ata`
`01:20.14`	`pfn`	`gyp gyp gyp`
`01:20.21`	`cp5`	`i've had them drop charges just by asking them`
`01:21.00`	`jr99`	`maybe i'll order up some fonality when I get the card..`
`01:21.09`	`pfn`	`cp5 what codecs does fonality support?`
`01:21.13`	`pfn`	`the card?`
`01:21.31`	`cp5`	`not sure, i've just been using g711`
`01:21.41`	`jr99`	`"the card"`
`01:21.56`	`cp5`	`pfn, the card`
`01:21.58`	`jr99`	`4 port digium card.`
`01:22.00`	`cp5`	`THE card`
`01:22.07`	`jr99`	`3 FXS and 1 FXO..`
`01:22.16`	`bkw_`	`jr99 did ya get it?`
`01:22.23`	`jr99`	`no.. tomorrow.. it's enroute.`
`01:22.23`	`jr99`	`:-P`
`01:22.28`	`bkw_`	`kewl`
`01:22.32`	`jr99`	`didn't get digitnetworks yet either.`
`01:22.36`	`bkw_`	`bummer`
`01:22.43`	`*** join/#asterisk brc_ (Brian@ip24-251-180-220.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`01:23.10`	`zane2`	`did anyone go to defcon last weekend?`
`01:23.15`	`cp5`	`yeah`
`01:23.31`	`zane2`	`how was it?`
`01:23.47`	`cp5`	`pfn, yeah, they'll drop the setup if you're not using an ata`
`01:23.53`	`cp5`	`zane, was enjoyable`
`01:24.09`	`zane2`	`did u go to the speeches dealing with voip?`
`01:24.28`	`cp5`	`hung out with a lot of cool people, some good parties like caezar's challenge, drove back home with a core openssl/apache developer`
`01:24.30`	`figfig`	`I have been researching voicemail sharing (across load balanced machines) technologies. I have learned more based on suggestions of people here, and am giving the newest update: Coda- perfect solution, but unstable. AFS- stable, but doesn't do readwrite replication, so useless. SGI fam- could be useful, but more of a replication library than a solution.`
`01:24.41`	`cp5`	`i saw luckys speech, wasn't anything fabulous`
`01:24.46`	`pfn`	`he asked me what I was using, I said asterisk, he came back and said "all our plans start at $200 for asterisk solutions"`
`01:24.47`	`pfn`	`fuckers`
`01:25.02`	`cp5`	`pfn, who?`
`01:25.10`	`jr99`	`pfn: who's that?`
`01:25.11`	`pfn`	`I called up fonality and some guy answered`
`01:25.19`	`zane2`	`was that guy Jeremy who runs Nufone at Defcon?`
`01:25.37`	`jr99`	`pfn: just now?`
`01:25.37`	`figfig`	`still no solution except writing scripts that load balance by hand.`
`01:25.42`	`pfn`	`yeah, I called just now`
`01:25.57`	`jr99`	`i'll call too.. :-P`
`01:26.19`	`cp5`	`say it's for personal use`
`01:26.28`	`cp5`	`they gave me the same bs cause they thought it was for business use`
`01:26.29`	`pfn`	`I said I'll have like 1 or 2 extensions`
`01:26.32`	`pfn`	`he still gave me the same bs`
`01:26.42`	`pfn`	`he said he can't do anything about it`
`01:26.45`	`pfn`	`fuck it`
`01:27.00`	`jr99`	`i'm using my single grandstream SIP phone.`
`01:28.04`	`pfn`	`how do these voip providers provision x-lite/x-pro without you knowing the password?`
`01:28.10`	`pfn`	`since that's the case with vonage and fonality, it appears`
`01:28.13`	`jr99`	`I got some tool.`
`01:28.17`	`jr99`	`i'm on hold.`
`01:28.28`	`pfn`	`how'd you get on hold?`
`01:29.05`	`pfn`	`the golocal plan is affordable, $10/mo`
`01:29.11`	`pfn`	`if they do lower bitrate codecs`
`01:29.14`	`pfn`	`and oob dtmf`
`01:29.17`	`pfn`	`I'd totally go for it`
`01:29.56`	`pfn`	`unlimited local calling would be nice`
`01:30.19`	`nowork`	`$10/mo?`
`01:30.20`	`nowork`	`wow`
`01:30.25`	`cp5`	`sweet, they do gsm`
`01:30.31`	`pfn`	`I want more than just gsm`
`01:30.33`	`pfn`	`ilbc or g729`
`01:30.33`	`nowork`	`any URL for reference?`
`01:30.37`	`pfn`	`www.fonality.com`
`01:30.48`	`pfn`	`jr99 what'd the guy come back to you with?`
`01:30.51`	`pfn`	`cp5 how do you know?`
`01:31.02`	`cp5`	`i just made a gsm call`
`01:31.06`	`pfn`	`oh`
`01:31.15`	`pfn`	`ilbc or g729 are my codecs of choice`
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`01:31.52`	`jr99`	`I told him, I am using asterisk @ home. Just a geek with a house full of extensions, and just want a SIP account, no BS, no support... he said fine.. I told him he can keep his ATA and he said he would look into waiving the act fee since I wouldn't get getting their hardware .`
`01:32.08`	`pfn`	`interesting`
`01:32.13`	`pfn`	`did you ask which codecs they support?`
`01:32.16`	`jr99`	`his name is Mark.. so you can get it from fonality.. just need to be pushy..`
`01:32.21`	`pfn`	`and inband vs. out of band dtmf?`
`01:32.33`	`jr99`	`i'd call back, but he ain't gonna know..`
`01:32.54`	`pfn`	`cp5 can you check g729 and ilbc? :)`
`01:33.08`	`pfn`	`cp5 or actually, can you pastebin a copy of the sip invite message? :)`
`01:33.13`	`jr99`	`money back guarantee... I guess you would still pay act though...`
`01:33.20`	`jr99`	`so, cp5 has the service?`
`01:33.39`	`pfn`	`it'll tell you which codecs the remote end supports`
`01:34.07`	`pfn`	`yeah`
`01:34.42`	`jr99`	`so, how does a company like fonality have the DIDs in all these areas?`
`01:34.59`	`sivana`	`ok.. I got no callerid checksum error this time, however, when I hit ext 1 for sales, it still shows up on my sip phone as "asterisk"`
`01:35.02`	`sivana`	`any ideas on that one?`
`01:35.29`	`pfn`	`jr99 they negotiate with locate rate centers`
`01:35.47`	`cp5`	`i just called them`
`01:35.50`	`cp5`	`i've talked to them before`
`01:35.53`	`jr99`	`so, they don't need to put hardware in all those locations, right?`
`01:35.54`	`sivana`	`is the callerid maintained during a Goto()?`
`01:36.00`	`cp5`	`say you know samy and want the same plan he has (me)`
`01:36.02`	`pfn`	`sivana yes`
`01:36.11`	`sivana`	`same as Dial()?`
`01:36.12`	`cp5`	`jr99, did they give you the $200 bs too?`
`01:36.12`	`pfn`	`which plan do you have?`
`01:36.24`	`pfn`	`I want the lowest possible price plan`
`01:36.26`	`pfn`	`I'm a cheap bastard`
`01:36.27`	`pfn`	`heh`
`01:36.29`	`cp5`	`haha`
`01:36.32`	`cp5`	`get their local plan`
`01:36.36`	`cp5`	`i think its unlimited local`
`01:36.45`	`cp5`	`just say you know samy and want the same deal`
`01:36.48`	`pfn`	`what's considered local? in-state?`
`01:36.50`	`jr99`	`cp5: no, I told him that it was personal, just want a SIP account, they can keep the hardware.. he said fine.`
`01:36.58`	`cp5`	`jr99, cool`
`01:37.07`	`jr99`	`cp5: we will see though..`
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`01:37.19`	`h3x`	`you know`
`01:37.27`	`pfn`	`cp5 can you paste a copy of the SIP INVITE you get from fonality? I wanna see what codecs they support`
`01:37.28`	`h3x`	`sokol's astman isnt too bad but it sure is buggy as hell`
`01:37.37`	`pfn`	`just sip debug and call your DID`
`01:37.39`	`pfn`	`and paste that`
`01:37.47`	`cp5`	`the dude said he would waive shipping and setup for anyone who says they want the same deal as me`
`01:37.48`	`jr99`	`if you don't need a DID there is also http://www.inphonex.com/main/services.php`
`01:37.56`	`cp5`	`pfn, one sec`
`01:37.59`	`pfn`	`cp5 is ther eonly 1 dude?`
`01:38.14`	`pfn`	`if I don't need a DID there's plenty of places I can go to`
`01:38.17`	`cp5`	`dunno, i've talked to at least 2 or 3 people there`
`01:38.18`	`pfn`	`I only want a did and nothing else`
`01:38.45`	`sivana`	`does anyone have callerid being passed to the extensions?`
`01:39.00`	`pfn`	`of course, everyone does, I'm sure :p`
`01:39.02`	`JunK-Y`	`sivana: hihj?`
`01:39.16`	`JunK-Y`	`${CALLERIDNUM} ?`
`01:39.21`	`pfn`	`cp5 so they all know your name? heh`
`01:39.36`	`pfn`	`cp5 so is it $10 total or $12.50 including their "tax" ?`
`01:39.58`	`cp5`	`i dunno, the same guy almost always picks up`
`01:40.09`	`pfn`	`I see`
`01:40.10`	`sivana`	`JunK-Y: no... when I hit ext 1.. it dials my extentions (2010), however my sip phone shows "asterisk" instead of the caller's id`
`01:40.12`	`cp5`	`i pay like under $11/mo`
`01:40.37`	`pfn`	`I'd pay another $4 to get rid of broadvoice`
`01:40.37`	`jr99`	`don't think bellsouth will do naked DSL...`
`01:40.40`	`jr99`	`frmo reading..`
`01:40.41`	`pfn`	`those fuckers don't always work right`
`01:40.42`	`JunK-Y`	`sivana: i didnt touch sip until now, so i've no idea :(`
`01:40.45`	`pfn`	`sbc doesn't do naked dsl yet`
`01:40.47`	`cp5`	`jr99, call and ask just in case`
`01:40.51`	`sivana`	`JunK-Y: ok`
`01:40.52`	`cp5`	`pfn, i heard they do`
`01:40.58`	`pfn`	`I can't do naked dsl anyway, not yet`
`01:41.04`	`pfn`	`someone else in the house needs to have the pots line`
`01:41.07`	`cp5`	`i heard they don't, then i talked to someone else who had it`
`01:41.32`	`jr99`	`yea, I will call.`
`01:41.36`	`cp5`	`oh yeah`
`01:41.37`	`cp5`	`heh`
`01:41.38`	`cp5`	`one sec`
`01:42.12`	`jr99`	`I guess I could always go back over cable modem.. but I hated COX and DSL extreme is so much faster.`
`01:42.32`	`sivana`	`is ztmonitor installed by default on compile?`
`01:42.37`	`pfn`	`sivana no`
`01:42.48`	`sivana`	`where do I get that?`
`01:42.55`	`pfn`	`it's in the sources`
`01:43.00`	`pfn`	`it gets compiled but not installed`
`01:45.27`	`cp5`	`a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000/1`
`01:45.27`	`cp5`	`a=rtpmap:4 G723/8000/1`
`01:45.27`	`cp5`	`a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000/1`
`01:45.35`	`pfn`	`go down a little more`
`01:45.39`	`pfn`	`there's also capabilities`
`01:45.55`	`pfn`	`Capabilities: us - 0x516(GSM\|ULAW\|G726\|G729A\|ILBC), peer - audio=0x100(G729A)/vi`
`01:45.55`	`pfn`	`deo=0x0(EMPTY), combined - 0x100(G729A)`
`01:45.57`	`pfn`	`something like that`
`01:46.14`	`chuji`	`pfn: Are you going to try and get your $ back from bv if you leave?`
`01:46.29`	`pfn`	`what $? I'll ask for them to waive the disconnect fee`
`01:46.41`	`pfn`	`cp5 cuz that doesn't list gsm, and you said they supported gsm`
`01:46.52`	`chuji`	`pfn: I didn't see that they had a disconnect fee`
`01:46.54`	`chuji`	`how much is that?`
`01:47.05`	`pfn`	`like $50 or so`
`01:47.11`	`pfn`	`they should waive it if you don't have an ATA`
`01:47.11`	`chuji`	`You get like a 14 day trial with them right? I don't think i`
`01:47.15`	`chuji`	`I've had them that long`
`01:47.21`	`pfn`	`I've been with BV for over a month now`
`01:47.26`	`chuji`	`Gotcha`
`01:47.34`	`chuji`	`I've not been too happy either`
`01:47.38`	`pfn`	`you'll get your money back if you cancel earlier`
`01:47.57`	`chuji`	`They are still sending me 192.168. addresses in the sip from: line`
`01:48.06`	`chuji`	`f0rxing up my sip.conf`
`01:48.07`	`pfn`	`are you sure that isn't you? :p`
`01:48.19`	`pfn`	`is your localnet 192.168?`
`01:48.21`	`chuji`	`Nah, I dont' have any 192. addresss`
`01:48.27`	`pfn`	`indeed`
`01:48.30`	`chuji`	`nuh uh. 10.100.`
`01:48.39`	`chuji`	`I emailed them about it`
`01:48.47`	`chuji`	`they haven't answered`
`01:49.13`	`chuji`	`Doesn't happen all the time, just sometimes`
`01:49.20`	`chuji`	`If I do a sip reload, it fixes it`
`01:49.29`	`pfn`	`how lame`
`01:49.31`	`chuji`	`I've go sip reload in the cron for every 15 minutes`
`01:49.32`	`jr99`	`cp5: should we list you as fonality customer so you get the referral credit.. and then you paypal me back half.. deal?`
`01:49.34`	`pfn`	`I haven't encountered that`
`01:49.34`	`chuji`	`Yeah, no shit`
`01:49.58`	`chuji`	`pfn: Do you have a default context in your sip.conf?`
`01:50.04`	`pfn`	`yes`
`01:50.09`	`pfn`	`I can't get it to work right with broadvoice otherwise`
`01:50.30`	`pfn`	`unless I go and define 4 friends`
`01:50.33`	`pfn`	`fuck that`
`01:50.38`	`chuji`	`pfn: Yeah, works for me if I do that too, but if I specify an address in the context, it doesn't work`
`01:50.53`	`pfn`	`?`
`01:51.11`	`jr99`	`anyway to tell if an area code/exchange is a local call to another area code/exchange?`
`01:51.12`	`pfn`	`'cuz broadvoice sends from the proxy`
`01:51.24`	`pfn`	`jr99 you use your telco's lookup tool`
`01:51.30`	`pfn`	`or you can map it out...`
`01:51.30`	`chuji`	`that si what I did, bv-1 - bv-4`
`01:51.30`	`chuji`	`But that works until they send the 192. shit`
`01:51.42`	`pfn`	`yeah, I don't like it`
`01:51.59`	`pfn`	`cp5 has gone into hiding....`
`01:52.11`	`jr99`	`I guess he didn't like my offer.`
`01:52.31`	`pfn`	`damn, they closed already`
`01:52.36`	`pfn`	`for the night`
`01:52.40`	`jr99`	`fonality?`
`01:52.43`	`pfn`	`yeah`
`01:52.57`	`pfn`	`if cp5 would affirm that fonality supports ilbc or g729, I'd sign up right away`
`01:53.33`	`chuji`	`Bleh fonality doesn't have did's in my hood`
`01:53.57`	`pfn`	`I guess I'll have to wait 'til tomorrow`
`01:54.02`	`chuji`	`pfn: Did you get your first bil from bv?`
`01:54.04`	`jr99`	`mark answered the phone for me..`
`01:54.11`	`jr99`	`any other fonality questions while I have them on the line...`
`01:54.14`	`pfn`	`codecs`
`01:54.17`	`pfn`	`which codecs`
`01:54.18`	`fry77`	`has someone configure a E1 PRI before? I'm still having problems ...`
`01:54.27`	`jr99`	`asking about g729... any others you care about..`
`01:54.31`	`pfn`	`ilbc`
`01:54.36`	`pfn`	`and inband dtmf`
`01:54.42`	`jr99`	`this guys head is gonna spin.`
`01:55.04`	`jr99`	`group purchase too?`
`01:55.12`	`pfn`	`heh, perhaps?`
`01:55.22`	`chuji`	`discounts on hummers too?`
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`01:55.33`	`chuji`	`pfn: did you get your first bill from bv?`
`01:55.37`	`pfn`	`yes`
`01:55.44`	`chuji`	`Did you get any overage billing?`
`01:55.51`	`pfn`	`no, I don't make that many calls`
`01:55.55`	`chuji`	`like if you had two simultanious calls?`
`01:55.58`	`pfn`	`most I've had was like 4 or 5 lines incoming at once`
`01:56.03`	`pfn`	`I haven't tried multiple outbound`
`01:56.23`	`pfn`	`New Charge Total $7.67`
`01:56.23`	`pfn`	`Call Charge Details as of 7/18/2004`
`01:56.29`	`chuji`	`so they shouldn't give me any shit for that`
`01:56.32`	`pfn`	`yeah, I tested to see how many incoming I could get`
`01:56.34`	`pfn`	`with cuban I think`
`01:56.37`	`pfn`	`and I got it up to 5`
`01:56.47`	`chuji`	`Then it bombed?`
`01:56.55`	`pfn`	`it went to shit long before that :p`
`01:57.03`	`pfn`	`I run out of bandwidth after 3 calls on g711`
`01:57.05`	`chuji`	`your bw?`
`01:57.07`	`pfn`	`well, 3 will sound good`
`01:57.17`	`pfn`	`4 will start to sound like shit, and 5 makes 'em all horrible`
`01:57.29`	`pfn`	`jr99 any answer yet?`
`01:57.37`	`chuji`	`Heh, I just need two calls`
`01:57.40`	`chuji`	`1 in and 1 out`
`01:57.42`	`chuji`	`at the same time`
`01:57.52`	`pfn`	`well, I like to do conferences on occasion`
`01:58.13`	`chuji`	`my upload pipe on my cable modem is capped at 14k`
`01:58.18`	`chuji`	`bastards`
`01:58.22`	`pfn`	`14KB/s?`
`01:58.25`	`pfn`	`how do you manage 2 calls then?`
`01:58.41`	`chuji`	`I don't`
`01:58.55`	`pfn`	`I cap my upload at ~340kbps`
`01:58.59`	`PatrickDK`	`you can only handle the udp/ip overhead at 14k`
`01:59.01`	`pfn`	`so as to not overwhelm my sendq`
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`01:59.19`	`decode`	`she even brings me beer`
`01:59.19`	`*** part/#asterisk d\|m (~d\|m@202-4-40-75.lesamoa.net)`
`01:59.24`	`decode`	`and idles on irc :)`
`01:59.31`	`decode`	`calls me VoIP style`
`01:59.38`	`jr99`	`got the info...`
`01:59.38`	`decode`	`and plays guitar.. should i marry her? :)`
`01:59.39`	`wtbfdb`	`twisted: trying to catch you`
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`01:59.42`	`wtbfdb`	`re: fax detect does not detect fax from Brother Intellafax 4100`
`01:59.44`	`pfn`	`jr99 and?`
`01:59.54`	`\|Vulture\|`	`pfn: I had to turn uPnP on`
`01:59.55`	`jr99`	`g711 ulaw alaw gsm ... adding g729`
`02:00.11`	`jr99`	`Speak to Marc in sales and he will wave the activation fee and shipping fee.`
`02:00.14`	`pfn`	`hmm, is gsm enough for me to jump ship`
`02:00.25`	`pfn`	`I guess I can give it a shot`
`02:00.48`	`jr99`	`and need to call back tomorrow to speak to a sales engineer re: inband/out-of-band dtmf.`
`02:01.19`	`jr99`	`why is 729 so good?`
`02:01.26`	`PatrickDK`	`jr99, who is that with?`
`02:01.32`	`jr99`	`fonality`
`02:01.40`	`PatrickDK`	`729 uses very little bandwidth 8k`
`02:01.50`	`PatrickDK`	`I thinkI perfer gsm over 729`
`02:01.52`	`jr99`	`they are "adding" it.`
`02:01.56`	`PatrickDK`	`cisco stuff defaults to 729`
`02:02.54`	`jr99`	`fonality has the $9.99 with local DID.. which is likely what I will go with.. especially since I will still have my bellsouth line..`
`02:03.02`	`\|Vulture\|`	`are RTP ports UDP or TCP?`
`02:03.08`	`jr99`	`UDP I think.`
`02:03.18`	`PatrickDK`	`udp`
`02:03.51`	`PatrickDK`	`hmm, I just need an unlimited simultanious calls plan`
`02:03.57`	`PatrickDK`	`don't care about the min per month`
`02:03.58`	`\|Vulture\|`	`strange right now I got Brodvoice to work fine, but my * server only alows audio out not in when Im connected through NAT`
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`02:04.22`	`jr99`	`\|Vulture\| * is behind NAT and client is behind nat?`
`02:04.35`	`\|Vulture\|`	`jr99: yes`
`02:04.48`	`PatrickDK`	`vulture, did you port forward udp ports 10000-20000`
`02:04.53`	`\|Vulture\|`	`I did`
`02:04.57`	`\|Vulture\|`	`and 5060-5063`
`02:05.08`	`\|Vulture\|`	`on both routers * and SIP phone`
`02:05.18`	`PatrickDK`	`heh?`
`02:05.23`	`jr99`	`PatrickDK: wait.. if I have * at home.. with 3 FXS ports and fonality via SIP that means that I will be able to have 3 calling going at once?`
`02:05.25`	`chuji`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:05.31`	`chuji`	`Ok looks like they upped my bw`
`02:05.50`	`chuji`	`how many calls can I get at 32K?`
`02:05.52`	`chuji`	`just one?`
`02:05.52`	`PatrickDK`	`jr99, hmm, doubt fonality will let you make 3 calls at once`
`02:06.03`	`PatrickDK`	`32k? hmm, 1 call`
`02:06.10`	`\|Vulture\|`	`how many does broadvoice allow?`
`02:06.12`	`PatrickDK`	`32k bytes`
`02:06.19`	`chuji`	`what if I did IAX?`
`02:06.21`	`jr99`	`PatrickDK: humm.. but don't you need to have multiple register in sip.conf?`
`02:06.23`	`chuji`	`2?`
`02:06.23`	`pfn`	`ok, dude at fonality said if anyone wants to place order now, they can sign up`
`02:06.28`	`PatrickDK`	`chuji, 8 calls at gsm rate`
`02:06.31`	`PatrickDK`	`or something like that`
`02:06.34`	`pfn`	`next 15 minutes he'll be in the shop to drop the shipping/activation fees`
`02:06.35`	`jr99`	`pfn: instant activation?`
`02:06.38`	`pfn`	`yeah`
`02:06.43`	`pfn`	`I think so`
`02:06.48`	`pfn`	`I'm in no rush really`
`02:06.48`	`chuji`	`PatrickDK: So I should terminate my SIP lines on my remote box?`
`02:06.52`	`pfn`	`just wanna make sure I get taken care of, heh`
`02:06.54`	`chuji`	`and do IAX back ?`
`02:06.57`	`PatrickDK`	`jr99, you need multible fonality accounts`
`02:06.59`	`jr99`	`pfn: can you make multiple calls with it? simultanious outgoing?`
`02:07.02`	`PatrickDK`	`chuji, no your fine`
`02:07.08`	`PatrickDK`	`32kbytes = 256k`
`02:07.08`	`pfn`	`jr99 damned if I know those details, ask samy`
`02:07.09`	`jr99`	`PatrickDK: yea, figured that.`
`02:07.13`	`*** join/#asterisk DrRighteous (~poll49@ool-4357142c.dyn.optonline.net)`
`02:07.20`	`pfn`	`that isn't that important to me`
`02:07.27`	`PatrickDK`	`28k per gsm call 87k per ulaw call`
`02:07.27`	`jr99`	`pfn: yea, but still cool.`
`02:07.33`	`pfn`	`although, I'd be pretty sure they won't limit you too heavily`
`02:07.34`	`chuji`	`PatrickDK: Ok, cool.. Just need two calls`
`02:07.49`	`chuji`	`PatrickDK: I've setup QOS, so I should be cool then`
`02:07.52`	`jr99`	`pfn: but don't you need multiple SIP accounts, or just register twice?`
`02:07.55`	`PatrickDK`	`yep`
`02:08.02`	`pfn`	`no, you only register once`
`02:08.26`	`jr99`	`and have mutliple channels?`
`02:08.51`	`PatrickDK`	`I need like 8 channels right now`
`02:08.55`	`PatrickDK`	`heh`
`02:08.59`	`chuji`	`Heh`
`02:09.01`	`chuji`	`at home?`
`02:09.01`	`pfn`	`yes`
`02:09.13`	`jr99`	`i'd justlike to be able to use the phone when the wife is like blah blah blah blah.`
`02:09.15`	`PatrickDK`	`chuji, ya, on the phone alot, using around 4000min a month`
`02:09.31`	`PatrickDK`	`normally it's around 3 at once, but it can get up around 8-10`
`02:09.35`	`\|Vulture\|`	`how many inbound does voicepulse allow?`
`02:09.38`	`PatrickDK`	`4`
`02:09.39`	`\|Vulture\|`	`per DID`
`02:09.41`	`pfn`	`vulture hearsay says 4 or 5`
`02:09.46`	`JohnJacob`	`sweet, i just setup my system to call me when people su or login as root :)`
`02:09.49`	`\|Vulture\|`	`oh thats pretty good`
`02:10.03`	`jr99`	`JohnJacob: hehe.. I want to work on a nagios -> voice interface.`
`02:10.04`	`PatrickDK`	`I don't think that is per did though, I think that is per account`
`02:10.05`	`pfn`	`so the guy said ilbc and g729 are in the works`
`02:10.15`	`pfn`	`enough to make me jumpship to fonality`
`02:10.16`	`chuji`	`Those of you that have voicepulse, do you have vp connect?`
`02:10.19`	`jr99`	`yea, and he sounded very knowledgable..`
`02:10.20`	`chuji`	`Or just standard?`
`02:10.23`	`pfn`	`I have a vp connect account`
`02:10.27`	`PatrickDK`	`vp connect + nufone`
`02:10.27`	`\|Vulture\|`	`chuji: vp connect`
`02:10.32`	`pfn`	`I have 40 cents in there`
`02:10.33`	`chuji`	`y not just the standard?`
`02:10.33`	`\|Vulture\|`	`cp connect + bv here`
`02:10.34`	`*** join/#asterisk scud (~scud@12-218-70-19.client.mchsi.com)`
`02:10.35`	`pfn`	`I have a nufone account, too`
`02:10.45`	`pfn`	`although, I haven't called my fiancee much lately, so I still have $40 left in there :)`
`02:10.47`	`chuji`	`why connect?`
`02:10.48`	`PatrickDK`	`can't make multible calls with standard`
`02:10.56`	`\|Vulture\|`	`chuji: it works with *`
`02:10.57`	`pfn`	`cuz standard is ATA-only`
`02:10.58`	`PatrickDK`	`why would I want stadard?`
`02:11.03`	`jr99`	`you know, companies should want to sign up as many people as possible in here..`
`02:11.04`	`chuji`	`ohh, bleh`
`02:11.29`	`pfn`	`jr99 I dunno, I'd fear, too many abusers out there, heh`
`02:11.35`	`pfn`	`but yeah, test dummies indeed`
`02:12.11`	`pfn`	`why for?`
`02:12.16`	`jr99`	`yea, but think about how well they can test their abuse policies and procedures?`
`02:12.18`	`PatrickDK`	`they still haven't answered my email from 2+ weeks ago`
`02:12.20`	`DrRighteous`	`does anyone besides VP allow for porting an existing number?`
`02:12.23`	`PatrickDK`	`or the follow up I sent`
`02:12.37`	`pfn`	`apparently fonality can port numbers, heh`
`02:12.40`	`jr99`	`DrRighteous: fonality appears to.`
`02:12.42`	`pfn`	`broadvoice can, can't they?`
`02:12.52`	`jr99`	`<fineprint>"in certain areas"</fineprint>`
`02:12.57`	`PatrickDK`	`fonality can't port any numbers where I live, either place, around D.C.`
`02:12.59`	`*** join/#asterisk dbsr (debaser@bean.catheadlabs.com)`
`02:13.03`	`*** join/#asterisk JeffBuhrt (~Jeff@user-0c93kq3.cable.mindspring.com)`
`02:13.05`	`chuji`	`So there is no setup or disconnect with the VP number?`
`02:13.09`	`PatrickDK`	`broadvoice can though`
`02:13.13`	`pfn`	`chuji no activation fee`
`02:13.16`	`DrRighteous`	`BV cant I asked`
`02:13.25`	`pfn`	`broadvoice sucks those damn bastards, heh`
`02:13.29`	`DrRighteous`	`they say end of year`
`02:13.37`	`pfn`	`I mean, wtf does 1 of their servers have to be down`
`02:13.43`	`chuji`	`no cool features though? Like forwarding?`
`02:13.44`	`pfn`	`if it's down, they need to turn off the damn dns entry`
`02:14.01`	`pfn`	`chuji it's not end-user service`
`02:14.04`	`jr99`	`nice.. round robin DNS with one missing? like russian roulette?`
`02:14.11`	`chuji`	`pfn: Yeah, I'm seeing that`
`02:14.20`	`pfn`	`yeah, sip.broadvoice.com = 147.135.0.129 and 147.135.8.129`
`02:14.22`	`pfn`	`0.129 is dead`
`02:14.29`	`jr99`	`thats nice.`
`02:14.30`	`chuji`	`How stable has it been? In relation to bv?`
`02:14.37`	`chuji`	`vp that is`
`02:14.42`	`pfn`	`vpc? i think vpc is more stable than bv`
`02:14.46`	`pfn`	`but then again, I don't use it that much`
`02:14.52`	`dbsr`	`anybody doing sip on vpns routed over satellite?`
`02:14.56`	`chuji`	`hmm, I might have to hook up with that`
`02:15.02`	`chuji`	`dbsr: Don't bother`
`02:15.05`	`dbsr`	`i know there will be delay issues`
`02:15.09`	`jr99`	`nope, but doesn't sat have like super latency?`
`02:15.09`	`pfn`	`delay issues`
`02:15.09`	`pfn`	`bah`
`02:15.16`	`chuji`	`dbsr: Latancy like a mofo`
`02:15.17`	`pfn`	`I have 300ms ping and I still have perfectly acceptable conversations`
`02:15.23`	`dbsr`	`600ms`
`02:15.27`	`pfn`	`my ping times to vietnam are ~300ms`
`02:15.33`	`pfn`	`and the conversation is completely normal`
`02:15.40`	`pfn`	`they average 300ms, that is`
`02:15.46`	`dbsr`	`give another 50ms for encryption issues`
`02:15.48`	`DrRighteous`	`I just need someone that can give me cheap inbound DIDs I dont mind paying per min inbound, but I need a lot of different cities/numbers`
`02:16.06`	`pfn`	`drrighteous talk to wsuff`
`02:16.16`	`pfn`	`I think he's looking into acquiring a broad range of DIDs`
`02:16.23`	`pfn`	`wsuff/dedd`
`02:16.26`	`DrRighteous`	`Already did...`
`02:16.32`	`dbsr`	`chuji: i don't really have much of a choice. i need voice services in test areas without cell coverage`
`02:16.35`	`DrRighteous`	`but its taking a whule :(`
`02:16.40`	`pfn`	`it will take a while`
`02:16.43`	`h3x`	`Aug 4 19:29:55 WARNING[1225991360]: dsp.c:1398 ast_dsp_silence: Can only calculate silence on signed-linear frames :(`
`02:16.45`	`h3x`	`what the fuck is that`
`02:16.56`	`pfn`	`it can only calculate silence on signed linear frames`
`02:16.58`	`pfn`	`that's what it is`
`02:17.13`	`\|Vulture\|`	`lol`
`02:17.27`	`dbsr`	`just wondering if i should look at running asterisk on the truck servers and have an iax trunk through our satellite uplinks back to each office/lab`
`02:17.28`	`jr99`	`the exec team has "Founded and led one of the world�s largest hosting companies"`
`02:17.57`	`pfn`	`dbsr 600ms is a bit slow`
`02:18.00`	`PatrickDK`	`satellite + voip != good service`
`02:18.07`	`pfn`	`if that's all you can get, I think it'd still be acceptable as long as the latency is consistent`
`02:18.12`	`pfn`	`and the packet delivery is reliable`
`02:18.31`	`dbsr`	`heh, yeah. its not going to be good service. but it will be service, which is more than we got now. =]`
`02:18.33`	`DrRighteous`	`and the weather holds out ;)`
`02:18.34`	`file`	`so - can anybody sell me a data T1 in Chicago, IL?`
`02:18.45`	`file`	`rates rates rates`
`02:18.48`	`pfn`	`file check with denon? heh`
`02:18.55`	`file`	`I was trying to remember who`
`02:18.59`	`DrRighteous`	`file, of all places, nufone has IL dids/lines`
`02:19.13`	`file`	`I don't need DIDs/Lines`
`02:19.16`	`file`	`I have DIDs and lines`
`02:19.20`	`DrRighteous`	`ummm`
`02:19.27`	`DrRighteous`	`oh data T1?`
`02:19.38`	`file`	`yes`
`02:20.05`	`pfn`	`ok, it's time to get out of here`
`02:20.06`	`DrRighteous`	`try calling level3, they have ok prices on data T1's now`
`02:20.13`	`DrRighteous`	`and good bandwidth`
`02:20.53`	`dbsr`	`oh, but my question was, is there any reason to not use asterisk over sat? ie, will it puke/timeout/whatever due to sat lag?`
`02:21.03`	`daork`	`people still buy data E1/T1's?`
`02:21.06`	`PatrickDK`	`not really`
`02:21.17`	`PatrickDK`	`should work alright`
`02:21.22`	`PatrickDK`	`just expect a huge lag :)`
`02:21.32`	`dbsr`	`daork: yeah. most of the world doesn't live in major cities or have access to ETTB`
`02:21.33`	`PatrickDK`	`I have ran with a 8 second lag before`
`02:21.48`	`jr99`	`is there a PTSN line into FWD?`
`02:21.51`	`daork`	`hmm`
`02:21.57`	`*** join/#asterisk jonas (jonas@jonas.probe-networks.host.freenode)`
`02:22.28`	`decode`	`jr99: lots of em`
`02:22.32`	`decode`	`libretel does em`
`02:22.34`	`dbsr`	`PatrickDK: ok. i don't feel so bad now. =]`
`02:22.37`	`jr99`	`wheres da list?`
`02:22.41`	`decode`	`jr99: on fwd's site?`
`02:22.44`	`*** part/#asterisk JeffBuhrt (~Jeff@user-0c93kq3.cable.mindspring.com)`
`02:22.56`	`decode`	`its there ;)`
`02:23.58`	`jr99`	`decode: this it`
`02:23.59`	`jr99`	`?`
`02:23.59`	`jr99`	`http://www.libretel.com/access.html`
`02:24.05`	`decode`	`yea thats it`
`02:24.13`	`decode`	`didnt remember it off my head heh`
`02:24.41`	`decode`	`theres an ass load of 302's`
`02:25.18`	`jr99`	`called 2 and no answer...`
`02:26.26`	`jr99`	`just silence...`
`02:26.40`	`decode`	`hmm`
`02:26.47`	`decode`	`It should answer and ask for the fwd user #`
`02:26.52`	`*** join/#asterisk twilson (~twilson@CPE-65-26-33-192.kc.rr.com)`
`02:26.53`	`jr99`	`yea..`
`02:27.54`	`twilson`	`is something wrong with the digium cvs server? i can check out zaptel, zapata and libpri, but 'cvs co asterisk' returns 'No such file or directory'`
`02:28.19`	`*** join/#asterisk dcowgill (~daniel@vsat-148-63-96-120.c002.t7.mrt.starband.net)`
`02:29.11`	`twilson`	`never mind... seems to be working now.`
`02:30.17`	`jr99`	`I think the FWD PTSN numbers are dead.`
`02:30.24`	`decode`	`i dont think so`
`02:30.26`	`decode`	`i used one the other day`
`02:30.30`	`decode`	`302-204-3111`
`02:30.31`	`jr99`	`for incomming?`
`02:30.53`	`jr99`	`trying to call that from my cell and get nothing..`
`02:30.55`	`trelane`	`having another problem, asterisk is working now. When I attempt to call in via nufone, it is giving me the following message: *CLI> Aug 4 17:02:50 NOTICE[163850]: chan_iax2.c:5238 socket_read: Rejected connect attempt from 198.22.67.70`
`02:31.15`	`cp5`	`i just talked to one of the tech guys at fonality`
`02:31.23`	`jr99`	`cp5: yea?`
`02:31.34`	`jr99`	`they are giving all the * IRC users free accounts?`
`02:31.35`	`cp5`	`they just added g729`
`02:31.38`	`jr99`	`just like that?`
`02:31.40`	`jr99`	`:-P`
`02:31.40`	`cp5`	`i wish`
`02:31.46`	`dbsr`	`how are the new * books?`
`02:31.47`	`cp5`	`i shouldve asked`
`02:31.58`	`cp5`	`i told then to add ilbc`
`02:32.01`	`Damin`	`DO NOT BUY ASTERISK FOR SMALL OFFICE SETUP!`
`02:32.04`	`Damin`	`IT IS TOTAL SHIT!`
`02:32.04`	`cp5`	`and he's like 'ok'`
`02:32.08`	`Damin`	`I wasted $50 onit.`
`02:32.15`	`trelane`	`Damin, ok you can chill now`
`02:32.23`	`Damin`	`I'm fine. ;)`
`02:32.26`	`trelane`	`good ;)`
`02:32.29`	`trelane`	`well said though`
`02:32.37`	`dbsr`	`Damin: whats wrong with it?`
`02:32.41`	`jr99`	`What is "local`
`02:32.44`	`jr99`	`" area for fonality?`
`02:32.44`	`dbsr`	`just teh sukc or what?`
`02:32.47`	`dcowgill`	`actually asterisk is pretty good for a small pbx`
`02:33.09`	`Damin`	`dbsr: Bad Grammar, Horrible Layout, "editors" comments still left in it.`
`02:33.24`	`dcowgill`	`not a unix type persson are you`
`02:33.34`	`Damin`	`dbsr: Trust me. It is horrible.`
`02:33.39`	`shmooz`	`whats the best gui/web front end for asterisk? It looks like Actos to me , but I can't get it to properly report what dependencies I'm missing`
`02:33.54`	`shmooz`	`I'm thinking of writing one in php`
`02:34.00`	`Damin`	`dbsr: At one point in the book it has the following;`
`02:34.08`	`dbsr`	`i need to, realistically, maintain * servers at each office and lab location, and then remote * servers on test ranges for various people with wifi phones or something with a satellite uplink.`
`02:34.15`	`jr99`	`shmooz: get the project going.. I'm sure others would help.`
`02:34.20`	`Damin`	`dbsr: "Here we should start talking about the Dial command"`
`02:34.30`	`shmooz`	`jr99: so theres a need for it?`
`02:34.33`	`trelane`	`shmooz, actos is pretty good but it's extremely beta`
`02:34.46`	`shmooz`	`woooohooooo!, I'm gonna be a star`
`02:34.48`	`jr99`	`shmooz: we talking just about config stuff? not usage?`
`02:34.51`	`trelane`	`having another problem, asterisk is working now. When I attempt to call in via nufone, it is giving me the following message: *CLI> Aug 4 17:02:50 NOTICE[163850]: chan_iax2.c:5238 socket_read: Rejected connect attempt from 198.22.67.70 anyone care to help me debug my extensions or iax.conf?`
`02:34.59`	`DrRighteous`	`Is there a directive for the outbound callfile that specifies the time to call (not a waittime) ?`
`02:35.00`	`jr99`	`shmooz: and voicemail, etc?`
`02:35.03`	`dbsr`	`Damin: do they actually start talking about it after that? =]`
`02:35.28`	`jr99`	`is FWD build on asterisk?`
`02:35.34`	`shmooz`	`well so far I figured out, add sip accounts , register with fwd, voicemail leaving/checking/ , autoattendant, queueing`
`02:35.34`	`Damin`	`dbsr: No.`
`02:36.12`	`dbsr`	`Damin: i'm guessing it just got rushed to press beause the other book was coming out?`
`02:36.38`	`shmooz`	`as I learn more I can keep adding them, but php seems pretty easy, just modify the configs and reload`
`02:36.58`	`Damin`	`dbsr: I'm guessing it was written by someone with no grasp of the english language, and even less regard for quality.`
`02:37.16`	`Damin`	`dbsr: Would you like some direct quotes from the book? :)`
`02:37.38`	`Damin`	`dbsr: Hell.. the LEAST they could have done is run spellcheck on it!`
`02:38.01`	`dbsr`	`naw. i'll probably buy both anyway. at the worst, it will be entertaining.`
`02:38.10`	`dcowgill`	`if your bitching about the book and not asterisk the program itself try #asterisksupport`
`02:38.11`	`file[laptop]`	`atacomm: lol`
`02:38.22`	`Damin`	`dbsr: I'll sell you my copy at 20% off!`
`02:38.42`	`Damin`	`dcowgill: I'm responding to someone who asked about the book.`
`02:38.57`	`dbsr`	`Damin: take corp amex or a P.O.? =]`
`02:39.01`	`Damin`	`dcowgill: I already spoke with the author and he is giving me a refund. ;)`
`02:39.06`	`dcowgill`	`lol`
`02:39.11`	`Damin`	`dbsr: Amex works. :)`
`02:39.18`	`dcowgill`	`but why does that make asterisk itself horrible`
`02:39.34`	`daork`	`who wrote it?`
`02:39.44`	`dcowgill`	`or as you put it <Damin> IT IS TOTAL SHIT!`
`02:39.52`	`Damin`	`dcowgill: It has nothing to do with Asterisk. Asterisk is awesome. The book "Asterisk for Small Office Setup" is a complete piece of crap.`
`02:40.14`	`dcowgill`	`ah i thought you where talking about the application of asterisk in a small office setup`
`02:40.18`	`Damin`	`dcowgill: You missed the preceding "DO NOT BUY ASTERISK FOR SMALL OFFICE SETUP"`
`02:40.26`	`dcowgill`	`no i got that`
`02:40.41`	`dcowgill`	`i thought you just meant, don't use asterisk for a small office setup`
`02:40.50`	`*** join/#asterisk jr99 (trilluser@adsl-065-005-202-014.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net)`
`02:41.01`	`daork`	`perhaps you should have said "Do not buy 'Asterisk for Small Office Setup'"`
`02:41.32`	`Grant_A`	`HOw can you tell if someone is logged into your windows machine`
`02:41.39`	`dbsr`	`i understod the exchange. =]`
`02:42.00`	`dcowgill`	`start run 'cmd /k net sessions'`
`02:42.40`	`Damin`	`How about this; "Asterisk for Small Office Setup, by Dan Cole, ISBN 097361100-6 is a complete waste of money."`
`02:42.42`	`trelane`	`anyone with a book about asterisk out`
`02:42.45`	`trelane`	`is a crock of shit`
`02:42.48`	`trelane`	`asterisk isn't even 1.0 yet`
`02:42.58`	`dcowgill`	`or if you want a gui right click on my computer goto manage shared folders sessions`
`02:43.08`	`sivana`	`does anyone know what DS-1 Access is? I've got a quote from my telco here and they have that item listed at $365 monthly`
`02:43.26`	`trelane`	`having another problem, asterisk is working now. When I attempt to call in via nufone, it is giving me the following message: *CLI> Aug 4 17:02:50 NOTICE[163850]: chan_iax2.c:5238 socket_read: Rejected connect attempt from 198.22.67.70 anyone care to help me debug my extensions.conf/iax.conf?`
`02:44.10`	`dcowgill`	`ds1 is a t1, basically`
`02:44.16`	`Damin`	`And I quote, from Page 108, header MySQL CDR;`
`02:44.24`	`sivana`	`trelane: have you look at this document: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20settings%20nufone ?`
`02:44.46`	`sivana`	`what is DTCI Termination (1 per DS-1)?`
`02:45.02`	`dcowgill`	`or 24 ds0s`
`02:45.23`	`Damin`	`"[Let's explain that MySQL support has not been removed from Asterisk but that it has been moved to a different section of CVS due to licensing issues. This might be a good section to explain them a little bit. Instructions should include how to get MySQL support put back unto Asterisk plus..."`
`02:45.33`	`Damin`	`Now..`
`02:45.58`	`dbsr`	`so its like, half written?`
`02:46.15`	`Damin`	`Why the hell would you publish a book with your editor's suggestions for which content SHOULD be in that section and not actually put -ANY- useful content about the subject in there?`
`02:46.32`	`sivana`	`if I have 23 B channels, does that mean I can have unlimited DIDs.. and do they automatically pick the next available channel?`
`02:46.46`	`dcowgill`	`wouldn't mysql be under gnu/bsd liscense`
`02:46.47`	`Corydon76-home`	`Because you get royalties for any suckers who actually do buy the book`
`02:47.00`	`trelane`	`sivana, yes and I followed it and jeremy's advice`
`02:47.01`	`h3x`	`sivana: yes`
`02:47.28`	`Corydon76-home`	`Doesn't matter how crappy a book is, you can get ANYTHING published`
`02:47.35`	`sivana`	`hrm.. can I have calling line id for each did or is it per channel?`
`02:47.46`	`trelane`	`sivana, it appears that for whatever reason asterisk isn't tieing together the IAX.conf entry and the incoming call from nufone`
`02:48.04`	`sivana`	`trelane: are you using nat?`
`02:48.06`	`dbsr`	`yeah. i could probably get a art phototography book of pictures of my toilet published.`
`02:48.39`	`Damin`	`And under the CAPI/ISDN section; "[We should give some introduction and clean this up a bit so it flows better in our book here]"`
`02:48.45`	`sivana`	`trelane: I don't know.. never used nufone`
`02:49.15`	`trelane`	`sivana, no nat`
`02:49.24`	`trelane`	`it's seeing the connection, nat cannot possibly be the issue`
`02:49.31`	`trelane`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:49.44`	`sivana`	`ya. I doubt it.. I misread 198 for 192`
`02:49.51`	`trelane`	`I'm figuring something's broken either in iax.conf or extensions.conf that's not connecting the iax into the dialplan`
`02:49.55`	`trelane`	`indeed :)`
`02:50.07`	`jizaymes`	`trelane, i was having that problem earlier today`
`02:50.10`	`jizaymes`	`i managed to fix it`
`02:50.12`	`jizaymes`	`whats your setup`
`02:50.28`	`dbsr`	`anybody able to recomend a wifi sip phone?`
`02:50.32`	`trelane`	`jizaymes, hang on and I'll paste the conf's somewhere :)`
`02:50.48`	`dbsr`	`(or do they all suck)`
`02:51.06`	`jizaymes`	`k`
`02:52.14`	`trelane`	`http://pastebin.ca/484`
`02:52.20`	`PatrickDK`	`dbsr, using wisip here`
`02:52.26`	`trelane`	`(I manually removed the username and secret from that, they are in the actual files :)`
`02:52.30`	`PatrickDK`	`it works alright, really want a multichannel one though`
`02:53.05`	`dbsr`	`PatrickDK: have any ipsec support by any chance?`
`02:53.13`	`PatrickDK`	`nope`
`02:53.17`	`dbsr`	`(not that it really matters in the middle of the desert, i guess, but would be nice.)`
`02:53.38`	`jizaymes`	`hrm that looks good trelane`
`02:53.38`	`dbsr`	`do the cisco wifi phones support sip yet? =]`
`02:54.02`	`PatrickDK`	`doubt it, but not sure`
`02:54.27`	`trelane`	`jizaymes, I thought so as well`
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`02:56.08`	`dbsr`	`hi jerjer`
`02:56.15`	`trelane`	`anyone mind figuring out what's broken with http://pastebin.ca/484`
`02:56.20`	`JerJer`	`mooo`
`02:57.59`	`jizaymes`	`trelane, are you getting this error for in or outgoing calls`
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`02:58.46`	`trelane`	`Aug 4 17:33:50 NOTICE[163850]: chan_iax2.c:5238 socket_read: Rejected connect attempt from 198.22.67.70`
`02:58.49`	`trelane`	`incoming`
`02:58.57`	`trelane`	`I don't have a dialplan for outgoing yet`
`02:59.08`	`JerJer`	`smells like your [NuFone] type=user is wrong`
`02:59.19`	`trelane`	`JerJer, any thoughts on what it should be?`
`02:59.20`	`trelane`	`peer?`
`02:59.21`	`trelane`	`friend?`
`03:00.10`	`trelane`	`switching to peer didn't help`
`03:03.23`	`PatrickDK`	`user = incoming`
`03:03.25`	`PatrickDK`	`peer = outgoing`
`03:03.27`	`PatrickDK`	`friend = both`
`03:03.39`	`PatrickDK`	`why don't people get that?`
`03:04.04`	`bkw_`	`well peer can be incoming too`
`03:04.29`	`PatrickDK`	`kindof`
`03:04.30`	`bkw_`	`as a last ditch attempt at matching to where the call should go.`
`03:04.57`	`bkw_`	`no not kindof`
`03:05.15`	`trelane`	`still rejecting as friend`
`03:06.35`	`trelane`	`Aug 4 17:40:30 NOTICE[163850]: chan_iax2.c:5238 socket_read: Rejected connect attempt from 198.22.67.70`
`03:07.40`	`PatrickDK`	`heh, that is your total problem`
`03:07.46`	`PatrickDK`	`you redid the example`
`03:07.54`	`PatrickDK`	`it's [NuFone] not [did-incoming]`
`03:08.10`	`PatrickDK`	`in iax.conf`
`03:09.33`	`trelane`	`PatrickDK, well done`
`03:09.34`	`trelane`	`thanks`
`03:10.22`	`PatrickDK`	`I guess everyone moved to a different conf`
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`03:21.02`	`Nivex`	`I was reading on asterisk-users that the Sipura SPA-2000 was plagued with a nasty bit of background noise. Any idea if this is still a problem in the -3000?`
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`03:25.38`	`sivana`	`does anyone have a tool that will output the caller id FSK info on 2nd ring?`
`03:26.48`	`pfn`	`that's asterisk :p`
`03:27.05`	`sivana`	`is there a zap debug type thing I can do?`
`03:31.34`	`brc007`	`cwj, #moosepenis`
`03:31.44`	`\|Vulture\|`	`MOOSE PENIS!`
`03:33.55`	`cwj`	`MOOSE!`
`03:37.06`	`lwc`	`anyone using the ACD functions of *?`
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`03:43.51`	`cwj`	`yes`
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`03:48.31`	`DirtyData`	`Yo!`
`03:48.57`	`DirtyData`	`I was in here a few weeks ago, and I had inquired about Asterisks CALEA capabilities..`
`03:49.08`	`DirtyData`	`You all laughed at me..`
`03:49.31`	`DirtyData`	`But, now... FCC just ruled that VoIP MUST be Calea compliant!`
`03:49.53`	`bkw_`	`DirtyData no body laughed at you`
`03:50.01`	`bkw_`	`you can comply with CALEA with asterisk as it is now`
`03:50.12`	`bkw_`	`its accually very simple to do`
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`03:50.21`	`DirtyData`	`bkw: Asterisk comes nowhere near meeting the J standard`
`03:50.23`	`bkw_`	`just like email has to comply with CALEA`
`03:50.29`	`bkw_`	`fuck the J standard`
`03:50.35`	`bkw_`	`and fuck the FCC`
`03:50.41`	`bkw_`	`they can always tap it at the PSTN`
`03:50.48`	`bkw_`	`they are just wanting to be dicks about it`
`03:51.02`	`Corydon76-home`	`No, the FCC didn't say that Asterisk had to be CALEA compliant`
`03:51.08`	`Corydon76-home`	`Reread their decision`
`03:51.10`	`cwj`	`hmm`
`03:51.11`	`Himeko`	`fcc has no power over me`
`03:51.18`	`DirtyData`	`No asterisk.. but the providers`
`03:51.18`	`bkw_`	`no shit`
`03:51.20`	`DirtyData`	`Not`
`03:51.31`	`bkw_`	`the FCC has no power over me either`
`03:51.37`	`bkw_`	`they can all lick my shaved nads`
`03:51.47`	`Corydon76-home`	`Providers of communications which pass through the provider, yes`
`03:52.00`	`Corydon76-home`	`But not calls that go direct`
`03:52.00`	`LegendTop`	`bkw_: im gonna email michael powell your home adress`
`03:52.04`	`LegendTop`	`tell him you said that`
`03:52.09`	`DirtyData`	`Some providers are using asterisk no?`
`03:52.10`	`Himeko`	`doesn;t that get itchy bkw_`
`03:52.17`	`cwj`	`michael powell can suck my dick`
`03:52.22`	`bkw_`	`he can suck mine too`
`03:52.27`	`bkw_`	`LegendTop go for it`
`03:52.30`	`cwj`	`lol`
`03:52.55`	`bkw_`	`wtf is the J standard anyway?`
`03:53.00`	`bkw_`	`so they can tap your shit remotly/`
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`03:53.31`	`LegendTop`	`http://imprensa.net/noticias_imagens/michael%20powell.jpg`
`03:53.37`	`LegendTop`	`he looks hungry`
`03:53.54`	`DirtyData`	`Its the Justice Departments standards for Calea Compliance.. They want things their way.`
`03:54.16`	`xai`	`are people talking about the new surveillance rules?`
`03:54.29`	`bkw_`	`problem solved`
`03:54.32`	`bkw_`	`dont use the PSTN`
`03:54.34`	`bkw_`	`NEXT!!!`
`03:55.29`	`bkw_`	`DirtyData the DOJ is neither a Department nor is it Justice`
`03:55.34`	`bkw_`	`dont know how they get away with that.`
`03:55.40`	`xai`	`I think they all need a hefty paycut.`
`03:55.46`	`bkw_`	`I vote for that`
`03:55.55`	`bkw_`	`I think everyone in congress needs to live on what we all make`
`03:55.56`	`bkw_`	`for one year`
`03:56.01`	`bkw_`	`then we'll see how well shit goes`
`03:56.07`	`xai`	`And they should be neutered just to be safe.`
`03:56.11`	`cwj`	`lol`
`03:56.15`	`bkw_`	`ya`
`03:57.11`	`xai`	`I wonder if anyone up there has ever heard about this esoteric thing called ethics..`
`03:57.29`	`cwj`	`ethi who`
`03:57.36`	`bkw_`	`well with that Patriot Act they wanna tap it all`
`03:57.42`	`cwj`	`the president can't spell ethics`
`03:57.56`	`bkw_`	`no because it might piss off ole Uncle Bin`
`03:58.00`	`xai`	`He can barely spell dumass.`
`03:58.06`	`bkw_`	`its dumbass`
`03:58.10`	`LegendTop`	`eh`
`03:58.17`	`LegendTop`	`xai: you have been pwned ;P`
`03:58.25`	`xai`	`oops..`
`03:58.30`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`03:58.46`	`xai`	`pwned ?`
`03:59.06`	`LegendTop`	`http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pwned&r=f`
`03:59.09`	`DirtyData`	`http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:Mobg8YkK6CQJ:www.gliif.org/LI_standards/ANSI-J-STD-025-A.pdf+J-STD-025+&hl=en`
`03:59.18`	`DirtyData`	`The j-standard`
`04:00.22`	`JunK-Y`	`going to bed guys, see ya tomorrow`
`04:00.23`	`bkw_`	`email complies to CALEA`
`04:00.30`	`bkw_`	`why can't you guys just use app_monitor to comply`
`04:00.34`	`bkw_`	`or is that not good enuf for them?`
`04:01.14`	`DirtyData`	`You have to have ways to transport the data.`
`04:01.47`	`bkw_`	`on disk`
`04:01.48`	`DirtyData`	`call capture, Pen Register, Title III,`
`04:02.05`	`xai`	`Is anyone using asterisk on an appliance type of linux box, li?`
`04:02.10`	`DirtyData`	`bkw_: In a title III call content is needed in real time.`
`04:02.20`	`bkw_`	`zapscan them`
`04:02.25`	`bkw_`	`or zapbarge it`
`04:02.31`	`bkw_`	`my god you can set it up for them if they need it`
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`04:02.40`	`DirtyData`	`when the phone rings at suspects location, it must ring at the LEA's remote location as well.`
`04:02.42`	`bkw_`	`its not that hard... they send you a notice.. you set it up..`
`04:02.42`	`libpcp`	`Hello everyone`
`04:02.50`	`bkw_`	`DirtyData easy to do`
`04:03.20`	`libpcp`	`is anyone using CDRTool?`
`04:03.35`	`bkw_`	`so when someone gets a call it will automagically ring the LEA's office in monitor only mode..`
`04:03.39`	`bkw_`	`this shit isn't hard to comply with`
`04:04.10`	`libpcp`	`i don't know how to import or use my cdr logs to CDRTool`
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`04:04.39`	`DirtyData`	`Does anyone know if the decision also means that VoIP providers have to comply with caller-id transmission rules?`
`04:05.08`	`bkw_`	`what are those rules?`
`04:05.21`	`bkw_`	`because as far as I know they don't exist`
`04:05.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`DirtyData: reread the decision. It's very narrowly tailored`
`04:06.12`	`DirtyData`	`bkw_: caller=id is regulated by FCC.`
`04:06.26`	`bkw_`	`how?`
`04:06.31`	`Corydon76-home`	`Besides, if you're seeking legal advice, I'd suggest that you hire an attorney`
`04:06.43`	`bkw_`	`I would like to know what rules he speaks of`
`04:07.13`	`Corydon76-home`	`DirtyData: I think you mean ANI, not caller*id`
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`04:08.00`	`DirtyData`	`http://www.epic.org/privacy/caller_id/fcc_final.html`
`04:08.05`	`Corydon76-home`	`caller*id is an interpretation of the privacy flags, ANI, plus a database lookup`
`04:08.34`	`xai`	`script/replay will do it.`
`04:08.42`	`xai`	`I never used replay though.`
`04:09.06`	`bkw_`	`DirtyData asterisk can already honor that`
`04:09.06`	`bkw_`	`or so I'm told`
`04:09.52`	`DirtyData`	`I know asterisk can, I was curious if VoIP providers are required to follow Fcc regulations regarding callerid now.. But, I dont think so.. as Carydon pointed out.`
`04:10.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`They're required to follow telecommunications regulations when interfacing to the PSTN`
`04:11.08`	`Corydon76-home`	`Otherwise, VOIP is not a telecommunications service`
`04:11.24`	`Corydon76-home`	`Hence, VOIP is not subject to telecommunications regulations`
`04:11.37`	`Corydon76-home`	`including the callerid rule you referred to`
`04:12.07`	`DirtyData`	`Corydon: there are a few carriers that disregard regulation, even when interfacing to the PSTN.`
`04:12.32`	`Corydon76-home`	`At their own peril, if they're inside the US`
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`04:14.36`	`Corydon76-home`	`I myself have made a few errors when sending ANI across the PSTN (quickly corrected, though)`
`04:15.04`	`Corydon76-home`	`Like the time I sent a 3 digit ANI across the PSTN (my internal extension)`
`04:15.50`	`gryn`	`heck i send out 'dominoes pizza' as my caller id :P`
`04:16.09`	`Corydon76-home`	`gryn: on what, a PRI?`
`04:16.13`	`gryn`	`yeah`
`04:16.31`	`Corydon76-home`	`I've never successfully sent a cid name across the PSTN`
`04:16.47`	`gryn`	`we are using cbeyond, there's no restrictions.`
`04:16.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`I can set the ANI, but not the cid name`
`04:16.59`	`gryn`	`(beside's length).`
`04:17.14`	`Corydon76-home`	`gryn: you think there was a restriction on the line when I sent a 3-digit ANI?`
`04:17.36`	`gryn`	`Corydon76-home: no, i'm just saying maybe your carrier didn't allow setting the name, only the number.`
`04:18.07`	`daork`	`in nz, we can only set the CLID to a number in our pool`
`04:18.23`	`gryn`	`Corydon76-home: cbeyond can (and has) restricted us setting both the name and number at times (normally they just mess up our subscription settings).`
`04:18.31`	`Corydon76-home`	`I was fairly surprised when my 3 digit internal extension showed up on the cid of my cell phone`
`04:18.41`	`gryn`	`Corydon76-home: give me your number, i'll send you some phone cid.`
`04:18.54`	`gryn`	`er phony`
`04:19.03`	`Corydon76-home`	`gryn: maybe tomorrow`
`04:19.11`	`gryn`	`ok`
`04:19.34`	`gryn`	`i've got it setup to send out 'mcdowell's' right now :) (from the eddie murphy movie).`
`04:20.30`	`pfn`	`coming to amnerica`
`04:20.42`	`gryn`	`yeah that one.`
`04:20.48`	`gryn`	`and a 555 number.`
`04:21.22`	`gryn`	`yeah it's set to: 404-555-1234`
`04:23.13`	`gryn`	`why can't i ever remember the name of that movie. it's odd.`
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`04:25.26`	`gryn`	`ah, ops alert, hide the beer.`
`04:25.32`	`jmhunter`	`screw sbc... im gonna drop them for sonic.net when i move (im such a hipocrit because ill still have to have an SBC line`
`04:25.39`	`jmhunter`	`hahha`
`04:25.54`	`jmhunter`	`since when am i ops?`
`04:26.26`	`file`	`Requested information is unavailable.`
`04:26.26`	`gryn`	`i see the @, you can't fool me copper.`
`04:26.44`	`gryn`	`file: what chu tallkin about willis?`
`04:26.55`	`file`	`gryn, Please restate the question.`
`04:27.16`	`gryn`	`file: learn to read english better, mr. turing.`
`04:27.28`	`file`	`gryn, Unable to comply.`
`04:27.30`	`jmhunter`	`hahah copper thats funny`
`04:27.44`	`gryn`	`:)`
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`04:28.17`	`LegendTop`	`border0-hou`
`04:28.26`	`LegendTop`	`house border router?`
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`04:42.57`	`jmhunter`	`and its ppp0 for pptp / pppoe and vlan1 for everything else.. confirmed for u`
`04:54.17`	`BBS-`	`if I want to use an asterisk server just as a voicemail box for an existing pbx that communicates via dtfm, should I be purchasing fxo or fxs modules to put in the asterisk box? fxo sounds right, but I want to make sure before I buy something.`
`04:54.42`	`LegendTop`	`FXO, most likely`
`04:54.51`	`LegendTop`	`unless you are going to integrate via a PRI`
`04:54.57`	`BBS-`	`no, I'm not`
`04:55.09`	`LegendTop`	`then FXO`
`04:55.25`	`BBS-`	`I'm temporarily replacing an 8 year old voicemail computer that communicates via 8 pots lines with the pbx`
`04:55.43`	`daork`	`BBS-: you want FXO for connection to the phone company, and FXS for connection with your handsets (if you will use the existing POTS handsets)`
`04:55.53`	`LegendTop`	`8 ports, thats a fairly busy VMS`
`04:56.02`	`daork`	`oh, voicemail only. yeah, FXO`
`04:56.05`	`LegendTop`	`daork: he is only using * as a VMS`
`04:56.07`	`LegendTop`	`;D`
`04:56.09`	`BBS-`	`I just want to make sure that from asterisk's point of view, the pbx is an external line, not an analog phone :)`
`04:56.32`	`daork`	`yeah yeah, feed me coffee and i'll read better ;P`
`04:56.34`	`BBS-`	`but sounds like I'm going down the right path, thanks, just wanted to check before wasting money :)`
`04:56.44`	`LegendTop`	`what VMS are you replacing?`
`04:57.06`	`LegendTop`	`and btw, im not sure if you can light message lamps on the legacy pbx instruments`
`04:57.11`	`daork`	`anyone used the *<->RT stuff?`
`04:57.22`	`BBS-`	`replay plus by active voice (circa 1996), connecting to an nec neax 1400`
`04:57.23`	`LegendTop`	`daork: i didn't get far`
`04:57.32`	`LegendTop`	`BBS-: nooo, /me likes replay plus`
`04:57.35`	`LegendTop`	`for some odd reason`
`04:57.43`	`daork`	`LegendTop: what held you up?`
`04:57.50`	`LegendTop`	`BBS-: running OS/2, with a half assed HTML interface, right?`
`04:58.21`	`BBS-`	`LegendTop - I was going to attempt to plug the lamp port of the vm box into one of the fxo ports on asterisk and see if I can figure out what the lamp process is, and mimick it on asterisk to make the lamps work`
`04:58.26`	`BBS-`	`no, this is the dos 6.22 version`
`04:58.27`	`LegendTop`	`daork: the AGI script wasn't talking to anything, and i couldn't see any way to debug it`
`04:58.29`	`BBS-`	`6.70`
`04:58.43`	`LegendTop`	`BBS-: hahaa, suck`
`04:58.44`	`daork`	`LegendTop: interesting. well, i'll let you know when I get it going :)`
`04:59.00`	`daork`	`LegendTop: now, to do battle with RT's dependencies some more..`
`04:59.06`	`LegendTop`	`BBS-: you should be able to view the port activity in repartee, and see what it sends to the ports`
`04:59.22`	`LegendTop`	`daork: i have RT installed, but the AGI doesn't talk to anything`
`04:59.24`	`LegendTop`	`shrug`
`04:59.26`	`BBS-`	`this is pre-repartee`
`04:59.39`	`jmhunter`	`anyone know what sbc's cancellation fee for dsl is... (contract)`
`04:59.42`	`LegendTop`	`BBS-: yeah, sorry, s/repartee/replay`
`04:59.50`	`BBS-`	`but I don't have any better ideas except for buying a $4k turnkey system that would be useless when the phone system is upgraded when the customer moves in a few months`
`05:00.05`	`BBS-`	`but the replay plus box is fucked, no one will support it, and we need soemthing now`
`05:00.10`	`LegendTop`	`BBS-: BTW, cisco's UNITY VMS, is replay running on win2k :-O`
`05:00.18`	`BBS-`	`heh`
`05:00.36`	`BBS-`	`yeah, I saw that cisco bought unity when I was researching all of this`
`05:00.44`	`LegendTop`	`yup`
`05:02.00`	`BBS-`	`but as for the lamp messages, I do see the replay box displaying stuff like 9,259 and stuff like that on the lamp port, but that's just dialing the extension. not sure what it's doing once the extension picks up to say "hey, turn your lamp on"`
`05:02.30`	`LegendTop`	`ok, i know on meridian integration, you see what it sends`
`05:02.44`	`LegendTop`	`but i guess you are doing analog integration, right?`
`05:02.46`	`BBS-`	`maybe it does and I wasn't paying close enough attention, I'll look at it closer`
`05:02.59`	`lwc`	`CWJ how did you apply ACD with *?`
`05:03.02`	`BBS-`	`of course, I'm guessing it's also going to be somewhere in the cfg files if I want to sift through them`
`05:03.12`	`LegendTop`	`yeah, it will be`
`05:03.15`	`LegendTop`	`do you have the CDs?`
`05:03.20`	`BBS-`	`yeah, this is all analog, you're going to tell me I can just plug a phone into it and watch the numbers dial? :)`
`05:03.37`	`BBS-`	`cd's? who distributed software on cd's in 96? :)`
`05:03.38`	`LegendTop`	`if you had a digigrabber, you could`
`05:03.40`	`LegendTop`	`ugh`
`05:03.43`	`BBS-`	`windows 95 shipped on floppy :)`
`05:03.44`	`LegendTop`	`floppys?`
`05:03.48`	`BBS-`	`you got it`
`05:03.49`	`BBS-`	`heh`
`05:03.58`	`LegendTop`	`when you load it, it _should_ ask you what kind of switch you have`
`05:04.07`	`LegendTop`	`those switches are defined in files on the floppys`
`05:04.11`	`daork`	`BBS-: my copy came on CD. you could choose, IRC.`
`05:04.15`	`daork`	`IIRC*`
`05:04.16`	`BBS-`	`yeah, I'm sure it's there somewhere`
`05:04.17`	`LegendTop`	`one for Nortel SL1, one for Meridian, one for NEC, etc etc etc`
`05:04.37`	`BBS-`	`daork - ok, well, when this was purchased, they didn't have a cd-rom in the vm machine :)`
`05:04.37`	`LegendTop`	`this is going back a few years, so i could be wrong`
`05:04.49`	`BBS-`	`I'm sure you're right, I'm sure it's in there`
`05:05.06`	`BBS-`	`it's just finding it and understanding whatever arkane notation it's written in in these files`
`05:05.44`	`LegendTop`	`BBS-: i still have about 100lbs of active voice manuals somewhere`
`05:05.54`	`BBS-`	`hehe`
`05:06.21`	`BBS-`	`don't suppose you know off hand what format the voicemails and prompts are saved in?`
`05:06.36`	`LegendTop`	`proprietary, afaik`
`05:06.37`	`BBS-`	`since you seem to know active voice stuff well`
`05:06.40`	`BBS-`	`figures`
`05:06.40`	`jmhunter`	`gsm`
`05:06.43`	`jmhunter`	`bbs`
`05:06.45`	`LegendTop`	`but i think there IS a way to download them`
`05:07.13`	`BBS-`	`jmhunter - thanks. would be nice to be able to save stuff`
`05:07.15`	`LegendTop`	`BBS-: at least on the newer repartee stuff`
`05:07.24`	`LegendTop`	`jmhunter: on the replay, or on *?`
`05:07.26`	`BBS-`	`could be the same, I'll certainly try`
`05:07.31`	`jmhunter`	`i have the vm's save in wav49, it looks just like a wav to applications but it is like 10% of the size`
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`05:07.42`	`jmhunter`	`* sorry`
`05:07.43`	`gryn`	`anyone speak dutch? Ik ben even een broodje aan het verorberen.`
`05:07.47`	`jmhunter`	`i wasnt paying attaention`
`05:07.48`	`BBS-`	`oh`
`05:09.12`	`CoaxD`	`gryn: ICH BIN WEIDER HEIR!@#`
`05:09.13`	`BBS-`	`I guess I can toss a file through g-spot and see if it can figure it out`
`05:09.23`	`BBS-`	`if anything`
`05:09.32`	`BBS-`	`but I suspect you're right re: proprietary stuff`
`05:09.33`	`gryn`	`CoaxD: i don't speak it, that was an instant message from a friend on his way out.`
`05:10.33`	`LegendTop`	`BBS-: and please tell me your password isn't $ANDY?`
`05:10.34`	`CoaxD`	`gryn: Heh :)`
`05:10.45`	`BBS-`	`uh, no...`
`05:10.46`	`gryn`	`CoaxD: so do you know?`
`05:10.48`	`LegendTop`	`hehe`
`05:10.56`	`CoaxD`	`gryn: Do i look dutch?!#$`
`05:11.05`	`gryn`	`CoaxD: no, but you sound german! :)`
`05:11.08`	`CoaxD`	`gryn: hahahaha.`
`05:11.16`	`CoaxD`	`gryn: I am not german. nor can i adequately fake one.`
`05:12.23`	`gryn`	`CoaxD: damn, fooled again!`
`05:13.20`	`CoaxD`	`gryn: hahahaha.`
`05:13.29`	`CoaxD`	`99 LUFT BALLONS`
`05:13.33`	`daork`	`heh`
`05:14.18`	`gryn`	`eind kaptain kirt!`
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`05:14.47`	`daork`	`the English version says 'red balloons', why doesn't the German?`
`05:14.57`	`BBS-`	`I already placed the order, and begged in the comment field, but does Digium usually ship same-day for overnight orders?`
`05:14.59`	`gryn`	`i don't know.`
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`05:15.38`	`CoaxD`	`BBS: I did that once`
`05:15.42`	`CoaxD`	`BBS: They had it to me overnite`
`05:15.45`	`CoaxD`	`BBS: And they shipped that day`
`05:15.50`	`BBS-`	`cool, thanks`
`05:15.55`	`CoaxD`	`BBS: I really needed the product, otherwise would've waited the extra day`
`05:15.58`	`BBS-`	`would make my life easier if I can work over the weekend`
`05:16.05`	`CoaxD`	`BBS: Yeah, i hearya.`
`05:16.12`	`BBS-`	`hehe`
`05:17.00`	`LegendTop`	`BBS-: so what is wrong with the replay, is it down entirely?`
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`05:17.48`	`BBS-`	`LegendTop - it's not releasing ports properly. some voicemail calls just get stuck until the ports are reset`
`05:17.58`	`BestOfAllWorlds`	`kewl`
`05:17.58`	`LegendTop`	`ugh`
`05:18.00`	`BestOfAllWorlds`	`my first time here`
`05:18.07`	`BBS-`	`Active Voice said it's not supported, and go screw myself essentially :)`
`05:18.08`	`BestOfAllWorlds`	`hey people`
`05:18.21`	`BBS-`	`and it's 2 4-port isa cards, and both are doing it`
`05:18.26`	`BBS-`	`so it's not the card`
`05:18.31`	`LegendTop`	`BBS-: it does this when people call from outside to leave a message?`
`05:18.37`	`LegendTop`	`or on internal calls as well?`
`05:18.40`	`BBS-`	`outside or internal to leave a message`
`05:18.51`	`LegendTop`	`ok, so its not telco related`
`05:19.00`	`BBS-`	`I can make it happen consistently if I leave a message and hang up before it stops recording`
`05:19.18`	`LegendTop`	`there is a max silence setting in there`