| 00:00.08 | pfn | are you certain? have you been able to do a packet sniff from outside your network? :p |
| 00:00.44 | sesho | my e1 card is sending SABME every fucking second |
| 00:00.46 | sizban | mitchel; what's up with that friend vs. peer type ? |
| 00:00.58 | sizban | pfn; no, but i'll move my asterisk server local and do that next :) |
| 00:01.01 | mitchel | i don't know, but it's the only way i could get it to work |
| 00:01.08 | mitchel | don't put them together |
| 00:01.09 | pfn | friend/peer is generally interchangeable in SIP.conf |
| 00:01.13 | plungerboy | run ethereal |
| 00:01.15 | pfn | type=user is worthless, more or less |
| 00:01.18 | mitchel | it won't work for some reason |
| 00:01.26 | yruf | freind allows things like SIP/port/exten dialing i think |
| 00:01.35 | pfn | yruf as does peer |
| 00:01.44 | yruf | oh well so much for that idea |
| 00:01.45 | yruf | :D |
| 00:01.46 | *** join/#asterisk scud (~scud@12-218-70-19.client.mchsi.com) |
| 00:02.10 | pfn | http://demo-w3.gofti.com/astapp/chan-sip?entry=broadvoice-p2 |
| 00:02.28 | mitchel | psh my conf files nicer, just cause i don't have a web interface =/ |
| 00:02.37 | pfn | nicer shmicer :p |
| 00:02.48 | mitchel | yours is too simple |
| 00:02.53 | mitchel | no fancy tabs |
| 00:02.55 | mitchel | nothing |
| 00:02.56 | mitchel | =/ |
| 00:03.08 | pfn | if I ever figure out an elegant interface I'll use xml to buildup web forms |
| 00:03.12 | pfn | but in the meantime, I get textareas |
| 00:03.21 | mitchel | i'll beat you to it ;) |
| 00:03.25 | mitchel | first i'm making a client |
| 00:03.29 | mitchel | pfn who uses your pbx? |
| 00:03.36 | pfn | my home system is just me |
| 00:03.39 | jmhunter | pfn does |
| 00:03.45 | pfn | and my fiancee in vietnam |
| 00:03.47 | pfn | she dials into it |
| 00:03.48 | pfn | heh |
| 00:03.50 | pfn | to get to me |
| 00:03.52 | mitchel | you serious? |
| 00:03.57 | mitchel | why so far away.... |
| 00:04.03 | pfn | who knows |
| 00:04.10 | pfn | anyway |
| 00:04.13 | pfn | yeah, my system is just me |
| 00:04.23 | pfn | I have an office system, too, which is 5 users on it |
| 00:04.33 | mitchel | all that extra electricity cost to run a comp 24/7 for just a singl ephone line |
| 00:04.47 | pfn | my computers all run 24/7 anyway :p |
| 00:04.48 | pfn | always have |
| 00:04.50 | mitchel | i'm excited, my office system is almost finished |
| 00:04.54 | mitchel | soon as the new buildings are done |
| 00:05.00 | mitchel | i'll have all 33 phones working in their full glory! =) |
| 00:05.12 | pfn | no extra 'puters were involved in setting up * |
| 00:05.12 | mitchel | all ciscos too |
| 00:05.27 | mitchel | oh thats right you don't use windows |
| 00:05.31 | pfn | says who? |
| 00:05.33 | pfn | of course I use windows |
| 00:05.38 | pfn | my workstation, htpc and laptop are all XP |
| 00:05.51 | pfn | my firewall/router and linux box are obviously linux |
| 00:05.54 | mitchel | no i was kidding, someone earlier said not to use windows at all |
| 00:06.14 | yruf | some ppl use what works for them |
| 00:06.17 | yruf | ;D |
| 00:06.20 | pfn | indeed, windows works for me |
| 00:06.24 | *** join/#asterisk sizban (~wrl@pluto.express.org) |
| 00:06.25 | sizban | that was fun. |
| 00:07.04 | pfn | jmhunter you check out the cdr filtering crap yet? heh |
| 00:07.10 | pfn | I need to add sorting in there |
| 00:07.16 | pfn | too lazy |
| 00:07.17 | yruf | heh |
| 00:07.18 | pfn | don't need it |
| 00:07.32 | pfn | that is until I sell it.... |
| 00:07.35 | yruf | im contemplating the best way to handle cw/3way on a single zap |
| 00:07.35 | pfn | bleh |
| 00:07.42 | yruf | i see some sort of macro |
| 00:07.44 | pfn | don't bother with either :p |
| 00:07.52 | pfn | callwaiting/3-way sucks on zap |
| 00:08.09 | PatrickDK | heh |
| 00:08.13 | PatrickDK | that would be a pain |
| 00:08.24 | PatrickDK | no way to direct it down different dialplan paths |
| 00:08.44 | yruf | thats where i ran into problems |
| 00:08.56 | yruf | ;/ |
| 00:08.57 | PatrickDK | I just canceled all that crap off my phonelines |
| 00:09.03 | PatrickDK | didn't need it, never used it |
| 00:09.12 | yruf | then again dring sucks too |
| 00:09.22 | yruf | or maybe its bellsouth |
| 00:09.33 | pfn | yeah, I need to reevaluate the services on my phone line |
| 00:09.49 | pfn | if the additional packages overwhelm the discount to my dsl |
| 00:10.20 | sizban | mitchel; did you have both of those sections in your config together? both the friend & peer section ? |
| 00:10.30 | yruf | i dont bother with dsl from the telco anymore |
| 00:11.15 | Damin | sizban: You don't need a friend and a peer. You need either a "friend", or a "user" and a "peer" |
| 00:11.31 | yruf | it took them 4 years to give static ip's |
| 00:11.51 | PatrickDK | odd, voicemail failed today for some reson |
| 00:12.03 | yruf | of course when it was bridged.. their dhcp servers were super easy to get to req the same ip |
| 00:12.24 | sizban | damin; i've tried both ... :\ |
| 00:12.29 | pfn | :p |
| 00:12.34 | yruf | yeah |
| 00:12.40 | yruf | me too pretty much |
| 00:12.49 | yruf | maybe not 5 years |
| 00:12.51 | yruf | probably 3 |
| 00:13.09 | sizban | oooh, helelujah(sp!) |
| 00:13.11 | sizban | it fucking works! |
| 00:13.26 | sizban | i think it was my allow/disallow codecs configuration section |
| 00:13.34 | sizban | thank you so much, mitchel :) |
| 00:14.22 | mitchel | heh sizban: no problem, glad to help |
| 00:14.44 | sizban | dial-in gives me the asterisk congratulations from my extensions.conf, too! bonus! :) |
| 00:14.44 | mitchel | if my 5 hours working on that helped you in 30 then i'm happy =) |
| 00:14.51 | sizban | *rofl* indeed, thank you so so much :) |
| 00:14.53 | mitchel | damn things always take forever the first time to set up |
| 00:15.02 | sizban | i spent about an hour on it, frustrated as hell over here *g* ;) |
| 00:15.03 | pfn | eh? codecs made it work? |
| 00:15.07 | pfn | you're trippin' then |
| 00:15.17 | sizban | i figured it had to work, considering other SIP worked and my x-ten was good with BV :) |
| 00:15.18 | pfn | cuz if that were the case, you have been receiving SIP replies from broadvoice all along |
| 00:15.28 | sizban | pfn; no, just requests ... |
| 00:15.32 | pfn | your packet sniffing-fu needs much practice |
| 00:15.32 | sizban | pfn; going out to them |
| 00:15.42 | sizban | tethereal -R sip |
| 00:15.48 | sizban | also tried: tethereal port 5060 |
| 00:15.52 | pfn | can't be the case, because SIP REGISTER never specifies codec |
| 00:16.15 | sizban | i also added srvlookup=yes and qualify=500 in the general section |
| 00:16.23 | pfn | qualify doesn't do anything for registration |
| 00:16.26 | sizban | lemme figure out which it was through trial and error here ... now i'm curious :) |
| 00:16.38 | pfn | your tethereal must be busted then |
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| 00:18.35 | sizban | it was the port= and bindaddr=, actually |
| 00:18.52 | PatrickDK | bind= |
| 00:18.57 | PatrickDK | sip likes to bind to an ip |
| 00:19.06 | sizban | yet other SIP connections worked ... ? |
| 00:19.16 | sizban | right, i added bind=0.0.0.0, patrick |
| 00:19.17 | pfn | bindaddr |
| 00:19.20 | PatrickDK | dunno, are you dual homes? |
| 00:19.26 | sizban | two ethernet interfaces, yes |
| 00:19.31 | sizban | but eth0 (primary) is the real deal |
| 00:19.37 | pfn | indeed |
| 00:19.50 | pfn | your packets were probably getting sent out eth1 :p |
| 00:19.54 | pfn | hence no response |
| 00:20.03 | PatrickDK | heh, I have 4 interfaces |
| 00:20.08 | PatrickDK | just have sip one oen right now |
| 00:20.10 | sizban | pfn; yet the other SIP sessions worked ? :) |
| 00:20.22 | pfn | sizban cuz you said you went through xlite directly I imagine |
| 00:20.23 | sizban | and my tethereal was only listening on eth0 |
| 00:20.33 | pfn | no multiple interface issue there |
| 00:20.34 | sizban | pfn; no, i tried other SIP sessions to my asterisk box |
| 00:20.34 | pfn | anyway |
| 00:20.38 | sizban | pfn; free world dialup |
| 00:20.52 | pfn | anyway, your debugging-fu needs much practice little grasshopper :p |
| 00:20.58 | pfn | s/litte/young |
| 00:21.02 | sizban | pfn; hah ... funny ;) |
| 00:21.13 | sizban | i narrowed it down to the port= ... that fixes it ... what does that do ? |
| 00:21.30 | *** join/#asterisk yaboo (~jsirucka@203-213-113-146-vic.tpgi.com.au) |
| 00:21.31 | PatrickDK | port= doesn't really do much |
| 00:21.32 | pfn | it specifies the port number that SIP uses |
| 00:21.33 | PatrickDK | just changes port |
| 00:21.43 | PatrickDK | should be 5060, unless your really really bored |
| 00:21.47 | sizban | would it have been trying to go out on a different one, otherwise? |
| 00:21.50 | sizban | without that directive in there ? |
| 00:21.52 | PatrickDK | or running many asterisks on the same box |
| 00:21.55 | sizban | hmm |
| 00:21.56 | PatrickDK | nope |
| 00:22.09 | sizban | funky. |
| 00:22.12 | *** join/#asterisk Mike (~mike@201.135.48.70) |
| 00:25.17 | *** join/#asterisk cp5 (~cp5@dsl093-032-237.snd1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 00:25.19 | sizban | dood ... looks like i can have multiple incoming calls via BV's SIP at the same time ... no hunt group required ... |
| 00:26.02 | pfn | of course |
| 00:28.14 | ariel_ | Hello all I am back. |
| 00:28.20 | sizban | pfn; so is there a limit to how many inward calls i can receive at the same time ? |
| 00:28.25 | ariel_ | What a strange day it's been. |
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| 00:30.20 | sivana | what does asterisk use the most, RAM or CPU or both? |
| 00:30.57 | sivana | sizban: I've heard on the mailing list people say that 50-60 concurrent calls is the max a computer can handle |
| 00:31.03 | PatrickDK | what does it use the most? or what is most critical |
| 00:31.09 | PatrickDK | it uses the most ram |
| 00:31.15 | sivana | most critical? |
| 00:31.18 | PatrickDK | but if cpu % goes too high, your fucked |
| 00:31.29 | PatrickDK | too high would be like maybe 10% or maybe less |
| 00:31.31 | HoopyCat | CPU is extremely important, especially with regards to compression |
| 00:31.47 | sivana | I see |
| 00:32.11 | PatrickDK | heh, when you don't have enough ram, it just won't work right |
| 00:32.22 | PatrickDK | if you don't ave enough cpu, it will just skip and sound odd |
| 00:32.36 | sivana | hrm.. I get choppyness during calls |
| 00:32.49 | PatrickDK | cpu, or other programs also running on the machine |
| 00:33.05 | sizban | sivana; but BV will just keep delivering them for me ? |
| 00:33.05 | HoopyCat | sivana: too little CPU, or too little bandwidth (if using voip) |
| 00:33.11 | sizban | sivana; as long as i can handle them ? |
| 00:33.24 | HoopyCat | or too much jitter, if using voip... |
| 00:33.30 | sizban | sivana; i'm surprised i don't have to pay for their premium service hunt group thingy, you know ? |
| 00:33.48 | PatrickDK | hunt group has nothing todo with multible calls |
| 00:33.54 | PatrickDK | huntgroup is totally different |
| 00:34.06 | sivana | sizban: I'm talking about the amount of concurrent calls.. cpu/ram usage.. |
| 00:34.17 | sizban | what does their hunt group do? just help to differentiate the DID called ? |
| 00:34.34 | HoopyCat | probably allows calls to fall over to other phones if the first phone is busy |
| 00:34.45 | sizban | well that's just retarded ... i can do that in asterisk :) |
| 00:34.59 | sizban | and the perl modules are going to help me kick some serious scripting ass :) |
| 00:35.10 | sizban | oh, man ... i'm so glad i found this :) |
| 00:35.40 | sizban | this is almost as good as the old BBS days *g* ;) |
| 00:35.43 | HoopyCat | sure, you can do it in asterisk, but it's complete ass if you want calls to be spread across a dozen phones in various other places and you don't have enough bandwidth to your asterisk server to pull it off. :-) |
| 00:35.47 | sizban | new stuff to explore :) |
| 00:36.08 | sizban | so who are these voip providers that let me provide my own ANI on outgoing calls ? |
| 00:36.42 | sizban | well, i'm not getting a PRI anytime soon ... too expensive :) |
| 00:36.53 | sizban | but it would be nice to route outgoing calls from internal phones with that phone's direct dial number |
| 00:40.05 | sizban | alright ... now to learn about extensions.conf :) |
| 00:41.27 | sizban | hoopycat; you have asterisk deployed for your company, i assume ? |
| 00:41.42 | sizban | i wish there was a good HOWTO-style extensions.conf guide :) |
| 00:41.49 | sizban | just to show me cool stuff i can do while exploring |
| 00:41.55 | HoopyCat | we're a regional voip/virtual pbx provider |
| 00:42.20 | sizban | regional to cleveland, too ? ;) |
| 00:42.33 | HoopyCat | nope. buffalo, rochester, and syracuse latas only. :-) |
| 00:43.58 | PatrickDK | hmm, I need a place with good solid reliable voip-pstn |
| 00:44.14 | PatrickDK | no one seems to offer reliable enough service yet |
| 00:44.42 | sizban | patrick; do you experience lots of voip outages ? |
| 00:45.33 | PatrickDK | yep, or just echo, or other annoying crap |
| 00:46.39 | HoopyCat | my home asterisk setup uses a cordless phone plugged into an ata-286 talking sip to asterisk, which is running on a 120mhz pentium with 80mb of RAM, which is also my home mail and web server... cool thing is that i can tell when i get e-mail if i'm on the phone |
| 00:46.46 | OloBola | I've got asterisk running with colinux. I have xlite installed, can I test it through my loopback or how do I play with my as?!! |
| 00:47.42 | PatrickDK | heh, my play thing is a p133, have asterisk and other program on it |
| 00:47.58 | PatrickDK | both chew up the cpu, though asterisk runs ok with some tweeks |
| 00:48.18 | PatrickDK | problem is x100p doesn't work on any of my other computers |
| 00:48.28 | HoopyCat | i get echo, choppiness, and other annoyances pretty hard-core, but you get used to it. keeps my gf from talking to her parents in saskatoon all the time, at least. |
| 00:48.35 | PatrickDK | have to use tdm400's in them |
| 00:48.47 | PatrickDK | hoopycat, that is not acceptable |
| 00:48.54 | PatrickDK | echo,choppiness or other stuff |
| 00:49.15 | HoopyCat | i'm running iax back to work, so i get around the whole x100p situation. :-) |
| 00:49.16 | PatrickDK | I have no choppiness, or echo on mine |
| 00:49.42 | PatrickDK | x100p is just for incoming calls |
| 00:49.51 | pfn | my x100p works great :) |
| 00:49.59 | HoopyCat | yeah, it's not acceptable. it's mostly laziness; i just need to get off my ass and move asterisk to a less-laden box |
| 00:50.02 | PatrickDK | ya, only in 5v pci slots though |
| 00:50.05 | *** join/#asterisk cybyc (~cyb@slip-129-37-171-144.on.ca.prserv.net) |
| 00:50.08 | PatrickDK | all my systems have 3.3v slots |
| 00:50.44 | HoopyCat | woo, kernel's done. bbiab. |
| 00:50.49 | PatrickDK | only my old crappy p133 has 5v slots |
| 00:51.35 | OloBola | I tried to telnet into 5060 but it's not open. Should colinux * be listening ? |
| 00:51.51 | pfn | no |
| 00:51.56 | pfn | telnet is tcp |
| 00:51.57 | pfn | sip is udp |
| 00:52.02 | OloBola | I see! |
| 00:53.48 | sivana | pfn: do you get random freezing up solid with FC2? |
| 00:54.05 | Null_Ptr | if i had a single digium T1 interface, how much CPU power would i need to be able to reliably make that work |
| 00:55.35 | PatrickDK | 1.4G should do it easily enough |
| 00:55.42 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPower-NO (~sew@dsl-209-205-172-111.i-55.com) |
| 00:55.44 | mitchel | null: i don't know, but i'll sell you one for $450 so you can test with it |
| 00:56.09 | Null_Ptr | well |
| 00:56.25 | Null_Ptr | i was thinking of using a 3.06ghz, so if 1.4G will work i should be okay |
| 00:56.41 | Null_Ptr | hmm |
| 00:56.55 | PatrickDK | people report using quad t1's on dual 3G |
| 00:56.56 | Null_Ptr | why are the T1 pci cards so much smaller than the 400 cards |
| 00:57.08 | Null_Ptr | are they offloading a bunch of work to the CPU? |
| 00:57.12 | PatrickDK | cause there is less shit on them |
| 00:57.23 | Null_Ptr | well less shit = less functionality? |
| 00:57.24 | PatrickDK | they offoad everything to the cpu, on both cards |
| 00:57.41 | PatrickDK | no, one t1 interface = 1 t1 interface chip/filters/.... |
| 00:57.51 | PatrickDK | 4 pstn = 4 pstn chips/filters/.... |
| 00:58.13 | ManxPower-NO | The 4-port cards are based on a very old design. Pretty much everything except the formfactor are new, of ocurse. |
| 00:58.27 | Null_Ptr | hmm |
| 00:58.38 | pfn | sivana no, I haven't seen that yet |
| 00:58.41 | ManxPower-NO | ..er... of course. |
| 00:58.42 | Null_Ptr | so like putting 4 quad T1 cards in any existing server would overload it then |
| 00:58.44 | pfn | sivana but I only have ztdummy loaded |
| 00:58.49 | Null_Ptr | if 1 quad T1 will be marginal on a dual 3G |
| 00:59.05 | ManxPower-NO | Null_Ptr: It depends on what you are doing with the card? |
| 00:59.06 | PatrickDK | well, people have done it |
| 00:59.19 | PatrickDK | just not recommented if you start using asterisk at full power |
| 00:59.22 | sivana | pfn: what is ztdummy? |
| 00:59.24 | sivana | simulator? |
| 00:59.26 | PatrickDK | or if your just using it for inet access |
| 00:59.27 | Null_Ptr | i want to do outbound calling with it, call people & play a message and hang up |
| 00:59.29 | pfn | ztdummy is usb timer |
| 00:59.40 | ManxPower-NO | If you are doing all ulaw and your calls are long then you can prolly do a 4-port card in less than a 3Ghz machine. |
| 00:59.40 | Null_Ptr | that's about all i want to do with it |
| 00:59.55 | Null_Ptr | what does my calls being long have to do with it? |
| 00:59.59 | Null_Ptr | also, what's ulaw? |
| 01:00.01 | pfn | null_ptr better not be for telemarketing :p |
| 01:00.03 | sivana | pfn: so you don't have a digium card in it? |
| 01:00.07 | PatrickDK | less setup/shutdown processing |
| 01:00.09 | Null_Ptr | pfn: reminders regarding appointments |
| 01:00.10 | ManxPower-NO | Null_Ptr: Call setup uses a lot of CPU. |
| 01:00.18 | Null_Ptr | ic |
| 01:00.19 | pfn | null_ptr you need 4 T1's to do that??? |
| 01:00.20 | pfn | :p |
| 01:00.24 | ManxPower-NO | and causes a LOT of chatter if you are using a PRI |
| 01:00.27 | Null_Ptr | pfn: no, i just want to know the limits it can scale to |
| 01:00.28 | pfn | sivana not in the fc2 box |
| 01:00.33 | ManxPower-NO | I don't think non-PRI causes a lot of chatter. |
| 01:00.34 | Null_Ptr | pfn: i really just need 4 pstn |
| 01:00.34 | pfn | indeed |
| 01:01.08 | Null_Ptr | umm |
| 01:01.10 | ManxPower-NO | Null_Ptr: The codec you use will usually be the determining factor. |
| 01:01.17 | mitchel | hey null, can you send me birthday reminders? |
| 01:01.24 | Null_Ptr | manx: how do i know what codec to use? is there a website about this? |
| 01:01.33 | ManxPower-NO | Null_Ptr: ulaw or alaw |
| 01:01.35 | Null_Ptr | mitchel: sure, for the right fee i will do whatever you want |
| 01:01.41 | ManxPower-NO | For T-1 use ulaw for E-1 use alaw |
| 01:01.52 | mitchel | i've got a nice smile, will that work? |
| 01:01.59 | mitchel | it'll show my *appreciation* |
| 01:03.15 | sizban | so broadvoide will allow a practically unlimited amount of simultaneous incoming calls ... what about simultaneous outgoing calls on the same SIP profile/channel ? |
| 01:03.20 | ManxPower-NO | Null_Ptr: Scaleing is a topic that comes up again and again and there is simply NO good way to determine the max capicity of an asterisk server. |
| 01:03.22 | sizban | does anyone know what the industry norm is for that ? |
| 01:03.23 | *** join/#asterisk pointer-gaim (~pointer@adsl-068-213-001-010.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 01:03.49 | mitchel | sizban: blah on that |
| 01:03.51 | *** join/#asterisk khb (~phoenix@ool-43516e13.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 01:03.54 | mitchel | i asked, they said 2 channels |
| 01:03.58 | mitchel | so one and call waiting |
| 01:04.00 | mitchel | something like that |
| 01:04.11 | Null_Ptr | what do you mean by "chatter" |
| 01:04.24 | ManxPower-NO | Since each broadvoice call takes 80k/s you don't want a lot of calls at the same time. |
| 01:04.31 | pfn | indeed |
| 01:04.36 | pfn | goddamn broadvoice and ulaw only |
| 01:04.37 | pfn | fuckers |
| 01:04.39 | sizban | mitchel; you're talking about outbounds ... you verified that inbounds are unlimited, right ? |
| 01:04.40 | mitchel | well manx, actually i dont' see why you wouldn't |
| 01:04.43 | ManxPower-NO | Null_Ptr: PRI call setup requires a lot of info to be exchanged between the telco and the server. |
| 01:04.50 | sizban | pfn; why don't you like ulaw? |
| 01:04.51 | pfn | sizban I've gotten up to 5 simultaneous |
| 01:04.58 | pfn | cuz, ulaw eats up bandwidth like no tomorrow |
| 01:04.59 | mitchel | ok guys imagine this, you have a server at a datacenter, solid oc3 connection + 1 broadvoice account |
| 01:04.59 | sizban | pfn; simultaneous outbounds ? |
| 01:05.03 | mitchel | then you isntall asterisk + IAX |
| 01:05.07 | mitchel | and resell minutes |
| 01:05.08 | pfn | simultaneous inbound |
| 01:05.10 | mitchel | on your unlimited account |
| 01:05.14 | mitchel | why the hell not |
| 01:05.23 | pfn | mitchel cuz they'll can your ass quick |
| 01:05.24 | pfn | heh |
| 01:05.24 | ManxPower-NO | mitchel: You'll be kicked by broadvoice as soon as they notice. |
| 01:05.30 | Null_Ptr | so by chatter you dont mean it like interferes with other calls or they can hear noise or something, you just mean it eats CPU % and there would be some upper limit of capability before it would fail to do something |
| 01:05.33 | mitchel | yea but they wouldn't know |
| 01:05.35 | ManxPower-NO | Rember "unlimited" does NOT mean unlimited. |
| 01:05.40 | pfn | mitchel of course they know |
| 01:05.41 | PatrickDK | pfn, if ya want,I could setup a proxy, and convert to gsm for testing :) |
| 01:05.42 | mitchel | just by your high usage |
| 01:05.52 | sizban | well broadvoice gets paid for calls delivered into their network, right ? :) |
| 01:05.54 | ariel_ | pfn you have gotten 5 calls out of one bv account? or 5 inbound from one account? |
| 01:05.55 | mitchel | blah it doesn't say in the contract i can't resell minutes |
| 01:06.01 | pfn | ariel 5 inbound |
| 01:06.01 | ManxPower-NO | Null_Ptr: Pretty much. There have been discussions on the mailing lists. you ARE on the mailing lists, right? |
| 01:06.07 | sizban | 5 inbound from one BV account ... does that sounds right ? |
| 01:06.14 | mitchel | i can't get more then one outbound |
| 01:06.23 | mitchel | i.e. i call, then i have to wait 15 -20 seconds till i can recall |
| 01:06.23 | Null_Ptr | manx uh :) |
| 01:06.27 | mitchel | so it "resets" itself |
| 01:06.34 | sizban | aah*nod* |
| 01:06.41 | sizban | mitchel; but you do have unlimited inwards, right ? |
| 01:06.55 | Null_Ptr | manx: is there a website that archives past mailing list discussions? |
| 01:07.06 | sizban | i lit up 5 lines at one time ... i hope it's like that across the board :) |
| 01:07.10 | iCEBrkr | sizban: You don't even know what the heck you're doing and you're already scheme'n... |
| 01:07.11 | pfn | I haven't tried to see how many inbound I could get through fonality yet |
| 01:07.29 | sizban | man, if i knew i was going to have this much fun, i would've made my way to the computer store for a microphone while they were still open :) |
| 01:07.30 | pfn | arguably much much more |
| 01:07.31 | pfn | heh |
| 01:07.33 | sizban | icebrkr; i'm full of ideas! ;) |
| 01:07.44 | pfn | but fonality isn't working with oob dtmf for me yet |
| 01:07.51 | iCEBrkr | sizban: I was the same way when I discovered Asterisk. |
| 01:08.05 | sizban | i need an asterisk + LNP/WLNP capable provider ... |
| 01:08.06 | pfn | when I discovered asterisk I ran and ordered up a tdm400p :p |
| 01:08.09 | sizban | so i can give them my cell number :) |
| 01:08.24 | mitchel | sizban: frys is still open |
| 01:08.26 | pfn | none of this headset bullshit |
| 01:08.34 | sizban | mitchel; i'm in cleveland :) |
| 01:08.35 | pfn | but I still want plantronics cs50 |
| 01:08.42 | sizban | maybe walmart, tho ... |
| 01:08.45 | mitchel | i'll overnight you one for $100 |
| 01:08.49 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 01:09.02 | sizban | mitchel; funny ;) |
| 01:09.04 | mitchel | and i'll personally deliver it for $1500 |
| 01:09.16 | sizban | FXS == line-side, right ? |
| 01:09.22 | pfn | yes |
| 01:09.38 | mitchel | is it possible to drive from california to cleveland and back in 12 hours..hmm |
| 01:09.40 | pfn | ooh, best buy has 'em |
| 01:09.42 | sizban | so that's kinda like those motorola voip->analog converters ? |
| 01:09.46 | pfn | mitchel fly home skillet |
| 01:09.46 | ManxPower-NO | sizban: FXS = provides ring and dialtone |
| 01:09.51 | pfn | sizban nothing like it |
| 01:09.58 | pfn | sizban well, kinda |
| 01:10.00 | pfn | but not exactly |
| 01:10.01 | ManxPower-NO | FXO = expects to receive ring and dialtone |
| 01:10.02 | iCEBrkr | sizban: My only link to PSTN runs through my linux box... I have a Grandstream in my office and a Sipura 2000 for my cordless. |
| 01:10.08 | sizban | why not ? what's different about it, other than it's sitting in a linux box as opposed to on an ethernet cable ? :) |
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| 01:10.25 | sizban | icebrkr; you still have POTS coming in from the telco? |
| 01:10.34 | sizban | icebrkr; not just 100% voip ? |
| 01:10.42 | iCEBrkr | sizban: Yea, but I don't have it running into any phone.. |
| 01:10.55 | iCEBrkr | sizban: Sure.. Every call comes in and goes out via Asterisk. |
| 01:11.02 | sizban | icebrkr; do you think voip's realiable enough to go 100% with it ? |
| 01:11.13 | sizban | wrt the providers you've seen ? |
| 01:11.15 | mitchel | ok heres the thing, i can get it there in roughly 40 hours, mapquest says it's a 35 hour and 45 minute drive, but i'm factoring in some sleep time, bathroom breaks, and pit stops for food and getting gas |
| 01:11.15 | iCEBrkr | sizban: My dial-plan routes calls accordingly.. |
| 01:11.23 | ManxPower-NO | sizban: I think it is as long as you stick on your own network only and use QoS |
| 01:11.29 | iCEBrkr | sizban: Anything local goes out PSTN.. LD goes out Voicepulse. |
| 01:11.41 | mitchel | i will get that microphone to you within 48 hours, i can do it |
| 01:11.43 | sizban | *rofl,mitchel* ;) |
| 01:11.47 | pfn | damn, best buy doesn't have any cs50's in stock |
| 01:12.00 | sizban | icebrkr; how much are you paying for voicepulse ? |
| 01:12.06 | iCEBrkr | sizban: It's all prepaid.. |
| 01:12.10 | sizban | aah |
| 01:12.12 | mitchel | thats my driving plan |
| 01:12.14 | iCEBrkr | sizban: So I just dump money on the account when I need to. |
| 01:12.28 | sizban | i've heard nufone is pretty inexpensive, too |
| 01:12.35 | iCEBrkr | sizban: and its like 0.029 / minute. |
| 01:12.36 | mitchel | nufone has mean people |
| 01:12.42 | sizban | icebrkr; have you figured out how to make your ANI what you want on outbounds ? |
| 01:12.46 | PatrickDK | voip is nice, works good here at the business and other business I know of |
| 01:12.48 | mitchel | 2.0 from what i last heard |
| 01:12.50 | sizban | mitchel; and a bland webpage ;) |
| 01:12.56 | iCEBrkr | sizban: I set it to my CallerID. |
| 01:13.08 | sizban | icebrkr; right, but you can set that yourself? |
| 01:13.21 | sizban | icebrkr; so i could originate voip calls and make them appear from my cell phone w/o porting my cell number? |
| 01:13.22 | iCEBrkr | Sure. I'm not sure if it's passed correctly on the other end tho. |
| 01:13.25 | sizban | hmm |
| 01:13.28 | iCEBrkr | I haven't really tested it |
| 01:13.30 | sizban | well correct parsing is part of it ;) |
| 01:13.41 | sizban | i have a cell w/ caller id if you wanna try ;) |
| 01:14.06 | iCEBrkr | It's really no importance to me, since I really don't care to spoof my CallerID |
| 01:14.11 | ariel_ | ok folks it's time to go and spend time with the family. Wife is calling for everyone to come and watch tv together. |
| 01:14.19 | iCEBrkr | awwww |
| 01:14.20 | sizban | hey, what was that LD/number-to-dial u were talking about in nooss, icebrkr? |
| 01:14.30 | sizban | i'm still local to cleveland if you have an asterisk config somewhere :) |
| 01:14.37 | ManxPower-NO | and sorta not single |
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| 01:15.02 | iCEBrkr | sizban: Once it answers press 2.... then when it askes for a name of a club.. type in 'wis' |
| 01:15.11 | sizban | oh, man ... look up a club! |
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| 01:15.22 | iCEBrkr | yea.. just like MovieFone. |
| 01:15.28 | sizban | hehe :) |
| 01:15.40 | sizban | i'm trying for MOD(a), but it's not working |
| 01:15.42 | iCEBrkr | it's a FLIP'N PAIN IN THE ASS |
| 01:15.47 | iCEBrkr | Of course not. |
| 01:15.54 | iCEBrkr | CUz it's too much flip'n work to record all that shit |
| 01:15.56 | sizban | well why not ? :) |
| 01:16.11 | iCEBrkr | haha |
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| 01:16.26 | iCEBrkr | oops |
| 01:16.31 | sizban | "you have selected" [click] |
| 01:16.45 | iCEBrkr | Yea, if the mailbox doesn't exist.. There's issues |
| 01:17.01 | sizban | so does this thing have difficulty parsing DTMF ? |
| 01:17.03 | iCEBrkr | It's obviously not finished. But it's a good start.. It's just a concept AGI |
| 01:17.08 | sizban | right, right :) |
| 01:17.13 | sizban | how's the DTMF parsing, tho ? |
| 01:17.24 | pfn | too much to record what shit? |
| 01:17.43 | iCEBrkr | pfn: I wrote up a system that acts like MovieFone. |
| 01:17.50 | pfn | indeed |
| 01:17.53 | iCEBrkr | pfn: But it's for night clubs/bars |
| 01:18.07 | sizban | icebrkr; i'd use this thing all the time if you could get it 100% ;) |
| 01:18.08 | pfn | why not adapt app_directory |
| 01:18.15 | ManxPower-NO | Realtime info on which chicks are at which clubs? |
| 01:18.22 | sizban | bar owners could post schedules and stuff, and people could dial in to see what's going on and where :) |
| 01:18.30 | iCEBrkr | pfn: I started rewriting app_directory, but it wasn't managable. |
| 01:18.35 | iCEBrkr | sizban: Right. |
| 01:18.45 | sizban | manx; they're all with me ... *g* ;) |
| 01:18.50 | iCEBrkr | pfn: I mean, having to maintain voicemail.conf etc. |
| 01:19.09 | iCEBrkr | pfn: Cuz I had it working that way the first time through. |
| 01:19.10 | PatrickDK | that is what sql is for :) |
| 01:19.16 | iCEBrkr | PatrickDK: Exactly. |
| 01:19.22 | pfn | icebrkr you maintain another db |
| 01:19.30 | pfn | but you can utilize much of the functionality in app_directory |
| 01:19.37 | iCEBrkr | pfn: Oh, yea, for sure.. |
| 01:19.39 | pfn | app_clubdirectory :p |
| 01:19.39 | Mike | why do i get this -- Got SIP response 400 "Bad Request" back from 2 |
| 01:19.53 | Mike | the 2 is the ip address |
| 01:19.55 | iCEBrkr | pfn: actually.. appNoNDirectory.... NoN = NightOutNow |
| 01:20.08 | pfn | indeed |
| 01:20.24 | iCEBrkr | It was just easier to have the AGI fetch and play the files. |
| 01:20.40 | iCEBrkr | Since all the clubs are already in a MySQL DB |
| 01:20.56 | iCEBrkr | Like 70 of them.. I'd just have to sit and record all their info. |
| 01:21.10 | pfn | agi yuck |
| 01:21.14 | pfn | you could easily do it in an app :p |
| 01:21.34 | iCEBrkr | pfn: with an app that hooked directly into mysql. sure. |
| 01:21.41 | pfn | sure, easy :p |
| 01:21.46 | iCEBrkr | libmysqlclient w00t |
| 01:21.48 | pfn | actually, make use of res_odbc in your app |
| 01:21.52 | iCEBrkr | actually, it's been awhile... |
| 01:21.56 | iCEBrkr | ahh yea |
| 01:21.58 | pfn | then you can use a generic db interface |
| 01:22.03 | iCEBrkr | So it's more of a wrapper.. yup |
| 01:22.32 | iCEBrkr | pfn: Damn you.. you have me thinking now... |
| 01:22.42 | pfn | indeed |
| 01:22.46 | iCEBrkr | I'm NOT going to start hacking on this tonight.. <== Gotta keep telling myself this. |
| 01:23.07 | iCEBrkr | I'm trying to have a night that I'm not coding something! |
| 01:23.15 | iCEBrkr | Lately, it's nearly impossible |
| 01:23.18 | sizban | alright ... i need to get some food and a microphone from wal-mart |
| 01:23.19 | sizban | bbl :) |
| 01:23.21 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 01:23.30 | iCEBrkr | Bill is a spazz! |
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| 01:25.55 | pfn | hmm, I wonder if I can splice a cable and make my own poe injector from a cisco power cube |
| 01:26.11 | iCEBrkr | a who? |
| 01:26.17 | bkw_ | yes you rng |
| 01:26.28 | pfn | just splice some wires into a jack |
| 01:26.35 | pfn | that way don't have to have an additional ugly wire coming out of the phone |
| 01:26.39 | Moc | pfn, you can build a PoE for cisco |
| 01:26.50 | pfn | I'm looking for simplest, least ugly method |
| 01:27.04 | pfn | using a cisco cube + some crimped cables sounds pretty ideal |
| 01:27.23 | Moc | pfn: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Cisco+POE |
| 01:27.27 | Moc | wiki has everything |
| 01:27.27 | pfn | I want a plantronics cs50 |
| 01:27.27 | pfn | heh |
| 01:27.43 | mitchel | pfn: it works too |
| 01:27.56 | pfn | moc that has nothing to do with making my own poe brick :p |
| 01:27.58 | mitchel | but don't ever pitch the idea to a client of custom POE injectorys |
| 01:28.07 | nitram | pfn: cisco power injectors for APs work too with 7960 |
| 01:28.08 | mitchel | you'll be eating your words while crimping all the cables |
| 01:28.21 | pfn | custom poe = pay more for labor |
| 01:28.23 | pfn | less on hardware |
| 01:28.30 | pfn | of course, my labor rate is much higher than the cost of the hardware :p |
| 01:28.31 | mitchel | nope |
| 01:28.40 | pfn | I'm saying if I were to mention that idea |
| 01:28.41 | mitchel | they are like $30 for the real thing and $30 for the fake thing |
| 01:29.11 | PatrickDK | pfn, not always |
| 01:29.20 | PatrickDK | pay more for hardware since it's not bulk |
| 01:29.26 | PatrickDK | but pay less to markup pricing |
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| 01:30.23 | Moc | pfn, get soundpoint ip phone, they use PoE of the box, |