irclog2html for #asterisk on 20040926

`00:00.00`	`lightn`	`it also seems to cause an echo on the line`
`00:00.16`	`*** join/#asterisk file[laptop] (~joshnet@mctn1-6580.nb.aliant.net)`
`00:00.17`	`file[laptop]`	`how rude`
`00:00.19`	`file[laptop]`	`my router just reset itself`
`00:00.20`	`lightn`	`I could believe the other phones are a problem...`
`00:00.45`	`puzzled`	`anyone have any luck with chan_capi under kernel 2.6?`
`00:00.45`	`lightn`	`I've been searching around google, tried the tx rx gain adjustments...`
`00:01.06`	`fuzzycat`	`not u obviously puzzled :P`
`00:01.33`	`doughecka`	`~spell capicetince`
`00:01.34`	`jbot`	`possible spellings for capicetince: capacitance capacitances capstones capstone captaincy capacities carpetings capacitive copacetic capstans capacitance's Capitan's acceptance capstone's`
`00:02.20`	`fuzzycat`	`doughecka: you spell bad!`
`00:02.33`	`ManxPower`	`lightn: playing with gain won't help your zap error message`
`00:02.50`	`doughecka`	`haha`
`00:03.07`	`Chuji`	`file[laptop]: must have been a Crisco`
`00:03.49`	`lightn`	`ManxPower: thought it helped my echo though`
`00:04.07`	`fuzzycat`	`echo though echo though echo though`
`00:04.09`	`ManxPower`	`lightn: It can help with echo. also try echotraining=600 or 800`
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`00:05.51`	`lightn`	`I'm getting static on the line now too, wondering about the quality of my phone line...`
`00:06.05`	`file[laptop]`	`so, it turns out by pasting text from one SSH session to another... I can crash my primary router`
`00:06.20`	`ManxPower`	`file[laptop]: Uh, it might be time to get a new router`
`00:06.20`	`epoch`	`hahaha`
`00:06.30`	`doughecka`	`file[laptop]: or a new admin`
`00:06.50`	`ManxPower`	`Maybe your router is too small. Us people with big routers don't have that problem.`
`00:07.43`	`file[laptop]`	`a Belkin router`
`00:08.01`	`epoch`	`belkin makes routers!?`
`00:08.16`	`puzzled`	`:O`
`00:08.34`	`puzzled`	`epoch: they did that years ago iirc`
`00:08.40`	`fuzzycat`	`puzzled: pay for an isdn line here and a quadbri and I will`
`00:08.50`	`puzzled`	`that's evil`
`00:09.12`	`*** join/#asterisk brc_ (~brian@brc.base.supporter.pdpc)`
`00:09.25`	`epoch`	`haha`
`00:11.02`	`sauber`	`Wonka: it works`
`00:11.32`	`Wonka`	`it segfaults when the remote hangs up before the local does`
`00:11.41`	`Wonka`	`i would not call that "it works"`
`00:11.56`	`sauber`	`it works here`
`00:11.59`	`fuzzycat`	`just hangup first`
`00:12.01`	`fuzzycat`	`:P`
`00:12.02`	`sauber`	`hehe`
`00:12.04`	`Wonka`	`lol`
`00:12.07`	`sauber`	`yeah nice solution`
`00:12.20`	`sauber`	`youre using rc3?`
`00:12.21`	`Wonka`	`someone mailed isdn4linux ml because of that...`
`00:12.32`	`Wonka`	`latest, at least`
`00:12.44`	`Wonka`	`also latest chan_capi for the other isdn card`
`00:12.47`	`pointer-gaim`	`ManxPower: have you had time to play with your IP500?`
`00:13.12`	`sauber`	`you can mix chan_misdn and chan_capi?`
`00:13.14`	`ManxPower`	`ip500? Not really. They are all deployed.`
`00:13.26`	`Wonka`	`sauber: the hfc card uses chan_misdn`
`00:13.35`	`Wonka`	`sauber: the AVM A1 uses chan_capi`
`00:13.44`	`sauber`	`wont you get a problem with stacks then?`
`00:14.15`	`Wonka`	`erm...`
`00:14.26`	`Wonka`	`maybe i should tell that the HFC card works in NT mode`
`00:14.30`	`Wonka`	`no layer 3 there`
`00:14.38`	`file[laptop]`	`I think my router needs a chill pill`
`00:14.42`	`Wonka`	`and no capi stack`
`00:14.47`	`sauber`	`ok`
`00:15.24`	`Docelm0`	`Whats a good carrier the offer's the same services as NuFone or VoicePulse?`
`00:16.26`	`m-00kie`	`shouldnt "Dial(IAX2/usr/ext,20)" cause the dialer to timeout after 20 seconds if not answered?`
`00:17.38`	`ManxPower`	`m-00kie: No. If you are running a recent CVS it should say something like "20 is not a valid option silly!"`
`00:17.57`	`m-00kie`	`i have 1.0.0 but it doesnt say anything like that no`
`00:17.59`	`ManxPower`	`Dial(TECH/user@peeroruser/exten,opts,timeout)`
`00:18.10`	`ManxPower`	`if you don't have opts then it's ,,20`
`00:18.16`	`m-00kie`	`ah ok thanks`
`00:18.36`	`ManxPower`	`Wait!`
`00:18.39`	`ManxPower`	`I'm wrong.`
`00:18.40`	`ManxPower`	`it's`
`00:18.48`	`ManxPower`	`Dial(TECH/user@peeroruser/exten,timeout,opts)`
`00:18.50`	`Chuji`	`Docelm0 : Broadvoice?`
`00:18.56`	`ManxPower`	`I dunno what's wrong, d-`
`00:18.58`	`m-00kie`	`.. so it should work then?`
`00:18.59`	`ManxPower`	`I dunno what's wrong, m-00kie`
`00:19.19`	`b0ef`	`is there some kind of externip for iax protocol aswell?.`
`00:19.56`	`drumkilla`	`no, you don't need it for iax`
`00:20.23`	`b0ef`	`so it seems, but how else would it know the external ip?`
`00:20.38`	`drumkilla`	`well, it's in the way iax was designed`
`00:20.50`	`drumkilla`	`with SIP, places to send the call are all over the place`
`00:20.57`	`drumkilla`	`with IAX, it's in 1 place - the IP header`
`00:21.11`	`file[laptop]`	`SIP is fun.`
`00:21.20`	`b0ef`	`yes, I understand that, but that doesn't help if the ip header has an internal ip address`
`00:21.34`	`drumkilla`	`it gets changed at the NAT gateway`
`00:22.08`	`b0ef`	`mk, nice`
`00:22.22`	`drumkilla`	`yah`
`00:22.26`	`b0ef`	`I think I smoked to much today;)`
`00:22.33`	`drumkilla`	`ha ... well then`
`00:23.26`	`fool`	`when i am leaving voicemail, * does not 'hear' the #, rather, it records it into the message. could my * not be interpreting dtmf correctly?`
`00:23.47`	`fool`	`# being to stop the recording process.`
`00:24.09`	`h3x`	`are you using inband with a compressed codec`
`00:24.34`	`fool`	`g711 sip from cisco gateway setting dtmf to sip-notify messages`
`00:24.59`	`fool`	`but i do sip debug and dont see anything when passing the #`
`00:25.28`	`sudoer`	`hi * is for fools`
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`00:25.38`	`fool`	`yeah it is`
`00:26.22`	`h3x`	`;dtmfmode=inband ; Choices are inband, rfc2833, or info`
`00:26.30`	`h3x`	`in sip.conf`
`00:27.05`	`fool`	`ah i dont have any of that in sip.conf. will try thanks!`
`00:27.15`	`h3x`	`you probably want rfc2833`
`00:27.17`	`h3x`	`i dont know what info is`
`00:28.12`	`iCEBrkr`	`yahooie`
`00:28.40`	`*** join/#asterisk l-fy (~diana@diana.null.ro)`
`00:28.50`	`l-fy`	`Jeremy McNamara?`
`00:29.30`	`l-fy`	`i guess not`
`00:29.31`	`*** part/#asterisk l-fy (~diana@diana.null.ro)`
`00:29.55`	`file[laptop]`	`well that was rude`
`00:30.12`	`fool`	`used rfc`
`00:30.28`	`brc_`	`hello h3x`
`00:31.08`	`*** join/#asterisk FlippFlopp (~id@1-1-2-40a.hud.sth.bostream.se)`
`00:31.17`	`h3x`	`hi`
`00:31.23`	`h3x`	`brc have you used an iaxy`
`00:31.41`	`h3x`	`btw i got my internet ds3 installed`
`00:31.43`	`h3x`	`woohoo`
`00:32.41`	`b0ef`	`can someone test iax with me? - I have set iax up, but have noone to test with. Is there a iax community with a directory listing?`
`00:32.56`	`h3x`	`iaxtel`
`00:33.07`	`b0ef`	`do I have to register?`
`00:33.14`	`h3x`	`yes`
`00:33.45`	`b0ef`	`I have a thing against registering anything anywhere;) - any other way?`
`00:33.58`	`m-00kie`	`how do you control the amount of time a line rings?`
`00:34.08`	`h3x`	`if you didnt have to register then there wouldnt be no damn directory :PPP`
`00:34.14`	`m-00kie`	`the timeout value of Dial() doesnt seem to do that`
`00:34.45`	`b0ef`	`h3x: yes, but I just want to look at other people who have registered. I don't want to register just to view them`
`00:34.49`	`h3x`	`freeworld dialup is another option`
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`00:35.03`	`b0ef`	`yes, but you still need to register there too`
`00:35.05`	`h3x`	`if you dont register then you dont have a phone number`
`00:35.13`	`b0ef`	`I just need one person who I can call and talk too`
`00:35.23`	`b0ef`	`yes, I have a phone number`
`00:35.28`	`b0ef`	`you can just call me direct`
`00:37.33`	`Docelm0`	`What does: Got SIP response 481 "Subscription does not exist" back from 192.168.1.50 mean?`
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`00:38.54`	`b0ef`	`h3x: can I test iax with you?`
`00:40.00`	`ManxPower`	`To search the Asterisk mailing list archive go to www.google.com and put site:lists.digium.com in addition to your other query terms.`
`00:40.09`	`FlippFlopp`	`baaah, i can�t install asterisk :) Hate Linux ;) (and Bill)`
`00:40.25`	`b0ef`	`FlippFlopp: I spent 3 days and now I got it working;)`
`00:40.39`	`b0ef`	`just 2 h ago;)`
`00:40.50`	`FlippFlopp`	`B0ef: Cool ;), i�ve tryed in a half year :D`
`00:41.04`	`b0ef`	`FlippFlopp: hehe`
`00:41.28`	`FlippFlopp`	`b0ef: Are you running debian?`
`00:41.29`	`b0ef`	`I just read everything I got my hands on`
`00:41.36`	`b0ef`	`no, I got my own distro`
`00:41.37`	`fuzzycat`	`FlippFlopp: http://www.automated.it/asterisk/ try the bootable iso`
`00:42.05`	`FlippFlopp`	`yeah, it was fuck up my computer :D`
`00:42.15`	`fuzzycat`	`say again?`
`00:42.52`	`FlippFlopp`	`it�ll not boot up`
`00:43.06`	`FlippFlopp`	`it says [] up in the left corner`
`00:43.13`	`fuzzycat`	`what r u trying it on?`
`00:43.35`	`FlippFlopp`	`A computer? ;)`
`00:43.55`	`fuzzycat`	`yes, an Amgia I'm guessing...`
`00:44.23`	`FlippFlopp`	`No...`
`00:44.31`	`b0ef`	`can anyone set up a text extension over iax that I can test; it need only say "you are fubar", so I can test my iax setup`
`00:45.04`	`FlippFlopp`	`fuzzycat: a shuttle and a toshiba...`
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`00:45.13`	`b0ef`	`I got sip working, but I needed iax it seemed`
`00:45.56`	`fuzzycat`	`what cpu?`
`00:46.06`	`FlippFlopp`	`amd`
`00:46.14`	`fuzzycat`	`mmm... should be ok...`
`00:46.26`	`fuzzycat`	`works on all the boxes I have here...`
`00:46.35`	`FlippFlopp`	`but i think i burned the cd wrong.`
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`00:48.14`	`FlippFlopp`	`fuzzycat: You can send me a cd? ;)`
`00:48.32`	`fuzzycat`	`if you send me the $`
`00:48.35`	`Docelm0`	`What does: Got SIP response 481 "Subscription does not exist" back from 192.168.1.50 mean? Any ideas? Im getting it from the SJPhone client`
`00:49.35`	`FlippFlopp`	`how much?`
`00:49.51`	`fuzzycat`	`no idea, cost of CD + postage to.se`
`00:50.15`	`fuzzycat`	`you can paypal it to me`
`00:50.24`	`FlippFlopp`	`how much?`
`00:50.30`	`FlippFlopp`	`:)`
`00:50.55`	`fuzzycat`	`60000000 euro?`
`00:51.01`	`FlippFlopp`	`LOL ;)`
`00:51.11`	`FlippFlopp`	`0.600000000000000000? ;)`
`00:51.26`	`m-00kie`	`does anyone know how to control the number of times a line is rung in asterisk`
`00:51.26`	`fuzzycat`	`tonnes of gold`
`00:51.37`	`PatrickDK`	`timeout :)`
`00:51.42`	`PatrickDK`	`dial(,20)`
`00:51.46`	`PatrickDK`	`about 4 rings`
`00:51.55`	`m-00kie`	`timeout doesnt seem to apply to it in that way`
`00:52.05`	`PatrickDK`	`sure it does`
`00:52.07`	`m-00kie`	`i think it only occurs when theres a failure..`
`00:52.07`	`fuzzycat`	`it does`
`00:52.11`	`PatrickDK`	`20 = seconds`
`00:52.11`	`fuzzycat`	`no`
`00:52.21`	`m-00kie`	`well i set mine to 5 and it didnt fail until 1 1/2 minutes`
`00:52.25`	`PatrickDK`	`I use it to call one phone`
`00:52.33`	`PatrickDK`	`then if they don't answer, call this other phone`
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`00:52.47`	`m-00kie`	`exten => _X.,5,Dial(IAX2/usr@gw4/${EXTEN},5)`
`00:52.49`	`m-00kie`	`like that?`
`00:52.58`	`loko_`	`Anyone know who the cheapest provider is to call from the US to a UK mobile phone`
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`00:53.13`	`fuzzycat`	`is the gateway up m-00kie?`
`00:53.19`	`m-00kie`	`yes`
`00:53.29`	`fuzzycat`	`put a qualify in your iax.conf for that node`
`00:53.41`	`m-00kie`	`it has one.`
`00:53.50`	`fuzzycat`	`set to?`
`00:53.59`	`m-00kie`	`qualify=800`
`00:54.29`	`fuzzycat`	`sommats not right..`
`00:54.34`	`fuzzycat`	`but you knew that`
`00:54.34`	`m-00kie`	`?`
`00:54.44`	`m-00kie`	`well i know its not timing out :P`
`00:55.08`	`fuzzycat`	`800ms if it doesn;t meet the qualify it'll timeout... have you got a t extension?`
`00:55.21`	`m-00kie`	`i tried it yeah`
`00:55.47`	`fuzzycat`	`mmm..`
`00:55.50`	`Wonka`	`night all...`
`00:56.18`	`PatrickDK`	`mookie, what does it do?`
`00:56.45`	`FlippFlopp`	`failed to bring up eth0`
`00:57.03`	`m-00kie`	`when the dial() finally fails, it returns a busy`
`00:57.19`	`fuzzycat`	`can u see the other side too?`
`00:57.25`	`*** part/#asterisk loko_ ([WdsC6Pa0B@gambit.pit.tblive.com)`
`00:57.41`	`m-00kie`	`dont follow you`
`00:57.41`	`fuzzycat`	`ie can u ssh into the other side and see the console?`
`00:57.45`	`m-00kie`	`no`
`00:57.49`	`fuzzycat`	`shame`
`00:58.07`	`m-00kie`	`nothing's wrong with the gateway tho`
`00:58.07`	`PatrickDK`	`are you sure it's not connecting, and timing out on the other side?`
`00:58.12`	`m-00kie`	`i can make / receive calls fine`
`00:58.23`	`m-00kie`	`im trying to implement a failover if one # doesnt answer it calls another`
`00:58.50`	`m-00kie`	`the phone im testing is here.. it rings when i dial it`
`00:58.54`	`fuzzycat`	`well, that's usually just multiple dial lines, and qualify in iax.conf`
`00:58.55`	`m-00kie`	`just the timeout isnt working`
`00:59.26`	`PatrickDK`	`fuzzycat, no I thinkhe wants to use like, nufone to make outgoing calls`
`00:59.32`	`FlippFlopp`	`fuzzycat: cooperative linux console is also nice :)`
`00:59.33`	`PatrickDK`	`but have nufone timeout if they don't answer in 5 seconds`
`00:59.56`	`PatrickDK`	`dunno how you would do that, without control of the other box`
`00:59.57`	`fuzzycat`	`oh, thought he wanted redundancy..`
`01:00.20`	`m-00kie`	`im using a Sipura`
`01:00.29`	`fuzzycat`	`ahhh`
`01:00.29`	`PatrickDK`	`na, he wants to call phonenumber1, if they don't answer, call number2`
`01:00.31`	`PatrickDK`	`right?`
`01:00.31`	`fuzzycat`	`ok`
`01:00.39`	`fuzzycat`	`do your dial line...`
`01:00.40`	`pfn`	`so tired`
`01:00.45`	`m-00kie`	`right patrick`
`01:00.47`	`fuzzycat`	`then in the next priority... put`
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`01:00.53`	`fuzzycat`	`congestion`
`01:00.56`	`loko_`	`arg wrong X`
`01:01.10`	`loko_`	`Do I need to request interational calling with nufone?`
`01:01.25`	`fuzzycat`	`it may be timing out but the sipura is just waiting...`
`01:01.28`	`PatrickDK`	`then the computer, IAX2/usr@gw4 actually makes the call`
`01:01.35`	`m-00kie`	`ok`
`01:01.40`	`PatrickDK`	`you have to set that up on gw4`
`01:01.45`	`m-00kie`	`so i send congestion, itll go to n+1 afterwards?`
`01:01.58`	`fuzzycat`	`no, it'll just sit there...`
`01:02.23`	`m-00kie`	`i dont want it to do that i want it to dial another #`
`01:02.24`	`fuzzycat`	`if you want to rey 2 numbers, use 2 dials then follow it wiht a congestions`
`01:02.35`	`fuzzycat`	`dial(route1,5)`
`01:02.40`	`fuzzycat`	`dial(route2,5)`
`01:02.43`	`fuzzycat`	`congestion`
`01:02.50`	`m-00kie`	`well thats what im doing`
`01:03.00`	`m-00kie`	`whats the pastebin addr?`
`01:03.05`	`PatrickDK`	`the timeout of 5 won't work, cause the otherside is answering`
`01:03.11`	`fuzzycat`	`pastebin.ca`
`01:03.12`	`PatrickDK`	`so it thinks the call worked`
`01:03.19`	`m-00kie`	`im not answering it.. it sits there ringing`
`01:03.23`	`PatrickDK`	`but then the other side, gw4, actually dials the number`
`01:03.40`	`fuzzycat`	`yes, so if they have no timeout it'll keep ringing`
`01:03.40`	`PatrickDK`	`you need the dial(,5) on gw4`
`01:03.52`	`m-00kie`	`arg`
`01:03.59`	`PatrickDK`	`well, both really`
`01:04.17`	`fuzzycat`	`although it should work this way...`
`01:04.17`	`FlippFlopp`	`BAAH, cooperative linux console cant conect to my network.`
`01:04.18`	`m-00kie`	`so you're saying i dont have any control over this?`
`01:04.31`	`PatrickDK`	`yes`
`01:04.38`	`m-00kie`	`thats just gay`
`01:04.39`	`PatrickDK`	`you can only control if the iax2 connection works`
`01:04.49`	`PatrickDK`	`it does, so the timeout of 5 doesn't apply anymore`
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`01:05.00`	`PatrickDK`	`then the otherside dials the number, and well, you can't control that timeout`
`01:05.02`	`m-00kie`	`theres no way i can force this?`
`01:05.13`	`fuzzycat`	`no, I'm saying it should, not that it does..`
`01:05.25`	`PatrickDK`	`not that I would know of`
`01:05.39`	`fuzzycat`	`i think ur stuffed m-00kie`
`01:05.55`	`fuzzycat`	`unless you can get the other side to be helpful..`
`01:06.25`	`m-00kie`	`the other side's attendance record is as dependable as that of a crack junkie`
`01:06.28`	`FlippFlopp`	`which sip client is the best for windows?`
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`01:06.43`	`fuzzycat`	`m-00kie: that begs the question qhy are you using them`
`01:06.45`	`pfn`	`depends on what you need`
`01:06.53`	`m-00kie`	`cheap :)`
`01:06.57`	`fuzzycat`	`:D`
`01:07.05`	`FlippFlopp`	`a easy one :)`
`01:07.07`	`m-00kie`	`$0.013 / min local, $0.023/min long distance`
`01:07.14`	`fuzzycat`	`sjphone or x-lite`
`01:07.30`	`m-00kie`	`xTen isnt bad`
`01:08.03`	`FlippFlopp`	`x-lite isnt working, it is complain on my firewall :)`
`01:08.10`	`m-00kie`	`enable NAT`
`01:08.16`	`FlippFlopp`	`how? ;)`
`01:08.20`	`m-00kie`	`in its options`
`01:08.24`	`pfn`	`so fix your firewall`
`01:08.28`	`pfn`	`it handles firewalls by default`
`01:08.31`	`pfn`	`it complains what exactly`
`01:08.32`	`fuzzycat`	`flick the switch on the base of your pc`
`01:09.07`	`m-00kie`	`oh was thinking router, doh`
`01:09.38`	`m-00kie`	`ive always found a good glass of water down the floppy slot works wonders`
`01:09.45`	`fuzzycat`	`right bed time... nite all`
`01:09.51`	`FlippFlopp`	`discovered single mapped port symmetric NAT fi.....`
`01:09.55`	`loko_`	`Is there a trick to dialing international thru nufone?`
`01:10.22`	`pfn`	`011 prefix`
`01:10.29`	`pfn`	`and they need to enable your account for intl dialing`
`01:10.37`	`loko_`	`that must be why`
`01:11.01`	`loko_`	`is there email support@nufone.net?`
`01:11.04`	`pfn`	`my account was enabled for dialing intl from the getgo`
`01:11.10`	`loko_`	`hmm`
`01:11.15`	`pfn`	`but that's because I told them I wanted my account exclusively for intl calling`
`01:11.15`	`pfn`	`heh`
`01:11.17`	`loko_`	`when i call I get "that is not a valid number"`
`01:11.27`	`m-00kie`	`ok anyway..`
`01:11.29`	`Stealth_Man`	`pfn , what abut XVOIP account : ))`
`01:11.37`	`pfn`	`right, there's that, too :p`
`01:11.38`	`loko_`	`must be from my asterisk not nufone telling me that`
`01:11.40`	`pfn`	`that's still on trial :)`
`01:11.45`	`m-00kie`	`if the number times out by default, it should still automatically dial my backup number right?`
`01:11.47`	`pfn`	`again, also enabled from the getgo :)`
`01:12.09`	`pfn`	`ok, time to put my shirt back on again`
`01:12.10`	`loko_`	`what ix xvoip`
`01:12.33`	`pfn`	`need to go to a wedding reception`
`01:12.33`	`pfn`	`www.xvoip.com`
`01:12.33`	`pfn`	`or was it stealthtelecom.com or something like that`
`01:12.33`	`loko_`	`oh ok`
`01:13.10`	`loko_`	`im familiar with stelath`
`01:13.11`	`loko_`	`stealth.`
`01:13.11`	`FlippFlopp`	`how can i activate nat?`
`01:13.11`	`pfn`	`activate nat for what precisely`
`01:13.20`	`pfn`	`ok, time to wear shirt`
`01:13.20`	`pfn`	`I'm tired`
`01:13.25`	`pfn`	`need to do reception crap`
`01:13.25`	`pfn`	`bleh`
`01:13.27`	`Stealth_Man`	`loko : how come are you familiar with stealth ?`
`01:13.44`	`m-00kie`	`here's my exten line.. http://pastebin.ca/1106`
`01:13.57`	`FlippFlopp`	`Don�t ask me, someone told me to activate nat ;)`
`01:14.03`	`m-00kie`	`even after the default timeout it doesnt dial the backup #`
`01:14.30`	`loko_`	`Stealth because you tried to sell me service a long time ago =)`
`01:14.35`	`*** join/#asterisk HTTP404 (~Asteron@dialup-4.159.59.239.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net)`
`01:14.57`	`Stealth_Man`	`loko :) LOL`
`01:15.01`	`loko_`	`back in Feb I think`
`01:15.04`	`denon`	`spammer!`
`01:15.13`	`loko_`	`do you offer NYC DIDs now?`
`01:15.21`	`Stealth_Man`	`loko: our iax is working fine now`
`01:15.29`	`loko_`	`offering dids?`
`01:15.31`	`Stealth_Man`	`yes`
`01:15.34`	`Stealth_Man`	`all around us.canda`
`01:15.36`	`loko_`	`whats the IP of your server`
`01:15.39`	`loko_`	`do you have a list?`
`01:15.47`	`loko_`	`ill signup right now if you have the DIDs I want`
`01:16.11`	`loko_`	`the most important though is calling England though`
`01:16.23`	`*** part/#asterisk DrRighteous2 (SystemLoad@ool-435710b6.dyn.optonline.net)`
`01:16.25`	`m-00kie`	`he said US/canada ;)`
`01:16.36`	`loko_`	`im not asking for a england did`
`01:16.37`	`denon`	`us/canada are where the DIDs are ..`
`01:16.38`	`Darwin35`	`stealth you have dids in pittsburgh pa`
`01:16.38`	`loko_`	`i said calling`
`01:16.42`	`denon`	`outbound needs no DID`
`01:16.42`	`m-00kie`	`oh`
`01:16.57`	`loko_`	`darwin35 you didnt show today`
`01:17.15`	`Darwin35`	`loko I have no brakes on my car`
`01:17.22`	`loko_`	`oh`
`01:17.28`	`loko_`	`go into the channel`
`01:17.28`	`denon`	`brakes are for weenies.`
`01:17.31`	`Darwin35`	`and tried to get a ride but got no responce`
`01:17.32`	`loko_`	`i have something to tell you im not going to say here`
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`01:19.39`	`loko_`	`is broadvoice their own provider or do they just resell nufone and voicepulse`
`01:20.00`	`pfn`	`their own provider`
`01:20.30`	`loko_`	`thanks`
`01:20.35`	`*** join/#asterisk mogorman (~Kyle@r74h40.res.gatech.edu)`
`01:20.49`	`FlippFlopp`	`Error initializing winPCap`
`01:23.16`	`LennyT`	`kram mentioned at astricon that voicemail supports "video" ... I was wondering if anyone can confirm that?`
`01:23.53`	`pfn`	`peruse the source`
`01:24.11`	`LennyT`	`I did... app_voicemail.c`
`01:24.18`	`LennyT`	`can't find anything specific...`
`01:24.24`	`mogorman`	`well`
`01:24.30`	`mogorman`	`it is something in the future`
`01:24.36`	`pfn`	`if it doesn't look like it does only audio then it may do video :p`
`01:24.49`	`LennyT`	`true... need to try it. :)`
`01:24.57`	`mogorman`	`i dont believe the streem recording is currently in existance`
`01:25.05`	`mogorman`	`but voicemail will be changing some soon`
`01:25.15`	`LennyT`	`oh?`
`01:26.09`	`LennyT`	`any bug trackers that is talking about v-mail changes?`
`01:26.23`	`file[laptop]`	`voicemail will record the video stream, bkw mentioned it before`
`01:26.55`	`LennyT`	`cool. does it attach it to the e-mail?`
`01:27.25`	`file[laptop]`	`so I haven't a clue, but probably`
`01:27.35`	`file[laptop]`	`your guess is as good as mine`
`01:27.47`	`LennyT`	`ok... got eyebeam w/a video device... need to fire it up and try it..`
`01:28.30`	`file`	`When you give a mouse a cookie, everything looks like a nail`
`01:31.11`	`suma`	`hi`
`01:40.19`	`*** join/#asterisk SlowMo (mworkman@d226-108-3.home.cgocable.net)`
`01:44.44`	`bkw_`	`yo yo yo`
`01:44.53`	`bkw_`	`I AM FINALLY HOME!!!!`
`01:44.56`	`bkw_`	`thank god`
`01:44.59`	`bkw_`	`thought it would never happen`
`01:45.06`	`puzzled`	`than why are you not coding?!`
`01:45.07`	`denon`	`bkw: the hotel called .. you forgot your shaver`
`01:45.20`	`bkw_`	`no that must be twisted`
`01:45.21`	`denon`	`you gotta fly back and get it`
`01:45.23`	`bkw_`	`becuase I didn't take one`
`01:45.24`	`bkw_`	`:P`
`01:45.43`	`denon`	`you and twisted shared a room?`
`01:45.47`	`denon`	`now that IS twisted..`
`01:45.53`	`mogorman`	`THIS GUY`
`01:45.59`	`mogorman`	`right here`
`01:46.08`	`Docelm0`	`yes.. very much so..`
`01:46.17`	`bkw_`	`muhahahah`
`01:46.18`	`Docelm0`	`Hay brian how was the flight/`
`01:46.24`	`bkw_`	`mogorman pretty funny eh?`
`01:46.35`	`mogorman`	`always funny`
`01:47.13`	`Chuji`	`Did it clear out of there pretty fast yesterday bkw_ ?`
`01:47.16`	`bkw_`	`ok`
`01:47.23`	`mogorman`	`im still here`
`01:47.24`	`bkw_`	`need to get the irc nick to picture page up`
`01:47.27`	`Chuji`	`I didn't stay for the breakout sessions`
`01:47.31`	`mogorman`	`i bumped int o4 people from astricon`
`01:47.41`	`bkw_`	`mogorman where?`
`01:47.52`	`mogorman`	`atlanta`
`01:47.58`	`bkw_`	`oh you haven't left yet?`
`01:48.02`	`bkw_`	`I know Adam hasn't either`
`01:48.12`	`mogorman`	`no went to see some friends in atlanta`
`01:48.19`	`bkw_`	`ah`
`01:48.20`	`bkw_`	`kewl`
`01:48.24`	`Docelm0`	`Man.. Someone must like atlanta.. Ohh ya.. Jeanie is coming your way to say hi`
`01:48.26`	`bkw_`	`I think we took of that poor hotel`
`01:48.39`	`Chuji`	`nick to pic page would be good`
`01:49.58`	`NeroLabs`	`my pic used to be at http://www.goatse.cx/`
`01:50.00`	`bkw_`	`ok guys`
`01:50.01`	`NeroLabs`	`but they took it down`
`01:50.03`	`bkw_`	`I have to take a shouwer`
`01:50.05`	`mogorman`	`lol`
`01:50.06`	`bkw_`	`er shower`
`01:50.10`	`file`	`bkw_: yeah, you smell`
`01:50.14`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`01:50.25`	`denon`	`he's STILL sweating from the heat in the hotel`
`01:50.55`	`Chuji`	`denon: actually that place was a fricken icebox`
`01:50.56`	`mogorman`	`lol`
`01:51.03`	`mogorman`	`most of the time the hotel was`
`01:51.11`	`denon`	`Chuji: thats not what I heard..`
`01:51.18`	`Chuji`	`The dev meeting was like 50 degrees`
`01:51.25`	`Chuji`	`denon : You are bad`
`01:56.00`	`suma`	`good`
`01:56.27`	`suma`	`it seems more sweating things were going on in astricon than asterisk`
`01:57.36`	`bkw_`	`www.bkw.org/~brian/astricon/`
`01:59.41`	`Chuji`	`uhh, who is that giving matt the tongue?`
`01:59.57`	`bkw_`	`thats Zoa`
`02:00.15`	`bkw_`	`refresh`
`02:00.16`	`bkw_`	`more went up`
`02:00.53`	`Chuji`	`I didn't meet him there`
`02:02.36`	`SlowMo`	`hmmm`
`02:02.37`	`SlowMo`	`The domain www.goatse.cx has been suspended by the registry.`
`02:03.36`	`*** join/#asterisk \|Vulture\| (~Vulture@adsl-17-248-107.jax.bellsouth.net)`
`02:06.15`	`citats`	`bkw_: welcome back to "reality" :)`
`02:07.08`	`suma`	`brian you didn't put comments about that photos`
`02:07.25`	`suma`	`who is in that photos and where it is like that /`
`02:07.41`	`denon`	`bkw_: hmm .. were you the one who said it was weird seeing people in real life, instead of just irc?`
`02:07.46`	`denon`	`if so, maybe I did hear some of your stuff`
`02:08.25`	`denon`	`then again, I suppose that came up a lot`
`02:10.23`	`scrubb`	`has anyone here used Chanspy succesfully?`
`02:10.45`	`scrubb`	`It doesn't seem to "block" for me`
`02:10.48`	`bkw_`	`denon no that was mark`
`02:10.52`	`bkw_`	`scrubb yes I have`
`02:11.00`	`bkw_`	`ok i'm going to take a shower now`
`02:11.05`	`denon`	`bkw: ah ok`
`02:11.26`	`scrubb`	`bkw_: Iam trying to use it on an iax stream. so i give it the full channel instance defenition and it doesnt work.`
`02:12.01`	`scrubb`	`ChanSpy("OSS/dsp", "IAX2/username@111.111.111.111:4569/5")`
`02:12.25`	`scrubb`	`is that not the right syntax?`
`02:13.11`	`\|Vulture\|`	`man they always blow these hurricanes out of proportion...`
`02:13.37`	`denon`	`wouldnt it be more accurate to say the hurricanes blow the states out of proportion?`
`02:14.18`	`\|Vulture\|`	`naaa`
`02:14.25`	`\|Vulture\|`	`Im from orlando`
`02:14.31`	`\|Vulture\|`	`its nothing`
`02:14.36`	`denon`	`hey mark`
`02:14.39`	`kram`	`hi there`
`02:14.43`	`drumkilla`	`marrrrrk`
`02:14.46`	`\|Vulture\|`	`we were outside on the porch with some beers durrign the last one`
`02:14.46`	`denon`	`sounds like you were a hit`
`02:14.55`	`kram`	`i didn't hit anyone!`
`02:14.59`	`denon`	`haha`
`02:15.06`	`denon`	`no no no ..`
`02:15.44`	`scrubb`	`congrats on the success kram! Big buzz. Enjoy it!`
`02:15.54`	`denon`	`so next astricon, you'll have to interface festival with irc so we can communicate with the rest of the attendees :)`
`02:16.11`	`drumkilla`	`ha, that would get interesting ...`
`02:16.51`	`\|Vulture\|`	`foxnews is reporting "Hapless Florida" I guess we have been renamed`
`02:17.30`	`denon`	`\|Vulture\|: its the first time its happened since 1880 or so`
`02:17.47`	`*** join/#asterisk file (~file_lapt@mctn1-142166195181.nb.aliant.net)`
`02:18.01`	`\|Vulture\|`	`yea true`
`02:18.19`	`denon`	`maybe their names for you have nothing to do with the hurricanes ..`
`02:18.20`	`denon`	`<G>`
`02:18.41`	`\|Vulture\|`	`hahaha maybe its based on our voting record`
`02:18.46`	`denon`	`I mean, florida is known for .. what .. theme parks and retired snow birds?`
`02:18.50`	`denon`	`yeah, could be that too`
`02:19.01`	`*** part/#asterisk mogorman (~Kyle@r74h40.res.gatech.edu)`
`02:19.07`	`denon`	`any number of reasons to make fun of fl`
`02:19.14`	`\|Vulture\|`	`denon: yea its where kids go to play, and old people go to die`
`02:19.24`	`denon`	`isnt that on your license plates?`
`02:20.10`	`scrubb`	`any help on the chanspy thing?`
`02:21.25`	`\|Vulture\|`	`I should make that a license plate cover`
`02:21.39`	`\|Vulture\|`	`"Where the young play... and the old die"`
`02:22.19`	`znoG`	`what is the value range permitted for txgain and rxgain?`
`02:24.33`	`\|Vulture\|`	`wow.... 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 50006ms`
`02:25.21`	`scrubb`	`\|Vulture\|: avian carrier?`
`02:28.56`	`*** join/#asterisk aminorex (~tony@c66.191.69.132.dul.mn.charter.com)`
`02:29.15`	`\|Vulture\|`	`scrubb: netlogic.net out of st.louis, mo`
`02:29.35`	`\|Vulture\|`	`now Im trying to ping their own servers`
`02:29.43`	`\|Vulture\|`	`6 packets transmitted, 5 received, 16% packet loss, time 250038ms`
`02:30.06`	`*** join/#asterisk anthm (~anthmct@CPE-69-76-83-52.wi.rr.com)`
`02:30.13`	`scrubb`	`yeah, sounds like avian carrier latencies to me.`
`02:30.20`	`denon`	`\|Vulture\|: I'm getting 38ms to them`
`02:30.21`	`\|Vulture\|`	`thats horrid`
`02:30.31`	`\|Vulture\|`	`yea I think its the line`
`02:30.34`	`\|Vulture\|`	`somethings going on`
`02:30.49`	`\|Vulture\|`	`the first packet is like 4ms, then they go to hell`
`02:31.01`	`denon`	`all my packets got the same`
`02:31.21`	`*** join/#asterisk pvinci (~root@ool-18bd103c.dyn.optonline.net)`
`02:32.02`	`PatrickDK`	`18 packets transmitted, 18 packets received, 0% packet loss`
`02:32.02`	`PatrickDK`	`round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 49.596/50.704/55.212/1.734 ms`
`02:32.08`	`PatrickDK`	`looks really steady here`
`02:32.26`	`*** join/#asterisk Sivana (Sivana@Haliburton-ppp109887.sympatico.ca)`
`02:32.29`	`\|Vulture\|`	`trying to push the new * to the servers`
`02:32.51`	`Sivana`	`is there an online documentation area that defines what the functions do? ie" ast_verbose()`
`02:40.56`	`\|Vulture\|`	`has the format of zapata.conf changed?`
`02:41.04`	`\|Vulture\|`	`my old one is erroring`
`02:43.24`	`bkw_`	`got a question`
`02:43.28`	`MustDie`	`who is that smart dude by name "Drumkilla" ?`
`02:43.31`	`bkw_`	`did anyone notice anything about the 10 things slides?`
`02:43.42`	`bkw_`	`MustDie he's russel at digium`
`02:44.06`	`\|Vulture\|`	`bkw_: did 1.0.0 change the zapata.conf?`
`02:44.20`	`bkw_`	`\|Vulture\| No`
`02:44.21`	`Chuji`	`bkw_ : Notice what?`
`02:44.25`	`MustDie`	`bkw: i think i offend him in a way ;)`
`02:44.30`	`MustDie`	`2504`
`02:44.35`	`\|Vulture\|`	`hmm I updated *, zapata, and zaptel`
`02:44.46`	`\|Vulture\|`	`rebooted and Im getting "setup_zap: Unable to register channel '4'"`
`02:44.53`	`bkw_`	`that on the bottom corner of each 10 slides I put one letter.. if you cycle thru them it spells MOOSE PENIS`
`02:45.18`	`Chuji`	`No, I didn't`
`02:45.20`	`Chuji`	`haha`
`02:45.30`	`bkw_`	`Chuji most people didn't even see it`
`02:45.31`	`bkw_`	`:)`
`02:45.34`	`bkw_`	`that was kinda the point`
`02:45.34`	`Chuji`	`Cracked me up though when olle said it yesterday`
`02:45.56`	`bkw_`	`MustDie dont piss off drumkilla please`
`02:45.58`	`m-00kie`	`are you not able to dial out if you are processing an inbound call?`
`02:46.00`	`bkw_`	`i'll smack you`
`02:46.06`	`bkw_`	`Chuji I was totally SHOCKED`
`02:46.07`	`m-00kie`	`via extensions.conf`
`02:46.21`	`bkw_`	`oej said "or moose penis.." while talking about IM and asterisk`
`02:46.33`	`MustDie`	`bkw: k ;)`
`02:46.40`	`bkw_`	`MustDie you have the n option also`
`02:46.43`	`Chuji`	`He said it under his breath, but everyone caught it`
`02:47.07`	`bkw_`	`MustDie do you do agent=> lines`
`02:47.13`	`bkw_`	`or dynamic like in my sample?`
`02:47.17`	`*** join/#asterisk NormAst (norm_12_12@Toronto-HSE-ppp3678186.sympatico.ca)`
`02:47.19`	`bkw_`	`this the thing I helped you with?`
`02:47.21`	`NormAst`	`g`
`02:47.27`	`bkw_`	`you can't join a queue with nothing in it.. it just falls out`
`02:47.32`	`bkw_`	`and goes N+1`
`02:47.35`	`MustDie`	`bkw: option n will not help`
`02:47.35`	`MustDie`	`:(`
`02:47.43`	`drumkilla`	`MustDie: why do you think you offend me?`
`02:47.44`	`bkw_`	`now if you hard code the agent => lines`
`02:47.51`	`bkw_`	`and use agentcallback login`
`02:47.51`	`MustDie`	`drumkilla ;)`
`02:48.01`	`MustDie`	`bkw: that dynamic stuff`
`02:48.12`	`bkw_`	`but you dont want anyone in a queue if no agents are there to service it`
`02:48.14`	`bkw_`	`right?`
`02:48.21`	`NormAst`	`Problems using LinkSys Router and AZACALL Boxes.. One Way Audio.. any idea's?`
`02:48.24`	`MustDie`	`bkw: exactly.`
`02:48.33`	`bkw_`	`the dynamic stuff does EXACTLY that`
`02:48.40`	`MustDie`	`bkw: all queue members are dynamic`
`02:48.41`	`bkw_`	`if you try to join a queue with ZERO agents it just goes N+1`
`02:48.47`	`MustDie`	`so if eveyrbody leaves...`
`02:48.51`	`MustDie`	`callers are still in the queue`
`02:48.57`	`bkw_`	`OH IC`
`02:48.59`	`drumkilla`	`well I just put something together for that`
`02:49.03`	`bkw_`	`ya you have to kinda allow for that`
`02:49.12`	`drumkilla`	`like that other guy was saying, some people would want that behaviour`
`02:49.15`	`bkw_`	`thats more policy than code`
`02:49.27`	`MustDie`	`drumkilla: but i think we need an option for that`
`02:49.33`	`bkw_`	`ya would be nice`
`02:49.34`	`drumkilla`	`want to test it for me?`
`02:49.40`	`bkw_`	`but its rude to hangup on people ya know`
`02:49.44`	`Chuji`	`drumkilla : what did you patch?`
`02:49.47`	`bkw_`	`berry berry rude`
`02:49.52`	`drumkilla`	`yeah ...`
`02:49.53`	`drumkilla`	`hahaha`
`02:49.53`	`MustDie`	`nah, it redirects it to voice mail in the next step`
`02:49.54`	`drumkilla`	`THIS GUY`
`02:49.58`	`bkw_`	`THIS GUY!!!`
`02:50.02`	`bkw_`	`RIGHT HERE!@!!`
`02:50.02`	`drumkilla`	`but yeah, it would just go to the next priority`
`02:50.14`	`drumkilla`	`i didn't know ANYYYY C code before ... ASTRICON!`
`02:50.15`	`MustDie`	`so 2 assholes were sitting in queue for 4 hours last friday :(`
`02:50.16`	`file`	`hello muffin`
`02:50.28`	`bkw_`	`drumkilla before asterisk you ninny`
`02:50.37`	`drumkilla`	`yeah, but that's my version`
`02:50.49`	`MustDie`	`bkw: and these people were complaining to me about it :(`
`02:51.31`	`Chuji`	`I just have an AGI that checks if the queue is open`
`02:51.48`	`drumkilla`	`well the question is after you join the queue`
`02:51.54`	`drumkilla`	`if while you are waiting, all agents leave`
`02:52.06`	`file`	`silly agents`
`02:52.10`	`bkw_`	`oh so no i'm bkw "loveya"`
`02:52.11`	`bkw_`	`er`
`02:52.11`	`drumkilla`	`there would be an option to remove callers if that happens`
`02:52.16`	`bkw_`	`bk loveya`
`02:52.18`	`MustDie`	`i think option like "ejectonempty=yes" whould be nice`
`02:52.18`	`drumkilla`	`there it is`
`02:52.23`	`file`	`eject!`
`02:52.25`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`02:52.29`	`MustDie`	`yup`
`02:52.40`	`Chuji`	`heh`
`02:52.43`	`kram`	`hehe`
`02:52.43`	`bkw_`	`but wonders what kram erects`
`02:52.52`	`file`	`dirty dirty minds`
`02:52.53`	`Chuji`	`ejectulate`
`02:52.54`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`02:52.59`	`kram`	`you should make it ejeculateonempty`
`02:53.01`	`bkw_`	`I did say something funny when I was talking`
`02:53.01`	`kram`	`lol`
`02:53.04`	`kram`	`oops`
`02:53.04`	`drumkilla`	`this is #asterisk !!!`
`02:53.07`	`kram`	`that should have been in #asstricks`
`02:53.08`	`drumkilla`	`not #asstricks !`
`02:53.08`	`kram`	`sorry`
`02:53.15`	`drumkilla`	`:p`
`02:53.19`	`bkw_`	`they said my font was too small.. and I needed to make it bigger... and I said "Its always about the size"`
`02:53.28`	`bkw_`	`while I was doing my res_config talk`
`02:53.29`	`MustDie`	`bkw: size no matter ;)`
`02:53.43`	`bkw_`	`it felt like a bad verizon comercial`
`02:53.50`	`file`	`lol`
`02:53.57`	`bkw_`	`had to kick twisted out of the chair`
`02:53.58`	`drumkilla`	`these communications geeks can't work a mic`
`02:54.01`	`bkw_`	`and use it.. "Can you hear me now?"`
`02:54.02`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`02:54.04`	`bkw_`	`it was funny`
`02:54.12`	`bkw_`	`drumkilla dude..`
`02:54.24`	`bkw_`	`THINK ABOUT IT`
`02:54.48`	`bkw_`	`holy hell lots of new stuffs on the bug tracker`
`02:54.51`	`bkw_`	`WITH PATCHES`
`02:54.55`	`bkw_`	`how nice`
`02:55.09`	`file`	`NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE`
`02:55.14`	`drumkilla`	`hotness`
`02:55.30`	`drumkilla`	`patches turn me on`
`02:55.45`	`Chuji`	`I think we covered plenty about the bug tracker at *con`
`02:55.45`	`Sivana`	`is there an online doc which explains the functions.. ie ast_verbose?`
`02:57.04`	`bkw_`	`Sivana that is like SOOO simple`
`02:57.08`	`bkw_`	`Sivana lets look at the code`
`02:58.18`	`bkw_`	`Sivana open logger.c`
`02:58.23`	`Sivana`	`ok`
`02:58.39`	`Sivana`	`is there no list.. alphabetically?`
`02:58.45`	`drumkilla`	`no ... want to make one?`
`02:58.52`	`bkw_`	`then`
`02:58.53`	`bkw_`	`include/asterisk/options.h`
`02:59.13`	`bkw_`	`include/asterisk/options.h:#define VERBOSE_PREFIX_1 " "`
`02:59.14`	`bkw_`	`include/asterisk/options.h:#define VERBOSE_PREFIX_2 " == "`
`02:59.14`	`bkw_`	`include/asterisk/options.h:#define VERBOSE_PREFIX_3 " -- "`
`02:59.14`	`bkw_`	`include/asterisk/options.h:#define VERBOSE_PREFIX_4 " > "`
`02:59.24`	`JamesDotCom`	`did any of the tutorials at astricon get recorded by any chance?`
`02:59.33`	`bkw_`	`JamesDotCom they all did`
`02:59.35`	`drumkilla`	`i saw a video camera in all of them`
`02:59.41`	`bkw_`	`I did too`
`02:59.47`	`JamesDotCom`	`ohh`
`02:59.50`	`bkw_`	`who ever recorded me owes me money`
`02:59.50`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`02:59.53`	`Sivana`	`interesting`
`02:59.56`	`JamesDotCom`	`does anyone know if theyve been put online yet?`
`03:00.01`	`JamesDotCom`	`hahah`
`03:00.02`	`bkw_`	`doubt it`
`03:00.08`	`bkw_`	`I think they need to make a DVD`
`03:00.10`	`file`	`hrm MadTV`
`03:00.15`	`bkw_`	`Astericon 2004 the DVD Box Set`
`03:00.20`	`bkw_`	`er Astricon`
`03:00.34`	`JamesDotCom`	`haha`
`03:00.34`	`JamesDotCom`	`i'd pay for that`
`03:00.48`	`NormAst`	`m`
`03:00.49`	`NormAst`	`me`
`03:00.51`	`NormAst`	`to`
`03:00.59`	`drumkilla`	`i'd pirate it`
`03:01.07`	`bkw_`	`drumkilla you ninny you can't say that`
`03:01.08`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`03:01.11`	`bkw_`	`SHHHHHHH`
`03:01.14`	`drumkilla`	`:)`
`03:01.34`	`Chuji`	`/join astwarez`
`03:01.43`	`Chuji`	`/join #astwarez`
`03:01.44`	`scrubb`	`hey bkw_ all clean?`
`03:02.17`	`NormAst`	`Oh yea.. I saw the G729 codec on #astwarez`
`03:02.28`	`Chuji`	`haha, yeah good place for it`
`03:03.47`	`drumkilla`	`kram, you're not away!`
`03:03.51`	`drumkilla`	`you're right next to me!`
`03:04.00`	`Chuji`	`tmi`
`03:04.22`	`bkw_`	`honestly you guys do not need to touch it`
`03:04.34`	`\|Vulture\|`	`hmmm just lost contact with my miami server...`
`03:04.47`	`bkw_`	`\|Vulture\| see what warezed g729 codecs can do to you`
`03:04.54`	`bkw_`	`er warez`
`03:04.57`	`bkw_`	`fark I can't type`
`03:04.59`	`bkw_`	`i'm still tired`
`03:05.03`	`drumkilla`	`me too ...`
`03:05.06`	`\|Vulture\|`	`haha`
`03:05.07`	`file`	`warezed G729 codecs are bad mmmk? they can give you bugs.`
`03:05.11`	`file`	`and make your asterisk itch`
`03:05.12`	`drumkilla`	`but yeah, anyone watching, don't touch it`
`03:05.18`	`bkw_`	`and an itchy asterisk is bad`
`03:05.19`	`\|Vulture\|`	`Im just trying to update to 1.0.0`
`03:05.30`	`file`	`indeed`
`03:05.57`	`NormAst`	`Anyone using AZATEL boxes (Ambit,AZACALL) with asterisk?`
`03:06.35`	`kram`	`i did finally post something`
`03:06.39`	`kram`	`but that's all i'll say on it`
`03:06.43`	`kram`	`i'll let it drop`
`03:07.45`	`\|Vulture\|`	`wow... road trip to miami... sucks`
`03:09.10`	`NormAst`	`You know you could always make asterisk ONLY work with the Dig. Codec`
`03:09.21`	`pvinci`	`How can I track down why an AGI doesnt run?`
`03:10.16`	`kram`	`agi debug`
`03:11.03`	`pvinci`	`ok. I get this when my agi gets called: Sep 25 23:10:09 NOTICE[36881]: chan_iax2.c:2442 iax2_read: I should never be called!`
`03:11.15`	`Sivana`	`bkw: I get it.. you can't include cdr_mysql.c as you did with cdr_odbc.c because of GPL rules`
`03:11.35`	`Stealth_Man`	`kram: who is the creator of Meeme video support option ? can you clarify something for me ?`
`03:11.39`	`Stealth_Man`	`what exactly -v does ?`
`03:11.46`	`MustDie`	`i missed all the fun :(`
`03:12.12`	`bkw_`	`Sivana BINGO`
`03:12.15`	`pvinci`	`asterisk*CLI> agi debug`
`03:12.15`	`pvinci`	`No such command 'agi' (type 'help' for help)`
`03:12.16`	`bkw_`	`the odbc layer is LGPL`
`03:12.20`	`bkw_`	`we dont hard link against it`
`03:12.23`	`bkw_`	`so we are fine`
`03:12.36`	`bkw_`	`and my main motivation was due to the MySQL GPL drama`
`03:12.48`	`file`	`silly sleep`
`03:13.04`	`Stealth_Man`	`bkw: are you still awake ? :)) go sleep, you should be tired now like dog !`
`03:13.06`	`Stealth_Man`	`:)`
`03:13.51`	`Sivana`	`I see... can I update the addon with a new cdr_mysql? my new one is much cleaner and better organized`
`03:14.05`	`Stealth_Man`	`so who can clarify -v video support in MEetME, any ideas please !`
`03:14.29`	`bkw_`	`check your codecs`
`03:14.36`	`bkw_`	`twisted try again`
`03:14.51`	`twisted`	`bkw`
`03:14.53`	`twisted`	`pay attention`
`03:14.58`	`twisted`	`i've been trying several times`
`03:15.23`	`file`	`now now you two, place nice`
`03:15.25`	`file`	`er play`
`03:15.28`	`bkw_`	`I have iax2 debug on`
`03:15.54`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`03:15.56`	`bkw_`	`I know why`
`03:15.57`	`bkw_`	`hold please`
`03:16.10`	`file`	`Your call is important to us, please continue to stay on the line.`
`03:16.14`	`NormAst`	`....`
`03:16.15`	`NormAst`	`...`
`03:16.21`	`NormAst`	`your are number 5 on hold..`
`03:16.31`	`file`	`Your call will be answered in the order of which it was received.`
`03:16.34`	`NormAst`	`your called will be answered in 10 minutes`
`03:16.57`	`NormAst`	`MOH`
`03:17.48`	`file`	`Please continue to stay on the line.`
`03:17.55`	`NormAst`	`MOH`
`03:18.07`	`file`	`you know you've lost it when...`
`03:18.11`	`PatrickDK`	`Our next suicide bomb will be with you shortly`
`03:18.55`	`scrubb`	`bkw_: can you help me with the chanspy app? When I pass it the full IAX2 channel name it doesn't error or anything, but the line eventually times out "t" extension.`
`03:19.13`	`scrubb`	`and I never hear the spy'ed channel.`
`03:19.34`	`NormAst`	`I like the ZapScan app... :)`
`03:20.10`	`PatrickDK`	`zapscan doesn't work well when you have sip channelbanks`
`03:20.19`	`NormAst`	`PRI... :)`
`03:20.37`	`PatrickDK`	`pri doesn't work on channel banks`
`03:20.39`	`drumkilla`	`ha`
`03:21.51`	`file`	`Dave.... DAVE`
`03:22.20`	`NormAst`	`How do I fix one way audio on sip to sip calls when both AU are behind a Linksys Router?`
`03:22.20`	`file`	`it's my birthday soon`
`03:22.41`	`file`	`9 days to go`
`03:22.58`	`NormAst`	`more like 8 days 32 minutes..`
`03:23.03`	`scrubb`	`file: whoohoo! getting the drivers license this year?`
`03:23.05`	`scrubb`	`;-)`
`03:23.28`	`Connor_`	`NormAst, You don't`
`03:23.32`	`file`	`scrubb: eh who knows`
`03:23.51`	`NormAst`	`They can call out on the pri just fine. Two way audio.`
`03:24.10`	`ManxPower`	`NormAst: SAME router?`
`03:24.28`	`ManxPower`	`NormAst: Have you tried canreinvite=no? Have you searched the mailing list archives?`
`03:24.33`	`Connor_`	`NormAst: Problem is with NAT`
`03:24.43`	`ManxPower`	`Have you put disallow=all and allow=ulaw (NO other allow= lines)?`
`03:24.48`	`scrubb`	`aha! I knew he wasn't _really_ gone.`
`03:24.53`	`file`	`kram: you're too active tonight, you should hide`
`03:24.54`	`NormAst`	`ManxPower: Same brand.. Two different locations`
`03:25.14`	`NormAst`	`Don't want to do a Canreivite=no as I don't want the RTP handled by Asterisk.`
`03:25.43`	`NormAst`	`ManxPower: Disallow=all and allow=ulaw`
`03:25.45`	`ManxPower`	`NormAst: You don't have a choice in your configuration`
`03:25.55`	`Sivana`	`where is verbose outputted?`
`03:25.59`	`Connor_`	`NormAst: Use STUN and config the boxes correctly for nat.`
`03:26.02`	`bkw_`	`Sivana the CLI`
`03:26.09`	`bkw_`	`and the messages file`
`03:26.14`	`Sivana`	`ok.. so both?`
`03:26.27`	`NormAst`	`It's not working correctly with STUN.. Tried using stun.fwdnet.net...`
`03:26.36`	`ManxPower`	`If you want two endpoints to be behind different NAT routers then you MUST use canreinvite=no or use one of the several NAT related fixes. STUN server, SIP Prosy (SER software) or (maybe) use SIP aware routers. This is not a trivial thing.`
`03:26.40`	`Connor_`	`What ATA's are you using?`
`03:26.40`	`scrubb`	`bkw_: lil help?`
`03:27.05`	`Sivana`	`verbose_options is the number of vvvvv?`
`03:27.07`	`NormAst`	`azacall ...www.azatel.com`
`03:27.21`	`Sivana`	`err.. option_verbose`
`03:27.23`	`bkw_`	`scrubb with what?`
`03:27.35`	`scrubb`	`bkw_: chanspy doesn't feel like spying.`
`03:27.35`	`bkw_`	`Sivana option_verbose contains the current verbose level`
`03:27.46`	`Sivana`	`ok`
`03:27.57`	`bkw_`	`scrubb its only bridged calls`
`03:28.01`	`bkw_`	`has to be two channels bridged`
`03:28.04`	`Connor_`	`In you routers, ad static map for port 5060 and 16384-16386 to point to your ATA/soft phone and try again with STUN`
`03:28.08`	`Sivana`	`why you choose that over like ast_log?`
`03:28.10`	`scrubb`	`bkw_: AHHHHHHHH`
`03:28.15`	`bkw_`	`ast_log goes to log`
`03:28.17`	`file`	`I'm not tired enough to laugh at MadTV`
`03:28.43`	`Sivana`	`which is the messages file, right?`
`03:28.53`	`ManxPower`	`file: various intoxicants can take care of that problem`
`03:29.18`	`ManxPower`	`I wasn't thinking of any specific intoxicant.`
`03:29.19`	`Connor_`	`and in rtp.conf, make sure you have rtpstart=16384`
`03:29.19`	`Connor_`	`rtpend=32768`
`03:29.34`	`NormAst`	`checking...`
`03:29.40`	`file`	`I should go get some juice`
`03:29.48`	`file`	`ManxPower: no :p`
`03:29.54`	`ManxPower`	`LOL!`
`03:30.07`	`NormAst`	`I have 10000 to 20000`
`03:30.08`	`Connor_`	`bi thing is the static port mappings for 5060 and 16384-16386 in the NAT routers...`
`03:30.13`	`scrubb`	`Ok, I want to call screen a call into voicemail`
`03:30.17`	`Connor_`	`s/bi/big/g`
`03:30.23`	`kram`	`everybody give russell a hand, he made his first cvs commit!`
`03:30.30`	`kram`	`this is the first step to the branch`
`03:30.36`	`drumkilla`	`wheeeeeeeee!`
`03:30.41`	`Connor_`	`w00t`
`03:30.41`	`scrubb`	`woo hoo`
`03:30.44`	`file`	`let's get the cake out`
`03:30.47`	`Connor_`	`branch ?`
`03:30.51`	`bkw_`	`once the branch takes place.. get ready to have some FUN`
`03:31.02`	`drumkilla`	`oh yeah, i'm excited :)`
`03:31.07`	`twisted`	`drumkilla, backport?`
`03:31.08`	`twisted`	`:P`
`03:31.10`	`drumkilla`	`really, i am actually`
`03:31.17`	`Connor_`	`What's up with the branch?`
`03:31.19`	`bkw_`	`CVS is your friend`
`03:31.21`	`drumkilla`	`it just gets me really excited to know that i have something to contribute`
`03:31.22`	`twisted`	`i can see you with a big ass grin on your face :)`
`03:31.37`	`drumkilla`	`Connor_: it will probably happen soon`
`03:31.37`	`bkw_`	`Connor drumkilla is going to maintain the release 1.0.x stuff`
`03:32.10`	`Connor_`	`bkw_ okay, I've not heard anything about this.. well.. something.. but no details..`
`03:32.11`	`bkw_`	`and kram and gang get to totally rip out some stuff and rewrite it`
`03:32.34`	`Connor_`	`so 1.0.x is gonna be ala "stable"`
`03:32.40`	`bkw_`	`yes`
`03:32.43`	`drumkilla`	`yah, that's the idea`
`03:32.54`	`bkw_`	`and drumkilla is going to be the goto guy on that`
`03:32.55`	`bkw_`	`not mark`
`03:32.57`	`Connor_`	`and 1.1.x would be dev? :)`
`03:32.59`	`bkw_`	`unless drumkilla needs him`
`03:33.04`	`drumkilla`	`and development can happen a little bit more agressively`
`03:33.19`	`bkw_`	`ya we can break stuff`
`03:33.23`	`bkw_`	`and not have to worry :P`
`03:33.32`	`drumkilla`	`since they won't have to worry that cvs head is being used in development`
`03:34.02`	`Connor_`	`Will there be seperate cvs for dev then available to public?`
`03:34.09`	`bkw_`	`yes its just a tag boi`
`03:34.13`	`drumkilla`	`you will get dev like you usually do`
`03:34.35`	`bkw_`	`drumkilla also in the release/stable fix the .version so its always what it should be instead of a date maybe?`
`03:34.41`	`bkw_`	`do patch levels`
`03:34.45`	`drumkilla`	`makes sense`
`03:34.46`	`Connor_`	`I have a hard time staying up-to-date on my box cause it's production... :(`
`03:35.03`	`file`	`somebody fetch me some fruit juice`
`03:35.15`	`drumkilla`	`i was also thinking that the changelog can include the differences between the maint. releases`
`03:35.29`	`Connor_`	`so, when will you kick the version #'s up on release/stable ?`
`03:35.41`	`drumkilla`	`as bug fixes are added`
`03:35.43`	`bkw_`	`or patch level maybe?`
`03:35.59`	`Connor_`	`1.0.134 I.E. 134 CVS commits ?`
`03:36.21`	`drumkilla`	`well ... depending on the severity of the bugs`
`03:36.50`	`file`	`must get a drink... hrm yes`
`03:37.09`	`Connor_`	`definatly increment if anything from the dev branch get's back ported...`
`03:37.13`	`doughecka`	`bkw_: get back yet?`
`03:37.22`	`bkw_`	`yes`
`03:37.27`	`doughecka`	`thats too bad`
`03:37.32`	`doughecka`	`we`
`03:37.33`	`doughecka`	`er`
`03:37.39`	`doughecka`	`ducks`
`03:37.52`	`doughecka`	`aye, first day with a new brain`
`03:38.51`	`drumkilla`	`there won't be any new features added`
`03:38.58`	`drumkilla`	`the idea is to make it as stable as possible`
`03:39.16`	`drumkilla`	`so people use it :)`
`03:39.35`	`*** join/#asterisk hmodes (hmodes@dsl092-231-153.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net)`
`03:39.59`	`file`	`are people _not_ using it?`
`03:40.03`	`file`	`if not, then why are they here?`
`03:40.15`	`file`	`:)`
`03:40.20`	`Chuji`	`using older versions file`
`03:40.22`	`drumkilla`	`use stable and not the dev branch`
`03:40.23`	`Connor_`	`How the heck are we going to handle stuff with dev vs stable with bug trackker?`
`03:40.27`	`file`	`it was a joke`
`03:40.32`	`drumkilla`	`yeah, yeah :)`
`03:40.35`	`drumkilla`	`such a joker!`
`03:40.45`	`file`	`ha`
`03:40.59`	`twisted`	`hmmm`
`03:41.08`	`file`	`somebody answer me this...`
`03:41.11`	`twisted`	`hey kram, i haven't seen the email from drumkilla's commit`
`03:41.17`	`file`	`why is fruit juice red?`
`03:42.05`	`drumkilla`	`Connor_: they get marked 'resolved' for dev stuff, then i will 'close' them when it's in stable if applicable`
`03:43.15`	`file`	`is the glass half full... or half empty?`
`03:43.43`	`twisted`	`file, 42oz`
`03:43.44`	`scrubb`	`ok, can someone else help me with ideas here? I'm trying to figure out how to screen calls when they are sent to VM. Kind of like an answering machine.`
`03:44.04`	`drumkilla`	`file: twice as big as it needs to be`
`03:44.10`	`file`	`all wrong`
`03:44.15`	`file`	`the correct answer is, there is no glass`
`03:44.22`	`twisted`	`file, 42 is never wrong.`
`03:44.39`	`file`	`I'm afraid it is.`
`03:44.40`	`scrubb`	`I have my second line of my sip phone on auto answer (intercom)`
`03:44.46`	`drumkilla`	`you silly`
`03:44.57`	`twisted`	`scrubb, you could always drop the call into a meetme`
`03:45.06`	`twisted`	`and drop a call file to have voicemail and your line attach to the meetme`
`03:45.08`	`twisted`	`using marked users`
`03:45.17`	`twisted`	`and meetme muted entrance`
`03:45.22`	`twisted`	`and listen only`
`03:45.36`	`scrubb`	`twisted: ok, how do i call file the voicemail into the meetme?`
`03:45.43`	`twisted`	`setup a script`
`03:45.46`	`twisted`	`see sample.call`
`03:45.46`	`scrubb`	`twisted: this was the road I was going down.`
`03:46.10`	`twisted`	`and execute something like exten => blah,2,System(/usr/local/bin/dropvm ${EXTEN})`
`03:46.11`	`scrubb`	`twisted: but what "channel" do I use a chan/local`
`03:46.26`	`twisted`	`you'd attach meetme as the channel`
`03:46.39`	`twisted`	`and application dial with chan_local to call the voicemail`
`03:46.49`	`twisted`	`err`
`03:46.50`	`twisted`	`no`
`03:46.55`	`twisted`	`application meetem`
`03:46.58`	`twisted`	`and channel local for the phone`
`03:46.58`	`twisted`	`yueah`
`03:47.05`	`scrubb`	`channel is chan/local`
`03:47.05`	`twisted`	`i'm supertired`
`03:47.06`	`twisted`	`hangon`
`03:47.06`	`scrubb`	`ok`
`03:47.13`	`scrubb`	`let me think on it.`
`03:47.17`	`scrubb`	`thanks for the advise`
`03:47.29`	`extremis`	`does iax2 support aes encrption?`
`03:47.39`	`twisted`	`yeah`
`03:47.45`	`extremis`	`how do I enable it?`
`03:47.47`	`twisted`	`channel: local/exten4meetme@context`
`03:47.51`	`twisted`	`application: voicemail2`
`03:47.58`	`twisted`	`data: ${EXTEN}`
`03:48.01`	`twisted`	`er`
`03:48.02`	`twisted`	`$1`
`03:48.07`	`twisted`	`and you pass it ${EXTEN} as the extension`
`03:48.11`	`twisted`	`you'd do two files`
`03:48.14`	`drumkilla`	`voicemail2, eh? it's the same thing as voicemail :p`
`03:48.19`	`twisted`	`one for voicemail and one for your monitor-only speakerphone`
`03:48.37`	`twisted`	`yeah`
`03:48.42`	`twisted`	`drumkilla, see above`
`03:48.45`	`twisted`	`[22:47] <twisted> i'm supertired`
`03:48.56`	`drumkilla`	`same here ...`
`03:49.01`	`twisted`	`they are exactly the same, although I do think it's time we phase out voicemail2`
`03:49.07`	`scrubb`	`twisted: excellent and I can just kick voicemail from the conference if the user wants to "take' the call.`
`03:49.08`	`twisted`	`since it's been the same for over 6 months`
`03:49.08`	`*** join/#asterisk PhilM (~a@r42h98.res.gatech.edu)`
`03:49.15`	`twisted`	`scrubb, yep`
`03:49.26`	`drumkilla`	`doesn't hurt to leave it though`
`03:49.31`	`drumkilla`	`for compatibility issues`
`03:49.35`	`drumkilla`	`only a few extra lines of code`
`03:49.44`	`twisted`	`drumkilla, it's just been long enufff`
`03:49.49`	`drumkilla`	`hehe`
`03:49.50`	`extremis`	`does iax2 support aes encrption?`
`03:49.53`	`twisted`	`and since we're talking of rewriting voicemail from scratch`
`03:50.07`	`scrubb`	`twisted: YES!!!!`
`03:50.07`	`twisted`	`i'd rather not have voicemail and voicemail2 that are exactly the same thing`
`03:50.10`	`twisted`	`and introduce voicemail3`
`03:50.21`	`drumkilla`	`yeah, i have been talking to matt o'gorman about doing that`
`03:50.23`	`scrubb`	`rewrite`
`03:50.33`	`twisted`	`drumkilla, we've got a "plan" for it`
`03:50.40`	`drumkilla`	`oh yeah? so do we, hehe`
`03:50.49`	`twisted`	`drumkilla, we all need to bump heads some day on it`
`03:50.51`	`drumkilla`	`maybe we can do a conf sometime tomorrow about it`
`03:50.56`	`drumkilla`	`or sometime, yeah`
`03:51.06`	`twisted`	`tomorrow may be bad`
`03:51.09`	`scrubb`	`drumkilla: its needed badly ;-)`
`03:51.11`	`twisted`	`i've gotta get caught back up here`
`03:51.21`	`drumkilla`	`well sometime this week, then`
`03:51.23`	`drumkilla`	`no big deal`
`03:51.32`	`twisted`	`my cats have given me plenty to clean up`
`03:51.40`	`twisted`	`since i left them alone for 5 days`
`03:52.16`	`twisted`	`drumkilla, but yea, definately sometime soon`
`03:52.30`	`twisted`	`drumkilla, for now, we have a wiki "to-do" list for it`
`03:52.44`	`drumkilla`	`you have a link i can look over until then?`
`03:53.07`	`*** join/#asterisk habakuk (~chatzilla@adsl-64-168-23-239.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net)`
`03:53.12`	`twisted`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Wishlist`
`03:53.21`	`twisted`	`it's not complete in the slightest`
`03:53.28`	`twisted`	`but it's a good base`
`03:54.31`	`twisted`	`we were actually talking about the ideas we had at the hotel bar the other night`
`03:55.05`	`drumkilla`	`that's cool`
`03:55.06`	`WilliamK`	`heya twisted`
`03:55.07`	`WilliamK`	`=)`
`03:55.10`	`twisted`	`hi WilliamK :)`
`03:55.15`	`WilliamK`	`how goes?`
`03:55.18`	`twisted`	`goes okay`
`03:55.24`	`drumkilla`	`what Matt and I have been talking about is to make it totally configurable`
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`03:55.27`	`drumkilla`	`almost dialplan like`
`03:55.39`	`WilliamK`	`cool`
`03:55.46`	`twisted`	`drumkilla, that's sorta where we're looking, slightly different though`
`03:55.48`	`drumkilla`	`include a default config similar to current functionality`
`03:56.13`	`twisted`	`here's the jist of what we've been discussing`
`03:56.19`	`drumkilla`	`a "build your own voicemail" toolkit`
`03:56.30`	`drumkilla`	`called Moosemail (credits to Matt)`
`03:56.33`	`twisted`	`either a) modular voicemail - each feature is a loadable module you assign to a menu tree and key selection for load`
`03:56.40`	`twisted`	`or`
`03:56.43`	`twisted`	`b) templates`
`03:56.53`	`twisted`	`where you design your tree, assign menu options to keys, etc.`
`03:56.54`	`scrubb`	`keep preaching twisted and drumkilla`
`03:56.59`	`scrubb`	`amen brothers`
`03:57.00`	`drumkilla`	`ok, so we're thinking along the same lines`
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`03:57.07`	`scrubb`	`when will it be done?`
`03:57.07`	`twisted`	`we can include templates for the current voicemail`
`03:57.14`	`twisted`	`which will be 100% compatible with current usage`
`03:57.22`	`drumkilla`	`yeah, exactly`
`03:57.29`	`twisted`	`as well as templates for octel (a must), meridian mail, and a few others.`
`03:57.32`	`drumkilla`	`scrubb: when are you going to help? ;)`
`03:57.38`	`ManxPower`	`I'd be happy if a DNS failure on Asterisk startup is retried later.`
`03:57.53`	`scrubb`	`drumkilla: if you got a piece I can do, let me know.`
`03:57.54`	`extremis`	`how does everyone secure their iax2 channels?`
`03:57.55`	`twisted`	`ManxPower, problem is, dns queries are blocking`
`03:58.05`	`extremis`	`I would love to see native encryption`
`03:58.08`	`ManxPower`	`twisted: Yeah. Make them not do that. 8-)`
`03:58.18`	`twisted`	`ManxPower, yeah, submit a patch to thread them :)`
`03:58.31`	`ManxPower`	`twisted: No need to be vulgar. 8-)`
`03:58.37`	`twisted`	`ManxPower, lol`
`03:58.39`	`drumkilla`	`twisted: i think it can be totally modular, but include samples that are the template for those systems`
`03:58.56`	`twisted`	`drumkilla, i'm a bigger fan of modularity (since it was my idea on the conf)`
`03:59.06`	`twisted`	`that way your codebase is streamlined`
`03:59.11`	`drumkilla`	`exactly`
`03:59.13`	`twisted`	`and we only load the routines that are needed`
`03:59.17`	`drumkilla`	`and gives more power to the admin`
`03:59.29`	`twisted`	`nods`
`03:59.36`	`twisted`	`and features can be modified without taking voicemail offline`
`03:59.42`	`twisted`	`extremely flexible for busy systems`
`03:59.43`	`drumkilla`	`herehere`
`04:00.00`	`twisted`	`*CLI> voicemail load tree advanced 5 callback.so`
`04:00.09`	`drumkilla`	`:)`
`04:00.09`	`WilliamK`	`is there a way to tell Asterisk instead of using the 1st avail chan on a PRI/trunk group, to use the last avail chan?`
`04:00.14`	`drumkilla`	`i'm excited`
`04:00.14`	`ManxPower`	`twisted: I've stoped using hostnames in my Asterisk configs.`
`04:00.23`	`twisted`	`keystroke 5 in the advanced menu becomes "call this person back`
`04:00.25`	`twisted`	`"`
`04:00.42`	`*** join/#asterisk habakuk (~chatzilla@adsl-64-168-23-239.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net)`
`04:00.44`	`twisted`	`WilliamK, not to my knowledge`
`04:00.50`	`ManxPower`	`In a power outage if the router doesn't come back before Asterisk starts it basically doesn't work if you are using hostnames`
`04:01.13`	`drumkilla`	`alright, so let's have a conf this week to come up with an architectural plan for it`
`04:01.37`	`twisted`	`drumkilla, k, but shouldn't you be focusing on 1.0-stable as opposed to new featuresets?`
`04:01.42`	`twisted`	`just kiddin :(`
`04:01.43`	`drumkilla`	`haha`
`04:01.44`	`twisted`	`er :)`
`04:01.52`	`ManxPower`	`Actualyl he should be.`
`04:01.56`	`drumkilla`	`1.0 is my priority, yes`
`04:02.13`	`drumkilla`	`but this is pretty much all i do outside of work :)`
`04:02.15`	`drumkilla`	`i have time!`
`04:02.19`	`twisted`	`yea`
`04:02.21`	`twisted`	`i do this for work`
`04:02.24`	`twisted`	`and outside of work`
`04:02.27`	`twisted`	`so i have MORE time`
`04:02.30`	`twisted`	`:P`
`04:02.53`	`PatrickDK`	`ok, ok, stop talking, more coding :)`
`04:03.05`	`twisted`	`heh`
`04:03.26`	`twisted`	`PatrickDK, beauty is, opensource. you can code on it too. :)`
`04:03.33`	`drumkilla`	`this is true`
`04:03.40`	`drumkilla`	`IRC is probably my #1 distraction`
`04:03.45`	`twisted`	`heh`
`04:03.51`	`PatrickDK`	`I know, like you, irc kills me`
`04:03.54`	`twisted`	`drumkilla, i'll show you the power of /work`
`04:03.59`	`PatrickDK`	`but then, I have a website to deploy be oct 1st`
`04:04.03`	`PatrickDK`	`taking any time I have`
`04:04.04`	`twisted`	`which will let you work without distraction`
`04:04.17`	`twisted`	`unless someone really needs to get ahold of you`
`04:04.29`	`twisted`	`that you ALLOW`
`04:04.36`	`PatrickDK`	`well, I am going head to sleep`
`04:04.38`	`drumkilla`	`ha, interesting`
`04:04.49`	`twisted`	`drumkilla, it's very simple`
`04:04.57`	`twisted`	`i have a queryblocker script that blocks unsolicited /msg's`
`04:05.18`	`twisted`	`and /work is bound to ignore public from *`
`04:05.19`	`ManxPower`	`I just set my /away message`
`04:05.28`	`twisted`	`so you don't even SEE it`
`04:05.54`	`scrubb`	`twisted: how do I "mark" a user for meetme?`
`04:05.56`	`twisted`	`so the only time i get messages when in that mode is if it's someone i have allowed messages from`
`04:06.02`	`twisted`	`scrubb, show application meetme`
`04:06.06`	`twisted`	`it's the x flag i believe`
`04:06.43`	`*** join/#asterisk izo (~izo@izo.warpl.ipxxi.pl)`
`04:06.51`	`izo`	`hey is iax transfer working for nated endpoints ?`
`04:07.20`	`ManxPower`	`izo: it should`
`04:07.24`	`pvinci`	`AGI Tx >>`
`04:07.24`	`pvinci`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:07.51`	`WilliamK`	`the 2 still dislike each other`
`04:08.16`	`scrubb`	`twisted: 'x' -- close the conference when last marked user exits`
`04:08.50`	`twisted`	`scrubb, yea, the phone and voicemail are both marked users`
`04:08.54`	`twisted`	`you give x to the caller`
`04:09.14`	`twisted`	`it's not gonna be an exact science`
`04:09.18`	`twisted`	`but it'll work`
`04:09.30`	`twisted`	`actually`
`04:09.35`	`scrubb`	`twisted: you mean I join them with the "x" flag and it marks them.`
`04:09.40`	`twisted`	`right`
`04:09.43`	`scrubb`	`gotcha`
`04:10.10`	`*** join/#asterisk JerJer (~mine@DSL-49-70.che.centurytel.net)`
`04:10.15`	`scrubb`	`hey JerJer`
`04:10.34`	`JerJer`	`moo`
`04:10.42`	`JerJer`	`finally hope`
`04:10.46`	`JerJer`	`home`
`04:10.52`	`JerJer`	`p?`
`04:11.22`	`JerJer`	`AirTran left my damn Astricon Backback in Atlanta, mutha phuckas`
`04:11.38`	`ManxPower`	`You checked a backpack?`
`04:11.44`	`JerJer`	`had to`
`04:11.53`	`JerJer`	`one carry on item only`
`04:12.07`	`PhilM`	`X-Fares?`
`04:12.11`	`*** join/#asterisk brycv (~brycv@pcp0010120259pcs.summit01.tn.comcast.net)`
`04:12.23`	`ManxPower`	`All the airlines I've flown did not consider a laptop to be a "carry on item", considered a "personal item" like a ....purse...`
`04:12.31`	`JerJer`	`I brought my laptop on board with me`
`04:12.57`	`JerJer`	`when i checked in the chick told me the laptop was all i could take`
`04:13.00`	`JerJer`	`on board`
`04:13.24`	`ManxPower`	`JerJer: That really sucks.`
`04:13.41`	`JerJer`	`its not too bad... they are FedEx-ing it to me from ATL`
`04:14.00`	`mjmac`	`JerJer: was the flight really crowded? i've flown AT and carried my laptop and overnight bag on`
`04:14.19`	`JerJer`	`and i own a few shares of FDX`
`04:14.30`	`JerJer`	`mjmac: yes, every seat was full, even in first class`
`04:14.43`	`mjmac`	`"first class" on AirTran`
`04:14.45`	`mjmac`	`:)`
`04:14.54`	`JerJer`	`a whole six seats :)`
`04:15.19`	`JerJer`	`on the 717 jet`
`04:16.26`	`mjmac`	`actually i've sprung for business class on AT a few times on my way home. at $50 extra it's not too bad when the coach is full of screaming kids. they give you free booze, too.`
`04:17.07`	`citats`	`i love flying AT. i always fly out of flint if I do, so I usually end up parking 25 feet from the terminal`
`04:17.18`	`*** join/#asterisk rwjblue (~rwjblue@63.175.93.3)`
`04:17.21`	`JerJer`	`hell yes FNT is great`
`04:17.32`	`JerJer`	`i did my private pilot training there`
`04:19.13`	`izo`	`how was the conference ?`
`04:19.28`	`JerJer`	`fun`
`04:19.55`	`NormAst`	`I wanted to go but the company was too cheap to spring for the Air Fair.`
`04:19.56`	`JerJer`	`a lot better than I had anticpated`
`04:20.16`	`PhilM`	`Maybe next year I'll go`
`04:20.27`	`NormAst`	`Me too.. Hope to see some video...`
`04:20.43`	`WilliamK`	`hey JerJer`
`04:20.52`	`JerJer`	`The next one is in europe`
`04:20.54`	`JerJer`	`moo`
`04:21.13`	`PhilM`	`I'm really cheap, I'm in Atlanta and I didn't go`
`04:21.20`	`WilliamK`	`Jer, ever work with non-digium T1 cards?`
`04:21.20`	`JerJer`	`lol`
`04:21.35`	`JerJer`	`WilliamK: stupid Dialogic crap, sure`
`04:21.38`	`*** join/#asterisk VoiceLynx (~rda@user-0cdv656.cable.mindspring.com)`
`04:21.51`	`WilliamK`	`I still have my 2-3 week old problem`
`04:21.55`	`WilliamK`	`haven't been able to fix it yet`
`04:22.13`	`JerJer`	`buy a Digium T-1 card then`
`04:22.18`	`WilliamK`	`didn't know if the dialogic cards or others work better`
`04:22.22`	`WilliamK`	`Digium is what I have`
`04:22.24`	`WilliamK`	`no one can fix it`
`04:22.26`	`JerJer`	`?`
`04:22.31`	`WilliamK`	`T100P`
`04:22.31`	`JerJer`	`explain yourself then`
`04:22.45`	`WilliamK`	`Sep 25 23:12:53 NOTICE[229390]: chan_zap.c:7358 pri_dchannel: PRI got event: 6 on Primary D-channel of span 1`
`04:22.48`	`WilliamK`	`continously`
`04:22.53`	`JerJer`	`call Digium`
`04:22.54`	`WilliamK`	`MANY lines per second`
`04:22.57`	`WilliamK`	`already have`
`04:23.00`	`JerJer`	`and?`
`04:23.03`	`WilliamK`	`no fix`
`04:23.06`	`JerJer`	`you rap wif the man himself?`
`04:23.07`	`ManxPower`	`WilliamK: Change your motherboard to a different brand.`
`04:23.16`	`WilliamK`	`tried 2 different cards, different machines`
`04:23.18`	`ManxPower`	`make sure you are not running raid`
`04:23.29`	`ManxPower`	`WilliamK: Two different BRANDS of motherboards?`
`04:23.43`	`mjmac`	`ManxPower: what's RAID got to do with it? interrupts?`
`04:23.54`	`ManxPower`	`Also make sure your IDE is not doing DMA`
`04:23.57`	`WilliamK`	`last idea was to get a TE405P card, and distributor hasn't been able to get ahold of Digium since the conference this last week`
`04:24.00`	`WilliamK`	`and they're totally out`
`04:24.13`	`WilliamK`	`Manx, 2 different motherboard brand and everything`
`04:24.16`	`ManxPower`	`mjmac: There was a report of a raid driver doing something horrible with Asterisk, prolly locking interrupts for too long.`
`04:24.21`	`WilliamK`	`no raid at all`
`04:24.23`	`ManxPower`	`If DMA is disabled, enable them`
`04:24.45`	`ManxPower`	`unmask interrupts on the IDE`
`04:24.51`	`WilliamK`	`John @ Digium had been working on it, even looked at the box`
`04:25.44`	`WilliamK`	`Manx or Jer wanna look at the box?`
`04:25.48`	`ManxPower`	`WilliamK: I've always thought that error basically said "I got corrupted data from the port, prolly because someone has been locking interrupts for too long!"`
`04:25.53`	`WilliamK`	`tried EVERYTHING`
`04:26.25`	`WilliamK`	`I have a feeling it has to do with q931 and f-bit polling`
`04:26.28`	`NormAst`	`Any one know why I get these all the time`
`04:26.29`	`NormAst`	`Sep 26 00:26:29 DEBUG[1087232816]: chan_sip.c:817 __sip_ack: Stopping retransmission on '608fd1bc7416534438b373a804e5563b@64.187.1.234' of Request 102: Found`
`04:26.32`	`WilliamK`	`unfortunately I don't know code that well`
`04:26.44`	`NormAst`	`Wehre 64.187.1.234 is the server?`
`04:27.28`	`JerJer`	`WilliamK: what is connected on the far end of that T-1?`
`04:28.16`	`WilliamK`	`EWSD Class 5 telco switch`
`04:28.33`	`WilliamK`	`no smartjacks, hard wired T1`
`04:28.40`	`WilliamK`	`DSX only`
`04:28.55`	`JerJer`	`PRI?`
`04:28.58`	`WilliamK`	`yup`
`04:29.06`	`JerJer`	`latest cvs?`
`04:29.12`	`JerJer`	`who is doing timing?`
`04:29.13`	`ManxPower`	`No smartjacks? that's gotta suck.`
`04:29.17`	`WilliamK`	`they are`
`04:29.31`	`WilliamK`	`Manx, switch is only about 100-150 ft away`
`04:29.39`	`WilliamK`	`latest CVS`
`04:29.43`	`WilliamK`	`I update almost daily`
`04:29.56`	`ManxPower`	`WilliamK: Do you have access to the actual switch?`
`04:30.13`	`WilliamK`	`I can send you one of my later debugs of the PRI if you'd like`
`04:30.32`	`WilliamK`	`Manx, sorry the CLEC doesn't give me access to it or I'd probably have fun killing it for humor`
`04:30.33`	`WilliamK`	`=)`
`04:30.41`	`ManxPower`	`No smartjacks? that's gotta suck.`
`04:30.56`	`ManxPower`	`Smartjacks are very helpful.`
`04:31.23`	`ManxPower`	`"I have a red alarm on the smartjack" carries a lot more weight than "My T100P is showing a red alarm"`
`04:32.13`	`WilliamK`	`D chan goes away and comes back`
`04:32.24`	`WilliamK`	`and it's stable when plugged into the 3com Total Control chassis`
`04:33.36`	`izo`	`WIliamK hey check the pri debug`
`04:33.50`	`izo`	`for any status errorrs`
`04:34.10`	`ManxPower`	`This is pretty http://onlinestore.cingular.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ES_PCCARD_DETAILS.jsp?phoneid=406750&storeId=13651&catalogId=13651&langId=-1&storeAlias=smsbmi&svcAreaId=BIL&subOrderId=1&isPostpaid=true&isDataConnectPlan=false&iHaveAPhone=false`
`04:34.16`	`izo`	`williamK how often its dies ?`
`04:34.20`	`WilliamK`	`on the 200/203 counters?`
`04:34.24`	`WilliamK`	`izo, constantly`
`04:34.59`	`WilliamK`	`if anyone wants to see the intense debug I can email it`
`04:35.05`	`izo`	`WilliamK yeah check counter errors`
`04:35.08`	`WilliamK`	`ALOT of info for me to copy+paste`
`04:35.17`	`izo`	`williamk www.pastebin.org`
`04:35.35`	`izo`	`hey try to set in libpri`
`04:35.38`	`izo`	`in make file`
`04:35.57`	`izo`	`let me find it`
`04:36.30`	`WilliamK`	`> Supervisory frame:`
`04:36.30`	`WilliamK`	`> SAPI: 00 C/R: 0 EA: 0`
`04:36.30`	`WilliamK`	`> TEI: 000 EA: 1`
`04:36.30`	`WilliamK`	`> Zero: 0 S: 0 01: 1 [ RR (receive ready) ]`
`04:36.30`	`WilliamK`	`> N(R): 000 P/F: 1`
`04:36.31`	`WilliamK`	`> 0 bytes of data`
`04:36.33`	`WilliamK`	`-- Restarting T203 counter`
`04:36.35`	`WilliamK`	`Sep 24 17:51:08 NOTICE[229390]: chan_zap.c:7358 pri_dchannel: PRI got event:`
`04:36.37`	`WilliamK`	`6 on Primary D-channel of span 1`
`04:36.39`	`WilliamK`	`-- Retrying poll with f-bit`
`04:36.41`	`WilliamK`	`Sending Receiver Ready (0)`
`04:36.43`	`WilliamK`	`asterisk*CLI>`
`04:36.45`	`WilliamK`	`> [ 00 01 01 01 ]`
`04:36.47`	`WilliamK`	`that's PART of the debug`
`04:37.28`	`izo`	`williamk come on man`
`04:37.42`	`WilliamK`	`?`
`04:37.56`	`Stealth_Man`	`willima you still having probs with EWSD ?`
`04:38.16`	`izo`	`williamk try uncommeting #ALERTING=-DALERTING_NO_PROGRESS`
`04:38.19`	`WilliamK`	`Sealth, yep... haven't found a way to fix it`
`04:38.28`	`izo`	`in makefile for libpri`
`04:38.36`	`izo`	`recompile libpri ans asterisk after`
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`04:39.01`	`izo`	`williamk : does it happen either you have calls or not ?`
`04:39.01`	`WilliamK`	`okie, doing it right now`
`04:39.12`	`WilliamK`	`doesn't matter if it has calls or not`
`04:39.21`	`izo`	`so it want help u :0()`
`04:39.22`	`izo`	`sorry`
`04:40.12`	`izo`	`williamk what card u have how many channel sconnected ?`
`04:40.23`	`WilliamK`	`T100P`
`04:40.26`	`WilliamK`	`all 24 chans`
`04:40.46`	`izo`	`oh ok`
`04:40.51`	`izo`	`i use ewsd with E1s`
`04:41.31`	`izo`	`check cables and timeing twice`
`04:41.47`	`WilliamK`	`already did ALOT of that`
`04:41.54`	`WilliamK`	`even looked via a T1 test set`
`04:42.57`	`izo`	`what errors is ewsd giving ? check for err description in ewsd manual`
`04:42.59`	`WilliamK`	`now I'm seeing Sep 25 23:35:43 WARNING[229390]: chan_zap.c:7112 zt_pri_error: PRI: Short write: -1/19 (Unknown error 500) after recompiling and uncommenting 1 line in libpri`
`04:43.28`	`WilliamK`	`izo, I don't see any that I know of from the far side`
`04:43.35`	`WilliamK`	`everything looks clean on the CLEC's side`
`04:43.44`	`izo`	`hm..`
`04:43.48`	`izo`	`strange`
`04:43.53`	`izo`	`irq sharing ?`
`04:44.32`	`izo`	`cat /proc/interrputs`
`04:44.49`	`Stealth_Man`	`yes izo is right`
`04:44.53`	`WilliamK`	`no irq sharing`
`04:44.59`	`Stealth_Man`	`it's definately some prbos with irq`
`04:45.06`	`izo`	`apci is on ?`
`04:45.23`	`WilliamK`	`[root@asterisk libpri]# cat /proc/interrupts`
`04:45.23`	`WilliamK`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:45.23`	`WilliamK`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:45.23`	`WilliamK`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:45.23`	`WilliamK`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:45.24`	`WilliamK`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:45.26`	`WilliamK`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`04:45.28`	`WilliamK`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:45.30`	`WilliamK`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:45.30`	`Stealth_Man`	`same sharing of irq's and channels being going down all the time`
`04:45.32`	`WilliamK`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:45.34`	`WilliamK`	`NMI: 0 0`
`04:45.36`	`WilliamK`	`LOC: 19357128 19357134`
`04:45.38`	`WilliamK`	`ERR: 0`
`04:45.40`	`WilliamK`	`MIS: 0`
`04:45.42`	`WilliamK`	`[root@asterisk libpri]#`
`04:45.57`	`izo`	`williamk : man you have no mercy on this channel ;-)`
`04:46.05`	`WilliamK`	`this last debug has ALOT more info in it after uncommenting that one line`
`04:46.23`	`Stealth_Man`	`William: use pastebin.org or pastebin.ca`
`04:46.25`	`Stealth_Man`	`:)`
`04:46.34`	`Stealth_Man`	`will be faster and easier :)`
`04:46.58`	`WilliamK`	`Stealth, pastebin.org looked like a spam page to my fast glancing`
`04:46.58`	`WilliamK`	`=)`
`04:47.12`	`Stealth_Man`	`well pastebin.ca is fine`
`04:47.15`	`Stealth_Man`	`or pastebin.com`
`04:47.16`	`Stealth_Man`	`:)`
`04:47.32`	`WilliamK`	`there we go`
`04:47.33`	`WilliamK`	`=)`
`04:47.36`	`WilliamK`	`.org is trashed`
`04:47.36`	`WilliamK`	`=)`
`04:47.45`	`JerJer`	`or pb.netmonks.ca`
`04:48.43`	`WilliamK`	`sent`
`04:48.57`	`JerJer`	`send the url, yo`
`04:49.21`	`WilliamK`	`http://www.pastebin.com/104789`
`04:50.09`	`Stealth_Man`	`LOL`
`04:50.11`	`Stealth_Man`	`:)`
`04:50.45`	`WilliamK`	`Stealth, I've tried EVERYTHING under the sun to make this error go away`
`04:50.56`	`WilliamK`	`1st time I've ever gotten debug like this`
`04:51.25`	`WilliamK`	`# Uncomment if you want libpri to count number of Q921/Q931 sent/received`
`04:51.25`	`WilliamK`	`LIBPRI_COUNTERS=-DLIBPRI_COUNTERS`
`04:51.32`	`WilliamK`	`that was the line I uncommented`
`04:51.38`	`WilliamK`	`when I recompiled a min ago`
`04:52.18`	`WilliamK`	`if you've got an idea on howto fix it, please let me know and you can definately try =)`
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`04:57.09`	`WilliamK`	`Stealth, you got any ideas?`
`04:59.02`	`Stealth_Man`	`williamk i need sometime, let me finish one guys config here and i will be here. couple minutes sorry`
`05:01.20`	`WilliamK`	`no prob`
`05:03.40`	`Stealth_Man`	`William`
`05:03.57`	`Stealth_Man`	`what card do you run ?`
`05:03.59`	`Stealth_Man`	`te405 ?`
`05:04.33`	`WilliamK`	`T100P`
`05:05.02`	`WilliamK`	`if you want to try and fix it you can get in the box`
`05:05.44`	`Stealth_Man`	`well i am not sure that i will help much:( you have to ask mark for assistance or bkw`
`05:05.53`	`Stealth_Man`	`but let's define problem again`
`05:07.55`	`JerJer`	`try a different switch`
`05:07.56`	`WilliamK`	`problem is that I get flooded with about 55+ lines a sec of this`
`05:07.57`	`WilliamK`	`Sep 26 00:01:13 NOTICE[229390]: chan_zap.c:7358 pri_dchannel: PRI got event: 6 on Primary D-channel of span 1`
`05:08.12`	`WilliamK`	`Jer, I wish I could chunk the CLEC's switch`
`05:08.15`	`WilliamK`	`not my choice`
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`05:08.27`	`cresl1n`	`w00t!`
`05:08.53`	`JerJer`	`meep`
`05:08.58`	`JerJer`	`meep`
`05:09.04`	`cresl1n`	`hey JerJer`
`05:09.26`	`cresl1n`	`It's weird knowing everybody in real life now`
`05:09.29`	`cresl1n`	`:-)`
`05:09.37`	`WilliamK`	`take that back... 180 lines a second`
`05:09.43`	`cresl1n`	`that's something that doesn't happen too often in real life`
`05:09.44`	`WilliamK`	`http://www.pastebin.com/104791`
`05:09.59`	`cresl1n`	`s/real life/in an irc channel/`
`05:10.00`	`cresl1n`	`lol`
`05:10.23`	`brc_`	`http://snipurl.com/astricon astricon dev recordings`
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`05:10.52`	`WilliamK`	`brc.....very cool`
`05:10.52`	`WilliamK`	`=)`
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`05:11.14`	`brc_`	`meepmeep!`
`05:11.42`	`brc_`	`cannon arrives`
`05:12.10`	`pachell`	`hrmm, this is strange, i can't place a sip => sip call within asterisk in one direction: Got SIP response 400 "Bad Request"`
`05:12.22`	`pachell`	`station a can't ring b, however, b can ring a`
`05:12.57`	`pachell`	`an inbound calls get routed perfectly fine to station b`
`05:14.41`	`WilliamK`	`http://www.pastebin.com/104793 is the copy paste of ztcfg`
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`05:29.47`	`EarlGrey`	`Evening all`
`05:29.49`	`EarlGrey`	`Over the past few nights i have been getting my fedora/asterisk box setup up as far as i can.`
`05:29.53`	`EarlGrey`	`I'm going away for a week and won't have a computer but plenty of time to read so i'll get some books and print out loads of stuff.`
`05:29.58`	`EarlGrey`	`Till then i have a few goles and would liek to achieve atleast one of them.`
`05:30.03`	`EarlGrey`	`1. Connect up a Hard Sip Phone to Asterisk and do an echo check call or somthing`
`05:30.05`	`EarlGrey`	`2. Connect up a Phoneline over an x100p FXO and see a call arriving on the asterisk box`
`05:30.07`	`EarlGrey`	`3. Connect up an iax account and see a call arriving on the asterisk box`
`05:30.10`	`EarlGrey`	`4. make or recieve a call`
`05:30.12`	`EarlGrey`	`Is there anyone about that would help a newbie to get to one of these targets?`
`05:31.30`	`Stealth_Man`	`EarlGrey : it's simple`
`05:31.38`	`Stealth_Man`	`i will try to help you`
`05:31.51`	`EarlGrey`	`thank you`
`05:32.02`	`EarlGrey`	`which one do you want to pick`
`05:32.09`	`Stealth_Man`	`first of all post it on asterisk.xvoip.com`
`05:32.14`	`WilliamK`	`http://www.pastebin.com/104799 is more info again`
`05:32.16`	`Stealth_Man`	`so not only me, but others will help :)`
`05:32.33`	`Stealth_Man`	`William. we need to try to get mark to take a look into this prob`
`05:32.39`	`Stealth_Man`	`he is <MAsterBlaster`
`05:33.49`	`WilliamK`	`this been going on for at least 2-3 weeks and it's stopping me from moving forwards`
`05:36.51`	`brc_`	`JamesDotCom, http://snipurl.com/astricon`
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`05:40.45`	`JerJer`	`for(;;) fork(); }`
`05:41.19`	`WilliamK`	`if then=(goto;/dev/null)`
`05:41.21`	`WilliamK`	`=)`
`05:43.05`	`EarlGrey`	`stealth_man which one do you want to pick`
`05:44.05`	`EarlGrey`	`if i can do one i'd be v.happy any more an i'd be over the moon`
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`05:47.19`	`Silik0n`	`yawn`
`05:48.41`	`Silik0n`	`so anyone know of any companies selling turnkey * servers ready to go?`
`05:49.06`	`JerJer`	`depends on your defination of turnkey`
`05:49.06`	`Silik0n`	`for use in place of northstars and panasonic sized key/hybrid systems`
`05:49.46`	`Silik0n`	`all hardware and software ready for someone to drop a config on`
`05:49.48`	`MustDie`	`silikon:`
`05:49.49`	`MustDie`	`atacomm`
`05:50.22`	`JerJer`	`Silik0n: there are many ppl that will provide you with an Asterisk PBX configuration to your specifications`
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`05:50.28`	`brc_`	`~brc_`
`05:50.29`	`jbot`	`you are probably Brian is available for custom Asterisk consulting...Contact brian@summitcompany.com for details...Paypal @ paypal@brianchristie.com`
`05:50.31`	`SipChat`	`hi`
`05:50.44`	`SipChat`	`Can anyone please confir mfor me if my IRC client is working?`
`05:50.51`	`brc_`	`SipChat, just type "~ping"`
`05:50.56`	`JerJer`	`but there are no drop-in replacements for those systems, at least i know of`
`05:51.00`	`SipChat`	`Ok... thanks :)`
`05:51.04`	`SipChat`	`~ping`
`05:51.05`	`jbot`	`pong`
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`05:51.13`	`SipChat`	`:) thx`
`05:51.57`	`Silik0n`	`thats what I am finding on google and the like... everyone will do a custom system..`
`05:52.31`	`Silik0n`	`really looking for some "standard" type package deals that translate easy to old school phone sales people`
`05:52.41`	`Silik0n`	`(my sales guy is a moron)`
`05:53.21`	`Silik0n`	`lets just say he worked for xspedius before he came to work here`
`05:53.21`	`brc_`	`what's your sales guy doing meddleing in purchasing?`
`05:53.21`	`Silik0n`	`hah`
`05:53.27`	`Silik0n`	`he's not`
`05:53.42`	`brc_`	`well then...`
`05:53.43`	`Silik0n`	`but if I can give him some simple sell "this" or "that" he does better`
`05:53.50`	`brc_`	`oh......`
`05:54.18`	`Silik0n`	`he's like a user cant give him too many options`
`05:54.36`	`brc_`	`well you can always rent-a-astmaster and make a turnkey system...`
`05:55.25`	`Silik0n`	`well I could do that myself, but i want to avoid inhouse warrenty guarentees`
`05:55.34`	`Silik0n`	`i dont want that overhead`
`05:56.26`	`WilliamK`	`buy a few different types of cards that you'd use, keep them as spares... 120 day warranty and charge for each change the user wants =)`
`05:56.27`	`brc_`	`rent-a-astmaster-company then`
`05:56.44`	`brc_`	`who'll provide a warrenty (for the right price of course)`
`05:57.04`	`brc_`	`he`
`05:57.07`	`brc_`	`*h`
`05:57.17`	`WilliamK`	`spare in the air!`
`05:57.19`	`WilliamK`	`=)`
`06:01.49`	`SipChat`	`May I ask an IRC question please?`
`06:02.11`	`JamesDotCom`	`what is it?`
`06:02.40`	`*** join/#asterisk blankman (~blankman@h000d88a1570c.ne.client2.attbi.com)`
`06:02.42`	`SipChat`	`Are there any restrictions on nick names when loging on to IRC servers... e.g. would it be possible to have a nick such as user123.somewhere.com ?`
`06:02.54`	`JamesDotCom`	`that's server dependant`
`06:03.07`	`SipChat`	`Ok... trial and error or read MOTD or support site.`
`06:03.08`	`Dreamless`	`Hey i have a question; "Anyone know if it would be possible to integrate http://www.oscommerce.com/ with asterisk so that u could get a "order status"? "`
`06:03.09`	`SipChat`	`Thanks :)`
`06:03.12`	`JamesDotCom`	`but generally you're only allowed a-z, A-Z, ^ - _`
`06:03.26`	`JamesDotCom`	`and mostpublic irc servers limit nicks to either 9 or 15 chars`
`06:03.26`	`JamesDotCom`	`np`
`06:03.26`	`SipChat`	`Ok... thanks.. so generally no spaces then.`
`06:03.32`	`SipChat`	`:)`
`06:03.34`	`JamesDotCom`	`0 - 9 too`
`06:03.41`	`JamesDotCom`	`nup, no spaces`
`06:03.46`	`SipChat`	`Ok. Thank you.`
`06:03.49`	`JamesDotCom`	`irc protocl wouldnt allow for that`
`06:05.36`	`Silik0n`	`Dreamless what are you talking about? like being able to call into an * box and have it play IVR to give you a status on an order you placed on a oscommerce site?`
`06:06.20`	`Dreamless`	`Silik0n Yes!`
`06:06.31`	`Silik0n`	`it should be possible`
`06:07.10`	`Silik0n`	`i dont see why it wouldnt be, but there would have to be a "connector" written to link them together...`
`06:07.23`	`Dreamless`	`Silik0n i mean both are great open source projects so i just wondered if it hadden been done yet, lots of oscommence shops that sells asterisk setup and phones but they havent intergrated asterisk with oscommence?`
`06:07.28`	`Silik0n`	`i'm sure someone would let you hire them out to write it heh`
`06:08.01`	`Silik0n`	`i dunno if anyones done that ornot... would be fun to playwith tho if they did`
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`06:09.05`	`Dreamless`	`Silik0n fun? The thing i was thinking of doing was to make it able to the customer to "callin" with his/hers ordernumber and get trackandtrace infomation`
`06:09.32`	`Dreamless`	`Silik0n but i think i can manage to do it myself, i just had to find out if it was done before`
`06:09.53`	`Dreamless`	`Silik0n but thanks alot for your help and sorry my rusty english im danish`
`06:10.17`	`Silik0n`	`dunno if its been done but with *'s scripting support it should be pretty easy if you know oscommerce's db layout and stuff`
`06:10.59`	`Dreamless`	`Silik0n yeah i have to look into that...`
`06:11.34`	`brc_`	`should be doable`
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`06:13.09`	`Dreamless`	`yeah i think i will hook up with the danish oscommerce community and get it done, is there a place that i can uploade a guide when its finished?`
`06:13.12`	`seberino`	`can someone recommend cheap beginner voip service company that services southern california please?`
`06:15.16`	`JerJer`	`define services`
`06:15.43`	`seberino`	`i want to make phone calls over my existing dsl`
`06:15.52`	`seberino`	`with a microphone and my pc speakers`
`06:16.06`	`JerJer`	`in gods name why?`
`06:17.25`	`seberino`	`do you like to pay lots for traditional long distance?`
`06:17.39`	`seberino`	`in gods name why?`
`06:17.53`	`JerJer`	`i don't make traditional long distance calls`
`06:18.20`	`JerJer`	`I make VoIP calls with VoIP phones`
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`06:18.42`	`Silik0n`	`people still have old fashion land lines?`
`06:18.50`	`JerJer`	`in fact, i'm using my cordless phone on an IAXy at the moment`
`06:19.04`	`JerJer`	`talking to an IAX2 endpoint`
`06:19.26`	`seberino`	`JerJer: yes but your IP phone can only call other IP phones right?`
`06:19.36`	`JerJer`	`no`
`06:19.55`	`seberino`	`then don't you need some service with a group of asterisk sysadins or something?`
`06:19.58`	`JerJer`	`i can also call any PSTN number out there, if i so desired`
`06:20.28`	`Silik0n`	`seberino there's serveral services that offer VoIP -> PSTN gateway services...`
`06:20.43`	`JerJer`	`more than several`
`06:21.12`	`JerJer`	`more like a gaggle`
`06:21.31`	`Silik0n`	`heh`
`06:21.33`	`Silik0n`	`true dat`
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`06:22.05`	`seberino`	`SilikOn: thanks, and where would i find these happy little gateway services?`
`06:22.14`	`seberino`	`got a url for me? =)`
`06:22.56`	`JerJer`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk`
`06:23.36`	`loko_`	`JerJer any status on DIDs other than MI?`
`06:23.40`	`Silik0n`	`yeah what jerjer said`
`06:23.54`	`Silik0n`	`nufone.net is supposed to be a good service`
`06:24.09`	`Silik0n`	`i havent used it yet tho, but i've heard good stuff about it`
`06:24.21`	`seberino`	`Silik0n: thanks again`
`06:24.32`	`JerJer`	`loko_: no status`
`06:24.49`	`JerJer`	`waiting on US West to complete our build-out`
`06:25.46`	`seberino`	`loko_: what's a DID?`
`06:25.48`	`JerJer`	`and/or to get the thumb out of their ass`
`06:26.01`	`Silik0n`	`and most likely`
`06:26.38`	`brc_`	`seberino, a phone number basically`
`06:26.41`	`menger`	`direct inward dial`
`06:26.45`	`brc_`	`seberino, try http://www.nufone.net`
`06:27.05`	`seberino`	`brc_: k, gracias`
`06:27.06`	`brc_`	`if you really want to use it with a mic on your pc google for "DIAX" and use that`
`06:27.44`	`JerJer`	`spend nine bucks on a headset, yo`
`06:28.27`	`brc_`	`EW...NO...do NOT try to use speakers and a mic`
`06:28.35`	`seberino`	`y not?`
`06:28.37`	`brc_`	`plantronics makes good pc headsets`
`06:28.40`	`brc_`	`it will sound like crap`
`06:28.40`	`menger`	`echo echo echo`
`06:28.50`	`brc_`	`spend 15 bucks on a headset`
`06:28.54`	`seberino`	`ah, all the things i still have to learn`
`06:29.04`	`brc_`	`seberino, search pricegrabber.com for "plantronics headset"`
`06:29.54`	`seberino`	`brc_: does it plug into a pc sound card? so it has 2 plugs... 1 for speaker and one for microphone?`
`06:30.08`	`brc_`	`http://plantronics.com`
`06:30.25`	`brc_`	`reed werds`
`06:31.02`	`m-00kie`	`when parsing an inbound call, am i not able to reroute the call outbound from the same extension rule?`
`06:31.32`	`brc_`	`m-00kie, huh?`
`06:31.35`	`m-00kie`	`ie: Dial(SIP/myext,20) ... Dial(IAX2/failed_call@gw/newnumber)`
`06:31.46`	`brc_`	`more info`
`06:31.54`	`brc_`	`pastebin.ca`
`06:31.56`	`m-00kie`	`lemme paste what im trying to do at pastebin.. hd`
`06:33.03`	`m-00kie`	`http://pastebin.ca/1112`
`06:33.26`	`brc_`	`0..`
`06:33.58`	`m-00kie`	`what im trying to do is if an operator doesnt pick up, it reroutes the call to an 800 # not owned on the server`
`06:34.04`	`brc_`	`show application goto`
`06:34.24`	`brc_`	`it doesn't work like that`
`06:34.27`	`brc_`	`read example carefully`
`06:34.38`	`m-00kie`	`what sample?`
`06:35.07`	`brc_`	`hmm`
`06:35.08`	`brc_`	`nevermind`
`06:35.13`	`brc_`	`looking`
`06:35.18`	`JerJer`	`me fail english, thats unpossible`
`06:36.48`	`brc_`	`and what's it doing exactly?`
`06:36.52`	`brc_`	`wrong`
`06:37.13`	`m-00kie`	`the dial immediately fails, it jumps to n+1 instantly`
`06:37.22`	`m-00kie`	`not n+101`
`06:37.31`	`brc_`	`ya`
`06:38.01`	`blankman`	`Hey all. I have a simple question from the dev session at AstriCon. Can someone tell me exactly what the registration boxes on his "hand" done N plus one arch. diag. are? Are they simply * boxes? What is the mechanism he is using to "route" the call from the reg. servers to the asterisk boxes?`
`06:38.16`	`blankman`	`m-00kie, on which line the sip or the iax dial?`
`06:38.23`	`m-00kie`	`iax`
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`06:39.10`	`blankman`	`are you sure you can connect to it? Meaning is that user allowed to connect to: gw4?`
`06:39.31`	`brc_`	`m-00kie, look at pb`
`06:39.34`	`brc_`	`try tat`
`06:39.56`	`brc_`	`m-00kie, nevermind`
`06:40.11`	`brc_`	`does the cli show that the correct sip extension is being dialed?`
`06:40.39`	`JerJer`	`blankman: they are soft-switches`
`06:40.40`	`m-00kie`	`yeah, the first dial doesnt fail.. i intentionally let it ring here`
`06:40.43`	`brc_`	`WilliamK, try the mailing list....can't help ya sorry`
`06:40.44`	`JerJer`	`ie traffic cops`
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`06:41.32`	`JerJer`	`what mark called a reg box is simply asterisk configured to talk to discrete gateway asterisk configured boxes`
`06:41.34`	`m-00kie`	`pastebin.ca seems down`
`06:42.44`	`blankman`	`JerJer, So how is the user "sent" to the gateway boxes?`
`06:42.49`	`JerJer`	`DIal`
`06:44.00`	`JerJer`	`mark used IAXy's but they could very easly be any other IAX based endpoint`
`06:44.00`	`blankman`	`JerJer, as a transfer? I mean he was saying that IAX will stay in the middle and that if for what ever reason that call can't be setup it will stay there. How does one "release" that call?`
`06:44.42`	`blankman`	`m-00kie, there seems to be lots of pri stuff, but not much on the iax side. Can you get a copy of the call as it stands on the iax side?`
`06:44.44`	`JerJer`	`if there is no nat invovled, IAX will optimize the call path`
`06:45.05`	`JerJer`	`blankman: he is phreakin on his pri problem`
`06:46.08`	`blankman`	`Okay ... but how is the call is the call "transfered" so that the gateway gets "out of the way". Meaning, on the sip side it would be a reinvite right, so what is the process in iax?`
`06:46.15`	`blankman`	`sorry that was for JerJer`
`06:46.37`	`JerJer`	`it just works`
`06:46.47`	`JerJer`	`iax doesn't need the complexity of a reinvite`
`06:46.56`	`JerJer`	`need = have`
`06:47.41`	`JerJer`	`again if there is no nat invovled the soft-switch (or what mark called the reg server) will optimize itself out of the call path`
`06:48.21`	`blankman`	`JerJer, Okay. So is the soft-switch an * box?`
`06:48.26`	`JerJer`	`most certianly`
`06:48.35`	`blankman`	`with just a vanilla config?`
`06:48.49`	`JerJer`	`?!`
`06:48.49`	`blankman`	`zt_dummy and all that.`
`06:48.59`	`JerJer`	`ztdummy is a hack`
`06:49.04`	`blankman`	`no cards in it.`
`06:49.05`	`JerJer`	`and only used for conf and trunk`
`06:49.17`	`JerJer`	`iax2 trunking`
`06:49.45`	`JerJer`	`the soft-switch (reg server) component is asterisk configured to be a soft-switch (reg sever)`
`06:50.38`	`blankman`	`I guess taht is the part that I am unsure of :-) What is a soft-switch configuration?`
`06:51.00`	`JerJer`	`implements that architecture`
`06:51.08`	`JerJer`	`+ a configuration that`
`06:52.35`	`blankman`	`JerJer, So, if I make three boxes, have the reg. servers 'switch' to box one for the lookups. have pri's on box two and three. On box one there is a dial plan that tells reg. boxes where to send, that would work?`
`06:52.35`	`pachell`	`anyone know what would cause a "400 bad request" sip error, when calling from phone to phone (on asterisk software) ?`
`06:52.50`	`pachell`	`both phones are using ulaw codec, a 7912 and 7960`
`06:53.09`	`pachell`	`i can't call from the 12 to the 60`
`06:53.22`	`JerJer`	`blankman: i don't follow`
`06:53.40`	`JerJer`	`mark's diagram was pretty clear on the logical connections`
`06:54.11`	`JerJer`	`http://photos.tropiano.org/gallery/astricon-2004-3/IMG_0018`
`06:54.32`	`blankman`	`I want to have the reg. servers not have the configurations. So i will them up to use the switch statement from the "one box to rule them all". That box's dialplan will tell the reg. servers which gateway to send stuff to.`
`06:54.53`	`blankman`	`JerJer, on the diag. I have that right. I am adding something to make supporting easier ;-)`
`06:55.02`	`JerJer`	`why authenticate on each gateway?`
`06:55.20`	`JerJer`	`i authenticate at the soft-switch`
`06:55.21`	`blankman`	`JerJer, not on the gateways, on the reg. servers.`
`06:55.34`	`JerJer`	`then use RSA to secure gateway's down`
`06:55.35`	`blankman`	`yeah, sorry the soft-switches`
`06:56.25`	`JerJer`	`i'm not a big fan of the switch statement`
`06:56.34`	`blankman`	`okay ... I am starting to see that works, sorry, I had to set the boxes up a different way from the way I had them. It is interesting the packets from the gateway go directly from them to the iaxy's ... pretty interesting.`
`06:56.54`	`JerJer`	`those are logical connections`
`06:57.02`	`JerJer`	`in that diagram`
`06:57.04`	`blankman`	`Me neither, but I am a big fan of "cheaper" COO :-)`
`06:57.12`	`JerJer`	`the iaxy registers to the reg servers`
`06:57.37`	`JerJer`	`and, i guess, the gateways regiser to the reg servers`
`06:57.38`	`blankman`	`Yup ... now that I can see the packets flowing, I am starting to understand ... what happens when nat comes in to play?`
`06:57.42`	`*** join/#asterisk jsk (~jsk@66.169.130.10.ts46v-06.otnb2.ftwrth.tx.charter.com)`
`06:57.45`	`JerJer`	`proxy`
`06:57.48`	`jsk`	`hy all`
`06:57.52`	`JerJer`	`moo`
`06:58.01`	`blankman`	`Cost of operations`
`06:58.21`	`JerJer`	`then don't NAT`
`06:58.21`	`blankman`	`I think that is what you were asking with moo right?`
`06:59.02`	`JerJer`	`what does a cow say when you say hi to it?`
`06:59.49`	`blankman`	`Ummmm .... don't have a choice in some instances ... we have boxes that we were are putting at SMB sites that ... the moo ... thing :-) ... need to have nat.`
`07:00.20`	`JerJer`	`the nat is only an issue on your end`
`07:00.51`	`JerJer`	`put public ip's on both the reg servers and the gateways`
`07:00.55`	`JerJer`	`problem solved`
`07:01.22`	`blankman`	`So this is cool to watch on/at the packet level :-D Do we care that the client never auth'd to the gateway?`
`07:01.37`	`JerJer`	`no`
`07:01.43`	`blankman`	`Umm to your comment about Public IP's on both ... the gateways are in NH and the machines are in NJ say.`
`07:01.44`	`JerJer`	`the soft-switch authenticated the call`
`07:01.56`	`JerJer`	`to the gateway with rsa`
`07:01.59`	`JerJer`	`(in my case, at least)`
`07:03.09`	`blankman`	`So it is a trust thing then? (MD5)IAXy <--> (MD5)Soft-switch(RSA)<-->(RSA)Gateway ... right?`
`07:03.33`	`JerJer`	`yep`
`07:04.58`	`blankman`	`So my issue will be that the Soft-switch is CPE and the Gateway is in co-lo. The client has 1 IP so the reg. server is NAT'd and then the Gateways are LB through a CoyotePoint.`
`07:07.32`	`*** join/#asterisk NoRemorse (~me@w01-84.wireless.alphalink.com.au)`
`07:07.37`	`JerJer`	`?`
`07:08.00`	`JerJer`	`you run a soft-switch(s) as part of your operation`
`07:08.04`	`blankman`	`Actually this is how it would look: <IAXY> -no nat- <reg. server> - no nate - < fw if1 > - nat - <fw if0> -pub. ip - <fw if0> - nat - <fw if1> - no nat - < cp if0 > - nat - <cp if1> - no nat - <*>`
`07:08.06`	`JerJer`	`plus you run gateways`
`07:08.16`	`JerJer`	`what ?!`
`07:08.41`	`JerJer`	`that's fucking crazyness`
`07:08.45`	`blankman`	`so that is the interface paths for the way that something would come across the networks :-)`
`07:09.01`	`JerJer`	`why in hell do you need NAT at your NOC?`
`07:09.50`	`blankman`	`Least, we currently run it that ... long story, but basically it is for security and Failure reduction.`
`07:09.50`	`*** join/#asterisk bityen (~blah@c-67-160-217-46.client.comcast.net)`
`07:09.54`	`bityen`	`hi!`
`07:10.03`	`blankman`	`bityen, hey`
`07:10.16`	`bityen`	`wow, i just heard of asterisk from slashdot`
`07:10.16`	`JerJer`	`it is evil`
`07:10.20`	`blankman`	`:-)`
`07:10.27`	`bityen`	`and there's already 247 people here!`
`07:10.44`	`blankman`	`lets just say it is "interesting" ;-)`
`07:10.46`	`bityen`	`crazy :)`
`07:10.53`	`bityen`	`I want to setup my own vonage company`
`07:11.15`	`bityen`	`is asterisk the beast that will do it?`
`07:11.16`	`blankman`	`bityen, so get a machine and connect to VP :p`
`07:12.03`	`blankman`	`JerJer, so it is cool. I will take me some time to setup the lab for all the nat test'n, but I will let you know how it goes :-)`
`07:12.08`	`bityen`	`brb`
`07:12.09`	`*** part/#asterisk bityen (~blah@c-67-160-217-46.client.comcast.net)`
`07:12.17`	`JerJer`	`it won't work`
`07:12.28`	`blankman`	`You of little faith ;-)`
`07:12.48`	`JerJer`	`if the reg server and the gateway are natted from the customer, the reg server will have to proxy that bandwidth`
`07:13.11`	`*** join/#asterisk dkh (~blah@c-67-160-217-46.client.comcast.net)`
`07:13.14`	`dkh`	`k back`
`07:13.21`	`blankman`	`actually, I am sure you know more than me, but I just want to see what that packets are going to look like. It is pretty cool to just see the reg. server "leave" the conversation :-)`
`07:13.55`	`JerJer`	`that is what my switch-X systems do`
`07:15.00`	`brc_`	`dkh == bityen?`
`07:15.02`	`brc_`	`nm`
`07:15.10`	`dkh`	`yah :)`
`07:15.11`	`blankman`	`how, come it wont work with the nats? Is this cause the "route" is already optimized as far as the Gateway server is concerned? Meaning there is no way to tell the difference between the iaxy and the reg server?`
`07:16.48`	`JerJer`	`the customer and the gateway have to be able to directly communicate`
`07:18.11`	`blankman`	`ummm why aren't they? I mean here I will type it again:`
`07:19.20`	`blankman`	`iaxy(nat'd) <--> reg(nat'd)[fw] <-->[fw] <--> [cp] <--> gateway(nat'd).`
`07:19.23`	`blankman`	`Packet goes:`
`07:20.19`	`ManxPower`	`Won't the IAXy need an account on the gateway?`
`07:20.39`	`*** join/#asterisk isamar (isamar@p8131-ipadfx21sasajima.aichi.ocn.ne.jp)`
`07:20.41`	`isamar`	`hi folks`
`07:20.45`	`JerJer`	`not if you do it right`
`07:20.55`	`blankman`	`192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.254 to 66.55.33.22 to 64.63.62.61 to 172.1.1.254 to 172.1.1.2 to 172.2.1.254 to 172.2.1.2`
`07:21.06`	`isamar`	`looking for an fxo adapter.. what do you guys recommend?`
`07:21.19`	`blankman`	`digium card.`
`07:21.19`	`isamar`	`so far I found this:`
`07:21.20`	`ManxPower`	`blankman: Oh! portforward on the gateway firewall`
`07:21.21`	`isamar`	`http://voipstore.pulver.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=11&products_id=31`
`07:21.34`	`JerJer`	`isamar: TDM04B`
`07:21.35`	`blankman`	`Nope, not port forwarding.`
`07:21.40`	`blankman`	`just IP's.`
`07:21.44`	`isamar`	`blankman: I said adapter.. I would by Iaxy.. but it's FXS`
`07:21.48`	`ManxPower`	`blankman: Well better start then`
`07:21.59`	`JerJer`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:22.12`	`brc_`	`isamar, how many ports you need?`
`07:22.24`	`isamar`	`JerJer: no thanks. I have one already`
`07:22.26`	`NoRemorse`	`hi any ata gurus here please? I need to wortk out how to do a dial plan on it so it rings properly`
`07:22.37`	`brc_`	`isamar?....`
`07:22.42`	`blankman`	`isamar, you can get the tdm in 0x4, 1x3, 2x2, 3x1, or 4x0. They are (FXSxFX0).`
`07:22.44`	`isamar`	`I need initially 5..`
`07:22.46`	`JerJer`	`isamar: so then what is your problem?`
`07:22.52`	`brc_`	`what's the prob?...`
`07:22.55`	`brc_`	`tdm's rock`
`07:23.12`	`blankman`	`isamar, Eight whats?`
`07:23.33`	`isamar`	`JerJer: I need to put this adapter in a customer, 200km from me... I had problems a lot with TDM04b and I scared to travel everytime to there, if it hangs`
`07:23.38`	`blankman`	`isamar, sorry, five whats ... it is getting late.`
`07:23.52`	`brc_`	`isamar, serial console....network power switch...`
`07:23.57`	`isamar`	`I need initially 5 ports`
`07:24.27`	`NoRemorse`	`do I need a dialplan for the ata that reflects my * dialplan? the dialtine I get is local on the ata so what decides when the number is sent thru to * ?`
`07:24.37`	`isamar`	`recently I tried to substitute a common PBX to TDM04B + TDM40B and it was tragedy`
`07:24.42`	`blankman`	`isamar, put a cheap server in then. Buy a rose electronic powerswitch and there you go.`
`07:24.49`	`brc_`	`NoRemorse, read the samples from cisco`
`07:24.59`	`NoRemorse`	`ok`
`07:25.04`	`isamar`	`anything similar to Iaxy but with FXO port?`
`07:25.05`	`NoRemorse`	`on the ata software download page?`
`07:25.38`	`NoRemorse`	`or is it included in the firmware zip?`
`07:26.16`	`JerJer`	`Sipua 3000 ?`
`07:26.18`	`blankman`	`So JerJer, did you understand my IP signaling? Did it make any sense? Basically, the only thing that I can think of is that the gateway will already think that the route is optimized since it is seeing the same ip from both the iaxy and the star box.`
`07:26.19`	`JerJer`	`+r`
`07:26.22`	`*** join/#asterisk etcp (chris@home.etcp.co.uk)`
`07:26.25`	`JerJer`	`no`
`07:26.26`	`isamar`	`ok`
`07:26.34`	`postel`	`NoRemorse: nope, the url for the ATA admin guide IS in the firmwarezip tho ;-)`
`07:27.06`	`JerJer`	`the customer iax box has to be able to talk directly to both the soft-switch and the gateway for iax to optimze the soft-swich out of the call path`
`07:27.37`	`JerJer`	`how you make that happen, is up to you`
`07:27.50`	`JerJer`	`i use public ip addys`
`07:28.08`	`isamar`	`thanks`
`07:28.19`	`JerJer`	`Thank you, drive-thru`
`07:29.15`	`blankman`	`So if the call can go iaxy to gateway meaning in the iaxy conf server: gateway.acmeco.com it should work?`
`07:29.41`	`JerJer`	`no`
`07:30.03`	`JerJer`	`you do not understand the concepts here`
`07:31.29`	`brc_`	`NEXT!`
`07:32.24`	`postel`	`brc_: 2 burgers and cherry coke`
`07:32.34`	`blankman`	`I didn't mean to imply that I did. I will read the IAX code and see what I can figure out from that then.`
`07:32.50`	`brc_`	`postel, would you like to make those a meal?`
`07:33.00`	`brc_`	`postel, only $3.99 more`
`07:33.05`	`foxdevel`	`anyone have a moment to spare to join me in an experiment in exploring the depths of my own inabilty to learn simple things?`
`07:33.14`	`JerJer`	`no`
`07:33.15`	`postel`	`brc_: make it whatever you want it.. just make it FAST ;P`
`07:33.27`	`brc_`	`postel, okay, would you like to go supersize?`
`07:33.31`	`brc_`	`89 cents`
`07:33.33`	`postel`	`hahahah`
`07:33.43`	`postel`	`dont u HATE THEM when they do that?`
`07:33.48`	`brc_`	`your total is $18.83`
`07:34.04`	`brc_`	`please give me a 5, and 18 ones`
`07:34.18`	`brc_`	`and 88 pennies`
`07:34.21`	`blankman`	`foxdevel, What is that you needed?`
`07:34.43`	`brc_`	`~google special extensions site:voip-info.org`
`07:34.53`	`brc_`	`Docelm0,`
`07:35.04`	`foxdevel`	`i am going some of the docs and wondering if I wrote a few simple configs properly`
`07:35.32`	`brc_`	`~google special extension s site:voip-info.org`
`07:35.52`	`blankman`	`which ones? I can't help much with sip ... and if JerJer were asked IAX either ;-)`
`07:36.04`	`brc_`	`Docelm0, see the first link there under 'Predefined Extension Names'`
`07:36.09`	`foxdevel`	`hehe its my zapata.conf file`
`07:37.37`	`blankman`	`So put it up somewhere and I will look at it. What is the issue you are wondering about? Did you try it?`
`07:38.22`	`foxdevel`	`no we are havign some weather issues around here and I cannot get to the box at the office but I was hoping someone could just look it over and see if I would be wasting my time trying to load it up`
`07:38.57`	`foxdevel`	`i posted t at www.planetreach.com/asterisk/zapata.conf`
`07:39.00`	`EarlGrey`	`i'm new to asterisk and just about to print out some of the conf files as they seem to have a lot of good comments`
`07:39.23`	`EarlGrey`	`which ones are the best to look over?`
`07:39.48`	`EarlGrey`	`just looking to get more of a basic grounding`
`07:43.28`	`blankman`	`foxdevel, K, so what you want to know?`
`07:44.16`	`foxdevel`	`just wondering if the thing even looks mildly accurate like did I establish the channels properly?`
`07:45.51`	`blankman`	`foxdevel, well ... it is fine for what you have in it, but you haven't setup any of the card stuff. Why are you using zapata.conf?`
`07:46.06`	`dkh`	`what is WiSip?`
`07:47.59`	`brc_`	`Wifi SIP phone`
`07:48.09`	`brc_`	`wireless....I hear they work...but aren't great`
`07:48.33`	`foxdevel`	`at the moment the only thing on the box is a raw install of asterisk, fedora, one 4 port FXS card and one 4 port FXO card`
`07:49.06`	`brc_`	`dkh, pm`
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`07:50.13`	`blankman`	`okay, so ... it looks fine for that. Did you try running it?`
`07:50.53`	`foxdevel`	`no and it looks like it may be monday before i can get to the box, expecting the hurricane to really tear some stuff up around here tomorrow`
`07:51.06`	`blankman`	`The best way to get to know * is to try things.`
`07:51.35`	`brc_`	`yes`
`07:51.45`	`blankman`	`ummmm ... okay, well, from the looks of it, it should be fine.`
`07:52.12`	`foxdevel`	`hehe yeah i have a few machines in my lab that are a testament to my willingness to try things`
`07:52.35`	`blankman`	`give it a try then come back on line if you have questions as to why it isn't working ;-) but that almost never happens :p`
`07:52.42`	`kb8ude`	`who knows the best place to find the cheap winmodem cards for the FXO interface?`
`07:52.55`	`brc_`	`http://www.digium.com`
`07:52.56`	`foxdevel`	`i definately appreciate your time blankman`
`07:53.01`	`brc_`	`support digium`
`07:53.15`	`blankman`	`* is so good it just works ... the docs are crystal clear and plentiful ... that are no un doc'd features ... :D`
`07:53.19`	`brc_`	`no digium == no drivers`
`07:53.29`	`brc_`	`blankman, liar :p`
`07:53.43`	`kb8ude`	`i'm playing with the stuff just for something to do, not to actually implement a pbx somwhere`
`07:53.59`	`kb8ude`	`the more it costs the less i care to learn about it`
`07:54.00`	`blankman`	`kb8ude, give it time.`
`07:54.13`	`brc_`	`yep`
`07:54.34`	`blankman`	`you will start the next Bell ;-) and we can all say we knew you when :-)`
`07:54.49`	`Docelm0`	`Who.. Just so I can say that..`
`07:54.53`	`kb8ude`	`of course if i actually learn it and become proficient, then i may be inclined to buy some of the expensive multiport cards`
`07:55.10`	`blankman`	`coarse you wont remember the little people that got you there ...`
`07:55.42`	`blankman`	`kb8ude, why? Just set a box up and let people call you? It is getting so cheap to buy boxes that I don't really know why we are buying phones anymore.`
`07:55.46`	`kb8ude`	`until then, i'm only into it for a few bucks so when i get bored i won't care that i spent less than $20`
`07:55.57`	`foxdevel`	`hehe yeah`
`07:56.11`	`brc_`	`kb8ude, those aren't just "multi port cards" they are quad span PRI/t1/e1 cards for LESS THEN 2 grand!`
`07:56.15`	`blankman`	`I am working on a live install that just boots up to a softphone (iaxcomm based).`
`07:56.23`	`kb8ude`	`i live at home still, and the parents tend to bitch about me futzing with the phone stuff`
`07:56.24`	`blankman`	`yup :-)`
`07:56.30`	`brc_`	`blankman, we...why would you want that?`
`07:56.37`	`brc_`	`servers should NOT be clients`
`07:56.54`	`blankman`	`don't tell the rents ... they don't really want to know anyway ;-o`
`07:56.59`	`blankman`	`why?`
`07:57.06`	`brc_`	`just cauz`
`07:57.07`	`blankman`	`Should servers be clients?`
`07:57.15`	`brc_`	`no! :p`
`07:57.22`	`brc_`	`is this for embedded platforms?`
`07:57.24`	`kb8ude`	`nah i'm not talking T! multiport...i'm looking at those pci cards that take the modules, maybe one fxo...then 3 fxs would be nice`
`07:57.25`	`brc_`	`or demo's?`
`07:57.28`	`brc_`	`or..`
`07:57.35`	`brc_`	`kb8ude, tdm400's`
`07:57.41`	`kb8ude`	`i'm doing it just to play`
`07:57.47`	`brc_`	`riiiiiiight`
`07:57.48`	`brc_`	`:p`
`07:57.51`	`blankman`	`by the way the single span card are much cheaper ... start small grow big :-)`
`07:58.16`	`kb8ude`	`brc_ yeah the tdm400 looks nice`
`07:58.20`	`blankman`	`For us, it is all of the above. We are thinking of putting phones on milk cartons.`
`07:58.20`	`brc_`	`kb8ude, we all know you are just sekretly here from at&t and are planning to replace the backbone routers with asterisk!`
`07:58.36`	`kb8ude`	`haha you found me out`
`07:58.59`	`brc_`	`kb8ude, sorry dude I know you're just doing your job but I'm going to be forced to report you`
`07:59.50`	`blankman`	`There is a company that just got the patent for putting the little mini-cds (176mb) disk on the sides of milk cartons. We have toyed with the idea of "giving" phones away on that. Make a live instance and then put them on the boxes.`
`07:59.50`	`kb8ude`	`i figured i'd buy one of the cheap winmodems, then try to score a bugetone on ebay and that's about the limit of what i wanted to spend`
`08:00.09`	`kb8ude`	`*budgetone`
`08:00.18`	`blankman`	`It is cheaper to buy a 386 and sound card.`
`08:00.29`	`blankman`	`Plus you will have more fun :-)`
`08:00.29`	`brc_`	`ew! no!`
`08:00.37`	`brc_`	`chan_oss/alsa?`
`08:00.57`	`blankman`	`Most of the time you can get people to pay one to take the PC away :-)`
`08:01.02`	`brc_`	`blankman, (mini-cds_ HAHHHW AHA HBAHABHAA`
`08:01.11`	`brc_`	`OMG THAT IS SO F LAME`
`08:01.24`	`brc_`	`A PATENT for sticking stuff to the side of a milk carton?`
`08:01.26`	`brc_`	`that is INSANE`
`08:01.40`	`brc_`	`~cluebat stupid lame patent office`
`08:01.42`	`jbot`	`ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps stupid lame patent office.`
`08:01.54`	`blankman`	`Well actually, it was alittle hard than you might think cause of the process that is used to "boxize" the cartons.`
`08:02.17`	`kb8ude`	`you guys ever see the mini-cds that are cut to be business card size? set up a live distro and requisite voip stuff so that you can hand them to people and they can call you for your services`
`08:02.26`	`brc_`	`kb8ude, uhh dude ...see above`
`08:02.40`	`blankman`	`The line for the milk guys is pretty messed in someways. Yup ... that is what we do :-)`
`08:02.40`	`brc_`	`oh`
`08:02.44`	`brc_`	`eh...nobody would use it`
`08:02.54`	`brc_`	`business card cd's are totally un-cool these days`
`08:02.56`	`brc_`	`too thick`
`08:02.57`	`blankman`	`brc_, use what?`
`08:03.08`	`kb8ude`	`well it sounded cool`
`08:03.14`	`brc_`	`:p`
`08:03.38`	`brc_`	`I haven't had somebody give me a biz-card-cd at a tradeshow in quite awhile`
`08:03.49`	`brc_`	`used to get them all the time 2-3 years ago`
`08:03.57`	`kb8ude`	`i've only ever seen one in actual use`
`08:06.04`	`blankman`	`well I am off. good luck with the storm kb8ude.`
`08:06.10`	`kb8ude`	`so can anyone answer my original question or are you guys still taking the hardline on that one?`
`08:06.55`	`kb8ude`	`take it easy blankman`
`08:07.32`	`blankman`	`in answer to your orig. ? I am not sure, we buy cards :-) But if I were to guess ... ebay.`
`08:07.50`	`brc_`	`ebay...`
`08:08.35`	`kb8ude`	`is the x100p the same as any other winmodem of the same chipset or is it something special?`
`08:09.21`	`brc_`	`no clue`
`08:09.37`	`pachell`	`anyone have any idea why i would get a "bad request 400" on a cisco 7960 for inbound calls only?`
`08:09.52`	`brc_`	`firmwareversion?`
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`08:10.38`	`pachell`	`hrmm, it's running 7.1 (sip)`
`08:10.55`	`pachell`	`let's see what happens if i downgrade the phone`
`08:10.56`	`brc_`	`7.2`
`08:11.04`	`brc_`	`out`
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`08:30.32`	`pachell`	`aghhh`
`08:33.45`	`NoRemorse`	`is 7.2 no go?`
`08:55.42`	`pachell`	`oh, i don't have 7.2 handy`
`08:59.04`	`_Vile`	`my face is on the side of a milk carton`
`09:00.01`	`_Vile`	`btw, someone should write an opensource pbx..`
`09:00.05`	`_Vile`	`gnight`
`09:07.09`	`DA-MAN`	`lol`
`09:07.25`	`DA-MAN`	`someone should write an open source pbx, isnt that asterisk`
`09:12.30`	`_Vile`	`<grin>`
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`09:16.54`	`EarlGrey`	`just a quickie .... after changing conf files i presume i need to restart asterisk? how do i go about this?`
`09:17.19`	`miller7`	`EarlGrey: you either do a "reload" or you read the docs for such a simple thing`
`09:19.21`	`EarlGrey`	`ok just knee deep in it all and looking for such a simple thing could end up making me forget somthing less simple`
`09:19.37`	`EarlGrey`	`thanks for the answer though`
`09:19.52`	`miller7`	`if you type help there are a lot of commands too`
`09:20.07`	`EarlGrey`	`:) thanks`
`09:20.19`	`miller7`	`you know, these things are obvious though, ok?`
`09:20.37`	`miller7`	`help, reload, stop, exit, quit are the first thigns someone tries`
`09:20.59`	`miller7`	`anyway, if you need any more help we're here`
`09:21.16`	`miller7`	`also you can search google and the wiki`
`09:23.45`	`EarlGrey`	`after completeing the mission of geting it installed and configured i've been on a mission to get a call going once i get there i'll be printing like crazy so i can do lots and lots of reading on a trip i'm about to take`
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`09:25.20`	`miller7`	`cool`
`09:25.33`	`miller7`	`I assume you learned about asterisk from slashdot 2 days ago?`
`09:25.41`	`postel`	`heh`
`09:27.47`	`pachell`	`it doesn't help that 1.0.0 is released via www/ftp download as well`
`09:27.59`	`pachell`	`now every shortbus lamer under the sun is going to be all over this`
`09:28.10`	`EarlGrey`	`been trying`
`09:28.42`	`miller7`	`pachell: what can you do... telephony is the new web hosting business`
`09:28.57`	`miller7`	`unlimited at $3,95`
`09:29.15`	`miller7`	`indeed`
`09:29.16`	`EarlGrey`	`it's finding the line between being made over confident by the people that say it's piss and scared shitless by the ppl who say it's sooo dificult`
`09:29.45`	`EarlGrey`	`yea i know sorry guys pleas bear with me :)`
`09:29.56`	`miller7`	`EarlGrey: you haven't done anything wrong man`
`09:30.19`	`miller7`	`it's just that there has been bad signs lately`
`09:30.50`	`miller7`	`like "marketeers" spamming asterisk mailing lists, "marketeers" using it for voice spam etc`
`09:31.32`	`miller7`	`script kiddies asking how to fake callerid intensively etc etc. It gets annoying from a point`
`09:31.58`	`EarlGrey`	`mmm i can imagine`
`09:32.20`	`miller7`	`btw, best suggestion I have to make to you is to read the wiki`
`09:32.37`	`miller7`	`http://www.voip-info.org/`
`09:32.42`	`EarlGrey`	`k`
`09:32.44`	`EarlGrey`	`:)`
`09:32.47`	`miller7`	`you'll find tons of stuff there`
`09:35.58`	`Docelm0`	`Quick question for someone.. In my dialplan.. Im doing a _91X. and when it passes to my trunk its passing the 9 also.. How do I make it so it doesnt pass the 9 and the number?`
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`09:36.21`	`miller7`	`${EXTEN:1}`
`09:36.34`	`Docelm0`	`That will kill the 9 cool..`
`09:37.12`	`miller7`	`you want to send the number and not the 9, right?`
`09:37.18`	`Docelm0`	`yep`
`09:37.23`	`miller7`	`ok, that will do then`
`09:38.25`	`Docelm0`	`I also am going to have more than one DID.. How do I pass the DID for the caller ID information to my carrier?`
`09:38.44`	`miller7`	`sigh`
`09:38.54`	`Docelm0`	`If its complex nevermind..`
`09:39.04`	`miller7`	`http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20cmd%20SetCallerID`
`09:39.16`	`Docelm0`	`thanks..`
`09:45.37`	`zeckill`	`could anyone please tell me how well does the Iaxy device perform as a FXS ?`
`09:50.33`	`zeckill`	`nobody has one?`
`09:50.49`	`manipura`	`I don't know anyone with one`
`09:51.00`	`miller7`	`Digium has :P`
`09:51.15`	`zeckill`	`um... interesting`
`09:51.34`	`zeckill`	`is it because of the costy price tag ... or bad words about it ?`
`09:52.03`	`miller7`	`perhaps people who are awake now don't need it`
`09:52.17`	`zeckill`	`um... I guess :~)`
`09:52.24`	`miller7`	`perhaps others find the codecs included not good for what they need IAXy for`
`09:52.32`	`zeckill`	`and is it true that the S100 has been terminated?`
`09:53.11`	`Sid`	`i use a linejack for my FXS`
`09:53.13`	`Sid`	`works well enough`
`09:53.18`	`zeckill`	`ard: I have read at Voxilla that there is actually a FXS module (from TDM400) inside the Iaxy`
`09:53.18`	`ard`	`Heh... personally I am very interested what happened to the S100U ...`
`09:53.50`	`ard`	`Yeah... I cannot understand it... Most people want an fxo, not an fxs...`
`09:54.30`	`miller7`	`I am pretty sure Digium knows better what the market asks for`
`09:54.44`	`zeckill`	`ard: maybe switching in a FXO module could make Iaxy works as FXO ? :~)`
`09:54.56`	`ard`	`doubt it...`
`09:55.40`	`zeckill`	`I guess that's have to do with the firmware as well`
`09:55.42`	`ard`	`As an fxs you can determine easily if a phone is off-hook, but as an fxo it is really a pain to determine if the call is terminated from the other side...`
`09:56.04`	`ard`	`And I guess that kind of stuff is done in some nifty dsp software ;-)`
`09:56.39`	`ard`	`I am actually wondering if I can use my smartlink usb modem as an fxo...`
`09:56.55`	`ard`	`I mean: what do people really expect from an fxo...`
`09:57.36`	`Sid`	`anything that lets you treat the PSTN as an audio output will work as an FXO with the right tweaking... most winmodems hide the specs quite well though`
`09:57.55`	`Sid`	`the i537 being a notable exception`
`09:58.45`	`ard`	`the smartlink is really a very simple usb audio device. I currently wrote software to use it in combination with a headset to have computer aided calling (for calling centers)`
`09:59.18`	`Sid`	`so all the stuff to do say, go off hook, detect ring, etc is easily accessible to the developer?`
`09:59.40`	`miller7`	`ard: what's the model of this smartlink device?`
`09:59.42`	`Sid`	`that's a bit unusual :)`
`09:59.44`	`ard`	`Sid Yep...`
`09:59.54`	`Sid`	`brb`
`10:00.29`	`ard`	`Nope, it is not unusual.. It is a very stupid modem. It is actually an audio device which can go on-off hook, and can do ring detection.`
`10:00.44`	`ard`	`All the nice features lies in the host software...`
`10:00.59`	`zeckill`	`Sid: any other software that you know of... which make use of the i537 as an FXO on Win32 ?`
`10:01.05`	`ard`	`The beaty is that it is really 17 euro!`
`10:01.52`	`ard`	`the smartlink stuf is based on the st7554 (usb interface/simple uC) and stlc7550 (audio codec)`
`10:01.58`	`Sid`	`zeckill: nope`
`10:02.01`	`Sid`	`strangely enough`
`10:02.10`	`Sid`	`why win32 though?`
`10:02.23`	`ard`	`It is so cheap it is probably available for any local PSTN standard..`
`10:02.34`	`Sid`	`i wish that quicknet still made the linejack`
`10:02.39`	`Sid`	`and had an updated PCI version`
`10:02.42`	`Sid`	`that was a quality fxo`
`10:02.42`	`zeckill`	`Sid: just because of the new Astwind inspiring my thinking`
`10:02.55`	`Sid`	`the PCI ones are fxs-only`
`10:03.20`	`zeckill`	`Sid: what's speical about the linkjack which makes it a "good" fxo ?`
`10:03.31`	`Sid`	`zeckill: the onboard codec, for one`
`10:03.41`	`Sid`	`you can throw G729 at it, and it'll decode in real time`
`10:03.45`	`Sid`	`and re-encode in the other direction`
`10:03.49`	`ard`	`Sid : well, for the smartlink you have to cancel the line echo at least... I've got that working with the echo canceler from speex..`
`10:03.57`	`Sid`	`made a few 729-only call manager rollouts easily enough`
`10:04.03`	`zeckill`	`Sid: oh... that off-loads Asterisk server's CPU ?`
`10:04.04`	`Sid`	`ard: rad.`
`10:04.09`	`Sid`	`zeckill: yes.`
`10:04.11`	`ard`	`But I do not know what to do about remote echo's (which should be fixed by the remote telco's though)`
`10:04.27`	`Sid`	`ard: let the remote figure it out, and you should be fine :)`
`10:04.42`	`zeckill`	`Sid: u know about the Personal Phone Gateway software?`
`10:04.48`	`ard`	`Nope.... That's not the way it works in a calling center :-(`
`10:04.50`	`Sid`	`zeckill: nope, whats that do for you`
`10:05.21`	`ard`	`But it will work for most people though, so I will write an asterisk chan for it... Heh, or make a zap driver?`
`10:05.36`	`Sid`	`probably its own channel would be a better bet...`
`10:06.08`	`ard`	`Actually I can copy a lot from chan_oss I guess...`
`10:06.54`	`ard`	`Hmmm... something is eating up (and heating up) my notebook cpu`
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`10:13.33`	`momo22`	`hallo`
`10:14.05`	`momo22`	`gibts es hier deutschsprachige asterisk user?`
`10:16.14`	`srt`	`momo22: sure`
`10:16.23`	`Sid`	`momo22: i have no idea what you just said.`
`10:16.45`	`momo22`	`i want to know some about the feature of asterisk`
`10:16.55`	`Sid`	`it does stuff with things :)`
`10:17.00`	`Sid`	`what did you want to know?`
`10:17.09`	`momo22`	`can i use it commercial`
`10:17.33`	`Sid`	`it's GPL, so you can do whatever you want with it as long as you distribute any changes you make to the source to anybody you give a copy of the modified binaries to`
`10:17.58`	`momo22`	`i want to know about the cost of every call`
`10:18.25`	`Sid`	`asterisk will log each call, whether it was successful, how long it was, etc`
`10:18.28`	`Sid`	`if thats what you mean`
`10:18.44`	`momo22`	`i want to use asterisk in a call shop`
`10:19.05`	`momo22`	`and i want to make a bill about every call`
`10:19.15`	`Sid`	`that's easy enough to do`
`10:19.19`	`srt`	`then just do it ;)`
`10:19.22`	`zeckill`	`that's a supported feature`
`10:19.24`	`Sid`	`you can back the cdr stuff into pgsql or unixodbc without too much hassle`
`10:20.24`	`momo22`	`so i can make a bill client for a windows client?!`
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`10:21.08`	`srt`	`momo22: sure, you can`
`10:21.20`	`momo22`	`i hope so`
`10:21.20`	`momo22`	`:-)`
`10:21.45`	`momo22`	`what is about a feature like least cost routing`
`10:21.58`	`Sid`	`thats easy, as long as 'cost' is determined by the dial pattern`
`10:22.27`	`Sid`	`i have my asterisk box here set up to route '0352XXXXXX' and '0355XXXXXX' out a pair of FXOs, and everything else goes via IAX to another site to go out their ISDN`
`10:23.15`	`zeckill`	`could anyone please tell me how well does the Iaxy device perform as a FXS ?`
`10:24.10`	`zeckill`	`Sid: Iax works well behind NAT, correct?`
`10:24.12`	`momo22`	`HOW ASTERISK KNOW WHAT IS THE CHEAPEST OFFER`
`10:24.25`	`Sid`	`zeckill: it uses the same udp port in each direction`
`10:24.29`	`Sid`	`so yeah`
`10:24.38`	`Sid`	`momo22: BY ROUTE PATTERN.`
`10:24.40`	`Sid`	`yikes`
`10:24.55`	`Sid`	`if your telco doesn't do geographical number allocation, then you're fucked.`
`10:25.56`	`Sid`	`but.. meh.. that's just me`
`10:26.29`	`momo22`	`HAVE ASTERISK THE FEATURE TO AUTOMATICLY UPDATE THE PRICELISTS OF CARRIERS`
`10:26.44`	`Sid`	`somebody ban this dickhead please`
`10:27.20`	`nextime`	`Sid : ther's a better solution than geographical call routing.. you can just send calls over a trunk to an other remote asterisk of one of your clients via iax trunk, rotfl`
`10:27.35`	`Sid`	`nextime: yes, and make the client pick up the bill? ;)`
`10:27.36`	`Sid`	`hehe`
`10:27.37`	`miller7`	`momo22: asterisk automatically downloads pricelists via XML and SOAP`
`10:27.57`	`momo22`	`OKI THANKS`
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`10:28.58`	`zeckill`	`what is the application of a "iax trunk" anyways?`
`10:29.21`	`Sid`	`iax trunking allows multiple calls over the same UDP data stream`
`10:29.25`	`Sid`	`you need high resolution timers to make it work tho`
`10:29.38`	`nextime`	`Sid : sure, "we are technician, we have to test your phone lines!"`
`10:29.38`	`Sid`	`you can get that from an RTC wedge, your USB controller, or a zaptel-alike interface`
`10:30.20`	`Sid`	`brb`
`10:30.33`	`zeckill`	`Sid: let's say if I want to have multiple box of Asterisk works as one... is that what I use ? (iax trunking)`
`10:31.04`	`Sid`	`zeckill: yes. gone now.`
`10:32.02`	`nextime`	`why the fucking meetme control web interface is so shitting malfuncioning? bah, i have to rewrite 50% of suck php code to make it working good`
`10:32.31`	`zeckill`	`Sid: ok :~)`
`10:34.33`	`ard`	`pretty low latency though!`
`10:34.51`	`ard`	`(zap= zaphfc on a winchip 233MHz)`
`10:36.55`	`zeckill`	`nextime, released under GPL ? :P`
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`10:38.24`	`manipura`	`Can anyone help me install astcc?`
`10:38.33`	`Sid`	`any of you guys on iaxtel?`
`10:39.29`	`zeckill`	`Sid: if I use IAX trunking... the 2 (or more) box would share dialplans?`
`10:39.38`	`Sid`	`zeckill: they can, read the docos.`
`10:39.48`	`Sid`	`i only use IAX for a gateway-of-last-resort type scenaro`
`10:39.49`	`Sid`	`+i`
`10:40.07`	`zeckill`	`Sid: I couldn't find that specific in docs`
`10:40.17`	`Sid`	`check the voip wiki`
`10:40.18`	`zeckill`	`Sid: shred some lights on me plz`
`10:40.21`	`Sid`	`it's covered in depth there :)`
`10:40.23`	`Sid`	`i've never done it :P~`
`10:40.45`	`zeckill`	`Sid: it covers the trucking part... not dialplans sharing`
`10:40.53`	`Sid`	`i'm sure i've seen it :)`
`10:41.18`	`zeckill`	`Sid: err..`
`10:41.22`	`Sid`	`hold on`
`10:41.54`	`nextime`	`Sid : we want all MOH if you say "hold on"!!`
`10:42.01`	`Sid`	`hehe`
`10:42.01`	`nextime`	`rotfl`
`10:42.14`	`zeckill`	`Sid: holding`
`10:43.31`	`Sid`	`man`
`10:43.35`	`Sid`	`voip-info.org has gone downhill lately`
`10:43.58`	`manipura`	`Sid, I just listened to that 2 minutes ago`
`10:44.01`	`ard`	`zeckill : dialplan sharing sounds like just putting it in a database and share that database...`
`10:44.06`	`Sid`	`manipura: got the mp3?`
`10:44.19`	`manipura`	`sid yep`
`10:44.23`	`zeckill`	`ard: but db-based dialplans has limitations, correct ?`
`10:44.44`	`ard`	`zeckill : dunno: I am really new to asterisk ;-)`
`10:45.03`	`zeckill`	`all: db-based dialplans lacks some features from the flat conf counterpart... correct?`
`10:45.10`	`zeckill`	`ard: same here`
`10:45.28`	`ard`	`zeckill : I cannot imagine that database dialplans are less than ascii files... After all: it is just ascii :-)`
`10:45.30`	`zeckill`	`Sid: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+-+dual+servers is this what you referring to ?`
`10:45.36`	`Sid`	`zeckill: thanks, thats prolly it`
`10:46.11`	`zeckill`	`Sid: Connecting the dial plans .... looks like it's it`
`10:47.23`	`Sid`	`zeckill: yeah, thats it :)`
`10:47.28`	`zeckill`	`ard: for one thing I read somewhere that for the SIP conf if you use db... it doesn't support some feature`
`10:47.28`	`Sid`	`i need to upgrade my * server`
`10:47.31`	`Sid`	`it's a p2-233 atm`
`10:47.35`	`Sid`	`transcoding between 711 and GSM`
`10:47.43`	`Sid`	`half the lag is caused by the p2`
`10:48.12`	`nextime`	`uhmm`
`10:48.19`	`nextime`	`my home * server is a p75`
`10:48.21`	`nextime`	`:D`
`10:48.48`	`Sid`	`the embarassing thing is`
`10:48.55`	`Sid`	`that i have a c466a sitting here, on my desk`
`10:48.58`	`Sid`	`and i cbf upgrading it`
`10:49.06`	`zeckill`	`what's your smallest * installation ? size-wise`
`10:49.06`	`nextime`	`and on this server it's running both *, 12 openvpn link, a user mode linux with a honepot inside, and so on...`
`10:49.08`	`nextime`	`:D`
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`10:49.28`	`zeckill`	`what's your smallest * installation ? HD size-wise`
`10:49.45`	`Sid`	`the p2-233 has a 540MB fireball in it :)`
`10:49.56`	`Sid`	`and 32MB cf r/w for configs`
`10:50.09`	`zeckill`	`so that's 32MB for the core ?`
`10:50.26`	`Sid`	`nah, /var/run, /etc/asterisk, etc`
`10:50.32`	`Sid`	`done with some weird symlink juju`
`10:50.52`	`zeckill`	`I am working on a whole Asterisk system in 32M`
`10:51.01`	`ard`	`nextime : you are probably not using zaphfc :-)`
`10:51.09`	`nextime`	`zeckill : you can install * on a embedded device using busybox on a small flash storage i suppose...`
`10:51.27`	`zeckill`	`nextime: yea that's the direction I am heading`
`10:51.28`	`nextime`	`ard : true, zaphfc is sleeping :)`
`10:51.36`	`Sid`	`i'm working on hacking knopsterisk to use network card flashrom as persistent storage`
`10:52.04`	`zeckill`	`Sid: have you tried Asterisk compiled against uClibc ?`
`10:52.14`	`Sid`	`zeckill: haven't tried...`
`10:52.26`	`ard`	`nextime : with 2 zaphfc (drivers loaded) my box was going to die... I guess I missed half the outgoing and incoming frames, which made some interesting frequency shifts in my voice :-)`
`10:52.28`	`nextime`	`zeckill : good luck`
`10:53.04`	`pachell`	`ok, maybe i'm overlooking something simple here, but inbound calls to my phone are being rejected with: Got SIP response 400 "Bad Request" back from 192.168.1.100`
`10:53.22`	`kb2qzv`	`good morning to most`
`10:53.29`	`pachell`	`however, i can place calls with absolutely no problems, and inbound calls from the outside zap channel work just fine`
`10:53.31`	`ard`	`zeckill : maybe ok... I don't see any threading actually, so it should work, maybe it works even better :-)`
`10:53.42`	`pachell`	`any ideas? i've been googling around for an answer, mailing lists, absolutely nothing here`
`10:53.57`	`Sid`	`ok, sid out`
`10:53.58`	`Sid`	`cyas`
`10:53.58`	`zeckill`	`nextime: already having some luck :~) now I only needs to compile the zaptel mods`
`10:54.54`	`zeckill`	`ard: really, that's cool... I have successfully compiled it and I see that someone in the mailling list say that it works well with uClibc...`
`10:56.11`	`kb2qzv`	`my question: Can I translate the material from Asgterisk-Wiki site into a foregn language, compile it into a form of a book and sell in my country? Would it violate any copy rights?`
`10:57.21`	`zeckill`	`is Knopsterisk available for download ?`
`10:59.15`	`kb2qzv`	`zeckill: I think it for purchase only`
`10:59.35`	`zeckill`	`kb2qzv, ic`
`11:00.04`	`kb2qzv`	`would you know an answer to my prev question?`
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`11:00.45`	`kb2qzv`	`zeckill: how about asterisk live CD!? Have you tried that?`
`11:00.55`	`zeckill`	`kb2qzv, sorry, no`
`11:00.58`	`zeckill`	`kb2qzv, yes`
`11:01.17`	`kb2qzv`	`on some machines I cannot boot it. it crashes...`
`11:01.26`	`zeckill`	`kb2qzv, what error did you get ?`
`11:01.42`	`zeckill`	`kb2qzv, and where are u at before it crashes?`
`11:01.47`	`kb2qzv`	`a spontaniuos reboot...no error messages..`
`11:02.15`	`zeckill`	`kb2qzv, werid`
`11:02.21`	`zeckill`	`weird`
`11:02.37`	`kb2qzv`	`it happens right after the graphical screen appears and you press the enter key`
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`11:02.58`	`kb2qzv`	`but it could be my old hardware..`
`11:03.19`	`zeckill`	`maybe the kernel is compiled for i586 only ?`
`11:03.34`	`zeckill`	`I haven't paid attention to the kernel`
`11:03.50`	`kb2qzv`	`you might be right. The cpu is AMD 100Mhz`
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`11:04.11`	`zeckill`	`kb2qzv, very likely then`
`11:04.11`	`kb2qzv`	`Oh, you are the author?`
`11:04.21`	`zeckill`	`kb2qzv, nah`
`11:04.44`	`kb2qzv`	`bravo, nice piece of software...`
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`11:04.56`	`kb2qzv`	`i need to go away for now.`
`11:05.00`	`zeckill`	`kb2qzv, I mean "no" :~)`
`11:05.06`	`kb2qzv`	`Oh, OK`
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`11:09.54`	`serdiehard`	`a problem with astcc can any body help`
`11:10.48`	`_dw`	`italian keyboards are crazy!`
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`11:19.12`	`salimfadhley`	`hi eveeybody!`
`11:19.13`	`salimfadhley`	`:-)`
`11:19.38`	`serdiehard`	`hi salim`
`11:19.49`	`serdiehard`	`a problem with astcc can any you help me`
`11:20.04`	`salimfadhley`	`I was thinking of spending some real time writing a web-frond end to asterisk manager... just doing some research into feasability. The idea would be that it would be based on Zope and python so it was cross platform (no PHP for me)`
`11:20.29`	`salimfadhley`	`Does anbody know if this has been done before (by better programmers), or is in some other way a dumb idea?`
`11:21.51`	`ScaredyCat`	`look at Destar .. that's a python front end...`
`11:22.01`	`ScaredyCat`	`joing #destar`
`11:22.04`	`ScaredyCat`	`join`
`11:22.08`	`tessier`	`salimfadhley: Actually, I am working on that also.`
`11:22.10`	`ScaredyCat`	`using /j #destar`
`11:22.14`	`tessier`	`salimfadhley: Or will be.`
`11:22.17`	`salimfadhley`	`tessier... what kind of environment?`
`11:22.21`	`tessier`	`salimfadhley: I am learning zope at the moment.`
`11:22.26`	`salimfadhley`	`Oh really..`
`11:22.36`	`salimfadhley`	`I am moderately experienced at zope`
`11:22.37`	`tessier`	`Yep. It seems perfect for the job.`
`11:22.43`	`salimfadhley`	`But n00b at asterisk.`
`11:22.52`	`tessier`	`I am a total zope newbie but getting fairly experienced with asterisk.`
`11:22.55`	`salimfadhley`	`However I feel that I could try to bring the two communities a bit together.`
`11:22.57`	`salimfadhley`	`Okay... hey!`
`11:23.04`	`salimfadhley`	`This sounds like a lucky break.`
`11:23.11`	`ScaredyCat`	`or you could just ignore my suggestion and create yet another attempt ad a front end`
`11:23.16`	`tessier`	`Indeed. Perhaps we should work together.`
`11:23.24`	`salimfadhley`	`My plan was to put together a proof of concept which was little more than a zope front end to a console...`
`11:23.28`	`salimfadhley`	`Just to prove it can be done.`
`11:23.34`	`salimfadhley`	`tessier... not ignoring you`
`11:23.38`	`salimfadhley`	`This would be different.`
`11:23.58`	`salimfadhley`	`Zope is a very kewl web platform... it makes everything you do nice and MVC style...`
`11:23.58`	`tessier`	`Really I am less interested in a general asterisk front end for newbies to use than to make a product I can use to manage my own asterisk installation and perhaps sell and support.`
`11:24.07`	`tessier`	`And if other people want to use it also, so much the better.`
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`11:24.24`	`salimfadhley`	`I am interested in a general framework for putting asterisk on the web... so one application will be n00b friendly admin.`
`11:24.32`	`tessier`	`salimfadhley: Exactly.`
`11:24.42`	`salimfadhley`	`But all it would take is a different skin and the app would be a phone directory`
`11:24.44`	`tessier`	`salimfadhley: I am selling asterisk systems and one thing people often ask about is how to admin it and if there is a gui.`
`11:24.48`	`salimfadhley`	`or a 'call me back' interface`
`11:24.57`	`salimfadhley`	`tessier: what country are you in?`
`11:25.00`	`tessier`	`Really I think you shouldn't be touching a phone system if you need a GUI (same goes for firewalls) but a lot of people seem to disagree.`
`11:25.05`	`ScaredyCat`	`salimfadhley: which is why I suggested you looked at destar, which is already advanced..`
`11:25.07`	`tessier`	`salimfadhley: I am in San Diego, CA USA`
`11:25.20`	`salimfadhley`	`lets look at destar!`
`11:25.33`	`tessier`	`ard: Indeed, any interface is necessarily going to be more restrictive.`
`11:25.36`	`ScaredyCat`	`it has it's own channel too`
`11:25.48`	`ScaredyCat`	`<ScaredyCat> joing #destar`
`11:25.48`	`ScaredyCat`	`<ScaredyCat> join`
`11:28.05`	`pachell`	`Got SIP response 400 "Bad Request" back from 192.168.1.100`
`11:28.05`	`pachell`	`any ideas?`
`11:28.05`	`pachell`	`cisco 7960 for inbound calls only`
`11:28.10`	`pachell`	`originating from inside the lan, outside calls via zap work perfectly`
`11:28.23`	`ard`	`tessier : but it doesn't mean it is not worth it :-). I hope you and salimfadhley succeed in making asterisk easy to use ... I love it when iax becomes the big trunking standard... (Hmmm, I actually think it is already so, because there is no other trunking standard?)`
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`11:33.24`	`serdiehard`	`ScardeyCat: we missed on billing on that day`
`11:33.28`	`Tommmo`	`hi, does anyone know any devices similar to the apple airport express but with an FXS port ?`
`11:33.30`	`serdiehard`	`can we have a try now`
`11:33.37`	`Tommmo`	`ie. a wireless voip adapter ?`
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`12:07.08`	`BarbaS`	`Hello, does anyone know a VoIP provider which provides similar international plans as Packet8 without the need of any special equipment?`
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`12:08.40`	`markit`	`anyone here with a small office that could give me his extensions.conf to learn something?`
`12:09.07`	`ScaredyCat`	`markit: you don't want to see mine, that's for sure...`
`12:09.28`	`ScaredyCat`	`too much dev. work, stuff all over the place...`
`12:09.41`	`ScaredyCat`	`oh for the time to tidy it up...`
`12:11.09`	`Zeeek`	`markit what kinds of stuff you wanna do? We use * as our pbx. Two lines in, three FXS and a bunch of SIP and IAX phones`
`12:11.41`	`Zeeek`	`ScaredyCat ever seen that commercial where the husband is at the sushi bar, then comes home and kisses his wife?`
`12:11.48`	`pachell`	`by the way, the bad request was narrowed down to bad CID info`
`12:11.59`	`ScaredyCat`	`no Zeeek ...`
`12:12.09`	`markit`	`Zeeek: that could be good, I've a ISDN in, 8 analog with TDM400 and some sip... just to understand some logic... often I find dialplans too "hi level" and with few comments`
`12:12.15`	`Zeeek`	`so the wife says "You bastard!" and slaps him`
`12:12.21`	`ScaredyCat`	`roflmao`
`12:12.27`	`Zeeek`	`it's an ad for how fresh your sushi is`
`12:12.33`	`BarbaS`	`Does anyone know how can I fix the date and time sent with the CID information?`
`12:12.42`	`ScaredyCat`	`fix it?`
`12:12.45`	`Sid`	`yeah`
`12:12.46`	`Sid`	`ntpd`
`12:12.55`	`ScaredyCat`	`sync your * box clock`
`12:13.01`	`Zeeek`	`heh.`
`12:13.03`	`BarbaS`	`well it sends me the wrong date and time`
`12:13.11`	`BarbaS`	`the clock is just fine`
`12:13.12`	`ScaredyCat`	`so the time on your * is wrong`
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`12:13.28`	`ScaredyCat`	`that's where the time comes from`
`12:13.52`	`ScaredyCat`	`is your box set to the correct timezone?`
`12:13.56`	`BarbaS`	`actually when it sends it to a softphone it works fine`
`12:14.10`	`ScaredyCat`	`so it's ur phone then :)`
`12:14.13`	`ScaredyCat`	`what phone?`
`12:14.15`	`BarbaS`	`but when it is went from my ATA 186 it is wrong`
`12:14.25`	`Zeeek`	`who's on first?`
`12:14.32`	`ScaredyCat`	`does the ata186 allow you to sync the time?`
`12:14.36`	`BarbaS`	`I have a CID device`
`12:14.39`	`ScaredyCat`	`on what Zeeek?`
`12:14.44`	`BarbaS`	`and a Siemens dect phone`
`12:14.56`	`Zeeek`	`what Phone?`
`12:15.19`	`Zeeek`	`A new brand on the market, the WhatPhone`
`12:15.30`	`BarbaS`	`wait I tell you in a sec`
`12:15.34`	`Zeeek`	`"What Phone?" - no it's a Grandstream`
`12:16.21`	`BarbaS`	`Siemens Gigaset C100`
`12:16.23`	`manipura`	`anyone set up astcc before?`
`12:17.43`	`miller7`	`manipura: a friendly advise. if you can't find out how to change the makefile then either don't try it at all or pay someone to do it for you`
`12:17.45`	`BarbaS`	`and the date and time I get is 1/1/2004 00:00:00`
`12:17.50`	`*** part/#asterisk DrRighteous2 (SystemLoad@ool-435710b6.dyn.optonline.net)`
`12:18.08`	`ScaredyCat`	`sounds like it uses it's internal clock`
`12:18.10`	`miller7`	`cause later you will experience problems with people stealing your calls`
`12:19.00`	`BarbaS`	`and it is always the same?`
`12:19.12`	`ScaredyCat`	`did you set the clock on your phone?`
`12:19.18`	`manipura`	`miller7 I don't pay people to do anything on my server, either I do it or it doesn't get done`
`12:19.34`	`ScaredyCat`	`maybe it just stays that way until you set it BarbaS`
`12:19.43`	`ScaredyCat`	`hello? hello?`
`12:19.49`	`Zeeek`	`ScaredyCat isn't the firmware the same for ATA and BT?`
`12:19.59`	`wasim`	`bad bandwidth`
`12:20.02`	`Zeeek`	`so wasim, almost October :)`
`12:20.11`	`BarbaS`	`yes the clock on the phone is set`
`12:20.18`	`ScaredyCat`	`no idea Zeeek`
`12:20.57`	`ScaredyCat`	`lol`
`12:21.11`	`miller7`	`manipura: just be careful with astcc because you want to earn money from it and you should know what you're doing, that's all I'm saying. Now, if you tell us what your problem is then someone might help you too`
`12:21.27`	`Zeeek`	`I justbought a Radio Shock callerID box and they talk about Time info from the phone co`
`12:21.30`	`ScaredyCat`	`Zeeek: send markit ur setup you gimp`
`12:21.45`	`Zeeek`	`nah, same problem as you - full of experimental BS`
`12:21.53`	`Zeeek`	`including the nufone party line`
`12:22.18`	`Zeeek`	`eeewwww, don't do that again`
`12:22.26`	`ScaredyCat`	`bzzzzt`
`12:22.36`	`manipura`	`astcc says "No HTTP Directory" when I do 'make install'`
`12:22.44`	`ScaredyCat`	`good job I was experimenting on Zeeek then`
`12:23.06`	`BarbaS`	`ok guys I think I havent entered the ntp settings`
`12:23.07`	`BarbaS`	`thanks`
`12:23.09`	`ScaredyCat`	`lol, astcc ... that makes me laugh`
`12:23.17`	`Sid`	`whats astcc?`
`12:23.28`	`miller7`	`sid: asterick calling card`
`12:23.32`	`miller7`	`AGI app`
`12:23.35`	`ScaredyCat`	`calling card agi script`
`12:23.37`	`Zeeek`	`fish seem to be the rage around here`
`12:23.41`	`Sid`	`miller7: hows that work?`
`12:23.49`	`Zeeek`	`by the way, are there dry fish?`
`12:23.53`	`BarbaS`	`:P`
`12:23.56`	`ard`	`ScaredyCat : uh oh... I like fish slapping, especially trouts...`
`12:24.40`	`ard`	`8-D`
`12:24.41`	`Zeeek`	`take the bones out first, that's the tricky part`
`12:24.43`	`*** join/#asterisk Poemius (~poemius@adsl-70-48-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma)`
`12:24.55`	`ard`	`I know a girl that gives good trout-slappings over IRC... :-)`
`12:25.06`	`Zeeek`	`"a star is boned"`
`12:25.34`	`Poemius`	`hi all :)`
`12:25.36`	`ScaredyCat`	`RL, never been there...`
`12:25.47`	`Poemius`	`what is RL? :)`
`12:25.48`	`ard`	`On what server is that?`
`12:25.53`	`Damin`	`Astricon kicked my ass!`
`12:25.56`	`*** join/#asterisk puzzled (~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl)`
`12:25.58`	`ScaredyCat`	`reallife Poemius`
`12:26.01`	`puzzled`	`morning`
`12:26.11`	`ScaredyCat`	`real life`
`12:26.11`	`Poemius`	`what is real life?`
`12:26.11`	`Poemius`	`:p`
`12:26.11`	`ScaredyCat`	`not IRC`
`12:26.12`	`puzzled`	`big blue room`
`12:26.18`	`Wonka`	`that which happens in the big blue room...`
`12:26.23`	`ScaredyCat`	`ut there... ->`
`12:26.25`	`ScaredyCat`	`out`
`12:26.27`	`Poemius`	`you mean there is something beyond IRC?`
`12:26.28`	`Wonka`	`with the open nuclear fusion lamp`
`12:26.40`	`ScaredyCat`	`Damin: errmm`
`12:26.46`	`ScaredyCat`	`that doesn't work`
`12:26.50`	`ScaredyCat`	`not here...`
`12:26.51`	`wasim`	`Poemius: yes, dialplan`
`12:26.54`	`Poemius`	`I have been on irc since I can remember, I can't imagine life without it :)`
`12:26.58`	`ScaredyCat`	`<Damin> Astricon kicked my ass!`
`12:27.16`	`ScaredyCat`	`means it kicked the shit outta you - prolly putting you in hospital...`
`12:27.19`	`Zeeek`	`ScaredyCat you were there?`
`12:27.22`	`ScaredyCat`	`round here..`
`12:27.25`	`Poemius`	`:)`
`12:27.29`	`ard`	`Poemius : you mean : I can't imagine life beyond that`
`12:27.32`	`ScaredyCat`	`Zeeek: no :/`
`12:27.47`	`gambolputty`	`can someone dial a SIP URL call to me please?`
`12:28.03`	`ScaredyCat`	`didn;t work`
`12:28.15`	`ard`	`And that just to please him?`
`12:28.22`	`Zeeek`	`18005551212`
`12:28.28`	`Poemius`	`keep trying, it might work :)`
`12:28.36`	`gambolputty`	`trying to test SER and * here`
`12:29.03`	`ard`	`:-)`
`12:29.13`	`ScaredyCat`	`gambolputty: you kinda need to give us some idea wtf your sip address is!`
`12:29.14`	`Zeeek`	`don't laugh, soon there will be dictionary attacks on SIP URLs`
`12:29.36`	`puzzled`	`what is with with these people that spam the list or crosspost a luser question to -dev?!`
`12:29.43`	`ard`	`Yeah, and when you pick up you get voice spam...`
`12:29.47`	`Zeeek`	`in fact, someone at FWD has been getting spammed by voicemail!`
`12:29.49`	`ScaredyCat`	`but we'll all be using iax by then Zeeek :)`
`12:30.07`	`Zeeek`	`only if wasim come through like he said`
`12:30.50`	`Zeeek`	`puzzled, a lot of times it's people who don't understand English that well and are confused`
`12:30.52`	`wasim`	`massively hungover too ... but thats another story`
`12:31.10`	`Zeeek`	`A standard response about the list, not flames would be nice`
`12:31.47`	`Zeeek`	`so, how did the SIP call go?`
`12:31.49`	`puzzled`	`guess that would work`
`12:31.55`	`manipura`	`Anyone know how I can find out where my 'HTTPDIR' is?`
`12:32.11`	`Zeeek`	`I mean people are too quick to flame first-time offenders`
`12:32.16`	`puzzled`	`wasim: alca zelzer (spelling?) does wonders for me`
`12:32.27`	`Zeeek`	`it isn't good for asterisk in general or developpers either`
`12:32.30`	`puzzled`	`manipura: echo HTTPDIR`
`12:32.41`	`Zeeek`	`$`
`12:33.08`	`manipura`	`Nothing`
`12:33.18`	`puzzled`	`Zeeek: unless it's that idiot that started to advertise on the list a competing solution`
`12:33.18`	`Zeeek`	`aaaaaa@aaaaam.com`
`12:33.34`	`Zeeek`	`puzzled no, death penality to those types`
`12:33.50`	`puzzled`	`yup, at least a digital one`
`12:33.59`	`Zeeek`	`I see the other shit too often though, insulting and scaring away prospects`
`12:34.01`	`manipura`	`Does this mean I installed apache wrong?`
`12:34.12`	`puzzled`	`I would like it if the ML app automagically filtererd all html crap`
`12:34.38`	`*** join/#asterisk tsetane (~tsetane@pppoecl70107.minlos.no)`
`12:34.40`	`puzzled`	`or ban everybody that dares to send html mail to the ML :)`
`12:34.40`	`Zeeek`	`mainpura, sounds like a make time config?`
`12:34.48`	`serdiehard`	`has any bosy worked wit b2bua of vocal`
`12:34.51`	`Zeeek`	`puzzled, with you 100% on that too`
`12:35.14`	`Zeeek`	`never understood why HTML mail isn't refused automatically on lists`
`12:35.24`	`puzzled`	`even better: an automatic bounce saying that they need to send in paintext`
`12:35.30`	`puzzled`	`:)`
`12:35.36`	`Zeeek`	`what a pain to read it on webmail`
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`12:36.18`	`manipura`	`Zeeek, I'm trying to install astcc, and it wants you to set HTTPDIR=, but I have no idea what to put there, I keep getting errors`
`12:36.25`	`Zeeek`	`puzzled, I don't really think those posts like "if you can't find this, youre too stupid to use asterisk" - it's not true and bad for the image`
`12:36.47`	`puzzled`	`manipura: read the docs. iirc it refers to the directory where your html files live`
`12:36.49`	`Zeeek`	`manipura what is your document root directory in Apache?`
`12:36.56`	`miller7`	`manipura: just set the directory of your httpd`
`12:37.04`	`Zeeek`	`yes and you find this in conf/httpd.conf`
`12:37.04`	`miller7`	`manipura: like /var/www/htdocs or so`
`12:37.18`	`Zeeek`	`miller7 that's sounds good`
`12:37.23`	`manipura`	`its /var/www/htdocs`
`12:37.31`	`puzzled`	`Zeeek: I agree but there are people who don't know linux or how to rm a file and start messing with *`
`12:37.33`	`miller7`	`then set this in the makefile and try again`
`12:37.49`	`Zeeek`	`puzzled, they will learn like I did!`
`12:38.31`	`Zeeek`	`We should be driving people away from *. Obviously, the ones that come here and ask repeat questions all day and don't read the links we all send out...`
`12:38.35`	`puzzled`	`Zeeek: i think it helps if you first learn linux then learn *. not both at the same time`
`12:38.45`	`Zeeek`	`SHOULD NOT, not should`
`12:38.45`	`manipura`	`miller7, tried it before, tried again to make sure, nope`
`12:38.52`	`miller7`	`Zeeek: the problem is not installing * for PBX or to play with but trying to install a calling card application and having such issues can be a bit oh well... commercial problem for the guy and all we do is protect him`
`12:39.20`	`miller7`	`manipura: hold on, let me look at the source`
`12:39.24`	`Zeeek`	`miller7, send him to the docs, politely`
`12:39.34`	`miller7`	`Zeeek: the source is the docs`
`12:39.41`	`Zeeek`	`(not manipura, the theoretical him)`
`12:40.18`	`miller7`	`Zeeek: in general yeah you're right. At least that's what I do and done earlier on another guy`
`12:40.32`	`miller7`	`(asking how to reload asterisk). Gave the command and the wiki URL`
`12:40.39`	`Zeeek`	`back to the mailing lists: "This is the dev list, your question belongs on biz" or some such is plenty. Not YOU F$CKING ANUS, GO AWAY`
`12:41.22`	`miller7`	`manipura: what's the first line in the Makefile?`
`12:41.26`	`miller7`	`what do you have?`
`12:41.56`	`*** part/#asterisk kb2qzv (~benek@byl31.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)`
`12:42.22`	`manipura`	`Last one I tried is:`
`12:42.23`	`manipura`	`HTTPDIR=/var/www/htdocs`
`12:42.24`	`Zeeek`	`I have a thinck skin, so when I first began posting, I was patient with asshole replies. This is because I know that in dozens of other areas I know more than the flamer. I know I can get to the point I need to be at, so I'm patient. There are millions of potential asterisk adopters out there. Let's not drive them away`
`12:42.54`	`miller7`	`manipura: is /var/www/htdocs a valid directory that is working etc?`
`12:43.06`	`Zeeek`	`speaking of reloading asterisk, I never understood why there is a SIP RELOAD but no IAX2 RELOAD?`
`12:43.14`	`puzzled`	`Zeeek: patience helps too :)`
`12:44.28`	`puzzled`	`is there an IAX_CODEC var I can set in a Dial statement?`
`12:44.42`	`Zeeek`	`and also speaking of reload as in restart, I have a problem with dynamic DSL ip address. The externip needs to be changed and I can only see one solution`
`12:44.46`	`manipura`	`miller7, that is the directory where all my webserver files are`
`12:45.00`	`Zeeek`	`I use an include for the externip and restart gracefully`
`12:45.15`	`Zeeek`	`the included file is generated by the DDNS client`
`12:45.30`	`Zeeek`	`anyone comment on DDNS + asterisk?`
`12:46.14`	`miller7`	`manipura: what is the exact error you get again?`
`12:46.22`	`miller7`	`(copy/paste please)`
`12:46.29`	`manipura`	`No http directory`
`12:46.30`	`manipura`	`make: *** [install] Error 1`
`12:46.38`	`miller7`	`ok`
`12:46.48`	`miller7`	`is there an html directory in there?`
`12:46.52`	`miller7`	`@[ -d $(DESTDIR)$(HTTPDIR)/html ] \|\| ( echo "No http directory" && exit 1 )`
`12:46.55`	`miller7`	`see this line`
`12:47.02`	`miller7`	`it asks for an html dir`
`12:47.07`	`*** join/#asterisk visik7 (~ciao@host145-41.pool80182.interbusiness.it)`
`12:47.08`	`miller7`	`if you don't have, then modify this line`
`12:47.23`	`miller7`	`line 12 I think`
`12:48.39`	`visik7`	`is the woody deb of asterisk 1.0.0 out ?`
`12:49.43`	`manipura`	`Okay, thanks miller7 I think I can get it from here`
`12:50.14`	`miller7`	`manipura: I really think that if you plan on using this commercially you should ask for consulting`
`12:50.29`	`miller7`	`in general I mean`
`12:50.50`	`manipura`	`This is more for testing. I'm not planning on selling Calling Cards`
`12:50.59`	`Zeeek`	`by commercially you resold services?`
`12:51.13`	`zeckill`	`anyone using Iaxy? or could anyone please tell me how well does the Iaxy device perform as a FXS ?`
`12:51.24`	`Zeeek`	`miller7: by commercially, you mean resold services?`
`12:51.40`	`Zeeek`	`zeckill it works fine`
`12:51.55`	`miller7`	`Zeeek: I mean if he will try to get money from selling cards using astcc I suggest he looks into it a lot more cause it's tricky`
`12:52.04`	`miller7`	`but again, that's a friendly suggestion`
`12:52.05`	`Zeeek`	`agreed.`
`12:53.44`	`Zeeek`	`I can just see some of these mailing list flame guys going to other lists. they'd post, "so if she says yes, should I ask her to lie down with no clothes on or what?"`
`12:53.48`	`manipura`	`miller7, your just trying to get me to give you money so you can set it up for me, aren't you?`
`12:54.01`	`miller7`	`manipura: I wouldn't care less about it dude`
`12:54.18`	`Zeeek`	`couldn't is the correct usage`
`12:54.29`	`miller7`	`Zeeek: :D`
`12:54.36`	`Zeeek`	`man grammar`