irclog2html for #asterisk on 20041120

`00:00.00`	`file[laptop]`	`666`
`00:01.30`	`cursor`	`jif - naaa`
`00:01.30`	`cursor`	`try png`
`00:01.30`	`cursor`	`668 - the neighbour of the beast`
`00:01.55`	`*** join/#asterisk DonX (~Don@dialup-4.226.33.72.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net)`
`00:02.22`	`cursor`	`dialup?`
`00:02.27`	`cursor`	`what's that then?`
`00:02.32`	`welby`	`in dallas ?`
`00:02.46`	`nestAr`	`lol`
`00:02.54`	`nestAr`	`i admin dialup pools`
`00:02.59`	`nestAr`	`fun stuff :ugh:`
`00:03.17`	`cursor`	`throw the dialup users into the pool`
`00:03.22`	`cursor`	`and forget the lifeguard`
`00:03.49`	`nestAr`	`they make us a lot of money though... more profit in dialup users than DSL customers`
`00:04.08`	`cursor`	`Well, they have to stay online longer :-)`
`00:04.22`	`*** part/#asterisk clh (~tink@216.253.86.210)`
`00:04.24`	`nestAr`	`lol`
`00:04.39`	`cursor`	`and generate more calls to your premium rate tech support number`
`00:05.04`	`nestAr`	`well, our cost for the DSL line from the phone company to the customer is $33 per customer.. DSL sells for ~$40`
`00:05.17`	`nestAr`	`so that's 7 bucks for bandwidth, email, tech support, etc..`
`00:05.30`	`cursor`	`Just give them a 100:1 contention ratio :-)`
`00:05.54`	`nestAr`	`we've got a DS3 into the telco's ATM cloud for dsl..`
`00:06.17`	`cursor`	`How big is a DS3?`
`00:06.18`	`nestAr`	`even with a couple thousand customers on there, we still only see peaks of about 15mbit`
`00:06.23`	`nestAr`	`45 mbit`
`00:06.26`	`cursor`	`ok`
`00:06.32`	`nestAr`	`T3/DS3`
`00:06.34`	`cursor`	`we just call that a 45Mbps line here :-)`
`00:06.49`	`eKo1`	`so what do you do with the rest of the bandwidth?`
`00:06.55`	`cursor`	`download porn`
`00:06.57`	`nestAr`	`it just sits idle`
`00:07.01`	`eKo1`	`ah! of course`
`00:07.04`	`nestAr`	`that's not connectivity to the internet`
`00:07.11`	`nestAr`	`just connectivity from us the dsl customers`
`00:07.29`	`cursor`	`do you have one of your own DSL lines at home?`
`00:07.49`	`eKo1`	`is this sdsl?`
`00:08.08`	`cursor`	`1000/250`
`00:09.12`	`welby`	`radsl, 512/256 here, bonded adsl 8096/1024 at work`
`00:09.20`	`WilliamK`	`cursor, which telco?`
`00:09.25`	`cursor`	`Eclipse`
`00:09.33`	`cursor`	`oh`
`00:09.36`	`cursor`	`The telco is BT`
`00:09.38`	`eKo1`	`that reminds me, i have to configure my new netopia hdsl router to do some funky stuff`
`00:09.43`	`cursor`	`the DSL provider is Eclipse`
`00:09.50`	`WilliamK`	`ah`
`00:10.27`	`cursor`	`I was on 64/128k ISDN not long ago`
`00:10.29`	`eKo1`	`so many gadgets...not enough time`
`00:10.35`	`WilliamK`	`customer called me today and finally said they wanted to go live on the pbx`
`00:10.43`	`cursor`	`ISDN is very expensive over here`
`00:10.52`	`WilliamK`	`glad I tested it more last night`
`00:10.53`	`eKo1`	`define expensive`
`00:11.02`	`cursor`	`�250 per quarter`
`00:11.17`	`cursor`	`including �60 call credit which I never used`
`00:11.23`	`WilliamK`	`ISDN runs about 74-90/mo here`
`00:11.25`	`eKo1`	`per quarter? every four months?`
`00:11.30`	`Qwell`	`3 months`
`00:11.32`	`cursor`	`three`
`00:11.36`	`eKo1`	`oh yeah`
`00:11.44`	`cursor`	`We only get three months in our quarters`
`00:11.52`	`cursor`	`Which is a shame really`
`00:12.12`	`*** join/#asterisk spitalfie (~spitalfie@d235-171-236.home1.cgocable.net)`
`00:12.16`	`cursor`	`So I dumped ISDN and switched to an analogue line with DSL`
`00:12.36`	`cursor`	`and save a fortune`
`00:12.45`	`spitalfie`	`hi everyone`
`00:12.59`	`cursor`	`Of course, I had to use ISDN until DSL was available in my area`
`00:13.04`	`cursor`	`hello`
`00:13.41`	`jas_williams`	`I still have ISDN just use it for asterisk now I have adsl as well`
`00:13.57`	`eKo1`	`yes, have both`
`00:14.11`	`eKo1`	`more porno`
`00:14.16`	`cursor`	`At home, an Analogue line is sufficient`
`00:14.26`	`cursor`	`At work, all VoIP is ideal`
`00:14.34`	`spitalfie`	`anyone here really familiar with everyone's friend the GS BT100`
`00:14.35`	`spitalfie`	`?`
`00:14.52`	`modulus_`	`i have one in front of myself`
`00:14.53`	`file[laptop]`	`ooh barietone`
`00:14.55`	`BoRiS`	`what about it?`
`00:14.55`	`file[laptop]`	`er barbietone`
`00:15.07`	`cursor`	`brittle-tone`
`00:15.10`	`eKo1`	`yes, i flushed it down the toilet`
`00:15.20`	`BoRiS`	`Its not that bad....yeeeesh`
`00:15.25`	`cursor`	`backedup toilet`
`00:15.26`	`BoRiS`	`Its just a starter phone`
`00:15.45`	`spitalfie`	`yeah.. that's pretty much what i'm doing, so hopefully it will work`
`00:16.00`	`cursor`	`It'll work`
`00:16.11`	`cursor`	`Just don't press the keys very often`
`00:16.17`	`cursor`	`or they'll break`
`00:16.20`	`jas_williams`	`or two hard :)`
`00:16.26`	`cursor`	`:-)`
`00:16.40`	`eKo1`	`or at all`
`00:16.41`	`spitalfie`	`the problem is that i can call it from xlite, but whenever i try to dial or access anything from the phone itself, i just get 404/busy signal`
`00:16.53`	`*** part/#asterisk DonX (~Don@dialup-4.226.33.72.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net)`
`00:17.06`	`jas_williams`	`spitalfie: sounds like a dialplan issue.`
`00:17.14`	`cursor`	`connect to Asterisk with -vvvvr`
`00:17.25`	`cursor`	`and watch the verbose messages for clies`
`00:17.27`	`cursor`	`clues too`
`00:17.35`	`ionix`	`only asterisk -r`
`00:17.51`	`ionix`	`the verbose level is set on startup.`
`00:17.59`	`ionix`	`as in asterisk -vvvvc`
`00:18.17`	`ionix`	`hehe Maveric`
`00:18.50`	`robl^`	`I use asterisk -rx rm -fr /*`
`00:18.58`	`spitalfie`	`heh, it says it can't find the extension context (i'm fairly new to this.. read through a lotta docs and forum stuff tho)`
`00:19.03`	`jas_williams`	`Verbosity can be changed :) three v 's are the most that actually have an effect on the command line`
`00:19.24`	`spitalfie`	`i'm sure that would work great robl^`
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`00:19.33`	`cursor`	`In sip.conf, you need a block for your phone`
`00:19.40`	`jas_williams`	`spitalfie: what context is listed for the phone in sip.conf`
`00:19.44`	`robl^`	`spitalfie: I didn't say it worked well.. ;)`
`00:19.46`	`cursor`	`you must have that or you'd get different problems`
`00:19.52`	`cursor`	`In that block you need context=foo`
`00:19.59`	`cursor`	`in extensions.conf, you need [foo]`
`00:20.13`	`cursor`	`foo will be your starting point for the dial`
`00:20.18`	`cursor`	`include other contexts in there`
`00:20.26`	`cursor`	`like context=internal and [internal]`
`00:20.42`	`spitalfie`	`ok`
`00:20.46`	`spitalfie`	`that makes sense`
`00:20.48`	`cursor`	`so all internal extensions use the [internal] context`
`00:20.49`	`cursor`	`etc.`
`00:20.56`	`jas_williams`	`floood kevinnnnnnn :)`
`00:21.03`	`cursor`	`fire`
`00:21.04`	`cursor`	`flood`
`00:21.09`	`cursor`	`pestilance`
`00:21.10`	`cursor`	`famine`
`00:21.15`	`cursor`	`plague`
`00:21.23`	`cursor`	`etc.`
`00:21.25`	`cursor`	`:-)`
`00:21.58`	`skrewtape`	`bush`
`00:22.03`	`cursor`	`blair`
`00:22.09`	`skrewtape`	`=D`
`00:22.13`	`cursor`	`bleigh`
`00:22.16`	`jas_williams`	`Thatcher :P`
`00:22.26`	`cursor`	`Thatcher was ok :-)`
`00:22.29`	`skrewtape`	`caligula`
`00:22.29`	`cursor`	`I voted for her`
`00:22.32`	`cursor`	`several times :-)`
`00:22.37`	`jas_williams`	`Me two`
`00:22.43`	`jas_williams`	`or to`
`00:22.55`	`cursor`	`or too`
`00:22.59`	`Mavvie`	`I think she was hot.`
`00:23.04`	`Mavvie`	`just like a fridge is hot.`
`00:23.06`	`jas_williams`	`or as well`
`00:23.07`	`cursor`	`Always wore blue`
`00:23.14`	`cursor`	`reflecting the country's mood`
`00:23.41`	`jas_williams`	`Glad there's lots of people needing help tonight`
`00:23.59`	`cursor`	`yes - I've never seen so many on-topic Asterisk questions`
`00:24.07`	`jas_williams`	`SHould say this morning`
`00:24.12`	`cursor`	`ah`
`00:24.16`	`cursor`	`I didn't spot that`
`00:24.21`	`cursor`	`12:24am`
`00:24.21`	`Mavvie`	`I can ask one if you like. Not sure if you know the answer though.`
`00:24.33`	`cursor`	`you can try`
`00:24.41`	`jas_williams`	`we might not answer`
`00:24.55`	`cursor`	`We'll put the reply after the question`
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`00:25.02`	`spitalfie`	`jas_williams: the context was 'from-sip'`
`00:25.04`	`cursor`	`rather than on top`
`00:25.13`	`cursor`	`:-)`
`00:25.28`	`Mavvie`	`When you bridge two channels via an TE410P card, both ALAW, and stop asterisk, will the call be disconnected or is it after the setup all done without interference of Asterisk?`
`00:25.51`	`cursor`	`I'd expect it to be disconnected`
`00:26.12`	`WilliamK`	`it'll disconnect`
`00:26.41`	`jas_williams`	`spitalfie: you need to add the following line to your [from-sip] context include=>local where local is the context for extensions you need to call this is all in extensions.conf`
`00:26.44`	`cursor`	`You see, Asterisk questions are welcome after all :-)`
`00:27.32`	`cursor`	`This IRC session was brought to you by the letter 'A' and the number '2'.`
`00:27.40`	`Mavvie`	`so my next question is: how expensive (CPU wise) is it then to do bridged calls where no codec translation is needed.`
`00:27.40`	`jas_williams`	`or you can do a stop that will only occur when ther are no calls on the system`
`00:27.59`	`spitalfie`	`ok`
`00:28.03`	`spitalfie`	`let me give that a shot`
`00:28.09`	`cursor`	`ok`
`00:28.22`	`file[laptop]`	`there's nowhere else I'd rather be`
`00:28.34`	`cursor`	`No dancing`
`00:28.43`	`file[laptop]`	`:(`
`00:28.45`	`file[laptop]`	`;(`
`00:29.05`	`jas_williams`	`spitalfie: you could always post your extensions.conf to pastebin.ca and we can give you an exact answer`
`00:29.21`	`file[laptop]`	`but I want, like, to dance, like, here`
`00:29.42`	`jas_williams`	`where are all the girls dancing in their stilettos round there handbags ?`
`00:30.19`	`cursor`	`aaargh! I saw some of that last weekend`
`00:30.36`	`cursor`	`I was going to accidentially kick the handbag into touch`
`00:30.43`	`jas_williams`	`Go to blackpool happens every night :)`
`00:30.52`	`cursor`	`yes`
`00:30.54`	`cursor`	`been there`
`00:31.08`	`cursor`	`bay area of England :-)`
`00:31.21`	`jas_williams`	`:)`
`00:31.23`	`eKo1`	`remind me to go there`
`00:31.36`	`paulc`	`www.jersey.com - way nicer than blackpool`
`00:31.50`	`cursor`	`moo`
`00:31.52`	`file[laptop]`	`is paulc working?`
`00:32.03`	`cursor`	`work?`
`00:32.16`	`cursor`	`Nope - not in there`
`00:32.19`	`file[laptop]`	`it's an evil vile word`
`00:32.19`	`paulc`	`I AM I AM :)`
`00:32.32`	`paulc`	`cockles and muscles, alive, alive-o?`
`00:32.48`	`file[laptop]`	`paulc: 666?`
`00:32.50`	`WilliamK`	`heya paul`
`00:33.45`	`jas_williams`	`Yum tastes great with some jellied eels`
`00:33.57`	`cursor`	`http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=1083&id=518672004`
`00:34.06`	`paulc`	`Hey :)`
`00:34.07`	`cursor`	`Just in case people had no idea what I was talking about`
`00:34.13`	`cursor`	`Which I understand can happen sometimes`
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`00:34.33`	`paulc`	`file[laptop]: can't really 666 right now cos I've got my music cranked and I need to concentrate on coding for a bit..`
`00:34.42`	`file[laptop]`	`paulc: concentration? ha`
`00:34.47`	`spitalfie`	`jas_williams.. okay, so my sip.conf is at http://pastebin.ca/2196`
`00:35.04`	`spitalfie`	`it seems to work now that i set its context to local..`
`00:35.21`	`spitalfie`	`however, now i'm getting new errors i expect are related to the codecs?`
`00:35.42`	`cursor`	`ok`
`00:35.43`	`blogreader`	`hello all! has anyone got asterisk to work with vonage? (soft or ata?)`
`00:35.45`	`spitalfie`	`Nov 19 19:26:20 WARNING[1044]: chan_sip.c:1820 sip_write: Asked to transmit frame type 4, while nativ`
`00:35.45`	`spitalfie`	`e formats is 1 (read/write = 4/2)`
`00:36.12`	`blogreader`	`been googling abit and haven't found anything yet.`
`00:36.16`	`cursor`	`Vonage don't like you to bring your own equipment, like Asterisk`
`00:37.50`	`blogreader`	`hi cursor, does asterisk work with other voip providers then? such as voicepulse?`
`00:38.15`	`cursor`	`yes`
`00:38.21`	`cursor`	`VPC, NuFone etc.`
`00:38.37`	`cursor`	`Apparently BroadVoice works, which is Vonage-like`
`00:38.48`	`blogreader`	`oh great! thank you!`
`00:38.57`	`welby`	`broadvoice works fine`
`00:38.59`	`blogreader`	`are the software phone sip?`
`00:39.13`	`jas_williams`	`spitalfie: sounds like a codec issue what codec finaly gets negotiated between xlite and the GS`
`00:39.21`	`cursor`	`Some softphones are SIP, some are IAX`
`00:39.27`	`cursor`	`Asterisk can do both`
`00:39.56`	`spitalfie`	`jas_williams: thats what i thought, but i can call the GS from the xlite without any problems and talk from one to the other`
`00:40.21`	`spitalfie`	`i can't even get any * prompts by dialing the demo extensions`
`00:40.22`	`*** join/#asterisk Kokey (~Kokey@201.129.164.192)`
`00:40.27`	`spitalfie`	`from the GS, that is`
`00:40.34`	`spitalfie`	`they work fine from teh xlite`
`00:40.51`	`jas_williams`	`spitalfie: What is the codec order in the GS setup ?`
`00:41.40`	`jas_williams`	`spitalfie: Disable all appart from g711a & g711u as a start`
`00:41.53`	`cursor`	`(spitalfie) one end is ALAW and the other is GSM`
`00:42.00`	`cursor`	`get Asterisk to allow both`
`00:42.17`	`cursor`	`Your GS is probably GSM`
`00:42.25`	`cursor`	`switch it to ALAW`
`00:42.27`	`spitalfie`	`PCMU, PCMA, ...iLBC`
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`00:42.42`	`cursor`	`I just use ULAW for all local phones`
`00:43.01`	`cursor`	`There's no point compressing on a local LAN`
`00:44.36`	`modulus_`	`ulaw isn't compressed?`
`00:45.04`	`cursor`	`that's right`
`00:45.11`	`cursor`	`sort of`
`00:45.17`	`modulus_`	`yeah you're wrong`
`00:45.20`	`jas_williams`	`modulus_: Correct ULaw is an 80k data stream form a 64k data source`
`00:45.22`	`modulus_`	`ulaw is compressed as well as alaw`
`00:45.33`	`cursor`	`true`
`00:45.39`	`cursor`	`but not as well as GSM or iLBC`
`00:46.03`	`jas_williams`	`Not compressed modified :)`
`00:46.11`	`cursor`	`:-)`
`00:46.48`	`cursor`	`ULAW and ALAW are both G.711`
`00:47.41`	`asuffield`	`'compressed' is a relative term in audio coding anyway`
`00:48.07`	`modulus_`	`asuffield care to go into more detail?`
`00:48.21`	`asuffield`	`I think that covered it pretty well`
`00:49.00`	`spitalfie`	`jas_: i took out some gsm codecs from the list, and it works now :)`
`00:49.31`	`modulus_`	`asuffield show me formulas`
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`00:49.57`	`asuffield`	`eh?`
`00:50.17`	`modulus_`	`ok here's the equation for a-law:`
`00:50.18`	`modulus_`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`00:50.19`	`modulus_`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`00:50.22`	`modulus_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:50.25`	`modulus_`	`can you show me the equation for u-law?`
`00:50.37`	`asuffield`	`go look it up`
`00:50.39`	`cursor`	`MARIO SPOLJAR is no longer PLIVA�s employee.`
`00:50.45`	`*** join/#asterisk denon (denon@vast.decay.org)`
`00:50.45`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o denon] by ChanServ`
`00:50.46`	`cursor`	`Just in case anyone didn't know`
`00:51.03`	`Qwell`	`Who did what?`
`00:51.07`	`Mavvie`	`cursor: aha. can I forward the postmaster mail to you?`
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`00:53.28`	`cursor`	`Well, I think I'll go and watch a film or something`
`00:53.34`	`cursor`	`See you lot later`
`00:53.47`	`*** part/#asterisk cursor (~kevin@andromeda.office.cursor.biz)`
`00:56.06`	`Ranshackle`	`Hi`
`00:56.27`	`Ranshackle`	`Does anyone have any information regarding poor sound quality between SIP and IAX2 clients? We're having issues where the sound quality on a connection between a SIP client and IAX2 client is worse than the quality between two SIP clients or two IAX2 clients where the quality is perfect.`
`01:00.08`	`bkw_`	`who was asking for zaptel,libpri and asterisk ebuilds?`
`01:00.10`	`bkw_`	`www.bkw.org/portage.tar.gz`
`01:00.26`	`Elshar`	`Hmm`
`01:01.06`	`*** join/#asterisk cjk (~cjk@80.92.75.174)`
`01:01.15`	`*** join/#asterisk DrFrancky (~chaos@83.148.74.76)`
`01:01.18`	`Elshar`	`This is really odd. For some reason only one of my three x100p cards is showing up with ztcfg, yet in zttool they all show up but #1 is shown as unconfigured. Anyone seen this before?`
`01:01.49`	`Elshar`	`Although before this last reboot everything was fine?`
`01:03.53`	`modulus_`	`bkw, what's the "K" stand for?`
`01:04.42`	`file[laptop]`	`it's his middle name`
`01:04.49`	`file[laptop]`	`well, the initial`
`01:05.06`	`bkw_`	`Keith`
`01:05.22`	`cjk`	`is there a problem when having a dialplan of 150.000 lines and reloading it every 3 mins?`
`01:05.30`	`bkw_`	`cjk YES`
`01:05.38`	`twisted`	`er`
`01:05.40`	`twisted`	`back`
`01:05.45`	`Moc`	`cjk, I dont think so`
`01:05.50`	`bkw_`	`yes their is`
`01:05.51`	`czero`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:05.53`	`Moc`	`hi wb ;) twisted`
`01:05.56`	`twisted`	`bkw_, that call center goes live monday :)`
`01:06.03`	`bkw_`	`twisted kewl`
`01:06.07`	`twisted`	`yep`
`01:06.09`	`mikegrb`	`cjk: use they sql storage thingie`
`01:06.12`	`JerJer`	`mooo`
`01:06.16`	`mikegrb`	`oom`
`01:06.25`	`Moc`	`cjk, maybe the using realtime`
`01:06.45`	`Moc`	`that what mark proposed me for the 550 user * setup`
`01:06.59`	`bkw_`	`res_sqlite baby`
`01:07.06`	`bkw_`	`it has a switch built in`
`01:07.09`	`bkw_`	`that ROCKS`
`01:07.12`	`bkw_`	`no reload needed`
`01:07.15`	`cjk`	`ok`
`01:07.16`	`bkw_`	`even has a reltime engine`
`01:07.18`	`cjk`	`i will try`
`01:07.40`	`Moc`	`from what I under of realtime, you wont need to reload, config are always realtime from a database`
`01:07.51`	`Moc`	`I under = I understand`
`01:07.57`	`Mavvie`	`reprogramming asterisk every three minutes is easier than reprogramming an alcatel pabx every three minutes.`
`01:08.25`	`cjk`	`at the moment i generate the configs from my database, because i have everything in the database. im gonne optimize a few things now using agi scripts, but for the rest i do not know`
`01:08.26`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`01:08.27`	`bkw_`	`so true`
`01:08.41`	`file[laptop]`	`bkw_: ASTRICON!!!`
`01:08.48`	`bkw_`	`ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTRICON`
`01:08.49`	`twisted`	`yay!`
`01:08.53`	`twisted`	`astricon europe!!!!!!!`
`01:09.12`	`file[laptop]`	`twisted: you'll be alone.`
`01:09.15`	`twisted`	`file[laptop], no i won't`
`01:09.16`	`file[laptop]`	`ALONE`
`01:09.23`	`twisted`	`i'll be surrounded by european hotties`
`01:09.36`	`twisted`	`that works too`
`01:09.41`	`twisted`	`i can deal with austrailian hotties`
`01:09.46`	`czero`	`:)`
`01:09.54`	`czero`	`Mmmmmmmmmm euro hottie`
`01:09.56`	`czero`	`s`
`01:10.00`	`twisted`	`besides, i still haven't decided if i'm more fond of the british accent or the aussie one on a girl`
`01:10.15`	`czero`	`I prefer when they don;t talk myslef :)`
`01:10.24`	`Moc`	`maybe I'll go this time`
`01:10.28`	`bkw_`	`someone fix this zaptel ebuild`
`01:10.36`	`twisted`	`bkw_, what's wrong with it?`
`01:10.48`	`twisted`	`czero, i like it when they talk`
`01:10.57`	`Moc`	`I better put $ on the side... Euro is expensive hehe`
`01:11.06`	`twisted`	`just not so much while we're doing OTHER things, tho`
`01:11.12`	`file[laptop]`	`bkw_: ASTRICON, WILL, ROCK!`
`01:11.13`	`czero`	`twisted :)`
`01:11.22`	`Moc`	`but I guess until then CND $ will value more than US $ in euro ;)`
`01:11.26`	`czero`	`any good sources on where in Eurp it will be`
`01:11.28`	`twisted`	`bkw, Hi`
`01:11.28`	`Elshar`	`Anyone have any ideas for that unconfigured thing? ;)`
`01:11.32`	`twisted`	`bkw_, how are you?`
`01:12.00`	`bkw_`	`gewd`
`01:12.04`	`twisted`	`good`
`01:12.14`	`bkw_`	`with some guidance from file`
`01:12.18`	`twisted`	`bkw_, decide to leave the plastic wrapping on it?`
`01:12.18`	`bkw_`	`I made it my bitch`
`01:13.14`	`twisted`	`your bieotch?`
`01:13.47`	`bkw_`	`:P`
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`01:14.34`	`Ranshackle`	`Does anyone have any information regarding poor sound quality between SIP and IAX2 clients? We're having issues where the sound quality on a connection between an internal SIP client and an internal IAX2 client is worse than the quality between two internal SIP clients or two internal IAX2 clients where the quality is perfect.`
`01:14.57`	`zyke`	`anyone havin a problem with dtmf when using callme files?`
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`01:16.29`	`Elshar`	`Alright, time to start grepping irc logs I guess. ;)`
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`01:17.58`	`zane1`	`hey does anyone have any idea why my cdrs table wont get updated with astcc?`
`01:18.27`	`*** part/#asterisk DrFrancky (~chaos@83.148.74.76)`
`01:18.45`	`zyke`	`anyone havin a problem with dtmf when using callme files?`
`01:18.59`	`zyke`	`dtmf doesn't work with call files?`
`01:19.04`	`zyke`	`any one knows?`
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`01:19.32`	`scubasteve`	`Good evening, folks!`
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`01:20.29`	`scubasteve`	`Stupid question time. I know ${EXTEN:1} takes off the first digit.. like when someone dials 9..`
`01:20.51`	`scubasteve`	`I need to add some numbers. For example, I always have to dial 1 919 to place a call, even local`
`01:21.13`	`scubasteve`	`So, if I see NXXXXXX I need it to be 1919 {$EXTEN}`
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`01:22.24`	`jdg`	`scubasteve: 1919${EXTEN}`
`01:22.40`	`gh0st`	`1919{$EXTEN}`
`01:22.48`	`gh0st`	`right`
`01:22.49`	`scubasteve`	`jdg... I seem to recall trying that and getting an error message.. let's give it another whirl..`
`01:23.09`	`scubasteve`	`nuts, I had it in the wrong spot..`
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`01:24.57`	`w0w0`	`hi. anyone knows where i can find the asterisk gtk console?`
`01:25.14`	`Ranshackle`	`Another question, is anyone familiar with a SIP library which could be used to build a SIP client on top of? I'm not really finding any good software SIP clients out there.`
`01:25.20`	`funraps-as`	`help`
`01:25.22`	`funraps-as`	`hello`
`01:25.31`	`funraps-as`	`hi`
`01:25.41`	`JerJer`	`Ranshackle: try OPAL`
`01:26.05`	`funraps-as`	`i just update from CVS and now I can't make calls and not hearing any voice, not voicemail or anything...`
`01:26.06`	`funraps-as`	`== Everyone is busy/congested at this time`
`01:26.06`	`gh0st`	`w0w0: http://asterisk.gnuinter.net/files/cvsnightly/gastman-cvsnightly.tar.gz`
`01:26.48`	`Ranshackle`	`JerJer, do you happen to have a URL?`
`01:26.49`	`w0w0`	`gh0st, tnks`
`01:26.54`	`gh0st`	`w0w0: np`
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`01:28.44`	`JerJer`	`use my company`
`01:28.47`	`JerJer`	`~google OPAL`
`01:29.08`	`JerJer`	`~google OPAL SIP`
`01:30.27`	`funraps-as`	`~docs`
`01:30.28`	`jbot`	`Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org`
`01:31.19`	`mlh407`	`when a user get into vmail, can they press a button to be sent back into a dialplan context?`
`01:31.41`	`Marlow`	`sure ... "#"`
`01:31.59`	`mlh407`	`marlow: where does that put them?`
`01:32.18`	`Marlow`	`i think +1, but i would have to check`
`01:32.25`	`freestyle_networ`	`anyone know a good link to compare all the different codecs used by * ?`
`01:32.40`	`Marlow`	`it's on the wiki ...`
`01:32.52`	`freestyle_networ`	`i know g729 sucks for music on hold, anyone know what if g726 is any better?`
`01:33.46`	`Marlow`	`why should g729 suck for musiconhold ?`
`01:34.14`	`freestyle_networ`	`Marlow, I find its spotty, when i switch to ULAW, its clean`
`01:34.23`	`Marlow`	`it just uses cpu power for transcoding ..`
`01:34.31`	`Marlow`	`depends on your cpu usage`
`01:34.32`	`freestyle_networ`	`Marlow, maybe my servers are whimpy ?`
`01:34.47`	`Marlow`	`yeah :)`
`01:35.00`	`freestyle_networ`	`marlow, show translation is like 36 for ulaw to 729`
`01:35.00`	`Marlow`	`tell them to behave`
`01:35.17`	`freestyle_networ`	`g726 is 7`
`01:35.32`	`zyke`	`any one knows?`
`01:35.38`	`zyke`	`anyone havin a problem with dtmf when using callme files?`
`01:35.40`	`zyke`	`anyone havin a problem with dtmf when using callme files?`
`01:36.06`	`Marlow`	`zyke : once would be enough`
`01:37.05`	`zyke`	`lol`
`01:37.38`	`zyke`	`sorry didn;t mean to`
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`01:39.04`	`zane1`	`hey can anyone recommend a good company to get dedicated servers thru for hosting a VoIP pbx??`
`01:39.54`	`Moc`	`zane1, it depend where you are, VoIP is best when your close to it, or atless the most direct path`
`01:40.06`	`zane1`	`yeah`
`01:40.13`	`zane1`	`well this one would be accessed nationwide`
`01:40.35`	`zane1`	`so maybe something central?`
`01:40.58`	`Marlow`	`zane1 : nationwide where ? the world is big`
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`01:42.03`	`zane1`	`nationwide as in US wide not worldwide`
`01:42.19`	`alibby`	`Greetings. I'm a new user playing with voicetronix support.`
`01:42.43`	`alibby`	`Would it be acceptable for me to ask some (hopefully not too basic) questions?`
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`01:45.19`	`funraps-as`	`Anybody in Israel and South Africa offering local exchange`
`01:45.23`	`funraps-as`	`not $$$`
`01:46.31`	`leandro_pt`	`hum.. is there any kind of changelog for the iaxy firmware?`
`01:48.02`	`czero`	`zane1: sending u a private msg`
`01:54.42`	`Moc`	`boring`
`01:55.09`	`JerJer`	`write code`
`01:55.28`	`Moc`	`JerJer, that is what I was going to do ;)`
`01:57.02`	`Moc`	`anyone have access to modify the CVS ?`
`01:57.30`	`Moc`	`small stupid change`
`01:58.57`	`dan2`	`Moc: kram`
`01:59.57`	`Moc`	`you sure kram have access to it ?? ;) doh hehe`
`02:00.02`	`Moc`	`he is away`
`02:00.09`	`Moc`	`I'll wait I guess`
`02:00.22`	`JerJer`	`what's the stupid change?`
`02:01.05`	`Moc`	`BUGS file have Asterisk 1.0-RC-1 on the first line`
`02:01.25`	`cjk`	`hi, lets say i have a var of a value "abcde" and i want to select every row in mysql where value is included in var? any easy way to do this?`
`02:01.35`	`cjk`	`damn wrong channel`
`02:02.35`	`JerJer`	`cjk: design your schema better`
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`02:03.02`	`voipjet`	`Request: Anyone from Austrlia/NZ or Cali please send me your traceroutes from your Asterisk server to 209.130.174.31`
`02:03.05`	`voipjet`	`Thank you`
`02:03.10`	`scubasteve`	`cjk ? select ___ from ___ where ___ like '%abcde%' ?`
`02:03.36`	`JerJer`	`like does not use indexes`
`02:03.43`	`Mavvie`	`voipjet: /msg me`
`02:03.50`	`scubasteve`	`JerJer .. yeah, well.. ya know :)`
`02:04.15`	`cjk`	`scubasteve, no , that wont werk`
`02:04.22`	`*** join/#asterisk JunK-Y (~junky@modemcable144.95-37-24.mc.videotron.ca)`
`02:04.25`	`nextime`	`Hi, anyone using spandsp to send/receive fax with a X100P card?`
`02:04.26`	`voipjet`	`Mavvie: Ok, send me the traceroute!`
`02:04.35`	`scubasteve`	`cjk .. it should.`
`02:04.47`	`*** part/#asterisk spitalfie (~spitalfie@d235-171-236.home1.cgocable.net)`
`02:04.51`	`cjk`	`var is my dialed number and i have every prefix of every country in my table. now i need to get the longest prefix matching the dialednumber`
`02:04.56`	`JunK-Y`	`what can cause this: Nov 19 21:03:50 WARNING[22253]: chan_sip.c:678 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call d23d49f705a3b11fec14c207dd05164b-55ae66469728@asterisk.voxtel.com for seqno 155675 (Non-critical Response)`
`02:04.57`	`JunK-Y`	`?`
`02:04.57`	`cjk`	`uhh difficult to explain`
`02:05.22`	`scubasteve`	`cjk - Did that at least return one row?`
`02:06.13`	`cjk`	`scubasteve, well my prefixes are smaller then my dialed number, so no it did not`
`02:06.16`	`Moc`	`JunK-Y, I get that all the time, without affecting anything, My guess it generally because of SIP device behind a NAT`
`02:06.31`	`voipjet`	`Mavvie: Why does Australia connect to Seattle and not LAX? Should I put my West Coast servers in Seattle? That can't possibly be right. LA is closer, and the lines should run direct to Sydney.`
`02:06.54`	`Mavvie`	`there are more links from .au to .us`
`02:07.05`	`dan2`	`robl^: hey`
`02:07.36`	`voipjet`	`Yeah, well I wonder if Seattle is tactically a better location. After all, I do know that most Japan links go into Seattle.`
`02:07.39`	`scubasteve`	`cjk - break your dialed number down into parts? ie - first 3, first 4, first 5...? There should be a better way to do what you're trying, but I donno what it is...`
`02:08.00`	`Mavvie`	`voipjet: if you traceroute to 202.83.176.1 you see that that one goes via .nz`
`02:08.06`	`zyke`	`is there a different config for dtmf when using callme files?`
`02:08.12`	`Mavvie`	`that is the uecomm network.`
`02:08.15`	`scubasteve`	`cjk - if you're looking for something that starts with abc.. then do 'abc%' .. something containing abc (anywhere) '%abc%'`
`02:08.28`	`Mavvie`	`uecomm goes via sprint IIRC`
`02:08.40`	`cjk`	`scubasteve, yeah i know how i could do it. but i wanna optimize.`
`02:08.46`	`voipjet`	`Sprint?`
`02:09.03`	`voipjet`	`Let's go see.`
`02:09.37`	`Mavvie`	`oh, global gateway. sprint is has less priority`
`02:10.10`	`Mavvie`	`at least from yahoo.com to 202.83.176.1`
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`02:10.58`	`voipjet`	`What does everyone else in the channel think? I was going to go with 100% GlobalCrossing bandwidth in 1 Wilshire . . .but if we can do better, why not, since my original plan isn't cheap`
`02:11.12`	`Mavvie`	`if you go to telstra.com you see it goes via reach.com`
`02:11.33`	`Mavvie`	`lots of fiber under the wocean.`
`02:11.47`	`sphyrna`	`voipjet: LA is a NAP serving most of Latin and South America (Miami being the other), Australia et all probabably getting better speed by using the ILC into Seattle or SF atm`
`02:11.50`	`mlh407`	`Hi all (bkw :) )`
`02:12.39`	`mlh407`	`why would asterisk ignore a regiter command by show peers, if I do a iax show register ig et nothing even though I have about 3 of them, if I do a iax show peers they show up, I am running cvs stable as of today`
`02:12.50`	`voipjet`	`sphyrna: Well, if you could only have one West Coast Server (for USA customers, Australia and Japan) where would you put it?`
`02:13.09`	`voipjet`	`Almost all my Brazil traffic goes into my East Coast in New York. Great latency`
`02:13.28`	`sphyrna`	`voipjet: Spokane Washington`
`02:13.51`	`sphyrna`	`no weather, no earthquakes`
`02:14.05`	`voipjet`	`Yeah, but I'm more concerned with pings and jitter`
`02:14.13`	`voipjet`	`Don't worry about the floods =)`
`02:14.21`	`bkw_`	`you can't use ping to tell true latency`
`02:14.50`	`voipjet`	`You can is you ping the right stuff`
`02:14.57`	`bkw_`	`no you can't`
`02:15.01`	`voipjet`	`Why not?`
`02:15.12`	`bkw_`	`most networks give ICMP lower priority than other traffic or rate limit it`
`02:15.17`	`voipjet`	`Besides, I use the trace more than anything`
`02:15.28`	`bkw_`	`still icmp`
`02:15.34`	`sphyrna`	`voipjet: I am in Miami with traffic going from here to India via NYC via London Eng via France, through Turkey across the middle east .... no jitter`
`02:15.35`	`voipjet`	`bkw_ That's only true on cheapo networks. The pings via Level(3) and GlobalCrossing are true`
`02:15.46`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+q voipjet!@] by bkw_`
`02:15.52`	`sixTel`	`lmao.`
`02:15.57`	`bkw_`	`i get sick of his spewing crap in here`
`02:16.00`	`Godsey`	`most networks drop udp during congestion too :)`
`02:16.02`	`bkw_`	`take it to #asterisk-biz`
`02:16.06`	`syslod`	`Level3 and GC do TOS and QOS on ICMP!!!`
`02:16.24`	`*** mode/#asterisk [-q voipjet!@] by bkw_`
`02:16.27`	`bkw_`	`I can't be mean now`
`02:16.42`	`voipjet`	`bkw_ See what syslod wrote`
`02:16.44`	`dan2`	`what are some SIP voip termination services that just let me do outbound calls`
`02:16.45`	`Mavvie`	`/ignore is better than +q`
`02:16.59`	`syslod`	`I was in aggrement with bkw_`
`02:16.59`	`bkw_`	`riight like someone will do TOS and QOS on ICMP`
`02:17.10`	`bkw_`	`they lower it ya`
`02:17.13`	`syslod`	`They tag it and limit it.`
`02:17.17`	`bkw_`	`yep`
`02:17.19`	`voipjet`	`bkw_ Level(3)'s total network usage is LESS THAN TEN PERCENT`
`02:17.29`	`JerJer`	`bullshit`
`02:17.36`	`bkw_`	`voipjet you have no wya to tell and if their network was at 10% they would be out of business`
`02:17.39`	`JerJer`	`complete bullshit`
`02:17.40`	`sphyrna`	`voipjet: who was the salesman?`
`02:17.47`	`voipjet`	`See their website`
`02:17.49`	`bkw_`	`ALL data centers are a victim of their own success`
`02:17.58`	`bkw_`	`at some point`
`02:18.00`	`syslod`	`What in the hell are you talking about voipjet. ????`
`02:18.00`	`scubasteve`	`voipjet I betcha they can find some non spews blacklisted IP space for ya too?`
`02:18.03`	`Godsey`	`our network is pretty underutilized :)`
`02:18.12`	`Godsey`	`we have 2 100meg uplinks and push about 6megs of traffic`
`02:18.26`	`bkw_`	`Godsey same here`
`02:18.27`	`scubasteve`	`Godsey ... yeah, similar situation at $dayjob too..`
`02:18.39`	`Godsey`	`it's those bursts that get ya :)`
`02:18.42`	`bkw_`	`we have capacity for those WHEN YOU NEED IT`
`02:18.47`	`bkw_`	`times`
`02:18.53`	`Godsey`	`and customers like being able to download 3meg/sec`
`02:18.54`	`bkw_`	`god my enter key is silly today`
`02:18.56`	`voipjet`	`JerJer: Given that you know nothing about Level(3) you should probably not say anything`
`02:19.10`	`sixTel`	`I can buy level3 at $35/meg but instead I pay $95/meg at ServerCentral`
`02:19.13`	`Godsey`	`we have a level3 link`
`02:19.17`	`bkw_`	`voipjet Given that you know nothing about the internals of asterisk you should probably not use it!`
`02:19.22`	`Godsey`	`we turned it down, contract ends dec 20th`
`02:19.25`	`Godsey`	`it's a pos`
`02:19.34`	`czero`	`I kno wthat there are no tier 1 networks running @ less then 10%`
`02:19.37`	`Godsey`	`their routing sucks so bad`
`02:19.38`	`sixTel`	`if Level3 was all great I would be there only.`
`02:19.43`	`bkw_`	`voipjet so what was the last patch you submited to fix a bug in asterisk?`
`02:19.45`	`Moc`	`generally, cheap bandwidth = ... cheap bandwidth..`
`02:19.58`	`Moc`	`I pay my traffic at high price, but I get good quality`
`02:20.00`	`bkw_`	`their is cheap bandwidth`
`02:20.02`	`voipjet`	`Level(3) Has incredible bandwidth in CONUS`
`02:20.03`	`bkw_`	`and dirty bandwidth`
`02:20.14`	`bkw_`	`dirty bandwidth bad for voice`
`02:20.15`	`welby`	`l3 has been rather crap recently`
`02:20.16`	`*** join/#asterisk yellow_fuzzy (~yellowfuz@c211-30-2-126.wavrl1.nsw.optusnet.com.au)`
`02:20.18`	`sixTel`	`bkw_: the patch you submitted is awesome.`
`02:20.21`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`hi`
`02:20.24`	`bkw_`	`sixTel ;)`
`02:20.27`	`bkw_`	`anthm and I did that`
`02:20.33`	`Moc`	`i never heard good thing from l3`
`02:20.33`	`bkw_`	`he did most of it.. I was the tester`
`02:20.37`	`Godsey`	`we got the pipe as geniuty, it was good as bbn :)`
`02:20.40`	`PTG123`	`GBLX bw is very cheap, and the highest quality`
`02:20.50`	`dan2`	`voipjet: do you work for voipjet or something?`
`02:20.52`	`Godsey`	`but now we go from bellingham WA, to san jose cali, back to seattle`
`02:20.52`	`bkw_`	`bbn == genuity?`
`02:20.53`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`is there any one here familiar with X-ten X-Pro and/or the engin.com.au service`
`02:20.54`	`PTG123`	`latency with them is much less then everyone else`
`02:20.57`	`Godsey`	`bkw yes`
`02:21.04`	`Godsey`	`as1 ;)`
`02:21.06`	`bkw_`	`dan2 no HE IS VOIPJET ONE GUY.. TWO SERVERS`
`02:21.10`	`voipjet`	`I would say that Level3 is #1, followed by GLBX and Savvis (for only some parts of the world)`
`02:21.11`	`czero`	`I like savvis, the old CW part not sure about the stuff that is old savvis`
`02:21.20`	`Moc`	`hi yellow_fuzzy, how do you like taolinux ?`
`02:21.21`	`bkw_`	`3ms latency to all peering points on the planet..`
`02:21.24`	`bkw_`	`or so he says`
`02:21.26`	`bkw_`	`:P`
`02:21.33`	`dan2`	`haha`
`02:21.33`	`welby`	`level3 used to be good, but as of recent they have got a bit crap`
`02:21.36`	`voipjet`	`bkw_ Please read the website more carefully`
`02:21.36`	`welby`	`lots of packet loss at NY/Wasington recently, which was annoying for us UK people`
`02:21.43`	`dan2`	`bkw_: I hope he has something that can traverse the speed of light`
`02:21.52`	`dan2`	`bkw_: and faster`
`02:21.58`	`Godsey`	`we've recently been doing lots of private peering`
`02:22.02`	`Godsey`	`which has really helped :)`
`02:22.09`	`bkw_`	`voipjet I don't have ot read it.. you were in here SAYING EXACTLY THAT`
`02:22.13`	`welby`	`theplanet's nets great and to thier border routers from dllstx2 3ms is high`
`02:22.15`	`voipjet`	`bkw_ When you have more than 900 customers, please come and let us all know. Thanks.`
`02:22.16`	`bkw_`	`JerJer was here oto when yous aid it`
`02:22.23`	`JerJer`	`yep`
`02:22.24`	`bkw_`	`voipjet DONE`
`02:22.31`	`czero`	`Godsey which exachnges are you in I work fora large provider always adding peers :)`
`02:22.37`	`voipjet`	`bkw_ Ever heard of updates and changes?`
`02:22.40`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`Moc: yeh tao linux is really nice and ive been able to get internal extensions setup on astericks just trying to get my VOIP provider engin.com.au working, but they are being real bitches and will only give out there preconfigured version of Xten X-Pro`
`02:22.43`	`Moc`	`theplanet aint that great, I love their server hosting price, but bandwidth for VoIP... im really not sure`
`02:22.44`	`Godsey`	`Seattle SIX`
`02:22.47`	`denon`	`hmm, so not much has changed in my absense ..`
`02:22.51`	`denon`	`absence`
`02:22.52`	`denon`	`whatever`
`02:22.56`	`voipjet`	`bkw_ Not done. And eveyone knows it.`
`02:23.01`	`czero`	`CAn't help there I'm not in the west yet`
`02:23.08`	`bkw_`	`voipjet you do realize that I AM NOT JUST ASTERLINK`
`02:23.10`	`Moc`	`yellow_fuzzy, :(`
`02:23.13`	`bkw_`	`we are more`
`02:23.13`	`czero`	`we're clusters in Chi, NY and DC`
`02:23.23`	`bkw_`	`and we do have more than 900 customers on our platform`
`02:23.27`	`Godsey`	`czero: we're about to turn up a 100meg pipe w/ wvfiber.com`
`02:23.33`	`Qwell`	`yellow_fuzzy: Spell it with me. a-s-t-e-r-i-s-k You keep spelling it wrong, man. :p`
`02:23.49`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`lol sorry Qwell`
`02:23.52`	`Moc`	`Over here, my link are with Bell canada, TelUs, Videotron and Peer1`
`02:23.53`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`02:23.55`	`czero`	`Godsey we don't do 100M private peers GigE only`
`02:23.55`	`Equinox`	`Godsey- How much do they run?`
`02:24.08`	`czero`	`day job noy my own thing :)`
`02:24.11`	`Godsey`	`$2675/100meg`
`02:24.15`	`voipjet`	`bkw_ Do you realize you are alot less than Asterlink and the only reason it hasn't folded in the money it has access to?`
`02:24.40`	`Qwell`	`ooo, a good old fashion flamewar`
`02:24.52`	`voipjet`	`He started it`
`02:24.53`	`scubasteve`	`oh boy, here it comes.`
`02:24.55`	`sphyrna`	`and on a Friday night too`
`02:24.59`	`Qwell`	`voipjet: He's an op :p`
`02:25.00`	`zyke`	`anyone havin a problem with dtmf when using callme files?`
`02:25.01`	`file[laptop]`	`666`
`02:25.10`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`so no other aussies in here?`
`02:25.12`	`voipjet`	`I was talking about Level(3) which is something I know a LOT about`
`02:25.14`	`welby`	`Moc theplanet aint that great, I love their server hosting price, but bandwidth for VoIP... im really not sure <-- i'd agree at the moment, altough they are working on it, its impoving month by month really`
`02:25.14`	`syslod`	`zyke: Callme?`
`02:25.21`	`zyke`	`call files`
`02:25.23`	`czero`	`was more fun bashing telcom's I'm to new here to dislike anyone yet :)`
`02:25.39`	`zyke`	`is there a different config for dtmf when using call files?`
`02:25.46`	`Moc`	`welby, my other problem is, they are in texas hehe`
`02:25.53`	`Moc`	`alittle far from me`
`02:25.57`	`welby`	`lol`
`02:25.58`	`bkw_`	`voipjet ONE GUY.. TWO BOXES.. NO MATCH!!!`
`02:26.09`	`welby`	`same here, i'm in the uk, texas is a bit far`
`02:26.15`	`Moc`	`ok this has to stop`
`02:26.27`	`denon`	`Moc: this will never stop .. human nature.`
`02:26.30`	`JerJer`	`voipjet simply resells someone elses VoIP`
`02:26.39`	`bkw_`	`yep`
`02:26.44`	`voipjet`	`bkw_ So how come you have worse service than us for high cost? Are you trying to be the next Nufone?`
`02:26.55`	`bkw_`	`worse?`
`02:26.56`	`sixTel`	`that's just messed up`
`02:27.04`	`zyke`	`nufone is crap`
`02:27.08`	`voipjet`	`Yes it is`
`02:27.10`	`Moc`	`zyke ???`
`02:27.12`	`sixTel`	`eh`
`02:27.13`	`Moc`	`nufone rock`
`02:27.13`	`denon`	`why's that? I like nufone just fine ..`
`02:27.13`	`*** kick/#asterisk [voipjet!~brian@asterisk.bkw.org] by bkw_ (No one will be left to prove the humans existed.)`
`02:27.13`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+b !beorn@*.magma.ca] by bkw_`
`02:27.13`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+b voipjet!*beorn@ottawa-hs-64-26-155-97.s-ip.magma.ca] by bkw_`
`02:27.14`	`JerJer`	`zyke: thank you`
`02:27.15`	`sixTel`	`nufone is cool`
`02:27.16`	`bkw_`	`fuck zyke`
`02:27.19`	`*** kick/#asterisk [zyke!~brian@asterisk.bkw.org] by bkw_ (BitchX Baaaaabyyyy)`
`02:27.19`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+b !xirak@*.bulldogdsl.com] by bkw_`
`02:27.19`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+b zyke!*xirak@host-212-158-223-139.bulldogdsl.com] by bkw_`
`02:27.24`	`*** join/#asterisk in-side (~noname@50-171.dial.nortenet.pt)`
`02:27.25`	`bkw_`	`anyone else wanna fuck with me`
`02:27.26`	`in-side`	`Hi`
`02:27.37`	`welby`	`lol`
`02:27.37`	`sphyrna`	`or ONE STRING, TWO TIN CANS, NO MATCH`
`02:27.41`	`bkw_`	`this is NOT THE PLAST for a pissing contest`
`02:27.44`	`Moc`	`bkw_, it not the way to deal with this, it will just make matter worst..`
`02:27.47`	`bkw_`	`er PLACE`
`02:27.49`	`denon`	`bkw_: hmm .. I would if I could think of somethin to pick at you about`
`02:27.49`	`bkw_`	`fuck I can't type`
`02:27.53`	`denon`	`gimme some time, I'll come up with somethin`
`02:27.56`	`in-side`	`does anyone know how my astwerisk refuse to read the stuff from the database?`
`02:27.59`	`denon`	`:)`
`02:28.06`	`in-side`	`is there any special sectret ?`
`02:28.26`	`Equinox`	`Anyone know an inexpensive PRI source?`
`02:28.45`	`denon`	`Equinox: ditchwich and a cable splicer`
`02:28.46`	`sphyrna`	`in-side: ddid you gett the passswd right?`
`02:28.53`	`Equinox`	`denon- Haha.`
`02:28.57`	`in-side`	`ya where do i set it?`
`02:29.00`	`denon`	`oh, now you want LEGAL too?`
`02:29.03`	`in-side`	`just ot confirm`
`02:29.05`	`Equinox`	`denon- Challenging to add DIDs tho..`
`02:29.17`	`denon`	`Equinox: nah, just find out which ones they have :)`
`02:29.22`	`dan2`	`bkw_: I am still trying to figure out how voipjet can get rates of 1.3c per minute and still be profiting`
`02:29.25`	`in-side`	`I did config all res_ filles`
`02:29.41`	`bkw_`	`dan2 he isn't but this isn't the place for anything like that.. he just pisses me off`
`02:29.45`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`now how can i con the SIP server details out of my VOIP provider`
`02:29.46`	`syslod`	`Equinox: usually the CLEC serving your area.`
`02:29.50`	`mlh407`	`does anyone know if I can point mp3player to a directory rather then a file`
`02:29.53`	`Moc`	`sixTel, I tryed it this afternoon, and it didnt work :(`
`02:30.03`	`sixTel`	`moc: k.`
`02:30.10`	`syslod`	`mIh407: It should do that by default.`
`02:30.13`	`in-side`	`Tele 2 in europe has 0,005 cents for national calls`
`02:30.31`	`Qwell`	`0.005 cents per minute?`
`02:30.35`	`in-side`	`yap`
`02:30.40`	`in-side`	`euro cents`
`02:30.42`	`Qwell`	`voip is dirt cheap, isn't it?`
`02:30.53`	`dan2`	`bkw_: do you know of any voip providers allowing cheap outbound termination`
`02:30.57`	`Moc`	`Qwell, yes it is`
`02:30.57`	`in-side`	`national calls in pstn`
`02:31.29`	`in-side`	`why hell my asterisk isn't loading my configs from mysql database ?`
`02:31.29`	`Moc`	`my phone bill got from 60$/month to 6$/month`
`02:31.34`	`in-side`	`it simple ignores it`
`02:31.38`	`dan2`	`bkw_: I think I need to poke my boss with state-to-state minute rates of 3.9c per minute when half the world is doing at least 2c or better`
`02:32.08`	`in-side`	`do i have to delete the conf files ?`
`02:32.20`	`Qwell`	`So, to start using VOIP, what is needed? Let's pretend I have some FXS cards already, and a working * config. Just an account with a voip place?`
`02:32.23`	`in-side`	`to have asterisk loading all then from mysql ?`
`02:32.26`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`i get 10c untimed to capital cities, or 10c/min national calls but they only provide you with a preconfigured softphone`
`02:32.30`	`dan2`	`bkw_: in fact, its currently setup where its cheaper to call london than us`
`02:32.51`	`Mavvie`	`Qwell: depends on your calling pattern :-)`
`02:33.11`	`bkw_`	`dan2 haha ya`
`02:33.15`	`syslod`	`in-side: What are you using for mysql?`
`02:33.16`	`in-side`	`hey guys does anyone here use databases to store configurations?`
`02:33.32`	`in-side`	`to store all my configurations dialplans and what so ever`
`02:33.32`	`bkw_`	`I don't use the phone much really`
`02:33.37`	`bkw_`	`maybe 1 hour a month`
`02:33.43`	`bkw_`	`AT MOST for personal stuff`
`02:33.49`	`in-side`	`but it refuses to use mysql and continues to use normal conf files`
`02:33.56`	`bkw_`	`I do good to call everyone I know on the internet without touching the PSTN`
`02:33.57`	`dan2`	`bkw_: which is kinda retarded`
`02:34.10`	`syslod`	`in_side: What are you using? ODBC or realtime MYSQL?`
`02:34.24`	`in-side`	`i don't know i think it is obdc`
`02:34.33`	`in-side`	`cause i'm using 1.0.1 version`
`02:34.36`	`syslod`	`Look at extconfig`
`02:34.47`	`dan2`	`bkw_: though, BV has been stable for the last few months`
`02:34.55`	`in-side`	`queues.conf => odbc`
`02:35.03`	`modulus_`	`app_dbodbc sucks`
`02:35.15`	`bkw_`	`modulus_ you just don't get it`
`02:35.20`	`modulus_`	`yes i do`
`02:35.25`	`bkw_`	`modulus_ you're saying I SUCK`
`02:35.28`	`modulus_`	`database design is horrible`
`02:35.29`	`bkw_`	`I WROTEI T`
`02:35.33`	`in-side`	`syslod: it is queues.conf => odbc`
`02:35.37`	`in-side`	`so i think is obdc`
`02:35.39`	`Chuji`	`bkw_ : your boss is an animal man. Lots of new cool shizz on the bugtracker`
`02:35.41`	`bkw_`	`you have ot stay within the confines of what it is ment to emulate`
`02:35.43`	`bkw_`	`app_Db.c`
`02:35.50`	`Moc`	`bkw_, well, you do suck dont you ? ;)`
`02:35.56`	`dan2`	`bkw_: odbc sucks in general`
`02:35.57`	`bkw_`	`Moc but not in that way ;P`
`02:36.00`	`syslod`	`What does -vvvvvvvc tell you.`
`02:36.02`	`Moc`	`hhhaaa ;)`
`02:36.07`	`bkw_`	`dan2 spoken like someone that knows nothing`
`02:36.07`	`in-side`	`rotfl`
`02:36.11`	`bkw_`	`odbc doesn' suck at all`
`02:36.12`	`in-side`	`lot of stuff`
`02:36.13`	`in-side`	`:s`
`02:36.13`	`bkw_`	`if you say it does`
`02:36.14`	`dan2`	`bkw_: odbc, not the driver itself`
`02:36.18`	`bkw_`	`no`
`02:36.23`	`bkw_`	`ODBC is pretty damn sweet`
`02:36.29`	`bkw_`	`each driver might such`
`02:36.31`	`bkw_`	`but ODBC is nice`
`02:36.33`	`dan2`	`bkw_: odbc is by far the most bloated slowest database framework ever existed`
`02:36.35`	`bkw_`	`the pgsql driver sucks`
`02:36.36`	`in-side`	`how can i put into a file or a log`
`02:36.38`	`modulus_`	`neat concept always poorly implimented`
`02:36.39`	`*** join/#asterisk david (~david@muffin.davidcoulson.net)`
`02:36.41`	`bkw_`	`dan2 its not`
`02:36.42`	`in-side`	`the result or so many verbose`
`02:36.43`	`in-side`	`rotfl`
`02:36.51`	`bkw_`	`its about 20-30% slower than native db access`
`02:36.52`	`bkw_`	`at most`
`02:36.59`	`bkw_`	`and you'll get that with any abstraction layer`
`02:37.13`	`*** mode/#asterisk [-b voipjet!*beorn@ottawa-hs-64-26-155-97.s-ip.magma.ca] by bkw_`
`02:37.18`	`*** mode/#asterisk [-b zyke!*xirak@host-212-158-223-139.bulldogdsl.com] by bkw_`
`02:37.27`	`bkw_`	`unless you're doing 5000 queries a second its not an issue`
`02:37.34`	`dan2`	`bkw_: heh`
`02:37.35`	`bkw_`	`and thats on a 1ghz box`
`02:37.40`	`modulus_`	`bkw, you should have one table per config file`
`02:37.44`	`dan2`	`bkw_: I avoid odbc when possible`
`02:37.52`	`bkw_`	`modulus_ app_dbodbc has nothing to do with res_config`
`02:37.52`	`in-side`	`damn how can i read such thing with so many verbose`
`02:37.55`	`bkw_`	`its all standalone`
`02:37.57`	`in-side`	`hey guys focus me`
`02:37.58`	`in-side`	`please`
`02:38.06`	`dan2`	`bkw_: my db engineer decides whats best for the dbs`
`02:38.07`	`denon`	`focus you?`
`02:38.07`	`Moc`	`Anyone in here got Asterisk in a big lawfirm ?`
`02:38.16`	`Mavvie`	`Moc: yes`
`02:38.18`	`syslod`	`in-side: Read your vebose and look to see problems.`
`02:38.19`	`in-side`	`or at least the ones that was trying to help me`
`02:38.23`	`modulus_`	`i have a longfirm. does that count?`
`02:38.24`	`syslod`	`Moc: We do.`
`02:38.25`	`cypromis`	`Moc: yes`
`02:38.26`	`Chuji`	`Moc : i'm working on one`
`02:38.29`	`in-side`	`I can scroll all up`
`02:38.34`	`dan2`	`bkw_: does clearstar even exist yet`
`02:38.36`	`in-side`	`how can i have it in a log ?`
`02:38.40`	`bkw_`	`dan2 almost ;)`
`02:38.45`	`bkw_`	`its very close`
`02:38.48`	`syslod`	`asterisk -vvvvvvvvc \| more`
`02:39.09`	`in-side`	`no errors :(`
`02:39.11`	`Mavvie`	`syslod: don't. it will break when the input buffer of more is full.`
`02:39.15`	`dan2`	`bkw_: are you going to start selling the software?`
`02:39.15`	`Moc`	`You got any sucess story ? Im working for a law firm, and they only want to look at Cisco ..`
`02:39.25`	`bkw_`	`dan2 its going to be preconfigured boxes`
`02:39.35`	`syslod`	`more works here.`
`02:39.37`	`bkw_`	`with a nice clicky interface`
`02:39.37`	`dan2`	`bkw_: can you buy the software`
`02:39.47`	`dan2`	`bkw_: oo clicky clicky`
`02:39.48`	`bkw_`	`dan2 its just asterisk with our interface`
`02:39.50`	`in-side`	`should i search for something special ?`
`02:39.56`	`Moc`	`one guy told me, just give me one big lawfirm that use *... I love to get contact to get my collegue to check with their manager on the success`
`02:40.08`	`dan2`	`bkw_: how much would I have to pay you to use your interface`
`02:40.14`	`czero`	`law firm will be loking for someone to hold liable if ther eis an issue, will be have to get them to use open source I'm sure`
`02:40.15`	`Mavvie`	`syslod: it will break when the input buffer of more is full, causing asterisk not to be able to write to stdout anymore and hang it later on.`
`02:40.30`	`Mavvie`	`syslod: of course, feel free to use it but don't say I didn't warn you.`
`02:40.36`	`bkw_`	`dan2 the interface will have two options .. standard PBX and Service provider`
`02:40.37`	`syslod`	`Moc: Yea I have 2 up and running and converting 4 others. The 2 have offices in two different counties and wanted to link. We used all Polycoms. biggest challenge was building a DSS console using AGI.`
`02:40.54`	`in-side`	`I have no errors`
`02:41.00`	`WilliamK`	`ouch... asterisk is eating 99% of one of my cpus`
`02:41.03`	`WilliamK`	`with 1 call up`
`02:41.05`	`modulus_`	`bkw_, yes but how many languages is it gonna support?`
`02:41.16`	`bkw_`	`WilliamK sounds like a dead lock`
`02:41.21`	`Equinox`	`What is AGI?`
`02:41.21`	`Moc`	`syslod, interesting, how many phones per office ?`
`02:41.22`	`bkw_`	`modulus_ what languaes for what?`
`02:41.32`	`in-side`	`syslod: nothing special i don't find any error`
`02:41.35`	`modulus_`	`your clicky clicky`
`02:41.35`	`syslod`	`One has about 40 phones the other is around 25`
`02:41.47`	`syslod`	`Do you see anything about ODBC or mysql?`
`02:41.53`	`Moc`	`ha, Im looking at 200phone +`
`02:41.59`	`Godsey`	`I'll try asterisk again soon :)`
`02:42.10`	`Godsey`	`some day it will support agents to my liking :)`
`02:42.13`	`in-side`	`nopes`
`02:42.14`	`Moc`	`the setup I like to do is 510 phones`
`02:42.15`	`syslod`	`Moc: We have a hospital with 600 phones coming in Jan.`
`02:42.18`	`in-side`	`it just ignores it`
`02:42.27`	`in-side`	`it looks for the conf files`
`02:42.33`	`in-side`	`and say it has found then`
`02:42.35`	`syslod`	`Moc: How is that 200 phone+ working?`
`02:42.37`	`in-side`	`then continue to load`
`02:42.53`	`Moc`	`syslod, i dont have that setup yet.`
`02:43.09`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`does asterisk have any support for outgoing proxys?`
`02:43.10`	`syslod`	`in-side: it should load if things are working right from the DB.`
`02:43.17`	`modulus_`	`anyone else here try the clipcomm phones?`
`02:43.20`	`Moc`	`We are moving in 2006 to a new building, and we are thinking to change the phone system with IP. But they only wish to look at Cisco so far..`
`02:43.21`	`syslod`	`Moc: Oh. Whats the largest install?`
`02:43.22`	`Godsey`	`my p4 2.8 handles 600 simultanious sip calls w/ no problem`
`02:43.26`	`modulus_`	`the quality is 10X better than the GS100`
`02:43.28`	`Godsey`	`(on mistake) but it didn't hurt anything :)`
`02:43.30`	`in-side`	`syslod: thinks are there`
`02:43.31`	`in-side`	`:S`
`02:43.37`	`Moc`	`syslod, my personal largest install is 5 phones ;)`
`02:43.41`	`in-side`	`connection is been doing ok`
`02:43.43`	`in-side`	`but..`
`02:43.51`	`in-side`	`it continues to load the conf files`
`02:43.57`	`in-side`	`and work with it`
`02:44.00`	`Moc`	`but having 5 or 500 phones should be the same`
`02:44.09`	`Godsey`	`I'm wondering what happens if it gets 8000 calls :)`
`02:44.11`	`Moc`	`just need a good interface for the IT staff to manage phones`
`02:44.16`	`Godsey`	`if a APX8100 goes nuts :)`
`02:44.16`	`in-side`	`is there any place where I have to say to asterisk to read on from db ?`
`02:44.28`	`Moc`	`the lawfirm have a total of 2300 user/phones`
`02:44.37`	`czero`	`Moc thats alot of phones :)`
`02:44.38`	`Moc`	`+ maybe 100 conference phone`
`02:44.48`	`modulus_`	`Moc, buy them all cisco phones using * server`
`02:44.54`	`Moc`	`yea, Montreal office have 510, Toronto has 900`
`02:45.06`	`sivana`	`dammit... I think I got a dud T100P`
`02:45.09`	`in-side`	`:S`
`02:45.12`	`syslod`	`Moc: We have a very good UI we added to our CRM package.`
`02:45.15`	`Godsey`	`we use asterisk for after hours righ tnow`
`02:45.19`	`sivana`	`anyone get a defective item on ship from Digium before?`
`02:45.23`	`Moc`	`modulus_, the problem is if I propose Cisco phone, they will go with Call manager, since the price is just about 30k more`
`02:45.25`	`PTG123`	`anyone here use voipjet?`
`02:45.26`	`Godsey`	`it only has 2 agents using it :)`
`02:45.42`	`WilliamK`	`PTG123 I have a connection up with them`
`02:45.44`	`Godsey`	`we're still using nortel during day but thinking about using cisco Call manager instead`
`02:45.49`	`WilliamK`	`more-less testing`
`02:45.56`	`in-side`	`syslod: where i have to say to * to start using the database ?`
`02:46.04`	`in-side`	`i n wich conf file ?`
`02:46.08`	`modulus_`	`in-side, ask bkw_`
`02:46.11`	`Godsey`	`I can't code to save my life or I would :)`
`02:46.16`	`modulus_`	`he WROTE IT`
`02:46.21`	`in-side`	`really`
`02:46.28`	`Moc`	`modulus_, Polycom have alot more features than cisco, and cost half the price`
`02:46.29`	`Godsey`	`when an AgentCallBackLogin() logs OFF it breaks all current SIP calls`
`02:46.51`	`syslod`	`I thought it was in extconf but I don't remember honestly. Lemme login.`
`02:46.51`	`Moc`	`I find polycom display easier to read too`
`02:46.59`	`modulus_`	`Moc, i'm still waiting for my polycom so far i've only tested gs100, clipcomm, snom, cisco`
`02:47.02`	`denon`	`Moc: polycom doesn't really have any type of xml services, do they?`
`02:47.03`	`modulus_`	`i like clipcomm the best`
`02:47.14`	`Moc`	`denon, IP 600 does, IP 500 dont`
`02:47.22`	`Moc`	`well I dont think IP 500 have it`
`02:47.42`	`Chuji`	`Moc : you're right. Just the 600`
`02:47.51`	`modulus_`	`clipcomm has an "ADSL" option which supports the 2 major dsl providers in s. korea`
`02:48.09`	`denon`	`how much is the IP600?`
`02:48.16`	`syslod`	`$450`
`02:48.16`	`Moc`	`denon, 325$ CND`
`02:48.22`	`Moc`	`syslod, you crazy`
`02:48.25`	`syslod`	`$450 US retail`
`02:48.40`	`denon`	`hmm .. how is that cheaper than cisco?`
`02:48.46`	`denon`	`not by much..`
`02:48.55`	`Moc`	`denon, how much is the cisco 7960 ?`
`02:48.58`	`Godsey`	`because cisco is 460 + 150 for sip license?`
`02:49.10`	`syslod`	`Moc: U have a cheaper dist?`
`02:49.24`	`Moc`	`syslod, well Canada rock. ;)`
`02:49.35`	`Moc`	`you should look at froogle.com`
`02:49.42`	`Moc`	`Im sure they have better price`
`02:49.51`	`denon`	`the speaker phone any good on em?`
`02:50.00`	`syslod`	`speaker is excellent.`
`02:50.01`	`denon`	`I LOVE the cisco speaker phones`
`02:50.03`	`modulus_`	`clipcomm speaker fone rawks`
`02:50.10`	`Moc`	`yes Polycom Speaker phones is better than cisco`
`02:50.11`	`leandro_pt`	`anyone use the aastra 480i?`
`02:50.18`	`Moc`	`denon, polycom is better`
`02:50.26`	`denon`	`I'd be surprised . .`
`02:50.33`	`Chuji`	`denon : Cisco uses polycom's hardware for the speakerphone`
`02:50.35`	`syslod`	`polycom basically makes the best speaker phone availible.`
`02:50.44`	`czero`	`agrees`
`02:50.44`	`Chuji`	`Polycom rules the speaker phone market`
`02:50.48`	`Moc`	`denon, It basicly the SAME, EXCEPT, polycom use better speaker ;)`
`02:51.05`	`denon`	`they have a powered connector for headset/etc too?`
`02:51.07`	`Moc`	`so the sound is more rich..`
`02:51.30`	`Moc`	`if you got both between each other, you really hear the difference, Cisco sound cheap compared ;)`
`02:51.42`	`Moc`	`denon, yes`
`02:51.59`	`Moc`	`come with Powersupply by default too`
`02:52.12`	`denon`	`well, I dont mind the lack of PS on cisco, half the time we do PoE`
`02:52.16`	`Moc`	`IP 600 is supose to have a DAMN NICE display, 320x180`
`02:52.42`	`denon`	`I dont think that description fits anything less than VGA :)`
`02:52.44`	`Moc`	`denon, well I dont have PoE switch, but IP 500 need special cable for PoE standards. But it has it own PoE equippement`
`02:53.10`	`Moc`	`denon, I find the I`
`02:53.17`	`syslod`	`600 looks nice with custom logos..`
`02:53.19`	`Moc`	`denon, I find the IP 500 display very nice, and easy to read`
`02:53.24`	`denon`	`blah .. "Amplified headsets are recommended"`
`02:53.26`	`denon`	`that sucks.`
`02:53.41`	`Moc`	`denon, they are always are recommended`
`02:53.50`	`Moc`	`you can upload windows Font file to your polycom phone`
`02:54.10`	`denon`	`moc: well, on ciscos there's no need .. if I crank it all the way up, its so loud I can barely stand it`
`02:54.18`	`denon`	`even in loud environments`
`02:54.54`	`Moc`	`denon, I have a CS10 headset, so I donno if it work well without amplifier`
`02:55.40`	`denon`	`we sell mostly GN Netcom headsets`
`02:55.57`	`Moc`	`denon, stuff I like too about polycom, you can have multiple Voicemail Extentions. You can Reject an incoming call`
`02:56.09`	`Moc`	`you can DIAL a number BEFORE taking a line`
`02:56.16`	`Moc`	`so you can dial, and pickup the handset`
`02:56.20`	`Moc`	`and it will dial`
`02:56.43`	`Moc`	`denon, you should look at the xml configuration system..`
`02:56.49`	`denon`	`how does that differ from the cisco?`
`02:56.59`	`denon`	`it doesnt send the sip dial until you hit dial, or the timeout hits`
`02:57.06`	`Moc`	`you need to pickup a line on the cisco before dialling`
`02:57.14`	`denon`	`I just hit new call`
`02:57.17`	`Moc`	`exactly`
`02:57.21`	`Moc`	`you dont need on the polycom`
`02:57.23`	`denon`	`whats so hard about that?`
`02:57.29`	`Moc`	`it just anoying`
`02:57.40`	`Moc`	`alot of people are use to that on Meridian system`
`02:57.41`	`denon`	`well .. otherwise you might pick up an incoming call by mistake :)`
`02:58.01`	`denon`	`besides, Im always on the headset anyway`
`02:58.09`	`denon`	`so new call/end call are all I ever need to use`
`02:58.36`	`Moc`	`you could only punch the number and press dial`
`02:58.50`	`Moc`	`I ratter do that than pickup a line and then dial`
`02:59.26`	`Moc`	`denon, Polycom phone support Line Lamp like the snom phone`
`02:59.44`	`Moc`	`polycom is really the ultimate * phone`
`03:00.03`	`Moc`	`Intercom config is really well made, you can customise it like you wish`
`03:00.18`	`Moc`	`ring xMS before automatic pickup or what ever`
`03:00.45`	`Moc`	`denon, check http://www.freedomphones.net/polycom/files/Admin_Guide-SoundPoint_IP_SIP_2004-06-16.pdf`
`03:00.56`	`Moc`	`you will see what else you can modify on the phone`
`03:01.07`	`Moc`	`you can customize about everything`
`03:01.09`	`PTG123`	`anyone in here sell DIDs in arizona? :)`
`03:01.41`	`modulus_`	`i can`
`03:01.45`	`modulus_`	`for the right price`
`03:02.29`	`Equinox`	`Some of the online sales places for Polycom IP 300 phones say "Requires Authorization".. Any idea what this is?`
`03:02.31`	`syslod`	`polycom has won numerous awards placing first over cisco, mitel etc.`
`03:02.46`	`syslod`	`Yes you have to be certifed to purchase and resell.`
`03:02.50`	`syslod`	`The process sucks.`
`03:03.07`	`syslod`	`You technially have to have 4 people. 2 techs and 2 sales.`
`03:03.07`	`PTG123`	`modulus: pm`
`03:03.08`	`Equinox`	`How annoying.`
`03:03.12`	`Moc`	`Polycom normally only sell to aproved reseller (that is partner with`
`03:03.19`	`Moc`	`polycom for a key PBX system)`
`03:03.23`	`Moc`	`but in canada it different`
`03:03.27`	`*** join/#asterisk AgiNamu (~zzzs@4.79.150.34)`
`03:03.29`	`Moc`	`but you can still get it in the US`
`03:03.43`	`Equinox`	`So if I get one of these phones I can't use it? Or they just won't sell it to me?`
`03:03.57`	`Moc`	`Equinox, if you get the phone, you can use it`
`03:04.07`	`AgiNamu`	`The PA168 / 1688 -- anyone got one of those type phones to work with IAX?`
`03:04.10`	`Equinox`	`Moc- Just making sure there isn't some sort of software auth crap`
`03:04.13`	`Moc`	`there is info on the wiki`
`03:04.26`	`in-side`	`does anybody use freebsd with asterisk here?`
`03:04.28`	`Moc`	`nah software is available form a link on the wiko`
`03:04.37`	`Equinox`	`Yeah saw that.`
`03:04.42`	`Equinox`	`Thay look like good phones.`
`03:04.49`	`Equinox`	`Especially since my GS buttons suck (grin)`
`03:05.05`	`Moc`	`Equinox, or you can ask the person who sold you the phone, they can have web access to the SIP binary too`
`03:05.28`	`syslod`	`Equinox: no activiation but you need bootrom binaries later when upgrades come out. Most sellers are providing it but ask.`
`03:05.32`	`Moc`	`the only thing missing on the polycom is .... BACKLIGHT..`
`03:05.45`	`Equinox`	`syslod- They arn't available from the urls in the wiki?`
`03:05.47`	`syslod`	`My 600's don't have a backlight.`
`03:05.49`	`Moc`	`Someone should sell modified Polycom phone with backlight`
`03:05.53`	`czero`	`MOC you dial in the dark much :)`
`03:06.03`	`Moc`	`czero, at home yes`
`03:06.07`	`Moc`	`but the office, no`
`03:06.11`	`syslod`	`:) I want a phone like the pana 7600 series. Cool indiglo backlight.`
`03:06.13`	`czero`	`:)`
`03:06.36`	`syslod`	`I am amazed at the success of how good a phone looks in selling the system:)`
`03:06.38`	`czero`	`I'd like a polycom at home even without backlight`
`03:07.07`	`Moc`	`czero, it the only reason I keep my light open when I work on the PC at home, so see my polycom phone ;)`
`03:07.13`	`Equinox`	`They have an onboard web server?`
`03:07.17`	`syslod`	`Yes`
`03:07.21`	`Moc`	`I gota get some of those small led light pointed to my phone`
`03:07.28`	`Equinox`	`The cisco 7960 config process seemed a little kludgy`
`03:07.37`	`Moc`	`a directional LCD light from the cellar on my phone, could look nice`
`03:07.51`	`Moc`	`cisco config are very limited`
`03:08.06`	`Moc`	`I was very disapointed about this`
`03:08.25`	`scubasteve`	`Has anyone tried the Sayson 390? At around $100 it looks like a lotta bang for the buck..`
`03:08.40`	`JerJer`	`moc: limited?`
`03:08.52`	`JerJer`	`configure via TFTP can u can do pretty much anything u need`
`03:09.07`	`Moc`	`JerJer, you never saw Polycom configuration file then ;)`
`03:09.10`	`Equinox`	`Sayson 390 is analog right.. no sip?`
`03:09.12`	`dan2`	`JerJer: whats your rates on outbound calls`
`03:09.18`	`syslod`	`Moc: The 600 does have lighted buttons.`
`03:09.25`	`scubasteve`	`Equinox ... looks sip.`
`03:09.33`	`Equinox`	`It says "analog"`
`03:09.35`	`Moc`	`scubasteve, nope,`
`03:09.40`	`scubasteve`	`No kiddin`
`03:10.08`	`Equinox`	`And it doesn't say "sip" :)`
`03:10.29`	`Moc`	`JerJer, check this PDF, it REALLY worth it..http://www.freedomphones.net/polycom/files/Admin_Guide-SoundPoint_IP_SIP_2004-06-16.pdf`
`03:10.39`	`scubasteve`	`Geesh.`
`03:10.56`	`Moc`	`* could need improvement to support some NICE polycom feature`
`03:11.23`	`Chuji`	`Moc : I'd like some of the ACD/queue functions in it`
`03:11.26`	`scubasteve`	`Why in the HELL would Digium say "The Sayson 390 screenphone is an ADSI phone that integrates tightly with Asterisk? PBX."`
`03:11.35`	`Moc`	`scubasteve, ADSI = analog`
`03:11.36`	`scubasteve`	`... if it's a freakin analog phone?!`
`03:11.42`	`Moc`	`* support ADSI via analog line`
`03:11.43`	`syslod`	`Moc: you can do alot with the microbrowser and AGI!!!`
`03:11.47`	`Moc`	`from a TDM card`
`03:11.47`	`*** join/#asterisk \|Vulture\| (~Vulture@247.131.vbnet.net)`
`03:11.56`	`Moc`	`syslod, I dont have the IP 600 yet..`
`03:12.04`	`\|Vulture\|`	`wow is that a new rule? Hi!`
`03:12.05`	`Moc`	`it ordered, but my reseller aint fast,`
`03:12.20`	`\|Vulture\|`	`Moc: you ordered an IP600! you got to give us a review!`
`03:12.29`	`\|Vulture\|`	`Ive only played with IP500s`
`03:12.32`	`syslod`	`I think even the 300 has the microbrowser.`
`03:12.50`	`syslod`	`The 500 has it too.`
`03:12.54`	`scubasteve`	`We have a stack of SwissVoice IP10's at work. Cheap crap.`
`03:12.56`	`Moc`	`I will, I'll put a nice comparaison chart of 7960, IP 500 and IP 600`
`03:13.06`	`\|Vulture\|`	`:)`
`03:13.17`	`Equinox`	`What is ADSI?`
`03:13.19`	`Moc`	`scubasteve, Polycom IP 500 cost 170$ US, get that instead`
`03:13.27`	`Equinox`	`Who else uses it?`
`03:13.28`	`\|Vulture\|`	`I like my 500s better than my 7960, and my 7960 has 6 lines`
`03:13.31`	`modulus_`	`jbot, adsi?`
`03:13.34`	`scubasteve`	`Moc: No kiddin! SIP? MGCP? Skinny?`
`03:13.44`	`modulus_`	`jbot, ADSI is Active Directory Service Interface`
`03:13.45`	`jbot`	`modulus_: okay`
`03:13.47`	`Moc`	`scubasteve, IP 500 is SIP h323 and MGCP i think`
`03:13.49`	`\|Vulture\|`	`SIP or H323`
`03:13.56`	`Equinox`	`modulus- Fancy.`
`03:13.59`	`modulus_`	`jbot, adsi?`
`03:14.00`	`jbot`	`it has been said that adsi is Active Directory Service Interface`
`03:14.01`	`\|Vulture\|`	`yea I duno about MGCP`
`03:14.07`	`modulus_`	`uNF uNF uNF`
`03:14.08`	`scubasteve`	`Moc: Cool.. I'll have to check it out.`
`03:14.09`	`Moc`	`there is a IP500CS too that has skinny`
`03:14.17`	`Moc`	`but SIP is what you want`
`03:14.26`	`\|Vulture\|`	`and the H323s can be flashed to become SIP`
`03:14.31`	`Moc`	`scubasteve, check : http://www.freedomphones.net/polycom/files/Admin_Guide-SoundPoint_IP_SIP_2004-06-16.pdf`
`03:14.34`	`modulus_`	`jbot, mgcp?`
`03:14.37`	`scubasteve`	`I'm hoping to convince the wife to go Asterisk at the house... Cheap and a lotta features are a good thing in a phone.`
`03:14.46`	`modulus_`	`jbot, MGCP is Media Gateway Control Protocol`
`03:14.47`	`jbot`	`okay, modulus_`
`03:14.50`	`modulus_`	`jbot, mgcp?`
`03:14.51`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, mgcp is Media Gateway Control Protocol`
`03:15.09`	`Moc`	`syslod, what did you change to get the browser to work then ?`
`03:15.21`	`Moc`	`you got a sample config I can apply on mine so I can see if it work`
`03:15.29`	`scubasteve`	`Moc: Sweet.`
`03:15.38`	`Moc`	`IP300 surly doesnt support it, but IP 500 was SUPOSED to support it`
`03:15.44`	`Moc`	`but I never got it to work,`
`03:16.34`	`Equinox`	`What kind of card do you need for Asterisk for ADSI? Will one of the normal FXS's do it?`
`03:16.34`	`scubasteve`	`bb.. gonna look over this Soundpoint link`
`03:16.37`	`syslod`	`I have a 300 in front of me. Just hacking a 600 config with microbrowser to see if it works.`
`03:16.40`	`Moc`	`JerJer, you should sell your 7970 and get 3 IP 600 instead ;)`
`03:17.00`	`\|Vulture\|`	`JerJer got a 7970 to work with *?`
`03:17.03`	`syslod`	`Yep it works. Take a look at 4.6.1.23`
`03:17.07`	`\|Vulture\|`	`H323 bridge?`
`03:17.08`	`leandro_pt`	`scubasteve, Moc: i've got one just like the 390.. except it's a sip phone.. 480i.. nice phone.. although software seems a little beta`
`03:17.15`	`Moc`	`syslod, Im 100% sure it wont work with IP300`
`03:17.47`	`Moc`	`leandro_pt, 480i did look nice, but what is the price ?`
`03:17.58`	`*** join/#asterisk voiper (~none@pcp09528686pcs.eatntn01.nj.comcast.net)`
`03:18.12`	`syslod`	`Why. I have our display working. Its kinda screwed up cause the screen is smaller but I see the idle text.`
`03:18.28`	`\|Vulture\|`	`lol when I hear 480i I think TV Display standards`
`03:18.33`	`Moc`	`hehe`
`03:18.36`	`leandro_pt`	`hum.. cheapish.. i got it for ~$200`
`03:18.50`	`leandro_pt`	`\|Vulture\|, what do u mean?`
`03:18.51`	`Moc`	`leandro_pt, at that price, Polycom is a better buy`
`03:19.04`	`syslod`	`Did you try setting mb.idleDisplay.home with a XHTML page?`
`03:19.06`	`Moc`	`the price of polycom phone, make all the others phones look like ... shit`
`03:19.16`	`*** join/#asterisk Legend (~legend@24.244.142.134)`
`03:19.17`	`leandro_pt`	`which model Polycom?`
`03:19.18`	`Moc`	`syslod, I tryed once, I'll do it`
`03:19.32`	`\|Vulture\|`	`480i/480p/740p/1080i/1080p going from SDTV to HDTV that hasn't been released`
`03:19.32`	`syslod`	`Werking here.`
`03:19.49`	`syslod`	`I'll need some changes to make it look pretty on the smaller screen but it works.`
`03:19.54`	`czero`	`moc u have a cnd based distributor for polycom`
`03:20.03`	`Moc`	`leandro_pt, IP 300 is 120$, IP 500 is 170$<--- Take this one, IP 600 is 270$ <---- or take this one, better...`
`03:20.09`	`Moc`	`czero, yes`
`03:20.10`	`\|Vulture\|`	`I think the CDNs get better deals on polycom`
`03:20.29`	`Moc`	`nah, just US reseller are just money hungry`
`03:20.38`	`Moc`	`we are Fair people over here ;)`
`03:20.39`	`czero`	`moc care 2 share a url`
`03:20.53`	`Moc`	`czero, the master reseller is .. damn forgot the name`
`03:20.59`	`\|Vulture\|`	`Moc: thats true`
`03:21.06`	`Moc`	`but i ordered mine from www.directdial.com`
`03:21.14`	`syslod`	`Moc: U should sell some polys. US is higher.`
`03:21.14`	`leandro_pt`	`Moc, does that inclue a POE box?`
`03:21.20`	`Moc`	`but they get it from someone that I forgot the name`
`03:21.29`	`syslod`	`No POE but it comes with adapter.`
`03:21.32`	`Moc`	`leandro_pt, yes, it Polycom specific PoE cable thought`
`03:21.58`	`syslod`	`The 300 and 500 aren't POE .. At least the ones I have.`
`03:22.01`	`\|Vulture\|`	`it comes with a POE type interface, but not POE from a switch, that requires a different adapter`
`03:22.02`	`leandro_pt`	`Moc, proprieatry PoE like Cisco?`
`03:22.07`	`syslod`	`My 600 autodetecs.`
`03:22.12`	`Moc`	`syslod, IP 500 have it ownmade PoE`
`03:22.25`	`Moc`	`IP 600 does PoE cisco and the real standards`
`03:22.36`	`syslod`	`You mean the DC adapter or actually cat 5 POE?`
`03:22.38`	`Moc`	`syslod, I like IP 500 PoE cable they bundle with the phone`
`03:22.44`	`\|Vulture\|`	`same here`
`03:22.53`	`syslod`	`I didn't get one of those? CDN differnet phones?`
`03:22.54`	`Moc`	`syslod, the DC 12v + the Polycom Power injector`
`03:22.56`	`Moc`	`cable`
`03:23.15`	`syslod`	`I have 6 500's and they all have a 12v round connector`
`03:23.21`	`syslod`	`Like the 300`
`03:23.26`	`syslod`	`600 has POE?`
`03:23.27`	`Moc`	`syslod, let me know of a sample config I can try on my ip 500 for XML, I would love to get it work`
`03:23.28`	`leandro_pt`	`I don't have any PoE switches.. but this PoE adapter that came with the phone is neat.. uses a standard "computer plug".. so u can use it with ups and it worldwide compatible (im in europe)`
`03:23.39`	`syslod`	`Moc: Do you have XHTML?`
`03:23.41`	`syslod`	`page?`
`03:23.46`	`Moc`	`syslod, but the IP 500 12v connector connect to the Itnernet cable`
`03:23.50`	`Moc`	`syslod, nope`
`03:23.57`	`leandro_pt`	`and the box is standard PoE.. it can feed my Asus Wifi AP too :D`
`03:24.01`	`Moc`	`so the phone has only a Cat5 Cable plug into it`
`03:24.26`	`Moc`	`and that Cat5 bring the 12volt + Network`
`03:26.27`	`czero`	`tnks MOC`
`03:26.32`	`cjk`	`anyone an idea how to use the vars i define using "SETVAR" in an agi script?`
`03:26.49`	`syslod`	`In config just add idle display in the admin guide and download some XHTML sample. It has to be very simple. There is a limit on XML tags.`
`03:26.52`	`modulus_`	`cjk, man bash`
`03:27.07`	`Moc`	`I didnt set ind.idleDisplay.enabled to 1 I think`
`03:27.13`	`Moc`	`it why it never work I'll try again`
`03:27.20`	`cjk`	`modulus_, ??? i havent even bash installed on my system, so what are you talking about?`
`03:27.21`	`leandro_pt`	`what about "mobile" phones.. what do ppl use? Wifi + Wifi Voip phones or DECT->*`
`03:27.33`	`syslod`	`Yea idle replaces normal idledisplay.`
`03:28.11`	`modulus_`	`cjk, what are you gonna write your agi script in?`
`03:28.20`	`czero`	`I think I'm gonna have to order one of these IP 600's :)`
`03:28.21`	`syslod`	`They ppl round here have the microbrowser opening doors, ordering pizza, and just about anything else you can imagine.`
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`03:28.22`	`modulus_`	`bash? perl? awk? sed? php? python?`
`03:28.34`	`Moc`	`syslod, you got a simple xhtml page, like Hello world ?`
`03:28.59`	`cjk`	`modulus_, im talking about asterisk variables? and im coding my agis in php.`
`03:29.07`	`syslod`	`I don't but let me see if I can find one. I already tried saving our sample, which I didn't do, without success.`
`03:29.36`	`Moc`	`hehe`
`03:30.07`	`Moc`	`ok idle display work`
`03:30.36`	`syslod`	`:) Wonderful isn't it.`
`03:30.37`	`syslod`	`Mine is telling me dominos is closed until 10:00pm`
`03:30.40`	`syslod`	`No pizza this late.`
`03:30.44`	`Moc`	`well didnt try the xml thing`
`03:30.49`	`rene-`	`i just got mine`
`03:31.09`	`rene-`	`wonder the inches per serving ratio`
`03:31.34`	`Moc`	`ok rebooting`
`03:31.34`	`syslod`	`We played with a DSS console but ended up building a computer version with touchscreen.`
`03:31.59`	`Moc`	`only thing I dont like about polycom is... take alittle longer to boot ;)`
`03:32.13`	`Moc`	`but it nice, it upload the boot logfile on the FTP server`
`03:32.26`	`Moc`	`if this work, I'll be very happy`
`03:32.59`	`syslod`	`It'll work.`
`03:33.17`	`Moc`	`nothing`
`03:33.30`	`Moc`	`I forgot to dump live config file to the TFTP`
`03:33.34`	`Moc`	`i mean ftp server`
`03:33.42`	`syslod`	`Ooops.`
`03:34.18`	`syslod`	`When I first got the first 300 I spent about 90% of a week reboot and 10% getting things done.`
`03:34.31`	`syslod`	`The only bad thing about the polys`
`03:34.40`	`Moc`	`yep...`
`03:34.45`	`Moc`	`but once it running, it stable`
`03:34.52`	`Moc`	`I love the CPU and Network graph too`
`03:35.05`	`Moc`	`syslod, you got the services button to work on the IP 500 ?`
`03:35.08`	`syslod`	`I would put like 10 on desk so if I screwed up I could have a slew of phones to have rebooting trying different things.`
`03:35.11`	`Moc`	`I dont know what it does but .. ;)`
`03:35.27`	`syslod`	`services can launch main browser.`
`03:35.46`	`syslod`	`Idle and mail browser are two differnet URL's and modes.`
`03:35.53`	`syslod`	`Idle has a refresh.`
`03:36.58`	`WilliamK`	`bkw, stopped asterisk but yet it's still running`
`03:36.59`	`WilliamK`	`wacky`
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`03:37.30`	`ledoktre`	`hello everyone !`
`03:37.41`	`WilliamK`	`ah, the asterisk -r proccess is locked up`
`03:37.49`	`syslod`	`kill -9`
`03:37.58`	`JonR800`	`kill it kill it!`
`03:38.59`	`WilliamK`	`no more deadness`
`03:39.55`	`AgiNamu`	`use a phoenix down.`
`03:40.13`	`ledoktre`	`does anyone have any ideas what could cause a ZAP channel to die randomly on incoming calls ?`
`03:40.28`	`in-side`	`there is a bug`
`03:40.38`	`in-side`	`about inverting polarization`
`03:41.04`	`in-side`	`http://bugs.digium.com/view_all_bug_page.php`
`03:42.05`	`leandro_pt`	`bye everyone... bedtime`
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`03:42.37`	`Moc`	`syslod, by pressing the 4 arrow, the phone will upload the current log file to the server`
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`03:43.02`	`jcollie`	`this is so cool: http://xdesktopwaves.sourceforge.net/`
`03:43.17`	`Moc`	`I got no info about why it dont work`
`03:43.28`	`Moc`	`except I got a polycom logo now heeh`
`03:44.06`	`syslod`	`Is the browser working in idle or via service button`
`03:44.10`	`Moc`	`nope`
`03:44.13`	`Moc`	`not yet..`
`03:44.19`	`syslod`	`???`
`03:44.40`	`Moc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:44.40`	`Moc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:44.50`	`Moc`	`I added this, the indicator cmd work`
`03:44.53`	`Moc`	`bu I see no idle display`
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`03:45.14`	`syslod`	`Can you check the web log to see if the phone even hit?`
`03:45.59`	`Moc`	`yes hold`
`03:46.16`	`ledoktre`	`in-side: were you talking to me about the bug & reverse polarity?`
`03:46.45`	`Moc`	`rebooting the phone and see, I added the mb.main.home too`
`03:47.43`	`Moc`	`nothing`
`03:48.08`	`syslod`	`It didn't hit?`
`03:48.12`	`Moc`	`nope`
`03:48.17`	`syslod`	`What rom do you have on the phone?`
`03:48.20`	`Moc`	`the display is blank on the phone`
`03:48.22`	`Moc`	`1.3.1`
`03:49.39`	`Moc`	`well hold`
`03:49.53`	`syslod`	`It may be something on the web server or the XML. I think we had to add something to the httpd.conf in apache to get it to work.`
`03:50.22`	`Moc`	`my bad`
`03:50.35`	`Moc`	`will try again now`
`03:50.54`	`Shido6`	`anyone watching the game?`
`03:50.58`	`Moc`	`the 2 microbrowser cfg wasnt IN <microbrowser>`
`03:51.06`	`Shido6`	`detroit vs indiana?`
`03:51.25`	`syslod`	`Ahh.`
`03:51.27`	`Moc`	`rebooting ;)`
`03:51.34`	`hermie`	`Shido6: I just drove by the Palace... does that count :-)`
`03:51.44`	`Shido6`	`you should turn on the t`
`03:51.45`	`Shido6`	`v`
`03:51.55`	`Shido6`	`team fight`
`03:52.07`	`Moc`	`syslod, didnt help`
`03:52.57`	`syslod`	`When I get back to the office I get the conf files including poly, apache, XHTML etc.`
`03:53.17`	`Moc`	`allright thanks..`
`03:55.07`	`Moc`	`rebooting again`
`03:55.39`	`Moc`	`syslod, you got the polycom sample config file from Polycom or from the wiki link �`
`03:56.57`	`hermie`	`Shido6: wow...`
`03:57.09`	`Moc`	`nope doesnt work :(`
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`03:58.56`	`cypromis`	`.window 12`
`03:59.00`	`twisted`	`hola anthm`
`03:59.12`	`anthm`	`hey`
`03:59.24`	`twisted`	`what's up`
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`03:59.57`	`syslod`	`Moc: I had some of the developers read the admin guide and play with the phones for 2 weeks. Not sure what they did but I'll find out on monday.`
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`04:00.51`	`sivana`	`anyone get a dud T100P before?`
`04:00.52`	`Moc`	`ok thanks`
`04:01.03`	`twisted`	`sivana, nope`
`04:01.12`	`sivana`	`hrm... no lights`
`04:01.15`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`so anyone here happen to have experience with engin.com.au and/or X-Ten X-Pro softphone?`
`04:01.20`	`twisted`	`hmm... sounds like the driver's not loaded`
`04:01.21`	`sivana`	`I made a loopback cable.. still no lights`
`04:01.31`	`sivana`	`it's loaded.. says that it's found in the messages`
`04:01.38`	`twisted`	`ah`
`04:01.46`	`twisted`	`does it work?`
`04:01.56`	`sivana`	`the pri show span 1 says "Provisioned, Down, Active`
`04:02.13`	`sivana`	`when I take out the loopback, it says "provisioned, in alarm, down, active"`
`04:02.23`	`twisted`	`well, there ya go`
`04:02.25`	`twisted`	`it's workin`
`04:02.34`	`sivana`	`I don't know yet... my PRI isn't completely provisioned yet`
`04:02.38`	`twisted`	`yea`
`04:02.43`	`sivana`	`but the lights don't do squat`
`04:02.58`	`sivana`	`I saw it blinking red earlier this morning.. but that's it.. not sure how long it lasted`
`04:03.10`	`twisted`	`well, heh.`
`04:03.33`	`sivana`	`so you think it's working?`
`04:03.36`	`twisted`	`red blinking == red alarm`
`04:03.44`	`sivana`	`ya, but it's not doing it now`
`04:04.01`	`sivana`	`I dunno`
`04:04.09`	`twisted`	`zttool show it alive?`
`04:04.16`	`sivana`	`let me try that`
`04:04.24`	`sivana`	`# zttool ?`
`04:04.31`	`twisted`	`zttool`
`04:04.32`	`twisted`	`yes`
`04:05.11`	`sivana`	`Alarms = OK`
`04:05.13`	`twisted`	`i can't remember if the lights ar on when it's in green alarm or not`
`04:05.17`	`twisted`	`ok`
`04:05.22`	`sivana`	`Span = digium.... blah`
`04:05.25`	`nestAr`	`htmmm..`
`04:05.34`	`nestAr`	`when i do a asterisk -V`
`04:05.39`	`twisted`	`yeh`
`04:05.40`	`nestAr`	`it doesn't give me a version number`
`04:05.45`	`twisted`	`green alarm == green led`
`04:06.14`	`sivana`	`I don't know.. maybe the LED is burnt out :)`
`04:06.26`	`twisted`	`sivana, possibly... dunno`
`04:06.33`	`sivana`	`or something's wierd... with the loopback.. it should be green I would think`
`04:06.35`	`twisted`	`tried restarting the box? (just out of curiosity)`
`04:06.40`	`sivana`	`ya`
`04:06.42`	`ledoktre`	`Anyone heard of a zap channel dropping an incoming call randomly? (anywhere from 3m to 20m?). Someone posted right after me about a patch & reverse polarity, but didnt mention if it was directed to me or not.. Trying to find out why calls I receive randomly get hungup :-(`
`04:07.04`	`twisted`	`ledoktre, try turning callprogress=no`
`04:07.32`	`sivana`	`I'll wait to see if anything changes once the PRI is ready`
`04:07.37`	`twisted`	`sivana, ok`
`04:07.42`	`sivana`	`it has a red alarm too :)`
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`04:09.36`	`brettnem`	`good evening all`
`04:11.10`	`ledoktre`	`twisted: Is callprogress on by default by any chance? its not a directive listed in my zapata.conf file`
`04:11.55`	`twisted`	`odd`
`04:11.57`	`twisted`	`it's in mine.`
`04:11.59`	`twisted`	`; On trunk interfaces (FXS) it can be useful to attempt to follow the progress`
`04:11.59`	`twisted`	`; of a call through RINGING, BUSY, and ANSWERING. If turned on, call`
`04:11.59`	`twisted`	`; progress attempts to determine answer, busy, and ringing on phone lines.`
`04:11.59`	`twisted`	`; This feature is HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL and can easily detect false answers,`
`04:12.00`	`twisted`	`; so don't count on it being very accurate. Also, it is ONLY configured for`
`04:12.02`	`twisted`	`; standard U.S. tones`
`04:12.04`	`twisted`	`;`
`04:12.06`	`*** kick/#asterisk [twisted!~twisted@twisted.active.supporter.pdpc] by twisted (flood)`
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`04:13.06`	`ledoktre`	`twisted: seems like Ive seen that b4, when I was reading about busydetect.`
`04:13.13`	`ledoktre`	`now that you list that`
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`04:14.29`	`Moc`	`ha damn nice..`
`04:14.38`	`Moc`	`Polycom have a Audio testing feature on the phone`
`04:14.40`	`twisted`	`ledoktre, in the newer config files`
`04:14.41`	`twisted`	`This feature can also easily detect false hangups. The symptoms of this`
`04:14.41`	`twisted`	`; is being disconnected in the middle of a call for no reason.`
`04:14.44`	`twisted`	`that's also under it.`
`04:14.56`	`Moc`	`You record yourself, for a few sec, and play it back, on the phone directly`
`04:15.04`	`twisted`	`blitzrage, !!!`
`04:15.08`	`Moc`	`no need to configure an extention`
`04:15.37`	`Moc`	`anyway, gota go`
`04:16.45`	`brettnem`	`file[laptop]: you around?`
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`04:18.10`	`brettnem`	`moo`
`04:19.30`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`so anyone here happen to have experience with the engin.com.au service and/or X-Ten X-Pro softphone?`
`04:20.51`	`*** join/#asterisk JerJer (~mine@d2-236.rt-bras.che.centurytel.net)`
`04:21.12`	`JerJer`	`hi`
`04:21.25`	`JerJer`	`why do people suck?`
`04:21.55`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`what type of question is that JerJer`
`04:22.05`	`redder86`	`any recommendations on a DVD player (home theater) to get my wife for her birthday. Our old one really sucks with "dirty" DVDs and won't play burned DVDs.`
`04:22.10`	`JerJer`	`just following the topic`
`04:22.31`	`redder86`	`yellow_fuzzy: I sometimes use Xten.`
`04:22.37`	`Qwell`	`JerJer: I don't think it implies that you must ask a question after saying "Hi." :p`
`04:23.19`	`redder86`	`JerJer: people just suck. like the sky is just blue.`
`04:23.26`	`JerJer`	`rightio`
`04:23.55`	`redder86`	`anyone have a component DVD player?`
`04:24.04`	`redder86`	`everyone here use DVD roms on their PCs?`
`04:24.13`	`PTG123`	`i do redder why do you ask`
`04:24.18`	`Shido6`	`yesh...`
`04:24.30`	`redder86`	`looking at a Sony... wonder if it sucks or not.`
`04:24.57`	`PTG123`	`don't buy a sony`
`04:24.58`	`PTG123`	`i have 4 of them`
`04:25.00`	`JerJer`	`build your own dvd and pvr`
`04:25.02`	`PTG123`	`they all have the same problems`
`04:25.12`	`PTG123`	`towards the end of a movie, it skips, jumps, exits etc`
`04:25.12`	`JerJer`	`your wife will love you when you are done`
`04:25.13`	`redder86`	`PTG123: what's that?`
`04:25.22`	`redder86`	`JerJer: PVR?`
`04:25.23`	`PTG123`	`i will never buy another sony dvd player again`
`04:25.24`	`JerJer`	`or she will be gone, which might be better`
`04:25.26`	`JerJer`	`:)`
`04:25.37`	`JerJer`	`Personal Video Recorder`
`04:25.44`	`PTG123`	`i literally have 4 of the best sonies, and they all ahve the same problem`
`04:25.47`	`redder86`	`JerJer: I want to keep my wife around :-)`
`04:25.49`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`my VOIP provider only provides a cutomised version of Xten X-Pro and wont provide me with the SIP details so that i can set it up with asterick`
`04:25.56`	`redder86`	`PTG123: what's the problem?`
`04:26.02`	`JerJer`	`yellow_fuzzy: fire your provider then`
`04:26.03`	`PTG123`	`the best quality i have out of all my stuff, is i made a little pc with svideo out running windvd`
`04:26.15`	`PTG123`	`redder: the moviue skips, jumps, etc at the end of the movies sometimes`
`04:26.37`	`redder86`	`yellow_fuzzy: earthlink?`
`04:26.53`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`nah engin.com.au in australia`
`04:27.07`	`redder86`	`PTG123: I don't think that she'll be okay with a little pc running windvd`
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`04:27.34`	`PTG123`	`reder: my wife uses mine fine :)`
`04:27.43`	`Sedorox`	`Hola's! ( I speak english.. just like hola for hello) :-P`
`04:27.44`	`redder86`	`PTG123: we don't have the same wife`
`04:27.45`	`PTG123`	`redder: she has no problems with it, you can have the remote etc`
`04:27.52`	`PTG123`	`she doesn't even need the to know its a pc`
`04:28.00`	`PTG123`	`buy the ati wonder remote`
`04:28.07`	`PTG123`	`and leave winddvd running all the time`
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`04:28.12`	`PTG123`	`she will never know the difference :)`
`04:28.17`	`redder86`	`PTG123: the closest PC is in the other room.`
`04:28.25`	`PTG123`	`i made one just for me tv :)`
`04:28.35`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`does asterisk have any support for proxy's like Xten X-Pro does`
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`04:28.48`	`PTG123`	`its a cute little thing`
`04:29.22`	`redder86`	`PTG123: the drive and the ATI card would be more than I want to spend... not counting the little cute PC`
`04:29.32`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`really the only info i have is all the stuff in the X-Pro diagnostic log`
`04:29.36`	`Sedorox`	`anyone ever work with Broadmedia VOIP Phones? Specificly the CVX model?`
`04:29.45`	`redder86`	`PTG123: only ever tried Sonys, or have you tried other component DVDs?`
`04:29.57`	`PTG123`	`redder: i have tried a few, i think my pioneer works well`
`04:29.58`	`sivana`	`anyone else having registration issues with Broadvoice?`
`04:30.04`	`redder86`	`PTG123: I have a Pioneer now, and I haven't been too impressed, but it is very old.`
`04:30.06`	`PTG123`	`i have 7 or 8 tvs in my house :)`
`04:30.11`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`unless someone knows where X-Pro stores all its SIP proxy & network details`
`04:30.12`	`PTG123`	`well this is a new slim one`
`04:30.16`	`PTG123`	`one of the tiny ones`
`04:30.49`	`PTG123`	`is this for a theater, or just a normal tv?`
`04:30.57`	`redder86`	`PTG123: I have 7 PCs in the house. Just one TV.`
`04:31.03`	`PTG123`	`hah`
`04:31.04`	`redder86`	`PTG123: theater`
`04:31.11`	`PTG123`	`do the pc route`
`04:31.13`	`redder86`	`PTG123: we only really use it for movies`
`04:31.16`	`PTG123`	`i think i spent $400 total`
`04:31.24`	`PTG123`	`the auto quality is way better then any dvd player i have used`
`04:31.26`	`PTG123`	`so is the video`
`04:31.59`	`redder86`	`PTG123: you just run the audio and s-video out to your receiver from the all-in-wonder?`
`04:32.01`	`PTG123`	`i use fiberoptic output for audio`
`04:32.09`	`PTG123`	`well the video card is built into the HPC`
`04:32.17`	`PTG123`	`the remote is extra (like 30 bucks)`
`04:32.21`	`PTG123`	`the ati is a remote not a video card`
`04:32.27`	`PTG123`	`it uses an nvidia video card`
`04:32.29`	`PTG123`	`let me find you a link`
`04:32.57`	`redder86`	`PTG123: still, I think it's over my desired monetary limit for a gift`
`04:32.58`	`PTG123`	`http://www.msicomputer.com/pressrelease/MEGAPC.asp`
`04:33.10`	`PTG123`	`heh but isn't it a gift for yourself too? :)`
`04:33.26`	`PTG123`	`how much you looking to spend, and you don't have an old amd cpu or some memory lying around?`
`04:33.33`	`redder86`	`she watches movies, I sit here on IRC and goof around on a computer`
`04:33.52`	`PTG123`	`heh`
`04:33.52`	`redder86`	`i've got lots of spare computers, that's not the problem.`
`04:34.05`	`PTG123`	`well then it probably will cost you about $200`
`04:34.15`	`redder86`	`I do watch LotR and Star Wars, though`
`04:34.45`	`redder86`	`I think I wouldn't spend any more than $150 on this. I bought her a $500 digital camera last year, I don't want to even come near that close this year.`
`04:34.57`	`Sedorox`	`no one on the broadmedia stuff?`
`04:35.01`	`PTG123`	`heh your wife is a lucky women ;)`
`04:35.54`	`redder86`	`I'm a lucky guy. She likes me being a computer geek.`
`04:36.00`	`PTG123`	`heh`
`04:36.21`	`redder86`	`Sony DVD Player (DV-PNS425P) would suck you think?`
`04:36.48`	`PTG123`	`got a link?`
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`04:37.06`	`redder86`	`http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Sony-DVD-Player--DV-PNS425P-/sem/rpsm/oid/78347/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do`
`04:37.28`	`PTG123`	`thats the one i have in my bedroom`
`04:37.31`	`PTG123`	`and yes same problem with it`
`04:37.39`	`redder86`	`:-(`
`04:37.40`	`PTG123`	`its cute though`
`04:37.41`	`PTG123`	`:)`
`04:37.45`	`PTG123`	`which is why i bought it`
`04:37.52`	`PTG123`	`i am telling you ever sony i have ever owned, same problem`
`04:38.01`	`PTG123`	`i got like that $1200 integrated dvd changer/stereo one too`
`04:38.03`	`PTG123`	`same problem`
`04:38.09`	`PTG123`	`and my other two sonies i have, same problem`
`04:38.10`	`redder86`	`ugh`
`04:38.11`	`PTG123`	`itsd a sony thing`
`04:38.16`	`PTG123`	`i am not sure if heat causes it or what`
`04:38.25`	`PTG123`	`but it always does it towards end of movie`
`04:38.41`	`redder86`	`well, I've a JVC receiver, a sony tape deck (remember those things?), and a Pioneer DVD. My Sony CD changer died a few years ago.`
`04:38.47`	`PTG123`	`the cheap ones seem to work better`
`04:38.51`	`redder86`	`really?`
`04:38.57`	`PTG123`	`yah`
`04:38.59`	`PTG123`	`i got a RAITE`
`04:39.02`	`PTG123`	`never had a problem`
`04:39.06`	`PTG123`	`think i paid $50 for it`
`04:39.07`	`redder86`	`RAITE?`
`04:39.13`	`PTG123`	`i bought my dad a $40 dvd player, never had a problem`
`04:39.22`	`redder86`	`interesting`
`04:39.28`	`PTG123`	`http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsung-DVD-Player--DVD-P341-/sem/rpsm/oid/90015/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do`
`04:39.31`	`PTG123`	`that would probably be a good one`
`04:39.34`	`PTG123`	`higher reviews then the sony`
`04:40.12`	`PTG123`	`http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Panasonic-DVD-Changer--DVD-F87S-/sem/rpsm/oid/89147/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do`
`04:40.14`	`PTG123`	`dvd changer there`
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`04:40.20`	`PTG123`	`lower reviews though`
`04:40.48`	`Nugget`	`I don't understand the appeal of dvd changers.`
`04:40.51`	`redder86`	`changer would be nice, but really not needed... she'll never sit down and watch 5 movies at once.`
`04:41.12`	`czero`	`I want the 400 dick dvd changer`
`04:41.18`	`czero`	`disk`
`04:41.24`	`PTG123`	`dvd changer would be good for kids, if you don't want them swamping their own movies`
`04:41.24`	`czero`	`so`
`04:41.30`	`Nugget`	`PTG123: yeah, I can see that`
`04:41.31`	`czero`	`I can load all my DVDs and be done iwht it`
`04:41.32`	`PTG123`	`my kids destory my movies`
`04:41.33`	`redder86`	`Nugget: some people use their DVD changers as CD changers. CD changers are useful. But MP3 players are just nicer.`
`04:41.46`	`Shido6`	`vlc video lan`
`04:41.50`	`Nugget`	`redder86: yeah. cd changers are a relic now.`
`04:41.52`	`PTG123`	`well how about a dvd changer that places mp3s, so you have 5 cds of mp3s :)`
`04:41.55`	`Shido6`	`play your movies in tar.gz format`
`04:42.20`	`PTG123`	`http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsung-DVD-Player--DVD-P341-/sem/rpsm/oid/90015/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do`
`04:42.23`	`PTG123`	`that one looks best to me`
`04:42.24`	`PTG123`	`:)`
`04:42.29`	`Nugget`	`I've just never found it inconvenient keeping my DVDs in their cases on a shelf. I don't watch any one of them often enough to warrant having it right there on hand.`
`04:42.33`	`PTG123`	`plays mp3s etc`
`04:42.35`	`PTG123`	`has a memory slot`
`04:42.44`	`Nugget`	`when I'm in the mood for a movie it's not a problem to get it and pop it into the player.`
`04:43.00`	`PTG123`	`well what if you want to watch the 3 LORs at once :)`
`04:43.05`	`Nugget`	`and yeah, iTunes is way more useful than any cd changer I've ever owned.`
`04:43.12`	`PTG123`	`or the 5 star wars :)`
`04:43.25`	`redder86`	`PTG123: ever used a Samsung before?`
`04:43.35`	`PTG123`	`but thats why i made my theater have a pc instead of a dvd, music changing via winamp, tv recording, and plays awesome dvds`
`04:43.51`	`PTG123`	`redder: yah i like samsing, i have alot of samsung electronics, they use to be sh itty, but now they make good stuff`
`04:43.52`	`czero`	`I've got 300 dvd takes alot of space in my condo`
`04:43.56`	`redder86`	`PTG123: 3 LORs at once in the extended set... what is that 6 disks?`
`04:44.02`	`PTG123`	`czero: i have around 700 :)`
`04:44.17`	`PTG123`	`redder: not sure, but there is the reason to have a changer :)`
`04:44.18`	`czero`	`take alot of space then too`
`04:44.30`	`Nugget`	`I don't think that there are 700 movies in existence that I'd want to own. usually a movie I watch once and I'm done with it.`
`04:44.35`	`PTG123`	`yah i actually went through and sold 200 of them b/c i had no space, 8 shelves 2 or 3 layters deep :)`
`04:44.37`	`Nugget`	`it's the rare film I'd want to own and watch again`
`04:44.54`	`PTG123`	`well i figure buying them at $14 is cheaper then the late fees i aincur`
`04:45.03`	`Moc`	`I got about 200 + ST TNG S1 to S7 and ST DS9 S1 to S7 and SG-1 S1 to S6`
`04:45.07`	`Nugget`	`yeah. I'm bad about the late fees too.`
`04:45.09`	`PTG123`	`so consequently i have bought every movie that has come out since dvds were invented (new release)`
`04:45.38`	`Alric`	`mhmmm... SG-1`
`04:45.52`	`nestAr`	`lol`
`04:45.52`	`Moc`	`sg1 on dvd are nice ,they are widescreen`
`04:45.54`	`redder86`	`my wife buys movies pre-viewed from Hollywood Video for like $5-8 each... we only usually watch them once, but it's cheaper than paying for cable TV and cheaper than going to the movies`
`04:45.59`	`PTG123`	`http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/90015/originURLEncoded/http%253A%252F%252Fwww.circuitcity.com%252Fccd%252Fcategory.do%253FcatOid%253D-12948%2526N%253D20012898%252B20012948%2526c%253D1/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do#tabs`
`04:46.07`	`Nugget`	`yeah, I drop about $100/month on cable.`
`04:46.08`	`PTG123`	`people bagging sony in the samsung reviews :)`
`04:46.09`	`Alric`	`I have every episode of SG-1 that has aired, in one form or another.`
`04:46.13`	`Nugget`	`well, satellite.`
`04:46.17`	`Nugget`	`same thing, really. :)`
`04:46.28`	`Nugget`	`that would buy a few DVDs at $8 each`
`04:46.38`	`Moc`	`Im a bad TV user`
`04:46.39`	`redder86`	`my wife is an SG-1 fanatic`
`04:46.41`	`czero`	`PTG123 do you rip your DVDs to the PC or put then in when u want to watch one?`
`04:46.49`	`Moc`	`SG-1 is a very nice show`
`04:46.59`	`Alric`	`redder86: My girlfriend got me interested... how weird is that?`
`04:46.59`	`PTG123`	`czero: put them in when i want them.. they take too much disk space on the pc`
`04:47.00`	`redder86`	`I'll be getting her one of the seasons on DVD for Christmas.`
`04:47.02`	`PTG123`	`tried that for a while :)`
`04:47.10`	`redder86`	`what season was the best Alric?`
`04:47.19`	`Moc`	`S5 and S6 was nice`
`04:47.23`	`Nugget`	`the disk space isn't worth the 45 seconds you save yourself.`
`04:47.23`	`Alric`	`redder86: 6 or 7.`
`04:47.27`	`PTG123`	`redder: i'll sell you one, i got one in shrink wrap.. my wife bought me one i already had :)`
`04:47.27`	`czero`	`I'd rip everyhting to Disk if I found a fast way to do them all and a nice GUI to search play form`
`04:47.35`	`redder86`	`PTG123: really?`
`04:47.39`	`PTG123`	`yah`
`04:47.43`	`redder86`	`which season?`
`04:47.46`	`PTG123`	`hold i'll tell you which one it is`
`04:47.48`	`Moc`	`czero, dvdshrink to rip`
`04:47.59`	`Moc`	`but you will need alot of gigs`
`04:48.05`	`czero`	`disk is cheep :)`
`04:48.07`	`Moc`	`even my 1TB can't store everything`
`04:48.11`	`Nugget`	`disk isn't that cheap.`
`04:48.24`	`czero`	`less then a buck a Gigs`
`04:48.27`	`czero`	`thats cheep`
`04:48.29`	`czero`	`I'm old`
`04:48.41`	`Nugget`	`at a bick a gig and 5 gig per movie, that's adding 60% to the cost.`
`04:48.44`	`czero`	`I remeber 40G disks being 100's of $ and ram being 90$ a meg :)`
`04:48.45`	`Nugget`	`s/bick/buck/`
`04:48.46`	`Moc`	`+ a damn Raid card`
`04:49.20`	`Nugget`	`you're paying $5 to store a duplicate of the DVD you paid $5-$8 for.`
`04:49.24`	`Moc`	`74$ CND a 120gig HD`
`04:49.30`	`Moc`	`and you have 20$ mailing rebate`
`04:49.33`	`robl^`	`I remember 5MB (not GB) HDs costing $300+`
`04:49.50`	`Nugget`	`I paid $800 for my first floppy drive.`
`04:50.03`	`Nugget`	`and I'm sure there's a guy in here who remembers when they had to bang rocks together to get 1s`
`04:50.11`	`Nugget`	`you'll never win that DSW.`
`04:51.07`	`robl^`	`I remember loading games into my Atari 400 from a casette drive. 18 mins to load Zaxxon`
`04:51.14`	`czero`	`:)`
`04:51.19`	`Nugget`	`heh. that disk drive was an atari 810. :)`
`04:51.33`	`PTG123`	`redder: season 2, i'll throw in my season 4 set too, used once ;)`
`04:51.35`	`Moc`	`naming the game Z would have save you 8 min of load time`
`04:51.38`	`robl^`	`ohh I have an 810 sitting under my bed right now :)`
`04:51.41`	`blitzrage`	`twisted: !!!`
`04:51.57`	`Nugget`	`I've got a 130XE and an Indus GT here but I hardly ever plug them up.`
`04:52.26`	`czero`	`I've gotten ird of all my old hardware when I moved back to canada form the US, spent too much $ movie useless hardware over the yrs`
`04:52.35`	`Moc`	`I dont know why people still buy Maxtor HD ..`
`04:52.38`	`czero`	`s/movie/moving`
`04:52.52`	`bkw_`	`who has the asterisk config highlight syntax thingy for emacs?`
`04:53.13`	`robl^`	`Nugget: I had the weird RAM module for an Indus GT that was used as 64KB cache.. or you could boot CP/M 2.2 on the drive. and the atari became a terminal :)`
`04:53.25`	`Nugget`	`heh`
`04:53.57`	`robl^`	`but.. I am just weird.. :)`
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`04:56.44`	`Renuzit`	`:D`
`04:58.06`	`kram`	`hey nuzit`
`04:58.54`	`Nugget`	`1.5T is $2000 or so and what's it buy you? it saves you 45 seconds of work each time you watch a movie.`
`04:58.59`	`Nugget`	`I'm not seeing the benefit.`
`04:59.16`	`Nugget`	`sink $2k into better speakers and you'll get a lot more bang for your buck. :)`
`04:59.24`	`czero`	`casue there is no room in my livng rom for the DVDs`
`04:59.37`	`czero`	`i've got good speakers already B&W's :)`
`04:59.50`	`Nugget`	`so put the DVDs into sleeves and three ring binders.`
`04:59.52`	`ZX81`	`also, you can then stream it to multiple rooms`
`04:59.54`	`czero`	`I have though about getting the SONY 400 DISK mega changer`
`05:00.01`	`ZX81`	`I stream movies across my house`
`05:00.21`	`czero`	`wife won;t let me toss the cases, did that with my CD collection and I've not hear the end of it`
`05:00.26`	`Nugget`	`heh`
`05:00.27`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`05:00.29`	`ZX81`	`yah`
`05:00.30`	`ZX81`	`lol`
`05:00.33`	`Nugget`	`all my CDs are in the attic. :)`
`05:00.49`	`Moc`	`1.5 TB is 1200$ CND`
`05:00.50`	`czero`	`I've got 5 big binbder full :)`
`05:00.57`	`Nugget`	`Moc: with the raid card?`
`05:01.05`	`Moc`	`Nugget, yes`
`05:01.08`	`Nugget`	`spiffy.`
`05:01.15`	`czero`	`I've got hardware raid built into my MB`
`05:01.23`	`Moc`	`but I took the cheapess HD I found ;)`
`05:01.27`	`Nugget`	`czero: probably not raid5 and almost assuredly not good raid.`
`05:01.42`	`Nugget`	`if it is raid5 then it's just software raid in the driver, I'll bet.`
`05:01.43`	`czero`	`Nugget you rprobaly right :)`
`05:01.52`	`czero`	`I'd have to check the book`
`05:01.55`	`Nugget`	`you pretty much need 3ware or adaptec if you want to really do it.`
`05:01.56`	`Moc`	`alot of mobo offer raid, it so common now`
`05:01.58`	`czero`	`can;t remember now`
`05:02.05`	`Moc`	`my father have Raid 5 !!`
`05:02.10`	`Nugget`	`the motherboard raid chipsets all blow goats.`
`05:02.32`	`Nugget`	`although they'll save you from data loss you shouldn't rely on them to keep the box up when it happens`
`05:02.33`	`czero`	`I've also got GigE on this MB :)`
`05:02.37`	`Moc`	`I currently have 3x36gig 10kRPM HD, + 5x250gig 7200rpm HD on a http://www.broadcom.com/products/product.php?product_id=BC4852`
`05:02.40`	`robl^`	`most mobo RAIDS are just IDE or SATA controllers.. and rest is done in software`
`05:02.50`	`Nugget`	`robl^: yeah, exactly`
`05:03.40`	`Moc`	`1700$ CND for a nice 1.5TB Raid5`
`05:03.40`	`czero`	`MOC thats a sweet looking controller`
`05:03.48`	`Moc`	`czero, it amazingly fas`
`05:03.49`	`Moc`	`t`
`05:03.50`	`Nugget`	`I'm a big fan of the 3ware stuff. it's cheap, fast, reliable and has fantastic drivers for linux and freebsd.`
`05:04.01`	`robl^`	`yeah`
`05:04.03`	`Moc`	`you can stack up to 4 card, and it act like 1 BIG controller`
`05:04.12`	`robl^`	`3ware is very well supported`
`05:04.20`	`Moc`	`so you can have spare on other device`
`05:04.35`	`Moc`	`3ware yea, I only wish broadcom release the linux driver source code`
`05:04.46`	`czero`	`Mmmmmmmmmmmm 32 disks in one machine`
`05:04.52`	`robl^`	`broadcom is evil`
`05:05.11`	`Moc`	`well they bought the best SATA card on the market`
`05:05.19`	`Moc`	`czero nice isnt it ? ;)`
`05:05.23`	`czero`	`very!`
`05:05.31`	`Nugget`	`our d.net stats box is 6x250gb raid with a 3ware controller.`
`05:05.33`	`Nugget`	`it screams`
`05:05.33`	`Moc`	`32disk x 400gig`
`05:05.39`	`Moc`	`=12.8TB`
`05:05.43`	`file[laptop]`	`oh god mmm`
`05:06.00`	`Moc`	`ok let say 12tb for the raid5`
`05:06.04`	`robl^`	`size queens!!`
`05:06.08`	`Nugget`	`heh`
`05:06.09`	`czero`	`:)`
`05:06.12`	`Moc`	`and the SPEED you get from those baby ..`
`05:06.16`	`Nugget`	`next we can all compare uptimes! ;)`
`05:06.25`	`Moc`	`each card you add, it multiply the speed ;)`
`05:07.28`	`PTG123`	`anyone know of a good source for bulk DIDs accross the US?`
`05:11.21`	`czero`	`g;nite all`
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`05:12.46`	`implicit`	`hi`
`05:13.47`	`Moc`	`emailed broadcom to get the driver source code`
`05:14.02`	`Moc`	`PTG123, www.broadvox.net`
`05:14.33`	`PTG123`	`moc: how cheap are they in bulk, any ideas?`
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`05:23.10`	`implicit`	`PTG123: probably not too cheap`
`05:23.14`	`implicit`	`PTG123: they don't have a lot of minutes`
`05:23.26`	`implicit`	`they are only terminating about 1.5 billion a year`
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`05:26.31`	`implicit`	`that is just over 3xOC3's of tdm`
`05:26.55`	`PTG123`	`they don't have enough locations, know of an yone else?`
`05:27.15`	`PTG123`	`looks like 10 states`
`05:27.34`	`implicit`	`how much traffic are you pushing?`
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`05:32.27`	`serdiehard`	`how to use the pstn gateway with the asteris`
`05:32.37`	`implicit`	`:)`
`05:32.42`	`implicit`	`what type of 'pstn gateway'`
`05:32.50`	`serdiehard`	`cisco`
`05:32.56`	`serdiehard`	`gateway`
`05:33.20`	`serdiehard`	`where i want to forward all calls starting with the particular number to that gateway`
`05:33.26`	`implicit`	`oh`
`05:34.10`	`Moc`	`anyone bought from buy.com ?`
`05:34.32`	`bkw_`	`hahhahahahhaha`
`05:34.40`	`bkw_`	`http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2404708`
`05:34.45`	`bkw_`	`www.bkw.org/seegaypeople.wav`
`05:34.47`	`bkw_`	`see`
`05:35.21`	`BoRiS`	`:)`
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`05:35.50`	`Moc`	`or newegg.com ?`
`05:41.33`	`JonR800`	`buy.com and newegg are both great.`
`05:41.42`	`JonR800`	`always get my packages early`
`05:42.48`	`Nugget`	`newegg is good but they can be a royal pain if you need to return somethin`
`05:47.15`	`Moc`	`great thanks`
`05:49.07`	`Moc`	`damn both no canadian shippment`
`05:50.00`	`Moc`	`ha found a canadian reseller finally`
`05:51.59`	`BoRiS`	`who?`
`05:52.08`	`implicit`	`nice`
`05:52.10`	`Moc`	`insight.ca`
`05:52.35`	`Moc`	`I was looking for 3ware card hehe`
`05:52.42`	`Moc`	`800$ ouch`
`05:52.55`	`Moc`	`well more 1000$ ouch hehe + tax ... big ouch`
`05:53.05`	`JonR800`	`ebay`
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`05:53.24`	`implicit`	`what kind of 3ware card?`
`05:53.44`	`implicit`	`JonR800: we all wish`
`05:54.04`	`Moc`	`9500S-12`
`05:54.26`	`implicit`	`nice card`
`05:54.58`	`JonR800`	`$858 canadian on ebay :-\`
`05:55.19`	`Moc`	`JonR800, insight website price are always VERY HIGH..`
`05:55.24`	`JonR800`	`that's with the battery backup for it.`
`05:55.24`	`B4`	`3ware is cool :) I wish I had one :)`
`05:55.30`	`Moc`	`I might get it cheaper from the reseller...`
`05:55.32`	`JonR800`	`yeah`
`05:55.35`	`Moc`	`ha nice`
`05:55.49`	`Moc`	`insight buy from ingrammicro`
`05:55.55`	`Moc`	`but I dont have personally access to it`
`05:55.57`	`implicit`	`if you really want fast get some of those 3.2GB solid state hard drives and put them in raid0`
`05:56.08`	`implicit`	`0.05ms seek times kick all of our asses`
`05:56.12`	`implicit`	`hehe`
`05:56.30`	`Moc`	`my current 1TB array is fast ennuf heeh`
`05:56.40`	`Moc`	`I just wish to have a good Linux Raid card..`
`05:56.57`	`Moc`	`Im getting tired of those fucking Promise card I always buy`
`05:56.59`	`implicit`	`Moc: 5-10ms seek times are 2 orders of magnitude worse than .05ms`
`05:57.15`	`B4`	`promise not good :(`
`05:57.16`	`implicit`	`Moc: its not fast enough until it reaches physical limits`
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`05:57.33`	`implicit`	`B4: thats why he got 3ware cause 3ware IS good ;)`
`05:57.47`	`B4`	`yep 3ware is cool :) heh`
`05:57.51`	`Moc`	`I got Raidcore for windows`
`05:57.58`	`implicit`	`Moc??? windows?`
`05:58.03`	`Moc`	`but they dont give source, so I'll probably go with raidcore`
`05:58.04`	`implicit`	`wtf are you thinking? (no offense)`
`05:58.08`	`B4`	`windowssss? yuk!`
`05:58.10`	`Moc`	`implicit, my 1TB array is on windows`
`05:58.20`	`implicit`	`Moc: wtf?!?!`
`05:58.29`	`implicit`	`Moc: i am soo happy i don't run windows`
`05:58.30`	`Moc`	`well actually linux kernel panic when file larger than 4 gig is transfered via samba`
`05:58.36`	`implicit`	`Moc: it screwes with your mind`
`05:58.48`	`implicit`	`Moc: what kernel?`
`05:58.53`	`Moc`	`2.4`
`05:58.55`	`Moc`	`and 2.6`
`05:59.01`	`implicit`	`which versions`
`05:59.08`	`implicit`	`of 2.6`
`05:59.11`	`Moc`	`well wait, 2.6 panic, 2.4 just fail the transfer`
`05:59.17`	`Moc`	`2.6.4`
`05:59.21`	`implicit`	`hm, weird`
`05:59.23`	`B4`	`hmmm Moc I never reached the 4Gig limit on my files so no idea`
`05:59.29`	`implicit`	`i dont know why you even use samba`
`05:59.30`	`Moc`	`I didnt ever tryed again since then..`
`05:59.32`	`implicit`	`but that stil shouldnt happen`
`05:59.43`	`implicit`	`(samba is shitty)`
`05:59.44`	`Moc`	`implicit, using adobe premiere`
`05:59.52`	`implicit`	`Moc???? adobe???`
`05:59.57`	`implicit`	`wtf man i liked you`
`06:00.04`	`implicit`	`you are becoming devilish in like 10 min only`
`06:00.10`	`implicit`	`lol`
`06:00.11`	`Moc`	`hey find be a linux software, I'll try it out`
`06:00.34`	`Moc`	`I saw one once, but look like there is a university course just to install it`
`06:00.51`	`implicit`	`what was it called?`
`06:00.58`	`implicit`	`university courses are not so bad Moc`
`06:01.03`	`Moc`	`I dont recall, it used by the movie industry`
`06:01.13`	`implicit`	`then drop adobe, shit`
`06:01.24`	`implicit`	`Moc, when do you want me to come to canada?`
`06:01.26`	`Moc`	`well adobe work perfectly`
`06:01.41`	`implicit`	`Moc, only if you like viruses`
`06:01.43`	`Moc`	`im not sure anymore ;)`
`06:01.59`	`implicit`	`Moc, it makes you keep a virus on your computer just to run it`
`06:02.31`	`implicit`	`a virus that limits the usability of your machine`
`06:02.35`	`implicit`	`compromises system resources`
`06:02.57`	`implicit`	`results in crashing and a slow computer and makes way for many other viruses and spywares to be put on your computer`
`06:03.02`	`Moc`	`implicit, for the moment, I can only use Linux as server`
`06:03.07`	`implicit`	`this virus is called windows`
`06:03.18`	`implicit`	`for the moment i can only use linux for everything`
`06:03.18`	`Moc`	`It will take me year to move to a linux desktop`
`06:03.25`	`implicit`	`otherwise i would have to commit suicide`
`06:03.31`	`implicit`	`and take gates with me`
`06:04.54`	`Moc`	`here are the list of my open app`
`06:05.17`	`BoRiS`	`Another mail man situation.... Start to go crazy and begin to shoot people?`
`06:05.45`	`nem`	`implicit: just out of curiocity what distro do you use?`
`06:05.50`	`implicit`	`nem: gentoo`
`06:05.55`	`Moc`	`Ping,Adobe Photoshop,Explorer,mIRC,msn,Calculator,Thunderbird,putty,winamp,notepad,winscp,vlc,vmware virtual machine console,firefox,adobe acrobet`
`06:06.01`	`implicit`	`ping??`
`06:06.15`	`nem`	`nice`
`06:06.19`	`nestAr`	`PING`
`06:06.21`	`Moc`	`yea, it seem Im runing a ping rightnow`
`06:06.21`	`implicit`	`lol`
`06:06.32`	`nem`	`seems alot more people are heading twards gentoo`
`06:06.46`	`Moc`	`gentoo lost ennuf hours of my life ...`
`06:07.00`	`implicit`	`ping, acrobat, firefox, vmware, notepad, winamp, putty, thunderbird are all on linux or have equivelants`
`06:07.34`	`Moc`	`photoshop = gimp (I never got to like gimp :(`
`06:07.41`	`implicit`	`Moc i agree`
`06:07.49`	`nem`	`moc: whats not to like about the gimp?`
`06:07.53`	`nestAr`	`gimp sucks compared to PS`
`06:07.53`	`implicit`	`Moc: gimp is definitely not as feature filled`
`06:07.56`	`implicit`	`yeah`
`06:08.04`	`nem`	`aww`
`06:08.06`	`Moc`	`gimp is powerfull, but never got to stand the darn interface`
`06:08.08`	`nem`	`he tries though`
`06:08.27`	`Moc`	`x chat wasnt that bad`
`06:08.33`	`implicit`	`bitchx is good too`
`06:08.42`	`nem`	`use epic`
`06:08.55`	`nestAr`	`irssi`
`06:08.58`	`nestAr`	`Irssi 0.8.4 (20020313) - http://irssi.org/`
`06:09.03`	`implicit`	`nestAr: :-p`
`06:09.05`	`Moc`	`at work, I shurly cant use linux...`
`06:09.09`	`implicit`	`y?`
`06:09.12`	`implicit`	`i use it at work`
`06:09.15`	`Moc`	`Well I did once, but I was RDP to a windows machine all the time`
`06:09.18`	`implicit`	`lol`
`06:09.38`	`Moc`	`or using the Citrix server`
`06:10.08`	`Moc`	`I work in a lawfirm, so we got alot of specialized applications`
`06:10.51`	`Moc`	`deltaview, DocsOpen,Folioview, lotusnote + plugin`
`06:11.05`	`Moc`	`Carpediem`
`06:11.17`	`nem`	`thats rough`
`06:11.21`	`Moc`	`Rightfax, Lasertrack`
`06:11.41`	`Moc`	`the list continue`
`06:11.54`	`Moc`	`btw is there an MS Access equivalent app for Linux ?`
`06:12.10`	`implicit`	`Moc: that is bullshit (most i could say without being too vulgar)`
`06:12.24`	`implicit`	`Moc wtf do you need MS Access for?`
`06:12.42`	`Moc`	`well some people like access`
`06:12.50`	`brc_`	`hahhahahaha`
`06:13.09`	`brc_`	`photoshop > gimp`
`06:13.13`	`implicit`	`brc_: agreed`
`06:13.17`	`brc_`	`*10`
`06:13.28`	`implicit`	`$photoshop > $gimp too`
`06:13.29`	`implicit`	`hehe`
`06:13.41`	`Moc`	`if there could be a photoshop like interface for gimp..`
`06:13.44`	`brc_`	`print $gimp`
`06:13.45`	`Moc`	`I use basic photoshop stuff`
`06:14.03`	`brc_`	`gimp doesn't have a lot of useful filters that ps does`
`06:14.16`	`implicit`	`brc_: yeah, i'm glad i dont need photoshop though`
`06:14.23`	`implicit`	`because i never want to use windows again`
`06:14.25`	`implicit`	`EVER`
`06:14.31`	`brc_`	`mkay`
`06:14.32`	`*** join/#asterisk rene- (~rene-@201.128.53.181)`
`06:14.33`	`implicit`	`it is so shit i get scared whenever i see it now`
`06:14.38`	`rene-`	`hey`
`06:14.39`	`brc_`	`I use what I need to to get a specific job done`
`06:14.41`	`*** join/#asterisk serdiehard (~serdiehar@202.65.128.19)`
`06:14.46`	`implicit`	`as if the shitness is going to seep over`
`06:14.50`	`brc_`	`whatup sdh`
`06:14.55`	`implicit`	`sup rene-`
`06:14.59`	`serdiehard`	`hello implicit`
`06:15.03`	`implicit`	`hi serdiehard`
`06:15.05`	`serdiehard`	`http://pastebin.ca/2199`
`06:15.08`	`implicit`	`k`
`06:15.11`	`rene-`	`ive just learned that the Mexican FCC has shut down 13 VoIP Operations here in Mexico`
`06:15.29`	`Moc`	`implicit, you use gnome or kde ?`
`06:15.32`	`implicit`	`rene-: hehe`
`06:15.35`	`implicit`	`Moc: NEITHER!`
`06:15.38`	`implicit`	`i use openbox 3`
`06:15.44`	`rene-`	`and that they are going after Vonage`
`06:15.45`	`implicit`	`i don't like bloated applications like gnome or KDE`
`06:15.47`	`rene-`	`http://www.bnamericas.com/story.xsql?id_noticia=300544&Tx_idioma=I&id_sector=2`
`06:16.16`	`rene-`	`they dont want anyone pushing traffic into mexico without the proper permi$$ions`
`06:16.39`	`nem`	`rene: that sucks`
`06:16.42`	`rene-`	`bigtime`
`06:17.00`	`implicit`	`nem: i dont think it sucks`
`06:17.06`	`implicit`	`nem: it is good`
`06:17.13`	`implicit`	`nem: people should get licenses`
`06:17.25`	`implicit`	`nem: bullshit when people just do whatever the hell they want and nobody knows about it`
`06:17.45`	`rene-`	`yeah but licenses are in the 7 zeros area. No asterisk with a PRI kind of thing`
`06:18.15`	`implicit`	`rene-: you can do * with pri still`
`06:18.21`	`implicit`	`just don't sell voip`
`06:18.27`	`rene-`	`yeah for contact centers`
`06:18.39`	`rene-`	`you can even do voice vpns`
`06:18.54`	`implicit`	`or you can just hide it really well`
`06:19.40`	`rene-`	`maybe, all those guys were people that resold or were powered by Vonage. others were carders`
`06:20.19`	`implicit`	`carders?`
`06:20.32`	`rene-`	`calling card business`
`06:20.34`	`implicit`	`yeah`
`06:20.46`	`implicit`	`it is not good to have calling card businesses go up without licensing`
`06:20.48`	`implicit`	`lots of fraud that way`
`06:21.50`	`rene-`	`i know, but what kind of money you have to have to buy a 1M license`
`06:22.01`	`rene-`	`i will answer my self`
`06:22.02`	`rene-`	`hehe`
`06:22.02`	`implicit`	`i dont think it should be 1M either`
`06:22.03`	`rene-`	`1M`
`06:22.18`	`rene-`	`yeah it suxs`
`06:22.20`	`implicit`	`but people should be shut down for running illegal termination sites`
`06:22.26`	`rene-`	`I think so`
`06:22.34`	`implicit`	`yeah`
`06:22.41`	`nem`	`i see your point.`
`06:22.46`	`implicit`	`there needs to be registration and accountability`
`06:22.48`	`implicit`	`thats all im saying`
`06:22.54`	`implicit`	`some countries are much cheaper`
`06:23.00`	`implicit`	`i didn't know mexico was that expensive`
`06:23.09`	`rene-`	`it is`
`06:23.18`	`rene-`	`other licences arent that expensive`
`06:23.25`	`rene-`	`1900 premium rate is around 1K`
`06:23.32`	`rene-`	`so is ISP`
`06:23.47`	`rene-`	`but to do any of those you have to go tru the main carrier`
`06:24.19`	`implicit`	`if you only have a little bit of money you NEED to go through main carrier anyway`
`06:25.10`	`rene-`	`i know but for some reason only the main carrier has authorization to do 1900 other carriers (national and foreign cant) im not sure if its because of its size is the only one that can actually collect the money`
`06:25.51`	`rene-`	`well i quit bitching about it`
`06:25.55`	`rene-`	`I ve been told that a foreign national can open a biz in the US`
`06:27.08`	`implicit`	`yeh`
`06:38.25`	`ChkDigit`	`Anybody want to help a newbie with a dev kit?`
`06:38.59`	`ChkDigit`	`I've got an TDM400P with 3 FXS, and 1 FXO modules.`
`06:39.32`	`ChkDigit`	`Question 1 is, Do the J1, J2, J3, J4 match up to ports 1,2,3,4 on the connection edge of the card?`
`06:40.22`	`ChkDigit`	`Question 2 is, when I modprobe wcfxo I get the following error:`
`06:40.51`	`ChkDigit`	`ZT_CHANCONFIG falied on channel 1: No such device or address (6)`
`06:44.45`	`ChkDigit`	`And, question 3 is, "Does anyone know if the Digium cards are UL or Industry Canada tested?"`
`06:49.24`	`*** join/#asterisk RoyKa (~roy@110.80-203-29.nextgentel.com)`
`06:54.34`	`ChkDigit`	`RoyKa: Are you willing to help a newbie?`
`06:55.13`	`*** join/#asterisk abbas_ (nidobas@203.81.221.3)`
`06:55.32`	`RoyKa`	`well`
`06:55.35`	`RoyKa`	`I can try`
`06:55.39`	`ChkDigit`	`=)`
`06:55.41`	`RoyKa`	`waddup?`
`06:56.01`	`RoyKa`	`I hate waking up early`
`06:56.09`	`ChkDigit`	`I just got a new TDM400P 3 FXS, 1 FXO and I've got some modprobe errors.`
`06:56.24`	`ChkDigit`	`ZT_CHANCONFIG falied on channel 1: No such device or address (6)`
`06:56.49`	`RoyKa`	`paste the output of lsmod,modprobe and ztcfg -vvv on pastebin.ca`
`06:57.28`	`WilliamK`	`anyone have a newer patch file that works under RH9 for spanDSP?`
`06:59.51`	`RoyKa`	`WilliamK, what patch?`
`06:59.54`	`RoyKa`	`kernel stuff?`
`07:00.15`	`ChkDigit`	`RoyKa: http://pastebin.ca/2200`
`07:00.36`	`RoyKa`	`sorry.`
`07:00.37`	`RoyKa`	`don't know`
`07:01.07`	`RoyKa`	`what does dmesg say?`
`07:01.29`	`WilliamK`	`RoyKa, patch with SpanDSP won't work with the CVS build`
`07:01.42`	`ChkDigit`	`Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major 196`
`07:02.22`	`WilliamK`	`np`
`07:02.29`	`ChkDigit`	`Ok, I'll muck around more with the docs... I found some new ones that may be relevant.`
`07:02.31`	`ChkDigit`	`Thanks.`
`07:05.51`	`*** part/#asterisk implicit (~implic1t@ip68-5-148-1.oc.oc.cox.net)`
`07:06.55`	`*** join/#asterisk xeet2 (~xeet3@gw1.istx.net)`
`07:07.13`	`xeet2`	`hello`
`07:07.29`	`xeet2`	`I have a sip question, anyone around?`
`07:07.54`	`WilliamK`	`xeet, people are always around`
`07:07.55`	`WilliamK`	`=)`
`07:08.14`	`WilliamK`	`this party never dies`
`07:08.55`	`xeet2`	`hehe`
`07:09.29`	`xeet2`	`chan_sip.c:7272 handle_request: Check for res for 2405241553`
`07:09.33`	`Atacomm`	`~seen file`
`07:09.33`	`jbot`	`file <~joshnet@mctn1-3192.nb.aliant.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #tacobeam, 1d 6h 52m 26s ago, saying: 'ah'.`
`07:09.42`	`Atacomm`	`~seen file[laptop]`
`07:09.42`	`jbot`	`file[laptop] is currently on #asterisk (13h 41m 9s) #tacobeam (13h 41m 9s). Has said a total of 106 messages. Is idling for 1h 30m 29s`
`07:09.46`	`xeet2`	`chan_sip.c:1585 update_user_counter: 2405241553 is not a local user`
`07:09.46`	`xeet2`	`Looking for 2405241553 in broadvoice`
`07:09.58`	`Atacomm`	`what a slacker, idle for 2 hours`
`07:10.03`	`xeet2`	`what syntax do I have to use to make that find it as a local user?`
`07:10.09`	`RoyKa`	`~slap Atacomm`
`07:10.14`	`jbot`	`ACTION slaps Atacomm, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`07:10.17`	`Atacomm`	`lol`
`07:10.52`	`WilliamK`	`wow`
`07:10.54`	`WilliamK`	`it's dan`
`07:10.55`	`WilliamK`	`=)`
`07:11.14`	`Atacomm`	`hehe, yup, its me`
`07:11.47`	`xeet2`	`basicly, I have two numbers with broadvoice, calls come in ok, but what kind of configuration do I need to use to make * do different things based on the destination number?`
`07:11.52`	`RoyKa`	`hm`
`07:12.07`	`RoyKa`	`is it possible to use dundi with extensions from a database?`
`07:12.08`	`RoyKa`	`files suck`
`07:14.23`	`BoRiS`	`Would be nicer to get variables from a real database included in the latest cvs`
`07:15.43`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`does asterisk have any support for proxy's like Xten X-Pro does?`
`07:17.19`	`brc_`	`no`
`07:17.27`	`RoyKa`	`does Sipura boxes support anything like encrypted SIP_`
`07:17.28`	`RoyKa`	`?`
`07:17.43`	`brc_`	`yes`
`07:17.59`	`Johaan`	`Hey everyone, Having some difficultly with IAX using the right context.. I've two boxes I am testing with`
`07:18.04`	`Johaan`	`tring to send calls to a specific context and it seems to ignore the peercontext line.`
`07:18.19`	`RoyKa`	`brc_, what kinds?`
`07:18.31`	`brc_`	`call sipura and ask`
`07:18.53`	`RoyKa`	`brc_, I thought if you already knew, you could perhaps spare me a sentence?`
`07:19.10`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`brc_: so if my provider requires going through proxys then what should i use`
`07:19.14`	`Johaan`	`[witte-out]`
`07:19.14`	`Johaan`	`type=peer`
`07:19.14`	`Johaan`	`user=lerc`
`07:19.14`	`Johaan`	`secret=1234`
`07:19.14`	`Johaan`	`context=witte`
`07:19.14`	`Johaan`	`host=192.168.1.22`
`07:19.17`	`Johaan`	`[client]`
`07:19.17`	`brc_`	`I believe they support some form of encryption, however I do not know what specifically`
`07:19.19`	`Johaan`	`type=user`
`07:19.20`	`brc_`	`please use a pastebin`
`07:19.21`	`Johaan`	`user=lerc`
`07:19.21`	`brc_`	`stop`
`07:19.23`	`Johaan`	`secret=1234`
`07:19.24`	`brc_`	`~pastebin`
`07:19.25`	`jbot`	`somebody said pastebin was a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca`
`07:19.51`	`Johaan`	`these are the lines from my iax.conf.. okay, Will use pastebin in the future.`
`07:20.30`	`brc_`	`k..`
`07:20.38`	`brc_`	`now.....what's the problem exactly?`
`07:20.41`	`brc_`	`it`
`07:20.47`	`brc_`	`seems to ignore the context?`
`07:21.24`	`Johaan`	`iax is sending the call to the other server but I see the call getting rejected because the extention doesn't exsist in context default.`
`07:21.37`	`Johaan`	`which is true, the exten in in context witte..`
`07:22.13`	`Johaan`	`Why doesn't it use the context provided in the iax.conf?? I have also tried peercontext.`
`07:22.43`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`so are there any workarounds for asterick to use it with proxys`
`07:23.07`	`brc_`	`yellow_fuzzy, you most likely just think you want a sip proxy,...but don't really`
`07:23.19`	`xeet2`	`yello_fuzzy: what are you trying to do?`
`07:23.21`	`brc_`	`if you know why you need a sip proxy, use SER`
`07:23.23`	`xeet2`	`+w`
`07:24.13`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`my provider engin.com.au goes through some proxies before going into thier main SIP server and onto thier VOIP network`
`07:24.29`	`brc_`	`so....`
`07:24.58`	`brc_`	`that doesn't explain why you need a sip proxy on the asterisk side`
`07:25.02`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`so how do i setup asterick to also do that`
`07:25.22`	`Nugget`	`how did you manage to join this channel if you don't know how to spell "asterisk"?`
`07:25.53`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`lol this is about the third time today someones mentioned that to me :P`
`07:26.03`	`Nugget`	`how many more times before you get the hint?`
`07:26.21`	`brc_`	`first of all, it is spelled asteriSk`
`07:26.38`	`brc_`	`second of all, you simply use the AsteriSk sip channel`
`07:27.14`	`brc_`	`when you aren't sure about how to do something, don't assume.`
`07:27.34`	`brc_`	`install asterisk. make samples. look at sip.conf...it should be pretty obvious`
`07:28.52`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`ive already got asterisk installed and setup for internal calls but still havent been able to get my VOIP working and my provider wont give me the SIP details so i have to decipher them from the diagnostic log in X-Ten X-Pro`
`07:29.17`	`brc_`	`get another provider`
`07:29.26`	`xeet2`	`heh`
`07:29.30`	`brc_`	`it's a big sea with many fish in it`
`07:29.31`	`xeet2`	`who's your provider?`
`07:29.43`	`xeet2`	`well said`
`07:29.47`	`brc_`	`don't screw around with stupid providers that won't accomodate you`
`07:30.13`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`engin.com.au`
`07:30.14`	`brc_`	`most likely if you use their service with something other then X-Pro it is a violation of their TOS or AUP`
`07:30.22`	`RoyKa`	`brc_, fwics spa 2k,2k1 nor 3k support neither ssl,ipsec nor srtp. have I forgotten any?`
`07:30.40`	`brc_`	`RoyKa, I thought it did ssl...`
`07:30.42`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`their tech said to me if you know how to set it up your self good for you :P`
`07:30.45`	`brc_`	`could be wrong though`
`07:30.59`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`there arent that many providers in australia yet`
`07:31.00`	`RoyKa`	`their tech spec doesn't say so`
`07:31.04`	`brc_`	`yellow_fuzzy, get. another. provider. who. will. give. you. the. login. credentials.`
`07:32.04`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`but engin have the best prices of australian providers atm`
`07:33.06`	`brc_`	`everything you need should be in the sip.conf.example file...let us know if you get stuck with anything (on the Asterisk side....they may block everything but X-Pro)`
`07:33.22`	`CoaxD`	`brc: Dunno how they'd do that`
`07:33.28`	`CoaxD`	`brc: sip is sip`
`07:33.42`	`RoyKa`	`SIP:0xc0ffee`
`07:33.45`	`CoaxD`	`brc: Unless they knew how x-pro responded and denied everything else`
`07:33.48`	`brc_`	`there are...ways`
`07:33.59`	`CoaxD`	`brc: But even then, one could make asterisk mimic x-pro, and voila`
`07:34.03`	`brc_`	`true`
`07:34.07`	`WilliamK`	`hey brc, by chance have you seen a newer makefile.patch file floating around for spanDSP that works with the cvs head?`
`07:34.15`	`brc_`	`but one would have to know what they were doing to do that`
`07:34.21`	`brc_`	`WilliamK, nope...`
`07:34.22`	`CoaxD`	`brc: Sure!`
`07:34.23`	`brc_`	`sorry`
`07:34.30`	`yellow_fuzzy`	`any way of setting the Usage-Agent in asterisk`
`07:34.32`	`CoaxD`	`brc: But we could just call our best buddy Mark Spencer.. :)`
`07:34.50`	`CoaxD`	`brc: He'd say "OOOH, i'll have a patch for that in...3 days!"`
`07:35.21`	`CoaxD`	`brc: Cuz the truth is, doing detection like that is pure, utter bullshit - and should be thwarted at any and all cost`
`07:41.30`	`RoyKa`	`is there such a thing as iax over ssl or perhaps better ways to do secure VoIP with *?`
`07:48.52`	`ChkDigit`	`RoyKa: Can you connect the machines with something like OpenVPN, or do you want to do this dynamically?`
`07:49.26`	`brc_`	`iax over ipsec vpn works for me`
`07:49.31`	`brc_`	`course it adds latency`
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`07:51.59`	`ZX81`	`how much?`
`07:52.16`	`RoyKa`	`so, the answer would be, no, AIX does not have any encryption mechanisms...`
`07:52.28`	`RoyKa`	`but of course you can run it over ipsec like everything else.....`
`07:52.30`	`ZX81`	`IAX`
`07:52.41`	`ZX81`	`AIX has lots!`
`07:52.41`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`07:52.49`	`RoyKa`	`one`
`07:52.53`	`RoyKa`	`for authentication`
`07:53.19`	`RoyKa`	`iax over ssh`
`07:53.19`	`RoyKa`	`heh`
`07:53.37`	`ZX81`	`AIX != IAX`
`07:53.40`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`07:54.06`	`RoyKa`	`er`
`07:54.16`	`ZX81`	`IAX + 100,000,000 > AIX * 100,000,000`
`07:54.16`	`RoyKa`	`~lart ZX81`
`07:54.18`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`07:54.33`	`ZX81`	`~thwack RoyKa`
`07:54.36`	`jbot`	`ACTION bludgeons RoyKa on the eblow with a toaster`
`07:54.40`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`07:55.09`	`ZX81`	`~thwack jbot`
`07:55.13`	`jbot`	`ACTION smacks jbot on the toe with a AS/400`
`07:55.13`	`RoyKa`	`~lart ZX81`
`07:55.14`	`RoyKa`	`~fart ZX81`
`07:55.19`	`jbot`	`ACTION farts in ZX81's general direction`
`07:55.19`	`RoyKa`	`~kick ZX81`
`07:55.22`	`jbot`	`bugger off sod!`
`07:55.22`	`RoyKa`	`~kill ZX81`
`07:55.24`	`jbot`	`ACTION shoots a neutrino gun at ZX81`
`07:55.24`	`RoyKa`	`~frag ZX81`
`07:55.26`	`jbot`	`ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at ZX81`
`07:55.26`	`ZX81`	`lol`
`07:55.30`	`ZX81`	`lol`
`07:55.39`	`ZX81`	`~kill RoyKa`
`07:55.41`	`jbot`	`ACTION shoots a neutrino gun at RoyKa`
`07:55.53`	`RoyKa`	`~far ZX81`
`07:55.58`	`ZX81`	`~lart RoyKa`
`07:56.13`	`RoyKa`	`bah`
`07:56.28`	`ZX81`	`oh oh we're in trouble now`
`07:56.30`	`ZX81`	`ah no`
`07:56.34`	`ZX81`	`he was just stirring`
`07:56.36`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`07:56.51`	`RoyKa`	`~kick ZX81`
`07:56.53`	`jbot`	`bugger off sod!`
`07:57.01`	`ZX81`	`we should try to be a little quieter...wouldn't want to wake kram`
`07:57.03`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`07:57.07`	`RoyKa`	`hehe`
`07:57.45`	`ZX81`	`do sha!`
`07:57.46`	`ZX81`	`lol`
`07:58.00`	`ZX81`	`who needs to know whats in the packets!`
`07:58.04`	`ZX81`	`sha=1 way`
`07:58.06`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`07:58.08`	`RoyKa`	`eh`
`07:58.10`	`RoyKa`	`yeah`
`07:58.13`	`RoyKa`	`md5 it all`
`07:58.15`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`07:58.58`	`RoyKa`	`just thought a PSK like scenario`
`07:59.02`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`08:00.48`	`ZX81`	`~thwap BoRiS`
`08:00.50`	`jbot`	`ACTION bends over BoRiS and grins happily`
`08:00.58`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`08:01.09`	`BoRiS`	`:)`
`08:01.18`	`ZX81`	`~adn`
`08:01.19`	`jbot`	`well, daily asterisk news is http://www.sineapps.com/news.php for html and http://www.sineapps.com/rssfeed.php for rss`
`08:12.38`	`abbas_`	`~info`
`08:13.09`	`abbas_`	`~new`
`08:13.10`	`jbot`	`hmm... new is whatever's not old`
`08:13.31`	`abbas_`	`~asterisk gui`
`08:13.32`	`jbot`	`asterisk gui is, like, there are several WebGUI's in development for asterisk, feel free to add yours to this list. Moc's WebGUI demo is at http://snurl.com/moc_gui (source at http://snurl.com/moc_gui_src )`
`08:14.25`	`abbas_`	`~asterisk billing`
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`08:19.46`	`abbas_`	`~asterisk`
`08:19.47`	`jbot`	`well, asterisk is a PBX (Private Branch eXchange) and telephony toolkit. http://www.asterisk.org`
`08:20.02`	`abbas_`	`~asterisk-dev`
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`08:21.12`	`Silik0n`	`~pr0n`
`08:21.13`	`jbot`	`somebody said pr0n was porn-get is at http://www.lesbian.mine.nu, or http://www.pornolize.com/cgi-bin/pornolize2/pornolize2.cgi?lang=en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.debian.org, or see pr0n.sf.net`
`08:21.16`	`brc_`	`h3x!`
`08:21.18`	`brc_`	`omgwtf`
`08:21.28`	`Silik0n`	`har!`
`08:28.23`	`tessier_`	`Debian creams the unclefucking Linux kernel`
`08:28.25`	`tessier_`	`No shit.`
`08:30.09`	`RoyKa`	`~lart tessier`
`08:30.11`	`RoyKa`	`~lart tessier_`
`08:30.42`	`brc_`	`tessier_, stop spamming`
`08:31.44`	`tessier_`	`Not all at once now...`
`08:31.56`	`RoyKa`	`hm`
`08:32.10`	`RoyKa`	`where would I put encryption in chan_iax2?`
`08:32.47`	`brc_`	`ha`
`08:32.48`	`brc_`	`haha`
`08:32.50`	`brc_`	`hahahhahaha`
`08:32.54`	`brc_`	`bwhhahahah ahhahaha hah ahaha ha ahha`
`08:33.02`	`brc_`	`as they say,`
`08:33.05`	`brc_`	`if you have to ask`
`08:34.22`	`ZX81`	`tessier_: ?`
`08:34.30`	`brc_`	`tessier_, I'm serious, cut it out`
`08:34.33`	`tessier_`	`ZX81: Hey there.`
`08:34.38`	`h3x`	`omgwtf!`
`08:34.40`	`ZX81`	`why you spammin?`
`08:34.50`	`tessier_`	`ZX81: Why are you spammin?`
`08:34.57`	`ZX81`	`cos I'm a spamma`
`08:35.30`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`08:35.49`	`ZX81`	`~kick ZX81`
`08:35.51`	`jbot`	`bugger off sod!`
`08:35.56`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
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`08:37.47`	`tessier_`	`So I can tell personal calls from business calls when they get forwarded to my mobile phone`
`08:38.23`	`Slimey`	`yeah. Mobile phones should support caller name`
`08:38.36`	`Slimey`	`or, in fact, telcos in general should ;)`
`08:38.55`	`h3x`	`tessier: what I do is setcallerid to the number dialed in some special cases so that i can set different ringtones`
`08:39.10`	`brc_`	`k`
`08:39.27`	`brc_`	`tessier, that's silly`
`08:39.28`	`brc_`	`just`
`08:39.29`	`brc_`	`oh`
`08:39.30`	`brc_`	`well`
`08:39.35`	`tessier_`	`hex: I have thought about that but I would still like to be able to know what number is calling me too.`
`08:39.35`	`brc_`	`nevermind`
`08:39.51`	`brc_`	`the problem is`
`08:40.08`	`brc_`	`some phones/carriers drop cid digits over 10...or just don't display cidnum at all`
`08:40.29`	`h3x`	`well its more typical for wireless`
`08:40.32`	`h3x`	`to show the whole thing`
`08:40.48`	`h3x`	`but your tdm carrier may drop it`
`08:41.16`	`tessier_`	`brc_: Indeed, I have thought of that. But I know I saw a recipe on the wiki somewhere that does this...`
`08:41.17`	`h3x`	`what i have been able to do is have a number shorter than 10 digits`
`08:41.25`	`Slimey`	`I've yet to get a PBX or PSTN connection for asterisk which even lets me set CID`
`08:41.37`	`brc_`	`Slimey, gotta have t1`
`08:41.45`	`brc_`	`tessier, BWHAH HAHAH AHHA HAHHA AH`
`08:41.52`	`brc_`	`(that's a no)`
`08:42.15`	`Slimey`	`brc: Hmm, I might find a spare E1 to BT, wonder if that'll work ;)`
`08:42.17`	`tessier_`	`Then...why does SEtCIDName exist?`
`08:42.37`	`Slimey`	`CIDName seems to only work over the VoIP parts of the network`
`08:42.50`	`tessier_`	`I have name and number delivery on my PRI...`
`08:42.53`	`brc_`	`tessier_, bwhahaha`
`08:42.55`	`brc_`	`hahahaha`
`08:42.56`	`brc_`	`ha`
`08:43.01`	`Slimey`	`It gets passed in ISDN Q931, but I dunno what supports it`
`08:43.04`	`brc_`	`setcidname is very very useful`
`08:43.47`	`brc_`	`but you can not set cidname (usually.....for all practical purposes just assume always) pstn links`
`08:44.39`	`brc_`	`that's nice`
`08:44.43`	`tessier_`	`Seems like everyone wants it but nobody knows what they want to do with it`
`08:45.03`	`brc_`	`yup`
`08:45.16`	`brc_`	`most people have some vague idea of what it is`
`08:45.20`	`Slimey`	`If you hve a DS3 voice trunk, does that still use Q931?`
`08:45.27`	`brc_`	`and go, OOO look! shiny! must demand it!`
`08:45.28`	`Slimey`	`ditto STM1/OC3 ?`
`08:48.39`	`h3x`	`did you get * working with FC3`
`08:48.42`	`h3x`	`i gave up on udev`
`08:48.46`	`tessier_`	`I had gotten out of the habit of using it since I rarely get around to setting it up to spawn X`
`08:48.53`	`tessier_`	`Yes, * works fine with FC3`
`08:49.00`	`tessier_`	`I had no problems at all`
`08:49.02`	`h3x`	`i mean, zaptel`
`08:49.20`	`h3x`	`i couldnt get that shit to work for the life of me`
`08:49.23`	`tessier_`	`oh, zaptel...no, haven't used any zaptel on FC3. We are all VOIP to TNT's for PSTN`
`08:49.24`	`h3x`	`you know what the problem is`
`08:49.34`	`tessier_`	`But good that you mention it. I'll be on the lookout for it.`
`08:49.35`	`h3x`	`i had to run ztcfg twice to get the thing to build /dev/zap/*`
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`09:08.31`	`tessier_`	`cool`
`09:09.04`	`tessier_`	`SetCallerID works just fine. I appended a 99 to the number`
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`09:19.23`	`CoderCR`	`hello all`
`09:19.27`	`CoderCR`	`anyone around?`
`09:19.37`	`ZX81`	`i'm a bit round`
`09:20.13`	`Atacomm`	`god, i just realized that 5 mil traces / spacing is more dense than even PIII motherboards I have.... those i think are 6 mil.... 5 mil can fit 4 traces + spacing within 1 mm`
`09:20.26`	`Atacomm`	`(i'm using 5 mil spacing on my card, heh)`
`09:20.52`	`CoderCR`	`i am trying to find out when i call 1 ata 186 from my ata 186. The connection is lost and i receive no error or anything, i just lose sound. but i can call out voicemail and get my voice mail and also call out with voicepulse connect and so can the other ata 186`
`09:21.05`	`CoderCR`	`but only when i call them or they call me it drops the connection`
`09:21.13`	`ZX81`	`canreinvite`
`09:21.19`	`ZX81`	`~canreinvite`
`09:21.26`	`ZX81`	`heh`
`09:22.26`	`ZX81`	`~jbot canreinvite is quite often the reason you will lose sound shortly after the start of a call. It releates to NAT. Have a look on the wiki at www.voip-info.org for canreinvite`
`09:22.27`	`jbot`	`ZX81: okay`
`09:22.31`	`ZX81`	`~canreinvite`
`09:22.32`	`jbot`	`i guess canreinvite is quite often the reason you will lose sound shortly after the start of a call. It releates to NAT. Have a look on the wiki at http://www.voip-info.org for canreinvite`
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`09:23.15`	`Blackvel`	`who can explain me voip, adsl and QOS ? :)`
`09:23.15`	`CoderCR`	`zx81`
`09:23.15`	`CoderCR`	`thanks :)`
`09:23.18`	`ZX81`	`type /topic`
`09:23.19`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`09:23.21`	`CoderCR`	`hehehe i forgot about that`
`09:23.25`	`ZX81`	`CoderCR: no probs`
`09:23.39`	`Blackvel`	`upps`
`09:23.41`	`ZX81`	`Blackvel: what is the topic?`
`09:23.42`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`09:23.43`	`Blackvel`	`forgot to say hi :)`
`09:23.44`	`ZX81`	`hello`
`09:23.52`	`CoderCR`	`my account and my mexico account has canreinvite=yes... lol`
`09:23.53`	`ZX81`	`better`
`09:23.54`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`09:23.55`	`Blackvel`	`morning world! :)`
`09:24.10`	`ZX81`	`Blackvel: best bet is to have a look on the wiki`
`09:24.12`	`ZX81`	`~wiki`
`09:24.31`	`ZX81`	`~wiki qos`
`09:24.33`	`Blackvel`	`you must know i am experienced but have a very detail expert question :)`
`09:24.51`	`ZX81`	`~wiki voip`
`09:25.06`	`ZX81`	`also, go and have a look at www.voip-info.org`
`09:25.30`	`Blackvel`	`ZX81 do you use it ? :)`
`09:25.34`	`ZX81`	`yes`
`09:25.37`	`ZX81`	`for everything`
`09:25.42`	`Blackvel`	`one little question for you`
`09:25.44`	`Blackvel`	`with adsl ?`
`09:25.48`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`09:25.51`	`ZX81`	`2mbit`
`09:25.52`	`Blackvel`	`what upstream bw ?`
`09:25.54`	`ZX81`	`was 256kbit`
`09:25.55`	`ZX81`	`128`
`09:25.59`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`09:25.59`	`Blackvel`	`k`
`09:26.01`	`ZX81`	`New Zealand`
`09:26.10`	`ZX81`	`4 GSM was fine`
`09:26.27`	`Blackvel`	`what is that qos and voip problem about having packets that fill for some time the whole bw ? it has something to do with the MTU 1500`
`09:26.41`	`ZX81`	`ok`
`09:26.50`	`ZX81`	`QOS is quality of service`
`09:26.55`	`Blackvel`	`look`
`09:26.56`	`Blackvel`	`i am expert`
`09:26.57`	`Blackvel`	`;)`
`09:27.01`	`ZX81`	`oh ok`
`09:27.06`	`ZX81`	`set your mtu to 1490`
`09:27.12`	`ZX81`	`ADSL has extra overhead`
`09:27.20`	`ZX81`	`and may not like sending out 1500`
`09:27.20`	`Blackvel`	`i have 1492 right now`
`09:27.24`	`ZX81`	`cool`
`09:27.26`	`ZX81`	`QOS=tc`
`09:27.33`	`ZX81`	`use the wondershaper script`
`09:27.44`	`ZX81`	`you can find a link to it on the voip-info.org sitre`
`09:27.53`	`Blackvel`	`someone told me qos is kinda useless (works for me here) because there is some moment where the packet fills the whole 256 kbit upstream bw`
`09:28.02`	`Blackvel`	`there was some calulation`
`09:28.11`	`ZX81`	`no`
`09:28.12`	`Blackvel`	`where 1500 x Y = 256kbitz`
`09:28.14`	`ZX81`	`not upstream`
`09:28.17`	`ZX81`	`downstream`
`09:28.25`	`ZX81`	`you can't control downloads`
`09:28.29`	`Blackvel`	`but mostly its the upstream problem`
`09:28.34`	`ZX81`	`but you can control what goes out`
`09:28.36`	`Blackvel`	`the other person hears choppy sound`
`09:28.42`	`Blackvel`	`i know that and i do that`
`09:28.42`	`ZX81`	`you put all packets into bins`
`09:28.50`	`ZX81`	`and prioritise them`
`09:28.56`	`ZX81`	`if one is voip, send it first`
`09:29.06`	`Blackvel`	`but still there is some problem, i got 384 and its better. but my ppl complain who have 128/196/256`
`09:29.13`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`09:29.20`	`ZX81`	`because upstream is slower`
`09:29.21`	`Blackvel`	`so someone here told me its some MTU issue`
`09:29.28`	`ZX81`	`nope`
`09:29.31`	`ZX81`	`qos`
`09:29.34`	`ZX81`	`definately`
`09:29.41`	`ZX81`	`if you don't have something set up for qos`
`09:29.51`	`ZX81`	`you will lose voice whenever enough goes out or in`
`09:29.55`	`Blackvel`	`yes but there seems to be some thing where a packet fills the whole uplink slot`
`09:30.03`	`ZX81`	`hmmm`
`09:30.09`	`ZX81`	`not if you have qos`
`09:30.23`	`ZX81`	`i have packets trying to get out at 100mbit and voice is fine`
`09:30.35`	`ZX81`	`even though there is only 128kbit`
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`09:30.46`	`ZX81`	`you just have to prioritise them`
`09:30.47`	`Blackvel`	`what could be the factor for 1500 x Y = 256kbit ?`
`09:31.09`	`Blackvel`	`1500 x 80 ?`
`09:31.11`	`Blackvel`	`hmm dunno`
`09:31.26`	`ZX81`	`~256/1500`
`09:31.27`	`jbot`	`0.170666666667`
`09:31.39`	`Blackvel`	`dunno i cant remember anymore`
`09:32.01`	`ZX81`	`I do remeber something about mtu being important that your pc is doing 1492`
`09:32.10`	`ZX81`	`maybe adsl router has to do 1500`
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`09:32.23`	`ZX81`	`otherwise the packets get fragmented or something`
`09:32.56`	`Blackvel`	`that dude just told me for 128kbit/256kbit upstream there is some huge problem, because e.g TCP packets like p2p (e.g emule) fill up the whole upstream with the mtu, where the packet is completely 256kbit and that means when this is some milliseconds that qos cant do anything just because the packet gets sent out right now and the whole uplink is filled`
`09:33.02`	`Blackvel`	`so qos cant shape anyhting here`
`09:33.14`	`Blackvel`	`because qos is sending the tcp packet yet`
`09:33.17`	`ZX81`	`not true`
`09:33.21`	`Blackvel`	`so voip packet can not be sent`
`09:33.24`	`ZX81`	`everything goes to qos`
`09:33.37`	`ZX81`	`if qos is right it will decide what to send`
`09:33.39`	`ZX81`	`I use emule`
`09:33.42`	`tessier_`	`ZX81: 1500 is the max transmit unit of standard ethernet`
`09:33.44`	`Blackvel`	`yes but at some time even with qos, the kernel has to send out the packet over the little uplink`
`09:33.47`	`ZX81`	`k`
`09:33.50`	`tessier_`	`ZX81: No need to set it to anything smaller`
`09:33.56`	`ZX81`	`tessier_: is 1490 max for adsl?`
`09:34.03`	`tessier_`	`ZX81: No. It is 1500 also.`
`09:34.06`	`ZX81`	`ok`
`09:34.17`	`tessier_`	`Not sure where the number 1490 could have come from`
`09:34.18`	`ZX81`	`what little uplink?`
`09:34.21`	`ZX81`	`yeah`
`09:34.23`	`Blackvel`	`mostly you run into problems with adsl and mtu 1500, this depends much on the routers of the providers`
`09:34.23`	`ZX81`	`weird a`
`09:34.33`	`ZX81`	`right`
`09:34.48`	`Blackvel`	`if the providers do not support mtu 1500 you run into problems with webpages`
`09:34.56`	`tessier_`	`uh`
`09:34.57`	`tessier_`	`no`
`09:34.58`	`Blackvel`	`and most adsl providers do not support that`
`09:35.06`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`09:35.06`	`tessier_`	`mtu has nothing to do with webpages`
`09:35.19`	`Blackvel`	`there are timeouts for sure`
`09:35.25`	`ZX81`	`will fragment packets though, but they should be reassembled no?`
`09:35.29`	`tessier_`	`If you set your max mtu too big the packets will just be fragmented`
`09:35.30`	`Blackvel`	`and also that depends on double packets`
`09:35.33`	`tessier_`	`ZX81: correct`
`09:36.24`	`*** join/#asterisk nowork (~jfu2808@CPE00a0c5e1b8b3-CM013010000950.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`09:36.33`	`Blackvel`	`but`
`09:36.38`	`ZX81`	`I theoretically should have lost absolutely all my brain cells by now...I'm 27`
`09:36.42`	`Blackvel`	`that gets me away from my qos p4roblem :)`
`09:36.42`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`09:37.01`	`ZX81`	`your qos problem is that the tos flag is not set right for rtp packets maybe`
`09:37.13`	`Blackvel`	`nope`
`09:37.16`	`ZX81`	`and so they don't fall under your port numbering for higher prioritt`
`09:37.21`	`Blackvel`	`nope`
`09:37.23`	`Blackvel`	`:)`
`09:37.25`	`ZX81`	`k`
`09:37.27`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`09:37.53`	`ZX81`	`do you want me to email you my wondershaper script?`
`09:38.05`	`ZX81`	`for comparrison?`
`09:38.08`	`Blackvel`	`nope`
`09:38.11`	`ZX81`	`ok`
`09:38.12`	`tessier_`	`wondershaper rocks`
`09:38.16`	`ZX81`	`indeed`
`09:38.17`	`Blackvel`	`i have rewritten wondershaper`
`09:38.24`	`Blackvel`	`wondershaper suxx quite big ;)`
`09:38.25`	`ZX81`	`:-) its a script`
`09:38.34`	`ZX81`	`you rewrote tc?`
`09:38.45`	`Blackvel`	`once i downloaded the offical script, i saw a major bug`
`09:38.53`	`ZX81`	`ok`
`09:38.56`	`Blackvel`	`also merging voip + ack packets on queue 1:20 is really useless`
`09:38.57`	`Blackvel`	`if you ask me`
`09:38.57`	`ZX81`	`what was that?`
`09:39.05`	`Blackvel`	`wrong prio for 1:30`
`09:39.13`	`Blackvel`	`dunno if that is fixed yet`
`09:39.17`	`ZX81`	`when did you download?`
`09:39.21`	`ZX81`	`think so`
`09:39.23`	`Blackvel`	`this year`
`09:39.29`	`ZX81`	`I've read through it a few times`
`09:39.31`	`Blackvel`	`march to may`
`09:39.43`	`ZX81`	`but mine's pretty stock`
`09:40.03`	`abbas_`	`hi guys`
`09:40.07`	`ZX81`	`I stream movies around the house, make voip calls and run emule all at the same time`
`09:40.10`	`ZX81`	`hi abbas_`
`09:40.19`	`abbas_`	`i wanna test my DID can any one make a call on US and UK DID?`
`09:40.28`	`ZX81`	`Sorry, New Zealand`
`09:40.48`	`abbas_`	`UK is very low from NZ`
`09:40.51`	`ZX81`	`anyone us or uk?`
`09:40.55`	`Blackvel`	`i am in germany but i could voip call us or uk did`
`09:41.01`	`ZX81`	`yeah`
`09:41.03`	`abbas_`	`thanks`
`09:41.26`	`Blackvel`	`never had a problem with performance of that voip pstn providers ;)`
`09:42.01`	`*** join/#asterisk Mike_TK (~Mike_@213.180.245.62)`
`09:42.09`	`Blackvel`	`hm`
`09:42.10`	`Blackvel`	`i think`
`09:42.17`	`Blackvel`	`i want to understand that mtu packet issue`
`09:42.28`	`ZX81`	`there is a test for it`
`09:42.30`	`Blackvel`	`any network / IP specialist in here ?`
`09:42.34`	`ZX81`	`you send:`
`09:42.38`	`ZX81`	`sorry do:`
`09:42.50`	`ZX81`	`ping -something 1490 host -dontfragment`
`09:42.57`	`ZX81`	`sorry for psseudocode`
`09:43.15`	`ZX81`	`and change the 1490 until it says cannot send without fragmenting`
`09:43.32`	`ZX81`	`from windows:`
`09:43.36`	`Blackvel`	`nope`
`09:43.38`	`Blackvel`	`i mean`
`09:43.59`	`ZX81`	`ping -l 1500 -f xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx`
`09:44.04`	`Blackvel`	`i need someone to explain me how much bandwidth is used with MTU 1500/1490 so 256kbit gets filled`
`09:44.23`	`ZX81`	`256kbit?`
`09:44.36`	`Blackvel`	`that was the max i got told yeah`
`09:44.37`	`ZX81`	`you mean packet overhead?`
`09:44.45`	`Blackvel`	`anything bigger than 256kbit is fine`
`09:44.52`	`ZX81`	`256kbit = 256kbit bandwidth`
`09:44.57`	`Blackvel`	`jepp`
`09:45.04`	`ZX81`	`refrase sorry`
`09:45.41`	`ZX81`	`256kbit badwidth is used with 1500/1490/222 etc to fill 256kbit`
`09:45.51`	`Blackvel`	`yes`
`09:46.02`	`Blackvel`	`dunno`
`09:46.02`	`ZX81`	`so what's your question?`
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`09:46.05`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`09:46.11`	`Blackvel`	`i am not an IP expert`
`09:46.26`	`ZX81`	`~wiki mtu`
`09:46.29`	`Blackvel`	`I dont know the name of that dude who explained me that`
`09:46.49`	`ZX81`	`~wiki Maximum Transfer Unit`
`09:46.54`	`Mike_TK`	`:)`
`09:46.59`	`Blackvel`	`let's not getting deeper with that. I know just that the MTU and a special packet size can maximizes out your upstream`
`09:47.11`	`ZX81`	`but thats just not true`
`09:47.12`	`Blackvel`	`not caring about QOS anymore`
`09:47.20`	`Blackvel`	`i just need someone to explain me that`
`09:47.42`	`Blackvel`	`so, why 128kbit ppl get that choppy sound with bittorrent/emule and that ? and me with 384kbit not ? :)`
`09:47.59`	`ZX81`	`because you have more bandwidth/you have qos they don't`
`09:48.14`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`128kbit is a bit low for running both voip and bt/emule really..`
`09:48.24`	`Blackvel`	`why`
`09:48.27`	`ZX81`	`I had 64kbit a week ago when I got rate limited for downloading too much pr0n and it was still fine`
`09:48.35`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`09:48.36`	`Blackvel`	`you could have QOS drop emule to 1kbit :)`
`09:48.42`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`09:48.45`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`if you have QoS, then sure :P`
`09:48.48`	`ZX81`	`if the voice requires it`
`09:48.59`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`except again, inbound QoS doesn't really work properly`
`09:49.02`	`Mike_TK`	`What connection type do you use with yor 384 connection?`
`09:49.03`	`ZX81`	`yah`
`09:49.08`	`Mike_TK`	`It's some xdsl`
`09:49.11`	`Blackvel`	`all ppl have qos but it seems not working`
`09:49.12`	`Mike_TK`	`?`
`09:49.21`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`obviously it is possible (on linux using for example using IMQ)`
`09:49.24`	`ZX81`	`you can at least try avoiding caching at the ISP by setting your inbound slightlky lower than it can go to`
`09:49.31`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`but not very well`
`09:49.31`	`Blackvel`	`dunno if that is just because of their scripts or that mtu issue having a packet filling the whole bandwidth for some milliseconds`
`09:49.40`	`Blackvel`	`yes you have to do that`
`09:49.41`	`Blackvel`	`80%`
`09:49.55`	`ZX81`	`:-) mine's a little higher`
`09:49.59`	`ZX81`	`like 90%`
`09:50.12`	`Blackvel`	`but it is not an inbound issue, but only an outbound issue`
`09:50.25`	`ZX81`	`ahhhhh`
`09:50.29`	`ZX81`	`what codec?`
`09:50.31`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`Blackvel , so who is getting the sound issues? you or them?`
`09:50.38`	`ZX81`	`ulaw on 128kbit upstream?`
`09:50.54`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`I'm having a similar problem tbh..Only inbound sound gets choppy though (on 256kbit with QoS)`
`09:50.56`	`ZX81`	`with wrong mtu, you would be doubling packet count`
`09:51.05`	`ZX81`	`because of fragmentation`
`09:51.32`	`Mike_TK`	`Did you played with Jitter? Maybe it can help?`
`09:51.34`	`ZX81`	`i.e. if your router was 1490 and your internal network 1500`
`09:51.55`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`presumably, path MTU should fix that? Or am I missing something here? :>`
`09:52.07`	`ZX81`	`:-) maybe I'm just lucky - I haven't screwed that much with my script and yet it works fine`
`09:52.15`	`ZX81`	`mmmm...iax though`
`09:52.25`	`ZX81`	`so one end port number always known`
`09:52.37`	`ZX81`	`but I set the tos flag too`
`09:52.52`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`yeah, I match based on tos as well`
`09:52.56`	`ZX81`	`you guys doing sip or iax?`
`09:53.01`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`SIP here`
`09:53.04`	`ZX81`	`mmm`
`09:53.15`	`ZX81`	`lotsa differnt ports for rtp`
`09:53.16`	`Blackvel`	`RaYmAn-Bx not me (well for bittorrent even for me), but the other party`
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`09:53.32`	`ZX81`	`Blackvel: sip or iax?`
`09:53.36`	`Blackvel`	`sip`
`09:53.52`	`*** join/#asterisk BoRiS (~boris@wnpgmb01dc2-27-113.dynamic.mts.net)`
`09:54.03`	`ZX81`	`can you check if the tos flag is being set with ethereal etc?`
`09:54.04`	`Mike_TK`	`What router do you use?`
`09:54.15`	`Mike_TK`	`Is it some windows machine with ppp?`
`09:54.20`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`bittorrent is evil because of the huge amounts of connections it creates. Not all routers can quite handle that`
`09:54.28`	`Blackvel`	`linux can`
`09:54.30`	`ZX81`	`emule creates more`
`09:54.48`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`okay (I don't use emule)`
`09:54.49`	`Blackvel`	`wrt with linux`
`09:55.02`	`ZX81`	`:-) I alternate`
`09:55.02`	`Blackvel`	`same applies for bittorrent`
`09:55.08`	`Blackvel`	`queue 1:10 is voip only`
`09:55.15`	`ZX81`	`really?`
`09:55.20`	`ZX81`	`as well as rtp streams?`
`09:55.22`	`Blackvel`	`but bittorrent creates choppy sound anyways`
`09:55.39`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`Blackvel , of course linux can..but the modem/router connected to the actual DSL might not be able to`
`09:55.42`	`ZX81`	`you sure it's not making packets with tos flag?`
`09:55.48`	`Blackvel`	`so it is not only some QOS stuff (maybe htb is wrong with some missing patches) :)`
`09:55.51`	`ZX81`	`*marking`
`09:55.55`	`Blackvel`	`tos ? forget tos`
`09:56.01`	`Blackvel`	`i mark the rtp packets manually`
`09:56.05`	`ZX81`	`?`
`09:56.07`	`ZX81`	`manually ?`
`09:56.10`	`ZX81`	`1 at a time?`
`09:56.12`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`09:56.15`	`Blackvel`	`haha`
`09:56.16`	`ZX81`	`with a pen`
`09:56.18`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`09:56.22`	`Blackvel`	`you are sooo funny ;)`
`09:56.23`	`Mike_TK`	`You can remark it with firewall`
`09:56.25`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`09:56.31`	`Mike_TK`	`and set any TOS bits there`
`09:56.34`	`*** join/#asterisk glm2k (~glm2k@rrcs-24-199-11-44.west.biz.rr.com)`
`09:56.35`	`Blackvel`	`i mark the rtp.conf port range`
`09:56.37`	`ZX81`	`do you work by port numbers?`
`09:56.39`	`ZX81`	`right`
`09:56.40`	`ZX81`	`ok`
`09:56.43`	`Blackvel`	`and i am sure that it runs into 1:10`
`09:56.47`	`ZX81`	`yah same as me then effectively`
`09:56.52`	`ZX81`	`ah`
`09:56.55`	`ZX81`	`maybe`
`09:57.07`	`ZX81`	`bittorrent uses ports in that range`
`09:57.20`	`ZX81`	`but only when you have a lot of connections?`
`09:57.26`	`ZX81`	`maybe it starts like 5k earlier`
`09:57.34`	`ZX81`	`and runs into your rtp range`
`09:57.36`	`ZX81`	`?`
`09:57.37`	`ZX81`	`maybe`
`09:57.49`	`ZX81`	`you couuld try shifting your rtp ports higher`
`09:57.59`	`tessier_`	`hmmm`
`09:58.14`	`ZX81`	`cos you have no control over bittorent's ports`
`09:58.18`	`tessier_`	`I am enabling DISA on this system and I want to be able to bill the outgoing call separately since they could call into a different rate zone...`
`09:58.29`	`tessier_`	`Do I want resetcdr with the w option or do I want forkcdr...`
`09:58.32`	`ZX81`	`it would probably use above 10000 for unregistered service`
`09:58.53`	`ZX81`	`forkcdr makes two copies of the entry`
`09:58.53`	`tessier_`	`I want a cdr ticking for the initial dial-in (since it's on an 800 number) and I want a cdr ticking for the outgoing call since it can be long distance.`
`09:59.08`	`Blackvel`	`as long as i had seen i have control over bittorrent ports`
`09:59.11`	`ZX81`	`yeah forkcdr sounds closest match`
`09:59.13`	`tessier_`	`Right, starting from the time of the forkcdr call`
`09:59.17`	`tessier_`	`Cool.`
`09:59.19`	`ZX81`	`Blackvel: ok`
`09:59.21`	`tessier_`	`That's what I am thinking too.`
`09:59.27`	`Blackvel`	`and i can make sure that 5004-5020 is only voip and not p2p`
`09:59.34`	`ZX81`	`Blackvel: so what ports does it use?`
`09:59.42`	`Blackvel`	`ports you setup`
`09:59.50`	`Blackvel`	`hm`
`09:59.59`	`Blackvel`	`but also dynamically assigned ones`
`10:00.00`	`Mike_TK`	`I don't think that changing of ports will change something...`
`10:00.12`	`Blackvel`	`but i can use packet marking per content with l7`
`10:00.16`	`Blackvel`	`but i dont get it running ;))`
`10:00.39`	`Blackvel`	`well i got it working only having voip flowing into 1:10`
`10:00.39`	`ZX81`	`His first bin is chosen based on port...if bittorent puts packets in the same bin, they will effectively screw over his qos`
`10:00.45`	`Blackvel`	`and all other stuff into 1:20-1:50`
`10:00.46`	`Blackvel`	`soooo`
`10:01.08`	`Blackvel`	`there is really some priority on voip 1:10 once htb would work as it should`
`10:01.10`	`ZX81`	`nah dunno...`
`10:01.11`	`Blackvel`	`and i doubt that`
`10:01.13`	`Blackvel`	`;)`
`10:01.24`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:01.36`	`ZX81`	`23 bytes is not much`
`10:01.37`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:01.42`	`Blackvel`	`i need to get my linux back up runing, recompile this linux firmware for my little wlan router and apply some htb patches`
`10:01.50`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`10:02.06`	`ZX81`	`and use IAX!!!!!`
`10:02.07`	`Blackvel`	`RaYmAn-Bx: i believe as long as you would recreate the qdiscs`
`10:02.09`	`ZX81`	`1 PORT!`
`10:02.10`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:02.29`	`Blackvel`	`you cant rely with IAX to most of the voip providers`
`10:02.33`	`Blackvel`	`relay`
`10:02.41`	`ZX81`	`I don't need to connect to most of them`
`10:02.44`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`I have an idea my QoS might not be entirely working atm :>`
`10:02.47`	`ZX81`	`only a few`
`10:02.51`	`ZX81`	`ok`
`10:02.53`	`Mike_TK`	`Do most of providers use asterisk :)??`
`10:02.58`	`ZX81`	`no`
`10:03.00`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`only the default Queue increased when making a testcall`
`10:03.00`	`Blackvel`	`some`
`10:03.02`	`ZX81`	`some do thou`
`10:03.05`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:03.06`	`ZX81`	`gh`
`10:03.10`	`Blackvel`	`but not exclusively`
`10:03.15`	`Blackvel`	`like sipgate uses SER`
`10:03.18`	`ZX81`	`usually with SER`
`10:03.21`	`ZX81`	`shut UP!`
`10:03.23`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:03.34`	`Blackvel`	`tell them, not me :)`
`10:03.34`	`ZX81`	`you're copying my thoughts`
`10:03.37`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:03.38`	`*** join/#asterisk jonas (jonas@jonas.probe-networks.host.freenode)`
`10:04.00`	`*** join/#asterisk shadebob (~shadebob@ll81-134-144-192-81.ll81.iam.net.ma)`
`10:04.22`	`ZX81`	`didn't you get eaten by a whale?`
`10:04.36`	`ZX81`	`or is that jona`
`10:04.36`	`tessier_`	`ZX81: You should wear a tinfoil hat to prevent him from doing that`
`10:04.41`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:04.44`	`ZX81`	`I am`
`10:04.46`	`ZX81`	`...`
`10:04.52`	`ZX81`	`not thick enough`
`10:04.53`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:05.37`	`ZX81`	`can I spam an add?`
`10:05.41`	`ZX81`	`1 line?`
`10:05.55`	`ZX81`	`any objections?`
`10:05.56`	`ZX81`	`3`
`10:05.56`	`ZX81`	`2`
`10:05.57`	`ZX81`	`1`
`10:05.59`	`ZX81`	`~adn`
`10:06.00`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, daily asterisk news is http://www.sineapps.com/news.php for html and http://www.sineapps.com/rssfeed.php for rss`
`10:06.03`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:07.26`	`ZX81`	`anyone running preemtion patch?`
`10:08.34`	`Mike_TK`	`Guys, can someone propose me the way to fix asterisk codec negotiation issue?`
`10:08.42`	`ZX81`	`maybe`
`10:08.44`	`Mike_TK`	`I have to ITSP that have codec preference (like g723, but support g729 too) and asterisk in passthrought mode.`
`10:08.45`	`Mike_TK`	`In outgoing SIP invites, asterisk offer all codecs - g729 and g723.. if g723 on the top - all is fine, but if 729 on the top, than asterisk don't know how to convert codecs and drop a call, but in theory it is able to jump to another codec and use it.`
`10:09.04`	`ZX81`	`disallow=all`
`10:09.09`	`ZX81`	`allow=codec you want`
`10:09.18`	`ZX81`	`inside context in iax.conf or sip.conf`
`10:09.35`	`ZX81`	`not allow=all`
`10:09.41`	`Mike_TK`	`I do it.. I have disallow=all allow=g729 allow=g723`
`10:09.52`	`tessier_`	`Nov 20 02:07:21 WARNING[74464176]: pbx.c:1279 pbx_extension_helper: No application 'ForkCDR' for extension (dustin-outgoing, 6683021, 2)`
`10:09.53`	`tessier_`	`hmmm`
`10:09.54`	`Mike_TK`	`in incoming and outgoing peers`
`10:09.55`	`ZX81`	`do you have g723 and g729?`
`10:10.15`	`Mike_TK`	`I want to use them in passthrought`
`10:10.25`	`Mike_TK`	`I'm not able and don't want to convert`
`10:10.30`	`ZX81`	`ForkCDR(): Causes the Call Data Record to fork an additional`
`10:10.31`	`ZX81`	`cdr record starting from the time of the fork call`
`10:10.36`	`ZX81`	`and where are the calls going?`
`10:10.40`	`ZX81`	`a sip phone?`
`10:10.43`	`ZX81`	`or fxs?`
`10:11.00`	`tessier_`	`exten => _NXXNXXX,1,Monitor(wav,${CALLFILENAME},m)`
`10:11.00`	`tessier_`	`exten => _NXXNXXX,2,ForkCDR()`
`10:11.00`	`tessier_`	`exten => _NXXNXXX,3,Dial(Zap/g1/${EXTEN})`
`10:11.13`	`ZX81`	`running HEAD?`
`10:11.21`	`tessier_`	`no...is that a head only thing?`
`10:11.28`	`ZX81`	`probably`
`10:11.32`	`ZX81`	`its a feature!`
`10:11.33`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:11.45`	`tessier_`	`hmm`
`10:11.51`	`tessier_`	`it doesn't show up in "show applications" from the cli`
`10:11.52`	`tessier_`	`bah`
`10:11.58`	`tessier_`	`Version information`
`10:11.58`	`tessier_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:12.06`	`tessier_`	`I read that but thought it was some sort of joke`
`10:12.13`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:12.47`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:15.02`	`Mike_TK`	`So, no suggestions?`
`10:15.13`	`Mike_TK`	`I thought maybe someone had problems like this.`
`10:15.29`	`ZX81`	`I asked you some questions`
`10:15.38`	`ZX81`	`they were:`
`10:15.44`	`ZX81`	`what is the other endpoint?`
`10:15.51`	`ZX81`	`does it have g729 or g723?`
`10:16.01`	`ZX81`	`i.e. your phone=?`
`10:16.06`	`ZX81`	`fxs/sip`
`10:16.11`	`Mike_TK`	`Yes`
`10:16.14`	`Mike_TK`	`It have`
`10:16.16`	`tessier_`	`heh`
`10:16.19`	`tessier_`	`Yes!`
`10:16.22`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:16.30`	`ZX81`	`Ok.`
`10:16.30`	`tessier_`	`At least he's sure`
`10:16.35`	`ZX81`	`indeed`
`10:16.48`	`ZX81`	`what error do you get`
`10:16.52`	`ZX81`	`gimme a pastebin`
`10:16.58`	`ZX81`	`~pastebin`
`10:17.02`	`jbot`	`pastebin is, like, a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca`
`10:17.32`	`tessier_`	`damn...select * from cdr was a big mistake on this box.`
`10:17.38`	`ZX81`	`lol`
`10:17.48`	`ZX81`	`how many records?`
`10:17.54`	`tessier_`	`oh, a few....`
`10:17.58`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:18.04`	`ZX81`	`with 10 where clauses?`
`10:18.06`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:18.16`	`tessier_`	`25,000 records. Not all that many.`
`10:18.22`	`tessier_`	`er...`
`10:18.24`	`ZX81`	`not too bad`
`10:18.24`	`tessier_`	`25,000 records. Not all that many.`
`10:18.27`	`tessier_`	`weird`
`10:18.29`	`tessier_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:18.40`	`tessier_`	`xchat does something funny with I start a line with 5,`
`10:18.47`	`tessier_`	`er..with 25,`
`10:18.52`	`ZX81`	`I had some seriously funky shit going on when I tried to load 500,000 records into my PHP stat tracker script`
`10:19.00`	`tessier_`	`I bet`
`10:19.30`	`ZX81`	`then I found this mysql_to_array or some such...sped it up like 10 fold`
`10:19.47`	`ZX81`	`then I realised I didn't really need all data from every record`
`10:19.48`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:20.01`	`ZX81`	`count() with some nice clauses works wonders!`
`10:20.02`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:20.14`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`it seems a bit dangerous to load 500,000 into memory :P`
`10:20.30`	`ZX81`	`:-) yah`
`10:20.32`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`at least if it's a more-than-one-user webpage :P`
`10:20.39`	`ZX81`	`lol`
`10:20.49`	`ZX81`	`luckily it wasn't`
`10:21.05`	`ZX81`	`although I probably took down the daily asterisk news a few times while checking the stats`
`10:21.08`	`ZX81`	`lol`
`10:21.11`	`ZX81`	`better now`
`10:21.12`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:21.21`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`heh`
`10:21.50`	`ZX81`	`Mike_TK: you there`
`10:22.38`	`tessier_`	`hmmm`
`10:22.47`	`tessier_`	`Do CDR's not get generated for incoming calls? It would seem not...`
`10:22.51`	`ZX81`	`ah well maybe he's getting error messages`
`10:22.55`	`ZX81`	`?`
`10:22.58`	`ZX81`	`they should do`
`10:23.00`	`ZX81`	`no`
`10:23.03`	`ZX81`	`yes`
`10:23.05`	`ZX81`	`they do`
`10:23.13`	`ZX81`	`because a call goes somewhere`
`10:23.39`	`CoderCR`	`hey i have a questions. I saw in the voicemail for operator option to press 0.`
`10:23.51`	`*** join/#asterisk shadebob (~shadebob@ll81-134-144-192-81.ll81.iam.net.ma)`
`10:23.52`	`ZX81`	`"","6434555770","2","external","6434555770","Zap/25-1","Zap/11-1","Dial","ZAP/11r4\|40\|m","2004-11-20 16:56:52","2004-11-20 16:56:52","2004-11-20 16:57:38",46,46,"ANSWERED","DOCUMENTATION"`
`10:23.56`	`ZX81`	`yep they do`
`10:23.58`	`CoderCR`	`oops i mean allow a person to press 0 while in voicemail to try and get to an operator`
`10:24.01`	`ZX81`	`CoderCR: yup`
`10:24.11`	`CoderCR`	`how does the system know who the operator is?`
`10:24.24`	`ZX81`	`you have to define o,1,etc`
`10:24.28`	`CoderCR`	`i need to setup an operator station for a client`
`10:24.29`	`ZX81`	`I think, just a sec`
`10:24.40`	`CoderCR`	`o`
`10:24.41`	`CoderCR`	`okay`
`10:24.45`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`10:24.49`	`CoderCR`	`o,1 is for operator :)`
`10:24.54`	`tessier_`	`hmm...when I dial in and then hit the extension for the DISA the outgoing call for the DISA overwrites the cdr generated by the incoming call.`
`10:24.54`	`ZX81`	`If the caller presses '0' (zero) during the prompt, the call jumps to`
`10:24.55`	`ZX81`	`extension 'o' in the current context.`
`10:25.11`	`*** part/#asterisk shadebob (~shadebob@ll81-134-144-192-81.ll81.iam.net.ma)`
`10:25.12`	`CoderCR`	`so if o is set in any context you can dial 0 for operator during any menu`
`10:25.18`	`ZX81`	`is it not the same call?`
`10:25.23`	`ZX81`	`tessier_: ?`
`10:25.34`	`CoderCR`	`ZX81 thanks very much`
`10:25.38`	`ZX81`	`CoderCR: has to be effectively the same context`
`10:25.40`	`tessier_`	`Yes, I suppose it is.`
`10:25.42`	`ZX81`	`all good`
`10:25.54`	`CoderCR`	`last question. should i make a call queue and an agent number for the operator?`
`10:25.55`	`tessier_`	`I need to backport forkcdr I think`
`10:25.56`	`ZX81`	`tessier_: so what is the source?`
`10:26.02`	`ZX81`	`do you have caller id?`
`10:26.25`	`tessier_`	`the src column on the cdr is empty`
`10:26.32`	`tessier_`	`I do have caller id delivery on this PRI though`
`10:26.39`	`ZX81`	`does it work?`
`10:26.44`	`tessier_`	`yep`
`10:26.52`	`ZX81`	`so yup`
`10:26.57`	`CoderCR`	`ZX81: last question. should i make a call queue and an agent number for the operator?`
`10:26.58`	`ZX81`	`disa must reset it`
`10:27.23`	`tessier_`	`I guess I need forkcdr because the incoming call is on an 800 number`
`10:27.26`	`ZX81`	`if you want more than one operator and you want them in a queue`
`10:27.30`	`ZX81`	`tessier_: yeah`
`10:27.42`	`tessier_`	`So I need to bill the inbound 800 and the outbound ld call separately`
`10:27.47`	`ZX81`	`CoderCR: or you could dial (sip/fred&sip/bob&sip/mary)`
`10:27.54`	`ZX81`	`tessier_: right`
`10:27.58`	`*** join/#asterisk shadebob (~shadebob@ll81-134-144-192-81.ll81.iam.net.ma)`
`10:28.05`	`ZX81`	`tessier_: yeah you'll prolly need to backport`
`10:28.16`	`ZX81`	`tessier_: or get drumkilla to :-)`
`10:28.32`	`CoderCR`	`ZX81: what is you have 3 people try and contact the operator at one time. will they go to the operator voicemail if the operator is on another line?`
`10:28.50`	`tessier_`	`I'll see if app_forkcdr compiles fairly easily in stable and if turns into a big mess I'll see if drumkilla can help me out`
`10:29.03`	`ZX81`	`if you define 0,102,Voicemail(sum1)`
`10:29.14`	`ZX81`	`or is it 101`
`10:29.18`	`ZX81`	`I can never remember`
`10:29.22`	`ZX81`	`+101 I think`
`10:29.26`	`ZX81`	`so stupid`
`10:29.28`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:29.31`	`ZX81`	`me=`
`10:29.35`	`CoderCR`	`ZX81: or else i will just keep rining till it times out.... well i guess i will make a call queue to tell the person the operator will be with them as soon as posible`
`10:29.44`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`10:29.55`	`CoderCR`	`102 is busy`
`10:30.14`	`ZX81`	`yeah`
`10:30.19`	`CoderCR`	`unless it was changed`
`10:30.20`	`ZX81`	`and +1 for timed out`
`10:30.25`	`ZX81`	`no thats right`
`10:30.39`	`ZX81`	`but will only get to +1 if you give it a time value`
`10:30.43`	`ZX81`	`is it+1?`
`10:30.45`	`CoderCR`	`if it times out it goes to the next`
`10:30.50`	`ZX81`	`yeah`
`10:30.53`	`ZX81`	`i.e. +1`
`10:31.09`	`CoderCR`	`yeah`
`10:31.20`	`CoderCR`	`well i need to get to sleep`
`10:31.24`	`CoderCR`	`thanks for the info`
`10:31.27`	`ZX81`	`11:30 here`
`10:31.30`	`CoderCR`	`take care of yourself`
`10:31.30`	`ZX81`	`no prob`
`10:31.33`	`ZX81`	`you too`
`10:31.33`	`CoderCR`	`2:30am here`
`10:31.36`	`ZX81`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:31.39`	`ZX81`	`hehe`
`10:31.48`	`CoderCR`	`night all`
`10:31.53`	`*** part/#asterisk CoderCR (~creyna@ip68-8-11-127.sd.sd.cox.net)`
`10:31.54`	`ZX81`	`night`
`10:32.12`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`ZX81 , that's actually a neat idea :>`
`10:32.21`	`ZX81`	`that smbclient to winpop is so cool`
`10:32.28`	`ZX81`	`I need to do a table map`
`10:32.35`	`ZX81`	`so it sends to the right computer`
`10:32.40`	`ZX81`	`depending on who is being called`
`10:32.49`	`ZX81`	`at the moment they all come to me`
`10:32.59`	`tessier_`	`awesome`
`10:33.09`	`ZX81`	`so simple ay?`
`10:33.12`	`tessier_`	`It is so nice to finally be able to do cool stuff with the dialplan`
`10:33.17`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`10:33.20`	`tessier_`	`And soon I will be doing even cooler stuff.`
`10:33.23`	`ZX81`	`same`
`10:33.27`	`ZX81`	`learning slowly`
`10:33.40`	`Mike_TK`	`ZX81: I created pasterbin report with my sip.conf and asterisk -vvvgc with sip debug`
`10:33.49`	`ZX81`	`cool`
`10:33.52`	`Mike_TK`	`ZX81: http://pastebin.ca/2201`
`10:33.59`	`ZX81`	`ok gimme a sec`
`10:34.41`	`tessier_`	`No kidding. I have been playing with * since February`
`10:35.16`	`ZX81`	`strange, martin-out seems to be using ulaw`
`10:35.20`	`ZX81`	`just a sec`
`10:35.30`	`tessier_`	`So 9 months.`
`10:35.30`	`Mike_TK`	`No, it don't`
`10:35.34`	`ZX81`	`I know`
`10:35.36`	`tessier_`	`That's one heck of a learning curve`
`10:35.42`	`ZX81`	`but the codec 1 is ulaw no?`
`10:35.50`	`ZX81`	`ah no`
`10:35.53`	`ZX81`	`g723.1`
`10:35.55`	`Mike_TK`	`no.. it 723`
`10:35.59`	`ZX81`	`ah`
`10:36.03`	`ZX81`	`found your prob`
`10:36.09`	`ZX81`	`one is using g723`
`10:36.13`	`ZX81`	`one is using g729`
`10:36.16`	`Mike_TK`	`yeh.`
`10:36.19`	`ZX81`	`asterisk cannot translate`
`10:36.19`	`Mike_TK`	`exactly`
`10:36.24`	`ZX81`	`you need them to both use the same`
`10:36.37`	`Mike_TK`	`They both support`
`10:36.37`	`ZX81`	`so either remove allow=g723.1 or`
`10:36.45`	`ZX81`	`remove allow=g729`
`10:36.57`	`ZX81`	`remove from both entries in sip.conf yeah`
`10:37.07`	`Mike_TK`	`you see... martin-out support 723 and 729`
`10:37.15`	`Mike_TK`	`but select 723 as topcodec.`
`10:37.16`	`ZX81`	`make it only support one`
`10:37.23`	`ZX81`	`doesn't matter`
`10:37.27`	`ZX81`	`make it support 1`
`10:37.40`	`Mike_TK`	`I know... but it not acceptable to me.`
`10:37.56`	`ZX81`	`lol then buy licences`
`10:38.09`	`ZX81`	`or go to www.readytechnology.co.uk if your a hax0r`
`10:38.19`	`ZX81`	`*you're`
`10:38.33`	`Mike_TK`	`I sure there is another way.`
`10:39.02`	`ZX81`	`swap the order of martin-out`
`10:39.07`	`ZX81`	`try`
`10:39.16`	`ZX81`	`i.e. 729 first then 723`
`10:39.27`	`Mike_TK`	`I tried... i spent like 2 weeks with it`
`10:39.29`	`Mike_TK`	`:)`
`10:39.32`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:39.37`	`Mike_TK`	`For example... if in outgoing call to martin-out i will put only jontcapabilitycodec`
`10:39.43`	`ZX81`	`then either use one codec or buy a licence to translate`
`10:39.51`	`ZX81`	`what else uses g723?!`
`10:40.02`	`Mike_TK`	`Where i can buy licence for 723 codec?`
`10:40.04`	`Mike_TK`	`:)`
`10:40.06`	`ZX81`	`lol`
`10:40.09`	`ZX81`	`it's like 100,000`
`10:40.16`	`ZX81`	`a little too much for me`
`10:40.29`	`ZX81`	`just use 1`
`10:40.35`	`ZX81`	`why do you need both?`
`10:40.36`	`Mike_TK`	`So cheep..? I thought it few millons`
`10:40.40`	`ZX81`	`maybe I dunno`
`10:40.46`	`ZX81`	`just some price above my range`
`10:40.47`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:40.52`	`Mike_TK`	`I do dirty hack`
`10:41.02`	`ZX81`	`which is`
`10:41.14`	`Mike_TK`	`I have 3 asterisk runned`
`10:41.24`	`Mike_TK`	`for 723 729 GSM codecs`
`10:41.36`	`Mike_TK`	`and ser on the front`
`10:41.39`	`ZX81`	`ok`
`10:42.00`	`ZX81`	`so just have one allow= one each box`
`10:42.07`	`ZX81`	`*on`
`10:42.10`	`Mike_TK`	`Yes`
`10:42.18`	`Mike_TK`	`On ser I use search and look into SDP body for codec definition... if I find for example 723 i send it to 723 asterisk`
`10:42.29`	`ZX81`	`and from there?`
`10:42.38`	`ZX81`	`you can't use any of asterisk's features...`
`10:42.48`	`ZX81`	`cept dialing a 723 phone`
`10:43.01`	`Mike_TK`	`if i see definition of gsm or 729 i send it to another asterisk`
`10:43.28`	`ZX81`	`but then you should buy licences and you will be able to use asterisk fully, not just on th gsm box`
`10:43.38`	`ZX81`	`well..cept for 723`
`10:45.21`	`Mike_TK`	`It will not fix my problems... if i buy 729 license, than i need to recode from 729 to gsm`
`10:45.29`	`Mike_TK`	`And you know... it's very bad...`
`10:45.47`	`Mike_TK`	`Sure if you are not masochist`
`10:45.49`	`Mike_TK`	`:)`
`10:46.05`	`ZX81`	`so you don't use voicemail, musiconhold, conferencing etc`
`10:46.26`	`Mike_TK`	`How i see fixing of this problem. it's durty but it should work.`
`10:46.39`	`Mike_TK`	`No, currency I use asterisk as b2bua`
`10:46.44`	`ZX81`	`ok`
`10:46.56`	`Mike_TK`	`but sure i will buy some 729 licences`
`10:46.57`	`tessier_`	`Mike_TK: In what way are you using it as a b2bua?`
`10:47.04`	`*** join/#asterisk CleanerX (~nix@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de)`
`10:47.04`	`*** join/#asterisk kyaw_thu (Ra@bb220-255-194-33.singnet.com.sg)`
`10:47.08`	`Mike_TK`	`Because there is no alternative`
`10:47.16`	`Mike_TK`	`free alternative`
`10:47.26`	`tessier_`	`I had never heard of a b2bua until a couple weeks ago and now it's popping up everywhere`
`10:47.28`	`tessier_`	`Funny how that works.`
`10:47.35`	`ZX81`	`lol yah`
`10:47.40`	`kyaw_thu`	`anybody can do customized asterisk?`
`10:47.48`	`tessier_`	`kyaw_thu: yep, it's open source`
`10:47.56`	`Mike_TK`	`I wrote some radius module for asterisk`
`10:48.20`	`Mike_TK`	`and use it as b2bua`
`10:48.22`	`kyaw_thu`	`I am looking for Asterisk for callback`
`10:48.31`	`kyaw_thu`	`if anyone help me do that, pm me plz`
`10:48.48`	`Mike_TK`	`so... i see fixing of my problem this way:`
`10:48.49`	`tessier_`	`Mike_TK: You mean you run all of your call traffic through asterisk and it does your billing etc right?`
`10:48.57`	`Mike_TK`	`yes`
`10:49.00`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:49.03`	`Mike_TK`	`I have call length limitation there`
`10:49.06`	`tessier_`	`Well then you the man`
`10:49.12`	`tessier_`	`Call length limitation?`
`10:49.21`	`ZX81`	`can't talk over 30 seconds`
`10:49.22`	`tessier_`	`Is that something you intentionally impose or a problem you are trying to solve?`
`10:49.22`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:49.24`	`Mike_TK`	`yeh - call timeout from radius etc etc`
`10:49.35`	`tessier_`	`SetAbsoluteTimeout()`
`10:49.38`	`ZX81`	`like calling cards`
`10:49.51`	`ZX81`	`or pre-pay model`
`10:50.00`	`Mike_TK`	`yes, pre-pay`
`10:50.12`	`ZX81`	`post-pay is always better if you can trust your customers - they'll spend more that way`
`10:50.16`	`ZX81`	`ah ok`
`10:50.19`	`ZX81`	`cc is diff`
`10:50.21`	`ZX81`	`cool`
`10:50.24`	`*** join/#asterisk macTijn (martijn@linda.net.insecure.nl)`
`10:51.42`	`Mike_TK`	`ok... what i want todo. patching chan_sip.c, so in outgoing invite i will put only jointcapability codec... this should fix my problem, I hope :)`
`10:51.55`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`10:52.01`	`ZX81`	`or...`
`10:52.12`	`ZX81`	`yeah nah thats best`
`10:52.39`	`ZX81`	`why doesn't each box only support one codec?`
`10:52.54`	`ZX81`	`then SER will route to it...`
`10:53.15`	`tessier_`	`wow, nobody provided a decent answer to my question about routing calls between different network interfaces on the mailing list...`
`10:53.31`	`ZX81`	`when did you post?`
`10:53.39`	`tessier_`	`yesterday`
`10:53.43`	`ZX81`	`dev or users?`
`10:53.47`	`tessier_`	`users`
`10:53.54`	`tessier_`	`Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 05:37:27 -0800`
`10:53.54`	`tessier_`	`From: Tracy R Reed <treed@copilotconsulting.com>`
`10:53.59`	`tessier_`	`Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Routing between different interfaces`
`10:54.04`	`ZX81`	`:-) ah it's you`
`10:54.06`	`ZX81`	`lol`
`10:54.09`	`tessier_`	`That's me.`
`10:54.11`	`ZX81`	`you use friggin pgp`
`10:54.15`	`tessier_`	`Yep!`
`10:54.16`	`ZX81`	`takes my pc for ever`
`10:54.17`	`ZX81`	`lol`
`10:54.19`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:54.32`	`tessier_`	`Glad I make an impression. :)`
`10:54.36`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:54.51`	`ZX81`	`Maybe you posted it in reply to an existing thread?`
`10:55.07`	`ZX81`	`You need to start a mail with the compose button and put the address in`
`10:55.16`	`tessier_`	`No, I started a new thread. That subject line is a reply to someone who suggested I look at canreinvite=no`
`10:55.20`	`ZX81`	`I'm Matt Riddell`
`10:55.20`	`tessier_`	`I know how to start a new mail. :)`
`10:55.25`	`ZX81`	`lol`
`10:55.38`	`ZX81`	`I meant as opposed to replying and changing subject`
`10:55.41`	`tessier_`	`I've been on the net for 15 years, I damn well better. :)`
`10:55.50`	`ZX81`	`:-P`
`10:55.52`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`10:56.04`	`tessier_`	`Wow, that's half of my life...I just turned 30...`
`10:56.10`	`ZX81`	`:-) me 27`
`10:56.19`	`ZX81`	`28 in April`
`10:57.18`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`10:57.22`	`ZX81`	`see it now`
`11:00.54`	`ZX81`	`fromaddr maybe?`
`11:00.54`	`ZX81`	`nope`
`11:00.54`	`ZX81`	`have you tried fromuser and fromdomain`
`11:00.54`	`ZX81`	`in sip.conf`
`11:00.54`	`tessier_`	`externip might work in this case since all of my sip origination traffic is going to the same place`
`11:00.54`	`ZX81`	`yah or extenip`
`11:00.55`	`ZX81`	`day changed`
`11:00.55`	`ZX81`	`wow so is it tomorrow now`
`11:00.55`	`ZX81`	`wow I thought I never get to tomorrow`
`11:00.55`	`ZX81`	`where is today now?`
`11:00.55`	`ZX81`	`and what comes the day after .... tomorrow?`
`11:00.55`	`ZX81`	`hmmmmm`
`11:01.14`	`tessier_`	`I need to look at res_data next...`
`11:01.19`	`ZX81`	`yah same`
`11:01.30`	`tessier_`	`Only thing it seems to lack is management of meetme`
`11:01.32`	`ZX81`	`and app_realtime`
`11:01.43`	`ZX81`	`yah`
`11:01.46`	`ZX81`	`I dunno`
`11:01.50`	`ZX81`	`I don't use meetme`
`11:01.53`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`11:02.11`	`tessier_`	`res_data renders app_realtime irrelevant I think...`
`11:02.19`	`tessier_`	`or do they go together?`
`11:02.39`	`ZX81`	`Use the RealTime config handler system to read data into channel variables.`
`11:02.39`	`ZX81`	`RealTime(<family>\|<colmatch>\|<value>[\|<prefix>])`
`11:02.39`	`ZX81`	`All unique column names will be set as channel variables with optional prefix to the name.`
`11:02.42`	`ZX81`	`e.g. prefix of 'var_' would make the column 'name' become the variable ${var_name}`
`11:03.03`	`ZX81`	`so realtime for variables`
`11:03.12`	`ZX81`	`~res_data`
`11:03.59`	`tessier_`	`app_realtime lets you put variables (ie. not config items) into a mysql db to be accessed from the dialplan?`
`11:04.06`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`11:04.10`	`tessier_`	`I see. Cool.`
`11:05.33`	`ZX81`	`jbot res_data is http://svn.asteriskdocs.org/res_data/ast_data/README.txt - Basically a way to store your confs in databases instead of .conf files - also means you don't need to keep doing reloads`
`11:05.35`	`jbot`	`okay, ZX81`
`11:05.40`	`ZX81`	`~res_data`
`11:05.42`	`jbot`	`it has been said that res_data is http://svn.asteriskdocs.org/res_data/ast_data/README.txt - Basically a way to store your confs in databases instead of .conf files - also means you don't need to keep doing reloads`
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`11:05.57`	`ZX81`	`~app_realtime`
`11:06.55`	`tessier_`	`http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-users@lists.digium.com/msg58076.html`
`11:07.06`	`tessier_`	`That makes app_realtime seem the same as res_data`
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`11:08.19`	`serdiehard`	`i want to save the ngrep results to file can any body tell how to do that`
`11:10.07`	`tessier_`	`ngrep foo file > results`
`11:10.27`	`tessier_`	`if ngrep is some grep variant that you run from the shell`
`11:11.08`	`ZX81`	`~res_config`
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`11:11.30`	`ZX81`	`jbot res_config is http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=174`
`11:11.31`	`jbot`	`ZX81: okay`
`11:11.49`	`tessier_`	`res_config is not real time so it seems like that is least preferable...`
`11:11.57`	`ZX81`	`yup`
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`11:12.04`	`tessier_`	`I am still looking for the difference between app_realtime and res_data`
`11:12.12`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`11:12.19`	`zoa`	`res_data is not realtime`
`11:12.27`	`tessier_`	`Looks like people are converting lots of stuff to work with realtime`
`11:12.35`	`tessier_`	`res_data does not require a reload as I understand it`
`11:13.00`	`tessier_`	`which would make it realtime in how it works`
`11:13.12`	`tessier_`	`having another app called realtime is confusing`
`11:13.25`	`*** join/#asterisk abbas_ (nidobas@203.81.221.3)`
`11:14.38`	`abbas_`	`hi`
`11:14.51`	`abbas_`	`is anybdy there who can call me on my US number?`
`11:15.12`	`abbas_`	`~call me`
`11:15.14`	`jbot`	`ACTION looks around and then screams out abbas_ as loudly as possible`
`11:15.32`	`ZX81`	`linux*CLI> lol`
`11:15.32`	`ZX81`	`No such command 'lol' (type 'help' for help)`
`11:15.37`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`11:15.46`	`abbas_`	`hahaha`
`11:15.51`	`ZX81`	`msg me number`
`11:16.20`	`abbas_`	`in pvt message`
`11:17.32`	`ZX81`	`person is currently unavailable`
`11:17.35`	`ZX81`	`leave a message`
`11:17.37`	`ZX81`	`left`
`11:18.07`	`abbas_`	`oh ok`
`11:18.14`	`abbas_`	`just a minute`
`11:18.33`	`abbas_`	`try now pls`
`11:18.47`	`abbas_`	`ringing`
`11:18.50`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`11:18.51`	`abbas_`	`i m gonna atttend`
`11:18.54`	`ZX81`	`k`
`11:19.36`	`ZX81`	`cool`
`11:19.38`	`abbas_`	`thanks dear`
`11:19.42`	`ZX81`	`sweet as`
`11:19.49`	`abbas_`	`where r u from ?`
`11:19.52`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`11:19.54`	`ZX81`	`New Zealand`
`11:19.57`	`abbas_`	`NZ`
`11:20.02`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`11:20.03`	`abbas_`	`hmm i m from Pakistan`
`11:20.07`	`ZX81`	`cool`
`11:20.17`	`abbas_`	`what do u do`
`11:20.18`	`ZX81`	`I have a friend in Pakistan now 2`
`11:20.21`	`ZX81`	`B4`
`11:20.24`	`ZX81`	`I run sineapps`
`11:20.27`	`ZX81`	`~adn`
`11:20.28`	`jbot`	`daily asterisk news is probably http://www.sineapps.com/news.php for html and http://www.sineapps.com/rssfeed.php for rss`
`11:20.42`	`abbas_`	`oh great`
`11:20.45`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`11:21.01`	`abbas_`	`u r expert:) i m not who is ur friend in Pak ?`
`11:21.05`	`ZX81`	`B4`
`11:21.12`	`ZX81`	`~seen B4`
`11:21.13`	`jbot`	`b4 <~B4@202.69.49.20> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 5h 21m 50s ago, saying: 'hmmm Moc I never reached the 4Gig limit on my files so no idea'.`
`11:21.33`	`abbas_`	`hmm`
`11:21.36`	`abbas_`	`dont know`
`11:21.42`	`abbas_`	`where is he from ?`
`11:21.49`	`abbas_`	`i mean city if u know`
`11:21.56`	`ZX81`	`Mudassir Khan`
`11:22.00`	`ZX81`	`dunno`
`11:22.04`	`ZX81`	`can't remember`
`11:22.05`	`ZX81`	`:_)`
`11:22.08`	`abbas_`	`hmm i m from Lahore`
`11:22.17`	`ZX81`	`Karachi`
`11:22.23`	`ZX81`	`cool`
`11:22.37`	`abbas_`	`ur name ?`
`11:22.41`	`ZX81`	`Matt Riddell`
`11:22.58`	`abbas_`	`mine is Abbas`
`11:23.04`	`ZX81`	`cool nice to meet you`
`11:23.12`	`abbas_`	`same here`
`11:23.45`	`abbas_`	`brb`
`11:23.48`	`ZX81`	`k`
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