| 00:00.03 | implicit | LOL |
| 00:00.03 | fearnor | eh? |
| 00:00.09 | fearnor | sure, pay for PRI and backhaul |
| 00:00.16 | |Vulture| | don't laugh :P |
| 00:00.23 | |Vulture| | oky nvm |
| 00:00.25 | implicit | laughing at 60 hudson comment |
| 00:00.28 | fearnor | serious answer, yes, but its expensive. |
| 00:00.39 | |Vulture| | oky |
| 00:01.07 | fearnor | "bitch if there was a single lit fucking building on the east coast, it would be 60 fucking hudson" |
| 00:01.07 | implicit | how the hell can someone be working in telecom and say 'let me check if 60 hudson is lit' lol |
| 00:01.22 | paulc | Newbie! |
| 00:01.30 | moonwick | haha |
| 00:01.42 | moonwick | oh, that 60 hudson! |
| 00:01.53 | implicit | lol |
| 00:03.18 | km- | I've been in 60 hudson |
| 00:03.29 | implicit | many people have ;) |
| 00:03.39 | km- | yes, but have you actually run fiber into 60 hudson? :) |
| 00:03.44 | km- | what was the other place... |
| 00:03.45 | implicit | :) |
| 00:03.50 | km- | 8th street? 11th street |
| 00:03.53 | km- | some high rise where XO is |
| 00:04.03 | km- | man their fiber was fucko |
| 00:04.15 | km- | they used MFN for part of the 192 ring |
| 00:04.22 | km- | and MFN just can't figure out anything to save their lives |
| 00:04.42 | fearnor | km: you mean 111 8th. |
| 00:04.47 | fearnor | heh |
| 00:04.47 | km- | Yeah! |
| 00:04.49 | km- | 111 8th |
| 00:04.51 | km- | thats the place |
| 00:04.53 | fearnor | 111 8th pwns joo |
| 00:05.03 | km- | I've spent quite a few days in that building |
| 00:05.27 | km- | back when I worked for ATC we were working on a bunch o' their fibers |
| 00:05.33 | implicit | these places are ugly as hell |
| 00:05.42 | km- | I hear fiber has changed a lot since I did it |
| 00:05.47 | implicit | especially 151 front, it is pretty nasty |
| 00:06.06 | km- | same thing for 2400 market in philly and the packard building on broad |
| 00:06.15 | km- | ugly on the outside |
| 00:06.18 | km- | crazy on the inside |
| 00:06.43 | implicit | yeah, shit is all over hte place |
| 00:06.52 | implicit | :) |
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| 00:07.18 | implicit | people are going insane and paying a shitload of money for it |
| 00:07.41 | km- | what I cant imagine is, there's all these dark fibers, why keep running more? |
| 00:08.26 | km- | if you've got the good-quality long haul SM already laid, utilize that damn existing framework before running a whole nother 92+ |
| 00:08.47 | km- | so many friggin dark fibers in these crazy ass trunks, the only light that's only been seen on them has been from the tester's OTDR |
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| 00:12.40 | km- | I'm gettin outta here, later dudes |
| 00:12.57 | neopher | Anyone here useing asterisk management portal |
| 00:15.17 | greg_work | neopher: yes |
| 00:15.57 | neopher | i have a prob, it was woriking fine for a sec. now it won't update the configs |
| 00:16.20 | neopher | specificly sip_additional.conf |
| 00:18.09 | hermie | fearnor: I got a question that I think is right up your alley |
| 00:18.27 | greg_work | neopher: check ownership on that file |
| 00:19.17 | neopher | hmm, good though, brb |
| 00:19.56 | cuban | brb |
| 00:20.01 | cuban | brb |
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| 00:26.32 | hermie | how much does it cost to lease fiber? |
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| 00:28.58 | eKo1 | Depends where you are in the world. |
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| 00:30.50 | fearnor | hermie: depends ;) |
| 00:31.05 | fearnor | depends where depends how far etc |
| 00:31.26 | fearnor | on a popular metro route you might get a pair for 2k$/mo |
| 00:32.06 | neopher | greg_work: it's owned by asterisk, i deleted the file and did an update, it appears it is updating but trunkating |
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| 00:39.12 | hermie | fearnor: it's just 10 miles, but I think that's more than my customer would want to pay |
| 00:39.31 | hermie | fearnor: I might just talk them into running their own in a year or two |
| 00:39.41 | eKo1 | Can you wireless? |
| 00:39.58 | eKo1 | I mean, can you go wireless? |
| 00:40.11 | hermie | eKo1: probably not... and I want to be able to do gigabit/10 gigabit |
| 00:40.41 | eKo1 | Then fiber it is. |
| 00:40.47 | hermie | I figure long term they'll save by forking out and running their own... it's not _that_ expensive |
| 00:41.05 | hermie | since we'll be able to poll it most of the way |
| 00:41.19 | eKo1 | On poles? |
| 00:41.23 | yashax | In VOICEMAIL.CONF, How can I send e-mail notification to 2+ e-mail addresses? |
| 00:41.27 | hermie | eKo1: yup |
| 00:41.33 | eKo1 | ugh, poles suck. |
| 00:41.39 | eKo1 | Burry them. |
| 00:41.53 | eKo1 | the fiber that is. |
| 00:42.00 | hermie | eKo1: this isn't an ISP :) |
| 00:42.14 | hermie | eKo1: polls are cheaper to run and cheaper to repair |
| 00:42.25 | hermie | eKo1: and less likely to get hoed |
| 00:42.41 | eKo1 | Eh, how can they be cheaper than digging? |
| 00:42.46 | Luhiwu | anyone can tell me what does "No authority found" means and how to fix that? |
| 00:43.15 | hermie | eKo1: putting them on other people's poles vs. having to do boring |
| 00:43.24 | hermie | it's a metroish area |
| 00:43.37 | hermie | maybe fearnor has a good $/mi estimate for running on poles :) |
| 00:43.53 | hermie | it's been about 10 years since I've had to do any |
| 00:44.06 | eKo1 | I live in where everything is run through poles. You should she the snake nests we have here. |
| 00:44.23 | eKo1 | I'm suprised it all works. |
| 00:44.35 | eKo1 | Just horrible. |
| 00:44.43 | hermie | poles aren't _too_ bad around here |
| 00:45.16 | eKo1 | And one day, a hurricane will come and I will say bye bye to those poles. |
| 00:46.17 | eKo1 | Actually, the biggest risk of poles is having people steal the rung cables. |
| 00:47.52 | hermie | like on cable trays??? |
| 00:48.03 | ariel_ | eKo1, hurricanes have come and gone here and the poles are still around. |
| 00:48.26 | eKo1 | hermie: no, the either break the pole or climb up and get them. |
| 00:48.33 | eKo1 | ariel_: In florida? |
| 00:48.54 | ariel_ | yes |
| 00:49.19 | hermie | eKo1: never had that happen on any of our poles at the old job... |
| 00:49.51 | ariel_ | poles live even in hurricanes here. It's the items attached to them that don't. |
| 00:49.53 | eKo1 | ariel_: Not all of them, I've seen the mess poles have caused in florida. |
| 00:50.26 | ariel_ | eKo1, I was here during Andrew and yes it took some poles but most of them were just fine. |
| 00:50.43 | eKo1 | I don't have anything against poles, just don't hang wires from them. |
| 00:51.29 | ariel_ | eKo1, I agree there ugly and well just plain in the way of cars allot. |
| 00:51.51 | eKo1 | ariel_: I don't recall poles being a hazard when I was in florida. |
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| 00:52.33 | ariel_ | They are when your going over 100mph and a kid that does not know how to drive. |
| 00:52.58 | ariel_ | There is at least one car rapping a pole here every other day it seems |
| 00:53.17 | eKo1 | Florida is the state with more car accidents than any other state I think. |
| 00:53.33 | eKo1 | Probably because it's so easy to get a license down there. |
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| 00:54.03 | ariel_ | eKo1, nope it's due to all the flat long roads. |
| 00:54.29 | eKo1 | What's wrong with flat long roads? |
| 00:54.35 | Nugget | they're boring. |
| 00:54.39 | ariel_ | besides most people down here don't know how to drive. |
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| 00:55.09 | eKo1 | Exactly, because they can get their driver's license without much difficulty. |
| 00:55.56 | eKo1 | Well, I'm off. Later. |
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| 00:56.55 | ariel_ | later |
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| 00:58.26 | SAMYO | hi guys |
| 00:58.58 | SAMYO | hello |
| 00:58.59 | fearnor | hermie: i think a number is about 50k$/mile for aerial run |
| 00:59.03 | channan | hello everyone... I have a question regarding Vonage router (linksys router RT31P2) and Asterisk |
| 00:59.05 | fearnor | and 100k$ for direct burial |
| 00:59.25 | ariel_ | SAMYO, hello |
| 00:59.32 | SAMYO | how are you& |
| 00:59.35 | ariel_ | channan, ok just don't use them. |
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| 00:59.50 | channan | it seems like XTen pro running behind Linksys router would not talk to asterisk |
| 00:59.55 | SAMYO | hey guys...I want to do some kind of trick |
| 01:00.07 | channan | ariel- it doesn't work, does it? |
| 01:00.26 | ariel_ | channan, you need to open up the ports 5060 and 10,000 to 20,000 |
| 01:00.31 | channan | because it's locked in with Vonage |
| 01:00.51 | channan | oh. I was thinking about that |
| 01:01.09 | SAMYO | Can I plug my serial modem (us robotics) to ASTERISK? |
| 01:01.17 | Nugget | sure, but it won't do anything. |
| 01:01.32 | channan | ariel_ that's the only thing I have to do to talk to asterisk |
| 01:02.10 | SAMYO | id like to relay my phone modem to asterisk so i could make calls from openphone to my home phone |
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| 01:02.46 | isamar | hi folks |
| 01:04.34 | SAMYO | ok |
| 01:05.26 | SAMYO | sorry for my noob questions.... |
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| 01:05.56 | SAMYO | I really need this thing to work... I pay too much long distance calls |
| 01:06.50 | paradoxical | Can anyone help me with a quick question? |
| 01:06.51 | isamar | anybody using latest oh323 ? |
| 01:06.55 | WGFreewill | yes |
| 01:06.59 | WGFreewill | oh323 |
| 01:07.01 | WGFreewill | chan_h323 |
| 01:07.25 | WGFreewill | They really need to stop claiming that asterisk has h323 support |
| 01:07.41 | paradoxical | I'm trying to get the msg waiting indicator to work... Using a 7960, set the mailbox=someextension argument in the sip.conf file...I leave a voicemail and the light doesn't come on. :-/ |
| 01:08.15 | WGFreewill | paradox: voicemail.conf entries are ok, voicemail works |
| 01:08.19 | WGFreewill | ? |
| 01:08.50 | paradoxical | Yes, voicemail works beautifully. |
| 01:08.52 | isamar | WGFreewill: I agree.. |
| 01:09.06 | isamar | this is not the 1st time I have a problem with h323 |
| 01:09.14 | WGFreewill | I have been able to make it work |
| 01:09.22 | WGFreewill | maybe 10-20 channels |
| 01:09.27 | WGFreewill | oh323 and chan_h323 |
| 01:09.34 | WGFreewill | oh323 always gives me nasty sound |
| 01:09.35 | isamar | it was working with me too |
| 01:09.39 | isamar | until last week |
| 01:09.45 | WGFreewill | chan_h323 gives me random crashes |
| 01:09.53 | isamar | I didn't touch on nothing... and now it gives me: |
| 01:10.09 | isamar | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-January/086219.html |
| 01:10.25 | isamar | the guy who posted that gave up and both a hardware based h323 box |
| 01:10.35 | isamar | both= bought |
| 01:10.45 | WGFreewill | it was working before? what distro/version what version of asterisk/oh323 |
| 01:10.51 | WGFreewill | how many concurrent calls |
| 01:10.59 | isamar | I cannot do 1 call |
| 01:11.09 | isamar | oh323 ver 0.6.3b |
| 01:11.27 | isamar | Asterisk CVS-HEAD-08/24/04-16:32:41 built by root@base on a i686 running Linux |
| 01:11.51 | isamar | currently using SIP and iax2 only |
| 01:11.55 | WGFreewill | its probably a bit to do with cisco |
| 01:11.57 | WGFreewill | i run AS5850 |
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| 01:12.07 | isamar | the guy has a 2600 overthere.. |
| 01:12.18 | WGFreewill | but they need to get this working, or help us in the right direction |
| 01:12.20 | isamar | I think it's his problem too |
| 01:12.34 | WGFreewill | with debian sarge |
| 01:12.45 | isamar | I am avoiding to H323 the problem is that most carriers have cisco and no SIP yet |
| 01:12.50 | isamar | :-( |
| 01:13.00 | WGFreewill | exactly!!!! |
| 01:13.20 | WGFreewill | with debian sarge, and oh323 0.6.5 and cvs-head |
| 01:13.27 | WGFreewill | or 1-0 |
| 01:13.28 | Moc | is head working correctly ? |
| 01:13.37 | isamar | >! |
| 01:13.39 | isamar | ?! |
| 01:13.43 | WGFreewill | I can get about 10 calls |
| 01:13.54 | WGFreewill | but I get audio complaints |
| 01:14.01 | WGFreewill | I have tried 0.7.1 |
| 01:14.15 | isamar | I cannot even compile 0.7.1.. ehehehe |
| 01:14.27 | isamar | WGFreewill: you're a lucky guy |
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| 01:14.32 | WGFreewill | I can get 0.7.1 with head |
| 01:14.36 | WGFreewill | and 0.6.5 with 1-0 |
| 01:14.40 | WGFreewill | both will pass calls |
| 01:14.50 | WGFreewill | but audio suffers |
| 01:15.04 | WGFreewill | chan_h323 |
| 01:15.09 | WGFreewill | I can get to 48 calls |
| 01:15.20 | WGFreewill | ( i think I am limited by the gatekeeper) |
| 01:15.27 | WGFreewill | everything is fine |
| 01:15.37 | WGFreewill | slamming the calls through |
| 01:15.57 | WGFreewill | but in the last days I still get some random crashes |
| 01:16.03 | WGFreewill | where asterisk doesnt core |
| 01:16.04 | WGFreewill | it blocks |
| 01:16.17 | isamar | WGFreewill: to some gateway I get connection only with oh323 with others only with chan_h323 |
| 01:16.26 | WGFreewill | http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0003643 |
| 01:16.39 | WGFreewill | all cisco |
| 01:16.45 | WGFreewill | what kind of gateways |
| 01:16.57 | isamar | gz |
| 01:17.17 | isamar | all cisco |
| 01:17.23 | isamar | 5300 |
| 01:17.24 | WGFreewill | I have nortel cs2k |
| 01:17.27 | WGFreewill | cisco 5850 |
| 01:17.32 | WGFreewill | cisco 5350 |
| 01:17.39 | WGFreewill | Cisco Call Manager 4.1.2 |
| 01:17.43 | Sedorox | hmmmmm |
| 01:17.47 | WGFreewill | 3725 3640 |
| 01:17.59 | isamar | WGFreewill: maybe the carriers are the point |
| 01:18.07 | isamar | WGFreewill: not only chan drivers... |
| 01:18.40 | isamar | WGFreewill: they world are cisco and period... * seems to be an amateur stuff for most of professionals |
| 01:18.52 | WGFreewill | hahahah |
| 01:18.55 | WGFreewill | nothing like that |
| 01:19.04 | WGFreewill | the carriers are waking up |
| 01:19.20 | WGFreewill | trust me |
| 01:19.35 | isamar | WGFreewill: you seems really to be a lucky guy.... |
| 01:19.43 | WGFreewill | no I know some carriers |
| 01:19.50 | isamar | some of carriers I talk to, says: "*, what?" |
| 01:19.56 | WGFreewill | everybody has a little mole hole with people playing with asterisk |
| 01:20.39 | WGFreewill | when you see people like vonage taking market share |
| 01:20.43 | WGFreewill | like its christmas |
| 01:20.44 | isamar | ah!.. you're in florida.. |
| 01:20.52 | WGFreewill | using asterisk in their operation |
| 01:21.13 | isamar | US carriers' land.... :-) |
| 01:21.22 | Qwell | vonage uses *? |
| 01:21.30 | WGFreewill | "asterisk, its not just for non-us carriers anymore" |
| 01:21.36 | WGFreewill | indeed their voicemail is asterisk |
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| 01:21.40 | Qwell | ahh |
| 01:21.43 | WGFreewill | they have submitted many patches |
| 01:22.15 | WGFreewill | I dont know why they picked asterisk |
| 01:22.41 | WGFreewill | probably one of those, 'nobody has anything commercial to rob us with, better go open source' |
| 01:22.55 | WGFreewill | but lets think they picked it on merits and price |
| 01:23.35 | WGFreewill | but that H323 is still in all the old networks |
| 01:23.39 | WGFreewill | like a disease |
| 01:23.54 | WGFreewill | and is needed if not for a good migration worldwide to asterisk |
| 01:24.26 | isamar | yep... here I have chan_h323 and chan_oh323 running at the same time |
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| 01:24.34 | tuxinator_linux | What do you guys feel is the best way to set up a multi-location * system? I have already choosen MPLS for WAN. |
| 01:24.40 | WGFreewill | in any case is it reliable? |
| 01:24.46 | isamar | no |
| 01:24.52 | WGFreewill | exactly |
| 01:24.55 | tuxinator_linux | More specificially, do I need a proxy server at each remote location? |
| 01:24.58 | isamar | But I prefer Manousos than Jerjer |
| 01:25.06 | isamar | :-) |
| 01:25.18 | WGFreewill | tuxinator: you can put the asterisk boxes at the egde in a DMZ, without NAT |
| 01:25.23 | WGFreewill | at each location |
| 01:25.33 | WGFreewill | he at least responded |
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| 01:25.40 | WGFreewill | I had a chat with Jeremy one day |
| 01:25.43 | tuxinator_linux | It will be on a WAN with private addressing |
| 01:25.48 | WGFreewill | gues what his fix was? |
| 01:25.57 | isamar | he responds and does politely |
| 01:26.03 | WGFreewill | tuxinator: then just a box at each location |
| 01:26.10 | paradoxical | tuxinator - VPN between the two sites? |
| 01:26.16 | isamar | :-) |
| 01:26.21 | WGFreewill | jeremy suggested |
| 01:26.25 | WGFreewill | for a solution: |
| 01:26.29 | WGFreewill | SIP / IAX |
| 01:26.32 | WGFreewill | hahahaha |
| 01:26.34 | isamar | hehe |
| 01:26.45 | tuxinator_linux | paradoxical: not VPN exactly http://www.netifice.com/products/siteToSite/MPLSPrivate.html |
| 01:26.52 | isamar | and also, destroy all ciscos in the world and substitute for * |
| 01:27.02 | isamar | nothing extreme.... |
| 01:27.08 | WGFreewill | we are ready |
| 01:27.12 | paradoxical | Do you need to use MPLS? |
| 01:27.16 | WGFreewill | but we need a good migration pathj |
| 01:27.27 | WGFreewill | we cant change it all overnight |
| 01:27.28 | tuxinator_linux | There will be locations all over the country |
| 01:27.51 | tuxinator_linux | Paradox: seems like a good alternative to Point to Point and VPN |
| 01:28.05 | WGFreewill | sounds like a lot of money |
| 01:28.13 | WGFreewill | for pre queued bandwidth |
| 01:28.24 | isamar | WGFreewill: have you seen this error? |
| 01:28.26 | isamar | chan_oh323.c:5192: warning: passing arg 4 of `ast_channel_register' from incompatible pointer type |
| 01:28.28 | tuxinator_linux | cheaper than P-to-P |
| 01:28.37 | isamar | I am trying to compile 0.7.1 |
| 01:28.39 | isamar | oh323 |
| 01:29.07 | tuxinator_linux | WG: I will be sending a bit a data between locations |
| 01:29.08 | WGFreewill | yes you need to update cvs and make sure oh323 and pwlib are from the inaccess site not anywhere else |
| 01:29.18 | WGFreewill | if it were me..... |
| 01:29.33 | WGFreewill | I would make an asterisk firewall on your favorite suitable internet connection |
| 01:29.39 | isamar | WGFreewill: I did it |
| 01:29.48 | WGFreewill | (vpn if you feel you need it, but nobody wants your data probably) |
| 01:30.22 | isamar | openh323-Janus_patch4-src-tar.gz & openh323-Janus_patch4-src-tar.gz |
| 01:30.23 | WGFreewill | isamar: debian sarge, 0.7.1, asterisk head |
| 01:30.28 | WGFreewill | yep |
| 01:30.32 | WGFreewill | compiles and works for me |
| 01:30.34 | isamar | pwlib-Janus_patch4-src-tar.gz |
| 01:30.36 | WGFreewill | poor audio |
| 01:30.48 | WGFreewill | 'garbled voice' |
| 01:30.49 | tuxinator_linux | WG: We will be transfering medical files between locations - making everybody comfortable is what I need - I trust VPNs and stuff just fine, but it's not me needing the convincing |
| 01:31.04 | WGFreewill | then private lines |
| 01:31.12 | WGFreewill | cisco routers, qos dscp, |
| 01:31.19 | WGFreewill | not too hard to configure |
| 01:31.24 | WGFreewill | asterisk box at each location |
| 01:31.40 | tuxinator_linux | WG: loop costs would be high that way |
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| 01:32.04 | tuxinator_linux | WG: with the MPLS, each location connects to local POP |
| 01:32.15 | WGFreewill | multipoint frame |
| 01:32.21 | WGFreewill | connects each location |
| 01:32.23 | WGFreewill | to a local pop |
| 01:32.29 | tuxinator_linux | Frame with VoIP? |
| 01:32.49 | WGFreewill | check your providers service |
| 01:32.53 | WGFreewill | eir=cir |
| 01:33.16 | WGFreewill | is long and the edge routers |
| 01:33.18 | tuxinator_linux | WG: the MPLS has a good SLA and QOS |
| 01:33.23 | WGFreewill | make sure the voice doesnt get killed |
| 01:33.38 | tuxinator_linux | WG: how do you mean? |
| 01:33.40 | WGFreewill | yeah if you dont want to do the config on your routers |
| 01:33.46 | WGFreewill | mpls is great |
| 01:33.49 | WGFreewill | spend the money |
| 01:34.03 | tuxinator_linux | WG: They run an all Cisco network |
| 01:34.13 | WGFreewill | some MPLS offerings are very very good |
| 01:34.21 | tuxinator_linux | with all the redunancy, I just can't match it |
| 01:34.30 | WGFreewill | and they aren't charging you too much |
| 01:34.37 | WGFreewill | for the same network you got 5 years ago |
| 01:34.41 | WGFreewill | with a proper config in place |
| 01:35.00 | WGFreewill | but mpls does not = redundancy |
| 01:35.06 | WGFreewill | or SLA |
| 01:35.06 | tuxinator_linux | I know |
| 01:35.15 | tuxinator_linux | their internal network |
| 01:35.15 | WGFreewill | MPLS = QOS/Partitioning |
| 01:35.38 | tuxinator_linux | http://www.netifice.com/products/siteToSite/MPLSPrivate.html - check it out |
| 01:35.39 | WGFreewill | sometimes simplified routing and better point to point delivery |
| 01:36.06 | WGFreewill | ok |
| 01:36.47 | WGFreewill | now thats an aspect of mpls I love |
| 01:36.59 | tuxinator_linux | I am only one person, and I don't want to hire anyone else. If I have them do it (they manage CPE too), I can yell at them when something goes wrong. |
| 01:37.02 | WGFreewill | phone companies can attach a DSL circuit to your MPLS cloud |
| 01:37.31 | WGFreewill | bellsouth charges an extra 10 bux |
| 01:37.31 | tuxinator_linux | Unfortunately they don't do phone yet |
| 01:37.33 | WGFreewill | i think |
| 01:37.52 | WGFreewill | to make a DSL line join a business MPLS cloud |
| 01:37.57 | tuxinator_linux | I have been trough so many providers, I think this one looks good, I will try them next |
| 01:38.13 | WGFreewill | wrong chat forum for that though |
| 01:38.16 | WGFreewill | #mpls |
| 01:38.17 | WGFreewill | hehe |
| 01:38.24 | WGFreewill | asterisk at each location |
| 01:38.30 | WGFreewill | or even a central one |
| 01:38.40 | WGFreewill | if your just satellite nodes with 1-2 people |
| 01:38.41 | tuxinator_linux | I was planning to just hava redundant central one |
| 01:38.45 | WGFreewill | yep |
| 01:38.57 | WGFreewill | it'll be sweet |
| 01:39.00 | tuxinator_linux | each location will have about 5 extensions |
| 01:39.03 | WGFreewill | dont buy H323 phones |
| 01:39.09 | WGFreewill | or run H323 |
| 01:39.15 | WGFreewill | ;) |
| 01:39.52 | WGFreewill | uniden uip200 (no conference) cisco 79xx, grandstream, snom |
| 01:39.55 | tuxinator_linux | I was looking at the Cisco, and second ...., um let me think |
| 01:40.34 | WGFreewill | networkhardware had the 7960 non G for a bit over 200 |
| 01:40.36 | WGFreewill | USD |
| 01:40.54 | tuxinator_linux | ya, no too bad |
| 01:40.58 | tuxinator_linux | look durable |
| 01:41.15 | WGFreewill | good phones and you can tell them |
| 01:41.18 | WGFreewill | that if your asterisk fails |
| 01:41.19 | tuxinator_linux | Not too hard to get the SIP on there? |
| 01:41.22 | WGFreewill | you'll install call manager |
| 01:41.30 | WGFreewill | naw works great |
| 01:41.32 | tuxinator_linux | true |
| 01:41.39 | WGFreewill | I have over 1000 79xx deployed |
| 01:41.43 | WGFreewill | never a problem |
| 01:41.54 | tuxinator_linux | great :-) |
| 01:42.03 | chris_d | I would like to purchase a Digium card to set up a simple server to take two POTS lines and make a VoiP switch. We want to do voice and fax in and outbound from IP phones set up at workstations. Which card is the best choice for this simple setup? |
| 01:42.21 | tuxinator_linux | WG: do I have the phone boot trough the WAN or set up a proxy at each location |
| 01:42.22 | Nugget | chris_d: a tdm400p with two FXO modules. |
| 01:42.35 | WGFreewill | boot on WAN |
| 01:42.41 | WGFreewill | dhcp local |
| 01:42.43 | WGFreewill | with iphelpers |
| 01:42.45 | WGFreewill | or whatever |
| 01:42.55 | chris_d | Nugget: That's what I thought, but I wanted to make sure. I get confused on the whole FXO/FXS thing... |
| 01:42.56 | tuxinator_linux | not familiar with IPhelpers |
| 01:43.02 | chris_d | Nugget: Thanks. |
| 01:43.07 | WGFreewill | dhcp relay |
| 01:43.11 | tuxinator_linux | ~rtfw |
| 01:43.13 | jbot | methinks rtfw is Read That F*cking Wiki, the one at http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php |
| 01:43.13 | Nugget | FXO plugs into a hot phone line. FXS creates a phone line to plug into a device. |
| 01:43.14 | WGFreewill | sorry thats cisco-speak |
| 01:43.27 | tuxinator_linux | oh, okay |
| 01:43.32 | WGFreewill | O=office S=station |
| 01:43.33 | Nugget | fax is a bitch, though. I suggest a totally seperate fax line and fax machine. |
| 01:43.37 | WGFreewill | (central office) |
| 01:43.41 | chris_d | Nugget: OK. I understand the first, but not the second. |
| 01:43.52 | WGFreewill | buy the port for where you are POINTING |
| 01:43.54 | tuxinator_linux | think workstation |
| 01:43.54 | Nugget | FXO talks to a phone line. FXS talks to a /phone/ |
| 01:44.25 | chris_d | Nugget: Ah. So if I had a POTS phone and wanted to connect to the IP side, I would need FXS? |
| 01:44.33 | Nugget | correct. |
| 01:44.50 | tuxinator_linux | I plan to run LTSP on the same network. I was going to put a LTSP server at each location. It relies on DHCP also. |
| 01:45.12 | chris_d | Nugget: Thanks for the clarification. |
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| 01:45.48 | daved_ | is there any way of making festival sound a little more natural? i.e. usable? |
| 01:46.32 | Nugget | no. the people who use festival are just willing to accept crappy quality. |
| 01:46.49 | daved_ | so no other tts option? |
| 01:47.06 | Nugget | I've never heard one I could stand, but everyone's threshhold for quality is different. |
| 01:47.14 | tuxinator_linux | WG: I was planning to use a different subnet for each location, ie 10.0.1.0/24 10.0.2.0/24 etc. Do you think this will cause problem? |
| 01:47.32 | daved_ | hrm |
| 01:47.37 | Nugget | tuxinator_linux: my asterisk box is on two networks with no trouble. just make sure you don't set up the devices to reinvite. |
| 01:47.48 | daved_ | is there a service where you can buy recordings from people whose voices are suited for that sort of thing? |
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| 01:48.09 | WGFreewill | tuxinator: multiple networks are fine and careinvite is fine |
| 01:48.15 | daved_ | where do the voice recordings in asterisk come from? |
| 01:48.17 | WGFreewill | if all the endpoints can reach each other |
| 01:48.19 | tuxinator_linux | WG: okay, non reinvite, I'll have to look that up. I assume that is a setting for the phones. |
| 01:48.30 | WGFreewill | daved: THE VOICE |
| 01:48.51 | WGFreewill | tux: if your routing is solid careinvite=yes |
| 01:49.16 | WGFreewill | tux: careinvite=no is for phones all behind nat using local asterisk server |
| 01:49.25 | WGFreewill | as bridge |
| 01:49.47 | WGFreewill | daved: you can pay for THE VOICE with paypal now using a credit system |
| 01:49.57 | WGFreewill | daved: she'll even tell you that you look great |
| 01:50.00 | daved_ | WGFreewill, url? |
| 01:50.24 | WGFreewill | female only as far as Ive heard |
| 01:50.25 | tuxinator_linux | http://www.theivrvoice.com/ |
| 01:50.56 | WGFreewill | thevoice.digium.com |
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| 01:51.01 | WGFreewill | maybe thats better |
| 01:51.10 | tuxinator_linux | WG's site is better |
| 01:51.16 | WGFreewill | http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=thevoice |
| 01:51.18 | tuxinator_linux | the one I gave is her site |
| 01:51.53 | WGFreewill | 12 bux and she'll tell you that your the king of the world |
| 01:52.32 | tuxinator_linux | she's cheeping that a girlfriend |
| 01:53.03 | tuxinator_linux | hmm |
| 01:53.12 | tuxinator_linux | cheaper than a girlfriend |
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| 01:53.41 | daved_ | argh |
| 01:53.46 | daved_ | i hate websites that have no prices |
| 01:53.55 | WGFreewill | http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=thevoice |
| 01:54.05 | WGFreewill | mee too here is one that does |
| 01:54.09 | WGFreewill | volume discounts available |
| 01:54.22 | tuxinator_linux | http://store.yahoo.com/asteriskpbx/index.html |
| 01:56.08 | WGFreewill | are all the digium people at VON? |
| 01:56.25 | file64 | VON isn't even happening yet |
| 01:56.39 | daved_ | i just got my digium hardware today |
| 01:56.42 | file64 | and I hope I'm not sick when I go, as it would suck |
| 01:56.44 | daved_ | very fast from AL to GA :) |
| 01:57.08 | Nugget | I've driven very fast from AL to GA before. I20 is boring. |
| 01:57.36 | daved_ | indeed it is |
| 01:57.41 | daved_ | atlantai is boring too though |
| 01:57.50 | Nugget | nah, I like atlanta just fine. I used to live there. |
| 01:57.55 | daved_ | i do live here |
| 01:57.59 | Nugget | spiffy. |
| 01:57.59 | daved_ | and i think it's boring :) |
| 01:58.03 | daved_ | i realy want to move back to dc |
| 01:58.16 | daved_ | really* |
| 01:58.17 | Nugget | DC is fun, too. |
| 01:58.19 | daved_ | i can't type tonight |
| 01:58.37 | Nugget | I lived in richmond for a while and we used to head up to DC all the time. |
| 01:58.55 | daved_ | my biggest problem with atlanta is the nightlife |
| 01:59.06 | daved_ | seems like you can either find raverkiddies or the buckhead crap |
| 01:59.09 | daved_ | and nothing in between |
| 01:59.11 | Nugget | when I lived in atlanta I lived downtown (well, midtown really) |
| 01:59.37 | Nugget | I was a raverkiddie at the time, so I guess I fit in just fine. :) |
| 01:59.38 | daved_ | yeah, i live in the collier area |
| 01:59.50 | daved_ | yeah, i was too, years and years ago :) |
| 01:59.58 | isamar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:00.03 | Nugget | now I live in austin and I'm never leaving. austin rocks. |
| 02:00.43 | daved_ | hrm.. maybe i'll add that to the list of my scouting expeditions |
| 02:00.52 | daved_ | trying to find a new place to live, really getting old here |
| 02:01.15 | Nugget | austin is like a city-sized little five points. |
| 02:01.23 | isamar | Nugget: why austin rocks? |
| 02:01.31 | daved_ | hehe, cool :) |
| 02:03.50 | isamar | was Dorothy said.. "there is no better place than our home" |
| 02:04.03 | isamar | was=as |
| 02:07.08 | isamar | Hollywood should make a new version of "wiz of Oz"... it's an amazing classic... |
| 02:07.19 | Nugget | they did. it was called "The Wiz" and it sucked. |
| 02:07.45 | daved_ | "wicked" on broadway right now is the story told from the perspective of the wicked witch |
| 02:07.47 | daved_ | pretty funny |
| 02:08.16 | hermie | _The Wiz_ had some wierd actors tho |
| 02:08.24 | isamar | nug_: originally where are u from? |
| 02:09.11 | Nugget | indianapolis |
| 02:09.37 | Nugget | but I've also lived in birmingham (alabama), atlanta, richmond, and austin. |
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| 02:10.01 | Nugget | and practically lived in basel, switzerland -- I went there a lot at my last job. |
| 02:10.14 | isamar | cool |
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| 02:14.54 | isamar | need to go.. need to show some work |
| 02:15.04 | Nugget | what is this, a math test? |
| 02:15.33 | Sedorox | 2+2=? |
| 02:15.38 | isamar | ?! |
| 02:16.09 | isamar | Sedo_: depends to whom you ask... |
| 02:16.27 | isamar | Sedo_: if you ask to an engineer.. he says 4 |
| 02:16.40 | Qwell | 5 (for very large values of 2) |
| 02:16.52 | isamar | if you ask to an accounter.. he asks back "which result you want?" |
| 02:16.59 | Nugget | http://slacker.com/~nugget/stuff/unix-horror-story.txt <-- a good read if you're bored. |
| 02:17.17 | Qwell | Nugget: Your own story? |
| 02:17.26 | Nugget | no |
| 02:17.28 | isamar | if you ask to a lawyer, he asks back "how much you have to spend?" |
| 02:17.34 | isamar | :-) |
| 02:18.13 | daved_ | ok.. im about to bring this tdm400 up.. anyone have a sample config file for using 1 fxo line on it? |
| 02:18.59 | Nugget | voip-info.org or digium.com |
| 02:19.03 | Nugget | or the zaptel source |
| 02:19.08 | Nugget | all three contain sample configs |
| 02:19.42 | isamar | nug_: that history is fiction... or maybe a quiz... |
| 02:20.02 | Nugget | are you asking or telling me? |
| 02:20.14 | Nugget | I have no reason to think it's not a true story |
| 02:21.02 | isamar | I have some |
| 02:21.22 | isamar | 1) grep is not bult-in command in any unix |
| 02:21.53 | isamar | 2) cd<enter> kicks you to /root/ |
| 02:21.54 | Nugget | sure, but it's not unreasonable to assume that grep was in /usr/local/ on that machine |
| 02:22.09 | Nugget | cd<enter> kicks you to your home directory, if it exists. |
| 02:22.15 | Nugget | some unixs have root's home directory as / |
| 02:22.28 | Nugget | that's not uncommon at all |
| 02:22.28 | isamar | hmmmmm |
| 02:22.35 | isamar | so /usr/local/ was deleted |
| 02:22.54 | Nugget | in this story? no, he says that /usr was unaffected. |
| 02:23.02 | Nugget | "We found a version of cpio in |
| 02:23.04 | Nugget | /usr/local" |
| 02:23.20 | isamar | ok.. |
| 02:23.42 | Qwell | Nugget: interesting |
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| 02:24.16 | Nugget | where in japan do you live, isamar? |
| 02:25.12 | isamar | Nagoya |
| 02:25.27 | Nugget | I have been to tokyo, hiroshima, and nikko. but never nagoya. |
| 02:25.39 | riddlebox | do you have to obtain any licenses or anything to sell an Asterisk machine? |
| 02:26.06 | Nugget | riddlebox: no, but it's GPL so you have to provide access to the source code. |
| 02:26.32 | isamar | nagoya is the geographic central of the main island... |
| 02:26.58 | riddlebox | Nugget: ok, the source is installed on the machine right? |
| 02:27.10 | Nugget | I don't know -- you installed it. |
| 02:27.11 | Nugget | is it? |
| 02:28.09 | isamar | and believe of not... full of japaneses :-) |
| 02:28.13 | riddlebox | well is there a src package then? |
| 02:28.19 | Nugget | a what? |
| 02:28.26 | Nugget | what are you asking? |
| 02:28.29 | Qwell | eww, package version |
| 02:28.34 | Nugget | isamar: I love japan. it is my favorite place to visit. |
| 02:29.20 | isamar | japan is wonderful to be visited.. but not good to live.. IMHO |
| 02:29.33 | Nugget | I was offered a job in tokyo. some days I wish I'd taken it. |
| 02:29.34 | Qwell | anywhere that you don't live is a good place to visit |
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| 02:29.42 | Nugget | indeed. :) |
| 02:29.51 | Nugget | http://slacker.com/photos/tokyolaunch/IMG_2215 <-- Nugget-kun :) |
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| 02:30.17 | isamar | tokyo even worse... |
| 02:30.25 | isamar | the most expensive city of this planet |
| 02:30.29 | Nugget | tokyo is expensive -- but if you have money it is nice. :) |
| 02:31.13 | isamar | the first place I drunk a beer for 8 bucks...gzz |
| 02:31.20 | Nugget | heh |
| 02:31.38 | isamar | even Paris is not so expensive |
| 02:32.05 | Qwell | vegas |
| 02:32.17 | paradoxical | Can anyone here help me out with a MWI light problem? |
| 02:33.02 | paradoxical | I'm trying to get the msg waiting indicator to work... Using a 7960, set the mailbox=someextension argument in the sip.conf file...I leave a voicemail and the light doesn't come on. :-/ Voicemail is working fine, voicemail.conf is setup right...everything is working nicely except for the MWI light. |
| 02:33.04 | paradoxical | Refuses to come on. |
| 02:33.19 | Nugget | it ought to work. |
| 02:33.28 | paradoxical | ...yep ;) |
| 02:33.31 | Nugget | I didn't do anything special for my 7960 and it works fine. |
| 02:33.36 | paradoxical | Hummmm |
| 02:33.40 | BrianR___ | paradoxical: Do you have the latest SIP firmware installed? |
| 02:33.42 | paradoxical | Yes. |
| 02:33.48 | paradoxical | Brand spankin' new off of CCO |
| 02:33.51 | daved_ | anyone know a good place to buy inexpensive 7960's? im not sure how i feel about buying them on ebay |
| 02:33.53 | BrianR___ | The older Cisco firmwares are borderline useless. |
| 02:33.54 | Nugget | technically it's mailbox=mailboxnumber, not someextension, but I presume those are both the same in your case. |
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| 02:34.13 | paradoxical | Yes yes... I'm talking like mailbox=22101 |
| 02:34.15 | paradoxical | Or something like that. |
| 02:34.18 | paradoxical | Depending on the phone of course. |
| 02:34.25 | paradoxical | I think that eBay is not a bad idea, BrianR... |
| 02:34.27 | paradoxical | That's where I got mine |
| 02:34.30 | paradoxical | It was in fine shape |
| 02:34.31 | Nugget | sure, I'm just clarifying that there's no real correlation between extension and the mailbox number. |
| 02:34.35 | paradoxical | The phones are very sturdy. |
| 02:34.44 | BrianR___ | I buy shitpiles of phone gear on eBay... |
| 02:34.49 | paradoxical | Oh okay...sry, I misunderstood you nugget. |
| 02:35.35 | paradoxical | I guess the only thing that's really required to make it work (the MWI light, that is) is mailbox=whatever in the sip.conf, right? |
| 02:35.39 | BrianR___ | Norstar phones especially. They're only $30.. |
| 02:35.49 | BrianR___ | paradoxical: that's right. |
| 02:35.58 | Nugget | paradoxical: yeah |
| 02:36.02 | paradoxical | Hummm. :-/ |
| 02:36.04 | Nugget | and the mailbox has to exist. :) |
| 02:36.11 | BrianR___ | Norsar must be the damn cheapest phone system in the universe... |
| 02:36.14 | paradoxical | Yep...well, hummm. |
| 02:36.57 | Nugget | what version of the firmware are you using? |
| 02:37.08 | paradoxical | Let me check, one sec. |
| 02:37.28 | paradoxical | 7.3 |
| 02:37.32 | paradoxical | Downloaded just a week ago. |
| 02:37.40 | Nugget | ok, cool. |
| 02:37.55 | paradoxical | Do you have your MWI working with 7.3? |
| 02:37.56 | isamar | anybody using chan_oh323 here? |
| 02:38.07 | Nugget | where did you buy your service agreement, btw? I got mine through cdw but it was a pain in the ass. looking for a different vendor. |
| 02:38.14 | paradoxical | Yah...cdw. :( |
| 02:38.20 | Nugget | took me like eight calls. |
| 02:38.28 | paradoxical | I guess I got lucky...I only called twice. |
| 02:38.44 | BrianR___ | Heh. I was lucky enough to have a cisco support account for some other Cisco equipment. One login gets you into all the firmware. |
| 02:39.25 | Newbie___ | hi can anyone recommend where can i buy a Cisco ATA 186 or SPA 2000 ? |
| 02:39.45 | paradoxical | Brain, you have 7.3? Does your MWI work? |
| 02:39.45 | modulus_ | there's lots at http://www.google.com |
| 02:39.58 | paulc | Newbie: The SPA2000 wins hands down - it's a MUCH nicer unit. I've used both. |
| 02:40.15 | paulc | oh.. WHERE.. not WHETHER.. |
| 02:40.19 | modulus_ | paulc, yeah i've got your unit right here baby |
| 02:40.23 | Newbie___ | i forgot the web site, is something like vxxxx |
| 02:40.33 | modulus_ | jbot docs? |
| 02:40.34 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 02:40.34 | paulc | www.voxilla.com (disclaimer: I work for them.. remotely..) |
| 02:40.41 | paulc | modulus_ like it? |
| 02:40.45 | BrianR___ | Yes.. 7.3 |
| 02:40.52 | Newbie___ | yes, tks paulc |
| 02:40.53 | paradoxical | No problems, I would assume. |
| 02:40.53 | paradoxical | :-/ |
| 02:40.56 | modulus_ | paulc, a little gamy |
| 02:41.01 | paulc | gamy? |
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| 02:41.03 | modulus_ | tastes like chicken |
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| 02:41.12 | paulc | EVERYTHING tastes like chicken.. |
| 02:41.15 | modulus_ | gamey |
| 02:41.34 | Newbie___ | paulc: SPA better than cisco 186 ? |
| 02:41.49 | bjohnson | equivalent at least |
| 02:42.03 | BrianR___ | The SPA is an evolved design. |
| 02:42.07 | paulc | Newbie: Yeah, WAY better.. |
| 02:42.12 | paulc | cheaper too I think |
| 02:42.15 | paradoxical | Anyone have any ideas on why the MWI isn't working, then? Since it's working for other users using 7.3 firmrware on the 7960. |
| 02:42.49 | bjohnson | yes, cheaper |
| 02:42.57 | modulus_ | jbot mwi? |
| 02:42.59 | BrianR___ | paradoxical: You have all of the extension name, display name, etc matching in the SIP setup on the phone, right? |
| 02:43.19 | BrianR___ | (The cisco 79xx will display which line has a call waiting) |
| 02:43.42 | paradoxical | modulus: I've googled MWI like crazy...everything is setup as it should be according to the documentation I've found on the Wiki and in the asterisk handbook. |
| 02:43.42 | paradoxical | Brian - yes, everything is matching. |
| 02:43.53 | Nugget | I can't explain why it isn't working for you. |
| 02:43.58 | BrianR___ | does 'sip debug' show asterisk trying to send the MWI? |
| 02:43.59 | Nugget | there's no trick to getting it working. |
| 02:44.09 | paradoxical | :( |
| 02:44.29 | paradoxical | Let me try the debug |
| 02:46.17 | paradoxical | Debug shows nothing about MWI once the voicemail is left. |
| 02:46.26 | paradoxical | It tears the call down, and that's that. |
| 02:46.44 | modulus_ | jbot mwi? |
| 02:46.45 | jbot | Message Waiting Indicator |
| 02:47.03 | modulus_ | damn telco ppl and your damn tla's |
| 02:47.08 | Katty | hi! |
| 02:47.22 | modulus_ | jbot tla? |
| 02:47.23 | jbot | [tla] Three Letter Acronym, or the name of the binary for GNU arch |
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| 02:47.31 | paradoxical | ...forgive the n00b question, but this is the first time that I've been in this chan, isn't the jbot supposed to show some URLs with the command modulus just typed...? |
| 02:47.58 | modulus_ | paradoxical, no go check out infobot.org |
| 02:48.06 | Katty | way to not say hi (= |
| 02:48.14 | paradoxical | Hi Katty. |
| 02:48.22 | paradoxical | k thanks for the link, modulus |
| 02:48.26 | Katty | that's better |
| 02:48.27 | modulus_ | jbot etla? |
| 02:48.28 | jbot | etla is probably Extended Three Letter Acronym |
| 02:48.41 | modulus_ | jbot sfla? |
| 02:48.52 | modulus_ | jbot sfla is Stupid Four-Letter Acronym |
| 02:48.53 | jbot | okay, modulus_ |
| 02:49.11 | modulus_ | jbot lfla? |
| 02:49.19 | modulus_ | jbot lfla is Longer Four Letter Acronym |
| 02:49.20 | jbot | modulus_: okay |
| 02:49.29 | modulus_ | jbot vfla? |
| 02:49.45 | modulus_ | jbot vlfla is Very Long Five Letter Acronym |
| 02:49.46 | jbot | okay, modulus_ |
| 02:50.12 | Katty | hmm. |
| 02:50.20 | modulus_ | jbot tdmtla? |
| 02:50.26 | modulus_ | jbot tdmtla is Too Damn Many Three-Letter Acronyms |
| 02:50.27 | jbot | modulus_: okay |
| 02:50.32 | modulus_ | jbot tdm tla? |
| 02:50.34 | Katty | there sure are a /lot/ of people in here |
| 02:50.40 | modulus_ | jbot tdm tla is Too Damn Many Three-Letter Acronyms |
| 02:50.41 | jbot | okay, modulus_ |
| 02:50.41 | paradoxical | Yeppers. |
| 02:50.57 | modulus_ | jbot 26^3? |
| 02:50.59 | daved_ | channel.c:1901 ast_request: No channel type registered for 'Zap' |
| 02:51.05 | daved_ | i have set up zapata.conf |
| 02:51.07 | daved_ | and zaptel.conf |
| 02:51.09 | modulus_ | jbot math 26^3? |
| 02:51.17 | daved_ | everything looks kosher in /var/log/messages |
| 02:52.00 | BrianR___ | jbot: smoke a doobie |
| 02:52.04 | jbot | ACTION smokes a doobie |
| 02:52.08 | Qwell | jesus christ...is it legal for a telemarketer to call EVERY night? |
| 02:52.11 | modulus_ | jbot hug BrianR |
| 02:52.14 | jbot | ACTION hugs BrianR |
| 02:52.18 | paradoxical | Probably...do not call list, Qwell? |
| 02:52.21 | Qwell | even after repeating telling them to remove you from whatever list you're on? |
| 02:52.24 | daved_ | anyone have any iedas? |
| 02:52.27 | BrianR___ | jbot: drink a ber |
| 02:52.29 | jbot | I don't want to drink a ber |
| 02:52.31 | Qwell | paradoxical: non-profit org...they aren't part of it |
| 02:52.36 | BrianR___ | hmm.. |
| 02:52.52 | paradoxical | Oh that stinks. |
| 02:53.07 | Qwell | I'm seriously considering filing a report with the FTC. This is getting to be BS |
| 02:53.24 | paradoxical | Are you using Asterisk? If so, can't you filter the number(s)? |
| 02:53.34 | paradoxical | (I'm asking...I'm pretty new at asterisk) |
| 02:53.34 | Qwell | nah |
| 02:53.39 | Qwell | Don't have callerid anyhow |
| 02:53.44 | modulus_ | jbot babelfish de en du werdest eine krankenschwester brauchen |
| 02:53.49 | daved_ | what does it mean if it cant find a channel type registered 'Zap' ? |
| 02:54.12 | Qwell | Any idea how I can get the number that just called me? Would Verizon be able to provide me with that? |
| 02:55.38 | paradoxical | Last time I checked in my phone book (hah, who the heck reads their phone book? *blushes*), you can call and file a complaint about harassing phone calls...depending on the provider, they will record the number and wait for law enforcement to ask them for the number with a valid police report in progress, or they will give you the number themselves so you can deal with it calling the police, or whoever else. |
| 02:55.55 | Qwell | ahh |
| 02:56.09 | Qwell | So, even though its a legit corp, it would be a report with the local police? |
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| 02:56.22 | Katty | hi, adker! |
| 02:56.26 | paradoxical | Well, my understanding is that if you ask them to stop calling, and they keep calling, they're breaking teh law. |
| 02:56.35 | paradoxical | The* |
| 02:56.36 | Qwell | excellent, making the call to Verizon right now |
| 02:56.39 | Qwell | thanks |
| 02:56.58 | BrianR___ | Harassing phonecalls are against the law, and non-profits are not exempt. |
| 02:56.59 | adker | hello |
| 02:57.15 | Qwell | Its stupid that they're exempt from DNC though |
| 02:57.17 | BrianR___ | there's a bunch of extra rules for commercial telemarketers.. |
| 02:57.23 | Qwell | for exactly this reason |
| 02:57.27 | Katty | Qwell: DNC? |
| 02:57.32 | Qwell | do not call |
| 02:57.37 | paradoxical | Yah. |
| 02:57.40 | Katty | oh. k'then |
| 02:57.59 | BrianR___ | http://osiris.978.org/~brianr/telemarketing/ (I got $1500 from teleservices direct) |
| 02:58.02 | BrianR___ | I |
| 02:58.02 | paradoxical | Okay...sry to bring this up again, but I looked very closely at the logs and I found this (about the MWI light NOT coming on after a voicemail was left) |
| 02:58.02 | paradoxical | Messages-Waiting: no |
| 02:58.02 | paradoxical | Voice-Message: 0/0 |
| 02:58.02 | paradoxical | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:58.02 | paradoxical | Scheduling destruction of call '46f9e1293cff2f472025929b142b4e0a@10.1.1.15' in 15000 ms |
| 02:58.21 | BrianR___ | 've been having trouble with the subscription telemarketers from a local newspaper calling too much. |
| 02:58.28 | Qwell | you sued, or? |
| 02:58.33 | BrianR___ | Today I answered the phone "911 Emergency. This line is recorded" |
| 02:58.40 | Katty | su ed |
| 02:58.44 | BrianR___ | Qwell: Just threatened to, they sent me a check. |
| 02:58.53 | Qwell | oh, wow |
| 02:59.01 | Katty | BrianR___: gosh |
| 02:59.11 | BrianR___ | Qwell: Then they called me again. Twice. I threatened again, they sent me $1000 |
| 02:59.14 | Qwell | Would you mind if I borrowed some of the text of these letters if this continues? |
| 02:59.16 | ariel_ | paradoxical, that is a normal message of a call not leaving a voicemail. |
| 02:59.20 | BrianR___ | Qwell: Sure. |
| 02:59.27 | Qwell | cool, bookmarking this |
| 03:00.30 | Katty | hi ariel_! |
| 03:00.51 | ariel_ | hello just got my kids to sleep. Long night. |
| 03:01.03 | Katty | they didn't make a big fuss did they? |
| 03:01.19 | BrianR___ | Katty: The check just showed up.. UPS overnight envelope. |
| 03:01.21 | ariel_ | hehehe |
| 03:01.29 | Katty | BrianR___: hot |
| 03:01.32 | Katty | BrianR___: very hot |
| 03:01.44 | paradoxical | ariel -- well ...weird... |
| 03:01.46 | Katty | i need more cunning plans |
| 03:01.58 | BrianR___ | I've tried to shag down other telemarketers for minor violations, but nobody was as flagrant as teleservices direct |
| 03:01.59 | paradoxical | I left a voicemail, because I checked the voicemail and the msg was there. |
| 03:02.28 | BrianR___ | I suspect they sent me the cash because the had called so many times. It would have been a clear cut loss for them in court |
| 03:02.40 | Katty | ya |
| 03:02.46 | BrianR___ | plus attorneys fees, cost of coming to massachusetts, and everything else |
| 03:02.51 | Qwell | BrianR___: I've seriously gotten...15 calls from this place, since I've lived here? |
| 03:03.00 | Qwell | uptime on my router says 42 days, so... |
| 03:03.36 | BrianR___ | It's very imporant that every time they call you very clearly ask them never to call you again and that they add your number to their do not call list. |
| 03:03.46 | ariel_ | paradoxical, the scheduling destruction of call is normal. and the above line says voicemail 0/0 |
| 03:03.55 | Qwell | BrianR___: I have, about...14 times |
| 03:04.01 | ariel_ | are you sure you have the voicemail setup for the right context. |
| 03:04.08 | paradoxical | ...hummmm |
| 03:04.12 | BrianR___ | Back when I got those calls I was living with my parents... |
| 03:04.12 | paradoxical | Not 100% sure what you mean by that |
| 03:04.23 | BrianR___ | to this day they don't get a single telemarketing call on that line. ever. |
| 03:04.28 | Qwell | heh |
| 03:04.37 | bjohnson | I'm looking for a Canadian Supplier of SPA 2ks and 3ks |
| 03:04.46 | ariel_ | how do you have your voicemail setup via the voicemail.conf or an mysql? |
| 03:04.52 | BrianR___ | must have got on some special industry list of telemarketing haters... |
| 03:04.52 | Qwell | Its funny, I'm on the DNC(since before I moved in, when I got the number from Verizon), and I still get all sorts of calls |
| 03:04.54 | paradoxical | voicemail.conf |
| 03:04.56 | Qwell | every night, it doesn't fail |
| 03:05.49 | ariel_ | paradoxical, do you have your voicemail in the context called default? |
| 03:05.58 | BrianR___ | oooh.. context is imporant... |
| 03:06.16 | paradoxical | Actually, I have it default. |
| 03:06.21 | paradoxical | What's the difference, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 03:06.30 | BrianR___ | you can have voicemail in different contexts.. |
| 03:06.32 | bjohnson | I'm writing an article that could get a few thousand readers. Any Canadian hardware vendors now? |
| 03:06.43 | paradoxical | So...does the context for sip have to match the context for voicemail? |
| 03:06.51 | ariel_ | no |
| 03:07.05 | paradoxical | Okay, then why does the voicemail context have to be in default? |
| 03:07.07 | BrianR___ | paradoxical: No, but you need to specify the full context and extension if they don't. |
| 03:07.11 | ariel_ | but the voicemail=124@default or the context it's in. |
| 03:07.14 | paradoxical | OOOOH, I gotcha. |
| 03:07.34 | paradoxical | WOOOHOOO, that was it. :) |
| 03:07.36 | paradoxical | You guys rock. |
| 03:07.51 | BrianR___ | there ya go. |
| 03:08.14 | paradoxical | So, if I can ask another question... I have this line: servermail = mailserver.isp.com ...but the eMails never get sent the way it's supposed to. |
| 03:08.18 | Katty | paradoxical: pfffft |
| 03:08.24 | paradoxical | pppfffttt what? ;) |
| 03:08.25 | Katty | paradoxical: don't forget the ladies |
| 03:08.35 | paradoxical | ;) I would never. |
| 03:08.50 | Katty | excellent |
| 03:09.11 | ariel_ | paradoxical, how is it suppose to be sent? |
| 03:09.19 | BrianR___ | Know of any other prepaid voip->pstn gateways like nuphone? Preferably ones that speak IAX? |
| 03:09.20 | Katty | paradoxical: actually, i don't know anything |
| 03:09.44 | ariel_ | voipjet, voicepulse |
| 03:09.48 | paradoxical | Hahah, neither do I Katty...:) What do you mean how, ariel? If you're talking about format, it's in wav49 right now...but I don't think the server is even able to connect to my ISPs mailserver. |
| 03:09.49 | bjohnson | livevoip |
| 03:09.53 | bjohnson | teliax |
| 03:09.59 | bjohnson | aleph-com.net |
| 03:10.10 | bjohnson | shall we continue? |
| 03:10.15 | paradoxical | Voipjet is only one way, right? They don't have incoming call abilities? |
| 03:10.17 | bjohnson | about 200 hundred listed on the wiki |
| 03:10.30 | ariel_ | asterisk uses send mail to send make sure it's configured |
| 03:10.33 | BrianR___ | Aah.. I must be looking at the wrong page. What's the keyword? |
| 03:10.45 | bjohnson | damned if I know |
| 03:10.47 | ariel_ | paradoxical, correct. |
| 03:10.58 | paradoxical | Thanks ariel...let me look into this. |
| 03:11.01 | modulus_ | and they all suck |
| 03:11.05 | bjohnson | but I've read it so I know it's there |
| 03:11.15 | ariel_ | ~google voip service providers |
| 03:11.20 | bjohnson | modulus_ likes to bitch |
| 03:11.33 | modulus_ | no they just all suck |
| 03:11.59 | Katty | bjohnson: (= |
| 03:12.20 | bjohnson | what is '(+'? |
| 03:12.30 | bjohnson | er .. what is '(='? |
| 03:12.31 | paradoxical | Why do they suck, modulus? What would you use if you don't have a FXO/FXS card...? |
| 03:12.32 | modulus_ | cyclops smiling |
| 03:12.36 | modulus_ | smily face |
| 03:12.38 | Katty | bjohnson: it is my left handed smiley face |
| 03:13.05 | Katty | bjohnson: was just saying hi |
| 03:13.09 | Katty | so unusual here, it seems. |
| 03:13.13 | paradoxical | How so? |
| 03:13.15 | Katty | i'm geeked out for one day |
| 03:13.19 | Katty | too much |
| 03:13.24 | Katty | so now my mind is jello |
| 03:13.24 | ariel_ | Katty, there are allot of pure geeks here. |
| 03:13.32 | modulus_ | no there aren't |
| 03:13.41 | Katty | escense of geek! |
| 03:13.43 | Katty | in stores now! |
| 03:13.52 | modulus_ | it's "essence" btw |
| 03:13.53 | paradoxical | lol |
| 03:13.56 | BrianR___ | I had very good luck with nufone today. Painless. |
| 03:14.00 | bjohnson | soo .. I need a contact of someone who "might" be willing to become a Canadian hardware supplier |
| 03:14.13 | bjohnson | shido6: how about you? |
| 03:14.17 | Katty | modulus_: thanks, i can't spell (= |
| 03:14.25 | modulus_ | and you're dyslexic |
| 03:14.34 | Katty | sometimes |
| 03:14.46 | modulus_ | "blond" would be very befitting of you |
| 03:14.48 | Katty | i haven't heard anyone complain yet. |
| 03:14.48 | ariel_ | Canada hummm the great northern area of cold winter weather... |
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| 03:15.03 | modulus_ | jbot vlfla? |
| 03:15.05 | jbot | from memory, vlfla is Very Long Five Letter Acronym |
| 03:15.12 | modulus_ | jbot etla? |
| 03:15.14 | jbot | etla is probably Extended Three Letter Acronym |
| 03:15.14 | Katty | modulus_: looks like I missed my calling ;) |
| 03:15.20 | bjohnson | Land of beer and snuggling in sleeping bags |
| 03:15.21 | modulus_ | jbot forget etla |
| 03:15.21 | jbot | i forgot etla, modulus_ |
| 03:15.41 | visik7 | tzanger have u tried zaptel hardware under a non0 xen domain ? |
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| 03:15.51 | modulus_ | jbot etla? |
| 03:15.52 | jbot | Extended Three Letter Acronym (pronounced /ee tee el ay/) |
| 03:16.07 | modulus_ | jbot lart Katty |
| 03:16.30 | Katty | modulus_: so why is it you feel the need to pick on me already? |
| 03:16.41 | bjohnson | yeah .. he's the guy you want to listen to about voip provider choices |
| 03:16.47 | BrianR___ | what kind of bot is jbot anyway/ |
| 03:16.54 | scythelx | hello all, i'm writing an agi script, and i cant seem to pass vars from the dialplan. vars like $(EXTEN} will pass, but i want to do something like script.pl|customer=blah|extension=1234 .. should i be using the $ARGV[0] to pass the variables into the agi script?? |
| 03:16.56 | bjohnson | ~jbot |
| 03:16.57 | jbot | jbot is, like, the shipboard computer, but you may call me eddie if it helps you relax |
| 03:16.59 | modulus_ | jbot what kind of bot are you? |
| 03:17.01 | jbot | modulus_: I think you lost me on that one |
| 03:17.10 | BrianR___ | Hmm. It answers ctcp version. |
| 03:17.14 | bjohnson | ~eddie |
| 03:17.15 | jbot | Robust, clustering, load balancing, high availability, web server tool.. URL: http://www.eddieware.org/ |
| 03:17.24 | ariel_ | scythelx, spelling counts ${EXTEN} |
| 03:17.32 | BrianR___ | I run a hacked up infobot on efnet called 'Phelon' - it can learn code fragments. |
| 03:17.55 | modulus_ | jbot hi |
| 03:17.56 | jbot | hello, modulus_ |
| 03:17.57 | bjohnson | scythelx: just in case you missed it .. the openning bracket |
| 03:18.12 | scythelx | bjohnson: sorry typo |
| 03:18.33 | ariel_ | scythelx, ${ARG1} |
| 03:18.33 | scythelx | bjohnson: will the dialplan only pass global vars? or can you pass your own custom vars |
| 03:18.40 | scythelx | ah... |
| 03:18.41 | bjohnson | otherwise .. sorry I don't know agi |
| 03:18.56 | bjohnson | the dilplan in general will pass whatever vars you want |
| 03:19.07 | bjohnson | what it passes to the agi .. I do not know |
| 03:19.16 | bjohnson | I think .. all of it |
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| 03:19.26 | scythelx | ok, i'll do some more research, thanks for your help guys |
| 03:19.26 | ariel_ | scythelx, you have to define the var before going into the agi. |
| 03:19.30 | modulus_ | scythelx, you don't need to back-whack the equals sign? |
| 03:19.57 | scythelx | well, i would pass ${1234} , but i'm trying to figure out how to retrieve it in the agi script |
| 03:20.01 | modulus_ | and here i thought you were passing parseable fields per argument |
| 03:20.26 | modulus_ | i gave you more credit than you deserve |
| 03:20.35 | Katty | heh |
| 03:20.38 | Katty | you sure are bitter |
| 03:21.05 | scythelx | no these arent parseable, they can be anything... |
| 03:21.24 | modulus_ | katty, go munch on some craven coagulation of mammering rat retch |
| 03:21.34 | Katty | modulus_: sorry, don't feel like it |
| 03:22.40 | modulus_ | jbot sfla? |
| 03:22.41 | jbot | i guess sfla is Stupid Four-Letter Acronym |
| 03:22.50 | modulus_ | jbot tdm tla? |
| 03:22.51 | jbot | i heard tdm tla is Too Damn Many Three-Letter Acronyms |
| 03:23.00 | ariel_ | scythelx, see this: # Setup some variables |
| 03:23.00 | ariel_ | my %AGI; my $tests = 0; my $fail = 0; my $pass = 0; |
| 03:23.34 | modulus_ | you sure are good with the my() function |
| 03:24.04 | ariel_ | like I said you have to define them.... |
| 03:24.17 | modulus_ | *sigh* |
| 03:24.50 | Katty | yeah, you're all too busy bashing each other |
| 03:24.57 | Katty | kinda amusing really |
| 03:25.01 | modulus_ | no i'm too busy bashing everyone |
| 03:25.10 | Katty | k'then |
| 03:25.10 | modulus_ | and everyone's too busy being morons |
| 03:25.21 | modulus_ | ariel my doesn't define variables |
| 03:25.24 | Katty | ariel_: good move |
| 03:25.35 | Katty | ariel_: you can't fix stubborn and stupid |
| 03:25.38 | modulus_ | my() declares them in a scope |
| 03:26.09 | ariel_ | modulus_, there are many ways to do agi but if your having a problem with it you should go back to basic and work from there. |
| 03:26.24 | modulus_ | ariel, i don't think you should be messing with perl |
| 03:26.26 | scythelx | ariel_: ok, but i am defining them in the dialplan AGI(test.pl|1|2|etc... |
| 03:26.30 | modulus_ | ariel, try html first |
| 03:26.43 | scythelx | just dont know how to access them in the AGI script |
| 03:26.45 | ariel_ | ok good night... |
| 03:26.49 | scythelx | $ARGV[0]? |
| 03:26.53 | Katty | ariel_: nini |
| 03:26.58 | modulus_ | *sigh* |
| 03:27.01 | modulus_ | ANOTHER ONE |
| 03:27.07 | modulus_ | I'M SURROUNDED BY THEM |
| 03:27.12 | Katty | haha |
| 03:27.18 | Katty | you don't want to be surrounded by them? |
| 03:27.21 | Katty | then why are you here? hmm? |
| 03:27.26 | Katty | better than the rest of us i take it |
| 03:27.27 | daved_ | ok.. i have a TDM400 with a single FXO module |
| 03:27.30 | daved_ | i can make calls out just fine |
| 03:27.35 | scythelx | modulus_: were u referring to me |
| 03:27.38 | daved_ | how do i configure which extension rings when i call comes in on that line? |
| 03:27.42 | modulus_ | scythelx, all arguments to perl are in @ARG |
| 03:27.56 | modulus_ | o |
| 03:27.56 | modulus_ | m |
| 03:27.56 | scythelx | ok thanks |
| 03:27.56 | modulus_ | g |
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| 03:27.59 | ariel_ | daved_, your context |
| 03:28.10 | ariel_ | context=incoming |
| 03:28.14 | modulus_ | daved_, you should start reading before pasting |
| 03:28.18 | Katty | ariel_: you're supposed be watching your 22 month old sleep |
| 03:28.37 | modulus_ | s/pasting/ircing/ |
| 03:28.44 | Katty | ariel_: stop being a geek and go be with your family :) |
| 03:28.46 | ariel_ | I am she is next to my kitchen counter. |
| 03:28.58 | Katty | k |
| 03:29.20 | Katty | aww, that was nice of you |
| 03:29.40 | Katty | i'm normally too worn out after putting up with windows clients all day to even think about making dinner |
| 03:30.30 | ariel_ | Katty, I now make time for it. I get my stress out when I go flying. Like I am in the morning. |
| 03:30.49 | modulus_ | perl -sle 'y.a-z.n-za-m.;print' -- -_="v'z fheebhaqrq ol vqvbgf" |
| 03:30.51 | Katty | ahh :) |
| 03:31.10 | modulus_ | i wish infobot could process perl in the chan |
| 03:31.20 | modulus_ | jbot perl -sle 'y.a-z.n-za-m.;print' -- -_="v'z fheebhaqrq ol vqvbgf" |
| 03:31.21 | mikegrb | ariel_: where you flying tommorow? |
| 03:31.32 | mikegrb | ariel_: tommorow I'm going pensacola, fl -> memphis -> nashville |
| 03:31.42 | ariel_ | I am going out to naples for lunch if the weather is good. |
| 03:31.49 | mikegrb | haha |
| 03:32.14 | ariel_ | It's just a 48 minute flight in my plane here But I make it in about 1.5 hours... |
| 03:32.26 | mikegrb | ahh |
| 03:32.49 | daved_ | modulus_, let's look at two examples from opposite spectrums of humanity shall we? there's ariel, who through 5 tokens and some punctuation just taught me what the hell these context things actually are.. vs trying to read 900 pages of manual written for people with MUCH more experience with pbx stuff than i have.... then there's you.. who wastes 6 tokens accomplishing nothing |
| 03:32.54 | Katty | i'm afraid flying would just make me terribly ill |
| 03:33.07 | Katty | height sick followed by motion sickness, etc |
| 03:33.29 | modulus_ | daved_, you're just dumb and bitter. whereas i am just bitter. |
| 03:34.01 | Katty | i just love it when you go looking for help and all people tell you is you're dumb, go learn |
| 03:34.01 | daved_ | right.. thank god for /ignore |
| 03:34.05 | modulus_ | and it's hardly 900 pages |
| 03:34.10 | Katty | daved_: ignore him :) |
| 03:34.22 | daved_ | Katty: already done, believe me :) |
| 03:34.31 | daved_ | ariel_: thanks very much, btw |
| 03:34.38 | ariel_ | Katty, you don't know what your missing. I love taking the plane out and opening the canopy and enjoying the air. |
| 03:34.45 | daved_ | the context stuff makes a lot more sense now.. seemed rather arbitrary from just reading the sample conf files |
| 03:34.51 | Katty | ariel_: i bet you're not height sick either though :P |
| 03:34.56 | modulus_ | daved_, you have to use the Dial() function in the dialplan |
| 03:35.10 | modulus_ | i feel like being helpful now |
| 03:35.16 | Katty | daved_: i know the least of all here, probably |
| 03:35.35 | Katty | daved_: i've barely got debian installed, thanks to a 22 page guide (hit enter, hit enter, hit enter, etc) |
| 03:35.35 | ariel_ | Katty, there are more pilots that are scared of hights then you know off. |
| 03:35.43 | daved_ | katty: i just got my digium hardware in the mail tonight, have been just toying with SIP stuff before this, and that was quite a pain :) |
| 03:35.46 | ariel_ | daved_, np |
| 03:35.49 | Katty | ariel_: gosh, how do they manage? |
| 03:35.53 | modulus_ | daved_, exten => 1,1,Dial(SIP/100) will dial sip user 100 if the caller presses 1 |
| 03:36.04 | ariel_ | there in control up there of the plane |
| 03:36.09 | modulus_ | daved_, that's a big useful thing that Dial() function |
| 03:36.20 | Katty | daved_: ya well, i'm just a windows tech really, even though i handle some network/server stuff. |
| 03:36.31 | modulus_ | katty, you handle networks? |
| 03:36.45 | Katty | daved_: just doing my best and luckily there are some good people out there to help me learn |
| 03:36.57 | Katty | daved_: god knows i'd be lost with people like ariel. |
| 03:37.02 | Katty | s/with/without |
| 03:37.14 | Katty | i updated the kernel today! |
| 03:37.20 | Katty | i was /so/ excited :> |
| 03:37.59 | Katty | ariel_: pffft. |
| 03:38.12 | Katty | i'm glad that people share information freely |
| 03:38.14 | paradoxical | ;) |
| 03:38.18 | daved_ | ariel_: mind if i ask you another question really quickly, because this is really confusing me |
| 03:38.19 | paradoxical | Upgrading kernel = good |
| 03:38.21 | paradoxical | Whatcha running now |
| 03:38.27 | paradoxical | What kernel, I mean. |
| 03:38.29 | Katty | paradoxical: hehe, you presume i remember? |
| 03:38.37 | paradoxical | HAHA ;) |
| 03:38.40 | Katty | paradoxical: hmm something revision 2 |
| 03:38.42 | Katty | 686 |
| 03:38.45 | paradoxical | Hummmmm |
| 03:38.46 | Katty | debian. |
| 03:38.53 | paradoxical | 2.6.X, I would imagine. |
| 03:38.55 | Katty | the box is off right now |
| 03:39.02 | paradoxical | s'all good |
| 03:39.07 | paradoxical | So no asterisk running, 'eh? ;) |
| 03:39.09 | Katty | i really don't know much ;) |
| 03:39.10 | ariel_ | paradoxical, I am very much into running stable I use 2.4.28 CentOS |
| 03:39.12 | daved_ | im trying to call in to the line hooked up via the fxo port on my TDM400 (calling from my cell) ... now the incoming context seems to work, and everything dials properly, i see the callerid come through on my sip phone from my cell.. but on the cell itself, the call seems to forward to its own voicemail after one ring (yet continues ringing the SIP phone) |
| 03:39.13 | Katty | hehehe, no |
| 03:39.21 | paradoxical | 2.4!? :( |
| 03:39.21 | paradoxical | Wow |
| 03:39.21 | paradoxical | lol |
| 03:39.38 | paradoxical | Linux tux 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 #2 SMP Sat Jan 29 09:50:05 EST 2005 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| 03:39.52 | ariel_ | paradoxical, it works and you don't have to jump throught any different setups to get it up and running. |
| 03:39.54 | Katty | paradoxical: pffft, i updated the kernel so i could get /headers/ |
| 03:40.00 | paradoxical | Hahaha |
| 03:40.11 | daved_ | my [incoming] context is s,1,Answer s,2,Dial(Local/6000) |
| 03:40.13 | paradoxical | ariel: true about the stability... Katty: what headers? |
| 03:40.15 | daved_ | anything else i need? |
| 03:40.34 | Katty | paradoxical: apparently i needed to get the kernel headers for compiiling stuff |
| 03:40.41 | Katty | paradoxical: and compiling is still a big word to me :) |
| 03:40.51 | ariel_ | Linux version 2.4.21-27.0.2.EL (centos@centos-athlon) |
| 03:41.10 | paradoxical | Wow...I'd say 2.6 is kinda stable if it's at 2.6.10 already ;) |
| 03:41.22 | ariel_ | I just love that if you want what you need in my system you just yum for it... |
| 03:41.34 | paradoxical | yum is pretty good |
| 03:41.38 | ariel_ | yum install kernel-source puts most of what you need. |
| 03:42.17 | paradoxical | Yah. |
| 03:42.26 | ariel_ | I use 2.6.8 on desktop but not my servers yet. |
| 03:42.46 | paradoxical | Cool |
| 03:43.20 | daved_ | why the hell would my cell jump to its own voicemail when calling in |
| 03:43.22 | daved_ | thats so weird |
| 03:43.30 | ariel_ | paradoxical, I am running 9 asterisk boxes I can't afford for them to go down. |
| 03:43.38 | Katty | now i shall ignore this channel. |
| 03:43.47 | Katty | because everyone talks entirely too much with big words i don't get |
| 03:43.58 | ariel_ | Katty, you will |
| 03:44.14 | Katty | ya, eventually (= |
| 03:45.14 | paradoxical | 9 BOXES? |
| 03:45.18 | paradoxical | Hahaha wow. |
| 03:45.20 | daved_ | this isso goddamn screwy |
| 03:45.22 | daved_ | wtf |
| 03:45.35 | ariel_ | daved_, what iso? |
| 03:45.51 | *** part/#asterisk Katty (~angela@68.112.15.110) |
| 03:45.57 | daved_ | read previous |
| 03:46.02 | daved_ | i call into my asterisk box from my cell |
| 03:46.12 | daved_ | and i get my own (cell's) voicemail |
| 03:46.12 | daved_ | after 1 ring |
| 03:46.21 | daved_ | i cant even fathom what would cause that |
| 03:46.45 | ariel_ | can you see anything on the cli? |
| 03:47.16 | daved_ | the s, extenstion in [incoming] dials an SIP phone |
| 03:47.17 | daved_ | and that works |
| 03:47.19 | daved_ | and the callerid is correct |
| 03:47.27 | daved_ | but it continues ringing even when i hangup cell |
| 03:48.24 | ariel_ | I have seen that. I have to think to remember why that would happen with cell's. |
| 03:48.56 | ariel_ | The continue ring is the sip did not know of the hangup. |
| 03:49.12 | ariel_ | takes sometimes 2 rings to stop. |
| 03:49.22 | daved_ | why would the cell get its own voicemail though |
| 03:49.26 | daved_ | when it calls in |
| 03:49.40 | daved_ | one ring then it shoots over to that |
| 03:50.10 | ariel_ | maybe it heard a tone to make it do that. Do you have another phone you can try? |
| 03:50.37 | daved_ | unfortunately not |
| 03:50.38 | eipi | anyone is using SIPPATH? |
| 03:52.00 | ariel_ | daved_, how did you configure your zaptel.conf and zapata.conf? use http://pastebin.ca ... |
| 03:54.04 | daved_ | http://www.pastebin.com/246460 |
| 03:54.16 | Qwell | BrianR___: non profit orgs are pretty much exempt from the telephone consumer protection act. |
| 03:54.47 | Qwell | about the only part they are covered by is c1A |
| 03:55.51 | Qwell | and I have to somehow prove that I asked them(repeatedly) to add me to their internal DNC |
| 03:56.08 | Qwell | Who makes these stupid laws, that have giant loopholes? |
| 03:56.26 | daved_ | Qwell: anonymous call blocking, my friend |
| 03:56.29 | daved_ | and blacklists |
| 03:56.38 | Qwell | daved_: I'm not paying Verizon for CID |
| 03:56.38 | ariel_ | daved_, it looks good. |
| 03:56.40 | Qwell | nor am I going to |
| 03:56.48 | Qwell | I could drive my truck through this loophole... |
| 03:57.10 | daved_ | Qwell, well then you can't really blame anyone when you have an easy fix that you won't take |
| 03:57.18 | daved_ | ariel_, it's really baffling me |
| 03:57.22 | Qwell | Its not an easy fix, its going to cost me money... |
| 03:57.24 | daved_ | the cell getting its own voicemail is weird |
| 03:57.38 | ariel_ | daved_, what is your device your calling on local/6000? |
| 03:57.45 | daved_ | its a macro |
| 03:58.03 | Qwell | wonder if I could have * prompt the person to press 1 if they aren't a telemarketer, and if they press 1, file a suit |
| 03:58.18 | daved_ | ariel: contents of the macro at http://pastebin.ca/6456 |
| 03:58.24 | ariel_ | Qwell, how about zapteller |
| 03:58.35 | Qwell | again, that would cost money |
| 03:58.39 | Qwell | oh, heh |
| 03:58.56 | Qwell | yeah...misread that, thought about that little device |
| 03:58.57 | daved_ | how much is cid? like 2 bucks a month? worth it for the peace of mind that comes with anon call blocking |
| 03:59.25 | Qwell | Verizon wants like $4 or so |
| 03:59.40 | Qwell | yeah, its a small amount, but...I'll be damned if I'm gonna pay it |
| 03:59.43 | bjohnson | Bell wants $8 |
| 03:59.51 | bjohnson | and zapateller relies on CID |
| 04:00.06 | bjohnson | from what I understand |
| 04:00.08 | Qwell | well, that sucks |
| 04:00.11 | daved_ | ariel_, this is a vonage line, btw.. im using their little router magic thingey and running phone cable between that and my tdm400.. would that make any difference? |
| 04:00.17 | bjohnson | you normally run it against people wothout CID |
| 04:00.29 | Qwell | Whats it do, send some signal? |
| 04:00.30 | bjohnson | daved_: likely |
| 04:00.41 | Qwell | "No person at this number" type of thing? |
| 04:00.51 | bjohnson | Qwell: something like that |
| 04:01.01 | bjohnson | Qwell: more accurate info on the wiki |
| 04:01.08 | Qwell | See, with something like that, it WOULD block legitimate calls |
| 04:01.08 | daved_ | all you have to do is play that three-tone signal |
| 04:01.09 | paradoxical | ...question for y'all (ariel?)... What "SNTP" server do you use? I have an NTP server, but for some reason my 7960 doesn't want to sync with the linux ntp deamon that is running. |
| 04:01.14 | ariel_ | daved_, no but you never know. |
| 04:01.44 | ariel_ | daved_, if you put a regular phone on the device can you call it from your cell? |
| 04:01.45 | Qwell | if my bank calls me to say "we just saw some unauthorized charges on your account, call us", I want that call |
| 04:01.47 | bjohnson | paradoxical: darnd if I know .. whetever comes with fedora |
| 04:01.51 | paradoxical | Okay. |
| 04:02.02 | daved_ | ariel_, i dont have a regular phone unfortunately |
| 04:02.23 | daved_ | Qwell, bank will likely not be calling anonymous |
| 04:02.28 | Qwell | daved_: They do |
| 04:02.28 | daved_ | the only people that do are phonespammers |
| 04:02.40 | ariel_ | paradoxical, I use time.apple.com |
| 04:02.41 | bjohnson | he needs CID to know that |
| 04:02.43 | Qwell | got one of those calls on my cell once, number was unavail |
| 04:02.46 | Qwell | that too, heh |
| 04:02.51 | daved_ | Qwell, how would you know? you cant afford cid? :P |
| 04:02.53 | Qwell | without CID, I'd end up sending the signal to all calls |
| 04:02.59 | bjohnson | yes |
| 04:03.08 | Qwell | rock - me - hard_place |
| 04:03.35 | bjohnson | time for an ivr that warns off telemarketers |
| 04:03.37 | paradoxical | I meant what daemon you use...not the time server. |
| 04:03.37 | paradoxical | sry |
| 04:03.42 | Qwell | about the only thing I can do, is rely on the local PD... |
| 04:03.48 | Qwell | but, GUESS WHO the calls are coming from?! |
| 04:04.01 | Qwell | I'll say it again...stupid fucking loopholes. |
| 04:04.05 | daved_ | wtf would the local PD do about phonespammers? |
| 04:04.09 | ariel_ | paradoxical, I use the one that CentOS or what comes as default with RHE 3 |
| 04:04.17 | bjohnson | THEY don't know you don't have CID |
| 04:04.19 | Qwell | daved_: They call every night. I'm at about 15 since I moved in |
| 04:04.29 | bjohnson | THEY also don't know if you have some way to track them |
| 04:04.29 | Qwell | I moved less then a month and a half ago |
| 04:04.37 | daved_ | yes, and what is the local pd going to do bout it? |
| 04:04.38 | bjohnson | hell .. how many houses have an IVR |
| 04:04.58 | Qwell | daved_: same thing they'd do about normal harrassment - repeated prank calls, etc. got me |
| 04:05.10 | Qwell | likely nothing, especially when its them calling me in the first place |
| 04:05.15 | daved_ | Qwell, but it's legal, so they cant do anything |
| 04:05.23 | Qwell | harrassment isn't legal... |
| 04:05.36 | daved_ | telemarketing within the bounds of law isn't harassment |
| 04:05.49 | ariel_ | I have to go folks. See you in the morning. Wife is home and it's friday night...........Kids asleep...... |
| 04:05.51 | daved_ | so you can keep bitching, or shell out $4 a month for CID, which along with a great number of benefits could help you put a stop to all of this |
| 04:05.55 | daved_ | ariel_, enjoy :) |
| 04:05.58 | bjohnson | ariel_: go get some |
| 04:06.01 | Qwell | (45 - 10) / 15 = 2.x |
| 04:06.05 | Qwell | I get a call every other night |
| 04:06.19 | Qwell | more frequent this week and last |
| 04:06.26 | Qwell | oh, they don't call on weekends |
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| 04:06.36 | Qwell | so subtract about 10-15 days there |
| 04:07.33 | daved_ | qwell: so when it's raining outside.. do you bitch about the rain, or shell out a few bucks on an umbrella? |
| 04:07.42 | daved_ | because god forbid you should have to pay for an umbrella to stop the rain |
| 04:07.44 | Qwell | daved_: I bitch about the rain. |
| 04:07.53 | Qwell | an umbrella is $5, one time |
| 04:07.58 | Qwell | CID is $4 for the rest of my life? |
| 04:08.05 | daved_ | get a better phone provider? |
| 04:08.11 | daved_ | it comes for free with my phone line |
| 04:08.14 | Qwell | another loophole there, bud |
| 04:08.18 | daved_ | and my phone line is only $16/mo |
| 04:08.25 | daved_ | how so? |
| 04:08.31 | Qwell | not a loophole, heh |
| 04:08.39 | Qwell | We only have Verizon |
| 04:08.43 | daved_ | vonage |
| 04:08.52 | daved_ | we only have bellsouth.. they sucked.. i went vonage |
| 04:09.08 | daved_ | you always have options |
| 04:09.30 | daved_ | 16/mo and i get all of the fancy features like cid and all of that other crap i wont use |
| 04:09.30 | Qwell | So, I get vonage, I buy an FXO for $100... |
| 04:09.45 | daved_ | or you get vonage and just plug a phone into it like you're doing now |
| 04:09.51 | daved_ | vonage sends you a voip router |
| 04:09.57 | daved_ | plug internet in one side, phone in the other |
| 04:09.58 | daved_ | magic |
| 04:10.34 | Qwell | meh |
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| 04:13.14 | Qwell | I get Vonage for $16 a month, and when I hit 500 minutes, I get charged $.04 to deal with more telemarketers |
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| 04:23.08 | odie_flocon | does anybody use the convrenece??? |
| 04:23.30 | odie_flocon | hey denon / twisted. |
| 04:23.31 | MikeJ[Jayden] | convrenece? |
| 04:24.29 | odie_flocon | yeah |
| 04:24.35 | |Vulture| | never heard of them |
| 04:24.46 | odie_flocon | the IAX@/guest@66.250.68.194/996 |
| 04:24.55 | Qwell | conference |
| 04:24.56 | |Vulture| | conferance |
| 04:25.00 | |Vulture| | yea that |
| 04:25.02 | |Vulture| | lol |
| 04:25.03 | JerJer | conferance |
| 04:25.03 | odie_flocon | typo |
| 04:25.08 | Qwell | ance? |
| 04:25.17 | JerJer | confearance |
| 04:25.25 | Qwell | I fear acne |
| 04:25.26 | |Vulture| | hey were computer ppl not english majors |
| 04:25.37 | JerJer | me fail english, that's unpossible |
| 04:25.52 | |Vulture| | yea JerJer is the bestust speller |
| 04:25.58 | Qwell | geeks don't misspell words. :p |
| 04:26.06 | JerJer | broken keyboards do |
| 04:26.11 | Qwell | indeed |
| 04:26.18 | odie_flocon | hey jerjer. |
| 04:26.23 | JerJer | mooo |
| 04:26.26 | |Vulture| | I believe the 996 conf is listen only |
| 04:26.37 | Qwell | on certain days, I believe |
| 04:26.45 | Qwell | like during the dev conf, for instance |
| 04:26.47 | JerJer | there is always IAX2/asterisk@switch-2.nufone.net/4569 |
| 04:26.50 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (~chatzilla@245.195.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 04:26.56 | JerJer | and hell i think switch-1 has the same |
| 04:26.56 | Qwell | JerJer: Whats that? |
| 04:27.01 | Qwell | random conf line? |
| 04:27.08 | JerJer | just a open conf |
| 04:27.11 | marc32344 | what is the difference between T100P and TE110P ? |
| 04:27.12 | Qwell | ahh |
| 04:27.21 | JerJer | an e and a 1 |
| 04:27.24 | |Vulture| | Ill add it |
| 04:27.26 | Qwell | and the missing 0 |
| 04:27.29 | MikeJ[Jayden] | nice jer jer |
| 04:27.32 | Qwell | JerJer: very active? |
| 04:27.37 | MikeJ[Jayden] | t100p is retired |
| 04:27.53 | MikeJ[Jayden] | te110p is next gen and supports e1 on same card |
| 04:27.56 | odie_flocon | very retired. |
| 04:28.07 | JerJer | Qwell: don't even really know... we've got so much traffic now its hard to keep track sometimes |
| 04:28.08 | marc32344 | what is the improvement? |
| 04:28.12 | Qwell | heh |
| 04:28.28 | Qwell | so, JerJer never takes part in his own conf? ;] |
| 04:28.32 | MikeJ[Jayden] | you can still get t100p's from resellers, about $100 less, but the te seems to be a better card in general |
| 04:28.46 | JerJer | the TE cards are based on Infieon chipsets instead of Dallas |
| 04:28.56 | JerJer | newer silicon |
| 04:29.06 | JerJer | does more, less work for host to deal with |
| 04:29.16 | marc32344 | cpu load? |
| 04:29.25 | MikeJ[Jayden] | jiz load |
| 04:29.32 | |Vulture| | aww I am the only person in the conf |
| 04:29.39 | MikeJ[Jayden] | what conf? |
| 04:29.41 | JerJer | TE based cards are a lot nicer on the cpu |
| 04:29.52 | |Vulture| | IAX2/asterisk@switch-2.nufone.net/4569 |
| 04:30.05 | MikeJ[Jayden] | prolly, no one likes JerJer ;) |
| 04:30.13 | |Vulture| | lol |
| 04:30.34 | marc32344 | but with one T100P installed, cpu load should not be an issue. |
| 04:30.40 | |Vulture| | JerJer: how many channels does nufone allow open at a time per account? |
| 04:31.09 | JerJer | all of them |
| 04:31.17 | MikeJ[Jayden] | nice |
| 04:32.20 | JerJer | except our MIchigan DIDs, we do keep one eyeball on the amount of simultaneous channels |
| 04:32.47 | Qwell | for 300-400 people, is 13 T1s (10 ld, 3 local) common? |
| 04:33.07 | MikeJ[Jayden] | it depends how much they are onthe phone |
| 04:33.10 | Qwell | I asked our "phone lady" yesterday about out system, and thats what she said |
| 04:33.11 | JerJer | but i really don't care....nobody seems to have enough legitimate traffic to saturate either of our networks (tdm or ip) |
| 04:33.19 | Qwell | people aren't on the phone THAT much |
| 04:33.36 | Qwell | hell, thats what...(quick failed math) 290 calls? |
| 04:33.40 | marc32344 | the T100p can be had for $450, while the Te110 is $590. |
| 04:33.49 | CoaxD | JerJer: I could of course see to it that we had enough illegitimate traffic to saturate at least your ip network :-) |
| 04:33.55 | MikeJ[Jayden] | we have 1 office with ~100 ppl, with 3 pri's (2,ld 1 local)...the second ld never gets touched |
| 04:34.23 | Qwell | is it also common to pay the same fee (~$.02/m) for ld and local? |
| 04:34.27 | JerJer | CoaxD: 24 gigabits aggregate... good luck |
| 04:34.35 | CoaxD | JerJer: at one time, i coulda done it |
| 04:34.36 | MikeJ[Jayden] | we have another office with 8 ld pris, and 2 local for ~150 ppl, and we saturate 5-6 often |
| 04:34.41 | CoaxD | jerjer; no more, tho :/ |
| 04:34.42 | Qwell | hmm |
| 04:35.04 | JerJer | i'm getting pissed at US Signal |
| 04:35.08 | hardwire | I love sip qualify |
| 04:35.09 | Qwell | ~64k per call... |
| 04:35.11 | MikeJ[Jayden] | te110 for $575 at bsdmall |
| 04:35.16 | Qwell | Thats gonna be alot of calls to saturate 24gbit |
| 04:35.25 | JerJer | they are taking their sweet time with our new oc-12 |
| 04:35.27 | Qwell | (surely, alot of that is already used, but still) |
| 04:35.32 | CoaxD | Qwell: Heh. dude, for sure |
| 04:35.44 | Qwell | CoaxD: You'd need quite a few boxes to handle the calls, heh |
| 04:35.53 | CoaxD | Qwell: Well, sorta |
| 04:36.11 | CoaxD | Qwell: If it was all alaw or ulaw, you could do quite a few channels per box |
| 04:36.25 | |Vulture| | MikeJ[Jayden]: is the TE worth the difference from the T100P |
| 04:36.34 | CoaxD | Qwell: I do GSM to NuFone. obviously, to do too many of those would be..well, hard unless you had LOTS of servers :) |
| 04:36.39 | JerJer | |Vulture|: most certainly |
| 04:36.47 | MikeJ[Jayden] | there you go ^^ |
| 04:36.50 | Qwell | CoaxD: Thats only (by my failed math) 375,000 simul calls |
| 04:36.54 | |Vulture| | :) then I know my answer |
| 04:37.15 | CoaxD | Vulture: Your math is correct, with 1 problem |
| 04:37.18 | Qwell | even if it WAS ulaw/alaw, heh |
| 04:37.25 | CoaxD | Vulture: ulaw and alaw both use 80kbit/sec aggregate |
| 04:37.56 | Qwell | so, 300,000 |
| 04:38.00 | MikeJ[Jayden] | almost midnight movie time... :) |
| 04:38.06 | CoaxD | qwell: Which is roughly 300k calls :) |
| 04:38.15 | CoaxD | (Well, not roughly, actually. precisely. But it'd never work out to just that.) |
| 04:38.20 | Qwell | heh |
| 04:38.29 | Qwell | So, even if you could do 1,000 calls per server... :P |
| 04:38.41 | CoaxD | Qwell: 1,000 calls.. hmm... |
| 04:38.46 | MikeJ[Jayden] | JerJer.. you must be on this chan 20 hrs a day. |
| 04:39.03 | Qwell | that sounds exceptionally high to me...my lacking voip knowledge |
| 04:39.08 | CoaxD | thats um. a lot of bandwidth |
| 04:39.23 | brc_ | MikeJ[Jayden], 25 |
| 04:39.28 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ~seen hermie |
| 04:39.29 | jbot | hermie is currently on #asterisk-doc (4h 55m 14s) #asterisk (4h 55m 14s). Has said a total of 20 messages. Is idling for 2h 31m 13s |
| 04:39.34 | MikeJ[Jayden] | brc ? huh? |
| 04:39.36 | MikeJ[Jayden] | o |
| 04:39.39 | MikeJ[Jayden] | never mind |
| 04:39.39 | CoaxD | 80mbit/sec a box |
| 04:39.45 | Qwell | 1000 calls on a server would saturate a 100mbit connection (with overhead) |
| 04:39.51 | CoaxD | Qwell: Newp |
| 04:39.55 | CoaxD | Qwell: But just about :) |
| 04:40.03 | Qwell | well, you know what I mean |
| 04:40.15 | Qwell | thats if the box could even handle 1,000 calls, heh |
| 04:40.16 | MikeJ[Jayden] | need to get a bigger bus :D |
| 04:40.30 | Qwell | and it would still take 100 servers |
| 04:40.32 | CoaxD | Qwell: The box itself (with a high resolution timer, of course) could handle that many |
| 04:40.36 | Qwell | erm, 300 |
| 04:40.38 | CoaxD | qwell: with ulaw |
| 04:40.52 | Qwell | it'd be a damn large job, to say the least :p |
| 04:40.59 | CoaxD | well sure |
| 04:41.06 | CoaxD | but not beyond a processors' capabilities |
| 04:41.12 | CoaxD | i.e. for a box of today |
| 04:41.13 | Qwell | I mean the 300,000 calls thing |
| 04:41.22 | CoaxD | Oh. *THAT*, yeah, THAT would be TOUHG |
| 04:41.58 | CoaxD | You'd need 300 boxen plus about a hundred more for the fact that rough formula-driven calculations dont WORK in the real world ;) |
| 04:42.03 | Qwell | heh |
| 04:42.06 | stilexIP | if your doing 300,000 calls wouldnt you wany a more commerical application |
| 04:42.10 | Qwell | plus another 50, because the 100 is only an estimate |
| 04:42.15 | marc32344 | but do give an estimate |
| 04:42.18 | CoaxD | stilexIP: no |
| 04:42.32 | Qwell | stilexIP: We're obviously tired, theorizing about stupid random stuff... |
| 04:42.42 | Qwell | well, not stupid. definitely random though |
| 04:42.46 | stilexIP | :p |
| 04:42.49 | CoaxD | stilexIP: I sure wouldnt want to be using anything but asterisk in a situation that large |
| 04:43.10 | stilexIP | bo yeah |
| 04:43.14 | CoaxD | stilex: Truth is, needing to handle 300,000 simultaneous callers? I'd be fired before the business got off the ground. *lol* |
| 04:43.34 | stilexIP | i dunno thats a crazy amount |
| 04:43.38 | CoaxD | indeed it is |
| 04:43.42 | Qwell | You could probably call the entire city of LA at the same time. |
| 04:43.43 | Qwell | heh |
| 04:43.50 | CoaxD | but truth is, there are many more simultaneous connections than that on the standard pstn network |
| 04:44.12 | stilexIP | how would that even connect with asterisk with a TNT? |
| 04:44.29 | CoaxD | stilexIP: Very. Very. Carefully. |
| 04:44.46 | Qwell | stop spoiling our fun :p |
| 04:45.11 | CoaxD | judging from the fact that your average asterisk box couldnt handle more 3 quad T1 cards, that locks you to about 288 channels anyway |
| 04:45.27 | CoaxD | it oculd probably handle it if everything on the box was solely alaw or ulaw |
| 04:45.41 | CoaxD | damn, i hate being inhibited by processor speed |
| 04:45.43 | stilexIP | so theres no way that asterisk could handle a ds3 |
| 04:45.55 | Qwell | stilexIP: sure it could...just distributed |
| 04:45.58 | CoaxD | stilexIP: Dude, thats 672 channels all at once |
| 04:46.02 | stilexIP | yeah i know |
| 04:46.10 | Qwell | oh, 672 is all? :p |
| 04:46.31 | stilexIP | how does nufone do it if they have 3 ds3 lines |
| 04:46.40 | CoaxD | stilexip: Very. very. carefully. :) :) |
| 04:47.00 | stilexIP | I just dont understand how that would wokr |
| 04:47.07 | Qwell | the load would obviously be distributed |
| 04:47.24 | CoaxD | stilexip; The load is distributed. i'm not sure of the interface gear, but he's got quite a few servers running. thats for sure |
| 04:47.39 | stilexIP | meaning..multiple * boxes or just special hard ware |
| 04:47.45 | Qwell | both? |
| 04:47.47 | CoaxD | stilexip: Also, realize that they're not "real" DS3's |
| 04:47.48 | stilexIP | I dunno what type of card you would have in the ast box |
| 04:47.49 | Qwell | mostly the first |
| 04:48.02 | stilexIP | well its all virtual |
| 04:48.06 | CoaxD | stilexip: I mean they are, but they're not run via local loop. its just a wire from across the room |
| 04:48.08 | stilexIP | TDM crossconnect? |
| 04:50.30 | odie_flocon | why would you implement * for that many calls? |
| 04:50.39 | odie_flocon | if you have an application that big. |
| 04:50.44 | odie_flocon | you obviously have money. |
| 04:50.53 | odie_flocon | in which case, put in a Class 5 switch. |
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| 04:57.19 | CoaxD | odie_flocon: Can a class 5 switch do voip? :) |
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| 05:00.18 | odie_flocon | if you find the right one it can. |
| 05:01.40 | odie_flocon | for example Metaswitch |
| 05:04.04 | odie_flocon | they have an Ip offering. |
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| 05:06.01 | eipi | hi, anyone is usib SIPUSERS with odbc? |
| 05:06.11 | eipi | hi, anyone is using SIPUSERS with odbc? |
| 05:08.27 | eipi | no one? |
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| 05:08.34 | NTJOCK | hello |
| 05:08.52 | NTJOCK | whats a good way to test a FXS port? Isn't there a config and diagnostic tool? |
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| 05:14.04 | mikes2277 | anyone know how to make Windows XP ICS (internet connection sharing) work? |
| 05:14.12 | mikes2277 | with SIP that is... |
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| 05:16.28 | eipi | mikes: look at google for ics voip ports |
| 05:16.38 | Grooby | spa 841 is pretty cool |
| 05:16.46 | Grooby | i hope my brother can figure out how to use it |
| 05:16.47 | Grooby | lol |
| 05:16.53 | Grooby | installed it in his room |
| 05:18.21 | eipi | hi, anyone is using SIPUSERS with odbc? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< i need help... i cant believe that no one is using odbc for sip users |
| 05:19.14 | eipi | ;) |
| 05:19.50 | neopher | iam am though AMP |
| 05:20.09 | coppice | stepcutHM: if that kind of attitude catches on, what will become of Samsung's share price? :-) |
| 05:20.55 | stepcutHM | coppice: hrm... good question |
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| 05:23.07 | MrEntropy | yo |
| 05:23.20 | odie_flocon | yo |
| 05:23.39 | stepcutHM | anyone tried using a bluetooth headset with a softphone ? |
| 05:26.52 | coppice | stepcutHM: works OK with windows. I had iaxcomm working with it on Linux too. chan_bluetooth doesn't work |
| 05:28.34 | stepcutHM | interesting |
| 05:29.12 | stepcutHM | what about usb handsets with a softphone ? |
| 05:29.38 | coppice | stepcutHM: I believe only a few bluetooth cellphones can work with a softphone, though |
| 05:30.22 | stepcutHM | coppice: yeah, I am not interested in getting the phone to work, just the headset |
| 05:30.46 | stepcutHM | s/phone/cellphone/ |
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| 05:31.27 | coppice | I used an Ericsson 660 and an Omiz something or other headset. They seemed to work OK with a bluetooth dongle on the PC |
| 05:31.30 | stepcutHM | it is quite annoying to not have a seperate audio devices for phone and mp3s |
| 05:32.49 | stepcutHM | I have a budget for home, but I need something to use with my laptop, and a bluetooth headset seems like the right size |
| 05:33.18 | JerJer | i would like to figure out if it is possible to turn the headset or hands free directly upside down |
| 05:33.34 | JerJer | ie make the celly use bluetooth to place a telephone call |
| 05:34.12 | stepcutHM | dunno.. |
| 05:34.53 | stepcutHM | I have unlimited data on my cell plan, so it would be nice to make VOIP calls via the data channel, but the ping time is like ~800ms :) |
| 05:35.12 | JerJer | seems to me one would need an app on the phone that would know to dial out bluetooth |
| 05:35.26 | JerJer | stepcutHM: yeah voip over gprs doesn't cut it, i've tried |
| 05:35.36 | CoaxD | jerjer: Thats asuming its possible at all |
| 05:35.59 | *** part/#asterisk paradoxical (~paradox@cpe-065-187-240-050.nc.rr.com) |
| 05:36.08 | JerJer | CoaxD: yeah, i have almost zero technical knowledge of bluetooth |
| 05:36.12 | neopher | hmm, i did voip over gprs ok |
| 05:36.15 | stepcutHM | if they can spread phone viruses via bluetooth, surely the phone can make outgoing bluetooth connections :) |
| 05:36.19 | JerJer | neopher: interesting |
| 05:36.27 | CoaxD | what the hell would the point be |
| 05:36.30 | neopher | what codec did you use? |
| 05:36.32 | stepcutHM | neopher: which provider ? |
| 05:36.33 | CoaxD | (Seeing as thouhg you've got a celphone in your hands) |
| 05:36.43 | stepcutHM | CoaxD: unlimited minutes |
| 05:36.45 | JerJer | CoaxD: when i am in range of my Asterisk boxen, use it |
| 05:36.46 | neopher | at&t |
| 05:36.56 | CoaxD | stepcutHM: Now that is TRUE |
| 05:37.07 | JerJer | neopher: hmm same here... i had evil amounts of latency when i tried |
| 05:37.19 | neopher | what codec? |
| 05:37.31 | JerJer | neopher: perhaps u are in a EDGE coverage |
| 05:37.33 | stepcutHM | me has cingular -- though I have not checked the latency recently |
| 05:38.01 | JerJer | if I didn't have my own goddamn tower, nobody out here would have celly service |
| 05:38.08 | JerJer | stupid lame ass cell telcos |
| 05:38.13 | CoaxD | i would like to use gprs.. But jesus, thats a lot of dough to be throwing around for such little you actually get |
| 05:38.47 | JerJer | CoaxD: its not too bad... i pay like 68 a month and use IM and jack into my craptop all the time with it |
| 05:38.48 | CoaxD | jerjer: Explain how you got your own cel tower? :) |
| 05:39.01 | JerJer | CoaxD: i just own the tower |
| 05:39.04 | CoaxD | jerjer: yeah, way too expensive. |
| 05:39.10 | CoaxD | jerjer; $30/mo is too much for slow internet |
| 05:39.23 | neopher | JerJer: did you try using 723 codec, 6.3k encoding rate greatly reduces latency |
| 05:39.32 | CoaxD | i.e. $20/mo + $10.00/mo for an "added line" from t-mobile is what i'd hafta pay |
| 05:39.39 | coppice | Generally Priced to Restrict Service |
| 05:39.48 | CoaxD | coppice: Beautiful. |
| 05:39.48 | JerJer | i went and solicited a roaming carrier just so there could be digital service out here |
| 05:39.54 | CoaxD | JerJer: Ahhh |
| 05:40.02 | JerJer | neopher: nope, but I will try again when i have a chance |
| 05:40.09 | CoaxD | JerJer; and said "Hi, i'll let you put a tower on my roof for free!" |
| 05:40.21 | neopher | i want to find a device that i can use old tdma phone with * |
| 05:40.31 | stepcutHM | neopher: what phone/app where you using ? |
| 05:40.39 | JerJer | cell socket? |
| 05:41.02 | Sedorox | I wanna cell socket.. but they dun make one for mine.. :/ |
| 05:41.09 | JerJer | CoaxD: more like, i have a 199' tower out back and want your gear on it |
| 05:41.26 | CoaxD | jerjer: hehe |
| 05:41.32 | neopher | no, not a cell socket |
| 05:41.35 | CoaxD | jerjer: What on earth do you have a 199' tower in your backyard for? :) |
| 05:41.37 | dersteer | I would love a 199' tower :) |
| 05:41.40 | JerJer | WISP |
| 05:41.48 | JerJer | ARES repeater |
| 05:41.50 | dersteer | thats what I plan on starting |
| 05:41.52 | neopher | i want to have tdma phone trunkate on my * |
| 05:41.53 | dersteer | WISP |
| 05:41.56 | Sedorox | lol |
| 05:42.39 | JerJer | I just mounted an HDTV antenna at 50' today :) |
| 05:42.57 | neopher | and then steal jerjer's tower when i get the phones working on my * box |
| 05:42.57 | Beirdo | that musta been painful |
| 05:43.10 | dersteer | JerJer: what kind of antenna's are u using for your WISP? |
| 05:43.44 | coppice | I just saw Taipei 101 for the first time since they finished it. That might make a good radio tower :-) |
| 05:43.49 | Beirdo | JerJer: you're a ham operator on top of it all? ;) |
| 05:44.04 | JerJer | http://www.wisp-router.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_63_45&products_id=135 |
| 05:44.10 | JerJer | 13 dbi version |
| 05:44.17 | JerJer | Beirdo: 73 de n8twj |
| 05:44.28 | Beirdo | 73 de va3hgj |
| 05:44.37 | Beirdo | I need to buy me some gear though :) |
| 05:44.51 | af_ | I am wondering how could I insert a softphone on a cliackable web link |
| 05:45.03 | JerJer | af_ bleh |
| 05:45.04 | dersteer | JerJer: those antenna's don't work that well... a omni is the worst one |
| 05:45.18 | af_ | looking at xten stuffs, they appears not anymore available |
| 05:45.25 | JerJer | dersteer: works damn good for what i'm doing |
| 05:45.34 | Beirdo | dersteer: depends on how close you are to the transmitters, of course |
| 05:45.53 | neopher | af_: same here, i want a java or asp based sip softphone |
| 05:46.04 | Beirdo | and for a repeater, omnis are nice if you have the power |
| 05:46.08 | dersteer | http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/hg2414hsp-090.php |
| 05:46.12 | dersteer | there is a antenna :) |
| 05:46.23 | af_ | there is webiax, but just I don't understand how to put on the web |
| 05:47.03 | JerJer | dersteer: yeah, eventually we will need to throw up a round of sectors |
| 05:47.16 | JerJer | but for now the omni is doing a killer job |
| 05:47.37 | JerJer | i've done a micro cell type system |
| 05:47.42 | dersteer | JerJer: I'm using 4 of those with a 1 watt amp |
| 05:47.42 | neopher | i have that antenna, work ok, i found if you get your hands on the window mount xm radio antenna from turk, it works better, 27 db gain |
| 05:47.58 | JerJer | lots of smaller access points |
| 05:48.02 | JerJer | eek amps are bad |
| 05:48.16 | dersteer | JerJer: not if u get a good high quality amp :) |
| 05:48.31 | dersteer | its actually made my radio more sensitive |
| 05:48.53 | JerJer | you raise your noise floor with any amp |
| 05:49.00 | Beirdo | it's always amusing seeng people lecture a ham on how radio stuff works |
| 05:49.25 | Sedorox | lol |
| 05:49.41 | Sedorox | eswwwwaasqwdeswadddddj-'[.;p0lo98ki76 |
| 05:49.46 | Sedorox | sorry |
| 05:49.46 | dersteer | I'm working on my ham radio license... and this isn't ham radio stuff.. this is fixed wireless stuff :) |
| 05:50.01 | Beirdo | radio is radio is radio |
| 05:50.01 | JerJer | Sedorox: cat walk on your keyboard? :) |
| 05:50.07 | dersteer | I've learned thru trial and error |
| 05:50.14 | Sedorox | no.. was cleaning it off by running my hand down it |
| 05:50.14 | dersteer | I have lots of money in wireless equipment |
| 05:50.14 | neopher | ohh, your talking ham, i though we were talking 2.4ghz wifi |
| 05:50.16 | Sedorox | didn't mean to hit the enter |
| 05:50.22 | JerJer | i wana find time to play with software a defined radio card |
| 05:50.28 | JerJer | could be interesting |
| 05:51.02 | Beirdo | neopher: my point is... of anyone, a ham understands RF better than almost anyone else |
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| 05:51.30 | extremis | has anyone claimed the freebsd zaptel bounty? |
| 05:51.42 | Beirdo | extremis: you lookin to do it? |
| 05:51.42 | neopher | no turkey is better, hehe |
| 05:52.21 | extremis | bierdo: negative, but I can add to the bounty |
| 05:52.44 | Beirdo | cool, I'm sure that would help for whoever finally takes it on :) |
| 05:53.34 | CoaxD | so what, they're offering a bounty for a working zaptel driver for fbsd? |
| 05:53.53 | Sedorox | zaptel works on fbsd... |
| 05:54.05 | Beirdo | ~bounty |
| 05:54.08 | neopher | http://voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=FreeBSD%20zaptel |
| 05:54.27 | eipi | im trying to develop a web interface with a SIP USERS CRUD... but i cant make work sip users thru odbc... anyone can help me? |
| 05:54.35 | extremis | sedorox: sweet |
| 05:54.42 | Sedorox | hmmm |
| 05:54.48 | Sedorox | well for X100P's anyway |
| 05:54.51 | Sedorox | and their clones |
| 05:54.53 | extremis | I have one |
| 05:54.58 | CoaxD | nifty |
| 05:55.12 | extremis | hells yeah, this box deserves freebsd |
| 05:55.14 | Sedorox | 'cause I have a system here... and another dude has one.. FBSD 5.3.. both running zaptal on X100ps |
| 05:55.15 | extremis | dual 800mhz |
| 05:55.20 | Sedorox | lol |
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| 05:55.27 | extremis | I got it for 115 |
| 05:55.37 | af_ | neopher: look like this webiax do the work, you just need a m$ web server :( |
| 05:55.37 | extremis | in a 2U 19" full depth case |
| 05:55.44 | Sedorox | wow |
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| 05:56.20 | extremis | yeah, its to replace my old compaq deskpro for my asterisk server |
| 05:56.21 | extremis | hah |
| 05:56.36 | JerJer | af_ what is the problem with having a simple file for someone to download? |
| 05:56.44 | JerJer | then u register the callto: handler |
| 05:56.47 | JerJer | problem solved |
| 05:58.01 | dersteer | JerJer: what kind of radio's do u use for WISP? |
| 05:58.15 | neopher | af_: i have an ms web server, come to think of it, i have 6 |
| 05:58.44 | JerJer | EZY1100 |
| 05:58.57 | af_ | JerJer: what kind of file? |
| 05:58.58 | JerJer | and a RedLine 5ghz backhaul |
| 05:59.08 | JerJer | af: the soft fone |
| 05:59.20 | af_ | JerJer: like diax? |
| 05:59.30 | af_ | or whatever |
| 05:59.33 | JerJer | i wouldn't use diax, but sure |
| 06:00.10 | af_ | well, it's a customer's request: he wants a link that setup just a specific call to some(one-thing) |
| 06:00.28 | JerJer | callto://bob@some.domain.com |
| 06:00.30 | af_ | you see, just dial a number |
| 06:00.42 | JerJer | or why do it via the web at all? |
| 06:00.51 | JerJer | have a Click to call me button |
| 06:01.00 | af_ | JerJer: uhm which brwser support that syntax? |
| 06:01.03 | JerJer | click, user punches in his own telephone number and it magically rings |
| 06:01.06 | JerJer | af_ all of them |
| 06:01.22 | JerJer | provided the handler is registered |
| 06:01.38 | af_ | oh, what kind of handler? |
| 06:01.56 | *** part/#asterisk cblackbu (~cblackbu@c-24-23-43-130.client.comcast.net) |
| 06:02.18 | JerJer | http://tinyurl.com/309w |
| 06:02.38 | dersteer | JerJer: I use a cisco aironet 1300 on the tower. |
| 06:02.57 | dersteer | haven't figured out exactly what I wanna use for clients |
| 06:02.59 | JerJer | don't like borgsoft fool you, it is not ~just~ for brokenmeeting |
| 06:03.17 | JerJer | that was just the first link i found |
| 06:03.50 | af_ | uhm. |
| 06:03.52 | JerJer | dersteer: use something with a radius client.... makes it stoooopid simple to admin and manage |
| 06:04.03 | JerJer | and secure |
| 06:04.58 | dersteer | I've been able to pick up by signal 7 miles away... according to GPS :) |
| 06:05.07 | dersteer | I can't wait to get a net connection in for it |
| 06:05.18 | JerJer | longest link we have is 19 miles on 2.4 |
| 06:05.26 | JerJer | on 5.8 its like 8ish |
| 06:05.39 | JerJer | welll client |
| 06:05.49 | dersteer | on a OMNI :O |
| 06:05.56 | dersteer | I couldn't get mine to go out over 3 miles |
| 06:06.07 | JerJer | the one 5ghz backhaul we have is 27 miles |
| 06:06.28 | JerJer | dersteer: that is a horizontal omni...big difference versus vertical |
| 06:06.35 | Sedorox | well we're gonna find out how good FreeWorldTel is |
| 06:06.40 | JerJer | then we have Rootennas on client prem |
| 06:06.51 | dersteer | I was using a vertical omni.... it was junk |
| 06:06.56 | JerJer | yes they are |
| 06:06.58 | dersteer | waste of money and time |
| 06:07.43 | JerJer | i have an 8 dbi maxrad omni on the install van :) |
| 06:07.48 | dersteer | what kind of net connection are u running for the WISP? |
| 06:08.12 | JerJer | 6 meg pipe direct to level 3 and uu |
| 06:08.29 | JerJer | well and for a few more days coegehoe |
| 06:08.43 | neopher | who was asking about getting their cisco 79xx series connected to *, i found the link for the sip image |
| 06:09.12 | |Vulture| | neopher: just a note... Cisco images are illegal to distribute |
| 06:09.15 | JerJer | its great we are in northern michigan, but the first Internet hop is Detroit :) |
| 06:09.28 | dersteer | I'm in michigan too |
| 06:09.30 | dersteer | ooohhh no |
| 06:09.32 | neopher | yes, but you can download them from their site |
| 06:09.35 | dersteer | competition :p |
| 06:09.47 | dersteer | where at in northern michigan? |
| 06:09.52 | dersteer | I'm by big rapids |
| 06:09.56 | JerJer | lol |
| 06:10.00 | JerJer | Mecosta county |
| 06:10.26 | JerJer | and Isabella |
| 06:10.26 | dersteer | same county |
| 06:10.33 | JerJer | and Kent |
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| 06:10.38 | JerJer | and Montcolm |
| 06:10.42 | dersteer | ooohhh man |
| 06:10.50 | dersteer | I was hoping for some free airwaves |
| 06:10.55 | JerJer | hmm...and ogamaw? (something like that) |
| 06:11.47 | JerJer | i'll sell you some bandwidth :P |
| 06:11.49 | dersteer | got anything going around big rapids? |
| 06:11.56 | JerJer | eventually |
| 06:12.01 | dersteer | u know... that might be a nice deal |
| 06:12.07 | dersteer | would be a lot cheaper to buy from u |
| 06:12.36 | dersteer | depending on what u would sell it for |
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| 06:13.05 | zeek | Incoming from a ZAP channel , when diverted to an IAX client (firefly), automatically answers, even dhow firefly asks to accept or reject the call. Anybody come across this? |
| 06:13.10 | JerJer | we can drop you a T-1 at your location for less than 600 a month....provided you are in an SBC territory |
| 06:13.14 | JerJer | and not centuryHELL |
| 06:13.18 | af_ | workstation freeze :(( |
| 06:13.34 | dersteer | i'm in centuryhell :p |
| 06:13.50 | dersteer | was looking for a possible wireless link |
| 06:13.53 | dersteer | 5ghz |
| 06:13.54 | JerJer | then we would have to deliver something wirelessly |
| 06:14.36 | af_ | so, basically JerJer you mean: make people download a softphone, register a callto stuff, click the page and go? |
| 06:14.42 | JerJer | yep |
| 06:14.49 | af_ | uhm, nice point |
| 06:15.14 | dersteer | what happens if our towers are close? would they interfear with eachother.... I haven't run into that problem yet... seeing I'm still in testing stage |
| 06:15.21 | JerJer | you could write a trivial front end to iaxclient |
| 06:15.31 | JerJer | one that only accepts calls from the callto handler |
| 06:15.56 | JerJer | hell maybe not even pop a form |
| 06:16.02 | JerJer | just read and write audio |
| 06:16.23 | af_ | uhm, that should be for explorer only I guess |
| 06:16.44 | JerJer | it will work on any browser that you register the callto handler with |
| 06:17.07 | af_ | uhm, cause iaxclient is multi-platform |
| 06:18.03 | marc32344 | whats the price on an-50e? |
| 06:18.32 | JerJer | marc32344: like 5 grandish |
| 06:18.33 | Sedorox | does anyone else have their * box register with iaxtel like every minute? |
| 06:19.02 | zeek | Incoming from a ZAP channel , when diverted to an IAX client (firefly), automatically answers, even dhow firefly asks to accept or reject the call. Anybody come across this? |
| 06:19.52 | zeek | how do i fix that? |
| 06:20.17 | zeek | IAX client to IAX client works fine |
| 06:22.44 | zeek | is everybody sleeping? |
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| 06:28.14 | pranav | hello everyone |
| 06:29.57 | *** join/#asterisk RestLessGemini (~umairbari@202.142.189.86) |
| 06:34.28 | pranav | i am getting an eror in asterisk |
| 06:34.39 | pranav | how to ecord the calls |
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| 06:49.32 | daved_ | how can i reset a voicemail mailbox's password from the console? |
| 06:50.06 | JerJer | quit |
| 06:50.11 | JerJer | vi /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf |
| 06:50.17 | JerJer | i |
| 06:50.21 | JerJer | scroll to the line |
| 06:50.22 | JerJer | edit |
| 06:50.23 | Qwell | JerJer: I was thinking exactly the same thing. :p |
| 06:50.29 | JerJer | esc :wq |
| 06:50.58 | Qwell | Don't forget to reconnect to the console |
| 06:51.35 | zeek | Qwell: Incoming from a ZAP channel , when diverted to an IAX client (firefly), automatically answers, even dhow firefly asks to accept or reject the call. any idea how to fix? |
| 06:51.42 | Qwell | got me |
| 06:51.56 | zeek | yep |
| 06:53.06 | zeek | Qwell: call get connected as soon as its dialed to an IAX client |
| 06:53.47 | zeek | does anybody here use firefly? |
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| 06:56.55 | Qwell | kramage |
| 06:56.59 | Qwell | ;] |
| 06:57.00 | kram | greets qwell |
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| 07:10.00 | bonez41 | anyone have success using AMP? |
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| 07:15.26 | RestLessGemini | I've sucessfully installed it 2 days agao but havent run any test on it |
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| 07:18.20 | neopher | bonez41: yes |
| 07:18.30 | neopher | i love AMP |
| 07:19.32 | bonez41 | neopher: I have a friend who is attempting an install of it..and complains that it wants to chown everything in his /var/www directory..and take over his machine..... |
| 07:19.35 | bonez41 | does AMP do that? |
| 07:20.01 | Sedorox | hmmm |
| 07:21.04 | neopher | yes, if you are planning on using apache for anything but amp, you may/will have probs |
| 07:21.24 | Sedorox | weird |
| 07:21.27 | Sedorox | will have to look into that... |
| 07:21.29 | harryvv | how does fwd remain in biz if thay give there service away for free? |
| 07:21.48 | bonez41 | so you are saying that AMP likes to dominate your apache installation....best to run it on a machine dedicated to running asterisk and AMP....? |
| 07:21.53 | Sedorox | harryvv: its all voip.. no pstn |
| 07:22.04 | neopher | i only use the box for *, so it really doesn't bother me |
| 07:22.10 | Sedorox | bonez41: you could always run a secon apache on a seperate port |
| 07:22.17 | harryvv | well still is there a data center to take in voip calls and route them out? |
| 07:22.38 | Sedorox | its just all data traffice |
| 07:22.39 | Sedorox | -e |
| 07:22.40 | bonez41 | neopher: I have an older compaq deskpro machine..it's not really fast....nor bloated with RAM...is that the sort of machine i could run asterisk on..as a dedicated server? |
| 07:22.59 | neopher | what proc. and mem? |
| 07:23.07 | neopher | what build of linux? |
| 07:23.13 | harryvv | I guess not in this case |
| 07:23.16 | bonez41 | it's a Pentium III.... memory I believe is 512... |
| 07:23.27 | bonez41 | linux would be debian 3.0.....running 2.6.x |
| 07:23.43 | Sedorox | all they really are providing is a central server for people to connect to, get a extention, and be able to call each other :-p |
| 07:24.12 | neopher | you shouldn't have a prob, yor proc is probobly a 733, which is enough |
| 07:24.31 | bonez41 | I guess asterisk would list minimum requirements at it's web site.....does amp have a site too? |
| 07:25.03 | Inv_arp | bonez41: * runs on my debian 2.4.27 350mhz for my two sip phones and one zap channel fxo |
| 07:25.14 | Inv_arp | 192 meg ram |
| 07:25.24 | Inv_arp | flawless |
| 07:25.46 | Beirdo | Sedorox: you decide on a DID provider in Canada yet? :) |
| 07:26.16 | Sedorox | Beirdo: actually.. I just ordered one from FreeWorldTel |
| 07:26.25 | Sedorox | so we'll see when it gets added |
| 07:26.31 | Beirdo | cool |
| 07:26.44 | Beirdo | let me know how that goes, you get a toll-free or a local? |
| 07:26.45 | Sedorox | so we'll see how it works out |
| 07:26.52 | Sedorox | US50/Canada toll free |
| 07:26.56 | Beirdo | sweet |
| 07:27.01 | Beirdo | let me know how it goes |
| 07:27.05 | Sedorox | will do |
| 07:27.20 | RestLessGemini | bonez41: http://coalescentsystems.ca/ << AMP |
| 07:27.20 | neopher | bonez41: http://amp.coalescentsystems.ca/ |
| 07:27.34 | neopher | wow, what timeing |
| 07:27.55 | Sedorox | hmmm |
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| 07:28.29 | ranliv | guys i need some help |
| 07:28.34 | ranliv | H.323 call to 639277185482@10.10.9.205 with codec(s) GSM ALAW ULAW G729A |
| 07:28.35 | ranliv | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:28.35 | ranliv | *** [ip$localhost/23643] H.323 CONTROL PROTOCOL ERROR (Capability Exchange : Timeout) |
| 07:28.35 | ranliv | *** [ip$localhost/23643] H.323 CONTROL PROTOCOL ERROR (Master-Slave Determination : Timeout) |
| 07:28.46 | Sedorox | ~pastebin |
| 07:28.47 | jbot | [pastebin] a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 07:28.48 | ranliv | any body have any idea |
| 07:28.54 | JerJer | nope |
| 07:28.58 | JerJer | can't help ya |
| 07:29.10 | Inv_arp | ranliv: h323 whoa |
| 07:29.13 | JerJer | go try to find the author of that code |
| 07:30.01 | ranliv | ok thanks |
| 07:30.32 | neopher | "can asterisk wash my dishes |
| 07:30.40 | neopher | hehe |
| 07:30.51 | eraser` | I've only just discovered asterisk so forgive me if this is a newbie/clueless question, could asterisk provide me with the same functionality (or at least some) that callmanager does? |
| 07:31.28 | neopher | asterisk is better then callmanager, more configurable |
| 07:31.42 | neopher | question is, what phones to you plan on using |
| 07:31.52 | eraser` | 7940 |
| 07:32.11 | neopher | you will want to get the sip image for that phone |
| 07:32.30 | Nugget | unable to load module chan_dishwasher.so |
| 07:32.41 | eraser` | great, thanks :p |
| 07:33.14 | JerJer | I have fork lifted countless call manager's and put asterisk in its place |
| 07:33.31 | JerJer | even got to destroy one for fun :D :D |
| 07:33.48 | neopher | Nugget: load => codec_dish_detergent.so |
| 07:34.11 | JerJer | neopher: that would be res_dish_destergent.so |
| 07:34.15 | Nugget | hrm, I must need cvs head for that. |
| 07:34.15 | JerJer | :) |
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| 07:41.51 | kram | teedly hee hee |
| 07:42.12 | JerJer | all hail the master has shown himself |
| 07:43.29 | JerJer | kram: was just helping a friend with l2tp and noticed a farmalir name attached to it ;) |
| 07:43.53 | kram | hehe |
| 07:43.55 | neopher | anyone have ideas on interfacing this device http://fu-fme.com/ , want to have a 1900 interactive number, hehe |
| 07:44.20 | goatmilk | neopher: i think that joke has been on the web since 1995 |
| 07:44.31 | eraser` | yeah |
| 07:44.37 | eraser` | it's been quite a while |
| 07:44.46 | goatmilk | I think I remember it from when I was like a preteen |
| 07:44.53 | moonwick | always nice to see it's still catching new people. |
| 07:45.00 | neopher | yea, i think they sould update it to a usb device |
| 07:45.01 | goatmilk | moonwick: yeah, really |
| 07:45.29 | goatmilk | why not firewire.. |
| 07:45.37 | goatmilk | :) |
| 07:45.59 | eraser` | the domain creation date is only in 2001.. |
| 07:46.03 | neopher | in reallity, it could probobly be done |
| 07:46.24 | eraser` | it must have expired, I remember seeing that when I was in junior high |
| 07:46.26 | goatmilk | eraser`: it may have expired. |
| 07:46.35 | goatmilk | eraser`: yes, it is much older |
| 07:46.45 | JerJer | yeah i remember the website from a while ago as well |
| 07:47.03 | neopher | actually, when ICANN opened up domain reg, some creating dates go messed up |
| 07:47.04 | JerJer | load => chan_fufme.so |
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| 07:50.09 | Sedorox | night |
| 07:57.42 | bonez41 | Inv_arp: there's hope for my setup then...;)how much hard drive space do I need? what size drive is in your system? |
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| 07:59.49 | Inv_arp | bonez41: 3.2gig |
| 08:02.07 | Inv_arp | heh my 350mhz 3.2gig hdd 192ram is my web/PHP/firewall/ and asterisk server for 2 sip phones 1 ZAP fxo werks without any hiccups |
| 08:03.37 | Inv_arp | * and older hardware play nicely and keeps the electricity bills low :) |
| 08:04.44 | neopher | no, i like amd chips, don't have to turn on the heaters in the winter |
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| 08:05.31 | Inv_arp | lol |
| 08:05.43 | neopher | no, i'm serius |
| 08:06.06 | JerJer | keeps ur feeties warm |
| 08:06.11 | Inv_arp | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:06.22 | moonwick | try a pentium-m |
| 08:06.35 | neopher | i have 7 servers in a rack, keeps the groung floor warm |
| 08:07.21 | Inv_arp | hmm this phpagi class is pretty cool |
| 08:10.47 | moonwick | phpagi? that sounds... twisted |
| 08:11.49 | Beirdo | my heat never comes on, I'm on computer heat |
| 08:12.24 | Inv_arp | moonwick: theres a calling card app based on it looks kewl |
| 08:13.12 | moonwick | correct me if I'm wrong, but does phpagi allow people to use a language that started out as a glorified guestbook app to write IVR systems? |
| 08:14.01 | Inv_arp | heh yep |
| 08:16.47 | rvhi | anyone knows the difference in directory ~/asterisk/res and ~/asterisk/apps ? |
| 08:17.03 | rvhi | both seem to provide cmd in extentions.conf |
| 08:18.23 | moonwick | Inv_arp: I've heard enough. :P |
| 08:18.37 | moonwick | java's the only language I think I'd be comfortable using for IVR stuff |
| 08:18.42 | JerJer | resources vs applications |
| 08:19.34 | rvhi | both provides cmd, so from user perspective, they are the same? |
| 08:20.43 | JerJer | not really resources provide functions for other applications to use |
| 08:20.57 | JerJer | some happen to provide application functionality as well |
| 08:21.01 | JerJer | like res_monitor |
| 08:21.34 | JerJer | but other apps can call ast_monitor_start to trigger a recording |
| 08:22.23 | rvhi | make sense now |
| 08:24.16 | rvhi | is this a wiki page for all resource functions? |
| 08:24.23 | JerJer | no idea |
| 08:26.18 | Beirdo | http://members.dandy.net/~czg/search.html |
| 08:26.28 | Beirdo | now that's a useful site |
| 08:29.24 | bonez41 | Inv_arp: so the drive size is not really critical...and hardware in general doesn't need to be bleeding edge... |
| 08:29.53 | bonez41 | what is ZAP fxo? |
| 08:30.04 | bonez41 | I am a newbie, but really really curious and wanting to learn everything here |
| 08:30.28 | djin | bonez41, one advise. |
| 08:30.45 | djin | Learn from discussions, but lookup first information in docs |
| 08:30.49 | djin | ~docs |
| 08:30.50 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 08:31.43 | djin | Btw. ZAP FXO is a Zapata Telephony card for 1 analog line. |
| 08:32.19 | djin | ZAP FXS is a Zapata Telephony port for one analog phone. |
| 08:33.01 | Inv_arp | bonez41: not really for a soho user like myself |
| 08:33.40 | bonez41 | Inv_arp: do you just run asterisk for personal home office needs? just a couple lines and that's it? |
| 08:34.19 | bonez41 | Inv_arp: what sort of business do you do? I am a chiropractor...at home, I'd like to run asterisk..and have my house wired up so that we coul dhave the phone calls, managed intelligently... |
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| 08:46.14 | bonez41 | any digium workers here now? |
| 08:47.05 | Inv_arp | bonez41: iam a contract programmer/analyst run * for business and home business lines are voip for incoming and outgoing house is pstn |
| 08:48.35 | JerJer | bonez41: doubt it... what's up? |
| 08:49.14 | bonez41 | oh, was just surfing the digium site and it referred me here for a forum..... |
| 08:49.21 | bonez41 | JerJer: what sort of work do you do? |
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| 08:49.48 | bonez41 | I am really considering getting my home setup....this sounds like what i need...at my office too... |
| 08:51.47 | Inv_arp | bonez41: JerJer http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=400 :) |
| 08:57.13 | JerJer | Asterisk absolutely rules |
| 08:57.34 | JerJer | my new house has a TE410P + Adtran TA750 embedded into it |
| 08:57.43 | JerJer | each room of the house has its own fone line |
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| 09:03.10 | rvhi | anyone knows a gui interface to edit realtime mysql db for extensions? |
| 09:03.34 | rvhi | so the dialplan can be changed on the fly via php? |
| 09:05.27 | JerJer | mysql -u bob Database |
| 09:06.15 | rvhi | i'd like a web interface |
| 09:06.17 | Inv_arp | JerJer: u have T1 at home? |
| 09:06.24 | JerJer | no |
| 09:06.34 | JerJer | channel bank |
| 09:07.25 | JerJer | well technically I do have 4 T-1 spans at home |
| 09:07.30 | JerJer | but not a T-1 telco circuit |
| 09:07.43 | Inv_arp | ahh so whats your setup |
| 09:08.09 | JerJer | Dell 400SC + TE410P + Adtran TA750 |
| 09:09.00 | Inv_arp | nice... but doesnt one need a t1 circuit to use a TE410P? |
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| 09:13.12 | JerJer | the adtran talks T-1 |
| 09:13.32 | JerJer | plug a T-1 in and it breaks it out into 24 FXS or FXO ports |
| 09:13.42 | JerJer | er |
| 09:13.51 | JerJer | plug a cross over cable into it |
| 09:14.14 | JerJer | which uses T-1 signaling |
| 09:15.35 | *** join/#asterisk Tond (axel@Toronto-HSE-ppp3646966.sympatico.ca) |
| 09:15.49 | Tond | Anyone using the latest HEAD CVS? |
| 09:16.14 | Tond | I just compiled it and keep getting 'undefined symbol: pbx_substitute_variables_varshead' |
| 09:16.26 | Tond | i got it with pbx_dundi.so |
| 09:16.32 | Tond | so i did a no load on it |
| 09:16.42 | Inv_arp | Tond: are mixing versions |
| 09:16.46 | Tond | and now getting the same error with pbx_loopback.so |
| 09:16.53 | Tond | Oh.. |
| 09:17.08 | Tond | I ahven't done an update since late Nov 04.. |
| 09:17.37 | Tond | So i should delete the old install and compile it fresh? |
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| 09:19.19 | JerJer | Tond: yes |
| 09:19.41 | JerJer | blow away /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/*.so too, just in case |
| 09:19.54 | Poincare | Morning all |
| 09:19.56 | JerJer | moo |
| 09:21.02 | Tond | I just moved /usr/lib/asterisk to asterisk.bak so i would be able to roll back.. that should do right? |
| 09:21.55 | bonez41 | is asterisk friendly to Debian? not too much headache installing/configuring? |
| 09:22.00 | Tond | I guess ima findout once the compile is done.. |
| 09:22.23 | Inv_arp | bonez41: any distro |
| 09:22.36 | Inv_arp | i use debian and fedora core 2 |
| 09:22.43 | bonez41 | cool... |
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| 09:24.46 | elric | hello, how much bandwidth would a single SIP connection need? |
| 09:25.14 | Inv_arp | JerJer: so what feeds u got coming in .. plain POTS lines/boadband? |
| 09:25.20 | loud | depends, which codec. |
| 09:25.21 | Inv_arp | elric: depends on codec |
| 09:25.26 | Inv_arp | oh |
| 09:25.29 | Inv_arp | :) |
| 09:25.32 | loud | do not copy me inv!@ |
| 09:25.34 | loud | :) |
| 09:25.46 | elric | loud, using ulaw |
| 09:26.37 | loud | ulaw chews a lot of bandwidth, 64k ~ |
| 09:26.42 | Tond | the cdr_addon_mysql.so module that came with the recent asterisk-addons doesn't work with the recent *.. when i used the old one it works... |
| 09:26.44 | scythelx | hello all, having some trouble with an agi script, i'm trying to get the script to ring for 5 seconds then goto the next step, i'm using the format $agi->exec('Dial', $argv[1], $argv[3]); where argv[1] is the person i'm calling and $argv[3] is the wait time .. is my syntax wrong? |
| 09:26.55 | Tond | did anyone else run into that problem? |
| 09:27.25 | elric | loud, so what would be the best codec that used the lowest amount of bandwidth and gave decent quality? |
| 09:27.37 | Inv_arp | elric: http://voip-info.org/wiki-Bandwidth+consumption |
| 09:27.49 | elric | Inv_arp, thanks |
| 09:28.13 | Inv_arp | elric: gsm ilbc i prefer or if u pay G729 |
| 09:28.48 | elric | ah ok thanks for your help guys. |
| 09:28.53 | Tond | i found gsm very ncie for low bandwidth |
| 09:28.59 | Tond | i would even preffer it over G723 |
| 09:29.15 | Tond | it worked perfectly over 28.8 Modem line.. |
| 09:30.09 | Inv_arp | yea works ok for me over modem some hiccups but call is fully comprehensible |
| 09:30.40 | Tond | Ya, but compraed to G723 which is so expensive.. |
| 09:30.57 | Tond | I would give two thumbs up to gsm.. |
| 09:31.07 | Tond | but if the oney is there, G729 is also great.. |
| 09:31.35 | Tond | Money |
| 09:31.51 | Inv_arp | Tond: how much is G723 |
| 09:35.29 | padf00t | h323---->asterisk--->SIP <<<< is this possible? |
| 09:36.00 | JerJer | sure |
| 09:36.01 | sezuan | padf00t: yes |
| 09:36.15 | padf00t | i get dead air from both sides |
| 09:36.33 | padf00t | what i noticed is that the calls are not being bridged by asterisk which explains the dead air in both sides |
| 09:37.17 | padf00t | any ideas? anything i missed? |
| 09:37.26 | Tond | Inv_arp> I think the distributor needs to license it and from what I ahve heard it can go up to Millions.. Correct me if I am wrong ppl.. :) |
| 09:37.41 | Tond | my typing sucks.. |
| 09:38.20 | sezuan | padf00t: can check the real destination of the rtp packets? |
| 09:38.41 | padf00t | sezuan: how do i check that |
| 09:39.15 | sezuan | padf00t: windows or linux? |
| 09:39.22 | padf00t | unix |
| 09:39.27 | padf00t | am using tcpdumo |
| 09:39.30 | padf00t | *tcpdump |
| 09:39.39 | padf00t | i see packets going to asterisk from h323 and from sip |
| 09:39.48 | padf00t | asterisk seems not doing anything with the packets |
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| 09:40.12 | padf00t | i dont see any packets (rtp i think) from asterisk going to h323 and SIP |
| 09:40.22 | padf00t | its all |
| 09:40.27 | padf00t | h323 >>>>>>>>>>> asterisk |
| 09:40.32 | padf00t | sip >>>>>>>>>>>>> asterisk |
| 09:41.33 | sezuan | padf00t: the ports for h323 are open? I think it different range for the RTP packets. |
| 09:42.13 | padf00t | ya ... its open .... i can call from h323 to the other side SIP ... the phone rings on the SIP side |
| 09:42.19 | JerJer | do you have a valid codec allowed? |
| 09:42.23 | JerJer | valid bindaddr value? |
| 09:42.24 | Tond | is there a way to listen to conversatoins that are not going through Zaptel? |
| 09:42.25 | padf00t | when SIP side phone picked up ... dead air |
| 09:42.26 | JerJer | no nat? |
| 09:42.27 | JerJer | no firewall? |
| 09:42.49 | padf00t | i dont see any packets being blocked |
| 09:42.51 | JerJer | what H.323 crap are you running? |
| 09:43.05 | Tond | I know i can do zapbarge, but is there a way to listen or record voip calls ? |
| 09:43.24 | padf00t | JerJer in asterisk? |
| 09:43.31 | JerJer | show application monitor |
| 09:43.38 | JerJer | padf00t: the other H.323 endpoint |
| 09:43.45 | JerJer | H.323 is known for massive interop problems |
| 09:43.52 | Tond | thanks Jer Jer |
| 09:44.00 | padf00t | the machines is .... as53000 ---------> asterisk ------------> audiocodes |
| 09:44.09 | JerJer | then its a config problem |
| 09:44.15 | padf00t | the machines is .... as53000(h323) ---------> asterisk ------------> audiocodes(SIP_ |
| 09:44.19 | JerJer | i used to have racks full of 5300s |
| 09:44.25 | padf00t | jerjer what side |
| 09:44.30 | JerJer | both |
| 09:44.30 | padf00t | h323 side? |
| 09:44.46 | padf00t | am using g729 codec ... |
| 09:44.54 | padf00t | so what config adjustments should be made |
| 09:45.18 | JerJer | do you have the codec_g729a.so loaded? |
| 09:45.33 | JerJer | and/or G.729 allowed on the SIP side |
| 09:45.40 | Tond | As5300 Doesn't support G729a |
| 09:45.47 | JerJer | ?! |
| 09:45.49 | Tond | it supports G729AB i think |
| 09:45.52 | padf00t | i have g729a i think |
| 09:46.00 | djin | Did anyone here do the dCap training? |
| 09:46.01 | padf00t | from the as5300 side ... isee g729r8 |
| 09:46.05 | Tond | I am prety sure it supports ab, check |
| 09:46.16 | JerJer | Tond: g.729 is g.729 |
| 09:46.20 | Tond | g729r8 but it is the ab version |
| 09:46.30 | JerJer | the codec itself determines the payload type |
| 09:46.38 | Tond | JerJer, I know I had that problem.. |
| 09:46.43 | Tond | but i could br wrong |
| 09:46.46 | padf00t | so codec problem? |
| 09:46.56 | Tond | I would suggest using G711 for now, so we can eliminate my guess.. |
| 09:47.01 | padf00t | ok |
| 09:47.06 | padf00t | ill try that now |
| 09:47.08 | padf00t | using ulaw |
| 09:47.11 | padf00t | g,711 |
| 09:47.12 | JerJer | and h.323 debug is a good thing to type |
| 09:47.20 | padf00t | already did that |
| 09:47.25 | padf00t | not much messages |
| 09:47.27 | padf00t | showing up |
| 09:47.27 | JerJer | but you have to use asterisk -vvvgc :( |
| 09:47.34 | padf00t | oh ok |
| 09:47.48 | padf00t | gonna try it now .... |
| 09:47.56 | coppice | g729r8 is the 8kbit/s form of G.729 |
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| 09:49.27 | Tond | Cisco has came up with an IOS that allows conversions.. meaning SIP <-> H.323 |
| 09:49.38 | Tond | u can install it on 36xx series |
| 09:49.53 | coppice | Cisco have a non-standard way of packing the bits in G.729, but I can't remember what they call that. its something they used before a bit packing order was standardised |
| 09:49.55 | Tond | haven't tested it yet, but it is about time.. |
| 09:50.26 | Tond | padf00t> anything so far? |
| 09:51.37 | Tond | the big companies always need to modify their crap.. My friend just got an IBM thinkpad and it doens't have firewire.. it has some other crapy port IBM uses.. that is just lame on belahf of IBM.. lol |
| 09:52.19 | Tond | padf00t> Why do u want to use H.323? Y not using SIP with ur AS5300 ? |
| 09:52.39 | JerJer | yeah really |
| 09:53.08 | Tond | I have rarely used H.323 with our Cisco stuff.. |
| 09:53.11 | Tond | :) |
| 09:53.12 | JerJer | since some have called me a zealot |
| 09:53.46 | coppice | H.323 is so bad it is actually worse than SIP :-) |
| 09:54.13 | JerJer | yes, sip is considered an improvement :) |
| 09:54.15 | scythelx | anyone using phpagi |
| 09:54.16 | Tond | I ahve always used SIP, and for what I ahve needed it, it does the job |
| 09:54.28 | JerJer | i hate SIP, but I despise H.323 |
| 09:54.42 | Tond | lets see how IAX is gonna do.. |
| 09:55.02 | Tond | I love the fact that it can pass multimple NATs without any extra work.. |
| 09:55.18 | Tond | I just hope more IAX devices come out.. |
| 09:56.21 | JerJer | patience is a virtue, my grasshopper |
| 09:56.37 | coppice | come out? like come out of the wiring closet? :-) |
| 09:56.49 | JerJer | lol |
| 09:57.28 | Tond | me waits and waits.. lol |
| 09:57.45 | padf00t | jerjer: made the codec ulaw ... still dead air in both sides |
| 09:58.01 | Tond | padf00t> do you want to give SIP a try? |
| 09:58.21 | Tond | y is it that u want to use H.323 with the AS5300? |
| 09:58.38 | padf00t | tond: ya i could actually use SIP ... but am simulating a particular setup where the originating gateway only has H323 |
| 09:58.44 | Tond | also, try sendig ur AS5300 a call using netmeeting and see if it goes through |
| 09:59.07 | Tond | maybe it is a cisco config error u got |
| 09:59.20 | padf00t | if i do echo test .... it works |
| 09:59.23 | Tond | see if u can complete a call using netmeeting with both sides hearing the voice |
| 09:59.28 | padf00t | as53000 -----------> asterisk |
| 09:59.34 | padf00t | as53000 <--------------- asterisk |
| 09:59.42 | JerJer | i hope you are using cvs -head code |
| 09:59.48 | padf00t | am using 1.0.3 |
| 09:59.56 | padf00t | using freebsd too |
| 09:59.57 | JerJer | bingo, we have a winner |
| 10:00.00 | JerJer | oh god |
| 10:00.10 | JerJer | you really want to make things tough don't you |
| 10:00.12 | padf00t | its the ports version of freebsd ... |
| 10:00.16 | padf00t | :D |
| 10:00.22 | JerJer | good luck buddy |
| 10:00.38 | padf00t | i take that as a recommendation to upgrade to latest CVS :D |
| 10:00.48 | JerJer | and run linux |
| 10:00.49 | Tond | I guess that could help |
| 10:01.14 | Tond | except that the mysql module that comes with the new asterisk-addons won't work with it.. well didn't for mine |
| 10:01.24 | Tond | i had to sue the old module i had backed up... |
| 10:01.26 | JerJer | fix it |
| 10:01.27 | padf00t | oh well ... thanks guys ... ill try all your suggestions ... thanks again |
| 10:01.30 | JerJer | use the source luke |
| 10:01.56 | Tond | JerJer> fix it in terms of change the code? Cause I don't think i can do that.. :) |
| 10:02.03 | Tond | source luke? |
| 10:02.10 | JerJer | stretch out into a diff -u |
| 10:02.31 | JerJer | what kind of geek are you? |
| 10:02.42 | JerJer | Star war's reference |
| 10:03.41 | JerJer | alrighty...waiter, check please |
| 10:03.56 | Tond | well I am getting back into the game |
| 10:03.57 | Tond | lol |
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| 10:06.48 | mcukstorm | hi all, i have a tdm400p card with an fxo & fxs module in, im having real problems getting caller id to work inbound on the fxo interface, it fails and delays the call passing through asterisk for about 6 seconds. zapata.conf and errors at http://pastebin.com/246534 |
| 10:07.48 | JerJer[zZzZ] | busydetect is evil |
| 10:08.02 | mcukstorm | ok, but it still does it with that out |
| 10:08.34 | coppice | JerJer: truish, but the busydetect in * really sucks |
| 10:08.44 | scythelx | is there a way to specify a wait time from the CLI? such as dial 1000@local,25 |
| 10:08.57 | scythelx | i know you can do it from the dialplan but the cli doesnt like it |
| 10:09.12 | JerJer[zZzZ] | coppice: yeah |
| 10:09.25 | scythelx | i'm actually trying to do it in AGI, but theres just the exec() command |
| 10:09.32 | JerJer[zZzZ] | mcukstorm: it was just a general comment |
| 10:09.41 | mcukstorm | ;) ok |
| 10:10.22 | coppice | bring back strowger exchanges, and do away with busydetect :-) |
| 10:10.49 | JerJer[zZzZ] | mcukstorm: do you have the appropriate country loaded in zaptel ? |
| 10:11.32 | mcukstorm | yep: loadzone=uk |
| 10:11.33 | mcukstorm | defaultzone=uk |
| 10:12.07 | mcukstorm | also comes up in dmesg saying it set the registered tone zone to uk |
| 10:13.08 | mcukstorm | i have read there are some issues & patch required for the uk caller id on x100p interfaces but, it doesnt appear to be needed for the fxo module in the tdm400p |
| 10:16.33 | coppice | the patches are a nasty botch to work around the lack of reversal detection. the TDM400P detects reversal and works OK |
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| 10:44.40 | __Sparks_ | Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong here! - This line in sip.conf makes all calls prefixed with a 9 go out over the PSTN, removing the 9 "exten => _9.,1,Macro(dialout,${TRUNK},${EXTEN:1})" - I want to make all calls starting with 07 do the same, but leaving the 07 in - this is what I have put "exten => _07.,1,Macro(dialout,${TRUNK},${EXTEN)" But all i get is a PSTN dialing tone - any idea why! |
| 10:49.28 | __Sparks_ | Found it, it was a missing ) at the end! |
| 10:50.36 | e3eli3h | i would have said it was missing :2}) at the end |
| 10:52.01 | e3eli3h | ah but you want to leave the 07 in, just read that, my bad |
| 10:57.03 | __Sparks_ | If I wanted to prefix the number with somthing, then a pause of about 5 seconds, then dial the number, then suffix the whole lot, where do I put the prifix and suffix stuff!? |
| 11:14.53 | __Sparks_ | OK, so I have managed to suffix the number, but cant seem to prefix with a pause! How do i pause, as a comma doesnt want to work! |
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| 11:56.01 | mash` | morning all |
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| 12:18.14 | datareactor | anyone tested verso voip products ? |
| 12:26.33 | WilliamK | not me |
| 12:33.12 | mash` | how can i capture the pickup event when i have an incoming call? |
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| 13:17.33 | Weezey | is it possible to have one voicemail box with many intros and only one spot to check 'er? |
| 13:18.41 | Weezey | like if they come in via different lines, I need different recordings but they can all go to the same place so my MWI will work. |
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| 13:33.18 | Zeeek | quiet nights, and quiet starz. Quiet chords on my guitarz |
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| 13:40.37 | Zeeek | what? |
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| 13:42.15 | Zeeek | interesting : http://www.switchvox.com/catalog/wizard_end.php |
| 13:42.28 | Zeeek | look through the questions and get a quote - very interesting |
| 13:43.36 | MikeJ[Jayden] | looks pretty cool |
| 13:44.02 | Zeeek | yes and no - point is, the hardware is more expensive then Digium |
| 13:44.15 | Zeeek | and people are complaining the digium is expensive |
| 13:47.34 | MikeJ[Jayden] | Is the hardware digiums resold? |
| 13:48.00 | Zeeek | I haven't figured that out - I don't even see if it runs linux or Windoze |
| 13:48.14 | MikeJ[Jayden] | the hardware is certainly not expensive in the PBX realm, have you priced boards for a Nortel pbx lately |
| 13:48.17 | Zeeek | but the cost to add an analog line for example is like $150 |
| 13:48.20 | coppice | its says its Asterisk |
| 13:48.24 | Zeeek | it is? |
| 13:48.45 | coppice | it says so on their front page |
| 13:48.47 | Zeeek | The systems are cheap until you need things like analog PSTN |
| 13:48.53 | Zeeek | I missed that |
| 13:49.15 | MikeJ[Jayden] | but they are selling SPA's with a little more markup than you can get other places |
| 13:49.25 | Zeeek | Ok, I see - I got there from someone's bookmark |
| 13:49.40 | Zeeek | yeah BT100 for $100 - they're usually $75 |
| 13:50.10 | Zeeek | in fact (coppice et al) you guys know about http://del.iscio.us ? |
| 13:50.26 | Zeeek | it's a wacky tagged bookmaring site |
| 13:50.49 | Zeeek | I happen to find the switchvox site because there are several voIP links on that site |
| 13:51.43 | MikeJ[Jayden] | it was on ADN, found it fromthere |
| 13:52.50 | Zeeek | check this out - then add your own |
| 13:52.50 | Zeeek | http://del.icio.us/tag/voip/ |
| 13:53.41 | Zeeek | http://del.icio.us/tag/asterisk |
| 13:54.42 | MikeJ[Jayden] | I like delicions |
| 13:54.46 | MikeJ[Jayden] | delicious |
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| 14:23.26 | Zeeek | well, it's been great :) |
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| 14:48.50 | Zeeek | . |
| 14:50.57 | spackle | All quiet on the Asterisk front? |
| 14:51.39 | Zeeek | yes but it should be ringing! |
| 14:54.53 | spackle | Zeeek, are you in the U.K.? |
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| 15:05.23 | yashax | Would it be a problem if I have 2 phones with the same EXT on the network, like the hard and soft phones? |
| 15:06.27 | eKo1 | Yes. |
| 15:06.53 | eKo1 | But wait, I guess that depends on how you've setup your dialplan. |
| 15:08.05 | eKo1 | As long as their respective entries in sip.conf don't conflict, it shouldn't be a problem. |
| 15:08.09 | MikeJ[Jayden] | hey ek01 |
| 15:08.22 | yashax | like what should be different? |
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| 15:08.41 | eKo1 | yashax: In sip.conf? |
| 15:09.25 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ex01: http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0003618 requires your attention I beleive |
| 15:10.33 | eKo1 | MikeJ[Jayden]: Oh yeah. Thanks. |
| 15:10.41 | yashax | eKo1: yeah, in sip.conf what should be different between the ext? |
| 15:11.23 | eKo1 | yashax: the name in between the brackets, i.e. [myphone]. |
| 15:11.43 | yashax | basically, I want to test to have one real phone in the office with my ext and other loaded on Pocket PC with the same extension, so it rings in both places.. |
| 15:13.22 | eKo1 | yashax: Do that in your dialplan. |
| 15:14.21 | yashax | you mean, have a diferent ext on boith of those and have it ring 2 different ext? or still have two same ext? |
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| 15:14.29 | cornfedFrank | greetings all |
| 15:14.40 | cornfedFrank | i have an announcement |
| 15:14.58 | cornfedFrank | the iax white paper has been updated |
| 15:15.15 | cornfedFrank | there is now a proto internet draft describing the protocol |
| 15:15.33 | eKo1 | Where? |
| 15:15.36 | MikeJ[Jayden] | link |
| 15:15.38 | cornfedFrank | the draft is not finished but it is better than the white paper |
| 15:15.45 | cornfedFrank | http://www.cornfed.com/iax.pdf |
| 15:16.08 | cornfedFrank | i'll also be updating the voip wiki |
| 15:16.17 | yashax | eKo1: you mean, have a diferent ext on boith of those and have it ring 2 different ext? or still have two same ext? |
| 15:16.36 | MikeJ[Jayden] | send to sineapps for ADN as well? |
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| 15:17.03 | cjk | hi, how can i change the tablename where * stores cdr information |
| 15:17.32 | eKo1 | yashax: They both have different 'extensions' but you can make * ring both phones when someone dials the ext. you want those phones to have. |
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| 15:18.41 | eKo1 | cjk: ALTER TABLE table RENAME TO newtable |
| 15:19.11 | cjk | eKo1, realy, but will asterisk know this? of course not |
| 15:20.37 | eKo1 | The name 'cdr' is hardcoded in the source code. You'll have to change it if you want something different. |
| 15:21.00 | eKo1 | I think cdr is an appropriate name and needs no changing. |
| 15:21.28 | yashax | eKo1: got it.. thanks.. will do that |
| 15:21.45 | cjk | eKo1, depends on the structre one has behind |
| 15:22.29 | eKo1 | The cdr table stores CDRs regardless of what 'structure' you have behind it. |
| 15:22.36 | eKo1 | Hence the name. |
| 15:23.50 | eKo1 | But if you really need to change it, the source code is there for you to modify. Have at it. |
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| 15:31.34 | PCadach | cornfedFrank: One additional feature of IAX in comparsion to RTP is minimal UDP overhead in mini-frames, so it looks like cRTP (compressed RTP). |
| 15:32.00 | cornfedFrank | k |
| 15:32.14 | cornfedFrank | its not really finished yet |
| 15:32.30 | cornfedFrank | but we've worked on it some since last March |
| 15:32.36 | cornfedFrank | :? |
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| 15:34.00 | PCadach | Just include bandwidth comparsion in section 3, not just NAT problems. |
| 15:34.25 | cornfedFrank | I put in third goal in the intro section |
| 15:34.35 | cornfedFrank | minimize protocol overhead for media transmissions |
| 15:34.57 | eKo1 | Are you guys reverse engineering the protocol? |
| 15:35.14 | cornfedFrank | no, i've been talking to markster to document it |
| 15:35.39 | cornfedFrank | (and nudging him on some design points) |
| 15:35.51 | eKo1 | Doesn't Mark have a whitepaper on it? |
| 15:36.03 | eKo1 | Or is it all in his head? |
| 15:36.04 | cornfedFrank | yes, i wrote it |
| 15:36.15 | cornfedFrank | mark wrote the code |
| 15:36.23 | cornfedFrank | i wrote the white paper and this draft |
| 15:36.51 | eKo1 | Weird. Usually the white paper is written before the code. |
| 15:37.22 | cornfedFrank | really? i've had the opposite experience with open-source, documentation usually comes later |
| 15:37.42 | eKo1 | Code now, document later is bad way of doing things in my opinion. |
| 15:38.51 | cornfedFrank | mine too, but sitting down to code something first can work too sometimes |
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| 15:40.20 | eKo1 | Yeah, but then you and only you know what you're doing. |
| 15:40.58 | eKo1 | The rest of us are left waiting in the sidelines. |
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| 15:42.49 | MikeJ[Jayden] | draft is looking good |
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| 15:43.22 | MikeJ[Jayden] | how much more work needs to go into it? |
| 15:43.33 | PCadach | But in section 3 you just compares IAX with RTP on different streams for signalling and bearer services and shows combined UDP stream makes protocol to be senseless for NATpresence in stream path. Less protocol overhead for IAX is comparable to cRTP but last one requires to be supported by routers in call path, while IAX is non-overheaded independedly on routers. |
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| 15:44.53 | MikeJ[Jayden] | hey anthm |
| 15:44.59 | anthm | hey |
| 15:45.02 | convey | * Rules! |
| 15:45.17 | MikeJ[Jayden] | what does it rule? |
| 15:45.22 | goatmilk | convey: !!!!!! |
| 15:45.28 | convey | LOL |
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| 15:45.42 | convey | I am so impressed by * |
| 15:46.08 | convey | It does everything and it is so easy to administer. |
| 15:46.11 | Mother_ | hi all |
| 15:46.58 | convey | Kudos to whoever is writing the code and documentation. |
| 15:47.31 | cornfedFrank | thanks, needs teardown state machines and some tables to be filled in |
| 15:47.41 | convey | Kudos to this chat group, who helped me understand the configuration. |
| 15:47.46 | cornfedFrank | for a basic draft |
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| 15:47.59 | cornfedFrank | then there are lots of call features that will have to be document later on |
| 15:48.01 | MikeJ[Jayden] | what is the draft process like? |
| 15:48.12 | MikeJ[Jayden] | I have never done it |
| 15:48.33 | cornfedFrank | PCadach: I can add some material in Section 3 on bandwidth stuff |
| 15:48.50 | cornfedFrank | well, i'm not sure how we're going to bring it to the ietf |
| 15:48.53 | PCadach | That would be good IMHO. |
| 15:48.54 | BezNalogo | I try to compile asterisk, but I get this error |
| 15:48.58 | anthm | bkw not logged in? is oaklahoma still there? |
| 15:49.00 | cornfedFrank | the viop powers in the ietf will shit all over it |
| 15:49.02 | BezNalogo | checking for tgetent in -ltermcap... no |
| 15:49.02 | BezNalogo | checking for tgetent in -ltinfo... no |
| 15:49.02 | BezNalogo | checking for tgetent in -lcurses... no |
| 15:49.02 | BezNalogo | checking for tgetent in -lncurses... no |
| 15:49.02 | BezNalogo | configure: error: termcap support not found |
| 15:49.02 | BezNalogo | make: *** [editline/libedit.a] Error 1 |
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| 15:49.20 | BezNalogo | Anybody knows what do do? |
| 15:49.53 | anthm | install more OS |
| 15:50.00 | goatmilk | do you have any of those libraries installed? |
| 15:50.07 | PCadach | BezNalogo: Just install ncurses. |
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| 15:50.16 | BezNalogo | Where can I get ncurses? |
| 15:50.27 | anthm | like fuck shit etc ? |
| 15:50.33 | goatmilk | what distro do you run, BezNalogo ? |
| 15:50.44 | BezNalogo | Suse 9.2 |
| 15:51.10 | goatmilk | You should be able to use your package management software to install it |
| 15:51.12 | PCadach | BezNalogo: Where your duties (BezNalogo(v) sounds like no duties in russian). |
| 15:52.02 | BezNalogo | It means tax free in Russian |
| 15:52.32 | PCadach | Yep, I wrong a little. Duty = poshlina, tax = nalog. |
| 15:52.56 | BezNalogo | Goatmilk, I also thought that, but in the package management software I can find any of those libraries, I think ncurses is somewhere in another package, but I have no idea which one |
| 15:53.20 | anthm | do it the old fashiobed way =D |
| 15:53.31 | Mother_ | BezNalogo: you can use the add/remove packages in YaST, and search for "ncurses" you should get the packages you need |
| 15:53.51 | Mother_ | do a search for text in title and description, just in case |
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| 15:54.01 | mafkees | heya all :) |
| 15:54.03 | cornfedFrank | gotta go, later guys |
| 15:54.56 | mafkees | can anyone help me with a little OpenBSD question ? |
| 15:55.13 | ariel_ | morning folks |
| 15:55.24 | mafkees | I know you need some sort of timing device to use IAX trunking and/or meetme |
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| 15:55.39 | mafkees | and I read all about the ztdummy and zaprtc |
| 15:55.50 | nestAr | wow.. what a tasteful name. |
| 15:55.59 | mafkees | but all info is about how to compile/use it on Linux |
| 15:56.35 | mafkees | but I cannot find anything on the list/wiki/google about OpenBSD zaptel timing stuff |
| 15:56.54 | mafkees | is there such a thing, and if so, were can I read about it ? |
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| 15:59.44 | PCadach | BezNalogo: There is russian site for Asterisk: http://www.asterisk.org.ru/ |
| 16:00.15 | ACiDV | On some "traditional" PBX, I can link a radio station for MoH using 2 pairs of a phone.. does exist a way to use MoH that come from an FXS (or FXO?) port ? |
| 16:03.09 | Mother_ | has anyone got an example of returning a blind-transfered call back to the caller if the dialed extension is busy? |
| 16:03.38 | Mother_ | i.e. PSTN call comes in, ext. A picks up, transfers to ext. B, which is busy, call gets sent back to ext. A |
| 16:04.40 | eKo1 | Not that I know off. |
| 16:04.45 | eKo1 | That would be nice though. |
| 16:05.38 | Mother_ | I've read some posts on this, usual thing "I fixed it" but provides no details |
| 16:07.26 | eKo1 | For all it's worth, why not use attended transfers. |
| 16:07.56 | convey | is there any way to change the entry tones on a meetme? |
| 16:08.19 | Corydon76-home | Replace the gsm files? |
| 16:08.38 | convey | I cannot locate the gsm file that plays that sound |
| 16:08.45 | Mother_ | attended transfers? I'm using 7912s and four PSTN inbound lines |
| 16:08.48 | convey | it does not show up on the console |
| 16:09.01 | ACiDV | or create a "quiet" meetme and add Playback |
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| 16:09.09 | kuonSama | hello everybody |
| 16:09.25 | convey | ACiDV: that is a great idea. THanks |
| 16:09.54 | Mother_ | when I press the # I get the dialtone and transfer, but I haven't been able to get non-blind transfers working |
| 16:10.12 | kuonSama | I got a problem with rtp |
| 16:10.14 | kuonSama | I got == Telling Endpoint to use 127.0.0.1(32512):14768 |
| 16:10.19 | kuonSama | instead of the server ip |
| 16:10.21 | kuonSama | any idea? |
| 16:10.28 | mafkees | with SIP ? |
| 16:10.35 | kuonSama | /etc/hosts is correct |
| 16:10.48 | ACiDV | externip and localnet are set/ok in sip.conf ? |
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| 16:11.22 | mafkees | setting canreinvite=no helped here |
| 16:11.51 | kuonSama | ACiDV: you spook to me? |
| 16:12.36 | ACiDV | kuonSama: yes... |
| 16:12.45 | kuonSama | ok I verify |
| 16:13.01 | mafkees | but no-one has any idea about an openbsd timing source |
| 16:13.12 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 16:13.13 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 16:13.29 | eKo1 | mafkees: Have you checked the mailing list? |
| 16:13.34 | mafkees | yes |
| 16:13.47 | mafkees | and the wiki |
| 16:13.48 | mafkees | and google |
| 16:14.05 | kuonSama | yes |
| 16:14.13 | eKo1 | I'm sure somebody here has ztdummy working on *BSD. |
| 16:14.15 | kuonSama | everything is ok |
| 16:14.28 | mafkees | I can find a lot about zaprtc and ztdummy, but only related to Linux |
| 16:14.33 | eKo1 | It seems though that they don't work on Saturdays. |
| 16:14.44 | kuonSama | every phones are on the same nat |
| 16:14.51 | kuonSama | same subnet I mean |
| 16:15.59 | Corydon76-home | convey: conf-hasjoin and conf-hasleft |
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| 16:21.32 | Mother_ | well, got attended transfers working :D |
| 16:21.40 | Mother_ | atxfer in features.conf |
| 16:22.41 | Mother_ | now, how can I prevent SIP phones from receiving more than one call, i.e. right now one of the 7912s was on a call, it got called by another 7912, and instead of playing busy, it started a second call |
| 16:23.00 | Mother_ | I want it to signal busy if one call is already in progress on the dialed extension |
| 16:23.31 | ACiDV | Mother_ ... use SetGroup and CheckGroup |
| 16:23.43 | Mother_ | ACiDV: thanks, will look into those |
| 16:23.44 | ariel_ | Mother_, there are 2 ways. One is via the phone it self. Some sip phones have a tag for no call wating or Setgroup and checkgroup |
| 16:23.50 | Mother_ | ok |
| 16:24.21 | Mother_ | ah yes, it could be, I remember something on the 7912 settings about that |
| 16:24.23 | Mother_ | thanks |
| 16:24.29 | eKo1 | Mother_: It's best to use have the phone do the transfers. |
| 16:25.07 | Mother_ | eKo1: how do you mean the phone do the transfers, you mean instead of using atxfer? |
| 16:25.42 | Mother_ | ah |
| 16:26.00 | Mother_ | the 7912 has both allow blind transfers and allow call waiting, I'll try those first |
| 16:26.34 | eKo1 | Take advantage of the phones features. |
| 16:26.45 | kuonSama | anybody know how to change the rtp ip from 127.0.0.1 to the real ip? |
| 16:26.48 | eKo1 | They're there for a purpose. |
| 16:27.05 | Mother_ | eKo1: thanks :D |
| 16:27.23 | eKo1 | kuonSama: That question doesn't make sense. |
| 16:33.00 | eKo1 | Hmm....I downloaded head today and it won't install. It fails at sh mkpkgconfig /usr/lib/pkgconfig |
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| 16:34.13 | eKo1 | I don't think I need that shit. |
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| 16:39.10 | kuonSama | eKo1: I got one way audio because the rtp endpoint is set to 127.0.0.1 instead of the asterisk ip |
| 16:39.12 | Mother_ | hmmm |
| 16:39.46 | Mother_ | now I get "invalid extension" if the called extension is busy when you try to tranfer a call to it, and the call is hungup |
| 16:40.14 | Mother_ | but if you simply dial it when the other is busy, a busy tone is played (correct behaviour now) |
| 16:40.49 | eKo1 | kuonSama: Are you using * stable or head? |
| 16:40.59 | kuonSama | head |
| 16:41.05 | kuonSama | it's happen with sccp |
| 16:41.14 | eKo1 | Well, you can't trust head so... |
| 16:41.23 | eKo1 | You're on your own. |
| 16:42.05 | kuonSama | I'll try with stable |
| 16:42.44 | hermie | kuonSama: if it works with stable and not head, consider filing a bug... |
| 16:43.00 | kuonSama | I'll try |
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| 16:44.28 | Mother_ | I can't understand the concept of local channels, the error now is " builtin_atxfer: Unable to create channel Local/13@intern/n do you have chan_local?" |
| 16:44.42 | Mother_ | when the called extension is busy and I try to transfer to it |
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| 16:53.35 | MuppetMaster | Hello everyone. |
| 16:53.50 | MuppetMaster | Has something recently changed with the cdr_addon_mysql.c table format? |
| 16:54.05 | MuppetMaster | I am now getting this error: Feb 26 17:53:16 ERROR[10834]: cdr_addon_mysql.c:202 mysql_log: Failed to insert into database. Where I was not before the latest CVS head update. |
| 16:54.35 | Mother_ | this is what I get http://pastebin.ca/6476 |
| 16:54.40 | Mother_ | anyone care take a look? |
| 16:55.51 | Mother_ | I guess I should have something in extensions.conf to route the call back instead of simply hanging up |
| 16:56.40 | ariel_ | Mother_, are you dialing the extension via a macro to handle busy? |
| 16:58.55 | Mother_ | ariel_: nope |
| 16:59.06 | ariel_ | you should then. |
| 16:59.35 | Mother_ | ok, any examples you could point to? I've been looking at the wiki but my head hurts |
| 17:01.00 | eKo1 | MuppetMaster: Don't trust head unless you're a developer and you know what you're doing. |
| 17:01.22 | MuppetMaster | I know that. |
| 17:01.24 | eKo1 | Is anybody here monitoring * using nagios/mrtg? |
| 17:01.28 | kuonSama | eKo1: not working with v1.0 |
| 17:01.33 | kuonSama | I do eKo1 |
| 17:01.35 | JerJer[zZzZ] | bullshit cvs -head is far superior code |
| 17:01.36 | MuppetMaster | eKol But has something changed and is someone going to post that change? |
| 17:01.37 | kuonSama | nagios + rrdtool |
| 17:01.46 | MuppetMaster | ekol - I use Nagios with Asterisk. |
| 17:01.55 | Nugget | cricket is better than mrtg. |
| 17:01.56 | eKo1 | MuppetMaster: Check the dev. mailing list. |
| 17:02.05 | MuppetMaster | eKol - Will do. |
| 17:02.06 | JerJer | Cacti |
| 17:02.11 | Nugget | I don't like cacti |
| 17:02.19 | Nugget | it's too bloated and inflexible |
| 17:02.37 | eKo1 | Well, I'm using mrtg/nagios already. |
| 17:02.53 | eKo1 | kuonSama: What's your config. like? |
| 17:03.04 | MuppetMaster | Nagios works great. |
| 17:03.12 | MuppetMaster | What do you think is the best plugin for Asterisk for Nagios? |
| 17:03.13 | JerJer | inflexable? I take it you haven't used any recent version |
| 17:03.24 | lesouvage | I just made, as a novice newbe, a fresh install and it seems that the asterisk server is running and I see the CLI> prompt I also installed the samples. What should be my next step to check that the sample is running OK. |
| 17:03.25 | Nugget | I mean inflexible from a presentation standpoint. |
| 17:03.33 | Nugget | I don't want all those frames and sidebars and ui complexity |
| 17:03.42 | eKo1 | Anyone using what this guy has: http://karlsbakk.net/asterisk/ |
| 17:04.00 | Nugget | don't get so defensive. it's not like I called your kid ugly or anything. I just don't like a piece of software you use. |
| 17:04.00 | JerJer | ok then tell cacti to use static jpg images and link to them your self |
| 17:04.18 | JerJer | this isn't defensive |
| 17:04.44 | JerJer | defensive would be me DDoS-ing your network just cuz I can |
| 17:05.00 | JerJer | this is irc yo, deal with it |
| 17:05.06 | Nugget | 'fo sheezy |
| 17:05.09 | MuppetMaster | Talking with ourselves in here? |
| 17:05.11 | ariel_ | Mother_, here is a basic macro I use: http://pastebin.ca/6477 |
| 17:05.30 | Luhiwu | anyone is using voipjet? |
| 17:05.31 | Nugget | I just want graphs -- I don't need to use a package that supports user accounts just to monitor my bandwidth. |
| 17:05.49 | JerJer | then say that |
| 17:06.02 | Mother_ | ariel_: thanks a bunch! |
| 17:06.02 | JerJer | don't call it inflexible when it is far from that |
| 17:06.03 | MuppetMaster | Luhiwu - I use Voipjet |
| 17:06.20 | Nugget | it is inflexible. It expects you to want all those features. |
| 17:06.27 | Nugget | but jeez -- why take it so personally? |
| 17:06.37 | Nugget | did you write cacti or something? |
| 17:06.37 | MuppetMaster | Luhiwu - Teliax.com as well |
| 17:06.43 | JerJer | why do you think i am taking this personally? |
| 17:06.46 | Luhiwu | MuppetMaster, i get busy everytime i call, do you have any idea why could be that? i've checked and i have credit on the account |
| 17:06.50 | Nugget | because you won't let it go. |
| 17:06.58 | JerJer | go away |
| 17:07.00 | ariel_ | ~doc |
| 17:07.04 | MuppetMaster | Luhiwu - Is it to a particular destination? |
| 17:07.06 | kuonSama | eKo1: nagios only verify that asterisk is online by opening a socket |
| 17:07.33 | Luhiwu | MuppetMaster: i've tried Argentina (many destinations) and Spain, both gives back busy |
| 17:07.53 | kuonSama | and rrd grab stats from database |
| 17:08.03 | ariel_ | ~docs |
| 17:08.04 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 17:08.06 | MuppetMaster | Luhiwu - I just gave SF +1.415 a call and worked great. |
| 17:08.22 | ariel_ | lesouvage, see the above documentations |
| 17:09.15 | Godsey | I love setting callerid to something like |
| 17:09.19 | Godsey | "Wakup Call" |
| 17:09.20 | MuppetMaster | Luhiwu - Spain (Sevilla) as well and it worked fine on Voipjet. |
| 17:09.25 | Godsey | er Wakeup :) |
| 17:09.29 | ariel_ | I will be back later. Going to see a customer. Maybe starbucks has wireless access there that I can use... |
| 17:09.35 | Godsey | w/ my # but then people don't even have to answer :) |
| 17:09.40 | kuonSama | anybody use sccp phones here? |
| 17:09.46 | Godsey | and their caller id announce says Wakeup Call! |
| 17:10.43 | Essobi | Hmm. I want a wifi sip phone |
| 17:10.55 | *** join/#asterisk zyke (~zakforeve@84.45.132.117) |
| 17:11.00 | Nugget | do not buy the zyxel/pulver phone. |
| 17:11.08 | stepcutHM | Nugget: sucks ? |
| 17:11.09 | Essobi | I want a windows SIP phone that'll do video and URL handling too. :) |
| 17:11.11 | JerJer | I hear the Hitachi one is good |
| 17:11.14 | Nugget | tremendously. |
| 17:11.23 | Essobi | Hitachi? I'll have to look into that. |
| 17:11.25 | Nugget | vaewyn seems really happy with his hitachi one. |
| 17:11.34 | Luhiwu | MuppetMaster: it works now, i've phoned myself and worked fine, but i had same problem last night and a few minutes ago, i'm new to voipjet, didn't know if it is usual or not |
| 17:11.34 | Essobi | $$? |
| 17:11.39 | Nugget | $300 or so I think. |
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| 17:11.46 | Essobi | OW. |
| 17:11.53 | JerJer | yeah that does hurt |
| 17:12.03 | Essobi | Hey JerJer It's been a while since I've looked.. what's the state of the H323 drivers now? |
| 17:12.12 | Nugget | doesn't hurt nearly as bad as the $250 I spent on the zyxel one. :) |
| 17:12.17 | Nugget | http://www.andrews.edu/wwwrogue/voip/WIP5000.html |
| 17:12.21 | Nugget | ^ vaewyn's review |
| 17:12.27 | Luhiwu | MuppetMaster: busy again right now, any destination in argentina :( |
| 17:12.42 | stepcutHM | Essobi: maybe you want a wince handheld with wifi+bluetooth ? |
| 17:12.52 | JerJer | Essobi: my driver works. The problem that people have with them is H.323 interop now |
| 17:13.02 | JerJer | or they simply cannot read the damn README |
| 17:13.07 | Essobi | I wound up using an AS5300 to transcode sip to H323. :) |
| 17:13.09 | Essobi | Mahaha. |
| 17:13.25 | JerJer | that's not transcoding, but ok |
| 17:13.41 | Essobi | I think they want their 5300 back.. It is.. 729 on one sid and 711 on the other.. + proto conversion. |
| 17:13.51 | Essobi | s/sid/side |
| 17:14.02 | JerJer | get a 3600 seres |
| 17:14.04 | JerJer | series |
| 17:14.15 | JerJer | if u must use H.323 |
| 17:14.17 | Essobi | Hehe... Yea? How many streams you think I can push with it? |
| 17:14.25 | JerJer | no idea |
| 17:14.32 | Luhiwu | JerJer, i have some problems getting differents context to work on h323 based on peer ip address, do you know why can it be? all the calls come into the default extension |
| 17:14.32 | kuonSama | I got multiple interfaces on my asterisk box. Asterisk seem to have a problem determining wich ip he has to use. It use 127.0.0.1 for rtp instead of the correct ip |
| 17:14.36 | kuonSama | any idea? |
| 17:14.46 | Essobi | Well.. the legacy cisco call manager (they won't upgrade) only support H323 and MGCP.. I havn't played with the MGCP at all.. |
| 17:14.53 | JerJer | Crisco has a ios load that will convert H.323 into SIP and the other wya |
| 17:14.54 | JerJer | way |
| 17:15.06 | JerJer | sucks to be you |
| 17:15.17 | Essobi | Luhiwu I had that problem long long ago. |
| 17:15.35 | Essobi | JerJer Yea, well.. I can't blame them.. I wouldn't want to retrain 5000 people either. |
| 17:15.40 | JerJer | Luhiwu: run cvs -head, that crap was fixed many moons ago |
| 17:15.51 | JerJer | how would they even know? |
| 17:15.55 | Essobi | Hehe. |
| 17:16.04 | JerJer | i've fork lifted countless CCMs |
| 17:16.07 | Essobi | People notice when things work differents. |
| 17:16.10 | Luhiwu | JerJer: thanks. Is head as stable as the normal branch? |
| 17:16.15 | Essobi | CCMEs or software CCMs? |
| 17:16.26 | JerJer | lol -stable is what is going to BECOME stable |
| 17:16.29 | Essobi | 3.0 was drastically different from 3.2 |
| 17:16.30 | lesouvage | jbot ariel : I have looked into that but I seem to miss the very forst step. I have tried an earlier version and I remember that I could do something like "dial 1234" just to check if the server was running fine but that doesn't work. Btw, thanks for the links. |
| 17:16.56 | Essobi | lesouvage Dude. |
| 17:17.03 | Luhiwu | JerJer: thanks |
| 17:17.04 | Essobi | Jbot is a bot, and ariel left. |
| 17:17.41 | Essobi | I think I'm going to wind up making chan_sccp working. |
| 17:18.01 | Essobi | and convincing them to let me make a drop in replacement for the CCM3.0 and 3.2 servers. |
| 17:18.34 | Essobi | I'd rather see them throw 40K at hardware then 40K at licensing anyday. |
| 17:19.00 | Essobi | "And on this side of the datacenter, is our Asterisk cluster." |
| 17:19.05 | Nugget | I'd love to be able to use a 7920. |
| 17:19.18 | JerJer | no you don't |
| 17:19.19 | JerJer | they suck |
| 17:19.21 | Nugget | oh? |
| 17:19.23 | Nugget | dang. |
| 17:19.27 | Essobi | 7910's wanxor |
| 17:19.35 | Essobi | 7960/14 are the roxors. |
| 17:19.43 | Nugget | yeah, I've got a 7960 and I love it. |
| 17:19.50 | Essobi | Hehe. I got a bunch. |
| 17:20.01 | kuonSama | I got a 7920 |
| 17:20.03 | Essobi | Reminds me.. I need to go pillage the graveyard again. |
| 17:20.10 | Essobi | kuonSama Yea? |
| 17:20.14 | Essobi | You like? |
| 17:20.17 | kuonSama | yes |
| 17:20.20 | Essobi | Hmm. |
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| 17:20.26 | Essobi | What're you running it with? |
| 17:20.29 | kuonSama | but I got a single way audio since I changed to asterisk two day ago |
| 17:20.32 | kuonSama | sccp |
| 17:20.39 | Essobi | chan_sccp? Nice. |
| 17:20.48 | kuonSama | yes |
| 17:20.52 | kuonSama | but I got a problem with rtp |
| 17:21.06 | kuonSama | asterisk give 127.0.0.1 as an endpoint to the phones |
| 17:21.09 | Essobi | I see some future dev time spent on making that work better with the 7914s. |
| 17:21.22 | kuonSama | so I got single way audio |
| 17:21.41 | Essobi | Yea, we'll have to get re-invites and the whole 9 working intelligently to use it. |
| 17:21.59 | Essobi | Anyways.. I got to boogie, need to clean. Have a good night all. |
| 17:22.05 | Essobi | Jerjer.. Have a good one. |
| 17:23.47 | Godsey | kuonSama: maybe you need canreinvite-no |
| 17:23.58 | ManxPower | kuonSama, make sure the ip address of the server is resolvable. |
| 17:24.05 | ManxPower | /etc/hosts is an easy way. |
| 17:24.19 | kuonSama | Godsey: that's ok |
| 17:24.23 | kuonSama | ManxPower: it's ok too |
| 17:24.25 | Zeeek | join #asterisk-stable |
| 17:24.38 | kuonSama | I'm on HEAD |
| 17:24.39 | Zeeek | or don't |
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| 17:26.51 | Godsey | and set the bind ip in sip.conf |
| 17:27.00 | kuonSama | I did |
| 17:27.05 | kuonSama | bindaddr |
| 17:27.41 | Mike_TK | Hello guys. What can be a reason of one way choppy sound while converting from GSM to G729? |
| 17:27.47 | BrianR___ | Wow.. Adtran channel banks are like $500 on eBay.. For some reason I thought they'd be more expensive... |
| 17:29.03 | Mike_TK | I bought 50 licenses yesterday, and very sad that it not working as expected :( |
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| 17:33.22 | eKo1 | I download this mrtg script that connects to port 5038. Anybody know what app. uses that port? |
| 17:34.32 | eKo1 | Oh, I see. It's the asterisk manager. |
| 17:34.59 | kuonSama | I still got == Telling Endpoint to use 127.0.0.1(32512):15816 |
| 17:35.06 | kuonSama | unable to change this ip |
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| 17:42.07 | BrianR___ | ooh.. The new budgetones have ilbc... |
| 17:42.16 | Zeeek | the old ones do too |
| 17:42.26 | PakiPenguin | BrianR___: which firmware! |
| 17:42.30 | Zeeek | since about 5.11 |
| 17:42.53 | BrianR___ | PakiPenguin: See what zeek said.. It's a firmware thing.. |
| 17:43.07 | BrianR___ | We had a few budgetones at the office about a year or so old... They had uberstale firmware on 'em.. |
| 17:43.09 | PakiPenguin | got your farfons? |
| 17:43.16 | Zeeek | NO! |
| 17:43.20 | BrianR___ | Is there anything cheaper than the budgetone? |
| 17:43.25 | Zeeek | WASIM !!!!! I'm COMING TO GET YOU |
| 17:43.41 | Zeeek | there are chinese fones for $50 or so |
| 17:43.47 | Zeeek | they even do iax |
| 17:43.54 | Zeeek | $50 + $35 shipping |
| 17:43.57 | BrianR___ | better or worse build than the budgetone... |
| 17:44.03 | Zeeek | = more than GS $75 |
| 17:44.04 | PakiPenguin | Zeeek: link me?????? |
| 17:44.09 | BrianR___ | Heh.. That's tough on the shipping... |
| 17:44.18 | PakiPenguin | shipping fron china to pk is cheap |
| 17:44.32 | Zeeek | I'm considering them but wanna buy a Polytione like all the really cool guys here ;) |
| 17:44.35 | eKo1 | Man, my screen just got flooded with ast_rtp_read: Unknown RTP codec 126 received |
| 17:44.42 | Zeeek | Paki just a sec I'll get it for ya |
| 17:44.49 | PakiPenguin | thanks Zeeek |
| 17:44.53 | eKo1 | How can I check which peer is sending this rtp codec? |
| 17:45.28 | mafkees | tcpdump ;) |
| 17:45.43 | Zeeek | PakiPenguin it's http://www.iaxtalk.com |
| 17:45.49 | eKo1 | Hmm...too late now. |
| 17:46.04 | PakiPenguin | its really 50$? |
| 17:46.09 | Zeeek | sorry it's $59 |
| 17:46.21 | Zeeek | I'd get the 2 port one, so $69 |
| 17:46.26 | Zeeek | they have iax adapters too |
| 17:46.39 | PakiPenguin | i am getting it too |
| 17:46.48 | Zeeek | http://www.iaxtalk.com/product_info.php?products_id=36 |
| 17:46.56 | Zeeek | oops that's the one port |
| 17:46.59 | BrianR___ | The AT-320EE looks suspiciously snom like.. |
| 17:47.13 | PakiPenguin | yup , 2 port is there too |
| 17:47.34 | Zeeek | http://www.iaxtalk.com/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=29 |
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| 17:47.47 | Zeeek | but it does IAX |
| 17:47.49 | ScythelX | hello all, anyone have a cisco 7940/7960 series phone |
| 17:47.51 | eKo1 | Is anybody using one of those? |
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| 17:48.11 | odie_flocon | hey how can I talk in the above mentiond conference? |
| 17:48.28 | BrianR___ | No POE though :( |
| 17:48.51 | eKo1 | The one port fxs looks huge. |
| 17:49.00 | ScythelX | well if they do does anyone know why the phone always saying configuring IP doesnt matter if its on DHCP or static ip |
| 17:49.35 | odie_flocon | where does it say that? |
| 17:49.47 | BrianR___ | Phones without POE wouldn't be so bad if there was a small rechargable battery built in... But otherwise, I can't use 'em as office phones.. |
| 17:50.08 | PakiPenguin | BrianR___: we have tons of power sockets around |
| 17:50.20 | BrianR___ | PakiPenguin: We got tons too - but only a handful on ups or genset |
| 17:51.04 | BrianR___ | Need to have working phones through short power outages.. |
| 17:51.08 | PakiPenguin | ah , we route all power sockets near computers thru ups , the rest of office is backed up by gen too |
| 17:51.13 | WilliamK | BrianR, ever looked at using RedHawk's power-over-ethernet splitters to power your non-POE native phones? |
| 17:51.38 | BrianR___ | If there's a multi-hour outage, we close the office anyway. |
| 17:51.45 | BrianR___ | WilliamK: No.. I'd like to check that out. |
| 17:51.56 | odie_flocon | you mean like the one we had a couple years ago? |
| 17:52.06 | Zeeek | eko1 yeah I noticed that. I heard someone say they had one of these phones and that it was ok for the price |
| 17:53.10 | BrianR___ | wahaha. the Netgear FS108P (a tiny little soho hub) has POE. |
| 17:53.30 | odie_flocon | yeah |
| 17:53.43 | Zeeek | doesn't POE require $30 cable for each phone? |
| 17:53.49 | odie_flocon | it's a 8 port hub with 4 port poe right |
| 17:53.53 | BrianR___ | odie_flocon: yeah. |
| 17:53.54 | odie_flocon | no |
| 17:53.59 | odie_flocon | just a network cable |
| 17:54.19 | Zeeek | that's not what the polycom site implies |
| 17:54.21 | BrianR___ | Zeeek: Depends on the phone. Some nonstandard phones require special cables, but the good ones just need an ordinary 8 wire ethernet patch cable. |
| 17:54.46 | odie_flocon | what model you looking at the 600? |
| 17:54.47 | Zeeek | it does seem like a waste of time if a phone needs a special expensive cable |
| 17:54.50 | odie_flocon | or he 300? |
| 17:54.54 | Zeeek | 500/600 ya |
| 17:54.56 | BrianR___ | I have a polycom soundpoint ip400, which has a special cable on it for non-poe use. It has a little lump on the cord where a wall-wart type power supply connects. |
| 17:55.09 | Zeeek | they come with poe but it talks abouit a $30 cable not incl |
| 17:55.21 | Zeeek | Optional |
| 17:55.22 | mafkees | I'm off |
| 17:55.30 | BrianR___ | (There's no seperate port for power on the Soundpoint IP400) |
| 17:55.42 | Zeeek | in fact not polycom site, somewhere where I'm considering buying one |
| 17:56.10 | BrianR___ | I'm pretty sure the special cable is for if you _don't_ have a PoE capable switch... |
| 17:56.17 | odie_flocon | you see polycoms come with a power adapter |
| 17:56.38 | odie_flocon | that's probably true |
| 17:56.46 | Zeeek | heh I thought it was aticom: but going tot he first guess at domain gives http://banners.leadingedgecash.com/banners/vigpillvert11.jpg |
| 17:56.59 | Zeeek | ya I need a power adapter for 220 tho |
| 17:57.14 | odie_flocon | hmmm right. |
| 17:57.29 | Zeeek | shit now I can't find them |
| 17:57.44 | odie_flocon | doe |
| 17:58.12 | Zeeek | was denon I mentioned this to |
| 17:58.40 | Zeeek | anyway, the phone does come with a ps but they offer this $30 cable which like I said, to me sucks |
| 17:58.58 | odie_flocon | it's probably a power inserter cable. |
| 17:59.01 | BrianR___ | Hmm.. No.. It's a Polycom IP500 that I have here.. |
| 17:59.29 | odie_flocon | so you can insert the power by the switch. |
| 18:00.04 | odie_flocon | I can get a polycom 600, for about $310 Cad. |
| 18:00.20 | BrianR___ | that's still pretty expensive... |
| 18:00.32 | BrianR___ | Wish I could find a <$100 phone that does PoE |
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| 18:00.44 | odie_flocon | brian that's their most expensive |
| 18:00.59 | Zeeek | how much is CAD worth in $ ? |
| 18:01.11 | odie_flocon | in US dollars? |
| 18:01.14 | BrianR___ | odie_flocon: Prolly fine for office employees.. But I need cheapie phones for the cubefarm too. |
| 18:01.48 | odie_flocon | it's probably about 280 US |
| 18:02.05 | eKo1 | Are there any sip/iax devices that work with PoE |
| 18:02.07 | eKo1 | ? |
| 18:02.17 | Mother_ | later all |
| 18:02.17 | odie_flocon | polycom's do |
| 18:02.24 | odie_flocon | later Mo |
| 18:04.00 | odie_flocon | hmmm well I"d chat longer but I gotta go now so ttyl. |
| 18:04.16 | BrianR___ | Can't use budgetones in the office since they have neither PoE nor per appearance auto-answer |
| 18:04.43 | odie_flocon | go with the lower end polycom's |
| 18:04.52 | odie_flocon | the 300, is a pretty good price. |
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| 18:06.31 | BrianR___ | Well.. Considering we now spend $30 for Norstar 7100 sets for the cubefarm and $60 for 7310 speakerphones, that's quite a hike :) |
| 18:07.04 | odie_flocon | how can I get voice in the conf listed in the heading? |
| 18:08.04 | odie_flocon | you can get cheap IP phones as well. |
| 18:08.35 | odie_flocon | NORTEL SUX |
| 18:08.41 | odie_flocon | IT's canadian made. |
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| 18:09.11 | BrianR___ | The IP300 is around $140 US... It is one of the modules requiring the special cable for PoE though... |
| 18:09.17 | odie_flocon | how do I get unmuted in the above confrence. |
| 18:09.26 | odie_flocon | no that's not true brian. |
| 18:09.30 | BrianR___ | *1 |
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| 18:10.55 | odie_flocon | sorry |
| 18:11.02 | odie_flocon | you need Cisco inline powering. |
| 18:11.33 | odie_flocon | how do I talk in the above conference???? |
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| 18:19.06 | Zeeek | ~seen denon |
| 18:19.18 | jbot | denon is currently on #asterisk |
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| 18:19.26 | Zeeek | obviously |
| 18:19.48 | Zeeek | ah wait, I can look in my channel log |
| 18:20.20 | af_ | what sdk exists to develop activex? |
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| 18:21.01 | Sedorox | wiewwww activeX.. |
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| 18:22.41 | hcclnoodles | is there anyone from digium support on here? |
| 18:23.07 | Sedorox | dunnno.. but normally people can help.. so just ask a question... |
| 18:23.56 | hcclnoodles | TDM400p in the UK, it doesnt detect the hangup signal (which is a 15-30 second constant tone set by the telco) |
| 18:24.17 | Sedorox | hmmm |
| 18:24.28 | hcclnoodles | everyone who owns the card in the UK has the same problem, but digium seem to be ignoring our cries |
| 18:24.59 | Sedorox | interesting |
| 18:25.14 | Strom_TM | In the US, far end disconnect supervision is usually provided by a momentary battery drop. Does nothing like that exist in the UK? |
| 18:25.17 | Sedorox | I'm not from the UK.. so I can't really help you... but that is weird that they won't help |
| 18:25.43 | hcclnoodles | it hangs up if the line is quiet (default timeout) but if the customer hangs up during some hold music for example, * just keeps the call open indefinately) |
| 18:26.15 | Zeeek | i suppose you've read the mailing list on this UK thing? It has come up but I dunno if there was a solution |
| 18:26.16 | Sedorox | I have a problem where _sometimes_ (dunno.. haven't tested it too much) if a person hangs up while in queue.. it doesn't detect the hangout... |
| 18:27.00 | Zeeek | dinnertime here so good evening/morning to y'all |
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| 18:27.14 | hcclnoodles | no solution as yet, were waiting for some official acknowledgement of the problem from digium but as yet, nothing |
| 18:27.31 | Sedorox | I would think its you paid them for the card.. they would help.... |
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| 18:29.01 | Strom_TM | hcclnoodles, if I knew C, I'd help you try to patch the driver :) |
| 18:29.09 | hcclnoodles | ive sent 4 emails, and recieved an automated ticket response, but nothing else |
| 18:29.38 | [cc]smart | hi all, somebody here who could give advice on setup for hfc NT mode ? i mean, i got the card and it seems to correctly communicate with my asterisk. now i need to find a work dialplan or better zapata.conf |
| 18:30.45 | [cc]smart | when i use an isdn telephone it comes in and wants to start on dialplan "s" entry. i expect a "target telephone number" come in , but that isn't the case. |
| 18:30.47 | hcclnoodles | are you guys gonna be online for a while ?, i wouldnt mind telling you more about the problem, but ill be gone for half an hour |
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| 18:35.37 | af_ | how to have a softphone client on a web site? |
| 18:37.34 | Goshen | af: here is one way - http://www.freeworlddialup.com/content/view/full/332/ |
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| 18:45.58 | [cc]smart | this is what i get from zaphfc interface: Accepting overlap voice call from '6001' to '<unspecified>' on channel 0/2, span 1 |
| 18:46.15 | [cc]smart | what i did not expect is "unsecified" in there |
| 18:46.17 | [cc]smart | how comes ? |
| 18:46.40 | [cc]smart | this zaphfc is in NT mode |
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| 19:06.36 | ctooley | Has anyone written a modified web client for voicemail that takes Realtime voicemail mailboxes into account? |
| 19:06.47 | PMantis | My voicemail config will send an email when a VM is left. Is there a way to call an AGI script instead? |
| 19:08.47 | ManxPower | [cc]smart, set immediate=no |
| 19:09.07 | ManxPower | PMantis, no. |
| 19:09.34 | ManxPower | PMantis, but you can have it run pretty much any program when voicemail is left. |
| 19:09.57 | ManxPower | That program could generate a .call file that calls a Local/ extension, which then runs an AGI script. |
| 19:10.06 | PMantis | ManxPower, really?? |
| 19:10.34 | PMantis | Well, if I can call any shell program or script, then why bother with AGI? (at least for my purpose) :) |
| 19:10.42 | ManxPower | PMantis, see /path/to/asterisk/src/configs/voicemail.conf.sample |
| 19:10.52 | ManxPower | PMantis, I don't know, but you asked about AGI. |
| 19:10.52 | PMantis | hmmm |
| 19:11.13 | PMantis | I was in there, perehaps I didn't notice that before |
| 19:11.16 | PMantis | Thanks! |
| 19:11.43 | ManxPower | PMantis, options are added to the sample config files ALL the time. Best to check them every time you install a significantly updated version of Asterisk |
| 19:11.51 | PMantis | ManxPower, That's 'cause I figured AGI would be the only way to run something... which is basically a shell script in perl, so not a huge difference. :) |
| 19:12.04 | PMantis | true |
| 19:12.23 | PMantis | LOL |
| 19:12.51 | ManxPower | Well, OK, maybe only old unix geeks call "*" "splat" |
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| 19:17.12 | ManxPower | 1. Name used in many places (DEC, IBM, and others) for the |
| 19:17.12 | ManxPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.12 | ManxPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.12 | ManxPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.31 | ManxPower | http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/splat |
| 19:17.56 | Sedorox | lol |
| 19:18.05 | ManxPower | splat n. |
| 19:18.05 | ManxPower | 1. Name used in many places (DEC, IBM, and others) for the asterisk (*) character (ASCII 0101010). This may derive from the `squashed-bug' appearance of the asterisk on many early line printers. 2. [MIT] Name used by some people for the # character (ASCII 0100011). 3. The feature key on a Mac (same as alt, sense 2). 4. obs. Name used by some people for the Stanford/ITS extended ASCII circle-x character. This character is also called `b |
| 19:18.05 | ManxPower | lobby' and `frob', among other names; it is sometimes used by mathematicians as a notation for `tensor product'. 5. obs. Name for the semi-mythical Stanford extended ASCII circle-plus character. See also ASCII. |
| 19:18.16 | ManxPower | http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=splat |
| 19:18.36 | ScythelX | anyone know where i can purchase a license agreement for a cisco 7940 ip phone / it cant be directly form cisco it has to be through a reseller |
| 19:18.43 | ScythelX | form/from |
| 19:18.49 | ManxPower | scardinal, easiest to go thru a reseller |
| 19:19.08 | ManxPower | Syncros, SIP, H323, MGCP, SCCP, or support "license agreement"? |
| 19:19.17 | ScythelX | SIP |
| 19:19.17 | scardinal | ManxPower: Don't think you meant me ;) |
| 19:19.31 | ScythelX | I just need to the sip image for the phone |
| 19:19.36 | ManxPower | scardinal, Correct. You are a victum of a Drive By Auto Nick Completion. |
| 19:19.39 | ScythelX | heh |
| 19:19.41 | scardinal | ManxPower: lol |
| 19:21.07 | ScythelX | I guess it would be the maintence agreement |
| 19:21.12 | ScythelX | i just want ot get this phone working |
| 19:21.49 | goatmilk | matt n... where are you |
| 19:21.51 | ManxPower | ScythelX, A support contract does not give you the LEGAL right to get the SIP software. |
| 19:22.03 | ManxPower | However, I believe you can phyically download it and install it. |
| 19:22.34 | ScythelX | yeah but I cant download it from cisco without a service contract it wont allow access to that portion of the website |
| 19:22.46 | Sedorox | do you know if the cisco phones you get from voip-supply have the sip image? |
| 19:23.05 | ManxPower | Sedorox, SIP firmware costs like $120 |
| 19:23.20 | Sedorox | guess no |
| 19:23.21 | Sedorox | not |
| 19:23.23 | ManxPower | So if they are about $120 higher than you would expect then they prolly do. but I doubt that is the case. |
| 19:23.42 | ScythelX | ugh calling CDW |
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| 19:24.43 | Trionnis | anyone around that's familiar with the "404 Not Found" problems with BroadVoice? |
| 19:24.46 | Sedorox | 7960 = $300 |
| 19:24.57 | ManxPower | I like the Polycom SIP phones. |
| 19:25.13 | cpatry | i love the polycoms too. |
| 19:25.15 | |Vulture| | Trionnis: what version are you running of *? |
| 19:25.23 | ManxPower | They won't support Asterisk users (neither will Cisco), but at least Polycom includes a power supply and SIP firmware with their phones. |
| 19:25.25 | Sedorox | I don't really like the style of them... |
| 19:25.34 | Trionnis | I'll look, 1 sec |
| 19:25.53 | Trionnis | 1.0.5 |
| 19:26.05 | Sedorox | they look like nice phones.. via usability.. but the style of it just doesn't catch me... |
| 19:26.06 | PyroSteve | can someone remind me where to change the speed that asterisk uses to dial a number when using a tdm card ? |
| 19:26.27 | Trionnis | outbound works fine |
| 19:26.30 | PyroSteve | like one can do with a dial up modem with 's' registers |
| 19:26.32 | Trionnis | inbound doesn't |
| 19:26.35 | Chuji | between each digit? |
| 19:26.45 | PyroSteve | no, from first to last digit |
| 19:26.47 | Trionnis | and I'm getting this in sip debug: |
| 19:26.48 | Trionnis | Sip read: |
| 19:26.48 | Trionnis | SIP/2.0 404 Not Found |
| 19:26.52 | Chuji | PyroSteve : you can use 'w' before you dial |
| 19:26.58 | |Vulture| | Trionnis: that 404 error happens sometimes when they ban the IP of the user because he is running an old version of * or unpatched with BV |
| 19:27.05 | PyroSteve | Chuji: yeah, that just delays the start of the dial |
| 19:27.15 | PyroSteve | Chuji: yeah, im sorry |
| 19:27.18 | Trionnis | I just set it up about 10 minutes ago |
| 19:27.18 | PyroSteve | between each digit |
| 19:27.20 | Trionnis | :) |
| 19:27.33 | Trionnis | broadvoice, that is |
| 19:27.37 | PyroSteve | Chuji: I read somewhere that I would have to change it in the source |
| 19:27.46 | PyroSteve | Chuji: but cant find the post |
| 19:28.12 | Trionnis | er |
| 19:28.14 | Trionnis | patch? |
| 19:28.23 | Trionnis | I thought that was rolled into cvs |
| 19:28.27 | |Vulture| | Trionnis: oh than that isn't it, does it register? "sip show registry" |
| 19:28.40 | Trionnis | yes |
| 19:28.43 | Trionnis | it's working |
| 19:28.49 | PyroSteve | Chuji: any ideas ? |
| 19:28.51 | Trionnis | outbound works flawlessly |
| 19:28.56 | Trionnis | inbound is the problem |
| 19:29.07 | Trionnis | I've got a sipmedia line on the same box, and it has no issues |
| 19:29.11 | Chuji | PyroSteve : I'm looking through some config notes. I've had to do that before |
| 19:29.12 | Trionnis | if that matters |
| 19:29.18 | PyroSteve | Chuji: oh ok thanks |
| 19:29.32 | PyroSteve | Chuji: some variable in the source |
| 19:29.37 | ScythelX | ugh this is annoying |
| 19:29.51 | PyroSteve | Chuji: im searching the archives from the mailing lists |
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| 19:29.55 | PyroSteve | Chuji: but cant find it |
| 19:30.18 | PyroSteve | hey guys, Ive come into a tough problem that I finally found a fix for |
| 19:30.32 | PyroSteve | A server that im installing worked great at my office |
| 19:30.41 | PyroSteve | but when i brought it to the customer |
| 19:30.51 | Trionnis | |Vulture|: http://pastebin.ca/6482 |
| 19:30.58 | Trionnis | that's from sip debug |
| 19:31.05 | PyroSteve | about 50% of my outbound calls through the pots line wouldn't go through |
| 19:31.05 | |Vulture| | Trionnis: just to test comment out the other register => |
| 19:31.21 | PyroSteve | I think the server is dialing to soon |
| 19:31.37 | PyroSteve | hopefully the 'w' option fixes my problem |
| 19:31.54 | PyroSteve | it was hard for me to spot where the problem lies |
| 19:31.55 | Trionnis | same thing |
| 19:32.07 | PyroSteve | ever by listening in on a butt set |
| 19:32.16 | PyroSteve | s/ever/even |
| 19:32.29 | Trionnis | you were listening to someone's butt? |
| 19:32.32 | |Vulture| | Trionnis: oky gimme 5 I just got out of the shower Ill help you in a bit |
| 19:32.41 | Trionnis | (that's a joke, btw, I'm not that much of a n00b) |
| 19:32.42 | PyroSteve | Trionnis: Now, a set of butts |
| 19:32.46 | Chuji | PyroSteve : The 'w' should fix that |
| 19:32.47 | Trionnis | wow |
| 19:32.50 | Trionnis | multiples! |
| 19:32.58 | Trionnis | I'm impressed with your skill |
| 19:33.01 | Trionnis | ;) |
| 19:33.11 | Trionnis | thanks |Vulture| |
| 19:33.16 | Trionnis | it's appreciated |
| 19:33.26 | PyroSteve | Chuji: well since im going to delay the dialing, id figure i want to speed on the dialing to compensate |
| 19:33.26 | Sedorox | http://www.eezeephone.com/index_files/pap2.htm hmmm... apparently it isn't 'pre-configured' as JerJer would put it....... |
| 19:33.30 | Sedorox | any comments on that? |
| 19:33.34 | sine | i have some newbie questions, maybe someone has time for thinking a littlebit about them. we have the following scenario: there's a non-video capable sip phone which should be able to call and be called by a video capable sip softphone. we now need the possibility to tell the video capable UA into activating video nontheless, but streaming that video to and from a different host than the non-video sip phone. |
| 19:33.58 | sine | so is there any way to configure asterisk into "rerouting" the rtp video streams? |
| 19:34.15 | sine | or maybe a completely different way (conference or similar) to enable something like that? |
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| 19:35.20 | Trionnis | you could always redirect it with iptables |
| 19:35.30 | Trionnis | and yes, that's a joke too |
| 19:35.34 | sine | yes, thanks :-) |
| 19:35.41 | Trionnis | :) |
| 19:36.31 | sine | well, it would already help to be able to make the asterisk box the actual endpoint for the video streams. that would enable us to use an rtp proxy to get the streams somewhere else... |
| 19:36.53 | sine | and i think that must be possible somehow (as video might also be routed over iax), or am i completely wrong on that? |
| 19:37.28 | PyroSteve | Chuji: any luck on your search ... i still haven't found it |
| 19:37.52 | PyroSteve | Chuji: ahhh found it |
| 19:38.03 | ScythelX | well that sucks balls |
| 19:38.13 | PyroSteve | zaptels driver digits.h |
| 19:38.33 | PyroSteve | #defind DEAFULT_DTMF_LENGTH 100 * 5 |
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| 19:41.50 | denvermark1234 | Hi folks, could use some help, I wrote a little app to use asterisk and festival to provide me info from the web spoken to my cell phone. I am using a sixtel DID and have a cable modem. I went out on a drive today and called from my cellphone through the DID to my computer and the call quality is unacceptable--choppy, dropped words. When I do the same through my pots line or locally using a softphone its good. Any settings I |
| 19:42.14 | Trionnis | well first of all, get a better cell carrier |
| 19:42.17 | Trionnis | :) |
| 19:42.33 | PyroSteve | Broadvoice's customer server stinks !! |
| 19:42.33 | |Vulture| | oky I am back |
| 19:43.07 | |Vulture| | Trionnis: pastebin your registry and just insert *ACCT* and *PASSWD* where they are |
| 19:43.08 | JerJer | i am front |
| 19:43.09 | Trionnis | PyroSteve: you can say that again |
| 19:43.13 | PyroSteve | Broadvoice's customer server stinks !! |
| 19:43.14 | Trionnis | k |
| 19:43.16 | Trionnis | lol |
| 19:43.18 | PyroSteve | hehe |
| 19:43.20 | Trionnis | touche' |
| 19:43.21 | Trionnis | ;) |
| 19:43.24 | |Vulture| | PyroSteve: we got it |
| 19:43.34 | denvermark1234 | I think you are joking but it cant be the cell phone since calling from the cell phone to my landline (through a digium card) works great |
| 19:43.41 | JerJer | its like those cock sucker |
| 19:43.44 | JerJer | s at nufone |
| 19:43.46 | JerJer | damn keyboard |
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| 19:43.47 | |Vulture| | LOL |
| 19:43.52 | PyroSteve | hehe |
| 19:43.52 | JerJer | messed that one up |
| 19:43.59 | JerJer | who moved my enter key |
| 19:44.26 | blaisen1 | jerjer: have you managed to get any better rates on canadian toll-free origination? |
| 19:44.31 | PyroSteve | I love the emails I get from nufone that reminds me of my balence .... |
| 19:44.33 | PyroSteve | that rocks |
| 19:44.39 | JerJer | blaisen1: not trying to |
| 19:44.50 | sine | trionnis: but besides that - good - joke you don't have any ideas on redirecting video streams? do you maybe know if they actually end up in the asterisk's media gateway? |
| 19:45.06 | |Vulture| | JerJer: do you guys do auto billing when you get to a certian threshhold? |
| 19:45.13 | JerJer | auto? |
| 19:45.16 | Trionnis | well |
| 19:45.18 | Trionnis | it wasn't that good |
| 19:45.21 | Trionnis | ;) |
| 19:45.25 | Trionnis | and no, I don't |
| 19:45.39 | sine | well, it was the best i've seen in reaction to my posting ;-) |
| 19:45.39 | |Vulture| | JerJer: like when it gets to $10 it auto bills like $100 more or something like that |
| 19:45.40 | Trionnis | I've not done video via * |
| 19:45.56 | sine | trionnis: thanks anyways! :-) |
| 19:45.57 | JerJer | |Vulture|: have you looked at our website? |
| 19:46.00 | JerJer | :) |
| 19:46.00 | PyroSteve | yeah... so it never runs out |
| 19:46.02 | Trionnis | |Vulture|: check pm plz |
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| 19:46.17 | blaisen1 | anybody know where to get 800 numbers with canadian origination at a reasonable price via IAX or SIP? |
| 19:46.26 | Trionnis | sorry I'm only of use for lame jokes today |
| 19:46.45 | blaisen1 | ....tried livevoip because it worked from canada and their rates sort of implied it was 1.29 cents/minute but their homepage keeps changing which makes me a bit nervous |
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| 19:46.57 | Nebukadneza | hi |
| 19:47.26 | blaisen1 | pyrosteve: i would too, nufone rocks, but 10 cents/minute for canadian origination is too much when i can get it from primus on my pstn for 4.5 cents canadian |
| 19:47.30 | Nebukadneza | is there something like a howto for sip 2 isdn (a avm card, so ... chan_capi?)? |
| 19:47.56 | PyroSteve | blaisen1: word ! |
| 19:48.11 | ScythelX | wow none of these mool bags can sell me a smartnet contact for this cisco phone |
| 19:49.04 | BrianR___ | hi |
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| 19:51.03 | ariel_ | Good afternoon everyone |
| 19:51.13 | denvermark1234 | can anyone help me with my call quality, id appreciate it, see post above |
| 19:51.41 | Nebukadneza | hm ... there is _really_ no good asterisk documentation |
| 19:51.51 | Trionnis | lol |
| 19:51.56 | Trionnis | ~docs |
| 19:51.57 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 19:52.02 | Trionnis | nope |
| 19:52.06 | Trionnis | =| |
| 19:52.18 | PyroSteve | i just got the new sipura phone |
| 19:52.20 | PyroSteve | its pretty cool |
| 19:52.27 | Nebukadneza | Trionnis: i read most of the (relevant) asteriskdocs.org stuff - still no idea -.- |
| 19:52.49 | ctooley | Nebukadneza, what did you consider "relevant" |
| 19:53.34 | Nebukadneza | http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/content/docbook/current_v1/docs-html/book1.html most stuff here ... |
| 19:54.07 | denvermark1234 | Maybe if Im more specific somebody might help, in iax.conf what codec allow value should I use to have the lowest bandwidth consumption? |
| 19:54.09 | ariel_ | PyroSteve, how does your phone sound? |
| 19:54.45 | Nebukadneza | or ... is there a less-bloated solution for a sip 2 isdn(capi) gateway? :/ |
| 19:55.03 | ariel_ | denvermark1234, codec will be g729 if you get the lisc from digium next one is g726 or gsm gsm is used most due to it sounds best out of the group. |
| 19:56.06 | denvermark1234 | ariel - so if I say allow=gsm will that force an iax call to use gsm or just reccomend it? |
| 19:56.55 | ScythelX | so has anyone here purchased the license for a cisco ip phone 79xx series? |
| 19:56.58 | ctooley | denvermark1234, you probably want to use disallow=all and then allow=ulaw for better quality. The problem on a cable modem isn't usually bandwidth, it's latency and changing codecs won't change that. |
| 19:57.01 | ariel_ | for you to force it you have to put disallow=all then allow=gsm for that context. |
| 19:58.02 | ctooley | ScythelX, I've sold quite a few of them but it's such a giant nightmare to find the right part number to sell from Cisco that we stopped doing business with them. |
| 19:58.57 | ariel_ | ctooley, you said it. Cisco requires the Sip/lic then the support package. |
| 19:59.02 | PyroSteve | ariel_: it sounds great !! |
| 19:59.21 | PyroSteve | the spa841's speaker phone is very loud as well |
| 19:59.39 | PyroSteve | but the thats just the speaker, i think the mic isn't very good |
| 19:59.49 | Frantic | PyroSteve: are you using spa841? |
| 19:59.50 | ariel_ | PyroSteve, I like it as well. At first the buttons feel well sticky but you get used to them. |
| 20:00.17 | PyroSteve | cause I tried calling my cell phone and my voice from the spa841 wasn't very loud |
| 20:00.35 | PyroSteve | i also tried calling someone else, and i said "hello ... .hello ..." and hungup |
| 20:00.50 | PyroSteve | so I mic isn't very good |
| 20:00.58 | PyroSteve | Frantic: yes |
| 20:01.31 | Frantic | PyroSteve> does the spa841 has comfort noise generation? (unlike budgetone phones- that you can't hear yourself when your talking) |
| 20:01.33 | PyroSteve | the spa841's configuration is similar to all the other ata |
| 20:01.53 | PyroSteve | Frantic: on the speakerphone ? |
| 20:01.58 | Frantic | on the handset |
| 20:02.13 | PyroSteve | Frantic: oh.... it sounds the same |
| 20:02.19 | PyroSteve | maybe a little less |
| 20:02.27 | Frantic | it's like when you blow to the mouth piece- you hear the blow on the ear piece |
| 20:02.28 | PyroSteve | little more quality |
| 20:02.44 | Frantic | so you don't think the line is dead |
| 20:03.18 | PyroSteve | ahhh yes... i re-read your previous question ... you can hear your self |
| 20:03.42 | Frantic | ok- that was a major draw back on the budgetones |
| 20:03.54 | denvermark1234 | thanks ctooley and ariel_, im going to test this out |
| 20:03.59 | PyroSteve | Frantic: i didn't noitce that on my bt102 |
| 20:04.02 | Frantic | people would think the phone is dead |
| 20:04.23 | harryvv | anyone here use the spa1000 and have a gain issue? |
| 20:04.31 | Frantic | you talk - you hear the other party well, they hear you- but you don't hear yourself so you think the line is dead |
| 20:05.23 | PyroSteve | Frantic: right, i see what you're saying |
| 20:05.30 | PyroSteve | but i just compared them both |
| 20:05.50 | PyroSteve | on my BT102, I can hear my self |
| 20:06.18 | PyroSteve | maybe not as good as the spa841, but i was never unhappy becuase of it |
| 20:06.29 | PyroSteve | ie. I never though the line was dead |
| 20:06.46 | Frantic | i'll give a try to the spa841 |
| 20:07.02 | PyroSteve | The lcd is a little hard to read |
| 20:07.11 | PyroSteve | the font is small |
| 20:07.28 | PyroSteve | and the 3d buttons on the lcd look a little crappy |
| 20:08.09 | ctooley | no problem denvermark1234 |
| 20:08.29 | PyroSteve | does anyone know if the compiler that is needed for the sipura's auto provision free or if it costs money ? |
| 20:09.21 | PyroSteve | Sipura site says to email sales@....com for access to the software |
| 20:09.27 | harryvv | anyone seen a case where every few hours the phone would ring once? this is not from a dial in. Seems a small anomoly perhaps in the ata. |
| 20:10.08 | PyroSteve | harryvv: I had similar problem when I pots line was used in paralell with the server |
| 20:10.31 | PyroSteve | s/when I pots/when my pots/ |
| 20:10.42 | PyroSteve | what kind of phone ? |
| 20:10.58 | PyroSteve | maybe its VM Notification ? |
| 20:12.10 | harryvv | Pyro okay mabe. Well we have a analog uniden on the backside of the pstn line that rings untill the * picks up. This was setup untill a ata or sip phone arived. The ata works now with the exception of a gain issue on the outgoing signal. Calling party would say I sound like I am talking 10 feet away from the phone. |
| 20:12.46 | harryvv | vm notification rings the phone? |
| 20:13.03 | PyroSteve | just guessing .. not sure of what setup you had ? |
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| 20:13.06 | harryvv | interesting |
| 20:13.09 | frank_sbr | hello all |
| 20:13.15 | PyroSteve | probably not then |
| 20:13.31 | denvermark1234 | ctooley - you said I might have latency problems, i ran a traceroute against the sixtel ip and see better than 100ms which based on some asterisk-l posts should be great. Any other thoughts, I tested gsm, Im going to test ulaw now, nothing great so far. Maybe sixtel is the problem? |
| 20:13.49 | frank_sbr | does anyone knows why I can't see any cpu for asterisk under fedora core 2 |
| 20:14.08 | frank_sbr | sorry cpu activities |
| 20:16.00 | harryvv | pyro thats actually a good idea since this is a ordinary black phone with no caller id. BTW, it would also be better that the vm would pulse the dial tone signifing a vm is in the system. |
| 20:16.27 | denvermark1234 | is there a way from cli to show the codec being used on an active call? |
| 20:16.49 | ctooley | denvermark1234, it might be a codec conversion on their part, when did you download asterisk and which version is it? |
| 20:17.26 | eKo1 | denvermark1234: You can find that out for sip devices with 'sip show channels' |
| 20:17.40 | eKo1 | and for iax devices: 'iax2 show channels' |
| 20:19.14 | denvermark1234 | eko - great that helps |
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| 20:24.27 | denvermark1234 | ctooley - about 10 days ago, cli show version shows CVS HEAD 2/10/05, I think the bandwidth might not be the problem now ... |
| 20:25.24 | denvermark1234 | ctooley - I am using festival and im noticing that the beginning of "sentences" is what is being cut off, is there an agi trick to make sure festival has the sentence prepared before it starts talking (or a festival trick), sorry if this is OT |
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| 20:31.00 | PyroSteve | I sure wish Broadvoice would return my call |
| 20:31.13 | PyroSteve | I need them to let me set the caller id info |
| 20:31.29 | PyroSteve | they dont seem to do that by default |
| 20:31.34 | harryvv | :) |
| 20:31.35 | PyroSteve | like Nufone or VoicePulse does |
| 20:31.45 | harryvv | take a number you are number 350 in line :) |
| 20:31.52 | PyroSteve | really ? |
| 20:31.57 | harryvv | jk of course |
| 20:31.57 | harryvv | :) |
| 20:32.08 | PyroSteve | well that isn't cool |
| 20:32.19 | harryvv | Ohh mabey thay are out sailing who knows where thay may be :) |
| 20:32.19 | PyroSteve | i have other DID's that im using for incoming calls |
| 20:32.42 | PyroSteve | not the BV number that im paying for |
| 20:33.28 | PyroSteve | If they simply just look at the matter in the way that If thier customers have others numbers that are used |
| 20:33.29 | Nebukadneza | hm - where do i get the chan_capi stuff from - just searched google and found .., nothing |
| 20:33.31 | PyroSteve | for incoming calls |
| 20:33.49 | PyroSteve | and those numbers should up on the caller id of the people called |
| 20:34.16 | PyroSteve | then that means I will be using there service even less |
| 20:34.31 | PyroSteve | which is in thier favor |
| 20:35.03 | PyroSteve | I pay them 30.00 bucks a month, and I hardly have incoming calls |
| 20:35.18 | PyroSteve | and use them for mostly outgoing |
| 20:35.24 | PyroSteve | thats better for them |
| 20:35.50 | PyroSteve | more open channels for other customers |
| 20:36.12 | PyroSteve | Do I hear an "AMEN" ? |
| 20:36.22 | PyroSteve | from my fellow asterisk users ? |
| 20:37.16 | Nebukadneza | http://rafb.net/paste/results/yh5R7p53.html got anyone a idea how to fix this? |
| 20:37.45 | bkw_ | PyroSteve, how is that better for them? |
| 20:38.00 | bkw_ | PyroSteve, you don't think in money do you |
| 20:39.00 | PyroSteve | Well ... It just seems if Im willing to have most of my incoming calls get routed elsewhere |
| 20:39.06 | PyroSteve | than thats better |
| 20:39.06 | ctooley | PyroSteve, They aren't required to let you set your own callerid and since they are presenting it as a home phone service it's not in their best interest to do that. |
| 20:39.25 | denvermark1234 | ctooley - you still around, i have more info, I found a listserv post that made me look for RTF error messages in the console (verbose=3) and I found them - http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2003-October/024095.html |
| 20:39.27 | bkw_ | no its not better really |
| 20:39.29 | PyroSteve | ctooley: But Im paying for thier Bussiness Plan !! |
| 20:39.33 | bkw_ | so |
| 20:39.34 | bkw_ | still |
| 20:39.40 | bkw_ | they aren't required to let you set it |
| 20:39.44 | bkw_ | if you wanna set it get your own PRI |
| 20:39.47 | PyroSteve | well I know |
| 20:39.55 | PyroSteve | they aren't required |
| 20:39.58 | PyroSteve | but others do |
| 20:40.05 | PyroSteve | thier competiors |
| 20:40.06 | ctooley | denvermark1234, then I unfortunately don't know how to fix that. |
| 20:40.18 | bkw_ | not on unlimited plans |
| 20:40.19 | bkw_ | they don't |
| 20:40.30 | bkw_ | all competitors are per min billing |
| 20:40.38 | ctooley | PyroSteve, No, their competitors aren't. the people they compete with don't do that. The people you are discussing are in a different business market. |
| 20:40.48 | bkw_ | yep |
| 20:40.52 | PyroSteve | ahh ok |
| 20:40.57 | Nebukadneza | hm ... noone a idea how i can get chan_capi to compile? |
| 20:41.10 | bkw_ | nobody uses chan_capi |
| 20:41.25 | Nebukadneza | hm |
| 20:41.27 | ctooley | Nebukadneza, sorry I haven't use ISDN for a decade |
| 20:41.36 | bkw_ | well its euro stuff |
| 20:41.38 | Nebukadneza | any other way to to "phone" over a avm fritz! card? |
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| 20:41.45 | PyroSteve | but doesn't the fact that im using only have the service make it in thier favor ? |
| 20:41.59 | PyroSteve | meaning mostly outgoing calls |
| 20:42.00 | ctooley | PyroSteve, nope, it's just minutes to them |
| 20:42.16 | Nebukadneza | puuh |
| 20:42.19 | Nebukadneza | -.- |
| 20:42.25 | ctooley | PyroSteve, makes no difference which "direction" the call goes there's traffic on the line. |
| 20:42.44 | bkw_ | PyroSteve, no diff. |
| 20:42.47 | bkw_ | like ctooley said |
| 20:42.54 | PyroSteve | ctooley: Ok, So if I have 100 calls a month |
| 20:42.54 | bkw_ | your logic in that thinking is flawed |
| 20:43.02 | ctooley | they've still got pay for the traffice whether it's inbound or out. |
| 20:43.03 | PyroSteve | and say half of that are incoming |
| 20:43.12 | bkw_ | it makes no diff |
| 20:43.18 | ctooley | The "free" inbound for Voicepulse Connect! is a loss leader. |
| 20:43.36 | Nebukadneza | argh damned |
| 20:44.32 | PyroSteve | Ok .. So if its just minutes to them |
| 20:44.35 | ctooley | They charge 2.9 cents a minute because it costs them .8 cents per minute for the inbound and .8 for the outbound (or something like that) and they figure they'll have 2 times as much inbound as outbound. or some kind of math like that. |
| 20:44.38 | CoaxD | ctooley: Not really |
| 20:45.07 | CoaxD | ctooley: The way telco stuff works, inbound calls does indeed cost them zilch. The screwy way pstn works, they're actually getting paid to terminate the incoming call |
| 20:45.10 | ctooley | That and the outrageously high DID cost is there to cover that difference. |
| 20:45.38 | CoaxD | whether or not they're getting a profit on it or still taking a loss, though, i am not sure |
| 20:45.45 | ctooley | CoaxD, Well, maybe in your messed up LATA but that sure ain't the way it works in my neck of the woods. If I want to terminate on SBC I pay for it |
| 20:46.31 | CoaxD | ctooley: Hmm. I dunno. this is what i was told. it may be, however, incorrect |
| 20:46.49 | ctooley | terminate, originate, look at them funny, it don't matter, there's a cost involved, per minute, per month loop charges, and per mile wire charges. |
| 20:47.10 | denvermark1234 | ctooley - it turns out I get the same RTP bad checksum errors on a perfect call, so its not those errors |
| 20:47.11 | CoaxD | ctooley: Gawd, isn't THAT the truth |
| 20:47.21 | PyroSteve | ctooley: So If I call you and I talk to you for 10 minutes .... then you say .. ok Steve, let me call you back on that matter |
| 20:47.26 | PyroSteve | and you call me back ... |
| 20:47.36 | PyroSteve | and we talk for another 10 minuts |
| 20:47.45 | PyroSteve | thats 20 minutes total useage |
| 20:47.58 | CoaxD | pyrosteve: yeah, and you each pay for 10 minutes of it |
| 20:48.13 | PyroSteve | but BV only had 10 minutes of voice through thier network |
| 20:48.16 | ctooley | my voip connection got 20 minutes of billing and your voip connection got 20 minutes of billing |
| 20:48.54 | PyroSteve | ok. pretend you're not on a voip connection |
| 20:49.04 | ctooley | no the providers that get charged that might change depending on how your configuration is, but it's the same either way, someone's paying for all 40 minutes |
| 20:49.34 | PyroSteve | because my argument has nothing to do with other providers are paying |
| 20:49.36 | PyroSteve | just mine |
| 20:49.42 | ctooley | ok, same thing, someone, somewhere is paying for it. What usually happens is, the person making the outbound call pays double rate for the outbound. |
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| 20:50.48 | PyroSteve | But Im only getting billed a fixed rate |
| 20:50.53 | ctooley | so instead of me paying for 10 minutes inbound traffic and 10 minutes outbound at .8 cents per minute (16 cents), I get charged for 10 minutes of outbound at 1.6 cents per minute (16 cents) |
| 20:51.07 | Trionnis | has anyone ever seen broadvoice trigger re-registrations like every 15 seconds? |
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| 20:51.11 | ctooley | PyroSteve, because they have made a calculation on average usage |
| 20:51.33 | PyroSteve | But thats not a valid point because im only getting billed a fixed rate |
| 20:51.54 | CoaxD | pyrosteve: I think his point is that your "fixed rate" already includes the charge |
| 20:52.20 | CoaxD | pyrosteve: But i dunno, man, i'm with you on that one. I think he's blowing smoke. *lol* |
| 20:52.35 | Sedorox | does 1.0.3 and 1.0.5 have difference in the ilbc codec to allow them not to work? |
| 20:52.36 | PyroSteve | But it doesn't matter, thats less expense for the provider if the service isn't used |
| 20:52.41 | ctooley | PyroSteve, my point is that your fixed rate is a business risk that they take on providing simplified billing. |
| 20:53.02 | PyroSteve | Ok let use a simpler exampler |
| 20:53.17 | Trionnis | bueller?....... bueller?.......... |
| 20:53.43 | ctooley | PyroSteve, why would I provide you with a simple method of using my competitor's service insetad of mine. |
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| 20:54.25 | PyroSteve | s/east/eats |
| 20:54.42 | PyroSteve | so ctooley only make 10 dollars profit |
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| 20:55.23 | PyroSteve | but if I decide to get half the ingredients from somewere else |
| 20:55.48 | PyroSteve | thats less expense ctooley has on my 40.00 dollars a month |
| 20:56.13 | PyroSteve | so now ctooley makes 25 dollars a month |
| 20:56.17 | PyroSteve | instead of 10 |
| 20:56.49 | PyroSteve | becuase someone gave me bread and ketchup |
| 20:56.59 | PyroSteve | so all i needed from ctooley is meat |
| 20:57.02 | PyroSteve | or something ... :) |
| 20:58.56 | ctooley | PyroSteve, and soon the person that's giving bread and ketchup starts to give you meat for $15. Now you say, "Hey, what do I need ctooley for?" and stop paying me the $40. So for 3 months of $25/month I lose the stable $10/month I was making and in less than 8 months I'm out of business |
| 21:00.17 | ctooley | And if you don't think it works just like that on a regular basis, why are you not happy with your analog service from your phone company. |
| 21:01.17 | PyroSteve | Hmmm... Good point |
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| 21:02.02 | fearnor | inbound calls are *not* free. |
| 21:02.12 | fearnor | they are not expensive but they are not free |
| 21:02.20 | fearnor | IMT trunks are not free |
| 21:02.27 | fearnor | switch ports are not free |
| 21:02.33 | ctooley | wives are not free. |
| 21:02.38 | fearnor | no shit |
| 21:02.52 | PyroSteve | meat,ketchup, and bread is not free |
| 21:03.14 | PyroSteve | ahhh that was lame ! |
| 21:03.41 | Trionnis | broadvoice is re-registering like every 15 or so seconds... anyone around that can shed some insight on that? |
| 21:03.44 | Sedorox | when I have... mailbox=2001@default... in sip.conf for a phone.. is there a way that can use a remote asterisk server's voicemail and not the local? |
| 21:04.03 | Nebukadneza | erghs - whats this: "WARNING[17153]: loader.c:509 load_modules: Loading module chan_capi.so failed!" |
| 21:04.08 | Nebukadneza | becaus this: |
| 21:04.12 | spackle | Trionnis, what kind of connection are you on? |
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| 21:04.23 | Trionnis | the * server? |
| 21:04.31 | Nebukadneza | "chan_capi.c:2686 load_module: CAPI not installed!" and "chan_capi.c:2862 unload_module: Unable to unregister from CAPI!" |
| 21:04.38 | Nebukadneza | any idea what i could do? |
| 21:04.44 | spackle | Trionnis, no the bandwidth, T1, DSL, etc? |
| 21:05.05 | Trionnis | 100mbit |
| 21:05.10 | Trionnis | Savvis DC in dallas |
| 21:05.17 | Trionnis | using the chicago proxy |
| 21:05.35 | ctooley | PyroSteve, so you see, the reason that Broadvoice won't let you do it is that it doesn't make sense in their business model. Voicepulse Connect! will because basically you're prepaying for minutes at a rate high enough that they always cover their costs. The DID charge alone pays for the number and about 500 minutes a month in inbound, maybe more. |
| 21:05.52 | spackle | Trionnis, so you eliminated the network and you are down to an Asterisk or Broadvoice issue? |
| 21:06.07 | Trionnis | I'm much further than that |
| 21:06.10 | ctooley | Broadvoice is a more traditional phone service business model. But this should really be moved to asterisk-biz to discuss further. |
| 21:06.14 | Trionnis | and I'm thinking it's a BV problem |
| 21:06.18 | Trionnis | outbound works fine |
| 21:06.31 | ctooley | Trionnis, which version of asterisk are you running? |
| 21:06.33 | Trionnis | inbound to the main number works from my cell only |
| 21:06.36 | Trionnis | 1.0.5 |
| 21:06.48 | Trionnis | from vonage, I get a fast busy |
| 21:06.55 | ctooley | Anyone know if 1.0.5 has the SIP registration patch for Broadvoice? |
| 21:07.14 | Trionnis | another guy who was helping earlier wasn't able to call it from his BV line or his cell |
| 21:07.16 | \Grooby\ | ctooley yes |
| 21:07.18 | ctooley | There was a specific bug about that about 2-3 months back and Broadvoice contracted to have it fixed. |
| 21:07.31 | Trionnis | 1 other friend can call it from his at&t cell |
| 21:07.34 | Trionnis | now |
| 21:07.34 | ctooley | \Grooby\, bummer, was hoping it was that easy. |
| 21:07.39 | Trionnis | here's the strange part |
| 21:07.44 | \Grooby\ | bummer? |
| 21:07.57 | Trionnis | if I call the addon toll free number, it works |
| 21:08.03 | Trionnis | from vonage |
| 21:08.23 | ctooley | \Grooby\, he's having problems with his Broadvoice registration and he's running 1.0.5. If the patch wasn't included the answer would be easy, now I have to go figure something else out. :) |
| 21:08.31 | Trionnis | the thing I'm wondering about tho, is that it's re-registering roughly every 15 second |
| 21:08.38 | \Grooby\ | hahahaha |
| 21:08.41 | \Grooby\ | what's his problem? |
| 21:08.51 | ctooley | Trionnis, can you pastebin.com your sip.conf, hiding your secrets |
| 21:08.51 | \Grooby\ | don't follow the instruction from the BV website |
| 21:08.53 | \Grooby\ | cause it's out of date |
| 21:09.06 | Trionnis | lemme find the link, did that earlier |
| 21:09.19 | Trionnis | http://pastebin.ca/6486 |
| 21:09.24 | ctooley | This re-registration thing sounds really familiar |
| 21:09.31 | Trionnis | actually, hang on |
| 21:09.35 | Trionnis | that's not the way it is now |
| 21:09.37 | Trionnis | 1 second |
| 21:10.16 | Trionnis | http://pastebin.ca/6490 |
| 21:10.18 | Trionnis | there |
| 21:10.29 | Trionnis | and I've got sip.bv.com set to the allowed ip |
| 21:10.36 | Trionnis | in /etc/hosts |
| 21:11.21 | ctooley | I don't use friend... |
| 21:11.43 | Trionnis | peer? |
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| 21:12.39 | ctooley | Trionnis, and user |
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| 21:12.58 | Trionnis | I'm really thinking this is a problem elsewhere... since so far only cingular and at&t cell phones seem to be able to call the main number |
| 21:13.05 | Trionnis | :( |
| 21:13.23 | ctooley | Your section is on top my "friend" equivalent is on bottom: http://pastebin.ca/6491 |
| 21:13.58 | ctooley | Trionnis, what is your extension? |
| 21:14.14 | Trionnis | from where? |
| 21:14.21 | Trionnis | in my menu? |
| 21:14.24 | ctooley | yeah |
| 21:14.26 | Trionnis | 2 |
| 21:19.00 | Trionnis | er |
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| 21:22.52 | PyroSteve | ctooley: Yes, You are right. I undertstand now.... |
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| 21:23.16 | PyroSteve | ... But they didn't say no... I just can't get a yes or no answer |
| 21:24.21 | PyroSteve | VoicePulse connect does advertise that they are an Origination / Termination service provider |
| 21:25.05 | PyroSteve | ctooley: thanks for argument though |
| 21:27.01 | denvermark1234 | im still trying to figure out why festival over my cable modem sucks (dropped words) but its good in my internal network. Ive changed my codec to ulaw and checked the latency (http://pastebin.ca/6492) Ive considered festival modifications but since it works so well locally I really think its a network or DID provider issue. Anyone have a new idea for me? |
| 21:27.30 | Trionnis | ctooley: changed to the dca proxy, same problem, although the refresh time is much better now |
| 21:27.51 | Trionnis | 3584 instead of 11 |
| 21:27.53 | Trionnis | lol |
| 21:29.04 | ctooley | PyroSteve, they are an Origination/Termination service provider, but they do it as a wholesale model, whereas Voicepulse standard does it on a retail model. |
| 21:29.18 | ctooley | Trionnis, I couldn't get the dns server to tell me the SRV records either |
| 21:29.25 | ctooley | I know dca, chi and lax |
| 21:29.53 | Trionnis | well, dca was only 35ms |
| 21:29.57 | Trionnis | so I changed to it |
| 21:30.00 | ctooley | Trionnis, proxy.mia.broadvoice.com works too |
| 21:30.01 | Trionnis | same thing tho :( |
| 21:30.06 | Trionnis | mia? |
| 21:30.07 | ctooley | Trionnis, bummer |
| 21:30.09 | Trionnis | michigan? |
| 21:30.09 | ctooley | Miami |
| 21:30.11 | Trionnis | ah |
| 21:30.22 | Trionnis | well, outbound is still ok |
| 21:30.35 | Trionnis | I'm really starting to think it's Vonage being retarded |
| 21:30.55 | Trionnis | it's not exactly a *rare* occurance |
| 21:30.57 | Trionnis | =| |
| 21:32.18 | PyroSteve | somethimes I would think it would be neat to have somehwere to post problems that I solved and was assisted in solving |
| 21:32.31 | ctooley | I think dca, chi, lax, and mia are all of them |
| 21:32.43 | Trionnis | BV => vonage is ok as well |
| 21:32.54 | ctooley | PyroSteve, you mean like a wiki or something for troubleshooting? |
| 21:33.01 | PyroSteve | yeah |
| 21:33.12 | PyroSteve | for example I will have an issue |
| 21:33.14 | ctooley | PyroSteve, you mean like something you post information on |
| 21:33.24 | PyroSteve | and I search the mailing list archives |
| 21:33.25 | ctooley | PyroSteve, like voip-info.org? |
| 21:33.39 | ctooley | PyroSteve, :) |
| 21:33.41 | PyroSteve | and only find people with the same problem, but no answer |
| 21:33.44 | PMantis | Trionnis, I had massive issues with Broadvoice, until a BV programmer that was in this channel told me how to fix it. |
| 21:33.52 | Trionnis | :( |
| 21:34.21 | Trionnis | well, so far, everything works except Vonage => BV |
| 21:34.22 | PMantis | Trionnis, The only secret was to not use CVS, and compile 1.0.5... it's been absolutely rock solid for a few weeks now. |
| 21:34.33 | Trionnis | I'm using 1.0.5 |
| 21:34.35 | PyroSteve | well maybe someone more focused on "I had this problem, and here is the answer |
| 21:34.41 | PMantis | Trionnis, my friend has vonage, and it works for us. |
| 21:34.49 | PyroSteve | i dont see voip-info.org just as that |
| 21:34.53 | CoaxD | pyrosteve: Thats actually not a bad idea. Its a 'knowledgebase'. :) |
| 21:35.10 | PyroSteve | yeah !! Knowledge base ! thats the word !! |
| 21:35.14 | CoaxD | pyrosteve: And while they do exist for asterisk, there doesnt seem to be a 'be all end all' of them |
| 21:35.25 | CoaxD | pyrosteve: Heh :) |
| 21:35.45 | Trionnis | hahahahahah.... wtf? |
| 21:36.00 | PyroSteve | ok well maybe no so much the idea of having a such a solution |
| 21:36.08 | Trionnis | Customers in the following areas: Chicago - area codes 219, 312, 630, 708, 773, 815, 847; |
| 21:36.15 | CoaxD | pyrosteve: What is your native language? |
| 21:36.23 | Trionnis | -snip-- |
| 21:36.25 | Trionnis | may experience problems with inbound fast busies and caller-id due to a local carrier issue. |
| 21:36.35 | Trionnis | but in my case, it's the other way around |
| 21:36.47 | ctooley | Trionnis, that's great |
| 21:36.50 | PyroSteve | but more so the involvment of posting the problems with solutions |
| 21:36.52 | Trionnis | inbound for me is fine, outbound seems to be having problems |
| 21:37.03 | CoaxD | pyrosteve: Yeah, absolutely. |
| 21:37.08 | PyroSteve | just like how spam filters work |
| 21:37.09 | CoaxD | pyrosteve: Its a great idea. |
| 21:37.22 | PMantis | Trionnis, I wish I had a better suggestion for you. when I "downgraded" to 1.0.5, everything just started working perfectly. |
| 21:37.25 | PyroSteve | Cloudmark and others are becoming better because on user input |
| 21:37.34 | ctooley | Trionnis, I spent 2 hours trying to solve a VP problem one day before they fessed up and said that their upstream provider was down. |
| 21:37.43 | CoaxD | pyrosteve: WEll, the whole point of razor2 is user input that is filtered on a "reliability" factor |
| 21:38.00 | Trionnis | not suprising really |
| 21:38.02 | PyroSteve | right |
| 21:38.18 | PyroSteve | Is that was cloudmark uses ? Razor ? |
| 21:38.19 | Trionnis | I'll just be glad when my sipura shows up so I can dump vonage for good |
| 21:38.34 | Trionnis | they've been pretty problematic for the last ~ 3 months |
| 21:38.35 | Trionnis | :( |
| 21:39.08 | CoaxD | pyrosteve: Yeah |
| 21:39.11 | ctooley | Trionnis, you were at the datacenter when we talked? |
| 21:39.17 | Trionnis | uh |
| 21:39.18 | Trionnis | no |
| 21:39.19 | CoaxD | pyrosteve: The guy who started Razor (and razorv2) started cloudmark |
| 21:39.24 | PyroSteve | ohhhh |
| 21:39.26 | PyroSteve | cool |
| 21:39.28 | ctooley | Trionnis, oh, I thought you said that. |
| 21:39.34 | Trionnis | the * server is there |
| 21:39.36 | Trionnis | I'm in IL |
| 21:39.38 | Trionnis | :) |
| 21:39.40 | ctooley | Trionnis, I just mis-understood |
| 21:39.49 | PyroSteve | man, am i behind |
| 21:39.49 | PyroSteve | ! |
| 21:39.50 | ctooley | Trionnis, aha. |
| 21:39.50 | Trionnis | okie |
| 21:39.52 | Trionnis | :) |
| 21:42.41 | PyroSteve | who was asking about the problem of thier analog phone ringing once every so often |
| 21:42.42 | PyroSteve | ? |
| 21:42.51 | Trionnis | anyone with a vonage line willing to test something for me? |
| 21:42.56 | Trionnis | :) |
| 21:44.01 | CoaxD | no. never. not a chance. blah. |
| 21:44.30 | Trionnis | yeah |
| 21:44.31 | CoaxD | (If only i had a vonage line. heh. Then i could get a local service number! But i refuse to use vonage on the grounds that they are not open to asterisk users) |
| 21:44.35 | Trionnis | I learned my lesson |
| 21:44.56 | Trionnis | went with them a while back, then foolishly believed them when they told me I couldn't port my numbers |
| 21:45.02 | Sedorox | quick Q... on a goto statement.. can I so goto(<context>) and will it pick up the first thing there? or so I need to put <context>,s,1? |
| 21:45.08 | Trionnis | I've learned a lot since then :) |
| 21:45.41 | CoaxD | Goto(blah,1,1) |
| 21:45.44 | Trionnis | now I'm waiting on a sipura 2000 to get here so I can port my numbers, and get rid of 'em |
| 21:45.54 | Sedorox | so you have to include the extention and number? |
| 21:45.58 | CoaxD | Trionnis: Yeah, understood |
| 21:46.03 | Sedorox | er prioity.. whatever it is... |
| 21:46.33 | CoaxD | i should order another sip2k |
| 21:46.50 | CoaxD | i need one for home |
| 21:46.51 | Sedorox | I should just order one.. no money tho :-/ |
| 21:46.59 | CoaxD | sadorox: Understood. same. heh |
| 21:48.22 | Sedorox | I'm hoping when I get this US50/Canada toll free number from FreeWorldTel, that I can talk my mom into voip.. but we'll need a sipura at that point... |
| 21:49.49 | denvermark1234 | anyone know if the wiki tip about festival/asterisk and using text2wave instead of the Asterisk Festival command should have any impact on external calls as opposed to internal calls (relative to network), I dont think it would matter but worth asking (http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+Festival) |
| 21:50.20 | CoaxD | sedorox: Yeah, having a real phone is useful |
| 21:50.46 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 21:50.47 | CoaxD | i have a sipura 2000 at work, but none at home |
| 21:50.51 | Sedorox | yea |
| 21:51.04 | Sedorox | well.. trying to talk her into VOIP.. as it'll save us like $50/month... |
| 21:51.08 | moonwick | festival sounds yucky. |
| 21:51.09 | Sedorox | so... |
| 21:51.09 | CoaxD | and since i'm going to start taking some work calls at home, a sip2k is useful |
| 21:51.13 | denvermark1234 | Ill pay pal someone 5 bucks if they help me figure out my festival prob, this is driving me crazy, its not much but maybe someone is interested? |
| 21:51.16 | Sedorox | yup |
| 21:51.38 | Sedorox | dunno denvermark1234 |
| 21:52.07 | CoaxD | denver: NOW yer talkin! (not that i've used festival. so i cant help you, unfortunately) |
| 21:52.45 | denvermark1234 | network related, is it bad if every time i tracert my did provider the 2nd hop times out |
| 21:52.51 | Trionnis | I dunno what it is even |
| 21:52.59 | Trionnis | ;) |
| 21:53.10 | CoaxD | trionnis: festival == a fake voice talking |
| 21:53.14 | denvermark1234 | for 5 bucks you could learn :) |
| 21:53.16 | Trionnis | o |
| 21:53.21 | Trionnis | hahah |
| 21:53.25 | denvermark1234 | text to speech |
| 21:53.28 | Trionnis | ok |
| 21:54.10 | Trionnis | ok, here's your help |
| 21:54.15 | Trionnis | RTFM!!11!!eleven |
| 21:54.30 | Trionnis | best I can do :) |
| 21:54.57 | denvermark1234 | the problem could be did related and not have to do with festival at all ... |
| 21:55.18 | denvermark1234 | it might just be manifesting itself for me in festival since thats what im using that "channel" for |
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| 21:55.59 | denvermark1234 | does anyone hear use sixtel? |
| 21:56.31 | roamer323 | met someone yesterday who did - mostly for UK calls - he loved it. |
| 21:56.46 | denvermark1234 | from the us to uk? |
| 21:56.56 | roamer323 | from his ATA to UK :-) |
| 21:58.41 | `Sauron | Man, I forget how sucky it is to think through the best way to implement a network service. |
| 22:01.40 | denvermark1234 | can someone tell me if i should post my question to asterisk-dev or user (the festival/network problem) |
| 22:03.44 | `Sauron | try user first, if nothing after a while, try dev |
| 22:04.02 | fearnor | NO |
| 22:04.16 | fearnor | if its not a -dev question, do not post to -dev |
| 22:04.27 | fearnor | because rude people like me will tell you to bugger off anyway. |
| 22:04.55 | `Sauron | Well, then, Mr. -dev - why don't you tell denvermark whether his question is for -dev or for -user. |
| 22:04.56 | fearnor | if you don't have a code to offer, and if you didn't try to read through the code to understand, it isn't a -dev issue |
| 22:05.04 | fearnor | its definitely -user |
| 22:05.35 | denvermark1234 | ill post to user ... |
| 22:08.53 | denvermark1234 | bye |
| 22:09.08 | `Sauron | I just hope y'all dev people aren't as big assholes as the openradius folts |
| 22:09.09 | `Sauron | folks |
| 22:09.31 | `Sauron | s/openradius/freeradius |
| 22:09.39 | `Sauron | the openradius guy is actually really cool |
| 22:09.42 | `Sauron | Blah, whatever. |
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| 22:14.51 | mcukstorm | hi, does anyone know how i can speed up asterisks' reactions, if a call is recieved inbound on an fxo port and the caller hangs up it takes asterisk 3-4 rings before it notices |
| 22:15.28 | moonwick | feed it a large mocha latte. |
| 22:15.34 | mcukstorm | :P |
| 22:19.00 | mcukstorm | its not as if the machine is slow, its an XP2000 with 1gb of ram with load averages of 0.08,0.06,0.02 |
| 22:19.24 | mcukstorm | ~ |
| 22:19.44 | ctooley | mcukstorm, that's not the problem. The driver isn't detecting hangup on the other end. With analog lines you don't always get the indication right away that the other end isn't there. |
| 22:20.48 | mcukstorm | well normal phones stop ringing almost as soon as the caller terminates the call |
| 22:20.50 | ctooley | For instance, call someone from a land line and have them hang up. Your phone doesn't hangup for you automatically like a cell phone does. the connection is analog not digital and the signalling didn't even used to be there at all. Now the loop drop signalling is less than perfect |
| 22:21.12 | bkw_ | mcukstorm, you're using an analog interface? |
| 22:21.20 | Strom_TM | mcukstorm, which country are you in? |
| 22:21.21 | mcukstorm | yes |
| 22:21.22 | ctooley | mcukstorm, that's because the ring tone is being being delivered in a completely different way |
| 22:21.23 | mcukstorm | uk |
| 22:21.30 | bkw_ | live with it |
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| 22:21.44 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 22:21.51 | ctooley | :) you're so nice to people Brian. |
| 22:22.05 | Strom_TM | ``It's not a VHS tape, it's an Apple Newton!" |
| 22:22.34 | mcukstorm | i was under the impression that asterisk was quite mature, but it seems to have alot of short fallings, good job its only a dev system |
| 22:22.38 | ctooley | Strom_TM, then take the stupid thing out of the VHS rewinder |
| 22:23.03 | ctooley | mcukstorm, what hardware are you usign? |
| 22:23.16 | mcukstorm | tdm400p with the fxo module added |
| 22:23.31 | Strom_TM | mcukstorm, an inherent problem with an analog telephone line is not a problem with asterisk :) |
| 22:23.45 | ctooley | then send Digium an email and ask |
| 22:24.54 | mcukstorm | Strom_TM: ok so the telephony provider is probably part of the prob, but if regular phones work ok it must be possible to detect these things, and i wont even mention caller id |
| 22:25.03 | mcukstorm | ctooley, thanks will mail them monday |
| 22:25.13 | ctooley | NEXT!!! |
| 22:25.13 | Strom_TM | mcukstorm, a regular phone is a dumb device |
| 22:25.29 | mcukstorm | hmm, at least it works |
| 22:26.02 | Strom_TM | yes, but you're talking about a 1950s rethinking of an 1880s technology :) |
| 22:26.08 | ctooley | mcukstorm, then my suggestion to you is to unplug your Asterisk machine, turn off the computer, plug in your analog phone and get back to watching the BBC |
| 22:26.13 | __Sparks_ | If I make a call out via my SIP provider (VOIPTalk) is there a way to change the caller ID? |
| 22:26.21 | Strom_TM | also, toss out the touchtone phone |
| 22:26.25 | Strom_TM | rotary only for you :) |
| 22:27.12 | Strom_TM | ctooley, I have a dozen |
| 22:27.21 | Trionnis | thanks for the help all |
| 22:27.25 | Trionnis | g'night |
| 22:27.50 | ctooley | Strom_TM, are the large, black and rotary? |
| 22:28.19 | Strom_TM | the ones from 1948 and 1953 are :) |
| 22:29.04 | Strom_TM | ive also got a red rotary set mf'd in 1977, a beige rotary from 1968, and the rest are touchtone sets from 1976-1983 |
| 22:29.07 | ctooley | Ma Bell provided phones: The original Telecommunications System/Boat Anchor/Intrudor Beating Systems |
| 22:29.23 | Strom_TM | yes, and they still work after you do all that :) |
| 22:29.26 | ctooley | yep |
| 22:29.52 | Strom_TM | http://stromcarlson.com/misc/500.gif drawing I made of the 1968 set :) |
| 22:30.31 | ctooley | Ahhh mechanical systems, I often think I missed my time by a couple centuries |
| 22:30.52 | Strom_TM | ctooley, ever been to www.phonetrips.com? |
| 22:31.38 | mcukstorm | think it tends to happen when you work so much with computerised systems, you learn to appreciate the reliabilty and consistency of mechanical systems |
| 22:32.06 | ctooley | Strom_TM, Ours were all wall mounted jobs, the kind that could only be removed by disassembling part of the wall they were mounted to. |
| 22:32.50 | Strom_TM | no, the bell system wallmount phones are screwed to the wall. just remove the plastic cover and remove the screws and they come right off the wall |
| 22:32.51 | ctooley | mcukstorm, mechanical reliability, that's funny. |
| 22:33.40 | ctooley | Strom_TM, Yeah but everyone painted the wall with them still in place and by the time the 32 coat of paint was on them, the plaster was coming with the phone. |
| 22:34.48 | Strom_TM | http://stromcarlson.com/misc/P5300078.JPG |
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| 22:35.55 | ctooley | :) I modified our handset on one of them to optionally pipe the audio through the speakers on our television for Speakerphone type functionality. It sounded absolutely horrible. |
| 22:36.12 | ctooley | but it was REALLY loud after I got done amplifying it. |
| 22:36.26 | Strom_TM | heh |
| 22:36.33 | Strom_TM | I modified a handset too |
| 22:36.43 | Strom_TM | http://stromcarlson.com/misc/we_mobile.jpg |
| 22:36.44 | ctooley | That's definitely a telco provided phone with the Area code and prefix pre-printed on the device. |
| 22:37.22 | Strom_TM | ctooley, you didn't have much of a choice before the late 70s :) |
| 22:37.24 | ctooley | that's great, where can I get one of those. I can just see using that at dinner with the wife. |
| 22:37.31 | Strom_TM | ctooley, I made that |
| 22:37.55 | Strom_TM | Western Electric G3 handset + 2.5mm plug |
| 22:37.55 | ctooley | I can tell. I gotta find a red one |
| 22:38.40 | ctooley | All it needs is a giant shoulder rest for comfort |
| 22:38.46 | Strom_TM | heh |
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| 22:46.33 | spackle | anybody here using oh323 without a gatekeeper? |
| 22:47.50 | *** part/#asterisk ctooley ([U2FsdGVkX@199.89.146.18) |
| 22:48.42 | cjk | hi, i remember a powerpoint asterisk presentation. anyone remember where to get it? |
| 22:49.45 | spackle | cjk, technical or management speak/marketing? |
| 22:50.12 | cjk | ups i forgot the keyword. it was about benchmarking |
| 22:50.36 | spackle | hmmm, no. |
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| 23:04.06 | __Sparks_ | Are there any SIP providers that provide a UK geographical number, and allow free access to 0800 numbers. besides SipGate? |
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| 23:19.30 | harryvv | Is it possible to have two extensions to use the same voicemail box? |
| 23:20.25 | niZon | yes |
| 23:22.01 | *** join/#asterisk znoG (gs@200.115.216.109) |
| 23:23.37 | harryvv | niZon there is probebly a way to do it. Getting message of Unable to register extension '151', priority 1 in 'users', already in use |
| 23:23.55 | harryvv | When all three soft/hard phones are using same vm box. |
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| 23:30.11 | __Sparks_ | Are there any SIP providers that provide a UK geographical number, and allow free access to 0800 numbers. besides SipGate? |
| 23:33.51 | Goshen | Sparks: check this out...http://www.voipuser.org/ |
| 23:34.05 | Goshen | they give a uk number for free, give outbound calls for free |
| 23:34.08 | Goshen | community supported |
| 23:34.22 | terrahome | halo |
| 23:34.47 | Goshen | yea, that was a good game ;) |
| 23:45.14 | znoG | Goshen: woah, cool project. How exactly do they crank up SIP minutes?? |
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| 23:48.58 | Goshen | lol, Broadvoice has Steven Tyler Aerosmith as a spokesperson |
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| 23:49.20 | Goshen | Znog: they sell incoming minutes of some sort |
| 23:49.36 | znoG | Goshen: oh, so inbound calls aren't free? |
| 23:50.07 | Goshen | I don't know...I don't have much use for a inbound UK number :) |
| 23:50.49 | Goshen | I haven't used it much, just made a free call to Canada for fun |
| 23:51.02 | Goshen | I am configuring it for my * server right now |
| 23:51.15 | znoG | neither have I but I have no UK friends.. would be good to make a few.. :) |
| 23:51.24 | znoG | Goshen: how's the call quality? |
| 23:51.47 | znoG | Goshen: they don't seem to list countries you can make calls to, do they? |
| 23:52.11 | Goshen | quality was fine, we were on soft phones so it was hard to tell |
| 23:52.23 | Goshen | you can call any country that costs less then 5 cents I beleive |
| 23:52.33 | Goshen | so they don't list them, due to changing rates |
| 23:53.09 | znoG | i'm gonna give it a shot, why not |
| 23:53.23 | ariel_ | Someone from the UK can you tell me if these numbers are all Premium rate or local rate in the UK Please. 0845 0844 0871 0870 07031 |
| 23:55.36 | ariel_ | they make there minutes and money with the numbers in the UK all calls are charged some more then others. |
| 23:55.45 | Goshen | oh nice...voipuser has a stun server now |
| 23:55.50 | Goshen | I don't think they had one before |
| 23:56.44 | znoG | Goshen: so let me get this straight. I *have* to register for a UK number to get free outbound calling? |
| 23:56.49 | ariel_ | looks like the people in Washington state giving free numbers to FWD accounts. They make there money on the phone cost to that number. |
| 23:57.00 | Goshen | znoG: yup :) |
| 23:57.09 | znoG | Goshen: and i start paying only when i RECEIVE a call? |
| 23:57.18 | Goshen | ariel: I have had my Washington state number for over a year now :) |
| 23:57.40 | ariel_ | so have I but don't get much calls via it. |
| 23:57.41 | Goshen | znoG: I guess so, I never set up the incoming part |
| 23:58.29 | znoG | cool, i'm now "virtually" in the UK. :) |
| 23:58.39 | znoG | now, where are the instructions to setup outbound calling... |
| 23:58.59 | znoG | ahh here we go |
| 23:59.24 | Goshen | which is the proper syntax? |
| 23:59.35 | Goshen | register => USERID:PASSWORD@voipuser.org/448441234567 |
| 23:59.40 | znoG | yep |
| 23:59.43 | Goshen | or register=userid |
| 23:59.56 | Goshen | the register=userid seems to work |
