| 00:00.59 | kram | i didn't see your question |
| 00:01.41 | Landrocker | I needed to be able to have Dial fall through to an 'h' extension inside a macro, and I was wondering if patching the code to do that would have any nasty repercussions |
| 00:02.55 | atlantis_ | hi, i'm new to asterisk but would like to start a business selling asterisk solution (ie. sell preconfigure asterisk servers and necessary hardware phones, etc). Do i need to purchase license from Digium? Thanks. |
| 00:04.44 | kram | landrocker: it's not so easy... |
| 00:04.48 | kram | you can get "hangups" that are fake |
| 00:04.54 | kram | (e.g. AST_SOFTHANGUP_ASYNCGOTO) |
| 00:04.59 | Landrocker | ah ok |
| 00:05.06 | kram | you'd have to be careful of which ones you took |
| 00:05.19 | Landrocker | I was just checking for softhangup al la the extension handling code |
| 00:05.41 | budgester | atlantis, first thing to do would be to read and understand the GPL |
| 00:07.14 | atlantis_ | budgester, i wouldn't be changing the source but may be developing a new management GUI. I always got headaches understanding the GPL :( |
| 00:08.11 | Supaplex | GPL is cake |
| 00:08.33 | goatmilk | hot from the oven? |
| 00:09.39 | Supaplex | if you cook it that way, yeah |
| 00:09.59 | goatmilk | sweet. |
| 00:11.30 | budgester | in that case it depends how you want to license your management gui |
| 00:11.41 | budgester | if thats your value add |
| 00:13.13 | elriah | I'm using swift to do some text to speech with agi, is there a way to allow keypresses during agi script execution? I'd like to have the text right there in extensions.conf and now have to pre record everything. |
| 00:13.23 | elriah | now have = not have |
| 00:14.29 | budgester | The thing is from my point of view, if your running a business, your gonna be involved with all sorts of laws, contracts etc, and if you don't understand them someones gonna screw you over, so understand what your taking on regardless |
| 00:15.01 | budgester | and the GPL i.e the license that * is under, is just another contract |
| 00:15.29 | budgester | or pay a solicitor to look at it if your not happy with reading it yourself |
| 00:15.59 | elriah | Anyone? |
| 00:16.09 | atlantis_ | budgester, my understanding of GPL is that it is free to use and you need to contribute back the changes to the source code. |
| 00:16.27 | budgester | only if your distrubute them |
| 00:16.34 | atlantis_ | budgester, right. |
| 00:17.09 | budgester | what are you gonna write you inteface in ? if you don't mind me asking |
| 00:17.19 | Landrocker | the only gray area is whether or not your management gui will be tainted gpl or not |
| 00:18.55 | atlantis_ | budgester, i just started playing with Asterisk for a few days and haven't thought of how to write the GUI. But without a good GUI, it is difficult for customer to manage and to sell to them in the first place. |
| 00:19.43 | budgester | i mean if its php on a webserver, on the asterisk server, then anyone with shell access can read your code anyway |
| 00:19.51 | Darwin35 | ok we have bv and asterisk |
| 00:20.03 | elriah | I'm using swift to do some text to speech with agi, is there a way to allow keypresses during agi script execution? I'd like to have the text right there in extensions.conf and now have to pre record everything. |
| 00:20.29 | budgester | what sort of coding you done before atlantis ? |
| 00:21.32 | atlantis_ | budgester, JSP, servlet, windows/linux driver, some class-5 telecom switches. |
| 00:22.08 | atlantis_ | budgester, would be picking up on PHP today :) |
| 00:22.38 | budgester | so you know what your doing then, why not GPL your interface ? standing on the shoulders of giants and all that |
| 00:23.09 | budgester | then all the headaches go away :-) |
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| 00:24.10 | budgester | just because it's GPL'd doesn't mean you cant charge for it on a invoice :-) |
| 00:24.47 | niZon | has anyone here built a cisco power adaptor? |
| 00:25.07 | `Sauron | Why don't you buy one? |
| 00:25.11 | atlantis_ | budgester, i'm new to GPL stuff, so i don't know how to make $ out of it. My traditional thinking is still close |
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| 00:25.29 | shepherd | i'm sure the power adaptor is $100 of the $500 phone |
| 00:25.48 | djorange | hi i have a quick question about auto attendance anything i should read or look at before asking? |
| 00:26.05 | `Sauron | They're like $10 on ebay |
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| 00:26.29 | niZon | yeah but i don't like paying shipping :P |
| 00:27.36 | `Sauron | Whine whine whine. |
| 00:27.46 | mishehu | bitch moan |
| 00:27.48 | mishehu | bitch moan |
| 00:27.49 | `Sauron | Cheap bastard |
| 00:27.52 | djorange | okay my questions is: what audio format exact spec do i upload my recording in?? |
| 00:27.58 | Landrocker | atlantis_, basically, you only have to provide source to those who you distribute to - if you're using php then you're doing this anyway |
| 00:28.02 | mishehu | you can't be a cheap bastard with voip equipment |
| 00:28.10 | Landrocker | GPLing basically means they can freely modify and redistribute it |
| 00:28.22 | mishehu | GPL is a specific open source license |
| 00:28.37 | Landrocker | the idea behind making more money off it is providing support and/or developing extra features for money |
| 00:28.48 | mishehu | there are many open source licenses that may have many parts of them in common, but there are differences. |
| 00:29.08 | mishehu | and php can be bytecoded |
| 00:29.30 | mishehu | dan2: fxo *over* sip? |
| 00:29.30 | `Sauron | You could build it... |
| 00:29.31 | budgester | dan2 knows what it is to want then |
| 00:29.45 | mishehu | or an ata that has an fxo on it |
| 00:29.55 | `Sauron | spa3k |
| 00:30.12 | `Sauron | fxo and fxs |
| 00:30.13 | atlantis_ | GPL is about source code, but how about license for installing and selling to customer? Thanks people :) |
| 00:30.15 | dan2 | mishehu: I mean... an fxo accessible over sip |
| 00:30.21 | dan2 | `Sauron: spa3k can't do this |
| 00:30.54 | atlantis_ | mishehu, PHP bytecoded ... would take note. |
| 00:31.31 | `Sauron | dan2: Bummer. It's an FXO accessible through SIP |
| 00:31.42 | file[laptop] | dan2: sure it can |
| 00:31.42 | djorange | do i upload a gsm or a wav 8k file? |
| 00:31.53 | `Sauron | gsm |
| 00:31.58 | budgester | atlantis_ try reading this http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html |
| 00:32.26 | file[laptop] | dan2: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Sipura+3000 |
| 00:34.49 | PoWeRKiLL | Evening :) |
| 00:36.00 | atlantis_ | budgester, if Digium is sponsering asterisk project, would it be disadvantage for other people to sell asterisk without Digium benefiting from it? |
| 00:36.27 | dan2 | file[laptop]: thats a new one |
| 00:36.36 | dan2 | I could have sworn you couldn't access the fxo |
| 00:36.58 | file[laptop] | dan2: in the olden times there wasn't much info on it, but now that's it's been out for awhile... voila! |
| 00:37.02 | file[laptop] | exactly what you desire. |
| 00:37.07 | dan2 | well then |
| 00:37.10 | dan2 | time to buy a few |
| 00:37.30 | dan2 | file[laptop]: I'm having havoc with the digium cards in my mini-itx box, between irq conflicts and other things |
| 00:37.35 | dan2 | file[laptop]: sipuras work great tho |
| 00:37.48 | file[laptop] | dan2: sipuras rock, probably better echo cancellation too |
| 00:39.04 | budgester | atlantis_ you are allowed to sell * , i.e. install it on a PC, digium make there money by selling cards(hardware), support, consultation etc. and * is where it is now because digium used the GPL and other people have contributed to the project, helping digium created a better product to sell hardware for, and support, and consultation etc |
| 00:39.10 | dan2 | Supaplex: debian stable is rock solid, tell me when it crashes :) |
| 00:39.29 | elriah | Anyone here use swift? |
| 00:39.45 | Supaplex | well, I'm using 2.4, and now dhcp is working... go figure. |
| 00:39.48 | mishehu | dan2: what proc is in your mini-itx? |
| 00:39.55 | dan2 | budgester: digium will relicense asterisk for development of a pbx based on asterisk |
| 00:40.02 | dan2 | mishehu: lemme check |
| 00:40.14 | elriah | dan2: What's that mean? No longer GPL? |
| 00:40.19 | mishehu | cuz I saw one at fry's for $170 with the proc. |
| 00:40.23 | dan2 | elriah: propreitary licenxsing |
| 00:40.41 | atlantis_ | budgester, i guess i got to get use to the GPL style, thanks :) |
| 00:40.42 | mishehu | dual licensing method, similar to what mysql ab does |
| 00:40.45 | dan2 | mishehu: VIA Nehemiah |
| 00:40.47 | elriah | Ahh... |
| 00:40.51 | dan2 | mishehu: its the PD10000 I believe |
| 00:40.59 | `Sauron | 'cept, mysql sucks infinitely more than * |
| 00:41.03 | mishehu | dan2: how good is the performance on it? |
| 00:41.04 | budgester | lol |
| 00:41.12 | dan2 | mishehu: its fine, don't try using digium cards with it |
| 00:41.17 | PoWeRKiLL | someone have a solution for this problem http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-February/090020.html ? |
| 00:41.19 | dan2 | mishehu: we use it as a firewall |
| 00:41.29 | dan2 | mishehu: its got dual ethernet |
| 00:41.35 | mishehu | dan2: digium cards can be even a problem on a dual proc xeon 2.8ghz |
| 00:41.49 | mishehu | dan2: as I get PCI PERR# |
| 00:42.07 | Goshen | ok, so # is what you dial to transfer a call....how about placing a call on hold? |
| 00:42.42 | mishehu | dan2: if you have speex on the itx, I'd be curious to see what show translation recalc 5 is |
| 00:42.50 | mishehu | from g711ulaw to speex |
| 00:43.03 | dan2 | mishehu: its really raw pcm to speex |
| 00:43.14 | dan2 | mishehu: ulaw was written to run on a 386 in 1988 |
| 00:43.29 | mishehu | dan2: show translation recalc 5 |
| 00:43.34 | mishehu | on the asterisk cli |
| 00:43.48 | dan2 | mishehu: can't right now |
| 00:43.51 | mishehu | ah |
| 00:44.02 | atlantis_ | budgester, thanks for the help., it is a good start for me and have to make my breakfast |
| 00:44.15 | atlantis_ | budgester, bye :) |
| 00:44.20 | mishehu | shame. was considering using a mini-itx as a border device. |
| 00:44.51 | dan2 | mishehu: mini-itx is quite nice, and I've even gotten a case from www.solarpc.com |
| 00:45.00 | dan2 | mishehu: its like a 4 man company, nice people really |
| 00:46.36 | Landrocker | does anyone know what AST_SOFTHANGUP_ASYNCGOTO does? |
| 00:46.55 | *** part/#asterisk atlantis_ (~chatzilla@cm219.delta48.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 00:48.23 | mishehu | dan2: how much did you pay? |
| 00:48.55 | dan2 | mishehu: ~300 includes cl/pd10000 and power supply |
| 00:49.05 | dan2 | mishehu: and single riser |
| 00:49.28 | dan2 | mishehu: I bought the low profile hard drive from them, and a hl cdrw drive from ebay |
| 00:56.09 | DyOS | Can someone explain to me how to setup a bash script.....i'm tring to setup fax to email and you have to configure a bash script but i have no idea what it's talking about |
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| 00:59.55 | mishehu | DyOS: there's not really anything to set up for a bash script. |
| 01:00.47 | Landrocker | DyOS, a bash script is basically like a windows bat script for linux |
| 01:00.57 | Landrocker | it's just a file with commands to run one after the other |
| 01:01.27 | Landrocker | however, to make the file executable you probably want to make the first line: '#!/bin/bash' (without the quotes) |
| 01:01.45 | Landrocker | and then do a 'chmod 755 <filename>' |
| 01:08.13 | Nugget | /bin/bash is poor form. unless you truly need bash, /bin/sh is safer. |
| 01:16.32 | Qwell | I know plantronics is good, but could somebody recommend a decent model of USB headset(from Plantronics)? |
| 01:16.56 | Qwell | working in Linux is a plus, but not a requirement... |
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| 01:30.28 | `Sauron | Nugglet |
| 01:31.09 | `Sauron | I should probably use the right name |
| 01:31.12 | `Sauron | Nugget |
| 01:31.22 | `Sauron | Chicken Nuggets, anyone? :) |
| 01:36.39 | hardwire | heh |
| 01:38.08 | nix000 | anyone here familiar with quintum tenor 960 hardware ...i am looking for good/bad type of review versus cisco gw |
| 01:40.40 | izo | i have with a800 |
| 01:41.05 | izo | ternor 1 vversoin |
| 01:47.51 | CoaxD | Wooo. I have a nifty version of 'Travelin' Soldier' going.. Got the tabs from a website. |
| 01:50.25 | DyOS | Can someone help me with this stupid rxfax command every time i try to use this fax to email program asterisk tells me no application 'rxfax' can someone just please point me in the right direction as to what i'm doing wrong please |
| 01:50.29 | DyOS | been working on this for hours |
| 01:51.08 | CoaxD | DyOS: You might have to change a config option on asterisk compile to get it to work |
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| 01:51.15 | DyOS | no application 'rxfax' for extension macro(faxreceive, s, 7) |
| 01:51.27 | DyOS | coaxD what does that mean...? |
| 01:51.47 | CoaxD | voip*CLI> show application rxfax |
| 01:51.47 | CoaxD | Your application(s) is (are) not registered |
| 01:51.52 | CoaxD | it means that you'll need to recompile asterisk |
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| 01:52.13 | DyOS | ok...cool thanks...so the problem is asterisk doesn't know what rxfax is? right? |
| 01:52.19 | CoaxD | Yep |
| 01:52.22 | CoaxD | you got it |
| 01:52.27 | DyOS | thanks man |
| 01:52.29 | CoaxD | sure |
| 01:52.36 | P-NuT | Hi all |
| 01:52.39 | CoaxD | altho i've never used rxfax - there are apps that arent compiled by default |
| 01:52.58 | P-NuT | Anybody familiar with seting up a cisco 7905 with asterisk? |
| 01:53.11 | DyOS | so is there a wiki article i can read or something to figure out how to register applications? |
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| 01:57.40 | P-NuT | Does anybody here use any cisco phones with asterisk? |
| 01:59.09 | SexyKen | Anyone want to help me figure out how to have Asterisk dial my extension and dial my cell phone at the exact same time when a DID comes thorugh |
| 01:59.29 | Druken | just do two dials... |
| 01:59.46 | SexyKen | Druken, But then it dials one and then when the other doesn't anwer it dials the next. |
| 01:59.51 | file[laptop] | & |
| 01:59.52 | SexyKen | I want them dialed at the exact same tme. |
| 01:59.57 | SexyKen | &? |
| 01:59.58 | Druken | no, no no |
| 02:00.02 | file[laptop] | Dial(SIP/myphone&SIP/mynumber@myprovider) |
| 02:00.07 | file[laptop] | that'll dial both of those at the same time |
| 02:00.10 | file[laptop] | first one that picks up, gets it |
| 02:00.13 | Druken | what file[laptop] typed |
| 02:00.15 | SexyKen | Ahhh. |
| 02:00.16 | SexyKen | Cool. |
| 02:00.18 | SexyKen | Let me test |
| 02:00.20 | SexyKen | Thanks guys :-) |
| 02:00.41 | Druken | god damn file[laptop], what do you type? 200 wpm ? |
| 02:00.54 | file[laptop] | I haven't tested myself in a long time |
| 02:00.56 | file[laptop] | so who knows |
| 02:01.23 | file[laptop] | I wonder what movie it is... |
| 02:01.31 | file[laptop] | sweet |
| 02:01.34 | file[laptop] | The Andromeda Strain! |
| 02:01.42 | Druken | never heard of it |
| 02:01.52 | file[laptop] | it's based on a book |
| 02:01.57 | P-NuT | Has anyone had any luck getting Tiger3xx cards to work with asterisk? |
| 02:01.58 | Druken | most movies are |
| 02:02.01 | file[laptop] | but essentially space virus, earth, death, yada yada yada |
| 02:02.24 | file[laptop] | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066769/ |
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| 02:03.10 | SexyKen | shit |
| 02:03.12 | SexyKen | Well look |
| 02:03.21 | SexyKen | Executing Dial("IAX2/teliax@teliax/7", "sip/1.201&{CZ}/6507846652|20|r") in new stack |
| 02:03.49 | SexyKen | Mar 19 20:09:15 NOTICE[30522]: app_dial.c:884 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type '{CZ}' (cause 66) |
| 02:03.49 | file[laptop] | ${CZ} |
| 02:03.49 | SexyKen | Ah |
| 02:03.49 | SexyKen | Thanks |
| 02:03.49 | Qwell | heh |
| 02:03.50 | SexyKen | Didn't even notice. |
| 02:03.50 | Druken | whoops :) |
| 02:03.59 | Druken | gotta read dialplans carefully :) |
| 02:04.12 | file[laptop] | this movie is so very very long, but I do enjoy watching it |
| 02:04.41 | Druken | oh god.... starsky and hutch just came on |
| 02:04.52 | Qwell | Druken: movie, or tv series |
| 02:04.57 | Druken | movie |
| 02:05.07 | P-NuT | bye |
| 02:05.12 | *** part/#asterisk P-NuT (~Daveo-@CPE-144-133-102-233.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 02:05.26 | Druken | ben stiller has to be the worst actor for the part |
| 02:05.27 | SexyKen | What is some other really cool stuff I can use Asterisk for? I have a SIP Hard PHone & my cell |
| 02:06.19 | Druken | what can it be used for? use your imagination... if it can be done with a phone, it can be done with asterisk |
| 02:06.32 | Druken | didn't bkw even make a game or two ? |
| 02:06.39 | firestrm | anyone feel like helping me with a very strange problem? I have an * box with a tdm400 2 fxo 2 fxs, fxs are on chan 1-2 fxo on 3-4. The system was running fine for a week, now for some reason, it dies when trying to start asterisk with :Mar 19 18:05:33 WARNING[2375]: chan_zap.c:769 zt_open: Unable to specify channel 1: No such device. ztcfg reports everything is ok. zttool likewise.. i need some help debugging this one.. |
| 02:07.15 | Druken | firestrm: reboot it |
| 02:07.19 | firestrm | tried that |
| 02:07.49 | Druken | you rebooted the entire system ? |
| 02:08.15 | Druken | i had a problem with my tdm of modules magically disapearing.... |
| 02:08.18 | firestrm | yes brought it completely down then back up again |
| 02:08.28 | Druken | and suddenly reapeared after a reboot |
| 02:08.30 | firestrm | didnt powercycle thogugh |
| 02:09.20 | Druken | give it a power cycle (just in case) if not then something else might be doing it :) |
| 02:09.24 | firestrm | i cant' its remote.. need to be escorted to get to it, and no one avail on weekend without big $$$ |
| 02:09.43 | Druken | oh.. a colo'd box |
| 02:10.09 | Druken | they don't provide a remote power switch ? |
| 02:10.17 | firestrm | lol |
| 02:10.52 | firestrm | i think its the big red one label EPO |
| 02:11.31 | Druken | emergency power off :) |
| 02:11.32 | Druken | that works |
| 02:11.35 | Druken | hehehe |
| 02:11.46 | firestrm | thats why they insist on escorts.. |
| 02:12.32 | Druken | just wait till the ups runs out of battery, and the genny runs out of diesel.. you know the drill |
| 02:13.02 | firestrm | its telus's main Colo site in vancouver.. i think i could even take out phone service for western canada with that switch. |
| 02:13.25 | Druken | pfft, who needs phones... |
| 02:13.34 | Qwell | western canada sure doesn't |
| 02:14.29 | firestrm | of course, we are much more advanced than the east.. we use telepathy |
| 02:14.54 | firestrm | we only need them to talk to the east.. |
| 02:15.10 | Qwell | east canada has phones? |
| 02:15.16 | firestrm | lol |
| 02:16.22 | Druken | nope... |
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| 02:17.33 | Druken | i told me neighbor he could rip out my phoneline today.. wouldn't hurt my feelings any... |
| 02:17.42 | Druken | but i'd be mighty pissed if he killed my cable |
| 02:18.23 | mogorman | i see... |
| 02:18.57 | Druken | you better see.... hehe |
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| 02:24.50 | firestrm | arrgh.. now my other * mach is acting up.. WTF!! |
| 02:28.32 | tzanger | werd y'all |
| 02:30.32 | firestrm | dammit, someone has to come up with a crack for digium's fucking retarded g729 register.. i have to call them and plead my case every time a make a hardware change. FUCK! |
| 02:30.45 | AgiNamu | firestrm, willing to pay for it? |
| 02:30.52 | AgiNamu | Shit, I got free time tomorrow maybe..... |
| 02:30.53 | tzanger | firestrm: the bigger question is why are you constantly changing hardware? |
| 02:30.55 | firestrm | i HAVE paid for it |
| 02:31.11 | AgiNamu | i wonder, do the G729 patent holders enforce this nonsense? |
| 02:31.16 | tzanger | AgiNamu: yes |
| 02:31.31 | AgiNamu | so digium is *requred* to use that particular activation scheme? |
| 02:31.49 | tzanger | AgiNamu: they're require dto lock it to the hardware |
| 02:31.57 | tzanger | why are you constantly chanign your network cards? |
| 02:32.33 | firestrm | we'll i know what my next project is.. they can take their lock and shove it where the sun dont shine.. ive pay my fee. dont piss me off with reregistering |
| 02:32.52 | tzanger | firestrm: then deal with the g729 patent holder directly |
| 02:33.08 | firestrm | im not, all ive changed was a failing hard drive. not even the main one, just a secondary one for VM |
| 02:33.12 | AgiNamu | firestrm, then use the open source g729 one |
| 02:33.29 | tzanger | firestrm: odd, it should only be locked to the network card IIRC |
| 02:33.54 | mogorman | firestm |
| 02:33.57 | firestrm | ive not touched the network card, this is the 4th time its screwed up |
| 02:34.03 | mogorman | we are happy to move your license |
| 02:34.03 | Damin | AgiNamu: There are no OpenSource g729 implementations. Only Intel's reference code.. |
| 02:34.10 | mogorman | we give you multiple attempts |
| 02:34.13 | AgiNamu | damin, yes, that's code, and you can use it. |
| 02:34.15 | mogorman | and damin is right |
| 02:34.25 | mogorman | is not open source |
| 02:34.27 | AgiNamu | it's not "Open Source by Stallman(tm)" |
| 02:34.30 | AgiNamu | but it's open fucking source |
| 02:34.33 | Damin | AgiNamu: For research and development, yes. Not for commercial purposes. |
| 02:34.37 | AgiNamu | as in, here's the damn code, compile |
| 02:34.40 | AgiNamu | im not talking about licenses |
| 02:34.49 | AgiNamu | having access to code doesnt infer licensing. |
| 02:35.07 | AgiNamu | I'm talking that firestrm wants to crack the codec_g729a.so. Depending on skill, it might just be easier to go and compile the intel code. |
| 02:35.16 | firestrm | thats fine by me.. im only using the box for personal and learning purposes.. |
| 02:35.25 | AgiNamu | and he can deal with the legal issues if the patent holders come knocking :P |
| 02:35.34 | AgiNamu | but saying that it's not open is just making shit up |
| 02:35.42 | mogorman | agnimu, man you are a little bit of a punk about this |
| 02:35.46 | mogorman | its not opensource |
| 02:35.50 | mogorman | by the real def of the word |
| 02:35.53 | mogorman | it is source |
| 02:36.04 | firestrm | AgiNamu, where do i find this "opensource" code? |
| 02:36.17 | AgiNamu | /var/lib/asterisk/licenses <-- what goes there? |
| 02:36.36 | AgiNamu | yea, my definition of open source means source you can openly get. |
| 02:36.46 | AgiNamu | redef it as you see fit. |
| 02:36.50 | AgiNamu | firestrm: just google. |
| 02:36.55 | AgiNamu | it's been mentioned on the lists a lot. |
| 02:37.18 | mogorman | okay, i define the word dumbass to mean aginamu... |
| 02:37.34 | AgiNamu | great. hope that works for ya. |
| 02:37.36 | firestrm | mogorman, digium may allow me to move it and multiple attempts, but where can i phone NOW to reset the thing so i can get my PHONE to work |
| 02:37.47 | mogorman | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.49 | firestrm | answer .. nowhere.. they are closed |
| 02:37.55 | mogorman | we usually reset em very quickly |
| 02:38.00 | DyOS | does anyone know how to intall libtiff |
| 02:38.01 | DyOS | ? |
| 02:38.07 | AgiNamu | there's no automated system? |
| 02:38.12 | AgiNamu | like MS does? |
| 02:38.18 | mogorman | not at this moment |
| 02:38.23 | mogorman | is automated for creation |
| 02:38.30 | mogorman | we cant have automated for incrementing |
| 02:38.37 | mogorman | because of legal reasons |
| 02:38.38 | AgiNamu | patent holder restriction? |
| 02:38.51 | AgiNamu | im assuming you work for digium? |
| 02:39.05 | mogorman | whats the point of having limited num of attempts if you can increment for free |
| 02:39.48 | AgiNamu | You can still increment for free no? |
| 02:39.56 | AgiNamu | just have to send an email right? |
| 02:40.06 | mogorman | yeah |
| 02:40.10 | firestrm | they should at least up the attempts to somthing reasonable like 4 or 5.. anoying paying users is just asking for somone to remove protection for all. |
| 02:40.14 | mogorman | but if you have incremented 20 times... |
| 02:40.22 | mogorman | i understand is a pain |
| 02:40.40 | AgiNamu | Yea, and I understand digium is stuck behind some medieval licensing :( |
| 02:40.50 | AgiNamu | So, what happens if someone cracks digium's codec? |
| 02:41.00 | firestrm | their screwed |
| 02:41.10 | mogorman | its happened |
| 02:41.11 | firestrm | once it hits p2p. its everywhere |
| 02:41.12 | mogorman | and was stopped |
| 02:41.16 | AgiNamu | legally? the patent holders reverse things? |
| 02:41.28 | AgiNamu | firestrm, no, im not advocating people dont pay digium |
| 02:41.36 | AgiNamu | hell, G729 is the only thing I *can* pay them for |
| 02:41.36 | firestrm | neither am i. |
| 02:41.42 | mogorman | ^_^ |
| 02:41.43 | AgiNamu | unless they have a Paypal donations thing :P |
| 02:41.45 | firestrm | i just want the product i paid for. |
| 02:41.46 | mogorman | lol |
| 02:42.07 | AgiNamu | i think they should license it at $500 or $1000 a year |
| 02:42.11 | AgiNamu | or fuck, $5000 |
| 02:42.24 | AgiNamu | I'd have paid that. |
| 02:42.38 | AgiNamu | but will probably spend it on hiring people to add more support to asterisk |
| 02:42.38 | dersteer | is the codec that good? |
| 02:42.42 | sivana | I got my license within a couple of hours |
| 02:42.45 | AgiNamu | dersteer, no i'd have paid for Asterisk |
| 02:42.51 | AgiNamu | G729... only cause I have to :P |
| 02:43.11 | firestrm | i dont think it was properly disclosed that i would have to beg support every time the license huckuped eiher.. i tend to not buy products that are unresonably locked. |
| 02:43.13 | mogorman | ? |
| 02:43.27 | mogorman | it is not unreasonably locked |
| 02:43.31 | AgiNamu | firestrm, yea, well, you'd find it with G729 anywhere |
| 02:43.49 | AgiNamu | at any rate, stop bitching, get out IDA pro, and fix it yourself. Or go compile the um, other G729 source |
| 02:44.13 | firestrm | AgiNamu, searching for the other source now.. |
| 02:44.24 | firestrm | digium can jam their licence |
| 02:44.29 | AgiNamu | i msg'd you the link dammit :) |
| 02:44.33 | AgiNamu | You already paid digium |
| 02:44.37 | sivana | what's the issue? |
| 02:44.37 | AgiNamu | so they ain't jamming shit |
| 02:44.44 | AgiNamu | he moves hardware every hour |
| 02:44.49 | AgiNamu | and doesnt like reactivating :) |
| 02:44.54 | firestrm | AgiNamu, thanks.. missed the window. |
| 02:44.54 | sivana | hehe |
| 02:44.55 | mogorman | why move hw every hour? |
| 02:45.08 | sivana | gotta love it |
| 02:45.08 | AgiNamu | i was exagerrating. maybe he moves every year. |
| 02:45.27 | mogorman | once a year |
| 02:45.29 | mogorman | one email |
| 02:45.31 | mogorman | bam |
| 02:45.34 | firestrm | i dont move at all.. it just quits working every month or so.. |
| 02:45.39 | mogorman | ???? |
| 02:45.44 | mogorman | that doesnt make sense |
| 02:45.48 | sivana | I just installed it, so I don't know |
| 02:45.49 | mogorman | please go on |
| 02:47.25 | AgiNamu | RSA? wow. |
| 02:47.48 | mogorman | ? |
| 02:47.50 | AgiNamu | first protection system I've seen with RSA in it. |
| 02:49.23 | AgiNamu | this is gonna make a fun sunday project |
| 02:49.34 | AgiNamu | I've never played with compiled code on linux. |
| 02:49.46 | Nugget | linux is poo :) |
| 02:50.11 | mogorman | righthttttt |
| 02:50.13 | AgiNamu | ok, I've never looked at an ELF file |
| 02:50.29 | AgiNamu | do we get a prize if we unlock it or something? prolly not.. I' |
| 02:50.33 | Beirdo | Nugget doesn't like anything. Ignore him |
| 02:50.35 | AgiNamu | ve just been playing Zelda too much :P |
| 02:50.55 | MikeJ[Jayden] | kram, are you here? |
| 02:51.03 | AgiNamu | Like, when I go to open the door and pick up my keys, light flies around my head and a little fanfare plays. |
| 02:51.30 | AgiNamu | well, guess I'll go. Sopranos are on. |
| 02:51.44 | Beirdo | don't get whacked |
| 02:53.48 | AgiNamu | yea, ill be careful |
| 02:53.54 | AgiNamu | those dvd players can be right nasty. |
| 02:56.10 | PTG123 | I know this is a long shot but, anyone in here by chance know anything about solar energy calculations? :) |
| 02:56.21 | Beirdo | WTF? |
| 02:56.25 | mogorman | lol |
| 02:56.29 | mogorman | decent question... |
| 02:56.33 | PTG123 | heh |
| 02:56.44 | PTG123 | i want to figure out how many solar panels i would need to replace my current energy usage :) |
| 02:57.03 | mogorman | how much energy you use? |
| 02:57.04 | Beirdo | which is just SOOO related to asterisk :) |
| 02:57.32 | PTG123 | 3500kw |
| 02:57.43 | PTG123 | i guess :) |
| 02:57.44 | Qwell | per month? |
| 02:57.46 | PTG123 | yah |
| 02:57.52 | PTG123 | oh wait |
| 02:57.55 | PTG123 | strike that |
| 02:57.58 | PTG123 | 5500kw |
| 02:58.04 | Qwell | kwh, really |
| 02:58.05 | mogorman | that is a whole lot of power |
| 02:58.12 | PTG123 | yah kWh actually |
| 02:58.24 | Qwell | whatever :p |
| 02:58.33 | mogorman | you are gonna have to cut back to do it with solar reasonably i would assume |
| 02:58.34 | PTG123 | so thats 5000@120v |
| 02:58.39 | mogorman | but i have never built one |
| 02:58.42 | *** join/#asterisk PoWeRKiLL (~PoWeRKiLL@l02m-4-165.d4.club-internet.fr) |
| 02:58.54 | PTG123 | when they say a 100watt panel @ 12 volt |
| 02:58.54 | Qwell | Are you trying to completely eliminate the powergrid? |
| 02:58.59 | PTG123 | is that how many atts in a day it can produce? |
| 02:59.26 | PTG123 | Qwell: no not nec... i am gonna build a new house was thinking about putting like $50k worth of solar stuff built into the design |
| 02:59.29 | mogorman | i think that is doable |
| 02:59.49 | PTG123 | so back to the question, a 100watt solar panel is that 100watts per 24 hour cycle? |
| 02:59.50 | Qwell | well, you're certainly in the right area for solar, heh |
| 02:59.51 | mogorman | i mean your best bet is to have it leak in to your grid, and store any excess if you ahve it |
| 03:00.02 | mogorman | yeah it also depends what region your in |
| 03:00.06 | Shido6 | u guys still at it? |
| 03:00.06 | PTG123 | mogorman: yah exactly |
| 03:00.14 | PTG123 | i am in phoenix, can't be in a better region for solar |
| 03:00.26 | PTG123 | i wanted to see how feasable it is to build a house complex that uses mostly solar power |
| 03:00.41 | PTG123 | so back to the question, when they say you have a 100watt power supply, its 100watts/hour |
| 03:00.42 | PTG123 | right? |
| 03:01.02 | MikeJ[Jayden] | 100 watt means it will produce 100 watts in full sun |
| 03:01.05 | Nugget | hey. I like asterisk! :) |
| 03:01.08 | PTG123 | so basically thats 10watts at 120v, so assuming a 7 hour day, 70watts per panel |
| 03:01.09 | Nugget | I just don't like linux. |
| 03:01.21 | Nugget | and I think that bkw is the bee's knees. |
| 03:01.26 | PTG123 | so 78 100watt panels, would elimate my energy usage? |
| 03:01.40 | mogorman | i dont think so |
| 03:01.52 | mogorman | but it would during the day |
| 03:01.52 | PTG123 | what don't you think so about? |
| 03:02.03 | mogorman | storage of power costs you a lot |
| 03:02.05 | PTG123 | no thats why i used 7 hours |
| 03:02.11 | mogorman | i mean just having it go to power is fine |
| 03:02.19 | mogorman | but when you run off battery you lose a lot |
| 03:02.24 | mogorman | from what i remeber |
| 03:02.25 | PTG123 | assuming ic ould efficently store and convert it |
| 03:02.38 | PTG123 | basically i think with 50 180watt panels, i could use little to no electricity |
| 03:03.01 | PTG123 | esp once i convert a number of appliances to dc, or straight solar |
| 03:04.01 | PTG123 | unfortunately i use more power int he sumar :) |
| 03:04.07 | PTG123 | er summer |
| 03:04.13 | mogorman | well you make more then |
| 03:04.21 | PTG123 | make more energy? |
| 03:04.56 | mogorman | meaning you are at better postition with sun |
| 03:05.01 | PTG123 | yah |
| 03:05.03 | firestrm | PTG123, tried microhydro? |
| 03:05.11 | PTG123 | but 180watt panel probably will possibly produce close to peak then |
| 03:05.19 | PTG123 | in the winter probably more like 140watts |
| 03:05.39 | PTG123 | i wonder how cheap i could get the panels if i bought like 1000 of them |
| 03:05.48 | PTG123 | and i wonder if the goverment would subsidize |
| 03:06.21 | PTG123 | oh |
| 03:06.23 | PTG123 | my numbers are off |
| 03:06.28 | PTG123 | the 170watt is 24v |
| 03:06.32 | PTG123 | so i could get away with 24 panels |
| 03:06.37 | mogorman | lol i am a big believer that if you write enough letters you get what you want |
| 03:06.52 | PTG123 | at $785 a piece |
| 03:07.11 | PTG123 | hmm they have a 315 watt one at 50 vts |
| 03:07.33 | PTG123 | $4/watt |
| 03:07.35 | mogorman | now that is power |
| 03:07.38 | PTG123 | wow those would be awesome |
| 03:07.44 | PTG123 | need to buy 20 at a time |
| 03:07.46 | mogorman | how big are they? |
| 03:08.06 | PTG123 | 6300/watts/hr at 50v |
| 03:08.16 | PTG123 | 74" by 50" |
| 03:09.04 | mogorman | nice |
| 03:09.11 | DyOS | can someone tell me why i'm too stupid to install spandsp |
| 03:09.23 | AgiNamu | kudos to whoever wrote the G729 protection code btw. |
| 03:09.24 | mogorman | good question |
| 03:09.30 | mogorman | heh i will give him it |
| 03:09.46 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ptg, 100 watt panel can produce 100 watt/hrs in 1 hr of full direct sun |
| 03:09.53 | tzanger | DyOS: give me some more info |
| 03:09.55 | AgiNamu | I'm guessing, just thinking, havent really looked, that the license file that's downloaded is actually a RSA-encrypted license. |
| 03:10.11 | AgiNamu | and since the privat ekey is held by digium.... No way to write a keygen |
| 03:10.16 | PTG123 | mike: yah thats what i figured |
| 03:10.56 | DyOS | well i downloaded the spandsp 0.0.2 and i did a ./configure then i did a make then a make install...i really don't know linux...but from what i read that's how you istall it but then when a i do a locate app_rxfax i can't find it |
| 03:11.03 | mogorman | ^_^ |
| 03:11.04 | Eight | AgiNamu: you'd think that would be used more often, heh. |
| 03:11.06 | MikeJ[Jayden] | so yes, 10 - 100 watt panels, would theoretically produce 7kwh in 7 hrs of FULL sun. but full sun is no clouds, at a perfect 90 deg to the panel, so in reality, that does not happen w/o a tracking system. |
| 03:11.15 | tzanger | DyOS: spandsp is a library |
| 03:11.20 | MikeJ[Jayden] | and really good sun |
| 03:11.21 | PTG123 | mike: plan on the tracking system |
| 03:11.24 | tzanger | app_rx/txfax are extra modules for asterisk |
| 03:11.26 | PTG123 | and really good sun we have :) |
| 03:11.26 | MikeJ[Jayden] | and right at the equator |
| 03:11.26 | DyOS | and i tried a command patch <Makefile.patch....that didn't work either |
| 03:11.30 | PTG123 | we don't get clouds |
| 03:11.38 | tzanger | you need to put them in the apps/ directory of asterisk and applyt the patch to asterisk |
| 03:11.42 | *** join/#asterisk NormAst (HydraIRC@toronto-HSE-ppp3972479.sympatico.ca) |
| 03:11.42 | tzanger | and recompile asterisk |
| 03:11.42 | AgiNamu | Eight: yea, most only use a symmetrical algorithm. |
| 03:11.43 | MikeJ[Jayden] | or equators |
| 03:11.48 | NormAst | Hi all |
| 03:11.54 | DyOS | can you go into more detail that is too vague for me |
| 03:11.57 | DyOS | or give me something i can read? |
| 03:12.00 | PTG123 | well according to the charts, i just count this as a 7.2hr day |
| 03:12.03 | PTG123 | in my area |
| 03:12.04 | tzanger | IIRC the patch is old.. but if you look at it it's a simple atch |
| 03:12.06 | AgiNamu | My goal is to see the fewest bytes I can change to make it activate unlimited. |
| 03:12.13 | PTG123 | actually i am almost as good as the equator, according to the maps |
| 03:12.17 | tzanger | evening NormAst |
| 03:12.24 | NormAst | hay |
| 03:12.27 | hardwire | PTG123: where? |
| 03:12.38 | hardwire | what? |
| 03:12.40 | hardwire | why? |
| 03:12.42 | hardwire | who? |
| 03:12.44 | DyOS | tzanger where do i get those files to put them in the asterisk directory? |
| 03:12.55 | DyOS | and what patch do i need to apply? |
| 03:12.58 | NormAst | Anyone know where I can find a compiled speex codec? I want to try it. How does it compare to iLBC? |
| 03:12.58 | tzanger | you'll see app_rxfax.c app_txfax.c in the dir |
| 03:13.00 | tzanger | and the patch |
| 03:13.01 | tzanger | it's all htere |
| 03:13.04 | DyOS | ok |
| 03:13.06 | PTG123 | each one of those panels |
| 03:13.11 | PTG123 | produces almost 1kw per day |
| 03:13.13 | DyOS | so stick those files in the apps directory of asterisk |
| 03:13.15 | DyOS | then what? |
| 03:13.16 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ptg, assuming no loss in bateries or iverting and such :) |
| 03:13.21 | DyOS | how do i execute that patch file? |
| 03:13.34 | NormAst | you get 10 to 15% loss. |
| 03:13.36 | MikeJ[Jayden] | not 1kw per day, 1kwh a day |
| 03:13.37 | tzanger | DyOS: as I said the patch I think is old |
| 03:14.08 | PTG123 | damn i would need alot of panels |
| 03:14.17 | NormAst | a really good inverter you can get 95 to 98% eff. |
| 03:14.20 | MikeJ[Jayden] | and a lot of bateries |
| 03:14.21 | sivana | tzanger: 6 got me MAR |
| 03:14.25 | NormAst | PTG123: checkout homepower.com |
| 03:14.29 | tzanger | sivana: yeah I saw that |
| 03:14.31 | MikeJ[Jayden] | and a good inverter |
| 03:14.32 | tzanger | and no packet issues either |
| 03:14.38 | sivana | and no daily power cycles :) |
| 03:14.50 | tzanger | I'd *LOVE* to see an inverter that gets 95% efficiency at load |
| 03:15.04 | MikeJ[Jayden] | I love that this is such a channel appropriate topic |
| 03:15.07 | MikeJ[Jayden] | hehe |
| 03:15.07 | tzanger | most efficiency figures are bullshit :-) |
| 03:15.26 | PTG123 | i would need like 100 panels |
| 03:15.26 | MikeJ[Jayden] | mostly I am full of shit :D |
| 03:15.29 | DyOS | hey tzanger so if the patch is old what should i do to install those files? |
| 03:15.33 | mogorman | 95% i have never heard of anything that good |
| 03:15.38 | DyOS | do i need to modify it or download a new one? |
| 03:15.46 | tzanger | MikeJ[Jayden]: the problem with this channel si that so many things are related |
| 03:15.50 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ptg. if you unplug your refrigerator, you'll need less |
| 03:15.52 | MikeJ[Jayden] | hehe |
| 03:15.56 | tzanger | DyOS: there is no new patch |
| 03:16.00 | NormAst | some of the ones from listed in homepower mag. are that good.. 4K plus. |
| 03:16.06 | tzanger | DyOS: if you look at the patch it is NOT that difficult, make the change manually |
| 03:16.06 | PTG123 | mike: heh was thinking dc refridgerator |
| 03:16.30 | tzanger | NormAst: I am in the business of industrial power electronics... 95% efficiency is marketing fluff |
| 03:16.37 | sivana | AgiNamu: how do I use the forms authentication in .NET? |
| 03:16.48 | AgiNamu | im me |
| 03:16.53 | PTG123 | i would need to cover the entire roof in panels to make it doable |
| 03:16.54 | sivana | ok |
| 03:17.09 | NormAst | tzanger: Yea... I know.. I just hook up a current meter and figure out how much power I am going to need from that. |
| 03:17.11 | DyOS | tzanger: I'm sure it's not that hard....but i really have no idea what i'm looking for or what i'm supposed to be changing...and once it is modified how do i execute the patch file? |
| 03:17.15 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ptg, can you sell back your overflow but stay on grid in your area? |
| 03:17.18 | tzanger | our drives can get to 98% efficiency but it's at a very specific power level, and it's not 100% :-) |
| 03:17.18 | mogorman | yeah you get a good fridge, and air flow |
| 03:17.23 | mogorman | you reach easy power |
| 03:17.32 | PTG123 | mike: it doesnt look like i would have overflow, unless i am missing something |
| 03:17.42 | tzanger | NormAst: you need more than a current meter... a good power meter which can measure harmonics up to at least the 15th without distortion... high crest factors |
| 03:17.58 | tzanger | DyOS: you don't "execute" a patch file, yo uuse the patch command to apply it |
| 03:18.02 | tzanger | patch < patchfile |
| 03:18.07 | tzanger | and as I said it won't work |
| 03:18.07 | DyOS | cool thanks |
| 03:18.11 | DyOS | :) |
| 03:18.15 | DyOS | ok so how do i edit it? |
| 03:18.22 | NormAst | tzanger: I am sure you right but... I am simple... |
| 03:18.23 | DyOS | i'm gogn to try it and cross my fingers |
| 03:18.24 | MikeJ[Jayden] | if you can sell overflow, then you need way less in batteries, and you jsut oversupply during the day, and draw from the grid at night |
| 03:18.30 | PTG123 | wait i am wrong |
| 03:18.31 | MikeJ[Jayden] | best of both worlds |
| 03:18.37 | PTG123 | 315 watts is watts i was converting poorly |
| 03:18.39 | MikeJ[Jayden] | yes, indeed you are |
| 03:18.43 | PTG123 | so a 315watt, is 2kw per day? |
| 03:18.52 | MikeJ[Jayden] | hehe |
| 03:18.54 | DyOS | so how do you know if the patch file succeeded? |
| 03:18.55 | tzanger | NormAst: yes but a regular current meter won't give you the right answer... inverters spew harmonics all over the spectrum and that takes away from your efficiency |
| 03:18.55 | MikeJ[Jayden] | hummm |
| 03:18.57 | DyOS | if it didn't complain? |
| 03:18.58 | PTG123 | so 60panels i would need |
| 03:19.10 | NormAst | I'm using 361 from my computer, monitor , CPU.. |
| 03:19.13 | tzanger | anyone who dumps it into batteries does *NOT* take into account the battery maintenance costs |
| 03:19.14 | NormAst | watts |
| 03:19.23 | PTG123 | 1500sqft of panels would be needed |
| 03:19.24 | NormAst | Got a Kill-a-watt meter... Nice toy |
| 03:19.25 | mogorman | yeah battery is what is gonna kill you |
| 03:19.35 | tzanger | you want to dump it inot heat |
| 03:19.43 | tzanger | and any excess back on the grid |
| 03:19.48 | tzanger | it's too much work to maintain batteries |
| 03:19.49 | PTG123 | well i could always sell excessive during day |
| 03:19.50 | MikeJ[Jayden] | that is what I was saying, you need to see what the rules are for dumping extra power to the grid |
| 03:19.51 | mogorman | you are better off just hitting the grid for a bit |
| 03:19.53 | PTG123 | and then use normal power at night |
| 03:19.56 | mogorman | yeah |
| 03:19.56 | PTG123 | so i don't even need batteries |
| 03:20.21 | NormAst | Sorry.. Why do we need batteries? I missed the start of the converstaion |
| 03:20.23 | MikeJ[Jayden] | you still need some batteries |
| 03:20.34 | PTG123 | why would i need batteries? |
| 03:20.42 | tzanger | I'd like to play with solar heating and wastewater heat recovery -- control the flow of the coolant such that you maintain only a couple of degrees above ambient to minimize energy loss trhough radiation |
| 03:20.50 | PTG123 | you dump excess intop the grid, and you utilize the grid fr what you need |
| 03:20.53 | MikeJ[Jayden] | you want your * box to keep going when the grid dies |
| 03:20.59 | PTG123 | haha |
| 03:21.02 | tzanger | keep it in a good insulated isolated hot water tank in the basement and have a coolant/water heat exchanger |
| 03:21.07 | PTG123 | i'll swim in the pool when the grid dies :) |
| 03:21.55 | MikeJ[Jayden] | tzanger, hot water storage via really really deep wells, pump heat down in the summer, back up in the winter, or when you need it for hot water |
| 03:22.03 | DyOS | tzanger how do i know if the patch file succeeded? Or how do i know what needs to be changed in it? |
| 03:22.23 | NormAst | PTG123: what are you trying to due, with all this battery stuff? |
| 03:22.26 | MikeJ[Jayden] | dyos, have you looked at the patch file contents |
| 03:22.26 | PTG123 | ok we live in the desert, you can't even dig a 1 ft hole :) |
| 03:22.26 | PTG123 | and their is no water down there |
| 03:22.27 | tzanger | I want to put up some solar heating and some wind generation, no more than a couple kilowatts... just dump it directly into heat... when the wind blows you're losing heat so use it to feed it back |
| 03:22.34 | PTG123 | Normast: just replace as much power as possible with solar |
| 03:22.38 | mogorman | that is awesome |
| 03:22.40 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ptg, really really deep |
| 03:22.48 | tzanger | DyOS: it'll tell you whether the chunks succeed or fail |
| 03:23.03 | PTG123 | i was thinking about building an entire house development based on solar homes |
| 03:23.04 | NormAst | PTG123: Yea, I have a 90 watt solar pannel. :) |
| 03:23.06 | DyOS | well i did patch <Makefile.patch and it jsut went to the next command line |
| 03:23.07 | PTG123 | could be a gimic |
| 03:23.07 | DyOS | no erros |
| 03:23.17 | PTG123 | NormAst: heh what for? |
| 03:23.19 | MikeJ[Jayden] | dyos, thats good |
| 03:23.20 | DyOS | makej yea i'm looking at them i have no idea what all this means |
| 03:23.24 | NormAst | PTG123: Toy.. |
| 03:23.25 | tzanger | MikeJ[Jayden]: yes but now you need to take into account the cost of drilling and maintaining "really deep wells" |
| 03:23.45 | MikeJ[Jayden] | I didn't say it made financial sense.... |
| 03:23.48 | MikeJ[Jayden] | :D |
| 03:23.49 | tzanger | radiant heating is most efficient but damn it's pricey |
| 03:24.00 | PTG123 | we dont' need heat here :) |
| 03:24.06 | PTG123 | it never gets colder then 55 |
| 03:24.22 | tzanger | PTG123: well then use the heat difference you create to run a thermal engine and get cooling :-) |
| 03:24.28 | DyOS | mikej so if it worked now how do i verify that it is installed i still can't find app_rxfax |
| 03:24.31 | NormAst | hmmm....heat...... |
| 03:24.34 | MikeJ[Jayden] | build a bunker with south facing contollable windows |
| 03:24.38 | NormAst | ....hmmm.....summer..... |
| 03:24.56 | tzanger | DyOS: did you put the app_rxfax.c and app_txfax.c files in the apps/ directory? |
| 03:24.58 | PTG123 | tzanger: heh |
| 03:25.04 | DyOS | yup |
| 03:25.04 | MikeJ[Jayden] | dyos, you need to recompile * |
| 03:25.10 | tzanger | DyOS: and did you see the patch succeed? |
| 03:25.10 | MikeJ[Jayden] | and what tzanger said |
| 03:25.24 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ... ther has to be a doc on this, god.. I will go look |
| 03:25.29 | DyOS | it just went to the command prompt it didn't say succeed or fail |
| 03:25.32 | tzanger | DyOS: yes it does |
| 03:25.35 | tzanger | patch < somefile |
| 03:25.46 | tzanger | will say something like "hunk 1 succeeded" or "hunk 1 failed" |
| 03:25.52 | DyOS | oh hmmm |
| 03:26.43 | tzanger | sivana: so all's well now? |
| 03:27.12 | MikeJ[Jayden] | dyos, voip-info, search spandsp, click on comments, read the directions |
| 03:27.16 | DyOS | failed at 41 and 69 what does that mean? |
| 03:27.23 | tzanger | DyOS: what do you think it means? |
| 03:27.30 | tzanger | DyOS: I'm not being an ass, but you're not thinking at all |
| 03:27.36 | tzanger | you're not listening either |
| 03:27.43 | tzanger | I said that the patch won't work |
| 03:27.57 | tzanger | and to read the patch, it's very simple, it's adding app_rxfax and app_txfax to the list of files to compile and install |
| 03:27.57 | MikeJ[Jayden] | tzanger, you are being an ass... but not nearly as much as I would be right now |
| 03:28.04 | tzanger | edit the Makefile |
| 03:28.08 | tzanger | you have to do it manually |
| 03:28.17 | MikeJ[Jayden] | vi Makefile |
| 03:29.11 | DyOS | ok sorry i don't really know linux so i guess i'm just confused |
| 03:29.25 | tzanger | DyOS: the app_rxfax/txfax are NOT maintained very much |
| 03:29.30 | DyOS | i know it failed but 41 69 i dont understand that i'm guessing line 41 and 69 except there are not that many lines |
| 03:29.46 | tzanger | DyOS: you're asking for something that requires some basic compilation/programming knowledge |
| 03:29.49 | tzanger | not much, but some |
| 03:29.55 | tzanger | you need ot understand what the patch is trying to do |
| 03:30.18 | tzanger | not in the patch, in the Makefile |
| 03:30.21 | tzanger | those two lines in the Makefile |
| 03:30.25 | topping | howdy gang, i have an fxo, all the drivers apparently installed (no errors, reasonable dmesg), but getting 'No channel type registered for 'Zap'' when trying to Dial(Zap/<pstnPhoneNum>,60,r) |
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| 03:30.38 | dontmsgme | Can you have two sip clients going to asterisk named "12345" or will that cause confusion |
| 03:30.40 | tzanger | basically the patch says "@ some line, this text is present... - means erase this line, + means add this line" |
| 03:30.41 | topping | i'm missing something i'm sure |
| 03:31.38 | tzanger | DyOS: and basically the problem is that the lines have changed enough that the patch program can't compensate (patch is quite smart about small changes) |
| 03:31.48 | tzanger | so you have to find the lines that look similar and edit them by hand |
| 03:32.23 | tzanger | so basically look in the Makefile for the line looking a lot like the one that's -'d out in the patch, and then look at the difference betwen the -'d line and the +'d replacement line... and make the same change |
| 03:32.42 | tzanger | make a backup fo the Makefile first |
| 03:35.56 | DyOS | so i got this thing to succeed at both hunks |
| 03:36.05 | DyOS | so now my apps shoudl work when i restart *? |
| 03:36.24 | mogorman | or you can load em |
| 03:36.36 | tzanger | DyOS: after you recompile asterisk and install them,yes |
| 03:37.08 | DyOS | how do you verify that the makefile.patch actually worked? |
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| 03:37.16 | tzanger | DyOS: as I said |
| 03:37.21 | DyOS | it said succeeded |
| 03:37.24 | tzanger | the patch command will tell you |
| 03:37.28 | tzanger | then it worked |
| 03:37.30 | DyOS | ok |
| 03:37.31 | DyOS | cool |
| 03:37.36 | tzanger | so long as you altered the patch properly |
| 03:37.41 | tzanger | personally I hate patching patchfiles |
| 03:37.48 | tzanger | I edit the file the patch will edit |
| 03:38.28 | DyOS | i just read voip-info and found a patch that was modified already for that in the comments section |
| 03:38.35 | tzanger | ahh |
| 03:38.38 | DyOS | so how do i recomplie * and install those things |
| 03:39.01 | brc_ | ~seen malcolmd |
| 03:39.04 | jbot | malcolmd is currently on #asterisk (1d 5h 47m 9s) |
| 03:39.04 | tzanger | DyOS: how do you compile asterisk |
| 03:39.15 | brc_ | DyOS, cd /usr/src/asterisk |
| 03:39.25 | brc_ | patch -p0 </path/to/patchfile |
| 03:39.30 | brc_ | make clean && make install |
| 03:39.37 | tzanger | brc_: only if your asterisk install is in /usr/src/asterisk :-) |
| 03:39.44 | brc_ | well duh... |
| 03:39.53 | brc_ | if you can't figure that out there's no hope for you :) |
| 03:40.02 | mogorman | lol |
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| 03:42.18 | dontmsgme | Mar 19 19:32:24 NOTICE[27267]: chan_sip.c:8812 sip_poke_noanswer: Peer '12345' is now UNREACHABLE! Last qualify: 0 |
| 03:42.18 | dontmsgme | Mar 19 19:32:24 NOTICE[27267]: chan_iax2.c:7090 iax2_poke_noanswer: Peer '12345' is now UNREACHABLE! Time: 0 |
| 03:42.21 | dontmsgme | Any ideas? |
| 03:42.57 | mogorman | your peer is gone... |
| 03:43.06 | dontmsgme | It was working 10 mins ago |
| 03:43.12 | dontmsgme | I closed and reopened the softphone, now this |
| 03:44.16 | DyOS | this make clean && make install non sense isn't going to delete my extensions.conf file and otehr things is it? |
| 03:44.27 | tzanger | DyOS: only if you make sampels |
| 03:44.42 | tzanger | make install only overwrites the asterisk binaries |
| 03:44.48 | DyOS | cool |
| 03:45.19 | tzanger | and to be perfectly honest you don't need to make install, you just need to cp the apps/app_rx/txfax.so to /usr/lib/asterisk/modules |
| 03:46.10 | DyOS | oh well its going now |
| 03:46.46 | DyOS | i'm doing a locate app_rx and it's not finding anything....does that mean i fucked something up? |
| 03:47.01 | tzanger | locate works off of a precompiled database |
| 03:47.08 | DyOS | oh... |
| 03:47.21 | tzanger | you need to run updatedb (it's done automatically every night) manually if you want its output "current" |
| 03:47.46 | tzanger | if you want a file search you need to use 'find' |
| 03:49.05 | DyOS | no application 'rxfax' still |
| 03:49.07 | DyOS | ugggh |
| 03:49.24 | tzanger | DyOS: find / -name app_rxfax.so |
| 03:49.52 | tzanger | should give you 2 results, one in {asterisk_source}/apps/ and one in /usr/lib/asterisk/modules |
| 03:49.52 | dontmsgme | Can anyone help? |
| 03:51.12 | dontmsgme | I need to know why this Softphone registered 10 minsa go, now it wont, could it be CVS? |
| 03:52.02 | mogorman | no |
| 03:52.17 | dontmsgme | Do you work for nufone |
| 03:53.12 | DyOS | hey tzanger i found no files |
| 03:53.20 | tzanger | then the patch was not correct |
| 03:53.39 | MikeJ[Jayden] | dyos, pastebin your makefile and the patch |
| 03:53.39 | dontmsgme | Name/username Host Dyn Nat ACL Mask Port Status |
| 03:53.39 | dontmsgme | 12345/12345 207.215.252.80 D N 255.255.255.255 10001 UNREACHABLE |
| 03:53.44 | dontmsgme | WHY?!?! |
| 03:54.20 | tzanger | dontmsgme: does sip debug help you? |
| 03:55.07 | dontmsgme | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:55.07 | dontmsgme | sip: Unable to find file "debug" |
| 03:55.58 | tzanger | dontmsgme: a MODICUM of thought, please |
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| 03:56.12 | dontmsgme | Tzanger I thought you said to type sip debug in asterisk, so i did |
| 03:56.23 | tzanger | turn on sip debugging |
| 03:56.32 | dontmsgme | What is the command to turn on sip debugging? |
| 03:56.33 | tzanger | I don't use sip so I don't know the exact command |
| 03:56.52 | *** join/#asterisk slePP (~slepp@S01060040f48412ad.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 03:57.01 | tzanger | dontmsgme: as I said, a MODICUM of thought please... you should NOT be playing with asterisk if you're not willing to learn how to use it |
| 03:57.08 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ummm... it's sip debug |
| 03:57.15 | slePP | tzanger: hey.. |
| 03:57.28 | brc_ | hi ya slePP |
| 03:57.33 | MikeJ[Jayden] | in * cli, you typed it at the shell prompt I think |
| 03:57.39 | dontmsgme | Opps, yea i got it Mike |
| 03:57.43 | tzanger | dontmsgme: try help sip debug |
| 03:57.49 | tzanger | I mean come on |
| 03:58.08 | tzanger | slePP: hey |
| 03:58.26 | slePP | tzanger: found out why asterisk is reseting the B channel |
| 03:58.31 | dontmsgme | Sip debug is on |
| 03:58.36 | MikeJ[Jayden] | drink and have fun w/ #asterisk |
| 03:58.40 | tzanger | slePP: why?? |
| 03:58.41 | dontmsgme | So how do I use it? |
| 03:58.48 | file[laptop] | hi slePP |
| 03:59.04 | slePP | tzanger: in chan_zap, there is a clause |
| 03:59.10 | MikeJ[Jayden] | file! |
| 03:59.14 | file[laptop] | MikeJ! |
| 03:59.18 | sivana | tzanger: everything is good |
| 03:59.21 | NormAst | hee hee... my customers don't know I am running them over voip...using ilbc... |
| 03:59.26 | NormAst | :) |
| 03:59.31 | tzanger | NormAst: they don't know it's ILBC??! |
| 03:59.33 | sivana | except for the fact that unlimitel gets a better ping then the phone on my desk |
| 03:59.36 | tzanger | I get complaints EVERY time I use it |
| 03:59.41 | brc_ | resetting the b channels every so often is normal iirc |
| 03:59.41 | slePP | if hangup.cause == PRI_CAUSE_REQUESTED_CHAN_UNAVAIL (which is returned from the upstream telco), it causes a reset because it was 'reported in use' |
| 03:59.47 | brc_ | oh |
| 03:59.50 | tzanger | slePP: ahhh |
| 03:59.51 | brc_ | nevermind |
| 03:59.55 | NormAst | tzanger: I don't know why... no one has said anything.. |
| 03:59.57 | slePP | so, we send the call out to the upstream and pre-allocated channel 3. they reply back, 'no, channel 3 isn't available', so we reset channel 3 |
| 04:00.07 | NormAst | PRI--> GT -> Rogers -> PRI.. |
| 04:00.14 | slePP | however, channel 3 had a proper and good disconnect/release sequence a few moments earlier |
| 04:00.32 | NormAst | GT(Internet) Rogers(Internet) |
| 04:00.33 | DyOS | what does hunk succeed with fuzz 2 mean? |
| 04:00.37 | dontmsgme | Im getting tons of data through sip debug |
| 04:00.40 | sivana | tzanger: I wonder if Vianet is messing with the QoS on my circuit |
| 04:00.41 | dontmsgme | I dont understand anything |
| 04:00.47 | slePP | brc_: yes, not talking about periodic hour-interval resets. these are resets that are causing fast busies |
| 04:00.56 | tzanger | sivana: what do you kean |
| 04:00.58 | tzanger | er mean |
| 04:01.01 | brc_ | yeah yeah |
| 04:01.12 | slePP | tzanger: so i have two ideas. either we shouldn't be resetting that B channel and should just let it try again later for that channel, or our upstream is having issues in not noticing we released a channel |
| 04:01.26 | sivana | tzanger: weird stuff on the network, my phone has a ping of 64ms on the same subnet as the switch |
| 04:01.27 | dontmsgme | i NOTICE "DESTROYING CALL" |
| 04:01.33 | tzanger | slePP: I'm willing to bet it's just a timing issue |
| 04:01.33 | sivana | unlimitel gets 28ms |
| 04:01.34 | NormAst | 3 calls.... 85 kbits. |
| 04:01.35 | slePP | sivana: SIP? |
| 04:01.38 | dontmsgme | Can anyone fix this for $50 per hour |
| 04:01.41 | sivana | yes |
| 04:01.43 | NormAst | yes |
| 04:01.43 | slePP | tzanger: but timing in which area? |
| 04:01.47 | slePP | sivana: not unusual |
| 04:01.53 | NormAst | no |
| 04:01.59 | slePP | sivana: the ping's are using SIP NOTIFY methods. i find a PAP2 on a network can take 120ms sometimes, sometimes 4ms |
| 04:02.10 | slePP | since the SIP NOTIFY has to be parsed and replied to and so on. it's not an ICMP ping |
| 04:02.20 | sivana | I see |
| 04:02.22 | dontmsgme | <sivana> yes |
| 04:02.22 | dontmsgme | [20:01] <NormAst> yes |
| 04:02.24 | brc_ | dontmsgme, what's the problem? |
| 04:02.36 | slePP | tzanger: not T1 framing, i don't think, or we'd have other issues.. and the requests from channel 3 release/disconnect to re-use of channel three is about 15-20 seconds |
| 04:02.55 | MikeJ[Jayden] | you break out the wallet and cazam... you have help... look at that |
| 04:03.04 | sivana | dontmsgme: was talking to someone else.. hehe |
| 04:03.07 | slePP | tzanger: since this is an incoming call problem, it could also be that we place and reserve channel 3 at the exact moment the incoming gets channel 3.. so the two calls cancel each other out |
| 04:03.12 | tzanger | slePP: I didn't mean timing by that |
| 04:03.31 | tzanger | I meant just a timing issue where their switch won't accept a request for a channle until xms after it's been released |
| 04:03.50 | slePP | nah, that's not the case. we can fire off tons of strictly outgoing calls without a single issue |
| 04:03.59 | tzanger | slePP: that's called glare |
| 04:04.01 | slePP | i think both sides are just reserving the same switch channel |
| 04:04.18 | tzanger | ~larg brc_ |
| 04:04.20 | tzanger | er |
| 04:04.22 | slePP | we did an autodial using 20 channels, and none of this nonsense was going on, but we had 0 incoming in that session. now we're about even on in/out |
| 04:04.24 | tzanger | ~lart brc_ |
| 04:04.29 | brc_ | ~lick tzafrir |
| 04:04.31 | jbot | ACTION licks tzafrir *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 04:04.34 | tzanger | ~lart brc_ |
| 04:04.35 | brc_ | ~eat tzafrir |
| 04:04.37 | jbot | ACTION eats tzafrir and falls over dead |
| 04:04.47 | tzanger | damn I love having tzafrir in here |
| 04:04.47 | slePP | someone dcc me a cigarette. |
| 04:04.52 | brc_ | AHHA |
| 04:04.54 | brc_ | dfamnit~! |
| 04:05.02 | brc_ | ~bitchslap tzanger |
| 04:05.06 | jbot | ACTION beats the sh*t out of tzanger |
| 04:05.55 | slePP | tzanger: do you think we should try the approach of using channels 1-12 for outgoing, 13-23 for incoming, and tell our upstream to only send calls in on 13-23 first then use 1-12 if they have to? |
| 04:06.02 | slePP | or should i just be dialing G3 instead of g3.. hmmm |
| 04:06.07 | tzanger | slePP: generally they won't do that |
| 04:06.14 | slePP | so if we start at the high side instead.. |
| 04:06.23 | tzanger | slePP: the general solution is to have them allocate B chans in ascending order and you allocate them in descending order |
| 04:06.23 | slePP | and let them start at the low side |
| 04:06.27 | slePP | then we shouldn't hit each other until we near cap |
| 04:06.38 | tzanger | then you Dial(Zap/G1) and it solves glare except for when it's totally busy |
| 04:06.48 | tzanger | slePP: exactly |
| 04:07.08 | slePP | yeh |
| 04:07.14 | slePP | so it's called 'glare' in official circles? |
| 04:07.26 | tzanger | slePP: yup and in PRI it's *supposed* to be impossible but it isn't :-) |
| 04:07.36 | coppice | ah, a glaring gap in your knowledge :-) |
| 04:07.36 | slePP | i can see how it would happen |
| 04:07.49 | firestrm | what is the best codec to use for voice quality if bandwith is not much of an issue (ie internal network)? |
| 04:07.56 | brc_ | ulaw |
| 04:08.07 | coppice | tzanger: glare is impossible with PRI when it is implemented right |
| 04:08.10 | slePP | tzanger: definitely worth a try |
| 04:08.18 | firestrm | brc_, really? i get complaints about quality when i use ulaw |
| 04:08.21 | tzanger | coppice: so why are PRIs never implemented correctly? :-) |
| 04:08.23 | slePP | i don't see how glare is impossible.. |
| 04:08.28 | firestrm | ppl tell me its sounds like crap |
| 04:08.33 | tzanger | firestrm: probably because your netowrks' substandard |
| 04:08.40 | slePP | k, now i'm on the phone |
| 04:08.40 | slePP | hold |
| 04:08.41 | tzanger | firestrm: or you have osm eother problem |
| 04:08.45 | brc_ | firestrm, something is wrong then |
| 04:08.48 | tzanger | firestrm: ulaw is what the north american world runs on |
| 04:08.56 | tzanger | plain old trunks are all ulaw |
| 04:08.59 | tzanger | no voip |
| 04:08.59 | brc_ | firestrm, what tzanger said |
| 04:09.13 | firestrm | hmm.. what do you suggest i use to test network quality? |
| 04:09.20 | brc_ | firestrm, if ulaw/alaw sounds bad then your network is congested |
| 04:09.20 | coppice | tzanger: they usually are. either they don't allocate a B until it is negotiated, or they use the transparent reallocation approach. |
| 04:09.20 | brc_ | yes |
| 04:09.41 | firestrm | brc_, no its a 100mbps internal network.. |
| 04:09.43 | tzanger | coppice: ahh |
| 04:09.49 | tzanger | firestrm: that don't mean shit |
| 04:09.52 | brc_ | yep |
| 04:09.57 | brc_ | doesn't mean anything at all |
| 04:09.58 | tzanger | firestrm: I've seen MANY poor switches |
| 04:10.02 | brc_ | there's MANY things that could be wrong |
| 04:10.10 | firestrm | tzanger, how do i test the switch? |
| 04:10.16 | tzanger | firestrm: lots and lots of testing |
| 04:10.30 | tzanger | packet captures on both sides to see if what's coming out is the same as what's going in |
| 04:10.37 | tzanger | but really the simplest is to use good switches :-) |
| 04:10.51 | slePP | tzanger: i'll let you know how it works out. thanks for being a sounding board |
| 04:11.05 | firestrm | tzanger, its a netgear fs108 |
| 04:11.10 | tzanger | slePP: no worries :-) |
| 04:11.19 | tzanger | firestrm: is it possible to test without the switch |
| 04:11.24 | slePP | tzanger: :> |
| 04:11.25 | tzanger | firestrm: also are there any hdx links in there |
| 04:11.32 | firestrm | hdx? |
| 04:11.43 | NormAst | tzanger: You need a paypal account 20 questions for $20 bucks. |
| 04:11.44 | tzanger | slePP: I kind of like the oddball problems because they mean that the majority of cases work |
| 04:11.48 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 04:11.56 | slePP | yeh |
| 04:11.57 | tzanger | NormAst: nah just buy me drinks at the torastricon meets |
| 04:12.01 | slePP | oddball problems suck ass on live boxes, tohugh :P |
| 04:12.04 | firestrm | hey, i would pay.. |
| 04:12.14 | tzanger | my answers get more interesting as the night goes on |
| 04:12.19 | slePP | beeeeeeeeeeeeeer |
| 04:12.21 | NormAst | your telling me.... |
| 04:12.24 | tzanger | always technically sound but usually interjected with useless tidbits of information |
| 04:12.32 | firestrm | you guys are the best channel for getting intelegent answers |
| 04:12.34 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 04:12.37 | dontmsgme | Is anyone here fro Nufone tech support |
| 04:12.38 | tzanger | NormAst: come now I'm not that bad |
| 04:12.45 | tzanger | dontmsgme: not me, I just use them |
| 04:12.47 | NormAst | hee hee hee |
| 04:13.08 | tzanger | dontmsgme: email support@nufone.net and if you don't get a HUMAN answer within 24h M-F then come in here and find jerjer and give him the ticket # and he'll knock some skulls together |
| 04:13.12 | coppice | tzanger: and separating the whimsical answers from the straight ones is left as an exercise for the reader :-) |
| 04:13.24 | tzanger | coppice: ahh see you know exactly what i'm all about |
| 04:13.56 | firestrm | tzanger, what is hdx? |
| 04:14.05 | tzanger | half duplex |
| 04:14.13 | tzanger | firestrm: are any of the links autonegotiated? |
| 04:14.17 | NormAst | tzanger: sangoma has put HDLC on there cards now... !!! Beta testing next week.. |
| 04:14.18 | tzanger | firestrm: what network cards do you use |
| 04:14.24 | tzanger | firestrm: what's the upstream like |
| 04:14.54 | tzanger | NormAst: right on :-) and I have heard some better news about interop with digium (politically) too ... hopefully we can see some real good stuff soon |
| 04:15.14 | tzanger | firestrm: are you "pushing" the network anywhere |
| 04:15.20 | firestrm | tzanger, from what i can tell 2 are hdx |
| 04:15.24 | tzanger | firestrm: these are all questions you need good solid and CORRECT answers to |
| 04:15.33 | NormAst | tzanger: I was at sangoma office on thursday.. They have some good stuff happening... I can't wait.. |
| 04:15.42 | firestrm | tzanger, thanks.. i will investigate |
| 04:15.46 | nix000 | NormAst: what is happening ? |
| 04:15.49 | tzanger | not assumptions... every time I assume something I am so convinced I'm okay with it that I cost myself unnecesary headaches when they turn out wrong |
| 04:16.14 | firestrm | tzanger, what do you mean by "pushing the network"? |
| 04:16.25 | NormAst | nix000: They getting there cards to handle more of the CPU stuff... echo, HDLC... etc.. |
| 04:16.38 | tzanger | firestrm: heavy packet activity, large packets, "screamers", stuff like that |
| 04:16.55 | coppice | tzanger: is that like "pushing the envelope", which means you are a postman? :-) |
| 04:17.09 | tzanger | anyone hear any more of atacomm's card? That looked really interesting |
| 04:17.14 | firestrm | tzanger, like p2p streaming.. not really. just irc,web,email |
| 04:17.18 | nix000 | NormAst: how is their support for ss7 ? |
| 04:17.21 | tzanger | coppice :-) I'm no postman, I just tinker |
| 04:17.30 | bparker | is there something specific I have to do to get IAX to pass dtmf tones |
| 04:17.34 | coppice | tzanger: ipvolution.com has disappeared for over a month |
| 04:17.35 | *** join/#asterisk ChrisOZ (~ChrisOZ@c211-30-43-109.mirnd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 04:17.39 | tzanger | firestrm: are you sure? Got packet dumps that match? snort logs? |
| 04:17.41 | NormAst | nix000: There cards can due ss7....Asterisk can't. |
| 04:17.46 | tzanger | oh dear |
| 04:17.57 | tzanger | I wonder if hte people who preordered cards prepaid too |
| 04:18.08 | coppice | NormAst: Asterisk does SS7 just fine |
| 04:18.22 | brc_ | =P |
| 04:18.31 | firestrm | tzanger, wonder if my router would telle me.. |
| 04:18.33 | NormAst | really...?? I don't use SS7... I learn new stuff every day.... I love it.! |
| 04:18.34 | tzanger | coppice: I keep telling you I'm getting close to being able to locate when wctdm went "bad" |
| 04:18.40 | tzanger | firestrm: dunno, it's your router |
| 04:18.56 | nix000 | NormAst: how would you compare digium cards to sangoma ? the quad t1/e1 ? |
| 04:19.06 | tzanger | normast's biased... :-) |
| 04:19.26 | nix000 | tzanger: because of ? |
| 04:19.27 | coppice | ~seen atacomm |
| 04:19.29 | jbot | atacomm <~dan@69.54.45.98> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 45d 2h 22m 36s ago, saying: 'anyone want a IP 3000 conference phone? looking to replace ours with a IP 4000 model. Barely been used, in great condition.... looking for around $500'. |
| 04:19.29 | NormAst | :)... I personally like sangoma's card.. 5 Volt and 3.3 volt.. |
| 04:19.49 | tzanger | digium's cards work well if the system matches what Digium thinks it should be like... sangoma's cards are very nice, I haven't seen a quad port one but I have used some of their A101/102us and they work well |
| 04:20.07 | tzanger | of course I use their S518 ASDL PCI cards... kick ass |
| 04:20.09 | NormAst | Got 2 of there Quad cards.. |
| 04:20.34 | NormAst | I've got Digium Quad cards for sale $995.00 US |
| 04:20.42 | NormAst | used. |
| 04:21.03 | nix000 | NormAst: you are getting rid of them in favor of sangoma ? |
| 04:21.10 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ~docs |
| 04:21.11 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 04:21.11 | firestrm | tzanger, hdx connection on the same switch as * box bad? |
| 04:21.13 | NormAst | yup. |
| 04:21.33 | tzanger | firestrm: generally no but hdx is to be avoided for any realtime two-way convo |
| 04:21.45 | NormAst | Sangoma is just around the conner from me. |
| 04:21.50 | nix000 | NormAst: i am really interested in the ss7 support in sangoma cards. Cheapest gw i found so far excpet ... |
| 04:21.59 | tzanger | yes I like the fact they're canadian and their engineering and support are both in canada |
| 04:22.04 | nix000 | NormAst: you are in toronto ? |
| 04:22.09 | NormAst | yup. |
| 04:22.20 | tzanger | NormAst sets people up with lavalife |
| 04:22.26 | NormAst | he haha ha hah |
| 04:22.30 | NormAst | 416-778-5555 |
| 04:22.48 | coppice | nix000: do you know who's SS7 stack sangoma use? a couple of moths ago they were asking about using ours. |
| 04:22.48 | NormAst | nix000: www.tollfreetelecom.ca |
| 04:23.21 | nix000 | coppice: you are from which company ? i am very new in here. |
| 04:23.22 | tzanger | NormAst: is lavalife a customer or just a handy test #? |
| 04:23.34 | NormAst | Handy test # |
| 04:23.44 | coppice | nix000: oh, i'm just me :-) |
| 04:23.50 | tzanger | coppice = steven underwood = softdsp guru extraordinaire |
| 04:23.59 | MikeJ[Jayden] | 248-262-6861 |
| 04:24.05 | MikeJ[Jayden] | now that's a test number |
| 04:24.06 | coppice | stephen actually |
| 04:24.19 | tzanger | coppice: oops, records updated |
| 04:24.21 | mogorman | hey coppice just out of curiosity at some point will all that spandsp stuff and r2 stuff get into the cvs? |
| 04:24.28 | nix000 | coppice: i heard they are doing stuff with the ss7box.com folks. |
| 04:24.33 | NormAst | Honda's Tokyo headquarters number is 011-81-3-3423-1111 |
| 04:24.36 | brc_ | slePP, slePP |
| 04:24.40 | NormAst | test # |
| 04:24.45 | coppice | spandsp won't go into *, because it is GPL |
| 04:24.49 | tzanger | MikeJ[Jayden]: heh I use 4124920943, its' our parent company's ivr |
| 04:24.54 | firestrm | oh crap.. my spa3k is hdx!! how retarded |
| 04:25.06 | mogorman | and r2? |
| 04:25.09 | MikeJ[Jayden] | tzanger, call that # |
| 04:25.16 | firestrm | that might explain much.. |
| 04:25.17 | coppice | R2 is also GPL |
| 04:25.21 | nix000 | NormAst: I really whish i could get my hands on the sangoma cards for their ss7 support. have you seen any other card in the market in the same price range ? |
| 04:25.28 | mogorman | okies |
| 04:25.45 | MikeJ[Jayden] | nix, there is ss7 support on digium cards... |
| 04:25.56 | tzanger | MikeJ[Jayden]: all circuits busy |
| 04:25.57 | NormAst | nix000: no... They talked to me about SS7 and how timing critical it was.. etc etc... blah blah.. |
| 04:26.00 | MikeJ[Jayden] | for sysmaster |
| 04:26.01 | coppice | I will submit the app_rxfax and app_txfax stuff soon. I don't mind making those non-GPL. The spandsp library that does all the work is GPL |
| 04:26.04 | nix000 | MikeJ[Jayden]: !!! |
| 04:26.11 | MikeJ[Jayden] | not * |
| 04:26.18 | mogorman | ss7 is the holy grail |
| 04:26.27 | nix000 | MikeJ[Jayden]: it is (well) supported |
| 04:26.48 | coppice | nix000: the sangoma cards really have no more or less SS7 support than the Digium ones |
| 04:27.02 | MikeJ[Jayden] | some eastern uropean guys wrote teh sysmaster ss7 support.... somone was working on them to write it for *... |
| 04:27.09 | nix000 | MikeJ[Jayden]: i mean is it working or it is marketing fluf ? |
| 04:27.15 | firestrm | tzanger, i guess my spa3k running hdx would probbly explain much |
| 04:27.16 | MikeJ[Jayden] | no word yet |
| 04:27.19 | NormAst | coppice: I don't know... is digium SS7 done in hardware... |
| 04:27.21 | mogorman | yeah, my understanding is they are just as dumb as digium hardware |
| 04:27.22 | tzanger | firestrm: not really |
| 04:27.23 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ummmm... I am told it works |
| 04:27.26 | Shido6 | glad you brought up sysmaster |
| 04:27.26 | tzanger | firestrm: it's a possibility |
| 04:27.28 | mogorman | no |
| 04:27.30 | tzanger | but dou btful |
| 04:27.34 | Shido6 | when asked about ss7 for digium |
| 04:27.37 | mogorman | digium and sangoma cards are both dumb |
| 04:27.44 | mogorman | everything in software |
| 04:27.46 | coppice | NormAst: sangoma's SS7 is done in software, just like Digium's |
| 04:27.50 | MikeJ[Jayden] | it would be in zaptel |
| 04:27.51 | Shido6 | which means ppl are starting to accept that sysmaster is using the s/w and the h/w |
| 04:27.57 | tzanger | mogorman: yeah but sangoma cards can be much smarter |
| 04:28.01 | mogorman | yeah |
| 04:28.02 | NormAst | mogorman: No..they have this gate thingy... |
| 04:28.04 | mogorman | but they want zaptel |
| 04:28.08 | mogorman | so they are running dumb |
| 04:28.26 | mogorman | if they wrote chan_sangoma |
| 04:28.29 | MikeJ[Jayden] | fpgc? |
| 04:28.29 | mogorman | they would be fine |
| 04:28.37 | coppice | NormAst: everyone has a gate thingy :-) |
| 04:28.39 | MikeJ[Jayden] | gate thingy? |
| 04:28.41 | tzanger | mogorman: my mentor taught me that you should only design things to be as smart as necessary and no smarter, as they will use the excess to turn around and fuck you |
| 04:28.48 | NormAst | yea..Gate thingy.. |
| 04:28.51 | tzanger | mogorman: and I swear truer words have never haunted my design career |
| 04:29.10 | MikeJ[Jayden] | sleepy time. |
| 04:29.14 | tzanger | agree |
| 04:29.15 | mogorman | umm right, i am retarded and dont completely understand depth of comment ^_^ |
| 04:29.19 | NormAst | tzanger: Sorry about that... whole gate thingy... What's it called? |
| 04:29.24 | tzanger | NormAst: eh? |
| 04:29.26 | tzanger | porchlight.ca/ |
| 04:29.26 | tzanger | ? |
| 04:29.29 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ok, quick quiz, how long does it take to get a did from nufone. |
| 04:29.45 | nvrs | 2 mins |
| 04:29.49 | MikeJ[Jayden] | wrong |
| 04:29.51 | coppice | every modern E1/T1 card has an FPGA (nee gate thingy) |
| 04:29.54 | nvrs | 5 seconds |
| 04:29.55 | tzanger | MikeJ[Jayden]: I've never gotten one :-) I do termination with them only |
| 04:29.57 | MikeJ[Jayden] | wrong |
| 04:29.58 | nvrs | no waity |
| 04:29.59 | nvrs | instant |
| 04:30.02 | MikeJ[Jayden] | wrong |
| 04:30.03 | nvrs | yah that was it |
| 04:30.04 | mogorman | heh |
| 04:30.08 | NormAst | That's it coppice... |
| 04:30.09 | Qwell | MikeJ[Jayden]: 7-10 days, if you get a vanity tollfree |
| 04:30.09 | nvrs | toll free is instant at least |
| 04:30.10 | NormAst | FPGA.. |
| 04:30.10 | tzanger | coppice: true but sangoma's seems to be updateable from the driver |
| 04:30.13 | nix000 | MikeJ[Jayden]: where does it say that digium supports ss7 ? |
| 04:30.24 | MikeJ[Jayden] | it doesn't |
| 04:30.26 | mogorman | we dont |
| 04:30.26 | nvrs | ahh |
| 04:30.29 | MikeJ[Jayden] | it's in the sysmaster |
| 04:30.31 | nvrs | random toll frees are instant |
| 04:30.33 | mogorman | some people have an ss7 stack |
| 04:30.39 | mogorman | but no one has a public one |
| 04:30.42 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ummm |
| 04:30.45 | coppice | nix000: I say SS7 can run with * |
| 04:30.46 | mogorman | i thought you were using one coppice |
| 04:30.51 | tzanger | coppice: and I gave kram a great idea to get 5V/3V in the same card without ruffling Xilinx' feathers |
| 04:30.55 | MikeJ[Jayden] | not true, there is a ss7 for sale for * |
| 04:30.57 | NormAst | sangoma uses a different FPGA than digium. |
| 04:31.04 | mogorman | yeah it is smarter |
| 04:31.04 | nix000 | coppice: i just need a card that supports ss7 or R2 !!! |
| 04:31.08 | mogorman | but they dumb down |
| 04:31.10 | tzanger | nix000: both do |
| 04:31.11 | mogorman | to work in zaptel |
| 04:31.19 | mogorman | yeah |
| 04:31.27 | mogorman | cards are dumb drivers good |
| 04:31.32 | MikeJ[Jayden] | I think it's steve U's company.. one sec |
| 04:31.33 | brc_ | hahaha |
| 04:31.37 | mogorman | but who has ss7 stack these days that sell? |
| 04:31.38 | coppice | nix000: * supports R2 as well |
| 04:31.43 | MikeJ[Jayden] | one sec |
| 04:31.46 | mogorman | i thought you did coppice |
| 04:31.46 | NormAst | sangoma wants to get rid of the Zaptel driver... |
| 04:31.50 | mogorman | heh |
| 04:31.51 | mogorman | maybe |
| 04:31.53 | tzanger | rejection hotline, hahaha |
| 04:31.54 | nix000 | tzanger: where did you see that digium supports ss7 ? |
| 04:31.57 | nvrs | whats the cheapest route to go for a single FXS port or ATA if you just want a single analog phone? |
| 04:31.58 | NormAst | and create there own channel driver. |
| 04:31.59 | mogorman | but they are happy to piggy back off our work |
| 04:32.01 | brc_ | nix000, hahahha |
| 04:32.03 | tzanger | nix000: coppice just said so |
| 04:32.09 | brc_ | pay attention |
| 04:32.24 | coppice | NormAst: I told sangoma not to use the zaptel stuff when they started. I think they now realise that was the right approach |
| 04:32.30 | mogorman | i think sangoma wants to have own channel driver |
| 04:32.34 | mogorman | just not ready to do it |
| 04:32.36 | MikeJ[Jayden] | We have SS7 for Asterisk. It was shown at Digium's stand at the VON |
| 04:32.37 | MikeJ[Jayden] | show. It is not a part of the Asterisk distribution itself. However, it |
| 04:32.37 | MikeJ[Jayden] | does fully integrate with Asterisk. |
| 04:32.40 | firestrm | tzanger, next question (i guess i owe you 2 beer now :) is there an accepted test method to set the gains incoming and outgoing? |
| 04:32.41 | tzanger | mogorman: chan_san.so |
| 04:32.49 | NormAst | coppice: I think so. |
| 04:32.50 | tzanger | firestrm: gains on what |
| 04:32.55 | mogorman | is it real yet? |
| 04:32.57 | MikeJ[Jayden] | yeah, steve underwood has one to sell |
| 04:32.59 | brc_ | MikeJ[Jayden], is that a quote from somewhere? |
| 04:33.01 | firestrm | tzanger, spa3k and x100p |
| 04:33.09 | MikeJ[Jayden] | y, -dev list |
| 04:33.15 | NormAst | firestrm: ztmonitor |
| 04:33.18 | MikeJ[Jayden] | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2005-March/010182.html |
| 04:33.22 | tzanger | firestrm: dont' know for those, fxotune and zttest were meant for wctdm I thought (TDM4xxP) |
| 04:33.31 | MikeJ[Jayden] | there you go, bring your cash, and you have * w/ ssz |
| 04:33.33 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ss7 |
| 04:33.37 | mogorman | man fxotune is holy grail for killing impedance problems |
| 04:33.58 | firestrm | mogorman, doesnt work on x100p |
| 04:34.01 | firestrm | :( |
| 04:34.04 | mogorman | heh |
| 04:34.04 | MikeJ[Jayden] | mogorman, or don't use fxo's |
| 04:34.12 | mogorman | lol |
| 04:34.32 | mogorman | I can feel pretty honest in saying fxos are good now |
| 04:34.37 | mogorman | if not great |
| 04:34.41 | mogorman | but i hate analog lines |
| 04:34.46 | mogorman | so i would rather people get pris |
| 04:34.47 | firestrm | MikeJ[Jayden], if i could get did/dod here i would go that route in a sec |
| 04:34.54 | tzanger | I want to play with BRI in Canada |
| 04:35.02 | tzanger | mostly to fuck with the Norstar systems |
| 04:35.05 | mogorman | i hear canadian pri price is insane |
| 04:35.08 | firestrm | yes |
| 04:35.11 | tzanger | mogorman: they are unless you're normast |
| 04:35.14 | firestrm | better to go t1 |
| 04:35.14 | slePP | mogorman: pretty much, yes |
| 04:35.22 | mogorman | taxation sucks... |
| 04:35.22 | nvrs | how much? |
| 04:35.26 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ok, so everyones like ss7 is the holy grail blah, blah, blah... I tell them where to get it, and everyone just ignores me, cuz it's not free... listen you cheap asees, nothing in life is free |
| 04:35.30 | slePP | ours is $1400 from one carrier |
| 04:35.32 | slePP | $1200 from another |
| 04:35.37 | mogorman | lol |
| 04:35.38 | tzanger | MikeJ[Jayden]: hahaha |
| 04:35.39 | mogorman | people are cheap |
| 04:35.40 | NormAst | tzanger: On BRI.. yes please... ... Please please... |
| 04:35.48 | nix000 | MikeJ[Jayden]: who is behind the ss7 stack ? you ? |
| 04:35.50 | tzanger | NormAst: where would YOU use BRI?? |
| 04:35.59 | tzanger | nix000: FOR FUCK SAKES, **READ** |
| 04:36.03 | tzanger | nix000: coppice |
| 04:36.05 | dontmsgme | Mar 19 20:26:34 NOTICE[27657]: app_dial.c:936 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'IAX2' (cause 3) |
| 04:36.05 | dontmsgme | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.06 | tzanger | nix000: coppice |
| 04:36.06 | dontmsgme | Why?? |
| 04:36.06 | tzanger | nix000: coppice |
| 04:36.07 | tzanger | nix000: coppice |
| 04:36.08 | tzanger | nix000: coppice |
| 04:36.11 | mogorman | who really is behind ss7 stack? Not the Sysmaster one? |
| 04:36.11 | tzanger | jesus christ |
| 04:36.17 | mogorman | coppice? |
| 04:36.21 | NormAst | tzanger: BRI is much faster then Digitial Centrex.... |
| 04:36.21 | mogorman | lol |
| 04:36.28 | firestrm | tzanger where i dont see him |
| 04:36.32 | tzanger | NormAst: ahhh yeah but what's Bell charge for BRI |
| 04:36.36 | mogorman | who makes the bri cards? |
| 04:36.36 | MikeJ[Jayden] | nix, read the link.. |
| 04:36.50 | NormAst | tzanger: 2B $80 bucks,... |
| 04:36.51 | tzanger | mogorman: no idea, I want to find one that'd work in Canada |
| 04:36.52 | nix000 | coppice: we need to talk ! |
| 04:36.53 | MikeJ[Jayden] | any linuxisdn card works |
| 04:36.54 | tzanger | NormAst: really |
| 04:36.56 | tzanger | that is NOT bad |
| 04:36.58 | tzanger | at all |
| 04:37.00 | NormAst | yea.. |
| 04:37.00 | tzanger | wow |
| 04:37.02 | tzanger | like really |
| 04:37.04 | tzanger | wow |
| 04:37.21 | NormAst | I would really like to get BRI running..... It's 40 bucks a channel.. |
| 04:37.30 | tzanger | MikeJ[Jayden]: I thought the LinuxISDN cards all had euro firmware on them |
| 04:37.30 | brc_ | BWHSHAHAHAHAHA |
| 04:37.30 | NormAst | with cheap BRI cards.. |
| 04:37.31 | mogorman | damn, man i want a pri |
| 04:37.38 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ummm |
| 04:37.40 | mogorman | but 500 a month |
| 04:37.41 | MikeJ[Jayden] | i dunno |
| 04:37.44 | mogorman | is expensive... |
| 04:37.59 | mogorman | i need some easy business |
| 04:38.05 | MikeJ[Jayden] | I havve a lot of pri's... they are really nothing special, just more chans |
| 04:38.05 | mogorman | to lease out lines |
| 04:38.05 | nix000 | MikeJ[Jayden]: the link only mentions someone named steve ! |
| 04:38.16 | NormAst | morgorman: Where do you live? I can sell you some DS0's in Toronto. |
| 04:38.17 | MikeJ[Jayden] | yeah.. |
| 04:38.22 | mogorman | i live in alabama... |
| 04:38.26 | MikeJ[Jayden] | steve, email him |
| 04:38.31 | tzanger | ~lart nix000 |
| 04:38.34 | mogorman | but dont care where box is |
| 04:38.37 | MikeJ[Jayden] | mogorman, is that a song |
| 04:38.37 | tzanger | jbot you need a bigger cluebat |
| 04:38.49 | mogorman | i just need a 1 you server and a te1110p |
| 04:38.53 | mogorman | lol |
| 04:39.00 | tzanger | 1 you |
| 04:39.01 | tzanger | hahahahaha |
| 04:39.04 | MikeJ[Jayden] | 1 you.. |
| 04:39.05 | nix000 | tzanger: i just tried communicating with coppice .. you should read as well ! |
| 04:39.12 | mogorman | damn auto spell |
| 04:39.16 | mogorman | i didnt even notice it |
| 04:39.25 | NormAst | Auto spell.. I need that! |
| 04:40.06 | mogorman | yeah it is useful but sometimes you really want to type certain words/letters |
| 04:40.07 | tzanger | nix000: all you said was you need to talk... Idid read that |
| 04:40.27 | nix000 | coppice: ping |
| 04:40.49 | tzanger | I need a 1 you server with that Pee Are Eye thinger attached, can you hook a brother up? |
| 04:40.53 | mogorman | anyone know how much a t1 cost with all longdistance covered for states? |
| 04:40.58 | MikeJ[Jayden] | nix, email steve... his address is in that link, he can hook you up |
| 04:40.59 | mogorman | lol |
| 04:41.02 | mogorman | not that badd... |
| 04:41.08 | tzanger | mogorman: depends on the telco, you have to call around |
| 04:41.09 | ChrisOZ | does anyone here have a successfull asterisk box setup and working the way they want it to? |
| 04:41.16 | mogorman | bellsouth |
| 04:41.20 | mogorman | is closest |
| 04:41.31 | MikeJ[Jayden] | mogorman, I dunno if you could get an unlimited ld t1 |
| 04:41.41 | tzanger | mogorman: closest means shit unless you're talking loop costs |
| 04:41.49 | mogorman | well what is per minute then |
| 04:41.49 | tzanger | you won't get unlimted ld t1 |
| 04:41.57 | mogorman | closest? |
| 04:42.19 | tzanger | I'm looking for a closet t1 |
| 04:42.19 | tzanger | heh |
| 04:42.23 | MikeJ[Jayden] | mogorman, what bell? |
| 04:42.27 | mogorman | south |
| 04:42.28 | tzanger | one that is in my closet with no loop costs |
| 04:42.33 | MikeJ[Jayden] | your fucked |
| 04:42.42 | tzanger | my fucked what |
| 04:42.43 | MikeJ[Jayden] | bunch of crooks. |
| 04:42.49 | mogorman | hmm well i dont need the box here |
| 04:42.56 | mogorman | i just need colo space somewhere |
| 04:42.58 | MikeJ[Jayden] | mogorman has to deal w/ bell south... |
| 04:42.59 | tzanger | wow quarter to 12 |
| 04:43.01 | tzanger | I should go to sleep |
| 04:43.06 | MikeJ[Jayden] | me to |
| 04:43.10 | nix000 | MikeJ[Jayden]: how would i go if i want to test ss7 ? any similators ppl use against the digium cards ? |
| 04:43.12 | ChrisOZ | Anyone here got a TDM400 setup with the 22B option and got the inbound and outbound happening happy? |
| 04:43.15 | MikeJ[Jayden] | but my sheets are in the wash |
| 04:43.26 | MikeJ[Jayden] | nix, email steve |
| 04:43.29 | tzanger | MikeJ[Jayden]: I didn't need to know that |
| 04:43.33 | mogorman | go to digium web page |
| 04:43.37 | mogorman | documentation |
| 04:43.37 | NormAst | ChrisOZ: I want to get it working... Have you? |
| 04:43.40 | mogorman | its there chris |
| 04:43.42 | MikeJ[Jayden] | hehe |
| 04:43.46 | MikeJ[Jayden] | nothng dirty... |
| 04:43.58 | tzanger | my blanket smells like this girl I've just started seeing |
| 04:43.58 | coppice | nix000: what's up? |
| 04:44.09 | tzanger | she and her kdis were up today |
| 04:44.20 | tzanger | she's one of the few women who I feel know how to wear perfume |
| 04:44.21 | ChrisOZ | NormAst: Nope, I can get the handsets with dialtone but it dies when i press any button other from 0. |
| 04:44.23 | coppice | tzanger: you date someone who smells? :-\ |
| 04:44.27 | tzanger | coppice: hahaha |
| 04:44.30 | ChrisOZ | NormAst: Was kinda wondering what i'm doing wrong. |
| 04:44.38 | nix000 | coppice: we need the ss7 stack ... |
| 04:44.46 | NormAst | hmm.... don't know. |
| 04:44.52 | ChrisOZ | NormAst: Wish there was 1 resource for info about the asterisk conf files that didn't contradict or leave parts out. |
| 04:44.54 | NormAst | Tzanger: Did you find her at 416-778-5555 |
| 04:44.57 | NormAst | ha ha ha ha |
| 04:45.01 | tzanger | NormAst: no |
| 04:45.04 | coppice | the R2 stuff is GPL. SS7 is commercial |
| 04:45.07 | tzanger | found her at a starbucks in kitchener |
| 04:45.07 | NormAst | he e hee hee |
| 04:45.13 | tzanger | she's romanian |
| 04:45.17 | tzanger | the damn accent did me in |
| 04:45.33 | nix000 | coppice: is the R2 stuff bundled with asterisk ? |
| 04:45.35 | NormAst | are you going to bring her to the TO meeting? |
| 04:45.43 | NormAst | That's the true test. |
| 04:45.43 | mogorman | no |
| 04:45.49 | mogorman | you have to get it at opencall.org |
| 04:45.52 | coppice | nix00: The R2 stuff cannot be bundled with *. It is GPL |
| 04:45.55 | tzanger | her driving's a little erratic though so the first thing I had her teach me in Romanian was "te rog nu ma omori" |
| 04:46.01 | tzanger | which means "please don't kill me" |
| 04:46.08 | NormAst | ha ha .. |
| 04:46.10 | tzanger | NormAst: not yet |
| 04:46.13 | AgiNamu | hey, how can I use DDD to debug a .so? |
| 04:46.28 | nix000 | coppice: where is it at ? is it in circulation for a while ? |
| 04:46.32 | tzanger | triple Ds? jesus christ man she'll be tripping over them when she's 60 |
| 04:46.37 | mogorman | opencall.org |
| 04:46.40 | mogorman | yes |
| 04:46.41 | MikeJ[Jayden] | I'd say if the first thing you learned in her native toung is please don't kill me, the relationship is off to a rocky start |
| 04:46.46 | mogorman | lol |
| 04:46.48 | tzanger | MikeJ[Jayden]: hahaha |
| 04:46.55 | mikegrb | tzanger: !!! |
| 04:46.57 | nix000 | coppice: we still need some more things if you do not mind speaking in private. |
| 04:47.01 | tzanger | mikegrb: what |
| 04:47.03 | mikegrb | tzanger: you live near kitchener? |
| 04:47.06 | coppice | nix000: you can get it from soft-switch.org (used to be opencall.org, but HP want that name) |
| 04:47.08 | tzanger | mikegrb: yes |
| 04:47.24 | mikegrb | :O |
| 04:47.25 | tzanger | what |
| 04:47.37 | mogorman | they are moving away |
| 04:47.39 | nix000 | coppice: how stable is this stuff ? |
| 04:47.42 | mogorman | from opencall? |
| 04:47.55 | mogorman | very |
| 04:48.08 | tzanger | damn there's some nice boob picks on fark |
| 04:48.16 | MikeJ[Jayden] | nix thinks ss7 is only the holy grail if it does not cost anything??? |
| 04:48.21 | tzanger | just under the 'etc' column too, not the [boobies] articles |
| 04:48.32 | mogorman | heh |
| 04:48.48 | NormAst | tzanger: How's the IAX2 jitter buffer testing going.. Done yet? |
| 04:48.54 | tzanger | NormAst: it's in CVS HEAD now |
| 04:48.57 | tzanger | it is awesome |
| 04:48.59 | tzanger | truly awesome |
| 04:49.03 | mogorman | yeah it is |
| 04:49.04 | NormAst | cool... |
| 04:49.07 | tzanger | little bug if you're using trunking but man it rocks |
| 04:49.07 | mogorman | but default to off |
| 04:49.12 | tzanger | mogorman: exactly |
| 04:49.18 | nix000 | MikeJ[Jayden]: this has to be solid period. if it takes licensing we are ready for it ! |
| 04:49.20 | tzanger | that was done intentionally |
| 04:49.26 | NormAst | any thing I can playwith? set jitterbuffer XXX |
| 04:49.49 | mogorman | like all new asterisk features |
| 04:49.56 | MikeJ[Jayden] | what is your application? |
| 04:50.14 | tzanger | NormAst: cvs -z1 co asterisk and make and make install, then edit codecs.conf to add [plc] genericplc=yes |
| 04:50.15 | nix000 | MikeJ[Jayden]: i tend to like gpl stuff since i canp play with the goods and figure it out myself ! |
| 04:50.17 | tzanger | that's it |
| 04:50.23 | coppice | nix000: the R2 stuff is in heavy use in South America. The only reported problem wih the current version is very occassion channel foul up (one in a few thousand calls) for calls which are dialed back into the same E1 and bridged. I haven't figured that one out yet. its probably something critical about the timing of the two party's actions. |
| 04:50.30 | NormAst | K |
| 04:50.32 | tzanger | the jitter buffer autotunes almost everything |
| 04:50.51 | tzanger | the only thing I play with is maxjitterbuffer=500 instead of the default of 1000 |
| 04:51.19 | coppice | nix000: the foul ups can be cleared by forced clears, without restarting *. They also seem to get cleared by *'s regular starts on idle trunks |
| 04:51.45 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ok, what are you trying to do? |
| 04:51.55 | tzanger | you want to know what's weird |
| 04:52.01 | mogorman | what is weird... |
| 04:52.06 | MikeJ[Jayden] | yes! |
| 04:52.07 | tzanger | I can reload chan_iax2.so with IAX2 call sin progress |
| 04:52.51 | nix000 | MikeJ[Jayden] : we have to interface with legacy hardware colocated in a telco. so failure is not an option or all the fingers will be pointed at us. the equipment supports R2 & ss7. |
| 04:53.26 | MikeJ[Jayden] | so this is just for the interface, not any advanced pbx functionality? |
| 04:53.34 | tzanger | I love fark comments |
| 04:53.37 | tzanger | Menstruation helps women live longer than men. Also helps lawn getting mowed and underwear picked up off the floor |
| 04:54.01 | mogorman | lol |
| 04:54.11 | mogorman | i dont think i have ever gone to fark.com |
| 04:54.34 | tzanger | I get addicted to it then get bored of it .. it's a cycle |
| 04:54.41 | nix000 | coppice: this is for an african country. do you have people deploying this stuff in there yet ? |
| 04:54.43 | mogorman | lol |
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| 04:55.05 | brc_ | ROFLMAO |
| 04:55.31 | tzanger | this whole feeding tube shit makes me glad I have my DNR signed and registered at the hospital |
| 04:55.34 | coppice | nix000: no. every country's R2 tends to be a little different. My code supports about 15 versions. Only a few have been thoroughly tested so far |
| 04:55.41 | bkw_ | haha |
| 04:56.05 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ok, so this is the second time this week I see somone trying to use * where somthing like a cisco would be much better suited..... |
| 04:56.08 | bkw_ | lalalalalalalalala |
| 04:56.09 | MikeJ[Jayden] | haha? |
| 04:56.21 | bkw_ | MikeJ[Jayden], what? |
| 04:56.22 | brc_ | dum deee duu dum |
| 04:56.25 | bkw_ | cisco better suited? |
| 04:56.25 | bkw_ | where? |
| 04:56.26 | mogorman | bkw_ you have joined us |
| 04:56.27 | bkw_ | what? |
| 04:56.27 | bkw_ | do tell |
| 04:56.37 | bkw_ | I gotta hear this |
| 04:56.42 | bkw_ | are we doing a bug smashing session? |
| 04:56.53 | mogorman | i was about to go look |
| 04:56.54 | MikeJ[Jayden] | he is trying to use * as an ss7 gateway basically |
| 04:57.00 | mogorman | but it is pretty bad |
| 04:57.01 | bkw_ | chan_sip went thru a bumpy ride I see |
| 04:57.04 | MikeJ[Jayden] | I just don't see * as a gateway |
| 04:57.09 | bkw_ | I do |
| 04:57.16 | mogorman | 91 is a good number |
| 04:57.18 | bkw_ | not SS7 |
| 04:57.26 | mogorman | damn fire fox died... |
| 04:57.27 | bkw_ | now if we just had an open source ss7 |
| 04:57.28 | tzanger | eww kimchi |
| 04:57.31 | MikeJ[Jayden] | steve is going to disagre with you on that |
| 04:57.42 | bkw_ | I might personally pay them programmers over there where zoa is to write one |
| 04:57.45 | MikeJ[Jayden] | not with any sort of load about 4 pri's |
| 04:57.51 | bkw_ | he said it would take about 3 months to get one |
| 04:58.02 | mogorman | would you disclaim though ^_* |
| 04:58.12 | bkw_ | mogorman, if digium helped pay the bill |
| 04:58.23 | mogorman | heh call kram |
| 04:58.35 | bkw_ | greg already said we would all talk about it |
| 04:58.36 | nix000 | bkw_: i am surprised no one ever asked for this ! |
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| 04:58.52 | MikeJ[Jayden] | asked for ss7, every day |
| 04:58.53 | brc_ | hahahahha |
| 04:58.53 | mogorman | yeah, lol |
| 04:58.54 | bkw_ | well an ss7 stack for asterisk already exists |
| 04:58.55 | brc_ | rofl |
| 04:58.57 | mogorman | nix000 |
| 04:59.01 | bkw_ | but its not free nor open source |
| 04:59.04 | mogorman | people have been on this for a long time |
| 04:59.15 | mogorman | you are not the first person who wants free ss7 |
| 04:59.16 | NormAst | Is SS7 expensive to get from the Telco? |
| 04:59.17 | bkw_ | but those people fail to put $$$ where their mouth is |
| 04:59.19 | brc_ | if you need ss7, I bet the cost to license steve's is negligible compared to the savings |
| 04:59.23 | MikeJ[Jayden] | break out the cash, and it will be there in head |
| 04:59.28 | mogorman | if you want ss7 go buy it at the moment |
| 04:59.32 | nix000 | mogorman: i just realized there was a commercial version ! |
| 04:59.48 | mogorman | you need to get in the loop then... ^_^ |
| 04:59.50 | tzanger | SS7 over T1/E1 though... I thought most SS7 links were IMT |
| 04:59.56 | bkw_ | I can't stand an non-open src one |
| 05:00.08 | mogorman | neither can i. |
| 05:00.15 | bkw_ | i'm an all or none guy |
| 05:00.19 | mogorman | i want as little closed source crap in asterisk as anything |
| 05:00.24 | mogorman | no g729 for you bkw_... |
| 05:00.25 | MikeJ[Jayden] | I hear that about you ;) |
| 05:00.25 | nix000 | coppice: where can we discuss the licensing fees ? |
| 05:00.28 | Inv_arp | man i need a cheap efax provider... efax is pricey |
| 05:00.32 | bkw_ | mogorman, haha thats what you think :P |
| 05:00.41 | mogorman | i think you can be silly sometimes bkw |
| 05:00.46 | coppice | tzanger: outside the US *all* SS7 links arrive on and E1 or T1. its only the US where they provide a V.56 port |
| 05:00.56 | mogorman | and resemble stallman sometimes... |
| 05:00.59 | tzanger | coppice: oh really.. see that would make more sense. :-) |
| 05:01.53 | coppice | tzanger: on the other hand, most adjunct boxes for SS7 have a V.56 port, so people outside the US end up needing an adaptor. |
| 05:02.11 | tzanger | ... adjunct box? |
| 05:02.23 | coppice | tzanger: we currently need to get our stack running with a V.56 card, like a sangoma board |
| 05:02.49 | nix000 | coppice: which hardware do you support ? |
| 05:03.05 | tzanger | anyway I really am going to bed now |
| 05:03.07 | tzanger | 'night all |
| 05:03.22 | coppice | most SS7 has traditionally been done by a unix machine or a stratus redundant machine connected by a V.56 port into the telecoms kit |
| 05:03.26 | NormAst | see ya... |
| 05:04.32 | coppice | for example, number portability is normally handled by a stratus machine, with V.56 |
| 05:05.24 | coppice | "When your doctor tells you to strip and crawl on all fours, be suspicious. Also, beware of Ed Zachary Disease" :-) |
| 05:07.28 | nix000 | coppice: what do you guys use to test your stack ? |
| 05:08.07 | Inv_arp | quick someone give me an alternate efax provider other than efax :) |
| 05:08.15 | nix000 | coppice: in terms of hardware or simulator. |
| 05:08.16 | coppice | It has been tested against various things, and is running in various places against different switches. |
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| 05:13.31 | nix000 | anyone know if digium cards can be made to act like cisco/quintum gateways talking to a radius server ? |
| 05:25.58 | *** join/#asterisk ejakupov (~savirc@pcp05292036pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 05:26.29 | ejakupov | hey all, what does Got SIP response 400 "Invalid From" back from 147.135.4.128 mean?? |
| 05:29.12 | nix000 | is there a billing solution for * ? |
| 05:29.24 | sivana | nix000: in the works |
| 05:29.44 | nix000 | sivana: open source ? |
| 05:30.01 | sivana | there's a couple, have you checked the wiki? |
| 05:30.40 | sivana | mine's not going to be, but I think there's others out there |
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| 05:36.51 | ariel_ | Hello very one. |
| 05:38.06 | ChrisOZ | Where can I download the Asterisk 1.07 files other from the main ones, it talks about Zaptel 1.07 but i havn't found the archive. |
| 05:38.09 | bkw_ | dirty dirty dirty |
| 05:38.48 | ejakupov | does anyone have broadvoice working with CentOS |
| 05:39.00 | ejakupov | asterisk@home |
| 05:39.10 | Inv_arp | ejakupov: shouldnt matter on distro wwhats the issue |
| 05:39.13 | bkw_ | gcc -shared -Xlinker -x -o codec_g728.so codec_g728.o g728/libg728.a |
| 05:39.20 | bkw_ | dirty dirty dirty |
| 05:39.30 | ejakupov | I can't connect any calls, incoming or outgoing |
| 05:39.39 | coppice | G.728? how quaint :-) |
| 05:39.55 | ejakupov | on incoming calls my sjphone rings and when I answer the celie keeps ringing until it times out |
| 05:40.10 | bkw_ | coppice, I don't think I have whats needed to complete it |
| 05:40.14 | bkw_ | I have the lib |
| 05:40.24 | t3t | bkw_: in ingles por favor... |
| 05:40.25 | bkw_ | but gotta match it all up.. its a learning project for me |
| 05:40.34 | coppice | why on earth do you want G.728? |
| 05:40.43 | bkw_ | I really don't.. just trying to learn stuff |
| 05:41.02 | bkw_ | would be a nice addition if we could use it.. but not something i'm really wanting |
| 05:41.33 | coppice | I think it is patented, even though code is freely available |
| 05:41.43 | coppice | it is pretty useless, though |
| 05:42.00 | bkw_ | ya... again... learning exp. |
| 05:42.13 | bkw_ | gotta learn somehow |
| 05:42.17 | ariel_ | ejakupov, http://geekgazette.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=2 |
| 05:42.20 | coppice | its rather clever, but useless |
| 05:42.20 | t3t | bkw_: it's patented: http://www.att.com/news/0895/950810.bla.html |
| 05:42.39 | bkw_ | t3t ya but code that implements it is all over the place |
| 05:42.41 | t3t | $10k + $1/channel |
| 05:43.03 | bkw_ | notice how they say G723 |
| 05:43.08 | bkw_ | G723 != g723.1 |
| 05:43.20 | bkw_ | G.721+G723 = Todays G726 |
| 05:43.25 | coppice | t3t: that is just for AT&T's patents. thete are probably others for G.728, and definitely others for G,723 |
| 05:43.41 | bkw_ | g723.1 |
| 05:43.42 | ejakupov | ariel_: I followed that but still no luck |
| 05:43.48 | bkw_ | I love how that press release is not specific |
| 05:43.59 | t3t | ok... $10k + $1 + xxx to pay off the rest of the patentholders :) |
| 05:44.08 | bkw_ | g723.1 will be up soon |
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| 05:44.16 | bkw_ | in the next 3 years last I checked |
| 05:44.47 | coppice | that doesn't sound right for the US. probably right for everywhere else, though |
| 05:44.59 | bkw_ | last I checked it was right for the US |
| 05:45.25 | bkw_ | it was on that lucent website.. I can't find the link now |
| 05:45.29 | hardwire | its night here |
| 05:45.31 | coppice | US has 20 year patents. The interesting stuff in 723.1 came after 1988 |
| 05:45.31 | hardwire | thats for sure. |
| 05:45.39 | brc_ | bkw_, |
| 05:45.44 | brc_ | what up ho! |
| 05:45.50 | bkw_ | brc_, not much |
| 05:45.54 | hardwire | oh |
| 05:45.56 | hardwire | right.. not right |
| 05:45.59 | brc_ | hows da hdtv? |
| 05:46.00 | hardwire | err night |
| 05:46.09 | bkw_ | coppice, well either way it will be up sooner than later |
| 05:46.21 | bkw_ | its not that big of a deal |
| 05:46.29 | bkw_ | bandwidth is catching up faster |
| 05:46.38 | coppice | well before G.729, that's for sure |
| 05:47.07 | coppice | oh, no, not the bandwidth is improving argument again :-) |
| 05:47.08 | bkw_ | well most of G729A is up before the B+ stuff is |
| 05:47.13 | bkw_ | haha |
| 05:47.55 | coppice | i doubt there is much in the stuff after G.729A that is patentable |
| 05:48.01 | ariel_ | ejakupov, I don't know what to tell you I don't use Broadvoice |
| 05:48.04 | NormAst | Can I do this ?? res = ast_app_getdata(chan,"", cd->destination, 16, 0); |
| 05:48.11 | NormAst | I don't want it to play a file. |
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| 05:48.31 | bkw_ | check how waitexten does it |
| 05:48.37 | NormAst | Okay. |
| 05:48.56 | NormAst | thanks |
| 05:48.56 | shmaltz | hi everybody |
| 05:49.05 | bkw_ | HI HI HI HI HI HI HI HI HIHI |
| 05:49.10 | brc_ | HO HO HO! |
| 05:49.10 | bkw_ | Ho |
| 05:49.13 | bkw_ | haha |
| 05:49.20 | shmaltz | bkw_, have you ever tried the Polycom phones? |
| 05:49.26 | bkw_ | shmaltz, nope |
| 05:49.31 | shmaltz | :( |
| 05:49.32 | bkw_ | WilliamK, ya really |
| 05:49.54 | bkw_ | now where is zoa |
| 05:49.58 | t3t | WilliamK: yeah, and not tied to parts that can fail |
| 05:50.00 | shmaltz | WilliamK, and how will they make money? |
| 05:50.02 | WilliamK | what would be nice though is if the license keys for asterisk's g729a was more automated from digium instead of having to wait for a person to read the order, etc.. |
| 05:50.02 | elriah | Hi guys, I noticed something, musiconhold plays where you last left off, is mpg123 running constantly in the background and streaming the moh to asterisk? |
| 05:50.19 | t3t | elriah: sure is |
| 05:50.25 | shmaltz | elriah, yep |
| 05:50.35 | elriah | That's cool. |
| 05:50.35 | bkw_ | NO IT IS NOT |
| 05:50.36 | shmaltz | you can see it when running pstree or top |
| 05:50.40 | bkw_ | ok |
| 05:50.44 | bkw_ | take notes here guys |
| 05:50.49 | t3t | definitely not cool |
| 05:50.52 | shmaltz | bkw_, of course it is, just not outputing it |
| 05:50.55 | bkw_ | asterisk only reads from the pipe on mpg123 when needed |
| 05:50.59 | WilliamK | t3t, as long as you're not continously changing NICs it shouldn't be an issue, plus you can reg TWO times without calling digium |
| 05:51.02 | bkw_ | thus mpg123 is not using CPU |
| 05:51.02 | WilliamK | aka 1st and 2nd |
| 05:51.04 | brc_ | NO ITR"S NOT! |
| 05:51.12 | WilliamK | long as it's the same host IDs |
| 05:51.16 | bkw_ | shmaltz, nope |
| 05:51.22 | brc_ | http://www.jroller.com/page/berlinbrown/20050319#if_java_were_a_women |
| 05:51.29 | bkw_ | if the pipe isn't getting read from mpg123 isn't using the CPU one bit |
| 05:51.30 | shmaltz | bkw_, it is on my machines sometimes up to 90% on some CPUs |
| 05:51.36 | Inv_arp | thats why mpg123 continues where it left off |
| 05:51.36 | t3t | WilliamK: oooh.. 2 times. that's cool until the second hardware failure and digium's offices are closed. |
| 05:51.38 | bkw_ | then you're not running mpg123 0.59r |
| 05:51.50 | bkw_ | or your system is fucked |
| 05:52.00 | bkw_ | becuase I can call musiconhold... hangup wait 5 min |
| 05:52.05 | bkw_ | call back and pickup right where I left off |
| 05:52.08 | shmaltz | I guess the later is true |
| 05:52.15 | WilliamK | t3t, I've never lost nics more than once in a 3yr period |
| 05:52.22 | Inv_arp | my debian 300mhz runs MOH hardly any CPU util |
| 05:52.23 | bkw_ | <-- knows this stuff really well |
| 05:52.24 | shmaltz | that system is fucked up |
| 05:52.26 | WilliamK | then again I use all intel server adapters |
| 05:53.04 | t3t | WilliamK: It all depends on the application... and it binds to ALL the NICs in the machine... so if you have an onboard NIC and the mobo goes, your license is toast too |
| 05:53.06 | shmaltz | but it still runs in the background |
| 05:53.12 | bkw_ | ya but doesn't use CPU |
| 05:53.22 | shmaltz | maybe on a good machine |
| 05:53.29 | WilliamK | t3t, I always disable my onboards |
| 05:53.31 | WilliamK | never use em |
| 05:53.37 | elriah | My mpg123 isn't even registering cpu cycles in top |
| 05:53.43 | WilliamK | had too many probs with the onboard nics |
| 05:53.50 | bkw_ | default => quietmp3nb:/var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3,-z |
| 05:53.51 | brc_ | blah |
| 05:53.52 | brc_ | http://buzz.research.yahoo.com/bk/market/market.html?_mid=11024&_ono=9 |
| 05:53.55 | sivana | I've never had one with an onboard |
| 05:53.55 | bkw_ | nb removes the buffer |
| 05:54.18 | elriah | So if I have different moh classes, they all spawn an mpg123 and play my "playlist"? |
| 05:55.02 | t3t | WilliamK: at any rate, I would prefer to be able to move it from one machine to another without a hardware swap... that's why dongles went out of fashion |
| 05:55.23 | sivana | t3t: you can. Do it when you can contact Digium for another key |
| 05:55.34 | bkw_ | do you realizze how easy it is to fake the mac |
| 05:55.46 | elriah | So if I have different moh classes, they all spawn an mpg123 and play my "playlist"? |
| 05:56.08 | WilliamK | bkw, extremely =) |
| 05:56.11 | bkw_ | I have one mpg123 per class |
| 05:56.24 | elriah | Cool. |
| 05:56.29 | bkw_ | shmaltz, kewl ;) |
| 05:56.43 | t3t | bkw_: of course, but how does the codec determine the mac? |
| 05:56.51 | bkw_ | think about it |
| 05:56.53 | bkw_ | how does dundi do it? |
| 05:56.57 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 05:57.04 | elriah | iaxcomm.dll + little bit of vb + asterisk = streaming mp3 server |
| 05:57.05 | shmaltz | bkw_, I got to slap that fucked up machine back into shape |
| 05:57.21 | t3t | bkw_: problem solved then.. thanks |
| 05:57.24 | WilliamK | bkw, bring me another keg man =) |
| 05:57.24 | ariel_ | well it's late and I need my sleep. See you all later. |
| 05:57.34 | shmaltz | it's running FC3, but I plan on using slackware |
| 05:58.17 | bkw_ | ok its linus |
| 05:58.18 | bkw_ | x |
| 05:58.23 | bkw_ | doesn't matter the distro really |
| 05:58.26 | bkw_ | it will run |
| 05:58.28 | bkw_ | NEXt!!! |
| 05:58.44 | sivana | hehe |
| 05:58.46 | t3t | bkw_: someone send you a tip via paypal? |
| 05:59.02 | WilliamK | bkw, careful someone might mistake you for lunch =) |
| 05:59.20 | bkw_ | my paypal brian.west@mac.com |
| 05:59.23 | bkw_ | WilliamK, for what? |
| 05:59.36 | mikegrb | so massive suckage today |
| 05:59.39 | WilliamK | dang dinner bells |
| 05:59.40 | WilliamK | =) |
| 05:59.43 | bkw_ | haha |
| 05:59.44 | mikegrb | discovered there is a lug even in my tiny town |
| 05:59.57 | t3t | I just accept checks written out to my favorite charity: CASH |
| 05:59.57 | mikegrb | they had an installfest today which I attended |
| 05:59.58 | bkw_ | mikegrb, full of stupid people I gather? |
| 06:00.14 | mikegrb | turns out there was some massive lugfest last month and mark was there |
| 06:00.17 | mikegrb | :< |
| 06:00.22 | bkw_ | haha |
| 06:00.26 | bkw_ | ya I think I recall that |
| 06:00.27 | mikegrb | bkw_: actually had a pretty good time |
| 06:00.31 | elriah | Ok, asterisk is cool. |
| 06:00.32 | mikegrb | was in alabama |
| 06:00.37 | bkw_ | I would hate to see a LUG here |
| 06:00.44 | mikegrb | where is here? |
| 06:00.47 | hardwire | our LUG disbanded. |
| 06:00.49 | bkw_ | it would be people all acting like they know their shit.. but dont know nothing |
| 06:00.52 | hardwire | before I even got here. |
| 06:00.54 | bkw_ | McAlester, OK |
| 06:00.57 | mikegrb | oh, right |
| 06:00.59 | hardwire | they knew I was coming so they went underground |
| 06:01.03 | mikegrb | we've discussed that before |
| 06:01.08 | bkw_ | trust me.. people here don't even say "warez" right |
| 06:01.21 | hardwire | bkw_: how do they say it? |
| 06:01.27 | bkw_ | were as |
| 06:01.28 | mikegrb | I'm in pensacola, which is so small we don't even have local news on tv |
| 06:01.49 | t3t | it's "WAR EZ" right? |
| 06:01.49 | hardwire | bkw_: you in texas? |
| 06:01.49 | bkw_ | hardwire, no OKLAHOMA |
| 06:01.49 | bkw_ | aka HELL |
| 06:01.50 | coppice | bkw_: of course not. they speak english with an american accent. :-) |
| 06:01.50 | hardwire | oh my! |
| 06:02.01 | bkw_ | coppice, these people here amaze me at times.. I dont know why I let them |
| 06:02.02 | WilliamK | bkw, the home of red clay |
| 06:02.02 | WilliamK | =) |
| 06:02.05 | hardwire | I have some friends in oklohoma |
| 06:02.06 | bkw_ | they are all so stupid |
| 06:02.09 | hardwire | one of them works at a psycho ward |
| 06:02.17 | bkw_ | we can drive around and play spot the meth lab |
| 06:02.30 | bkw_ | I about got shot once doing that |
| 06:02.31 | hardwire | kinda like pin the tail on the crackhead? |
| 06:02.42 | bkw_ | well we spoted one.. I took a picture.. the guy freaked out |
| 06:02.46 | bkw_ | and chased us all over town |
| 06:02.46 | hardwire | hah |
| 06:02.50 | bkw_ | it was quite funny |
| 06:02.53 | hardwire | yeh |
| 06:02.55 | hardwire | see |
| 06:02.59 | bkw_ | they tend to stop chasing you when you turn into the police dept. |
| 06:03.08 | hardwire | its people like that, that make me wanna violate some rights |
| 06:03.15 | hardwire | and strap a camera on a silent RC chopper |
| 06:03.25 | bkw_ | ya really |
| 06:03.32 | hardwire | oh well |
| 06:03.42 | bkw_ | take a chance you stupid ho!! |
| 06:03.55 | hardwire | apparently in one of the communities I work in.. of around 600 people.. somebody has a small time meth lab |
| 06:03.56 | bkw_ | kick it Gwen |
| 06:04.01 | hardwire | which I find hard to believe. |
| 06:04.06 | bkw_ | na meth is everywhere |
| 06:04.21 | bkw_ | now if they legalize it.. the stupid people would take care of themselves |
| 06:04.22 | bkw_ | really |
| 06:04.28 | bkw_ | its called OVER DOSE |
| 06:04.30 | bkw_ | NEXT!@!! |
| 06:04.33 | hardwire | bkw_: well I just don't think anybody in that place is motivated enough to learn chemical engineering |
| 06:04.38 | brc_ | bkw_ |
| 06:04.39 | hardwire | or anything even half-assed about it |
| 06:04.44 | brc_ | what happened to having a conf today |
| 06:04.49 | bkw_ | thats why they burn their houses down |
| 06:05.02 | bkw_ | brc no clue dude |
| 06:05.11 | bkw_ | i'm listening to music on da ipod right now |
| 06:05.18 | bkw_ | Gwen Stefani |
| 06:06.08 | brc_ | EWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 06:06.17 | bkw_ | why eww? |
| 06:06.23 | brc_ | just ew |
| 06:06.25 | bkw_ | you have no music taste |
| 06:06.28 | brc_ | no |
| 06:06.31 | shmaltz | anybody here tried the Uniden IP200? |
| 06:06.32 | brc_ | you have no music taste |
| 06:06.45 | bkw_ | brc yes I do dear.. i'm gay.. I know music |
| 06:06.52 | bkw_ | unless you're more gay than I |
| 06:07.23 | coppice | gay people have no taste in music |
| 06:07.30 | bkw_ | bull I do too |
| 06:07.35 | bkw_ | I know crappy music |
| 06:07.41 | bkw_ | its what they play on the radio around here |
| 06:07.45 | bkw_ | its called COUNTRY MUSIC!!! |
| 06:07.47 | bkw_ | haha |
| 06:07.51 | bkw_ | na I like some country |
| 06:07.52 | coppice | look at the gay musicians. all crap :-) |
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| 06:07.58 | bkw_ | no I didn't say we coudl sing |
| 06:07.58 | *** join/#asterisk MuppetMaster (~MuppetMas@a82-92-73-185.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 06:08.02 | bkw_ | I can't sing |
| 06:08.05 | bkw_ | but I know good music |
| 06:08.14 | hardwire | asterisk on a 266mhz geode is just plain wrong |
| 06:08.46 | hardwire | are you a homo? |
| 06:08.49 | Moc | hail |
| 06:08.54 | hardwire | hail homo? |
| 06:08.58 | coppice | homosapien? no |
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| 06:09.12 | bkw_ | homosexual boi |
| 06:09.13 | *** part/#asterisk ChrisOZ (~ChrisOZ@c211-30-43-109.mirnd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 06:09.31 | MuppetMaster | Is this the Asterisk IRC? |
| 06:09.36 | bkw_ | yes dear |
| 06:09.39 | bkw_ | how can we help you |
| 06:09.55 | shmaltz | http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1817&e=3&u=/cmp/20050319/tc_cmp/159902490&sid=96120750 |
| 06:10.15 | Moc | Im finally down to 1 bug left on my name .. |
| 06:10.16 | bkw_ | nothing like seeing firefox go down on microsoft... oh so sexual |
| 06:10.19 | mikegrb | bkw_: can you help me? |
| 06:10.25 | bkw_ | mikegrb, with? |
| 06:10.32 | mikegrb | bkw_: I would like to rape you, please |
| 06:10.44 | Moc | I just came from my grand grand mother birthday, she just turned 100year old |
| 06:10.45 | bkw_ | mikegrb, oh my.... |
| 06:10.53 | bkw_ | Moc, congrats |
| 06:11.00 | bkw_ | mikegrb, hard to rape the willing ya know!!! |
| 06:11.07 | bkw_ | I think thats just called sex |
| 06:11.08 | mikegrb | bkw_: :D |
| 06:11.12 | coppice | mikegrb: only rape, or are you up for a little pillaging too? :-) |
| 06:11.29 | bkw_ | ack |
| 06:11.30 | bkw_ | haha |
| 06:11.40 | bkw_ | i'm not a whore.. I just play one on IRC |
| 06:11.50 | bkw_ | damn we ran some people off |
| 06:11.57 | t3t | Moc: not many people make it to a century... I bet she has some pretty wild tales from the 20's |
| 06:12.23 | bkw_ | back when granny was a wildchild |
| 06:12.30 | sivana | hehe |
| 06:12.38 | bkw_ | just think how far we have come in the last 100 years in technology |
| 06:12.39 | coppice | y3y: the ones with the wild tales from their 20s don't often make it to 100 |
| 06:12.59 | bkw_ | off a key? |
| 06:13.01 | bkw_ | :P |
| 06:13.09 | coppice | bkw_: yeah. 100 years ago they cars, and now we have, er, cars |
| 06:13.12 | t3t | coppice: not in the bkw_, mikegrb context ... |
| 06:13.14 | MuppetMaster | Just sphincters |
| 06:13.15 | Moc | t3t, her memory is damn great... and yea she has hehe |
| 06:13.29 | Moc | she has a better memory than I do now.. scarry.. |
| 06:13.44 | bkw_ | Moc you don't take your little blue pill? |
| 06:13.45 | t3t | There's nothing better than learning history from someone who's been there |
| 06:13.51 | bkw_ | oh wait that blue one is for something else |
| 06:13.55 | Beirdo | heh |
| 06:14.01 | bkw_ | ;) |
| 06:14.15 | Moc | bkw_, I donno, Im doing injections now |
| 06:14.17 | Supaplex | sup bkw |
| 06:14.17 | mikegrb | yay, I'm getting a free o'reilly book! |
| 06:14.22 | elriah | Hi guys, I'm messing with MusicOnHold, the wiki says add a ",r" to the class to get it to "randomize" the play. What exactly does it randomize? I can't see any difference at all with or without the ",r". Also, I've seen ",-z" in some examples, what is that command? |
| 06:14.27 | Supaplex | mikegrb: yea? |
| 06:14.34 | t3t | Many of the history book writers don't have a clue about what actually happened.... |
| 06:14.44 | *** join/#asterisk mogorman (~mogorman@pcp03051659pcs.huntsv01.al.comcast.net) |
| 06:14.46 | bkw_ | ,r is for moh_files |
| 06:14.48 | mikegrb | Supaplex: yes :D |
| 06:14.48 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 06:14.51 | Moc | brb going into bed |
| 06:14.53 | t3t | ...imagine if your only information source was the media |
| 06:14.55 | mikegrb | any book(s) I want! |
| 06:14.58 | mikegrb | no limit :D |
| 06:14.58 | elric | t3t, what really happened is defined by the victor. |
| 06:15.01 | mogorman | lol |
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| 06:15.09 | t3t | elric: usually, yes |
| 06:15.11 | Beirdo | question... If I tell it to not load res_musiconhold, chan_sip won't load... is there a way to not load musiconhold but have SIP? |
| 06:15.11 | elriah | bkw_: Right, but what about moh does it randomize? I can't see a difference with or without it. And what's the "-z"? |
| 06:15.17 | Supaplex | mikegrb: how so? (pm is ok) |
| 06:15.26 | bkw_ | elriah, song to song |
| 06:15.31 | mikegrb | Supaplex: I have to write a review |
| 06:15.37 | Supaplex | ahhhh |
| 06:15.38 | bkw_ | if you have a low number of songs its not very random |
| 06:15.48 | bkw_ | -z is for mpg123 style moh |
| 06:15.52 | coppice | every nation's history books tell a different story. do US history books still say the North Koreans started the Korean war? |
| 06:15.55 | elriah | I see. Thanks. |
| 06:16.03 | elriah | bkw: What is mpg123 style moh? |
| 06:16.24 | bkw_ | you're kidding me right? |
| 06:16.30 | bkw_ | ok mpg123 uses mpg123 |
| 06:16.36 | bkw_ | the moh_files is native files |
| 06:16.43 | bkw_ | no mpg123 needed for musiconhold |
| 06:16.50 | elriah | Ahhh. |
| 06:17.01 | t3t | bkw_: no way... when did that happen? |
| 06:17.27 | bkw_ | long time ago |
| 06:17.27 | bkw_ | around xmas |
| 06:17.27 | brc_ | long |
| 06:17.30 | bkw_ | i recall anthm committing a patch on xmas day |
| 06:17.33 | bkw_ | to fix a small bug |
| 06:17.37 | mikegrb | ja |
| 06:17.45 | t3t | the mpg123 bug... |
| 06:17.48 | bkw_ | ya |
| 06:17.52 | bkw_ | the chdir was in the wrongplace |
| 06:17.53 | sivana | wish someone would fix the userfield bug |
| 06:17.55 | bkw_ | he had to move it a few lines |
| 06:18.00 | bkw_ | sivana, what userfield bug? |
| 06:18.02 | bkw_ | set it baby |
| 06:18.03 | bkw_ | SET IT |
| 06:18.07 | elriah | So I don't actually need mpg123? |
| 06:18.17 | sivana | the one where they didn't make it like accountcode |
| 06:18.52 | bkw_ | userfield can be anything |
| 06:18.56 | bkw_ | userfield can go away now ya know |
| 06:19.00 | bkw_ | now that we have CDR vars |
| 06:19.10 | sivana | yes, you can't do this in sip.conf userfield=blah |
| 06:19.17 | sivana | you have to use the SetUserfield() function |
| 06:19.19 | sivana | lame |
| 06:19.24 | Moc | back |
| 06:19.37 | bkw_ | http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0003595 |
| 06:19.41 | bkw_ | screw userfield |
| 06:19.43 | bkw_ | thats so limited |
| 06:19.50 | bkw_ | oh baby |
| 06:19.52 | bkw_ | sip.conf |
| 06:19.53 | bkw_ | you can do |
| 06:19.58 | bkw_ | setvar=userfield=blah |
| 06:20.07 | bkw_ | then call SetUserField(${userfield}) |
| 06:20.08 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 06:20.21 | bkw_ | we wrote that patch for that btw |
| 06:20.24 | bkw_ | and the cdr vars one |
| 06:20.44 | sivana | setvar=var=value? |
| 06:20.52 | bkw_ | you can load up alot of setvar='s in sip.conf entries.. those vars will come to life when a call is made from that user/peer |
| 06:20.53 | bkw_ | yes |
| 06:20.54 | sivana | in HEAD? |
| 06:20.56 | bkw_ | yes |
| 06:21.03 | sivana | ok.. that's better |
| 06:21.08 | sivana | 'bout time :) |
| 06:21.13 | bkw_ | ;) |
| 06:21.25 | bkw_ | send anthmct@yahoo.com a thank you not via paypal ;) |
| 06:21.28 | bkw_ | er note |
| 06:21.33 | sivana | now we just need to clean up and amalgamate some of the modules |
| 06:21.35 | sivana | :) |
| 06:21.48 | sivana | I think I will actually |
| 06:21.54 | bkw_ | anthm gets the chainsaw out daily on sutff |
| 06:21.56 | bkw_ | er stuff |
| 06:21.59 | Moc | ok what patch should I do ? |
| 06:22.06 | bkw_ | its quite funny to watch him go at a problem |
| 06:22.48 | Moc | bkw_ wouldnt you find bug 3408 usefull ? |
| 06:23.19 | bkw_ | example http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0003779 |
| 06:23.24 | bkw_ | thats fuckin handy as hell |
| 06:23.42 | bkw_ | now what apps can we rewrite as functions? |
| 06:23.59 | Moc | md5 |
| 06:24.08 | bkw_ | yep |
| 06:24.08 | bkw_ | thats one |
| 06:24.33 | bkw_ | Installed Custom Functions: |
| 06:24.33 | bkw_ | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 06:24.33 | bkw_ | if (Conditional: Returns the data following '?' if true else the data following ':') [$(if <expr>?<true>:<false>)] |
| 06:24.33 | bkw_ | exists (Existance Test: Returns 1 if exists, 0 otherwise) [$(exists <data>)] |
| 06:24.33 | bkw_ | isnull (NULL Test: Returns 1 if NULL or 0 otherwise) [$(isnull <data>)] |
| 06:24.35 | bkw_ | regex (Regular Expression: Returns 1 if data matches regular expression.) [$(regex "<regular expression>" <data>)] |
| 06:24.38 | bkw_ | OMG he did docs |
| 06:25.00 | Beirdo | anyone have any idea how I can disable MOH without borking SIP? |
| 06:25.10 | bkw_ | um don't set it up |
| 06:25.20 | bkw_ | or set a fake class |
| 06:25.29 | bkw_ | like SetMOHClass(DOESNT-EXIST) |
| 06:25.33 | Beirdo | it's spewing annoying messages |
| 06:25.36 | Moc | it probably not his patch then ;) He stoled it from some 5 year kid that do C code from a tree ;) |
| 06:25.45 | bkw_ | you can noload res_musiconhold now ya know |
| 06:25.53 | bkw_ | totally rip the module out |
| 06:25.53 | Beirdo | no I can't |
| 06:25.58 | bkw_ | yes you can in CVS-HEAD |
| 06:26.02 | Beirdo | it breaks chan_sip |
| 06:26.02 | dontmsgme | Is it possible that IAxcomm is just built better as a software application and that equals better phone reception |
| 06:26.07 | bkw_ | don't tell me you can't.. we wrote the fucking patch |
| 06:26.08 | bkw_ | YOU CAN |
| 06:26.11 | bkw_ | listen here in cvs-head you can |
| 06:26.12 | Moc | bkw_, app_math |
| 06:26.12 | Beirdo | I'm not running CVS, I'm running 1.0.6 |
| 06:26.18 | bkw_ | Moc good call |
| 06:26.27 | bkw_ | use head |
| 06:26.27 | bkw_ | :P |
| 06:26.31 | bkw_ | what messagse are spewing? |
| 06:26.37 | Beirdo | one sec |
| 06:26.45 | Moc | app_forkcdr.. |
| 06:26.56 | bkw_ | Moc na that one needs to stay till its fixed |
| 06:27.00 | bkw_ | I told tony about it alredy |
| 06:27.12 | Beirdo | Mar 20 01:26:50 NOTICE[18186]: res_musiconhold.c:309 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! |
| 06:27.27 | Moc | ivrdemo.c that new |
| 06:27.40 | Beirdo | just as soon as there's any activity at all |
| 06:27.43 | drumkilla | heh, it has been there a while |
| 06:27.53 | bkw_ | Beirdo, do this |
| 06:27.58 | bkw_ | you don't have zaptel hardware? |
| 06:28.00 | bkw_ | or using ztdummy? |
| 06:28.03 | dontmsgme | Does anyone use IAXcomm? |
| 06:28.11 | brc_ | yrd |
| 06:28.11 | Beirdo | not on that machine, it's a linode |
| 06:28.15 | brc_ | yrs |
| 06:28.15 | bkw_ | ok |
| 06:28.17 | bkw_ | then you do this |
| 06:28.19 | brc_ | yes |
| 06:28.20 | bkw_ | open logger.conf |
| 06:28.26 | bkw_ | take notice out of the console => line |
| 06:28.26 | Moc | that ivrdemo thing is neat |
| 06:28.28 | bkw_ | logger reload |
| 06:28.29 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 06:28.37 | bkw_ | without clocking its just gonna do that |
| 06:28.42 | coppice | dontmsgme: most so called soft phones are really just UIs. the quality they achieve depends on the underlying stuff. anything using the current iaxclient should sound as good or bad as iaxcomm |
| 06:28.42 | Moc | maybe ivr.conf is in order |
| 06:28.43 | shmaltz | ~sex |
| 06:28.44 | jbot | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 06:28.50 | Beirdo | heh. That would do the trick, I guess :) |
| 06:28.50 | bkw_ | no |
| 06:28.58 | bkw_ | ivrdemo is to do the api demo |
| 06:29.03 | bkw_ | thats it |
| 06:29.06 | bkw_ | we can use that in voicemail |
| 06:29.10 | bkw_ | to take care of those cracked up menus |
| 06:29.12 | bkw_ | evil menus |
| 06:29.18 | Moc | bkw, agreed |
| 06:29.34 | bkw_ | trying to debug voicemail is like trying to fish |
| 06:29.41 | Beirdo | thank you, bkw_ |
| 06:29.50 | Moc | but I mean, ivr.conf would be like a simple extensions.conf |
| 06:29.56 | Moc | base for IVR only |
| 06:29.59 | brc_ | goodbye |
| 06:30.13 | bkw_ | app_voicemail: Moves like a fish, steers like a cow |
| 06:30.16 | t3t | later, brc_ |
| 06:30.21 | coppice | bkw_ you don't usually get to hear weird personal messages while fishing :-) |
| 06:30.21 | mikegrb | Beirdo: or just comment the line out in the code like me ;) |
| 06:30.25 | shmaltz | gtg |
| 06:30.29 | Moc | We need to start thinking of a new layer for asterisk, just to make asterisk easier. |
| 06:30.30 | shmaltz | c ya all l8r |
| 06:30.32 | bkw_ | coppice, I hate to fish really |
| 06:30.41 | bkw_ | I'll go as long as every time the hook hits the water i catch something |
| 06:30.46 | shmaltz | Moc, why? |
| 06:30.46 | dontmsgme | DTMF tones is not working at all for Iaxcomm |
| 06:30.53 | Beirdo | mikegrb: are you REALLY asking me to recompile on linode :) |
| 06:30.53 | bkw_ | I don't like that sitting around where the bugs can eat me alive |
| 06:31.04 | mikegrb | Beirdo: it really isn't that bad, I run cvs on my linode |
| 06:31.12 | bkw_ | Moc asterisk is easy like it is |
| 06:31.15 | Beirdo | :) |
| 06:31.15 | mikegrb | Beirdo: it isn't like it is a daily thing |
| 06:31.19 | bkw_ | easy as in buggy |
| 06:31.19 | bkw_ | haha |
| 06:31.37 | coppice | dontmsgme: iaxcomm does what it should with DTMF |
| 06:31.39 | mikegrb | bkw_ even |
| 06:31.41 | Moc | bkw_, it easy, but when you have to setup 200 telephones... |
| 06:31.53 | bkw_ | its not asterisk's job to do that boi |
| 06:31.55 | Beirdo | I prefer not to deal with that yet. I'd rather be using a release than a moving target, I get enough of that with MythTV |
| 06:32.06 | shmaltz | Moc, I haven't seen any phone system with 200 phones that is easy |
| 06:32.10 | bkw_ | Beirdo, if you're a hunter.. you can use cvs-head |
| 06:32.23 | drumkilla | you can thank me for having releases :p |
| 06:32.27 | bkw_ | moving targets make me hot |
| 06:32.32 | bkw_ | thats HOT!!! |
| 06:32.38 | Beirdo | thank you, drumkilla :) |
| 06:32.43 | Moc | Maybe make a Channel driver called Exten/3000@context, and set in the iax.conf or sip.conf entry like exten=3000@context, and when you dial it, it will dial all the sip or iax entry |
| 06:32.46 | drumkilla | you are very welcome :) |
| 06:32.47 | bkw_ | that's gorgeous |
| 06:32.49 | t3t | Moc: many of the old systems expect you to program all 200 keysets via the LCD and keypad of one of the phones... |
| 06:33.03 | bkw_ | Moc, regexten |
| 06:33.05 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 06:33.08 | shmaltz | Moc, nope |
| 06:33.10 | Moc | urm hehe |
| 06:33.17 | shmaltz | I dont' think it's a good idea |
| 06:33.19 | bkw_ | keep em coming |
| 06:33.19 | Moc | nope what ? |
| 06:33.28 | shmaltz | the exte@context |
| 06:33.29 | bkw_ | work it girl |
| 06:33.34 | bkw_ | do your thing.. on the runway |
| 06:33.42 | bkw_ | wet your lips and smile to the camera |
| 06:33.44 | drumkilla | omg, let me fix my face ... |
| 06:33.52 | t3t | since you asked, bkw_: How can I tell if a VM has been left for a user? |
| 06:33.53 | Moc | ok let fix ilbc then !! |
| 06:33.57 | bkw_ | ok |
| 06:34.05 | bkw_ | you think nobody could be gayer than me |
| 06:34.07 | shmaltz | t3t, use voicemail in sip.conf |
| 06:34.08 | bkw_ | but THEY DO EXIST |
| 06:34.24 | t3t | shmaltz: it's for an analog port to a PBX |
| 06:34.36 | sivana | lol |
| 06:34.40 | shmaltz | t3t, where is the VM? |
| 06:34.41 | bkw_ | that's HOT!!! |
| 06:34.46 | t3t | on * |
| 06:34.59 | shmaltz | and where are the phones? |
| 06:35.04 | t3t | on the PBX |
| 06:35.05 | shmaltz | what PBX? |
| 06:35.10 | PTG123 | are you the masculine or the femanine gay guy? :) |
| 06:35.11 | bkw_ | supermodel |
| 06:35.18 | Moc | bkw_, can regexten be set to different context ? |
| 06:35.19 | bkw_ | PTG123, middle |
| 06:35.21 | t3t | samsung DCS (the original one w/o a model #) |
| 06:35.31 | bkw_ | I can be either... but if I didn't walk or talk you would never know I was gay |
| 06:35.33 | Moc | like regexten=600@default |
| 06:35.38 | PTG123 | bkw: heh |
| 06:35.41 | bkw_ | regexte=context |
| 06:35.42 | coppice | bkw_ does middle mean neutered? |
| 06:35.47 | bkw_ | hahah NO |
| 06:35.56 | shmaltz | I don't know samsungs, but most PBX systems will have a setting to hook up an analog VoiceMail |
| 06:35.56 | bkw_ | I haven't had my bits fliped |
| 06:35.59 | bkw_ | I still have them all |
| 06:36.04 | PTG123 | bkw_: middle just gives him the oppurtunity to have abigger pool of guys to go after :) |
| 06:36.10 | bkw_ | hahahah |
| 06:36.13 | Moc | bkw_, regcontext = global only ? |
| 06:36.23 | bkw_ | Moc I think... |
| 06:36.26 | shmaltz | in which case all you have to do is let * signal the PBX by using some DTMF |
| 06:36.27 | Moc | :( ok |
| 06:36.28 | bkw_ | would have to read the code to see for sure |
| 06:36.30 | t3t | shmaltz: already done. I need to know whether there are new VMs waiting to be picked up so I can light the proprietary MWI |
| 06:36.44 | Moc | that would have be stupid to do it that way |
| 06:36.53 | bkw_ | hey now.. hey now... |
| 06:36.53 | shmaltz | t3t, Wait I'm looking it up |
| 06:37.00 | bkw_ | i'm off my rocker |
| 06:37.02 | t3t | good luck |
| 06:37.06 | PTG123 | my tivo remote is gone |
| 06:37.11 | bkw_ | drumkilla, can I touch your ass? |
| 06:37.15 | drumkilla | bkw_: no. |
| 06:37.16 | *** join/#asterisk lqdengr (liquid@69.172.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 06:37.20 | bkw_ | hahahahahahahha |
| 06:37.24 | drumkilla | ;) |
| 06:37.25 | bkw_ | I was doing my impression of the boyz |
| 06:37.30 | PTG123 | its onlyu fair if you let him touch your ass |
| 06:37.31 | drumkilla | i know |
| 06:37.44 | drumkilla | Maybe if I see an email from paypal |
| 06:37.51 | sivana | heh |
| 06:37.54 | bkw_ | haha |
| 06:37.56 | bkw_ | dirty dirty boi |
| 06:37.58 | shmaltz | t3t, use this: |
| 06:38.00 | shmaltz | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+Hasnewvoicemail |
| 06:38.45 | bkw_ | muhahahah har har har har har h |
| 06:38.48 | mogorman | evil giggle... |
| 06:38.52 | t3t | shmaltz: wow... how did I overlook that one :~ |
| 06:38.56 | PTG123 | hmm i should tie voicemail into the webserver, and when someone downloads a file delete the voicemail :) |
| 06:38.59 | bkw_ | i'm just E V I L |
| 06:39.00 | t3t | shmaltz: thanks |
| 06:39.04 | PTG123 | That would be slick |
| 06:39.06 | mogorman | very bkw very |
| 06:39.06 | shmaltz | t3t, np |
| 06:39.17 | bkw_ | PTG123, you mean you don't have imap backended voicemail? |
| 06:39.26 | bkw_ | WHAT WHAT WHAT? |
| 06:39.33 | PTG123 | bkw_: well that would delete it if they download the email right? |
| 06:39.42 | drumkilla | not imap! |
| 06:39.42 | bkw_ | imap isn't downloaded boi |
| 06:39.50 | bkw_ | *SMACK* |
| 06:39.51 | bkw_ | we do have it ya know |
| 06:39.59 | bkw_ | faxes, emails, voicemails |
| 06:40.01 | bkw_ | one mailbox |
| 06:40.03 | PTG123 | how woudl imap voicemail fix that problem? :) |
| 06:40.03 | bkw_ | one interface |
| 06:40.10 | t3t | shmaltz: and I was in the middle of writing a shell script to iterate through the INBOX files and tell me whether the MOD time was withing 3 secs of the access time :) |
| 06:40.10 | PTG123 | you mean you give everyone an imap account? |
| 06:40.14 | bkw_ | because when you play a message it plays it from imap boi |
| 06:40.23 | bkw_ | or you toggle it read |
| 06:40.24 | bkw_ | or new |
| 06:40.27 | bkw_ | or forward it |
| 06:40.36 | PTG123 | bkw_: but then they need to use an imap reader :) |
| 06:40.37 | bkw_ | even get all yoru faxes forwarded to you from voicemail |
| 06:40.46 | PTG123 | bkw_: and i have gotten too attached to my mailblocks.com account |
| 06:40.46 | bkw_ | and thats a problem? |
| 06:40.47 | bkw_ | because? |
| 06:40.48 | drumkilla | any decent email client will do ... |
| 06:40.54 | bkw_ | ya really |
| 06:40.59 | PTG123 | i like checking my voicemail from anywhere :) |
| 06:41.04 | bkw_ | duh |
| 06:41.06 | bkw_ | you can |
| 06:41.07 | PTG123 | but a nice download link in the email, if i click it, it deletes it will work |
| 06:41.15 | bkw_ | thats such a hack |
| 06:41.19 | bkw_ | not pretty |
| 06:41.21 | PTG123 | heh |
| 06:41.24 | bkw_ | patooey |
| 06:41.28 | PTG123 | not really, just a rewrite rule :) |
| 06:41.33 | shmaltz | gtg |
| 06:41.35 | shmaltz | bye |
| 06:41.38 | bkw_ | bi |
| 06:41.46 | PTG123 | but i don't like that either |
| 06:41.50 | PTG123 | hrmph |
| 06:41.56 | PTG123 | b/c what if i want to save an email |
| 06:41.57 | bkw_ | ok voicemail even uses imap as the storage metnod |
| 06:41.58 | PTG123 | er voicemail |
| 06:42.03 | bkw_ | so when you login via the phone |
| 06:42.06 | bkw_ | its still pulling from imap |
| 06:42.08 | bkw_ | and stuff |
| 06:42.10 | bkw_ | its quite pretty |
| 06:42.10 | PTG123 | hmm really |
| 06:42.12 | bkw_ | DUH |
| 06:42.17 | bkw_ | :P |
| 06:42.19 | t3t | bkw_: you finished that? |
| 06:42.23 | bkw_ | it can even fax you your emails |
| 06:42.24 | bkw_ | and faxes |
| 06:42.25 | PTG123 | i could write4 my own imap web iface i suppose |
| 06:42.26 | bkw_ | from the phone |
| 06:42.31 | PTG123 | hah ok thats too much work |
| 06:42.35 | PTG123 | i don't even want to pick up the phone :) |
| 06:42.39 | t3t | PTG123: just use squirrelmail |
| 06:42.44 | bkw_ | oh you wanna get an SMS? |
| 06:42.59 | PTG123 | nah just se them when i check my email |
| 06:43.06 | bkw_ | again imap |
| 06:43.07 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 06:43.11 | bkw_ | circular argument |
| 06:43.13 | PTG123 | ok here is the problem |
| 06:43.15 | PTG123 | in any given day |
| 06:43.16 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 06:43.17 | PTG123 | i use 5-10 pcs |
| 06:43.17 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 06:43.18 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 06:43.26 | PTG123 | so its not like i can have an imap client |
| 06:43.26 | bkw_ | haha |
| 06:43.31 | PTG123 | pinch his ass :) |
| 06:43.34 | bkw_ | um |
| 06:43.36 | PTG123 | works better then a slap |
| 06:43.39 | bkw_ | imap solves that hole 1000 PC issue |
| 06:43.44 | bkw_ | becuase the mail is stored on the server |
| 06:43.48 | PTG123 | with what a web based imap? |
| 06:43.52 | bkw_ | thus you can check it from 1000000000000 PC's |
| 06:43.57 | drumkilla | wheeeeee |
| 06:43.57 | bkw_ | no imap always stores it on the server |
| 06:44.03 | bkw_ | ALWAYS |
| 06:44.10 | PTG123 | but i can't install clients on someone elses pcs |
| 06:44.16 | bkw_ | then do web tehre |
| 06:44.21 | bkw_ | and imap when you get home |
| 06:44.27 | bkw_ | I use imap on my ibook and imac |
| 06:44.30 | bkw_ | and have web access |
| 06:44.33 | bkw_ | its the same no matter wht |
| 06:44.56 | PTG123 | heh |
| 06:44.59 | t3t | Just don't try to use Outlook/OE as the IMAP client... |
| 06:45.08 | firestrm | im having a very strange asterisk problem.. tsm400.. fxo ports work fxs ports dont.. ztcfg says they are all there but asterisk can open the channel.. any ideas? |
| 06:45.51 | drumkilla | firestrm: look at the example configs on digium.com |
| 06:45.55 | PTG123 | hey who said use squirrelmail |
| 06:46.13 | bkw_ | eww squirl |
| 06:46.14 | coppice | a squirrel? |
| 06:46.21 | bkw_ | NEXT!!1 |
| 06:46.25 | PTG123 | t3t: you alive? :) |
| 06:46.32 | firestrm | drumkilla, the config worked before the problem cropped up.. its been running on current config for a month now.. |
| 06:46.34 | t3t | last I checked, why? |
| 06:46.43 | PTG123 | anyone know of a mailer daemon that will just clean out a maildir queue and send the emails? |
| 06:46.48 | PTG123 | without installing a full mail system? |
| 06:46.56 | PTG123 | t3t: is squirrelmail thread in c? |
| 06:47.03 | PTG123 | t3t: and does it support maildir |
| 06:47.09 | t3t | no, and yes. |
| 06:47.21 | bkw_ | um |
| 06:47.24 | bkw_ | exim can |
| 06:47.26 | t3t | and no to your first question about maildirs |
| 06:47.27 | PTG123 | exim can? |
| 06:47.39 | bkw_ | ya you can requeue mail from a maildir file to send |
| 06:47.48 | PTG123 | bkw_: i can just have it do that only? |
| 06:47.48 | bkw_ | I did that when we moved spam from the spam system to the realsystem |
| 06:47.52 | bkw_ | sure |
| 06:48.02 | bkw_ | exim is the shiznit |
| 06:48.05 | bkw_ | it can do ANYTHING really |
| 06:48.08 | PTG123 | bkw_: i have my own pop/smtp server i wrote i use myself, but never needed outgoing till this voicemail thing..and sendmail hangs occasionally |
| 06:48.09 | t3t | bkw_: you're just full of gems tonight |
| 06:48.23 | bkw_ | let me show you something I helped build |
| 06:48.26 | PTG123 | heh |
| 06:48.27 | bsdfreak | heh |
| 06:48.35 | bkw_ | http://webmail.psknet.com/toaster/ |
| 06:48.38 | bkw_ | i helped YoYo with that |
| 06:48.45 | bkw_ | when he first started with exim |
| 06:48.49 | firestrm | bkw_, im an exim refugee.. running postfix now, and i'll never go back |
| 06:48.52 | bkw_ | http://webmail.psknet.com/toaster/ |
| 06:49.00 | t3t | I like the brain damage part |
| 06:49.05 | bkw_ | firestrm, exim and postfix are so close |
| 06:49.06 | PTG123 | what the heck is it |
| 06:49.26 | t3t | firestrm: i did the same |
| 06:49.35 | bkw_ | why? |
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| 06:49.39 | bkw_ | what was so wrong with exim? |
| 06:49.53 | firestrm | bkw_, not that close.. with the exception of two problems that ive cant solve, postfix is running flawlessly.. |
| 06:49.56 | bkw_ | i'm not knocking postfix in anyway.. atleast its not sendmail |
| 06:49.58 | t3t | bkw_: config files were too confusing for my tiny brain |
| 06:50.11 | bkw_ | firestrm, what were the problems? |
| 06:50.15 | Eight | t3t: but ASTERISK is ok? |
| 06:50.19 | bkw_ | and how long ago was that? |
| 06:50.42 | t3t | Eight: what's my other option ;) |
| 06:50.46 | firestrm | bkw_, tls refuses to work, and i cant set custom bounce messages on helo rejects |
| 06:50.50 | Eight | t3t: there's that |
| 06:50.57 | bkw_ | haha you sure can do that |
| 06:51.12 | bkw_ | those are like the most simple to setup really |
| 06:51.36 | bkw_ | their were some issues when tls was first added to esim |
| 06:51.37 | bkw_ | er exim |
| 06:51.51 | firestrm | ive NEVER gotten tls to work on any smtp server, not qmail, sendmail exim or postfix.. so it must be a myth.. |
| 06:51.57 | PTG123 | when i can't figure out a software, i end up writing my own :) |
| 06:51.58 | bkw_ | haha |
| 06:52.34 | bkw_ | i'm about to beat greg silly |
| 06:52.47 | bkw_ | he's all pissy becuase he thinks the house is dirty.. its fucking betterhomes and gardens clean in here |
| 06:52.49 | bkw_ | all the time |
| 06:53.21 | firestrm | bkw_, have me move in.. i'll show him how bad it can really get :) |
| 06:53.40 | bkw_ | only if you put out |
| 06:53.47 | PTG123 | hahah |
| 06:53.50 | firestrm | lol |
| 06:53.57 | bkw_ | hahahaha |
| 06:54.10 | bkw_ | I don't beat around the bush eh? |
| 06:54.15 | bkw_ | brb |
| 06:54.21 | PTG123 | hehe |
| 06:54.40 | t3t | cool.. we can talk about bkw_ behind his back... |
| 06:54.40 | firestrm | i come back from a work rotation and there is still dishes with communities thriving on them in the sink.. |
| 06:55.07 | t3t | firestrm: that's because you didn't wash them before you left three weeks ago |
| 06:55.23 | firestrm | yep... hey youve been to my place :) |
| 06:55.30 | *** join/#asterisk Newbie___ (some@60.48.160.143) |
| 06:55.32 | bkw_ | i'm back |
| 06:55.35 | t3t | firestrm : sounds like mine |
| 06:55.39 | bkw_ | haha |
| 06:55.44 | bkw_ | dishes don't sit here longer than 24 hours |
| 06:55.45 | PTG123 | wow that was a quickie |
| 06:55.48 | t3t | bkw_: we're not done talking about you yet... |
| 06:55.59 | bkw_ | :P |
| 06:56.08 | WilliamK | PTG, is that what your wife says? |
| 06:56.08 | WilliamK | =) |
| 06:56.15 | firestrm | i have improved since gettig married.. but not much.. |
| 06:56.16 | bkw_ | no |
| 06:56.21 | PTG123 | she can't talk when i am done with her :) |
| 06:56.23 | bkw_ | his wife says "WOW thats small!" |
| 06:56.32 | bkw_ | :P |
| 06:56.45 | PTG123 | hehe, your just jealous of her bkw :) |
| 06:56.51 | bkw_ | I could take it |
| 06:57.15 | bkw_ | show me |
| 06:57.20 | PTG123 | I got the same rule as bkw, if you live with me you have to put out :) |
| 06:57.28 | bkw_ | hahah |
| 06:57.30 | firestrm | bkw_, lets go flying |
| 06:57.38 | bkw_ | I love to fly |
| 06:57.53 | PTG123 | Man i would try and figure out this exim, but it will probably take me less time to write my own :) |
| 06:58.00 | bkw_ | PTG123, na |
| 06:58.03 | bkw_ | its really simple |
| 06:58.08 | bkw_ | once you get it setup |
| 06:58.31 | PTG123 | bkw: once i get it all set up is the key, i just have to watch a dir, when a file gets written attempt to deliver it via smtp, i don't think that would take me too long to do.. |
| 06:58.38 | PTG123 | i already have the smtp lib written |
| 06:58.48 | bkw_ | let me at it.. i'm sure I could hack it |
| 06:58.49 | bkw_ | :P |
| 06:58.52 | bkw_ | riiight |
| 06:58.54 | PTG123 | its just this stupid maildir format i would have to convert my stuff too |
| 06:58.54 | t3t | ... just like Sendmail... once you get it set up, don't wiggle the config the wrong way or the whole thing comes tumbling down :) |
| 06:58.59 | bkw_ | I couldn't hack my way out of a wet paper bag |
| 06:59.00 | PTG123 | heh at which? |
| 06:59.21 | PTG123 | how can you hack something running as some measly user, chrooted() :) |
| 06:59.24 | firestrm | i was going through security, deadheading to my flight from toronto to vancouver, i had a big belt buckle on, of course the magnitometer goes off, so the girl starts waving her wand around my crotch, so a tell her, "yep its true, we pilots do indeed have balls of steel" |
| 06:59.32 | Qwell | PTG123: evening |
| 06:59.34 | PTG123 | worst you could do is check my porn spams :) |
| 06:59.41 | PTG123 | and you can have them |
| 06:59.45 | PTG123 | Qwell: good evening :) |
| 06:59.50 | bkw_ | firestrm, did she laff? |
| 07:00.06 | bkw_ | I wonder how often they clean the floors with all those bare foot people going thru security |
| 07:00.10 | firestrm | bkw_, everyone within earshot was ROTFLAO |
| 07:00.13 | *** join/#asterisk scardinal (~supreme@port816.ds1-suoe.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 07:00.17 | bkw_ | how often does foot fungs get passed on |
| 07:00.35 | bkw_ | "I went too Airport security and all i got was foot fungs!" |
| 07:01.06 | bkw_ | firestrm, so what are you wanting to be part of the mile high club? |
| 07:01.10 | bkw_ | or are you already? |
| 07:01.21 | firestrm | bkw_, we dont have to do the shoe thing.. they trust us that we are not going to blow our own plane up.. |
| 07:01.31 | Beirdo | well duh |
| 07:01.36 | bkw_ | I wouldn't count on that |
| 07:01.38 | firestrm | bkw_, first date with wife |
| 07:01.41 | PTG123 | firestrm: you a pilot? |
| 07:01.42 | bkw_ | "Depress pilot blows plane up" |
| 07:01.51 | Beirdo | if you wanted to fuck up a plane, you'd just fly it into something. |
| 07:01.58 | bkw_ | ok |
| 07:02.03 | bkw_ | she wasn't your wife at the time right? |
| 07:02.04 | firestrm | PTG123, yes.. SCair Canada |
| 07:02.06 | bkw_ | she was just some chick eh? |
| 07:02.17 | bkw_ | the wife part came later right? |
| 07:02.21 | bkw_ | :P |
| 07:02.24 | firestrm | bkw_, nope. |
| 07:02.31 | bkw_ | married then sex? |
| 07:02.39 | PTG123 | firestrm: cool |
| 07:02.44 | firestrm | bkw_, no, are you kidding? |
| 07:02.51 | bkw_ | hahahaha |
| 07:03.09 | firestrm | pilots will screw anything (just about) |
| 07:03.11 | PTG123 | you got to try out the merchandise before you buy it |
| 07:03.22 | bkw_ | "first date with wife" would infer that you were married on or before your first date |
| 07:03.24 | firestrm | PTG123, test drive |
| 07:03.32 | bkw_ | firestrm, promise? |
| 07:03.37 | bkw_ | :P |
| 07:03.45 | bkw_ | I have a thing for guys in uniforms |
| 07:03.50 | firestrm | bkw_, only if you shave first :P |
| 07:03.51 | PTG123 | haha |
| 07:03.56 | bkw_ | the funnies thing happened in SJC |
| 07:04.06 | bkw_ | we were sitting next to some cops.. and some chick wanted to film them |
| 07:04.20 | bkw_ | well the cops said no.. and then said "we can give these guys our uniforms and you can film them" |
| 07:04.24 | bkw_ | while pointing at us |
| 07:04.29 | firestrm | lol |
| 07:04.30 | bkw_ | haha |
| 07:04.48 | bkw_ | I should have said "Thats ok with me.. I have a thing for guys in uniform" |
| 07:04.52 | bkw_ | but I don't know how they would take that |
| 07:05.04 | PTG123 | they would beat you with their night stick :) |
| 07:05.08 | PTG123 | but then again you may enjoy that |
| 07:05.10 | bkw_ | promise? |
| 07:05.17 | PTG123 | beat you to it :) |
| 07:05.17 | bkw_ | hahahah |
| 07:05.21 | firestrm | the scary thing about airport security is that its only an illusion.. |
| 07:05.27 | bkw_ | firestrm, SOOOO TRUE |
| 07:05.38 | bkw_ | they kept flagging me because of my ipod |
| 07:05.47 | PTG123 | if i wanted to blow up a thing that flies in the air (avoid all those prying eyes) i could figure out a way |
| 07:05.58 | bkw_ | just walk up to the plane |
| 07:05.59 | bkw_ | duh |
| 07:06.03 | bkw_ | its not liek they are that secure |
| 07:06.18 | firestrm | we leave jets parked, fully fueled ready to go.. anyone who could get onto the field and knew what they were doing could fire one up and takeoff, before anyone could stop them |
| 07:06.27 | t3t | firestrm: and people think flying is dangerous... |
| 07:06.30 | bkw_ | yep |
| 07:06.41 | bkw_ | flying is safe |
| 07:07.01 | PTG123 | firestrm: yah but with in 5 minutes you would be shot down |
| 07:07.05 | bkw_ | trust me.. the journey to the airport almost got us whacked by some dumb bitch that doesn't know how to signal |
| 07:07.06 | PTG123 | firestrm: atleast here :) |
| 07:07.18 | firestrm | i have a very simple solution if i ever have someone try to break into the flight deck.. i would depressurize the cabin.. |
| 07:07.28 | bkw_ | PTG123, not if you fly the plane into the control tower |
| 07:07.45 | t3t | most people are sheep... you tell them something's secure and the tv reporter can't bring an AK-47 on board and they think they're safe |
| 07:07.45 | PTG123 | bkw: what would the fun in that be? |
| 07:07.47 | firestrm | PTG123, in canada, not a chance.. |
| 07:07.47 | bkw_ | firestrm, oh that works |
| 07:07.59 | bkw_ | canada security is better than the US |
| 07:08.09 | bkw_ | they don't check ID once you clear security |
| 07:08.15 | bkw_ | so when you swithc airports |
| 07:08.19 | t3t | it's too expensive to have real security at the airports.. hardly anyone would want to fly |
| 07:08.22 | bkw_ | here in the US you could swap tickets with someone else |
| 07:08.33 | PTG123 | i wish they would get rid of alot of the security personally |
| 07:08.36 | firestrm | at 30k ft, you have 30 sec of useful conciousness.. you can either sit down and behave and breath from the o2 mask, or you can pass out.. |
| 07:08.39 | PTG123 | my new rule is i don't flyc ommercial, i onlyf ly myself :) |
| 07:08.48 | Himeko | security is pretty mellow in japan |
| 07:08.53 | bkw_ | firestrm, thats a good moto |
| 07:08.55 | t3t | PTG123: most of it's not worth it |
| 07:09.09 | PTG123 | t3t: its to feel safe.. all it does in inconvience me |
| 07:09.13 | PTG123 | take off my shoes, how sad |
| 07:09.17 | t3t | PTG123: works if you can afford the fuel/plane |
| 07:09.30 | PTG123 | t3t: thats cheaper then commerical, depending on how many people are going |
| 07:09.31 | Himeko | then i watch ppl at the airport here and it's like some of the security ppl like havign their little power trips |
| 07:09.39 | WilliamK | bkw, can't do that here at DFW... IDs are checked prior to going through the checkpoint and also at the time you get your boarding pass/checkin and screen bags, etc.. |
| 07:09.50 | bkw_ | WilliamK, not here |
| 07:09.53 | t3t | PTG123: in what kind of plane... as long as most of the expenses are paid by someone else |
| 07:09.54 | bkw_ | not a single aiport from here to SJC |
| 07:09.58 | bkw_ | or here to Atlanta |
| 07:10.19 | bkw_ | TUL, MEM, IAD, DEN, SJC, LAX |
| 07:10.25 | bkw_ | not a single one checked my ID at the gate |
| 07:10.30 | PTG123 | t3t: just a piston craft like a cessna, etc.. i am thinking about buying a aerostar, they are FAST and fuel efficent, and seat 7 |
| 07:10.51 | WilliamK | most of the screeners recheck IDs at the gate again prior to boarding to make sure it matches here at DFW |
| 07:11.01 | bkw_ | I have yet to go thru DFW |
| 07:11.06 | bkw_ | I wanna go thru there next time I go somewhere |
| 07:11.07 | t3t | repairs, hangar, insurance, licenses, etc... they add up fast |
| 07:11.09 | PTG123 | yah they do here in phoenix too |
| 07:11.19 | firestrm | PTG123, senica V, w/ diesel conversion |
| 07:11.27 | bkw_ | I wanna cessna citation |
| 07:11.30 | firestrm | ive seen 1 |
| 07:11.33 | bkw_ | or a cessna mustang |
| 07:11.33 | PTG123 | t3t: tie down is $100 a month.. insurance licenses is pretty cheap.. and throw $30/hr in a coffee can for maintence |
| 07:11.37 | bkw_ | someone buy me one |
| 07:11.38 | firestrm | it was really nice.. |
| 07:11.44 | PTG123 | you would be suprised how cheap flying is |
| 07:11.49 | t3t | PTG123: wish I lived near your airport |
| 07:11.50 | PTG123 | once you have your license and you rown plane |
| 07:11.56 | *** join/#asterisk dontmsgme (~none@207.215.252.80) |
| 07:12.04 | firestrm | PTG123, its the insurance that kills you.. |
| 07:12.10 | bkw_ | depends |
| 07:12.15 | firestrm | at least in canada |
| 07:12.21 | PTG123 | firestrm: depends on your carrier, your age, you record, and the plane you fly |
| 07:12.27 | bkw_ | greg ran his truck into the neighbors house.. burned it down.. and they paid out 25k and lowered our insurance |
| 07:12.39 | bkw_ | figure that shit out |
| 07:12.45 | sivana | anyone work with .NET here? |
| 07:12.53 | bkw_ | I have |
| 07:12.55 | bkw_ | AgiNamu, has |
| 07:13.01 | t3t | PTG123: what's MOH cost on an aerostar? |
| 07:13.02 | dontmsgme | Anyone use IAXcomm? Ever had problems with the DTMF tones? |
| 07:13.02 | sivana | ya, AgiNamu not here :) |
| 07:13.06 | PTG123 | .NET was invented by the devil |
| 07:13.14 | bkw_ | i have done res_mono but it has a bug |
| 07:13.17 | sivana | trying to access the session state from a server side class |
| 07:13.18 | t3t | dontmsgme: do you have DTMF=inband set? |
| 07:13.19 | bkw_ | the threads never die off |
| 07:13.25 | PTG123 | t3t: monthly isn't too bad.. the major engine overhaul is like $15k i think |
| 07:13.25 | bkw_ | so they sit around FOREVER |
| 07:13.28 | PTG123 | per engine |
| 07:13.42 | PTG123 | but you gotta understand those things are FAST, so you get alot of miles out of them before you need the overhaul |
| 07:13.58 | sivana | of all the programming languages I've used... .NET isn't bad.. it's just that it's from MS :) |
| 07:14.00 | t3t | what's the fuel burn? |
| 07:14.11 | bkw_ | C A S H |
| 07:14.16 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 07:14.29 | PTG123 | i wanna say like 35GPH |
| 07:14.36 | PTG123 | its been a while since i looked |
| 07:14.40 | bkw_ | DAMN |
| 07:14.43 | bkw_ | thats not cheap |
| 07:14.51 | bkw_ | where is my flying car:/ |
| 07:14.54 | dontmsgme | Anyone use IAXcomm? Ever had problems with the DTMF tones? |
| 07:14.57 | bkw_ | weren't we promised those |
| 07:14.57 | PTG123 | but they cruise just short the speed of a jet |
| 07:14.58 | firestrm | PTG123, i would rather have a pilatus pc-12 |
| 07:15.04 | PTG123 | in vegas in less then 20 minutes |
| 07:15.10 | PTG123 | so 10 gallons of fuel to get to vegas |
| 07:15.13 | PTG123 | at $2/gallon |
| 07:15.14 | sivana | dontmsgme: do you see any new people? |
| 07:15.16 | PTG123 | pretty cheap |
| 07:15.21 | firestrm | one engine to overhaul, very reliable.. |
| 07:15.26 | PTG123 | my car fuel would be the same |
| 07:15.31 | bkw_ | I wanna get an ultralight |
| 07:15.36 | PTG123 | firestrm: not near as fast though |
| 07:15.37 | bkw_ | to toy around with on the weekends |
| 07:15.50 | t3t | PTG123: assuming that you get to takeoff/land right away |
| 07:15.51 | PTG123 | firestrm: or sit as many people |
| 07:15.55 | dontmsgme | Damn I just got ripped by some reseller on Amazon |
| 07:16.07 | bkw_ | dontmsgme, rip them back |
| 07:16.08 | coppice | dontmsgme: why do you keep asking the same question, but ignore responses? |
| 07:16.10 | bkw_ | its called CHARGEBACK |
| 07:16.11 | PTG123 | t3t: as long as you don't vgo on a saturday morning.. but they actually stop the engines while they wait here :) |
| 07:16.21 | PTG123 | t3t: most of the time i have no problem taxi'ing right out, and taking off |
| 07:16.32 | PTG123 | and landing at 120mph in a little plane is sucha rush :) |
| 07:16.52 | firestrm | PTG123, seats 9 |
| 07:17.01 | t3t | PTG123: try landing in the snow :) |
| 07:17.02 | PTG123 | oh its a turboprop? |
| 07:17.04 | dontmsgme | Bkw_ do I just contact my bank? |
| 07:17.18 | PTG123 | HOLY CRAP MAN ) |
| 07:17.21 | bkw_ | dude |
| 07:17.24 | PTG123 | I don't have that kind of money :) |
| 07:17.30 | bkw_ | you have never done a chargeback? |
| 07:17.33 | firestrm | seats 6 in executive config |
| 07:17.34 | dontmsgme | No |
| 07:17.35 | bkw_ | did you pay with a debit card? |
| 07:17.35 | PTG123 | cheapest i can find one for is 2mil |
| 07:17.46 | t3t | PTG123: pocket change |
| 07:17.58 | PTG123 | i'll stick with my aerostar $150k will buy me a nice one :) |
| 07:18.02 | firestrm | t2t, pc-12 has a ski kit |
| 07:18.05 | bkw_ | dontmsgme, go to your bank.. fill out Reg E. form.. talk to bank they'll tell you what you can do. |
| 07:18.07 | PTG123 | $250k if i want to go crazy |
| 07:18.10 | firestrm | er t3t im mean.. |
| 07:18.30 | PTG123 | firestrm: how many of those they build a year, only 20 for sale on aircraft.com |
| 07:18.30 | bkw_ | mess with me.. i'll CHARGE IT BACK in two seconds |
| 07:18.32 | t3t | firestrm: I mean on wheels :) |
| 07:18.38 | sivana | I do chargebacks all the time.. just order stuff from asterlink.com and do chargebacks.. its fun |
| 07:18.40 | t3t | that's a rush |
| 07:18.52 | bkw_ | sivana, haha you better not... ;) |
| 07:18.55 | sivana | hehe |
| 07:19.07 | PTG123 | firestrm: don't you need twin engines to fly over water? |
| 07:19.08 | WilliamK | bkw, I've never had to do a chargeback... worst thing I had done to me was some of my checks stolen from my desk by a rogue sales person |
| 07:19.12 | bkw_ | ok you know whats a rush? |
| 07:19.26 | PTG123 | i don't want to hear about gerbils bkw :p |
| 07:19.32 | bkw_ | haha |
| 07:19.50 | t3t | PTG123: only if you like to live |
| 07:20.06 | bkw_ | when the plane goes thru turbulence and everyone on the plane freaks out |
| 07:20.07 | PTG123 | t3t: i thought it was the law |
| 07:20.10 | bkw_ | thats a rush |
| 07:20.11 | firestrm | PTG123, mostly, except the pc-12 has a special certificate, its has such a good safety record that they allow them ifr and over water even though they are single engine. |
| 07:20.15 | t3t | PTG123: don't think so |
| 07:20.16 | bkw_ | because i'm usually too busy laffing my ass off |
| 07:20.24 | PTG123 | bkw_: ok you know whats a rush, fly near an airliner in a little cessna |
| 07:20.30 | PTG123 | bkw_: the plane almost flips :) |
| 07:20.37 | bkw_ | haha |
| 07:20.42 | PTG123 | firestrm: ah cool.. |
| 07:20.44 | t3t | PTG123: unless you take the 'in control at all times' stuff literally |
| 07:21.03 | coppice | bkw_ so a rush is that nasty feeling the shitty airline meal is coming back to your mouth for a repeat performance? |
| 07:21.05 | PTG123 | my instructor did that to me.. he said see that airliner 2 miles away.. and i was like sure.. and he said nothing more.. 5 minutes later wake turbelence hit us :) |
| 07:21.07 | t3t | PTG123: pilots have a word for that.... |
| 07:21.11 | t3t | ... suicide |
| 07:21.16 | firestrm | PTG123, ive expreinced that.. wasnt fun.. |
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| 07:21.27 | PTG123 | firestrm: he was laughing his ass off :) |
| 07:21.33 | firestrm | i wasnt |
| 07:21.38 | bkw_ | coppice, na I have never had a meal on an airline yet |
| 07:21.42 | bkw_ | just nuts or crackers |
| 07:21.44 | firestrm | i almost gave up flying |
| 07:21.48 | PTG123 | firestrm: hehe i was once i put a towerl underneath me hah |
| 07:21.56 | t3t | PTG123: it's all fun and games until you hit a wingtip voritce that's still turning |
| 07:22.01 | coppice | bkw_ sheltered life, eh? |
| 07:22.05 | bkw_ | ya |
| 07:22.13 | mogorman | bkw sheltered... |
| 07:22.15 | mogorman | lol |
| 07:22.21 | PTG123 | firestrm: thats ok i got him back when i did an emergency landing in a caynon with no way out.. :) when he panic'd i set for best climb and skimmed the walls making a turn.. :) byt the time we got out he was white :) |
| 07:22.26 | bkw_ | dude I have worked 40+ hours a week since I was 13 |
| 07:22.57 | PTG123 | firestrm: i like the looks of that plane.. but not cheap enough |
| 07:23.00 | firestrm | when i was first training with only about 5 hours exp.. my instructor and i hit wake voritcies.. short final 100' off the ground.. |
| 07:23.10 | coppice | last time I went to the US we had 7 hours of continuous turbulence, until people had to ignore the seatbelt sign, and head for the washroom anyway |
| 07:23.15 | PTG123 | firestrm: you know what a dust devil is? |
| 07:23.19 | firestrm | the aircraft did a snap roll inverted. |
| 07:23.36 | bkw_ | ouch |
| 07:23.40 | firestrm | PTG123, yes.. we have them in alberta/sask |
| 07:23.49 | PTG123 | firestrm: they are scary up here.. |
| 07:23.55 | PTG123 | firestrm: ever been caught in a flat spin? |
| 07:23.59 | firestrm | never |
| 07:24.00 | t3t | firestrm: so what was the 'landing' like? |
| 07:24.05 | PTG123 | firestrm: that would be scary |
| 07:24.30 | PTG123 | http://www.controller.com/listings/forsale/detail.asp?guid=26E4B5FCC94D4086A8F530F0FF4B8DE1&pcid=1209204&etid=1&OHID=1077861&setype=1&nh=0&listURL=setype%3D1%26catid%3D9%26man%3DAEROSTAR%26mdlgrp%3D601P |
| 07:24.32 | PTG123 | thats what i want |
| 07:24.34 | firestrm | we managed to right the aircraft 25' off the deck.. and did a go around.. |
| 07:24.43 | bkw_ | OUCH |
| 07:24.48 | bkw_ | 265k |
| 07:24.52 | PTG123 | yah thats scary stuff |
| 07:24.54 | t3t | ... and cleaned your pants when you got back to the terminal |
| 07:24.57 | firestrm | even the guys in the tower had to change their shorts |
| 07:25.00 | PTG123 | bkw_: not so bad when you consider you can do a 10-20 year loan |
| 07:25.11 | firestrm | they though we were toast for sure |
| 07:25.31 | PTG123 | firestrm: what i love about flying is all the pilots are friendly in generall.. till you get some grump guy who complains when you say good evening to the tower :) |
| 07:25.39 | bkw_ | http://mustang.cessna.com/index.chtml |
| 07:25.41 | bkw_ | i want |
| 07:25.55 | ST-3 | i'd rather have a p-51 mustang ;) |
| 07:26.01 | t3t | PTG123: monthly interest would be relatively high wouldn't it? |
| 07:26.17 | PTG123 | bkw_: my office was an office where all they did is lease jets to famous people etc... their were some neat planes that took off from there |
| 07:26.22 | firestrm | PTG123, those ones are usually the ones who have never had to rely on the tower to get them out of a jam. |
| 07:26.24 | coppice | the thing I love about flying is egtting seated between 2 very fat drunks. :-) |
| 07:26.26 | PTG123 | t3t: no its pretty low actually |
| 07:26.43 | PTG123 | firestrm: heh probably.. No extra chatter :) |
| 07:26.46 | coppice | because the attendants are likely to take pity on you and move you up a class :-) |
| 07:26.47 | firestrm | aircraft mechanics and ATC are high on my list of respected persons |
| 07:26.54 | bkw_ | coppice, hahah |
| 07:27.05 | ST-3 | firestrm: aircraft are too valuable to trust to mechanics ;) |
| 07:27.06 | Qwell | PTG123: I'm (sorta) around when you're ready. |
| 07:27.27 | PTG123 | Qwell: we are talking about gay men and airplanes :) |
| 07:27.36 | coppice | bkw_ it has happened to me. |
| 07:27.38 | firestrm | if the mechanic is having a bad day, chances is that yous is about to be worse. |
| 07:27.41 | PTG123 | Qwell: i know atleast one of those topics is exciting to me, and atleast one is exciting to bkw |
| 07:27.44 | ST-3 | heh |
| 07:27.53 | PTG123 | firestrm: its scary when stuff stops working in the air :) |
| 07:28.02 | PTG123 | firestrm: gotta count on that mechanic |
| 07:28.08 | ST-3 | I just finished the annual fron hell, so im all anti-mechanic ;) |
| 07:28.09 | PTG123 | firestrm: when you look at how simple an airplane is, its scary |
| 07:28.13 | t3t | PTG123: over 1k/mo @20yr 6% |
| 07:28.26 | PTG123 | t3t: yah thats my car payment |
| 07:28.26 | firestrm | PTG123, anyone who had flown for any amout of time has had problems in the air.. its all about what you do after that.. |
| 07:28.45 | PTG123 | t3t: and i bet my insuyrance would be less then my car insurance too |
| 07:28.58 | coppice | I love the look on an engine fitter's face when they get an engine back together and there is still an o-ring or washer or something still left on the stripdown board :-) |
| 07:29.05 | PTG123 | firestrm: hence the reason twin engines sound good to be, except during takeoff :) |
| 07:29.06 | WilliamK | firestrm, panic and forget the days in the future =) |
| 07:29.24 | firestrm | ST-3, lol.. yes it can be painful, but better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.. |
| 07:29.30 | PTG123 | firestrm: actually i impressed my instructures with how level headed i think during emergencies.. |
| 07:29.43 | PTG123 | t3t: i could get rid of the sports car and buy a plane |
| 07:29.45 | ST-3 | firestrm: yup. I'm not complaining. |
| 07:29.52 | t3t | PTG123: two engines on takeoff are nice until you flip it from the effect of the engine cutting out |
| 07:29.54 | PTG123 | t3t: and a plane is an appreciating assett |
| 07:30.07 | PTG123 | t3t: thats my point, you need to be fast on the rudder |
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| 07:30.19 | bkw_ | http://adcache.aerotraderonline.com/2/1/8/78449018.htm |
| 07:30.22 | PTG123 | firestrm: did you have to land on the belly? |
| 07:30.30 | t3t | PTG123: getting rid of a $12k/yr car in favor of a plane would probably be a good idea... |
| 07:30.32 | ST-3 | firestrm: Did you pass first? :) |
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| 07:30.46 | PTG123 | bkw_: you know what the fuel burn is on those things? |
| 07:30.58 | firestrm | ST-3, i got extra marks for getting it down in one piece.. |
| 07:31.04 | ST-3 | cool |
| 07:31.06 | PTG123 | t3t: but having both even better idea :) |
| 07:31.13 | Eight | PTG123: a plane is an appreciating asset? What were you smoking when they sold you on that line? |
| 07:31.22 | t3t | PTG123: definitely |
| 07:31.23 | ST-3 | ptg123: should have gotten him to pencil it out first in case you killed him ;) |
| 07:31.25 | PTG123 | Eight: it is |
| 07:31.26 | firestrm | turned out that the gear door was frozen shut by some slush.. |
| 07:31.30 | bkw_ | http://adcache.aerotraderonline.com/2/3/5/78026635.htm |
| 07:31.32 | bkw_ | ack |
| 07:31.35 | bkw_ | that shit is expensive |
| 07:31.48 | tuxinator_linuxM | firestrm, Had some plane trouble? |
| 07:31.49 | PTG123 | if you can afford the fuel, you can afford the jet |
| 07:32.06 | bkw_ | I can't afford either |
| 07:32.10 | Qwell | PTG123: take your time, heh |
| 07:32.15 | PTG123 | haha |
| 07:32.15 | Qwell | I'm in no hurry |
| 07:32.18 | coppice | bkw_ well you just stepped from a clapped out old one to a nice new one |
| 07:32.18 | bkw_ | doubt I'll ever be able to afford either |
| 07:32.29 | firestrm | tuxinator_linuxM, most pilots have had some trouble.. i was just talking about old experiences.. |
| 07:32.34 | bkw_ | coppice, either way i'll never own one |
| 07:32.41 | coppice | a 1968 plane must be close to end of life |
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| 07:32.50 | tuxinator_linuxM | firestrm, nothing recent... cool. I'm also a pilot |
| 07:32.54 | ST-3 | coppice: says who/ |
| 07:32.56 | Inv_arp | context "A" is incoming IVR , "B" is internal siphones, "C" is outbound , A includes=> B and B => C every thing works fine except, any call that comes in "A" thru IVR can press 91 to go out "C" |
| 07:33.09 | PTG123 | Inv_arp: this isn't the #asterisk channel |
| 07:33.16 | ST-3 | haha |
| 07:33.25 | PTG123 | er |
| 07:33.29 | PTG123 | #Gay_Men_in_planes |
| 07:33.34 | Inv_arp | lol |
| 07:33.39 | Eight | That had better be missing an R =p |
| 07:33.40 | coppice | well, older than 1968 means vintage, and vintage means lots of costly nursing |
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| 07:34.10 | firestrm | this is the plane i want to build some day. http://www.velocityaircraft.com/airmodel.html |
| 07:34.27 | bkw_ | http://adcache.aerotraderonline.com/2/6/6/77727566.htm |
| 07:34.28 | ST-3 | coppice: not if it has been properly maintained |
| 07:34.28 | PTG123 | ah planes are the same 1950-2004 |
| 07:34.32 | bkw_ | thats more my pace anyway |
| 07:34.34 | PTG123 | they don't change much at all except instruments |
| 07:34.38 | t3t | I've always wanted to fly a plane with a canard |
| 07:35.01 | Eight | ya, the velocities are cool. |
| 07:35.08 | Eight | aren't they trying to get certified now? |
| 07:35.11 | firestrm | t3t, ive tried it at oshkosh, it flew like a dream |
| 07:35.16 | t3t | PTG123: engine instrumentation has advanced quite a bit in the last few years |
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| 07:35.37 | t3t | firestrm: smoother than a horiz-stab? |
| 07:35.38 | Eight | if you're looking for a piston single, the Cirrus is pretty swell. |
| 07:35.40 | firestrm | Eight, i think theyve been trying for a few years.. |
| 07:36.01 | PTG123 | t3t: gimme a good gps, and i am all set |
| 07:36.07 | PTG123 | when are they getting rid of ifr |
| 07:36.10 | firestrm | t3t, smooth as silk, i was just 30 min before bouncing around in a 172.. |
| 07:36.11 | ST-3 | eight: its all about the later T210s |
| 07:36.15 | bkw_ | welcome to #asterisk-flight |
| 07:36.22 | bkw_ | :P |
| 07:36.24 | PTG123 | they keep promising to get rid of it :) and all the old fart pilots argue |
| 07:36.31 | t3t | PTG123: gps is the best addition so far to planes |
| 07:36.35 | PTG123 | firestrm: are you an old fart pilot arguing for ifr? |
| 07:36.43 | coppice | ST-3: the planes I've dealt with that are 35 years old have needed complete reskins |
| 07:36.58 | tuxinator_linuxM | A Cirrus looks interesting, http://www.velocityaircraft.com/airmodel.html |
| 07:37.03 | bkw_ | ok |
| 07:37.03 | tuxinator_linuxM | ops |
| 07:37.04 | ST-3 | coppice: are you talking about fabric covered planes? |
| 07:37.05 | bkw_ | here is one for ya |
| 07:37.08 | tuxinator_linuxM | http://www.cirrusdesign.com/index.html |
| 07:37.08 | bkw_ | who agress with http://www.fairtax.org/ |
| 07:37.12 | bkw_ | http://www.fairtax.org/ |
| 07:37.13 | bkw_ | check it |
| 07:37.22 | bkw_ | who thinks thats a good idea |
| 07:37.30 | coppice | ST-3 no. metal. they are at their fatigue life at that age |
| 07:37.31 | Eight | the Cirrus are made just north of here. I went to one of their 'migrations' (first one, actually) a while back. |
| 07:37.31 | PTG123 | cirrus: is very inovative |
| 07:37.36 | Eight | Great friggin' plane. |
| 07:37.44 | Eight | Flew one to my cabin and back. |
| 07:37.58 | PTG123 | i don't agree at all |
| 07:38.01 | firestrm | PTG123, nothing will get rid of IFR, you can have all the toys in the world, but the more technology you have, the more things that can go wrong. you allways need to be able to drop down to basics and get the plane on the ground. |
| 07:38.03 | bkw_ | PTG123, what? |
| 07:38.04 | PTG123 | i think everyone should pay the SAME TAXES |
| 07:38.04 | ST-3 | coppice: reskin the whole plane? Are you on the coast or somethibng? |
| 07:38.08 | PTG123 | why the hell do i pay more b/c i make more |
| 07:38.11 | PTG123 | thats bullshit |
| 07:38.17 | PTG123 | i work harder, so i pay more, what the fuck? |
| 07:38.19 | bkw_ | PTG123, no this would give you control over your tax liability |
| 07:38.22 | bkw_ | spend more pay more |
| 07:38.26 | bkw_ | spend less pay less |
| 07:38.30 | PTG123 | bkw_: but why b/c i spend i should pay more? |
| 07:38.40 | PTG123 | bkw_: spending makes the economy better, creates more jobs, etc |
| 07:38.44 | coppice | ST-3: I've seen a few airliners that have had 100% reskins in one go. |
| 07:38.46 | PTG123 | bkw_: discouraging it would be a VERY bad idea |
| 07:38.54 | ST-3 | coppice: TTAF? |
| 07:38.54 | t3t | it's about that time again... good night, gentlemen. |
| 07:38.56 | bkw_ | you must not have thought about it much then |
| 07:38.57 | tuxinator_linuxM | PTG123, tax the harder working, that's liberal america for you |
| 07:38.59 | bkw_ | go read more |
| 07:39.02 | PTG123 | bkw_: hence the reasonj delaware is the most profitable state per capita |
| 07:39.17 | Eight | PTG123: start a subchapter S corp, and only get taxed on dividends =p |
| 07:39.20 | bkw_ | I pay 900+/mth in taxes |
| 07:39.30 | firestrm | coppice, you remember the 737 that lost its top in hawaii.. it was repaired, and still flies today... |
| 07:39.30 | Eight | PTG123: if you're making alot in consulting it's retarded not to. |
| 07:39.31 | PTG123 | Eight: i haven't paid taxes in 4 years |
| 07:39.39 | bkw_ | haha |
| 07:39.39 | PTG123 | Eight: i have a very good accountant, and love the tax laws |
| 07:39.40 | Eight | PTG123: so stop bitching. |
| 07:39.43 | tuxinator_linuxM | I put 10 mexicans through college with my taxes |
| 07:39.51 | PTG123 | Eight: so just don't change the system on me :) |
| 07:39.54 | bkw_ | well all this drug money would get to pay their own share too |
| 07:39.56 | bkw_ | right now they don't |
| 07:40.19 | PTG123 | Eight: and i have 4 sub-s corps :) |
| 07:40.45 | bkw_ | well if you think everyone would pay the same tax depending on what they spend |
| 07:40.54 | coppice | firestrm: why not. repair them enough and they do on forever. The full reskins usually seem to happen only if the fuel consumption is still competitive and boeing and airbus have heavy backlogs |
| 07:41.01 | bkw_ | I hate having to pay 30+% of my income in taxes |
| 07:41.08 | PTG123 | that discourages spending, which hurts our economy |
| 07:41.18 | bkw_ | I doubt that |
| 07:41.25 | PTG123 | its a fact |
| 07:41.31 | bkw_ | I don't feel it would |
| 07:41.34 | PTG123 | people would start spending money outside of this country |
| 07:41.37 | bkw_ | it wouldn't discourage me |
| 07:41.46 | bkw_ | it would give me control of how much taxes I would have to pay |
| 07:42.08 | bkw_ | I still think I would pay less than I do now even if my spending stayed the same |
| 07:42.20 | PTG123 | bkw_: well i spend a shitload of money.. if i had to pay taxes i wouldn't spend near as much.. so it would me :) |
| 07:42.31 | bkw_ | I wish they didn't tax food/clothes |
| 07:42.31 | PTG123 | besides how would that work for businesses.. business expenses are write offs |
| 07:42.35 | bkw_ | that would be a big help |
| 07:42.38 | PTG123 | but your saying if i spend the money for business i pay taxes? |
| 07:42.48 | bkw_ | you didn't read the site did you |
| 07:42.50 | PTG123 | bkw_: they don't tax food here |
| 07:42.53 | PTG123 | bkw_: no i am lazy |
| 07:43.01 | PTG123 | bkw: besides i like rambling |
| 07:43.09 | firestrm | well.. the "opensource" g729 codec is working well.. now if i could only get my other * box running.. |
| 07:43.20 | PTG123 | firestrm: which one? |
| 07:43.22 | Qwell | I'm gonna move to NV. No sales tax, and I can write off my gambling losses. :p |
| 07:43.29 | bkw_ | business to business transactiosn wouldn't be taxed |
| 07:43.35 | PTG123 | Qwell: haha i thought they had sales tax |
| 07:43.41 | firestrm | PTG123, the intel codec |
| 07:43.42 | Qwell | not last I checked |
| 07:43.45 | PTG123 | bkw_: so if i buy evrything as abusiness i don't pay tax? |
| 07:43.47 | PTG123 | firestrm: got a url? |
| 07:44.15 | coppice | firstrm: open source is the wrong term for that code |
| 07:44.21 | bkw_ | well they have some provision in there for that |
| 07:44.23 | bkw_ | i'm trying to find it now |
| 07:44.32 | firestrm | coppice, ok source version.. |
| 07:44.50 | bkw_ | What is taxed? The FairTax is a single-rate, federal sales tax collected only once, at the final point of purchase of new goods and services for personal consumption. Used items are not taxed. Business-to-business purchases for the production of goods and services are not taxed. |
| 07:45.08 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 07:45.14 | bkw_ | Exactly what taxes are abolished? The FairTax is replacement, not reform. It replaces federal income taxes including, personal, estate, gift, capital gains, alternative minimum, Social Security, Medicare, self-employment, and corporate taxes. |
| 07:45.25 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 07:45.32 | bkw_ | PTG123, does that look better? |
| 07:45.42 | Qwell | If they do that, I'll just grow my own damn food. :p |
| 07:45.45 | PTG123 | bkw_: its a pipe dream.. No because basicallyu we would be paying 30% tax? |
| 07:45.53 | tuxinator_linuxM | Food won't be taxed |
| 07:45.55 | PTG123 | bkw_: b/c we would pay that ON top of sales tax? by the state? |
| 07:45.56 | bkw_ | go read |
| 07:46.01 | bkw_ | GO read |
| 07:46.02 | PTG123 | on top of city tax, and county tax |
| 07:46.05 | bkw_ | go read |
| 07:46.07 | PTG123 | well it would have to be :) |
| 07:46.10 | bkw_ | no |
| 07:46.12 | bkw_ | haha |
| 07:46.17 | PTG123 | yah the state needs its money |
| 07:46.19 | PTG123 | so does the city |
| 07:46.20 | PTG123 | and the county |
| 07:46.24 | bkw_ | the state can get is money too |
| 07:46.25 | bkw_ | :P |
| 07:46.30 | PTG123 | heh m point is |
| 07:46.33 | PTG123 | you would be at like 50% tax |
| 07:46.37 | bkw_ | nope |
| 07:46.37 | mogorman | hey anyone in here good with linux network routing? |
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| 07:46.48 | firestrm | PTG123, hey , it would be like canada |
| 07:46.50 | PTG123 | besides its basicallyt he same thing we have now.. the only thing your not taxing is savings |
| 07:47.00 | PTG123 | and that hurts our economy |
| 07:47.02 | bkw_ | PTG123, the 16th amendment would be removed from the constituition |
| 07:47.15 | firestrm | oh.. im wrong.. canada is 75% tax |
| 07:47.16 | PTG123 | right now whatever you make you get taxed on.. they assume you spend all your money :) |
| 07:47.27 | PTG123 | firestrm: not as bad as france |
| 07:47.28 | bkw_ | you're taxed when you get it |
| 07:47.29 | bkw_ | and when you spend it |
| 07:47.36 | bkw_ | so its more like 50+% now anyway |
| 07:47.49 | bkw_ | its CRAZY man |
| 07:47.51 | bkw_ | CRAZY |
| 07:47.54 | bkw_ | I just wanna pay less |
| 07:48.02 | bkw_ | I don't think the gov needs 900+ dollars out of me a month |
| 07:48.05 | bkw_ | thats so not fair |
| 07:48.20 | DyOS | has anyone ever set up an x100p card? I just got one the other day and i'm trying to configure it. However, whenever I plug it in it takes the line off the hook...is this normal or do i have a disfunctional card? |
| 07:49.02 | firestrm | DyOS, its normal, you probbly have the tigerjet drivers loaded.. |
| 07:49.26 | PTG123 | yah but the way it is now people don't realize it |
| 07:49.29 | DyOS | i followed the direction from wiki exactly...how can i test to see if i have the wrong drivers installed? |
| 07:49.31 | PTG123 | bkw_: so incorporate, and get paid 1099 |
| 07:49.40 | bkw_ | that would suck |
| 07:49.44 | sivana | tigerjet.. is that a clone? |
| 07:49.47 | bkw_ | I would have to pay more |
| 07:49.49 | PTG123 | bkw_: our tax system was devised by darwin, survival of the smartest :) |
| 07:49.59 | PTG123 | bkw_: you pay alot less |
| 07:49.59 | bkw_ | our tax system is whacked |
| 07:50.00 | sivana | PTG123: where are you? |
| 07:50.05 | bkw_ | 1099 no I pay more |
| 07:50.08 | PTG123 | bkw_: and your employer saves 15% which he can use to pay you more |
| 07:50.15 | PTG123 | bkw_: no you don't |
| 07:50.15 | bkw_ | but then I pay more |
| 07:50.21 | PTG123 | sivana: the us? |
| 07:50.24 | bkw_ | I have to pay that 15% too |
| 07:50.32 | sivana | oh... who's in Canada? |
| 07:50.35 | PTG123 | bkw_: no you don't :) you just need to spend your money properly, track everything and have a good accountant |
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| 07:50.41 | sivana | it's only 50% tax.. hehe |
| 07:50.42 | bkw_ | haha |
| 07:51.05 | tuxinator_linuxM | Night guys |
| 07:51.07 | bkw_ | na I would get an audit if i did that |
| 07:51.16 | bkw_ | i'm not too lucky |
| 07:51.20 | odie_flocon | hey all. |
| 07:51.23 | rvhi | in my ivr system, press 1 for sales, also i have extension 11 to goto |
| 07:51.40 | rvhi | so i have exten => 1 and exten => 11 |
| 07:51.51 | bkw_ | PTG123, you didn't read the thing about the rebate checks either did ya |
| 07:52.01 | DyOS | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:52.02 | rvhi | however * always catches 1, not 11 |
| 07:52.13 | rvhi | any suggestion? |
| 07:52.15 | bkw_ | response timeout |
| 07:52.18 | bkw_ | digittimeout |
| 07:52.25 | bkw_ | check the sample configs |
| 07:52.30 | rvhi | i have digittimeout 3 |
| 07:52.33 | bkw_ | raise it up |
| 07:52.51 | bkw_ | post your config on a pastebin |
| 07:52.54 | rvhi | actually i press 1,1 very quickly |
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| 07:53.10 | rvhi | ok, let me try |
| 07:53.12 | PTG123 | bkw_: haha my eyes our blurry its hard to concentrate |
| 07:53.32 | bkw_ | and your english is just as bad? |
| 07:53.34 | bkw_ | :P |
| 07:53.44 | bkw_ | our=are? |
| 07:53.46 | PTG123 | phoenetics |
| 07:53.51 | bkw_ | haha |
| 07:53.53 | bkw_ | it works for me |
| 07:53.59 | PTG123 | heh |
| 07:54.03 | PTG123 | it comes from being so intelligent ;) |
| 07:54.12 | bkw_ | you have a massive brain |
| 07:54.15 | bkw_ | ITS HUGE |
| 07:54.16 | odie_flocon | hey bkw_, I've been looking around but havn't found anything yet |
| 07:54.16 | PTG123 | i always make those mistakes, and i could read what iw rote 1000 times and sitll miss them |
| 07:54.25 | bkw_ | odie_flocon, for? |
| 07:54.36 | bkw_ | than,then |
| 07:54.47 | bkw_ | your, you're |
| 07:54.59 | bkw_ | this crazy language here |
| 07:55.00 | odie_flocon | but can * run on osX? |
| 07:55.06 | bkw_ | odie_flocon, yes |
| 07:55.06 | DyOS | A HA! i do have tiger jet drivers installed how do i fix that! |
| 07:55.11 | odie_flocon | :D |
| 07:55.13 | odie_flocon | really |
| 07:55.15 | odie_flocon | cool. |
| 07:55.21 | rvhi | http://pastebin.ca/7787 |
| 07:55.22 | bkw_ | DyOS, you have a clone? |
| 07:55.27 | bkw_ | tigerjet is normal for the card |
| 07:55.29 | PTG123 | Its lkie tihs hvae you seen how you can stlil raed tiss? Because yuor bairn is so samrt? |
| 07:55.32 | bkw_ | from digium and the clone |
| 07:55.33 | odie_flocon | the hardware will work on it as well right? |
| 07:56.04 | bsdfreak | heh |
| 07:56.12 | bkw_ | rvhi, put _1X,1,NoOp |
| 07:56.14 | bkw_ | in there somewhere |
| 07:56.15 | Qwell | PTG123: There was a little script somebody write, to do that to any text. |
| 07:56.17 | bkw_ | just as a test |
| 07:56.24 | bkw_ | odie_flocon, No |
| 07:56.26 | DyOS | bkw_ i don't think i have a clone it said x100p when i bought it online i guess it could be a clone |
| 07:56.28 | bkw_ | zero hardware on OSX |
| 07:56.29 | bsdfreak | Must.. eat ... brains. |
| 07:56.38 | odie_flocon | ohh how do I get hardware for *?? |
| 07:56.39 | PTG123 | Heh its pretty cool that you read it so easily |
| 07:56.43 | bkw_ | odie_flocon, port the drivers |
| 07:56.45 | odie_flocon | on Mac? |
| 07:56.47 | sivana | DyOS: where'd you buy it? |
| 07:56.47 | DyOS | well if those drivers are the right drivers how come when i plug my phone line into that card it takes my line off the hook righ away and won't work? |
| 07:56.51 | bkw_ | PORT PORT PORT |
| 07:56.54 | DyOS | ebay por vida! |
| 07:56.58 | odie_flocon | hmm ok. |
| 07:57.03 | bkw_ | DyOS, you DORK |
| 07:57.07 | DyOS | :) |
| 07:57.09 | bkw_ | the x101p is an FXO |
| 07:57.10 | coppice | STARBOARD STARBOARD STARBOARD |
| 07:57.11 | bkw_ | not an FXS |
| 07:57.21 | PTG123 | all this asterisk talk confuses me |
| 07:57.22 | DyOS | what does that mean? |
| 07:57.28 | bkw_ | the FXO doesn't generate dialtone |
| 07:57.29 | DyOS | does that mean i'm stupid and bought the wrong card? |
| 07:57.31 | bkw_ | it accepts dialtone |
| 07:57.41 | bkw_ | FXS can drive a phone and make it ring |
| 07:57.41 | DyOS | what do you mean? |
| 07:57.43 | sivana | I see a chargeback coming up |
| 07:58.13 | DyOS | wait bkw so it's normal activity that when an fxs card is plugged into a pots line that if you connect a regular analog phone to the pots line that the line will not have a dial tone? |
| 07:58.36 | bkw_ | no |
| 07:58.41 | bkw_ | you plug phones into FXS's |
| 07:58.45 | bkw_ | and phonelines into FXO's |
| 07:59.11 | rvhi | bkw_, you are the MAN! |
| 07:59.16 | sivana | X100P = FXO = phoneline |
| 07:59.20 | rvhi | why _1X does the trick? |
| 07:59.25 | rvhi | it is not even called |
| 07:59.34 | bkw_ | rvhi, coudl be a bug ... who knows |
| 07:59.35 | firestrm | if you plug pots into fxs you get smoke |
| 07:59.39 | odie_flocon | so in order for me to use a digium card, I need to port drivers to OS/X right? |
| 07:59.47 | bkw_ | odie_flocon, sure |
| 07:59.54 | bkw_ | if you do i'll love you long time |
| 08:00.12 | odie_flocon | well I have a client that ony has mac stuff. |
| 08:00.21 | odie_flocon | and wants a PBX.. |
| 08:00.36 | firestrm | odie_flocon, there are help groups for that.. |
| 08:00.39 | coppice | bkw_ shouldn't you be offering incentives? :-) |
| 08:00.44 | odie_flocon | so if I can get him started with VOIP. |
| 08:00.45 | DyOS | hey bkw...in other words are you saying i should've bought fxo and i bought fxs? |
| 08:00.49 | bkw_ | sexual favors not enuf? |
| 08:00.52 | odie_flocon | then try to port the drivers. |
| 08:01.01 | rvhi | in extension context, is 11 always higher priority than _1X? |
| 08:01.04 | firestrm | odie_flocon, i think there is even a 12 step program.. |
| 08:01.05 | bkw_ | DyOS, no you have an FXO now |
| 08:01.07 | sivana | DyOS: first, you shouldn't have gone cheap and went eBay |
| 08:01.10 | rvhi | or just the order it shows up in the file? |
| 08:01.19 | PTG123 | why does anyone use hard lines? :) get your phone lines handed off via sip.. and don't mess with lowsy hardware |
| 08:01.21 | bkw_ | X100P = FXO |
| 08:01.28 | sivana | DyOS: does it say Digium or Linux Support Services on the card? |
| 08:01.30 | *** part/#asterisk mogorman (~mogorman@pcp03051659pcs.huntsv01.al.comcast.net) |
| 08:01.34 | firestrm | iaxy=fxs.. |
| 08:01.39 | DyOS | nope |
| 08:01.40 | bkw_ | ding ding ding |
| 08:01.41 | bkw_ | we have a winner |
| 08:01.45 | Qwell | DyOS: How much did you pay? |
| 08:01.50 | bkw_ | 2 dollah |
| 08:01.51 | Qwell | $15 or $100? |
| 08:01.53 | bkw_ | make you hollah |
| 08:01.54 | DyOS | it was really expensive |
| 08:01.59 | sivana | lol |
| 08:01.59 | DyOS | $502 |
| 08:02.03 | sivana | what? |
| 08:02.03 | bkw_ | WTF |
| 08:02.05 | DyOS | j/k like 8 bucks |
| 08:02.06 | Qwell | ...for an x100p?! |
| 08:02.06 | DyOS | :) |
| 08:02.07 | bkw_ | for an x100p? |
| 08:02.09 | Qwell | yeah, heh |
| 08:02.10 | bkw_ | shit |
| 08:02.10 | DyOS | haha |
| 08:02.11 | Qwell | clone |
| 08:02.13 | bkw_ | was about to say get the ball bat |
| 08:02.16 | bkw_ | we about to fuck someone up |
| 08:02.17 | DyOS | ebay por vida! |
| 08:02.23 | Qwell | bkw_: I'd have flown my ass out there to help :p |
| 08:02.28 | DyOS | so are you saying this thing is shit |
| 08:02.28 | bkw_ | haha |
| 08:02.31 | DyOS | and i'm fucked in other words |
| 08:02.32 | DyOS | just say it |
| 08:02.33 | bkw_ | DyOS, no |
| 08:02.34 | DyOS | don't be gentle |
| 08:02.35 | sivana | pfft... 8 bucks |
| 08:02.38 | bkw_ | it will work if you plug a phoneline into it |
| 08:02.41 | bkw_ | from the telco |
| 08:02.45 | DyOS | i did |
| 08:02.50 | bkw_ | that will work |
| 08:02.55 | PTG123 | bkw_ is saying it will cost you another $8 to get it working |
| 08:02.58 | DyOS | and it p9icks up the line |
| 08:03.03 | sivana | he's saying it goes off hook |
| 08:03.07 | DyOS | yes |
| 08:03.08 | DyOS | ! |
| 08:03.11 | DyOS | goes off the hook |
| 08:03.14 | DyOS | and nothing works right |
| 08:03.18 | bkw_ | no |
| 08:03.23 | bkw_ | you don't know how it works I suspect |
| 08:03.27 | DyOS | and if i plug a regular analog phone into my telco line it's off the hook |
| 08:03.28 | firestrm | DyOS, ztcfg -vvvvvvvvv |
| 08:03.28 | bkw_ | ;) |
| 08:03.35 | bkw_ | ya ya ya |
| 08:03.37 | DyOS | ztcfg -vvvvvvvvvv? |
| 08:03.39 | bkw_ | ok bed time for me baby |
| 08:03.43 | sivana | heh |
| 08:03.43 | DyOS | hey |
| 08:03.44 | DyOS | wait |
| 08:03.45 | sivana | wuss |
| 08:03.48 | DyOS | tell me how this thing works first |
| 08:03.49 | PTG123 | should i got o bed or make a sandwhich? hmmm |
| 08:03.49 | DyOS | then go to be |
| 08:03.50 | DyOS | de |
| 08:03.54 | odie_flocon | later bkw |
| 08:03.59 | bkw_ | these other guys here can help ya know |
| 08:04.03 | DyOS | hmmm |
| 08:04.06 | bkw_ | i'm not the only person with asterisk clue on the planet |
| 08:04.07 | sivana | I can't |
| 08:04.07 | bkw_ | :P |
| 08:04.11 | bkw_ | why? |
| 08:04.12 | DyOS | i just want to know if it's broke or not |
| 08:04.14 | bkw_ | if he pays anyone will help |
| 08:04.14 | sivana | bkw_: is the guru |
| 08:04.15 | firestrm | DyOS, zttool and ztcfg are your friend.. |
| 08:04.25 | DyOS | ok... |
| 08:04.28 | sivana | DyOS: do those things first |
| 08:04.30 | bkw_ | I don't feel like a guru |
| 08:04.46 | bkw_ | gayru maybe? |
| 08:04.48 | sivana | :) |
| 08:04.50 | bkw_ | guru.. hrm.. no clue |
| 08:04.50 | sivana | heh |
| 08:04.54 | firestrm | bkw_, your my guru :) |
| 08:04.56 | bkw_ | got clue? |
| 08:05.02 | bkw_ | har har har |
| 08:05.06 | coppice | i do yoga, so i do feel like a guru sometimes :-) |
| 08:05.42 | firestrm | ln -s /dev/null /dev/clue |
| 08:06.44 | DyOS | i rant those commands and uh |
| 08:06.44 | DyOS | they didn't exactly work |
| 08:06.44 | odie_flocon | so * will do all sip phones etc bkw? |
| 08:06.44 | odie_flocon | under OS/X |
| 08:06.44 | PTG123 | odie_flocon: yes |
| 08:06.44 | bkw_ | odie_flocon, yes |
| 08:06.44 | bkw_ | ok bed time |
| 08:06.44 | sivana | DyOS: what do you mean, "didn't exactly work"? |
| 08:06.44 | bkw_ | PTG123, you're in charge |
| 08:06.44 | bkw_ | here is the big stick |
| 08:06.44 | sivana | bkw_: 'night |
| 08:06.45 | PTG123 | bkw_: oh please no |
| 08:06.45 | DyOS | unable to open /dev/zap/ctl |
| 08:06.45 | sivana | did you install zaptel? |
| 08:06.45 | PTG123 | DyOS: you have zaptel installed? |
| 08:06.45 | DyOS | and unalbe to open master device /dev/zap/ctl |
| 08:06.45 | sivana | :) |
| 08:06.45 | DyOS | um |
| 08:06.45 | PTG123 | hah |
| 08:06.45 | DyOS | yea of course what do i look like |
| 08:06.45 | rvhi | is there a way to send instant message to a SIP phone from *? |
| 08:06.45 | DyOS | .... |
| 08:06.45 | DyOS | brb |
| 08:06.45 | sivana | DyOS: did you modprobe? |
| 08:06.45 | Landrocker | DyOS, does /dev/zap exist, or are there just a stack of zap* devices in /dev? |
| 08:06.45 | PTG123 | brb, making a hamburger |
| 08:06.47 | Landrocker | you might find you have things like /dev/zapctl instead |
| 08:07.01 | DyOS | yea well i set this up last night....so i did a modprobe and i took all the steps that i read in teh guide |
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| 08:07.05 | DyOS | looked like everythign was working |
| 08:07.08 | DyOS | liek nothing failed |
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| 08:07.34 | DyOS | dev zap does not exist |
| 08:07.40 | DyOS | where do i get zaptel to install from |
| 08:07.41 | DyOS | ? |
| 08:07.48 | Landrocker | www.asterisk.org |
| 08:08.21 | sivana | DyOS: what do you see in /var/log/messages when you do modprobe zaptel, modprobe x1xxp or whatever the second one is |
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| 08:08.49 | firestrm | that was wierd.. |
| 08:09.05 | sivana | ? |
| 08:09.13 | odie_flocon | firestrm you from bc. |
| 08:09.27 | firestrm | yes |
| 08:09.33 | coppice | wow, really old |
| 08:09.34 | odie_flocon | cool. |
| 08:09.38 | sivana | heh |
| 08:09.38 | odie_flocon | I'm from calgary. |
| 08:09.58 | firestrm | im going to calgary next week.. |
| 08:10.09 | odie_flocon | cool. |
| 08:10.13 | firestrm | or is it the week after.. cant remember.. |
| 08:10.25 | DyOS | that messages file in teh /var/log directory looks generic |
| 08:10.30 | firestrm | my wife is doing training there.. |
| 08:10.46 | odie_flocon | yeah. she is training or being trained? |
| 08:10.46 | firestrm | so im along for the ride.. |
| 08:10.48 | DyOS | just says the same thing over and over again |
| 08:11.05 | firestrm | IBM training.. she works for IBM |
| 08:11.17 | odie_flocon | cool. |
| 08:11.27 | odie_flocon | I used to work for IBM. |
| 08:11.40 | odie_flocon | I did phone support |
| 08:11.48 | firestrm | they pay good, but they own everything you think.. |
| 08:12.01 | odie_flocon | I know |
| 08:12.05 | firestrm | the nda is quite opressive.. |
| 08:12.26 | odie_flocon | have you seen what IBM is doing for linux lately |
| 08:13.03 | firestrm | not really, not my area.. |
| 08:13.07 | odie_flocon | they are offering prizes for porting software to linux on the Mac. |
| 08:13.30 | firestrm | hmm... linux on crack err,. mac.. |
| 08:14.08 | odie_flocon | you have to admit, the mac has it's place. |
| 08:14.25 | firestrm | i shouldnt be too hard on mac though.. i found myself admireing the new mac nano thingy.. |
| 08:14.31 | coppice | makes sense. people in .cn think lenovo were crazy to buy ibm's pc business |
| 08:15.22 | odie_flocon | isn't that nice. |
| 08:15.30 | odie_flocon | the minimac. |
| 08:16.06 | firestrm | just gotta figure out where to put the screen.. |
| 08:16.20 | PTG123 | which lotus firestrm? |
| 08:16.24 | PTG123 | elise? |
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| 08:17.21 | firestrm | PTG123, no even more rare,, it was an X body.. elan development platform.. im currently restoring it.. |
| 08:17.42 | PTG123 | firestrm: ah cool.. i took the easy way out and just bought a 2004 corvette z06 :) |
| 08:17.48 | PTG123 | i didn't have enough time to rebuild one |
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| 08:17.54 | PTG123 | i wanted a 1965 cobra |
| 08:18.10 | Newbie___ | does anyone know if any VoIP provide call to cell phone in a unlimited package ? |
| 08:18.23 | Newbie___ | i only know telextreme.com |
| 08:19.04 | firestrm | PTG123, the fun part is having to machine custom parts.. have all the blueprints, but you can exactly go to the parts store.. |
| 08:19.35 | PTG123 | firestrm: damm my tiny garage would neve rhave the room for the tools needed :) |
| 08:19.50 | PTG123 | firestrm: after i build a ne whouse then i can look into building my own car |
| 08:20.30 | firestrm | PTG123, its a nice car though.. weighs 1200lbs, and sports a 4.5l v6 supercharged engine 450hp.. its like a freaking 4 wheel motorcycle. |
| 08:20.44 | PTG123 | cool whats the 0-60 on it? |
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| 08:20.48 | firestrm | 3.7s |
| 08:20.54 | coppice | who's engine is in that? |
| 08:21.03 | PTG123 | cool i'd like to race you :) |
| 08:21.09 | firestrm | :) |
| 08:21.24 | firestrm | coppice, powerplant made by GM |
| 08:22.12 | firestrm | PTG123, all wheel drive.. it lauches like its shot out of a catapult |
| 08:22.16 | coppice | what format is it, because those cars must need a really low profile engine? |
| 08:22.41 | firestrm | coppice, mid engine transverse.. |
| 08:23.05 | coppice | a V or a flat or what. I can't figure out how a car gets that low |
| 08:23.22 | firestrm | PTG123, ive managed to do 4 wheel smokeshow with it.. |
| 08:23.34 | PTG123 | firestrm: how much did the car cost you to pick up? |
| 08:23.35 | firestrm | coppice, its a 60 dev v6 |
| 08:24.15 | DyOS | so when i run ztcfg the error i get is /dev/zap/ctl:no such file or directory when i run zttool the error i get is unable to open /dev/zap/ctl: no such file or directory |
| 08:24.15 | firestrm | PTG123, that the best part, i got it for 19k at auction.. |
| 08:24.20 | DyOS | can someone offer me insight on those |
| 08:24.28 | PTG123 | was it running when you got it? |
| 08:24.47 | firestrm | PTG123, it was show room.. no one with any money showed up. |
| 08:25.05 | firestrm | i stole it practically |
| 08:26.00 | firestrm | i then proceeded to thrash it thouroughly for the next few years.. now im doing a complete teardown rebuld and am goun to sell it after.. |
| 08:26.55 | firestrm | the first words out of my dad's mouth when he saw it was "oh shit.. your goinna kill youself" |
| 08:27.20 | Qwell | DyOS: Did you install zaptel properly? |
| 08:27.38 | firestrm | its the most fun ive ever had in a car.. i will miss it when i sell it.. |
| 08:28.08 | firestrm | DyOS, what kernel are you running? |
| 08:28.38 | DyOS | not sure if i instasll zaptel properly is there a read me on that i'm having the worst luck trying to install crap on linux |
| 08:28.45 | DyOS | how do i know what kernel |
| 08:28.49 | DyOS | i think it's the latest fc3 |
| 08:28.59 | Qwell | 2.6.8ish |
| 08:29.03 | Qwell | uname -r |
| 08:29.15 | PTG123 | firestrm: damn lucky bastard :) |
| 08:29.50 | firestrm | ok , you need to set up.. the udev |
| 08:30.05 | DyOS | 2.6.10-1.770_FC3 |
| 08:30.20 | DyOS | how? |
| 08:30.28 | Qwell | been too long since I've used fedora. I gave up with FC2 came out |
| 08:30.36 | Qwell | when* |
| 08:30.47 | firestrm | PTG123, the first trick i figured out was 4 wheel doughnuts.. spin right on own axies.. |
| 08:30.57 | coppice | I was on a short course at cranfield institute, where lotus do much of their development work, when they were doign the pioneering active suspension stuff. we got to look around, and there was some fun stuff going there. |
| 08:31.02 | firestrm | DyOS, readme.udev |
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| 08:31.40 | Qwell | DyOS: Before you ask - its in the zaptel source dir |
| 08:31.41 | firestrm | PTG123, the best part was the drivetrain was so solid.. it took the punishment and asked for more.. |
| 08:31.57 | PTG123 | firestrm: heh your making me jealous |
| 08:32.17 | PTG123 | firestrm: although i love my car it tracks like a missle, and only 2 cars in production can beat me |
| 08:32.19 | firestrm | PTG123, it will be for sale.. in a few months.. |
| 08:32.51 | firestrm | PTG123, only 50 in existance |
| 08:32.52 | PTG123 | why not keep it? |
| 08:33.05 | firestrm | PTG123, tech wreck victim... need the money.. |
| 08:33.35 | vpaskov | hi |
| 08:33.53 | vpaskov | pls telll me , how make outgoing calls |
| 08:34.15 | Qwell | vpaskov: Pick up phone. Dial digits. Wait for ring. |
| 08:34.17 | firestrm | vpaskov, you pick up the phone, and push the little buttons |
| 08:34.20 | Qwell | or, ask a better question |
| 08:34.20 | PTG123 | firestrm: you an EE? |
| 08:34.36 | coppice | i used to do avionics - I was a WMD in a previous life :-) |
| 08:34.46 | firestrm | PTG123, used to be.. out of work for too long, had to change careers.. |
| 08:35.04 | PTG123 | firestrm: you still remember how to do it? :) |
| 08:35.33 | firestrm | PTG123, i still do it in my sleep.. i also have a small company on the side, i still do small projects.. |
| 08:35.48 | firestrm | PTG123, www.vrl.ca |
| 08:36.22 | DyOS | does zap/*:root:root:05700 go in teh 50-udev.rules file? |
| 08:36.38 | firestrm | DyOS, what does the readme say? |
| 08:36.48 | PTG123 | you frequent here often? |
| 08:36.50 | DyOS | i think that's what it says but i'm not sure |
| 08:36.55 | DyOS | i don't want ot jack up my computer |
| 08:37.09 | firestrm | DyOS, hang on.. i go read it again.. i cant remember.. |
| 08:37.22 | PTG123 | firestrm: i would think with one or two good things you could make a forunte |
| 08:37.23 | DyOS | once you edit the 50-udev.rules file do you have to reboot your pc or does it configure automatically |
| 08:37.23 | Supaplex | DyOS: then don't use a jack. use a forklift. ;) or a handcart. |
| 08:37.26 | PTG123 | er fortune |
| 08:37.49 | SexyKen | What the hell. |
| 08:37.52 | SexyKen | What kinda car preston? |
| 08:38.01 | PTG123 | kinda car what? :) |
| 08:38.09 | SexyKen | You said you love your car |
| 08:38.33 | SexyKen | What kind of car |
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| 08:38.57 | firestrm | DyOS, no it goes in 50-udev-permissions.. |
| 08:39.14 | PTG123 | 2k4 Z06 Corvetter |
| 08:39.25 | SexyKen | Damn dude -- those are nice. |
| 08:39.41 | PTG123 | hah yah it is :) |
| 08:39.43 | SexyKen | My Chevelle (before the motor blew) would be about a car lenth ahead tho |
| 08:39.46 | firestrm | PTG123, i agree.. the only problem is that development takes time, time = money, and i aint got any.. |
| 08:39.51 | PTG123 | no way :) |
| 08:40.07 | PTG123 | firestrm: hah that coul dbe a problem.. gotta make time i suppose |
| 08:40.12 | PTG123 | your a pilot shouldn't you have tons of free time? |
| 08:40.18 | firestrm | rotfl |
| 08:40.19 | SexyKen | No way ? |
| 08:40.35 | PTG123 | SexyKen: 0-60 in like 3.4secs.. 1/4 mile in 10secs |
| 08:40.40 | PTG123 | your chevelle was faster? |
| 08:40.42 | firestrm | im lucky to get 4 hours of sleep.. |
| 08:40.58 | firestrm | but if current projects work out i should be ok.. |
| 08:41.07 | SexyKen | 9's |
| 08:41.14 | SexyKen | 530hp with 4.11 gears |
| 08:41.21 | firestrm | maybe even be able to quit the flying biz and build my business. |
| 08:41.39 | PTG123 | hehe |
| 08:41.41 | PTG123 | 540 at wheels? |
| 08:41.43 | PTG123 | or at crank? |
| 08:42.29 | PTG123 | hehe |
| 08:42.49 | firestrm | 0-250kts in 30 sec |
| 08:43.11 | firestrm | faster if i dont climb out.. |
| 08:43.20 | PTG123 | hehehe |
| 08:43.31 | PTG123 | yah but its not YOURS |
| 08:43.35 | firestrm | but people get concerned if i dont.. |
| 08:43.42 | PTG123 | firestrm: i thought you fly like 20 hours a week max |
| 08:44.19 | firestrm | PTG123, around that.. but duty time is much higher.. |
| 08:44.32 | DyOS | so once i configure my x100p card will i still be able to use other analog device plugged into my pots line or is just the x100p going to be able to function off of it? |
| 08:44.33 | firestrm | more like 50 hours/week |
| 08:44.40 | PTG123 | firestrm: whats duty time |
| 08:45.21 | firestrm | PTG123, time i spend doing other things than flying.. flightplanning, weather, etc.. |
| 08:45.35 | PTG123 | firestrm: you have to do that yourself? |
| 08:46.08 | firestrm | PTG123, absolutly.. the pilot is ultimatly responsible.. |
| 08:46.32 | firestrm | PTG123, even if he cant spell :) |
| 08:47.39 | firestrm | PTG123, then there is recurent training.. (for which i have to allmost constantly study) |
| 08:47.55 | PTG123 | hmm |
| 08:47.58 | firestrm | PTG123, it never ends.. its a total ratrace.. |
| 08:48.01 | PTG123 | glad i am not full time pilot |
| 08:48.16 | firestrm | PTG123, best way to ruin you love of flying.. |
| 08:48.24 | Qwell | kill two birds with one stone - study while flying. |
| 08:48.46 | firestrm | Qwell, interisting terminioligy.. |
| 08:48.55 | Qwell | haha... |
| 08:49.06 | firestrm | Qwell, althogh strangely accurate.. |
| 08:49.07 | Qwell | yeah...maybe I should have chosen a better one? |
| 08:49.19 | Qwell | let me guess, two seater? |
| 08:50.02 | PTG123 | hehe |
| 08:50.07 | PTG123 | its a commerical airliner :) |
| 08:50.12 | Qwell | oh, heh |
| 08:50.13 | PTG123 | i think it seats 4 pilots basically |
| 08:50.13 | PTG123 | heh |
| 08:50.17 | firestrm | Qwell, more like 150 seats.. |
| 08:50.24 | SexyKen | Preston - 540 on a rw dyno. |
| 08:50.30 | SexyKen | *530 |
| 08:50.43 | PTG123 | SexyKen: well i'd beat you through a salom atleast :) |
| 08:50.48 | PTG123 | or around the track even |
| 08:50.49 | PTG123 | heh |
| 08:51.03 | firestrm | Qwell, a320.. you know.. the one with the disintegrating vertical stav |
| 08:51.09 | firestrm | er stab.. |
| 08:51.12 | SexyKen | mmm, Maybe..the whole car is rebuilt. |
| 08:51.14 | Qwell | no clue |
| 08:51.23 | SexyKen | We have a mountain road over here called Highway 92 |
| 08:51.35 | Qwell | I know nothing about aircraft...or watercraft...or..etc |
| 08:51.43 | PTG123 | SexyKen: this thing never breaks free of the ground, unless i stomp the gas.. its insane.. didn't care for the looks that much, but once i drove it i had to buy it |
| 08:52.06 | firestrm | Qwell, a320 is the type that disintegrated over NY on 2001 just after WTC |
| 08:52.18 | SexyKen | Speed Limit (which means not a whole lot) is about 45, with 15 degree to 120 degree turns, and I took the road without dropping elow 75mph |
| 08:52.19 | Qwell | disintegrated? |
| 08:52.29 | firestrm | Qwell, caused by the tail section coming apart.. |
| 08:52.30 | SexyKen | 1 lane each way and I raced a porshe |
| 08:52.34 | Qwell | ouch |
| 08:52.49 | firestrm | makes me feel warm a fuzzy about coming to work.. |
| 08:52.54 | firestrm | not.. |
| 08:52.54 | SexyKen | About 15 miles total from one side to the other. |
| 08:53.00 | SexyKen | Made it in 3 minutes :-) |
| 08:53.19 | Qwell | 15 miles in 3 minutes? Thats like 300mph |
| 08:53.45 | firestrm | fastest ive been on land is 212,, in a masarati.. |
| 08:53.45 | PTG123 | maybe he was flying with firestrm |
| 08:53.54 | SexyKen | lol |
| 08:53.57 | Qwell | PTG123: strapped to the bottom as landing gear? |
| 08:53.59 | PTG123 | been around 175 in my car :) |
| 08:54.01 | PTG123 | that ws scary |
| 08:54.10 | PTG123 | cars seem to stand still |
| 08:54.10 | SexyKen | I'l give you that PTG |
| 08:54.14 | Qwell | I've only done ~140 ;/ |
| 08:54.15 | firestrm | PTG123m i agree.. it was unnerving.. |
| 08:54.37 | SexyKen | I never went over 160...probably could have but never really gave myself the oppurtunity. |
| 08:54.46 | PTG123 | firestrm: did 160mph in my cobra converttible with top down.. that was insane too.. felt like i was being sucked out |
| 08:54.57 | Qwell | everyone else in the car was freaking out on the way to vegas |
| 08:55.05 | SexyKen | With a Chevelle with 4.11 gears, 160 was a miracle even ;-) |
| 08:55.10 | firestrm | PTG123, you were , it was probbly only the seat belt that kept you in.. |
| 08:55.21 | PTG123 | the trip to vegas is the best place to unwind your car |
| 08:55.27 | Qwell | yeah, no kidding |
| 08:55.27 | SexyKen | I can't afford a nice car :-( |
| 08:55.27 | Qwell | heh |
| 08:55.28 | PTG123 | firestrm: it was great though |
| 08:56.00 | firestrm | PTG123, think about the aerodynamic loading on the car.. huge low pressure area.. hmmm just behind the windscreen.. |
| 08:56.41 | PTG123 | firestrm: yah and mustangs aren't exactly very aerodynamic |
| 08:57.05 | PTG123 | which is the scary thing about my corvette you can't even hear the wind at 100Mph, its so aerodynamic rain doesn't even hit the windshield when going abovbe 60 |
| 08:57.17 | PTG123 | just flys right over the roof |
| 08:57.44 | Qwell | I need to get me 2 vettes |
| 08:57.48 | Qwell | older, and new |
| 08:57.56 | PTG123 | yah but the old ones are slow |
| 08:58.03 | firestrm | PTG123, i'll race ya :).. corvette, vs airbus.. |
| 08:58.12 | PTG123 | firestrm: i bet i beat you 0-100 |
| 08:58.19 | PTG123 | you'd win in the end though |
| 08:58.20 | firestrm | i wonder who would win over 1 mile? |
| 08:58.28 | PTG123 | hmm that would be a tight race |
| 08:58.36 | PTG123 | i saw a f16 vs a viper over 1 mile |
| 08:58.37 | PTG123 | it was close |
| 08:58.38 | firestrm | well.. you would have the advantage at first.. |
| 08:58.39 | coppice | I like living in a town where cars are not allowed |
| 08:58.40 | Qwell | a mile...a car could do in 60 seconds |
| 08:59.07 | Qwell | coppice: not allowed? |
| 08:59.17 | firestrm | takeoff roll takes about 20 sec.. |
| 08:59.18 | PTG123 | coppice: japan? |
| 08:59.19 | coppice | a daf could outrun a ferrari over the first 10 metres :-) |
| 08:59.31 | coppice | Qwell: yep. not allowed |
| 08:59.44 | firestrm | but truck are.. :) |
| 08:59.56 | Qwell | coppice: where at? |
| 09:00.06 | coppice | delivery trucks, buses and golf carts. no cars |
| 09:00.34 | firestrm | must be arizona |
| 09:00.34 | Qwell | ahh, hk |
| 09:01.23 | firestrm | crap its 1:00am.. i have to work in the morning.. |
| 09:01.28 | firestrm | gnite.. |
| 09:01.38 | SexyKen | Preston -- is the stuff gonna be online tomorrow? |
| 09:01.56 | PTG123 | SexyKen: shoul dbe |
| 09:02.03 | SexyKen | 100%? |
| 09:02.06 | PTG123 | SexyKen: did you talk to your friend? |
| 09:02.18 | SexyKen | Preston, left him 3 vm's :-) |
| 09:02.46 | PTG123 | damn our pilot left |
| 09:02.48 | SexyKen | If he doesn't respond I'll be able to fund you say Monday or Tuesday through Bank Deposit? Hopefully. |
| 09:02.49 | PTG123 | now who is gonna fly us home? |
| 09:02.57 | SexyKen | I'll give it a try ;-) |
| 09:03.07 | SexyKen | Is that okay Preston? |
| 09:04.15 | PTG123 | sure thats fine |
| 09:04.23 | PTG123 | and yah system should be mostly operastional tommorow |
| 09:04.27 | PTG123 | dedicating the day to finishing it |
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| 09:04.59 | SexyKen | Brilliant. Dont forget you're getting paid when it's done ;-) |
| 09:05.10 | SexyKen | If that's of ANY incentive heeh |
| 09:05.28 | SexyKen | Any work for Monica or no |
| 09:05.39 | PTG123 | heh not really :) |
| 09:05.45 | PTG123 | actually possibly, pm me |
| 09:05.47 | PTG123 | aim me |
| 09:05.49 | SexyKen | Okay. |
| 09:20.10 | bsdfreak | heh |
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| 10:02.11 | Qwell | off to bed |
| 10:02.29 | Supaplex | qool idea |
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| 10:38.40 | askChil | where can I download meetme app |
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| 11:07.16 | sezuan | How does asterisk know that incoming calls from the register(register => wgUSERNAME:SIPPASSWORD@len1.host.wengo.fr/PHONENUMBER) belong to the [wengo-in] and not to the [wengo-out] part? |
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| 11:09.50 | jhiver | guyz, I have a question *completely* off topic |
| 11:09.53 | super | are toll-free numbers on the pstn? |
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| 11:10.53 | jhiver | what's the simplest way to set up mail + imap on an FC2 server? been trying to do it but I'm overwhelmed... sorry for the OT but if you know of a good resource let me know! |
| 11:12.16 | BarnyRitchley | can anyone help with Cisco Call Manager and * by SIP? The * server is not open on port 5060 for inbound calls. I have portscanned it and 5060 is closed! All help greatly appreciated |
| 11:12.38 | Moonwick | SIP is UDP, not TCP, so a portscan won't show you anything. |
| 11:12.49 | coppice | SIP is UDP or TCP |
| 11:12.54 | Moonwick | ah, well |
| 11:13.09 | BarnyRitchley | but the callmanager trace logs show no response from * |
| 11:13.25 | BarnyRitchley | i have set it up as shown in all docs, and cant figure this out... |
| 11:13.31 | Moonwick | all I see asterisk listening on here is UDP :) |
| 11:13.57 | BarnyRitchley | how u finding that? |
| 11:14.06 | Moonwick | netstat -an | grep 5060 |
| 11:14.12 | Moonwick | on whichever machines is running asterisk. |
| 11:14.16 | Moonwick | er, machine |
| 11:14.52 | BarnyRitchley | when i do that (through ssh) nothing comes up |
| 11:15.43 | BarnyRitchley | my fault.. typo!!! |
| 11:21.13 | BarnyRitchley | callmanager cant connect to *, its error is: Cisco CallManagerCCSIP_ERR_DEBUG:Create Connection to 192.168.12.30:5060 failed |
| 11:21.22 | BarnyRitchley | any ideas? |
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| 11:25.50 | Moonwick | it might be trying to connect over TCP, which * doesn't support |
| 11:27.02 | BarnyRitchley | the * SIP debug reads... localhost*CLI> |
| 11:27.02 | BarnyRitchley | <-- SIP read from 192.168.12.55:5060: |
| 11:27.02 | BarnyRitchley | SIP/2.0 400 Bad Request - 'Malformed/Missing URL' |
| 11:27.02 | BarnyRitchley | Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.12.30:5060;branch=z9hG4bK307cd983 |
| 11:27.02 | BarnyRitchley | From: "asterisk" <sip:asterisk@192.168.12.30>;tag=as22484560 |
| 11:27.03 | BarnyRitchley | To: <sip:192.168.12.55> |
| 11:27.05 | BarnyRitchley | Call-ID: 212c3ad1615a01dd0c24722d3fa11bbc@192.168.12.30 |
| 11:27.06 | BarnyRitchley | CSeq: 102 OPTIONS |
| 11:27.08 | BarnyRitchley | Content-Length: 0 |
| 11:27.14 | BarnyRitchley | where 192.168.12.55 ios the CCM |
| 11:27.50 | BarnyRitchley | i dont know what it means by the 400 error |
| 11:28.38 | *** join/#asterisk monil (monil@staff.sentient.net.uk) |
| 11:28.40 | monil | hi |
| 11:28.58 | monil | i have a sipgate account running with asterisk |
| 11:29.12 | monil | outgoing works fine, done from a budge tone and goes through asterisk |
| 11:29.41 | monil | but, as of two days ago, whenever an inbound call comes in, the budge tone rings but when the handset is picked up, you get an error tone |
| 11:30.04 | monil | can anyone hel? |
| 11:30.06 | monil | +p |
| 11:30.16 | BarnyRitchley | is it a NAT setup? |
| 11:30.20 | monil | yes |
| 11:30.24 | monil | but its worked in the past :E |
| 11:30.38 | monil | the asterisk and phone are behind the nat |
| 11:30.40 | BarnyRitchley | do you have your router setup for PNP |
| 11:30.53 | monil | oh that's a point |
| 11:31.01 | BarnyRitchley | i try to avoid PNP |
| 11:31.02 | monil | i think a family member changed some router settings :/ |
| 11:31.14 | *** join/#asterisk samwong (~samwong@cm61-18-216-102.hkcable.com.hk) |
| 11:31.19 | BarnyRitchley | it is probably some sort of PAT issue |
| 11:34.51 | Moonwick | another problem I've had with NAT is that some routers don't keep translation entries for UDP transmissions around for very long |
| 11:35.34 | Moonwick | although, now that I think about it, the phone wouldn't be ringing if that were your problem |
| 11:35.53 | monil | hm |
| 11:35.57 | BarnyRitchley | ;) i find it best to telnet in to the router and set up port forwaring manually |
| 11:36.00 | monil | no its not the router setting, its the same as it used to be |
| 11:36.04 | *** part/#asterisk sysdef (~sysdef@sysdef.admin.debiancenter) |
| 11:36.32 | monil | i can paste the asterisk sip debug to a pastebin if that would help? |
| 11:36.35 | BarnyRitchley | is your phone congfigured to use the router as the default gateway |
| 11:36.56 | monil | BarnyRitchley: yes, but even so the phone doesnt need to talk to anything apart frmo asterisk, right? |
| 11:36.59 | monil | frmo* |
| 11:37.00 | monil | from**** |
| 11:37.14 | monil | as far as i'm aware it connects to asterisk and asterisk connects to sipgate? |
| 11:37.53 | BarnyRitchley | sorry, you are right |
| 11:38.25 | monil | ok |
| 11:38.34 | monil | shall i paste my exten/sip.conf and the asterisk debug output someplace? |
| 11:38.43 | monil | maybe i'm doing something wrong |
| 11:39.59 | Moonwick | sure |
| 11:42.34 | askChil | some body have install meetme2? |
| 12:00.25 | *** join/#asterisk NormAst (HydraIRC@toronto-HSE-ppp3972479.sympatico.ca) |
| 12:06.41 | *** join/#asterisk r0d3nt|m (anonymous@soveliss.luniac.com) |
| 12:10.42 | *** join/#asterisk bhima (~gf2e@UNIX6.andrew.cmu.edu) |
| 12:11.35 | bhima | I'm looking for a US-based incoming and outgoing service provider. Digium linked to a few including nufone, but I read some pretty atrocious reviews... |
| 12:11.57 | bhima | Any suggestions as to where to look? |
| 12:14.59 | dwmw2_gone | Mar 20 12:12:07 WARNING[28581]: chan_modem.c:828 modem_request: Requested device 'g1' does not exist |
| 12:14.59 | dwmw2_gone | hm. |
| 12:16.40 | dwmw2_gone | I don't have chan_modem_i4l.so loaded despite adding |
| 12:16.50 | dwmw2_gone | load => chan_modem_i4l.so in modules.conf |
| 12:22.15 | *** join/#asterisk vpaskov (~vpaskov@www.delfibg.com) |
| 12:22.38 | vpaskov | Hi, tell me how I make transfer call? |
| 12:22.57 | *** join/#asterisk sddddd (Dom@81-86-236-126.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 12:23.13 | sddddd | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:23.19 | sddddd | Anyone any idea why i get that |
| 12:23.43 | sddddd | I have specifed in sip.conf to use another context but its keeps refering to default |
| 12:24.01 | *** join/#asterisk Elshar (~Elshar@ip205-68.oregonfast.net) |
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| 12:27.03 | jontow | sddddd; it dials out on default..? incoming is in your specified context |
| 12:27.11 | jontow | use the @context piece in the Dial() application |
| 12:30.17 | sddddd | jontow, on the incoming sip the context a is specified, but in extensions it will only read from default not from a |
| 12:33.52 | *** join/#asterisk caesar2 (~igerl@ppp-82-135-4-143.mnet-online.de) |
| 12:40.38 | sddddd | Doesnt the new version of Asterisk support the colours? |
| 12:40.44 | sddddd | or do the usual colours? |
| 12:42.28 | *** join/#asterisk A-Tuin (~a-tuin@steves.ip.v4.me.uk) |
| 12:46.50 | Mavvie | I really think that colours are the thing you need in a PABX. |
| 12:47.22 | Mavvie | ETOOMUCHVIM |
| 12:48.33 | sddddd | So is that, a yes they have taken the colours out in the new version ? :P |
| 12:48.36 | sddddd | or just disabled? |
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| 12:58.47 | *** join/#asterisk Blackvel (~blackvel@dsl-213-023-034-227.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:58.50 | Blackvel | hi |
| 12:59.20 | Blackvel | what is a asterisk manager API DTMF response? a single number or the complete number? and on what circumstances should I expect DTMF responses? |
| 13:01.06 | Blackvel | what are the ways to inter-connect callers over AGI? transfer command or something different? is there a way to dial a special extension and call join some time laters? |
| 13:01.12 | *** join/#asterisk PoWeRKiLL (~PoWeRKiLL@l02m-4-165.d4.club-internet.fr) |
| 13:03.45 | *** join/#asterisk fugitivo (~ajf@201.255.99.59) |
| 13:03.48 | fugitivo | hello |
| 13:03.56 | *** join/#asterisk LarsAC (~LarsAC@pD9500B49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:04.11 | LarsAC | hi |
| 13:04.20 | LarsAC | I have problems to use german soundfile |
| 13:04.21 | LarsAC | s |
| 13:04.36 | LarsAC | some are played in german, some in english and some seem not to be played at all |
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| 13:12.41 | dwmw2_gone | hm. |
| 13:12.50 | dwmw2_gone | recorded voicemail messages are mostly silent with some clicks |
| 13:13.01 | dwmw2_gone | from chan_modem_i4l. |
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| 13:13.31 | dwmw2_gone | it does manage to get audio data from the channel correctly when it's playing it on the speakers, but it doesn't record voicemail correctly |
| 13:13.43 | fugitivo | anyone using kphone + asterisk? |
| 13:13.56 | dwmw2_gone | fugitivo: just about, yes. |
| 13:15.30 | fugitivo | dwmw2_gone: any problems with registration? |
| 13:15.37 | dwmw2_gone | no |
| 13:15.57 | fugitivo | good, then i'm doing something wrong :) |
| 13:17.41 | dwmw2_gone | did you edit sip.conf and add an entry for the username/password which kphone is using? |
| 13:21.15 | bhima | I would like an incoming PSTN number in the US, and when it's dialled, it tries one SIP clent, then a second, then uses an outgoing ISDN line in my office which'll call a local German number when the others aren't busy. |
| 13:22.04 | bhima | WOuld an incoming PSTN to SIP account in the US be good for that, or should I find somebody that does IAX, or is that irrelevent? |
| 13:22.12 | vpaskov | tell me how I can make call transfer pls... |
| 13:22.46 | fugitivo | dwmw2_gone: yes, but i don't reach the password part with kphone |
| 13:22.46 | NormAst | bhima: I can give you a DID number in Canada for $19.95 a month with 1500 minutes in and out. |
| 13:22.51 | dwmw2_gone | bhima: I think you don't need IAX for that. I'm about to try setting it up myself |
| 13:23.03 | Jer13261 | NormAst you serve anyplace else? |
| 13:23.16 | dwmw2_gone | fugitivo: File... Identity in kphone |
| 13:23.21 | NormAst | Just Barrie, hamilton. |
| 13:23.24 | Blackvel | dwmw2_gone: forget chan_modem and i4l! |
| 13:23.47 | fugitivo | dwmw2_gone: I have full name, user part of sip, host part of sip url, proxy, authentication username, q-value |
| 13:23.48 | dwmw2_gone | fugitivo: it'll ask you for the password when you click 'register' |
| 13:23.51 | bhima | normast: Unfortunately, I need a USA number. |
| 13:23.57 | NormAst | K |
| 13:24.05 | fugitivo | dwmw2_gone: that's what i mean, it doesn't ask for a password |
| 13:24.23 | dwmw2_gone | hm. What _does_ it do? And what does the asterisk console say? |
| 13:24.34 | fugitivo | dwmw2_gone: it just says "Registration Failed: Forbidden" |
| 13:24.43 | dwmw2_gone | what does Asterisk say? |
| 13:24.59 | dwmw2_gone | Blackvel: and use CAPI instead? |
| 13:25.01 | fugitivo | Registration from '<sip:user@ip>' failed for 'ip' |
| 13:25.30 | Blackvel | dwmw2_gone: right |
| 13:25.32 | dwmw2_gone | hm |
| 13:25.33 | dwmw2_gone | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.33 | dwmw2_gone | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.48 | dwmw2_gone | Blackvel: is there a CAPI driver for the internal USB port of a Siemens gigaset? |
| 13:26.03 | Blackvel | uhm |
| 13:26.04 | fugitivo | dwmw2_gone: maybe i did something wrong in sip.conf, i'll check it |
| 13:26.18 | Blackvel | dunno |
| 13:26.33 | Blackvel | AVM fritz isdn cards have CAPI 2.0 support |
| 13:26.40 | dwmw2_gone | I doubt it. If I use CAPI I'll have to wire up a second HFC card backwards for talking to the DECT base station and actually route all voice through |
| 13:27.01 | bhima | I'd like to have Asterisk feed the caller ID info from the call into my own app - what is the best way to do that? |
| 13:27.07 | Blackvel | jepp, HFC NT that works |
| 13:27.27 | bhima | (The ISDN outgoing call will go to a PDA, and I want to pass the caller ID info to that) |
| 13:27.32 | Blackvel | bhima: AGI if your application does this |
| 13:27.34 | dwmw2_gone | all I want this for at the moment is routing VoIP calls between my laptop when it's on the road, and the internal DECT handset |
| 13:27.52 | Blackvel | bhima: hmm just PDA SIP? setCallerId |
| 13:28.04 | Blackvel | that is the easiest |
| 13:28.07 | dwmw2_gone | Blackvel: it works, but only when the computer is running. I'd need some kind of automatic passthrough switch for when the computer dies |
| 13:28.19 | NormAst | Any one here using * on BRI ? |
| 13:28.25 | Jer13261 | anyone know a PDA client IAX/SIP? |
| 13:28.26 | Blackvel | me |
| 13:28.27 | bhima | blackvel: SIP if it's got 802.11, PSTN if it's out of range. |
| 13:28.47 | Blackvel | Jer13261: sjphone SIP? |
| 13:28.48 | NormAst | blackvel: Can you do Call Transfer with BRI ??? And what cards do you use? |
| 13:28.57 | Blackvel | never tried that |
| 13:28.59 | bhima | blackvel: so if I'm out of 802.11, I'd use GRPS to pass the phone number to the PDA while also dialling its number. |
| 13:29.09 | Blackvel | zaphfc card |
| 13:29.16 | Blackvel | actually * is not connected to telco |
| 13:29.30 | Blackvel | i have no free pci slot in my epia v system |
| 13:29.38 | Blackvel | I have * connected to my isdn/analog pbx |
| 13:29.50 | Jer13261 | thats for pocketpc I need one for palmOS |
| 13:29.53 | Blackvel | so I have two technologies living side by side |
| 13:30.00 | Blackvel | Jer13261: oh sorry, didn't know that |
| 13:30.15 | Blackvel | what palm is not PDA |
| 13:30.18 | Blackvel | you confused me :P |
| 13:30.21 | Blackvel | but |
| 13:30.35 | NormAst | blackvel: How much are the zaphfc cards? |
| 13:30.39 | Blackvel | cheap |
| 13:30.44 | Blackvel | 30EUR maybe |
| 13:31.25 | Blackvel | I have my telephone connected to the pbx twice |
| 13:31.39 | NormAst | Have a url? |
| 13:31.40 | Blackvel | to the telco, and thru a crosslink cable from pbx to * |
| 13:31.43 | Blackvel | not really |
| 13:31.57 | Blackvel | I can then do crossdailing |
| 13:32.03 | Blackvel | and if my pc screws up |
| 13:32.12 | Blackvel | I still have normal pbx support |
| 13:32.13 | Blackvel | :) |
| 13:32.31 | *** join/#asterisk Hermes42 (~steve@sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de) |
| 13:32.37 | Blackvel | got mine from a german VOIP forum and used to buy it from someone over internet |
| 13:32.52 | NormAst | K |
| 13:33.05 | Blackvel | but big electronic dealers should have some |
| 13:33.13 | Blackvel | some time ago I heard about conrad |
| 13:33.20 | Blackvel | check hermes cards |
| 13:33.21 | fugitivo | dwmw2_gone: now it asks for the password, but still can't register |
| 13:33.29 | Blackvel | with the cologn chip set |
| 13:33.39 | Blackvel | maybe they have some dealers in your city |
| 13:35.13 | NormAst | BlackVel: Can you get the card to do 3 way? |
| 13:35.51 | Blackvel | uhm 3-way |
| 13:35.55 | Blackvel | never had to do it |
| 13:35.58 | Blackvel | my pbx handles all that |
| 13:36.09 | bhima | Is there much asterisk cracking activity going on? If I have an un-secured SIP dialout, are people likely to try and use it? |
| 13:36.20 | Blackvel | I believe you can use # and normal asterisk features like call parking |
| 13:36.24 | Blackvel | transfers |
| 13:36.25 | bhima | (or, say, one that's not fully secured if I mis-understood something...) |
| 13:36.32 | Blackvel | but dunno about 3-way |
| 13:36.54 | Blackvel | if asterisk supports that probably yes, but I doubt there are some special features in the drivers like with digium analog ZAP equipment |
| 13:36.58 | Blackvel | but I am not really sure |
| 13:37.06 | NormAst | Blackvel: Want to use the Card to Transfer the call back out to the tell co. |
| 13:37.08 | NormAst | Telco |
| 13:37.14 | sddddd | Anyone know why if i have nat=yes it still putting forward my lan IP? |
| 13:37.45 | Blackvel | sddddd: what asterisk version do you use? have you tried 1.0.6 yet? |
| 13:37.57 | sddddd | Ive just put 1.0.7 on |
| 13:38.07 | Blackvel | you are behind nat? |
| 13:38.09 | Blackvel | do you use externip? |
| 13:38.17 | sddddd | I am behind nat |
| 13:38.25 | sddddd | Name/username Host Dyn Nat ACL Mask Port Status |
| 13:38.25 | sddddd | dom/dom 81.86.236.126 D N 255.255.255.255 5060 Unmonitored |
| 13:38.42 | sddddd | The N means its on i take it? |
| 13:39.00 | Blackvel | probably N = No |
| 13:39.31 | Blackvel | ok i am not sure |
| 13:40.05 | dwmw2_gone | Blackvel: i4l doesn't seem to be the problem here. |
| 13:40.14 | dwmw2_gone | the echo test works fine -- it can receive and send audio OK |
| 13:40.30 | dwmw2_gone | it's just voicemail which is screwed |
| 13:40.37 | Blackvel | well |
| 13:40.46 | Blackvel | i have tested i4l before |
| 13:40.47 | *** join/#asterisk rcsu (~su@p213.54.85.214.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 13:40.54 | Blackvel | there are some DTMF tones between the conversation |
| 13:40.56 | Blackvel | not all the time |
| 13:41.01 | Blackvel | but from minute to minutes |
| 13:41.07 | Blackvel | so forget about it |
| 13:41.23 | Blackvel | you will just drive your friends mad |
| 13:41.34 | dwmw2_gone | DTMF in which direction? |
| 13:41.54 | dwmw2_gone | outgoing? |
| 13:41.56 | Blackvel | from you to called party |
| 13:42.05 | slePP | N= No |
| 13:42.05 | dwmw2_gone | that's odd. What would cause that? |
| 13:42.06 | slePP | Y = Yes |
| 13:42.15 | Blackvel | i4l driver implementation |
| 13:42.19 | Darwin35 | ===> Building for newt-0.51.0_2 |
| 13:42.19 | Darwin35 | cc -g -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -o test test.o libnewt.a -lslang -lm -lpopt -lncurses -static |
| 13:42.19 | Darwin35 | /usr/local/lib/libslang.a(sldisply.o)(.text+0x277c): In function `SLtt_tgetstr': |
| 13:42.19 | Darwin35 | : undefined reference to `tgetstr' |
| 13:42.19 | Darwin35 | /usr/local/lib/libslang.a(sldisply.o)(.text+0x27cf): In function `SLtt_tgetnum': |
| 13:42.20 | Darwin35 | : undefined reference to `tgetnum' |
| 13:42.22 | Darwin35 | /usr/local/lib/libslang.a(sldisply.o)(.text+0x27f3): In function `SLtt_tgetflag': |
| 13:42.24 | Darwin35 | : undefined reference to `tgetflag' |
| 13:42.26 | Darwin35 | /usr/local/lib/libslang.a(sldisply.o)(.text+0x29f5): In function `SLtt_initialize': |
| 13:42.27 | Blackvel | it is not meant to be VOIP compatible |
| 13:42.28 | Darwin35 | : undefined reference to `tgetent' |
| 13:42.30 | Darwin35 | grrrr |
| 13:42.32 | Darwin35 | sorry |
| 13:42.34 | Darwin35 | wrong window |
| 13:42.37 | Blackvel | hehe |
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| 13:42.45 | dwmw2_gone | i4l driver itself? Not us failing to escape something it interprets as a request to generate DTMF? |
| 13:42.49 | Darwin35 | was for pastebin and it close on me |
| 13:43.00 | Blackvel | Darwin35: do you have your BV problems fixed? |
| 13:43.06 | Darwin35 | yes |
| 13:43.10 | Darwin35 | BV works fine |
| 13:43.13 | Blackvel | what was the trick? |
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| 13:43.28 | Darwin35 | you have to have insecure=very |
| 13:43.33 | slePP | oh no, it's druken! |
| 13:43.35 | Blackvel | on 1.0.6? |
| 13:43.38 | Darwin35 | yes |
| 13:43.39 | Druken | wtf? |
| 13:43.51 | Druken | it's 8am and your awake? |
| 13:43.54 | Druken | you shit the bed? |
| 13:43.58 | slePP | 6:43am, and yes i am, and yes i did |
| 13:44.05 | slePP | so i decided tyo let vicky sleep in it |
| 13:44.09 | slePP | and i'd move to my office |
| 13:44.18 | Druken | oh.. YOUR office... |
| 13:44.25 | Druken | you had me speechless for a second |
| 13:44.49 | slePP | uhm |
| 13:44.50 | slePP | ok |
| 13:44.51 | slePP | nutbag |
| 13:44.53 | Blackvel | ehm |
| 13:44.56 | Druken | thank you :) |
| 13:44.57 | Blackvel | sunday morning 7am? |
| 13:45.04 | Jer13261 | Darwin: can i pm you? |
| 13:45.07 | Blackvel | wow, you have a good contract? :) |
| 13:45.09 | fugitivo | mmm |
| 13:45.12 | slePP | sunday morning, 6:44am.. mmmmmmm |
| 13:45.26 | Druken | slePP: still awake, or up for the day ? |
| 13:45.27 | tzanger | heh |
| 13:45.30 | tzanger | 8:45 here |
| 13:45.30 | slePP | still awake |
| 13:45.39 | NormAst | yup.. 8:45 |
| 13:45.39 | Druken | hehe and your calling me a nutbag |
| 13:45.41 | Blackvel | dwmw2_gone: that i4l linux host driver screws something up |
| 13:45.51 | MikeJ[Jayden] | tzanger... you are still there or just woke up? |
| 13:46.00 | dwmw2_gone | Blackvel: that can be fixed. |
| 13:46.02 | Blackvel | and even don't think about finding patches for the c code |
| 13:46.11 | Blackvel | I tried once and had still no success |
| 13:46.13 | Druken | did you say you were doing an install this weekend? |
| 13:46.16 | tzanger | MikeJ[Jayden]: was up for a while |
| 13:46.16 | slePP | then i slept on the couch with a cat until 5 |
| 13:46.18 | tzanger | but no I went to bed |
| 13:46.18 | fugitivo | dwmw2_gone: i removed the secret option from sip.conf and it worked |
| 13:46.23 | NormAst | tzanger: I've been looking into this ISDN BRI stuff... looks good.. |
| 13:46.25 | slePP | Druken: starting on it |
| 13:46.25 | dwmw2_gone | fugitivo: ah, ok. |
| 13:46.28 | Jer13261 | Darwin35: darwin? |
| 13:46.28 | tzanger | NormAst: do tell |
| 13:46.32 | Blackvel | throwing away i4l and getting CAPI and chan_capi to work (or bristuff zaphfc) is the right way |
| 13:46.34 | tzanger | slePP: heh |
| 13:46.35 | MikeJ[Jayden] | k, good |
| 13:46.36 | fugitivo | dwmw2_gone: but, i want to use passwords :) |
| 13:46.53 | slePP | tzanger: let's share it in the corner and laugh at newbies? |
| 13:46.59 | dwmw2_gone | Blackvel: Well, perhaps I could create a chan_gigaset using libusb |
| 13:47.00 | slePP | like.. pretend we never were |
| 13:47.00 | Darwin35 | yes |
| 13:47.05 | tzanger | slePP: ooh that's even better |
| 13:47.12 | Darwin35 | some one yell for me |
| 13:47.25 | tzanger | ~yell |
| 13:47.26 | jbot | AAAAAAAAAAAARG! |
| 13:47.32 | dwmw2_gone | Blackvel: but that aside, it still isn't likely to affect the voicemail problem |
| 13:47.41 | slePP | we're _Sleeping_! |
| 13:47.49 | slePP | Druken: PVR-350 comes in today :> |
| 13:47.50 | slePP | oh shit |
| 13:47.54 | slePP | it's sunday. k. it comes in monday |
| 13:47.55 | tzanger | slePP: that's awesome |
| 13:47.56 | tzanger | I have one |
| 13:47.57 | dwmw2_gone | probably isn't going to fix the fact that kphone seems to be playing white noise at me instead of real sounds. |
| 13:47.57 | Druken | hahahaha |
| 13:48.00 | dwmw2_gone | at least on ppc |
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| 13:48.17 | slePP | tzanger: i was getting the 250, but it was backordered, so i ordered the 350 instead |
| 13:48.19 | dwmw2_gone | so it's a lower priority than both of those :) |
| 13:48.30 | slePP | stick it in with the zoltrix genie tv.. oh yes. |
| 13:48.33 | NormAst | tzanger: Well, found several different companys that make cards with * support. So if they support the DMS100 we can |
| 13:48.46 | tzanger | slePP: well I use the 350's output but not the input very much :-) |
| 13:48.52 | Druken | hahahaha zoltrix |
| 13:48.55 | Druken | i had a few of those |
| 13:48.56 | Hermes42 | Hi, anyone out there using asterisk with isdn4linux? |
| 13:48.57 | tzanger | NormAst: got some names? |
| 13:48.58 | NormAst | get 2 channels of BRI for like 80 bucks.. in most places in canada.. Small * POP's |
| 13:49.09 | tzanger | NormAst: amen I know exactly what you're saying |
| 13:49.12 | NormAst | http://isdn.jolly.de/cards.html |
| 13:49.17 | Blackvel | dwmw2_gone: you could :) |
| 13:49.19 | NormAst | It's a list of BRI Cards. |
| 13:49.38 | slePP | tzanger: really? interesting :> |
| 13:49.41 | slePP | most people do it the other way |
| 13:50.08 | tzanger | slePP: yeah I know but most of my content is downloaded... I watch some over-the-air stuff but really most of it is shit |
| 13:50.16 | tzanger | NormAst: awesome. Now to find them in Canada |
| 13:50.27 | NormAst | I will order them. |
| 13:50.38 | NormAst | :) Fed-ex |
| 13:50.44 | tzanger | haha |
| 13:50.50 | Druken | i wonder if that NormAst is someone i know.. hehehe |
| 13:50.54 | Druken | i bet it is :) |
| 13:50.54 | slePP | tzanger: yeh. i like the fact i can compress my entire nightly viewing into about 30 minutes with PVRs :> |
| 13:51.04 | NormAst | :) |
| 13:51.06 | tzanger | slePP: wow you don't watchmuch |
| 13:51.10 | tzanger | me either mind you |
| 13:51.14 | slePP | no, i just fast forward a lot too :> |
| 13:51.19 | tzanger | crazy |
| 13:51.22 | slePP | how it's made for fun |
| 13:51.28 | tzanger | I can't stand fastforwarding, drives me nuts |
| 13:51.31 | Druken | i like how it's made :) |
| 13:51.44 | Druken | is mythbusters on? i'm watching the buddy holly storey |
| 13:51.59 | tzanger | I like stuff on TLC, HIST, DISC, etc |
| 13:52.11 | tzanger | BBC too |
| 13:52.19 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 13:52.25 | tzanger | there's a "using broadvoice with asterisk HOWTO" on /. |
| 13:52.34 | *** join/#asterisk r0d3nt|m (~RatMan@wsip-24-234-241-84.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 13:52.57 | slePP | BBC is actually good |
| 13:53.05 | slePP | :> |
| 13:53.05 | *** join/#asterisk think12 (~think12@d36-160-111.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 13:53.07 | slePP | Red Dwarf |
| 13:53.12 | slePP | and 'My Parents are Aliens' |
| 13:53.43 | Druken | i really should cancle my paper subscription.... |
| 13:53.51 | tzanger | that /. article on replacing /etc iwth one big XML file was fucking hilarious |
| 13:53.56 | Druken | the wife isn't even taking them outta the plastic bag anymore... |
| 13:54.20 | tzanger | heh I got a +5 insightful on that one |
| 13:54.33 | tzanger | 50% insightful, 30% interesting and 20% interesting |
| 13:54.38 | tzanger | er 30% underrated |
| 13:54.45 | tzanger | Druken: haha |
| 13:55.06 | Druken | well, you know, the toronto sun... |
| 13:55.19 | Druken | i personally don't read newspapers, never had... |
| 13:55.34 | Druken | got the subscription for her... she "normally" reads it |
| 13:55.55 | Hermes42 | can anyone out here help me with my outbound configuration? |
| 13:56.05 | slePP | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.10 | slePP | how retarded are people, really.... |
| 13:56.24 | dwmw2_gone | Mar 20 13:56:10 WARNING[29759]: file.c:923 ast_writefile: No such format 'ogg' |
| 13:56.25 | dwmw2_gone | bah :) |
| 13:56.27 | Hermes42 | i can call inbound via isdn, but I can't figure out how to configure it outbound. |
| 13:56.49 | Druken | well, i'm sure there are people dumber than me... |
| 13:56.50 | *** join/#asterisk jeffik (~jeffik@node-423a160a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) |
| 13:57.12 | slePP | <slePP> Hay Guys! R U Usiing Myth VT!???? I AM. ITS KEWL! |
| 13:57.12 | slePP | <slePP> ILL HelP u instell it!!! |
| 13:57.13 | slePP | god i'm annoying |
| 13:57.35 | Hermes42 | btw: this IS the PBX Asterisk Channel here? |
| 13:57.38 | Druken | no argument :) |
| 13:57.38 | slePP | uhm |
| 13:57.46 | slePP | not at this time of week, hermes42 |
| 13:57.46 | Druken | but so am i :) |
| 13:57.46 | tzanger | yes it is |
| 13:57.47 | slePP | we're on vacation |
| 13:57.53 | ariel_ | morning everyone |
| 13:57.59 | Hermes42 | oh |
| 13:58.01 | slePP | Hermes42: you can get inbound on Zap channels? |
| 13:58.04 | slePP | but you can't outbound on them? |
| 13:58.20 | slePP | oh wait. isdn.. that's like Modem/NUMBER or something |
| 13:58.26 | Hermes42 | slePP: I can get inbound on i4l channel.s |
| 13:58.45 | Hermes42 | slePP: might be. I can't find any docs about i4l |
| 13:58.52 | Druken | why not have a setup like mine :) birng the calls in via ZAP send out IAX :) |
| 13:58.53 | slePP | when a call comes in.. what does it show the channel ID as? |
| 13:58.55 | Hermes42 | only about mISDN or CAPI |
| 13:59.09 | *** join/#asterisk Ridgeback (~Ridgeback@ppp55-193.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net) |
| 13:59.23 | Hermes42 | - Executing Wait("Modem[i4l]/ttyI0", "1") in new stack |
| 13:59.33 | Ridgeback | good morning |
| 13:59.33 | slePP | k... just for fun, try doing: |
| 13:59.38 | Druken | there's your channel :) |
| 13:59.41 | dwmw2_gone | exten => 111,1,Dial(Modem/g1/40:**11) |
| 13:59.45 | Hermes42 | slePP: thannks for the hint... ... reconfiguring |
| 13:59.50 | slePP | Dial(Modem[i4l]/ttyI0/1234567) |
| 13:59.54 | slePP | and variants thereof |
| 13:59.56 | think12 | quick generic question: I'm taking interest in setting up a little voip solution in my house (rather than pay the big boys $X/month). Anyways, as I understand it, I need a PCI FXO card, which will allow me to connect my phoneline into it. From my existing nic card, I'd connect a switch and then connect the appropriate voip phones and... Well, that's my understanding so far. Am I right/wrong? Some insight would be great :-) |
| 14:00.02 | dwmw2_gone | that makes an outgoing ISDN call using CLI '40' to the number '**11' |
| 14:00.04 | slePP | holy crap. quick question that's 5 lines long |
| 14:00.24 | think12 | It was quick when I started writing it, but it snowballed into something bigger |
| 14:00.40 | slePP | Hermes42: okay, i think dwmw2_gone gave more useful info |
| 14:00.40 | slePP | :> |
| 14:00.40 | tzanger | think12: yes you've got the basics understood |
| 14:00.44 | Druken | think12: pay the big boys what ? you still need a PHONELINE |
| 14:00.47 | dwmw2_gone | slePP: that's after I added 'driver=i4l' in modem.conf |
| 14:00.53 | Ridgeback | think12, thats about the basics, use an IAX termination providor for phone server |
| 14:00.53 | MikeJ[Jayden] | think12, good so far... read the wiki... |
| 14:00.56 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ~docs |
| 14:00.57 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 14:01.00 | slePP | think12: yeh. if you keep the FXO, you're still paying for a POTS line |
| 14:01.00 | think12 | Druken, oppose to paying for voip. |
| 14:01.05 | Ridgeback | think12, s/server/service |
| 14:01.20 | nix000 | can someone fill me in on how digium and zapatel came about ? |
| 14:01.27 | slePP | think12: you can drop the FXO and go pure voip to a carrier like me, and then yer fine.. you pay us instead of the big boys |
| 14:01.30 | slePP | but with FXO, you still pay them |
| 14:01.42 | MikeJ[Jayden] | nix, there is a great history on asteriskdocs. |
| 14:01.46 | slePP | but you may be able to cancel things liek voicemail (not voicemail when busy), and you can use other ways to do call forwarding, etc. |
| 14:01.52 | Ridgeback | think12, you can probably drop the fxo line, unless you need it for adsl or emergency backup i.e. 911 |
| 14:01.54 | Druken | and the quality sucks ass with FXO :) |
| 14:02.13 | tzanger | Druken: eh? |
| 14:02.15 | tzanger | I don't think so |
| 14:02.23 | Hermes42 | argl. was away and have no scrollbackbuffer.. dwmw2: could you please reecho? |
| 14:02.24 | Druken | in my opinion it does :) |
| 14:02.35 | ariel_ | I have a strange problem. I have asterisk up and running file. But I can't connect to it via asterisk -vvvvr says unable to connect |
| 14:02.35 | tzanger | Druken: you've got it configured poorly |
| 14:02.48 | tzanger | reecho? this isn't something we in #asterisk like to do |
| 14:02.51 | tzanger | echo is bad, mmkay? |
| 14:02.53 | think12 | tzanger, Ridgeback MikeJ[Jayden], slePP: Excellent, thanks for the info/confirmation. |
| 14:02.54 | MikeJ[Jayden] | fxo takes some poking to get gain vs echo right |
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| 14:03.33 | Druken | tzanger: nah... just i hate phonelines, and if i had the money i'd go fully digital and get it werkin all sweetness like |
| 14:03.34 | MikeJ[Jayden] | but with single fxo, you have plenty of cpu to handle it |
| 14:03.34 | slePP | tzanger: echo is fun |
| 14:03.55 | slePP | with quad span T1, you don't have plenty of CPU to handle echo :< |
| 14:03.56 | tzanger | Druken: yeah well that's why I'm investigating BRI in Canada for the little companies I want to work with |
| 14:04.10 | slePP | tzanger: we are too |
| 14:04.15 | slePP | let me know what you find and i'll let you know what i find? :> |
| 14:04.18 | MikeJ[Jayden] | slepp, perhapse, but tht isn't what the question was... |
| 14:04.19 | NormAst | Me too.. |
| 14:04.24 | slePP | k, let's all share ;> |
| 14:04.35 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ok |
| 14:04.35 | Druken | BRI: bell canada 115 for a pair +30 did's minimum (if you want did's) |
| 14:04.36 | tzanger | slePP: absolutely -- you, normast and I are all on the same quest.. It's kind of interesting how it comes to gether at the same time |
| 14:04.38 | Druken | about 300 a month |
| 14:04.40 | slePP | MikeJ[Jayden]: i didn't even notice a question. just ignore me. i'm drinking and not thinking :> |
| 14:04.41 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ~troutslap slepp |
| 14:04.44 | jbot | ACTION slaps slepp around with a large trout |
| 14:04.56 | MikeJ[Jayden] | there, thers a fish... I love sharing :) |
| 14:04.57 | *** join/#asterisk Hermes42 (~steve@sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de) |
| 14:04.58 | NormAst | Drunken: What... No... |
| 14:05.45 | Druken | that was the pricing i got from good ole bell canada to my office... but it seems i'm off network for every fucken carrier in the world |
| 14:06.00 | NormAst | Drunken: BRI is based on Centrex pricing... $39.00 per BRI, $4.00 bucks for SDN, and 1 to 5 PSTN are $15.00 each, 6 + are $25.00 |
| 14:06.16 | MikeJ[Jayden] | don't forget the bandwidth if you are really talking about sharing. |
| 14:06.19 | NormAst | Played with BRI 5 years ago. |
| 14:06.27 | think12 | Stupid Bell Canada, when Sprint introduced local phone service... I made the switch in record time. |
| 14:06.35 | Druken | BRI is ISDN correct.... |
| 14:06.38 | JunK-U | how cna i have negative values in cdr? |
| 14:06.41 | slePP | we dont' have bell out here.. not really, anyway |
| 14:06.43 | slePP | no one likes bell |
| 14:06.49 | NormAst | It's a small version of a T1 (PRI) |
| 14:06.50 | MikeJ[Jayden] | bri is 2b+1d isdn |
| 14:06.56 | Druken | think12: so did my parents... and their service sucks ass |
| 14:07.03 | MikeJ[Jayden] | pri is 23b+1d isdn |
| 14:07.25 | *** join/#asterisk zotz (~zotz@24.231.32.191) |
| 14:07.33 | *** join/#asterisk visik7 (~ciao@visik7.user) |
| 14:07.48 | tzanger | I had no idea there were so many canadians in here |
| 14:07.52 | tzanger | I knew of a few but wow |
| 14:07.54 | slePP | druken, talk to normast |
| 14:07.55 | tzanger | we're EVERYWEHRE |
| 14:07.57 | slePP | normast, talk to druken |
| 14:07.57 | Druken | hehe |
| 14:08.04 | MikeJ[Jayden] | damn canadians |
| 14:08.07 | NormAst | I did.. |
| 14:08.09 | MikeJ[Jayden] | :D |
| 14:08.09 | slePP | tzanger: what? yer canadian? damn it! |
| 14:08.18 | NormAst | I provide him IAX from Toronto. |
| 14:08.18 | tzanger | I think we're the second largest minority here... you have they homosexuals here and now the canadians |
| 14:08.22 | tzanger | jeez |
| 14:08.27 | slePP | you can always identify the canadians by the comment 'Where the hell do I get service from!?!?' |
| 14:08.32 | tzanger | slePP: hahaha |
| 14:08.34 | Druken | :) |
| 14:08.37 | slePP | tzanger: don't forget the homosexual canadians..... |
| 14:08.39 | NormAst | :) |
| 14:08.40 | MikeJ[Jayden] | what about gay canadians |
| 14:08.41 | MikeJ[Jayden] | hehe |
| 14:08.44 | Druken | WHERE THE HELL DO I GET SERVICE FROM? :) |
| 14:08.44 | tzanger | slePP: damn there's another one |
| 14:08.59 | slePP | but i do have honourary ops in #asstricks... |
| 14:09.02 | MikeJ[Jayden] | and earlie risers... wtf |
| 14:09.06 | slePP | Druken: ME, now shut up. |
| 14:09.07 | slePP | :> |
| 14:09.09 | NormAst | Wait: WHERE THE HELL DO I GET SERVICE FROM eh? |
| 14:09.17 | MikeJ[Jayden] | drunken, what dind of service? |
| 14:09.33 | slePP | NormAst: ME.. sign up in my office |
| 14:09.36 | Druken | my god people... use your god damn nickcomplette |
| 14:09.37 | Druken | :) |
| 14:09.39 | slePP | i'll give you a 10% discount for "extra services" |
| 14:09.42 | tzanger | Druken: what's your excuse for not going to torastricon? barrie aint' that far... I drive from Listowel and sivana drives from North bay |
| 14:09.52 | *** join/#asterisk Luhiwu (~marsosa@200.63.89.243) |
| 14:09.52 | tzanger | drunken HAHAHHAHA |
| 14:09.54 | slePP | there was a TorAstricon1? |
| 14:09.56 | slePP | .... |
| 14:10.00 | Druken | uhmm... |
| 14:10.07 | slePP | Drunken: you nick needs another n |
| 14:10.08 | tzanger | slePP: across from mel lastman square |
| 14:10.12 | slePP | Drunken: then it'd be cool like tzanger |
| 14:10.14 | slePP | (wtf is tzanger anyway) |
| 14:10.17 | NormAst | slePP: What? |
| 14:10.18 | Druken | lets see... reason... well, the wife working afternoons, and no one to watch my 3 year old son... |
| 14:10.23 | Druken | that good enough? |
| 14:10.25 | slePP | NO |
| 14:10.28 | slePP | it was Astricon! |
| 14:10.30 | tzanger | Druken: A likely excuse |
| 14:10.35 | slePP | he made it up |
| 14:10.37 | tzanger | Druken: a babysitter one afternoon a month :-) |
| 14:10.40 | slePP | i know he's single and lives ina cardboard box |
| 14:10.40 | MikeJ[Jayden] | bring him |
| 14:10.55 | slePP | he tells me this when he calls from a payphone |
| 14:10.57 | tzanger | yeah we haven't gotten a minor drunk in a couple months now, I think it's time for another police warning |
| 14:11.08 | *** join/#asterisk lkthomas (~lkthomas@221.127.212.104) |
| 14:11.10 | lkthomas | hey all |
| 14:11.10 | Druken | hey now, i only called dave from a payphone! |
| 14:11.11 | Druken | hehe |
| 14:11.18 | tzanger | dave's not here! |
| 14:11.20 | slePP | and i'm like: What're those sirens? -- Oh, another guy got shot. I'm in the ghetto. -- What? -- Yeah. I'm going to take his wallet. -- Okay... __ *running footsteps* |
| 14:11.32 | lkthomas | man |
| 14:11.35 | lkthomas | I got a question |
| 14:11.36 | slePP | Dave's not here man...! |
| 14:11.43 | slePP | C&C rule |
| 14:11.44 | lkthomas | is that I could use asterisk to call freely to the world ? |
| 14:11.47 | tzanger | slePP: :-) |
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| 14:11.52 | slePP | lkthomas: to certain areas and people, yes |
| 14:12.00 | tzanger | lkthomas: if you had someone who would provide you free PSTN termination, of course |
| 14:12.03 | lkthomas | slePP: where to check that area ? |
| 14:12.04 | slePP | lkthomas: but if that's all you're looking for, look into Free World Dialup or similar services |
| 14:12.24 | Druken | isn't that ast thingy in toronto next friday ? |
| 14:12.25 | slePP | lkthomas: are you looking for free calls to where your family is or something? asterisk won't help you much |
| 14:12.36 | tzanger | Druken: yes |
| 14:12.44 | slePP | tzanger: you watch That 70's Show? |
| 14:12.47 | Druken | good friday ? like common people |
| 14:12.48 | tzanger | slePP: yes |
| 14:13.00 | tzanger | Druken: oh dear I didn't realize next friday was good friday |
| 14:13.03 | tzanger | I sense it changed |
| 14:13.10 | tzanger | opensource.meetup.com/42 |
| 14:13.24 | Blackvel | is there some join command to join two channels? |
| 14:13.25 | Druken | course, next friday i'll be up near ottawa anyways |
| 14:13.29 | slePP | tzanger: i find i laugh the most when Chong is on :> |
| 14:13.35 | Blackvel | or is it the transfer command in asterisk? |
| 14:13.35 | slePP | especially when he hires Hyde |
| 14:13.40 | tzanger | yes it rocks |
| 14:13.52 | slePP | reminds me of listening to the records with friends :> |
| 14:13.55 | lkthomas | LOL, nah |
| 14:13.56 | *** join/#asterisk JerJer[mobile] (proxyuser@adsl-66-143-63-132.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net) |
| 14:13.58 | lkthomas | just wondering |
| 14:14.00 | slePP | too young to understand, but old enought o know it was damn good |
| 14:14.09 | tzanger | JerJer[mobile]: there you are |
| 14:14.11 | tzanger | jesus |
| 14:14.12 | JerJer[mobile] | slePP: where's my money! |
| 14:14.17 | slePP | heh |
| 14:14.21 | slePP | i sent you some :P |
| 14:14.21 | tzanger | don't you know your're supposed to be on here 24/7 |
| 14:14.35 | Druken | i can't ask slepp for money :( |
| 14:14.43 | slePP | Druken: no.. you can't. not like i have any :> |
| 14:14.46 | tzanger | JerJer[mobile]: can you verify that trunktimestamps=yes in iax.conf and that my user/peer has trunk=yes? |
| 14:14.55 | JerJer[mobile] | on switch-3 ? |
| 14:15.12 | tzanger | JerJer[mobile]: yes on switch-3 |
| 14:15.26 | slePP | if i fly down there, can i pet switch-3 with a feather duster? |
| 14:15.27 | tzanger | before I file a bug report I want to make sure the far-end settings are what I think they are |
| 14:15.36 | tzanger | JerJer[mobile]: actually forget it -- switch-3 has no need for trunktimestamps=yes |
| 14:15.45 | tzanger | it terminates to PRI directly |
| 14:15.48 | JerJer[mobile] | mkay |
| 14:15.50 | tzanger | sorry |
| 14:15.55 | JerJer[mobile] | no worries |
| 14:15.59 | slePP | Druken: oh dear.. |
| 14:16.11 | Druken | oh baby :) |
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| 14:16.17 | JerJer[mobile] | slePP: i knew that lamer would post to an asterisk list |
| 14:16.20 | slePP | don't tell the wives |
| 14:16.25 | JerJer[mobile] | shoulda called vegas for odds |
| 14:16.28 | slePP | JerJer[mobile]: oh! you didn't hear me say... |
| 14:16.36 | slePP | i said they were against, i wasn't betting :P |
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| 14:16.40 | Druken | tell? god no... we'll supply a video feed |
| 14:16.40 | MightyJoeYoung | what is the sip proxy server ? |
| 14:16.44 | slePP | i would've paid out 10:1 to the people who bid against. you bid for. :P |
| 14:16.52 | JerJer[mobile] | :) |
| 14:16.52 | slePP | MightyJoeYoung: uh |
| 14:16.59 | slePP | MightyJoeYoung: that's a Mighty generic question |
| 14:17.03 | tzanger | ha |
| 14:17.04 | MightyJoeYoung | is that the box that is running asterisk ? |
| 14:17.25 | slePP | let's say 'Yes' |
| 14:17.25 | Druken | in a phones config, yes |
| 14:17.26 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (~roy@ti211210a080-2089.bb.online.no) |
| 14:17.30 | RoyK | * is on /. again... |
| 14:17.47 | MikeJ[Jayden] | damn.. I hate those days... |
| 14:17.48 | slePP | we know |
| 14:17.49 | MightyJoeYoung | wat am i supposed to fill in for 'Service Addr' in the config ? |
| 14:17.59 | slePP | MightyJoeYoung: what are you configuring? |
| 14:18.02 | slePP | that would help |
| 14:18.16 | MightyJoeYoung | slePP, just trying to get my phone to work so that my friend can call me in the same office |
| 14:18.26 | slePP | what phone? |
| 14:18.26 | Druken | can i configure my wife to use asterisk? might cost me less |
| 14:18.26 | MightyJoeYoung | slePP, so far it just says Logon Failed |
| 14:18.35 | MightyJoeYoung | slePP, some cheap chinaphone |
| 14:18.36 | slePP | Druken: configure her to use you, and you'll be happier |
| 14:18.40 | slePP | Chinaphone |
| 14:18.42 | slePP | alright then |
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| 14:18.50 | slePP | MightyJoeYoung: the SIP proxy is asterisk. Service Address, i dunno |
| 14:18.57 | Druken | nah, i get used by enough people.. hehe |
| 14:19.08 | MightyJoeYoung | slePP, you mean i don have to fill that in ? |
| 14:19.25 | slePP | i'd say no |
| 14:19.25 | slePP | :> |
| 14:19.33 | Druken | i would assume the service address be the same as sip proxy |
| 14:19.51 | MightyJoeYoung | slePP, we are doing it on a lan |
| 14:19.51 | Druken | again? |
| 14:20.17 | slePP | MightyJoeYoung: yeh, that isn't really helping |
| 14:20.25 | MightyJoeYoung | right |
| 14:20.39 | Druken | i have clients both inside and outside my network... |
| 14:21.02 | JerJer[mobile] | slePP: a few replies on both sides |
| 14:21.05 | MightyJoeYoung | slePP, what kind of info would be helpful ? |
| 14:21.12 | slePP | MightyJoeYoung: SIP Proxy means where calls go in and get redirected/connected from |
| 14:21.14 | NormAst | What would you guess would be the require CPU power to take 23 channels of ulaw and send them VIA IAX to another box? That's it.. |
| 14:21.22 | slePP | Service Addr is either the number of the phone, or it's the SIP Proxy |
| 14:21.27 | slePP | JerJer[mobile]: on both? interesting.. |
| 14:21.36 | MikeJ[Jayden] | http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/03/20/0911217.shtml?tid=215&tid=95&tid=218 |
| 14:21.47 | MikeJ[Jayden] | sigh.. it will be one of those days |
| 14:21.49 | slePP | NormAst: don't need to guess. 30% :> |
| 14:21.54 | *** join/#asterisk ditesh (~eggman@60.49.67.144) |
| 14:21.56 | slePP | 100% during call setup |
| 14:22.02 | NormAst | Of what P1? P2? P4? |
| 14:22.05 | slePP | Xeon 3.2ghz |
| 14:22.08 | Druken | hehe |
| 14:22.09 | NormAst | :( |
| 14:22.10 | JerJer[mobile] | slePP: yeah a few said we never responded to them or whatever and others came out saying they've never had a problem |
| 14:22.18 | JerJer[mobile] | can't please everybody |
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| 14:22.23 | NormAst | I think I could get away with a P1...133Mhz. |
| 14:22.23 | MightyJoeYoung | slePP, what are good softphones we can use without problems on linux ? |
| 14:22.25 | slePP | that's with a Sangoma 2 port controller, 23 channels of PRI, 23 IAX2 uLaw's |
| 14:22.58 | slePP | JerJer[mobile]: nope. i'm fine enough with nufone. no issues, it just works.. :> i dunno what ppl'd email you about 'It broke. FIX IT.'.. those don't get replies in any case |
| 14:23.06 | NormAst | I would try it but I don't want to wait for Debian to install.. |
| 14:23.12 | JerJer[mobile] | slePP: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-March/thread.html#94749 |
| 14:23.16 | Druken | debian? |
| 14:23.17 | slePP | MightyJoeYoung: on linux? look into gnomemeeting. i like that one |
| 14:23.21 | NormAst | hmmm.. under-clock... |
| 14:23.25 | JerJer[mobile] | but then some of the responses weren't threaded for some reason (lame posters?) |
| 14:23.35 | NormAst | Yup...Debain... |
| 14:23.38 | JerJer[mobile] | so search for NuFone.net |
| 14:23.38 | slePP | 'I Used Outlook XP!' |
| 14:23.39 | Druken | yuck! |
| 14:23.39 | NormAst | It works. |
| 14:23.54 | MightyJoeYoung | slePP, but gnomemeeting doesn't support sip ? |
| 14:23.55 | slePP | oh sweet! we got the screenshot! |
| 14:23.59 | slePP | MightyJoeYoung: it has to support SIP? |
| 14:24.01 | slePP | uhm. |
| 14:24.02 | NormAst | What do you like Druken... XP? HA HA HA |
| 14:24.03 | slePP | linphone? |
| 14:24.18 | NormAst | Oh wait... That's me who uses XP. |
| 14:24.22 | Druken | actually, i'm partial to slack, but i'm gonna be trying gentoo on a new server |
| 14:24.26 | MightyJoeYoung | slePP, Mar 20 22:17:43 NOTICE[23775]: Registration from '"0" <sip:0@192.168.1.2>' failed for '192.168.1.140' |
| 14:24.27 | MightyJoeYoung | augh |
| 14:24.34 | fugitivo | why I see a lot of mpg123 processes on my box? |
| 14:24.36 | Druken | i use xp as a workstation tho |
| 14:24.48 | Druken | fugitivo: that's your music on hold |
| 14:25.01 | NormAst | Why? Don't waste your time... Pop in Debian Sarge and in 10 minutes your done. |
| 14:25.09 | fugitivo | Druken: but, is it normal if I don't have calls? this is just a test box |
| 14:25.22 | Druken | fugitivo: yes it's normal |
| 14:25.31 | fugitivo | Druken: ok, thanks |
| 14:25.43 | Druken | you music as soon as you put a call on hold, not have to wait for it |
| 14:25.54 | fugitivo | oh ok, i understand now |
| 14:25.55 | fugitivo | thanks |
| 14:26.30 | Druken | NormAst: never did like debian.... i've used slack for like 5 years now |
| 14:26.36 | slePP | MightyJoeYoung: that may have been Service Addr |
| 14:26.47 | slePP | JerJer[mobile]: okay. i like the 'And we reserve rights to your toll-free number' :> |
| 14:26.52 | slePP | that's a great quote |
| 14:27.00 | Druken | god damn... i need the remote... stupid country western on the tv |
| 14:27.51 | MikeJ[Jayden] | hey JerJer[mobile]: any word on my did :( |
| 14:28.14 | slePP | > shots about this, plus your support sucks |
| 14:28.19 | slePP | heh. good english |
| 14:28.23 | Druken | anyone here like snow? they can feel free to come take it all from my place |
| 14:29.36 | slePP | people suck |
| 14:29.42 | Druken | you had someone move off you? |
| 14:29.49 | slePP | no, i'm talking about jerjer's complainant |
| 14:29.54 | Druken | ahh ok |
| 14:30.01 | slePP | we lost one customer so far, of like 200 |
| 14:30.03 | slePP | but that's cuz he's a knob |
| 14:30.12 | Druken | i don't want no more damn snow.. i got my own falling thank you |
| 14:30.14 | Jer13261 | anyone have acess to the SMS DB? |
| 14:30.29 | Druken | aren't most customers a knob? |
| 14:31.00 | slePP | but at least they speak knob in english |
| 14:31.05 | slePP | so we can understand what they're having problems with |
| 14:31.13 | Druken | sometimes |
| 14:31.25 | slePP | we truly just gave up on the guy.. we'd try to help, he'd do someting dumb like turn off his house power.. then call us andyell in languages we couldn't understand |
| 14:31.42 | Druken | i don't get it.. we get echo only calling THIS number, what's wrong with YOUR system.. hehe |
| 14:32.21 | Druken | oh, like why doesn't my phone work, when the power is off.. hmm... |
| 14:32.27 | slePP | yeh |
| 14:32.27 | Druken | yup... that's a true knob |
| 14:32.42 | slePP | 'When we call this lady in China, she can't hear us. Ever. We have to yell.' |
| 14:32.48 | slePP | 'Okay.. Do you get this with anyone else?' |
| 14:32.50 | slePP | 'No.' |
| 14:32.53 | slePP | 'Other people in CHina?' |
| 14:32.54 | slePP | 'No' |
| 14:33.00 | slePP | 'Then this really isn't anything we can help you with.' |
| 14:33.02 | slePP | 'But it's your system!' |
| 14:33.07 | slePP | 'No, I think it's the person in China.' |
| 14:33.22 | Druken | hehe i had to explain to my customer about that one... |
| 14:33.38 | Druken | it's not our system, it's your peice of shit security alarm |
| 14:33.55 | JerJer[mobile] | and the funny thing is a new customer pointed out that thread to me |
| 14:34.01 | slePP | hehe |
| 14:34.09 | JerJer[mobile] | so he did nothing but bring at least one more customer to me |
| 14:34.12 | slePP | were they amused by it, or going 'uhm, what's up..?' |
| 14:34.14 | dwmw2_gone | grr |
| 14:34.39 | dwmw2_gone | I haven't got my email after registering with gnophone |
| 14:34.46 | slePP | oh, i bet this in a FAQ, jerjer, but.. can i be setup to receive e-mail CDRs? yes/no, quick answer :> |
| 14:34.54 | slePP | (e-mailed monthly or such) |
| 14:34.54 | dwmw2_gone | it's trying to send the mail from an invalid address which doesn't accept bounces |
| 14:35.03 | NormAst | No |
| 14:35.07 | NormAst | :) |
| 14:35.17 | Druken | sure, why not? |
| 14:35.23 | JerJer[mobile] | he said somethng to the effect of, "i saw this thread on asterisk-users but figured I'd give you a try to have first hand experience with your company" |
| 14:35.26 | JerJer[mobile] | faq? |
| 14:35.48 | slePP | Obscenely Frequently Asked Question may have been more appropriate :> |
| 14:35.53 | slePP | i just didn't feel like looking. |
| 14:35.58 | fugitivo | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:36.10 | slePP | good of the new customer to realize the guy whining is just whining |
| 14:36.22 | JerJer[mobile] | u can login to your account and look at CDRs, but it appears the save to csv option is broken on many browsers |
| 14:36.30 | NormAst | Web interface. |
| 14:36.46 | NormAst | Why send out stuff that poeple stop looking at.. |
| 14:36.49 | SwedMiro | a good thing with other companies as customers is that they themselves often have been whined at themselves.. |
| 14:36.50 | slePP | JerJer[mobile]: k, yeh. that wasn't the question. :> e-mailed automagically or no? |
| 14:37.00 | JerJer[mobile] | lol no |
| 14:37.05 | slePP | okie. :> |
| 14:37.17 | JerJer[mobile] | the new version will have skilled like that |
| 14:37.22 | slePP | ;> |
| 14:37.27 | JerJer[mobile] | skilled? skillz |
| 14:37.30 | slePP | hehehe |
| 14:37.42 | slePP | is this another entire engine rewrite, or just frontend stuff? |
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| 14:38.15 | JerJer[mobile] | front-end |
| 14:39.10 | slePP | which means about the same thing ; |
| 14:39.11 | slePP | > |
| 14:39.18 | Druken | er... yeah |
| 14:39.20 | JerJer[mobile] | i wrote, imho, a killer api for accessing all of the various bits of information |
| 14:39.31 | slePP | from your backend, or from asterisk generic backend? |
| 14:39.34 | Druken | i guess i'll have to draw out my cdr's soon |
| 14:39.42 | JerJer[mobile] | without locking myself into a specific html |
| 14:39.44 | JerJer[mobile] | my own |
| 14:40.03 | NormAst | Yup. |
| 14:40.24 | JerJer[mobile] | right now it is just a https post type api, but I have hooks in there to downgrade to full out SOAP, if necessary |
| 14:40.27 | Druken | NormAst: yup ? |
| 14:40.43 | blitzrage | man does being sick ever suck |
| 14:40.51 | JerJer[mobile] | word |
| 14:40.52 | slePP | JerJer[mobile]: no xml-rpc? |
| 14:40.57 | JerJer[mobile] | um no |
| 14:41.16 | JerJer[mobile] | well xml encoded responses, just not xml-rpc |
| 14:41.17 | NormAst | Drunken: Getting your own CDR. |
| 14:41.23 | slePP | JerJer[mobile]: yeh, which is SOAP, then :> |
| 14:41.30 | JerJer[mobile] | sorta |
| 14:41.31 | blitzrage | slePP: you'll have to grind them into a paste for me, as my throat hurts so much I haven't eaten solid food in a week |
| 14:41.38 | slePP | blitzrage: ooooh. that ad? |
| 14:41.39 | slePP | bad |
| 14:41.56 | JerJer[mobile] | the current production version just shits XML at you |
| 14:41.57 | blitzrage | slePP: yah, I haven't eaten anything other than one sandwich all week |
| 14:42.07 | fugitivo | Mar 20 11:41:59 NOTICE[2026]: res_musiconhold.c:309 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! |
| 14:42.12 | fugitivo | what is that? |
| 14:42.13 | slePP | fugitivo: no timing device |
| 14:42.15 | JerJer[mobile] | the development version I have will do the whole soap envelop crap |
| 14:42.19 | blitzrage | slePP: I'm almost curious how much weight i've lost |
| 14:42.25 | slePP | blitzrage: go weigh yourself |
| 14:42.25 | fugitivo | slePP: mmm |
| 14:42.29 | blitzrage | slePP: no scale ;) |
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| 14:42.48 | NormAst | blitzrage: Can you kill your registration from your system? Keep getting messages on the server. |
| 14:42.54 | slePP | blitzrage: that won't work then, will it |
| 14:42.55 | blitzrage | NormAst: yep |
| 14:43.00 | NormAst | :) |
| 14:43.05 | Hokie1203 | anyone had experience running Asterisk on top of Mandrake 10.1 |
| 14:43.14 | slePP | i imagine it's pretty Hokie... |
| 14:43.18 | slePP | being mandrake and all |
| 14:43.19 | blitzrage | NormAst: oh wait... how do I do that again? |
| 14:43.31 | Druken | mandrake is for windows users |
| 14:43.34 | slePP | god i'm bored.... |
| 14:43.48 | fugitivo | slePP: thanks |
| 14:44.08 | slePP | fugitivo: it doesn't mean anything too serious... but you should get some sort of zaptel timing going, and it'll behave |
| 14:44.14 | MikeJ[Jayden] | http://www.asteriskwin32.com/ is for windows users :) |
| 14:44.24 | fugitivo | slePP: yep, i'm reading about that |
| 14:44.26 | Hokie1203 | new to asterisk and going to build system soon. deciding what linux version to use |
| 14:44.44 | Ridgeback | Hokie1203, i use gentoo with no problems. |
| 14:44.46 | slePP | Hokie1203: gentoo |
| 14:44.47 | Druken | voip has no place on windows... sorry |
| 14:44.58 | fugitivo | slePP: too bad i'm using openbsd |
| 14:44.58 | JerJer[mobile] | Asterisk is distro agnostic |
| 14:45.00 | Ridgeback | Druken, well said! |
| 14:45.09 | slePP | fugitivo: i thought they had support for that now |
| 14:45.16 | slePP | maybe not. if not, then just live with it. nothing else to be done about it |
| 14:45.31 | slePP | you'll notice a bit of a pop or skip alongside that usually |
| 14:45.41 | fugitivo | slePP: there's too little documentation about asterisk+openbsd |
| 14:45.56 | slePP | perhaps there is. i have no idea :> |
| 14:45.59 | Druken | so start writing some |
| 14:46.03 | slePP | yes |
| 14:46.06 | blitzrage | fugitivo: remove the +openbsd on the end of your sentence |
| 14:46.07 | slePP | do what Drunken says |
| 14:46.13 | JerJer[mobile] | or just run asterisk on linux |
| 14:46.17 | fugitivo | blitzrage: :) |
| 14:46.19 | slePP | or don't run asterisk at all |
| 14:46.24 | blitzrage | Cisco! |
| 14:46.25 | Druken | you of all people... |
| 14:46.25 | slePP | and use sipXpress or something :> |
| 14:46.32 | slePP | Drunken: like i didn't mean to! |
| 14:46.34 | Ridgeback | run dos 3.0 |
| 14:46.44 | blitzrage | DOS 5.0 is better |
| 14:46.50 | Ridgeback | blitzrage, right |
| 14:46.51 | slePP | i prefered SlOS |
| 14:46.53 | Druken | Dos 6.22 |
| 14:46.57 | blitzrage | 6.22 sucked |
| 14:46.58 | slePP | but i think only a few people ever really used SlOS |
| 14:46.59 | fugitivo | well, when i get more experience i'll write documentation for openbsd |
| 14:47.01 | Ridgeback | DR-DOS! |
| 14:47.02 | slePP | 4DOS on 6.22 ruled |
| 14:47.15 | slePP | but, of all the OSes, i liked Minix the best |
| 14:47.15 | Ridgeback | think asterisk could run on a C64? |
| 14:47.18 | slePP | simple, straight forward, 8088 |
| 14:47.23 | slePP | Ridgeback: no |
| 14:47.23 | blitzrage | fugitivo: I've heard that a million times and will believe it when I see something submitted to the docs project |
| 14:47.32 | Ridgeback | slePP, darn... |
| 14:47.36 | slePP | blitzrage: what? people saying they'll write docs and don't? i don't believe you! |
| 14:47.39 | JerJer[mobile] | screw operating systems.... lets port everything to PIC |
| 14:47.42 | blitzrage | slePP: lol |
| 14:47.47 | blitzrage | slePP: yah, crazy huh? |
| 14:47.48 | slePP | JerJer[mobile]: then we'll end up with CCM |
| 14:47.52 | JerJer[mobile] | lolol |
| 14:47.53 | slePP | or, worse, Budgetones |
| 14:48.02 | Ridgeback | i wonder if i could get asterisk to compile and run on my Ipaq running Familair linux at 266mhz? :) |
| 14:48.08 | slePP | blitzrage: i just.. i...i can't fathom that.. i mean.... .. *gasp* |
| 14:48.14 | slePP | Ridgeback: and that, i hear, does work |
| 14:48.15 | Jer13261 | hmm |
| 14:48.21 | blitzrage | I love this bug: http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=3810 |
| 14:48.27 | blitzrage | MAJOR BUG! |
| 14:48.27 | fugitivo | blitzrage: the problem with openbsd are drivers, no zaptel drivers, and i don't have money to buy more expensive cards to test, so it's only voip for my openbsd |
| 14:48.32 | JerJer[mobile] | Ridgeback: sure - just struggle thru the cross compiling hell of asterisk |
| 14:48.36 | Ridgeback | slePP, no kidding? well i'll have to do it for bragging rights |
| 14:48.45 | slePP | then do so |
| 14:48.46 | Druken | i have asterisk on a 400... |
| 14:48.52 | fugitivo | me too |
| 14:48.53 | Druken | only 1 fxo and 3 fxs... |
| 14:49.00 | slePP | Druken: but that's x86, but MIPS or something |
| 14:49.14 | Druken | hehe |
| 14:49.17 | blitzrage | my whole company is running Asterisk on a P100 with 64 megs of RAM |
| 14:49.17 | Ridgeback | yeah a few of my friends run asterisk on Dell <shudder> p3 400's! |
| 14:49.19 | Druken | it's betty :) |
| 14:49.32 | slePP | blitzrage: that's a good bug |
| 14:49.41 | fugitivo | blitzrage: how big is your company? |
| 14:50.05 | blitzrage | fugitivo: 100 people. I've dedicated 1 MHz of processing power to each simultaneous call. |
| 14:50.29 | RaYmAn-Bx | the system doesn't need anything then? :P |
| 14:50.36 | Druken | jesus, how long does it take to drive down the road and get a fucken coffee? |
| 14:50.37 | fugitivo | what about ram? |
| 14:50.43 | Druken | whife has been gone for like 30 mins |
| 14:50.51 | blitzrage | fugitivo: Asterisk doesn't need RAM, that's an urban myth |
| 14:51.01 | blitzrage | Druken: quicky at her lovers |
| 14:51.09 | Druken | no kidding |
| 14:51.21 | blitzrage | Druken: just be happy she's out of the house :D |
| 14:51.37 | Druken | hehe it's much quieter |
| 14:51.43 | blitzrage | lol |
| 14:52.01 | slePP | mmmmmmmmmmm |
| 14:52.02 | slePP | coffee |
| 14:52.12 | blitzrage | coffee sucks |
| 14:52.17 | fugitivo | energy drinks are better |
| 14:52.18 | Druken | but she's also driving one of my vans without a proper license, and it's snowing... |
| 14:52.18 | slePP | egg mcmuffins |
| 14:52.22 | slePP | w/ hashbrowns |
| 14:52.24 | slePP | and gravy |
| 14:52.25 | Druken | it does tend to raise a concern or two |
| 14:52.28 | slePP | and chicken legs |
| 14:52.30 | slePP | and fresh salmon |
| 14:52.34 | blitzrage | Druken: fair enough :) |
| 14:52.36 | slePP | toasted in a honey roasted garlic |
| 14:52.37 | fugitivo | one energy drink every morning |
| 14:52.42 | slePP | with a sprig of asparagus and lemon |
| 14:52.48 | Druken | she's already wrote off one car this year |
| 14:52.52 | blitzrage | slePP: I hate you... you realize I haven't eaten in a week right? |
| 14:53.01 | blitzrage | Druken: and you continue to let her drive? |
| 14:53.02 | slePP | blitzrage: i haven't eaten in two days. so what? :P |
| 14:53.08 | slePP | hence why i'm fantasizing |
| 14:53.09 | JerJer[mobile] | i've got asterisk rockin on a mpc85xx 50mhz processor |
| 14:53.17 | JerJer[mobile] | so dive in |
| 14:53.22 | Druken | blitzrage: it's either let her drive, or get up at 4 am to drive her to work... |
| 14:53.25 | Druken | what would you do ? |
| 14:53.34 | blitzrage | Druken: tell her to walk |
| 14:53.48 | slePP | JerJer[mobile]: is that switch-1? |
| 14:53.49 | slePP | :> |
| 14:53.49 | Druken | slePP: mcdonals isn't far from you, it's before 10:30... go nuts :) |
| 14:53.58 | slePP | Druken: it's about a minute away :> |
| 14:54.03 | Druken | exactly |
| 14:54.04 | fugitivo | mcdonalds is bad |
| 14:54.11 | Druken | mcdonalds is good |
| 14:54.11 | fugitivo | did you see Super Size me? |
| 14:54.16 | Druken | nope |
| 14:54.17 | Druken | :) |
| 14:54.23 | Druken | have no intention to see it either |
| 14:54.27 | blitzrage | I think its dumb that mcdonalds stops serving breakfast at 10:30am. I mean... who the hell is getting a burger at 10:30am?! |
| 14:54.30 | fugitivo | you should see it |
| 14:54.33 | Druken | i eat too much fast food to watch shit like that |
| 14:54.40 | blitzrage | Druken: exactly ;) |
| 14:54.56 | blitzrage | End of Suburbia is better |
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| 14:55.03 | slePP | blitzrage: i'vbe been known to order burgers at 9am... and 8am.. so me! |
| 14:55.05 | Druken | well, lets see you spend 8 hours in the car everyday and NOT eat fast food, k? :) |
| 14:55.25 | slePP | but, the question isn't 'why do they start serving burgers at 10:30', because burgers are _always_ available.. it's 'why don't theyu just serve breakfast till 10pm?' |
| 14:55.31 | blitzrage | I can't believe how FUCKED we are in like 20-30 years |
| 14:55.33 | slePP | or from midnight to 4am, to catch the drunk ppl from bars |
| 14:55.38 | slePP | we're already fucked |
| 14:55.39 | slePP | so who cares |
| 14:56.04 | blitzrage | slePP: at least we can still grow food, and California isn't under water yet :) |
| 14:56.05 | slePP | my Receiver sucks |
| 14:56.05 | Druken | after 20-30 i would hope everyone has been FUCKED at least once or twice... |
| 14:56.13 | tzanger | slePP: burger king will give youa burger at 6am |
| 14:56.16 | tzanger | I know from experience |
| 14:56.19 | slePP | blitzrage: give cali a month or two |
| 14:56.23 | slePP | tzafrir: wendy's won't :< |
| 14:56.47 | tzanger | blitzrage: you know that torastricon is on good friday, right?? |
| 14:56.50 | Druken | wendy's sucks ass |
| 14:56.56 | tzafrir | slePP, maybe |
| 14:56.57 | tzanger | no way their burgers rock |
| 14:56.58 | Druken | they don't even have a breakfast |
| 14:57.05 | tzanger | but sometimes I want the grease only a good whopper can provide |
| 14:57.15 | fugitivo | I went to work to Miami for one year, and I needed to buy new clothes |
| 14:57.15 | blitzrage | tzanger: lol... so it is |
| 14:57.32 | blitzrage | tzanger: I don't think I can make it this month... heading home on Thursday night probably. |
| 14:57.38 | tzanger | yeah me either |
| 14:57.38 | slePP | god damn autocompletemotherlfkasjldkj |
| 14:57.51 | blitzrage | tzanger: better go set my RSVP to no then |
| 14:57.53 | jakepdev | jer - do you know if greg is available on tuesday? |
| 14:58.14 | tzanger | eh? |
| 14:58.17 | tzanger | I'm not idling |
| 14:58.18 | Druken | who said they were from listowel ? |
| 14:58.21 | tzanger | me |
| 14:58.23 | tzanger | <-- |
| 14:58.25 | slePP | tzafrir: shush! i just idled you |
| 14:58.30 | tzanger | haha |
| 14:58.34 | slePP | Listowel? sounds like what you get in a hotel room bathroom |
| 14:58.35 | tzanger | don't make me make jbot lart you |
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| 14:58.41 | slePP | ~lart tzanger |
| 14:58.42 | tzanger | slePP: true enough |
| 14:58.44 | slePP | hah! |
| 14:58.51 | tzanger | it beats the next town over... "Dorking" |
| 14:58.55 | slePP | hahaha |
| 14:59.00 | slePP | that.. |
| 14:59.02 | slePP | that makes me giggle |
| 14:59.05 | tzanger | yes |
| 14:59.12 | tzanger | I've been here 14 years and it still makes me giggle |
| 14:59.23 | slePP | ick |
| 14:59.28 | slePP | wine or beer or coolers |
| 14:59.30 | slePP | no straight liquors |
| 14:59.39 | Druken | hehe |
| 14:59.42 | slePP | tzanger: are you only 14? if so.... want to meet? |
| 14:59.46 | slePP | i know a nice secluded back alley |
| 14:59.48 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 14:59.49 | slePP | where we can be "friends" |
| 14:59.53 | slePP | i'm not creepy |
| 14:59.55 | slePP | don't worry |
| 15:00.05 | Druken | he's got the long hair, he can be the girl |
| 15:00.06 | slePP | i won't touch you in.. dirty.. nasty..... *twitch* diiiirty old man ways |
| 15:00.12 | tzanger | slePP: I have to warn you that the Jackson defense doesn't work anymore |
| 15:00.18 | slePP | this is canada, mate |
| 15:00.21 | slePP | 14 is age of consent |
| 15:00.21 | tzanger | I don't have long hair |
| 15:00.32 | tzanger | in fact it's rather short |
| 15:00.32 | slePP | all i need you to say ius 'yes' |
| 15:00.35 | slePP | and i can do anything i want :> |
| 15:00.37 | Druken | no but slepp does |
| 15:00.38 | Druken | hehe |
| 15:00.40 | slePP | http://geeksanon.ca/vic.jpg |
| 15:00.41 | slePP | that's me |
| 15:00.48 | slePP | with shht r |
| 15:00.53 | slePP | short hair |
| 15:00.54 | slePP | stupid keyboard |
| 15:00.55 | Druken | hahahaha |
| 15:00.56 | tzanger | oh for fuck sakes |
| 15:01.06 | tzanger | if you're gonna pose for a cleavage shot have some boobage to speak of |
| 15:01.13 | slePP | well! |
| 15:01.24 | Druken | hahaha |
| 15:01.25 | slePP | http://geeksanon.ca/slepp-vix.jpg |
| 15:01.31 | slePP | i can't help it she's a B cup :P |
| 15:01.33 | slePP | picky bastard |
| 15:01.41 | slePP | but, keep in mind. she's also 6 feet tall |
| 15:01.45 | slePP | so.. that's actually a fair size |
| 15:01.45 | tzanger | see now she is pretty in that pic |
| 15:01.50 | tzanger | the other pic was trying too hard |
| 15:01.58 | slePP | she was stoned on mushrooms. she wasn't trying anything :P |
| 15:02.00 | Druken | hehe |
| 15:02.13 | tzanger | ahh so you took shameless advantage of her in her altered state |
| 15:02.13 | slePP | she was genuinely pleased to be looked at and was about to fall over :P |
| 15:02.16 | slePP | yes! |
| 15:02.19 | tzanger | she probably though she was making love to a tree or something |
| 15:02.21 | slePP | you should see the other 500 pictures from that night |
| 15:02.35 | slePP | then whine about cleavage |
| 15:02.46 | blitzrage | slePP: hey... who is that... I think thats the girl I picked up at the bar last week |
| 15:02.54 | slePP | blitzrage: really? which city? |
| 15:03.05 | tzanger | http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/elementaryhunk.jpg |
| 15:03.06 | tzanger | that's me |
| 15:03.11 | blitzrage | slePP: damn... called my bluff :D |
| 15:03.19 | slePP | blitzrage: no, really. which city? ;> |
| 15:03.21 | SwedMiro | whooopdidooo..curling on TV |
| 15:03.28 | blitzrage | tzanger: lol!!! |
| 15:03.31 | slePP | tzanger: it has 'elementary' in it.. the judge said i can't go near that..... |
| 15:03.31 | NormAst | ha ha ha |
| 15:03.43 | slePP | sweet |
| 15:03.56 | tzanger | http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/lying-lion.jpg |
| 15:03.57 | bhima | I know this is probably a bad question to ask...I'm installing an Asterisk system wth an ISDN card. It's going to sit on its own without much interactive stuff. I have no real Linux flavor preferences, just wondering if anybody here has any suggestions... |
| 15:04.05 | tzanger | that picture had me laughing hysterically for sooooo long |
| 15:04.13 | Druken | i like watching people slip on the curling ice, cause they don't know better |
| 15:04.13 | slePP | that lion one? |
| 15:04.13 | tzanger | I was in a bit of a low spell and that fucking lion pic showed up |
| 15:04.22 | slePP | how low were you..? |
| 15:04.24 | tzanger | it looks like a gopher bit his nuts or something |
| 15:04.28 | jakepdev | bhima - use *@home |
| 15:04.35 | slePP | bhima: gentoo |
| 15:04.38 | tzanger | I love the fark photoshop contests |
| 15:04.43 | fugitivo | bhima: don't start a distro war :) |
| 15:04.44 | slePP | fark is good |
| 15:04.50 | tzanger | I mean what kind of a sick mind thinks to put Big Bird's eyes on a Lion?? |
| 15:04.56 | bhima | jakepdev: can you tell me how to google for that? |
| 15:04.58 | slePP | fugitivo: nah, we just all say something and don't pay any attention after that :> |
| 15:05.03 | tzanger | I mean really... unbelievable... I emailed him and thanked him for getting me out of my funk |
| 15:05.05 | jakepdev | asterisk@home |
| 15:05.16 | tzanger | http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/muptrix.jpg |
| 15:05.16 | Jer13261 | + |
| 15:05.19 | tzanger | that one is pretty good too |
| 15:05.23 | NormAst | bhima: Find out what distro the manufacture of the card will support and use it. |
| 15:05.33 | blitzrage | bhima: use any of them. I like CentOS |
| 15:05.43 | slePP | perhaps cuz i thought the movies were such shite |
| 15:05.44 | SwedMiro | Asterisk@ome http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+at++Home |
| 15:05.46 | bhima | normast: PCI Fritz card... |
| 15:05.47 | Druken | i'm gettin to a point where i'm gonna go look for the wife |
| 15:06.05 | tzanger | http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/stfu.jpg |
| 15:06.11 | roamer323 | I think that cat had an intense night trying to figure out the * H.323 stack |
| 15:06.15 | fugitivo | bhima: i use only gentoo and openbsd (not good driver support for asterisk), but, you should use the one you fell better |
| 15:06.16 | bhima | (so I figure most stuff should support it) |
| 15:06.16 | tzanger | I am gonna make that into a poster I think |
| 15:06.26 | blitzrage | tzanger: nice poster :) |
| 15:06.28 | NormAst | bhima: look around and find out what Distro poeple have gotten it working with. |
| 15:06.41 | tzanger | blitzrage: I do product applicaiton training... I think it fits well :-) |
| 15:06.47 | Druken | oh my slePP.... |
| 15:06.49 | blitzrage | tzanger: oooooooooh yah! |
| 15:06.53 | slePP | i am definitely now going to our good friends mcd's... screw you ALL |
| 15:06.56 | tzanger | http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/word.jpg |
| 15:06.58 | slePP | for not loving me in the way i wish druken would |
| 15:06.58 | tzanger | and of course that |
| 15:07.00 | tzanger | I love that |
| 15:07.09 | slePP | that word one is a gooder |
| 15:07.14 | blitzrage | tzanger: LOL! |
| 15:07.15 | bhima | *@home looks interesting. I wish I'd found that previously; I didn't have a working monitor at one point... |
| 15:07.19 | Druken | oh.... |
| 15:07.31 | Druken | well, she's been to the gas station, and the grocery store... |
| 15:07.39 | blitzrage | tzanger: do you have a listing of all these?! those are hilarious |
| 15:07.41 | Druken | so much for going out just for coffee |
| 15:07.42 | *** join/#asterisk Chris_DE (~ChrisDE@p54A22CF5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:07.50 | Druken | internet banking... god i love it |
| 15:07.58 | Druken | realtime reporting |
| 15:08.00 | Druken | hehe |
| 15:08.00 | jakepdev | bhmima - *@home doesn't require much to get it working - can you press ENTER? |
| 15:08.15 | SwedMiro | <---- havent been into a bank for over 2 years now |
| 15:08.18 | bhima | jake: I grabbed a monitor from the trash, so I have a monitor now :) |
| 15:08.22 | blitzrage | tzanger: nevermind, guess I can just view the whole dir. that works ;) |
| 15:08.25 | tzanger | blitzrage: just jump up one level |
| 15:08.33 | bhima | <---- doesn't speak enough German to use his bank's internet banking. |
| 15:08.53 | tzanger | gibt mehr das Euros |
| 15:08.55 | tzanger | :-) |
| 15:09.10 | tzanger | http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/andrewhome.jpg |
| 15:09.13 | tzanger | in case anyone cares :-) |
| 15:09.14 | tzanger | EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 15:09.16 | tzanger | BIG MACS?!! |
| 15:09.25 | tzanger | I have not eaten one of those in 14 years |
| 15:09.29 | tzanger | DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESGUSTING |
| 15:09.35 | slePP | do you live int eh barn? |
| 15:09.36 | fugitivo | me neither, it sucks here |
| 15:09.37 | slePP | or in the house? |
| 15:09.40 | NormAst | tzanger: You get High speed there? |
| 15:09.47 | bhima | I want a big Mac. A dual CPU dual core G5 system would be nice. |
| 15:09.51 | fugitivo | it seems they split one hambuger in two to make a big mac :) |
| 15:09.54 | tzanger | NormAst: well I have a 1268kb SDSL connection to my house |
| 15:10.01 | Druken | hehe |
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| 15:10.05 | tzanger | fugitivo: and they throw a salad in there too |
| 15:10.07 | NormAst | You are out in the sticks like me. |
| 15:10.08 | *** join/#asterisk Hokie1203 (~Hokie1203@bb220-255-77-252.singnet.com.sg) |
| 15:10.13 | tzanger | NormAst: I do have fiber between the house and barn though |
| 15:10.13 | *** part/#asterisk Hokie1203 (~Hokie1203@bb220-255-77-252.singnet.com.sg) |
| 15:10.13 | *** join/#asterisk Hokie1203 (~Hokie1203@bb220-255-77-252.singnet.com.sg) |
| 15:10.16 | tzanger | or at least I will this summer |
| 15:10.18 | slePP | k. McDonald's, and I'm not bringing any back for anyone else |
| 15:10.20 | *** part/#asterisk Hokie1203 (~Hokie1203@bb220-255-77-252.singnet.com.sg) |
| 15:10.27 | Druken | pfft |
| 15:10.28 | fugitivo | its a "split" mac |
| 15:10.32 | NormAst | Tzanger: How far are you from the CO ? |
| 15:10.37 | tzanger | NormAst: 4km exactly |
| 15:10.38 | Druken | i want a number 7 with bacon damnit! |
| 15:10.48 | Wonka | Druken: royal with cheese! |
| 15:10.53 | NormAst | tzanger: Your so lucky.. I am running about 6km |
| 15:10.54 | tzanger | the CO is pretty much exactly where the (86) is |
| 15:11.00 | Druken | wtf is a royal ? |
| 15:11.01 | tzanger | er sorry |
| 15:11.10 | Wonka | Druken: or quarterpounder, as the imperialistic system users say |
| 15:11.15 | tzanger | no about the same distance away from Wallace Ave N toward me |
| 15:11.17 | tzanger | sorry |
| 15:11.24 | Wonka | Druken: never watched "Pulp Fiction"? ;) |
| 15:11.25 | Druken | no... it's breakfast... |
| 15:11.32 | tzanger | I'm 4km from work, 4km from the CO, 4km from a REALLY hot woman I went to school with |
| 15:11.33 | Druken | would be a sausage mcgriddle with bacon |
| 15:11.34 | fugitivo | i like the dressing of the big mac |
| 15:11.34 | Druken | :) |
| 15:11.35 | tzanger | heh |
| 15:11.36 | Chris_DE | hi. anyone an idea why fax doesn't work over sip? ... spandsp |
| 15:11.40 | tzanger | fugitivo: ewwwwwwwww |
| 15:11.50 | NormAst | tzanger: Going to try and get Wireless working between me and a small business down the street. |
| 15:11.52 | tzanger | Chris_DE: because fax over IP is not a realistic goal |
| 15:12.00 | Druken | k, i'm gone for an hour |
| 15:12.01 | Moc | spandsp work over sip for me |
| 15:12.03 | fugitivo | tzanger: you don't? :) |
| 15:12.04 | Wonka | tzanger: you're sitting in the middle of all the chairs? |
| 15:12.06 | Chris_DE | yes but why don't i hear a tone? |
| 15:12.08 | tzanger | NormAst: yup that's the eventual plan here... they upped my LDDS circuit cost by $6 so I'm gonna put a tower up |
| 15:12.13 | slePP | i seem to have lost my car keys..... |
| 15:12.16 | tzanger | Wonka: eh? |
| 15:12.29 | slePP | damnit |
| 15:12.34 | NormAst | tzanger: What's the tower law? How high can we go? |
| 15:12.44 | tzanger | NormAst: I *think* 75 feet but I'm not sure |
| 15:12.48 | bhima | I see asteriskathome-0.6.iso and .tar.gz. Is the tar.gz one a tar'ed version of the ISO or something else...? |
| 15:12.55 | tzanger | I have to talk to the town superintendent |
| 15:12.58 | Wonka | tzanger: maybe a german saying... to sit between the chairs is not being able to do the one and also not b eing able to do the other |
| 15:13.00 | Katty | oh, i just beeped. |
| 15:13.13 | tzanger | Wonka: in what context |
| 15:13.16 | tzanger | Katty: well excuse yourself then |
| 15:13.27 | Katty | there is no excuse for me |
| 15:13.29 | tzanger | I was wondering what that scent was |
| 15:13.35 | Katty | exsqueeze me instead. |
| 15:13.36 | Wonka | Katty: "asteriskathome" hilights you? |
| 15:13.38 | *** part/#asterisk rcsu (~su@p213.54.85.214.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 15:13.45 | Wonka | tzanger: 16:11:15 < tzanger> I'm 4km from work, 4km from the CO, 4km from a REALLY hot woman I went to school with |
| 15:13.51 | Katty | Wonka: yes, 'kat' is in it |
| 15:13.53 | tzanger | Wonka: ahhh ok I see :-) |
| 15:13.58 | tzanger | katty |
| 15:13.59 | tzanger | katty |
| 15:14.04 | tzanger | katty |
| 15:14.06 | Katty | beep beep beep beep beep |
| 15:14.06 | fugitivo | Wonka: 4 is your lucky number then |
| 15:14.07 | tzanger | katty |
| 15:14.07 | Katty | etc |
| 15:14.09 | tzanger | katty |
| 15:14.22 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 15:14.24 | tzanger | I suppose |
| 15:14.25 | Katty | mmm, silence |
| 15:14.30 | tzanger | good now we can get a word in edgewise |
| 15:14.38 | Katty | :< |
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| 15:14.53 | Katty | heh, i hadn't said a single thing for over two days |
| 15:14.59 | Katty | and i say one thing ONE THING |
| 15:15.00 | *** part/#asterisk Ridgeback (~Ridgeback@ppp55-193.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net) |
| 15:15.05 | tzanger | www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/me.jpg <-- that is me |
| 15:15.10 | tzanger | Katty: :-) |
| 15:15.16 | Katty | and then you're all omgwtfcan'tgetasingleworldlolz |
| 15:15.20 | tzanger | fugitivo: see you in two weeks |
| 15:15.36 | Katty | that makes me all :<<< inside |
| 15:15.39 | tzanger | wow |
| 15:15.45 | tzanger | I think the egyptians were right |
| 15:15.48 | fugitivo | tzanger: only one week left |
| 15:15.51 | tzanger | the brain is nothing more than an organ to make snot |
| 15:16.13 | Katty | tzanger: glasses++ |
| 15:16.22 | Katty | everyones seen me...so... |
| 15:16.36 | Chris_DE | did anyone use fax over sip yet? |
| 15:16.40 | tzanger | Katty: I'm blind with out them |
| 15:16.48 | fugitivo | Chris_DE: not me, sorry |
| 15:16.52 | Katty | tzanger: :< |
| 15:16.53 | tzanger | www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/1.jpg is the other pic of me online |
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| 15:17.03 | tzanger | my good eye is 20/200 I think |
| 15:17.20 | tzanger | usually the ladies say dimples++ |
| 15:17.23 | Katty | vampire tzanger |
| 15:17.36 | tzanger | no but the lady I'm seeing is from Romania |
| 15:17.44 | Katty | hot |
| 15:17.49 | tzanger | and I had that scar on my neck from before I knew her. :-) |
| 15:18.05 | fugitivo | haha |
| 15:18.05 | Katty | i was refering to your purrty canines |
| 15:18.15 | tzanger | what's wrong with my teeth? |
| 15:18.20 | Katty | nothing |
| 15:18.22 | tzanger | haha |
| 15:18.26 | Katty | note: purrty |
| 15:18.29 | blitzrage | get a room you two |
| 15:18.35 | blitzrage | hehe |
| 15:18.41 | tzanger | blitzrage: she's a vegan, it'd never work out |
| 15:18.54 | blitzrage | tzanger: she don't eat meat, but she sure likes the bone |
| 15:18.57 | Katty | blitzrage: got one |
| 15:19.01 | tzanger | the sex might be phenomenal but then again she's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too young for me :-) |
| 15:19.11 | tzanger | blitzrage: THANKS A LOT, now that song is in my head for hte day |
| 15:19.16 | blitzrage | tzanger: no problem! |
| 15:19.19 | AgiNamu | what's the linux equivalent of dos's fc? |
| 15:19.27 | Jer13261 | cmp |
| 15:19.28 | blitzrage | tzanger: too young for you? probably the right age me for then :D |
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| 15:19.40 | AgiNamu | thanks jer |
| 15:19.52 | Katty | blitzrage: yes, but i'm far too picky |
| 15:19.56 | tzanger | probably... be a man and step up, you'll never know unless you ask. She doesn't seem to be into shy guys :-) |
| 15:20.02 | blitzrage | Katty: me too |
| 15:20.19 | Katty | tzanger: shy guys are ok, but i prefer girls |
| 15:20.23 | blitzrage | tzanger: picking up on IRC seems to just be a bad move all around :) |
| 15:20.28 | tzanger | picky's not a bad thing so long as you're not perpetually lamenting about how lonely they are |
| 15:20.31 | blitzrage | Katty: now you're speaking my language |
| 15:20.35 | Jer13261 | hey i did it 3 yrs ago and i'm STILL married lol |
| 15:20.57 | tzanger | Jer13261: I met my ex on ICQ... it would have worked out but it didn't :-) |
| 15:21.05 | tzanger | we're still good friends though |
| 15:21.14 | p1tst0p | hi, i am using Asteris@Home, i have just added a SIP trunk to sipgate.co.uk, when i dial a number, i get "All Circits are Busy", looking thru the logs, i see, -- Got SIP response 404 "Not Found" back from 217.10.79.219 |
| 15:21.22 | Katty | both of my exs were from teh intraweb |
| 15:21.22 | p1tst0p | -- SIP/ipGate-10df is circuit-busy |
| 15:21.32 | Katty | dun dun dun |
| 15:21.42 | tzanger | the romanian hottie is too |
| 15:21.45 | blitzrage | Katty: you can't use dun dun dun... that's my saying |
| 15:21.54 | Chris_DE | show channels on receiving a fax: SIP/test-bebd (incoming test 2 ) Up RxFAX (Empty) |
| 15:21.58 | Chris_DE | why is it empty |
| 15:21.59 | Katty | blitzrage: oh yeah? |
| 15:22.01 | Katty | blitzrage: MAKE ME |
| 15:22.06 | tzanger | she's in to me bigtime but she's resisting becuase she feels that is what good girls have to do :-) |
| 15:22.14 | blitzrage | Katty: you just wait... |
| 15:22.18 | Katty | blitzrage: k |
| 15:22.24 | Jer13261 | hey is there anyway to turn the volume of a IAX channel from my provider |
| 15:22.30 | tzanger | dun dun dun? |
| 15:22.47 | tzanger | Jer13261: not that I'm aware of... tell them to fix their termination |
| 15:22.57 | tzanger | damn it's cold in here I should get dressed |
| 15:23.02 | Katty | and now i shall go visit the shower |
| 15:23.08 | blitzrage | :-O |
| 15:23.12 | tzanger | running around in my underwear is great when you're testicles aren't ascending |
| 15:23.13 | Katty | tzafrir: :<<< |
| 15:23.22 | Katty | tzafrir: DON"T DO IT< IT"S A TRAP |
| 15:23.22 | p1tst0p | is there a specific Asterisk@Home irc room? ;( i really cant fix this SIP Trunk stuff ! |
| 15:23.35 | tzanger | p1tst0p: not that I'm aware of |
| 15:23.45 | tzanger | I don't think anyone here uses A@H |
| 15:23.49 | tzanger | *@h |
| 15:23.52 | tzanger | or *@~ |
| 15:23.53 | tzanger | heh |
| 15:23.57 | tzanger | *@~ I like that |
| 15:23.58 | Jer13261 | lol |
| 15:23.59 | JerJer[mobile] | p1tst0p: how about learn to use asterisk the right way? |
| 15:24.03 | fugitivo | what is that @home thing? |
| 15:24.04 | tzanger | looks like a snail or something |
| 15:24.07 | Katty | and then it's off to the park for a 3 mile jog |
| 15:24.14 | Katty | jog++ |
| 15:24.15 | blitzrage | Katty: phtttttzzzz |
| 15:24.19 | MikeJ[Jayden] | I know it, but dont use it |
| 15:24.29 | blitzrage | Katty: 3 miles... 6.2! |
| 15:24.30 | tzanger | yeah blitzrage has to run like 10km today |
| 15:24.39 | blitzrage | tzanger: well, I was supposed to, but I'm sick |
| 15:24.40 | Katty | blitzrage: i'd be lifting weights too, by my arms are still hurting from 1 hour of arm curls. |
| 15:24.42 | tzanger | crazy bugger |
| 15:24.57 | tzanger | Katty: an hour of arm curls? I must have to reduce the amount I curl to get an HOUR of it in |
| 15:25.09 | tzanger | I usually do 3 sets of 10 and leave it at that |
| 15:25.14 | MikeJ[Jayden] | katty, that's like 4km to all these canuks here |
| 15:25.17 | fugitivo | asterisk@home is just a web interface? |
| 15:25.22 | tzanger | I bench press the kids then too :-) |
| 15:25.27 | MikeJ[Jayden] | no, it's a full dist. |
| 15:25.34 | Katty | tzanger: i'm not body building |
| 15:25.38 | Katty | tzanger: i just tone |
| 15:25.39 | tzanger | me either |
| 15:25.39 | jakepdev | AMp is a web interface in @@home |
| 15:25.41 | MikeJ[Jayden] | it includes amp, which is the interface |
| 15:25.49 | Katty | excessive muscle looks eww on me |
| 15:25.49 | fugitivo | ahh |
| 15:25.50 | JerJer[mobile] | its a bastardized version of linux+asterisk |
| 15:25.54 | tzanger | the kids are great... better than free-weights becuase they squirm :-) |
| 15:25.55 | Jer13261 | what does AMP do anything worthwhile? |
| 15:26.02 | blitzrage | Katty: so you've have excessive muscle before? |
| 15:26.02 | JerJer[mobile] | nothing |
| 15:26.25 | Katty | blitzrage: uhh, how else would i know how it looks? |
| 15:26.25 | fugitivo | what is wrong with that distribution? |
| 15:26.31 | jakepdev | AMP makes it easier to edit those config files (for one) if you're not used to vi |
| 15:26.33 | blitzrage | Katty: ?? :) |
| 15:26.39 | Katty | blitzrage: you're mad. |
| 15:26.47 | Katty | also, i'm not a piece of meat. |
| 15:26.47 | blitzrage | Katty: that's true.. I talk to tzanger |
| 15:26.54 | blitzrage | Katty: me either |
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| 15:27.03 | Katty | i don't htink you understood |
| 15:27.08 | JerJer[mobile] | anybody want some? |
| 15:27.09 | Katty | if you want something to drool over... |
| 15:27.11 | jakepdev | jer - is greg in on Tuesday? |
| 15:27.16 | Katty | go to the freezer section and find a steak |
| 15:27.21 | tzanger | Jer13261: I have some of that too... it's a buyer's market though :-( |
| 15:27.22 | blitzrage | Katty: mmmm... steak |
| 15:27.27 | tzanger | hahah |
| 15:27.46 | Jer13261 | try autocomplete again tzanger |
| 15:27.58 | tzanger | oh for fuck sakes |
| 15:28.02 | Jer13261 | lol |
| 15:28.09 | Katty | blitzrage must be too young to understand that. |
| 15:28.09 | tzanger | I hereby demand that Jer13261 change his nick |
| 15:28.16 | slePP | mmmmmmmmmm |
| 15:28.18 | slePP | mcd's |
| 15:28.27 | blitzrage | Katty: yah, I'm like 12 |
| 15:28.35 | Katty | blitzrage: k |
| 15:28.36 | tzanger | I have, however, heard that the veggie burger with cheese and dressed like a mac is actually palatable |
| 15:28.37 | slePP | Rej |
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| 15:28.47 | Jer13261 | err no |
| 15:28.48 | Jer13261 | lo |
| 15:28.49 | Jer13261 | l |
| 15:29.07 | fugitivo | "**Asterisk@Home boxes with default passwords have been hacked!!" |
| 15:29.10 | Katty | tzanger: it's just not vegan unless you hold the cheese and the mayo |
| 15:29.27 | jakepdev | fugitivo - so chage the passwod |
| 15:29.31 | fugitivo | lol, that's the problem with userfriendly things |
| 15:29.33 | tzanger | Katty: I know, but I am not vegan |
| 15:29.39 | fugitivo | jakepdev: i don't use that |
| 15:29.39 | Katty | tzanger: k'then |
| 15:29.43 | tzanger | mind you I just eat the damn burgers anyway heh |
| 15:29.45 | fugitivo | jakepdev: just reading the webpage |
| 15:29.58 | Katty | tzanger: k (= |
| 15:30.08 | tzanger | have fun with that |
| 15:30.18 | blitzrage | tzanger: I'll probably end up eating icecream and pudding... |
| 15:30.26 | NormAst | Hay only got one complaint about using IBLC.... Can't send a fax. |
| 15:30.31 | NormAst | :) |
| 15:30.31 | tzanger | mind you I think blitzrage is enjoying the suppositories... he can talk and eat at the same time |
| 15:30.47 | Katty | k, so shower and then jog, and then i'm going to come home and write up a pretty little page in python that will spit out all combinations in my database that are 10-16g protein, 45-55g carbs, and <%30 fat. |
| 15:30.58 | jakepdev | *@home should work just fine |
| 15:31.03 | tzanger | Katty: cool, I dind't know you were an SQLite |
| 15:31.06 | tzanger | er |
| 15:31.09 | tzanger | SQL-ite, not SQLite |
| 15:31.18 | tzanger | just please don't tell me you use that abomination that is MySQL |
| 15:31.22 | tzanger | you're way too smart for that |
| 15:31.39 | Katty | tzanger: there are a greatmany things you don't know about me (= |
| 15:31.49 | tzanger | well yes I knew that |
| 15:31.51 | tzanger | heh |
| 15:32.44 | slePP | admit you like it |
| 15:32.52 | slePP | then you'll feel better about yourself |
| 15:32.54 | tzanger | ewwwwwwww |
| 15:32.55 | tzanger | ew ew ew ew ew |
| 15:33.00 | tzanger | GET IT OFF GET IT OFFFFFFFFFFFFFF |
| 15:33.32 | Katty | tzanger: pull yourself together soldier. |
| 15:33.50 | tzanger | I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person |
| 15:33.53 | mikegrb | tzanger: I agree, Jer13261 should change his nick |
| 15:34.32 | Katty | omgwtfphplolz |
| 15:34.34 | tzanger | slePP: HAHAHAH |
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| 15:34.46 | slePP | the reality being i do run mysql, i just don't like to admit it to customers so that with luck they'll use PEAR or postgres |
| 15:34.54 | slePP | and it works, usually.. i only have 4 mysql db's |
| 15:34.54 | tzanger | *nods* |
| 15:35.08 | Katty | PHEAR teh POSTGRES OF DOOM |
| 15:35.15 | slePP | 6g in postgres, 120megs in mysql :> |
| 15:35.16 | Katty | which is also dreamy. |
| 15:35.17 | tzanger | I do have a mysql data base for mythtv... and it's more convoluted and harder to run than postgres... and I have some big postgres databaseds |
| 15:35.27 | Katty | slePP: hot |
| 15:35.29 | tzanger | slePP: awesome |
| 15:35.36 | slePP | www4.ca.postgresql.org |
| 15:35.38 | tzanger | actually let me see what that one db is up to |
| 15:35.50 | slePP | tzanger: i've been looking at myth and debating postgres changes |
| 15:35.55 | lkthomas | 6G on psql ? |
| 15:35.58 | Katty | gosh, irc sure is distracting. |
| 15:35.58 | slePP | lkthomas: yeh |
| 15:35.59 | lkthomas | how is it possible ? |
| 15:36.04 | slePP | how is it possible? |
| 15:36.08 | slePP | i have 6 gigs of stuff in there |
| 15:36.08 | lkthomas | you mean the db size ? |
| 15:36.10 | slePP | in about 300 databases |
| 15:36.24 | tzanger | 18G |
| 15:36.26 | tzanger | that's not that big |
| 15:36.26 | slePP | what would be impossible about 6g anyway? |
| 15:36.29 | tzanger | someone must have erased a lot |
| 15:36.33 | tzanger | it was up at 42G for a while |
| 15:36.35 | lkthomas | and same db on mysql only takes 120M in mysql ? |
| 15:36.36 | slePP | no, but 6g vs. 120meg is :> |
| 15:36.46 | slePP | no.. these are different db's entirely |
| 15:36.46 | lkthomas | ahha |
| 15:36.47 | lkthomas | hmm |
| 15:36.50 | slePP | just comparing how many users i've got on each side |
| 15:36.52 | lkthomas | misunderstanding |
| 15:36.56 | tzanger | slePP: were you involved in the great "Best DB" thread? |
| 15:37.05 | slePP | tzanger: i am involved in no threads. |
| 15:37.10 | lkthomas | slePP: for speed, which db is faster ? |
| 15:37.11 | slePP | for the sake of my own, and others, sanity |
| 15:37.21 | tzanger | slePP: too bad, there was an Italian in there I think I managed to make look foolish |
| 15:37.21 | slePP | lkthomas: depends on what you want to do and how many concurrent users you're going to be doing it with |
| 15:37.33 | slePP | tzanger: nice! make fun of the foreigners! |
| 15:37.37 | lkthomas | slePP: of course as much as possible |
| 15:37.50 | tzanger | slePP: well it had nothing to do with his foreignness, just his extreme fanboyism to MySQL |
| 15:37.51 | lkthomas | LDAP VS MYSQL VS POSTSQL, which one run faster ? |
| 15:37.55 | slePP | lkthomas: that sort of use statement will never fly in a planning department, and if it does, get a new DBA |
| 15:38.02 | tzanger | lkthomas: generally speaking, postgres |
| 15:38.09 | tzanger | lkthomas: if you're doing just quick and dirty shit, mysql |
| 15:38.09 | lkthomas | hmm |
| 15:38.14 | tzanger | lkthomas: ldap is totally different |
| 15:38.15 | slePP | tzafrir: still a foreigner. it's like the quebecor's :> |
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| 15:38.20 | tzanger | slePP: hehehe |
| 15:38.30 | lkthomas | tzafrir: you could use ldap to store data for sure |
| 15:38.32 | slePP | ldap has a very useful purpose, and can easily outperform postgres or mysql |
| 15:38.38 | slePP | but only on reads and certain types thereof |
| 15:38.43 | tzanger | yes I really like ldap but it's not designed for a lot of input |
| 15:38.45 | slePP | mysql is a fast inserter/selecter, but it does not scale well |
| 15:38.46 | tzanger | lots of output though |
| 15:39.02 | tzanger | slePP: not only that, but it takes artistic license with your data |
| 15:39.05 | lkthomas | hmm |
| 15:39.08 | slePP | postgres is slower on inserts sometimes sometimes faster, and it is better with large records than smaller records. it is also very fast for query optimization, and it scales much better than mysql |
| 15:39.22 | slePP | tzanger: who cares if what you put in isn't what you get out ;> |
| 15:39.29 | tzanger | slePP: :-) |
| 15:39.29 | lkthomas | slePP: but don't know why php programmer love mysql |
| 15:39.42 | tzanger | lkthomas: because it's quick and dirty, just like PHP |
| 15:39.43 | slePP | lkthomas: simple. |
| 15:39.49 | slePP | PHP compiled with MySQL support out of th ebox |
| 15:39.50 | tzanger | I used to like php but I dispise it now |
| 15:39.51 | slePP | not with Postgres |
| 15:39.53 | lkthomas | as because most of php program only support mysql, and I only know mysql now |
| 15:40.03 | lkthomas | hmmm, slePP |
| 15:40.05 | JerJer[mobile] | grr memoserv needs to die |
| 15:40.07 | slePP | you'll find something interesting in the coming months/year |
| 15:40.14 | lkthomas | slePP: how ? |
| 15:40.16 | slePP | sqlite is now default and builting to PHP5 |
| 15:40.22 | slePP | so, expect to see tons of people using that |
| 15:40.23 | tzanger | slePP: that is VERY good |
| 15:40.26 | lkthomas | sqlite = postsql ? |
| 15:40.26 | tzanger | I like sqlite a lot |
| 15:40.28 | slePP | just because 'it's there' |
| 15:40.35 | slePP | tzanger: i fucking love sqlite.. but that's not hte point ;> |
| 15:40.36 | tzanger | I wish it had a network layer, even just a basic rudimentary one |
| 15:40.41 | slePP | lkthomas: sqlite is an embeddable sql engine |
| 15:40.45 | lkthomas | ahha |
| 15:40.46 | slePP | tzafrir: why? what for? |
| 15:40.54 | lkthomas | you could adapt any sql DB into php program ? |
| 15:40.56 | tzanger | slePP: and it's TINY and it's PORTABLE and it is mostly SQL compliant too |
| 15:40.58 | slePP | tzafrir must change nicks too |
| 15:41.04 | slePP | lkthomas: yes |
| 15:41.25 | lkthomas | slePP: do I need to modify the exists sql code ? |
| 15:41.27 | tzanger | slePP: because ther eare many times I'd like to pull some data out remotely and I am just too lazy to write a damn XMLRPC or SOAP server to do it |
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| 15:41.30 | slePP | tzanger: yeh, it's very compliant. and in sqlite3, has strict types! not just all pure 'whatever you happen to put in..' like inserting text into integer fields. like in 2 :> |
| 15:41.37 | tzanger | slePP: :-) |
| 15:41.42 | slePP | lkthomas: depends on if you used ugly MySQL hacks or not |
| 15:41.46 | slePP | MySQL has a lot of non-standard ugliness |
| 15:41.57 | tzanger | I like tzafrir's nick, he gets the LARTings |
| 15:41.58 | Nugget | mysql is horrid. I am in favor of anything that helps people move to a better platform. |
| 15:42.10 | tzanger | a LOT of them |
| 15:42.13 | slePP | tzanger: why not write an sqlite network core. it would be dirt simple |
| 15:42.19 | tzafrir | ~lart tzanger |
| 15:42.21 | tzanger | slePP: well I'm not aprogrammer :-) |
| 15:42.27 | slePP | tzanger: you're not? .. |
| 15:42.30 | tzanger | oh wait no tzafrir |
| 15:42.30 | slePP | we must cease communications now. |
| 15:42.31 | JerJer[mobile] | nobody phreak out - we are going to very slowly implement the new version of our operation here. This means no new signups until we complete the process (which could be quite a few days) |
| 15:42.32 | tzanger | heh |
| 15:42.43 | slePP | OMG JERJER NO! |
| 15:42.49 | tzanger | JerJer[mobile]: do yourself a BIG favour and put that on your website |
| 15:42.49 | JerJer[mobile] | fuckem |
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| 15:42.56 | slePP | yes.. that's a good plan |
| 15:43.02 | Blackvel | who knows AGI/FastAGI? how can I interconnect one inbound caller with a person I have called? (like transfer/3way call) |
| 15:43.05 | slePP | make it blink in red, too |
| 15:43.10 | JerJer[mobile] | tzanger: we are - but it is going to default to the let me in link |
| 15:43.15 | tzanger | YES THE WORLD NEEDS MORE <BLINK> TAGS |
| 15:43.37 | slePP | i think the 'enter here' link on pastebin needs to be blink... but that's another whine session altogether |
| 15:43.38 | Nugget | giant, red, blinking, with an embedded midi song playing the darth vader death march song. |
| 15:43.45 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 15:43.51 | slePP | tzanger: do you want to use the sqlite API unmodified to do your network requests? |
| 15:44.01 | slePP | or would you be comfortable with a library that was sqlitenet_xxxx() instead? |
| 15:44.10 | bhima | There's got to be a way to combine surplus russian ICBMs, geographic traceroute tools, and <blink>-searching web spiders... |
| 15:44.24 | Nugget | bhima: dns loc! |
| 15:44.26 | tzanger | slePP: that's not necessary... a simple library would be fine... sqlite for almost all installations now doe snot need or want networking so no need to pollute it |
| 15:44.46 | slePP | tzanger: just thinking client lib side.. since sqlite is the lib :> |
| 15:44.48 | tzanger | if I need it to be transparent I can wrap it myself |
| 15:44.55 | Chris_DE | ok, found something out: If I just answer an incoming call (sip) with exten,1,RxFax - then you don't hear audio on the calling fax machine. If I first answer the line and playback something and do then exten,3,RxFax it works. So any idea what might be broken? |
| 15:45.00 | slePP | so a little networking interface. that can be done.... |
| 15:45.05 | tzanger | slePP: actually you make a great point |
| 15:45.14 | tzanger | link against sqlite_net and it's over a network |
| 15:45.20 | tzanger | link against sqlite itself and it's local |
| 15:45.20 | slePP | hmm |
| 15:45.22 | tzanger | VERY good idea |
| 15:45.24 | slePP | so it's an either or.. yeh |
| 15:45.37 | slePP | but then you can't do local accesses? |
| 15:45.40 | tzanger | slePP: and it's even cooler because you can use LD_PRELOAD hacks to switch between in a pinch |
| 15:46.00 | slePP | well, it would make sense to just have sqlite_open() handle URIs |
| 15:46.03 | tzanger | slePP: seems like a perfectly fine limitation to me... it doesn't pollute the main lib either |
| 15:46.10 | slePP | then you can do local or remote, so you can use the same app without hurting anything |
| 15:46.11 | tzanger | hmm this is true too |
| 15:46.14 | tzanger | everything's an fd inside |
| 15:46.22 | slePP | well you get the opaque struct, yeh |
| 15:47.00 | tzanger | asterisk with sqlite is a great combo IMO... no more config files |
| 15:47.04 | slePP | tzanger: e-mail slepp@netmonks.ca with a wishlist, and i'll make it go :> |
| 15:47.22 | tzanger | and with the ability to update the config remotely (add peers, edit diaplan, etc.) it would be good |
| 15:47.28 | slePP | (we embed sqlite onto ipaq's for remote gps-enabled tracking apps, so i've done lots of sqlite hacks already) |
| 15:47.33 | tzanger | mysql/postgres/odbc... it's all too heavy for asterisk |
| 15:47.57 | tzanger | and text files are nice but a pain... regenerate all the ocnfigs ... just have asterisk read them out of sqlite |
| 15:48.07 | tzanger | I'm not asking for realtime update... that's a lot of overhead |
| 15:48.11 | tzanger | unless it's properly cached |
| 15:48.20 | tzanger | but just having it in one db I can plug in... now that is hot |
| 15:48.28 | tzanger | slePP: wow |
| 15:48.35 | slePP | i believe sqlite's db's can be small enough they'd all fit into ram cache, and can operate very quickly as compared to a linked list |
| 15:48.52 | tzanger | slePP: hmm |
| 15:48.55 | slePP | since asterisk already uses the big astdb thing |
| 15:48.58 | slePP | (gdbm?) |
| 15:49.04 | tzanger | yes gdbm I think |
| 15:49.05 | slePP | which has all sorts of stuff in it, including dundi state |
| 15:49.20 | slePP | i think there are benchmarks about gdbm/bdb vs. sqlite |
| 15:49.28 | slePP | different beasts, but similar ideas |
| 15:50.01 | tzanger | yes |
| 15:50.13 | tzanger | I like the idea of having the SQL queries in *, perhaps even in a separate config file |
| 15:50.22 | jakepdev | do any of you use the record step in *? How do you get rid of that DTMF at the end of the recording? |
| 15:50.30 | slePP | i wonder if app_realtime can use sqlite... i imagine it can |
| 15:50.31 | tzanger | easy to change and make it do crazy things |
| 15:51.08 | slePP | i need someone who can translate pastebin to french for me |
| 15:51.09 | tzanger | who do I petitition to get the uniqueids into the CDRs by default? |
| 15:51.11 | slePP | google did an awful job |
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| 15:51.18 | slePP | uniqueid's aren't in the CDRs? |
| 15:51.20 | slePP | mine are... |
| 15:51.29 | tzanger | slePP: you ahve to change a file and recompile |
| 15:51.40 | tzanger | cvs co asterisk && make will not have it |
| 15:51.47 | slePP | mine did.. on postgres & odbc |
| 15:51.51 | tzanger | ahh |
| 15:51.56 | tzanger | see that is not cvs co && make |
| 15:51.59 | tzanger | you are using odbc |
| 15:52.04 | slePP | er, yes it is :P |
| 15:52.07 | slePP | i used to just use postgres. same thing |
| 15:52.20 | slePP | cdr_pgsql |
| 15:52.22 | slePP | and now cdr_odbc |
| 15:52.29 | tzanger | ahh |
| 15:52.32 | tzanger | see I haven't used those |
| 15:52.35 | tzanger | cdr_sqlite |
| 15:52.39 | slePP | ah, never used that one |
| 15:52.39 | tzanger | that's what I should be using |
| 15:52.44 | slePP | we need networking on our cdr's :> |
| 15:52.46 | tzanger | I'm using the basic CSV one |
| 15:52.49 | slePP | (hence your idea, i suppose) |
| 15:53.10 | tzanger | nah this just cam eup now :-) |
| 15:53.22 | tzanger | hahah my daughter's upstairs singing "happy birthday to her" to one of her dolls |
| 15:53.34 | tzanger | anyway time for the shower |
| 15:53.36 | tzanger | ttyl |
| 15:53.37 | slePP | enjoy |
| 15:53.41 | tzanger | I will |
| 15:53.47 | tzanger | good hot shower maybe it'll help unking my back |
| 15:53.54 | tzanger | er unkink |
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| 15:54.16 | slePP | kinky |
| 15:56.17 | sneak | can zaprtc be compiled in instead of being loaded as a module? |
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| 16:03.41 | marshall | Is there any other setting that may be effecting the TXgain at -30.0 it still peaks at the max |
| 16:03.45 | marshall | using a polycom 500 |
| 16:04.03 | Druken | slePP: where's my mcd's damnit! |
| 16:04.12 | slePP | i ate it all! |
| 16:04.55 | Druken | damn you... eating my mcd's |
| 16:05.19 | slePP | you were gone, too bad for you |
| 16:05.30 | Druken | i was busy watching tv... |
| 16:05.39 | Druken | my laptop does not have a tv card... |
| 16:05.52 | slePP | then get one for it |
| 16:05.54 | slePP | USB thingy |
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| 16:06.25 | Druken | pfft |
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| 16:21.01 | brc_ | hahaha |
| 16:21.04 | AgiNamu | any recommendations on a reassembler for linux? |
| 16:21.07 | brc_ | asterisk is getting slashdotted every other week |
| 16:21.10 | brc_ | hi slePP |
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| 16:36.09 | tzanger | reassembler? |
| 16:36.27 | tzanger | I've done reverse engineering for over a decade and I've never come across "reassembler" before |
| 16:36.36 | tzanger | disassembler, assembler decompiler, compiler sure... |
| 16:36.38 | tzanger | reassembler? |
| 16:37.03 | mogorman | umm wouldnt that just be a compiler |
| 16:37.26 | mikegrb | glue |
| 16:38.01 | mogorman | man we are on slashdot all the fricken time now... |
| 16:38.08 | mogorman | and all pretty much same article |
| 16:38.17 | mogorman | install asterisk for the first time |
| 16:38.21 | mogorman | hurray! |
| 16:38.37 | tzanger | mogorman: congrats :-) |
| 16:39.00 | tzanger | mikegrb: unfortunately critical parts of my anatomy are made of the ultimate solvent |
| 16:39.17 | mikegrb | liar |
| 16:39.28 | tzanger | it's impossible to find a pair of pants that fit |
| 16:39.30 | mogorman | congrats? |
| 16:39.39 | tzanger | mogorman: oops |
| 16:39.48 | tzanger | I misread..I thought you said YOU installed asterisk for the first time |
| 16:39.58 | mogorman | lol |
| 16:40.11 | mogorman | i have installed asterisk more times for more people than i care to think about |
| 16:40.15 | tzanger | I had a bit of a strange feeling becuase you didn't "feel" like a newbie |
| 16:40.18 | file[laptop] | mogorman: which Matt are you? |
| 16:40.21 | mogorman | a minimum of 1200 |
| 16:40.26 | mogorman | matt o |
| 16:40.33 | tzanger | minimum of 1200 what |
| 16:40.33 | mogorman | as in mogorman |
| 16:40.36 | mogorman | installs |
| 16:40.37 | file[laptop] | too many Matts... |
| 16:40.41 | tzanger | 1200 installs, wowza |
| 16:40.50 | file[laptop] | I miss mattf :( |
| 16:40.54 | mogorman | i could also be know as fat matt |
| 16:41.01 | mogorman | why you miss mattf |
| 16:41.03 | mogorman | he is around |
| 16:41.05 | mikegrb | you so could |
| 16:41.14 | file[laptop] | because he doesn't come on IRC often enough |
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| 16:41.15 | mogorman | well all the other matts are twigs |
| 16:41.19 | mogorman | im easily 2 matts |
| 16:41.21 | tzanger | what kind of install do you do that you need 1200 of 'em |
| 16:41.21 | mogorman | in one |
| 16:41.29 | mogorman | tech support |
| 16:41.35 | mogorman | in 6 months |
| 16:41.40 | mogorman | i have closed ovre 1200 tickets |
| 16:41.46 | mogorman | not to mention phone calls |
| 16:41.57 | mogorman | so i guestimate it at 1200+ |
| 16:41.59 | mogorman | or so |
| 16:42.02 | tzanger | mogorman: ahhhhhhhh |
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| 16:46.17 | NosDe | hi |
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| 16:46.51 | NosDe | how can i tranfer a call to an other extension (internal) ? |
| 16:46.59 | mogorman | # or flash |
| 16:47.08 | file[laptop] | or transfer button |
| 16:47.11 | NosDe | #(number) ? |
| 16:47.15 | mogorman | right |
| 16:47.32 | mogorman | depending on type of channel |
| 16:47.32 | NosDe | thanks - will try this out :) |
| 16:47.33 | file[laptop] | that'll only work if you have the correct t or T flag passed to your Dial line |
| 16:47.43 | NosDe | i have tT |
| 16:47.46 | mogorman | yeah |
| 16:48.04 | mogorman | and flash only works if you have stuff in zapata |
| 16:48.16 | mogorman | where you going file>? |
| 16:49.41 | NosDe | it says wrong number try again :( |
| 16:49.57 | mogorman | ? |
| 16:50.04 | mogorman | go on |
| 16:51.05 | NosDe | i have 000 as dialprefix for internal and my extension afre 100 and 200 . no i call from outside (capi) my extension 200 - pick up the phone und press # and 000100 ?! |
| 16:51.19 | mogorman | what |
| 16:51.26 | mogorman | that does not make a good bit of since |
| 16:51.59 | NosDe | what do you prefer ? |
| 16:52.10 | smcavoy | hello, I have nortel phone system currently and am looking at installing asterisk as a voip gateway at first and then look at possibly migrating to asterisk entirely. Where can I find guides and information like that? |
| 16:52.18 | mogorman | well |
| 16:52.25 | mogorman | it depends what you want to do |
| 16:52.28 | mogorman | best way to do it |
| 16:52.41 | tzanger | smcavoy: I've done exactly that |
| 16:52.44 | tzanger | and a few others have too |
| 16:52.45 | mogorman | is to have a t1 into your nortel |
| 16:52.49 | mogorman | and piggy back |
| 16:52.53 | mogorman | and slowly convert |
| 16:52.54 | mogorman | i think |
| 16:53.06 | mogorman | not many people are ready to dive into asterisk |
| 16:53.10 | mogorman | i think |
| 16:53.11 | nvrs | Right now I dont have an FXS card in my server so I just want to forward incoming calls to my land line. would I use a Goto or dial to achieve that sort of forward? |
| 16:53.21 | tzanger | norstar phones are hard to lose... they're very good |
| 16:53.30 | mogorman | yeah |
| 16:53.36 | Essobi | What are SIP channels names built from? anyone got an idea? |
| 16:53.41 | mogorman | i would love to make a channel_nortel |
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| 16:53.47 | tzanger | mogorman: well |
| 16:53.51 | mogorman | but dont have a system |
| 16:53.58 | tzanger | mogorman: nortel sets are just ISDN BRI terminals |
| 16:53.59 | mogorman | does nortel have any published specs |
| 16:54.04 | mogorman | really |
| 16:54.12 | mogorman | i thought most were just analog |
| 16:54.14 | smcavoy | tzanger: hmm.. I've not experienced many others. it would be some much easier to have a real interface on it (i,e. not one of the horrid phones we currently have) |
| 16:54.14 | tzanger | mogorman: no, but it's ISDN BRI and some weirdass protocol called FUMP |
| 16:54.16 | mogorman | that cheate=d |
| 16:54.28 | tzanger | smcavoy: odd |
| 16:55.10 | mogorman | i thought it was like adsi |
| 16:55.16 | tzanger | mogorman: nope not at all |
| 16:55.23 | smcavoy | tzanger: so are you now completely asterisk? |
| 16:55.32 | tzanger | they're ISDN sets, I didn't know that before either. And the cable that runs between chassis is E1 |
| 16:55.37 | tzanger | smcavoy: no hell no |
| 16:55.49 | tzanger | smcavoy: every call that enters or leaves our Norstar MICS is done THROUGH asterisk though |
| 16:56.01 | tzanger | PRI - Asterisk - Norstar |
| 16:56.01 | mogorman | how do people connect fxos to them if they are bri then |
| 16:56.10 | tzanger | mogorman: it's called an ATA |
| 16:56.15 | mogorman | i have seen people get everything working sans hardware |
| 16:56.21 | mogorman | i mean hangup |
| 16:56.25 | smcavoy | tzanger: so what functionality do you still use the nortel system for? |
| 16:57.19 | mogorman | most people just run extensions through nortel |
| 16:57.22 | tzanger | voicemail, but that's going away soon |
| 16:57.27 | tzanger | but that's it |
| 16:57.27 | mogorman | till they are ready to do full replace |
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| 16:57.33 | tzanger | call call routing is done on asterisk |
| 16:57.35 | mogorman | you dont like ast_voicemail |
| 16:57.43 | mogorman | i mean extensions like phones |
| 16:58.02 | tzanger | mogorman: oh I like it plenty, I just don't want to get the FXO ports to do the signaling to light up Norstar MWI |
| 16:58.16 | mogorman | ahh |
| 16:58.29 | fugitivo | mmm |
| 16:58.50 | smcavoy | I'm not very familiar with telephony hardware so, the nortel phones we currently have will work with asterisk? what is the protocol they support that allows this? |
| 16:58.55 | guugmember | hello guys, who has installed asterisk working with a ltsp environment? |
| 16:59.07 | mogorman | well if you use a t1 |
| 16:59.11 | tzanger | smcavoy: you have two choices |
| 16:59.12 | mogorman | you wont have problems |
| 16:59.16 | tzanger | ATAs and FXO ports in * |
| 16:59.20 | fugitivo | i have problems with sound and openbsd |
| 16:59.24 | tzanger | or CAS T1 or PRI |
| 16:59.26 | mogorman | pri |
| 16:59.29 | mogorman | is way to go |
| 16:59.29 | tzanger | I run PRI between * and Nor* |
| 16:59.36 | mogorman | pri is best way to go always... |
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| 16:59.36 | tzanger | but |
| 16:59.47 | tzanger | you need a DTI + timing card + PRI enabler code |
| 16:59.52 | tzanger | translation: about $2000 |
| 16:59.55 | fugitivo | i call the demo, and i don't hear anything, only a voice after a while, but the voice was cut |
| 17:00.00 | mogorman | yuck... |
| 17:00.21 | tzanger | without the PRI enabler it's down to about $1400 |
| 17:00.28 | tzanger | but it's CAS T1 only |
| 17:00.34 | vpaskov | how can I made TRANSFER CALL on Siemens HiPath 5100? |
| 17:00.44 | tzanger | an ATA2 is what, $80 a port |
| 17:00.55 | guugmember | would ltsp be able to live with asterisk in the same network? |
| 17:00.57 | tzanger | er sorry an ATA gives you extensions |
| 17:01.15 | tzanger | you need analog trunk card(s) and FXS ports in * if you want * to provide LINES for norstar |
| 17:01.19 | tzanger | did that for a while |
| 17:01.20 | tzanger | it works reasonably well too |
| 17:01.24 | tzanger | and it's far cheaper |
| 17:04.58 | vpaskov | how can I made TRANSFER CALL on Siemens HiPath 5100? |
| 17:05.01 | smcavoy | any documents explaining PRI? |
| 17:05.11 | tzanger | smcavoy: PRI is a big big big field |
| 17:05.16 | tzanger | how abot you narrow it down |
| 17:06.08 | smcavoy | err... as it's related to asterisk? I'm reading docs on asteriskdocs.org about fxo,fxs,iax, and sip |
| 17:06.27 | fugitivo | DTMF problems with kphone |
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| 17:07.43 | tzanger | smcavoy: not sure what you're looking for. PRI and asterisk is very very very simple. |
| 17:07.56 | tzanger | T1/E1 card, get the provisioning information and you're off ot the races |
| 17:08.31 | guugmember | what do you think about integrating ltsp and asterisk in the same environment? |
| 17:09.02 | tzanger | guugmember: so long as your network either has QoS (switches, etc.) or you have an underutilized netowrk, it'll work just fine |
| 17:09.59 | guugmember | tzanger, its for a call center, just web browsing and some chat, plus the voice |
| 17:10.23 | tzanger | guugmember: as I said, if your netowrk supports QoS or it's underutilized such that the VOIP traffic won't get crippled, it'll be just fine |
| 17:10.46 | guugmember | tzanger, the point is HOW to create ctis and manage calls in ltsp |
| 17:11.04 | fugitivo | well, DTMF doesn't work with kphone and asterisk |
| 17:11.09 | tzanger | guugmember: it's *no* different than without LTSP |
| 17:11.11 | guugmember | tzanger, maybe some MONO would have to play in that environment |
| 17:11.21 | tzanger | wtf does mono have to do with it |
| 17:11.36 | guugmember | tzanger, screen pop-up |
| 17:11.57 | guugmember | tzanger, sniffing asterisk 5083 port to detect a call to my extension |
| 17:12.04 | tzanger | put a copy of kphone or gnophone or iaxclient in the LTSP environment. Have each user's config include the appropriate config. What's the problem |
| 17:12.34 | guugmember | tzanger, no problem, just visualizing the environment |
| 17:12.42 | fugitivo | tzanger: he should use nas or esd for sound |
| 17:12.51 | tzanger | ... why?? |
| 17:12.59 | tzanger | jesus why do people insist on making this sooooooooooooo convoluted |
| 17:13.57 | fugitivo | tzanger: if he's going to use the soundcard at the terminal, he needs a sound daemon |
| 17:14.01 | guugmember | tzanger, so, from your point of vies, asterisk+ltsp is not only viable but also a good choice for easy to manage and inexpensive call centers? |
| 17:14.03 | smcavoy | yup |
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| 17:14.13 | guugmember | s/vies/view |
| 17:14.15 | mogorman | we should take out sound stuff from asterisk |
| 17:14.17 | tzanger | fugitivo: no he doesn't |
| 17:14.18 | mogorman | is all just for fun |
| 17:14.25 | mogorman | and causes such confusion |
| 17:14.26 | tzanger | guugmember: hell yeah |
| 17:14.35 | tzanger | fugitivo: why's he need a sound daemon? |
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| 17:15.06 | guugmember | tzanger, have you ever seen that environment running? |
| 17:15.10 | tzanger | guugmember: yes |
| 17:15.11 | fugitivo | tzanger: because the sound is generated on the server, and needs to be transfered to the terminal through the network, we're talking about ltsp right? |
| 17:15.12 | tzanger | I designed one |
| 17:15.17 | tzanger | fugitivo: ?? |
| 17:15.25 | tzanger | fugitivo: you're on crack. The sound is generated on each and every terminal |
| 17:15.45 | smcavoy | tzanger: not if he's runninig ltsp |
| 17:15.48 | fugitivo | tzanger: do you run the application on the server or the terminal? |
| 17:15.53 | tzanger | smcavoy: yes if he's runnign LTSP |
| 17:15.59 | tzanger | the ONLY thing LTSP is is an application server |
| 17:16.10 | tzanger | all the stuff runs on the local sound card and CPU |
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| 17:16.14 | guugmember | tzanger, have you designed one? excelente, how much do you charge for technical assistance to implement one in central america, remotelly of course |
| 17:16.16 | smcavoy | tzanger: it's a terminal server. no |
| 17:16.22 | fugitivo | tzanger: no, you are wrong |
| 17:16.32 | tzanger | guugmember: email me akohlsmith@mixdown.ca we'll figure something out |
| 17:16.36 | mogorman | this guy |
| 17:16.37 | fugitivo | tzanger: if you run the application LOCALLY, then the sound is generated on the terminal |
| 17:16.38 | mogorman | right here |
| 17:16.44 | Katty | moo |
| 17:16.45 | mogorman | I DIDNT KNOW ANY C... |
| 17:16.56 | tzanger | smcavoy: depends on how you're running it I suppose -- P2/233 systems are *DIRT CHEAP* these days, why would you run it on a central box instead of just netbooting and running root over NFS? |
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| 17:17.05 | smcavoy | tzanger: the only thing run on the client side is an X server. everything is run on the server, therefore it needs to use a audio daemon on the client and server to get audio in and out |
| 17:17.06 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 17:17.07 | bkw_ | haha |
| 17:17.13 | guugmember | tzanger, ok, cool, any idea per hour or support? |
| 17:17.20 | fugitivo | tzanger: if you run the application on the server, then the sound is generated on the server, and the sound uses the sound daemon to travel through network |
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| 17:17.39 | Katty | hi bkw_ (= |
| 17:17.55 | tzanger | smcavoy: listen I designed a 30-station LTSP environment. I know what I'm talking about here. There are several ways to do it and for this (and practially anything) there is NO reason to run everything on the server |
| 17:18.07 | Katty | bkw_: still no more info about chicago thing? |
| 17:18.28 | fugitivo | tzanger: if kphone runs on the server, you need a sound daemon, if kphone runs on the terminal, you are right |
| 17:18.30 | tzanger | P2/233 with 128M of memory will run a cut-down DE with iaxclient or something, running root over NFS. fully centrally managed and cheap cehap cehap |
| 17:18.38 | tzanger | cehap? hah cheap |
| 17:18.45 | fugitivo | tzanger: but if the application runs on server side, the sound is generated there, and you need the sound daemon |
| 17:18.53 | tzanger | fugitivo: yes, but I'd never design a system like that |
| 17:18.59 | tzanger | faaaaaaaaaar too much additional worry |
| 17:19.07 | fugitivo | tzanger: i did a system like that, 50 terminals |
| 17:19.09 | tzanger | guugmember: let's see how complex it gets. |
| 17:19.12 | fugitivo | tzanger: works great |
| 17:19.20 | guugmember | tzanger, ok |
| 17:19.23 | tzanger | fugitivo: what was the advantage to not utilizing the desktop systems? |
| 17:19.35 | fugitivo | tzanger: you mean running local applications? |
| 17:19.46 | tzanger | fugitivo: yes |
| 17:19.54 | Katty | bkw_: :< |
| 17:19.55 | fugitivo | tzanger: if you run local applications, you need more power on the terminals |
| 17:20.10 | fugitivo | tzanger: and, you need binaries for the terminals |
| 17:20.25 | tzanger | fugitivo: as I said, a cut down DE (sawfish?) will run firefox and iaxclient happily |
| 17:20.34 | tzanger | fugitivo: of course you do but that's hardly a problem |
| 17:20.35 | fugitivo | tzanger: in this case, i was using opteron processors, 64bit, and the terminals were 32bit, almost no ram |
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| 17:21.00 | tzanger | fugitivo: yeah see I figure RAM is dirt cheap and you have distributed processing now so you don't need a hellacious server |
| 17:21.16 | tzanger | but yeah a mix between the two usually works out best |
| 17:21.29 | tzanger | run the badass apps on the server and run anything that makes sense to run locally on the individual stations |
| 17:21.32 | fugitivo | tzanger: mm, but the idea was having a nice desktop, openoffice, mozilla, and everything a person needs |
| 17:22.00 | fugitivo | tzanger: if i run that on the terminal, i need more power on the terminals |
| 17:22.02 | tzanger | and to me, a softphone is a perfect application ofr a P2/233 doing nothing else but running a nice'd X :-) |
| 17:22.11 | fugitivo | tzanger: I agree :) |
| 17:22.16 | tzanger | yes you run OO and that stuff on the server, absolutely |
| 17:22.37 | tzanger | and you build your own version of it fully cracked-out ot take advantage of the processor and tweak the shit out of it so it uses as much memory as you can throw at it |
| 17:23.26 | NormAst | Any one know of a good C code formatter? |
| 17:23.33 | tzanger | C code *formatter* ?? |
| 17:23.45 | mogorman | indent |
| 17:23.52 | fugitivo | tzanger: what hardware did you use for the server and terminals? |
| 17:23.58 | NormAst | indent? Okay... |
| 17:24.15 | mogorman | is name of program |
| 17:24.29 | tzanger | fugitivo: it's been a while... I think the server was a single Xeon, but I think they may have upgraded it to a dual by now |
| 17:24.29 | mogorman | you mean like line format right? |
| 17:24.35 | NormAst | yea.. |
| 17:24.41 | mogorman | yeah |
| 17:24.47 | mogorman | its called ident |
| 17:24.51 | NormAst | Indent looks like what I want. Just getting sloppy. |
| 17:24.52 | mogorman | it will fix your code |
| 17:25.09 | mogorman | i use it to turn code into asterisk |
| 17:25.18 | guugmember | tzanger, i sent you the emial, keep in touche, have a nice day and thanks for your time |
| 17:25.21 | tzanger | fugitivo: all the individual clients were P2/233s (Dell systems) |
| 17:25.28 | guugmember | s/emial/email |
| 17:25.31 | tzanger | guugmember: no worries this is pretty easy to set up unless you have some weirdness |
| 17:25.35 | fugitivo | tzanger: and you run the softphone on the terminals? |
| 17:25.56 | tzanger | fugitivo: yes, We settled on iaxclient with some magic to make a UI for them |
| 17:25.58 | bkw_ | POOSE MENIS!!!!!!! |
| 17:26.02 | sivana | heh |
| 17:26.09 | tzanger | bkw_: how'd you know? |
| 17:26.13 | NormAst | mogorman: hmmmm.. Pretty look code.. |
| 17:26.15 | fugitivo | tzanger: nice |
| 17:26.18 | NormAst | looking. |
| 17:26.24 | guugmember | tzanger, some weirdness? what do you mean by that? |
| 17:26.27 | bkw_ | thats hot!!! |
| 17:26.34 | drumkilla | that's gorgeous ... |
| 17:26.39 | guugmember | tzanger, in the hardware arena? |
| 17:26.48 | bkw_ | drumkilla, hahahaha |
| 17:26.52 | mogorman | umm? |
| 17:27.06 | tzanger | guugmember: hardware, network environment,e tc. all details that iwll need to be figured out |
| 17:27.13 | bkw_ | mogorman, have you heard mattf doing the "that's gorgous!" thing? |
| 17:27.30 | mogorman | no i have missed that |
| 17:27.30 | bkw_ | whats sad is he does it better than me |
| 17:27.34 | bkw_ | ask him to do that |
| 17:27.37 | mogorman | although i liked his new shades |
| 17:27.42 | bkw_ | those gay things |
| 17:27.44 | bkw_ | patooey |
| 17:27.49 | guugmember | tzanger, we have nothing, we have to start from the botton |
| 17:27.52 | bkw_ | haha |
| 17:27.54 | guugmember | s/botton/bottom |
| 17:27.57 | mogorman | lol you said it not eye |
| 17:27.58 | tzanger | guugmember: that's sometimes good :-) |
| 17:28.05 | mogorman | s/eye/i |
| 17:28.22 | guugmember | tzanger, we are trying to package the solution |
| 17:28.23 | bkw_ | mogorman, so you agree eh? |
| 17:28.30 | drumkilla | I liked 'em |
| 17:28.42 | bkw_ | I did too |
| 17:28.43 | mogorman | i dont get the point of clear glasses |
| 17:28.50 | mogorman | unless you have a vision problem |
| 17:29.01 | guugmember | tzanger, do you recommend old cpus or LTSP Certified Workstations |
| 17:29.01 | bkw_ | CONTACTS |
| 17:29.08 | drumkilla | mogorman: to look cool |
| 17:29.16 | guugmember | tzanger, from http://www.disklessworkstations.com/ |
| 17:29.26 | mogorman | thats like ties functionless piece of clothing |
| 17:29.38 | drumkilla | I hate ties. |
| 17:29.48 | anthm | zip ties are nice |
| 17:30.00 | drumkilla | ooh! zip ties are definitely handy. |
| 17:30.13 | mogorman | lol |
| 17:30.17 | drumkilla | and duct tape ... |
| 17:30.19 | sivana | I like clip ons better |
| 17:30.40 | tzanger | guugmember: I just use old PCUs |
| 17:30.41 | tzanger | er CPUs |
| 17:30.57 | sivana | AgiNamu: ping |
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| 17:31.34 | guugmember | tzanger, i will have to buy them to companies that have bought new ones |
| 17:31.45 | tzanger | eh? |
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| 17:32.11 | fugitivo | anyone got DTMF working with kphone+asterisk? |
| 17:32.28 | guugmember | tzanger, http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/200033.html |
| 17:33.22 | tzanger | guugmember: yeah we use the dells too :-) |
| 17:33.32 | fugitivo | oh oh |
| 17:33.36 | fugitivo | sorry, i found the problem |
| 17:33.43 | dwmw2_gone | fugitivo: by watching the... like that |
| 17:33.44 | tzanger | not those exact ones but same type |
| 17:33.54 | fugitivo | :) |
| 17:33.59 | dwmw2_gone | by disabling gsm? |
| 17:34.06 | fugitivo | inband |
| 17:34.18 | _GaM3R_ | anyone out there got suggestions on what cards to use that can be bought somewhere in australia? iv been looking but everything i find i have to import (which also means it wont know the aussie dialtone) |
| 17:34.25 | fugitivo | dtmfmods=inbad |
| 17:34.36 | bkw_ | inband |
| 17:34.40 | Jer13261 | sure it will |
| 17:34.43 | bkw_ | dtmfmode= |
| 17:34.44 | drumkilla | _GaM3R_: email sales@digium.com and see if they have a reseller in Australia |
| 17:34.45 | mogorman | no its inbad |
| 17:34.50 | mogorman | because using inband is bad |
| 17:34.53 | mogorman | there is atp |
| 17:34.55 | bkw_ | I agree |
| 17:34.55 | mogorman | drumkilla |
| 17:34.57 | fugitivo | hehe |
| 17:35.02 | file[laptop] | darumkilla! |
| 17:35.03 | drumkilla | mogorman |
| 17:35.18 | file[laptop] | bkw_: I'm looking at more Apple hardware, curses |
| 17:35.56 | bkw_ | hahahhahahaha |
| 17:36.03 | bkw_ | file thats rich |
| 17:36.14 | drumkilla | at least it's not windows. |
| 17:36.19 | bkw_ | exactly |
| 17:36.24 | bkw_ | thats all that matters |
| 17:36.34 | file[laptop] | indeed |
| 17:36.47 | drumkilla | x86 hardware is so much cheaper, though ... |
| 17:36.53 | bkw_ | not really |
| 17:36.58 | bkw_ | if you count how bad it sucks |
| 17:37.08 | bkw_ | :P |
| 17:37.20 | p1tst0p | actually, i |
| 17:38.04 | fugitivo | oh |
| 17:38.23 | fugitivo | inband isn't supported on gsm |
| 17:38.38 | bkw_ | DUH |
| 17:38.43 | file[laptop] | bkw_: deep breaths |
| 17:39.10 | drumkilla | take that! |
| 17:40.04 | file[laptop] | I must close this Apple Store window |
| 17:40.05 | file[laptop] | MUST |
| 17:40.18 | file[laptop] | but it has such cute and nice stuff |
| 17:40.32 | bkw_ | file you use that mac all the time now dont ya? |
| 17:40.52 | file[laptop] | well I use it enough that I ported all of our internal software to run on it :p |
| 17:41.23 | dwmw2_gone | unfortunately kphone seems to be playing all sound wrong-endian on it :) |
| 17:41.33 | bkw_ | haha |
| 17:41.40 | drumkilla | haha ... I bet that sounds grrreeaat |
| 17:41.49 | dwmw2_gone | fairly much like white noise |
| 17:42.18 | mogorman | lol |
| 17:42.22 | drumkilla | does your speach increase the intensity of the white noise? |
| 17:42.22 | Damin | drumkilla: Hey.. is asterisk-addons really fubarred? |
| 17:42.37 | mogorman | ? |
| 17:42.40 | drumkilla | Damin: um ... |
| 17:42.44 | drumkilla | Damin: you tell me :) |
| 17:42.49 | Katty | hmm. |
| 17:43.09 | Damin | I built it fine from cvs |
| 17:43.38 | drumkilla | there were no changes in 1.0.7 for addons |
| 17:43.45 | drumkilla | maybe it got checked out wrong for the tar |
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| 17:44.19 | Damin | I cant download the tar file.. problems on Digium's servers? |
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| 17:44.52 | drumkilla | I got it in about 5 seconds |
| 17:46.04 | drumkilla | Damin: yeah, there is something not right. |
| 17:46.13 | drumkilla | Damin: mysql-vm-routines.h isn't even there |
| 17:46.30 | Katty | it has insaned. |
| 17:46.46 | Katty | like bkw_ who won't give me any information |
| 17:47.30 | bkw_ | what? |
| 17:47.32 | bkw_ | info on what? |
| 17:47.35 | mogorman | bkw_ is very secretive |
| 17:47.39 | mogorman | about everything... |
| 17:47.42 | bkw_ | seductive!! |
| 17:47.46 | bkw_ | :P |
| 17:48.00 | file[laptop] | bkw_ likes to touch my inodes! |
| 17:48.10 | bkw_ | I did not touch them once |
| 17:48.14 | bkw_ | i was well behaved |
| 17:48.16 | bkw_ | :P |
| 17:48.19 | file[laptop] | uh huh, a likely story |
| 17:48.59 | Katty | bkw_: i've only asked you 3 times about that chicago thing |
| 17:49.07 | Katty | bkw_: i'm starting to think you'd rather i not show up! |
| 17:49.11 | mogorman | heh' |
| 17:49.12 | file[laptop] | he's got ADD! |
| 17:49.16 | file[laptop] | we all do! |
| 17:49.18 | file[laptop] | IT'S THE TRUTH! |
| 17:49.20 | bkw_ | no i'll be there.. but I don't recall you asking me in the past week |
| 17:49.41 | bkw_ | I still need more people to talk at the conference |
| 17:49.47 | Katty | bkw_: by chance, if someone holds a flashlight..............no...that's just too easy |
| 17:49.58 | bkw_ | haha |
| 17:50.08 | file[laptop] | bkw_: I should probably get the stuff together to go to this |
| 17:50.09 | Katty | hmm, talk. |
| 17:50.12 | Katty | I can talk. |
| 17:50.17 | Katty | But it won't be about asterisk ;) |
| 17:50.17 | bkw_ | well I do know the advanced track is going to be throwing all the developers in a room and letting them fight. |
| 17:50.20 | tzanger | yeah she talks a lot |
| 17:50.26 | Katty | tzanger: i love you too. |
| 17:50.29 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 17:50.35 | bkw_ | Katty, you know any C? |
| 17:50.39 | bkw_ | or anything like that? |
| 17:50.44 | file[laptop] | bkw_: mmm... fight... |
| 17:50.45 | dwmw2_gone | hm |
| 17:50.57 | Katty | bkw_: not enough to mean anything |
| 17:51.10 | bkw_ | Katty, could you decode and understand app_skel.c |
| 17:51.17 | bkw_ | thats how I started |
| 17:51.18 | dwmw2_gone | exten => 40,1,Dial(IAX2/${IAXINFO}@iaxtel.com/18884355674@iaxtel.com) |
| 17:51.19 | Katty | probably. |
| 17:51.35 | Katty | but considering i haven't looked at app_skel.c yet... |
| 17:51.35 | bkw_ | dwmw2_gone, who the heck told you to do it like that? |
| 17:51.36 | *** join/#asterisk sysdef (~sysdef@sysdef.admin.debiancenter) |
| 17:51.38 | file[laptop] | bkw_: I was hoping you were gonna be mean and say "decode and understand app_voicemail.c" |
| 17:51.49 | bkw_ | file NOT EVEN I can follow voicemail |
| 17:51.49 | drumkilla | Damin: -addons has been fixed |
| 17:51.54 | bkw_ | its so fucking warped its not even funny |
| 17:51.56 | dwmw2_gone | bkw_: I was making shortcuts to call just that number |
| 17:52.05 | file[laptop] | bkw_: I know |
| 17:52.10 | dwmw2_gone | based on what I see at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Settings+Iaxtel |
| 17:52.18 | file[laptop] | we should think about what we've got right now |
| 17:52.20 | Katty | I'm stuck with WINDOWS clients. I've yet to sit down and configure asterisk. |
| 17:52.23 | bkw_ | Katty, mike and I are working on the cluecon schedule right now |
| 17:52.23 | file[laptop] | cause the good things are made about time |
| 17:52.27 | file[laptop] | smile to your problems leave the past behind |
| 17:52.32 | file[laptop] | never forget this |
| 17:52.34 | bkw_ | Katty, its fun |
| 17:52.36 | file[laptop] | find the truth in your soul, keeping you alive |
| 17:52.40 | tzanger | bkw_: where's cluecon again? |
| 17:52.44 | bkw_ | Chicago |
| 17:52.44 | Katty | bkw_: ya, looks dreamy |
| 17:52.45 | file[laptop] | Chicago |
| 17:52.49 | tzanger | hmm |
| 17:52.55 | bkw_ | Aug 3rd-5th |
| 17:52.55 | tzanger | mike asked me if I was gonna be there |
| 17:52.55 | file[laptop] | the past is all that's gone... the future is yet to come! |
| 17:53.00 | tzanger | I wouldn't mind going at all |
| 17:53.10 | Katty | bkw_: i'd rather just find a spot in the back :< |
| 17:53.12 | Damin | bkw_: WTF? 996 doesn't support g729? |
| 17:53.20 | bkw_ | Damin, I can make it support it if you like |
| 17:53.21 | bkw_ | ;) |
| 17:53.26 | Katty | too many strange males would be looking at me. |
| 17:53.27 | file[laptop] | bkw_: so how much am I looking at for going to this? |
| 17:53.27 | Damin | yes please :) |
| 17:53.50 | tzanger | Katty: just a few |
| 17:53.51 | Katty | tzanger: yeah, you'd like twice. |
| 17:53.52 | goobster | Can anyone recommend a good free IAX2 softphone? |
| 17:53.57 | tzanger | I'll wear a skirt if it'llmake you feel more comfortable |
| 17:53.59 | Katty | s/like/look |
| 17:54.04 | Katty | tzanger: exce;;emt |
| 17:54.07 | Katty | ... |
| 17:54.09 | bkw_ | Damin, it has it |
| 17:54.10 | Damin | goobster: firefly |
| 17:54.20 | Katty | s/exce;;emt/excellent |
| 17:54.22 | tzanger | no nylons though, they make my legs itch |
| 17:54.33 | Katty | they so do |
| 17:54.33 | p1tst0p | how do i make bitchx stop ignoring someone anyone know ? |
| 17:54.35 | bkw_ | and you know this how? |
| 17:54.40 | tzanger | hahahaha |
| 17:54.42 | bkw_ | p1tst0p, /unigh |
| 17:54.46 | Damin | bkw_: Mar 20 12:54:24 WARNING[1508]: chan_iax2.c:5614 socket_read: Call rejected by 66.250.68.194: Unable to negotiate codec |
| 17:54.53 | bkw_ | Damin, you have it allowed? |
| 17:54.55 | bkw_ | on your end? |
| 17:54.56 | Katty | bkw_: keep me posted and i'll show up (= |
| 17:55.03 | Damin | bkw_: yep.. |
| 17:55.03 | bkw_ | Katty, sure thing honey |
| 17:55.07 | Katty | bkw_: i'll even make my comp. pay for it. |
| 17:55.09 | tzanger | I'm trying to make roast again |
| 17:55.10 | file[laptop] | $660 for flight, oh goody |
| 17:55.13 | tzanger | my last attempt was pitiful |
| 17:55.14 | *** join/#asterisk xmir (euu2bo@superspitzy.vx.no) |
| 17:55.23 | tzanger | the veggies tasted AWESOMe but the roast itself was entirely flavourless |
| 17:55.30 | Katty | bkw_: honey isn't vegan :<<< |
| 17:55.31 | p1tst0p | cheers bkw_ |
| 17:55.38 | tzanger | file[laptop]: hey |
| 17:55.43 | tzanger | don't make me get the muzzle |
| 17:55.47 | file[laptop] | tastes like chicken |
| 17:55.48 | *** join/#asterisk Nix (~Nix@81.213.125.220) |
| 17:55.48 | Katty | kinky |
| 17:55.50 | bkw_ | file 996 dear |
| 17:55.53 | Damin | bkw_: I'm just doing this: exten => 996,1,Dial,IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996 |
| 17:55.57 | file[laptop] | bkw_: do I have to? |
| 17:56.01 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.07 | Katty | tzanger: they make muzzles you know |
| 17:56.11 | Katty | tzanger: and bridles too |
| 17:56.16 | brc_ | oh fileeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 17:56.22 | goobster | The only thing I don't like about Firefly is that I keep shutting it down because I'm used to softphones minimizing to the systray when I click the X |
| 17:56.34 | Katty | god, i know too much stuff i *shouldn't* know and not enough of the stuff i *should* |
| 17:56.57 | goobster | other than that, it's an excellent client |
| 17:57.15 | Nix | hi guys |
| 17:57.25 | tzanger | Katty: ha |
| 17:57.29 | tzanger | they're talkin about you |
| 17:57.35 | Damin | bkw_: Still no love.. |
| 17:57.47 | Katty | it's not love, it's electron transfer. |
| 17:57.56 | *** part/#asterisk sysdef (~sysdef@sysdef.admin.debiancenter) |
| 17:57.56 | tzanger | blame canada |
| 17:57.59 | drumkilla | Damin: allow=all ? |
| 17:58.01 | Damin | bkw_: Should I define a peer for you and force 729? |
| 17:58.02 | Katty | let's not. |
| 17:58.07 | Katty | let's blame microsoft |
| 17:58.09 | bkw_ | Damin, ya |
| 17:58.09 | tzanger | I'm using gsm I think |
| 17:58.12 | tzanger | pretty sure anyway |
| 17:58.13 | Katty | and the limitations of silicon |
| 17:58.14 | file[laptop] | 729 is forcing |
| 17:58.18 | file[laptop] | er |
| 17:58.19 | file[laptop] | rebelling |
| 17:58.19 | Damin | bkw_: K.. BRB.. |
| 17:58.20 | Katty | yay, dna computers |
| 17:58.27 | Katty | ultraviolet++ |
| 17:58.32 | Katty | and vdsl! |
| 17:58.43 | tzanger | hmm |
| 17:58.48 | tzanger | bkw_: I'm getting weird packet stats from you |
| 17:58.50 | Katty | i wonder how much vdsl is. |
| 17:58.51 | goobster | I'm a new asterisk user - I'm having so much fun |
| 17:59.04 | Katty | goobster: and by fun you mean headaches. |
| 17:59.07 | tzanger | Channel RTT Jit Del Lost % Drop OOO Kpkts Jit Del Lost % Drop OOO Kpkts |
| 17:59.10 | tzanger | IAX2/moosepenis-6 9140 6 80 2 0 11 0 8 3962 1011 1543 90 11 4 6 |
| 17:59.12 | goobster | my girlfriend thinks I'm a total geek now though :) |
| 17:59.15 | drumkilla | goobster: be careful, you will get addicted |
| 17:59.23 | drumkilla | It will take over your life |
| 17:59.27 | Katty | yes. and then you will turn into drumkilla |
| 17:59.31 | goobster | too late, I was addicted after the first hit :) |
| 17:59.39 | drumkilla | I know what you mean. |
| 17:59.39 | Katty | now /that/ is kinky |
| 17:59.50 | goatmilk | goobster: 'hit'? now you do sound like drumkilla. |
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| 18:00.41 | goatmilk | drumkilla's favorite vein to use while shooting up is in his right foot |
| 18:00.41 | brc_ | file[laptop], 669 |
| 18:00.45 | Damin | bkw_: Still no love.. |
| 18:00.53 | file[laptop] | brc_: kaboom |
| 18:00.55 | brc_ | it fixed now |
| 18:01.00 | goobster | ha! |
| 18:01.03 | brc_ | ah! |
| 18:01.40 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPower (~eric@dsl-208-164-150-160.datasync.com) |
| 18:01.48 | goobster | What sucks is that Packet8 is the only voip provider who has PSTN numbers in my area |
| 18:02.10 | goatmilk | sounds like a business opportunity |
| 18:02.16 | drumkilla | toll-free, wooo |
| 18:02.38 | goobster | maybe it is a business opp now that I think about it |
| 18:02.39 | tzanger | there that's better |
| 18:02.47 | *** join/#asterisk sddddd (Dom@81-86-221-126.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 18:02.53 | sddddd | topping retransmission on '0f3f2e8a4905eca76942059c6e244400@IP' of Request 102: Found |
| 18:02.56 | sddddd | what does that mean? |
| 18:03.13 | tzanger | yankee pot roast looks disgusting |
| 18:03.30 | drumkilla | oh, i see, we're not important. |
| 18:03.52 | goobster | I would need to learn a bit more about telephony first though |
| 18:04.13 | drumkilla | yes, that is key. |
| 18:04.28 | sddddd | Anyone know? |
| 18:04.44 | goobster | I don't know what is involved in providing local numbers |
| 18:04.48 | goatmilk | i am going to be productive. later folks |
| 18:04.53 | drumkilla | goatmilk: never |
| 18:05.09 | goobster | even though my server is only about 10 feet away from the local phone company's equipment |
| 18:05.09 | goatmilk | drumkilla: octopussy |
| 18:05.58 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (~roy@ti211210a080-2089.bb.online.no) |
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| 18:06.11 | Damin | drumkilla: So.. you best make an announcement telling people to re-download asterisk-addons |
| 18:06.23 | drumkilla | heh ... |
| 18:06.50 | mogorman | what happened drumkilla |
| 18:06.55 | drumkilla | it was a snapshot of cvs head |
| 18:07.15 | Damin | drumkilla: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.0.7 -addons doesn't compile |
| 18:07.27 | sddddd | topping retransmission on '0f3f2e8a4905eca76942059c6e244400@IP' of Request 102: Found |
| 18:07.29 | Damin | Best respond to that and thank the guy for finding it. :) |
| 18:07.39 | drumkilla | I'm not on the users list, but I'll send an email |
| 18:08.35 | mogorman | lol |
| 18:10.44 | drumkilla | Damin: sent |
| 18:11.23 | Shido6 | :) |
| 18:12.03 | *** join/#asterisk PoWeRKiLL (~PoWeRKiLL@l02m-4-165.d4.club-internet.fr) |
| 18:12.56 | sddddd | Anyone any idea why it will only use the default context |
| 18:13.01 | sddddd | and no the one specified? |
| 18:13.11 | Shido6 | well |
| 18:13.16 | sddddd | not* |
| 18:13.19 | Shido6 | how are you specifying it |
| 18:13.25 | Shido6 | pastebin.ca your sip.conf |
| 18:13.32 | Shido6 | and the context you are trying to specify |
| 18:13.35 | Shido6 | from extensions.conf |
| 18:13.46 | Shido6 | then send us the URL pastebin gives you so we can take a peek |
| 18:13.49 | *** join/#asterisk major7 (~major7@adsl1.kennedysgroup.com) |
| 18:13.55 | Shido6 | feel free to comment out passwords if you are paranoid |
| 18:16.27 | dwmw2_gone | bkw_: can you make an alternative suggestion? |
| 18:17.30 | dwmw2_gone | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.30 | dwmw2_gone | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.30 | dwmw2_gone | Mar 20 18:17:16 WARNING[10524]: chan_iax2.c:1477 attempt_transmit: Max retries exceeded to host 69.73.19.178 on IAX2/iaxtel-outbound/3 (type = 6, subclass = 9, ts=2861, seqno=1) |
| 18:17.57 | *** join/#asterisk hemant (hemant@61.0.56.117) |
| 18:18.57 | hemant | hi all |
| 18:23.03 | dan2 | drumkilla: hey there |
| 18:27.26 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 18:27.27 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 18:27.28 | ManxPower | ~mailinglist |
| 18:27.29 | jbot | it has been said that mailinglist is Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/ |
| 18:27.54 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ManxPower, you forgot one |
| 18:28.01 | ManxPower | ~astcvs |
| 18:28.02 | jbot | from memory, astcvs is echo "CVS-HEAD:"; cvs co asterisk asterisk-sounds libpri zaptel; echo "CVS 1.0.x:"; cvs co -r v1-0 asterisk asterisk-sounds libpri zaptel; echo "Anyone that uses CVS and is not on asterisk-cvs mailing list is an idiot! See http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-cvs" |
| 18:28.03 | ManxPower | There/ |
| 18:28.05 | MikeJ[Jayden] | ~rtfw |
| 18:28.06 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, rtfw is Read That F*cking Wiki, the one at http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php |
| 18:28.19 | ManxPower | The Wiki is on the ~docs list. |
| 18:28.37 | MikeJ[Jayden] | o... so it is |
| 18:28.43 | MikeJ[Jayden] | :| |
| 18:32.21 | delphiuk | anyone know why my pot phone won't "ring" when plugged into a sipura 2000? If I pick up the phone, I "can" talk both ways |
| 18:32.34 | Shido6 | damnit |
| 18:32.36 | Shido6 | let me guess |
| 18:32.40 | Shido6 | "friend" in sip.conf , eh? |
| 18:32.43 | mikegrb | delphiuk: it won't "ring" but will it ring? |
| 18:32.54 | Shido6 | delphiuk breakout the friend to a user and peer |
| 18:32.55 | mikegrb | and you "can" talk but can you talk? |
| 18:33.07 | mikegrb | also, delphiuk r the dumb |
| 18:33.17 | Shido6 | and before we even get started you can talk and hear and so can the other user right? no one way audio problems? |
| 18:33.35 | delphiuk | um, no audio problems, just the phone won't ring |
| 18:33.38 | Shido6 | ok |
| 18:33.41 | Shido6 | then look in sip.conf |
| 18:33.51 | Shido6 | whats the username for your sip device ( sipura ) |
| 18:33.53 | Shido6 | ? |
| 18:34.00 | delphiuk | 203 |
| 18:34.02 | Shido6 | or endpoint name... however you want to look at it |
| 18:34.05 | Shido6 | GOOD! |
| 18:34.06 | Shido6 | ok |
| 18:34.12 | Shido6 | so you should have to sections in sip.conf |
| 18:34.15 | Shido6 | one type =user |
| 18:34.18 | Shido6 | one type = peer |
| 18:34.19 | mikegrb | Shido6: he forgot to turn the ringer on his phone on |
| 18:34.21 | Shido6 | no type=friend |
| 18:34.23 | PoWeRKiLL | someone have a solution for this problem http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-February/090020.html ? |
| 18:34.24 | Shido6 | LOL |
| 18:34.26 | Shido6 | no ringer? |
| 18:34.28 | Shido6 | are you serious |
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| 18:34.48 | delphiuk | i have type=friend |
| 18:35.10 | Shido6 | err |
| 18:35.12 | Shido6 | pastebin.ca |
| 18:35.20 | Shido6 | your sip.conf ( you can take out passwords if you want) |
| 18:35.34 | Shido6 | and the context you are using as well |
| 18:35.36 | delphiuk | pastebin.ca? |
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| 18:36.37 | Shido6 | yes |
| 18:36.41 | *** part/#asterisk mogorman (~mogorman@pcp03051659pcs.huntsv01.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:36.42 | Shido6 | http://pastebin.ca |
| 18:36.49 | Shido6 | allows you to post things |
| 18:36.51 | Shido6 | so we all can see |
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| 18:37.10 | delphiuk | ah, i see. ok, 2 secs... |
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| 18:39.50 | Qwell | Shido6: Is it bad to use type=friend or something? |
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| 18:48.49 | Shido6 | err |
| 18:48.50 | Shido6 | not bad |
| 18:48.53 | Shido6 | just not advised |
| 18:49.22 | Shido6 | my students learn to use peers and users first |
| 18:49.28 | Qwell | any specific reasons why? |
| 18:49.31 | Shido6 | then if they want to goof off they can use friend |
| 18:49.39 | Shido6 | why because it gives you more problems than solutions |
| 18:49.43 | Qwell | oh |
| 18:50.19 | Qwell | You teach a course on *? |
| 18:50.31 | Shido6 | consulting |
| 18:51.01 | Shido6 | and as soon as I can afford it Im scooping up ManxPower |
| 18:51.05 | Qwell | heh |
| 18:51.12 | Shido6 | and a few other cats |
| 18:53.46 | PTG123 | heh |
| 18:55.09 | Qwell | morning boss ;p |
| 18:55.16 | PTG123 | hehe |
| 18:55.19 | PTG123 | another day another dollar :) |
| 18:55.26 | PTG123 | hopefully i'll make 2 dollars today |
| 18:55.31 | Qwell | congrats |
| 18:55.41 | PTG123 | hows the baby? |
| 18:55.49 | Qwell | Good. Sleeping. |
| 18:55.57 | PTG123 | thats always the best time to have ababy :) |
| 18:56.07 | Qwell | ;] |
| 18:56.09 | PTG123 | sleeping through the night? |
| 18:56.14 | Qwell | not even close |
| 18:56.29 | PTG123 | ours always did :) |
| 18:56.40 | Qwell | wow, lucky |
| 18:56.40 | PTG123 | but its hard for the mother to let them cry the first couple times you need to, to get them to slepe though the night |
| 18:57.03 | Damin | Both of mine are sleeping through the night.. |
| 18:57.10 | Damin | One is 3 years, and the other is 8 months.. |
| 18:57.13 | Qwell | Damin: three weeks old? |
| 18:57.30 | Damin | Qwell: Took the first one about 2 weeks to get on schedule.. |
| 18:57.35 | Qwell | hmm |
| 18:57.45 | Damin | Qwell: The trick is to just feed them and not play with them at night.. |
| 18:57.55 | Qwell | thats all we do |
| 18:57.55 | PTG123 | and let them cry at first :) |
| 18:58.02 | PTG123 | your suppose to increase the amount you let them cry each time |
| 18:58.06 | PTG123 | till they don't cry any more |
| 18:58.23 | Damin | Qwell: And, yeah.. let them cry a little bit.. |
| 18:58.38 | Qwell | duly noted |
| 18:59.07 | PTG123 | So whats on the schedule today |
| 18:59.13 | PTG123 | what did you think about the system qwell? |
| 18:59.33 | Qwell | It looks pretty good. I see a few issues, but they're minor. |
| 18:59.47 | *** part/#asterisk Madkiss (madkiss@madkiss.staff.freenode) |
| 18:59.51 | Qwell | "Summery" for example |
| 18:59.54 | PTG123 | well you will have issues with a beta system :) |
| 18:59.57 | Qwell | yeah |
| 19:00.08 | PTG123 | did you mess with the pdf generation at all? |
| 19:00.14 | Qwell | some |
| 19:00.23 | PTG123 | thats the first thing we need to fix |
| 19:02.51 | delphiuk | did you want the complete sip.conf posted Shido6? |
| 19:03.02 | Shido6 | that would be nice |
| 19:03.04 | Shido6 | but not really |
| 19:03.06 | Shido6 | [general] |
| 19:03.15 | Shido6 | and the user and peer or "friend" you are having trouble with |
| 19:03.17 | Shido6 | thats all i need |
| 19:03.21 | Shido6 | and the context you are using |
| 19:03.24 | delphiuk | ok. |
| 19:03.24 | Shido6 | from extensions.conf |
| 19:03.32 | Shido6 | paste it here |
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| 19:03.34 | Shido6 | I'll make changes |
| 19:03.36 | Shido6 | and post |
| 19:03.39 | Shido6 | so everyone can see |
| 19:04.10 | Qwell | I hate the travel channel. |
| 19:04.16 | Qwell | always makes me want to go to Vegas |
| 19:04.20 | Shido6 | Qwell |
| 19:04.21 | emitrax | question: Does asterisk translate H323 calls to SIP ? I mean, can I call from an H323 softphone to a CISCO SIP phone for example with asterisk ? |
| 19:04.26 | delphiuk | i have already pasted the sip entry in pastbin.ca |
| 19:04.59 | Shido6 | delphiuk |
| 19:05.01 | Shido6 | where? |
| 19:05.02 | *** join/#asterisk Druken (~druken@CPE00119539b9cc-CM000e5cde4ca2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 19:05.03 | Shido6 | did I miss it? |
| 19:05.18 | delphiuk | http://pastebin.ca/raw/7810 |
| 19:05.30 | Shido6 | Invalid post ID. |
| 19:05.37 | chetan | emitrax: I have tested sip softphone to h323, but not the other way around |
| 19:05.41 | Shido6 | delphiuk |
| 19:05.44 | Shido6 | cant get to that |
| 19:05.52 | drumkilla | emitrax: yes |
| 19:05.53 | Shido6 | it worked last I checked |
| 19:05.54 | delphiuk | ok, i'll post again |
| 19:06.01 | Shido6 | h323 to sip and sip to h323 |
| 19:06.09 | Shido6 | jeremys gotta few more things to fix in chan_h323 |
| 19:06.12 | drumkilla | basically, anything to anything |
| 19:06.24 | Shido6 | but shouldnt take more than a few days... he codes in hours rather than days anyway |
| 19:06.42 | Shido6 | delphiuk, makin a new post? |
| 19:06.54 | delphiuk | Shido6: yes, just doing it now |
| 19:07.26 | Shido6 | ok |
| 19:08.32 | delphiuk | Shido6: http://pastebin.ca/7812 |
| 19:09.07 | Shido6 | ok |
| 19:09.08 | Shido6 | explain this |
| 19:09.09 | goobster | hmmmm |
| 19:09.12 | Shido6 | hat do you want to do delphiuk |
| 19:09.12 | Shido6 | ? |
| 19:09.15 | Shido6 | wwwwwww |
| 19:09.17 | Shido6 | stupid "w" |
| 19:09.25 | Shido6 | eluminix sucks as a keyboard |
| 19:09.56 | goobster | broadvoice doesn't list having numbers in my area, but I just read that they get services from Level3 who has an exchange here... |
| 19:10.03 | goobster | maybe I should call Broadvoice? |
| 19:10.25 | delphiuk | my pot phone that is plugged into a sipura 2000 ata, won't ring, but if I pick it up (when it's supposed to be ringing, I can talk both ways) |
| 19:10.48 | Shido6 | ok |
| 19:10.57 | Shido6 | question |
| 19:11.03 | Shido6 | what do you want to do with your phone |
| 19:11.06 | Shido6 | as you have no user |
| 19:11.20 | Qwell | Do you guys know much about Plantronics headsets? Specifically the cs10 cordless headset? |
| 19:11.24 | Shido6 | and you didnt paste the context you are using for the phone which gives me the impression you just didnt know :) |
| 19:11.30 | Shido6 | what would you like to DO with this phone? |
| 19:11.31 | PTG123 | i use the plantronics m3500 its not bad |
| 19:11.40 | Shido6 | call other extensions and make outbound calls on your box? |
| 19:11.44 | Qwell | Thats for a cellphone? |
| 19:11.55 | delphiuk | Shido6: yes, just a normal phone. |
| 19:12.14 | delphiuk | damn, i can't believe i missed the user bit out! |
| 19:12.26 | Qwell | This one is for a POTS phone, connects to the handset (RJ11). Trying to figure out what requirements it has for a phone. I assume it'll work on any phone with an RJ11 detachable handset, but... |
| 19:12.47 | Qwell | plantronics.com isn't exactly helpful |
| 19:13.12 | Shido6 | delphiuk, its ok |
| 19:13.22 | Shido6 | what context do you want this phone to use, delphiuk ? |
| 19:14.05 | delphiuk | defualt? I have just entered the username, and confirmed that I can call from the pot to my BT 100 and the BT 100 rings |
| 19:14.13 | Shido6 | ok |
| 19:14.14 | Shido6 | no |
| 19:14.18 | Shido6 | stay away from default |
| 19:14.33 | Shido6 | use default to dump your dumb user calls |
| 19:14.47 | delphiuk | ok |
| 19:14.58 | Shido6 | which should play " Dood... Im sorry, you arent authorized to place calls to this server, please contact. xxxx for sales" |
| 19:15.00 | Shido6 | or something similar |
| 19:15.06 | Shido6 | this way if ANYONE has your ip |
| 19:15.11 | Shido6 | they get that message |
| 19:15.12 | Shido6 | now |
| 19:15.15 | delphiuk | good idea |
| 19:15.22 | Shido6 | because default |
| 19:15.29 | Shido6 | is what asterisk will dump people into if they are not a user |
| 19:15.32 | Shido6 | on your box |
| 19:15.38 | Shido6 | follow? |
| 19:15.42 | delphiuk | yes |
| 19:15.57 | Shido6 | so why not dump them into a message they can understand AND give info on how to get signed up with you |
| 19:15.59 | Shido6 | or how to reach you |
| 19:16.24 | delphiuk | yes, like it :) |
| 19:16.33 | Shido6 | now you could create a [guest] user which is what I do for my students to reach me IAX2/guest@shido.gotdns.org/3000 |
| 19:16.34 | Shido6 | for example |
| 19:16.58 | Shido6 | so you can enter exten => 31337,1,Dial(IAX2/guest@shido.gotdns.org/3000) |
| 19:17.16 | sneak | sup shido |
| 19:17.39 | Shido6 | and since I have ....http://pastebin.ca/7813 |
| 19:17.47 | Shido6 | I dont allo ulaw |
| 19:18.18 | Shido6 | since I like to......... how should I put this...initiate large iso secure transfers ? |
| 19:18.27 | Shido6 | no wait , let me say that with authority |
| 19:18.32 | Shido6 | I initiate large iso secure transfers. |
| 19:18.34 | Shido6 | hey sneak |
| 19:18.37 | sneak | aka "pr0n" |
| 19:18.45 | sneak | "pr0n vcds" and "juarez" |
| 19:18.51 | Shido6 | those words never came from my console. |
| 19:18.52 | sneak | hehehe |
| 19:18.59 | Shido6 | and I had to go to dictionary.com to look them up |
| 19:19.11 | sneak | when are you crossing the river, mofo? |
| 19:19.53 | sneak | at this rate i'll be in your country sooner than you'll be in mine when the girl turns 19 and goes over there to drink (and me with her) this summer |
| 19:20.11 | Shido6 | the "girls" are out tonight |
| 19:20.28 | Shido6 | so Im home tonight doing this and workin on version 2 of www.nufone.net |
| 19:20.40 | sneak | i filed my articles in lansing friday |
| 19:20.46 | Shido6 | -$100 |
| 19:20.50 | Shido6 | or -$300 |
| 19:20.56 | sneak | $60USD for incorporating |
| 19:21.02 | Shido6 | BULLSHIT |
| 19:21.05 | Shido6 | really? |
| 19:21.11 | Qwell | its fairly cheap |
| 19:21.15 | sneak | nope, nowfal's done it a few times before and he said that's what it's supposed to be as well |
| 19:21.27 | sneak | as long as you don't exceed 60,000 shares, it's $60 to file |
| 19:22.07 | sneak | mind you that's us dollars, so it's probably like ten grand canadian or something |
| 19:22.12 | cbachman | an LLC in Illinois is in the hundreds... and $250 a year to maintain it |
| 19:23.49 | PTG123 | its $60 to file a corp someplace, where? |
| 19:23.53 | sneak | michigan |
| 19:24.02 | Qwell | I think my former co-worker was saying it was about the same in CA |
| 19:24.02 | PTG123 | nah that can't be |
| 19:24.07 | *** join/#asterisk dontmsgme (~none@207.215.252.80) |
| 19:24.13 | sneak | ptg: i just did it friday, i should know |
| 19:24.27 | sneak | want the transaction record id from my mastercard online statement? :P |
| 19:24.32 | dontmsgme | I can't get DTMF to work with Iaxcomm, anyone seen this before? |
| 19:24.58 | PTG123 | damn it is cheap |
| 19:25.25 | PTG123 | the problem is i would still have to pay to be allowed to do business here |
| 19:25.49 | PTG123 | unless you know of a bank in michigan that will let me remotely open a banka ccount |
| 19:26.00 | sneak | does a michigan corporation have to bank in michigan? |
| 19:26.07 | sneak | i don't know business law - that's my partner's department |
| 19:26.16 | sneak | i handle packets and ciscos and stuff. |
| 19:26.17 | PTG123 | sneak: if you don't, the state you bank in will require you to file in their state to do business |
| 19:26.54 | cbachman | my understanding is that if you are incorporating in another state you do need an "agent" there so you do need to add the cost for someone (usually a lawyer) handle your paperwork from the state |
| 19:28.19 | PTG123 | cbachman: ye syou do, but their are companies that will be your agent for like $20/yr |
| 19:28.38 | PTG123 | companycoporation.com a great place to do corps through, they handle everything |
| 19:28.44 | Shido6 | 20 bucks a year |
| 19:28.45 | dontmsgme | Amerilawyer.com |
| 19:28.51 | Shido6 | I'll buy that for a dollar |
| 19:29.03 | PTG123 | yah company corporation handles all my corps |
| 19:29.20 | tzanger | haaaa |
| 19:29.22 | tzanger | hahahahaha |
| 19:29.24 | tzanger | http://www.queerjoe.blogspot.com/Willie Warmer.htm |
| 19:29.37 | dontmsgme | companycoporation.com does no exist |
| 19:29.46 | Qwell | dontmsgme: typo |
| 19:30.15 | PTG123 | ah they have gotten much more expensive now |
| 19:30.18 | dontmsgme | Do you have a duns number |
| 19:30.21 | PTG123 | companycorporation |
| 19:30.28 | PTG123 | www.corporate.com |
| 19:30.35 | PTG123 | but they don't seem the bargain they use to be :) |
| 19:30.48 | Shido6 | so did I answer the sip questions? |
| 19:30.52 | dontmsgme | Try amerilawyer.com |
| 19:30.53 | Shido6 | who's next? |
| 19:30.54 | Qwell | Shido6: must have |
| 19:30.56 | dontmsgme | ME |
| 19:31.11 | dontmsgme | I'M NEXT |
| 19:31.21 | Shido6 | Cash Back Bonus$ From PayPal Inc Debit Card just throws me off |
| 19:31.34 | Shido6 | its like a penny dward droppin pennies in my account |
| 19:31.39 | Shido6 | dwarf |
| 19:31.43 | PTG123 | wowo $99 for florida corp :) |
| 19:32.32 | dontmsgme | Why does Iaxcomm work but Xlite won't register, nor will Firefly, allt he logins are the same |
| 19:32.43 | dontmsgme | why does iaxcomm not do DTMF tones |
| 19:32.43 | jakepdev | if you don't have zaptel - do you need to use ztdummy? |
| 19:32.53 | Qwell | jakepdev: You don't NEED to, no |
| 19:32.56 | cbachman | yikes.... nearly 1k for an Illinois LLC (That's about what a real lawyer charged me anyway...) |
| 19:32.59 | Qwell | only if you want timing for things like meetme |
| 19:33.20 | elriah | Hi all - where are the zaptel drivers? Are the included with asterisk? |
| 19:33.29 | jakepdev | ok - how come i keep getting this no ISA tormenta d000 error |
| 19:33.29 | jakepdev | ? |
| 19:33.32 | Qwell | elriah: seperate package, in the same place you got asterisk |
| 19:33.50 | elriah | They called zaptel utilities? I'm using debian, installing from apt. |
| 19:34.43 | jakepdev | sounds like it's still looking for a card - but I removed the driver |
| 19:35.18 | elriah | When I modprobe, do I point to a path where the module is? |
| 19:35.32 | jakepdev | i don't remeber using a path |
| 19:35.33 | elriah | if I modprobe zaptel, says can't find module. |
| 19:36.30 | fugitivo | if you use modprobe, it'll find the module under /lib/modules/<yourrunningkernel> |
| 19:36.45 | fugitivo | if you use insmod, you should use the path |
| 19:36.53 | Qwell | but you shouldn't use insmod, heh |
| 19:37.06 | Qwell | modprobe will automatically load dependencies, which is great |
| 19:37.25 | jakepdev | but doesn't seem like it unloads everything properly |
| 19:37.37 | lqdengr | ptg123: florida corp fee is $70 |
| 19:37.42 | fugitivo | so if modprobe doesn't find the module, then it's not under your /lib/modules/<runningkernel> |
| 19:39.34 | hawaiianphoneguy | anyone know about GR-303? |
| 19:40.11 | elriah | Nope. Not there. hrm. |
| 19:40.23 | Qwell | Did you install zaptel? |
| 19:40.44 | elriah | Yep... |
| 19:40.47 | elriah | apt-get install zaptel |
| 19:41.24 | fugitivo | elriah: updatedb && locate zaptel |
| 19:42.51 | elriah | Ok, it shows me that zaptel is in /etc/modprob.d/zaptel |
| 19:43.12 | *** join/#asterisk PBXtech (~upirc@wirelessdata-167-246.mycingular.net) |
| 19:43.16 | emitrax | Can anyone point me to some HOWTO that explain how to do the following: H323 softphone -> gatekeeper -> asterisk -> cisco SIP phone ? Thanks. |
| 19:43.17 | fugitivo | i think you didn't install the drivers |
| 19:43.24 | *** join/#asterisk Goshen (~Goshen@c-67-172-238-57.client.comcast.net) |
| 19:43.29 | fugitivo | elriah: are you using kernel 2.6? |
| 19:43.41 | ariel_ | hawaiianphoneguy, what is a GR-303 |
| 19:43.42 | elriah | No, 2.4 - sarge. |
| 19:43.50 | elriah | Should I be using 2.6? |
| 19:44.02 | brc_ | hawaiianphoneguy, meaning? |
| 19:44.39 | fugitivo | not really |
| 19:44.49 | elriah | Maybe install from cvs? |
| 19:45.11 | fugitivo | or maybe you need to do apt-get install zaptel-driver? i don't use debian |
| 19:45.29 | elriah | I can't find a package caled zaptel-driver... |
| 19:45.36 | fugitivo | elriah: check http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Zaptel+Installation |
| 19:45.44 | elriah | What's a really stable linux for asterisk? Rehdat enterprise? |
| 19:45.44 | Qwell | I haven't had luck with the * packages. |
| 19:46.18 | ariel_ | elriah, CentOS works great |
| 19:46.26 | ariel_ | version 3.4 |
| 19:46.29 | brc_ | hawaiianphoneguy, hellO? |
| 19:46.48 | elriah | Does CentOS still use up2date? |
| 19:46.56 | ariel_ | yes and yum |
| 19:47.19 | ariel_ | in my view yum is better then up2date |
| 19:47.37 | fugitivo | emerge rules |
| 19:47.51 | elriah | Well, my * system works great on debian, until now -b ut I think it's more about getting the driver installed than anything else. |
| 19:48.22 | fugitivo | elriah: follow the steps on that webpage |
| 19:48.33 | elriah | Thanks - |
| 19:48.34 | *** join/#asterisk unlord (lomeando@cpe-024-163-094-176.nc.rr.com) |
| 19:49.42 | unlord | good afternoon |
| 19:50.01 | jakepdev | what's so good about it? |
| 19:50.17 | Wonka | I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed. |
| 19:50.21 | unlord | its the last day of winter |
| 19:51.35 | fugitivo | here is the last day of summer |
| 19:51.38 | fugitivo | i'm very happy |
| 19:52.24 | unlord | I'm pretty new to VoIP, and I'm not trying to setup an entier phone system. I just want to relay some audio (voice) from one machine to another with low latency |
| 19:52.24 | *** join/#asterisk jdg (~jdg@CA03F888.adsl.mana.pf) |
| 19:53.25 | unlord | what I like about asterisk is that it uses speex which I think will work really well |
| 19:56.01 | elriah | So the preferred distro is CentOS? |
| 19:56.17 | fugitivo | elriah: that's relative |
| 19:56.48 | cbachman | elriah, I think that the answer to that is to use whichever one you feel most comfortable with |
| 19:57.43 | fugitivo | elriah: debian is a great distribution |
| 19:58.02 | fugitivo | elriah: i love gentoo, but that's my preference |
| 19:58.17 | elriah | I'm pretty familiar with debian and redhat enterprise. |
| 19:58.24 | elriah | Of those two? Which would you pick? |
| 19:58.25 | chetan | fugitivo: #gentoo-voip :) |
| 19:58.27 | fugitivo | then use one of those |
| 19:58.33 | mikegrb | debian |
| 19:58.36 | mikegrb | duh |
| 19:58.38 | pulu | debian |
| 19:58.54 | dwmw2_gone | it takes a _long_ time to set up an outgoing call via iaxtel.com |
| 19:59.25 | pulu | dwmw2_gone: my registration requests are denied about 75% of the time from iaxtel... I'm gonna drop it as soon as I get around to it... |
| 19:59.28 | hawaiianphoneguy | Sorry....got disconnected |
| 20:00.04 | hawaiianphoneguy | We have a client that can give us dialtone, but it will be on a GR-303 circuit..as opposed to a PRI |
| 20:00.05 | Jer13261 | iaxtel refuses to send me my password |
| 20:00.18 | BrianR___ | Just discovered something nifty.. If I have an incoming call on my nufone 866 number and I use Dial() to connect the caller to a PSTN number also over nufone, it does a transfer and my asterisk box goes out of the loop. |
| 20:00.36 | Jer13261 | right but you stll get charged for that call |
| 20:00.40 | hawaiianphoneguy | As far as I can tell, asterisk can not directly connect to the GR-303 |
| 20:00.48 | hawaiianphoneguy | Is that correct? |
| 20:00.52 | Qwell | Jer13261: The point is to use less of your bandwidth |
| 20:01.00 | BrianR___ | Jer13261: Both of them, as best I can tell. But it's not wasting my bandwidth anymore. |
| 20:01.05 | cbachman | BrianR___, I also believe that it will still pass the original CallerID as well(from my own tests with nufone) |
| 20:01.10 | Jer13261 | ahh yes.... |
| 20:01.41 | BrianR___ | cbachman: Thinking of using it to give my wife a toll-free number for her cell phone... |
| 20:01.54 | Qwell | BrianR___: not a bad idea |
| 20:01.58 | dwmw2_gone | pulu: any suggested alternative? |
| 20:02.07 | Qwell | can't beat $0.04 |
| 20:02.09 | BrianR___ | No worries about slow internet connection here causing trouble on the call once it connects. |
| 20:02.35 | Qwell | BrianR___: and with a failover, even if your net connection is down... |
| 20:02.54 | BrianR___ | Qwell: Well. There's a few providers cheaper than nufone... But in the case where both your inbound and outbound are the same provider and that provider supports transfer you'll get PSTN quality... |
| 20:03.05 | BrianR___ | Qwell: Yeah.. That's right - nufone lets you specify a PSTN failover number... |
| 20:03.25 | BrianR___ | (I think they charge you $0.04/min for failover calls too). |
| 20:03.26 | Qwell | BrianR___: I meant, can't beat $0.04 from a PSTN telco |
| 20:03.37 | unlord | can I make calls that are only half duplex? |
| 20:03.47 | BrianR___ | Qwell: That's for sure. Most toll-free forwarding services charge a fortune. |
| 20:03.58 | unlord | as in, the caller sends voice but does not receive any |
| 20:04.13 | Qwell | I still can't get a tollfree from nufone though. ;/ |
| 20:04.17 | BrianR___ | unlord: you can play tricks with meetme to get that effect... |
| 20:04.20 | BrianR___ | Qwell: Why not? |
| 20:04.24 | Qwell | none available |
| 20:04.31 | BrianR___ | Qwell: D'oH! |
| 20:04.31 | Qwell | unless I pay $25 for a vanity |
| 20:04.31 | unlord | BrianR___: is meetme a client? |
| 20:04.34 | BrianR___ | I guess I got lucky when I signed up for mine. |
| 20:04.45 | Qwell | BrianR___: I just signed up like Friday |
| 20:04.48 | BrianR___ | unlord: No.. It's the conference feature in asterisk. You can use it to mute one half of the audio channel. |
| 20:05.34 | unlord | BrianR___: well, more specifically I'm trying to minimize the network load on the link from the caller |
| 20:05.45 | BrianR___ | Note that on PRI at least, the answering party can transmit but not receive audio before the call is answered. |
| 20:05.58 | unlord | hmm, interesting |
| 20:06.31 | BrianR___ | unlord: What you probably want is voice activity detection - ie, neither side transmits unless the person is actually talking. It sounds a little funny in asterisk 1.0.6 because comfort noise generation is broken... |
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| 20:06.55 | unlord | BrianR___: yah that actually does sound good |
| 20:07.07 | Qwell | comfort noise? |
| 20:07.13 | BrianR___ | VAD saves a bunch of bandwidth though. Even sounds OK provided both ends have working comfort noise... |
| 20:07.17 | unlord | this thing is pretty cool |
| 20:07.28 | BrianR___ | Qwell: comfort noise prevents the odd dead silence that otherwise results from VAD. |
| 20:07.34 | Qwell | oh |
| 20:07.56 | BrianR___ | Qwell: It's weird to have all the background noise go away when the other person stops talking. You wonder if you've suddenly been disconnected, but then they start talking again. |
| 20:07.59 | file[laptop] | it's comforting |
| 20:08.15 | Qwell | file[laptop]: I gathered that, thanks. :p |
| 20:08.25 | file[laptop] | SOMEONE COMFORT ME |
| 20:08.37 | BrianR___ | Although that was more of an issue in the old days - almost every wireless phone provider these days uses VAD, but many of the handsets no longer play comfort noise... |
| 20:08.57 | cbachman | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.11 | unlord | BrianR___: so I'd really want to setup a conference call, and have this machine with the audio call in |
| 20:09.18 | unlord | and then have other people call in and listen |
| 20:09.37 | unlord | that actually, sounds really freaking good |
| 20:09.43 | BrianR___ | unlord: that's the way to do it. YOu can have the TX for the talker muted and the RX for the listeners muted. |
| 20:09.52 | unlord | yep, that is what I was thinking also |
| 20:09.58 | unlord | so how hard is this to set up? |
| 20:09.59 | BrianR___ | We use that trick sometimes for all-hands company meetings where off site employees call in. |
| 20:10.11 | unlord | heh, very cool |
| 20:10.15 | cbachman | unlord, that's very easy to set up too |
| 20:10.25 | BrianR___ | unlord: Type "show application meetme" at the asterisk CLI. You just need to make two extensions that access the same conference, one with tx muted, the other with rx muted. |
| 20:10.29 | unlord | what kind of client do I need to call into asterisk ? |
| 20:10.40 | BrianR___ | unlord: Any IAX or SIP client will work. |
| 20:10.55 | unlord | hmm, wow thats pretty neat |
| 20:11.28 | BrianR___ | We use a mix of cisco, polycom, and callers coming in from a toll-free PSTN<->IAX gateway service. |
| 20:11.50 | unlord | I'd imagine my clients would all be NetMeeting or something liek that |
| 20:12.08 | BrianR___ | Oh.. ANother note on that forwarding trick - aparently may wireless providers use the caller id (!!) to determine if the call is mobile-to-mobile... |
| 20:12.21 | Qwell | BrianR___: Thats...silly |
| 20:12.25 | Qwell | no |
| 20:12.27 | Qwell | BrianR___: Thats...stupid |
| 20:12.30 | *** join/#asterisk glock (~glock@rrba-146-83-144.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 20:12.43 | BrianR___ | On verizon for example, if you call another subscriber with caller id blocked both of you get charged airtime. |
| 20:12.51 | Qwell | wow |
| 20:12.58 | Qwell | wonder if it works with sprintpcs |
| 20:13.03 | bhima | brian: are you sure? |
| 20:13.08 | BrianR___ | Qwell: No idea.. my wife is on sprint though... |
| 20:13.09 | bhima | number portability...? |
| 20:13.16 | Qwell | BrianR___: would be sweet |
| 20:13.22 | BrianR___ | No idea how int he hell they deal with number porability... |
| 20:13.41 | kraeMit | Hi all! |
| 20:13.49 | BrianR___ | bhima: It's in the fine print for their "IN" subscriber agreement even... |
| 20:13.49 | bhima | brian: do you have a source that talks about this, or have you personally verified it...? |
| 20:13.57 | BrianR___ | bhima: Personal testing. |
| 20:14.03 | kraeMit | Are the logs of this channel saved somewhere? |
| 20:14.08 | Qwell | insert into pcs2pcs (number, name) values ('555-1212', 'John Doe') |
| 20:14.09 | bhima | brian: wow. Verizon sucks. |
| 20:14.09 | Qwell | heh |
| 20:14.35 | bhima | I mean, that's pretty pathetic engineering. |
| 20:15.18 | BrianR___ | A lot of things are harder for the old A/B wireless companies since they usually don't have a centralized tie-in to the PSTN. |
| 20:15.32 | BrianR___ | Does sprint have real-time bill viewing? |
| 20:15.37 | Qwell | no :( |
| 20:15.41 | Qwell | gotta wait for the invoice |
| 20:15.48 | Qwell | otherwise I'd test it right now |
| 20:15.51 | BrianR___ | Heh. Note that date/time of your test call.. |
| 20:15.55 | bhima | qwell: how much flexibility do you have for your outgoing CID? |
| 20:16.01 | BrianR___ | So you can find it on your invoice later... |
| 20:16.09 | Qwell | bhima: With my provider...I haven't been limited as far as I can see |
| 20:16.16 | Qwell | BrianR___: I just got my bill recently. It'll be a month or so |
| 20:16.20 | Shido6 | back |
| 20:16.24 | bhima | Be careful - it's theoretically possible that they could do something like discover the call later or something. |
| 20:16.32 | bhima | (as in, if they get billed by somebody else or something) |
| 20:16.55 | BrianR___ | Most voip<->pstn providers let you set it to whatever you want... It's really essential to be able to set it to any number since many folks do least-cost outbound dialing from various providers and inbound numbers from another. |
| 20:17.01 | bhima | (I don't know who pays whom in US PSTN setups, but I can imagine something whwere they get really confused) |
| 20:17.42 | BrianR___ | Us wireless is fun. Caller pays whatever it costs to reach the rate center where the wireless number is. Callee pays for airtime according to their wireless contract. |
| 20:17.51 | BrianR___ | Worst case both callers pay for airtime. |
| 20:18.25 | BrianR___ | Also, since US wireless and wired phones are mixed together, there's no way to tell if a given number is wired or wireless. |
| 20:18.33 | BrianR___ | In fact, a number can be wired today and become wireless tomorrow. |
| 20:18.44 | BrianR___ | and vice-versa. |
| 20:18.44 | glock | Anyone use and could recommend broadvoice? |
| 20:19.08 | BrianR___ | Broadvoice... Interesting that they were on /. today. BUt there's better / cheaper providers, especially if you're using asterisk. |
| 20:19.10 | Qwell | glock: with as many people as I see coming in here complaining...not a chance, no |
| 20:19.30 | unlord | still compiling asterisk |
| 20:19.33 | unlord | yay gentoo |
| 20:19.43 | Qwell | unlord: you aren't using the package, are you? |
| 20:19.48 | Qwell | from portage that is |
| 20:19.51 | unlord | I'm using 1.0.6 |
| 20:20.05 | bhima | In Germany, there is no way to get decently priced international calling from cellular. Cellular -> 800 number calls cost the 800 provider a lot more. |
| 20:20.05 | unlord | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 |
| 20:20.13 | glock | Qwell, no you wouldnt recommend it? |
| 20:20.18 | Qwell | glock: Not a chance, no |
| 20:20.26 | bhima | So calling cards charge an order of magnitude more from a cellphone, but of course are free for the caller. |
| 20:20.39 | glock | Qwell, kk, thanks. any other alternatives that you know of? |
| 20:20.44 | Qwell | tons |
| 20:21.05 | Qwell | I'm drawing a blank though, of course. |
| 20:21.10 | Qwell | I like nufone |
| 20:21.26 | BrianR___ | It's odd in places where the caller pays extra for calls to wireless numbers... It seems like that would put the wireless providers at a disadvantage.. |
| 20:21.39 | Qwell | BrianR___: That might be the point |
| 20:22.35 | unlord | BrianR___: is there an easy way to get PCM data into a voip call? |
| 20:23.03 | BrianR___ | unlord: If it's dynamic data, the AGI facility. Otherwise, just use Background() to play a sound file. |
| 20:23.05 | unlord | I've got a program that generates pcm data to stdout (so I could pipe it into ices) |
| 20:23.21 | unlord | its being generated on the fly, I can use the AGI I guess |
| 20:23.41 | BrianR___ | Qwell: Here, I use my wireless phone almost exclusively... Since callers can't tell I don't even bother with a landline. |
| 20:24.04 | Qwell | BrianR___: I just told Verizon to piss off on Friday. No more landline |
| 20:24.19 | Qwell | from Verizon straight to nufone |
| 20:24.39 | Qwell | they had my line disconnected within like 5 minutes, heh |
| 20:24.45 | BrianR___ | My wife hasa pots line for fax.. I wish the VOIP fax gateway stuff was a little better... |
| 20:25.21 | bhima | qwell: google tells me bad things about nufone... |
| 20:25.22 | Qwell | BrianR___: I got a bill for $45...no long distance on the line. No 411 calls, nothing |
| 20:25.33 | BrianR___ | If you have an efax account, you can play games where you have spandsp on your local asterisk box capture the fax and send it via efax's fax gateway. But efax charges a lot of $$ per outgoing fax. |
| 20:25.36 | Qwell | bhima: oh, the photoshopped screenshot of the website? |
| 20:25.44 | unlord | installed |
| 20:26.05 | bhima | qwell: Didn't see any screen shots... |
| 20:26.10 | Qwell | link? |
| 20:26.11 | unlord | cool, its running |
| 20:26.14 | unlord | I have no idea what that means :) |
| 20:26.16 | BrianR___ | bhima: no operational problems with nufone so far, but they seem to be a fairly half-assed outfit from a business perspective... |
| 20:26.55 | BrianR___ | I'm also testing sixTel and voipjet |
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| 20:27.12 | BrianR___ | voipjet is outgoing only, but I have an awesome jitter-free ping time to their place... Wish they offered DID's... |
| 20:27.36 | glock | nufone's website isnt very good atm |
| 20:27.36 | Qwell | bhima: Whats the link you're seeing this claim at? |
| 20:27.38 | bhima | http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,11848052~mode=flat |
| 20:27.57 | Qwell | glock: it tells me what I need to know |
| 20:28.16 | unlord | so how do I setup a conference call? |
| 20:28.25 | unlord | isn't there a web page I can hit? |
| 20:28.57 | BrianR___ | Not sure if the incumbent provider is allowed to block outbound number portability requests for toll free numbers... Could be a FCC issue... |
| 20:29.25 | BrianR___ | There was a ruling a while back about wireless / local number portability - providers can not block your outbound portability request even if you owe money. |
| 20:29.28 | Qwell | bhima: I doubt that one. He probably had an issue, couldn't get ahold of somebody for like...5 minutes, then proceeded to whine on the internet about it. I'd bet he got it resolved shortly after |
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| 20:30.33 | bhima | http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,12723146~mode=flat |
| 20:31.35 | p1tst0p | anyone in here heard of the Astaro software firewall box, if so, have they attempted to run Asterisk behind it ? |
| 20:32.08 | bhima | qwell: I just put "nufone complaints" or similar into google. A nufone employee posted something nasty as welll. However, I'm surprised to see them linked from digium.com if they suck as much as some poeple think. |
| 20:32.55 | Qwell | bhima: If you'd like, you can wait in here a bit and possibly talk to JerJer. He's the owner of NuFone |
| 20:35.04 | bjohnson | bhima: nufone is widely regarded in asterisk circles as one of the most dependable voip providers. I'm certain you can find complaints about any voip provider |
| 20:35.44 | bjohnson | eg. I'm not too happy with sixtal atm .. it's been over a month since I asked for a DID and they haven't given it to me yet |
| 20:36.03 | bjohnson | and voipjet keeps timing out on me (very unreliable connection) |
| 20:36.54 | unlord | shoot, I hate it when I have to stop working on something |
| 20:38.45 | bhima | bjohnson: thank you. I'm not trying to badmouth them. I'm just used to idiotic customers sounding idiotic enough for my BS filter to pick them up... |
| 20:39.58 | glock | Im a bit confused. Just say i had to sign up with nuphone or broadvoice or whatever. How can people call me then. Do they assign a normal telephone number that somebody with a normal PSTN could dial? |
| 20:40.24 | unlord | BrianR___: thanks for your help, I'll be back later. this is a good looking program |
| 20:40.29 | Qwell | glock: you can either get a tollfree, or a MI DID. the MI did costs |
| 20:41.28 | glock | Qwell, mmm, whats a MI DID? |
| 20:41.33 | Qwell | michigan |
| 20:42.08 | glock | Qwell, what those numbers help if im in south africa? |
| 20:42.31 | glock | i presume somebody in south africa would have to pay even if they called the toll free number. toll free for the states only? |
| 20:42.42 | Qwell | us and canada I would imagine |
| 20:43.29 | rcsu | glock: from germany even not reachable |
| 20:43.37 | glock | Qwell, kk, thanks. makes sense. |
| 20:43.53 | bhima | Does nufone charge a monthly charge for incoming 800? |
| 20:44.11 | bhima | I've never had a problem calling a US 800 number from Germany... |
| 20:44.29 | Qwell | bhima: They charge $0.02/minute for incoming via tollfree |
| 20:44.37 | bhima | same cost as a normal number, and sometimes I get a special "this number will cost you" m |
| 20:44.40 | bhima | essage. |
| 20:45.35 | bhima | qwell: mmm, but I don't expect that many incoming calls...so I think $0.02/minute incoming would probably be a better deal than $8/month. |
| 20:45.49 | Qwell | bhima: for sure |
| 20:45.59 | cripito | :) i prefer the $8/months ;) |
| 20:46.01 | bhima | ack. nufone isn't accepting new accounts right now. wah. "system upgrades." |
| 20:46.01 | Qwell | Thats what I'm gonna do...as soon as some tollfree numbers are available. |
| 20:46.06 | bjohnson | most toll free DID soecify SU/48 states and/or Canada |
| 20:46.23 | cripito | hi |
| 20:46.34 | bjohnson | bhima: you need to find a voip provider with SA DIDs if that's what you want |
| 20:46.47 | Qwell | bjohnson: that was glock |
| 20:47.20 | bhima | bjohnson: what do those terms mean...? |
| 20:47.31 | Qwell | sa=south africa |
| 20:47.43 | bjohnson | ~DID |
| 20:47.44 | jbot | did is, like, Direct Inward Dialing |
| 20:47.48 | glock | Yeah, thanks guys. Will look for one |
| 20:48.22 | bhima | "SA DID" would be South African? I, umm, think I knew somebody from South Africa in seventh grade. But I have no affiliation with SA. |
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| 20:48.58 | glock | our country code is ZA, so maybe ZA DID :) |
| 20:49.35 | fugitivo | wow |
| 20:50.06 | fugitivo | sound_thread: Read error on sound device: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 20:50.07 | fugitivo | infinit loop :) |
| 20:50.10 | fugitivo | under openbsd |
| 20:50.24 | bjohnson | bhima: I replied to you by mistake .. it should have been to glock |
| 20:50.47 | bhima | bjohnson: ok, good. I got confused. Telecoms people always use so many weird acronyms. |
| 20:50.48 | glock | bjohnson, yeah, thanks. got it :) |
| 20:51.06 | glock | Is there a list somewhere of voip providers? |
| 20:51.13 | glock | compatible with asterisk |
| 20:51.20 | Qwell | ~docs |
| 20:51.21 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 20:51.23 | Qwell | glock: the wiki |
| 20:51.32 | glock | Qwell, kk, thanks |
| 20:51.41 | search_learn2005 | Can anyone tell me if I get a T1 PRI, do I have to use all 23 lines, or can I only use like 6 lines? Will it worth the money to pay for PRI just for 6 lines, or shall I just get 6 PSTN lines? What do you guys think? |
| 20:51.46 | bhima | any idea how long nufone takes to set up michigan DIDs? |
| 20:52.03 | Qwell | search_learn2005: it really depends on your area |
| 20:52.04 | bjohnson | glock: the list is by no means complete .. but there are hundreds there to start with |
| 20:52.15 | Qwell | search_learn2005: some telcos can give a partial T1, but... |
| 20:52.27 | bjohnson | glock: new ones pop up all the time .. some just do outgoing and other just have DIDs in limited areas |
| 20:52.51 | Qwell | guess not |
| 20:52.58 | bjohnson | heh |
| 20:53.15 | Qwell | Verizon wants $760 a month with a 1 year contract. heh |
| 20:53.27 | cripito | for a t1 Pri? |
| 20:53.28 | cripito | :D |
| 20:53.30 | Qwell | or like $950 for a "flexgrow" |
| 20:53.53 | Qwell | cripito: In southern california, yeah |
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| 20:54.35 | cripito | Qwell: :| reminds me don't move my bus there ;) |
| 20:54.59 | dwmw2_gone | search_learn2005: I have no idea about the relative costs but the other alternative could be 3 BRI lines |
| 20:55.03 | marlowe | nufone isnt accepting new orders right now |
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| 20:55.34 | bhima | marlowe: I just noticed. Any idea how long that's going to be for? |
| 20:55.36 | DannyF | hi folks |
| 20:55.47 | marlowe | bhima: Couple more weeks most likely at the least from what I hear. |
| 20:55.56 | Qwell | weeks? |
| 20:56.01 | marlowe | Don't quote me :) That's what I heard. |
| 20:56.10 | Qwell | I kinda doubt that |
| 20:56.19 | DannyF | time will tell ,) |
| 20:56.20 | bhima | wtf? That's pretty unprofessional if they don't reference a timescale at all on their site. |
| 20:56.24 | glock | bjohnson, mm, doesnt seem to be anything atm. guess i have to shop around some more |
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| 20:56.35 | marlowe | No one said nufone was the most professional company... :) |
| 20:56.46 | marlowe | Good company, yes.. Professional? :) |
| 20:57.09 | dwmw2_gone | since when have telcos been expected to be professional? :) |
| 20:57.20 | DannyF | they might have become swamped or something... better to stop letting people in that letting everything to down the drain |
| 20:57.33 | DannyF | just a thought ;) |
| 20:57.36 | Qwell | I think they're just updating the website |
| 20:57.40 | bhima | I dunno. I think downtime with no even vague order of magnitude estimate of uptime is lame. |
| 20:58.11 | DannyF | call em |
| 20:58.11 | bhima | dannyf: Oh, yes, I think that's a _veryh_ good idea. I'd just be irritated if they didn't mention timeframe at all. |
| 20:58.37 | DannyF | might pending site update ;) |
| 20:58.38 | marlowe | Well who knows, maybe they'll be back up tonight, or tomorrow. |
| 20:58.44 | marlowe | Why dont you just email them? |
| 20:58.50 | bhima | Need to finish rebuilding my ISDN box first. I don't have any PSTN service here. |
| 20:58.54 | DannyF | call their sales ;) |
| 20:58.56 | marlowe | I personally don't use them, so I'm in no need. |
| 20:59.32 | opus___ | is voicepulse good? |
| 20:59.44 | marlowe | haha, personally.. i'd say no. |
| 21:00.05 | marlowe | sorry, I truly hate voicepulse. On a professional basis and on a personal basis. |
| 21:00.08 | opus___ | well, if broadvoice sucks, nufone sucks, and voicepulse isn't good.. who is good |
| 21:00.37 | marlowe | Everyone has there own opinion. |
| 21:00.40 | cursor | Hello all |
| 21:00.43 | marlowe | I've had personal success with txlink and clearpath |
| 21:01.02 | marlowe | www.txlink.net and www.clearpath1.com (i think) |
| 21:01.12 | marlowe | haha |
| 21:01.18 | marlowe | clearpath1, new site as well |
| 21:01.20 | Druken | opus___: that all depends on what your looking for.... |
| 21:01.43 | marlowe | clearpath1 & nufone use the same company for getting DIDs |
| 21:01.54 | opus___ | druken - signel line did, multiple incoming, maybe multplie outgoing .. really good price |
| 21:02.10 | Druken | termination where? |
| 21:02.29 | opus___ | 503 |
| 21:03.01 | bhima | marlowe: somebody else does PSTN->IP for both of them, or just gives them the numbers, or...? |
| 21:03.12 | Druken | oreagon eh? |
| 21:03.14 | opus___ | yes |
| 21:03.16 | marlowe | bhima: Somebody else doesit.. Im trying to think of the company name |
| 21:03.23 | marlowe | My mind is running a blank |
| 21:03.29 | marlowe | to think I do business with them as well |
| 21:03.43 | p1tst0p | anyone in here heard of the Astaro software firewall box, if so, have they attempted to run Asterisk behind it ? |
| 21:03.46 | bhima | txlink sucks. Their "we have coverage" map has two colors, slightly lighter and slightly darker blue. |
| 21:03.57 | marlowe | bhima: Actually, txlink does not suck. |
| 21:03.58 | bhima | I _think_ that "darker blue" means "we have coverage", but I'm not sure. |
| 21:04.04 | marlowe | Although thats up to your opinion |
| 21:04.19 | marlowe | No.. I can send you pricing and a DID list |
| 21:04.24 | opus___ | where is their website |
| 21:04.25 | bhima | ok, their map drawer sucks :) |
| 21:04.30 | marlowe | Although pricing has actually gone down |
| 21:04.40 | marlowe | So what I send you would be higher |
| 21:04.49 | marlowe | I gotta find that too, one sec |
| 21:04.50 | bhima | marlowe: how quickly could I get a DID from them? |
| 21:04.50 | Druken | i personally don't know anyone that can get oregon |
| 21:04.53 | glock | Anyone know a provider with a DID for South Africa? I cant seem to find one |
| 21:04.59 | opus___ | what is txlink's URL??? |
| 21:05.03 | marlowe | www.txlink.net |
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| 21:05.23 | marlowe | bhima: I got mine in a day.. Depends on the area. For Oregon? Not sure. |
| 21:05.31 | marlowe | One second let me find out if they can even get oregon |
| 21:05.46 | bhima | I want Pittsburgh. |
| 21:06.02 | bhima | Or, well, I don't care. Pittsburgh's the only place that would be useful. |
| 21:06.23 | cursor | I bet they don't have London :-) |
| 21:06.52 | opus___ | txlink doesn't do business in my state |
| 21:07.03 | marlowe | 503207672PORTLAND OREGONBEAVERTONOR |
| 21:07.03 | marlowe | 971327672PORTLAND OREGONBEAVERTONOR |
| 21:07.08 | marlowe | wow that didnt paste right |
| 21:07.22 | opus___ | marlowe - wha??? their website has oregon grayed out |
| 21:07.26 | marlowe | 503-207 & 971-327 in OR |
| 21:07.28 | marlowe | I dunno |
| 21:07.33 | marlowe | that's what this DID pool list says |
| 21:07.38 | opus___ | marlowe where did you get that list |
| 21:07.40 | marlowe | Rate center: Beaverton |
| 21:07.45 | marlowe | opus___: in my email? :) |
| 21:07.55 | bhima | do they have 412? and what do they charge for DID? |
| 21:08.03 | opus___ | i hate companies that don't have their rate on the website |
| 21:08.08 | marlowe | $1.00/DID minimum 5 dids |
| 21:08.16 | marlowe | Just call them first thing in the morning |
| 21:08.20 | marlowe | ask for Matt |
| 21:08.25 | marlowe | Tell him Matt Marlowe sent you. |
| 21:08.33 | opus___ | will do |
| 21:08.42 | bhima | but I don't want 5 DIDs! |
| 21:08.51 | marlowe | 412592234PITTSBURGH PaPTTSBGZON1PA |
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| 21:09.04 | Sedorox | give me 4 others then :-p |
| 21:09.12 | cursor | 5 at $1 each is cheaper than 1 from a lot of places |
| 21:09.14 | bhima | That's monthly? setup charge? |
| 21:09.15 | marlowe | Well it's geared towards a businss service |
| 21:09.30 | bhima | well, yeah. And I could actually do cool things if I could easily filter my calls. |
| 21:09.35 | marlowe | They provide a great service |
| 21:09.40 | durex | Hi guys, |
| 21:09.49 | durex | I have two offices, in two cities |
| 21:09.50 | Sedorox | marlowe: what company? |
| 21:09.51 | marlowe | Far better than any other company I've dealt with so far |
| 21:09.53 | opus___ | marlowe - good because I'm tired of broadvoice not working |
| 21:10.01 | durex | both of them have PBX |
| 21:10.05 | marlowe | Sedorox: txlink |
| 21:10.10 | durex | and I wanna use asterisk only as a VoIP router |
| 21:10.20 | durex | does anybody have some example or something like? |
| 21:10.55 | marlowe | I got in a fight with there accounting the other day though because they said they never got my check |
| 21:11.01 | marlowe | Then realized I didnt send it. |
| 21:11.02 | marlowe | :-D |
| 21:11.05 | opus___ | durex - um, get an two analog devices and add an extension on your pbx to call that line, send it through asteriskanalog device |
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| 21:11.30 | marks_distro-dep | Hey |
| 21:11.43 | durex | opus___ ok, but i have to buy an asterisk analog device |
| 21:11.50 | durex | opus___ do u know where i find one ? |
| 21:11.53 | marks_distro-dep | Anyone want to host a SMALL PBX for a NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION? YOU WILL GET AN ADVERT AND LINK ON ALL OUR PAGES |
| 21:11.55 | opus___ | i need to cancel my broadvoice, apparently the quickest way is to call the cc company? |
| 21:11.58 | cursor | I can't find any prices on txlink's website |
| 21:12.00 | marks_distro-dep | we just need like a small voicemail box!!! |
| 21:12.18 | marlowe | marks_distro-dep: ill host it |
| 21:12.22 | marlowe | marks_distro-dep: not for free though |
| 21:12.28 | marks_distro-dep | how much? |
| 21:12.30 | marks_distro-dep | pm me |
| 21:12.31 | marks_distro-dep | or aim me |
| 21:12.36 | opus___ | durex - yes, sure. lemme look |
| 21:12.42 | marlowe | Same rate as a for-profit company. |
| 21:12.48 | marks_distro-dep | why? |
| 21:12.51 | fugitivo | kphone freezes, grrr |
| 21:13.00 | marlowe | need to put food in the stomach. |
| 21:13.08 | marks_distro-dep | aim me (marksnis) |
| 21:13.33 | marlowe | Theres no conversation that cant be made here... |
| 21:13.43 | marlowe | And btw I dont answer private messages. |
| 21:13.53 | cursor | neither do I :-) |
| 21:14.01 | glock | Whats your guys feeling on AMP. seems like a pain to install, so many things |
| 21:14.10 | marlowe | haha nice cursor |
| 21:14.14 | cursor | haha |
| 21:14.16 | marlowe | I dont notify people though :) |
| 21:14.19 | marks_distro-dep | Well ok |
| 21:14.31 | marks_distro-dep | will anyone do the pbx hing for a non-profit for really cheap? |
| 21:14.34 | cursor | try doing a ctcp time on me :-) |
| 21:14.37 | marks_distro-dep | marlowe- how much would it be? |
| 21:14.38 | Qwell | marks_distro-dep: explain what you need |
| 21:14.48 | marlowe | no your not |
| 21:15.00 | marlowe | marlowe: What do you need? |
| 21:15.02 | marlowe | Woah |
| 21:15.11 | marlowe | marks_distro-dep - What do you need? :) |
| 21:15.13 | marks_distro-dep | Well we are an non-profit who supports new users and diustributes linux to winhoes users and we need a small voicemailbox and maybe even an info line |
| 21:15.22 | marks_distro-dep | it wont get much bandwidth |
| 21:15.31 | Qwell | pstn connected, or what? |
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| 21:15.38 | marks_distro-dep | preferred |
| 21:15.41 | marks_distro-dep | or fwd |
| 21:15.51 | marlowe | Wait... |
| 21:15.52 | Qwell | just get a cheap prepaid provider |
| 21:16.00 | marlowe | You're willing to accept fwd calls only? |
| 21:16.03 | Qwell | I also don't respond to messages. |
| 21:16.07 | marks_distro-dep | well I dont have a box that can be always on and i dont wan t to mess with * |
| 21:16.08 | cursor | or get a "home" provider |
| 21:16.16 | cursor | They won't notice you if you have a small volume |
| 21:16.23 | marks_distro-dep | Well-- |
| 21:16.37 | cursor | and they'll probably supply the VM too |
| 21:16.48 | cursor | Just get an ATA from them |
| 21:16.50 | marlowe | Get Vonage - unlimited plan. :) |
| 21:16.53 | cursor | yes |
| 21:16.55 | cursor | like that |
| 21:17.04 | Qwell | bit expensive for something that small |
| 21:17.13 | marlowe | It's what... $25/mo? |
| 21:17.25 | cursor | or FWD :-) |
| 21:17.27 | marlowe | Then get voicepulse, it's a bit cheaper. voicepulse's consumer service is actually good. |
| 21:17.32 | marlowe | voicepulse connect sucks |
| 21:17.48 | cursor | VPC is better than it once was |
| 21:17.56 | cursor | Not that I make much use of it |
| 21:18.00 | marks_distro-dep | ok |
| 21:18.04 | cursor | I think they are #3 and #4 fallback |
| 21:18.06 | marlowe | Better, yes.. But still not good. |
| 21:18.12 | marks_distro-dep | well we will pay one of yall to host it all for us |
| 21:18.14 | marlowe | I think they are like #7 on my list |
| 21:18.28 | marks_distro-dep | we want to get it up on an FWD number, then we will get a DID from someone but it will be hosted on yalls server |
| 21:18.41 | marlowe | I don't get it marks.. |
| 21:18.45 | marlowe | If I were to charge you something |
| 21:18.50 | marlowe | It'd be more than $24.99/mo |
| 21:18.52 | marks_distro-dep | ... |
| 21:18.54 | marlowe | Vonage is only 24.99/mo |
| 21:18.57 | marlowe | Voicepulse is only 24.99/mo |
| 21:19.01 | cursor | IPKall |
| 21:19.03 | marks_distro-dep | ok then I dont want to go with u |
| 21:19.04 | marks_distro-dep | yea |
| 21:19.09 | marks_distro-dep | itd be with IPKall |
| 21:19.10 | marlowe | You can get a basic 500 plan where there is unlimited incoming for 14.99/mo |
| 21:19.14 | opus___ | marks -- i can do it for ya, i have a dedicated server that could answer a DID and extension |
| 21:19.21 | marks_distro-dep | we just dont know asterisk and dont have a box that can be on 24-7 |
| 21:19.38 | marks_distro-dep | opus, can you aim or PM me? |
| 21:19.51 | marlowe | Well it's not worth me nor my company < $24.99/mo. We'll pay more on support, setting up, bandwidth, etc. |
| 21:20.01 | marks_distro-dep | ok |
| 21:20.15 | opus___ | marks -- where are you located? |
| 21:20.36 | marks_distro-dep | Im in Austin, TX |
| 21:20.42 | opus___ | the server is in Canada |
| 21:20.45 | marlowe | Unfortunately, even for a non-profit organization - I don't see how anyone would/can do it for less. |
| 21:20.51 | Druken | canada? |
| 21:20.57 | Druken | canada is a big place :) |
| 21:21.07 | marlowe | Canada is tiny. |
| 21:21.09 | marlowe | hah |
| 21:21.14 | marlowe | Smaller than NJ |
| 21:21.29 | bhima | The _inhabited_ part is tiny... :) |
| 21:21.33 | Druken | shut it :) |
| 21:21.52 | bhima | (I don't count moose) |
| 21:22.20 | cursor | Don't talk with your mouth full |
| 21:22.21 | cursor | :-) |
| 21:22.26 | Druken | hehehe |
| 21:27.26 | p1tst0p | anyone got a guide for asterisk with only 1 IP address, usinc NAT or Masq or somet.. to be able to connect to a voip provider like sipgate... keep experienceing one way audio on outbound calls, and cant get incomming calls at all from sipgate... should i just enqire about another IP from my isp ? |
| 21:27.38 | file[laptop] | are you behind NAT? |
| 21:28.11 | p1tst0p | file[laptop], im on Cable, with a Astaro firewall serving the net in the house. |
| 21:28.20 | file[laptop] | okay so a firewall and NAT, there's your problem |
| 21:28.21 | cursor | getting another IP would be best - otherwise put the NAT on the Asterisk server |
| 21:28.33 | Jer13261 | like i said p1tst0p :) |
| 21:28.51 | glock | Anyone use AMP? Worth setting up? |
| 21:28.53 | brc_ | ~seen malcolmd |
| 21:28.58 | jbot | malcolmd is currently on #asterisk (1d 23h 37m 3s) |
| 21:29.06 | cursor | VOLT is better |
| 21:29.28 | bhima | Last time I was in the UK, I found a random 802.11 AP, and used it to do SIP calls. Next time I'm travelling, I'm going to set up a small computer with a cellphone, and use the discounted mobile/mobile rates most places have. |
| 21:29.36 | p1tst0p | yeh jer, i wasnt doubting u buddy, just wondered if anyone else had any ideas.. i wish i could run Astaro and Asterisk on the same box.. problem is Astaro is a disk install ;( arg. hmm |
| 21:29.53 | Jer13261 | install the REAL thing then |
| 21:30.11 | glock | two PCI TDM 400 cards should work fine in the same box right? |
| 21:30.15 | Jer13261 | i'll even help you if ya want |
| 21:30.34 | p1tst0p | yeh but i still probably cant get asterisk on the Astaro install surely.. could try mabe ! hmm. |
| 21:30.44 | *** join/#asterisk mogorman (~mogorman@pcp03051659pcs.huntsv01.al.comcast.net) |
| 21:30.51 | Jer13261 | ye you sure can |
| 21:30.58 | p1tst0p | can you ? |
| 21:31.07 | Jer13261 | sure i wont mind |
| 21:31.15 | Jer13261 | its my day off i have nothing better to do so why not |
| 21:32.54 | *** join/#asterisk DaLion (DaLion@Toronto-HSE-ppp3884214.sympatico.ca) |
| 21:33.11 | DaLion | whats the problem with IA ?.. man .. anyone have didsa from that state ? |
| 21:33.44 | marlowe | umm |
| 21:33.51 | marlowe | That was completely random. |
| 21:35.29 | cursor | http://www.iowatele.com/voip/ |
| 21:36.09 | DaLion | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/02/costa_rica_voip_criminals/ |
| 21:36.28 | cursor | Mine just read as "moose penis" |
| 21:36.31 | DaLion | ahahah man .. mafia again.. take control.. lets go friggin goverments.. |
| 21:37.02 | Druken | moose penis, or powered moose penis ? |
| 21:37.13 | DaLion | man .. im really pissed at nation mafia.. ( gov) taking over whatever the people who elect them do |
| 21:37.16 | Druken | er.. powdered moose penis.. my bad.. |
| 21:37.22 | DaLion | not sure that applies to costa .. but hey |
| 21:37.47 | Druken | mmm k... this isn't a government discussion group... |
| 21:38.43 | DaLion | its voip |
| 21:38.44 | DaLion | lol |
| 21:39.04 | DaLion | you giyus think the new cell vonage will offer is like a 7920 ? |
| 21:39.13 | Druken | it's a bird, a plane, no it's VOIP! |
| 21:39.41 | Druken | vonage is going to be offering cellular? |
| 21:39.43 | Druken | WTF? |
| 21:39.44 | cursor | Leaps over tall telcos with a single bound |
| 21:40.28 | *** join/#asterisk n0thing (marat@port-18.dialup-v90.e1-r2-number-1.cisco-as5300.ats-133.tps.uz) |
| 21:41.58 | *** join/#asterisk PBXtech (~nik@70-58-41-173.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 21:43.00 | PBXtech | will the putDB command add numbers together? ie someone calls up and enters 5, the previous number was 10 so now the new number becomes 15 |
| 21:43.06 | PBXtech | or do i have to use mysql |
| 21:44.55 | marlowe | haha yeah |
| 21:45.00 | marlowe | Druken: A combination cellular + voip |
| 21:45.13 | opus___ | where is the info about vonage cellular? |
| 21:45.15 | marlowe | I saw an extremely early beta test a couple months back |
| 21:45.17 | Qwell | That just seems like a bad idea |
| 21:45.22 | marlowe | I can't speak about it |
| 21:45.26 | marlowe | Dig on the internet.. Youll find it |
| 21:45.33 | Qwell | What're they gonna do, piggyback on other providers cell network? |
| 21:45.37 | marlowe | I dont wanna get punished by vonage |
| 21:45.37 | DaLion | no |
| 21:45.40 | DaLion | not cellular |
| 21:45.44 | DaLion | its WIFI |
| 21:45.49 | Qwell | Then its not a cell phone |
| 21:45.51 | opus___ | maybe they will use GPRS to send VOIP over 3000ms latency |
| 21:45.53 | DaLion | so a cell ( ahah phone like a cisco 7920) |
| 21:45.59 | marlowe | No daLion.. your wrong... |
| 21:46.07 | Cheesegoduk | Cellular, modular, interactive module, ring ring ring, banana phone .... |
| 21:46.08 | marlowe | It'll switch between wifi and cell where the is no wifi signal |
| 21:46.16 | Cheesegoduk | haha |
| 21:46.26 | PBXtech | your spreading the virus |
| 21:46.39 | marlowe | I must be. |
| 21:46.41 | DaLion | ????????????// |
| 21:46.50 | marlowe | I was never here. |
| 21:47.14 | DaLion | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.52 | Qwell | motion passes, cursor no longer exists. |
| 21:47.58 | sivana | heh |
| 21:48.51 | PBXtech | is there an agi script that i can send 2 numbers have them added and give me the results? |
| 21:49.30 | *** join/#asterisk AgiNamu (~jlksd@216.230.150.2) |
| 21:49.50 | sivana | hey |
| 21:49.55 | sivana | AgiNamu: you there foo |
| 21:50.00 | Qwell | PBXtech: You don't need agi for that |
| 21:50.14 | marlowe | DaLion: did you ever finish your sentence? |
| 21:50.23 | PBXtech | [Qwell]: how then |
| 21:50.32 | Qwell | one sec |
| 21:50.41 | Qwell | I know I saw something the other day, just trying to remember where |
| 21:50.47 | PBXtech | k |
| 21:50.52 | AgiNamu | Hey, how can I change 2 bytes in a file? |
| 21:51.08 | sivana | AgiNamu: rm -rfd *? |
| 21:51.10 | Qwell | PBXtech: look at README.variables |
| 21:51.40 | PBXtech | where is that |
| 21:51.46 | Qwell | SetVar,"lala=$[1 + 2]"; |
| 21:51.47 | sivana | I can't get session or cookies to work for some reason |
| 21:51.48 | Qwell | basically |
| 21:51.58 | Qwell | PBXtech: in the asterisk source, under docs/ |
| 21:52.13 | PBXtech | thx |
| 21:52.54 | cursor | agi: use an editor |
| 21:52.58 | PBXtech | awesoem |
| 21:53.31 | Qwell | PBXtech: That what you needed? |
| 21:53.48 | PBXtech | that will work, thanks! |
| 21:53.52 | opus___ | This irc script i'm running is retarted |
| 21:53.52 | Qwell | great |
| 21:53.56 | Qwell | whois me for paypal information :p |
| 21:54.05 | PBXtech | <snicker> |
| 21:54.11 | marlowe | lol |
| 21:54.16 | cripito | LOL |
| 21:54.17 | cursor | <mars> |
| 21:54.18 | AgiNamu | cusor, from bash |
| 21:54.24 | AgiNamu | like, I have an offset and a value |
| 21:54.31 | *** join/#asterisk PoWeRKiLL (~PoWeRKiLL@l02m-4-165.d4.club-internet.fr) |
| 21:54.32 | cursor | sed |
| 21:54.40 | cursor | ed, ex, perl |
| 21:54.41 | cursor | etc. |
| 21:54.51 | cursor | I suppose it depends what you want to edit |
| 21:54.52 | marlowe | Ok I'm starting to type /me in AIM |
| 21:54.57 | AgiNamu | cursor, binary file |
| 21:55.04 | Qwell | marlowe: I like gaim, because it works :p |
| 21:55.09 | AgiNamu | I want to set teh values of a byte at a specific offset in the fie. |
| 21:55.24 | marlowe | Qwell: Well it only works on your side :) |
| 21:55.34 | marlowe | heh |
| 21:55.35 | cursor | Perl will work |
| 21:55.37 | Qwell | I don't see their side, I don't care. :p |
| 21:55.39 | cursor | they all will work |
| 21:55.45 | Blackvel | who has used asterisk-java lib for FastAGI yet? |
| 21:56.09 | AgiNamu | cursor, but i gotta know perl and lke make a script |
| 21:56.16 | AgiNamu | can't patch handle that kinda thing? |
| 21:56.38 | cursor | patch might be able to do it |
| 21:56.40 | cursor | I'm not sure |
| 21:56.56 | AgiNamu | so there's nothing like DOS's "debug" app? |
| 21:57.02 | fugitivo | what if my soundcard doesn't support fullduplex? |
| 21:57.07 | cursor | There probably is |
| 21:57.09 | cursor | what's DOS? |
| 21:57.10 | cursor | :-) |
| 21:57.30 | marlowe | So anyone that has tmobile be aware that they turned off pasword protetion on voicemail by default. |
| 21:57.55 | AgiNamu | marlowe, ut they use caller id!! :) |
| 21:57.58 | marlowe | I sent them a nasty letter, good thing I dont use them for voice. |
| 21:58.06 | cripito | aginamu :D |
| 21:58.12 | marlowe | AgiNamu: and caller id means what this day and age? |
| 21:58.19 | *** join/#asterisk HjemmeRoyK (~roy@143.80-202-166.nextgentel.com) |
| 21:58.32 | cripito | not... but if u use a combination of gdb and sed maybe u can do something like that |
| 21:58.35 | AgiNamu | thats why i put a :) |
| 21:58.41 | sivana | how do I tell which codec I'm using on a channel |
| 21:58.44 | AgiNamu | I wrote a caler id spoofing system |
| 21:58.53 | AgiNamu | sivana, from where? |
| 21:58.55 | marlowe | AgiNamu: I wrote one years ago |
| 21:58.57 | marlowe | :) |
| 21:58.57 | sivana | show channel |
| 21:59.01 | elriah | Is there any linux distro that has packages built in with asterisk and zaptel? |
| 21:59.03 | cripito | :D |
| 21:59.08 | sivana | I want to see what the codec the call is on |
| 21:59.17 | marlowe | show channel <channel name> |
| 21:59.24 | sivana | I did that... don't see it |
| 21:59.56 | cursor | elriah: building Asterisk is only a small part of it |
| 21:59.59 | cursor | you have to configure it |
| 22:00.03 | NormAst | Rapid ISO |
| 22:00.08 | cursor | so you might as well install it from src to get used to it |
| 22:00.12 | Qwell | HjemmeRoyK: You want g.Qwell, which I can license to you. |
| 22:00.17 | elriah | heh - tnx |
| 22:00.17 | cursor | get used to where things are |
| 22:00.23 | HjemmeRoyK | Qwell: hehe |
| 22:00.44 | marlowe | hmm wait i thought that showed it |
| 22:00.51 | marlowe | another brain lapse here |
| 22:01.08 | cursor | Gentoo appears to have an Asterisk ebuild |
| 22:01.14 | marlowe | there it is |
| 22:01.15 | marlowe | im turning blind |
| 22:01.20 | cursor | I'm a Gentoo user, but I don't use that ebuild |
| 22:01.20 | marlowe | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.20 | marlowe | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.20 | marlowe | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.20 | marlowe | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.24 | cursor | so I can't comment |
| 22:01.24 | marlowe | Look for TYPE |
| 22:01.33 | Primer | Anyone here use broadvoice? |
| 22:01.34 | marlowe | Now that I just accidently posted my # for everyone. |
| 22:01.44 | sivana | type: Zap |
| 22:01.46 | Qwell | marlowe: I think he wanted codec |
| 22:01.49 | marlowe | Woops |
| 22:01.51 | NormAst | Okay.. Let's all call it.. |
| 22:01.53 | NormAst | HA HA HA |
| 22:01.53 | sivana | that's not it |
| 22:01.53 | cursor | Primer: No, you're the first :-) |
| 22:01.56 | Qwell | NormAst: already am |
| 22:02.03 | NormAst | HA HA.. |
| 22:02.03 | marlowe | I knew that too |
| 22:02.04 | marlowe | lol |
| 22:02.06 | NormAst | me too! |
| 22:02.20 | Primer | I'm actually going through their signup form, and I can't get passed this one step...seems that their form isn't well tested on "alternative browsers" such as mozilla on Linux |
| 22:02.20 | HjemmeRoyK | ~using packages? |
| 22:02.32 | Primer | cursor: well, they can provide me a local number |
| 22:02.41 | cripito | :D |
| 22:02.46 | Primer | and they're willing to allow me to use asterisk |
| 22:02.48 | cripito | i use broadvoice too |
| 22:02.49 | Qwell | Primer: BV doesn't work with * too well |
| 22:02.57 | Qwell | People are constantly coming in here complaining. |
| 22:03.06 | Primer | Qwell: so what does? |
| 22:03.17 | Primer | one that can provide me a local number |
| 22:03.22 | Qwell | might try teliax |
| 22:03.29 | marlowe | Anyway, to show codec do a iax2 show channels or sip show channels |
| 22:03.46 | HjemmeRoyK | jbot: using packages is not recommended. get the asterisk source from http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=download and compile them |
| 22:03.47 | jbot | okay, HjemmeRoyK |
| 22:03.48 | marlowe | under the Format column, and I verified to make sure. :) |
| 22:03.51 | HjemmeRoyK | ~using packages? |
| 22:03.52 | jbot | using packages is, like, not recommended. get the asterisk source from http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=download and compile them |
| 22:03.57 | Primer | Qwell: thanks |
| 22:03.57 | cripito | i have 11 did from broadvoice no problems so far |
| 22:04.10 | Qwell | Primer: Tell them Qwell sent you. :p |
| 22:04.16 | Qwell | Not that they would have ANY idea who I am. |
| 22:04.20 | marlowe | lol |
| 22:04.21 | elriah | cripito: How's the quality? |
| 22:04.26 | cripito | quality is good. |
| 22:04.38 | Qwell | quality is good...when it works |
| 22:04.55 | cripito | well till the moment i don't have any problems.. |
| 22:04.58 | Qwell | once a week, we have "broadvoice day" |
| 22:04.58 | dontmsgme | Does broadvoice give you DIDs from any state in the US |
| 22:05.01 | cripito | :D |
| 22:05.04 | cripito | YES aboutt aht |
| 22:05.06 | cripito | that |
| 22:05.08 | marlowe | dontmsgme - pretty much |
| 22:05.27 | cripito | 1 funny thing about BV |
| 22:05.42 | *** join/#asterisk sob0l (~peter@uo166.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 22:05.44 | cripito | anyone have being able 2 get answer from the support :D |
| 22:05.52 | cripito | ? |
| 22:06.00 | marlowe | Broadvoice answered my support question |
| 22:06.06 | marlowe | I asked them if they supported a full refund |
| 22:06.09 | cripito | by email or buy phone call? |
| 22:06.10 | marlowe | They said yes.. :) |
| 22:06.11 | cursor | haha |
| 22:06.12 | AgiNamu | sheesh, stay the fuck away from the #linux rooms. heh. |
| 22:06.25 | cripito | by... |
| 22:06.25 | marlowe | By email |
| 22:06.25 | marlowe | took a week |
| 22:06.29 | Qwell | AgiNamu: #linux on efnet is bad too, heh |
| 22:06.31 | AgiNamu | ask about a built=in editor and say you dont want to instal another app and they go ballistic. retards. |
| 22:06.35 | cripito | :D try 2 phone :P |
| 22:06.59 | cursor | What did you do in #linux? Did you say "MSDOS rocks" or something? |
| 22:07.05 | marlowe | I was in no rush to get my money back so I emailed :) And I'll never deal with them again so doesnt matter. |
| 22:07.21 | NormAst | Does realtime support Voicemail Notification(sp) now ? |
| 22:07.26 | marlowe | MSDOS does rock |
| 22:07.29 | *** join/#asterisk docein2 (~albert@red-corp-200.79.146.171.telnor.net) |
| 22:07.30 | cursor | and roll |
| 22:07.35 | cursor | and fall over |
| 22:07.35 | sivana | marlowe: ya, had to do it on sip show channel <channel> |
| 22:07.38 | sivana | thanks |
| 22:07.41 | cripito | is working fine now.. but .... |
| 22:07.44 | marlowe | sivana: haha, no problem. |
| 22:07.52 | sivana | complaining of choppy on g8729 |
| 22:07.59 | marlowe | g8729?? |
| 22:08.05 | cursor | g8729 is choppy, yes |
| 22:08.06 | sivana | g729 |
| 22:08.08 | marlowe | :) |
| 22:08.09 | sivana | :) |
| 22:08.09 | cursor | :-) |
| 22:08.13 | marlowe | lol |
| 22:08.19 | cripito | any way.. i am still trying 2 get a did from teliax 2 work. |
| 22:08.20 | cursor | Used at the G8 summit |
| 22:08.40 | sivana | hehe |
| 22:08.50 | marks_distro-dep | CAN SOMEONE HERE HELP ME WITH A PHP ERROR IM GETTING? |
| 22:08.53 | Blackvel | what is the best windows tool to checkout sources from CVS onto a windows pc? |
| 22:09.03 | Qwell | Blackvel: cvs |
| 22:09.03 | elriah | Man, via epia mainboards run debian well ... I'm really impressed ... |
| 22:09.03 | cursor | I CAN HELP YOU FIND YOUR CAPSLOCK IF YOU LIKE |
| 22:09.10 | Blackvel | writing in caps might not help here :) |
| 22:09.10 | NormAst | sure /join php |
| 22:09.14 | Blackvel | haha |
| 22:09.25 | Blackvel | Qwell: cvs? is there a win-cvs client too? |
| 22:09.27 | PTG123 | remap your capslock to control like a real man would |
| 22:09.30 | Qwell | Blackvel: yes |
| 22:09.40 | Blackvel | I am too tired to use my linux server and ftp it from there to my windows pc :) |
| 22:09.47 | Blackvel | Qwell: oks, i'll try google |
| 22:09.55 | Qwell | In fact, I think the tool is called "wincvs" |
| 22:10.13 | cripito | marks_distro-dep: shot away.. |
| 22:10.15 | Qwell | There's also tortoise, which is good I hear. I've used tortoise svn, but I know there's one for cvs too |
| 22:11.07 | Blackvel | oh |
| 22:11.10 | Blackvel | i have lincvs |
| 22:11.12 | Blackvel | i almost forgot :) |
| 22:11.25 | marlowe | Simpletelecom responds to support questions faster than any company but the answers they give is complete bull and id rather be ignored |
| 22:11.32 | cursor | This IRC session was brought to you by the letter T and the number 8 |
| 22:11.38 | marlowe | This little venture of trying simpleconnect has led to be terrible |
| 22:12.15 | cripito | simpletelecom quality some times is..... |
| 22:12.30 | marlowe | I'm trying them for inbound right now.. |
| 22:12.35 | marlowe | I am registering correctly. |
| 22:12.44 | marlowe | But I just get a busy when dialing my DID. |
| 22:12.51 | marlowe | Support keeeps pushing the blame on me. |
| 22:13.04 | cripito | ok let see.... wanna compare my setup with me? |
| 22:13.10 | marlowe | When.. Although I know how to do it myself.. I cut+paste from THERE GUIDE |
| 22:13.20 | bhima | Remmap your caps-lock key to sudo rm -rf / |
| 22:13.21 | marlowe | So, if anyone is wrong.. No matter what, it's them. |
| 22:13.22 | cripito | :D |
| 22:13.25 | cripito | LOL |
| 22:13.42 | marlowe | I purposely did those caps lock, thank you very much bhima |
| 22:14.05 | cursor | and purposely used THERE instead of THEIR ? |
| 22:14.12 | marlowe | cursor Yup |
| 22:14.13 | marlowe | lol |
| 22:14.41 | marlowe | Did I mention I failed english? |
| 22:14.50 | cursor | haha |
| 22:15.13 | Blackvel | cool |
| 22:15.14 | Blackvel | it worked |
| 22:15.16 | marlowe | lol |
| 22:15.17 | Blackvel | thnx qwell |
| 22:15.23 | cursor | brb... |
| 22:15.28 | marks_distro-dep | anyne care to share their DID so i can check out the cool PBXs |
| 22:15.29 | marks_distro-dep | ? |
| 22:15.29 | AgiNamu | i think digium doesnt care if people crack the activation for g729 |
| 22:15.36 | marlowe | AgiNamu: Yes, they do. |
| 22:15.40 | marlowe | It's how they make money. |
| 22:15.47 | AgiNamu | their code doesnt reflect that. |
| 22:15.49 | marks_distro-dep | Ive Talkes to Mark, the creator of Asterisk, hes cool |
| 22:16.07 | marlowe | Yes, Mark is cool.. quite cool indeed. |
| 22:16.08 | AgiNamu | most freeware programs have tougher protection :P |
| 22:16.09 | NormAst | Hmm.. I've never talked to mark :( |
| 22:16.15 | Qwell | NormAst: :p |
| 22:16.17 | AgiNamu | mark's a genius as far as i can tell. |
| 22:16.25 | marlowe | But just because hes cool doesnt mean he doesnt like people cracking his code. |
| 22:16.26 | marks_distro-dep | yea |
| 22:16.31 | tzanger | Pedro offers you his protection |
| 22:16.36 | Qwell | tzanger: haha |
| 22:16.41 | AgiNamu | marowe, of course he doesnt WANT you to |
| 22:16.42 | NormAst | I wish I could program as well as he can... hmmmm.. |
| 22:16.52 | *** part/#asterisk marks_distro-dep (MarkS@m198214185213.austincc.edu) |
| 22:17.03 | AgiNamu | I;n just saying, they could take a bit more care in their code, to make it so that a newbie |
| 22:17.10 | sivana | AgiNamu: have you used a repeater control before? |
| 22:17.11 | AgiNamu | couldnt crack it in about 3 minutes :) |
| 22:17.19 | AgiNamu | yea.... a while ago |
| 22:17.25 | AgiNamu | dont remember much offhand. |
| 22:17.38 | NormAst | Tznager: Did you just watch that movie? |
| 22:17.51 | NormAst | PPV. |
| 22:18.21 | tzanger | NormAst: no I watched it about 2 or 3 weeks ago on ppv |
| 22:18.36 | tzanger | it was strange, I didnt really like the movie but I couldnt' take my eyes off it |
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| 22:19.02 | NormAst | tzanger: My kids loved it... me... naw... |
| 22:19.30 | tzanger | I didn't get it |
| 22:19.30 | tzanger | how old are your kids? |
| 22:19.31 | NormAst | 14 / 17 |
| 22:19.44 | tzanger | wow I'm pretty much a decade behind you there |
| 22:20.05 | NormAst | Wife's first marrage... |
| 22:20.16 | NormAst | Plus she's older.. :) |
| 22:20.17 | AgiNamu | id have least expected an encrypted loader :P |
| 22:20.30 | tzanger | NormAst: heh. my first marriage too |
| 22:20.41 | tzanger | might inherit a couple more |
| 22:21.02 | tzanger | wow congrats bhima |
| 22:21.05 | Qwell | bhima: I've got you beat by 5 weeks :p |
| 22:21.24 | tzanger | congrats to Qwell too |
| 22:21.41 | Cheesegoduk | haha |
| 22:21.44 | tzanger | that's the best part |
| 22:22.25 | marlowe | You've all got me beat. |
| 22:22.50 | marlowe | I graduate middle school soon... |
| 22:22.58 | sivana | heh |
| 22:23.02 | tzanger | marlowe: heh |
| 22:23.03 | marlowe | Actually, I'm 22 |
| 22:23.07 | tzanger | it's been a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time there |
| 22:23.27 | marlowe | No kids..Luckily, for now. |
| 22:23.27 | bhima | marlowe: you're 22 and still haven't gotten out of middle school? |
| 22:23.30 | marlowe | haha |
| 22:23.33 | marlowe | unfortunately. |
| 22:23.34 | marlowe | lol |
| 22:23.42 | bhima | I think you've got _us_ beat. And not in a good way... |
| 22:23.50 | marlowe | I enjoy middle school.. what can I say? |
| 22:23.52 | NormAst | 34...going on 35... :) |
| 22:23.54 | Wonka | marlowe: you're a teacher or a student? |
| 22:24.05 | AgiNamu | school? whats that? |
| 22:24.06 | marlowe | Wonka: haha |
| 22:24.06 | NormAst | April 28... Bring gifts.. |
| 22:24.29 | cripito | <--- april 21 normast ;) |
| 22:24.34 | tzanger | heh |
| 22:24.36 | tzanger | may 5 here |
| 22:24.39 | tzanger | and 29 |
| 22:24.52 | Qwell | old men |
| 22:24.58 | cripito | :( 37 :P |
| 22:25.02 | Cheesegoduk | 18 :D |
| 22:25.07 | Wonka | 24 |
| 22:25.23 | marlowe | Ok, at least I'm not the youngest. |
| 22:25.24 | bhima | 29 or so. |
| 22:25.33 | Qwell | bhima: "or so"? |
| 22:25.37 | cripito | :P i feel like grand pa |
| 22:25.41 | bhima | I can't do math |
| 22:25.45 | NormAst | I remember when I was 24... Make collect calls from one pay phone to another and accepting the charges.. |
| 22:25.45 | marlowe | bhima: lol |
| 22:25.54 | marlowe | And your making fun of me for still being in middle school?? |
| 22:25.59 | NormAst | You think the operator would realize it was the same voice. |
| 22:26.09 | Qwell | NormAst: wtf for? :p |
| 22:26.11 | marlowe | I used to do 3rd party billing |
| 22:26.11 | Wonka | nearly 35 years old, and a kid of 17 - early start... |
| 22:26.20 | marlowe | amazing how the telco didnt get permission from the 3rd party |
| 22:26.22 | bhima | marlowe: I was provably able to do math in the past :P |
| 22:26.25 | Qwell | marlowe: 3rd party billing was great |
| 22:26.27 | NormAst | 3rd paty calling.. Called my mom for Free! |
| 22:26.47 | marlowe | Qwell: I was let's see 14 or 15 when I discovered that... |
| 22:26.52 | NormAst | 10 years later...still sitckin' it to Bell! |
| 22:26.54 | Qwell | marlowe: about the same |
| 22:26.55 | marlowe | The phone company found out |
| 22:27.04 | marlowe | Parents got a ill for like 5,000 |
| 22:27.04 | Qwell | I never used an operator for that. |
| 22:27.12 | marlowe | lol |
| 22:27.13 | Qwell | and always from a payphone |
| 22:27.27 | marlowe | Well I was at sleepaway camp |
| 22:27.30 | Qwell | 10102880 was it? |
| 22:27.32 | marlowe | had to get on the internet |
| 22:27.36 | Jer13261 | yep |
| 22:27.37 | Jer13261 | lol |
| 22:27.44 | Jer13261 | att |
| 22:27.50 | marlowe | lol yeah at&t |
| 22:29.00 | marlowe | I wonder if the person I'm talking to from simpletelecom support is in here. |
| 22:29.10 | Qwell | ask him |
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| 22:29.15 | marlowe | Instead of me waiting 2 hours for a response.. He can just respond here |
| 22:29.23 | marlowe | I kind of just did.. lol, he would recognize my name |
| 22:29.26 | cursor | Leave AT&T alone - they created UNIX :-) |
| 22:29.32 | marlowe | Is there an Adam Loghry here? |
| 22:29.37 | marlowe | I bet it's a fake name. |
| 22:30.12 | *** part/#asterisk DaLion (DaLion@Toronto-HSE-ppp3884214.sympatico.ca) |
| 22:30.17 | cripito | guys question... any have any experience with avop direct? |
| 22:30.32 | cursor | not me |
| 22:30.39 | marlowe | not me either |
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| 22:30.43 | cursor | it sounds painful |
| 22:31.06 | marlowe | I've heard of them... |
| 22:31.11 | cripito | cursor: till now yes... :( www.avop.net |
| 22:31.20 | cripito | good or bad? |
| 22:31.36 | marlowe | Well nt much- i believe they dont support IAX... |
| 22:31.42 | cripito | not.. |
| 22:31.46 | cripito | sip/h323 |
| 22:31.54 | *** join/#asterisk DaLion (DaLion@Toronto-HSE-ppp3884214.sympatico.ca) |
| 22:31.54 | cripito | but i am looking a route that is not easy 2 find |
| 22:32.00 | marlowe | And didn't have good rates :) So I never tried them.. I knew of someone that used them |
| 22:32.03 | cripito | specially at a decent price |
| 22:32.06 | marlowe | They didn't complain |
| 22:32.10 | DaLion | anyone know the link for pinnaple phone ? or any source code i can use for SIP softphone ? |
| 22:33.36 | cursor | Pineapples are not soft |
| 22:33.45 | cursor | Well, they are in the middle |
| 22:33.59 | psywar | any tips on configuring FWD for *? |
| 22:34.05 | cursor | but not if you lob one at someone's head - dodgeball-style |
| 22:34.09 | psywar | that I should know before I try |
| 22:34.10 | Qwell | psywar: Its on the wiki |
| 22:34.11 | tzanger | so what you're saying is that a pineapple phone is a softphone? :) |
| 22:34.16 | tzanger | mmmmmmmmm pineapple juice |
| 22:34.19 | tzanger | I love that stuff |
| 22:34.20 | psywar | Qwell: k ty |
| 22:34.37 | DaLion | pcalls.com |
| 22:35.02 | DaLion | they have pineapple title in phone |
| 22:35.10 | AgiNamu | well, im in a small internet cafe in the mountains of guatemaa |
| 22:35.17 | AgiNamu | so ill go now i think. |
| 22:35.32 | DaLion | Agi |
| 22:35.35 | AgiNamu | dalion |
| 22:35.36 | DaLion | aint it illegal now ? |
| 22:35.41 | AgiNamu | what is illegal? |
| 22:35.42 | DaLion | a guatemala |
| 22:35.47 | DaLion | tought u said panama |
| 22:35.50 | AgiNamu | guatemala is illegal? |
| 22:35.53 | DaLion | Voip |
| 22:35.58 | AgiNamu | costa rica is passing laws |
| 22:36.02 | AgiNamu | the local telco does too |
| 22:36.03 | DaLion | panama and costa it seems are passing laws |
| 22:36.03 | psywar | Qwell: www.voip-info.org wiki? what entry? 109 hits |
| 22:36.08 | AgiNamu | they try to sue you for fraud |
| 22:36.11 | Qwell | psywar: dunno |
| 22:36.15 | AgiNamu | or thats what their contracts sayu |
| 22:36.18 | Qwell | the instructions are also on the fwd site |
| 22:36.20 | AgiNamu | bunch of back-asswards idiots. |
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| 22:36.26 | Druken | passing laws for what ? |
| 22:36.29 | Druken | to ban voip ? |
| 22:36.35 | cursor | Well, I suppose costa rica need one law at least |
| 22:37.00 | bhima | They get lots of money from international phone calls. |
| 22:37.03 | cursor | Perhaps they'll ban murder next |
| 22:37.15 | welby | cursor : don't be silly :P |
| 22:37.16 | DannyF | cursor, NAAAh no money in that ;) |
| 22:37.30 | cursor | hitmen would protest |
| 22:37.47 | welby | and thats one group you definatly don't wantto protest |
| 22:38.02 | DannyF | well it would be good if they went on strike ,) |
| 22:38.15 | cursor | Perhaps if murder was leagalised and hitmen paid taxes, the murder rate would go down, while the quality would go up |
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| 22:38.23 | DannyF | hehe |
| 22:38.49 | blankman | hey guys. |
| 22:39.02 | cursor | hello |
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| 22:39.13 | DannyF | having an argument with latest HEAD *... seams it ignores my nat=yes & port=xxxx's |
| 22:39.15 | DannyF | yay |
| 22:39.51 | DannyF | ah the little oddities that make life worth while eh |
| 22:40.04 | cripito | costa rica and ecuador are a pain in the dirty part for voip.. |
| 22:40.26 | DannyF | telco tules i guess |
| 22:40.32 | DannyF | rules* |
| 22:40.34 | cripito | and cuba :D |
| 22:40.47 | chapeaurouge | just read on asterisk... and asterisk@home... is asterisk also supporting some kind of GUI configuration tool? |
| 22:41.00 | AgiNamu | telco monopolies and retarded governments |
| 22:41.08 | DannyF | they prolly havent leartn how to snoop voip calls yet |
| 22:41.10 | AgiNamu | actually, overall, just general incompetency in most people. |
| 22:41.30 | cripito | agree |
| 22:41.30 | AgiNamu | horrible education, dumbass universities. the whole country is fucked. voip is the least of their issues. |
| 22:41.44 | AgiNamu | no offence to anyone from there :P |
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| 22:41.50 | DannyF | chapeaurouge, there are a bunch |
| 22:42.15 | chapeaurouge | are they windows specific? (hope not) |
| 22:42.20 | DannyF | a few |
| 22:42.20 | cripito | and in british virgin island is illegal too.. :) they even move the voip priority to the last so vonage and other don't work :D |
| 22:42.24 | cursor | Agi: I can see you were being careful to avoid offence |
| 22:42.28 | DannyF | most are webbased |
| 22:42.34 | AgiNamu | cursor, yea, real carefu :) |
| 22:42.37 | chapeaurouge | DannyF, cool. thanks |
| 22:42.37 | cursor | :-) |
| 22:42.44 | DannyF | np |
| 22:42.52 | AgiNamu | I *USED* to be politicaly correct and polite, like 7 years ago |
| 22:42.55 | AgiNamu | when i first came here. |
| 22:43.08 | DannyF | AgiNamu, now you learnt the proper way ;)) |
| 22:43.09 | AgiNamu | after 7 years, I realised things ARE fucked, and its just the truth. :) |
| 22:43.18 | cripito | well i live in cuba for 34 years.. so i as politically correct TOO :P |
| 22:43.32 | AgiNamu | Oh, Cuba's PSTN is beautiful. |
| 22:43.35 | AgiNamu | :) |
| 22:43.45 | cripito | :D je... |
| 22:43.54 | bhima | They lower the priority of illegal traffic? WHy not, umm, just block it? |
| 22:43.56 | AgiNamu | come on! I get ASR up to 10% sometimeS!!!! |
| 22:43.57 | cursor | No shortage of baked bean tins in that PSTN system |
| 22:44.12 | cursor | just keep the string tight |
| 22:44.26 | AgiNamu | i find that ASR is calculated including FAS and IVR answers :P |
| 22:44.38 | bhima | I lived in Istanbul in '87/88. Their PSTN system was...well. I think they literally did string new wires to the CO for each customers. |
| 22:44.41 | apignard | Hello, is there a way to get SIP response codes ? |
| 22:44.53 | cursor | yes - use SIP |
| 22:44.58 | AgiNamu | here, the electricians dont even know what ground is for. |
| 22:45.12 | cursor | walking |
| 22:45.16 | AgiNamu | I begged to get a ground line in , and the guy said "why the hell do you want that? I can do it, but it doesnt do anything." |
| 22:45.25 | cripito | well the guys that work for telcos in cuba are good.. the problem is another... |
| 22:45.45 | AgiNamu | here there are very very few engineers. |
| 22:45.51 | AgiNamu | uh, good engineers. |
| 22:45.53 | bhima | agi: we had one bare and one insulated wire in our apartment... |
| 22:45.55 | AgiNamu | there's tons of "engineers" |
| 22:45.59 | AgiNamu | lol |
| 22:46.01 | bhima | cause, I mean, insulting both was too expensive. |
| 22:46.05 | AgiNamu | sounds like my old house. The mains crossed. |
| 22:46.10 | AgiNamu | bew up my upses. |
| 22:46.18 | cursor | ouch |
| 22:46.25 | bhima | we had a surge protector blow up. |
| 22:46.28 | AgiNamu | at least the landlady covered the expenses. |
| 22:46.35 | AgiNamu | sigh. it is so damn hard to do things right? |
| 22:46.48 | bhima | by "blow up", I mean it emitted smoke and scorched the table. |
| 22:47.06 | AgiNamu | yep, fire , blue lightning, and that terrifying "fuck your computer" electric buzz |
| 22:47.26 | AgiNamu | i had it happen twice. but the second time was cause I poured water on the UPS. |
| 22:47.38 | AgiNamu | by accident of course. :) |
| 22:47.43 | Qwell | sure, sure ;] |
| 22:47.46 | cursor | You should have paid extra for the waterproof UPS |
| 22:47.54 | Blackvel | wow |
| 22:48.07 | Blackvel | finally my PDA has some english dictionary with a great software keyboard :) |
| 22:48.17 | blankman | Hey, so can someone answer this question for me? I am trying to figure when the dial status is returned from a dial? |
| 22:48.29 | AgiNamu | blankman, all the time....? |
| 22:48.41 | AgiNamu | should be in the chanvar DIALSTATUS |
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| 22:49.13 | cursor | Right - that's me out of here |
| 22:49.22 | AgiNamu | vya |
| 22:49.36 | cursor | I'm off to watch something recorded on MythTV, which shows Caller*ID data sent from Asterisk, btw |
| 22:49.57 | cursor | I display Caller*ID on lots of devices at home now |
| 22:50.05 | PTG123 | heh |
| 22:50.13 | PTG123 | i can display caller id on my phone :) |
| 22:50.14 | cursor | SlimServer clients too |
| 22:50.23 | Qwell | my fridge tells me whos calling |
| 22:50.26 | Qwell | and when I'm out of milk |
| 22:50.27 | blankman | Umm ... yeah, but the question is I execute the dial command, then the call is "bridged", but we aren't returned to the call flow are we? |
| 22:50.30 | cursor | Oh - phone - I forgot about those |
| 22:50.32 | PTG123 | Qwell: fancy fridge |
| 22:50.36 | Qwell | not really |
| 22:50.40 | blankman | Am I missing a switch of the dial command? |
| 22:50.43 | Qwell | somebody writes it down on the whiteboard |
| 22:50.45 | PTG123 | Qwell: my fridge doesn't even tell me the ime :) |
| 22:50.46 | PTG123 | heh |
| 22:50.48 | marlowe | haha |
| 22:50.57 | bkw_ | ok anyone have more rtp clue than I |
| 22:50.58 | Qwell | "North, bob called - 555-1212" |
| 22:51.03 | marlowe | My tv has a fridge in it |
| 22:51.03 | PTG123 | hah |
| 22:51.04 | marlowe | wait |
| 22:51.08 | marlowe | my fridge has a tv in it |
| 22:51.13 | Jer13261 | i've seeen those |
| 22:51.18 | cursor | Your TV has an advert for a fridge |
| 22:51.18 | Jer13261 | they aer cool |
| 22:51.22 | blankman | cursor: what are you using for your mythtv capture card? |
| 22:51.23 | PTG123 | why would you want to stand in front of a fridge watching tv |
| 22:51.26 | bsdfreak | heh |
| 22:51.30 | cursor | PVR-250 |
| 22:51.33 | cursor | x 4 |
| 22:51.34 | Qwell | PTG123: I always thought that was amusing |
| 22:51.36 | marlowe | I got a good price |
| 22:51.39 | marlowe | That's why :) |
| 22:51.41 | bsdfreak | heh |
| 22:51.46 | blankman | cursor: you tried the pchdtv card? |
| 22:51.54 | PTG123 | now maybe my microwave would be cool, thats overtop the stove where i am always cooking |
| 22:51.57 | bsdfreak | i'd rather have a fridge that has a death clock |
| 22:51.58 | Qwell | PTG123: maybe cooking shows or something... |
| 22:51.59 | cursor | I can't get HDTV in my area yet |
| 22:52.07 | cursor | I'm lucky to get running water |
| 22:52.14 | bkw_ | haha |
| 22:52.15 | Blackvel | i am off, night |
| 22:52.16 | blankman | cursor: I have beein trying to get it running for a little bit now, but keep getting hung up on stupid SUSE stuff :-( |
| 22:52.17 | Qwell | tv microwave...that could be done. Just put a flatpanel on the outside |
| 22:52.20 | bkw_ | I can get HDTV via satellite |
| 22:52.25 | Qwell | and, have a button so you can see inside the microwave |
| 22:52.35 | Qwell | little camera inside, watching your food...heh |
| 22:52.43 | PTG123 | qwell: yes but i am not geeky enough to go through the trouble |
| 22:52.52 | cursor | I have my tinfoil hat on to protect me from those sattilite mind control devices :-) |
| 22:53.00 | marlowe | Who cares about whats in the microwave? Forget the camera |
| 22:53.03 | PTG123 | besides i would need a tivo there too |
| 22:53.10 | Qwell | tivo your cooking, just in case? |
| 22:53.16 | Qwell | rewird live...cooking |
| 22:53.27 | PTG123 | heh i can't watch tv without tvivo any more.. i can't watch commercials |
| 22:53.30 | PTG123 | tivo has ruind me |
| 22:53.30 | Qwell | "omg, honey, did you see that?! *rewind*" |
| 22:53.56 | Qwell | "Now lets put it on slow motion. You can see the exact time the potatoes started boiling" |
| 22:54.00 | marlowe | I dont have tivo any more since my cable company came out with an integrated dvr |
| 22:54.10 | marlowe | But the tivotogo service looks cool |
| 22:54.12 | cursor | "omg, honney, did you see that?" "Yes, I did - last week when it showed live" |
| 22:54.18 | blankman | Jer13261: your what? |
| 22:54.24 | Jer13261 | tivo :) |
| 22:54.24 | PTG123 | marlowe: i have integrated dvr too, but it doesn't come close to the features of tivo.. however it can record 2 things at once which is cool |
| 22:54.35 | cursor | MythTV |
| 22:54.39 | PTG123 | tivo2go is 1gig per 30minutes though :) |
| 22:54.46 | PTG123 | tivo2go: but it is cool |
| 22:54.50 | blankman | Switch to myth ... it is easy if you use the PVR-250 or PVR-350 cards. |
| 22:54.51 | NormAst | I missed my TIVO? Canada Suck! |
| 22:54.52 | marlowe | When I got my integrated DVR I just threw out the tivo.. I wasnt a fan of it. I prefer my DVR |
| 22:54.52 | cursor | pounds tivo into dust |
| 22:54.57 | PTG123 | my little usb adapter gets overloaded |
| 22:54.58 | NormAst | Canadian TV Sucks! |
| 22:55.08 | PTG123 | marlowe: who is your cable company? |
| 22:55.12 | Jer13261 | well i wanna make use of the free cable i get |
| 22:55.13 | marlowe | Cablevision |
| 22:55.32 | marlowe | aka interactive optimum |
| 22:55.32 | PTG123 | marlowe: does yours do stupid things like if you play a show thats currently recording it starts from the position its at? |
| 22:55.36 | blankman | NormAst: you actually have it easier than we in the states do ... you can become your own "cable" provider for .26 per month per show :-) |
| 22:55.46 | blankman | NormAst: per person. |
| 22:55.47 | marlowe | PTG123: My integrated DVR? not at all. |
| 22:55.49 | marlowe | Wait |
| 22:55.52 | PTG123 | marlowe: and does yours know if a show is new? |
| 22:55.55 | marlowe | yes |
| 22:55.56 | marlowe | It does |
| 22:56.02 | NormAst | blankman: Who told you that? |
| 22:56.02 | marlowe | You mean if I first get home |
| 22:56.10 | marlowe | After it recorded 10 minutes of it I go to play it from the beginning |
| 22:56.14 | marlowe | and I have to rewind manually |
| 22:56.14 | PTG123 | marlowe: mine doesn't know if it is new, and does that.. my to things i hate |
| 22:56.22 | PTG123 | marlowe: right, that is annoying as hell |
| 22:56.34 | marlowe | Yeah mine does the same, do you have cablevision or no? |
| 22:56.43 | blankman | NormAst: it is the price for "buying" content in canada. You basiclly just buy the content form the providers and the cable companies can do anything about it :-) |
| 22:56.46 | PTG123 | marlowe: also i fyou are watching a show its recording, and it ends, it jumps you back to th ebeginning |
| 22:56.56 | PTG123 | marlowe: cox, but i am assuming its the same device |
| 22:56.58 | blankman | You are then "redistibuting" it as a whole sales. |
| 22:57.00 | NormAst | hmmm |
| 22:57.03 | marlowe | PTG123: Mine does that as well |
| 22:57.11 | PTG123 | marlowe: tivo just has all the bugs worked out, no annoying things like that |
| 22:57.27 | cursor | My job is done here - I've changed the topic and now I'll make a quiet exit |
| 22:57.28 | cursor | D'oh! |
| 22:57.29 | blankman | I will see if I can dig up the company that actually has an entire system for it ... I think they are in Quebec |
| 22:57.33 | cursor | Must stop thinking aloud |
| 22:57.51 | Druken | blankman: but you add up those .26 cents over the course of a month, over 200 channels.. well... the cost is fucken insane |
| 22:57.59 | PTG123 | cursor: should have been here last night, topic was gay men and airplanes |
| 22:58.08 | blankman | cursor: do you run the iax on the myth? |
| 22:58.11 | cursor | haha |
| 22:58.16 | cursor | Noooo |
| 22:58.27 | cursor | Myth runs on its own server |
| 22:58.31 | cursor | 1 server, 2 clients |
| 22:58.34 | blankman | Druken: you only have to pay the .26 when you "distribute" the content, not when you capture it. |
| 22:59.03 | blankman | cursor: yeah, but you can run SIP and IAX2 I thought through it ... no? |
| 22:59.05 | Druken | uh huh... well a cable company distributed the content 24/7 |
| 22:59.22 | Druken | what, do the customers call you up and say, yeah.. i wana watch channel 135 |
| 22:59.26 | blankman | Druken: uh ... not when they are doing VOD :-) |
| 22:59.30 | cursor | There is a MythPhone (SIP video conferencing), but I haven't tried it |
| 22:59.48 | cursor | I don't know anyone with SIP videoconferencing kit to call |
| 23:00.06 | blankman | ummm ... yeah, I don't want to be the 'early' adopter on that one ;-) |
| 23:00.09 | PTG123 | i use eyebeam |
| 23:00.17 | PTG123 | but no one else has it, so i can't get any conference going |
| 23:00.25 | Druken | i'm not rich enough to have a video confrencing phone |
| 23:00.30 | blankman | Druken: they just request the stream from the myth server. |
| 23:01.01 | Druken | blankman: provide movies over video confrence :) |
| 23:01.25 | blankman | hey, so anyone else know about the dial status stuff? |
| 23:01.30 | Druken | you'd have corperate employees with lazyboys in their cubicles |
| 23:01.37 | blankman | Druken: yup, but the tv shows two :-) |
| 23:01.57 | marlowe | PTG123: Is your box a scientific atlanta? |
| 23:02.20 | blankman | I am trying to figure out if I am missing a switch to the dial plan so that it "returns" when it has an answer. |
| 23:03.17 | blankman | I am trying to write an macro that will be smart about setting some vars when a call is "bridged", but I can't seem to figure out how to get the call to return to the macro. |
| 23:03.34 | Jer13261 | you cant |
| 23:03.37 | Jer13261 | err |
| 23:03.42 | Jer13261 | n/m |
| 23:05.01 | cursor | It took over my job |
| 23:05.08 | cursor | That's the last time I do that |
| 23:05.26 | cursor | No gratitude for their creators |
| 23:05.55 | blankman | Jer13261: was that to me? |
| 23:05.59 | Darwin35 | Cursor did you cron your self again |
| 23:06.09 | cursor | :-) |
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| 23:06.38 | Jer13261 | blankman: if the called is Bridged out for the * path then you cant have it return |
| 23:07.19 | cursor | while :; do something_stupid; done |
| 23:07.24 | blankman | ummm... okay, I will look into the macro call then ... cause there is away to change the macro returns right? Is that stuff stable? |
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| 23:09.55 | cursor | Later, guys |
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| 23:10.26 | cbachman | blankman, you can call a macro from the Dial command. It's run before the call is bridged though, but it can be used to set variables in the connected to channel |
| 23:11.15 | blankman | cbachman: okay, thanks ... I will read up on it on the wiki. |
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| 23:11.57 | cbachman | blankman, there's a M parameter to the Dial command Note that it's more functional in HEAD than stable |
| 23:12.21 | TheCool | I have a question about asterisk, say I have a voip account with vonage. Say I have 10 extensions, can I make 10 outgoing calls at the same time with one account, or do I need 10 accounts? |
| 23:12.53 | blankman | cbachman: yup ... reading about it now and looking at the code ... I am few version from head, but further than stable ... so I will patch as needed... have you used this var? |
| 23:13.22 | cbachman | blankman, a little, it's fairly straight-forward |
| 23:13.29 | blankman | TheCool: it is my understanding that for vonage you would need 1 account and 9 numbers. |
| 23:13.34 | Qwell | TheCool: It entirely depends on your provider |
| 23:13.41 | Qwell | but...can vonage even talk to *? |
| 23:13.44 | blankman | TheCool: for NuFone you only need an account no number. |
| 23:13.59 | bkw_ | multicast is fun |
| 23:14.04 | cripito | qwell that's scifi |
| 23:14.15 | Qwell | cripito: huh? |
| 23:14.25 | Jer13261 | Qwell: yes via softphone |
| 23:14.26 | cripito | vonage. asterisk |
| 23:14.26 | Jer13261 | or FWD :) |
| 23:14.38 | blankman | cbachman: what do you use it for ... if you don't mind me asking/ |
| 23:14.45 | Qwell | right...doesn't vonage not allot connecting to *? |
| 23:14.47 | Qwell | allow* |
| 23:14.56 | bkw_ | softphone account |
| 23:14.58 | cripito | if vonage ever accept an IAX i eat my tie |
| 23:15.05 | Jer13261 | if you use a softphone acct which is $10 more |
| 23:15.10 | blankman | Qwell: u just have to do a byop version of vonage. |
| 23:15.14 | bkw_ | *69 on vonage is run by asterisk |
| 23:15.21 | Qwell | oh, I read it wasn't allowed, even with the softphone account |
| 23:15.22 | blankman | Qwell: that should have been byob. |
| 23:15.25 | Qwell | bkw_: VM too, no? |
| 23:15.33 | bkw_ | look at where the mysql vm patches came from |
| 23:15.35 | bkw_ | :P |
| 23:15.41 | Jer13261 | its not allwoed but that doesnt mean it doesnt wor |
| 23:15.41 | Jer13261 | k |
| 23:15.43 | TheCool | Now with asterick and a T1 card, can asterick look like a T1 phone interface. Say I have a server with a T1 card that uses the trunks for outbound dialing, |
| 23:15.54 | cripito | true... but that don't mean that we will get IAX accounts in vonage :D softphone (SIP) probably |
| 23:15.55 | cbachman | blankman, nothing really, I was just playing with reading a message to the callee based on the caller information |
| 23:15.55 | Qwell | Jer13261: Thats what I was asking. :p I'm sure its possible |
| 23:16.06 | blankman | TheCool: yeah. |
| 23:16.14 | Qwell | bkw_: So why are they so anal about users using *? :p |
| 23:16.46 | Jer13261 | dont know i hate the #@$&*2's |
| 23:17.05 | blankman | cbachman: k. I was just wondering what use other have for it :) |
| 23:17.06 | bkw_ | Qwell, they give up control |
| 23:17.08 | TheCool | What is the best provider for unlimited business connections? Say 24 of them. Mainly for outbound. |
| 23:17.11 | bkw_ | now they control it.. its just a way to control it |
| 23:17.12 | Qwell | makes sense |
| 23:17.32 | Qwell | I bet they'd get more users if they allowed * |
| 23:17.38 | blankman | TheCool: You mean termination of T1's? |
| 23:18.03 | cbachman | Qwell, from what I've heard Vonage has a hard enough time supporting their own adapters Supporting others would probably be a nightmare |
| 23:18.48 | blankman | cbachman: trust me ... they have enough time just trying to keep their network from falling a part at 3:30pm ... |
| 23:19.18 | cripito | the guys that usually use * 2 connect don't need 2 much support from the providers.. usually look the support in other places |
| 23:19.31 | blankman | We run this little prog. for us to see what the usage lat. are for the different providers our clients us are ... and vonage bites bigggggg time when the kids get out of school ;-) |
| 23:19.34 | cripito | like there :D |
| 23:19.44 | elriah | Guys - I'm having a hell of a time getting the zaptel drivers compiled under debian (sarge). Anyone done this? |
| 23:19.55 | Evanrude | install the zaptel package |
| 23:19.56 | TheCool | What I would like is the ability of using my dialer, which uses a T1 card to be able to use VoiP instead of the regular PSTN. Most pricing that I have seen is around $30 a month unlimited. Time 24 is $720. My currnet T1 loop is $400 plus my phone bill is about $10K. |
| 23:20.31 | elriah | It doesn't include the drivers... Already tried that... |
| 23:20.33 | blankman | TheCool: you are looking for iax or sip? |
| 23:20.49 | Qwell | TheCool: "unlimited" isn't anywhere near what you think it is |
| 23:21.02 | Jer13261 | what *is* unlimited then |
| 23:21.09 | Qwell | like, a few thousand minutes |
| 23:21.09 | TheCool | blankman: Well, I'm new to the VoiP world. I'm not sure what I would need. All I've read about is sip. |
| 23:21.11 | Jer13261 | some undisclosed cap |
| 23:21.16 | Qwell | Jer13261: basically |
| 23:21.18 | cripito | just an idea... |
| 23:21.21 | blankman | TheCool: if you are looking for unlimited and good quality your going to have to pay for it. |
| 23:21.38 | blankman | TheCool: usually it means a per min. rate or some bulking of your minutes. |
| 23:21.44 | Evanrude | elriah: are you using a debian stock kernel? you need to install the kernel-headers-2.x.x for that kernel |
| 23:22.01 | elriah | Evanrude: yep. I've got the headers installed. |
| 23:22.09 | elriah | Install the zaptel package after the headers? |
| 23:22.11 | Evanrude | elriah: then create a symlink called linux or linux-2.6 to that headers folder |
| 23:22.16 | cripito | 24 accounts unlimited and a small program 2 find the channel available 2 make the call .... can solve the problem? @:-) |
| 23:22.25 | blankman | TheCool: since you are going to have multi. calls going you may want to try iax ... better use of bandwidth with trunking. |
| 23:22.41 | Evanrude | elriah: once you have that symlink created you should be able to compile the drivers |
| 23:23.03 | TheCool | blankman: I'll look into iax. What's the bandwidth per line with iax? |
| 23:23.04 | elriah | Ok, I think I'm getting somewhere now ... thanks, evanrude ... Do you use debian? |
| 23:23.11 | Evanrude | elriah: exclusively |
| 23:23.37 | elriah | Are you using the cvs drivers or a deb package? |
| 23:23.45 | blankman | TheCool: less than sip since it uses min frames. Also, you need to read up on IAX trunking ... that is what is going to give you the "boost". |
| 23:23.51 | Evanrude | elriah: i think the zaptel package has the modules for the zaptel but doesn't create any of the devices in /dev |
| 23:24.08 | Evanrude | elriah: i compiled the drivers initially before there was a zaptel package |
| 23:24.09 | TheCool | blankman: The way it works is 24 outbound lines, with only 12 people talking at the same time. At the most. |
| 23:24.18 | Evanrude | elriah: but lately i have just been upgraded the modules with the packages |
| 23:24.28 | elriah | Ok, it's compiling now at least... thanks again! |
| 23:24.47 | blankman | TheCool: so you will get the ben. of having trunking turned on then. |
| 23:24.48 | Evanrude | i only use zaptel for the timer pseudo-timer device, I don't have any zaptel equipment |
| 23:25.06 | blankman | Hey cbachman: did you use the g command ever? |
| 23:25.16 | TheCool | blankman: With sip its what, 64k per line, right? |
| 23:25.16 | blankman | cbachman: for the dial app? |
| 23:25.17 | elriah | Gotcha. I have a single FXO card. |
| 23:25.19 | CoaxD | Evanrude: You really should use zaprtc |
| 23:25.30 | Evanrude | CoaxD: I think that's what I'm using... |
| 23:25.35 | CoaxD | Evanrude: ztdummy is not the way.. |
| 23:25.36 | blankman | TheCool: nope ... you are talking apples and oranges. 64K is for ulaw. |
| 23:25.38 | CoaxD | Evanrude: Okay. cool |
| 23:25.41 | blankman | TheCool: thats the codec. |
| 23:25.52 | cbachman | blankman, yes I have used that. It's no good if the caller hangs up, but is good if the callee hangs up first. |
| 23:25.58 | TheCool | blankman: Ok, I think I'm getting WAY over my head now. |
| 23:26.19 | blankman | cbachman: arg ... thanks ... saved me that rat hole :-) |
| 23:26.20 | TheCool | I think I need to look into the basics of voip first then. |
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| 23:26.39 | Evanrude | CoaxD: maybe I am using ztdummy... I have the src for ztrtc |
| 23:26.59 | CoaxD | evanrude: cool. yeah, zaprtc is definitely the way to go |
| 23:27.06 | CoaxD | evanrude: *so* much more accurate |
| 23:27.11 | Evanrude | i couldn't get it to compile on 2.6 i think was my issue |
| 23:27.18 | blankman | TheCool: your codecs are what give you your "bandwidth" ... well most of it anyway. The trick with IAX Trunking is simple that it MUX's the fames together so you aren't paying for the overhead of individual connections. |
| 23:27.22 | CoaxD | oh. never used it under 2.6.. |
| 23:27.40 | TheCool | blankman: Basically what I'm trying to do is give call centers a better choice than having $10K a month phone bills for 350K+ minutes a month. |
| 23:27.41 | blankman | Think about how an old PAD works and you will have a good idea of how it works. |
| 23:27.45 | Chuji | ~seen pfn |
| 23:27.47 | jbot | pfn <500@adsl-69-107-210-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 26d 21h 34m 10s ago, saying: 'only with iax'. |
| 23:27.49 | cbachman | TheCool, SIP/IAX are the methods of handling the "conversation" between the two computers. The codecs handle the actual voice packets themselves. |
| 23:27.50 | Evanrude | i really haven't messed with it much since everything "works" |
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| 23:28.36 | elriah | What would an "unresolved symbol" be when using modprobe zaptel? |
| 23:28.47 | Evanrude | did you do a make linux26? |
| 23:28.49 | Evanrude | or just a make? |
| 23:29.05 | elriah | make |
| 23:29.05 | Qwell | I think newer zaptel does that check for you |
| 23:29.10 | elriah | I'm running 2.4 kernel. |
| 23:29.14 | Evanrude | ah ok |
| 23:29.15 | Qwell | one of them does...I forget which |
| 23:29.18 | Evanrude | did you do a depmod -a |
| 23:29.22 | elriah | Nope. |
| 23:29.23 | Evanrude | after you copied the modules over |
| 23:29.49 | elriah | depmod -a shows the same error: unresolved symbols in /lib.... |
| 23:30.09 | cbachman | TheCool, asterisk would definitely help you do that. You could have it handle all of the call process for you or just insert it to convert the T1 to voip. |
| 23:31.06 | Evanrude | elriah: not sure... did you get any weird errors while compiling? does the error reference anything else/ |
| 23:31.42 | TheCool | cbachman: Is there a specific reading path I should follow to research this? codecs...trunking...protocols...etc. |
| 23:31.46 | elriah | Not really, now I can't even export my cvs setting, just says invalid. Weird. |
| 23:32.11 | Evanrude | very weird.. |
| 23:32.31 | elriah | Seems to me I could just apt-get install zaptel asterisk and be done with it. |
| 23:32.32 | blankman | TheCool: join me in the TheCool. |
| 23:33.06 | cbachman | TheCool, I'm not really sure. One thing I would recommend that you look at is the bandwidth required to make the calls and add that to your costs. |
| 23:33.09 | Evanrude | that's what i did... |
| 23:33.16 | Evanrude | at least the asterisk part anyway |
| 23:34.49 | elriah | Yea - I've had asterisk up and running for a week, just got my digium fxo card, and now I'm starting over. |
| 23:34.59 | elriah | Should I be using sarge or the actual stable release of deb? |
| 23:35.05 | Evanrude | i use unstable |
| 23:35.09 | Evanrude | it has all the newest stuff |
| 23:35.17 | Evanrude | but sarge should work too |
| 23:35.23 | Evanrude | sarge used to not have asterisk 1.0 but now it does |
| 23:35.29 | elriah | I thought sarge was unstable? |
| 23:35.41 | Evanrude | sarge is testing |
| 23:35.43 | elriah | Ahh. |
| 23:35.54 | Evanrude | stable is way too old |
| 23:35.58 | Evanrude | so that's not even an option |
| 23:38.50 | elriah | Are there any distro's with asterisk 1.0 and zaptel packages that work out of the box? |
| 23:39.05 | Evanrude | i thought debian did |
| 23:39.25 | elriah | Well, asterisk.deb works great, but zaptel.deb just doesn't work. (for me anyway) |
| 23:39.37 | elriah | And I can't google any help, nothing really comes up. |
| 23:39.46 | Evanrude | have you looked on voip-info.org? |
| 23:39.52 | elriah | Yea. |
| 23:40.43 | Evanrude | have you installed the zaptel package and it just flat out doesn't work? |
| 23:41.04 | elriah | Pretty much. It doesn't install any modules. Not sure what it does, really. |
| 23:41.15 | elriah | I'm going to try it again, this time with the headers installed. |
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| 23:52.11 | tzanger | heh |
| 23:52.21 | YoYo | *BURP* |
| 23:52.21 | tzanger | every time I see Evanrude I think of that mosquito from The Rescuers |
| 23:52.33 | Evanrude | haha.. you hit the nail on the head |
| 23:52.54 | tzanger | Evanrude: :-) The first time I heard what that bayou mouse called him I spit my drink out laughing |
| 23:53.01 | tzanger | the kids just didn't get it |
| 23:53.09 | Evanrude | haha |
| 23:53.19 | Evanrude | I haven't even seen that movie in so long |
| 23:53.25 | tzanger | EVEN-RUDE? EVEN-RUDE! WHERE ARE YA, EVEN-RUDE? |
| 23:53.33 | Evanrude | haha |
| 23:53.39 | tzanger | marlowe: you're too young |
| 23:53.44 | tzanger | you aren't old enough to have kids yet :-) |
| 23:53.48 | marlowe | :-0 |
| 23:53.58 | tzanger | fer chrissakes you're still in middle school |
| 23:53.59 | Evanrude | I was a kid when it came out... haha |
| 23:54.21 | tzanger | I'm watching my favourite movie: The Replacements |
| 23:54.22 | marlowe | Yes, the only 22 year old in middle school. |
| 23:54.31 | tzanger | I'm the only gay eskimo |
| 23:54.35 | tzanger | I'm the only one I know |
| 23:54.41 | tzanger | I'm the only gay eskimo in my tribe... |
| 23:54.54 | tzanger | I go ice fishing with my good friend Tarka |
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| 23:55.04 | tzanger | but all I wanna do is get into his parka, yes I'm the only gay eskimo in my tribe... |
| 23:56.17 | tzanger | <ahem> |
| 23:56.30 | tzanger | so, ahem, yes... sip reinvite... yeah... |
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