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`00:00.05`	`zoa`	`FuriousGeorge: yes`
`00:00.09`	`zoa`	`you got that right!`
`00:00.21`	`poli`	`I need to make a X100P work with FXS from another PBX (already used by the company). Asterisk can't recognize when the line is ringing. Does anyone know a good source of information on that matter? Thanks.`
`00:00.32`	`zoa`	`x100p is not good`
`00:00.50`	`zoa`	`go for the new digium cards`
`00:00.55`	`jakepdev`	`what's the method for 2B xfer? just call Tranfser - or is there something additional?`
`00:01.42`	`poli`	`zoa, I am positive they aren't good. :) But I already have one here and ordering some other from where I am from can take anything from 1 to 4 months. :( So I plan to get this one to work. :)`
`00:03.02`	`poli`	`zoa, I have seen this question on asterisk-user before, but no answer. :(`
`00:07.24`	`MikeJ[Jayden]`	`jakedev, you are using 5ess?`
`00:07.46`	`elriah`	`Ok guys, I've read the faq's, wiki's and how-to's... I've got echoing on my x100p with polycom ip 500's. Anyone have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this? The only thing left is that I have flakey wiring, which doesn't make sense to me as my regular pots phones work fine. But I'm new to this and am hoping that the pri we're planning on putting in won't echo.`
`00:07.46`	`lesouvage`	`poli: see the last post on page http://voip-forum.tmcnet.com/voip-forum/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3435&PN=2&get=last It helps me get my x100p clown work well.`
`00:08.39`	`*** join/#asterisk jeffiku (~jeffik@69.158.33.127)`
`00:09.17`	`bparker`	`where can I download the standard meetme application`
`00:09.50`	`MikeJ[Jayden]`	`jakepdev, why would you go ask on dev and not respond to somone about the question you asked?`
`00:10.16`	`elriah`	`zoa: Ok, so do you think it's my x100p?`
`00:12.30`	`jakepdev`	`Mike - didn't think I could get an answer here`
`00:12.51`	`jakepdev`	`Mike - I'm using a PRI`
`00:13.25`	`MikeJ[Jayden]`	`5ess?`
`00:13.35`	`jakepdev`	`i'll check the config`
`00:13.36`	`bparker`	`can some send me app_meetme.so`
`00:13.47`	`jakepdev`	`b8zs`
`00:13.54`	`MikeJ[Jayden]`	`2bct is only in cpe side 5ess.`
`00:14.16`	`jakepdev`	`ok. tnx`
`00:15.07`	`jakepdev`	`when i do that, the I just use Transfer(Zap/group/exten) after the call is answered?`
`00:20.03`	`shidan`	`hey tzanger whats up`
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`00:46.08`	`Saback`	`Somebody may help me with PRI configurations.... I�m getting this error: Mar 26 21:45:49 WARNING[2610]: chan_zap.c:7143 zt_pri_error: PRI: !! No channel map, no channel, and no ds1? What am I supposed to identify?`
`00:46.08`	`Saback`	`Mar 26 21:45:49 WARNING[2610]: chan_zap.c:7143 zt_pri_error: PRI: !! Unable to add IE 'Channel Identification'`
`00:46.27`	`*** join/#asterisk Maquis (~Maquis@byu074659wks.rn.byu.edu)`
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`00:48.23`	`greg-a`	`anyone know of a PoE-powered ATA?`
`00:50.16`	`D1ng0`	`greg-a, use ISCSI`
`00:51.06`	`greg-a`	`ISCSI?`
`00:51.34`	`ManxPower`	`~docs`
`00:51.35`	`jbot`	`Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org`
`00:51.36`	`ManxPower`	`~mailinglist`
`00:51.37`	`jbot`	`mailinglist is, like, Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/`
`00:51.48`	`greg-a`	`Dibbler: wtf does that have to do with Analog Telephone Adapters?`
`00:52.38`	`*** part/#asterisk Maquis (~Maquis@byu074659wks.rn.byu.edu)`
`00:53.15`	`D1ng0`	`greg-a, ooops read that wrong sorry, thought you were talking SCSI over ATA`
`00:53.28`	`D1ng0`	`ie ATA over ethernet`
`00:53.55`	`greg-a`	`umm`
`00:53.59`	`greg-a`	`why would I ask that in #asterisk`
`00:54.00`	`greg-a`	`lol`
`00:54.09`	`Qwell`	`greg-a: because we know everything? :p`
`00:54.12`	`D1ng0`	`dude youd be surprised`
`00:54.35`	`D1ng0`	`Qwell, maybe even how i can land a job in the p[hillipines even ????`
`00:54.40`	`D1ng0`	`:)`
`00:54.43`	`greg-a`	`its like saying /join #postgres 'somebody help me setup mysql'`
`00:54.51`	`greg-a`	`heh`
`00:54.59`	`Qwell`	`D1ng0: sure, but my howto isn't worksafe`
`00:55.06`	`D1ng0`	`greg-a, but you know as well as i do thats been done also`
`00:55.15`	`greg-a`	`haha yes`
`00:55.21`	`Qwell`	`greg-a: You'd be surprised how many BSD questions we get in #linuxhelp on efnet`
`00:55.33`	`D1ng0`	`Qwell, damn i wish i could get out of the US`
`00:55.34`	`greg-a`	`I'm not surprised about anything on efnet :P`
`00:55.39`	`Qwell`	`greg-a: ;]`
`00:56.10`	`PTG123`	`hey qwell`
`00:56.16`	`Qwell`	`morning`
`00:56.21`	`newl`	`D1ng0: So leave. I did, 6 years ago. B)`
`00:56.30`	`Qwell`	`or, whatever time it is in your crazy timezone :p`
`00:56.31`	`D1ng0`	`newl, where you at ?`
`00:56.41`	`newl`	`D1ng0: Australia`
`00:56.49`	`PTG123`	`heh`
`00:56.50`	`D1ng0`	`shit id love to be there`
`00:56.54`	`PTG123`	`right now our timezone is normal`
`00:56.58`	`PTG123`	`this summer is when it gets crazy`
`00:57.02`	`Qwell`	`D1ng0: by your nick, I'd assume you were`
`00:57.03`	`PTG123`	`or maybe i got that backwards :)`
`00:57.09`	`D1ng0`	`australia, new zealand or the phillipines`
`00:57.14`	`D1ng0`	`well yes im aussie`
`00:57.16`	`Qwell`	`PTG123: Its sad when residents don't even know. :p`
`00:57.19`	`D1ng0`	`but i live in the US`
`00:57.28`	`PTG123`	`we are the only normal ones, our time doesn't change :)`
`00:57.35`	`D1ng0`	`but i cant just move without a job to support me`
`00:57.48`	`PTG123`	`why would you want to move?`
`00:57.51`	`Qwell`	`PTG123: its like indiana too. my friend told me a story last year...`
`00:57.53`	`Saback`	`Qwell: So, some tips abou the sync problem with ISDN PRI? Phisical layer is OK but the PRI interface with asterisk is down and there is no docs talking about that!`
`00:58.01`	`D1ng0`	`cuz i cant get my wife into the US`
`00:58.17`	`Qwell`	`when daylight savings was supposed to start, the alarm system went off, something to do with the time change...cops were called, etc`
`00:58.39`	`newl`	`D1ng0: Plenty of work here. Why can't you get her in? You're not a permanent resident so they won't let her over?`
`00:58.56`	`PTG123`	`Qwell, its because of the indians.. they didn't want to change time, so since we had so many here they got to decide that`
`00:59.12`	`Qwell`	`PTG123: but its only like...phoenix, right?`
`00:59.21`	`PTG123`	`Qwell, nope all of the state`
`00:59.22`	`Qwell`	`or like half the state, or something dumb. heh`
`00:59.22`	`D1ng0`	`no i am a citizen but shes phillipino/chinese double trouble... for immigration and 1 year to wait for the bearacracy`
`00:59.31`	`Qwell`	`maybe its indiana then, where its part of the state`
`00:59.32`	`PTG123`	`Qwell, all of arizona is the same`
`00:59.44`	`PTG123`	`Qwell, could be, you running the latest cvs right now qwell?`
`00:59.50`	`Qwell`	`nope, 1.0.7`
`00:59.57`	`D1ng0`	`newl but how does an american citizen find work there`
`01:00.00`	`PTG123`	`Qwell, i thought you updated before`
`01:00.03`	`Qwell`	`with the fun little patch`
`01:00.16`	`newl`	`D1ng0: ahh..philipine isn't much of a problem usually. Pre 11.Sep, it was alot easier going either way.`
`01:00.19`	`Qwell`	`I did...but other stuff didn't work, so I reverted back to see if it was my configs`
`01:00.36`	`D1ng0`	`i could move to the philipines with 5K and live for 6 months and look for work`
`01:00.44`	`D1ng0`	`but thsts risky`
`01:00.56`	`PTG123`	`ok everyone go to btefnet.net and download tv shows, so more torrents stay available :)`
`01:01.12`	`D1ng0`	`newl dude weve been so tossed around since 9/11 its hard as hell to get someone here, even married`
`01:01.14`	`newl`	`D1ng0: I'm a permanent resident. Work was easy to find, I just called Telstra (I was a liney for SBC/Ameritech).`
`01:01.16`	`PTG123`	`I could do my job any place their is high speed internet`
`01:01.49`	`D1ng0`	`im about to empty my bank account and just get on a damn plane`
`01:02.01`	`D1ng0`	`which i know is a bad idea with no job there`
`01:02.18`	`newl`	`D1ng0: I hear ya man. I kinda looked into it briefly a few years ago when the wife and I thought about shifting there, wasn't looking as easy as it used to.`
`01:03.04`	`D1ng0`	`i mean for 1K US i can live quite well in the phillipines, but work is a different story`
`01:03.05`	`PTG123`	`whats wrong with where you live?`
`01:03.32`	`D1ng0`	`PTG123, they wount let my wife in for a year or so due to visa requirements`
`01:03.35`	`newl`	`D1ng0: hah that's precicely what I did. Sorted everything, got on a plane, hit Perth and never looked back (though I wish I had time now for holidays and family).`
`01:04.02`	`D1ng0`	`newl if i knew i couild rate a job in AU id be there in 2 days`
`01:04.10`	`PTG123`	`D1ng0, just bring her in on a vacation visa, and she can never leave`
`01:04.17`	`PTG123`	`D1ng0, where is your wife from?`
`01:04.22`	`D1ng0`	`PTG123, they are even harder to get`
`01:04.29`	`D1ng0`	`shes chionese/filipino`
`01:04.31`	`PTG123`	`D1ng0, you are in the US?`
`01:04.34`	`D1ng0`	`yes`
`01:04.38`	`D1ng0`	`lorida`
`01:04.39`	`PTG123`	`D1ng0, a vacation visa is automatic`
`01:04.41`	`D1ng0`	`florida`
`01:04.53`	`D1ng0`	`not for her, the requirements are huge`
`01:04.55`	`PTG123`	`when you cross the country they give you one`
`01:04.59`	`newl`	`D1ng0: Check seek.com.au, jobsearch.com.au (or alternatively .gov.au)`
`01:05.02`	`PTG123`	`why b/c she is from china?`
`01:05.17`	`D1ng0`	`because she is filipinop/chinese`
`01:05.42`	`PTG123`	`Well those chinese should stop building those nuclear missles :)`
`01:06.02`	`Shido6`	`D1ng0 immigration issues?`
`01:06.07`	`D1ng0`	`Yupp`
`01:06.15`	`Shido6`	`does your wife speak Tagalog?`
`01:06.16`	`D1ng0`	`even considered smuggling her in`
`01:06.19`	`D1ng0`	`shidan, yes`
`01:06.22`	`D1ng0`	`and english`
`01:06.25`	`D1ng0`	`and spanish`
`01:06.26`	`Shido6`	`cool..`
`01:06.37`	`Shido6`	`have her or email cheng29@cogeco.ca`
`01:06.58`	`Shido6`	`for immigration help`
`01:07.07`	`D1ng0`	`shidan, whos that`
`01:07.09`	`Qwell`	`small bribe required`
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`01:07.14`	`newl`	`haha`
`01:07.32`	`Shido6`	`can your wife see the screen right now?`
`01:07.35`	`programmer_ted`	`just curious if anyone's had the same problem as me; I know, I've already checked mailing lists and searched Google`
`01:07.57`	`newl`	`Being multilingual would be a bonus if seeking similar employment.`
`01:07.58`	`programmer_ted`	`problem: using FC3, I get "unable to open master device /dev/zap/ctl" when doing modprobe wcfxo`
`01:08.10`	`Shido6`	`lets just say I have some flip inlawa`
`01:08.13`	`Shido6`	`inlaws`
`01:08.19`	`programmer_ted`	`i've found many places where people have had the same problems, but no solutions have worked yet`
`01:08.46`	`programmer_ted`	`soooo...anyone?`
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`01:09.04`	`PTG123`	`yah use a sip or iax provider :)`
`01:09.21`	`programmer_ted`	`:P`
`01:09.24`	`programmer_ted`	`used to use Broadvoice`
`01:09.35`	`Qwell`	`My condolences`
`01:09.40`	`programmer_ted`	`ha :P`
`01:09.56`	`programmer_ted`	`so anyone know how to fix the "unable to open master device" problem?`
`01:10.10`	`PTG123`	`you know using an internet based carrier is cheaper ;) and easier`
`01:10.10`	`PTG123`	`heh`
`01:10.20`	`Qwell`	`PTG123: Able to answer your extension this time? Tried last night, but it just rang and rang, heh`
`01:10.37`	`programmer_ted`	`already got the FXO device`
`01:11.04`	`programmer_ted`	`used to have it working, but it appears to be a problem with udev`
`01:11.05`	`PTG123`	`i was downstairs typing from bed last night`
`01:11.05`	`PTG123`	`:)`
`01:11.09`	`Qwell`	`ahh, heh`
`01:11.24`	`PTG123`	`qwell: give me like 20 minutes, i am leaching files and my voip will be fucked`
`01:11.28`	`PTG123`	`till its done`
`01:11.46`	`Qwell`	`no rush, just wanted to test it out sometime before monday`
`01:12.00`	`PTG123`	`k i'll tell you when its done`
`01:12.06`	`PTG123`	`getting the kojak season premiere`
`01:12.18`	`PTG123`	`dr who just got uploaded, but gonna wait till more seeds get in place`
`01:12.19`	`PTG123`	`heh`
`01:13.08`	`*** part/#asterisk programmer_ted (~programme@c-24-17-229-184.client.comcast.net)`
`01:14.29`	`newl`	`feh! bloody hell. Is it NOT possible to execute or include extension or macro block without a real extension number? i.e. exten => alwaysrun,1,Nop(). s, _., _s, none of these seem to work (beyond causing an extension to be repeated twice on one of them).`
`01:14.55`	`kram`	`newl: try _X.`
`01:15.09`	`kram`	`if you run _. it will run for the extension as well as for the "h" extension on hangup`
`01:15.12`	`Qwell`	`kram: I think he means in addition to whatever else`
`01:15.43`	`Qwell`	`like, run abc,1,whatever and whatever matches EXTEN`
`01:15.57`	`PTG123`	`hey kram`
`01:16.06`	`PTG123`	`kram: is g729 broke with new jitterbuffer?`
`01:16.18`	`newl`	`right, I don't care what the extension is, I want the block to execute irregardless.`
`01:17.16`	`PTG123`	`newl, you mean run your code in addition to the other extension/`
`01:17.18`	`kram`	`ptg: not that i know of`
`01:17.33`	`tainted-`	`newl what are you trying to accomplish though`
`01:17.45`	`tainted-`	`newl it sounds like your dialplan logic might be ass`
`01:17.59`	`PTG123`	`kram, i guess i will know briefly..`
`01:18.09`	`newl`	`That's entirely possible, however the flow is and should be linear. :)`
`01:18.30`	`kram`	`it doesn't use the new jitterbuffer in a meaningful way, but hopefullyt aht will chagne soon`
`01:18.44`	`tainted-`	`newl but what would you like to execute regardless of the extension`
`01:18.46`	`PTG123`	`i was hoping steve would come around soon so i could ask him`
`01:18.58`	`tainted-`	`newl you might be hammering with a screwdriver`
`01:19.09`	`newl`	`tainted-: the basic gist is this, ; grab customer data ; handle the call ; clean up`
`01:19.57`	`newl`	`At the beginning and end of a call, things need to happen.`
`01:20.02`	`tainted-`	`if you're not handling high call volume.. maybe AGI is the answer`
`01:20.58`	`newl`	`mmm..I did think of that, however I'm trying to keep a high call volume mentality about this in order to not limit what I'm attempting to do.`
`01:21.00`	`tainted-`	`~google asterisk agi cmd`
`01:21.42`	`tainted-`	`ok what kind of call volume did you have in mind`
`01:22.04`	`tainted-`	`10, 100, 1,000, 10,000 simultaneous calls?`
`01:22.38`	`PTG123`	`newl, hook into the same stuff the cdr does`
`01:22.56`	`newl`	`Probably between 1,000 and 3,000. Speculation here though, I'd have to ask the CLEC for a more definative number. :)`
`01:23.18`	`tainted-`	`ok well asterisk is not the answer`
`01:23.34`	`PTG123`	`well i tcan be with alot of custom mods`
`01:23.34`	`tainted-`	`you'd probably want to take a look at SER`
`01:23.58`	`tainted-`	`PTG123 what kind of mods..`
`01:24.11`	`elriah`	`How often is the cvs tree updated?`
`01:24.20`	`PTG123`	`tainted-, depends, alot of the stuff i have been working on is aimed at high volume`
`01:24.22`	`Qwell`	`elriah: whenever somebody commits a change`
`01:24.25`	`newl`	`I believe it could possibly be if the design of the servers is thought of in the way an ILEC operates.`
`01:25.06`	`tainted-`	`PTG123 do you do any transcoding?`
`01:25.48`	`PTG123`	`tainted-, with transcoding one server won't handle that, but my stuff is aimed at scaling through mutipl boxes..`
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`01:25.57`	`tainted-`	`i wonder if anyone has tried to set up two asterisk machines.. one dedicated to transcoding while the other routes calls`
`01:26.20`	`cypromis`	`tainted-: that is fairly standard`
`01:26.25`	`Qwell`	`You'd likely get more performance if both were transcoding, wouldn't you?`
`01:26.39`	`Qwell`	`you'd end up with a nice bottleneck`
`01:26.43`	`PTG123`	`tainted-, my new project is to give chan_sip the performance of ser`
`01:26.53`	`tainted-`	`Qwell well i was thinking redundancy..`
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`01:26.55`	`newl`	`heh Southfield, MI. <-- Used to live ~40 minutes drive from there. :)`
`01:27.12`	`tainted-`	`cypromis how so?`
`01:27.15`	`PTG123`	`Qwell, well transcoding shouldn't be needed, unless you are plugging in pris directly.. with l3 we just pass the stream to them, and let them handle the codec compression`
`01:27.32`	`Qwell`	`PTG123: yeah..`
`01:27.43`	`PTG123`	`and if you are using a pri, just dedicate a box to each pri.. and let that box handle transcoding`
`01:27.52`	`cypromis`	`tainted-: larger scale setup ten to split the voip to t1/e1 from the transcoding`
`01:28.18`	`cypromis`	`in some cases you even set it up so that each service has at least one separate box`
`01:28.21`	`tainted-`	`cypromis how is load balanced`
`01:28.23`	`cypromis`	`so if one thing gets blown`
`01:28.29`	`cypromis`	`it does not take all your services with it`
`01:28.38`	`cypromis`	`load balanced ?`
`01:28.52`	`cypromis`	`different story`
`01:28.53`	`cypromis`	`:))`
`01:29.01`	`tainted-`	`i was thinking of mirroring services on all boxes`
`01:29.28`	`tainted-`	`and somehow balance the load`
`01:29.42`	`PTG123`	`tainted-, thats what a proxy does, like ser`
`01:29.43`	`tainted-`	`with a central db`
`01:30.01`	`tainted-`	`but i'm in love with *`
`01:30.01`	`*** join/#asterisk tandre (~chatzilla@213.13.249.128)`
`01:30.35`	`tainted-`	`PTG123 unless you are saying the SER can distribute the load to an * farm`
`01:30.40`	`PTG123`	`then just wait till my stuff is done and i release it`
`01:30.44`	`PTG123`	`tainted-, yah i am saying it can`
`01:31.18`	`elriah`	`Hey guys, in the cvs source, what module is throwing this: ERROR[18747]: cdr_custom.c:135 load_module: Unable to register custom CDR handling`
`01:31.19`	`elriah`	`?`
`01:31.34`	`tainted-`	`PTG123 what's the learning curve for SER like`
`01:31.40`	`tainted-`	`steeper than *?`
`01:31.58`	`PTG123`	`think its pretty easy.. i don't like the idea of running them both.. i want to make asterisk do what ser can`
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`01:36.34`	`fmenard_`	`does asterisk support T.`
`01:36.54`	`Qwell`	`Nope, no support for T's`
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`01:42.07`	`erik2`	`Anyone around?`
`01:42.09`	`elriah`	`Man, I can't get agi 'stream file' to work at all, any of you have any luck with this? I've tried it on deb with * 1.0.5, now on redhat 9 with the latest cvs build, agi debug is on, no error messages, returns 0, just doens't play the file..`
`01:42.30`	`courtneyguy`	`anyone have any clue why the dtmf signals from an ip phone wouldnt do anything even though i see the "Sending dtmf" in the log (so obviously asterisk sees the signals).`
`01:43.07`	`courtneyguy`	`i swear it was working earlier...going through the menu. now it seems that the keys dont do a damn thing.. ;)`
`01:44.05`	`erik2`	`I just installed a Symantec Enterprise firewall now, for some reason my zaptel channels are not registering (NOTE: It has been a good year since I did anything with Asterisk but phone calls)`
`01:44.08`	`elriah`	`I can do agi say digits, works fine.`
`01:44.39`	`elriah`	`Anybody? AGI stream files?`
`01:44.46`	`erik2`	`What modules do I need to modprobe?`
`01:45.18`	`courtneyguy`	`seems like we got a bunch of questions. and no one to help ;)`
`01:45.37`	`erik2`	`No Kram, no bkw, no JerJer. :(`
`01:47.44`	`erik2`	`Anyone have a TDM400P in here?`
`01:48.14`	`cbachman`	`erik2, normally you modprobe zaptel first then the module for your specific card then ztcfg`
`01:48.29`	`kram`	`erik2: wctdm is the module`
`01:48.36`	`kram`	`erik2: you can try to e-mail support@digium.com`
`01:49.09`	`erik2`	`Shoot. No such module`
`01:49.11`	`ManxPower`	`cbachman: If everything is correctly installed "make install" then zaptel and ztcfg and run automagically.`
`01:49.20`	`kram`	`try getting cvs head, erik2`
`01:49.29`	`kram`	`at least for zaptel`
`01:49.51`	`ManxPower`	`erik2: wctdm is for CVS-HEAD. Use modprobe wcfxs for 1.0.x`
`01:49.52`	`erik2`	`Thanks Mark. I will try now. It has been a little while since I upgraded`
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`01:50.28`	`[hC]`	`Is it common for DIALSTATUS to return "CONGESTION" when trying to dial a SIP peer that isnt registered? I thought it would return CHANUNAVAIL?`
`01:50.30`	`elriah`	`Man, I can't get agi 'stream file' to work at all, any of you have any luck with this? I've tried it on deb with * 1.0.5, now on redhat 9 with the latest cvs build, agi debug is on, no error messages, returns 0, just doens't play the file..`
`01:50.36`	`[hC]`	`I get this`
`01:50.38`	`[hC]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:50.38`	`[hC]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:50.38`	`[hC]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:51.09`	`ManxPower`	`[hC]: logically it would return something like PEERNOTAVAIL`
`01:51.26`	`ManxPower`	`[hC]: but it returns CONGESTION. We have all learned to live with it.`
`01:51.34`	`Qwell`	`kram: Is there much difference between wctdm and wcfxo(fxs was it?)?`
`01:51.49`	`[hC]`	`ManxPower: when looking at the DIALSTATUS return codes on the wiki, it seemed like it would most likely return CHANUNAVAIL, but if its normal for it to behave this way, i can deal with it :)`
`01:51.52`	`Qwell`	`kram: gentoo autoloaded wcfx[o\|s], and I thought nothing of it`
`01:51.59`	`cbachman`	`manxpower, I was assuming that he hadn't changed anything and just needed to restart things, with something a year old, wcfxs/wcfxo makes sense.`
`01:52.04`	`kram`	`wcfxs was part of stable`
`01:52.09`	`kram`	`wctdm is what is' calledin head`
`01:52.14`	`Qwell`	`ahh, ok`
`01:52.16`	`[hC]`	`I just define s-BUSY to go to busy voicemail and _s-. to go to Unavail, to catch 'em all`
`01:52.18`	`Qwell`	`I'm running stable`
`01:52.25`	`Qwell`	`it was just renamed then?`
`01:54.01`	`ManxPower`	`cbachman: once the FXO modules became available it was not logical to call the driver wcfxs`
`01:54.25`	`Qwell`	`ManxPower: That answered the rest of my question too, thanks.`
`01:55.18`	`[hC]`	`I suppose there's no way of defining multiple hosts to attempt dialing out thru in iax.conf? (eg. For voipjet or voicepulse)`
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`01:55.39`	`[hC]`	`Im working on a superdial macro here that will take care of both incoming and outgoing. (hopefully) intelligently`
`01:58.53`	`ManxPower`	`[hC]: everyone has a super dial macro`
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`02:00.03`	`elriah`	`Man, I can't get agi 'stream file' to work at all, any of you have any luck with this? I've tried it on deb with * 1.0.5, now on redhat 9 with the latest cvs build, agi debug is on, no error messages, returns 0, just doens't play the file..`
`02:01.10`	`erik2`	`God I hate firewalls. Install a Symantec Enterprise firewall and it breaks everything. Rules rules and more rules`
`02:01.14`	`[hC]`	`ManxPower: i found one on the wiki, and im sort of basing it off of that, but it seems like a lot of people duplicate macros for dialing out on various peers, im trying to consolidate that into one dial macro, but keep the ability of failing over to next-best IAX gateways if the call needs to and is not a local sip call. Maybe im re inventing the wheel here, I'd love to see other peoples dial macros to compare`
`02:01.21`	`[hC]`	`Know where I can check out some "good" examples?`
`02:02.39`	`erik2`	`bkw or someone use to host a lot of exampe configs. I have a whole slue of them but I downloaded them some 2 years ago this summer`
`02:04.19`	`erik2`	`Man.`
`02:04.20`	`erik2`	`[root@minime zaptel]# modprobe wctdm`
`02:04.20`	`erik2`	`/lib/modules/2.4.22-1.2174.nptl/misc/wctdm.o: init_module: No such device`
`02:04.28`	`erik2`	`[root@minime zaptel]# modprobe wctdm`
`02:04.28`	`erik2`	`/lib/modules/2.4.22-1.2174.nptl/misc/wctdm.o: init_module: No such device`
`02:04.31`	`erik2`	`[root@minime zaptel]# modprobe wctdm`
`02:04.31`	`erik2`	`/lib/modules/2.4.22-1.2174.nptl/misc/wctdm.o: init_module: No such device`
`02:04.41`	`Qwell`	`yeah, we got it the first two times`
`02:04.49`	`erik2`	`I was scrolled up. LOL`
`02:05.24`	`erik2`	`lspci shows the "00:14.0 Communication controller: Individual Computers - Jens Schoenfeld Intel 537"`
`02:05.24`	`erik2`	`device`
`02:05.30`	`erik2`	`I believe that is how the TDM400P shows up in lspci`
`02:05.33`	`kram`	`try typing "dmesg"`
`02:05.42`	`kram`	`see if you get more info on the "no such device"`
`02:05.51`	`kram`	`are you using cvs head?`
`02:05.54`	`kram`	`of zaptel?`
`02:06.18`	`ManxPower`	`Who was having a problem with AGI STREAM FILE?`
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`02:07.13`	`Qwell`	`ManxPower: elriah`
`02:07.24`	`erik2`	`Ya Mark. I just downloaded the CVS head`
`02:07.31`	`erik2`	`Not 5 minutes ago`
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`02:07.39`	`erik2`	`I did not DL asterisk though`
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`02:08.19`	`Qwell`	`snack of the day: chilicheese pringles`
`02:09.01`	`ManxPower`	`elriah: you here?`
`02:09.29`	`ManxPower`	`erik2: Unless you download it and build it yourself, you cannot be sure the packager didn't screw something up.`
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`02:09.43`	`newl`	`Chili cheese? Damnit, we miss out on all sort of cool junk food here in Oz. :/`
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`02:10.31`	`Qwell`	`newl: I'd never heard of it either. It's pretty good though`
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`02:10.53`	`Qwell`	`newl: You send me some roo steaks, and I'll send you some chilicheese pringles`
`02:11.13`	`courtneyguy`	`hey.. any clue whats up with asterisk not responding to dtmf signals?`
`02:11.34`	`erik2`	`I did. cvs login, cvs up -d, make, make install, modprobe zaptel, modprobe wctdm, ztcfg`
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`02:12.53`	`ManxPower`	`courtneyguy: It's either a DTMF mode problem, or you have the recent Asterisk CVS-HEAD with broken DTMF.`
`02:12.55`	`erik2`	`lspci is even showing the TDM400P`
`02:13.10`	`ManxPower`	`"Anyone that runs CVS-HEAD that is not on the asterisk-cvs mailing list is an idiot."`
`02:13.17`	`Qwell`	`erik2: Communication controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN interface`
`02:13.22`	`ManxPower`	`erik2: put the card into a different slot.`
`02:13.40`	`newl`	`Qwell: haha I have a hard enough time getting my family to send me stuff. :)`
`02:13.43`	`erik2`	`This is a mini-itx`
`02:13.49`	`erik2`	`1 slot and only 1 slot`
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`02:13.56`	`Qwell`	`newl: well, I'd do it for some roo steaks :p`
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`02:14.11`	`Qwell`	`They'd have to be overnighted though, because...eww`
`02:14.12`	`erik2`	`I reseated the cards and the whole works`
`02:14.37`	`Qwell`	`I had an x100p, and I just dropped in a tdm400p. Did the x100p move to 2 or 5?`
`02:14.44`	`Qwell`	`2 didn't seem to work`
`02:14.54`	`courtneyguy`	`manx: if the dtmf mode is setup wrong does the asterisk logging still show the correct dtmf signal? because i see it on the console. it just doesnt do anything.`
`02:15.46`	`courtneyguy`	`i get : Sending dtmf: 55 (7), at x.x.x.x in the logs.`
`02:17.01`	`Qwell`	`right...nevermind, ztcfg shows that. I'm an idiot`
`02:17.13`	`erik2`	`Does anyone have a TDM400P?`
`02:17.16`	`courtneyguy`	`oh and im not running CVS-HEAD ;)`
`02:17.31`	`Qwell`	`erik2: yes...many people here do, I'm sure`
`02:17.53`	`erik2`	`What does "lspci" show for your TDM400P?`
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`02:18.13`	`Qwell`	`erik2: I already told you what it says`
`02:19.18`	`erik2`	`:( I am on a little terminal window. I had to scroll up`
`02:19.22`	`courtneyguy`	`perhaps i should just go to the list. it just lacks the instant gratification of irc hehe`
`02:19.23`	`Qwell`	`Communication controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN interface`
`02:19.32`	`erik2`	`My TDM400P is well over a year old.`
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`02:19.44`	`Qwell`	`Then yours may be different`
`02:20.03`	`erik2`	`When I put the card in and out the only device that shows up is "00:14.0 Communication controller: Individual Computers - Jens Schoenfeld Intel 537"`
`02:21.15`	`ManxPower`	`The TEXT of the device depends on the version of PCILIB.`
`02:21.22`	`ManxPower`	`erik2: But that looks like the care.`
`02:21.25`	`ManxPower`	`card`
`02:23.14`	`ManxPower`	`erik2: That looks SO much like an X100P.`
`02:23.53`	`erik2`	`What is strange is that I installed the Symantec Enterprise Firewall, powered down my Asterisk Mini-ITX system, moved it around, changed subnets for the oricono WIFI card in it, powered it back up now the zaptel channels are not registering.`
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`02:24.00`	`Qwell`	`ManxPower: my tdm and x100p show the same output in lspci`
`02:24.06`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell: Ah.`
`02:24.41`	`Qwell`	`not the same as what he has...`
`02:24.50`	`Qwell`	`You know what I meant`
`02:25.01`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell: Well, as I said, different versions of PCILIB will name the card differently.`
`02:25.18`	`Qwell`	`yeah`
`02:25.36`	`Qwell`	`different revisions of a card could be wildly different too`
`02:25.39`	`erik2`	`Manx: It is a TMD400P. I have an x100p in my Penguin box but alas I cannot use that system for IAX since my Cisco 7960 is fried. I only use FXO (good old junky phones) now`
`02:25.59`	`phsdshft`	`So, is there anyone actually working on a T.38 implementation for asterisk?`
`02:26.46`	`ManxPower`	`phsdshft: not that I know of.`
`02:27.09`	`phsdshft`	`I wonder how legit the bounty on it is..`
`02:28.21`	`phsdshft`	`Anyone can post a bounty right? So there is no way of knowing if they will actually pay...`
`02:28.37`	`Shido6`	`?`
`02:29.15`	`Qwell`	`well, don't quit your dayjob to code something for a bounty`
`02:29.32`	`phsdshft`	`Nod.. but its something that would be very useful for us anyway`
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`02:36.36`	`courtneyguy`	`if any pay attention to the asterisk users list. i posted the actual configuration and console output ;)`
`02:37.30`	`Dovid`	`hello all`
`02:37.44`	`Dovid`	`i am new here. anyone know of a gui or web based sustem for asterisk ?`
`02:38.17`	`courtneyguy`	`Dovid amp is alright.`
`02:38.36`	`courtneyguy`	`http://amp.coalescentsystems.ca/`
`02:38.42`	`Dovid`	`that was too hard for me`
`02:38.48`	`Dovid`	`had to mod. many diff files`
`02:39.06`	`courtneyguy`	`did you try asterisk@home. thats even simpler.`
`02:39.17`	`Dovid`	`whats astersik@home ?`
`02:39.17`	`courtneyguy`	`its amp on an iso with wrapped up centos`
`02:39.23`	`Dovid`	`wow`
`02:39.28`	`Dovid`	`where can i get that ?`
`02:39.38`	`courtneyguy`	`http://asteriskathome.sourceforge.net/`
`02:40.18`	`courtneyguy`	`thats about as simple as it gets.`
`02:40.39`	`Dovid`	`lol`
`02:40.55`	`Dovid`	`i am working wit a linux nerd to create a cPanel for asterisk`
`02:42.05`	`courtneyguy`	`ah.`
`02:42.21`	`Dovid`	`any real market for it ?`
`02:42.36`	`Dovid`	`i am workin on making it so simple that any IT person can use it.`
`02:42.51`	`Blissex`	`Dovid: perhaps if you need a GUI/web based system you dont understand enough about networking or telephony to do it right...`
`02:42.57`	`Dovid`	`hehe`
`02:43.05`	`Dovid`	`i know, i am just lazzzzzzy`
`02:43.28`	`Dovid`	`my friend knows a lot more than me`
`02:43.47`	`Dovid`	`i just started playing with it`
`02:43.53`	`Dovid`	`asterisk blows my mind away`
`02:44.40`	`courtneyguy`	`alot of people like to get their hands dirty with this stuff. the power of asterisk is its extensibility. you lose that with gui automation..`
`02:44.46`	`courtneyguy`	`my opinion anyways.`
`02:45.26`	`loud`	`try to explain that to customers who dont know what cli is.`
`02:46.25`	`robl^`	`I always describe Asterisk is like "phone system building blocks". You can design and build any phone system you want. you just need to learn how the pieces snap together. :)`
`02:46.35`	`courtneyguy`	`yea but try to build an asterisk box to meet the customers needs with a gui. ;)`
`02:46.55`	`courtneyguy`	`robl: yea. better way to look at it.`
`02:46.59`	`Qwell`	`configuring * with a gui, is like making a building out of L shaped blocks`
`02:47.23`	`loud`	`courtneyguy, i agree, pain in the ass, as long as they can afford it.`
`02:47.52`	`robl^`	`well.. you build a CUSTOM system for a customer.. they only need a GUI to manage the day to day bits...like restting someone's voicemail password, changing the Caller ID Name when someone moves to a new office`
`02:48.13`	`[hC]`	`Ugh. I need a better dial macro that is smart enough to figure out if calls need to go via SIP or out an IAX link or a Zap channel`
`02:48.24`	`[hC]`	`I thought i had figured out a pretty good system but it doesnt appear to work as i had hoped.`
`02:48.29`	`[hC]`	`Almost, not quite.`
`02:49.23`	`courtneyguy`	`robl: but how hard is it to make a restricted gui to do just what they need.. generic gui's are hard to apply to every customer.`
`02:49.43`	`courtneyguy`	`a restricted one off gui is quick to throw together.`
`02:49.51`	`Dovid`	`yes`
`02:50.07`	`Dovid`	`u need to make a genereic gui that fits for all woth user access levels`
`02:50.47`	`Dovid`	`i am thinking of making a flow chart system`
`02:50.56`	`courtneyguy`	`david > easier said than done. you dont know what kind of functionality people will want. how do you design a gui for something where you dont know what its going to be used for?`
`02:51.03`	`Dovid`	`u select the channel on the gui and set what u want it to do etc.`
`02:51.22`	`Dovid`	`well u design a generic and then as u get more customers u add to it`
`02:51.27`	`courtneyguy`	`david > thats not unlike editing the configuration directly hehe`
`02:51.50`	`Dovid`	`ur right but for the average customer it will do`
`02:52.00`	`Dovid`	`it will belike dircet editing`
`02:52.04`	`Dovid`	`the gui will edit it`
`02:55.01`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`"channel" what is "channel"? The user does not know what it is and does not want to know. The user just wants to set up his phones`
`02:56.07`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`To add a phone to Asterisk you need to edit at least two or three files. Now what happens when you want to "remove" the phone?`
`02:57.07`	`Dovid`	`all in php scripts`
`02:57.32`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`And this is only the simple stuff. The dialplan has so many conflicting options that it is practically impossible to make a usable gui that will expose them all`
`02:57.52`	`Shido6`	`a dialplan logic module needs to be written for the gui`
`02:58.12`	`Dovid`	`when i am done i will show it to u`
`02:58.15`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Dovid, so you have to put some of your own logic in the script. And by doing that you have to limit the user`
`02:58.22`	`erik2`	`Courtneyguy/Dovid: I tried to write an Asterisk Web GUI. Damn hard. The problem is that there are so many configurations possible for Asterisk. You really need to trim down a GUI to only do the basic configurations. If you try and encapsulate Asterisk nearly infinite configurability into a GUI it will fail.`
`02:58.26`	`courtneyguy`	`im sure were all on the edge of our seats. hehe`
`02:58.34`	`Dovid`	`it will take a long time but it will be done`
`02:58.35`	`Dovid`	`hehe`
`02:59.08`	`courtneyguy`	`erik: yup which is why im not writing a gui. ;) i said above a restricted one is simple.. like viewing call stats.. active calls.. turning off extentions.. stuff like that but not generating entire dialplans etc.`
`02:59.09`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Anyway, I'm currently looking at DeStar, which looks quite nice`
`02:59.54`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`courtneyguy, why not? You can generate a rather generic dialplan that is easy to custom to most cases`
`03:00.19`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`s/you can/it is possible/`
`03:00.33`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`I figure you've already given up :-)`
`03:01.07`	`erik2`	`LOL. Asterisk GUI = a 2 year battle plan. Asterisk is not mainstream like Cisco only because Asterisk is a pain in the butt to configure`
`03:01.41`	`erik2`	`Little IT Joe cannot figure it out and Big IT Fred will not work for IT Joe's chump wages`
`03:02.28`	`courtneyguy`	`tzafrir_laptop> if all you want is something generic sure.. but theres plenty out there for that. like amp.`
`03:03.41`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`I don't really like amp. It looks flashy and that, but it is not well-built. Which is why I'm currently trying DeStar (that looks quite promising)`
`03:05.56`	`mgth`	`Asterisk is easy to configure you just have ot know what you are doing :)`
`03:06.33`	`robl^`	`asterisk is very easy to configure.. as soon as you learn the extension/dial plan language. that's about 90% of it`
`03:07.13`	`courtneyguy`	`the configuration is easy.. its making it work with specific phones.. or specific hardware..`
`03:14.00`	`bjohnson`	`I haven't seen a gui yet that doesn't make things simpler by taking away versatility`
`03:14.04`	`bjohnson`	`for anything`
`03:17.36`	`courtneyguy`	`bjohnson> yup. and asterisks power IS its versatility.`
`03:17.51`	`courtneyguy`	`hey anyone know why an incomming call wouldnt hear audio at all untill a handset picks up?`
`03:18.00`	`courtneyguy`	`like cant hear the menu, or even rings.`
`03:19.15`	`Saback`	`Who can help me with E1 configuration?`
`03:21.35`	`J[SS]`	`WIN 2`
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`03:31.10`	`PTG123`	`anyone here use netflix?`
`03:31.26`	`hardwire`	`s`
`03:31.27`	`hardwire`	`i`
`03:31.30`	`hardwire`	`<- does`
`03:32.23`	`PTG123`	`um`
`03:32.28`	`PTG123`	`hardwire do they always have movies available`
`03:32.36`	`PTG123`	`like right now is finding neverland and fat albert available?`
`03:32.49`	`PTG123`	`blockbuster is mising all the movies in my queue now and was thinking about switching`
`03:33.00`	`hardwire`	`because you are super impatient?`
`03:33.03`	`[hC]`	`PTG123: heh, thats a pretty basic FAQ question, go hit their page?`
`03:33.06`	`hardwire`	`online videos might not be for you`
`03:33.10`	`hardwire`	`err`
`03:33.13`	`hardwire`	`online ordering :)`
`03:33.43`	`PTG123`	`so i take that as a no? :) don't see anything in faq`
`03:33.49`	`PTG123`	`i use to buy the movies the day they come out :)`
`03:33.52`	`PTG123`	`i might have to go back to that`
`03:33.54`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: there is sometimes a waiting period`
`03:33.58`	`hardwire`	`does that make sense?`
`03:34.06`	`PTG123`	`well i have 10 movies in my queue, 10 are on hold`
`03:34.13`	`hardwire`	`well then that just sucks`
`03:34.33`	`PTG123`	`hc: where is this faq?`
`03:34.40`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: www.netflix.com`
`03:34.56`	`PTG123`	`i am there, i don;'t see any faq`
`03:35.17`	`hardwire`	`Finding Neverland has been added to your Queue at position 58.`
`03:35.17`	`hardwire`	`Currently, this movie has a short wait.`
`03:35.41`	`hardwire`	`you should probably use netflix/blockbuster-online for renting non-new-releases`
`03:35.42`	`PTG123`	`the other one is same way hardwire?`
`03:35.48`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: jesus`
`03:35.50`	`hardwire`	`I don't know`
`03:36.04`	`PTG123`	`i have seen every non new release :)`
`03:36.10`	`PTG123`	`my movie library has around 700 dvds`
`03:36.22`	`PTG123`	`ah screw it, i will just got back to buying them`
`03:36.23`	`hardwire`	`all I know is.. don't use mail-to-rent services for new releases and expect it will work.`
`03:36.33`	`*** join/#asterisk Shido (~greg@d57-87-253.home.cgocable.net)`
`03:36.37`	`PTG123`	`they should be smart enough to balance it`
`03:36.42`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: they do`
`03:36.47`	`PTG123`	`especially for someone with a 5 movie account`
`03:36.48`	`hardwire`	`they are just not balancing it to you`
`03:36.52`	`hardwire`	`oh jesus`
`03:36.55`	`hardwire`	`quit being a punk`
`03:37.42`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: how many people do you think have accounts with these services.. that might want to watch the same exact movie you do?`
`03:37.59`	`hardwire`	`2-4 other people in America?`
`03:38.25`	`PTG123`	`well blockbuster's stores can makme it work?`
`03:38.31`	`PTG123`	`so why can't the online system?`
`03:38.39`	`PTG123`	`especially since they remove the overhead of the shop, etc`
`03:38.46`	`PTG123`	`they are GUARANTEED in stock at the store`
`03:39.16`	`hardwire`	`then get the unlimited rental account.. right.. the one they offer.. that is except to all garantees :)`
`03:39.22`	`hardwire`	`thats what the online one is.`
`03:39.36`	`PTG123`	`uh that didn't make alot of sense :)`
`03:39.46`	`hardwire`	`excempt`
`03:39.54`	`hardwire`	`whatever`
`03:40.02`	`hardwire`	`do you have ay idea what I am getting at?`
`03:40.05`	`Qwell`	`exempt?`
`03:40.08`	`hardwire`	`there we go`
`03:40.37`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: I have often wanted to rent a movie that was out of stock at blockbuster next to my house.`
`03:40.40`	`hardwire`	`garanteed or not.`
`03:40.44`	`PTG123`	`not really, the bottom line is its not smart to have a customer with a queue full, and no movies sent out to him.. ok maybe a few in my queue should be unavailable but not all`
`03:40.50`	`PTG123`	`hardwire: not here`
`03:41.02`	`PTG123`	`the only reason i stopped renting was b/c of late fees mostly`
`03:41.04`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: then you are a spoiled pansy.`
`03:41.06`	`PTG123`	`and that is no more`
`03:41.13`	`courtneyguy`	`haha`
`03:41.35`	`PTG123`	`yah i expect service for my money, go figure`
`03:41.57`	`hardwire`	`bah..`
`03:42.00`	`hardwire`	`its overrated`
`03:42.17`	`hardwire`	`why don't you try adding something made in 2001 to your queue`
`03:42.54`	`*** join/#asterisk IQ (~iq@70-59-164-42.omah.qwest.net)`
`03:43.04`	`hardwire`	`say blockbuster has 14 nationwide shipping locations now for all the online customers.`
`03:43.24`	`PTG123`	`what part of having seen every movie did you not get?`
`03:43.26`	`hardwire`	`and 500+ of the movie you want in stock at each location`
`03:43.35`	`PTG123`	`i probably own every movie out since 2001`
`03:44.00`	`hardwire`	`thats still not enough if 20% of the subscribers want the same movie.`
`03:44.11`	`hardwire`	`5% even I would guess`
`03:44.21`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: then you don't need this service.`
`03:44.33`	`hardwire`	`because you should start up your own company doing the same thing.`
`03:44.35`	`PTG123`	`well if people stocked voip channels the same way they stocked movies :) i wouldn't be making many phone calls`
`03:44.46`	`hardwire`	`funny thing about that.`
`03:44.51`	`hardwire`	`I don't mail my voice conversations.`
`03:45.08`	`PTG123`	`why because you are making it cheaper for the company should you get LESS service?`
`03:45.22`	`PTG123`	`do you realize how much their profit margains raise with mailing movies?`
`03:45.27`	`elriah`	`Man, I can't get agi 'stream file' to work at all, any of you have any luck with this? I've tried it on deb with * 1.0.5, now on redhat 9 with the latest cvs build, agi debug is on, no error messages, returns 0, just doens't play the file.. I'm not using any file extensions..`
`03:45.53`	`PTG123`	`elriah, this channel is run like blockbuster, no service :)`
`03:45.59`	`elriah`	`heh`
`03:46.10`	`hardwire`	`elriah: I would help if I knew jack about AGI`
`03:46.15`	`PTG123`	`elriah, if your gonna run asterisk you need to know C :) hehe`
`03:46.18`	`elriah`	`Usually it's pretty helpful.. probably because everybody else is out having a life on sat night ..`
`03:46.28`	`hardwire`	`exactly.`
`03:46.31`	`hardwire`	`why am I here?`
`03:46.33`	`PTG123`	`elriah, doubtful, they just don't want us to know they don't have a life`
`03:46.43`	`*** join/#asterisk zotz (~zotz@24.231.32.191)`
`03:46.51`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: speaking of not having a life :)`
`03:47.07`	`PTG123`	`my life ended when i had kids`
`03:47.08`	`PTG123`	`heh`
`03:47.18`	`PTG123`	`why do you think i need my stupid movies`
`03:47.56`	`PTG123`	`i get free blockbuster coupons with blockbuster online, i guess i could always use them`
`03:48.09`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: I am guessing, somewhere in a faq somewhere or a license agreement on their site they specifically state that they are not garanteed to get you a movie as soon as its in your queue.. and expecting such is sheer lunacy.`
`03:48.27`	`PTG123`	`i have no doubt they say that`
`03:48.33`	`PTG123`	`but missing all of them in my queue is unexcusable`
`03:48.39`	`hardwire`	`then you should not doubt the quality of service that comes along with that`
`03:48.44`	`hardwire`	`because that statement is there for a reason`
`03:49.30`	`hardwire`	`netflix has a wonderfull quality of service for my personality.. because I rent things I haven't seen from the past, educational films, and films after the hype typically calms down.`
`03:49.58`	`[hC]`	`I'm trying to rethink my dial macro here a little bit, and im trying really hard to use one macro for both incoming and outgoing calls, somewhat of a superdial macro that does everything i need, including detection of which way it needs to place calls, and im a little stuck, and i think it might be because im trying to make one macro do too much.`
`03:49.58`	`[hC]`	`Everyone else seems to split in- and out- macros apart in the examples i see`
`03:49.59`	`[hC]`	`Anyone have any thoughts?`
`03:50.01`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: maybe you shouldn't put all high demand movies in your queue`
`03:50.10`	`hardwire`	`if they aren't in stock.. they aren't in stock..`
`03:50.12`	`hardwire`	`simple as that`
`03:50.30`	`hardwire`	`they could very well eliviate that by going out on monday.. and getting ahold of more copies.. just to fullfill your order.`
`03:51.14`	`hardwire`	`but they aren't going to be shipping any more movies when the USPS stops.`
`03:51.28`	`PTG123`	`man i wish most customer were like you`
`03:51.32`	`PTG123`	`it would be easy to have a business`
`03:51.45`	`IQ`	`Hi, Do I need to open UDP:5060 or TCP:5060 for external connections ?`
`03:51.56`	`hardwire`	`IQ: more info on thw wiki`
`03:52.01`	`hardwire`	`not just those`
`03:52.04`	`[hC]`	`IQ: UDP, but you need RTP too.`
`03:52.05`	`hardwire`	`but RTP ports as well`
`03:52.17`	`hardwire`	`~wiki firewall`
`03:52.46`	`IQ`	`thanks :)`
`03:52.49`	`hardwire`	`damnit`
`03:52.57`	`hardwire`	`thats wikipedia :)`
`03:53.02`	`hardwire`	`~voip-info firewall`
`03:53.03`	`hardwire`	`hehe`
`03:54.09`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: having a billion stupid customers that can't read the fine print doesn't mean my business has to change.. only that my customers need to become more educated..`
`03:54.17`	`hardwire`	`thats why I don't cater to the public.`
`03:55.39`	`hardwire`	`netflix gets around a lot of this by having a rating system that has worked really well for the life of its company.`
`03:55.49`	`bkw_`	`what?`
`03:56.06`	`hardwire`	`and that allowed them to properly balance their customers queues w/ minimal wait time`
`03:56.30`	`hardwire`	`but I am guessing the first few months of initial data collection made it hell.`
`03:56.39`	`hardwire`	`bkw_: ?`
`03:56.55`	`PTG123`	`i already downgraded my account`
`03:57.39`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: so when did you get the account?`
`03:57.58`	`PTG123`	`2 months ago`
`03:58.03`	`hardwire`	`ok`
`03:58.11`	`hardwire`	`anyways.. I have taxes to do`
`03:58.20`	`IQ`	`for RTP, do I use TCP as my router doesn't have RTP`
`03:58.41`	`PTG123`	`IQ: udp?`
`03:58.54`	`bkw_`	`close your netflix`
`03:58.56`	`IQ`	`PTG123: yes, it has udp`
`03:58.58`	`bkw_`	`and open a new account once a year`
`03:59.05`	`PTG123`	`bkw_ what does that do?`
`03:59.11`	`PTG123`	`IQ: thats what you need, RTP runs on UDP`
`03:59.17`	`bkw_`	`netflix will throttle your ass if you rent alot`
`03:59.25`	`IQ`	`PTG123: I didn't know that. thanks`
`03:59.34`	`tainted-`	`PTG123 you crack me up`
`03:59.45`	`hardwire`	`bkw_: I haven't seen that w/ my account.`
`03:59.47`	`PTG123`	`bkw_: really? I am using blockbusters its not bad for that.. but my problem is no new releases.. so my queue has a ton of movies with short wait`
`04:00.02`	`PTG123`	`tainted-, glad i can entertain someone`
`04:00.14`	`bkw_`	`hardwire, you have to wait for new releases longer`
`04:00.17`	`bkw_`	`by as much as a week`
`04:00.27`	`bkw_`	`unless you're lucky as hell`
`04:00.31`	`hardwire`	`bkw_: doh..`
`04:00.33`	`hardwire`	`what account do you have?`
`04:00.39`	`bkw_`	`had the 8 out`
`04:00.40`	`courtneyguy`	`anyone have any clue why a call wouldnt hear the audio in the menu.. or the rings.. but hear audio perfectly once the handset is picked up on the receiving end?`
`04:00.45`	`hardwire`	`bkw_: 3 here`
`04:00.46`	`bkw_`	`if you do 8 out`
`04:00.49`	`bkw_`	`and you mail out 1 a day`
`04:00.50`	`bkw_`	`ever day`
`04:00.52`	`bkw_`	`and two on sat`
`04:00.55`	`hardwire`	`I obviously don't rent as much as you guys :)`
`04:00.57`	`bkw_`	`you'll always get movies in the mail`
`04:01.13`	`bkw_`	`and to really piss netflix off`
`04:01.17`	`bkw_`	`return movies two per envelope`
`04:01.25`	`bkw_`	`so they can't delay processing`
`04:01.31`	`PTG123`	`bkw_: i was doing that with 5, worked pretty decient.. but they never sent me any of the new ones.. always the older ones in my queue.. now i have seen them all and have no movies :)`
`04:01.49`	`bkw_`	`we are on 3 out now`
`04:01.51`	`elriah`	`Hi guys, I'm trying to setup a iax to iax (two asterisk boxes) connection, I'm following the wiki, but I'm confused at the iax.conf [general] register => user:pass@host part, what username as password should I be using? A UNIX username/pass?`
`04:01.52`	`hardwire`	`bkw_: they should start charging you for damaging discs if you have that kind of profile w/ them.`
`04:01.54`	`[hC]`	`bkw_: I was told you might have some links to some well-done extensions.conf files that i could look at for inspiration. I'm trying to pull off a few things that im having a hard time working some of the bugs out of and I want to take a look at some good examples to stir the imagination. Can you help?`
`04:01.57`	`hardwire`	`doubling up scratches the shit out of them`
`04:02.00`	`bkw_`	`hardwire, no`
`04:02.02`	`bkw_`	`read the faq`
`04:02.07`	`hardwire`	`I have`
`04:02.10`	`hardwire`	`they don't`
`04:02.11`	`bkw_`	`you put two disc's in their envelops`
`04:02.16`	`bkw_`	`separate`
`04:02.22`	`bkw_`	`it says YOU CAN do that`
`04:02.26`	`hardwire`	`nm`
`04:02.27`	`bkw_`	`mail it back two per mailer`
`04:02.30`	`hardwire`	`I forgot that they have sleeves`
`04:02.32`	`bkw_`	`it saves them money`
`04:02.34`	`PTG123`	`heh and hardwire was just going on about how no one reads the fine print :)`
`04:02.35`	`bkw_`	`:P`
`04:02.41`	`PTG123`	`read that fine print damn it`
`04:02.42`	`hardwire`	`PTG123: I have read it`
`04:02.56`	`Saback`	`" No channel map, no channel, and no ds1? What am I supposed to identify? "`
`04:03.37`	`hardwire`	`but I definatly don't rent as much as you guys`
`04:03.38`	`PTG123`	`i have to say i am impressed with blockbuster they get the movie the next day`
`04:03.41`	`PTG123`	`and ship it same day they get it`
`04:03.58`	`PTG123`	`and i get the movies next day`
`04:04.05`	`tainted-`	`i have no idea what u guys are ranting about`
`04:04.08`	`PTG123`	`but they have a monopoly on movies, i am sure they could get more new releases`
`04:04.16`	`PTG123`	`tainted-, online movie rentals`
`04:04.20`	`tainted-`	`but the comment about escaping to movies b/c u have kids cracks me up`
`04:04.49`	`PTG123`	`tainted-, haha, you have kids?`
`04:05.09`	`courtneyguy`	`ok so if no one has any idea why the sound wouldnt work before the call is answered.. does anyone know how sound is transmitted differently before the call is answered? obviously something is different.`
`04:05.30`	`newl`	`I'd rather sit in the comfort of my leather recliner and watch a movie on my 2m screeen in 16:9. Being able to pause a movie to go for food or a leak is great. =)`
`04:05.52`	`PTG123`	`newl, i same here.. and my sound system is better then any theater i have been in :)`
`04:06.15`	`*** join/#asterisk unixgeek (~unixgeek@216-220-234-197.exploremaine.com)`
`04:06.19`	`PTG123`	`courtneyguy, saturday nights this channel turns into #chatzone you got to go to #chatzone for asterisk help`
`04:06.27`	`Shido`	`thats why I love my ati`
`04:06.29`	`newl`	`PTG123: ditto. :)`
`04:06.32`	`courtneyguy`	`lol`
`04:06.59`	`PTG123`	`i even made one of those media pcs to play movies, b/c the sound quality coming from its digital out was better then any dvd player i could find :)`
`04:08.34`	`hardwire`	`courtneyguy: are you using Answer()?`
`04:09.18`	`IQ`	`for RTP, do I need top open 10000 to 20000 UDP ports?`
`04:09.35`	`fugitivo`	`if I want to use festival to tell the people which number they should enter, and then i want to get the dtmf tones, do i use Read?`
`04:09.43`	`courtneyguy`	`hardwire, yes.`
`04:09.46`	`hardwire`	`IQ: dude`
`04:09.48`	`hardwire`	`http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20firewall%20rules`
`04:09.56`	`tzanger`	`meh`
`04:10.08`	`hardwire`	`courtneyguy: funky.. what about adding a short delay?`
`04:10.22`	`courtneyguy`	`hardwire, the asterisk logs show everythign working correctly. and If i run monitor.. the recording sounds perfect.`
`04:10.50`	`courtneyguy`	`hardwire, i can even navigate the menu from the incoming call by watching the console to see what menu im in. but no sound untill i get to an extention and it picks up.`
`04:11.01`	`hardwire`	`funky.. typically my server is just bogged down or in ultra verbose mode whenever that kind of stuff happens`
`04:11.11`	`IQ`	`hardwire: I read the page. just one confusion about RTP. Maybe I'm not reading it right`
`04:11.15`	`hardwire`	`oh weird`
`04:11.28`	`hardwire`	`IQ: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20config%20rtp.conf`
`04:11.50`	`[hC]`	`Hey guys.. Im looking for some links to some "well done" extensions.conf files with really efficient dial plans, can anyone point me in a direction?`
`04:12.23`	`PTG123`	`hey guys how do i make asterisk make toast when i dial the phone number? Oh and coffee`
`04:12.29`	`courtneyguy`	`im completely lost as to what to try. i mean if audio didnt work at all.. i could investigate it.. if monitor() agreed with what i heard. i could investigate that.. but it just doesnt make sense to me. hehe`
`04:13.18`	`elriah`	`Man, I can't get agi 'stream file' to work at all, any of you have any luck with this? I've tried it on deb with * 1.0.5, now on redhat 9 with the latest cvs build, agi debug is on, no error messages, returns 0, just doens't play the file.. I'm not using any file extensions..`
`04:13.57`	`newl`	`PTG123: You need load => app_toast.so in modules.conf and exten => _X,1,Toast() in extensions.conf`
`04:14.21`	`newl`	`Coffee is extra. 8)`
`04:14.22`	`PTG123`	`newl, i can't find that module`
`04:14.29`	`PTG123`	`:)`
`04:14.36`	`PTG123`	`you know i think i could code that using x10`
`04:14.45`	`PTG123`	`sounds like a project`
`04:14.48`	`newl`	`haha probably could`
`04:15.03`	`*** join/#asterisk hermie (~nick@24.236.167.53.bay.mi.chartermi.net)`
`04:15.38`	`*** join/#asterisk Sedorox (brandon@Neptune-W.client.wlgrv.pa.sed6.net)`
`04:23.48`	`*** join/#asterisk marc324 (~marc32344@69-90-241-15.dsl.teksavvy.com)`
`04:25.19`	`elriah`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:25.28`	`elriah`	`Anyone know what would cause this? Here's my connection:`
`04:25.39`	`elriah`	`exten => _8XX,1,dial(iax2/ipbx022:ipbx@ipbx01/${EXTEN:1},30,r)`
`04:28.31`	`Sedorox`	`phone's trying to connect to the asterisk box.. from that IP address... check the iax.conf file`
`04:28.58`	`Essobi`	`Hey.. how do I prevent a sip phone from forwarding it's credentials to another * box through a dial?`
`04:29.58`	`Essobi`	`Mmmm. It's kinda weird it even does that.`
`04:31.11`	`elriah`	`Yea, it's an asterisk to asterisk call...`
`04:31.32`	`bkw_`	`DO NOT PUT PASSWORDS IN THE DIAL STRING`
`04:31.39`	`elriah`	`Ahh.`
`04:31.41`	`bkw_`	`they end up in the cdr records`
`04:31.45`	`bkw_`	`and the console`
`04:31.57`	`elriah`	`The wiki told me to do it ;p`
`04:31.57`	`bkw_`	`it should be in the ipbx01 entry in iax.conf`
`04:32.01`	`bkw_`	`the wiki is full of shit`
`04:32.05`	`file[laptop]`	`bkw_: lobster in the eye!`
`04:32.26`	`elriah`	`heh`
`04:32.29`	`Sedorox`	`the wiki is from people like me.. who sit in a corner and jack on on a asterisk box hoping it'll form a extention :-p`
`04:32.30`	`Sedorox`	`j/k`
`04:32.33`	`elriah`	`Well, same result there.`
`04:33.06`	`tzanger`	`oh my`
`04:33.09`	`tzanger`	`jacking on an asterisk box`
`04:33.14`	`tzanger`	`that doesn't sound PG-13 at all`
`04:33.26`	`Sedorox`	`since when is this channel PG-13?`
`04:33.26`	`file[laptop]`	`it's 12:30AM here, PG-13 goes out the window`
`04:33.45`	`Sedorox`	`:-p`
`04:33.49`	`mishehu`	`I thought this channel was R rated... R standing for "Really?"`
`04:33.51`	`Sedorox`	`its 11:33 here`
`04:33.58`	`file[laptop]`	`there's a chair at the foot of my bed, and it scares me`
`04:34.04`	`file[laptop]`	`I look up from my laptop and there it is... out of place`
`04:34.45`	`mishehu`	`file[laptop]: it is following you`
`04:34.51`	`mishehu`	`waiting for the right time to strike`
`04:35.01`	`mishehu`	`it is tired of being your ass rest`
`04:35.02`	`mishehu`	`heh`
`04:35.04`	`Sedorox`	`file[laptop]: its wants your ass back in it :-p`
`04:35.05`	`file[laptop]`	`probably`
`04:35.31`	`file[laptop]`	`so... been looking at apartments and houses... setting up appointments for Monday... found a few nice places`
`04:39.46`	`*** join/#asterisk robl^ (~robl@dsl093-025-118.hou1.dsl.speakeasy.net)`
`04:43.07`	`PTG123`	`file[laptop], you still awake?`
`04:43.34`	`file[laptop]`	`yes`
`04:43.55`	`*** join/#asterisk jdg (~jdg@CA03F9E9.adsl.mana.pf)`
`04:44.28`	`PTG123`	`file[laptop], know anything about chan_sip?`
`04:44.39`	`file[laptop]`	`if I say yes, what do I have to do?`
`04:44.46`	`PTG123`	`file[laptop], answer a quick question`
`04:44.50`	`file[laptop]`	`sure`
`04:45.18`	`Essobi`	`bkw_ I'm not putting passwords in my dial string. :)`
`04:45.21`	`PTG123`	`realtime sets stuff in global flags all the time, is their a reason?`
`04:45.30`	`file[laptop]`	`oh see you weren't specific :p`
`04:45.38`	`PTG123`	`looks like its constantly changeing the global flags`
`04:45.50`	`file[laptop]`	`give me a line number`
`04:46.42`	`Essobi`	`Is there a reason when my 7960 calls box A, and box a matches to exten => 1111,1,Dial(95551212@boxb)... it's trying to auth with the username of my 7960?`
`04:46.46`	`PTG123`	`ok let me dig one up`
`04:46.47`	`PTG123`	`one sec`
`04:47.09`	`Essobi`	`err.. auth with my 7950 line name on box B..`
`04:47.14`	`Essobi`	`7960 even..`
`04:47.24`	`file[laptop]`	`Essobi: you're making about as much sense to me as zoa drunk`
`04:47.31`	`Essobi`	`lol`
`04:47.38`	`Essobi`	`Okay.. Here.. I got two * machines.`
`04:47.43`	`Essobi`	`I got 1 7960.`
`04:47.53`	`Essobi`	`7960 is on box A.. registered`
`04:48.53`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`04:48.54`	`PTG123`	`file[laptop], it could be fixed in latest chan_sip it looks like`
`04:48.56`	`Sedorox`	`sounds kinky`
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`04:49.14`	`file[laptop]`	`oh now this is ironic`
`04:49.19`	`file[laptop]`	`it has the name of "Mr. Munchy"`
`04:49.29`	`Essobi`	`I dial 95851212 on my 7960, it matches on box a, to exten => 95851212,1,Dial(SIP/95851212@boxB\|30,t)`
`04:49.54`	`Essobi`	`Box B is showing an authentication failure, for the username on my 7960..`
`04:50.05`	`file[laptop]`	`mmm From header`
`04:50.35`	`file[laptop]`	`ooh this has rice crips`
`04:50.55`	`Mavvie`	`AST_OPTION_TDD <- anybody understands what TDD is?`
`04:51.00`	`elriah`	`Anyone seen this: app_dial.c:960 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'Sip' (cause 3)`
`04:51.06`	`PTG123`	`Essobi, you applied the sip patches?`
`04:51.30`	`file[laptop]`	`Mavvie: where do you see that`
`04:51.33`	`file[laptop]`	`and where is my Jones Soda`
`04:52.06`	`Mavvie`	`file[laptop]: channels/chan_zap.c, in zt_setoption()`
`04:52.27`	`file[laptop]`	`okay further ironic`
`04:52.29`	`PTG123`	`file[laptop], can i just set peer->capability to peer->prefs?`
`04:52.50`	`file[laptop]`	`under my Jones Soda cap it says... "Many people are seeking you for worthwhile advice."`
`04:52.51`	`PTG123`	`why the seperation?`
`04:53.02`	`PTG123`	`oh this is why codec ranking doesn't work`
`04:54.05`	`Mavvie`	`oh! TTY for hearing impared.`
`04:54.08`	`file[laptop]`	`Mavvie: yeah`
`04:54.12`	`file[laptop]`	`beat me to it :p`
`04:54.34`	`PTG123`	`file[laptop], can i ask you one question? :) why the seperation of peers and users?`
`04:54.49`	`file[laptop]`	`peers are where you place calls, users place calls to you`
`04:54.51`	`file[laptop]`	`that's the way it is.`
`04:55.14`	`elriah`	`Anyone seen this: app_dial.c:960 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'Sip' (cause 3)`
`04:55.15`	`PTG123`	`hmm`
`04:55.44`	`file[laptop]`	`and nobody better speak up about the exception with a sip peer`
`04:55.51`	`file[laptop]`	`because I don't feel like talking about that`
`04:55.54`	`file[laptop]`	`... yeah`
`04:56.08`	`Essobi`	`PTG123 What sip patches?`
`04:56.16`	`Mavvie`	`file[laptop]: it's just that I try to find a way to disable echo cancellation on certain channels, and am right now seeing if I should/could do it in the Dial command.`
`04:56.25`	`Essobi`	`PTG123 I don't normally use sip phones.`
`04:56.31`	`file[laptop]`	`Mavvie: have fun :)`
`04:56.32`	`Essobi`	`directly on *`
`04:56.34`	`Mavvie`	`s/channels/extensions`
`04:56.36`	`PTG123`	`Essobi, the ones for sip user auths, dial strings, etc`
`04:56.49`	`Essobi`	`Anope.`
`04:56.49`	`PTG123`	`file[laptop], what exception`
`04:56.56`	`PTG123`	`Essobi, although your boxes are tired together through iax?`
`04:57.01`	`Essobi`	`I'm running my old production -head and a brand spanking new -head.`
`04:57.04`	`file[laptop]`	`PTG123: a sip peer can be authenticated to place a call through your box, instead of a user`
`04:57.08`	`Essobi`	`Uhh.. No.. Don't use IAX.`
`04:57.28`	`Essobi`	`file[laptop] that's what I'm doing.`
`04:57.31`	`PTG123`	`file[laptop], i just don't get the seperation.. its the same device attached to the same account if it does both, if it doesn't a nice flag would surfice`
`04:57.41`	`Essobi`	`but it's trying to auth as a user for some dame reason.`
`04:57.42`	`file[laptop]`	`PTG123: there's other reasons...`
`04:57.49`	`file[laptop]`	`Essobi: insecure=very?`
`04:57.51`	`PTG123`	`file[laptop], like?`
`04:57.53`	`Essobi`	`yup`
`04:58.03`	`file[laptop]`	`Essobi: do a sip debug and see who it is matching against`
`04:58.15`	`PTG123`	`Essobi, i would help you but my 7960 goes through my own peer/user builder so i have no idea what the conf file should have`
`04:58.19`	`file[laptop]`	`PTG123: ask kram`
`04:58.25`	`*** join/#asterisk JerJer[mobile] (proxyuser@adsl-66-143-63-132.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net)`
`04:58.35`	`Essobi`	`very and yes.. neither work`
`04:58.41`	`Essobi`	`oh`
`04:58.48`	`PTG123`	`file[laptop], kram doesn't appear to be here at the moment`
`04:58.52`	`Essobi`	`you think it's matching against someone else?`
`04:58.59`	`file[laptop]`	`Essobi: possibly, sip debug and see`
`04:59.05`	`file[laptop]`	`PTG123: he can tell you`
`04:59.07`	`elriah`	`Nobody? dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'Sip' (cause 3)`
`04:59.23`	`PTG123`	`file[laptop], but you don't know ofd any reason at the moment`
`04:59.32`	`PTG123`	`elriah, yes the sip patches fixed that for me`
`04:59.33`	`file[laptop]`	`I do but it's long, tedious, and it's 1AM`
`04:59.36`	`Essobi`	`file[laptop] That's pretty lame..`
`04:59.44`	`PTG123`	`http://loans.wa2fast.com/patch.txt for both of you, can't hurt to try`
`04:59.47`	`file[laptop]`	`I'm keeping my thinking to a minimal`
`04:59.58`	`JerJer[mobile]`	`ditto`
`04:59.59`	`Essobi`	`file[laptop] I had a user that was the same as the username@server of my phone`
`05:00.05`	`elriah`	`Well, it works if I go 1.0.7 -> 1.0.5, but if I dial on 1.0.5 -> 1.0.7, get that message. What version you running?`
`05:00.18`	`file[laptop]`	`Essobi: aha`
`05:00.22`	`Essobi`	`so user 555 was matching the username on my phone and matching it before it was looking for the peer.`
`05:00.32`	`file[laptop]`	`users take priority`
`05:00.36`	`Essobi`	`Pretty ghetto.`
`05:00.40`	`Essobi`	`that should be configurable.`
`05:00.43`	`file[laptop]`	`SIP is just fun`
`05:00.45`	`*** join/#asterisk mogorman (~Susie@adsl-220-160-214.mob.bellsouth.net)`
`05:00.47`	`PTG123`	`see another problem with the seperation :)`
`05:00.56`	`file[laptop]`	`PTG123: oh quiet you, there's damn good reasons`
`05:01.01`	`Essobi`	`;)`
`05:01.02`	`PTG123`	`i am striping it out in chan_sipPTG.so`
`05:01.06`	`PTG123`	`heh`
`05:01.24`	`elriah`	`Man, I can't get agi 'stream file' to work at all, any of you have any luck with this? I've tried it on deb with * 1.0.5, now on redhat 9 with the latest cvs build, agi debug is on, no error messages, returns 0, just doens't play the file..`
`05:01.40`	`CoolAcid`	`Anyone mind helping me with * and SipPhone incoming dialing?`
`05:01.54`	`PTG123`	`CoolAcid, apply the patch :)`
`05:02.01`	`CoolAcid`	`patch?`
`05:02.14`	`PTG123`	`scroll up`
`05:02.19`	`CoolAcid`	`your kidding.. i've been beating my self for how long..`
`05:02.30`	`JerJer[mobile]`	`TMI`
`05:02.33`	`courtneyguy`	`might as well re-itterate my problem as well. hehe. anyone have any clue why an incomming call has no audio (cant hear voice menu's.. or ringing) untill the receiving handset picks up (and then audio is fine)`
`05:02.42`	`JerJer[mobile]`	`keep your beating off to yourself`
`05:02.47`	`JerJer[mobile]`	`please`
`05:03.11`	`CoolAcid`	`Har har, jerjer`
`05:03.11`	`PTG123`	`courtneyguy, yes i know why`
`05:04.16`	`courtneyguy`	`well. lets have it`
`05:04.18`	`file[laptop]`	`yay trance`
`05:04.26`	`PTG123`	`courtneyguy, you have a firewall?`
`05:04.28`	`CoolAcid`	`the patch fixes unable to create sip correct? (that's not my problem tho :)`
`05:04.39`	`file[laptop]`	`firewall? silence suppression? nat?`
`05:05.04`	`courtneyguy`	`yup and i use a sip-proxy.. but the audio works bi-directionally once the handset picks up.. so audio does travel both directions then.`
`05:05.12`	`courtneyguy`	`why would audio work after the handset picks up. but not before.`
`05:05.15`	`PTG123`	`courtneyguy, your firewall doesn't know where to route till call i splaced`
`05:05.20`	`PTG123`	`is the registration done properly?`
`05:05.34`	`PTG123`	`the firewall is blocking it, till the device inside it sends an rtp packet`
`05:05.37`	`courtneyguy`	`the firewall doesnt have to. it runs to the asterisk box.. the asterisk box and the handset are both local`
`05:05.39`	`PTG123`	`then it leaves it open for communications`
`05:05.47`	`courtneyguy`	`so the firewall sees nothing different after the call goes to the handset.`
`05:06.06`	`courtneyguy`	`since asterisk picks it up`
`05:06.32`	`courtneyguy`	`how can i get asterisk to send the rtp packet then. since i want asterisk to pickup the calls.. shouldnt asterisk send out the rtp packet?`
`05:07.27`	`courtneyguy`	`i mean the call is answered when its going through the menu's as far as the provider is concerned..`
`05:07.33`	`file[laptop]`	`is silence suppression disabled on the phone?`
`05:07.40`	`PTG123`	`the more i understand this chan_sip code, the more scared i get`
`05:08.05`	`file[laptop]`	`PTG123: and we're the most compliant SIP stack in existence!`
`05:08.08`	`courtneyguy`	`file > the problem is the audio doesnt work way before it gets to the phone. once it gets to the phone. audio is fine.`
`05:09.23`	`file[laptop]`	`courtneyguy: I'd say you have some funky issues, that I won't dive into right now but if it's not fixed by like tomorrow catch me then`
`05:09.23`	`courtneyguy`	`like going through the asterisk menu's i have to just watch the console to see where im at to navigate them to get to a handset. hehe`
`05:09.41`	`file[laptop]`	`but make sure silence suppression is disabled...`
`05:10.08`	`courtneyguy`	`but this is on the provider side. dialing from a pstn number`
`05:10.18`	`file[laptop]`	`ah see I never knew that :p`
`05:10.27`	`courtneyguy`	`hehe`
`05:10.32`	`file[laptop]`	`details help`
`05:10.35`	`courtneyguy`	`this is inbound from outside`
`05:10.42`	`courtneyguy`	`i thought i had stated alredy ;)`
`05:10.47`	`CoolAcid`	`Ahhhh.. finnaly notices the issue.. "482 Loop detected" when trying to call my self..`
`05:11.47`	`courtneyguy`	`do you know if asterisk sends the audio differently under the hood for menu's than it does once a phone picks up?..`
`05:12.04`	`file[laptop]`	`courtneyguy: can you paste me a sip debug of the stuff from your provider and such when you're doing the menus?`
`05:12.12`	`courtneyguy`	`like maybe it assumes the encoding type of the handset.. or some way of managing bi-directional audio changes.. etc.`
`05:12.17`	`courtneyguy`	`yea`
`05:12.23`	`file[laptop]`	`nah, in reality it's all the same`
`05:12.41`	`file[laptop]`	`it's just audio frames into the channel...`
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`05:16.10`	`PTG123`	`courtneyguy, is it sending inband dtmfs?`
`05:17.08`	`*** join/#asterisk montoya (montoya@200.195.87.8)`
`05:17.55`	`courtneyguy`	`yes`
`05:18.00`	`courtneyguy`	`- Executing Answer("SIP/xxxxxxxxxx-1848", "") in new stack`
`05:18.01`	`courtneyguy`	`Urgent handler`
`05:18.01`	`courtneyguy`	`Launching 'BackGround'`
`05:18.01`	`courtneyguy`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:18.01`	`courtneyguy`	`Urgent handler`
`05:18.01`	`courtneyguy`	`Set channel SIP/xxxxxxxxxx-1848 to write format gsm`
`05:18.03`	`courtneyguy`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:18.05`	`courtneyguy`	`Urgent handler`
`05:18.07`	`file[laptop]`	`eek don't do that`
`05:18.07`	`courtneyguy`	`Detected DTMF '1'`
`05:18.09`	`courtneyguy`	`Set channel SIP/xxxxxxxxxx-1848 to write format ulaw`
`05:18.13`	`courtneyguy`	`Oooh, got something to jump out with ('1')!`
`05:18.15`	`courtneyguy`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:18.17`	`courtneyguy`	`Urgent handler`
`05:18.19`	`courtneyguy`	`Launching 'Playback'`
`05:18.21`	`courtneyguy`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:18.23`	`courtneyguy`	`Urgent handler`
`05:18.25`	`courtneyguy`	`Set channel SIP/xxxxxxxxxx-1848 to write format gsm`
`05:18.27`	`courtneyguy`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:18.29`	`courtneyguy`	`Urgent handler`
`05:18.31`	`courtneyguy`	`Sending dtmf: 49 (1), at x.x.x.x`
`05:18.33`	`courtneyguy`	`ouch.. sorry bout that`
`05:18.35`	`courtneyguy`	`i yea i thought i grabbed a smaller chunk`
`05:18.37`	`courtneyguy`	`lol`
`05:18.39`	`courtneyguy`	`my apologies.`
`05:18.49`	`file[laptop]`	`well, atleast you apologized and realized your mistake`
`05:18.54`	`file[laptop]`	`that's an improvement over other individuals`
`05:18.58`	`[hC]`	`Im trying to hide my username and password in the iax peer config in iax.conf, I got this to work just fine with fwd, but for voipjet for example, it seems to still want me to pass IAX2/user@voipjet - ie it lets me omit the password but still insists that i send the username, why would it ignore the username= i put in the iax peer config?`
`05:19.24`	`courtneyguy`	`haha`
`05:19.29`	`CoolAcid`	`oh great.. now siphone is ignoring my register`
`05:19.33`	`file[laptop]`	`courtneyguy: now, grab me a sip debug and I'll be happy`
`05:20.36`	`courtneyguy`	`what part do you want?`
`05:20.39`	`file[laptop]`	`dreaming of youuuu`
`05:20.44`	`file[laptop]`	`courtneyguy: the entire thing is fine`
`05:21.22`	`cactus1`	`cut my wrists and black my eyes`
`05:21.26`	`cactus1`	`so i can fall asleep tonight`
`05:21.47`	`file[laptop]`	`I tell you baby all my dreams come true`
`05:21.52`	`file[laptop]`	`when I'm laying next to you`
`05:21.54`	`file[laptop]`	`is that so wrong?`
`05:22.08`	`file[laptop]`	`I tell you baby all my dreams come true... be there where you are so I hold on`
`05:22.10`	`file[laptop]`	`dreaming of you`
`05:22.17`	`t0pCop`	`Can anyone point me to resouces for VoIP newbie please`
`05:22.26`	`file[laptop]`	`http://www.voip-info.org/`
`05:22.28`	`file[laptop]`	`~useful asterisk docs`
`05:22.29`	`jbot`	`useful asterisk docs is probably it has been said that useful asterisk docs is (BOOKMARK THEM!): http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation (look at the "Unnoficial Links") and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk (the Wiki), and http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk (ManxPower's site), and http://asteriskdocs.org, also, read all files in ...`
`05:22.37`	`file[laptop]`	`there you go`
`05:22.59`	`CoolAcid`	`"Wake me up... before you go go.. "`
`05:23.02`	`t0pCop`	`Thanks file`
`05:23.30`	`file[laptop]`	`yw`
`05:24.05`	`t0pCop`	`jbot, yeah I will`
`05:24.39`	`*** join/#asterisk mogorman (~Susie@adsl-220-160-214.mob.bellsouth.net)`
`05:28.53`	`file[laptop]`	`t0pCop: messaging people without asking is rude, and asking your question in here allows everyone to learn!`
`05:29.02`	`file[laptop]`	`t0pCop: and the answer is, yes, now go read how`
`05:29.21`	`file[laptop]`	`courtneyguy: it was rejected... you can e-mail it to joshnet@nbnet.nb.ca`
`05:29.34`	`t0pCop`	`sorry file`
`05:30.15`	`t0pCop`	`it looks like a stupid question to me so`
`05:30.34`	`t0pCop`	`i'm afraid to ask in the channel`
`05:30.41`	`file[laptop]`	`yes, is the answer`
`05:30.42`	`Essobi`	`yea`
`05:30.50`	`Essobi`	`we'll retort with RTFS.`
`05:30.51`	`Essobi`	`:)`
`05:31.03`	`file[laptop]`	`read chan_sip and go insane! YAY!`
`05:31.09`	`Essobi`	`Haha.`
`05:31.15`	`Essobi`	`I have read chan_sip.`
`05:31.29`	`Essobi`	`chan_h323 isn't so fun either.`
`05:31.52`	`Essobi`	`Worse enough, I've hacked on chan_h323. :)`
`05:31.52`	`PTG123`	`don't read chan_sip`
`05:31.54`	`PTG123`	`its bad reading`
`05:32.20`	`file[laptop]`	`very bad reading`
`05:33.10`	`CoolAcid`	`ok.. what I break.. all of a sudden * can't register on sipphone.. tested with softphone and was able to register ok.`
`05:35.19`	`CoolAcid`	`Arg.. tcpdump shows a response.. but * doesn't get it.`
`05:35.31`	`file[laptop]`	`courtneyguy: the info I need isn't here but I'm heading out anyway, catch me tomorrow and I'll see what I can do... or see if someone else can help`
`05:36.16`	`PTG123`	`listen the sip code sucks :)`
`05:36.24`	`PTG123`	`it doesn't tell you when it gets failures`
`05:36.27`	`PTG123`	`etc, etc :)`
`05:36.36`	`PTG123`	`and using sip debug`
`05:36.40`	`[hC]`	`anyone else here use voipjet? Are they down right now?`
`05:36.41`	`PTG123`	`to diagnose on a machine with tons of sip devices`
`05:36.46`	`PTG123`	`is impossible`
`05:36.56`	`file[laptop]`	`sip debug peer :)`
`05:37.00`	`CoolAcid`	`PTG123: yes, but you can debug peer :)`
`05:37.08`	`file[laptop]`	`sip debug ip`
`05:37.08`	`CoolAcid`	`doh.. too slow`
`05:37.50`	`courtneyguy`	`will do`
`05:37.52`	`PTG123`	`sip debug peer same thing`
`05:37.58`	`PTG123`	`:)`
`05:38.02`	`PTG123`	`i got alot of sip connections`
`05:38.11`	`courtneyguy`	`im going to setup another asterisk box just to see if something from scratch has the same problem.`
`05:38.12`	`PTG123`	`my problems are usually with users`
`05:38.18`	`PTG123`	`like polycoms not having flags set properly in asterisk`
`05:38.20`	`courtneyguy`	`thats about where im at with it hehe ;)`
`05:38.26`	`CoolAcid`	`ok.. time to reload the modules`
`05:38.45`	`courtneyguy`	`thanks for taking a look though :)`
`05:38.54`	`file[laptop]`	`aye`
`05:39.08`	`file[laptop]`	`yawn`
`05:39.12`	`CoolAcid`	`nope.. registraion times out..`
`05:41.19`	`CoolAcid`	`hmm...`
`05:41.24`	`CoolAcid`	`anyone got some ideas?`
`05:41.31`	`Mavvie`	`tcpdump`
`05:41.44`	`CoolAcid`	`sipphone is responding..`
`05:41.53`	`CoolAcid`	`but * doesn't see it..`
`05:42.00`	`CoolAcid`	`didn't change anything in firewall`
`05:42.05`	`CoolAcid`	`actually, nothing changed.`
`05:42.29`	`Mavvie`	`yes, tcpdump`
`05:42.33`	`CoolAcid`	`rolled back conf files, reisntalled, delted modules..`
`05:42.41`	`CoolAcid`	`yes.. tcpdump shows it's responding.`
`05:42.52`	`Mavvie`	`run tcpdump on the asterisk machine and see if it receives it and if it replies to it.`
`05:43.02`	`Mavvie`	`then run tcpdump on the phone and see if it receives something back.`
`05:43.11`	`CoolAcid`	`sipphone.com`
`05:43.43`	`CoolAcid`	`sorry.. should have said that.`
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`05:55.35`	`Silik0n`	`aynonw know a good sms gateway service?`
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`05:59.43`	`OzoneCo`	`anyone know about *@home distro?`
`06:00.15`	`shmaltz`	`Silik0n, what for?`
`06:00.55`	`OzoneCo`	`i cant reach the extension with an incoming call....i get "unavailable",,,,but i can conference within lan`
`06:02.31`	`OzoneCo`	`just looking for a way to troubleshoot`
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`06:19.13`	`vidia`	`A question for anyone still awake...`
`06:19.36`	`vidia`	`How do you map did numbers to a sip extension?`
`06:21.21`	`vidia`	`everyone asleep?..:(`
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`06:23.28`	`vidia`	`Looks like it is just me ....`
`06:23.31`	`vidia`	`again :)`
`06:23.31`	`Inv_arp`	`anyone have VP connects router IP to see what i would get for pinging?`
`06:25.24`	`vlan`	`Hi, Will I be able to use this command to dial out using my asterisk at 192.168.2.50 ? exten => _91NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/777:1234@${EXTEN:1}@192.168.2.50,30,r)`
`06:26.52`	`Inv_arp`	`vlan: looks ok too me`
`06:27.35`	`vlan`	`for some reason, it is not hitting * @ 192.168.2.50`
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`06:27.56`	`Umaro`	`Hey guys`
`06:28.10`	`vidia`	`If I have multiple DID numbers (50 of em) coming in via 12 PSTN over a T1 how can I map each DID to a SIP phone?`
`06:29.06`	`Qwell`	`exten => 8885551212,1,Dial(SIP/bob)`
`06:29.13`	`Qwell`	`exten => 8885551213,1,Dial(SIP/joe)`
`06:29.27`	`vlan`	`Inv_arp: 777 is a valid user @192.168.2.50`
`06:30.56`	`vidia`	`ummm, thats it - it seems to simple :)`
`06:31.08`	`vidia`	`thx Qwell..`
`06:31.42`	`vidia`	`how about caller id if the sip phone is calling out....`
`06:32.18`	`vidia`	`will person on the other side of the pstn pick up the caller id info fro 8885551212?`
`06:33.00`	`Umaro`	`hey guys, so it looks like this is how it is, but where is there documentation that says that in sip.conf, I have to have the same username in [username], as in username=username`
`06:34.22`	`t0pCop`	`I have E1s connection with R2 MFC signalling. Does anyone know if I can utilise TE410P with the current connection?`
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`06:35.52`	`Qwell`	`vidia: You should continue reading the docs. These questions are fairly trivial`
`06:36.03`	`Maxxed`	`eve'n gents :)`
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`06:36.57`	`Maxxed`	`yet another string of remedial questions..`
`06:37.05`	`vlan`	`What am I doing wrong in this line. I want to dial out using Asterisk @ 192.168.2.50. help`
`06:37.06`	`vlan`	`exten => _91NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/777:1234@${EXTEN:1}@192.168.2.50,30,r)`
`06:37.29`	`Qwell`	`vlan: from what I understand, it doesn't work that way with SIP`
`06:37.36`	`Maxxed`	`ok, so i got my asterisk up n running, looks lovely so far, but making outbound calls to the pstn isnt working quite yet`
`06:37.56`	`Maxxed`	`do i need to define the interface that is used?`
`06:38.29`	`Qwell`	`vlan: have a look at http://pastebin.ca/4810`
`06:39.20`	`vlan`	`Qwell: thanks`
`06:39.23`	`Maxxed`	`and i would like one of them to be the one for outbound calls`
`06:39.24`	`Qwell`	`Maxxed: define "interface"`
`06:39.52`	`Maxxed`	`well, the tdm+fxo module`
`06:40.06`	`Qwell`	`like, Zap/1?`
`06:40.11`	`Maxxed`	`yep!`
`06:40.19`	`Qwell`	`yeah, it might help`
`06:40.28`	`Maxxed`	`now, were at in my sip.conf do i add that ;)`
`06:40.37`	`Qwell`	`eh?`
`06:40.42`	`Qwell`	`~docs`
`06:40.43`	`jbot`	`Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org`
`06:40.44`	`Qwell`	`Start there`
`06:41.08`	`Maxxed`	`all of the examples iv seen are not configured in such a manor, its all sip client/voip service provider setups`
`06:43.03`	`Maxxed`	`im still not seeing exactly what i am supose to do.. well..er..dam..`
`06:43.05`	`Maxxed`	`heh`
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`06:45.43`	`MrEntropy`	`yo`
`06:46.05`	`MrEntropy`	`is anyone here familiar with the construction of asterisk, in terms how it's coded?`
`06:46.30`	`PTG123`	`MrEntropy, yes`
`06:46.35`	`PTG123`	`MrEntropy, why?`
`06:47.01`	`MrEntropy`	`PTG123: I want to know how asterisk qualifies a valid sip packet?`
`06:47.22`	`MrEntropy`	`PTG123: as in, what does it need? totag, fromtag...so on`
`06:47.52`	`mmlj4`	`does the cheap intel modem that works as an FXO also do the timing that's needed for IAX links? (I'm guessing no)`
`06:47.58`	`Shido`	`back`
`06:48.02`	`PTG123`	`MrEntropy, offhand i am not sure, but that should be easy enough for you to see`
`06:48.03`	`Shido`	`whats up?`
`06:48.16`	`MrEntropy`	`PTG123: what file?`
`06:48.23`	`Shido`	`u only need a timing device for meetme and iax2 trunking`
`06:48.26`	`PTG123`	`channels/chan_sip.c`
`06:48.35`	`MrEntropy`	`PTG123: k, thanks`
`06:48.50`	`mmlj4`	`right, iax2 trunking... do you think that modem will work?`
`06:48.56`	`Shido`	`what modem`
`06:49.09`	`Shido`	`if you can use it for a fxo device, yes`
`06:49.11`	`mmlj4`	`the intel one... lemme get the link`
`06:49.26`	`Qwell`	`the generic clone?`
`06:49.34`	`Shido`	`if you can get it to work as an fxo properly then yes`
`06:51.53`	`Maxxed`	`damn, i cant find an example for this outbound sip nonsince..`
`06:52.40`	`mmlj4`	`"Intel modems marked with 537 or MD3200 chipsets"... here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Hardware`
`06:54.14`	`MrEntropy`	`PTG123: holy crap that file's huge, any idea what function?`
`06:54.55`	`PTG123`	`MrEntropy, not off hand.. why did you need to know this?`
`06:54.57`	`mmlj4`	`well, grr... i seem to have one of the "problem" chipsets`
`06:55.18`	`newl`	`chan_sip.c is an interesting read. :)`
`06:56.38`	`MrEntropy`	`PTG123: i'm building a SER module that disconnects people(Prepaid billing)...i've managed to get the phone to disengage, but asterisk refuses to treat my forged BYE packet seriously`
`06:57.28`	`PTG123`	`hence the reason my task for the next 2 weeks is to rewrite chan_sip,c`
`06:57.29`	`PTG123`	`:)`
`06:57.44`	`MrEntropy`	`because it's huge?`
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`06:59.14`	`MrEntropy`	`my task for the next few weeks is to get this shit working, and asterisk doesn't like me forging packets it seems...somehow it's able to tell that it's not authentic...but how? i have ttag ftag and callid. of course the target, dest to and from are correct...i don't get it`
`06:59.22`	`MrEntropy`	`i need to know how asterisk knows`
`06:59.43`	`FuriousGeorge`	`damned if i know`
`07:00.10`	`MrEntropy`	`wtf is 'branch' anyway?`
`07:00.22`	`FuriousGeorge`	`~branch`
`07:00.24`	`jbot`	`from memory, branch is just a tag.`
`07:00.32`	`MrEntropy`	`what does it do?`
`07:00.47`	`FuriousGeorge`	`who do i look like? jbot?`
`07:00.49`	`FuriousGeorge`	`j/k`
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`07:01.07`	`FuriousGeorge`	`~ca`
`07:01.08`	`jbot`	`somebody said ca was a Certificate Authroity. It's required when browsers check your SSL certs with the CA's digital signature. See also SSL, or dog in Mallorqu�...`
`07:01.12`	`Qwell`	`a branch is where work that isn't ready for the trunk happens`
`07:01.25`	`Qwell`	`generally speaking`
`07:01.50`	`Maxxed`	`do i have to add some stuff in my extentions.conf to make outbound calls via my fxo/pstn ?`
`07:01.57`	`MrEntropy`	`Qwell: ok, so between two different sip registrars it doesn't matter?`
`07:02.48`	`Maxxed`	`ie. i want to call my nextdoor neighboor, 281-123-1234, would i have to add some jazz to the extensions.conf to make this happen`
`07:03.01`	`Maxxed`	`or is it somthin in my sip.conf..`
`07:03.03`	`MrEntropy`	`Qwell: because from what you said it sounds like an internal processing thing.`
`07:03.08`	`Qwell`	`huh?`
`07:03.20`	`Qwell`	`a branch generally happens in a version control system`
`07:03.37`	`MrEntropy`	`i mean sip tag 'branch'`
`07:04.02`	`MrEntropy`	`you got it all wrong i think =)`
`07:04.12`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i need to take a look at some well commented example config files, for very simple setups`
`07:04.42`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but where are they`
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`07:05.26`	`Dovid`	`.`
`07:08.14`	`MrEntropy`	`PTG123: any debug output i can enable that'll say "packet failed to qualify > here" or something like that...?`
`07:08.36`	`PTG123`	`sip debug`
`07:08.37`	`PTG123`	`have you done that?`
`07:08.41`	`PTG123`	`will show alot more detail`
`07:09.03`	`PTG123`	`but i am betting it doesn't even support BYE`
`07:09.35`	`MrEntropy`	`yeah, sip debug's on...and what do you mean doesn't support bye?`
`07:09.45`	`MrEntropy`	`it has to...when a phone disengages`
`07:09.53`	`PTG123`	`the command you say its ignoring`
`07:09.53`	`PTG123`	`oh hmm`
`07:10.10`	`MrEntropy`	`i'm just sending it a sip packet`
`07:10.21`	`vlan`	`Qwell: I tried your method. I can dial the SIP extensions on @192.168.2.50 but I can not use @192.168.2.50 as gateway to make toll calls`
`07:11.18`	`MrEntropy`	`it works like this PHONE---PROXY---ASTERISK... because of this, i can forge sip packets on the proxy and should be able to tell asterisk to disconnect. it works on the phone.`
`07:12.34`	`t0pCop`	`Questions about Hardware used with Asterisk:`
`07:13.08`	`t0pCop`	`Does Asterisk work with E1 connection + R2 MFC signalling?`
`07:15.27`	`PTG123`	`well you must be doing something wrong`
`07:15.38`	`PTG123`	`but i see no reason to need ser, except terrible sip performance in asterisk`
`07:15.40`	`PTG123`	`is thast why you uyse sir?`
`07:16.18`	`MrEntropy`	`pretty much, SER is super fast`
`07:16.45`	`MrEntropy`	`and this is so close to working too`
`07:16.46`	`PTG123`	`yah, which after looking at its architecture its even slower then i thought`
`07:16.49`	`PTG123`	`i think it does things the wrong way too`
`07:16.50`	`PTG123`	`:)`
`07:17.00`	`PTG123`	`vlan, asterisk doesn;t do the proxy thing`
`07:17.12`	`tzafrir`	`hi folks`
`07:17.20`	`Maxxed`	`yo`
`07:18.17`	`vlan`	`PTG123: I have 2 * machines. One machine is configured to dial national and international calls. I want my 2nd * to use first * to make international calls. Is it possible?`
`07:20.01`	`PTG123`	`um`
`07:20.04`	`PTG123`	`thats possible`
`07:20.08`	`PTG123`	`but thats not proxying`
`07:20.31`	`PTG123`	`but whyt do that?`
`07:20.38`	`vlan`	`Okay. maybe I used wrong words :)`
`07:21.11`	`PTG123`	`but why do that?`
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`07:21.32`	`vlan`	`PTG123: so I wont have to get all resources for my 2nd *`
`07:22.23`	`vlan`	`like if my 1st * has PSTN connected. I dont want to have PSTN on 2nd , instead use 1st to dial out`
`07:22.31`	`PTG123`	`well its gonna use resources on both`
`07:22.35`	`PTG123`	`you actually do want a proxy`
`07:22.38`	`PTG123`	`it sounds like :)`
`07:22.42`	`vlan`	`:)`
`07:22.46`	`PTG123`	`pl`
`07:22.52`	`PTG123`	`actually i see what your saying`
`07:22.57`	`PTG123`	`so you want like a t1 on one box for local etc`
`07:23.06`	`PTG123`	`but international your going out through a iax or sip provider?`
`07:23.16`	`vlan`	`yes`
`07:23.26`	`vlan`	`and all these I want to configure on 1 * box`
`07:23.29`	`PTG123`	`ok so is local only through the one?`
`07:24.20`	`vlan`	`I will have 3 or 4 * boxes. But only one of them will have IAX (NuFone) / T1 connected. All other will use this main * to dial out`
`07:25.25`	`PTG123`	`dial out through what?`
`07:26.11`	`vlan`	`main * box... Using T1 and NuFone and other VoIP (for international)`
`07:26.32`	`PTG123`	`ok i am still confused`
`07:26.35`	`vlan`	`this will be my main * server`
`07:26.36`	`PTG123`	`are you going to have`
`07:26.40`	`PTG123`	`BOX #1 local?`
`07:26.42`	`FuriousGeorge`	`beginner ?: at what point in my sip.conf does one define the X in dial(sip/X($exten). is that the name of the client in [] above the sip client's settings section`
`07:26.49`	`PTG123`	`BOX #2 long distance/international`
`07:26.51`	`Shaun`	`Hello, i currently use officevox.com for a phone system, basically it does all the normal pbx stuff (press 1 for blah, 2 or bleh, etc) and then puts the customer on hold and dails numbers in it's call list looking for a rep to awnser. I want to do this in-house, is there any good documentation some where on how to do somthing like this.`
`07:27.10`	`PTG123`	`Shaun, look for queues on the wiki`
`07:27.13`	`vlan`	`PTG123: No.`
`07:27.30`	`Shaun`	`PTG123: url?`
`07:28.06`	`vlan`	`PTG123: My Main * Machine will be A1. it this machine will have a T1 interface and other configuration for NuFone, etc.`
`07:28.22`	`Shaun`	`also, another thing, rather than running hardlines into a box, can i purchase lines over the internet (VOIP)?`
`07:28.36`	`PTG123`	`www.voip-info.org but you may want to have someone that knows what they are doing set it up`
`07:28.45`	`PTG123`	`shaun: yah its what i would recommend, where are you located?`
`07:28.45`	`vlan`	`PTG123: My other client * machines will be in local offices Like: C1, C2, C3`
`07:29.06`	`vlan`	`PTG123: C1, C2 and C3 will use A1 to make outside calls`
`07:29.23`	`PTG123`	`vlan i think i am sort of getting its now`
`07:29.37`	`PTG123`	`so basically you want all the pbx features to run on the clients boxes`
`07:29.45`	`PTG123`	`but everything goes through your box for outgoing?`
`07:29.47`	`vlan`	`Yes`
`07:29.51`	`Shaun`	`PTG123: Irvine, California`
`07:29.59`	`vlan`	`PTG123: yes`
`07:30.06`	`FuriousGeorge`	`let me ask this way. asterisk starts up and doesnt complain about my sip provider b/c i put this line in sip.conf: register => 2345:password@sip_proxy/1234`
`07:30.28`	`FuriousGeorge`	`where does that tell me what to put as the device name sip/X`
`07:30.41`	`PTG123`	`Shaun, yah i would use everything through an internet provider.. i could recommend some people if you like`
`07:30.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`where do i name that channel?`
`07:31.02`	`Shaun`	`PTG123: sure.`
`07:31.06`	`PTG123`	`ok FuriousGeorge take a number`
`07:31.12`	`PTG123`	`Shaun, how many lines`
`07:31.17`	`PTG123`	`vlan, ok yes that simple to set up`
`07:31.27`	`PTG123`	`vlan, just attach to your box via singl iax account`
`07:31.29`	`Shaun`	`PTG123: i would assume it's possible to use mulitple providers for redundancy?`
`07:31.30`	`PTG123`	`vlan, per box`
`07:31.39`	`Qwell`	`Shaun: sure`
`07:31.43`	`PTG123`	`Shaun, for outgoing, not incoming so pick wisely`
`07:31.48`	`PTG123`	`Shaun, if its for a business`
`07:31.55`	`vlan`	`PTG123: okay - its good that it is possible :) . Can I use SIP instead of IAX ?`
`07:32.03`	`Shaun`	`PTG123: 10 i guess, basically for every person calling in, it will be calling out to a rep.`
`07:32.15`	`Shaun`	`so 5 incomming, 5 outgoing.`
`07:32.16`	`PTG123`	`vlan, um the short answer is no :)`
`07:32.28`	`PTG123`	`vlan, the long answer is if you add a patch it will work, but it won't PROXY which is truely what you want`
`07:32.36`	`PTG123`	`vlan, the even longe ranswer is thats why i am rewriting chan_sip`
`07:32.51`	`PTG123`	`Shaun, well voip doesn't exactly work like that`
`07:32.53`	`PTG123`	`Shaun, PM me`
`07:32.54`	`vlan`	`PTG123: i've been trying to make it work with SIP :)`
`07:32.58`	`Shaun`	`k`
`07:33.02`	`PTG123`	`vlan, it doesn't`
`07:33.08`	`PTG123`	`vlan, without the patch`
`07:33.13`	`PTG123`	`http://loans.way2fast.com/patch.txt`
`07:33.34`	`Qwell`	`PTG123: that patch works great on stable btw`
`07:34.01`	`PTG123`	`yah seems to work on just about everything :)`
`07:34.09`	`vlan`	`PTG123: is this a bug-fix or new feature ?`
`07:34.12`	`PTG123`	`i am single handly making that patch famous`
`07:34.27`	`PTG123`	`vlan, um well sip between two asterisk boxes won't work without it`
`07:34.34`	`PTG123`	`vlan, so call it what you like`
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`07:35.28`	`vlan`	`PTG123: Will call it a new feature :) . I think I'm not using stable - I use the most recent release.`
`07:36.16`	`PTG123`	`vlan, works on that too`
`07:37.14`	`vlan`	`PTG123: thanks for saving my time - appreciate all your help !`
`07:37.44`	`PTG123`	`heh np`
`07:39.11`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ptg123: i think i see the answer to my question. it is the name that is in the [ ] of sip.conf clients, right?`
`07:41.08`	`PTG123`	`well yes i guess`
`07:41.11`	`PTG123`	`i am not sure what you are trying to do`
`07:41.18`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but thats for the clients. what about for outgoing? and whats my number, btrw?`
`07:41.47`	`FuriousGeorge`	`so far ive used * to connect to my provider. now i want to connect a client to it and make an outbound call`
`07:42.05`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but im trying to figure out what the device name for that outbound channel would be. where is that set`
`07:42.52`	`FuriousGeorge`	`is that the name of the outbound proxy in [ ]`
`07:43.40`	`PTG123`	`oh`
`07:43.46`	`PTG123`	`you set that on context=blah`
`07:43.52`	`PTG123`	`it corresponds to extensions.conf`
`07:43.56`	`PTG123`	`the default is default i think`
`07:44.55`	`bkw_`	`coppice, you alive`
`07:45.59`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ok, i remember uncommenting that at the top of sip.conf. so to dial out on that it would be something like dial(sip/defualt($EXTEN))`
`07:46.24`	`FuriousGeorge`	`exten=> _,1,register => 2345:password@sip_proxy/1234`
`07:46.58`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i pasted the wrong thing there`
`07:47.10`	`FuriousGeorge`	`not used to the linux copy paste. meant to say:`
`07:47.33`	`FuriousGeorge`	`exten=> _,1,dial(sip/defualt($EXTEN))`
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`07:54.05`	`cjk`	`hi, will the voicetraffic pass throguh my * if i have a call from an iax peer to another iax peer?`
`07:56.43`	`*** join/#asterisk Zeeek (~Zeeek@Zeeek.sustaining.supporter.pdpc)`
`07:58.26`	`cjk`	`hi, will the voicetraffic pass through my * if i have a call from an iax peer to another iax peer?`
`07:59.17`	`Qwell`	`cjk: If you ask again, somebody might answer`
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`08:00.41`	`cjk`	`Qwell, well one never knows`
`08:01.56`	`FuriousGeorge`	`cjk: im not expert, but from what ive read IAX stands for inter asterisk exchange`
`08:02.07`	`Zeeek`	`if one peer calls another peer, by definition of peer nothing is ever between them`
`08:02.22`	`FuriousGeorge`	`so if you have a half decent voip dialtone provider you can set up two asterisk servers and link them up via that service`
`08:02.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`or not use any service at all`
`08:03.03`	`FuriousGeorge`	`w/ IAX u shd be able to just link them over the internet`
`08:03.48`	`Qwell`	`ok, off to bed`
`08:05.16`	`FuriousGeorge`	`if i want to set up my one extension to be allowed to call any number would that be exten=>xxxxxxxxxxx,1,dial(sip/sipout($exten))`
`08:05.37`	`FuriousGeorge`	`is that the correct syntax?`
`08:05.56`	`t0pCop`	`Anyone using TE410P?`
`08:07.22`	`Zeeek`	`FuriousGeorge`
`08:07.24`	`Zeeek`	`The dialplan is the heart of an Asterisk system, as it defines how Asterisk should handle calls. "http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/content/docbook/current_v1/docs-html_one/vm1.html#AEN650`
`08:07.34`	`Zeeek`	`check this out ^^^^^^^^^^^`
`08:08.38`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i read that, and its a great walkthrough for incomming calls, but im trying to make an outgoing`
`08:08.51`	`Zeeek`	`you're so far off that you couldn't have read it`
`08:09.33`	`FuriousGeorge`	`oh but i did`
`08:10.51`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but if you see it makes no mention of outbound calling there. i defined at the top of sip.conf context=sipout`
`08:11.31`	`Inv_arp`	`anyone have VP connects router IP to see what i would get for pinging?`
`08:11.50`	`FuriousGeorge`	`then in extension.con i have an [sipout] and below that i have the exten=> line which tells * what to do when a call is made that satisfies that context`
`08:12.05`	`FuriousGeorge`	`obviously if it was working i wouldnt be asking, but i dont think im THAT far off`
`08:12.16`	`Zeeek`	`Inv_arp 66.234.228.160`
`08:12.29`	`Zeeek`	`they have 2 servers`
`08:13.17`	`Zeeek`	`FuriousGeorge try the wiki - your dial command is off and your XXXXX has nothing to do with what you asked for`
`08:14.35`	`FuriousGeorge`	`zeeek. ive spent hours a day on the wiki, i come from windows world, this stuff just doesnt come naturally to me`
`08:14.51`	`Zeeek`	`is Eng your native tongue?`
`08:15.37`	`FuriousGeorge`	`since you asked, no but i know you cant tell by my grammer syntax`
`08:15.44`	`FuriousGeorge`	`*grammer/syntax`
`08:16.11`	`Zeeek`	`It's obvious from what you typed as a line in extensions that you haven't seen the difference between sip.conf the dialplan and extensions and applications. You need to read one or more of these:`
`08:16.13`	`Zeeek`	`Starter tutorial:`
`08:16.13`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/07/03/asterisk.html`
`08:16.13`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2004/01/22/asterisk2.html`
`08:16.13`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm`
`08:16.13`	`Zeeek`	`THE reference of the moment:`
`08:16.15`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.asteriskdocs.org`
`08:16.37`	`Zeeek`	`and if you say you've read two or more and the wiki, you are not understanding what yoyu read - which is why I asked about language`
`08:16.53`	`Zeeek`	`grammar by the way`
`08:17.15`	`FuriousGeorge`	`notice i didnt say spelling`
`08:17.18`	`Zeeek`	`heh`
`08:17.35`	`Zeeek`	`I'm not trying to be Mr clever here, I'm trying to help you do what you want to do`
`08:17.56`	`Zeeek`	`and IMO to accomplish that, you need an uinderstanding of the basics`
`08:18.26`	`Zeeek`	`the basics are dialplan: extensions, priority application as explained in the docs I cited`
`08:18.49`	`FuriousGeorge`	`those onlamp.coms are new to me and look helpful`
`08:18.49`	`Zeeek`	`I just looked again and the text explains how that all works`
`08:19.06`	`Zeeek`	`they are the first level of tutorial about asterisk and setting it up`
`08:19.32`	`Zeeek`	`my (free) advice is to download the asteriskdocs.org PDF and read it through completely about three times`
`08:20.19`	`FuriousGeorge`	`<Zeeek> I just looked again and the text explains how that all works: which one are you refering to there: onlamp or asteriskdocs`
`08:20.21`	`Zeeek`	`the learning curve that seems high will practically disappear once you understand the dialplan`
`08:20.29`	`Zeeek`	`The dialplan is the heart of an Asterisk system, as it defines how Asterisk should handle calls. "http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/content/docbook/current_v1/docs-html_one/vm1.html#AEN650`
`08:20.48`	`Zeeek`	`the above is not the same as the http://asteriskdocs.org PDF volume`
`08:20.58`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i hope ur right, cuz now it seems like more of a learning slight incline`
`08:21.32`	`Zeeek`	`look at this line for example:`
`08:21.34`	`Zeeek`	`Making use of the ${EXTEN} channel variable`
`08:21.54`	`Zeeek`	`what does that tell you compared to your "$exten"`
`08:22.06`	`FuriousGeorge`	`curly brackets are required`
`08:22.22`	`Zeeek`	`another line`
`08:22.25`	`Zeeek`	`. - wildcard match which matches one or more characters`
`08:22.50`	`Zeeek`	`if you read and understand that simple text, you'll find the answer to your questions`
`08:23.09`	`Zeeek`	`Extensions are not limited simply to numbers. We are able to match patterns of numbers to control our call flow. To do this we start an extension "number" with an underscore symbol (_). Asterisk recognizes certain characters to interpret special meaning when doing a pattern match.`
`08:23.26`	`Zeeek`	`the rest of that goes into detail`
`08:23.35`	`Zeeek`	`"the truth is out there"`
`08:23.54`	`FuriousGeorge`	`yeah, before i tried XXXXXXXXXXXXX i tried _, but i think i shouldnt be even using ${exten} there`
`08:24.09`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i will take your advice and re read all this stuff`
`08:24.12`	`Zeeek`	`exten and EXTEN are two different things`
`08:24.22`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Extension+Matching`
`08:24.42`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+extensions.conf+sorting`
`08:24.56`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+extensions.conf`
`08:25.09`	`Zeeek`	`you need to read all three of the above`
`08:25.27`	`Zeeek`	`then you'll be smiling`
`08:25.44`	`Zeeek`	`"he Dialplan is configured in the extensions.conf file. It is Asterisk's most important configuration file. It controls how all incoming and outgoing calls are routed and handled. This is where you control the behaviour for all connections through your PBX. "`
`08:25.51`	`LarsAC`	`in the voicemail .txt files, what format does "origtime" have ?`
`08:26.25`	`Zeeek`	`LarsAC you have the time string handy? What does it look like?`
`08:26.38`	`Zeeek`	`I'll bet it's unix systime number?`
`08:27.06`	`LarsAC`	`origdate is readable format`
`08:27.12`	`LarsAC`	`origtime=1110913521`
`08:27.20`	`FuriousGeorge`	`many of these will be a rereads, but ur right i gotta get to knowem a little better. i think part of the problem is many of the example files i look at are trying to do different things in different ways, and this early on it confuses me`
`08:27.32`	`LarsAC`	`Zeeek: let me try this`
`08:27.38`	`Zeeek`	`number of seconds since 1960 or something like that? (unix system format)`
`08:28.04`	`Zeeek`	`FuriousGeorge learn the basics and experiment - believe me, it will come`
`08:28.33`	`FuriousGeorge`	`readmes`
`08:28.51`	`FuriousGeorge`	`whops, stole my focus`
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`08:30.50`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Dialplan+Introduction`
`08:31.17`	`MuppetMaster`	`Hello. Anyone here played with http://asterisk-java.sourceforge.net/ much?`
`08:31.47`	`Dovid`	`hello all`
`08:31.58`	`Dovid`	`i am writing a script to autoinstall asterisk`
`08:32.04`	`Dovid`	`what dependenscies does it have ?`
`08:32.14`	`FuriousGeorge`	`u know, i dont think i ever looked at the example extension.conf. maybe ill do that for a min bvefore i hit the sack. gnight all`
`08:32.35`	`Dovid`	`here is a list of what is currently going on the machine`
`08:32.50`	`Dovid`	`http://h6315.com/pub`
`08:35.35`	`Dovid`	`quess no one is here`
`08:35.37`	`Dovid`	`night`
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`08:39.50`	`al___2`	`help , i use asterisk@home0.6.iso , already burn it and now when booting from cd, PC says invalid system disk, how to boot it?`
`08:40.20`	`MuppetMaster`	`al___2: How did you create the disk?`
`08:40.27`	`MuppetMaster`	`Sounds like maybe you just copied the iso onto the CD?`
`08:40.36`	`MuppetMaster`	`If that is the case, won't work. You need to burn an image with something like Nero.`
`08:40.59`	`al___2`	`yes, i copied it from hardrive, how to burn it?`
`08:41.27`	`MuppetMaster`	`you need to find a tool that allows you to properly burn an ISO image to a CDROM, if you just copy it on to the CDROM it will not work.`
`08:41.48`	`MuppetMaster`	`http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/e-smith/docs/howto/CD_burning_howto.php3`
`08:41.55`	`al___2`	`thanks muppetmaster, i will try now.`
`08:42.06`	`MuppetMaster`	`Good luck!`
`08:42.24`	`LarsAC`	`Zeeek: yeah, unix time`
`08:43.34`	`Zeeek`	`ok good guess :)`
`08:43.40`	`MuppetMaster`	`Any ideas on why this would not execute on startup?: java -classpath /usr/asterisk_java/jars/commons-logging.jar:/usr/asterisk_java/jars/asterisk-java.jar:/usr/asterisk_java/jars/mysql-connector-java-3.1.7-bin.jar:/usr/asterisk_java net.sf.asterisk.fastagi.DefaultAGIServer &`
`08:43.56`	`MuppetMaster`	`I have it as part of a script in /etc/init.d and then symlinked into rc3.d`
`08:44.05`	`MuppetMaster`	`When I execute the script after boot, all is fine, but it does not do it at bootup?`
`08:44.21`	`MuppetMaster`	`Those smileys are ':'`
`08:44.43`	`MuppetMaster`	`the file is 755`
`08:48.41`	`MuppetMaster`	`I think nohup may do the trick, testing now.`
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`09:05.55`	`*** join/#asterisk Newbie___ (me@218.111.222.230)`
`09:06.40`	`Newbie___`	`hi, does any one has any idea how to get a dial tone from cell phone ?`
`09:06.53`	`Zeeek`	`you mean?`
`09:07.16`	`Newbie___`	`hmmmm`
`09:07.38`	`Newbie___`	`once able to get dial tone from cell, i could plug into FXO`
`09:07.40`	`Newbie___`	`and make calls`
`09:07.44`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20cmd%20DISA`
`09:07.50`	`Zeeek`	`that should do the trick`
`09:07.55`	`Zeeek`	`or show application disa`
`09:08.00`	`Newbie___`	`hmmm`
`09:08.15`	`Zeeek`	`stop humming and get to work!`
`09:08.20`	`Newbie___`	`lol`
`09:08.37`	`Newbie___`	`i was looking at GSM channel banks and i need to sell my house to own one`
`09:08.39`	`Zeeek`	`if your CID is reliable you can do it without a password`
`09:09.09`	`Newbie___`	`Zeeek: how do i do the physcial connection ?`
`09:09.16`	`Zeeek`	`oh you want to use your cell as an asterisk client (sort of)?`
`09:09.32`	`*** join/#asterisk pulu (~chatzilla@64.200.224.158)`
`09:09.40`	`Newbie___`	`yes sir`
`09:09.59`	`Zeeek`	`there is something call a cellsocket sold by Pulver`
`09:10.08`	`Zeeek`	`I think it does that`
`09:10.12`	`Zeeek`	`or something like that`
`09:10.36`	`Zeeek`	`no, that dopes the opposite I guess`
`09:10.42`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.cellsocket.com/`
`09:10.56`	`Newbie___`	`ok, checking the web site`
`09:11.07`	`Newbie___`	`ah... i seen thiis`
`09:11.24`	`Zeeek`	`this lets you access the GSM netowrk from any phone`
`09:11.30`	`Zeeek`	`not what you want I guess`
`09:11.38`	`Newbie___`	`Zeeek: yes sir`
`09:11.41`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.charlesindustries.com/images/CellSocket.jpg`
`09:11.57`	`Zeeek`	`oh it is what you want?`
`09:12.06`	`Zeeek`	`$120 or so`
`09:12.12`	`Newbie___`	`i believe that is for USA cell, i would need something like 1800/900 GSM`
`09:12.22`	`Zeeek`	`ah, yes`
`09:12.36`	`Zeeek`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:13.00`	`pulu`	`Newbie___: I looked into something similar, I found 12 and 24 port triband GSM SIP channel banks in China... couldn't get the companies to respond to me though, I thinkthey wanted people to buy in lots of 100`
`09:13.51`	`Newbie___`	`pulu: do u have the tel, so i can call ?`
`09:14.04`	`pulu`	`this was last year, let me look really quick`
`09:14.08`	`Newbie___`	`Zeeek: those motorola phones are not available here`
`09:14.20`	`Zeeek`	`where is here?`
`09:14.24`	`Newbie___`	`and it is Nokia world here`
`09:14.29`	`Newbie___`	`here is Malaysia`
`09:14.32`	`Zeeek`	`they have them for nokia`
`09:14.54`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.simplycheap.com/char99-004071-a.html`
`09:14.58`	`Newbie___`	`i printed out the Motorola list to cell phone shop, they never heard of it`
`09:15.50`	`Newbie___`	`i believe malaysia and UK share the same phone models`
`09:15.52`	`Zeeek`	`Global Wireless CellSocket for Nokia 5100 and 6100 Series Phones (CSN5161)`
`09:16.01`	`*** join/#asterisk smurfix (~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian)`
`09:16.17`	`pulu`	`http://www.valiantcom.com/vclgsm/e1/vcl_gsm_e1.htm`
`09:16.17`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006IZUH/dealtime-dae-mp-20/103-4895053-5909468?dev-t=D2GPY4FLPNIDH9%26camp=2025%26link_code=xm2`
`09:16.36`	`pulu`	`that's not the company i had found before but those guys have up to 90 sims on an e1`
`09:17.46`	`Newbie___`	`pulu: i was there 10 minutes ago`
`09:17.51`	`Newbie___`	`Zeeek: tks`
`09:18.05`	`pulu`	`is it too big? Or do you want a SIP one?`
`09:18.30`	`Zeeek`	`a lot of people have been asking about these suddenly! Why?`
`09:18.34`	`pulu`	`i can't find the other one, they had 4 and 8 port ones though`
`09:18.44`	`Zeeek`	`this is to connect a business or home to the gsm network?`
`09:18.47`	`Newbie___`	`i found 1 in taiwan, desktop GSM phone accept only 1 GSM SIM`
`09:19.12`	`Newbie___`	`a business`
`09:19.18`	`pulu`	`Zeeek: at the time for me i had a deal with the cell phone company that got me free local calls over the gsm, where the normal rate is $3.60/hr... so it was worth looking at`
`09:19.28`	`Zeeek`	`ah! now I see`
`09:19.39`	`Zeeek`	`the ads say "make use of free weekend minutes..." etc`
`09:20.06`	`Newbie___`	`same cell provider calls are lot less cheaper than to others`
`09:20.10`	`Zeeek`	`plus in some places there aren't many landlines (mountainous regions etc)`
`09:20.29`	`pulu`	`also alot of companies do free calls to other subscribers so it's a nice thing if you have a company with alot of employees that all use the same carrier, just pop one on your asterisk box and you sudden]ly get free intercompany comunications`
`09:20.45`	`Newbie___`	`pulu: thats the whole idea`
`09:20.49`	`Zeeek`	`yes here same provider cell are way cheaper, but ironically, voipjet can call my French gsm cheaper than my wife can on her same-network gsm phone!`
`09:21.05`	`Newbie___`	`telecommunication business really tough`
`09:21.58`	`Newbie___`	`i was thinking maybe possible to use a COM cable to * and make calls, at least that is what i did when sending SMS with linux`
`09:22.07`	`Newbie___`	`childish of me`
`09:22.26`	`Zeeek`	`oth, here received calls are always FREE, so another advantage would be to set the phone in a cellsocket and receive all calls on it`
`09:22.37`	`pulu`	`Newbie___: if you just want to do one phone alot of people ahve had luck with that bluetooth stuff`
`09:22.47`	`Zeeek`	`Newbie___ actually there is a thread on the mailing list about that - it can be done`
`09:22.55`	`Newbie___`	`i plan about 10 cells`
`09:22.55`	`Zeeek`	`with a cable I mean`
`09:23.15`	`Newbie___`	`Zeeek: u gotta be kidding me, i though just my imagination`
`09:23.45`	`Zeeek`	`I'm still wary of bluetooth - has it matured lately ?`
`09:23.56`	`Zeeek`	`I heard nothing but horro stories before`
`09:24.28`	`Newbie___`	`checking out the mailing list`
`09:25.31`	`Zeeek`	`anyway, that's an interesting piece in the puzzle I was ignoring: the fact that since we can receive cell calls free, it might be of interest to own that cellsocket`
`09:26.06`	`Newbie___`	`Zeeek: :)`
`09:26.14`	`Zeeek`	`I'll have to see what kind of Nokia phones it can handle`
`09:26.55`	`Newbie___`	`hmmm the mailing list is now May 2016`
`09:27.01`	`Zeeek`	`In theory, I can use the free calls thing for a year before I need to actually buy a recharge`
`09:27.03`	`Newbie___`	`how fast time fly`
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`09:28.24`	`Zeeek`	`try googling cellsocket site:lists.digium.com - there are pages of stuff about this`
`09:28.57`	`Newbie___`	`cell socket ? i am looking for something like a cell com cable`
`09:28.59`	`Flash_`	`I want to be able to access my * from a remote locateion, it is behind a firewall. how could I access it for phone use ?`
`09:29.29`	`Zeeek`	`Flash_ are the ports forwarded to it?`
`09:29.38`	`pulu`	`Zeeek: you know it's the same here with free received calls, but people pick up pretty quick on who's milking their side of it`
`09:29.42`	`Flash_`	`Zeeek: which ports do i need to forward ?`
`09:29.52`	`Zeeek`	`pulu heh`
`09:30.01`	`Zeeek`	`"there's no free lunch"`
`09:30.05`	`Flash_`	`Zeeek: udp 5060 ?`
`09:30.30`	`Zeeek`	`Flash_ look at this http://willypick.mindsay.com/?entry=10`
`09:30.35`	`Flash_`	`tar`
`09:30.37`	`pulu`	`this one lady that works for my dad always tries to call me and be all "oh there's only one minute lefto n my phone!" to which i always respond "hey, me too!" and it's amazing how her calls arealways longer than a minute after that`
`09:30.39`	`Zeeek`	`and look at NAT on the wiki`
`09:30.47`	`Newbie___`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Connecting+to+the+Cellular+Network`
`09:31.24`	`Zeeek`	`I actually hate that tendancy here in Eu where everyone has only a cell listed. They are expensive to call and I avoid it as much as I can`
`09:31.53`	`Zeeek`	`So this is another case where a cellsocket would be a good addition`
`09:32.16`	`Zeeek`	`but then voip providers are coming up with gsm deals so it works out the same`
`09:34.34`	`Newbie___`	`http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,8764,56023,00.html`
`09:36.53`	`Newbie___`	`Zeeek: your are right, it worked on a single COM Port`
`09:37.06`	`Newbie___`	`RS 232 cable`
`09:37.27`	`Newbie___`	`http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-January/033723.html`
`09:39.33`	`Jovu`	`anyone care to debug a crash?`
`09:39.34`	`Jovu`	`#2 0x000002000082bd9c in handle_request (p=0x120172250, req=0x200005ca3e0, sin=0x200005cb810, recount=0x200005cb828, nounlock=0x200005cb824)`
`09:39.35`	`Jovu`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:40.46`	`Flash_`	`nasty...`
`09:41.39`	`Newbie___`	`pulu: https://www.phonelabs.com/prd05.asp`
`09:43.35`	`Flash_`	`i'm sure that chan_bluetooth can be setup to do somthing like that.. in bluetooth mode at least`
`09:43.50`	`Flash_`	`</blatent_plug>`
`09:44.13`	`pulu`	`i was gonna say you could just get a fixed wireless terminal but that things a whole lot cheaper`
`09:45.02`	`Newbie___`	`pulu: a single cell socket is available on ebay`
`09:45.13`	`Newbie___`	`http://search.ebay.com/cellsocket_W0QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ3QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZsoQQsotrZ2`
`09:46.34`	`Newbie___`	`myabe i would get 10 stand alone cell socket and plug into 10 FXO and hope it would do the trick`
`09:46.49`	`Zeeek`	`$1000 + phones`
`09:47.04`	`Newbie___`	`a used nokia 5100 is about US 20 here`
`09:51.34`	`Newbie___`	`most socket are compatable with 5120, and we do not have 5120 here, only 5100`
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`10:03.30`	`Zeeek`	`did we just change to daylight savings time in Europe? anyone know?`
`10:03.40`	`Zeeek`	`my PC thinks so anyway`
`10:04.21`	`Newbie___`	`Zeeek: cant help u there`
`10:04.29`	`Zeeek`	`yes, we did I just checked`
`10:04.35`	`Zeeek`	`funny how that slipped by me`
`10:05.04`	`Newbie___`	`age maybe ?`
`10:05.40`	`Zeeek`	`mine? yes, very advanced`
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`10:17.33`	`mafkees`	`hi all`
`10:18.29`	`mafkees`	`I have some trouble getting rxfax to work`
`10:18.45`	`mafkees`	`can someone help me ? I tried the mailing list but get no answer there`
`10:19.09`	`mafkees`	`when a fax comes in I get a lot of lines on the CLI stating:`
`10:19.17`	`mafkees`	`Training error 628.724327`
`10:19.17`	`mafkees`	`Training failed (convergence failed)`
`10:19.17`	`mafkees`	`Coarse carrier frequency 1799.49 (4)`
`10:19.17`	`mafkees`	`Coarse carrier frequency 1800.89 (4)`
`10:19.17`	`mafkees`	`Training error 673.044876`
`10:19.19`	`mafkees`	`Training failed (convergence failed)`
`10:25.43`	`Zeeek`	`have you tried receiving from different fax machines?`
`10:26.04`	`Zeeek`	`rxfax doesn't work with all faxes`
`10:27.21`	`mafkees`	`I tried with one fax, cause I only have one.`
`10:27.56`	`mafkees`	`Thnx for the tip, will see if I can get some friends to send me faxes`
`10:27.59`	`mafkees`	`:)`
`10:28.18`	`Zeeek`	`I have not had great luck with spandsp - it only works sometimes`
`10:28.50`	`Zeeek`	`it works perfectly with online faxes sent through a service and with some fax machines, not others`
`10:28.54`	`mafkees`	`hhmm, maybe better to install an ATA and connect analog fax machine on it ?`
`10:29.05`	`Zeeek`	`that's what we intend to do`
`10:29.11`	`Zeeek`	`we're gonna get a fax/copier`
`10:29.24`	`Zeeek`	`better use of space and nerves`
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`10:31.57`	`mafkees`	`too bad, cause I wanted to integrate the incoming faxes into our webbased crm application`
`10:32.43`	`mafkees`	`customer sends fax, agi script looksup fax nr in our database and injects the pdf into our filestore database and sends notification to fax-manager`
`10:32.52`	`mafkees`	`that would have been too cool`
`10:33.31`	`nesys`	`hi folks, nice Easter`
`10:33.33`	`nesys`	`:)`
`10:33.51`	`mafkees`	`same 2 u`
`10:35.22`	`mafkees`	`hhmm, maybe hylafax can do something for me.`
`10:35.30`	`mafkees`	`Thnx Zeeek for your tips`
`10:35.42`	`mafkees`	`bye all`
`10:35.48`	`mafkees`	`have a good Easter`
`10:36.02`	`nesys`	`mafkees if you need something about hylafax, or ccme support fax, please ask :)`
`10:36.19`	`nesys`	`late :)`
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`10:59.55`	`Zeeek`	`I was looking at waitexten`
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`11:18.55`	`tweakism`	`Wow, busy channel. I'd like to have an asterisk setup at home, using broadvoice voip, and then have a system in my office that can answer my desk phone, an avaya key system thing, and connect those calls to my asterisk system via voip broadvoice.`
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`11:20.18`	`tweakism`	`Is that possible w/ any hardware you know of? What kind of interface is that? Can I read about relevant protocols?`
`11:22.54`	`Zeeek`	`Starter tutorial:`
`11:22.54`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/07/03/asterisk.html`
`11:22.54`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2004/01/22/asterisk2.html`
`11:22.54`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm`
`11:22.54`	`Zeeek`	`THE reference of the moment:`
`11:22.55`	`Zeeek`	`http://www.asteriskdocs.org`
`11:23.06`	`Zeeek`	`some background info`
`11:23.12`	`tweakism`	`I've been reading some background.`
`11:23.20`	`tweakism`	`Just trying to figure out how to connect up w/ work's PBX.`
`11:23.42`	`Zeeek`	`the easiest way is to get them to install asterisk :)`
`11:23.43`	`tweakism`	`basically, want to find a way to make office calls I don't answer forward to my home asterisk system for voicemail leaving.`
`11:23.58`	`tweakism`	`Zeeek: But can it speak whatever protocol is on that line, and what hardware do I need?`
`11:24.07`	`tweakism`	`It's definitely not a normal analog telephone interface.`
`11:24.19`	`tweakism`	`oh, heh, get them to install asterisk :P`
`11:24.27`	`Zeeek`	`you'll have to look the stuff up on the wiki or the mailing list`
`11:24.31`	`tweakism`	`ok.`
`11:24.42`	`Zeeek`	`search for the name of the pbx for example`
`11:25.03`	`tweakism`	`I can't remember it.`
`11:25.05`	`tweakism`	`Will have to check.`
`11:25.11`	`Zeeek`	`it's important`
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`12:05.11`	`Zeeek`	`wow`
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`12:44.18`	`tzanger`	`no way`
`12:44.32`	`tzanger`	`this channel was dead for 30 minutes/`
`12:44.34`	`tzanger`	`??`
`12:44.38`	`tzanger`	`never`
`12:47.17`	`nesys`	`yep, never`
`12:47.56`	`newl`	`sshhh..they're sleeping. ;)`
`12:49.10`	`nesys`	`ghgh ;)`
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`12:52.38`	`Zeeek`	`more than 30`
`12:52.43`	`Zeeek`	`39`
`12:52.52`	`Zeeek`	`Easter Sunday!`
`12:54.33`	`tzanger`	`craziness`
`12:54.43`	`Zeeek`	`looking for eggs?`
`12:54.46`	`tzanger`	`hahaha`
`12:54.48`	`Zeeek`	`I just ate one`
`12:54.50`	`nesys`	`ahahaha`
`12:54.55`	`tzanger`	`everyone's typing random shit into asterisk trying to find the easter egg`
`12:55.16`	`Zeeek`	`I had a weird experience`
`12:55.43`	`nesys`	`uhmm ... easter_egg.so ?`
`12:56.15`	`nesys`	`:)`
`12:57.47`	`Zeeek`	`who's the dialplan wizard here?`
`12:59.15`	`Zeeek`	`I'll ask anyway since that was a trick question`
`12:59.45`	`Zeeek`	`users have a local phonebook in their phone - it dials NNNNNNNNNN`
`13:00.24`	`Zeeek`	`I wanted to give them a prefix like *# to dial, then hit the local button`
`13:00.44`	`Zeeek`	`wanted a pause and wait for the NNNNNNNNNN`
`13:01.00`	`Zeeek`	`and not *#NNNNNNNNNN`
`13:02.13`	`nesys`	`mmm ... I know that on ccme, not on asterisk ... sry`
`13:02.44`	`Zeeek`	`I thouhgt waitexten would be good but it didn't work right`
`13:02.56`	`nesys`	`on ccme you need a regexp (a voice translation rule)`
`13:03.00`	`Zeeek`	`so I ended up setting a variable in the *# exten`
`13:03.15`	`Chuji`	`Zeeek : just use read on th *# and set a variable`
`13:03.29`	`Zeeek`	`in the regular dialout, this variable is checked and if it has a certain value, the special service dials the exten`
`13:03.37`	`Zeeek`	`exactly what I did`
`13:03.44`	`nesys`	`it doesn't work?`
`13:03.46`	`Zeeek`	`I wondered if there was a better way`
`13:03.49`	`Zeeek`	`yes it does`
`13:03.54`	`PCadach`	`Hello all! Could somebody explain dialplan's Hint usage?`
`13:04.09`	`Zeeek`	`I expected waitexten to do this: look for the exten dialed`
`13:04.16`	`Zeeek`	`in the SAME context`
`13:04.29`	`Chuji`	`PCadach Did you read about it on the wiki?`
`13:04.34`	`Zeeek`	`and while I was looking, show application waitexten has the wrong description`
`13:04.52`	`Zeeek`	`is shows the doc for wait !`
`13:05.27`	`Zeeek`	`so Chuji - you seem to know about this stuff -`
`13:05.44`	`Chuji`	`PCadach : It's mostly used for mapping a channel to something tangable so that you can get it's current state`
`13:06.09`	`Zeeek`	`why does gotoif($[$[var] = sthing]]) sometimes give a syntax error ?`
`13:06.30`	`Zeeek`	`is it because quotes are needed for string compares?`
`13:06.31`	`Chuji`	`not all the time?`
`13:06.37`	`PCadach`	`I looks a way to specify relation between a number and owner's name.`
`13:06.38`	`Zeeek`	`I don't find this specified anywhere`
`13:08.14`	`nesys`	`Zeeek you have too many ]`
`13:08.14`	`Chuji`	`that isn't all of your gotoif is it?`
`13:08.26`	`Zeeek`	`no theres ?100)`
`13:08.45`	`Zeeek`	`it is = and not == right?`
`13:08.55`	`Chuji`	`right`
`13:09.04`	`Chuji`	`and as nesys said, you are out of balance`
`13:09.14`	`Zeeek`	`seems like there's some funniness with a string`
`13:09.36`	`newl`	`Zeeek: GotoIt($["${var}" = "foo"]?x:y)`
`13:09.37`	`Chuji`	`problaby need to quote your string too`
`13:10.18`	`Zeeek`	`let me show you: this always works: GotoIf($[${vacation} = 0]?from-POTS1036,s,2)`
`13:10.51`	`Zeeek`	`and so does this: GotoIf($[X${CALLERIDNUM} = X]?s,7)`
`13:11.29`	`Zeeek`	`but this: GotoIf($[${CALLERIDNUM} = string]?s,7) created problems`
`13:11.45`	`Zeeek`	`ah wait I see now`
`13:11.52`	`Zeeek`	`youi can't compare to null`
`13:12.41`	`Zeeek`	`newl - yeah I see thatnow`
`13:14.30`	`newl`	`GotoIf(${NULLVAR}?x:y) in theory should work but some of the docs I've seen indicate potentially otherwise.`
`13:14.51`	`Zeeek`	`it caused the ast_yyerror`
`13:15.02`	`newl`	`Watching the console with debug and verbose enabled is a good indication of what's happening.`
`13:15.07`	`Zeeek`	`I always wondered about that - I had it before and changed the formulation slightly`
`13:15.13`	`newl`	`Yep, that'd probable be the exception. :)`
`13:15.17`	`newl`	`-e+y`
`13:15.29`	`Zeeek`	`no, it never said anything except that error - and further caused a very odd behavior`
`13:15.59`	`Zeeek`	`calling a number and hanging up didn't hang up but kept waiting for the phone to answer`
`13:16.03`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`Zeeek: the ${CALLERIDNUM} = string works if you put quotes around both (usually)`
`13:16.59`	`Zeeek`	`the original formulation I was given long ago was : $[X${CALLERIDNUM} = X]`
`13:17.04`	`Zeeek`	`which does always work`
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`13:17.47`	`Zeeek`	`since that var is rarely empty on a call from local extensions it made it hard to notice`
`13:18.01`	`Zeeek`	`interesting`
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`13:20.51`	`t0pCop`	`Anyone using FXO module?`
`13:20.53`	`queuetue`	`What does "No authority found" indicate when attempting an AIX connection? I've set up an entry in iax.conf, and I'm using user:password@host ...`
`13:21.25`	`Chuji`	`invalid authentication`
`13:21.29`	`Chuji`	`ie password mismatch`
`13:22.13`	`t0pCop`	`Can it support call roaming, i.e more than one call simultanously`
`13:23.27`	`Chuji`	`fxo on a tdm400?`
`13:23.39`	`Chuji`	`Yes, it supports call waiting, three way calling, etc`
`13:23.55`	`Chuji`	`wait, let me check that`
`13:23.58`	`Chuji`	`It might not`
`13:27.50`	`queuetue`	`Can someone take a look here and see if this looks right for IAX authentication? http://paste.lisp.org/display/6955 This is the configuration that gives me "no authority found" when I dial extension 1003...`
`13:30.20`	`queuetue`	`Is there a permissions scheme I'm not aware of?`
`13:31.03`	`Chuji`	`queuetue : What does iax2 debug show on North computer?`
`13:32.25`	`queuetue`	`Chuji, *CLI> Mar 27 08:21:24 WARNING[27045]: chan_iax2.c:5565 socket_read: Call rejected by [north ip]: No authority found`
`13:32.50`	`queuetue`	`Oh, sorry - that was a south report. North coming up.`
`13:39.49`	`queuetue`	`Chuji, http://paste.lisp.org/display/6955#1`
`13:45.37`	`queuetue`	`any ideas?`
`13:46.38`	`Chuji`	`It actually looks good`
`13:46.52`	`Chuji`	`what does iax2 show peers look like on North?`
`13:46.59`	`Chuji`	`does it show a listing for south?`
`13:48.29`	`queuetue`	`Chuji, Yes.`
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`13:49.56`	`Chuji`	`comment out the secret and use no auth for a test`
`13:51.29`	`queuetue`	`Chuji, Same...`
`13:51.52`	`queuetue`	`(do i have to decalre "no auth" or simply comment out the secret?)`
`13:52.53`	`Chuji`	`just comment it out is fine`
`13:52.59`	`Chuji`	`and reload south`
`13:54.19`	`queuetue`	`commented out and restarted both (not sure what a reload covers yet) - no change.`
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`14:19.05`	`queuetue`	`Wierd - North is reachable by south, but south is not reachable by north... firewalls are set up identical, and the iax.conf s are identical, except for the swapped IPs...`
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`14:22.34`	`queuetue`	`Do the contexts have to have the same name in iax.conf?`
`14:22.51`	`marlowe`	`When you say reachable.. Do you mean not reachable or they're not authenticating?`
`14:23.03`	`marlowe`	`If they're not reachable, then asterisk is out of the picture at this point.`
`14:23.11`	`marlowe`	`Make sure north can ping south and south can ping north`
`14:24.04`	`queuetue`	`marlowe, Originally, I meant not authenticating. Now, I mean that north reports that south is unreachable, whereas south reports that north _is_ reachable. Both can ssh to each other, and the firewalls are set up identically (forwading iax port to the actual server.)`
`14:24.42`	`marlowe`	`So north and south are behind firewalls?`
`14:24.50`	`marlowe`	`They each have there own unique ip?`
`14:25.15`	`queuetue`	`marlowe, both are behind NAT firewalls, with the firewwall forwarding the IAX port to the server.`
`14:25.32`	`queuetue`	`They are behind different firewalls.`
`14:25.43`	`marlowe`	`Ok`
`14:25.55`	`marlowe`	`Watch iax2 debug - See if they're trying to register.`
`14:26.26`	`queuetue`	`They are. poke, poke, poke.`
`14:27.07`	`queuetue`	`south can see north right away. north never sees south...`
`14:28.43`	`queuetue`	`bounsing south firewall - will return.`
`14:28.47`	`queuetue`	`bouncing.`
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`14:31.46`	`HiB`	`Anyone here have Cox, I think they are blocking IAX phone calls in and out?`
`14:34.47`	`znoG`	`that'd piss me off`
`14:35.05`	`_queuetue`	`It says south is unreachable, but I can reach it just fine, via ssh, ping and http ... The port is forwarded - what else could this be? Could the IAX port be blocked by the ISP?`
`14:35.34`	`_queuetue`	`Hrm. Just noticed the previous question was the same. :)`
`14:35.54`	`blitzrage`	`HiB: have you tried a different port?`
`14:36.01`	`HiB`	`I had 2 backups of my Asterisk box, and I run a 2nd one remote that one is fine`
`14:36.13`	`marlowe`	`_queuetue: That's possible, obviously...`
`14:36.27`	`marlowe`	`Call them up and ask to be sure`
`14:36.52`	`marlowe`	`My ISP blocks port 25 and 80`
`14:36.54`	`marlowe`	`Thats it`
`14:36.56`	`_queuetue`	`marlowe, Bell Canada is not the most fun organiztion to call. :) But I suppose...`
`14:37.09`	`HiB`	`This is coxs they say that block nothing`
`14:37.17`	`marlowe`	`Well you can use a port scanner or like program`
`14:37.40`	`_queuetue`	`I suppose it coud also be blocked by TDS down here on south ...`
`14:38.10`	`marlowe`	`Just get a real ISP.. Get real IPs. Stop doing it behind NAT`
`14:38.12`	`marlowe`	`:)`
`14:38.21`	`HiB`	`How would I change the port to do the test call on 500?`
`14:38.31`	`_queuetue`	`marlowe, Are you offerring to subsidize?`
`14:38.32`	`blitzrage`	`check iax.conf`
`14:38.39`	`_queuetue`	`:)`
`14:38.58`	`HiB`	`[general]`
`14:38.58`	`HiB`	`port=5036`
`14:39.10`	`marlowe`	`lol`
`14:39.11`	`blitzrage`	`it SHOULD NOT be port 5036`
`14:39.18`	`_queuetue`	`port can be set on a section-by-section basis, or does it have to be in the general section, affecting everyone?`
`14:39.26`	`HiB`	`then what, I have been useing that for over 1 year`
`14:39.28`	`blitzrage`	`in the general section`
`14:39.29`	`marlowe`	`_queuetue: everyone`
`14:39.34`	`blitzrage`	`4569`
`14:39.40`	`blitzrage`	`5036 is for IAX1`
`14:39.44`	`blitzrage`	`IAX1 is dead`
`14:39.44`	`marlowe`	`4569`
`14:40.05`	`marlowe`	`I was a bit lagged over there`
`14:40.10`	`blitzrage`	`file[laptop]: hehehe`
`14:40.16`	`file[laptop]`	`helllllllllo blitzrage`
`14:40.19`	`blitzrage`	`ahoi!`
`14:40.25`	`blitzrage`	`gotta go and walk the dog now though...`
`14:40.28`	`file[laptop]`	`yes, you do`
`14:40.32`	`blitzrage`	`back in a bit`
`14:40.41`	`file[laptop]`	`if you say so`
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`14:42.12`	`HiB`	`this is what I get when calling 500`
`14:42.19`	`HiB`	`WARNING[2367]: chan_iax2.c:1477 attempt_transmit: Max retries exceeded to host 216.207.245.8 on IAX2/216.207.245.8:4569/24 (type = 6, subclass = 1, ts=17, seqno=0)`
`14:42.34`	`HiB`	`but my 2nd asterisk box remote connects fine`
`14:42.47`	`file[laptop]`	`so early in the morning...`
`14:43.21`	`HiB`	`FWD iax is not working, but SIP is working just fine`
`14:45.40`	`marlowe`	`I find that hard to believe`
`14:45.43`	`marlowe`	`I dont use FWD though`
`14:46.11`	`HiB`	`nothing iax is working`
`14:47.56`	`zoa`	`heya all`
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`15:08.36`	`Darwin[laptop]`	`Happy Easter all`
`15:09.32`	`znoG`	`likewise!`
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`15:12.36`	`file[laptop]`	`yay apartment-like-related replies`
`15:12.43`	`phantam`	`hey guys ya'll will be proud to know that i moved from h323 to sip :)`
`15:12.56`	`phantam`	`so no more rousing phantam :)`
`15:13.23`	`phantam`	`quick question is there a way to increase a sip users reliability over quality`
`15:13.47`	`phantam`	`cause i have someone on a bad wireless link that she can barely here the calls and i wounder if theres a way to drop quality to reduce the stutter`
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`15:14.58`	`riksta`	`hi, i've just top posted.....thanks`
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`15:16.08`	`phantam`	`hmmm no ones aroumd?`
`15:21.17`	`Saback`	`chan_zap.c:7143 zt_pri_error: PRI: !! No channel map, no channel, and no ds1? What am I supposed to identify?`
`15:22.05`	`CaNaBiS`	`is there any voip that does reliable fax sending?`
`15:23.31`	`Shido`	`.`
`15:26.31`	`marlowe`	`CaNaBiS: Sure.. Vonage.`
`15:26.32`	`marlowe`	`:)`
`15:31.36`	`CaNaBiS`	`didnt know that`
`15:31.54`	`Shido`	`nufone, ulaw works for faxing`
`15:32.24`	`coppice`	`Shido: sometimes :-)`
`15:32.38`	`CaNaBiS`	`who has the cheapest service for just outcalling? I dont need a DID number. I have a Sipura and I also have a hard sip phone.`
`15:44.15`	`yaboo`	`whats the best vid conf client to use so far`
`15:44.24`	`yaboo`	`e.g. eyebeam, messenger?`
`15:44.46`	`znoG`	`CaNaBiS: voipjet aren't bad`
`15:48.44`	`Chuji`	`CaNaBiS : Don't be such a cheap ass and get a home phone`
`15:49.02`	`CaNaBiS`	`heh, I did, wanna get rid of it`
`15:49.17`	`CaNaBiS`	`pm me`
`15:55.27`	`marlowe`	`cann: Shop around`
`15:55.42`	`marlowe`	`Everyone has different results with different provider`
`15:55.51`	`marlowe`	`I think it greatly depends on where your located many times as well`
`15:56.26`	`marlowe`	`For example I get 12ms ping times to livevoip.. My traceroute is only 6 hops. Thats one reason I choose livevoip over others.`
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`16:00.31`	`johngalt`	`anyone know of a service that will route pstn incomming to sip like ipkall but that's provider agnostic?`
`16:01.20`	`Shido`	`NuFone`
`16:02.37`	`johngalt`	`does nufone charge for did's - nice thing about ipkall is free washington state numbers...but only to fwd`
`16:03.34`	`Shido`	`7.50 /month michigan numbers inbound calls free of charge, 8xx numbers 2 cents/minute`
`16:05.21`	`johngalt`	`k, a lot of providers offer "rental" of did's I was wondering if anyone did free ones like ipkall but not latched only to fwd.`
`16:05.52`	`file[laptop]`	`ipkall will send to other places... like directly to your box`
`16:06.00`	`marlowe`	`johngalt: libratel`
`16:06.12`	`marlowe`	`libretel`
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`16:08.25`	`newl`	`Aren't all those *kall phones H.323 based?`
`16:08.39`	`johngalt`	`ah, ok thought ipkall was fwd only - well that solves the pstn did problem...I hope.`
`16:09.04`	`johngalt`	`pretty sure ipkall does sip`
`16:11.09`	`newl`	`Got a mate of mine that bought one rebadged by mammakall that was h.323 only and locked into them in firmware. I told him to take it back, save some money by buying a GT101. :)`
`16:11.28`	`file[laptop]`	`newl: we're talking about a provider called ipkall`
`16:12.19`	`johngalt`	`I'm thinking though doesn't your sip device have to register with each sip provider it wants to use seperately?`
`16:12.27`	`file[laptop]`	`johngalt: no`
`16:12.31`	`newl`	`hah poor choice of name then to be even remotely associated with the other *kall rebadges. :)`
`16:12.34`	`file[laptop]`	`johngalt: registration is not needed`
`16:12.58`	`file[laptop]`	`johngalt: they just send it to your IP or host... if it's going to change, then you need a dynamic dns sub-domain or something`
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`16:13.53`	`johngalt`	`ok - I'm used to my sip devives having to register`
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`16:17.11`	`johngalt`	`what I want to do is get my parents who only have a cablemodem but no phone setup with voip....but it's gotta take pstn calls and possibly also make them - but I have a few options figured out for making them. either a sipphone account or route through my * box on outbound.`
`16:19.02`	`_IQ_`	`johngal: do they have a real phone at home that they can use in case of emergency - like 911, etc. ?`
`16:19.24`	`johngalt`	`any suggestions on setting up a remote phone like this so the latency doesn't become huge due to routing.`
`16:19.36`	`coppice`	`emergencies like getting broadband support? :-)`
`16:19.48`	`johngalt`	`well they have nothing there now`
`16:20.05`	`johngalt`	`so anything would be an improvement`
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`16:21.00`	`_IQ_`	`My Uncle, who is about 50 yrs old. He got AT&T CallVantage, and he knows nothing about computers. He faced lots of problems and finally switched back to Regular Phone`
`16:21.31`	`newl`	`AT&T hehe..you can blame SBC now. 8)`
`16:21.31`	`johngalt`	`sometimes a cell phone is there but this is for when the cell phone is elsewhere`
`16:22.22`	`_IQ_`	`Lingo is cheap, you get free US/Canada and Western Europe calls :)`
`16:22.48`	`johngalt`	`most of the time they walk to a payphone. mostly I'd like to be able to call them durring the week`
`16:23.44`	`marlowe`	`at&t/sbc callvnatage is the worst service`
`16:23.47`	`johngalt`	`just how cheap?`
`16:23.56`	`marlowe`	`I was on the beta test team from the start. It was horrible.`
`16:24.00`	`bjohnson`	`johngalt: ipkall offers free Washington state DIDs .. don't know why. Nobody else seems to be able to figure out how to make any money at that .. so you will find they are not available anywhere else`
`16:24.06`	`_IQ_`	`19/months - http://www.lingo.com`
`16:24.12`	`marlowe`	`I found the quality, the features, the support, the hardware, everything about them... Horrible`
`16:24.26`	`drumkilla`	`on a sidenote ... AT&T was showing off Asterisk at their booth at Spring VON a few weeks ago`
`16:24.58`	`drumkilla`	`that was exciting :)`
`16:25.13`	`johngalt`	`ipkall probably makes money on terminations`
`16:26.12`	`bjohnson`	`in what way?`
`16:26.17`	`johngalt`	`every provider along the way gets a chunk of the rate you pay`
`16:26.24`	`file[laptop]`	`for every call they get, they make money`
`16:26.26`	`bjohnson`	`they offer free dids? they charge for outgoing?`
`16:26.41`	`bjohnson`	`ahh .. so free did but you pay through the nose to use it`
`16:27.00`	`marlowe`	`no.. but even still. i dont see how they make enough money to give the service away for free`
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`16:27.35`	`bjohnson`	`so they offer inbound limited to washington state dids. Do they offer outbound?`
`16:27.42`	`file[laptop]`	`no.`
`16:27.53`	`bjohnson`	`I don't see any rates on their site`
`16:27.54`	`johngalt`	`no the person that calls the did pays for phone service. their phone company pays ipcall a portion for their part in connecting that call`
`16:28.10`	`Qwell`	`What is it, a 976 provider?`
`16:28.16`	`marlowe`	`no`
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`16:28.34`	`marlowe`	`What john said`
`16:28.52`	`Qwell`	`wait...the telco pays them?`
`16:28.58`	`johngalt`	`yup`
`16:29.05`	`bjohnson`	`I guess only washington state has phone companies crazy enough to get into that kind of deal`
`16:29.05`	`file[laptop]`	`it's the way everything works...`
`16:29.05`	`NormAst`	`Hi all..`
`16:29.20`	`Qwell`	`bjohnson: yeah, thats kinda dumb on their part. heh`
`16:29.45`	`Qwell`	`"Please steal our business. We'll pay you!"`
`16:30.04`	`marlowe`	`umm`
`16:30.07`	`marlowe`	`not really`
`16:30.11`	`bjohnson`	`uh .. we'll sell you a phone service including a number .. or you can use these other guys and we'll pay them so you don't have to`
`16:30.11`	`NormAst`	`Is there a wait with a .call file that if it fails it goes to a creatian extension?`
`16:30.17`	`NormAst`	`wait = way`
`16:30.22`	`NormAst`	`:)`
`16:30.45`	`johngalt`	`thats as I understand it - and not just in washington state but nation wide...I think they limit it to wa state because that's where they have a presence`
`16:31.08`	`johngalt`	`otherwise they'd have to pay backhaul`
`16:31.20`	`Qwell`	`nah, I bet the telcos would pay it for them`
`16:32.33`	`Essobi`	`I'm highly offended.`
`16:32.33`	`bjohnson`	`I think if it were that simple / easy .. there would be companies all over the place offering free DIDs`
`16:32.40`	`IQ`	`if we can get this kind of service everywhere in US then no one will have to pay :)`
`16:32.46`	`Essobi`	`In googles quest to become PC`
`16:32.56`	`file[laptop]`	`the company behind ipkall does a lot of stuff`
`16:33.02`	`Essobi`	`They didn't run a easter google banner this year`
`16:33.11`	`Essobi`	`err.. google logo`
`16:33.21`	`Qwell`	`Essobi: I think because its a religious holiday`
`16:33.27`	`file[laptop]`	`k7, laser voicemail, kall8, etc`
`16:33.28`	`Essobi`	`Well, DUH.`
`16:33.31`	`Qwell`	`much moreso then like Christmas`
`16:33.39`	`johngalt`	`has to do with the way tariffs are written... if you wrer a telco wouldn't you want to get paid for time and usage on your network`
`16:33.40`	`Essobi`	`Yea, right..`
`16:34.01`	`Essobi`	`The birth of Jesus is a lot more different then the REBIRTH of Jesus`
`16:34.34`	`Qwell`	`you can at least pretend christmas is about something else. like when santa was born, or something :p`
`16:34.45`	`Essobi`	`Haha, no, I wouldn't.`
`16:35.25`	`Essobi`	`Alright.. I'm out.. just wanted to bitch about that. :)`
`16:37.22`	`file[laptop]`	`you're all evil`
`16:37.23`	`file[laptop]`	`EVIL`
`16:37.50`	`drumkilla`	`file[laptop] is the evil one`
`16:38.03`	`file[laptop]`	`I'm nice, tell them!`
`16:38.16`	`drumkilla`	`nope. evil.`
`16:38.19`	`file[laptop]`	`bah`
`16:39.17`	`drumkilla`	`file[laptop] just likes to flood this channel with pointless messages`
`16:39.21`	`file[laptop]`	`nah`
`16:39.50`	`ManxPower`	`drumkilla: I'll bet he's just a tease.`
`16:40.01`	`drumkilla`	`he is`
`16:40.10`	`file[laptop]`	`noooo`
`16:40.28`	`drumkilla`	`he tickles me all the time in here, but in person? not once!`
`16:40.37`	`ManxPower`	`Yup! He's a tease.`
`16:40.51`	`file[laptop]`	`:(`
`16:40.54`	`file[laptop]`	`there's always next time`
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`16:41.22`	`D1ng0`	`grrrrrrrrrrrrr`
`16:42.44`	`Qwell`	`tip: When handing your wife a can of soda, don't jokingly say "watch out, it might explode"`
`16:42.52`	`Qwell`	`because if it explodes...you're gonna have a bad day`
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`16:44.29`	`nesys`	`folks, I've to forward some calls from 3 numbers to the same number ... how could I do? I'm thinking about context like that: <num1or2o3>,1,Dial(SIP/<int>,45)`
`16:44.42`	`nesys`	`but how <num1or2o3> ?`
`16:45.19`	`Chuji`	`do them indidually`
`16:45.29`	`nesys`	`3 contexts?`
`16:45.40`	`Chuji`	`Just three dials`
`16:45.53`	`Chuji`	`_Num1,1,Dial(Sip/etc)`
`16:45.57`	`Chuji`	`_Num2,1,Dial(Sip/etc)`
`16:45.59`	`Chuji`	`_Num3,1,Dial(Sip/etc)`
`16:46.37`	`nesys`	`ah ok :) thanks!`
`16:52.30`	`nesys`	`if I need to register n.3 accounts SIP from external public SIP server on my *`
`16:52.58`	`nesys`	`I've to see those numbers in sip show peers or sip show registry?`
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`16:53.41`	`PTG1234`	`howdy`
`16:54.01`	`Qwell`	`y0`
`16:54.19`	`PTG1234`	`Qwell: did you go easter egg hunting with the little one? :)`
`16:54.35`	`Qwell`	`well...we'd have to hide them all in various parts of his crib. heh`
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`16:54.52`	`PTG1234`	`hehe`
`16:54.56`	`PTG1234`	`its never too early :)`
`16:57.16`	`nesys`	`Chuji could I forward to 601 internal number with:`
`16:57.40`	`nesys`	`register => num1:pass@sipserver:port/601`
`16:57.45`	`nesys`	`register => num2:pass@sipserver:port/601`
`16:57.49`	`nesys`	`register => num3:pass@sipserver:port/601`
`16:57.53`	`nesys`	`?`
`16:57.59`	`PTG1234`	`yah`
`16:58.23`	`hardwire`	`PTG1234: do you sleep?`
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`16:59.18`	`ManxPower`	`~docs`
`16:59.20`	`jbot`	`Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org`
`16:59.41`	`nesys`	`tnx :)`
`16:59.47`	`ManxPower`	`nesys: registration is totally dependent on your provider.`
`17:00.45`	`PTG1234`	`hardwire: i try not to`
`17:00.50`	`PTG1234`	`hardwire`
`17:00.52`	`IQ`	`~list`
`17:00.53`	`jbot`	`one warez list being sent`
`17:00.55`	`PTG1234`	`hardwire: goes back to the having kids thing`
`17:01.00`	`hardwire`	`heh`
`17:01.07`	`hardwire`	`do they do bad things to you?`
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`17:04.03`	`PTG123`	`sigh`
`17:04.13`	`hardwire`	`they chew through your cat-5 again?`
`17:04.21`	`PTG123`	`hehe`
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`17:04.41`	`PTG123`	`nah dhcp screwed up and assigned another pc the same ip as mine`
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`17:15.32`	`t0pCop`	`can Asterisk accept calls from remote SIP clients?`
`17:15.47`	`PTG123`	`yes`
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`17:16.16`	`Draylon`	`hey guys, anyone got time for a few basic questions?`
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`17:17.53`	`Blackvel`	`I have a 10secs brain`
`17:18.14`	`Blackvel`	`where was the path to the sounds files in asterisk which I could play for test and listen for DTMF?`
`17:18.22`	`Blackvel`	`I mean what linux path?`
`17:18.23`	`Draylon`	`heh i cant tell if this irc program is working .... first timer to irc`
`17:19.06`	`roamer323`	`t0pCop - of course :-)`
`17:19.10`	`blitzrage`	`Draylon: not working :)`
`17:19.10`	`marlowe`	`Draylon: If you can see people talking... You can assume it's working.`
`17:19.20`	`blitzrage`	`Draylon: oh, and don't ask to ask, just ask.`
`17:19.41`	`roamer323`	`ABE - will this cause * to fork?`
`17:19.46`	`IQ`	`Blackvel: /var/lib/asterisk/sounds`
`17:20.10`	`Draylon`	`seems to come in spirts... nothing for about 3 min, then bam, i get about 10 messages from different people.`
`17:20.17`	`Draylon`	`err spurts`
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`17:20.32`	`Draylon`	`anywho..`
`17:20.40`	`IQ`	`Draylon: Network Deley. Using dialup ?`
`17:20.59`	`Draylon`	`gettting better... cable modem`
`17:21.29`	`Draylon`	`think its better now.`
`17:22.22`	`marlowe`	`Draylon: I think you're getting it in spurts because people are talking in spurts. :)`
`17:22.44`	`ManxPower`	`"Hi, I'm Draylon and I'm a first timer caller."`
`17:23.04`	`Qwell`	`Welcome to ManxPower radio`
`17:23.56`	`Draylon`	`anyway.. first question: what type of card do i connect a POTS line to`
`17:24.05`	`Draylon`	`like one in my house`
`17:24.07`	`Qwell`	`Draylon: FXO port`
`17:24.43`	`ManxPower`	`Draylon: TDM400P w/FXO port.`
`17:25.56`	`Draylon`	`Ok.. now, what can i attach my regular analog phones to? i have my asterick box working with software phones. but wife cant get into that.`
`17:26.05`	`Qwell`	`FXS`
`17:26.34`	`Draylon`	`are those the $7 cards you see on ebay?`
`17:26.51`	`IQ`	`$6.95`
`17:27.10`	`IQ`	`plus shipping`
`17:27.11`	`roamer323`	`Draylon - no that's the FXO card - now officially unsupported`
`17:27.46`	`Draylon`	`so... i can put 1 fxo, and say 4 fxs cards (one for each extension) into the same box?`
`17:28.00`	`roamer323`	`Draylon - an ATA is (a little computer in a box), ehternet in one side, line to phone out the other - cost approx $50 per port`
`17:28.25`	`Qwell`	`Draylon: the tdm400p has up to 4 ports`
`17:28.41`	`nesys`	`I've problems with SIP : sipaccounts <->asterisk<->ccme<->7960(int.601) ... I've to forward all calls from sipaccounts to int 601 ... the sip accounts are registered, the peer 601 also ... but it doesn't work, there's someone that could help me to understand?`
`17:29.03`	`ManxPower`	`Draylon: there are no 1 port FXS cards.`
`17:29.18`	`ManxPower`	`Get a TDM400P w/1xFXO and 3xFXS. About US$350`
`17:29.41`	`ManxPower`	`nesys: not all providers support /exten`
`17:30.12`	`hardwire`	`ManxPower: heh.. got a quickie question for you`
`17:30.20`	`ManxPower`	`hardwire: make it fast`
`17:30.21`	`Draylon`	`ok looking for that part...`
`17:30.22`	`hardwire`	`say you have 1 fxo and 3 fxs`
`17:30.30`	`hardwire`	`and the line the fxo is on has call waiting`
`17:30.43`	`hardwire`	`ever set up a method of flashing the fxo from any of the fxs?`
`17:30.44`	`ManxPower`	`hardwire: Sorry, I can't help with that. Turn off call waiting.`
`17:31.00`	`ManxPower`	`hardwire: No. I run Asterisk as a PBX, not as a glorified answering machine.`
`17:31.08`	`hardwire`	`jesus.. ok`
`17:31.12`	`ManxPower`	`PBXs don't have call waiting on FXO trunks.`
`17:31.40`	`hardwire`	`ManxPower: I use it as a glorified answering machine and PBX`
`17:31.52`	`ManxPower`	`hardwire: If you want to ignore my advice, then search the mailing lists for talk about sending a FLASH to the FXO port.`
`17:31.56`	`Draylon`	`who makes that TDM400P w/1xFXO and 3xFXS`
`17:32.02`	`Qwell`	`Draylon: digium`
`17:32.03`	`ManxPower`	`Draylon: Digium.`
`17:32.14`	`hardwire`	`ManxPower: yeh.. been there.. thanks though.`
`17:32.24`	`Qwell`	`They can be customized. 4 fxo, 4 fxs, 3/1, 2/2, 1/3, 1/2, whatever you want`
`17:32.46`	`ManxPower`	`Draylon: http://store.yahoo.com/asteriskpbx/newitd3pofxo.html`
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`17:33.39`	`roamer323`	`ABE (Asterisk Business Edition from Digium) - will this cause * to fork?`
`17:33.46`	`PTG123`	`you know how many months of internet voip service you could have for the price of that card :)`
`17:33.47`	`PTG123`	`heh`
`17:34.47`	`Draylon`	`to be sure.... this---> http://store.yahoo.com/asteriskpbx/witd4pofxsbu.html`
`17:35.03`	`Qwell`	`Draylon: That is 4 FXS ports`
`17:35.18`	`Draylon`	`oh... i see that link now... thx... looking`
`17:35.48`	`ManxPower`	`roamer323: no.`
`17:36.15`	`*** part/#asterisk rkjpl (~rk@adsl-209-233-135-56.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)`
`17:36.35`	`ManxPower`	`Draylon: The picture needs 3 green modules and 1 red module.`
`17:37.07`	`roamer323`	`ManxPower - you are saying Digium becomes the Redhat of * vendors, then?`
`17:37.14`	`ManxPower`	`roamer323: Hmm?`
`17:37.33`	`Draylon`	`ok... i think i understand that... ok next`
`17:37.43`	`ManxPower`	`roamer323: Digium has 1 code base, and more than 1 license available.`
`17:39.10`	`ManxPower`	`Digium has gotten a lot of flack over the 1 code base.`
`17:39.12`	`Draylon`	`since i have cable, i can sign up with say vonage.com, attach my regular analog phones to my cable modem and be able to use asterisk box as a pbx with voice mail?`
`17:39.29`	`*** join/#asterisk sezuan (sezuan@port-212-202-202-204.dynamic.qsc.de)`
`17:39.33`	`roamer323`	`ManxPower - the PR of ABE seems to say that ABE is more than bundled support, etc --- additional Digium-only code.`
`17:39.38`	`ManxPower`	`Draylon: not really. Vonage does not provide any way for Asterisk to detect that the caller has disconnected.`
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`17:39.39`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o bkw_] by ChanServ`
`17:40.07`	`Draylon`	`ok. any other provide out ther?`
`17:40.17`	`ManxPower`	`roamer323: I suspect the "Digium-only code" is just a web config interface or something silly like that`
`17:40.18`	`PTG123`	`Draylon: you know you could just buy a sip/iax account from a provider to get phone sevice and need no card right?`
`17:40.56`	`Draylon`	`tring to digest that...`
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`17:41.35`	`ManxPower`	`Draylon: Honestly, just spend the money and use a local analog line.`
`17:41.42`	`Draylon`	`provider.. a local baby bell provider, or a voip provider? sorry for being so lame... just new to me.`
`17:41.45`	`ManxPower`	`If you don't do that, you won't get "good" 911 service`
`17:42.04`	`roamer323`	`ManxPower: I hope so... this is way too early to start to mimic the Redhat Enterprise Edition vs CentOS fiasco, at lease wait until the SER people get their media gateway stablized :-(`
`17:42.06`	`PTG123`	`voip provider you don't need a normal phone line`
`17:42.23`	`PTG123`	`your gonna get cheapr long distance, cheaper rates, etc`
`17:42.34`	`PTG123`	`use your cell phone for 911`
`17:42.38`	`ManxPower`	`Draylon: Also do you really want to rely on your cablemodem for only phone service`
`17:42.44`	`PTG123`	`i haven't had an analog line in around 3 years`
`17:43.11`	`Draylon`	`my cable modem hasnt went out in about a year and a half now... its pretty good.`
`17:43.19`	`marlowe`	`PTG123: I'm going on 5 years..`
`17:43.37`	`marlowe`	`Even before asterisk I haven't used a "home" phone`
`17:43.38`	`PTG123`	`yah and if it goes out, you just reset it`
`17:43.43`	`PTG123`	`who cares :)`
`17:43.45`	`Draylon`	`but... i dont have small children, so not having a reilable 911 is a big down side.`
`17:43.53`	`PTG123`	`marlowe: yah i have used vonage for around 5 years :)`
`17:44.05`	`Qwell`	`vonage? eww!`
`17:44.06`	`Qwell`	`:p`
`17:44.09`	`PTG123`	`Draylon: you can get 911 from some providers`
`17:44.15`	`PTG123`	`Qwell: use to be the only way :)`
`17:44.19`	`ManxPower`	`PTG123: But not REAL E911`
`17:44.31`	`Qwell`	`I have an FXO port for 911`
`17:44.34`	`Draylon`	`yea, but not real 911. its like sudo 911. from what i read.`
`17:44.38`	`Qwell`	`I don't need no stinking service`
`17:44.50`	`marlowe`	`If 911 is your concern, you need a POTS line.`
`17:45.07`	`ManxPower`	`My POTS service is like $25/month`
`17:45.14`	`PTG123`	`you could make your own 911, just make sure the first thing you say is your address`
`17:45.20`	`PTG123`	`but like i said use your cell phone if your really worried`
`17:45.24`	`Qwell`	`PTG123: hell, even better...`
`17:45.29`	`ManxPower`	`I also prefer DSL`
`17:45.33`	`PTG123`	`i am told you can get a 911 onluy line super cheap`
`17:45.37`	`Qwell`	`exten => 911,1,Dial(blah)`
`17:45.47`	`Qwell`	`exten => 911,2,Play(My-Address-Is)`
`17:46.04`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell: You know as well as I do that that does NOT work.`
`17:46.09`	`Qwell`	`ManxPower: heh`
`17:46.12`	`marlowe`	`exten => 911,4,Playback(no-911-1)`
`17:46.13`	`IQ`	`PTG123: Configure your * to send your Cell Phone's CID so 911 people know where the call came from. And if they have a little commen sense they wont ask u for address`
`17:46.13`	`Qwell`	`Thats why I have my FXO`
`17:46.28`	`ManxPower`	`Once a Dial happens, the dialplan STOPs until dial exits`
`17:47.11`	`roamer323`	`My POTS service is $28 a month and they make me buy it to get the DSL on top (because they need to supply the voltage on the line, yeah right)`
`17:47.40`	`Inv_arp`	`roamer323: me 2`
`17:47.41`	`IQ`	`roamer323: I got DSL without a Phone line...`
`17:47.43`	`Qwell`	`ManxPower: it could be done with an AGI though, right?`
`17:47.49`	`Inv_arp`	`IQ: with?`
`17:47.53`	`IQ`	`Qwest`
`17:47.55`	`PTG123`	`qwell: yah`
`17:47.56`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell: There are ways, but they are all more complicated`
`17:47.57`	`Qwell`	`I had DSL for a while...I didn't pay my Verizon bill, and they shut off the phone`
`17:48.08`	`Qwell`	`I kept the earthlink bill up, so I still had my DSL service`
`17:48.08`	`Draylon`	`yea, u can get dsl here, without a pots line. also u can get cable modem without cable.`
`17:48.16`	`Inv_arp`	`Qwell: hmm`
`17:48.22`	`Inv_arp`	`not a bad idea`
`17:48.24`	`bkw_`	`soon you won't be able to get DSL without a pots line`
`17:48.25`	`Qwell`	`I used dialpad.com to call the verizon operators, heh`
`17:48.30`	`bkw_`	`the FCC reversed the rules`
`17:48.38`	`Inv_arp`	`lol`
`17:48.43`	`bkw_`	`they will no longer be forced to allow that`
`17:48.48`	`PTG123`	`we have ADSL here or whatever, uses firberoptics so don't need a phone line`
`17:48.58`	`bkw_`	`its not ADSL then if it uses fiber`
`17:48.59`	`Qwell`	`Inv_arp: using nothing but a pair of headphones, and a friend to switch the cable back and forth from mic to speaker`
`17:49.00`	`Inv_arp`	`bkw_: u mean get dsl without line?`
`17:49.04`	`IQ`	`the thing I like about DSL is that I always get more than 850kbps up stream - which mean good sound quality on more lines :)`
`17:49.05`	`bkw_`	`naked DSL`
`17:49.12`	`PTG123`	`bkw_: well whatever it is`
`17:49.18`	`bkw_`	`FTTH`
`17:49.19`	`roamer323`	`cable sux big time around this neck of the woods - whenever the kids in the neighbourhood comes back from school and start their BT Global (not British Telecom), most people only get 110k upstream (0.7 x 1 channel ulaw)`
`17:49.21`	`Inv_arp`	`heh ialpad still exists`
`17:49.21`	`bkw_`	`or something like that`
`17:49.22`	`Qwell`	`fttp?`
`17:49.24`	`marlowe`	`Verizon by me is pushing 1.54 adsl for $99/mo`
`17:49.25`	`Inv_arp`	`err dialpad`
`17:49.27`	`Qwell`	`verizon calls is fios`
`17:49.33`	`bkw_`	`Qwell, same thing really`
`17:49.34`	`Qwell`	`Inv_arp: dialpad used to be free`
`17:49.37`	`PTG123`	`no i think they call it ADSL actually here`
`17:49.55`	`bjohnson`	`Qwell: I think the dial command itself has an option to play a file`
`17:49.56`	`Qwell`	`bkw_: yeah, it is. They're just calling it something different...marketing`
`17:50.00`	`Qwell`	`bjohnson: ahh`
`17:50.03`	`Inv_arp`	`Qwell: yeah "Dailpad A cisco powered Network"`
`17:50.06`	`PTG123`	`they call it ?DSL :)`
`17:50.10`	`PTG123`	`not sure what the? is`
`17:50.38`	`Qwell`	`I'd sever a random bodypart to get fttp...`
`17:50.56`	`ManxPower`	`I'd give up my first born for FTTP`
`17:50.59`	`Inv_arp`	`bkw_: your saying providers must allow naked dsl or not?`
`17:51.14`	`Inv_arp`	`fttp?`
`17:51.19`	`bkw_`	`Inv_arp, not`
`17:51.19`	`Qwell`	`fiber to the premise`
`17:51.21`	`IQ`	`roamer323: 110 is bad`
`17:51.28`	`bjohnson`	`that is the new rule in Canada`
`17:51.29`	`Inv_arp`	`ahh`
`17:51.33`	`ManxPower`	`Inv_arp: It depends on the state, but the FCC recently ruled that ILECs don't have to provide naked DSL`
`17:51.34`	`marlowe`	`not anymore at least`
`17:51.37`	`Qwell`	`Inv_arp: verizon.net/fios`
`17:51.38`	`Qwell`	`its insane`
`17:51.47`	`bkw_`	`ManxPower, the states can't rule on it either`
`17:51.52`	`bkw_`	`the FCC specifically said so`
`17:52.02`	`roamer323`	`bjohnson - you know anyone who actually has naked DSL yet?`
`17:52.03`	`bkw_`	`now the ILEC can do it`
`17:52.06`	`*** part/#asterisk PTG123 (~PTG123@ip68-106-24-139.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`17:52.07`	`bkw_`	`if they wanna be nice`
`17:52.16`	`Inv_arp`	`i woud get cable but comcast hast 1 gig limits on newsgroups`
`17:52.26`	`*** join/#asterisk PTG123 (~PTG123@ip68-106-24-139.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`17:52.30`	`PTG123`	`that was weird`
`17:52.32`	`Qwell`	`adelphia has 5gb`
`17:52.35`	`bkw_`	`Inv_arp, go get giganews`
`17:52.40`	`Qwell`	`but...the default password is...password`
`17:52.47`	`Inv_arp`	`my pr0n collection needs a little more than that`
`17:52.49`	`Inv_arp`	`:)`
`17:52.53`	`Qwell`	`and account names are like, "bsmith2", "jdoe9"`
`17:53.08`	`Inv_arp`	`bkw_: yea might do that but damn it $15 a month`
`17:53.25`	`PTG123`	`cox has unlimited newsgroups`
`17:53.36`	`Draylon`	`ok so here is what i understand.. i can get a TDM400P card with 3 fxs ports, and connect it to my POTS line, and connect my other phones to the other ports.. then asterisk will act as a pbx, with a automated attendent (dial 1 or him, dial 2 for her, dial 3 for fax) and have voice mail and all that other jazz?`
`17:53.36`	`PTG123`	`and i get like 4Mbps to them :)`
`17:53.39`	`Qwell`	`adelphia doesn't cap the speed, which is great`
`17:53.49`	`bkw_`	`SUCKS`
`17:53.50`	`Qwell`	`I found out just last night, that I'm now at 5mbit/512`
`17:53.58`	`bkw_`	`Inv_arp, giganews ROCKS`
`17:54.00`	`Inv_arp`	`man`
`17:54.12`	`bkw_`	`they have a 30 day retention on most binary groups`
`17:54.19`	`Qwell`	`adelphia has like 90 days :p`
`17:54.33`	`bkw_`	`bug I doubt they have the same selection giganews does`
`17:54.40`	`bkw_`	`s/bug/but/`
`17:54.47`	`Inv_arp`	`bkw_: heh too bad most proggies "newsrover" can never list them all`
`17:54.49`	`bkw_`	`giganews has 180 days on text groups`
`17:55.02`	`Draylon`	`that sound right ?`
`17:55.14`	`Inv_arp`	`i must say i like search feature on giganews`
`17:55.34`	`Inv_arp`	`don't think nget supports that tho`
`17:55.37`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`17:55.53`	`Qwell`	`adelphia uses giganews`
`17:55.53`	`bkw_`	`Inv_arp, its powered by datafoundry... aka texas.net`
`17:56.08`	`Inv_arp`	`nice`
`17:56.11`	`bkw_`	`they own a 3 story bank valt`
`17:56.14`	`bkw_`	`you can colo in`
`17:57.12`	`Inv_arp`	`hey are cisco routers still no #1 these days?`
`17:57.21`	`cypromis`	`depends on size`
`17:57.37`	`cypromis`	`if it goes big most people probably prefer juniper`
`17:57.49`	`Inv_arp`	`but ever since linux i have never looked back`
`17:58.04`	`bkw_`	`linux is not a router..`
`17:58.05`	`bkw_`	`it can do it`
`17:58.17`	`Inv_arp`	`linux administration i should say`
`17:58.19`	`bkw_`	`but I don't like the idea of putting a critical thing like my core router on linux`
`17:58.24`	`*** join/#asterisk techie (gus@asterisk.horizonte.us)`
`17:58.26`	`TomL`	`depends on what interfaces you need, what application`
`17:58.35`	`cypromis`	`we used to do a lot of routing on freebsd`
`17:58.45`	`bkw_`	`I would trust freebsd over linux`
`17:58.51`	`TomL`	`there's no way to do a generic DS3 interface into a linux router`
`17:58.55`	`TomL`	`for example`
`17:59.00`	`cypromis`	`TomL: there is`
`17:59.02`	`bkw_`	`TomL, yes their is`
`17:59.09`	`TomL`	`how?`
`17:59.14`	`cypromis`	`send me a request I sell you one`
`17:59.15`	`cypromis`	`;)`
`17:59.17`	`Chuji`	`uhhg, giganews isn't that cheap`
`17:59.24`	`bkw_`	`Chuji, but it rocks`
`17:59.28`	`TomL`	`no no, generically`
`17:59.29`	`Qwell`	`Chuji: $25/month for unlimited`
`17:59.30`	`Inv_arp`	`TomL: pci limitations?`
`17:59.34`	`Qwell`	`according to this email from adelphia`
`17:59.38`	`Chuji`	`yeah`
`17:59.42`	`TomL`	`there's no board available with Linux drivers`
`17:59.44`	`Chuji`	`25 bucks is expensive`
`17:59.50`	`cypromis`	`toml: there is`
`17:59.54`	`TomL`	`no, there isn't`
`17:59.56`	`TomL`	`name it then`
`17:59.59`	`bkw_`	`Chuji, no its not... hehe`
`17:59.59`	`Chuji`	`unless you are getting all your mp3's and warez from there :)`
`18:00.08`	`ManxPower`	`This is #asterisk. Everyone here is a cheap bastard.`
`18:00.11`	`bkw_`	`HOLY SHIT`
`18:00.12`	`Chuji`	`for just text, it's expensive`
`18:00.14`	`bkw_`	`they upped the retention`
`18:00.14`	`Inv_arp`	`lol`
`18:00.15`	`bkw_`	`ulti-part Binaries`
`18:00.16`	`bkw_`	`99%+`
`18:00.16`	`bkw_`	`up to 50 days`
`18:00.16`	`bkw_`	`Single-part Binaries`
`18:00.16`	`bkw_`	`99%+`
`18:00.17`	`bkw_`	`up to 50 days`
`18:00.18`	`bkw_`	`Text/Discussion`
`18:00.21`	`bkw_`	`99%+`
`18:00.23`	`TomL`	`I didn't think so`
`18:00.27`	`bkw_`	`up to 420 days`
`18:00.35`	`Qwell`	`bkw_: Adelphia goes through giganews, and we get 90+ on most binary groups`
`18:00.44`	`Chuji`	`ManxPower : Yeah, you are right, hell we're trying to build a free pbx right?`
`18:00.48`	`roamer323`	`Chuji - $25/mo for an OC3 connection to news is not really that expensive :-) If you can use it.`
`18:00.50`	`Inv_arp`	`bkw_: what kinda storage those guys have... damn`
`18:00.51`	`bkw_`	`Qwell, I suspected as much`
`18:01.00`	`bkw_`	`Inv_arp, ALOT`
`18:01.06`	`Inv_arp`	`heh`
`18:01.22`	`TomL`	`there's one company that makes such a beast but they have a highly hacked linux kernel, and their drivers are not open source`
`18:01.48`	`file[laptop]`	`this landlord I e-mailed is nice`
`18:01.49`	`Inv_arp`	`roamer323: oc3 connection to news?... i would have pr0n seizers`
`18:02.01`	`file[laptop]`	`even offering to find people to sublet the apartment to for the months I'm not there`
`18:02.35`	`roamer323`	`Chuji - binary groups - everything and anything that you can digitized... just imagine ... no kidding :-)`
`18:02.52`	`file[laptop]`	`and they put a smiley face at the end, how cute`
`18:03.31`	`*** join/#asterisk _IQ_ (~iq@65-103-164-153.omah.qwest.net)`
`18:03.49`	`roamer323`	`software, hardware blueprint, ATA firmware,Encrypted Bank databases, etc... :-)`
`18:04.29`	`Inv_arp`	`Chuji: using *nix usenet doesnt scare me :)`
`18:04.30`	`*** join/#asterisk DaGrim (DaGrim@dagrim.user)`
`18:04.36`	`DaGrim`	`heya`
`18:05.02`	`Chuji`	`my connecting speed to giganews was 3090kbps`
`18:05.05`	`Chuji`	`I just tested it`
`18:05.18`	`Blackvel`	`who played around with AGI and GET DATA for playing a file + get DTMF info?`
`18:06.26`	`Blackvel`	`will asterisk only send the DTMF typed in info in one message or multiple messages (e.g if the number is ten-digit number)?`
`18:06.51`	`roamer323`	`file - where can I find a landlord like that?!`
`18:06.55`	`*** join/#asterisk carisso (~carisso@adsl-2-182-85.mia.bellsouth.net)`
`18:07.00`	`file[laptop]`	`roamer323: eh who knows`
`18:07.10`	`file[laptop]`	`it's not a bad price really`
`18:07.56`	`DaGrim`	`Hey.. Im trying to install festival.. and It compiled fine .. w/ speech tools, etc.. but does it need to actually install the files located in /install/festival/bin to elsewhere? Because it didnt.. any ideas?`
`18:10.05`	`roamer323`	`file - r u talking about rental east coast, or out west`
`18:10.23`	`file[laptop]`	`east`
`18:11.22`	`bkw_`	`file YOU MAC CONVERT!!!`
`18:11.25`	`bkw_`	`w00t`
`18:11.38`	`file[laptop]`	`yay Mac`
`18:11.59`	`Inv_arp`	`bah im a have to give up this BV account... damn guys only use alaw`
`18:12.12`	`bkw_`	`ulaw?`
`18:12.23`	`bkw_`	`actually`
`18:12.24`	`bkw_`	`no`
`18:12.30`	`bkw_`	`BV can use g729, g726 and ulaw`
`18:12.33`	`bkw_`	`and soon ilbc and speex`
`18:13.03`	`Inv_arp`	`hmm maybe i should hold out then`
`18:13.03`	`bkw_`	`you see that patch for rtp.c that hit CVS`
`18:13.06`	`bkw_`	`for both head and stable`
`18:13.16`	`bkw_`	`use the nyc proxy`
`18:13.27`	`Inv_arp`	`ahh nyc`
`18:13.28`	`bkw_`	`that rtp fix for g726 made it work for BV`
`18:14.50`	`PTG123`	`am i the only one that has to be tortured at their inlaws today?`
`18:14.58`	`file[laptop]`	`yes`
`18:14.59`	`Qwell`	`PTG123: For the last month`
`18:15.05`	`Qwell`	`oh, at...no`
`18:15.07`	`bkw_`	`i'm gay`
`18:15.09`	`bkw_`	`so I have no family`
`18:15.15`	`Chuji`	`All I had to do is get the flu`
`18:15.18`	`file[laptop]`	`bkw_: awww we're your family!`
`18:15.27`	`bkw_`	`they all disowned me.. so I have no family to anoy me`
`18:15.30`	`PTG123`	`bkw_: uh what does being gay have to do with family? :)`
`18:15.40`	`Inv_arp`	`PTG123: alot`
`18:15.47`	`DaGrim`	`yep`
`18:15.47`	`Qwell`	`bkw_: I wish my family would disown me...`
`18:15.48`	`PTG123`	`bkw_: ah 2 of my cousins are gay, didn't seem to make a difference to our family :)`
`18:15.49`	`bkw_`	`I got rid of ALL my family`
`18:16.02`	`bkw_`	`PTG123, you're not in oklahoma are you`
`18:16.04`	`PTG123`	`bkw_: except the gay ones seem to like being with the family even more :)`
`18:16.14`	`PTG123`	`bkw_: nope`
`18:16.45`	`bkw_`	`well here in oklahoma they think you can catch it`
`18:16.52`	`PTG123`	`bkw_: but really who cares if you like men women of fig neutons :)`
`18:16.56`	`PTG123`	`hahaha`
`18:17.00`	`Qwell`	`homosexuality is contageous`
`18:17.05`	`Inv_arp`	`bkw_: dude gotta make peace... b/c if something terrible hapens they will ave your back`
`18:17.09`	`PTG123`	`well thats why i am amazed their are so many gay people there :)`
`18:17.18`	`bkw_`	`Inv_arp, haha right`
`18:17.29`	`bkw_`	`Inv_arp, do you realize they got me fired from 3+ jobs`
`18:17.37`	`bkw_`	`took everything I owned away and sold or burned it`
`18:17.38`	`Inv_arp`	`bkw_: damn`
`18:18.06`	`bkw_`	`crazy eh?`
`18:18.07`	`PTG123`	`bkw_: go get a bunch of gay guys with torches and go to their house :)`
`18:18.19`	`bkw_`	`na I could never be as mean as they were`
`18:18.21`	`PTG123`	`bkw_: and you live in okalahoma still because?`
`18:18.22`	`Qwell`	`bkw_: Sounds like my family`
`18:18.25`	`Blackvel`	`ehm`
`18:18.27`	`ManxPower`	`In lavender sheets and hoods, of course.`
`18:18.33`	`bkw_`	`haha`
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`18:18.44`	`Blackvel`	`in what sip mode has x-lite to be to be able to respond to GET DATA DTMF commands? I always receive timeout?`
`18:18.48`	`Qwell`	`roses optional`
`18:18.53`	`bkw_`	`spandsp works with tiff 3.7.2`
`18:18.56`	`bkw_`	`just an FYI`
`18:19.55`	`ManxPower`	`Blackvel: RFC2833 on both Asterisk and the phone.`
`18:20.10`	`PTG123`	`bkw_: so why do you live there? :) you like living in a place where you have a disease?`
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`18:20.23`	`file[laptop]`	`bkw_ is a great guy in real life though!`
`18:20.32`	`Qwell`	`file[laptop]: but not online?`
`18:20.36`	`file[laptop]`	`that guy, that guy right there!`
`18:20.38`	`hardwire`	`IRL!`
`18:20.40`	`PTG123`	`file[laptop]: did you catch it? :)`
`18:20.49`	`Chuji`	`ok, I've had enough of Maria schiavo. I don't want to sound incensitive, but gawd give it a rest`
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`18:20.59`	`file[laptop]`	`PTG123: haha`
`18:21.17`	`Qwell`	`Chuji: tshirthell.com - forget Terry Shaivo, stop feeding Kirstie Alley`
`18:21.50`	`Chuji`	`beautiful`
`18:21.55`	`PTG123`	`Kirstie Alley use to be hot, such a shame`
`18:22.31`	`denon`	`who are you kiddin, she was always a dog`
`18:22.32`	`Chuji`	`I saw an interview with her recently, and she said she's become promiscuous`
`18:22.36`	`Chuji`	`after she got fat`
`18:22.39`	`Chuji`	`go figure`
`18:22.53`	`Chuji`	`cuz nobody wants her now`
`18:22.55`	`Chuji`	`heh`
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`18:24.59`	`nesys`	`with nat over cisco router (1 public ip for server and lan, nat extendable) I've to translate the port 5060 and 10k-20k by default ... It's possible to configure rtp.conf to use 10000-10020? I could use for rtp 20 ports instead of 10k?`
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`18:25.34`	`NightHawke`	`morning all`
`18:25.44`	`niZon`	`nesys: yes`
`18:26.05`	`nesys`	`it's reasonable?`
`18:26.12`	`niZon`	`I think so`
`18:26.26`	`niZon`	`you'll be more limited in the number of calls you can handle`
`18:26.38`	`niZon`	`I'd suggest using IAX if you can`
`18:26.59`	`myridom`	`Hi all, Does anyone know if Asterisk supports sidecars for the operator station? I really love the system so far, but this is a sticking point for our office and i keep getting conflicting answers from different vendors`
`18:27.18`	`niZon`	`myridom: for what phone?`
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`18:27.31`	`fugitivo`	`hi`
`18:27.35`	`niZon`	`I know chan_sccp2 has limited support for the cisco 7914`
`18:27.35`	`myridom`	`any phone, will buy to fill the need`
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`18:27.42`	`nesys`	`niZon I need SIP :(`
`18:28.03`	`niZon`	`nesys: well what you propose should work`
`18:28.10`	`Chuji`	`~google "asterisk busy lamp field"`
`18:28.13`	`niZon`	`nesys: It's recomended actually`
`18:28.14`	`nesys`	`how many rtp channels for a call?`
`18:28.17`	`nesys`	`normally ...`
`18:28.22`	`FuriousGeorge`	`my sound in linux works fine, but for some reason when i boot asterisk it says: Mar 27 03:00:06 WARNING[10636]: chan_oss.c:239 sound_thread: Read error on sound device: Resource temporarily unavailable`
`18:28.31`	`niZon`	`nesys: I think just one, I'm not sure`
`18:28.37`	`NightHawke`	`what is needed to integrate the PBX into a two line analog POTS?`
`18:28.42`	`FuriousGeorge`	`even when im not in x or anything, or right after i restart my computer`
`18:28.50`	`nesys`	`niZon thank you very much ... I'll try`
`18:29.06`	`niZon`	`nesys: np`
`18:29.21`	`niZon`	`NightHawke: you could use some digium hardware`
`18:29.37`	`fugitivo`	`FuriousGeorge: check if asterisk is using OSS or ALSA`
`18:30.10`	`NightHawke`	`niZon, so the digium components are required, not a option.. We were trying to use old analog modems`
`18:30.46`	`niZon`	`NightHawke: you can use PCI based modems, but only a few select models work`
`18:31.20`	`NightHawke`	`nods and benchmark externals? we tried a USR 56K brick`
`18:31.30`	`FuriousGeorge`	`fugitivo, can you point me to where i would verify that, b/c i set up my system for support for both OSS and alsa`
`18:31.38`	`NightHawke`	`the OS spotted it, but the PBX did not`
`18:31.58`	`niZon`	`NightHawke: I don't think any external modems work`
`18:32.11`	`fugitivo`	`FuriousGeorge: /etc/asterisk/modules.conf, check for the noload directive`
`18:32.26`	`NightHawke`	`is there a listing of analogs that are compatable with the PBX?`
`18:32.46`	`niZon`	`~google "asterisk hardware"`
`18:32.59`	`niZon`	`NightHawke: first link`
`18:33.02`	`fugitivo`	`FuriousGeorge: asterisk uses oss by default, if you use alsa, comment noload => chan_alsa.so and leave uncommented noload => chan_oss.so`
`18:33.14`	`NightHawke`	`smart bot niZon`
`18:33.24`	`niZon`	`NightHawke: it is :P`
`18:33.40`	`NightHawke`	`^.^ we got the system 75% complete, just need to rework the tree to suit our ISP's needs`
`18:34.29`	`niZon`	`I need to build my own system that will actually be used on a regular basis`
`18:34.42`	`NightHawke`	`how does the OS work with UDMA channel hard drives?`
`18:34.50`	`NightHawke`	`er does it work well?`
`18:35.27`	`NightHawke`	`we are running a older maxtor on the older mode`
`18:36.33`	`FuriousGeorge`	`fugitivo, thanks. is there any quick way to test the sound. perhaps try to hear a dialtone from the sip provider i setup in sip.conf`
`18:36.43`	`niZon`	`NightHawke: if you can install linux on it then it should work :P`
`18:36.47`	`fugitivo`	`FuriousGeorge: extension 600, echo test`
`18:36.58`	`[hC]`	`Hey.. I want your guys' opinion.. Most examples ive seen so far have a dial macro for incoming calls, and a dial macro for outgoing calls, im tossing around the idea of having one big dial macro that can sort it out. Or at least ONE in and one out, rather than one in, and one outbound macro PER peer like i see all the time..`
`18:37.04`	`NightHawke`	`heh, just a simple matter of unleashing the setting in the BIOS.. thanks`
`18:37.36`	`niZon`	`[hC]: You could use an AGI script`
`18:37.48`	`NightHawke`	`i'm the nut that came up with the idea of using this softPBX to replace a lousy answering system thats currently in place, but knows little about *NIX`
`18:38.31`	`FuriousGeorge`	`fugitivo, says no such command extension, did you mean for me to put an actual extension in there, like to one of my local clients, b/c i havent really set that up yet`
`18:38.35`	`[hC]`	`niZon: I dont think i need an AGI script to do anything, this is more about how to construct the dial plan and the macros. I can do it either way with the builtins, im just curious if anyone else has gone down this path, or if its a bad idea`
`18:38.41`	`*** part/#asterisk myridom (~myridom@adsl-068-209-192-036.sip.pfn.bellsouth.net)`
`18:38.41`	`NightHawke`	`most likely y'all wont see the last of me ^.^`
`18:38.50`	`[hC]`	`Im really just trying to avoid duplicating stuff over and over in extensions.conf`
`18:38.56`	`niZon`	`NightHawke: well good luck with everything`
`18:39.29`	`fugitivo`	`FuriousGeorge: hmm, try voicemail or some default ext.`
`18:39.41`	`NightHawke`	`so far we've played with the system using softtel phones on the computers, love the layout and the depth of the heirarchy that the PBX offers`
`18:39.53`	`niZon`	`[hC]: You can get away with a single dial command for a few things`
`18:40.04`	`NightHawke`	`just need to get a voice talent to whip up some wavs for us ^.^`
`18:40.26`	`FuriousGeorge`	`fugitivo: im really new to this. do you mean like "extension voicemail echo test"`
`18:40.43`	`johngalt`	`the voice is cheap enough`
`18:41.03`	`NightHawke`	`heheh john, was thinking of the man that does NFLfilms ^.^`
`18:41.22`	`niZon`	`lol`
`18:41.23`	`NightHawke`	`better yet, the guy that does movie trailers`
`18:41.30`	`johngalt`	`well depending on the application I guess`
`18:41.32`	`[hC]`	`I think so far its not going to make sense to have the same for in and out, because i do alot of processing differently based on which direction its going`
`18:41.33`	`NightHawke`	`i want those phones to rattle with bass`
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`18:41.53`	`niZon`	`NightHawke: get some headsets with bass shakerss`
`18:41.54`	`niZon`	`-s`
`18:42.13`	`NightHawke`	`for the customer i mean niZon ^.^ I own a set of zalman 5.1s`
`18:42.32`	`fugitivo`	`FuriousGeorge: try to call ext. 600 from a phone or softphone`
`18:42.46`	`niZon`	`NightHawke: nice, how do they sound?`
`18:43.22`	`NightHawke`	`decent, lacking in the bass range tho.. probably the 5.1 setup i got on this board probably being the culprit`
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`18:43.56`	`NightHawke`	`i need to rebuild my old phillips 5.1 card, the plug on it is getting ugly, and i can get parts for it`
`18:44.03`	`niZon`	`ah`
`18:44.12`	`niZon`	`I have an audigy 2 zs`
`18:44.18`	`NightHawke`	`movies are nice`
`18:44.42`	`niZon`	`cool`
`18:45.29`	`NightHawke`	`ever seen the phillips cards they sell? instead of the 3.5mm plugs, they used some kind of plug`
`18:46.00`	`niZon`	`never seen one`
`18:46.15`	`NightHawke`	`that branches out to a dogbone cord that has the actual plugs... it's that plug on the board that is getting bad.. i found some parts on mouser that i believe will do the trick`
`18:46.23`	`NightHawke`	`looks like a souped up PS2 port`
`18:47.11`	`niZon`	`ah, my video card has something like that`
`18:47.26`	`[hC]`	`Your video card has an S-VIdeo plug`
`18:47.44`	`NightHawke`	`thats for svideo, easy to replace, this one i had to really dig for`
`18:48.00`	`[hC]`	`creative labs uses the plug youre talking about to connect their breakout box to the subwoofer`
`18:48.04`	`niZon`	`[hC]: It's not svideo`
`18:48.24`	`[hC]`	`niZon: Ah, then i have one on mine that looks like Svideo too, its an ATI all in wonder breakout box`
`18:48.25`	`NightHawke`	`i aint touching blasters, only to put them in a shooting gallery`
`18:48.49`	`niZon`	`ah`
`18:49.08`	`niZon`	`NightHawke: had trouble with them?`
`18:49.11`	`NightHawke`	`had a blaster value before i went to the phillips card, i never looked back`
`18:49.19`	`FuriousGeorge`	`can the wiring b/w the fxo and the analog phones cant be daisy chained, right?`
`18:49.21`	`Shido`	`heh`
`18:49.27`	`NightHawke`	`lousy sound, it really never did get unleashed`
`18:49.28`	`Shido`	`soundmax, baby`
`18:49.36`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i mean: it cant be DC, right?`
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`18:50.02`	`NightHawke`	`i did find 3rd party drivers for the blaster, tried it out on a test rig... that was worth the labor`
`18:50.42`	`NightHawke`	`just like the omega drivers for the vid cards, these drivers really unleashed the blaster`
`18:50.59`	`NightHawke`	`but the blaster's 5.1.. aint going in my system :p`
`18:51.09`	`NightHawke`	`erf aint 5.1 that is`
`18:51.36`	`niZon`	`my audigy is pretty good, the newest drivers suck, I just rolled back to the old ones`
`18:51.58`	`NightHawke`	`niZon want me to dig up the name on those 3rd party drivers.. you'll appreciate the trip`
`18:52.17`	`niZon`	`sure`
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`18:52.25`	`NightHawke`	`oki`
`18:52.57`	`ctooley`	`When I drop a call file for a zap channel it is "answered" immediately and asterisk jumps straight to the context in the call file, even before the phone being called rings.`
`18:53.23`	`bkw_`	`flip it around`
`18:54.01`	`ctooley`	`bkw_, you talking to me?`
`18:55.00`	`bkw_`	`ya`
`18:55.01`	`bkw_`	`you`
`18:55.09`	`ctooley`	`flip what around?`
`18:55.35`	`NightHawke`	`grrrr! i'll have to get the name of the drivers for you here in a while niZon`
`18:55.47`	`ctooley`	`I'm using the same call file I use for my IAX2 channels and it works fine, I'm only having a problem on Zap channels`
`18:55.49`	`bkw_`	`a call file goes two ways`
`18:55.51`	`NightHawke`	`aint got them in front of me`
`18:55.54`	`NightHawke`	`bbl`
`18:55.54`	`bkw_`	`flip it around`
`18:57.18`	`FuriousGeorge`	`if i got a broadvoice acct and ran a cat 3 from my fxo to a phone jack in the wall (assuming i disconnect pots line) will all the phones in my house get a dialtone`
`18:57.23`	`FuriousGeorge`	`also assuming`
`18:57.28`	`FuriousGeorge`	`* is set up right`
`18:57.35`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: Theoretically, yes, but...`
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`18:57.43`	`Qwell`	`it depends on the "RAD(?)" value`
`18:57.58`	`Qwell`	`many FXS ports are gonna be rated for one phone`
`18:58.03`	`FuriousGeorge`	`oh its gonna be quite rad j/k`
`18:58.04`	`[hC]`	`Ive been wondering this too`
`18:58.11`	`Qwell`	`I think it was rad...`
`18:58.12`	`Qwell`	`~rad`
`18:58.36`	`Qwell`	`lemme grep my logs`
`18:58.37`	`[hC]`	`so is it the output power from the device you put into the jack?`
`18:58.47`	`Qwell`	`think so`
`18:58.51`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i dont understand why many fxs ports are needed. i thought fxs were for analog connections b/w u and station`
`18:59.37`	`[hC]`	`Maybe its just me, but it took me about 5 minutes to figure out "b/w" meant between. heh. I was like black and white? Bandwidth? wtf..`
`19:00.54`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i always speak w/ those b/c w/o them, well, wtf`
`19:01.08`	`[hC]`	`Yikes!`
`19:01.13`	`[hC]`	`You must type pretty slow? :)`
`19:01.32`	`FuriousGeorge`	`smoking w/ other hand`
`19:01.56`	`Qwell`	`oh, its REN`
`19:01.57`	`Qwell`	`~ren`
`19:02.09`	`[hC]`	`Its the stimpy factor`
`19:02.09`	`[hC]`	`:)`
`19:02.23`	`Qwell`	`2005-03-21 13:05:20 <bjohnson> Qwell: number of phones that can be plugged into one fxs depends on it's REN and whether the phones are powered or are pulling power from the line. Most fxs manufacturers suggest one phone per fxs`
`19:02.54`	`Qwell`	`he went on to say that chances are, if you're using cordless phones, you can use more`
`19:02.57`	`FuriousGeorge`	`im having trouble comprehending why having multiple analog phones daisy chained of one fxo would require many fxs. what would i connect them to? the phones? doesnt that defeat the purpose`
`19:03.02`	`[hC]`	`If its a matter of pulling power, you could probably add an external power source`
`19:03.07`	`Qwell`	`"ring equivalency number .. has to do with how many phones powered from the line can be used on it .. I think phones that use their own power supply do not draw poser from the line"`
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`19:03.36`	`[hC]`	`Well, you realize that phones detect whether the phone is ringing or not, etc, by how much power is coming down the line`
`19:03.54`	`[hC]`	`I am just using random numbers here, but if the line was at 3v idle, it might jump to 20v when ringing`
`19:03.55`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ok i think im getting it now`
`19:04.10`	`Qwell`	`ring is like 90vdc, or something I think`
`19:04.13`	`[hC]`	`so if you add too many devices, you cut your power in half each time (i believe)`
`19:04.27`	`Qwell`	`[hC]: sounds about right`
`19:04.42`	`[hC]`	`so at a certain number, if the FXS is only putting out a certain amount of power out, your phones will just saturate it and not be able to detect things like ringing`
`19:04.59`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but another thing thats confusing me is why are we taslking abt fxs. i thought those were strictly to connect ma bell to *. if im using an sip proviser....`
`19:05.01`	`[hC]`	`now, disclaimer, this is just a theory.`
`19:05.02`	`[hC]`	`heh`
`19:05.07`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: Thats an FXO`
`19:05.13`	`Qwell`	`an FXS is for connecting an analog phone`
`19:05.24`	`FuriousGeorge`	`so i had em crossed up`
`19:06.01`	`[hC]`	`I think you can also use an FXO card (ie, Intel PCI modem) and connect a regular analog phone and use it as an extension, instead of connecting to a telco?`
`19:06.07`	`Qwell`	`no`
`19:06.17`	`Qwell`	`FXS is for a phone, FXO is for a line`
`19:06.19`	`[hC]`	`Ah, k. didnt realize`
`19:06.20`	`Qwell`	`they aren't interchangable`
`19:06.27`	`[hC]`	`are there cheap FXS devices? like PCI modems?`
`19:06.35`	`[hC]`	`Or is that only available for FXO's`
`19:06.36`	`Qwell`	`not that I know of`
`19:06.42`	`[hC]`	`Gotcha`
`19:06.53`	`Qwell`	`I wouldn't use the FXO clone for anything I plan on needing ever`
`19:07.09`	`ManxPower`	`FXS ports are somewhat more complex than FXO ports.`
`19:07.40`	`ManxPower`	`An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. An FXO port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage.`
`19:07.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`so what ur saying is the FXSs send a certain amount of voltage for ringing and too many phones will take up to much of that voltage`
`19:08.31`	`[hC]`	`ManxPower: I presume you meant FXS the second time.`
`19:08.40`	`[hC]`	`FuriousGeorge: I think so, yes.`
`19:08.41`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge: Yes. HOWEVER, that is seldom an issue these days. Modern phones take MUCH less voltage from the line than old phones.`
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`19:08.54`	`ManxPower`	`CORRECTIONL An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage.`
`19:09.11`	`[hC]`	`so it might only be a problem if you attempt to connect 25 or 35 phones, heh`
`19:09.24`	`[hC]`	`If you want to connect 3 or 4, you're probably okay`
`19:09.43`	`FuriousGeorge`	`my knowledge of electronics is even weaker than my knowlesdge of * thus far. ahving said that, isnt it relatively easy to amplify that kind of thing. im asking b/c i want to try a simple set up w/ my roomates spending as little cash as possible, before trying it in any sort of commercial enviornment`
`19:10.13`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: For the record, REN value or not, I'm gonna rewire mine at the wall`
`19:10.33`	`FuriousGeorge`	`qwell: to all be home runs, right?`
`19:10.43`	`SPoon_TSX`	`Hi there, May I know why when I call a PSTN number via the Zap over my software phone, during the ring if I hung up, the Zap channel still keep on ringing but not hang up immediately?`
`19:10.44`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: I only have two jacks, heh`
`19:10.56`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and right now, one runs off the other`
`19:11.27`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: They come in from the box outside, to my dining room, then to the main bedroom from there`
`19:11.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and as of right now both phones get a dialtone and ring`
`19:11.50`	`Qwell`	`yeah`
`19:11.56`	`FuriousGeorge`	`you will have to get another fxs wont you`
`19:12.02`	`Qwell`	`probably not`
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`19:12.34`	`guvnor`	`Good evening`
`19:12.35`	`FuriousGeorge`	`then you will still be daisy chaining them, right, just instead of at the jack you split is somewhere physicallhy closer to the fxs`
`19:12.42`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: basically`
`19:12.56`	`FuriousGeorge`	`just checking my understanding of what we are talking about`
`19:13.12`	`nesys`	`Hi folks ... I've problem with SIP ...`
`19:13.23`	`guvnor`	`newbie at asterisk.. can i post my question here?`
`19:13.45`	`nesys`	`my sip.conf: http://www.pastebin.com/263416`
`19:13.47`	`FuriousGeorge`	`one more thing, if you did just get a second fxs, since u r going through the trouble anyway, why not get another fxs then you can have extensions`
`19:13.51`	`ManxPower`	`guvnor: Only after you look around the docs and do a mailing list search`
`19:13.52`	`FuriousGeorge`	`guvnor: i do ;)`
`19:13.52`	`ManxPower`	`!docs`
`19:13.54`	`ManxPower`	`~docs`
`19:13.55`	`jbot`	`Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org`
`19:13.56`	`ManxPower`	`~mailinglist`
`19:13.57`	`jbot`	`extra, extra, read all about it, mailinglist is Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/`
`19:14.01`	`nesys`	`my extension.conf: http://www.pastebin.com/263413`
`19:14.04`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: because I'm lazy`
`19:14.05`	`Qwell`	`and cheap`
`19:14.18`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell: not cheap and easy>`
`19:14.21`	`ManxPower`	`?`
`19:14.22`	`FuriousGeorge`	`fair enough`
`19:14.22`	`Qwell`	`easy too`
`19:14.25`	`nesys`	`my debug sip: http://www.pastebin.com/263412`
`19:14.50`	`fugitivo`	`is possible to use one zaptel card for analogic line and another card for a extension or that doesn't work?`
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`19:14.58`	`guvnor`	`ok i'll do some speed reading`
`19:15.08`	`Qwell`	`fugitivo: They are different. Scroll up for an explanation from ManxPower`
`19:15.09`	`nesys`	`I'm trying to call 5302313 from 5302325 (x-lite directly authenticated, without pass trhough asterisk)`
`19:15.35`	`FuriousGeorge`	`guvnor: take it from me, you must do a lot. comming here is like stealing info till someone tells you to go back and read`
`19:15.38`	`nesys`	`call failed: 404 Not Found`
`19:16.05`	`fugitivo`	`Qwell: i see it, thank you`
`19:16.08`	`ManxPower`	`An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage.`
`19:16.21`	`Qwell`	`~fxofxs`
`19:16.28`	`Qwell`	`ManxPower: should add that one`
`19:16.49`	`nesys`	`there's someone that could help me? :)`
`19:17.05`	`fugitivo`	`then for extensions i need fxs cards?`
`19:17.43`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell: jbot now knows ~fxofxs and ~fxsfxo`
`19:17.53`	`Qwell`	`any difference? heh`
`19:17.58`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell: no.`
`19:18.12`	`Qwell`	`~fxofxs`
`19:18.13`	`jbot`	`it has been said that fxofxs is An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage.`
`19:18.14`	`nesys`	`I think the problem is: 'Found no matching peer or user for '212.97.59.76:5061''`
`19:18.17`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell: but I'll NEVER remember what order I put them in so I put in both.`
`19:18.20`	`Qwell`	`nice`
`19:18.23`	`Qwell`	`ManxPower: yeah`
`19:19.48`	`ManxPower`	`nestAr: that would do it.`
`19:20.24`	`fugitivo`	`is any cheap fxs card? like, maybe, 10 dollars?`
`19:20.30`	`ManxPower`	`fugitivo: no.`
`19:20.33`	`Qwell`	`fugitivo: good luck`
`19:20.37`	`fugitivo`	`:)`
`19:20.47`	`fugitivo`	`how much is the cheapest?`
`19:21.19`	`Qwell`	`I paid like $125, and I'm quite happy with my purchase.`
`19:21.29`	`fugitivo`	`how many ports?`
`19:21.33`	`Qwell`	`1`
`19:21.36`	`fugitivo`	`mmm`
`19:23.27`	`ManxPower`	`additional ports are a lot less expensive`
`19:23.44`	`Qwell`	`about $75 or so, after the initial purchase`
`19:23.56`	`fugitivo`	`i need something cheaper`
`19:26.00`	`FuriousGeorge`	`on page 34 of the asterisk handbook on asteriskdocs.org, the guy defines a context incomming. nowhere in any other .conf file did i see him reference that [incomming]. does * know by default what to do with that`
`19:26.22`	`Blackvel`	`is there any java expert around? I have a huge problem about quickserver and implementing a new multithreaded class. your help would be MUCH appreciated`
`19:26.38`	`bjohnson`	`fugitivo: the linksys-pap2-na is 2 fxs ports for about $60`
`19:27.04`	`fugitivo`	`bjohnson: now we're talking :)`
`19:27.06`	`bjohnson`	`it is also supposed to be similar quality as the Sipura SPA 2000 .. which is what you want if not the linksys`
`19:27.24`	`bjohnson`	`fugitivo: you're not going to beat $30 per port`
`19:27.41`	`bjohnson`	`if you do (even for fxo) .. you're going to regret it`
`19:28.01`	`FuriousGeorge`	`says: Whawen a call is sent to this [incomming] context, it is first sent to the s extension. where does the call get set to that context`
`19:28.14`	`Qwell`	`FuriousGeorge: sip.conf, iax.conf, zaptel.conf`
`19:28.34`	`Qwell`	`You would have a "context=incoming" line`
`19:28.35`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but in the example he sut up earlier, he used [defauklt] in all his freaking examples`
`19:28.38`	`FuriousGeorge`	`for thjose files`
`19:31.24`	`FuriousGeorge`	`just before he says "were gonna create a functional dial plan" but its not functional b/ in sip,iax,etc.conf he put everything in the default context`
`19:31.26`	`fugitivo`	`bjohnson: is that some kind of "adapter"?`
`19:32.01`	`fugitivo`	`bjohnson: regular phone to voip?`
`19:34.39`	`bjohnson`	`yes`
`19:34.45`	`bjohnson`	`an fxs`
`19:34.48`	`bjohnson`	`~fxs`
`19:34.49`	`jbot`	`fxs is probably foreign exchange system - or the type of port you need to connect a analog device (phone, fax machine) to a pbx`
`19:36.34`	`bjohnson`	`you'll have to be careful to get one marked -NA .. otherwise you won't be able to use it`
`19:36.43`	`bjohnson`	`(if you get a linksys)`
`19:37.18`	`fugitivo`	`what is that?`
`19:37.21`	`fugitivo`	`-NA`
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`19:37.40`	`bjohnson`	`the one you can use`
`19:37.49`	`fugitivo`	`ok`
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`19:38.26`	`bjohnson`	`Nasa Approved`
`19:41.21`	`ManxPower`	`~fxsfxo`
`19:41.23`	`jbot`	`extra, extra, read all about it, fxsfxo is An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage.`
`19:41.26`	`ManxPower`	`bjohnson: remember that one`
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`19:55.15`	`[hC]`	`Im looking for a better way of doing IAX2 gateway failover, without having a macro do it. Is there a way to specify failover hosts in iax.conf or something?`
`19:55.50`	`bjohnson`	`no`
`19:56.10`	`bjohnson`	`IMO the superdial macro is the best way`
`19:56.26`	`bjohnson`	`(of the methods currently available)`
`19:56.27`	`_queuetue`	`Can someone please check the iax configs at http://paste.lisp.org/display/6960 and explain to me why my south server can reach my north server fine, but my north server claims my south server is unreachable? Both are behind NAT, but both router/firewalls have the IAX port (4569) forwarded to the internal server...`
`19:57.09`	`[hC]`	`bjohnson: the superdial on the wiki? I dont see any failover functionality in it`
`19:57.22`	`bjohnson`	`look at the examples`
`19:57.29`	`bjohnson`	`in the commented section of the macro`
`19:57.34`	`[hC]`	`K`
`19:58.12`	`bjohnson`	`if it fails, it goes to the next prioirity in the context that called it .. so mutiple superdial calls can be sequential`
`19:58.33`	`fugitivo`	`if I transfer a call to another ext. then I want to recover the call from my ext. is any way to do that?`
`19:59.37`	`_queuetue`	`Are servers supposed to link via IAX back and forth to each pother, or is one supposed to link to the other, and that's it?`
`20:00.08`	`_queuetue`	`It's just odd that S can reach N but N cannot reach S...`
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`20:09.36`	`queuetue`	`What does it imply to you all if i set up a nc -u bridge on the iax port from south to north, and the data gets passed fine, but if I set up a nc on the iax port between south and north, the trffic gets lost... Does this mean one of the other ISP is blocking the packets?`
`20:09.48`	`roamer323`	`queuetue - standard TCP/IP ... the two paths can be completely different`
`20:10.32`	`queuetue`	`Well, IP - it's UDP, not TCP...`
`20:10.39`	`[hC]`	`Is there any good reason to use call groups ( i see it used alot in superdials ) aside from limiting simultaneous calls?`
`20:10.54`	`queuetue`	`roamer323, And I'm not sure what your statement was trying to tell me. :)`
`20:11.36`	`roamer323`	`roamer323 -- that your exact problem happens all the time to many people - because N can connect to S says absolutely nothing about the ability of S to N`
`20:13.14`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i wa able to connect asterisk to my sip provider (sipphone.com) last week. i was able to connect my clients (x-lite) on my local lan to asterisk a few days later. for the last three days im trying to make an outbound call. in all the docs i see people use a context [outgoing] to define an outbound call. where in sip.conf to i set up this context? at the top where i specify the ports for my provider? in the middle where i specify`
`20:13.14`	`FuriousGeorge`	`proxy, or at the bottom where i specify my clients`
`20:13.15`	`queuetue`	`Ok, good point. Does anyone else have any idea what my test is showing, from a practical standpoint?`
`20:13.41`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i cant find a simple example for outbound calling anywhere. all the docs assume you already have it set up`
`20:15.08`	`FuriousGeorge`	`is the [outgoing] context a constant to asterisk? do i not need to specify it anywhere but in extensions.conf?`
`20:15.50`	`[hC]`	`Hmm. looking at this, it seems like only Zap channels can be grouped, you cant "group" iax2 channels?`
`20:15.57`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i guess what i want to know is, where am i suipposed to define these damned contexts so that any phone can call any number. how compelx can that be`
`20:16.18`	`pdmm`	`[general]`
`20:16.19`	`pdmm`	`context=from-sip`
`20:16.21`	`pdmm`	`thats mine`
`20:16.35`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but im talking about outgoing`
`20:16.44`	`FuriousGeorge`	`not from isp, but from me to isp`
`20:16.45`	`pdmm`	`that works for my outgoing`
`20:16.52`	`pdmm`	`then`
`20:17.07`	`[hC]`	`in your sip.conf you specify a context= for either general or your user`
`20:17.10`	`pdmm`	`[from-sip]`
`20:17.18`	`[hC]`	`that points to the context that points to, or includes your dial plan for calling out`
`20:17.20`	`pdmm`	`exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,1,SetCIDNum(8668072935)`
`20:17.20`	`pdmm`	`;exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,2,SetCIDName(IfiniRealm)`
`20:17.20`	`pdmm`	`exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,2,Dial(IAX2/infinirealm@sixTel/${EXTEN})`
`20:17.20`	`pdmm`	`exten => _011.,1,Dial(IAX2/infinirealm@sixTel/${EXTEN})`
`20:17.26`	`pdmm`	`thats in the extensions.conf`
`20:18.23`	`pdmm`	`and all my sip clients can call anywhere`
`20:20.04`	`pdmm`	`lets see your config files`
`20:20.24`	`FuriousGeorge`	`<pdmm> exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,2,Dial(IAX2/infinirealm@sixTel/${EXTEN}) <---- where did you define iax2/infinirealm`
`20:20.37`	`FuriousGeorge`	`can i /msg u with them`
`20:21.04`	`pdmm`	`go ahead`
`20:21.13`	`pdmm`	`i use an iax line`
`20:21.17`	`pdmm`	`if your using SIP`
`20:21.22`	`pdmm`	`it'll be different`
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`20:28.14`	`nesys`	`uff ... nat and sip ... damn`
`20:29.52`	`nesys`	`LAN: x-lite works perfectly with external public free sip server ... through nat`
`20:30.11`	`nesys`	`asterisk not at all ...`
`20:30.21`	`nesys`	`(as SIP UA)`
`20:31.43`	`nesys`	`there's a solution?`
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`20:38.44`	`ctooley`	`bkw_, you said to flip the call in my call file earlier. I don't know what you meant by that`
`20:39.46`	`ctooley`	`The problem with my call file seems like the Zap channel is being "answered" just because it gets picked up.`
`20:39.59`	`ctooley`	`on the local side, not the remote side`
`20:40.23`	`fugitivo`	`i have the same issue`
`20:40.41`	`fugitivo`	`if i pick up the phone, asterisk wants to answer a call`
`20:41.01`	`ctooley`	`I think it's related to the AGI that gets fired off because of this call file getting really confused`
`20:45.22`	`nesys`	`there's someone that could help me with sip and nat?`
`20:51.55`	`nesys`	`question: asterisk needs a public ip as bindaddr?`
`20:52.06`	`nesys`	`to work propertly with sip`
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`20:53.45`	`fugitivo`	`what ports should I open in my firewall for sip? UDP 5060 to ?`
`20:54.30`	`mogorman`	`5060`
`20:54.37`	`mogorman`	`and 10,000-20,000`
`20:56.40`	`fugitivo`	`thanks`
`20:57.47`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`nesys: yes, but it only needs if it's behind NAT and it needs to talk to things outside the NAT (i.e. on the internet)`
`20:58.52`	`nesys`	`RaymAn-Bx I would use * as SIP UA for n.3 external sip accounts`
`20:59.07`	`nesys`	`to talk on the internet ...`
`20:59.14`	`nesys`	`I'm behind NAT :( cisco router`
`20:59.35`	`nesys`	`with x-lite I could register correctly ... with SIP UA on * not`
`20:59.54`	`nesys`	`I couldn't receive or make a call`
`21:00.01`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`og`
`21:00.02`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`oh`
`21:00.04`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`sorry`
`21:00.23`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`you said bindaddr :) I was reading it was externalip for some reason...but that's prolly what you need (as well as localnet)`
`21:00.48`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`X-lite has a lot of things to detect and work around NAT setups`
`21:01.05`	`nesys`	`what externalip and localnet do?`
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`21:01.41`	`Shido`	`bleh`
`21:01.44`	`nesys`	`in this case ...`
`21:01.45`	`Shido`	`why are you messin with theat`
`21:01.46`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`it tells * which ip servers have to contact the * server on...i.e. public ip as opposed to local...`
`21:01.47`	`Shido`	`are you nat'd`
`21:01.49`	`andy_newton`	`evening`
`21:02.01`	`Shido`	`you dont need to set localnet or or anything like that unless you've got a weird nat setup`
`21:02.11`	`Shido`	`explain here you are as I missed it above`
`21:02.22`	`Shido`	`are you on the same net as your * box?`
`21:02.38`	`nesys`	`yep`
`21:02.49`	`Shido`	`errr K`
`21:02.54`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`Shido: I've seen plenty of people with problems when they didn't set localnet as well :) After setting it * magically sent the right ip to external hosts`
`21:02.55`	`Shido`	`so set a bindport`
`21:02.56`	`Shido`	`bindaddr`
`21:02.58`	`Shido`	`and thats it`
`21:03.07`	`nesys`	`I've already done it`
`21:03.07`	`Shido`	`in your user and peer for your xlite put nat=yes`
`21:03.13`	`Shido`	`and reload chan_sip.so`
`21:03.18`	`Shido`	`and you're rocking and a rolling`
`21:03.23`	`andy_newton`	`Have manage to get my * box working, have a couple of issues i cant fix. Anybody have 5 mins to answer a couple of Q's?`
`21:03.25`	`nesys`	`moment`
`21:03.28`	`Shido`	`if thats not working you screwed something up in the xlite config`
`21:03.33`	`bkw_`	`you might have to restart if you toggle that`
`21:03.38`	`Shido`	`which I can run you through real quick`
`21:03.42`	`bkw_`	`depending on version of asterisk you're running`
`21:03.52`	`Shido`	`andy_newton - whats up?`
`21:03.54`	`Shido`	`5 minutes`
`21:03.58`	`Shido`	`and Im gonig back to sleep`
`21:04.08`	`Shido`	`too much garlic in the spasgetti`
`21:04.22`	`Shido`	`fightin the sleepy monster`
`21:04.36`	`nesys`	`Shido I use x-lite only for debug ... I've seen that x-lite directly authenticated and registered on external SIP server works ... SIP UA on * doesn't work`
`21:04.50`	`Shido`	`uhhh..`
`21:04.57`	`nesys`	`x-lite and * are on the same LAN ... behind nat`
`21:05.05`	`Shido`	`its improved and u can get it to work if you smack it into submission`
`21:05.05`	`andy_newton`	`I have * connected to my sipgate.co.uk account, with Xlite connecting to my * box from my local PC. Calls out work ok, calls into the * box and onto my Xlite ring ok, but die on pickuo`
`21:05.13`	`nesys`	`my extensions.conf= http://www.pastebin.com/263413`
`21:05.29`	`Shido`	`kewl something to work wiff, thanks nestAr`
`21:05.30`	`Shido`	`err`
`21:05.31`	`Shido`	`nesys`
`21:05.33`	`nesys`	`my sip.conf= http://www.pastebin.com/263416`
`21:06.36`	`Shido`	`ahhhhhhhh`
`21:06.37`	`Shido`	`friends`
`21:06.41`	`Shido`	`ok Im going back to sleep`
`21:07.06`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`nesys: what exactly doesn't work? Calls don't arrive? No sound in calls? Both?`
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`21:07.49`	`bkw_`	`anyone looking for static tiff2pdf and tiff2ps binaries http://asterisk.bkw.org/tiff.tar.gz`
`21:08.02`	`nesys`	`RaYmAn 404 not found (on x-lite)`
`21:08.19`	`Shido`	`yoink... (thanks)`
`21:08.37`	`Shido`	`do a sip debug`
`21:08.40`	`Shido`	`it will say`
`21:08.45`	`Shido`	`looking for ........ in context ..........`
`21:08.53`	`Shido`	`and it will show you where you skrewed up`
`21:10.29`	`Shido`	`sleepy time - IM me at shido6@msn.com or greg@nufone.net and I'll hook ya up when I wakey wakey`
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`21:11.09`	`nesys`	`my sip debug = http://www.pastebin.com/263464`
`21:11.15`	`nesys`	`I don't understand`
`21:11.40`	`andy_newton`	`I can call out from my SIP phone through my * box and SIP provider, but incomming calls die as soon as i hit green button on Xlite. Any ideas ppl?`
`21:11.52`	`nesys`	`I try to make a call from x-lite (5302325) and 5302313 (registered on *)`
`21:12.16`	`nesys`	`to 5302313`
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`21:12.42`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`try disabling debug and just set a high verbose...(set verbose x where x is a number, say 20)`
`21:12.55`	`bkw_`	`while i'm at it.. might I say.. I LOVE PERL`
`21:13.09`	`fugitivo`	`me too`
`21:13.13`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`although at first glance it seems like something is wrong just with registering :)`
`21:13.18`	`fugitivo`	`I want to marry a girl that can program perl`
`21:13.22`	`nesys`	`RaYmAn-Bx roger`
`21:13.47`	`nesys`	`RaYmAn-Bx how to set verbose 20?`
`21:13.55`	`nesys`	`a set`
`21:13.55`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`you just said it`
`21:14.34`	`nesys`	`nothing`
`21:14.35`	`nesys`	`elessar*CLI> set verbose 20`
`21:14.35`	`nesys`	`Verbosity was 0 and is now 20`
`21:14.35`	`nesys`	`elessar*CLI>`
`21:14.59`	`nesys`	`I see nothing about the call`
`21:15.06`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`hmm`
`21:15.28`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`your debug output looks a bit suspecious..Where exactly are you calling from/to? X-Lite registered to the local *?`
`21:15.49`	`nesys`	`my rtp.conf is from 10000 to 10010 ... and the nat is for 5060 and for 10000-10010`
`21:16.02`	`nesys`	`exactly`
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`21:16.37`	`nesys`	`x-lite registered on sip.messagenet.it (5302325) ---> asterisk registered on sip.messagenet.it (5302313)`
`21:17.01`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`uh, so they are both registrered to sip.messagenet.it?`
`21:17.36`	`nesys`	`yep`
`21:17.38`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`i am proud to say there is no more redhat on this box`
`21:18.38`	`shuri`	`hi is there a way to make Asterisk answer after 4 or 5 rings envents?`
`21:18.48`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`nesys: why? Do you need it or? (that kind of setup has a tendency of causing problems with NAT)`
`21:18.57`	`jontow`	`shuri; yeah.. but you gotta time it ;) it waits in seconds, not rings.`
`21:19.00`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`shuri: delay answering with Wait,3`
`21:19.20`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`ok Wait,40`
`21:19.25`	`jontow`	`;)`
`21:19.36`	`shuri`	`thx JerJer[80x25]`
`21:19.55`	`nesys`	`RaYmAn-Bx I've 3 external SIP accounts on sip.messagenet.it ... and I would forward all calls from those to one phone registered on *`
`21:20.25`	`nesys`	`I use x-lite now only for debug`
`21:20.33`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`nesys: okay..so in the end you want to have X-Lite register with your asterisk server or?`
`21:20.55`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`The reason I'm asking is that it seems to cause more problems than it solves (using it for debug that is)`
`21:21.07`	`nesys`	`without x-lite ... I've a 7960 cisco registered via sip-ua (ccme) on *`
`21:21.26`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`okay`
`21:21.28`	`nesys`	`601 is the internal number for 7960`
`21:22.56`	`nesys`	`RaYmAn-Bx well .. how could test? all my friends have x-lite :)`
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`21:24.55`	`nesys`	`please help me :) I don't know what could I do :D`
`21:24.58`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`nesys: well..make sure the extensions are setup correctly for one thing...you don't seem to have any extensions for the 60X phones setup for example`
`21:25.24`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`the best way is basically getting one thing to work, then moving on to next as opposed to fixing everything at once`
`21:25.48`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`how about K.I.S.S?`
`21:26.05`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`make a trivial extension that just answers the call and plays a prompt`
`21:26.08`	`nesys`	`the cisco phones are registered on ccme ... then ccme are registered via sip-ua to * ... on * could see the phones with sip show peers`
`21:26.14`	`bkw_`	`I'm in love with MIME::Lite`
`21:26.15`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`then gradually make it more complext`
`21:26.19`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`-t`
`21:27.00`	`nesys`	`RaYmAn-Bx I know ... but all seems (for me, newbie) correct`
`21:27.56`	`nesys`	`in my log I see only that:`
`21:27.57`	`nesys`	`Found no matching peer or user for '212.97.59.76:5061'`
`21:28.09`	`nesys`	`this is the public ip of sip.messagenet.it ...`
`21:28.34`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`nesys: do as JerJer says..setup simple extension with just Answer and playing a file...then make sure you can call it from the Cisco phone, and then making sure your server registers properly to messagenet`
`21:28.51`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`keep it simple, stupid`
`21:29.46`	`nesys`	`ok, I'll do that`
`21:29.47`	`nesys`	`thanks`
`21:30.07`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`thank you, drive-thru`
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`21:31.14`	`PTG123`	`hmm could that sip patch of broken my cisco 7960 phone`
`21:31.40`	`DAM-`	`am i missing anything if i use @home and not the "official" code?`
`21:32.36`	`DAM-`	`and by missing anything i mean like features, programability, etc.`
`21:34.10`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`yes`
`21:36.04`	`DAM-`	`mind ellaborating a bit?`
`21:36.38`	`PTG123`	`anyone know what reorder means displayed on the 7960?`
`21:37.04`	`PTG123`	`when dialing a number`
`21:37.13`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`no`
`21:37.59`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`ptg123: either there is no such extension or there was a serious problem calling the number you dialed`
`21:38.21`	`PTG123`	`JerJer: i think my cisco is confused, and registering line one with line2s username`
`21:38.27`	`PTG123`	`JerJer: ever seen that?`
`21:38.29`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`i would guess no such extension`
`21:38.44`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`no, its configured wrong if it is doing that`
`21:40.07`	`PTG123`	`looking in config its right`
`21:40.09`	`PTG123`	`line2_blah`
`21:40.11`	`PTG123`	`for everything`
`21:41.32`	`PTG123`	`hmm thats weird`
`21:41.46`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`that is the problem`
`21:41.56`	`PTG123`	`looks like it pulled my SIPDefault instead of the proper file`
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`21:42.01`	`PTG123`	`with its mac address in it`
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`21:43.44`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`it is always going to pull SIPDEfault`
`21:43.49`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`then the specific file`
`21:44.16`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`you put general, network wide settings in SIPDefault`
`21:44.28`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`then only phone specific details in SIP<mac>.cnf`
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`21:45.52`	`andy_newton`	`hey. I have a quick question on what im doing wrong with 1 line in my extentions.conf. Anybody have a quick think 4 me?`
`21:46.12`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`don't ask to ask, just ask a question`
`21:46.12`	`PTG123`	`JerJer[80x25]: actually your right thats the way i had it.. it appears like its not applying settings to the phone at all`
`21:46.19`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`if somebody knows the answer they will chime in`
`21:46.24`	`PTG123`	`JerJer[80x25]: it still has my old setting for lines even though i have changed them`
`21:46.41`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`then SIP<mac>.cnf file is not named correctly`
`21:46.47`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`use tcpdump -x`
`21:46.50`	`andy_newton`	`have working sip connection. context=incoming_sipgate In my extensions.conf what do i need to add to playback demo-congrats to incomming callers`
`21:47.03`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`you will see excatly what the phone is requesting`
`21:47.25`	`andy_newton`	`have a [incoming_sipgate] section in my extensions.conf - what exten => ???? do i need?`
`21:47.47`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`exten => 666,1,Answer`
`21:47.57`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`exten => 666,2,Playback,demo-congrats`
`21:48.04`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`exten => 666,3,Hangup`
`21:48.22`	`PTG123`	`JerJer: i see it getting the right files, thats the weird thing`
`21:48.25`	`andy_newton`	`does it need to be 666? or is that an arbitary number?`
`21:48.29`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`then someone will have to call sip:666@your.host.com`
`21:48.36`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`it is completley arbitrary, of course`
`21:48.44`	`andy_newton`	`ok thanks. Will try now`
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`21:49.09`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`you can even start with exten => s,1,Echo`
`21:49.15`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`for a really simple begining`
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`21:49.29`	`andy_newton`	`Ahh, so if my incoming SIP id was say 12345@somehost.com it would need to be: exten => 12345,1,Answer etc???`
`21:49.36`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`correct`
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`21:49.52`	`andy_newton`	`i get it now. Thankyou kindly :)`
`21:50.50`	`PTG123`	`there needs to be a way to show sip debug for just one user/peer`
`21:50.54`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`don't forget to tip your waiter`
`21:51.01`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`ptg123 there is`
`21:51.07`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`sip debug peer bob`
`21:51.08`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`or`
`21:52.14`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`sip debug ip 1.2.3.4`
`21:52.15`	`PTG123`	`JerJer: how would i be able to see users regiastered?`
`21:52.20`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`users do not register`
`21:52.37`	`PTG123`	`well the phone did a proxy registration`
`21:52.41`	`PTG123`	`how do i see that it accepted it`
`21:53.00`	`PTG123`	`ok now it just all of a sudden worked`
`21:53.03`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`perhaps you should learn asterisk's fundementals before diving into 'fix' things (ala chan_sip)`
`21:53.04`	`PTG123`	`after i removed line2 settings`
`21:53.15`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`how about sip show peers ?`
`21:53.19`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`or sip show peer bob`
`21:53.25`	`PTG123`	`its not a peer`
`21:53.29`	`PTG123`	`its a user`
`21:53.29`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`but it is`
`21:53.40`	`PTG123`	`well regardless it doesn't show up as a peer`
`21:53.51`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`then you cannot have something register to your asterisk box`
`21:53.59`	`PTG123`	`it defintely registers`
`21:54.03`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`only type=peer takes a registration`
`21:54.07`	`PTG123`	`since it calls update`
`21:54.12`	`PTG123`	`and i place the ip in the users`
`21:54.15`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`then sip show peers will show it`
`21:54.23`	`PTG123`	`oh`
`21:54.39`	`PTG123`	`this is realtime :) so no it doesn't`
`21:54.54`	`PTG123`	`but all show does is show anything update din last X sections, since i saw it update i know it works`
`21:54.54`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`that was your first mistake`
`21:55.07`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`realtime is one huge bug`
`21:55.10`	`PTG123`	`well i think the cisco firmware has a problem`
`21:55.15`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`um no`
`21:55.16`	`PTG123`	`jerjer: its not so bad its my own implementation`
`21:55.26`	`PTG123`	`jerjer: as soon as i removed the settings for line2 it worked`
`21:55.28`	`PTG123`	`jerjer: explain that`
`21:55.40`	`PTG123`	`line2 is a completley different server too`
`21:55.41`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`i have deployed thousands of 7960s`
`21:55.54`	`PTG123`	`jerjer: with which build of firmware?`
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`21:56.08`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`7.x whatever is newest on cco`
`21:56.33`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`even your implemenation of realtime is a joke`
`21:56.36`	`PTG123`	`running 7.2`
`21:56.37`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`and i haven't seen it`
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`21:56.59`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`it is absoultly not necessary`
`21:57.16`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`and yes my configs come out of a database all day long`
`21:57.25`	`cursor`	`hello all`
`21:59.20`	`IQ`	`hi cursor`
`21:59.23`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`moo`
`21:59.37`	`cursor`	`moopee`
`22:00.01`	`jtodd`	`Anyone know off the top of their heads what voltage/milliamperage is required for the IAXy?`
`22:00.14`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`9v 1500 ma`
`22:00.47`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`speaking of voltage - battery is almost dead`
`22:00.49`	`PTG123`	`nothing i make is a joke`
`22:00.52`	`jtodd`	`Ouch. 1500ma. Wowza.`
`22:00.57`	`jtodd`	`I forgot it was that much.`
`22:01.00`	`PTG123`	`and i don't care waht you say, the cisco is screwing up`
`22:01.06`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`ptg123: if it is based anything remotely on realtime, it is`
`22:01.10`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`and no cisco is not screwing up`
`22:01.14`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`it is operator error`
`22:01.28`	`PTG123`	`the only thing it has in common with realtime, is it sets the realtime flag so the record gets destroyed after its used`
`22:01.36`	`PTG123`	`JerJer: i removed all the line2_ entries and it worked`
`22:01.37`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`then its a joke`
`22:01.47`	`harryvv`	`btw, I recently seen a phone/pbx system power on the lights inside a building. Is this the norm for pbx systems? Saw a security officer punching some dtmf numbers in turning on some lights because the after hours timers turned them off.`
`22:01.47`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`your asterisk box now depends on that database to function`
`22:01.55`	`PTG123`	`doesn't use an external database`
`22:02.15`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`even if its on the same machine`
`22:02.23`	`PTG123`	`it uses a hash based, indice based db core sync'd to disk, loaded into memory`
`22:02.25`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`it doesn't matter, it still depends on it`
`22:02.26`	`PTG123`	`as an asterisk module`
`22:02.40`	`PTG123`	`it depends on it as much as its own db, which is a shitty implementation`
`22:02.42`	`PTG123`	`filled with link lists`
`22:02.49`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`then where is a diff?`
`22:02.57`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`if your implemanation is so badass`
`22:03.00`	`PTG123`	`hash compared to linked lists`
`22:03.16`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`ok and?`
`22:04.03`	`PTG123`	`suit yourself, i don't care if you think its a joke or not`
`22:04.19`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`it is a joke until you prove otherwise`
`22:04.46`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`i wish realtime would have never made it into asterisk`
`22:04.54`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`there are far better methods`
`22:05.08`	`PTG123`	`doesn't matter if it did or not, most people can't even figureo ut how to get it working :)`
`22:05.29`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`obviously you cannot figure out a simple cisco issue`
`22:05.33`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`so how can you talk?`
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`22:06.25`	`JerJer[80x25]`	`i am a realist..either you proove yourself or shut up`
`22:06.36`	`PTG123`	`why do i need to prove anything to you?`
`22:06.48`	`PTG123`	`i don't give a shit what you think one way or another`
`22:07.29`	`InfraRed`	`anyone used GUIs to configure asterisk, any recommendations?`
`22:07.44`	`cursor`	`I use vi`
`22:07.50`	`InfraRed`	`i've had a look at the wiki. looking for recommendations before trying them out`
`22:08.04`	`cursor`	`I've never tried any of teh GUIs`
`22:08.06`	`hermie`	`cursor: I much prefer vim.... it's a nicer gui`
`22:08.12`	`InfraRed`	`:)`
`22:08.12`	`cursor`	`:-)`
`22:08.18`	`cursor`	`vim is too bloated for me :-)`
`22:08.23`	`InfraRed`	`emacs`
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`22:08.41`	`cursor`	`Emacs is an interesting approach to an operating system, but it lacks a decent editor.`
`22:08.41`	`TomL`	`riiiight cause emacs is less bloated than vim :P`
`22:09.03`	`PTG123`	`actually xemacs`
`22:09.04`	`cursor`	`:-)`
`22:09.08`	`cursor`	`MS Word`
`22:09.15`	`InfraRed`	`whats wrong with echo`
`22:09.23`	`hermie`	`ed?`
`22:09.26`	`TomL`	`edlin!`
`22:09.29`	`cursor`	`echo causes problems with phones`
`22:09.30`	`InfraRed`	`echo stuff > /usr/local/etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf :)`
`22:09.30`	`hermie`	`or better yet, red!`
`22:09.38`	`cursor`	`so don't edit your Asterisk config using echo :-)`
`22:10.00`	`InfraRed`	`you'ew saauch a useless bunch, but entertaining :)`
`22:10.05`	`InfraRed`	`-aa`
`22:10.29`	`TomL`	`actually, I use punch cards still`
`22:10.32`	`cursor`	`Usefulness comes after the holidays`
`22:11.03`	`TomL`	`sometimes paper tape, but I often run out of scotch tape to edit the code with`
`22:11.25`	`cursor`	`shredder`
`22:12.53`	`lessthan`	`I have a TDM11B and am trying to get Call Waiting working, I looked at http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-December/080524.html`
`22:13.55`	`zoa`	`hey ho`
`22:13.58`	`zoa`	`hello there all`
`22:15.02`	`harryvv`	`Whats a common reason for the called party to be heard but not hear them other then a firewall not setup right?`
`22:15.09`	`harryvv`	`Via say sixtel?`
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`22:17.22`	`cursor`	`firewall is probably the most common cause`
`22:17.28`	`cursor`	`for SIP`
`22:17.34`	`cursor`	`firewall and NAT etc.`
`22:18.33`	`harryvv`	`cursor, well it would make sence that I would not hear the other party because natrually the incoming rx would be blocked not the other way around.`
`22:19.09`	`harryvv`	`I also has to wait 15 sconds after consecutive beeps from sixtel before the called parties phone would ring.`
`22:20.21`	`cursor`	`The problem could be at Sixtel, of course`
`22:20.36`	`cursor`	`but don't rule out your firewall setup until you've double-checked it`
`22:20.53`	`cursor`	`also, record the call attempt with Monitor()`
`22:21.01`	`cursor`	`if the call gets recorded then it's ok as far as Asterisk`
`22:21.10`	`cursor`	`and the problem's between * and your phone`
`22:21.24`	`cursor`	`if you see what I mean`
`22:22.08`	`cursor`	`There are better tests, but that quick and dirty one is usually good`
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`22:24.59`	`harryvv`	`cursor, well internally the entire setup has always worked right. I probebly will try sixtel again and see if the same issue is occuring. BTW, Ever seen a voip service give one beep then another and a string of consecutive beeps after that before the called parties line is called? I suspect that means that all avaible channels are used up but could be wrong.`
`22:26.01`	`cursor`	`I've never seen that`
`22:26.17`	`cursor`	`perhaps it's some sort of "please wait for a line" feedback`
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`22:28.54`	`bkw_`	`ZOA the HOA`
`22:29.09`	`cursor`	`:-)`
`22:29.32`	`denon`	`any openvpn users awake? having problems getting these client certs to generate`
`22:29.43`	`bkw_`	`you terrorist you`
`22:29.59`	`denon`	`who me? just cause I like encryption? :)`
`22:30.02`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`22:30.10`	`bkw_`	`i'm kidding ya know`
`22:30.15`	`cursor`	`Encryption is a munition, apparently`
`22:30.17`	`denon`	`you'd be proud, im trying to replace some pptp gear`
`22:30.26`	`bkw_`	`windows pptp eh?`
`22:30.35`	`denon`	`but these cert files are generating as - bytes`
`22:30.38`	`denon`	`er 0`
`22:30.40`	`bkw_`	`why not just setup PoPtOp or what ever that is`
`22:30.52`	`denon`	`cause lots of providers are blocking their pptp stuff`
`22:30.54`	`cursor`	`How are you generating your certs?`
`22:31.01`	`denon`	`easy-rsa`
`22:31.08`	`bkw_`	`if a provider blocks pptp they need to be shot`
`22:31.12`	`denon`	`openvpn will let me tweak how the traffic flows .. udp53 or whatever`
`22:31.16`	`cursor`	`ok - I've never used easy-rsa`
`22:31.34`	`denon`	`cursor: wish I could do it without certs at all .. just passwords`
`22:31.45`	`denon`	`doesnt need to be very secure`
`22:31.50`	`denon`	`and I'd rather it be easy for them`
`22:32.13`	`cursor`	`what format does the cert need to be in?`
`22:32.53`	`denon`	`it generates with openssl`
`22:32.54`	`lessthan`	`I have a TDM11B and am trying to get Call Waiting working, I looked at http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-December/080524.html`
`22:33.08`	`cursor`	`ok - why not use openssl?`
`22:33.31`	`andy_newton`	`i have a SIP phone set-up as [testxlite] in sip.conf - how do i make that extension 1200? so i need something in sip.conf or extentions.conf?`
`22:33.38`	`cursor`	`lessthan: I don't have any TDM kit, so I can't help`
`22:33.46`	`denon`	`cursor: easy-rsa does just that: openssl req -days 3650 -nodes -new -x509 -keyout %KEY_DIR%\ca.key -out %KEY_DIR%`
`22:33.46`	`denon`	`\ca.crt -config %KEY_CONFIG%`
`22:34.21`	`lessthan`	`thanks, anyone else?`
`22:34.56`	`andy_newton`	`would i use regexten=1200 in the definistion is sip.conf to make that SIP Phone ext 1200?`
`22:35.22`	`cursor`	`Try using / instead of \`
`22:35.27`	`cursor`	`%KEY_DIR%\ca.key`
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`22:35.54`	`denon`	`maube I'll just use a static keyu`
`22:35.55`	`denon`	`-u`
`22:36.32`	`file[laptop]`	`my mother is so nosey...`
`22:36.49`	`file[laptop]`	`"why are you having a shower now? why not tomorrow or tomorrow night?"`
`22:37.29`	`cursor`	`You shouldn't use IRC in the shower`
`22:37.39`	`dwmw2_gone`	`and if you do, you shouldn't tell us`
`22:37.44`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`22:37.47`	`file[laptop]`	`but, like, waterproof laptop!`
`22:37.56`	`file[laptop]`	`provides the ultimate entertainment G`
`22:38.04`	`cursor`	`My laptop has teeth and claws`
`22:38.12`	`cursor`	`and it doesn't like showers`
`22:39.27`	`PTG123`	`file[laptop]: you should have replied can't a guy masturbate in peace`
`22:39.41`	`file[laptop]`	`lol`
`22:39.45`	`[hC]`	`Is there a command i can use in extensions.conf to exit from the current macro? For example in superdial, I have s-BUSY, I do a dbget at 2, and obviously a result goto at 103. It normally dies at 4, and i dont want it to continue on to 103`
`22:39.56`	`file[laptop]`	`pfft I don't do that in 'da shower`
`22:39.59`	`[hC]`	`Or, will it not continue on already, because it goes from 4 to 103`
`22:40.43`	`lesouvage`	`If I buy an digium X100P is it possible to have incoming calls to a sip phone and make outgoing calls from a sip phone from the "normal" phone net or do I need two cards?`
`22:40.47`	`cursor`	`hC: Put some sort of NoOp at the end of the macro`
`22:40.55`	`[hC]`	`4 is a NoOp`
`22:40.56`	`cursor`	`and use Goto to jump there to exit`
`22:41.07`	`[hC]`	`er, I see.`
`22:41.51`	`[hC]`	`so if i have something like s,4,NoOp`
`22:42.00`	`[hC]`	`then s,103,Congestion`
`22:42.10`	`[hC]`	`it will execute 4, then 103, even if theres nothing in between?`
`22:42.24`	`cursor`	`yes`
`22:43.09`	`cursor`	`remember that the order of the lines in the macro don't make a difference`
`22:43.16`	`cursor`	`it's the numbering that counts`
`22:43.37`	`[hC]`	`yeah, i know. I just wasnt sure if it was expecting n, n+1, or of it was just n, n`
`22:43.37`	`Qwell`	`file[laptop]: sorry, I have prior art on the waterproof laptop`
`22:44.57`	`[hC]`	`Last question for now. :) When you pass off to VoiceMail(), can the caller stay on the line and get back to the next sequence in the macro if they dont hang up?`
`22:45.18`	`[hC]`	`like if i have s,2,VoiceMail(u100)`
`22:45.26`	`[hC]`	`then s,3,Goto(somecrap)`
`22:45.35`	`cursor`	`I'm not sure, but I don't think so`
`22:45.39`	`[hC]`	`can i be sure the call will end at VoiceMail?`
`22:45.44`	`cursor`	`unless there's a new option I missed`
`22:45.46`	`[hC]`	`I'll test it out anyways`
`22:46.07`	`[hC]`	`its not dangerous really, the goto would just drop them back in the voicemail again, but.. heh`
`22:46.18`	`cursor`	`You can hook into the 'a' or 'o' and jump around from there`
`22:46.50`	`cursor`	`Dial() has an option like that`
`22:47.02`	`cursor`	`I don't think VM does, but I could be wrong`
`22:47.16`	`cursor`	`It'd probably be easy enough to add`
`22:47.16`	`[hC]`	`yeah i have to make better knowledge of how to properly use all of the extension types, where its a good idea, where its not necessary, etc..`
`22:47.38`	`[hC]`	`i dont WANT it to let them out of voicemail, so im not concerned with enabling it`
`22:48.02`	`[hC]`	`i just wanted to verify i could trust that voicemail would take them out of the macro so i didnt have to account for forcing them out myself`
`22:48.22`	`cursor`	`I use the 'a' (dial *) in VM to jump to a VM login prompt`
`22:48.39`	`cursor`	`so when you get the VM message, you can log in and check your own messages`
`22:48.48`	`cursor`	`if you see what I mean`
`22:50.16`	`[hC]`	`not really, because i dont know what 'a' implies, but once i go read up, im sure it will click.`
`22:50.16`	`[hC]`	`:)`
`22:51.53`	`cursor`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+VoiceMail`
`22:52.46`	`cursor`	`brb...`
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`22:59.01`	`*** join/#asterisk MarkS__ (MarkS@m198214185213.austincc.edu)`
`22:59.04`	`MarkS__`	`Hey Yall`
`23:00.31`	`MarkS__`	`We are looking for a coder... if interested Pivate Message me ASAP... We are a non-profit and you will get an ad on our international site.. please pm us your prices.... we will accept free and or partial work! THNX`
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`23:01.47`	`MarkS__`	`Mogorman- do you do asterisk coding?`
`23:04.47`	`mogorman`	`some`
`23:04.49`	`mogorman`	`why?`
`23:04.59`	`mogorman`	`i suck at coding so very little of my stuff is in tree`
`23:05.00`	`MarkS__`	`We are looking for a coder... if interested Pivate Message me ASAP... We are a non-profit and you will get an ad on our international site.. please pm us your prices.... we will accept free and or partial work! THNX`
`23:06.37`	`marlowe`	`Who wouldn't accept free work? :)`
`23:06.42`	`NormAst`	`mogorman: What coding did you submit for the tree?`
`23:06.47`	`marlowe`	`MarkS__: You might want to try asterisk-biz mailing list`
`23:07.25`	`MarkS__`	`ok cool, will do`
`23:07.41`	`MarkS__`	`thnx marlowe`
`23:07.52`	`MarkS__`	`Yu willing to help though :() >`
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`23:12.07`	`mogorman`	`i did some minor stuff in voicemail`
`23:12.17`	`mogorman`	`and did the readfile app`
`23:12.25`	`mogorman`	`and am working on jabber integration`
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`23:13.02`	`Dseven`	`what level of integration ?`
`23:13.08`	`mogorman`	`well`
`23:13.15`	`ff13`	`hi guys, i hope someone can help me on this. i'm just starting to explore asterisk by configuring it against my sip phone account. i tried to set it up so it plays the 'demo-congrats' message when i call in. however, it just says 'Spawn extension (default, 35015689, 5) exited non-zero on xxx' in the console when it tries to play the message. could someone please give me some suggestions as of where to look for?`
`23:13.19`	`mogorman`	`i am writing whole client side library as ast commands`
`23:13.31`	`ezabi`	`anybody with experience with cisco 7905, had some tests with it 2day`
`23:13.33`	`mogorman`	`but i am writing interface with manager`
`23:13.39`	`mogorman`	`and a simple screenpop`
`23:13.46`	`mogorman`	`but anyone could do anything with it when its done`
`23:13.57`	`denon`	`hehe cursor, nice auto response`
`23:14.03`	`Dseven`	`hmmm, ok`
`23:14.46`	`cursor`	`denon: thanks :-)`
`23:14.59`	`cursor`	`I don't use OpenVPN - sorry`
`23:15.02`	`denon`	`ah`
`23:15.12`	`cursor`	`but I know how to generate openssl keys`
`23:15.19`	`denon`	`nod`
`23:15.33`	`denon`	`Id like to get it going with static keys instead .. think it'll be easier for htem to maintain`
`23:15.51`	`MarkS__`	`...`
`23:16.04`	`cursor`	`What is a "static" key? Do you mean shared?`
`23:16.20`	`cursor`	`like where you give everyone the public and private keys?`
`23:17.10`	`cursor`	`or do you mean a non-PGP-style key (not a keypair)`
`23:17.29`	`denon`	`nope, one big global insecure key that you securely transport to each location`
`23:17.42`	`denon`	`beats any password they're using now ..`
`23:17.48`	`denon`	`and easy to set up new users without hassling us`
`23:18.02`	`MarkS__`	`WILL ANYONE HERE HOST A SMALL PBX FOR OUR NON PROFIT? IT WONT TAKE MUCH BWIDTH AND WHEN IT DOES WE WILL HAVE ENUF TO MOVE IT TO A GOOD SERVER`
`23:18.07`	`MarkS__`	`Sorry for caps`
`23:18.09`	`cursor`	`probably no more secure than a password`
`23:18.18`	`cursor`	`which you securely transport`
`23:18.50`	`cursor`	`more out of incompetence than design :-)`
`23:19.15`	`denon`	`cursor: yeah well, call it what you will :)`
`23:19.18`	`ezabi`	`MarkS__: y would u need to host a 'small' pbx?`
`23:19.19`	`cursor`	`Well, mostly because the "profit" gets re-invested`
`23:19.52`	`mogorman`	`lol`
`23:21.31`	`dan2`	`cursor: theres a difference between running a non-profit and a no profit`
`23:21.31`	`dan2`	`:)`
`23:21.36`	`cursor`	`:-)`
`23:22.10`	`cursor`	`Can't you just get a small server and run your PBX locally?`
`23:22.22`	`dasuberdavid`	`yes`
`23:22.31`	`hardwire`	`tick`
`23:22.31`	`hardwire`	`tock`
`23:22.34`	`hardwire`	`I can't wait to be drinking`
`23:22.45`	`mogorman`	`dnubb`
`23:22.48`	`ezabi`	`exactly and get it connectedi fu want`
`23:23.29`	`cursor`	`How many people will your PBX serve?`
`23:25.14`	`cursor`	`This IRC session was brought to you by the letter b and the number 7`
`23:25.28`	`cursor`	`:-)`
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`23:31.21`	`file[laptop]`	`even is mine seems I've been losing my time`
`23:31.26`	`file[laptop]`	`her heaven`
`23:31.31`	`file[laptop]`	`er heaven`
`23:31.50`	`file[laptop]`	`NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO`
`23:31.56`	`cursor`	`too late`
`23:32.01`	`cursor`	`watch that blue screen and cry`
`23:32.04`	`*** part/#asterisk MarkS__ (MarkS@m198214185213.austincc.edu)`
`23:32.07`	`file[laptop]`	`don't make me kick you`
`23:32.14`	`cursor`	`:-)`
`23:35.06`	`cursor`	`zzzzz`
`23:35.12`	`cursor`	`Good 'ere init?`
`23:35.59`	`*** join/#asterisk timecop (timecop@animenfo.com)`
`23:36.10`	`timecop`	`so eh, why the hell does asterisk need curl-config for?`
`23:36.11`	`timecop`	`during compile`
`23:37.15`	`[hC]`	`heh, its timecop`
`23:37.26`	`mogorman`	`what a great movie...`
`23:37.54`	`cursor`	`I've not seen Asterisk use curl-config`
`23:38.03`	`timecop`	`well it fucking tries to search for it`
`23:38.06`	`cursor`	`Perhaps I've not been watching too intently`
`23:38.11`	`timecop`	`apps/Makefile:CURLLIBS=$(shell $(CROSS_COMPILE_BIN)curl-config --libs)`
`23:38.14`	`timecop`	`or uses it for something.`
`23:38.19`	`file[laptop]`	`it doesn't NEED it`
`23:38.22`	`hermie`	`PTG123: if your McDonalds was in a WalMart, it would matter :)`
`23:38.23`	`file[laptop]`	`it's used in app_curl`
`23:38.27`	`[hC]`	`tROUTZ and what not.`
`23:38.39`	`timecop`	`[hC]: you've been troutified.`
`23:38.49`	`cursor`	`ah`
`23:39.01`	`cursor`	`the CVS head version has app_curl`
`23:39.04`	`cursor`	`the v1-0 doesn't`
`23:39.08`	`timecop`	`well see`
`23:39.12`	`cursor`	`I'm using v1-0`
`23:39.14`	`timecop`	`v1-0 doesnt fucking work with sip registration`
`23:39.19`	`RoyK`	`wtf is app_curl?`
`23:39.21`	`timecop`	`so i'm stuck using some shit from last year`
`23:39.26`	`mogorman`	`show application curl`
`23:39.28`	`file[laptop]`	`RoyK: it allows you to request a URL`
`23:39.28`	`timecop`	`because its the last version that works.`
`23:39.43`	`timecop`	`trying latest cvs again to see if its been unfucked`
`23:39.49`	`cursor`	`What would be the problem with installing curl?`
`23:39.50`	`Corydon76-home`	`Well, load a URL outside of the context of a channel URL`
`23:40.10`	`Corydon76-home`	`i.e. it's not like SendURL`
`23:40.12`	`timecop`	`cursor: because I dont need it?`
`23:40.19`	`cursor`	`It seems that you do`
`23:40.27`	`timecop`	`no, I sure dont`
`23:40.36`	`file[laptop]`	`what is with everyone's whining today?`
`23:40.39`	`cursor`	`then don't build it`
`23:40.46`	`Corydon76-home`	`Curl is sometimes useful for external integration`
`23:41.28`	`timecop`	`im still wondering if sip will be fucked or not in this new version`
`23:41.31`	`timecop`	`something tells me it will be.`
`23:41.42`	`timecop`	`opensores always fails.`
`23:41.52`	`timecop`	`"oh, it barely works for 99% of the cases, lets release it"`
`23:42.08`	`cursor`	`weird`
`23:42.11`	`cursor`	`Perhaps I'm >12`
`23:42.16`	`Corydon76-home`	`And you would have us do chan_sip otherwise?`
`23:42.22`	`mogorman`	`sip fucked?`
`23:42.28`	`mogorman`	`sip works`
`23:42.33`	`mogorman`	`millions using etc`
`23:42.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`Why haven't you taken a lead in fixing the issues that you see?`
`23:43.09`	`Corydon76-home`	`I already know the answer... because you enjoy whining about it more than trying to fix it.`
`23:43.11`	`cursor`	`SIP works fine for me`
`23:43.19`	`file[laptop]`	`SIP also works fine for me`
`23:43.22`	`cursor`	`Most of my VoIP calls are SIP-based`
`23:43.30`	`mogorman`	`sip works fine for everyone of my callers`
`23:43.48`	`cursor`	`probably 80% SIP and 20% IAX2`
`23:44.05`	`Silik0n`	`most of the voip calls on the internet in general are sip`
`23:44.09`	`file[laptop]`	`mogorman: so have all of the Matts formed their own union yet?`
`23:44.17`	`mogorman`	`lol`
`23:44.28`	`mogorman`	`we are matt-borg`
`23:44.29`	`mogorman`	`fear us`
`23:44.31`	`file[laptop]`	`haha`
`23:44.35`	`Silik0n`	`UofM Union of Matts`
`23:44.39`	`cursor`	`resistance if futile`
`23:44.47`	`file[laptop]`	`your PBX will be converted!`
`23:44.53`	`mogorman`	`well we have started renaming people in support matt`
`23:44.55`	`bkw_`	`hahahahah`
`23:44.58`	`mogorman`	`it will only spread from there`
`23:44.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`assimiliated, file`
`23:45.05`	`Silik0n`	`to MicrosoftPBX 2005`
`23:45.05`	`cursor`	`asterisk assimilation`
`23:45.08`	`file[laptop]`	`pfft we don't want to assimilate CCM`
`23:45.10`	`mogorman`	`file[laptop] is now file[matt]`
`23:45.11`	`file[laptop]`	`that would be death`
`23:45.16`	`mogorman`	`i have declaired it`
`23:45.17`	`bkw_`	`fsck file`
`23:45.17`	`bkw_`	`mount file`
`23:45.24`	`mogorman`	`give into the dark side`
`23:45.27`	`file[laptop]`	`my new name is matt`
`23:45.27`	`mogorman`	`you know it is true`
`23:45.35`	`file[laptop]`	`mogorman: hello Matt`
`23:45.37`	`mogorman`	`mwahahahaha`
`23:45.41`	`mogorman`	`hello matt`
`23:45.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`"Why do you resist us? We only want to improve quality of life."`
`23:45.45`	`bkw_`	`ok whats a nice pdf2tiff converter`
`23:45.53`	`bkw_`	`free would be nice`
`23:45.54`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`23:46.03`	`mogorman`	`pdf2tiff`
`23:46.05`	`mogorman`	`or something`
`23:46.07`	`file[laptop]`	`I'm Josh! there's many of us too!`
`23:46.09`	`mogorman`	`your mac can do it bkw`
`23:46.18`	`mogorman`	`just go into preview`
`23:46.20`	`mogorman`	`do save as`
`23:46.28`	`bkw_`	`duh`
`23:46.30`	`mogorman`	`lol`
`23:46.33`	`mogorman`	`loser`
`23:46.33`	`bkw_`	`i want it on linux ninny`
`23:46.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`You might have to convert pdf to ps first... before converting to tiff...`
`23:46.58`	`Silik0n`	`linux is over rated`
`23:46.58`	`mogorman`	`lol`
`23:46.58`	`mogorman`	`as is life`
`23:46.58`	`hermie`	`pdf2ps -> convert`
`23:46.59`	`bkw_`	`na I can do direct tiff2pdf and pdf2tiff i'm sure`
`23:47.12`	`Corydon76-home`	`but the underlying utility would be ghostscript, anyway... for both...`
`23:47.17`	`bkw_`	`no it doesn't`
`23:47.22`	`Silik0n`	`* (as in the wildcard) is over rated`
`23:47.34`	`bkw_`	`I have tiff2ps and tiff2pdf without ever touching gs`
`23:47.38`	`mogorman`	`what you say`
`23:47.45`	`bkw_`	`now I want the reverse of htat`
`23:47.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`bkw_: take at look at those... almost guaranteed it's a shell script that calls ghostscript`
`23:48.05`	`bkw_`	`no its not`
`23:48.09`	`bkw_`	`its a binary`
`23:48.13`	`bkw_`	`static binary at that`
`23:48.17`	`bkw_`	`asterisk.bkw.org/tiff.tar.gz`
`23:48.33`	`file[laptop]`	`bkw_: you're silly`
`23:48.43`	`bkw_`	`i built those from the tiff lib`
`23:48.53`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ah...`
`23:49.05`	`bkw_`	`i'm sure the reverse can take place.. hehe`
`23:49.16`	`PTG123`	`bkw_: there you are`
`23:49.19`	`file[laptop]`	`I bet bkw is up to no good...`
`23:49.24`	`PTG123`	`bkw_: you looked at this osip before?`
`23:50.09`	`bkw_`	`OH LORD thats python`
`23:50.14`	`dasuberdavid`	`lol`
`23:50.17`	`bkw_`	`and from someone that uses a mac`
`23:50.59`	`timecop`	`well, lets see if new asterisk fails it`
`23:51.16`	`mogorman`	`fails?`
`23:51.18`	`mogorman`	`timecop`
`23:51.23`	`mogorman`	`what doesnt work for you`
`23:51.33`	`cactus1`	`sweet just ordered me a digium`
`23:51.48`	`mogorman`	`lol`
`23:51.50`	`mogorman`	`a digium?`
`23:51.53`	`file[laptop]`	`a what?`
`23:51.56`	`cactus1`	`mm hm`
`23:51.58`	`cursor`	`yes - the whole company`
`23:52.02`	`file[laptop]`	`nah`
`23:52.05`	`file[laptop]`	`probably just a Matt`
`23:52.06`	`cactus1`	`x100p`
`23:52.08`	`mogorman`	`nice`
`23:52.17`	`mogorman`	`mark was getting on my nerves`
`23:52.21`	`cactus1`	`ar3 they g00d?`
`23:52.22`	`timecop`	`mogorman: SIP registration wasnt working for about a year for my config.`
`23:52.23`	`mogorman`	`i call vice president ^_^`
`23:52.28`	`mogorman`	`uh hu`
`23:52.29`	`timecop`	`works now though, glad to see they fixed it`
`23:52.31`	`mogorman`	`and then what`
`23:52.39`	`timecop`	`time to backport my chan_sip changes + app_meetme :(`
`23:52.40`	`cursor`	`-_- <-- chinese`
`23:52.42`	`hermie`	`bkw_: [nick@localhost nick]$ convert native.pdf native.tiff`
`23:52.49`	`cactus1`	`my packet 8 dta will be here wednesday`
`23:52.50`	`cursor`	`_-_ <-- chinese tourist in Australia`
`23:52.50`	`file[laptop]`	`pfft let's send Greg off to Antarctica, I'll takeover for sales!`
`23:52.59`	`mogorman`	`lol`
`23:53.02`	`mogorman`	`nooo`
`23:53.03`	`cactus1`	`bbl`
`23:53.10`	`file[laptop]`	`we can keep Jim though`
`23:53.31`	`file[laptop]`	`mogorman: but it's all up to you Mr. Vice President baby!`
`23:54.03`	`mogorman`	`lol`
`23:54.05`	`mogorman`	`mwahahha`
`23:54.09`	`mogorman`	`im in charge ^_^`
`23:54.13`	`file[laptop]`	`muahaha`
`23:54.58`	`mogorman`	`and the matts will rule the earth`
`23:55.22`	`marlowe`	`Speak for yourself`
`23:55.25`	`marlowe`	`I dont want to rule the world`
`23:55.26`	`cursor`	`rule that earth`
`23:55.29`	`marlowe`	`or earth`
`23:55.31`	`marlowe`	`:)`
`23:55.50`	`mogorman`	`you will`
`23:55.52`	`mogorman`	`you will`
`23:56.46`	`cursor`	`It's probably time I bought a webcam and set up MythPhone`

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