| 00:01.04 | Hmm-home | pgsql doesn't have the same licensing issues |
| 00:01.16 | *** join/#asterisk clinthome (~clinthome@pa-adamscyl-cmts1c-15.pittpa.adelphia.net) |
| 00:01.24 | pressure_man | do u prefer to use pgsql? |
| 00:01.47 | pressure_man | i can't figure out why asterisk doesn't ship mysql support, but then nearly everything in the wiki revolves around mysql |
| 00:02.21 | Hmm-home | PM: licensing |
| 00:02.48 | pressure_man | yeah i understand that bit - |
| 00:02.55 | rv_weasel | so why would i have echo on my sip hndset but not on the land line it is dialing? |
| 00:03.02 | count | because mysql is extremely easy to get a crappy little fast db running |
| 00:03.05 | count | it's like MS access |
| 00:03.06 | pressure_man | but if pgsql offers a more friendly licence, why doesn't the wiki give more examples of pgsql? |
| 00:03.14 | count | pg is less newbie friendly |
| 00:03.21 | count | having to actually configure something, etc |
| 00:03.23 | rv_weasel | only outging, dont happen when i dial console |
| 00:03.26 | pressure_man | hahah |
| 00:03.29 | Hmm-home | unless you're running debian... then it's super easy |
| 00:03.37 | pressure_man | true |
| 00:03.50 | pressure_man | but do you guys recommend pgsql over mysql? |
| 00:03.54 | count | I do |
| 00:03.56 | count | In general |
| 00:04.00 | count | It's faster/better/more |
| 00:04.10 | pressure_man | i mean, i can work with both. and at the heart of my bottom, i prefer pgsql |
| 00:04.15 | count | Does mysql do triggers and stuff yet? |
| 00:04.18 | count | I haven't checked in a while |
| 00:04.30 | count | I know they got transactions sorta |
| 00:04.32 | pressure_man | but if it's going to involve too much pain using asterisk with pgsql, i can use mysql i guess |
| 00:04.32 | count | with innodb |
| 00:04.34 | Hmm-home | pgsql has a damn nice gui too |
| 00:04.38 | count | gui? |
| 00:04.43 | count | pgsql doesn't come with a gui |
| 00:04.46 | sbingner | gui, yuck |
| 00:04.50 | pressure_man | mysql has a pretty slick gui |
| 00:04.52 | Hmm-home | 3rd party gui |
| 00:04.56 | count | wtf uses those |
| 00:05.15 | pressure_man | but i just remember a friend of mine working at an ISP, saying that the RADIUS logging they did to mysql had a nasty habit |
| 00:05.20 | count | unless you're doing like OLAP data visualization or something |
| 00:05.26 | pressure_man | sometimes mysql would just 'lose' a few hundred thousand rows |
| 00:05.36 | count | pressure_man: mysql used to shit a brick all the time |
| 00:05.40 | Hmm-home | count: gui's have their places |
| 00:05.41 | count | I don't think that's a big deal anymore |
| 00:05.47 | Hmm-home | nice to have them around sometimes |
| 00:05.54 | count | Hmm-home: but not in picking which db backend you'll be using :) |
| 00:06.07 | Hmm-home | no of course not |
| 00:06.09 | pressure_man | i think pgsql is faster anyway. |
| 00:06.10 | count | PG is like Oracle the DB |
| 00:06.16 | count | pressure_man: only if you know how to tune it |
| 00:06.21 | count | setting shmem and stuff |
| 00:06.30 | pressure_man | certainly on a big/complex db, and certainly with > 1 concurrent connection |
| 00:06.33 | count | otherwise mysql will roast it out of the box for simple stuff like read/insert |
| 00:06.36 | count | flat tables |
| 00:06.44 | count | Yeah |
| 00:06.49 | count | mysql is a glorified flatfile api |
| 00:06.50 | count | :) |
| 00:07.00 | pressure_man | hahah... mysqlite |
| 00:07.07 | *** join/#asterisk gambolputty (~gambolput@cblmdm72-240-241-108.buckeyecom.net) |
| 00:07.22 | Hmm-home | pgsql is really overkill for what asterisk would use it for |
| 00:07.29 | count | not neccesarily |
| 00:07.35 | count | just because what asterisk is spitting out is simple |
| 00:07.43 | count | You can massage it with triggers and stuff in pg |
| 00:07.51 | count | which I don't think you can do with mysql yet? |
| 00:08.08 | count | And why limit yourself up front |
| 00:08.09 | pressure_man | maybe in 5.0, but who's brave enough to run an alpha from mysql? |
| 00:08.11 | Hmm-home | that's a good question |
| 00:08.16 | count | it's not like the licensing is expensive :) |
| 00:08.31 | count | pressure_man: hundreds of thousands of linux website fanboys |
| 00:08.32 | count | :) |
| 00:08.42 | pressure_man | mysql is becoming a bit too commercialised for my liking |
| 00:08.49 | Hmm-home | looks like mysql has just started to support triggers |
| 00:08.56 | count | That's awesome |
| 00:08.59 | count | it only took 7 years |
| 00:09.12 | Hmm-home | "Rudimentary support for triggers is included beginning with MySQL 5.0.2." |
| 00:09.13 | pressure_man | it's got all the hallmarks of becoming a 'pro' version and a 'lite' (crippled) free version |
| 00:09.23 | count | pressure_man: so easy, just stay away from it |
| 00:09.28 | count | pg ain't going anywhere |
| 00:09.38 | litage | Hmm-home: what are triggers? |
| 00:09.41 | count | PG's supposed to be doing multi-master replication here soon! |
| 00:09.55 | pressure_man | well, as long as the upcoming asterisk-realtime will support pgsql |
| 00:09.56 | count | litage: they let you 'trigger' a procedure automatically when something happens to the data |
| 00:10.04 | Hmm-home | litage: database events that you can use to set off other events |
| 00:10.07 | litage | awesome! |
| 00:10.10 | count | so you can say 'anytime a row is inserted in this table, run this 'x' script' |
| 00:10.20 | pressure_man | does mysql have stored procs yet? |
| 00:10.22 | litage | how much 'overhead' does that require though? |
| 00:10.23 | count | pg/oracle/mssql have done them for years |
| 00:10.25 | Hmm-home | yeah it does |
| 00:10.27 | count | litage: depends on what you do |
| 00:10.30 | pressure_man | foreign keys? |
| 00:10.33 | count | mysql has stored proc now?! |
| 00:10.35 | count | cool |
| 00:10.36 | count | about time :) |
| 00:10.40 | count | or is that 5x beta |
| 00:10.49 | pressure_man | i thought 5.x was alpha ;-) |
| 00:10.52 | count | oh |
| 00:10.56 | count | 3x is stable |
| 00:10.58 | count | 4x beta |
| 00:11.00 | count | 5x alpha |
| 00:11.03 | count | 3x == data eater |
| 00:11.04 | pressure_man | haha |
| 00:11.16 | count | mysql still does table-level locking |
| 00:11.17 | count | w00t |
| 00:11.17 | Hmm-home | i am sunburnt |
| 00:11.24 | litage | count: i meant to ask, "how much overhead does the trigger funcationality add" rather than "how much overhead does the actual trigger add" since the actual trigger is implementation-specific |
| 00:11.26 | pressure_man | you're joking? |
| 00:11.30 | count | litage: none |
| 00:11.32 | count | well |
| 00:11.37 | litage | count: really? how is that? |
| 00:11.37 | pressure_man | table level locking? that's death on big tables |
| 00:11.41 | count | no appreciable amount |
| 00:11.48 | count | litage: what do you mean how is that? |
| 00:11.51 | count | 'good design' ? |
| 00:11.54 | litage | haha |
| 00:12.05 | count | extensive use of threading? |
| 00:12.08 | pressure_man | mysql's motto: 'i think i can, i think i can' |
| 00:12.11 | count | HAHA |
| 00:12.17 | count | 'oops, spilled some' |
| 00:12.20 | Hmm-home | i need to start using pgsql more |
| 00:12.26 | pressure_man | pgsql's motto: 'i ~know~ i can, i know i can' |
| 00:12.26 | count | pg rox sox |
| 00:12.26 | litage | count: something has to be watching the db/table/row(s) to know when to execute a trigger, no? |
| 00:12.53 | count | litage: it's just another line in the DML saying 'do x if trigger exists' |
| 00:13.02 | count | it's not a scanning/polling thing |
| 00:13.12 | count | the db engine itself calls the trigger as part of the modification of the table |
| 00:13.14 | pressure_man | yep, when mysql has views, foreign keys, stored procs, transactions, and schemas.... then i might consider it |
| 00:13.22 | count | pressure_man: they'll get there! |
| 00:13.29 | count | I hear 8x is being anounced soon! |
| 00:13.30 | count | :) |
| 00:13.32 | pressure_man | in 2015? |
| 00:13.41 | tzanger | count: until mysql CLEANS UP THEIR ACT I won't touch 'em with a 10 foot pole |
| 00:13.46 | count | When mysql is SQL99 compliant |
| 00:13.50 | count | they can start adding features |
| 00:13.52 | tzanger | by that I mean TAKING ARTISTIC LICENSE WITH MY DATA |
| 00:13.55 | pressure_man | wow, what's that, alphatooscarytoruncode? |
| 00:14.09 | count | tzanger: your data looks better as all 0's |
| 00:14.18 | count | mysql is a minimalist db engine |
| 00:14.22 | tzanger | count: if MySQL was consistent it might work. :-) |
| 00:14.23 | count | it likes to minimize the amount of data it keeps |
| 00:14.24 | count | :) |
| 00:14.25 | tzanger | it's not a db engine at all |
| 00:14.32 | count | it's a flat file interface |
| 00:14.32 | count | well |
| 00:14.35 | count | innodb isn't 'flat' |
| 00:14.40 | count | but the old mysam shit was |
| 00:14.46 | tzanger | it's a data storage app that will creatively rearrange your data without telling you |
| 00:14.50 | Hmm-home | you really want flat, move over to sqlite |
| 00:14.51 | pressure_man | mysql's new compression feature deletes the rows that you haven't read in a while. space savings of 50% or more guaranteed! |
| 00:14.52 | count | haha |
| 00:14.53 | PatrickDK | myism |
| 00:14.56 | count | sqlite at least works |
| 00:14.56 | tzanger | pressure_man: hahaha |
| 00:15.03 | count | hehehe |
| 00:15.07 | count | That's why it's so fast! |
| 00:15.10 | tzanger | sqlite is very very nice. throw a thin network layer on it and it's great |
| 00:15.12 | count | it gets rid of all that garbage! |
| 00:15.15 | count | tzanger: yes! |
| 00:15.17 | Hmm-home | actually I think asterisk does support sqlite in the dialpan |
| 00:15.20 | count | I use mod_python/sqlite extensively |
| 00:15.27 | count | asterisk does ODBC |
| 00:15.33 | count | which means you can do pg or sqlite or whatever |
| 00:15.38 | pressure_man | ODBC on top of sqlite. woohoo! |
| 00:15.41 | count | haha |
| 00:15.46 | PatrickDK | myism isn't flat, but it's close to being flat |
| 00:15.48 | Hmm-home | no.. without ODBC |
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| 00:15.54 | pressure_man | i know there's a real DB engine in there somewhere.... |
| 00:15.57 | tzanger | count: yeah but odbc's another layer on top of it all |
| 00:16.02 | count | Layers are good |
| 00:16.04 | count | the more you have |
| 00:16.07 | count | the more stable your stack! |
| 00:16.11 | count | heh |
| 00:16.18 | PatrickDK | heh, the more full your stack |
| 00:16.24 | Hmm-home | nm, just sqlite for cdr's |
| 00:16.26 | pressure_man | the slower your stack |
| 00:16.31 | count | That's why I got SMP and gigs of RAM! |
| 00:16.39 | count | slower is relative |
| 00:16.44 | count | just buy better CPUs! |
| 00:16.49 | Hmm-home | that memory leaks will eventually eat up |
| 00:16.52 | count | AMD x2 4000s heh |
| 00:16.58 | PatrickDK | multible layers are good, as long as there is a point to the layer |
| 00:16.58 | count | Hmm-home: scheduled reboots! :) |
| 00:17.01 | pressure_man | tomorrow's slow code is yesterday's fast code. |
| 00:17.08 | darkgumby | Hello all. I am an Asterisk newbie. I need some help finding a VOIP provider that is Asterisk friendly - this is for residential use so I need to keep it low cost. Any recommendations? |
| 00:17.13 | PatrickDK | just doing postgress->mysql conversions isn't that great of a stack |
| 00:17.19 | count | darkgumby: www.voip-info.org |
| 00:17.24 | count | there's tons of them listed |
| 00:17.28 | Hmm-home | nufone, voipjet etc.. |
| 00:17.35 | darkgumby | count: been there - I want personal experience |
| 00:17.46 | PatrickDK | dark, that site is personal exp |
| 00:17.47 | count | You didn't specify :) |
| 00:17.49 | count | And yeah |
| 00:17.50 | Ariel_ | darkgumby, do you want US phone number as well as Long Distance calling? |
| 00:17.52 | PatrickDK | I mean, that is what a wiki is :) |
| 00:17.53 | pressure_man | i think i'm going to write a front end web gui for asterisk. that doesn't suck. |
| 00:17.57 | count | You need to be more specific |
| 00:17.57 | darkgumby | Ariel_: yes |
| 00:18.02 | count | pressure_man: haw, good luck |
| 00:18.09 | Hmm-home | AMP doesn't necessarilly suck |
| 00:18.15 | pressure_man | hey, i'm getting paid for it. |
| 00:18.33 | pressure_man | and it would be nice to use asterisk realtime, but i don't think it's ready for primetime yet |
| 00:18.45 | count | get paid to fix it |
| 00:18.59 | pressure_man | still can't figure out why my 1.0.x install has an extconfig.conf though |
| 00:19.01 | Ariel_ | darkgumby, well the ones I know are VoicePulse, Race.com and for long distance only I use Nufone and voipjet. There are others. But these have not done me wrong. |
| 00:19.20 | count | darkgumby: are you looking for IAX |
| 00:19.22 | count | or SIP? |
| 00:19.36 | Ariel_ | pressure_man, some leftover from another setup using head? |
| 00:19.47 | darkgumby | count: I'm too much of a newbie to really know. I know I want SIP. Don't know why/if I need IAX |
| 00:19.47 | key2 | i'm looking for a cheap SIP or IAX provider for middle east |
| 00:19.48 | pressure_man | so i think i'll store my config in a db, using table schemas identical to the upcoming asterisk realtime, but use PHP to write out .conf files |
| 00:19.50 | key2 | someone has an idea ? |
| 00:20.12 | count | Are any voip companies providing local did's in the middle east? |
| 00:20.14 | Ariel_ | darkgumby, IAX2 will be better if you have a firewall of any type. |
| 00:20.17 | pressure_man | when asterisk realtime hits stable, just drop out the .conf rendering |
| 00:20.20 | Hmm-home | voipjet, nufone |
| 00:20.29 | count | pressure_man: yay |
| 00:20.31 | count | except |
| 00:20.36 | count | don't pollute that with php |
| 00:20.39 | count | you want python |
| 00:20.41 | Hmm-home | php is not bad |
| 00:20.43 | count | you know in your heart you do |
| 00:20.44 | pressure_man | haha |
| 00:20.49 | Hmm-home | if you do it right |
| 00:20.52 | pressure_man | i don't have time to learn python |
| 00:20.56 | Ariel_ | pressure_man, so your going to make a gui in your own style. |
| 00:21.02 | count | yo'd be amazed at how quickly you'd pick it up |
| 00:21.10 | pressure_man | besides, php5 is looking pretty good these days |
| 00:21.15 | darkgumby | Ariel_: I can put the asterisk box in the DMZ or forward ports if necessary. |
| 00:21.20 | count | is php5 stable yet? |
| 00:21.21 | pressure_man | there are some good MVC frameworks for php5 |
| 00:21.32 | Hmm-home | darkgumby if you don't want to muck with it use IAX |
| 00:21.34 | count | and did they standardize on the function names? |
| 00:21.38 | pressure_man | yep. and php 5.1 is in beta. meant to be quite a big faster than previous |
| 00:21.41 | Ariel_ | darkgumby, ok but just so you know that is what they all say at first. |
| 00:21.47 | pressure_man | count: they're getting there |
| 00:21.52 | count | haha |
| 00:21.53 | Hmm-home | there was a lot of work done on zend |
| 00:22.01 | pressure_man | most of the OO stuff is using studlyCaps i think |
| 00:22.07 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 00:22.09 | tzanger | studlyCaps |
| 00:22.10 | Ariel_ | There is a new module version of Amp coming out. |
| 00:22.11 | tzanger | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 00:22.18 | count | that's called 'camelcase' pressure_man :) |
| 00:22.18 | key2 | is there any nice WIFI iax or SIP phone ? |
| 00:22.41 | pressure_man | sure, but haven't you heard of studlycaps? |
| 00:22.44 | count | Yeah |
| 00:22.44 | Ariel_ | wifi ---- strange most I have seen are ifie. |
| 00:22.45 | darkgumby | won't putting the box in the DMZ take care of the NAT problems? |
| 00:22.55 | count | darkgumby: depends on the router |
| 00:22.58 | pressure_man | i mean, it's about as ridiculous name as camel caps... but whatever |
| 00:22.59 | count | and your firewall, etc |
| 00:23.09 | Ariel_ | darkgumby, no not at all. |
| 00:23.11 | count | pressure_man: I mean the names of the functions |
| 00:23.13 | Ariel_ | but it will help. |
| 00:23.22 | count | compare/contrast the names of the mysql and postgres data manipulation functions |
| 00:23.31 | pressure_man | php5.1 will introduce PDO - PHP data objects |
| 00:23.45 | pressure_man | they're doing a big cleanup of all the DB functions |
| 00:23.48 | count | why couldn't they just use data drivers and a standard set of functions like verybody else :) |
| 00:23.57 | count | fetch_row |
| 00:24.08 | count | instead of mysql_fetch_array or pg_fetch_all |
| 00:24.09 | count | or whatever |
| 00:24.15 | pressure_man | but i intend to use the agavi MVC framework (www.agavi.org) and creole DB abstraction |
| 00:24.21 | key2 | Ariel_: so you don't know a nice SIP phone ? |
| 00:24.23 | key2 | wifi |
| 00:24.48 | Ariel_ | key2, nice wifi well all the ones I have seen or used are not worth it. |
| 00:24.55 | pressure_man | creole is basically adodb updated for php5 |
| 00:25.04 | darkgumby | Ok, then I'll shoot for IAX. which provider(s) do IAX - have flat rate unlimited US calling - and are * friendly |
| 00:25.05 | count | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wireless+VOIP |
| 00:25.07 | cypromis | Hitachi Cable Wifi 5000 is niced |
| 00:25.08 | count | key2 |
| 00:25.14 | Ariel_ | voicepulse |
| 00:25.15 | pressure_man | best features of adodb and Pear::DB merged |
| 00:25.25 | count | pressure_man: that won't end well :) |
| 00:25.52 | count | adodb the php adodb or adodb the ms ADO stuff |
| 00:25.56 | Ariel_ | hitachi one works great as long as you only have one wifi router. ( I have a customer with 3 of them). |
| 00:25.57 | count | that was a stupid name for php to use |
| 00:26.14 | darkgumby | Ariel_: any idea on cost/month? I'll hit their site soon. |
| 00:26.19 | cypromis | hmmm mine does roaming quite nicely |
| 00:26.25 | Ariel_ | www.voicepulse.com |
| 00:26.52 | pressure_man | adodb the php version |
| 00:27.06 | pressure_man | but i've gone off php4 in a big way |
| 00:27.07 | Ariel_ | cypromis, we have had problems with dropped calls in the middle of change over. |
| 00:27.41 | pressure_man | at least php5 has proper private/public/protected vars and functions. supports abstract classes and exceptions |
| 00:28.05 | darkgumby | Ariel_: Do you use them - if so in what kind of config? |
| 00:28.44 | *** join/#asterisk ptblank (~MURDER1@68-65-93-235.lmdaca.adelphia.net) |
| 00:28.47 | Ariel_ | darkgumby, I use there connection part. I get an local did for 11 dollars a month unlimite inbound. and up to 4 calls with it. |
| 00:29.01 | doolph | HELLO |
| 00:29.10 | count | HI |
| 00:29.12 | count | SALUD |
| 00:29.18 | Ariel_ | works great I use ld with nufone/voipjet and I also have an account that works great with race.com |
| 00:29.24 | Ariel_ | doolph, hello |
| 00:29.28 | doolph | heya ariel |
| 00:29.47 | darkgumby | Ariel_: thanks |
| 00:29.48 | *** join/#asterisk travelingpcguy (~amenne@Dardeene-68.188.63.51.charter-stl.com) |
| 00:30.34 | travelingpcguy | I am sure this question has been asked over 1000 times today... But I missed the 2.0 "release" of Asterisk |
| 00:30.41 | travelingpcguy | Can I get it still? |
| 00:30.52 | travelingpcguy | I know one of you have it. |
| 00:30.54 | file[laptop] | what? |
| 00:30.54 | pressure_man | lol |
| 00:30.56 | loud | hehe |
| 00:31.03 | file[laptop] | yeah and my name is Felicia |
| 00:31.07 | travelingpcguy | Tell me it's a joke |
| 00:31.12 | travelingpcguy | ? |
| 00:31.12 | cypromis | hi felicia |
| 00:31.14 | pressure_man | check the wayback machine. maybe it cached it |
| 00:31.14 | cypromis | lol |
| 00:31.21 | Ariel_ | 2.0 ha there not even on 1.2 yet |
| 00:31.33 | travelingpcguy | Come on... why the RSS on astridocs? |
| 00:31.41 | pressure_man | that's because 2.0 was a special one-day-only release |
| 00:31.58 | travelingpcguy | Ok, and.... |
| 00:31.58 | cypromis | look at the date of the post |
| 00:32.05 | pressure_man | heheh |
| 00:32.05 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hello |
| 00:32.11 | travelingpcguy | July 1?? |
| 00:32.14 | cypromis | april 1 |
| 00:32.18 | cypromis | morn mr J |
| 00:32.20 | cypromis | hoes life ? |
| 00:32.24 | cypromis | hows even |
| 00:32.25 | cypromis | :D |
| 00:32.54 | travelingpcguy | Fukkkkkkkkkkkkkk |
| 00:32.56 | travelingpcguy | Grrrr |
| 00:33.13 | travelingpcguy | .NET... and such is ALLL bgus? |
| 00:33.17 | travelingpcguy | bogus? |
| 00:33.23 | travelingpcguy | I am RED mad!!! |
| 00:33.27 | travelingpcguy | Grrrrr |
| 00:33.39 | travelingpcguy | OK, well then I am a dumb ass! |
| 00:33.49 | count | hahahaha |
| 00:33.56 | count | .net? |
| 00:34.02 | count | that rules |
| 00:34.03 | Ariel_ | windows version.... |
| 00:34.09 | travelingpcguy | I am trying to better understand the DB integration... |
| 00:34.09 | count | heh |
| 00:34.29 | MikeJ[Laptop] | almost have my asterisk cygwin patches working.... |
| 00:34.29 | travelingpcguy | Does anyone have info about DB over and obove the wiki? |
| 00:34.35 | Ariel_ | how about making it work on db2..... |
| 00:34.42 | MikeJ[Laptop] | sigh.. porting is a pain in the butt |
| 00:34.49 | pressure_man | from what i understand, the DB stuff is in turmoil |
| 00:34.57 | travelingpcguy | I care less about windows... |
| 00:35.05 | travelingpcguy | I care more about getting and storing data |
| 00:35.09 | Ariel_ | pressure_man, yes last I saw your correct. |
| 00:35.13 | pressure_man | there have been about 5 different ways of doing config-in-DB in the wiki |
| 00:35.33 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I am sick of doing dev work on my windows laptop and not being able to do a compile test on it... |
| 00:35.43 | MikeJ[Laptop] | so.... |
| 00:35.53 | pressure_man | my suggestion is to store config in DB in a format that will be compatible with asterisk-realtime, but still render .conf files and reload asterisk |
| 00:36.01 | count | MikeJ[Laptop]: 'vmware' |
| 00:36.14 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I know... virtual machines are a pain |
| 00:36.20 | Ariel_ | pressure_man, why both? |
| 00:36.22 | pressure_man | for those of us that want a PBX that just works, you're better off sticking with the stable branch |
| 00:36.26 | travelingpcguy | I.e., a follow me app where I can build an app that allows an end user to store several "numbers" and based on a "status" calls would be routed accordingly. |
| 00:36.38 | MikeJ[Laptop] | besides... it's pretty doable |
| 00:36.42 | pressure_man | Ariel_: so that when asterisk realtime goes stable, you can simply stop rendering the .conf files |
| 00:36.48 | MikeJ[Laptop] | like I said, I am very close. |
| 00:36.51 | count | isn't there already a find-me-follow-me thing for asterisk? |
| 00:37.00 | Ariel_ | pressure_man, that is the plan for it. |
| 00:37.19 | Ariel_ | count, yes it's called a good dial plan |
| 00:37.22 | pressure_man | but in the meantime, with a 1.0.x stable version, you still really have to depend on the .conf files |
| 00:37.23 | count | haha |
| 00:37.48 | Ariel_ | pressure_man, yes and that is why I use only stable on my production systems. |
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| 00:38.06 | travelingpcguy | I have never seen one.... A "good dial plan... yes", but a DB directed one... no. |
| 00:38.10 | SarahEmm | hihi |
| 00:38.10 | pressure_man | i work for a company that is going to package asterisk on commercial systems |
| 00:38.21 | litage | SarahEmm: toronto, eh? whereabouts? |
| 00:38.23 | count | Linksys! |
| 00:38.25 | pressure_man | we can't afford to muck around with bleeding edge versions |
| 00:38.26 | count | heh |
| 00:38.36 | count | make sure you ship 1.0.0 on redhat 6 |
| 00:38.56 | pressure_man | if you're trying to replace a rock solid hardware PBX, you have to be real sure of your software PBX |
| 00:38.57 | key2 | someone knows a PCI card that can handle GSM for asterisk ? |
| 00:39.05 | SarahEmm | litage: north york area 'round yonge |
| 00:39.09 | SarahEmm | whyfor do you ask litage? |
| 00:39.19 | count | key2: what do you mean? |
| 00:39.23 | SarahEmm | key2: uhh, what? what kind of interface? |
| 00:39.28 | key2 | zaptel |
| 00:39.35 | SarahEmm | any interface card will do GSM, not hardware encoding/decoding tho |
| 00:39.43 | SarahEmm | key2: T1? T3? J1? POTS FXO? |
| 00:39.46 | litage | SarahEmm: i'm from toronto, that's all |
| 00:39.49 | key2 | SarahEmm: no |
| 00:39.55 | SarahEmm | key2: uhh... what then? |
| 00:39.59 | SarahEmm | litage: ahh. whereabouts? |
| 00:40.00 | count | YOU KNOW |
| 00:40.04 | count | 'HANDLES' it |
| 00:40.12 | key2 | SarahEmm: a PCI card that has module in it to put a SIM card |
| 00:40.14 | SarahEmm | count: oh! HANDLES it? ahh! |
| 00:40.16 | key2 | to use with asterisk |
| 00:40.19 | count | oh |
| 00:40.20 | count | you mean |
| 00:40.21 | litage | SarahEmm: west end..keele and bloor |
| 00:40.21 | SarahEmm | key2: oh! GSM cell phone, not GSM codec! |
| 00:40.23 | count | GSM cellular |
| 00:40.26 | SarahEmm | key2: doesn't exist afaik |
| 00:40.28 | SarahEmm | litage: ahh. |
| 00:40.34 | count | bluetooth |
| 00:40.34 | SarahEmm | litage: sheppard-yonge stationish here |
| 00:40.39 | count | and SIP |
| 00:40.40 | count | :) |
| 00:40.44 | SarahEmm | heh |
| 00:40.46 | litage | SarahEmm: it's nice to find other torontonians, that's all =) |
| 00:40.47 | SarahEmm | that's not a PCI card tho :) |
| 00:40.49 | travelingpcguy | There are several SIP to GSM gateways, standalone |
| 00:40.52 | SarahEmm | litage: yepyep :) ever go to meetups? |
| 00:41.01 | litage | SarahEmm: nope; never heard of them |
| 00:41.05 | travelingpcguy | We use 1 here in missouri. |
| 00:41.09 | travelingpcguy | I love it! |
| 00:41.16 | travelingpcguy | We save big $$! |
| 00:41.19 | MikeJ[Laptop] | pressure_man, better off waiting for 1.2 and then stripping out functionality... as it stabalizes, it will be way less problematic than 1.0.x branch in many ways |
| 00:41.24 | litage | SarahEmm: i'm guessing meetups are when a bunch of irc people in the same city get together? |
| 00:41.32 | key2 | SarahEmm: why doesnt it exist ? it's not interesting to be able to put 4 or 8 SIM cards on a PCI card for asterisk ? |
| 00:41.33 | count | whats the ETA to 1.2? |
| 00:41.43 | cypromis | ETA is illegal in spain |
| 00:41.47 | count | haha |
| 00:41.51 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hehe |
| 00:41.55 | MikeJ[Laptop] | soon... |
| 00:42.04 | MikeJ[Laptop] | depending on your definition of soon thatt is |
| 00:42.14 | darkgumby | http://race.com looks like it offers a BYOD residential service that will meet my needs. Can anyone comment on it? |
| 00:42.17 | count | we talking days, weeks, months, quarters, or years |
| 00:42.28 | count | Why's it always gotta be a race thing |
| 00:42.30 | MikeJ[Laptop] | not years, not quarters |
| 00:42.31 | cypromis | decades |
| 00:42.36 | count | Aeons |
| 00:42.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | my guess 1-3 months |
| 00:42.37 | cypromis | *gg |
| 00:42.43 | cypromis | 123 months |
| 00:42.45 | count | MikeJ[Laptop]: till 1.2 is stable? |
| 00:42.47 | travelingpcguy | Soon => 1, DBput (Horseshoes, hand granades, and small nuclear weapons) |
| 00:42.48 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hehe |
| 00:42.57 | cypromis | stable is over rated |
| 00:43.03 | count | well |
| 00:43.06 | MikeJ[Laptop] | oh, that depends on how much people use it.. and that stable word is ... |
| 00:43.10 | count | stable in the opensource meaning of the word |
| 00:43.11 | count | as in |
| 00:43.18 | Ariel_ | darkgumby, I am can. But since I do work for them it's a one sided part. |
| 00:43.18 | count | installs ok for 3 or 4 people |
| 00:43.22 | count | runs ok for the guy who wrote it |
| 00:43.32 | key2 | SarahEmm ? |
| 00:43.32 | darkgumby | Ariel_: do you mind a private chat? |
| 00:43.38 | count | h0t ch4t |
| 00:43.50 | cypromis | lol |
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| 00:44.00 | SarahEmm | power blip.. heh |
| 00:44.11 | SarahEmm | litage: why do you need 8 GSM links from asterisk? |
| 00:44.22 | cypromis | why not ? |
| 00:44.22 | count | World Domination |
| 00:44.32 | litage | SarahEmm: i don't =) i think you meant that for someone else |
| 00:44.33 | cypromis | I would love a E3 to GSM gateway |
| 00:44.34 | count | SarahEmm: it was key2 who was asking |
| 00:44.35 | cypromis | :) |
| 00:44.50 | count | That's called a 'cell tower' |
| 00:44.53 | SarahEmm | oh. oops :) |
| 00:45.01 | SarahEmm | right, litage is the totoro one :) |
| 00:45.04 | litage | aye |
| 00:45.17 | PatrickDK | hmm, they make them |
| 00:45.22 | PatrickDK | and they aren't cell towers :) |
| 00:45.26 | SarahEmm | they do?? |
| 00:45.27 | PatrickDK | well, the large ones arebut well |
| 00:45.29 | SarahEmm | for *? |
| 00:45.36 | PatrickDK | ya, some company makes them, not for asterisk |
| 00:45.46 | SarahEmm | ahh okay |
| 00:45.47 | PatrickDK | but it's some kind of cell to voip devic |
| 00:45.54 | SarahEmm | ooh right but to SIP Right? |
| 00:45.57 | SarahEmm | not a PCI card? |
| 00:46.00 | travelingpcguy | No, We also use 4 and 8 GSM links. One account for each SIM, and this allows for cell users to call PSTN resources via asterisk... Like DISA, but on CELL -2-Cell minutes... Much cheaper if not free depending on the cell plan. |
| 00:46.07 | PatrickDK | na |
| 00:46.13 | litage | SarahEmm: i'm guessing meetups are when a bunch of irc people in the same city get together? |
| 00:46.17 | PatrickDK | then there is always the fxo -> cellphone adaptor :) |
| 00:46.24 | count | The lengths people will go to to cheat the phone companies are amazing |
| 00:46.26 | count | :) |
| 00:46.27 | SarahEmm | litage: yeah, i was talking specifically about the Asterisk meetups :) |
| 00:46.37 | SarahEmm | the toronto asterisk meetups i mean |
| 00:46.46 | litage | SarahEmm: ah, didn't know about that. i'm actually in australia at the moment though =P |
| 00:46.50 | travelingpcguy | True... Has saved one of my customers over 900$US monthly. |
| 00:47.21 | PatrickDK | hell, I save alot of money on my cell phone |
| 00:47.24 | key2 | SarahEmm: what if you have a special deal with a GSM operator and you wanna have few lines from them, how do you do ? |
| 00:47.34 | CoaxD | damnit. I'm on this box. it doesn't have ppp on it, nor does it have sz/rz. No uudecode, even! I think i'm screwed |
| 00:47.48 | travelingpcguy | Maybe this will make the Cell carriers go to unlimited packages Phone-2-phone or Cell -2-PSTN? |
| 00:47.53 | PatrickDK | hehe, what about xmodem? :) |
| 00:47.59 | CoaxD | PatrickDK: Not even xmodem! *lol* |
| 00:48.06 | SarahEmm | litage: oh lol okay :) there are toronto * meetups.. never been to one yet but might try |
| 00:48.09 | CoaxD | PatrickDK: (sz/rz == xmodem) |
| 00:48.18 | PatrickDK | sz/rz=zmodem :) |
| 00:48.18 | SarahEmm | travelingpcguy: no, it'll make them pull the unlimited cell2cell ones :P |
| 00:48.27 | litage | SarahEmm: how do/did you find out about them? |
| 00:48.32 | CoaxD | PatrickDK: And xmodem and ymodem and all variants, too |
| 00:48.37 | SarahEmm | CoaxD: been there. copy the uudecode source over a plain serial link |
| 00:48.40 | SarahEmm | then compile uudecode |
| 00:48.43 | PatrickDK | hmm, I remember when zmodem first came out |
| 00:48.47 | travelingpcguy | I have the 2 Year contract.... Hopefully in 2 years we can fix that! |
| 00:48.49 | SarahEmm | then uuencode rz source and copy it over... |
| 00:48.52 | PatrickDK | it was like new life for the 2400baud modems |
| 00:48.53 | CoaxD | Sara: Bwahahahahaha |
| 00:49.02 | SarahEmm | CoaxD: uudecode.c is a single file. i've done it....... :) |
| 00:49.09 | CoaxD | SaraEmm: WOOOO! |
| 00:49.16 | CoaxD | SaraEmm: Thats a GREAT idea!! |
| 00:49.23 | CoaxD | (Shit, I didn't even THINK of that) |
| 00:49.47 | count | cat uudecode.c > /dev/cuas0 |
| 00:50.20 | key2 | count: no, cat uudecode.c > /dev/hda1 |
| 00:50.24 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 00:50.31 | key2 | as root |
| 00:50.35 | count | hda1 isn't a serial device :) |
| 00:50.42 | count | or a character device |
| 00:50.50 | key2 | count: and what if it's SATA ? |
| 00:50.53 | key2 | serial ata !!! |
| 00:50.55 | SarahEmm | no, but it'll happily overwrite your drive for you. |
| 00:50.55 | key2 | so you can |
| 00:50.58 | key2 | don't worry |
| 00:50.58 | count | still a block device |
| 00:51.11 | key2 | do that: cat uudecode.c > /dev/hda1 |
| 00:51.14 | key2 | but as root ! |
| 00:51.16 | count | dd if=uudecode.c of=/dev/dha1 |
| 00:51.19 | count | hda |
| 00:51.28 | PatrickDK | hmm, almost all os's convert char to block thesedays |
| 00:51.29 | CoaxD | yeah, i'll get right on that |
| 00:51.42 | count | OH NO |
| 00:51.46 | count | MY BOX DOESNT BOOT NOW |
| 00:51.52 | count | YOU GUYS BROKE IT |
| 00:51.57 | key2 | :) |
| 00:52.00 | CoaxD | haha |
| 00:52.15 | key2 | count: are you for real ? |
| 00:52.29 | count | of coruse |
| 00:52.31 | key2 | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA |
| 00:52.31 | count | would I lie? |
| 00:52.44 | key2 | did you really cat on /dev/hda1 ? |
| 00:52.57 | count | < _ < |
| 00:53.00 | count | > _ > |
| 00:53.02 | count | ^_^ |
| 00:53.03 | count | no |
| 00:53.06 | key2 | ok |
| 00:53.10 | key2 | i thought u were dumb :) |
| 00:53.15 | count | Thanks |
| 00:53.29 | count | That means alot when you can't even be bothered to spell out 'you' |
| 00:54.27 | key2 | YOU |
| 00:56.35 | count | ty |
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| 01:02.44 | key2 | the zyxel 2000 is woth it or doesnt work ? |
| 01:04.16 | bgb39201 | i'm relatively new to voip... does anyone know if it is ok to have your phones on the same subnet as your computers. do you risk poor quality, or is the voip traffic somehow prioritize even without a managed QoS switch, VLAN support, etc |
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| 01:04.58 | rv_weasel | will someone try to call 17008828395 |
| 01:05.27 | count | bgb39201: 'it depends' |
| 01:05.35 | mmlj4 | bgb39201: no major issues with phones and computers on the same subnet... just use the best switch you can buy, etc. |
| 01:06.03 | SarahEmm | bgb39201: well, unless your file server is also the VoIP box or such, or you max out the server's backplane, you should be okay |
| 01:06.08 | mmlj4 | yes, vlans can help, etc. |
| 01:06.09 | bgb39201 | will a standard e.g. unmanaged dlink switch do? |
| 01:06.14 | PatrickDK | as long as the network stays under 60% usage, it should be ok |
| 01:06.29 | count | haha |
| 01:06.37 | count | 60% |
| 01:06.37 | key2 | PatrickDK: if the phone and the computer are on two different vlan , it's ok no ? |
| 01:06.42 | count | can a dlink even push 60%? |
| 01:06.51 | SarahEmm | key2: unless you max out the switch backplane :) |
| 01:06.59 | PatrickDK | key2, if your switch is smart enough to do that, it's fine |
| 01:07.06 | count | the only thinga vlan does is segment broadcast domains |
| 01:07.26 | key2 | count: you can set the qos higher on one than the other one tho |
| 01:07.38 | count | that's not a function of the vlan |
| 01:07.43 | count | you can also change qos based on ip |
| 01:07.46 | count | or whatever |
| 01:07.49 | count | depending on your switch/router |
| 01:07.55 | count | if you have to set qos |
| 01:07.57 | count | you need a bigger pipe |
| 01:07.58 | count | :) |
| 01:08.06 | key2 | count: I meant that you can set the priority to the phone subnet |
| 01:08.13 | count | sure |
| 01:08.17 | count | you can do that without vlans is what I was saying |
| 01:08.31 | count | All of my phones are on the same vlan as my workstations |
| 01:08.33 | key2 | count: in ulaw, what's the bandwith used >? |
| 01:08.36 | count | but they get a higher qos |
| 01:08.41 | count | ulaw is 80kb/s |
| 01:08.43 | count | iirc |
| 01:08.52 | count | g.729 is 8kb/s |
| 01:08.56 | count | gsm is 13kb/s |
| 01:09.00 | key2 | count: for the quality, wha't the best codec ? |
| 01:09.05 | count | for quality? |
| 01:09.06 | count | ulaq |
| 01:09.08 | count | ulaw |
| 01:09.13 | key2 | ok |
| 01:09.14 | count | it sounds awesome |
| 01:09.19 | count | but that's only 80kb/s |
| 01:09.20 | key2 | and if there was a compression ? |
| 01:09.28 | count | ? |
| 01:09.40 | key2 | I mean, what other codec that has a compression is good |
| 01:09.40 | key2 | ? |
| 01:09.42 | travelingpcguy | DB question re-visited... Can I assume that "family = Table" within the asterisk DB? |
| 01:09.46 | bgb39201 | count: so you must be using a managed switch right? what do recomend for network hardware ideally? |
| 01:10.02 | key2 | bgb39201: how many phones ? |
| 01:10.02 | count | bgb39201: it depends on your environment and what you need |
| 01:10.07 | count | key2: I use g.729 |
| 01:10.12 | count | but you gotta pay for the licene |
| 01:10.14 | count | license |
| 01:10.17 | key2 | but how many phones do you wanna use |
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| 01:10.24 | count | hundreds? |
| 01:10.27 | bgb39201 | only 3 or 4 to begin |
| 01:10.28 | key2 | count: how much is the license by the way? |
| 01:10.34 | key2 | bgb39201: go with ulaw |
| 01:10.37 | key2 | why do you bother |
| 01:10.38 | count | $10/channel from digium I think |
| 01:10.43 | key2 | 80kb = NOTHING |
| 01:10.55 | count | 80kb * 300 phones is not nothing |
| 01:11.01 | key2 | count: so if you have a quad E1, it would cost you 120 * 10 = 1200 for the license ? |
| 01:11.08 | tzanger | hehehe |
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| 01:11.14 | PatrickDK | hmm, for lan traffic that is 170kb * phones |
| 01:11.17 | key2 | count: 3 or 4 phones he said |
| 01:11.17 | doughecka_ | thats nothing in licensing |
| 01:11.27 | SarahEmm | key2: except an E1 has 29 B channels, afaik |
| 01:11.31 | count | $10 per g729 channel |
| 01:11.35 | bgb39201 | but, i am worried that if i used to network heavily, e.g. file transfers etc., it my interfere with voip service on the phones |
| 01:11.36 | count | not per circuti channel |
| 01:11.41 | count | All of my shit is SIP |
| 01:11.41 | SarahEmm | *nods* |
| 01:11.48 | count | so I don't mess with that stuff |
| 01:11.48 | count | :) |
| 01:11.51 | PatrickDK | bgb, it will |
| 01:11.58 | count | bgb39201: it will :) |
| 01:12.00 | PatrickDK | so run it on a different lan |
| 01:12.03 | PatrickDK | or get a qos switch |
| 01:12.21 | count | or get a wirespeed non-blocking switch |
| 01:12.33 | count | and make sure your lan utilization isn't to the same place as your phone utilization |
| 01:12.37 | PatrickDK | and go gigabit :) |
| 01:12.43 | count | more than likely your choke point is going to be a router or WAN link |
| 01:12.47 | count | or dropping to POTS/PSTN stuff |
| 01:13.10 | count | unless you got super shitty gear, any plain 10/100 switch should be able to handle 3/4 phones with no problem at all |
| 01:13.22 | key2 | PatrickDK: if you have a switch with 4 100Mb port (A B C D) you can have 100Mb beetween A and C and at the same time 100MB between B and D! |
| 01:13.32 | count | key2: not always true |
| 01:13.35 | count | thats 'in theory' |
| 01:13.39 | count | not all switches are nonblocking |
| 01:13.43 | litage | how, even after the 1-euro payment, can The Voip Buster offer free calling to PSTNs?: voipbuster.com/en/rates.html |
| 01:13.45 | key2 | count: all my cisco do that |
| 01:13.58 | count | key2: read your docs closely, not even all cisco's are nonblocking :) |
| 01:13.58 | PatrickDK | key2, swichs can't do that |
| 01:14.07 | count | PatrickDK: yes they can |
| 01:14.08 | PatrickDK | unless you have very good switchs |
| 01:14.11 | SarahEmm | key2: until you hit the backplane capacity. |
| 01:14.13 | PatrickDK | and that is not what he said he had |
| 01:14.16 | SarahEmm | key2: at which point you have issues |
| 01:14.34 | count | SarahEmm: that's only on switches that are underpowered |
| 01:14.37 | key2 | count: then there would be no diff between a switch and a hub! |
| 01:14.43 | PatrickDK | cheap switch backplanes do only like 1 to 1.5 times network speed |
| 01:14.45 | count | key2: not true at all |
| 01:14.52 | count | a switch doesn't flood frames to every port |
| 01:14.56 | count | a hub would |
| 01:15.03 | SarahEmm | CoaxD: err... mew? |
| 01:15.17 | count | a switch limits your CSMA/CD collision domain to a single cable |
| 01:15.21 | count | rather than the whole network |
| 01:15.24 | SarahEmm | cisco 2900s have 1.2gbit backplanes |
| 01:15.30 | SarahEmm | *ponders* |
| 01:15.34 | count | and 24 10/100 ports |
| 01:15.36 | count | which is 2.4gb/s |
| 01:15.37 | count | :) |
| 01:15.40 | SarahEmm | point. :) |
| 01:15.48 | PatrickDK | ya, run alot of 2900, 3800 switchs |
| 01:15.53 | _DAW | a switch will broadcast flood to all ports |
| 01:15.54 | key2 | count: anyway, i have cisco 3548 and I can set it in a way that I get 100Mb between two port and two other ports |
| 01:16.03 | count | _DAW: yes, it has to |
| 01:16.10 | _DAW | t yup |
| 01:16.10 | count | but it won't flood normal traffic |
| 01:16.13 | count | unless it's got an arp issue |
| 01:16.15 | _DAW | correct |
| 01:16.21 | PatrickDK | daw, that is where vlans come in |
| 01:16.21 | count | ciscos are good at that |
| 01:16.26 | PatrickDK | to stop broadcast floods |
| 01:16.27 | _DAW | yes unless the fdb needs to be updated |
| 01:16.34 | _DAW | ie mac expired |
| 01:16.37 | count | yeah |
| 01:16.47 | count | arp table / cam table timer interplay is fun to troubleshoot! |
| 01:17.02 | count | key2: sure |
| 01:17.03 | _DAW | i dont know if I would call that fun :) |
| 01:17.17 | count | _DAW: in the too-much-free-time style of 'fun' |
| 01:17.19 | count | heh |
| 01:17.28 | SarahEmm | count: alrightie, you have a point. haven't looked at that spec in a Long time. 3524s have a 10Gbps backplane for 24 10/100 ports and a pair of gig ports.. so anything newish should be safe :) |
| 01:17.30 | count | key2: but not all switches can do that |
| 01:17.39 | count | SarahEmm: not entirely :) |
| 01:17.41 | count | that model is fine |
| 01:17.48 | count | LOTS of them are big enough |
| 01:17.56 | key2 | count: I can also have 10 ports of 100Mb sending all together to the 1Gb optic fiber |
| 01:17.57 | bgb39201 | i get the feeling i'll save myself a lot of headaches if i keep the phones and the * box on a separate subnet and wire each phone individually to the sunneted (is that a word?) switch |
| 01:18.06 | count | my 450x's have 18 GBIC slot blades with only 12gb/s of backplane though |
| 01:18.22 | bkw_ | count, just because you have 24 10/100 ports doesn't mean you have 2.4gb/s switching fabric |
| 01:18.27 | count | key2: 10 100Mb will generate more traffic than 1 1gb port can handle :) |
| 01:18.32 | count | bkw_: that was what I was telling SarahEmm |
| 01:18.38 | SarahEmm | count: true. |
| 01:18.59 | bkw_ | most switches don't have switching capacity to handle fully loaded ports |
| 01:19.03 | count | bgb39201: at 3-4 phones, you shouldn't have to worry about anything |
| 01:19.11 | count | bkw_: that was my original point :) |
| 01:19.19 | key2 | count: anyway, it does also great multicasting |
| 01:19.21 | bkw_ | sorry just got here.. too lazy to read back |
| 01:19.21 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:19.26 | count | heh |
| 01:19.33 | bkw_ | it was pretty funny |
| 01:19.39 | SarahEmm | bkw_: most recent cisco smaller ones seem to. 2900, 2950, 3500s, 3550s do in the 24pt 10/100 + a couple gig versions |
| 01:19.43 | count | I like doing multicast stuff on my 3com gear |
| 01:19.46 | tzanger | bkw_: ?? most switches have multigigabit switching fabrics |
| 01:19.50 | count | all the lights on the switch face go completely solid |
| 01:20.04 | bkw_ | tzanger, yes but not enough to handle every port at 100% capacity |
| 01:20.07 | tzanger | no |
| 01:20.11 | tzanger | not every port you're absolutely right |
| 01:20.15 | bgb39201 | count: thanks... i will give it a try on the same network and see. |
| 01:20.18 | bkw_ | that was my point :P |
| 01:20.25 | count | the vast majority of switches don't have the backplane capacity to handle their front ports at full blast |
| 01:20.34 | count | the ones that do are a good deal more expensive |
| 01:20.34 | bkw_ | exactly |
| 01:20.38 | count | 30-40% at least |
| 01:20.42 | bkw_ | or more |
| 01:20.47 | tzanger | the Baystack 450-24Ts I use have either 40GB or 400GB switching fabric, I forgret which |
| 01:20.47 | count | depends on density, yeah |
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| 01:20.58 | count | 40gb probably |
| 01:21.02 | bkw_ | bet it's 40 |
| 01:21.04 | count | 400gb on a 24 port switch is stupid |
| 01:21.05 | count | heh |
| 01:21.12 | bkw_ | yep |
| 01:21.17 | SarahEmm | so is 40 :) |
| 01:21.21 | CoaxD | SaraEmm, just fyi, you just totally saved my ass. I installed pppd and pppconfig |
| 01:21.22 | bkw_ | not really |
| 01:21.23 | _DAW | hp 2524 is non blocking for under 500 dollars |
| 01:21.24 | count | no |
| 01:21.28 | count | 24 * 2 = 48 full duplex |
| 01:21.29 | count | :) |
| 01:21.30 | _DAW | 9.6gbs switch fabric |
| 01:21.31 | bkw_ | yep |
| 01:21.37 | SarahEmm | oh, 24 port gig? |
| 01:21.42 | CoaxD | saraemm: via uudecode src *lol* |
| 01:21.45 | count | _DAW: but then you have to use HP :) |
| 01:21.51 | SarahEmm | Coaxd: been there :o) welcome! :o) |
| 01:22.15 | _DAW | yeah but they have a lifetime warranty :) |
| 01:22.23 | count | Lifetime of the company |
| 01:22.23 | count | heh |
| 01:22.30 | bgb39201 | what do you all recommend for good quality sip phones with speaker phone ... i've been trying the sipura 841s and the speakerphone is really terible (and many people are complaining about this in the newsgroups also) |
| 01:22.30 | _DAW | :) |
| 01:22.30 | count | Will HP be making procurves in 3 years? |
| 01:22.38 | count | bgb39201: price range? |
| 01:22.41 | cypromis | polycom |
| 01:22.42 | count | I really like my Polycom 501 |
| 01:22.44 | _DAW | no better speakerphone thatn polycom |
| 01:22.49 | cypromis | you can try the 301 |
| 01:22.53 | count | $180 or so for the 501 |
| 01:22.53 | cypromis | if you need a cheaper one |
| 01:22.56 | count | the 301 is cheaper, yeah |
| 01:23.01 | _DAW | Does 301 have speaker? |
| 01:23.04 | SarahEmm | heh *nods* 'polycom' is like 'kleenex' in our office for 'speakerphone' |
| 01:23.09 | count | haha |
| 01:23.17 | bgb39201 | like to keep the price under $300 |
| 01:23.27 | count | you can get the nice one for that :) |
| 01:23.36 | key2 | _DAW: is there any HP non blocking wiht 48 ports ? |
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| 01:24.01 | count | 48 port switches make my fingers hurt |
| 01:24.05 | count | too dense |
| 01:24.15 | bgb39201 | thanks for the advice, appreciated. |
| 01:24.16 | count | I need to get a special RJ removal tool |
| 01:24.17 | _DAW | not sure.. check the procurve products on there site. |
| 01:24.27 | _DAW | lots have POE now. |
| 01:24.34 | count | Everybody is doing POE |
| 01:24.36 | doughecka_ | you can get a fully licensed cisco phone from pomeroy for ~300 |
| 01:24.44 | doughecka_ | 7940 |
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| 01:25.30 | _DAW | key2- look at 2650 and 2650-PWR |
| 01:25.37 | bgb39201 | doughecka: how would cisco compare to the polycoms? |
| 01:25.48 | doughecka_ | cisco speakerphones totally rock |
| 01:25.52 | cypromis | the speakerphone is far worse than on the polycoms |
| 01:25.56 | doughecka_ | the best... |
| 01:26.00 | bkw_ | fuck paying cisco for a lic. for the phone |
| 01:26.05 | SarahEmm | rofl |
| 01:26.05 | cypromis | besides that |
| 01:26.06 | bkw_ | thats the dumbest shit I have ever heard of |
| 01:26.06 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:26.10 | count | is that 802.3f? |
| 01:26.12 | SarahEmm | 'cisco speakerphones totally rock' 'the speakerphone is far worse' |
| 01:26.15 | cypromis | the cisco phones have an old polycom speakerphone tech inside |
| 01:26.18 | doughecka_ | the only polycom I have seen is an analog speaker phone thing.. |
| 01:26.18 | Ariel_ | Polycom's rocks. |
| 01:26.44 | count | ive got a 501 that rules |
| 01:26.44 | key2 | _DAW: well hp 2524 doenst have Gig eth ? |
| 01:26.47 | count | and the conference phone |
| 01:26.49 | count | forget the model # |
| 01:26.49 | doughecka_ | bkw_: ok, its 201 USD for a 7940 |
| 01:27.44 | _DAW | key2 - They have optional gig tranceivers |
| 01:28.01 | litage | is the *-compatible hardware listed at http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=hardware up to date? |
| 01:28.14 | pcm | litage: why ? |
| 01:28.22 | pcm | littage: what are you looking for ? |
| 01:28.39 | litage | pcm: if there's new hardware that's available/compatible, i'd like to take them into consideration |
| 01:28.42 | key2 | bkw_: what did you make for the PA168 |
| 01:28.42 | key2 | ? |
| 01:28.43 | bgb39201 | are polycom good quality overall? sipura 841 dial pad keys kept sticking... |
| 01:28.53 | doolph | where can I get professional earphone for under $20 |
| 01:28.58 | pcm | litage: but what interface are you looking for ? |
| 01:28.58 | litage | pcm: i'm not looking for anything specific...yet |
| 01:28.59 | _DAW | bgb- polycom is a great sip phone |
| 01:29.15 | _DAW | support sucks though :( |
| 01:29.37 | doolph | who care about support |
| 01:29.56 | doolph | read manuals |
| 01:30.08 | _DAW | not really support but you cant get firmware legit. |
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| 01:30.26 | litage | pcm: i first have to figure out what type of hardware i need.. |
| 01:30.27 | doolph | oh that |
| 01:30.40 | kFuQ | http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/deepimpact_front/index.html |
| 01:30.41 | SarahEmm | doolph: earphone? |
| 01:30.58 | SarahEmm | headset you mean? |
| 01:31.05 | denon | anyone in .au awake? |
| 01:31.22 | litage | denon: ahoy hoy |
| 01:31.34 | doolph | yea |
| 01:31.42 | doolph | but professional one |
| 01:31.45 | key2 | bkw_ ? dead ? |
| 01:31.50 | doolph | not those cheap fakes |
| 01:31.56 | bgb39201 | i'll look into the polycom, and hope i don't run into issues :) |
| 01:32.08 | bgb39201 | thanks |
| 01:32.11 | pcm | litage: take your time :) |
| 01:32.23 | doolph | bgb39201 are you looking for ip phones? |
| 01:32.31 | SarahEmm | doolph: define 'professional'. voice tube? |
| 01:32.35 | bgb39201 | doolph: yes |
| 01:32.37 | _DAW | bgb- pm me with issues if you like.. I use several... |
| 01:32.41 | litage | pcm: i believe i'll need some FXO and FXS cards, but i first have to learn why and how =P |
| 01:32.45 | doolph | yes those one |
| 01:32.52 | doolph | bgb39201 what price are you looking fore |
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| 01:33.20 | count | he said <$300 didn't he? |
| 01:33.52 | bgb39201 | well, looking at phone under $300 (Canadian btw) |
| 01:34.10 | count | Thta's like $3.50 USD right? |
| 01:34.16 | count | might be hard to find a phone for that |
| 01:34.16 | count | :) |
| 01:34.17 | bgb39201 | the polycom sound find |
| 01:34.19 | SarahEmm | count: i wish! not that much. |
| 01:34.20 | SarahEmm | ;) |
| 01:34.21 | bgb39201 | :) |
| 01:34.22 | count | Hah |
| 01:34.49 | count | Silly exchange rate |
| 01:34.55 | count | It'd go better if you guys made drugs faster |
| 01:35.25 | key2 | a zyxel wifi sip phone for $100 is ok ? |
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| 01:35.47 | bgb39201 | count: yeah, they better start cranking it out faster ;) |
| 01:35.51 | count | heh |
| 01:36.09 | SarahEmm | key2: lol |
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| 01:36.15 | SarahEmm | key2: they've had only bad reviews from what i've heard |
| 01:36.41 | count | wifi and voice just never seems like a good idea to me :) |
| 01:36.46 | count | get an ATA and a 900mhz phone |
| 01:38.31 | count | I guess he had enough :( |
| 01:41.18 | key2 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=61840&item=5785730843&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW |
| 01:41.21 | key2 | hurry up guys |
| 01:41.22 | key2 | :) |
| 01:41.28 | key2 | 2 min left |
| 01:41.29 | key2 | ! |
| 01:41.50 | SarahEmm | doolph: mew? |
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| 01:41.56 | mxmasster | hi all |
| 01:42.01 | ardor | hi maxm |
| 01:42.31 | mxmasster | i need help with ser... mainly an explaination of where ser fits in the picture and where/why i would use it |
| 01:42.38 | key2 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=61840&item=5785730843&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW |
| 01:43.18 | SarahEmm | we saw it already key |
| 01:43.26 | doolph | yes new |
| 01:43.40 | SarahEmm | doolph: i think asking for 'professional' headsets for $20 is a little much |
| 01:43.49 | _DAW | mxmasster- http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-print.php?page=Asterisk+at+large |
| 01:44.22 | ardor | I'm install asterisk on a new box, I get the `ZT_EVENT_DTMFDIGIT' undeclared error, which on the message board it says to cvs update my zaptel, which i do by going to my /usr/src/zaptel cvs update after which i still get the same error |
| 01:44.45 | ardor | any idea what I'm doing wrong, I take it I'm doing the cvs update wrong. |
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| 01:46.05 | _DAW | ardor - did your restart astersisk completely? |
| 01:46.22 | ardor | i just installed the OS on this system |
| 01:46.27 | ardor | fedora core 2. |
| 01:47.54 | SarahEmm | ardor: did you compile and install the zaptel? |
| 01:47.57 | SarahEmm | or just get new source? |
| 01:48.05 | ardor | compile and install |
| 01:48.10 | ardor | libpri also |
| 01:48.17 | SarahEmm | okay :) |
| 01:48.19 | SarahEmm | just checking |
| 01:49.34 | ardor | in my /usr/src/asterisk I do a make clean; make install |
| 01:50.52 | ardor | maybe I'm not downloading the stable asterisk? |
| 01:55.06 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 01:55.19 | SarahEmm | i *so* need that mp3 of homer simpson pretending to be onhold music as my MOH ;) |
| 01:55.28 | ardor | lol |
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| 01:57.40 | tzanger | SarahEmm: hahaha |
| 01:57.47 | tzanger | someone here has spanish flea |
| 01:58.40 | ardor | ok it worked |
| 01:58.51 | travelingpcguy | I have spanish Fly.... and a bucket of oysters |
| 01:58.53 | ardor | I did this 'cvs checkout -r v1-0 zaptel libpri asterisk asterisk-addons asterisk-sounds' |
| 01:59.19 | tzanger | travelingpcguy: hahaha |
| 01:59.45 | SarahEmm | ardor: err, did the mailinglist say to upgrade to STABLE or HEAD CVS? |
| 01:59.47 | SarahEmm | that's Stable |
| 02:00.01 | ardor | i think before i wasn;t doing stable |
| 02:00.04 | ardor | i dont know |
| 02:00.18 | _DAW | ardor - I dont think you were |
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| 02:15.10 | rv_weasel | this is so wierd, the line one on my ata will not ring. i can pick it up while an extention is calling, call waiting works. but it will not ring. line 2 is perfect. |
| 02:15.52 | rv_weasel | i have done a reset on the ATA, it worked before. so asterisk seems to be ringing it 'funny' |
| 02:19.25 | rv_weasel | anyone have any ideas? |
| 02:20.06 | pcm | rv: connect a multimeter to your ata ... |
| 02:20.23 | pcm | rv: and see if the voltage changes when it rings .... |
| 02:22.25 | key2 | pcm: ur msn is down ? |
| 02:24.08 | rv_weasel | i have connected 2 different phones |
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| 02:24.53 | rv_weasel | let me find a junk cord |
| 02:25.43 | litage | so you connect a phone to an FXS, and a PSTN to an FXO? |
| 02:26.10 | rv_weasel | litage: correct |
| 02:26.32 | litage | what exactly does this mean?: An FXS interface provides power (battery) and generates ring signals |
| 02:27.08 | rv_weasel | 26V on ring |
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| 02:28.07 | rv_weasel | line 2 is 50V |
| 02:28.09 | litage | why does an FXO only receive ring signals? if calling a phone that's behind an FXS, wouldn't the FXO need to send a ring signal to the FXS, and then the ring gets passed to the attached phone? |
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| 02:30.32 | travelingpcguy | Remember that * mamages the interfaces in reverse of what you might think. |
| 02:30.49 | travelingpcguy | FXS is where the phone line comes in.... |
| 02:30.53 | travelingpcguy | Etc. |
| 02:31.11 | rv_weasel | so why would my ring voltage be so low? |
| 02:31.21 | litage | travelingpcguy: i haven't read that yet. would you mind pointing me to where i can read up on that? |
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| 02:32.31 | travelingpcguy | The wiki is clear on this matter |
| 02:32.46 | litage | travelingpcguy: where exactly in the wiki? i'm |
| 02:33.00 | litage | oops =P i'm happy to read, but haven't found the article with that info |
| 02:33.41 | SarahEmm | sleeeepies. nini all |
| 02:33.50 | litage | SarahEmm: cya later alligator |
| 02:33.59 | Himeko | fxo doesn't generate a ring singnal |
| 02:34.24 | SarahEmm | litage: cya later... uhh... litigator? |
| 02:34.45 | litage | SarahEmm: bah! totally wrong! :) "in a while crocodile" |
| 02:35.01 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 02:35.03 | SarahEmm | okauy ;) |
| 02:35.21 | rv_weasel | so why is this thing not ringing right |
| 02:35.49 | rv_weasel | is asterisk doing a distinctive ring on it? |
| 02:35.53 | litage | Himeko: i've read that, but don't understand why. if the FXO doesn't generate a ring, how does the FXS know when to ring? |
| 02:36.42 | Himeko | the fxo tells whatever is managing the sistem the phone is ringing |
| 02:36.47 | Himeko | er system |
| 02:37.10 | Himeko | like * in this case |
| 02:38.08 | Himeko | if the fxo sent an actual ring signal though the pci bus i am sure it would fry everything |
| 02:38.57 | litage | ah |
| 02:40.01 | litage | so if you want to hook up phones to make non-PSTN-terminating calls, you only need FXSs? |
| 02:41.08 | Himeko | phones hook into fxs's, telco line hooks into fxo |
| 02:42.12 | litage | right |
| 02:42.30 | Himeko | i have only an ata in my house and i make pstn terminating calls |
| 02:42.50 | travelingpcguy | So, FXO is for connecting to "office" |
| 02:42.56 | litage | Himeko: how do you make PSTN-terminating calls without an FXO? |
| 02:43.09 | litage | travelingpcguy: connecting to "office"? |
| 02:43.30 | travelingpcguy | They receive Voltage and Send Off-Hook Signaling |
| 02:44.02 | Himeko | the ata connects to a * box in a building dt and goes out to the telco over pri |
| 02:44.12 | litage | Himeko: ignore my question =P |
| 02:44.16 | Himeko | ok |
| 02:44.20 | Himeko | too late though |
| 02:44.36 | litage | Himeko: your voip provider does the PSTN-terminating for you |
| 02:44.55 | litage | right? |
| 02:45.01 | travelingpcguy | They can |
| 02:45.02 | Himeko | yes |
| 02:45.06 | travelingpcguy | If you like |
| 02:45.34 | travelingpcguy | Or you can use an "FXO" card and terminate to a POTS (Plain old telephone service). |
| 02:45.41 | travelingpcguy | line |
| 02:45.50 | Himeko | i don't have a pots line though |
| 02:45.55 | litage | what's the difference between a POTS and PSTN? |
| 02:46.12 | litage | s/?/line?/ |
| 02:46.18 | travelingpcguy | The PSTN is the entire CO network |
| 02:46.36 | travelingpcguy | The POTS line is the single line that your local phone company brings to you home. |
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| 02:46.44 | litage | ah makes sense |
| 02:46.48 | litage | what's a CO network? |
| 02:47.00 | travelingpcguy | What country are you in? |
| 02:47.09 | litage | australia and canada |
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| 02:47.18 | travelingpcguy | It is Verizon, SBC, Bell South, etc, etc, etc.... |
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| 02:47.25 | travelingpcguy | Bell Canada |
| 02:47.48 | litage | what does CO stand for? |
| 02:47.56 | Himeko | crap, the time is wrong on my digicam, all the pics i took today are dated 1979 |
| 02:48.15 | travelingpcguy | the PSTN are all the local carriers connected.... Some people use the term PSTN in properly to describe their POTS line. |
| 02:48.17 | litage | Himeko: just `touch` all of them |
| 02:48.32 | Himeko | ya, but time is wrong too |
| 02:48.34 | litage | travelingpcguy: gotcha. thanks |
| 02:48.36 | travelingpcguy | Central Office = CO |
| 02:48.42 | litage | thanks |
| 02:48.50 | litage | Himeko: you can set the time if you want |
| 02:49.22 | Himeko | hmm |
| 02:49.27 | Himeko | the date is right on the cam |
| 02:49.28 | travelingpcguy | You can connect to the PSTN in many ways, PRI, E-1, T-1, POTS, ISDN (2B-D), or via a SIP or IAX-2-PSTN provider. |
| 02:49.32 | Himeko | i wonder what happened |
| 02:49.41 | litage | Himeko: see the -a and -B options for `touch` |
| 02:50.08 | Himeko | i mean to get the actual correct time each shot was taken |
| 02:50.30 | Inv_arp | hmm whos a good iax inbound provider now? voicepulse... |
| 02:50.32 | litage | travelingpcguy: right. i'll have to look into the differences between all of those |
| 02:50.50 | litage | Himeko: is your system time correct? |
| 02:51.02 | Himeko | n/m, it must just have been the default date adobe bridge uses before it reads in the actual info |
| 02:52.20 | litage | so if you're in stateX and you want a local phone number in stateY, you don't need an FXO, right? |
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| 02:54.00 | travelingpcguy | Litage: Depends on who you get you numbers from... |
| 02:54.15 | litage | travelingpcguy: why's that? |
| 02:54.18 | travelingpcguy | Say you're in Aus. and wanted to get phone calls from Canada |
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| 02:55.16 | travelingpcguy | You can get you Canada phone number from a SIP provider in Canade, and register your asterisk server is Austrillia to that provider.... That would get you local calls from canada delivered to Aus. |
| 02:56.09 | litage | travelingpcguy: right, but you wouldn't need an FXO for that setup since your provider will send your canada calls over the internet |
| 02:56.15 | SwK | gotta friend in .nz thats from the states and he has u.s. DIDs delivered to him in .nz |
| 02:56.22 | travelingpcguy | OR if you have an office in Canada and wanted the same arrangement discussed above.... You could use an FXO device and simply plugin a phone line from tyhe local phone company and the calls will ring in to Aus. |
| 02:56.36 | travelingpcguy | Right to your question. |
| 02:57.39 | travelingpcguy | The question is how many calls do you expect, how much do you want to spend, is there a provider that offers local numbers to the area that your wanting to get calls from? |
| 02:57.56 | litage | travelingpcguy: ah i see! basically the difference between those 2 scenarios is who sends the canada-call over the internet: you or your provider...right? |
| 02:58.05 | travelingpcguy | Also, is there a place you can place hardware in Canada? |
| 02:58.17 | travelingpcguy | Right! |
| 02:58.57 | travelingpcguy | I am in Missouri, and there have been no providers in a long time that provide VOIP direct service that are a local call to my area. |
| 02:58.58 | litage | wouldn't one usually want their provider to send the call over the internet, since the provider almost always has a better connection, more resources, better uptime, etc? |
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| 02:59.25 | file[laptop] | that could be a source of debate |
| 02:59.29 | litage | hahah |
| 03:00.00 | travelingpcguy | It would cost my callers a toll call to call my business if I used a VOIP provider, since they don't offer a local number to my area, so an FXO gateway is better for me. |
| 03:00.20 | litage | travelingpcguy: ah! so in the scenario you described earlier, if your provider can't grab your canada phone number, you'd do it yourself and send the call over the internet |
| 03:00.40 | travelingpcguy | Also, I use a PT-2-PT OS3 to carry my traffic, so no... I preffer to carry my own traffic. |
| 03:00.40 | litage | right right. awesome possum. |
| 03:00.57 | travelingpcguy | You got it! |
| 03:01.03 | litage | PT-2-PT? |
| 03:01.12 | travelingpcguy | potin to point |
| 03:01.23 | Himeko | bah, i hate chromatic abberation |
| 03:01.31 | travelingpcguy | point to point, I can't spell |
| 03:01.42 | litage | point to potion |
| 03:01.45 | litage | mmm potions |
| 03:02.20 | litage | thanks for that info, travelingpcguy |
| 03:02.26 | travelingpcguy | I am one of the "lucky" ones... I knew voice B4 VOIP was here. |
| 03:02.29 | travelingpcguy | No problem |
| 03:03.03 | travelingpcguy | I have 50 sites that all carry to one call center, it saves me thousands a month... this is a tried and proven method! Good Luck! |
| 03:04.22 | litage | hah danke |
| 03:04.45 | litage | travelingpcguy: and they all use *? |
| 03:04.52 | tessier_ | Anyone here know much about radius? I am trying to decide whether to do all of our AAA through radius or through our own code. |
| 03:05.14 | count | What about radius |
| 03:05.18 | tessier_ | I am inclined to do it our own way as radius seems like another huge learning curve when we already know what it is that we need to do. |
| 03:05.27 | travelingpcguy | As an end point... the Home site is Nortel with eth call center. I use * as the end point to pick up the call and manage transport. |
| 03:05.45 | count | tessier_: only rule is to use what works best for you :) |
| 03:06.00 | tessier_ | count: That's the problem: We do not yet know. |
| 03:06.23 | litage | travelingpcguy: earlier, you said "You can connect to the PSTN in many ways, PRI, E-1, T-1, POTS, ISDN (2B-D), or via a SIP or IAX-2-PSTN provider" |
| 03:06.26 | tessier_ | I have one employee pushing hard for radius. He's a good talker. But I think that radius is the only way he has done it and he is afraid to try anything else. |
| 03:06.30 | travelingpcguy | Radius is fairly easy... look into "Bullet Proof Radius" |
| 03:06.39 | litage | travelingpcguy: is there any reason you didn't mention H323-to-PSTN provider? |
| 03:06.41 | count | tessier_: what are you trying to do? |
| 03:06.41 | travelingpcguy | Yes I did |
| 03:07.41 | travelingpcguy | Litage: Your Question? |
| 03:07.45 | tessier_ | count: We are building a voip platform (like everyone else here). We have a big web interface and API to control it all, provision clients, bill clients, set up plans, least cost route, the whole deal. Not quite finished yet though, we need to hook a lot of things together and implement a lot more business logic. |
| 03:08.19 | travelingpcguy | Not w/ Radius.. Not easily! I may have spoken early! |
| 03:08.22 | travelingpcguy | :-) |
| 03:08.31 | litage | travelingpcguy: just sent it in the priv chat |
| 03:08.33 | tessier_ | count: It is being proposed that we use radius for all of our AAA. To determine what plan the user is, whether he can make the call he is trying to make (it's in the plan, he has minutes available etc) deliver cdrs, etc. |
| 03:08.42 | tessier_ | travelingpcguy: Why not with radius? |
| 03:10.20 | tzanger | jerjer believes that radius is the wrong answer for voip but I've been unable to understand why just yet |
| 03:10.35 | tzanger | it's used for dialup and is very successful there, voip isn't really that much different |
| 03:10.41 | Luke-Jr | If I write a patch to allow priorities of +# and -# (offsets from the last priority) and making a null priority the same as +1, would it be accepted? |
| 03:10.51 | tzanger | Luke-Jr: doubtful |
| 03:10.53 | Luke-Jr | (assuming good code and stuff) |
| 03:10.55 | Luke-Jr | tzafrir: why? |
| 03:11.00 | tzanger | what's wrong with n(something) that's there now? |
| 03:11.09 | tzanger | it's far more flexible and no counting |
| 03:11.14 | count | counting is hard |
| 03:11.17 | Luke-Jr | tzafrir: n(something)?? |
| 03:11.18 | tessier_ | tzanger: I think voip probably is quite a bit different. Dialup is just straight login, authenticate, authorize, logoff, account minutes. |
| 03:11.21 | tzanger | take it from the count. :-) |
| 03:11.32 | tessier_ | VOIP has plans, carriers, cdrs, in plan and out of plan minutes, pre-pay, all kinds of stuff. |
| 03:11.37 | count | :) |
| 03:11.42 | tzanger | tessier_: the only real difference with VOIP is the fact that you have billable vs total minutes |
| 03:11.46 | tzanger | Luke-Jr: yeah |
| 03:11.53 | tzanger | exten => s,1,blah |
| 03:12.00 | count | tessier_: I'd use radius, and backend my radius server with custom app logic |
| 03:12.05 | Luke-Jr | tzafrir: harder to insert a priority |
| 03:12.07 | count | that way you keep your interconnections 'standard' |
| 03:12.08 | tzanger | exten => s,n,gotoif(condition?gohere:gothere) |
| 03:12.09 | Luke-Jr | tzafrir: need to renumber |
| 03:12.15 | tzanger | exten => n(gohere),blah |
| 03:12.21 | tzanger | exten => s,n,blah2 |
| 03:12.27 | tzanger | exten => s,n(gothere),blah |
| 03:12.31 | tzanger | exten => s,n,blah2 |
| 03:12.32 | tzanger | etc |
| 03:12.54 | Luke-Jr | tzafrir: still need to renumber a lot when inserting in a long dialplan |
| 03:13.39 | tzanger | Luke-Jr: no you don |
| 03:13.40 | tzanger | 't |
| 03:13.45 | tzanger | not with n and n(label) |
| 03:13.50 | tzanger | there's no renumbering |
| 03:13.55 | tzanger | because .. well there are no numbers! |
| 03:13.59 | travelingpcguy | Radius... No because the limited fields and the way it integrates to Active directory... |
| 03:14.03 | Luke-Jr | oh... a literal 'n'? |
| 03:14.12 | tzanger | yes a literal 'n' |
| 03:14.14 | travelingpcguy | You will eventually want to do forms based Authentication. |
| 03:14.14 | tzanger | for 'next' |
| 03:14.27 | Luke-Jr | does n+50 work? |
| 03:14.31 | tzanger | yes |
| 03:14.37 | tzanger | why would you do that though |
| 03:14.39 | tzanger | seriously |
| 03:14.44 | tzanger | use n(some_label) |
| 03:14.48 | tzanger | and then goto(some_lable) |
| 03:14.55 | tzanger | assuming it's spelled right it'll just work |
| 03:15.02 | tzanger | extensions reload figures it all out for you |
| 03:15.07 | Luke-Jr | tzafrir: some apps jump to +50 |
| 03:15.13 | tzanger | Luke-Jr: ... which? |
| 03:15.20 | Luke-Jr | tzafrir: EnumLookup? |
| 03:15.21 | tzanger | I've only seen n+101 |
| 03:15.30 | Luke-Jr | well, 50 was an example |
| 03:15.39 | Luke-Jr | I think it's 101 or 51 or such |
| 03:15.39 | Inv_arp | hmm whos a good iax inbound provider now.. |
| 03:15.40 | tzanger | Luke-Jr: there is talk of eliminating all that anyway |
| 03:15.54 | tzanger | anyway I gotta get to bed |
| 03:15.55 | tzanger | later all |
| 03:16.10 | tessier_ | count: Custom app logic? What does that mean exactly? |
| 03:16.37 | count | Use RADIUS to handle the communication and stuff, but have your RADIUS server talk to your app for directions? |
| 03:16.38 | tessier_ | count: Can you write custom code for your radius server to implement the logic or what? |
| 03:16.49 | count | I use RADIUS that hits my LDAP directory for user auth |
| 03:16.51 | count | for example |
| 03:17.17 | count | RADIUS is a well accepted standard for that kind of crap |
| 03:17.25 | count | but that doesn't mean you gotta use it as-is |
| 03:17.26 | count | :) |
| 03:19.53 | travelingpcguy | True, true! |
| 03:20.21 | travelingpcguy | But it becomes a learning curve to change it, which as I recall the question was dervived from. |
| 03:21.54 | travelingpcguy | <tessier_> I am inclined to do it our own way as radius seems like another huge learning curve when we already know what it is that we need to do. |
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| 03:24.57 | Nivex | voipsupply.com is reporting that the Polycom phones are "not supported under Asterisk". I assume by this they mean the phones will work, but they will hang up on you if you ask about it. |
| 03:25.21 | count | Polycom phones don't do IAX maybe? |
| 03:25.29 | count | I'm using a 501 with * via SIP right now |
| 03:25.48 | count | Polycom probably won't answer tech support calls about it though, yeah? |
| 03:26.00 | file[laptop] | Nivex: you are quite correct |
| 03:26.06 | file[laptop] | say you use Asterisk, and you're disowned! |
| 03:26.11 | file[laptop] | or rather your phone is |
| 03:26.52 | count | just say 'I dont know what my SIP provider uses' |
| 03:26.53 | count | haha |
| 03:27.08 | WilliamK | file, I've been trying to get ABP to work with Polycom to encourage PolyCom support - I do however know the President of ABP and Polycom are talking... |
| 03:27.34 | Nivex | I'm weighing the IP501, the GXP-2000, and the SPA-841 |
| 03:27.51 | Nivex | which is kinda difficult having never laid hands on any of them |
| 03:28.16 | file[laptop] | I hate the keypad and LCD on the SPA-841, IP501 is very nice, and the GXP-2000 is decent... some parts are cheap on it |
| 03:28.56 | count | GXP-2000 === stay away |
| 03:28.59 | count | == even |
| 03:29.07 | count | the speaker phone sounds like trash |
| 03:29.19 | file[laptop] | well duh, it's cheap |
| 03:29.26 | count | yeah, you REALLY get what you pay for |
| 03:29.29 | file[laptop] | what is with everyone who comes here expecting the world for cheap |
| 03:29.38 | file[laptop] | or better, free |
| 03:29.39 | count | man |
| 03:29.46 | file[laptop] | it's increased lately... |
| 03:29.46 | count | Did I say I expected the world? |
| 03:29.51 | count | I'm saying don't buy that phone |
| 03:29.53 | count | because it sucks |
| 03:29.55 | count | I paid for it |
| 03:30.02 | count | and threw it out and got a polycom 501 |
| 03:30.06 | count | and am super happy now |
| 03:30.12 | file[laptop] | if you want good speakerphones, get a Polycom or Cisco |
| 03:30.25 | count | Where were you when I wasted my time with the GXP ? :) |
| 03:30.26 | Nivex | I've not heard a single bad thing about Polycom |
| 03:30.31 | count | I'm trying to save him the problems! |
| 03:31.18 | count | Nivex: They sound awesome with ulaw or g729, and have incredible amount of flexibility in their configuration files |
| 03:31.28 | count | I don't have a cisco to compare against yet though |
| 03:31.31 | count | so I can't judge that one |
| 03:31.42 | count | but it's WAY worth the price difference over the GXP |
| 03:32.05 | tessier_ | I'm not too impressed with Cisco. |
| 03:32.10 | count | I wish they would release the 501 with a color screen |
| 03:32.12 | count | that would rule |
| 03:32.18 | count | or at least a backlight |
| 03:32.19 | Nivex | I've been reluctant to spend the money since I'm just playing with this stuff for my own learning |
| 03:32.32 | count | Nivex: just use a free softphone? |
| 03:32.44 | Nivex | count: I've been using an ATA |
| 03:32.49 | count | That works too |
| 03:33.24 | Nivex | I went to the store today to get a POTS speakerphone. It was crap and I had to take it back. |
| 03:43.40 | DA-MAN | iis there a free softphone i can use with a bluetooth headset |
| 03:44.59 | DA-MAN | on mac or win |
| 03:45.07 | count | bluetooth headset? |
| 03:45.21 | count | isn't that just a normal mic/headphone ? |
| 03:46.12 | DA-MAN | not sure, right now i only have it hooked up to my blackberry |
| 03:46.31 | DA-MAN | i plan on buying a usb bluetooth for either my desktop or laptop and using it for voip via my asterisk box |
| 03:47.10 | count | depends on what you buy I guess |
| 03:47.25 | count | you can get just standard mic/headphone bluetooth headsets for mac and win |
| 03:47.27 | count | and they 'should' work with any app |
| 03:47.45 | count | if you want special features |
| 03:47.48 | count | like voicedial or whatever |
| 03:47.50 | count | I doubt it |
| 03:49.06 | DA-MAN | naw just wanna use bt headset, like the mot hs810 0or somethin |
| 03:49.21 | count | should 'just work' |
| 03:49.21 | count | ha |
| 03:55.35 | tessier_ | hmm |
| 03:55.50 | tessier_ | I've been googling for JerJer's anti-radius comments but as usual he does a lot of bitching but presents little useful information |
| 03:56.18 | tessier_ | As far as I can tell he has only made general accusations of over-complexity and adding another layer of overhead and failure. |
| 04:08.44 | litage | is a PRI/BRI/E1 line just a snazzy-fast connection to an ISP? |
| 04:09.32 | count | heh |
| 04:09.33 | count | no |
| 04:09.47 | litage | count: would you mind enlightening me? =) |
| 04:09.51 | count | PRI/BRI/E1 don't neccesarily have anything to do with ISPs at all |
| 04:10.07 | count | They're part of the TDM Digital Services network |
| 04:10.09 | count | hold on |
| 04:10.11 | PatrickDK | ya, cable company :) |
| 04:10.36 | PatrickDK | and maybe at some time the power company too |
| 04:10.39 | count | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-carrier |
| 04:10.43 | count | There you go litage |
| 04:10.49 | count | substitue E for T |
| 04:10.52 | count | and it's Euro |
| 04:10.54 | count | basically |
| 04:11.00 | count | the exact numbers are different |
| 04:11.03 | PatrickDK | J1 :) |
| 04:11.05 | count | but the principles are the same |
| 04:11.28 | count | J1 is the same as the T1 |
| 04:11.32 | litage | thanks count |
| 04:11.34 | count | J system changes at J3 |
| 04:11.44 | count | J3 = 480 channels |
| 04:11.48 | count | T3 is 672 |
| 04:12.04 | PatrickDK | yep, I never really understood the reson behind that |
| 04:12.09 | count | gotta be different |
| 04:12.15 | count | at least they weren't like the crazy euros |
| 04:12.22 | count | although, in honesty |
| 04:12.27 | count | the E carriers make more numerical sense |
| 04:12.39 | PatrickDK | on a binary system |
| 04:12.42 | count | 32, 128, 512, 2048, 8192 |
| 04:12.43 | count | yeah |
| 04:12.52 | count | wtf they picked 24 channels for a T1 |
| 04:12.53 | count | is beyond me |
| 04:13.04 | count | I guess the original telco gear was not 32bit |
| 04:13.13 | count | the VAX was what, 18? |
| 04:13.16 | PatrickDK | nope |
| 04:13.24 | count | 8? |
| 04:13.25 | PatrickDK | no idea what vax is |
| 04:13.25 | count | 11? |
| 04:13.29 | count | I know it was wierd |
| 04:13.30 | PatrickDK | probably 12 |
| 04:14.09 | count | 8 |
| 04:14.12 | PatrickDK | apple ][gs was 20bit I think |
| 04:14.17 | count | Manufacturer: Digital Equipment Corporation |
| 04:14.17 | count | Byte size: 8 bits |
| 04:14.18 | count | Address bus size: 32 bits |
| 04:14.29 | PatrickDK | oh heh, addressbus was 20bit |
| 04:14.33 | PatrickDK | data was 16 |
| 04:14.45 | PatrickDK | hmm, vax actually had 32bit address? |
| 04:14.54 | count | hrm |
| 04:14.54 | PatrickDK | did all of them have pins for them? |
| 04:15.02 | PatrickDK | unlike intel's cpu's :) |
| 04:15.26 | count | haha |
| 04:15.38 | count | "VAX" was originally an acronym for Virtual Address eXtension, because the VAX was seen as a 32-bit extension of the older 16-bit PDP-11; early versions of the VAX processor implemented a "compatibility mode" that emulated many of the PDP-11's instructions |
| 04:15.43 | count | hrm |
| 04:15.45 | PatrickDK | nothing like a 32 adress lines, and you can only put in 256megs memory, cause of pin limits |
| 04:15.48 | count | I question the validity of that |
| 04:15.59 | count | because I could have sworn that the vax used some wierd # |
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| 04:18.02 | count | huh, I guess it was 16/32 |
| 04:18.42 | PatrickDK | that is still alittle odd |
| 04:18.49 | PatrickDK | kinda like the 80286 :) |
| 04:19.16 | count | well |
| 04:19.30 | count | it was 1978 |
| 04:19.32 | PatrickDK | 16/24 |
| 04:20.05 | PatrickDK | hmm, back then I was still using ti99/4a |
| 04:20.12 | PatrickDK | nothing like hmm, 8bit :) |
| 04:20.33 | PatrickDK | I think I even had the 16k mem expantion module that was 14"x14"x1.5" |
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| 04:21.56 | count | old ass |
| 04:22.12 | count | in 1978 |
| 04:22.15 | count | haha |
| 04:22.25 | count | I think my mom graduated highschool in 78 |
| 04:22.36 | PatrickDK | heh |
| 04:22.48 | PatrickDK | well, not really old ass, I was 1 year old |
| 04:22.56 | PatrickDK | but I was programming on it at age of 8 |
| 04:23.05 | PatrickDK | I'm sure I started using it around 4 or 5 |
| 04:23.10 | count | still old! |
| 04:23.13 | count | thats almost 30! |
| 04:23.23 | PatrickDK | 27/28 |
| 04:23.34 | count | which rounds up to 30 |
| 04:24.01 | PatrickDK | hmm, I didn't see the decimal point |
| 04:24.21 | count | Dont be so exacting |
| 04:24.30 | count | only speak in multiples of 5 or 10 |
| 04:24.38 | PatrickDK | math is an exact science :) |
| 04:25.30 | count | Math isn't a science! |
| 04:29.29 | litage | what's an "E&M trunk" or "E&M T1 to office PBX"? |
| 04:29.48 | PatrickDK | e&m is a special connection to a pbx |
| 04:29.58 | PatrickDK | it's basically the mic and speaker ports off a phone |
| 04:30.11 | PatrickDK | though there is some special signalling |
| 04:30.55 | trym | god damnit |
| 04:30.56 | trym | cant sleep |
| 04:31.08 | count | litage needs to grab a copy of Newton's Telecomm dictionary |
| 04:31.08 | count | :) |
| 04:31.13 | litage | hahha |
| 04:31.30 | litage | what does E&M stand for? i couldn't find it in voip-info's wiki |
| 04:31.51 | PatrickDK | ear and mic |
| 04:32.41 | pcm | earm & mouth |
| 04:32.44 | pcm | ear |
| 04:32.52 | PatrickDK | heh, close |
| 04:33.16 | PatrickDK | I forgot someone might be using tin cans instead of electricity |
| 04:38.23 | pcm | hehe :) |
| 04:38.32 | pcm | that's me :) when I was a kid :) |
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| 04:44.57 | Tenkawa | evening all |
| 04:45.15 | tessier_ | E&M stands for Ernie and Mike |
| 04:45.19 | tessier_ | The dudes who invented the pbx. |
| 04:45.27 | count | hahaha |
| 04:45.47 | trym | Im looking for a working extension for agents to login etc.. cant seem to find it on voip-info.. anyone seen something like that around? |
| 04:46.07 | count | ? |
| 04:46.39 | DA-MAN | what about the B&E pbx? |
| 04:46.50 | tessier_ | Barry and Eddy? |
| 04:47.00 | trym | count: I might not be explaining myself perfectly.. Im sleep deprived |
| 04:47.06 | tessier_ | They were pretty sharp but they were no Ernie and Mike |
| 04:47.17 | DarthClue | trym: what kind of working extension? |
| 04:47.19 | count | S&M PBX |
| 04:47.29 | count | trym: recompose your thoughts :) |
| 04:47.36 | tessier_ | Sado-Masochism PBX? Now you are just being silly. |
| 04:47.38 | trym | im trying.. so much pain.. hehe |
| 04:47.40 | PatrickDK | trym, disa? |
| 04:48.04 | count | tessier_: sick mind! |
| 04:48.12 | DA-MAN | was thinkin bert and ernie myself |
| 04:48.19 | trym | well.. I guess I was trying to say.. I havent got this agent thing right yet.. and It would be nice to see an extension.conf that has functionality that allows agents to type in their agentnumber and pin (to log in) |
| 04:48.39 | trym | i want to use AgentCallbackLogin |
| 04:49.05 | DarthClue | trym: maybe something like this ... http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Agents+without+agent+channel |
| 04:49.19 | trym | That reminds me.. do I define which phone number an agent has.. or is that usually set when the agents logs in ? |
| 04:49.30 | trym | thanks ill have a look |
| 04:49.48 | DarthClue | or start here and go thru the see also links ... http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Agents |
| 04:50.51 | trym | without agent channel.. whats the basic difference? |
| 04:51.01 | DarthClue | agent extensions are tied to phone extensions. depending on how you do it, the extension is set in the appropriate conf file (sip, iax, etc.) and the extension is associated with the agent at the time of login. |
| 04:51.26 | file[laptop] | DarthClue: back to work slacker! |
| 04:51.27 | DarthClue | trym: i have heard that chan_agent has some funkiness to it. hence, without the agent channel, you get better results. |
| 04:51.36 | trym | sounds very nice |
| 04:51.49 | DarthClue | file: i was here at 4 am when you were in bed. so be careful who you call a slacker. |
| 04:52.03 | trym | hope it can be easily tweaked to support "#" answer verification |
| 04:52.24 | DarthClue | trym: i'm sure it can. |
| 04:53.25 | pcm | darth: do you swim along with sharks ? :) |
| 04:53.53 | DarthClue | pcm: no, stuck to the pool today. Don't care to try and explain the loss of a limb to the big giant head. |
| 04:56.23 | trym | DarthClue: in that agents without agent channel example. You define agents to certain extensions. If the agents has cell phones, I just make extensions that dial their numbers? |
| 04:57.08 | DarthClue | trym: yep. |
| 04:57.45 | beto75_ | Darth,, you miss some competitors out there :D |
| 04:58.00 | trym | DarthClue: Nice. Do I need anything else but Dial() ? |
| 04:58.15 | DarthClue | beto75: do what? |
| 04:58.25 | beto75_ | sharks |
| 04:58.49 | DA-MAN | what about landharks? |
| 04:59.03 | DarthClue | trym: it all depends on what you want to do with it. since it is dialplan logic, it is pretty easy to do just about anything. |
| 04:59.26 | beto75_ | Vonage, MCI, AT&T and other white sharkies :) |
| 04:59.47 | DarthClue | beto75: sharks can't compete in oklahoma...to blody hot. DA-MAN: landsharsk are pussies and just get run over when they get in the way. |
| 05:00.17 | DarthClue | beto: as for those other sharkies: they aren't really competition, but they may soon be customers if i can swing the sledgehammer hard enough. |
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| 05:01.00 | DA-MAN | DarthClue, as a person who has an addy @landshark.net I resent that |
| 05:01.01 | DA-MAN | hehe |
| 05:01.42 | DarthClue | DA-MAN: just don't get in my way and we will get along just fine. |
| 05:01.49 | DA-MAN | rofl |
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| 05:10.04 | file | SLACKER! |
| 05:10.24 | DA-MAN | string /dev/fireworks > output.fw |
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| 05:13.18 | DA-MAN | Noooo!!!!! |
| 05:16.21 | file | what, it takes you that long to get your action on? |
| 05:17.08 | beto75_ | guys , may be a dumb question, but , I have a Grandstream ATA 486 with (protected with password) , is there a way to "hack" the sip account on it so I can use it in other sip phone? |
| 05:17.34 | beto75_ | note: the other sip phone can be my asterisk server :) |
| 05:17.58 | count | hax |
| 05:20.54 | trym | mmmm..estrogen |
| 05:23.23 | infinity1 | anyone have success troubleshooting the tdm400p? |
| 05:23.30 | infinity1 | i'm getting this error. |
| 05:23.32 | infinity1 | ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 1: No such device or address (6) |
| 05:23.42 | infinity1 | when i run ztcfg. |
| 05:25.57 | litage | when installing asterisk, is it enough to just `make install` or should i `make && make install` ? |
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| 05:32.24 | file | Mental note: Don't call, via voice, a text-based application. |
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| 05:34.46 | key2 | count: do you think I could do echo canelling on 480 channel with a DS3 card with a quad dual-opteron 2.2 ? |
| 05:35.33 | count | what |
| 05:35.41 | count | quad dual opteron 2.2 |
| 05:35.51 | count | is that 8 cpus |
| 05:35.52 | count | or 4 boxes |
| 05:35.54 | count | or what |
| 05:35.55 | count | haha |
| 05:35.59 | key2 | dual core |
| 05:36.08 | key2 | it's like 8 cpu yeah |
| 05:36.28 | file | that's sexy |
| 05:37.03 | count | do you have an echo problem on a DS3? |
| 05:37.12 | key2 | i dunno |
| 05:37.22 | key2 | i guess if u have on E1 u have on E3 too |
| 05:37.29 | count | no |
| 05:37.34 | key2 | why not ? |
| 05:37.41 | count | different circuits, cables |
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| 05:37.45 | count | well |
| 05:37.50 | count | potentially, yes you could have the issue |
| 05:38.27 | count | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+echo+cancellation |
| 05:38.28 | count | read that |
| 05:39.30 | Pete_Largo | hey y'all |
| 05:40.29 | count | hihi |
| 05:48.47 | Pete_Largo | busy night... |
| 05:50.31 | harryvv | how so |
| 05:50.31 | count | very |
| 05:50.38 | harryvv | how so bussy |
| 05:51.07 | Pete_Largo | lots of chatter on the channel ;) |
| 05:52.03 | harryvv | yup |
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| 05:52.56 | Cresl1n | Hey!!!! |
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| 05:54.17 | pcm | hi |
| 05:55.50 | Pete_Largo | hey! |
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| 05:58.52 | pcm | does te110p use the infenion framer ? |
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| 06:13.15 | afrosheen | hello everyone |
| 06:13.39 | Pete_Largo | hello |
| 06:13.46 | afrosheen | I was wondering if anyone knows if asterisk can handle dual-homing, i.e. straddling two networks on one server |
| 06:14.10 | Pete_Largo | wouldn't that be more of a router question? |
| 06:14.20 | afrosheen | I have phones behind a firewall on a private subnet but asterisk needs to be on the public side outside the firewall. |
| 06:14.43 | Pete_Largo | are the phones behind a NAT router? |
| 06:14.47 | afrosheen | yeah |
| 06:15.00 | Pete_Largo | that's how my box is set up at home and it works fine |
| 06:15.50 | afrosheen | well our box is working kinda ok the way it is now but the senior admin is crazy |
| 06:16.03 | afrosheen | wants to do this to waste my time I guess |
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| 06:18.05 | Inv_arp | ercity.net |
| 06:20.08 | file[laptop] | yay parental units are home, hrm that's a yay I think |
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| 06:24.30 | file[laptop] | goodnight folks |
| 06:30.22 | SplasPood | anyone know if there's a "I forgot my password" thingy for nufone.net? |
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| 06:35.15 | SplasPood | hrm.. cause I think nufone just "ate" my paypal |
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| 06:45.30 | Pete_Largo | that would suck |
| 06:45.47 | litage | what exactly is a voip gateway? voip-info.org's wiki entry doesn't explain it |
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| 06:46.35 | unixmonster | what would your definitition of a gateway be |
| 06:47.12 | Pete_Largo | my understanding is that it is a media gateway. meaning that the routing and control could be in another system. similar to a channel bank I guess... though I'm not sure I understand correctly |
| 06:47.13 | litage | unixmonster: a device that allows various types of incoming and outgoing connections |
| 06:47.28 | unixmonster | ok.. one of those that does VoIP |
| 06:47.40 | litage | unixmonster: why would you need one for voip? |
| 06:49.13 | unixmonster | you need to terminate VoIP clients onto something. Otherwise, just point to point calls. |
| 06:49.48 | litage | unixmonster: what does "terminate voip clients onto something" mean? |
| 06:50.08 | litage | unixmonster: as in have some machine that a voip client connects to? |
| 06:50.17 | Aze` | I use headset with SJPHone, input and output device are /dev/dsp. If i try to record a audio file with kde utility audio i perferct, but if i use sjphone to call audio is low volume in output and good in input. Why ? Pls, help me. |
| 06:50.25 | litage | that will sort out the connection issues? |
| 06:51.01 | unixmonster | just like your computer connects to your broadband provider to get an IP and become a node on the internet. You connect to a VoIP gateway to get a number and connect to some sort of VoIP network. |
| 06:51.37 | litage | unixmonster: that makes sense...so is asterisk considered a voip gateway? |
| 06:52.13 | unixmonster | yes. Asterisk can act as many things in the VoIP world. |
| 06:52.17 | Pete_Largo | think of a gateway to the voip world from the 'pstn' world |
| 06:52.30 | litage | rightio |
| 06:52.30 | Pete_Largo | or the sip world from the iax world, or the ... |
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| 06:55.18 | litage | if i have 2 phones behind asterisk on a single IP, and each phone registers with something like IAXtel, and someone calls one of the phones, how does the target phone get called? |
| 06:56.14 | unixmonster | you can do either call routing based on CallerID if you know certain people that call. Or set up a menu or extension based dialplan that people enter in when they call. |
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| 06:58.01 | litage | ah snazzy |
| 06:59.16 | litage | if the 2 phones have 2 different #s, could you somehow tell * that calls to 1234 go to phone1, and calls to 5678 go to phone2? |
| 06:59.57 | litage | cuz both phones will have the same IP address, so dialing either 1234 or 5678 will go to the 2 phones' * box.. |
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| 07:01.41 | unixmonster | is it SIP or IAX connection? |
| 07:02.01 | litage | haven't decided yet. why does it matter? |
| 07:02.18 | unixmonster | well.. doesn't really i suppose. |
| 07:02.41 | litage | =P |
| 07:03.29 | unixmonster | personally I would register each phone with your asterisk server, then setup the connections with IAXTEL or whatever in a context that sends incoming calls to whichever phone you want. |
| 07:04.31 | unixmonster | so in the sip.conf, or iax.conf portion you will have to have a seperate section for each number with IAXTEL, because the username and password are different. |
| 07:04.48 | litage | makes sense |
| 07:05.17 | litage | then i wouldn't need to use call routing or dial plans to figure out which phone is being called, right? |
| 07:05.50 | unixmonster | but in each section you can set a seperate context say that incoming calls for one phone goes to iaxtel1-in and in that context in the extensions.conf, you would have an exten => s,1,Dial(SIP/phone1) |
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| 07:06.28 | tessier_ | hmm |
| 07:06.43 | tessier_ | Will SIP packets always be sourced from 5060 or will they usually come from a random port like a tcp connection? |
| 07:06.59 | tessier_ | Since SIP is udp and therefore connectionless I'm not sure what the standard behavior would be. |
| 07:08.58 | litage | thanks for your help unixmonster |
| 07:09.03 | litage | later gators |
| 07:10.24 | unixmonster | usually they are random sources, but dest is always 5060 |
| 07:10.36 | unixmonster | unless you set it to non-standard. |
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| 07:11.31 | unixmonster | asterisk allows you to set the udp ports on the sip and rtp packets |
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| 07:17.20 | Assid | heya |
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| 07:44.13 | drumkilla | this place is happenin' |
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| 07:44.43 | der[mat] | hi * |
| 07:45.15 | Pete_Largo | aint it just, drumkilla? |
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| 07:56.01 | gordonjcp | morning folks |
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| 08:00.26 | pycsusz | Hi Everybody! If somebody use Billion Bipac single ISDN BRI card, then please write me private message, because I have got some problem with outcalling! |
| 08:00.53 | pycsusz | If you can help me, please do it! |
| 08:01.37 | RoyK | pycsusz: using bristuff or i4l? |
| 08:01.56 | pycsusz | RoyK, bristuff |
| 08:02.33 | RoyK | pastebin dialplan, zap(tel|ata).conf and debug output, please |
| 08:02.34 | gordonjcp | pycsusz: it's usually best to discuss these things in-channel, so we can all learn... |
| 08:02.55 | pycsusz | RoyK, some minutes |
| 08:03.05 | RoyK | ~pastebin |
| 08:03.05 | jbot | pastebin is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
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| 08:04.00 | wiseguy_ | hellow |
| 08:04.02 | wiseguy_ | people |
| 08:04.14 | wiseguy_ | i want to buy g729, where to go? |
| 08:04.15 | RoyK | hollow |
| 08:04.16 | wiseguy_ | ;-) |
| 08:04.22 | RoyK | wiseguy_: digium.com |
| 08:04.38 | wiseguy_ | and? |
| 08:04.39 | wiseguy_ | :-) |
| 08:04.55 | RoyK | $10 per concurrent g.729 transcoding |
| 08:05.03 | RoyK | wiseguy_: software products etc etc etc |
| 08:05.18 | wiseguy_ | so, 10$ for each channel? |
| 08:05.25 | RoyK | yes |
| 08:05.27 | RoyK | basically |
| 08:05.58 | RoyK | but for MoH, you need one for decoding and one for encoding |
| 08:06.17 | wiseguy_ | am |
| 08:06.21 | wiseguy_ | interesting |
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| 08:08.45 | pycsusz | RoyK, http://pastebin.ca/16826 |
| 08:09.08 | pycsusz | RoyK, ohhh sorry I forgot the dialplan |
| 08:09.15 | pycsusz | RoyK, one moment |
| 08:10.19 | pycsusz | RoyK, dialplan: http://pastebin.ca/16827 |
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| 08:14.51 | RoyK | hm |
| 08:14.51 | RoyK | Jul 4 10:08:52 WARNING[6970]: app_dial.c:426 wait_for_answer: Unable to forward voice |
| 08:15.02 | RoyK | not a codec problem? |
| 08:15.37 | pycsusz | well, I really don't know |
| 08:16.00 | pycsusz | would you see more from debug information? |
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| 08:17.45 | Math` | I just checked out cvs head and I'm having problems with Playback()s.... sound quality is OK for any calls but really sucks when asterisk playbacks stuff |
| 08:17.53 | Math` | tried gsm, ulaw and alaw, same prob |
| 08:18.07 | Math` | clients are connecting via sip and are x-lite + a mediatrix 2102 |
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| 08:28.15 | heath__ | i'm not seeing a way to set global variables with the manager/command line, anyone know if i'm wrong? |
| 08:31.59 | Zeeek | hey kram |
| 08:32.04 | Zeeek | randy here |
| 08:32.19 | kram | hey randy |
| 08:32.29 | kram | did you get my e-mail? |
| 08:32.39 | Zeeek | yep got and replied |
| 08:32.47 | Zeeek | you're already here? or just up late |
| 08:32.56 | kram | yup i';m here :) |
| 08:33.01 | kram | in fact i have to go get ready! |
| 08:33.07 | kram | a bientot! |
| 08:33.08 | Zeeek | well, the 8th is fine for me and the location perfect |
| 08:33.16 | Zeeek | heh |
| 08:33.50 | pycsusz | Somebody can help me in outcalling with Billion Bipac BRI ISDN card? |
| 08:37.39 | der[mat] | someone uses a mgcp fon behind a nat gw? and would like to answer some questions? |
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| 09:09.05 | Newbie___ | hi, i tried to dial with OH323 and keep getting error ' No End Point' any ideas ?? |
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| 09:11.31 | pietro | hello |
| 09:12.04 | pietro | if i pickup a channel the phone picked-up ringing |
| 09:12.46 | pietro | i pickup with a oh323 phone |
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| 09:15.28 | my007ms | hello all |
| 09:22.09 | pycsusz | Somebody use HFC BRI ISDN card? |
| 09:25.11 | [Jedi] | I do |
| 09:29.48 | pycsusz | [Jedi], what type of card do you use? |
| 09:30.43 | [Jedi] | a cheap 13-eur BRI |
| 09:31.10 | [Jedi] | I use it for development until I put my apps into production in a TE405P |
| 09:31.31 | pycsusz | [Jedi], would you show me (pastebin.ca) your zaptel.conf and your zapata.conf? |
| 09:32.25 | [Jedi] | sure |
| 09:32.39 | [Jedi] | zaphfc-relevant lines are commented right now |
| 09:32.44 | [Jedi] | but they're there |
| 09:32.53 | pycsusz | thanx |
| 09:35.25 | [Jedi] | http://pastebin.ca/16831 |
| 09:35.33 | pycsusz | thanx again |
| 09:35.42 | [Jedi] | ;) |
| 09:37.03 | [Jedi] | I've found it to be a really cheap and useful interface for development |
| 09:37.45 | pycsusz | I have got Billion Bipac for test too, but I haven't got outcalling |
| 09:37.47 | [Jedi] | and with a pair of these and a pair of BRI lines, you can dial-out 4 concurrent calls for less than 30 EUR... it's great |
| 09:38.02 | pycsusz | yes :) |
| 09:38.15 | [Jedi] | Mine has no 'brand' |
| 09:39.08 | [Jedi] | humm my old h323 .so from asterisk 1.0.7 works well |
| 09:39.27 | [Jedi] | but when I try to compile the one included in 1.0.8, it throws lots of errors |
| 09:40.04 | pycsusz | I use bristuff, and this compile tha 1.0.8 automatically.. |
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| 09:40.37 | Myshenka | Good morning |
| 09:40.45 | [Jedi] | yes |
| 09:40.51 | [Jedi] | I've upgraded my 'bristuff' |
| 09:41.03 | [Jedi] | old one used 1.0.7, whose h323 compiled well |
| 09:41.03 | pycsusz | when I try to call out, then I get this message on asterisk console: |
| 09:41.03 | [Jedi] | :/ |
| 09:41.20 | pycsusz | Jul 4 11:30:21 WARNING[7292]: app_dial.c:426 wait_for_answer: Unable to forward voice |
| 09:41.33 | [Jedi] | pycsusz: write this in asterisk console |
| 09:41.33 | [Jedi] | bri intense debug span 1 |
| 09:41.35 | pycsusz | but the incomeing call is perfect |
| 09:41.39 | [Jedi] | and try to dial-out |
| 09:41.49 | [Jedi] | well maybe you don't need intense |
| 09:41.54 | [Jedi] | try first with bri debug span 1 |
| 09:41.56 | pycsusz | ok I will show you on pastebin |
| 09:41.59 | [Jedi] | and look the q.931 dialog |
| 09:42.08 | [Jedi] | it will give you the reason your call is being rejected |
| 09:42.18 | pycsusz | ok, one moment |
| 09:43.36 | pycsusz | ohh, this send me the information all the time |
| 09:43.45 | pycsusz | what do I have to seek? |
| 09:44.26 | [Jedi] | ok |
| 09:44.31 | [Jedi] | disable intense debugging |
| 09:44.33 | [Jedi] | it may be too heavy |
| 09:45.00 | [Jedi] | pri no debug span 1 |
| 09:45.03 | [Jedi] | pri debug span 1 |
| 09:45.04 | pycsusz | yes |
| 09:45.05 | [Jedi] | without intense |
| 09:45.14 | [Jedi] | and paste the full Q.931 dialog |
| 09:45.16 | [Jedi] | in pastebin |
| 09:45.35 | pycsusz | http://pastebin.ca/16832 |
| 09:45.38 | pycsusz | http://pastebin.ca/16829 |
| 09:46.53 | [Jedi] | # |
| 09:46.53 | [Jedi] | < Cause (len= 4) [ Ext: 1 Coding: CCITT (ITU) standard (0) 0: 0 Location: Public network serving the local user (2) |
| 09:46.53 | [Jedi] | # |
| 09:46.53 | [Jedi] | < Ext: 1 Cause: Unallocated (unassigned) number (1), class = Normal Event (0) ] |
| 09:47.02 | [Jedi] | this is the DISCONNECT cause |
| 09:47.37 | [Jedi] | exec callingpres(0) before dialing out |
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| 09:47.52 | InfraRed | hi |
| 09:48.11 | [Jedi] | had the same problem |
| 09:49.04 | pycsusz | [Jedi], how do I exec callingpres(0)? |
| 09:49.45 | Newbie___ | hi, does any one have a working h323.conf ? |
| 09:49.45 | InfraRed | a trunk is something only defined in IAX and is nothing to do with SIP, am i right ? |
| 09:49.53 | [Jedi] | well, I use AGI for dialing out |
| 09:50.10 | [Jedi] | I don't use a 'normal' dialplan |
| 09:50.18 | [Jedi] | i'm sorry I can't help you with it |
| 09:50.34 | [Jedi] | but you have to exec callingpres with 0 as parameter before dialing out |
| 09:50.35 | pycsusz | [Jedi], already you helped me thanx |
| 09:50.47 | [Jedi] | maybe you can set that parameter statically |
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| 09:51.25 | [Jedi] | in zapata.conf in fact you can usecallingpres |
| 09:51.58 | pycsusz | ok |
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| 10:04.27 | Myshenka | Where do I have to look if I want to find out why Asterisk after update via cvs head won't start due to the error "Loading module pbx_wilcalu.so failed"? Google wasn't really helpful there. |
| 10:10.59 | heath__ | Myshenka: did you delete your modules directory before re-installing? |
| 10:11.09 | heath__ | It is a very common mistake to forget |
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| 10:11.41 | heath__ | mv /var/lib/asterisk/modules /var/lib/asterisk/modules.old |
| 10:11.45 | heath__ | i think anyway :) |
| 10:11.50 | Myshenka | heath, no I didnt do that. But actually I didnt see any hints that I should do that |
| 10:12.01 | Myshenka | I will try, thanks (-: |
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| 10:12.43 | iceyp | anyone here good with upgrading a 7940 phone |
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| 10:14.18 | RoyK | iceyp: cisco docs tell you how |
| 10:16.15 | iceyp | yeah having issues, its starts to download files off the tftp, it verifys the load then says "Application load invalid" and trys over and over. Looking at my tftp server it doesnt appear to be completing the download, I would imagine there isnt enough space maybe |
| 10:16.32 | Myshenka | heath, it is btw /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/ |
| 10:18.01 | iceyp | which image should i be loading P0S3-07-4-00 or P003-07-4-00.sbn. From what i can tell P003-07-4-00.sbn is the skinny client |
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| 10:34.35 | zobia | Hello , anybody has experience with astguiclient ? |
| 10:35.47 | zobia | I used xlite for dial out the number, everthing is okay, when i use web dialing from astguiclient. always failed. is it possible my dial plan 's problem? |
| 10:36.17 | zobia | Hello. anybody there? |
| 10:36.47 | iceyp | fsck |
| 10:36.53 | iceyp | how much space does a cisco 7940 have |
| 10:37.10 | zobia | anybody can help me out? |
| 10:37.35 | RoyK | zobia: read the docs :) astguiclient uses iax2 iirc, and xlite uses SIP, so the setups are quite different |
| 10:39.09 | zobia | oh. thanx RoyK. u mean i should change my sip.conf and extensions.conf? |
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| 10:44.59 | RoyK | ~docs |
| 10:44.59 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 10:45.02 | RoyK | ~rtfm |
| 10:45.02 | jbot | [rtfm] read the f*cking manual... try asking me about "FAQ" |
| 10:45.09 | RoyK | ~faq |
| 10:45.09 | jbot | rumour has it, faq is frequently asked question... try asking me about "RTFM" |
| 10:45.19 | RoyK | zobia: start there |
| 10:45.47 | gordonjcp | RoyK: daft question coming up... |
| 10:46.19 | gordonjcp | RoyK: if I have an iax2 phone and a sip phone, can I set up entries in sip.conf and iax.conf with the same number for both? |
| 10:46.36 | gordonjcp | so that if I log in with a sip phone or an IAX2 phone, either should work with the same number |
| 10:46.50 | gordonjcp | as in, one but not both |
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| 10:49.30 | heath__ | gordonjcp, yes, because when you dial then in the dialplan you have to specify which protocol you are using, i.e. Dial(sip/3205631212) or Dial(iax2/3205631212) |
| 10:49.44 | gordonjcp | ah bugger |
| 10:49.48 | gordonjcp | forgot about that |
| 10:50.03 | RoyK | gordonjcp: sure |
| 10:50.09 | RoyK | gordonjcp: callerid is just callerid |
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| 10:50.14 | RoyK | no need for that to be unique |
| 10:50.20 | gordonjcp | yeah, it wasn't for callerid |
| 10:50.36 | gordonjcp | I have a couple of sip phones, but when I'm not in the house I use an IAX2 client |
| 10:50.51 | gordonjcp | I suppose I could just make them a group |
| 10:51.33 | RoyK | gordonjcp: a queue, perhaps, for incoming |
| 10:51.46 | gordonjcp | yeah possibly |
| 10:51.50 | heath__ | or a Local channel |
| 10:52.02 | toresbe | RoyK: hey! :) |
| 10:52.17 | RoyK | toresbe: goddag |
| 10:52.32 | toresbe | RoyK: I'm sitting here at debconf5 :) |
| 10:52.46 | RoyK | toresbe: hva er det? |
| 10:52.57 | toresbe | It's the debian conference |
| 10:52.59 | RoyK | ok |
| 10:53.11 | toresbe | deb developers gather from all the world here |
| 10:53.18 | toresbe | a lot of skolelinux folk here |
| 10:53.29 | RoyK | where is this? |
| 10:53.30 | toresbe | RoyK: I'm a videographer/minion here, but I'm setting up an asterisk server for internal VoIP stuff :) |
| 10:53.36 | toresbe | RoyK: This year it's Finland |
| 10:53.41 | toresbe | RoyK: 2003 was in oslo |
| 10:53.43 | RoyK | ok |
| 10:53.46 | RoyK | helsinki? |
| 10:55.20 | heath__ | Do you call yourselves Oslonians? |
| 10:55.26 | heath__ | Oslonianites? |
| 10:57.14 | toresbe | Norwegians :P |
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| 10:59.17 | Newbie___ | hi, i tried to dial with OH323 and keep getting error ' No End Point' any ideas ?? |
| 11:00.49 | toresbe | RoyK: yep |
| 11:01.03 | toresbe | allright, work beckons |
| 11:01.05 | toresbe | *g0n3* |
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| 11:04.28 | jas_williams | Newbie___ What is your dial line ? |
| 11:04.46 | jas_williams | 2 |
| 11:04.48 | gordonjcp | strange norwegian teenage hackers... |
| 11:07.39 | Newbie___ | jas_williams: exten => _01Z.,1,Dial(OH323/x.x.x.x:1720/${EXTEN},30) |
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| 11:11.35 | Myshenka | Shouldn't it be possible for Realtime to connect to the MySQL server even if only the res_mysql.conf has been adjusted concerning the parameters, and extconfig.conf is still the sample file? |
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| 11:12.08 | Mother_ | greetings |
| 11:12.24 | cochi | mom! you in here.. wait... since when do you live outside Germany... *hm* |
| 11:12.35 | cochi | must've missed sth ;) |
| 11:14.24 | Mother_ | hehe |
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| 11:20.38 | skrusty | afternoon |
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| 11:25.19 | RoyK | can someone please tell me what the lsof output gives in the 'device' column for listening UDP ports? |
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| 12:15.51 | ceegee | hello |
| 12:17.06 | ceegee | anybody running asterisk on suse linux with suse packages? asterisk wont start using the init script, but why? |
| 12:17.51 | key2 | does it start normally ? |
| 12:18.14 | ceegee | yes, starting with asterisk -vvvc for example works |
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| 12:18.42 | darylp | can anyone help explain some things about incoming contexts to me? |
| 12:19.05 | ceegee | I think installing strace will be a good idea |
| 12:20.48 | Zeeek | darylp ask away |
| 12:22.20 | darylp | fwd sez on their web page to name your incoming context iaxfwd, must it be named that, and why? |
| 12:22.40 | Zeeek | you can name it JeffPulverInHere if you want |
| 12:23.01 | Zeeek | the name of a context must match in the iax.conf and the extensions, that's all |
| 12:23.15 | darylp | ok, that's what I thought, so how does asterisk know how to assign a context when a call comes in? |
| 12:23.29 | Zeeek | because you named that context in the iax.conf |
| 12:24.11 | darylp | ok, but if I have two iax numbers from fwd, is it just the username entry that links incoming calls with a given context |
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| 12:24.45 | Zeeek | all your calls from FWD will come in one iax entry, no? |
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| 12:25.09 | darylp | ah, now we're getting somewhere, I don't know, I guess that's my question |
| 12:25.09 | Zeeek | then you use the FWD number in the context to tell them apart |
| 12:25.17 | Zeeek | let me take a look |
| 12:25.50 | darylp | ok, my mistake, there isn't a username entry in the iaxfwd context entry |
| 12:26.11 | darylp | so all the calls from any fwd number come into the same context |
| 12:26.17 | Zeeek | in iax.conf you have context=Jeff |
| 12:26.38 | darylp | right and a few other things, that defines the incoming context |
| 12:26.43 | Zeeek | in extensions.conf you'd have [Jeff] and exten => ${FWDUSERID},1,Dial() under that |
| 12:26.55 | darylp | ah, that's the ticket |
| 12:27.08 | Zeeek | so you want to handle several numbers, create an extension for each one |
| 12:27.10 | jas_williams | darylp the calls will be dropped in the same context they will hit an extension matching the fwd number |
| 12:27.26 | Zeeek | jas_williams has a better way of saying what I just said :) |
| 12:27.54 | darylp | thanks guys, it seems obvious now, but it didn't five minutes ago, go figure |
| 12:28.02 | jas_williams | :) |
| 12:28.14 | skrusty | lo ppl |
| 12:28.27 | jas_williams | skrusty ho! |
| 12:28.56 | Zeeek | darylp not that that answer is here, but this may be good reading: |
| 12:28.57 | Zeeek | The dialplan is the heart of an Asterisk system, as it defines how Asterisk should handle calls. |
| 12:28.57 | Zeeek | http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/content/docbook/current_v1/docs-html_one/vm1.html#AEN650 |
| 12:29.03 | skrusty | :) |
| 12:29.27 | skrusty | gonna finish my queue log parser, i decided last night :) |
| 12:30.18 | Chuji | I built one in Perl long ago |
| 12:30.28 | darylp | thanks, I'm reading the "asterisk documentation project" stuff, but I just got stuck there, it's clear now |
| 12:30.35 | Chuji | puts the queue log into MySQL in real time |
| 12:30.47 | jas_williams | 2 |
| 12:31.04 | darylp | is it good style to append -in and -out to context names? |
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| 12:33.41 | jas_williams | darylp I recommend you make the context names as clear as possible it makes it easier to work out what is going on in 6 months time when you have a problem so yes in and out is a good idea |
| 12:34.56 | Zeeek | jas_williamsnaw, as a security measure I name all my contexts with random sequences. OTH, my passwords are all 'root' |
| 12:35.13 | bjohnson | mine are 1234 |
| 12:35.23 | Zeeek | my phones are all 1234 |
| 12:35.31 | bjohnson | mine are all 'root' |
| 12:35.56 | Zeeek | and my vmail is 5644 which is also my PIN for Bank of America, account # 123-555431432 |
| 12:36.07 | bjohnson | 7668 for the phone dial pad disabled |
| 12:36.46 | Zeeek | if you call muhahaha@mydomain.com and press *0 you'll have DISA |
| 12:37.07 | Zeeek | but only if you have an authentic X101P |
| 12:37.14 | Zeeek | revision H or later |
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| 12:37.56 | bjohnson | yet another way to use voip for free long distance |
| 12:38.18 | Zeeek | entropy ensure that nothing is ever free |
| 12:38.41 | Zeeek | although that same entropy ensures that no cost is actually sugnificant, either |
| 12:40.20 | darylp | asterisk humor |
| 12:40.25 | bjohnson | down with entropy! I want free voip |
| 12:40.34 | darylp | ok, I have another question |
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| 12:41.26 | darylp | peer=outgoing, user=incoming, friend=both...right? |
| 12:41.40 | Zeeek | yea |
| 12:41.57 | darylp | so in iax.conf if I have an account which is both incoming and outgoing I use one context with type=friend |
| 12:42.13 | bjohnson | yes. |
| 12:42.18 | darylp | but, in so much of the docs, I see people defining two, in with user, out with peer |
| 12:42.28 | bjohnson | but sometimes that can add confusion |
| 12:42.35 | darylp | is this a choice? |
| 12:42.39 | darylp | can I do it either way? |
| 12:42.49 | darylp | which is the preferred way? |
| 12:42.53 | bjohnson | and it won't work with many providers since they use different authentication methods for inbound vs outbound |
| 12:43.10 | bjohnson | preferred way is separate entries |
| 12:43.18 | bjohnson | makes it easier to debug |
| 12:43.32 | bjohnson | but most people are lazy |
| 12:43.34 | Zeeek | darylp the preferred way is the one that works and sually youstop development at that point :) |
| 12:43.43 | darylp | lol at zeek |
| 12:43.52 | bjohnson | personally, I use friend for internal extensions and use separate for external connections |
| 12:44.04 | Zeeek | I admit to having at least one friend that isn't a friend at all |
| 12:44.07 | darylp | right, that makes sense |
| 12:44.20 | Zeeek | but I'm too lazy to scrw around with it now |
| 12:44.36 | darylp | and there is not necessarily any implicit connection between the in and out contexts |
| 12:45.11 | darylp | ? |
| 12:45.26 | Zeeek | since in one case you'll usually be dialing an internal phone and in the other, sending a call somewhere else, not really |
| 12:45.45 | darylp | things are starting to become clearer |
| 12:45.53 | Zeeek | I use stuff like dialfwd and fwdinaix |
| 12:46.14 | NewSole | anyone play with extenions.conf and extenions.ael yet |
| 12:46.21 | Zeeek | but I have also used stuff that doesn't conform tomy own rules andspend an hour trying to remember what the context is there for :) |
| 12:46.27 | darylp | can one use periods in context names? |
| 12:46.32 | Zeeek | yes |
| 12:46.39 | Zeeek | but then they will look like domains |
| 12:46.51 | darylp | is that bad? |
| 12:46.55 | Zeeek | and sometimes you see fwdnat.fwd.net |
| 12:47.06 | Zeeek | or something like that |
| 12:47.12 | Zeeek | I personally don't like it |
| 12:47.16 | darylp | ok, I see |
| 12:47.17 | Zeeek | but hey... |
| 12:47.21 | darylp | it can be confusing |
| 12:47.32 | darylp | is it convention to use hypens? |
| 12:47.49 | Zeeek | since you can also just Dial(SIP/1234@some.fwd.net) it might become confusing |
| 12:47.55 | darylp | I don't like infwdiax so much as fwd-iax-in or fwd.iax.in |
| 12:47.59 | Zeeek | remember hyphens are ALWAYS used inmacros |
| 12:48.10 | Zeeek | yeah that's good too |
| 12:48.27 | Zeeek | I mostly use hyphens like that |
| 12:48.34 | shido6 | . |
| 12:48.41 | Zeeek | _..._ |
| 12:48.46 | darylp | how are hyphens used in macros? |
| 12:48.58 | darylp | could that cause me confusion later? |
| 12:49.00 | Zeeek | names [macro-yermutha] |
| 12:49.07 | Zeeek | I guess not |
| 12:49.23 | Zeeek | except maybe [macro-fwd-out-iax] :) |
| 12:49.29 | DeeJayTwo | is it possible to have multiple IP stack in order to have multiple DSL link on one asterisk server? |
| 12:49.31 | darylp | yeah, that's what I'm thinking |
| 12:49.50 | Zeeek | darylp even then if there is a method to your madness... why not? |
| 12:50.17 | shido6 | DeeJayTwo, explain |
| 12:50.19 | DeeJayTwo | (having more than one default route is my objective) |
| 12:50.35 | darylp | right, I'm just trying to spend a minute or two thinking this through so Idon't have to change names later |
| 12:50.35 | DeeJayTwo | so that my gateway could use a maximum of 10 voip connections per DSL link |
| 12:50.58 | Zeeek | darylp the thinking through is an excellent idea. The not changing later, good luckl! |
| 12:50.59 | DeeJayTwo | I'm more used to FreeBSD but I need zap interface |
| 12:51.12 | DeeJayTwo | so I'm using linux for this..but I don't know how to have something as jails on FreeBSD |
| 12:51.17 | darylp | well, let's just say I want to minimize the later changes |
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| 12:52.16 | Zeeek | for me the hard part was a ll the litte experiments and other utility extensions, the numbering of that stuff keeps changing |
| 12:52.44 | Zeeek | also, as you add more providers, it becomes necessary to be able to distinguish between them |
| 12:52.59 | Zeeek | I now use a 3 gidit provider code |
| 12:53.06 | Zeeek | gidit/digit |
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| 12:53.43 | ZX81 | heewo |
| 12:53.43 | shido6 | so you want to limit the amount of calls per interface? |
| 12:53.46 | shido6 | DeeJayTwo |
| 12:53.46 | darylp | how many digits in a gigit |
| 12:53.46 | shido6 | ? |
| 12:53.48 | darylp | ok... |
| 12:53.56 | Zeeek | 1,000,000,000 |
| 12:54.31 | darylp | in iax.conf, if I have [fwd_aix_in] as a section what is the point of the context= line |
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| 12:54.34 | ZX81 | how many fish in the sea? |
| 12:54.42 | Wonka | 42? |
| 12:54.47 | ZX81 | Who's gonna do QCIF and CIF |
| 12:54.50 | darylp | the answer is always 42 |
| 12:54.54 | ZX81 | Wonka: no thats the meaning of life |
| 12:54.58 | ZX81 | :) |
| 12:55.12 | Wonka | the answer to the question of life, universe and everything |
| 12:55.17 | darylp | ? |
| 12:55.19 | Zeeek | darylp the section in iax.conf doesn't give the context implicitly |
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| 12:55.22 | Wonka | _not_ the answer to every question |
| 12:55.27 | ZX81 | heh |
| 12:55.49 | fenlander | ZX81: what is the video project? |
| 12:55.56 | ZX81 | hotels |
| 12:56.02 | ZX81 | with crappy phones |
| 12:56.09 | ZX81 | that don't do standard 261 or 263 |
| 12:56.15 | fenlander | Which phones? |
| 12:56.16 | darylp | ok, so I could have context=fwd_iax_in or MUST I have context=fwd_iax_in? |
| 12:56.21 | ZX81 | I dunno |
| 12:56.24 | ZX81 | all remote |
| 12:56.33 | ZX81 | we have them working with each other |
| 12:56.42 | ZX81 | but would be nice to get them working with eyebeam as well |
| 12:56.52 | ZX81 | also, I want to try do some work on video IVR |
| 12:57.04 | ZX81 | I noticed playback does not play 261 or 263 |
| 12:57.10 | ZX81 | kind obviouslly |
| 12:57.16 | darylp | I guess what I'm asking is what connection does the channel name have with the context? |
| 12:57.21 | Zeeek | darylp you lost me. You need an entry in iax.conf and in that user a context= line |
| 12:57.23 | fenlander | I have video voicemail working - are you sure? |
| 12:57.36 | ZX81 | Voicemail yes, playback no |
| 12:57.40 | Zeeek | no connection at all that I know of |
| 12:57.42 | jas_williams | darylp if you do not have a context it will go to the default context defined in the general section |
| 12:57.48 | ZX81 | video voicemail makes two recordings |
| 12:57.50 | darylp | ok, you know, that's not at all clear in the docs |
| 12:57.55 | ZX81 | 1 for audio and one for video |
| 12:57.57 | ZX81 | no? |
| 12:58.00 | fenlander | yes |
| 12:58.25 | jas_williams | 2 |
| 12:58.31 | ZX81 | yah |
| 12:59.05 | darylp | so channels get defined in iax.conf and sip.conf and whatever other kind of channels you have.conf and for each of those channels that are users I have a context= line that defines where in the dialplan an incoming call goes? |
| 12:59.36 | darylp | thanks jas |
| 13:00.05 | Zeeek | that's about the size of it |
| 13:00.39 | ZX81 | ~adn |
| 13:00.39 | jbot | methinks adn is the Asterisk Daily News - http://www.sineapps.com/news.php for HTML and http://www.sineapps.com/rssfeed.php for RSS |
| 13:00.58 | darylp | and outgoing channels are parameters to the dial application? |
| 13:02.05 | Zeeek | parameters to the dial app are listed by typing show application dial |
| 13:03.27 | darylp | ok, they are the "resource" parameter? |
| 13:03.39 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ZX81!! plugging are we, :D |
| 13:03.41 | heath__ | right |
| 13:05.20 | ZX81 | hehe |
| 13:05.22 | ZX81 | always |
| 13:05.26 | ZX81 | :D |
| 13:07.06 | ceegee | where is the "asterisk database"? |
| 13:07.19 | travelingpcguy | Does this IRC have a file server? |
| 13:07.37 | ceegee | in logfile we see "Unable to open Asterisk database" |
| 13:08.57 | ZX81 | asterisk db is part of asterisk |
| 13:08.58 | ZX81 | astdb |
| 13:09.36 | heath__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.10 | darylp | does include work in iax.conf? |
| 13:11.22 | darylp | can I define [fwd_iax_out] |
| 13:11.45 | darylp | then say [fwd_iax_user1_out] include fwd_iax_out ? |
| 13:11.59 | heath__ | darylp: never done it personally, but i understand include works with both sip.conf and iax.conf |
| 13:12.16 | darylp | is the syntax include=blahblah, or include blahblah |
| 13:12.26 | jas_williams | darylp what are you trying to do as this seems very convoluted |
| 13:12.43 | travelingpcguy | help /fserve |
| 13:12.46 | travelingpcguy | ?? |
| 13:12.53 | heath__ | #include whatever.conf |
| 13:13.03 | darylp | oh, I see, it's a file include |
| 13:13.15 | heath__ | remember not to put the => i've done that numerous times on accident |
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| 13:13.24 | darylp | I'm trying to not have to retype the general settings |
| 13:13.38 | darylp | I'm moving from a@h to just * |
| 13:13.47 | heath__ | oh a context, i don't know about that |
| 13:14.08 | darylp | ok, I'll keep it simple at first and just retype the stuff |
| 13:14.21 | jas_williams | darylp the general settings are inherited by all below unless explicitly re written |
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| 13:14.29 | florinm | hi there |
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| 13:14.40 | florinm | anyone can help me config the TE110P card? |
| 13:14.44 | travelingpcguy | Darylp... That is best especially if you intend to make changes infrequently... multiple files with include statements allows for cleaner implimentations. The #include xxxxx.conf is the best method. |
| 13:14.45 | darylp | doh!, of course, THAT'S where it goes |
| 13:15.08 | travelingpcguy | What is wrong w/ you 110P? |
| 13:15.23 | florinm | i can;t make it recognized by the system at all :( |
| 13:15.32 | florinm | i compiles the zaptel |
| 13:15.38 | florinm | modprobe zaptel |
| 13:15.48 | travelingpcguy | Lib PRI? |
| 13:15.49 | darylp | but still, for example, host won't be the same for ALL iax peers but will be the same for all outgoing fwd channels |
| 13:15.54 | florinm | and then modprobe wcte11xp |
| 13:16.00 | florinm | and not working |
| 13:16.24 | jas_williams | florinm then ztcfg -vvvv |
| 13:16.31 | heka | florinm: ? |
| 13:16.35 | heka | where are you from? |
| 13:18.14 | jas_williams | darylp you only need one just make sure you set the cid name and num in extensions.conf before dial |
| 13:18.34 | jas_williams | outgoing peer |
| 13:18.52 | florinm | modprobe gives error |
| 13:18.58 | florinm | and ztcfg too |
| 13:19.08 | shido6 | what error |
| 13:19.11 | jas_williams | florinm post errors |
| 13:19.14 | florinm | Notice: Configuration file is /etc/zaptel.conf |
| 13:19.14 | florinm | line 0: Unable to open master device '/dev/zap/ctl' |
| 13:19.15 | darylp | right jas, that's what I was missing |
| 13:19.17 | shido6 | heehe |
| 13:19.21 | shido6 | is this 2.6? |
| 13:19.25 | shido6 | uname -r |
| 13:19.28 | shido6 | whats it say |
| 13:19.30 | shido6 | rap |
| 13:19.32 | shido6 | uname -a |
| 13:19.47 | Zeeek | somewhere like /Var//part |
| 13:19.52 | Zeeek | haha |
| 13:19.54 | *** part/#asterisk Zeeek (~icechat5@Zeeek.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) |
| 13:20.35 | jas_williams | florinm look in README.udev in the zaptel directory |
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| 13:24.32 | travelingpcguy | flori: is your conf file like: zaptel.conf: |
| 13:24.32 | travelingpcguy | span=1,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4 |
| 13:24.32 | travelingpcguy | bchan=1-15,17-31 |
| 13:24.32 | travelingpcguy | dchan=16 |
| 13:24.47 | florinm | i've tryed |
| 13:24.49 | florinm | error |
| 13:25.15 | travelingpcguy | jas, you think that this is the udev upgrade issue besaue florinm is running SUSE? |
| 13:27.40 | jas_williams | travelingpcguy As the device can not be seen then either he is running udev or /dev/zap/ctl which should be there is not |
| 13:28.20 | jas_williams | florinm did you do a make install in the zaptel directory to install the devices |
| 13:28.25 | florinm | yes |
| 13:28.53 | jas_williams | florinm what was the output of uname -r |
| 13:29.32 | florinm | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.44 | jas_williams | florinm have you gone through the steps in README.udev |
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| 13:31.06 | florinm | i just done it now and seems working , but as T1. i need it as E1! |
| 13:31.18 | florinm | TE110P: Setting up global serial parameters for T1 FALC V1.2 |
| 13:31.18 | florinm | TE110P: Successfully initialized serial bus for card |
| 13:31.24 | florinm | Found a Wildcard: Digium Wildcard TE110P T1/E1 |
| 13:31.24 | florinm | Registered tone zone 4 (United Kingdom) |
| 13:31.50 | jas_williams | florinm have you changed the jumpers to e1 if so then that is fine |
| 13:32.04 | florinm | where is that jumper? |
| 13:32.14 | florinm | no doc about any jumpers anywhere :( |
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| 13:32.16 | Assid | heya |
| 13:32.23 | ManxPower | the TE110P does not require a jumper change. |
| 13:32.28 | florinm | i heard is such jumper |
| 13:32.33 | Assid | i just got my hands on a cisco ip phone 7912 series |
| 13:32.39 | florinm | but never sow were and how :P |
| 13:32.40 | jas_williams | On the card hold on i'll try to find picture |
| 13:32.44 | Assid | how the hell does one configure this damn thing? |
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| 13:34.43 | jas_williams | florinm there are 4 jumpers together on the centre of the card by default they come set as T1 |
| 13:35.16 | florinm | k, going to open pc :P |
| 13:35.23 | florinm | back in few min :P |
| 13:37.16 | shido6 | breakfast time |
| 13:37.22 | shido6 | who wants something from mcdonoids |
| 13:37.53 | MikeJ[Laptop] | shido6, you buyin? |
| 13:39.18 | *** part/#asterisk ceegee (~christian@p508A5555.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:39.22 | jas_williams | Assid: Do you have tftp server setup etc.... |
| 13:40.02 | darylp | ok, I googled for this, and the first link was to google for it, but I still can't find the answer: What does insecure=very mean? |
| 13:40.31 | ManxPower | darylp: did you check the sip.conf.sample? |
| 13:41.26 | darylp | yes, but it isn't clear |
| 13:41.49 | florinm | so |
| 13:41.54 | ManxPower | I think it tells asterisk to not authenticate on user/pass and only on ip |
| 13:41.56 | florinm | on the card is ONLY 1 jumper |
| 13:42.08 | ManxPower | florinm: What is your specific problem? |
| 13:42.18 | florinm | i want to use the card with e1 |
| 13:42.27 | ManxPower | so set the span= line correctly. |
| 13:42.36 | florinm | now i moved the jumper in close position |
| 13:42.49 | florinm | what is the correct span for e1 uk ? |
| 13:42.55 | ManxPower | the TE cards can be configured via software OR via jumper. |
| 13:42.57 | *** join/#asterisk Assid (~assid@203.115.64.61) |
| 13:43.02 | jas_williams | darylp insecure=very ; To allow registered hosts to call without re-authenticating |
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| 13:43.13 | ManxPower | florinm: Um, there are examples. |
| 13:43.20 | florinm | i tryed all of them |
| 13:43.24 | Assid | how does one go ahead setting up the phone |
| 13:43.26 | florinm | it still sees the card as t1 |
| 13:43.28 | Assid | i still cant get it |
| 13:43.33 | ManxPower | WHAT sees the card as T-1? |
| 13:43.38 | florinm | now i changed jumper |
| 13:43.54 | florinm | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.04 | ManxPower | what is your span line? |
| 13:44.17 | florinm | wait i'm rebooting system now with the jumper changed |
| 13:44.35 | jas_williams | florinm span line should read span=1,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4 |
| 13:44.39 | ManxPower | # The framing is one of "d4" or "esf" for T1 or "cas" or "ccs" for E1 |
| 13:44.51 | ManxPower | # The coding is one of "ami" or "b8zs" for T1 or "ami" or "hdb3" for E1 |
| 13:45.27 | ManxPower | If you set the framing to cas or ccs and the coding to hdb3 and you do not get any errors, then it's set for E-1 |
| 13:45.53 | *** part/#asterisk darkgumby (~darkgumby@d1c47c0e.gw104.dsl.airmail.net) |
| 13:46.31 | florinm | let me try |
| 13:46.38 | florinm | first let the slow pc power on ;) |
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| 13:48.21 | Assid | heya |
| 13:48.27 | Assid | shido6: u there |
| 13:48.32 | florinm | no |
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| 13:48.40 | jas_williams | florinm span line should read span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4 I forgot to set use as timing source |
| 13:48.42 | florinm | he's having breakfast :P |
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| 13:49.23 | florinm | and if i want all lines to be FXO (voice only ) ? |
| 13:49.32 | florinm | fxsks=1-31 |
| 13:49.34 | florinm | correct? |
| 13:49.52 | ManxPower | florinm: Do one thing at a time. |
| 13:50.19 | jas_williams | florinm no |
| 13:50.19 | florinm | TE110P: Setting up global serial parameters for E1 FALC V1.2 |
| 13:50.19 | florinm | TE110P: Successfully initialized serial bus for card |
| 13:50.27 | jas_williams | Progresss |
| 13:50.28 | florinm | it see now as E1 :P |
| 13:50.55 | florinm | now ;) ? |
| 13:51.01 | jas_williams | florinm next the rest of zapata.conf |
| 13:51.40 | florinm | :P |
| 13:51.46 | florinm | i'm lost there :) |
| 13:52.14 | jas_williams | span=1,1,1,ccs,hdb3,crc4 |
| 13:52.14 | jas_williams | bchan=1-15 |
| 13:52.14 | jas_williams | dchan=16 |
| 13:52.14 | jas_williams | bchan=17-31 |
| 13:52.14 | jas_williams | loadzone=uk |
| 13:52.14 | jas_williams | defaultzone=uk |
| 13:52.20 | ManxPower | ~pastebin |
| 13:52.21 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 13:52.42 | ManxPower | florinm: Do you have PRI or CE1? |
| 13:52.43 | jas_williams | Sorry everyone wron window :) |
| 13:53.09 | [Jedi] | CE1? |
| 13:53.10 | [Jedi] | what's a CE1? |
| 13:53.18 | ManxPower | Channelized E-1. |
| 13:53.21 | florinm | i don't know ;) i used before a D/300pci card |
| 13:53.26 | ManxPower | Like a Channelized T-1, but it's an E-1 |
| 13:53.27 | florinm | how can i check ? |
| 13:53.27 | [Jedi] | a E1 without D channel? |
| 13:53.45 | jas_williams | florinm is this a BT line ? |
| 13:53.49 | florinm | yes |
| 13:53.51 | ManxPower | [Jedi]: Not all T-1/E-1s are PRI. |
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| 13:54.01 | jas_williams | then set it as http://pastebin.ca/16842 |
| 13:54.26 | [Jedi] | ManxPower: what else may an E1 be? |
| 13:54.31 | jas_williams | for zaptel.conf |
| 13:54.37 | florinm | k |
| 13:54.47 | *** part/#asterisk pdinoto (~pdinoto@host197.201-252-169.telecom.net.ar) |
| 13:54.56 | jas_williams | florinm also how many channels do you have from BT 8 or all 30 ? |
| 13:55.08 | florinm | all 30 |
| 13:55.30 | ManxPower | [Jedi]: It would be channelized voice |
| 13:55.32 | florinm | and i want to use all 30 as FXO |
| 13:56.01 | ManxPower | t-1/e-1 were around LONG before PRI |
| 13:56.08 | florinm | From dialogic it say is CRT4 |
| 13:56.13 | Assid | anyone here using a cisco phone? |
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| 13:56.21 | [Jedi] | CRT4? |
| 13:56.28 | [Jedi] | maybe you mean CTR? |
| 13:56.29 | Assid | mine is stuck at configuring ... |
| 13:56.40 | ManxPower | And many PBXs require a costly software upgrade to support PRI rather than Channelized E/T-1 |
| 13:56.42 | florinm | ISDN protocol CTR4 |
| 13:56.44 | jas_williams | then zapata.conf should be as http://pastebin.ca/16843 |
| 13:56.45 | florinm | yes |
| 13:56.48 | [Jedi] | that's EuroISDN |
| 13:56.52 | [Jedi] | it's a PRI |
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| 13:57.02 | ManxPower | florinm: DO you have a PRI? |
| 13:57.17 | ManxPower | aka ISDN30 |
| 13:57.18 | jas_williams | ManxPower it is a E1 PRI from British telecom |
| 13:57.23 | florinm | from dialogi card it say CTR4 |
| 13:57.30 | ManxPower | jas_williams: Are you sure? |
| 13:57.35 | clive- | is iax2 port 4569 udp ? |
| 13:57.38 | [Jedi] | aculab cards use a "CTR4" firmware for E1 EuroISDN |
| 13:57.45 | ManxPower | florinm: The concept of FXO/FXS does NOT apply to ISDN |
| 13:57.52 | florinm | aha |
| 13:57.54 | jas_williams | ManxPower yes |
| 13:58.12 | florinm | so should i use the http://pastebin.ca/16843 ? |
| 13:58.15 | jas_williams | florin zapata.conf should be as http://pastebin.ca/16843 |
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| 13:58.24 | jas_williams | yes |
| 13:58.27 | florinm | thanks |
| 13:58.30 | florinm | let me try ;) |
| 13:58.53 | ManxPower | oej: I managed to get ENUM working the way I wanted it 8-) |
| 13:59.12 | oej | Manxpower: How did you want it to work? |
| 13:59.33 | florinm | line 234: Syntax error. Start of range '> 1-31' should be a number from 1 to 1023 |
| 13:59.48 | jas_williams | typo |
| 13:59.49 | florinm | i get lots of errors now :( |
| 13:59.53 | ManxPower | oej: I wanted non-anonymous enum access to my internal servers. |
| 14:00.21 | jas_williams | florinm Line 234 how many lines do you have in zapata.conf ? |
| 14:00.22 | ManxPower | without putting the password in enum |
| 14:00.30 | florinm | http://pastebin.ca/16844 |
| 14:01.03 | florinm | 207 -> is the start of your config |
| 14:01.07 | jas_williams | florinm you put those lines in zaptel.conf not zapata.conf |
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| 14:01.23 | florinm | auch :P |
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| 14:01.41 | florinm | mia culpa ;) |
| 14:01.46 | jas_williams | :-) |
| 14:02.14 | ManxPower | LOL! Someone trying to get meetme working on an Asterisk@home installed in some kind of virtual machine. |
| 14:02.25 | cavin888 | anyone willing to chat to an Asterisk newbie??? |
| 14:02.36 | jas_williams | leave zaptel.conf as http://pastebin.ca/16842 |
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| 14:02.48 | Ariel_ | morning everyone |
| 14:02.59 | ManxPower | I really should clean the apartment before the significant other gets here. |
| 14:03.14 | Ariel_ | cavin888, ask the question is the only way your going to get a responce. |
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| 14:03.29 | ManxPower | Ugh. Another damn tropical storm heading my way. |
| 14:03.49 | puzzled | hello |
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| 14:04.01 | jas_williams | ManxPower don't clean the apartment leave the window open and blame it on the storm |
| 14:04.18 | ManxPower | jas_williams: The storm isn't due to arrive for a few days. 8-| |
| 14:04.35 | puzzled | anyone have an IP addy of a working cvs server? |
| 14:04.53 | PaddyLar | Looking for a little help with * thought this might be the right place... |
| 14:05.16 | Ariel_ | PaddyLar, yes it is the right place. |
| 14:05.26 | jas_williams | PaddyLar ask a question and we might be able to help also the wiki is a good place to search |
| 14:05.29 | PaddyLar | Looking to setup a termination service |
| 14:05.41 | PaddyLar | IAX to PSTN |
| 14:05.48 | jas_williams | k |
| 14:06.12 | PaddyLar | Ive been cheating by using Ast@home |
| 14:06.15 | Ariel_ | puzzled, IP addy?? what's is it? |
| 14:06.47 | puzzled | Ariel_: ip address. logging into cvs gives me a cvs [login aborted]: connect to cvs.digium.com(66.250.69.240):2401 failed: Connection refused |
| 14:06.50 | Ariel_ | PaddyLar, why would you call that cheating? |
| 14:06.52 | PaddyLar | Got the box setup, have it hooked up to a PRI 23chans US |
| 14:07.20 | Ariel_ | puzzled, ahh I get it now. |
| 14:07.30 | ManxPower | Well, PaddyLar has guts, that's for sure. |
| 14:07.42 | florinm | any other settings do i need to do for the card or now just asterisk settings ;) ? |
| 14:07.43 | darylp | can anyone point me to a good resource that describes how cell phones resolve 911 locations, or if they even do? |
| 14:07.55 | darylp | that is, how they resolve location for 911 calls |
| 14:08.03 | florinm | location ? |
| 14:08.05 | *** join/#asterisk doughecka_ (~Miranda@doughecka.user) |
| 14:08.06 | florinm | simple ;) |
| 14:08.17 | florinm | ur mobile phone "see" 3 cells |
| 14:08.21 | Ariel_ | PaddyLar, ok so your connected to a pri now what? |
| 14:08.27 | PaddyLar | My problem is getting another * box to connect to the PSTN bridge |
| 14:08.31 | ManxPower | darylp: they either report the ID of the nearest cell tower or (newer phones) it transmits the location as determined by using GPS. |
| 14:08.33 | darylp | they use triangualation? |
| 14:08.37 | florinm | depending of the signal level, then know where u are |
| 14:08.42 | ManxPower | The reporting method is specific to cell service. |
| 14:08.46 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: phones don't have GPS receivers |
| 14:08.49 | jas_williams | florinm if you have zaptel.conf and zapata.conf as I stated then asterisk is next you may need to change the incoming context in zapata.conf but asterisk should now start |
| 14:08.57 | florinm | thanks |
| 14:09.05 | ManxPower | gordonjcp: you have apparently not gotten a new cell phone recently. |
| 14:09.06 | florinm | some phones has gps |
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| 14:09.16 | florinm | but they do not use it for location ;) |
| 14:09.25 | florinm | is the triangulation stuff only |
| 14:09.27 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: yes, fairly recently. You can buy a phone with a GPS built in, but that is not how the phone is located |
| 14:09.27 | skrusty | anyone got any queue logs they dont mind donating to a queue log analizer project? |
| 14:09.31 | florinm | what phone is ;) ? |
| 14:09.43 | florinm | i might help you to enable some secret menu ;) |
| 14:10.08 | PaddyLar | I have been trying to figure out how to connect to the bridge box from another ast box I have at home using the same method used by the other service providers |
| 14:10.40 | PaddyLar | I am really not sure how I should approach this. |
| 14:10.51 | gordonjcp | florinm: and at that, you need to be in range of three towers, or two if you are prepared to guess a bit |
| 14:11.01 | ManxPower | "Sprint and other operators using global positioning satellite (GPS) location technology in their phones" |
| 14:11.21 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: they can't be, because phones don't have GPS receivers in them |
| 14:11.21 | ManxPower | http://news.com.com/More+alarms+over+cell+phone+E911/2100-1037_3-5772018.html?part=rss&tag=5772018&subj=news |
| 14:11.36 | gordonjcp | Oh, it was on news.com.com? Must be true, then |
| 14:11.38 | PaddyLar | I am not sure if I should set them up peer to peer, or as an extension? |
| 14:11.41 | ManxPower | gordonjcp: cite your source. |
| 14:11.53 | florinm | so |
| 14:12.00 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: look at *any* mobile phone you see |
| 14:12.03 | gordonjcp | do you see a GPS chipset? |
| 14:12.17 | florinm | is no GPS chipset in , but is same tehnologie :P |
| 14:12.36 | gordonjcp | florinm: it's done by logging relative signal strengths at the towers |
| 14:12.39 | PaddyLar | Anyone in here setup an * box as a brige for other * boxes. |
| 14:12.47 | florinm | depending the distence between 3 cells (sattelites) then can do your location :P |
| 14:12.56 | florinm | yes 100% that |
| 14:13.07 | florinm | if u have a nokia |
| 14:13.09 | darylp | I was curious how they managed to resolve that issue. |
| 14:13.14 | florinm | i can activate netmonitor |
| 14:13.20 | florinm | and u get info about cells :P |
| 14:13.25 | ManxPower | gordonjcp: Would Consumer Reports be a better source? http://www.consumerreports.org/main/content/display_report.jsp?WebLogicSession=QslDx3ip2D2dQYejAKmtVlZClXJNLPTV8IJy2QyTm2Rk2UXUS6co|8882122804884371552/169937909/6/7005/7005/7002/7002/7005/-1|5298542958250215617/169937910/6/7005/7005/7002/7002/7005/-1&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=378647&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=333133&bmUID=1120486344051 |
| 14:13.26 | florinm | the nearby cells |
| 14:13.34 | darylp | I was wondering if it is more reliable than e911 |
| 14:13.52 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: no |
| 14:13.55 | gordonjcp | they would not |
| 14:13.59 | PaddyLar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:14.35 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: it's not using GPS, it's triangulating from signal strength |
| 14:14.39 | florinm | why u need to know about the location stuff ? |
| 14:14.46 | Ariel_ | PaddyLar, here is a sample of what you need: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=26418&group_id=121515 |
| 14:14.49 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: GPS would be a stupid solution |
| 14:14.57 | gordonjcp | for example, it doesn't work inside buildings |
| 14:15.01 | ManxPower | perhaps a citation from Nokia about their own phones? http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,62625,00.htm |
| 14:15.03 | coppice | the new PDA phone from HP has a GPS receiver. I think there is a motorola phone that does. no other GSM phones do |
| 14:15.28 | florinm | Motorola A1000, A835, A825 has GPS chipset |
| 14:15.31 | darylp | What's the best solution for 911 on an all voip network? |
| 14:15.31 | Ariel_ | PaddyLar, and yes I have connected 2 aah systems. also you might get more help on the #amportal since some here don't like aah. |
| 14:15.42 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: that is a specific add-on for a particular phone |
| 14:15.51 | PaddyLar | Thank you Ariel. |
| 14:15.58 | ManxPower | darylp: there is no good solution |
| 14:16.13 | *** join/#asterisk isamar (~isamar@p8131-ipadfx21sasajima.aichi.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 14:16.15 | florinm | but is used mostly for 3g services (point to point map ) |
| 14:16.16 | isamar | hi folks |
| 14:16.23 | isamar | anybody using ser with ASTERISK? |
| 14:16.31 | ManxPower | darylp: Why do you think all the US based VoIP carriers are screaming about the new FCC e911 VoIP rules? |
| 14:16.32 | The_LightSide | what is the difference between aah and * |
| 14:16.45 | PaddyLar | Ariel, Is this the same was as FWD? |
| 14:16.51 | *** join/#asterisk ETH_ (~user@bgp01138266bgs.ypwest01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 14:16.57 | florinm | aah is GUI for * :P |
| 14:17.05 | ManxPower | The_LightSide: AAH is a web based config interface for Asterisk for those people not smart enough to learn the actual config files. |
| 14:17.05 | isamar | I need a sample ser.cfg to *just* forward ser calls to asterisk without MYSQL stuff |
| 14:17.07 | florinm | a simpler user intaller |
| 14:17.11 | Ariel_ | The_LightSide, not a thing other then some pre-configured settings. But some don't like the use of amp nor pre done systems. |
| 14:17.15 | isamar | anybody has that? |
| 14:17.22 | Ariel_ | PaddyLar, no |
| 14:17.49 | The_LightSide | k, thanks ManxPower, Ariel_ |
| 14:17.49 | florinm | AAH is a bit restrictive :P is made special for RH linux ;) |
| 14:18.01 | Ariel_ | florinm, no it's not |
| 14:18.04 | florinm | but with lots of changes it will work on any distributios :P |
| 14:18.10 | PaddyLar | oh, any ideas, on how FWD setup their end? |
| 14:18.18 | darylp | it's pretty easy to get it to install on fedora |
| 14:18.45 | tzafrir | aah is an installer for asterisk and AMP. AMP is a web-based gui for asterisk |
| 14:18.47 | florinm | ariel, it use hardcoded locations |
| 14:18.49 | Ariel_ | PaddyLar, FWD is setup as a sip system more then it's iax2 and iax2 is one box that there testing ro in beta. |
| 14:19.15 | isamar | Ariel_: hi |
| 14:19.16 | Ariel_ | florinm, there are many different hard styles of doing things. |
| 14:19.22 | florinm | yes ;) |
| 14:19.23 | isamar | have played with SER ? |
| 14:19.24 | ETH_ | my IAX client (firefly) is able to make outbound calls, but for inbound, it will ring and you can pick up, the client shows it is in call, but the ring continues. anyone could help? THX! |
| 14:19.36 | isamar | SER or not SER.. that's question... |
| 14:19.41 | florinm | i've installed the AAH on suse 9.3 |
| 14:19.46 | Ariel_ | florinm, but it's setup for AAH as an iso which has to do that for ease of setup. |
| 14:19.50 | tzafrir | AAH is made for CentOS, which is a (trademark-removed) clone of RHEL |
| 14:19.52 | florinm | but for beginers is not a easy way ;) |
| 14:20.08 | Ariel_ | if you want amp you set it up from amp directly and don't use aah |
| 14:20.13 | florinm | yes, the iso is great |
| 14:20.19 | florinm | but didn't work for me :P |
| 14:20.22 | PaddyLar | hmmmm, I understand that FWD is primarily a SIP interconnect, but I have been using IAX with them quite successfully. |
| 14:20.22 | ManxPower | isamar: "not to ser" is usually the question, unless you have a large number of users and those users call each other. |
| 14:20.31 | florinm | didn't detect my card at all (TDM400) |
| 14:20.53 | Ariel_ | florinm, sorry to hear that. I has on all of my setups. |
| 14:21.01 | The_LightSide | florinm: i heard u need a hard reset to get it working |
| 14:21.12 | florinm | aa |
| 14:21.24 | florinm | anyway i prefered the hardway ;) |
| 14:21.26 | PaddyLar | I also use JunctionNetworks with an IAX connect, I am just trying to figure out how they do it on their end. |
| 14:21.29 | The_LightSide | florinm a mate was also strugling - hard reboot sorted |
| 14:21.31 | florinm | manal configs :P |
| 14:21.51 | florinm | so i scrap it and put fresh suse 9.3 :P |
| 14:22.04 | florinm | and did all from 0 ;) |
| 14:22.12 | The_LightSide | and it worked/ |
| 14:22.13 | The_LightSide | ? |
| 14:22.18 | florinm | u know no pain, no gain ;) |
| 14:22.23 | florinm | i've noticed too |
| 14:22.24 | The_LightSide | lol |
| 14:22.41 | florinm | need to power off system, and then restart and TDM card works ok |
| 14:22.51 | florinm | if u restart, it will NOT work :( |
| 14:22.55 | florinm | don't know why :( |
| 14:23.00 | ManxPower | florinm: *nod* That's a pretty common problem. |
| 14:23.21 | florinm | yes :P |
| 14:23.22 | ManxPower | I've not seen it in a while. Do you have an older TDM card or older drivers? |
| 14:23.30 | florinm | my ethernet card does the same |
| 14:23.39 | florinm | is a BRAND new card :P |
| 14:23.49 | ManxPower | What rev does it say it is? |
| 14:23.50 | florinm | and i allways use cvs head |
| 14:23.55 | florinm | Rev I |
| 14:24.00 | ManxPower | Ah. |
| 14:24.04 | florinm | what ? |
| 14:24.07 | florinm | I is old? |
| 14:24.07 | ManxPower | Prolly just a crappy notherboard then |
| 14:24.18 | florinm | nope |
| 14:24.24 | florinm | is a cool pc ;) |
| 14:24.27 | PaddyLar | Anyone see why, Suse might be better than RHE for an * box? |
| 14:24.30 | ManxPower | I is either the newest or close to the newist. It's not "old" |
| 14:24.32 | florinm | everything else is working ) |
| 14:24.38 | shido6 | whew |
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| 14:24.48 | florinm | that ethernet problem is on different pc ;) |
| 14:24.57 | PaddyLar | I know SUSE is Carrier grade certified. |
| 14:24.59 | isamar | anyone using SER?? |
| 14:25.07 | ManxPower | when the drivers don't see the card, does lspci show the card? |
| 14:25.08 | shido6 | isnt everyone, isamar? :) |
| 14:25.11 | florinm | SUSE 9.3 has asterisk in it ;) |
| 14:25.25 | florinm | it shows it ok |
| 14:25.35 | *** part/#asterisk isamar (~isamar@p8131-ipadfx21sasajima.aichi.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 14:25.35 | florinm | only the modules refuse to load!!! |
| 14:25.44 | PaddyLar | But * was devoloped on RH |
| 14:25.48 | ManxPower | florinm: then report the lspci info to support@digium.com with a description of the problem |
| 14:25.55 | florinm | yes no problem |
| 14:25.58 | florinm | when i go home |
| 14:26.02 | florinm | since i have it there :P |
| 14:26.10 | ManxPower | chances are it's the "PCI card ID randomly changes" problem. |
| 14:26.13 | florinm | i will not reboot pc from here :P |
| 14:26.24 | florinm | since my wife will be without phone line :P |
| 14:26.25 | *** join/#asterisk outofjungle (~outofjung@61.246.103.251) |
| 14:27.18 | shido6 | ait |
| 14:27.25 | shido6 | you cannot leave the wife without a phone |
| 14:27.28 | shido6 | unless you dont want her around |
| 14:27.34 | florinm | is not that she talks a lot |
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| 14:27.55 | florinm | we have a wee boy (5 weeks old) and never know if she need emercency call ;) |
| 14:28.04 | shido6 | ur gonna cut her from her connect to the world |
| 14:28.12 | Ariel_ | PaddyLar, which distro do you like best. |
| 14:28.15 | florinm | she has internet ;) |
| 14:28.38 | florinm | :D |
| 14:28.48 | florinm | aa |
| 14:28.52 | florinm | about gsm stuff |
| 14:29.05 | florinm | anyone integrated a gsm phone to work with * ? |
| 14:29.24 | shido6 | ATEUS |
| 14:29.24 | florinm | i can write the modem drivers for it if u want ;) |
| 14:29.25 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, I don't think it's going to happen. |
| 14:29.30 | shido6 | GSM box, yes, florinm |
| 14:29.50 | ManxPower | Ariel_: It would be politically tough to do. |
| 14:29.51 | florinm | no, a normal GSM phone with a usb cable connected to the linux |
| 14:30.28 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, I actually think there should be some type of mandatory service here for all. |
| 14:31.22 | florinm | ? |
| 14:31.46 | ManxPower | Ariel_: While the idea of torturing youth does have it's apeal, I don't really think it's a good thing. |
| 14:32.26 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, well I don't think that the youth here is heading in the right direction. |
| 14:32.45 | ManxPower | Ariel_: I agree, but I don't think torture is the answer. |
| 14:32.46 | Ariel_ | And the military is not tortur. |
| 14:32.55 | Ariel_ | tortur/turture |
| 14:33.04 | Ariel_ | argh can't spell today. |
| 14:33.09 | Juggie | and you think military sends youth in the right direction? |
| 14:33.23 | Ariel_ | actually I think that would help. let me go get them off the night stand. |
| 14:33.37 | florinm | politics boys ;) ? |
| 14:34.03 | ManxPower | Juggie: it teaches discipline and killing. What else is there to learn? |
| 14:34.15 | Juggie | i guess those are the fundamentals eh |
| 14:34.29 | florinm | my dad was in army, and he enjoyed every day ;) |
| 14:34.34 | florinm | his program: |
| 14:34.40 | florinm | 9 arrive at work |
| 14:35.01 | ManxPower | And really, do you want today's youth to actually learn to properly use weapons? |
| 14:35.02 | florinm | 9:15 ask solder to guard that boss doesn't show up, and he went to bed |
| 14:35.12 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, I was for 8.5 years in the US Airforce and other then in training I never carried or shot a gun. |
| 14:35.25 | florinm | 16:45 clock alarm ring, go to see big boss:P |
| 14:35.31 | florinm | 17:00 going home :P |
| 14:35.50 | florinm | time to time he was fixings things in the station ;) |
| 14:36.00 | florinm | but 98% he enjoyes a nice sleep ;) |
| 14:36.11 | florinm | and good pay ;) |
| 14:36.13 | Juggie | Ariel_, is ther some kind of medal we could give you for that? |
| 14:36.17 | ManxPower | If someone is insane enough to join the military, I say more power to them. |
| 14:36.32 | Ariel_ | hehehe |
| 14:36.37 | florinm | i wanted to join them ;) but i got refused :P |
| 14:37.13 | Juggie | and what are you flying now |
| 14:37.29 | Delvar | ok im in need of some help... Asterisk voicemail email, the time shown in teh email is GMT but the server is set to BST so the time given in the email is 1 hour out. |
| 14:37.31 | florinm | if u want to lear to fly come to scotland ;) |
| 14:37.43 | Delvar | where do i fix this?.. iv looked and googled but i cant find it |
| 14:37.45 | Ariel_ | Juggie, a polish airplane... Called a Koliber 150a |
| 14:37.47 | florinm | the company i work for have flying school : |
| 14:38.08 | florinm | arround 3 grand for a full PPL course ;) |
| 14:38.17 | ManxPower | Delvar: there are many timezone options in voicemail.conf |
| 14:39.06 | Ariel_ | florinm, there are many flight schools all over the world. Here in Florida is one place where there open all year round. |
| 14:39.29 | florinm | yes ;) how much is there>?? |
| 14:39.43 | florinm | if i get cheaper i'll love to do it ;) |
| 14:40.07 | florinm | the company i work for offer me a 25% discount and i wanted to see if i can get it cheaper ;) |
| 14:40.11 | Ariel_ | florinm, it really depends on the student. No one learns at the same pace. But it's any where from $ 4500 to 10,000 dollars depending on the requirements for the student. |
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| 14:40.46 | *** join/#asterisk wiseguy_ (chivilis@85.206.10.21) |
| 14:40.49 | wiseguy_ | hellow guys |
| 14:40.51 | florinm | auch |
| 14:40.52 | wiseguy_ | :-) |
| 14:40.53 | florinm | to much :P |
| 14:40.59 | florinm | better i'll do it here ;) |
| 14:41.12 | Ariel_ | florinm, biggest expense is the fuel cost for airplanes now. 100ll here in the states is over $ 4.00 a gallon. |
| 14:41.24 | wiseguy_ | how to describe a callerid depending on caller number? |
| 14:41.37 | gordonjcp | Mmmmm, 100LL |
| 14:41.45 | florinm | auch |
| 14:41.46 | Delvar | ManxPower: what about the default timezone... i only want one timezone and i dont want to specify it per account |
| 14:42.09 | ManxPower | Delvar: no idea. I specify a timeszone for all my accounts |
| 14:42.17 | Delvar | bugger |
| 14:42.19 | wiseguy_ | :-) |
| 14:42.29 | Ariel_ | Delvar, TZ= |
| 14:42.29 | Delvar | maybe i jsut need to restart asterisk |
| 14:42.44 | Delvar | Ariel_: i know that but thanks |
| 14:42.57 | gordonjcp | florinm: if you want to learn to fly, doing your PPL-M is a good place to start |
| 14:43.08 | Ariel_ | like ManxPower I set it up for each user |
| 14:43.16 | gordonjcp | £3000 for a two week course in Portugal |
| 14:43.17 | Delvar | ill try restarting asterisk when the number of calls drops a bit lowere |
| 14:43.27 | ManxPower | Ariel_: sometimes it's not not worth fighting Asterisk, eh? |
| 14:43.56 | florinm | i can do it here at work ;) (the company i work has it for 3000 GBP too, but for employs is 25% off ;) ) |
| 14:43.57 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, yes your correct. |
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| 14:44.17 | gordonjcp | florinm: oooh, where do you work? |
| 14:44.31 | Ariel_ | florinm, there is a new Pilot lisc type in the US called Sports Pilot which can be done in 20 hours and under 2000 dollars. |
| 14:44.35 | Delvar | ManxPower/Ariel_: i use realtime so doing that wont be too hard to do, but i was just wondering if there was a way to set default timezone.... |
| 14:44.51 | florinm | cool ;) |
| 14:44.55 | florinm | where about ? |
| 14:44.56 | gordonjcp | florinm: and can you get enough flying hours done in Scotland in two weeks? |
| 14:45.11 | florinm | if wheather is ok, then yes ;) |
| 14:45.18 | florinm | if not i'm buggered :P |
| 14:45.26 | gordonjcp | florinm: heh |
| 14:45.32 | florinm | here 85% time rains |
| 14:45.38 | florinm | i'm sick of it |
| 14:45.44 | gordonjcp | florinm: are you based at Scumbernauld? |
| 14:45.57 | florinm | :P |
| 14:45.59 | florinm | yes |
| 14:46.08 | gordonjcp | ahaaa, you'll maybe know thinker then |
| 14:46.10 | Ariel_ | florinm, why do you think there are so many flight schools in Arizona and Florida it's due to the weather. |
| 14:46.18 | florinm | yep |
| 14:48.38 | Ariel_ | It's a great sunny day today. I am thinking of taking a flight around the bay. Open the canopy and enjoy the flight. |
| 14:49.01 | florinm | here is suny too :P |
| 14:49.46 | gordonjcp | cloudy but warm here |
| 14:49.48 | gordonjcp | http://www.gjcp.net/cgi-bin/map.py |
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| 14:53.48 | Ariel_ | ~weather KTMB |
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| 14:58.35 | florinm | re |
| 14:58.38 | florinm | back to * |
| 14:58.40 | florinm | Jul 4 15:57:37 ERROR[26669] chan_zap.c: Signalling requested on channel 16 is PRI Signalling but line is in Unknown signallin |
| 14:58.40 | florinm | g 896 signalling |
| 14:58.40 | florinm | Jul 4 15:57:37 ERROR[26669] chan_zap.c: Unable to register channel '1-31' |
| 14:58.40 | florinm | Jul 4 15:57:37 WARNING[26669] loader.c: chan_zap.so: load_module failed, returning -1 |
| 14:59.39 | florinm | <jas_williams> any idea? |
| 14:59.54 | *** part/#asterisk der[mat] (~mat@gate-nue0.bintec.de) |
| 15:00.40 | florinm | ??? |
| 15:01.53 | Ariel_ | florinm, should you not have channels 1-15 then 17-31 setup. |
| 15:02.12 | Ariel_ | d channel is 16? |
| 15:06.54 | ManxPower | It REALLY sucks that interest rates in the USA are up another .25 points |
| 15:07.29 | ManxPower | My largest client is a real estate company. 8-( |
| 15:08.23 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, yes but loans are at a 1 year low. |
| 15:08.50 | darylp | does anyone have any experience with a zyxel p200w v.3 |
| 15:08.53 | darylp | v.2? |
| 15:09.53 | ManxPower | Ariel_: Maybe so, but the residential market is shrinking quickly. |
| 15:10.46 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, down here it's a sellers markit. I am going to put my home up next month and moving up to the Ocala area. |
| 15:11.04 | *** join/#asterisk Myshenka (~gunde@217.9.101.85) |
| 15:11.26 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, I have seen my house price go from 149,000 3 years ago not to $ 285,000 it's great. |
| 15:11.41 | Ariel_ | not/to |
| 15:12.53 | Myshenka | I have a little language problem when reading through the RealTime documentation on voip-info.org |
| 15:12.54 | ManxPower | Maybe so, but at least around here interest rates are a primary concern. |
| 15:13.54 | Myshenka | On http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+RealTime+Sip it says "You can keep any sip users in the flatfile AND use RealTime." whereas on http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+RealTime+Static it says "You can only store a static config OR a RealTime config." Isn't that contradictory? |
| 15:13.57 | Beirdo | 3777min. for one person |
| 15:15.15 | nowork | hi, does SER have a irc chat room like what we hv now/?what is it.thx |
| 15:16.19 | ManxPower | did you even try #ser? |
| 15:16.51 | nowork | thx ManxPower, i am in now; |
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| 15:17.16 | nowork | SER; * Topic is 'Im fucking sleepy :P' |
| 15:18.35 | Beirdo | who's sleepy, and why are they fucking... |
| 15:18.37 | Beirdo | heh |
| 15:18.57 | Delvar | yep restart fixed teh voicemail email time problem.. thanks for your input |
| 15:19.09 | ManxPower | Maybe sleepy is one of the 7 dwarves? |
| 15:19.47 | nowork | can I install * and SER in the same box? |
| 15:20.27 | coppice | "She felt sleepy and happy, who thanked her kindly for this gesture" :-) |
| 15:20.34 | ManxPower | nowork: Why would you want to? Heck, why do you even want to use SER? |
| 15:21.13 | ManxPower | Do you have 10,000 users? Do you have 200 users that call each other frequently? |
| 15:21.48 | ManxPower | If you are using SER to solve NAT problems, then you are using an SUV to do something a motorcycle could do. |
| 15:21.57 | coppice | frequently seems a strange name for 200 people to call each other |
| 15:22.40 | Myshenka | is nobody here using Realtime? |
| 15:22.54 | ManxPower | ~mailinglist |
| 15:22.54 | jbot | somebody said mailinglist was Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/ |
| 15:22.54 | Delvar | < me |
| 15:23.10 | Ariel_ | See you all later I am going out for a nice flight over the bay. See you later. |
| 15:23.22 | florinm | :D |
| 15:23.36 | ManxPower | You have a wife, a child, AND a plane? |
| 15:23.51 | coppice | See you all later. I'm going for a flight over the south china sea |
| 15:23.54 | ManxPower | Careful, Ariel_, you'll make the universe implode. |
| 15:24.34 | coppice | I have a wife, two children and airline tickets. |
| 15:25.33 | Delvar | iv got a pen |
| 15:25.50 | Delvar | well its not mine.. i jsut work here so i get to use it |
| 15:26.02 | coppice | fountain pen, or ball point? |
| 15:26.08 | Delvar | ball |
| 15:26.20 | coppice | oh, you are a poor fellow |
| 15:26.30 | Delvar | realy nice one tho .. says 'digum' on th side... |
| 15:26.39 | Delvar | digium* |
| 15:26.43 | coppice | does it work? |
| 15:26.51 | Delvar | yep very well tbh |
| 15:27.35 | jhava | Hello all, I'm using an AS5300 to PSTN, and * as a Voicemail for customers and stuff. I need to route some calls through * with an anouncement to the called person (Dial(SIP/AS5300,20,A(Anouncefile)), but it does so before the other party really answers |
| 15:27.55 | Delvar | anyway as entertaining as my pen is i have to get back to hacking round with asterisk.... |
| 15:28.03 | coppice | the name on the side means nothing. I'm using a pen that says china national ballet, but I've never seen it dance |
| 15:28.23 | jhava | seems like * - AS5300 sip problem, but could not figure out, where can I find more info ? or Any clues that you might have ? |
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| 15:31.38 | Zeeek | can someone add "Asterisk Lunch in Paris Fri July 8" to the title? |
| 15:34.23 | nowork | ManxPower: I am going to fill 8E1 that is why newly installed SER; |
| 15:36.05 | ManxPower | You don't need SER to just use 8 E1s |
| 15:36.49 | ManxPower | nowork: What SPECIFIC problem are you trying to solve with SER? |
| 15:39.22 | nowork | hm, so, * can do everything SER can do?.not SpEciFIC problem, i just happened google and saw ppl said use SER and * together;. |
| 15:42.44 | *** join/#asterisk Saaib (~nabudocon@red-corp-200.76.231.14.telnor.net) |
| 15:43.45 | ManxPower | No. SER is a full blown SIP proxy. Asterisk is a SIP UA. |
| 15:44.34 | ManxPower | SER allows you to rewrite SIP packets, for example. Granted, I can only think of one reason for a typical Asterisk to rewrite SIP packets. |
| 15:44.39 | file | B2BUA |
| 15:45.12 | ManxPower | maybe nowork is being paid by the hour to set up Asterisk 8-) |
| 15:46.30 | ManxPower | nowork: thousands and thousands of people use SIP and Asterisk without SER |
| 15:47.44 | ManxPower | nowork: Maybe you will need SER. But don't add yet another complicated, hard to configure piece of software to the mix unless you REALLY need it. |
| 15:48.27 | nowork | Thanks ManxPower;..will try it on a seperate box; |
| 15:48.41 | ManxPower | try not using SER at all. |
| 15:48.46 | nowork | :- |
| 15:48.54 | Delvar | SER is good at handiling large scale registrations/call routing.. asterisk isnt.. |
| 15:49.32 | jhava | Is there a way to avoid SIP native brigde for a certain call ? i.e., asterisk remains in the middle of the call at all times ? |
| 15:49.47 | ManxPower | Delvar: Ariel has 2000 SIP accounts, IAXtel has MANY accounts. |
| 15:49.54 | Delvar | jhava: canreinvite=no in sip.conf entity |
| 15:49.59 | ManxPower | jhava: no. Only on a per account basis. |
| 15:50.30 | Delvar | ManxPower: yeah i said large scale... 2000 isnt realy large. |
| 15:50.46 | jhava | Delvar: I used canreinvite=no and still does bridging |
| 15:50.51 | ManxPower | Delvar: depends on your point of view. |
| 15:50.59 | ManxPower | jhava: then you have an authentication problem. |
| 15:51.27 | ManxPower | to me 2000 is a large scale. To IAXtel, 2000 is tiny. |
| 15:51.38 | Delvar | good point :) |
| 15:51.41 | jhava | ManxPower: how is it on a per account basis ? I am Using an AS5300 as a PSTN Gateway, it is not authenticating per se |
| 15:51.50 | *** join/#asterisk epablo (~epablo@200.75.151.186) |
| 15:51.51 | ManxPower | jhava: then you cannot do it. |
| 15:51.54 | jhava | I don't want it to be a SIP UA |
| 15:52.11 | epablo | Hi guys, how's it going? |
| 15:52.27 | ManxPower | jhava: then you might be a canidate to look at SER, since it sounds like your specific problem cannot be solved in Asterisk. |
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| 15:53.08 | jhava | Thank you both. I'll search more info with this. |
| 15:53.10 | epablo | I've got a question on dialplans and cdr's. Does anyone have 5 min to help me out? |
| 15:54.02 | ManxPower | jhava: well you have SOMETHING in sip.conf for the AS, right? |
| 15:54.21 | Zeeek | epablo ask |
| 15:54.49 | epablo | I have an AGI that does some number processing and then dials using OH323. (6.5 on * 1.0.8) |
| 15:54.49 | jhava | Yes, using AMPORTAL, so avery configuration is entered as a Trunk |
| 15:55.11 | jhava | in SIP.CONF, canreinvite=no, type=peer, |
| 15:55.13 | ManxPower | jhava: well paste your sip.conf to pastebin.ca |
| 15:55.40 | epablo | My * has been hang on me.. So I think it is my AGI. What I tried to do is ONLY process the number then let the dialplan do the dialing |
| 15:55.58 | jhava | Newbie there, what's pastebin.ca ? |
| 15:56.01 | ManxPower | jhava: put context=INVALID in [general] in sip.conf, then put the correct context= line for each of the sip.conf sections. If calls fail, then the incoming call is not matching a sip.conf section. |
| 15:56.03 | ManxPower | ~pastebin |
| 15:56.03 | jbot | it has been said that pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 15:56.36 | jhava | ok |
| 15:56.41 | Zeeek | ~Manxpower |
| 15:56.41 | jbot | rumour has it, manxpower is your God. |
| 15:56.47 | Zeeek | muhahahaha |
| 15:56.56 | epablo | so I have a exten => _.,1,agi, myagi.agi and then I placed a exten=> _011.,1,dial(oh323/${EXTEN}). But When I do it I get no cdrs |
| 15:57.03 | epablo | any ideas? |
| 15:57.59 | epablo | PD: The AGI converts dialed numbers from localnumber to 011<cc><ac>localnumber |
| 15:59.02 | ManxPower | epablo: have you confirmed that OH323 even supports CVRs? |
| 15:59.09 | jhava | Manpower: too much delicate info on sip.conf right now, I'll try your suggestion of Context=INVIALID |
| 15:59.17 | ManxPower | jhava: no. |
| 15:59.21 | ManxPower | context=invalid. |
| 15:59.23 | ManxPower | ..er.. |
| 15:59.26 | ManxPower | context=INVALID |
| 15:59.35 | jhava | ok |
| 15:59.36 | ManxPower | I don't know if sip.conf is case sensitive or not. |
| 15:59.40 | epablo | Zeeek: did you follow? |
| 15:59.50 | Zeeek | yes but I have no valid data for you |
| 16:00.01 | Zeeek | if anyone can help, they will speak up |
| 16:00.11 | epablo | Zeeek: Thanks |
| 16:00.55 | ManxPower | epablo: none of the hits in your google search of "site:lists.digium.com OH323 CDR" were helpful? |
| 16:00.56 | *** join/#asterisk The_Duke (~the_duke@80.92.64.103) |
| 16:00.58 | Zeeek | actually if you hadn't mentioned oh323 I may have answered "canreinvite=no" which is the answet about 80% of the questions |
| 16:01.51 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (~joe@4.67.252.216.dsl1.colba.net) |
| 16:02.37 | Zeeek | why did the simple phrase "get a virtual phone number" suck hundreds of thousands of us into VoIP? |
| 16:02.53 | The_Duke | how can I send a "Not Found" or a message equal to PRI_CAUSE=1 via SIP??? |
| 16:03.09 | ManxPower | Zeeek: It didn't for me. The phrase "call my signifcant other for free" is what did it for me. |
| 16:03.27 | Zeeek | yeah, well that too |
| 16:03.34 | epablo | ManxPower: Didn't do that query exactlly. But nothing I search helped. Here's why I think the problems is the dialplan: When the AGI does the oh323 dial cdrs are A OK |
| 16:03.45 | ManxPower | The_Duke: Usually the call being rejected by Asterisk will be close enough |
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| 16:05.33 | MikeJ[Laptop] | errr |
| 16:05.50 | Derkommissar | is there any IAX clients for linux that can read the address book from evolution ? |
| 16:05.57 | [TK]D-Fender | So anyone have an idea how long it will take for Digium to release an echo-cancelling 1 Port T1 card? |
| 16:06.25 | JunK-Y | tk: isnt already released? |
| 16:06.31 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ouch |
| 16:06.38 | JunK-Y | i know 4 ports are already released. |
| 16:06.44 | skeffling | hi, I'm looking to listen in on a call, I've seen ChanSpy, but wanting to listen in to a particular SIP extension, and can't seem to find an * applicaton that does this |
| 16:07.56 | [TK]D-Fender | I've seent he 4 port listed, but no 1-port, and I'm getting frigtfully close to my potential install date |
| 16:08.13 | The_Duke | ManxPower: in this case I really have to send it manually... |
| 16:08.57 | file | I doubt there will be a 1 port with echocan |
| 16:09.51 | ManxPower | The_Duke: best of luck |
| 16:09.59 | Luke-Jr | What is needed to make priorities such as 'n(label)' work? |
| 16:10.15 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: cvs-head |
| 16:11.08 | JunK-Y | tk: if ur not sure about t1 port, make some search, if u cant find any releavant info, sales@digium.com, and ask them about ur t1 1 port. |
| 16:11.34 | nowork | ManxPower, so * is not good to be used as proxy? |
| 16:11.52 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: ah, thanks |
| 16:12.02 | ManxPower | nowork: If you need a PROXY, rather than a PSTN Gateway and PBX, then SER is something to look into. |
| 16:13.35 | ManxPower | I've never needed SER, but I work in a corporate enviroment, rather than a carrier enviroment. |
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| 16:15.01 | iq | hi |
| 16:15.14 | blitzrage | how goes y'all? |
| 16:16.25 | epablo | ManxPower: Thanks for the tip. Got it working.. I was missing the AMA flags (billing) on my oh323.conf |
| 16:16.31 | blitzrage | file: awesome, good to hear. How was your Canada Day? |
| 16:17.22 | MikeJ[Laptop] | what, you guys don't celebrate the 4th of July up there ? :D |
| 16:17.30 | blitzrage | whats that? |
| 16:17.50 | MikeJ[Laptop] | you are pretty much americans... you might as well celebrate our holidays too |
| 16:17.54 | file[laptop] | blitzrage: I coded... coded... and coded some more! |
| 16:17.57 | MikeJ[Laptop] | heheh |
| 16:18.20 | blitzrage | MikeJ[Laptop]: how little you really know then :) |
| 16:18.57 | MikeJ[Laptop] | what are you trying to say... the world doesn't revolve around the US's whim? |
| 16:19.54 | MikeJ[Laptop] | they have these great bumper stickers now... they are an all blue background, then in white type, about a 1/2 " high it says "We need a better president" |
| 16:20.02 | MikeJ[Laptop] | short, simple, too the point |
| 16:20.05 | worta | Hi there. Anybody who has got HiPath 4k <-> Asterisk via ZapTel & QSIG working? |
| 16:20.41 | blitzrage | MikeJ[Laptop]: yes you do :) |
| 16:20.58 | MikeJ[Laptop] | indeed |
| 16:21.14 | ManxPower | blitzrage is a canuck? |
| 16:21.14 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hey, our state didn't vote for him.. |
| 16:21.22 | file[laptop] | ManxPower: yup |
| 16:21.27 | MikeJ[Laptop] | and neither did I |
| 16:21.32 | ManxPower | I knew there was a reason I liked him. |
| 16:22.16 | blitzrage | ManxPower: you knew that! |
| 16:22.19 | file[laptop] | be afraid! be very very afraid |
| 16:22.31 | MikeJ[Laptop] | of canuks? |
| 16:22.42 | blitzrage | hell yah |
| 16:22.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | does it count if I am 1/2 canuck? |
| 16:22.45 | ManxPower | Canada is what the USA SHOULD be. |
| 16:22.52 | blitzrage | we kicked your ass in 1812, and we'll do it again! |
| 16:22.55 | file[laptop] | awwww how nice |
| 16:22.57 | Luke-Jr | Canada is screwy too |
| 16:23.12 | blitzrage | I don't think anyone is as screwed up as the US though |
| 16:23.19 | Luke-Jr | perhaps not |
| 16:23.19 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I am a border baby |
| 16:23.25 | blitzrage | but I have to admit, they have the propaganda shit DOWN |
| 16:23.26 | Luke-Jr | but they really all need to be destroyed |
| 16:23.42 | MikeJ[Laptop] | blitzrage, that is a little much.. there are some pretty backwards places around |
| 16:23.48 | Luke-Jr | replace em with decent gov'ts and stuff |
| 16:23.48 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: It does take a while to get used to the much lower crime rate, the lack of litigation culture, the lack of a warmongering moron for president, and stuff like that. |
| 16:23.49 | file[laptop] | MikeJ[Laptop]: bordering on the side of insanity I bet too |
| 16:24.00 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hehe |
| 16:24.12 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: you forget the apparently higher sexual perversion |
| 16:24.13 | blitzrage | MikeJ[Laptop]: I suppose... but the US is supposed to be "the great superpower" - I have a bit more expectations |
| 16:24.29 | MikeJ[Laptop] | my mom is a real canuck and my dad was a american who grew up in canada |
| 16:24.31 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: naw, that didn't take me ANY time to get used to. |
| 16:24.56 | MikeJ[Laptop] | tada, stuporpower... |
| 16:25.02 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: and the socialist stuff like medical and transportation |
| 16:25.06 | [Jedi] | Luke-Jr: depending on what you mean by 'perversion', many people would consider it a plus :) |
| 16:25.16 | Luke-Jr | [Jedi]: perversion is perversion |
| 16:25.36 | tzafrir | what is an appropritate channel for general unix/C questions? |
| 16:25.40 | tzafrir | the relevant q: |
| 16:25.40 | [Jedi] | then maybe in english it has a more concrete meaning |
| 16:25.46 | [TK]D-Fender | I still love this T-shirt I saw with a globe-like view of North America and a slogan saying "We're bigger, and we're on top. If this was prison you'd be our bitch." :D |
| 16:25.51 | gordonjcp | [Jedi]: I think Luke-Jr is USian, in which case "perversion" includes ever even mentioning sex |
| 16:25.54 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: *nod* Means people like me, without health insurance, but with a %80 of getting liver cancer in the next 20 years won't die from lack of treatment. |
| 16:25.58 | gordonjcp | or anything related to sex |
| 16:26.03 | [Jedi] | gordonjcp: :)) |
| 16:26.05 | Luke-Jr | gordonjcp: sex is good, perversion is not =p |
| 16:26.15 | [Jedi] | what's perversion then? |
| 16:26.17 | gordonjcp | Luke-Jr: don't knock a thing until you've tried it |
| 16:26.27 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: better to save the $ yourself than socialise medical stuff |
| 16:26.29 | blitzrage | a little perversion can make sex more fun :) |
| 16:26.46 | file[laptop] | you scary scary people |
| 16:26.52 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: surely you know you'll pay for it in taxes? |
| 16:26.54 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: And the fact that "health insurance" doesn't actually cover much. |
| 16:27.02 | tzafrir | mkdir /etc/asterisk/subdir; echo '#include "subdir" >>/etc/asterisk/logger.conf ; asterisk -rx reload |
| 16:27.04 | MikeJ[Laptop] | <*shudder |
| 16:27.04 | MikeJ[Laptop] | * |
| 16:27.11 | tzafrir | That should make asterisk hung |
| 16:27.17 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: When you count all the taxes, the USA has a pretty high tax rate. |
| 16:27.23 | [Jedi] | Luke-Jr: 'socialise' ? you don't think it's fair for any person in your country to have medical services for 99'9999% they need? |
| 16:27.26 | tzafrir | At least in stable |
| 16:27.27 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: I'm not defending the US =p |
| 16:27.47 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: I'm betting on a cure before it's too late. 8-) |
| 16:27.52 | Luke-Jr | [Jedi]: medical services aren't needed, usually |
| 16:28.06 | Luke-Jr | [Jedi]: I haven't seen a doctor or such for years |
| 16:28.07 | tzafrir | Trying to fix this, I noticed fopen has no problem opening a directory |
| 16:28.25 | [Jedi] | Luke-Jr: that's not an answer |
| 16:28.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | all I have to say about canadas medical system is that I am happy my canadian family lives close enough to come get care in the US. |
| 16:28.35 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: Younger people don't need much medical care. |
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| 16:28.52 | blitzrage | wow... look at what I've started |
| 16:28.53 | ManxPower | MikeJ[Laptop]: It is nice to have the option -- if you have the money. |
| 16:28.54 | blitzrage | lol |
| 16:29.07 | file[laptop] | blitzrage: you should keep your mouth shut in the future |
| 16:29.07 | MikeJ[Laptop] | my grandmother was on a 11 month waiting list for surgery that saved her like.. she got in in the US in 3 weeks |
| 16:29.11 | ManxPower | blitzrage: you rabble rouser, you. |
| 16:29.15 | gordonjcp | Luke-Jr: I don't mind paying taxes so we can have socialised healthcare |
| 16:29.17 | Marlow | blitzrage: did you kick rocks down the hill again ? |
| 16:29.24 | Luke-Jr | gordonjcp: some people do |
| 16:29.35 | blitzrage | Marlow: I started a US bashing match :) |
| 16:29.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | not that the US system is good... but there needs to be a middle ground |
| 16:29.38 | ManxPower | MikeJ[Laptop]: How much did it cost her? |
| 16:29.45 | Luke-Jr | gordonjcp: if you want to opt-in, that's health insurance (done right) |
| 16:30.00 | gordonjcp | Luke-Jr: no, I don't want private health insurance |
| 16:30.04 | MikeJ[Laptop] | the ontario health insurance will pay for a lot of things in the US |
| 16:30.20 | ManxPower | MikeJ[Laptop]: Oh! That's nifty. Did it pay for her care? |
| 16:30.32 | Luke-Jr | gordonjcp: so you want to force other people to pay for your medical bills? |
| 16:30.41 | gordonjcp | Luke-Jr: no, I don't have any medical bills |
| 16:30.42 | [Jedi] | Luke-Jr: yes, that's the point |
| 16:30.53 | Luke-Jr | [Jedi]: that's stupid |
| 16:30.55 | gordonjcp | Luke-Jr: but then, my taxes pay for other people's medical bills |
| 16:31.01 | gordonjcp | I presently don't need it |
| 16:31.09 | [Jedi] | Luke-Jr: stupid is thinking on medical services in terms of 'billing' |
| 16:31.16 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: Your taxes ALREADY pay for other people's medical bills. |
| 16:31.19 | Luke-Jr | gordonjcp: That's what a private health insurance would do. |
| 16:31.24 | [Jedi] | Luke-Jr: medical services are a right, and they must be granted. that's the way many countries work. |
| 16:31.41 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: I would be happy with everyone having private medical insurance, if it covered useful stuff. |
| 16:31.47 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: as I said, I'm not defending the US =p |
| 16:32.02 | gordonjcp | Luke-Jr: what I don't want is to be forced to pay for an insurance company's directors to have flash cars and big offices, and then find out that I'm not really covered for much |
| 16:32.06 | unixmonster | omfg are you boiling down all the problems in the US to inadequate health care? |
| 16:32.19 | Luke-Jr | nor existing corrupt health insurance companies |
| 16:32.38 | Luke-Jr | gordonjcp: that's not "done right" then |
| 16:32.44 | ManxPower | My ex-wife still has $30,000 in medical bills, and she had insurance. |
| 16:32.46 | gordonjcp | Luke-Jr: doesn't matter |
| 16:32.59 | gordonjcp | Luke-Jr: private companies are always going to be less cost-effective |
| 16:33.12 | Luke-Jr | gordonjcp: start a company that does it right and it will work best |
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| 16:33.30 | gordonjcp | Luke-Jr: no, socialised healthcare is already in place and works well |
| 16:34.01 | Luke-Jr | gordonjcp: then why do people in such countries do their best to get health care outside of them? |
| 16:34.31 | coppice | as more and more medical procedures are possible, and as more people live longer into their years of high medical demand, l medical systems will fall apart |
| 16:34.33 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: Don't generalize that. Look at Europe. |
| 16:34.46 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: same thing there, too |
| 16:34.53 | gordonjcp | Luke-Jr: most people don't |
| 16:35.07 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: What countries in western europe do not have socialized health care? |
| 16:35.14 | [Jedi] | Luke-Jr: that's plain wrong |
| 16:35.26 | Luke-Jr | besides, if the gov't is paying and not you, there's less incentive for the doctors to do their best |
| 16:35.33 | [Jedi] | Luke-Jr: why? |
| 16:35.36 | Delvar | lol |
| 16:35.43 | Luke-Jr | Because they're getting paid regardless |
| 16:35.46 | ManxPower | The whole "americans buying their prescription drugs from canada" has to indicate something is wrong. |
| 16:35.59 | Delvar | if they do it wrong they get stuck off... big insetive there |
| 16:36.05 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: US system is screwed up, too... |
| 16:36.07 | *** part/#asterisk Marlow (~martin@cerberus.bluetree.ie) |
| 16:36.13 | [Jedi] | Luke-Jr: if they do wrong they get into court |
| 16:36.14 | tclark | http://carcino.gen.nz/images/image.phpi/5de73104/canadatop.jpg&cb=1115204527 |
| 16:36.20 | Luke-Jr | Delvar: less than best != wrong |
| 16:36.22 | coppice | Luke-Jr: the only time doctors have an incentive to do their best is when the government pays. private health care is purely about getting the most cash out of patients |
| 16:37.01 | Delvar | tbh i realy dont care and i have better things to do than corect somone on irc... |
| 16:37.03 | [Jedi] | Luke-Jr: doctors don't have a boss telling them 'hey don't spend too much on that 80yo woman, she's going to die soon anyway' |
| 16:37.07 | ManxPower | coppice: you mean "getting the most cash out of anyone they can make pay", right? |
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| 16:37.23 | coppice | they only start treatment if you can pay |
| 16:37.36 | ManxPower | or your insurance company can pay. |
| 16:37.40 | Luke-Jr | coppice: I know that is not true. |
| 16:37.51 | Luke-Jr | from experience |
| 16:37.53 | coppice | Luke-Jr: then you are an idiot |
| 16:37.58 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: I know for a fact that is true in some cases (my ex-wife for example) |
| 16:38.11 | blitzrage | I finally heard a good argument the other day regarding private health care - since Canada already has a pretty decent public health care system (which I believe is the hardest part) you keep private health care in Canada as well (people already are - and are going to continue getting it, whether its in Canada or not). You then control the private side, taxing it or whatever the case may be, and using that money to su |
| 16:38.22 | [Jedi] | Luke-Jr: then they're for-profit enterprises which happily start treatments on people who can't pay? |
| 16:38.28 | Luke-Jr | anyway, for the nth time, I'm not defending US-style |
| 16:38.28 | gordonjcp | must be like living in some third-world nightmare |
| 16:39.18 | [Jedi] | gordonjcp: I think the same |
| 16:40.13 | Luke-Jr | you're going to pay for it eventually, either way |
| 16:40.53 | ManxPower | Zeeek: How is health care in France? |
| 16:40.53 | drumkilla | so how about that app_dial ?! |
| 16:40.56 | heath__ | maybe if the cost of entry for insurance companies wasn't so high (due to too much regulation) maybe a person could get decent insurance |
| 16:41.27 | Zeeek | ManxPower I find it excellent, and I have extensively and personally experienced both US and French systems |
| 16:41.36 | Pete_Largo | or, maybe if the insurance companies weren't so greedy.... |
| 16:41.50 | heath__ | they couldn't be so greedy if they had to be more competitive |
| 16:41.55 | ManxPower | heath__: maybe. Maybe if the number of uninsured people was much lower, hospitals, etc would not have to charge twice as much to everyone that can pay because the health care provider would not have to write off so many bad bills. |
| 16:41.56 | coppice | the french system is considered one of the world's most cost effective |
| 16:42.02 | Zeeek | drumkilla, can you please add "Asterisk Paris lunch with Mark Spencer, Fri July 8" |
| 16:42.11 | Zeeek | tot he title? |
| 16:42.37 | Zeeek | coppice, honestly they have many problems (like denial from the citizens who don't see it'll be out of money sdoon) |
| 16:42.46 | Zeeek | but it's a very human friendly system |
| 16:43.04 | ManxPower | and maybe if the uninsured got timly health care, the total cost of the care would be much lower since they don't wait so long for treatment. |
| 16:43.08 | Zeeek | many systems (like the VA in the US,) do not let you chose a doctor |
| 16:43.25 | coppice | Why? He's not likely to add "LangKawi beach front lunch with Steve Underwood on Fri Jul 8th". :-) |
| 16:43.29 | Zeeek | ManxPower interesting point |
| 16:43.32 | drumkilla | Zeeek, who should people contact about it? |
| 16:43.39 | heath__ | if we could ease up on the regs for doctors as well, we could probably see more division of labor between professionals |
| 16:43.48 | Zeeek | coppice - why not? If Mark is there? |
| 16:44.00 | ManxPower | Seeing a doctor always costs me at least US$300 each time. |
| 16:44.13 | Zeeek | drumkilla : paris-zeeek@sneakemail.com |
| 16:44.14 | ManxPower | Granted, if I paid for health insurance it would be US$300/MONTH. |
| 16:44.49 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: The US system is screwed up in similar-but-different ways. |
| 16:45.03 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: some of which you pointed out |
| 16:45.14 | ManxPower | And since all the insurance companys have a "pre-existing condition" clause, if I got health insurance I could not use it for much for a year. |
| 16:45.18 | Zeeek | be constructive, take the best of each system and combine them |
| 16:45.30 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: that's crazy |
| 16:45.44 | Pete_Largo | it's also true |
| 16:45.56 | ManxPower | gordonjcp: I could use it for anything NEW, but not anything that existed before the start date of the insurance. |
| 16:45.57 | *** topic/#asterisk by drumkilla -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX || 1.0.9 || Asterisk meeting with kram, July 8th in Paris - RSVP to Zeeek || Cluecon -- PBX Developers Conference in Chicago Aug 3-5 http://www.cluecon.com || Disco rave lights on! |
| 16:46.11 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: <shakes head> crazy |
| 16:46.18 | ManxPower | gordonjcp: Yup. It is. |
| 16:46.20 | Zeeek | thanks drumkilla |
| 16:46.25 | drumkilla | you're welcome :) |
| 16:46.43 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: if I want to see the doctor, I lift the phone, make an appointment, and then step across the car park |
| 16:46.43 | Zeeek | I'll take some photos, they're always funny after too much wine |
| 16:46.54 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: my doctor's surgery is literally right outside my flat |
| 16:46.56 | JunK-Y | off topic question: whatcha think about http://ca.lge.com/en/down/product/040102/L1710B/L1710B_BK.pdf ? |
| 16:47.02 | ManxPower | gordonjcp: oh, if I pay out of pocket, it's that easy for me too. |
| 16:47.05 | drumkilla | Zeeek, yeah, get him drunk! |
| 16:47.10 | Zeeek | Nothing is OT here :) |
| 16:47.16 | ManxPower | ok, maybe not QUITE that easy. |
| 16:47.28 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: just as a matter of interest, roughly how much income tax do you pay (percentage)? |
| 16:47.37 | Zeeek | Famous quote from last year: "The bugtracker in never on vacation!" |
| 16:47.46 | gordonjcp | JunK-Y: LG is pretty good |
| 16:48.12 | coppice | 15% tax, and good government provided health care |
| 16:48.18 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: trying to get some idea of how much more we pay for socialised health care, etc |
| 16:48.40 | ManxPower | gordonjcp: I would have to calculate it. There's federal income tax, state income tax, city income tax, social security tax, state sales tax, local sales tax, cig/alcohol tax, luxuty tax, estate tax, capital gains tax. |
| 16:48.46 | gordonjcp | fucking hell |
| 16:49.12 | Pete_Largo | don't forget medicare tax |
| 16:49.20 | Zeeek | and thumb tax |
| 16:49.21 | Pete_Largo | fuel tax |
| 16:49.23 | ManxPower | gordonjcp: that's much lower than most people in the USA. |
| 16:49.26 | coppice | I love US hotel bills. they are about 1 page per night after all the separate taxes they add |
| 16:49.27 | Zeeek | zan-tax |
| 16:49.34 | [Jedi] | gordonjcp: where are you form? |
| 16:49.41 | [Jedi] | fRom |
| 16:49.43 | [Jedi] | ? |
| 16:49.43 | ManxPower | When I had a real job, I paid about %33 of my income in taxes. |
| 16:50.22 | Zeeek | ManxPower, you must have benheavily taxed on your fees from Madrid :) |
| 16:50.29 | Pete_Largo | property taxes if you own a home... city, county, school district, special assesments for roads and libraries and stuff. |
| 16:50.44 | Zeeek | does spandsp lib have a tax? |
| 16:50.48 | Zeeek | shit, I never paid |
| 16:51.05 | gordonjcp | JunK-Y: UK |
| 16:51.16 | coppice | I pay 15% tax. you can pay that for me if you like |
| 16:51.26 | gordonjcp | [Jedi]: UK |
| 16:51.35 | ManxPower | gordonjcp: There are a lot of tax credits in the USA too, but if you don't have children, are not married, and don't own property, you don't get those discounts |
| 16:51.47 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: same here |
| 16:51.53 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: ooh how do you get them? =p |
| 16:52.01 | gordonjcp | I pay quite a lot of tax because I'm not married and have no children |
| 16:52.06 | ManxPower | People say other countries have high taxes, but when you add them all up, they are not THAT different from the USA tax system. |
| 16:52.19 | [Jedi] | gordonjcp: I have met some people from the UK who complaint heavily on your healthcare system |
| 16:52.37 | ManxPower | gordonjcp: the %33 number I quoted was for unmarried, no children, no property |
| 16:52.42 | gordonjcp | hm |
| 16:52.43 | coppice | when you have hit a *really* big medical bill, you will be extremely glad that the government paid |
| 16:52.59 | ManxPower | but that was ONLY federal income tax, not any of the other taxes. |
| 16:53.05 | coppice | The UK system used to be pretty good, but it has fallen apart in corruption |
| 16:53.07 | ManxPower | Hell, in New Orleans, you pay %9 sales tax. |
| 16:53.19 | Luke-Jr | coppice: sounds like US health insurance |
| 16:53.25 | ManxPower | %4 state sales tax, %5 city sales tax. |
| 16:53.26 | Zeeek | In 2030 it is believed that 1.4 Billion people will still have no access to electricity |
| 16:53.47 | ManxPower | Oh! I forgot about the utility taxes on phone service, electricity, cable TV, etc. |
| 16:54.00 | coppice | Zeek: if the oil runs out it could be 500M - the only 500M left alive |
| 16:54.30 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: so don't use phones/TV =p |
| 16:54.38 | ManxPower | gordonjcp: Any idea what the highest tax rate is in canada? |
| 16:54.42 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: this is #asterisk after all... =p |
| 16:54.43 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: I don't have cable TV anymore. |
| 16:54.44 | gordonjcp | ManxPower: no idea |
| 16:54.50 | blitzrage | probably Ontario - 15% |
| 16:54.50 | gordonjcp | I don't live in Canada |
| 16:55.00 | ManxPower | gordonjcp: I thought they lowered it in the USA for only %45. |
| 16:55.06 | ManxPower | for == to. |
| 16:55.31 | blitzrage | oh... income tax - no idea. I usually get money back from the gov't :) |
| 16:55.55 | Pete_Largo | doesn't that generally mean you've paid too much over the year? |
| 16:55.58 | blitzrage | either way I didn't read the scroll back and am probably not talking right - so I'm going to get breakfast (at 1pm) |
| 16:56.05 | blitzrage | Pete_Largo: yep, it does |
| 16:56.10 | Zeeek | hippie! |
| 16:56.20 | blitzrage | Zeeek: I try |
| 16:56.27 | Luke-Jr | Pete_Largo: who *doesn't* pay too much over the year? |
| 16:56.53 | blitzrage | now that I'm out of school though, I'll probably pay like $2G's in taxes this year |
| 16:57.01 | blitzrage | or more... who knows |
| 16:57.51 | heath__ | in the US a refund doesn't necessarily mean you overpaid... in fact in the USA the refund is usually some kind of sadistic thank-you from the government for having kids you can't afford |
| 16:58.40 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower : Quebec is 15.025 so far, so I think that tops the list |
| 16:59.00 | Luke-Jr | heath__: there is no such thing as "kids you can't afford" =p |
| 16:59.12 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: SALES (aka VAT and Prov sales tax), not income tax, right? |
| 16:59.13 | Luke-Jr | heath__: unless you want to spoil them or something |
| 16:59.25 | ManxPower | I thought there was no such thing as "kids you CAN afford" |
| 16:59.41 | ManxPower | the little disease ridden monsters. |
| 16:59.44 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower : Sales (provincial & federal combined) |
| 17:00.00 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower : So that'd be QST (PST) + GST |
| 17:00.09 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: *nod* |
| 17:00.20 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: kids are a good thing. Even from a totally utilitarian POV, they're an investmetn |
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| 17:00.58 | *** join/#asterisk PaddyLar (~Phaig@ip24-252-73-43.no.no.cox.net) |
| 17:01.09 | PaddyLar | Anyone know how to turn off 'init keys" ? |
| 17:01.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Luke-Jr : I think your economic concepts are a little skewed... since when are kids an "investment"? An investment makes you money. When they make money its THEIRS |
| 17:01.27 | heath__ | Luke-Jr: I actually agree, I was just being dumb, I also get irked by all that over-population crap. |
| 17:01.31 | mountie | blitzrage: Oh, to go back to only paying $2G of taxes... |
| 17:01.31 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr: You are crazy. |
| 17:02.00 | ManxPower | An investment inplies some kind of payback. |
| 17:02.01 | Luke-Jr | [TK]D-Fender: You put 18 years into raising them. When you're older, they support and take care of you |
| 17:02.05 | PaddyLar | Anyone know how to turn off 'init keys" ? |
| 17:02.09 | Luke-Jr | heath__: what over-population? |
| 17:02.32 | ManxPower | PaddyLar: we don't even know what init keys are. |
| 17:02.47 | [TK]D-Fender | Luke-Jr : I doubt they're taking care of you for as long you were them.... and even then, does that even "break-even"? |
| 17:02.57 | tzafrir | I've just patched slightly the config reading part of config.c and want to test this. Is it enough to copy the asterisk binary, or is the code replicated in some .so modules as well? |
| 17:03.00 | Luke-Jr | [TK]D-Fender: sure, why not? |
| 17:03.12 | heath__ | Luke-Jr: you tell me.. i was saying that over-population is a joke. |
| 17:03.21 | Luke-Jr | heath__: I was agreeing :) |
| 17:03.23 | PaddyLar | init keys are IAX encryption key's |
| 17:03.33 | *** join/#asterisk shido6 (~greg@d57-87-253.home.cgocable.net) |
| 17:03.43 | PaddyLar | To be more exact: init keys Initialize RSA key passcodes |
| 17:03.55 | ManxPower | PaddyLar: Why do you need to disable them? |
| 17:04.11 | blitzrage | PaddyLar: you have to create the keys without the requiring a password to initialize them |
| 17:04.35 | PaddyLar | I seem to have a problem setting up an IAX server and host and I feel the key thing might be getting in the way. |
| 17:04.37 | blitzrage | PaddyLar: its the -n flag with astgenkey app I believe |
| 17:04.54 | blitzrage | PaddyLar: yes, without the -n you have to intialize the keys at first startup |
| 17:04.56 | *** join/#asterisk heison (~heison@dns.somanetworks.com) |
| 17:05.06 | PaddyLar | The -n flag generates key's without passwords. |
| 17:05.13 | blitzrage | PaddyLar: yes |
| 17:05.16 | ManxPower | Ah. I never use RSA w/IAX2 |
| 17:05.24 | blitzrage | ManxPower: blasphemy |
| 17:05.59 | PaddyLar | I installed the init key thing the other day, and seem to of had problems ever since. |
| 17:06.32 | PaddyLar | I would just like to stop * from using the key's untill I nail down the problem. |
| 17:06.35 | blitzrage | PaddyLar: keys have to be initialized on both ends at Asterisk startup time |
| 17:06.46 | *** join/#asterisk jansaell (~jan@h219n1c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 17:06.50 | blitzrage | PaddyLar: like I said - you have to generate them without a password |
| 17:06.54 | jansaell | hial |
| 17:06.57 | blitzrage | jansaell: afternoon! |
| 17:07.14 | PaddyLar | I generated them without a password |
| 17:07.36 | jansaell | dam x-chat, cant get it jo join "asterisk automatically |
| 17:07.56 | jansaell | blitzrage: hi there |
| 17:08.30 | blitzrage | jansaell: yah - you need a delay in there somehow so that nickserv can verify you. Thats why I use irssi ....and because its the best :) |
| 17:08.41 | blitzrage | PaddyLar: then there is no need to init keys |
| 17:08.56 | ManxPower | PaddyLar: can't you just delete the keys. |
| 17:09.00 | jansaell | irssi? |
| 17:09.07 | PaddyLar | Has anyone got any experiance in setting up asterisk as a host to other asterisk servers using IAX. |
| 17:09.09 | blitzrage | jansaell: www.irssi.org I believe |
| 17:09.27 | PaddyLar | blitsrage, I have done that, is that enough? |
| 17:09.34 | ManxPower | PaddyLar: blitzrage has my example iax.conf files. 8-) |
| 17:10.17 | PaddyLar | ManxPower, are you from the Isle of Man? |
| 17:11.04 | shido6 | PaddyLar, you're building a true "switch" |
| 17:11.15 | ManxPower | PaddyLar: no |
| 17:11.52 | PaddyLar | Oh, just the Manx thing made me wonder. People from the Isle of Man are reffered to as Manx |
| 17:13.14 | PaddyLar | Anyway, I am trying to setup a remote PSTN host gateway that I can connnect to from my home * box using IAX. Has anyone got any experiance in this area. |
| 17:14.23 | tzafrir | Speaking of RSA: any RSA keys worth adding into my distro besides the two that come by default with asterisk? |
| 17:14.36 | PaddyLar | I have the boxes setup, but seem to have a problem connecting them via IAX. |
| 17:15.20 | PaddyLar | I need to create a client host relationship, not a peer connect. |
| 17:15.29 | ManxPower | PaddyLar: Huh? |
| 17:15.51 | blitzrage | tzafrir: not really unless you are connecting via DUNDi |
| 17:17.27 | *** join/#asterisk Exstatica (Exstatica@jumping.on.the.bed.are.umpteenmonkeys.com) |
| 17:17.42 | *** join/#asterisk jansaell (~jan@h219n1c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 17:18.14 | tzafrir | blitzrage, well, some of the boxes will stay installed for more than a few monthes and may actually get to use DUNDi |
| 17:18.31 | tzafrir | But I do currently use the FWD key |
| 17:18.33 | file | blitzrage: you should come to Cluecon |
| 17:19.02 | ManxPower | "Quebec celebrates Canada Day by mass movements of people changing residences. This is known as Moving Day." |
| 17:19.03 | PaddyLar | Just to elaborate, I need to setup my home * box with an IAX trunk, and my office host with an IAX extension. |
| 17:19.13 | blitzrage | tzafrir: cool. You'll just need to install the keys in the /var/lib/asterisk/keys directory, then do a reload res_crypto.so, then reload pbx_dundi.so and you'll be good to go on those boxes. |
| 17:19.24 | tzafrir | PaddyLar, and the problem being? |
| 17:19.30 | blitzrage | file: probably not going |
| 17:19.34 | ManxPower | blitzrage: you going to be at Astricon/Anaheim? |
| 17:19.50 | blitzrage | ManxPower: oh yah, I'll be helping run it again :) |
| 17:19.58 | PaddyLar | The problem seem's to be that it's not connecting. |
| 17:20.06 | ManxPower | blitzrage: Nifty. They want me to talk there. |
| 17:20.14 | blitzrage | ManxPower: !cool! you should then |
| 17:20.18 | tzafrir | blitzrage, I know how to do that. The idea is to provide a number of extra keys with the "base package" so the user can trust them (of the user trusts the original package) |
| 17:20.24 | file | blitzrage: you MUST go |
| 17:20.25 | PaddyLar | That's why I thought that the might be an issue with the key's. |
| 17:20.35 | shido6 | Im supposed to speak at cluecon about Fraud |
| 17:20.39 | ManxPower | Maybe I'll be more prepared next time and less exchausted. |
| 17:20.47 | tzafrir | We can also easily provide extra asterisk-keys-foo packages, naturally |
| 17:20.54 | shido6 | do they still have me down for that, file? |
| 17:21.46 | file | shido6: possibly, talk to bkw if you still wanna do it |
| 17:21.55 | eKo1 | e1s are usually served using a pair of bnc terminated coaxial cables right? but the te405p has rj48 ports. that means i need a 2-bnc to rj45 balun right? |
| 17:22.02 | tzafrir | PaddyLar, would you mind giving us some actual data to help you? |
| 17:22.23 | ManxPower | eKo1: You can usually specifiy to the carrier what type of plug you want. |
| 17:22.25 | PaddyLar | K. |
| 17:22.59 | PaddyLar | WHat do you need exactly, I would hate to dumt the contents of my CLI in here. |
| 17:23.14 | eKo1 | ManxPower: well, I have but they only serve E1s using pair of coaxial, BNC terminated. |
| 17:23.35 | file | shido6: if you can give me some contact info I'll put a postit note on my monitor to talk to him aboot it |
| 17:23.40 | file | when I find a pen. |
| 17:23.45 | tzafrir | PaddyLar, here's a useful method: try to convince us that your settings should work |
| 17:24.06 | PaddyLar | Hmmmm |
| 17:24.14 | WilliamK | good afternoon everyone |
| 17:24.43 | PaddyLar | Here's my home trunk connection: |
| 17:24.43 | PaddyLar | [ascom] |
| 17:24.43 | PaddyLar | username=acom |
| 17:24.43 | PaddyLar | type=peer |
| 17:24.43 | PaddyLar | secret=123123 |
| 17:24.44 | PaddyLar | host=voip.ascom.net |
| 17:24.46 | PaddyLar | [acom] |
| 17:24.48 | PaddyLar | type=user |
| 17:24.50 | PaddyLar | secret=123123 |
| 17:24.52 | PaddyLar | context=from-pstn |
| 17:24.53 | tzafrir | ~pastebin |
| 17:24.53 | jbot | i guess pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 17:24.53 | eKo1 | I'm guessing i need something like this: http://www.communik.de/netzwerk/artikel/52753.1.htm |
| 17:25.06 | shido6 | errrr |
| 17:25.35 | PaddyLar | And here's my host Extension: [acom] |
| 17:25.35 | PaddyLar | username=acom |
| 17:25.35 | PaddyLar | type=friend |
| 17:25.35 | PaddyLar | secret=1234 |
| 17:25.35 | PaddyLar | qualify=no |
| 17:25.36 | PaddyLar | notransfer=yes |
| 17:25.38 | PaddyLar | mailbox=600@default |
| 17:25.40 | PaddyLar | host=dynamic |
| 17:25.42 | PaddyLar | context=inbound |
| 17:25.44 | PaddyLar | callerid="Paddy" <600> |
| 17:25.55 | eKo1 | PaddyLar: use pastebin |
| 17:25.56 | tzafrir | ~pastebin |
| 17:25.56 | jbot | somebody said pastebin was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 17:26.25 | shido6 | eKo1, whats up? |
| 17:26.30 | PaddyLar | Sorry, Ok! |
| 17:26.48 | file | shido6: actually I have your info right here - I'll talk to him about it |
| 17:26.54 | nowork | to make a calling card appliation, besides prepaid.conf do i need to use callingcard.conf? something wrong on the link for callingcard.conf at voip-info; |
| 17:26.59 | eKo1 | shido6: i'm trying to figure out what baluns i need. |
| 17:27.10 | shido6 | careful |
| 17:27.29 | Assid | has anyone managed to get a cisco ip phone working? |
| 17:27.35 | tzafrir | PaddyLar, but why did you believe that your settings actually work? |
| 17:27.36 | Assid | i cant manage to edit the network configuration |
| 17:27.53 | *** join/#asterisk tagore (~ircap8b@r200-125-26-130-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 17:29.31 | *** join/#asterisk gatty (~agatward@beauchief.plus.com) |
| 17:29.41 | tzafrir | What indications do you have that the "client" asterisk has connected to the server? Has the cliet managed to register? |
| 17:30.14 | PaddyLar | Itzafrir, I have just posted my config's to http://pastebin.ca/16859 |
| 17:30.44 | PaddyLar | tzafrir, I coppied them from a book. |
| 17:31.41 | tzafrir | Do you see the connection on the client's 'iax2 show registry' and on the server's 'iax2 show users' ? |
| 17:31.48 | tzafrir | (users? peers?) |
| 17:32.09 | *** join/#asterisk [cc]smart (~smart@gw.ptr-62-65-149-158.customer.ch.netstream.com) |
| 17:32.50 | Assid | tzafrir: ever workewd with a cisco phone? |
| 17:32.59 | nowork | anyone try AreskiCC software with Mysql instead of postgresql? or can i install postgresql and mysql both on my redhat box?thanks |
| 17:33.00 | *** part/#asterisk Zeeek (~Zeeek@Zeeek.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) |
| 17:33.08 | Assid | i cant seem to edit the network configuration to set the CM |
| 17:33.28 | PaddyLar | tzafrir, No it has not registered. |
| 17:33.29 | gatty | assid: I assume you've unlocked the config before trying to change it? |
| 17:35.49 | Assid | nope |
| 17:36.06 | Assid | thats the thing.. i dont know how to unlock |
| 17:36.22 | *** part/#asterisk tagore (~ircap8b@r200-125-26-130-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 17:37.20 | Assid | i enabled dhcp on my router and everytihg |
| 17:37.34 | tzafrir | nowork, redhat includes postgresql, doesn't it? |
| 17:37.50 | gatty | Assid: can either do it with a menu option (normally the last one on the config menu) or just create appropriately named config files on your TFTP server and let it pick them up. |
| 17:38.36 | Assid | hrmm.. i cant afford messing with this.. thats the thing.. it aint my phone |
| 17:38.39 | Assid | just borrowing it |
| 17:38.42 | tzafrir | Assid, I probably can't help you, but if you mention the model name you have a higher chance of getting help |
| 17:38.53 | Assid | 7912 series |
| 17:38.57 | Assid | cisco ip phone |
| 17:39.17 | Assid | keeps wanting to connect to 10.1.200.250 |
| 17:41.27 | Assid | i tried to telnet to the phone.. doesnt work |
| 17:42.19 | gatty | telnet's not enabled by default |
| 17:42.46 | Assid | whats +J btw? |
| 17:42.48 | Assid | hrmm |
| 17:42.59 | Assid | gatty: okay.. how do you suggest i do this |
| 17:43.03 | Moc | need to be registred |
| 17:43.17 | Assid | as i said.. it aint mine.. friends just lent it to me for 15 hr |
| 17:43.26 | Assid | ive already used around 5 hours |
| 17:43.36 | tzafrir | say, if asterisk is running with real-time priorities (-P?) and asterisk is in a 100% CPU, does it mean I can't even send a "reboot" signal to the init process using ctrl-alt-del? |
| 17:43.47 | gatty | Assid: well you're not going to be able to do much without trashing your friend's config to be honest |
| 17:44.40 | infinity1 | i'm getting this error. when i run ztcfg: ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 1: No such device or address (6) |
| 17:45.03 | infinity1 | can someone assist? |
| 17:45.12 | gatty | infinity1: have you loaded the zaptel module? |
| 17:45.38 | Assid | the thing is.. im kinda scared of things getting screwed if something does get screwed |
| 17:45.39 | infinity1 | zaptel 227780 3 wcfxo,wcfxs,wct4xxp |
| 17:45.40 | infinity1 | crc_ccitt 1984 3 zaptel,ppp_async,hisax |
| 17:46.03 | NewSole | ok is this a know bug with zaptel.... on internal asterisk the caller ID works fine but when going out though zap it add 1 the the name turning "Newsole <6135551212>" to "1Newsole <6135551212>" |
| 17:46.05 | tzafrir | alt-sysrq-e did the trick |
| 17:46.10 | *** join/#asterisk WilliamK (~wkeller@c-24-0-130-177.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 17:46.17 | infinity1 | i've got a few extras :)... i've trying to figure out what the heck is wrong. |
| 17:46.30 | gatty | infinity1: does /dev/zap/ctl exist? |
| 17:47.04 | infinity1 | yea |
| 17:47.05 | infinity1 | crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 196, 0 Jul 3 20:47 /dev/zap/ctl |
| 17:47.32 | *** join/#asterisk jief- (~jief@modemcable196.182-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 17:48.03 | gatty | infinity1: hmm... interesting :) do you get anything more than that error if you run ztcfg -vv ? |
| 17:48.40 | infinity1 | gatty: no. i just get 1 channel configured. then the error. |
| 17:48.59 | jief- | hello, i was running the 1.0.7-HEAD version which had a regular voicemail message, as opposed to stable which seem to only have unavailable/busy voicemail messages that we can record. is this normal to not have this regular voicemail message with stable 1.0.7? |
| 17:49.15 | gatty | infinity1: ok - how many channels do you have defined in /etc/zaptel.conf? |
| 17:49.32 | gatty | brb - there's a sandwich with my name on calling me ;) |
| 17:49.35 | infinity1 | gatty: 1. its a two channel card though. i figure simply things. |
| 17:49.43 | infinity1 | er simplify |
| 17:50.19 | Derkommissar | is there any good IAX client for linux? besides IAXcomm and kiax ? |
| 17:50.36 | Assid | gatty: can you help me set the config of this |
| 17:50.42 | Assid | i havent used a tftp server |
| 17:51.44 | Nivex | Derkommissar: I think those are about it. I just learned of kiax last night |
| 17:52.05 | infinity1 | gatty: which color modules are what? i have one fxo and one fxs. i tried switching the config around, no luck. |
| 17:52.28 | tzafrir | I like iaxcomm. There's iaxphone :-; |
| 17:52.28 | infinity1 | gatty: the modules on the card aren't labeled. i tried it both ways in the config though. |
| 17:52.37 | *** join/#asterisk PaddyLar (~Phaig@ip24-252-73-43.no.no.cox.net) |
| 17:53.31 | tzafrir | infinity1, the group dialout. you use debian, right |
| 17:53.33 | tzafrir | ? |
| 17:54.09 | tzafrir | However the user there is root, which probably mean syou once ran asterisk manually without '-U asterisk' |
| 17:54.46 | tzafrir | sorry, ignore me |
| 17:54.50 | infinity1 | tzafrir: yea. debian. |
| 17:54.53 | tzafrir | the group dialout should be enough |
| 17:55.03 | PaddyLar | Hi asters, I am trying to setup an IAX client/Host config on two * boxes. One used as PSTN gateway. Cannot seem to get Host to accept regiter |
| 17:55.11 | Assid | tzafrir: how do i even set this tftp location on the phone? |
| 17:55.15 | tzafrir | try running 'groups asterisk' just in case, though |
| 17:55.33 | infinity1 | tzafrir: so add asterisk to the dialout group? |
| 17:55.36 | file | if I had just one last wish, I would like a tasty fish! |
| 17:56.07 | PaddyLar | file, I just got a great tuna steak recipe |
| 17:56.18 | tzafrir | infinity1, I believe that the asterisk packages should have added asterisk to dialout already |
| 17:56.36 | PaddyLar | file, http://www.foodadventures.org/recipes/fish/grilled_tuna.html |
| 17:56.37 | file | I don't like seafood :P |
| 17:56.42 | infinity1 | tzafrir: i checked, the user asterisk is only in the audio group |
| 17:56.56 | tzafrir | useradd asterisk dialout |
| 17:57.04 | infinity1 | tzafrir: does asterisk have to be running when i run tzcfg? |
| 17:57.10 | PaddyLar | Oooops' neigher did I untill I tried blackened grouper. |
| 17:57.20 | tzafrir | infinity1, hmmm... no |
| 17:57.51 | tzafrir | ztcfg is normally run by root (though basically no reason why it shouldn't be run by the asterisk user, right?) |
| 17:58.27 | infinity1 | tzafrir: duno. i'm not really sure what ztcfg does |
| 17:58.29 | PaddyLar | I am trying to setup an IAX client/Host config on two * boxes. One used as PSTN gateway. The seem's to be a problem with the registration on the Host side. |
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| 17:58.54 | tzafrir | infinity1, sends a bunch of ioctls to the zap device files to fine-tune them |
| 17:59.21 | infinity1 | tzafrir: gotcha. strange it isn't working for me. |
| 17:59.22 | infinity1 | hm |
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| 18:01.02 | tzafrir | infinity1, but was there actually any card discovered? take a look at /proc/zaptel/* |
| 18:01.16 | tzafrir | infinity1, also: is there /dev/zap/1 ? |
| 18:01.27 | infinity1 | /proc/zaptel exists, but its empty |
| 18:01.36 | tzafrir | so no card was identified |
| 18:01.40 | infinity1 | there is a /dev/zap/1 |
| 18:01.47 | tzafrir | next: do you see the card in lspci? |
| 18:01.50 | infinity1 | lspci has a card listed |
| 18:01.54 | tzafrir | What card is it? |
| 18:02.05 | infinity1 | Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN interface |
| 18:02.22 | tzafrir | This should be it. lsmod |grep zaptel |
| 18:02.36 | infinity1 | zaptel 227780 3 wcfxo,wcfxs,wct4xxp |
| 18:02.36 | infinity1 | crc_ccitt 1984 3 zaptel,ppp_async,hisax |
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| 18:03.00 | tzafrir | infinity1, what card is it exactly? |
| 18:03.17 | infinity1 | TDM400P |
| 18:03.22 | infinity1 | 1 fxo, 1 fxs |
| 18:03.59 | tzafrir | infinity1, if this is a very new card, you may need the latest zaptel, e.g: 1.0.9. Or at least the up-to-date list of PCI IDs from there |
| 18:04.08 | tzafrir | http://tzafrir.org.il/rapid108 |
| 18:04.21 | infinity1 | i just bought it. |
| 18:04.27 | tzafrir | (This is for Sarge) |
| 18:04.53 | infinity1 | that url isnt coming up |
| 18:05.01 | tzafrir | BTW: please file a bug report about it on the package zaptel |
| 18:05.13 | tzafrir | http://tzafrir.org.il/rapid108/ |
| 18:05.30 | tzafrir | deb http://tzafrir.org.il/rapid108 unstable/ |
| 18:05.36 | gatty | I had to use the latest CVS to get my TDM400P working |
| 18:05.43 | tzafrir | (but that source is only temporary) |
| 18:05.49 | infinity1 | tzafrir: are you the maintainer for the debian packages? |
| 18:05.56 | gatty | if there any output in dmesg from the kernel modules loading? |
| 18:05.59 | tzafrir | gatty, the latest CVS or zaptel 1.0.9 |
| 18:06.00 | gatty | s/if/is |
| 18:06.01 | drumkilla | gatty, that's odd - the drivers should be the same |
| 18:06.14 | tzafrir | Look at the changelog for zaptel 1.0.9 |
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| 18:06.35 | gatty | drumkilla: the non-cvs ones didn't have the PCI ID in for my card |
| 18:06.38 | SpaceBass | howdy |
| 18:06.56 | tzafrir | gatty, when was that? |
| 18:07.03 | gatty | sorry for the typing - am eating sausage sandwich at same time |
| 18:07.05 | gatty | bout 2 weeks ago |
| 18:07.24 | tzafrir | Hi SpaceBass |
| 18:07.37 | SpaceBass | hey tzafrir |
| 18:08.24 | gatty | mine shows up as 0000:01:05.0 Communication controller: Unknown device e159:0001 |
| 18:08.24 | gatty | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.33 | NewSole | gatty how many zap devices u have in system |
| 18:09.38 | Assid | gatty: can u gelp me set this thing up? |
| 18:09.44 | Assid | i mean. i really dont wanna blow this up |
| 18:09.49 | gatty | newsole: just the 1 |
| 18:10.08 | NewSole | what pci slot u have it in |
| 18:11.00 | gatty | NewSole: 32-bit universal slot on a shuttle "enterprise" box (the 2 x PCI slots one). |
| 18:11.13 | gatty | NewSole: it works fine with the CVS drivers so I'm leaving it alone |
| 18:11.29 | gatty | NewSole: will hopefully be changing for TE110P card in a week or two anyway |
| 18:11.34 | NewSole | k cause I had same problem |
| 18:12.17 | gatty | NewSole: this is a UK card purchased via TelAppliant - dunno if the UK cards are different cos of some dodgy Europe / UK approval stuff? |
| 18:12.35 | NewSole | ahh |
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| 18:13.47 | gatty | NewSole: works nicely... just a shame the analog ports on the PBX we have are a pile of crap |
| 18:17.18 | infinity1 | i downloaded the zaptel packages from unstable. 1.0.9 |
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| 18:18.38 | gatty | infinity1: you should expect this kind of output in dmesg if all's working ok: http://pastebin.ca/16863 |
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| 18:20.56 | infinity1 | Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major 196 |
| 18:21.00 | infinity1 | when i ran modprobe zaptel |
| 18:21.56 | gatty | yep... what about when you do modprob wctdm? |
| 18:22.03 | infinity1 | modprobe wcfxs: |
| 18:22.04 | gatty | s/modprob/modprobe |
| 18:22.05 | Assid | gatty: u free ? |
| 18:22.25 | infinity1 | er. i got a lot of good output when i ran modprobe wcfsx |
| 18:22.30 | infinity1 | er wcfxs. |
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| 18:22.42 | infinity1 | like 8 lines. looks good now. |
| 18:22.48 | gatty | Assid: what firmware is the phone running? MGCP, H323 or SIP? |
| 18:22.55 | gatty | infinity1: ok |
| 18:23.00 | infinity1 | and files exist in /proc/zaptel. sweet. |
| 18:23.52 | infinity1 | i have the same revision card as you |
| 18:23.53 | infinity1 | Found a Wildcard TDM: Wildcard TDM400P REV I |
| 18:24.23 | gatty | you probably have more modules on it than I do ;) |
| 18:24.41 | gatty | mine was just to replace an X101P that stopped talking PCI |
| 18:25.23 | infinity1 | ztcfg was a success |
| 18:26.02 | infinity1 | should i be able to hear dialtone? |
| 18:26.24 | gatty | don't think so if you don't have the stuff configured in asterisk |
| 18:26.33 | infinity1 | now to find the documentation and pick up where i got stuck. thanks. |
| 18:27.03 | Assid | i want to use SIP |
| 18:27.47 | Assid | firmware info: |
| 18:27.48 | Assid | App Load ID CP7912010300SCCP040312B |
| 18:27.48 | Assid | Boot Load ID LD0100BOOT021112A |
| 18:27.57 | SpaceBass | what phone? a 7912? |
| 18:28.04 | Assid | yes |
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| 18:28.21 | gatty | Assid: what firmware does the phone have on it though? From what you were saying earlier about having a CM configured its not in SIP mode. (someone correct me if I'm wrong) |
| 18:28.47 | SpaceBass | gatty: your right, the two cannot coexist |
| 18:28.50 | Assid | firmware: Software Version 1.03.00(040312B) |
| 18:28.53 | SpaceBass | Assid: are you trying to upgrade it? |
| 18:28.57 | SpaceBass | to sip? |
| 18:29.02 | Assid | i just want to get the configurations on it |
| 18:29.05 | Assid | and use sip |
| 18:29.19 | Assid | can asterisk use whatever else this phone currently has? |
| 18:29.23 | SpaceBass | Assid: do you have the sip firmware? |
| 18:29.28 | Assid | nope |
| 18:29.33 | gatty | so you have to upgrade to SIP firmware then configure it... your friend would then have to flash the firmware back before he can use it again. |
| 18:29.37 | Assid | i have this site tho: http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/Cisco/79xx/current/ |
| 18:29.40 | SpaceBass | Assid: it has skinny on it and its a PAIN to get working |
| 18:29.49 | *** join/#asterisk VirTERM (~virterm@shiva.kanatek.com) |
| 18:29.56 | Assid | CSSP ? |
| 18:30.19 | SpaceBass | yeah |
| 18:30.23 | SpaceBass | best bet is to get the sip firmware |
| 18:30.47 | file | yeah you need the SIP firmware... |
| 18:31.06 | Assid | the thing is.. |
| 18:31.14 | Assid | iim kinda scared of blowing this up |
| 18:31.21 | Assid | i really cant afford this thing going boom |
| 18:31.48 | Assid | i can buy a cheaper phone.. here.. for my personal use.. as this belongs to a friend.. and costs wayyy more than i wanna spend on playing around |
| 18:32.29 | file | so do it. |
| 18:32.34 | gatty | so why not do your testing with a soft phone then choose a chaper phone you wanna buy? |
| 18:32.39 | gatty | s/chaper/cheaper |
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| 18:33.12 | SpaceBass | softphone may be the way to go |
| 18:33.14 | SpaceBass | x-lite |
| 18:33.45 | gatty | to use that Cisco of your friend's, you're gonna have to get hold of a SIP image (Cisco won't let you have it without a CCO login), flash it to SIP, configure it and asterisk and do your testing, then flash it back to SCCP for your friend's configuration and re-configure it for his setup again. |
| 18:33.54 | HD | sjlabs also has a good softphone |
| 18:33.59 | Assid | well.. ive already dont softphone |
| 18:34.00 | Assid | done.. |
| 18:34.03 | Assid | i like it |
| 18:34.13 | SpaceBass | Assid: e-bay a hard phone :) |
| 18:34.15 | Assid | i wanan do hard phone.. and give it at a cuz's office |
| 18:34.17 | Assid | hehe |
| 18:34.21 | Assid | how much you think they would be |
| 18:34.35 | SpaceBass | they range... $20 - 500 |
| 18:34.51 | SpaceBass | I got a simens for $20 and I paid $300 for my cisco 7940 new |
| 18:35.48 | SpaceBass | you can also check voip-supply.com |
| 18:35.49 | SpaceBass | isnt that it? |
| 18:35.53 | SpaceBass | ~voip supply |
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| 18:37.23 | Assid | yeah |
| 18:37.28 | Assid | thats where he got this from i think |
| 18:37.40 | Assid | is siemens good? |
| 18:37.55 | Assid | how would u rate the siemens against cisco |
| 18:38.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Assid : you want a cheap SIP hardphone? Not an ATA solution? |
| 18:38.28 | Assid | you mean the IAXy ATA ? |
| 18:38.40 | SpaceBass | the siemens is ok... but not in the same league as the cisco |
| 18:38.41 | Assid | the IAXy is 100$ right ? |
| 18:38.49 | SpaceBass | most people love the polycoms soo |
| 18:38.50 | Assid | SpaceBass: what makes it "less" |
| 18:39.23 | SpaceBass | Assid: what I have is an optipoint 100... pretty old... doesnt support sip passwords even... |
| 18:39.38 | Assid | hrmm |
| 18:39.44 | Assid | hows the clarity tho? |
| 18:39.51 | Assid | do they vary from maker/models? |
| 18:40.31 | SpaceBass | they all see to sound the same |
| 18:41.01 | SpaceBass | seem |
| 18:44.00 | [TK]D-Fender | Assid : I typically suggest Sipura ATA's over the IAXY for cost/port reasons. The IAXY is a smart call if you're on the road however. |
| 18:44.58 | [TK]D-Fender | For IP phones it depends on your usage & budget. For home use I find 200$US a bit much for a Polycom IP 500. I might sooner look at the Sipura SPA-841 or Uniden UIP-200 |
| 18:45.01 | SpaceBass | I havent had good luck with ATAs... I need to try a sipura or iaxy |
| 18:45.08 | pv2b | i like the bt101. but I don't have much to compare against. |
| 18:45.29 | gatty | Polycom kit is quite fussy about firmware revisions from what I know and have used of theirs. |
| 18:45.50 | SpaceBass | at home I have a hitachi-ip5000, a cisco 7940, 7912, a siemens and a zyxel |
| 18:45.58 | lilo | for channel staff: transcript of a mini-seminar on using channel join throttling.... there are kiddies about today and you may want to consider instituting it on an ongoing basis: http://www.freenode.net/recommended/throttling/tutorial.txt |
| 18:46.01 | SpaceBass | dont care for the zyxel at all... but the ciscos are great... but expensive |
| 18:46.21 | gatty | I have a cisco 7940 at home and two cisco ATA-186's in the lab. |
| 18:47.46 | Assid | SpaceBass: if the clarity is similar.. what are the extra features or plug points that make cisco soo damn exp?! |
| 18:48.12 | SpaceBass | one thing is the little cisco label... that seems to add $100 |
| 18:48.12 | SpaceBass | :) |
| 18:48.25 | pv2b | nobody ever got fired for buying cisco |
| 18:48.40 | SpaceBass | the 79xx can handle more than one line, which is nice... soft buttons, XML services, great GREAT speaker phones |
| 18:48.59 | gatty | in fairness, cisco are pretty quick to fix bugs compared to a lot of other vendors... just a shame about the non-standards-compliant PoE stuff |
| 18:49.38 | Assid | hrmm |
| 18:49.49 | SpaceBass | gatty: I used the modified cable I found on the wiki, works great |
| 18:50.04 | Assid | i am thinking about this 45$ phone.. microtek |
| 18:50.08 | gatty | SpaceBass: I'll be trying that tomorrow - didn't get time today. |
| 18:50.21 | Assid | they are the cheapest here |
| 18:50.23 | SpaceBass | Assid: if it is 45$, go for it! |
| 18:50.45 | Assid | as i said.. its only to learn.. and play |
| 18:50.49 | SpaceBass | I need a cheap phone for my bathroom... when we remodel I want to put one in :) |
| 18:51.09 | Assid | heheehe |
| 18:51.20 | gatty | is that for when you run out of bog roll? |
| 18:51.23 | darylp | ahhhhhhhhghhghhghghahhhhh |
| 18:51.30 | SpaceBass | Assid: I say you flash your friend's cisco :) he can always flash it back :) |
| 18:51.53 | Assid | whta is the chance of it being corrupted? |
| 18:52.02 | SpaceBass | nill |
| 18:52.03 | Assid | and what do i do if this gets corrupted |
| 18:52.06 | darylp | whatever hair I had, I now have less, and I think I'll be losing even more |
| 18:52.19 | SpaceBass | darylp: whats up? |
| 18:52.39 | darylp | I'll start with the simple stuff |
| 18:53.03 | darylp | playback(goodbye) complains the file does not exist |
| 18:53.15 | SpaceBass | ohhh |
| 18:53.25 | SpaceBass | have you looked in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds ? |
| 18:53.29 | SpaceBass | to see if its there |
| 18:53.29 | SpaceBass | ? |
| 18:53.57 | darylp | well, it's not |
| 18:54.05 | darylp | but vm_goodbye.gsm is |
| 18:54.05 | Assid | hrmm |
| 18:54.07 | Assid | lemme try this |
| 18:54.10 | wunderkin | vm-goodbye |
| 18:54.12 | Assid | lemme change my pc's ip |
| 18:54.27 | darylp | ok, I'll try vm_goodbye |
| 18:54.55 | darylp | I have a simple dialplan that answers, plays goodbye, and hangs up...but...although it runs hangup, the other end stays connected |
| 18:55.36 | SpaceBass | hummmmmm |
| 18:56.09 | darylp | and um, it doesn't like vm_goodbye either |
| 18:56.11 | darylp | sheesh |
| 18:56.16 | wunderkin | ........................ |
| 18:56.20 | wunderkin | look again |
| 18:56.42 | gatty | its vm-goodbye not vm_goodbye |
| 18:56.44 | *** join/#asterisk VirTERM (~virterm@shiva.kanatek.com) |
| 18:57.57 | gatty | hmm... "[19:54] <Assid> lemme change my pc's ip".... "[19:57] * Assid has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))"... *grins* |
| 18:57.59 | darylp | right you are, and that works, I'll call that progress |
| 18:58.18 | darylp | but it still doesn't hang up |
| 18:58.37 | gatty | what's the device on the other end? |
| 18:58.39 | SpaceBass | gatty: i'm guessing....17 and running Fedora core 3.0.... |
| 18:58.48 | SpaceBass | not that there is anything wrong with either... just a hunch |
| 18:59.08 | SpaceBass | s/fc/asterisk @ home |
| 18:59.19 | gatty | SpaceBass: probably... |
| 18:59.21 | darylp | x-lite |
| 19:00.08 | darylp | x-lite is registered to one fwd account and I'm using it to call another fwd account which asterisk answers |
| 19:00.38 | gatty | ok... have you tried x-lite straight to asterisk? |
| 19:00.49 | *** join/#asterisk The_LightSide (~dt@wbs-196-2-121-52.wbs.co.za) |
| 19:01.20 | *** join/#asterisk canche (~hbraun@200.6.235.138) |
| 19:01.32 | gatty | from experience its easier to build dialplans one step at a time, so get something working that connects straight to asterisk, then look to make that work with FWD and so on |
| 19:03.07 | infinity1 | i got the basics working on the digium card now. i called into asterisk and now i'm going to initiate a call using a port. |
| 19:03.19 | canche | quick question, when i have an asterisk pbx and 2 remote location calling beteewn them, do they consume bandwith in the asterisk location |
| 19:03.30 | canche | sorry for my english is not so good |
| 19:03.34 | SpaceBass | canche: yes |
| 19:04.01 | canche | how much, i imagine it depends on the codec you using |
| 19:04.02 | infinity1 | SpaceBass: i thought if you use iax, sometimes you can get the two endpoint to directly communicate |
| 19:04.14 | SpaceBass | really? didnt know that |
| 19:04.20 | *** join/#asterisk Assid (~assid@203.115.64.61) |
| 19:04.22 | Assid | bah |
| 19:04.24 | Assid | stupid router |
| 19:04.29 | SpaceBass | ;) |
| 19:04.31 | file[laptop] | native transfers... each side will communicate directly and the middle asterisk box disappears from the call |
| 19:04.41 | SpaceBass | I didnt know... only used sip |
| 19:04.55 | SpaceBass | and an iax softphone |
| 19:05.07 | file[laptop] | well in that case it won't magically happen |
| 19:05.24 | Assid | anyone managed to get voipbuster to work on asterisk? |
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| 19:05.28 | *** join/#asterisk jhiver (~jhiver@AStDenis-101-2-4-33.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:05.34 | jhiver | ~seen p0lar |
| 19:05.34 | jbot | p0lar <~p0lar@64.254.225.62> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 107d 22h 28m 40s ago, saying: 'time to order..hehe'. |
| 19:05.43 | shmaltz | happy 4 of July every1 |
| 19:05.45 | jhiver | ~seen shido6 |
| 19:05.45 | jbot | shido6 is currently on #asterisk (2h 2m 12s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 1h 38m 35s |
| 19:06.06 | jhiver | Anybody knows what happened to NuFone intl rates? |
| 19:06.24 | Assid | http://www.nufone.net/rates.csv.old |
| 19:06.40 | infinity1 | is there a list of dialplan best practices anywhere? |
| 19:06.46 | jhiver | are those still valid? |
| 19:06.49 | Assid | yeah |
| 19:06.51 | jhiver | I mean, why take 'em off? |
| 19:07.35 | Assid | umm.. sipura 841...do you have to go through the same hell of flashing and TFTP to get it working |
| 19:07.50 | *** join/#asterisk zeedo (~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net) |
| 19:07.53 | gatty | Assid: no. |
| 19:07.56 | shmaltz | Assid, thats not hell |
| 19:08.10 | shmaltz | hell is when it doesn't work |
| 19:08.21 | shmaltz | ~today |
| 19:08.21 | jbot | I don't know what today is, but it probably sucks. |
| 19:08.28 | gatty | Assid: its designed for SIP... Cisco's originally were designed for Cisco's own protocol (SCCP) and "modified" to work with SIP and H323 via different firmware |
| 19:08.29 | shmaltz | ~date |
| 19:08.29 | jbot | Mon Jul 4 19:08:29 2005 |
| 19:09.02 | shmaltz | well jbot doesn't know its a holiday for americans |
| 19:09.07 | shmaltz | ~nationality |
| 19:09.19 | shmaltz | ~location |
| 19:09.19 | jbot | ACTION is RIGHT BEHIND YOU, shmaltz! |
| 19:09.34 | The_LightSide | lol |
| 19:09.37 | gatty | does that mean I can say happy independence day to the damn yanks? :P ;) |
| 19:09.46 | shmaltz | yep |
| 19:09.58 | shmaltz | gatty whre you from? |
| 19:10.04 | gatty | england unfortunately |
| 19:10.07 | SpaceBass | jbot must not be a freedom loving american.... therefore, its part of the axis of evil |
| 19:10.20 | SpaceBass | unfortunately? |
| 19:10.32 | jhiver | gatty where about? |
| 19:10.36 | shmaltz | gatty, we won you 229 years ago |
| 19:10.59 | gatty | heh, if you could see the grayness and rain outside my window which has driven all the fit girls in short skirts and bikini tops away, you'd say unfortunately too! |
| 19:11.10 | gatty | jhiver: about 30 miles west of London. |
| 19:12.01 | shmaltz | gatty, but all the english girls are ugly |
| 19:12.04 | *** join/#asterisk jmann (~jim@c-24-8-27-242.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 19:12.07 | jhiver | anybody doing call termination to UK mobiles here? at what rates? |
| 19:12.17 | jhiver | (speaking of UK... might as well...) |
| 19:12.43 | infinity1 | wow. a conversation from zap to sip. crazy. |
| 19:12.57 | shmaltz | infinity1, why? |
| 19:13.14 | SpaceBass | good point... its quite warm here and that means skirts! |
| 19:13.41 | gatty | shmaltz: most, not all... although a lot of american girls aren't all that hot either - you just make up for it in pure numbers :) |
| 19:14.02 | ManxPower | Most of the USA does have sunny summers |
| 19:14.12 | shmaltz | ok, ok, lets not discuss our sexual preferences |
| 19:14.42 | shmaltz | it's just a wonderfull day here in south jersey |
| 19:14.50 | shmaltz | not even so humid I might add |
| 19:15.26 | ManxPower | Here in South Mississippi I don't know the temp outside, since most people around here try not to go outside in the summer if they can help it. |
| 19:15.49 | jmann | Does anyone here use asterisk@home behind nat that uses broadvoice for their provider?? |
| 19:15.56 | SpaceBass | jmann: me |
| 19:16.14 | *** join/#asterisk puowvip (ircuser@the-legacy-never-dies.diamond.org) |
| 19:16.29 | jhiver | come one jmann, this is /#asterisk/. We talk about skirts, weather and stuff |
| 19:16.40 | jhiver | :) |
| 19:16.47 | SpaceBass | jmann: stick to the main channel... others my have better answers than i do :) |
| 19:16.47 | jmann | ok |
| 19:17.03 | jmann | well I like them tall blonde and sweet |
| 19:17.13 | jhiver | lol :) |
| 19:17.15 | jmann | sorry my coffe that is |
| 19:17.15 | SpaceBass | skirts, weather, and voip.... the life of a geek :) |
| 19:17.44 | jhiver | yep, all virtual ;-) |
| 19:19.32 | The_LightSide | virtual weather, interesting concept |
| 19:19.43 | jhiver | well yeah |
| 19:20.04 | jhiver | it's like you're inside all day, and you look at the weather on the web, and you go "what shite weather" |
| 19:20.11 | The_LightSide | lol |
| 19:20.14 | jhiver | but you haven't been out all day! |
| 19:21.19 | *** join/#asterisk Falle (falstaf@voip-forum.se) |
| 19:21.21 | The_LightSide | sadly some of us work... so we have to go out |
| 19:22.07 | gatty | yep |
| 19:23.04 | jhiver | yeah, well, tough titties |
| 19:23.12 | jhiver | you're not that much of a geek then :) |
| 19:23.38 | file[laptop] | ..... |
| 19:23.41 | The_LightSide | how do i get * hardware if i dont work? |
| 19:24.03 | jhiver | lol I don't know I'm not that much of a geek either :) |
| 19:24.11 | The_LightSide | lol |
| 19:24.34 | jhiver | In fact I have to go out like everyday, fortunately it's almost always sunny |
| 19:27.29 | gatty | I need a beer. |
| 19:28.27 | jhiver | sounds like a plan! |
| 19:29.42 | gatty | I also need a couple of grenades and a smoke bomb... there's a microsoft conference going on at the University I work at. |
| 19:30.08 | Hmm-home | hey... I use windows |
| 19:30.14 | gatty | so do I |
| 19:30.21 | Hmm-home | for my gaming needs |
| 19:30.26 | gatty | doesn't mean I like microsoft :P |
| 19:30.35 | jmann | I'm sorry |
| 19:30.45 | jmann | that u use windoze |
| 19:30.50 | Hmm-home | linux just isn't there for gaming yet |
| 19:30.58 | jhiver | I use both |
| 19:30.59 | gatty | I kinda have to... some of the tools I use for my job and PhD research aren't available on linux |
| 19:31.11 | Assid | actually.. i am trying to convince a company RIGHT NOW to use linux |
| 19:31.24 | Assid | i had them use 1 machine since the past couple of months |
| 19:31.38 | Assid | on test basis.. but tehy are complaining it isnt as user friendly |
| 19:31.39 | jmann | how do they like |
| 19:31.44 | jhiver | I run 3 boxen with Linux, have a few Windows NT embedded VoIP devices, and a WinXP entertainment box |
| 19:32.02 | puowvip | anyone in here want a western electric princess phone |
| 19:32.05 | puowvip | it's rotary dial |
| 19:32.09 | Assid | they are like everything takes ATLEAST 5-6 steps where it shouldnt be more thn 2 |
| 19:32.17 | Assid | so everything is more complicated |
| 19:32.25 | gatty | screw user friendly... I have nothing against an OS biting you in the ass when something breaks - try developing embedded systems! |
| 19:33.53 | SpaceBass | jhiver: you have a mediacenter pc? |
| 19:34.20 | jhiver | no I don't actually |
| 19:34.24 | SpaceBass | too many computers |
| 19:34.25 | jhiver | just winxp |
| 19:34.30 | SpaceBass | oh |
| 19:34.58 | jhiver | I'm thinking of turning it into a PVR, but I haven't decided wether to use Windows or Linux on this one yet |
| 19:35.14 | gatty | MythTV is good for PVR :) |
| 19:35.30 | gatty | also has a handy SIP client! |
| 19:35.36 | *** join/#asterisk pbxbart (~pbx111@p54B007E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:35.49 | SpaceBass | I have 4 tivos... been thinking about trying myth |
| 19:35.52 | ManxPower | This looks interesting: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5785460247&ssPageName=ADME:B:RECO:US:2 |
| 19:36.20 | pbxbart | hello |
| 19:36.42 | jhiver | hi |
| 19:36.48 | jmann | hi |
| 19:36.59 | pbxbart | anyone working with realtime and multible servers? |
| 19:38.36 | jhiver | well, 10 boxes is good SpaceBass :) |
| 19:38.49 | puowvip | 3 wasn't enough, eh |
| 19:38.53 | SpaceBass | i duno... need more |
| 19:38.54 | pbxbart | i have a few issues I want to disuss with anone runnig such a config. Im just setting up a test system |
| 19:38.57 | SpaceBass | ;) |
| 19:39.06 | infinity1 | i'm trying to dialout. is there anything wrong with this? exten => _XXXXXXX,1,Dial(Zap/4/${EXTEN}) |
| 19:39.09 | jhiver | I have only 7 in my living space, though it will go up to 9 tomorrow :) |
| 19:39.30 | SpaceBass | why $EXTEN? |
| 19:39.31 | puowvip | infinity, I hadd to add a few www's to that. |
| 19:39.43 | ManxPower | infinity1: If Zap/4 is an FXO, then there's nothing wrong with it. |
| 19:40.01 | SpaceBass | I have a server room... well wife calls it the laundry room...but... theres where my domain controllers and linux boxes are |
| 19:40.06 | infinity1 | ManxPower: hrmz. zap/1 is fxs and zap/4 is fxo. |
| 19:40.15 | SpaceBass | droped 24 network ports through out the house.... 3 wireless APs |
| 19:40.18 | ManxPower | infinity1: what happens? |
| 19:40.26 | jhiver | sounds good |
| 19:40.26 | wunderkin | that mythtv looks sweet |
| 19:40.30 | infinity1 | ManxPower: i get this : Attempting native bridge of Zap/1-1 and Zap/4-1 |
| 19:40.35 | SpaceBass | myth has come a long way |
| 19:40.40 | ManxPower | infinity1: that's normal |
| 19:40.42 | SpaceBass | didnt use to be ready for prime time |
| 19:40.42 | infinity1 | ManxPower: the phone number i dial never rings |
| 19:41.06 | ManxPower | infinity1: wait longer. If you eventually get a telco message then put ww before ${EXTEN}. |
| 19:41.08 | puowvip | infinity, I had to add a few ww's to that to make it work. as in, Dial(Zap/4/ww${EXTEN}) |
| 19:41.14 | infinity1 | let me double check the dial tone on that line. it should work. |
| 19:41.17 | ManxPower | _XXXXXXX,1,Dial(Zap/4/ww${EXTEN}) |
| 19:41.20 | jhiver | I wonder how hard it is to get this IR blaster working with Myth |
| 19:41.23 | jhiver | anybody doing that? |
| 19:41.48 | puowvip | why on earth there's no way to detect dialtone is a mystery to me. |
| 19:41.48 | SpaceBass | ive never had luck with IR blasters |
| 19:41.56 | gatty | jhiver: lots of docs about that. |
| 19:42.28 | puowvip | what I'd like to know is whether there's any chance the tdm400 warranty covers lightning. :-) |
| 19:42.34 | jhiver | well, myth is kind of useless without tv programs and a way to change channels... |
| 19:42.40 | ManxPower | puowvip: Because the only ones that care about that lack of feature are people not qualified to fix it. |
| 19:43.04 | SpaceBass | will myth do hd? |
| 19:44.02 | unixmonster | Space: yes.. with the right card. HDTVPC card. |
| 19:44.17 | unixmonster | you need a fast processor and lots of HD space |
| 19:44.24 | ManxPower | You mean like is discussed on the 4th link on the google search: will myth do hd? |
| 19:44.36 | SpaceBass | my only problem is that directv will give me a tivo for $40... and it would cost llike $1000 to build a proper myth |
| 19:45.07 | puowvip | you're not considering the cost of the directv contract. |
| 19:45.22 | SpaceBass | no, but thats fixed... Id have to have that with myth too |
| 19:45.28 | unixmonster | oh, i don't know about google search.. i just sat down and saw question |
| 19:45.28 | *** join/#asterisk escualis (~carlos@201.236.3.20) |
| 19:46.08 | escualis | hello, i have this message on my * box |
| 19:46.30 | escualis | -- Got SIP response 405 "Method Not Allowed" back from <ip media gateway> |
| 19:46.36 | escualis | anyone knows what's mean? |
| 19:48.52 | infinity1 | ManxPower: after i see Attempting native bridge of Zap/1-1 and Zap/4-1, the source phone rings once, and then it waits a while, and disconnects |
| 19:49.25 | infinity1 | strange. |
| 19:49.56 | *** join/#asterisk ChakaZulu (~ChakaZ@p54A12194.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:50.28 | infinity1 | puowvip: yer a genious |
| 19:51.21 | infinity1 | adding ww to it worked |
| 19:51.33 | The_LightSide | just out of interest: how many females are there here? |
| 19:51.53 | infinity1 | what does w mean ? |
| 19:51.55 | gatty | I'd be amazed if there are any, The_LightSide. |
| 19:51.58 | gatty | w = wait |
| 19:52.48 | The_LightSide | gatty : thats y im asking :) |
| 19:53.04 | infinity1 | sarah |
| 19:53.13 | infinity1 | isn't she female? |
| 19:54.00 | infinity1 | i don't see her around right now. |
| 19:54.54 | The_LightSide | oh, well, as i said, just curious |
| 19:57.53 | *** join/#asterisk clive- (~pirch@rrba-146-117-61.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 20:01.12 | escualis | hello? |
| 20:01.25 | infinity1 | goodbye |
| 20:02.09 | tzafrir | hi |
| 20:02.31 | tzafrir | escualis, if you want to ask a question, please do |
| 20:03.16 | escualis | anyone know what mean this: -- Got SIP response 405 "Method Not Allowed" back from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx |
| 20:03.28 | tzafrir | And until he does, I'd appreciate it if someone could try to reproduce http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=4637 in HEAD. simple instructions are there. Don't try on a production box |
| 20:03.30 | escualis | where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP of my Media Gateway |
| 20:03.44 | pbxbart | if there is anyone out there willing to talk with me over realtime configs. please contact me here or on pbx111 @ gmail.com |
| 20:04.49 | clive- | I have a q....if I move the files /usr/src/asterisk into a new directory as a backup, and I move them back to that location, why does it not seem to give me the correct version again |
| 20:06.29 | ManxPower | escualis: You may have allow=all in sip.conf |
| 20:07.18 | pbxbart | i have 3 test server up and running |
| 20:07.52 | tzafrir | escualis, you try to do something that is not supported by the other side |
| 20:08.13 | *** join/#asterisk DannyF (~dannyf@h74n1fls32o865.telia.com) |
| 20:09.00 | escualis | the other side is a cisco 5300 |
| 20:09.10 | escualis | i'm trying to make a trunk |
| 20:09.12 | escualis | :( |
| 20:09.31 | gatty | escualis, you could try taking a packet capture and seeing what's in the initial SIP request then try to figure out which bit the cisco doesn't like |
| 20:09.43 | gatty | it may be something as simple as an INVITE. |
| 20:09.55 | *** join/#asterisk colinm_ (~colol@VDSL-130-13-8-95.PHNX.QWEST.NET) |
| 20:10.20 | *** join/#asterisk virterm (~virterm@shiva.kanatek.com) |
| 20:11.06 | escualis | ok, sorry i'm newbie |
| 20:11.38 | Assid | hrmm |
| 20:11.48 | gatty | just a suggestion |
| 20:11.49 | Assid | i really wish i could set this x100p up correctly |
| 20:12.04 | Assid | everytime i try making a call.. it gives some weird tones |
| 20:12.08 | Assid | prolly the frequencies |
| 20:14.44 | The_LightSide | Assid: have u checked ur tx and rx gain? |
| 20:14.50 | *** join/#asterisk Romik_ (~romik@1.fix.netvision.net.il) |
| 20:15.00 | Assid | nah |
| 20:15.07 | The_LightSide | try those |
| 20:15.10 | Assid | didnt touch it |
| 20:15.18 | Assid | wait.. lemme plug it back in |
| 20:15.24 | Assid | do i have to recompile zaptel? |
| 20:15.30 | The_LightSide | no, |
| 20:15.46 | Assid | okay one sec |
| 20:15.50 | The_LightSide | theres a command which is a text display of the levels |
| 20:15.51 | Assid | powering down the box |
| 20:16.02 | The_LightSide | not even pluged in?! |
| 20:16.06 | Assid | nope |
| 20:16.08 | Assid | i removed it |
| 20:16.13 | Assid | was having some problems |
| 20:16.30 | Assid | also.. the PC's led for processing was always on.. when the card was plugged in |
| 20:16.46 | Assid | its a clone |
| 20:16.49 | gatty | it will be... the X100p generates a lot of interrupts |
| 20:17.08 | The_LightSide | it is basically a normal voice modem |
| 20:17.21 | Assid | yeah??? |
| 20:17.26 | The_LightSide | yip |
| 20:17.28 | Assid | i should have bought it from |
| 20:17.29 | Assid | here |
| 20:17.36 | infinity1 | how can i dial using nufone if my zap interface is busy? |
| 20:17.43 | gatty | X10xP is EOL'd anyway I thought? |
| 20:17.52 | infinity1 | i see you can group zap interfaces, but how do you group zap+ip? |
| 20:18.00 | Assid | stupid idiot like me bought on ebay.. and spent 100 times more than i shoudl have |
| 20:18.08 | The_LightSide | not as far as i know |
| 20:18.27 | Assid | can i buy another dlink internal modem and use that? |
| 20:18.30 | escualis | gatty, you know how trunk a asterisk box and a cisco router without user and password? |
| 20:18.45 | gatty | infinity1: one way is to check the status returned from the Dial(Zap/blah) stuff and if it failed - if it did, dial via your IP provider |
| 20:18.48 | escualis | i only have the ip address and one dial rule |
| 20:19.03 | escualis | i'm trying with AMPortal |
| 20:19.08 | infinity1 | gatty: hm. |
| 20:19.10 | gatty | escualis: no, sorry... but without user/pass sounds like a bad idea to me. |
| 20:19.15 | escualis | but doesn't work :( |
| 20:19.28 | escualis | for me too but i dont have access to the router |
| 20:19.43 | The_LightSide | Assid: it should work |
| 20:19.46 | Assid | hrmm |
| 20:19.47 | Assid | damn |
| 20:19.49 | Assid | i messed up |
| 20:19.59 | *** join/#asterisk wrarrl (~Myself@200.46.209.163) |
| 20:20.12 | escualis | the owner says me.. only call to his extension ie: 654#countrycode+areacode+number |
| 20:20.17 | infinity1 | gatty: is that the best way to do it? |
| 20:20.22 | Assid | why dont it work with external modems?? |
| 20:20.53 | gatty | infinity1: its one way, wouldn't say best or worst :P |
| 20:20.55 | The_LightSide | probably interupts |
| 20:21.07 | infinity1 | gatty: what are other ways? |
| 20:21.20 | *** join/#asterisk point (1000@213.27.44.55) |
| 20:21.43 | gatty | infinity1: there used to be a command (dunno if it still exists) that would check to see if a channel is in use... the problem with that is it means tweaking the dialplan every time you add more channels |
| 20:22.50 | Assid | The_LightSide: no way to use external huh? |
| 20:23.16 | infinity1 | gatty: interesting. didn't think of that. |
| 20:23.19 | The_LightSide | not that i know off. :( |
| 20:23.26 | The_LightSide | still a bit of a newbie |
| 20:23.40 | *** join/#asterisk siprman (~fernando@200.196.30.254) |
| 20:25.08 | Assid | hrmm |
| 20:25.11 | Assid | plugged it in |
| 20:25.17 | Assid | now the box isnt going on network |
| 20:25.36 | The_LightSide | LOL!! |
| 20:25.38 | shido6 | . |
| 20:25.40 | shido6 | ? |
| 20:25.52 | gatty | Assid, try a different PCI slot |
| 20:26.04 | gatty | it sounds like your X100 is sharing with your Ethernet controller |
| 20:26.12 | Assid | stupid crap.. |
| 20:26.13 | gatty | s/sharing/sharing interrupts/ |
| 20:26.31 | *** join/#asterisk SpaceBass (~sp@c-24-125-184-203.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 20:26.35 | gatty | X100 really doesn't like interrupt sharing, does all sorts of weird things ;) |
| 20:26.49 | gatty | infinity1: you looked at that config link yet? |
| 20:27.18 | infinity1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.04 | Assid | i really should have bought a local internal modem |
| 20:28.12 | Assid | spent way too much on this |
| 20:28.35 | Assid | more than 2 times of what its worth here |
| 20:28.56 | infinity1 | gatty: thanks. i'll check it out. |
| 20:29.46 | Assid | damn |
| 20:29.49 | Assid | it still isnt working |
| 20:29.56 | Assid | i think i jhad it working on this port last time |
| 20:30.04 | gatty | Assid: * doesn't work too well with "normal" modems from what I understand. I've always used proper Digium hardware and with the exception of my X101P that stopped talking to the PCI bus, I've had no problems. |
| 20:31.21 | tzafrir | actually, here we have a bunch of X100Ps that work just fine and two malfunctioning digium cards |
| 20:31.21 | infinity1 | gatty: what do you have ${DIALSTATUS} defined as? |
| 20:31.42 | Assid | lemme plug my monitor and see whats happening |
| 20:31.47 | Assid | something tells me its not going on lan |
| 20:31.52 | SpaceBass | normal modems or win modems won't work |
| 20:31.59 | SpaceBass | get a x100p off ebay for $10 |
| 20:32.03 | Assid | i did |
| 20:32.09 | gatty | infinity1: it gets set by the Dial() |
| 20:32.36 | Assid | 6$ for the device.. another 16$ or so for shipping |
| 20:35.18 | gatty | infinity1: the nice thing with the method I used is that it works fine with zap groups without modification :) |
| 20:35.34 | Assid | hrmm |
| 20:35.40 | Assid | now the card refuses to work |
| 20:36.03 | gatty | does it show up in lspci? |
| 20:36.13 | Assid | dunno cant access it |
| 20:36.19 | *** join/#asterisk DarthClue (~Headaches@adsl-70-244-228-14.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net) |
| 20:36.21 | Assid | no monitor.. no keyboard |
| 20:36.24 | Assid | i always use ssh onto it |
| 20:37.06 | Assid | lemme remove the card and see if it comes up |
| 20:37.06 | Assid | ive had it start with the card before |
| 20:37.06 | Assid | i distinctly remember |
| 20:37.37 | Assid | and at that time.. i had it even trying tro make a call |
| 20:38.05 | infinity1 | gatty: seems if you want to use IP as backup, using your pstn-outbound, you'll get a hangup |
| 20:38.39 | gatty | infinity1: you can modify the s-CHANUNAVAIL one to dial via IP. |
| 20:39.15 | Assid | nope |
| 20:39.16 | Assid | no lan |
| 20:39.17 | Assid | hrmm |
| 20:39.20 | infinity1 | gatty: k. i'll look at that in more dtail |
| 20:41.38 | *** join/#asterisk SpaceBass (~sp@c-24-125-184-203.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 20:42.13 | SpaceBass | arrruggg damn connection keeps going down |
| 20:42.50 | gatty | just can't get the ISPs these days ;) |
| 20:43.05 | SpaceBass | :) |
| 20:43.47 | SpaceBass | comcast dialed up their power all the way after the hurricane we had 2 years ago, and now they are slowly dialing it back down to see how low they can get it |
| 20:43.52 | SpaceBass | not sure why |
| 20:44.06 | gatty | probably got the electricity bill |
| 20:44.19 | SpaceBass | ok.... who mentioned mythtv earlier? now I'm obsessed |
| 20:46.52 | gatty | me |
| 20:46.53 | gatty | sorry |
| 20:46.53 | SpaceBass | i didnt need antother computer project... seriously... |
| 20:46.53 | gatty | lol |
| 20:46.53 | infinity1 | SpaceBass: heh |
| 20:46.53 | gatty | you checked out the SIP stuff it supports? ;) |
| 20:46.53 | SpaceBass | dont see a capture card that has hdmi or component hd inputs |
| 20:46.53 | DarthClue | SpaceBass: mythTV is nice. but you don't have time for it. |
| 20:46.53 | SpaceBass | gatty: thanks... googling now :*( |
| 20:46.53 | SpaceBass | :( |
| 20:46.53 | *** join/#asterisk iceyp (~icepick@firewall.unix.co.nz) |
| 20:46.53 | SpaceBass | DarthClue: I need another HD tivo, and they are $500 now, so if I could do myth for the same cost... I would...maybe |
| 20:47.02 | DarthClue | SpaceBass: i might be possible...if you don't bill yourself for the time. |
| 20:47.17 | SpaceBass | DarthClue: I work for beer anyway |
| 20:47.30 | gatty | I looked at it, got everything running apart from the DTV-T cards which had naff drivers under linux and kept keeling over. |
| 20:48.04 | SpaceBass | dtv-t? |
| 20:48.14 | gatty | digital tv - terrestrial |
| 20:48.18 | SpaceBass | ahhh |
| 20:48.36 | gatty | pretty much the UK equivalent of your HDTV, except very little of it is HD :( |
| 20:48.42 | gatty | all mpeg2 mp@ml based though |
| 20:48.49 | SpaceBass | oh |
| 20:49.22 | gatty | is nice that you can just slap as many cards in as your box will support and you can record / watch that many channels |
| 20:49.35 | gatty | there's even remote front end support so you can watch anywhere on your LAN ;) |
| 20:49.47 | SpaceBass | now thats slick |
| 20:49.52 | *** part/#asterisk wunderkin (kev@12-215-218-160.client.mchsi.com) |
| 20:50.00 | *** join/#asterisk wunderkin (kev@12-215-218-160.client.mchsi.com) |
| 20:50.07 | SpaceBass | what I'd need to have is dvi or hdmi input or component hd input |
| 20:50.28 | Assid | okay got it working |
| 20:50.39 | Assid | now tell me |
| 20:51.17 | file | lol some guy in Denmark is trying to get into my server |
| 20:51.17 | wrarrl | hi, does anyone here have experience connecting Vonage lines to TDM cards? |
| 20:51.33 | Assid | 0000:00:0a.0 Communication controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN interface |
| 20:51.39 | Assid | now? |
| 20:51.41 | gatty | Assid: yep that's the one |
| 20:52.12 | gatty | assuming you have zaptel compiled... modprobe zaptel, then modprobe wcfxo |
| 20:52.18 | iceyp | hey guys.... anyone ever had issues loading new firmware to a cisco 7940; seems there isn't enough space on the hardware |
| 20:52.22 | *** join/#asterisk ptblank (~MURDER1@68-65-93-235.lmdaca.adelphia.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:52.22 | *** join/#asterisk silug (~steve@customer34.wisperisp.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:52.22 | *** join/#asterisk Corndawg_ (whoisit@c-66-176-249-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:52.22 | *** join/#asterisk DeFi (~DeFi@ip68-6-40-245.sb.sd.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:52.22 | Assid | zaptel was already on |
| 20:52.41 | Assid | wcfxo 12832 0 |
| 20:52.41 | Assid | zaptel 228484 2 wcfxo,ztdummy |
| 20:52.59 | SpaceBass | iceyp: what version are you going from and to? |
| 20:53.11 | SpaceBass | I'm drinking warm beer... i feel so british :) |
| 20:53.19 | iceyp | well the phone has nothing on it from what i can tell, when it boots it says "Application load invalid" |
| 20:53.31 | SpaceBass | hey- I'm an anglophile... big fan |
| 20:53.34 | iceyp | so i setup my tftp etc and trying to get it to upgrade to the latest |
| 20:53.44 | gatty | what beer though? |
| 20:54.00 | SpaceBass | iceyp: I had that problem (too large) when I tried to go from 5.x to 7.x |
| 20:54.11 | SpaceBass | and it was related to the signed image vs unsigned |
| 20:54.12 | iceyp | What you do to fix it |
| 20:54.17 | SpaceBass | iceyp: i loaded 6.4 first |
| 20:54.19 | iceyp | how do you use unsigned |
| 20:54.21 | iceyp | ahhh |
| 20:54.22 | iceyp | mmmm |
| 20:54.32 | SpaceBass | gatty: Dogfish Head... microbrew from Deleware on the east coast |
| 20:54.48 | SpaceBass | iceyp: you have a CCO login? |
| 20:54.53 | iceyp | not that much of a space difference |
| 20:55.02 | iceyp | nah cant telnet to it unfortunately |
| 20:55.09 | iceyp | otherwise i could check space availblility |
| 20:55.18 | gatty | SpaceBass: I'll let you off then. None of this usual american piss water that passes vaguely as beer. :) |
| 20:55.20 | SpaceBass | cco login = cisco site |
| 20:55.26 | Assid | ztcfg says 0 channels |
| 20:55.30 | iceyp | ahh nah, work does, i dont |
| 20:55.36 | Assid | gotta edit configs |
| 20:55.37 | SpaceBass | iceyp: in other words, do you have access to different firmware images? |
| 20:55.39 | Assid | agan |
| 20:55.44 | iceyp | SpaceBass yes i have them all |
| 20:55.47 | iceyp | work gave them to me |
| 20:56.03 | clive- | any good suggestions on how to do a version upgrade on a production box, so that one can revert back to an older version if needed? |
| 20:56.07 | SpaceBass | gatty: I dont drink lite beer :) |
| 20:56.09 | iceyp | P0S3-05-3-00.sbn, P0S3-06-0-00.bin, P0S3-06-0-00.sbn |
| 20:56.19 | SpaceBass | iceyp: try going to 5.3 first |
| 20:56.22 | iceyp | i want to use P0S3-07-4-00.zip |
| 20:56.23 | SpaceBass | then 6.4 |
| 20:56.24 | iceyp | ok |
| 20:56.29 | SpaceBass | can go stright to 7.4 |
| 20:56.51 | SpaceBass | iceyp: what is your tftp server? |
| 20:57.33 | iceyp | well it's on my laptop at the moment, but i'm going to be using my telehoused box which i've setup tftp on: max.fast.co.nz |
| 20:58.10 | *** part/#asterisk DarthClue (~Headaches@adsl-70-244-228-14.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net) |
| 20:58.17 | SpaceBass | cool... was just curious... I've been trying to find the log files on CentOS and cannot |
| 20:58.20 | *** join/#asterisk DarthClue (~Headaches@adsl-70-244-228-14.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net) |
| 20:58.53 | iceyp | i can only try when i get home tonight |
| 20:59.18 | Assid | hey brb |
| 20:59.19 | Assid | reboot |
| 20:59.51 | SpaceBass | iceyp: going to 5.4 should be easy |
| 21:00.22 | file | so yeah if this code I just wrote gets into CVS, gonna be another dependency for Asterisk... 'tsk 'tsk |
| 21:00.43 | iceyp | SpaceBass will that clear out all the old junk in the phone |
| 21:00.47 | iceyp | maybe clearing some space |
| 21:01.05 | DarthClue | file: what code is that? |
| 21:01.10 | iceyp | and also how do i ensure it writes the image to ram, the reason being is I think my phone was previously downloading it from TFTP every time |
| 21:02.23 | file | DarthClue: presence-like code |
| 21:02.47 | SpaceBass | iceyp: yep |
| 21:02.52 | SpaceBass | iceyp: totally wipe it |
| 21:02.59 | file | for chan_sip right now |
| 21:03.08 | SpaceBass | its really not a space issue, thats just what the phone reports for somereason |
| 21:03.20 | DarthClue | Go File Go! |
| 21:03.24 | DarthClue | ~cluecon |
| 21:03.24 | jbot | [cluecon] http://www.cluecon.com - Cluecon is an Open Source Telephony Expo and Developer's Conference geared towards open source Telephony enthusiasts and developers around the world. There will be a full schedule of expert speakers as well as many presentations and booths from various telephony related businesses. |
| 21:03.38 | *** join/#asterisk Assid (~assid@203.115.64.61) |
| 21:03.41 | Assid | heya |
| 21:03.50 | SpaceBass | iceyp: it looks on tftp for a config file and if that file specifies a new firmware, it writes it to ram, when it reboots if the version hasn't changed it won't redownload it |
| 21:04.11 | Assid | okay.. now that thats done. |
| 21:04.17 | Assid | lemme try |
| 21:05.51 | file | Everyone should go to Cluecon! |
| 21:05.58 | file | I know I'll be there. |
| 21:07.20 | Assid | hrmm |
| 21:07.21 | Assid | woohoo |
| 21:07.23 | Assid | i got it to work |
| 21:07.26 | SpaceBass | LOL |
| 21:07.26 | Assid | outgoing calls fine |
| 21:07.27 | Assid | now.. |
| 21:07.30 | Assid | i wanna do incoming calls |
| 21:07.36 | Assid | and then route it through asterisk |
| 21:07.37 | Assid | onto the net |
| 21:08.07 | Assid | first and foremost i gotta figure out how to handle incoming calls |
| 21:08.35 | file[laptop] | yay! |
| 21:09.31 | Assid | anyone got something for incoming-pots? |
| 21:10.38 | *** join/#asterisk j4m3s (~debbie@216.207.245.18) |
| 21:10.39 | DarthClue | Assid: what context did you set the zap lines to? |
| 21:11.22 | SpaceBass | Assid: what are you looking for? |
| 21:12.03 | Assid | DarthClue in extensions? |
| 21:12.31 | DarthClue | Assid: in zaptel.conf |
| 21:12.58 | Assid | SpaceBass: well.. finally i want an IVRS.. for leaving voicemail incase i am not at home.. if i am caling in.. i dial a extension.. and it should authenticate.. and let me make international calls through this |
| 21:13.16 | SpaceBass | gotcha |
| 21:13.40 | SpaceBass | Assid: have you looked at asterisk@home |
| 21:13.41 | SpaceBass | ~aah |
| 21:13.42 | jbot | i heard aah is Asterisk@Home. The Asterisk@Home support forum is here: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=420324 |
| 21:14.02 | Assid | SpaceBass: no context |
| 21:14.21 | Assid | SpaceBass: nah.. cant.. i use this box for other things.. and i "need" my debian |
| 21:14.24 | SpaceBass | hey... I like @home and its perfectly suited for what he wants |
| 21:14.29 | SpaceBass | Assid: ok |
| 21:14.39 | *** join/#asterisk jeffgus (~jeffgus@greengables.zimage.com) |
| 21:14.56 | SpaceBass | Assid: assign a context for your PSTN line in zapata.conf someting like context=from-pstn |
| 21:15.40 | Assid | SpaceBass: dont know what to put in that |
| 21:15.49 | SpaceBass | in the from-pstn |
| 21:15.50 | SpaceBass | ? |
| 21:15.57 | Assid | yes |
| 21:16.12 | Assid | do i define another channel? |
| 21:16.17 | Assid | or same channel? |
| 21:16.33 | Assid | i got all taht in zapata |
| 21:16.45 | SpaceBass | s,1,answer() s,2,dial(SIP/xxx|25), s,3,goto(Assids-IVR,s,1) |
| 21:17.18 | shido6 | errr |
| 21:17.19 | shido6 | K |
| 21:17.51 | Assid | that goes to zapata ? |
| 21:17.56 | Assid | i thought thats in extension |
| 21:18.07 | shido6 | no |
| 21:18.10 | SpaceBass | thats in extensions.conf |
| 21:18.11 | shido6 | in zapata |
| 21:18.31 | shido6 | look for "context" or put "context=from-pstn" above the "channel" you want to "answer" |
| 21:18.32 | shido6 | ok? |
| 21:18.37 | SpaceBass | shido6: hes asking about what to put in his from-analog context |
| 21:18.39 | shido6 | then |
| 21:18.42 | shido6 | in extensions.conf |
| 21:18.48 | shido6 | you may use SpaceBass' example |
| 21:18.52 | shido6 | see how that works? |
| 21:19.00 | wrarrl | does anyone here have experience connecting Vonage lines to TDM cards? |
| 21:19.22 | Assid | that currently has from-analog |
| 21:19.38 | shido6 | fill in the gaps - |
| 21:19.48 | Assid | yeah.. tyring to |
| 21:20.03 | shido6 | from-analog does what "from-pstn" would do, right? |
| 21:20.04 | shido6 | :) |
| 21:20.21 | shido6 | take a deep breath - its really simple and you'll figre that out once you get it working |
| 21:20.50 | Assid | yeah.. |
| 21:20.53 | Assid | lemme give it a try |
| 21:20.57 | shido6 | the time from when you started to now is the most important - you're almost finished with the first part of comprehending how all this works |
| 21:21.00 | shido6 | you're so close |
| 21:22.03 | shido6 | you cannot penetrate my iron-shirt kung fu |
| 21:22.27 | file[laptop] | darn |
| 21:22.39 | Assid | yes got it |
| 21:22.49 | shido6 | aha! |
| 21:22.54 | Assid | but.. the callerid on my softphone said asterisk |
| 21:22.59 | shido6 | your asterisk -fu is getting strong, Assid |
| 21:23.04 | infinity1 | if i have Zap/4/9w${EXTEN} is that 9w the same as wwwwwwwww? |
| 21:23.12 | infinity1 | i don't see this documented anywhere. |
| 21:23.28 | Assid | hehe |
| 21:23.28 | file[laptop] | DarthClue: SLACKER! |
| 21:23.30 | Assid | geting there.. |
| 21:23.32 | Assid | nic and slow |
| 21:23.55 | *** join/#asterisk SarahEmm (~sarahemm_@MTL-HSE-ppp168389.qc.sympatico.ca) |
| 21:23.58 | Assid | i dont see the caller id mentioned in the vvvvv |
| 21:24.05 | SpaceBass | Assid: the asterisk handbook is a good read |
| 21:24.09 | SarahEmm | mewhi |
| 21:24.11 | SpaceBass | well... if you like that kind of thing, its good |
| 21:24.23 | Assid | but i can get the caller id right? |
| 21:24.49 | shido6 | do you have a real x100p? |
| 21:24.52 | Assid | clone |
| 21:24.56 | shido6 | hrmm |
| 21:24.59 | shido6 | got a soldering iron? |
| 21:25.01 | Assid | 0000:00:0a.0 Communication controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN interface |
| 21:25.04 | SpaceBass | Hey SarahEmm ! |
| 21:25.07 | Assid | yep.. |
| 21:25.13 | Assid | i have one somewhere |
| 21:25.15 | shido6 | then you may be able to get Callerid |
| 21:25.27 | SpaceBass | hummm how to telnet into a cisco phone in privledged mode |
| 21:25.43 | shido6 | u have a pword set on the phone, SpaceBass? |
| 21:27.21 | SarahEmm | err DarthClue! |
| 21:27.27 | file[laptop] | SarahEmm: kitrich! |
| 21:27.32 | SarahEmm | <-- kitrich |
| 21:27.41 | SpaceBass | shido6: yep |
| 21:27.55 | SpaceBass | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.01 | MikeJ[Laptop] | file!! |
| 21:28.09 | shido6 | just use "reset" nextime |
| 21:28.10 | shido6 | telnet in |
| 21:28.12 | shido6 | enter pword |
| 21:28.13 | file[laptop] | MikeJ!!! |
| 21:28.14 | shido6 | and type "reset" |
| 21:28.17 | shido6 | it will reboot |
| 21:28.17 | MikeJ[Laptop] | so anyone think asterisk is ever going to get a commit again? |
| 21:28.29 | DarthClue | MikeJ: when was the last commit? |
| 21:28.33 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ummmm |
| 21:28.37 | file[laptop] | awhile ago |
| 21:28.46 | DarthClue | file: SLACKER!!! |
| 21:28.53 | file[laptop] | well, a commit that effected us was on Thursday |
| 21:28.53 | SpaceBass | shido6: i used reset and it said I had to be in privledged mode |
| 21:28.56 | MikeJ[Laptop] | the last asterisk commit that did not involve chan_zap was a week and a half ago |
| 21:29.12 | SpaceBass | shido6: will a 7940 work with .raw ring files? |
| 21:29.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | anthms commit's don't count |
| 21:29.18 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hehe |
| 21:29.19 | shido6 | muahaha |
| 21:29.31 | file[laptop] | MikeJ[Laptop]: I have to count them, he's my boss! |
| 21:29.36 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hehe |
| 21:29.37 | shido6 | I believe so - make a RINGLIST.DAT |
| 21:29.37 | file[laptop] | well, one of them |
| 21:29.54 | SpaceBass | got the ringlist.dat and I have added pcm files successfully |
| 21:29.58 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I wish I had a monkywrench |
| 21:30.03 | file[laptop] | DarthClue: you should do something for me |
| 21:30.17 | DarthClue | file: i don't get paid enough for that. |
| 21:30.47 | file[laptop] | didn't think so :P |
| 21:30.49 | shido6 | so whats up, SpaceBass ? |
| 21:30.53 | file[laptop] | is Mr. Todd on here? |
| 21:30.57 | file[laptop] | jtodd: there you are |
| 21:30.59 | shido6 | when u click on settings |
| 21:31.01 | DarthClue | file: what is it that you are looking for. |
| 21:31.02 | shido6 | ring type |
| 21:31.09 | SpaceBass | nada, just downloading ring tones |
| 21:31.12 | file[laptop] | DarthClue: all relevant RFCs for SIP/Presence/Messaging |
| 21:31.17 | shido6 | what do you get? ( the ringlist.dat and files should be on the tftp server ) |
| 21:31.17 | jtodd | file[laptop] Yes. |
| 21:31.29 | file[laptop] | jtodd: it is I, Joshua Colp. Shall we converse in private meessage? |
| 21:31.34 | SpaceBass | shido6: havent tried it yet... just didnt know if .raw files would work |
| 21:31.34 | jtodd | Surely. |
| 21:31.40 | MikeJ[Laptop] | don't do it!!! |
| 21:31.42 | shido6 | yes |
| 21:31.48 | shido6 | my 24ctu.raw |
| 21:31.49 | shido6 | works |
| 21:31.50 | shido6 | :) |
| 21:31.54 | MikeJ[Laptop] | he sucks you in, then he will suck out your brain |
| 21:35.34 | SpaceBass | why won't apple release itunes for linux? seems like an easy port |
| 21:35.58 | gatty | SpaceBass: if only they would... its a support nightmare though |
| 21:36.10 | SpaceBass | yeah, I guess thats it |
| 21:36.18 | SpaceBass | that's the killer app keeping me on xp on the desktop |
| 21:36.29 | SpaceBass | that and outlook, but I could use evoloution |
| 21:36.43 | gatty | will be interesting seeing what happens with these "new" intel-based macs |
| 21:36.51 | *** join/#asterisk zeedo (~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net) |
| 21:36.52 | shido6 | you will soon have the ma os you can use, so give it a few weeks |
| 21:36.56 | shido6 | +c |
| 21:36.59 | SpaceBass | yeah... won't be much different |
| 21:37.11 | SpaceBass | it will be locked to apple hardware |
| 21:37.22 | shido6 | not unless you run the crack |
| 21:37.36 | SpaceBass | crack? |
| 21:37.54 | SpaceBass | if i could load os x on my current intel, I'd be a happy little clam |
| 21:38.09 | shido6 | give it a few weeks |
| 21:38.15 | gatty | don't think there's a crack - I thought their PPC <-> x86 instruction set bridge was a hardware device |
| 21:38.35 | shido6 | you're forgetting about pearpc |
| 21:38.54 | SpaceBass | pearpc is a joke.... it runs at like 25mhz |
| 21:38.55 | SpaceBass | :) |
| 21:38.56 | gatty | I'd really rather forget about pearpc having tried it |
| 21:39.13 | shido6 | the info gathered to build that app is used to open up other hardware possibilities |
| 21:39.29 | shido6 | heh |
| 21:39.39 | SpaceBass | anyone using evoloution as an email client? |
| 21:39.43 | shido6 | run it on a ram disk on a dual proc box wih 4gb of ram :) |
| 21:40.04 | SpaceBass | lol |
| 21:40.14 | gatty | you buy me an AMD X2 CPU and I'll give it a go ;) |
| 21:40.22 | shido6 | whats your paypal address? |
| 21:40.34 | gatty | lol |
| 21:42.29 | *** join/#asterisk truescot (~ts@84.119.222.91) |
| 21:43.07 | truescot | hello all, is there anyone who can give me help with iax2 and freeworld dialup? |
| 21:43.28 | truescot | i have it all set up but every time i try to dial i am told that all circuits are busy |
| 21:43.36 | Assid | hrmm.. gatty: what do i have to do to get CID ? |
| 21:43.39 | SarahEmm | shido6, you around? |
| 21:43.59 | shido6 | yep |
| 21:44.04 | SpaceBass | asterisk -r |
| 21:44.11 | SarahEmm | shido6: any word on the local DID and tollfree i'd wanted to get set up? |
| 21:44.12 | gatty | Assid: no idea... CID doesn't work on my upstream PBX so never used it. |
| 21:44.18 | shido6 | are you going to make me manually set you up? :) |
| 21:44.27 | SarahEmm | shido6: err, i'm just curious |
| 21:44.41 | Assid | hrmm |
| 21:44.46 | Assid | okay.. lemme try one more thing |
| 21:44.47 | shido6 | I can get u the 8xx and 416 now if you want - but if you asked for some vanity number you have to wait for them to respond |
| 21:44.48 | SarahEmm | shido6: it's no huge hurry, just wondering what your ETA is :) |
| 21:45.01 | SarahEmm | yeah, the 8xx is vanity the 416 is not |
| 21:45.03 | *** join/#asterisk pfn (500@netblock-66-245-252-239.dslextreme.com) |
| 21:45.06 | shido6 | ahhh |
| 21:45.06 | shido6 | ok |
| 21:45.14 | gatty | Assid: and I'm also screwed being in the UK... CID over here is somewhat dodgy, doesn't use any real "standard", just some bodge done by British Telecom |
| 21:45.15 | SarahEmm | you asked that i email you, so i did :o) |
| 21:45.27 | SarahEmm | meow? |
| 21:45.27 | shido6 | from what email add |
| 21:45.38 | SarahEmm | what is mine, you mean? sarahemm@sarahemm.net |
| 21:47.04 | truescot | anyone able to help with free world dialup? |
| 21:47.09 | SarahEmm | SpaceBass: hehe :o) |
| 21:47.10 | SarahEmm | meow |
| 21:47.21 | SpaceBass | :) |
| 21:47.39 | Assid | okay how do i take in what the user presses ? |
| 21:47.53 | SpaceBass | Assid: what do you mean? |
| 21:48.06 | SarahEmm | mew? |
| 21:48.19 | Assid | well.. i wanna do this.. i wanna call my asterisk box.. from my cell phone.. and then from there. i punch in the number i want.. and asterisk connects me |
| 21:48.41 | SarahEmm | you want DISA |
| 21:48.47 | SarahEmm | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+DISA |
| 21:49.29 | SpaceBass | and make sure to tell us all the DID and password :) |
| 21:50.32 | SarahEmm | heh |
| 21:50.38 | SarahEmm | SpaceBass: mew? |
| 21:50.46 | SpaceBass | very meow! |
| 21:50.51 | Wonka | "some of them want to use you" |
| 21:50.56 | Wonka | *sing* |
| 21:51.17 | *** join/#asterisk darylp (~daryl@63-208-162-60.digitalrealm.net) |
| 21:51.44 | SarahEmm | SpaceBass: meow mew merrow mrowwr mew mew mew. |
| 21:51.55 | SpaceBass | ;) |
| 21:52.09 | Wonka | *meow* =^x^= |
| 21:52.26 | SarahEmm | =^.^= |
| 21:52.37 | Wonka | :x) |
| 21:52.59 | Wonka | *sigh* |
| 21:53.03 | Wonka | sooo lonely |
| 21:53.27 | SpaceBass | lol |
| 21:53.33 | SarahEmm | Wonka: mewmew? |
| 21:53.51 | DarthClue | Wonka: come to cluecon. All the hot geek girls will be there. |
| 21:53.57 | Wonka | lol |
| 21:54.02 | SarahEmm | Wonka: awwww :( |
| 21:54.15 | SarahEmm | DarthClue: katty'll be there, who else? |
| 21:54.23 | SpaceBass | somehow I dont assoicate girls and cluecon |
| 21:54.27 | SpaceBass | but I could be wrong |
| 21:54.52 | DarthClue | SarahEmm: you, and I'll have to check the list to see who else, but i know there are a few. |
| 21:55.40 | SpaceBass | well... Im mistaken... thats 2 right there |
| 21:56.20 | DarthClue | ~cluecon |
| 21:56.20 | jbot | [cluecon] http://www.cluecon.com - Cluecon is an Open Source Telephony Expo and Developer's Conference geared towards open source Telephony enthusiasts and developers around the world. There will be a full schedule of expert speakers as well as many presentations and booths from various telephony related businesses. |
| 21:56.29 | Wonka | cluecon's in USA? too far away |
| 21:56.55 | SarahEmm | DarthClue: awwww :o) it would rock if i could go :) |
| 21:57.12 | SarahEmm | SpaceBass: why not? there'll be at least a few there :) |
| 21:57.23 | SpaceBass | where is it? |
| 21:57.28 | *** join/#asterisk foo8ar (~foo8ar@81.233.231.129) |
| 21:57.31 | DarthClue | Chicago |
| 21:57.40 | Wonka | before i go to some con, i'd rather invest the time to make chan_misdn work again... and chan_capi too |
| 21:57.48 | SpaceBass | I'm just a home user anyway... not sure I'd have much to contribute and anythin I saw would just make me want to spend money :) |
| 21:58.11 | SpaceBass | ohhh Chi town... got a hotel I love there... and some friends |
| 21:58.14 | j4m3s | is the website working for anyone else? |
| 21:58.16 | DarthClue | SpaceBass: we could always make you lug chairs around if you wanted to contribute. |
| 21:58.25 | SpaceBass | now that I can do |
| 21:58.34 | SarahEmm | j4m3s: which website? |
| 21:58.41 | SpaceBass | pretty good at tables as well |
| 21:58.41 | j4m3s | SarahEmm, cluecon |
| 21:58.51 | *** join/#asterisk moonaddict (~moonaddic@213.129.253.62) |
| 21:59.10 | SpaceBass | site is down |
| 21:59.12 | DarthClue | file: call brian. |
| 21:59.17 | j4m3s | maybe digium boycotted it... :) |
| 21:59.18 | j4m3s | oh nvm |
| 21:59.25 | SarahEmm | SpaceBass: tables? huh? |
| 21:59.30 | SpaceBass | http://www.starwoodhotels.com/whotels/search/hotel_detail.html?propertyID=2005 |
| 21:59.47 | moonaddict | my company's fax broke; had to quickfix the spandsp solution into our * server now: could one very KIND soul out there send a quick fax to +43 1 3337854 250 ? it's an Austrian landline btw. |
| 21:59.48 | *** part/#asterisk foo8ar (~foo8ar@81.233.231.129) |
| 21:59.48 | SpaceBass | give me an excuse to stay there again and visit some friends |
| 21:59.51 | moonaddict | please... |
| 22:00.08 | SpaceBass | moonaddict: i got an idea... google fax back |
| 22:00.26 | moonaddict | tried; there lots I have to register, even more payware... |
| 22:00.28 | SpaceBass | moonaddict: thats how I test mine :) find some free fax back |
| 22:00.31 | moonaddict | I did mention "kind" ? |
| 22:00.41 | SpaceBass | moonaddict: also not sure of any in oz |
| 22:00.48 | *** join/#asterisk arisjr (~arisjr@200.175.79.102.tbprof.gvt.net.br) |
| 22:01.40 | moonaddict | that's part of the problem. most of the free services do not cover europe, let alone tiiiny austria. |
| 22:02.04 | SpaceBass | i might could send it later |
| 22:02.15 | SpaceBass | about to eat now but will check back in 20 if your still around I'll send |
| 22:02.25 | SpaceBass | bbl |
| 22:03.35 | DarthClue | j4ms3: what all do ya want to know about cluecon? |
| 22:06.01 | file[laptop] | did the nameservers croak again? gah dang it |
| 22:06.20 | file[laptop] | DarthClue: his monitoring system probably contacted him |
| 22:06.35 | DarthClue | file: i don't know, i just know that people want to see it and it isn't there. |
| 22:09.30 | file[laptop] | DarthClue: I called him, he said they're not dead - he just checked them, but I say otherwise so he's gonna check/fix them and holler back later |
| 22:09.51 | DarthClue | file: the cluecon site won't load, other sites do, but cluecon doesn't. |
| 22:09.53 | SarahEmm | looks dead to me |
| 22:10.57 | SarahEmm | http://pastebin.ca/16879 |
| 22:12.06 | file[laptop] | I know which servers are down |
| 22:12.17 | file[laptop] | it's only 2 of them |
| 22:12.27 | file[laptop] | but it's the 2 that serve cluecon and asterlink and a few others |
| 22:12.44 | file[laptop] | tfe is fine for example... and we had this problem last month, couldn't track it down |
| 22:14.01 | file[laptop] | you do that. |
| 22:14.04 | file[laptop] | and the load balancer too |
| 22:15.27 | file[laptop] | oh good god faxmicro is down too |
| 22:15.43 | file[laptop] | it's 3 and 4 that are dead |
| 22:15.46 | file[laptop] | 1 and 2 still work |
| 22:15.55 | DarthClue | yes, i can see that. |
| 22:16.10 | DarthClue | do we know why they died? |
| 22:16.18 | file[laptop] | we haven't known for months :P |
| 22:16.48 | file[laptop] | I need intranet access... where's my password list |
| 22:18.05 | *** join/#asterisk Nugget (nugget@dazed.slacker.com) |
| 22:19.06 | Assid | man DISA rocks |
| 22:19.55 | file[laptop] | not every site is dead... |
| 22:20.52 | shido6 | disa.. |
| 22:21.25 | file[laptop] | only 4 or 5 are down |
| 22:21.29 | SarahEmm | Assid: careful with security. :P |
| 22:21.38 | Assid | yeah |
| 22:21.41 | Assid | i gotta add it |
| 22:21.48 | *** join/#asterisk Nugget (nugget@dazed.slacker.com) |
| 22:21.57 | SarahEmm | shido6: whyfor chuckle@DISA? |
| 22:21.59 | DarthClue | file: yeah, but it's the one that ones that matter that seem to be down. |
| 22:22.09 | *** join/#asterisk Jzalae (~sk@66-252-37-145.da.midmaine.com) |
| 22:22.24 | file[laptop] | uh well, hrm |
| 22:23.33 | file[laptop] | we should sacrifice a chicken |
| 22:24.36 | DarthClue | or maybe put the sites that matter on 1 and 2 and the sites that can be down without requiring a chicken sacrifice to get back up on 3 and 4 |
| 22:25.12 | SarahEmm | or put sites on 1 and 3 or 2 and 4 |
| 22:25.15 | SarahEmm | not 1 and 2 or 3 and 4 |
| 22:26.10 | *** join/#asterisk florinm (~florin@host-84-9-255-27.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 22:26.11 | DarthClue | how bout putting sites on 1, 2, 3, and 4 so that we have full load balancing and redundancy. |
| 22:26.15 | florinm | hi boys |
| 22:26.22 | florinm | got a we problem |
| 22:26.24 | florinm | wee |
| 22:26.37 | file | well it is behind a load balancer... |
| 22:26.44 | florinm | seems the TDM doesn't signal out CID |
| 22:26.59 | florinm | on the FXS port (on my analog phone) |
| 22:27.12 | florinm | any idea why ? |
| 22:27.36 | florinm | the analog phone supports CID |
| 22:27.49 | *** join/#asterisk syle (~blah@wnpgmb06dc1-165-246.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 22:29.18 | shido6 | but does the tdm card |
| 22:29.29 | shido6 | dum dum dummmmm |
| 22:30.30 | florinm | tdm400 doesn support cid ? |
| 22:31.25 | Nugget | are you asking or telling? |
| 22:31.41 | Nugget | it works on mine. |
| 22:31.58 | florinm | how ?? |
| 22:32.05 | Nugget | what do you mean "how"? |
| 22:32.19 | florinm | what u have in zaptel ? |
| 22:32.26 | Nugget | nothing special. |
| 22:32.30 | florinm | here seems is not working :( |
| 22:32.43 | SarahEmm | what countr yare you in florinm? |
| 22:32.50 | florinm | UK |
| 22:33.01 | florinm | is a philips phone |
| 22:33.17 | florinm | so the CID is there as is recorded in CDR |
| 22:33.21 | Nugget | wow, you sure speak shitty english for someone in an english-speaking country. :) |
| 22:33.27 | SarahEmm | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-September/061416.html |
| 22:33.29 | florinm | I'm romanian ;) |
| 22:33.32 | Nugget | I was figuring you were belgian or something :) |
| 22:33.34 | Nugget | ah :) |
| 22:33.35 | SarahEmm | ^-- look there florinm |
| 22:33.40 | florinm | ta |
| 22:34.07 | florinm | when u speak romanian as good as my english then u can comment about my english ;) |
| 22:34.13 | Assid | hrmm |
| 22:34.36 | Assid | i tried DISA(code|default) and it doesnt work |
| 22:34.41 | *** join/#asterisk Romik_ (~romik@1.fix.netvision.net.il) |
| 22:34.50 | Assid | if i use no-password it works |
| 22:34.57 | Assid | code = 1234 |
| 22:35.31 | Romik_ | i try to login as agent and want to hear music - asterisk prints - -- Started music on hold, class 'default', on IAX2/traffic@66.246.122.72:4569/3 but i do not hear any music |
| 22:36.49 | shido6 | hrmmm... |
| 22:36.52 | shido6 | passports |
| 22:38.19 | florinm | linux:/etc/asterisk # Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe |
| 22:38.30 | florinm | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.31 | *** join/#asterisk jonathh1 (~asd@host-84-9-113-48.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 22:38.35 | jonathh1 | Hello one and all |
| 22:39.23 | jonathh1 | anyone here maintaining.. or better still has.. set up asterisk in a commercial environment? if so.. how many handsets/employees? |
| 22:40.21 | Romik_ | jonathh1: we have 100 desks in the company with asterisk |
| 22:40.46 | jonathh1 | wow |
| 22:40.49 | jonathh1 | excellent guys |
| 22:41.00 | jonathh1 | i am looking to start setting it up.. small scale to start with |
| 22:41.09 | jonathh1 | and was getting worried about 30~ ish |
| 22:41.31 | jonathh1 | starting at around 10.. to get a system nailed now. |
| 22:41.52 | syle | what you using for channel banks to support that many people? |
| 22:41.58 | Romik_ | i do not hear music on hold - somebody can advice me? |
| 22:42.10 | jonathh1 | no.. i have no channel bank experience |
| 22:42.11 | Romik_ | syle: we use shitty Zhone cb |
| 22:42.33 | *** join/#asterisk SpaceBass (~sp@c-24-125-184-203.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 22:42.33 | jonathh1 | initailly i will approach start-ups for 5~10 peeps on 1~4 standard pstns |
| 22:42.58 | DarthClue | jonathn1: you using IP phones for the desk extensions? |
| 22:42.59 | SpaceBass | back |
| 22:43.06 | jonathh1 | yes |
| 22:43.08 | jonathh1 | probalby cisco |
| 22:43.18 | jonathh1 | as they seem to be the only GOOD reliable phones |
| 22:43.19 | florinm | mmm |
| 22:43.22 | florinm | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.22 | florinm | Warning, flexibel rate not heavily tested! |
| 22:43.22 | florinm | linux:/etc/asterisk # Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe |
| 22:43.34 | florinm | i can't start asterisk anymore :( |
| 22:43.40 | DarthClue | Cisco is good and expensive, polycom is good and less expensive. |
| 22:43.43 | SarahEmm | florinm: run it with -vvvvvvvvvvv |
| 22:43.51 | jonathh1 | oh yeah? |
| 22:43.53 | florinm | with this i run it |
| 22:44.00 | jonathh1 | my expereince is limited to grandstream |
| 22:44.02 | SarahEmm | oh. |
| 22:44.05 | SarahEmm | florinm: nothing in any logs? |
| 22:44.08 | jonathh1 | and i cant say i'd be happy rolling them out |
| 22:44.11 | jas_williams | florinm what have you broken now :) |
| 22:44.21 | florinm | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.21 | florinm | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.26 | florinm | linux:/etc/asterisk # Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe |
| 22:44.31 | DarthClue | polycom ip500 or ip600 are good and run about 200 or 300 respectively, sometimes less. |
| 22:44.46 | jonathh1 | dollars? |
| 22:45.00 | DarthClue | yes, USD. |
| 22:45.23 | jas_williams | florinm paste zapata.conf and zapata_additional.conf to pastebin.ca for me to look at |
| 22:47.00 | *** join/#asterisk MikeJ[Laptop] (~ircatjerr@pcp09940120pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 22:47.24 | florinm | http://pastebin.ca/16883 |
| 22:47.28 | syle | whats a cheap way to get tons of fxs ports |
| 22:47.28 | florinm | this is aditional |
| 22:47.45 | *** join/#asterisk tld (~tld@195.84-48-78.nextgentel.com) |
| 22:48.05 | SarahEmm | syle: define 'tons' |
| 22:48.12 | florinm | http://pastebin.ca/16884 |
| 22:48.15 | SpaceBass | ebay? |
| 22:48.24 | blitzrage | Channel bank off ebay and a T100P |
| 22:48.31 | file | yay blitzrage |
| 22:48.32 | key2 | is there any IAX softphone for linux ? |
| 22:48.32 | florinm | and this is zapata.conf |
| 22:48.36 | SarahEmm | syle: define 'cheap' and 'tons' ;) |
| 22:48.41 | SpaceBass | iaxcomm |
| 22:48.49 | heath__ | key2: kiax is da bizzomb |
| 22:49.09 | syle | like 10-20 ports |
| 22:49.21 | blitzrage | syle: channel bank off ebay and T100P |
| 22:49.23 | *** join/#asterisk iq (~IQ@63-230-45-36.omah.qwest.net) |
| 22:49.35 | SarahEmm | syle: and 'cheap'? ;) channel bank and a T100p |
| 22:49.38 | blitzrage | I like the Adtran TA750's |
| 22:49.50 | blitzrage | or Adit 600's |
| 22:50.10 | syle | NOTE:The T100P has been replaced by the TE110P and is no longer for sale. If you purchase this card you will receive the new TE110P - T1/E1 Capable PCI Card |
| 22:50.32 | SarahEmm | okay, TE110P heh |
| 22:50.35 | *** join/#asterisk virterm (~virterm@204.225.113.73) |
| 22:50.40 | key2 | heath__? is there any that would compile under netbsd ? |
| 22:50.55 | jas_williams | florinm you seem to define channel 1 twice ? |
| 22:50.57 | SarahEmm | meeeep! |
| 22:50.59 | SarahEmm | *is tickled* |
| 22:51.02 | *** join/#asterisk jonathh (~asd@host-84-9-113-226.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 22:51.10 | jonathh | flipping technology. |
| 22:51.12 | jonathh | what i miss? |
| 22:51.14 | jonathh | what i'd like to know is how one gets channel bank exposure.. in the world.. as a start up i cant afford to just get one at home and play with it |
| 22:51.16 | blitzrage | everything |
| 22:51.17 | heath__ | key2, i think kiax should, if not, the try mozphone, only problem with mozphone is that i can only get it to work as root |
| 22:51.23 | syle | so you plug these adtran's into the TE100P and then you get tons of zap channels? |
| 22:51.32 | blitzrage | jonathh: thats how you do it - they aren't very expensive off ebay |
| 22:51.38 | file | syle: 23 |
| 22:51.39 | jas_williams | florinm once in zapata.conf then again in zapata_additional.conf |
| 22:51.41 | florinm | is the stupid GUI |
| 22:51.50 | SpaceBass | key2: did you look at iaxcomm |
| 22:51.53 | SarahEmm | blitzrage: aren't T1 cards expensive hto? |
| 22:51.58 | florinm | AMP |
| 22:52.02 | blitzrage | SarahEmm: yah... I suppose so :) |
| 22:52.14 | jonathh | what about the costs from say.. BT to have an isdn line |
| 22:52.19 | jas_williams | florinm Don't use amp then or use only amp |
| 22:52.26 | jas_williams | not both |
| 22:52.41 | florinm | i removed it from zapata.conf |
| 22:52.43 | heath__ | key2: a bad idea, but almost surefire way is to use the * console as a softphone with some kind of Xdialog based gui scheme; i've done it with dialog |
| 22:53.01 | blitzrage | peas! |
| 22:53.03 | jas_williams | florinm try again do you still get the error |
| 22:53.06 | SarahEmm | bibi blitzrage |
| 22:53.11 | DarthClue | blitrage: take more pictures! |
| 22:53.13 | florinm | yep :( |
| 22:53.27 | blitzrage | sarah_not_here: lates |
| 22:53.34 | blitzrage | DarthClue: thats the plan :D |
| 22:53.57 | jas_williams | jonathh What type of BT line ? |
| 22:54.01 | blitzrage | DarthClue: took a bunch on the weekend at my buddies house |
| 22:54.12 | jonathh | well at the moment.. i have a standard POTS line |
| 22:54.22 | jonathh | but i'd like ot much around with a digital line.. |
| 22:54.31 | jonathh | and i dont know waht it costs.. but i suspect it is alot! |
| 22:54.53 | SpaceBass | can usually get a full T1 for about $400 / month |
| 22:55.05 | jonathh | how many lines does that support? |
| 22:55.13 | SpaceBass | well, thats for data... I dont know about voice... |
| 22:55.19 | jonathh | ah ok |
| 22:55.28 | SpaceBass | jonathh: I think its 24 channels |
| 22:55.31 | jonathh | as a stard up.. £200 per month.. is alot |
| 22:55.43 | jonathh | i'd like to get maybe 5 digital lines working.. |
| 22:55.51 | *** join/#asterisk lowridese (~lowridese@pcp0010629822pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net) |
| 22:55.51 | jas_williams | jonathh1 OK home highway for BRI will set you back 120.00 a quater or PRI 8 channels 160.00 a month |
| 22:56.01 | lowridese | Hello all |
| 22:56.09 | SpaceBass | jonathh: have you thought about a voip provider? |
| 22:56.20 | *** join/#asterisk znoG (~gs@200.115.216.109) |
| 22:56.25 | Assid | SpaceBass: are u using DISA? |
| 22:56.25 | jas_williams | jonathh 8 is the minimum number of pri channels BT will se;; |
| 22:56.33 | Assid | i cant manage to gett he passcode working |
| 22:56.41 | lowridese | Is there anyone on here that may be able to assist me in setting up a Broadvoice Incoming connection? |
| 22:56.52 | SpaceBass | lowridese: whats the problem? |
| 22:57.19 | *** join/#asterisk jonathh2 (~asd@host-84-9-112-27.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 22:57.24 | jonathh2 | ARGH |
| 22:57.27 | jonathh2 | my modem is pants.. |
| 22:57.29 | jonathh2 | what i miuss? |
| 22:57.33 | jonathh2 | as a stard up.. £200 per month.. is alot |
| 22:57.36 | jonathh2 | i'd like to get maybe 5 digital lines working.. |
| 22:57.36 | lowridese | I have been trying for days now to get setup and registered with my SIP and the closest i got today was they saw my box and my IP but said i have a 401 error in authentication |
| 22:57.39 | jonathh2 | before i could confidently sell a service based on it |
| 22:58.07 | SpaceBass | lowridese: i'll pastebin my conf |
| 22:58.18 | lowridese | I am not very familiar yet with asterisk and all the required fields and setups of trunks |
| 22:59.09 | jonathh2 | is there a moderator/admin dude in here? that can terminate jonathh and jonathh1? as my connection has died twice.. and they are both me!! |
| 22:59.22 | SpaceBass | http://pastebin.ca/16886 |
| 22:59.38 | SpaceBass | lowridese: using amp or manually configuring |
| 22:59.43 | Assid | shido6? |
| 23:00.03 | lowridese | using AMP since i am just starting out. also wasnt sure if i was setting my /etc/hosts file properly |
| 23:00.11 | SpaceBass | amp is fine... |
| 23:00.22 | SpaceBass | I never did the hosts thing... probably should |
| 23:00.35 | SpaceBass | so in amp you have incoming, outgoing and register string |
| 23:00.53 | SpaceBass | lowridese: the thing I pastebined was my incoming |
| 23:01.02 | SpaceBass | oops, was outgoing |
| 23:01.06 | lowridese | ok let me compare |
| 23:01.13 | Assid | anyone here has a nufone account? |
| 23:01.38 | SpaceBass | here is my incoming http://pastebin.ca/16887 |
| 23:02.19 | SpaceBass | my register string: <number>@sip.broadvoice.<secret>:<number>@sip.broadvoice.com/<number> |
| 23:02.31 | SpaceBass | never used nufone |
| 23:02.39 | *** join/#asterisk Morex (~blah@host81-157-123-89.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:02.43 | Morex | Hello all |
| 23:03.01 | Morex | Anybody know if there's a way to play ringing during a call queue, instead of music on hold? |
| 23:03.10 | Morex | I want my callers to think they're about to be answered... |
| 23:03.17 | florinm | for uk is ok : Registered channel 1, FXO Kewlstart signalling |
| 23:03.17 | florinm | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.49 | lowridese | spacebass: this is my current setup can you see if you see anything wrong with it |
| 23:03.56 | *** join/#asterisk Wi_Fi (~OUT@c-24-127-12-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:04.01 | SpaceBass | lowridese: one other thing... behind a NAT? |
| 23:04.02 | *** join/#asterisk bjohnson (~bjohnson@jecinc.tor.istop.com) |
| 23:04.52 | lowridese | yes i am http://pastebin.ca/16889 |
| 23:04.52 | SpaceBass | Assid: get a broadvoice byod lite account |
| 23:05.04 | bjohnson | can someone check http://amdsb.ca for me. I think it's down |
| 23:05.23 | file[laptop] | works for me |
| 23:05.25 | SpaceBass | lowridese: make sure to forward tcp 5060 and udp 10,000 - 20,000 |
| 23:05.27 | lowridese | spacebass: all i get when i dial in since i am not registered is a busy signal |
| 23:05.41 | SpaceBass | yeah |
| 23:05.44 | jonathh2 | WFM(UK) slow tho |
| 23:05.56 | florinm | so what to use ? |
| 23:06.06 | lowridese | i have a dlink router and i cant say if it is udp or tcp but have those ports pointing to my * box |
| 23:06.17 | SpaceBass | hummm should work |
| 23:06.35 | lowridese | when i call they say it never actually has registered with them. i am baffled |
| 23:06.35 | SpaceBass | lowridese: which section is that, incoming or outgoing? |
| 23:06.42 | SpaceBass | lowridese: whats your register string look like? |
| 23:06.45 | tzafrir | 5060 should be udp |
| 23:06.56 | SpaceBass | tzafrir: is it? |
| 23:07.05 | lowridese | incoming i am using voipjet for outgoing its not setup yet though |
| 23:07.08 | tzafrir | SpaceBass, sure. |
| 23:07.13 | tzafrir | netstat -lnup |
| 23:07.41 | tzafrir | As for 10000-20000: if the range is too much for you, edit /etc/asterisk/rtp.conf |
| 23:07.44 | SpaceBass | lowridese: I think you have to set up the incoming and outgoing sections for it to work, you just use outbound routing to make calls go through voipjet |
| 23:07.47 | Assid | damn |
| 23:07.52 | Assid | i cant register onto the nufone net |
| 23:08.03 | Assid | SpaceBass: i just bought this |
| 23:08.06 | Assid | for trying it out |
| 23:08.08 | SpaceBass | tzafrir: i dont even think you have to forward the rtp stuff |
| 23:08.10 | Assid | not that much usage |
| 23:08.10 | lowridese | spacebass: this is my register string 717*******@sip.broadvoice.com:(password):717*******@sip.broadvoice.com/101 |
| 23:08.27 | SpaceBass | why the /101? is that what you are using for DID routing? |
| 23:08.29 | *** join/#asterisk DA-MAN (~DA-MAN@66-215-92-29.pas-eres.charterpipeline.net) |
| 23:08.46 | tzafrir | SpaceBass, what exactly do you try to connect? |
| 23:08.49 | lowridese | all the posts i read say to set an extension to ring but i thought the incoming section sets that |
| 23:09.07 | tzafrir | asterisk behind NAT as a sip client only? |
| 23:09.09 | SpaceBass | tzafrir: dont follow the question |
| 23:09.34 | SpaceBass | lowridese: get rid of the /101... if you want to you can add /<your number> |
| 23:10.06 | Assid | damn |
| 23:10.07 | Morex | Hmm I guess nobody knows. |
| 23:10.10 | Assid | screwed.. |
| 23:10.13 | Assid | not working:( |
| 23:10.35 | bjohnson | file: thanx |
| 23:10.59 | bjohnson | I get connection refused |
| 23:11.24 | SpaceBass | lowridese: your incoming settings look good |
| 23:11.24 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (~roy@179.80-203-29.nextgentel.com) |
| 23:11.33 | SpaceBass | lowridese: you need to set up the outgoing too |
| 23:11.39 | lowridese | spacebass: you havent edited your /etc/hosts? |
| 23:11.42 | SpaceBass | Assid: whats the issue? |
| 23:11.46 | SpaceBass | lowridese: now, I need to |
| 23:11.50 | jonathh2 | and i correct in the assumption tht the peeps here run astersik on UPS rigs? |
| 23:11.55 | jonathh2 | ^am |
| 23:11.57 | SpaceBass | lowridese: i havent had a bandwitdh problem |
| 23:12.07 | Assid | cant register |
| 23:12.13 | SpaceBass | iax? |
| 23:12.15 | Assid | yeah |
| 23:12.18 | Assid | nufone |
| 23:12.21 | SpaceBass | jonathh2: i dont... need to get a ups |
| 23:12.34 | jonathh2 | you dont.. but you should you mean? |
| 23:12.35 | lowridese | so you have to have inbound and outbound setup? even if using two different suppliers? |
| 23:12.38 | SpaceBass | Assid: bv byodlite account is only $5 |
| 23:12.44 | SpaceBass | lowridese: yep |
| 23:13.12 | Assid | i already bought this man |
| 23:13.16 | Assid | i just did |
| 23:13.16 | SpaceBass | lowridese: in AMP you'll have two different trunks, one for BV and one for voipjet... each has to have incoming/outgoing |
| 23:13.21 | Assid | besides.. |
| 23:13.28 | Assid | im gonna use maybe 10$ in 2-3 months |
| 23:13.34 | Assid | since its mostly for testing |
| 23:13.42 | bjohnson | file: what IP do you get for amdsb.ca? I can't dig one |
| 23:13.44 | Assid | no commitment |
| 23:13.57 | lowridese | for my bv if i dont use outgoing should anything be in there? even the default? |
| 23:14.14 | SpaceBass | 206.130.199.253 |
| 23:14.16 | file[laptop] | 206.130.199.253 |
| 23:14.25 | jonathh2 | this is for peeps who use/setup asterisk in high demand commercial environs.. any special setups to make * more robust? like installing on read-only partitions etc? |
| 23:14.27 | Assid | hrmm.. is that $5 till i finish it or per month? |
| 23:14.53 | Assid | i cant get the DISA to work either |
| 23:14.53 | SpaceBass | $5/month |
| 23:15.00 | Assid | how many mins? |
| 23:15.06 | SpaceBass | Assid: I just dont know anything about nufone to help |
| 23:15.06 | Assid | in $5 |
| 23:15.25 | SpaceBass | lowridese: even if you aren't using BV for outgoing, you need the outgoing section filled in |
| 23:15.34 | Assid | how many minutes does BV give in $5 ? |
| 23:15.36 | SpaceBass | Assid: unlimied incoming, 100 outgoing |
| 23:16.02 | SpaceBass | i the $5 for my call waiting... call foward on busy from pstn |
| 23:16.10 | Assid | 0.2 cents a minute |
| 23:16.13 | Assid | not bad |
| 23:16.14 | SpaceBass | s/i the/i use the |
| 23:16.33 | bjohnson | hmm .. I wonder why I still can't connect. Maybe I'll try nmap |
| 23:16.56 | Assid | wait is that 0.5 or 0.2 ? |
| 23:16.57 | SpaceBass | bjohnson: what do you get when you dig? |
| 23:16.59 | lowridese | ok now i am lost :) so empty doesnt work? have any ideas what to put there, sorry i feel like such a newb |
| 23:17.12 | jmann | I am having just the reverse issue |
| 23:17.18 | jmann | still |
| 23:17.24 | SpaceBass | lowridese: no prob... I'm pretty much a newbie too |
| 23:17.29 | bjohnson | SpaceBass: I'm going to check my firewall rules |
| 23:17.41 | Assid | 5 cents a minute.. |
| 23:17.41 | SpaceBass | bjohnson: sounds like dns issues |
| 23:17.42 | Assid | hrmm |
| 23:17.50 | lowridese | but yet im an IT professional haha go figure....this stuff just is so interesting |
| 23:18.11 | Assid | my disa doesnt wanna work |
| 23:18.20 | SpaceBass | lowridese: http://pastebin.ca/16890 |
| 23:18.29 | jmann | Quick question can you put a dns name for the externip= option |
| 23:18.44 | jmann | in the sip.conf file |
| 23:19.13 | SpaceBass | so I have to play with things like * in my free time to keep my geek levels up |
| 23:19.15 | bjohnson | nmaping or pinging it says packet filtered |
| 23:19.19 | bjohnson | what does that mean? |
| 23:19.29 | bjohnson | my iptables is killing it? |
| 23:19.43 | SpaceBass | bjohnson: maybe, but even sill, dig should get a result back |
| 23:19.48 | SpaceBass | bjohnson: what firewall |
| 23:19.49 | SpaceBass | ? |
| 23:20.02 | SpaceBass | Assid: whats your DISA extension look like? |
| 23:20.03 | bjohnson | I can dig now |
| 23:20.07 | SpaceBass | cool |
| 23:20.10 | bjohnson | using iptables on ipcop |
| 23:20.20 | SpaceBass | i use ipcop too |
| 23:20.28 | bjohnson | I think dig problem before might have been typo .. working in 4 consoles is getting me confused |
| 23:20.35 | SpaceBass | been looking ad m0n0wall |
| 23:20.39 | bjohnson | but still can't connect via browser |
| 23:20.48 | *** join/#asterisk tld (~tld@195.84-48-78.nextgentel.com) |
| 23:20.51 | bjohnson | and still can't nmap or ping |
| 23:20.55 | SpaceBass | bjohnson: now sure *why* it would be filtered... hummmm |
| 23:21.02 | bjohnson | I wonder if one of my msn blockers is blocking it |
| 23:21.08 | Assid | exten => 9,1,DISA(01234|default) |
| 23:21.20 | Assid | if i use no-passowrd.. it works fine |
| 23:21.40 | SpaceBass | Assid: PEBCAK |
| 23:21.43 | SpaceBass | :) |
| 23:21.58 | bjohnson | hmm. nope |
| 23:21.59 | Assid | huh? |
| 23:22.01 | SpaceBass | try hitting 9 then when you hear the dialtone type 01234# |
| 23:22.07 | SpaceBass | then you'll get the dialtone again |
| 23:22.13 | bjohnson | strange. it's the wife's webmail |
| 23:22.26 | Assid | hangup |
| 23:22.36 | SpaceBass | Assid: what displays on the CLI? |
| 23:22.43 | SpaceBass | lowridese: any luck? |
| 23:22.52 | bjohnson | gonna have to check into this later |
| 23:23.58 | Assid | yeah it works |
| 23:23.58 | Assid | sorry |
| 23:23.58 | Assid | oooohoo |
| 23:24.35 | lowridese | spacebass: does it matter that i still left the zap trunk setup? |
| 23:24.47 | SpaceBass | nope |
| 23:24.48 | SpaceBass | shouldnt |
| 23:24.57 | SpaceBass | do you have a zap trunk? |
| 23:26.13 | lowridese | no |
| 23:26.33 | SpaceBass | can delete it then |
| 23:26.52 | lowridese | wonder if it is my router then, but it couldnt be if they can see my and my inner IP address |
| 23:27.23 | SpaceBass | could be a router issue... maybe the dlink doesnt foward udp |
| 23:27.32 | SpaceBass | lowridese: try putting it in the DMZ |
| 23:28.14 | lowridese | it is |
| 23:28.14 | SpaceBass | then shouldnt be a firewall issue at all ! |
| 23:28.14 | SpaceBass | :) |
| 23:28.34 | Assid | bah |
| 23:28.39 | Assid | anwyasy |
| 23:28.42 | lowridese | keeps saying 0 active sip channels...before at least i was getting 1 active but none now |
| 23:28.42 | Assid | i think i better head to bed |
| 23:28.44 | Assid | 5 am |
| 23:28.48 | Assid | thanks SpaceBass |
| 23:28.56 | SpaceBass | sure... good luck |
| 23:29.20 | SpaceBass | lowridese: and you fixed the register string? |
| 23:29.36 | lowridese | let me send you my setup again if you dont mind and see what you think |
| 23:29.49 | SpaceBass | not at all |
| 23:30.26 | *** join/#asterisk IQ_ (~IQ@63-230-45-36.omah.qwest.net) |
| 23:31.04 | SpaceBass | lowridese: http://geekgazette.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=26 |
| 23:31.07 | SpaceBass | that might help |
| 23:32.16 | lowridese | this is how i think i had it setup before when they were at least seeing me and how it is setup now with your outgoing added http://pastebin.ca/16891 |
| 23:32.35 | lowridese | i can look on geekgazette i was on their before with their setup. i have no idea why i am having so many issues |
| 23:33.24 | SpaceBass | me either... looks good |
| 23:33.25 | *** join/#asterisk JunK-Y (~junky@69.156.216.243) |
| 23:33.45 | SpaceBass | not sure about the deney=0.0.0 ... line... deney is used to deney codecs not ips |
| 23:33.51 | lowridese | they told me they are not sure, look on the posts dave said haha |
| 23:33.54 | SpaceBass | and the permit line is used for the same thing |
| 23:33.58 | lowridese | ok |
| 23:34.03 | lowridese | so take them out? |
| 23:34.05 | SpaceBass | lowridese: those two lines may be problematic |
| 23:34.06 | SpaceBass | yeah |
| 23:34.49 | file[laptop] | disallow and allow are for codecs |
| 23:34.51 | file[laptop] | not deny and permit |
| 23:34.54 | jonathh2 | this is for peeps who use/setup asterisk in high demand commercial environs.. any special setups to make * more robust? like installing on read-only partitions etc? |
| 23:35.01 | file[laptop] | deny and permit are to only permit certain IPs to use the account |
| 23:35.15 | SpaceBass | file[laptop]: d'oh I knew that.... lowridese dont listen to me |
| 23:35.26 | lowridese | if i had to setup an outgoing i dont have to setup an outgoing route? |
| 23:36.01 | SpaceBass | you dont have to set up a route |
| 23:36.17 | SpaceBass | youd only need a route if you were going to make outgoing calls |
| 23:36.59 | lowridese | anyone know of any other VOIP provider easier to setup haha |
| 23:37.19 | SpaceBass | lol |
| 23:37.33 | SpaceBass | bv is usually fairly easy... but anything with IAX is easier probably |
| 23:37.55 | SpaceBass | lowridese: try removing the lines from /etc/hosts that you added |
| 23:37.58 | DarthClue | asterlink is very easy to setup. |
| 23:39.16 | file[laptop] | I should reset my ADSL modem |
| 23:40.06 | lowridese | so i shouldnt need the (IP) sip.broadvoice.com in my /etc/hosts? there is also a 127.0.0.1 asterisk1 asterisklocalhost in there also |
| 23:41.05 | SpaceBass | keep the localhost... the 127 i there |
| 23:41.06 | jmann | you need to leave that in your ect/hosts file |
| 23:41.20 | SpaceBass | remove the broadvoice stuff... just for now |
| 23:42.30 | SpaceBass | ohhhh fun! novell released evolution for os x |
| 23:43.09 | lowridese | this is damn near impossible to get working haha |
| 23:43.21 | SpaceBass | still no luck? |
| 23:43.26 | lowridese | im going to work at mcdonalds again like 15 years ago haha |
| 23:43.43 | SpaceBass | ; |
| 23:43.46 | SpaceBass | :) |
| 23:43.55 | *** join/#asterisk file (~jcolp@mctn1-3634.nb.aliant.net) |
| 23:44.29 | lowridese | took out bv stuff in /etc/hosts and rebooting |
| 23:46.17 | *** join/#asterisk SwK (yhrbth@12-219-156-206.client.mchsi.com) |
| 23:49.34 | lowridese | its so strange one second i go from 1 SIP channel active to 2 active to 0 active |
| 23:50.11 | *** join/#asterisk doughecka_ (~Miranda@doughecka.user) |
| 23:50.27 | SpaceBass | hummm |
| 23:50.41 | SpaceBass | sounds like maybe they are disconnecting you on their end |
| 23:51.35 | infinity1 | my zap channel is returning BUSY instead of CHANUNAVAIL ...any idea why? |
| 23:51.44 | lowridese | i give up .....!! :) does anyone know of any other VOIP provider seriously that does not cost alot but is efficient? |
| 23:52.22 | SpaceBass | voipjet or asterlink |
| 23:52.48 | lowridese | i am using voipjet for outgoing when i get it setup and i couldnt find any prices on asterlink |
| 23:53.03 | lowridese | i just like the whole free incoming with BV |
| 23:53.04 | file | it's 2 cents a minute to the US and Canada |
| 23:53.12 | SpaceBass | why not use voipjet for incoming too |
| 23:53.15 | SpaceBass | ahhhh |
| 23:53.20 | file | we don't do international |
| 23:53.22 | SpaceBass | yeah, free incoming is nice wiht bv |
| 23:54.05 | lowridese | i about to call and say hey look can we figure this out why i keep dropping or just cancel |
| 23:54.51 | SpaceBass | yeah |
| 23:55.19 | SpaceBass | they gave me the aol im screen name of someone they said could help... and he did |
| 23:55.20 | infinity1 | do i need to do anything special to use CHANUNAVAIL? |
| 23:58.14 | infinity1 | does anyone see a typo ? exten => s,22,GotoIf($[${DIALSTATUS} = CHANUNAVAIL]?23:24) |
