| 00:01.32 | tzanger | JerJer: the product of energy and time? |
| 00:03.08 | JerJer | he's gonna be awful bored then |
| 00:06.31 | *** part/#asterisk bkw__ (n=brian@adsl-69-155-21-122.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net) |
| 00:11.01 | pr0m | anyone here using broadvoice? |
| 00:11.04 | opus_ | is there a way i can a macro goto outside of itself, like or return a variable |
| 00:11.18 | pr0m | opus_: declare a global variable |
| 00:11.44 | opus_ | hmmm.. but what if i need the access the variable at the same time |
| 00:12.02 | pr0m | can't access what isn't assigned. |
| 00:12.04 | anonobomber | pr0m: ive been considering broadvoice |
| 00:12.11 | opus_ | i need basically a macro that gotoiftime and i will get the time from the asterisk database. |
| 00:12.25 | opus_ | but i want to use the macro for all sorts of things |
| 00:12.29 | pr0m | ananobomber: me too. i'm with voicepluse currently. it's not bad. |
| 00:13.01 | opus_ | broadvoice goes down almost every week. once a day somebody comes in here asking if anybody else is down |
| 00:13.04 | anonobomber | pr0m: 19.95 / month with unlimited calls to china is whats got me interested |
| 00:13.23 | pr0m | opus_: hmmm. |
| 00:13.38 | opus_ | i had problems canceling my account |
| 00:14.17 | opus_ | in fact i wouldn't be surprised if i saw them try to charge mea gain |
| 00:14.26 | opus_ | my cc company has them blocked.. |
| 00:14.34 | opus_ | theres more then one way to cancel accounts. :) |
| 00:14.34 | anonobomber | haha |
| 00:14.39 | nick125 | LOL |
| 00:15.58 | anonobomber | pr0m: how is voicepulse working out? |
| 00:16.13 | *** join/#asterisk tc0nn (n=tec@spyglass.timsnet.com) |
| 00:16.38 | pr0m | it works pretty well. it's a charge per min deal plus $11 for an incoming phone #. |
| 00:16.45 | pr0m | connect.voicepulse.com |
| 00:17.07 | anonobomber | ouch they charge 7 cents / minute for calls to Beijing |
| 00:17.10 | pr0m | using asterisk with an iax2 connection to voicepulse servers. |
| 00:17.21 | pr0m | like i call beijing. |
| 00:18.03 | tzanger | anonobomber: so go do some research, jeez |
| 00:18.15 | pr0m | i was hoping to consolidate my 1800 and voip services. |
| 00:18.23 | opus_ | voicepulse doesn't have DID's in my area. |
| 00:18.59 | pr0m | you can get an 800 number instead. then point it to whatever # you want. especially helpful if you move alot like me. |
| 00:19.36 | opus_ | hahah news.google.com has a story from cryptome.org |
| 00:19.52 | tzanger | pr0m: yeah and then pay to have people call you. Nah. |
| 00:21.19 | *** join/#asterisk bkw__ (n=brian@adsl-69-155-21-122.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net) |
| 00:21.19 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o bkw__] by ChanServ |
| 00:21.34 | adelas | hey can someone take a look at my part of my log |
| 00:21.34 | adelas | http://mast3rdukill.sytes.net/callerrors.txt |
| 00:21.42 | adelas | my problem is i can't call in |
| 00:21.48 | adelas | but i can call out |
| 00:22.08 | adelas | i'm not sure if its because of my incoming setting or my DID routes |
| 00:22.23 | cybersword | hi, i have a problem when external users try to log into my asterisk server |
| 00:22.39 | cybersword | in the debug say forbidden |
| 00:23.30 | adelas | can anyone help me in my situation? |
| 00:23.53 | tc0nn | Are your running a fw or iptables? |
| 00:24.00 | adelas | the contact: <sip:sip@10.11.12.22> i can change it to contact: <sip:anythingiwatn@ |
| 00:24.01 | opus_ | cybersword whoah |
| 00:24.09 | adelas | tc0nn wat do u mean? |
| 00:24.15 | adelas | i'm running a mediatrix gateway |
| 00:24.19 | opus_ | cybersword when did you notice it |
| 00:24.47 | adelas | tc0nn would do u mean by fw, or iptables? |
| 00:25.00 | anonobomber | adelas: firewall |
| 00:25.06 | adelas | o |
| 00:25.07 | adelas | no |
| 00:25.13 | adelas | theres no firewall, its a local netowrk |
| 00:25.19 | opus_ | iptables -I OUTPUT --ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -j REJECT |
| 00:25.30 | adelas | theres no firewall interfereing |
| 00:25.43 | tc0nn | NAT? |
| 00:25.56 | adelas | umm.. its local network so there should be no nat? |
| 00:26.02 | adelas | well, i am runing nat |
| 00:26.18 | tc0nn | The calls come in on POTS to the gateway then ? |
| 00:26.20 | adelas | but the medatrix ip and asterisk box has the same local ip style |
| 00:26.28 | adelas | gateway then to asterisk |
| 00:27.03 | tc0nn | Network is /25 or lower, so .101 and .22 are in the same subnet (no router/gateway/hop in between) |
| 00:27.05 | tc0nn | ? |
| 00:27.18 | adelas | yea |
| 00:27.28 | adelas | the .101 is the medatrix ip, and .22 is asterisk box |
| 00:27.47 | adelas | connected via hub |
| 00:28.15 | *** join/#asterisk Defraz (n=t0tal@24-119-12-238.cpe.cableone.net) |
| 00:28.55 | adelas | i have a cisco phone setup at extention 200 also |
| 00:29.12 | adelas | hub is connecting main comp, asterisk box, medatrix and cisco phones |
| 00:29.33 | adelas | should be no NAT takin place |
| 00:30.10 | adelas | my incoming setting for the trunk is |
| 00:30.27 | adelas | context=from-pstn host=10.11.12.101 secret=200 type=user username=200 |
| 00:30.55 | adelas | my DID routes however, i'm not sure but i put the phone # in and forwarded it to my cisco phone |
| 00:31.05 | adelas | i tried every combination of numbers i'm using so |
| 00:31.37 | adelas | i am Using AMP if that helps |
| 00:33.23 | adelas | anythint tc0nn? |
| 00:36.59 | adelas | anybody? |
| 00:39.39 | dudes | Just a side nite |
| 00:39.51 | dudes | note rather ... if you take a paperclip to a Cisco ATA that is locked |
| 00:39.58 | dudes | you can whip that mofo clean |
| 00:40.14 | file[laptop] | you have too much time on your hands |
| 00:40.22 | dudes | So |
| 00:40.47 | dudes | I paid for the damn thing and it got f'ed up ... so might as well |
| 00:41.51 | adelas | this is a medatrix ata ;| |
| 00:41.54 | adelas | much more complex |
| 00:44.10 | matthewc1 | adelas, if this is a server dedicated just for Asterisk, Asterisk @ Home may be easer to configure. |
| 00:44.25 | tc0nn | back |
| 00:45.10 | adelas | matthewc1, this is a asterick@home |
| 00:45.18 | adelas | tc0nn any help? |
| 00:45.35 | *** join/#asterisk CoolAcid (n=jason@216.99.98.39) |
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| 00:45.47 | tc0nn | Looking... Is this mediatrix brand new, or has it been used beforE? |
| 00:45.56 | adelas | used before |
| 00:46.02 | adelas | but all setting was resetted |
| 00:46.06 | adelas | to factory setting |
| 00:46.24 | adelas | and i set up the ip and set all the lines to allow for both ways |
| 00:46.28 | adelas | but theres alot more options too |
| 00:46.31 | adelas | i can make calls out |
| 00:46.35 | adelas | but i can't call in |
| 00:46.40 | *** join/#asterisk heath__ (n=root@12-215-34-84.client.mchsi.com) |
| 00:46.56 | heath__ | don't let dudes have all the glory; i helped too! |
| 00:47.42 | *** join/#asterisk sedwards50 (n=chatzill@adsl-66-120-116-175.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 00:47.43 | tc0nn | Where is it sending inbound calls? |
| 00:47.54 | matthewc1 | adelas, what does the asterisk consol say when in incoming call is attempted? (use asterisk -r to connect to the consol) |
| 00:47.56 | tc0nn | Or where is it supposed to.. |
| 00:48.06 | adelas | wat do u mean by inbound? |
| 00:48.09 | dudes | adelas - if you see nothing try sip debug |
| 00:48.16 | adelas | i just sent u guys theh log |
| 00:48.26 | adelas | http://mast3rdukill.sytes.net/callerrors.txt |
| 00:48.28 | adelas | thats what i see |
| 00:48.35 | adelas | when i try to make a call to the asterisk |
| 00:48.48 | adelas | its in sip debug mode |
| 00:48.57 | dudes | SIP/2.0 407 Proxy Authentication Required |
| 00:49.13 | dudes | take out fromuser/fromdomain add insecure=yes and canreinvite=no |
| 00:49.20 | matthewc1 | OK. Sorry, I am used to dealing with IAX. Configuring IAX is much easer. I use SIP for phones only. |
| 00:49.32 | adelas | dudes, how? |
| 00:49.37 | dudes | sip.conf |
| 00:49.47 | tc0nn | Show us your sip.conf peer definition. |
| 00:50.06 | tc0nn | Yeah.. What dudes said should fix it. |
| 00:50.17 | tc0nn | Sorry dudes, was off in another window. |
| 00:50.30 | sedwards50 | Anyone want to take a crack at a channel block/lock problem? |
| 00:51.23 | adelas | i don't have fromuser/fromdomain, in my sip.conf |
| 00:51.51 | dudes | add the latter two then |
| 00:52.18 | dudes | I said take out (be it if there.) |
| 00:52.32 | adelas | http://mast3rdukill.sytes.net/sip.txt |
| 00:52.40 | adelas | thats all i have in my sip.conf |
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| 00:53.33 | adelas | okay i added it, i still get a busy sound |
| 00:53.43 | adelas | o wait i didn't reload it tho |
| 00:53.43 | adelas | hehe |
| 00:54.01 | dudes | you must feel like a stupid dummy =p |
| 00:55.50 | *** join/#asterisk oplog2 (n=oplog2@206.222.29.50) |
| 00:56.23 | adelas | nope |
| 00:56.24 | adelas | no good |
| 00:56.27 | adelas | still get busy tone |
| 00:56.37 | dudes | you didn't show the context |
| 00:56.46 | adelas | wat u mean context? |
| 00:56.58 | twisted | UGH |
| 00:56.59 | twisted | this sucks |
| 00:57.06 | twisted | it's 8pm CDT and it's still 92 degrees outside |
| 00:57.08 | twisted | WTF |
| 00:57.17 | adelas | dudes: wat do u mean show context? |
| 00:57.19 | twisted | the heat index is still at 103 degrees, too |
| 00:57.31 | matthewc1 | Move to Maine. It is 68 out. |
| 00:57.32 | twisted | i can't stand it. |
| 00:57.36 | dudes | adelas - the sip context with your provider information |
| 00:57.42 | dudes | minus passwords and such |
| 00:58.21 | adelas | well, this is a fxo device |
| 00:58.24 | adelas | that acts as gateway |
| 00:58.27 | adelas | a medaitrix |
| 00:58.52 | adelas | http://www.mediatrix.com/products_devices.php?prodid=13 |
| 00:59.37 | dudes | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+sip.conf |
| 01:01.18 | *** part/#asterisk imcdona_ (n=imcdona@c-67-183-192-38.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 01:01.32 | adelas | dudes, but i don't have a VoIP provider |
| 01:01.45 | twisted | adelas, yes you do |
| 01:01.56 | twisted | adelas, your mediatrix box is the same thing |
| 01:02.26 | adelas | yea, but so my problem is my incoming setting? |
| 01:02.44 | adelas | would that mean my asterisk is a client? |
| 01:02.48 | Qwell | twisted: they're electrical |
| 01:02.54 | adelas | sip client? |
| 01:02.55 | twisted | Qwell, no they're not |
| 01:03.01 | Qwell | :p |
| 01:03.12 | twisted | my AC is on |
| 01:03.17 | twisted | but it's not doing very well right now |
| 01:03.31 | dudes | I had that issue on the hot 90+humid days |
| 01:03.35 | sedwards50 | Can someone explain why ast_waitfor_nandfds() is blocking my channel? |
| 01:03.46 | twisted | dudes, yea, it's 92 degrees and humid |
| 01:03.52 | Netgeeks | hrm, is this breaking asterisk dial plan logic, or is this planned behaviour |
| 01:04.17 | Netgeeks | exten => _X.,1,SetVar(blah=somevalue) |
| 01:04.22 | *** join/#asterisk Blackened (n=ubuntu@pcp08743297pcs.lvylok01.ar.comcast.net) |
| 01:04.36 | adelas | dudes, i don't really understand my problem right now, however i am able to call out, but no in |
| 01:04.41 | twisted | Netgeeks, setvar is depricated |
| 01:04.44 | Netgeeks | exten => _XXX,2,Do stuff for 3 digit length numbers |
| 01:04.57 | twisted | and no, Netgeeks, that's perfectly fine |
| 01:05.04 | Netgeeks | exten => _XXXXXXX,2,Do something different for more digits. |
| 01:05.07 | twisted | yep |
| 01:05.07 | Netgeeks | okay |
| 01:05.11 | twisted | Netgeeks, that's planned behaviour |
| 01:05.28 | twisted | it's VERY handy, isn't it? :P |
| 01:05.40 | dudes | adelas - As I mentioned ... show us the context for the number you are calling |
| 01:05.50 | Netgeeks | yes, I had it built into some other dialplans and I was getting ready to build into this one and figured I should ask |
| 01:05.57 | twisted | Netgeeks, :) |
| 01:05.59 | Netgeeks | would suck if it stoppped working at some release |
| 01:06.00 | twisted | Netgeeks, you going to be at *con? |
| 01:06.01 | matthewc1 | For reference, I think a TDM04B card would be easer to configure than a SIP box for FXO use for Asterisk @ Home. SIP is an excessively over engineered protocol. |
| 01:06.12 | adelas | how do i show u guys my context? |
| 01:06.13 | Netgeeks | Twisted: I think so, yes. |
| 01:06.17 | twisted | Netgeeks, good :) |
| 01:06.34 | twisted | matthewc1, uhm, we don't believe in *@home here |
| 01:06.51 | Netgeeks | Think I have one of my long term clients (based in Marina del Rey) paying my way :) |
| 01:07.01 | twisted | Netgeeks, nice |
| 01:07.05 | matthewc1 | twisted, adelas does :-) |
| 01:07.19 | nick125 | i got a question about localnet, how do i specify two ip blocks (one 192, another 172)? |
| 01:07.33 | twisted | nick125, add two localnet settings |
| 01:07.38 | adelas | i'm a noob tho :| |
| 01:07.39 | nick125 | ah ok |
| 01:08.00 | tc0nn | brb |
| 01:08.06 | Netgeeks | btw, twisted. If you are looking to make some cash on the side. I've got some asterisk patches that need to be fixed and/or built.... |
| 01:08.11 | sedwards50 | How can I play a file to just a conference admin when a member enters or leaves? |
| 01:08.20 | adelas | wats suppsoe to be my "USER Context |
| 01:08.20 | adelas | This is most often the account name or number your provider expects. |
| 01:08.20 | adelas | This USER Context will be used to define the below user details.: |
| 01:08.28 | adelas | woopss |
| 01:08.33 | adelas | heh |
| 01:08.35 | adelas | how that happen |
| 01:08.36 | adelas | lol |
| 01:08.40 | nick125 | would the submit for 172 be 255.255.255.0? |
| 01:08.50 | nick125 | (172.0.0.0) |
| 01:09.05 | twisted | you mean subnet mask? |
| 01:09.10 | nick125 | yes |
| 01:09.15 | nick125 | i cant remember |
| 01:09.22 | twisted | if you're running the class a of 172., then yes |
| 01:09.42 | file | wow |
| 01:09.45 | nick125 | ah ok |
| 01:09.48 | file | there's enough bandwidth on my CDMA phone for VoIP to work |
| 01:09.57 | nick125 | :o |
| 01:10.02 | puowvip | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn |
| 01:10.24 | nick125 | file: can you do a speed test on that line? it would be interesting to see :P |
| 01:10.27 | twisted | file, nice. |
| 01:10.33 | file | nick125: in a sec |
| 01:10.36 | file | gonna try something |
| 01:10.49 | twisted | file, send me porn |
| 01:10.53 | twisted | oh wait |
| 01:10.54 | twisted | n/m |
| 01:10.55 | nick125 | file: whos the provider? |
| 01:11.00 | adelas | twisted, are u fimiliar with the mediatrix? |
| 01:11.12 | adelas | i'll send you more porn then you can handle if u are ;p |
| 01:11.20 | twisted | adelas, mediatrix is a bitch |
| 01:11.27 | adelas | its the only thing i have |
| 01:11.30 | file | Telus Mobility |
| 01:11.38 | twisted | file: you need mike. |
| 01:11.46 | file | uh |
| 01:11.48 | file | there's no coverage here |
| 01:11.50 | file | it's useless |
| 01:11.56 | twisted | file: so move. |
| 01:12.14 | file | haha |
| 01:12.35 | nick125 | lol |
| 01:12.42 | file | 996 |
| 01:12.46 | twisted | woop |
| 01:12.48 | twisted | conf tyme |
| 01:13.58 | nick125 | last time i check, it was 8kbit/s |
| 01:14.01 | nick125 | at best |
| 01:14.08 | matthewc1 | * wonders when SIP will go away and IAX will reign supreme. |
| 01:14.14 | nick125 | edge is like 150kbit/s or something |
| 01:14.53 | nick125 | if i got that, and a decent phone, i could try to voip on the go :P |
| 01:15.36 | JerJer | latency is killer |
| 01:15.51 | nick125 | matthewc1: sadly, sip probably will never go away, too many people use it |
| 01:15.58 | DarthClue | matthewc1: when iax becomes stable, but that is a long way off. |
| 01:16.22 | sedwards50 | Any clues how to play a file to just a conference administrator? |
| 01:16.27 | matthewc1 | I just hate that a new protocol was developed that does not handle NAT gracefully at all. |
| 01:16.43 | matthewc1 | It is like FTP in port mode all over again. |
| 01:17.02 | *** join/#asterisk oplog2 (n=oplog2@206.222.29.50) |
| 01:17.12 | Mavvie | FTP was developed before NAT existed. |
| 01:17.30 | nick125 | is it just me or does nat seem to be the devil in disguse? |
| 01:17.50 | nick125 | disguise |
| 01:17.52 | Mavvie | nick125: it works fine for clients-to-server, but not for clients-to-clients. |
| 01:17.52 | matthewc1 | True, but you would have thought the folks who designed SIP would have learned from that. |
| 01:18.14 | nick125 | yeah |
| 01:18.21 | file | twisted is trying to hack my phone |
| 01:18.23 | Mavvie | nick125: like all the things, it gets used for things it wasn't desgined for and then copping the blame for it. |
| 01:18.39 | nick125 | whoa |
| 01:18.46 | nick125 | this hold music is doing weird things |
| 01:18.57 | DarthClue | if you would stop giving him the ip address it would be a bit harder. |
| 01:19.09 | nick125 | lol |
| 01:19.26 | sedwards50 | Hey, JerJer, how can I convince you to "trust" me to make calls to England throu NuFone.net? |
| 01:19.58 | twisted | file, no i'm not, i'm trying to port scan it ;) |
| 01:23.26 | Mavvie | Aug 21 11:22:27 tardis kernel: HDLC Receiver overrun on channel TE4/0/2/16 (master=TE4/0/2/16) |
| 01:23.28 | Mavvie | that's a new one. |
| 01:26.26 | Mavvie | got that with the upgrade to 1.0.9. Annoying. |
| 01:26.38 | nick125 | it keeps skipping and such |
| 01:26.50 | DarthClue | Mavvie: upgrade from? |
| 01:27.01 | Mavvie | from 1.0.7 |
| 01:27.04 | sedwards50 | I need some help making changes in meetme and I'm willing to pay. Anybody interested? |
| 01:27.52 | DarthClue | sedwards50: talk to anthm on Monday, he is pretty familar with meetme |
| 01:28.06 | Mavvie | wow, and the asterisk console gives me a zillion HDLC Bad FCS suddenly. |
| 01:28.29 | sedwards50 | Darth, Thanks for the tip. I'd like to get this fixed before Monday :( |
| 01:29.28 | DarthClue | sedwards50: make an offer and detail what you want. |
| 01:29.59 | Mavvie | let's reboot the device on the other side of the link. |
| 01:30.05 | sedwards50 | Darth, to you or to anthm? |
| 01:30.19 | file | 89 kilobits per second, 0.58 second latency |
| 01:30.56 | DarthClue | sedwards50: to everyone, pastebin the details and the offer. someone here may be lurking and might take you up on the offer. |
| 01:31.14 | sedwards50 | Darth, OK. |
| 01:36.05 | Mavvie | funny. it are the links a back-to-back connection which are giving these HDLC Overrun and Bad FCS errors |
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| 01:39.33 | Mavvie | yups. using the 1.0.7 zaptel drivers resolves the problem. |
| 01:39.47 | Mavvie | annoying. why? (rethorical) |
| 01:40.57 | Netgeeks | idiots and hackers.... they both make what would be elegant code ugly..... *sigh* |
| 01:43.15 | *** part/#asterisk Eminence (n=achin@cpe-24-198-66-186.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 01:44.02 | *** part/#asterisk MGSsancho (n=sancho@ppp-68-120-83-236.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 01:45.35 | nick125 | it was nice when people i wanted to call called, but, getting up and '15 new voicemessages' is annoying |
| 01:45.49 | nick125 | and those 15 were in the last 5 minutes |
| 01:47.04 | nick125 | whats a good codec to use over ethernet, that provides good quality? |
| 01:47.29 | Chuji | g711u |
| 01:48.15 | Chuji | I'm assuming by ethernet, you mean a LAN w/ at least 10mb? |
| 01:48.23 | nick125 | yup |
| 01:48.30 | nick125 | 10/100 |
| 01:48.34 | nick125 | ethernet |
| 01:48.44 | Chuji | Yeah, then use Ulaw |
| 01:48.58 | nick125 | whats the difference between ulaw and alaw? |
| 01:49.25 | Chuji | one has an a |
| 01:49.28 | Chuji | one has a u |
| 01:49.38 | nick125 | thats it? lol |
| 01:49.47 | Chuji | no |
| 01:49.54 | Chuji | alaw is a european thing |
| 01:50.05 | nick125 | aah |
| 01:50.12 | Chuji | ulaw is more universally used |
| 01:50.42 | Mavvie | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-December/078320.html <- nick125 |
| 01:50.51 | nick125 | using the gsm protocol, how many calls can i get though a 1mb up 6mb down line? |
| 01:51.18 | Chuji | err nick125 |
| 01:51.21 | nick125 | lol |
| 01:51.34 | nick125 | how much b/w does each client use? |
| 01:53.01 | Mavvie | nick125: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=alaw&word2=ulaw |
| 01:53.09 | Chuji | http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk698/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094ae2.shtml |
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| 01:53.53 | Chuji | ~google "codecs asterisk" |
| 01:54.02 | Chuji | jbot still doesn't google huh/ |
| 01:54.56 | nick125 | lol |
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| 02:05.25 | bkw_ | http://homepage.mac.com/brian.west/PhotoAlbum16.html |
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| 02:07.18 | Qwell | You got pictures of lightning? |
| 02:07.53 | Qwell | That last one is pretty good |
| 02:08.13 | bkw_ | ya |
| 02:08.23 | bkw_ | you see the fireworks ones I did? |
| 02:08.25 | Qwell | pretty highspeed camera, or? |
| 02:08.27 | Qwell | nope |
| 02:08.33 | DarthClue | Qwell: The meaning isn't hidden. It's right there in plain sight. Of course, we might want to question why he ran out and climbed on the roof with lightning nearby. |
| 02:08.34 | bkw_ | Kodak DX7590 |
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| 02:08.44 | bkw_ | haha sure did |
| 02:08.47 | bkw_ | about to go back up there |
| 02:08.49 | Qwell | DarthClue: I said that before I went to the URL |
| 02:09.00 | nick125 | DarthClue: lol |
| 02:09.00 | bkw_ | brb |
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| 02:13.46 | nick125 | hrm... |
| 02:14.55 | Mavvie | nick125: about 80kbps for G711 |
| 02:15.48 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.49 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.51 | nick125 | for gsm |
| 02:16.24 | clyrrad | trying to rebuild asterisk... get error [linux26] Error 2 |
| 02:16.31 | clyrrad | any idea why Zaptel does that? |
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| 02:16.56 | nick125 | G711u: |
| 02:16.57 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.57 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.58 | nick125 | hrm |
| 02:17.10 | nick125 | clyrrad: pastebin the whole error |
| 02:17.39 | clyrrad | http://pastebin.ca/20601 |
| 02:18.08 | clyrrad | the zaptel directory does exist there, and theere are files in that directory as well |
| 02:18.08 | nick125 | make sure theres something in /usr/src/zaptel |
| 02:18.27 | clyrrad | everythign is there i just got it from the cvs |
| 02:18.57 | nick125 | make sure you have permissions to the /usr/src/zaptel folder |
| 02:19.11 | clyrrad | yes, i ran everying as sudo |
| 02:19.28 | nick125 | ls /usr/src/zaptel |
| 02:19.33 | nick125 | if its long, pastebin it |
| 02:19.37 | clyrrad | ok |
| 02:20.10 | clyrrad | http://pastebin.ca/20603 |
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| 02:21.17 | nick125 | try cd to there, and type make && make install |
| 02:21.31 | adelas | anyone know anyything about mediatrix? |
| 02:21.44 | clyrrad | yah, I tried that but it gives the same linux26 error |
| 02:22.41 | nick125 | try using make linux26, then make install |
| 02:22.48 | clyrrad | and all the files seem to be there, I am running the make as sudo, its like something wrong in the make file? |
| 02:23.44 | nick125 | are you on 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 02:23.46 | clyrrad | I have alredy tried that as well... gives the same error on make linux26 as when I make zaptel |
| 02:24.51 | clyrrad | I belive 2.4 |
| 02:25.09 | clyrrad | i always forget this... what is the cmd to show your kernel version |
| 02:25.20 | Mavvie | uname |
| 02:25.32 | newl | uname -r :) |
| 02:25.51 | clyrrad | hahaha nice i always screw that one up |
| 02:25.54 | clyrrad | ok im using 2.6 |
| 02:26.15 | nick125 | do you need the zaptel modules on your install? |
| 02:26.37 | clyrrad | yes Asterisk does not compile with out it |
| 02:26.42 | clyrrad | gets stuck in a loop during the make |
| 02:26.56 | nick125 | this is weird |
| 02:27.01 | anonobomber | clyrrad: if you can't remember uname -r then try 'cat /proc/version' |
| 02:27.12 | nick125 | i compiled it earlier and it worked |
| 02:27.25 | nick125 | (well, not the actual asterisk, but, it compiled heh) |
| 02:27.37 | clyrrad | yes, i agree its strange.... something about linux26 like its a dependency or something? |
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| 02:28.06 | clyrrad | I have googled linux26 other people have had this problem, yet I have not seen anyone post a solution to this :( |
| 02:29.18 | anonobomber | clyrrad: what linux distribution are you running this on? |
| 02:29.53 | clyrrad | ubuntu |
| 02:30.17 | nick125 | hmm, never tried to compile it on ubuntu... |
| 02:30.40 | clyrrad | I had it running before, no problems, its a new machine now so I am building it again... It does work fine on ubuntu |
| 02:31.11 | anonobomber | clyrrad: debian testing branch has asterisk packages maybe you could build up the src-debs from there on your system |
| 02:32.01 | clyrrad | linux26 should be refering to the kernel sources I would think... But I know for sure I have the kernel sources there too, it must be a problem with the make file |
| 02:33.04 | anonobomber | clyrrad: did you make a symlink at /usr/src/linux26 that points to your kernel sources? |
| 02:33.47 | anonobomber | although if you're building on a 2.6 kernel it shouldn't need to touch the kernel source; the kernel headers should have enough information to build pretty much anything |
| 02:34.06 | clyrrad | yup, that was my line of thinking too |
| 02:34.22 | clyrrad | this is something zaptel specific I think... |
| 02:34.37 | nick125 | now my box wont register |
| 02:34.39 | nick125 | wtf |
| 02:34.52 | clyrrad | See the first error was SUBDIRS=/usr/src/zaptel: No such file or directory. |
| 02:34.59 | clyrrad | then it was teh linux26 error |
| 02:35.14 | clyrrad | so usually I debug the first error as the root cause... |
| 02:35.29 | anonobomber | clyrrad: did you put the zaptel sources in the /usr/src/zaptel directory? |
| 02:35.41 | clyrrad | yes straight out of the cvs |
| 02:35.42 | sedwards50 | If anybody's interested in earning some $$$$, I need help w meetme. I've posted details at http://sedwards.pastebin.com/341991. |
| 02:36.10 | clyrrad | I can see all the zaptel files in there too, thats whats so strange about this error |
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| 02:37.15 | anonobomber | maybe the cvs has changed a lot since so a release might give you better luck |
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| 02:37.56 | clyrrad | yes, its true.... but a cvs release for zaptel, asterisk at the same time should be good |
| 02:38.21 | anonobomber | not necessarily |
| 02:38.33 | anonobomber | have you posted anything on a mailing list about this or searced any of the mailing list archives? |
| 02:39.04 | clyrrad | yes, I was doing that before I posted in here.... |
| 02:39.29 | clyrrad | Like i said i have seen results about this error on google, but no one has posted a working solution to this problem |
| 02:39.31 | nick125 | i wonder if its possible to use a release zaptel and a cvs asterisk |
| 02:40.01 | anonobomber | clyrrad: welcome to the bleeding edge of cvs :) |
| 02:40.17 | nick125 | lol |
| 02:40.53 | clyrrad | hahahaha ya that makes me feel much better :P |
| 02:40.56 | anonobomber | has anyone here used X-ten for Pocket PC? |
| 02:41.03 | nick125 | nope |
| 02:41.05 | nick125 | not me |
| 02:41.09 | bkw_ | ok bak |
| 02:41.20 | nick125 | where did you go? |
| 02:41.24 | nick125 | :P |
| 02:41.28 | bkw_ | was on the roof taking pictures of lightning |
| 02:41.46 | bkw_ | this one wasn't going fast enough for me |
| 02:41.47 | Qwell | struck by lightning? |
| 02:41.50 | bkw_ | nope |
| 02:41.53 | anonobomber | bkw_: oh no, hopefully it wasn't real life War of the Worlds |
| 02:41.53 | nick125 | and the question is, why are you on the roof during a lightning storm? |
| 02:41.58 | bkw_ | hehe |
| 02:42.09 | bkw_ | the lighting storm is 10 miles from here |
| 02:42.10 | bkw_ | or more |
| 02:42.13 | bkw_ | off in the distance |
| 02:42.35 | anonobomber | nick125: he was checking his lightning rod to make sure it was ok. Its not a big deal though he had aluminum foil on his head to protect him from harm |
| 02:43.05 | nick125 | ah ok |
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| 02:46.34 | clyrrad | Hey found something.... Someone suggests its becase the Kernel has never been compiled.... what are your thoughts on this? |
| 02:46.45 | nick125 | maybe you dont have the headers there |
| 02:46.59 | anonobomber | clyrrad: apt-get update && apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` |
| 02:47.05 | anonobomber | that should rule that out for sure |
| 02:47.45 | clyrrad | good call |
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| 02:48.21 | anonobomber | harryvv: have a nice time last night? |
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| 02:52.41 | harryvv | yes |
| 02:52.42 | clyrrad | here goes nothing :P |
| 02:52.46 | harryvv | just dinner |
| 02:52.48 | harryvv | :) |
| 02:53.07 | nick125 | clyrrad: wow, you are right, that is nothing |
| 02:53.15 | clyrrad | hahaha |
| 02:53.54 | nick125 | you got the headers? |
| 02:54.00 | clyrrad | yes |
| 02:54.04 | clyrrad | well teh kernel sources |
| 02:54.16 | nick125 | ok |
| 02:54.21 | clyrrad | that should be good i would think |
| 02:54.25 | nick125 | yeah |
| 02:54.28 | clyrrad | but i get the same damn error grrrr |
| 02:55.02 | nick125 | you have a /lib/modules/ right, and its writeable, right? |
| 02:55.03 | anonobomber | lol |
| 02:55.11 | harryvv | anonobomber yea it was okay i guess ;) I remember redomond as all forest and hardly any trees. |
| 02:55.16 | harryvv | err |
| 02:55.20 | harryvv | hardly any houses |
| 02:55.21 | harryvv | heheh |
| 02:55.24 | clyrrad | yes lib/modules is there |
| 02:55.38 | clyrrad | i have a 2.6.10-5-386 foler in there |
| 02:55.44 | nick125 | ok |
| 02:57.37 | clyrrad | hahahaha im out of ideas.... this is crazy :P |
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| 02:58.05 | anonobomber | clyrrad: pipe the command you're running into tee and hook us up with the output |
| 02:58.30 | anonobomber | clyrrad: i wouldn't recommend flooding the channel though, figure out some other way to get it to us |
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| 02:58.44 | harryvv | anonobomber pastebin.ca |
| 02:58.56 | anonobomber | harryvv: yes, thats one way |
| 02:59.24 | anonobomber | harryvv: i usually do sudo cp file /var/www/ |
| 03:00.27 | nick125 | usually i just open gftp |
| 03:01.06 | anonobomber | once you go lftp you never go back |
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| 03:02.59 | harryvv | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002446724_dog20.html |
| 03:03.02 | harryvv | brb |
| 03:06.07 | nick125 | or sometimes i go /exec cat file |
| 03:07.07 | Qwell | I like to /exec -o cat /dev/urandom |
| 03:07.23 | nick125 | ooo |
| 03:07.25 | nick125 | thats fun |
| 03:07.44 | anonobomber | i like /exec -o perl sysinfo.pl :D |
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| 03:08.27 | adelas | wats a good i mean GOOOD commonly used FXO gateway? |
| 03:08.51 | cursor | Hardware, or service provider? |
| 03:09.06 | adelas | hardward, to conver pots analog phone lines into VoIP |
| 03:09.14 | adelas | convert* |
| 03:09.19 | cursor | I like the Sipura SPA-3000 |
| 03:09.29 | cursor | 1 x FXO and 1 x FXS |
| 03:09.47 | adelas | do u need a fxs? |
| 03:10.05 | cursor | If you need more ports then there are other devices out there |
| 03:10.31 | adelas | like? |
| 03:10.42 | cursor | For the price, the FXS is almost free :-) |
| 03:11.07 | adelas | wat is a fxs? |
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| 03:11.29 | cursor | FXO = connect to a phone line. FXS = connect to a phone |
| 03:11.40 | pr0m | i could use come help connecting to broadvoice. |
| 03:11.53 | adelas | fxo is wat i need then i think? |
| 03:12.02 | adelas | so wait, asterisk is a fxs? |
| 03:12.12 | cursor | Asterisk is not either of those |
| 03:12.12 | adelas | b/c my cisco phones connect to it |
| 03:12.14 | pr0m | i'm getting an error that says the number i'm calling is not a local user. |
| 03:12.15 | cursor | Asterisk is a PBX |
| 03:12.40 | cursor | IP phones don't use analogue interfaces |
| 03:12.48 | adelas | i need a gateway |
| 03:13.07 | adelas | well heres the deal, i have 4 regular phone lines, how can i get that to connect to asterisk and out to cisco phones? |
| 03:13.21 | pr0m | -- Got SIP response 415 "Unsupported Media Type" back from 147.135.20.128 |
| 03:13.24 | adelas | i would need 4 fxo gateway? |
| 03:13.45 | cursor | There are boxes that give you four FXO ports and connect to Asterisk via SIP |
| 03:13.57 | nick125 | get a FXO card or box, connect it to the asterisk, then (if the cisco phones support sip or iax), connect the phones to asterisk |
| 03:14.21 | adelas | everything by SIP |
| 03:14.30 | clyrrad | Ok guys sorry for the delay here is the pastebin http://pastebin.ca/20607 |
| 03:15.17 | cursor | Think of Asterisk as the switch/router for calls |
| 03:15.24 | cursor | Which is what a PBX is |
| 03:16.27 | clyrrad | refresh and you will see the latest error :) |
| 03:16.47 | anonobomber | clyrrad: looks like all your problems are in the zaptel source not being there or being the wrong version |
| 03:17.35 | clyrrad | being in /usr/src/zaptel? |
| 03:17.42 | clyrrad | the files are there.... thats whats so odd |
| 03:17.43 | anonobomber | yeah |
| 03:17.51 | anonobomber | try a non cvs release version |
| 03:18.09 | clyrrad | apt-get ? |
| 03:19.12 | anonobomber | clyrrad: possibly, otherwise get it from the zaptel home page |
| 03:19.37 | clyrrad | onlythign i have not tried is the zaptel homepage |
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| 03:19.48 | anonobomber | ok so give that a shot |
| 03:19.53 | clyrrad | I tried apt-get but then asterisk woudl not compile, got stuck in an indefinate loopo |
| 03:21.04 | cursor | The compilation got stuck in a loop? |
| 03:21.18 | clyrrad | yes |
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| 03:21.42 | mog_home | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.43 | clyrrad | kept shoing it was working / installing / compliing the exact same file over and over and over |
| 03:21.47 | mog_home | just grab from asterisk.org |
| 03:22.02 | clyrrad | mog_home.... i agree... thats why I was and still am tryign to use cvs |
| 03:22.11 | jeobjeobjeob | why does asterisk bomb whenever i don't have a macro set MACRO_RESULT? |
| 03:22.12 | mog_home | what is this infinite loop? |
| 03:22.16 | jeobjeobjeob | and how do i make it continue the call? |
| 03:22.17 | mog_home | i can log in for you take a look |
| 03:22.42 | clyrrad | well the loop does not give an error.... it just never ends |
| 03:22.48 | clyrrad | shows its doing the same job over and over |
| 03:22.55 | clyrrad | but thats becase zaptel is not compling |
| 03:22.56 | mog_home | are you sure it is not just compiling? |
| 03:23.08 | mog_home | i could take a look if you open ssh |
| 03:23.12 | clyrrad | I have compiled it before on this box and it never took that long |
| 03:23.32 | clyrrad | and besides zaptel wont install... and I need that before i can install asterisk |
| 03:23.41 | mog_home | yeah |
| 03:23.58 | mog_home | i work for digium and would be happy to fix it for you |
| 03:25.11 | file | mog_home: geek. |
| 03:25.38 | mog_home | dnannana super geek! |
| 03:25.58 | adelas | mog_home would u recommend any fxo gateway? |
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| 03:26.32 | mog_home | sipura |
| 03:26.40 | mog_home | or tdm card ^_^ |
| 03:27.19 | adelas | tdm a pci card? |
| 03:27.22 | mog_home | yeah |
| 03:27.27 | adelas | can't use it :| |
| 03:27.29 | mog_home | hey i work for digium |
| 03:27.36 | mog_home | got to eat |
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| 03:27.46 | adelas | dose sipura have 4x analog? |
| 03:27.50 | mog_home | but yeah sipuras are great little things |
| 03:27.56 | mog_home | i think they might have a model for that |
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| 03:28.09 | mog_home | i think they have a dual span at the very leasy |
| 03:28.12 | mog_home | least* |
| 03:28.21 | mog_home | but I avoid sip when possible |
| 03:28.22 | cursor | Mediatrix 1204 |
| 03:28.24 | adelas | is it fxo i want or fxo? |
| 03:28.30 | mog_home | yeah |
| 03:28.32 | mog_home | they make both |
| 03:28.37 | cursor | That provides 4 x FXO + SIP |
| 03:28.37 | adelas | but i have sip cisco phone |
| 03:28.49 | adelas | wait, fxs can become fxo? |
| 03:28.55 | mog_home | no |
| 03:29.06 | adelas | no the mediatrix 1204 is wat i have right now |
| 03:29.10 | mog_home | the way it works is fxs device speak fxo signalling |
| 03:29.16 | mog_home | and fxo devices speak fxs signalling |
| 03:29.20 | mog_home | which can be confusing |
| 03:29.26 | adelas | i can't configure my mediatrix to work with asterisk correctly |
| 03:29.35 | Hmmhesays | i can |
| 03:29.37 | mog_home | ??? |
| 03:29.38 | Hmmhesays | <shrug> |
| 03:29.44 | mog_home | you cant work with amp adelas |
| 03:29.47 | mog_home | dont blame asterisk |
| 03:29.48 | nick125 | mog_home: which you are right, im already confused and you probably havent even started :P |
| 03:29.56 | adelas | i can work with config files |
| 03:29.58 | Hmmhesays | i've done tons of mediatrix installs |
| 03:30.03 | adelas | hmmhesays can i pm u? |
| 03:30.08 | Hmmhesays | yeah but i'm going to the bar |
| 03:30.12 | Hmmhesays | i can probably help you tomorrow |
| 03:30.26 | mog_home | adelas im sure if you called digium or other asterisk pros they could configure your box for you to talk with whatever you need |
| 03:30.38 | adelas | okay |
| 03:31.48 | cursor | I'm trying to find out whether the Cisco 7960G can run off a 15W PoE injector |
| 03:31.56 | cursor | Some are 15W. Others are 20W |
| 03:32.27 | cursor | I suppose I'd better be sure before I place an order :-) |
| 03:32.32 | nick125 | lol |
| 03:32.34 | nick125 | yeah |
| 03:32.38 | cursor | *BOOM* |
| 03:33.13 | cursor | The 7960G on my desk was $100 :-) |
| 03:33.13 | mog_home | budget tone will do it |
| 03:33.24 | mog_home | but they can have bad echocan |
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| 03:33.43 | pygrammer | cursor: how'd you get such a good deal? |
| 03:33.45 | pygrammer | i see them for $250 |
| 03:33.54 | cursor | pygrammer: ebay |
| 03:34.15 | cursor | The Aastra phones look nice, but I've heard mixed reports about the firmware |
| 03:34.15 | mog_home | you can get em for 100 if you buy in big enough bulk |
| 03:34.22 | cursor | That'll probably settle quickly |
| 03:34.51 | pygrammer | mog_home: I don't play on buying in bulk :) |
| 03:34.55 | pygrammer | cursor: Ah, ok |
| 03:35.29 | cursor | I've not heard good things about the Sipura SPA-841 phone so far |
| 03:36.00 | pygrammer | now, it doesn't matter if you call answer or hangup with the parens, does it? |
| 03:36.14 | pygrammer | it seems weird that with asterisk there are like at least 3 different ways to do everything in the configuration files |
| 03:36.40 | cursor | What do you want to do? |
| 03:37.01 | pygrammer | I mean, in general; like does it matter if "Answer" has or doesn't have parens? |
| 03:37.03 | pygrammer | to call it |
| 03:37.06 | pygrammer | Answer() or Answer |
| 03:37.25 | pygrammer | and then there's calling things with parens, or just using commas, which I had no idea about until I read an example |
| 03:37.36 | pygrammer | like Dial,SIP/200,40,r, etc. |
| 03:37.44 | cursor | I use commas |
| 03:37.46 | pygrammer | instead of Dial(SIP/200,40,r,) |
| 03:37.54 | pygrammer | how about for answer and hangup? |
| 03:37.58 | pygrammer | do you call it with parens? |
| 03:38.01 | pygrammer | or none? |
| 03:38.01 | cursor | I use parens and commas, like your second Dial() example |
| 03:38.12 | cursor | You can use | as well :-) |
| 03:38.16 | pygrammer | yeah |
| 03:38.33 | pygrammer | it's kinda ridiculous that they didn't standardize the configuration files so everything's the same |
| 03:38.46 | mog_home | well they did |
| 03:38.49 | mog_home | but you can do either |
| 03:38.49 | cursor | You can standardise on whatever you prefer |
| 03:38.50 | pygrammer | so you don't have to learn and understand 500 different ways of doing things to read and comprehend other people's scripts |
| 03:38.53 | mog_home | you can also do pipe |
| 03:39.01 | mog_home | the standard is just not so rigid |
| 03:39.07 | cursor | I use App(arg,arg) |
| 03:39.19 | pygrammer | how about for hangup and answer, for example? |
| 03:39.23 | pygrammer | do you call it with or without parens? |
| 03:39.31 | cursor | without |
| 03:39.33 | pygrammer | most seem to call it without |
| 03:39.35 | mog_home | you can do both |
| 03:39.43 | pygrammer | but then i saw it on the wiki that they used both |
| 03:39.44 | mog_home | you can do both for every app |
| 03:39.49 | cursor | if () then you can leave off the parens |
| 03:39.50 | pygrammer | yeah |
| 03:39.52 | nick125 | are the budgetone 102s any good? |
| 03:39.59 | mog_home | bad echocan |
| 03:40.02 | mog_home | but otherwise fine |
| 03:40.19 | nick125 | is there any way to fix the echo? |
| 03:40.34 | mog_home | the echocanceller on the phone is bad |
| 03:40.42 | cursor | Do you need an IP phone? |
| 03:40.43 | mog_home | you can beef echocancelling elsewhere |
| 03:40.50 | mog_home | but it is not that good on the phone |
| 03:40.52 | pygrammer | then i was reading the wiki on festival, and in one place it said ABSOLUTELY DO NOT USE QUOTES, whereas another was stressing USING QUOTES in your festival call.... |
| 03:40.59 | cursor | You could get something like a Sipura SPA-2000 and use two cheap analogue phones |
| 03:41.06 | mog_home | that is because of poor festival |
| 03:41.12 | mog_home | and the way it handles text strings |
| 03:41.20 | pygrammer | mog_home, so which is it? |
| 03:41.24 | pygrammer | Because Festival isn't working for me ... |
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| 03:41.32 | mog_home | dont use quotes |
| 03:41.40 | Lathos42 | "Hello" |
| 03:41.41 | pygrammer | so like |
| 03:41.42 | pygrammer | exten => 10,1,Answer() |
| 03:41.42 | pygrammer | exten => 10,2,Festival(Please wait while I try that extension) |
| 03:41.42 | pygrammer | exten => 10,3,Hangup() |
| 03:41.45 | mog_home | yeah |
| 03:41.55 | Lathos42 | =) |
| 03:41.58 | surfdue | nick pickup 200 |
| 03:42.04 | pygrammer | well, that isn't working -- i just hear silence ... hmm, gonna have to troubleshoot this -- sigh |
| 03:42.07 | cursor | It's good to put a Wait(1) after the Answer |
| 03:42.11 | pygrammer | yea |
| 03:42.13 | pygrammer | just testing |
| 03:42.20 | mog_home | you sure festival is working |
| 03:42.38 | pygrammer | well, i started the server (debian testing), restarted asterisk |
| 03:42.38 | cursor | playback an existing sound (gsm file) |
| 03:42.55 | pygrammer | i have IVR/auto. attendant in the first menu, and it works |
| 03:43.04 | pygrammer | gsm |
| 03:43.06 | mog_home | ? |
| 03:43.09 | mog_home | i mean festival |
| 03:43.11 | pygrammer | so i know playback works |
| 03:43.14 | pygrammer | yeah, i was talking to cursor |
| 03:43.21 | mog_home | festival has nothing to do with playback |
| 03:43.28 | pygrammer | <cursor> playback an existing sound (gsm file) |
| 03:43.29 | mog_home | and you can send it commands over the server port |
| 03:43.39 | pygrammer | i didn't understand that |
| 03:43.55 | cursor | I don't use festival at all |
| 03:44.05 | pygrammer | mog_home, there's no festival_server.log on my system |
| 03:44.10 | cursor | all of the sounds I use are pre-recorded |
| 03:44.11 | pygrammer | so i don't understand this |
| 03:44.13 | mog_home | i have a feeling you dont have festival working |
| 03:44.26 | mog_home | follow voip-info guide on installing it and getting it working |
| 03:44.27 | pygrammer | nobody 8314 0.0 10.6 17684 13588 ? Ss 23:28 0:00 /usr/bin/festival --server |
| 03:44.41 | pygrammer | I did |
| 03:45.37 | pygrammer | When I call that extension (10), I just hear silence, and don't see anything in the * CLI |
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| 03:46.00 | mog_home | ahhhh |
| 03:46.03 | mog_home | fix festival |
| 03:46.06 | mog_home | its not in asterisk |
| 03:46.33 | cursor | If you don't see anything in the Asterisk CLI then are you sure your dial is being completed? |
| 03:46.38 | cursor | Perhaps you need to dial 10# |
| 03:46.43 | cursor | You sould see the Answer, at least |
| 03:47.15 | pygrammer | i'm not dialing, just Answering, "Festivaling," and "Hangup"ing |
| 03:47.36 | pygrammer | festival.conf is fine |
| 03:47.38 | cursor | Something needs to be calling before you can answer etc. |
| 03:47.51 | cursor | are you sure that the caller is connecting ok? |
| 03:47.51 | pygrammer | i'm calling from my softphone, and my other extens work fine |
| 03:47.55 | pygrammer | yes |
| 03:47.56 | cursor | ok |
| 03:47.59 | cursor | just checking |
| 03:48.52 | cursor | Well, assuming you have a level of verbosity in your CLI, you should see the incoming call and the Answer etc. |
| 03:49.24 | mog_home | its festival |
| 03:49.28 | mog_home | fix festival |
| 03:49.32 | mog_home | trust me |
| 03:49.53 | pygrammer | Ok, works now |
| 03:50.03 | pygrammer | Debian Sarge - Festival Deb - Festival Access List - You may have to modify your Festival configuration with the following changes in order for this to work using Debian Sarge with the Festival deb package. (contributed by dsfr, aka Chris Hozian): |
| 03:50.09 | pygrammer | Did the trick |
| 03:50.10 | pygrammer | :) |
| 03:50.51 | mog_home | I told you ^_^ |
| 03:50.53 | pygrammer | it's so weird though; festival cuts it off midway through and hangs up before it's finished saying what i told it to say |
| 03:50.56 | mog_home | sorry got frustrated |
| 03:51.04 | pygrammer | haha, not your fault :) |
| 03:51.06 | pygrammer | <-- stupid one |
| 03:51.07 | mog_home | you using . , etc syntax |
| 03:51.21 | nick125 | hey, i got a question, one of my clients is getting crackling on their line, however, if they call me though IAX2, it sounds fine, its just when i talk to him i get the crackling |
| 03:51.23 | pygrammer | ? |
| 03:51.28 | nick125 | any ideas on how to fix that? |
| 03:51.34 | pygrammer | mog_home, what do you mean? |
| 03:51.49 | nick125 | there doesnt seem to be a connection issue, 150ms max and 0% ping loss |
| 03:51.53 | mog_home | did you have Hello. I am awesome! |
| 03:51.59 | mog_home | or did you have Hello I am awesome |
| 03:52.11 | mog_home | punctuation |
| 03:52.11 | pygrammer | oh, no punctuation |
| 03:52.19 | pygrammer | exten => 10,3,Festival(Please wait while I try that extension) |
| 03:52.27 | mog_home | that causes issues with debian that i am aware off |
| 03:52.28 | pygrammer | it hangs up before "that" |
| 03:52.36 | mog_home | hmm that is odd |
| 03:52.45 | nick125 | any ideas? |
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| 03:52.51 | nick125 | we are both using xlite on linux |
| 03:52.52 | mog_home | if you have more text does it play it all |
| 03:53.36 | nick125 | is it possibly a NAT issue or something? |
| 03:53.36 | pygrammer | then it cuts off the first part |
| 03:53.37 | pygrammer | so weird |
| 03:53.50 | pygrammer | it alternately cuts off the first and last parts of what it says |
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| 03:54.49 | surfdue | is this real? exten => 10,3,Festival(Please wait while I try that extension) |
| 03:55.00 | surfdue | will thatreally make it say that |
| 03:55.13 | pygrammer | surfdue ... yes |
| 03:55.22 | pygrammer | mog_home, maybe i ought to add a Wait(1) afterwards |
| 03:55.25 | nick125 | the other end hears me fine, i just hear them cracking |
| 03:55.42 | pygrammer | but that's still not very good |
| 03:55.56 | mog_home | did that fix it? |
| 03:56.15 | pygrammer | yeah, but it still cuts off the frotn |
| 03:56.16 | pygrammer | *front |
| 03:56.17 | pygrammer | this is hilarious |
| 03:56.48 | pygrammer | http://pastebin.com/342024 |
| 03:57.15 | pygrammer | it starts off, "ait while..." |
| 03:58.34 | cursor | Add the Wait(1) after the Answer |
| 03:58.54 | pygrammer | I did... look at my pastebin |
| 03:59.08 | cursor | ok |
| 03:59.38 | heath__ | heh, reminds of the ATA 186, calls you an ASSWD if you get the pass wrong |
| 03:59.53 | surfdue | nick125, brb |
| 04:00.10 | cursor | Wasn't Aswad a Regaee band? |
| 04:00.31 | pygrammer | so wtf could be the problem? |
| 04:00.50 | cursor | Wait(2) :-) |
| 04:01.00 | pygrammer | But you guys don't have to do that, do you? |
| 04:01.14 | cursor | I have no idea about Festival |
| 04:01.17 | cursor | Never used it |
| 04:01.33 | nick125 | any idea of another client i can have him try? |
| 04:01.37 | nick125 | thats easy to config |
| 04:02.06 | krisguy | nick125: for linux? |
| 04:02.18 | pygrammer | Excuse my language, but FUCK |
| 04:02.29 | pygrammer | Wait(2) doesn't even solve the problem |
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| 04:04.30 | heath__ | Pygrammer: try Festival (ZZZZZZZZZ Please wait yadda yadda yadda) |
| 04:04.34 | heath__ | or something of that nature |
| 04:05.08 | nick125 | yes for linux |
| 04:05.49 | krisguy | nick125: I've used kphone, easy to config, but GUI leaves very much to be desired |
| 04:05.53 | cursor | Replace ZZZZ with the hidden insult of your choice :-) |
| 04:06.02 | nick125 | lol |
| 04:06.18 | nick125 | krisguy: yeah, agreed, plus, it seems the dmtf doesnt work in it when i tried it |
| 04:06.24 | pygrammer | maybe he's saying "please," but it sure don't sound like it |
| 04:06.26 | pygrammer | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz works |
| 04:06.32 | pygrammer | course, how many Zs is he saying? :) |
| 04:06.35 | pygrammer | could be cutting off a few |
| 04:06.46 | pygrammer | that dumbass, he should learn to talk better :-pp |
| 04:06.48 | pygrammer | :-p* |
| 04:07.02 | pygrammer | fucking redneck |
| 04:07.25 | krisguy | nick125: DTMF in kphone can work with Asterisk, but it's a pain to config |
| 04:07.27 | pygrammer | It seems using quotes works just as well as not using them |
| 04:07.29 | nick125 | cursor: what if festival all of the suddenly worked normally, huh? :) |
| 04:07.37 | nick125 | krisguy: like...how hard? |
| 04:07.55 | pygrammer | I can see why you all don't like festival |
| 04:07.59 | pygrammer | or at least with Asterisk |
| 04:08.01 | krisguy | I worked on it for 3 hours, even had to go into the source code, still not working |
| 04:08.12 | nick125 | ok...next client suggestion? :P |
| 04:08.15 | krisguy | gave up and went to XLite |
| 04:08.47 | pygrammer | oh, and then get this: sometimes when i call it, it just hangs up on me |
| 04:09.05 | pygrammer | festival :) |
| 04:09.23 | pygrammer | life's a festival with festival |
| 04:09.34 | nick125 | krisguy: the problem with xlite is that it seems to crackle on the other box, it works fine here though |
| 04:10.03 | nick125 | and, the crackling, its not just a little minor thing, its really bad |
| 04:10.44 | pygrammer | okay, i'm done with festival -- why the fuck can't it just playback correctly? |
| 04:10.46 | krisguy | most crackles are usually either bad headset/soundcard or the codec is taking too much memory or too many cycles |
| 04:10.52 | nick125 | we've tried g711u and gsm |
| 04:11.06 | nick125 | both have same issues |
| 04:11.17 | nick125 | there arent any crackles when we try skype though |
| 04:11.23 | krisguy | how much ram and what proc? |
| 04:11.27 | cursor | s/sk/h/ |
| 04:11.55 | pygrammer | DOES ANYONE USE FESTIVAL HERE, AND IF SO, DOES IT PLAY BACK OK? |
| 04:11.59 | krisguy | nick125: I'll brb |
| 04:12.13 | pygrammer | sorry for my egregious caps, but i'm about to toss my whole PBX system |
| 04:12.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | pygrammer, yes, |
| 04:12.25 | MikeJ[Laptop] | and it works as well as festival does |
| 04:12.35 | nick125 | krisguy: let me ask him when he gets back..hopefully today |
| 04:12.38 | pygrammer | MikeJ[Laptop], so it doesn't cut off at all? |
| 04:12.43 | gravemind | pygrammer: the module tends to be a pile of crap. try using it with AGI |
| 04:12.45 | MikeJ[Laptop] | not for me.. |
| 04:12.49 | gravemind | or maybe there was something on the wiki... |
| 04:12.56 | MikeJ[Laptop] | but it was a pia to get running correctly |
| 04:13.04 | pygrammer | well, it's running -- just not correctly |
| 04:13.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | try cepstral |
| 04:13.21 | pygrammer | and i'm wondering if anyone here has experienced the same problems, and if so, what they did to correct it |
| 04:13.21 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it's better |
| 04:13.47 | pygrammer | it costs... |
| 04:14.03 | gravemind | pygrammer: try http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+Festival under 'Tip' |
| 04:14.46 | pygrammer | I saw that, but they weren't exactly specific with "better results." |
| 04:14.46 | gravemind | you can use $insert_your_language_here with it, of course |
| 04:14.51 | gravemind | heh |
| 04:14.59 | gravemind | for me "better results" was working as opposed getting silence. |
| 04:15.15 | pygrammer | well, it works for me, but it cuts off in the beginning |
| 04:15.54 | MikeJ[Laptop] | well, festival sounds like crud... |
| 04:16.05 | gravemind | indeed it does |
| 04:16.05 | pygrammer | gravemind, i could try ti |
| 04:16.05 | MikeJ[Laptop] | in my opinion it;'s useless anyway. |
| 04:16.06 | pygrammer | *it |
| 04:16.12 | pygrammer | yeah, it sounds awful |
| 04:16.22 | pygrammer | i just like programmatically generating things :D |
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| 04:18.27 | pygrammer | so you all just use prerecorded stuff? |
| 04:18.38 | gravemind | pretty much |
| 04:18.47 | gravemind | there's probably a safer way to do it than just what's outlined |
| 04:19.03 | gravemind | ie pick a cycling number from 1-60 when making the file and use AGI |
| 04:19.11 | gravemind | that way you don't collide when two people are on at once |
| 04:19.49 | pygrammer | ? i haven't heard of that problem? what do you mean? |
| 04:20.43 | gravemind | well if you use that example and two people go into the same extension at the same time |
| 04:20.57 | gravemind | then one person will overwrite the output file |
| 04:21.01 | gravemind | and they'll both hear the same thing |
| 04:21.31 | pygrammer | huh? |
| 04:21.40 | pygrammer | what output file? |
| 04:23.54 | pygrammer | gravemind, i'm rather confused |
| 04:24.18 | gravemind | in the example on the wiki |
| 04:24.29 | pygrammer | which one? the tip under festival? |
| 04:24.31 | gravemind | it does text2wave -o my_new_sound.ulaw -otype ulaw -, which outputs the wave to a file called my_new_sound.ulaw |
| 04:24.49 | gravemind | if two people use TTS at the same time, one will overwrite the other's file |
| 04:25.03 | pygrammer | oh, yeah. |
| 04:25.42 | gravemind | so you should put some kind of randomness into it |
| 04:25.59 | ManxPower | ${UNIQUEID} is useful for that |
| 04:26.11 | gravemind | ... so it is. *levelup* |
| 04:28.21 | pygrammer | ok, i'd like to do some voice recognition |
| 04:28.24 | pygrammer | just for fun |
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| 04:29.18 | pygrammer | spinx |
| 04:31.12 | pygrammer | anyone do some VR? |
| 04:32.36 | pygrammer | no? |
| 04:35.39 | Netgeeks | [root@pbx1 paragon]# wc extensions.conf |
| 04:35.39 | Netgeeks | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:35.56 | Netgeeks | doh |
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| 04:36.40 | pygrammer | no one does voice recognition stuff here? |
| 04:37.19 | JunK-Y | pygrammer: sphinx does. |
| 04:37.42 | pygrammer | :) |
| 04:37.57 | pygrammer | i don't have any real use for it, but it'd be cool to use it somehow |
| 04:39.49 | Hogie | whenever I get on a support line that has that, I always end up pushing 0 and telling them (a lie) that the system transfered me to them |
| 04:40.05 | pygrammer | haha |
| 04:40.26 | pygrammer | well, i was just listening to the CMU sphinx demo conversation file, and it was pretty cool |
| 04:40.50 | pygrammer | the guy managed to book a couple flights and a hotel in SF, and the "voice" even knew where things were in relation to the airport -- cool stuff |
| 04:41.35 | pygrammer | the programmers even made a [somewhat lame and futile] attempt to make the "guy" personable; he said, "thanks for calling... it's been a pretty boring day," or something |
| 04:41.43 | Hogie | ever had to do a re-activation on xp/2003 via phone? |
| 04:41.46 | pygrammer | and said "umm" |
| 04:41.50 | pygrammer | Hogie, yep |
| 04:41.59 | pygrammer | Mrs. Microsoft understood me fine :D |
| 04:42.03 | pygrammer | I've booked trains on Amtrak |
| 04:42.07 | Hogie | that system didn't understand me |
| 04:42.09 | surfdue | when asterisk rings its kinda cracly |
| 04:42.19 | pygrammer | Hogie, maybe you have a bad southern accent |
| 04:42.30 | pygrammer | :-D |
| 04:42.31 | Hogie | I was raised in San Diego/Vegas |
| 04:42.36 | pygrammer | even worse :P |
| 04:42.43 | Hogie | its more like I can't make the R sound correctly |
| 04:42.48 | Hogie | er, S |
| 04:42.51 | pygrammer | why? |
| 04:42.52 | Hogie | lol, where did I get R from? |
| 04:43.05 | Hogie | dunno, even speach training in school couldn't fix it |
| 04:43.05 | pygrammer | what's so hard about the S? |
| 04:43.17 | Hogie | speech even |
| 04:43.27 | Hogie | it just doesn't come out right |
| 04:43.35 | pygrammer | what does it sound like? |
| 04:43.42 | Hogie | like a th |
| 04:43.51 | pygrammer | oh, you have a lithp |
| 04:44.11 | Hogie | that's why I perfer to talk to the net instead of on the phone;) |
| 04:44.16 | pygrammer | haha |
| 04:44.37 | pygrammer | :) |
| 04:44.41 | pygrammer | Don't sweat it |
| 04:44.43 | Hogie | why do people call a PRI a PR one ? |
| 04:44.45 | pygrammer | manybe people have it worse |
| 04:44.48 | pygrammer | *many |
| 04:44.58 | pygrammer | some cannot even talk |
| 04:44.58 | Hogie | I heard that yesterday |
| 04:45.06 | pygrammer | look at Steven Hawking :D |
| 04:45.16 | Hogie | he's got bigger problems than not talking though |
| 04:45.21 | pygrammer | hahaha yeah |
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| 04:46.22 | Hogie | One Ice down, another 5 to go |
| 04:46.29 | pygrammer | Ice? |
| 04:46.39 | Hogie | Smirnoff |
| 04:46.39 | pygrammer | Ith? |
| 04:46.43 | pygrammer | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:46.46 | pygrammer | Eyeth |
| 04:47.02 | pygrammer | oh, the good stuff\ |
| 04:47.10 | Hogie | Thmirnoff Eyeth |
| 04:47.25 | pygrammer | haha |
| 04:47.38 | pygrammer | ok, enough making fun |
| 04:47.59 | pygrammer | too late, my time has come, sent shivers down my spine.... |
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| 04:48.07 | Hogie | hah |
| 04:48.23 | pygrammer | speaking of hoagies, i want one |
| 04:48.27 | pygrammer | a giant hoagie |
| 04:48.33 | cursor | What's that? |
| 04:48.48 | pygrammer | bomber: a large sandwich made of a long crusty roll split lengthwise and filled with meats and cheese (and tomato and onion and lettuce and condiments); different names are used in different sections of the United States |
| 04:48.48 | Hogie | are you from the south? |
| 04:49.02 | pygrammer | Hogie, me? |
| 04:49.10 | Hogie | no, cursor |
| 04:49.19 | cursor | I'd just call it a sandwich |
| 04:49.27 | pygrammer | it's more than a sandwich |
| 04:49.32 | pygrammer | it's a way of life |
| 04:49.33 | pygrammer | lol |
| 04:49.39 | cursor | Hogie: yes |
| 04:49.42 | cursor | South of England |
| 04:49.45 | pygrammer | haha |
| 04:49.47 | Hogie | oh, even worse |
| 04:49.51 | cursor | London |
| 04:50.27 | Hogie | damn, Im scared |
| 04:50.40 | pygrammer | Blaspheme thou Englander! |
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| 04:50.57 | Hogie | The runway will be re-striped early next week. When this happens, all takeoff and landing operations will be performed on the taxiway. No touch and goes allowed. Please check NOTAMS. |
| 04:51.04 | Hogie | damn |
| 04:51.06 | pygrammer | ?? |
| 04:51.09 | pygrammer | what airport? |
| 04:51.11 | Hogie | I dont wanna land/takeoff from the taxiway next week |
| 04:51.13 | Hogie | KGPM |
| 04:51.17 | pygrammer | ? |
| 04:51.19 | pygrammer | which is that? |
| 04:51.26 | Hogie | the one I do my flight training at |
| 04:51.28 | Hogie | lol |
| 04:51.40 | pygrammer | oh, someone's a pilot :) |
| 04:51.45 | pygrammer | what ranking? |
| 04:51.52 | pygrammer | err cert |
| 04:51.54 | Hogie | Student;) |
| 04:52.00 | pygrammer | so you're going for private |
| 04:52.09 | Hogie | for now |
| 04:52.19 | pygrammer | Hogie, go all the way |
| 04:52.24 | Hogie | there |
| 04:52.24 | pygrammer | ATC |
| 04:52.25 | Hogie | went all the way |
| 04:52.31 | pygrammer | airline transport |
| 04:52.35 | Hogie | why? |
| 04:52.39 | pygrammer | just for fun |
| 04:52.41 | Hogie | I have a shitty job in IT |
| 04:52.41 | pygrammer | fly some 737s |
| 04:52.47 | Hogie | why would I wanna leave? |
| 04:52.47 | pygrammer | crash some planes |
| 04:52.51 | Hogie | I do that already |
| 04:52.52 | pygrammer | err |
| 04:53.00 | pygrammer | into... some... buildings... |
| 04:53.11 | pygrammer | you're not a terrorist, are you? |
| 04:53.13 | cursor | Ask your instructor to show you how to fly but not how to land and see what he says :-) |
| 04:53.35 | pygrammer | Hogie, are you a Muslim extremist from Saudi Arabia? You can tell me; don't worry, I won't tell. :) |
| 04:53.36 | Hogie | I already know how to land, im past solo |
| 04:53.43 | Hogie | http://gallery.cyberjunky.net/airplane_crashes/DVC00212 |
| 04:53.47 | Hogie | that's the type of crashing I do |
| 04:54.07 | surfdue | ok |
| 04:54.08 | surfdue | anyone |
| 04:54.10 | Hogie | http://gallery.cyberjunky.net/airplane_crashes/DVC00211 |
| 04:54.10 | pygrammer | OMG you wrecked an RC plane!!!1?!!?!? |
| 04:54.12 | Hogie | hah |
| 04:54.16 | surfdue | does anyone know how to fix the crackling |
| 04:54.19 | surfdue | its one way |
| 04:54.30 | cursor | haha |
| 04:54.36 | pygrammer | HAHAHA |
| 04:54.40 | pygrammer | rofl |
| 04:54.49 | nick125 | surfdue: did you answer what krisguy asked earlier |
| 04:54.51 | cursor | I learn fly plan in cha allah |
| 04:55.00 | pygrammer | "Allah come get me when he want me!" |
| 04:55.16 | Hogie | pygrammer: I didn't do that, Mike did (the one holding it)... He wasnt paying attention when he had it deadstick, and it went into a light post |
| 04:55.20 | DarthClue | "Allah Show How Land" |
| 04:55.23 | pygrammer | "I go to Heaven and fuck 72 virgins!" |
| 04:55.32 | surfdue | no |
| 04:55.34 | surfdue | what did he ask |
| 04:55.35 | cursor | Why land when you can take the stairs |
| 04:55.46 | nick125 | <krisguy> most crackles are usually either bad headset/soundcard or the codec is taking too much memory or too many cycles |
| 04:55.50 | nick125 | <krisguy> how much ram and what proc? |
| 04:56.02 | Hogie | http://gallery.cyberjunky.net/crashes/DVC00377 |
| 04:56.02 | pygrammer | Hogie, i've always wanted a rc plane |
| 04:56.07 | pygrammer | there's this whole set for like $40 |
| 04:56.08 | pygrammer | a starter set |
| 04:56.12 | bkw__ | asdfffffffffdsa |
| 04:56.14 | Hogie | um, eletric? |
| 04:56.14 | pygrammer | dream-something |
| 04:56.15 | Hogie | lol |
| 04:56.17 | bkw__ | POOSE MENIS |
| 04:56.19 | DarthClue | Netgeeks: You mean that I just made the Black Van disappear, right? And if any of you say a word about this, I'll have someone pay you a visit. |
| 04:56.27 | Netgeeks | hah |
| 04:56.34 | Hogie | http://gallery.cyberjunky.net/funtana_with_cowling/pics_Dec_23_Funtana_001 |
| 04:56.35 | DarthClue | bkw__: drink more. It's MOOSE PENIS!!! |
| 04:56.36 | pygrammer | OMFG the best song in the world -- FLEETWOOD MAC |
| 04:56.38 | Hogie | that's my airplane |
| 04:56.42 | nick125 | DarthClue: lol |
| 04:56.42 | Hogie | (model) |
| 04:56.43 | Hogie | that I fly |
| 04:57.04 | surfdue | krisguy u there |
| 04:57.07 | surfdue | nick |
| 04:57.07 | Netgeeks | Fleetwood Mac is a group... I take it you were referring to one song from them and not a song named after them? ;) |
| 04:57.09 | cursor | Type this at a shell prompt: |
| 04:57.10 | cursor | perl -le 'print "Asterisk!!!" ^qq^\f\034\033\026\027I#\016OHR^' |
| 04:57.10 | surfdue | i have 1 gb ram |
| 04:57.18 | nick125 | surfdue: ...and? |
| 04:57.18 | pygrammer | Netgeeks, Dreams |
| 04:57.19 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:57.21 | pygrammer | is the song |
| 04:57.29 | Netgeeks | ah, I prefer Landslide from them |
| 04:57.30 | pygrammer | i'm too drunk on life to type right ;) |
| 04:57.32 | Hogie | nick125: 486sx25 |
| 04:57.47 | nick125 | oh, that would explain the problem then |
| 04:57.57 | nick125 | how do you get 1g on a 486sx25? |
| 04:58.06 | nick125 | maybe a big hd and swap :P |
| 04:58.17 | Hogie | Im an eletrical engineer |
| 04:58.21 | Hogie | and I make my own motherboards |
| 04:58.25 | pygrammer | Hogie, that's fucking huge |
| 04:58.29 | cursor | solid-state hard disk |
| 04:58.33 | pygrammer | can you fit inside? |
| 04:58.33 | pygrammer | :) |
| 04:58.36 | nick125 | lol |
| 04:58.42 | Hogie | no pygrammer... |
| 04:58.43 | Hogie | but |
| 04:58.46 | Hogie | sec, let me find the link |
| 04:58.48 | nick125 | close? :P |
| 04:58.48 | Hogie | you will cry |
| 04:59.01 | pygrammer | rofl |
| 04:59.07 | pygrammer | DarthClue: any kids gone Columbine yet? |
| 04:59.14 | nick125 | DarthClue: lol |
| 04:59.20 | *** join/#asterisk blitzrage (n=blitzrag@asterisk/documenteur-extraordinaire/blitzrage) |
| 04:59.47 | cursor | DarthClue: In IRC, nobody can hear you scream. |
| 04:59.54 | surfdue | huh |
| 04:59.56 | pygrammer | some kid stabbed someone at a school in the county |
| 04:59.57 | surfdue | im so confused |
| 05:00.01 | surfdue | how can i have 1 gb ram? |
| 05:00.02 | blitzrage | zup |
| 05:00.04 | pygrammer | that's about as close as we've gotten to a repeat of Columbine |
| 05:00.13 | surfdue | lol what did u ask me nick |
| 05:00.14 | Hogie | http://www.desertaircraft.com/shootout_2004/view.php?Path=images/FourMinute&RecordNum=tas2004_289.jpg&Album=17 |
| 05:00.16 | surfdue | easy buy it. |
| 05:00.16 | surfdue | lol |
| 05:00.18 | pygrammer | i was loading up my AR-15 at the time |
| 05:00.20 | Hogie | and that's a "small" one |
| 05:00.24 | nick125 | surfdue: what freaking cpu? |
| 05:00.30 | surfdue | sempron |
| 05:00.30 | DarthClue | pygrammer: i have an imposing figure and voice, most kids sit down and shut-up when i tell them to. |
| 05:00.36 | cursor | Zilog Z80 |
| 05:00.37 | surfdue | 2600 |
| 05:00.52 | nick125 | sound card> |
| 05:00.53 | nick125 | ? |
| 05:00.56 | surfdue | none. |
| 05:00.58 | surfdue | motherboard |
| 05:01.01 | pygrammer | DarthClue: try telling that to a kid with a sawed-off 10-gauge :) |
| 05:01.03 | Hogie | http://scooterscum.com/gallery/album02/100_3153 |
| 05:01.15 | Hogie | he's got a dual cylinder 150cc engine in it |
| 05:01.18 | pygrammer | Hogie: fucking huge |
| 05:01.40 | cursor | That plane's a load of bull |
| 05:01.48 | pygrammer | haha |
| 05:02.13 | cursor | You could bully the smaller planes with that |
| 05:02.21 | pygrammer | Hit 'em down |
| 05:02.23 | pygrammer | have a WWII dogfight |
| 05:02.26 | cursor | They could use your wings as landing strips |
| 05:02.32 | Hogie | hah |
| 05:02.39 | pygrammer | have a Nerf war in the air |
| 05:02.42 | cursor | Airborne aircraft carrier |
| 05:02.48 | Hogie | http://scooterscum.com/gallery/album02/100_3180 |
| 05:02.51 | Hogie | that's him starting it |
| 05:02.56 | Hogie | notice, it takes 2 people to hold it? |
| 05:03.11 | nick125 | wth |
| 05:03.18 | nick125 | now my hold music skips major |
| 05:03.21 | cursor | You could make it slightly bigger and get in it |
| 05:03.36 | cursor | Sit in the cockpit with the RC transmitter |
| 05:03.50 | nick125 | 19535 nick 16 0 174m 23m 10m S 0.3 2.3 0:09.12 xtensoftphone |
| 05:03.52 | pygrammer | good practice for the real thing :) |
| 05:03.52 | Hogie | hah |
| 05:03.52 | nick125 | err |
| 05:04.00 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.02 | nick125 | 19535 nick 16 0 174m 23m 10m S 0.3 2.3 0:09.12 xtensoftphone |
| 05:04.06 | pygrammer | Hogie, have you ever done "reconnaisance?" |
| 05:04.11 | Hogie | no |
| 05:04.13 | nick125 | i wonder if its the client or the asterisk |
| 05:04.15 | pygrammer | damn |
| 05:04.25 | pygrammer | you're not a 1337 spy? |
| 05:04.41 | cursor | Fit a camera and sell your pictures to Google maps |
| 05:04.49 | Hogie | actually... |
| 05:04.50 | pygrammer | yeah, go to Area 51 |
| 05:04.50 | DarthClue | pygrammer: if he was, do you honestly think he would tell us? |
| 05:04.51 | Hogie | I kinda am I spy |
| 05:04.52 | pygrammer | :) |
| 05:05.00 | pygrammer | Take it to Area-51, baby! |
| 05:05.03 | nick125 | grr |
| 05:05.07 | Hogie | http://gallery.cyberjunky.net/August18Solo/P0000460 |
| 05:05.12 | Hogie | that's a model rc field |
| 05:05.16 | DarthClue | no, no. Area 53 has better stuff. |
| 05:05.21 | nick125 | now, it plays for maybe 4 seconds, stops, and wont start until i press a button |
| 05:05.22 | Hogie | that is "member by invitation only" |
| 05:05.29 | pygrammer | Hogie, nice picture |
| 05:05.31 | Hogie | and I flew over it last thursday |
| 05:05.33 | Hogie | and took a pic |
| 05:05.34 | Hogie | hah |
| 05:05.38 | pygrammer | DarthClue, i'm not up on the latest secret governmental installations |
| 05:06.06 | nick125 | is there a way i can make mpg123 use less cpu? |
| 05:06.07 | DarthClue | pygrammer: I know nothing. |
| 05:06.16 | cursor | http://www.siliconbeat.com/entries/2005/05/27/google_maps_stealth_bomber.html |
| 05:06.20 | mutilator | o_O |
| 05:06.38 | nick125 | its using 17% |
| 05:06.40 | nick125 | :/ |
| 05:06.52 | pygrammer | o_0 is right |
| 05:07.10 | pygrammer | the B-2? |
| 05:07.17 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:07.19 | nick125 | root 30668 16.7 0.6 5488 3128 ? S 23:05 0:01 mpg123 -q -s --mono -r 8000 -b 2048 -f 4096 fpm-calm-river.mp3 TristeAlegriaPromo.mp3 QuajiroPromo.mp3 fpm-world-mix.mp3 fpm-sunshine.mp3 |
| 05:07.31 | nick125 | bleh wrong key heh |
| 05:07.43 | nick125 | USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND |
| 05:07.45 | nick125 | root 30668 16.7 0.6 5488 3128 ? S 23:05 0:01 mpg123 -q -s --mono -r 8000 -b 2048 -f 4096 fpm-calm-river.mp3 TristeAlegriaPromo.mp3 QuajiroPromo.mp3 fpm-world-mix.mp3 fpm-sunshine.mp3 |
| 05:07.55 | DarthClue | i saw 2 of those landing at the local airport shortly after 9/11. |
| 05:08.04 | DarthClue | ~pastebin |
| 05:08.04 | jbot | it has been said that pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 05:08.15 | pygrammer | Posted by: Alex4 on May 27, 2005 10:31 AM |
| 05:08.15 | pygrammer | 'Times of terror?' Ten times as many people die in highway accidents each year as were killed on 9/11. What did the Anthrax do? Nine people dead. Please don't help push -- the PATRIOT slope is slippery enough as it is. |
| 05:08.21 | pygrammer | ^^ tru dat |
| 05:08.28 | pygrammer | ('scuse my ebonics) |
| 05:08.33 | *** join/#asterisk jimmy_deanPB (n=jhodapp@cpe-71-65-37-102.indy.res.rr.com) |
| 05:09.12 | cursor | The Patriot act doesn't apply to me |
| 05:09.12 | Hogie | nick125: get a quad opteron 275... that will fix your problem |
| 05:09.44 | nick125 | a quad opteron wont fix the problem of no freaking money |
| 05:09.45 | nick125 | lol |
| 05:09.48 | *** join/#asterisk brc_ (n=brc_@pdpc/supporter/basic/brc) |
| 05:10.18 | Hogie | quad dualcore opteron |
| 05:10.19 | Hogie | ;) |
| 05:10.39 | h3x | jesus |
| 05:10.48 | pygrammer | cursor, but england is on a slippery slope, too |
| 05:10.51 | brc_ | http://doubleedgefilms.com/spin/player.html |
| 05:10.55 | h3x | you would have to put it inside your refrigerator to run it |
| 05:11.01 | h3x | maybe feed it dry ice |
| 05:11.04 | Netgeeks | um, you can only do dual 275's not quad (although dual 275s is 4 procs) |
| 05:11.04 | h3x | -174oF |
| 05:11.06 | pygrammer | hmm, i do remember something about British cops shooting an innocent, unarmed man four times in the head |
| 05:11.08 | *** join/#asterisk emp (n=emp@70.57.239.37) |
| 05:11.15 | Hogie | h3x: subzero |
| 05:11.15 | cursor | Probably not quite as slippery |
| 05:11.17 | pygrammer | or was that just a dream :) |
| 05:11.27 | nick125 | anyway i can do it without getting a new box? |
| 05:11.33 | pygrammer | cursor, oh, ok |
| 05:11.38 | nick125 | i tried the tricking asterisk into using wavs, it didnt work |
| 05:11.39 | pygrammer | not as slippery |
| 05:11.45 | nick125 | i got nothing |
| 05:11.46 | h3x | and a three phase power supplyt |
| 05:11.58 | emp | I just installed AMP from scratch, it does not seem to update the conf files like it should, I checked the file permissions and they look ok, are there any logs or other settings I should check? |
| 05:12.06 | pygrammer | oh god -- AMP |
| 05:12.08 | Hogie | nick: you are running asterisk on the same box as the X session? |
| 05:12.09 | pygrammer | the worst program in the world |
| 05:12.23 | nick125 | Hogie: nope, no x on the box |
| 05:12.36 | emp | It worked ok when I tried out *@home :) |
| 05:12.39 | Hogie | pygrammer: there's another one |
| 05:12.45 | Hogie | pygrammer: Microsoft Bob |
| 05:12.50 | h3x | nop |
| 05:12.51 | pygrammer | emp: *@Home sucks |
| 05:12.57 | h3x | microsoft MS-DOS |
| 05:13.07 | Hogie | ms dos never bluescreened on me |
| 05:13.14 | pygrammer | Microsoft Windows? |
| 05:13.15 | cursor | Who was the person on the mail list who wanted to run Asterisk in a phone? |
| 05:13.15 | Hogie | when I removed a usb device |
| 05:13.16 | pygrammer | perhaps that's worse |
| 05:13.18 | emp | pygrammer, I'm trying to go less sucky |
| 05:13.33 | pygrammer | cursor: ?!?!?!? HAHAHA |
| 05:13.50 | Hogie | yeah, when is asterisk gonna be ported to my 7960? |
| 05:13.58 | blitzrage | :) |
| 05:14.14 | pygrammer | emp: well, it's less sucky, true |
| 05:14.22 | pygrammer | but it's easy enough to do things yourself, and you'll learn more |
| 05:15.12 | Hogie | I want asterisk on my dreamcast |
| 05:15.23 | pygrammer | I want asterisk on my commodore |
| 05:15.37 | nick125 | I want asterisk on my thumbnail |
| 05:15.37 | DarthClue | er, i mean, they run clients not *. |
| 05:15.38 | pygrammer | nah, i'm too young for commodores :( |
| 05:16.15 | blitzrage | what?! |
| 05:16.22 | blitzrage | pygrammer: how old are you? |
| 05:16.25 | Hogie | blitz: he's 13, leave him alone |
| 05:16.28 | pygrammer | haha |
| 05:16.31 | blitzrage | oh, well that makes sense :) |
| 05:16.33 | pygrammer | nah |
| 05:16.37 | pygrammer | 1989 :) |
| 05:16.37 | blitzrage | 14400! |
| 05:16.42 | blitzrage | wow! |
| 05:16.52 | pygrammer | (oct) |
| 05:17.06 | blitzrage | 1981 here - I was using commodores in grade 2 - the only one who knew how to use them. I was teaching the teachers how to use them |
| 05:17.16 | Hogie | w t f |
| 05:17.21 | pygrammer | hahah |
| 05:17.29 | blitzrage | true story |
| 05:17.35 | pygrammer | i taught my teacher how to type in 2nd grade |
| 05:17.36 | blitzrage | hogie: you are :) |
| 05:17.46 | pygrammer | by then, i was typing 35 wpm |
| 05:17.54 | pygrammer | quite the little typer was I' |
| 05:17.55 | pygrammer | :) |
| 05:18.01 | Hogie | pygrammer: you are still in high school, right? |
| 05:18.08 | pygrammer | pygrammer: 11th grade this coming year |
| 05:18.40 | Hogie | blitz was class 2000 (well, my brother was born in 81, and he was class of 2000) |
| 05:18.46 | Hogie | and I was '98 |
| 05:18.47 | Hogie | :\ |
| 05:19.09 | pygrammer | it's always a surprise when i tell people my age... as though i shouldn't be here :) |
| 05:19.27 | pygrammer | haha, you should see me on this one bulletin board |
| 05:19.30 | Hogie | no, you just dont act like the other high school students I see |
| 05:19.33 | Hogie | on irc |
| 05:19.41 | pygrammer | these 55-year-olds can't argue politics with me |
| 05:20.07 | Hogie | okay, question, if anybody knows, are modchips (for xboxes) illegal? |
| 05:20.15 | Hogie | (in US) |
| 05:20.18 | pygrammer | no |
| 05:20.27 | pygrammer | how the fuck would MS enforce that? |
| 05:20.28 | DarthClue | pygrammer: did your legal guardian sign the wiaver? if not, we need you to leave. ;) |
| 05:20.40 | pygrammer | DarthClue, yeah, we sent it last night together |
| 05:20.42 | pygrammer | it was a joint effort :) |
| 05:21.02 | DarthClue | Hogie: i think they are, but your chance of getting busted for it is pretty slim. |
| 05:21.15 | pygrammer | the worst they'd do is put you on a guilt trip for that |
| 05:21.18 | pygrammer | like if you call them for support |
| 05:21.42 | pygrammer | "we don't support mod chips. Thanks, bye." |
| 05:21.50 | Hogie | DarthClue: how, if you aren't using a MS based bios? |
| 05:22.42 | Hogie | http://pastebin.com/342061 <-- example of a 13 year old on IRC... |
| 05:22.43 | Hogie | lol |
| 05:22.55 | Hogie | when said "Show me the law" |
| 05:23.01 | Hogie | he misteriously ping timed out |
| 05:23.07 | *** join/#asterisk Umaro (n=omgomg@c-67-171-189-136.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 05:23.16 | blitzrage | hogie: maybe gray market.. |
| 05:23.58 | pygrammer | HAHHHH |
| 05:24.01 | pygrammer | Hogie: I know that kid |
| 05:24.04 | pygrammer | ROFL! |
| 05:24.06 | pygrammer | <Kiko0123> it is still microsoft propritaty |
| 05:24.06 | DarthClue | Hogie: well, it would depend on the purpose of the mod chip and whether or not the hardware was patented under some strange method or something of that nature. |
| 05:24.13 | pygrammer | propritaty?????? |
| 05:24.24 | nick125 | lol |
| 05:24.30 | pygrammer | he's from France |
| 05:24.34 | pygrammer | was he here, in #asterisk |
| 05:24.36 | pygrammer | *? |
| 05:24.37 | nick125 | least when i attempt to spell, i least try to get it half correct |
| 05:24.45 | nick125 | proprietary :P |
| 05:24.55 | Hogie | he's from canada |
| 05:25.00 | nick125 | yay i think i spelt it right |
| 05:25.01 | Hogie | and he is egyptian |
| 05:25.26 | pygrammer | no, i think he's from france |
| 05:25.30 | Hogie | he's from Egypt |
| 05:25.34 | Hogie | trust me |
| 05:25.36 | pygrammer | but i mean, he lives in France |
| 05:25.37 | Hogie | he points it out |
| 05:25.42 | Hogie | no, he's in canada |
| 05:25.43 | surfdue | night |
| 05:25.47 | pygrammer | hmm |
| 05:25.48 | cursor | Most Egyptians are from Egypt |
| 05:25.49 | surfdue | nick please try to find an sip client |
| 05:25.50 | pygrammer | maybe he lied to me |
| 05:25.55 | surfdue | im getting an sip phone soon |
| 05:25.55 | surfdue | so |
| 05:25.56 | surfdue | :P |
| 05:25.57 | surfdue | :) |
| 05:25.59 | Hogie | | Kiko0123 was (Karim@modemcable011.72-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 05:26.27 | pygrammer | Hogie, I remember him from a Counter-Strike clan I used to play in.... what are the odds I'd hear of or see him again? Wow. |
| 05:26.36 | pygrammer | It's unmistakeably him. |
| 05:26.42 | Hogie | lol |
| 05:26.51 | pygrammer | his arrogant attitude pervades his soul |
| 05:27.18 | Hogie | I say something about arabs, and he calls me a racist |
| 05:27.23 | pygrammer | haha |
| 05:27.31 | pygrammer | call him a suicide bomber, for all I care |
| 05:27.33 | DarthClue | Hogie: are you white? |
| 05:27.37 | Hogie | even when I have it broken down to like "those arabs that flew airplanes into the twin towers" |
| 05:27.39 | Hogie | he calls me racist |
| 05:27.49 | pygrammer | well, that is sort of racist ... :) |
| 05:27.57 | pygrammer | the implication |
| 05:28.10 | pygrammer | but, he starts something at any and every opportunity, so don't sweat it |
| 05:28.15 | Hogie | I could have said "All towelheads are terrorists" |
| 05:28.21 | pygrammer | haha |
| 05:28.34 | DarthClue | The simple mans racism test ... Q1: Are you white? ... Yes - Then you be racist ... No - 50/50 chance. |
| 05:28.36 | cursor | Unless they are just drying their hair |
| 05:28.58 | Hogie | lol cursor |
| 05:29.01 | pygrammer | cursor: towelheads' hair is always et |
| 05:29.02 | pygrammer | *wet |
| 05:29.18 | cursor | I see the USA has stopped its state sponsorship of the IRA |
| 05:29.18 | Hogie | I was thinkign of wrapping a towel around my head for my last solo |
| 05:29.30 | cursor | That's nice of it |
| 05:29.42 | nick125 | do i have to open any special ports if a client wants to use iax2 instead of sip? |
| 05:30.04 | Hogie | cursor: I live in HogieLand... Good thing I dont live in the United States |
| 05:30.13 | cursor | haha |
| 05:30.24 | cursor | nick125: 4569/udp |
| 05:30.28 | pygrammer | Hogie, who'd you vote for last election? |
| 05:30.36 | nick125 | cursor: ah thought so |
| 05:30.39 | Hogie | all 650sqft of HogieLand is sponsorship free of the IRA, SBA, QQ&A, BBF, Software Patents, and Anal probes |
| 05:30.45 | nick125 | lol |
| 05:30.56 | Hogie | pygrammer: I wrote myself in |
| 05:31.02 | pygrammer | Ah, good choice. |
| 05:31.03 | *** join/#asterisk PG3 (i=cyberswo@nl128.globalpc.net) |
| 05:31.09 | pygrammer | Should have written in the Libertarian :) |
| 05:31.10 | nick125 | lol |
| 05:31.16 | PG3 | hi, why external users cant log into my pbx? |
| 05:31.25 | Hogie | cause its firewalled |
| 05:31.28 | pygrammer | lol |
| 05:31.41 | Hogie | 2 smirnoffs down, 4 to go |
| 05:31.52 | PG3 | but is asterisk the program that say ey no here no |
| 05:31.58 | pygrammer | ???????? |
| 05:31.59 | PG3 | i put sip debug and say forbidden |
| 05:32.09 | PG3 | and i dont know why |
| 05:32.15 | pygrammer | i had that problem |
| 05:32.22 | pygrammer | haha |
| 05:32.28 | PG3 | and how did u fix it? |
| 05:32.37 | pygrammer | check your register string details, check that you're not firewalled, check that your config is ok |
| 05:32.44 | pygrammer | and you should be good to go |
| 05:32.48 | PG3 | all is good |
| 05:32.51 | pygrammer | the last one is kind of a catch-all :D |
| 05:32.53 | PG3 | i put the ip of the client |
| 05:33.08 | pygrammer | have you fulfilled requirement #3? |
| 05:33.16 | PG3 | w? |
| 05:33.20 | pygrammer | w? |
| 05:33.24 | Hogie | Reading the docs? |
| 05:33.29 | PG3 | o yea |
| 05:33.31 | PG3 | i read the docs |
| 05:33.42 | pygrammer | by any chance, are you using stanaphone? |
| 05:33.53 | PG3 | i am using xlite |
| 05:33.55 | Hogie | did you goto your shell and type: help asterisk |
| 05:33.56 | Hogie | ? |
| 05:34.01 | pygrammer | for incoming calls ... |
| 05:34.05 | pygrammer | because if you are, look on their forums; they have a good solution |
| 05:34.10 | pygrammer | cursor: i use 'em |
| 05:34.12 | pygrammer | free NYC number |
| 05:34.17 | pygrammer | free incoming |
| 05:34.19 | cursor | The cancel your account if you don't make a call each month |
| 05:34.19 | pygrammer | don't use them for outgoing |
| 05:34.21 | PG3 | okey i will look in forums |
| 05:34.21 | PG3 | xD |
| 05:34.29 | PG3 | i only read the documentations |
| 05:34.38 | cursor | so my account and number got cancelled without notice |
| 05:34.39 | Hogie | but not help asterisk |
| 05:34.39 | Hogie | ? |
| 05:34.47 | PG3 | nop that not |
| 05:34.51 | pygrammer | so basically free PSTN number and 1.1cents outgoing via Voxee |
| 05:34.56 | cursor | So, make sure you call yourself each month - put it in a cron job :-) |
| 05:34.59 | pygrammer | and a free $1.00 credit (90.9) mins with Voxee :) |
| 05:35.08 | pygrammer | (90.9 mins) * |
| 05:35.16 | PG3 | but i look in wiki |
| 05:35.17 | nick125 | lol |
| 05:35.20 | Hogie | lol |
| 05:35.20 | nick125 | cronjob...lol |
| 05:35.23 | pygrammer | haha |
| 05:35.36 | Hogie | I get free calls to anywhere in the world at my house |
| 05:35.37 | Hogie | its great |
| 05:35.37 | pygrammer | PG3, where are you from? |
| 05:35.48 | Hogie | (PSTN destinations) |
| 05:35.58 | pygrammer | Hogie: how do you figuurrr |
| 05:36.05 | pygrammer | dur |
| 05:36.36 | pygrammer | Gitmo |
| 05:36.46 | Hogie | I have a barbietone at home, that's hooked up via ipsec to the office * box, inwhich I can call out of, and I have a crontab that deletes all cdr's from our db with an originating extension number of my extension |
| 05:36.49 | pygrammer | Hogie's goin' to Gitmo. |
| 05:37.01 | *** join/#asterisk cybersword (n=cyberswo@cablec4mcg.cybercable.net.mx) |
| 05:37.04 | cybersword | i am from MExico |
| 05:37.04 | cybersword | mexico |
| 05:37.11 | Hogie | I am from HogieLand |
| 05:37.13 | pygrammer | Hogie, haha |
| 05:37.13 | cybersword | i am pg3 |
| 05:37.14 | cursor | Hogie: haha |
| 05:37.14 | cybersword | xD |
| 05:37.27 | pygrammer | Hola cybersword |
| 05:37.30 | cybersword | sorry i change my internet access |
| 05:37.32 | cybersword | hola |
| 05:37.33 | cybersword | xD |
| 05:37.34 | pygrammer | Como estas amigo? |
| 05:37.36 | cybersword | bien |
| 05:37.37 | pygrammer | I speak Spanish. |
| 05:37.41 | Hogie | its funny too, cause when I call an extension at one of the offices |
| 05:37.42 | cybersword | so ayudame 911 |
| 05:37.43 | cybersword | xD |
| 05:37.45 | Hogie | it shows up as "Extension 500" |
| 05:37.52 | Hogie | but you have to dial 199 to get it to dial here |
| 05:37.56 | pygrammer | no te puedo ayudar... estoy cansado :( |
| 05:40.05 | nick125 | damn |
| 05:40.17 | nick125 | aint voip-info really slow for anyone here? |
| 05:40.32 | clyrrad | yes its been slow for me all day |
| 05:40.35 | Hogie | all the time |
| 05:40.46 | Hogie | I guess I need to reboot the 486sx25 its on |
| 05:41.12 | nick125 | rofl |
| 05:42.23 | clyrrad | nick125.... still compling the kernel source hahaha is this dedication or what? :P |
| 05:42.33 | nick125 | lol |
| 05:42.59 | nick125 | Hogie: i thought it was one of those home made cpus that do 5mhz |
| 05:43.14 | clyrrad | running top waiting / praying to make to get out of the list of processes LOL |
| 05:44.48 | clyrrad | wouldnt it be funny if after all this zaptel still wont compile hehe |
| 05:45.02 | nick125 | no, it would be typical |
| 05:45.05 | nick125 | lol |
| 05:45.10 | clyrrad | hahahahha |
| 05:45.48 | cursor | 6:45am |
| 05:45.55 | zed_bed | so it is |
| 05:46.06 | nick125 | its only 11:45pm here |
| 05:46.33 | cursor | As any cursor should be |
| 05:46.36 | JerJer | its already tomorrow here |
| 05:46.37 | cybersword | here 1 hour more |
| 05:46.49 | nick125 | now im ahead of cursor |
| 05:46.53 | cursor | bah! |
| 05:47.02 | Hogie | jerjer: ever landed on a taxiway? |
| 05:47.25 | zedkatuf | Can anyone help: my handytone 486 is accessible via touchtone (ie *** ), but I can't get access to the webpage...I suspect a semi-borked firmware upgrade at some point... |
| 05:48.04 | zedkatuf | ..I'm stuck until I can see the webpage as I can't configure SIP server, extension etc |
| 05:48.11 | JerJer | Hogie: nope - don't tell me you have |
| 05:48.21 | cursor | I don't have one of those devices, but I think you can set the IP address using the tones |
| 05:48.28 | Hogie | JerJer: check this out... |
| 05:48.28 | Hogie | The runway will be re-striped early next week. When this happens, all takeoff and landing operations will be performed on the taxiway. No touch and goes allowed. Please check NOTAMS. |
| 05:48.40 | JerJer | sweeet ! |
| 05:48.58 | JerJer | that would be a nice log entry |
| 05:49.07 | Hogie | I dunno if I wanna go ahead and have my flight lesson |
| 05:49.10 | Hogie | or wait |
| 05:49.11 | JerJer | "student performed landing on taxi way due to NOTAM" |
| 05:49.29 | Hogie | na, next lesson is short/soft field landings |
| 05:49.43 | cursor | Land in the car park :-) |
| 05:49.49 | Hogie | we will just goto arlington or midway |
| 05:49.58 | *** join/#asterisk cuga (n=cuga@CPE0000d11fb269-CM0012c92137d6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 05:50.01 | Hogie | since they are 3nm and 15nm away |
| 05:50.16 | cursor | nanometers |
| 05:50.26 | JerJer | nautical miles yo |
| 05:50.29 | Hogie | hah |
| 05:50.30 | cursor | I know :-) |
| 05:50.46 | JerJer | 1.1513 statue miles |
| 05:50.50 | cursor | right |
| 05:50.56 | Hogie | how many feet? |
| 05:51.05 | cursor | Just use KM |
| 05:51.17 | cursor | Two feet |
| 05:51.19 | cursor | Two hands |
| 05:51.29 | nick125 | i hate idiots that cant make correct ebuilds |
| 05:51.31 | JerJer | of course that is at the equator |
| 05:51.32 | Qwell | lets weigh things in stones too |
| 05:52.04 | cursor | Stoneage measurements |
| 05:52.33 | Hogie | JerJer: I'll move up there and work for you for flight lessons, ok? |
| 05:52.56 | JerJer | lets measure everything in fathoms and leagues |
| 05:53.21 | Qwell | I fathom that leagues won't be accepted by the league of standards |
| 05:53.31 | JerJer | lol |
| 05:53.34 | cursor | :-) |
| 05:54.08 | *** join/#asterisk oi (n=oi@208.157.151.120) |
| 05:54.26 | clyrrad | nick125... you like to gamble? Whats your bet? Zaptel compiles or does not compile? hahahah |
| 05:54.29 | Hogie | is it scarey when your flight instructor says "damn this weather, it made me miss a good night to drink" when we have to cancel a flight cause the ceiling is too low? |
| 05:56.41 | JerJer | FAA states that instructors cannot drink for 12 hours prior to instructing |
| 05:56.50 | JerJer | zero tolerance |
| 05:57.23 | *** join/#asterisk kswail (n=kyndar@modemcable244.73-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 05:57.42 | cursor | They must be thirsty then |
| 05:57.46 | Hogie | hahah |
| 05:57.50 | Hogie | that's wht I was thinking |
| 05:58.02 | cursor | Can they put milk in their breakfast cerial? |
| 05:58.40 | Hogie | I think JerJer is going to leave now cause we are being funny |
| 05:58.49 | cursor | aaaw |
| 06:01.21 | Hogie | I dont think im gonna make my quota tonight:( |
| 06:04.45 | cursor | Quota of what? |
| 06:04.51 | Hogie | beers |
| 06:04.57 | Hogie | I ate too many hotwings, and now im full |
| 06:05.12 | Hogie | only 2.666666666666666666666666666666666666666 smirnoffs drunken |
| 06:05.25 | Qwell | funny story... |
| 06:05.39 | cursor | I just hope you're not muching on JerJer's airplane |
| 06:05.39 | DarthClue | hotwing = chicken |
| 06:05.48 | Qwell | a couple of friends and I went up a mountain, and we pulled off to have a few beers (smirnoffs) |
| 06:05.50 | Hogie | www.wingstop.com |
| 06:06.04 | Qwell | about 45 minutes in, some cops stopped, and came up to us... |
| 06:06.17 | cursor | That looks horrible |
| 06:06.43 | Qwell | they see the bottles of smirnoff, and (shocked) asked my friend if he drank both full bottles |
| 06:06.55 | Qwell | cop thought they were hard liquor, or some such... |
| 06:06.57 | Hogie | atomic... the only food that burns more coming out than going in |
| 06:07.39 | Hogie | I know, it takes me a 6 pack + shots to get where I'll do this: |
| 06:07.54 | Hogie | http://www.dfwgroup.com/images/hh/6.13.05%20085.jpg |
| 06:08.35 | Qwell | ok, not so funny...you had to have been there, I guess |
| 06:08.48 | Hogie | Qwell: would have been funny if.... |
| 06:08.50 | Hogie | he said yes |
| 06:08.52 | Hogie | then went and drove off |
| 06:08.53 | Hogie | :P |
| 06:08.55 | Qwell | Hogie: heh |
| 06:09.30 | Qwell | it was weird...I had one and a half (24s?), and I'm kinda a lightweight |
| 06:09.36 | DarthClue | Hogie: pink really is your color. |
| 06:09.41 | Qwell | cop tested him, said he couldn't drive, then tested me, and said I could |
| 06:09.44 | Hogie | I bought a purse^H^H^H^H^Hflight bag that color |
| 06:10.32 | DarthClue | gnight all. i need to sleep now. |
| 06:10.39 | cursor | Sleep is for the weak |
| 06:10.45 | Qwell | DarthClue == weak |
| 06:11.19 | Qwell | indeed |
| 06:11.20 | Qwell | nothing new |
| 06:11.30 | Hogie | I realized today, that not having a credit card is a good thing, or else I would ahve bought: 1x xbox mod chip, 1x RCA to VGA converter box, 2x porn site logins, couple computer games, and 2 sticks of ram for my laptop |
| 06:11.46 | Qwell | how is buying those bad? |
| 06:11.59 | Hogie | I'd rather spend that money on flying |
| 06:12.08 | DarthClue | Qwell: can i have your address? I'd like to deliver a bus into your living room. |
| 06:12.09 | Hogie | so I can get my private license, and actually take people with me flying |
| 06:12.15 | Qwell | DarthClue: ;] |
| 06:12.41 | Hogie | its getting kinda boring flying over the Texas Toys R Us distro center |
| 06:12.45 | Hogie | over and over and over |
| 06:12.48 | DarthClue | I'll just say that "I Fell Asleep at the Wheel" |
| 06:13.05 | Qwell | DarthClue: you own a bus? |
| 06:13.28 | Hogie | bangbus! |
| 06:13.31 | DarthClue | Qwell: i drive one during the week. and i know where to get my hands on some older ones. |
| 06:13.58 | Hogie | Qwell: DarthClue drives school busses |
| 06:14.07 | Qwell | wtf |
| 06:14.33 | cursor | Ah - so that's how you managed to get so many people into cluecon in such a short amount of time |
| 06:14.55 | DarthClue | cursor: nah, that was just pure bribes. |
| 06:16.19 | *** join/#asterisk [Airwolf]_ (n=airwolf@243.158-183-adsl-pool.axelero.hu) |
| 06:16.33 | DarthClue | Qwell: I have many talents. |
| 06:16.42 | cursor | :-) |
| 06:17.32 | Hogie | anybody notice that there are stargate symbols on the boxart for World of Warcraft? |
| 06:18.18 | cursor | No - nobody would ever notice that sort of thing except you |
| 06:18.30 | cursor | perhaps they are arabic letters |
| 06:18.36 | cursor | open the box and see if it blows up |
| 06:18.38 | Qwell | or... |
| 06:18.43 | Qwell | maybe stargate stole the symbols |
| 06:19.07 | Hogie | or... maybe Stargate was out 6.5 years before WoW was? |
| 06:19.16 | Hogie | atleast the tv series was |
| 06:19.31 | cursor | You mean the Microsoft Stargate 1.1 XP Home Edition SP430? |
| 06:19.52 | Hogie | Anal Warts |
| 06:19.58 | cursor | ouch |
| 06:23.53 | *** join/#asterisk Inv_arp (i=junya@adsl-11-73-99.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 06:23.58 | Hogie | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/gaming/713e/ |
| 06:24.02 | Hogie | haha, must have that shirt |
| 06:27.52 | *** join/#asterisk tessier__ (n=treed@wsip-68-224-172-77.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 06:28.41 | *** join/#asterisk pc3 (n=pc3@001-777-097.area1.spcsdns.net) |
| 06:29.14 | pc3 | What is the most likely reason why I cna hear other people yet they can't hear me? |
| 06:29.19 | blitzrage | NAT! |
| 06:29.22 | pc3 | IT doesn't even seem to be sending data from the client to the sip server. |
| 06:29.30 | blitzrage | NAT! |
| 06:29.37 | pc3 | Neither side is natted, although the serverh as a firewall and 5060 was opened up. |
| 06:29.41 | pc3 | err, sip port. |
| 06:30.04 | blitzrage | pc3: SIP is just signalling - data/voice is on a separate port using RTP |
| 06:30.10 | cursor | Schizophrenia? |
| 06:30.18 | *** join/#asterisk HDG-laws|afk (n=yo@pcp05929647pcs.vnburn01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 06:30.18 | blitzrage | in Asterisk, default is 10000->20000 |
| 06:30.22 | pc3 | blitzrage - How is that socket opened and what port needs to be opened? |
| 06:30.27 | *** join/#asterisk mattindy77 (i=[U2FsdGV@tor/session/x-335cbc35bb5052d1) |
| 06:30.33 | blitzrage | Cisco 760 is 16385->38400 |
| 06:30.48 | pc3 | blitzrage - IS that incoming from client to sip serveR? |
| 06:30.51 | blitzrage | pc3: depends on the phone |
| 06:31.03 | HDG-laws|afk | Looks like someone with the same problems as me ;o |
| 06:31.43 | blitzrage | pc3: both directions - its bidirectional. SIP uses 5 ports per call. 1 signalling (5060) and 4 dynamic, RTP and RTCP in one direction, and RTP and RTCP in the other direction |
| 06:32.03 | blitzrage | FW or NAT blocking the connections is the reason for single audio direction |
| 06:32.14 | pc3 | blitzrage - But it's used without the server first sending a packet to open up a port in a nat/firewall? |
| 06:32.41 | HDG-laws|afk | 7960 behind nat can't hear calls but can make calls? |
| 06:32.43 | pc3 | blitzrage - Well, here's hte scoop. clinet = no nat. server = no nat, but firewalled. only incoming port htat is open is sip. all outgoing ports work fine (not firewalled). |
| 06:33.06 | *** part/#asterisk cuga (n=cuga@CPE0000d11fb269-CM0012c92137d6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 06:33.09 | blitzrage | exactly - you need to learn how NAT / FW works |
| 06:33.15 | blitzrage | outgoing ports are going to work |
| 06:33.26 | blitzrage | if incoming is blocked - you won't hear audio |
| 06:33.55 | cursor | He can hear them - they can't hear him |
| 06:34.23 | pc3 | blitzrage - Is there any workaround without opening a wide range of ports on the server? |
| 06:34.28 | pc3 | I can open named, or individual ports. |
| 06:34.36 | pc3 | But a range isn't going to fly. |
| 06:34.38 | HDG-laws|afk | Same problem for me |
| 06:34.46 | HDG-laws|afk | I can call out and they can hear me, I can't hear them |
| 06:34.50 | mattindy77 | what kind of firewall is it? |
| 06:34.51 | HDG-laws|afk | I'll read eagerly :) |
| 06:34.59 | pc3 | HDG-laws|afk - I'm the other way around. |
| 06:35.06 | HDG-laws|afk | Comcast provided SMC modem/firewall |
| 06:35.07 | pc3 | mattindy77 - I don't know. I think route ACLS to be honest with you. |
| 06:35.12 | HDG-laws|afk | I only tinkered w/ it for an hour |
| 06:35.18 | pc3 | I don't manage my firewall. |
| 06:35.28 | mattindy77 | hmm. |
| 06:35.30 | Hogie | me either, it manages itself |
| 06:35.32 | HDG-laws|afk | So you can hear but not talk? |
| 06:35.35 | cursor | The end that can't hear is probably blocking the voice data |
| 06:35.39 | HDG-laws|afk | That's weird |
| 06:35.43 | HDG-laws|afk | Usually out is the easy part |
| 06:36.07 | HDG-laws|afk | Are you calling another sip? |
| 06:36.28 | blitzrage | pc3: only way is to limit the range of ports in Asterisk in rtp.conf. You need 4 ports per simultaneous call |
| 06:36.35 | pc3 | HDG-laws|afk - I am connecting to an asterisk sip server. I cna hera them. they can't hear me. |
| 06:36.59 | blitzrage | it needs at least a range of 4 ports for RTP/RTCP + 1 port SIP signalling |
| 06:37.13 | HDG-laws|afk | Asterisk sip server on lan or remote? |
| 06:37.17 | HDG-laws|afk | is it behind nat or no? |
| 06:37.35 | cursor | also is it behind a firewall |
| 06:37.36 | pc3 | remote -- behind firewall. |
| 06:37.43 | pc3 | for both of us :) |
| 06:37.44 | pc3 | hehe |
| 06:37.46 | anonobomber | nite |
| 06:37.52 | blitzrage | behind firewall - needs to forward signalling AND media ports |
| 06:37.58 | cursor | They probably have the same problem with all SIP callers |
| 06:38.02 | blitzrage | yep |
| 06:38.03 | pc3 | but hte medias are dynamic :( |
| 06:38.18 | pc3 | Is there any way for it to send a packet out first to 'open' that hole? |
| 06:38.21 | blitzrage | then n the device adjust the range to be smaller |
| 06:38.25 | HDG-laws|afk | but can u call a pstn and hear/speak? |
| 06:38.41 | pc3 | I don't know who's talking to who anymore, but yes I can, and hear. |
| 06:39.02 | HDG-laws|afk | Certainly sounds like there end ;) |
| 06:39.12 | HDG-laws|afk | their* |
| 06:39.48 | pc3 | What nat workaround exist (outside of using iax)? |
| 06:39.50 | *** join/#asterisk Tili (i=Tili@218.19.64.61) |
| 06:39.57 | HDG-laws|afk | Do I just need to use forwarding on my setup to get to hear the other end of a call? 79xx behind nat w/ asterisk behind nat |
| 06:40.16 | HDG-laws|afk | Can speak and be heard but cannot hear |
| 06:40.35 | blitzrage | pc3: forward the ports to the device |
| 06:40.53 | HDG-laws|afk | Do I need to lock each phone to a specific port? |
| 06:41.03 | HDG-laws|afk | As I have 15 behind one firewall |
| 06:41.04 | blitzrage | yes |
| 06:41.14 | HDG-laws|afk | That sucks :/ |
| 06:41.19 | blitzrage | you need to open ports, thats how SIP works |
| 06:41.23 | pc3 | blitzrage - the whole range? that won't work :( |
| 06:41.31 | blitzrage | it uses 5060 for signalling, then a range of ports for media |
| 06:41.35 | pc3 | I wish you could force the server to do a connect or something. |
| 06:41.46 | blitzrage | the more simultaneous calls, the more ports you need open |
| 06:42.01 | blitzrage | pc3: then you don't understand RTP and NAT/FW's enough |
| 06:42.16 | HDG-laws|afk | Would be better if you could forward to the * itself and have that regulate and recognize the sip devices |
| 06:42.20 | blitzrage | thats why IAX2 works behind NAT/FW better |
| 06:42.34 | blitzrage | hdg-laws|afk: you can |
| 06:42.48 | HDG-laws|afk | blitzrage: shouldn't I do that then? |
| 06:42.50 | blitzrage | have Asterisk talk IAX2 behind the nat, and the devices SIP |
| 06:42.53 | pc3 | blitzrage - Yes, but if I can get asterisk to send a packet, even if its empty to the client port that is going to be used, it will open up the firewall |
| 06:42.54 | HDG-laws|afk | Instead of forward each phone |
| 06:43.13 | blitzrage | pc3: qualify=yes is what you want |
| 06:43.25 | pc3 | are iax3 ata adapters plentiful? |
| 06:43.37 | blitzrage | SIP requires mutliple ports - thats how it works - its not an Asterisk limitation |
| 06:43.46 | blitzrage | thats why IAX2 works behind NAT better |
| 06:43.56 | pc3 | 2 |
| 06:43.57 | HDG-laws|afk | So I could use SIP phones to connect to my * and have the * use IAX for in/out? |
| 06:44.04 | blitzrage | yes |
| 06:44.06 | HDG-laws|afk | Neat |
| 06:44.14 | HDG-laws|afk | Not a lot of providers that use IAX tho I thought |
| 06:44.19 | blitzrage | Asterisk wil convert between protocols |
| 06:44.26 | blitzrage | hdg-laws|afk: lots do |
| 06:44.34 | HDG-laws|afk | I'll check around |
| 06:44.36 | blitzrage | hdg-laws|afk: mixnetworks.com for example |
| 06:44.44 | HDG-laws|afk | That certainly sounds like a better alternative than constant forwarding |
| 06:44.52 | blitzrage | hdg-laws|afk: nufone.com also for example |
| 06:45.00 | HDG-laws|afk | Bad experience with nufone |
| 06:45.04 | HDG-laws|afk | But thanks for the suggestions |
| 06:45.14 | pc3 | what's bad about nufone? |
| 06:45.55 | blitzrage | hdg-laws|afk: thats the only way to get around it - unless the device supports NAT (like a Cisco 7960) which will rewrite the header to the external IP address. For instance, my 7960 will allow me to only forward port 5060 and not any RTP ports if I configure it correctly |
| 06:46.01 | HDG-laws|afk | I was setup to buy my phones and service from nufone a month ago, was told he'd send the invoice the next day via email...not only did I not get an invoice I was also never called back again |
| 06:46.06 | blitzrage | nufone is great |
| 06:46.07 | HDG-laws|afk | If customer service is like that...I'll pass |
| 06:47.02 | *** join/#asterisk h3x0r (n=h3xor@64.192.116.1) |
| 06:47.06 | HDG-laws|afk | blitzrage: Since I'm utilizing 7960's, what would you suggest? sip --> IAX or SIP--->SIP w/ forward? |
| 06:47.28 | blitzrage | hdg-laws|afk: setup NAT on the phones in the SIP menu |
| 06:47.41 | blitzrage | then you only need to forward the signalling ports to the Asterisk box |
| 06:47.49 | HDG-laws|afk | I thought I had done that, I can make my calls and all of that...I just can't hear |
| 06:47.53 | HDG-laws|afk | Okay |
| 06:48.03 | HDG-laws|afk | So forward the incoming ports for the calls to * |
| 06:48.15 | blitzrage | I have 7960 <-- NAT --> Asterisk and it works fine if i only ports 5060 to the phone |
| 06:48.25 | HDG-laws|afk | With a possibility of, say, 6 incoming voice connections I would need quite a few open ports? |
| 06:48.28 | blitzrage | Ideally Asterisk will have an external IP |
| 06:48.44 | blitzrage | 6 * 4 + 1 (5060) |
| 06:49.06 | blitzrage | its always n *4 + 1 for the number of SIP ports behind NAT/FW |
| 06:49.25 | HDG-laws|afk | Is there a rhyme to the ports used ? |
| 06:49.28 | blitzrage | where n = phones behind NAT/FW |
| 06:49.43 | blitzrage | hdG-laws|afk: read the RTP/RTCP RFC |
| 06:49.58 | blitzrage | hdG-laws|afk: ports are dynamic, but you can set ranges on most devices |
| 06:50.19 | HDG-laws|afk | I understand that, I just don't want to open a large swath of ranges if I don't have to |
| 06:50.36 | HDG-laws|afk | I'll tinker with that when I'm back at the office |
| 06:50.47 | HDG-laws|afk | Thank you |
| 06:50.50 | blitzrage | well, I gave you the formula for how many ports you have to open |
| 06:51.16 | HDG-laws|afk | I just have to limit the ports in that conf file for asterisk? |
| 06:51.18 | HDG-laws|afk | I'm using @home |
| 06:51.33 | blitzrage | for Asterisk behind NAT, then its in rtp.conf |
| 06:51.49 | cursor | Run the NAT on the Asterisk box itself |
| 06:51.53 | blitzrage | A@H hides the config files and limts your abiltiy to use Asterisk |
| 06:52.19 | blitzrage | cursor: that'll work... at least Asterisk will be binded to the external IP |
| 06:52.39 | cursor | yes |
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| 06:52.54 | cursor | It'll help with QoS too |
| 06:53.17 | cursor | A@H is based upon a very old version of Asterisk, I think - I don't use it myself |
| 06:53.29 | HDG-laws|afk | I'm just starting out, easiest way to get into it |
| 06:53.37 | cursor | The door |
| 06:53.45 | blitzrage | bad habits - actually learn asteriks |
| 06:53.50 | blitzrage | ~thebook |
| 06:53.50 | jbot | thebook is probably Asterisk: The Future of Telephony by Jim Van Meggelen, Jared Smith & Leif Madsen, published by O'Reilly Media. It can be found at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk |
| 06:53.56 | cursor | Just install it and play around with it |
| 06:54.03 | HDG-laws|afk | I don't have the time |
| 06:54.04 | blitzrage | ~docs |
| 06:54.04 | jbot | i heard docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk |
| 06:54.08 | HDG-laws|afk | Moving in Sept 2 |
| 06:54.16 | cursor | Set up a couple of internal extensions with a simple config |
| 06:54.19 | HDG-laws|afk | I need a functional system, doesn't have to dance |
| 06:54.21 | cursor | then start to add externals |
| 06:54.29 | HDG-laws|afk | I've got internal rocking, no problems there |
| 06:54.51 | cursor | You really need an external IP if you want to be reliable with SIP |
| 06:54.59 | HDG-laws|afk | I gather that |
| 06:55.01 | cursor | NATs just get in the way |
| 06:55.03 | HDG-laws|afk | I'm at one of our other offices |
| 06:55.11 | blitzrage | or know how NAT/FW's actually work |
| 06:55.12 | HDG-laws|afk | So I'm hamstringing the system keeping everything behind the nat |
| 06:55.29 | HDG-laws|afk | I'll play w/ the different options, see what fits |
| 06:55.30 | blitzrage | Asterisk/SIP/phones will work behind NAT if you know how NAT works |
| 06:55.42 | cursor | right |
| 06:55.43 | HDG-laws|afk | I was hoping there was a simple config setting I could use |
| 06:55.50 | HDG-laws|afk | But sicne I have to get my hands dirty |
| 06:55.54 | HDG-laws|afk | I'll just go ahead and do that |
| 06:55.56 | blitzrage | hdG-laws|afk: externip and localnet |
| 06:56.24 | HDG-laws|afk | blitzrage: pardon? |
| 06:56.32 | blitzrage | in sip.conf |
| 06:56.44 | blitzrage | will let asterisk work behind NAT |
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| 06:57.32 | mattindy71 | hello. |
| 06:57.34 | blitzrage | changes the IP address in the header files to reflect the external IP address, and localnet controls the local networks and what addresses need to be re-written |
| 06:58.19 | mattindy71 | i'm using asterisk@home 1.5 and i'm having a problem with incoming calls via broadvoice. the problem i have is that the call gets a busy signal, but asterisk proceeds to rink the softphone. |
| 06:58.25 | HDG-laws|afk | So sip.conf giwll route me? |
| 06:58.31 | mattindy71 | rink = ring |
| 06:58.39 | cursor | A@H has a lot to answer for, I think |
| 06:58.43 | mattindy71 | asterisk seems to think that the call is coming right through. |
| 06:59.22 | mattindy71 | i've been trying to fix this for a few hours now and i'm not having much luck. i'm not seeing anything in the sip debugging that would indicate some kind of 4xx error. |
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| 07:00.19 | mattindy71 | outbound calls work perfectly fine, by the way. |
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| 07:02.46 | mattindy71 | bummer. i was hoping someone here had some ideas. |
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| 07:07.31 | mattindy71 | anyone here actually have broadvoice fully working with asterisk@home? |
| 07:07.43 | cursor | not me - sorry |
| 07:10.11 | cursor | \o/ |
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| 07:17.06 | cursor | You don't have permission to access /catalog/asterisk)" on this server :-) |
| 07:17.17 | cursor | You have an extra ) in your URI |
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| 07:18.34 | cursor | Starfish :-) |
| 07:20.50 | cursor | "Everything should be made as simple as possible - but not simpler" |
| 07:20.52 | cursor | I like it |
| 07:22.37 | cursor | Well, the book is out just in time to be out of date |
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| 07:22.52 | salviadud | anybody have the code to integrate skype into asterisk? |
| 07:23.00 | cursor | I see it doesn't cover the new dialplan "language" |
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| 07:23.15 | cursor | salviadud: No - that's a secret |
| 07:23.17 | leoncamel | hi .. is asterisk support E1/T1 ? |
| 07:23.24 | mog_home | yes |
| 07:23.33 | leoncamel | and dose it support R2 signaling ? |
| 07:23.35 | salviadud | come on... there must be something there... |
| 07:23.35 | cursor | We're not allowed to know how the secret Sk(h)ype protocol works |
| 07:23.36 | niZon | someone hasn't read the features list |
| 07:23.39 | mog_home | there is no skype to asterisk bridge |
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| 07:23.56 | mog_home | although skype probably uses asterisk to terminate calls |
| 07:23.59 | salviadud | i know you can get a developer kit for skype. i just don't want to hack it if somebody already did |
| 07:24.25 | cursor | You'd also need the wideband codec used by the hype |
| 07:24.38 | salviadud | it uses another codec? |
| 07:24.40 | salviadud | damn... |
| 07:24.43 | mog_home | right no wideband in asterisk |
| 07:24.45 | mog_home | yet |
| 07:24.54 | mog_home | and skype dev kit only allows for one channel |
| 07:24.54 | cursor | unless their version of iLBC auto-negotiates down to 8bit |
| 07:24.59 | cursor | Which I doubt |
| 07:25.03 | mog_home | so not really usefull for asterisk |
| 07:25.23 | salviadud | im so new to asterisk, i just compiled it with checkinstall |
| 07:25.27 | cursor | Just use SIP instead of Shite |
| 07:25.29 | salviadud | and forgot to compile the examples... |
| 07:25.45 | cursor | oops - I mean skype |
| 07:25.46 | salviadud | should i just wait for 1.2 instead? |
| 07:26.11 | mog_home | ? |
| 07:26.15 | mog_home | why wait |
| 07:26.27 | salviadud | somebody's mentioning the dialplan language is gonna change |
| 07:26.29 | salviadud | is that true? |
| 07:26.31 | cursor | get your friends to download x-lite or something |
| 07:26.32 | mog_home | no |
| 07:26.39 | mog_home | a new one was added |
| 07:26.42 | mog_home | but you dont have to use it |
| 07:26.49 | salviadud | alright |
| 07:26.56 | salviadud | i have a fwd account |
| 07:26.56 | cursor | salviadud: yes - it's in CVS HEAD |
| 07:26.58 | mog_home | asterisk is very backwards compatible from version to version |
| 07:27.06 | salviadud | and a sipura 3000 |
| 07:27.08 | mog_home | and its already in cvs head |
| 07:27.12 | cursor | The current dialplans will still work |
| 07:27.13 | mog_home | no things leap out at you |
| 07:27.21 | salviadud | alright |
| 07:27.41 | salviadud | im gonna get busy and draw myself a flux diagram, however you call it |
| 07:27.53 | RandomAndy | Skype uses iSAC codec. It's proprietary, variable bit rate. |
| 07:27.58 | salviadud | im in mexico... |
| 07:28.01 | salviadud | nobody knows what asterisk is |
| 07:28.13 | cursor | I thought they used a proprietary version of iLBC |
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| 07:28.21 | mog_home | it uses ilbc |
| 07:28.23 | RandomAndy | iSAC does 16kHz sampling which Asteirsk can't handle yet. |
| 07:28.23 | salviadud | voip is a mistery down here... |
| 07:28.26 | mog_home | at 16khz |
| 07:28.42 | mog_home | salviadud there are lot of itsps down their |
| 07:28.44 | RandomAndy | iLBC is an 8kHz codec |
| 07:28.48 | mog_home | at least that i work from day to day |
| 07:28.52 | mog_home | umm no andy |
| 07:29.05 | salviadud | well, not as many as in the usa |
| 07:29.09 | salviadud | or europe |
| 07:29.10 | mog_home | lots of codecs support multiple khz ranges |
| 07:29.13 | cursor | Most people who use Asterisk use hardware phones, I think |
| 07:29.13 | salviadud | its kinda fresh down here |
| 07:29.13 | mog_home | such as ilbc |
| 07:29.22 | cursor | so the 16bit codecs would be a bit of a waste |
| 07:29.26 | mog_home | so you can run it on 8 16 or even 44 if you had something to do |
| 07:29.28 | cursor | they'd get transcoded |
| 07:29.46 | mog_home | and transcoding 8 -16 sucks |
| 07:29.49 | salviadud | cya later guys |
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| 07:30.40 | cursor | People use skype because they don't know any better |
| 07:30.45 | cursor | and don't know about standards etc. |
| 07:30.56 | cursor | Superior marketing |
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| 07:37.23 | tuxinator_linuxM | cursor: Sound like some other products.... M$ stuff |
| 07:37.56 | cursor | I'm waiting to see what MS/SIP comes out like |
| 07:38.20 | cursor | or perhaps they'll just buy/steal skype |
| 07:38.23 | RandomAndy | mog_home, all the white papers I see at GIPS describe iLBC as designed for 8 kHz sampling. |
| 07:38.32 | mog_home | yeah |
| 07:38.35 | tuxinator_linuxM | netmeeting with a new face |
| 07:38.35 | mog_home | its the default |
| 07:38.35 | cursor | MSIAX |
| 07:38.39 | mog_home | as it is a phone codec |
| 07:38.59 | mog_home | i mean you mostly hear about ogg vorbis in 44khz |
| 07:39.05 | mog_home | but it can work at 8 as well |
| 07:39.31 | cursor | 44k VoIP codec :-) |
| 07:39.31 | RandomAndy | you're saying it is designed for use at other rates as well? |
| 07:39.53 | RandomAndy | it's still not what Skype uses ... since iLBC is fixed rate. |
| 07:39.56 | mog_home | well what a codec is intended for and what is used for can change |
| 07:39.58 | RandomAndy | (bit rate) |
| 07:40.05 | cursor | I'm not personally interested in anything above 8k |
| 07:40.09 | mog_home | skype uses ilbc at 16khz |
| 07:40.19 | cursor | Most of my calls wind up on the PSTN somewhere along the line |
| 07:40.23 | cursor | and all involve hard phones |
| 07:40.24 | RandomAndy | How do you know? |
| 07:40.33 | mog_home | google: skype ilbc |
| 07:40.36 | mog_home | first link |
| 07:40.48 | mog_home | analyse of the protocol |
| 07:41.58 | cursor | Why bother? |
| 07:42.00 | RandomAndy | GIPS claims Skype licensed all their codecs. Skype refers to having a variable bit rate codec, which would not be doable with iLBC. |
| 07:42.56 | mog_home | well according to that white paper they use isac at times as well and a third unamed codec |
| 07:43.12 | RandomAndy | that's what I was referring to. |
| 07:43.39 | RandomAndy | Skype can use iLBC, or iSAC or perhaps iPCB-wb |
| 07:45.44 | zedkatuf | anyone have experience with a grandstream handytone 486? Ican't seem to access it via its LAN port for web configuration |
| 07:48.06 | RandomAndy | The reason I'm picking at it is that there is very frequent chatter about a "wideband iLBC" but I've yet to find any citable sources. If there is one, I'd like to see it, but my conclusion so far is that it's been adopted as a folklore term to refer to the GIPS wideband codecs (iSAC and iPCM-wb) |
| 07:51.15 | RandomAndy | anyway, back to Asterisk: Can anybody tell me why my DTMF gets mangled when passed through Asterisk (head) to a POTS so that it misdials easily? When I was using 1.09 I didn't encounter that behaviour. |
| 07:51.57 | cursor | What POTS interface do you have? |
| 07:52.52 | RandomAndy | An adtran channel bank |
| 07:53.05 | RandomAndy | T-Access 750 I think |
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| 07:53.49 | cursor | Does that have a SIP or T1 interface to Asterisk? |
| 07:53.53 | RandomAndy | T1 |
| 07:54.17 | cursor | Sorry, I don't know then |
| 07:55.01 | RandomAndy | Asterisk can dial the calls fine. It's only a problem when I'm passing the tones from the phone through Asterisk to the POTS. |
| 07:55.26 | RandomAndy | ok |
| 07:55.37 | cursor | I don't know anything about T1s, but if they have an inband vs, out of band setting then you can look there |
| 07:55.53 | cursor | Pass the DTMF out of band |
| 07:56.13 | cursor | As I said, I don't know anything about T1s |
| 07:56.24 | RandomAndy | k. I'll peek at that. |
| 07:56.52 | RandomAndy | Not sure I've seen that option anywhere but SIP, but we'll see. |
| 07:57.14 | mog_home | dtmf is inband on t1 |
| 07:57.17 | mog_home | always |
| 07:57.43 | RandomAndy | ah |
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| 07:59.33 | cursor | How about codec settings? |
| 07:59.40 | mog_home | its always ulaw |
| 07:59.41 | cursor | Do your phones use anything other than ulaw? |
| 07:59.43 | mog_home | as it is a t1 |
| 07:59.56 | cursor | i.e. is Asterisk transcoding to ulaw for the T1 |
| 08:00.23 | RandomAndy | the debugging should be simplified by the fact that it worked fine when I was running STABLE, but not now with HEAD |
| 08:00.37 | cursor | switch back to v1-0 then :-) |
| 08:00.47 | RandomAndy | (unless there's something I tweaked that I forget about) |
| 08:00.49 | cursor | Why are you moving to HEAD? |
| 08:00.58 | RandomAndy | experiment. |
| 08:01.07 | RandomAndy | wanted to mess with Hints |
| 08:01.15 | cursor | ok |
| 08:02.13 | RandomAndy | Hints ... which I haven't gotten to work either .. at least on a Mitel 5220. |
| 08:02.18 | RandomAndy | :-( |
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| 08:07.20 | RandomAndy | Ok - I'll throw one more out for y'all: With STABLE, on my Pots/Channel Bank, I experienced every so often (on average about hourly) an abrupt sound which I recognize but lack words to describe... it's that loud echo-y sound like you get if/when your call has been disconnected ... but it only lasts for about one second, and the call returns to normal - party is still connected and only noticed a minor click or something. |
| 08:11.09 | cursor | Sorry - that's not a question for me :-) |
| 08:11.25 | zoa | missed interrupt ? |
| 08:11.48 | RandomAndy | hmmm |
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| 08:12.24 | mog_home | yeah andy it could be a couple of things |
| 08:12.32 | mog_home | take a look it at i guess |
| 08:12.36 | mog_home | but its so late |
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| 08:47.15 | ta[i]nted | anyone here |
| 08:47.30 | ta[i]nted | i have sip channels that refuse to go away after call has ended |
| 08:48.15 | Supaplex | how rude |
| 08:48.19 | Supaplex | ;o) |
| 08:48.25 | ta[i]nted | that's what i need |
| 08:48.27 | ta[i]nted | a lil humor |
| 08:48.28 | ta[i]nted | heh |
| 08:48.31 | ta[i]nted | talk about rough day! |
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| 08:51.24 | Supaplex | glad I could help. because that's about all I can do. I like to idle and soak up stuffs. well, that and eventually I'll fire up the * box again. |
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| 08:53.27 | Hugo-egoN | gd morning pals |
| 08:53.45 | Hugo-egoN | nick hugo-v6 |
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| 09:06.57 | GrayFox | anyone here can help me? |
| 09:07.09 | GrayFox | if i configure IAX on 2 asterisk servers |
| 09:07.34 | GrayFox | the users of serverA and the users of serverB could make call each ones? |
| 09:07.44 | RandomAndy | yup |
| 09:07.48 | cursor | yes |
| 09:07.55 | cursor | and server C and D etc. |
| 09:08.11 | mog_home | but not E |
| 09:08.14 | mog_home | that would never work |
| 09:08.15 | cursor | haha |
| 09:08.23 | hugo-v6 | not e? crap. |
| 09:08.31 | tuxinator_linuxM | Skip E |
| 09:08.35 | hugo-v6 | and im asking me why this damn setup wont work |
| 09:08.36 | mog_home | no lower case e works |
| 09:08.38 | tuxinator_linuxM | F works greak |
| 09:08.39 | mog_home | just uper |
| 09:08.45 | mog_home | as does f or F |
| 09:08.46 | hugo-v6 | and whats about h? |
| 09:08.55 | cursor | die "aaargh!" if $hostname =~ /e$/i; |
| 09:09.00 | hugo-v6 | hrhr |
| 09:09.02 | cursor | Just comment out that line |
| 09:09.03 | tuxinator_linuxM | I've heard that people even use Z |
| 09:09.04 | cursor | haha |
| 09:09.07 | mog_home | im not sure never tested |
| 09:09.21 | hugo-v6 | z is a rather ugly char |
| 09:09.32 | cursor | Tell that to the zebras |
| 09:09.38 | tuxinator_linuxM | Hey, Z is my wife's name |
| 09:09.48 | hugo-v6 | oh crap. im sorry ;) |
| 09:10.07 | tuxinator_linuxM | It is the first letter of her name, but she goes by Z |
| 09:10.17 | GrayFox | thanks |
| 09:10.20 | tuxinator_linuxM | No problem hugo-v6 |
| 09:10.22 | hugo-v6 | well if its shorter .... |
| 09:10.33 | GrayFox | my x100p clone is working |
| 09:10.38 | GrayFox | ambient md3200A |
| 09:10.42 | GrayFox | 1 fxo |
| 09:11.23 | cursor | All X100Ps are clones |
| 09:11.29 | hugo-v6 | how are the experiences with snom ip phones? problems with the ip 190? |
| 09:12.24 | dudes | GrayFox - what aboud caller id |
| 09:13.27 | tuxinator_linuxM | Night guys |
| 09:13.33 | cursor | Probably not - Brazil |
| 09:13.45 | tuxinator_linuxM | :-) |
| 09:13.48 | cursor | tux: night |
| 09:14.23 | hugo-v6 | gd night tuxinator_linuxM |
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| 09:26.08 | syle | http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/Winnipeg/2005/08/13/1171153-sun.html |
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| 09:36.22 | syle | http://64.70.241.60/Bodybouncer.wmv |
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| 09:38.27 | ta[i]nted | anyone have codec_g723.so? |
| 09:43.34 | hugo-v6 | syle: ncie toy :> |
| 09:46.54 | syle | i thought you'd like it :) |
| 09:47.59 | hugo-v6 | hrhr :> |
| 09:48.22 | hugo-v6 | since my gf isnt the smallest it yould be from intrest :> |
| 09:48.26 | hugo-v6 | c |
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| 09:58.47 | apardo | hi |
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| 10:20.29 | nroej | hi |
| 10:26.17 | drray | ok, I think MozIax just became my new * manager |
| 10:28.27 | hugo-v6 | drray: url with screenshots? |
| 10:29.46 | hugo-v6 | drray: looks like a softphone not like an "manager" ? |
| 10:30.03 | drray | http://moziax.mozdev.org/screenshots.html |
| 10:30.10 | drray | it has a manager on it |
| 10:30.59 | hugo-v6 | looks nice. |
| 10:31.31 | hugo-v6 | well... loking for something more complex ;) and a way to bill calls made :/ |
| 10:32.35 | drray | I wrote a perl program that spits out phonebills |
| 10:32.38 | *** join/#asterisk psycodad (n=obiwan@2001:4060:4419:b1:0:0:0:2) |
| 10:32.49 | drray | it was trivial to do |
| 10:36.06 | hugo-v6 | drray: i've no clue where to start. |
| 10:37.17 | hugo-v6 | well... today ill first finish this zaphfc stuff |
| 10:39.27 | drray | well, talk to me when you are ready to start |
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| 10:39.54 | drray | I just cobled something up that hacked up Master.csv |
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| 10:40.39 | hugo-v6 | drray: thank you, i will for sure :) |
| 10:40.56 | drray | I mean, I won't write it for you, but I'll help you get through the steps I took |
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| 10:47.38 | Borgon | hello |
| 10:48.10 | Borgon | Can i use a softphone from a remote pc to a remote asterisk pbx server with voip? |
| 10:48.44 | drray | yes |
| 10:48.53 | drray | that;s what a softphone is for |
| 10:49.58 | GrayFox | how can i convert a wav file to a gsm file? |
| 10:50.11 | GrayFox | audio converter |
| 10:50.13 | GrayFox | duh |
| 10:50.24 | drray | check the wiki there is a tool |
| 10:55.29 | trash | GrayFox: sox is your friend. |
| 10:59.40 | Borgon | drray: So the mic doesnt have be connected directly to the pbx server? wow |
| 11:02.47 | RaYmAn-Bx | Borgon: I doubt most people even have a soundcard in their asterisk servers. |
| 11:07.31 | hugo-v6 | drray: i never thought that, and since im not new to perl i dont see a problem there, but where to get the data and such infos would be nice to get from you :) |
| 11:08.49 | Druken | RaYmAn-Bx: why would you doubt that? most servers have a soundcard onboard.... |
| 11:10.22 | drray | no worries at all |
| 11:10.23 | drray | :) |
| 11:11.17 | drray | hugo - my perl sucked and I got one together in a few hours |
| 11:11.18 | RaYmAn-Bx | Druken: true, some do. But personally I've disabled the soundcard in my server |
| 11:11.37 | drray | I've never tried to get asterisk to work via the console (sound) |
| 11:12.24 | Druken | drray: neither have i... can't see why i would want to with a hardphone sitting on my desk... as well as one that hangs off the rack.. |
| 11:12.59 | hugo-v6 | drray: i think about an hour should be enough to write an a-bomb. |
| 11:13.24 | drray | hugo - yeah, I went back and looked at what I wrote and it is disgusting |
| 11:13.28 | drray | but it works |
| 11:13.39 | drray | chop and split baybee |
| 11:14.04 | hugo-v6 | hrhr |
| 11:14.32 | hugo-v6 | perl, whatever you do, it works. |
| 11:15.56 | cursor | <Druken> RaYmAn-Bx: why would you doubt that? most servers have a soundcard onboard.... |
| 11:16.04 | cursor | None of my servers have a sound card |
| 11:16.06 | cursor | Why would they? |
| 11:16.31 | cursor | Musical machine room |
| 11:17.06 | drray | hugo - I was banging it out and learned about perl-cgi about halfway through and did not use it |
| 11:17.26 | RoyK | hm |
| 11:17.33 | RoyK | what's the difference between |
| 11:17.34 | RoyK | Status: Provisioned, Down, Active |
| 11:17.35 | RoyK | and |
| 11:17.37 | cursor | agi? |
| 11:17.42 | RoyK | Status: Provisioned, In Alarm, Down, Active |
| 11:17.43 | RoyK | ? |
| 11:18.50 | Druken | cursor: ok.. let me correct then.... most ENTRY LEVEL servers have them onboard |
| 11:19.02 | cursor | If you say so |
| 11:19.10 | cursor | Most PCs have them - I'll agree with that |
| 11:19.12 | drray | my servers have them, because I just used an ASSROCK all in one MB |
| 11:19.22 | drray | ASROCK |
| 11:19.23 | drray | :) |
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| 11:19.29 | cursor | Aswad |
| 11:19.36 | cursor | More musical than an arse rock |
| 11:19.39 | Druken | all my servers have one... |
| 11:19.40 | drray | I <3 asrock |
| 11:19.48 | drray | asus makes them |
| 11:20.03 | cursor | ok |
| 11:22.50 | drray | gadzooks, a coworker wants me to host a tradewars 2002 game for him |
| 11:23.01 | drray | it's a windows app |
| 11:23.32 | RoyK | anyone here that knows PRI any good? what's the diff between a 'down pri' and a 'down, in alarmed' pri? |
| 11:24.12 | Druken | i didn't know a pri could be in alarm.... |
| 11:25.07 | drray | I thought teh T1 itself could be |
| 11:25.18 | drray | but PRI was just a way for t1's to talk |
| 11:29.21 | Druken | most of us call a t1 a PRI... |
| 11:29.47 | Druken | even tho you can have a DS3 as a PRI... :) |
| 11:30.25 | drray | right, but my calls come through a t1, but it's not a pri |
| 11:30.37 | drray | I don't believe |
| 11:30.41 | whisker | i've usually seen it in an 'in alarm' state when the d-channel is down |
| 11:30.45 | Druken | how the hell does that work then ? |
| 11:30.54 | drray | I have 24 voice channels on mine |
| 11:30.57 | drray | I think |
| 11:31.29 | Druken | do you only have the 1? |
| 11:31.41 | Chuji | Not on a PRI you don't |
| 11:31.42 | drray | I only have one t1 |
| 11:31.52 | Druken | if so you should have 23B channels (voice channels) 1 D chanel (control channel) |
| 11:31.55 | drray | my t1 is not a pri |
| 11:32.04 | drray | if I understand it correctly |
| 11:32.10 | Chuji | That's right |
| 11:32.30 | Druken | Chuji: not bad for someone who can't afford a t1 eh? :) |
| 11:33.03 | Borgon | wow didnt know a pri = t1 |
| 11:33.13 | Borgon | i thought it was some kinda special heavy duty phone line |
| 11:33.20 | Chuji | heh, yeah, after lurking this long you should know all this |
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| 11:33.48 | Druken | lurking? i'm not a lurker :) |
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| 11:34.28 | cursor | camper |
| 11:34.48 | Chuji | ~astriholic |
| 11:34.54 | Chuji | ~astriholics |
| 11:34.54 | jbot | astriholics are people that spend every waking hour working with Asterisk. They need a life! |
| 11:35.36 | hugo-v6 | drray: right. perl is perfect for cgi-scripts |
| 11:35.39 | Druken | definatly not me... sounds like a few people in here tho.... but i won't say any names... |
| 11:35.53 | hugo-v6 | and more secure than ie php if you use it right. |
| 11:36.11 | cursor | Anything's more secure than PHP |
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| 11:36.25 | hugo-v6 | cursor: hrhr, ack. |
| 11:36.26 | drray | well, my cgi-perl was quick and dirty, it just created html pages |
| 11:36.43 | cursor | :-) |
| 11:36.50 | hugo-v6 | drray: well with CGI:: you can do nice things :p |
| 11:37.06 | drray | yeah, I had to use chop and split to get my GET parsed |
| 11:37.08 | drray | it was ugly |
| 11:37.16 | drray | but it worked |
| 11:37.21 | hugo-v6 | \n is always ugly ;) |
| 11:37.28 | drray | yes |
| 11:37.45 | hugo-v6 | i stumble always over it |
| 11:38.07 | cursor | It's beautiful\n |
| 11:38.19 | hugo-v6 | hrhr :> isnt! |
| 11:38.30 | cursor | This is ugly\r\n |
| 11:38.45 | hugo-v6 | brrr 7kick damn windows newline :> |
| 11:38.54 | cursor | yes |
| 11:40.28 | Druken | i wasen't able to retreive the data from asterisk when i tried to do a AGI with php... so i gave up |
| 11:40.51 | cursor | Asterisk::AGI is easy |
| 11:41.00 | Druken | probably... |
| 11:41.34 | cursor | PHP is for girls |
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| 11:41.45 | hugo-v6 | .o(hmmm girls) |
| 11:41.47 | Druken | you don't like my long curly locks? |
| 11:41.52 | Druken | hehe |
| 11:41.54 | cursor | :-) |
| 11:41.55 | Druken | j/k |
| 11:43.02 | Druken | cursor: i'm a bit of a relic at times... took me like 2 weeks to learn how to type on my laptops keyboard |
| 11:43.30 | cursor | My laptop doesn't even have a keyboard |
| 11:43.37 | cursor | it has a tail, teeth and claws |
| 11:43.58 | Druken | well stop stroken your pussy then.... |
| 11:44.08 | hugo-v6 | hrhr |
| 11:45.04 | cursor | brb |
| 11:45.32 | Druken | i r bored |
| 11:45.50 | Druken | nothing to do on a sunday morning... cept watch cartoons my kid should be watching |
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| 11:48.23 | drray | counting flowers on the wall |
| 11:49.51 | Chuji | How old is you kid Druken ? |
| 11:50.00 | Druken | 3 |
| 11:50.37 | Chuji | I've got a 2yo |
| 11:50.47 | Chuji | Who is obsessed with Dora the Explorer |
| 11:51.05 | Druken | sponge bob here... |
| 11:51.10 | hugo-v6 | hmmm /me waits for the food mother is fixing :> |
| 11:51.18 | Druken | due to my damn sister who bought him a dvd of it... |
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| 11:51.39 | Druken | mother is fixing? |
| 11:51.54 | hugo-v6 | Druken: jep, shes fixing food ;) |
| 11:52.23 | Druken | i keep forgetting we get younge ones in here.... :) |
| 11:52.36 | cursor | 2 year olds in here? |
| 11:52.38 | cursor | :-) |
| 11:53.16 | hugo-v6 | well maybe cooking would be rather correct |
| 11:53.18 | hugo-v6 | :> |
| 11:53.29 | hugo-v6 | sice its not broken :> |
| 11:53.56 | cursor | food sounds good about now |
| 11:54.03 | hugo-v6 | yep |
| 11:54.10 | cursor | 12:54am |
| 11:54.13 | cursor | lunch time |
| 11:54.18 | hugo-v6 | ack |
| 11:54.29 | cursor | oops |
| 11:54.30 | cursor | pm |
| 11:54.33 | cursor | :-) |
| 11:54.48 | cursor | Daylight - aaargh! |
| 11:55.00 | cursor | Where's my coffin |
| 11:56.18 | Druken | damn.... |
| 11:56.30 | hugo-v6 | hmmm i've a dog, so i see the daylight fairly often |
| 11:56.35 | Druken | finch ave w. in toronto gave way in a flash flood on friday |
| 11:56.51 | cursor | I should just auto-delete any mail list articles that have 'digest' in the subject |
| 11:56.58 | Druken | just looking at the picture.. it's a gaping hole... |
| 11:57.25 | cursor | Cats look after themselves |
| 11:58.43 | cursor | Although he came in with blood on his claws the other day, so not all cats can look after themselves it seems |
| 11:58.50 | cursor | He's a bit of a bully |
| 12:00.00 | hugo-v6 | i dont like cats. are not that clever and i got a cat allergy |
| 12:00.33 | cursor | Dogs look up at you, cats look down on you |
| 12:00.35 | hugo-v6 | my dog loves to play with cats |
| 12:00.44 | cursor | Dogs sniff your arse, cats show you theirs |
| 12:01.00 | jedirl | my dog ignores cats |
| 12:01.02 | hugo-v6 | cursor: cats in heat dont do only that |
| 12:01.10 | drray | I already have an asshole living in my house (me) I don't need a cat too |
| 12:01.23 | cursor | :-) |
| 12:01.32 | hugo-v6 | drray: good point ;) |
| 12:01.51 | drray | seriously |
| 12:01.52 | hugo-v6 | im going to look after food |
| 12:02.01 | cursor | look after or eat? |
| 12:08.21 | Druken | amazing how large a city of toronto can be, and yet there's no news in the paper... |
| 12:08.47 | Druken | argh... i hate this time of the day... |
| 12:09.12 | queuetue | No news is good news... |
| 12:09.13 | Druken | can't see nothing.. damn sun comes right threw the window blinding anything that dare sit in it's way |
| 12:09.43 | Druken | queuetue: that is my way of thinking towards the mail... |
| 12:09.53 | Druken | if i don't get any mail, i'm not getting any bills... |
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| 12:12.32 | hugo-v6 | i looked after it and put garlic into the white bean salad. |
| 12:12.38 | hugo-v6 | now im going to eat it :) |
| 12:12.38 | hugo-v6 | l8r |
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| 12:34.48 | JonUK | hi everyone, does anyone know if you specify a sip proxy to be used in a sip registration ? |
| 12:36.26 | JonUK | I would like to run my * server behind a NAT firewall, and wondered if that was possible to get it working? |
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| 12:36.59 | zoa | if you phones are behind the same nat, no problem, if they are not, you will run into trouble |
| 12:37.12 | zoa | it can be solved, but will never work really good |
| 12:37.35 | JonUK | the phones are on the same lan, but the SIP service I am subscribed to is out on the internet |
| 12:40.35 | JonUK | how do you specify the sip proxy to be used then in the sip.conf file? |
| 12:40.58 | djin_ib | zoa, do you offer the possibility for a branded version of Idefisk as well? |
| 12:41.05 | djin_ib | slightly OT :) |
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| 12:50.23 | tmx | hello |
| 12:51.30 | tmx | i use * with gnugk |
| 12:51.51 | tmx | i can call from h323 phone connected to gnugk |
| 12:52.00 | tmx | i can call from sip phone connected to * |
| 12:52.19 | tmx | but a never heard sound from h323 phone |
| 12:52.49 | tmx | have someone samo problem? |
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| 12:56.23 | thal | re |
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| 13:01.55 | queuetue | What an amazing difference a little QOS makes... |
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| 13:02.53 | hugo-v6 | queuetue: im puting the phones in a own vlan |
| 13:03.29 | Madkiss | pid 6078 (asterisk), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) |
| 13:03.30 | Madkiss | yay |
| 13:03.53 | hugo-v6 | qos would be a nice completion |
| 13:04.02 | queuetue | hugo-v6: Do you think that will make a difference in sound quality? |
| 13:04.10 | hugo-v6 | queuetue: nope. |
| 13:04.22 | queuetue | hugo-v6: Ok, because i was sure it would not. :) |
| 13:04.44 | hugo-v6 | as i said, would be a nice completion |
| 13:04.57 | queuetue | Ah, was typing, not reading. :) |
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| 13:05.18 | hugo-v6 | queuetue: is there a sort of documentation? |
| 13:05.43 | Borgon | Hey do you all recommend any good aix termination providers? |
| 13:05.46 | Madkiss | Can somebody tell me the correct tcpdump-command for catching all asteriskrelated stuff? |
| 13:05.54 | Borgon | i mean iax* |
| 13:06.19 | queuetue | hugo-v6: For QOS? All i did was placed asterisk on my firewall, hardened it up a bit, placed tos=lowdelay in my sip.conf and iax.conf and ran the wondershaper script... |
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| 13:06.50 | hugo-v6 | queuetue: wondershaper? |
| 13:06.57 | hugo-v6 | *google* |
| 13:07.00 | benno2 | hi, anyone familiar with iaxclient ? is it easy to build an ip phone with that lib ? |
| 13:07.27 | queuetue | hugo-v6: It's a script that tries to "do the right thing" with traffic shaping. |
| 13:07.34 | hugo-v6 | queuetue: this: http://lartc.org/wondershaper/? |
| 13:07.49 | queuetue | hugo-v6: Y. |
| 13:07.51 | hugo-v6 | k |
| 13:07.56 | hugo-v6 | thx for the hint |
| 13:08.08 | Borgon | Can anyone recommend a reliable/stable iax provider? |
| 13:08.41 | queuetue | Borgon: For outgoing, I'm very happy with voipjet the last few days. |
| 13:09.55 | Borgon | queuetue: how smooth and fast was the setup? |
| 13:10.31 | syle | took 2 min |
| 13:10.36 | queuetue | Borgon: Unbelievably so - maybe 30 seconds, 60 including the IAX setup. They even give you a free .25 signup credit to test with before you spend a penny. |
| 13:11.41 | queuetue | Between the QOS improvements and voipjet's reliability, I think I'll be cancelling a few phone lines next week... |
| 13:14.16 | Borgon | queuetue: any other companies come to mind? |
| 13:14.31 | Borgon | oh one last question |
| 13:14.53 | Borgon | can i sip wirelessly to a remote asterisk pbx and use iax on it to terminate? |
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| 13:15.19 | Madkiss | This is funny. |
| 13:15.35 | Madkiss | I don't even see a BYE in the tcpdump of my phone call to pSTN, and yet the conection terminates. |
| 13:16.52 | Madkiss | This is driving me mad. |
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| 13:19.40 | queuetue | Borgon: voicepulse, broadvoice (I use them for incoming), telasip |
| 13:20.15 | queuetue | Borgon: sip->Asterisk->AIX->voipJet is hjow I am using my system. |
| 13:20.35 | queuetue | IAX, not AIX. |
| 13:21.00 | jedirl | asterisk works on AIX? :o) |
| 13:21.12 | Borgon | queuetue: does broadvoice support iax ? |
| 13:21.17 | queuetue | Currently, we are using X-ten phones and Sipura 2000's to connect to Asterisk, but are upgrading to "real" sip phones soon. |
| 13:21.24 | Borgon | last time i checked they were having problems or something |
| 13:21.28 | queuetue | Borgon: No. Not yet anyway. No clue if they will. |
| 13:21.36 | Borgon | dang ok |
| 13:22.08 | syle | i heard their are echo problems keeping your hardphones analog |
| 13:22.11 | queuetue | Borgon: Oh, forgot you were looking for iax only - no clue if the others do it or not. |
| 13:22.13 | Madkiss | J ##freebsd |
| 13:22.14 | Madkiss | gna. |
| 13:22.16 | syle | err not keeping |
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| 13:23.08 | queuetue | syle: You've heard that echo problems will become *worse* if we move to sip phones rather than analog-sip converters? Why? |
| 13:23.33 | syle | sec let me find url |
| 13:23.42 | Madkiss | Is more detailled debug output available than "sip debug"? |
| 13:24.33 | queuetue | Madkiss: I find sip debug gives more info than I want usually. :) Try running asterisk -vvvvvr |
| 13:24.33 | syle | this is based on fact you don;t have a PRI line though |
| 13:24.36 | syle | if you do thats different |
| 13:24.48 | queuetue | syle: I'm a newbie - what is PRI? |
| 13:24.56 | syle | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20setup%20soho%204%20CO%2012%20extensions |
| 13:25.18 | Madkiss | queuetue: This does not help me. My asterisk keeps disconnecting my calls from SIP to PSTN for no obvious reason |
| 13:26.13 | queuetue | syle: This is talking about voip vs POTS, isn't it? Not Analog phones vs sip... |
| 13:28.15 | syle | dude VOIP is all PSTN , your just using internet to connect to someone elses PRI line |
| 13:30.09 | queuetue | If you say so. I can certainly tell the difference between a POTS provider's service and VOIP provider's service, but If you want to insist it's the same, I'm not going to argue about it. ;) |
| 13:31.50 | syle | do you think DID's float on the internet hehe |
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| 13:32.23 | Mensored | come on discuss something useful dudes :-) |
| 13:32.32 | danzig | Syle I think the articlwe is unclear, and you misunderstand. Echo problems are usually worse if you have analog phones a both ends of a VOIP setup, as opposed to having eg SIP phones at your own end and POTS at the remote party. |
| 13:32.42 | marno | hi |
| 13:32.48 | queuetue | I have no idea what that means, but since it seems to make you all giddy like a schoolgirl, go for it. :) |
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| 13:33.10 | marno | i've a problem with asterisk |
| 13:33.36 | queuetue | marno: No one can help you unless you tell us what it is. :) |
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| 13:34.21 | marno | i monitor the astersk with a sip connect (sipsak) and when asterisk is working (have same calls) i get the response from sipsak: received ICMP packet: ignoring (ICMP data is not a UDP packet) |
| 13:34.46 | marno | sorry, i had to write it first :) |
| 13:35.11 | syle | define newb, how long you been using asterisk? |
| 13:37.30 | marno | nobody with an idea? |
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| 13:37.44 | syle | why don't people make real cordless sip phones instead of that wifi crap |
| 13:38.05 | nroej | Madkiss: still not solved your problem with freenet? |
| 13:38.12 | syle | 5.8ghz sip phones hehe |
| 13:40.12 | syle | marno i don;t see the problem |
| 13:40.27 | Madkiss | nroej: it's not only freenet, t-online shows the same symptoms but with the difference that while freenet gets disconnected after 4-5 seconds, t-online stays at least 20 seconds |
| 13:40.28 | syle | you got an icmp packet so what? |
| 13:42.20 | marno | syle, the normal answere should be something like /usr/local/bin/sipsak -vv -s sip:1000@aoda.de -p steffi.aoda.de |
| 13:42.23 | marno | sorry |
| 13:42.32 | marno | SIPP/200 OK |
| 13:43.53 | syle | i;m guessing cause your prob running a traceroute |
| 13:44.21 | marno | an traceroute? |
| 13:44.21 | MikeJ[Laptop] | syle, ummm, because wifi is a set of standards to send data, which let you send ip, and sip, whil 5.8ghz is just a frequency..... |
| 13:44.26 | marno | and than? |
| 13:44.56 | syle | send data over the frequency |
| 13:44.58 | marno | there are 2 server on the same switch, what should the traceroute tell me? |
| 13:45.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | why? |
| 13:45.24 | MikeJ[Laptop] | what benefit would you get? |
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| 13:45.36 | syle | cause 5.8ghz don;t conflict with every other 2.4 device you have in the area |
| 13:45.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | 802.11a would work, but no one uses it. |
| 13:46.06 | MikeJ[Laptop] | no, 5.8 only conflicts with the 5.8 devices ;) |
| 13:46.11 | syle | well i think its safe to say everyone uses 802.11g now |
| 13:46.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yes, so you couldn't use your 5.8 anywhere |
| 13:47.09 | MikeJ[Laptop] | 802.11a is 5.8 wifi |
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| 13:47.20 | MikeJ[Laptop] | well, whatever |
| 13:47.30 | syle | i thought it was 900 |
| 13:47.41 | queuetue | Does anyone know of a sip paging system? |
| 13:47.41 | MikeJ[Laptop] | no |
| 13:47.53 | MikeJ[Laptop] | queuetue, what does that mean? |
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| 13:48.17 | Madkiss | nroej: I even disabled my packetfilter to test, I created a tcpdump-log ... I am out of ideas |
| 13:48.46 | queuetue | MikeJ[Laptop]: A SIP device that a) auto answers and b) has a very loud speaker attached, and hopefully c) is all-weather.. |
| 13:49.18 | MikeJ[Laptop] | well, you could just drop a sipura on top of a valcom pretty easily... |
| 13:49.23 | MikeJ[Laptop] | same thing |
| 13:49.52 | jeffik | queuetue: aiphone makes voip paging systems |
| 13:49.54 | syle | why would you want to auto answer |
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| 13:50.11 | MikeJ[Laptop] | syle, cuz it's not a phone, it's a paging system |
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| 13:50.45 | MikeJ[Laptop] | jeffik, how do they compare in price to standard analog ones? |
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| 13:51.03 | ZX81 | bah, stupid formula 1 |
| 13:51.15 | radhus | Hello, i need some questions to be cleared out.. |
| 13:51.23 | MikeJ[Laptop] | he? |
| 13:51.26 | MikeJ[Laptop] | naw |
| 13:51.28 | jeffik | Mike: i have not looked at prices, i read the specs recently |
| 13:51.28 | radhus | =] |
| 13:51.34 | danzig | queuetue: you could use a standard SIP phone with headset jack (eg Grandstream GXP2000), program it to auto-answer, attach a big computer loudspeaker, and put the whole thing in a waterproof enclosure |
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| 13:51.45 | MikeJ[Laptop] | interesting devices.... |
| 13:52.01 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I have done a ton with analogs, but had not seen those |
| 13:52.07 | jeffik | Mike: also i think bogen makes them too |
| 13:52.07 | *** part/#asterisk ZX81 (n=ZX81@222-153-118-124.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 13:52.08 | radhus | If i use this app, can i make someone to come to another number? |
| 13:52.15 | radhus | Sorry for the bad english |
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| 13:52.22 | queuetue | danzig: I can think of a few dozen ways to cobble one up (and yours isn't bad) but I'd prefer something designed and tested for the purpose. :) |
| 13:53.04 | queuetue | radhus: You will have to ask your question in more detail. |
| 13:53.26 | radhus | queuetue hehe, okej hold on. just have to think how i should type it ^^ |
| 13:54.09 | MikeJ[Laptop] | radhus, what is "this app" |
| 13:54.11 | radhus | If someone calls to me, and lets say he wants to talk to someone on another number, Do I use Asterisk for this? Does he pay the call, or do i? |
| 13:54.16 | radhus | MikeJ[Laptop] asterisk ? |
| 13:54.48 | MikeJ[Laptop] | radhus, asterisk supports transfering a call |
| 13:55.24 | MikeJ[Laptop] | if it is your asterisk box, and you transfered the call to some outside location that cost you money, it would be costing you money... |
| 13:55.30 | queuetue | radhus: Everyone pays for the line they are using. He pays for his line, you pay for your line and whoever owns the asterisk box pays for that line. Some of those lines can be free or cheap. You need to go read some basic documentation, maybe? |
| 13:55.48 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ~docs |
| 13:55.48 | jbot | i heard docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk |
| 13:55.58 | jeffik | radhus: who pays for the call depends on how the call comes in, if it's from voip, you pay for it, either by the minute or flat rate depenting on the provider |
| 13:56.12 | radhus | okay thanks |
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| 13:57.37 | queuetue | Why does international termination cost so much? Because the market will bear it, or because of actual physical impediments that make it more expensive to terminate in, say, Australia or Brazil? |
| 13:57.37 | radhus | but lets say this is an "normal" call, not an VoIP call. Someone calls to me, and my asterisk box. Can i dial another number at the same time, with help of the asterisk box, or is it impossible? |
| 13:57.43 | radhus | omg my english sux |
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| 13:58.51 | queuetue | radhus: Please go read up a bit. It would take a very long time for us to explain everything you could just go and read. |
| 13:59.05 | radhus | queuetue yes sry, i just saw thet the bot posted som docs :) |
| 13:59.16 | radhus | i will read^^ didnt find any docs before, thx anyway |
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| 14:03.14 | MikeJ[Laptop] | queuetue, monopolies |
| 14:03.41 | MikeJ[Laptop] | international termination is so expensive, because there is only one way in, and they charge a lot |
| 14:04.09 | MikeJ[Laptop] | termination from those countries, to the us is often very cheap, but the other way around is expensive. |
| 14:08.01 | Madkiss | WOHOOOOOOOOO!! |
| 14:08.15 | Madkiss | a self-compiled 1.0.9 asterisk does not show the symptom |
| 14:09.07 | nroej | Madkiss: :-) |
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| 14:10.39 | Borgon | Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl exist? |
| 14:10.47 | Borgon | I checked the dir and .ctl exist |
| 14:11.49 | drray | did you start asterisk? |
| 14:12.02 | danzig | borgon: type asterisk -vvv and it will print out what it is doing during startup. You will probably find it dies at some point and tells you why. |
| 14:13.05 | Madkiss | Now the interesting question is whether chan_capi is the culprit, or some other thing |
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| 14:18.47 | aussieasteriskbo | anyone arounf? |
| 14:18.51 | aussieasteriskbo | anyone around? |
| 14:19.09 | jeffik | hi aussie: |
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| 14:19.55 | aussieasteriskbo | hi |
| 14:20.22 | aussieasteriskbo | im kinda stuck |
| 14:20.31 | jeffik | aussie: is it like an aterisk kangaroo? |
| 14:20.46 | aussieasteriskbo | :) |
| 14:20.51 | jeffik | aussie: I'm an aah user but i'll try |
| 14:20.51 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 14:20.52 | jbot | docs is, like, Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk |
| 14:20.53 | ManxPower | ~mailinglist |
| 14:20.53 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, mailinglist is Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/ |
| 14:21.01 | Ariel_ | morning everyone |
| 14:21.12 | rem | Venez sur mon blog: images hot garantis ;) http://http://www.idpz.net/tomytom/myblog.htm |
| 14:21.14 | jeffik | Ariel: Hi |
| 14:21.46 | aussieasteriskbo | manxpower... know where I can get some documentaion on how to use astcc along with asterisk?? |
| 14:21.48 | Ariel_ | wow how did the spmamer get on |
| 14:22.16 | Ariel_ | aussieasteriskbo, the wiki has lots of information on astcc |
| 14:22.32 | aussieasteriskbo | voip info ??? |
| 14:23.05 | ManxPower | aussieasteriskbo: No idea. |
| 14:23.30 | ManxPower | aussieasteriskbo: See that link to voip-info.org? That's what we call, oddly enough, "voip info" |
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| 14:25.35 | aussieasteriskbo | been through it with a toothpick.. |
| 14:25.46 | aussieasteriskbo | there is instalation instractions.. |
| 14:26.19 | aussieasteriskbo | but I cant find any info on how to actually set it up so it can run along with asterisk |
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| 14:43.56 | Borgon | hello |
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| 14:44.17 | Borgon | asteriskwin32 vs astwind , who wins? |
| 14:45.05 | [hC] | hey guys.. Is there anything i can do to track down/solve why some extensions will go into UNREACHABLE state every now and then? * is on a public ip, clients are natted, however i have clients from various spots and it only seems to happen to a few of them, however the same ones |
| 14:45.07 | Ariel_ | Asterisk does non of the ones that run under windows are for actually use. |
| 14:45.19 | [hC] | i checked, they all have nat=yes, qualify=yes, they have nat keepalive turned on on their side.. |
| 14:45.56 | Borgon | Ariel_: yeah but if you had the choice which woudl you use? I am not using this in a production enviornment so stability isnt an issue |
| 14:46.11 | Ariel_ | [hC], change qualify=yes to qualify=45 |
| 14:46.20 | Ariel_ | Borgon, none |
| 14:46.32 | [hC] | Ariel_: i thought the default if you didnt specify was 2 seconds? |
| 14:46.33 | Ariel_ | Asterisk does not belong in a windows system |
| 14:47.01 | Ariel_ | [hC], I don't think so |
| 14:47.11 | [hC] | Ariel_: I'll give it a try.. thanks |
| 14:47.14 | Borgon | Anyone else.. asteriskwin32 vs astwind .. whick takes the prize? |
| 14:47.30 | Ariel_ | Borgon, why would you want to run it in windows? |
| 14:47.31 | ManxPower | Ariel_: why change it to 45? |
| 14:47.32 | [hC] | Borgon: use linux? |
| 14:47.49 | ManxPower | You don't normally want qualify to be a low number. |
| 14:48.03 | Borgon | [hC] thtas not an option |
| 14:48.06 | ManxPower | Borgon: Neither one. |
| 14:48.08 | [hC] | yeah i thought qualify= was what it deemed the safe number to accept a call |
| 14:48.09 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, I have found allot of routers turn off the connection after 60 sec. 45 keeps it open for you. |
| 14:48.28 | ManxPower | Ariel_: Um, the number is NOT how often to send the OPTIONS packet. |
| 14:48.30 | surfdue | cansomeone recommend a good sip client with working dtmf, becides x-lite, x-lite seems to give us cracleing and codec issues |
| 14:48.35 | Ariel_ | Borgon, then you got a problem |
| 14:48.53 | [hC] | ManxPower: which one is? :) |
| 14:49.06 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, ok so why does it work with netgear routers and others that time out allot. |
| 14:49.37 | ManxPower | Ariel_: 45 means "the device must respond to an options packet within 45ms or we will consider them lagged". |
| 14:49.46 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Borgon, you do not have any zapel support on any of the windows implementations at the moment.. |
| 14:49.52 | [hC] | From what I understood, qualify=## sets it so that devices that show up greater than ## will be deemed TOO LAGGED to call |
| 14:50.01 | MikeJ[Laptop] | so you don't have support for anything that currently requires zaptel timing |
| 14:50.04 | ManxPower | Asterisk will send the OPTIONS packet for qualify just as often with qualify-25 as it will for qualify=10000 |
| 14:50.17 | MikeJ[Laptop] | this includes meetme, iax tunking, some MOH. |
| 14:50.32 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, thank you learn something everyday here. |
| 14:50.36 | MikeJ[Laptop] | and also means you can't support any digium hardware |
| 14:50.50 | [hC] | ManxPower: so, how can i make it send the options packet in shorter intervals? I read something about it being 2 by default, which is why im shocked that these things keep going into unreachaable |
| 14:50.55 | ManxPower | Ariel_: I don't know how often the options packet is send, but I'm pretty sure it's more often than once per min |
| 14:51.08 | Ariel_ | Borgon, asterisk on a windows system is more for demo testing. Asterisk requires real time access which windows can't give it. |
| 14:51.09 | ManxPower | [hC]: you change the source code. |
| 14:51.17 | [hC] | I read on voip-info that the default was 2 seconds. |
| 14:51.17 | MikeJ[Laptop] | also, performance on the windows version is not as good as on the linux versions... that's just from my quick testing of my cygwin port |
| 14:51.25 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Ariel_, that's not true |
| 14:51.31 | MikeJ[Laptop] | windows can do realtime |
| 14:51.48 | MikeJ[Laptop] | as much as regular linux can |
| 14:51.53 | Ariel_ | MikeJ[Laptop], sure it can with asterisk... |
| 14:51.56 | MikeJ[Laptop] | cygwin is a different story |
| 14:51.58 | ManxPower | Also if you run an Windows "port" of Astrisk, NOBODY will be able to help you when you have problems. |
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| 14:52.19 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ManxPower, the cygwin stuff is working into the tree.. slowly |
| 14:52.35 | ManxPower | MikeJ[Laptop]: Now THAT is a crime against nature. |
| 14:52.40 | MikeJ[Laptop] | but I can say with knowledge, it works, but will not scale |
| 14:52.49 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ManxPower, os wars.. blah.. whatever |
| 14:53.14 | ManxPower | MikeJ[Laptop]: Asterisk is (unless they changed it) oficially only supported on Linux. Any other OS and you are on your own. |
| 14:53.23 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yes and no |
| 14:53.31 | ManxPower | i.e. can you buy consulting services for Asterisk on *BSD or Windows? |
| 14:53.38 | MikeJ[Laptop] | digium only supports linux.. |
| 14:53.44 | ManxPower | (sorry, can you buy consulting services from Digium....) |
| 14:53.57 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yes |
| 14:54.21 | MikeJ[Laptop] | but the bsd and solaris support is growning, and there are many using it on hat. |
| 14:54.23 | MikeJ[Laptop] | that |
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| 14:55.26 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I personally would not run a production box on either of the available windows ports (astwin really isnt windows, it's colinux, which is basically linux in vmware, which I would not even think of trying to run somthing on) |
| 14:55.37 | Ariel_ | is there not a place other then here for this type of talk. |
| 14:55.54 | MikeJ[Laptop] | about asterisk support on other platforms? |
| 14:56.12 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I think this is an appropriate forum.. |
| 14:56.29 | MikeJ[Laptop] | about bs, my os is better than yours I think there is probably a better place |
| 14:56.39 | ManxPower | Naw, talk about asterisk on non-linux OSs is for #asterisk-lamers |
| 14:56.40 | ManxPower | 8-) |
| 14:56.50 | MikeJ[Laptop] | see, like that, |
| 14:56.55 | MikeJ[Laptop] | that;s just rude. |
| 14:57.10 | ManxPower | MikeJ[Laptop]: There are many GREAT OSs out there, just not great for Asterisk. |
| 14:57.25 | ManxPower | Personally I like what I've heard about OSX, but I'd never run Asterisk on it. |
| 14:57.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ManxPower, osx has other issues with scaling asterisk |
| 14:57.52 | MikeJ[Laptop] | but bsd and solaris should not |
| 14:58.10 | MikeJ[Laptop] | and are very close to being as fully supported as linux |
| 14:58.17 | ManxPower | If I didn't to linux and network consulting for a living I'd be using OSX for my desktop machine. |
| 14:58.18 | MikeJ[Laptop] | in the codbase at lease |
| 14:58.20 | MikeJ[Laptop] | least |
| 14:58.44 | RaYmAn-Bx | MikeJ[Laptop]: the hardware still isn't well supported is it? |
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| 14:59.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | the only things that make bsd and solaris less atractive at this point are a couple of issues with threading, and digiums lack of interest in supporting the hardware cross platform.. |
| 15:00.09 | Ariel_ | I still don't understand why would you want to use it on something other then what's mainly made for. |
| 15:00.21 | MikeJ[Laptop] | flexability is good. |
| 15:00.40 | MikeJ[Laptop] | why would you run it other than on the specific distro that digium uses? |
| 15:00.45 | ManxPower | Ariel_: I think it's because people don't want to use an OS they are not familiar with. |
| 15:00.52 | Ariel_ | in a biz model it's not good to have that many things to support |
| 15:00.55 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ManxPower, I agree |
| 15:01.22 | MikeJ[Laptop] | in a bizness model, it's good to support what your customers pay you to support. |
| 15:01.25 | jedirl | MikeJ[Laptop]: solaris has no issues with threads, has the best threading model in any OS |
| 15:01.48 | Ariel_ | you can't be everything for everyone you need to learn how to say no. |
| 15:02.04 | MikeJ[Laptop] | jedirl, as it relates to the specific way some things are done in asterisk, they need to be done slightly differently, and are not at the moment |
| 15:02.15 | jedirl | MikeJ[Laptop]: ah ok |
| 15:03.47 | ausmedia | with asterisk, when i use the computer to dial people on their normal lan line, do i have to pay for it? |
| 15:03.55 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Ariel_, that's fine, but it also narrows market share... |
| 15:04.45 | Ariel_ | MikeJ[Laptop], yes your right. But since I don't know solaris nor BSD I am not going to offer my services via those OS. There is limites to everyones time and cost. |
| 15:04.57 | MikeJ[Laptop] | sure |
| 15:05.01 | Ariel_ | ausmedia, it depends on the route your sending your call. |
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| 15:05.54 | Ariel_ | and if your expecting free support you should take into account where you can get that and which has the most people that can help. |
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| 15:06.06 | MikeJ[Laptop] | the real answer on astwin32 is it runs on cygwin, which is a compatability layer on top of windows... by design it can not perform well |
| 15:06.19 | ausmedia | i just found out about asterisk an hour ago, so there might be some questions that is really for newbie, sorry if it bothers you. |
| 15:06.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I wasn't talking about free support, I was talking about hardware support... |
| 15:07.02 | Ariel_ | MikeJ[Laptop], ok |
| 15:07.37 | Ariel_ | ausmedia, your question was too generic. Asterisk can setup calls to others via the internet which will not directly cost you money |
| 15:08.07 | *** part/#asterisk ManxPower (n=eric@dsl-209-16-67-160.datasync.com) |
| 15:08.16 | dvk | MikeJ - re-installed asterisk and successfully made first "behind firewall" calls last night! |
| 15:08.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | dvk... congrats |
| 15:08.52 | ausmedia | Ariel_: to my understanding so far, you setup asterisk on the linux box, configure it to work with a compatible VOIP phone, setup the PCI card, and lastly just configure additional services you like asterisk to do right??? |
| 15:09.01 | dvk | cheers - thanks for help |
| 15:09.07 | Ariel_ | there 343 people connected here wow have not see these numbers in over a year. |
| 15:09.42 | Ariel_ | ausmedia, yes you got the basic down. |
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| 15:10.38 | ausmedia | thanks for th confirmation, cause i got no idea how telephone system works, all those AIX and SIP, i got no idea what they do. |
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| 15:11.12 | Ariel_ | ausmedia, what would you like to do? |
| 15:11.39 | ausmedia | am looking at setting a telephone support system for my clients |
| 15:11.48 | dvk | ausmedia - it can be tricky setting it up - took me approx. 4 hours to do VoIP behind firewall only. Now working on installing PCI card to make enable use of analog equipment. |
| 15:12.45 | ausmedia | that's alright dvk, i don't mine spending days on this if it works out |
| 15:13.40 | ausmedia | main tasks i like to perform are: receive calls from clients (identify who they are before i pick up the phone would be nice, of course i will have their number store inside the address book) |
| 15:13.58 | ausmedia | 2. call back to them at no cost |
| 15:14.42 | ausmedia | 3. setup one of those robot thing where they choose what kind support they require |
| 15:14.51 | dvk | A new asterisk book has been released - I am going to buy it - you may be interested |
| 15:14.54 | ausmedia | like options u get when u call up a support line |
| 15:14.57 | MikeJ[Laptop] | once you get it setup, and start playing with it, it all starts to make sense |
| 15:15.17 | ausmedia | dvk: really? where can i find that boook |
| 15:15.18 | MikeJ[Laptop] | you really need to read the available docs, and start tinkering |
| 15:15.28 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ~docs |
| 15:15.28 | jbot | docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk |
| 15:15.30 | ausmedia | yes that's what am doing right now. |
| 15:15.54 | MikeJ[Laptop] | the oreilly book comes out in sept last I have seen |
| 15:15.54 | dvk | o'reilly is the published - I think its simply called Asterisk |
| 15:15.57 | DarthClue | use the wiki! The wiki is pretty clear on what to do and how to do it and what you want is a pretty simple and straight-forward thing to do. |
| 15:16.01 | ausmedia | thanks mike, am reading a few of those website riht now |
| 15:16.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I'm reading about buildbot |
| 15:16.38 | ausmedia | DarthClue: thanks |
| 15:16.52 | dvk | MikeJ - suggest any good debugging options/tools for configuring analog dial-out? |
| 15:17.25 | Ariel_ | ausmedia, next is to get your own box up and star testing. |
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| 15:19.03 | Ariel_ | dvk, what are the problems your getting. What analog devices for dialing out are you using? |
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| 15:20.53 | dvk | Digium TDM400 - 1 FXO, 1 FXS - not able to dial-out using IP handset. Tried calling dial from CLI prompt - but seeing some strang behaviour. I think the card is installed properly. |
| 15:21.34 | Ariel_ | dvk, what are you getting on the cli when you try to dial out? |
| 15:22.05 | dvk | dial 07817109816@analog-dialout |
| 15:22.05 | dvk | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:22.05 | dvk | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:22.05 | dvk | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:22.05 | dvk | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:22.11 | ausmedia | am using cable at home, i suppose that good enough for the whole system? |
| 15:22.53 | dvk | but dialled phone doesn't ring! |
| 15:22.54 | Ariel_ | ausmedia, cable systems do work. |
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| 15:24.18 | Madkiss | YES |
| 15:24.22 | ausmedia | Ariel_: my isp shouldn't have anything to do with setting up asterisk right? |
| 15:24.26 | dvk | I stripped the analog-dialout context down to the minimum for the purposes of troubleshooting |
| 15:24.43 | Madkiss | nroej: I have FreeBSD/asterisk working correctly now -- I removed two patches from sourcecode, so the problem must be somewhere in these two piecees of code |
| 15:25.11 | Ariel_ | ausmedia, unless they do some port blocking you should be able to get it working. |
| 15:25.24 | Ariel_ | dvk, what is the dialing rule you have? exten => |
| 15:25.59 | ausmedia | Ariel_: could you please tell me some ports that Asterisk require? i will check it with my isp |
| 15:26.19 | dvk | exten => 07817109816,1,Dial(Zap/2) |
| 15:26.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | dvk, I don't use oss... |
| 15:26.50 | MikeJ[Laptop] | just use a softphone to test |
| 15:26.57 | Ariel_ | ausmedia, the wiki has the complete list. But IAX2 uses 4569, 22 for ssh to remote access for trouble shooting, 5060/61 for sip registration and 10,000 to 20,000 for rtp |
| 15:28.02 | dvk | basic question - what is OSS? |
| 15:28.09 | ausmedia | that sounds okay, not the common ports that most others use. |
| 15:28.20 | MikeJ[Laptop] | oss is sound card. |
| 15:29.45 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ausmedia, those are the common ports |
| 15:30.06 | dvk | I ain't got one - is there an easy way to stop "Dial" calling OSS? |
| 15:30.14 | Ariel_ | ausmedia, most of the ports used for voip are opened already. |
| 15:30.24 | MikeJ[Laptop] | just do it in the dialplan, not using the dial cli command |
| 15:30.43 | MikeJ[Laptop] | or go to pbffreeware and grab app_originate |
| 15:30.55 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it lets you dial from one chan to another at the cli |
| 15:31.17 | MikeJ[Laptop] | QUITERS! |
| 15:31.28 | DarthClue | http://www.pbxfreeware.com |
| 15:31.30 | tzanger | MikeJ[Laptop]: heh |
| 15:31.48 | MikeJ[Laptop] | heh.. what DarthClue said.. I can't type this morning |
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| 15:33.30 | dvk | I was using the dial cli command to troubleshoot configuration - is this not recommended? |
| 15:33.54 | MikeJ[Laptop] | not without an oss device ;) |
| 15:33.55 | ausmedia | anyone: does asterisk help with the keeping customer's details, duration, cause am looking at billing them for certain durations and so forth. |
| 15:34.27 | DarthClue | wiki wiki, bah, bah wiki bah bah! |
| 15:34.27 | MikeJ[Laptop] | cdr |
| 15:34.37 | Ariel_ | ausmedia, there are many billing packages for asterisk |
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| 15:34.48 | ausmedia | oh really? |
| 15:35.01 | MikeJ[Laptop] | no, he's just kidding ;) |
| 15:35.02 | Ariel_ | ~doc |
| 15:35.02 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk |
| 15:35.08 | Madkiss | Is some asterisk coder here actually? |
| 15:35.29 | MikeJ[Laptop] | maybe... depends on what you need |
| 15:36.04 | Madkiss | http://madkiss.org/asterisk/ One of these two pieces of code breaks asterisk on FreeBSD, resulting in SIP calls being terminated after 5-25 seconds for no obvious reason |
| 15:36.26 | MikeJ[Laptop] | what version of asterisk? |
| 15:36.32 | Madkiss | 1.0.9 |
| 15:37.04 | ausmedia | say for example, a client call for support, approximately 10 hours for one month, i would like to know that so i can send them a bill at the end of the month |
| 15:37.21 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Madkiss, same thing on head or no? |
| 15:37.35 | faa_ | hm/ |
| 15:37.35 | Madkiss | MikeJ[Laptop]: I've not testet that |
| 15:37.40 | Madkiss | tested, that is. |
| 15:37.54 | MikeJ[Laptop] | well.. pastebin a sip debug and verbose of the call cutting off |
| 15:38.14 | dvk | Ariel: did you look at dial plan? |
| 15:38.20 | MikeJ[Laptop] | cuz that page you posted ha no linebreaks, I can read it at all |
| 15:38.37 | Madkiss | MikeJ[Laptop]: err? What line? |
| 15:38.49 | MikeJ[Laptop] | no linebreaks... |
| 15:38.55 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it's all just run together |
| 15:38.56 | Madkiss | What line? |
| 15:39.02 | MikeJ[Laptop] | none, at all |
| 15:39.12 | Madkiss | Err, are you in windows? |
| 15:39.15 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yeah |
| 15:39.17 | MikeJ[Laptop] | this box is |
| 15:39.33 | MikeJ[Laptop] | blah |
| 15:40.18 | MikeJ[Laptop] | and what is the patch for? |
| 15:40.33 | ausmedia | thank guys, looks like asterisk is the way to go |
| 15:40.36 | ausmedia | cheers! |
| 15:41.45 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I love how people asking for help then insult you... |
| 15:41.51 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ok.. good luck then |
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| 15:44.08 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Nix! |
| 15:44.14 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hello peter |
| 15:44.19 | DarthClue | MikeJ[Laptop]: that's why i've adopted the silent filter. I filter requests based on how they are asked and how well they read the wiki. It isn't difficult to find an answer using google and the wiki and most of the beginners should start with the wiki. |
| 15:44.38 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I like to be helpful.. |
| 15:44.53 | MikeJ[Laptop] | but if people don't appretiate it... so be it |
| 15:45.07 | DarthClue | MikeJ[Laptop]: I do to. but if you don't teach them to use the wiki then they will never learn for themselves. |
| 15:46.00 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I do, but I will also try to explain some of the basics, for some it is what they need to have that "a-ha" moment of understanding |
| 15:47.00 | DarthClue | yeah, catch me on a good day or night and i do the same. but those are few and far between recently. |
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| 15:48.29 | darkskiez | why cant * punch through nat firewalls without forwarding ports back, other soft phones can, what is the difference? |
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| 15:48.57 | MikeJ[Laptop] | darkskiez, depends |
| 15:49.13 | MikeJ[Laptop] | for inbound ports, there needs to be a path in... |
| 15:49.32 | darkskiez | MikeJ: yeh, but if u send a UDP packet out, that sets up a path back. |
| 15:49.33 | MikeJ[Laptop] | softphones do not take inbound registrations, asterisk does. |
| 15:49.54 | MikeJ[Laptop] | that is what the port forwards are needed for |
| 15:50.01 | darkskiez | MikeJ: I dont need that. |
| 15:50.07 | MikeJ[Laptop] | then don't forward |
| 15:50.22 | darkskiez | MikeJ: I can make and receive phones calls, but the problem I have is with the RTP streams |
| 15:50.31 | MikeJ[Laptop] | if you don't have a need to take inbound calls from anything you don't register too |
| 15:50.33 | Huehner | 1 |
| 15:50.55 | MikeJ[Laptop] | darkskiez, then you have asterisk misconfigured, or a junky firewall |
| 15:51.22 | darkskiez | MikeJ: it works with xlite, i've been examining the traffic with ethereal |
| 15:51.36 | darkskiez | MikeJ: trying to figure out whats different |
| 15:51.56 | MikeJ[Laptop] | sip? |
| 15:52.00 | darkskiez | yeh |
| 15:52.12 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ok, externip and localnet set in sip.conf? |
| 15:52.23 | darkskiez | yeh, tried settting and unsetting those |
| 15:52.28 | MikeJ[Laptop] | nat=yes, canreinvite=no |
| 15:52.34 | MikeJ[Laptop] | bbiab.. |
| 15:54.36 | surfdue | can anyone tell me a good sip client? |
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| 15:54.51 | surfdue | becides xlite- and kphone |
| 15:54.56 | surfdue | and linphone |
| 15:55.10 | pr0m | i can't seem to get asterisk to make calls with broadvoice. |
| 15:55.15 | surfdue | becuase kphone dosnt have dtmf, linphone dosnt work, and xlite makes cracling noises |
| 15:55.27 | pr0m | anyone got experience with broadvoice? |
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| 15:55.29 | shido6 | xlite doesnt make the crackling its your mic |
| 15:55.38 | shido6 | and/or soundcard |
| 15:55.38 | surfdue | no |
| 15:55.41 | surfdue | its niehter |
| 15:55.44 | surfdue | skype works fine. |
| 15:55.50 | surfdue | its super clear on both ends. |
| 15:56.04 | shido6 | what codec does your skype use? |
| 15:56.08 | surfdue | um |
| 15:56.10 | surfdue | im not sure |
| 15:56.12 | surfdue | how do i tell |
| 15:56.16 | airwolf | has anyone try to do 1 step dialing to a FXO port(gateway)? |
| 15:56.34 | shido6 | airwolf, its dialplan logic. |
| 15:56.37 | Ariel_ | pr0m, yes I have customers that use b/v |
| 15:56.43 | airwolf | i tried to use option D(xxx) in Dial command but it doesnt work |
| 15:56.59 | shido6 | dunno, dont use skype |
| 15:57.04 | pr0m | Ariel_: i followed the instructions at broadvoice and their not working. do you have any suggestions? |
| 15:57.13 | airwolf | then i tried SEND DTMF, it doenst work too |
| 15:57.18 | pr0m | Ariel_: i'm using CVS-HEAD currently. |
| 15:57.22 | airwolf | any clue? |
| 15:57.26 | Ariel_ | pr0m, are you registered with them? |
| 15:57.35 | pr0m | yea. i signed up last night. |
| 15:57.41 | surfdue | shido6, it uses te defauilt |
| 15:57.42 | surfdue | dsp |
| 15:57.45 | Ariel_ | pr0m, sip show registry |
| 15:57.53 | pr0m | hmm. just a sec. |
| 15:57.55 | surfdue | and xlite uses the defualt, but yet gives cracling |
| 15:58.04 | surfdue | it not my connection, could it me asterisk? |
| 15:58.10 | airwolf | i monitor from the gateway it just receive 1 tone |
| 15:58.14 | surfdue | when it ringgs i allso hear cracling |
| 15:58.20 | airwolf | have anyone tried that? |
| 15:58.42 | airwolf | i am trying to link the PBX to my Asterisk box |
| 15:58.54 | pr0m | is it possible to connect to the asterisk console without restarting asterisk in the current window? |
| 15:59.08 | shido6 | yes |
| 15:59.14 | pr0m | how? |
| 15:59.23 | shido6 | run safe_asterisk <--- will respawn when it dies |
| 15:59.23 | surfdue | shido6, any response |
| 15:59.34 | shido6 | or you can simply run asterisk |
| 15:59.37 | shido6 | then use asterisk -r |
| 15:59.39 | shido6 | to reconnect |
| 15:59.43 | pr0m | hmm. |
| 15:59.56 | shido6 | surfdue, codec |
| 16:00.01 | surfdue | how |
| 16:00.02 | surfdue | what? |
| 16:00.03 | shido6 | g729, g711, gsm, ilbc |
| 16:00.05 | surfdue | what do i do |
| 16:00.05 | surfdue | yes |
| 16:00.08 | surfdue | i use gsm |
| 16:00.08 | shido6 | :) |
| 16:00.11 | shido6 | in skype? |
| 16:00.14 | surfdue | and our server is setup to use gsm |
| 16:00.14 | pr0m | kick ass. |
| 16:00.14 | surfdue | no |
| 16:00.18 | surfdue | in skype it dosnt use it? |
| 16:00.19 | pr0m | shido6: thanks. |
| 16:00.21 | surfdue | it uses dsp? |
| 16:00.23 | surfdue | the defualt |
| 16:01.10 | surfdue | i dont have a soundcard |
| 16:01.13 | surfdue | mines on my motherboard |
| 16:01.18 | surfdue | ive never downloaded a soiund driver |
| 16:01.20 | surfdue | or anything |
| 16:01.22 | pr0m | Ariel_: huh. i guess that i'm not registered with broadvoice. the connection isn't listed with 'sip show registry' |
| 16:01.23 | surfdue | am i supose to? |
| 16:01.58 | surfdue | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME |
| 16:01.58 | surfdue | skype 9061 surfdue 31u CHR 14,3 7425 /dev/dsp |
| 16:02.40 | surfdue | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME |
| 16:02.40 | surfdue | xtensoftp 9220 surfdue 12u CHR 14,3 7425 /dev/dsp |
| 16:02.51 | surfdue | is there a diffence betwwen skype and xtensoft? |
| 16:02.54 | surfdue | x-lite |
| 16:03.05 | MikeJ[Laptop] | surfdue, sure.. |
| 16:03.14 | surfdue | what is the fd mean? |
| 16:03.14 | MikeJ[Laptop] | many |
| 16:03.16 | surfdue | FD |
| 16:03.27 | surfdue | no, mike im talking about in those lines i pasted |
| 16:03.34 | surfdue | does it show skype using a diffrent codec |
| 16:03.39 | surfdue | becuase skype works clear |
| 16:03.40 | surfdue | xlite dosnt |
| 16:04.01 | surfdue | when i click one like line 1 |
| 16:04.04 | surfdue | it does dialtone |
| 16:04.10 | surfdue | and there is cracling in the backgroun |
| 16:04.13 | Ariel_ | pr0m, you followed the directions here: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20settings%20Broadvoice |
| 16:04.15 | surfdue | on xlite |
| 16:04.31 | shido6 | is your sound turned up too much/ |
| 16:04.38 | surfdue | nop |
| 16:04.45 | shido6 | what kind of mic are you using? |
| 16:05.40 | surfdue | in the audio tuning wizard on xlite |
| 16:05.47 | surfdue | when it plays my vouice back it is choppy |
| 16:05.48 | surfdue | some |
| 16:05.57 | darkskiez | MikeJ[Laptop]: i'd forgotton canreinvite=no, cheers muchimus. |
| 16:06.09 | MikeJ[Laptop] | darkskiez, better now? |
| 16:06.11 | surfdue | altec landsing, sound cancelling |
| 16:06.43 | darkskiez | MikeJ[Laptop]: yeh, i had to disable externip tho, doesnt seem to register successfully with that on :/ |
| 16:07.05 | darkskiez | and nat=no |
| 16:07.20 | MikeJ[Laptop] | your behind nat, and that works? |
| 16:07.59 | darkskiez | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:08.28 | darkskiez | so, nat=no, means handle nats properly |
| 16:08.29 | darkskiez | weird |
| 16:08.37 | pr0m | Ariel_: yes. except i'm running CVS-HEAD instead of release v1-0. |
| 16:08.57 | surfdue | hey i think i foudn my problem |
| 16:09.02 | surfdue | my system i setup with ALSA |
| 16:09.03 | surfdue | and ESD |
| 16:09.08 | pr0m | Ariel_: btw, i just reloaded by config and broadvoice is registered now. |
| 16:09.11 | surfdue | but for some reason each provide errors |
| 16:09.18 | surfdue | when i go to sound recorded also gives and error |
| 16:09.20 | surfdue | so does esd |
| 16:09.29 | surfdue | how do i fix my audio driver/codec issues |
| 16:10.42 | pr0m | Ariel_: hmmm. 'sip show peers' indicates that NAT may not be configured properly. |
| 16:12.01 | pr0m | Ariel_: my asterisk server is definitely behind nat. i'm forwarding all ports from my outside gateway to that box. |
| 16:12.46 | surfdue | anyone? |
| 16:14.27 | shido6 | ? |
| 16:14.31 | shido6 | great... |
| 16:14.36 | shido6 | another nat :) |
| 16:14.43 | shido6 | what ports |
| 16:14.46 | shido6 | are you forwarding... |
| 16:14.59 | DarthClue | surfdue: did you install a driver for your soundcard? |
| 16:15.18 | pr0m | Ariel_: should the context [sip.broadvoice.com] in sip.conf be set for incoming or outgoing calls? i use defaultin and defaultout respectively depending on the situation. |
| 16:16.18 | Druken | shido6: don't ya just LOVE NAT ? |
| 16:16.32 | surfdue | no |
| 16:16.45 | surfdue | how do i get a driver, for a sound card built into a motherboard |
| 16:16.53 | surfdue | well first, how do i findout what should card i have? |
| 16:16.58 | surfdue | like the brand? |
| 16:17.01 | surfdue | is ther a command |
| 16:17.52 | DarthClue | surfdue: you will need to know those details about your hardware. if you don't, shut the box down and get a screwdriver and go looking. |
| 16:18.21 | surfdue | i cant |
| 16:18.22 | Druken | mmmmm, screwdrivers.... |
| 16:18.28 | surfdue | there is no name or ANYTHING On it |
| 16:18.37 | surfdue | i think its an asus motherboard. |
| 16:18.45 | surfdue | im sure there is a command to find that out |
| 16:18.48 | surfdue | windows had it. |
| 16:18.50 | Druken | lspci and look for the soundcard |
| 16:18.52 | surfdue | linxu should |
| 16:19.16 | DarthClue | surfdue: there is always a way to find out the info by looking at the hardware and it is usually pretty simple. worst case scenario, try the fccid |
| 16:19.21 | surfdue | ill pastebin the output ok mate? |
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| 16:19.45 | surfdue | http://pastebin.com/342332 |
| 16:20.12 | surfdue | IM thinking this is what we are looking for: # |
| 16:20.13 | surfdue | 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Sound Controller (rev a0) |
| 16:20.14 | surfdue | correct? |
| 16:20.34 | dvk | can anyone confirm that PCMU is equivalent to the ulaw codec? |
| 16:21.15 | Druken | surfdue: yeah, it's a SIS soundcard |
| 16:21.22 | surfdue | good? |
| 16:21.34 | mango_ripe | PCMU = G.711ulaw |
| 16:21.42 | surfdue | is there a package for sis drivers? |
| 16:21.56 | surfdue | im searching apt-cache |
| 16:22.01 | surfdue | anysuggestions would be nice :) |
| 16:22.15 | dvk | cheers |
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| 16:23.04 | Druken | surfdue: i have no idea what your trying todo... i just told ya how to find out your sound... |
| 16:23.09 | Druken | the rest is up to you :) |
| 16:23.19 | surfdue | lol |
| 16:23.24 | surfdue | is tehre a sond driver i can get? |
| 16:23.34 | Hogie | probably, if you recompile your kernel with it |
| 16:23.57 | Druken | isn't sis built into most default kernels? |
| 16:24.23 | Hogie | what if he doesn't have a default kernel? |
| 16:25.41 | Druken | something tells me he does :) |
| 16:25.44 | syle | omg its sunday |
| 16:25.59 | syle | holy fuck i was sittin here doing shit like it was monday |
| 16:26.14 | Hogie | I need to take pictures of my uber sodering skills at work, I made a headphone jack to external speaker cable at work, and it runs over 70 feet to the speaker, im so happy.... |
| 16:26.34 | Hogie | it is monday here... |
| 16:26.58 | syle | your on the east side of the world? |
| 16:27.07 | dvk | codec issues "Unable to find a codec translation path from g723 to ulaw" - anyone? |
| 16:27.24 | file[lap1op] | Asterisk doesn't support transcoding from g723 to ulaw |
| 16:27.27 | file[lap1op] | or from ulaw to g723 |
| 16:27.46 | syle | isn;t that alaw |
| 16:28.00 | file[lap1op] | g723 is not alaw |
| 16:28.09 | file[lap1op] | G723 is a highly compressed highly CPU intensive codec |
| 16:28.14 | file[lap1op] | with a high cost |
| 16:28.21 | Hogie | g723 = gay |
| 16:28.32 | dvk | ok - so I changed my handset device to PCMU codec but still get the same error! Any thoughts? |
| 16:28.44 | file[lap1op] | something is using G723, fix it so it's not using G723 |
| 16:28.54 | file[lap1op] | be it a sip.conf issue, or your handset device |
| 16:29.14 | dvk | Could it be digium tdm400? |
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| 16:29.28 | mango_ripe | just disallow it in sip.conf |
| 16:29.35 | Hogie | is it wasteful to run ulaw on all your phones on your lan? |
| 16:29.45 | file[lap1op] | Hogie: no, it's a LAN |
| 16:29.49 | file[lap1op] | bandwidth doesn't matter |
| 16:29.53 | file[lap1op] | well |
| 16:29.53 | file[lap1op] | usually |
| 16:30.06 | drray | for the most part |
| 16:30.06 | Hogie | I can't wait until we move, im gonna vlan everything correctly |
| 16:30.27 | Hogie | have a switch for the voice stuff, and a switch for the computers |
| 16:31.51 | Hogie | of course, that will help keep people from unpluggin their passthru to their computers also |
| 16:34.24 | airwolf | sorry for my late reply |
| 16:34.25 | airwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.25 | airwolf | i register the FXO port to asterisk |
| 16:34.25 | airwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.25 | airwolf | the PSTN line is connected to the FXO port of the gateway |
| 16:34.25 | airwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.27 | airwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.29 | airwolf | first dial the extension which represent the FXO port |
| 16:34.31 | airwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.33 | airwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.35 | airwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.37 | airwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.40 | airwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.42 | airwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.44 | airwolf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:35.12 | netsurfer | uhmm.. trying to install zaptel here, keep getting errors that I do not appear to have the kernel sources installed.. how can I tell where it is looking for them? (they are installed) |
| 16:35.12 | Hogie | Dial(ZAP/g1/{EXTEN:4}) |
| 16:35.18 | dvk | disallowed as guided - and it worked - thanks everyone |
| 16:35.27 | Hogie | if your zap's are in a group 1 |
| 16:36.04 | Hogie | er, ${EXTEN:4} |
| 16:36.06 | Hogie | sorry |
| 16:37.56 | syle | http://64.70.241.60/Bodybouncer.wmv |
| 16:41.13 | hugo-v6 | syle: do you sell this or why do you promote this like hell? :> |
| 16:41.37 | syle | i think its a kick ass video hehe |
| 16:41.54 | hugo-v6 | indeed |
| 16:41.56 | hugo-v6 | it is |
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| 16:44.27 | Nix_napping | is it worth wasting my bandwidth to see? |
| 16:44.59 | bkw_ | let me check it |
| 16:46.03 | bkw_ | Allison sent me one that was funny as hell |
| 16:46.05 | *** join/#asterisk lai (n=airwolf_@adsl211.dyn232.pacific.net.sg) |
| 16:47.30 | bkw_ | OMG |
| 16:47.34 | bkw_ | thats not right |
| 16:47.46 | darkskiez | its good, but its not right. |
| 16:47.52 | bkw_ | Nix_napping, download it |
| 16:48.00 | h3x0r | unbelievable |
| 16:48.05 | Hogie | wow, I was cleaning up this morning, and found a 250gig drive, still in box from factory refurb |
| 16:48.07 | h3x0r | now the FCC is requiring CALEA for VoIP providers |
| 16:48.15 | h3x0r | how the hell are we going to d othat |
| 16:48.51 | darkskiez | they also want triangulation in WiFi access points |
| 16:48.59 | Madkiss | bkw_: Are you an asterisk coder? ;-) |
| 16:49.00 | darkskiez | and GPS in voip wifi handsets |
| 16:49.06 | pr0m | i'm getting the following error when trying to make an outbound call using broadvoice. |
| 16:49.09 | h3x0r | nobody makes voip wifi handsets |
| 16:49.10 | pr0m | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.10 | pr0m | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.10 | h3x0r | yet |
| 16:49.18 | h3x0r | like |
| 16:49.24 | h3x0r | besides the cordless phone type replacements |
| 16:49.31 | pr0m | ya'll know what that error message means? |
| 16:49.44 | *** join/#asterisk Blissex (n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 16:50.13 | syle | h2x0r, zapbarge, chan_spy? |
| 16:54.03 | bkw_ | Madkiss, hrm Asterisk coder??? thats like an understatement |
| 16:54.28 | syle | more like a penis avenger |
| 16:54.29 | Madkiss | great |
| 16:54.35 | Druken | did i hear like a week ago that providers have to make it easy for the cops to tap a voip phonecall ? |
| 16:54.42 | DarthClue | Madkiss: but he doesn't touch 1.0.9 |
| 16:54.45 | bkw_ | syle, was that really called for? |
| 16:55.10 | SwK | Druken: yeah |
| 16:55.20 | DarthClue | Madkiss: use Head, Head is always better. |
| 16:55.22 | bkw_ | muxmon baby |
| 16:55.26 | bkw_ | chanspy baby |
| 16:55.36 | bkw_ | lord it ain't hard to do this yo |
| 16:55.46 | syle | Aug 21 11:53:01 NOTICE[19537]: chan_sip.c:9900 sip_poke_noanswer: Peer '2044803382' is now UNREACHABLE! Last qualify: 94 |
| 16:55.46 | syle | Aug 21 11:53:11 NOTICE[19537]: chan_sip.c:8343 handle_response_peerpoke: Peer '2044803382' is now REACHABLE! (98ms / 10000ms) |
| 16:55.46 | SwK | Druken: you heard that... but seriously... if you have phones that encrypt the RTP before your provider gets it alotta good thats going to do that fedz |
| 16:55.48 | Druken | i never said it was hard... |
| 16:55.51 | syle | i keep getting this shit |
| 16:55.54 | syle | hour on the hour |
| 16:56.02 | syle | i;ve tried your suggestiosn to increase qualify |
| 16:56.05 | syle | its something else |
| 16:56.25 | syle | its so exact to , every 60 min |
| 16:56.35 | bkw_ | bet your register is taking place at that point |
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| 16:56.46 | SwK | syle: decrease the registration timeout on the phone and see what happens |
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| 16:57.20 | syle | hmm good idea , i'll try that , thx |
| 16:57.34 | nick125 | thats what it looks like to me |
| 16:57.35 | Druken | why would a device need to register every hour? |
| 16:57.44 | SwK | Druken: firewall |
| 16:57.46 | Hogie | SwK: but if the provider can't decrypt the RTP stream, how will they forward you to the PSTN? |
| 16:57.54 | Druken | SwK: oh... |
| 16:58.15 | Hogie | PTSN? |
| 16:58.16 | SwK | Hogie: wel if they are forwarding you to the PSTN the call can already be tapped |
| 16:58.21 | Hogie | Ive got a headache:( |
| 16:58.40 | nick125 | Im working on one, and I just got up |
| 16:58.41 | Druken | voip is a headache |
| 16:58.49 | Hogie | why else would you need a voip provider? |
| 16:59.22 | SwK | the real issue is they want to be able to tap VoIP to VoIP calls... like anyone thats doing something where the seriously dont want the communication tapped tey are already using some form of cryptography anyway so CALEA is useless |
| 16:59.52 | Hogie | yup, like our IAX2 trunks between our offices go over ipsec.... |
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| 17:00.05 | Madkiss | DarthClue: I have two pieces of patch-code that are applied to 1.0.9 in FreeBSD, and which seem to break SIP, so I wonder whether can find somebody to examine why it breaks |
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| 17:00.50 | DarthClue | Madkiss: you'll have to find the person who wrote the patches. if it does really break it, then you need to file a bug report as well. |
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| 17:01.29 | SwK | you see that "why do you need a VoIP procider" all comes back to this... most people still havent gotten it throught their thick little skuls that VoIP no matter how much it looks, smalls, and acts like telephony, its just not telephony, its a damned program running on the network... its just more data presented to act like telephony |
| 17:01.35 | syle | oww great wife wants sex , bbiab |
| 17:02.00 | Netgeeks | lol |
| 17:02.50 | drray | poor baby |
| 17:02.57 | SwK | damn i just read what i typed... and jesus i need to learn how to type and/or speel |
| 17:03.14 | RaYmAn-Bx | "spell" ;P |
| 17:03.22 | *** join/#asterisk jeffpc (n=jeffpc@ool-44c218a8.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 17:03.25 | SwK | see what I mean |
| 17:03.35 | clyrrad | Anyone see a problem with this? exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,1,SetCallerID("dc" <9999999999>) Caller ID number shows up but not the name |
| 17:03.38 | *** join/#asterisk colinm_ (n=colinmat@VDSL-130-13-8-137.PHNX.QWEST.NET) |
| 17:04.47 | Hogie | you can't set the name on outbound calls to the telephone network... |
| 17:04.55 | jeffpc | asterisk uses the odd/even versioning model like the kernel ? |
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| 17:05.32 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o bkw__] by ChanServ |
| 17:05.38 | clyrrad | Hogie.. Oh that would explain it... So if I can not set it who can? VOIP provider? |
| 17:05.59 | Hogie | whoever updates the callerid database for that phone number can |
| 17:06.13 | clyrrad | I see, thanks for the info :) |
| 17:07.20 | sivana | clyrrad: ya, nice engineering work |
| 17:08.44 | sivana | syle, you must be back by now :P |
| 17:08.51 | darkskiez | anyone using SIPAddHeader? It doesnt seem to work for me, not sure if its a bug or me being a spazzer |
| 17:09.55 | SwK | sivana: you know he's got to roll over and take a nap first |
| 17:11.32 | sivana | hehe |
| 17:12.00 | darkskiez | ah, its me being a spaz, I wanted to add headers to the current dialog, not on a new call placed via dial |
| 17:13.56 | h3x0r | clyrrad: to be more specific... when a call terminates upon a LEC (the recieving party), it does a database lookup from number to name |
| 17:14.26 | h3x0r | the database record of your block of numbers would be owned by whatever lec has your 10 digit caller id |
| 17:14.56 | Hogie | h3x0r: when you are so technical, you scare the n00bs off:( |
| 17:15.02 | h3x0r | the reason its not sent through the phone network with your call is because the jackasses that designed our ANSI SS#7 network forgot to put in a name field when they designed it |
| 17:15.03 | Hogie | but it makes me hot |
| 17:15.21 | h3x0r | european ETSI SS7 lets you do it |
| 17:15.43 | h3x0r | yeah well, he might not get it, but the point is |
| 17:15.56 | h3x0r | its better than saying "you need your telco to do it" |
| 17:16.26 | Hogie | I didn't say telco;) and.. why wont trillian go across the top of my screen? I dont want it on the side |
| 17:16.42 | h3x0r | you have to drag the shit |
| 17:16.44 | h3x0r | its annoying |
| 17:16.52 | Druken | hey sivana |
| 17:17.06 | h3x0r | drag in the light blue part of that window |
| 17:17.20 | h3x0r | i cant believe you are using it for irc though.. heh |
| 17:17.29 | Hogie | Im not |
| 17:17.38 | Hogie | its my jabber for work, + 3 diff aim's |
| 17:18.05 | sivana | Trillian is pretty good for multi IM accounts... |
| 17:18.11 | Hogie | and Im trying to clear my main screen for working, and I dont have room for it on my secondary monitor the "normal" way |
| 17:18.14 | sivana | too bad it sucks for people sharing the same computer |
| 17:18.22 | Hogie | good thing I live alone eh? |
| 17:18.25 | sivana | as it doesn't use the user's registry |
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| 17:19.50 | Druken | sivana: yes it can... |
| 17:19.59 | Hogie | I think the newest can |
| 17:20.01 | Hogie | 3.1? |
| 17:20.03 | Druken | just has to be setup correctly... |
| 17:20.32 | Druken | only thing is... if you screw it up... the IM lists get merged... hehe |
| 17:20.49 | Druken | i have myself on my MSN list... |
| 17:21.01 | nick125 | lol |
| 17:23.45 | Druken | Hogie: do you have trillian using jabber? |
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| 17:24.36 | L|NUX | ERASEPRIVATELOG |
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| 17:26.44 | Chotaire | duh |
| 17:27.20 | Hogie | Druken: yes |
| 17:28.02 | Druken | Hogie: how... i must be stupid, cause i could never figure it out |
| 17:28.09 | Hogie | did you buy pro? |
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| 17:28.54 | Druken | ahh... there's my problem eh? |
| 17:29.07 | Hogie | yeah, jabber is in pro only |
| 17:29.36 | Druken | figures eh? the free open source IM is only in the PAY version of trillian |
| 17:29.47 | Qwell | use gaim |
| 17:29.56 | Hogie | I use gaim on my workstation at work |
| 17:30.08 | Legend | no miranda fans? |
| 17:30.16 | drray | adium for OSX is aweseom |
| 17:30.30 | Hogie | everyone else at work uses psi since they aren't "allowed" on any external IM's |
| 17:30.36 | Druken | gaim doesn't run on windows does it? |
| 17:30.44 | drray | there is a win32 port of gaim |
| 17:30.48 | Qwell | Druken: sure it does |
| 17:30.49 | jeffpc | is there a way to call someone from the console (asterisk -vvr) and automatically, connect them to some extention? |
| 17:30.52 | Qwell | its awful though ; |
| 17:31.10 | Qwell | jeffpc: if you're using alsa or oss, you can |
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| 17:31.19 | Qwell | or, just use a .call file |
| 17:31.45 | jeffpc | .call ? |
| 17:32.02 | Qwell | find sample.call |
| 17:32.10 | Qwell | modify it, and put it in like /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/ |
| 17:32.12 | jeffpc | I can't use alsa/oss because there is no sound card |
| 17:32.33 | Druken | Hogie: :P' |
| 17:33.04 | Hogie | I got tired of trillian popping up saying I had used it like 30 years and really needed to support the project |
| 17:33.23 | Druken | i haven't had mine pop up in months |
| 17:34.16 | Hogie | http://gallery.cyberjunky.net/HomePics/trillian |
| 17:34.53 | Hogie | 12603 hours |
| 17:34.54 | Hogie | lol |
| 17:35.13 | Druken | that's it? :) |
| 17:35.15 | Druken | hehe |
| 17:35.23 | Hogie | that was 2 years ago |
| 17:35.59 | Hogie | that's over a year of trillian open;) |
| 17:36.25 | Druken | so what's the other colors i'm missing then ? hehe |
| 17:36.44 | Hogie | work "bough it" for me |
| 17:36.45 | h3x0r | hahahah |
| 17:36.49 | h3x0r | you should call and argue with them |
| 17:36.59 | h3x0r | "i have only used it for 11,200 hours!!!!!" |
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| 17:37.56 | Hogie | http://gallery.cyberjunky.net/new_apartment_092104/Bigscreen_Monitor |
| 17:37.59 | Hogie | I miss my bigscreen |
| 17:38.00 | Hogie | :( |
| 17:38.12 | h3x0r | that rules |
| 17:38.26 | Qwell | Hogie: dude, you need furniture |
| 17:38.43 | Hogie | Qwell: that was the day I got the keys to this apartment |
| 17:38.47 | Qwell | ahh |
| 17:38.48 | Druken | wuts the microwave for? |
| 17:39.03 | Hogie | comcast was coming to install cablemodem |
| 17:39.14 | Hogie | and I didn't wanna bring down my 21" crt that day from my 3rd floor apartment |
| 17:39.25 | Hogie | so I stole the conference room projector from work instead |
| 17:39.46 | Qwell | couldn't you have just used the monitor sitting on the floor there? :p |
| 17:40.00 | Hogie | that was a 17" from work;) |
| 17:40.10 | Hogie | and... it was uncomfy to work on |
| 17:40.15 | Hogie | since Ihad no chair, and was on the floor |
| 17:41.25 | Druken | Hogie: that is a nasty cupboard... |
| 17:41.40 | h3x0r | oh my god |
| 17:41.44 | h3x0r | stiff nipples air conditioning |
| 17:41.52 | h3x0r | i was making a joke about something like that yesterday |
| 17:42.19 | Hogie | Druken: what cupboard? |
| 17:42.45 | Druken | http://gallery.cyberjunky.net/ServerRoomBuildOut |
| 17:42.58 | Hogie | hah |
| 17:43.04 | Hogie | http://gallery.cyberjunky.net/BeforeBuildout/P0010637 |
| 17:43.11 | Hogie | dont you love the size of that room? |
| 17:43.47 | Druken | room? it's a closet |
| 17:44.05 | Hogie | heh |
| 17:44.10 | Hogie | that's why we built it out |
| 17:44.15 | Hogie | well, bigger anyway |
| 17:44.21 | Hogie | we have a server cabinet in there now |
| 17:44.23 | nick125 | i would put my distcc cluster in there, and my server and networking equipment |
| 17:44.24 | Druken | could be worse.... |
| 17:44.30 | nick125 | yeah |
| 17:44.57 | Druken | http://www.abss.ca/gallery/album01 |
| 17:45.32 | nick125 | lol |
| 17:45.55 | Hogie | http://gallery.cyberjunky.net/AfterBuildout/P0010661 |
| 17:45.55 | Nix_napping | u call that a server room? :-) |
| 17:45.58 | Hogie | our old phone system;) |
| 17:46.46 | otaku_p0pe | i'll take a picture of the pile in my basement sometime. |
| 17:47.18 | Hogie | http://gallery.cyberjunky.net/ServerRoomFunny/P0010670 |
| 17:47.20 | Hogie | our server pile |
| 17:47.45 | Hogie | its portable... we can move them anywhere, without downtime! |
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| 17:48.32 | Hogie | http://gallery.cyberjunky.net/Work_Pictures/P0000436 <-- my babies though |
| 17:49.31 | Qwell | Hogie: not too shabby |
| 17:49.42 | Hogie | they are 3 of our 5 new dual opterons |
| 17:49.44 | Hogie | :) |
| 17:49.52 | Qwell | lemme guess |
| 17:49.55 | Qwell | saturn and neptune? |
| 17:50.03 | Hogie | jupiter & saturn |
| 17:50.39 | Hogie | mercury is a little celery that does their db work |
| 17:51.24 | Qwell | eww, they run windows? |
| 17:51.52 | h3x0r | oh yeah baby |
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| 17:52.19 | Hogie | Yup. They are for game servers. Game servers release windows only or windows binaries faster than linux bins |
| 17:52.35 | Hogie | atm |
| 17:52.57 | Hogie | it was a 100% business decision |
| 17:53.22 | h3x0r | chenbro cases r00l |
| 17:53.22 | Hogie | and trust me, I didn't wanna do it |
| 17:53.34 | Netgeeks | Ewwww Dell switch |
| 17:53.42 | Qwell | 21th? 22th? 33th? wtf? |
| 17:54.33 | Hogie | that's been fixed Qwell;) |
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| 17:55.07 | Hogie | er, wait, it hasn't... wth |
| 17:55.14 | h3x0r | hahaha you got a refurb screwdriver |
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| 17:56.00 | SuPrSluG | hello |
| 17:57.25 | Hogie | there, NOW it is fixed |
| 17:58.03 | SuPrSluG | anyone setup asterik to work with KSU? what hardware is needed, fxs cards? |
| 17:58.38 | Hogie | that's what we had on ours... (a Samsung unit) |
| 17:59.13 | h3x0r | that dell poweredge 750 or whatever |
| 17:59.24 | SuPrSluG | so do you just use the usual Dial commmand? |
| 17:59.26 | h3x0r | i have one of those, its manufactured by some chinese company |
| 17:59.32 | h3x0r | areasys.com sells the actual oem ones |
| 18:00.48 | Hogie | I love the 750 for what its doing... I have it doing squid work (transparently), NAT, IPSec endpoint, packet filtering to our DMZ, traffic shaping... its openbsd:) |
| 18:01.45 | h3x0r | that machine is too heavy |
| 18:01.57 | h3x0r | i like the cable management thing but |
| 18:02.05 | Hogie | on the 750? |
| 18:02.06 | Hogie | or the 2850? |
| 18:02.13 | drray | form a gravity well in your server room |
| 18:02.35 | h3x0r | i donno its a 1u box with floppy and cdrom |
| 18:02.40 | Hogie | that's a 750 |
| 18:02.47 | Hogie | I dont remember a cable management thing with it |
| 18:02.51 | Hogie | the 2850 had one |
| 18:02.53 | Hogie | (2U) |
| 18:03.05 | h3x0r | heh then dell probably takes it out of the box and charges extra for it |
| 18:03.41 | h3x0r | mine came with slide rails, cable management arm |
| 18:03.55 | h3x0r | i think it was only $425 with mobo and ps |
| 18:04.02 | Hogie | me came with slide rails, but no arm |
| 18:04.37 | bkw__ | ddddddddddddddddddsssssssssssssaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 18:04.40 | bkw__ | ddddddddddddddd |
| 18:04.43 | bkw__ | damn it |
| 18:04.44 | bkw__ | haha |
| 18:04.48 | zigman | wtf ? |
| 18:05.53 | h3x0r | http://www.areasys.com/template.asp?content=RF801.asp&subset=RF801_main.htm&LNavMenu=menuRackmount.htm |
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| 18:06.17 | h3x0r | but htese are my favorite |
| 18:06.21 | h3x0r | http://www.8anet.com/merchant.ihtml?pid=2227&step=4 |
| 18:06.25 | h3x0r | its made by supermicro |
| 18:06.34 | h3x0r | but custom, backwards mounted |
| 18:06.56 | Hogie | their website slowt o you? |
| 18:07.05 | h3x0r | yeah it is today |
| 18:07.20 | h3x0r | a lot of shit is going slow today |
| 18:08.24 | h3x0r | looks like that 2850 is made by the same company that makes the 750 too |
| 18:08.33 | h3x0r | its amazing i dont think dell manufactures anything anymore |
| 18:08.55 | Qwell | h3x0r: they don't have to |
| 18:09.32 | h3x0r | i used to buy msi servers |
| 18:09.46 | h3x0r | but they dont ever come out with bios updates |
| 18:09.54 | h3x0r | and theres a bug in the firmware of those fancy ones with the LCDs |
| 18:09.59 | h3x0r | er.. bios |
| 18:10.11 | h3x0r | it gets stuck with a t1 card in the pci slot, tries to boot it |
| 18:10.18 | h3x0r | half the time when you fire it up |
| 18:10.24 | Qwell | it tries to boot from the T1 card? |
| 18:10.28 | h3x0r | yes |
| 18:10.32 | Qwell | funky |
| 18:10.34 | h3x0r | it thinks it has a pci rom |
| 18:10.50 | [hC] | cant you tell your bios not to boot from option roms? |
| 18:10.59 | h3x0r | it dosent have that feature |
| 18:11.04 | [hC] | Doh. :( |
| 18:11.06 | h3x0r | well it does, but it dosent work |
| 18:11.22 | h3x0r | it also has a thing to disable PXE boot and that dosent work eitehr |
| 18:11.25 | Qwell | maybe it thinks its an ide controller or something? |
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| 18:11.47 | h3x0r | it says on the post display on the front that its trying the pci rom in slot whatever |
| 18:11.52 | Qwell | oh |
| 18:12.05 | h3x0r | if i pull the card out it always boots |
| 18:12.15 | h3x0r | those three machines became a hsphere web serving farm |
| 18:12.59 | h3x0r | the equivalent to dell 750 i gave to my developer to use as a colo here. i didnt like it too much |
| 18:14.13 | Hogie | will asterisk compile 64bit? :) |
| 18:14.24 | Qwell | I would imagine so |
| 18:15.02 | Hogie | Im trying to figure out how Im gonna move our office, without missing phone calls, that's the objective they gave me |
| 18:15.37 | Qwell | same building? |
| 18:15.42 | Hogie | diff building |
| 18:16.06 | Hogie | They are wanting to move people over in groups, like this department, then that department... |
| 18:17.09 | Hogie | I kinda figured of ording another PRI with our current company at new location, and build another * box, and pull the calls over to it one day, and shuttle the calls via iax2 back to our current pbx box via internet (which means we would have to get a data t1 up there too) |
| 18:17.35 | Qwell | just give them all cellphones :p |
| 18:17.47 | Hogie | Well, its the perfect time to upgrade the * box |
| 18:17.59 | Hogie | since, we are gonna be hiring mor epeople too:) |
| 18:18.31 | h3x0r | where are you at |
| 18:19.01 | Hogie | texas |
| 18:19.09 | h3x0r | what part |
| 18:19.17 | h3x0r | now that you have narrowed it down to a country |
| 18:19.17 | h3x0r | haha |
| 18:19.19 | Hogie | Half way between Dallas & Ft Worth |
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| 18:19.33 | h3x0r | i wonder if ive got dids there |
| 18:19.49 | Hogie | 214/817/496/972 |
| 18:19.56 | Hogie | and there's like 682 here too I think |
| 18:20.09 | Hogie | or is it 469? hmm, I forgot |
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| 18:20.42 | h3x0r | errr |
| 18:20.50 | h3x0r | are those all exchanges or what |
| 18:20.58 | Hogie | those are all areacodes |
| 18:21.01 | h3x0r | oh |
| 18:21.09 | Hogie | Dallas/Ft Worth is a big single metroplex area |
| 18:21.18 | h3x0r | oh yeah |
| 18:21.53 | Hogie | the is a highway that goes from downtown dallas to downtown ft worth |
| 18:21.58 | Hogie | and the whole way, you see houses |
| 18:21.59 | Hogie | lol |
| 18:22.04 | h3x0r | are you like in valor territory or something |
| 18:22.04 | Hogie | (and its 30ish miles) |
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| 18:22.19 | blop | [20:06:26] <h3x0r> but custom, backwards mounted => backwards mounted is a must for asterisk application :) |
| 18:22.30 | Hogie | they are around... valor does our phones for our office in Hill County. 254 area code |
| 18:22.31 | blop | u know other hardware like those ? |
| 18:22.47 | h3x0r | blop: not that isnt super expensive. they have a pentium D model of that too |
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| 18:23.21 | Hogie | we use texlink for our PRI, use to have SBC POTS lines, and use The Planet (with a sbc t1) for our inet |
| 18:23.30 | Umaro | Hey guys.. having an odd problem on one of my boxes, where zttest can open the pseudo device, but it doesn't get any results (even after waiting for more than 60 seconds) |
| 18:24.39 | h3x0r | if you have a list of npa/nxx's i could check to see what is portable etc. |
| 18:25.02 | Hogie | list of npa/nxx's of what? lol... |
| 18:25.04 | Madkiss | Is Mark Spencer here? |
| 18:25.14 | h3x0r | your numbers |
| 18:25.15 | Hogie | 972641 is our main numbers |
| 18:25.20 | Qwell | Madkiss: he doesn't appear to be here right now. Do you need help with something? |
| 18:25.25 | Hogie | 817259 is our new DiD's |
| 18:25.51 | Madkiss | Qwell: I saw the following: "Asterisk 1.0.8-BRIstuffed-0.2.0-RC8h, Copyright (C) 1999-2004 Digium. Written by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>" -- so I guess he has something to do with that patch |
| 18:26.06 | Qwell | Madkiss: he wrote asterisk, if thats the question |
| 18:26.22 | Madkiss | ah, hm, no, it's not. |
| 18:26.28 | Madkiss | Qwell: Are you cluefull about the asterisk source? |
| 18:26.35 | Qwell | somewhat |
| 18:26.39 | Qwell | alot of people are though |
| 18:26.51 | Qwell | if you ask a question, I'm sure somebody will try to help you |
| 18:26.57 | Madkiss | Qwell: I just asked the same question three times here already ... |
| 18:27.30 | Qwell | the breaking 1.0.9 in fbsd? |
| 18:27.35 | Hogie | Madkiss: the ones that know could be at church... or getting laid... or getting drunk... or getting killed right now... |
| 18:27.44 | Qwell | or, all of the above |
| 18:27.48 | Qwell | damn them priests |
| 18:27.51 | Hogie | lol |
| 18:27.51 | Madkiss | Qwell: indeed. :) |
| 18:27.56 | Umaro | Madkiss, That patch is a deritive work of Asterisk. Mark Spencer wrote asterisk, therefore they have to give credit to him in their deritive work |
| 18:28.01 | Qwell | Madkiss: Is the patch specifically for 1.0.9? |
| 18:28.04 | Qwell | if not, it won't work at all |
| 18:28.27 | Umaro | Madkiss, I do not believe mark spencer took part in that patch |
| 18:28.28 | Madkiss | http://madkiss.org/asterisk/ -- these are the two snipplets that break stuff. |
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| 18:28.43 | Qwell | Madkiss: You didn't answer my question... |
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| 18:29.06 | Qwell | and your mime types on that site suck |
| 18:29.08 | Madkiss | Qwell: I think they are for 1.0.8, at least the patch name seems to suggest so. The problem was exactly the same with 1.0.8, tho. |
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| 18:29.23 | Madkiss | Qwell: Indeed; that box is about to go OOO |
| 18:29.52 | tzafrir_laptop | RC8h is for 1.0.8 . RC8j,n is for 1.0.9 |
| 18:30.13 | Umaro | Hey guys, the hardware page on the beta (maybe on the old one, too) asterisk.com site lists the dialogic D/480JCT-2T1 as being supported.. Does anyone know of anyone who has used that card with asterisk? |
| 18:30.30 | Qwell | Madkiss: is this a patch you wrote, or what? |
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| 18:30.34 | nick125 | anyone know if the sipura SPA-841 is any good? |
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| 18:30.43 | Madkiss | Qwell: These are two patches taken from the FreeBSD-asterisk-port |
| 18:30.46 | Umaro | nick125, I think lots of people are happy with it |
| 18:31.02 | Madkiss | The first is from 1.0.8-BRIstuffed-0.2.0-RC8h, the second is one they inclued into their tree for some unknown reason |
| 18:31.06 | Umaro | nick125, sipuras are pretty good, in general |
| 18:31.19 | bkw__ | the 841 is not so great |
| 18:31.33 | bkw__ | in all honesty use a polycom or cisco |
| 18:31.49 | nick125 | well, whats a good phone under $100 that doesnt have the echo issues? |
| 18:31.52 | hugo-v6 | sipura policom ... ill give snom a chance. at wednesday ill get a sample to test :) |
| 18:31.54 | Umaro | yeah, a polycom is of course better |
| 18:31.57 | Qwell | Madkiss: ok, so whats the question? |
| 18:32.14 | Umaro | Haven't tried ciscos, but I dig polycoms |
| 18:32.25 | Umaro | bkw__, do ciscos have a led backlight? |
| 18:32.26 | hugo-v6 | Umaro: this phones (at least the 300) is expensive and ugly. |
| 18:32.28 | Madkiss | Qwell: If you apply these two patches to the asterisk 1.0.9 source, it will disconnect SIP connections after 5-25 seconds for no obvious reason and without giving any detailled log message. |
| 18:32.38 | Qwell | Madkiss: so don't apply them.. |
| 18:32.41 | Madkiss | Qwell: Without these patches, SIP will work fine and as expected. |
| 18:32.49 | Qwell | I don't see the problem. :P |
| 18:32.58 | Umaro | hugo-v6, the 300 isn't that great.. that's kind of like polycom trying to edge into the lower budget market. |
| 18:33.04 | tzafrir_laptop | Madkiss, and if you apply just one? |
| 18:33.06 | Madkiss | Qwell: I wonder if I can find somebody to help me finding what exactly the problem is, so a fix for the fBSD-port can be created. |
| 18:33.06 | Umaro | hugo-v6, the 500 and 600 are awesome, though |
| 18:33.20 | Madkiss | tzafrir_laptop: I did not test that yet, but will try it RSN. |
| 18:33.21 | Qwell | if it works without the patch, why patch it? |
| 18:33.23 | hugo-v6 | Madkiss: what version of bristuff? i patched a 1.0.9 with the m version of bristuff and this works fine here |
| 18:33.39 | Madkiss | hugo-v6: 1.0.8-BRIstuffed-0.2.0-RC8h |
| 18:33.48 | Madkiss | hugo-v6: Do you do SIP to PSTN? |
| 18:33.49 | hugo-v6 | Madkiss: for 1.0.9? |
| 18:33.54 | hugo-v6 | Madkiss: yes |
| 18:33.54 | Madkiss | hugo-v6: yes |
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| 18:34.03 | hugo-v6 | Madkiss: try newer one |
| 18:34.03 | Madkiss | Okay, I will get that patch and test |
| 18:34.22 | hugo-v6 | as said i use bristuff rc8m |
| 18:34.40 | Madkiss | Where to get that from? |
| 18:35.09 | Qwell | same place you got the other one, I'd imagine |
| 18:35.21 | Madkiss | The other one was just included in the fBSD port |
| 18:35.21 | hugo-v6 | from the same page as the older ones in a /download/ directory. takes me some minutes to find since i got other problems with older patches 2 |
| 18:35.27 | Madkiss | I have no idea where the author got it from |
| 18:35.35 | hugo-v6 | junghans.net iirc |
| 18:35.42 | Qwell | .google bristuff rc8m |
| 18:35.44 | stkn | http://www.junghanns.net/downloads/ |
| 18:35.45 | Qwell | ~google bristuff rc8m |
| 18:35.57 | hugo-v6 | Qwell: yea man :) |
| 18:36.08 | Madkiss | amazing |
| 18:36.34 | stkn | rc8n is the latest btw |
| 18:36.55 | hugo-v6 | stkn: wow? when was it released? |
| 18:36.59 | hugo-v6 | *look* |
| 18:37.27 | Qwell | tzafrir_laptop: said that earlier |
| 18:37.32 | Qwell | j,n |
| 18:37.54 | hugo-v6 | indeed there is a n version |
| 18:38.15 | hugo-v6 | hmmm have to check that after my zaphfc is at least working with my dectphone |
| 18:40.12 | stkn | hugo-v6: no idea, file times have been changed |
| 18:40.58 | hugo-v6 | stkn: i saw that already. but n comes after m ;) |
| 18:41.18 | hugo-v6 | what do i watch this evening? boys from brasil or the transporter? |
| 18:42.39 | h3x0r | that sucked. |
| 18:42.48 | h3x0r | i hate it when windows xp network stack takes a dump |
| 18:42.52 | h3x0r | and wont let you open any new connections |
| 18:42.57 | nick125 | lol |
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| 18:43.36 | nick125 | i wonder what they did to the bsd net stack heh |
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| 18:45.48 | hugo-v6 | stkn: ill zap between both the first few minutes and will see what meets my taste |
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| 18:47.05 | h3x0r | heh |
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| 18:47.15 | h3x0r | hogie i can do grand prarie |
| 18:47.22 | ttyp0 | hi there, anyone alive? |
| 18:47.36 | nroej | not really |
| 18:47.38 | jedirl | nope |
| 18:47.40 | ttyp0 | heheh |
| 18:47.47 | ttyp0 | it's a simple question |
| 18:47.56 | ttyp0 | i have an X100P card |
| 18:48.02 | ttyp0 | with line plugged in |
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| 18:48.13 | ttyp0 | and a normal analogic phone plugged in too |
| 18:48.19 | Qwell | try not to hit enter after every other word |
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| 18:48.31 | ttyp0 | ok |
| 18:48.37 | file[lap1op] | paulc?!? |
| 18:48.39 | Hogie | h3x0r: you can do what with it? We aren't looking for incoming did's via voip... |
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| 18:48.47 | paulc | I AM I AM! |
| 18:49.01 | file[lap1op] | what'cha doing |
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| 18:49.14 | ta[i]nted | how do i get rid of sip channels that refuse to go away after calls have ended |
| 18:49.17 | ttyp0 | i'm trying to say "hello" when someone calls home, and after that make the phone ring, but it says Zap/1-1 is busy... is there any way to make it work? |
| 18:49.21 | paulc | It's Sunday.. it's between 11am and 1pm PST.. so clearly I'm listening to Radio 1 Dance Anthems :-) |
| 18:49.22 | nick125 | ok, whats a good ATA adapter for asterisk thats under $75 or so? |
| 18:49.29 | file[lap1op] | paulc: of course |
| 18:49.36 | Sedorox | ttyp0, the X100P can't ring a phone |
| 18:49.37 | Qwell | ttyp0: no, get an fxs for your phone |
| 18:49.42 | paulc | nick125: Sipura.. anything.. like the SPA-1001 for a single port.. SPA-2002 for 2 ports.. or SPA-3000 if you need PSTN interfacing |
| 18:49.42 | h3x0r | hogie, what are you doing, fax blasting? :) |
| 18:49.45 | Sedorox | it can only allow asterisk to asnwer a phoneline |
| 18:49.50 | Qwell | Sedorox: hes using the passthrough port I bet |
| 18:49.54 | ttyp0 | ooookay |
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| 18:49.58 | ttyp0 | that's all |
| 18:50.02 | ttyp0 | thanks :-) |
| 18:50.02 | paulc | file: and you? |
| 18:50.08 | Hogie | h3x0r: no, its just we have limited bandwidth |
| 18:50.11 | file[lap1op] | watching Space, trying to get a development environment setup |
| 18:50.16 | file[lap1op] | failing horribly |
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| 18:50.42 | paulc | nick125: So VoIP phones everywhere and PSTN connection via a provider? |
| 18:50.49 | Qwell | nick125: get rid of voip too, and just get a cellphone. :P |
| 18:50.50 | h3x0r | why is that? |
| 18:50.50 | Hogie | h3x0r: and.. our faxes come over the PRI too (or will very soon) |
| 18:50.57 | paulc | nick125: or provider for PSTN but still use analog phones internally? |
| 18:51.28 | file[lap1op] | paulc: potato! |
| 18:51.39 | h3x0r | b/w expensive there? |
| 18:51.55 | paulc | file: couch potato? aka you? :-p |
| 18:51.56 | nick125 | paulc: not sure |
| 18:52.00 | Sedorox | Qwell, yea... |
| 18:52.04 | nick125 | Qwell: already got on of those :P |
| 18:52.10 | zoa | AHA! |
| 18:52.11 | file[lap1op] | paulc: and you today :P |
| 18:52.12 | Qwell | nick125: Then you're all set. ;] |
| 18:52.14 | Hogie | h3x0r: $400 for a T1... |
| 18:52.22 | hugo-v6 | hmmm im searching for a pci card on which i can plug an analog phone too... ideas? |
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| 18:52.24 | Sedorox | ttyp0, its like a modem.. the only thing you can use the other port on it is to plug in a phone... and just use one or the other to answer the line |
| 18:52.25 | h3x0r | the loop? |
| 18:52.35 | Qwell | hugo-v6: tdm400p |
| 18:52.39 | Hogie | h3x0r: for everything, we pay $395 + taxes for total service |
| 18:52.46 | hugo-v6 | Qwell: price? |
| 18:52.52 | Qwell | for one port? about $130 |
| 18:52.57 | mattindy77 | hello. i've got a question. what are the popular sip directory services out there? |
| 18:52.58 | paulc | nick125: Nice to have PSTN access for 911 etc, people seem anal about it all.. go with a couple of providers for outbound PSTN access.. inbound could be a DID from someone, or route your PSTN calls through asterisk.. then phone wise you're gonna need either ethernet to each phone, or star-wired analog connections (as opposed to looped/daisy-chained which is probably how you have it right now) |
| 18:53.01 | h3x0r | on texlink? that isnt too bad |
| 18:53.06 | Hogie | no, not on texlink:P |
| 18:53.06 | nick125 | Qwell: but, family still wants hardline, so, im thinking of getting rid of analog phones, or keeping analog phones and routing them though a ATA device, then connect them to the PSTN line |
| 18:53.09 | hugo-v6 | huh not that cheap. |
| 18:53.09 | Hogie | that's via The Planet |
| 18:53.12 | paulc | file: boxers and glasses at my desk - no couch! :-p |
| 18:53.13 | h3x0r | oh |
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| 18:53.21 | Qwell | hugo-v6: its pretty much the only pci fxs solution |
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| 18:53.23 | hugo-v6 | Qwell: then i use an so called a/b-changer |
| 18:53.27 | Hogie | We left texlink's network cause they didn't have good peerings for us |
| 18:53.33 | file[lap1op] | paulc: 'tsk 'tsk |
| 18:53.34 | hugo-v6 | Qwell: ok then i use external stuff |
| 18:53.37 | Hogie | had to travel to Houston then back to Dallas to get to a DC in dallas |
| 18:53.44 | paulc | file: tsk yourself! I'm fucking lovely! :-D |
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| 18:53.50 | file[lap1op] | paulc: yeah, RIGHT |
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| 18:53.55 | paulc | file: You KNOW it! :-p |
| 18:53.56 | h3x0r | oh you mean for data |
| 18:54.00 | Qwell | hugo-v6: every port after the first is like $75-80 I think |
| 18:54.02 | file[lap1op] | paulc: you're all pedestrian-like |
| 18:54.13 | nick125 | then maybe adding a VOIP line there, that can be accessed though another prefix |
| 18:54.17 | paulc | file: LMAO :D I am SO not pedestrian-like.. well.. maybe a bit.. sometimes.. podcast #3? ;-) |
| 18:54.18 | Hogie | We moved from 6 ground start lines + 1mbps of data @ texlink to 12 PRI channels and a full T1, and we are paying less:) |
| 18:54.25 | file[lap1op] | paulc: exactly. |
| 18:54.34 | hugo-v6 | Qwell: get an a/b changer in de for aprox. 40euros and i can plug into 2 analog phones. |
| 18:54.50 | Qwell | hugo-v6: a/b changer? |
| 18:54.51 | paulc | nick125: Yeah.. Have a prefix to force PSTN outbound access, 10 digit dialing for everything else (or 7 and 1+10).. and some different "force select" prefixes for various outbound routes |
| 18:55.01 | paulc | file: I liked #3.. best so far I thought.. |
| 18:55.02 | Qwell | Why not just get a $0.75 rj11 splitter? |
| 18:55.10 | file[lap1op] | paulc: it was peachy |
| 18:55.17 | paulc | file: YAY! *beams* |
| 18:55.25 | nick125 | paulc: yeah, one for pstn, one for the possible voip line |
| 18:55.25 | file[lap1op] | paulc: yay Paul! |
| 18:55.42 | hugo-v6 | Qwell: dunno how to translate. u plug it into an isdn-line (ie from a hfc-s based card) and you can plug into this device up to 3 analog phones |
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| 18:56.01 | Qwell | meh, isdn |
| 18:56.07 | hugo-v6 | Qwell: for about 40 euros. |
| 18:56.12 | hugo-v6 | Qwell: roxxors. |
| 18:56.12 | paulc | So.. supposing you had to convert a large site with like.. 4000 phones.. to some VoIP "solution".. multiple asterisk boxes, shared common config, configure different phones to point to different boxes etc.. is this where dundi comes in to play? |
| 18:56.30 | nick125 | whats a good FXO/FXS device (i dont want to get into digium cards though), that either supports SIP or IAX2? |
| 18:56.32 | paulc | phone A registers with box A.. phone B registers with box B.. A calls B.. the system does.. what? |
| 18:56.36 | nick125 | under $150 |
| 18:56.42 | paulc | nick125: Sipura SPA-3000 |
| 18:56.44 | Qwell | nick125: I think the spa3000 does fxo and fxs |
| 18:56.48 | supaigtr | hmm.. anyone know how to get the t.38 code into * . Or if it works? |
| 18:56.57 | hugo-v6 | Qwell: it does. read it a few days ago |
| 18:57.35 | h3x0r | supaigtr: is it even publically available yet |
| 18:57.38 | Hogie | I was about to get a PtP T1 to our nearest office, was gonna be $250/month, and get their numbers ported to our PRI... but they said wait, we are moving |
| 18:57.39 | Hogie | lol |
| 18:57.53 | hugo-v6 | Qwell: anyway. in german is such isdn <-> analog changer called "a/b-wandler" wandler = changer |
| 18:59.55 | zoa | supaigtr: where did you see t.38 code ? |
| 19:00.01 | supaigtr | h3x04: static int t38_tx_packet_handler(t38_state_t *s, void *user_data, const uint8_t *buf, int len) |
| 19:00.08 | zoa | where is that ? |
| 19:00.21 | paulc | zoa! *waves* |
| 19:00.25 | zoa | hey ho! |
| 19:00.33 | h3x0r | head ? |
| 19:00.35 | bkw__ | you talking about t38_bits.tgz? |
| 19:00.42 | supaigtr | Yea. |
| 19:00.49 | zoa | whats that file brian ? |
| 19:00.50 | bkw__ | parts are missing |
| 19:00.51 | paulc | uh.. it's me.. not _bkw.. less of the "ho" reference zoa! *winks at bkw* |
| 19:00.59 | supaigtr | I really don't know what I'm looking at. |
| 19:01.00 | h3x0r | hence the name bits |
| 19:01.00 | h3x0r | heh |
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| 19:01.19 | zoa | somebody tell me where to find this file |
| 19:01.22 | bkw__ | supaigtr, that is missing a few things to make t.38 work |
| 19:01.25 | zoa | it might be of a major help to us |
| 19:01.42 | bkw__ | #include <../../t38-asn/t38.h> |
| 19:01.44 | Qwell | zoa: file is hiding |
| 19:01.52 | file[lap1op] | am not |
| 19:01.53 | zoa | :) |
| 19:02.02 | zoa | where do i find that .tgz ? |
| 19:02.03 | bkw__ | plus a patch for asterisk |
| 19:02.08 | supaigtr | :) Been trudging away trying to find a fax solution now that spandsp has died on me. |
| 19:02.20 | bkw__ | becuase AST_FORMAT_T38 isn't defined |
| 19:02.27 | file[laptop] | take that! |
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| 19:03.54 | supaigtr | bkw__: I did get the tnt working with no DS3 and no HDLC. Apparently there are two verison of the 8T1 card and I happened upon the right one. |
| 19:04.10 | bkw__ | supaigtr, w00t |
| 19:04.24 | supaigtr | bkw__: Had any luck getting h323 t.38 and sip voip on the same tnt? |
| 19:04.40 | bkw__ | the tnt can't do t.38 it can do fax relay |
| 19:04.45 | bkw__ | atleast ours can't |
| 19:05.16 | supaigtr | It looks like you can do a callroute to a dsp for t.38 transmission. |
| 19:05.33 | bkw__ | might be able to |
| 19:05.43 | supaigtr | I was hoping to us hylafax-open323 t38modem etc to the max for termination. |
| 19:05.44 | bkw__ | paulc dear |
| 19:05.52 | paulc | hey bkw :) howzit? |
| 19:05.58 | bkw__ | I checked out da podcast |
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| 19:06.08 | paulc | LMAO :D should I run now? |
| 19:06.12 | Qwell | What is a podcast exactly? |
| 19:06.19 | file[laptop] | 8) |
| 19:06.19 | bkw__ | Qwell, do you live under a rock? |
| 19:06.24 | Qwell | bkw__: I do. |
| 19:06.30 | bkw__ | ~google podcast |
| 19:06.33 | file[laptop] | I squashed Qwell under a rock, he's dying a slow agonizing death |
| 19:06.39 | paulc | file: always so violent! |
| 19:06.46 | nick125 | lol |
| 19:06.54 | nick125 | violence isnt the answer, kids |
| 19:06.55 | paulc | Qwell: www.dailysourcecode.com = a well known podcast.. Adam Curry - the bloke rocks! |
| 19:07.05 | file[laptop] | go violence, go violence |
| 19:07.16 | file[laptop] | nooooooooo meds |
| 19:07.23 | bkw__ | cawk? |
| 19:07.31 | Qwell | so, its just an mp3 broadcast? |
| 19:07.41 | *** join/#asterisk surfdue (n=explode@user-0c6t1g9.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 19:07.42 | bkw__ | Qwell, yes but it can be slurped down to your ipod |
| 19:07.54 | surfdue | .. |
| 19:07.55 | file[laptop] | noooooooo |
| 19:08.00 | bkw__ | its tivoish for your ipod boi |
| 19:08.00 | paulc | Qwell: Pretty much.. but downloaded ad-hoc on demand usually, rather than streamed and listened to live |
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| 19:08.08 | bkw__ | paulc, I listen to the Dawn and Drew show |
| 19:08.11 | bkw__ | paulc, do you? |
| 19:08.18 | paulc | nope.. any good? |
| 19:08.24 | bkw__ | its FUCKING EXCELLENT |
| 19:08.26 | Corydon76-home | They're coming to take me away, ha ha, ho ho, hee hee... |
| 19:08.44 | bkw__ | http://www.dawnanddrew.com/ |
| 19:08.46 | Corydon76-home | To the funny farm Where life is beautiful all the time |
| 19:09.12 | Corydon76-home | And I'll be happy to see those men in clean white coats And they're coming to take me awaaaaaay |
| 19:09.19 | bkw__ | haha |
| 19:09.42 | Corydon76-home | Sounds much better in the recording, I assure you |
| 19:10.10 | syle | i guess my only concern is if Channel: in originate action would accept macro arguement |
| 19:10.17 | syle | for manager API |
| 19:10.19 | syle | does it? |
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| 19:11.04 | paulc | bkw__: Added! I'll check it out once I'm done listening to Radio 1 for the morning :) |
| 19:11.21 | paulc | and don't you be all smug and gloating, but I'm still PISSED that the podcast chapter tool is only available for Macs not PCs |
| 19:11.39 | file[laptop] | buy a Mac, all the cool guys are doing it |
| 19:11.39 | bkw__ | haha |
| 19:11.41 | bkw__ | get a mac boi |
| 19:11.51 | bkw__ | 70% of the computers at Cluecon were Mac's |
| 19:12.02 | bkw__ | quite popular |
| 19:12.20 | bkw__ | file you know the m3u preview muisc on all of mp3 |
| 19:12.24 | bkw__ | makes great hold music |
| 19:12.32 | bkw__ | its mono 24khz |
| 19:12.34 | bkw__ | and its free |
| 19:12.40 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 19:12.41 | bkw__ | alexhopper, then you're a fool |
| 19:13.04 | alexhopper | bkw: thanks! |
| 19:13.11 | bkw__ | :P |
| 19:13.27 | bkw__ | i'm HUNGRY |
| 19:13.34 | file[laptop] | then consume food |
| 19:13.37 | paulc | now now girls, let's play nicely.. each to their own right? |
| 19:13.55 | alexhopper | as long as it's made by bill gates! |
| 19:13.55 | paulc | file: BZZZT, wrong answer.. you should have said "*tosses bkw a muffin*" *rolls eyes* |
| 19:14.08 | paulc | alexhopper: of course, the next big debate is Intel vs AMD ;-) |
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| 19:14.50 | alexhopper | paulc: xactly |
| 19:15.10 | pbd | Afternoon, all. |
| 19:15.22 | paulc | alexhopper: So.. which one? ;-) |
| 19:15.31 | bkw__ | you're just askin for it |
| 19:15.33 | paulc | nick125: I think it's established that he hasn't.. |
| 19:15.39 | nick125 | thought so |
| 19:15.53 | SCM | does anyone know something about the oreilly book? when its really coming, whats in it etc. |
| 19:16.05 | file[laptop] | SCM: September 13th supposedly, and lots of good stuff is in it!!! |
| 19:16.12 | file[laptop] | it's a good book. |
| 19:16.15 | SCM | hey, thats soon! |
| 19:16.15 | SCM | cool |
| 19:16.16 | paulc | define "good stuff" ? |
| 19:16.19 | alexhopper | paulc: I have no clue!! :p |
| 19:16.26 | file[laptop] | it's a useful reference book and helps |
| 19:16.27 | Qwell | its like the camasutra of asterisk |
| 19:16.28 | Ariel_ | we know some of the writers are here for that book |
| 19:16.29 | SCM | is there any draf around? |
| 19:16.29 | file[laptop] | isn't that crazy? |
| 19:16.31 | SCM | draft |
| 19:16.34 | surfdue | josh |
| 19:16.37 | surfdue | calm down! |
| 19:16.58 | paulc | use the full name.. like his mother does.. he lives in fear of her.. you'll have him quaking in his boots ;-) |
| 19:16.59 | file[laptop] | uh, no |
| 19:17.10 | surfdue | josh mathhew hankerchief! |
| 19:17.14 | surfdue | YOUR GROUNDED! |
| 19:17.25 | file[laptop] | it's you're, not your :P |
| 19:17.33 | surfdue | josh matthew hinglesmire-smith |
| 19:17.37 | surfdue | get over here now! |
| 19:17.55 | paulc | no no no.. JOSHUA GEOFFREY AARDVARK COLP! Get to your room! You're GROUNDED! Give me ALL your technology! 3 day amish revival for you young man! |
| 19:18.07 | file[laptop] | paulc: nooooooooooooooo |
| 19:18.16 | surfdue | yes |
| 19:18.27 | surfdue | what you say to be boy. |
| 19:18.35 | surfdue | me* |
| 19:18.41 | paulc | I don't think amish people have shotguns.. just slingshots and such? |
| 19:18.51 | surfdue | we do |
| 19:18.53 | surfdue | for backup |
| 19:19.02 | surfdue | its better then a slingshot |
| 19:19.23 | Hogie | why are digital fax boards so expensive? |
| 19:19.33 | surfdue | becuase they fax |
| 19:19.37 | surfdue | and they are digital |
| 19:19.49 | Ariel_ | because there are not many who make them. |
| 19:20.19 | Hogie | I mean... 8 ports for $3300? W T F |
| 19:20.33 | paulc | cheaper to buy 8 modems and an 8 port serial card ;) |
| 19:20.39 | paulc | depends how complex your thing is I guess |
| 19:20.47 | Ariel_ | Hogie, your looking in the wrong place. Wait till you get to the ones that are in the 25,000 dollar range. |
| 19:21.05 | Hogie | I just wanted something I could plug into a spare port on our TE405... |
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| 19:21.25 | paulc | ah.. PRI fax solutions.. yeah - pricey.. |
| 19:21.51 | bkw__ | 6k |
| 19:21.52 | bkw__ | for 2 ports |
| 19:22.11 | Qwell | telephony should not be more expensive (per port) then a prostitute. |
| 19:22.13 | bkw__ | Hogie, sending and reciving? |
| 19:22.13 | paulc | brooktrout? |
| 19:22.15 | Qwell | You can quote me on that. |
| 19:22.26 | paulc | Qwell: How much do hookers go for where you're from then? |
| 19:22.28 | Hogie | bkw: yeah, im just trying to get rid of fax machines |
| 19:22.34 | bkw__ | spandsp works |
| 19:22.36 | bkw__ | use it |
| 19:22.38 | Qwell | paulc: less then 3k... |
| 19:22.48 | Qwell | not that I'd know, or anything, of course |
| 19:22.48 | Hogie | but how do I make it easy for the morons at the office to use it? |
| 19:22.54 | paulc | but "per port" ? |
| 19:22.58 | bkw__ | Hogie, um go read |
| 19:23.03 | bkw__ | their are many ways to do it |
| 19:23.05 | paulc | Hogie: You give them a fax machine :) |
| 19:23.08 | Qwell | alright, so 6k |
| 19:23.16 | Hogie | they know how to use winfax, lol |
| 19:23.24 | paulc | that said.. a mate of mine installed a Hylafax gateway for outbound.. plus some windows printer driver thing.. works a treat, staff are fine with it, everyone's happy |
| 19:23.35 | Ariel_ | Hogie, is it mainly for outbound faxing? |
| 19:23.44 | Hogie | its for both |
| 19:23.58 | paulc | Qwell: 6k for 48 ports = 125$.. so that's how much hookers cost? |
| 19:24.00 | paulc | file? |
| 19:24.05 | Qwell | How do you politely tell somebody to get the fuck out of your house? |
| 19:24.07 | file[laptop] | paulc? |
| 19:24.09 | Qwell | paulc: sounds about right |
| 19:24.20 | bkw__ | Qwell, Please Leave |
| 19:24.27 | paulc | Qwell: If I'm feeling totally British: "I'm gonna tell you to fuck off soon, cos I need to do _____" |
| 19:24.28 | Qwell | bkw__: not that politely |
| 19:24.33 | Ariel_ | Qwell, easy "get the fuck out" please |
| 19:24.34 | bkw__ | Qwell, or send them to the store.. lock the doors |
| 19:24.40 | pbd | Qwell- Offer to pack their bags and call them a cab. |
| 19:24.41 | file[laptop] | Qwell: "I'm going to start pumping poison into the house - if you want to live, leave." |
| 19:24.48 | paulc | Qwell: If I'm more polite.. "I've got a killer headache, I think I want to chill for a bit.. you gonna leave me to do my thing?" |
| 19:24.54 | Qwell | ahh, I suddenly remembered why I come here. :P |
| 19:25.01 | Qwell | paulc: That didn't work last night |
| 19:25.13 | nick125 | Qwell: 'get the hell out of here before i get the sawed off 12 guage out!' |
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| 19:25.30 | paulc | Qwell: House "guests" who didn't take the hint last night and are still there this morning? Yeah.. I'd say it's time to get a bit more blunt.. I'll phone and tell them if you like.. |
| 19:25.41 | Qwell | paulc: heh |
| 19:25.41 | nick125 | lol |
| 19:25.52 | pbd | I know... in the true spirit of the channel... get their cell number, and start giving it to telemarketers.. |
| 19:25.59 | nick125 | hahaha |
| 19:26.02 | Qwell | please |
| 19:26.03 | bkw__ | or the channel |
| 19:26.05 | Qwell | mooches don't have phones |
| 19:26.06 | bkw__ | we can all call them |
| 19:26.07 | file[laptop] | or use the power of call files |
| 19:26.13 | paulc | "Look.. you've been there too long already.. the guy needs some space and time before getting back to the work grind tomorrow.. so why don't you go home now and leave him alone for a bit eh? Hmm? YEAH.. LIKE FUCK RIGHT OFF.. NOWISH.." |
| 19:26.15 | Qwell | mooches use MY phone |
| 19:26.34 | h3x0r | qwell, sounds like you need account codes. |
| 19:26.41 | h3x0r | or |
| 19:26.42 | h3x0r | i know |
| 19:26.46 | h3x0r | install a payphone |
| 19:26.56 | paulc | LMAO :D or just tell them to fuck off and leave.. |
| 19:27.15 | Ariel_ | funny. I was at a all you can eat rest. The owner comes to our table after 3 hours and says. You eat too much no more food for you ... you go now. |
| 19:27.37 | pbd | "Sign say all you can eat.. not eat all!" |
| 19:27.43 | paulc | sounds oriental? |
| 19:27.46 | h3x0r | i know how to get house guests to leave |
| 19:27.54 | h3x0r | call up and order some transvestite out call services |
| 19:28.01 | h3x0r | for your friend |
| 19:28.02 | Ariel_ | paulc, yes Wong's fried Rice house. |
| 19:28.04 | paulc | or invite file over? |
| 19:28.09 | paulc | LMAO sorry, I couldn't resist that one! |
| 19:28.35 | file[laptop] | ooh do I get to go on a killing spree? |
| 19:28.36 | paulc | Ariel_ Bzzzt that sucks.. wanker! should have pointed to the sign.. were you boozing it up? still buying other stuff? or maybe abusing it ever so slightly? |
| 19:28.58 | Qwell | file[laptop]: sure, but I'm not paying extra |
| 19:29.08 | file[laptop] | Qwell: bah |
| 19:29.25 | Ariel_ | Qwell, bring some skunks inside |
| 19:29.34 | Qwell | Ariel_: thats the guest |
| 19:29.39 | nick125 | lol |
| 19:29.45 | surfdue | lol |
| 19:30.01 | Ariel_ | ok then start playing some disco music |
| 19:30.11 | nick125 | what about getting a big steel toe boot and kicking their ass out the door? |
| 19:31.03 | paulc | my caterpillars are steel toe capped |
| 19:31.09 | paulc | but.. they don't go well with shorts.. |
| 19:31.28 | file[laptop] | paulc in shorts? that's hot |
| 19:31.28 | nick125 | paulc: let Qwell borrow them |
| 19:32.56 | bkw__ | Qwell, turn the water and power off |
| 19:33.06 | bkw__ | no power.. no water.. no reason to stay |
| 19:33.25 | paulc | how the fuck do you get in to the situation with people outstaying their welcome anyway? are these people thick as pigshit? not picking up on the subtle and not-so-subtle hints? who ARE they?! |
| 19:33.35 | nick125 | surfdue: SOIP huh? :P |
| 19:33.36 | Qwell | paulc: wifes cousin |
| 19:34.06 | Ariel_ | ahhh ask wife to get them out. |
| 19:34.12 | alexhopper | Turn off the hot water heater! And take all the food out of the fridge |
| 19:34.17 | Qwell | Ariel_: You're married, right? |
| 19:34.20 | Hogie | it would be cheaper to use our current 8port modem card, and just get a Rhino channel bank & fxs modules for the rhino |
| 19:34.21 | Qwell | Ariel_: Then you know that doesn't work. :P |
| 19:34.23 | Ariel_ | Qwell, yes |
| 19:34.33 | paulc | tell the wife it's over unless she fixes her problem ;-) |
| 19:34.47 | Ariel_ | Qwell, yes it, but sleeping in the dog house is better some times. |
| 19:34.50 | Qwell | heh |
| 19:35.21 | bkw__ | GO JANEWAY GO |
| 19:35.49 | paulc | bkw__ is she getting feisty and kicking ass? |
| 19:36.02 | tzafrir_laptop | And I still get a warning about a loop from the devs list. |
| 19:36.59 | nick125 | file[laptop]: you know where one of those are? wow |
| 19:37.24 | file[laptop] | yes, my backyard |
| 19:37.28 | file[laptop] | I bought it on eBay |
| 19:37.29 | tzafrir_laptop | nick125, still here? weren't you hit by a torpedo? |
| 19:37.42 | paulc | Vancouver's a nuclear free zone.. it says so as you drive in to the city limits.. crazy eh? |
| 19:37.42 | surfdue | no |
| 19:37.46 | surfdue | i cloned him |
| 19:37.48 | nick125 | tzafrir_home: no, the aim was good |
| 19:37.49 | surfdue | before he was |
| 19:37.49 | nick125 | lol |
| 19:38.00 | surfdue | so hes alive still |
| 19:38.01 | surfdue | HAHA |
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| 19:38.37 | surfdue | good thing i have a clone |
| 19:38.40 | ta[i]nted | anyone from canada? |
| 19:38.46 | Umaro | hey guys, trying to get my polycom IP 500s set for QoS |
| 19:38.56 | surfdue | no |
| 19:38.57 | surfdue | u cant |
| 19:38.58 | paulc | advanced polycom configuration |
| 19:39.01 | surfdue | its indestructible |
| 19:39.01 | nick125 | ok |
| 19:39.11 | paulc | doesn't the polycom do the right thing by default? |
| 19:39.13 | surfdue | self destruct clonning |
| 19:39.27 | surfdue | muhaha |
| 19:39.27 | surfdue | .. |
| 19:39.30 | surfdue | the machine clones itself! |
| 19:39.35 | Umaro | paulc, not sure |
| 19:39.48 | surfdue | is this pokemon? |
| 19:39.48 | surfdue | lol |
| 19:40.32 | surfdue | .. |
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| 19:40.49 | surfdue | and anothert |
| 19:40.51 | surfdue | and another |
| 19:41.01 | surfdue | the end |
| 19:41.09 | surfdue | lol |
| 19:41.14 | ta[i]nted | i just saw the funniest thing |
| 19:41.21 | surfdue | a duck? |
| 19:41.33 | surfdue | oh nick :) |
| 19:41.37 | surfdue | u saw nick. |
| 19:41.37 | ta[i]nted | canadian sweepstakes require the winner to answer a mathematical question w/o assistance of any kind |
| 19:41.38 | surfdue | lol |
| 19:41.44 | nick125 | lol |
| 19:41.53 | surfdue | ? |
| 19:41.57 | surfdue | u cant use your brain? |
| 19:42.11 | surfdue | dammikt |
| 19:42.12 | surfdue | lol |
| 19:42.17 | ta[i]nted | why do they do that though |
| 19:42.36 | paulc | they do that in the UK too |
| 19:42.36 | nick125 | i thought everyone had a python interpreter in their brain |
| 19:42.41 | paulc | what's the background behind it? |
| 19:42.49 | paulc | 2 + 3 x 4 = ??? |
| 19:42.50 | ta[i]nted | yea.. i'm really curious now |
| 19:43.08 | ta[i]nted | on our sweepstakes form it says "10 x 4 + 6 - 7" |
| 19:43.09 | nick125 | i guess thats why theres not many canadian or uk winning |
| 19:43.17 | Qwell | uhh |
| 19:43.19 | nick125 | ,,, |
| 19:43.19 | Qwell | 39 |
| 19:43.20 | paulc | 39? everyone knows the answer's 42! |
| 19:43.20 | nick125 | ... |
| 19:43.20 | ta[i]nted | the prize was a telephone card of all things LOL |
| 19:43.35 | Qwell | no, you know what the prize SHOULD have been? |
| 19:43.39 | Qwell | a calculator |
| 19:43.41 | nick125 | a calculator? |
| 19:43.42 | nick125 | lol |
| 19:43.42 | paulc | a new job for mee? |
| 19:43.45 | paulc | oops.. that slipped out.. |
| 19:43.52 | Qwell | paulc: wanna trade jobs? |
| 19:43.57 | paulc | maybe! ;-) |
| 19:44.01 | paulc | tell me more.. |
| 19:44.04 | ta[i]nted | google for this: canada sweepstakes skill test |
| 19:44.08 | Qwell | software developer - bank |
| 19:44.08 | Qwell | :p |
| 19:44.12 | alexhopper | paulc: Ah yes, the answer to the question of life the universe, and everything! |
| 19:44.15 | ta[i]nted | u will see it on every canadian contest |
| 19:44.19 | ta[i]nted | it's so strange |
| 19:44.22 | Ariel_ | new job where |
| 19:44.25 | nick125 | haha |
| 19:44.25 | paulc | alexhopper: there we go :) |
| 19:44.38 | Qwell | ta[i]nted: They want to make sure that only canadians enter. Everybody knows an American couldn't answer that |
| 19:44.40 | paulc | Vancouver, BC preferrably.. although SSH works wonders ;) |
| 19:44.43 | h3x0r | do you still have to pay if your answer is wrong |
| 19:44.46 | paulc | Qwell: LMAO :D |
| 19:45.00 | paulc | *imagines the finger counting* |
| 19:45.05 | ta[i]nted | OMG i found out why |
| 19:45.08 | ta[i]nted | http://www.gaminglawmasters.com/jurisdictions/canada/SkillvsChanceOct2004.htm |
| 19:45.15 | paulc | you'd need two people just for that first bit.. all my fingers and toes as well as all of yours |
| 19:45.40 | ta[i]nted | having that math question makes it winning based on 'skill' rather than 'chance' (which would be considered gambling) |
| 19:45.48 | Ariel_ | there is a programmer we know here that programs for Canadian phone contest all the time.... via asterisk. strange biz |
| 19:45.49 | *** join/#asterisk r0d3nt (i=nobody@wsip-24-234-241-84.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 19:46.24 | Umaro | paulc, polycoms seem to set 0x18, whereas 0xb8 (diffserv EF) seems like a better choice |
| 19:46.25 | *** join/#asterisk cheebuu (n=cheebuu@213.165.224.55) |
| 19:46.47 | paulc | Ariel_: My french speaking mate? |
| 19:46.52 | Ariel_ | Umaro, there qos are set up to number 5 of 7 value already. |
| 19:47.06 | Ariel_ | paulc, maybe he dose speak french. |
| 19:47.14 | paulc | Umaro: Hmm.. B8 rings a bell cos I think I saw that in some Leadtek config setup.. *shrugs* change it then? I don't reall know much about QoS, haven't had to deal with it |
| 19:47.19 | alexhopper | I speak french!! |
| 19:47.40 | Umaro | Ariel_, know how i'd match that value with a tc filter? |
| 19:47.57 | paulc | ah oui, c'est bon.. moi aussi.. un peu.. mais l'ami en question a dit que je doit faire le pratique.. comme j'ai dit dans mon podcast.. |
| 19:47.58 | paulc | or something |
| 19:48.24 | ta[i]nted | frog |
| 19:48.36 | ta[i]nted | froggy frog frog ribbit frog |
| 19:48.41 | Ariel_ | Umaro, no I have not looked into it. But it's pre-configure for it's internal switch. |
| 19:49.16 | paulc | You grow up in the UK on an island near France and they teach you French.. what can I say? |
| 19:49.22 | alexhopper | Je pense que français as lécrit est plus simple. Jai commencer limmersion en premier anne, et je las prix pour 10 annees. |
| 19:49.32 | paulc | I'm actually stunned how many people in Canada don't speak french.. or even take it at school.. |
| 19:49.52 | alexhopper | It's odd isin't it? |
| 19:49.53 | paulc | "las prix".. umm.. huh? |
| 19:49.57 | Ariel_ | Que pasa aqui. No mas. |
| 19:50.00 | alexhopper | took it |
| 19:50.12 | paulc | l'as prix? |
| 19:50.25 | paulc | *shrugs* I can speak it a bit but I'm shit for brains at writing it |
| 19:50.31 | ta[i]nted | mon pantalon.. ou est mon pantalon |
| 19:50.53 | Ariel_ | keep your pants on hummmmmm |
| 19:50.59 | alexhopper | lol! I would be ashamed to show my face if I couldent write it after taking ti for 10 years |
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| 19:51.15 | ta[i]nted | alexhopper explains why ur on irc? |
| 19:51.42 | alexhopper | ta[i]nted:....to chat? |
| 19:52.13 | ta[i]nted | to avoid baby seal clubber police? |
| 19:52.30 | alexhopper | riiiiight |
| 19:52.53 | paulc | back to that gaming/skill testing thing.. how does that tie in with the things radio stations do, like caller #9 wins, or call now with the right answer etc? |
| 19:53.45 | ta[i]nted | well they announce that caller #9 will win |
| 19:53.45 | paulc | (tangent: remix of Massive Attack - Unfinished Sympathy on Radio 1 Dance Anthems right now and it ROCKS!) |
| 19:54.11 | ta[i]nted | so it is a matter of skill to be caller #9 |
| 19:54.13 | paulc | uh.. yeah.. course.. I guess if they say "tell us XXXXXX to win" that's deemed "skill testing" |
| 19:54.26 | paulc | well.. more luck than skill ;-) |
| 19:54.27 | paulc | but yeah.. |
| 19:54.58 | ta[i]nted | "Under new guidelines, most seals are meant to be shot and not clubbed to death in a bid to make the killing more humane." |
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| 19:59.06 | ta[i]nted | lol |
| 19:59.52 | supaigtr | Is there anyway to verify if ecan is off on a fax to spandsp? |
| 20:00.11 | bkw__ | its off by default when the fax tone hits |
| 20:00.14 | bkw__ | check the debug |
| 20:00.16 | bkw__ | you'll see it |
| 20:00.47 | supaigtr | I don't see it anymore which I think is my fax problem. set debug 10 should show it right? |
| 20:03.27 | bkw__ | no |
| 20:03.32 | bkw__ | describe your problem? |
| 20:04.22 | supaigtr | wtf?? Well spandsp just suddenly stopped working after installing a ecan card. I had other problems with the card and removed but the spandsp problem is still there. |
| 20:04.40 | supaigtr | I just added hangup and it sent a 2 page fax thru? |
| 20:05.32 | bkw__ | sounds like bad hardware |
| 20:06.08 | supaigtr | :) I've tried on all hardware including mcp 2u rackmount that atacomm recommended. |
| 20:06.29 | supaigtr | No missed interrupts and it had worked for 6 months. |
| 20:07.07 | supaigtr | crap... All I added as a hangup and it seems to be working now. |
| 20:09.22 | tzafrir_laptop | who's the digium lists admin? |
| 20:14.15 | bkw__ | do they have one? |
| 20:14.46 | SwK | their listserver is hosed |
| 20:15.04 | SwK | i got CVS commit emails on thursday from stuff I know went in late tuesday heh |
| 20:15.44 | *** join/#asterisk Shido (n=shido@d57-87-253.home.cgocable.net) |
| 20:17.45 | pr0m | ok. i'm making some headway on the broadvoice connection. |
| 20:17.53 | hugo-v6 | im soo tiered |
| 20:17.59 | pr0m | hugo-v6: i hear ya. |
| 20:18.00 | Qwell | tiered? |
| 20:18.15 | dudes | Wtih SIP. When I get a incoming call the CallerID is SIP/USERNAME ... Any suggestions on getting CID working? |
| 20:18.25 | hugo-v6 | Qwell: mean tired |
| 20:18.44 | wunderkin | pr0m: whats the problem with broadvoice? i had it working before, but then stopped using the account and it was disconnected, now it is active again .. ive changed versions of head .. and it wont work anymore |
| 20:18.49 | pr0m | i can see broadvoice connect to asterisk but i don't hear any sound on the phone that i'm using to place call. |
| 20:18.50 | hugo-v6 | my dog does it right, sleeps on my feets |
| 20:18.58 | wunderkin | oh |
| 20:19.05 | Qwell | broadvoice just doesn't work half the time |
| 20:19.07 | pr0m | wunderkin: what problem did you have? |
| 20:19.07 | Qwell | its a feature |
| 20:19.14 | pr0m | hehee. |
| 20:19.17 | dudes | pr0m - canreinvite=no in sip.conf (if sip that is) |
| 20:19.24 | wunderkin | i cant register anymore |
| 20:19.33 | pr0m | dudes: i got that |
| 20:19.37 | Qwell | somebody is in here daily, asking whats wrong with BV |
| 20:19.37 | wunderkin | it says something about sending a blank registration |
| 20:20.04 | dudes | pr0m - perhaps do a sip debug and look for any codec issues ... Or as Qwell says |
| 20:20.06 | wunderkin | it wont work on my bt101 either |
| 20:20.12 | *** join/#asterisk krisguy (n=krisguy@h216-170-039-057.adsl.navix.net) |
| 20:20.23 | pr0m | like i said, i can see the connection in the asterisk console from broadvoice. asterisk says that it's going through the normal motions of my voice menu, but i don't hear anything on the phone. |
| 20:20.28 | dudes | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.51 | pr0m | dudes: registration is fine. sip show registry shows that i'm attached to the broadvoice server. |
| 20:21.00 | pr0m | i just don't hear anything on the calling end. |
| 20:21.07 | dudes | pr0m - So, you can be registered have still have a SIP error |
| 20:21.25 | pr0m | dudes: rephrase please. |
| 20:21.56 | dudes | pr0m- Meaning just because you register doesn't mean you don't have a error in your config. Hence capture the debug and see what errors you get. |
| 20:24.33 | pr0m | dudes: i understand. hmmm. |
| 20:24.44 | pr0m | sip uses rtp for voice transport right? |
| 20:24.58 | pr0m | i'm forwarding all ports from my gateway to the asterisk server. |
| 20:25.00 | Qwell | pr0m: correct |
| 20:25.00 | dudes | pr0m - Also note what each invite is. Be it, Register/Invite |
| 20:25.10 | pr0m | but i'm wondering if my isp is blocking the rtp ports. |
| 20:25.32 | dudes | Why don't you capture some debug and post it on pastebin.ca |
| 20:25.47 | pr0m | ok. but i don't think it's going to help. |
| 20:26.11 | dudes | pr0m - it could be a nat issue |
| 20:26.15 | dudes | and in debug it would say |
| 20:26.23 | dudes | So try setting nat=yes in sip.conf |
| 20:26.52 | pr0m | what's the web address for pastebin? |
| 20:26.56 | Qwell | ~pastebin |
| 20:26.56 | jbot | from memory, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 20:27.08 | Qwell | isn't nat=yes in your config, for the other devices? |
| 20:27.28 | pr0m | http://pastebin.ca/20663 |
| 20:27.35 | *** join/#asterisk bbjunkie_ (n=bbjunkie@i-83-67-48-18.freedom2surf.net) |
| 20:27.48 | pr0m | that's with sip no debug. |
| 20:28.37 | pr0m | dudes: nat=yes |
| 20:28.42 | pr0m | got it already |
| 20:29.46 | pr0m | should nat=yes be in [general] for sip.conf? |
| 20:30.49 | dudes | I don't know if it's suppose to be in both general and the context |
| 20:30.53 | dudes | but I also put it in global |
| 20:30.53 | Qwell | pr0m: Are you trying to register a phone to your box, or your box to a provider? |
| 20:30.59 | nroej | wheee |
| 20:31.45 | paulc | I could do with getting drunk.. it's been a while.. |
| 20:32.35 | *** join/#asterisk file (n=jcolp@fctnnbsch17-156034040175.nb.aliant.net) |
| 20:32.37 | pr0m | register asterisk to my provider (broadvoice). |
| 20:32.49 | Qwell | Then you don't need nat=yes, I don't believe |
| 20:32.56 | Qwell | You just want to forward the sip and rtp ports to your box |
| 20:32.58 | *** join/#asterisk sigmounte (n=sigmount@www.sighq.net) |
| 20:33.12 | pr0m | all ports are forwarded to the asterisk box from my outside gateway. |
| 20:33.23 | dudes | try without nat=yes |
| 20:33.28 | Qwell | and you also set localnet= and externip=? |
| 20:33.35 | dudes | Or use sip debug so we can see the invites |
| 20:33.37 | pr0m | Qwell: yes. done. |
| 20:33.47 | pr0m | sure. i'll try sip debug. |
| 20:33.59 | dudes | cool |
| 20:34.00 | Qwell | Are you just not able to hear audio, or what? |
| 20:35.26 | paulc | can't we just say that asterisk behind NAT is nasty and best not done? TA-DA - problem solved! |
| 20:35.37 | Qwell | paulc++ |
| 20:35.47 | Qwell | Thats why asterisk needs ipv6 support. :p |
| 20:36.13 | paulc | but we're still living in an ipv4 world.. |
| 20:36.57 | *** join/#asterisk clive- (n=pirch@rrba-146-120-31.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 20:37.03 | file | problem solved |
| 20:37.37 | matthewc1 | If it were not for NAT, every computer with an network card would have an Internet IP. That would be worse, as IPs would be much more expensive then they would be today. |
| 20:37.37 | hugo-v6 | i would love to have ipv6 support as well |
| 20:37.46 | hugo-v6 | hope for 1.2 |
| 20:38.03 | *** join/#asterisk oe1 (n=oej@apollo.webway.se) |
| 20:38.35 | pr0m | http://pastebin.ca/20668 includes 'sip debug' |
| 20:38.43 | matthewc1 | It would be easer to get rid of SIP and use IAX. NAT problem solved! |
| 20:39.09 | pr0m | yea. i don't have any problems with my voicepulse connection using iax. |
| 20:39.11 | hugo-v6 | hmmm no hardphone vendor i know of uses iax :> |
| 20:39.18 | hugo-v6 | so sip is the way to go :p |
| 20:39.29 | Nivex | a revision to SIP that has some NAT awareness? |
| 20:39.31 | pr0m | i was hoping to get better rates with unlimited calling and 2cent toll free. |
| 20:39.55 | matthewc1 | All of my hard phones are behind the same NAT as asterisk, so it is not an issue. |
| 20:40.27 | hugo-v6 | matthewc1: but whats about the "customers" behind nat which want to connect to an asterisk server? |
| 20:40.28 | *** join/#asterisk [Baby20] (n=uN_IQ_uE@213.226.30.193) |
| 20:40.32 | pr0m | oops. ignore the voicepulse stuff in that pastebin. |
| 20:41.04 | matthewc1 | Define customer. Are you a VoIP provider? |
| 20:41.47 | hugo-v6 | nope. but i think about it ;) an additional feature for the customers. |
| 20:42.07 | *** join/#asterisk razu (n=razu@213-35-133-195-dsl.prn.estpak.ee) |
| 20:42.37 | bkw__ | neither does file |
| 20:42.39 | bkw__ | :P |
| 20:43.12 | matthewc1 | I guess I use Asterisk for only local office phones and connect to the PSTN via Zap or a VoIP provider via IAX. |
| 20:43.36 | hugo-v6 | i do exactly this but with pstn |
| 20:43.47 | file | yay... free stuff |
| 20:44.15 | Qwell | bkw__: You know, I've only used 8c so far? |
| 20:44.25 | pr0m | would someone tell me if udp port 14830 is closed or filtered on my asterisk server? |
| 20:44.28 | hugo-v6 | is there a solution for the sip/nat problem already? |
| 20:44.38 | matthewc1 | Not use both? |
| 20:44.41 | dudes | pr0m - I assume you are calling into broadvoice ? |
| 20:44.56 | pr0m | nmap -sU -p 14830 -P0 24.75.196.70 |
| 20:45.15 | Qwell | PORT STATE SERVICE |
| 20:45.15 | Qwell | 14830/udp open|filtered unknown |
| 20:45.26 | file | I think my ISP mucked with my profile for my account |
| 20:45.27 | pr0m | dudes: yes. i've tried calling from my cellphone and from my voicepulse account. |
| 20:45.32 | file | I'm on some access concentrator that I've never heard of |
| 20:45.46 | pr0m | Qwell: hmmm. |
| 20:45.59 | Madkiss | Qwell: To create an asterisk-tree with the BRI-stuff applied, I unpack asterisk-1.0.9 and copy the files from the bri-tarball over there? |
| 20:46.07 | Qwell | Madkiss: got me |
| 20:46.07 | dudes | pr0m - you mind posting your sip.conf |
| 20:46.17 | Qwell | surely it comes with a README file |
| 20:46.25 | hugo-v6 | Madkiss: pls read the readmes. |
| 20:46.45 | pr0m | dudes: just a sec. lemme sanitize. |
| 20:46.46 | file | dammit an hour and 14 minutes until Doctor Who |
| 20:46.50 | dudes | k |
| 20:46.55 | Nivex | file: where? |
| 20:46.59 | hugo-v6 | file: on which channel? |
| 20:47.09 | file | CBC Halifax :P |
| 20:47.21 | hugo-v6 | crap. dont get that in .de |
| 20:47.30 | hugo-v6 | via sat of course |
| 20:47.32 | file | Canadian Broadcasting Corporation! |
| 20:47.52 | Qwell | are there any public cidname databases? |
| 20:47.55 | *** join/#asterisk atmel (n=vlad@ip68-4-101-199.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 20:48.07 | hugo-v6 | cidname? |
| 20:48.11 | Qwell | callerid name? |
| 20:48.17 | hugo-v6 | ah |
| 20:48.18 | Qwell | query by cidnum, get cidname |
| 20:48.45 | dudes | pr0m - what codec are you using with both providers |
| 20:49.23 | pr0m | http://pastebin.ca/20670 |
| 20:49.30 | pr0m | ulaw is accepted. |
| 20:50.25 | file | Hmmhesays: poke |
| 20:50.34 | dudes | While I read through that ... you mind seeing what ,1,NoOp(${CALLERIDNUM}) will do when you call in |
| 20:50.35 | Hmmhesays | yo |
| 20:50.38 | Hmmhesays | howsit file |
| 20:50.49 | file | meh decent |
| 20:50.57 | file | uuuuuuuuuu? |
| 20:51.13 | Hmmhesays | got a bit of a cold, sitting around watching law & order svu |
| 20:51.18 | file | a cold?!? |
| 20:51.27 | paulc | summer cold.. it happens.. |
| 20:51.45 | paulc | from file? |
| 20:51.46 | file | eep it's paulc, he who hung up on me! |
| 20:51.52 | paulc | I had a call :-p |
| 20:51.57 | file | a likely story |
| 20:52.06 | file | I think you dropped a call file into your outgoing spool |
| 20:52.11 | *** join/#asterisk djin_ib (n=djin_ib@gridfox.xs4all.nl) |
| 20:52.20 | pr0m | dudes: i'm gonna have to take a short break. i have to complete a test online for school. |
| 20:52.22 | paulc | LMAO if I wanted to pretend I had a call I'd just make the ringer on my phone go |
| 20:52.30 | dudes | pr0m - k |
| 20:52.30 | file | uh huh |
| 20:52.31 | paulc | pr0m: may the force be with you |
| 20:52.39 | pr0m | i'll be back later. thanks for your help so far. :) |
| 20:52.48 | dudes | pr0m - have you tried setting broadvoice to a peer |
| 20:54.27 | jeffpc | very odd |
| 20:54.37 | jeffpc | I get asterisk to start up |
| 20:54.43 | jeffpc | it opens udp/4569 |
| 20:54.52 | dudes | iax2 |
| 20:54.52 | jeffpc | listens |
| 20:54.58 | jeffpc | but |
| 20:55.03 | jeffpc | it doesn't read from it |
| 20:55.11 | jeffpc | netstat output: |
| 20:55.12 | jeffpc | udp 109396 0 0.0.0.0:4569 0.0.0.0:* |
| 20:55.23 | Qwell | open on your firewall? |
| 20:55.29 | jeffpc | that's the Recv-Q that's 109396 |
| 20:55.40 | jeffpc | Qwell: yes |
| 20:57.20 | jeffpc | the only warnings it gives are: |
| 20:57.20 | jeffpc | http://68.194.24.168:10080/download/asterisk.log |
| 20:57.32 | jeffpc | I tried to disable db everywhere I could think of |
| 20:57.50 | jeffpc | also |
| 20:57.55 | jeffpc | the IAX timing interface |
| 20:57.58 | jeffpc | what is it? |
| 20:58.03 | jeffpc | a /dev file? |
| 20:58.09 | file | your permissions are off so it can't access the astdb file which is needed |
| 20:58.33 | file | and a timing interface is a hardware (or software using ztdummy) interface that provides a constant clock, used for timing |
| 20:59.21 | jeffpc | yay! |
| 20:59.33 | jeffpc | astdb permission fixed it |
| 21:00.26 | jeffpc | so I just load ztdummy and that fixes the timing warning? |
| 21:00.27 | jeffpc | cool |
| 21:01.13 | file | probably also have permission problems with it |
| 21:01.41 | jeffpc | not sure why, it was a debian package install... |
| 21:01.49 | jeffpc | and it works on my desktop just fine |
| 21:03.09 | luke-jr__ | my registration via SIP seems to be succeeding, but I'm not getting calls... any ideas? |
| 21:03.24 | luke-jr__ | oh, and Asterisk never shows the "registered with ..." line for it |
| 21:03.35 | luke-jr__ | http://pastebin.ca/20671 has sip debug |
| 21:03.45 | JunK-Y | slipknot rocks the house! |
| 21:03.57 | file | yeah you're registered |
| 21:04.08 | file | luke-jr__: did you do a sip debug and try to call your inbound number and see if anything happened? |
| 21:05.13 | jeffpc | the outgoing spool gets processed every ??? seconds/minutes? |
| 21:05.27 | luke-jr__ | file: yea, want a paste of it? |
| 21:05.51 | file | pastebin. |
| 21:06.05 | file | jeffpc: I could look, but it's like every second |
| 21:06.12 | jeffpc | ok |
| 21:06.27 | jeffpc | file: good enough answer for me |
| 21:06.57 | dudes | Anyone have issues with a X100P and callerID only working 1/20 of the time |
| 21:07.35 | zoa | everybody |
| 21:07.40 | file | zoa zoa zoa |
| 21:07.41 | zoa | thats why you should buy a tdm card |
| 21:07.45 | paulc | JunK-Y: Salut! :) |
| 21:07.49 | zoa | file go sit in the corner |
| 21:07.51 | file | uh don't get me started on the TDM card |
| 21:08.08 | dudes | I didn't buy a TDM because I'm too poor |
| 21:08.12 | Hogie | zoa: so instead, with the TDM card you dont get checking of dead circuits?:P |
| 21:08.39 | dudes | And I don't have a need for more than one FXO |
| 21:08.49 | *** join/#asterisk pa (n=Paolo@unaffiliated/pa) |
| 21:08.53 | zoa | the x100p also has that |
| 21:08.56 | zoa | its a lot of fun |
| 21:09.02 | zoa | put your cell phone on call forwarding |
| 21:09.08 | zoa | and get a bill for 48 hours |
| 21:09.19 | dudes | I only use it for local |
| 21:09.26 | file | why zoa, have you had experience with that? |
| 21:09.38 | zoa | yeah |
| 21:09.40 | zoa | was not funny |
| 21:09.40 | file | ; |
| 21:09.44 | zoa | a 48 hour voicemail |
| 21:10.08 | dudes | a voicemail timeout could've avoided that =p |
| 21:10.11 | paulc | oh file, always so huggy |
| 21:10.21 | file | paulc: don't make me hit redial |
| 21:10.25 | paulc | I thought there was a voicemail message duration limit of 3 minutes (by default, and configurable)? |
| 21:11.31 | dudes | I don't know |
| 21:13.47 | Hmmhesays | i hate it when n00bs use aah |
| 21:13.59 | file[laptop] | hot'n'sexy Hmmhesays yay |
| 21:14.03 | Hmmhesays | yo |
| 21:14.10 | paulc | they say aah yet you know the penny hasn't *quite* dropped? |
| 21:14.17 | Hmmhesays | aah should not be used by people who don't know what they are doing |
| 21:14.29 | file[laptop] | paulc: Doctor Who!!! |
| 21:14.48 | file[laptop] | but not yet sadly |
| 21:15.14 | file[laptop] | Nix! |
| 21:15.41 | paulc | ah! now the penny drops for me.. aah = AAH = Asterisk At Home |
| 21:15.47 | file[laptop] | yay kicking |
| 21:16.13 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@ti211210a080-0607.bb.online.no) |
| 21:16.15 | paulc | who all's going to VON Fall in Boston? |
| 21:16.26 | file[laptop] | paulc is |
| 21:16.26 | Netgeeks | $$$$ |
| 21:16.32 | Nix | File! |
| 21:16.43 | zoa | i'd love to go, but will be too expensive without invitation |
| 21:16.45 | paulc | I think I am.. but details are scarce so far.. |
| 21:18.28 | file[laptop] | Nix: the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire |
| 21:18.42 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I have some water! |
| 21:18.49 | file[laptop] | and I neeeeed to kill the USPS tracking system |
| 21:18.52 | MikeJ[Laptop] | awww.. forget it |
| 21:19.00 | Nix | :-) |
| 21:19.39 | MikeJ[Laptop] | just got home from shopping hell |
| 21:20.02 | file[laptop] | MikeJ[Laptop]: shopping? spending money? oh no |
| 21:20.04 | jeffpc | it's more fun |
| 21:20.06 | SwK | unity sux |
| 21:20.11 | luke-jr__ | file: it randomly started to work --;; |
| 21:20.14 | jeffpc | SwK: agreed |
| 21:20.17 | luke-jr__ | file: so can't get the debug info |
| 21:20.26 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yes |
| 21:20.32 | MikeJ[Laptop] | but now I have a hamper |
| 21:20.37 | luke-jr__ | file: no reason an outgoing call would ever do that, right? |
| 21:20.37 | SwK | let see how well we can kludge 6 different vendors crap under the same config interface |
| 21:20.41 | MikeJ[Laptop] | and new window coverings |
| 21:21.02 | file[laptop] | luke-jr__: in the world of VoIP, what you think won't happen will probably happen some time |
| 21:21.23 | luke-jr__ | file: what confuses me still tho is |
| 21:21.46 | luke-jr__ | file: I never get the message "Registered to 'IP', who sees us as 'IP'" ... |
| 21:21.53 | file[laptop] | that's for IAX2 |
| 21:21.58 | luke-jr__ | oh |
| 21:22.01 | luke-jr__ | SIP won't do that? :/ |
| 21:22.03 | file[laptop] | nope |
| 21:22.06 | file[laptop] | sip show registry. |
| 21:22.10 | luke-jr__ | why not? :| |
| 21:22.15 | file[laptop] | if you want it, code it |
| 21:22.46 | Nix | lol |
| 21:22.49 | luke-jr__ | not worth the trouble |
| 21:22.56 | Nix | Brain Surgery Sucks! |
| 21:23.05 | file[laptop] | Nix: exactly! |
| 21:24.03 | file[laptop] | I just had a realization, but I'll refrain from expressing it in here |
| 21:25.14 | MikeJ[Laptop] | express yourself? |
| 21:25.40 | file[laptop] | Unable to comply. |
| 21:26.34 | MikeJ[Laptop] | resistance is.... |
| 21:26.38 | MikeJ[Laptop] | reasonable |
| 21:26.49 | *** join/#asterisk meppl (n=mephisto@87.193.2.185) |
| 21:27.00 | bkw__ | OMG |
| 21:27.01 | bkw__ | its nix |
| 21:27.51 | *** part/#asterisk Equinox (n=secret@star.l93.com) |
| 21:28.05 | bkw__ | Nix whats up |
| 21:28.20 | [hC] | ergh.. i wish i could figure out what was making these sip extensions go unreachable behind nat... it only happens to some people, yet everyone is behind nat, and everyone has the same options in sip.conf |
| 21:28.29 | paulc | file: call me - I want to test something |
| 21:28.38 | bkw__ | [hC], the nat is loosing the translation |
| 21:28.43 | file[laptop] | paulc: fine fine |
| 21:28.54 | paulc | [hC] NAT session timeout thing? |
| 21:28.59 | bkw__ | lower your registration time to 60 seconds.. then 30 seconds.. then 15 seconds.... something to keep the session open |
| 21:29.15 | file[laptop] | paulc: cheeky bugger |
| 21:29.15 | [hC] | bkw_: yeah i know, but I cant for the life of me figure out why it would happen. I have qualify=yes on the * side, and nat keepalive turned on on the client side |
| 21:29.17 | bkw__ | vonage does 15 seconds |
| 21:29.23 | [hC] | bkw_: how can i lower reg time? |
| 21:29.23 | paulc | also some devices (like Sipura) have a NAT keepalive setting |
| 21:29.28 | file[laptop] | Your call can not be completed due to a temporary error. |
| 21:29.29 | paulc | bkw really? 15 second registrations? |
| 21:29.34 | paulc | file: oopsie! ;-) |
| 21:29.42 | [hC] | paulc: yeah one of my devices is a sipura (linksys actually) and it has nat keepalive enabled. |
| 21:29.53 | bkw__ | maxexpirey= |
| 21:30.01 | paulc | the box still says Sipura on it, no? :-p |
| 21:30.06 | bkw__ | paulc, yep |
| 21:30.11 | [hC] | another two are a cisco 7940 and 7912 |
| 21:30.16 | paulc | bkw__ wow.. traffic intensive much? |
| 21:30.18 | [hC] | maxexpiry... okay ill look at that. |
| 21:30.39 | bkw__ | paulc, yes but solves some major issues with NAT |
| 21:31.22 | [hC] | bkw_: its boggling, cause i have the same phone with the same setup registering from my house with no issues, yet this other guy with the same phone does. maybe my router just has higher nat timeout values |
| 21:31.35 | bkw__ | [hC], yep |
| 21:31.41 | bkw__ | not all nat is equal |
| 21:31.54 | bkw__ | some 10 dollar nat routers are really PAT |
| 21:32.02 | paulc | PAT? |
| 21:32.09 | bkw__ | Port Address Translation |
| 21:32.21 | bkw__ | its not full NAT |
| 21:32.44 | [hC] | should i set maxexpirey and deafultexpirey, or just max? |
| 21:32.49 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Pat is a very androgenous name |
| 21:32.53 | bkw__ | set them both |
| 21:32.58 | pfn | well, it's more like assymetrical vs. symmetric nat |
| 21:32.59 | bkw__ | MikeJ[Laptop], you're a smart ass |
| 21:33.02 | [hC] | have suggested values i can try? |
| 21:33.14 | bkw__ | try 60 |
| 21:33.20 | MikeJ[Laptop] | stop talking about my bottom |
| 21:33.20 | [hC] | for both? |
| 21:33.23 | bkw__ | sure |
| 21:33.32 | MikeJ[Laptop] | thanks |
| 21:33.39 | [hC] | K, i'll give 'er a go. |
| 21:33.49 | MikeJ[Laptop] | uhhhhh |
| 21:33.49 | [hC] | should know soon if it worked or not :) |
| 21:34.04 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I'm sweaty cuz it's hot out.. you might not want to do that |
| 21:34.12 | bkw__ | yummy |
| 21:34.29 | MikeJ[Laptop] | no.. grose... it's icky hot and sticky... |
| 21:34.33 | bkw__ | haha |
| 21:34.39 | MikeJ[Laptop] | well it is |
| 21:34.46 | file[laptop] | I'm not even going to comment on that. |
| 21:34.51 | file[laptop] | bkw__: you sure do get around |
| 21:35.04 | paulc | but not as much as file gets around ;) |
| 21:35.42 | file[laptop] | you would know, eh paul? |
| 21:35.52 | paulc | I can safely say "I've never been there" :-p |
| 21:36.01 | file[laptop] | yeah - right! |
| 21:36.02 | bkw__ | thats not what I seen in SFO |
| 21:36.08 | bkw__ | you two disappeared for a few |
| 21:36.11 | paulc | LMAO :D |
| 21:36.18 | file[laptop] | we went back to paul's room |
| 21:36.22 | paulc | oh my god.. I'm seriously laughing out loud in a big way.. |
| 21:36.27 | paulc | that was in SJO |
| 21:36.38 | paulc | and as I recall, file crashed out on the bed and fell asleep on his laptop |
| 21:36.41 | bkw__ | SJC |
| 21:36.42 | paulc | pics to prove it |
| 21:36.46 | file[laptop] | pfft |
| 21:36.47 | bkw__ | but we did go to SFO too |
| 21:36.59 | file[laptop] | we tried to negotiate our protocols |
| 21:37.04 | bkw__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.05 | file[laptop] | but they were incompatible |
| 21:37.24 | paulc | http://myworld.q2u.net/images/Photoblog_20050320_SleepingFile.html |
| 21:37.35 | [hC] | SJO? dontcha mean SJC? :) |
| 21:37.39 | file[laptop] | that was after the paulc had his way! |
| 21:37.42 | [hC] | SJO is San Jose Costa Rica |
| 21:37.57 | paulc | I stand corrected |
| 21:38.15 | [hC] | :P I lived there for a while, and it threw me for a loop at first too. |
| 21:38.31 | file[laptop] | we'll rant and we'll roar like true Newfoundlanders |
| 21:38.34 | zoa | paulc: how much do you make with your google ads ? |
| 21:38.56 | [hC] | This is crazy. occasionally people will call me, and ill answer. They'll still hear ringing, and i can hear the ringing as well. I can hear what they're hearing, just quieter. |
| 21:39.06 | paulc | like.. pennies? I dunno actually. I can't remember the last time I logged in to look.. I just figured adding them to my blog might be worth a laugh.. |
| 21:39.16 | bkw__ | like penisis? |
| 21:39.16 | file[laptop] | yay money |
| 21:39.24 | file[laptop] | bkw touched me! |
| 21:40.10 | *** join/#asterisk _dan__t (n=dant@69.93.33.54) |
| 21:40.22 | [hC] | ooh. beta grandstream firmware. |
| 21:40.24 | [hC] | hehe |
| 21:40.28 | file[laptop] | yup |
| 21:40.56 | paulc | WOOT! $9.74 in google revenue! |
| 21:41.03 | file[laptop] | WOW!!! |
| 21:41.10 | zoa | today ??? |
| 21:41.21 | paulc | lmao.. no.. all time! |
| 21:41.27 | zoa | ah :) |
| 21:41.38 | paulc | fuck.. if that was in a day I could almost afford to jack in the day job! |
| 21:41.58 | zoa | :) |
| 21:42.08 | paulc | interesting stats.. one day I had like 60 impressions.. 1 click.. and made $1.33! |
| 21:42.38 | [hC] | so on a busy site that targeted google ads, you could make a decent dollar or two.. |
| 21:42.50 | [hC] | i really wonder what sorts of people click on ads |
| 21:42.58 | [hC] | i mean it just leads you down a path of uselessness |
| 21:43.11 | paulc | not ALWAYS... but generally, sure |
| 21:43.19 | zoa | its not so easy to make a busy site saddly enough :) |
| 21:43.43 | paulc | I guess if you're reading my blog and I'm ranting and raving about shit, it's probably not much use.. but if you had one of those targetted blogs "I write all about the latest in GSM phones" etc, the links are way more relevant and interesting |
| 21:43.47 | zoa | unless its porn |
| 21:44.01 | *** join/#asterisk mango_ripe (n=dotcommu@IGLD-80-230-207-29.inter.net.il) |
| 21:44.20 | zoa | i used to have a 20.000 visitors a day website |
| 21:44.21 | adelas` | hey can someone tell me wats wrong here, i can't call in , but i can call out, http://pastebin.ca/20676 |
| 21:44.29 | zoa | think i earned 50$ on that one |
| 21:44.48 | zoa | in 2 years |
| 21:44.52 | paulc | adelas`: paste your extensions.conf? |
| 21:47.43 | Nix | bkw__: hey. |
| 21:48.12 | adelas` | http://pastebin.ca/20678 |
| 21:48.15 | *** part/#asterisk war- (n=war@iniquity.net) |
| 21:48.26 | adelas` | thats my extentions and extentions_additional conf |
| 21:49.12 | paulc | explain which context your sip client that you're dialling out is in, and what number you're trying to call that's causing outbound to fail |
| 21:49.43 | adelas` | my sip is my mediatrix |
| 21:49.45 | file[laptop] | it's AMP isn't it? |
| 21:49.51 | adelas` | and its amp :( |
| 21:50.13 | adelas` | i'm tryin to dial into my asterisk box, through the mediatrix device(sip gateway) |
| 21:50.26 | adelas` | 2000 is the DID i believe |
| 21:50.46 | adelas` | tryin to call out to extention 200, which is my cisco phone |
| 21:51.10 | adelas` | on the cisco phones i can call intou asterisk box and out to medaitrx and out to phone line so calling out works |
| 21:51.32 | bkw__ | Nix wasaib |
| 21:51.50 | bkw__ | paulc that might be wise |
| 21:52.19 | file[laptop] | nope |
| 21:52.25 | file[laptop] | no hugs for AMP users |
| 21:52.32 | paulc | It's got to be something with the context of the device you're calling in from.. and the dialplan for that context.. |
| 21:52.37 | mango_ripe | did you configure it using AMP? if so you have probably configured the gateway as a peer |
| 21:52.37 | paulc | oh dear.. no love for the AMP people eh |
| 21:53.00 | paulc | BULLY! |
| 21:53.01 | file[laptop] | yay Doctor Who soon |
| 21:53.08 | paulc | whoah! |
| 21:53.23 | bkw__ | meds? |
| 21:53.27 | paulc | there there.. calm blue ocean.. calm blue ocean.. find a happy place.. |
| 21:53.30 | bkw__ | share baby share |
| 21:53.38 | bkw__ | bad touch.. bad touch... |
| 21:53.40 | adelas` | i config the sip trunk using amo |
| 21:53.41 | bkw__ | no daddy no |
| 21:53.42 | adelas` | amp |
| 21:53.48 | Qwell | wtf |
| 21:53.50 | paulc | yeah, you know.. those pills that file takes to stop him going postal and taking out everyone in the surrounding area.. |
| 21:54.02 | paulc | curbs his violent tendencies.. mostly.. |
| 21:54.03 | adelas` | i do have the gateway config as freind |
| 21:54.57 | mango_ripe | and what context is it in? |
| 21:55.34 | *** join/#asterisk puzzled (n=patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl) |
| 21:56.03 | file[laptop] | T-Minus 5 minutes until Doctor Who |
| 21:56.04 | adelas` | host=mymedaitrxip |
| 21:56.21 | *** join/#asterisk harryvv (n=none@S010600a0c93f6f7e.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 21:56.23 | adelas` | and context=from-pstn |
| 21:56.29 | puzzled | evening all |
| 21:56.43 | adelas` | and type=friend |
| 21:57.08 | bkw__ | T-Minus 8 inches... and counting |
| 21:57.11 | harryvv | hello puzzled |
| 21:57.15 | bkw__ | we |
| 21:57.20 | harryvv | bkw? |
| 21:57.23 | bkw__ | ys? |
| 21:57.29 | harryvv | what u talking about |
| 21:57.30 | zedkatuf | adelas - are using A@H or not? |
| 21:57.37 | adelas` | i am using it ? |
| 21:57.39 | bkw__ | i'm a dirty dirty pig boy! |
| 21:57.53 | harryvv | mmm |
| 21:57.54 | paulc | 200 is in your ext-local not ext-did, which is included by from-pstn |
| 21:58.02 | paulc | so.. exten 200 doesn't exist for the mediatrix, make sense? |
| 21:58.41 | adelas` | not really |
| 21:59.17 | paulc | you can only dial extensions that are in the same context as where the call is originating from, or other contexts that are included in that context.. |
| 21:59.18 | paulc | so... |
| 21:59.27 | harryvv | I was just talking to a programer for a hospital on the idea of voip. thay are having internal strugles between IT network support and developers blaming each other for down time at times on network problems and voip is the last thing on there minds |
| 21:59.41 | harryvv | to bad, I bet thay could benifit from it. |
| 21:59.47 | paulc | VoIP in a hospital.. let's talk more.. cos I've been spoken to about that.. |
| 21:59.50 | mango_ripe | you can include [ext-local] to make it work |
| 21:59.55 | paulc | 4000+ extensions and 20 PRIs.. |
| 22:00.20 | harryvv | paulc, the idea of putting in more ethernet just for the phones is right now finacially out of the question. |
| 22:00.23 | paulc | wouldn't really know where to begin with something that size.. lots of pizza boxes, sure.. but then what? common config via NFS.. sure.. and.. dundi? |
| 22:00.47 | paulc | harryvv can't they just use what's there already? |
| 22:01.09 | paulc | or use POTS phones with VoIP back end? probably not feasible - they probably have digital key sets all over the place right now eh |
| 22:01.23 | harryvv | paulc, this is a hospital...very high liability operation. I would not even think about shareing it with the data network. |
| 22:01.28 | paulc | my question was more about "how do you build a fuck off great big huge scaleable PBX solution using Asterisk" |
| 22:01.48 | *** join/#asterisk robin_sz (n=robin@adsl.redpoint.org.uk) |
| 22:01.48 | bkw__ | harryvv, you're using Asterisk in a hospital? |
| 22:01.56 | robin_sz | meep? |
| 22:02.03 | paulc | harryvv: yeah, that's how I feel.. I saw the RFI and kinda had a heart attack when I realised one of the sites was a hospital |
| 22:02.08 | bkw__ | care to tell me which one that is.. so I know not to go there |
| 22:02.13 | harryvv | bkw, no was just talking to somone I know of who is a developer at a hospital. |
| 22:02.22 | harryvv | its was just casual talk |
| 22:03.08 | *** join/#asterisk hellagony (n=hellagon@201.240.101.1) |
| 22:03.12 | paulc | bkw__ if someone said you "We want a 'phone system' to replace what we've got now (a 4000 port 20 T1 traditional PBX)" - would you pitch asterisk? |
| 22:03.14 | harryvv | And I am sure thay would want a company of avaible people to support it the instant it went down..not one person :) |
| 22:03.25 | bkw__ | paulc, NO |
| 22:03.33 | *** join/#asterisk _Hunter_ (i=Hunter@201.3.213.236) |
| 22:03.34 | hugo-v6 | hmz. |
| 22:03.37 | harryvv | who is BT? |
| 22:03.44 | robin_sz | British Telecom |
| 22:03.49 | paulc | British Telecom? |
| 22:03.56 | harryvv | stop bussiness? thats funny |
| 22:04.12 | paulc | bkw__ Nor me.. but why? |
| 22:04.14 | paulc | uptime/reliability? |
| 22:04.16 | hugo-v6 | my now connected dect phone (on the hfc-s card) signals disruption |
| 22:04.17 | paulc | scaleability? |
| 22:04.31 | bkw__ | all three |
| 22:04.36 | zedkatuf | robin_sz: how are they doing that? |
| 22:04.41 | hugo-v6 | crap. |
| 22:05.02 | robin_sz | they offer you a deal to cap your inland calls at 10p for up to 60 mins, mobile calls at 25p ... no charge to enable this tariff |
| 22:05.02 | hugo-v6 | ok now trying bristuff rc8n |
| 22:05.11 | robin_sz | BUT ... |
| 22:05.30 | zedkatuf | .... |
| 22:05.31 | paulc | T1 gateways I get.. 4 T1s per box, 5 boxes, done.. inbound easily done.. outbound more or less the same.. but then there's the "how do you look after 4000 phones with multiple boxes" type deal |
| 22:05.31 | robin_sz | turns out there is a £500 "spending commitment" |
| 22:05.38 | _Hunter_ | alguem Fala portugues? |
| 22:05.41 | zedkatuf | ok |
| 22:05.44 | *** join/#asterisk derek1234 (n=derek@203.167.203.10) |
| 22:05.54 | bkw__ | paulc, you would use SER |
| 22:05.55 | zedkatuf | so only useful for largish organisations then |
| 22:06.00 | bkw__ | and something else to interface to the PSTN |
| 22:06.11 | robin_sz | if you dont reach £500 @ 10p a call, you chave ot pay the savings back to them |
| 22:06.16 | zedkatuf | __Hunter__ Nao muito |
| 22:06.27 | zedkatuf | Falo espanol umo poquito |
| 22:06.34 | robin_sz | zedkatuf: they "forget" to mention this in the sign up calls ... |
| 22:06.45 | zedkatuf | robin_sz: fair nuff..aaahhhhhhh |
| 22:06.59 | paulc | bkw__ but same kinda deal.. multiple boxes with failover/load balancing etc.. |
| 22:06.59 | robin_sz | I am hating them |
| 22:07.15 | netsurfer | robin_sz - i always have |
| 22:07.17 | bkw__ | zedkatuf, Hable inglés por favor |
| 22:07.25 | paulc | robin_sz Kick 'em hard.. it was never made clear etc |
| 22:07.45 | robin_sz | so .. 3 months later I can either continue with BT ... or pay a fine to switch to VOIP ... |
| 22:07.49 | bkw__ | 講英語請 |
| 22:08.01 | mog_home | indeed brian |
| 22:08.05 | bkw__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.23 | bkw__ | Поговорите английÑкую Ñзык пожалуйÑта |
| 22:08.33 | bkw__ | mog_home, you understand that one? |
| 22:08.58 | mog_home | heh |
| 22:09.00 | mog_home | yeah |
| 22:09.06 | *** join/#asterisk Jzaaalae (n=sk@216-220-248-39.midmaine.com) |
| 22:09.14 | mog_home | i prefer samuel l jackson though |
| 22:09.25 | mog_home | "ENGLISH MOTHER FUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT" |
| 22:09.32 | bkw__ | hahahah |
| 22:09.34 | bkw__ | I recall that line |
| 22:09.43 | paulc | they just used the word "clit" LMAO |
| 22:10.10 | bkw__ | paulc, that isn't even the best part |
| 22:11.12 | robin_sz | no |
| 22:11.15 | robin_sz | you are wrong |
| 22:11.27 | *** join/#asterisk Asterisk-Admin (n=as@83.70.118.122) |
| 22:11.35 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@ti211210a080-0607.bb.online.no) |
| 22:11.44 | paulc | oh - he's kinda cute looking! |
| 22:12.02 | robin_sz | bkw__: with respect .. I think you are wrong about that ... |
| 22:12.28 | bkw__ | robin_sz, about? |
| 22:12.30 | robin_sz | bkw__: the clit is the best part ;) |
| 22:12.38 | bkw__ | robin_sz, I wouldn't know |
| 22:12.49 | zoa | <bkw__> Te spreken gelieve het Engels -> where did you get that ? |
| 22:12.51 | zoa | thats dutch! |
| 22:12.57 | zoa | mog |
| 22:13.00 | zoa | you speak dutch ? |
| 22:13.08 | mog_home | enough to know what that means |
| 22:13.10 | zoa | ah, bable fish |
| 22:13.14 | Asterisk-Admin | any1 got a few minutes to help me with an * upgrade thats gone t**ts up? |
| 22:13.18 | mog_home | i know how to say do you speak english |
| 22:13.21 | zoa | its not correct dutch anyway |
| 22:13.22 | mog_home | in like 40 languages |
| 22:13.31 | mog_home | or i used to |
| 22:13.36 | mog_home | know its probably 10 |
| 22:13.36 | bkw__ | zoa why do you ask? |
| 22:13.38 | zoa | it should have been: gelieve engels te spreken |
| 22:13.46 | zoa | because its my native language |
| 22:13.48 | robin_sz | zeker, weet u wij allen het Nederlands op hier spreken? |
| 22:14.01 | zoa | another babblefish person ? :) |
| 22:14.03 | mog_home | how many languages you speak zoa? |
| 22:14.05 | bkw__ | Brian schommelt totaal en u kent het |
| 22:14.06 | robin_sz | tee hee |
| 22:14.06 | paulc | Asterisk-Admin: As the admin, shouldn't you know what to do? ;-) |
| 22:14.15 | paulc | make clean ; make install = sorted |
| 22:14.20 | *** join/#asterisk w0w0 (n=w0w0@83.Red-83-33-50.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:14.24 | zoa | brian, that made no sense |
| 22:14.34 | robin_sz | personally, I think Systran does a better job |
| 22:14.38 | bkw__ | haha |
| 22:14.43 | zoa | you said something like brian plays on the children playground and u know it |
| 22:14.49 | zoa | well not really know |
| 22:14.54 | Asterisk-Admin | i normally do but stuck on this one |
| 22:14.59 | zoa | its more like you are familiar with it |
| 22:15.05 | zedkatuf | __Hunter___ |
| 22:15.11 | zedkatuf | Voces aqui agora? |
| 22:15.24 | Asterisk-Admin | make clean; make install != sorted this time |
| 22:15.37 | *** part/#asterisk __Hunter__ (i=Hunter@201.3.213.236) |
| 22:15.58 | paulc | What seems to be the problem? |
| 22:16.07 | zedkatuf | ah well,,frightened him off ... :( |
| 22:16.16 | Asterisk-Admin | /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_modem_i4l.so: undefined symbol: ast_unregister_modem_driver |
| 22:16.54 | *** join/#asterisk jalsot (n=tamas@abacus.eworldcom.hu) |
| 22:17.12 | paulc | Dawn and Drew just said "Double Dong" - omg they're too funny bkw__! |
| 22:17.34 | hugo-v6 | it still bugs but i hear my asterisk |
| 22:18.47 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPower (n=eric@dsl-209-16-67-160.datasync.com) |
| 22:20.07 | bkw__ | paulc, they are the BEST |
| 22:20.53 | RoyK | morning |
| 22:20.54 | paulc | I wanna see more pics of the guy! |
| 22:20.56 | *** join/#asterisk brc_ (n=brc@ip70-176-64-134.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 22:21.01 | hugo-v6 | hi ManxPower |
| 22:21.07 | RoyK | brc_: hi |
| 22:21.56 | brc_ | hi RoyK |
| 22:21.58 | brc_ | sup |
| 22:22.08 | RoyK | not a whole lot |
| 22:22.45 | bkw__ | hoe lot |
| 22:22.58 | RoyK | just trying to get this badass server going with a sangoma card........ |
| 22:23.27 | mog_home | that can be a problem.... |
| 22:23.31 | RoyK | bkw_: hoe? |
| 22:23.45 | bkw__ | you a hoe! |
| 22:23.48 | bkw__ | ho ho ho |
| 22:23.51 | mog_home | heh |
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| 22:25.41 | bkw__ | paulc, which episode are you listening to? |
| 22:25.57 | paulc | the latest one |
| 22:25.58 | bkw__ | episode 122 is fun |
| 22:26.03 | bkw__ | start there and go up |
| 22:26.16 | bkw__ | well 119 and up |
| 22:26.20 | bkw__ | but 122 is one of my favs |
| 22:26.25 | paulc | k.. I'll do that in a bit.. listening to podfinder right now.. |
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| 22:37.23 | faewko | Has anyone hooked up a mobile phone to free mobile-to-mobile calling to an asterisk box? |
| 22:37.29 | zedkatuf | ooh |
| 22:37.32 | zedkatuf | that'd be |
| 22:37.34 | zedkatuf | nice |
| 22:37.42 | zedkatuf | to know if somone has |
| 22:37.43 | paulc | it was on slashdot the other day |
| 22:37.51 | faewko | paulc - No, not really. |
| 22:37.52 | paulc | I think using a dock'n'talk unit |
| 22:37.55 | bkw__ | you guys HAVE no idea |
| 22:38.01 | puzzled | faewko: you could try chan_bluetooth |
| 22:38.01 | zedkatuf | nope |
| 22:38.05 | faewko | paulc - The one on slashdot was putting up your own gsm cell. |
| 22:38.28 | paulc | and if you read the comments, it pointed to a previous ask slashdot where they talked about doing exactly what was just asked |
| 22:38.35 | zedkatuf | bkw__ re no idea.precisely why I'm here :) |
| 22:38.52 | bkw__ | I would tell you what I just told paulc |
| 22:38.58 | faewko | paulc - Well, I didn't read the comments because it looked like it was obviously a idfferent topic. but it gave me this idea :) |
| 22:38.58 | bkw__ | but i'm not gonna |
| 22:39.02 | zedkatuf | lol |
| 22:39.11 | faewko | hehe |
| 22:39.22 | paulc | faewko: go read the comments and find the link.. cos it's been done already.. |
| 22:39.26 | faewko | I could probably use a home cell phone adapter to a voice modem card... but that's bulky. |
| 22:39.33 | zedkatuf | ahh...I'll cease being a wet-behind-ears newbie one day :) |
| 22:39.39 | zedkatuf | (in abt 10 yrs mebbe) |
| 22:40.30 | paulc | we all started somewhere.. |
| 22:40.34 | zedkatuf | yeah |
| 22:40.38 | paulc | but there's a lot more info online than there was a while back.. |
| 22:40.41 | zedkatuf | me abt 5 days ago |
| 22:40.44 | zedkatuf | yes |
| 22:40.46 | paulc | too many people don't google/RFTM/whatever |
| 22:40.49 | zedkatuf | almost too much for the newb |
| 22:40.54 | zedkatuf | well, I do.... |
| 22:41.00 | paulc | (someone asked me the other day what RTFM meant - I tried not to laugh) |
| 22:41.04 | zedkatuf | .but nevertheless... |
| 22:41.15 | zedkatuf | ..still takes it out of yer.. |
| 22:41.22 | zedkatuf | &nicer to talk to so |
| 22:41.23 | zedkatuf | somone |
| 22:41.37 | zedkatuf | ^e |
| 22:41.54 | faewko | I did google it wouthout much luck. |
| 22:42.03 | faewko | The best I can find off that artcile is this... http://store.voxilla.com/customer/product.php?productid=16136 |
| 22:42.06 | faewko | And even that is bulky |
| 22:42.07 | zedkatuf | Iam interested in cheaper cell to landline calls using my * box though |
| 22:42.09 | *** join/#asterisk mejp (n=java@69-167-25-1.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 22:42.22 | faewko | zedkatuf - Don't you have free ld? :) |
| 22:42.23 | zedkatuf | that's surely been done without too much hardware hacking? |
| 22:42.43 | zedkatuf | faewko: mebbbe..if I knew what it was :P |
| 22:42.46 | faewko | zedkatuf - that's easy, get a did in and 2 centminute providero ut =) |
| 22:42.53 | paulc | that's what the slashdot article was on about.. you use the dock'n'talk.. and a second mobile.. call from your cell phone to the other one, then out via VoIP from your asterisk box to PSTN |
| 22:43.07 | mejp | hi |
| 22:43.12 | zedkatuf | paulc...ah, ok |
| 22:43.19 | zedkatuf | I'll take a loof |
| 22:43.24 | zedkatuf | I'll take a look |
| 22:43.26 | faewko | paulc - Is there any solution that might fit, in say, a 1u rackmount case? =) |
| 22:43.27 | zedkatuf | I mean :P |
| 22:43.31 | mejp | just poking my head in to see what's going on. I am new here and new to askterisk |
| 22:43.43 | zedkatuf | mejp: V steep learning curve |
| 22:43.52 | paulc | faewko: Not that I know of but no reason why there wouldn't be something like that out there.. SIP/GSM gateway |
| 22:44.03 | faewko | I hoped someone would make a direct way to interface with the phone from the pc. bluetooth or headset port. |
| 22:44.09 | mejp | steep=good |
| 22:44.34 | mejp | zedkatuf...makes for more interesting times...don't you think? |
| 22:44.45 | zedkatuf | faewko: umm, what's a free Id..or was that a joke :) |
| 22:44.52 | zedkatuf | lol |
| 22:45.07 | zedkatuf | mejp: depends on how much caffeine u have in ur cupboard :P |
| 22:45.34 | faewko | zedkatuf - free did? |
| 22:45.39 | faewko | stanaphone.com if you're ok with new york. |
| 22:45.39 | puzzled | does realtime, double sip registration servers and DNS SRV records make a good failover system? any other suggestions? |
| 22:45.46 | file[laptop] | DIE COMMERCIALS DIE |
| 22:46.19 | zedkatuf | faewko: ah, ok, gotitt |
| 22:46.45 | puzzled | paulc: how's the add skipping algorithm working these days? |
| 22:47.14 | Asterisk-Admin | is any1 using chan_capi-0.4.0-PRE1 with asterisk? Does it work? |
| 22:47.55 | puzzled | Asterisk-Admin: i use 0.5.4 from sourceforge.net and it works fine on stable and head |
| 22:47.59 | paulc | puzzled: Pretty good.. that said, I'm not on the latest/greatest release, maybe one or two back.. but for the most part it works ok.. I have it set to notify rather than auto-skip.. but one button press and I'm back in the action |
| 22:48.25 | puzzled | paulc: nice. the network execs must be tearing their hair out :) |
| 22:50.00 | mejp | coping |
| 22:50.07 | paulc | hehe.. probably.. just like the music execs with all this new fangled "podcasting" magic |
| 22:50.20 | Asterisk-Admin | puzzled: iwas not aware of that version, not mentioned on jungmanns.net, will give it a go thanks.. |
| 22:51.18 | hugo-v6 | well... zaphfc is working. but the soundquality is really poor :/ |
| 22:51.47 | puzzled | hugo-v6: in what way? |
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| 22:51.53 | hugo-v6 | fine til lasterisk. but after routing into pstn the quality sucks |
| 22:52.22 | puzzled | hugo-v6: any echo? and if so on which side is it heard? |
| 22:52.29 | hugo-v6 | puzzled: setup: isdn-phone via hfc-s based card into asterisk ok. via avm b1 into pstn. soundquality poor. |
| 22:52.46 | ta[i]nted | lol |
| 22:52.52 | hugo-v6 | sec have to look dont remember a echo |
| 22:53.02 | SCM | hugo-v6 yre you talking bout zaphfc in general or special release? |
| 22:53.03 | ta[i]nted | and voip is supposed to improve on analog? |
| 22:53.17 | ta[i]nted | "isdn-phone via hfc-s based card into asterisk ok. via avm b1 into pstn." |
| 22:53.23 | hugo-v6 | scm: atm in general |
| 22:53.42 | SCM | hugo-v6 i got 2 hfc-s cards internal - * - external |
| 22:53.46 | SCM | no sound probs |
| 22:54.08 | hugo-v6 | scm: i havent heard about problems os i think its my setup which sucks ;) |
| 22:54.13 | puzzled | hugo-v6: is your isdn phone powered through an NT-1? |
| 22:54.14 | SCM | hrhr ic |
| 22:54.20 | hugo-v6 | puzzled: its dect. so no. |
| 22:55.00 | puzzled | hugo-v6: I thought that if you hook up a phone to an hfc-s card, the line needs to be powered. maybe I'm wrong though. there is some info on jolly.de iirc |
| 22:55.28 | hugo-v6 | puzzled: no echo. the voicebox of my mobile sounds like puking |
| 22:55.34 | SCM | while we're at it (questions)... sharing of dialplans with 2 * (iax2 connected).. how does that work? didnt really understand the howtos. any hints? |
| 22:56.03 | SCM | puzzled his phone got its own power supply, as I understand it... (?) |
| 22:56.07 | puzzled | SCM: not an expert but did you look at the switch statement |
| 22:56.09 | hugo-v6 | puzzled: indeed there is, but dect phones are always selfpowered |
| 22:56.19 | puzzled | ah, ok |
| 22:56.27 | hugo-v6 | scm: right |
| 22:56.31 | SCM | puzzled thats e-xac-tly what I dodnt understand ;) |
| 22:57.06 | puzzled | SCM: can't help you other than suggesting the obvious like voip-info.org, google and emailing the list |
| 22:57.07 | SCM | wll anyway... gota do more reading on voipinfoorg |
| 22:57.16 | SCM | lol |
| 22:57.17 | SCM | yeah |
| 22:57.18 | SCM | :) |
| 22:57.24 | hugo-v6 | hmmm what makes me mad is that calling via sip-phone into pstn the quality is perfect |
| 22:57.57 | SCM | hugo-v6 why dont you use 2 hfc-s cards? saves a lot of trouble. they're even cheaper |
| 22:58.39 | hugo-v6 | scm: well im sure this will work. but as told, with sip-phone into pstn via avm b1 the quality is perfekt |
| 22:58.51 | hugo-v6 | i call my gf everyday with this setup ;) |
| 22:58.56 | faewko | Off topic -- but is there a cheaper way to get cell phone service from verizon than from them? I need one line to interface with asterisk. I know the cheapest is probably hooking on homeone elses plan... but any ideas? |
| 22:59.11 | SCM | hugo-v6 ok ic |
| 22:59.23 | hugo-v6 | i think of codecs or something |
| 22:59.36 | hugo-v6 | SCM: did you do changes on codes or stuff? |
| 23:00.14 | SCM | hugo-v6 codecs? using alaw gsm mostly |
| 23:00.21 | hugo-v6 | hmmm |
| 23:00.22 | SCM | dont have a g.729 licence |
| 23:00.44 | SCM | though it's probably worth it |
| 23:01.04 | SCM | but i got 512k up, and dont make 10 calls at the same time.. so alaw works for me |
| 23:01.24 | ManxPower | um 10 alaw calls would use 800k |
| 23:01.29 | SCM | hrhr |
| 23:01.42 | ManxPower | 64k audio + overhead = about 80ks |
| 23:01.42 | SCM | thats what im saying.. dont need it :) |
| 23:01.54 | SCM | ManxPower youre right |
| 23:02.22 | hugo-v6 | hmmm from isdn dect to sip phone also works well |
| 23:02.33 | SCM | hey! can someone explain to me, why g.729 uses 8k for the codec but still 30some k incl. overhead? |
| 23:02.52 | hugo-v6 | somewhere in asterisk/routing there is bug in my setup which i havent found |
| 23:03.01 | pbd | SCM: Overhead is overhead- it's TCP. |
| 23:03.09 | dudes | SCM - use a iax trunk |
| 23:03.10 | pbd | SCM- Same overhead for all codecs, really.. |
| 23:03.34 | pbd | SCM: only way around it- as dudes says, is IAX- and there's still SOME overhead there. |
| 23:03.42 | SCM | pbd ? saw lots of tables... overhead != overhead in different codecs? |
| 23:04.10 | pbd | SCM (before I get flamed.. yes I know, it's more than straight TCP, it's signalling, etc.. point is, it's necessary for all protocols, even IRC) |
| 23:04.12 | SCM | .oO(i do NOT really understand that networking stuff ;) |
| 23:04.57 | SCM | anyway. g.729 sounds good at first, but in the end it uses 30k |
| 23:04.59 | SCM | right? |
| 23:05.24 | pbd | SCM: Don't confuse protocol with codec. Codec is how you turn essentially analog data (voice) into a digital stream (RTP).. various codecs do that well or poorly or your envitonment. |
| 23:05.44 | pbd | SCM: Protocol is used to get the RTP (codec stream) from point A to point B. |
| 23:05.44 | dudes | SCM - g729 is really good if your machine can handle it |
| 23:06.01 | pbd | SCM: IAX, as a protocol (not a codec) is less chatty than say, SIP. |
| 23:06.04 | ManxPower | IAX does not use RTP, but it's the same concept. |
| 23:06.27 | pbd | Manx: yeah.. but for simplistic purposes.. close enough. :) |
| 23:06.55 | SCM | pbd yes. but whatever the codec data contains, RTP shuold always handel it the same way... (i tink) - so why has g.729 take MORE additional bw than G.711 |
| 23:07.02 | pbd | I can make IAX consume 70K using ulaw, for instance.. while ulaw on h.323 is more like the 80k. |
| 23:07.03 | hugo-v6 | well got ugly logs in dmesg. which only occur when i call a number in pstn network |
| 23:07.10 | mejp | pbd, can you use askterisk to connect to sip? |
| 23:07.11 | zedkatuf | dudes: handle as in CPU meaty nuff? |
| 23:07.28 | dudes | for trancoding |
| 23:07.40 | zedkatuf | ok, I have a 1.7GHz celeron |
| 23:07.43 | dudes | err transcoding |
| 23:07.49 | ManxPower | SCM: Um, most protocols using the same audio transport (RTP) will have about the same overhead. |
| 23:07.49 | zedkatuf | & 768mb ram |
| 23:08.04 | SCM | ManxPower ok thats what i thought.. |
| 23:08.18 | hugo-v6 | SCM: on which hw runs your asterisk with the both hfc-s cards? |
| 23:08.29 | SCM | hugo-v6 2.6 celeron - 512 MB |
| 23:08.38 | pbd | SCM: Might want ot check your math a little. ULAW: 64K, bit in practice, around 80K, over say, H.323. So, roughly 16K in overhead. 729 is 8k, but in practice over h.323, will consume up to 30K.. let's see.. 8+16=24.. close enough to 30 for my book- and *nothing* is so simple as this math. |
| 23:08.43 | hugo-v6 | mkay. here: intel p3 450mhz |
| 23:09.13 | SCM | pbd *cough* ooookkkkk ;) got me there! ;) |
| 23:09.19 | dudes | I got a k2-500 running asterisk |
| 23:09.26 | SCM | (Im SO stupid - i thought in %age) |
| 23:09.41 | dudes | But I also have a XP 2800 doing the hard stuff |
| 23:09.45 | pbd | SCM: Not stupid- just new at this. |
| 23:09.52 | SCM | pbd thx :) |
| 23:09.57 | zedkatuf | If I have allow=g729 in sip.conf does that overrride everything else? |
| 23:10.04 | zedkatuf | (say in extensions.conf) |
| 23:10.10 | SCM | dudes you dont have problems with isdn? |
| 23:10.27 | dudes | SCM - what do you mean problems |
| 23:10.54 | SCM | dudes like zaphfc error messages... |
| 23:11.07 | hugo-v6 | dudes: u use hfc-s based cards for routing isdn calls via asterisk into pstn network? |
| 23:11.26 | dudes | No |
| 23:11.30 | SCM | hugo-v6 i do |
| 23:11.32 | pbd | When we start talking about this stuff, we tend to say- better (more highly compressed) codec=less bandwidth. True. But, that's because the codec controlls the most controllable part of the bandwidth consumed. The overhead, we generally can't do much about. SIP and H.323 are both chatty. MGCP a little less so (but not much). ISDN and H.323 have about the same chattiness (but ISDN does it a little more efficiently thanks to physical c |
| 23:11.45 | hugo-v6 | scm: pls wait im pasting via pastebin in a few secs |
| 23:12.11 | SCM | pbd so youre advice is iax2 |
| 23:12.14 | SCM | your |
| 23:13.14 | pbd | SCM: I think IAX is a fantastic approach- but, it's considered 'proprietary', since it's not accepted into the mainstream as yet- and that's a BIG hurdle. Most telco equipment vendors don't wanna mess with open-source protocols, yet. |
| 23:13.51 | SCM | ic.. |
| 23:14.01 | hugo-v6 | scm: i got those ugly dmesgs when i call into pstn via hfc-s - * - avm b1 |
| 23:14.10 | pbd | SCM: Consider IAX yet another tool in your drawer. A really nice, easy to use tool- but it only fits very specific screws- namely, VoIP devices surrounding Asterisk. |
| 23:14.34 | hugo-v6 | ah the url *sigh* |
| 23:14.35 | hugo-v6 | http://pastebin.com/342632 |
| 23:14.58 | pbd | SCM: If I have to go outside that box (I do, all the time), then I'm more likely to HAVE to use SIP or H.323. Not because I want to- but because the other side of the conversation doesn't talk IAX. |
| 23:15.03 | mejp | anyone running Mac OS X "*" server |
| 23:15.12 | *** join/#asterisk lord_in_etc (n=isidoro7@209.99.227.220) |
| 23:15.30 | mejp | welcome lord |
| 23:15.37 | puzzled | anyone know which 4 asterisk projects were approved for google's summer of code? |
| 23:15.38 | SCM | pbd youre professional in that business? |
| 23:15.51 | pbd | SCM: I am, yes. |
| 23:16.05 | pbd | puzzled- ask File, I think he knows. |
| 23:16.11 | SCM | hugo-v6 not a single clue :( sorry. I wasted a day on AVM, then decided to use only hfc-s |
| 23:16.12 | puzzled | pbd: thanks |
| 23:16.20 | zedkatuf | If I have allow=g729 in sip.conf does that overrride everything else? (say in my extensions.conf file) |
| 23:16.44 | sivana | tzanger: ping |
| 23:16.56 | SCM | zedkatuf disallow=all first.. then it shuold use only g.729 for voip (i think) |
| 23:16.58 | pbd | zed: it controls how that sip trunk (where you have that allow setup, or in default) is allowed to connect. |
| 23:17.41 | pbd | zed- but if that sip trunk/device is turned around in extensions.conf, and goes out say an IAX softphone, that doesn't lock to 729, you'll get transcoding. |
| 23:17.56 | mejp | does anyone know if i can connect * to packet8? |
| 23:17.57 | zedkatuf | ok, & presumably my sip --> pstn provider has to support it too? |
| 23:18.15 | pbd | zed: If you connect to your provider via SIP, then yes. |
| 23:18.34 | zedkatuf | ok, my siphone'll do g729 & yes, it's via my ISP |
| 23:18.38 | zedkatuf | cool, thanks |
| 23:19.12 | SCM | those 10 $ for g.729 - you only pay them once per licence, ritgh? no annual fee or somethign? |
| 23:19.27 | pbd | zed: don't forget, you've got to pay Digium (or somebody) for 729 license *per leg*. There's a long discussion on how to calculate this on voip-info. In your example, you may have to pay for two licenses, not one. |
| 23:19.34 | zedkatuf | per leg |
| 23:19.36 | zedkatuf | hmm |
| 23:19.39 | hugo-v6 | scm: will buy a 2nd one tomorrow to test |
| 23:19.39 | pbd | SCM: Once per license, yes. |
| 23:19.40 | zedkatuf | interesting |
| 23:19.58 | zedkatuf | I could use gsm I suppose instead |
| 23:20.12 | zedkatuf | as a close 2nd in terms of 'bandwidth' |
| 23:20.24 | mejp | pbd...you have to pay for a license? |
| 23:20.30 | zedkatuf | yep |
| 23:20.34 | pbd | zed: If your softphone is on the same lan as *, use Ulaw to the server, then 729 out the door- * will transcode... so watch your CPU. |
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| 23:20.50 | SCM | gotta go. sleeeep. |
| 23:20.59 | SCM | thx everybody |
| 23:21.02 | SCM | and cu |
| 23:21.05 | zedkatuf | pbd: k, or gsm I guess |
| 23:21.05 | pbd | mejp: Yes. Once per license, it's a small fee- but I believe Intel owns the algorythm. |
| 23:21.08 | *** join/#asterisk toddf (n=toddf@ns0.fries.net) |
| 23:21.33 | pbd | zed: gsm<=>729 may consume more CPu and sound odd- you're transcoding between two differenly compressed codecs. |
| 23:21.46 | pbd | I've not personally tried it, but.. YMMV. |
| 23:21.52 | mejp | everyone is getting into 'licensing" :-( |
| 23:22.22 | zedkatuf | pbd....nope I mean ulaw<+> gsm |
| 23:22.23 | opus_ | meanwhile speex is free but nobody will use it |
| 23:22.31 | zedkatuf | ie not use g729 |
| 23:22.39 | pbd | mejp: gsm is free.. as is ulaw/alaw. I knew some of the guys working on those algorythms in the 70s.. they don't come cheap. |
| 23:22.48 | hugo-v6 | scm: i still think there is something terribly wrong here. when i call into pstn via avm b1 (sound and everything is ok) but the hfc-s module which has nothing to do at this time kicks errors like hell |
| 23:22.53 | pbd | zed: oh.. that's free (as in beer). |
| 23:22.55 | SCM | pbd is there an easy way to tell how much trandcoding a CPU can handle at the time? |
| 23:23.11 | zedkatuf | pbd: yes, that's what I want :P |
| 23:23.23 | hugo-v6 | crap. |
| 23:23.23 | pbd | SCM: No really great ways, since it's very dependant upon what else is running, the devices used, et. |
| 23:23.25 | SCM | hugo-v6 theres definetly something wrong... but WHAT? ;) |
| 23:23.30 | SwK | iLBC works ok too |
| 23:23.46 | SCM | ok |
| 23:23.51 | SCM | <- going to bed |
| 23:23.55 | SCM | cu round :) |
| 23:24.02 | puzzled | astmanproxy looks interesting |
| 23:24.06 | pbd | SCM: If you ask Asterisk, it will attempt to show you the current amount of delay to do transcoding between two codecs.. |
| 23:24.52 | pbd | And.. 200ms is your bible. You need less than 200ms round trip between you and the other end of the conversation, or you WILL not be happy. |
| 23:25.00 | Qwell | 200ms? wow |
| 23:25.15 | Qwell | and, jitter is far more important then latency |
| 23:25.19 | pbd | That's round trip, too. |
| 23:25.50 | zedkatuf | pbd: 200mS for gsm u mean |
| 23:25.51 | zedkatuf | ? |
| 23:25.53 | Qwell | if you have 20ms on one packet, and 150ms on another, you'll be far worse off then just having high latency |
| 23:25.54 | pbd | Qwell- that 200ms can be applied both ways.. jitterbuffers aren't too shabby, now.. but it means that, the packet you need NOW has to arrive back to you in that 200ms window. |
| 23:26.30 | pbd | A good reason to HATE ADSL. |
| 23:26.46 | mejp | 200ms is a good slapback delay' |
| 23:27.23 | pbd | I've got a user who's on a satellite linked ADSL line. She loves it- for web surfing. The phone? She's better off with smoke signals. |
| 23:27.49 | SCM | why? |
| 23:27.57 | SCM | (still awake) |
| 23:28.58 | SCM | pbd? why is that with the satellite adsl? |
| 23:29.05 | SCM | just curious |
| 23:29.15 | pbd | Because the satellite adds in 40/60ms on a good day- and radio waves are really poor for consistent packet delivery. For web surfing, delays aren't truly noticeable- each packet can take a little different time, you still see the page in about the same amount of time. But for voice? Nasty. She'll get 80/260/180 (min/max/ave) packets- and all over the place in a 5 minute interval. |
| 23:29.15 | Qwell | SCM: a packet has to travel several thousand miles |
| 23:29.16 | faewko | you mean satellite internet? |
| 23:29.58 | SCM | ic |
| 23:30.08 | Legend | pbd: wtf are you talking about? |
| 23:30.15 | Legend | satellite has 600ms+ of latency |
| 23:30.16 | pbd | Yeah- she's in some goofy place outside Denver, that's 35,000 feet away from her closest CO. High speed internet, for her, is either microwaves or satellites- both are about the same. |
| 23:30.16 | *** join/#asterisk MikeJ[Laptop] (n=ircatjer@d14-69-8-30.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 23:30.23 | mejp | it's time for lasers via satellite |
| 23:30.26 | Legend | if its a decent link, then there is very little jitter |
| 23:31.23 | pbd | Legend: True. But, I've never had any luck getting a 'decent link' to stay that way over any sort of radio connection. |
| 23:31.46 | Legend | i have a two miles wireless link to my house, and voice over it is better than my cell phone |
| 23:32.04 | pbd | mejp- not sure it helps, much.. it'd be faster, so the overall letency goes down.. but you still get some inconsistencies based on weather. |
| 23:32.18 | pbd | Legend: What are you running for that hop? |
| 23:32.33 | Legend | pbd: nothing special, just 802.11b |
| 23:32.37 | Legend | IAX2 w/ gsm |
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| 23:33.08 | pbd | Legend: That makes some sense.. you're probably running at 2mb/s over that 2 mile link. Terrestrial radios are more consistent than sat based radio. |
| 23:33.25 | Legend | its an 11mb link |
| 23:33.34 | pbd | Legend: Pringles cans? :) |
| 23:33.36 | Legend | and yes, i've worked with a number of vsats, and run voice quite well on em |
| 23:33.48 | Legend | pbd: no, its a decent production system |
| 23:33.56 | *** join/#asterisk xlyz (n=xl@213-140-17-96.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 23:33.58 | pbd | Legend: ot |
| 23:34.02 | pbd | legend: ot |
| 23:34.02 | xlyz | hi |
| 23:34.11 | pbd | legend (damned fingers, they're new) |
| 23:34.27 | Legend | running voice over a cheap ass consumer direcpc will suck, but a decent vsat will provide low jitter, and little to no packet loss |
| 23:34.35 | pbd | legend: It's all in the antenna design- and if you're willing to pay good bucks for a good channel and vsat, yes, you can do well.. |
| 23:34.51 | pbd | but a single user in nowhere colorado isn't going to get THAt kind of money shelled out for her. :) |
| 23:36.25 | opus_ | if a Queue timesout, does it set a variable? |
| 23:36.34 | pbd | decent = expensive. Good, Fast, Cheap. Pick any two. |
| 23:36.48 | Qwell | pick up to two |
| 23:37.30 | Legend | if there is decent terrestrial wireless, she might be ok |
| 23:37.35 | Legend | what is available? |
| 23:37.44 | zedkatuf | pbd: back to my newb Q: if I run gsm to outside, will the delay be big, or were u talking abt other codecs/situations? |
| 23:38.02 | pbd | Legend: Unfortunately, she's at the mercy of one of those 'office incubator' buildings- you know, 40 suites and a central office manager. |
| 23:38.19 | mejp | I like fast and cheap |
| 23:38.33 | pbd | mejp: I've got some tin cans and string I can give you now. :) |
| 23:38.45 | zedkatuf | lol |
| 23:38.48 | mejp | LOL... |
| 23:38.59 | pbd | zed: erm.. delay.. comes in all flavors. Can be network, CPU, etc. |
| 23:39.16 | pbd | zed: gsm isn't VERY CPU intensive- but it is compression, and it will take some nibbles. |
| 23:39.20 | zedkatuf | yeah....so gsm no worse/better than anything else really |
| 23:39.41 | pbd | zed: It's better, since it's compressed- and smaller packets=faster transmission time. |
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| 23:39.47 | zedkatuf | pbd: nibbles = S/N poorer? |
| 23:40.00 | pbd | zed: depends on how much CPU there is to bite at. |
| 23:40.25 | *** join/#asterisk blitzrage (n=blitzrag@asterisk/documenteur-extraordinaire/blitzrage) |
| 23:40.37 | zedkatuf | well, 1.7Ghz cpu is prob gonna have a good crack at it I guess |
| 23:40.40 | pbd | S/N is generally (generally) not affected TOO badly by CPU.. unless the CPU is so slammed it's skipping interrupts. Higher compression will lead to crappier voice quality. |
| 23:40.44 | blitzrage | oh thank god I'm back using irssi |
| 23:40.52 | mejp | pbd: tin cans and string? can I get at least 10 voicemail boxes with that? |
| 23:41.06 | pbd | mejp: Only if you send the check in advance. |
| 23:41.06 | zedkatuf | pbd:ok might be an issue for a celeron, but I can SIAS |
| 23:41.16 | mejp | LOL |
| 23:41.18 | *** join/#asterisk paulhuynh (n=paul@pcp02630437pcs.univde01.de.comcast.net) |
| 23:41.29 | mejp | must be some expensive string |
| 23:41.35 | paulhuynh | I need a little help |
| 23:41.43 | paulhuynh | and also have a question |
| 23:41.47 | zedkatuf | :) |
| 23:41.49 | pbd | mejp: Wel.. compared to what you'd find at the grocery store, yes.. but you specified cheap. |
| 23:42.23 | paulhuynh | is asterisk support RFC 3407 |
| 23:42.49 | mejp | pbd: yes i did didn't i. |
| 23:43.33 | pbd | mejp: Now, since you didn't specify good.. that means there's no need for listening to the voicemail after it's been recored, eh? Go shout at the string! |
| 23:43.35 | mejp | signing off .... |
| 23:44.26 | *** part/#asterisk mejp (n=java@69-167-25-1.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 23:44.48 | hugo-v6 | fuqq.... i think im stupid. reviewed my bios settings and saw that pci slot 3 and 6 are sharing. and what sits on that slots? u guess? right. avm card and hfc-s card. will change this now. |
| 23:44.59 | pbd | paul: That doesn't sound familiar to me.. but check voip-info. |
| 23:47.19 | *** join/#asterisk jalsot (n=tamas@abacus.eworldcom.hu) |
| 23:47.42 | pbd | paul: Actually.. looks like it does- although not necessarily well: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2004-February/003205.html |
| 23:48.22 | Ariel_ | paulhuynh, part of that is used in Sip for message. But what do you need from it? |
| 23:48.44 | Hmmhesays | quake 3 has gone gpl |
| 23:48.45 | Hmmhesays | rock |
| 23:49.31 | paulhuynh | Ariel |
| 23:49.37 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, you have time to play wow |
| 23:49.45 | paulhuynh | i was wonder if asterisk will support it |
| 23:50.14 | paulhuynh | My ip300 and Ip501 polycom have the option |
| 23:50.16 | Ariel_ | paulhuynh, it's a message section in protocals like sip/mgcp. Part of it is being used with sip 2.0 |
| 23:50.26 | Hmmhesays | Ariel_, not so much anymore, its just cool that ID did that |
| 23:50.37 | Ariel_ | paulhuynh, I don't think it's going to be implemeted fully |
| 23:50.37 | paulhuynh | so is asterisk support the feature |
| 23:50.38 | Hmmhesays | there is a lot to be learned from the quake engine |
| 23:50.44 | *** join/#asterisk audela (n=audela@82-46-92-246.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 23:50.45 | paulhuynh | oh ok |
| 23:51.16 | Ariel_ | paulhuynh, asterisk supports hint and some info messages that the polycom support. |
| 23:51.23 | hugo-v6 | so changes made. booting |
| 23:51.34 | Ariel_ | But it's limited since sip does not include the complete set. |
| 23:51.53 | puzzled | Ariel_: are you talking about SIMPLE? |
| 23:52.04 | Ariel_ | puzzled, no |
| 23:52.17 | Ariel_ | RFC3407 |
| 23:52.45 | hugo-v6 | SCM: still here? |
| 23:54.19 | puzzled | Ariel_: thanks |
| 23:54.52 | paulhuynh | so should i turn it on ro not |
| 23:54.55 | paulhuynh | or not |
| 23:55.39 | clyrrad | Anyone had this problem? I am using SetMusicOnHOld(default) right before Dial, yet when you put the call on hold you never hear the music.... You just hear some backround noise. But the music does work I have the |m after dial and can here the music during the extension transfer... |
| 23:55.45 | Ariel_ | paulhuynh, you can turn it on just will not do any good with asterisk. Polycom has there own pbx that supports it. |
| 23:56.59 | paulhuynh | oh ok |
| 23:57.01 | hugo-v6 | well that would be to easy.... dont work. sigh. |
| 23:57.01 | paulhuynh | ariel |
| 23:57.14 | paulhuynh | can i PM you |
| 23:57.20 | paulhuynh | for a question |
| 23:57.24 | Ariel_ | paulhuynh, yes |
| 23:57.49 | Ariel_ | clyrrad, what phones are you using? and what dose the cli say when you put it on hold? |
| 23:58.47 | clyrrad | Using hardware phones, and the CLI sais this: http://pastebin.ca/20685 |
| 23:59.55 | Ariel_ | clyrrad, what phones are they and do you have canreinvite=no |
