| 00:00.08 | MikeJ[Laptop] | scratch that, I misunderstood what that patch did |
| 00:02.22 | MikeJ[Laptop] | sorry :( |
| 00:02.48 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it does auth based on domain, but not user matching... |
| 00:03.03 | MikeJ[Laptop] | as in, it's not matching user@domain |
| 00:03.52 | micheles | anyone online with real life experience in fax detection problems on an x100p clone ? |
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| 00:17.13 | pygrammer | hey, can anyone advise me on why I might be getting background hiss/hum with a grandstream gxp-2000? perhaps bad electrical connection/interference? |
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| 00:19.41 | AJ-Mpls | Can Anyone suggest an easy to install Billing program for Asterisk? |
| 00:22.06 | AJ-Mpls | Anyone Alive? :P |
| 00:22.22 | SarahEmm | yeppers. |
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| 00:23.26 | SarahEmm | umm, lets talk here instead of msging me pls |
| 00:23.56 | tombone | Question -- is there any significance to: |
| 00:23.57 | tombone | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.57 | tombone | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.08 | tombone | the bit about stopped sounds... |
| 00:24.25 | tombone | Once it says that I'm no longer to get any sound on my console speakers, but before I am |
| 00:24.39 | tombone | ?? |
| 00:24.44 | dudes | Anyone know howto make a tiff file that'd be used for faxing |
| 00:25.38 | coppice | dudes: ghostscript is the usual suspect |
| 00:26.27 | tombone | I'll thank someone profusely if they can answer my question |
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| 00:32.24 | JasonGT | Hello, can anyone help me with A@H 1.5 and Handytone 488 with F/W 1.0.2.16 configuration? I have got the fxs port working with * but not the fxo. I have searched for some config examples but have not came across annything yet. Thanks |
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| 00:40.34 | davidded | hello |
| 00:41.41 | davidded | may i ask somebody a question on zapata (isdn zaphfc) number matching? |
| 00:42.01 | SarahEmm | don't ask to ask |
| 00:42.03 | SarahEmm | just ask :) |
| 00:42.35 | davidded | ok -- when i match an extension using a variable pattern, it always takes some time until the number is recognized and dialed. |
| 00:43.20 | davidded | this is somewhat annoying if i want a straight pass-through to my PSTN |
| 00:44.39 | davidded | is it possible to accomplish a passtrough upon dialing a starting digit? i already tried Dial(Zap/g1/), but that won't work. |
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| 00:48.01 | davidded | hi |
| 00:49.44 | SarahEmm | a passthrough? what? |
| 00:50.31 | davidded | well, if you have an external s0 bus of your PSTN and an internal s0 bus on an isdn-card in NT mode |
| 00:51.06 | davidded | then, there is the case that you just want to dial-out to the pstn. |
| 00:51.52 | davidded | i'm from germany, there most numbers have variable length. thus, the pstn decides on its own when a number is complete and when not. |
| 00:52.41 | davidded | asterisk cannot do this -- thus, i'd like to connect my phone directly to the pstn, passing through each dialed digit on its own. |
| 00:53.00 | SarahEmm | ahhh okay |
| 00:53.06 | SarahEmm | i'm not sure.. everything is 10 digits here |
| 00:53.44 | davidded | hmm. here, there are almost all possible combinations of lengths and starting digits |
| 00:54.21 | SarahEmm | yikes |
| 00:54.25 | SarahEmm | that sounds complex :) |
| 00:54.26 | davidded | currently, asterisk just waits for a long pause after dialing. this is annoying. i'd at least like to set the timeout value manually. |
| 00:54.37 | SarahEmm | err, why not just hit dial when you're done dialling? |
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| 00:55.01 | davidded | that'd be a great idea. how could i accomplish that on an isdn phone? |
| 00:55.12 | SarahEmm | ooh. sorry. |
| 00:55.30 | tombone | For simply establishing a connection with a phone on PSTN, what extensions commands would I need? |
| 00:55.38 | tombone | Just Dial, and Hangup? |
| 00:55.40 | davidded | i already tried adding a fixed pattern at the end |
| 00:55.56 | tombone | A connection between phone on PSTN and Asterisk console |
| 00:56.14 | SarahEmm | yep tombone |
| 00:56.16 | SarahEmm | just dial |
| 00:57.20 | tombone | It almost seems like one the phone picks up, the console transfers all sound output to the phone, with nothing to the console |
| 00:57.58 | SarahEmm | errr |
| 00:58.01 | SarahEmm | what exactly are you doing? |
| 00:58.09 | SarahEmm | where are you initiating the dial from? |
| 00:58.33 | tombone | Just wanting to establish a connection between my asterisk console and someone elses phone... like Skype out |
| 00:58.49 | shido6 | Zzz |
| 00:59.27 | tombone | from my asterisk console |
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| 01:01.19 | SarahEmm | so from the * console you're using 'dial x' and the 'x' in your extensions.conf executes a Dial()? |
| 01:01.28 | tombone | yup |
| 01:01.46 | tombone | and hopefully there will be 2-way communications between the console and the phone... |
| 01:01.59 | tombone | if I can't get this working, then there's no sense in doing anything else |
| 01:02.02 | iaxy | Anyone know sip respopnse codes off the top? |
| 01:02.15 | iaxy | Like 606, what exactly does it mean? |
| 01:02.17 | heath__ | anyone got a test tiff for faxing that you know is the right format? |
| 01:02.31 | heath__ | for faxing via txfax that is? |
| 01:02.51 | SarahEmm | iaxy: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_configuration_guide_chapter09186a00800eadfa.html |
| 01:02.54 | SarahEmm | Use The Google :) |
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| 01:04.13 | websae | how's everyone doing? |
| 01:05.18 | iaxy | hmmmm.... Asterisk allready told me that.... I just didn't listen...:-) |
| 01:05.39 | websae | anyone here using SIP? |
| 01:05.49 | websae | i am having some issues, and i can't figure out why... |
| 01:06.03 | websae | regarding my phone not be connected anymore |
| 01:06.23 | iaxy | websae: many people are.... |
| 01:07.30 | davidded | hmm. sarah, is there any more advanced way on pattern matching than the dot (.) ? i'd need something like regular expressions: i want to match _9[^#]{2-14}# |
| 01:07.44 | SarahEmm | i'm not sure offhand |
| 01:07.51 | SarahEmm | i'm using very simple ones so far :) |
| 01:08.08 | SarahEmm | i just need to be able to call 13 digit local numbers, 8xx numbers, and x11 numbers :) |
| 01:08.44 | davidded | ok - so you're really having fixed length numbers? |
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| 01:09.33 | SarahEmm | me? yeah |
| 01:09.47 | SarahEmm | it's either 3 digits (and i only have it configured to use 711, no other ones) or 13 |
| 01:10.07 | InfraRed | iaxy: also check the SIP rfc |
| 01:10.10 | InfraRed | all the ifno is there |
| 01:10.21 | davidded | hmm. you're lucky ;) |
| 01:13.12 | iaxy | I thought aresponse code of 606 woul;d yield something other than, "Something is not acceptable..." |
| 01:13.55 | SarahEmm | welcome to SIP ;) |
| 01:15.39 | X-Rob | why the fuck is there _Always_ a million people trying to log into my gateway? |
| 01:15.55 | X-Rob | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.55 | X-Rob | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:17.37 | SarahEmm | yeah |
| 01:17.46 | SarahEmm | i get that too |
| 01:17.51 | SarahEmm | random usernames and passwords via ssh |
| 01:17.53 | SarahEmm | lots and lots and lots |
| 01:17.56 | SarahEmm | some worm or something |
| 01:19.56 | X-Rob | I think it's an IRC thing |
| 01:20.03 | X-Rob | I've got a dozen other machines on the net that don't get that. |
| 01:20.32 | SarahEmm | err |
| 01:20.44 | X-Rob | only machines that appear on IRC tend to get this shit. |
| 01:20.46 | SarahEmm | i get plenty of those on hosts where i never irc |
| 01:20.51 | SarahEmm | dunno tho *shrug* |
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| 01:21.09 | tombone | Sarah, by the way, after initiating the dial, I hear the ringback... if I hangup from the console before the PSTN phone picks up, then I can continue to get sound output from the console... i.e. on subsequent attempts, but as soon as the PSTN phone picks up, then something happens, and I get no sound output to the speaker |
| 01:22.15 | SarahEmm | hrm |
| 01:22.18 | SarahEmm | i don't know, sowwy |
| 01:22.30 | SarahEmm | i don't use * for voice stuff yet really |
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| 01:31.06 | davidded | sarah, btw, do you know anything about choppy audio on hfc isdn cards? |
| 01:31.50 | X-Rob | heh |
| 01:32.03 | X-Rob | SarahEmm, it's amazing how many people don't actually read what you type, isn't it. |
| 01:32.28 | davidded | oops, did i miss something? |
| 01:32.35 | X-Rob | <SarahEmm> i don't use * for voice stuff yet really |
| 01:33.12 | SarahEmm | ... |
| 01:33.14 | davidded | but for what would one use it then? |
| 01:33.17 | SarahEmm | i don't use * for voice |
| 01:33.19 | SarahEmm | i use * for TTY |
| 01:33.27 | SarahEmm | i'm *likely* not the person to ask about anything audio-related |
| 01:33.36 | davidded | ok. i c - sorry |
| 01:33.40 | SarahEmm | it might be worth a try, but ask the channel, not me :) i'm not likely to know anything about it :) |
| 01:33.43 | X-Rob | SarahEmm - btw, you heard about openpbx yet? |
| 01:33.44 | SarahEmm | * in general sure, just not audio |
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| 01:34.09 | X-Rob | openpbx.org I should say. |
| 01:34.10 | tombone | davided, maybe you can help me... |
| 01:34.22 | davidded | so, does *anybody* know something about audio issues with hfc cards? |
| 01:34.41 | SarahEmm | nope x-rob |
| 01:34.43 | X-Rob | I always think 'hfc' is 'hybrid fibre coax', which I'm sure is incorrect. |
| 01:34.58 | SarahEmm | all openpbx.org says is 'coming soon' |
| 01:34.58 | SarahEmm | ? |
| 01:34.59 | X-Rob | SarahEmm - a recent fork of asterisk by bkw_, anthm, moc, and others. |
| 01:35.05 | X-Rob | #openpbx |
| 01:35.05 | SarahEmm | ahh |
| 01:35.07 | SarahEmm | why forked? |
| 01:35.19 | X-Rob | Sick of waiting on mantis, mainly. |
| 01:35.25 | X-Rob | there's a minor rant on the front page of the wiki link |
| 01:35.33 | X-Rob | and the dual licencing |
| 01:35.36 | X-Rob | which _I_ don't like. |
| 01:35.53 | SarahEmm | ahh |
| 01:36.30 | X-Rob | Are all of your TTY patches in * yet, or are they still rotting away in digium.com's mantis? |
| 01:37.07 | SarahEmm | they're in * |
| 01:37.12 | X-Rob | funky |
| 01:37.14 | SarahEmm | TTY works nicely on * now :) |
| 01:37.20 | SarahEmm | there are still a few things i'd like |
| 01:37.32 | SarahEmm | but the base functionality has all been in and working in HEAD for a couple months now :) |
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| 01:40.07 | dos000 | too many forks these days |
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| 01:41.32 | X-Rob | dos000 - openpbx is the only popular one with some significantly clued developers behind it |
| 01:42.56 | SplasPood | forkerific |
| 01:42.58 | blitzrage | evening |
| 01:43.11 | SarahEmm | hihi blitzrage/ |
| 01:43.22 | blitzrage | SarahEmm: hey oh |
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| 01:50.32 | tombone | Anyone have a clue what this means: WARNING[6835]: chan_alsa.c:751 alsa_indicate: Don't know how to display condition 14 on ALSA/default? |
| 01:51.16 | tombone | Anyone? |
| 01:51.50 | davidded | sounds strange. |
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| 01:52.25 | davidded | maybe * tries to signal the received call and failing to do so it just ceases sending data to the sound card. |
| 01:52.26 | X-Rob | nope |
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| 01:54.01 | davidded | i solved my choppy sound problems by recompiling the kernel with apic support enabled (and a few other things - don't know what actually helped). |
| 01:54.07 | davidded | i have to leave now. bye |
| 01:56.18 | Darwin35 | ok we are going to move asterisk to doss |
| 01:56.34 | SarahEmm | doss? |
| 01:56.38 | Darwin35 | DOS |
| 01:56.41 | Darwin35 | sorry |
| 01:56.44 | SarahEmm | ?? |
| 01:56.57 | X-Rob | wtf? |
| 01:57.12 | Darwin35 | yes moving from unix to DRDOS. |
| 01:57.14 | X-Rob | DOS as in MS-DOS? |
| 01:57.18 | X-Rob | *BAhahahahahahahha* |
| 01:57.23 | SarahEmm | lol.. oookay Darwin35 |
| 01:57.33 | Darwin35 | watch |
| 01:57.42 | Darwin35 | lol |
| 01:57.45 | JunK-Y | Darwin35: mouhaah ur funny. :) |
| 01:57.50 | Darwin35 | that would be a undertaking |
| 01:57.59 | X-Rob | it would be impossible |
| 01:58.15 | X-Rob | you'd need to write some sort of multi threaded kernel to wrap around it |
| 01:58.24 | X-Rob | and then something to handle devices, and timing sources |
| 01:58.32 | X-Rob | and, uh, look out, you're running it on linux again! |
| 01:58.39 | Darwin35 | heheh |
| 01:58.52 | Darwin35 | how dare you say the L word |
| 02:00.08 | X-Rob | hurm. replaceall -R 'linux' 'DR-DOS' /usr/src/linux |
| 02:00.12 | X-Rob | There ya go! |
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| 02:00.32 | wunderkin | leet |
| 02:00.34 | Darwin35 | lol |
| 02:00.54 | InfraRed | asterisk runs better on windows |
| 02:01.09 | Darwin35 | bullshit |
| 02:01.19 | Darwin35 | nothing runs better on windows |
| 02:01.28 | X-Rob | ASterisk runs MUCH better on windows |
| 02:01.30 | X-Rob | yeah |
| 02:01.31 | InfraRed | would i lie to you ? O:) |
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| 02:01.45 | X-Rob | yeah. much better on windows. |
| 02:01.53 | InfraRed | WORD.EXE RUNS BETTER ON WINDOWS |
| 02:02.06 | Darwin35 | Freebsd the stong better more stable os |
| 02:02.54 | InfraRed | i am running * on fbsd :) |
| 02:03.02 | Darwin35 | Linux is a os on estragin shots |
| 02:03.04 | X-Rob | InfraRed - you have a /dev |
| 02:03.10 | X-Rob | Windows does not. |
| 02:03.18 | X-Rob | therefore, QED, windows is teh suxx0r. |
| 02:03.20 | InfraRed | windows rocks |
| 02:03.43 | InfraRed | everything runs better ioon windows |
| 02:03.48 | InfraRed | including oracle10g |
| 02:03.53 | Darwin35 | windows is a virus running on 99.9999 % of the hardware due to shitty coding |
| 02:04.23 | InfraRed | high availablity virus |
| 02:04.28 | InfraRed | that;s quiet an achievement |
| 02:04.28 | X-Rob | Does 10g still have raw device support, or have they given up on that now? |
| 02:04.33 | Darwin35 | costly virus |
| 02:04.44 | X-Rob | ..if anyone knows about oracle.. |
| 02:04.56 | Darwin35 | 200 for a single user license of xp |
| 02:05.00 | Darwin35 | pro |
| 02:05.11 | InfraRed | Darwin35: you got ripped off |
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| 02:05.55 | InfraRed | well, that's the price i can buy it for, but i only buy branded machines now and they come with licnese |
| 02:06.10 | InfraRed | £300 for a full machine including os license |
| 02:06.13 | InfraRed | mad but true |
| 02:06.29 | konfuzed | 300 canadian? |
| 02:06.46 | InfraRed | GBP |
| 02:06.54 | InfraRed | pounds sterling |
| 02:07.19 | InfraRed | and that includes 3 years onsite warranty too |
| 02:07.21 | Darwin35 | EUro |
| 02:07.28 | konfuzed | 400 cdn will get MAD 64 - 512 - 40 gig all included |
| 02:07.34 | Darwin35 | still over priced |
| 02:07.37 | konfuzed | s/MAD/AMD/g |
| 02:07.39 | konfuzed | hahaha |
| 02:07.45 | Darwin35 | MS is over priced |
| 02:07.56 | InfraRed | Darwin35: go back to sleep |
| 02:07.57 | Darwin35 | AMD the wave of the futuer |
| 02:08.04 | InfraRed | MS bashing is so 1999 |
| 02:08.19 | Qwell | I could only imagine the prices Dell could do if they used AMD... |
| 02:08.24 | InfraRed | google bashing is the new black |
| 02:08.34 | X-Rob | yeah. google sucks. |
| 02:08.40 | Darwin35 | google my balls |
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| 02:08.49 | Darwin35 | jeeve my nuts |
| 02:09.00 | InfraRed | lol |
| 02:10.00 | heath__ | anyone got a fax machine handy that i can send a fax to to test? |
| 02:10.03 | InfraRed | my termination provider now allows me to set my CLID |
| 02:10.42 | Darwin35 | Ste(CallerID(name)=) |
| 02:10.50 | Darwin35 | have fun |
| 02:11.06 | InfraRed | Darwin35: i am talking on PSTN |
| 02:11.06 | Darwin35 | replace name with number for the 2nd line |
| 02:11.07 | X-Rob | heath__ - +61-7-4972-2482 |
| 02:11.26 | heath__ | uhh, X-Rob, where's that at? |
| 02:11.31 | X-Rob | Australia 8) |
| 02:11.40 | X-Rob | InfraRed - it's hylafax. |
| 02:11.41 | heath__ | ok, will send... |
| 02:11.46 | InfraRed | bullox |
| 02:11.47 | InfraRed | :) |
| 02:12.03 | X-Rob | paper faxes are so 1980s! |
| 02:12.05 | InfraRed | 0.9p termination |
| 02:12.08 | file[laptop] | d:) |
| 02:12.26 | X-Rob | InfraRed - where in the uk are you? |
| 02:12.31 | Darwin35 | thats why we do fax to pdf to email |
| 02:12.33 | InfraRed | scotland |
| 02:12.36 | X-Rob | ah |
| 02:12.48 | X-Rob | My sister's a fair way away then - she's in oxford. |
| 02:12.51 | X-Rob | what part of scotland? |
| 02:12.58 | Darwin35 | yes scottland is still 400 years behind |
| 02:13.02 | InfraRed | edinburgh |
| 02:13.11 | Darwin35 | The HIghlands are only 300 |
| 02:13.23 | InfraRed | behind what ? |
| 02:13.25 | InfraRed | canada? |
| 02:13.41 | Dr_Ray | highlands are 300 years behind scottland |
| 02:13.56 | heath__ | X-Rob: gimme some good news homie |
| 02:14.16 | X-Rob | nothing receive |
| 02:14.17 | X-Rob | d |
| 02:14.23 | InfraRed | -s |
| 02:15.15 | InfraRed | i think it's a good idea for me to go to bed |
| 02:15.19 | InfraRed | 3.15am :/ |
| 02:15.40 | Darwin35 | bed time here work at 6 |
| 02:15.44 | Darwin35 | night |
| 02:15.49 | heath__ | X-Rob: still nothin? |
| 02:16.27 | dudes | Doe the call come through? |
| 02:16.30 | X-Rob | nope |
| 02:16.44 | heath__ | i bet it is the provider |
| 02:16.46 | X-Rob | it's answering |
| 02:16.47 | X-Rob | but |
| 02:16.50 | X-Rob | it's not getting a handshake |
| 02:16.53 | dudes | you are getting the call |
| 02:16.57 | X-Rob | Oct 3 11:24:56 wpm4l-gw FaxGetty[2837]: ANSWER: Ring detected without successful handshake |
| 02:16.57 | X-Rob | Oct 3 11:25:07 wpm4l-gw FaxGetty[2837]: MODEM ZYXEL U90E/1.13 |
| 02:16.57 | dudes | oh ok |
| 02:17.03 | heath__ | hmm, strange |
| 02:17.20 | dudes | we can call international ... hehe |
| 02:17.42 | Hmmhesays | any guitarist in here right now? |
| 02:18.00 | dudes | It could have something to do with the signalling? |
| 02:18.05 | Hmmhesays | oops wrong channel |
| 02:18.06 | Hmmhesays | lol |
| 02:18.16 | Qwell | Hmmhesays: I could pretend :p |
| 02:18.20 | X-Rob | Hmmhesays - my neighbour is a professional guitarist, if that helps 8) |
| 02:18.53 | Hmmhesays | haha I asked in the wrong channel anyway |
| 02:18.57 | Hmmhesays | iw as looking for some help on this solo |
| 02:19.18 | X-Rob | wiggle the fingers on your left hand more. |
| 02:19.38 | Hmmhesays | the tab is wrong, and my ear can't pick it out |
| 02:19.38 | twisted | Hmmhesays, if you're getting help, it wouldn't really be a solo, now would it? :P |
| 02:19.45 | Hmmhesays | har har funny |
| 02:20.20 | dudes | Anyone with a fax machine in the states that could aid us in testing |
| 02:21.12 | wrzf1 | Hey guys Question where can one find Spanish IVR for ASTCC |
| 02:21.20 | X-Rob | wrzf1 - which spanish? |
| 02:21.26 | X-Rob | oh |
| 02:21.28 | X-Rob | don't mind me |
| 02:21.34 | X-Rob | I didn't see 'IVR for ASTCC' |
| 02:21.36 | X-Rob | don't know. |
| 02:21.38 | Hmmhesays | wiggle my fingers on my left hand more.... genuis |
| 02:21.43 | Hmmhesays | *genius even |
| 02:21.47 | X-Rob | *grin* |
| 02:21.50 | wrzf1 | hahaha |
| 02:21.52 | wrzf1 | its ok |
| 02:21.53 | X-Rob | Hmmhesays - seen pictures of my new baby?? |
| 02:21.56 | Hmmhesays | nope |
| 02:22.08 | wrzf1 | Congrads X-Rob |
| 02:22.10 | Hmmhesays | i'm getting a new baby soon, i will post pictures |
| 02:22.11 | X-Rob | http://aussievoip.com.au/jade/day1-franks/DSCF0020.JPG |
| 02:22.14 | Hmmhesays | its just not a human |
| 02:22.20 | X-Rob | That' |
| 02:22.28 | X-Rob | That's Mum (Tharyn - pronounced Tarren) and Jade. |
| 02:22.44 | wrzf1 | Now thats a Cute Baby |
| 02:22.48 | Hmmhesays | awesome congrats X-Rob |
| 02:22.48 | wrzf1 | Congrads again |
| 02:22.57 | wrzf1 | Nothing like em |
| 02:23.09 | X-Rob | babies r0xx0r. |
| 02:23.21 | X-Rob | ..but then they grow up, and they're not _quite_ so r0xx0r-ish. |
| 02:23.23 | Hmmhesays | i no time you'll be batting the boys away with a golf club |
| 02:23.24 | wrzf1 | I had my kids this weekend John - 11 my daughter (Harley - 13) |
| 02:23.42 | wrzf1 | would give my left leg and my asterisk box for them to be that young again |
| 02:23.52 | X-Rob | wrzf1 - my other two boys (previous relationship_ are up here. Matthew (15) and Greg(13). Mat wasn't that interested, but greg was all over her. |
| 02:23.57 | Hmmhesays | what if you got into an ass kicking contest? |
| 02:24.03 | wrzf1 | nice |
| 02:24.19 | SarahEmm | congrats X-Rob :) |
| 02:24.34 | Dr_Ray | I like being in my 30's |
| 02:24.48 | Dr_Ray | I don't think I'd ever want to be a kid again |
| 02:24.53 | X-Rob | Ooh thanks sarahemm 8) |
| 02:24.53 | *** join/#asterisk KaBewM (n=kabewm@66-215-7-106.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com) |
| 02:25.08 | X-Rob | I really find it amazing watching their brains develop |
| 02:25.22 | SarahEmm | teens Sucked |
| 02:25.23 | SarahEmm | 20s are good :) |
| 02:25.27 | Dr_Ray | it's the greatest computer ever |
| 02:25.38 | denon | SarahEmm: I thought you were in your 20s when I asked you 10 years ago .. |
| 02:25.39 | denon | still in em? |
| 02:25.50 | X-Rob | Oh, and my T-shirt says 'I was speeding coz bikes fall over if you go too slow' |
| 02:25.51 | SarahEmm | uhhh |
| 02:25.53 | wrzf1 | I am 40 and just got home from IRAQ about 2 months ago I am happy at this age |
| 02:25.55 | SarahEmm | 10 years ago? huh? |
| 02:26.00 | Hmmhesays | i'm having a good time in my 20's |
| 02:26.08 | denon | kidding :) |
| 02:26.14 | X-Rob | I'm, uh, 34. |
| 02:26.22 | Qwell | I think anyhow |
| 02:26.33 | Qwell | 1982 == 23, right? heh |
| 02:26.33 | Dr_Ray | I'm 36, I'm glad the hormones have tapered off for me |
| 02:26.34 | wrzf1 | Dont think to hard Qwell |
| 02:26.37 | [hC] | < 24 |
| 02:26.39 | Hmmhesays | yeah qwell |
| 02:26.45 | wrzf1 | AMEN DR.RAY |
| 02:26.47 | Qwell | then yeah, /me too :p |
| 02:26.54 | Hmmhesays | nothing wrong with having hormons |
| 02:27.01 | Hmmhesays | i kind of like playing the game |
| 02:27.04 | X-Rob | but there is a problem with mormons. |
| 02:27.13 | Hmmhesays | horny mormons? |
| 02:27.19 | wrzf1 | DAMN |
| 02:27.19 | Qwell | X-Rob: bigger problem with mormons with hormones |
| 02:27.20 | X-Rob | Orgazmo! |
| 02:27.20 | Dr_Ray | I like things a little quieter |
| 02:27.25 | wrzf1 | Horney Mormons |
| 02:27.28 | wrzf1 | hahahahaha |
| 02:27.35 | X-Rob | Hehehehehe |
| 02:27.43 | wrzf1 | I was out in Salt Lake One time and ran into some of them |
| 02:27.54 | Hmmhesays | did you ask them if they wanted any DVDA? |
| 02:28.05 | wrzf1 | I must have quized them for hours just because I was bored |
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| 02:28.07 | Dr_Ray | I was in Venice, Italy and bumped into a crew of Mormons |
| 02:28.22 | X-Rob | It's too hot and too rural for mormons here. |
| 02:28.22 | *** join/#asterisk logicalonline (n=Ken@209.242.52.25) |
| 02:28.29 | X-Rob | so we're pretty lucky |
| 02:28.38 | X-Rob | we used to get them in sydney all the time |
| 02:28.39 | Hmmhesays | ok i've been listening to this solol at 75% speed for half an hour now |
| 02:28.43 | wrzf1 | I know more now about the Book of the Morman than I wanted to know |
| 02:28.44 | X-Rob | (== 3 or 4 times a year) |
| 02:29.17 | Dr_Ray | Mormons are not that bad, I worked for one for a bit. They strike me as a bit gullible |
| 02:29.20 | X-Rob | Anyone here read schlockmercenary.com and not aware that the cartoonist is a mormon? |
| 02:29.37 | wrzf1 | If you ever been to Utal or Idaho some people put on thier doors if your morman dont let me see you one the property |
| 02:29.54 | X-Rob | (and if anyone here is into sci-fi and DOESN'T read schlockmercenary, they're missing out on a good web comic) |
| 02:30.29 | websae2k | how do you reload conifgs from the CLI? |
| 02:30.31 | websae2k | anyone.. |
| 02:30.31 | wrzf1 | Mormans still dont help me find Spanish IVR for ASTCC |
| 02:30.45 | X-Rob | websae2k - which config? |
| 02:30.54 | websae2k | sip.conf |
| 02:30.57 | Dr_Ray | sip reload |
| 02:30.58 | X-Rob | 'sip reload' |
| 02:31.00 | Dr_Ray | er |
| 02:31.01 | X-Rob | doh |
| 02:31.03 | X-Rob | beat me too it |
| 02:31.03 | Qwell | Somebody wanna buy this stuff for me? https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/WishDetail.asp?position=HISTORY&ID=1695467 |
| 02:31.33 | X-Rob | Qwell - it's asking me to log in. |
| 02:31.40 | Qwell | lame |
| 02:31.44 | wrzf1 | Qwell Comes up in a login screen |
| 02:31.47 | Dr_Ray | what did you want? |
| 02:31.59 | Qwell | silly newegg |
| 02:32.11 | denon | its a computer place with the name "Egg" in the title .. |
| 02:32.13 | denon | what do you expect |
| 02:32.35 | X-Rob | wasn't there another place with 'egg' in the name, or as a logo, a couple of years ago? |
| 02:32.36 | X-Rob | or was thtat it? |
| 02:32.39 | Qwell | egghead |
| 02:32.44 | wrzf1 | EGGHEAD |
| 02:32.50 | wrzf1 | EGGHEAD SOFTWARE |
| 02:32.50 | Qwell | egghead was the shit |
| 02:32.55 | Qwell | I think amazon bought them, or something |
| 02:33.03 | Dr_Ray | egghead was cool 10 years ago |
| 02:33.16 | wrzf1 | yep they were one of my Health Care Package was sold on EggHEad |
| 02:33.26 | X-Rob | egghead, yeah |
| 02:33.37 | X-Rob | they were the stuff about, yeah, 10 years ago |
| 02:33.57 | X-Rob | all the yanks were saying how funky they were and they could get great deals on Pentiums with 'em. |
| 02:33.58 | Dr_Ray | their retail stores were amazing |
| 02:34.00 | wrzf1 | I wrote a program for a Third Party Administrator in VB and it was being sold on EGGHEAD for about 8 months |
| 02:34.07 | JasonGT | Hello can anyone help me with A@H 1.5 and Handytone 488 with F/W 1.0.2.16 configuration? I have got the fxs port working with * but not the fxo. Any incoming calls never make it and outgoing is kind of working, you dial the number then it gives you a dial tone and you have to dial it again and it works. Thanks |
| 02:34.35 | wrzf1 | oops |
| 02:34.45 | Qwell | wtf is google doing? |
| 02:34.57 | Qwell | They put the "did you mean ...?" in the results |
| 02:35.00 | wrzf1 | is he logged in yet |
| 02:35.08 | Dr_Ray | hehehe |
| 02:35.11 | wrzf1 | (-: |
| 02:35.15 | X-Rob | Qwell - eh? |
| 02:35.24 | Qwell | X-Rob: google for egghead |
| 02:35.32 | wrzf1 | google me this google me that |
| 02:35.40 | Qwell | look at the stuff after the 3rd (major) link |
| 02:35.46 | X-Rob | didn't WTF. |
| 02:35.49 | X-Rob | Shit yeah |
| 02:35.52 | X-Rob | what the hell is that |
| 02:36.04 | X-Rob | I've got 5 links then a line |
| 02:36.08 | Qwell | yeah... |
| 02:36.08 | logicalonline | Hey everyone! I'm having a prob with agents logging in from sayson 480is. They login as agent using agentcallbacklogin and the prob is if the phones for whatever reason loose registration or get disconnected, asterisk gets a queue call, dials the agent and says "oh sip/blah isn't connected" and sends it to the agents voicemail instead of going to the next agent or if no agents are avail continue in dialplan as per queues.conf timeout settings. Any th |
| 02:36.12 | X-Rob | for 'newegg' |
| 02:36.18 | Qwell | then 3 more, then back to the normal results |
| 02:36.20 | X-Rob | ..then the results for 'newegg' |
| 02:36.23 | Qwell | weird |
| 02:36.25 | Dr_Ray | I wonder if newegg pays them for that |
| 02:36.44 | wrzf1 | Do you guys remember what a webswitch 100 is from ericson |
| 02:36.46 | Qwell | got me... |
| 02:36.50 | wrzf1 | H323 |
| 02:37.04 | X-Rob | logicalonline - that's going to be a hard problem to solve. |
| 02:37.08 | *** join/#asterisk ApEtc (i=apetc@ip-66-218-241-107.cableaz.com) |
| 02:37.12 | X-Rob | make the phones re-register often is goign to tbe the only easy solution |
| 02:38.43 | X-Rob | Hurm. |
| 02:41.27 | logicalonline | yeah thats the "easy" solution but doesnt fix the problem :-) i tried setting the registration to happen often but we still have the issue |
| 02:42.01 | logicalonline | there really should be something in asterisk that checks before it places that call to say "oh are they registered? no, okay i wont send the call there" |
| 02:42.26 | Qwell | http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/WishShareShow.asp?ID=1695467 There we go... |
| 02:42.32 | pdugas | Got an SPA3000 handling the FXO for the house. It seems to be delivering "ghost" calls occasionally. Rings once then is gone. Any ideas? |
| 02:42.59 | X-Rob | logicalonline - use an agi to dial. |
| 02:43.27 | X-Rob | greedy bugger - I can see that dual core A64!! |
| 02:50.03 | *** part/#asterisk paravoid (i=paravoid@147.102.26.135) |
| 02:50.11 | *** part/#asterisk logicalonline (n=Ken@209.242.52.25) |
| 02:54.34 | wrzf1 | hello |
| 02:54.42 | SarahEmm | hihi |
| 02:55.10 | wrzf1 | damn |
| 02:55.18 | X-Rob | websae2k - so what is your problem? |
| 02:55.19 | wrzf1 | need to turn that off |
| 02:57.13 | SarahEmm | can you talk here instead of msging me websae2k? |
| 02:57.22 | SarahEmm | i need to change my nick to SarahEmmPlsDontMsgMe or something.... |
| 02:57.53 | Dr_Ray | you should not msg anyone in here |
| 02:58.00 | X-Rob | he's doing the same to me. |
| 02:58.12 | Dr_Ray | unless he's trying to get in your pants |
| 03:00.19 | X-Rob | <websae2k> well i have a peer to peer connection to my VoIP provider |
| 03:00.19 | X-Rob | <websae2k> and he forwards the dids to my server |
| 03:00.19 | X-Rob | <websae2k> and then the appropriate sip device should ring that is registered with the did |
| 03:00.19 | X-Rob | <websae2k> and it's not presently working |
| 03:00.26 | MikeJ[Laptop] | don't touch file, he's young and innocent |
| 03:00.39 | Dr_Ray | I wonder if putting a bounty up for the fxs ports on the wrt54g's would help |
| 03:00.49 | X-Rob | well, you need to find out what's wrong first. Are you receiving the calls? 'sip debug' will show you if the provider is actually sending the calls to you. |
| 03:01.10 | X-Rob | there isn't a fxs port on a WRT54G |
| 03:01.26 | X-Rob | there's a w[something] that has a voip port, but it's not a wrt54 |
| 03:01.38 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yeah |
| 03:01.56 | twisted | file?!!? INNOCENT?!?!? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA |
| 03:02.03 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :P |
| 03:02.15 | twisted | *gasp* |
| 03:02.18 | twisted | BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 03:02.23 | twisted | *choke*death* |
| 03:02.30 | file[laptop] | woot! I killed twisted |
| 03:02.33 | X-Rob | ooh |
| 03:02.37 | X-Rob | new PA1688 firmware |
| 03:02.39 | X-Rob | anyone want it? |
| 03:02.40 | MikeJ[Laptop] | wrt54gp2 |
| 03:02.58 | MikeJ[Laptop] | file, it's not nice to kill |
| 03:02.59 | file[laptop] | X-Rob: no, but I'll take a PA1688 based ATA or Phone! |
| 03:03.04 | file[laptop] | MikeJ[Laptop]: :( |
| 03:03.12 | MikeJ[Laptop] | sorry, but it's not |
| 03:03.22 | X-Rob | file[laptop] - they're cost about as much as a used tissue, ffs. Go buy one on ebay. |
| 03:03.23 | file[laptop] | what about torture? |
| 03:03.29 | twisted | I, Robot on HBO |
| 03:03.31 | file[laptop] | X-Rob: but I don't wannnnna |
| 03:03.31 | twisted | if anyone cares |
| 03:03.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | that's ok, but only for twisted |
| 03:04.33 | MikeJ[Laptop] | and wrtp54g |
| 03:04.58 | X-Rob | They'll be supporting IAX_ANSWER_IMMEDIATE apparently. |
| 03:05.21 | X-Rob | within the last few weeks, suddently everyone's done paging. |
| 03:05.31 | X-Rob | snoms and GXP's now work. PA1688's will shortly too. |
| 03:05.32 | file[laptop] | that's AmAzInG |
| 03:05.56 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hmmm |
| 03:06.07 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I wan't chicken nuggets |
| 03:06.29 | X-Rob | what does 'wa' mean? |
| 03:06.32 | file[laptop] | X-Rob: don't do that, he'll go into a hyper state and fight back! |
| 03:06.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | twisted, can you please kick X-Rob back? |
| 03:06.42 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :P |
| 03:06.50 | X-Rob | "I wa not chicken nuggets" |
| 03:07.10 | X-Rob | ooh |
| 03:07.24 | X-Rob | 50 mins till I can go and see jade |
| 03:07.39 | X-Rob | babies are t3h r0xx0r. |
| 03:10.38 | JasonGT | Hello can anyone help me please with A@H 1.5 and Handytone 488 with F/W 1.0.2.16 configuration? I have got the fxs port working with * but not the fxo. Any incoming calls never make it and outgoing is kind of working, you dial the number then it gives you a dial tone and you have to dial it again and it works. Thanks |
| 03:11.24 | X-Rob | websae2k - well, you need to find out what's wrong first. Are you receiving the calls? 'sip debug' will show you if the provider is actually sending the calls to you. |
| 03:13.42 | file[laptop] | dejavu |
| 03:14.59 | *** join/#asterisk juice (n=juice@mo-67-77-177-133.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) |
| 03:15.13 | X-Rob | he still keeps messaging me |
| 03:15.36 | file[laptop] | :( |
| 03:15.43 | X-Rob | I said 'paypal US$60 and you can have an hour' and then he had to go. |
| 03:15.46 | X-Rob | funny that. |
| 03:15.57 | X-Rob | ..an hour of private consulting. |
| 03:18.27 | *** join/#asterisk TrainConductor (n=jdenton@dsl-209-205-184-158.i-55.com) |
| 03:18.50 | file[laptop] | well you just HAVE to help them in private for free you know... |
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| 03:22.20 | *** part/#asterisk TrainConductor (n=jdenton@dsl-209-205-184-158.i-55.com) |
| 03:22.29 | Dr_Ray | $60 for an hour is a bargain |
| 03:22.50 | dudes | not everyone would agree with that |
| 03:22.54 | *** part/#asterisk SarahEmm (n=sarahemm@Toronto-HSE-ppp3682154.sympatico.ca) |
| 03:22.58 | dudes | But it is |
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| 03:28.55 | dudes | Comfort noise support incomplete in Asterisk (RFC 3389). Please turn off on client if possible |
| 03:28.59 | dudes | how does one resolve that |
| 03:29.07 | X-Rob | you turn off CNG on the client. |
| 03:29.30 | X-Rob | (Duh) |
| 03:31.03 | dudes | so on my sip provider |
| 03:37.31 | *** join/#asterisk debeast (n=icechat5@rrcs-24-39-201-178.nys.biz.rr.com) |
| 03:37.52 | debeast | hello |
| 03:38.11 | debeast | anyone alive |
| 03:38.28 | file[laptop] | yup |
| 03:38.38 | debeast | funny |
| 03:38.44 | Pete_Largo | I'm alive and well, thanks for asking ;) |
| 03:38.58 | file[laptop] | er, wait, no I'm not |
| 03:39.33 | debeast | i installed asterisk using dselect is there a guide as to the setup files and a voip client i can use for free on my xp box |
| 03:40.10 | file[laptop] | http://www.voip-info.org/ is full of tons of info! |
| 03:40.28 | shido6 | keep bugging file, he'll eventually give in |
| 03:40.32 | debeast | why dont they have a link to it on the asterisk site |
| 03:40.54 | *** join/#asterisk Seyr (n=palor@cpe-67-10-139-141.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 03:41.13 | debeast | hey houston hows the weather |
| 03:41.47 | debeast | k file walk me through it |
| 03:41.58 | file[laptop] | walk you through what? |
| 03:42.19 | debeast | tell me what i need and ill find it |
| 03:42.27 | file[laptop] | you already said what you need |
| 03:42.42 | file[laptop] | "free voip client for windows" and "guide to asterisk" might be good things to Google for |
| 03:42.58 | debeast | i hate google |
| 03:43.10 | file[laptop] | too bad. |
| 03:43.17 | debeast | indeed |
| 03:43.28 | jontow | you'll not get far by hating google |
| 03:43.38 | Dr_Ray | oh, you do fine hating people |
| 03:43.43 | Dr_Ray | history is on your side |
| 03:43.48 | debeast | heh |
| 03:43.49 | Seyr | I have an * server forwarding calls for a DID to another * server, but if I call the DID, I lose DTMF. anyone have any idea? I have tried rfc2833 and inband |
| 03:44.06 | jontow | its only there to help; and by hating it you're merely displaying a lack of knowledge and a lack of resourcefulness |
| 03:44.09 | jontow | good luck. |
| 03:44.21 | jontow | </once again, 2c> |
| 03:44.47 | debeast | well i have some questions other then the setup more along hardware issues like ata's fxo cards etc |
| 03:44.58 | Pete_Largo | it's all on the wiki |
| 03:45.01 | jontow | http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/ |
| 03:45.12 | file[laptop] | I love this, it's like I have a following |
| 03:45.22 | Pete_Largo | and if it aint in the wiki, then try the mailing list archives |
| 03:45.39 | debeast | i looked at the 16 port pci voip card found the company but havent found a price for it yet |
| 03:45.46 | Pete_Largo | and if it aint in the mailng list archives, then ask here ;) |
| 03:46.38 | Pete_Largo | lol |
| 03:46.55 | debeast | ouch that tickled |
| 03:47.59 | Pete_Largo | oh, hey, if anyone cares... I'm still trying to get my grubby paws on a sample config file for a Mediatrix 2102... |
| 03:48.28 | pauldy | Pete_Largo, you been pluggin that same thing for a week now huh |
| 03:48.38 | debeast | i spent a little time looking through the wiki looked through all of the termination gateways as to price plans now iam looking for a place to buy the eqp experience has told me that a person who already has the hardware set up is a better resource then any webpage |
| 03:48.43 | Pete_Largo | lol, only three days pauldy |
| 03:48.55 | jontow | btw, if those who care happen to waltz by a movie theatre in the next few days and see the name 'serenity' on the now-playing list.. i highly recommend spending the $3-10 for a ticket and see it |
| 03:48.56 | pauldy | ah I've been runnig around just got home |
| 03:48.58 | pauldy | feels lke a week |
| 03:49.39 | jontow | guaranteed enjoyment for those who can discern a very valid number of points from a very graphic analogy |
| 03:49.49 | Pete_Largo | I'm just surpirsed that I wasn't able to find anything on the wiki or the mailnig lists or google... nobody seems to have asked or posted one before. |
| 03:50.06 | jontow | Pete_Largo: i've had the same issues with an Innomedia ATA/MTA/whathaveyou |
| 03:50.21 | Pete_Largo | it's just pissing me off to no end. |
| 03:50.23 | jontow | turns out i gave up on it temporarily as someone needed my testunit for something else :) |
| 03:50.35 | pauldy | never heard of a mediatrix before you mentioned it |
| 03:50.45 | pauldy | looked them up a lot of sales info |
| 03:50.46 | Pete_Largo | www.mediatrix.com I think |
| 03:50.51 | pauldy | but that was about all I found |
| 03:50.54 | jontow | anyway.. 'serenity'.. keep watch, excellent movie. |
| 03:50.59 | Pete_Largo | they lock their support to resellers only |
| 03:51.11 | jontow | apparently based on the firefly series, didn't catch that one though so the parallel means nothing to me |
| 03:51.11 | Pete_Largo | which sux |
| 03:51.16 | pauldy | well isnt that consumer friendly of them |
| 03:51.45 | jontow | have a good one, i'm headed to bed :) |
| 03:51.47 | Pete_Largo | My guess is that they only have one support guy, and he didn't want to answer emails |
| 03:51.53 | Pete_Largo | night jontow |
| 03:52.56 | pauldy | I thikn these guys are just scared because they know anyone with half a clue cuold replicated theri devices if they gave out to much info about them |
| 03:53.00 | debeast | OpenSwitch6/12 6/12-port FXS or FXO interface. Uses VPB interface. are there any other cards on the market similar to this iam looking to replace a analog pbx which died after getting wet |
| 03:53.22 | debeast | and if so how much do they cost roughly |
| 03:53.26 | Pete_Largo | how did your analog pbx get wet, I'm afraid to ask |
| 03:53.39 | debeast | frozen plumbing |
| 03:53.43 | pauldy | I found out most of the grandstream series are just oem kits from various chip providers |
| 03:54.06 | Pete_Largo | I don't doubt that one bit |
| 03:54.29 | Pete_Largo | why was the analog pbx next to plumbing, frozen or otherwise? |
| 03:54.31 | debeast | some idiot mounted it on a wall in the basement the rest is history |
| 03:54.47 | file[laptop] | I should go to sleep |
| 03:54.52 | Pete_Largo | but you wont |
| 03:55.09 | pauldy | neat, I would be on webmd asking how to get my foot out of someones ass |
| 03:55.10 | file[laptop] | quiet you :P |
| 03:55.12 | Pete_Largo | you'll lie in bed and think up code while trying to fall asleep |
| 03:55.21 | Pete_Largo | neat new code that we will all want to try out |
| 03:55.27 | debeast | i wish i was still that way |
| 03:56.25 | Pete_Largo | so you want to use a * system to replace your analog pbx, but you dont want to replace your analog phones...??? |
| 03:57.27 | debeast | iam quoting this for a person who is extra cheap |
| 03:57.28 | *** part/#asterisk Carp1 (i=Carp1@cpe-69-205-41-192.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:57.37 | Pete_Largo | what about ATAs? |
| 03:58.08 | Pete_Largo | extra cheap people usually get what they pay for. |
| 03:58.19 | debeast | well which way would you suggest i have 32 phones |
| 03:58.26 | file[laptop] | okay so Aliens... 2 or 3 is on... so I'm going to watch that then go to sleep |
| 03:58.40 | Pete_Largo | 32 grandstream bt101s or sipura 841s or the like |
| 03:59.05 | Pete_Largo | Aliens will never age |
| 03:59.14 | debeast | are these individual ata's or multiport models |
| 03:59.20 | Pete_Largo | those are phones |
| 04:00.08 | file[laptop] | I've never seen this one |
| 04:00.15 | debeast | the distance between the phone area and the phones is great enough that i cant run net over the existing wires |
| 04:00.15 | Pete_Largo | the grandstream bt101 is selling for around 50-60 bucks |
| 04:01.39 | debeast | and i cant run 100 tx over cat5 distance greater then 200 ft |
| 04:01.42 | pauldy | they can wire anything |
| 04:02.22 | Pete_Largo | why don't you put the * server closer to the phones? |
| 04:02.26 | pauldy | debeast, 100 meters is the limit and they have media converters that go from fibre to cat5 |
| 04:02.44 | debeast | thats excess cost |
| 04:02.53 | Pete_Largo | why don't you put the * server closer to the phones? |
| 04:02.57 | debeast | although it would be ideal |
| 04:03.31 | pauldy | we used some device from Picaso to do a bank of 100 phones in a single PC based pbx |
| 04:03.33 | debeast | however if i run new wires i run into other issues |
| 04:03.52 | Pete_Largo | what new wires? |
| 04:03.59 | Pete_Largo | put the box closer to the phones |
| 04:04.10 | debeast | the existing phone lines are 22 guage no twisted pair |
| 04:04.21 | Pete_Largo | no twisted pair? |
| 04:04.26 | debeast | non |
| 04:04.26 | Pete_Largo | what does that mean? |
| 04:04.45 | debeast | straight cable like cat 1 |
| 04:04.51 | Pete_Largo | non twisted pair... how old is this building???!!!??? |
| 04:04.56 | debeast | old |
| 04:04.57 | pauldy | crap wiring, crap pbx install |
| 04:05.02 | pauldy | you get what you pay 4 |
| 04:05.14 | debeast | it's a hotel with a large number of cabins behind the property |
| 04:05.21 | Pete_Largo | at this point I'd call it the 80/20 rule and sell the guy a used exactly what he had before |
| 04:06.08 | debeast | but then i dont get to play with new technology at someone elses expense |
| 04:06.16 | pauldy | see rewiring with cat though could also be an investment if he offered internet ni the rooms |
| 04:06.34 | debeast | yes could be |
| 04:06.51 | pauldy | plus means more money for you with the install |
| 04:07.00 | Pete_Largo | let me guess, it's a Panasonic KXT phone system? |
| 04:07.01 | pauldy | if you coud lcoax him down that road |
| 04:07.10 | debeast | and service when something goes wrong |
| 04:07.30 | hypa7ia | Pete_Largo: 80/20 rule? |
| 04:07.36 | debeast | it is a panasonic with the digital base station |
| 04:07.47 | Pete_Largo | 20 percent of your customer's account for 80 percent of your service headaches |
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| 04:08.23 | debeast | iam hopping for something i can administer remotley |
| 04:08.28 | Dr_Ray | well, the headaches mean you are selling to people who actually need your services |
| 04:08.31 | debeast | hoping |
| 04:08.48 | Pete_Largo | if it was me, I'd sell him on the voip phones, and get them to use a better class of phone line (like T1) |
| 04:08.49 | pauldy | Dr_Ray, butt he ones with problems like that are the least likely to want to pay for them |
| 04:09.07 | debeast | yes and the chance to have my name mentioned to others in the area |
| 04:09.10 | pauldy | thats the reason they are int hose possitions to begin with |
| 04:09.10 | Pete_Largo | right pauldy |
| 04:09.19 | Pete_Largo | right again |
| 04:09.36 | Pete_Largo | and the only way they will mention your name is when they bitch about how you screwed them |
| 04:09.46 | debeast | hope not |
| 04:09.50 | pauldy | hehe |
| 04:10.51 | pauldy | yup those are the ones where you hit the point you are willing to pay them to leave you alone |
| 04:10.54 | FuriousGeorge | when i use eyebeam to foreward calls from the pstn back to the pstn, the remaining parties cant understand eachother (the quality s terrible)... im installing zap channels tomorrow... u guys think if i used * to make the xfer the quaality qould be better? |
| 04:11.07 | FuriousGeorge | *would |
| 04:11.11 | debeast | well if i could find an 8 port card for one of those panasonics maybe i could just drop it in the box and reconfigure it using the rs 232 hookup |
| 04:11.38 | pauldy | FuriousGeorge, I think the quality would be much better xten gave me many troubles when testing out my initial * install |
| 04:11.40 | FuriousGeorge | i notice there's a transfer dialplan app, and i know you do it on zap channels with a flash x-fer |
| 04:11.43 | debeast | i think its just the one fried card that screwed the whole thing up |
| 04:11.44 | Pete_Largo | www.austintele.com |
| 04:12.04 | Pete_Largo | stocks panasonic stuff and are very good at support too... I've used them in the past |
| 04:12.25 | debeast | hmm worth a go nothing to loose any way |
| 04:12.46 | Pete_Largo | you might make more money that way too ;) |
| 04:12.52 | FuriousGeorge | pauldy: i cant figure out why, i know its not bandwidth, but it just sounds like crap when i use eyebeam to xfer |
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| 04:14.23 | pauldy | FuriousGeorge, I don't think xten ever lets go of the calls and it has that crappy jitter correction |
| 04:15.40 | debeast | in another instance however i would need 32 analog interfaces because i would run the risk of loosing the phones from public areas much easier for them to provide there own and if they decide to go digtal i just repach the cable |
| 04:15.41 | pauldy | when I moved off that to my real voip phone I had several people make comments like so did you finally get rid of that voip crap |
| 04:16.15 | pauldy | when I told them I was still on it they were asking how I got it to sound so good |
| 04:16.29 | debeast | experience |
| 04:17.11 | Pete_Largo | use adapters |
| 04:17.35 | debeast | as in ata's |
| 04:18.02 | Pete_Largo | right |
| 04:18.25 | debeast | is that cost effective for me over a pci fxs card |
| 04:18.47 | Pete_Largo | well, how many PCI slots do you have? |
| 04:18.53 | debeast | 5 open |
| 04:18.53 | pauldy | debeast, ~ the same but the pci fxs cards sem to offer a higher REN |
| 04:19.04 | pauldy | about 50 bucks a port |
| 04:19.39 | Pete_Largo | and how many PCI slots do you need for phone lines? |
| 04:19.41 | debeast | have you heard of plexis |
| 04:20.14 | Pete_Largo | no, can't say I have |
| 04:20.16 | debeast | off subject |
| 04:21.21 | debeast | i used a device in the military that you had to telnet into and it supported 24 line interfaces with variable codes and each port could be toggled between fxs and fxo |
| 04:21.47 | debeast | i think it was made by plexis |
| 04:21.57 | pauldy | chances are thats an expensive option |
| 04:22.11 | Pete_Largo | was it a plexus 9000 ? |
| 04:22.15 | Pete_Largo | made by telica |
| 04:22.32 | debeast | yes but atleaset i know the format of the e1 european and t1 american interfaces |
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| 04:23.20 | debeast | the only thing intresting i got out of 65,00 in training |
| 04:23.34 | debeast | err 65,000 |
| 04:23.42 | pauldy | aquired by lucent technologies |
| 04:23.44 | debeast | tax money well spent |
| 04:23.47 | shido6 | pesos? |
| 04:23.52 | debeast | dollars |
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| 04:24.25 | Pete_Largo | think you got ripped off? |
| 04:24.44 | debeast | i didnt pay it the government did |
| 04:24.56 | Pete_Largo | well, I feel ripped off now |
| 04:24.57 | FuriousGeorge | soviet rubel? does asterisk automatically generate exten n+100 when a channel is busy? im reading this thing that seems to imply it does. if so, why am i using chanisavail in my dialout macros? |
| 04:25.09 | pauldy | +100 or 101 |
| 04:25.09 | Pete_Largo | n+101 |
| 04:25.42 | FuriousGeorge | yeah, thats what i meant, it does huh? then whats the point of ChanIsAvail? |
| 04:26.05 | pauldy | looks like the plexus technology has been transfered to the Lucent Comact Switch |
| 04:26.13 | debeast | intresting thing though while i was in germany i had an isdn phone line in the barracks and it cost less then an analog phone |
| 04:26.16 | Pete_Largo | I can't think of one right now FuriousGeorge |
| 04:26.47 | Pete_Largo | The US is far behind in that regard debeast |
| 04:26.58 | debeast | yes tell me about it |
| 04:27.00 | Pete_Largo | we should all have ISDN BRI at home by now |
| 04:27.29 | debeast | its easier to switch and you get twice the bandwidth |
| 04:27.40 | pauldy | I had one at my apt from 94-97 |
| 04:27.56 | Pete_Largo | the German engineers at Siemens made a small business phone system and couldn't figure out why no one in the US would buy it... it only took BRI lines in |
| 04:27.57 | debeast | i still have my isdn fritz card which i had setup on my debian box over there |
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| 04:28.56 | debeast | along with my converter box which gives me 3 analog phones out |
| 04:29.13 | Pete_Largo | 3? |
| 04:29.20 | FuriousGeorge | Pete_Largo: here's one reason, if i have a priority 1, followed by a 102, will it proceed from 1 to 102 regardless of if the chan is really busy? |
| 04:29.23 | Pete_Largo | BRI = 2B+D |
| 04:29.29 | Strider_ | i need a little help |
| 04:29.34 | FuriousGeorge | assuming nothing in between |
| 04:29.38 | debeast | over there you get three numbers with an isdn line only 2 can be active at a time |
| 04:29.54 | debeast | but they give you 3 |
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| 04:30.00 | Strider_ | Its possible to know an extension context |
| 04:30.13 | Pete_Largo | you mean will it stop processing the call because there is no priorty 2-101? the answer is no it wont stop processing the call |
| 04:30.26 | Strider_ | but is not with getting ${CONTEXT} |
| 04:30.39 | Strider_ | i mean i call from extension 2000 |
| 04:30.51 | Strider_ | and i need to know extension 2001 context |
| 04:31.09 | Pete_Largo | why would 2001 be in a differnt context from 2000? |
| 04:31.12 | Strider_ | its that possible without using and agi to parse sip.conf |
| 04:31.14 | debeast | alright ill catch you al later iam printing out some of these wiki pages |
| 04:31.25 | Pete_Largo | later debeast |
| 04:31.28 | Strider_ | because 2000 has Long-distance access |
| 04:31.33 | Strider_ | and 2001 no |
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| 04:31.47 | FuriousGeorge | Pete_Largo: right so whether i use chan is avail or not, i need to specify priority n+1 to be a hangup or the call could happen again (if for instance user doesnt hang up right away) |
| 04:31.48 | Strider_ | or im i doing this bad ? |
| 04:31.49 | Pete_Largo | and you want 2000 and 2001 to be able to call each other? |
| 04:32.08 | Strider_ | Pete_Largo, yes |
| 04:32.14 | Strider_ | they are able to call each other |
| 04:32.15 | FuriousGeorge | cuz in my dialplan if the chan is busy it tries the call with another technology |
| 04:32.16 | Pete_Largo | it's good practice to hang up a call when logically there is nothing else to do |
| 04:32.45 | Strider_ | but if 2001 enables Call Forwarding inconditional |
| 04:32.53 | Strider_ | and its a long distance number |
| 04:32.58 | Strider_ | and 2000 calls |
| 04:33.06 | Strider_ | to 2001 |
| 04:33.11 | Strider_ | that call should fail |
| 04:33.40 | Strider_ | i dont want to make a call forwarding different for each context |
| 04:34.21 | Pete_Largo | but 2001 is the phone that is placing the call at the point that it is forwarded??? |
| 04:34.45 | tombone | anyone here capable of answering an audio-related question? |
| 04:34.54 | tombone | and willing? |
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| 04:35.02 | Strider_ | Pete_Largo, no |
| 04:35.09 | Pete_Largo | so FuriousGeorge, you could have 1,noop 2,hangup and 102,noopsomethingelse |
| 04:35.16 | pauldy | tombone, just ask if someone is either they will |
| 04:35.20 | Strider_ | 2001 enables call forwarding |
| 04:35.33 | Strider_ | and 2000 calls 2001 |
| 04:35.44 | Strider_ | and the call get long-distance transfered |
| 04:35.49 | Strider_ | but i want it to fail |
| 04:35.58 | Strider_ | because 2001 doesnt have that privilege |
| 04:36.20 | Pete_Largo | but Strider_ my point is that 2001 is the phone that enabled the call to be place long distance, regardless of who calls into 2001 they will be forwarded. |
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| 04:36.30 | redax | good morning, |
| 04:37.09 | Strider_ | Pete_Largo, yeah i know |
| 04:37.24 | Strider_ | but my question is how do i get 2001 context if 2000 is calling ? |
| 04:37.56 | redax | can you help me, what's the advantage of mIsdn over Capi or vica if I use AVM Fritz!pci as FXS isdn card ? |
| 04:38.15 | tombone | I'm simply trying to dial out through voxee to establish a connection between console and remote phone. I'm able to dial out and make the connection, but the problem is with the audio on the console side -- particularly the speaker output. While the phone is ringing I hear a ringback tone on the console speaker, but once I pick up the phone, and asterisk makes the indication, I am only able to hear myself speaking into the mic o |
| 04:38.16 | tombone | f the console (through the phone), and not hear anything from the console speaker. If I try to dial again, I no longer hear the ringback tone through the speaker. |
| 04:38.48 | pauldy | Strider_, you will have to setup a complex call forward dial plan that either valiadates the call forward prior to it being set to forward or validates the forward agains the user calling |
| 04:39.26 | Strider_ | pauldy, ok |
| 04:39.28 | pauldy | tombone, I'm still unable to get the console audio to work at all in 1.0.9 |
| 04:39.32 | tombone | The only way I get the sound back is to stop and start asterisk |
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| 04:39.55 | Strider_ | so there is no way, appart from and agi to know an extension context ? |
| 04:39.59 | tombone | pauldy, I had no luck with OSS, needed to use ALSA |
| 04:41.28 | tombone | If I start fresh, and I hangup from the console during the ring (before I pickup the phone), and while I'm hearing a ringback, the sound output on console is fine... I just run into problems as soon as the call is answered. |
| 04:42.26 | tombone | Any ideas? Anyone? |
| 04:43.17 | redax | never used the soundcard of the console ;( |
| 04:44.26 | pauldy | Strider_, either way your probably not going to find an easy answer for what is sounds like your trying to do |
| 04:44.31 | pauldy | but your end goal does sound doable |
| 04:45.21 | pauldy | Strider_, there is a section in my extensions.conf for call forwarding looks simple enough to modify |
| 04:45.33 | pauldy | Strider_, your asking about x while trying to do y |
| 04:48.07 | pauldy | you don't need to know the context of the phone if you r worries about keeping them seperate then get the call forward context out and create one for each context you wish to control permissions for |
| 04:48.25 | pauldy | then write them appropriatly and include them in the context you wish to control |
| 04:48.45 | pauldy | easy enough to do |
| 04:55.46 | FuriousGeorge | when a sip call is transfered is the conversation still "traveling through me" |
| 04:56.49 | FuriousGeorge | im refering to using the asterisk dialplan command transfer |
| 04:59.34 | FuriousGeorge | lets say asterisk box a calls an extension on asterisk box b. if i tell b to transfer the call back to an extension on a, is b still in the loop at all? |
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| 05:03.49 | justinnnnn | hey ppls |
| 05:03.55 | justinnnnn | once i edit zapata.conf or zaptel.conf |
| 05:03.55 | FuriousGeorge | anyone? |
| 05:04.07 | justinnnnn | how do i reload the zaptel modules and crap so it takes affect ? |
| 05:04.28 | FuriousGeorge | justinnnnn: what distro? |
| 05:04.34 | justinnnnn | debian |
| 05:05.15 | FuriousGeorge | zaptel has an initscript you can restart, same for asterisk. i know how it works on gentoo,debian is probably similar |
| 05:05.24 | justinnnnn | wheres the initscript ? |
| 05:05.50 | FuriousGeorge | in gentoo they are in /etc/init.d/ |
| 05:05.53 | Dr_Ray | why not just restart asterisk? |
| 05:06.37 | FuriousGeorge | Dr_Ray: he also asked about reloading zaptel service, which ive heard people recomend you do for certain changes to those files |
| 05:07.00 | justinnnnn | ya it doesnt work unless u restart the module |
| 05:07.05 | justinnnnn | atleast in the version im running |
| 05:07.09 | Dr_Ray | hmmmm |
| 05:07.20 | FuriousGeorge | justinnnnn: you could always modprobe -r by hand, no? |
| 05:07.30 | justinnnnn | ya im thinking |
| 05:07.33 | justinnnnn | rmmod |
| 05:07.34 | justinnnnn | and then modprobe |
| 05:07.38 | justinnnnn | i just wana double check tho |
| 05:08.47 | FuriousGeorge | Dr_Ray: any though on my sip/dialplan xfer quandry? if server a calls extension on server b, and server b uses the dialplan transfer to send it to * server c, is b in the loop still? is his bandwidth being uses? |
| 05:08.55 | FuriousGeorge | *used? |
| 05:08.59 | [hC] | hmm.. my T1 card is sharing irq3 with an onboard nic on a dell box |
| 05:09.11 | [hC] | how could i change the IRQ? maybe an override in the bios? |
| 05:09.26 | shido6 | yesh |
| 05:09.45 | FuriousGeorge | [hC]: as far as i know the only way is to (os some mb's) assign irq's manually to pci ports not using anything |
| 05:10.36 | FuriousGeorge | [hC]: err, you know what i mean |
| 05:10.52 | FuriousGeorge | shido6: is that "yesh" an answer to my xfer question? |
| 05:11.01 | shido6 | irq |
| 05:11.08 | shido6 | what was your xfer question? |
| 05:11.15 | [hC] | I had turned APIC off and it exposed the irq overlay |
| 05:11.25 | [hC] | i just got some sort of dma panic message, and zttool isnt quite 100% |
| 05:11.28 | [hC] | er, zttest. |
| 05:12.00 | FuriousGeorge | if asterisk server a calls asterisk server b, and server b does a dialplan transfer back to a (to tell it what to do with the call), is b's bandwidth still being used? |
| 05:12.19 | FuriousGeorge | shido6: thats the question |
| 05:12.50 | [hC] | if you have native bridging enabled then it will hand off and not use the bandwidth in the middle |
| 05:12.52 | shido6 | depends |
| 05:12.59 | shido6 | do you have "tT" in the dial statement? |
| 05:13.05 | shido6 | do you have notransfer=yes in iax.conf? |
| 05:13.08 | FuriousGeorge | i do |
| 05:13.11 | shido6 | do you have a background app running |
| 05:13.14 | FuriousGeorge | i dont |
| 05:13.16 | shido6 | to "listen" for dtmf |
| 05:13.28 | shido6 | and are you using IAX or SIP |
| 05:13.30 | shido6 | to do this |
| 05:13.34 | FuriousGeorge | sip |
| 05:13.38 | shido6 | why? |
| 05:13.56 | shido6 | its another asterisk box, right? |
| 05:14.12 | FuriousGeorge | the goal is a dirty dialplan hack to get sip messaging/presence working between 4 asterisk boxen with eyebeam as the client |
| 05:14.36 | FuriousGeorge | i would use iax b/w the servers |
| 05:15.51 | FuriousGeorge | basically i log all eyebeam clients into their respective server and one of the 4 which acts as a central server, but obviously i dont want the user clicking on the contact to actually call the party with the messaging server in the middle (like when calling a party behind the same * server) |
| 05:28.46 | twisted | oh hells yea |
| 05:28.47 | twisted | http://www.ohgizmo.com/2005/09/30/the-duct-tape-band-aid |
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| 05:31.41 | opus__ | Furious - where can I download eyebeam for video.. |
| 05:34.57 | FuriousGeorge | opus__: its commercial, you cant |
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| 06:07.58 | lehel | hello |
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| 06:39.40 | santiago | hi, does anyone knows if there is a problem with the music-on-hold on an iax trunk? I'm using asterisk stable from cvs, the music on hold works locally, but not with the calls from the iax trunk. |
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| 06:41.01 | _omer | hi everybody |
| 06:41.03 | dudes | I use head with no issues |
| 06:41.21 | shido6 | what kind of link do you have between the two santiago? |
| 06:41.25 | _omer | anyhelp on AsteriskWin32 ??? ..unble to do "Register =>" ... |
| 06:41.26 | shido6 | what codec are you using, too? |
| 06:41.45 | opus__ | santiago, disable VAD ? |
| 06:42.27 | santiago | shido6, I dial(IAX2/iaxuser@host/....) |
| 06:42.40 | santiago | opus__, VAD? googling... |
| 06:42.41 | shido6 | ok |
| 06:42.45 | shido6 | what codec are you using? |
| 06:43.00 | santiago | shido6, alaw |
| 06:43.33 | shido6 | why? |
| 06:43.47 | santiago | shido6, both boxes are connected via a switch |
| 06:44.04 | shido6 | how many simultaneous calls/calls per second? |
| 06:44.05 | santiago | shido6, they are on a 100Mb connection |
| 06:44.53 | santiago | shido6, hope 10 max |
| 06:45.27 | shido6 | so what is happening? |
| 06:46.21 | santiago | shido6, I'm unable to hear the music with the calls from the iax "trunk" |
| 06:46.38 | santiago | shido6, I've tested with Background, and it works |
| 06:46.58 | shido6 | so you're dialing through 2 boxes to hear music on hold on one of them |
| 06:47.27 | santiago | shido6, to a queue |
| 06:47.46 | shido6 | do you have music on hold configured on both boxes? |
| 06:49.10 | santiago | shido6, yes, box1 with madplay, box2 with mpg123 |
| 06:49.28 | shido6 | madplay? |
| 06:49.29 | santiago | opus__, but VAD is only needed for RPT->SIP? |
| 06:49.59 | santiago | shido6, yes, look at the top of http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+musiconhold.conf |
| 06:50.35 | santiago | shido6, mgp123 doesn't compile on that machine, it's a x86_64 |
| 06:51.01 | opus__ | yes, on second thoughs i dunno if your problem |
| 06:51.05 | santiago | shido6, but I can hear the music with the local calls |
| 06:52.36 | opus__ | santiago I have had that problem, but only for remote sites. Disabling VAD fixed it, which is voice supression (no audio, why send packets) |
| 06:52.56 | opus__ | santiago You might want to make sure you have a proper timing device installed |
| 06:53.05 | opus__ | and that its working. |
| 06:54.32 | santiago | opus__, I have zap cards on both machines |
| 06:55.21 | santiago | opus__, shido6, thanks |
| 06:55.37 | santiago | i'll try again tomorrow |
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| 06:57.01 | opus__ | double check and triple check your timing device.. |
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| 06:57.10 | opus__ | try an alternative MoH library |
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| 07:05.54 | BMS | hello there |
| 07:06.19 | BMS | is anybody working on the SIP Presence server? |
| 07:09.43 | BMS | hello |
| 07:09.43 | BMS | is anybody working on the SIP presence server |
| 07:09.47 | BMS | please answer me? |
| 07:10.38 | SplasPood | I don't think anyone is awake |
| 07:11.21 | niZon | this is #asterisk... so I kind of doubt it |
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| 07:13.34 | shido6 | ? |
| 07:13.36 | shido6 | whats up? |
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| 07:16.01 | wasim | humiditiy |
| 07:16.40 | wasim | price of petrol |
| 07:19.02 | Pete_Largo | fuck gas |
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| 07:21.29 | shido6 | we are entering the age of light |
| 07:21.35 | shido6 | and hopefully we can escape gasoline entirely and move towards using water |
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| 07:22.49 | Pete_Largo | should have been dealt with 30 years ago |
| 07:35.11 | lehel | it is possible that a 333 phone is ringing, and i can answer with the 334 phone? |
| 07:35.40 | Pete_Largo | that would be a call pickup group |
| 07:36.03 | Pete_Largo | search for 'pickup group' on the wiki, the mailing lists, and google |
| 07:36.12 | lehel | k..10x |
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| 07:44.34 | DiReCTOR | hi |
| 07:44.49 | DiReCTOR | anyone there |
| 07:44.54 | Pete_Largo | nope |
| 07:45.09 | DiReCTOR | alrite |
| 07:45.16 | shido6 | yep |
| 07:45.34 | DiReCTOR | need some info on TE110P |
| 07:45.44 | shido6 | like what? |
| 07:45.48 | shido6 | what do you want to do? |
| 07:46.26 | DiReCTOR | I want to build a ras server , and use ISDN PRI , so ppl can dial up from other location having ISDN BRI Lines to dial |
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| 07:46.44 | DiReCTOR | will that card serve me the purpose |
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| 07:46.59 | BMS | hello everybody |
| 07:48.03 | BMS | there is a supplimentary service option in the web page configuration of the Sipura, called Caller ID generatoin on/off.. |
| 07:48.14 | DiReCTOR | shido6: any idea |
| 07:48.26 | BMS | what does it mean by caller ID generation ? |
| 07:48.38 | BMS | can anybody please tell me |
| 07:48.50 | shido6 | I dont use ISDN BRI :) |
| 07:49.21 | DiReCTOR | i mean if i terminate a ISDN PRI in this card TE110P |
| 07:49.28 | shido6 | yes |
| 07:49.55 | DiReCTOR | in a Remote Server, this will help or no? |
| 07:49.59 | BMS | does anybody know the answer to my question? |
| 07:50.17 | shido6 | explain what you want to do in detail |
| 07:50.37 | shido6 | BMS, be more specific. |
| 07:50.53 | BMS | ok |
| 07:51.15 | DiReCTOR | I want to build a Remote Access Server, Currently we are using normal telephone lines, and application runs very slow |
| 07:51.26 | DiReCTOR | ISDN is a good option |
| 07:51.57 | implicit | goodnight |
| 07:52.24 | BMS | in the web based configuration of the Sipura ATA, there is a option which reads as Caller ID generation off/on. Do you have any idea what does it mean by generation of the caller ID? |
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| 07:53.00 | shido6 | dunno - |
| 07:53.03 | shido6 | I would leave it off |
| 07:53.07 | shido6 | and set cid in asterisk |
| 07:53.52 | BMS | ok |
| 07:54.05 | ztriver | anyone got callerID working on a TDM400p card with FXO ? (europe/sweden) |
| 07:54.26 | shido6 | incoming caller id? |
| 07:54.30 | ztriver | yea |
| 07:54.42 | shido6 | whats happening? |
| 07:54.42 | ztriver | from ZAPtrunk |
| 07:54.57 | ztriver | i only get Caller ID "unknown" |
| 07:55.37 | ztriver | reseller claims callerid wont work with that card but in forums i get the idea the people have got it to work |
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| 07:56.14 | ztriver | il ask again when more people awake :-) |
| 07:56.17 | szer | hi |
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| 07:58.06 | BMS | is anybody working on the SIP presence server |
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| 07:58.19 | Pete_Largo | director, I think the te110p will accept PRI but why woulud you want to use a VOIP server for RAS? |
| 07:58.52 | BMS | hello |
| 07:59.22 | Pete_Largo | The TE110P supports industry standard telephony and data protocols, including both RBS and Primary Rate ISDN (PRI) protocol families for voice and PPP, Cisco HDLC, and Frame Relay data modes. The board drives both line-side and trunk-side interfaces, including call features. |
| 07:59.53 | Pete_Largo | ~google |
| 07:59.59 | jbot | google is, like, a search engine found at http://www.google.com/ |
| 08:00.40 | BMS | is anybody working on the SIP protocol development |
| 08:00.41 | BMS | ? |
| 08:02.46 | phpboy | exten => _0XXXXXXXXX,1,Dial(Zap/g1/${EXTEN}) <--- if I have an extention like that working with a Quad ISDN card.. that'kk hunt for an open line to dial out of, right? |
| 08:04.19 | NiHo | if all the ISDN channels are in group1 |
| 08:05.16 | phpboy | which they are |
| 08:09.57 | oej | BMS: Yes, what's up? |
| 08:11.21 | oej | BMS: You usually find developers in #asterisk-dev |
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| 08:18.37 | Zeeek | aha |
| 08:18.41 | wasim | bonjour |
| 08:18.54 | Zeeek | I must have id'ed too soon before login |
| 08:18.56 | Zeeek | was done |
| 08:19.02 | Zeeek | who has an ip500? anyone? |
| 08:19.44 | Zeeek | interestingly wasim, the PA1688 phones have new, improved firmware |
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| 08:20.47 | Zeeek | in fact, that would be more interesting to people who actually have the phones |
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| 08:21.46 | oej | Zeeek: I have 600, but no IP500 |
| 08:22.03 | Zeeek | hi oej |
| 08:22.11 | oej | MOrning |
| 08:22.23 | Zeeek | I just wondered, since I got mine working and it has old firmware... |
| 08:22.37 | Zeeek | how much it's worth upgrading when it works fine? |
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| 08:22.57 | oej | Zeeek: I would not know, I've only used one version... |
| 08:22.59 | Zeeek | I finally installed asterisk 1.0.9 after waiting months scared in a corner |
| 08:23.09 | Zeeek | and it didn't break anything! |
| 08:23.36 | Zeeek | oej does the star and pound keys do special things on the poly? |
| 08:24.38 | SwK | 500s are nice |
| 08:24.46 | Zeeek | I just wondered if that can be disabled |
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| 08:25.02 | wasim | Zeeek: pa168 rocks |
| 08:25.04 | Zeeek | because we have sys commands like **4# and they won't work right |
| 08:25.41 | Zeeek | otherwise the ip500 is a great phone. I wonder if the remaining 500's will be cheap now that the newer 501s are out? |
| 08:26.43 | oej | Haven't gone through the configuration in that detail, but they seem to be pretty configurable. |
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| 08:27.46 | fishboy1669 | hi |
| 08:27.52 | fishboy1669 | how peeps |
| 08:28.00 | Zeeek | it's sometimes hard to follow a doc where "contact" means the number you call for vmail |
| 08:28.21 | Zeeek | they seem to invent their own vocab on purpose, these companies |
| 08:29.11 | phpboy | NiHo: u in? |
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| 08:29.42 | Zeeek | so many boys... no girls? |
| 08:30.02 | Zeeek | isn't this the asterisk pr0n chatroom? |
| 08:30.42 | fishboy1669 | hi zeek |
| 08:30.44 | fishboy1669 | hows things |
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| 08:32.42 | Zeeek | slow |
| 08:32.47 | Zeeek | yu? |
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| 08:35.33 | iDunno | wooo! I have the book! |
| 08:35.54 | lehel | which one? |
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| 08:40.59 | Pete_Largo | NOTICE[19984]: chan_iax2.c:2447 iax2_read: I should never be called! |
| 08:41.09 | Pete_Largo | that's an interesting message |
| 08:41.28 | Zeeek | what version of * ? |
| 08:41.39 | Simon- | I get it a lot when I transfer calls in (1.0.8) but I just ignore it ;) |
| 08:41.39 | Pete_Largo | cvs 1.0.9 |
| 08:41.41 | Zeeek | I was that yesterday too. v1.0.9 |
| 08:42.01 | Zeeek | stale nonce too? |
| 08:42.14 | Pete_Largo | nothing about a stale nonce |
| 08:42.29 | Zeeek | i think that's polycom-(related the stale nonce |
| 08:42.41 | Pete_Largo | probably |
| 08:42.58 | Zeeek | since they don't smell, I ignore them |
| 08:43.11 | Pete_Largo | well, the call seems to have processed normally |
| 08:43.25 | Pete_Largo | let's just call that error message a bug for now ;) |
| 08:43.41 | oej | Stale-nonce was implemented for SIPURA phones |
| 08:44.08 | Zeeek | my ip500 gets them from time to time |
| 08:44.17 | Zeeek | I saw someone mention same in ML |
| 08:44.43 | Pete_Largo | hey, does anyone know how/if I can change Festival to use a female voice? |
| 08:44.46 | oej | It's no error really, it's just information. Asterisk does not support re-use of authentication. |
| 08:45.21 | Inv_arp | customer wants this ex... "for cust dept press 1 (They will press 1, and that cues the following MENU) for john press 1, alex press 2.... wont having those extensions conflict with dept extensions? |
| 08:45.33 | Pete_Largo | no |
| 08:45.36 | Pete_Largo | different context |
| 08:46.19 | Inv_arp | ahh |
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| 08:47.04 | Pete_Largo | so I guess no Festival experts on the chan tonight eh? |
| 08:47.20 | oej | Tonight? It is a bright morning! |
| 08:47.34 | Pete_Largo | well shit, thanks for spoiling it for me oej |
| 08:47.45 | Inv_arp | Pete_Largo: pete got a quick example on what to write out |
| 08:47.55 | Pete_Largo | uh |
| 08:47.58 | Pete_Largo | something like: |
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| 08:48.38 | phpboy | how would I 'receive' calls on a working QUAd isdn card? |
| 08:48.43 | shido6 | Zzzz |
| 08:48.47 | shido6 | sleep time |
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| 08:49.01 | Pete_Largo | [main-menu] exten=>s,1,background(greeting) exten=>1,1,GoTo(cust-dept,1) and then [cust-debt] exten=>1,1,Dial(john) |
| 08:49.25 | Pete_Largo | er debt should be dept |
| 08:49.27 | Pete_Largo | lol |
| 08:50.09 | Inv_arp | ahh k |
| 08:51.26 | Pete_Largo | and I left off the s, on the goto cust-dept thing too |
| 08:51.34 | Pete_Largo | maybe it is time to go to sleep |
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| 08:51.52 | Inv_arp | Pete_Largo: thx |
| 08:51.55 | Pete_Largo | np |
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| 08:53.44 | phpboy | Pete_Largo: where do I set the context for incoming calls? |
| 08:53.56 | Pete_Largo | ar? |
| 08:54.06 | phpboy | sorry? |
| 08:54.14 | Inv_arp | phpboy: in extensions.conf |
| 08:54.33 | Pete_Largo | I feel like I walked into the middle of a conversation, sorry |
| 08:54.58 | oej | phpboy: It depends on the channel. In sip.conf you set it for peers/users in their config section and for unknown in the [general] section |
| 08:57.01 | phpboy | how do I see if zap is atleast 'seeing' the call? |
| 08:58.54 | phpboy | :< |
| 08:59.01 | Pete_Largo | all voip all the time :) |
| 08:59.18 | _omer | any ASTWIND help??? |
| 08:59.45 | oej | phpboy: Check all the available CLI commands, just so you get to know asterisk. There is a zap debug command and PRI debug as well. |
| 09:02.14 | fishboy1669 | zeek thinks ok here |
| 09:02.24 | fishboy1669 | monday morning blues but other than that fine |
| 09:02.39 | fishboy1669 | busy weekend clubbing and wakeboarding |
| 09:02.54 | fishboy1669 | trying to decided if its worth coming accross the pond to ast conf |
| 09:03.00 | fishboy1669 | boss suggested it to me |
| 09:03.23 | fishboy1669 | so as long as i can give him good reasoning i get a trip to the states :) |
| 09:03.29 | phpboy | oej: if I do a pri intense debug... it should atleast 'catch' the call even though there isn't an answer? |
| 09:03.40 | oej | You should see calls coming in |
| 09:03.52 | fishboy1669 | has anyone got the orilly book yet? |
| 09:03.56 | fishboy1669 | is it any good? |
| 09:04.00 | phpboy | pri intense debug span 1 |
| 09:04.01 | fishboy1669 | i have it on order |
| 09:04.13 | oej | fishboy1669: Yes, it's a good bok. Very good. |
| 09:04.17 | phpboy | oej: with that enabled I should see it coming through the interface, right? |
| 09:04.25 | oej | Right |
| 09:05.19 | oej | Back later... |
| 09:07.38 | Pete_Largo | is now a good(er) time to ask about Festival? |
| 09:07.51 | RoyKa | gooder? |
| 09:07.59 | Pete_Largo | than when I asked earlier |
| 09:09.11 | fishboy1669 | oej cool im looking forward to life changing insite into asterisk |
| 09:09.20 | fishboy1669 | does it have much advanced stuff |
| 09:09.27 | Zeeek | that'll come with the beer |
| 09:09.33 | _omer | "astwind is like a nightmare" |
| 09:09.54 | _omer | anyhelp configuring NETWORK INTERFACE? |
| 09:09.55 | fishboy1669 | is there much on loadballencing and call center size boxes |
| 09:10.29 | iDunno | 'call center size boxes' - erm, just what's one of those... call centers tend to vary in size... |
| 09:13.12 | RoyK | sun over oslo right now: http://hyades.uio.no/heggedal2.html :) |
| 09:13.15 | fishboy1669 | iDunno anything bigger that 20 phones wich is my biggest install to date |
| 09:13.26 | fishboy1669 | stuff where u need to load ballance the boxes |
| 09:14.33 | Pete_Largo | I figure a decent sized call center to have 4 PRI/T1 for dialing, 10-24 lines for local calling, admin, verification, and about 20-30 agents and 20-30 support staff, admins, managers, etc. |
| 09:15.05 | Pete_Largo | much more than that and they usually open another call center across town for a better selection of 'fronters' and 'closers' |
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| 09:15.32 | dyn | hi ppl |
| 09:15.58 | dyn | i'm having heavy noise problems and I'd like to ask some help narrowing down the issue |
| 09:17.00 | dyn | i have a cheapo ISDN PCI card and an SB Live. when making outgoing calls to my mobile, the speak is crystal clear in the mobile.. on the server side the speak can hardly be separated from the background noise which sounds similar to the usual modem noise |
| 09:17.33 | dyn | (I'm very new to asterisk and all that so please deal with me :) |
| 09:18.13 | dyn | so, maybe I need to configure my Live! with alsa somehow (eg. routing) to drop the modem noise, or that's because the ISDN card collects all noise from the machine or what can cause that problem? |
| 09:19.52 | fishboy1669 | Pete our telco supplies sip straight to our astrix box so its just sip channesl |
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| 09:24.11 | Inv_arp | hmm is there a way to hang-up if an invalid extension is tried 3 times |
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| 09:27.47 | fishboy1669 | any of u guys off to astconf? |
| 09:31.04 | dyn | err.. anyone could comment on the modem noise please? |
| 09:34.18 | Pete_Largo | well then the equivalent in sip channels, but they'd probably need some serious bandwidth for that many simeltaneous calls |
| 09:34.29 | Pete_Largo | simultaneous |
| 09:34.57 | dyn | or maybe the issue i get is mainly caused by the hisax driver? |
| 09:35.13 | iDunno | dyn: or maybe you've got an IRQ conflict... |
| 09:35.35 | dyn | iDunno: i'll check that in a moment, good idea |
| 09:35.58 | Pete_Largo | well this is pissing me off now... Festival... I put a init script in init.d to start it as a service and the fuck program starts but the script never finishes... it hangs at "starting festival..." but festival is fucking running! shit |
| 09:36.14 | dyn | iDunno: i know that Eicon 2.0 PCI card is one of the cheapest one.. but it's hard to believe it falls to the unusable noise category.. |
| 09:36.52 | Pete_Largo | daemon festival_server should run it in the damn background and continue on with the script! |
| 09:37.07 | fishboy1669 | any one any idea on this |
| 09:37.10 | fishboy1669 | chan_sip.c:9271: internal compiler error: output_operand: invalid expression as operand |
| 09:37.21 | fishboy1669 | its when i am trying to compile astereisk 1.0.9 |
| 09:37.29 | fishboy1669 | on suse 9.3 pro |
| 09:37.32 | iDunno | well, that's the bit of our asterisk server that hasn't been tested yet, the box is sitting under my desk and does all the SIP stuff... but we haven't got an ISDN line here that I can test it on... that's down in the other office, so I don't know if that works yet, and this has some horribly cheap cards in it. |
| 09:37.52 | Pete_Largo | how many times did you retry it? fishboy1669 |
| 09:37.57 | fishboy1669 | lots |
| 09:38.08 | dyn | iDunno: i tested SIP and IAX communications - no noise, great quality here |
| 09:38.09 | fishboy1669 | from cvs and from tar.gz |
| 09:38.21 | Pete_Largo | no clue, did you try 1.0.8? |
| 09:38.24 | Pete_Largo | or head? |
| 09:38.25 | fishboy1669 | iDunno that sounds scary horrible cheap cards lol |
| 09:38.33 | fishboy1669 | no but can do |
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| 09:38.40 | dyn | iDunno: and i get excellent quality on the called side too... it's just the caller (asterisk console) which is unacceptable noisy |
| 09:38.45 | fishboy1669 | cheers pete |
| 09:38.45 | Pete_Largo | see what happens, the worst thing is that you waste an hour |
| 09:39.05 | Pete_Largo | not if Festival keeps giving me anurisms |
| 09:39.34 | dyn | fishboy1669: what cards can bring acceptable sound qualities using isdn? i've seen some extreme prices for Diva Server 3.0 cards for example.. |
| 09:39.56 | iDunno | dyn: maybe your sb live is doing a feedback loop with the mic, try muting the mic? |
| 09:40.57 | dyn | iDunno: i tried it, it's the same.. but my live got about 4 channels labelled as 'PCM Send' which seems not to affect eg. local PCM playback but controls the noise (and the speech) of the phone talk |
| 09:41.31 | dyn | i remember SBLives had some OSS tools which could be used to set up and alter the routing of various channels, but afaik they dont exist anymore for alsa |
| 09:41.34 | fishboy1669 | dyn the one i have is a bri speedway one |
| 09:41.45 | fishboy1669 | it all comiled ok but i never got a isdn to test |
| 09:41.59 | fishboy1669 | pri i used digium at my last company |
| 09:42.03 | dyn | fishboy1669: hmm so we cannot say too much about its sound quality, can we |
| 09:42.36 | dyn | fishboy1669: i'm ready to replace that isdn card with a serious one once it got proved that it's causing the problem and not something else |
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| 09:42.44 | fishboy1669 | wasnt being fesicus just the comment horribly cheap cards sounded worrieing |
| 09:43.00 | fishboy1669 | aha sounds like a good plan |
| 09:43.12 | X-Rob | facetious |
| 09:43.14 | dyn | fishboy1669: that's a $25 card what we got here for testing |
| 09:43.25 | dyn | i'm not surprised it causes problems (if it is it) |
| 09:44.15 | dyn | iDunno: the Diva card seems to share the usb controller's irq (usb is not used on that box) |
| 09:44.28 | fishboy1669 | its difficult when it comes to hardware i used to use x100p's and i got different results just by where i plugged it into which phone |
| 09:44.35 | fishboy1669 | works phone was bad home was perfect |
| 09:44.48 | dyn | fishboy1669: maybe cable length affects..? |
| 09:45.04 | fishboy1669 | one was bt line one was ntl |
| 09:45.16 | fishboy1669 | but they were both supposet to be the same standard |
| 09:45.17 | fishboy1669 | ! |
| 09:45.40 | fishboy1669 | thats why i rejoiced when our telco fed us direct sip |
| 09:45.44 | dyn | and by "bad" you mean background noise or something else? |
| 09:45.49 | fishboy1669 | echo |
| 09:45.52 | dyn | ah |
| 09:46.05 | dyn | what i get is sound like analog modems do during data transfer |
| 09:48.38 | fishboy1669 | ugh that doesnt sound nice :( |
| 09:48.57 | dyn | but if the card collects the noise from the machine, why there aint no noise on the called side? |
| 09:49.47 | dyn | i guess someone with a bit more experience could easily diagnose what's that |
| 09:51.55 | X-Rob | dyn - it's called 'static' |
| 09:52.18 | dyn | X-Rob: okay.. where does it come from? |
| 09:53.06 | X-Rob | lots of places. |
| 09:53.16 | X-Rob | If you're getting fed sip, try changing the codec. |
| 09:53.31 | dyn | erm |
| 09:53.39 | dyn | only get static on voice calls |
| 09:53.56 | dyn | the only place when the isdn card is used.. |
| 09:54.00 | X-Rob | what what? what did I do? |
| 09:54.02 | X-Rob | Oh |
| 09:54.21 | X-Rob | Is it 100% static, or can you hear what the other person is saying behind it? |
| 09:54.27 | dyn | i hear it |
| 09:54.38 | dyn | about 80% static, 20% speech |
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| 09:55.32 | X-Rob | that sounds like an alaw/ulaw fubar. |
| 09:55.53 | dyn | geez i need to learn that sleng ;) |
| 09:55.57 | dyn | what is it? |
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| 09:57.07 | dyn | i get lots of java results only, lol |
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| 10:00.34 | dyn | X-Rob: so it's the card, the hisax driver, the isdn4linux stuff, asterisk config, weather, moon state or something else? |
| 10:05.01 | lehel | does anyone experienced in faxing through capi0isdn?.. |
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| 10:09.23 | X-Rob | dyn - hurm. Truly, I don't know. I've only messed with zaptel, not capi/isdn4linux |
| 10:12.05 | dyn | okay |
| 10:12.09 | dyn | thanks anyway |
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| 10:18.28 | Pete_Largo | WARNING[21331]: chan_sip.c:1842 sip_write: Asked to transmit frame type 64, while native formats is 4 (read/write = 4/4) |
| 10:18.32 | Pete_Largo | what the hell is that! |
| 10:18.55 | olivier_ | a codec problem |
| 10:19.22 | Pete_Largo | it showed up when I added exten=>s,2,Ringing() to my main menu |
| 10:19.31 | Pete_Largo | so it rang before the voice answered |
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| 10:21.09 | Pete_Largo | is Ringing() in the slin codec? that's weird |
| 10:21.10 | FABRIZIOxxx | hello.. can someone help me to check if the irq of my TDM cards are ok .. the output of /proc/interrupts is here : http://pastebin.ca/24499 |
| 10:21.21 | Pete_Largo | try lspci |
| 10:21.57 | FABRIZIOxxx | Pete_Largo, i checked and only one ogf the acrds apperas in the list with lspci -vv |
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| 10:22.36 | Pete_Largo | why in the hell is * trying to translate the Ringing() from slin to ulaw? |
| 10:24.06 | Pete_Largo | and it didn't do it on an 'external' call coming in via iax2, but it does it every time on an 'internal' call from a sip extension |
| 10:24.10 | Pete_Largo | grr |
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| 10:48.40 | Pete_Largo | anyone know the most recent and/or most stable version of *? is it 1.0.9? |
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| 10:49.35 | yoyoma | hello everyone |
| 10:50.08 | lehel | Pete_Largo.. what to know about it? |
| 10:50.22 | Pete_Largo | it that's it |
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| 10:50.50 | Pete_Largo | if it's time to upgrade |
| 10:52.57 | lehel | http://ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/asterisk-1.0.9.tar.gz |
| 10:52.57 | DiReCTOR | Pete |
| 10:53.05 | Pete_Largo | yo |
| 10:53.08 | DiReCTOR | yo |
| 10:53.30 | DiReCTOR | question regarding linux |
| 10:53.36 | Pete_Largo | uh oh |
| 10:53.53 | yoyoma | are any of you guys familiar with setuping asterisk to use vonage as a sip provider? |
| 10:54.01 | yoyoma | setting up |
| 10:54.09 | Pete_Largo | I don't think vonage allows it |
| 10:54.18 | Pete_Largo | I know broadvox does not allow it |
| 10:54.24 | Pete_Largo | broadvoice does though |
| 10:54.28 | InfraRed | did you read the wiki ? |
| 10:54.47 | Pete_Largo | no, I must confess, I haven't read it tonight |
| 10:54.52 | Pete_Largo | er |
| 10:54.53 | yoyoma | no they don't support it, but i've been looking on the forums and ppl have done it... one requirement is to subscribe to their softphone |
| 10:54.54 | Pete_Largo | this morning |
| 10:55.07 | yoyoma | yea been through the wiki |
| 10:55.09 | DiReCTOR | if we Linux RAS Server having Asterisk card and then the authenticated users can have access to WINDOWS Machine |
| 10:55.15 | sgorilla | yoyoma: im about to do it |
| 10:55.23 | DiReCTOR | if we build |
| 10:55.24 | yoyoma | sgorilla: oh yea? |
| 10:55.29 | sgorilla | yoyoma: you use an fxs card to hookup to to the linksys box |
| 10:55.41 | DiReCTOR | through LAN that is |
| 10:55.55 | InfraRed | ~docs |
| 10:55.59 | jbot | i heard docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk |
| 10:56.09 | sgorilla | yoyoma: you could reverse engineer the protocol that vonage uses and straight hookup with sip, but i would think that would violate the AUP |
| 10:56.19 | yoyoma | sgorilla: i'm trying to bypass using the ata box... i'd like to get asterisk to register directly with their servers |
| 10:56.21 | sgorilla | and it would take a lot of work, and would be subject to change in protocols |
| 10:56.24 | DiReCTOR | Pete: is it possible |
| 10:56.36 | Pete_Largo | it is possible |
| 10:56.42 | DiReCTOR | :D |
| 10:56.42 | sgorilla | yoyoma: i believe doing that would violate the TOS/AUP |
| 10:56.42 | Pete_Largo | but I don't know how to do it |
| 10:56.57 | DiReCTOR | but it is possible , think will have to use samb |
| 10:56.59 | DiReCTOR | samba |
| 10:57.02 | yoyoma | i've actually been able to connect to them and get it to work on port 5061... but i had to change that port setting in my general context of the sip.conf file |
| 10:57.05 | DiReCTOR | i will dig more |
| 10:57.08 | sgorilla | yoyoma: just buy a 15$ fxo card and hook it up |
| 10:57.34 | Pete_Largo | most likely yes |
| 10:57.45 | _omer | yoyoma: changing ports wont work until u listen to sgorilla properly |
| 10:57.52 | Pete_Largo | but like I said, I've never done it and dont know how to do it. |
| 10:58.03 | Pete_Largo | but I know it can be done |
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| 10:59.20 | yoyoma | sgorilla: i'd like to do this without a fxo card... i'm trying to avoid using the ata box |
| 10:59.46 | Pete_Largo | why are you dead set on vonage?\ |
| 11:00.12 | sgorilla | yoyoma: do you know how to reverse engineer sip, use tethereal and know how to write c socket code? |
| 11:00.20 | e3g | because of unlimited calling at low rates ;) |
| 11:00.27 | _omer | agreed! :) |
| 11:00.32 | Pete_Largo | don't forget how to crack the md5 hash of the password |
| 11:00.50 | yoyoma | pete: several reasons... as mentioend above... plus i'm doing this for someone who'd like to stick to vonage |
| 11:01.35 | Pete_Largo | broadvoice will allow an * server, and even has instruction on their support page. I'm not a fan or anything, but I don't think you will get very far trying vonage... |
| 11:01.35 | e3g | I can make it working |
| 11:02.29 | Pete_Largo | I tried with broadvox direct and it made me insane |
| 11:02.33 | Pete_Largo | I finally gave up |
| 11:02.43 | yoyoma | sgorilla: i used ethereal to find out the ports and the sip address used to connect to the vonage servers... i also have a username and password as well... |
| 11:03.05 | Pete_Largo | no I just want a fuck sample config file for the shitting DTA they sent me that I paid for but can't use now because I'm not paying for their damn service |
| 11:03.10 | yoyoma | sgorilla: itested it successfully with the free version of xlite and was able to connect and make calls |
| 11:03.13 | Pete_Largo | no == now |
| 11:03.23 | e3g | yoyoma: I think u can make it working very easily. |
| 11:03.38 | Pete_Largo | or, maybe I'm just bitter |
| 11:04.21 | yoyoma | now i used the same information to register my asterisk server as a client to the voange servers, but have not been successful |
| 11:05.46 | e3g | yoyoma: do you have any question or just the explanations? |
| 11:06.06 | _omer | :) |
| 11:06.32 | e3g | right omer? |
| 11:06.41 | _omer | left... |
| 11:06.48 | e3g | lol |
| 11:06.55 | _omer | ;) |
| 11:07.03 | yoyoma | e3g: i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong. so i guess my question is if someone here knows how to do it? i've got a posting in the forum... |
| 11:08.17 | yoyoma | e3g: http://www.voipuser.org/forum_topic_2179.html |
| 11:08.26 | yoyoma | the last posting there is mine |
| 11:08.37 | RoyK | morning, morons |
| 11:08.45 | e3g | read pvt |
| 11:08.56 | e3g | what I pasted there |
| 11:19.13 | Pete_Largo | didn't you just go to bed RoyK? |
| 11:24.57 | RoyK | Pete_Largo: time's 13:24 CEST |
| 11:24.58 | RoyK | Pete_Largo: so, no |
| 11:25.08 | Pete_Largo | CEST? |
| 11:25.28 | Pete_Largo | I'm on 07:25 EST here |
| 11:25.30 | RoyK | central european summer time |
| 11:25.36 | Pete_Largo | ah |
| 11:25.37 | Pete_Largo | I see |
| 11:25.43 | Pete_Largo | must have been a different Roy |
| 11:26.02 | Pete_Largo | or maybe I'm imagining things due to sleep deprivation? |
| 11:29.26 | Druken | sleep deprivation and thought don't go hand in hand... which is why after falling asleep ontop of a server at 6am, you figure out what the problem is... |
| 11:29.52 | Pete_Largo | I thought that was osmosis |
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| 11:31.19 | Druken | no.. that's what water does :) |
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| 11:33.27 | Druken | [07:10] <RoyK> morning, morons |
| 11:33.32 | Druken | good morning roy... |
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| 11:58.35 | FABRIZIOxxx | just a question .. if i have a tdm04b and three other hardware items on the smae irq (11) can it cause big problems?? |
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| 12:01.38 | tzanger | FABRIZIOxxx: yes indeed it can |
| 12:01.41 | X-Rob | not 'big' problems, but yes it might cause you grief. |
| 12:01.46 | tzanger | FABRIZIOxxx: depends on the system and what the other devices are |
| 12:02.11 | tzanger | FABRIZIOxxx: 90% of the time you can compile your kernel with io-apic support and it properly reroutes those IRQs and gives you freedom |
| 12:02.11 | FABRIZIOxxx | oh hello tzanger .. |
| 12:02.27 | tzanger | the other 10% of the time it's craptastic motherboards that have the io-apic but STILL physically routed everything together :-( |
| 12:03.13 | FABRIZIOxxx | anyway .. i think the prob is that i have 5 devices sharing the same IRQ |
| 12:03.38 | FABRIZIOxxx | tzanger, do you mind examining my lspci outoput ..? |
| 12:03.53 | Zeeek | don't you neeed a license to do that? |
| 12:04.13 | tzanger | FABRIZIOxxx: I can't tell you much with that |
| 12:05.38 | tzanger | you already know that you have the devices on the same IRQ |
| 12:05.49 | FABRIZIOxxx | tzanger, ok .. just one more question .. i installed a network monitor .. i can see that my * server is using from 10-20 Kb/S .. is that too much for a 100 mbit lan?? |
| 12:05.49 | tzanger | recompile your kernel with ioapic support turned on and see if that corrects the problem |
| 12:06.25 | FABRIZIOxxx | ok i'll try straight away |
| 12:06.49 | tzanger | your 100mbit lan can handle (theoretically) 100 million bits per second wirespeed, which is 12.5 megabytes per second (wire speed) |
| 12:07.07 | tzanger | you need to subtract off ethernet frame headers and tcp/ip headers to get actual payload datarate but no |
| 12:07.12 | tzanger | 20kb/sec is nothing |
| 12:07.17 | FABRIZIOxxx | ok thks .. i got to that result too but i wanted to be sure ..!! |
| 12:07.27 | tzanger | unless your switching hardware or network cards are total crap |
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| 12:09.04 | mjmac | has anyone had much experience with * on openwrt? i get segfaults when using rsa auth for iax2 friends/peers |
| 12:09.39 | mjmac | er, users/peers |
| 12:12.49 | synthetiq | does vociemail allow u to dial #s during the greeting |
| 12:13.03 | X-Rob | mjmac - probably the lack of floating point is causing it grief |
| 12:13.05 | synthetiq | to be transfered soemwhere |
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| 12:13.59 | mjmac | X-Rob: yeah, i suspect it's something along those lines, but i hadn't nailed it down yet. there don't seem to be enough people using it to make good googlefodder, either. |
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| 12:23.25 | Zeeek | show channels |
| 12:24.07 | RoyK | kill slowly Zeeek |
| 12:24.30 | Zeeek | shit I have a channel blocked all morning |
| 12:24.52 | iDunno | because someone is using it? or because someone hasn't hungup correctly? |
| 12:25.58 | Zeeek | I was testing something and I hung up and picked up to make a call too quickly. The telcom dial tone was on hold for 3 hours :) |
| 12:26.36 | iDunno | heh - doh. |
| 12:27.11 | Zeeek | well, at least I was peaceful all morning |
| 12:32.31 | mjmac | X-Rob: do you use * on openwrt, or did you just happen to come across that info in your travels? |
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| 12:37.47 | Darwin35 | Wake up |
| 12:37.52 | Darwin35 | its Monday |
| 12:38.07 | Darwin35 | time to get your ass to work and bay the bills bitch |
| 12:38.17 | Darwin35 | the gas and electric are due |
| 12:38.46 | Darwin35 | the children need thier shots |
| 12:39.04 | Darwin35 | and I need new outfits |
| 12:41.26 | razu | is there any way to give bash commands on extensions.conf ? |
| 12:42.02 | Darwin35 | Systen() |
| 12:42.07 | Darwin35 | System() |
| 12:42.17 | razu | hmm |
| 12:42.43 | Darwin35 | I believe only in head |
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| 12:46.16 | gordonjcp | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.36 | gordonjcp | Darwin35: simple answer is to live somewhere that doesn't have a third-world level medical system |
| 12:47.11 | Darwin35 | talking about the dogs |
| 12:47.31 | gordonjcp | ah |
| 12:47.32 | Darwin35 | I have no children other then my 2 dogs and a ferrit |
| 12:47.49 | gordonjcp | don't you have pet insurance? |
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| 12:48.10 | Darwin35 | still have to pay for the shots not covered |
| 12:48.22 | gordonjcp | but that was mainly because he keeps eating stuff he shouldn't |
| 12:48.29 | gordonjcp | like next door's mastiff |
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| 12:48.51 | gordonjcp | I pay a damn sight more to fix other people's animals... |
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| 12:49.09 | Darwin35 | no the abay josh is only 6 months old he needs shots |
| 12:49.14 | gordonjcp | yeah |
| 12:49.20 | Darwin35 | the older one is ok |
| 12:49.22 | gordonjcp | they get cheaper to run once they get older |
| 12:49.32 | Darwin35 | and the ferrit is all update already |
| 12:50.37 | Darwin35 | thankgod Denver allows ferrits |
| 12:50.38 | KeX_WorX | hi |
| 12:50.46 | gordonjcp | ferrets? |
| 12:50.46 | KeX_WorX | any1 using minisip and asterisk ? |
| 12:50.59 | gordonjcp | what do you mean, "allows ferrets"? |
| 12:51.05 | Darwin35 | yess sorry brain not fully loaded yet |
| 12:51.20 | Darwin35 | some states dont allow ferrets as pets |
| 12:51.23 | gordonjcp | wtf? |
| 12:51.28 | gordonjcp | why not? |
| 12:51.47 | Darwin35 | California has a law AZ has a law neveada has a law |
| 12:52.16 | Darwin35 | Mass IN MI NB |
| 12:52.22 | Darwin35 | all have the law to |
| 12:52.38 | Darwin35 | saying they are a hazard to the enviroment |
| 12:54.48 | Darwin35 | such is life |
| 12:55.21 | Darwin35 | I need to work on the Asterisk-BSD website today |
| 12:55.38 | RoyK | asterisk os/2 website... |
| 12:55.55 | Darwin35 | hahah |
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| 13:12.19 | Badenser | Hello together ... does anyone here have experiences with multiple numbers in a GMX account? |
| 13:12.59 | Badenser | I always get a "handle_response: Failed to authenticate on INVITE to .." error on outgoing calls |
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| 13:16.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | GMX? |
| 13:17.53 | Badenser | gmx.de |
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| 13:20.49 | SarahEmm | hihi |
| 13:21.08 | FABRIZIOxxx | tzanger, sorry to disturb .. but i found out that i need CTR21 as opermode for my card .. the point is that with 2,6 kernels, command line parameters are ignored .. how can i pass this param .. i tried with options wcfxo opermode=CTR21 in modprobe.conf but the module will not load .. |
| 13:22.09 | tzanger | why are you command line parameters ignored? Mine arent... I'm running 2.6.13 |
| 13:22.21 | tzanger | I told you you needed CTR21 :-) |
| 13:22.30 | FABRIZIOxxx | from asterisk wiki: IMPORTANT 2.6.x kernels will ignore a parameter typed on the command line. You need to add |
| 13:22.32 | tzanger | do you have an old/bad version of module-init-tools? |
| 13:22.41 | tzanger | the wiki is wrong |
| 13:22.44 | FABRIZIOxxx | tis the original one from slack 10.2 |
| 13:22.54 | tzanger | at least I believe it is since mine are working properly |
| 13:22.59 | FABRIZIOxxx | well .. i tried and the mod always loads as FCC |
| 13:23.06 | FABRIZIOxxx | and not CTR21 |
| 13:23.13 | tzanger | well do what the wiki says then I suppose |
| 13:23.21 | FABRIZIOxxx | ok .. thks |
| 13:23.32 | gordonjcp | Darwin35: that's insane, it's a ferret ffs |
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| 13:23.53 | jhiver | hi all |
| 13:24.13 | jhiver | anybody alive and kicking on the chan? |
| 13:24.23 | SarahEmm | a number of us jhiver |
| 13:24.24 | Zeeek | nah |
| 13:24.29 | jhiver | ah cool :) |
| 13:25.09 | jhiver | I was wondering if there would be any drawbacks dialing more than one IP provider at a time to reduce PDD when doing outbound calls |
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| 13:25.49 | brookshire | yawn.. |
| 13:25.54 | jhiver | So badically doing Dial(<voipjet_string>&<nufone_string>&<other_provider_string>) |
| 13:26.10 | razu | is there any workaround for ${DIALEDPEERNUM} ??? |
| 13:26.15 | jhiver | brookshire, I didn't know the question was so dull :) |
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| 13:27.27 | johnm | jhiver: PDD? |
| 13:27.33 | jhiver | post dialing delay |
| 13:27.36 | johnm | ah |
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| 13:27.58 | brookshire | :) |
| 13:28.47 | SarahEmm | silly overloaded acronyms :) |
| 13:28.55 | brookshire | sarah! |
| 13:29.08 | SarahEmm | hihi brookshire! meow! |
| 13:29.30 | brookshire | who me? |
| 13:29.35 | SarahEmm | err no |
| 13:29.35 | SarahEmm | me! |
| 13:29.41 | brookshire | ahh.. |
| 13:29.53 | brookshire | i've been pretty busy.. no time for chat |
| 13:30.03 | jhiver | well, stuff like PDD and ASR is pretty standard ;) |
| 13:30.05 | SarahEmm | but now back to * |
| 13:30.44 | SarahEmm | jhiver: i read 'pervasive developmental disorder' and 'automatic system reset' |
| 13:31.06 | jhiver | SarahEmm, lol :) |
| 13:32.38 | SarahEmm | but i deal with the meanings i gave a lot more often than i deal with the telco meanings :) |
| 13:32.49 | *** join/#asterisk brent21 (n=Brent21@70.88.149.221) |
| 13:32.52 | SarahEmm | anyone here using snom phones? wondering how they compare to polycoms... |
| 13:32.59 | SarahEmm | they're similarly priced but don't look as good.. |
| 13:33.41 | brent21 | I can tell you Polycoms are quite good |
| 13:33.58 | brent21 | I have deployed the IP300's and 500s |
| 13:34.03 | SarahEmm | *nods* |
| 13:34.06 | SarahEmm | i'm leaning toward them |
| 13:34.08 | brookshire | they look nice too :) |
| 13:34.13 | SarahEmm | do you know the difference between 500 and 501? |
| 13:34.16 | brookshire | the polycoms |
| 13:34.17 | brent21 | yeah, 500 looks like a good business phone |
| 13:34.26 | brent21 | there is a good amount of support in the asterisk community for them |
| 13:34.27 | SarahEmm | the difference on polycom's site is the 500 says 'speakerphone' and 501 says 'full duplex speakerphone' |
| 13:34.34 | SarahEmm | but then it looks like the 500 actually has the FDX too |
| 13:34.35 | Zeeek | brent21 can I configure the ip500 to not use the * and # keys to chane case/num ? |
| 13:34.51 | Zeeek | *. #@ |
| 13:34.59 | Zeeek | homeoff |
| 13:35.11 | Zeeek | wrong windo that last bit |
| 13:35.12 | sivana | has anyone upgraded the IP500 before? |
| 13:35.22 | brent21 | Zeeek not sure |
| 13:35.27 | brent21 | im sure you can with dialplan logic |
| 13:35.35 | brent21 | Sivana, i have plenty of times |
| 13:35.43 | brent21 | the speakerphone on the 500 is good |
| 13:35.44 | Zeeek | I messed with it but it seems hardwired |
| 13:35.49 | brent21 | havent used the 501 yet |
| 13:35.58 | sivana | brent21: where do I find the firmware, and where are the instructions? |
| 13:36.01 | Zeeek | you have to wait 1 sec to send ** for example |
| 13:36.17 | sivana | brent21: I've sent them email over a week ago, no response |
| 13:36.19 | brent21 | sivana, good place to start is www.voip-info.org |
| 13:36.22 | SarahEmm | aha! found it! |
| 13:36.29 | sivana | brent21: for Polycom? |
| 13:36.32 | brent21 | sivana, Polycom does not support asterisk |
| 13:36.33 | SarahEmm | the 501 has twice the flash of the 500 :) |
| 13:36.40 | SarahEmm | the 500 won't support newer firmware images |
| 13:36.45 | sivana | bah |
| 13:36.49 | sivana | for real? |
| 13:36.56 | brent21 | sivana, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Polycom+Phones |
| 13:37.07 | sivana | brent21: I don't think we're talking the same thing |
| 13:37.18 | SarahEmm | ahh. the 500 doesn't even support *current* firmware. |
| 13:37.36 | brent21 | thats where I get all my firmware updates for the 500 |
| 13:37.57 | brent21 | There is a link to an external site that contains all the bootroms and sip vers |
| 13:37.59 | *** join/#asterisk nfi|ermes (n=ermsewrk@217.220.121.62) |
| 13:38.05 | nfi|ermes | hi all |
| 13:38.08 | Zeeek | SarahEmm what's the last firm supported by the 500 ? |
| 13:38.56 | sivana | brent21: only available to certified resellers? |
| 13:39.21 | jhiver | so about dialing many providers at once for the same number? possible drawbacks? |
| 13:39.21 | brent21 | Zeek, see http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Polycom+Phones, there is a clarification on the bootrom /sipvers |
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| 13:39.37 | brent21 | sivana, yes, ans asteirsk is not an officially support platform |
| 13:39.44 | brent21 | so you have to hack together your own stuff |
| 13:39.45 | nfi|ermes | Oct 3 15:23:10 DEBUG[1302] chan_sip.c: Auto destroying call <--- anyone knows what it can be ? |
| 13:39.47 | Insanity5 | Has anyone unlocked the pap2 yet using the recent trick out there? |
| 13:39.50 | brent21 | which isnt hard since sip is an open standard |
| 13:39.54 | Zeeek | k thx |
| 13:39.57 | sivana | I don't care about *.. I'm just talking about updating the latest firmware |
| 13:40.00 | SarahEmm | there's a recent trick Insanity5? |
| 13:40.15 | brent21 | sivana, did you go to the link I pasted in the window? |
| 13:40.20 | sivana | yup |
| 13:40.21 | Insanity5 | SarahEmm - yes |
| 13:40.25 | Insanity5 | SarahEmm - http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14450684 |
| 13:40.36 | sivana | taken me to the Polycom Resource Center |
| 13:40.50 | brent21 | hmm, actually looks like the link was removed |
| 13:40.51 | brent21 | strange |
| 13:40.53 | SplasPood | I have this locked ATA186... it'd be nice if there was a trick for that.. |
| 13:40.59 | Insanity5 | SarahEmm - I have a pile of 7 of them I pickedu p free after mail in rebate. I did 3 at work, deleted the "hacked" firmware, and got hoem and found out that they had to have it removed. I still need to file for the rest. |
| 13:41.17 | Insanity5 | SplasPood - These used to be, and it may still work if it has never been used on vonage (archaic firmware revision). |
| 13:41.28 | SplasPood | Insanity5: yea I know that one.. def too new |
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| 13:42.07 | Insanity5 | so nobodies unlocked any pap2s? :) |
| 13:42.32 | nfi|ermes | Oct 3 15:23:10 DEBUG[1302] chan_sip.c: Auto destroying call <--- anyone knows what it can be the reason? |
| 13:42.52 | SarahEmm | nope Insanity5. i'd love to be able to tho :) |
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| 13:45.21 | Insanity5 | SarahEmm - well go to that url =) |
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| 13:45.44 | brent21 | Anyone have any experience w/ ordering PRI's? |
| 13:46.38 | SarahEmm | Insanity5: i did. no firmware there tho |
| 13:46.54 | Zeeek | if A=hello and B2=world shouldbn't $[${A}${B]] be hellowworld ? |
| 13:47.14 | Zeeek | no wait... |
| 13:47.25 | Insanity5 | SarahEmm - There's instructions on how to "make" your own, but it's very complicated. |
| 13:47.31 | Zeeek | I need it to be ${helloworld} |
| 13:47.38 | jlewis | I had something odd happen this morning. 2 peers disappeared from iax2 show peers. They're in the iax.conf, qualify=no, and the iax.conf hasn't been changed for weeks. a reload in the CLI brought them back. How could that have happened? This is with cvs-stable from 9-27-05 |
| 13:48.34 | NiHo | ${${A}${B}} |
| 13:49.22 | Zeeek | no [] ? |
| 13:50.05 | NiHo | just use { it works fine |
| 13:50.09 | jlewis | ah...forget about it... I see what happened now from the messages file |
| 13:50.42 | jlewis | chan_iax needs to be whacked upside the head with a DNS-clue-stick |
| 13:51.14 | jlewis | just because a hostname fails to resolve at time T, doesn't mean it won't at time T+x where x is hours or days |
| 13:52.08 | *** join/#asterisk Sk3tCh (n=wrickout@86.127.41.114) |
| 13:52.12 | Sk3tCh | hi |
| 13:52.42 | Sk3tCh | i have problem with mp3player |
| 13:53.13 | Sk3tCh | dont play the sound |
| 13:53.33 | Sk3tCh | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.34 | Sk3tCh | Oct 3 17:03:16 NOTICE[16630]: app_mp3.c:91 timed_read: Poll timed out/errored out with 0 |
| 13:53.34 | Sk3tCh | Oct 3 17:03:16 NOTICE[16630]: channel.c:1736 ast_set_read_format: Unable to find a path from g723 to ulaw |
| 13:53.34 | Sk3tCh | Oct 3 17:03:16 NOTICE[16630]: channel.c:1703 ast_set_write_format: Unable to find a path from ulaw to g723 |
| 13:53.34 | Sk3tCh | Oct 3 17:03:26 WARNING[16630]: pbx.c:1948 ast_pbx_run: Timeout, but no rule 't' in context 'default' |
| 13:53.36 | Sk3tCh | 'a'a'a |
| 13:53.42 | Sk3tCh | sorri |
| 13:53.49 | Sk3tCh | http://pastebin.ca/24511 |
| 13:53.52 | Sk3tCh | the link |
| 13:53.56 | wasim_ | Sk3tCh: pretty evident the issues |
| 13:54.03 | redax | hangposta ;-) |
| 13:54.18 | wasim_ | you don't have g723, and you don't have exten => t,1,blah in [default] |
| 13:54.31 | synthetiq | im having problems gettign phones to resgister...they were all registered and workign properly before, but i just did a restart and now they wont register...any ideas? |
| 13:54.51 | Delvar | firewall? |
| 13:55.11 | synthetiq | no firewall |
| 13:55.23 | Delvar | usingstatic or DHCP ipa ddress? |
| 13:55.57 | synthetiq | dhcp |
| 13:56.04 | Sk3tCh | wasim: its the 122 exten |
| 13:56.15 | Sk3tCh | what should i do to get g723 codec? |
| 13:56.54 | wasim_ | Sk3tCh: write out a cheque for $1M |
| 13:56.59 | synthetiq | this is jsut so random |
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| 14:05.26 | Zeeek | quit |
| 14:05.30 | Zeeek | leave |
| 14:05.34 | Zeeek | arrest |
| 14:05.36 | Zeeek | stop |
| 14:05.38 | SarahEmm | Zeeek? |
| 14:05.48 | Zeeek | depart gracefully |
| 14:05.52 | olivier_ | :) |
| 14:06.02 | SarahEmm | ... |
| 14:06.25 | bjohnson | synthetiq: they devices will have a time set for reregister attempts. Likely they think they are registered if they successfully registered on their last attempt. Try restarting one of the devices |
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| 14:06.57 | fugitivo | morning |
| 14:07.46 | drbrown_ | has anyone had an 80gb seagate sata hd show up under a partition manager as having all 80gb of free space????? |
| 14:08.33 | SarahEmm | no, why drbrown_? |
| 14:08.50 | SarahEmm | wait, partition manager? |
| 14:08.56 | SarahEmm | maybe, depends how you mean '80gb' :) |
| 14:09.50 | Delvar | does it have any partitions setup? |
| 14:09.55 | drbrown_ | SarahEmm: Partiton manager in Debian, when you go to install the OS, and 80GB would typically show up as 74.5Gb not 80 GB |
| 14:10.12 | Delvar | oh |
| 14:10.18 | SarahEmm | drbrown_: *shrug* i'm not sure. i don't use debian :) |
| 14:10.48 | Sk3tCh | next problem http://rafb.net/paste/results/mv7Evf42.html |
| 14:11.39 | *** join/#asterisk phpboy (n=shane@c1-91-16.rndf.isadsl.co.za) |
| 14:12.02 | RoyK | Sk3tCh: why do you use mp3s? |
| 14:12.32 | Delvar | gsm doesnt play too well on my mp3 player |
| 14:12.33 | phpboy | When I dial my ISDN number... these are the msg's I get on my CLi... what could be the problem? ->> http://pastebin.ca/24513 |
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| 14:15.17 | fugitivo | drbrown_: use fdisk |
| 14:15.21 | *** part/#asterisk brent21 (n=Brent21@70.88.149.221) |
| 14:15.37 | fugitivo | drbrown_: and read the cylinders |
| 14:16.10 | drbrown_ | I would love to use fdisk, and I think it is a geometry problem, but I can't find a good guide on learning fdisk. I am a newbie in "some" repects |
| 14:16.18 | synthetiq | bjohnso we restarted teh devies but no luck |
| 14:16.24 | synthetiq | bjohnson |
| 14:16.25 | fugitivo | drbrown_: it's easy |
| 14:16.39 | fugitivo | drbrown_: just use p, n and w |
| 14:16.51 | phpboy | When I dial my ISDN number... these are the msg's I get on my CLi... what could be the problem? ->> http://pastebin.ca/24513 |
| 14:17.48 | olivier_ | <drbrown_> fdisk yourdevice. Enter m after for help. Just need to read :) |
| 14:18.04 | azzie | phpboy, your call does not seem to hit your ISDN line |
| 14:18.23 | phpboy | but when I make the call... that's what happens on my CLI... |
| 14:18.27 | phpboy | :/ |
| 14:19.09 | azzie | phpboy, actually you cut the last frame which is most important :) |
| 14:19.10 | RoyK | azzie: there's a SETUP there at the end |
| 14:19.20 | RoyK | the RRs aren't important |
| 14:19.23 | RoyK | the SETUP message is |
| 14:19.23 | azzie | RoyK, yeah... half of it :) i noticed now |
| 14:19.52 | olivier_ | <phpboy> you dont have paste the return of your provider after the setup like call disconnect for sample |
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| 14:20.18 | *** join/#asterisk lnwlf (n=lnwlf@208.255.225.67) |
| 14:20.30 | olivier_ | and u don't have paste all the setup mesage too |
| 14:23.00 | jero | hello |
| 14:23.54 | xheliox | Question.. one Asterisk box calls another, but when someone inputs an extension, the calling Asterisk box intercepts it, rather than passing it to the called box... is there some switch or technique to prevent this? |
| 14:24.20 | phpboy | azzie: the very last line? |
| 14:24.52 | azzie | phpboy, make another call and make a better and more complete capture |
| 14:25.16 | phpboy | ok, no problem |
| 14:25.49 | johnm | xheliox: You can change how a call is handled based on the context the call comes from, or maybe just on how the number is formatted. |
| 14:26.01 | bjohnson | synthetiq: if you had a working system and now it isn't, something has changed. Review everything. Start by checking lan cables, switches, etc to make sure data is getting through |
| 14:28.37 | malverian[work] | Wow.. there are some weird bugs with subscriptions/notified in chan_sip :-P |
| 14:28.55 | malverian[work] | I think it might not just be with subscriptions and notifies though... |
| 14:29.25 | malverian[work] | Call destruction timers don't get removed when you reload the module, but the calls do get removed. Which I think results in double-frees or something. |
| 14:29.32 | malverian[work] | So what happens is.. |
| 14:29.37 | malverian[work] | 1. Schedule call destruction |
| 14:29.39 | *** join/#asterisk firestorm-voip (n=firestor@62-181-86-226.skbbip.com) |
| 14:29.43 | malverian[work] | 2. Clear out call list |
| 14:29.50 | malverian[work] | 3. Timer goes of to destroy call "xyz" |
| 14:32.37 | drbrown_ | fugitivo: will fdisk assist in fixing problems with geometry???? |
| 14:33.18 | fugitivo | drbrown_: you can change the geometry with fdisk, good luck |
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| 14:33.49 | drbrown_ | fugitivo: what do you mean by "good luck" |
| 14:35.31 | fugitivo | drbrown_: fdisk /dev/whatever, p to see your hard drive information, check the heads, sectos and cylinders, it should be the same info as you see in the back of your hard drive |
| 14:35.47 | fugitivo | drbrown_: if it's not, press x for expert mode, and you can change the geometry |
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| 14:45.09 | JoseHap | hi |
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| 14:45.20 | JoseHap | question about RedHat and HFC cards |
| 14:45.26 | *** join/#asterisk IPmonger (n=ipmonger@pcp0010577106pcs.coatsv01.pa.comcast.net) |
| 14:45.33 | JoseHap | anyone knows ho to make it working with 2.6 and udev ? |
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| 14:47.10 | Essobi | How do people normally do many-endpoing to many-endpoint routing with SER? |
| 14:47.17 | Essobi | endpoint even. |
| 14:49.00 | gordonjcp | poing poing poing pong |
| 14:49.45 | Hmmhesays | annie are you ok, are you ok, you ok annie? |
| 14:49.54 | Badenser | could you please have a look at http://pastebin.com/381598 ... ? |
| 14:49.59 | Hmmhesays | you've been hit by, you've been struck by a smooth criminal |
| 14:50.28 | Badenser | calling via out2 works fine ... out1 not |
| 14:50.35 | SarahEmm | define 'not'? |
| 14:50.58 | Badenser | I always get a "handle_response: Failed to authenticate on INVITE to .." error on outgoing calls |
| 14:55.06 | Badenser | any idea? |
| 14:55.30 | SarahEmm | not offhand, other than making sure you have the right auth information.. sowwy =/ |
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| 15:02.02 | mjr^^ | anyone plzz suggest me a channel wher i can get solution for hacktool.rootkit and dyfuca |
| 15:02.19 | SarahEmm | this isn't the place to ask... |
| 15:03.11 | *** join/#asterisk wwalker (n=wwalker@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/wwalker) |
| 15:04.03 | mjr^^ | but plzz suggest me any other place |
| 15:04.17 | mjr^^ | i am totally drowning becoz of this |
| 15:04.27 | SarahEmm | i don't know any other place. |
| 15:04.28 | mjr^^ | :( |
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| 15:05.13 | wwalker | I'm getting the message "No application 'Dial' for extension (default, 18779773339, 1)" and my line in extensions.conf is "exten => 18779773339,1,Dial(SIP/starvox/15123887777)" What am I doing wrong? |
| 15:05.51 | fordvoice | X-Rob How is the little one |
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| 15:06.51 | wwalker | I've tried "show applications" and Dial isn't showing up. Should it? Or does it show up somewhere else? |
| 15:06.52 | jake1932 | what happens when you do show application dial? |
| 15:07.15 | jake1932 | wwalker: Dial should show up as an application |
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| 15:07.50 | drbrown_ | fugitivo: thank you very much |
| 15:08.24 | azzie | wwalker, go to modules.conf and add a line -- load => app_dial.so |
| 15:10.51 | fordvoice | I got a ? for you Egg Heads |
| 15:11.32 | fordvoice | I am running ASTCC on 1 server I made a Norton Ghost of it. Put that drive intoanother server |
| 15:11.44 | fordvoice | disabled all the regies |
| 15:12.02 | fordvoice | I am trying to add Spanish IVR to this ASTCC |
| 15:12.06 | fordvoice | on the other server |
| 15:12.18 | fordvoice | but I need to find the IVR first |
| 15:12.28 | fordvoice | cant seem to find Calling Card IVR for ASTCC |
| 15:12.38 | fordvoice | WHat do I do |
| 15:12.46 | Hmmhesays | heh, look in the source for the file names |
| 15:13.00 | Hmmhesays | found on road dead? or first on race day? |
| 15:13.08 | fordvoice | hahaha |
| 15:13.12 | fordvoice | Heard it |
| 15:13.18 | fordvoice | before |
| 15:13.35 | Hmmhesays | no shit, you'd have to live in a cave to not have heard that |
| 15:13.38 | Hmmhesays | or have no friends |
| 15:13.42 | fordvoice | hahah |
| 15:14.00 | wwalker | azzie, jake1932, |
| 15:14.04 | wwalker | Thanks!! |
| 15:14.35 | Nivex | Backwards it's "Driver Returns On Foot" |
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| 15:16.30 | fiber0pti | Does anyone have an experience with showing more lines on an IP phone than there are line appearance buttons? |
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| 15:25.51 | tdonahue | hi all, can anyone point me toward a working configuration for a Cisco router connecting to a asterisk server via SIP? |
| 15:26.26 | fordvoice | Just done that the other day |
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| 15:30.27 | loud | tdonahue, as a client or a gateway |
| 15:31.53 | tdonahue | i believe it is a gateway, this is actually one of our clients that is trying to do this and I don't have any Cisco hardware to test it on |
| 15:32.13 | tdonahue | he has a channel bank and is trying to route calls through our server |
| 15:32.17 | fiber0pti | What exactly does "Line Appearance" mean for an IP phone. Example: Polycom 500/501 have 3 line appearances. Does that mean that it can only be configured with 3 lines that don't change? What if there are 6 lines, how would someone access the other 3? |
| 15:32.28 | loud | so as a client, |
| 15:32.49 | loud | how many voiceports |
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| 15:32.57 | msw | fiber0pti: that means that you can have 3 phone calls going on at the same ime |
| 15:33.19 | msw | fiber0pti: place line 1 on hold, pick up line 2, conference them together (in the phone), etc |
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| 15:34.20 | fiber0pti | msw: ok, can you elaborate on your example of being able to "pick up line2".. if it's a 3 line appearance phone, how can someone pick up line 6? |
| 15:34.37 | msw | fiber0pti: sorry, bad phrasing |
| 15:34.42 | Qwell | there is no line 6 |
| 15:34.48 | Qwell | if it only has 3 appearances |
| 15:34.49 | msw | fiber0pti: you might have 6 extensions going to the phone |
| 15:34.59 | SarahEmm | fiber0pti: it's not a key system, it's a PBX. so the 'line appearances' don't correspond to outgoing lines |
| 15:35.04 | msw | fiber0pti: but when the first call comes in, it uses appearence 1 |
| 15:35.20 | Qwell | msw: that isn't entirely true |
| 15:35.25 | tdonahue | loud, they are trying to aggregate outgoing traffic through our asterisk server, i don't know if that is a client or gateway in cisco terms |
| 15:35.25 | msw | fiber0pti: if another comes in (while you're still on call 1), it comes in on appearence 2 |
| 15:35.26 | Qwell | msw: It could be 3 seperate accounts |
| 15:35.34 | msw | Qwell: I'm trying to simplify |
| 15:36.00 | fiber0pti | msw: so is it just an internal policy change of how the company works? Right now the receptionist trys to calls the person on their phone, if they aren't there they page and say "Mr. Smith you have a call on line 4". Are those days over? What is the new way to do it? |
| 15:36.12 | Qwell | fiber0pti: That is a key system |
| 15:36.18 | msw | fiber0pti: oh thank goodness those days are done |
| 15:36.23 | Qwell | fiber0pti: The receptionist would say "Mr. Smith...answer your damn phone." |
| 15:36.23 | fiber0pti | hehe.. |
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| 15:36.41 | Qwell | or you could use call parking |
| 15:36.46 | Qwell | "Mr. Smith, call on park 4" |
| 15:37.02 | fiber0pti | gotcha.. basically "park" the call on their phone so it shows on one of their line appearances? |
| 15:37.02 | Darwin35 | IVR have the system answer the line and then if the person is on the phone transfer it to the next person or put it right into voice,\mail |
| 15:37.07 | Qwell | fiber0pti: no |
| 15:37.18 | Darwin35 | the days of inhouse operators is coming to a end |
| 15:37.22 | Qwell | fiber0pti: it gets parked on the pbx, and the user would call the pbx to unpark the call |
| 15:37.48 | fiber0pti | qwell, could you be more specific? I don't really understand that.. call a specific extension to get the call? |
| 15:37.49 | msw | fiber0pti: parking happens in the pbx - it allows anyone to retrieve a call that has been parked |
| 15:37.58 | Qwell | fiber0pti: look at call parking on the wiki |
| 15:38.01 | msw | fiber0pti: that's basically right |
| 15:38.01 | fiber0pti | k.. |
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| 15:39.09 | fiber0pti | ohh.. I see.. so the call is parked and the user can dial that extension from any phone to pick it up |
| 15:39.42 | fiber0pti | so if there is still a receptionist they would say mr. smith you have a parked call at xxx.. right? |
| 15:39.47 | Darwin35 | a call is parked on the first avaible nmbr . it will play back the exten nmbr its parked on to you |
| 15:39.50 | Qwell | fiber0pti: basically |
| 15:40.09 | Darwin35 | then you call the intercaom and announce terri call on 702 terri 702 |
| 15:40.17 | fiber0pti | nod.. |
| 15:40.19 | Darwin35 | terri dials 702 to pick up the call |
| 15:40.25 | fiber0pti | think I got it now.. thanks guys |
| 15:40.42 | fiber0pti | I'm finding it hard to explain the changes to people within the office.. |
| 15:40.56 | fiber0pti | they are so used to the 6 line appearances on their phones |
| 15:41.08 | Darwin35 | train 3 people then have them train 3 people and so on and soforth |
| 15:41.17 | Qwell | Darwin35: train the trainer, eh? |
| 15:41.23 | fiber0pti | haha |
| 15:41.30 | Nivex | viral training.... I like it :) |
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| 15:43.46 | Darwin35 | I find teaching small groups and then making them do training of others really works over large groups who tend to become chatty Kathies |
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| 15:44.12 | szer | bye everyone |
| 15:44.22 | Darwin35 | bye coome homo soon |
| 15:44.27 | Katty | hi lads. |
| 15:44.32 | Darwin35 | Katty |
| 15:44.36 | Katty | i've come to annoy you. |
| 15:44.49 | FuriousGeorge | mornin all |
| 15:44.50 | Katty | Darwin35: yes? |
| 15:44.54 | Qwell | great, her again? |
| 15:44.58 | Qwell | I mean,, |
| 15:45.00 | Katty | Qwell: yes, her again. |
| 15:45.06 | Qwell | ;] |
| 15:45.08 | Darwin35 | annoy away we miss you your bitching and battering |
| 15:45.13 | SarahEmm | kattttyyyyyy |
| 15:45.14 | Katty | Darwin35: excellent. |
| 15:45.17 | Katty | SARAH! |
| 15:45.22 | SarahEmm | hihiihhihii! |
| 15:45.24 | SarahEmm | *is glomped* |
| 15:45.26 | SarahEmm | *tips over* |
| 15:45.28 | SarahEmm | *mews* |
| 15:45.31 | SarahEmm | how's katty? |
| 15:45.35 | Katty | :>>>>>>>>>> |
| 15:45.42 | Katty | all happy and bouncy now. |
| 15:45.45 | SarahEmm | Yay! |
| 15:45.46 | SarahEmm | whyfor? |
| 15:45.49 | Katty | you |
| 15:46.01 | SarahEmm | meep! |
| 15:46.06 | SarahEmm | *mews at katty kitrichly* |
| 15:46.11 | Katty | (((= |
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| 15:46.46 | FuriousGeorge | for a second i thought i was in #theladiesroom |
| 15:47.06 | FuriousGeorge | was about to excuse myself :) |
| 15:47.11 | Katty | FuriousGeorge: nah. we refrained from hugging, etc. |
| 15:47.16 | FuriousGeorge | lol |
| 15:47.29 | Katty | and catching up on teh latest gossip |
| 15:47.44 | FuriousGeorge | Katty: my bad, i thought a glomp was a hug |
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| 15:47.51 | Katty | FuriousGeorge: oh, right. |
| 15:47.59 | Katty | FuriousGeorge: we avoided the gossip then. |
| 15:48.07 | FuriousGeorge | lol |
| 15:48.22 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 15:48.24 | FuriousGeorge | saved that for /msg |
| 15:48.28 | Katty | naturally |
| 15:48.43 | FuriousGeorge | there is still something to be said for tact |
| 15:48.58 | Katty | tact? what's that? |
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| 15:49.18 | Katty | a new asterisk mod? |
| 15:49.30 | Katty | i see, i see. |
| 15:49.35 | FuriousGeorge | thumbtacts |
| 15:49.44 | FuriousGeorge | to be exact |
| 15:49.50 | Katty | Hmmhesays: that reminds me.......don't ask me /why/ it reminds me......but i want mp3s. |
| 15:50.12 | |Vulutre| | Can anyone recommend a good way to backup a linux box to an image so it can be restored to others? Ive tried a few and they all try to write the blank space to the image. |
| 15:50.27 | Qwell | |Vulutre|: tar it up |
| 15:50.32 | Hmmhesays | Katty: what mp3's? |
| 15:50.36 | Katty | |Vulutre|: i don't know.....i just use rsync and cron |
| 15:50.41 | Katty | Hmmhesays: you mp3s. |
| 15:50.44 | Katty | Hmmhesays: record me something |
| 15:50.52 | |Vulutre| | I use rsync to backup certian files, but I need the grub etc. |
| 15:50.54 | Hmmhesays | how about me swearing at my guitar? |
| 15:50.58 | Katty | sure! |
| 15:50.59 | SarahEmm | |Vulutre|: we use Acronis Trueimage |
| 15:51.04 | Hmmhesays | "@#)(@#)@(#&%$&%&&$&&&#&#" <crash> |
| 15:51.21 | FuriousGeorge | im gonna go rain fire brimstone and asterisk onto two alalog lines and a dsl connection, wish me luck, bbl |
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| 15:51.35 | |Vulutre| | Qwell: will a "tar -czvf backup.tar.gz /"? |
| 15:51.36 | brimstone | what now? |
| 15:51.39 | }cytrak{ | who uses digium cards here ? |
| 15:51.45 | SarahEmm | i use an x100p :) |
| 15:51.53 | Qwell | |Vulutre|: You'll want a few other options, like keeping perms/ownership |
| 15:51.53 | |Vulutre| | SarahEmm: I tried that but it doesn't like my Dell SC420s |
| 15:52.19 | Katty | Hmmhesays: ummm.........can i have it in mp3 encoding? (= |
| 15:52.21 | }cytrak{ | I'm trying to figure out which one I should get. |
| 15:52.26 | Hmmhesays | Katty sure |
| 15:52.33 | Katty | Hmmhesays: excellent |
| 15:52.44 | }cytrak{ | I thought about getting the Dev. kit with the TDM400P |
| 15:52.46 | SarahEmm | |Vulutre|: err, why not? we use it on poweredges a lot at work |
| 15:52.51 | iDunno | |Vulutre|: hmm, how about dd and a gzip pipe? |
| 15:52.56 | SarahEmm | }cytrak{: what interfaces do you need? |
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| 15:53.25 | Katty | Hmmhesays: i wanna hear |
| 15:53.27 | |Vulutre| | SarahEmm: doesn't like the Serial ATA for some reason |
| 15:53.34 | Hmmhesays | ooooohhhhh subline |
| 15:53.37 | Hmmhesays | yo file |
| 15:53.38 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: yeah that what I'm kind of confused. I think I need FXS only maybe one FXO ... |
| 15:53.39 | iDunno | (that was sick :) |
| 15:53.58 | SarahEmm | }cytrak{: what do you want to plug into the asterisk box, then? |
| 15:54.03 | |Vulutre| | SarahEmm: Ive used it on non-SATA and it works fine |
| 15:54.09 | SarahEmm | ahh *nods* |
| 15:54.14 | SarahEmm | we have no SATA boxes, just SCSI |
| 15:54.15 | gordonjcp | Katty: how do you do a drive-by hugging? |
| 15:54.24 | Katty | gordonjcp: very carefully. |
| 15:54.27 | gordonjcp | I mean, do you stop, get out, hug, get in, and go? |
| 15:54.39 | Katty | no, you just hug on the way |
| 15:54.41 | Qwell | gordonjcp: it could be on a bicycle |
| 15:54.46 | Qwell | or out the window |
| 15:54.47 | Hmmhesays | if I had a shotgun you know just what i'd do, i'd point that shit straight at the sky and shoot heaven on down for you |
| 15:54.49 | gordonjcp | or do you just kind of lean out and hug as you go past, and hope you don't drag them under the rear wheels? |
| 15:55.00 | Katty | pfft, technicalities. |
| 15:55.21 | gordonjcp | "HUUUUUUUUG!!!!!" <ba-dumph> "SQUUUUUISH!" |
| 15:55.31 | Hmmhesays | lol |
| 15:55.31 | iDunno | hehe |
| 15:55.34 | Katty | exactly. |
| 15:55.36 | Hmmhesays | that sounded so funny in my head |
| 15:56.01 | Hmmhesays | almost as funny as "FuriousGeorge" |
| 15:56.24 | Katty | Hmmhesays: squissh was definately the crash cymbal |
| 15:56.32 | Hmmhesays | i love the crash |
| 15:56.42 | Hmmhesays | if I played drums i'd be hitting that all the time |
| 15:57.08 | Hmmhesays | crash and ride are my two favorite symbols |
| 15:57.10 | Katty | i like teh hihat |
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| 15:57.45 | Hmmhesays | now picture billy joe armstrong nailing the crashing with the turned on microphone during a song... it was awesome |
| 15:57.55 | Hmmhesays | *the crash even |
| 15:59.04 | Hmmhesays | oh man veruca salt has such hot voices like *sirens* |
| 15:59.30 | Katty | yay for sirens. |
| 15:59.40 | Katty | don't they normally kill males though? |
| 15:59.45 | Hmmhesays | yes |
| 15:59.50 | Katty | excellent |
| 15:59.51 | Qwell | its worth it |
| 15:59.52 | Katty | i like them already. |
| 16:00.03 | Hmmhesays | you have one of their mp3's |
| 16:00.08 | Katty | oh? |
| 16:00.12 | Katty | is that one you sent to me? |
| 16:00.14 | Hmmhesays | i geeeee mailed it to you |
| 16:00.16 | Hmmhesays | yeah |
| 16:00.17 | Katty | oooooh, that one |
| 16:00.18 | Katty | k |
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| 16:04.50 | cjk | hi, does anyone know a good provider in australia to geet pri connectivity and DID's? or maybe a cheap dialout carrier in australia? |
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| 16:14.33 | |Vulutre| | SarahEmm: Looks like Acronis doesn't like CentOS 4 |
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| 16:15.41 | gaspi | hi, i'm new, I have a question about realtime voicemail config. Can anyone help me? |
| 16:17.07 | SarahEmm | |Vulutre|: uhh.. huh? it shouldn't care about the OS... we run boot *it* |
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| 16:18.16 | |Vulutre| | SarahEmm: trying on a SC400 with CentOS4 and it is trying to write blank space |
| 16:19.42 | Sk3tCh | how can i reload all the configs? only stop and start the asterisk or any cli command? |
| 16:20.00 | Qwell | Sk3tCh: reload |
| 16:20.09 | gaspi | contact me on private if you can help me with realtime voicemail config |
| 16:20.10 | Sk3tCh | oh yes |
| 16:20.59 | Sk3tCh | i get this |
| 16:21.00 | Sk3tCh | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.00 | Sk3tCh | Oct 3 19:38:11 NOTICE[16926]: app_mp3.c:91 timed_read: Poll timed out/errored out with 0 |
| 16:21.13 | SarahEmm | what filesystem |Vulutre|? that's mainly what it'll care about |
| 16:21.15 | Sk3tCh | the file exist |
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| 16:22.03 | Jefff | hello |
| 16:22.13 | SarahEmm | hi |
| 16:22.14 | Jefff | anyone out there |
| 16:22.19 | Jefff | Hi sarahemm |
| 16:22.19 | SarahEmm | yeppers |
| 16:22.20 | SarahEmm | :) |
| 16:22.26 | Sk3tCh | yes |
| 16:22.37 | Jefff | could you help me as asterisk newbei |
| 16:22.50 | Jefff | Hisk3tch |
| 16:22.53 | Jefff | hi |
| 16:23.05 | Sk3tCh | i can't play mp3 |
| 16:23.06 | Sk3tCh | why? |
| 16:23.10 | |Vulutre| | SarahEmm: default ext |
| 16:23.11 | Sk3tCh | and wav too |
| 16:23.12 | Sk3tCh | :D |
| 16:23.12 | SarahEmm | Jefff: what's the issue? |
| 16:23.17 | SarahEmm | |Vulutre|: weird. |
| 16:23.29 | SarahEmm | Sk3tCh: err, can't play mp3 as music on hold or what? |
| 16:23.41 | Beirdo | f'ing puzzle pirates :) |
| 16:23.42 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 16:23.43 | Sk3tCh | my dialplan is |
| 16:23.46 | SarahEmm | hihi Beirdo |
| 16:23.47 | SarahEmm | LOL |
| 16:23.55 | SarahEmm | don't paste it here Sk3tCh |
| 16:24.00 | SarahEmm | use a pastebin if it's more than a couple lines |
| 16:24.00 | Beirdo | heya, SarahEmm. :) you're still evil :) |
| 16:24.02 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 16:24.11 | Jefff | issue is that .. I would like to make an asterisk pbx .. but digium PCI cards are too expensive .. I have 4 port FXO gateway ... How can I connect it to astrisk to use it as FXO |
| 16:24.22 | Beirdo | we now have all the stalls but a shipwright |
| 16:24.27 | Beirdo | and two ships |
| 16:24.29 | Qwell | Jefff: What protocol is it? |
| 16:24.29 | Beirdo | :) |
| 16:24.35 | Jefff | SIP |
| 16:24.39 | Qwell | should work then |
| 16:24.40 | Jefff | I think |
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| 16:24.54 | Jefff | but how to connect it to PBX box ... |
| 16:25.02 | SarahEmm | it has an ethernet port i assume jefff? |
| 16:25.03 | Jefff | by buying a PCI Switch or what ? |
| 16:25.07 | puzzled | evening all |
| 16:25.08 | SarahEmm | errr no... |
| 16:25.12 | SarahEmm | what ports are on the gateway jefff? |
| 16:25.23 | Jefff | one lan and 4 FXO |
| 16:25.32 | Qwell | then just plug the SOB into a port on the switch... |
| 16:25.44 | Qwell | and configure sip.conf, bam, done |
| 16:25.48 | SarahEmm | err yeah.. just plug the gateway into the same LAN as your asterisk box |
| 16:26.00 | jake1932 | Qwell makes it sound so easy |
| 16:26.06 | Qwell | jake1932: I try. :p |
| 16:26.07 | |Vulutre| | SarahEmm: it reads "Type: 142(Linux LVM)" |
| 16:26.17 | Jefff | himm I see ... do you think that I can get the same performance like a digium TDM card |
| 16:26.30 | SarahEmm | |Vulutre|: ahhhhh. it's ext2 inside LVM :) |
| 16:26.41 | SarahEmm | so disk imaging software won't know how to handle it and will just treat it as raw data |
| 16:26.47 | Qwell | lvm is nice, but its a PITA to do anything with |
| 16:26.48 | |Vulutre| | ack |
| 16:26.59 | Sk3tCh | http://pastebin.ca/24518 |
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| 16:26.59 | SarahEmm | with compression you should get decent sized images, because it'll compress the zeros down to nothing (as long as freespace is zeroed out) |
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| 16:27.06 | |Vulutre| | yea |
| 16:27.11 | Sk3tCh | this is the dialplan |
| 16:27.24 | Jefff | did I get any answer or .. any way |
| 16:27.46 | |Vulutre| | Thats how CentOS sets things up |
| 16:27.46 | jake1932 | Jefff: even if it doesn't perform as well - it may still fit your needs |
| 16:27.53 | SarahEmm | and what's the error Sk3tCh? |
| 16:28.01 | |Vulutre| | I guess I will have to find another way... dd or tar |
| 16:28.01 | Sk3tCh | i wrote here |
| 16:28.10 | Jefff | thanks jake |
| 16:28.12 | Sk3tCh | Oct 3 19:38:11 NOTICE[16926]: app_mp3.c:91 timed_read: Poll timed out/errored out with 0 |
| 16:28.19 | Jefff | jake may I ask you one more question |
| 16:28.25 | jake1932 | Jefff: sure |
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| 16:28.54 | Jefff | those T1E1 cards |
| 16:28.57 | SarahEmm | hrm, i dunno Sk3tCh, sorry |
| 16:29.03 | Jefff | why the people needs them ? |
| 16:29.16 | Jefff | for what are they exactly |
| 16:29.16 | jake1932 | Jefff: to hook to a PRI line usually |
| 16:29.32 | Sk3tCh | i run asterisk as root |
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| 16:29.33 | shido6 | for an E1 or T1 or both |
| 16:29.34 | zoa | yo yo |
| 16:29.38 | Jefff | just to make a gateway from PSTN to VOIP or ? |
| 16:29.42 | SarahEmm | Jefff: it lets you connect to a PRI which will give you 24 channels to the telco for calling out and receiving calls. |
| 16:29.45 | Sk3tCh | so it can open all the files |
| 16:29.46 | fugitivo | what's a good motherboard for dual P4? |
| 16:29.51 | SarahEmm | s/24/up to 30/ |
| 16:30.11 | Jefff | 24 channel means that ... 24 people can speak at the same time right ? |
| 16:30.17 | SarahEmm | right |
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| 16:30.20 | fordvoice | hello |
| 16:30.20 | SarahEmm | T1s give you 24 |
| 16:30.24 | shido6 | Jefff, not just for PSTN voip connectivity - you can push DATA down a T1 and have asterisk work as a "cisco" router |
| 16:30.50 | SarahEmm | err... asterisk won't handle the data, will it? |
| 16:30.54 | shido6 | yes it will |
| 16:30.58 | SarahEmm | ahh |
| 16:31.10 | fugitivo | asterisk or the box? |
| 16:31.14 | brent21 | I am thinking about ordering a PRI from Verizon, however have a question regarding Long Distance |
| 16:31.15 | Jefff | I see ... so if I don't need any PSTN connection ... just to forward the calls to another route .. then I won't need it ... right ? |
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| 16:31.30 | brent21 | With a PRI, does it work the way regular analog lines work, you can pick your LD provider? |
| 16:31.36 | Jefff | is PRI = ISDN ? |
| 16:31.40 | jake1932 | Jefff: unless you have a T1 or E1 line, you don't need the t1 e1 card |
| 16:31.41 | SarahEmm | Jefff: right. only need it if you have a PRI. |
| 16:31.44 | shido6 | zapata drivers and a few linux tools |
| 16:31.45 | SarahEmm | yes, PRI is a type of ISDN |
| 16:32.03 | brent21 | Jefff, PRI ISDN is 23 B channels and 1 D channel |
| 16:33.01 | Jefff | with 2 MBps SDSL connection .. how many people can speak at the same time (let say with G729 ) |
| 16:33.02 | brent21 | With our current setup we have 10 analog lines, but a sweet deal on Unlimited Long Distance for like 50 bucks a month |
| 16:33.15 | fugitivo | Jefff: 100 |
| 16:33.18 | jake1932 | brent21: you can pick you LD provider, but I don't think all LD providers support PRI |
| 16:33.20 | zoa | http://www.asteriskguru.com/tools/bandwidth_calculator.php |
| 16:33.40 | brent21 | we want the features of a PRi, but so far people I have talked to in terms of providing LD for PRI, require you to sign up in $3000 commitments per year |
| 16:33.41 | Jefff | thanks zoa and Fugi |
| 16:33.59 | gaspi | hi |
| 16:34.07 | jake1932 | brent21: there's always VOIP |
| 16:34.16 | Jefff | I have another question .. hope I do not bother all of you .. |
| 16:34.19 | brent21 | jake1932, QOS is huge for us |
| 16:34.23 | gaspi | did anyone set up a realtime + voicemail? |
| 16:34.29 | jake1932 | brent21: heh - forget that then |
| 16:34.44 | Jefff | I see many voip provider ... what type of system do they use as infrastructure ? asterisk or ? |
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| 16:35.21 | SarahEmm | providers use all different systems. a number do use asterisk, yes. |
| 16:35.22 | jake1932 | Jefff: it varies - some even modify asterisk a little |
| 16:35.24 | Jefff | for exaple .... sipsnip.de ... I like what they have |
| 16:35.42 | Abbas | can we handle answer and disconnect supervisions in asterisk? |
| 16:35.42 | zoa | Hi to all |
| 16:35.42 | zoa | I'm a newbie of Asterisk...I set up 2 server with sip client and connected each other with IAX channel (no trunk). When I dial from server 1 to server 2 the client of server 2 is ringing but I don't listen anything in headset from server 1. |
| 16:35.44 | Jefff | I really wonder ... |
| 16:35.45 | zoa | omg |
| 16:36.10 | zoa | i wonder how that guy did that |
| 16:36.11 | brent21 | In terms of telecommunications, its a weird state to be in when you need 10 or 12 lines, too big for cable modem / dsl & analog lines, too small for T1 and PRI |
| 16:36.13 | brent21 | what to do |
| 16:36.23 | zoa | get 2 dsls |
| 16:36.25 | SarahEmm | well, you can get a not-full PRI |
| 16:36.27 | SarahEmm | usually |
| 16:36.31 | SarahEmm | with only 10 or 12 active channels |
| 16:36.32 | jake1932 | brent21: 6 BRIs? |
| 16:36.45 | brent21 | Bri charge per minute is ridiculous |
| 16:36.55 | Jefff | now BRI .. how many channel can be carried with it ? |
| 16:36.58 | brent21 | SarahEmm, interesting thought, i wish Verizon would quote that |
| 16:37.01 | jake1932 | 2B + 1D |
| 16:37.07 | Abbas | can we handle answer and disconnect supervisions in asterisk? |
| 16:37.20 | *** join/#asterisk firestorm-voip (n=firestor@62-181-86-226.skbbip.com) |
| 16:37.34 | SarahEmm | Abbas: yes, if your hardware supports it |
| 16:37.35 | Jefff | jake .. pls pls tell me what is that B and D ? |
| 16:37.38 | *** join/#asterisk SplasPood (i=jwb@ludicrous.paravolve.net) |
| 16:37.55 | SarahEmm | Jefff: Bearer and Data. B channels carry your voice, D channels are used for communications to set up the B channels and such |
| 16:38.46 | Jefff | many thanks sarah ... |
| 16:38.59 | SarahEmm | np |
| 16:39.02 | Sk3tCh | what is the playback syntax? |
| 16:39.07 | Sk3tCh | Playback(file) ? |
| 16:39.15 | jake1932 | Sk3tCh: yes |
| 16:39.27 | Abbas | SarahEmm yes i am using Quintum at other side to send calls from asterisk on SIP |
| 16:39.30 | Sk3tCh | and its also not working.. |
| 16:39.37 | SarahEmm | Sk3tCh: http://voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+Playback |
| 16:39.43 | Abbas | but call counter startes right when call lands on Quintum |
| 16:39.46 | SarahEmm | Sk3tCh: what error? |
| 16:39.56 | jake1932 | Sk3tCh: in fact - if you search on voip-info.com using the syntax xxx cmd wher xxx is the app name, it'll give you an idea of syntax |
| 16:40.04 | Abbas | SarahEmm: b4 it connectes |
| 16:40.15 | SarahEmm | Abbas: hrm. i dunno, i don't use call counter stuff =/ |
| 16:40.21 | Jefff | by calling cards .. I see that everyone is calling the same phone number and speak at the same time ... is is PRI ? |
| 16:40.22 | Sk3tCh | oks thx |
| 16:40.26 | Sk3tCh | http://pastebin.ca/24520 |
| 16:40.36 | SarahEmm | Jefff: could be, likely is. |
| 16:40.40 | jake1932 | Jefff: could be VOIP also |
| 16:41.04 | Jefff | himm ... is BRI carriying more channel ? |
| 16:41.27 | jake1932 | Jefff: BRI = 2B PRI = 23B |
| 16:41.45 | Jefff | only 2 ... |
| 16:41.49 | jake1932 | yes |
| 16:42.24 | Jefff | himm .. so it is nothing ... when I was in germany I had ISDN ... and had 10 tel number ... so it means that I had PRI or ? |
| 16:42.31 | *** part/#asterisk Attila_Kovacs (n=kovacsat@dsl51B79055.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 16:42.55 | jake1932 | Sk3tCh: it can't find that file |
| 16:43.10 | Sk3tCh | i run as root |
| 16:43.10 | jake1932 | Jefff: probably PRI |
| 16:43.14 | Sk3tCh | and the file exist |
| 16:43.25 | brent21 | Does anyone have a PRI from Verizon? |
| 16:43.40 | zoa | probably BRI with 10 numbers on it |
| 16:44.13 | jake1932 | Jefff: duh - 10 numbers not lines - my mistake |
| 16:44.16 | Jefff | but how can 10 people speak at the same time with 2 channel ( if it is BRI |
| 16:44.22 | zoa | whos going to astricon ? |
| 16:44.27 | zoa | ah they cant, only 2 could |
| 16:44.38 | SarahEmm | t |
| 16:44.43 | Sk3tCh | jake1932: the file is exist |
| 16:44.50 | Jefff | thanks |
| 16:44.50 | Beirdo | sorry, no Astricon for me. |
| 16:45.01 | Beirdo | *maybe* if it were in Toronto |
| 16:45.04 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 16:45.08 | SarahEmm | i'd be there for sure if it was in toronto |
| 16:45.22 | Beirdo | still be an issue of getting off work |
| 16:45.27 | Beirdo | I'm doing enough of that as it is |
| 16:45.31 | SarahEmm | me too |
| 16:45.42 | SarahEmm | but i'd be able to go to half of it due to my Weird schedule |
| 16:46.14 | Beirdo | well, once I get paid... dammit, gimme the cheque already! |
| 16:46.36 | Beirdo | this time I will be bearing ring... |
| 16:46.41 | *** join/#asterisk Luke-Jr (n=luke-jr@user-0c938qu.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 16:46.57 | Jefff | lets say ... one has an ATA ( with codec 729) connected to providers asterisk .. and this asteriks forward the call to another IP to terminate ( at the termination codec is 711 ) ... can they communicate or ... just no conection |
| 16:47.25 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: sorry I had steped out for a moment |
| 16:47.39 | Jefff | can asteriks make codec conversion or .. is it too much work for it ? |
| 16:47.47 | zoa | bbl |
| 16:47.48 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: I need to have my SIP phones be able to dialout |
| 16:48.01 | Beirdo | asterisk will do codec conversion. |
| 16:48.08 | *** part/#asterisk brent21 (n=Brent21@70.88.149.221) |
| 16:48.17 | Beirdo | it's not exactly nice for CPU, but it works fine |
| 16:48.19 | fordvoice | how difficult is it to have asterisk pass h323 calls to a Ericsson/webswitch 100 |
| 16:48.47 | Beirdo | h323? not my cup of tea |
| 16:48.49 | Jefff | can it do 100 call conversion at the same time ? ( if 100 calls are establish like this ) |
| 16:48.50 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: the thing is ... I have a semiens HiCOM 150 H PBX box that I guess I want my asterisk server to send the calls to |
| 16:49.11 | Beirdo | Jefff: that might be a lot of CPU, I'm sure others have a better idea of how much |
| 16:49.11 | SarahEmm | }cytrak{: err... what protocols does it talk? |
| 16:49.36 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: the sip dtmfmode you mean ? |
| 16:49.45 | SarahEmm | err... |
| 16:49.47 | SarahEmm | okay, start again. |
| 16:49.48 | Jefff | beirdo thanks ... But if it is like that ... how the providers solve this problem ? |
| 16:49.50 | SarahEmm | what are you trying to do? |
| 16:49.59 | Beirdo | Jefff: dunno |
| 16:50.09 | jeffik | Bierdo: Hi |
| 16:50.15 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: trying to allow my asterisk server to dialout |
| 16:50.16 | Jefff | :-) what is dunno :-) |
| 16:50.25 | shido6 | ? |
| 16:50.26 | Jefff | ohh sorry I got you |
| 16:50.48 | SarahEmm | }cytrak{: okay.... |
| 16:50.50 | Jefff | any one has any idea about my question |
| 16:50.53 | SarahEmm | }cytrak{: over what kind of line? |
| 16:50.56 | Sk3tCh | i can play all type of wav or not? |
| 16:51.18 | Sk3tCh | maybe that is the problem? |
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| 16:51.37 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: that's where my problem starts |
| 16:52.26 | FuriousGeorge | you know, when i call my outbound dialing macro for long distance i get a no context (only when using my iax2 provider) |
| 16:52.32 | FuriousGeorge | not when i use zap |
| 16:52.33 | groogs | i have a 1-866 number that calls 2-3 times a day, with no one on the line ,and after 20 seconds it hangs up .. does anyone know a way to look up who it is? or should i just block that callerid? |
| 16:52.35 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: How do I know what kind of line I have ? I thought I had trunk lines but I'm not so sure anymore |
| 16:52.49 | shido6 | heh |
| 16:52.53 | shido6 | do they come in from the wall? |
| 16:52.59 | SarahEmm | }cytrak{: err... are they from the telco, or are you trying to hook the PBX up to *, or what? |
| 16:53.19 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: right now I have a Adtran T1 CSU ACE line that is connected to my current voicemail system and to the PBX box |
| 16:53.34 | *** join/#asterisk [ViRii] (n=virii@68-186-170-246.dhcp.smrt.tn.charter.com) |
| 16:53.35 | denon | groogs: call the number back |
| 16:54.11 | SarahEmm | }cytrak{: didn't answer my question.. do you want to connect Asterisk directly to the T1 and remove the old voicemail/PBX, or connect * to the old PBX box? |
| 16:54.27 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: connect to the old PBX |
| 16:54.45 | SarahEmm | ahh. |
| 16:54.47 | SarahEmm | okay. |
| 16:54.48 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: I'm removing the old voicemail system but keeping the PBX |
| 16:54.55 | SarahEmm | so what kind of connections does the PBX have that you can connect to? |
| 16:55.45 | [ViRii] | Oct 3 07:30:19 DEBUG[6556]: Manager received command 'Command' |
| 16:56.01 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: I think it has a T1 .... |
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| 16:56.14 | gaspi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.25 | SarahEmm | }cytrak{: err... you need to find out what kind of connections are available on it to plug into, before you'll know what * hardware you need :) |
| 16:56.32 | SarahEmm | you probably want to be more sure than 'i think' :) |
| 16:57.07 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: that is a cable from the PBX that goes into that T1 CSU ACE device and then a Cat5 cable comes out that goes into the voicemail system I got. |
| 16:57.27 | pauldy | t1 connecting you from your pbx to voicemail box, probably not |
| 16:57.32 | SarahEmm | yeah.. |
| 16:57.38 | SarahEmm | umm, find out for sure }cytrak{ :) |
| 16:57.48 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: but the Cat5 cable was split into 3 RJ11s since the old system has an old dialogic 4port data-voice ISA card |
| 16:57.56 | SarahEmm | yeah, that's not a T1.... |
| 16:58.01 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: alright .. thanks |
| 16:58.03 | pauldy | yea those are just voice ports |
| 16:58.04 | SarahEmm | check with whoever runs the system and find out :) |
| 16:58.11 | SarahEmm | then you can know what kind of card you need. |
| 16:58.15 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: I will |
| 16:58.50 | pauldy | I need to get me a PRI |
| 16:58.52 | SarahEmm | lol |
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| 16:59.31 | FuriousGeorge | can someone take a look at this for me: http://pastebin.com/381720 . i use the same macros for local, longdistance, and tollfree, but the only one i have problems with the "context" with is the longdistance |
| 17:00.19 | }cytrak{ | how many simultaneous calls can you make if you use a TDM400P card though ? |
| 17:00.22 | [ViRii] | how would i make an extension dial console? |
| 17:00.29 | [ViRii] | 24? |
| 17:00.35 | SarahEmm | Dial(Console/dsp) |
| 17:00.36 | SarahEmm | iirc |
| 17:00.55 | SarahEmm | }cytrak{: however many FXO modules are installed in it, and connected to POTS phone lines |
| 17:00.56 | pauldy | }cytrak{, with a TDM400P you can't make any calls unless you have modules in it |
| 17:01.15 | pauldy | but up to 4 |
| 17:01.15 | SarahEmm | }cytrak{: the module just is a carrier. you install up to 4 modules in it. FXO modules connect to POTS lines, FXS modules connect to phones |
| 17:01.35 | FuriousGeorge | }cytrak{, if you had 4 fxo modules you could call out 4 times, if you had four fxo modules and a sip or iax2 provuider you can make unlimited calls out for cheaper probably |
| 17:02.24 | pauldy | SarahEmm, whos your iax2 provider? |
| 17:02.51 | SarahEmm | pauldy: voctel |
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| 17:04.04 | Qwell | woops |
| 17:04.35 | }cytrak{ | what if the PBX box is responsible for making the calls ? asterisk just sends the signal over there |
| 17:05.17 | pauldy | jake1932, sounds like its before my time |
| 17:05.30 | jake1932 | he's still alive |
| 17:05.42 | SarahEmm | }cytrak{: you still have to connect to it somehow :) |
| 17:05.46 | jake1932 | i think |
| 17:06.01 | rayvd | our sip/pstn provider disconnects calls to asterisk voicemail because the RTP stream from asterisk stops after the initial voicemail message is played. |
| 17:06.04 | rayvd | isn't that mean? >:o |
| 17:07.17 | FuriousGeorge | for some reason i keep getting "no context" when i use this macro for long distance calling. can someone please take a look at this |
| 17:07.20 | FuriousGeorge | http://pastebin.com/381720 |
| 17:08.26 | pauldy | line 22 is wrong |
| 17:08.40 | pauldy | should be like 104 instead of 102 right |
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| 17:09.39 | pauldy | n+101 and your dial command is on 3 |
| 17:10.23 | FuriousGeorge | pauldy: thats not it b/c the n+101 comes from chanisavail |
| 17:10.57 | FuriousGeorge | why is the cli output talking about chan zap/1/1 |
| 17:10.59 | Badenser | Whats the difference between "Failed to authenticate on INVITE to " and "wrong password" ???? |
| 17:13.38 | FuriousGeorge | i ahve another line wich is a normal exten => _8NXXNXXXXXX,1,1,dial(user@nufone/${EXTEN:1}) and that works, but when i call the macro the cli output tells me there is no context for the call |
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| 17:13.58 | Qwell | FuriousGeorge: You don't have a protocol... |
| 17:14.03 | Qwell | IAX2/user@blah |
| 17:14.06 | Qwell | or SIP, or whatever |
| 17:14.13 | shido6 | err |
| 17:14.17 | shido6 | why do you have ,1,1 ? |
| 17:14.25 | Qwell | and that, heh |
| 17:14.34 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: I'm gonna go check for that now |
| 17:14.39 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: thanks |
| 17:14.49 | Qwell | file: don't do that, we need to keep you around |
| 17:14.51 | shido6 | dibs on file's laptop if he passes ot |
| 17:14.56 | shido6 | +u |
| 17:14.56 | Qwell | damn |
| 17:15.03 | file | :P |
| 17:15.11 | Qwell | dibs on his phones then |
| 17:15.24 | file | I can't get these Solaris boxes to accept the public key of this other box... |
| 17:15.25 | *** join/#asterisk TheCops (n=bobby@206-248-136-187.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 17:15.26 | TheCops | Hi |
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| 17:15.31 | shido6 | ooooh solaris |
| 17:15.37 | shido6 | sux to be you |
| 17:15.44 | shido6 | tell me its not a blade |
| 17:15.52 | file | I have no clue :P |
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| 17:15.59 | TheCops | Someone is using SPA-2002 ? I have some problem with dialing * before the number, it give me a new dialtone... |
| 17:16.15 | Qwell | TheCops: probably something in the dialplan of the ata |
| 17:16.17 | shido6 | check the admin settings |
| 17:16.24 | shido6 | take out th euse of the "*" |
| 17:16.39 | Qwell | or that...never used one, so I was guessing |
| 17:17.03 | CrazyYoss | quick question: using asterisk on an average linux box and a voip carrier what kind of simultaneous user capacity am I looking at? |
| 17:17.18 | shido6 | whats an average linux box? |
| 17:17.36 | FuriousGeorge | shido6: where do i have a 1,1 that you see? |
| 17:17.45 | TheCops | shido6, admin setting, in the line 1 setting ? |
| 17:17.47 | shido6 | <FuriousGeorge> i ahve another line wich is a normal exten => _8NXXNXXXXXX,1,1,dial(user@nufone/${EXTEN:1}) and that works, but when i call the macro the cli output tells me there is no context for the call |
| 17:17.48 | CrazyYoss | say 2.5ghz 1 gig o ram |
| 17:18.03 | FuriousGeorge | Qwell: its not the protocol b/c i can force a call out with that protocal by dialing 8, as long as i dont call the macro it gopes through |
| 17:18.09 | shido6 | no prompts |
| 17:18.10 | shido6 | no ivrs |
| 17:18.18 | shido6 | no codec conversions |
| 17:18.21 | shido6 | 3k - 6k |
| 17:18.34 | Darwin35 | hence forth all asterisk users must pay a user royality fee to the the help the hoomless techs fund to help all our fellow techs that are homeless since the hurricains |
| 17:18.36 | FuriousGeorge | shido6: oh that was when i was typing here, but in real life there is no 1,1 |
| 17:18.48 | shido6 | oh ok |
| 17:19.03 | Qwell | FuriousGeorge: and what about the IAX2/ or SIP/ ? |
| 17:19.08 | Damin | We got the funk.. |
| 17:20.30 | FuriousGeorge | Qwell: i don understand, what about it? it works as long as i dont call the macro in the pastebin to dial out or failback |
| 17:20.52 | FuriousGeorge | http://pastebin.com/381720 |
| 17:21.26 | file | you're not specifying a username when you call the Macro |
| 17:21.33 | file | IAX2/username@nufone not just IAX2/nufone |
| 17:21.39 | TheCops | shido6, in Vertical Service Activation Codes I need to remove * ? |
| 17:22.01 | FuriousGeorge | file: thats it, thanks |
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| 17:22.38 | zeckill | hello all |
| 17:22.51 | zeckill | I have a question about CDR records |
| 17:23.40 | zeckill | how can I get the actual billsec for a call which is bridged to another Asterisk box please? |
| 17:23.54 | SarahEmm | anyone here ever use voipware.ca? |
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| 17:24.35 | gaspi | why doesn't recognize asterisk realtime voicemail users? |
| 17:24.37 | file | zeckill: that's a very vague question, what's happening that you can't get it? |
| 17:24.59 | zeckill | file: I have the connection working as this: SIP > Asterisk > IAX2 > Asterisk |
| 17:25.29 | gaspi | I set up realtime and it works with sip and extensions |
| 17:25.45 | gaspi | but it doesn't get the voicemail users |
| 17:25.58 | zeckill | file: the billsec in the CDR of the 1st Asterisk box is not the desired timing... what I want is the IAX call billsec after it is picked up by 2nd Asterisk box |
| 17:25.59 | TheCops | There's a way in the dialplan of the sipura 2002 to forward all extension to asterisk PBX ? |
| 17:26.08 | gaspi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.31 | file | zeckill: so you want the CDR to be reset before you call the other Asterisk box? |
| 17:26.55 | Katty | mew. |
| 17:27.01 | SarahEmm | mrrow! |
| 17:27.03 | zeckill | file: yes and then start the count again when the IAX call is picked up by 2nd * box |
| 17:27.04 | SarahEmm | *glomps katty* |
| 17:27.37 | file[laptop] | zeckill: call ResetCDR before you call the other asterisk box, it'll reset your CDR record... |
| 17:28.03 | zeckill | file: extension,n,ResetCDR() ? |
| 17:28.09 | blitzrage | w00t |
| 17:28.13 | file[laptop] | zeckill: yes |
| 17:28.37 | zeckill | file: for some reason it didn't work when I tried 2 days ago |
| 17:28.38 | SarahEmm | Yay! |
| 17:28.59 | zeckill | file: anyways if ResetCDR() is the correct way of doing it... I'll investigate why it didn't work then |
| 17:29.01 | blitzrage | ok, I need to get back on track here -- back to GUI programming for me! |
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| 17:29.44 | zeckill | file: but after ResetCDR... does the count start again immediately or until the call is actually picked up (off hook) by the 2nd Asterisk box? |
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| 17:30.57 | file[laptop] | zeckill: it resets the CDR to brand new, so total time resets to 0 and billsecs resets to 0, and it starts again |
| 17:31.56 | zeckill | file: yea so the duration before the actual pick up will also be counted... correct? |
| 17:32.09 | file[laptop] | billsecs only starts when the call is answered |
| 17:32.19 | file[laptop] | total is including setup, ringing, whateva |
| 17:32.25 | zeckill | file: oh ok... let me try again |
| 17:32.34 | zeckill | file: so ResetCDR() before Dial() ? |
| 17:32.40 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 17:32.46 | zeckill | file: thanks a lot |
| 17:34.12 | Katty | too much lunch |
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| 17:34.33 | mutilator | i wondered why i felt outta place today |
| 17:34.36 | mutilator | i wasn't in #asterisk |
| 17:34.38 | mutilator | O_O |
| 17:35.00 | Katty | i'm full of bbqed lentils. |
| 17:35.09 | Katty | and coleslaw |
| 17:35.14 | shido6 | what? |
| 17:35.14 | file[laptop] | ooh coleslaw |
| 17:35.19 | shido6 | asterisk can bbq ? |
| 17:35.21 | Katty | yes, with cinnamon and apples. |
| 17:35.24 | Qwell | Katty: good thing it was file that exploded, and not you... |
| 17:35.31 | Katty | Qwell: ;> |
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| 17:40.05 | Katty | oh |
| 17:40.08 | Katty | it got all quiet. |
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| 17:42.40 | leszq | hi all |
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| 17:52.21 | SarahEmm | wooo :) |
| 17:52.23 | [ViRii] | lol |
| 17:52.34 | SarahEmm | found a place that has the 501 in stock as opposed to the (now discontinued) 500 :) |
| 17:52.45 | [ViRii] | i got 600's |
| 17:52.52 | SarahEmm | too expensive heh |
| 17:52.56 | [ViRii] | nice phone |
| 17:52.58 | SarahEmm | *nods* |
| 17:52.59 | [ViRii] | cant use it hardly =P |
| 17:53.04 | SarahEmm | i use textmode more than voicemode |
| 17:53.10 | SarahEmm | so $300 is already a lot to spend on a phone heh |
| 17:53.10 | [ViRii] | too many neat features =P |
| 17:53.33 | pauldy | 190 bucks is a bit pricey for a wired phone |
| 17:54.09 | SarahEmm | what phone is 190? |
| 17:54.21 | pauldy | the polycom 501 |
| 17:54.28 | SarahEmm | ahhh |
| 17:54.31 | SarahEmm | $269.99 CDN heh |
| 17:54.41 | cripito | well i think it really pay off |
| 17:54.41 | *** join/#asterisk tod (n=tod@207.54.140.99) |
| 17:54.49 | pauldy | ahh 187.15 US |
| 17:54.51 | [ViRii] | cripito: howzs that |
| 17:54.57 | pauldy | http://www.tritechcoa.com/product/982617.html |
| 17:55.02 | SarahEmm | the polycoms just use a normal handset connector like everything else right? |
| 17:55.11 | [ViRii] | yes |
| 17:55.12 | cripito | grandstream is 64 |
| 17:55.15 | SarahEmm | cool. |
| 17:55.19 | SarahEmm | grandstreams are no good tho ;) |
| 17:55.21 | cripito | and s.... |
| 17:55.34 | SarahEmm | that's without the AC adapter tho for 187.15 |
| 17:55.50 | tod | what is a 'nonce' and how would it become stale? (I'm getting a error 'stale nonce received from') |
| 17:55.50 | [ViRii] | how can i get intercom to work =( its drivin me up the wall |
| 17:55.50 | pauldy | SarahEmm, I would use poe anyway |
| 17:56.07 | cripito | 501 and polycom are expenses.. but they definitelly need lets work than grandstream |
| 17:56.11 | cripito | so u save at the end |
| 17:56.14 | SarahEmm | pauldy: at home? |
| 17:56.29 | pauldy | SarahEmm, of course I use poe for my gxp-2000 right now |
| 17:56.42 | SarahEmm | pauldy: what switch? |
| 17:57.07 | pauldy | using a zonet switch |
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| 17:59.30 | xkev | I've got a nice * setup goin, but I'm workin on a SER with * as media, for residential etc. |
| 18:00.02 | xkev | is there something var I can set so chan_sip will return a particular code, e.g. 404, 480, 503 etc after an early media? |
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| 18:00.15 | arp2 | hiya xkev |
| 18:00.47 | xkev | (e.g. "this number has been temporarily disconnected" send 402 payment required) |
| 18:00.49 | xkev | sup arp |
| 18:01.09 | pauldy | what is a nanogger |
| 18:01.18 | SarahEmm | i'm assuming someone who attends NANOG conferences |
| 18:01.21 | xkev | I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you |
| 18:01.23 | SarahEmm | (north american networ operators group) |
| 18:01.53 | xkev | meeaning, sarah gets actual work done instead of fucking around in IRC all day |
| 18:01.56 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 18:01.59 | SarahEmm | it's sunday for me today |
| 18:02.03 | SarahEmm | so i'm IRCing all day :) |
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| 18:02.20 | pauldy | damb canada must be further north than I thought |
| 18:02.20 | |Vulutre| | SarahEmm: Im doing a ext3 install now... see if this works |
| 18:02.28 | SarahEmm | pauldy: mew? |
| 18:02.35 | SarahEmm | |Vulutre|: without LVM? |
| 18:02.43 | |Vulutre| | SarahEmm: correct |
| 18:02.46 | SarahEmm | cool |
| 18:02.56 | |Vulutre| | apparently CentOS4 uses LVM by default in its auto partition |
| 18:03.08 | xkev | ..or better, where's olle |
| 18:03.28 | pauldy | why abstract something that is already farley comples into something even more complaex |
| 18:03.34 | pauldy | what is really gained by using LVM |
| 18:03.50 | SarahEmm | uhh |
| 18:03.52 | SarahEmm | quite a bit :) |
| 18:03.57 | xkev | snapshots, block dev shrink/grow, etc |
| 18:04.09 | *** join/#asterisk Jabroni (n=Jabroni@red-corp-200.76.249.142.telnor.net) |
| 18:04.12 | SarahEmm | on my file server when i run out of space i can add another RAID set and expand my existing volume to fill all the space |
| 18:04.30 | |Vulutre| | yea LVM is nice but I don't need it on * |
| 18:04.40 | pauldy | SarahEmm, there were utilities to do that with straight up block dev hds |
| 18:04.53 | |Vulutre| | since they are single drive units with low HD usage |
| 18:04.56 | pauldy | using mdraid |
| 18:04.57 | SarahEmm | err.... what pauldy? |
| 18:04.57 | stevej | LVM allows snapshots? |
| 18:05.06 | Jabroni | guys question.. how does * detects when an outgoing call (via zap) gets anwsered? |
| 18:05.14 | SarahEmm | pauldy: hmmm |
| 18:05.21 | [ViRii] | [INTERCOM] |
| 18:05.21 | [ViRii] | exten => 112,1,Ringing |
| 18:05.22 | [ViRii] | exten => 112,2,Dial(console/dsp,20,A(beep)) |
| 18:05.22 | [ViRii] | exten => 112,3,Hangup |
| 18:05.22 | pauldy | SarahEmm, there were tools for mdraid to grow/shrink raid |
| 18:05.23 | [ViRii] | isnt working |
| 18:05.38 | [ViRii] | why =P |
| 18:05.43 | SarahEmm | pauldy: but i have one RAID-5 set now, if i want to drop in a seperate RAID-5 set and have my volume use both as one big one |
| 18:05.47 | mrfrenzy | you really shouldn't have an extension called 112 |
| 18:05.48 | SarahEmm | can i do that with those tools? |
| 18:05.52 | |Vulutre| | in Ringing a new command? |
| 18:06.05 | SarahEmm | mrfrenzy: err, why? |
| 18:06.06 | xkev | jabroni by, answer supervision. depends on zap hardware |
| 18:06.19 | mrfrenzy | SarahEmm: it's the european equivalent to 911 |
| 18:06.20 | pauldy | SarahEmm, never had to do it so I don't know if you could |
| 18:06.29 | SarahEmm | mrfrenzy: okay, but if he's not in europe, what's the issue? |
| 18:06.29 | xkev | line voltage change, etc. I use only PRI so I'm no good with analog crap |
| 18:06.33 | pauldy | I just know that you can add single drives to a raid array |
| 18:06.42 | pauldy | or let me rephrase you could |
| 18:06.43 | SarahEmm | pauldy: true. but i want to add RAIDs to RAIDs :) |
| 18:06.46 | |Vulutre| | xkev: amen |
| 18:06.53 | mrfrenzy | SarahEmm: I'm in europe and I map 911 -> 112, if I was in .us I would do the opposite |
| 18:06.53 | SarahEmm | pauldy: and the LVM stuff is very similar to the AIX tools that i grew up with |
| 18:06.55 | gordonjcp | SarahEmm: would it make sense for me to have an extension called 911 ? |
| 18:06.56 | SarahEmm | so i'm happy with it :) |
| 18:07.04 | SarahEmm | mrfrenzy: okay... |
| 18:07.06 | [ViRii] | thanks for the nfo tho :> |
| 18:07.24 | Jabroni | xkev yeah... im using a digium 4 fxo card.. and for some wierd reason on 1 port the channels get dropped after 3 minutes.. checked the CDR and the call suppostly was never anwsered |
| 18:07.24 | *** join/#asterisk froud (n=froud@ndn-165-134-136.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 18:07.31 | |Vulutre| | oh well we map extensions 100-199 |
| 18:07.33 | [ViRii] | 112 ok anyway why doesnt my console work right? i got a onboard soundcard ac97 somethin |
| 18:07.57 | xkev | you answer your own question |
| 18:08.08 | xkev | oej, sorry yeah pong |
| 18:08.09 | xkev | ;alkrnb;aokhr |
| 18:08.13 | froud | Hi has anyone see a document decribing/defining the variables in iax.conf? |
| 18:08.16 | *** join/#asterisk tzanger (n=tzanger@mixdown.ca) |
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| 18:08.20 | tzanger | TURN OFF THE FUCKING +R |
| 18:08.26 | pauldy | SarahEmm, I was just making the argument that they took an already overly complicated device structure made it even more so without much added benifit over what was already available under the original device structure |
| 18:08.33 | mrfrenzy | tzanger: turn off caps and stop swearing |
| 18:08.35 | Jabroni | now the real question is.. how do i change parameters on the anwser supervision |
| 18:08.44 | tzanger | mrfrenzy: and you are? |
| 18:08.56 | mrfrenzy | tzanger: I'm your carma |
| 18:09.01 | tzanger | ha |
| 18:09.07 | tzanger | my carma's in the shop |
| 18:09.09 | leszq | Will be a good voice quality if a lattency is about 180ms (ping) from one sip user to the other ?? |
| 18:09.15 | tzanger | if freenode were stable +r wouldn't be so bad |
| 18:09.15 | LoRez | is that an automobile version of zen? |
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| 18:09.26 | tzanger | leszq: 180ms isn't too bad at all |
| 18:09.35 | tzanger | a little laggy sure but certainly within what I'd consider acceptable |
| 18:09.47 | implicit | leszq, jitter is a bigger issue |
| 18:10.07 | pauldy | compaired to smoke signals 180ms is nothing |
| 18:10.14 | mrfrenzy | tzanger: I've been in this channel for 27 days without having to reregister, I'd say it's your connection that's unstable |
| 18:10.21 | tzanger | yeah, jittery smoke signals suck |
| 18:10.30 | tzanger | mrfrenzy: I've been here for 24 months, what's your point |
| 18:10.42 | tzanger | freenode's servers tend to sputter from time to time |
| 18:10.51 | tzanger | +r does absolutely nothing |
| 18:10.56 | tzanger | but piss off people like me |
| 18:10.59 | mrfrenzy | tzanger: the point is they haven't sputtered in the last 27 days |
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| 18:11.22 | froud | sorry to post twice, but has anyone seen a document decribing/defining the variables in iax.conf? |
| 18:11.27 | tzanger | mrfrenzy: no, the particular server you are on hasn't sputtered in 27 days. I must have been on that machine at one point because it was a couple months since I've had this kind of trouble |
| 18:11.29 | leszq | implicit: Can u write more about how to configure some options in sip.conf to do best configuration to this latency ?? |
| 18:11.40 | tzanger | froud: should be in the iax.conf example that came with the source |
| 18:11.59 | mrfrenzy | tzanger: you using a bad server is not a reason to bitch about channel modes |
| 18:12.01 | implicit | leszq, the best option is to try and gget out of the media stream |
| 18:12.15 | froud | tzanger: not all variables have definitions for example codepriority |
| 18:12.17 | tzanger | mrfrenzy: your opinion has been duly noted. |
| 18:12.24 | froud | tzanger: not all variables have definitions for example codecpriority |
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| 18:12.32 | leszq | implicit: thx i'll try |
| 18:12.36 | tzanger | froud: you mihgt have to dig through the source then, documentation is not asterisk's strong point :-) |
| 18:13.05 | froud | Hmm I have about 27 un documented variables |
| 18:13.17 | tzanger | the wiki could youse your input |
| 18:13.29 | implicit | froud, Use the Force ? Read the source! |
| 18:13.29 | froud | If I can find there definitions I can contribute them to the src |
| 18:13.45 | froud | implicit: oh how cliche |
| 18:14.30 | leszq | implicit: is better to use in this scenario(ping 180ms) iax or sip?? |
| 18:14.36 | tzanger | leszq: doesn't matter |
| 18:14.43 | implicit | leszq, SIP |
| 18:14.45 | tzanger | one kind of transport doesn't go faster than the other |
| 18:14.57 | implicit | tzanger, in some cases it does |
| 18:15.03 | tzanger | implicit: nonsense. |
| 18:15.05 | implicit | if you can get out of media stream but still need to pull back |
| 18:15.06 | implicit | SIP is better |
| 18:15.13 | implicit | cause in IAX signalling and media always travel together |
| 18:15.15 | implicit | in SIP they don't |
| 18:15.15 | tzanger | if you can get out of the media stream then you're taking a TOTALLY different route |
| 18:15.17 | cripito | implicit try to do the same with all the events that asterisk manager provide :PP |
| 18:15.50 | tzanger | the packets are still taking the same amount of time, iax and sip between two points will take the same amount of time. if you change the path for one you've invalidated the test |
| 18:15.51 | implicit | tzanger, yes, a totally different route that SIP provides and IAX doesn't :) |
| 18:16.04 | tzanger | but yes, sip *can* help, but our dear leszq hasn't given us any information |
| 18:16.11 | cripito | question... |
| 18:16.13 | implicit | tzanger, yeah |
| 18:16.18 | cripito | there is anyone here that works in astmanproxy? |
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| 18:17.30 | leszq | tzanger, implicit: thanks |
| 18:17.56 | implicit | leszq, if you can get out of the media stream and still want to be in signalling stream, or are making calls where you don't need to be in the media stream from SIP endpoints it's better to use SIP |
| 18:18.49 | nestAr | sup all, long time no chat. |
| 18:18.54 | tzanger | nestAr: hey hey hey |
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| 18:19.16 | implicit | also if you need to add custom header fields and other information for other components on your network then SIP is a better option, since it is not a binary protocol |
| 18:19.16 | PakiPenguin | r |
| 18:19.36 | implicit | there are benefits and drawbacks to both protocol |
| 18:19.40 | implicit | depends on your application |
| 18:20.30 | tzanger | anyone else having issues with unlimitel choppy audio today? |
| 18:20.42 | xkev | (state thread == not sending calls to members on other calls) ..most of this is because chan_agent in the middle is highly flawed |
| 18:20.43 | tzanger | my other termination providers don't have any problems |
| 18:20.45 | xkev | wrong window |
| 18:21.47 | nestAr | so, did uhh polycom ever give us a way to disable call waiting? i've been way out of the loop for the summer. |
| 18:24.37 | nestAr | i'll take that as i expected.. NO. :) |
| 18:27.30 | *** join/#asterisk generalhan (i=general_@ip67-90-64-2.z64-90-67.customer.algx.net) |
| 18:27.41 | generalhan | whats going on everyone ?! |
| 18:28.04 | tzanger | well that hardhdlc seems to be working so far |
| 18:28.05 | shido6 | General Tsoa's chicken |
| 18:28.15 | tzanger | General T'so chicken fucking rocks |
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| 18:28.20 | generalhan | lol |
| 18:28.22 | generalhan | mmmm |
| 18:28.27 | tzanger | god damn now I want some |
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| 18:29.53 | generalhan | does anyone know: can i save my monitor calls to a remote server? like \\SERVER\file-folder\ instead of storing on the asterisk server ? |
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| 18:30.19 | fugitivo | generalhan: network drives are transparent for linux |
| 18:30.19 | Qwell | generalhan: use nfs or something |
| 18:30.50 | generalhan | ~jbot ditc nfs |
| 18:30.52 | generalhan | lol |
| 18:30.59 | generalhan | ~jbot dict nfs |
| 18:30.59 | brookshire | http://store.digium.com <-- new Digium | Asterisk webstore |
| 18:31.14 | generalhan | well that helps none ! lol |
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| 18:32.05 | generalhan | Qwell: what do you mean ? |
| 18:32.48 | generalhan | or.. how? would be a better question |
| 18:32.56 | fugitivo | generalhan: just mount a nfs export to your asterisk box, it'll be transparent for your asterisk |
| 18:33.12 | generalhan | hmm |
| 18:33.24 | SarahEmm | woo, picking up an IP501 tomorrow morning :) |
| 18:33.36 | Qwell | SarahEmm: Did you find out the differences? |
| 18:33.40 | generalhan | so kinda like folder re-direction on Gates' OS |
| 18:33.47 | Darwin35 | I want bbq port loose meat sandwiches |
| 18:33.48 | fugitivo | SarahEmm: IP501 or 500? |
| 18:33.50 | Qwell | generalhan: no, like a samba mount |
| 18:33.56 | Qwell | share* |
| 18:33.57 | Darwin35 | port/pork |
| 18:33.58 | tzanger | bbq pork loose meat? |
| 18:33.59 | SarahEmm | Qwell: yeah. 501 has twice the flash of the 500. 500 is discontinued and won't run current firmware |
| 18:34.04 | Qwell | ahh |
| 18:34.08 | SarahEmm | fugitivo: 501. 500 is now discontinued :) |
| 18:34.10 | tzanger | as opposed to what, meat from flabby pigs? |
| 18:34.17 | fugitivo | generalhan: i don't know what you mean, if you mount a network drive on linux, it'll be treated as a local drive, not like windows |
| 18:34.20 | tzanger | er as oppose to what, meat from toned pigs? |
| 18:34.27 | fugitivo | SarahEmm: what's the difference? |
| 18:34.31 | Qwell | I'd much rather have meat from a fat pig |
| 18:34.38 | Qwell | mmm, mmm, mmm |
| 18:34.41 | SarahEmm | fugitivo: read what i just typed :) |
| 18:34.46 | Darwin35 | big old sucking pig |
| 18:34.58 | fugitivo | SarahEmm: I see :) |
| 18:35.13 | Darwin35 | roasted and toasted on the bbq for 4 to 5 hours slowly |
| 18:35.19 | SarahEmm | the 501 is also $6 more ;) |
| 18:35.46 | xkev | 500==400==100, old shit |
| 18:36.56 | shido6 | we call that |
| 18:37.00 | shido6 | pulled pork sandwhiches |
| 18:37.11 | shido6 | banana peppers |
| 18:37.19 | shido6 | a little sauce.. |
| 18:37.47 | Darwin35 | that sounds yummy |
| 18:37.48 | Beirdo | mmmm. |
| 18:38.04 | Darwin35 | with home made honeysour bbq sause |
| 18:38.12 | Beirdo | jack daniels BBQ |
| 18:38.18 | Darwin35 | that also |
| 18:38.20 | Beirdo | :) |
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| 18:39.58 | tzanger | sucking pig? |
| 18:40.21 | tzanger | shut up shut up shut up now I want general tso chicken and really good bbq pork |
| 18:41.18 | Corydon-w | Jack Daniels distillery is just down the road from me |
| 18:41.31 | Qwell | Corydon-w: So you'll be bringing a shitload of jack to astricon? :) |
| 18:41.47 | Beirdo | Corydon-w: you live near Lynchburg? lucky guy |
| 18:41.52 | alrs | is there a sub-$550 method for getting into astricon? |
| 18:42.02 | Beirdo | was down there early June |
| 18:42.08 | Qwell | alrs: there are quite a few packages...astricon.net |
| 18:42.19 | Beirdo | nice area, but I dunno that I could live there |
| 18:42.22 | Corydon-w | can't make it to Astricon this year |
| 18:42.37 | Beirdo | nice people though :) |
| 18:42.40 | Corydon-w | Beirdo: I live in central TN |
| 18:42.45 | Beirdo | ah, cool |
| 18:42.55 | Beirdo | I was visiting a friend that lives near Jackson, TN |
| 18:43.01 | Corydon-w | Lynchburg is about 45 minutes from my home |
| 18:43.15 | Beirdo | we went to Nashville for a bit, Lynchburg, then Memphis |
| 18:43.20 | alrs | Qwell: I was looking for the "I have no job and live locally" package. :) |
| 18:43.25 | Beirdo | fun week |
| 18:43.29 | Qwell | alrs: yeah, thats like $500 |
| 18:43.38 | Qwell | You don't need airfare or a hotel or anything, right? |
| 18:43.56 | Qwell | http://www.astricon.net/2005/pricelist.shtml |
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| 18:44.31 | Corydon-w | Speaking of offtopic things, anybody have a Yaesu FT2500? |
| 18:45.07 | Corydon-w | or an FT-60R? |
| 18:45.23 | wunderkin | heh |
| 18:45.54 | Beirdo | I think a friend might have both |
| 18:46.02 | Beirdo | but I don't have any gear right now. |
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| 18:46.35 | Corydon-w | I have an FT-60R, and I'm looking at getting an FT2500 |
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| 18:48.56 | samueltc | hi |
| 18:49.12 | samueltc | hey any us48+canada toll free provider to recommend? |
| 18:49.23 | shido6 | hrmm |
| 18:49.33 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 18:49.34 | jbot | well, docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk |
| 18:49.34 | ManxPower | ~mailinglist |
| 18:49.36 | jbot | it has been said that mailinglist is Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/ |
| 18:49.41 | samueltc | (to terminate on an asterisk box in ny) |
| 18:49.43 | SarahEmm | samueltc: i use voctel |
| 18:50.34 | samueltc | ManxPower: I had a TDM PCI Master error, I've added an NIC and disabled the on-board one, no crash since 1 week |
| 18:50.49 | ManxPower | samueltc, Nifty. |
| 18:50.50 | samueltc | (you helped me ~1 week ago) |
| 18:50.58 | ManxPower | Good to know another success story with that issue |
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| 18:51.22 | CoffeeIV_ | I have a grandstream 2000, and when I call in to check voicemail, it doesn't send the password when I type it. I have also had problems with dialing certain extensions, it would not "send" the digits after I pressed them. THere is no "send" button on the phone . . . how can I tell it to send the keystrokes ? |
| 18:51.48 | samueltc | configure your GXP2000 tu use 'info' dtmf |
| 18:52.21 | CoffeeIV_ | samueltc: is that on the web config for the GXP 2000 ? |
| 18:52.26 | samueltc | yes |
| 18:53.34 | hardwire | blah and 1/2 |
| 18:53.38 | hardwire | I feel like crap today |
| 18:54.30 | pauldy | there is a send button for the gxp-2000 |
| 18:54.37 | pauldy | but you shouldn't need it for voicemail |
| 18:54.44 | pauldy | more likely you need to change the send dtmf |
| 18:55.10 | CoffeeIV_ | samueltc: by "use 'info' dtmf" do you mean set the "DTMF Payload Type:" in the Advanced Settings to "info" ? It is set to the extension (101) now |
| 18:55.10 | samueltc | by default GXP2000 send dtmf in-audio |
| 18:55.35 | samueltc | CoffeeIV_: no somethinmg like rfc2883, info and in-audio |
| 18:55.47 | pauldy | http://yourphone/config_a1.htm |
| 18:55.54 | *** join/#asterisk sivana (n=sivana@mixdown.ca) |
| 18:56.08 | pauldy | DTMF payload type should be 101 |
| 18:56.37 | pauldy | vi sip info |
| 18:56.38 | tzanger | holy shit sangoma's coming out swinging |
| 18:56.49 | samueltc | Send DTMF: in-audio via RTP (RFC2833) via SIP INFO |
| 18:56.51 | pauldy | err via SIP INFO is the option |
| 18:56.52 | CoffeeIV_ | aha -- there is a "via SIP info" |
| 18:57.01 | CoffeeIV_ | yes, just found it |
| 18:57.17 | pauldy | just fyi I use via RTP (RFC2833) |
| 18:57.32 | modulus_ | bleh |
| 18:58.20 | modulus_ | anyone know about voice activation on asterisk? |
| 18:58.24 | paulc | tzanger: what's going on with Sangoma? |
| 18:58.31 | modulus_ | like speech to text type of stuff? |
| 18:59.08 | CoffeeIV_ | samueltc and pauldy: thanks a ton, I have it working now (with the "via SIP INFO" ) |
| 19:00.34 | modulus_ | jbot, voice activation? |
| 19:00.42 | modulus_ | jbot, ass tricks? |
| 19:00.44 | Qwell | ~vad |
| 19:00.46 | jbot | rumour has it, vad is Voice Activity Detection |
| 19:00.47 | modulus_ | jbot, asstricks? |
| 19:00.48 | jbot | hmm... asstricks is #asstricks, the underground gay Asterisk channel. Be afraid, very afraid |
| 19:00.56 | SarahEmm | woooo asstricks |
| 19:01.55 | *** join/#asterisk earthsound (n=webmonke@138.26.35.115) |
| 19:02.10 | mogorman | hey where is the site that has statistics about the channel |
| 19:02.21 | Qwell | ~stats |
| 19:02.22 | jbot | Since Sun Oct 2 07:17:18 2005, there have been 0 modifications, 49 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 99 commands. I have been awake for 1d 11h 45m 3s this session, and currently reference 109281 factoids. I'm using about 18532 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 3018.59/132.56 child 0.13/0.05 |
| 19:02.33 | Qwell | the bot had it somewhere... |
| 19:10.03 | *** join/#asterisk jbot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 19:10.03 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk 1.2.0 Beta1 - http://www.asterisk.org || Astricon 2005 - Anaheim, CA - Oct 12-14 - http://www.astricon.net/2005 - Sign Up Now! |
| 19:10.09 | pauldy | [ViRii], I couldn't get alsa to work I used the oss |
| 19:10.20 | Qwell | jbot: sorry |
| 19:10.21 | jbot | Don't be sorry...just don't do it. |
| 19:10.32 | modulus_ | jbot, sphinx? |
| 19:10.54 | pauldy | I"m digging for a nice rpm fc4 version of sphinx right now |
| 19:11.14 | pauldy | http://turnkey-solution.com/asterisk-sphinx.html |
| 19:11.32 | ender | Can anybody help me understand the processes behind bridging calls? |
| 19:12.08 | anthm | do you have a theaporist on call for aftarwards? |
| 19:12.13 | modulus_ | jbot sphinx? |
| 19:12.15 | jbot | Sphinx is a speaker-independent large vocabulary continuous speech recognizer under Berkeley's style license. http://sourceforge.net/projects/cmusphinx/ http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/html/cmusphinx.php http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/sphinx/Sphinx.html |
| 19:12.19 | ender | anthm: yes |
| 19:12.37 | ender | anthm: honestly I'm trying ot get some ideas why my asterisk setup fails to bridge one out of every 5 or so calls. |
| 19:12.52 | anthm | turn debug logger on and it will tell you |
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| 19:13.25 | pauldy | asterisk -c -vvvv -dddd |
| 19:14.05 | ender | anthm: which peice should I debug? iax? zap? sip? |
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| 19:14.25 | ender | anthm: all of them are involved for each call out/in. |
| 19:15.07 | anthm | edit logger.conf and add debug to the console |
| 19:15.10 | anthm | then make the calls |
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| 19:15.23 | anthm | when it fails it will spell it out on the console then |
| 19:15.46 | }cytrak{ | I got a PBX with trunk lines ... should I use the digium TDM400P with that ? |
| 19:16.11 | ender | anthm: I was afraid of that. Thats a TON of noise to sort through across 2 servers ): |
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| 19:17.13 | anthm | save it to a file then |
| 19:17.28 | anthm | and scan for "bridge" |
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| 19:18.07 | pauldy | }cytrak{, you could depends on what your trying to do |
| 19:19.53 | pauldy | "Sphinx is a speed recognition system written purely in Java" how does something like that sit for over a year without someone fixing it |
| 19:20.52 | shido6 | heh |
| 19:21.17 | shido6 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.19 | shido6 | ? |
| 19:21.28 | shido6 | sarah asked you that a while ago |
| 19:21.29 | shido6 | :) |
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| 19:22.51 | SarahEmm | *nods* |
| 19:22.55 | SarahEmm | what's wrong with that shido6? |
| 19:23.07 | pauldy | ok anyone who uses sphinx should be shot |
| 19:23.19 | pauldy | all java based speech recognition |
| 19:23.30 | pauldy | thats like diggin a hole with a spoon |
| 19:23.42 | SarahEmm | oh, i see now. |
| 19:23.50 | SarahEmm | }cytrak{: you won't get far without answering my question :) |
| 19:23.56 | SarahEmm | 'trunk lines' isn't a kind of line |
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| 19:24.06 | SarahEmm | E&M? T1? POTS? |
| 19:25.08 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: sorry I didn't see you there |
| 19:26.30 | pauldy | he thought you weren't paying attention anymoreand someone else would answer the question differently |
| 19:27.23 | }cytrak{ | all be right |
| 19:27.38 | SarahEmm | i figured pauldy ;) |
| 19:28.51 | froud | what are possible values for q->servicelevel |
| 19:29.05 | Qwell | pauldy: more like a toothpick |
| 19:29.15 | ender | anthm: I'm getting this: |
| 19:29.16 | ender | Oct 3 12:16:41 DEBUG[31334] channel.c: Didn't get a frame from channel: Zap/1-1 |
| 19:29.19 | ender | Oct 3 12:16:41 DEBUG[31334] channel.c: Bridge stops bridging channels IAX2/asterisk@asterisk-1 and Zap/1-1 |
| 19:29.53 | anthm | yah that is a typical reason |
| 19:29.55 | pauldy | Qwell, I've since learned that not all of sphinx is java based just sphinx-4 |
| 19:30.19 | ender | anthm: ok, can you help me understand why I might not have gotten 'frame' ? |
| 19:31.23 | anthm | what is it ? an analog card? |
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| 19:31.38 | ender | anthm: it's a T1 card to a Legacy PBX |
| 19:31.54 | anthm | robbed bit ? |
| 19:32.06 | ender | ? |
| 19:32.14 | Qwell | anthm: nope, he paid cash |
| 19:32.19 | anthm | channelized t1 or pri |
| 19:32.22 | Qwell | I'll shut up now |
| 19:32.31 | ender | Qwell: channelized T1 |
| 19:32.35 | ender | er crap |
| 19:32.39 | ender | anthm: ^^ |
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| 19:32.56 | froud | anyone know what are possible values for q->servicelevel |
| 19:33.01 | anthm | does it happen instantly when it happens |
| 19:33.05 | ender | anthm: yes |
| 19:33.20 | anthm | inbound or out |
| 19:33.40 | ender | anthm: I've only truely seen it on outbound, it _may_ be happening on inbound, I just haven't seen it yet. |
| 19:33.46 | ender | anthm: I'm mostly testing outbound right now. |
| 19:33.55 | ender | froud: I could have sworn they were in the wiki somewhere. |
| 19:34.15 | anthm | so iax hits asterisk and does Dial(Zap/xyz) ? |
| 19:34.27 | ender | anthm: yes |
| 19:34.29 | anthm | and some work and some dont ? |
| 19:34.38 | ender | yep. |
| 19:34.45 | anthm | are you answering in the dialplan ? |
| 19:35.06 | ender | hrm, no, I don't think so. I'm doing switch to link the two dialplans together. |
| 19:35.36 | anthm | which 2 dialplans? |
| 19:35.39 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: I thought trunk lines were a type of line |
| 19:35.54 | SarahEmm | no... |
| 19:36.08 | SarahEmm | you need more detail than 'trunk' |
| 19:36.25 | }cytrak{ | I guess I got call the phone company ? |
| 19:37.38 | SarahEmm | err no |
| 19:37.41 | SarahEmm | it's your pbx, right? |
| 19:38.06 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: true |
| 19:38.22 | SarahEmm | so the phone company won't help... |
| 19:38.29 | SarahEmm | you need whoever runs the PBX, who configured it and such |
| 19:38.34 | SarahEmm | to tell you what ports are on it |
| 19:38.59 | }cytrak{ | I'm checking the datasheet for that but all I saw was interfaces for digital and analog trunk and also user interfaces |
| 19:39.11 | }cytrak{ | ok |
| 19:39.12 | SarahEmm | err |
| 19:39.15 | SarahEmm | it's likely modular |
| 19:39.22 | }cytrak{ | it is |
| 19:39.23 | SarahEmm | you'd need to know what cards/blades/modules are installed in it |
| 19:39.28 | SarahEmm | do you know? |
| 19:39.30 | ender | anthm: so here is how it goes. Polycom -SIP-> Server1 -IAX-> Server2 -ZAP-> |
| 19:39.46 | }cytrak{ | SarahEmm: in a menute I will for sure |
| 19:39.49 | }cytrak{ | minute |
| 19:39.59 | SarahEmm | k |
| 19:40.00 | SarahEmm | let me know :) |
| 19:40.07 | }cytrak{ | thanks |
| 19:40.19 | ender | anthm: Server1 does a switch => Server2/outgoing |
| 19:40.27 | |Vulutre| | SarahEmm: strange it seems to be using raw still, I am using a util to clear freespace right now |
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| 19:41.29 | pauldy | ok who was asking about voice recognition for asterisk? |
| 19:41.31 | SarahEmm | |Vulutre|: uhhh... that's very strange |
| 19:41.40 | |Vulutre| | yea I thought so too |
| 19:41.44 | |Vulutre| | its not SATA |
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| 19:42.55 | anthm | ender the line in the server2 is like Dial(Zap/x) ? |
| 19:43.27 | Qwell | hmm |
| 19:43.40 | Qwell | if you were to connect two * boxes together via T1/E1... |
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| 19:43.48 | Qwell | it'd be best to use E1, wouldn't it? |
| 19:43.56 | ender | anthm: yep |
| 19:43.59 | Qwell | to pump more channels through |
| 19:44.03 | SarahEmm | yeah, you get more channels |
| 19:44.10 | Qwell | E1 is still 64k, right? |
| 19:44.19 | SarahEmm | *nods* |
| 19:44.21 | JerJer | but is E-1 support as stable as T-1 ? |
| 19:44.36 | anthm | maybe it the other end is busy but it answeers anyway and tricks asterisk into thinking it's ok to bridge |
| 19:44.47 | tzanger | JerJer: it's the same damn thing as far as zaptel's concerned |
| 19:44.48 | JerJer | l-fy seems to bitch pretty loudly about E-1 support in Asterisk/zaptel/libpri - whatever the case maybe |
| 19:44.51 | tzanger | some HDLC differences but tha'ts it |
| 19:45.06 | ender | anthm: hrm... no, there is no activity. |
| 19:46.01 | anthm | bottom line is your zap channel's fd has an event telling the bridge code to read from it which subsequently results in no frame indicating the line is not up |
| 19:46.18 | anthm | so debug your hw and t1 line |
| 19:46.28 | ender | damn. |
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| 19:46.32 | anthm | check the timing and all that kinda stuff |
| 19:46.37 | ender | the T1 leads to an old PBX which I can't really 'debug' |
| 19:46.43 | ender | ok. |
| 19:46.55 | anthm | is it a single port t1 ? |
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| 19:47.06 | ender | I think soon we will skip the PBX and go straight to a PRI for ingoing/outgoing calls, but still need the T1 for calling legacy PBX extensions. |
| 19:47.17 | ender | anthm: it's a dual port card, only one port in use. |
| 19:47.36 | anthm | you could put a crossover back into the same box |
| 19:47.47 | ender | anthm: I'm using em_w, could it possibly be the wink time that is causing me grief? |
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| 19:48.01 | hardwire | hey |
| 19:48.05 | hardwire | I am 26 |
| 19:48.08 | anthm | not usually ? |
| 19:48.08 | hardwire | anyone else here 26? |
| 19:48.14 | hardwire | or thereabouts |
| 19:48.19 | SarahEmm | err... i'm 23, why? |
| 19:48.24 | hardwire | how much do you make? |
| 19:48.27 | SarahEmm | uhh |
| 19:48.29 | SarahEmm | what? |
| 19:48.31 | ender | hardwire: 24... |
| 19:48.38 | hardwire | I make $56,000/year |
| 19:48.43 | xkev | 27 here |
| 19:48.43 | anthm | when it does work is it clear? |
| 19:48.43 | ender | hardwire: thats a rather personal question and very subjective. |
| 19:48.47 | hardwire | is that good for my age? |
| 19:48.49 | SarahEmm | uhh |
| 19:48.51 | SarahEmm | it depends where you live |
| 19:48.53 | SarahEmm | and what you do |
| 19:48.56 | SarahEmm | and lots of other stuff |
| 19:48.56 | ender | anthm: very clear. |
| 19:48.59 | Beirdo | and who you do |
| 19:49.00 | Beirdo | errr. |
| 19:49.04 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 19:49.04 | SarahEmm | that too. |
| 19:49.10 | ender | hardwire: depends on where you live, what you do, etc... |
| 19:49.13 | hardwire | SarahEmm: yeh.. its kinda personal :) |
| 19:49.18 | Qwell | ROFL |
| 19:49.21 | hardwire | ender: should I be making more? |
| 19:49.21 | SarahEmm | where do you live and what do you do hardwire? |
| 19:49.27 | SplasPood | yea depends VERY much on where you live |
| 19:49.28 | Qwell | when using a calculator...make sure you're in dec mode, and not bin |
| 19:49.34 | hardwire | Anchorage, AK.. and I am a systems engineer for the most part |
| 19:49.38 | Qwell | boy was that confusing |
| 19:49.41 | SarahEmm | hr |
| 19:49.45 | Beirdo | I'd want isolation pay :) |
| 19:49.48 | SarahEmm | i don't know what the cost of living is like in anchorage. |
| 19:49.51 | SarahEmm | it was expensive to visit :) |
| 19:49.54 | hardwire | with no college education |
| 19:49.57 | ender | hardwire: depends on the cost of living, your job, your duties, your experience, your tenure w/ the company, etc.... |
| 19:50.00 | SplasPood | ok, yea prolly AK is on the low end of the salary scale.. Although it is out in the middle of nowhere and thus hard to find people.. |
| 19:50.11 | pauldy | hrm anyone know if *1.2 supports any type of interface that would enable a more efficient means of handling voice recognition |
| 19:50.13 | hardwire | its a high cost of living |
| 19:50.22 | SarahEmm | SplasPood: i dunno about that, it's high cost of living there... |
| 19:50.22 | Qwell | pauldy: Whatever is in head |
| 19:50.24 | ender | hardwire: what does it cost to buy a 2bedroom house? |
| 19:50.32 | SplasPood | SarahEmm: ahh, never been... why so? |
| 19:50.36 | hardwire | 182,000 |
| 19:50.52 | ender | hardwire: ok, how long have you been w/ the company? |
| 19:50.56 | hardwire | a year |
| 19:51.00 | SarahEmm | SplasPood: i'm guessing because a lot of stuff has to be imported to ther,e it's pretty far out :) |
| 19:51.11 | SplasPood | SarahEmm: thats prolly it |
| 19:51.12 | pauldy | I like getting head just hate to spend to much time reading about it |
| 19:51.12 | xkev | what is the point of this salary survey? |
| 19:51.13 | ender | hardwire: and are you on-call for mission critical services? |
| 19:51.16 | hardwire | SarahEmm: you are mostly right |
| 19:51.18 | tzanger | hardwire: is blitzrage coming up to visit you? |
| 19:51.20 | SplasPood | you'd think they'd have trouble finding qualified tech people tho |
| 19:51.21 | hardwire | ender: indeed |
| 19:51.28 | hardwire | tzanger: not that I know of |
| 19:51.47 | hardwire | I am just sick of hearing I don't make enough |
| 19:51.52 | xkev | hardwire, I don't think you do |
| 19:51.58 | *** join/#asterisk stkn_ (i=nobody@gentoo/developer/pdpc.active.stkn) |
| 19:52.03 | ender | hardwire: well, 56K seems about right for a starting salary (within 2 years) for what you're doing and where you live (VERY general thoughts). As long as you continue to get cost of living and other bumps, you should be fine. |
| 19:52.05 | hardwire | I make enough to support myself |
| 19:52.09 | hardwire | just not my g/f too :) |
| 19:52.15 | mutilator | o_O |
| 19:52.22 | ender | hardwire: tell her to get a job. |
| 19:52.24 | hardwire | ender: see.. thats what I thought |
| 19:52.26 | hardwire | she has a job |
| 19:52.28 | xkev | I paid $176k for a new 3 bedroom/2 bath, but after lawn and such it might be like $190k here.. I make $65k I think |
| 19:52.29 | hardwire | and a college education |
| 19:52.33 | hardwire | and makes $28,000/year |
| 19:52.37 | mutilator | cost of living isn't that horribly bad there is it? |
| 19:52.42 | SarahEmm | a 1bdrm place is about $150k here... |
| 19:52.44 | hardwire | mutilator: its not tip top |
| 19:52.48 | hardwire | mutilator: whats your city? |
| 19:52.49 | SarahEmm | depending where you are... |
| 19:52.55 | ender | hardwire: so together you make 80K~ |
| 19:52.56 | mutilator | city |
| 19:52.57 | mutilator | uh |
| 19:52.58 | ManxPower | Does anyone know what the exttone= option does in /etc/zaptel.conf? |
| 19:53.05 | ender | hardwire: thats a decent income. |
| 19:53.06 | mutilator | i live in bum fuck sticks town, Mi |
| 19:53.19 | hardwire | mutilator: I wanna do a COL calc |
| 19:53.20 | hardwire | so |
| 19:53.24 | hardwire | Detroit? |
| 19:53.25 | Beirdo | there's one of those in MI? :) |
| 19:53.29 | twisted[asteria] | file |
| 19:53.30 | mutilator | mio, mi |
| 19:53.32 | twisted[asteria] | you round? |
| 19:53.43 | Beirdo | mutilator: stop complaining, it's nice there :) |
| 19:53.48 | mutilator | heh |
| 19:53.49 | Beirdo | kinda isolated though |
| 19:54.03 | mutilator | it's only nice becaue i provide wireless internet to it |
| 19:54.07 | mutilator | and soon dsl |
| 19:54.10 | hardwire | ok |
| 19:54.11 | hardwire | so |
| 19:54.15 | hardwire | from detroit to anchorage.. |
| 19:54.17 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 19:54.17 | SarahEmm | Beirdo: any idea when the next * meetup is? |
| 19:54.19 | ender | anthm: so if it sounds crystal clear when calls work, then it's most likely not the wink time? |
| 19:54.22 | SarahEmm | or any other toronto people... |
| 19:54.28 | Beirdo | I think it's always last friday of the month |
| 19:54.36 | hardwire | if you make $50,000 you should be making $58,000 |
| 19:54.41 | hardwire | in anchorage |
| 19:54.41 | anthm | i dont know about wink time but it means the t1 appears to be synced right |
| 19:54.43 | SarahEmm | the person at the place i bought my polycom from was asking if he'd know me from them... i should go sometime :) |
| 19:54.57 | mutilator | i dun live in detroit tho |
| 19:55.05 | hardwire | well MIo bum fuck MI wasn't on the list |
| 19:55.07 | Beirdo | nah, you live in the country :) |
| 19:55.09 | mutilator | heh |
| 19:55.13 | mutilator | try farther north |
| 19:55.15 | mutilator | gaylord |
| 19:55.17 | mutilator | saginaw |
| 19:55.21 | mutilator | alpena |
| 19:55.22 | ender | hardwire: Your area sounds roughly the same COL as my area, maybe a bit cheaper. I just bought a 2bed condo for 205K, and I'm pulling in 60K at my new job, sysadmin w/ mission critical responsabilities. |
| 19:55.24 | mutilator | traverse city |
| 19:55.32 | Beirdo | Mackinac Island |
| 19:55.34 | Beirdo | :) |
| 19:55.36 | mutilator | yea |
| 19:55.40 | Beirdo | love to live there for the summer |
| 19:55.40 | mutilator | thats probly more than alaska |
| 19:55.42 | hardwire | condos are $300k easily here |
| 19:55.45 | Qwell | man...my friend just bought a 4bdrm 2.5bath house in Appleton, WI, with a huge den and office, 2 story...$190k |
| 19:55.59 | SarahEmm | Beirdo: you're by the lake, right? |
| 19:56.00 | Qwell | practically brand new too - 2002 |
| 19:56.00 | ender | hardwire: hrm, condos shouldn't be more expensive than houses. |
| 19:56.01 | mutilator | where is wisconsin? |
| 19:56.02 | mutilator | ;) |
| 19:56.06 | hardwire | ender: they are here |
| 19:56.09 | anthm | >=0 |
| 19:56.09 | Beirdo | SarahEmm: yup, base of Bay St |
| 19:56.13 | ender | hardwire: we bought a condo _because_ we couldn't afford a house w/ a yard etc... |
| 19:56.16 | hardwire | we were looking all weekend |
| 19:56.24 | hardwire | ender: condos up here are expensive |
| 19:56.28 | hardwire | houses are middle expensive |
| 19:56.31 | hardwire | townhomes are the low end |
| 19:56.32 | SarahEmm | Beirdo: coolies. |
| 19:56.37 | tzanger | of course... you don't have to shovel snow so it's a selling point :-) |
| 19:56.39 | Beirdo | hehe, where's Wisconsin? Where the cow shit smell comes from |
| 19:56.42 | Qwell | condos are a bitch to sell |
| 19:56.43 | mutilator | i'll live in an apartment |
| 19:56.48 | SarahEmm | <-- in a townhouse |
| 19:56.58 | Beirdo | <-- in a condo, renting it |
| 19:57.01 | hardwire | mutilator: you would probably be paying apx $950/mo |
| 19:57.11 | hardwire | and living much more comfortably than I do |
| 19:57.22 | hardwire | I pay $1600/mo for the house I rent w/ g/f (which I don't rent) |
| 19:57.25 | hardwire | it just came along |
| 19:57.33 | mutilator | and feeds off you |
| 19:57.35 | mutilator | like a leech |
| 19:57.35 | ender | hardwire: ah ok, my condo is considered a townhome. |
| 19:57.35 | Qwell | hardwire: girlfriends usually come with houses |
| 19:57.36 | mutilator | :P |
| 19:57.37 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 19:57.38 | Qwell | rather |
| 19:57.41 | Qwell | houses come with girlfriends |
| 19:57.42 | [ViRii] | dont they all? |
| 19:57.43 | hardwire | Qwell: isn't it odd? |
| 19:57.51 | Beirdo | hardwire: you don't rent girlfriends, you pay a mortgage for sure |
| 19:57.51 | hardwire | no offense to the chickies in here |
| 19:58.01 | Qwell | Beirdo: and taxes, and fees, and... |
| 19:58.03 | hardwire | she wants me to make more |
| 19:58.07 | Beirdo | ah yes. |
| 19:58.10 | hardwire | in reality.. I will.. given time |
| 19:58.13 | Qwell | insurance... |
| 19:58.14 | Qwell | expensive |
| 19:58.15 | Beirdo | and no resale value |
| 19:58.16 | hardwire | what I would like to see is her making more :) |
| 19:58.17 | mutilator | more... |
| 19:58.25 | hardwire | she has the education.. |
| 19:58.26 | ender | hardwire: $1600? You could have a mortgage for that much, especially on a 180K house |
| 19:58.27 | Qwell | Beirdo: it costs money to resell, depending on the length of time |
| 19:58.33 | tzanger | Beirdo: you have no idea how true that is :-9 |
| 19:58.34 | Beirdo | yup |
| 19:58.35 | hardwire | ender: I can buy soon |
| 19:58.36 | tzanger | er :-( |
| 19:58.36 | Qwell | recurring resale costs even |
| 19:58.37 | Insanity5 | Hmm, what to do with 7 unloked vonage spa-2000 that were free after mail in rebate? :) |
| 19:58.43 | hardwire | I couldn't doe to my credit which I cleaned up |
| 19:58.47 | ender | hardwire: ah. |
| 19:58.47 | Qwell | Insanity5: ship one this way |
| 19:58.52 | Beirdo | tzanger: you'd better hope she never sees that |
| 19:58.53 | tzanger | Insanity5: ebay |
| 19:59.02 | Insanity5 | tzanger - Kind of what I figured |
| 19:59.04 | tzanger | Beirdo: I don't care, we're not together |
| 19:59.08 | Beirdo | oh |
| 19:59.10 | hardwire | doh |
| 19:59.11 | Beirdo | gotcha |
| 19:59.11 | mutilator | i need to make 50k |
| 19:59.14 | Insanity5 | I bought them all cause they were free, but now I realize that I don't have a use for that many. |
| 19:59.17 | ender | hardwire: I"d feel good about your income. Especially if you enjoy your work and like th ecompany you work for. |
| 19:59.19 | mutilator | i could have a 20 bedroom palace around here |
| 19:59.19 | hardwire | mutilator: I need to make another 50k |
| 19:59.19 | bendy24 | Beirdo: this is irc... comepletly anonymous |
| 19:59.28 | Qwell | mutilator: You know...I said that last month |
| 19:59.29 | hardwire | ender: yeh.. I try |
| 19:59.32 | Qwell | mutilator: you know what I'm saying now? |
| 19:59.35 | ender | hardwire: that particular quality of life outweighs more $$ by a long way. |
| 19:59.37 | hardwire | but that constant bitching.. from the g/f.. |
| 19:59.37 | Qwell | "I need to make $60k" |
| 19:59.43 | hardwire | who should be very understanding :) |
| 19:59.51 | bendy24 | hardwire: duct tape |
| 19:59.57 | ender | hardwire: thats a _big_ red alarm there. |
| 19:59.57 | hardwire | bendy :) |
| 20:00.02 | mutilator | yea |
| 20:00.03 | Insanity5 | Qwell - They're free after MIB at staples right now if you can find one :P |
| 20:00.05 | hardwire | ender: well .. she has high expectations |
| 20:00.06 | mutilator | i'm no where near that tho |
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| 20:00.12 | hardwire | we are going to a councilor to help lower them |
| 20:00.12 | Qwell | Insanity5: unlocked? |
| 20:00.16 | hardwire | thats for sure |
| 20:00.16 | mutilator | i'm taken advantage of |
| 20:00.22 | hardwire | mutilator: isn't that how it usually is |
| 20:00.25 | ender | hardwire: if she loved you, she'd care more about your happiness than your paycheck. |
| 20:00.26 | mutilator | heh |
| 20:00.29 | Insanity5 | Qwell - locked. |
| 20:00.30 | hardwire | ender: she does |
| 20:00.36 | mutilator | how much ya think i make? |
| 20:00.36 | Qwell | Insanity5: you flashed it? |
| 20:00.37 | hardwire | happyness == a house we can't afford |
| 20:00.41 | Insanity5 | Qwell - unlock them with these instructions - http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14450684~days=9999 |
| 20:00.44 | hardwire | or couldn't |
| 20:00.48 | Qwell | Insanity5: toss one my way. ;] |
| 20:00.48 | hardwire | and being debt free |
| 20:00.51 | hardwire | I agree with her on that |
| 20:00.55 | tzanger | my ex-wife was like that |
| 20:00.59 | hardwire | I just wish she would show a slight bit more patience |
| 20:01.05 | hardwire | I are 26. |
| 20:01.08 | hardwire | I are young |
| 20:01.09 | tzanger | it's okay honey, go and work some more, we could use the money |
| 20:01.12 | hardwire | I can wait |
| 20:01.14 | tzanger | then it was "I miss you, you're never around" |
| 20:01.17 | ender | hardwire: nah, happiness is looking forward to work each day and not loading shells into a gun to take otu some co-workers. |
| 20:01.19 | bendy24 | you could pimp her out a bit |
| 20:01.20 | tzanger | but the desire for the new stuff never waned |
| 20:01.27 | hardwire | ender: which I did today |
| 20:01.31 | Qwell | tzanger: let me guess, she had no job? |
| 20:01.33 | hardwire | becauswe I have very very dumb co-workers |
| 20:01.39 | mutilator | yea |
| 20:01.42 | mutilator | well |
| 20:01.45 | mutilator | it's like.. |
| 20:01.48 | tzanger | Qwell: by choice, we both agreed that it was best for the kids to be raised by one parent than by a sitter |
| 20:01.50 | mutilator | actaully |
| 20:01.53 | mutilator | i got a 50 cent raise! |
| 20:01.59 | Insanity5 | hardwire - I'm 22, own a house valued at $280k, and earn less than all of you have said so far. It sux making the payments. |
| 20:02.00 | bendy24 | Beirdo: are you sure you want to get married now? |
| 20:02.06 | mutilator | yesterday or somethin |
| 20:02.08 | ender | hardwire: tell her that she's more than welcome to pick up a second job to help feed the house fund. |
| 20:02.12 | hardwire | "are you coming to the potluck on friday?" .. no I am out that day .. "Oh well here is what we need somebody to bring can you manage to bring something?" |
| 20:02.17 | Insanity5 | hardwire - and single :) |
| 20:02.18 | Beirdo | bendy24: damn straight I'm sure |
| 20:02.23 | bendy24 | gah |
| 20:02.24 | Insanity5 | Don't know if that helps or hurts, hehe. |
| 20:02.24 | hardwire | Chick Chick |
| 20:02.31 | hardwire | loads |
| 20:02.32 | bendy24 | someone help Beirdo |
| 20:02.37 | bendy24 | :) |
| 20:02.39 | Qwell | Insanity5: staples.com too, or just in store? |
| 20:02.44 | bendy24 | :O |
| 20:02.46 | hardwire | ender: she is trying |
| 20:02.49 | hardwire | just not very hard |
| 20:02.59 | ender | yet another red alarm |
| 20:03.01 | hardwire | I should be asking for more money.. or looking for another job too |
| 20:03.03 | hardwire | according to her |
| 20:03.04 | Insanity5 | hardwire - Roomies are the answer to almost all house payment problems. But you're maried, so that doesn't always work. |
| 20:03.11 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:03.14 | ender | "I need you to make more money so that I don't have to work so hard." |
| 20:03.14 | hardwire | well |
| 20:03.19 | hardwire | thanks for the therapy |
| 20:03.25 | Insanity5 | Qwell - yes online too, expires 10/8/05, limit 5 per person, but they are out of stock online. Check B&M (brick and mortar) stores. |
| 20:03.31 | hardwire | ender: I have no idea if I am just not seeing that |
| 20:03.35 | Insanity5 | hardwire - Does she have a job? |
| 20:03.36 | hardwire | or if thats just not true |
| 20:03.37 | hardwire | she does |
| 20:03.40 | hardwire | she is a librarian |
| 20:03.59 | mutilator | lets just say.. moving to alaska i'de be making 3.2x what i do now |
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| 20:04.12 | hardwire | mutilator: but you wouldn't |
| 20:04.19 | Insanity5 | hardwire - that's good. At least she works... nothing is worse than the "Best wife" who quits work one she marries. |
| 20:04.20 | Beirdo | then he wouldn't move |
| 20:04.23 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:04.25 | ender | hardwire: yeah, ti's way easy to toss generalizations out there given that I have no idea who you are and who she is, it' just something that would alarm me. Luckily my wife isn't like that and we have a very happy marrige even if we can't afford teh 500K house we wanted. |
| 20:04.25 | Beirdo | he already gets enough snow :) |
| 20:04.25 | mutilator | exactly |
| 20:04.28 | Druken | mutilator: can you get highspeed in alaska?? hehe |
| 20:04.34 | mutilator | yea |
| 20:04.41 | mutilator | except i'de have no control over it |
| 20:04.45 | mutilator | like i do now |
| 20:04.49 | hardwire | ender: she just has unreal expectations |
| 20:04.50 | tzanger | Druken: yes, it comes by way of the fast sled dog |
| 20:04.52 | hardwire | which we are working on |
| 20:05.02 | hardwire | I want to put out the red alarms |
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| 20:05.14 | ender | hardwire: I would highly recommend professional help in dealing w/ that, if you care about her and the relationship that is. |
| 20:05.20 | hardwire | we are |
| 20:05.28 | ender | good. |
| 20:05.28 | hardwire | we had a session today infact |
| 20:05.35 | tzanger | the easiest way is to just lay it oall out and together go through and see how it can be done |
| 20:05.49 | hardwire | she is really pissed that I just don't care about money either |
| 20:05.51 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:05.52 | tzanger | my experience is that most issues like this come up because one side or the other doesn't fully understand the ramifications of what is wanted |
| 20:05.54 | hardwire | I don't look at the bills |
| 20:06.01 | hardwire | I just don't have a mind for it |
| 20:06.01 | ender | hehe |
| 20:06.06 | ender | my wife preferrs it that way |
| 20:06.09 | hardwire | I fall asleep thinking about it |
| 20:06.19 | ender | I let her handle all the $$, she just lets me know how much I can spend any given week. |
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| 20:06.25 | ender | it works out very well |
| 20:06.28 | hardwire | ender: thats how it works out now |
| 20:06.28 | Druken | i'd go insane not knowing if the bills are paid... |
| 20:06.34 | tzanger | ender: that's how my marriage was, it worked out great |
| 20:06.44 | hardwire | but when she gets pissed about money.. she calls me neglagent in doing my share |
| 20:06.44 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:06.45 | hardwire | so |
| 20:06.46 | hardwire | wtf |
| 20:06.55 | Insanity5 | online billpay is your friend =) |
| 20:06.59 | hardwire | yes it is |
| 20:07.00 | ender | Druken: I have extreme trust for my wife. 6~ years of her handling them and not a single screwup. |
| 20:07.11 | hardwire | Insanity5: we do that.. sooooo.. I don't know what she is bitching about |
| 20:07.25 | hardwire | ender: so far she has yet to screw up.. |
| 20:07.27 | hardwire | I would have done it |
| 20:07.29 | Druken | ender: i've been paying my own bills since i was 13 |
| 20:07.30 | hardwire | no problems |
| 20:07.32 | syle | your woman works |
| 20:07.33 | hardwire | oops.. screwed up |
| 20:07.36 | ender | hardwire: one of those things were you hav eto work our what the 'share' is. Partners don't have to share in every duty. She does bills, maybe you do the yardwork or something stupid like that. |
| 20:07.39 | hardwire | syle: ? :( |
| 20:07.45 | ender | Druken: I was too, although I was very poor at it. |
| 20:07.45 | Insanity5 | hardwire - Why does she think you're negligent> |
| 20:07.45 | Insanity5 | In her mind, anyways. |
| 20:07.45 | syle | i wouldn;t let my woman work |
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| 20:07.53 | syle | she can stay home and take care of the kids |
| 20:07.57 | hardwire | ender: I cook her gourmet meals every nice |
| 20:07.58 | hardwire | night |
| 20:08.03 | hardwire | and do the dishes afterward |
| 20:08.07 | bendy24 | :O |
| 20:08.09 | bendy24 | lies! |
| 20:08.13 | hardwire | its true |
| 20:08.14 | ender | hardwire: there ya go. That seems like a fair exchange. |
| 20:08.17 | hardwire | I know |
| 20:08.20 | hardwire | she can't see it |
| 20:08.29 | ender | hardwire: happiness lies in compromise on things like that. |
| 20:08.30 | hardwire | so I need to find some of the things she thinks is more maintainence than life |
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| 20:08.32 | hardwire | and take up some |
| 20:08.41 | Dorphalsig | Hello? |
| 20:08.46 | Insanity5 | hardwire - Irregardless of what is really is, what does your wife think the problem is? Sometiems you ahve to work from that approach. |
| 20:08.49 | hardwire | Dorphalsig: got marriage issues> |
| 20:08.50 | hardwire | ? |
| 20:09.06 | ender | anyway, I have to get back to real work. |
| 20:09.06 | mutilator | Marraige 101 today in #asterisk |
| 20:09.08 | hardwire | Insanity5: I am back to the duct tape idea |
| 20:09.12 | Dorphalsig | uh? |
| 20:09.16 | shido6 | marriage 101, eh? |
| 20:09.24 | shido6 | dont surprise your wife with os x intel |
| 20:09.25 | bendy24 | DUCT TAPE! |
| 20:09.28 | ender | anthm: thanks for helping me out, I've got a better idea where the problem lies, just not a good idea on how to fix it. |
| 20:09.29 | Uther_P | what do you tell a woman with 2 black eyes |
| 20:09.40 | Insanity5 | hardwire - duct tape? |
| 20:09.42 | Uther_P | nothing, you already told her twice |
| 20:09.44 | Uther_P | hahaa |
| 20:09.45 | shido6 | and whipe out all of her pictures and movies and expect things to be ok for the next few months |
| 20:09.47 | hardwire | Insanity5: unfortunatly if she feels burdoned I am not lightening her load, obviously. |
| 20:09.48 | Insanity5 | hardwire - sorry, I just walked in =) |
| 20:09.52 | ender | Uther_P: I'll see you in 5~10 years, 4 w/ good behiviour? |
| 20:09.54 | Uther_P | just kidding to all you freakin feminists |
| 20:10.00 | hardwire | oh.. somebody mentinod I just shut her up that way :) |
| 20:10.01 | Dorphalsig | I'm having a small issue with ASterisk DISA ... I can log in OK on the system, and it gives me dialtone, but then I try to dial and nothing happens!! |
| 20:10.01 | anthm | ok np |
| 20:10.03 | Insanity5 | hardwire - financially? house chores? work? |
| 20:10.08 | hardwire | Insanity5: really anything |
| 20:10.20 | hardwire | if she feels burdoned... she shouldn't be the only person doing it |
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| 20:10.39 | hardwire | she has huge motivation issues with chores |
| 20:10.41 | hardwire | and .. I do to |
| 20:10.45 | Dorphalsig | hardwire .. you shut everybody up with duct tape? |
| 20:10.47 | hardwire | so the only time things get done is when she bitches about it |
| 20:10.48 | hardwire | and |
| 20:10.56 | hardwire | instead of focusing on them getting done..s he focuses on what means she had to use |
| 20:11.06 | hardwire | Dorphalsig: about to |
| 20:11.09 | hardwire | esp my co-workers |
| 20:11.12 | hardwire | clear duct tape |
| 20:11.13 | hardwire | neat stuff |
| 20:11.28 | Dorphalsig | hardwire ... LOL |
| 20:11.40 | Insanity5 | hardwire - that's a problem, and I commonly see it happen when one person has an idea of what an "Acceptable" lifestyle (workload) wise is, with the other person having a higher level of standards. PErson A splits workload based upon their lifestyle choices which is not 50/50 in the mind and desires of person b. |
| 20:11.49 | hardwire | Either way.. I would like to think my wages are good for my time w/ company and age |
| 20:11.55 | hardwire | respectable for the most part |
| 20:12.01 | hardwire | and I wish I had encouragement that it was |
| 20:12.05 | hardwire | wish wish wish |
| 20:12.17 | Insanity5 | hardwire - Money shouldn't be an issue. Unless you're blowing it all, it's clear you bring in your fair share. |
| 20:12.19 | Beirdo | money sucks |
| 20:12.29 | hardwire | Insanity5: we blow it all on our rent bills and truck payment |
| 20:12.32 | hardwire | we never go out |
| 20:12.35 | hardwire | we never splurge |
| 20:12.39 | Insanity5 | hardwire - What's your rent payment? |
| 20:12.40 | hardwire | I always make dinner |
| 20:12.42 | syle | thats sucks |
| 20:12.43 | hardwire | $1600/mo |
| 20:12.43 | Insanity5 | And how much/mo on the truck? |
| 20:12.51 | hardwire | $275.00/mo |
| 20:12.56 | hardwire | bills apsx $500/mo |
| 20:12.57 | Insanity5 | And did you disclose your income or no? |
| 20:13.00 | syle | 1600 a month for rent |
| 20:13.01 | syle | wtf |
| 20:13.11 | hardwire | syle: its a 3 bedroom house + basement |
| 20:13.12 | Insanity5 | syle - Depends where you live. I think it's a house. |
| 20:13.21 | syle | does that at least include water, electricty and gas |
| 20:13.29 | hardwire | syle: why should it.. |
| 20:13.30 | hardwire | :) |
| 20:13.30 | tzanger | my mortgage is CAD$1200/mo and that's for a decent (1800sqft) house on 3/4 of an acre |
| 20:13.39 | hardwire | syle: it really depends on where you live |
| 20:13.40 | Beirdo | in BFN, ON :) |
| 20:13.43 | Beirdo | heh |
| 20:13.45 | tzanger | Beirdo: :-) |
| 20:13.45 | pjz | leave #asterisk |
| 20:13.49 | ender | 3bed for 2 people? |
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| 20:13.53 | syle | my mortgage is about 600 a month for a 5 bedroom 2200 sq foot house |
| 20:13.55 | ender | thats a bit extreme. |
| 20:13.55 | Insanity5 | tzafrir - SO? I can buy a 1300 sq ft $82,000 house here. It's about lcoation lcoation location |
| 20:14.03 | SarahEmm | tzanger: heh. where? mine's about that and i have <650sq. ft. on zero land |
| 20:14.03 | hardwire | ender: oh. |
| 20:14.05 | tzanger | yes I know, he's in Alaska |
| 20:14.05 | Insanity5 | And that's brand new :) |
| 20:14.07 | hardwire | we have a dog and 5 cats |
| 20:14.12 | ender | so? |
| 20:14.13 | hardwire | its not just two people |
| 20:14.19 | hardwire | the cats need roaming room |
| 20:14.20 | ender | we have 2 dogs and 1 cat and 1 rat. |
| 20:14.22 | syle | well 1k if you add in property tax i guess |
| 20:14.24 | hardwire | and I often work from home :) |
| 20:14.32 | Beirdo | although I wouldn't mind living out where tzanger does |
| 20:14.32 | hardwire | so I need an extra room (need could be want) |
| 20:14.37 | hardwire | and she needs her private space |
| 20:14.41 | Insanity5 | hardwire - Anyways, cost of living is high there. You have $2300 a month in necesasry payments. |
| 20:14.45 | hardwire | its not very large in a matter of fact |
| 20:14.47 | Cresl1n | where does tzanger live? |
| 20:14.51 | hardwire | and renting it had nothing to do with the rooms |
| 20:14.54 | Insanity5 | I can't imagine the two of you make less than $60k. |
| 20:14.55 | hardwire | and more to do with the yard |
| 20:15.00 | Beirdo | south-western ON |
| 20:15.04 | hardwire | Insanity5: yup |
| 20:15.15 | Insanity5 | hardwire - You do make less, combined? |
| 20:15.15 | Beirdo | but more country than me, I'm in downtown Toronto |
| 20:15.15 | tzanger | yes I live in southwestern ontario |
| 20:15.17 | Beirdo | blech |
| 20:15.20 | hardwire | but at the same time.. nobody is offering jobs up here for what I do |
| 20:15.22 | fiber0pti | I have a cisco 7960 and tyring to configure it via the wiki on voip-info. I think we got the TFTP server working fine and the phone begins to look for a SEPxxxxxxx.cnf file versus a SIPxxxxxxx.cnf then it reboots and trys again. |
| 20:15.24 | tzanger | 1.5hrs from Pearson |
| 20:15.27 | fiber0pti | Any ideas? |
| 20:15.30 | tzanger | 40minues from Kitchener/Waterloo |
| 20:15.31 | hardwire | and if they did.. it wouldn't be for much higher at all |
| 20:15.32 | Beirdo | tzanger: yeah, I know :) |
| 20:15.34 | Beirdo | nice area |
| 20:15.46 | hardwire | Insanity5: %56k + $28k |
| 20:15.54 | hardwire | %/$ |
| 20:16.01 | syle | well dude looks like you only got 1 choice, convert your basement into an apartment and rent it out hehe |
| 20:16.13 | Beirdo | so let me get this right, hardwire. |
| 20:16.16 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:16.19 | Insanity5 | hardwire - You should have approx $6400/month pre tax. |
| 20:16.21 | Beirdo | she has the education and the low paying job |
| 20:16.26 | hardwire | syle: since I am renting it I can't |
| 20:16.28 | Beirdo | and she's bitching at YOU to make more? |
| 20:16.38 | hardwire | Beirdo: its a point of view to concider.. and I have |
| 20:16.42 | hardwire | but yes.. thats the way of things |
| 20:16.42 | Qwell | are there any decent unlim providers with local DIDs? |
| 20:16.42 | syle | omg your only renting |
| 20:16.45 | syle | just move lol |
| 20:16.47 | Beirdo | women |
| 20:16.48 | Qwell | something better than broadvoice... |
| 20:16.49 | hardwire | syle: I couldn't |
| 20:16.49 | Beirdo | heh |
| 20:16.49 | ender | hardwire: Yeah, I think you're overpaying your living expenses, especially if you're renting. You should move somewhere smaller and save up the extra $$ for a down payment on a house, which could end up being lower montly mortgage anyway for a similar sized place. |
| 20:16.56 | hardwire | I had bad credit which didn't help w/ getting a house |
| 20:16.59 | hardwire | thats cleared up now |
| 20:17.01 | hardwire | and we are house hunting |
| 20:17.07 | fiber0pti | anyone have any experience setting up a cisco 7960 with SIP? |
| 20:17.08 | hardwire | syle: and you know.. contracts.. |
| 20:17.11 | Beirdo | look at it objectively, and she should realize it's not your problem, etc. |
| 20:17.31 | syle | renting contracts are easy to get out of, just sublet |
| 20:17.37 | Insanity5 | hardwire - food for thought, if you bought a hosue with a $1700/mo payment, you can have $450 more/month in your paycheck due to an increase in dependents on your w-4. |
| 20:17.44 | hardwire | ender: thats something we don't need to really concider as first toime home buyers in an emerging population |
| 20:17.51 | syle | owner only gives a shit he gets same amount per month he was getting |
| 20:18.01 | hardwire | because the entry costs are a ton lower |
| 20:18.06 | hardwire | and the payments a lot fairer for first timers |
| 20:18.12 | ender | hardwire: true, you could do a 0-down like we did |
| 20:18.15 | ender | 80/20 loan. |
| 20:18.24 | hardwire | Insanity5: its more than food for thought. |
| 20:18.27 | hardwire | its money in pocket |
| 20:18.29 | hardwire | which is where we are going |
| 20:18.45 | ender | fixed rate for 5 years, pay it up, then sell it at 5 years to move into a bigger place w/ a better down, lower interest and loan amount. |
| 20:18.47 | hardwire | Insanity5: but we aren't married |
| 20:18.49 | Insanity5 | hardwire - I make between 36-42k year. |
| 20:18.51 | hardwire | she is just a wanna-be-wife :) |
| 20:18.53 | Insanity5 | Insanity5 - I am 22 years old. |
| 20:18.58 | hardwire | and I can't claim the dog |
| 20:18.59 | ender | anywho, I'm out. |
| 20:19.03 | Dorphalsig | I'm having a small issue with ASterisk DISA ... I can log in OK on the system, and it gives me dialtone, but then I try to dial and nothing happens!! |
| 20:19.03 | Insanity5 | hardwire - And I make $1750 month hosue payments |
| 20:19.05 | hardwire | Insanity5: talking to yourself? |
| 20:19.17 | Insanity5 | My dependents are listed as 8 and I pay virtually no income tax (federal). |
| 20:19.23 | hardwire | by ender |
| 20:19.24 | Insanity5 | hardwire - Meant to talk to you. |
| 20:19.25 | hardwire | thanks |
| 20:19.27 | SarahEmm | 8? |
| 20:19.38 | Insanity5 | hardwire - I'm single too. |
| 20:19.41 | syle | 8 dependants |
| 20:19.42 | syle | wtf |
| 20:19.44 | hardwire | how doy ou have dependants? |
| 20:19.44 | syle | how |
| 20:19.50 | SarahEmm | Insanity5: how do you have 8 dependents at 22? |
| 20:19.52 | Beirdo | if I could claim my computers as dependants, I'd pay no tax |
| 20:19.53 | Insanity5 | SarahEmm - Yes, 8 dependents is sufficient witholding to cover all my tax oblications. |
| 20:19.54 | hardwire | cardboard cut outs don't cut it |
| 20:19.57 | hardwire | they need SSN's :_) |
| 20:20.07 | bendy24 | what is your visa # and ssn #? |
| 20:20.11 | mutilator | heh |
| 20:20.14 | bendy24 | also, your home address? |
| 20:20.18 | mutilator | i claim 1 |
| 20:20.21 | Qwell | claiming dependents on your W2 or whatever, is fine, just as long as you don't actually file with false dependents |
| 20:20.22 | bendy24 | i think that is all the info i missed |
| 20:20.25 | mutilator | and usually get back $5 |
| 20:20.31 | Qwell | you'll very likely end up owing at the end of the year though |
| 20:20.38 | hardwire | Insanity5: you need to keep that sperm reigned in there buddy |
| 20:20.48 | Insanity5 | SarahEmm - dependents, as far as the IRS is concerned, are not kids. It's how much money the IRS should NOT deduct from your paycheck, do to tax time deducations. |
| 20:21.01 | Insanity5 | SarahEmm - While kids give you a set deducation amoutn each, it can be used if you have large non-kid deducations too. |
| 20:21.03 | hardwire | Insanity5: well .. teach us o tax yoda |
| 20:21.17 | Beirdo | the US is soooo odd |
| 20:21.23 | hardwire | Beirdo: ? |
| 20:21.25 | bendy24 | amen |
| 20:21.28 | SarahEmm | that sounds Strange |
| 20:21.33 | fugitivo | mysql is evil |
| 20:21.36 | Insanity5 | SarahEmm - deferred losses, large natural disaster loss, or in my case, $1500/month in interest payments on a mortgage is deducatable. |
| 20:21.37 | hardwire | fugitivo: haha |
| 20:21.50 | bendy24 | Beirdo is my dependant |
| 20:21.53 | SarahEmm | $1500/mo interest means you have 8 dependents? |
| 20:21.54 | Insanity5 | SarahEmm - Because on a $1700 loan, about the first 10 years of it will be $1400/1500 month in interest payments |
| 20:21.56 | hardwire | Insanity5: claiming deductions on interest? |
| 20:21.56 | Beirdo | hah |
| 20:21.57 | SarahEmm | yes, US tax is strange :) |
| 20:22.06 | Insanity5 | SarahEmm - Not always. It depends on your income in realation to your deducations. |
| 20:22.09 | tzanger | you can deduct the interest of your home if you run a business out of it |
| 20:22.15 | Beirdo | US tax is worse than Canadian tax, which is borked enough |
| 20:22.16 | syle | hehe i work at home, i write off part of mortgage to lol |
| 20:22.17 | tzanger | at least a percentage of it, I do that with my house in canada |
| 20:22.26 | hardwire | tzanger: ah.. I don't |
| 20:22.32 | tzanger | 18% of the mortgage interest, 18% of the hydro, heat, telephone, etc |
| 20:22.36 | Insanity5 | tzanger - It's better to "rent" that area to the business. |
| 20:22.37 | hardwire | I just work from home as a remote office whenever I want to shoot people |
| 20:22.41 | Beirdo | 18% of the repairs |
| 20:22.42 | Beirdo | etc |
| 20:22.47 | tzanger | Insanity5: if I'm incorporated I could do that I think |
| 20:23.02 | hardwire | Insanity5: know much about home improvement (value added) deductions? |
| 20:23.15 | syle | 0 |
| 20:23.16 | hardwire | wow |
| 20:23.18 | hardwire | that person was smart |
| 20:23.21 | hardwire | they knew I was pissy |
| 20:23.22 | hardwire | so they called me |
| 20:23.24 | hardwire | vs coming in |
| 20:23.38 | hardwire | I wish more people were like her |
| 20:23.52 | Beirdo | but is she cute? |
| 20:23.54 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 20:23.58 | hardwire | yes |
| 20:24.00 | Dorphalsig | I'm having a small issue with ASterisk DISA ... I can log in OK on the system, and it gives me dialtone, but then I try to dial and nothing happens!! |
| 20:24.02 | hardwire | therefore I wish more were like her |
| 20:24.08 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 20:24.09 | Insanity5 | tzanger - Yup. IRS generally allows you to take waht the house would rent for, take the porportional amount of square footage used for business vs total sq ft, and rent it to the business at that rate. |
| 20:24.25 | Insanity5 | tzanger - Unless market factors dictate otherwise. |
| 20:24.32 | hardwire | Insanity5: but I have no 1099's for that work |
| 20:24.35 | syle | umm no |
| 20:24.38 | hardwire | its all w-4.. so I don't see how that works |
| 20:24.47 | Insanity5 | hardwire - Itemize your perosnal |
| 20:24.49 | syle | you can;t say you are using the whole whole as an office |
| 20:24.50 | tzanger | yeah I have an accountant that worries about that for me |
| 20:24.51 | Insanity5 | as renting to the corp |
| 20:24.51 | hardwire | I have no personal |
| 20:24.54 | hardwire | oh |
| 20:24.55 | hardwire | hahaha |
| 20:25.08 | hardwire | that would fly as far as an old rubber band |
| 20:25.13 | hardwire | atleast w/ this corp |
| 20:25.19 | Insanity5 | hardwire - and the corporation can also deduct lease apyments!!!! |
| 20:25.19 | Insanity5 | So it's a double edges sword. |
| 20:25.20 | hardwire | I work for a native corp. |
| 20:25.32 | hardwire | whcih means they are audited mandetory every 2 years |
| 20:25.34 | Insanity5 | Hint: If you can afford it, buy your companies building (personally) and rent it back to them. You both gain. |
| 20:25.42 | *** part/#asterisk froud (n=froud@ndn-165-134-136.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 20:25.50 | Insanity5 | And you own it with no transfer tax if you want to kill the corp (or bankrupt it). |
| 20:25.53 | Qwell | corps can deduct anything and everything |
| 20:25.53 | Qwell | heh |
| 20:25.55 | hardwire | Insanity5: you are really insane. |
| 20:25.56 | *** join/#asterisk jeffik (n=Jeff@CPE0011505c92d3-CM014350000760.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 20:26.02 | hardwire | hence the nick |
| 20:26.05 | hardwire | I can't buy the building |
| 20:26.08 | netsurfer | lol Insanity5 - the local government are doing that here |
| 20:26.09 | hardwire | its a 5 story office structure |
| 20:26.14 | hardwire | :) |
| 20:26.18 | Insanity5 | hehe |
| 20:26.25 | hardwire | our corp is however buying another building to do work in |
| 20:26.25 | bendy24 | forget buildings and houses, lets all buy hummer h1s! |
| 20:26.25 | Insanity5 | Unless it's "condoed" out, you can't. |
| 20:26.28 | netsurfer | selling their buildings and leasing em back |
| 20:26.31 | Qwell | hardwire: give yourself a one time raise |
| 20:26.35 | syle | usually the banks that buy the buildings |
| 20:26.37 | hardwire | Qwell: ? |
| 20:26.38 | Insanity5 | hardwire - No I don't know anything about improvements. I'd imagine if you finance it and it's real property, you can deduct it as such. |
| 20:26.48 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:26.59 | hardwire | Insanity5: so if you are 22 how did you come acrossed all this? |
| 20:27.05 | hardwire | did you grow up with a tax lawyer? |
| 20:27.14 | Beirdo | he started his tax fraud at 18 :) |
| 20:27.16 | Beirdo | err. |
| 20:27.20 | hardwire | I figured as much |
| 20:27.26 | Insanity5 | hardwire - Research while I managed to afford a $270 house on 40k year at age 22. |
| 20:27.30 | hardwire | kinda like that Leonardo kid in that funny catch me iif you can |
| 20:27.30 | Insanity5 | And got approved! :) |
| 20:27.40 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:27.43 | Insanity5 | @ 52%/income. |
| 20:27.47 | hardwire | but where did the downpayment come from? |
| 20:28.02 | Insanity5 | I only had 5%. |
| 20:28.02 | hardwire | a friend of mine is just like you.. except his parents helped finance it.. and he claims all responsibility. |
| 20:28.09 | hardwire | well thats not terrible |
| 20:28.17 | Insanity5 | Which is 15,000. |
| 20:28.20 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:28.22 | hardwire | you had that sitting around |
| 20:28.27 | hardwire | you started off smarter than most people |
| 20:28.42 | hardwire | I don't know anybody in your age bracket with $15k sitting around |
| 20:28.47 | Insanity5 | hardwire - I sold a car I paid off in my earlier years and I had some stuff from a little ebaying on the side. |
| 20:28.47 | Beirdo | I do |
| 20:28.50 | Beirdo | drug dealers |
| 20:28.51 | Beirdo | :) |
| 20:28.52 | Insanity5 | So I drive a $600 car now. |
| 20:28.53 | hardwire | Beirdo: haha |
| 20:28.56 | Insanity5 | But I ahve the house. |
| 20:29.10 | hardwire | Insanity5: you mean eTheft :) |
| 20:29.13 | hardwire | hahahha |
| 20:29.27 | Insanity5 | hardwire - hehe, no, I bought some stuff and a state surplus sale and re-ebayed it for easy $$$ |
| 20:29.32 | hardwire | I had a friend that sold most of Global Crossings gear right under their nose :) |
| 20:29.46 | Insanity5 | hehe |
| 20:29.47 | hardwire | he doesn't work there anymore |
| 20:29.47 | Qwell | hardwire: a "friend", eh? ;] |
| 20:29.57 | hardwire | I somehow inherited a laptop from this friend too |
| 20:29.57 | Beirdo | he makes license plates now? |
| 20:30.01 | hardwire | Beirdo: no |
| 20:30.07 | Insanity5 | hardwire - The mortgage industry is very competetive right now. |
| 20:30.13 | hardwire | he had mental issues |
| 20:30.18 | hardwire | and began beating his frontal lobe in |
| 20:30.24 | Insanity5 | hardwire - They are doing things today (52% loans) with little down that they wouldn't think of just 5 years ago. |
| 20:30.29 | Beirdo | gah |
| 20:30.48 | hardwire | Insanity5: the first time buyers program up here via FHA is amazing |
| 20:30.48 | Insanity5 | hardwire - My loan was a 30 year fixed, interest only would have been at 1400/mo and I could have been approvd with 0 down if the house appraised ok. |
| 20:31.05 | hardwire | maybe not the biggest best thing in the world but for a young couple like us it should work out wonderfully |
| 20:31.10 | Insanity5 | But I didn't want to get locked into an interest only 10 years from now, unable to finance due to higher rates. |
| 20:31.51 | hardwire | Insanity5: you should write a book.. so I can some day get around to thumbing through it. |
| 20:32.10 | Insanity5 | hardwire - Another thing that also helped... I had =0= other debt. |
| 20:32.10 | Insanity5 | No car loans, etc. |
| 20:32.12 | Qwell | hardwire: tax law isn't something you just thumb through :p |
| 20:32.12 | syle | hes talking very simple stuff dude |
| 20:32.17 | hardwire | syle: not to me |
| 20:32.19 | Insanity5 | Infact, the $2,300 that was on the american express corporate card almost held back closing until I got reimbursed and paid it off. |
| 20:32.21 | hardwire | this is why i don't pay the bills |
| 20:32.36 | hardwire | Insanity5: oh.. wehave $50,000 in credit debt |
| 20:32.40 | Katty | hi lads. |
| 20:32.46 | Katty | and SarahEmm |
| 20:32.46 | Beirdo | Heya, Katty |
| 20:32.47 | hardwire | she claims I somehow helped her with $25,000 of that |
| 20:32.51 | hardwire | but I have no idea how |
| 20:32.58 | Katty | hihi Beirdo |
| 20:32.58 | Insanity5 | hardwire - that stuff hurts. and so do the rates. |
| 20:33.00 | syle | 50k holy shit |
| 20:33.05 | hardwire | syle: yeh |
| 20:33.05 | hardwire | get this |
| 20:33.12 | hardwire | our auto bill pay didn't work |
| 20:33.18 | hardwire | she forgot to hit the "active this billpay" |
| 20:33.19 | syle | bet you wish you had a house now, lower interest rate on a home equity loan |
| 20:33.26 | hardwire | and we went from 3% to 17% on that card |
| 20:33.28 | Abbas | hi |
| 20:33.35 | hardwire | and the bank won't admit it has some UI issues |
| 20:33.38 | Beirdo | hardwire: bend over |
| 20:33.40 | Abbas | can asterisk do auto negotiation of codecs? |
| 20:33.45 | Qwell | Abbas: yep |
| 20:33.45 | Insanity5 | hardwire - A mortgage company will take how much it takes to pay off your credit cards over 30 years (which is a LOT! $2,00 is like $40/month) and deducat that from what they loan you. |
| 20:33.59 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:34.02 | hardwire | I remember hearing about that |
| 20:34.11 | hardwire | but that doesn't work for people wanting the First Time Buyer program |
| 20:34.16 | Insanity5 | hardwire - You need to transfer the balance to another (new) card and then back, to zero out the account and get off the default rate. |
| 20:34.22 | tzanger | I got my mortgage through a morgage co |
| 20:34.26 | tzanger | FAR cheaper than any bank here |
| 20:34.27 | hardwire | Insanity5: I suggested that |
| 20:34.29 | hardwire | she got upset at me |
| 20:34.32 | hardwire | but it made sense to me |
| 20:34.35 | tzanger | and I went to the bank I do *all* my banking with first... they didn't even try |
| 20:34.45 | hardwire | the main reason she got upset is because I don't do the bills.. so how would I know whats best? |
| 20:34.47 | hardwire | crap. |
| 20:34.53 | tzanger | went to the broker and I had a mortgage + house warranty for far less |
| 20:34.55 | jarrod | hmm |
| 20:34.58 | Qwell | tzanger: if your bank were also a mortgage company... :p |
| 20:35.02 | Insanity5 | tzanger - Wait for an offeri n the mail, but don't apply for more than a few in a 6 month time frame. |
| 20:35.02 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:35.10 | jarrod | anyone had a problem with dtmf tones playing in the middle of conversations |
| 20:35.10 | tzanger | like prime - 0.75 for first 6mos then prime I think |
| 20:35.13 | jarrod | and people arent pressing buttons |
| 20:35.16 | syle | wtf is a house warranty |
| 20:35.23 | hardwire | Insanity5: explain what you just said? |
| 20:35.29 | tzanger | syle: roof/furnace/etc goes during the warranty period, they fix/replace |
| 20:35.32 | *** join/#asterisk Gunnar (n=gunnar@34.80-203-209.nextgentel.com) |
| 20:35.33 | tzanger | except I did get screwed on that |
| 20:35.34 | Insanity5 | tzanger - I got 5.75% w/ 0 points, no origination or loan fee (effective apr of 5.85%) a couple months ago. |
| 20:35.41 | syle | you mean home insurance |
| 20:35.57 | Qwell | syle: basically |
| 20:35.57 | syle | oww i see what your saying |
| 20:35.59 | tzanger | furnace+oil tank didn't pass insurance inspection, and you can't repair a cracked air exchanger (nobody will take the liability on the weld) so had to have it replaced |
| 20:35.59 | Insanity5 | syle - If any of the "systems" in your house break within the time frame, they fix it. |
| 20:35.59 | file | don't look back, you can never look back! |
| 20:36.10 | shido6 | jarrod - dont leave food around for the gremlins |
| 20:36.11 | Insanity5 | syle - like hot water heater, etc. |
| 20:36.15 | tzanger | house warranty would pay up to $10k to REPAIR but on ly $500 to replace |
| 20:36.16 | tzanger | fuckers |
| 20:36.26 | Qwell | tzanger: what? thats bs, heh |
| 20:36.29 | syle | yeah some mortgage companies offer incentives for you to go with them, like free 10k for repairs or fix this that etc |
| 20:36.32 | Insanity5 | syle - Different from insurance. Typicalyl a waste of money, but it does sell hosues and is good for those who would get set back by a $800 bill. |
| 20:36.49 | hardwire | hey |
| 20:36.52 | tzanger | Insanity5: mine was just part of the deal |
| 20:36.56 | hardwire | the IRC protocol needs one more thing |
| 20:36.58 | pauldy | tzafrir, wtf who do you have warrantehc |
| 20:37.00 | hardwire | a relevance button |
| 20:37.01 | Insanity5 | I didn't get any incentives, but I didn't pay them crap either =) |
| 20:37.08 | hardwire | if you don't feel like you are.. change a slider to how you feel you are |
| 20:37.12 | hardwire | then it changes the colors :) |
| 20:37.30 | Insanity5 | tzanger - I think they're worth like $300-600/yr. |
| 20:37.34 | Qwell | Insanity5: Just your soul, for the next 30 years. |
| 20:37.37 | Insanity5 | tzanger - On a 1500-2000 sq ft house. |
| 20:37.40 | hardwire | I so want a house |
| 20:37.42 | tzanger | I feel the real estate markt's gonna tank soon, I am gonna sell my place in the spring |
| 20:37.44 | Insanity5 | Qwell - lol |
| 20:37.53 | tzanger | rent for a year or so and then buy after the market depresses |
| 20:37.55 | syle | i don;t thionk your not allowed to have house insurance if you have a mortgage |
| 20:38.00 | Insanity5 | Qwell - I just rented out twot of the other rooms for $550/month with all utilities. My payment is only $700-800 plus utils -- what I was paying to rent. |
| 20:38.05 | pauldy | I'm hopping for a tank in the amrker |
| 20:38.10 | tzanger | syle: you MUST carry insurance if you've got a mortgage |
| 20:38.12 | hardwire | tzanger: unless you are a master of your area its hard to say when to buy |
| 20:38.23 | Qwell | and flood insurance in some areas, is required by law |
| 20:38.30 | tzanger | hardwire: agreed, I'm just saying it's gonna be "soon" (gut feeling) |
| 20:38.31 | pauldy | I'm tired of living in a townhome I'm ready to foclose on someone house kick them out and take their home for a steal |
| 20:38.35 | Insanity5 | Qwell - Ummm, not by law. But you don't get a loan without it. |
| 20:38.40 | hardwire | tzanger: high or low? |
| 20:38.48 | Qwell | Insanity5: in some areas |
| 20:38.50 | hardwire | for instance.. our damn governers and house reps are idiots |
| 20:38.51 | Insanity5 | Qwell - It has to be available to yuou by law through a national program though. |
| 20:38.51 | tzanger | hardwire: eh? |
| 20:38.53 | syle | any kind of forced insurance on anyone that owns something straight up should be criminal |
| 20:39.01 | hardwire | and they keep doing things to fuck the house values :) |
| 20:39.08 | mutilator | i need like.. |
| 20:39.10 | mutilator | 70k |
| 20:39.11 | tzanger | syle: I think insurance is a fucking steaming crock of goat shit to begin with |
| 20:39.12 | Insanity5 | back to work. |
| 20:39.17 | hardwire | mutilator: I thought you were happy w/ 50k |
| 20:39.18 | mutilator | and build a 3 bedroom 2 stry house |
| 20:39.19 | tzanger | it's REQUIRED yet the prices aren't fixed |
| 20:39.19 | Qwell | syle: You don't own the house straight up, until you pay it off |
| 20:39.27 | mutilator | then wait a year and sell it |
| 20:39.27 | syle | good then at least someone feels my pain |
| 20:39.29 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:39.34 | Insanity5 | hardwire - You need to find a way out of that credit card debt. I hate to say it, but that's what's killing you. |
| 20:39.37 | Qwell | just as though you don't own your card until you pay it off |
| 20:39.43 | hardwire | Insanity5: its killing her |
| 20:39.45 | Qwell | during that period, you need full coverage (at least in CA) |
| 20:39.47 | hardwire | she doesn't talk to me about it |
| 20:39.52 | hardwire | I don't approach her about it either |
| 20:39.54 | Qwell | s/card/car/ |
| 20:39.54 | syle | you never own your house straight up unless you don;t care about investing |
| 20:39.54 | Beirdo | hardwire: and that's killing you |
| 20:39.55 | hardwire | to busy making her dinner |
| 20:39.56 | mutilator | i'de be happy with .. 20k/yr right now |
| 20:40.00 | hardwire | walkign the dog |
| 20:40.03 | hardwire | ... |
| 20:40.04 | hardwire | ugh |
| 20:40.06 | Insanity5 | hardwire - Bankruptcy isn't an option either with the new bankruptcy laws. You make too much, you'll be put on a payment plan. |
| 20:40.13 | hardwire | I need to take a week vacation just do do bills |
| 20:40.19 | hardwire | and show up at random places with a bug gun |
| 20:40.24 | Insanity5 | lol |
| 20:40.25 | Insanity5 | good luck |
| 20:40.29 | Insanity5 | got 2 go back to work. |
| 20:40.38 | hardwire | like the bank should be able to help reduce those payments |
| 20:40.45 | hardwire | due to the nature of their bill pay system |
| 20:40.49 | hardwire | and how it totally didn't work |
| 20:40.58 | hardwire | like |
| 20:40.59 | Qwell | hardwire: nah, they'll never take responsibility for that |
| 20:41.03 | hardwire | yeh |
| 20:41.05 | Qwell | is the bank the same company you owed money to? |
| 20:41.13 | hardwire | what I want is that bank to give me a card I can move things over to |
| 20:41.19 | hardwire | Qwell: no |
| 20:41.22 | hardwire | Visa |
| 20:41.23 | Qwell | ahh, yeah... |
| 20:41.25 | hardwire | w/ |
| 20:41.32 | hardwire | an airline |
| 20:41.34 | syle | hardwire how old are you? i;m curious wondering what age group actually makes their wife dinner |
| 20:41.39 | hardwire | I am 26 |
| 20:41.44 | syle | hehe |
| 20:41.46 | hardwire | I love food |
| 20:41.52 | Beirdo | I love to cook |
| 20:41.53 | hardwire | thats probably the only reason |
| 20:41.54 | hardwire | and |
| 20:42.00 | hardwire | she can't cook for shit |
| 20:42.02 | Qwell | wtf, you guys need to come over and cook for me |
| 20:42.04 | hardwire | I hate grilled cheese |
| 20:42.06 | *** part/#asterisk Uther_P (n=uther_p@66.180.120.82) |
| 20:42.08 | Qwell | my wife doesn't really cook :0 |
| 20:42.13 | hardwire | she just can't do it |
| 20:42.25 | hardwire | I made pesto fetuchinni the other day |
| 20:42.31 | hardwire | not that hard |
| 20:42.37 | hardwire | tastes yummy in tummy |
| 20:42.37 | Beirdo | and tasty too |
| 20:42.41 | syle | i make my wife dinner a couple times a month, usually order pizza or something lol |
| 20:42.42 | Qwell | I'm too damn lazy to cook |
| 20:42.52 | Beirdo | I'm too lazy to cook for one |
| 20:42.54 | mutilator | my gf can't cook eithe |
| 20:42.55 | hardwire | syle: well when Id on't feel like cooking we get pizza |
| 20:42.59 | mutilator | it sucks |
| 20:43.03 | hardwire | which is like 4-5 times a month |
| 20:43.05 | mutilator | i end up cookin crap all the time |
| 20:43.08 | mutilator | or she orders food |
| 20:43.26 | Beirdo | I just hate cleaning up after cooking |
| 20:43.27 | Beirdo | :) |
| 20:43.35 | hardwire | Insanity5: interest payments are calculated by the year right |
| 20:43.36 | mutilator | like wth did a womans place in the kitchen go |
| 20:43.39 | mutilator | they dunno anything |
| 20:43.42 | hardwire | so if I owe 56k at 17% |
| 20:43.50 | hardwire | by the end of the year I owe 9520.0 |
| 20:43.53 | syle | this is the most un-asterisk chat i;ve seen in a long time, not one person has come in saying i have this sip nat problem plz help yet lol |
| 20:43.56 | hardwire | see |
| 20:44.01 | SarahEmm | lol syle |
| 20:44.10 | hardwire | thats just under half her paycheck |
| 20:44.22 | Qwell | hardwire: depends on the card. it can be daily balance |
| 20:44.26 | Beirdo | and that's just interest to maintain the same debt |
| 20:44.34 | hardwire | at two percent.. that was a week of my work |
| 20:45.08 | syle | i turn 30 january how damn depressing |
| 20:45.14 | Nugget | oh feh. |
| 20:45.25 | Beirdo | syle: take it easy |
| 20:45.32 | Beirdo | I turn 32 in December |
| 20:45.32 | hardwire | syle: thats how old the g/f is |
| 20:45.35 | file | I turn 19 on Thursday, yay |
| 20:45.45 | Beirdo | file: congrats! |
| 20:45.50 | hardwire | file: noooo |
| 20:45.51 | hardwire | you don't |
| 20:45.55 | hardwire | you are older than that |
| 20:45.57 | Beirdo | what's the drinking age in NB? |
| 20:46.04 | cpatry | 21 iirc |
| 20:46.05 | stevej | I have a sip problem, but this is more fun and I need to get home soon anyway. |
| 20:46.14 | hardwire | file: I don't get the mental shit kicked out of me by 18 year olds.. so change your age for the day. |
| 20:46.18 | Beirdo | bah, move to ON |
| 20:46.19 | Beirdo | :) |
| 20:46.28 | Beirdo | or QC. |
| 20:46.30 | stevej | I turn 41 in May. |
| 20:46.36 | mutilator | i turn 22 |
| 20:46.37 | mutilator | in.. |
| 20:46.42 | mutilator | 19 days |
| 20:46.48 | Beirdo | although if you ain't Quebecois, stay the hell outta Quebec |
| 20:46.51 | Beirdo | (heheh) |
| 20:46.52 | mutilator | everyone send me presents! |
| 20:46.53 | Qwell | I turn 40 in like... |
| 20:47.00 | Qwell | 17 years or so |
| 20:47.12 | hardwire | mutilator: whats the date for you? |
| 20:47.23 | mutilator | 21st |
| 20:47.34 | syle | i live in quebec for awhile |
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| 20:47.41 | mutilator | so i guess 18 |
| 20:47.48 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:47.51 | syle | chicoutimi , jonqueire, montreal , st,hillaire |
| 20:47.56 | SarahEmm | i turn 24 in 6 months ;) |
| 20:47.58 | Beirdo | syle: my condolences |
| 20:48.05 | mutilator | (i actually thought it was the 1st today) |
| 20:48.26 | Beirdo | my grandparents used to live in the Gatineaus |
| 20:48.29 | cpatry | syle: really, quebec is great huh? :) |
| 20:48.32 | syle | naw haven;t lived there in a long time, lost alot of my french |
| 20:48.41 | hardwire | mutilator: durr |
| 20:48.43 | Qwell | mutilator: its the 3rd...you thought it was the 1st... |
| 20:48.54 | Qwell | 2 days apart, but you only subtracted 1 day from the result |
| 20:48.56 | syle | if you speak french is great |
| 20:48.57 | mutilator | yea |
| 20:49.02 | Beirdo | syle: you mean you lost your Quebecois |
| 20:49.03 | mutilator | i added a day just incase i was wrong |
| 20:49.05 | Qwell | heh |
| 20:49.06 | Beirdo | :) |
| 20:49.08 | mutilator | but i was wrong anyway |
| 20:49.24 | syle | i can still speak it, have a bitch now understanding it |
| 20:49.39 | Beirdo | Quebecois French is so not "real" French... just like Southern US English isn't "real" English |
| 20:49.55 | syle | people from france are worse |
| 20:50.00 | syle | see alot of those in quebec to |
| 20:50.01 | Beirdo | but I like Quebecois just fine. |
| 20:50.02 | Beirdo | :) |
| 20:50.03 | syle | they talk really fast |
| 20:50.05 | mutilator | the only real english is spoken in states surrounding michigan |
| 20:50.13 | Beirdo | mutilator: nice try :) |
| 20:50.14 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 20:50.15 | mutilator | not including the upper peninsula of michigan |
| 20:50.17 | cpatry | Beirdo: just a diff dialect, but whats real french anyways? |
| 20:50.18 | mogorman | hey now, we southernes speakin the good english around all yall need to quit with yer stereotypes |
| 20:50.28 | Beirdo | cpatry: as spoken in France. :) |
| 20:50.34 | Beirdo | esp. Paris |
| 20:50.41 | Beirdo | snooty bastards that they are |
| 20:50.47 | cpatry | thats not real french neither, just another dialect. |
| 20:50.56 | syle | paris french talks just abit faster with a touch more slang |
| 20:50.57 | syle | bout it |
| 20:51.14 | cpatry | they just use a diff codec :) |
| 20:51.19 | syle | hahaha |
| 20:51.20 | Beirdo | heh, the language is defined as from a certain location though. |
| 20:51.33 | syle | thanks for that cpatry lol |
| 20:51.44 | Beirdo | I like Quebecois just fine though. |
| 20:51.49 | cpatry | syle: u go at astricon? |
| 20:52.01 | Beirdo | my dad tought French as a second language here in Ontario for many many years |
| 20:52.05 | syle | none have come to canada |
| 20:52.06 | syle | so no |
| 20:52.33 | cpatry | syle: where are ya now? |
| 20:52.37 | syle | was going to drive down to that one in chicago, but thought was to long a drive |
| 20:52.49 | syle | winnipeg |
| 20:52.52 | cpatry | k |
| 20:52.55 | Beirdo | and I love "stereotypical" Quebec food... tourtiere++ |
| 20:53.16 | Beirdo | or is that tortiere? I can never remember, but damn it's good |
| 20:53.17 | cpatry | haaa stories about quebec, im out of all that shit :) |
| 20:53.29 | cpatry | tourtiere |
| 20:53.29 | syle | in canada it would most likely be held in toronto or vancouver, the biggest cities here, so i;d prob fly down for one of those if there is ever one |
| 20:53.31 | cpatry | and poutine. |
| 20:53.33 | Beirdo | thought so |
| 20:53.37 | Beirdo | poutine's good |
| 20:53.44 | Beirdo | and fattening :) |
| 20:54.17 | Beirdo | syle: move to St. Bonafice, work on your French :) |
| 20:54.22 | syle | oww man i almost went to that one in europe if it wasn;t for the wife bitching at me, never seen europe that would have been fun lol |
| 20:54.46 | Beirdo | where my French-Canadian grandfather was born :) |
| 20:55.00 | syle | yeah i was born at that hospital |
| 20:55.25 | syle | st.boniface |
| 20:55.55 | syle | well thing is |
| 20:56.00 | syle | if you want french people |
| 20:56.02 | syle | you go north |
| 20:56.05 | hardwire | "hey you are good with computers.. what kind should I buy? |
| 20:56.07 | syle | small towns |
| 20:56.11 | hardwire | "whats cheapest?" |
| 20:56.12 | syle | or north into quebec |
| 20:56.17 | hardwire | "whats that.. you don't know?" |
| 20:56.23 | hardwire | "but you use them!" |
| 20:56.24 | hardwire | ugh |
| 20:56.29 | hardwire | I don't fucking sell them you twats. |
| 20:56.33 | syle | once you go north of quebec city there is no more english |
| 20:56.37 | Beirdo | my grandfather's grandfather (I think it was) was the chief justice in Manitoba in Louis Riel's day. |
| 20:56.41 | hardwire | "but all I need it for is email!" |
| 20:56.50 | Beirdo | Canada++ |
| 20:57.01 | hardwire | canada won't admit me |
| 20:57.06 | Beirdo | yeah, northern Ontario is pretty French |
| 20:57.07 | hardwire | I am about to have a criminal record |
| 20:57.14 | hardwire | next person to walk into my office gets shot |
| 20:57.19 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 20:57.25 | mutilator | O_o |
| 20:57.27 | Beirdo | you only get a record if you get caught |
| 20:57.48 | hardwire | in which case I may already be in canada |
| 20:57.48 | Beirdo | and are found guilty |
| 20:57.52 | Beirdo | just plead insanity |
| 20:57.52 | mutilator | i know how to dispose of bodies |
| 20:57.53 | hardwire | Beirdo: lets put it this way |
| 20:57.55 | mutilator | i watch CSI! |
| 20:57.56 | hardwire | I work in Anchorage |
| 20:57.58 | syle | i lived carribean last summer, thought this would be great place to live, no taxes, everything is cheap, but hell i wouldn;t ever want to live there unless i was vacationing or retiring |
| 20:58.04 | hardwire | there is only one way for me to get to canada |
| 20:58.14 | Beirdo | dog sled? |
| 20:58.15 | hardwire | if I shot a co-worker |
| 20:58.17 | hardwire | in an office |
| 20:58.19 | Beirdo | sorry I couldn't resist |
| 20:58.22 | hardwire | where everybody knows me |
| 20:58.29 | hardwire | and I went through the canadian border |
| 20:58.34 | hardwire | they would get me |
| 20:58.38 | syle | you can;t move to canada and not like hockey hehe |
| 20:58.48 | hardwire | I never have been to ahockey game |
| 20:58.52 | syle | stay in toronto or vancouver then hehe |
| 20:58.52 | Beirdo | yeah, you'd likely get caught |
| 20:58.57 | Beirdo | Ummmm. |
| 20:59.04 | Beirdo | You haven't been to Toronto have you? |
| 20:59.14 | Beirdo | this is the most hockey-crazy POS of a city ever |
| 20:59.26 | syle | i been to toronto |
| 20:59.31 | Beirdo | hell, they STILL cheer for their sucky-ass team that can't win |
| 20:59.32 | syle | use to live on young and davisville |
| 20:59.38 | Beirdo | nice area |
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| 20:59.48 | syle | yeah expensive as hell though |
| 20:59.54 | Beirdo | but you can hide here as a hockey-hater though |
| 21:00.00 | Beirdo | just don't live where I do |
| 21:00.04 | mutilator | well |
| 21:00.04 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:00.05 | syle | paid 1k for a shitty 1 bedroom apt, didn;'t include any utils |
| 21:00.05 | Beirdo | 2 blocks from the ACC |
| 21:00.08 | mutilator | it's quittin time for me |
| 21:00.09 | mutilator | adios everyone |
| 21:00.13 | hardwire | bye |
| 21:00.15 | Beirdo | ciao |
| 21:00.21 | sahafeez | seems to be a ton of docs for asterisk setup (doing it for the 1st time). is there a link to a quick setup FAQ? |
| 21:00.23 | Beirdo | that reminds me |
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| 21:00.40 | Beirdo | need to look up when the next Leafs-Sens game is so I can wear my Sens jersey |
| 21:00.42 | syle | hehe |
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| 21:01.32 | Beirdo | you'd like to be fucking canadians |
| 21:01.43 | hardwire | CILF |
| 21:01.47 | hardwire | Canadian I'd like to .. |
| 21:01.52 | Beirdo | and Alaska's practically Canada anyways |
| 21:01.52 | syle | 5 6 7 8 don;t forget to masterbate |
| 21:01.53 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 21:01.59 | Hmmhesays | what up everybody glad you're here its coolio put the flow back in your ear |
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| 21:02.08 | hardwire | Beirdo: not at all |
| 21:02.12 | Beirdo | you might as well be in Yukon or MWT |
| 21:02.17 | Beirdo | NWT that is |
| 21:02.18 | hardwire | we don't even have canadian beer here |
| 21:02.23 | hardwire | thank gd |
| 21:02.26 | Beirdo | hah, poor bastards |
| 21:02.35 | hardwire | ok |
| 21:02.40 | hardwire | I have gotten 0 things done today |
| 21:02.43 | syle | i checked out yukon and NWT , you think the damn house prices and property taxes would be lower |
| 21:02.48 | syle | but noooo |
| 21:02.51 | Beirdo | our swill's better than US swill last I tried |
| 21:02.53 | hardwire | you know what would make my life just that little stretch of happyness better? |
| 21:02.58 | hardwire | two cars instead of one |
| 21:03.05 | Beirdo | that could help |
| 21:03.06 | hardwire | we are the only people on our block that have 1 car |
| 21:03.09 | hardwire | everybody else has 5 |
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| 21:03.12 | hardwire | 3 broken one in use |
| 21:03.16 | hardwire | and one kinda working |
| 21:03.17 | Beirdo | so "borrow" one |
| 21:03.19 | epablo | Hi people |
| 21:03.20 | syle | if your interested in canadian realestate |
| 21:03.22 | hardwire | file: ? |
| 21:03.29 | syle | www.mls.ca is our canadian real estate site |
| 21:03.37 | hardwire | syle: I don't wanna life anywhere near canada |
| 21:03.41 | hardwire | :) |
| 21:03.41 | Beirdo | screw this nonsense |
| 21:03.50 | Beirdo | hardwire: you ARE near Canada |
| 21:03.51 | Beirdo | silly |
| 21:03.56 | hardwire | Beirdo: am I? |
| 21:04.06 | hardwire | that means that like.. Denver Colorado is near canada |
| 21:04.29 | Beirdo | not as close as Skagway is, but yeah, you are |
| 21:04.34 | hardwire | yup |
| 21:04.43 | hardwire | tell you what |
| 21:04.46 | Beirdo | or your lousy capital |
| 21:04.48 | epablo | Got a server dieing on me a lot.. it using 1.0.9. And I get info like this as the last thing on the console. Any ideas? |
| 21:04.49 | epablo | Oct 3 15:18:23 DEBUG[27430]: chan_iax2.c:5353 socket_read: Ooh, voice format changed to 256 |
| 21:04.49 | epablo | Oct 3 15:18:23 WARNING[29226]: codec_g729.c:196 g729tolin_framein: Invalid data (1 bytes at the end |
| 21:04.52 | hardwire | when we went up the alcan to alaska |
| 21:04.59 | hardwire | and we said hi to you damn canadians |
| 21:05.02 | Beirdo | which is also on land the damn British gave to the US |
| 21:05.02 | hardwire | you were all nice and shit |
| 21:05.04 | syle | hehe i find canadians go to the states for all the same reasons, 1) for drive to get away, in which case closest city they can drive to in the US 2) plane, florida or las vegas ...as far as entertainment goes hehe |
| 21:05.05 | hardwire | it wasn't cool man |
| 21:05.15 | hardwire | and.. your damn Toronto.. pissed me off |
| 21:05.23 | Beirdo | Toronto pisses ME off, and I live here |
| 21:05.25 | hardwire | whoever did the streets there is going in my list of people to shoot |
| 21:05.32 | epablo | I lived in Edmonton.. as a kid.. It was great! |
| 21:05.37 | jero | Beirdo, sad for you |
| 21:05.38 | hardwire | I liked Edmonton |
| 21:05.42 | syle | i stayed in phoenix arizona for awhile you;d be amazed at how cheap flights are down there |
| 21:05.42 | hardwire | we went to the mall :) |
| 21:06.01 | Beirdo | yeah, flying from Buffalo's half the price as from Toronto |
| 21:06.02 | syle | like 69 bucks return to vegas |
| 21:06.05 | Beirdo | just fuckin dumb |
| 21:06.09 | epablo | I grew up with the Oilers winning streek. |
| 21:06.13 | hardwire | Beirdo: seriously.. I got lost 15 times going through toronto.. just trying to go to a hotel. |
| 21:06.14 | hardwire | like |
| 21:06.15 | Beirdo | so I'll take the bus to Buffalo |
| 21:06.17 | hardwire | we could see the hotel |
| 21:06.18 | Beirdo | screw this |
| 21:06.22 | hardwire | but 15 one way streets later |
| 21:06.25 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 21:06.28 | Beirdo | in downtown? |
| 21:06.28 | hardwire | I was finally there |
| 21:06.35 | hardwire | south end.. coming up |
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| 21:06.47 | Beirdo | yeah, downtown is a bitch at times |
| 21:06.49 | syle | don;t feel bad everyone gets lost in toronto |
| 21:06.50 | hardwire | we took an oath.. right then and there |
| 21:06.54 | hardwire | if we ever bombed toronto |
| 21:06.58 | hardwire | we would ride the bomb all the way down |
| 21:07.01 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 21:07.04 | epablo | LOL |
| 21:07.06 | Beirdo | get off the bomb, I want on |
| 21:07.09 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:07.12 | Beirdo | crater this city |
| 21:07.21 | Beirdo | after I leave, of course |
| 21:07.30 | morale | can someone suggest a good hardphone supporting MGCP or SIP for me which is fairly cheap around the 70-100$ range? |
| 21:07.44 | *** join/#asterisk fugitivo (n=ajf@201.255.102.160) |
| 21:07.50 | hardwire | Beirdo: we were looking for a hotel.. so that means it was dark.. and rainy.. and I couldn't see shit either. |
| 21:07.59 | epablo | Topic is bombing Toronto.. LOL |
| 21:07.59 | syle | so you think gas prices will go down next spring/summer? or do we have to vote bush out so he stocks making money on his billion dollar investment in the oil stocks hehe |
| 21:08.05 | brent21 | Verizon quoted me on a PRI however, I believe the sales lady I spoke to had no idea what she was talking about |
| 21:08.06 | hardwire | otherwise I would have set up the tent. |
| 21:08.12 | brent21 | are there any PRI gurus in here? |
| 21:08.15 | syle | stops making |
| 21:08.18 | tzanger | brent21: I can try, what's up? |
| 21:08.18 | Beirdo | syle: buy stock in oil companies. DUH |
| 21:08.22 | morale | brent21, whats your question? |
| 21:08.32 | syle | well if i knew this was going to happen i would of lol |
| 21:08.43 | syle | i think their to high now |
| 21:08.50 | hardwire | syle: the Halliburton down the street from us has random protesters from time to time |
| 21:08.51 | Beirdo | hardwire: we drove around downtown Memphis for half an hour trying to find our hotel |
| 21:08.52 | hardwire | just because of the connection |
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| 21:08.57 | Beirdo | and the driver grew up there |
| 21:09.05 | hardwire | Beirdo: thats sad |
| 21:09.08 | Beirdo | yeah |
| 21:09.09 | hardwire | who lives in NYC here? |
| 21:09.09 | brent21 | Verizon quoted a PRI out at 493.73, after talking to her she said Caller ID was not included in quote, which i thought was odd seing that, that is a service of PRi, anyways, she says that Caller ID across all channels (23 B's) is 140 a month |
| 21:09.22 | arp2 | hardwire, I do. |
| 21:09.30 | ender | brent21: thats strange |
| 21:09.30 | hardwire | We hailed a cab in manhatten |
| 21:09.33 | brent21 | I then ask about DID's, she said that DID's weren't included in quote |
| 21:09.38 | hardwire | and he took us to the airport |
| 21:09.39 | hardwire | but |
| 21:09.39 | ender | brent21: wtf? |
| 21:09.41 | hardwire | he was like.. drugged |
| 21:09.44 | syle | not strange here, they charge more for callerid on the PRI's to |
| 21:09.45 | hardwire | and couldn't find his way |
| 21:09.46 | brent21 | my interpretation was a DID was a phone number |
| 21:09.47 | Dr_Ray | brent - what city? |
| 21:09.48 | hardwire | is that common? |
| 21:09.53 | Beirdo | hehehehe |
| 21:09.55 | brent21 | Arlington, VA |
| 21:09.58 | ender | hrm. |
| 21:10.03 | ender | maybe we just always ask for it. |
| 21:10.10 | hardwire | how do you judge a cabbie? |
| 21:10.12 | Beirdo | I'd have to be drugged to drive a cab too, I think |
| 21:10.18 | hardwire | should you make them take a quick eye exam? |
| 21:10.21 | brent21 | anyways, she said that the lines could be configured as incoing lines if we wanted |
| 21:10.28 | hardwire | Beirdo: he fell asleep twice |
| 21:10.29 | brent21 | which would then have 23 phone numbers attached to it |
| 21:10.31 | hardwire | almost running us off the road |
| 21:10.34 | syle | beirdo: not by living in toronto, they are all packies |
| 21:10.35 | Beirdo | hardwire: if he hands you a joint, bail |
| 21:10.39 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:10.43 | Beirdo | syle: not all :) |
| 21:10.49 | hardwire | it was the 5th of July |
| 21:10.49 | ender | brent21: you should be able to have unlimited amount of DIDs you can assign to your PRI |
| 21:10.52 | brent21 | i always thought with a PRI, essentially if you had 5 phone numbers (DID's) they would point to all 23 lines and use an available line |
| 21:10.52 | Beirdo | we got a lot of Chinese cabbies too |
| 21:10.53 | hardwire | he was probably VERY hung over |
| 21:10.56 | syle | lol |
| 21:11.00 | ender | brent21: you'd just only be able to handle 23 calls at a time. |
| 21:11.01 | Beirdo | he probably was, yeah |
| 21:11.02 | brent21 | and the telco would pass the last 4 digits of the dialed number |
| 21:11.05 | syle | i have never sat in a cab in TO and had a white person lol |
| 21:11.11 | Beirdo | and some eastern european ones too |
| 21:11.17 | hardwire | sorry for the distraction earlier |
| 21:11.18 | ender | brent21: thats my understanding too. I wonder if she thought you wanted to turn each line into a DID |
| 21:11.23 | Beirdo | but most are arab or pakistani |
| 21:11.25 | brent21 | yes, we only need to handle 12 calls at a time, but we need to know for a fact what number was dialed |
| 21:11.29 | hardwire | now 327 people know I have g/f issues |
| 21:11.30 | hardwire | :) |
| 21:11.40 | SarahEmm | mrrrew? |
| 21:11.41 | Beirdo | ah well :) |
| 21:11.50 | brent21 | with our current setup (analog lines) with hunt group, we lose that ability |
| 21:11.57 | Qwell | hardwire: double that number, because she's told just as many people |
| 21:11.58 | syle | hardwire: noone cares, everyone knows how much stress women are |
| 21:12.02 | Beirdo | SarahEmm: you missed the fun... Toronto sucks and we want to bomb it |
| 21:12.04 | Beirdo | hehe |
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| 21:12.12 | hardwire | Qwell: hahaha.. probably not but oh well :) |
| 21:12.22 | tzanger | SarahEmm: heh |
| 21:12.26 | hardwire | Good for you.. bad for us :) |
| 21:12.31 | ender | I have no GF issues. |
| 21:12.31 | hardwire | guys like girly girly |
| 21:12.34 | ender | just don't ask me about my wife. |
| 21:12.38 | ender | (: |
| 21:12.42 | arp2 | hardwire, there are tons of cabbies in nyc, so yah, yer bound to find one thats fucked up. |
| 21:12.45 | tzanger | I have no gf issues. big ex-gf issues but that's beside the point |
| 21:12.45 | hardwire | ender: tgats cyte |
| 21:12.45 | Beirdo | other than she hasn't bloody called me in a couple hours |
| 21:12.59 | ender | hardwire: 'thats right' ? |
| 21:13.00 | hardwire | arp2: yeh.. he was a weee bit something |
| 21:13.05 | Beirdo | stupid work ethic |
| 21:13.08 | ender | hardwire: using some new crypto rot algorithm? |
| 21:13.10 | ender | (: |
| 21:13.12 | hardwire | oh jees |
| 21:13.13 | hardwire | no |
| 21:13.14 | syle | i;m happy when my wife leaves the house, hopefulyl shes gone to see some strippers and be horny when she gets home, a blowjob once in a blue moon usually helps when your mariied |
| 21:13.17 | hardwire | looked away from kb |
| 21:13.34 | hardwire | syle: down there big bot |
| 21:13.35 | hardwire | boy |
| 21:13.41 | ender | syle: you must give in order to get. |
| 21:13.47 | hardwire | nobody needs to know about your private puppet shows. |
| 21:13.58 | hardwire | :) |
| 21:14.00 | tzanger | 'puppet shows' hahahaha |
| 21:14.02 | *** part/#asterisk }cytrak{ (n=kvirc@208.63.19.172) |
| 21:14.03 | syle | hardwrie that was directed at the people 30+ hehe |
| 21:14.14 | hardwire | syle: I don't get b'js |
| 21:14.17 | hardwire | thats just that |
| 21:14.24 | hardwire | so I just don't have that expectation |
| 21:14.37 | Beirdo | that fails to suck |
| 21:14.38 | morale | can someone suggest a decent hardphone i can use with asterisk? also i have one question - i can pop a fxo and fxs card in my asterisk machine and use analog and digital phones right? |
| 21:14.42 | hardwire | Beirdo: har. |
| 21:14.55 | tzanger | morale: polycome ip300/500 series are good sip phones |
| 21:14.58 | tzanger | er polycom |
| 21:14.59 | hardwire | morale: no |
| 21:15.00 | ender | morale: Polycom IP301/501 |
| 21:15.08 | hardwire | morale: fxo/fxs = Analog |
| 21:15.09 | shido6 | cisco 7960 |
| 21:15.14 | hardwire | Sip = Digital |
| 21:15.15 | tzanger | morale: throw an FXS port into your box and you get to hook up a regular phone |
| 21:15.22 | syle | what i find most amusing is when people are together and don;t trust each other, and they just complain and complain about each other, yet you already know they will not be together , yet you still listen to it as an entertainment value |
| 21:15.23 | hardwire | no NEC DTERM allowed |
| 21:15.24 | tzanger | throw in an FXO port and you get to hook up a phone LINE |
| 21:15.53 | hardwire | syle: thats how our councilor feels I bet |
| 21:16.05 | morale | oh.. i thought fxo = digital phones, fxs = analog.. oh ok |
| 21:16.14 | hardwire | but he has faith we can work this out.. he is payed through insurance for alimited amoutn of sessions so he doesn't have any reason to tell us we should work on it |
| 21:16.15 | hardwire | :) |
| 21:16.35 | syle | fxo = analog trunk fxs = analog headsets |
| 21:16.43 | hardwire | morale: Ethernet = Digital :) |
| 21:16.52 | Beirdo | OK, to the bus station I go, then home |
| 21:17.00 | morale | yeah that makes sense now :) |
| 21:17.01 | hardwire | Beirdo: have fun at the puppet show |
| 21:17.13 | Beirdo | one good thing about living and working downtown |
| 21:17.17 | Beirdo | everything's here |
| 21:17.20 | hardwire | I bet |
| 21:17.27 | hardwire | thats so not the case here |
| 21:17.28 | syle | go dance on that music show this weekend |
| 21:17.29 | Beirdo | except the damn airport |
| 21:17.32 | syle | i;ll watch hehe |
| 21:17.37 | hardwire | I have a dog to walk.. He has moose to track.. |
| 21:17.45 | hardwire | downtown isn't very pro-dog-tracking-moose |
| 21:17.45 | SarahEmm | heh |
| 21:17.50 | SarahEmm | the airport's not even in the same city |
| 21:17.58 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 21:18.01 | Beirdo | one of them is |
| 21:18.06 | Beirdo | and it's downtown |
| 21:18.10 | morale | so for asterisk, i really don't need a fxo or fxs card if i have sip phones.. all i have to do is have asterisk talk to the uplink (whomever my provider is) |
| 21:18.10 | Beirdo | but it's not really used |
| 21:18.11 | Beirdo | :) |
| 21:18.12 | hardwire | I live right next tto our airport |
| 21:18.16 | hardwire | which is on the side of the town |
| 21:18.18 | ender | d'oh! |
| 21:18.20 | hardwire | its really nice |
| 21:18.20 | tzanger | hardwire: the lake doesn't count |
| 21:18.24 | syle | morale: yes |
| 21:18.26 | ender | needed 2 packages off the second CD, wouldn't you know it, corrupt. |
| 21:18.30 | hardwire | tzanger: ? |
| 21:18.35 | Beirdo | anyways, talk to y'all later |
| 21:18.40 | hardwire | oh.. for an airport? |
| 21:18.42 | hardwire | thats funny |
| 21:18.44 | morale | alright, thanks for the help |
| 21:18.46 | syle | morale: but i would still install ztdummy driver for timing |
| 21:18.53 | hardwire | cause I live next to the Anchorage airport as well as Lake Hood.. the lake airport |
| 21:19.08 | tzanger | :-) |
| 21:19.08 | ender | morale: you could use a Zap card for say a T1 or PRI line if htat is your 'uplink'. |
| 21:19.24 | ender | morale: or sure, use sip or iax2 to an upstream VIOP provider. |
| 21:19.27 | syle | hes just using sip |
| 21:19.33 | syle | doesn;t need zap card |
| 21:19.36 | ender | morale: you _may_ want an fx line for 911 calling |
| 21:19.41 | hardwire | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=6524+Linden+Dr,+Anchorage+AK+99502&spn=0.025328,0.082436&hl=en |
| 21:19.42 | hardwire | I live here |
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| 21:20.19 | Qwell | hardwire: posting your address on IRC...nice |
| 21:20.25 | syle | brave man |
| 21:20.29 | syle | lets go rape him! |
| 21:20.33 | hardwire | Qwell: to 324 people |
| 21:20.41 | tzanger | damn google's got some nice satellite coverage of your house |
| 21:20.44 | hardwire | if you guys make it to anchorage to rape me.. that would rule. |
| 21:20.50 | tzanger | my area is like 4 zooms "higher" |
| 21:20.54 | hardwire | tzanger: its a newer area than most |
| 21:21.12 | hardwire | http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=61.172239,-149.935184&spn=0.006663,0.021694&z=1&t=k&hl=en |
| 21:21.16 | hardwire | there is where we walk the dog.. |
| 21:21.19 | hardwire | right in the middle |
| 21:21.21 | Qwell | Cambridge, Mass has some damn nice google sat images |
| 21:21.34 | hardwire | its an off leash dog park.. with a family of 5 moose |
| 21:21.35 | hardwire | :( |
| 21:21.40 | tzanger | hahaha you can see the lines clearly on the runway |
| 21:22.02 | syle | off leash, release the cats! |
| 21:22.06 | AlexCTI | Anyone know how can i get best quality on Music on HOLD? |
| 21:22.18 | Qwell | tzanger: in Cambridge, you can tell the make/model of cars |
| 21:22.22 | tzanger | wow |
| 21:22.29 | syle | alex, to vague |
| 21:22.29 | ender | cool |
| 21:22.32 | Qwell | (if you know anything about cars) |
| 21:22.38 | hardwire | http://maps.google.com/maps?spn=0.025321,0.082436&t=k&saddr=6524+Linden+Dr,+Anchorage+AK&daddr=4300+B.+Street+Anchorage+AK&hl=en |
| 21:22.42 | hardwire | there is my trip to work ni the morning |
| 21:22.47 | ender | in my area, you can see dots and such that _look_ like cars. |
| 21:22.51 | hardwire | so now you can track me every morning at 9:00 am |
| 21:22.53 | hardwire | AKST |
| 21:23.11 | AlexCTI | to vague? |
| 21:23.13 | ender | hardwire: except the images aren't live. |
| 21:23.22 | hardwire | ender: you use your imagination |
| 21:23.25 | ender | heh |
| 21:23.33 | hardwire | http://maps.google.com/maps?spn=0.202564,0.659489&t=k&saddr=6524+Linden+Dr,+Anchorage+AK&daddr=4300+B.+Street+Anchorage+AK&hl=en |
| 21:23.43 | hardwire | anchorage is pretty big for a lot of citys |
| 21:23.50 | hardwire | but its not like.. gigantic |
| 21:23.53 | syle | yes, mp3, wav'? what player? mpg123 madplay? etc etc , like i said can you be anymore vague lol, brb |
| 21:23.54 | hardwire | like a major metro |
| 21:24.11 | hardwire | AlexCTI: you wanna know how? |
| 21:24.14 | hardwire | YOU WANNA KNOW HOW! |
| 21:24.25 | AlexCTI | ok, I my try to use mpg123 with mp3 |
| 21:24.32 | AlexCTI | but the quality is so poor |
| 21:24.33 | hardwire | AlexCTI: use raw player |
| 21:24.37 | hardwire | use sox to convert the mp3's |
| 21:24.38 | hardwire | but |
| 21:24.45 | hardwire | use it with resample -qi |
| 21:24.50 | hardwire | to 8000hz |
| 21:24.56 | hardwire | it does an amazing job |
| 21:25.06 | hardwire | mpg123 so forth won't resample it |
| 21:25.11 | hardwire | quadratically |
| 21:25.13 | hardwire | poopy |
| 21:25.14 | hardwire | snoopy |
| 21:25.24 | morale | im looking at the Digium TDM400P - is there anything cheaper i can plug an analog phone into? |
| 21:25.50 | ender | morale: single port fxo card? |
| 21:25.59 | hardwire | sorry |
| 21:26.00 | tzanger | ender: can't plug a phone into that |
| 21:26.01 | hardwire | resample -ql |
| 21:26.36 | ender | er fxs |
| 21:27.25 | blitzrage | tzanger: back to work! |
| 21:27.33 | tzanger | I am at work |
| 21:28.01 | blitzrage | tzanger: since when do you get paid to be in #asterisk? :) |
| 21:28.04 | AlexCTI | i'll do that.. |
| 21:28.10 | tzanger | since I started usiung it :-) |
| 21:28.18 | ender | blitzrage: I'm on the clock.... |
| 21:28.20 | tzanger | although I don't get to go to cool places like cali and alaska |
| 21:28.30 | blitzrage | tzanger: fair enough... :) |
| 21:28.34 | syle | i use madplay, i liek controlling the volume |
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| 21:28.43 | blitzrage | welp, I'm back off to programming on this Asterisk GUI... |
| 21:28.44 | cio | How's CVS feeling today? |
| 21:28.54 | blitzrage | created two new menu's today! Gotta make one at least functional :) |
| 21:28.56 | syle | have fun |
| 21:29.00 | syle | i spent 2 hours with php today |
| 21:29.02 | blitzrage | syle: don't worry, I won't |
| 21:29.02 | hardwire | AlexCTI: rawplayer uses like no resources compared to mpg123/madplay |
| 21:29.03 | tzanger | :-) |
| 21:29.05 | tzanger | you poor bugger |
| 21:29.11 | hardwire | however you should look at using native moh too |
| 21:29.16 | blitzrage | tzanger: I don't know when I become a developer... |
| 21:29.20 | hardwire | it doesn't stream music.. it starts a new file up for each MoH |
| 21:29.24 | hardwire | but its nice for variety |
| 21:29.42 | blitzrage | syle: only 2 hours? I've been at it since 10am... |
| 21:29.46 | wunderkin | cio: well it hasnt changed since i downloaded it, and its working well for me |
| 21:29.47 | cio | I've never had any problems with mpg123 myself... |
| 21:29.52 | syle | well me noon |
| 21:30.01 | hardwire | AlexCTI: I just converted Stevie Wonder - Superstition to wav 8000hz |
| 21:30.06 | AlexCTI | Do I need to have my mp3 files in any format before do the process? |
| 21:30.08 | syle | i had some issues with PHP_AUTH_USER |
| 21:30.08 | hardwire | and it sounds like the most amazing elevator music ever |
| 21:30.10 | syle | can;t unset it |
| 21:30.11 | cio | wunderkin: yea - it's a monday so I figured I'd check and see if she had a bad weekend and was being a little bitchy. |
| 21:30.18 | hardwire | resampling it and all :) |
| 21:30.29 | cio | sox rox |
| 21:30.29 | syle | have to hack a header statement to say unauthenticated |
| 21:30.30 | hardwire | sox does rox |
| 21:30.33 | syle | fucked me up for a long time |
| 21:30.45 | hardwire | so.. lets talk identity theft |
| 21:30.45 | ender | cio: 'sox' has a very bad meaning here. |
| 21:30.49 | hardwire | has it happened to you |
| 21:30.58 | hardwire | ... |
| 21:30.59 | Qwell | sox rox my sox |
| 21:31.03 | hardwire | I feel like Ricki Lake today |
| 21:31.04 | ender | cio: short for sorbains oxly (sp?) the new legal crap public companies have to adhere to. |
| 21:31.18 | syle | hardwire you should be a politician or lawyer lol |
| 21:31.23 | cio | Yea, I know what sox is. I'm a real cio. I mean sox the linux util. |
| 21:31.25 | rayvd | or a milkmaid! |
| 21:31.27 | hardwire | syle: nooo |
| 21:31.37 | hardwire | syle: but is this beacuse I want to bomb toronto? |
| 21:31.51 | syle | no just the way you talk in general |
| 21:32.03 | blitzrage | hardwire: bomb Toronto? Why for/! |
| 21:32.05 | blitzrage | ?!* |
| 21:32.06 | syle | you;d prob be very good at it |
| 21:32.07 | hardwire | I talk to a lot of them.. they sound nothing like me :) |
| 21:32.14 | hardwire | blitzrage: bad street design and too many nice people |
| 21:32.19 | hardwire | something wrong there. |
| 21:32.29 | syle | i couldn;t stand to go to school and loose money not working but its for some people |
| 21:32.30 | blitzrage | hardwire: lol... well, I can vouch for the bad street design :) |
| 21:32.43 | hardwire | blitzrage: it caused a lot of stress |
| 21:32.49 | hardwire | raining at midnight.. looking for a hotel |
| 21:33.04 | hardwire | 15 one-way streets later I am at a hotel that was acrossed the street |
| 21:33.09 | hardwire | kinda stuff |
| 21:33.58 | hardwire | AlexCTI: oh yeh.. I just felt the stevie wonder groove at 8000hz |
| 21:34.01 | hardwire | that should work fine for you |
| 21:34.32 | hardwire | I have done jack shit today |
| 21:34.39 | hardwire | now.. syle.. I feel like a politician. |
| 21:34.47 | syle | can you realtime musiconhold for different users? |
| 21:35.00 | hardwire | syle: in the dialplan |
| 21:35.13 | hardwire | you can set the MusicOnHold variable before stuff happens |
| 21:35.18 | AlexCTI | where is it? how can i get it |
| 21:35.20 | hardwire | or set it in sip.conf |
| 21:35.23 | syle | yes but the dialplan only consists of calling your class from musiconhold.conf |
| 21:35.29 | hardwire | AlexCTI: it was from my personal stash |
| 21:35.39 | hardwire | what music are you going to use btw.. be aware of music lawyers. |
| 21:35.41 | syle | i mean realtiming the classes |
| 21:35.50 | hardwire | syle: realtime and me don't mix |
| 21:36.25 | syle | well i only realtime stuff i let people change from their browser |
| 21:36.58 | AlexCTI | something good, and swiff |
| 21:37.08 | syle | i;m goint to call metallica and put them on hold with their music |
| 21:37.12 | syle | hahahah |
| 21:37.18 | hardwire | AlexCTI: Swiff you say? |
| 21:37.23 | AlexCTI | it doesn't matter just with a good sound |
| 21:37.29 | hardwire | syle: that sounds fun |
| 21:37.46 | hardwire | "aw crap.. let me put you on hold.." just sounds like a fun thing to say to Metallica in the first place |
| 21:37.52 | syle | if you don;t recall they were the first people to sue napster |
| 21:37.56 | hardwire | I do |
| 21:38.07 | AlexCTI | i mean something with a good quality |
| 21:38.22 | hardwire | AlexCTI: Swinging on a Star usually does it for me :) |
| 21:38.28 | hardwire | but its all Copyrighted |
| 21:38.32 | syle | they;d probably be stoned probably wait an hour |
| 21:38.33 | syle | :) |
| 21:38.40 | hardwire | maybe you should use timidity and download some royalty free Midi and render it to 8000hz |
| 21:39.03 | syle | just use sox to make it 8000hz |
| 21:39.14 | hardwire | syle: sox no grok midi |
| 21:39.18 | hardwire | afaik |
| 21:39.51 | hardwire | AlexCTI: http://www.ascap.com/weblicense/webintro.html |
| 21:39.55 | syle | i got my first webhosting client today yeah! |
| 21:39.58 | syle | lol |
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| 21:40.03 | AlexCTI | lol |
| 21:40.11 | AlexCTI | thanks |
| 21:40.12 | Darwin35 | who here is good with cisco186 units |
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| 21:40.37 | syle | i have a 10 thousand dollar machine doing nothing, so using it for webhosting |
| 21:40.42 | hardwire | http://www.rcarlosnakai.com/ |
| 21:40.45 | hardwire | we use his music |
| 21:40.49 | hardwire | but he doesn't know |
| 21:40.58 | hardwire | so one day I will find out if he cares |
| 21:41.28 | syle | i;m trying to come up with a marketing model |
| 21:41.45 | syle | right now i;m saying free webdesign for your 30 bucks a month hosting |
| 21:41.56 | syle | all coding done free |
| 21:42.21 | syle | this is side project from my VOIP stuff obviously |
| 21:42.28 | hardwire | obvio9usly |
| 21:42.31 | hardwire | syle: I dunno |
| 21:42.40 | hardwire | I hate webhosting |
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| 21:42.54 | ender | webhosting is near 0 margin business |
| 21:42.57 | hardwire | so many other companies do it so much better than I would be able to |
| 21:43.07 | syle | well i;m friends with a local CLEC here so i can get some nice connections for dedicated |
| 21:43.07 | hardwire | like vDeck users |
| 21:43.09 | hardwire | and so forth |
| 21:43.17 | hardwire | just because its a quick and dirty process |
| 21:43.17 | ender | you get rich on quantity, like 40000 customers. |
| 21:43.29 | hardwire | ender: on one $1000 machine? |
| 21:43.29 | nestAr | i want my wifi phone |
| 21:43.33 | nestAr | damn you fedex |
| 21:43.35 | hardwire | nestAr: I want yours too |
| 21:43.52 | syle | yeah render, problem is to get that many a mass marketing tool has to come into play |
| 21:43.54 | ender | hardwire: no, usually a cluster of them. |
| 21:43.56 | nestAr | i bought a UTStarCom, i bet it's total junk |
| 21:44.03 | nestAr | too cheap to work worth a damn |
| 21:44.05 | hardwire | ender: I know how it all works out |
| 21:44.16 | hardwire | its just luike you said.. no margin |
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| 21:44.19 | ender | yep |
| 21:44.22 | hardwire | you spend way to much on end support |
| 21:44.24 | nestAr | no money in webhosting |
| 21:44.30 | hardwire | but Iw ant this |
| 21:44.31 | hardwire | but I want that |
| 21:44.34 | hardwire | boo fucking hoo |
| 21:44.36 | ender | I only do it because my wife and my mother both do webdesigh, so as their 'website' package they toss in the hosting w/ me. |
| 21:44.49 | hardwire | ender: then that would be fine |
| 21:44.50 | ender | $10/m hosting for just straight hosting, no email or whatnot. |
| 21:44.55 | hardwire | just don't plan on banking in on it |
| 21:45.08 | ender | they as the designer take care of the hosting stuff, the customer just knows what url to look at. |
| 21:45.35 | hardwire | I think thats what syle wants |
| 21:45.47 | hardwire | we have a few sites |
| 21:45.52 | hardwire | that need major backend database support |
| 21:45.55 | hardwire | that we charge nothing for |
| 21:45.57 | ender | yeah, he jus thas to bury the cost of the hosting, so that the customer doesn't have a price to compare to other hosting options. |
| 21:45.59 | hardwire | because we suck |
| 21:46.04 | hardwire | not my decision |
| 21:46.04 | syle | i am kind of same situation, i got this brother in law i;m paying to do php because there are no jobs around here, so i stick him on designing sites |
| 21:46.47 | hardwire | syle: its probably cheaper to make very good PHP code that works on most standard PHP setups |
| 21:46.56 | hardwire | and host it somewhere with good reliability |
| 21:47.01 | hardwire | and bandwidth you don't have to worry about staying up |
| 21:47.10 | hardwire | or classifying |
| 21:47.13 | hardwire | so on and so forth. |
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| 21:47.43 | hardwire | it would be nice to have a business that does that here in Anchorage |
| 21:47.54 | hardwire | concidering our pipe to you fuckheads in the rest of the world sucks the big pootie |
| 21:47.56 | syle | well as long as i;m not doing that actual coding on the sites i don;t mind webhosting |
| 21:48.03 | hardwire | but oh well |
| 21:48.15 | syle | you know how it is |
| 21:48.17 | syle | clients call in |
| 21:48.20 | hardwire | syle: just get a good package for maintaining it and billing correctly |
| 21:48.21 | syle | want this and this changed |
| 21:48.23 | hardwire | and you will make money |
| 21:48.24 | syle | rather just toss that off |
| 21:48.53 | hardwire | I should atleast do something today |
| 21:48.57 | hardwire | maybe learn Bandwidth Arbitrator |
| 21:49.00 | syle | thing is how do you compete on the internet |
| 21:49.06 | syle | with peopel offering 5 dollar hosting |
| 21:49.13 | ender | syle: exactly |
| 21:49.15 | ender | syle: you can't really |
| 21:49.18 | syle | so you can;t |
| 21:49.25 | syle | so its hard to get alot of customers quickly |
| 21:49.36 | pegger | word of mouth, just ofer a great service and peole will hear about it and sign up |
| 21:49.41 | ender | syle: you have to be able to 'sell' better tools and quality. It is very hard to 'sell' that type of stuff to users who don't understand that stuff. |
| 21:50.01 | pegger | syle you are never going to get customers quickly, what you want is customers who say with you |
| 21:50.03 | syle | and these people with 5 dollar hosting probably have some 600 dollar machine they are on, not a 10 thousand dollar machine with reliablity |
| 21:50.18 | syle | stay |
| 21:50.21 | syle | yeah |
| 21:50.27 | hardwire | syle: do what another company I worked for did |
| 21:50.28 | syle | so i see this is going to be a slow process |
| 21:50.32 | hardwire | they went out of business but it worked |
| 21:50.35 | hardwire | start up a media design company |
| 21:50.41 | hardwire | and just take care of clients on a package level |
| 21:50.45 | syle | and marketing woud be a telemarketer calling local businesses |
| 21:50.51 | hardwire | and charge them more for hosting elsewhere :) |
| 21:51.01 | hardwire | do package based deductions |
| 21:51.16 | hardwire | each package is - 12% on the cost of the project |
| 21:51.30 | hardwire | something like that |
| 21:51.34 | syle | how about owning their website |
| 21:51.43 | hardwire | thats called shares in the company :) |
| 21:51.45 | syle | they can;t get at source |
| 21:51.49 | syle | if they want to switch |
| 21:51.56 | hardwire | hmm |
| 21:52.00 | hardwire | a service agreement |
| 21:52.03 | syle | yeah |
| 21:52.05 | hardwire | but who in their right mind |
| 21:52.07 | hardwire | :) |
| 21:52.11 | syle | hidden 3 pages deep in some lawyer contract |
| 21:52.21 | *** join/#asterisk JunK-Y (n=junky@69.156.123.108) |
| 21:52.30 | hardwire | syle: I don't know many people that got rich off of hiding shit in contracts |
| 21:52.34 | hardwire | other than cell phone companies :) |
| 21:52.51 | syle | thing is thats not what i want |
| 21:52.57 | syle | i want to be able to compete on the internet |
| 21:52.59 | hardwire | I really need to work on my vocabulary. |
| 21:53.01 | syle | somehow |
| 21:53.05 | hardwire | shit fuck poop |
| 21:53.13 | hardwire | those aren't words I should be using regularly. |
| 21:53.46 | syle | people don;lt give a shit about quality, they care about how much it costs them it seems |
| 21:54.22 | syle | can see that over and over, VOIP being a good example |
| 21:54.29 | hardwire | anybody here use bandwidth arbitrator? |
| 21:54.34 | hardwire | seems to be 2.4.x only |
| 21:54.35 | tzanger | nope |
| 21:54.39 | hardwire | oop |
| 21:54.40 | hardwire | nm |
| 21:54.54 | tzanger | I use rc.tc (something I wrote based on wondershaper) and it works great |
| 21:54.54 | hardwire | weird |
| 21:55.01 | hardwire | it wants to do it at a bridge level |
| 21:55.06 | hardwire | this could go very wrong |
| 21:55.07 | tzanger | yeah I dislike bridges |
| 21:55.19 | hardwire | I may just buy the netqeualizer |
| 21:55.24 | hardwire | so I don't have to deal |
| 21:55.24 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:55.30 | hardwire | cause I have 3 uplinks |
| 21:55.37 | hardwire | I don't want to build two 6 nic cards |
| 21:55.46 | hardwire | cards/servers |
| 21:57.22 | *** join/#asterisk mcn (n=mcn@ext-gw.newtoncomputing.co.uk) |
| 21:57.27 | hardwire | what do you guys use for multi-tenant uplinks? |
| 21:57.35 | hardwire | and voip classification |
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| 21:58.43 | hardwire | I have more SATA cables that you can shake a stick at |
| 21:58.46 | hardwire | one comes with drives |
| 21:58.49 | hardwire | two come with mainboard |
| 21:59.01 | hardwire | over and over.. they are just building up |
| 21:59.43 | hardwire | hopefulyl sata cables won't become fashion statements any time soon |
| 21:59.52 | hardwire | like IDE cables became |
| 22:01.17 | Supaplex | enough to hang yourself with? |
| 22:01.37 | Abbas | can asterisk do auto negotiation for codecs? |
| 22:01.50 | ender | too bad sata cables of today are deprecated. |
| 22:01.54 | jarrod | abbas: it will find one compatible |
| 22:01.54 | ender | sata2 cables will be different. |
| 22:02.03 | hardwire | really? |
| 22:02.06 | hardwire | wow.. |
| 22:02.09 | hardwire | that was some real engineering |
| 22:02.29 | ender | they will most likely be back/forward compatible though |
| 22:02.52 | ender | sata2 will be steel at the ends for a much more solid connection, and the drive is supposed to be more solid there too to prevent snapping. |
| 22:03.39 | hardwire | I was just wondering about that |
| 22:03.43 | hardwire | as I plugged in a drive |
| 22:03.48 | hardwire | this just seems flimsy |
| 22:04.08 | ender | try 16 drives in a 3u, or 48 drives in a 5u |
| 22:04.23 | hardwire | I found an SATA mobile drive tray |
| 22:04.28 | rayvd | bury it! |
| 22:04.29 | hardwire | that terminates to ieee1394 |
| 22:04.30 | hardwire | kinda nice |
| 22:04.31 | rayvd | =-o |
| 22:04.31 | ender | backplanes for SATA is iffy. way too easy to snap a backplane or a drive back. |
| 22:04.51 | hardwire | heh |
| 22:04.52 | ender | anywho, I'm out for rea. |
| 22:04.55 | hardwire | l |
| 22:05.21 | hardwire | wow |
| 22:05.25 | hardwire | this tray rules |
| 22:05.31 | hardwire | its got anti shock grommits |
| 22:09.41 | *** part/#asterisk makhtar (n=ageller@mail.bulletinnews.com) |
| 22:09.54 | SplasPood | Hey all... Is there any way to detect when an answering machine got the outbound call rather than a human? |
| 22:10.57 | hardwire | wow |
| 22:11.03 | hardwire | this mobile drive tray is super robust |
| 22:11.05 | hardwire | I like it |
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| 22:11.21 | rayvd | how did you confirm it was super robust? |
| 22:11.26 | FuriousGeorge | hey all |
| 22:11.26 | rayvd | should i feel sorry for the mobile drive tray? :/ |
| 22:11.47 | FuriousGeorge | i dont have t or T in my dials in the dialplan, yet i can transfer calls. whats the difference? |
| 22:11.55 | FuriousGeorge | on zap and sip clients |
| 22:11.56 | hardwire | http://www.startech.com/ststore/itemdetail.cfm?ProductID=DRW115SATBK&mt=p |
| 22:12.20 | hardwire | rayvd: its weighs more than the computer case |
| 22:12.25 | hardwire | heh |
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| 22:12.41 | rayvd | excellent |
| 22:12.45 | rayvd | so it coudl also be used as a weapon |
| 22:13.02 | hardwire | if I had the key |
| 22:13.12 | hardwire | I could pull out the caddy and use it to bludgeon |
| 22:14.35 | FuriousGeorge | for instance, on zap channels hook transfer works fine, yet in none of my contexts do i use dial with the T flag (or t) |
| 22:15.12 | file[laptop] | FuriousGeorge: you use T/t if you want to do it using app_dial's transfer abilities, ie: for dumb devices that won't transfer right or don't have the ability |
| 22:15.57 | FuriousGeorge | file[laptop]: speaking of dumb devices, would that possible help the transfer sound quality issues i have when using my xten sip clients |
| 22:16.11 | FuriousGeorge | which implement a transfer button |
| 22:16.20 | file[laptop] | ...trial/error... |
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| 22:16.56 | FuriousGeorge | file[laptop]: since ur here, remember i asked you a while back about messaging and presence across multiple asterisk networks |
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| 22:17.39 | file[laptop] | sure. |
| 22:17.57 | FuriousGeorge | was talking to shido and he thinks it may be possible with a dialplan hack i thought up |
| 22:18.08 | file[laptop] | ... |
| 22:19.04 | FuriousGeorge | if i can use one of the asterisk boxes as a central presence server while first logging the clients into their respective sip servers, i can work it so that if the user clicks on the contact to call through the presence box it will hand the call off to the original box (or a third box) to do the right thing with it |
| 22:19.33 | file[laptop] | that's very generic |
| 22:19.44 | file[laptop] | and is not what I have in mind when I think presence |
| 22:20.03 | FuriousGeorge | its a hack, the client must support multiple sip servers |
| 22:20.19 | hardwire | FuriousGeorge: sounds like your setup is wonky |
| 22:20.30 | hardwire | if they need multiple sip servers.. you should have them mimic eachother |
| 22:20.30 | FuriousGeorge | hardwire: i havent actually done it yet |
| 22:20.32 | hardwire | for redundancy |
| 22:20.42 | hardwire | you shouldn't die down which makes the call |
| 22:20.50 | hardwire | die/tie |
| 22:21.00 | FuriousGeorge | hardwire: think about the problem. asterisk uses hints which it maps to peers for presence. how can i map presence for a given client thats not logged into my box |
| 22:21.07 | hardwire | oh |
| 22:21.08 | hardwire | hints |
| 22:21.12 | hardwire | notify/subscribe |
| 22:21.27 | FuriousGeorge | right, but the hint wont work if the client belongs to a differet server |
| 22:21.32 | hardwire | as its still very much a work in progress I would have to make a funny noise about that |
| 22:21.32 | hardwire | but |
| 22:21.35 | hardwire | once it works well |
| 22:21.39 | file[laptop] | that's definitely a hack... |
| 22:21.45 | hardwire | you could somehow use IAX inbetween servers |
| 22:21.52 | hardwire | so hint the sip on one machine |
| 22:22.07 | hardwire | then on a switched IAX connection it helps out by hinting the extension in its special way |
| 22:22.10 | hardwire | in the future |
| 22:22.14 | hardwire | very far in the future |
| 22:22.18 | hardwire | nowhere near today |
| 22:22.39 | hardwire | FuriousGeorge: also.. global notifies you could write a handler for that |
| 22:22.43 | hardwire | and then tada you are done |
| 22:22.53 | hardwire | hack up chan_sip.c and stuff |
| 22:23.11 | FuriousGeorge | hardwire: thats the idea. one of the boxes is a central presence server, but if the client double clicks on it to make the call, it also routes it to the right box. the tricky part is handing off the call (not xferring) so that the bandwidth of the presence box isnt being used to call an extension on the same server as you |
| 22:23.19 | FuriousGeorge | file[laptop]: its a hack, but functionally it works the same |
| 22:23.22 | FuriousGeorge | no? |
| 22:23.25 | hardwire | so do it in a glboal way inbetween all the servers |
| 22:23.31 | hardwire | don't just do it from one to the other :) |
| 22:23.52 | file[laptop] | I have a suspicion that just like... yeah, good luck |
| 22:24.21 | FuriousGeorge | file[laptop]: you dont sound enthusiastic about the method. can you suggest a better way? |
| 22:24.26 | hardwire | FuriousGeorge: one day.. IAX2 dialplan switching will work with remote hinting I bet |
| 22:24.34 | hardwire | and boy what a waste of bandwidth it will be |
| 22:24.39 | hardwire | but oh well |
| 22:24.49 | hardwire | I have limited bandwidth so I am bitchy about that |
| 22:24.56 | hardwire | I want the company to use IRC |
| 22:24.59 | hardwire | and cut out their tounges. |
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| 22:25.14 | Sk3tCh | hi |
| 22:25.16 | hardwire | stand back kids.. bad role model alert. |
| 22:25.21 | file[laptop] | hardwire: you're always so positive |
| 22:25.33 | hardwire | its why darth_mall likes me |
| 22:25.50 | file[laptop] | pfft |
| 22:26.31 | hardwire | file: you work from home right? |
| 22:26.35 | ender | and I'm back at work. |
| 22:26.39 | file[laptop] | hardwire: yes |
| 22:26.40 | hardwire | I was a happy guy when I did that. |
| 22:26.41 | hardwire | now |
| 22:26.42 | hardwire | not happy |
| 22:27.04 | hardwire | do I look like a fucking moose to you? |
| 22:27.13 | hardwire | doh.. dumb.. |
| 22:27.27 | FuriousGeorge | hardwire catches a buzz |
| 22:27.30 | ender | hey file[laptop]... care to help me debug a bridging problem w/ a Zap T1 line? (channalized) |
| 22:27.40 | file[laptop] | not really, I have actual work to do |
| 22:27.54 | ender | file[laptop]: damn, ok, thanks. |
| 22:27.57 | hardwire | he will ship you one more if you help him |
| 22:28.58 | hardwire | anybody seen Serinity yet? |
| 22:29.07 | ender | if it weren't so expensive to ship I would. I only have 3 that I'm not using right now... |
| 22:29.21 | file | what are you not using? |
| 22:29.31 | fmano | hi! does anyone here worked with BELCOM-RDIS legacy pbx ? |
| 22:30.29 | ender | file: Duron 950 in a system the size of a VCR, Athlon 1.3ghz tower, P4 2.4ghz mini tower |
| 22:30.40 | ender | file: probably enough parts to make a 3rd not-in-use system. |
| 22:30.43 | hardwire | fmano: how would you rate that pbx on a fun to no-fun level? |
| 22:30.57 | opus__ | hello |
| 22:31.03 | opus__ | does anyone here use register=yes in sip.conf? |
| 22:31.04 | fmano | a very hard problem ;) |
| 22:31.19 | file | ender: ah |
| 22:31.25 | hardwire | opus__: that seems wrong |
| 22:31.50 | opus__ | hardwire : its supposively works somewhere |
| 22:31.56 | fmano | hardwire: proprietary system....phones....configs.... |
| 22:32.01 | hardwire | but what would you want it to do opus__ ? |
| 22:32.05 | hardwire | fmano: eww |
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| 22:32.30 | ender | file: need something beefier? |
| 22:32.32 | opus__ | hardwire - separate registry entries by context. in realtime |
| 22:32.42 | fmano | it doesn't pass DTMF.... neither generate |
| 22:32.46 | hardwire | opus__: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-August/058930.html |
| 22:32.49 | hardwire | right? |
| 22:33.02 | ender | damnit! |
| 22:33.11 | ender | why oh why don't you receive frame!? |
| 22:33.22 | hardwire | its naighty |
| 22:33.22 | file | ender: why are you offering me hardware? LOL |
| 22:33.31 | FuriousGeorge | would putting the "t" in the dialplan cause * to supercede the sip client which also implements x-fer (via a button)? |
| 22:33.43 | hardwire | I put the 'b' in extensions.conf |
| 22:34.24 | ender | file: hehe, well... They aren't doing me any good just taking up room in my office. If shipping was covered I wouldn't mind donating to Asterisk. |
| 22:34.29 | opus__ | hardwire, umm, no lemme find it. it was a -dev post recently |
| 22:34.39 | opus__ | maybe its a asterisk business edition feature.. |
| 22:34.48 | SplasPood | business edition? |
| 22:34.48 | file | ender: the mini tower is tempting |
| 22:35.21 | ender | file: yeah, that was donated to me for the Fedora Legacy project, but I outgrew it and use much beefier hardware for that. Now it just sits there, after a brief period os my MythTV box. |
| 22:35.38 | file | ender: my second workstation is a 1.7GHz P4 right now |
| 22:35.39 | bkw_ | Fedora Legacy project? |
| 22:35.40 | ender | then I got an Athlon64 shuttle and my previous Athlon64 system became my MythTV box. |
| 22:35.45 | bkw_ | it ain't that old now |
| 22:35.57 | ender | bkw_: yeah, security releases for EOL'd Fedora and Red Hat Linux releases. |
| 22:36.04 | opus__ | bkw, its for Red Hat enterprise 2.1 |
| 22:36.07 | opus__ | i think |
| 22:36.12 | file | bkw_: in regards to mtstation - I've got the two accounts done, the system automatically billed the full amount when I added - do I just credit that back since I (think) She already paid it? |
| 22:36.20 | ender | bkw_: Fedora 1 and 2 are no longer supported by Fedora, 3 is about to be dropped as well. |
| 22:36.25 | ender | opus__: no, it isn't. |
| 22:36.38 | ender | opus__: Fedora Legacy doesn't and will not touch RHEL releases. |
| 22:36.41 | file | god I hate dealing with this account, it gives me a headache |
| 22:36.42 | opus__ | ender thanks |
| 22:37.28 | opus__ | hardwire : http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2005-September/015813.html |
| 22:37.53 | fugitivo | i have sip devices that after asterisk restart they don't register anymore |
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| 22:38.07 | Sk3tCh | how can i forward a call to another partner |
| 22:39.04 | FuriousGeorge | Sk3tCh: flash, dial extn, adsvise, hangup |
| 22:43.23 | file | there - done! |
| 22:45.16 | *** join/#asterisk Romik (n=romik_@1.fix.netvision.net.il) |
| 22:45.26 | file | ender: now you're making me ponder aboot the P4 box |
| 22:45.29 | file | blast! |
| 22:45.34 | ender | LOL |
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| 22:46.44 | ender | when using the new zap cards that have hardware echo cancel, should I still enable echo cancel in zapata.conf ? |
| 22:47.23 | opus__ | ab00t |
| 22:48.01 | Cresl1n | ender: just don't think about |
| 22:48.02 | Cresl1n | :-D |
| 22:51.43 | shido6 | dual core, ender? |
| 22:52.18 | file | oh if you've got something dual core, I'll take it |
| 22:52.19 | ender | shido6: no, Shuttle hasn't put out a dual-core A64 platform yet. |
| 22:52.31 | ender | shido6: and I don't want to replace my $400 video card already. |
| 22:52.33 | shido6 | i was wondering |
| 22:52.33 | file | ender: we should talk more... |
| 22:52.34 | shido6 | heh |
| 22:52.43 | shido6 | the dual core laptop (athlond 64s) arent out yet |
| 22:52.44 | shido6 | :) |
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| 22:53.05 | ender | shido6: you don't need a laptop proc for a shuttle |
| 22:53.12 | ender | shido6: shuttles use full desktop procs |
| 22:53.19 | *** part/#asterisk jmg (n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz) |
| 22:53.19 | ender | file: jkeating@j2solutions.net |
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| 22:53.35 | *** part/#asterisk jmg (n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz) |
| 22:53.43 | file | because, well, I'm a geek and always looking for another system :P |
| 22:54.02 | ender | hehe |
| 22:54.17 | ender | well, if you _need_ it and it will go to a good use... |
| 22:58.02 | wunderkin | he cant use the excuse that he's american |
| 22:58.20 | rnovotny22 | ender: Do you do much work with FC4? |
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| 22:58.42 | ender | rnovotny22: I'm mostly a user of FC at this point. |
| 22:58.46 | Cresl1n | :-) |
| 22:58.47 | fmano | fmano is... Portuguese !!! |
| 22:58.59 | file | Cresl1n: awww you're still cute |
| 22:59.07 | Cresl1n | oh no you didn't! |
| 22:59.13 | file | oh yes I did you sexy biatch! |
| 22:59.17 | Cresl1n | what happened to your prom date? |
| 22:59.23 | rnovotny22 | ender: I've been trying to get X11 to run on FC4 and compact 1850. . No go! |
| 22:59.31 | file | Cresl1n: wouldn't you like to know! |
| 22:59.55 | ender | rnovotny22: aahhh, an X config question. Yeah.... I'm not the guy to ask. |
| 23:00.17 | rnovotny22 | ender: Oh well, I guess I'll stick to FC2. |
| 23:01.18 | ender | rnovotny22: so it works on FC2, but not FC4? Was Fc2 still XFree86 or had was it xorg by then? |
| 23:02.05 | rnovotny22 | ender: xorg. But I don't dare run the upgrade for FC2. X server will lock system. |
| 23:02.27 | ender | interesting. |
| 23:02.34 | rnovotny22 | Pain |
| 23:02.36 | ender | there has been lots of work flowing aroun dintel chipsets. |
| 23:03.08 | rnovotny22 | This has an ATI chipset for graphics |
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| 23:05.04 | file | uh oh |
| 23:06.04 | *** join/#asterisk websae (i=websae@207-118-145-120.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 23:06.12 | file | yay meds |
| 23:06.15 | websae | anyone know why my asterisk server might not parse my 'sip.conf' file? |
| 23:06.22 | websae | could use some helpp please! :) |
| 23:06.51 | paulc | so.. rackmount server for PRI in/out.. Dell? HP/Compaq? I'm thinking Dell 1850 vs ProLiant 360/380 something like that.. but bit kinda rusty.. then need to suss out whether I need an x05 or x10 card :-s |
| 23:06.56 | fugitivo | websae: permissions |
| 23:07.01 | paulc | websae: not at all? or just warning? |
| 23:07.55 | websae | it's not showin gup any of the users |
| 23:08.02 | fugitivo | websae: permissions |
| 23:08.21 | websae | -rwxrwxrwx 1 asterisk asterisk 1.2K Oct 3 18:59 sip.conf |
| 23:08.48 | fmano | a good "everyone" permission |
| 23:08.50 | websae | it says it's being parsed but nothing is being added |
| 23:09.05 | websae | the sip users are not showing up form sip.conf |
| 23:09.06 | websae | *from |
| 23:09.24 | websae | any help would greatly be appreciated! :) |
| 23:11.53 | FuriousGeorge | exten => s,1,dial(${ARG2}/${ARG1},T) <--whats the syntax that takes that t as "transfer" not "timeout" |
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| 23:12.34 | FuriousGeorge | websae: are ur clients saying anything? is your verbose cli saying anything? |
| 23:13.00 | wunderkin | FuriousGeorge: move it over to the right one space |
| 23:13.21 | wunderkin | its in show application dial |
| 23:13.27 | FuriousGeorge | wunderkin: exten => s,1,dial(${ARG2}/${ARG1}, T) <-- that's it? |
| 23:13.37 | wunderkin | you need another , |
| 23:13.38 | FuriousGeorge | wunderkin: right, forgot about that one |
| 23:13.53 | wunderkin | ,,T |
| 23:14.09 | wunderkin | , and | are spacers |
| 23:14.09 | FuriousGeorge | wunderkin: exten => s,1,dial(${ARG2}/${ARG1},,T) <-- like that (no space b4 't')? |
| 23:14.13 | wunderkin | yes |
| 23:14.28 | FuriousGeorge | right, but if i use | that wont be the same as comma? |
| 23:14.38 | wunderkin | yeah |
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| 23:18.10 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk 1.2.0 Beta1 - http://www.asterisk.org || Astricon 2005 - Anaheim, CA - Oct 12-14 - http://www.astricon.net/2005 - Sign Up Now! |
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| 23:19.44 | Sk3tCh | how can i make this: |
| 23:19.50 | Sk3tCh | i call number 1000 |
| 23:19.59 | Sk3tCh | and ther i can choice from menu |
| 23:20.07 | Sk3tCh | with numbers |
| 23:20.41 | paulc | ender: dunno.. trying to research that online.. there's got to be other people here using Dell 1850s or Compaq DL380s etc? |
| 23:21.06 | ender | paulc: I don't like buying dell. I usually buy from the independant I used to work for, Pogo Linux |
| 23:21.23 | paulc | I've read good things about them in Linux Journal.. |
| 23:21.59 | paulc | ultimatley I just need a solid server that'll work well with Digium hardware (although people keep whispering Sangoma in my ear.. but I don't want to start a flame war or anything..) |
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| 23:22.52 | ender | paulc: how much CPU do you need? |
| 23:22.56 | paulc | are they the new jumbo ones? |
| 23:23.06 | file | no :( |
| 23:23.22 | paulc | ender: nothing too flash.. gonna be taking a PRI in then feeding out to a channel bank with 24 FXS ports.. most calls are in'n'out |
| 23:23.41 | ender | paulc: Pogo Linux WW1180 is a really fracking nice server. Has a PCI slot, dual gigE intel controllers. P4 Prescott platform. |
| 23:23.47 | blitzrage | what is the max legal length for a FQDN? |
| 23:23.52 | ender | paulc: 1u, slide rails. Starts around $999 |
| 23:23.57 | ender | 3 year warranty |
| 23:24.17 | paulc | ender: sounds like a good deal.. I'll check 'em out.. (the question then becomes: which T1 card to use...) |
| 23:24.31 | ender | paulc: ti's a 5v slot in the 1180. |
| 23:24.35 | ender | paulc: PCI-X. |
| 23:25.40 | paulc | nice one - cheers.. I'll check 'em out and point the customer in their direction.. I'm trying to stay out of the hardware part of the project and just concentrate on setup + implementation |
| 23:25.46 | MrMAGO | good night everyone... has any of you ever encountered a glibc double free or corruption error that crashes *? any idea? |
| 23:26.22 | ender | paulc: good call |
| 23:28.52 | fmano | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.54 | fmano | ??? |
| 23:29.30 | SarahEmm | just ask the question fmano, don't ask to ask |
| 23:29.37 | SarahEmm | and certainly don't frame the asking to ask with asterisks |
| 23:29.41 | SarahEmm | even if it does fit the channel name |
| 23:29.51 | fmano | ok... sorry |
| 23:30.03 | *** join/#asterisk Juxt (n=denis@sfl-dsl-64-135-113-4-cust.host.net) |
| 23:30.07 | Juxt | good evening |
| 23:30.41 | fmano | i've got one legacy ISDN PBX and i'm intercepting the "line" out to pstn with asterisk. |
| 23:30.45 | Juxt | question - how can i control the number of forks of * i have? it seems that i am getting more requests that my box is ready to handle |
| 23:31.28 | fmano | the problem is that with digital interfaces, there is no problem ... witn analog, the asterisk does not handle DTMF... |
| 23:31.33 | fmano | any opinion ? |
| 23:32.04 | FuriousGeorge | it appears that this snazzy eyebeam's client implementation of transfer is really ruining the feature for me. i /think/ the problem is, rather than asterisk connecting part a to party b, the client is trying to hold two conversations and do the connecting itself |
| 23:32.20 | fmano | It gives me - "frame error" |
| 23:34.43 | FuriousGeorge | the only thing ive tried so far is using the T and t in the dialplan... maybe if i use the clients flash button instead of the xfer, or something |
| 23:34.54 | *** join/#asterisk |Vulture| (n=V@211.119.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 23:35.36 | Juxt | so is there anything that can let me tell asterisk that i want 50 forks running from the get-go? |
| 23:36.07 | *** join/#asterisk outtolunc (n=me@ppp-69-237-35-56.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 23:36.19 | |Vulture| | Anyone ever seen this when issuing a make on * CVS http://pastebin.ca/24541 |
| 23:36.31 | *** join/#asterisk Jam1e (i=Jamie@host217-43-184-176.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:37.03 | Jam1e | I'm getting the following when starting asterisk now: WARNING[26321]: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/app_chanspy.so: undefined symbol: ast_config_AST_MONITOR_DIR anyone got any ideas? |
| 23:37.32 | |Vulture| | yea your trying to load app_chanspy and its not loading |
| 23:37.39 | |Vulture| | Jam1e: you running CVS right? |
| 23:37.59 | SarahEmm | there's no errors there, |Vulture| |
| 23:38.09 | SarahEmm | what |
| 23:38.12 | |Vulture| | SarahEmm: it keeps scrolling that |
| 23:38.13 | SarahEmm | err what's the issue? |
| 23:38.14 | |Vulture| | forever |
| 23:38.23 | Jam1e | |Vulture| nah its probably slightly out of date now |
| 23:38.27 | |Vulture| | doesn't continue to the next make command |
| 23:38.33 | SarahEmm | you're sure it's the exact same thing it's scrolling |Vulture|? |
| 23:38.34 | Jam1e | but it was working fine up until I redone my configs |
| 23:38.42 | |Vulture| | SarahEmm: Possitive |
| 23:38.57 | |Vulture| | SarahEmm: and when I issue a "make clean" it does it too |
| 23:39.13 | SarahEmm | i dunno, sowwy =/ |
| 23:39.17 | |Vulture| | :( |
| 23:39.21 | SarahEmm | you've erased your tree and downloaded a fresh one? |
| 23:39.24 | SarahEmm | (if you don't have changes in yours) |
| 23:39.27 | |Vulture| | SarahEmm: I have |
| 23:39.42 | |Vulture| | I think its some compiler or some module not installed |
| 23:39.49 | |Vulture| | this is a fresh CentOS4.1 install |
| 23:40.22 | |Vulture| | when all else fails... reboot :P |
| 23:40.36 | azzie | Jam1e, do you have autoload=yes ? |
| 23:40.52 | Jam1e | ah yeah I am using 1.2.0 Beta1 |
| 23:40.59 | Jam1e | azzie, most likely yes |
| 23:41.05 | azzie | Jam1e, most likely ? |
| 23:41.13 | Jam1e | yeah I do |
| 23:41.14 | SarahEmm | errr |
| 23:41.22 | SarahEmm | centos 4.1... that's not gcc4 is it? |
| 23:41.28 | azzie | Jam1e, you sure you need app_chanspy ? |
| 23:41.37 | |Vulture| | SarahEmm: might be |
| 23:41.51 | SarahEmm | gcc --version |
| 23:41.53 | Jam1e | azzie: haven't got a clue, not sure what its for |
| 23:42.00 | |Vulture| | yea Im waiting for the OS to reload |
| 23:42.03 | SarahEmm | k |
| 23:42.13 | outtolunc | jam1e: add astspooldir => /var/spool/asterisk |
| 23:42.21 | outtolunc | to /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf |
| 23:42.34 | outtolunc | then make sure /var/spool/asterisk/monitor dir exists |
| 23:42.40 | azzie | Jam1e, heh, then just add noload=>app_chanspy.so in your modules.conf .... |
| 23:43.08 | |Vulture| | SarahEmm: gcc (GCC) 3.4.3 20050227 (Red Hat 3.4.3-22.1) |
| 23:43.11 | Jam1e | outtolunc: thats already in asterisk.conf and the dir exists |
| 23:43.16 | outtolunc | also check permissions |
| 23:43.24 | SarahEmm | ahh |
| 23:43.59 | *** join/#asterisk fmano (n=fmano@bl8-40-186.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 23:44.14 | Jam1e | yeah the permissions are fine |
| 23:44.21 | Jam1e | I'll see if it'll run if I add noload |
| 23:44.33 | *** join/#asterisk glm2k (n=GLM@rrcs-24-199-11-41.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 23:44.59 | outtolunc | well yeah |
| 23:45.05 | outtolunc | but then chanspy is gone <G> |
| 23:45.14 | Jam1e | whats it for? |
| 23:45.23 | outtolunc | spying (listening) on a channel |
| 23:45.34 | ender | is there a way to hide a voicemail entry from the company directory? |
| 23:45.42 | *** join/#asterisk keb (i=foobar@tor/session/x-f3c5994bf56f71ef) |
| 23:45.48 | |Vulture| | ender: don't put the name in there |
| 23:45.54 | |Vulture| | just add another , |
| 23:45.57 | ender | oh well, thats simple. |
| 23:46.37 | |Vulture| | ;) |
| 23:46.52 | Jam1e | hmm, a lot of things seem to be failing |
| 23:47.06 | Jam1e | format_ogg_vorbis failed |
| 23:47.06 | outtolunc | sounds like you got other issues <G> |
| 23:47.16 | Jam1e | then app_setrdnis.so |
| 23:47.24 | |Vulture| | Jam1e: did you "rm -rf /usr/lib/asterisk/modules" before you did a make install on * |
| 23:47.36 | Jam1e | I don't recall |
| 23:47.38 | MikeJ[Laptop] | did you rm -rf / ? |
| 23:47.41 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :P |
| 23:47.43 | outtolunc | haha |
| 23:47.44 | Jam1e | I think I'll rebuild it |
| 23:47.50 | Jam1e | MikeJ[Laptop]: yeah of course ;) |
| 23:47.57 | outtolunc | add a * to the end of vultures one <G> |
| 23:48.04 | |Vulture| | MikeJ[Laptop]: someone actaully did that after I told them to do that to fix *@HOome |
| 23:48.08 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I did that the other day by mistake.. hit enter when I was trying to hit / |
| 23:48.09 | MikeJ[Laptop] | sigh |
| 23:48.29 | |Vulture| | MikeJ[Laptop]: owch hope it wasn't on a remote system |
| 23:48.35 | |Vulture| | omg * compiled |
| 23:48.37 | |Vulture| | killed me |
| 23:48.46 | |Vulture| | that was strange |
| 23:49.06 | |Vulture| | I need to stop smoking |
| 23:49.12 | |Vulture| | crack... |
| 23:49.27 | JunK-Y | vulture: sure, start redbull now. |
| 23:49.28 | MikeJ[Laptop] | naw, it was in cygwin, so I just killed my build enironment |
| 23:49.58 | MikeJ[Laptop] | go for it |
| 23:50.42 | |Vulture| | oh no..... I spoke too soon |
| 23:50.52 | |Vulture| | a "make clean" put it into the endless loop |
| 23:51.11 | |Vulture| | how the hell does a make clean crash an * build |
| 23:51.23 | outtolunc | run as wrong user |
| 23:51.32 | *** join/#asterisk tzanger (n=tzanger@mixdown.ca) |
| 23:51.44 | |Vulture| | root? |
| 23:51.52 | outtolunc | you run asterisk as root? |
| 23:51.59 | tzanger | yup |
| 23:52.01 | |Vulture| | I do |
| 23:52.22 | |Vulture| | never had any problem with it |
| 23:52.29 | |Vulture| | been running as root for 2 years |
| 23:52.37 | outtolunc | congrats <G> |
| 23:52.45 | |Vulture| | yea I need it |
| 23:52.56 | tzanger | if asterisk has proper priv dropping it'd be cool but running in chroot is just plian stupid |
| 23:53.21 | |Vulture| | Ill prolly make it a user though since Im making an image |
| 23:53.46 | *** part/#asterisk Beave (n=beave@vistech.org) |
| 23:54.08 | Jam1e | ah |
| 23:54.12 | Jam1e | a recompile fixed it |
| 23:54.20 | ender | you could be really masochastic and use it inside SELinux |
| 23:55.11 | Nugget | Linux is poo. |
| 23:55.18 | *** part/#asterisk keb (i=foobar@tor/session/x-f3c5994bf56f71ef) |
| 23:58.11 | FuriousGeorge | im logged in to a remote * install with a sip client. nat isnt a problem everything works fine plenty of bandwidth. the problem is that when the remote client transfers a call, the bandwidth is still traveling from server to remote client and back. it would be nice if asterisk just "combined the two calls" leaving the remote client out of the loop, or at least not in the middle |
| 23:58.33 | FuriousGeorge | im pretty sure its my clients implementation of xfer at fault as everything works fine when i use a hook xfer on a zap channel |
| 23:58.57 | FuriousGeorge | i got T and t in the dialplan at the appropriate spotsw |
| 23:59.24 | FuriousGeorge | *spots |
