| 00:00.16 | Vlat | it would be the robotic cat |
| 00:00.19 | Vlat | the RoboCat |
| 00:00.22 | Katty | no |
| 00:00.23 | Katty | Astricat |
| 00:00.32 | Vlat | hm |
| 00:00.35 | Katty | they already make robotic cats. |
| 00:00.36 | Vlat | Astrological cat ? |
| 00:00.44 | Vlat | can tell you the FUTURE |
| 00:00.44 | Katty | such as Max, which is used in therapy |
| 00:01.02 | Katty | Vlat: i'm being realistic, actually |
| 00:01.12 | Katty | Vlat: i see no reason why i can't build a robotic cat |
| 00:01.20 | Katty | it's ismply a motor, with a shell, and programming |
| 00:01.35 | Vlat | Katty: grab the festival. "meow" the letters in it |
| 00:01.40 | Katty | and some sensors, and a motion detector |
| 00:01.46 | Vlat | Katty: do the accents affordable for the language |
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| 00:01.53 | Vlat | pair it with asterisk |
| 00:01.56 | Katty | and then like some sort of wireless reciever in it |
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| 00:01.58 | Vlat | use AGI |
| 00:02.01 | Vlat | nothing more |
| 00:02.01 | Katty | a voIP wireless reciever |
| 00:02.06 | Katty | i could build it |
| 00:02.09 | Katty | ...in a couple years |
| 00:02.11 | twisted | hehe |
| 00:02.11 | Katty | and about 5 grand |
| 00:02.19 | hardwire | kaldemar: perhaps the antenna will be in the tail.. and whenever it looks like its about to spray something you should answer it. |
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| 00:02.38 | skrewtape | any opinions on broadvoice? |
| 00:02.41 | BrianR___ | kshumard_home: hmm... |
| 00:03.12 | BrianR___ | kshumard_home: Essentially what I'm aiming for is to do g711u for stuff on the LAN and gsm, 729, or another lossy codec for stuff that goes over a WAN pipe. |
| 00:03.14 | Katty | twisted: you can help me build the kitty. |
| 00:03.34 | spiekey | gotta go to bed! n8n8! |
| 00:03.35 | twisted | k |
| 00:04.08 | Vlat | buy the real kitty, do the wireless things and use the non-directed microphone %) |
| 00:04.14 | kshumard_home | BrianR___, Then define different peers for whether they're local or remote. |
| 00:04.16 | Vlat | it will meow like the real! |
| 00:04.16 | Katty | twisted: where am i going to get a motor that will power a quadroped shell |
| 00:04.47 | BrianR___ | kshumard_home: that ought to do it.. |
| 00:04.55 | BrianR___ | I think I need to start machine generating my sip.conf though. :( |
| 00:06.27 | docelm0 | Any gallery guru's in here? |
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| 00:09.36 | distortion | hmm, anyone recommend an iax phone for windows? sokol-associates.com (which i was told was good) redirects to astricon's website |
| 00:10.48 | X-Rob | firefly is good |
| 00:10.51 | Vlat | hehh |
| 00:10.58 | Vlat | reading through logs |
| 00:11.28 | Vlat | some mfu.er is trying to register himself at my asterisk (dumb, he don't know that's only the media gateway) |
| 00:11.40 | Vlat | to compain or not to complain... |
| 00:14.17 | nobell | does anybody know of documentation for setting up the new IAXy for static ip? is it possible? |
| 00:14.28 | PMantis | nobell, Yes, it is. |
| 00:14.52 | PMantis | You need iaxyprov |
| 00:15.12 | nobell | right on |
| 00:15.29 | nobell | got it at Astricon - ready to play now. |
| 00:15.36 | drumkilla | or gtkiaxyprov! |
| 00:15.55 | PMantis | gtkiaxyprov ? Cool! |
| 00:16.01 | drumkilla | yeah :) |
| 00:16.06 | drumkilla | a few of us wrote it this summer for fun |
| 00:16.08 | Igbothom_III | speaking of IAX devices, which IP Phones support IAX2? |
| 00:16.23 | PMantis | drumkilla, Nice! |
| 00:16.44 | drumkilla | aside from being graphical, the only other added functionality is that it can scan your network for IAXy's |
| 00:16.53 | Igbothom_III | nice |
| 00:17.09 | PMantis | drumkilla, Sounds great!, but.. "You don't have permission to access /downloads/gtkiaxyprov/ on this server" |
| 00:17.09 | Igbothom_III | and no "X" in sight :) |
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| 00:32.11 | drumkilla | PMantis: well ... it's in cvs |
| 00:32.15 | drumkilla | cvs co gtkiaxyprov |
| 00:33.11 | PMantis | drumkilla, Heh, actually I just finished installing it fom CVS... found it. |
| 00:33.32 | drumkilla | cool |
| 00:33.34 | PMantis | Looks pretty good! |
| 00:33.38 | drumkilla | yay! |
| 00:33.40 | drumkilla | :D |
| 00:34.16 | PMantis | the original was file based, kinds climsy in a way, but the first thing I would ask for in the gtk version is ability to save config to file. :) |
| 00:34.39 | drumkilla | heh |
| 00:34.54 | drumkilla | sounds like too much effort :-p |
| 00:34.57 | PMantis | See? looked at it for fve inutes, and already increasing the scope for you. :) |
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| 00:44.27 | Katty | i have found the basis of my new kitty. |
| 00:44.31 | Katty | http://www.pololu.com/products/joinmax/0095/ |
| 00:45.06 | Katty | i shall start my fabric search tomorrow. |
| 00:45.16 | Katty | all kitties must be soft. |
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| 00:52.28 | brookshire | gtkiaxyprov is sooo rad :) |
| 00:53.39 | brookshire | the funny part about that program |
| 00:54.02 | brookshire | is the confirmation after you prov an ixy |
| 00:54.03 | brookshire | iaxy |
| 00:54.07 | brookshire | heh |
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| 00:54.40 | GeorgiGeorgiev | brookshire:towarisht?:> |
| 00:55.10 | brookshire | ?? |
| 00:55.15 | GeorgiGeorgiev | ops..wrong Matt:> |
| 00:55.27 | brookshire | oh.. is that russian? |
| 00:55.32 | GeorgiGeorgiev | seems to be:P |
| 00:55.38 | brookshire | privot ;) |
| 00:55.44 | brookshire | is that how you spell it? |
| 00:55.48 | GeorgiGeorgiev | nope:> |
| 00:55.50 | brookshire | HAHA |
| 00:55.54 | brookshire | i suck at russian :( |
| 00:55.56 | GeorgiGeorgiev | "privet"'s better:P |
| 00:55.57 | GeorgiGeorgiev | :> |
| 00:56.04 | GeorgiGeorgiev | yeah, me too:> |
| 00:56.05 | brookshire | yeah... |
| 00:56.11 | brookshire | you would think i would know more |
| 00:56.13 | GeorgiGeorgiev | russian sucks!:> |
| 00:56.15 | brookshire | i use to date a russian |
| 00:56.29 | GeorgiGeorgiev | ask some other Matt! the one, that was on Astricon...the little one:> |
| 00:56.40 | brookshire | matt f and matt o know russian |
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| 00:56.52 | brookshire | matt f = creslin |
| 00:56.53 | Qwell | All Matts must know russian |
| 00:56.56 | GeorgiGeorgiev | u don't need to date in russian...they're dating w/i words:> |
| 00:56.59 | GeorgiGeorgiev | just fucking:> |
| 00:56.59 | brookshire | matt o = mogorman |
| 00:57.10 | GeorgiGeorgiev | I don't remember their names:> |
| 00:57.30 | GeorgiGeorgiev | but the little one speaks russian very good!:> |
| 00:57.49 | brookshire | yeah.. i kinda messed that relationship up... too much miscommunication :/ |
| 00:58.15 | GeorgiGeorgiev | u were on the Astricon? |
| 00:58.20 | brookshire | no :( |
| 00:58.34 | GeorgiGeorgiev | it was great!:> |
| 00:58.39 | brookshire | i heard it was! :D |
| 00:58.47 | mog_home | that it was |
| 00:59.03 | mog_home | i need to get the pics of me passed out though |
| 00:59.13 | GeorgiGeorgiev | mog_home:whom of Matts are ya?:> |
| 00:59.14 | mog_home | yeah ive seen em |
| 00:59.21 | brookshire | georgia: mog_home is one of the russian speaking matts |
| 00:59.22 | mog_home | matt ogorman = mog |
| 00:59.23 | GeorgiGeorgiev | little one?:> |
| 00:59.26 | mog_home | big one |
| 00:59.33 | GeorgiGeorgiev | yeah I remember ya:> |
| 00:59.55 | GeorgiGeorgiev | I'm the one big, cursing, drinking bulgarian guy.... from asteriskguru |
| 01:00.01 | mog_home | ahh |
| 01:00.05 | GeorgiGeorgiev | with Zoa and Davy:> |
| 01:00.13 | GeorgiGeorgiev | I've just landed in Bulgaria:> |
| 01:00.32 | mog_home | yeah |
| 01:00.37 | mog_home | glad yall made it back |
| 01:00.53 | GeorgiGeorgiev | so, how's this linksys... will u burn it with some stlinux?:P |
| 01:01.02 | brookshire | zoa is one cool dude :) |
| 01:01.04 | GeorgiGeorgiev | astlinux I mean:> |
| 01:01.23 | GeorgiGeorgiev | yeah...he's my boss:> |
| 01:01.44 | brookshire | :D |
| 01:01.52 | Qwell | GeorgiGeorgiev: y0 |
| 01:01.58 | GeorgiGeorgiev | yo yo:> |
| 01:02.11 | glm2k | astricon was great. the free beer made it even greater >:) |
| 01:02.12 | GeorgiGeorgiev | Qwell:and who are you?:> |
| 01:02.20 | Qwell | GeorgiGeorgiev: I was sitting across from you at dinner |
| 01:02.28 | GeorgiGeorgiev | glm2k:THAT beer suck man... |
| 01:02.39 | Qwell | free beer can't suck...its free |
| 01:02.39 | brookshire | mog: does gentoo ever get into compile loops when you install it? |
| 01:02.46 | GeorgiGeorgiev | Qwell:dinner in the chieniese restaurant? |
| 01:02.50 | Qwell | GeorgiGeorgiev: persian |
| 01:02.56 | brookshire | i think it's doing the same thing over and over again |
| 01:03.00 | Qwell | the last night there |
| 01:03.01 | brookshire | but i'm not sure |
| 01:03.02 | brookshire | lol |
| 01:03.14 | GeorgiGeorgiev | Qwell:yeah, what's up buddy?:> |
| 01:03.27 | GeorgiGeorgiev | do you remember those O.C. bitch on the table nearby?:> |
| 01:03.37 | Qwell | nah, I left early |
| 01:03.46 | GeorgiGeorgiev | na..that's not good:> |
| 01:04.05 | GeorgiGeorgiev | after that, we went to Newport bitch! |
| 01:04.07 | GeorgiGeorgiev | ops...beach |
| 01:04.10 | Qwell | haha |
| 01:05.02 | GeorgiGeorgiev | with Mark, Zoa, Davy and a little guy....I do not remember his name...but he's cool! |
| 01:05.29 | brookshire | matt f |
| 01:05.33 | brookshire | probably |
| 01:05.36 | GeorgiGeorgiev | nope |
| 01:05.42 | GeorgiGeorgiev | he was no Matt... |
| 01:05.52 | Qwell | That rules out about 50% of Astricon attendees |
| 01:05.54 | GeorgiGeorgiev | I have no good memory for names... |
| 01:06.27 | GeorgiGeorgiev | just for that blonde bitch...on the bar...with free beer:> |
| 01:07.19 | GeorgiGeorgiev | here is 4a.m. |
| 01:07.25 | GeorgiGeorgiev | i'm going to bed |
| 01:07.38 | GeorgiGeorgiev | good night:> |
| 01:07.53 | mog_home | lol |
| 01:07.59 | mog_home | there were a lot of matts |
| 01:08.04 | GeorgiGeorgiev | yeah I know |
| 01:08.18 | GeorgiGeorgiev | but there was one Matt, speaking perfekt russian!:> |
| 01:08.22 | GeorgiGeorgiev | the little one!:> |
| 01:08.40 | twisted | that's matt f |
| 01:08.48 | mog_home | yeah he owns |
| 01:08.54 | mog_home | i can understand pretty well |
| 01:08.59 | mog_home | wish i could speak it better |
| 01:09.09 | [hC] | Sup twist |
| 01:09.29 | GeorgiGeorgiev | why?:> |
| 01:09.43 | GeorgiGeorgiev | It was amazing....50% of the conference attendants were speaking russian... |
| 01:09.52 | GeorgiGeorgiev | and no one of them was from europe even:> |
| 01:11.41 | mog_home | yeah russian rocks |
| 01:13.03 | GeorgiGeorgiev | specialy russian girls:P |
| 01:13.09 | GeorgiGeorgiev | those sluts:P |
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| 01:14.42 | mog_home | lol |
| 01:14.48 | mog_home | so true |
| 01:14.48 | Craigles | Hi, has anybody had problems with voicemail and ISDN passive cards ? |
| 01:17.23 | Qwell | wonder if I can provision an iaxy using an x100p connected to it... |
| 01:17.38 | JerJer | eh? |
| 01:17.50 | Qwell | all my analog phones are packed |
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| 01:18.11 | JerJer | you cannot provision over the analog interface |
| 01:18.16 | Qwell | no, I know that |
| 01:18.17 | JerJer | only ethernet |
| 01:18.44 | Qwell | I guess I meant provision it and test it with the x100p |
| 01:18.55 | JerJer | like how? |
| 01:19.00 | Qwell | fucked if I know... |
| 01:19.04 | JerJer | the extra port on the x100p is very simply a pass thru |
| 01:19.05 | kshumard_home | Qwell, x100p is an FXO... IAXy only does FXS signalling |
| 01:19.06 | Qwell | haven't gotten that far yet, heh |
| 01:19.18 | Qwell | yes, but FXO plugs into an FXS |
| 01:19.36 | copantl | hello kshumard_home |
| 01:19.42 | kshumard_home | copantl, hi |
| 01:20.25 | Qwell | Dial(Zap/1/123), where 123 is the extension of my 7960 |
| 01:20.44 | Qwell | dial out the fxo, into the iaxy, the iaxy sends the call to asterisk, and * sends it to the cisco? heh |
| 01:21.18 | Qwell | softphone>*>fxo>iaxy>*>7960 |
| 01:21.32 | Qwell | Am I missing something critical? |
| 01:22.13 | kshumard_home | Qwell, you can't dial out the fxo into the iaxy |
| 01:22.17 | Qwell | why not? |
| 01:22.44 | kshumard_home | because of the signalling types.... the IAXy can only speak to stations (FXS), not to lines (FXO) |
| 01:22.47 | kshumard_home | that won't work |
| 01:22.51 | [hC] | Didnt someone say that the "asterisk on the wrt54g" shit had two FXO ports on it, too? the one they gave away maybe? |
| 01:22.57 | mog_home | no you have it mixed up kenny |
| 01:23.00 | Qwell | the IAXy IS an FXS. It talks to Phones (which are just FXO) |
| 01:23.00 | [hC] | I think i recall someone saying that |
| 01:23.01 | mog_home | he has an fxo card |
| 01:23.25 | Qwell | I think I need a beer |
| 01:23.26 | mog_home | not fxo signalling |
| 01:23.36 | kshumard_home | maybe I'm not understanding the setup then |
| 01:24.25 | mog_home | qwell why would you want to do that anyways though |
| 01:24.33 | Qwell | mog_home: because my analog phones are all packed away |
| 01:24.58 | Qwell | kshumard_home: from an iax softphone, I call exten 123 (which is the extension of my 7960), through Zap/1 (which is the FXO connected to the iaxy), the iaxy sees phone number "123" from a "phone(the fxo)", and sends it into asterisk, which would send it to exten 123 (which is the 7960) |
| 01:25.07 | mog_home | but if end goal is 7960 why not go softphone > * >* to 7960 |
| 01:25.12 | mog_home | or just direct |
| 01:25.14 | Qwell | mog_home: to test the iaxy |
| 01:25.19 | mog_home | ahh |
| 01:25.24 | Qwell | thats the only point of it |
| 01:25.34 | mog_home | makes sense |
| 01:25.36 | Qwell | in theory that would work, right? |
| 01:25.47 | mog_home | yes it would |
| 01:25.49 | mog_home | but its lame |
| 01:25.52 | Qwell | yeah, very |
| 01:26.03 | Qwell | maybe I'll wait until Tuesday/Wednesday |
| 01:26.20 | mog_home | why not just make a phone |
| 01:26.25 | mog_home | or buy one for cheapo |
| 01:26.30 | Qwell | lazy/broke |
| 01:26.37 | Qwell | make one? |
| 01:28.04 | mog_home | sure |
| 01:28.05 | mog_home | why not |
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| 01:29.28 | twisted | mog!! |
| 01:29.33 | tzanger | werd to the mog |
| 01:29.41 | twisted | mog: howd the lactation conf go? |
| 01:29.58 | mog_home | well well |
| 01:30.01 | tzanger | lactation conf? did he take a breastfeeding class or does he work in dairy? |
| 01:30.06 | Katty | tzanger: hey now. |
| 01:30.08 | mog_home | i actually met some people from that con in the bar |
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| 01:30.11 | mog_home | one night |
| 01:30.12 | tzanger | Katty: what? |
| 01:30.15 | twisted | iunno... i saw pics |
| 01:30.20 | mog_home | where are they |
| 01:30.23 | Katty | tzanger: you're talking like breast feeding is a bad thing. |
| 01:30.24 | twisted | mog: so did i :P |
| 01:30.25 | jdv79 | has anyone had zap cards flake out before? |
| 01:30.34 | jdv79 | i think i might have lost one today:( |
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| 01:30.48 | tzanger | Katty: no I'm not, I am actually (very seriously) a huge proponent of it, I think it gives kids the best start possible |
| 01:30.58 | Katty | tzanger: goodly. |
| 01:31.00 | mog_home | dittos |
| 01:31.05 | mog_home | just dont do it in public |
| 01:31.14 | twisted | there's nothing wrong with it in public |
| 01:31.17 | Katty | why not? |
| 01:31.21 | tzanger | even if women don't breastfeed more than the first week, it's the colostrum that is the biggest benefit, but it's the bonding that also does so much if she decides to continue |
| 01:31.23 | mog_home | same reason i dont piss in pbulic |
| 01:31.26 | Katty | as if babies don't get hungry in public |
| 01:31.33 | Katty | that's just nonsense. |
| 01:31.36 | jdv79 | what is /dev/zap/ctl? its not coming up. |
| 01:31.37 | twisted | mog_home, you do actually |
| 01:31.41 | mog_home | lol |
| 01:31.41 | kshumard_home | oh come on, like you've *never* pissed in public?? |
| 01:31.42 | Katty | you eat in public, dont' you? |
| 01:31.43 | twisted | if you use public restrooms |
| 01:31.45 | mog_home | i go into a stall |
| 01:31.53 | mog_home | lock the door |
| 01:31.55 | tzanger | mog_home: well there's a huge difference between doing it discretely and flopping a 55FFF udder out and making a big show of it |
| 01:31.56 | mog_home | piss in private |
| 01:31.58 | kshumard_home | jdv79, check /usr/src/zaptel/README.udev if you're using a 2.6 kernel |
| 01:31.59 | twisted | it's no different than going behind a bush |
| 01:32.06 | mog_home | true |
| 01:32.13 | Katty | mog_home: a child eating is not like that |
| 01:32.20 | mog_home | well i think when nessicary its fine to |
| 01:32.34 | mog_home | but i think it is rude to do it in public if not absolutely needed |
| 01:32.40 | jdv79 | kshumard_home, i did all that - i was working this morning. then the power flicked off for about 2 seconds (no UPS) and now its not working. |
| 01:32.45 | mog_home | but its a personal opinion |
| 01:32.49 | mog_home | im not gonna stop anyone |
| 01:32.51 | twisted | *nods* |
| 01:32.52 | Katty | mog_home: and why is feeding a child rude in public? you feed yourself in public. |
| 01:32.52 | jdv79 | rather, it was working this morning. |
| 01:32.56 | tzanger | I've run the enitre gamut of breastfeeding shows... from the "holy shit you've got a baby there!" to the "Ahh I see you just want me to see your boobs in public" |
| 01:33.11 | kshumard_home | Katty, have you seen mog eat? It's pretty rude.... |
| 01:33.12 | mog_home | i think its mostly because in the united states boobs are considered sexual |
| 01:33.17 | mog_home | lol |
| 01:33.23 | twisted | boobs CAN be sexual |
| 01:33.33 | Katty | mog_home: they are sexual. but they're also much more. |
| 01:33.33 | jdv79 | in the US they _are_ |
| 01:33.34 | tzanger | it can be done very easily, very discreetly. My ex wife did it and unless you knew exactly what was happenning you'd think she was just sitting there waiting for the bus or something |
| 01:33.36 | mog_home | nah its a culture thing |
| 01:33.42 | kshumard_home | jdv79, sounds like it might have been fried, then.... maybe try the card in a different pci slot or machine? |
| 01:33.44 | mog_home | like if women all wore hats |
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| 01:33.58 | mog_home | wed all be looking at girls with hats off thinking how sexy that is |
| 01:34.02 | jdv79 | :( - i thought so. |
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| 01:34.12 | twisted | mog_home, they're not? |
| 01:34.13 | tzanger | mog_home: haha culture's a weird thing |
| 01:34.20 | Katty | mog_home: i don't agree with your viewpoint. |
| 01:34.24 | mog_home | they are |
| 01:34.26 | tzanger | reminds me of an amish porn joke site I saw years and years ago |
| 01:34.27 | Katty | mog_home: i would never deny a hungry child, if it were mine. |
| 01:34.39 | tzanger | this woman was eating an apple and the pic was to the "oral fixation" gallery |
| 01:34.41 | mog_home | then dont |
| 01:34.49 | Katty | mog_home: and neither will most mothers, i think you'll find |
| 01:34.51 | tzanger | or one had her skirt hiked up and you could see 1" of ankle |
| 01:34.52 | Qwell | okay...if I may step in |
| 01:34.52 | mog_home | i just dont like it |
| 01:34.56 | tzanger | what else was there, heh |
| 01:34.58 | Qwell | This is why you have pumps and bottles |
| 01:35.00 | Qwell | but... |
| 01:35.12 | mog_home | its like how i dont like smokers leaving cigeratte butts everywhere |
| 01:35.16 | mog_home | but im not ever gonna stop it |
| 01:35.21 | tzanger | Qwell: no no no... I damn near got kicked out of the maternity ward the first time I saw a hospital grade dual pumper |
| 01:35.39 | twisted | lol |
| 01:35.55 | twisted | tzanger, it doesn't go THERE |
| 01:36.16 | tzanger | I am ashamed to say it but it was one of the most screamingly funny contraptions I"ve ever seen put to use... I mean I design equipment for a living and I would have made DAMN sure that the thing did NOT look like a dairy milker, no matter HOW similar the processes were |
| 01:36.58 | tzanger | the nurse turned to me and gave me a look that would have burned a hole through a 3-foot cinder block wall, I tell you |
| 01:37.01 | tzanger | twisted: hahah |
| 01:37.08 | PMantis | I've checked and double-checked and even with IAX2 debugging on, iaxcomm only causes this in CLI: "NOTICE[9712]: chan_iax2.c:3991 register_verify: Inappropriate authentication received" |
| 01:37.28 | twisted | Katty, :( |
| 01:37.43 | Katty | twisted: you're all annoying me. |
| 01:37.53 | Katty | twisted: with your childish views of children and motherhood. |
| 01:38.01 | jdv79 | y'all are strange |
| 01:38.06 | twisted | Katty, since when did I give childish views? |
| 01:38.29 | Katty | twisted: i was refering to #asterisk in general. probably specifically mog_home |
| 01:38.35 | twisted | Katty, ah. |
| 01:38.46 | twisted | okay, i'll take it 1/172nd less personal |
| 01:38.52 | Katty | kthx |
| 01:38.58 | mog_home | sorry katty didnt meen to offend |
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| 01:39.54 | twisted | but just for the record: I totally agree with you Katty - it's a beautiful thing. I haven't been around it enough, however, to really see the impact on society |
| 01:39.59 | twisted | s/society/public |
| 01:40.31 | littleball | hello, anyone here has experience of setup conference call? |
| 01:40.32 | twisted | we just had a little fun with a passed-out mog one night :P |
| 01:40.43 | mog_home | i still want copy of photos |
| 01:40.46 | kshumard_home | PMantis, what version of asterisk? what authentication settings do you have? |
| 01:40.48 | littleball | what is the difference of meetme app and conference app? |
| 01:40.50 | PMantis | littleball, Yeah, you mean with meetme? |
| 01:40.58 | kshumard_home | good god, I don't |
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| 01:41.11 | Katty | mog_home: perhaps you just have some growing up to do |
| 01:41.11 | littleball | PMantis, how is the performance of using meetme? |
| 01:41.26 | PMantis | kshumard_home, 1.0.9 and tha was with plaintext. I just tried md5, and got a step further... |
| 01:41.57 | PMantis | littleball, Works very well... Digium hardware is used fr timing |
| 01:42.20 | mog_home | ugh, i just find it rude to the people around you, it has nothing to do with anything else |
| 01:42.20 | Katty | mog_home: there is nothing shameful with the human for, or the way it works. |
| 01:42.36 | Katty | s/for/form/ |
| 01:42.38 | twisted | yea |
| 01:42.38 | mog_home | well people dont do several human things in public |
| 01:42.44 | mog_home | its just culture |
| 01:42.51 | littleball | PMantis, i am using te411p card. it works. I am looking for some reference of the performance and scalability of meetme |
| 01:42.57 | bjohnson | you can even get arrested for some things |
| 01:43.21 | bjohnson | like urinating on the statuary in Washington |
| 01:43.21 | kshumard_home | PMantis, what happened with md5? |
| 01:43.27 | PMantis | littleball, I don't know scalability, but I have a 500Mhz machine at home... and 6 extensions. I've placed all 6 there, and it was fine. |
| 01:43.34 | PMantis | kshumard_home, "NOTICE[9712]: chan_iax2.c:3983 register_verify: Host 192.168.100.56 failed MD5 authentication for 'username' (a4344f78c8172c0a8aa7a2be04585439 != ddeec81a000000000000000000000000)" |
| 01:43.49 | tzanger | bjohnson: I pray you didn't find this out from personal experience? |
| 01:43.53 | PMantis | "username" and IP address changed for security. :) |
| 01:43.57 | twisted | i think the climate transition has screwed up my respratory system |
| 01:44.07 | littleball | PMantis, i found that sometimes, the asterisk doesn't notice the channels disconnection. |
| 01:44.11 | bjohnson | hehe |
| 01:44.22 | kshumard_home | PMantis, yeah, no worries. Silly question, but I have to ask... the secrets really are the same on each side? |
| 01:44.22 | PMantis | littleball, I never noticed. |
| 01:45.08 | PMantis | kshumard_home, Yeah... I used something like blahuser27 (text & number) |
| 01:45.48 | PMantis | kshumard_home, I even copied and pasted from iax.conf |
| 01:47.15 | Rowter | asterisk 1.0.9 does nos read #includes with wildcards? |
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| 01:49.05 | kshumard_home | PMantis, what version of iaxcomm? |
| 01:49.45 | kshumard_home | PMantis, could you pastebin an iax debug of the exchange? |
| 01:50.21 | brookshire | twisted: i think it was the bush |
| 01:50.31 | twisted | brookshire, hmm? |
| 01:50.39 | PMantis | kshumard_home, a deb based version 20050725 |
| 01:50.48 | PMantis | kshumard_home, CVS |
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| 01:51.21 | Brijn | Ayone played with estival recently? |
| 01:51.25 | Brijn | Festival |
| 01:51.31 | PMantis | kshumard_home, With iaxdebugging enabled, I see nothing more. :( |
| 01:52.05 | Rowter | in asterisk stable 1.0.9 #include "extensions.d/*.conf" this is not working mmh. |
| 01:52.21 | mog_home | yeah rowter its in 1.2 |
| 01:52.50 | kshumard_home | PMantis, you should see more... I want to see the iax2 messages, see the authmethods IE and make sure iaxcomm is sending an MD5_response IE |
| 01:52.58 | kshumard_home | PMantis, it most certainly will show you more though |
| 01:53.02 | brookshire | rowter: use 1.2 beta 1 |
| 01:53.04 | brookshire | :) |
| 01:53.08 | brookshire | or cvs |
| 01:53.49 | Rowter | its cause I want to test this but on stable 1.0.9 http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=4244 its a big pain on beta 1 or cvs head. |
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| 01:55.33 | PMantis | kshumard_home, I know what I'm supposed to see... I've used SIP debugging as well. Can I PM a screencap to you? |
| 01:56.02 | kshumard_home | PMantis, sure |
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| 01:57.46 | kshumard_home | what up schuylerdigium ?? |
| 01:57.52 | schuylerdigium | hey man... |
| 01:58.03 | schuylerdigium | reading this new Asterisk book. |
| 01:58.39 | schuylerdigium | what's up kshumard?? |
| 01:59.31 | kshumard_home | I browsed that asterisk book for about 15 minutes at b&n last night.... seems pretty sweet |
| 01:59.34 | kshumard_home | pretty well written |
| 01:59.47 | kshumard_home | I dig that there's a whole chapter on AGI, but I wish they would have devoted a whole chapter to Manager, as well |
| 01:59.51 | schuylerdigium | oh yah. i like it. |
| 02:00.09 | schuylerdigium | i was having problems installling asterisk on my mac, though. :( |
| 02:00.09 | brookshire | you know you can download it free now |
| 02:00.12 | brookshire | the book |
| 02:00.14 | schuylerdigium | really? |
| 02:00.18 | schuylerdigium | how? |
| 02:00.54 | brookshire | http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/xoopsheadline/index.php?id=2#http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=1042 |
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| 02:01.18 | brookshire | or i guess this is a better link: http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=1042 |
| 02:01.36 | kshumard_home | Yeah, definitely downloaded that as reading material for the plane trip tomorrow |
| 02:02.07 | schuylerdigium | yah.. for sure |
| 02:03.57 | schuylerdigium | where you flying ot? |
| 02:04.19 | schuylerdigium | out of HSV to atlanta? |
| 02:04.21 | schuylerdigium | memphis? |
| 02:04.26 | schuylerdigium | houston? |
| 02:04.27 | kshumard_home | HSV to DFW to SJC |
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| 02:04.41 | kshumard_home | errr, Houston, you're right. : ) |
| 02:04.45 | kshumard_home | SJC == San Jose |
| 02:04.54 | schuylerdigium | brb |
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| 02:06.42 | [hC] | Wow |
| 02:06.52 | [hC] | For the first time in a long time, i am about to pay for a program i use frequently |
| 02:07.10 | brookshire | heh |
| 02:07.50 | twisted | HAHAHAHHAHAHA |
| 02:07.51 | twisted | http://www.wreg.com/Global/story.asp?S=3985032 |
| 02:10.21 | [hC] | "crack house" |
| 02:10.21 | [hC] | nice |
| 02:10.39 | Katty | twisted: :< |
| 02:11.46 | Katty | mister clean's shirt is too tight |
| 02:11.48 | twisted | Katty, ? |
| 02:12.03 | Katty | twisted: 3 yr old shot :< |
| 02:12.07 | twisted | mister clean? |
| 02:12.29 | twisted | oh, yeah, i wasn't laughing at that part, i was laughing at the fact that they advertised it was a crack house |
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| 02:18.32 | schuylerdigium | hi |
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| 02:28.51 | lunk | with multiple zap cards, do i need to configure each card individually? |
| 02:29.04 | lunk | or will one Zap trunk with a max number of channels work on the fly? |
| 02:33.29 | littleball | hi |
| 02:33.36 | JerJer | hoe |
| 02:36.38 | shido6 | ken jennings said "ho" on jeopardy |
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| 03:11.28 | e-Hernick | Hey |
| 03:11.43 | e-Hernick | What do you people think of a Jack * channel |
| 03:12.13 | e-Hernick | As well as Jack audio stream filters |
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| 03:12.21 | twisted | oh |
| 03:12.28 | twisted | i read that as "Jack Asstrisk" |
| 03:13.08 | e-Hernick | The idea is to put Jack support into * for two purposes - 1, using Jack software as * channels and 2 - using Jack software to do processing on audio streams that * normally processes internally. |
| 03:13.24 | e-Hernick | I've been doing that in a very convolved way recently |
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| 03:13.36 | Qwell | seems like a fairly decent idea... |
| 03:13.41 | e-Hernick | Using a separate computer for the audio processing and for the softphone |
| 03:13.45 | Qwell | e-Hernick: I'd ask around for opinions in #asterisk-dev |
| 03:13.56 | e-Hernick | And I have to say, I've developed a filter set with Jac |
| 03:14.06 | e-Hernick | that really enhances sound quality |
| 03:14.33 | Qwell | would be nice to offload transcoding |
| 03:14.56 | Qwell | e-Hernick: were you the one that brought it up in Kevins talk the other day? |
| 03:15.17 | e-Hernick | I'm using a 1024-band adaptive noisegate, compressor and EQ signal path to process my microphone sound and I pipe that into a softphone on another computer. |
| 03:15.26 | e-Hernick | No, I wasn't... |
| 03:15.28 | Qwell | oh |
| 03:15.36 | Qwell | were you there at the time? |
| 03:15.40 | e-Hernick | No. |
| 03:15.42 | Qwell | hmm |
| 03:16.01 | e-Hernick | Now, I'm thinking, if * got Jack support built-in, this lets me use my DSP path on any channel |
| 03:16.03 | Qwell | well, somebody did bring Jack up at Astricon the other day. You might want to see if you can find out who it was, and perhaps persue it |
| 03:16.13 | e-Hernick | Yes, I think it's really worth it |
| 03:16.14 | Qwell | pursue |
| 03:16.15 | Qwell | whatever |
| 03:16.33 | e-Hernick | There's another thing. You could build Linux and OS X softphones that don't have to do audio processing |
| 03:16.48 | e-Hernick | they simply use existing Jack software for the job, and control the dialing and session status and such |
| 03:17.04 | e-Hernick | Cause right now the OSS softphone market is a piece of shit |
| 03:17.15 | e-Hernick | and if softphones could be built without the audio processing crap |
| 03:17.43 | e-Hernick | Well, that'd be quite a thing to make the market bigger and more accesible to anybody with some coding skills but no audio skills |
| 03:18.05 | e-Hernick | Also, and this is quite nice, Asterisk could be used to do Jack signal routing between computers. |
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| 03:18.35 | e-Hernick | Of course, the ultimate avenue for this would be to have a high-frequency multichannel signal path inside * |
| 03:18.42 | e-Hernick | rather than a PoS 8khz hardcoded path |
| 03:19.26 | e-Hernick | Imagine, * could be used to distribute audio between computers. For example, a high-quality PA system could be built with multiple servers running * and Jack. Or, my personal favourite and project that I have right now, an Open Source language Lab. |
| 03:20.10 | e-Hernick | What's a language lab ? It's meant for schools. You've got individual microphones and headphones for students, and they can speak, listen, record, send voice messages, receive instructions and messages from the teacher.. |
| 03:21.03 | e-Hernick | And such a system can help people learn languages. And this is a big project, but we've got 95% of the infrastructure to make it possible: Asterisk, Jack and Jabber. |
| 03:21.25 | e-Hernick | Cause let's face it, * has shitty textual communications support. But Jabber is awesome at that. |
| 03:23.21 | e-Hernick | I figure I can build an OSS language lab real affordable for schools if I * and jack could talk together and * had a flexible internal audio path. |
| 03:24.15 | e-Hernick | But I'll tell you what, * ain't got no beauty in its audio path - it's a godawful 8khz tin-can emulator. |
| 03:24.46 | e-Hernick | And I ain't gonna be able to do this without serious DSP power, which * can't handle right now due to lack of Jack. |
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| 03:26.14 | e-Hernick | So, I figure I gotta start talking and trying to move people to do this, cause for that kind of coding, I ain't got the skills I need. I'll work the language lab software with my team, but we're not into the lower-level languages needed for changing the innards of *. |
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| 03:27.08 | e-Hernick | I figure though, maybe I find here or on the lists somebody with the C skills and the will to do something good, and I show him that he gotta do it, for the children. |
| 03:27.33 | Qwell | e-Hernick: #asterisk-dev |
| 03:27.40 | e-Hernick | There is such a channel ? |
| 03:27.44 | e-Hernick | Sweet. |
| 03:27.45 | Qwell | there is |
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| 03:28.01 | Qwell | e-Hernick: somebody may even already be working on something like that |
| 03:28.16 | e-Hernick | I heard some talk, but people weren't convinced. |
| 03:28.29 | e-Hernick | Those who called for Jack support were not able to defend their position on the lists. |
| 03:28.54 | e-Hernick | But I ain't those people; I can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that * needs Jack. |
| 03:29.39 | e-Hernick | That is, if I get the right words out of my fingers. I wish I understood english better than I do. Ah, the terrible pain of not being a native speaker. |
| 03:29.51 | pauldy | e-Hernick, got a link for jack I'm curious |
| 03:29.56 | e-Hernick | jackit.sf.net |
| 03:30.00 | e-Hernick | It rules |
| 03:30.38 | e-Hernick | It's a realtime audio server that lets you interconnect your audio software together. |
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| 03:32.58 | pauldy | e-Hernick, what prohibits you from using the built in audio inteface and the console device |
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| 03:33.23 | michael_fc4linux | hello |
| 03:33.51 | Qwell | pauldy: from what I assume he's saying, that requires him to be running asterisk on every system |
| 03:34.07 | e-Hernick | Let's see. What if I have 16 audio channels on the same computer ? |
| 03:34.26 | e-Hernick | And that all these audio channels must first be routed through two different programs for DSP. |
| 03:35.13 | pauldy | gotcha so what your really needing is multiple console audio support |
| 03:35.28 | pauldy | which should be quite doable |
| 03:35.52 | pauldy | or multiple audio consoles |
| 03:35.55 | e-Hernick | No. |
| 03:35.59 | e-Hernick | What I need is Jack support. |
| 03:36.07 | e-Hernick | ALSA and OSS are not adequate for audio routing. |
| 03:36.19 | pauldy | ok |
| 03:36.39 | e-Hernick | Jack is a very powerful audio router that already talks to ALSA. Jack is far more powerful than ALSA and OSS. |
| 03:36.45 | pauldy | just might have more luck getting support for multiple audio devices than some new fangled audio transport |
| 03:36.54 | e-Hernick | Man, it's not a newfangled thing. |
| 03:37.02 | pauldy | release .1 |
| 03:37.02 | e-Hernick | All recent Linux audio programs use Jack. |
| 03:37.16 | e-Hernick | We're talking about hundreds of programs, and dozens of very good, reasonably mature ones. |
| 03:37.24 | e-Hernick | uh, release 0.100 |
| 03:37.40 | e-Hernick | Release 0.50.0 was on 2003-02-19 |
| 03:37.46 | e-Hernick | Jack has been in active development ever since. |
| 03:37.54 | e-Hernick | Look at this list: http://jackit.sourceforge.net/apps/ |
| 03:38.05 | e-Hernick | Let's face it, Jack is becoming the standard for Linux audio. That cannot be denied. |
| 03:38.43 | pauldy | I can take one look at the api and tell you there is no way I would develop around that |
| 03:38.45 | e-Hernick | It's very stable, very powerful, and there's nothing that compares. It build upon ALSA and delivers many things that ALSA cannot and will not. |
| 03:38.56 | pauldy | so good luck to ya |
| 03:39.05 | e-Hernick | Well then, why would you not want to do that ? |
| 03:39.35 | Miggidy | hey guys whats is Brian Fertig's handle on here? |
| 03:39.44 | e-Hernick | It's too hard to interface * to the best Audio routing system for Linux ? |
| 03:39.44 | file[laptop] | I wouldn't want any console channel driver in asterisk, but that's just me |
| 03:39.46 | docelm0 | that would be docelm0 |
| 03:39.56 | Miggidy | hey there |
| 03:40.04 | docelm0 | What can I do for you? |
| 03:40.10 | e-Hernick | I know * has a lot of issues with the audio path, but I'm sure those can be fixed. |
| 03:40.11 | Miggidy | I forgot to so thanks before you left yesterday |
| 03:40.17 | docelm0 | for what? |
| 03:40.22 | Miggidy | for ordering me breakfast! |
| 03:40.29 | docelm0 | huh? |
| 03:40.32 | Miggidy | haha its Matt from Australia |
| 03:40.37 | docelm0 | Sup dude.. |
| 03:40.40 | pauldy | file[laptop], I love the console audio for things like PA |
| 03:40.49 | Miggidy | you and mike filled out a breakfast thing and left it on my door |
| 03:40.52 | docelm0 | so they actually send you the breakfast for the other room |
| 03:41.00 | Miggidy | no |
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| 03:41.04 | Miggidy | nobody got it |
| 03:41.04 | docelm0 | I actually took it from another room |
| 03:41.12 | Miggidy | haha |
| 03:41.15 | e-Hernick | If * talked to Jack, I could build a multi-channel PA system that goes through DSP before being sent to the speakers. |
| 03:41.32 | e-Hernick | There are tons of possibilities. |
| 03:41.41 | Miggidy | was pretty funny |
| 03:41.51 | docelm0 | haha |
| 03:41.57 | pauldy | great e-Hernick then why aren;t you working on developing it |
| 03:42.02 | Miggidy | man i'm stuck at LAX bored out of my brains |
| 03:42.10 | Miggidy | I still havent had any sleep |
| 03:42.17 | e-Hernick | I ain't got the skills I need for this kind of coding. |
| 03:43.07 | e-Hernick | I'm just a lowly scripter, and I know what I could do with Jack-aware *; me and my team, we'd build an OSS language lab for schools. |
| 03:43.16 | e-Hernick | But right now, we ain't got the tools we need to do that. |
| 03:43.17 | twisted | doc e. lame-0 |
| 03:43.17 | pauldy | well I can tell you that your barking up the wrong tree anyway |
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| 03:43.59 | e-Hernick | Sure, yeah, I bet I am. But hey, I gotta be aware of what people's feelings are and why they'd shy away from such magnificent development. |
| 03:44.22 | e-Hernick | Then I can gather round my wits and show them the right way, yes ? |
| 03:44.30 | twisted | Miggidy, hows it down under? Didn't you lose a day during travel? |
| 03:44.31 | pauldy | to get what your looking for you would do better barking up a tree for something like multiple audio device support |
| 03:44.44 | twisted | s/didn't/don't |
| 03:44.56 | Qwell | twisted: not if the plane flies west |
| 03:45.00 | Qwell | east, he would |
| 03:45.17 | file[laptop] | twisted!!! |
| 03:45.17 | e-Hernick | Oh yes, multiple audio device support with flexible, realtime audio routing and good interfaces for patching the audio signal between a vast library of existing programs for both Linux and OS X. |
| 03:45.20 | twisted | Qwell, he still would, IIRC |
| 03:45.22 | e-Hernick | That's what I'm looking for. |
| 03:45.25 | twisted | file[laptop]!! |
| 03:45.26 | Qwell | twisted: just fucking with ya :p |
| 03:45.46 | e-Hernick | And there's one way, no more; it's called Jack, and you better get used to it. It's the future of *. |
| 03:45.48 | file[laptop] | I've missed everyone on IRC, it's sad |
| 03:46.23 | pauldy | why do I feel like quoting that old berkley tivia game all the sudden |
| 03:46.29 | Corydon76-home | Jack Daniels is the future of Asterisk? |
| 03:46.34 | pauldy | s/tivia/trivia |
| 03:46.48 | e-Hernick | There ain't no future for America but Jack and *. |
| 03:46.55 | file[laptop] | muffins are the future of Asterisk |
| 03:46.57 | file[laptop] | FACE THE MUFFINS! |
| 03:47.06 | e-Hernick | OR MEET DOOM. |
| 03:47.42 | e-Hernick | There is no * but this * and it is the *. |
| 03:48.06 | twisted | wow |
| 03:48.07 | twisted | someone is gung-ho |
| 03:48.25 | *** join/#asterisk dos000 (n=dos000@i216-58-63-196.cybersurf.com) |
| 03:48.30 | e-Hernick | I wish I knew what that word meant. |
| 03:48.38 | SkramX | Hello all. |
| 03:48.44 | e-Hernick | But such is my lot as a french-canadian. |
| 03:49.01 | Corydon76-home | oh, one of THOSE |
| 03:49.03 | Corydon76-home | ;-) |
| 03:49.05 | e-Hernick | Greetings, mister SkramX. |
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| 03:49.39 | e-Hernick | rumba: it's you ! |
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| 03:50.10 | file[laptop] | I see... alive... people |
| 03:50.30 | dos000 | e-Hernick, i see .. canadians ! |
| 03:50.39 | pauldy | .me rols |
| 03:50.46 | file[laptop] | eep |
| 03:50.52 | e-Hernick | Up with French-Canada! |
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| 03:51.56 | e-Hernick | Imagine the power of Jack-enabled * with a flexible internal audio path. One could easily design a wideband, multi-channel audio conferencing system that uses existing DSP components for the necessary noise gating and signal processing. |
| 03:52.02 | pauldy | up with canada down with freench = meh |
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| 03:52.30 | SkramX | Any residential VOIP providers that will block anonymous calls? |
| 03:52.32 | e-Hernick | Such a system is presently very expensive and open source solutions cannot hope to replicate it... Unless such a system is based on a better * with Jack and a good internal audio path. |
| 03:52.49 | bzbw | hi, anyone know how to configure * to prompt a PIN number verification before dialing any extension? |
| 03:52.51 | e-Hernick | SkramX, why not use * to refuse the anonymous calls ? |
| 03:52.53 | dos000 | whos down with french^^^^^^ OPP |
| 03:53.20 | morale | should i use IAX or SIP with my provider.. IAX is preferred with asterisk I assume? |
| 03:53.25 | e-Hernick | Howdy pauldy, that looks like a mighty fine algorithm you've got there. |
| 03:53.56 | e-Hernick | Can I tune it ? |
| 03:54.05 | dos000 | e-Hernick, better ... i ve heard the idea of using gpu for trancoding ... mmmmmmm ! |
| 03:54.41 | dos000 | i ve heard it here ... just no time to do it myself |
| 03:54.52 | pauldy | bzbw, you might be able to get some ideas by looking at how they do it for dialing long distance etc... |
| 03:55.06 | e-Hernick | dos000, now that's a nice idea, if not a bit unrealistic. But you know what? It makes sense as a future development. Once * has got a flexible internal audio path and interfaces with Jack, your GPU transcoder can easily be programmed as an independent Jack client - making it much more flexible and easier to develop. |
| 03:55.08 | dos000 | bzbw, check areski |
| 03:55.34 | e-Hernick | Jack means that all audio-processing development can take place outside of *. |
| 03:55.51 | bzbw | dos000: what is areski? |
| 03:56.24 | dos000 | bzbw, calling card based on agi .. there is also astcc but i like areski |
| 03:57.16 | dos000 | e-Hernick, as long as it is done in a modular fashion i am all for it. there is also sems that could benefit from this |
| 03:57.21 | bzbw | dos000: where will I find this info? |
| 03:57.33 | dos000 | bzbw google it ! |
| 03:57.39 | e-Hernick | That's why Jack is so important. It's totally modular. It enables you to route audio signals inside the computer, between programs. |
| 03:58.12 | pauldy | e-Hernick, then go to it |
| 03:58.34 | pauldy | c is about as hard as any other language |
| 03:58.43 | dos000 | e-Hernick, i never realized the point of these audio framework. i also read about gstreamer a while back. are they vertical or what ? |
| 03:59.29 | e-Hernick | You can think of Jack as a patch bay. |
| 03:59.44 | dos000 | which one is the way to go ? |
| 04:00.10 | e-Hernick | I can tell Jack to route my audio-in channel 1 to a noise gate, route the noise gate to a DSP and route the DSP to *. |
| 04:00.48 | e-Hernick | They're different. Gstreamer can work as a jack client. It does audio processing, format conversion and compression. |
| 04:00.48 | dos000 | this is exactly the sort of thing gstreamer was advertising IIRC |
| 04:01.14 | e-Hernick | Gstreamer is more than a simple router. As far as audio routing goes, Jack is the best and most widely supported option. |
| 04:01.22 | dos000 | ok |
| 04:01.28 | e-Hernick | Gstreamer is great for other things, and in fact, you can use it as a Jack client. |
| 04:02.09 | dos000 | i am not at all into audio stuff ... |
| 04:02.20 | Qwell | how mature is jack? |
| 04:02.39 | pauldy | Qwell, how mature are any of the sound systems out there |
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| 04:02.52 | Qwell | pauldy: not very |
| 04:02.59 | pauldy | werd |
| 04:03.14 | dos000 | but i bet transcoding the 97** codecs would be fine on the gpu |
| 04:03.15 | e-Hernick | Jack has been under development for a while. The API is reasonably stable, and the server is stable enough for long-term operation with lots of routing. |
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| 04:04.01 | e-Hernick | With Jack support, conference calling could be much more powerful. You could run each channel through a custom external noisegate and compressor. |
| 04:04.10 | dos000 | e-Hernick, what does mplayer use btw ? |
| 04:04.24 | pauldy | e-Hernick, like Ive said your better off getting support for multiple audio devices seeing as how alsa is already somewhat supported |
| 04:04.36 | e-Hernick | mplayer supports jack, among other things. |
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| 04:05.13 | pauldy | dos000, http://jackit.sourceforge.net/apps/ |
| 04:05.24 | e-Hernick | Well, I don't know. ALSA isn't appropriate for this. * should talk to ALSA through Jack. |
| 04:05.55 | pauldy | alsa is more widley used and jack can talk to multiple alsa devices |
| 04:06.07 | pauldy | you rproblem is solved and it will help other stoo |
| 04:06.12 | pauldy | not just jack users |
| 04:06.20 | e-Hernick | There's already an ALSA channel. |
| 04:06.35 | e-Hernick | I figure that those who need to do small-scale stuff can keep using it or OSS. |
| 04:06.43 | pauldy | I give, envangelize brotha I'm out |
| 04:07.14 | e-Hernick | But for multi-channel support, we're talking about complex setups. Is ALSA appropriate when you want to route 4 channels ? What about 16 ? |
| 04:07.31 | e-Hernick | ALSA has very inflexible routing, and right now, so does *. |
| 04:07.45 | e-Hernick | That's exactly why ALSA needs Jack and * needs Jack. |
| 04:07.45 | dos000 | e-Hernick, whats the max you can do in jack ? |
| 04:08.21 | e-Hernick | Also, did I mention that ALSA channels were not realtime and added a lot of latency, something which is incredibly hard to deal with, and JACK makes it easy ? |
| 04:08.34 | dos000 | altho a conference call with more than 16 ppl is aproaching the multicast arena |
| 04:09.00 | e-Hernick | You can do a lot of channels with JACK. The number depends on your computing ressources. |
| 04:09.23 | e-Hernick | You're going to run out of hardware power first. |
| 04:09.31 | dos000 | e-Hernick, realisticly tho .. you will barely need more than 5 or so |
| 04:09.44 | e-Hernick | Uh, no. I will need way more than that. |
| 04:10.01 | dos000 | e-Hernick, what is your application ? |
| 04:10.11 | dos000 | i was referring to * |
| 04:10.35 | e-Hernick | Think about the following setup. Asterisk server. 10-in, 10-out sound card. Preamp bank and 10 microphones and 10 headphones. 10 USB keypads. |
| 04:11.01 | e-Hernick | Do you know how good a those 100$ channels would sound ? |
| 04:11.22 | e-Hernick | Now, * has a defective internal audio path, and that of course needs to be fixed. |
| 04:11.46 | e-Hernick | But we're talking about the ability to build an audio communication systems that has higher quality than anything out there for ten times the price. |
| 04:12.02 | X-Rob | for 1-tenth of the price, possiblt? |
| 04:12.19 | e-Hernick | Well, I meant that the closest competing systems were 10 times the price. |
| 04:12.48 | e-Hernick | Such audio quality would not only make an amazing communications system, but much more. My first project is a language lab for schools, based on this very setup. |
| 04:13.28 | e-Hernick | Listen to the teacher on the headphones, you hear the words very very clearly. Record and listen to your own voice. Listen to exercices. Send voice messages to the teacher and other students, as exercices. |
| 04:13.42 | e-Hernick | And this would all be built upon * and Jack. |
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| 04:14.03 | dos000 | e-Hernick, hmmm ... remote education is thatit ? |
| 04:14.10 | e-Hernick | No. We're talking about a classroom. |
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| 04:14.44 | e-Hernick | Say, 4 * servers interconnected, each handle 10-in 10-out |
| 04:15.16 | morale | can i connect with SIP softphones to an asterisk server communicating to the VoIP provider via IAX2 and still make outbound calls ? |
| 04:15.26 | Qwell | morale: sure |
| 04:15.29 | dos000 | whats 10in 10out ? |
| 04:15.39 | e-Hernick | 10-in audio channels or 10 microphones |
| 04:15.48 | e-Hernick | 10-out audio channels or 10 headphones |
| 04:15.54 | dos000 | ok |
| 04:15.55 | e-Hernick | and 10 USB keypads |
| 04:16.43 | dos000 | hmmm ... and the total cost will be less than a PA system ? |
| 04:17.03 | e-Hernick | It's so much more than a PA system. |
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| 04:17.25 | X-Rob | well, good luck, e-Hernick |
| 04:17.42 | AJMinneapolis | hey guys what else do you have to do to get Meetme to work after installing Asterisk? i edited extensions and meetme.conf |
| 04:18.12 | X-Rob | AJMinneapolis - google for 'ztdummy' |
| 04:18.12 | e-Hernick | I've got people here working on this as volunteers, and I've got two schools that are buying the equipement if I can make the software. |
| 04:18.21 | e-Hernick | But the problem is I ain't got nobody that can do * and Jack work. |
| 04:18.25 | dos000 | e-Hernick, nice |
| 04:18.30 | X-Rob | e-Hernick - tried the openpbx guys? |
| 04:18.35 | X-Rob | uh. openpbx.org |
| 04:18.52 | e-Hernick | And I ain't got money either, this is a volunteer OSS project. |
| 04:18.54 | X-Rob | IIRC they were bitching about alsa a couple of days ago. |
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| 04:19.04 | twisted | oh |
| 04:19.06 | twisted | so what you're saying is |
| 04:19.10 | twisted | you can't code |
| 04:19.14 | twisted | but you've told people you can |
| 04:19.22 | e-Hernick | No. |
| 04:19.27 | twisted | and so you want people to do it for free so you can get the equipment |
| 04:19.31 | e-Hernick | I can code just fine, not just that kind of stuff. |
| 04:19.32 | e-Hernick | What ? |
| 04:19.38 | dasuberdavid | lolk |
| 04:19.45 | e-Hernick | I'm not getting any equipment out of this. I've got all the equipement I need right here, paid out of my own pocket. |
| 04:19.52 | twisted | you just said above3 |
| 04:19.55 | mmlj4 | heh, i openly tell people i'm not a programmer, though I do have few projects on freshmeat |
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| 04:20.02 | twisted | [23:18] e-HernickI've got people here working on this as volunteers, and I've got two schools that are buying the equipement if I can make the software. |
| 04:20.08 | X-Rob | I'm not a programmer, I just play one on the net. |
| 04:20.11 | e-Hernick | I do audio recording and music production for fun, but I think I can bring my expertise and make this project a reality. |
| 04:20.17 | e-Hernick | The schools are buying the equipment for themselves. |
| 04:20.18 | pauldy | what are they using there mambo |
| 04:20.22 | twisted | oooh |
| 04:20.28 | e-Hernick | And that's only if I manage to build the software. |
| 04:20.29 | twisted | but they're obviously going to pay you for it |
| 04:20.35 | e-Hernick | Uh, no they're not. |
| 04:20.36 | Qwell | X-Rob: I'm not a programmer, but I've stayed at a Holiday Inn Express |
| 04:20.45 | twisted | right |
| 04:20.45 | X-Rob | Qwell - *laugh* |
| 04:20.53 | twisted | i'll believe that about as far as I can throw docelm0 |
| 04:20.57 | pauldy | Qwell, funny |
| 04:21.01 | e-Hernick | As I said, this is a volunteer project with the F?d?ration de l'Information Libre, which is dedicated to the furthering of open source solutions in education |
| 04:21.19 | twisted | i would say as fara s i can throw Qwell, but he's small. |
| 04:21.27 | X-Rob | I'm a fat fucker. You can't throw me. |
| 04:21.30 | e-Hernick | And this project is far bigger than *, but * is an important component. And right now, I don't have the ressources to fix *. |
| 04:21.33 | twisted | X-Rob, lol |
| 04:21.36 | e-Hernick | But I have the ressources to do the rest. |
| 04:22.02 | X-Rob | e-Hernick - Well, you're going to have to convince someone to do your work for you. For free. |
| 04:22.04 | dos000 | e-Hernick, i fail to see why you need * in the first place |
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| 04:22.15 | Qwell | twisted: yeah, docelm0 might be a bit harder to throw |
| 04:22.15 | X-Rob | The way FOSS stuff works is that someone finds an itch they want to scratch, and they scratch it. |
| 04:22.16 | e-Hernick | It's not my "work" |
| 04:22.20 | twisted | Qwell, :P |
| 04:22.27 | e-Hernick | It's a project I'd like to see done, but I'm not getting paid for it. |
| 04:22.43 | X-Rob | At the moment, I'm guessing that everyone who can program, or who is willing to learn to program, doesn't find that itchy. |
| 04:22.48 | e-Hernick | All I'll get if I manage to do it is a warm and fuzzy feeling. I've not committed to doing this, I said I'd try my best, and I will. |
| 04:23.00 | e-Hernick | Myself, I'm not the best programmer out there, I'll give you that. I can do nice stuff, but I work with scripting languages. |
| 04:23.02 | twisted | then you're going to need to either malloc() your own resources, or find someone who can afford to do it for free() |
| 04:23.19 | dos000 | e-Hernick, any server you build yourself would do a better and faster job |
| 04:23.20 | Qwell | or, as X-Rob said earlier, talk to the fork() guys |
| 04:23.20 | X-Rob | twisted - you just freed a null. |
| 04:23.20 | Qwell | :D |
| 04:23.25 | twisted | X-Rob, EXACTLY! |
| 04:23.41 | pauldy | dose openpbx even wrok yet? |
| 04:23.54 | twisted | pauldy, i should hope so, considering it's Asterisk with a differnet labe. |
| 04:23.55 | ZX81 | yes |
| 04:23.56 | twisted | s/labe/label |
| 04:24.04 | e-Hernick | dos000, sure, but remember, this is a volunteer thing. I've only got so much people and man-hours I can allocate, and I think it's not gonna be doable if I don't have something like * to use as a foundation. |
| 04:24.10 | pauldy | really twisted howd they manage that? |
| 04:24.19 | twisted | pauldy, it's called forking. |
| 04:24.27 | X-Rob | twisted - there's new stuff going in there slowly. chan_capi and bristuff, T38, um. some other stuff that I've forgotten |
| 04:24.32 | X-Rob | at the moment it's asterisk+autoconf. |
| 04:24.38 | pauldy | well howd they forking dew that if digium owns the code |
| 04:24.41 | e-Hernick | oooooh |
| 04:24.43 | e-Hernick | hooray |
| 04:24.48 | Qwell | pauldy: because its gpl |
| 04:24.48 | ZX81 | everyone downloaded the book? |
| 04:24.51 | twisted | pauldy, gpl |
| 04:24.53 | twisted | pauldy, read it. |
| 04:25.00 | brookshire[home] | everyone needs there own fork! |
| 04:25.09 | brookshire[home] | their also |
| 04:25.11 | brookshire[home] | LOL |
| 04:25.21 | twisted | fork you, brookshire |
| 04:25.25 | twisted | oh |
| 04:25.38 | e-Hernick | where the asterisk community sleeps at the switch, clinging to their antiquated and conservative views that prevent them from developing the voice server of the future, openpbx shall surely lead the way and be the foundation for magnificent applications that the asterisk community's limited imagination could not conceive |
| 04:25.45 | twisted | speaking of you, brookshire, do you know where I can get an airport extreme card for my dual g4? |
| 04:25.47 | X-Rob | wtf? |
| 04:26.04 | twisted | brookshire, and for cheap? |
| 04:26.06 | e-Hernick | my hope has been renewed, for the I am certain that the rebel openpbx developers will be receptive to my call |
| 04:26.12 | dos000 | brookshire, i find its about time somone raised eyebrows to digium |
| 04:26.14 | pauldy | twisted, I always thought asterisk was a modified gpl |
| 04:26.27 | Qwell | pauldy: pure gpl, dual licensed...same as mysql |
| 04:26.27 | twisted | pauldy, it's dual licensed |
| 04:26.28 | X-Rob | pauldy - there's no such thing as amodified GPL |
| 04:26.35 | X-Rob | it's GPL or NOT GPL |
| 04:26.53 | X-Rob | file[laptop] - it was much better when you were headbutting it. |
| 04:27.04 | ZX81 | http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=1042 |
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| 04:27.11 | ZX81 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.02 | twisted | *nods* |
| 04:28.10 | brookshire | i could have ghosted it |
| 04:28.13 | brookshire | but i'm lazy |
| 04:28.15 | brookshire | HEHE |
| 04:28.18 | twisted | yeah. and fat. |
| 04:28.22 | twisted | now |
| 04:28.23 | brookshire | *pffft* |
| 04:28.25 | twisted | about that airport extreme |
| 04:28.33 | brookshire | what about it? |
| 04:28.33 | twisted | hahahaha |
| 04:28.34 | ZX81 | dd |
| 04:28.40 | ZX81 | make an image |
| 04:28.41 | twisted | where can I get one cheap? |
| 04:28.45 | ZX81 | a fish? |
| 04:28.48 | ZX81 | from the sea |
| 04:28.54 | brookshire | ebay? |
| 04:29.20 | brookshire | you know.. |
| 04:29.21 | twisted | brookshire, that works. |
| 04:29.26 | brookshire | i love how everyone likes to bash asterisk :) |
| 04:29.33 | twisted | ooh |
| 04:29.35 | twisted | bash# asterisk |
| 04:29.43 | dos000 | ZX81, no mention of ser :-( |
| 04:29.46 | pauldy | We will not have the dual license concerns. woohoo |
| 04:30.05 | brookshire | yet if it was not for asterisk.. telephony would still be closed and proprietary |
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| 04:30.24 | ZX81 | dos000 ser |
| 04:30.33 | ZX81 | you want me to mention ser? |
| 04:30.37 | ZX81 | heh |
| 04:30.48 | twisted | brookshire, that's because people are selfish biatches |
| 04:30.54 | dos000 | brookshire, someone like gunbayone or even ser would have prevailed .. there was even vovida at one point ! |
| 04:30.56 | ZX81 | mmmmm shellfish |
| 04:30.59 | ZX81 | I like shellfish |
| 04:31.03 | ZX81 | but not snails |
| 04:31.16 | twisted | ZX81, i did not see you @ *con |
| 04:31.18 | file[laptop] | can we not get into a big argument of negative stuff tonight? |
| 04:31.22 | twisted | ZX81, or if i did, i was drunk and don't remember |
| 04:31.25 | morale | does the IAX protocol do its own routing? say I am connected to an asterisk IAX peer which is halfway around the world and I call a number which is a known extension of that server, Will it route properly? |
| 04:31.29 | dos000 | ZX81, yes .. the book does not mention advanced topics like ser+asterisk integration |
| 04:32.02 | twisted | dos000, so play with it and learn yourself ;) |
| 04:32.20 | twisted | dos000, or pay someone to teach you how |
| 04:32.21 | Qwell | dos000: the book *is* about asterisk... |
| 04:32.49 | dos000 | Qwell, mind you ser+asterisk is also about asterisk ... |
| 04:32.59 | Qwell | no, ser+asterisk is about ser+asterisk |
| 04:33.13 | brookshire | and ser is just a proxy anyways... |
| 04:33.26 | twisted | ser + asterisk rocks the house |
| 04:33.28 | ZX81 | dos000 ahh |
| 04:33.36 | dos000 | ZX81, i did not realize you wrote the book ! |
| 04:33.43 | ZX81 | I did not |
| 04:33.47 | ZX81 | lol |
| 04:33.58 | SkramX | http://www.voip-news-net.com/2005/10/japan_plans_voi.html - nice |
| 04:34.11 | ZX81 | the two guys from asteriskdocs and jim from the wiki did it' |
| 04:34.20 | ZX81 | file[laptop] ooh I lurve you now |
| 04:34.22 | SkramX | asterisk on a wifi sip phone would be sweeet! |
| 04:34.25 | ZX81 | I have no coffee |
| 04:34.27 | ZX81 | ahahahahaha |
| 04:34.30 | ZX81 | it just arrived |
| 04:34.32 | ZX81 | literally |
| 04:34.34 | twisted | lol |
| 04:34.37 | file[laptop] | I know. |
| 04:34.39 | file[laptop] | I'm psychic. |
| 04:34.42 | twisted | so there's some delay in the 'file' transfer |
| 04:34.51 | Qwell | SkramX: there are wifi sip phones |
| 04:35.00 | mcadory | zx81 what is the book title? am trying to learn me some asterisk |
| 04:35.10 | Qwell | mcadory: Asterisk: The Future of Telephony |
| 04:35.18 | mcadory | thnaks |
| 04:35.18 | Qwell | very good book...go buy it |
| 04:35.21 | *** join/#asterisk Miggidy (n=Miggidy@m3d0f36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 04:35.24 | ZX81 | mcadory download it then buy it |
| 04:35.26 | SkramX | Qwell: Yes.. but sooner or later someone will come out with a SIP phone that has a small kernel and teeny asterisk install. |
| 04:35.27 | file[laptop] | I love my copy |
| 04:35.27 | twisted | Miggidy, g'day mate |
| 04:35.32 | ZX81 | download here |
| 04:35.34 | SkramX | Its called EMBEDDED ASTERISK, Qwell |
| 04:35.35 | Qwell | SkramX: kinda pointless |
| 04:35.47 | ZX81 | http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=1044 |
| 04:35.55 | X-Rob | SkramX - waste of space. |
| 04:36.05 | X-Rob | why bother with stuff a phoen is _never_ going to use |
| 04:36.12 | ZX81 | SkramX see AstLinux |
| 04:36.17 | ZX81 | I have it running beside me |
| 04:36.18 | Qwell | SkramX: talk to Kristian Kielhofner, and get him to make a wifi version of his stuff |
| 04:36.19 | SkramX | X-Rob: that is your opinion |
| 04:36.25 | SkramX | ZX81: I have |
| 04:36.27 | ZX81 | on a 3 inch/3 inch box |
| 04:36.29 | file[laptop] | Kristian is cool man |
| 04:36.29 | ZX81 | oh |
| 04:36.30 | ZX81 | :) |
| 04:36.33 | X-Rob | put decent echo cancellation and BLF and handsfree and a good display, and run that on linux |
| 04:36.34 | ZX81 | yep |
| 04:36.35 | X-Rob | and guess what you've got? |
| 04:36.35 | Qwell | file[laptop]: met him this week |
| 04:36.37 | ZX81 | Kris da man |
| 04:36.41 | X-Rob | You've got a Snom320/Snom360 |
| 04:36.41 | ZX81 | kewl |
| 04:36.44 | twisted | kristian is awesome |
| 04:36.50 | SkramX | Yeapps |
| 04:36.59 | twisted | but he's loud :P |
| 04:37.02 | pauldy | I dinked with asterisk on the wrt54gs it didn't like it very much |
| 04:37.04 | ZX81 | I want him to cross compile for the gumstix |
| 04:37.14 | Qwell | file[laptop]: he actually had a booth there |
| 04:37.16 | ZX81 | the gumstix would rocjk |
| 04:37.17 | twisted | ZX81, he's got it running on gumstix |
| 04:37.23 | twisted | i saw it at the show |
| 04:37.25 | Qwell | yeah, he showed that off...was nice |
| 04:37.39 | ZX81 | NOOOOOOOO |
| 04:37.41 | ZX81 | OMG |
| 04:37.42 | Qwell | 64mb flash thing on it...but, astlinux fits in the builtin memory |
| 04:37.43 | twisted | YESSSSSSSS |
| 04:37.43 | ZX81 | REALLY?!?! |
| 04:37.45 | twisted | ZOMG |
| 04:37.47 | ZX81 | ZOMG |
| 04:37.49 | ZX81 | !!1 |
| 04:37.50 | ZX81 | lol |
| 04:37.54 | file[laptop] | @$%^@$%^$%^ PANIC! |
| 04:37.54 | ZX81 | wow |
| 04:37.56 | ZX81 | brb |
| 04:38.02 | ZX81 | this is so huge man |
| 04:38.04 | ZX81 | well |
| 04:38.04 | twisted | the biggest part of it was the CF card |
| 04:38.06 | ZX81 | kinda tiny |
| 04:38.06 | ZX81 | lol |
| 04:38.08 | ZX81 | but |
| 04:38.10 | ZX81 | :) |
| 04:38.11 | Qwell | and the CF wasn't even needed... |
| 04:38.16 | ZX81 | man oh man |
| 04:38.20 | Qwell | he was saying he only put it there to store sounds and firmware and such |
| 04:38.20 | twisted | Qwell, gotta boot the image from somewhere :P |
| 04:38.22 | ZX81 | I shoulda come to Astricon |
| 04:38.23 | X-Rob | pauldy - works fine on the WRT as long as you dont' want it to do any floating point |
| 04:38.25 | Qwell | twisted: its got builtin flash |
| 04:38.28 | twisted | Qwell, oh yea |
| 04:38.32 | Qwell | like 8mb or so |
| 04:38.38 | twisted | that's right |
| 04:38.42 | twisted | because he got the image down to 7 megs |
| 04:38.43 | pauldy | X-Rob, or in my experience and heavy surfing |
| 04:38.45 | twisted | so he had a meg to spare |
| 04:38.46 | Qwell | yeah |
| 04:38.47 | Faithful | can I redirect an incoming ISDN call without actually answering the call... ie at network level? |
| 04:38.58 | Qwell | he said |
| 04:39.06 | ZX81 | brb |
| 04:39.12 | pauldy | I like that gumstix thing how much gpio those things have |
| 04:39.14 | twisted | ZX81 is going to cream his coffee |
| 04:39.14 | Qwell | "Man, I didn't even need to add it "*laugh*" but I had a bunch laying around, so I figured 'screw it!' " |
| 04:39.17 | twisted | :P |
| 04:39.57 | Qwell | just wrap a keypad/phone looking case around it or something |
| 04:40.08 | twisted | nah |
| 04:40.15 | twisted | put it in a wrigleys wrapper |
| 04:40.19 | Qwell | hell...Mark could probably put one in his rotary phone, and make it run * |
| 04:40.31 | Qwell | (it was rotary, right?) |
| 04:40.36 | twisted | yeah |
| 04:41.05 | twisted | i have a black version of that phone |
| 04:41.08 | twisted | with an on/off switch |
| 04:41.09 | mcadory | thanks for the book. later |
| 04:41.12 | Qwell | heh |
| 04:41.12 | *** part/#asterisk mcadory (n=mcadory@208.149.64.28) |
| 04:41.14 | file[laptop] | rotary phones are the shiznit f00l |
| 04:41.16 | X-Rob | pauldy - depends how you set it up. If you're using a pair of WRT's, don't set them up to bridge. That's very CPU intensive. If you have them routing, you don't seem to run out of CPU |
| 04:41.16 | Qwell | twisted: people sell them or something? |
| 04:41.18 | file[laptop] | oh god |
| 04:41.21 | file[laptop] | I'll never say that again |
| 04:41.29 | twisted | Qwell, uh yeah |
| 04:41.31 | twisted | duh |
| 04:41.32 | twisted | :P |
| 04:41.35 | Qwell | link? :P |
| 04:41.42 | *** join/#asterisk Tjief (n=Tjief@r0x0r.dk) |
| 04:41.46 | twisted | you can still (believe it or not) buy rotary phones from places like greybar |
| 04:42.10 | Qwell | I mean modded for wifi, heh |
| 04:42.18 | twisted | oh no |
| 04:42.22 | twisted | you have to do that yourself ;) |
| 04:42.24 | Qwell | why the hell would I buy a normal ass rotary phone? ;] |
| 04:42.33 | twisted | Qwell, same reason I did |
| 04:42.35 | twisted | to play with |
| 04:42.42 | twisted | did you know the iaxy will convert rotary pulses to DTMF? |
| 04:42.46 | twisted | and so will zaptel :) |
| 04:42.53 | Qwell | yeah |
| 04:43.05 | pauldy | X-Rob, I have them in a wi-fi bridge right now only way I can get to my garage rack ithout drilling holes in my apt. |
| 04:43.16 | twisted | I'm goign to have to change my IVr |
| 04:43.30 | twisted | "If you're calling from a rotary phone, that's fine, just dial the number" |
| 04:43.38 | dos000 | twisted, ouch .. is rotary still supported even ? |
| 04:43.44 | twisted | dos000, uhhh, yes. |
| 04:43.53 | Qwell | a lot of phones still do pulse dialing, for whatever the hell reason |
| 04:44.10 | twisted | Qwell, because 99% of the switches out there still support it |
| 04:44.41 | pauldy | I am using wds and three routers to connect various point in my apt that I can't exactly run wires to |
| 04:44.42 | Qwell | real men send their own pulses |
| 04:44.50 | twisted | i can dial in rotary pulses by hand |
| 04:44.52 | twisted | it's funny |
| 04:44.56 | Qwell | its easy, heh |
| 04:44.59 | twisted | that too |
| 04:45.21 | twisted | pauldy, isn't that a bit excessive? |
| 04:45.24 | file[laptop] | you need to whistle DTMF tones next |
| 04:45.28 | dos000 | twisted, is north american different pulse than other parts of the world ? i am wondering wich ones are supported |
| 04:45.39 | pauldy | reading about those gumstix now I wish I knew about them back when I did my senior project all I had then was a tiny board from dallas semi |
| 04:45.40 | twisted | pauldy, one AP should be enough to cover an apartment unless they made the walls out of steel |
| 04:45.52 | twisted | dos000, good question. I don't think so though |
| 04:46.11 | pauldy | twisted using wds to bridge the wireless routers to make ethernet available in those areas not just wi-fi |
| 04:46.29 | twisted | pauldy, i do that with something called a wireless bridge ;) |
| 04:46.59 | pauldy | twisted, I would have but at 40 bucks for the routers it was cheaper at the time that the brodges |
| 04:47.03 | twisted | ahh yes |
| 04:47.08 | Qwell | file[laptop]: we had you (and IRC) up on a wall, projected |
| 04:47.12 | Qwell | in the dev meeting |
| 04:47.17 | file[laptop] | I know. |
| 04:47.20 | twisted | file[laptop], this is true |
| 04:47.28 | twisted | and apparently my name was up on the wall in the keynote |
| 04:47.30 | twisted | and i missed it :( |
| 04:49.03 | twisted | dude, the TSA in LAX actually let me watch them inspect my baggage |
| 04:50.01 | twisted | and he told me what kind of bombs will not make the swab change colors |
| 04:50.08 | twisted | which I thought was pretty insecure of them to do |
| 04:50.08 | Qwell | umm |
| 04:50.15 | file[laptop] | nice. |
| 04:50.18 | Qwell | you could get that from a quick google, but still |
| 04:50.22 | Qwell | they totally shouldn't do that |
| 04:50.28 | twisted | yeah, i know i could, but shit |
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| 04:50.48 | twisted | their idea of inspecting my baggage was running the swab around it, and taking a glance at the inside |
| 04:51.00 | michael_fc4linux | aahhhhhh! I want to set all these damn asterisk docs on fire! Except their digital..... |
| 04:51.12 | Qwell | michael_fc4linux: buy the book...burn it |
| 04:51.17 | michael_fc4linux | lol |
| 04:51.17 | Qwell | problem solved |
| 04:51.20 | file[laptop] | these are strangely nice quality |
| 04:51.26 | twisted | file[laptop], scary, isn't it? |
| 04:51.28 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 04:51.29 | twisted | file[laptop], i like it though |
| 04:52.54 | file[laptop] | I wouldn't pay that price for 'em though, not one for music videos on my computer |
| 04:53.22 | *** join/#asterisk iceyp (n=icepick@jail.unix.co.nz) |
| 04:53.28 | twisted | bill maher is such a douche |
| 04:53.56 | file[laptop] | twisted: and the school mascot is... a giant douche! |
| 04:54.18 | twisted | file[laptop], heh |
| 04:54.27 | twisted | i'm gonna watch "Spanking the Monkey' |
| 04:54.29 | twisted | bbl |
| 04:54.34 | iceyp | hey guys.... i've got an IVR where people insert a 1 for support, 2 for sales, 3 for oncall tech or enter the extension of the user you wish to call.... how can I take the input'ed extension number and get it to call someone in my 'local' context? |
| 04:54.49 | file[laptop] | iceyp: background |
| 04:55.00 | iceyp | file[laptop] doing that |
| 04:55.13 | file[laptop] | it checks against extensions in 'da context you're in |
| 04:55.15 | twisted | nono |
| 04:55.20 | twisted | include => local |
| 04:55.26 | twisted | NOW |
| 04:55.27 | twisted | bbl. |
| 04:55.31 | iceyp | just if i enter 4444 (an extension number) as soon as I put first digit it says I'm sorry |
| 04:55.38 | iceyp | ok |
| 04:55.39 | iceyp | leme try that |
| 04:55.46 | file[laptop] | yeah, gotta include the other context |
| 04:55.53 | file[laptop] | or else it'll be like "what you talkin' about fool!" |
| 04:56.33 | iceyp | i have included it |
| 04:56.34 | iceyp | :/ |
| 04:56.48 | twisted | russell simmons is such a white man trapped in a black man's body |
| 04:57.03 | docelm0 | http://astri2005.netdr.biz/bigpicture.php?orderby=photo_name&skip=41&roll_id=1004 |
| 04:57.06 | *** join/#asterisk mcadory (n=mcadory@208.149.64.28) |
| 04:57.06 | docelm0 | check that out |
| 04:57.28 | twisted | docelm0, phpgallery != gallery |
| 04:57.34 | twisted | docelm0, this script sucks |
| 04:57.44 | docelm0 | I knwo this.. I installed gallery its having issues with some of the photos |
| 04:58.12 | twisted | whoa |
| 04:58.14 | twisted | i guess I could clarify |
| 04:58.16 | file[laptop] | I'm just gotta to not read that away message |
| 04:58.17 | twisted | i guess I could clarify <-- movie |
| 04:58.20 | file[laptop] | er going to |
| 04:58.39 | Qwell | twisted: what movie? |
| 04:58.50 | twisted | spanking the monkey |
| 04:58.55 | Qwell | yeah, but what movie? |
| 04:59.01 | file[laptop] | I'm seeing things... |
| 04:59.03 | twisted | tha's the title, dimwit |
| 04:59.04 | twisted | :P |
| 04:59.05 | iceyp | ok i think i got it working |
| 04:59.11 | file[laptop] | I could have swore something just crawled across my keyboard |
| 05:00.30 | twisted | Qwell, http://imdb.com/title/tt0111252/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9c3BhbmtpbmcgdGhlIG1vbmtleXxmdD0xfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxjbz0xfGh0bWw9MXxubT0x;fc=1;ft=21 |
| 05:01.54 | pauldy | right kill your father have sex with your mother movie |
| 05:05.49 | *** join/#asterisk xtr (n=01928375@S01060012174cc0e1.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 05:12.39 | Qwell | fuck California |
| 05:12.47 | Qwell | it only rains here but twice a year... |
| 05:13.01 | Qwell | I moved into my new apt in Jan...its raining |
| 05:13.06 | Qwell | I'm getting ready to move tomorrow... |
| 05:13.08 | Qwell | ITS RAINING |
| 05:13.11 | Qwell | What gives? |
| 05:18.47 | pauldy | meh just fence california in |
| 05:19.02 | X-Rob | isn't california going to seceed or soemthing? |
| 05:19.13 | Qwell | X-Rob: You're thinking Ontario Canada. :p |
| 05:19.16 | cybertank | I say make it an island. :) |
| 05:19.38 | Corydon76-home | or Quebec |
| 05:19.40 | Qwell | cybertank: just wait... |
| 05:19.45 | Qwell | duh...wtf, Ontario? |
| 05:19.52 | Qwell | yes, Quebec :p |
| 05:20.27 | Qwell | X-Rob: There was some talk about splitting North and South CA though |
| 05:20.34 | Qwell | no clue what happened to that |
| 05:20.58 | X-Rob | Oooh |
| 05:21.05 | loud | they were considering giving it back to mexico :> |
| 05:21.06 | X-Rob | shit. This new GXP-2000 firmware has _good_ handsfree! |
| 05:21.07 | cybertank | What... call one half Arnold-ville? |
| 05:21.13 | X-Rob | like, really, really, REALLY good hands free |
| 05:21.21 | X-Rob | not crappy _at all_ |
| 05:21.40 | X-Rob | still a bit quiet, but it's 100% full duplex. |
| 05:21.43 | Qwell | docelm0: You need a better mirror or something |
| 05:22.27 | pauldy | X-Rob, you using the .12 release or a new beta |
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| 05:25.42 | FuriousGeorge | hi all |
| 05:27.33 | FuriousGeorge | so ive been reading up on this dundi. is this essentially a way for voip service providers to share bandwidth pro bono in an effort to lower costs? |
| 05:32.14 | *** join/#asterisk copantl (n=copantl@205.240.200.104) |
| 05:32.32 | copantl | help |
| 05:33.50 | copantl | i'm trieng to connect 2 asterisk between them via iax2 trunk |
| 05:35.37 | copantl | but the iax show registry shows this: xx.xx.xx.xx:4569 slave <Unregistered> 60 Rejected |
| 05:35.48 | copantl | any idea? |
| 05:37.10 | FuriousGeorge | copantl: its quiete in here today, and ive never tried trunking |
| 05:37.40 | pauldy | copantl, are you using amp? |
| 05:38.32 | copantl | yes |
| 05:38.44 | copantl | asterisk@home |
| 05:39.13 | pauldy | http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=26418&group_id=121515 |
| 05:39.19 | pauldy | I sued it and everything worked |
| 05:39.31 | pauldy | the blank c lines need to be the context your defining them for |
| 05:39.48 | pauldy | when I did my testing I did from-internal to make sure I could dial extensions correctly |
| 05:40.12 | copantl | ok thanks |
| 05:40.47 | pauldy | oh everything but the dial prefix thing |
| 05:40.51 | pauldy | ignore that one piece |
| 05:41.24 | pauldy | and setup an outbound route instead |
| 05:41.32 | pauldy | something like 7|XXX |
| 05:41.37 | copantl | ok |
| 05:41.46 | pauldy | shoudl allow you to dial remote extensions prefixed with 7 |
| 05:41.54 | copantl | ok |
| 05:44.23 | FuriousGeorge | pauldy: you know anything about this dundi? |
| 05:44.27 | pauldy | wonder how long before peopel build segway knockoffs using these gumstix |
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| 05:44.38 | pauldy | FuriousGeorge, nope |
| 05:44.45 | FuriousGeorge | pauldy: me niether :) |
| 05:44.53 | pauldy | something universal number discovery |
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| 05:45.06 | pauldy | thats aobut all I know on the subject |
| 05:45.16 | FuriousGeorge | actually i'm trying to think of a solution (workaround) to get sip presence working accross different servers |
| 05:45.50 | FuriousGeorge | i use 1.0.9 so dundi isnt even an option for now, afaik |
| 05:45.58 | copantl | not work |
| 05:46.13 | FuriousGeorge | copantl: ya gotta be more specifig |
| 05:46.19 | FuriousGeorge | specific* |
| 05:46.51 | copantl | sorry ... english is not my first language !!! :) |
| 05:48.40 | copantl | pauldy give me a configuration but i have the same error xx.xx.xx.xx:4569 slave <Unregistered> 60 Rejected |
| 05:49.36 | copantl | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.37 | pauldy | if you follow the guide and make the two changes I suggested it will work |
| 05:50.00 | *** join/#asterisk newmember (i=user@S010600036d1139fb.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 05:50.12 | pauldy | means the remote host did not authenticate you |
| 05:50.13 | copantl | i did it and i include the context from-internal |
| 05:50.41 | copantl | ok i gonna check |
| 05:51.25 | pauldy | gota make sure for hosta you have the user hostb and things like that |
| 05:52.49 | copantl | yeah ... is quite confiucing .. |
| 05:54.31 | pauldy | I need a bucket of gumstix to play with I bet you can do some neat stuff with them |
| 05:55.18 | pauldy | http://www.polymervision.com/assets/downloadablefile/PolymerVision-readius-in-hand-13016.jpg |
| 05:55.21 | pauldy | now that is neat |
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| 06:10.50 | perx0 | excuse, how i can force drop down my analog line, im working with a x100p but whe i making calls if the destiny not hangup the line is busy and block my line |
| 06:10.59 | perx0 | i need force hangup... |
| 06:11.21 | snitt | u need busydetect |
| 06:11.29 | perx0 | ok thanks :) |
| 06:11.37 | snitt | search for disconnect provision |
| 06:12.23 | n3u7 | i just installed asterisk on SuSE9.3 but i get the error Unable to open master device '/dev/zap/ctl |
| 06:12.36 | n3u7 | any ideas? |
| 06:13.04 | *** join/#asterisk crash3m (i=crash3m@unaffiliated/crash3m) |
| 06:13.11 | crash3m | why do I keep getting kicked out of here? |
| 06:14.11 | snitt | when was you kicked last time? |
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| 06:15.07 | crash3m | just after the last netsplit I guess, time stamp says 17:09 (no date) |
| 06:15.18 | iceyp | heya, anyone in the uk at the moment? |
| 06:15.34 | snitt | well, netsplit is a good chance to get kicked off |
| 06:16.09 | crash3m | right, but the message says * You have left channel #asterisk (requested by ChanServ: "Forbidden Channel") |
| 06:16.11 | snitt | 01:19 -!- crash3m [crash3m@crash3m.user] has quit [Remote closed the connection] |
| 06:16.43 | crash3m | oh, I bet its the 'must be registered' requirement thats doing it, |
| 06:17.01 | snitt | no |
| 06:17.08 | snitt | it was when everybody was kicked out |
| 06:17.18 | snitt | chanserv went mad |
| 06:17.31 | snitt | [00:09:40] -!- mode/#asterisk [-oo xheliox crash3m__] by ChanServ |
| 06:17.39 | iceyp | Anyone with fwd, please can you lookup my fwd number for me in the whitepages, Barry Murphy from new zealand |
| 06:17.40 | damned | morning all |
| 06:17.57 | iceyp | need to login to look at it and i cant member my login :/ |
| 06:18.00 | crash3m | I was oped? |
| 06:19.08 | snitt | no |
| 06:19.13 | brookshire | nah.. it probably just deops you by default |
| 06:19.15 | snitt | nobody was oped that time |
| 06:19.38 | brookshire | probably part of their netsplit protection mechanism |
| 06:19.50 | snitt | iceyp: Barry Murphy 265744 New Zealand |
| 06:19.53 | brookshire | so people can't ride a netsplit and deop all the ops and take over a channel |
| 06:20.03 | brookshire | which is kinda pointless on freenode anyways |
| 06:20.23 | iceyp | thanks snitt |
| 06:20.34 | snitt | brookshire: after a while, chanserv was shut down |
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| 06:22.18 | brookshire | oh well :/ |
| 06:22.34 | brookshire | i think freenode was upgrading their software |
| 06:23.46 | FuriousGeorge | there arent that many issues in the asterisk 1.2 bug reports. i guess its pretty close to being stable, huh? |
| 06:24.09 | brookshire | mmmhmm :) |
| 06:24.44 | brookshire | i wonder if beta 2 will come first |
| 06:24.51 | brookshire | or if it will go straight to stable |
| 06:25.11 | FuriousGeorge | i was wondering that too |
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| 06:27.03 | FuriousGeorge | speaking of 1.2, anyone know if dundi could be used to make asterisk presence aware of the availability of another servers peers? |
| 06:27.17 | FuriousGeorge | or is that gonna be a job for the AGI |
| 06:27.18 | FuriousGeorge | ? |
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| 06:50.30 | n3u7 | hi |
| 06:50.41 | n3u7 | I'm getting:FATAL: Error running install command for wcfxo |
| 06:50.49 | n3u7 | any ideas |
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| 06:53.07 | fishboy1669 | morning |
| 06:58.43 | brookshire | n3u7: run dmesg |
| 06:58.55 | brookshire | display the error please |
| 06:59.04 | brookshire | should be the last line |
| 06:59.19 | X-Rob | wcfxo is for X100's isn't it? |
| 06:59.32 | brookshire | and tdm cards ;) |
| 06:59.33 | L|NUX | it is |
| 06:59.34 | L|NUX | :) |
| 06:59.38 | brookshire | i think |
| 06:59.44 | pauldy | all digium cards with an fxo port right |
| 06:59.55 | X-Rob | wctdm/wcfxs is for tdm cards |
| 07:00.22 | brookshire | wctdm is linked to wcfxo |
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| 07:00.26 | brookshire | if i'm not mistaken |
| 07:00.59 | X-Rob | wcfxs is linked to wctdm |
| 07:01.05 | X-Rob | there is no wcfxs any more |
| 07:01.11 | brookshire | ahh.. ok |
| 07:01.21 | X-Rob | which is why I think wcfxo is for X100 cards |
| 07:02.01 | X-Rob | n3u7 - the point behind this discussion is, if you don't have a X100P card, you can't load wcfxo. |
| 07:03.15 | brookshire | nah.. if he does have it |
| 07:03.33 | brookshire | that fatal is probably happening because he compiled it with the wrong version of gcc |
| 07:04.13 | brookshire | or the kernel versions don't match |
| 07:04.15 | brookshire | etc |
| 07:04.33 | brookshire | i think a module will load even if there is no hardware |
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| 07:08.06 | X-Rob | no, it won't. |
| 07:08.31 | X-Rob | wups |
| 07:08.36 | X-Rob | yes it will |
| 07:08.57 | crash3m | heh |
| 07:08.59 | X-Rob | zaptel 206724 14 wcfxo,wctdm |
| 07:09.01 | X-Rob | there ya go. |
| 07:09.10 | X-Rob | (lsmod output) |
| 07:09.17 | brookshire | heh |
| 07:09.18 | brookshire | :D |
| 07:10.57 | brookshire | z0mg |
| 07:11.05 | brookshire | it's been two days and i'm still installing |
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| 07:13.54 | bsdfreak | hi |
| 07:14.23 | brookshire | hey |
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| 07:14.40 | bsdfreak | anyone have info on running asterisk behind nat with a client on the other side? |
| 07:14.57 | pauldy | hrm didn't realize that upgrading a kernel will absolutly break the hell outa meetme for asterisk if you don't redo the kernel modules for the zap dummy interface |
| 07:15.19 | X-Rob | bsdfreak - http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=asterisk+nat+site%3Avoip-info.org |
| 07:15.25 | X-Rob | go mad. |
| 07:15.29 | bsdfreak | heh |
| 07:15.32 | pauldy | bsdfreak, all kinds of info on www.voip-info.org |
| 07:15.37 | pauldy | doh |
| 07:15.38 | bsdfreak | i've checked there |
| 07:16.01 | pauldy | its there what kind of client is connecting to asterisk |
| 07:16.09 | bsdfreak | what i'm trying to do is get sjphone on a windows mobile handheld working with asterisk.. so far it's okay except it can't transmit audio.. which is a nat-related issue i've read |
| 07:16.44 | X-Rob | forward any UDP port above 1000 to your asterisk box |
| 07:16.48 | X-Rob | on your nat |
| 07:16.50 | bsdfreak | i've tried |
| 07:16.58 | pauldy | bsdfreak, may be transcoding issue |
| 07:18.36 | bsdfreak | pauldy: you think i'd be able to hear fine but not talk because of that? |
| 07:19.00 | bsdfreak | cuz when i examine the traffic |
| 07:19.19 | bsdfreak | asterisk is sending data to the handheld fine.. but the handheld evidently isn't sending back.. which i presume is because of nat |
| 07:19.31 | bsdfreak | and i've tried port forwarding.. even one-to-one NAT |
| 07:19.40 | bsdfreak | i know there's something simple i'm missing |
| 07:19.55 | X-Rob | if you're not receiving udp traffic in, then it's a NAT problem. |
| 07:20.01 | X-Rob | or it's a problem with the sjphone |
| 07:20.03 | bsdfreak | yeah that's what i had assumed |
| 07:20.08 | X-Rob | either way, look at the nat device |
| 07:20.18 | bsdfreak | well there's a page saying sjphone works with asterisk on voip-info |
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| 07:20.43 | pauldy | going to have to play with that on my e805 |
| 07:20.46 | without | hi all |
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| 07:22.02 | salaud | quick question: I can't seem to get # transfers or call parking to work. Is there something (besides putting tT options in Dial) that I missed? |
| 07:23.00 | salaud | I hit # while two SIP softphones are talking to each other and I don't get a "Transfer" prompt |
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| 07:27.01 | IOscanner | I get an error of invalid module format when loading zaptel, wcfxo or wcfxs modules |
| 07:27.19 | IOscanner | it seem to build fine, but it errors when loading modules |
| 07:27.21 | IOscanner | any ideas? |
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| 07:27.51 | puzzled | morning all |
| 07:28.00 | IOscanner | morning |
| 07:28.25 | IOscanner | I get an error of invalid module format when loading zaptel have you seen this puzzled? |
| 07:28.53 | brookshire | ioscanner: what does dmesg say |
| 07:29.02 | brookshire | run 'dmesg' and should be the last line |
| 07:29.17 | puzzled | IOscanner: nope but maybe you built it for an older kernel and are trying to load it with the newer kernel you are running right now? |
| 07:29.17 | IOscanner | disagrees about version of symbol struct_module |
| 07:29.31 | brookshire | can you post here? |
| 07:29.33 | brookshire | just one line |
| 07:30.09 | IOscanner | Izaptel:disagrees about version of symbol struct_module |
| 07:31.41 | brookshire | modinfo zaptel |
| 07:31.53 | brookshire | and uname -r |
| 07:31.58 | brookshire | see if they match |
| 07:33.26 | IOscanner | yep 2.6.12.3 |
| 07:33.46 | brookshire | is this debian? |
| 07:34.11 | IOscanner | yes, but kernel from kernel.org |
| 07:34.17 | brookshire | hmmm |
| 07:34.22 | brookshire | so you compiled your kernel? |
| 07:34.34 | IOscanner | debian does messed up kernels |
| 07:34.35 | IOscanner | yes |
| 07:34.43 | brookshire | i dunno then |
| 07:34.48 | brookshire | i know with debian |
| 07:34.51 | IOscanner | Same build as all the the other boxes |
| 07:34.54 | IOscanner | I have |
| 07:35.00 | brookshire | the kernel was build with gcc 4.0 |
| 07:35.04 | IOscanner | Just new build with CVS |
| 07:35.07 | IOscanner | no 3.3 |
| 07:35.08 | brookshire | so basically you have to upgrade to gcc 4.0 |
| 07:35.18 | brookshire | but i don't know what's wrong |
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| 07:35.28 | IOscanner | sams as the GCC version as the kernel build |
| 07:35.53 | brookshire | yeah... |
| 07:36.02 | twisted | lol |
| 07:36.09 | twisted | stupid ho at the gas station thought i was a firefighter |
| 07:36.15 | brookshire | twisted: lol |
| 07:36.24 | brookshire | I GOT PULLED OVER TONIGHT! |
| 07:36.27 | brookshire | they thought i was drunk |
| 07:36.28 | twisted | FINALLY! |
| 07:36.35 | twisted | lol |
| 07:36.42 | pauldy | holy cow thanks bsdfreak been looking for a working sip client for the PPC for a while |
| 07:36.52 | brookshire | i was like.. umm.. no nothing to drink tonight oliver |
| 07:36.59 | twisted | oliver. |
| 07:37.00 | twisted | hahaha |
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| 07:37.04 | brookshire | so they did the breathalizer on me |
| 07:37.08 | pauldy | that sjphone works really well and the setup was simpler than any sip phone I've ever setup |
| 07:37.10 | brookshire | 0.0 baby! |
| 07:37.15 | twisted | slacker. |
| 07:37.49 | twisted | it was funny tho |
| 07:37.57 | twisted | this ho was trying to buy liqour |
| 07:38.06 | twisted | getting all flirty with the cashier |
| 07:38.29 | twisted | then she thought if I asked *gasp* he would just do it |
| 07:38.32 | twisted | lol |
| 07:38.50 | puzzled | pauldy: got an url? |
| 07:38.54 | twisted | i just played along and was like "ma'am, he's just doing his job, like I need to get back and do mine" |
| 07:38.56 | puzzled | pauldy: for the3 ppc client |
| 07:39.22 | twisted | anywho.. i need to go to sleep |
| 07:39.26 | brookshire | lol |
| 07:39.28 | twisted | but i think my body is still on L.A. time |
| 07:39.38 | pauldy | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+phone+sjphone and http://www.sjlabs.com/ |
| 07:39.39 | brookshire | <3 huntsville municipalities |
| 07:39.52 | pauldy | the first is the config info and the second the url for the company |
| 07:39.56 | twisted | what's that mean brookshire ? |
| 07:40.05 | brookshire | i have no idea |
| 07:40.07 | puzzled | pauldy: thanks |
| 07:40.10 | pauldy | now my PDA is my new Wi-Fi phone extension |
| 07:40.14 | brookshire | :D |
| 07:40.27 | brookshire | well.. ni ni firefighter josh ;) |
| 07:40.30 | twisted | rofl |
| 07:40.40 | twisted | i know how to handle my hos(e) |
| 07:41.44 | pauldy | bsdfreak, I can assure you now it is a NAT problem |
| 07:41.51 | pauldy | did you get it working? |
| 07:42.17 | puzzled | pauldy: too bad the ppc sjphone is only for pocketpc. was hoping they had somethng for ibm pseries powerpc |
| 07:43.05 | bsdfreak | not yet |
| 07:43.10 | bsdfreak | reading |
| 07:43.19 | pauldy | ahh well it looks like they are porting to other platforms |
| 07:43.34 | pauldy | they have linux windows mac os and pocket pc |
| 07:44.03 | puzzled | good choice already. but I want more choice :) |
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| 07:55.42 | L|NUX | hey can some one tell me how can i reset Sipura SPA2000 Password ? |
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| 07:58.25 | n3u7 | wow |
| 07:58.34 | n3u7 | this is impossible to install |
| 07:58.54 | pauldy | now I just need to setup my sip port forward so I can register from the local coffee house |
| 07:59.40 | pauldy | or vpn that would work |
| 08:02.28 | e-Hernick | Okay. |
| 08:02.51 | e-Hernick | After much thinking, I have come to the conclusion that Jack support, while good, is not as important as multiple ALSA channels. |
| 08:03.17 | e-Hernick | pauldy, you have convinced me. |
| 08:07.33 | bsdfreak | heh |
| 08:07.44 | tzafrir_laptop | pauldy, openvpn? |
| 08:08.11 | e-Hernick | How hard would it be to implement support for multiple ALSA channels ? |
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| 08:13.14 | pauldy | e-Hernick, should be rather trivial |
| 08:14.00 | pauldy | tzafrir_laptop, vpn server is on the wrt54g I think they use something similar to that or poptop |
| 08:14.34 | e-Hernick | Are there any limitations to console channels that would prevent somebody from building a usable softphone out of a console ALSA channel and the asterisk manager interface ? |
| 08:15.10 | pauldy | e-Hernick, the framework is in place for the configuration of multiple devices so all the would nee to be configured is the alsa diver to pull those device nodes and set them up ass appropriate |
| 08:16.15 | pauldy | e-Hernick, my knowledge of the way that is supposed to work no there aren't any inherent limittions just the implimentation |
| 08:16.27 | e-Hernick | Cause I found the alsa-jack-plugin which enables alsa-aware software to be routed to a virtual sound card that speaks to Jack |
| 08:18.31 | pauldy | thats what Iw as looking at earlier made more sense to take what is already there and move it to something that is a standard rigth now until jack comes of age |
| 08:18.34 | e-Hernick | I believe that right now, with the alsa-jack-plugin and Jack, Asterisk could talk to Jack - and thus I could build an audio processing path that would result in a softphone with excellent sound processing capabilities, far beyond those of normal softphones. |
| 08:19.02 | e-Hernick | Yes, I agree. While the goal remains interfacing with Jack, that can be done through the alsa interface and virtual sound cards. |
| 08:19.48 | pauldy | true but theory != practical application |
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| 08:19.57 | e-Hernick | Now, can an ALSA console softphone be controlled well through the manager interface / |
| 08:20.14 | pauldy | and the source is available for hacking on a module for the alsa stuff which wshould be fairly easy for anyone to hack out |
| 08:20.39 | pauldy | if the same interface is implimented it becomes and extension so in theory yes |
| 08:20.50 | pauldy | don;t know if there are any hardwwired paths however |
| 08:21.06 | pauldy | in the asterisk code itself I don't think there is |
| 08:21.28 | pauldy | if there isn't then as I said before it should be a rather trivial excersize |
| 08:21.47 | e-Hernick | It's an extension, but it can't dial in a normal fashion. |
| 08:22.02 | e-Hernick | But I figure that it can be connected anywhere through the manager interface |
| 08:22.25 | e-Hernick | Though I wonder, how to send DTMF from the console channel ? |
| 08:22.27 | pauldy | it should be able to dial just fine if you have a dtmf generator |
| 08:22.44 | e-Hernick | Yeah, it would be very easy to use a Jack tone generator and mix its output with the microphone |
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| 08:22.51 | pauldy | just pipe dtmf through the audio in |
| 08:22.51 | e-Hernick | but inband DTMF sucks |
| 08:23.16 | e-Hernick | Can DTMF be sent another way, without generating tones ? |
| 08:23.18 | pauldy | it does when you have it running over a network conenction |
| 08:23.32 | pauldy | not that I know of for console |
| 08:23.44 | e-Hernick | I figure it wouldn't be too hard to implement through the manager interface though. |
| 08:24.36 | pauldy | no and I'm sure multiple audio channels would be useful for people setting up zoned paging and the like |
| 08:24.49 | e-Hernick | Or multiple softphones running off the same machine. |
| 08:25.08 | e-Hernick | Think about it, you can put a big sound card in an asterisk box and have it run 10 softphones. |
| 08:25.30 | pauldy | thats not as attractive as using a softphone on a computer |
| 08:25.44 | pauldy | and things already exist to do that |
| 08:26.03 | e-Hernick | I'm not so sure about that. Each client computer can have a remote UI to the central softphone computer. |
| 08:26.12 | pauldy | the real world application for multiple sounds card interfaces would be for zoned paging which is used on other pbx systems |
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| 08:26.46 | e-Hernick | It's not the only realworld application. There are good reasons to consider running a softphone server rather than having softphones on each computer. |
| 08:27.01 | e-Hernick | Sure, hardphones and individual softphones have their uses, but so do softphone servers. |
| 08:27.09 | pauldy | and I am very sure that if you have to have a computer to control the ui you would be better off using a softphone on the computer and setting it up as an extension |
| 08:27.40 | e-Hernick | Not in every case, so. |
| 08:28.20 | pauldy | if your going down that road why not just use a channel bank and run phones to each user rather than trying to do a sound card |
| 08:28.24 | e-Hernick | Let's consider a conference room with no computer. Or a shared phone. Or the phone on the desk of somebody who doesn't have a computer. Or who has a weak terminal that cannot run a softphone. |
| 08:28.39 | e-Hernick | Why not use a channel bank ? |
| 08:28.59 | brookshire | for paging, why not have the phones autoanswer? |
| 08:29.19 | e-Hernick | Well, let's see. A softphone server has far greater possibilities. |
| 08:29.25 | pauldy | brookshire, not everyone is using softphones with asterisk |
| 08:29.28 | e-Hernick | First, it has ten times the audio quality of a channel bank. |
| 08:29.32 | brookshire | doesn't matter |
| 08:29.37 | brookshire | works with hardphones too ;) |
| 08:29.38 | pauldy | but I would agree in a pure ip phone based setup |
| 08:29.50 | brookshire | maybe not work for analog phones |
| 08:30.05 | e-Hernick | Now, you say it doesn't matter, but you're wrong. Let's say that in 16 months, Asterisk finally upgrades to wideband codecs. Well then, massive sound quality boost. |
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| 08:30.20 | pauldy | e-Hernick, is trying hard to make a case for using a sound card as a phone |
| 08:30.33 | e-Hernick | But there's a reason right now. A softphone server can run DSP on every sound channel, and this is going to boost sound quality even if it goes through a 8khz path. |
| 08:30.55 | brookshire | softphones are great for integrating call centers |
| 08:31.04 | e-Hernick | I'm also thinking that a softphone server can be very competitive, price-wise. |
| 08:31.13 | brookshire | you can write the phone around your database software |
| 08:31.35 | pauldy | brookshire, when he says softphone he means using a soundcard to emulate a phone for multiple phones use multiple sound cards in a single pc |
| 08:31.48 | e-Hernick | Yes, and softphones are also appropriate for more than call centers. What if you put a headset and a USB keypad on every desk instead of a phone ? |
| 08:32.01 | brookshire | yeah.. |
| 08:32.09 | e-Hernick | When the user needs a complete UI, he has it on the computer. For all other uses, he has a keypad. |
| 08:32.18 | brookshire | because more than likely call centers will use headsets |
| 08:32.24 | brookshire | anyways |
| 08:32.34 | pauldy | e-Hernick, you can already do that with a voip phone |
| 08:32.48 | e-Hernick | Now, the greatest strength of the softphone server is of course the audio path which is of far higher quality than any 8khz device. |
| 08:33.16 | e-Hernick | As I said, it matter even today because of the DSP. If you run a DSP on a 8khz signal, you're going to get a much worse result than if you run a DSP on a better signal. |
| 08:33.24 | e-Hernick | Even if you're downsampling afterwards. |
| 08:33.29 | brookshire | but asterisk itself does not support hight quality audio.. unless it's sip2sip and not passing through asterisk |
| 08:33.35 | e-Hernick | It doesn't today. |
| 08:33.45 | e-Hernick | But soon it will. And if it doesn't, other software will support it. |
| 08:34.14 | pauldy | e-Hernick, even when it does using a sip phone client on the remote machien would still be the preffered method |
| 08:34.18 | e-Hernick | Today, a softphone server cannot use its true power; it is a high-definition audio communication system that in the future will be able to use wideband codecs. |
| 08:34.23 | pauldy | or using a pure ip phone |
| 08:34.36 | e-Hernick | Well, there's not always a remote machine. |
| 08:34.54 | e-Hernick | And DSP requires a lot of processing power. |
| 08:34.55 | pauldy | thus the pure ip phone |
| 08:35.07 | pauldy | ip phones use a built in dsp |
| 08:35.18 | brookshire | some sound cards have built in dsp |
| 08:35.20 | e-Hernick | There are no pure ip phones that can offer what a softphone server can. |
| 08:35.45 | brookshire | hehe |
| 08:35.47 | brookshire | not yet! |
| 08:35.50 | e-Hernick | Okay. I'm talking about software DSP here. Which is upgradable. Which is more powerful and flexible. |
| 08:36.03 | e-Hernick | Not yet. But nearly all the components are in place to build one. |
| 08:36.10 | e-Hernick | Which will be based on asterisk. |
| 08:36.42 | e-Hernick | Hey, if you still see it as a server connected with ugly wiring, you lack imagination. |
| 08:36.57 | brookshire | to a sound card? |
| 08:37.03 | pauldy | no I just have common sense |
| 08:37.14 | e-Hernick | Think about a cute little box in which you plug 4 headsets and 4 keypads, power and ethernet. It boots asterisk and runs four softphones with DSP. |
| 08:37.30 | brookshire | i see what you're getting at |
| 08:37.46 | e-Hernick | It has no hard drive... |
| 08:38.05 | e-Hernick | It's a softphone, yes, but you can see it as a hardphone from a management standpoint. |
| 08:38.16 | pauldy | http://www.gumstix.com/ |
| 08:38.29 | e-Hernick | Yeah, sure, that's a possible platform. |
| 08:38.51 | e-Hernick | But you've got choice. You can build the hardphone with any hardware you'd like. |
| 08:38.56 | brookshire | hmm |
| 08:39.03 | brookshire | that would be an expensive hardphone |
| 08:39.10 | e-Hernick | How many ports do you need, how much processing power ? Scale it accordingly. |
| 08:39.14 | pauldy | or how about a cheap old http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?products_id=39 |
| 08:39.33 | e-Hernick | Because of all the reasons I cited above. |
| 08:39.40 | e-Hernick | The sound quality is far higher. |
| 08:39.45 | brookshire | yeah.. i don't think you can beat that |
| 08:39.46 | e-Hernick | The DSP is far better and far more flexible. |
| 08:39.47 | brookshire | price |
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| 08:40.21 | e-Hernick | No, I can't beat the price. But I can beat everything else. |
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| 08:41.04 | rvhi | i am trying to use 'daemon' to start *, but can't pass any options to * |
| 08:41.21 | rvhi | daemon asterisk -vvvg got an error |
| 08:41.25 | pauldy | rvhi, why would you use deamon |
| 08:41.31 | e-Hernick | And how expensive would it be anyway ? How much does a computer without a hard drive or CDrom cost nowadays ? |
| 08:41.36 | pauldy | asterisk will deamonize itself automagically |
| 08:41.39 | rvhi | asterisk wont' start background |
| 08:41.40 | e-Hernick | not much, really. |
| 08:41.51 | rvhi | only foreground |
| 08:41.57 | brookshire | is this cvs head? |
| 08:42.03 | pauldy | huh???? |
| 08:42.06 | rvhi | stable |
| 08:42.51 | pauldy | rvhi, only way it isn't supposed to fork is if you run asterisk -c |
| 08:43.58 | rvhi | it won't start background, also according to http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+options, you need daemon |
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| 08:48.27 | Rowter | there is any queue sounds in spanish anywhere? |
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| 08:49.01 | e-Hernick | Okay, I just priced an AMD 1.7GHz with 256MB RAM, 256MB flash, 4 SBLive cards, 4 USB keypads, 4 good plantronics headsets, 4 pairs of altec lansing speakers and a computer case. Price: 550$ |
| 08:49.15 | snitt | lol. |
| 08:49.26 | e-Hernick | That's 140$ per channel. |
| 08:49.34 | snitt | and 100W per channel |
| 08:49.48 | pauldy | and going to cause some interrupt problems |
| 08:49.51 | e-Hernick | Which is right in line with much more expensive phones. |
| 08:49.58 | e-Hernick | Actually, we're talking about 3W RMS speakers |
| 08:50.12 | pauldy | 3W rMS? |
| 08:50.18 | snitt | e-Hernick: actually im talking about the box |
| 08:50.44 | pauldy | how do you compute wattage as an RMS value? |
| 08:51.00 | e-Hernick | I don't. |
| 08:51.06 | e-Hernick | Audio companies do. |
| 08:51.34 | pauldy | RMS is used to compute an average value for voltage |
| 08:51.45 | pauldy | never heard of it used to describe wattage |
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| 08:51.49 | brookshire | e-Hernick: don't forget to add your profit ;) |
| 08:51.51 | e-Hernick | snitt, I figure the power draw is below 120W for the system. So we're talking about 30W per phone. |
| 08:51.53 | snitt | well, never mind. it was a nice try. |
| 08:52.07 | e-Hernick | My profit ? |
| 08:52.12 | e-Hernick | We're talking about open source here. |
| 08:52.21 | e-Hernick | Anybody could build such softphone servers. |
| 08:52.23 | snitt | e-Hernick: okay, you're right. that is more than 2,5 kWh per day |
| 08:52.47 | pauldy | what the hell is this module? pbx_wilcalu |
| 08:53.09 | e-Hernick | If you get gouged for your electricity and you pay 0.10$/kWh, that means over 90$ per year in the worst case scenario ! |
| 08:53.28 | e-Hernick | But to be honest, I think that the actual power consumption will be much lower. |
| 08:53.52 | snitt | yeah, the CPU would not run at 100% load |
| 08:54.13 | e-Hernick | And you could scale the CPU frequency when not at full load |
| 08:54.17 | snitt | and it uses much less power when idle |
| 08:54.25 | e-Hernick | there is no hard drive either |
| 08:55.15 | e-Hernick | Power usage is not such a big consideration, I think. |
| 08:55.50 | e-Hernick | It is certainly possible to drive the cost even lower, too. |
| 08:56.05 | e-Hernick | The point is, this is flexible. |
| 08:56.25 | e-Hernick | Given a distribution like A@H that would include such softphone server capabilities.. |
| 08:56.29 | *** join/#asterisk stees (n=stees@shasta.narnian.org) |
| 08:57.13 | pauldy | e-Hernick, when was the last time you priced electricity? |
| 08:57.31 | e-Hernick | Well, I suppose it doesn't matter as much here. |
| 08:57.39 | stees | Hello all, I was wondering if anyone had any experience with using the AVM B1 card with Asterisk? |
| 08:57.57 | *** join/#asterisk case__ (n=case@mailhost.seeft.com) |
| 08:58.04 | case__ | hello |
| 08:58.09 | e-Hernick | In French-Canada, we possess national hydroelectric power generation capabilities far beyond the scope of your imagination. We are a major power exporter, and we pay around 0.035$ per kWh. |
| 08:58.52 | e-Hernick | So in my case, power costs are not so relevant. However, a 4-channel softphone server would likely consume no more than 80W on average. |
| 08:59.35 | e-Hernick | 20W per port is very reasonable; it would cost around 6$ of electricity a year. |
| 08:59.53 | e-Hernick | I daresay this will not be a problem. |
| 09:00.27 | pauldy | I calculate 60 dollars per channel |
| 09:00.40 | pauldy | at 3.5 cents |
| 09:00.40 | e-Hernick | at 20W per channel ? |
| 09:00.51 | e-Hernick | that's crazy |
| 09:01.04 | e-Hernick | it's like saying that a 100W light bulb costs 300$ a year to keep on |
| 09:02.24 | e-Hernick | Let's assume that a 20W channel costs 60$ a year |
| 09:02.46 | X-Rob | why the hell are you talking about electricity |
| 09:02.52 | X-Rob | are you running the machine off solar power? |
| 09:02.58 | pauldy | having fun with it coast to coast is over so my time to listen to crazy people is too |
| 09:03.22 | e-Hernick | this means that my 1kWh air conditioner which runs 24 hours a day during the summer months, will cost me 1250$ a month to operate |
| 09:03.51 | e-Hernick | we can clearly see that in your world where power costs an order of magnitude more than in the reality-based community, only the rich can afford to cook their eggs in the morning. |
| 09:04.14 | e-Hernick | X-Rob, well, pauldy was claiming that a softphone server was unworkable due to power costs. |
| 09:04.37 | pauldy | no I wasn't but thats ok |
| 09:04.49 | e-Hernick | X-Rob, obviously, his faith-based power arithmetics are rather inadequate for this kind of analysis. |
| 09:04.51 | case__ | i try to call my asterisk server with linphone (sip) , and all i get is a "user cannot be found at given address" message :( |
| 09:06.31 | e-Hernick | case__, have you read the instructions on voip-info.org ? |
| 09:07.04 | case__ | i have |
| 09:07.18 | case__ | this one in particular: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+phone+linphone |
| 09:07.35 | case__ | but it doesn't help me much... |
| 09:09.18 | *** join/#asterisk syle (n=blah@unaffiliated/syle) |
| 09:10.22 | case__ | i guess i haven't filled the "remote services" right, but the wiki page doesn't say much about this part... |
| 09:10.58 | X-Rob | pauldy - *shrug* Keeping a PC on 24/7 doesn't cost me that much. and I've got two big servers and about 4 client PC's on 24/7 |
| 09:11.42 | pauldy | X-Rob, I can tell the difference for one month if I keep just one machine off |
| 09:12.07 | pauldy | I run 12 here |
| 09:12.29 | X-Rob | You must be getting ripped on power then, I guess. But shrug. |
| 09:12.50 | pauldy | well yea in the stated we all get ripped for power .15 per kWh |
| 09:12.56 | pauldy | err states |
| 09:13.09 | X-Rob | ick |
| 09:13.24 | X-Rob | but I'm honestly surprised you can tell the difference. |
| 09:13.49 | X-Rob | I s'pose if you don't have may other significant electrical applicances, that coudl make it obvious |
| 09:13.57 | pauldy | yea its arund 10-20 bucks a month |
| 09:14.49 | Ahrimanes | denmark = .25 per kWh |
| 09:14.49 | X-Rob | we've got two aircond's downstairs, one in the computer room on 24/7, three upstairs, one a 4000btu blizzard blaster (which, admittedly isn't on that often because you KNOW when you've used it on your power bill), plus we have electric hot water, and electric stoves |
| 09:15.22 | pauldy | Ahrimanes, is that a US dollar figure? |
| 09:15.27 | Ahrimanes | pauldy: yep |
| 09:15.30 | pauldy | or is there some absurd exchange rate thing |
| 09:15.45 | pauldy | damb well my ass doesn't hurt so bad after seeing yours |
| 09:15.52 | Ahrimanes | lol |
| 09:16.30 | Ahrimanes | that's the curse of being in a country with a mere 5.000.000 people |
| 09:16.41 | e-Hernick | Okay. I've reframed the problem. What I seek to build is not a mere softphone server, but rather an audio communications server with softphone capabilities. It doesn't only handle calls through Asterisk, but also other audio needs: sound streaming, mixing, recording, broadcasting... asterisk is an important part of this, but the server can do much more. A user can have music or radio mixed in with the sound. Why not handle a |
| 09:16.41 | e-Hernick | udio needs on the user's computer then ? Well, this is also doable - the computer sound output is recorded by the audio server and mixed appropriately. The 550$ system that I described earlier can do just that. |
| 09:17.16 | X-Rob | Ahrimanes - you could put your entire country into the state I'm in about 6 times over - and we've only got 25mil people country wide! |
| 09:17.45 | Ahrimanes | X-Rob: heh i know... New york holds as many i seem to recall |
| 09:17.45 | pauldy | I think the city I live in has 5 million |
| 09:18.28 | X-Rob | Ahrimanes - bugger that. |
| 09:18.52 | X-Rob | no wonder it's an arse of a place to live. |
| 09:18.56 | case__ | (is voip-info.org down for you too or is it me?) |
| 09:19.15 | X-Rob | looks like it's dead, jim. |
| 09:19.17 | Ahrimanes | X-Rob: the upside must be our 45+ percent aax rate |
| 09:19.19 | Ahrimanes | tax |
| 09:19.25 | pauldy | slow to respond but up for me |
| 09:19.25 | snitt | it is down for me too |
| 09:19.25 | Ahrimanes | oh wait.. that's not an up |
| 09:19.39 | X-Rob | Ahrimanes - 45% income tax? |
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| 09:19.53 | Ahrimanes | X-Rob: yeah |
| 09:20.21 | pauldy | Ahrimanes, what about sales taxes? |
| 09:20.25 | Ahrimanes | X-Rob: on top, if you make more than say $50.000 a year, everything above that get's hit by about 66% income tax |
| 09:20.28 | X-Rob | We have a sliding scale.. wifey's an accountant, but any money you earn over 55k is taxed at 47%, and anything over 120k is taxed at 49% |
| 09:20.32 | Ahrimanes | pauldy: 25% |
| 09:20.43 | X-Rob | 66% sucks |
| 09:20.49 | X-Rob | we have 10% GST/VAT |
| 09:20.55 | pauldy | governments are getting to big for their own britches |
| 09:20.57 | Ahrimanes | 25% VAT here |
| 09:20.58 | pauldy | viva la ravolution |
| 09:21.01 | pauldy | hehe |
| 09:21.02 | Ahrimanes | hehe |
| 09:21.12 | X-Rob | hah |
| 09:21.13 | Ahrimanes | the real killer en denmark is car taxes though |
| 09:21.16 | Ahrimanes | around 200% |
| 09:21.19 | X-Rob | viva la ravioliotion! |
| 09:21.42 | pauldy | I meant to type rev but its late what can I say |
| 09:21.44 | X-Rob | Ahrimanes - they'd never get away with that over here. |
| 09:21.55 | X-Rob | we have far too many roads |
| 09:22.03 | pauldy | X-Rob, they will just take it a tenth of a percent at a time |
| 09:22.09 | pauldy | just like they hve done in the us |
| 09:22.11 | X-Rob | altho they are thinking about bringing in a ludicrously oversized vehicle tax |
| 09:22.19 | X-Rob | to stop morons buying hummers and explorers and such |
| 09:22.26 | Ahrimanes | hehe |
| 09:22.54 | X-Rob | Ford F350. Your kenworth broken down? No worries, just hitch up the f350. |
| 09:23.23 | pauldy | yea, I knew someone who had one of those with the full lift package |
| 09:23.34 | pauldy | that thing looked like it could drive over a mobile home without and issue |
| 09:24.10 | Ahrimanes | hehe |
| 09:24.26 | pauldy | big ass diesel |
| 09:24.39 | Ahrimanes | you'd probably croak over the gas prices here too |
| 09:25.20 | pauldy | ye aman what can I say thats why there is only 5 million there everyone else is bailing ship as soon as their visas come in |
| 09:25.50 | X-Rob | Ahrimanes - We're paying about AUD$1.20/litre for diesel here |
| 09:26.22 | pauldy | hel I bitch about taxes in the US the government should take no more than 25% in taxes |
| 09:26.26 | X-Rob | what are you up for? |
| 09:26.30 | Ahrimanes | X-Rob: oh ok, gas is $1.56 approx per litre here |
| 09:26.47 | X-Rob | is that AUD or USD? |
| 09:26.58 | Ahrimanes | usd |
| 09:27.04 | X-Rob | gah |
| 09:27.12 | X-Rob | what are you paying in your currency? |
| 09:27.19 | X-Rob | google does all the hard work for you, you know |
| 09:27.27 | X-Rob | kroner per gallon? You just ask google 8) |
| 09:27.31 | Ahrimanes | hehe |
| 09:27.59 | pauldy | wow about 80 cents a liter here |
| 09:28.42 | Ahrimanes | about 9.10 dkk pr liter diesel here and 9.70 dkk per liter gasoline |
| 09:29.31 | pauldy | damb I wouldn't be able to afford to drive a motor scooter there |
| 09:29.50 | snitt | its HUF270 per liter |
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| 09:30.27 | tzafrir_laptop | hmmm, asterisk -r gets no input from stdin? the following does not work as planned: asterisk -rx 'show channels' | awk '/^Local/{printf "soft hangup %s\n",$1}' | asterisk -r |
| 09:31.57 | X-Rob | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=9.2+DKK+per+litre+in+AUD+per+litre&btnG=Search |
| 09:32.10 | X-Rob | That's spensy |
| 09:32.12 | pauldy | asteriksk -rx `asterisk -rx 'show channels' | awk '/^Local/{printf "soft hangup %s\n",$1}'` |
| 09:32.22 | pauldy | asteriksk -rx "`asterisk -rx 'show channels' | awk '/^Local/{printf "soft hangup %s\n",$1}'`" |
| 09:32.23 | X-Rob | but totally within the realms of possibility here |
| 09:32.28 | X-Rob | luckily for me, I work for a fuel company |
| 09:33.08 | Ahrimanes | X-Rob: just when i thought i used most of googles nifty features :) |
| 09:33.16 | pauldy | that work for you tzafrir_laptop |
| 09:33.35 | X-Rob | Ahrimanes - you can do that as 'USD per gallon' for the yanks |
| 09:34.01 | Ahrimanes | X-Rob: figured that out :) |
| 09:34.04 | X-Rob | that would kill them. $5.50 per gallon 8) |
| 09:34.19 | X-Rob | they're biching about $2 |
| 09:34.23 | Ahrimanes | X-Rob: hehe yeah, when i was there they were bitchin' over $1 per gallon |
| 09:34.35 | pauldy | http://www.google.com/search?q=9.2+DKK+per+litre+in+USD+per+gallon |
| 09:34.50 | X-Rob | that's 70c/liter |
| 09:34.54 | JamesDotCom | fark |
| 09:35.09 | X-Rob | I was still on my first car when it was 70c/l |
| 09:35.14 | pauldy | hell yea I'm bitching about anything more than 99 cents a gallon US |
| 09:35.16 | X-Rob | cigarettes were less than $5/packet |
| 09:35.24 | JamesDotCom | haha |
| 09:35.32 | Ahrimanes | and pussy was free? |
| 09:35.33 | Ahrimanes | heeh |
| 09:35.39 | X-Rob | pussy was _never_ free |
| 09:35.44 | JamesDotCom | X-Rob: it's hilarious thinking that only 2 years ago was the huuuuuuge reaction to petrol going +$1.00 |
| 09:35.46 | pauldy | pussy is always free |
| 09:36.07 | X-Rob | JamesDotCom - yuppers. The problem is, there's all these people around going 'It'll get back down to $1, really!' |
| 09:36.15 | X-Rob | when it's never, ever, gunna be that cheap again. |
| 09:36.34 | pauldy | not as long as something liek opec exists |
| 09:36.48 | X-Rob | pauldy - *laugh* |
| 09:36.54 | X-Rob | Dude. There's no oil left. |
| 09:36.57 | pauldy | I don't care the higher gas prices go the more interest there is in alternative fuels |
| 09:37.18 | Ahrimanes | mm hydrogen |
| 09:37.46 | X-Rob | Ahrimanes - that's crap too. All that's doing is changing to centrally generated electricity. I live 2km away from a coal-fired power station. You don't want more of them around. |
| 09:37.53 | X-Rob | biodiesel is the only way to move forward. |
| 09:37.57 | pauldy | X-Rob, peek oil is about as proven as global warming |
| 09:38.05 | X-Rob | you get the long chain hydrocarbons that can be used to make plastics |
| 09:38.09 | X-Rob | pauldy - exactly! |
| 09:38.27 | pauldy | hint X-Rob both are highly debated as to their validity |
| 09:38.33 | pauldy | or there |
| 09:38.34 | X-Rob | pauldy - uh no, no they're not. |
| 09:38.38 | Ahrimanes | X-Rob: hm bio-methane works well with hydrogen fuel cells.. no need for coal there |
| 09:38.47 | pauldy | uhm yes they are I"m debating it right now with you |
| 09:38.53 | X-Rob | pauldy - are you going to say you believe in tinkerbell and creation too? |
| 09:39.04 | pauldy | noa nd yes |
| 09:39.24 | X-Rob | well there you go. No use discussing stuff with someone who's not interested in looking at facts then, is there? |
| 09:39.46 | tzafrir_laptop | pauldy, I have lots of channels to kill. I can change the awk to print 'asterisk -rx' and pipe to a shell, but I'd like to put all the many command in one asterisk invocation |
| 09:41.00 | pauldy | X-Rob, and you can't dicuss with someone who has already made up their minds either |
| 09:41.31 | Ahrimanes | so now you're discussing whether or not you're able to discuss? |
| 09:41.39 | pauldy | apparently |
| 09:41.51 | pauldy | meanwhile I'm being bashed or beliving in god |
| 09:41.58 | X-Rob | pauldy - exactly. So give up, you live in your little faith-based world, and we'll be off worring about global warming and peak oil. |
| 09:42.04 | X-Rob | pauldy - no |
| 09:42.04 | pauldy | tollerance is so finicky |
| 09:42.04 | X-Rob | not at all |
| 09:42.17 | X-Rob | I respect your faith. That's fine. You can believe in whatever you want |
| 09:42.32 | pauldy | no you don't you just discounted my opinion based off the fact I believe in god |
| 09:42.36 | X-Rob | but when you believe in something that's immediately and obviously contradicted by evidence, well that's faith and not truth. |
| 09:42.39 | X-Rob | no |
| 09:42.46 | pauldy | thats about as tolerant as hitler was |
| 09:42.50 | X-Rob | I discounted your opinion because you believe in creation |
| 09:43.00 | X-Rob | you can worship whoever you want. |
| 09:43.49 | X-Rob | you can believe whatever you want too. But if someone says 'the sky is green' when simply looking up will prove that statement factually incorrect makes me think they're suffering from 'wooly thinking'. |
| 09:44.10 | pauldy | intellectual honesty means being able to look at the evidence that is provided for a point of view and the evidence that points gainst it and being able to decern when the evidence fo rboth sides is compelling enough not to form an opinion either way |
| 09:44.15 | Ahrimanes | X-Rob: or poor eyesight |
| 09:45.20 | pauldy | part of that for me at least is being able to see both the order and chaos of our universe and decide there is compelling evidence to support a higher power that created it all |
| 09:45.28 | X-Rob | pauldy - Absoloutely. Irrefutable evidence for creation - zero. Irrefutable evidence for a universe >10 billion years old, lots. Irrefutable evidence for an earth >1billtion years old, lots. |
| 09:46.23 | pauldy | X-Rob, ever hear of the story of the three black hats and two white hats |
| 09:46.24 | X-Rob | And if you can go 'Well, it was _created_ with fossils and billion-year old photos already in transit, and carbon-14 aging already in place' well that's just silly. |
| 09:47.00 | X-Rob | pauldy - please, fill me in. |
| 09:48.39 | pauldy | its a puzzle |
| 09:48.56 | pauldy | the only way you solve it is to get over the idea you know more than the guy next to you |
| 09:49.13 | X-Rob | but I do 8) |
| 09:49.16 | X-Rob | That's the thing |
| 09:49.32 | X-Rob | It's astoundingly easy to know more than the person next to you |
| 09:49.44 | X-Rob | because statisticly, the person next to you is going to have an IQ less than 100. |
| 09:50.00 | darkskiez | no, statistically they will have an IQ of 100 |
| 09:50.07 | darkskiez | thats how IQ works. |
| 09:50.15 | X-Rob | darkskiez - no, that's the median IQ, not the average. |
| 09:50.30 | X-Rob | and I'm standing from the position of having >100 |
| 09:50.33 | darkskiez | yeh, but do u sit with dorks? |
| 09:50.42 | darkskiez | no u sit with smart people |
| 09:50.49 | darkskiez | pah meeting. |
| 09:51.06 | X-Rob | so if I randomly grab someone from the population, being that I'm on the high side of the median, they are more likely to be on the low side |
| 09:53.33 | pauldy | http://www.mathsisfun.com/puzzles/black-and-white-hats.html |
| 09:54.06 | pauldy | btw knowing more and having a higher iq != |
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| 09:55.27 | X-Rob | pauldy - that's easy. because there's only two white hats. |
| 09:55.28 | pauldy | anyway the "moral" of the story is to look at the issues from all angles not just what was put in front of you |
| 09:55.40 | X-Rob | there's no moral. it's just a fun puzzle. |
| 09:56.00 | X-Rob | I have another one. |
| 09:56.12 | pauldy | really so what was your answer? |
| 09:56.59 | X-Rob | if the last guy had seen two white hats, he would have known his was black, and got away. |
| 09:57.35 | X-Rob | the front guy, having excluded the other two situations [can't do formuals in IRC argh] |
| 09:57.47 | X-Rob | knows that he's wearing one of the three black hats. |
| 09:58.13 | X-Rob | geez, that's a high school puzzle |
| 09:58.27 | pauldy | oh they had the answer linked on the page |
| 09:59.00 | pauldy | lame |
| 09:59.02 | X-Rob | Oh, so they did. |
| 09:59.09 | X-Rob | But still, it's not hard. |
| 09:59.21 | pauldy | and they are also missing one crucial bit as where you in your answer |
| 09:59.36 | X-Rob | OK |
| 09:59.51 | X-Rob | I'll do a web page with the formula for solving this |
| 09:59.51 | X-Rob | geez. |
| 10:00.01 | X-Rob | but it's _immedately_ obvious |
| 10:00.54 | X-Rob | Actually, can spell it out easier on pastebin |
| 10:03.09 | pauldy | don't waste your time I wouldn't believe you didn't get it from the answer anyway |
| 10:03.28 | X-Rob | But you'll believe the sky is green. |
| 10:03.29 | X-Rob | onya. |
| 10:04.56 | X-Rob | You see, this is the thing when people try to defend something that is incorrect. You get all defensive. "I'm right, I know I'm right, so I have no need to look at the piles of evidence here to prove me wrong. In fact, I'm going to argue about everything else to distract you from the original point of me being wrong" |
| 10:08.35 | pauldy | uhm huh |
| 10:09.14 | X-Rob | Show me one conclusive piece of evidence to support creation? |
| 10:09.21 | pauldy | I simply said that it is a debatable topic and you attacked my beliefs |
| 10:09.29 | X-Rob | No it's not |
| 10:09.32 | syle | sounds like being married x-rob |
| 10:09.34 | X-Rob | you said you believed in creation. |
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| 10:09.50 | pauldy | yea I do and |
| 10:09.53 | X-Rob | by believing in creation you're putting faith in front of proof. |
| 10:09.58 | pauldy | whats that have to do with peek oil |
| 10:10.06 | X-Rob | Uh, no. |
| 10:10.22 | pauldy | see you detracked from the original topic onto something you felt more comfortable attacking my beliefs |
| 10:10.24 | X-Rob | You look at how much oil is left in the ground, and then look at how much has been taken out |
| 10:10.42 | X-Rob | note that amount a (oil left) is less than amount b (oil taken out) |
| 10:10.46 | pauldy | your right and you know your right |
| 10:10.56 | X-Rob | Feel free to show me proof |
| 10:11.10 | X-Rob | that I'm wrong and I'll quite happily admit I was wrong |
| 10:11.12 | X-Rob | and I'd love to be |
| 10:11.23 | pauldy | and the people on the other end say show me proof there isn't mroe oil left to be discovered |
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| 10:11.35 | tld | I've got a problem with an Asterisk instance suddenly going into freak-mode, and eating 100% CPU. Doesn't seem like it's in use, because I see no sad effects of killing it, even during an active call. Any ideas/suggestions? |
| 10:11.48 | pauldy | and liek I said I could care less because something will replace oil when the price gets high enough |
| 10:11.55 | X-Rob | pauldy - uh, which people on the other end? Not the oil companies, or the geologists, or the refineries? |
| 10:12.01 | X-Rob | pauldy - Ahha. What? |
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| 10:12.37 | shanky | good morning |
| 10:12.38 | X-Rob | This is where I came in saying that a biodiesel is going to be the only way (that I can think of) to continue a semblance of our current lifestyles. |
| 10:12.56 | pauldy | X-Rob, ok and at what point does that become economical |
| 10:13.20 | X-Rob | economical isn't the issue |
| 10:13.26 | X-Rob | energy-positive is the issue |
| 10:13.38 | X-Rob | we need to get more energy out of fuel x than we put into creating it |
| 10:14.15 | pauldy | which is why the use of the sun for creating the biodiesel |
| 10:14.17 | shanky | anybody use centos for x86_64 with asterisk? |
| 10:14.17 | X-Rob | which means we need 'free' energy. The only 'free' energy is stuff like solar, wind, geothermal, tidal(?)... |
| 10:15.21 | pauldy | X-Rob, I wrote my thesis on alternative forms of energy so I'm very familiar with all this |
| 10:15.35 | pauldy | what I'm not gettig is the point your trying to make |
| 10:15.58 | X-Rob | even working at 100% energy conversion, 2hp per meter2 of solar power into biodiesel. There's a way to work this out that works out to be '30% of australia covered by biodiesel farms to cover our current energy utilisation' |
| 10:16.06 | Delvar | thats why we need gerbil power |
| 10:16.17 | X-Rob | you said there's no such thing as peak oil or global warming. |
| 10:16.18 | X-Rob | I say that's crap. |
| 10:16.24 | X-Rob | you then were asking about energy sources |
| 10:16.30 | X-Rob | and I explained how they work. |
| 10:16.36 | pauldy | no I said that peek oil was about as proven as global warming |
| 10:16.47 | X-Rob | both of which are 100% proven |
| 10:16.57 | pauldy | and I then told you that both where debatable topics |
| 10:17.08 | X-Rob | there's no doubt in anyone's mind that global warming is happening. |
| 10:17.14 | pauldy | X-Rob, what do you work for shell oi or something |
| 10:17.26 | X-Rob | I work for Exxon/Mobil, actually 8) |
| 10:17.52 | pauldy | well see then I should simply discount all that your saying you work for the people making money off the idea energy is in short supply |
| 10:18.26 | X-Rob | pauldy - What's that got to do with global warming and me saying 'use less oil'? |
| 10:18.41 | X-Rob | I'm saying 'fossil fuels are running out, find something to replace my employers' |
| 10:18.45 | pauldy | becuase you get higher premiums for less product |
| 10:18.48 | X-Rob | and because of that I'm uh, what, again? |
| 10:19.38 | newl | a slack bastard! 8) |
| 10:19.43 | X-Rob | exactly! |
| 10:19.45 | Ahrimanes | haha |
| 10:19.48 | newl | :) |
| 10:19.57 | X-Rob | I actually work for a distributor group. |
| 10:20.12 | X-Rob | Mobil has pulled out of australia, they don't have any retail sites at all |
| 10:20.19 | X-Rob | they're purely a wholesaler now. |
| 10:20.37 | Ahrimanes | mm beer |
| 10:20.48 | pauldy | X-Rob, and you are aware too that not to long ago in the earths history everyone thought it was flat too |
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| 10:21.06 | newl | wholesale advertising on the supercars heh wheeeeeeeee |
| 10:21.18 | X-Rob | pauldy - yes. Until experiments proved that incorrect. |
| 10:21.25 | pauldy | not to say your point is entirely wrong just that at this point it is debatable |
| 10:22.05 | X-Rob | pauldy - it's not debatable, it's not a hypothesys, it's a fact. Just because some peopel want to cover their eyes and say 'I believe in fairies' doesn't make it any less true. |
| 10:22.29 | pauldy | and just because X-Rob said it on IRC doesn't make it true either |
| 10:22.33 | X-Rob | exactly! |
| 10:23.01 | X-Rob | I'm not the one saying it's true. I'm just the one who's looked at all the research. Anyone else can do it. |
| 10:23.06 | pauldy | newl, probably won't happen to few people controling the resources |
| 10:23.29 | X-Rob | <pauldy> newl, probably won't happen, too few people controling the resources |
| 10:23.48 | pauldy | I looked at the research that supported peek ol production in the 70s the research that put it in the 80 the research that put it in the 90s and the research that says it won't come until 2010 |
| 10:23.58 | newl | If I didn't like having 310KW at the rear wheels, I'd get something with a bit less oompf than a 4L turbo. :) |
| 10:24.08 | X-Rob | newl - what the smeg have you got? |
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| 10:24.16 | newl | X-Rob: XR6T |
| 10:24.21 | X-Rob | Hah |
| 10:24.25 | X-Rob | was going to ask that 8) |
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| 10:24.47 | X-Rob | One of my (non-fuel) customers here has just got a GT |
| 10:24.53 | X-Rob | that's a hornbag of a car. |
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| 10:25.03 | newl | aye, nice machines |
| 10:25.27 | X-Rob | I've got a diesel prado |
| 10:25.29 | newl | Drove a mates Typhoon the other day. It was _almost_ as nice (and as quick) as mine. |
| 10:25.57 | newl | diesel prices..there's another one I don't understand. It's unprocessed fuel, why is it more expensive than refined petrol? :) |
| 10:26.03 | X-Rob | gets me from sydney to gladstone w/o filling up - carries 180l, does about 140kph downhill with a tailwind, but it's as comfortable as anything, and ultra reliable |
| 10:26.17 | X-Rob | newl - it's not unprocessed |
| 10:26.31 | X-Rob | It's fractional distillation |
| 10:26.33 | X-Rob | google for that |
| 10:26.57 | X-Rob | they boil the oil, and as it cools, stuff forms at different temperatures. |
| 10:27.01 | newl | hokay. Will read up in a bit after dinner. :) |
| 10:27.49 | X-Rob | diesel forms at a cooler temperature than petrol, and kero forms up the hot bits. Hotter=lighter |
| 10:27.57 | X-Rob | (or it could be the other way round) |
| 10:28.06 | newl | hmm speaking of speed, I really must go look at that speed camera photo soon to figure out if it really was me or not. ;) |
| 10:28.23 | Ahrimanes | newl: nah.. just pay ;) |
| 10:28.29 | X-Rob | newl - what state are you in? |
| 10:28.31 | X-Rob | SA? |
| 10:28.44 | newl | no way haha I've been point free since I arrived in Australia. :) |
| 10:28.46 | newl | WA |
| 10:28.56 | X-Rob | Didn't know they took front-on piccys in WA |
| 10:29.13 | X-Rob | everywhere else it's the arse of the car, so you never know who's driving it |
| 10:29.14 | newl | road side cameras do yeah |
| 10:29.27 | newl | yeah, the light cameras are rear shots |
| 10:29.38 | newl | revenue makers I tell ya |
| 10:30.32 | newl | I'll drop a few questions while I'm there such as when the camera was last calibrated, and when the operator was last certified and see where I get if it really is me. |
| 10:30.52 | newl | There was a chick in front of me and I was a car length off her ass. |
| 10:31.09 | newl | If anything they clocked her and should ticket me for failure to maintain a safe distance. hehe |
| 10:31.50 | Ahrimanes | newl: hehe |
| 10:32.15 | Ahrimanes | oh food |
| 10:32.18 | X-Rob | early for dinner |
| 10:32.19 | X-Rob | 5:30? |
| 10:32.23 | Ahrimanes | interesting concept |
| 10:32.24 | newl | 6:30 |
| 10:32.45 | X-Rob | since when have you been 2 hours behind me? or is that daylight savings? |
| 10:33.14 | newl | I didn't think Qld had dst like nsw and the like. |
| 10:39.11 | Igbothom_III | we don't |
| 10:39.19 | Igbothom_III | it scares our cows |
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| 10:40.36 | Ahrimanes | hate it when they stampede |
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| 10:44.43 | ManxPower | New Nokia phone that supports "voip" http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/13/nokia_eseries_analysis/page2.html |
| 10:48.13 | Igbothom_III | my imate PDA2K supports VOIP :) |
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| 10:56.19 | MRH2 | anyone know what "TAM capacity at the exchange" refers to? |
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| 10:57.09 | MRH2 | it is something to do with available "TAM lines" |
| 10:57.20 | IOscanner | install asterisk on a new box and moved my configs and my cisco 7960 phones to the new server and I can't connect for some reason |
| 10:57.36 | IOscanner | anyone have an ideas how to check this |
| 10:57.48 | IOscanner | I checked asterisk show peers it show it registered |
| 10:57.58 | IOscanner | checked /var/log/asterisk/full |
| 10:58.01 | IOscanner | no issues |
| 11:06.15 | Delvar | IOscanner check dialplan, make sure its in corect context |
| 11:06.23 | Delvar | look at cli with verbose 1000000 |
| 11:06.26 | Delvar | an dmake a calll |
| 11:08.06 | RoyK | # find / -name Delta34 -exec dd if=/dev/zero of={} bs=1M count=1 |
| 11:08.12 | RoyK | # find / -name Delvar -exec dd if=/dev/zero of={} bs=1M count=1 |
| 11:08.18 | RoyK | now that's better |
| 11:09.10 | Delvar | :/ |
| 11:09.45 | IOscanner | that never changed |
| 11:09.58 | IOscanner | I copied a working system to a new box |
| 11:10.13 | IOscanner | I have a sipura-2000 working fine |
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| 11:10.27 | IOscanner | just can't register with the cisco phones |
| 11:11.37 | IOscanner | Okay now sip show peers is showing unspecified for all cisco phones |
| 11:14.04 | MRH2 | can u ping or whatever the cisco phones, |
| 11:14.34 | MRH2 | are the cisco phones pointing to the new server? |
| 11:14.40 | IOscanner | yes |
| 11:14.54 | IOscanner | yes |
| 11:15.15 | IOscanner | I see them pull the config from the server |
| 11:16.28 | MRH2 | can you see the phones attempting a call on the cli? |
| 11:16.44 | IOscanner | no they are not registered now |
| 11:16.55 | MRH2 | can you see them try? |
| 11:17.20 | MRH2 | there should be some activity if they are contacting the asterisk box |
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| 11:18.17 | edonkey | hello! |
| 11:18.46 | edonkey | anyone here who uses asterisk between telco and the TK-Anlage?! |
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| 11:19.11 | edonkey | or anyone here who could translate TK-Anlage for me into english. i was unlucky so far ;) |
| 11:19.14 | IOscanner | Yes I see them talking to the server on port 5060 |
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| 11:20.13 | pooh_ | Hi guys, voicemail will not play vm-received, although the file is there. Any clue pls? |
| 11:20.24 | bigfoot1 | hello everyone. I'm using ubuntu 5.10 (breesy badger) with gnome. I'm looking for an iaxclient. What is good? |
| 11:20.52 | MRH2 | what does it say on the cli? does it look like they are authorising ok? |
| 11:20.59 | ManxPower | pooh_, Not realy (other than the usual stuff -- does the file exist, is there a NAT issue, is there a codec issue) |
| 11:21.39 | bigfoot1 | I understand that there is a iaxComm program (http://iaxclient.sourceforge.net/iaxcomm/index.html). But the newest version they have is a release candidate all the way back in March 2005. Sounds like it's dying.. |
| 11:21.49 | bigfoot1 | anybody here on linux? |
| 11:21.50 | IOscanner | nope none of the cisco phones are registered |
| 11:22.00 | bigfoot1 | if you use linux, please let me know. |
| 11:22.13 | ManxPower | bigfoot1, Most of use use linux, but not for a softphone. |
| 11:22.30 | bigfoot1 | ManxPower: oh, so you mean you have special hardware for this stuff? |
| 11:22.33 | ManxPower | Softphones suck - and linux softphones REALLY suck. |
| 11:22.42 | bigfoot1 | ManxPower: what is a good softphone for people in my shoes? |
| 11:22.48 | morale | bigfoot1, what version of windows is that? |
| 11:22.48 | ManxPower | bigfoot1, Yes, we use hardware phones or ATAs |
| 11:23.00 | bigfoot1 | morale: i don't use windows. i use linux (ubuntu) |
| 11:23.28 | ManxPower | bigfoot1, someone else was working on installing iaxcomm last night. I don't recall their name. |
| 11:23.41 | bigfoot1 | ManxPower: you mean a developer? |
| 11:23.50 | ManxPower | bigfoot1, no, a user. |
| 11:24.15 | bigfoot1 | ManxPower: and this person was working on it because it's broken? |
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| 11:24.28 | ManxPower | bigfoot1, no, he was having install problems. |
| 11:24.50 | pooh_ | ManxPower: type in the voicemail app. It will call for vm-recieved while the filename of the sound is vm-received |
| 11:25.25 | ManxPower | pooh_, Odd. sounds like a bug. can you symlink the one that exists to the name that does not exist/ |
| 11:25.47 | pooh_ | ManxPower: changed the name already, now it works |
| 11:25.52 | lubomier | anyone here succesfully usin chan_misdn.so ? i have trouble to compile it from sources (lot of sources) and the binary for debian (testing) also fails when asterisk starts... |
| 11:26.02 | ManxPower | bigfoot1, when a hardware phone costs as little as $60 it's silly to waste the time on a softphone. |
| 11:26.08 | ManxPower | pooh_, be sure to file a bug report |
| 11:26.34 | pooh_ | ManxPower: as soon as I have found out why I will |
| 11:26.34 | pooh_ | why the typo I mean |
| 11:26.55 | bigfoot1 | ManxPower: maybe you can tell me of popular/good softphones for linux (specifically for gnome desktop), please? |
| 11:27.04 | IOscanner | got it |
| 11:27.10 | IOscanner | damn |
| 11:27.24 | ManxPower | bigfoot1, I think X-Lite has a linux version. but I don't believe there is any good softphone. |
| 11:27.47 | IOscanner | I added ip_conntract_sip and nat_sip supportinto the kernel and if the modules are loaded they screw up auth |
| 11:27.57 | IOscanner | the second I removed the modules it worked |
| 11:28.09 | bigfoot1 | ManxPower: so you're saying X-lite is not good. |
| 11:28.11 | IOscanner | or kphone for linux works too |
| 11:28.37 | bigfoot1 | IOscanner: i used kiax, but i thought it would be good if i got a phone meant for gnome (what i'm using). |
| 11:28.40 | ManxPower | bigfoot1, All soft phones suck. X-Lite seems to suck less. |
| 11:28.48 | bigfoot1 | ManxPower: i see. |
| 11:29.28 | ManxPower | pooh_, The english rule is "i before e, except after c" |
| 11:29.29 | Ahrimanes | x-lite sucks when you have to explain people how they set it up |
| 11:29.29 | IOscanner | I agree X-Lite is not bad. If you get a bluetooth headset it even sucks less |
| 11:29.44 | Ahrimanes | firefly is so much easier to setup |
| 11:30.13 | bigfoot1 | Ahrimanes: is firefly a softphone for linux (gnome/ubuntu)? |
| 11:30.34 | bigfoot1 | where can i get x-lite? I hope they have a .deb file for me? |
| 11:30.36 | bigfoot1 | for me. |
| 11:30.40 | IOscanner | a hard phone with pushed configs are the best and easiest option |
| 11:30.43 | Ahrimanes | bigfoot1: ah no |
| 11:30.49 | Ahrimanes | IOscanner: yep |
| 11:31.03 | IOscanner | nope no x-lite as a .deb |
| 11:31.03 | bigfoot1 | Ahrimanes: no? firefly isnt' a softphone? |
| 11:31.16 | Ahrimanes | bigfoot1: it is, but not for linux |
| 11:31.17 | ManxPower | Firefly is Windows only. |
| 11:31.31 | bigfoot1 | Ahrimanes: where can i get this suck-the-least X-Lite |
| 11:31.32 | bigfoot1 | ? |
| 11:31.54 | Ahrimanes | my bet would be xten.com |
| 11:33.04 | ManxPower | "Google is your friend" |
| 11:34.08 | IOscanner | well I am going to get a few hours of sleep before I fall over. |
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| 11:37.46 | zobia | Hello everyone. |
| 11:38.11 | zobia | I can not receive any digits i enter in the softphone. i turn on the dtmf to force to send |
| 11:38.24 | zobia | but asterisk still did not get anything. |
| 11:39.15 | Ahrimanes | make sure the softphone and asterisk agree on whether dtmf is inband or rfc.. |
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| 11:40.23 | bigfoot1 | ManxPower: thank you SO MUCH for telling me about X-Lite. IT was so easy to install. I just untarred it and doubeclicked the executable!!! |
| 11:43.04 | zobia | thanks Ahrimanes |
| 11:43.05 | zobia | i will try |
| 11:43.35 | Ahrimanes | zobia: np |
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| 11:51.07 | fugitivo | morning |
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| 11:59.12 | ManxPower | Can anyone recommend a terminal emulation program for windows. i.e.e like Teliax or Qmodem was for DOS? |
| 11:59.19 | ManxPower | ~manxpower |
| 11:59.21 | jbot | [manxpower] someone you should hire for a job in BelgiumNetherlands |
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| 12:04.22 | lehel | hello |
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| 12:07.39 | mmmToop | hi guys...busy integrating with a Nortel via PRI & having problems with timing & dropping digits... |
| 12:07.47 | mmmToop | any ideas where we can start looking? |
| 12:09.32 | mmmToop | ...if I do a pri intense debug I get a whole bunch of counter errors |
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| 12:09.48 | rigid | re |
| 12:10.27 | rigid | i asked some similiar question before but, is it possible to install a dialplan for softphones in the LAN using asterisk? |
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| 12:11.11 | rigid | or is some isdn/phone-hardware necessary for using asterisk... |
| 12:11.29 | mmmToop | ...if you want to connect to the PSTN yes |
| 12:11.52 | rigid | mmmToop, hmm... whats a PSTN? :) i'm not so much into telephony |
| 12:12.06 | rigid | mmmToop, i thought as a kind of "proxy" ... |
| 12:12.10 | mmmToop | public switched telco network |
| 12:12.24 | rigid | mmmToop, nope... just SIP |
| 12:12.36 | mmmToop | hi...pay a visit to www.voip-info.org ...will answer all your questions |
| 12:12.51 | rigid | mmmToop, you mean real phone-line jacks (subscriber line) |
| 12:13.09 | rigid | mmmToop, there is no ready solution for a voip-proxy+dial-plan there... |
| 12:13.17 | mmmToop | yip the telephon network |
| 12:13.56 | rigid | mmmToop, i already figured out there, that in theory i could setup sipX as a registrar, install my dialplan there and forward the calls to another registrar... but that's complicated |
| 12:14.50 | mmmToop | what do you want to do with the system? |
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| 12:15.47 | bigfoot1 | ManxPower: just to confirm: x-lite can do iax, right? |
| 12:15.57 | ManxPower | bigfoot1, no. |
| 12:16.41 | bigfoot1 | ManxPower: oh! i thought it could, that's why i downloaded it. |
| 12:16.48 | rigid | mmmToop, i have 2 softphones using 2 voip accounts in the LAN... i want to use a dialplan to automatically put a prefix dependant on time-of-the-day before all numbers that are dialed from the LAN... |
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| 12:17.18 | synthetiq | how can i implement load balancing on 3 asterisk machiens with the same config? |
| 12:17.41 | ManxPower | synthetiq, you didn't find anything useful when you did your mailinglist archive search |
| 12:17.45 | rigid | mmmToop, i can configure registrar, login/pw and proxy on the softphones... so i thought maybe asterisk can act as a registrar/proxy, alter the numbers and forward them to the real voip-registrar... |
| 12:18.09 | mmmToop | rigid: Asterisk can do that... |
| 12:18.49 | rigid | mmmToop, cool... now i can at least start trying :) do you happen to know if there's a readymade docu for that? or a keyword? i didn't find any... |
| 12:19.00 | mmmToop | u will need it to register with your providers for you with the register => string in either sip.conf or iax.conf...depending what your supplier is offering |
| 12:19.09 | mmmToop | then use the dial cmd to route |
| 12:19.35 | mmmToop | visit voip-info.org...all there... |
| 12:19.47 | rigid | mmmToop, what login/pw/registrar/proxy will the softphones have then? |
| 12:19.50 | synthetiq | where do i do that maxpower |
| 12:19.51 | rigid | mmmToop, ok... tnx |
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| 12:20.04 | mmmToop | good luck ; ) |
| 12:20.12 | rigid | mmmToop, :) |
| 12:20.16 | synthetiq | i tried usign SER to do it but its not working properly |
| 12:20.18 | morale | are grandstream phones any good? |
| 12:20.39 | *** part/#asterisk popvoxdave (i=user@dave2.toad.net) |
| 12:20.41 | mmmToop | pretty cheap...but ok |
| 12:21.00 | mmmToop | supposed to have good audio quality for a cheap phone... |
| 12:21.03 | morale | for a home/business phone.. |
| 12:21.11 | rigid | mmmToop, can't reach the site? |
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| 12:21.21 | rigid | mmmToop, voip-info.org ? www.voip-info.org? |
| 12:21.32 | X-Rob | it's down |
| 12:21.37 | rigid | damn |
| 12:21.54 | mmmToop | ...workin fine 4 me...? |
| 12:22.34 | rigid | mmmToop, maybe some major backbone broken...? |
| 12:22.49 | mmmToop | maybe... |
| 12:23.04 | X-Rob | mmmToop - it's broken. You must have a proxy in the way somewhere. |
| 12:23.07 | X-Rob | click on shift-reload |
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| 12:29.59 | case__ | voip-info.org is still time-outing for me :( |
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| 12:39.41 | Ariel_ | Morning everyone |
| 12:41.23 | pooh_ | morn |
| 12:42.19 | Igbothom_III | moinin' |
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| 12:45.41 | mmmToop | afternoon ; ) |
| 12:45.52 | mmmToop | so biased to your timezone ; ) |
| 12:45.54 | Igbothom_III | good afterbreakfast |
| 12:46.07 | Igbothom_III | it is night here - 2244 |
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| 12:48.37 | synthetiq | so well voip info is down... anyone know how to load balance amongst 3 cloned servers? |
| 12:48.50 | Igbothom_III | yeah, noticed :( |
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| 12:55.00 | astoria | Long time no see... |
| 12:56.02 | mutilator | O_o |
| 12:56.45 | RoyK | argh |
| 12:56.48 | RoyK | wiki down again? |
| 12:57.06 | Igbothom_III | siki wiki |
| 12:58.58 | Katty | mew. |
| 12:59.25 | ManxPower | synthetiq, The mailing list archive has extensive discussions about Asterisk load blanacing. |
| 12:59.44 | ManxPower | The bottom line is "it's not easy and nobody will tell anyone else when they have succeeded" |
| 12:59.51 | ManxPower | ~mailinglist |
| 12:59.55 | jbot | methinks mailinglist is Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/ |
| 13:00.26 | Katty | mew? |
| 13:00.45 | Igbothom_III | ok, as it is question time, how's * on BSD these days? Zaptel drivers for FSO/FXS cards, and E1/T1 card support? |
| 13:04.55 | synthetiq | would it be in asterisk users lsit maxpower? |
| 13:06.15 | ManxPower | synthetiq, I think so |
| 13:06.26 | synthetiq | hmm no search option |
| 13:07.07 | synthetiq | ahh nm |
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| 13:09.32 | Katty | why is it no one says hi anymore? |
| 13:10.07 | Igbothom_III | g'day Katty |
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| 13:10.44 | Katty | Igbothom_III: too late. |
| 13:11.10 | Igbothom_III | I said it ages back, when I came online :) |
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| 13:13.51 | ManxPower | ~mailinglist |
| 13:13.53 | jbot | mailinglist is, like, Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/ |
| 13:13.54 | astoria | hello katty |
| 13:14.46 | Katty | astoria: ((= |
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| 13:15.03 | astoria | long time no see, i haven't been on here since cluecon! |
| 13:15.25 | joaoraf | any kiax developer here? |
| 13:15.34 | Katty | astoria: oh? who were you? |
| 13:16.08 | astoria | some guy sitting in the back row chillin on IRC |
| 13:16.52 | mmmToop | hi guys...anyone got experience integrating with a Nortel option 11C? |
| 13:18.02 | astoria | actually, i was the guy in the clown outfit. |
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| 13:18.41 | Katty | astoria: k |
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| 13:19.45 | astoria | i've been starting my company up in the last few months. yay. office space in detroit = uber cheap. |
| 13:20.14 | nwhit | i recently upgraded to cvs head and I am getting a strange message: cdr_addon_mysql.c:166 mysql_log: cdr_mysql: Retried to connect fives times, giving up. |
| 13:20.24 | nwhit | But it is still posting cdr to the database |
| 13:20.27 | nwhit | any ideas? |
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| 13:25.25 | ManxPower | mmmToop, for the most part the PBX does not matter. |
| 13:25.59 | Lathos42 | astoria: Are you poised to take the Detroit Telecom market by storm now? |
| 13:26.16 | mmmToop | ManxPower:...oh... |
| 13:26.17 | ManxPower | mmmToop, If the PBX has a CT1 or PRI ports then you use TEx0xP card with Asterisk, if it's analog then use a TEx0xP card and a channel bank. I do not recommend digium analog cards. |
| 13:26.33 | ManxPower | The only real issue is the PBX dialplan. |
| 13:26.43 | mmmToop | we are integrating with PRI to the pbx |
| 13:27.20 | mmmToop | it is getting realy irritating... |
| 13:27.39 | mmmToop | the nortel is dropping digits when we dial through it |
| 13:27.50 | mmmToop | any ideas? |
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| 13:28.55 | astoria | Lathos42: ha ha, long time no see.. yeah right.. |
| 13:29.06 | mmmToop | ManxPower: I think it is a timing issue as when we do a pri intense debug there are some timing messages that dont look good |
| 13:29.14 | mmmToop | not sure though |
| 13:29.21 | astoria | Lathos42: i have come up with a few good ideas though, that I think I could sell.. Like commercial radio promotional services.. |
| 13:29.23 | ManxPower | Define "timing messages" |
| 13:29.52 | astoria | Lathos42: the only problem is that i'm not a sales guy... |
| 13:30.05 | mmmToop | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.15 | mmmToop | -- Since there was nothing left, stopping T200 counter |
| 13:30.23 | mmmToop | etc.etc.. ; ) |
| 13:30.39 | Lathos42 | astoria: Yeah, I have a small business I started back in 2000, but I'm not a sales guy either so its remained very small |
| 13:30.58 | mmmToop | ManxPower: any thoughts? |
| 13:31.01 | Igbothom_III | that's the main issues when a tech starts a business |
| 13:31.26 | astoria | Igbothom_III: here here.. I'm working on finding a sales guy though... the only problem is that they want too much money :) |
| 13:31.43 | Igbothom_III | any sales guy worth his salt should want commission only |
| 13:31.54 | astoria | either way, I can get a great deal of office space at TechTown in Detroit: www.techtownwsu.org |
| 13:32.02 | Igbothom_III | a sales guy on a base is a lazy salesman - and that's NOT what u want |
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| 13:32.11 | ManxPower | mmmToop, doesn't look like an error to me. |
| 13:32.12 | Igbothom_III | (u also don't want an overly pushy salesperson) |
| 13:32.21 | ManxPower | are you getting any HDLC abort errors? |
| 13:32.22 | astoria | well, the sales guys I've been talking to want a peice of the company.. |
| 13:32.41 | brookshire | that's usually how it goes |
| 13:32.47 | Igbothom_III | use that as a bonus, maybe, but not their regular commission |
| 13:32.49 | brookshire | or commission on total sales |
| 13:33.01 | mmmToop | ManxPower: nope...doesnt look like it |
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| 13:33.16 | Igbothom_III | as long as they don't cut prices - that cuts YOU margin more than it does theirsa |
| 13:33.16 | Lathos42 | astoria: You've been away from here for so long that hell froze over and my * project got approved :) |
| 13:33.38 | dreamler | dudes, any1 could help : if i need to take control over channel ( after connect ) is any chance to do it without code modification |
| 13:33.56 | astoria | Lathos42: oh yeah, have you implemented it yet? |
| 13:34.33 | Lathos42 | astoria: Not yet, it got approved last monday, so i'm waiting for the initial equipment to get here so I can get started on it. I'm shooting for a rollout by the end of the year |
| 13:34.42 | sambal | how are those new gsm phones called? |
| 13:34.43 | sambal | 3gp |
| 13:34.45 | sambal | 3pg? |
| 13:34.47 | astoria | nice, PRI? |
| 13:35.02 | mmmToop | ManxPower: are these normal PRI messages? '-- ACKing all packets from 70 to (but not including) 71' ? |
| 13:35.13 | Lathos42 | astoria: Yep, and Polycom IP501s with PoE |
| 13:35.23 | Igbothom_III | Polycom - nice |
| 13:35.32 | astoria | Lathos42: nice, just like my setup here, minus the PoE |
| 13:35.44 | ManxPower | mmmToop, I don't know, but ERRORS are normally seen without needing to do a PRI debug |
| 13:36.17 | Lathos42 | astoria: yeah, I figured I have a hard enough time finding a spot on people's power strips to plugin their computer, let alone a phone. Plus it lets me put them all on UPS |
| 13:36.41 | astoria | I just daisy chain power strips :) |
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| 13:37.03 | Katty | Hmmhesays: mew. |
| 13:37.15 | mmmToop | well in that case there are no errors... |
| 13:37.28 | mmmToop | as u dont see any without an intense debug |
| 13:37.45 | many | mh. when i try to bridge a fax from fxo over to isdn, what options do i have to set in zapata.conf? seems theres not much doc what to configure there. |
| 13:37.52 | astoria | wow, i haven't seen asterlink's page in a while.. they have some good deals going on now.. |
| 13:38.05 | many | . o o( i.e. would i need to set faxdetect on? ) |
| 13:39.08 | astoria | is asterlink still pretty fast about getting stuff provisioned? nufone is taking forever and a century.. |
| 13:40.01 | dreamler | so , any1 know - how to control channel ( without using manager api , only in AGI ) after executing DIAL ? |
| 13:40.30 | ManxPower | dreamler, You can't. |
| 13:40.51 | ManxPower | An AGi CAN USE THE MANGER INTERFACE. |
| 13:40.57 | ManxPower | damn caps lock |
| 13:41.25 | dreamler | ManxPower: so even if i'll set macro in DIAL - no chance ? |
| 13:42.04 | ManxPower | dreamler, when a dial happens control is not returned to the dialplan until the call ends. |
| 13:42.26 | _T3_ | to do what dreamler |
| 13:42.38 | _T3_ | hi everyboody! |
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| 13:44.01 | iCEBrkr | Well, this is kinda interesting.. When using Read() and you don't press a key, the extension continues to execute instead of jumping to t (time out) |
| 13:44.13 | dreamler | _T3_: the task is simple , i aint know at the beginning of the call - max allowed time for it , so need to control my own timer and hangup at some criteria ( sorry for poor eng ) |
| 13:44.32 | iCEBrkr | Or is t only hit when someone starts to key in a response and then waits to long in between key presses? |
| 13:45.07 | iCEBrkr | dreamler: That's better english than some of the people that live around me :P |
| 13:45.18 | Lathos42 | astoria: TechTown looks pretty interesting |
| 13:45.18 | _T3_ | why you just save in a global the name of the channel, and execute a macro after dial command |
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| 13:45.59 | docE | Good morning all |
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| 13:46.13 | dreamler | _T3_: so after DIAL - catch connect ... it puts control to Macro specified ? |
| 13:46.13 | Laerte | hy |
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| 13:46.34 | _T3_ | yes |
| 13:47.11 | _T3_ | yeah, but the name of channel change, that why you must have the channel id in some place |
| 13:47.23 | astoria | Lathos42: yeah, I spoke with the managing director (Marlo Jenkins) last week.. It sounds really cool, I'm actually pretty excited about it... |
| 13:47.39 | dreamler | _T3_: ok then , second quest. if chan hangup in macro execution ? |
| 13:48.41 | _T3_ | good one, the control is back to the context that originating the call.. |
| 13:49.29 | _T3_ | remember every call you do is a new thread |
| 13:49.31 | Holos | Anyone have experience with T1 pass through? I have a sangoma A102 that has a bell PRI on one site and a Polycom Video conference setup on the other, when I dial out to another pri connection I get a DISCONNET "Cause: Wrong message (98), class = Protocol Error (6)" |
| 13:49.32 | dreamler | _T3_: so macro terminates - WHEN ? at its own end - or ? |
| 13:50.01 | _T3_ | when call hangup in any side |
| 13:50.29 | _T3_ | both |
| 13:50.57 | _T3_ | a macro is just a script that executes while a channel is active |
| 13:51.13 | iCEBrkr | Holos: Sorry, I haven't done any PRI work with Asterisk yet. :-/ |
| 13:51.18 | dreamler | _T3_: ok then , if macro == DeadAGI(myscript) ? :) just trying to figure it out |
| 13:51.27 | Lathos42 | astoria: I'd ask how much they're talking for the space, but since i've never looked into any office space, I wouldnt know what is a good price :) |
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| 13:51.56 | ]data[ | hi folks, any ideas how far off asterisk 1.2.0 final is? many showstoppers left? |
| 13:52.01 | astoria | Lathos42: ~400/month for a cubicle... |
| 13:52.31 | _T3_ | yeah |
| 13:52.33 | astoria | Lathos42: which seems high, but you alos get access to other facilities, like conference rooms and business start-up services. |
| 13:52.40 | _T3_ | but the macro is for internal use |
| 13:53.12 | Lathos42 | astoria: That's not too bad then when you consider the extras |
| 13:53.16 | _T3_ | and using thing like agi,php,etc.. gives the options to do things outside |
| 13:53.23 | dreamler | _T3_ : so no signals to macro for nice completition , just end of thread ? |
| 13:54.28 | astoria | Lathos42: no thats really good, and in some cases, they will 'incubate' your firm.. not sure exactly what that entails, but i suspect funding.. |
| 13:54.55 | _T3_ | if your channels works well, with busy, hanhuo detection you never will have open lines and when the call finish the macro ends too |
| 13:55.05 | ManxPower | OK, which one of have been buying up all the Adtran channel banks on eBay? |
| 13:55.22 | dreamler | _T3_: so another one daemon - cotrolling chans over manager api - real working solution :( |
| 13:56.38 | _T3_ | is a good information center, until 1.0.9 |
| 13:56.41 | dreamler | _T3_: i have to bill 1 (talked) minute - in real time |
| 13:56.48 | _T3_ | i dont know at 1.2 |
| 13:57.49 | _T3_ | but yeah, all the gui for asterisk are based inthe manager api, for now is the only way to know whats happening |
| 13:58.02 | _T3_ | and to make some work with channels |
| 13:58.37 | dreamler | _T3_: ok thx , lets make some prototypes :) l8r |
| 13:59.00 | _T3_ | cdr make refences to call time and billtime |
| 13:59.38 | _T3_ | but that thing is real only if your cards and systems detect when the call began and the hangup |
| 14:00.06 | dreamler | _T3_: i need real time money movement , per minute basis |
| 14:00.13 | Lathos42 | astoria: Hopefully they wont want a piece of your company if they "incubate" it |
| 14:00.42 | _T3_ | hmmmmm |
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| 14:01.10 | _T3_ | its a lot of work |
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| 14:01.30 | astoria | Lathos42: no, I don't think thats their intent.. I think they really just want to give incentives for hi-tech firms to move into downtown/midtown detroit. |
| 14:01.34 | dreamler | _T3_: yeah :( and manager api seems .. only working solution - at this moment :( |
| 14:01.37 | _T3_ | because you must ask every time for actual call with manager api |
| 14:01.38 | astoria | Lathos42: they can't make cars forever... |
| 14:02.16 | dreamler | _T3_: as i said .. independent daemon :( |
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| 14:02.54 | _T3_ | yeah good luck |
| 14:03.08 | dreamler | _t3_: thx |
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| 14:03.51 | _T3_ | anybody knows how to change dsp.c to answer detection???? |
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| 14:05.38 | Lathos42 | astoria: That's very true.. plus arent most of the auto companies mostly moved out of detroit and into the suburbs? |
| 14:06.12 | many | hrm. the fax which is connected to the wildcard 4x FXO does shows permanent offhook when in fxo_ks |
| 14:06.41 | astoria | Lathos42: yeah, kind of.. there is still alot of automotive stuff in the city though.. I mean, GM's headquarters are in the rencen. |
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| 14:17.43 | psk | hi all!what about multiple faxing with spandsp? i can tx only a page |
| 14:18.30 | many | Actual Hookstate: Offhook |
| 14:18.32 | many | hrmhrm. |
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| 14:18.56 | vtsherwood | greets alkl |
| 14:19.00 | lehel | why all my extensions returns BUSY? however they aren't |
| 14:19.17 | ManxPower | lehel, Look at the value of DIALSTATUS |
| 14:19.25 | iCEBrkr | lehel: set verbose 4 at the CLI |
| 14:19.31 | lehel | ManxPower = BUSY |
| 14:19.42 | lehel | but why?.. |
| 14:19.46 | ManxPower | If a phone is not registered dial will jump to n+101 if it exists, even if the device is simply not registered. |
| 14:19.53 | vtsherwood | anyone out there care to tell me where I set the global_enabledrpid setting in the CVS-HEAD? |
| 14:19.58 | ManxPower | lehel, I have never seen that problem before. |
| 14:19.59 | vtsherwood | is it in source or in sip.conf |
| 14:20.11 | lehel | me neither |
| 14:20.29 | ManxPower | lehel, What device are you trying to dial? |
| 14:20.35 | lehel | iax |
| 14:20.35 | ManxPower | What is the console message? |
| 14:20.44 | lehel | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.58 | lehel | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.00 | ManxPower | lehel, If the call is rejected by the destination then it will be "BUSY" |
| 14:21.25 | ManxPower | lehel, Sorry, I can't help you with AMP / A@H |
| 14:21.57 | Dr_Ray | who is loud stroud and why do I give any kind of damn that he is setting up an asterisk blog? |
| 14:22.42 | iCEBrkr | cuz 'blogging' is cool man. |
| 14:23.02 | astoria | DUDE. blogging is sooo 2004. It's all about vblogs now. |
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| 14:23.06 | Ariel_ | lehel, if you don't have the rights setup correctly the agi will return busy. |
| 14:23.18 | iCEBrkr | astoria: haha, you dial in and hear the poor saps sob story?!?! |
| 14:23.31 | iCEBrkr | Dr_Ray: LOL oh, THAT guy. |
| 14:23.46 | Dr_Ray | yes, that guy |
| 14:23.48 | Dr_Ray | :) |
| 14:24.17 | astoria | iCEBrkr: huh?? |
| 14:24.20 | iCEBrkr | Ahh yes, I recall back in 1996 or so when he was bitching about the nick on EFNet. |
| 14:24.30 | iCEBrkr | astoria: vblog? |
| 14:24.38 | astoria | iCEBrkr: video blog! |
| 14:24.44 | iCEBrkr | astoria: That's even worse. |
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| 14:25.19 | astoria | iCEBrkr: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4056349448602781736&q=emo |
| 14:25.37 | astoria | thats the blogfuture! |
| 14:25.41 | iCEBrkr | Please. no.. Don't make me.. you can't make me! I won't click! I WON'T CLICK |
| 14:25.55 | astoria | you have to watch it :) |
| 14:26.22 | mutilator | she needs to get naked while she does it.. then i'll start goin to blogs.. |
| 14:26.46 | vtsherwood | anyone? enablerpid? |
| 14:26.46 | iCEBrkr | Ok, I've had enough |
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| 14:26.56 | mutilator | was she trying to burn her face? |
| 14:27.02 | iCEBrkr | mutilator: Naked News? |
| 14:27.08 | astoria | no no, she's EMO! |
| 14:27.14 | astoria | and vblogging her sorrow.. |
| 14:27.16 | iCEBrkr | She's no Emo |
| 14:27.16 | mutilator | she wasn't crying tho.. |
| 14:27.26 | iCEBrkr | err not |
| 14:27.36 | mutilator | or scratching her arms with forks |
| 14:27.43 | iCEBrkr | That's pretty pathetic |
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| 14:28.16 | mutilator | back to work |
| 14:28.34 | nfi|ermes | i've just installed asterisk for the seocnd time. I have copied my old extensions.conf and extensions_additional.conf in /etc/asterisk . I can log in from my clients, so the extensions exist, but i don t see them in the web gui |
| 14:28.49 | Dr_Ray | web gui? |
| 14:28.53 | mutilator | web gui? |
| 14:28.57 | loud | aah again. |
| 14:29.07 | astoria | I think * gui is the worst thing to happen to this channel :) |
| 14:29.19 | nfi|ermes | :| |
| 14:29.29 | nfi|ermes | amp |
| 14:29.59 | darkskiez | i hate amp |
| 14:30.00 | mutilator | i've carried my same config from CVS of the beginning of this year and it's worked fine |
| 14:30.16 | mutilator | i just updated my dialplan a week or so ago to handle calls better but thats it |
| 14:30.39 | iCEBrkr | AMP is bloatware. |
| 14:30.41 | astoria | I wonder how I can combine Asterisk and Vblogs.... |
| 14:30.56 | astoria | I've already combined Asterisk and Drunkpeople... |
| 14:30.56 | mutilator | plz to not blog anymore |
| 14:31.10 | iCEBrkr | astoria: you have a drunkdial page too? |
| 14:31.18 | astoria | iCEBrkr: www.drunkdial.org |
| 14:31.24 | iCEBrkr | lol |
| 14:31.26 | astoria | who else has one? |
| 14:31.33 | frenzy | im looking for calling card DIDs |
| 14:31.36 | iCEBrkr | http://www.cyberdyne.org/v/ |
| 14:31.44 | frenzy | DIDs with multiple channels |
| 14:31.51 | iCEBrkr | astoria: that's my OLD drunkdial page. |
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| 14:31.56 | frenzy | anyone ? |
| 14:32.01 | bjohnson | astoria: amp has it's own channel |
| 14:32.04 | astoria | iCEBrkr: ha ha.. yay! it's good fun. |
| 14:32.18 | mutilator | yeh the radio station here has a drunk dial |
| 14:32.24 | mutilator | fun listenin to people |
| 14:32.30 | iCEBrkr | astoria: haha! |
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| 14:32.35 | astoria | mutilator: i've seen lots of radio stations have that.. i wish i had tried to sell this to them years ago.. |
| 14:32.40 | lmergen | hello... i |
| 14:32.49 | astoria | all they use is just a voicemail line though.. |
| 14:33.03 | mutilator | ya |
| 14:33.32 | astoria | I should advertise my site to all the program directors at local radio stations. |
| 14:33.33 | lmergen | i'm wondering: am i that unfamilliar with the whole pbx terminology, or is installing and configuring a simply serial (ttySx) modem under asterisk a topic that's not really covered by the asterisk docs (like the asterisk handbook) ? |
| 14:33.45 | *** join/#asterisk Uther_P (n=uther_p@66.180.120.82) |
| 14:33.54 | astoria | lmergen: what are you using it for? why are you using asteriK? |
| 14:33.58 | astoria | asterisk? |
| 14:34.00 | mutilator | er |
| 14:34.08 | mutilator | yea what he said |
| 14:34.38 | astoria | lmergen: if you want to dial out with a serial port use something like minicom |
| 14:34.41 | nfi|ermes | i have understood something about web guis |
| 14:34.53 | iCEBrkr | nfi|ermes: They all suck? |
| 14:34.58 | nfi|ermes | yes |
| 14:35.00 | iCEBrkr | :) |
| 14:35.00 | lmergen | astoria, i'm trying to implement an automated call computer which notifies our customers with a pre-recorded message, and then awaits input from the user (press 1 for xxx, press 2 for xxx, etc) |
| 14:35.11 | iCEBrkr | nfi|ermes: That's because a geek/programmer designed it. |
| 14:35.24 | astoria | lmergen: and why are you using a serial port? |
| 14:35.30 | nfi|ermes | like for asterisk ?? :D |
| 14:35.34 | Dr_Ray | well, by the time you could effectivly use a web GUI to solve problems with asterisk, you already know enough to see why they are not needed |
| 14:35.40 | lmergen | astoria, because the server i'm using only has COM ports available |
| 14:35.44 | ManxPower | lmergen, that's not going to work if you use analog ports. |
| 14:35.44 | astoria | lmergen: you can't use a standard modem.. you need one that is FXO.. |
| 14:35.59 | iCEBrkr | Dr_Ray: The problem is, non-geeky people need to be able to add/remove extensions and the like. |
| 14:36.11 | IronHelix | yeah you cant send voice data over a serial port easily |
| 14:36.12 | lmergen | oh that's too bad |
| 14:36.19 | IronHelix | all voice modems that i've seen are PCI |
| 14:36.30 | IronHelix | you need a digium board of some kind |
| 14:36.31 | Dr_Ray | icebrker - then write a perl tool |
| 14:36.31 | nfi|ermes | now i should understand the best way to backup and restore asterisk confgiuration, dialplan, sounds, ecc |
| 14:36.47 | astoria | tar cvf backup.tar /etc/asterisk :) |
| 14:36.48 | nfi|ermes | ,voicemail.. |
| 14:36.50 | iCEBrkr | Dr_Ray: Non-geeky people don't have shell accounts :P |
| 14:36.51 | ManxPower | IronHelix, Each voice modem does it slightly differently. It can be done, if you want to write the kenrnel driver and Asterisk driver. |
| 14:36.53 | *** join/#asterisk brookshire (n=pfffft@gateway.digium.com) |
| 14:37.03 | nfi|ermes | astoria,i've done |
| 14:37.04 | Dr_Ray | we have a cgi page that lets people edit extensions, but it is not a gui to do everything.. |
| 14:37.10 | lmergen | what exactly are FX0 modems ? modems that are capable of sending voice data ? |
| 14:37.10 | IronHelix | not over serial... |
| 14:37.17 | ManxPower | In Asterisk, analog ports are considered "answered" as soon the the call is dialed. |
| 14:37.20 | nfi|ermes | but i should also backup sounds, voicemail,ecc |
| 14:37.29 | astoria | lmergen: modems that can talk with the POTS line correctly :) |
| 14:37.39 | iCEBrkr | Dr_Ray: It can be done.. But you'll never get an interface that allows you to effectively edit dial plans. |
| 14:37.44 | ManxPower | lmergen, for the most part FXO ports are voice interface ports for connecting to a phone line. |
| 14:37.46 | ManxPower | ~fxofxs |
| 14:37.48 | jbot | well, fxofxs is An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage. |
| 14:37.49 | IronHelix | imergen- fxo (o not zero) is a type of port, an fxo port connects to a phone line, an fxs port connects to a normal phone and sends battery/ring voltage |
| 14:37.52 | astoria | nfi|ermes: backup /var/lib/asterisk too |
| 14:38.02 | *** part/#asterisk vtsherwood (n=vtsherwo@cpe-24-26-150-142.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 14:38.03 | Dr_Ray | icebrkr - of course not :) |
| 14:38.12 | iCEBrkr | Dr_Ray: Which is typical for phone systems in general. There's always going to be some programming involved. But a front-end to maintain extensions/voicemail should be cake. |
| 14:38.24 | lmergen | ok, i understand i really miss a lot of terminology knowledge here... let me look all that up :) |
| 14:38.54 | iCEBrkr | lmergen: delete your zmodem program cuz this isn't the BBS age anymore :P |
| 14:38.57 | astoria | lmergen: i study telecommunications at a big ten school and you only learn the terminology from hands-on experience. |
| 14:38.57 | IronHelix | i would suggest http://www.voip-info.org but they seem to be down atm |
| 14:39.17 | nfi|ermes | voip-info is down today ?! |
| 14:39.24 | iCEBrkr | OH NOEZ! |
| 14:39.27 | syle | works for me |
| 14:39.34 | IronHelix | hunh |
| 14:39.38 | Dr_Ray | a day like any other |
| 14:39.38 | IronHelix | what ip does it resolve to? |
| 14:39.40 | nfi|ermes | for me not |
| 14:39.41 | *** join/#asterisk spiekey (n=kvirc@p549D1B46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:39.43 | spiekey | hello! |
| 14:39.47 | IronHelix | i get 66.151.54.101 |
| 14:39.54 | IronHelix | hi spiekey |
| 14:40.06 | *** join/#asterisk Qwell (n=north@pool-71-110-79-100.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 14:40.13 | iCEBrkr | voip-info times out for me. |
| 14:40.19 | IronHelix | same |
| 14:40.22 | Holos | iCEBrkr: same |
| 14:40.28 | frenzy | same |
| 14:40.28 | nfi|ermes | same |
| 14:40.31 | lmergen | astoria, i can understand that... but still, i'm really new to the whole "scene" so it's merely a fact that i'm missing a lot of knowledge... and well, i can better look up the most i can :) |
| 14:40.31 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 14:40.43 | syle | you from NA? |
| 14:40.45 | lmergen | yeah, for 3 hours already (voip-info) at least |
| 14:40.50 | nfi|ermes | i can t reach either 66.151.54.101 |
| 14:41.16 | spiekey | i have a setup like: ISDN/NTBA --> Asterisk with octobri -->TA-Analog-Converter |
| 14:41.16 | syle | well it works for me |
| 14:41.24 | syle | not sure where you guys are from |
| 14:41.33 | nfi|ermes | italy :| |
| 14:41.35 | spiekey | how do i have to jumper my octbri card? i mean whats TE and whats NT? |
| 14:41.39 | nfi|ermes | nothing works fine in italy |
| 14:41.40 | mutilator | yea i emailed the voip-info guy |
| 14:41.41 | Holos | I'm from Canada, Tracer routes stop @ dnvrco1wcx2-pos3-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.106.37] |
| 14:41.50 | frenzy | can smeone help me out.. |
| 14:41.53 | syle | i'm in canada works for me |
| 14:41.55 | lmergen | ok, so let me get this straight... the best thing i can do right now is tell my employer to buy me a digium modem, since otherwise the chance is pretty high that i'm gonna get a modem that doesn't work with asterisk either ? |
| 14:41.56 | mutilator | and he said he wouldn't mirror cause the site wouldn't rsync very well |
| 14:42.02 | frenzy | am looking for DIDs with multiple chanels |
| 14:42.02 | mutilator | whatever.. *shrug* |
| 14:42.06 | frenzy | for calling card |
| 14:42.11 | Holos | syle: can you run a traceroute to it and msg it to me? |
| 14:42.16 | frenzy | Non-toll free |
| 14:42.17 | iCEBrkr | lmergen: It'd learn more before you get in over your head. |
| 14:42.28 | Dr_Ray | lmergen - buy the dev kit |
| 14:42.37 | mutilator | over your head is the best place to be |
| 14:42.38 | nfi|ermes | syle, set up an open proxy at your home !! :D |
| 14:42.40 | IronHelix | lmergen- its not a modem, its a telephony board. listen to ceb, figure out exactly what you need and are going to do first |
| 14:42.46 | IronHelix | get a free DID from www.ipkall.com |
| 14:42.49 | iCEBrkr | mutilator: Sounds like a cop-out to me.. Wiki's have built-in sync features. |
| 14:42.50 | IronHelix | (did = phone number) |
| 14:42.52 | nfi|ermes | i m just coming :D |
| 14:42.53 | lmergen | iCEBrkr, yeah, but my employer said "that's what i want", so it's his choice... he heard some company was using it ( telecom discounter ), and now he got asterisk all over his head |
| 14:42.57 | mutilator | iCEBrkr: ya i kno |
| 14:43.02 | IronHelix | then make the thing |
| 14:43.10 | spiekey | whats the diffrent between NT and TE? |
| 14:43.26 | iCEBrkr | lmergen: Well, if he's willing to shell out the $$$ for something you may not get working.. Go for it.. |
| 14:43.29 | IronHelix | lmergen then you do want a digium board, TDMxxB |
| 14:43.46 | mutilator | so i said o well.. |
| 14:43.52 | Dr_Ray | lmergen - get the dev kit from digium, they will help yoou get it working |
| 14:44.06 | mutilator | he said something about upgrading in the near future.. but this was like 2 months ago i emailed him |
| 14:44.07 | brookshire | lmergen: and it's not a modem.. |
| 14:44.15 | syle | i would but still haven;t figured out why traceroute stops at my router on my linux machines yet tracert on my windows machine don;t have a problem |
| 14:44.16 | IronHelix | check otu this http://www.voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=99_103 you want the ones with FXO ports, get as many ports as you have lines to the server, and remember you can always upgrade later to full 4 ports |
| 14:44.51 | IronHelix | modem = modulator - demodulator, sends data over phone lines as tones. You don't want a modem, you want a way of getting voice data off the line. |
| 14:45.57 | frenzy | IronHelix: not looking for a free DID |
| 14:46.21 | IronHelix | i meant that for lmergen |
| 14:46.25 | IronHelix | to play with |
| 14:46.55 | frenzy | ohy |
| 14:47.00 | IronHelix | hehe sorry |
| 14:47.05 | ManxPower | syle, Do you have a SIPura or a Linksys router/ |
| 14:47.07 | lmergen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.27 | IronHelix | no prob, although for whatr you want to try a did is of limited use |
| 14:47.57 | IronHelix | a good way to test stuff pre-buying-stuff is setup the * server with what you want |
| 14:48.07 | IronHelix | configure a SIP channel and get a copy of x-lite softphone |
| 14:48.10 | IronHelix | make sure that works |
| 14:48.17 | IronHelix | then setup your dial out thingy to call the sip channel |
| 14:48.28 | IronHelix | so you can demonstrate the functionality of calling, getting the menu, etc |
| 14:48.38 | IronHelix | without spending any actual money |
| 14:52.23 | *** join/#asterisk Gunnar (n=gunnar@34.80-203-209.nextgentel.com) |
| 14:52.43 | lmergen | IronHelix, well, the thing is, i just got told today that configuring asterisk SIP behind a NAT (we're behind a router/firewall) is pretty difficult, and if it was only for testing purposes, i would hate to waste a lot of time on it just to test it, when i can complete discard it afterwards |
| 14:53.15 | IronHelix | it can be a pain but not for what im talking about |
| 14:53.16 | lmergen | i was busy setting that up last week, and calling works... but when the line is connected, there's no audio |
| 14:53.30 | iCEBrkr | lmergen: It's only difficult if you have clients outside your NAT |
| 14:53.32 | IronHelix | if both * and the softphone are behind the same NAT on the same network you dont have any problem |
| 14:53.34 | astoria | lmergen: it's not too bad. It's just kind of a pain in the ass.. |
| 14:53.55 | IronHelix | i meant setup sip to test your dialout applicaiton |
| 14:54.05 | lmergen | nop, the servers are inside its own NAT :/ |
| 14:54.19 | lmergen | (they're behind a different internet connection than the workstations) |
| 14:54.24 | IronHelix | ah |
| 14:54.30 | IronHelix | no fun :( |
| 14:54.37 | lmergen | no fun indeed |
| 14:55.04 | IronHelix | what hardware do you have now to dial etc |
| 14:55.07 | lmergen | and the SIP provider i'm using is at the outside world too, but i imagine that shouldn't be a problem |
| 14:55.26 | IronHelix | can you forward ports? |
| 14:55.37 | lmergen | probably, yes |
| 14:55.44 | *** join/#asterisk nfi|ermes (n=ermsewrk@217.220.121.62) |
| 14:55.45 | IronHelix | look in /etc/asterisk/rtp.conf, set a range of ports there and forward them UDP |
| 14:55.53 | astoria | lmergen: you should try using an IAX provider. IAX navigates NAT much better. |
| 14:56.10 | nfi|ermes | Registration from 'XXXXXX YYYYYY <sip:39@172.31.40.30>' failed for '172.31.3.16' |
| 14:56.11 | lmergen | at the moment the router is configured according to the firewall rules on voip-info.org, which includes the real-time protocol forward (udp 10000 - 20000) |
| 14:56.31 | IronHelix | then in sip.conf go thru the general section, set externip and the things related to your internal network |
| 14:56.44 | IronHelix | that will help it properly set up rtp sessions |
| 14:57.02 | *** join/#asterisk toddf (n=toddf@ns0.fries.net) |
| 14:57.40 | lmergen | well, i've done all that as far as i know... at least, i assume fromdomain= under [general] in sip.conf is the domain that resolves into the same ip as externip= ? |
| 14:58.05 | nwhit | i recently upgraded to cvs head and I am getting a strange message: cdr_addon_mysql.c:166 mysql_log: cdr_mysql: Retried to connect fives times, giving up. |
| 14:58.06 | nwhit | But it is still posting cdr to the database |
| 14:58.09 | nwhit | any ideas? |
| 14:58.09 | IronHelix | no |
| 14:58.11 | IronHelix | very different |
| 14:58.16 | *** join/#asterisk RussC (n=face@216.157.205.211) |
| 14:58.18 | lmergen | uhoh :) |
| 14:58.24 | IronHelix | sip dials phonenumber@host |
| 14:58.27 | *** join/#asterisk bob_too (n=chris@rrcs-24-153-179-246.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 14:58.28 | RussC | Hello |
| 14:58.33 | IronHelix | fromdomain is the @host in your caller id |
| 14:58.47 | IronHelix | so if you call me@myserver it will say yourcallerid@whatyouputinfromdomain |
| 14:58.51 | RussC | I have a few brief questions about waht flavor of linux to use |
| 14:59.11 | IronHelix | externip has to be the external IP address of your network |
| 14:59.20 | IronHelix | i dont think it supports dns but i could be wrong on that |
| 14:59.23 | astoria | RussC: it really doesn't matter that much.. Just use the one you are comfortable with.. |
| 15:00.59 | lmergen | hmmmm, i'm not sure if i understand that fromdomain then... when i dial a certain number using DIAX for example, it for example says "Executing Dial("IAX2/test@test/2", "SIP/0031619620839@discount-out") in new stack" in debug mode... would "test" by my fromdomain ? |
| 15:01.00 | RussC | Astoria: thank you, I was just wondering if anyone had found one more easy to install and configure for a large corprate envoroment |
| 15:01.13 | *** join/#asterisk Striker`Work (n=striker@lunar-linux/developer/pdpc.bronze.striker) |
| 15:01.29 | IronHelix | iax and sip are two very different things |
| 15:01.35 | astoria | RussC: No, but if you're installing this in a large corporate environment, asking on an IRC channel is not the best way to get advise.. You may want to hire a consultant. |
| 15:01.54 | lmergen | yeah, i understand they're both different protocols to enable internet telephony |
| 15:02.48 | *** part/#asterisk frenzy (n=frenzy@193.220.82.108) |
| 15:02.52 | lmergen | would "fromdomain=" be the domain of my SIP provider then ? or is "domain" in this context completely unrelated to internet domain names ? |
| 15:03.05 | IronHelix | its the domain of YOUR sip server |
| 15:03.14 | IronHelix | you can leave it blank and it will use 'asterisk' or your IP address |
| 15:03.21 | RussC | Astoria: Thank you, we are just using it to see if it is something that would work for us, I have been using linux for about 3 years now so I know enogh to get a small pbx installed and configured. |
| 15:03.23 | lmergen | ahhhh ok |
| 15:03.42 | lmergen | so it's the same domain as the server's known by in the NAT? |
| 15:03.49 | *** join/#asterisk file (n=jcolp@mctnnbsa31w-142166090186.nb.aliant.net) |
| 15:04.10 | IronHelix | say you call 16666664355, from a phone on your system with caller id of 1234, and your fromdomain is set to mydomain.com. the call goes from 1234@mydomain.com to 16666664355@yourvoipprovider.com |
| 15:04.25 | IronHelix | lmer it can be |
| 15:05.00 | lmergen | ok, i think i understand... so it's merely setting a name for the asterisk server, rather than setting a name which will be used by the asterisk server |
| 15:05.06 | IronHelix | it doesnt really have to resolve to anything, although doing so makes caller id work better when calling purely sip based people (no pstn) |
| 15:05.24 | IronHelix | right, setting a domain for everybody in the * server |
| 15:05.48 | lmergen | ok, well, then i don't understand what's wrong with my SIP configuration ;) |
| 15:06.00 | IronHelix | you need to set externip and localnet |
| 15:06.10 | ManxPower | I have never needed to use fromdomain- |
| 15:06.18 | lmergen | i have that, those values are correct |
| 15:06.55 | IronHelix | imergen can you call into the * server? |
| 15:07.00 | IronHelix | or does your provider give you a did |
| 15:07.03 | lmergen | well, i can register, i can call |
| 15:07.13 | lmergen | i've current bound "1234" to my mobile phone number using the SIP provider |
| 15:07.15 | lmergen | it dials |
| 15:07.17 | lmergen | my phone rings |
| 15:07.20 | lmergen | i answer |
| 15:07.32 | lmergen | the client that is connected to asterisk recognises it |
| 15:07.38 | lmergen | but there's no audio during conversation |
| 15:07.41 | lmergen | simply no sound |
| 15:07.42 | lmergen | dead |
| 15:07.55 | ManxPower | lmergen, no audio is normally a NAt problem |
| 15:08.03 | IronHelix | yeah nat/rtp related |
| 15:08.08 | IronHelix | annoying stuff too |
| 15:08.27 | IronHelix | if you call from the cell phone into the * box (is this possible with how its setup?) can you get either way audio then? |
| 15:08.28 | Beirdo | hmmmm |
| 15:08.39 | *** join/#asterisk nfi|ermes (n=ermsewrk@217.220.121.62) |
| 15:08.40 | ManxPower | Or you have nat=yes in sip.conf AND theX-lite NAT options enabled |
| 15:09.04 | IronHelix | i dont think he has xlite setup, i think he just has a sip provider and thats it |
| 15:09.23 | lmergen | well, my network administrator once again ensured me the port forwards are ok |
| 15:09.33 | lmergen | ManxPower, not that i know of, how can i confirm that ? |
| 15:09.37 | ManxPower | IronHelix, an external SIP provider and NAT. Nothing quite like starting out with the hardest setup to make work right |
| 15:09.45 | IronHelix | :D |
| 15:09.47 | lmergen | IronHelix, yes, well, that was my intention at least ;) |
| 15:10.02 | ManxPower | lmergen, what ports does you admin have forwarded? |
| 15:10.06 | lmergen | ManxPower, well, as far as i know, that's the only setup that will work for me at the moment |
| 15:10.46 | IronHelix | 10000 to 20000 manx |
| 15:10.53 | mmlj4 | hey, "pinged out" :-) |
| 15:10.59 | ManxPower | IronHelix, TCP or UDP? |
| 15:11.02 | IronHelix | udp |
| 15:11.13 | IronHelix | sounded like he had that setup ok |
| 15:11.27 | ManxPower | It won't work unless the remote SIP provider is ALSO using ports 10000 - 20000 |
| 15:11.28 | lmergen | ManxPower, the same rules as provided by voip-info.org |
| 15:11.38 | ManxPower | and of course, he has port 5060 UDP forwarded too |
| 15:11.39 | lmergen | these ones: http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:1_s_1uYmpJAJ:www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php%3Fpage%3DAsterisk%2Bfirewall%2Brules+voip-info+asterisk+firewall+rules&hl=nl&client=firefox-a |
| 15:12.01 | ManxPower | lmergen, you cannot control the ports the far side uses. |
| 15:12.26 | ManxPower | lmergen, and you have localnet= and externip= in sip.conf? |
| 15:12.48 | ManxPower | lmergen, or you can just avoid all the hassle and use a provider that supports IAX2 |
| 15:12.58 | IronHelix | why would the other side matter? its nat not a full rules based firewall... as long as the listening sip and udp ports on his side are forwarded he should be ok... |
| 15:13.29 | ManxPower | IronHelix, because each direction of an RTP stream is TOTALLY DIFFERENt. |
| 15:13.33 | iCEBrkr | XLite is such a piece of shit |
| 15:13.34 | lmergen | ManxPower, aha, you mean that my SIP provider has to change his firewall rules too ? why would that be ? |
| 15:13.45 | IronHelix | no i know each direction is different |
| 15:13.46 | iCEBrkr | It's configuration interface sucks |
| 15:14.00 | IronHelix | but unless the firewall is blocking outbound connections (im assuming it isnt) |
| 15:14.06 | mmlj4 | lmergen: i'd bet that your provider had that configured already |
| 15:14.15 | IronHelix | then he can always rules or not connect from any local port to any provider port |
| 15:14.26 | ManxPower | IronHelix, so if the provider uses ports 16834 - 32768 (a common range) then forwarding UDP ports 10000-20000 on his firewall isn't going to do any good. |
| 15:14.49 | ManxPower | since there's no outgoing stream of packets associated with those ports. |
| 15:15.02 | IronHelix | no that will be fine because in rtp negotiation it will decide to use 10000-20000 on his side, and it can connect provider port 32768 to his port 10500 |
| 15:15.40 | IronHelix | just like web browsing, the browser doesnt connect OUT from port 80 it uses a random port to connect to listening port 80 on the host side |
| 15:15.55 | ManxPower | IronHelix, that assumes the provider is using ports destination10000 - 20000 for the ITSP -> Asterisk stream |
| 15:16.18 | ManxPower | IronHelix, no, it's not like web browsing because both incoming and outgoing data happens in the same TCP stream |
| 15:16.31 | IronHelix | no it doesnt, doesnt matter what ports they are using as long as his firewall ignores and does not block any outgoing connections |
| 15:16.45 | IronHelix | rtp certainly doesnt need the same ports on each side of the connection, ie port 2000 MUSt connect to port 2000 |
| 15:16.54 | ManxPower | IronHelix, there is no outgoing connection associated with the incoming connection to his Asterisk server. |
| 15:16.59 | ManxPower | They are totally different. |
| 15:17.11 | IronHelix | true |
| 15:17.19 | lmergen | hmmmm |
| 15:17.22 | lmergen | i'm confused :) |
| 15:17.35 | IronHelix | hang on we'll understand each other in a few mins (i hope :) ) |
| 15:17.43 | ManxPower | It would be like a web browser connecting out to port 80- on the remote server and then the remote server connecting back to the web browser using a different connection |
| 15:18.25 | IronHelix | i have * setup behind nat, with a wierd selection of RTP ports. i set those ports in rtp.conf and forward them in the router. during RTP negotiation the rtp.conf file is used and it says 'i can listen to ports x thru y' and the provider knows to connect to those |
| 15:18.25 | *** join/#asterisk Nix (n=Nix@81.213.125.220) |
| 15:18.45 | ManxPower | IronHelix, one hopes that the provider listens. |
| 15:19.04 | IronHelix | it doesnt matter what ports are being used on the provider side as long as the provider knows to only use the mapped/forwarded ports on the user side, which they do listen to as its part of rtp port negotiation |
| 15:19.11 | ManxPower | But it's pretty easy to diagnose. run sip debug then make a call. If you see packets coming in from the provider then it's not a firewall issue. |
| 15:19.35 | ManxPower | IronHelix, that is correct. you are confident the provider is doing that. I am confident they are not. |
| 15:19.44 | *** join/#asterisk bweschke (n=bweschke@pcp09754274pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) |
| 15:19.51 | IronHelix | ah, we understand each other :) |
| 15:19.57 | lmergen | \o/ |
| 15:19.59 | lmergen | :) |
| 15:20.06 | ManxPower | or run tcpdump and tell it only to show packets with protocol UDP, source ip of the provider |
| 15:20.12 | IronHelix | i dont see why they wouldn't as doing so would be ignoring a huge part of the SIP/RTP standard |
| 15:20.38 | *** join/#asterisk tekati (n=captain@cpe-66-75-215-63.bak.res.rr.com) |
| 15:20.44 | nfi|ermes | Uhhuh. NMI received. Dazed and confused, but trying to continue |
| 15:20.44 | nfi|ermes | You probably have a hardware problem with your RAM chips |
| 15:21.01 | *** join/#asterisk SplasPood (i=jwb@ludicrous.paravolve.net) |
| 15:21.10 | ManxPower | nfi|ermes: You probably have a hardware problem with your RAM chips or a major conflict on the PCI BUS. |
| 15:21.11 | lmergen | ManxPower, i'll do that |
| 15:21.18 | *** join/#asterisk syzygyBSD (n=chatzill@66.226.228.204.cpe.speedyquick.net) |
| 15:21.21 | IronHelix | http://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/sip-implementors/2004-March/006313.html |
| 15:21.33 | IronHelix | each side offers its listening ports |
| 15:21.39 | ManxPower | nfi|ermes, or an incompatable motherboard. It's been covered on the mailing list archive. |
| 15:22.01 | *** join/#asterisk _T3_ (n=rposada@53.228.uio.satnet.net) |
| 15:22.56 | nfi|ermes | previous installation in the same hardware worked well |
| 15:23.06 | nfi|ermes | the only think changed is the hard disk |
| 15:24.20 | ManxPower | nfi|ermes, switched from IDe to SATA? |
| 15:24.50 | *** join/#asterisk Uther_P (n=uther_p@66.180.120.82) |
| 15:25.08 | nfi|ermes | always scasi |
| 15:25.10 | Striker`Work | can asterisk make automated outgoing calls with recorded messages? |
| 15:25.17 | nfi|ermes | scsi |
| 15:25.17 | ManxPower | Striker`Work, Yes. |
| 15:25.19 | bweschke | Striker: yes |
| 15:25.21 | Striker`Work | cool |
| 15:25.23 | IronHelix | yupp |
| 15:25.24 | ManxPower | see .call files in the mailing list archives. |
| 15:25.30 | Striker`Work | awesome |
| 15:25.34 | syle | good luck on callprogress detection |
| 15:25.47 | syle | on analog lines |
| 15:25.52 | ManxPower | Striker`Work, Asterisk has an anti-telemarketing protection. If it detects telemarketing calls it will burn out the BIOS on the motherboard. |
| 15:26.00 | Striker`Work | lol |
| 15:26.02 | bweschke | lol |
| 15:26.04 | ManxPower | so be careful with that. |
| 15:26.18 | Striker`Work | nah, this is automated calls to shops that haven't sent in their reports to our office ;P |
| 15:26.31 | Striker`Work | saying "give us our money, or else" |
| 15:26.40 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: hahaha |
| 15:26.40 | ManxPower | syle, I have a solution to that. |
| 15:26.46 | IronHelix | it better be *punches hand a few times* |
| 15:26.55 | Striker`Work | lol |
| 15:27.00 | Striker`Work | my boss told me to research it |
| 15:27.02 | ManxPower | As soon as the call is dialed, play a message to make them press something to continue. |
| 15:27.05 | Striker`Work | so i is |
| 15:27.17 | IronHelix | yeah thats easy to do |
| 15:27.33 | *** join/#asterisk XTR-II (n=xtr@staff-nat.netnation.com) |
| 15:27.36 | ManxPower | That's important anyway in case the call gets to voicemail |
| 15:27.36 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: When I was testing callprogress on my analog line, I didn't have any problems. *Shrug* |
| 15:27.39 | *** join/#asterisk Luhiwu (n=marsosa@200.63.89.243) |
| 15:27.41 | astoria | Striker`Work: do you work for a union? or a fund office? |
| 15:27.57 | *** join/#asterisk ovanoide (n=RobertoO@host205-72.pool8174.interbusiness.it) |
| 15:27.58 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: Like it knew when the person answered/didn't answer/busy |
| 15:28.05 | iCEBrkr | Probably wasn't reliable. |
| 15:28.12 | ovanoide | salve |
| 15:28.14 | ovanoide | hello |
| 15:28.18 | IronHelix | hi |
| 15:28.20 | ovanoide | can anyone help me ? |
| 15:28.26 | ovanoide | I have to do that ? |
| 15:28.31 | Luhiwu | hello all, anyone can help me with a dtmf problem between asterisk and a Cisco? if i put dtmfmode=rfc2833 i get some digits dupe, and if i put dtmfmode=info i get no dtmf |
| 15:28.32 | ovanoide | : |
| 15:28.34 | IronHelix | nobody can help you. |
| 15:28.38 | IronHelix | you are beyond help |
| 15:28.40 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 15:28.40 | IronHelix | but we will try :) |
| 15:28.41 | astoria | we're all busy. please leave a message. |
| 15:28.42 | syle | enabling callprogress detection on my box actually caused false hangups while i was talking to people |
| 15:28.51 | *** join/#asterisk wunderkin (i=kev@12-219-162-233.client.mchsi.com) |
| 15:29.06 | iCEBrkr | syle: I guess I got luck with my cheapo FXO card |
| 15:29.45 | szer | bye |
| 15:29.45 | ovanoide | I have to configure call transfer |
| 15:29.46 | *** join/#asterisk msw (n=msw@rdu-nat.rpath.com) |
| 15:29.46 | ovanoide | A is outside the pbx |
| 15:29.46 | ovanoide | A calls B |
| 15:29.46 | Striker`Work | astoria: we write software for transmission shops |
| 15:29.46 | syle | well i got a rhino channel bank comming , going to try it again then lol |
| 15:29.47 | iCEBrkr | ovanoide: Transfer() |
| 15:30.07 | ovanoide | iCEBrkr, i know it, but my question is another... |
| 15:30.17 | ovanoide | B wants to transfer call to C |
| 15:30.18 | ovanoide | BUT |
| 15:30.22 | syle | transmission shops |
| 15:30.26 | syle | like what? |
| 15:30.37 | syle | what kind of software i mean |
| 15:30.55 | astoria | LIke AAMCO? |
| 15:31.19 | ovanoide | A (the caller) must hear 15 seconds of music, even if the transfer process takes less than 15 seconds |
| 15:31.45 | syle | got some good mp3's? |
| 15:31.46 | iCEBrkr | ovanoide: You know how long 15 seconds is on the phone?? That's a long damn time. |
| 15:31.46 | syle | hehe |
| 15:31.50 | IronHelix | yeah |
| 15:31.57 | IronHelix | is this so b can talk to c? |
| 15:31.58 | ovanoide | it's as an example |
| 15:32.00 | lmergen | ManxPower, ok well, tcpdump shows a LOT of UDP traffic during call setup, but when the call is established, the UDP traffic stops |
| 15:32.05 | IronHelix | or do you just want a to hear 15sec of music |
| 15:32.12 | ManxPower | lmergen, Yup. |
| 15:32.21 | astoria | Consider using hardcore rap music.. Your calls may dissappeart! |
| 15:32.25 | ovanoide | i mean, when B transfer the call to c |
| 15:32.28 | astoria | disappeart->disappear. |
| 15:32.36 | iCEBrkr | ovanoide: Why do you need all that time? |
| 15:32.43 | iCEBrkr | ovanoide: why can't you just transfer? |
| 15:32.44 | ManxPower | why not just play MoH for 15 seconds for ALL calls to C |
| 15:32.47 | ovanoide | A must hear an advertising message, and then can be transferred to C |
| 15:32.52 | IronHelix | ahhh |
| 15:32.53 | IronHelix | ok |
| 15:32.53 | IronHelix | do this |
| 15:32.58 | IronHelix | record your message |
| 15:33.02 | ovanoide | ok |
| 15:33.03 | iCEBrkr | oh. advertising |
| 15:33.04 | ovanoide | then ? |
| 15:33.05 | lmergen | "17:28:48.768885 IP 213.61.187.156.36518 > 192.168.3.222.19592: UDP, length 172" and " |
| 15:33.06 | lmergen | 17:28:48.770373 IP 192.168.3.222.19592 > 213.61.187.156.36518: UDP, length 172 |
| 15:33.06 | lmergen | " are example entries |
| 15:33.09 | IronHelix | then make an extension pattern |
| 15:33.10 | syle | hmm i actually have a question: if you bridge iax-> iax -> iax or iax->iax-> sip , will asterisk kill the man in the middle for the RTP stream? |
| 15:33.25 | ovanoide | ok |
| 15:33.28 | ovanoide | then ? |
| 15:33.30 | syle | assuming no codec change, ulaw all the way through |
| 15:33.33 | iCEBrkr | Yeah, jam in a Playback() at the begining of C's extension |
| 15:33.35 | nfi|ermes | ManxPower |
| 15:33.35 | ManxPower | syle, Yes, if it can |
| 15:33.42 | IronHelix | like |
| 15:33.45 | IronHelix | make the extension |
| 15:33.54 | IronHelix | _*95. |
| 15:33.56 | nfi|ermes | i have zaphfc in the samwe interrupt of sym driver |
| 15:34.01 | IronHelix | that will match anything that starts wtih *95 |
| 15:34.01 | nfi|ermes | the scsi driver |
| 15:34.07 | ovanoide | ok, _*95 |
| 15:34.09 | ManxPower | nfi|ermes, that would be BAD BAD BAD |
| 15:34.12 | IronHelix | have it playback the file |
| 15:34.18 | nfi|ermes | :| |
| 15:34.21 | astoria | You guys wanna hear the funniest recorded message.. call 800-266-3377. It's the real BOFH.. :) |
| 15:34.22 | IronHelix | then dial ${EXTEN:3} |
| 15:34.38 | IronHelix | exten:3 is the extension that was dialed without the first three digits |
| 15:34.44 | ovanoide | something like : [advertising-transfer] |
| 15:34.50 | IronHelix | yup |
| 15:35.04 | syle | how much do you get charged a min on that number, i;ll spam it later if you like :) |
| 15:35.05 | ovanoide | exten => _*95,1,PlayBack(advertising) |
| 15:35.06 | IronHelix | so if you transfer to *951234, exten:3 will be 1234 |
| 15:35.07 | ovanoide | and then ? |
| 15:35.15 | iCEBrkr | syle: hehe |
| 15:35.40 | astoria | syle: it's toll free, adn I don't own it.. Its the City Conference LIne.. the guys message is great. |
| 15:35.42 | syle | free PORNO: 800-266-3377 |
| 15:35.48 | IronHelix | exten => _*95.,1,PlayBack(advertising) |
| 15:35.48 | IronHelix | exten => _*95.,2,Dial(${EXTEN:3},,r) |
| 15:35.49 | syle | post on all the newsgroups |
| 15:35.54 | iCEBrkr | for a in `ls -1 *.call`; do; cp $a /var/spool/asterisk/queue; |
| 15:36.13 | IronHelix | keep in mind- *95 needs a . after it |
| 15:36.15 | astoria | Haha.. That would be douchey.. I just thought it's a funny message how annoyed the guy is. |
| 15:36.20 | syle | bash logic yuk |
| 15:36.22 | syle | don;t you know perl |
| 15:36.27 | morale | what does error 484 mean when i try to dial out? |
| 15:36.33 | ovanoide | ok, . means everything |
| 15:36.38 | nfi|ermes | is possible to solve it , ManxPower ? |
| 15:36.54 | iCEBrkr | syle: Don't need the overhead of perl just to copy a bunch of call files :P |
| 15:37.00 | IronHelix | that makes it match anything that starts with *95. also, the context with the transfer thing must include any other contexts that will be transferred to |
| 15:37.11 | FuriousGeorge | anyone see how it would be possible using dundi to make one * server aware of the presence hits on another? |
| 15:37.18 | FuriousGeorge | hits=hints |
| 15:37.33 | Uther_P | FuriousGeorge, heh.. love the name |
| 15:37.35 | ManxPower | nfi|ermes, move the zap card |
| 15:37.38 | ManxPower | or the SCSI card |
| 15:37.43 | IronHelix | so if you are calling 1234 in [agents] then [advertising-transfer] will need to include=agents |
| 15:37.47 | FuriousGeorge | Uther_P: thanks |
| 15:37.53 | FuriousGeorge | ~FuriousGeorge |
| 15:37.54 | jbot | somebody said furiousgeorge was a knife fighting monkey known to hang out with The Man With the Metal Bat. |
| 15:37.58 | ovanoide | sorry ? |
| 15:37.58 | syle | your coping call files to a queue? what does that do ? i;ve only tested outgoing directory |
| 15:38.00 | ManxPower | IronHelix, don't use "r" option to dial |
| 15:38.07 | ManxPower | ~manxpower |
| 15:38.08 | jbot | rumour has it, manxpower is someone you should hire for a job in BelgiumNetherlands |
| 15:38.12 | iCEBrkr | syle: Spamming astoria 800 number :) |
| 15:38.24 | ovanoide | i didn't understand...why do i have to include agents |
| 15:38.24 | astoria | I don't own that number, you can spam it all you want :) |
| 15:38.26 | ovanoide | ? |
| 15:38.28 | nfi|ermes | fisically move or move it from the interrupt ? |
| 15:38.44 | *** join/#asterisk hellagony (n=egutierr@irc.americatelnet.com.pe) |
| 15:38.45 | astoria | ~astoria |
| 15:38.48 | IronHelix | because the call is now in [advertising-transfer]. extension 1234 doesnt exist in that context |
| 15:38.52 | ManxPower | nfi|ermes, that IS the usual way to change the interrupt for a card. some BIOSs let you do in the BIOS setup |
| 15:39.00 | ovanoide | aaah, right !! |
| 15:39.04 | IronHelix | you could just as easily put the *95 extension in the same context as the agents |
| 15:39.06 | IronHelix | and be happy |
| 15:39.11 | ovanoide | yes, yes |
| 15:39.14 | IronHelix | also, it doesnt have to be *95 |
| 15:39.18 | *** part/#asterisk zobia (n=laura_sh@218.6.242.212) |
| 15:39.31 | IronHelix | it can be whatever you want it to be, just make sure the :3 is changed to be whatever |
| 15:39.50 | iCEBrkr | astoria: I was kidding. |
| 15:40.00 | IronHelix | manx- why not ,,r? if you leave off the ,,r it doesnt play a ringing tone |
| 15:40.13 | astoria | iCEBrkr: did you call the number? |
| 15:40.13 | ovanoide | but this way the transfer isn't attended.... |
| 15:40.18 | ManxPower | IronHelix, of course it plays the ring tone. |
| 15:40.18 | iCEBrkr | astoria: naa |
| 15:40.20 | astoria | iCEBrkr: the guy is classic.. |
| 15:40.21 | Striker`Work | is it possible to configure asterisk to use a vonage service? |
| 15:40.24 | n3u7 | morning |
| 15:40.25 | ovanoide | i also need an attended transfer |
| 15:40.29 | ManxPower | It will always play a ringing sound if it thinks it should. |
| 15:40.41 | iCEBrkr | ovanoide: Good luck with that. |
| 15:40.47 | *** join/#asterisk DarthClue (i=user76@wsip-68-99-73-32.tu.ok.cox.net) |
| 15:40.48 | ovanoide | i need : 1) advertising message, then 2) attended transfer between B and C |
| 15:40.53 | IronHelix | i always include it, a few times it has thought it shouldnt |
| 15:40.59 | ManxPower | you should have an /etc/asterisk/indications.conf of course or it may not work no matter what. |
| 15:41.11 | ovanoide | IronHelix, what do you think about ? |
| 15:41.14 | IronHelix | hmmm |
| 15:41.17 | IronHelix | thats harder |
| 15:41.21 | n3u7 | the latest is:i586-suse-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl |
| 15:41.22 | n3u7 | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 15:41.22 | n3u7 | make: *** [asterisk] Error 1 |
| 15:41.23 | ManxPower | IronHelix, "r" causes problems in some situations and should almost NEVER be beeded. |
| 15:41.28 | *** join/#asterisk angler (n=angler@pdpc/sponsor/digium/angler) |
| 15:41.31 | n3u7 | i586-suse-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl |
| 15:41.32 | n3u7 | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 15:41.32 | n3u7 | make: *** [asterisk] Error 1 |
| 15:41.35 | IronHelix | striker- you need either a fxo port of some kind or asterisk softphone service |
| 15:41.45 | IronHelix | how so manx? |
| 15:42.01 | *** join/#asterisk Lee__ (n=Lee@ip67-153-86-42.z86-153-67.customer.algx.net) |
| 15:42.09 | IronHelix | i include it as a general principle cuz its never caused me trouble and not having it once did cause trouble |
| 15:42.10 | n3u7 | anyone know antthing of ld not finding lssl? |
| 15:42.11 | ovanoide | n3u7, you have some packages missing.... |
| 15:42.12 | *** part/#asterisk darkskiez (n=darkskie@194.247.78.146) |
| 15:42.15 | Striker`Work | IronHelix: can I find out that info by sniffing the voip packets from the router that vonage sends us? |
| 15:42.40 | IronHelix | ova hang on 2 secs |
| 15:42.44 | Striker`Work | I have vonage service at my house with the router, and I was able to read the packets...but not sure if they containd that info |
| 15:43.02 | IronHelix | striker you cant easily. my suggestion is to give up now and buy a fxo port or port your vonage number to another carrier (good luck w/ that) |
| 15:43.16 | Striker`Work | we havent gotten vonage yet |
| 15:43.22 | IronHelix | then you are lucky |
| 15:43.28 | Striker`Work | we're sizing everything up |
| 15:43.33 | IronHelix | i recommend against vonage |
| 15:43.39 | Striker`Work | yeah, i thought so |
| 15:43.42 | astoria | I like nufone, but i'm switching to asterlink.. |
| 15:43.44 | Striker`Work | what would you recommend? |
| 15:43.54 | IronHelix | just one month ago i recieved a response to a vonage email that i sent LAST YEAR |
| 15:44.00 | Lee__ | is there an alternative voicemail application which works with Asterisk? Specifically, one that lets the user break out of it and dial other extensions after leaving a message? |
| 15:44.02 | Striker`Work | lol |
| 15:44.07 | IronHelix | that is a NINE MONTH DELAY for responding to emails |
| 15:44.37 | lmergen | ok, don't you just hate it when your network administrator says things that aren't true |
| 15:44.40 | Striker`Work | thank goodness i havent needed vonage tech support yet for my home phone |
| 15:44.45 | lmergen | apparantly, my udp forward were indeed not correct |
| 15:44.47 | Striker`Work | i've heard bad things |
| 15:44.51 | morale | exten => _NXXXXXX,1,Dial,IAX2/russellmcconnachie@freeworldtel/${EXTEN} |
| 15:44.51 | morale | exten => _NXXXXXX,2,Congestion() |
| 15:44.53 | lmergen | just costed me 2.5 work days |
| 15:44.55 | morale | why does that not work? |
| 15:44.57 | IronHelix | and good luck porting your number out of them... jeff at quantumvoice (great company btw) has been trying to wrestle my number out of them for a good month and a half, still no luck |
| 15:44.59 | astoria | lmergen: as a network administrator myself, I lie all the time! |
| 15:45.02 | morale | Oct 17 09:38:57 WARNING[27519]: chan_iax2.c:6913 socket_read: Call rejected by 139.142.184.136: No such context/extension |
| 15:45.04 | lmergen | lol :) |
| 15:45.11 | Striker`Work | wow |
| 15:45.14 | IronHelix | lmer: isnt it fun :) |
| 15:45.39 | lmergen | anyway, my IAX2 <=> SIP gateway now works, yeah |
| 15:45.40 | lmergen | :) |
| 15:45.46 | IronHelix | morale- freeworldtel doesnt have a user named russelmcconnachie |
| 15:45.51 | IronHelix | excellent :) |
| 15:45.54 | file | IronHelix: not quite |
| 15:45.59 | morale | lmergen, how did you get it working? |
| 15:46.04 | file | I thought the message would be self-explanatory |
| 15:46.07 | IronHelix | he forwarded his ports |
| 15:46.09 | morale | IronHelix, yes it does. |
| 15:46.10 | file | there's no such context or extension |
| 15:46.29 | IronHelix | there may be, but is it in the iax default context? |
| 15:46.42 | lmergen | morale, by yelling at the network administrator that he really MUST be doing something wrong, waiting 10 minutes, and then receiving an apology... :) |
| 15:46.53 | IronHelix | unless you are dialing with a user/pass it is going into the default context which may not have that username in it |
| 15:47.14 | IronHelix | heheh nice imer |
| 15:47.26 | IronHelix | striker i suggest you run dont walk away from vonage and hire a company that is not way too big for their own good |
| 15:47.27 | file | a default context doesn't even have usernames in it |
| 15:47.36 | IronHelix | er, extensions |
| 15:47.41 | file | there we go. |
| 15:47.43 | *** join/#asterisk ennuyeux72 (n=ennuyeux@host-83-146-53-34.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 15:48.01 | Striker`Work | IronHelix: hehe, well it's my personal line, i'll deal with that some other time |
| 15:48.09 | IronHelix | i recommend quantumvoice, they are smaller and their website looks like ass but they ANSWER THEIR EMAIL which is 1000x more important |
| 15:48.13 | Striker`Work | right now, my boss wants a voip solution that uses asterisk |
| 15:48.18 | IronHelix | then vonage isnt it |
| 15:48.24 | IronHelix | quantumvoice or broadvoice will work |
| 15:48.28 | Striker`Work | cool |
| 15:48.30 | morale | what is the default context for IAX? [default] or [iaxprovider] ? |
| 15:48.36 | IronHelix | as will any company ont he sip providers b2b page on voip-info (which is down atm) |
| 15:48.46 | IronHelix | i think its [default] but you can change it in iax.conf |
| 15:48.50 | IronHelix | look in the guest entry |
| 15:49.11 | Striker`Work | wow...quantumvoice has toll free unlimited in and out? |
| 15:49.19 | IronHelix | yeah but only for personal |
| 15:49.23 | Luhiwu | hello all, anyone can help me with a dtmf problem between asterisk and a Cisco? if i put dtmfmode=rfc2833 i get some digits dupe and the cisco debug seems OK |
| 15:49.27 | IronHelix | if you use it 24/7 they will probably bill you |
| 15:49.37 | iCEBrkr | So where can i get a cheap 800 DID for my asterisk box? |
| 15:49.41 | Striker`Work | hehe |
| 15:49.44 | Striker`Work | we're a tiny company |
| 15:49.45 | ManxPower | Striker`Work, there is no such thing as "unlimited". |
| 15:49.51 | Striker`Work | we just want a one line to test with for now |
| 15:50.01 | *** join/#asterisk kippi (n=chrisfro@untrust-gct.equinoxit.net) |
| 15:50.01 | ManxPower | Try keeping calls up 24/7 and you'll see how limited "unlimited" is. |
| 15:50.03 | kippi | hey |
| 15:50.03 | Striker`Work | tiny as in "3 employees" |
| 15:50.10 | IronHelix | hehehe |
| 15:50.14 | kippi | I have just got my new phones :) |
| 15:50.14 | Striker`Work | lol |
| 15:50.21 | IronHelix | what kind kippi |
| 15:50.59 | kippi | Granstream GX-200 |
| 15:51.03 | IronHelix | those are nice |
| 15:51.04 | kippi | 0 |
| 15:51.07 | IronHelix | burn them with the new firmware |
| 15:51.08 | IronHelix | asap |
| 15:51.21 | kippi | how comes? |
| 15:51.22 | IronHelix | http://www.grandstream.com/DOWNLOAD |
| 15:51.25 | IronHelix | get 1.0.1.12 |
| 15:51.33 | IronHelix | it makes the speakerphone not suck ass |
| 15:52.14 | IronHelix | aka implements AEC |
| 15:52.25 | kippi | ok, i'll do that now |
| 15:52.32 | kippi | then i need to get asterisk working |
| 15:53.13 | IronHelix | have fun :) |
| 15:53.17 | kippi | the thing is, if I go to ADVANCED SETTINGS i get this error |
| 15:53.19 | ManxPower | I don't think any software can make Grandstream products not suck. |
| 15:53.25 | kippi | Access Denied Content-Type: text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 Server: Grandstream/1.10 |
| 15:53.30 | IronHelix | hehehe |
| 15:53.37 | IronHelix | kippi firmware requires a tftp server |
| 15:53.42 | IronHelix | which you can set from the front panel |
| 15:53.46 | IronHelix | try using IE to view the config page |
| 15:53.52 | kippi | i am |
| 15:53.57 | Uther_P | heh, the bugetones are *ok*, but they have crap for features... and the features they DO have are crap |
| 15:54.11 | IronHelix | grandstreams suck but they are good for their price |
| 15:54.12 | iCEBrkr | Uther_P: They're fine for tinkering and testing |
| 15:54.26 | IronHelix | the gxp may still be a cheap piece of grandstream plastic but for $100 im not complaining |
| 15:54.35 | ManxPower | I prefer SIPura ATa + good phoone |
| 15:54.36 | iCEBrkr | Who pays $300+ for a Polycom/Cisco when VoIP is just a hobby? :P |
| 15:54.47 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: Yea, Sipura's rock |
| 15:54.55 | IronHelix | according to GS, new firmware for the gxp will drop around the end of the month and will support grandstream-style hint LED |
| 15:54.56 | IronHelix | eh |
| 15:54.58 | IronHelix | snom-style |
| 15:55.04 | ManxPower | I've spent prolly $3,000 of my own money on VoIP stuff. |
| 15:55.05 | ovanoide | IronHelix, if you find a solution, please tell me... |
| 15:55.07 | ovanoide | i'm trying everything, but it's hard...:( |
| 15:55.16 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: You're probably in the biz tho, no? |
| 15:55.22 | ManxPower | Fortunatly, I learned enough to make that money back many times |
| 15:55.23 | IronHelix | attended transfer iwth * is hard |
| 15:55.27 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: I'm just a lonely PHP programmer for a mom and pop shop |
| 15:55.38 | ManxPower | iCEBrkr, most hobbies are expensive |
| 15:55.45 | IronHelix | good ones at least are |
| 15:55.55 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: hehe I know. I've played Paintball and now I'm all into sport bikes |
| 15:55.57 | Qwell | How illegal is it for somebodys manager to tell your peer about a personal problem you brought up to them, and talk shit on you because of it? |
| 15:56.29 | IronHelix | not very, esp as you had no requirement to tell the manager about your problem |
| 15:56.39 | Qwell | IronHelix: salary problem...I most certainly did |
| 15:56.45 | Qwell | something he and HR screwed up on |
| 15:57.11 | morale | fuck this is confusing |
| 15:57.11 | iCEBrkr | Damnit. Why doesn't Read() fall through to 't' when you don't press any keys?! |
| 15:57.18 | ovanoide | anyone can tell me if asterisk 1.0.7 can be used for production |
| 15:57.26 | ovanoide | ? |
| 15:57.27 | Qwell | ovanoide: use 1.0.9, 1.0.7 is old |
| 15:57.28 | syle | php programmer aye |
| 15:57.28 | ennuyeux72 | anyone wanna setup amanda for cash? msg me |
| 15:57.31 | syle | you use php5? |
| 15:57.38 | IronHelix | use 1.0.9, its pretty stable |
| 15:57.38 | ovanoide | is it production-stable ? |
| 15:57.39 | iCEBrkr | syle: Not in production |
| 15:57.40 | morale | ennuyeux72, amanda? |
| 15:57.49 | syle | apache 2.x? |
| 15:58.01 | iCEBrkr | syle: :( no, I'm required to use IIS |
| 15:58.05 | Holos | Any one here have any experience using Video Conference gear on a dual span T1 Card with Asterisk passing the data through? |
| 15:58.07 | ennuyeux72 | morale: sorry wrong list |
| 15:58.08 | syle | ohhh fuck |
| 15:58.09 | iCEBrkr | syle: Don't ASK! |
| 15:58.10 | IronHelix | qwell if he screwed up then how is he making fun of you? |
| 15:58.12 | syle | i;d quit |
| 15:58.13 | morale | ennuyeux72: get my asterisk server going and i'll get it going |
| 15:58.16 | morale | heh |
| 15:58.16 | Qwell | IronHelix: exactly |
| 15:58.18 | ovanoide | what do you mean with "pretty" stable ? ? :) |
| 15:58.23 | iCEBrkr | syle: this >< close. |
| 15:58.24 | ovanoide | ironhelix ? |
| 15:58.24 | IronHelix | then hes a moron |
| 15:58.27 | Qwell | IronHelix: exactly |
| 15:58.31 | IronHelix | which unfortunately, isn't illegal |
| 15:58.35 | syle | any company that made me use windows as a server i would leave hehee |
| 15:58.43 | Qwell | telling a peer about a problem with my paycheck is legal? |
| 15:58.45 | iCEBrkr | syle: There's a HUGE performance problem with PHP+IIS |
| 15:58.52 | IronHelix | i havent had any problems with it |
| 15:58.53 | Qwell | a peer who has absolutely no reason to know about said problem? |
| 15:58.59 | iCEBrkr | syle: On top of it, We're using MS-SQL as well. |
| 15:59.03 | IronHelix | qwell it depends on the nature of the problem |
| 15:59.13 | syle | i heard IIS is only good for one thing, acting as an image server |
| 15:59.16 | iCEBrkr | syle: Ok, next topic, you're gonna get me all fired-up and I'm gonna be pissy for the rest fo the day |
| 15:59.28 | Striker`Work | anyone know if quantumvoice allows BYOD for their business plans? |
| 15:59.35 | Qwell | IronHelix: reimbursement moving check was very short... |
| 15:59.37 | JerJer | syle: yeah static images |
| 15:59.37 | iCEBrkr | IIS is a pretty good boat anchor I hear. |
| 15:59.50 | IronHelix | im 90% sure they do striker, post int heir forum you will get an answer within 24hr |
| 16:00.01 | syle | well dude if i was you, i would hold a meeting with the owner and discuss benefits of running a linux based server personally, over lunch or whatever |
| 16:00.02 | iCEBrkr | I swear IIS6 has something in it to slow down PHP |
| 16:00.19 | IronHelix | if they screwed it up, then its their problem, and they should fix it. if they tell ppl in the office about it then its probably a bad environment |
| 16:00.37 | iCEBrkr | syle: I've had the talk with him on many occasions. Unfortunately, I'm not interested in being a system admin and I'm the only person here that has any idea about maintaining a linux box |
| 16:00.40 | syle | although i;ve never had a company that didn;t do exactly what i recommended |
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| 16:01.03 | syle | ohhh |
| 16:01.13 | syle | i thought you were sys admin |
| 16:01.31 | iCEBrkr | syle: Shhhhh, I can do the work I just don't care to.. I'm a programmer and that's all I really care to do. |
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| 16:01.45 | syle | understandable |
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| 16:01.59 | iCEBrkr | It's bad enough I'm already logggin 50-60hrs aweek |
| 16:02.19 | IronHelix | voip-info.org is back up |
| 16:02.21 | syle | how many hours can you spend on one site |
| 16:02.27 | syle | you do more? |
| 16:02.42 | iCEBrkr | syle: I program for this company. We don't do outside work. |
| 16:02.56 | iCEBrkr | syle: At the moment, I'm working on an Asterisk project. |
| 16:03.04 | iCEBrkr | and Read() is pissing me off. :P |
| 16:03.10 | syle | haha |
| 16:03.22 | syle | fuck read just use 1 dtmf hehe |
| 16:04.05 | syle | i;m playing with mysql module right now |
| 16:04.12 | syle | seem to have got it somewhat stable now |
| 16:04.12 | iCEBrkr | for CDR? |
| 16:04.29 | iCEBrkr | Or the 'realtime' crap? |
| 16:04.34 | syle | no CMD mysql |
| 16:04.38 | iCEBrkr | oh |
| 16:05.01 | syle | my problem was trying to make sure it disconnected properly |
| 16:05.06 | iCEBrkr | Gotta keep the queries short and sweet |
| 16:05.29 | syle | yeah pretty much |
| 16:05.37 | syle | i did one test where i named a field wrong |
| 16:05.53 | syle | i looped asterisk so bad i had to reconnect to my ssh session |
| 16:05.57 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 16:06.14 | iCEBrkr | I did that with a GotoIF() |
| 16:06.37 | syle | yeah i;ve done that to lol |
| 16:07.37 | syle | for cdr i just used mysql-addons |
| 16:07.45 | iCEBrkr | Yeah |
| 16:07.52 | syle | and used mysql 5.x for trigger support to do shit i wanted |
| 16:07.59 | iCEBrkr | I've been using it for a year or so, it works.. But I think it misses calls sometimes. |
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| 16:08.24 | syle | hmmm |
| 16:08.34 | syle | never had a problem with that |
| 16:08.58 | syle | i guess could code a perl script to do inserts on cdr on the flat files just in case every so often |
| 16:09.29 | syle | be useful thing to have in case your db crashed anyways |
| 16:09.34 | iCEBrkr | I don't have 100% proof it missed calls. |
| 16:09.51 | iCEBrkr | I think it might be a timing issue. |
| 16:09.56 | BladeRunner05 | I have a problem with timing for include: If I use include => xxx|18:00-09:00|mon-fri|*|* at the 18:00 it didn't start |
| 16:10.18 | BladeRunner05 | to execute [xxx] |
| 16:10.26 | syle | i don;t think it would ever miss an entry unless you hit max connections on db or weren;t using innodb instead of myisam on heavy inserts |
| 16:11.19 | iCEBrkr | syle: It's an odd situation. |
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| 16:12.12 | iCEBrkr | syle: Obviously you log all in/outbound calls via CDR |
| 16:12.14 | syle | well reason i;m playing with this mysql module is cause i want to do dial blah for this many seconds with dial L flag |
| 16:12.23 | iCEBrkr | Well, I went looking for a call I know I made, but couldn't find it in the DB |
| 16:12.29 | syle | don;t think theres a better way to kill off a call if they reach max minutes |
| 16:12.33 | iCEBrkr | But I found it in the CSV CDR file |
| 16:13.33 | syle | hmmm |
| 16:13.40 | syle | i would check the field values on it |
| 16:13.50 | iCEBrkr | and it's not like I make 100 calls a day |
| 16:13.53 | syle | maybe it was a special character somewhere that caused the problem |
| 16:14.26 | syle | although you can;t really go wrong with a varchar field |
| 16:14.46 | lmergen | ehrm, FXO is only for receiving calls... FXS is for sending calls, eh ? |
| 16:14.52 | Qwell | lmergen: no |
| 16:14.52 | IronHelix | no |
| 16:14.55 | iCEBrkr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.55 | iCEBrkr | +---------------------+ |
| 16:14.55 | iCEBrkr | | 2004-05-20 11:36:15 | |
| 16:14.56 | Qwell | ~fxofxs |
| 16:14.57 | jbot | i heard fxofxs is An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage. |
| 16:14.57 | lmergen | phew |
| 16:15.02 | iCEBrkr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:15.02 | iCEBrkr | +----------+ |
| 16:15.02 | iCEBrkr | | 3941 | |
| 16:15.15 | IronHelix | fxo connects to a phone LINE. fxs connects to a PHONE and gves it dialtone etc |
| 16:15.25 | lmergen | phew, ok |
| 16:15.43 | lmergen | almost thought my employer ordered the wrong product :) |
| 16:15.54 | syle | easiest way to remember: fxs: home lines fxo: analog trunk |
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| 16:16.24 | IronHelix | hehehe you will want fxo ports to connect to existing phone lines from your telco |
| 16:16.40 | lmergen | IronHelix, ok, tx |
| 16:16.48 | lmergen | IronHelix, my boss ordered FXO so that's ok :) |
| 16:16.56 | IronHelix | excellent :) |
| 16:17.07 | morale | ok this is so weird, i can dialout out only when i put the full number, 14031234567.. if i dial 4031234567 or 1234567 neither of those work and i have them defined.. can someone look at my extensions.conf at http://deadbolt.ca/~russell/extensions.txt ? |
| 16:17.34 | lmergen | sick bastard... i /told/ him i cannot guarantee that i will be able to make it work, but he insisted on ordering a 4-line module |
| 16:18.09 | IronHelix | well if it doesnt work (and it probably wont, asterisk is REALLY REALLY HARD) send the card over here for debugging :) |
| 16:18.20 | IronHelix | :) |
| 16:18.32 | lmergen | haha ;) |
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| 16:19.30 | IronHelix | morale- many iax providers need 10 digit |
| 16:19.31 | IronHelix | try this |
| 16:19.38 | IronHelix | exten => _NXXXXXX,1,Dial,IAX2/russellmcconnachie@freeworldtel/${EXTEN} |
| 16:19.42 | IronHelix | eh |
| 16:19.56 | IronHelix | exten => _NXXXXXX,1,Dial,IAX2/russellmcconnachie@freeworldtel/1403${EXTEN} |
| 16:19.56 | morale | yeah i used that one |
| 16:19.58 | IronHelix | there we go |
| 16:19.59 | morale | oh ok |
| 16:20.04 | IronHelix | sorry mirc pasted wrong :) |
| 16:20.15 | morale | will that be classified as long distance? |
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| 16:20.42 | IronHelix | it will be classified however your voip provider does, generally they determine local/LD based on if its in the same area code |
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| 16:21.22 | BladeRunner05 | I need help on my extension.conf script who want to GUESS = |
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| 16:22.01 | IronHelix | thing is the voip provider has to dial them all 11 digit anyway to pass them to their provider, they just dont bother adding the area code for 7 digit dials unless they are residential like vonage |
| 16:22.03 | IronHelix | blade- sure |
| 16:22.31 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: can I send it to u ? |
| 16:23.40 | morale | this is so fucked, when i call outbound it registers at 4036681575, but when i call that number it hangs up on me right away.. when i can 4036681593 it shows me it attempted to connect in asterisk.. |
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| 16:24.35 | IronHelix | blade- msg it or put it on http://pastebin.com/ |
| 16:24.49 | IronHelix | take out the juicy bits first if there are any (provider login/passwords) |
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| 16:26.11 | n3u7 | well ubuntu was a miserable failure |
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| 16:27.06 | msw | n3u7: what were you trying to do with it? |
| 16:27.18 | n3u7 | install asterisk |
| 16:27.32 | msw | n3u7: tried any of the asterisk-specific distros? |
| 16:27.42 | n3u7 | now I've moved onto SuSE9.3 |
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| 16:27.53 | n3u7 | msw:like what? |
| 16:27.57 | n3u7 | debian? |
| 16:28.40 | Katty | attention! exchange has been fixed! |
| 16:28.48 | IronHelix | blade copy and paste it to a query window |
| 16:28.49 | wunderkin | * kram is now away |
| 16:28.59 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: ok |
| 16:29.02 | Katty | hi kram (= |
| 16:29.02 | IronHelix | hah |
| 16:29.03 | IronHelix | exchange |
| 16:29.09 | IronHelix | what a pain in the rear |
| 16:29.13 | Katty | IronHelix: just be happy you don't have to fix it. |
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| 16:29.27 | IronHelix | nice when it works- when it doesnt may the gods have mercy on your poor poor soul |
| 16:29.29 | Katty | kram: or are you still not talking to me? |
| 16:29.31 | IronHelix | i have in the past |
| 16:29.31 | generalhan | hey everyone ! |
| 16:30.06 | JerJer | Katty: kram is very busy and easily distracted by people IRL |
| 16:30.13 | Katty | JerJer: i'm well aware. |
| 16:30.17 | JerJer | so don't take it personal |
| 16:30.26 | Katty | JerJer: run along and play. |
| 16:30.33 | JerJer | just being sure you understand |
| 16:30.38 | IronHelix | what i hate about ms exchange is that at no point is data stored in FILES which can be COPIED or RESTORED |
| 16:30.42 | Katty | JerJer: i'm not stupid ;) |
| 16:30.46 | IronHelix | simple concepts like this seem to elude them.... |
| 16:30.54 | JerJer | then don't make comments like that |
| 16:30.57 | justinu | lol |
| 16:31.00 | Katty | IronHelix: that is rather annoying, isn't it |
| 16:31.08 | Lee__ | IronHelix, that's the M$ advantage. it's more user friendly. |
| 16:31.09 | msw | n3u7: nah, like astlinux or pound key |
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| 16:31.24 | Katty | JerJer: you obviously missed some..uhh..private conversation between us |
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| 16:31.30 | Katty | JerJer: but that's ok, i don't expect you to understand. |
| 16:31.36 | IronHelix | sorry blade |
| 16:31.38 | IronHelix | try pastebin |
| 16:31.46 | n3u7 | msw:thanks no I haven't yet |
| 16:31.56 | BladeRunner05 | Iron: can I send u a txt file ? |
| 16:31.58 | JerJer | mkay - someone is in a weird mood today |
| 16:32.06 | IronHelix | put it on pastebin.com |
| 16:32.12 | generalhan | my boss is looking for some Voice Recognition software that will work with asterisk, something that i can point a number to and have this software log the responses to general questions, anyone have any suggestions for me ? |
| 16:32.15 | Katty | in other mews, i've found a robotics doggy kit. |
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| 16:32.19 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o twisted[asteria]] by ChanServ |
| 16:32.27 | Katty | twisted[asteria]: i found the doggy! |
| 16:32.32 | iCEBrkr | generalhan: Goodluck! |
| 16:32.37 | Katty | twisted[asteria]: for 331.50 |
| 16:32.38 | msw | generalhan: LumenVox |
| 16:32.48 | generalhan | iCEBrkr:dont tell me that LOL |
| 16:32.49 | iCEBrkr | generalhan: None of that shit is 100% reliable. |
| 16:32.57 | generalhan | great |
| 16:33.21 | iCEBrkr | generalhan: it's only really good for 1-2-3-4, yes, no type stuff |
| 16:33.28 | generalhan | well ive been trying to tell him this isnt the way he wants to go anyway, but he doesnt want to listen to me, so if he wants to blow money on this and watch it not work, thats his problem now |
| 16:33.33 | iCEBrkr | generalhan: Unless you pay $$$$$ |
| 16:33.52 | generalhan | see he's willing to pay what ever it takes |
| 16:34.02 | iCEBrkr | I'm sure the system that 800-555-1212 (TellMe) uses is a lot of dough. |
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| 16:34.48 | generalhan | but my issue is this, i work for a law firm and if someone calls and is prompted with whats your name, and they say something like mujarharriar how is any software going to know how to spell that ? |
| 16:34.59 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 16:35.03 | generalhan | lol |
| 16:35.03 | IronHelix | its not |
| 16:35.05 | IronHelix | give up now |
| 16:35.07 | generalhan | exactly |
| 16:35.11 | generalhan | i cant |
| 16:35.24 | generalhan | i told my boss that EXACT example and he still thinks its possible |
| 16:35.27 | IronHelix | your only hope is to store the phonetic name of each client in a database |
| 16:35.44 | generalhan | eww |
| 16:35.56 | generalhan | dont tell him that please, im the one that gets that great fun task |
| 16:36.01 | IronHelix | lol |
| 16:36.10 | IronHelix | how many clients? |
| 16:36.33 | generalhan | little over 5000 |
| 16:36.37 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: |
| 16:36.45 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: I post it !!! |
| 16:36.58 | IronHelix | gah, thats no fun |
| 16:37.09 | IronHelix | blade- looking |
| 16:37.11 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: I post it !!! |
| 16:37.30 | IronHelix | ok whats the problem with it |
| 16:37.46 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: The problem is that when I call asterisk and press the 1 key or 2 key the call is not forwarded to the int1,int2,int3 |
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| 16:38.06 | IronHelix | exten => s,3,BackGround(fuoriorario) ; Play a congratulatory message does that work? |
| 16:38.18 | IronHelix | do you hear the furioaraio message when you call? |
| 16:38.33 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: No |
| 16:38.46 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: I hear the demo (welcome) message !!!! |
| 16:39.14 | IronHelix | ok i think i see what you are trying to do |
| 16:39.17 | *** join/#asterisk KriS83 (n=KriS@212.202.141.92) |
| 16:39.23 | KriS83 | Hi |
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| 16:39.38 | IronHelix | you want when you call, the demo message to play, except between 1800 and 0900 monday-friday the fuorioaraio message to play |
| 16:39.39 | IronHelix | correct? |
| 16:39.47 | twisted[asteria] | Katty, doggy? |
| 16:40.00 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: This is the first problem |
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| 16:40.20 | IronHelix | lets start here, what do you want to happen |
| 16:40.23 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: The second is that when [demo] play and I digit 1 the call is not forwarded to int1 |
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| 16:41.01 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: when I digit 1 I hear a ring tone but I don't know where asterisk try to forward the call |
| 16:41.17 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: Ok solve the first problem |
| 16:41.23 | IronHelix | ok a bit of background, each call (channel) is at any time in a single context. when a call is in a context, it can dial any extension in that context, only. If you want to be able to call another context, then you can use GoTo(context,ext,priority) or you can include |
| 16:41.30 | KriS83 | How can I forward Phonecalls back to a normal phone? > Call -> Asterisk -> Press 1 for sales -> 1 -> Sales -> Call MSN 17 |
| 16:41.59 | IronHelix | so if you are in the furioario context and are hearing the message, you need to make include => interni in furioario context |
| 16:42.12 | IronHelix | then people hearing the furioario message can dial internal extensions |
| 16:43.02 | IronHelix | in demo, instead of include'ing everything |
| 16:43.11 | IronHelix | ie demo and furioario |
| 16:43.38 | IronHelix | make two exten,s,1's that goto to the particular context, and are time dependant |
| 16:43.54 | IronHelix | KriS83- msn 17 i assume is a user running msn messenger |
| 16:44.08 | IronHelix | make an entry for them in sip.conf so they have an extension. |
| 16:44.11 | KriS83 | Not really |
| 16:44.25 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: can u try to explain manipulating my extensions.conf file |
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| 16:44.43 | IronHelix | sure, lemme type something up for you blade one sec |
| 16:44.49 | IronHelix | kris- you mean to a cell phone? |
| 16:45.00 | iCEBrkr | KriS83: The phones have to be registerd with Asterisk or you need some sort of gateway for asterisk to pass the calls to. |
| 16:45.09 | IronHelix | exactly |
| 16:45.31 | Barza | some one know howto setup iax trunk? |
| 16:45.38 | KriS83 | Well ASterisk is connected to a "Anlage" *grmlz* What that in English? ;) |
| 16:45.49 | IronHelix | so either you have an ip phone connected to *, you have a pots phone connected to a digium card or channel bank connected to *, or you have a voip provider that * can dial out on |
| 16:46.12 | IronHelix | analog? dunno about grmlz |
| 16:46.16 | KriS83 | Noo |
| 16:46.39 | KriS83 | for ISDN you normally put a box infront of your phones |
| 16:46.48 | KriS83 | what do you call this box? ;) |
| 16:46.50 | IronHelix | terminal adapter? |
| 16:46.54 | iCEBrkr | ISDN Terminal Adapter |
| 16:46.57 | Barza | because i tried to configure like voip-info say |
| 16:47.01 | KriS83 | yes.. |
| 16:47.08 | KriS83 | but I can forward between MSNs |
| 16:47.18 | KriS83 | Like atm I call msn 27 |
| 16:47.22 | KriS83 | ASterisk answers |
| 16:47.27 | iCEBrkr | Typically, you have two POTS ports on your ISDN terminal adapter |
| 16:47.36 | Barza | but some thing is wrong in the autentication , |
| 16:47.36 | KriS83 | We have 6 |
| 16:47.41 | Barza | is rejected |
| 16:47.42 | iCEBrkr | oh cool. |
| 16:47.49 | IronHelix | then you have some kind of pri line |
| 16:47.52 | IronHelix | fractional t1 maybe |
| 16:48.12 | KriS83 | Might be, I'm new to this ;) I am happy to have setup Asterisk ;) |
| 16:48.18 | iCEBrkr | IronHelix: Yea, that sounds more like an Adtran or something. |
| 16:48.26 | KriS83 | And it ansers the phone and gives me the menu already |
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| 16:48.46 | KriS83 | all I need is to pass the call from Aeterisk to the phone again |
| 16:49.03 | IronHelix | ahh ok in that case * will need to be connected to at least two phone lines |
| 16:49.17 | KriS83 | Yepp it is |
| 16:49.18 | IronHelix | the second one is for asterisk to dial out and make the second call |
| 16:49.25 | KriS83 | yepp |
| 16:49.30 | IronHelix | first make sure your zaptel lines are setup |
| 16:49.42 | IronHelix | and use Dial(zap/2/1234567890) |
| 16:49.45 | IronHelix | or something like that |
| 16:50.23 | Barza | what kind of auth i have to use? |
| 16:50.45 | KriS83 | Well you lost me on "make sure your zaptel is setup" ;) |
| 16:51.04 | IronHelix | make sure zaptel sees both lines |
| 16:51.07 | IronHelix | and can dial out on both of them |
| 16:52.06 | morale | why would i be able to dial out local numbers with 1403xxxxxxx but not numbers in different area codes? |
| 16:52.20 | morale | i get 503: Service Unavailable |
| 16:52.48 | KriS83 | IronHelix, thats exacly where I am stuck. You mean /etc/zaptel.conf right? |
| 16:53.48 | IronHelix | yes |
| 16:53.55 | IronHelix | you need to define each zap channel |
| 16:54.03 | astoria | KriS83: then run ztcfg -vv |
| 16:54.11 | KriS83 | IronHelix, when I can call in on 2 lines doesn't that mean * can call out on both also? |
| 16:54.39 | astoria | If your lines are busy then you cannot use them. |
| 16:55.05 | IronHelix | if you have two zap lines and both have an incoming call then you cannot make another outgoing call |
| 16:55.21 | KriS83 | I know |
| 16:55.23 | astoria | You might be able to accept more incomign with call waiting, though. |
| 16:55.45 | KriS83 | But atm I can call * and someone else can also so I thought it was setup alright |
| 16:55.56 | KriS83 | but when I execute the above command I get: 0 channels configured. |
| 16:56.19 | astoria | You need to setup your channels in /etc/zaptel.conf |
| 16:56.30 | KriS83 | astoria, how would this look like? |
| 16:56.54 | astoria | huh? edit /etc/zaptel.conf and configure your channels.. I don't know what your parameters should be.. |
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| 17:05.37 | KriS83 | I don't need to edit zaptel if I use capi though? Or have I just missunderstood what I have read? |
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| 17:06.33 | IronHelix | correct, if you use capi then ignore everything about zaptel |
| 17:06.49 | KriS83 | ok |
| 17:06.53 | IronHelix | we assume you use zaptel becuase everybody uses zaptel :) |
| 17:07.02 | KriS83 | Not us, not yet ;) |
| 17:07.04 | KriS83 | Sorry |
| 17:07.40 | morale | anyone use freeworldtel for their voip provider? |
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| 17:30.02 | iCEBrkr | How can I catch a timedout Read()? |
| 17:31.21 | syle | set timeout |
| 17:31.30 | iCEBrkr | Read() Doesn't jump to 't' |
| 17:31.58 | iCEBrkr | Actually, lemme try something |
| 17:32.10 | syle | i would think it would |
| 17:32.39 | ManxPower | I believe read will exit and go to the next priority on timeout |
| 17:32.44 | iCEBrkr | Yup |
| 17:33.10 | ManxPower | I doubt you can tell the difference between a timeout and a non-timeout situation |
| 17:33.12 | syle | well how do you tell difference between a timeout and real input then hehe |
| 17:33.40 | ManxPower | syle, well a timeout with no input would have an empty variable |
| 17:33.40 | syle | well |
| 17:33.48 | iCEBrkr | I'm only asking for 1 key inputs too. Hrrm. |
| 17:33.49 | syle | try checking if your read variable is null |
| 17:33.54 | iCEBrkr | I guess I can check the variable. |
| 17:33.56 | ManxPower | but a timeout with input -- no easy way to tell |
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| 17:34.55 | iCEBrkr | Read() waits for ResponseTime(), but it doesn't exit to 't'. |
| 17:35.08 | iCEBrkr | Kinda weird behavior if you ask me. *Shrug* |
| 17:35.28 | syle | well his gotoif would catch the bad input from read in that case i imagine manxpower |
| 17:35.31 | ohad | i just lost the registration on all the phones that are not using lines on *. how do i renew registration with those phones? |
| 17:35.46 | ohad | when i do "show sip peers" i see nothing |
| 17:35.50 | ManxPower | ohad, the phones have to re-register |
| 17:36.03 | iCEBrkr | ohad: PIck one up and dial from it. |
| 17:36.04 | iCEBrkr | :P |
| 17:36.05 | websae | anyone know the command to get package on redhat whitebox? |
| 17:36.09 | ManxPower | ohad, there is no way for a SIP server to force a phone to reregister. |
| 17:36.19 | brookshire | web: yum? |
| 17:36.21 | ohad | ManxPower, is there any command i can run off asterisk to reregsiter the phones? |
| 17:36.31 | ManxPower | If nat is involved you should have qualify=yes in each of the [phone-whatever] sections of sip.conf |
| 17:36.34 | ManxPower | ohad, there is no way for a SIP server to force a phone to reregister. |
| 17:36.35 | iCEBrkr | websae: apt-get, yum, rpm? |
| 17:36.38 | skyen | ManxPower: perhaps you could set some sort of valid-time? |
| 17:36.49 | brookshire | emerge? |
| 17:36.50 | brookshire | :D |
| 17:36.52 | skyen | iirc my asterisk re-register with my provider every 120sec |
| 17:36.53 | iCEBrkr | brookshire: hehe |
| 17:36.59 | ohad | ManxPower, how do i restart it so the phones will re-rester? |
| 17:37.14 | ManxPower | ohad, power cycle the phones or wait for the phones to reregister. |
| 17:37.37 | ohad | iCEBrkr, ManxPower i can't even get a dial tone on the phones that lost registerations |
| 17:37.55 | ManxPower | ohad, and you power cycled the phone/ |
| 17:37.56 | iCEBrkr | ohad: Then something else is wrong, they should re-reg when you pick up |
| 17:37.58 | brookshire | YAST! |
| 17:38.02 | iCEBrkr | brookshire: lol |
| 17:38.03 | file | gast! |
| 17:38.17 | IronHelix | power cycle the phones, if they dont re register when they reboot then you have a larger problem |
| 17:38.29 | brookshire | someone needs to create a package management system with torrent |
| 17:38.30 | brookshire | lol |
| 17:38.46 | iCEBrkr | brookshire: If you don't mind waiting 4days for a install |
| 17:38.58 | brookshire | yeah.. you just need more peers |
| 17:39.00 | brookshire | :D |
| 17:39.38 | Katty | twisted[asteria]: yes, a doggy. robotics kit which i shall turn into a cat. |
| 17:40.02 | brookshire | josh went to go get new powerbook |
| 17:40.05 | brookshire | hehe |
| 17:40.21 | Katty | twisted[asteria]: give me your powerbook |
| 17:40.41 | brookshire | [11:39] <twisted[asteria]>i'm off to get me a powerbook |
| 17:41.05 | brookshire | so jealous |
| 17:41.05 | brookshire | lol |
| 17:41.11 | IronHelix | bah |
| 17:41.27 | IronHelix | powerbooks look cool, but i'd rather have a x86 notebook |
| 17:41.34 | brookshire | nah.. |
| 17:41.40 | IronHelix | besides powerpc will be dead in a few years anyway |
| 17:41.58 | brookshire | well... i love mine |
| 17:42.01 | brookshire | it's just old |
| 17:42.09 | brookshire | 4 years now.. i think |
| 17:42.28 | IronHelix | how's it holding up? |
| 17:42.35 | brookshire | remarkably well |
| 17:42.41 | brookshire | people think it's brand new |
| 17:42.56 | brookshire | because it's a powerbook g4 |
| 17:43.02 | brookshire | and has a dvd burner ;) |
| 17:43.04 | Katty | file: :< |
| 17:43.53 | IronHelix | cool |
| 17:43.58 | wunderkin | at least you eat, katty |
| 17:43.59 | IronHelix | i wish my lappy had a dvd burner :\ |
| 17:44.12 | file | Katty |
| 17:44.14 | file | gah |
| 17:44.14 | brookshire | i have dual monitors too with my powerbook |
| 17:44.16 | brookshire | HEHE |
| 17:44.17 | file | Katty: what were you having? |
| 17:44.29 | IronHelix | hehe |
| 17:44.33 | IronHelix | that must be a nice setup |
| 17:44.37 | IronHelix | use it as your main desktop? |
| 17:44.44 | brookshire | yeah |
| 17:44.59 | brookshire | i do a lot of webdesign so i have to |
| 17:45.09 | IronHelix | yeah |
| 17:45.12 | IronHelix | i hate web design |
| 17:45.17 | brookshire | need my fireworks and photoshop |
| 17:45.19 | eKo1 | yuck, web design |
| 17:45.20 | IronHelix | but the few times i've done it i've wished for a 2nd screen |
| 17:45.29 | brookshire | i know.. i know |
| 17:45.29 | brookshire | HEHE |
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| 17:45.40 | brookshire | i mainly code though.. |
| 17:45.49 | eKo1 | I'm stuck with using nvu on linux for web design. |
| 17:45.55 | morale | can someone give me a hand getting asterisk working? i can't recieve calls on my softphone, but i can dial out.. |
| 17:45.56 | brookshire | but occasionally need to do some chopping up |
| 17:46.08 | IronHelix | morale-s ure |
| 17:46.11 | ronaldl79 | Can anyone recommend a comparison of Asterisk and other IP PBXs from Avaya and Nortel? |
| 17:46.11 | brookshire | nvu? |
| 17:46.36 | eKo1 | brookshire: never head of it? |
| 17:46.40 | brookshire | no.. |
| 17:46.40 | IronHelix | check your contexts, make sure the callis coming in on the right context (set in sip.conf or zaptel.conf or capi) |
| 17:46.48 | IronHelix | nvu is the linspire thing IIRC |
| 17:46.53 | brookshire | is it like fireworks or dreamweaver ? |
| 17:47.06 | newmember | ronaldl79: what do you want to compair? |
| 17:47.09 | IronHelix | dreamwewaver as i recall |
| 17:47.20 | brookshire | oh.. i just use vi |
| 17:47.22 | eKo1 | ronaldl79: yes, Asterisk == open source/cheap, Avaya or Nortel == expensive |
| 17:47.24 | brookshire | hehe |
| 17:47.34 | IronHelix | also asterisk = more extensible and more flexible |
| 17:47.35 | ronaldl79 | newmember: I need a 'feature by feature' comparison along with pricing. I recall reading one online before, but I can't remember where. |
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| 17:47.37 | IronHelix | less $/feature |
| 17:47.38 | eKo1 | brookshire: like dreamweaver-- |
| 17:48.02 | morale | ironhelix, it is using IAX2. calls are coming in on the context i called [freeworldtel] which is set in my iax.conf definition |
| 17:48.04 | Katty | file: mushroom quesidilla |
| 17:48.15 | newmember | ronaldl79: maybe one of the IP-PBX venders have done one |
| 17:48.22 | file | Katty: ooh |
| 17:48.22 | brookshire | only thing i ever used dreamweaver for was image links |
| 17:48.27 | brookshire | but fireworks does that now |
| 17:48.28 | Katty | file: mine |
| 17:48.30 | websae | anyone here running AstBILL? |
| 17:48.31 | ronaldl79 | Something I can give to a client, to increase their excitement about Asterisk. |
| 17:48.32 | brookshire | so i don't bother with it |
| 17:48.39 | websae | i am curious about enabling and defining trunks on it |
| 17:48.46 | websae | anyone have experience with it? |
| 17:48.48 | IronHelix | hmmm |
| 17:49.00 | brookshire | here |
| 17:49.03 | IronHelix | are you sure they are going to the right extension? try iax2 debug... |
| 17:49.23 | brookshire | here's you a comparison... avaya or nortel ~= $15-20k |
| 17:49.27 | brookshire | asterisk = free |
| 17:49.27 | brookshire | :) |
| 17:49.33 | ronaldl79 | lol |
| 17:49.34 | trout_ | Anyone using x100p in freebsd? |
| 17:49.35 | *** join/#asterisk n0where (n=kc@s199048.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) |
| 17:49.48 | ronaldl79 | Well, I guess that will say enough. |
| 17:49.50 | trout_ | particularly freebsd 5 |
| 17:50.02 | brookshire | avaya runs on windows.. |
| 17:50.30 | ronaldl79 | Do any of you guys have experience with legacy PBXs from Avaya or Nortel? And if so, which do you prefer? |
| 17:50.46 | pooh_ | damn, why is mpg123 eating all of my cpu? |
| 17:50.50 | brookshire | nortel definately owns avaya |
| 17:50.56 | Katty | ronaldl79: let's not forget the girls. |
| 17:50.58 | newmember | ronaldl79: better that review clients needs, make sure tht asterisk fits; then add the costs to deliver. I would say every office install is diiferent and for that every quote is different. So set up an Apples to Apples comparison |
| 17:50.59 | brookshire | hehe |
| 17:51.03 | Katty | ronaldl79: and the girls prefer nortel as well. |
| 17:51.22 | ronaldl79 | :) |
| 17:51.27 | brookshire | nortel is like the sun supercomputer of telephony |
| 17:51.45 | ronaldl79 | Yeah, but * can do everthing Nortel can. |
| 17:51.49 | bweschke | fonality has something along those lines |
| 17:51.53 | bweschke | checkout out their site for it |
| 17:51.54 | brookshire | well.. |
| 17:51.55 | bweschke | it's a PDF |
| 17:52.25 | brookshire | somewhat.. |
| 17:52.30 | brookshire | asterisk is definately getting there |
| 17:52.37 | brookshire | like h323 needs some work |
| 17:52.53 | ronaldl79 | Who really cares about H323? I don't. :) SIP and IAX meets my needs just fine. |
| 17:53.11 | brookshire | h323 has more installs than any other platform |
| 17:53.16 | ronaldl79 | I'm still discovering things about * ... it's a beast of features and capability. |
| 17:53.17 | brookshire | especially the big guys |
| 17:53.25 | coppice | nortel used to be a really great company. something went horribly wrong |
| 17:53.29 | brookshire | like.. the big bells |
| 17:53.33 | newmember | ronaldl79: nortel makes DMS500 switches, then I say no, nortel makes BCM and BCM has lots of features. Get what the client wants first |
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| 17:54.35 | ronaldl79 | The client is already sold on *. I'm demoing for their board today. They're excited about it, and so am I. |
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| 17:55.09 | ronaldl79 | They're being introduced to things that weren't previously possible. |
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| 17:55.25 | brookshire | asterisk is definitely more customizable |
| 17:55.27 | brookshire | ;) |
| 17:56.04 | brookshire | and can work with off-the-shelf equipment in some situations |
| 17:56.16 | iCEBrkr | I hate to say it. But What you save in hardware/software with Asterisk, you pay for in maintenance :-/ |
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| 17:57.02 | iCEBrkr | Well, I dunno if I can say that even.. I haven't had an asterisk box in a production environment.. Other than my house. and that's only 2 phones. |
| 17:57.04 | brookshire | icebrkr: i dunno... once you get a method of maintenance down.. and automated.. |
| 17:57.08 | newmember | ronaldl79: dont sell them on the *, sell them on the operational cost of the system over 36 months. Total cost of ownership (TCO) - that will be more impressive |
| 17:57.14 | *** part/#asterisk pooh_ (n=hfwang@cust.15.241.adsl.cistron.nl) |
| 17:57.29 | brookshire | plus you don't have to be physically at a client location to fix an asterisk box most of the time |
| 17:58.07 | iCEBrkr | brookshire: *nods* Oh, I understand. I ran my phone landline through my asterisk box for a year and now i'm using it for my primary VoIP connection |
| 17:58.27 | iCEBrkr | I guess I just worry about the load on an asterisk server. |
| 17:58.32 | ronaldl79 | Who's your VoIP provider, iCE? |
| 17:58.34 | iCEBrkr | Since I haven't seen it in action |
| 17:58.50 | iCEBrkr | ronaldl79: *cringe* VoicePulse |
| 17:58.55 | ronaldl79 | lol |
| 17:59.03 | ronaldl79 | Well, I just switched to BroadVoice from Vonage. |
| 17:59.29 | iCEBrkr | I guess Vonage is cool for a prepackaged/shrink-wrapped product. |
| 17:59.51 | iCEBrkr | ronaldl79: I use VoicePulse's 'Connect' package. You manage your own stuff and pay as you go. |
| 18:00.02 | iCEBrkr | $11/mo for a DID |
| 18:00.18 | ronaldl79 | I used VP's connect service briefly, and it was $7.95/mo for a DID then. |
| 18:00.34 | ronaldl79 | I also have VoIPJet, but it's not part of my dialplan ... only for testing. |
| 18:00.41 | iCEBrkr | Yeah, that's when I got it. BUt then they lowered your per/min charges and raise the DID charges. |
| 18:00.41 | astoria | I use nufone, i'm pretty happy, but i'm still switching to asterlink. |
| 18:01.10 | *** part/#asterisk eKo1 (n=darkproj@65.169.159.98) |
| 18:01.15 | websae | WE provide DIDs for $4.99/month |
| 18:01.23 | websae | *We |
| 18:01.28 | ronaldl79 | There's a lot of providers out there. |
| 18:01.37 | Katty | a whole crapload of providers. |
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| 18:01.45 | mutilator | crapload! |
| 18:01.48 | mutilator | thats a lot i might add |
| 18:01.51 | websae | and our outbound rate is 1.5cents/min |
| 18:02.00 | ronaldl79 | Yeah, everyone and their mama is selling minutes. |
| 18:02.01 | websae | and have great international rates |
| 18:02.02 | Katty | mutilator: precisely. |
| 18:02.10 | ronaldl79 | Katty: Do you tinker with *? |
| 18:02.19 | Katty | uhh |
| 18:02.22 | websae | yeah i guess so we have some great carriers |
| 18:02.24 | Katty | why would i be in here if i wasn't? |
| 18:02.31 | websae | to our gig-e connections |
| 18:02.34 | mutilator | Katty: paid entertainment? |
| 18:02.35 | ronaldl79 | lol |
| 18:02.48 | astoria | wait? we're talking about * here? I'm just here for the cybersex. |
| 18:02.49 | Katty | mutilator: i'd go to a strip club for that |
| 18:03.16 | ronaldl79 | Has anyone loaded the Cepstral voices on *? They sound great. |
| 18:03.19 | mutilator | pff |
| 18:03.26 | Katty | ronaldl79: yes, i have an asterisk server. |
| 18:03.29 | Katty | ronaldl79: yes, i set it up |
| 18:03.30 | mutilator | strip club is too expensive |
| 18:03.34 | iCEBrkr | astoria: you gonna touch my buttons? |
| 18:03.36 | mutilator | just go to the bar and buy 2 shots |
| 18:03.36 | Katty | ronaldl79: yes, i created the dialplan and everything else in it |
| 18:03.41 | ronaldl79 | lol Katty |
| 18:03.43 | mutilator | then ya get to touch too |
| 18:03.44 | Katty | ronaldl79: am i a tinkerer? no |
| 18:03.47 | Katty | ronaldl79: i'm a professional |
| 18:03.55 | Katty | or so i claim |
| 18:03.56 | astoria | iCEBrkr: no, i'm going to channelize your PRI |
| 18:04.03 | syle | whos a professional? |
| 18:04.04 | mutilator | heh |
| 18:04.05 | Katty | or so the company claims, i suppose |
| 18:04.08 | ronaldl79 | Well, since you seem to prefer Nortel, I figured you only tinkered with *. |
| 18:04.12 | iCEBrkr | astoria: Mmmmmph! keep talking dirty! |
| 18:04.17 | mutilator | in the size -1 font italicizd "or so i claim" |
| 18:04.26 | Katty | ronaldl79: presumptious |
| 18:04.36 | Katty | ronaldl79: if you want to know the truth about anything, i'm not going into voIP stuff |
| 18:04.43 | Katty | ronaldl79: i'm going into aerospace, robotics, and engineering |
| 18:04.50 | Katty | voIP is fun though. |
| 18:04.58 | mutilator | meh |
| 18:05.08 | mutilator | the local HS sent me a letter the other day |
| 18:05.09 | Katty | especially when athmn fixes my screws up for me. teehee! |
| 18:05.11 | *** join/#asterisk hanged (n=mefisto@gwvita.venta.lv) |
| 18:05.19 | mutilator | they're thinkin about entering one of them robotics competitions |
| 18:05.22 | mutilator | and they want me as a mentor |
| 18:05.47 | Katty | mutilator: i could use a mentor |
| 18:05.47 | syle | tell ronald to get into realestate if he enjoys physical labor, sounds like he likes hardware over software |
| 18:06.14 | ronaldl79 | Syle .... I do a number of technology related professions. |
| 18:06.16 | mutilator | i figured it might be a cool experience |
| 18:06.39 | Katty | mutilator: or, just plain fun |
| 18:06.58 | syle | is masterbation one of them? |
| 18:06.59 | mutilator | noo |
| 18:07.02 | *** join/#asterisk cripito (n=ncripito@67.96.197.99) |
| 18:07.16 | syle | naw you;d be a billionare then lol |
| 18:07.18 | ronaldl79 | I got started with VoIP 10 years ago, and * is just the icing on the cake for me. I see it as a new toy that's full of potential...and I do tinker...in addition to consulting. That's how I learn. |
| 18:07.23 | *** join/#asterisk [ViRii] (n=virii@68-186-170-246.dhcp.smrt.tn.charter.com) |
| 18:07.24 | cripito | hi... who is currently managing the development of ooh323? |
| 18:07.31 | [ViRii] | hey how to configure asterisk and my soundcard =P |
| 18:08.06 | syle | asterisk beleive it or not is not that popular in the US |
| 18:08.10 | syle | more in europe |
| 18:08.35 | Katty | the world consumes 84 million barrels of oil a day. |
| 18:08.44 | Katty | but we only /find/ about 42 barrels a day. |
| 18:08.52 | Katty | is anyone else freaked out about this? |
| 18:09.07 | KriS83 | Oct 17 20:08:39 WARNING[25166]: channel.c:492 ast_channel_walk_locked: Avoided initial deadlock for 'CAPI[contr1/27]/1', 10 retries! <-- what does this mean? |
| 18:09.08 | syle | that doesn;t make sense |
| 18:09.08 | mutilator | Katty: no.. |
| 18:09.22 | cripito | katty i think everybody ..... specially when u have to pay gas :D |
| 18:09.45 | mutilator | why be concerned about something you have absolutely no control over? |
| 18:10.12 | Katty | mutilator: because, like most, i bet you're worried about taking care of yourself, your family, and having enough money to live |
| 18:10.20 | Katty | mutilator: yet, often enough, sometimes you have no control over that either. |
| 18:10.29 | mutilator | yes |
| 18:10.32 | mutilator | i said 'absolutely' |
| 18:10.43 | Katty | and your point is? |
| 18:11.02 | mutilator | meaning i do have more control over what happens to myself my family and money situation |
| 18:11.15 | astoria | Talking about oil, there is a lot of activity going on up in Edmonton right now... |
| 18:11.23 | mutilator | and affects are more immediate in all 3 cases |
| 18:11.34 | astoria | Appartently, the oil companies have figured out a way to get oil out of sand/tar in Edmonton/northern CA. |
| 18:11.36 | ender | Katty: yes, I am slightly, which is why my next car purchase will either be hybrid or run on bio-diesel. |
| 18:12.00 | astoria | I do a lot of stuff for unions. |
| 18:12.00 | mutilator | i wish electric cars weren't so ugly |
| 18:12.06 | cripito | if i can find a car that runs in sugar..... that will be my next buy :P |
| 18:12.08 | mutilator | about the only nice one is a civic hybrid |
| 18:12.15 | ender | mutilator: the Toyota SUV isn't bad. |
| 18:12.16 | *** join/#asterisk shido6 (n=shido6@d221-68-210.commercial.cgocable.net) |
| 18:12.43 | mutilator | wha? |
| 18:12.55 | mutilator | the prius? |
| 18:13.24 | *** join/#asterisk fiber0pti (n=johndoe@pcp01876618pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net) |
| 18:13.37 | fiber0pti | is there any estimated date when 1.2 will be stable? |
| 18:13.58 | mutilator | the new prius isn't too bad |
| 18:14.04 | mutilator | last years model was omg puke |
| 18:14.15 | bweschke | fiber0pti: when it's "stable" |
| 18:14.26 | ender | mutilator: Highlander Hybrid |
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| 18:14.33 | cripito | is quite stable for me at least |
| 18:14.51 | bweschke | fiber0pti: there's a number of bugs the Digium team would still like to close out/eliminate before 1.2 is called a release |
| 18:15.01 | mutilator | oh |
| 18:15.09 | bweschke | best thing that can be done to help this effort along right now is to keep downloading the 1.2 betas and testing away |
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| 18:15.12 | mutilator | yea.. |
| 18:15.16 | mutilator | 33k for a vehicle |
| 18:15.19 | mutilator | >:| |
| 18:15.31 | ender | mutilator: how much gas is saved though? |
| 18:15.42 | *** join/#asterisk jarnaud (n=jarnaud@216.143.37.5) |
| 18:15.56 | ender | mutilator: if you only buy 10 gallons a month instead of 30 gallons. |
| 18:16.37 | jarnaud | does someone know if SetCIDName can work on calls generated thru var-spool-asterisk-outgoing ? |
| 18:16.51 | mutilator | 2WD: 33/28/30 |
| 18:16.51 | mutilator | 4WD: 31/27/29 |
| 18:16.57 | mutilator | 17 gallon tank |
| 18:17.20 | mutilator | prius is.. |
| 18:17.21 | mutilator | 60/51/55 |
| 18:17.27 | mutilator | city/highway/combine |
| 18:17.28 | iCEBrkr | Vespa's are cool these days :P |
| 18:17.38 | mutilator | 12gal tank |
| 18:17.51 | mutilator | 60mpg would be crazy |
| 18:17.57 | mutilator | i could go a month on a tank of gas |
| 18:18.05 | ender | mutilator: yeah, prius is better MPG than the Highlander. |
| 18:18.11 | websae | a little chevy geo gets 60miles/gallon |
| 18:18.12 | ender | honestly, I"d rather go bio-diesel. |
| 18:18.20 | websae | runs unleaded |
| 18:18.33 | ender | 0 dependance on fossil fuels. |
| 18:18.34 | mutilator | ender: but how many places sell it |
| 18:18.37 | mutilator | o_O |
| 18:18.44 | ender | mutilator: quite a few around Seattle. |
| 18:18.52 | mutilator | ya.. and when ya leave the city? |
| 18:18.56 | mutilator | rant a car? |
| 18:18.58 | mutilator | rent* |
| 18:19.03 | *** join/#asterisk Tili (i=Tili@202-133-67-167-dialup.sat.net.pk) |
| 18:19.04 | cripito | my card takes 45 usd for tank... so I AM VERY CONCERN |
| 18:19.06 | ender | use regular diesel |
| 18:19.30 | snitt | mutilator: is this gallon/100 miles? |
| 18:19.31 | ender | mutilator: you can use regular or bio. engine doesn't really care. |
| 18:19.37 | mutilator | websae: a geo won't seat 5 ppl tho |
| 18:19.44 | Luhiwu | anyone knows how many liter are there in a gallon? |
| 18:20.01 | ender | 4 I though. |
| 18:20.03 | snitt | en europe we measure consumption in l/100 km |
| 18:20.24 | Luhiwu | ender: tnx |
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| 18:20.29 | ender | 1 US gallon = 3.7854118 litres |
| 18:20.34 | snitt | ender: i know |
| 18:20.50 | mutilator | and a prius has all kinda cool gadgets inside it |
| 18:20.57 | Katty | ender: (= |
| 18:21.13 | Katty | ender: one of my friends at nasa is doign that to his car. |
| 18:21.19 | Katty | ender: apparently you can buy some sort of kit thingy |
| 18:21.28 | ender | I ride a motorcycle to save gas. 50~ MPG for me. |
| 18:21.35 | mutilator | heh |
| 18:21.36 | Katty | ender: ENV bike? |
| 18:21.42 | mutilator | lot of us here live in northern michigan |
| 18:21.43 | brad_mssw | anyone have comments on TelIAX ? |
| 18:21.44 | mutilator | and/or canda |
| 18:21.46 | ender | Katty: yeah, but for the rest of us, we can just buy a care pre-configured for it. |
| 18:21.46 | Katty | ender: they run on hydrogen...slightly deadly, but at least they're pellets |
| 18:21.53 | mutilator | -northern |
| 18:21.57 | ender | Katty: nope, standard bike. |
| 18:21.59 | Katty | ender: k |
| 18:22.03 | syle | hmm shit, if i do Goto(blah,s,1) the ${EXTEN} gets changed to s, how do i make it not do this? |
| 18:22.09 | Katty | ender: you should have a look at those ENV bikes. they're hothothot |
| 18:22.32 | ender | Katty: not a lot of hydrogen stations between me and work... |
| 18:22.40 | mutilator | syle: i dunno, a show status shows my extensions are s when using macro's to dial a call too |
| 18:23.12 | syle | i guess maybe only way to do it is pass ${EXTEN} as an argument to a macro |
| 18:23.32 | Katty | ender: not yet, anyway |
| 18:24.12 | mutilator | only thing if i got a prius |
| 18:24.19 | mutilator | about the only one to work on it would be a dealership |
| 18:25.07 | Hmmhesays | tearing down the highway like a big ol' dinosaur |
| 18:25.59 | ender | Katty: they don't look very comfortable, nor freeway safe. |
| 18:26.04 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPower (n=ewieling@adsl-67-65-233-194.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) |
| 18:26.04 | Katty | ender: k |
| 18:26.19 | *** join/#asterisk r0d3nt (i=nobody@wsip-24-234-241-145.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 18:26.27 | *** join/#asterisk logicalonline (n=Ken@209.242.52.25) |
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| 18:29.43 | Hmmhesays | Hey Katty |
| 18:30.25 | syle | oww great |
| 18:30.34 | logicalonline | hello, I'm having difficulties with directed pickup. i have call from sip provider coming in as exten => +18885551212,1,Dial(SIP/1019). i call the pickup app exten => _4xxxx,1,Pickup(${EXTEN:1}) but nothing happens. I did show channels and i see 1 chan from provider and 1 chan from ast to 1019. On the chan going to 1019 the PBX: Extension param is blank. Any ideas how to fix this? |
| 18:30.38 | syle | h extension don;t work in a macro |
| 18:31.15 | IronHelix | logicalonline do you have pickupgroups defined? if not you need them |
| 18:31.24 | logicalonline | even for Pickup() ? |
| 18:32.36 | ManxPower | logicalonline, especially for Pickup I believe |
| 18:32.41 | ManxPower | What do you see on the console? |
| 18:32.52 | ManxPower | you should see Pickup being run with the correct option |
| 18:33.20 | morale | in the extensions.conf.. the Wait statement is for rings or seconds? Wait,10 ? |
| 18:34.11 | logicalonline | -- Executing Pickup("SIP/1002-e9d8", "1019") in new stack |
| 18:34.51 | syle | shouldn;t have be a bug or something, h extension not working in macro calls? alright well i guess i need a way to pass EXTEN without a macro using a Goto statement |
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| 18:35.06 | ManxPower | logicalonline, good. now go fix your pickupgroups and callgroups |
| 18:35.45 | ManxPower | syle, I suspect exten => h would be run in the main context the macro was called from, rather than the macro. Or maybe the other weay around. |
| 18:35.53 | logicalonline | ManxPower: i'm confused... http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Pickup says they aren't needed. |
| 18:36.48 | ManxPower | logicalonline, Odd. they changed it. then your problem is prolly the lack of an @context |
| 18:37.34 | logicalonline | tried various contexts no go |
| 18:37.40 | syle | most likely, but that won;t work with what i;m doing in the macro |
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| 18:38.42 | hardwire | sip show peers where ip = |
| 18:38.42 | hardwire | would be cool |
| 18:38.51 | [ViRii] | hey guys im having problems compiling zaptel on a debian distro |
| 18:38.52 | hardwire | or sip show peers where status = |
| 18:38.55 | [ViRii] | any ideas? |
| 18:39.24 | Ahrimanes | hardwire: hm i'm working on something that might be useful for that |
| 18:40.24 | hardwire | Ahrimanes: realtime status to SQL? |
| 18:40.47 | ManxPower | logicalonline, maybe it just doesn't work. 8-) |
| 18:40.51 | hardwire | [ViRii]: what dist of debian? |
| 18:40.54 | kshumard | [ViRii], what problems are you having? |
| 18:41.58 | Ahrimanes | hardwire: well "realtime" might be much said.. but close.. am monitoring registrations, unregistrations and extensions going unreachable and gathering the information at these events |
| 18:43.02 | logicalonline | i think the prob is that the app is searching by extension and the prob is that when i do show channels the extension field is blank for the sip phone its dialing |
| 18:44.49 | [ViRii] | ubuntu |
| 18:45.12 | shido6 | i used to use ubuntu |
| 18:45.17 | shido6 | till I installed osx intel |
| 18:46.16 | [ViRii] | and had no problems getting asterisk to work under it? |
| 18:46.36 | astoria | [virii] you need to be more specific. |
| 18:46.51 | [ViRii] | k |
| 18:47.35 | Ahrimanes | hardwire: poke me here in a few days and i should have it done |
| 18:48.25 | *** join/#asterisk PMantis (n=pmantis@cpe-69-204-25-153.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 18:49.10 | PMantis | I''m looking for a new DUNDi peer... Where we can get eyond dundi-test rather quickly |
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| 18:52.09 | *** part/#asterisk logicalonline (n=Ken@209.242.52.25) |
| 18:53.02 | morale | ooo.. i see whats wrong possibly, some providers i cannot connect to because they don't support gsm techology.. would that make sense? |
| 18:54.32 | ManxPower | morale, Um...yes. |
| 18:54.44 | ManxPower | the console message would tell you that. |
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| 18:54.51 | cripito | ahrimanes can be done... check this out http://www.cripiland.com/screenshots/manager3.jpg |
| 18:55.28 | hardwire | Ahrimanes: you will be poked |
| 18:57.16 | cripito | by the way.. when u make a sipshowpeers using astmanproxy in a system with 500 phones :) BUMM |
| 18:57.54 | cripito | and don't even try to doit directly to the asterisk server (5038) |
| 18:59.29 | *** join/#asterisk fugitivo (n=ajf@209.13.243.83) |
| 18:59.32 | hardwire | ok |
| 18:59.36 | hardwire | anybody here have snoms on PoE? |
| 18:59.37 | mutilator | ok |
| 19:00.06 | *** join/#asterisk shido6 (n=curtis@d221-68-210.commercial.cgocable.net) |
| 19:00.44 | cripito | any one knowns what will be the standard for the asterisk proxy? astmanproxy looks pretty good till the moment |
| 19:02.06 | *** join/#asterisk CoffeeIV_ (n=CoffeeIV@mail.airlinksystems.com) |
| 19:04.35 | CoffeeIV_ | my asterisk says that the application "rxfax" isn't there -- how do I add it ? |
| 19:04.56 | astoria | CoffeeIV_: Did you compile rxfax.c and txfax.c when you compiled asterisk? |
| 19:05.14 | *** join/#asterisk Dutts (n=dutts@81.168.70.41) |
| 19:05.50 | astoria | You have to specially download those and put them in the apps directory before you compile asterisk. |
| 19:05.50 | CoffeeIV_ | probably not -- should I have given a special option to ./configure ? |
| 19:06.09 | astoria | No. You have to get those from coppice's website and manually compile them and patch the makefile. |
| 19:06.30 | astoria | and you have to compile spandsp first.. |
| 19:06.35 | Dutts | hey guys if I do a top on my * system how many mpg123 processes shoudl I see? my system seems to have over 20!!!! when I kill them, more spawn!!! |
| 19:06.58 | CoffeeIV_ | astoria -- thanks, I'll do that now -- yeah I install spandsp when I installed asterisk I didn't realize I would need to download something else though |
| 19:07.01 | cripito | anyone using festival? |
| 19:07.11 | *** join/#asterisk Ferrari (n=Ferrari_@rrcs-24-123-226-241.central.biz.rr.com) |
| 19:07.19 | Ferrari | good day list |
| 19:07.19 | *** join/#asterisk silug (n=steve@206.80.72.34) |
| 19:07.20 | astoria | Yeah, you need to get rxfax.c and txfax.c from coppice's website .. |
| 19:07.37 | Ferrari | anyone in here familiar with the valetparking app |
| 19:07.55 | astoria | Nice pun. Ferrari, asking about valetparking :) |
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| 19:09.30 | CoffeeIV_ | astoria -- what's coppice's web site ? |
| 19:09.48 | Ferrari | oh well i was hoping someone in here could give me a hand as i have found an issue where the app seg faults asterisk |
| 19:10.09 | astoria | CoffeeIV_: http://soft-switch.org/downloads/spandsp/ |
| 19:10.38 | shido6 | Dutts - over 20 |
| 19:10.39 | CoffeeIV_ | astoria -- thanks |
| 19:10.44 | shido6 | thats a little much |
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| 19:15.18 | ian_k | Ferrari - do you seriously have a "valetparking" app? I'm thinking it segfaults because it might not exist. |
| 19:15.38 | Juxt | hello |
| 19:15.45 | generalhan | anyone in here using the asternic FOP ??? |
| 19:15.54 | Juxt | quick question - i'd like to set my sip extensions in a separate file |
| 19:16.02 | Juxt | voip-wiki mentions #include function |
| 19:16.09 | Juxt | for some reason it doesn't seem to be working for me |
| 19:16.12 | wunderkin | * should not seg fault if an app doesn't exist, if so that is a serious bug |
| 19:17.42 | iCEBrkr | Read() drops you to 't' when you press #.. Interesting. :P |
| 19:17.56 | ian_k | wunderkin I'm not saying the file doesn't exist... but what exactly is in the file? |
| 19:18.46 | iCEBrkr | ian_k: if the app didn't exist, it wouldn't try to execute it. It'd say the application doesn't exist. |
| 19:18.58 | ManxPower | Ferrari, Are you using CVS-HEAD or 1.2beta? did you delete the apps that it listed when you did a "make install"? |
| 19:19.23 | ManxPower | wunderkin, It's only an issue if you do a load => app_bad.so in /etc/asterisk/modules.conf |
| 19:19.34 | Ferrari | ian_k it existss and rocks with one exception that i have encountered |
| 19:19.46 | Ferrari | the author has provided a very flexible parking app |
| 19:19.47 | morale | Oct 17 13:13:52 WARNING[10910]: chan_iax2.c:6913 socket_read: Call rejected by 139.142.184.136: No such context/extension - Does that mean on the server side it is not setup? |
| 19:20.13 | *** join/#asterisk Assid (i=assid@59.183.60.210) |
| 19:20.17 | ManxPower | morale, that means that the user/pass/extension you are providing when you make the connection doesn't match anything the server has |
| 19:21.06 | morale | it looks like this voip provider doesn't allow 1800 numbers to passthrough and some cell phone prefixes |
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| 19:21.23 | ManxPower | morale, Well ask them. |
| 19:21.37 | ManxPower | For the most part a provider will either require all 10 digit dialing or all 11 digit dialing |
| 19:21.51 | morale | yeah i put in all 11 digits |
| 19:22.32 | iCEBrkr | Just get used to 11 digit dialing and use your dialplan to strip the leading 1+ if needed :) |
| 19:22.57 | iCEBrkr | or better yet.. Stuff the 1 in the dialplan as needed :P |
| 19:23.01 | ManxPower | I have my own dialplan rules defined, then I fiddle with the digits as required for the provider |
| 19:23.25 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: You do that in your dial plan so you don't have to think about it when you actually pick up and dial, correct? |
| 19:23.41 | ManxPower | iCEBrkr, correct. |
| 19:23.57 | *** join/#asterisk bronc (i=bronc@phalse.2600.COM) |
| 19:25.00 | *** join/#asterisk opus__ (n=opus@dahphish.org) |
| 19:25.01 | opus__ | hello |
| 19:25.02 | opus__ | [app_capiECT.so]Oct 17 12:34:33 WARNING[13473]: loader.c:314 __load_resource: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/app_capiECT.so: undefined symbol: capi_call |
| 19:25.03 | ManxPower | for example, all extensions are [2-7]XXX, special access is 9NXX, all local calls are 9NXXXXXX, all other calls are 91NXXNXXXXXX |
| 19:25.12 | opus__ | any seen that error? i re-ran ldconfig.. |
| 19:25.21 | ian_k | set |
| 19:25.27 | bronc | has any of the presentations from Astricon been put online yet? |
| 19:25.31 | ManxPower | I put in a few exceptions like allowing 911 as well as 9911, since in an emergency someone may not remember the leading 9 |
| 19:25.46 | iCEBrkr | Yeah |
| 19:26.03 | fugitivo | and 99111 and 991111 and 9111 and 91111 and ... |
| 19:26.11 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 19:26.16 | iCEBrkr | For people who are panicing? |
| 19:26.20 | fugitivo | right |
| 19:26.20 | ManxPower | Then I try to make sure I have at least 1 red wall phone that totally bypasses the PBX and goes directly to a local PSTN POTS line |
| 19:26.49 | *** part/#asterisk opus__ (n=opus@dahphish.org) |
| 19:26.50 | ManxPower | We usually need one for the alarm system or fax anyway |
| 19:27.29 | ManxPower | Also, because of the STUPID tarrifs you get much cheaper Data T-1s if there's also voice on it, so we make sure to put at least 1 voice channel on them when we can. |
| 19:27.47 | ManxPower | that drops the cost like %33 |
| 19:27.57 | fugitivo | really? |
| 19:28.07 | bronc | astricon presetations? anyone? |
| 19:28.10 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: Interesting |
| 19:28.11 | *** part/#asterisk Juxt (n=Juxt@sfl-dsl-64-135-113-4-cust.host.net) |
| 19:28.11 | ManxPower | fugitivo, it depends on the LATA and the ILEC/CLEC |
| 19:28.13 | bronc | not online yet? |
| 19:28.25 | syle | 1000 milliseconds in a second or 10000? |
| 19:28.36 | iCEBrkr | 1000 |
| 19:28.41 | syle | ty |
| 19:29.16 | ManxPower | In Bellsouth territory, for the New Orleans LATA, our CELC can get Unbundled Local Loop pricing if you have voice on the line. |
| 19:29.16 | generalhan | Can anyone tell me how to change the button color of 1 single button for the asternic FOP ??? |
| 19:29.55 | ManxPower | Which, is apparently cheaper than non-UBLL. |
| 19:30.31 | Katty | mew |
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| 19:31.26 | *** part/#asterisk Ferrari (n=Ferrari_@rrcs-24-123-226-241.central.biz.rr.com) |
| 19:31.30 | bronc | good old irc.. |
| 19:31.41 | bronc | you so can't teach an old dog new tricks |
| 19:32.04 | iCEBrkr | "IRC is just a multi-user notepad" |
| 19:32.18 | bronc | heh |
| 19:32.27 | bronc | i've heard a much better analogy for it |
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| 19:32.41 | iCEBrkr | Eh, I saw the quote somewhere, it made me chuckle :P |
| 19:32.46 | bronc | "If morons were airplanes, IRC would be an airport" |
| 19:32.50 | iCEBrkr | lol |
| 19:32.54 | bronc | hehe |
| 19:34.04 | *** part/#asterisk PMantis (n=pmantis@cpe-69-204-25-153.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 19:34.29 | [ViRii] | hey guys i want to do overhead paging and cant get my console soundcard to work is there a box i can buy that is a registered extension that does all this for me? |
| 19:35.01 | iCEBrkr | Hrrm, I never thought about overhead paging. |
| 19:35.13 | *** join/#asterisk mogorman (n=mogorman@gateway.digium.com) |
| 19:35.35 | msw | MOG! |
| 19:35.37 | bronc | virii is an 31337 nick |
| 19:35.46 | mogorman | YO! |
| 19:35.53 | mogorman | what you doing in here msw |
| 19:36.03 | ManxPower | [ViRii], there are several devices that plug into an FXS port. |
| 19:36.03 | Katty | mew? |
| 19:36.04 | msw | mogorman: dude, I've always been here. |
| 19:36.04 | syle | is it not possible to change values like EXTEN ACCOUNTCODE within a dialplan? |
| 19:36.08 | msw | mogorman: watching |
| 19:36.11 | msw | mogorman: waiting |
| 19:36.15 | mogorman | lol |
| 19:36.17 | mogorman | eery |
| 19:36.18 | ManxPower | syle, you mean SetAccount doesn't work/ |
| 19:36.32 | ManxPower | you change the value of EXTEN by using a goto |
| 19:36.52 | syle | Set(_myexten=${EXTEN}) |
| 19:36.55 | syle | then i did a goto |
| 19:37.03 | syle | was able to access myexten |
| 19:37.07 | [ViRii] | bronc: very :P |
| 19:37.23 | syle | setaccount hmmm , i;ll check it out |
| 19:37.42 | [ViRii] | manx: several that perform the tasks i want? what are the price ranges / manufactures.. |
| 19:38.17 | ManxPower | [ViRii], I don'tknow. Check the mailing list archive. It's been discussed. |
| 19:38.26 | ManxPower | search for something like overhead pfx |
| 19:38.28 | [ViRii] | k |
| 19:38.28 | ManxPower | ..er. |
| 19:38.31 | ManxPower | overhead fxs |
| 19:38.42 | bronc | so far I've been able to find the presentation about asterisk 1.2 from the con and that's it.. |
| 19:38.45 | bronc | weak... |
| 19:39.07 | *** join/#asterisk Starmaker (n=magnus@85.8.2.169) |
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| 19:43.47 | Katty | SarahEmm: :> |
| 19:44.43 | fugitivo | anyone tried voicepulse using a pap2-na? |
| 19:45.05 | syle | manxpower |
| 19:45.18 | syle | is there like a setaccount for EXTEN at all? |
| 19:45.25 | syle | i;d like my cdr to be accurate |
| 19:45.30 | iCEBrkr | Hrrm, this is odd. SetVar() sets a variable that's readable between context's, right?? It's supposed to set the variable for that channel.. |
| 19:45.30 | Mad_Hornet | Any suggestions on a company that handles SIP terminations? We need a new provider very quickly... |
| 19:45.31 | syle | instead of being "s" |
| 19:45.56 | Corydon-w | iCEBrkr: what's odd about that? |
| 19:46.03 | SarahEmm | Mad_Hornet: where do you need your DIDs? |
| 19:46.07 | SarahEmm | hihihihi katty! |
| 19:46.19 | Mad_Hornet | Baton Rouge and New Orleans... |
| 19:46.28 | iCEBrkr | Corydon-w: Well, I guess I could have worded that better.. I have to do more testing, but it seems like when I switch contexts, my variable isn't set anymore. |
| 19:46.39 | syle | goto(blah,s,1) but i want original EXTEN logged into cdr |
| 19:46.46 | Corydon-w | Are you using the Local channel? |
| 19:46.47 | mutilator | man |
| 19:46.55 | mutilator | this guy on 'radio free colorado' |
| 19:46.59 | mutilator | shoutcast station |
| 19:47.04 | mutilator | rants a lot about donators |
| 19:47.19 | iCEBrkr | Corydon-w: local channel? |
| 19:47.30 | mutilator | then when he gets a donation he's all "we have a donator, much appreciated" then goes on ranting about getting more donations |
| 19:47.30 | bronc | SomaFM is an awesome shoutcast channel |
| 19:47.36 | bronc | out of San Fran |
| 19:47.39 | mutilator | classic rock? |
| 19:47.39 | iCEBrkr | bronc: yup yup! |
| 19:47.46 | mutilator | i need a classic rock station |
| 19:47.55 | Corydon-w | iCEBrkr: yeah, if you're using the Local channel, variables aren't inherited |
| 19:48.01 | bronc | somafm has an AI for it's DJ |
| 19:48.05 | bronc | no talk :-p |
| 19:48.11 | mutilator | url? |
| 19:48.15 | iCEBrkr | bronc: big earl! |
| 19:48.22 | bronc | you using winamp? |
| 19:48.25 | iCEBrkr | www.somafm.com |
| 19:48.26 | mutilator | ya |
| 19:48.29 | bronc | just check the library |
| 19:48.34 | bronc | filter on Ambi |
| 19:48.49 | bronc | there are several people who carry it in various bitrates |
| 19:48.51 | iCEBrkr | somafm.com has the different channels listed. |
| 19:48.56 | bronc | ahh nice |
| 19:49.04 | iCEBrkr | and different bit rates |
| 19:49.11 | iCEBrkr | I was addicted to somafm for awhile. |
| 19:49.14 | mutilator | it's all electric/indie? |
| 19:49.30 | bronc | it's ambient |
| 19:49.34 | bronc | good working music |
| 19:49.41 | iCEBrkr | somafm == audio wallpaper |
| 19:49.56 | *** join/#asterisk RickTick (n=rpulido_@71.196.17.112) |
| 19:50.06 | mutilator | welll |
| 19:50.09 | SarahEmm | groove_salad++ |
| 19:50.10 | mutilator | which one ya recommend? |
| 19:50.17 | bronc | yep |
| 19:50.19 | mutilator | work music = vnv nation & wumpscut |
| 19:50.22 | iCEBrkr | Corydon-w: I'm kinda confused as to what a local channel is... I pick up my SIP phone, dial and the extensions.conf does the rest. |
| 19:50.28 | mutilator | but thats not office music.. |
| 19:50.36 | bronc | dang, lots of peeps in here listen to it |
| 19:50.48 | bronc | I thought I was special :-p |
| 19:51.01 | syle | ohh props to zapateller |
| 19:51.07 | Corydon-w | Dial(Local/ext@context) |
| 19:51.08 | syle | just caught one |
| 19:51.09 | iCEBrkr | bronc: Just cuz you ride the shortbus doesn't mean..errrr umm.. |
| 19:51.15 | syle | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.15 | syle | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.17 | syle | :) |
| 19:51.20 | SarahEmm | mutilator: vnv nation is in my office ;) but i work in a NOC... |
| 19:51.23 | bronc | hehe |
| 19:51.31 | iCEBrkr | Corydon-w: Oh, that, I'm not doing. |
| 19:51.32 | mutilator | mus be nice |
| 19:51.39 | mutilator | i'de love to blast some vnv nation |
| 19:51.45 | RickTick | hello all: What is the best FX0 4 or 8 port standalone remote administer gateway ... that fully supports Asterisk? |
| 19:51.48 | bronc | i run a noc |
| 19:51.49 | mutilator | good concentration music |
| 19:51.54 | bronc | but i've got noc monkeys :) |
| 19:51.54 | hardwire | nyet! |
| 19:52.06 | hardwire | bronc: noc noc. |
| 19:52.13 | iCEBrkr | bad. |
| 19:52.21 | hardwire | c'mon. |
| 19:53.03 | bronc | lol |
| 19:53.30 | hardwire | say.. who's there.. |
| 19:53.32 | SarahEmm | bronc: i *am* a nocmonkey :) |
| 19:53.34 | hardwire | c'mon. |
| 19:53.36 | SarahEmm | well, more of a NOCstrick |
| 19:53.37 | SarahEmm | err |
| 19:53.38 | SarahEmm | nocstrich :) |
| 19:53.53 | bronc | i'm sorry :( |
| 19:54.01 | RickTick | Anyone using a 4/8 port fxo gateway with asterisk? I need a reccomendation... on a cheap/reliable brand |
| 19:54.13 | *** join/#asterisk stkn_ (i=nobody@gentoo/developer/pdpc.active.stkn) |
| 19:54.19 | hardwire | use two tdm400's ? |
| 19:54.37 | *** join/#asterisk sigwerk (n=sigwerk@athena.rootednetworks.com) |
| 19:54.40 | bronc | i've never been a noc 'worker' |
| 19:55.53 | RickTick | I prefer a standalone gateway ...less maintenance |
| 19:58.43 | SarahEmm | ahh |
| 19:59.05 | *** join/#asterisk [virii] (n=virii@68-186-170-246.dhcp.smrt.tn.charter.com) |
| 19:59.06 | bronc | i'm sorry :( |
| 19:59.12 | bronc | x2 |
| 19:59.21 | *** join/#asterisk fulgas (n=fulgas@a81-84-116-219.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 19:59.23 | bronc | can |
| 19:59.39 | bronc | do you have a floriscent light tan? |
| 20:00.06 | [virii] | /etc/zaptel.conf\" -c -o fxotune.o fxotune.c |
| 20:00.06 | [virii] | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.06 | [virii] | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.06 | [virii] | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.06 | [virii] | make: *** [linux26] Error 2 |
| 20:00.16 | [virii] | how to compile zaptel? |
| 20:00.31 | fugitivo | first you should use pastebin |
| 20:00.33 | fugitivo | ~pastebin |
| 20:00.35 | jbot | pastebin is, like, a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 20:00.37 | morale | SarahEmm, your in here too? |
| 20:00.43 | [virii] | sry =P |
| 20:00.50 | bronc | try Alt-F4 |
| 20:00.51 | morale | SarahEmm, its russell from calgary :) |
| 20:00.56 | bronc | that usually helps |
| 20:01.00 | [virii] | heh |
| 20:01.03 | bronc | :-p |
| 20:01.25 | SarahEmm | morale: LOL! |
| 20:01.27 | SarahEmm | morale: hey! |
| 20:01.36 | SarahEmm | morale: yeah, i do a little bit of devel work on * |
| 20:01.55 | SarahEmm | morale: i bump into a lot of people from work here :P |
| 20:02.56 | morale | right on.. |
| 20:03.29 | jarrod | hey anyone have a problem with moments of silence during conversation where you cant hear the remote party but they can hear you |
| 20:03.36 | jarrod | like interuptions in the RTP stream? |
| 20:03.50 | CoffeeIV_ | I just got the app_rxfax and app_txfax compiled, and I have spandsp installed (I think) -- but when I receive a fax * doesn't "sync up" with the other fax machine and start receiving. It gets as far as "executing RcFax" ( at the *CLI> prompt) and then it just pauses until the other machine gives up. |
| 20:04.06 | CoffeeIV_ | how can I debug that ? |
| 20:06.06 | mutilator | me no like this somafm |
| 20:06.18 | mutilator | some of these remind me of what you'de play in a haunted house |
| 20:06.27 | mutilator | i need my classic rock |
| 20:06.39 | mutilator | some gool ol stairway to heaven |
| 20:06.47 | *** join/#asterisk MRH2 (n=Mr_happy@fcirc-adsl.demon.co.uk) |
| 20:07.52 | MRH2 | hey! anyone know what a "TAM" in a phone exchange is? as in "...spare cable pairs on the TAM in the exchange..." |
| 20:08.05 | mutilator | holy crap all this guy is doing is complaining for 10 minutes |
| 20:08.08 | mutilator | then playing a song |
| 20:08.11 | mutilator | and doing it all over |
| 20:08.35 | mutilator | "just because you donate $20 doesn't mean you can make suggestions, who gives you the right, GOD?" |
| 20:08.41 | mutilator | like wth |
| 20:09.08 | mutilator | http://67.43.161.248:7000 |
| 20:09.09 | Mad_Hornet | Any suggestions on a company that handles SIP terminations? We need a new provider very quickly in Baton Rouge and New Orleans... |
| 20:09.09 | mutilator | omg |
| 20:09.11 | mutilator | listen to this guy |
| 20:09.25 | *** join/#asterisk `Sauron (i=sauron@h-69-3-12-50.hstqtx02.covad.net) |
| 20:10.27 | astoria | MRH2: http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=define%3A+TAM&btnG=Google+Search |
| 20:10.44 | SarahEmm | MRH2: Test Access Matrix |
| 20:10.45 | CoffeeIV_ | I have a question for someone who can receive faxes -- if you do ldd on your asterisk executable, does it show libspandsp.so in the output ? |
| 20:11.07 | jarrod | did you set faxdetect to both |
| 20:11.08 | jarrod | coffee |
| 20:11.18 | MRH2 | cool that makes sense Sarah |
| 20:11.31 | wunderkin | mutilator :) |
| 20:11.44 | MRH2 | thanx |
| 20:11.51 | mutilator | anyone listenin to this? |
| 20:11.51 | CoffeeIV_ | jarrod: no I htink that's it -- let me try that change |
| 20:11.57 | SarahEmm | MRH2: np |
| 20:12.06 | mutilator | "anyone using a gmail account, are you hiding from the world?" |
| 20:12.07 | *** join/#asterisk logicalonline (n=Ken@209.242.52.25) |
| 20:12.36 | mutilator | he's totally bashing his listeners |
| 20:12.39 | mutilator | this is crazy |
| 20:13.23 | wunderkin | yeah |
| 20:13.37 | wunderkin | right |
| 20:14.54 | CoffeeIV_ | jarrod -- I did not have faxdetect set, but I just set it to both and restarted asterisk, no difference |
| 20:14.55 | wunderkin | ok dumbass |
| 20:15.00 | hardwire | mutilator: who? |
| 20:15.20 | *** join/#asterisk gorauskas (n=gorauska@206-176-255-74.vbbn.com) |
| 20:15.40 | mutilator | http://67.43.161.248:7000 |
| 20:15.57 | mutilator | this shoutcast... it used to be a good rock station |
| 20:15.57 | wunderkin | hes complaining about everything in the world |
| 20:16.13 | wunderkin | about the donations he should get a corporate sponsor.. duh |
| 20:16.33 | mutilator | ya shoulda heard it earlier |
| 20:16.42 | bronc | time to turn into a different shoutcast |
| 20:16.56 | mutilator | "i just paid $450 of my own money to buy a microphone for you fuckers" |
| 20:17.07 | mutilator | "i'm tired of this, i donate too much of my own money" |
| 20:17.12 | *** join/#asterisk denon (i=denon@synapse.subneural.net) |
| 20:17.12 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o denon] by ChanServ |
| 20:17.15 | wunderkin | theres one ive run by that has a scion commercial all of the time |
| 20:17.28 | *** join/#asterisk zedas (i=zedshawc@pizarro.dreamhost.com) |
| 20:17.45 | bronc | not like anyone is asking him to do it |
| 20:17.48 | bronc | sheesh |
| 20:18.00 | zedas | hello folks. I'm wondering if there's a spec doc for the FastAGI protocol? |
| 20:20.57 | ManxPower | syle, use goto |
| 20:21.54 | ManxPower | for example in my macros I use exten => s,1,Goto(${MACRO_EXTEN},1) and then have a patern of something like exten => _XXXX,1,Whatever to do my real processing |
| 20:21.59 | mutilator | kinda funny listenin to this guy |
| 20:22.15 | steve___ | mutilator i wish he'd just play some music |
| 20:22.23 | wunderkin | i changed stations :D |
| 20:23.16 | *** join/#asterisk Renacor (n=kvirc@ip21.farheap.net) |
| 20:23.42 | Renacor | hi, anybody here familiar with polycom phones? |
| 20:24.00 | steve___ | mutilator i like the "for everyone of you that leaves, 10 more join.... just takes a month of so" |
| 20:24.06 | Mad_Hornet | renacor: a little |
| 20:24.33 | wunderkin | steve___: he probably has the livevoip attitude |
| 20:24.49 | SarahEmm | Renacor: yep. |
| 20:24.50 | Renacor | Mad_Hornet: Any idea how to set the codec preference in the configs ? |
| 20:25.24 | ManxPower | Renacor, I never use them. I force ulaw in the asterisk config and disallow all the others |
| 20:25.49 | Renacor | well I force gsm, but that doesn't stop the phones os from trying others |
| 20:25.58 | Mad_Hornet | Renacor: me too... We force ulaw... |
| 20:26.06 | steve___ | wunderkin yeah netting 9 customer in "a month or so" is sad :) |
| 20:26.21 | Renacor | and thus not working heh, I can change the config from the phones webserver, but I want it to boot up with the preferred codecs I choose |
| 20:27.07 | SarahEmm | Renacor: are you using xml configs or which? |
| 20:27.27 | bronc | time for lunch |
| 20:27.35 | *** join/#asterisk tehdely (n=delysiid@home.teambarry.org) |
| 20:27.46 | tehdely | asdf |
| 20:27.48 | ManxPower | Renacor, since the phones don't support GSM, that's not surizing. |
| 20:27.52 | bronc | fdsa |
| 20:27.54 | Renacor | yeah from a tftp |
| 20:27.58 | ManxPower | Renacor, Why do you need to use more than one codec with the phones/ |
| 20:28.03 | tehdely | bronc: aoeu |
| 20:28.11 | SarahEmm | Renacor: okay. they don't support gsm, btw. you can use g729, 711a, and 711u. |
| 20:28.20 | SarahEmm | Renacor: it's in sip.conf under <codecs> |
| 20:28.20 | Renacor | sorry it does G.711u then G.711A |
| 20:28.21 | bronc | ueoa |
| 20:28.30 | SarahEmm | Renacor: you shouldn't have to change it tho |
| 20:28.32 | SarahEmm | just force it in * |
| 20:28.34 | bronc | ipfreely |
| 20:28.39 | Renacor | I don't want them to use G729AB |
| 20:28.44 | SarahEmm | Renacor: then force it in * not to |
| 20:28.50 | SarahEmm | just allow 711u |
| 20:29.02 | Renacor | how can I force the phone |
| 20:29.11 | SarahEmm | in asterisk. |
| 20:29.11 | Renacor | cause the phone boots up with its own config |
| 20:29.16 | SarahEmm | i understand this |
| 20:29.19 | SarahEmm | but if you leave the default it'll work fine |
| 20:29.25 | *** part/#asterisk Mad_Hornet (n=trodasta@66.28.163.18) |
| 20:29.25 | SarahEmm | in asterisk, disallow all but the codec you want |
| 20:30.54 | Renacor | lemme try that |
| 20:31.06 | SarahEmm | what codec are you using renacor? |
| 20:31.19 | ManxPower | Renacor, Um, I haven not done ANY codec changes on my 60+ Polycom phones, but force them to use the codec I want by doing a disallow=all and allow=ualw in each [clahphone] entry in sip.conf. |
| 20:31.56 | Renacor | how do I set it up to allow only G.711u and G.711A |
| 20:32.14 | SarahEmm | do exactly what ManxPower just said. |
| 20:32.34 | ManxPower | Renacor, you don't usually want to support BOTH ulaw (G711u) an alaw (G711a) on the same phone. Can cause issues with asterisk and there is no reason to do so. |
| 20:33.05 | Renacor | G.711u would be fine |
| 20:33.10 | Renacor | thats ulaw Im guessing then |
| 20:33.58 | SarahEmm | yes |
| 20:34.27 | ManxPower | Renacor, correct. |
| 20:34.36 | Renacor | so disallow=all and allow=ulaw should fix the problem |
| 20:35.24 | ManxPower | Renacor, when the phone makes a call it will request all codecs it supports, asterisk will respond with all the codecs you have allow='d, and they will pick one of the codecs they have in common (in this case ulaw, since that's the only codec you told Asterisk to allow for that device. |
| 20:35.48 | Renacor | cool |
| 20:36.23 | Renacor | thank you guys |
| 20:45.03 | docE | Anyone know anything about static agents for app_queue? |
| 20:45.37 | mutilator | anyone in here use grub much? |
| 20:45.41 | mutilator | i can't get it to load into the mbr |
| 20:46.02 | docE | I know its done on install.. Check #linux |
| 20:46.33 | jontow | mutilator: ... start it manually and use the "setup" command ;) |
| 20:46.45 | jontow | alternately: this probably ain't the place |
| 20:47.10 | mutilator | heh |
| 20:47.19 | mutilator | i've already tried in #grub and #debian |
| 20:47.29 | *** join/#asterisk hypa7ia (i=hypatia@silenceisdefeat.org) |
| 20:48.04 | jontow | read the gentoo docs, they have a real quick into to manually setting up grub |
| 20:48.13 | jontow | just trust me, i was reading it earlier today, again.. |
| 20:48.20 | mutilator | well i've tried what i thought mught be the right way |
| 20:48.22 | mutilator | but it didn't work |
| 20:48.30 | *** join/#asterisk Mad_Hornet (n=trodasta@66.28.163.18) |
| 20:48.35 | mutilator | frickin with lilo all ya had to do was lilo -v |
| 20:48.43 | jontow | grub isn't that hard either |
| 20:48.48 | jontow | its just a different way of thinking |
| 20:49.34 | bsdfreak | heh |
| 20:49.35 | mutilator | install (hd0,4)/boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p (hd0,4)/boot/grub/menu.conf |
| 20:49.39 | mutilator | thats grubs method.. |
| 20:49.46 | mutilator | lilo -v or install (hd0,4)/boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p (hd0,4)/boot/grub/menu.conf |
| 20:49.58 | jontow | ah, didn't have to fuck with any of that.. ;) |
| 20:50.11 | jontow | then again, it may be gentoo making things nice and fun |
| 20:50.33 | jontow | but..: "emerge grub" .. "grub" .. "root (hd0,0)" .. "setup hd0" .. "quit" .. "reboot" |
| 20:50.37 | jontow | and it works |
| 20:50.41 | mutilator | maybe if i try hd4 instead of 0 |
| 20:51.37 | *** join/#asterisk enemy^x (i=lkqw@212.62.250.98) |
| 20:52.15 | enemy^x | presence, anyone know anything about how I can get this working with my asterisk and eyebeam softphone? |
| 20:52.59 | file[laptop] | enemy^x: it involves sacrificing a virgin to the computer god |
| 20:53.10 | file[laptop] | er I mean configuring extensions.conf with hints and stuff |
| 20:53.26 | ManxPower | enemy^x, There are rumors of people getting EyeBeam working with Asterisk, but I've never talked to one of those people personally. Your extensive search of the mailing list archives didn't turn up anything? |
| 20:54.18 | *** join/#asterisk Jakes (n=jakes@ndn-165-144-07.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 20:54.25 | *** join/#asterisk fulgas (n=fulgas@a81-84-116-219.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 20:54.43 | enemy^x | hmm... and what about publish? |
| 20:54.50 | file[laptop] | not supported |
| 20:55.20 | enemy^x | how to make it work outside asterisk? any other daemons I should run to get it to work? |
| 20:55.31 | ManxPower | enemy^x, SER? |
| 20:56.15 | enemy^x | asterisk / ser or both? |
| 20:56.22 | ManxPower | enemy^x, your best bet is to hack into X-Ten's database, find the e-mail addresses of everyone that has EyeBeam and mass mail them asking for help. |
| 20:56.59 | enemy^x | manxpower: why would I do that? |
| 20:57.12 | ManxPower | enemy^x, 'cause I doubt anyone here runs EyeBeam |
| 20:57.23 | file[laptop] | I use Eyebeam for testing... other... stuff |
| 20:57.29 | file[laptop] | not with chan_sip |
| 20:57.39 | file[laptop] | so, yeah, have fun |
| 20:58.00 | ManxPower | enemy^x, none of the 278 messages in the mailing list archive with "eyebeam" in them were helpfull? |
| 20:58.02 | enemy^x | ManxPower: Well, what client do you recommend then? |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#asterisk russell- (n=morale@S01060011d8d50c43.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 20:58.36 | ManxPower | enemy^x, none. videophones are for gay martians or people in marketing. |
| 20:59.11 | MRH2 | oi and us pretty people too |
| 21:00.13 | enemy^x | ManxPower: does all the sip soft clients include videophones? |
| 21:00.38 | ManxPower | enemy^x, Hmm? Very few softphones have video |
| 21:00.51 | Ariel_ | enemy^x, yes xten has xlite on there site. |
| 21:01.01 | X-Rob | someone mentioned that grandstream are bringing out a videophone |
| 21:01.05 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, how are you today. Seen the news about the storm. argh |
| 21:01.09 | ManxPower | Ariel_, Um, eyeBeam is from X-Lite |
| 21:01.19 | ManxPower | Ariel_, Yup. Glad I'm not near the coast anymore |
| 21:01.25 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, yes but they still have there non eyebeam |
| 21:01.55 | ManxPower | Of course i'm leaving for covington tomorrow and will be in Gulfport on wed |
| 21:03.30 | enemy^x | ManxPower: I don't understand why you are so into videophones. Im trying several sip soft phones, eyebeam is one of them, and eyebeam has a presence touch which has absolutely nothing to do with video? |
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| 21:05.02 | ManxPower | enemy^x, you have not read the mailign list archive, have you? |
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| 21:05.16 | SarahEmm | note to self: your DSL runs on the same line as your POTS service. if you mess with it, you lose your internet ;) |
| 21:05.41 | mmmToop_ | chaps...any idea why voicemail prompts are not playing when 'u' option is inserted? |
| 21:06.10 | enemy^x | manxpower: that`s the second or third time you ask me. What do you think? |
| 21:06.13 | ManxPower | mmmToop_, There was a bug that pooh found that caused some prompts to not play. |
| 21:06.28 | mmmToop_ | aahh... |
| 21:06.38 | ManxPower | enemy^x, I think you have not, but it is your best source of information on this. |
| 21:06.45 | mmmToop_ | goog old pooh ; ) |
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| 21:15.11 | paryl | i've got a problem... i have 4 incoming lines and i can't figure out (based on all of the examples i've read) how to group them (on a TDM400P) so that they are used for outgoing calls and if the first is busy the next is used |
| 21:17.31 | enemy^x | PRI: received SETUP message for call that is not a new call, wicked!!! |
| 21:17.32 | enemy^x | heh |
| 21:19.00 | ender | paryl: when defining them in zapte.conf, have 'group=1' before the lines. |
| 21:19.00 | ender | paryl: then reference it in extensions.conf as Zap/g1 |
| 21:19.06 | X-Rob | then when you dial, dial (Zap/g1/whatever) |
| 21:19.13 | X-Rob | yeah. |
| 21:21.31 | mmmToop_ | also if u want the tdm400p to not send calls to unavailable channels |
| 21:21.40 | SarahEmm | anyone here use voctel? |
| 21:21.52 | mmmToop_ | then u have to alter chan_zap.c |
| 21:22.09 | paryl | i don't understand |
| 21:22.15 | mmmToop_ | switch #define ZAP_CHECK_HOOKSTATE on |
| 21:22.21 | paryl | it's default for it to send to unavailbale channels? |
| 21:22.39 | mmmToop_ | ...umm so if you have a open port on the card |
| 21:22.49 | mmmToop_ | or if a line is down |
| 21:23.02 | paryl | ah |
| 21:23.14 | mmmToop_ | suppose u could just not group it... |
| 21:23.28 | mmmToop_ | but works well for me on one box |
| 21:23.53 | paryl | hmm... chan_zap.c isn't in the source code i have |
| 21:23.58 | paryl | (from the cvs) |
| 21:24.14 | mmmToop_ | it is under the channels directory... |
| 21:24.34 | mmmToop_ | ...I am not using cvs head...so maybe it has changed. |
| 21:25.13 | paryl | i don't have a channels directory wierd |
| 21:26.49 | paryl | it's really odd |
| 21:27.22 | paryl | also, any calls i make outgoing across the zap channels have horrible static |
| 21:27.31 | paryl | volume goes in and out |
| 21:27.40 | paryl | and clicks constantly |
| 21:27.42 | mmmToop_ | ...wierd...try reboot |
| 21:27.52 | mmmToop_ | it happen to me the other day as well |
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| 21:28.14 | paryl | i've rebooted a few times so far |
| 21:28.14 | mmmToop_ | but was not just a little hiss it was SERIOUS hiss.. |
| 21:28.19 | mmmToop_ | mmmm... |
| 21:28.20 | rayvd | Hisserific. |
| 21:28.25 | mmmToop_ | ; ) |
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| 21:33.44 | paryl | this thing's driving me nuts :) |
| 21:34.04 | paryl | the other thing i'm running into is... |
| 21:34.07 | paryl | Oct 17 16:33:00 NOTICE[5144]: chan_zap.c:5405 ss_thread: Got event 18 (Event 18)... |
| 21:34.07 | paryl | Oct 17 16:33:02 ERROR[5144]: callerid.c:260 callerid_feed: fsk_serie made mylen < 0 (-9) |
| 21:34.07 | paryl | Oct 17 16:33:02 WARNING[5144]: chan_zap.c:5434 ss_thread: CallerID feed failed: Success |
| 21:34.07 | paryl | Oct 17 16:33:02 WARNING[5144]: chan_zap.c:5476 ss_thread: CallerID returned with error on channel 'Zap/2-1' |
| 21:34.37 | mmmToop_ | not to worry... I am also pulling my hair out trying to get simpe voicmail working!! aarrr |
| 21:34.47 | SarahEmm | what's the issue with voicemail? |
| 21:35.05 | mmmToop_ | it is not playing any messages/ prompts |
| 21:35.22 | mmmToop_ | not sure what I have missed... |
| 21:35.27 | SarahEmm | err.. didn't someone here just say that was a known issue or something? |
| 21:35.37 | mmmToop_ | I have setup voicemail.conf...sound files are there....etc. |
| 21:35.52 | mmmToop_ | um...I am on a stable version...dont think that is it |
| 21:36.07 | SarahEmm | ahh. |
| 21:36.17 | SarahEmm | pastebin your voicemail.conf and extensions.conf? |
| 21:36.17 | mmmToop_ | any thoughts? |
| 21:36.31 | mmmToop_ | sure...will do now |
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| 21:37.52 | SkramX | Hello all |
| 21:37.58 | ManxPower | paryl, assuming you are in the USA or Canada, the problem might be too low/too high of volume. Use rxgain / txgain to adjust. |
| 21:38.24 | ManxPower | mmmToop_, try "make sounds" in the asterisk source |
| 21:39.08 | mmmToop_ | cool will do that now...but they look like they are in the right places...but lets try ; ) |
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| 21:39.54 | rayvd | helps if you stand on your head while you install the sounds too |
| 21:40.09 | mmmToop_ | will def. try that one! ; ) |
| 21:40.32 | mmmToop_ | maybe my hair will grow back then that I have pulled out ; ) |
| 21:41.01 | ManxPower | mmmToop_, watch the console, you should see an error regarding the missing sound file |
| 21:41.14 | rayvd | from past experience, no it won't unfortunately :) |
| 21:41.18 | mmmToop_ | na...no message like that! |
| 21:41.23 | mmmToop_ | aarrr... |
| 21:41.30 | mmmToop_ | tried make...didnt work |
| 21:41.44 | SarahEmm | mmmtoop: do 'set verbose 99' and try again |
| 21:41.47 | SarahEmm | see if you get anything useful |
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| 21:41.51 | ManxPower | and set debug 3 |
| 21:41.56 | mmmToop_ | ok.. |
| 21:43.36 | mmmToop_ | nothing...CLI says > Executing VoiceMail(bla bla ..) ...no errors |
| 21:44.32 | SarahEmm | first off, does audio work for other things? |
| 21:45.01 | mmmToop_ | sure.. |
| 21:45.13 | SarahEmm | okay.. |
| 21:45.18 | SarahEmm | did you pastebin your config files? |
| 21:45.18 | mmmToop_ | http://pastebin.com/396863 |
| 21:45.24 | mmmToop_ | ; ) |
| 21:45.39 | SarahEmm | heh |
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| 21:48.05 | BladeRunner05 | Hi all |
| 21:48.15 | SarahEmm | hihi |
| 21:48.23 | mmmToop_ | hi...great movie! ; ) |
| 21:49.37 | BladeRunner05 | IronHelix: r u in the channel ? |
| 21:50.11 | CrazyYoss | Is anyone in here have any recommendations for ecommerce/credit card processing services? |
| 21:50.40 | Nugget | I've set up osCommerce for a few companies. It's not half bad. |
| 21:51.01 | CrazyYoss | sorry * Does anyone in here have any recommendations for ecommerce/credit card processing services? |
| 21:51.24 | Nugget | lots of modules and it's extensible, but it's php/mysql so the code is about as messy as you'd fear. |
| 21:51.26 | CrazyYoss | Nugget: thanks I will check them out |
| 21:51.48 | CrazyYoss | Nugget: :-( |
| 21:52.56 | mmmToop_ | just found what my v m prob was!!! yipeee |
| 21:53.15 | mmmToop_ | mailbox was same number as SIP ID |
| 21:53.24 | mmmToop_ | now it works...anyway... |
| 21:53.40 | SarahEmm | heh |
| 21:53.41 | SarahEmm | cool |
| 21:53.59 | mmmToop_ | thanks 4 your help though guys! ; ) |
| 21:57.20 | ender | mmmToop_: how is that a problem? My SIP ID and mailbox is the same number... |
| 21:57.51 | mmmToop_ | well...now it works?? ...wierd |
| 21:58.36 | mmmToop_ | anyway I am just happy it is working now! ; ) ...what version are u running? |
| 21:59.23 | ender | mmmToop_: 1.2beta |
| 22:00.07 | mmmToop_ | I am on stable...so maybe something has changed? |
| 22:00.41 | SarahEmm | uhh |
| 22:00.43 | mmmToop_ | do u have 1.2beta in a production environment? ...never quite had the guts to do that |
| 22:00.52 | SarahEmm | since when do you have to have the exact same version of HEAD to connect to a peer on IAX2? |
| 22:01.05 | ender | mmmToop_: I had the same config under stable. |
| 22:01.23 | ender | mmmToop_: sip ID was the extension number. voicemail.conf had same number for the mailbox. |
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| 22:01.42 | mmmToop_ | ah...think it maybe something else now... |
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| 22:02.02 | syle | does it make sense to call hangup in the h extension? |
| 22:02.02 | ender | wait, you have 'ext' and 'voicemailext' ? |
| 22:02.13 | ender | mmmToop_: maybe you weren't using the same context? |
| 22:02.18 | mmmToop_ | I had a global in the voicmail cmd |
| 22:02.22 | mmmToop_ | think that was it |
| 22:02.27 | ender | oh |
| 22:02.28 | mmmToop_ | put digits in it now & it works. |
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| 22:06.46 | Kyreeth | (This is zaptel from CVS-HEAD..) |
| 22:06.54 | X-Rob | you're installing the wrong zaptel kernel module |
| 22:06.59 | X-Rob | really. that's the problem. |
| 22:07.02 | X-Rob | cd /lib/modules |
| 22:07.05 | X-Rob | du -a | grep zaptal |
| 22:07.07 | X-Rob | zaptel |
| 22:07.10 | X-Rob | remove them all |
| 22:07.32 | SarahEmm | Kyreeth: nifty talkingway :o) seems mud/mush/muckish |
| 22:09.40 | SarahEmm | :) |
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| 22:11.37 | rayvd | Rabbits. |
| 22:12.00 | SarahEmm | <-- kitrich, not rabbit :) |
| 22:12.10 | denon | oh man, not the kitrich stuff again |
| 22:12.26 | SarahEmm | mrrow? |
| 22:12.34 | denon | mm? |
| 22:12.58 | denon | Ostten? |
| 22:13.08 | SarahEmm | hehe |
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| 22:17.51 | SarahEmm | hmm, how do i get a Zap interface to only answer after x rings? |
| 22:18.08 | mmmToop | wait cmd |
| 22:18.10 | Qwell | SarahEmm: wait first? |
| 22:18.21 | SarahEmm | but then it'll still answer |
| 22:18.22 | ender | SarahEmm: Ring() followed by Wait |
| 22:18.29 | ender | SarahEmm: than Answer() |
| 22:18.40 | SarahEmm | err.. but then it'll still answer |
| 22:18.50 | SarahEmm | i want * to answer after 5 rings if it's still ringing... |
| 22:18.55 | SarahEmm | (if it's possible :) ) |
| 22:18.58 | ender | Ringing that is. |
| 22:19.00 | ender | SarahEmm: sure. |
| 22:19.05 | Qwell | if it stops ringing, it'll be hungup |
| 22:19.09 | Qwell | won't it? |
| 22:19.17 | ender | exten => xxxx,1,Ringing() |
| 22:19.17 | SarahEmm | err, no |
| 22:19.24 | SarahEmm | the line has * and a POTS device on it right now |
| 22:19.29 | ender | exten => xxxx,2,Wait(7) |
| 22:19.31 | Qwell | I see |
| 22:19.32 | SarahEmm | so i only want * acting as an 'answering machine' on it basically |
| 22:19.40 | Qwell | SarahEmm: get an fxs ;] |
| 22:19.48 | SarahEmm | heh |
| 22:19.59 | SarahEmm | well once my TDD code in * is done i won't need this setup |
| 22:20.03 | mmmToop | or hire a secratary ; ) |
| 22:20.05 | SarahEmm | but rightnow the line has a TTY on it as well as * |
| 22:20.22 | SarahEmm | so i want * to act as my answering machine if possible because it's a nicer interface than the TTY's :) |
| 22:20.29 | SarahEmm | might be unpossible tho |
| 22:21.29 | Igbothom_III | unpossible? |
| 22:21.54 | SarahEmm | unpossible :) |
| 22:22.03 | wunderkin | nonpossible heh |
| 22:22.19 | Igbothom_III | dispossible |
| 22:22.37 | SarahEmm | ok, i'll work around this i guess |
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| 22:22.45 | SarahEmm | hopefully have the TTY code workable in a week anyway |
| 22:23.05 | SarahEmm | signalling is hard tho :/ FXO interfaces don't reliably detect busy, answer, etc |
| 22:23.36 | SarahEmm | \ |
| 22:23.45 | wunderkin | nothing is nonpossible :P |
| 22:23.54 | SarahEmm | heh |
| 22:23.54 | mmmToop | agreed....a big pain |
| 22:23.56 | SarahEmm | well i'd have to edit the code |
| 22:24.01 | SarahEmm | it's easier to just finish my app |
| 22:24.02 | mmmToop | better to go BRI |
| 22:24.10 | SarahEmm | then everything in theory will run through * |
| 22:24.18 | SarahEmm | mmmToop: way too expensive for home use |
| 22:24.32 | SarahEmm | mmmToop: and eventually i want it all going out over VoIP but that's even more code to write to make IAX2 support it |
| 22:24.54 | mmmToop | about the same price here in SA... analogue & BRI |
| 22:24.59 | SarahEmm | ahh |
| 22:25.03 | SarahEmm | here BRI costs a lot more |
| 22:25.10 | h3x | tdd code? i thought that had been around for ages |
| 22:25.24 | SarahEmm | h3x: the code in * itself has been |
| 22:25.28 | SarahEmm | and now it works well |
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| 22:25.32 | h3x | yeah |
| 22:25.32 | SarahEmm | but there's no apps that use it that i could find |
| 22:25.36 | mmmToop | SarahEmm: where are u? |
| 22:25.38 | SarahEmm | so it's not so useful on its own :) |
| 22:25.40 | SarahEmm | mmmToop: canada |
| 22:25.40 | h3x | i see |
| 22:25.45 | SarahEmm | h3x: so i need to write some apps for it |
| 22:25.55 | mmmToop | ahhh country of the VoIP ; ) |
| 22:26.07 | mmmToop | no need for analogue lines there |
| 22:26.14 | SarahEmm | heh |
| 22:26.25 | SarahEmm | well there is right now until i get time to code more to make IAX2 support TDD MODE somehow |
| 22:26.38 | h3x | oh is it zap only? |
| 22:27.17 | h3x | bri is cheaper than pots here |
| 22:27.21 | h3x | i realize the hardware is kind of $ |
| 22:27.33 | h3x | id rather use a fractional t1 |
| 22:27.37 | SarahEmm | h3x: yeah it's zap only |
| 22:27.41 | SarahEmm | h3x: so i have an x100p now |
| 22:27.43 | h3x | where are you located |
| 22:27.53 | SarahEmm | once i get apps written to support tdd mode, i'll work on getting IAX to suppor tit |
| 22:27.56 | SarahEmm | h3x: toronto Canada |
| 22:28.29 | h3x | id sooner try to make it work with sip |
| 22:28.35 | h3x | since thats what most of your underlying carriers would use? |
| 22:28.48 | SarahEmm | h3x: my carrier uses iax :) |
| 22:28.51 | SarahEmm | so iax first |
| 22:29.23 | Igbothom_III | hhmmm, where to find * for SME Server... |
| 22:29.24 | h3x | g.711 ? |
| 22:30.08 | SarahEmm | h3x: talking to me? |
| 22:30.11 | h3x | yeah |
| 22:30.16 | SarahEmm | i'm using gsm right now |
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| 22:30.26 | h3x | i guess tty is slow enough that gsm might work |
| 22:30.40 | h3x | but id be doing g.726 or g.711 |
| 22:30.43 | SarahEmm | err |
| 22:30.47 | Igbothom_III | actually, what's currently the most feature-STABLE version of *? Is it still 1.0.9 or is the cvs build much better? |
| 22:30.49 | SarahEmm | no... |
| 22:30.51 | SarahEmm | it's transmitted as text |
| 22:30.54 | SarahEmm | iax and sip channels support text |
| 22:30.59 | SarahEmm | it'll only be converted to tones at the remote end |
| 22:31.03 | SarahEmm | so it never has to travel over a codec |
| 22:31.12 | h3x | you are going to get your remote provider to install your iax channel ? |
| 22:31.14 | SarahEmm | and i'd imagine it would work over GSM. it works over cell phones. |
| 22:31.20 | SarahEmm | h3x: err, it'll be in * eventually |
| 22:31.23 | SarahEmm | my provider runs * |
| 22:31.33 | h3x | providers dont upgrade very often :) |
| 22:31.38 | SarahEmm | they're on HEAD... |
| 22:31.42 | SarahEmm | they're up to date. |
| 22:31.42 | h3x | jesus |
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| 22:31.58 | h3x | if i did that people would bitch about shit going up and down |
| 22:31.58 | h3x | heh |
| 22:32.02 | SarahEmm | h3x: heh |
| 22:32.02 | h3x | i learned my lesson a couple times |
| 22:32.05 | h3x | nasty bugs |
| 22:32.13 | SarahEmm | h3x: gsm should be fine anyway. it's only 45baud :P |
| 22:32.15 | AgiNamu | anyone have recommendation for a phone to use in a call center? |
| 22:32.21 | h3x | upgrade to fix one persons problem and it breaks 3 other's |
| 22:32.36 | h3x | AgiNamu: diax phone |
| 22:32.37 | h3x | haha |
| 22:32.46 | AgiNamu | heheh..... hardphones :) |
| 22:32.59 | h3x | do you need to do screen pops |
| 22:33.01 | AgiNamu | something with solid quality |
| 22:33.04 | mmmToop | man that diax phone is ugly...but it works |
| 22:33.10 | AgiNamu | but no fancy features |
| 22:33.19 | h3x | yes and its the only one that does SendURL worth a shit |
| 22:33.28 | AgiNamu | just need it to be able to pickup, use a headset, and hangup. |
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| 22:33.43 | h3x | AgiNamu: I'm telling you dude, spend the $ on good quality headsets and use diax phone or something |
| 22:34.07 | mmmToop | with call center agents u need a library that dials so they cant do anything! ..even diax is to much ; ) |
| 22:34.24 | AgiNamu | we have the whole software working just fine |
| 22:34.31 | h3x | aheeva made a dummy soft phone but i think they only sell it with their dialer products |
| 22:34.32 | AgiNamu | we dont want to run a softphone or any other software on this system |
| 22:34.51 | h3x | snom makes the best voip phones but they are $200+ a piece |
| 22:35.06 | h3x | sipura's spa-841 is nice, has a headset jack, but it dosent have ethernet pass through |
| 22:36.06 | h3x | being able to use SendURL is better than hacking together shit to do screen pops with asterisk manager |
| 22:36.20 | h3x | and then you have to match up voice and terminal |
| 22:36.21 | AgiNamu | does diax have some kind of API |
| 22:36.27 | h3x | to do what |
| 22:36.33 | stevek | AgiNamu: Diax uses iaxclient.. |
| 22:36.38 | AgiNamu | oh |
| 22:36.57 | h3x | AgiNamu: IAX2 protocol has a feature to send URL, text messages, and pictures through it |
| 22:37.10 | h3x | diaxphone sends URLs to internet explorer |
| 22:37.12 | galel | how can i check if my cdr is working right? |
| 22:37.28 | mmmToop | call ; ) |
| 22:37.31 | galel | what is the cli command |
| 22:37.34 | h3x | its super easy to get it working |
| 22:37.34 | AgiNamu | h3x, yea, but i dont need that. i just need a way of telling the softphone to answer and hangup. |
| 22:37.40 | h3x | well to do that |
| 22:37.43 | h3x | you use iax://blah |
| 22:38.03 | h3x | but you really shouldnt evne have to do that |
| 22:38.07 | h3x | have the agent login to a call queue |
| 22:38.15 | stevek | AgiNamu: there's this little program that comes with iaxclient called "iaxcli", which you can talk to on stdin/stdout, and control from your app like that. |
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| 22:38.23 | AgiNamu | hmm |
| 22:38.23 | AgiNamu | yea |
| 22:38.27 | h3x | thats true |
| 22:38.30 | AgiNamu | and I think I remember seeing a C# DLL for IAX |
| 22:38.39 | h3x | yeah |
| 22:38.42 | h3x | .NET |
| 22:38.42 | h3x | heh |
| 22:38.45 | AgiNamu | but i cant find it now |
| 22:38.49 | AgiNamu | our call center is all .NET |
| 22:38.51 | h3x | its on voip-info.org |
| 22:38.55 | AgiNamu | we extened MONO-TONE to do FastAGI |
| 22:39.01 | AgiNamu | so we fastagi to windows, run things there |
| 22:39.13 | h3x | oh god |
| 22:39.17 | h3x | you so didnt need to do that |
| 22:39.17 | h3x | heh |
| 22:39.24 | AgiNamu | well we could run mono |
| 22:39.33 | AgiNamu | but the rest of all our systems run windows so |
| 22:39.34 | AgiNamu | its easier |
| 22:39.47 | h3x | it dosent matter |
| 22:39.50 | h3x | you probably didnt evne need agi's |
| 22:40.21 | AgiNamu | the AGIs go into our call center server app... the only other way would be for us to write a C app for Asterisk |
| 22:40.33 | AgiNamu | or perhaps we coudl do something with manager API |
| 22:40.41 | h3x | well this is what we did |
| 22:40.44 | h3x | when you get a call |
| 22:41.15 | h3x | it does something like Dial(agentqueue,blah,http://somelocalserver/foo.cgi?number=4085551212) sort of thing |
| 22:41.30 | h3x | that makes diax hit the web server and look up that record |
| 22:41.48 | h3x | we did have to use some manager queries to figure out channel associations but that was special for our application |
| 22:42.01 | h3x | and now im writing a web server module to talk to asterisk manager so you can put in html tags to do that stuff easily |
| 22:42.10 | AgiNamu | yea theres a few ways i guess |
| 22:42.19 | AgiNamu | AGI just seemed much easier, cause im not familiar with queues in Asterisk |
| 22:42.23 | AgiNamu | and not sure if they'd meet our needs |
| 22:42.25 | h3x | you took the 10,000 line of code route to fix a 3 lines of code problem |
| 22:42.36 | AgiNamu | we want to playback TTS prompts, etc. in the queue, depending on the customer |
| 22:42.46 | h3x | there is a good free 3rd party queue replacement |
| 22:43.00 | h3x | that will do about anything you want |
| 22:43.40 | AgiNamu | yea, well, considering we have to do all this other work ourselves |
| 22:43.43 | h3x | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-ICD |
| 22:43.45 | AgiNamu | and we arent using a webserver or anything |
| 22:43.57 | AgiNamu | the AGI part of our app is probably less than 2% |
| 22:44.06 | h3x | then what do you need computers then at the agent stations |
| 22:44.13 | h3x | s/what/why/ |
| 22:44.23 | AgiNamu | the agent stations run our program |
| 22:44.39 | h3x | oh i see |
| 22:44.46 | AgiNamu | that connects to our server. when an call comes in, it AGIs into the server and goes in our own queue. on another thread, we download related info for that client |
| 22:44.47 | h3x | inbound, outbound, ? |
| 22:44.50 | AgiNamu | all inbound |
| 22:44.57 | AgiNamu | well, no, we'll have outbound eventually too |
| 22:45.23 | mmmToop | bye all... |
| 22:46.24 | AgiNamu | cya |
| 22:46.34 | AgiNamu | hmm, Sokol used to have a C# IAX DLL |
| 22:48.54 | r0d3nt | how do i put a T1/PRI card into loopback |
| 22:48.55 | r0d3nt | ?? |
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| 22:50.54 | paryl | so i changed tthe rxgain/txgain on my tdm400p, and it made the call clarity go way up. but i still have static... it's like any voice traffic either way has a small amount of static combined with the audio |
| 22:50.58 | Damin_PDA | ..... |
| 22:51.14 | Damin_PDA | wow....... |
| 22:51.38 | Damin_PDA | i am so tired right now |
| 22:51.46 | r0d3nt | There is a utility for putting T1/E1/PRI cards into loopback from the console.. Do you know the name ??? |
| 22:51.54 | SarahEmm | zttool will do it |
| 22:52.03 | r0d3nt | TY |
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| 22:53.18 | Ariel_ | hello folks |
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| 22:55.10 | Damin_PDA | dude... |
| 22:55.37 | nobell | Damin - did you make it to Vegas? |
| 22:56.26 | Damin_PDA | yep |
| 22:56.59 | Damin_PDA | just leaaving for san jose now |
| 22:57.04 | nobell | right on. |
| 22:57.22 | nobell | make any spending money. |
| 22:57.25 | nobell | ? |
| 22:57.33 | Damin_PDA | vegas was totally out of control |
| 22:57.56 | Damin_PDA | iam leaving 53 |
| 22:58.03 | Damin_PDA | =ahh |
| 22:58.35 | nobell | how many of you went? |
| 22:58.49 | Damin_PDA | i am leaving 500 bucks richer |
| 22:59.15 | Damin_PDA | four left anaheim |
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| 22:59.36 | kippi | hey |
| 23:00.03 | Damin_PDA | three are leaving las vegas |
| 23:00.21 | kippi | i am still have problems with my Grandstream phones, has anyone got any ideas why i will be getting this error? Access Denied Content-Type: text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 Server: Grandstream/1.10 |
| 23:00.24 | nobell | how did the other guys do? |
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| 23:01.07 | nobell | I'm the one who is creating the Asteriskoids game - almost ready to launch it. |
| 23:01.14 | Damin_PDA | every one else is poor.. |
| 23:01.27 | nwhit | i recently upgraded to cvs head and I am getting a strange message: cdr_addon_mysql.c:166 mysql_log: cdr_mysql: Retried to connect fives times, giving up. |
| 23:01.28 | nwhit | But it is still posting cdr to the database |
| 23:01.30 | nwhit | any ideas? |
| 23:02.44 | r0d3nt | SarahEmm, does it need to keep or establish a loop to stay in that state ?? |
| 23:03.09 | SarahEmm | err, what? |
| 23:03.36 | r0d3nt | i tell it to loop, but it never says that it is looped... |
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| 23:03.56 | JohnnyC | hello |
| 23:04.04 | JohnnyC | any working with mISDN ? |
| 23:04.20 | r0d3nt | SarahEmm, thanks for your help. Looks like the loop is failing and it never gets into that mode... |
| 23:04.29 | JohnnyC | Im getting "Open of mISDN Failed : No such file or directory " |
| 23:04.32 | r0d3nt | i'll be back in a couple hours. |
| 23:07.44 | SarahEmm | ahh okay |
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| 23:08.24 | docelm0 | sup sup |
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| 23:09.22 | SarahEmm | this seems so simple, but... anyone know if there's a Redial feature somehow on the Polycoms? |
| 23:09.29 | SarahEmm | other than Calls List -> Placed Calls -> Dial |
| 23:09.38 | SarahEmm | .. |
| 23:09.39 | SarahEmm | nevermind. |
| 23:09.41 | SarahEmm | i feel stupid. |
| 23:09.46 | SarahEmm | there's a button that says Redial on it. |
| 23:09.46 | SarahEmm | :P |
| 23:09.52 | docelm0 | haha |
| 23:09.56 | wunderkin | <blonde moment> |
| 23:10.49 | SarahEmm | strangely enough, pushing it redials ;) |
| 23:11.13 | drumkilla | NO WAY |
| 23:11.21 | drumkilla | you could hack up a redial using AstDB |
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| 23:11.26 | drumkilla | :-p |
| 23:11.50 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 23:11.51 | SarahEmm | :P |
| 23:11.54 | SarahEmm | *feels stupid* |
| 23:12.15 | JohnnyC | Anyone can help me ? Open of mISDN Failed |
| 23:12.20 | JohnnyC | with mISDN ? |
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| 23:12.51 | generalhan | anyone in here using the asternic FOP ? i have a quick question ! |
| 23:13.20 | wunderkin | drumkilla: no no no use realtime :) |
| 23:13.55 | SkramX | generalhan: what? |
| 23:14.00 | generalhan | i know that in op_style.cfg you can make more than one context, but can you call on those different context within one displayed FOP? like if i wanted to change the button color and have some of them follow one context and some to follow another. |
| 23:14.11 | generalhan | can i make that happen ? |
| 23:17.12 | generalhan | SkramX: any ideas ? |
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| 23:32.21 | Talnakh | Hi Everyone. i have a quick question. Can i use a couple of zaptel cards on one asterisk? |
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| 23:32.31 | Talnakh | server |
| 23:32.42 | Igbothom_III | which cards? |
| 23:32.52 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Talnakh, yes |
| 23:33.00 | Nugget | Yes, but be careful with shared IRQs. |
| 23:33.03 | Talnakh | Ambient 3200, intel compliant |
| 23:33.40 | JohnnyC | Anyone with mISDN ? |
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| 23:34.23 | asterisk99 | anyone know why I would have to rerun ztcgf and manually start Asterisk after a reboot? I used to have Asterisk working like a charm --- then today, it suddenly stopped |
| 23:34.47 | Talnakh | Nugget, i ve setup setup the bios so it should give freedom to Linux to allocate IRQs. maybe you could recommend something to avoid IRQ conflict? |
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| 23:35.43 | Nugget | that sort of thing is invariably hardware dependent. Judging from the history of channel chatter on the subject, just be prepared for a multi-card box to be "fiddly" and possibly require switching around slots and noodling with the bios pci settings before things are settled |
| 23:36.08 | Nugget | it helps to disable all the crap on the motherboard you aren't using (like the parallel port and stuff) |
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| 23:36.27 | Talnakh | Nugget, thanks a lot. |
| 23:36.33 | Nugget | you bet |
| 23:37.10 | Igbothom_III | multiple POTS cards, sure, multiple ISDN cards, well... |
| 23:37.20 | Talnakh | Nugget, do u think that one motherboard will be able to support 4 Zaptel cards? |
| 23:37.26 | Nugget | I don't know, sorry. |
| 23:37.53 | Talnakh | ok, i ll check it soon and will tell you. ;-) |
| 23:38.15 | Talnakh | soon, meaning tomorrow or after tomorrow :-) |
| 23:38.16 | generalhan | In regards to the Asternic FOP: i know that in op_style.cfg you can make more than one context, but can you call on those different context within one displayed FOP? like if i wanted to change the button color and have some of them follow one context and some to follow another. |
| 23:39.20 | Nugget | heh |
| 23:44.13 | generalhan | no one knows huh ? |
| 23:44.58 | Talnakh | I don't know for sure. maybe there is a channel of FOP? |
| 23:45.01 | enemy^x | while trying out the last cvs, I get config_old.c:28 ast_load: ast_load is depricated, use ast_config_load instead! ... something fishy with the lastest cvs? |
| 23:45.36 | Talnakh | did u try to compile? |
| 23:46.24 | enemy^x | yep |
| 23:46.41 | Talnakh | does it work? |
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