irclog2html for #asterisk on 20051027

`00:00.04`	`swm_`	`Asterlink can have 500 Calls at once thru thier service they have a DS3`
`00:00.19`	`davidded`	`hmm. these polycom phones are nice indeed. do you know if they are available on the german market?`
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`00:03.05`	`davidded`	`hmm. i just found some polycom product quotes. the prices make my ISDN efforts worth i'm afraid.`
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`00:03.23`	`FuriousGeorge`	`hey all`
`00:03.28`	`davidded`	`hi`
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`00:11.03`	`JunK-Y`	`davidded: the * revolution has started, trash ur old stuff. :)`
`00:12.08`	`davidded`	`so what does such a polycom phone cost?`
`00:12.57`	`JunK-Y`	`[175,250]`
`00:14.15`	`davidded`	`hmm. that's way above the 50 EUR for a good working, used ISDN phone.`
`00:17.33`	`davidded`	`Apart from all considerations which technology to use, I'm looking for someone who has some expertise with ISDN phones. Where would I find someone like that?`
`00:26.30`	`JunK-Y`	`to get it work with asterisk?`
`00:27.05`	`glm2k`	`davidded: have you asked on the asterisk-biz list? or on voip-info.org?`
`00:32.54`	`davidded`	`Junk-Y, glm2k: I've searched many mailing lists, including voip-info.org. I have not asked yet, as my problem is very subtle and difficult to explain non-interactively. However, concerning ISDN phones in general, much is working very fine with them -- and I'd like to go on using them as many people here still feel uncomfortable with VoIP phones.`
`00:33.33`	`JunK-Y`	`which isdn phones? which mark? which model?`
`00:34.04`	`JunK-Y`	`outch!`
`00:34.45`	`davidded`	`I'm happy to tell you: elmeg CS100 vs. C300`
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`00:35.16`	`davidded`	`These are actually ISDN phones which can hold 4 calls. This is quite uncommon for such phones.`
`00:35.18`	`swm_`	`If ya dont know what a nutria is your ... stupid.`
`00:35.33`	`JunK-Y`	`ive no fucking idea whats a nutria.`
`00:35.36`	`JunK-Y`	`:P`
`00:35.45`	`aatcman`	`me neaither`
`00:35.51`	`aatcman`	`:o)`
`00:36.07`	`swm_`	`Thier like a beaver ...`
`00:36.21`	`swm_`	`But have the teeth of a possum`
`00:36.32`	`aatcman`	`phones eat trees?`
`00:36.34`	`aatcman`	`lol`
`00:37.20`	`aatcman`	`anyone use callcentric?`
`00:37.31`	`aatcman`	`for a SIP trunk?`
`00:39.14`	`aatcman`	`?`
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`00:45.25`	`aatcman`	`hello?`
`00:46.18`	`aatcman`	`is anybody able to help me with a DID routing problem?`
`00:46.39`	`aatcman`	`I am using callcentric for my SIP trunk if that helps`
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`00:49.03`	`aatcman`	`:o)`
`00:49.27`	`aatcman`	`?`
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`00:50.17`	`aatcman`	`Hi IOscaner`
`00:51.02`	`IOscanner`	`howdy`
`00:51.20`	`aatcman`	`can you help me with a DID routing problem/`
`00:51.23`	`aatcman`	`?`
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`00:51.39`	`aatcman`	`Hi colinm`
`00:51.46`	`IOscanner`	`what is wrong?`
`00:52.21`	`aatcman`	`well, I have a ZAp trunk and a SIP trunk and i am trying to make them ring to different extensions`
`00:52.25`	`colinm_`	`howdy aatcman`
`00:52.32`	`aatcman`	`but nothing seems to work`
`00:53.17`	`aatcman`	`I spent some time on the asterisk channel on undernet and they suggested to talk to you guys`
`00:53.25`	`IOscanner`	`did you define an extention for your zap line and sip line`
`00:53.58`	`aatcman`	`you mean did I make an extension whos number matches the DID #s?`
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`00:54.04`	`aatcman`	`no, I did not`
`00:54.08`	`aatcman`	`do I need to?`
`00:54.16`	`aatcman`	`Hi littleball`
`00:54.35`	`littleball`	`y`
`00:54.44`	`littleball`	`what?`
`00:54.54`	`aatcman`	`just said hi`
`00:54.55`	`IOscanner`	`yes, then put a goto command to dial the extention you want`
`00:54.58`	`aatcman`	`to littleball`
`00:55.12`	`aatcman`	`a goto command?`
`00:55.29`	`aatcman`	`please explain -- I'm using A@H with amp`
`00:55.43`	`aatcman`	`would this be found in the extensions.conf?`
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`00:56.07`	`IOscanner`	`yes, you can write a macro to handle the calling it is easier and cleaner`
`00:56.36`	`littleball`	`aatcman, example:`
`00:56.37`	`littleball`	`exten=>_X.,4,GotoIf($["${room}" != ""]?5:9)`
`00:56.38`	`littleball`	`exten=>_X.,5,Wait(2)`
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`00:57.37`	`IOscanner`	`Is you are using amp, just do a goto(ext-did,1234567891,1)`
`00:58.04`	`aatcman`	`?`
`00:58.32`	`IOscanner`	`sorry I am on my phone`
`00:59.14`	`IOscanner`	`hard to type from blackberry`
`00:59.34`	`aatcman`	`o didn't know you could do this from a black berry`
`00:59.37`	`aatcman`	`thats cool`
`01:00.00`	`IOscanner`	`yep and ssh and more`
`01:00.02`	`glm2k`	`they have teenie weenie keyboards`
`01:00.17`	`glm2k`	`cool little buggers though`
`01:00.30`	`aatcman`	`I know, ive seen them. I cant type on a regular keyboard`
`01:00.37`	`aatcman`	`my fingers are too bug`
`01:00.39`	`aatcman`	`BIG!!!`
`01:00.44`	`aatcman`	`not bug`
`01:00.48`	`aatcman`	`see what I mean?`
`01:01.05`	`glm2k`	`hehe`
`01:01.09`	`IOscanner`	`I like the keyboard better then the treo`
`01:01.21`	`IOscanner`	`the treo is very small`
`01:01.25`	`glm2k`	`i wonder why the fitaly keyboard didn't catch on`
`01:01.37`	`glm2k`	`it's pretty good for small form factor units`
`01:01.46`	`glm2k`	`pda's and the like`
`01:01.53`	`harryvv`	`anyone ever work with the gumstix?`
`01:02.07`	`harryvv`	`a linux pc the shape of a stick of gum?`
`01:02.09`	`glm2k`	`nup. not me`
`01:02.13`	`IOscanner`	`I don't know if I have see that keyboard`
`01:02.28`	`glm2k`	`IOscanner: it's software`
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`01:02.37`	`aatcman`	`ouch`
`01:02.45`	`IOscanner`	`nope sound cool where can I find it`
`01:03.10`	`aatcman`	`anyway, what did you mean by those exten lines and where do they go??`
`01:03.23`	`glm2k`	`fitaly.com or something similar...gime a sec`
`01:06.33`	`IOscanner`	`put exten => s,1,Goto(ext-did,number,1) in the extentions_custom.conf`
`01:06.52`	`IOscanner`	`that should do it`
`01:08.27`	`IOscanner`	`then add to extensions_additional.conf`
`01:08.28`	`Qwell`	`that tdm2400p looks freaking hardcore`
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`01:10.37`	`tehdely`	`lol`
`01:10.39`	`tehdely`	`power just went out at work`
`01:10.48`	`tehdely`	`and my *, already in deployment, is not set up to start on boot yet`
`01:10.53`	`tehdely`	`phone calls start coming in to me`
`01:10.54`	`tehdely`	`:P`
`01:11.16`	`jake1932`	`Qwell: how about echo cans`
`01:11.27`	`Qwell`	`jake1932: Seen the 2400?`
`01:11.29`	`jake1932`	`Qwell: does it fare better than the tdm400p?`
`01:11.33`	`Qwell`	`oh, dunno`
`01:11.42`	`Qwell`	`I just meant the actual image of it...it looks hardcore`
`01:11.49`	`jake1932`	`true`
`01:12.02`	`jake1932`	`i thought the look of the tdm400p was good too though :)`
`01:12.14`	`Qwell`	`these things are freaking monsters, heh`
`01:12.29`	`jake1932`	`reminds me of the old dialogic full cards`
`01:12.43`	`jake1932`	`but you only got 4 ports out of them`
`01:12.45`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`01:12.56`	`tehdely`	`i'd like a version of the tdm400p`
`01:13.01`	`tehdely`	`that doesn't always think callers are hanging up`
`01:13.03`	`tehdely`	`in the middle of calls`
`01:13.06`	`tehdely`	`anyone selling anything like that? :P`
`01:13.32`	`jake1932`	`i hear sagnoma is coming out with an analog card within the next few weeks`
`01:13.48`	`jake1932`	`sangoma`
`01:14.01`	`Qwell`	`tehdely: I doubt it's the card.`
`01:14.06`	`Qwell`	`probably more of a config thing`
`01:14.14`	`tehdely`	`Qwell: i have dicked around with the config more than i would ever want to`
`01:14.18`	`tehdely`	`hell, i had to upgrade to drivers from cvs`
`01:14.22`	`tehdely`	`just to get teh crackles and pops to go away`
`01:14.30`	`tehdely`	`my zapata.conf is a nightmare`
`01:14.34`	`tehdely`	`this is, thankfully, the last issue`
`01:14.37`	`tehdely`	`everything else finally works`
`01:14.44`	`jake1932`	`tehdely: no echo?`
`01:14.50`	`tehdely`	`echo is sorted`
`01:14.52`	`tehdely`	`fxotune did wonders`
`01:15.08`	`jake1932`	`oh - it's fixed?`
`01:15.12`	`tehdely`	`i am running the magical combination of asterisk-stable and zaptel-HEAD`
`01:15.14`	`Qwell`	`which one was it? callprogress? it likes to hangup on things`
`01:15.17`	`X-Rob`	`KB1+5520 is the shit.`
`01:15.23`	`tehdely`	`Qwell: i disabled callprogress to debug`
`01:15.24`	`Qwell`	`tehdely: uhh...that combo shouldn't work`
`01:15.26`	`tehdely`	`the issue didn't go away :(`
`01:15.32`	`tehdely`	`Qwell: it's the only one that would`
`01:15.44`	`tehdely`	`HEAD + HEAD = such terrible ringing distortion sounds on every call, completely unusable`
`01:15.45`	`Qwell`	`I mean, it literally shouldn't work.`
`01:15.49`	`tehdely`	`stable + stable = crackle city`
`01:15.55`	`tehdely`	`stable + head = allllmost smooth sasiling`
`01:16.20`	`IOscanner`	`aatcman: http://pastebin.com/407324 That will fix the problem`
`01:16.24`	`tehdely`	`i know, it doesn't make sense`
`01:16.30`	`tehdely`	`but i was ready to RMA another pair of tdm400ps`
`01:16.37`	`Qwell`	`IOscanner: jmirc? what device?`
`01:16.39`	`tehdely`	`a digium rep heard the crackling on my first call`
`01:16.42`	`tehdely`	`and arranged an rma right away`
`01:16.44`	`tehdely`	`it was that bad`
`01:16.44`	`tehdely`	`heh`
`01:16.50`	`IOscanner`	`jmirc blackberry`
`01:17.02`	`IOscanner`	`7290`
`01:17.39`	`tehdely`	`and i am sure you are thinking "douchebag tehdely probably just installed one over the other, and is running some weird melange of both"`
`01:17.40`	`tehdely`	`but NO!`
`01:17.45`	`tehdely`	`i stage into destroot and package manually`
`01:17.47`	`tehdely`	`always.`
`01:17.47`	`IOscanner`	`first time I used it. It will help kill time when at the airport or if I need to jump on to work out a problem`
`01:19.52`	`jake1932`	`i wonder if it'll work with a 7250`
`01:19.53`	`aatcman`	`now it says "the person you are trying to reach is unavailble"`
`01:20.10`	`jake1932`	`one way to find out...`
`01:20.12`	`tehdely`	`pffft... "it"`
`01:20.18`	`tehdely`	`that is no way to address the voice of asterisk :P`
`01:20.33`	`jake1932`	`she`
`01:20.52`	`tehdely`	`allison is offended`
`01:20.56`	`IOscanner`	`did you put add the did number in the interface for each extension?`
`01:21.02`	`tehdely`	`she has already trapped your ANI`
`01:21.03`	`jake1932`	`like how truck drivers talk about their trucks`
`01:21.04`	`aatcman`	`was I supposed to substitue the extension for th e1?`
`01:21.05`	`IOscanner`	`yep`
`01:21.08`	`tehdely`	`and is on her way to your house`
`01:21.10`	`tehdely`	`to enact vengeance`
`01:21.26`	`IOscanner`	`jake1932: yes it will I have someone else using it`
`01:21.41`	`aatcman`	`?`
`01:21.55`	`jake1932`	`very cool - i just got on with virca - but it's a little primitive`
`01:22.11`	`jake1932`	`adding the bookmark now`
`01:22.53`	`IOscanner`	`in the web interface you will need to add DID numbers for each number both zap and sip account to route to an extension`
`01:23.08`	`IOscanner`	`it should create the ext-did for you then you need to setup routing`
`01:23.44`	`IOscanner`	`since ZAP lines don't have the DID nunber set you need to set that in the extension_custom.conf with the one line under home or what ever you want to call it`
`01:24.17`	`IOscanner`	`you will need to add context home to the zapata.conf file too for your zap line`
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`01:24.59`	`IOscanner`	`brb\`
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`01:29.09`	`Mr_Grim`	`wow`
`01:29.12`	`Mr_Grim`	`large chanel`
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`01:43.23`	`Flauto`	`hi all`
`01:44.39`	`morale`	`can asterisk emulate a modem actually and provide a /dev/ttyS0 port i can dialout with?`
`01:45.27`	`Qwell`	`emulate?`
`01:45.53`	`morale`	`can i not have a modem in this machine and dialout somehow with asterisk?`
`01:46.01`	`morale`	`like provide a virtual modem`
`01:46.25`	`Qwell`	`dialout to where?`
`01:47.08`	`Qwell`	`I'm just not seeing it...you need something to dialout...to`
`01:47.42`	`morale`	`i do have something to dialout to`
`01:48.08`	`Qwell`	`So why even use asterisk? heh`
`01:48.08`	`aatcman`	`ok, I changed the 1 to a 2, now it rings my extensions, but still gives the same erro messga einstead of going to voice mail`
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`01:49.40`	`Qwell`	`morale: perhaps if you explained what you wanted the "modem" to do?`
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`01:52.33`	`msw`	`mog!`
`01:52.37`	`mog_home`	`msw!`
`01:53.00`	`IronHelix`	`he wants a software implementation of V.34 and any other applicable modem protocols that talks on the serial port`
`01:53.14`	`IronHelix`	`aka a softmodem without the actual card`
`01:53.59`	`IronHelix`	`you can try http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+ZapRAS but i dunno about serial interfaces`
`01:54.03`	`littleball`	`hi, anyone here is doing voip termination business? i am looking for traffic termination`
`01:55.13`	`mog_home`	`go to nufone littleball`
`01:55.15`	`mog_home`	`tehy rock`
`01:55.16`	`littleball`	`who have experience of disabling the vga frame buffer ?`
`01:55.25`	`littleball`	`nufone.com?`
`01:55.43`	`Qwell`	`.net`
`01:56.10`	`glm2k`	`littleball: a-z or just us48/canada?`
`01:56.10`	`mog_home`	`thanks qwell`
`01:56.17`	`IronHelix`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+Service+Providers+B2B`
`01:56.22`	`IronHelix`	`if you need more options`
`01:56.26`	`glm2k`	`ah, that's better`
`01:56.29`	`IronHelix`	`page full of companies selling minutes`
`01:57.15`	`littleball`	`glm2k, a-z but europe and us/canada must be strong`
`01:57.58`	`glm2k`	`i've had good results with nufone, voipjet and voxee. sixtel too`
`01:58.20`	`littleball`	`glm2k, what do you mean? rate is good?`
`01:59.03`	`glm2k`	`nono. performance.`
`01:59.03`	`glm2k`	`rates mean little if a provider is always down. bad for customers.`
`01:59.03`	`Qwell`	`most providers are pretty horrible`
`01:59.03`	`mog_home`	`nufone is good`
`01:59.04`	`glm2k`	`aye`
`01:59.07`	`Qwell`	`yeah, nufone doesn't suck`
`01:59.31`	`littleball`	`maybe you can try my service. so far so good. :)`
`01:59.35`	`mog_home`	`nufone wont peer with people who dont bridge directly to pstn`
`01:59.43`	`mog_home`	`so they have really reliable network`
`01:59.59`	`littleball`	`reasonable`
`02:00.26`	`IronHelix`	`thats good`
`02:00.37`	`IronHelix`	`no resellers reselling resellers reselling resellers :)`
`02:00.42`	`mog_home`	`and jerjer is usually hanging around #asterisk`
`02:00.46`	`mog_home`	`and he is cool guy`
`02:01.52`	`littleball`	`reading nuphone now`
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`02:13.16`	`littleball`	`hi, i would like to give out free calling time. anyone interested?`
`02:13.25`	`IronHelix`	`durrr`
`02:13.26`	`IronHelix`	`sure`
`02:13.27`	`IronHelix`	`:D`
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`02:13.54`	`jskcr`	`I am in fucking hell`
`02:14.09`	`IronHelix`	`no, you want #windows`
`02:14.12`	`IronHelix`	`you have the wrong channel`
`02:14.19`	`jskcr`	`Im in south florida`
`02:14.28`	`IronHelix`	`oh :(`
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`02:14.40`	`jskcr`	`After three days I have dialup powered from a generator`
`02:14.43`	`IronHelix`	`anything we can help with?`
`02:14.58`	`IronHelix`	`that blows, although i suppose its better than nothing`
`02:15.33`	`Darwin35`	`12 hour days`
`02:15.33`	`jskcr`	`I had to cut with a gas chainsaw my way out of my house and it took 3.5 hours`
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`02:16.05`	`Darwin35`	`how bad is the damage`
`02:16.30`	`jskcr`	`A 20 megaton nuclear weapon detonated over your county for 4 hours`
`02:16.40`	`IronHelix`	`damn man`
`02:16.41`	`jskcr`	`then times that by over 20 counties`
`02:16.43`	`IronHelix`	`glad you're ok`
`02:16.53`	`jskcr`	`Yea, finnaly found a source for gas`
`02:17.17`	`jskcr`	`3.0 million customers with out power, and they only have 4 million customers`
`02:17.43`	`jskcr`	`very little supplies`
`02:17.49`	`jskcr`	`I had to wait 5 hours to get gas and I pushed the car over 4 miles to get it`
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`02:18.03`	`Darwin35`	`where ar eyou ?`
`02:18.10`	`jskcr`	`and that was for 20 dollars of gas`
`02:18.11`	`IronHelix`	`FLA`
`02:18.12`	`jskcr`	`Im in hell`
`02:18.18`	`jskcr`	`Broward county`
`02:18.22`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, and jskcr, you want to try?`
`02:18.23`	`jskcr`	`fort lauderdale`
`02:18.39`	`Darwin35`	`well I do and dont feel sorry`
`02:18.41`	`IronHelix`	`sure, what do i need to try?`
`02:18.56`	`jskcr`	`Fuck you Darwin35`
`02:19.04`	`Darwin35`	`FT Lauderdale is noce place but you know the island is prown to flodding`
`02:19.07`	`jskcr`	`I want to see how you are when theres nothing left`
`02:19.31`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, you only need a phone/mobile or fix line. go to www.mobmeee.com register with your mobile, then i add credit for you. This is my new services (not launched yet)`
`02:19.34`	`jskcr`	`two gas stations for 4 counties`
`02:19.54`	`IronHelix`	`prone to flooding maybe but still having to chainsaw your way out of your own house is fucking hard core`
`02:20.10`	`Darwin35`	`JSKCR you choose to live there . I grew up where snow does the damage`
`02:20.12`	`jskcr`	`I have a shotgun and if anyone goes into my back yard near the generator they will have a bullet in there head`
`02:20.23`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, i try to get the feedback from users about how easy it easy to use my service`
`02:20.33`	`Darwin35`	`I am from North of the Northern equator`
`02:20.38`	`jskcr`	`Darwin35: ive lived here for 20 years and never seen anything like this`
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`02:21.01`	`Darwin35`	`I delt with snowdrifts and house being coverd for days`
`02:21.06`	`jskcr`	`power trucks can not repair things because the gas stations have no power`
`02:21.17`	`IronHelix`	`lb- hold on a few, im checkin out your site`
`02:21.23`	`IronHelix`	`interesting product`
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`02:21.34`	`jskcr`	`Darwin35: I lived in ohio and have walked to work though a mile of 2 feet of snow, So I know how that goes`
`02:21.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`bweschke: You awake? :P`
`02:21.44`	`Darwin35`	`and no way to get out till the storm passes and the only heat is 5 pounds of blankets and body heat`
`02:22.05`	`jskcr`	`Im one of the lucky ones because I stocked up before the storm`
`02:22.18`	`Darwin35`	`sad part is I miss home and the hiding under the blankets at times`
`02:22.19`	`jskcr`	`Theres like 2 million idiots who did not buy shit`
`02:22.36`	`Darwin35`	`I was not trying to be mean just so you know`
`02:22.38`	`bweschke`	`icebrkr: yes i'm here`
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`02:23.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`bweschke: if Read() doesn't react to ResponseTimeout() then what the hey?!`
`02:23.03`	`jskcr`	`I know`
`02:23.06`	`IronHelix`	`ah crap`
`02:23.08`	`IronHelix`	`i gotta run`
`02:23.08`	`Darwin35`	`I just look at it you move to a place thats pron to floods and storms . you have to tak ewhat you get`
`02:23.12`	`IronHelix`	`sorry LB`
`02:23.13`	`IronHelix`	`bbl`
`02:23.15`	`jskcr`	`The worst part is the federal goverment`
`02:23.28`	`Darwin35`	`why`
`02:23.38`	`iCEBrkr`	`bweschke: I mean, There's a timedout extension for the other apps. And using WaitExten doesn't do what I want`
`02:23.40`	`jskcr`	`If china decieded to attack us tommorow they would have control of all the nukes .`
`02:23.50`	`jskcr`	`The us goverment would still be accessing the situation`
`02:24.08`	`jskcr`	`They are complete idiots`
`02:24.22`	`jskcr`	`They give there drivers delivering supplies cell phones to communicate`
`02:24.35`	`littleball`	`IronHelix`
`02:24.42`	`bweschke`	`icebrkr: but if you dial with a timeout value, if the caller doesn't answer after the timeout value, you don't jump to 't'. it's kinda the same thing. what are you trying to do that WaitExten doesn't do for you?`
`02:24.46`	`littleball`	`are you developer of jabber Helix community?`
`02:25.02`	`jskcr`	`Theres a low earth orbit satellite system owned by the US goverment and its wasted on senators ordering pizza and hookers`
`02:25.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`bweschke: Assign a value to a variable.`
`02:25.35`	`Darwin35`	`lol`
`02:25.36`	`bweschke`	`so why is it that the timeout value is critical to you then?`
`02:25.54`	`Darwin35`	`do we need to dcc you a hooker with hot pizza and beer`
`02:25.59`	`iCEBrkr`	`bweschke: Because if the caller/user doesn't enter something, Read() returns ""`
`02:26.04`	`jskcr`	`not for me, but for the other two million people without food or water`
`02:26.07`	`Darwin35`	`he will be right over`
`02:26.19`	`Darwin35`	`lol`
`02:26.38`	`jskcr`	`I dont see the other asterisk guys from south florida, they must still be in the dark`
`02:26.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`Read() also returns "" if they press #`
`02:27.07`	`bweschke`	`right.. so why not then look at the variable, and if it's length is 0, jump to 't' or whatever other extension you have defined for what you want to happen when someone times out`
`02:27.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`bweschke: and if you're expecting input and it times out, it should go to 't'... Otherwise it returns "" and then I have to force it to 'i'`
`02:27.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`bweschke: Because "" != timed out`
`02:28.05`	`Darwin35`	`JSCR go find them and offer them a place to commune`
`02:28.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`bweschke: well, here's the thing.. "" is an invalid option. I suppose I could make it GotoIf() 't'`
`02:28.14`	`bweschke`	`icebrkr: i hear what you're saying, but for app_read, "" == time out for all intensive purposes`
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`02:28.26`	`Darwin35`	`so they dont go threw dithd aloneraw`
`02:28.36`	`Darwin35`	`with`
`02:28.44`	`Darwin35`	`grr`
`02:28.52`	`Darwin35`	`they need your support`
`02:29.45`	`IronHelix`	`littleball- nah, im just a dude, no relation to jabber helix community, other than that i think jabber rocks`
`02:29.52`	`IronHelix`	`brb ~1hr`
`02:30.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`bweschke: I'll experiment with it tomorrow at work... I'll post up a comment in Mantis after I beat it up with some trial and error :)`
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`02:31.28`	`jskcr`	`I with the national guard would bring cold beer along with the ice and water`
`02:31.43`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, from your nickname, i just guess`
`02:31.44`	`littleball`	`:)`
`02:32.14`	`bweschke`	`GotoIf is going to be your best bet icebrkr... This is what I use. I understand where you're coming from on your original statement, but if you'd be opening up a whole 'nother can of worms if you asked apps to start jumping to 't' based on reaching their own internal timeout values`
`02:32.22`	`Darwin35`	`ok bed time work calls at 4 am`
`02:32.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`bweschke: nods`
`02:32.34`	`Darwin35`	`grr I cant wait till this install is over`
`02:32.39`	`Darwin35`	`hugs all`
`02:32.44`	`iCEBrkr`	`bweschke: Like I said, I'll switch some stuff around when I get into work tomorrow.`
`02:32.50`	`iCEBrkr`	`bweschke: Let me re-think things.`
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`02:33.34`	`jskcr`	`7am to 7pm curfew`
`02:34.02`	`TommyTheKid`	`We are having a problem with "reload" .. or specifically "reload chan_zap.so" .. it seems to make outbound ZAP calls not work.. inbound still works tho. Any idea where to start (we are on CVSHEAD/CENTOS4.2/te410p) .. uh? anything else?`
`02:34.13`	`iCEBrkr`	`TommyTheKid: Do not trust 'reload'`
`02:34.16`	`TommyTheKid`	`the only way to get it working again is "restart"`
`02:34.43`	`jskcr`	`TommyTheKid: ya tried 1.20 beta?`
`02:34.51`	`iCEBrkr`	`TommyTheKid: The most reliable way is to 'stop now' and just restart Asterisk`
`02:35.08`	`glomph`	`or restart now`
`02:35.15`	`TommyTheKid`	`jskcr: wouldn't that be older than CVSHEAD?`
`02:35.29`	`jskcr`	`yes`
`02:35.30`	`iCEBrkr`	`I've never trusted restart/reload`
`02:35.35`	`TommyTheKid`	`iCEBrkr/glomph yea restart now or stop now and starting seems to do it`
`02:35.37`	`iCEBrkr`	`It's like any linux service.. Stop/start`
`02:36.03`	`TommyTheKid`	`well I am still in the setting up / debugging / oh shit how does this thing work stage. .so I am using -vvvc still :)`
`02:36.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`hehe`
`02:36.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`It's all good`
`02:36.50`	`jskcr`	`theres another restart for asterisk that works well`
`02:37.03`	`TommyTheKid`	`working on IAX (rsa) thru firewalls now :-/`
`02:37.05`	`jskcr`	`try restart when convenient`
`02:37.15`	`jskcr`	`type in restart when convenient`
`02:37.42`	`jskcr`	`It restarts it when there is a empty call volume`
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`02:37.52`	`TommyTheKid`	`restart now becomes incredibly convenient when outbound calls stop working :)`
`02:38.07`	`TommyTheKid`	`but I will keep that in mind :)`
`02:38.07`	`Flauto`	`i use it all the time`
`02:38.21`	`Flauto`	`it takes a few seconds only`
`02:39.02`	`jskcr`	`TommyTheKid: are they digium boards the zap channels?`
`02:39.02`	`Flauto`	`jskcr, tommy, can i ask a question`
`02:39.07`	`jskcr`	`sure`
`02:39.12`	`Flauto`	`thanks`
`02:39.21`	`Flauto`	`i am trying to play with enum look up`
`02:39.37`	`TommyTheKid`	`I have a question about IAX (trunk) thru a one way firewall.. I can only connect from one to the other but not back because of the evil firewall (that we dont control).. I think I can send calls to him OK (but he hasnt added my entry yet) .. will he be able to make calls back to my users?`
`02:39.48`	`TommyTheKid`	`jskcr: yes TE410p`
`02:39.52`	`Flauto`	`it says lookup successful but then it tells me the call can not go through`
`02:40.02`	`jskcr`	`Flauto: RFC 3761`
`02:40.24`	`Flauto`	`jskcr whta is that?`
`02:40.34`	`jskcr`	`the rfc for enum`
`02:40.48`	`Flauto`	`where can i config it`
`02:41.13`	`jskcr`	`try using a sip debug and see where the looking is trying to go and then use a soft phone to dial it manualy to see if it goes through`
`02:41.15`	`Flauto`	`lin`
`02:41.56`	`TommyTheKid`	`can I alias commands? like iax -> iax2 (somehow I keep forgetting the 2, cause the config file doesnt have it I guess)`
`02:42.11`	`iCEBrkr`	`TommyTheKid: the tab key is your friend`
`02:42.18`	`TommyTheKid`	`yes :)`
`02:42.35`	`TommyTheKid`	`I'd also like to alias reload -> echo "Dont use reload damn you"`
`02:43.19`	`Flauto`	`i am new to asterisk jskcr, would you tell me more?`
`02:43.20`	`TommyTheKid`	`I guess (shiver) i could edit C code.. I meant is there any "configure" options to change CLI commands or disable them`
`02:43.34`	`glomph`	`Anybody have the experience of Zap/pseudo channels just hanging around, after MeetMe sessions?`
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`02:44.07`	`glomph`	`They last forever, and prevent 'stop gracefully', etc.`
`02:44.07`	`Flauto`	`and also, jskcr, i am looking for something like a digium card`
`02:44.15`	`Flauto`	`do you know what should i get?`
`02:44.42`	`jskcr`	`how many lines`
`02:44.50`	`glomph`	`something like a digium card.... digitnetworks.com`
`02:44.58`	`jskcr`	`oh you mean a x100p`
`02:45.05`	`jskcr`	`or a inshit echo modem`
`02:45.23`	`Flauto`	`jskcr, i dont' really know those stuff`
`02:45.29`	`jskcr`	`Yea they suck`
`02:45.40`	`Flauto`	`so i want if you can tell me about what i should get`
`02:45.42`	`jskcr`	`I have the 4 fxo digium cards and they are okay`
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`02:45.54`	`Flauto`	`i have heard of x100p`
`02:46.00`	`jskcr`	`how many lines`
`02:46.08`	`littleball`	`i am using 4 port E1 card, it is good`
`02:46.21`	`Flauto`	`and i heard it not working well sometimes`
`02:46.31`	`jskcr`	`quad span e'1 cards are good`
`02:46.32`	`glomph`	`yep I have 3 of those going, works perfectly if used in PRI mode`
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`02:46.46`	`jskcr`	`tdm's can sometimes cause you to pull out your hair with echo`
`02:46.46`	`littleball`	`yes, also for me`
`02:46.48`	`Flauto`	`i need like two and i need to put one in with pstn`
`02:47.15`	`littleball`	`echo and jittery are problems sometimes`
`02:47.27`	`glomph`	`Straight T1 or E1 into a PBX is sort of a nightmare. PRI is a piece of cake`
`02:47.29`	`jskcr`	`frame slips are a big problem two`
`02:47.49`	`jskcr`	`I have decided that spandsp is a piece of shit for faxes and switched to hylafax and real fax modes`
`02:47.52`	`jskcr`	`err modems`
`02:48.32`	`littleball`	`jskcr, for what purpose?`
`02:48.40`	`jskcr`	`for recieving and sending faxes`
`02:48.41`	`Flauto`	`e1 is good`
`02:48.51`	`Flauto`	`how much does it cost`
`02:48.59`	`jskcr`	`brb`
`02:49.02`	`littleball`	`Flauto, for card?`
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`02:49.20`	`Flauto`	`someone was telling me e1, is it a card? little`
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`02:49.25`	`littleball`	`yes`
`02:49.31`	`Flauto`	`how much is it`
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`02:49.37`	`littleball`	`it cost me about US$2000`
`02:49.50`	`Flauto`	`that is a lot of money`
`02:49.58`	`docelmo`	`2000 for what?`
`02:50.03`	`TommyTheKid`	`expense it :p`
`02:50.05`	`littleball`	`for business lo`
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`02:50.23`	`TestPilot`	`anyone know if Asterisk & wildcard TE### products work on the new Sun x86 AMD Opteron servers?`
`02:50.39`	`docelmo`	`There is a port for Solaris`
`02:50.52`	`docelmo`	`I would imagine since its x86 that the WC shouldd rk`
`02:50.53`	`docelmo`	`work`
`02:50.57`	`littleball`	`TestPilot, what is the cost of this Sun server?`
`02:51.01`	`TestPilot`	`new sun x86 run linux`
`02:51.07`	`TommyTheKid`	`thats too`
`02:51.17`	`TommyTheKid`	`we are running on a v20z running CentOS 4.2`
`02:51.30`	`TestPilot`	`entry level <1k http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/x2100/`
`02:51.32`	`Flauto`	`little, is there anything much cheaper and it still works well?`
`02:51.34`	`TommyTheKid`	`if we could run Soalris x86, we would be MUCH happier`
`02:51.56`	`TestPilot`	`docelmo.. where is info for the solaris port?`
`02:51.58`	`TommyTheKid`	`if you build it yourself, you can probably go cheaper..`
`02:52.10`	`littleball`	`Flauto, depends on what you want. If you only need to support a few channel, you can get cheap one`
`02:52.18`	`TestPilot`	`tommythekid.. sorry not familiar with centos 4.2?`
`02:52.19`	`docelmo`	`Check the wiki`
`02:52.24`	`TommyTheKid`	`if you do buy.. make sure to get the "SP" option on the lower end.. its sweet to be able to powercycle, upgrade bios, reinstall, etc from remote`
`02:52.38`	`TommyTheKid`	`CentOS == Red Hat Enterprise thats free`
`02:52.50`	`Flauto`	`like a couple of lines would be okay`
`02:53.13`	`TommyTheKid`	`I wonder tho.. does asterisk really need 64 bit :p`
`02:53.26`	`orlok`	`what, Sco?`
`02:53.27`	`orlok`	`:)`
`02:53.58`	`TestPilot`	`tommythekid... what telephony hardward are u using on the v20z`
`02:54.05`	`jskcr`	`TommyTheKid: I have centos 4.2 running but for 64 bit systems like amd 64 and intel em64t gentoo is better`
`02:54.06`	`TommyTheKid`	`TE-410p`
`02:54.15`	`littleball`	`Flauto, then get cheap digium card.`
`02:54.28`	`TommyTheKid`	`actually we are using an old LX50 at the moment because our v20z is the SER server right now :)`
`02:54.35`	`TommyTheKid`	`(as SER comes with Solaris 10)`
`02:54.43`	`docelmo`	`Sun Solaris info for Asterisk: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+Solaris+Support`
`02:54.44`	`Flauto`	`what kind, and how much`
`02:54.47`	`jskcr`	`SER is easier than asterisk to compile`
`02:54.55`	`TommyTheKid`	`it does far less`
`02:54.57`	`littleball`	`TestPilot, there is no price there.`
`02:55.09`	`littleball`	`TestPilot, what price you got?`
`02:55.18`	`jskcr`	`I have installed quite a few sunfires they are pieces of shit for the price`
`02:55.26`	`docelmo`	`ok going to bed..`
`02:55.32`	`jskcr`	`there rack mount racks bend like a reed in the wind`
`02:56.02`	`jskcr`	`your better off getting a clone intel board dual xeon then a sunfire`
`02:56.04`	`TommyTheKid`	`heh`
`02:56.18`	`TommyTheKid`	`I haven't rack'd them.. I am always remote from my server.. havent even seen it`
`02:56.22`	`Flauto`	`jskcr, would you tell me more about the enum look up ?`
`02:56.31`	`jskcr`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-ENUM`
`02:56.38`	`jskcr`	`no im too tired`
`02:56.39`	`TommyTheKid`	`but I was able to upgrade the firmware and install linux from remote :)`
`02:56.42`	`littleball`	`i am interested in big server or mini box. anyone around has experience of using mini box for asterisk?`
`02:57.12`	`jskcr`	`I have been cutting trees with a gas chainsaw all day, theres the link, use sip debug in asterisk console to see if the enum is correct and then try it on a softphone`
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`02:59.38`	`TommyTheKid`	`mmm gas fumes`
`02:59.50`	`TestPilot`	`littleball`
`02:59.57`	`jskcr`	`Ya, I have to refill the generator in about a hour`
`03:00.03`	`TestPilot`	`sure there is.. price at the top.. starts at $795`
`03:00.11`	`jskcr`	`That means no power for 3-5 minutes while it cools down`
`03:00.31`	`littleball`	`TestPilot, thanks`
`03:00.38`	`littleball`	`cheap`
`03:01.17`	`TommyTheKid`	`laptop?`
`03:01.18`	`TommyTheKid`	`UPS?`
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`03:03.31`	`jskcr`	`Im off to bed`
`03:03.32`	`jmardones`	`hi all`
`03:03.41`	`Flauto`	`bye jskcr`
`03:03.43`	`Flauto`	`thanks`
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`03:03.55`	`Flauto`	`i am still looking for enum info at the page`
`03:04.00`	`jskcr`	`Ill be back on tommorow If I have enough gas for the generator`
`03:04.04`	`Flauto`	`it seems a lot of reading`
`03:04.16`	`Flauto`	`where are you, jskcr`
`03:04.21`	`Flauto`	`no gas?`
`03:04.22`	`jskcr`	`south florida`
`03:04.27`	`Flauto`	`man,i am sorry`
`03:04.33`	`Flauto`	`power is still out?`
`03:04.33`	`jskcr`	`no gas, no water, no ice`
`03:04.34`	`TommyTheKid`	`ouch mrs flinstone ?`
`03:04.50`	`jskcr`	`lol power will be back on nov 22 is the earliest estimate`
`03:05.05`	`Flauto`	`sorry for you`
`03:05.13`	`littleball`	`TestPilot, did you make asterisk server run on sunfire x2100? using digium card?`
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`03:05.17`	`jskcr`	`I pushed a car 4 miles to get 20 dollars of gas for the generator`
`03:05.32`	`copantl`	`sorry !!`
`03:05.39`	`TommyTheKid`	`woudlnt it have been easier to walk or ride a bike?`
`03:06.00`	`jskcr`	`30 miles to the 1 of the 2 gas stations that was open in over 10 counties`
`03:06.12`	`Flauto`	`man, that is tough`
`03:06.12`	`TommyTheKid`	`jskcr: move`
`03:06.18`	`TommyTheKid`	`we dont have hurricanes in Colorado :p`
`03:06.20`	`TestPilot`	`littleball. don't have an x2100. i am going to be setting up an asterisk server for a client in the near future. traditionally i have more experiense with sun hardware and solaris so that is where i am looking first...`
`03:06.23`	`jskcr`	`lol`
`03:06.40`	`jskcr`	`No you have blizzards, but at least blizzards will keep the beer cold`
`03:06.41`	`TestPilot`	`littleball.. looks like someone does have the zap stuff working on solars 5.9`
`03:06.51`	`TommyTheKid`	`jskcr: exactly`
`03:06.52`	`littleball`	`TestPilot, i see.`
`03:06.52`	`Flauto`	`haha`
`03:07.20`	`TommyTheKid`	`not well tho TestPilot`
`03:07.34`	`jskcr`	`All I want is a how shower, I have not had one since sunday and theres a boil water (or as I call it oh shit theres no power at the water plant) order for the whole county`
`03:07.39`	`jskcr`	`s/how/hot`
`03:07.47`	`TommyTheKid`	`... works but the timing is all wrong ...`
`03:07.53`	`TommyTheKid`	`.. 100% CPU kernel ...`
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`03:08.45`	`TommyTheKid`	`"compiles and loads" != works`
`03:08.52`	`jskcr`	`im off, theres two days of gas left and a 12 pack of beer. I got a car full of gas and a syphon ;)`
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`03:09.08`	`TommyTheKid`	`lol`
`03:09.16`	`Flauto`	`bye jskcr`
`03:09.36`	`TommyTheKid`	`later jskcr`
`03:09.43`	`jskcr`	`bye all.`
`03:10.19`	`jskcr`	`send some money to the red cross, they are one of the few who are giving out hot meals, I dont need it because of the generator and the microwave, but the other 2 million people do`
`03:10.23`	`kuku5`	`anyone using astbill in here?`
`03:10.34`	`jskcr`	`gnite`
`03:12.07`	`littleball`	`kuku5, what is astbill?`
`03:12.48`	`copantl`	`can some one help me with amportal?`
`03:13.24`	`TommyTheKid`	`hmm.. speaking of bill.. I need to figure out how to access like "billing data" ,,, I don't intend to need it, but if someone starts abusing, I want to be able to look back and authoritatively say who should be fired :p`
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`03:15.57`	`_Thor`	`Hello everybody!.. What's the dialplan variable that holds the outgoing phone number dialed?`
`03:17.00`	`littleball`	`CALLERIDNUM`
`03:17.18`	`littleball`	`README.variables`
`03:17.51`	`_Thor`	`thanks a lot...where is that README.variables located?`
`03:18.17`	`copantl`	`some one know wha't means? :Non-codec capabilities: us - 0x1 (telephone-event), peer - 0x1 (telephone-event), combined - 0x1 (telephone-event)`
`03:18.25`	`littleball`	`asteriskinstallation/doc/`
`03:19.16`	`copantl`	`i'm unable to place calls from my sips phones throught a te110p`
`03:19.21`	`_Thor`	`great, found it... Thank you`
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`03:20.35`	`copantl`	`but i can place calls to my voice mail`
`03:21.12`	`copantl`	`can be the codec?`
`03:21.21`	`copantl`	`g729?`
`03:25.28`	`bweschke`	`copantl: if your server is licensed for 729 and has licenses available at the time you're trying to get into vmail, yes`
`03:27.44`	`ManxPower`	`DACS and DACSRBS have to be one of the best features of Asterisk`
`03:28.25`	`copantl`	`yes i have licences`
`03:28.41`	`ManxPower`	`I had saved out ass several times`
`03:28.46`	`copantl`	`i gonna change all to ulaw`
`03:29.07`	`ManxPower`	`_Thor, That would be ${EXTEN}`
`03:29.47`	`ManxPower`	`copantl, confirm your licenses are active. Let me double check the command to do that`
`03:30.13`	`kuku5`	`littleball: its a billing app`
`03:30.31`	`ManxPower`	`voip-1*CLI> show g729`
`03:30.31`	`ManxPower`	`0/0 encoders/decoders of 10 licensed channels are currently in use`
`03:30.34`	`_Thor`	`Hi ManxPower, thank you... I am almost finished with my prepaid app`
`03:30.44`	`ManxPower`	`That's using the Digium G729 on 1.0.x`
`03:31.03`	`littleball`	`kuku5, i google already, :)`
`03:32.04`	`_Thor`	`would not {EXTEN} be the current extension?... it is {CALLERIDNUM}`
`03:32.54`	`_Thor`	`no, no, it is the outgoing dialed number that I want`
`03:33.01`	`ManxPower`	`CALLERIDNUM is the device that is initating the call`
`03:34.18`	`_Thor`	`you are right... It is {EXTEN}... but the documentation doesn't say it well`
`03:34.22`	`TommyTheKid`	`is there some "sound" I should play for that first couple seconds while the channels are coming up.. I read somewhere (voip-info most likely) to play some "innocuous sound" for the first two seconds... monkeys is too long :)`
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`03:37.05`	`copantl`	`how can i know what codec i'm using?`
`03:37.19`	`bweschke`	`show channels`
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`03:37.51`	`netvulture`	`can anybody help me with giving a fake dial tone?`
`03:38.11`	`netvulture`	`i can get tone started - but digits don't turn it off`
`03:38.49`	`Nugget`	`why are you trying to do that?`
`03:38.51`	`TommyTheKid`	`its supposed to shut up when you dial`
`03:39.04`	`TommyTheKid`	`ignorepattern is probably what you want?`
`03:39.18`	`TommyTheKid`	`like so dialtone stays when you hit 9?`
`03:39.31`	`netvulture`	`yeah - but with *70`
`03:39.36`	`Nugget`	`ah`
`03:39.48`	`netvulture`	`so - user dial *70 - then i do a playtones(dialrecall)`
`03:40.11`	`netvulture`	`after setting up to reject any incoming calls while that call is still in progress`
`03:41.00`	`netvulture`	`background() is similar to what i want to do - but would rather not have a .gsm of the dialtone in place`
`03:41.14`	`TommyTheKid`	`maybe make a context for killing calledid and in that put ignorpattern => a70 ? (just a SWAG)`
`03:42.05`	`netvulture`	`but i don't want to ignore the *70`
`03:42.38`	`netvulture`	`*70 should look like a call to the system so that callwait can be disabled`
`03:42.55`	`netvulture`	`at this point the sip call is already in progress`
`03:43.07`	`TommyTheKid`	`guh, I can't seem to get dtmf from my 7960 :(`
`03:43.38`	`dasuberdavid`	`set it to rfc2883`
`03:44.02`	`TommyTheKid`	`ok`
`03:46.08`	`TommyTheKid`	`is that "avt" in my 7960 profile?`
`03:46.13`	`netvulture`	`the whole reason i need to generate tone in the first place is the end device is a analog converter that does not have the ability to generate tone after digits are dialed.`
`03:46.39`	`netvulture`	`so - *70 is the end of the number being dialed as far as the converter is concerned`
`03:47.09`	`TommyTheKid`	`background(please-dial-a-number)`
`03:47.11`	`TommyTheKid`	`waitexten ?`
`03:47.15`	`TommyTheKid`	`why does it have to be dialtone?`
`03:47.21`	`netvulture`	`yes`
`03:47.57`	`TommyTheKid`	`if the end device cant "make" dialtone, then the ignorepattern thing probably wont work?`
`03:48.05`	`netvulture`	`nope`
`03:48.11`	`dasuberdavid`	`no`
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`03:53.30`	`ManxPower`	`MY ATA can generate diatone after digits like a leaing 9 or 0 are dialed.`
`03:53.48`	`ManxPower`	`Many decent ones can (SIPura, Polycom, etc)`
`03:55.42`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ive been reading up on VPNs and wondering about the implications with *. if i set up a "net to net" VPN, i dont gotta worry about forewarding ports and nat right? clients see members of other networks as members of the same network on a different subnet, right?`
`03:56.03`	`netvulture`	`try POS Mediatrix`
`03:56.22`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, ccorrect, as long as the tunnel is not a TCP tunnel.`
`03:56.53`	`FuriousGeorge`	`sweet`
`03:57.01`	`FuriousGeorge`	`thanks ManxPower`
`03:57.08`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, Of course, the VPN will cause some jitter, and that's bad.`
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`03:57.30`	`FuriousGeorge`	`not sweet :)`
`03:57.30`	`ManxPower`	`If you have decent jitterbuffer at each endpoint that should not be an issue, if the VPN is good.`
`03:57.42`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, Try it an see.`
`03:58.09`	`netvulture`	`I think i will just have to use background`
`03:58.11`	`littleball`	`ManxPower, what is the function of jitterbuffer?`
`03:58.18`	`ManxPower`	`I did VoIP over GRE tunnels (sort of like a VPN without encrpytion) for a long time with no significant issues.`
`03:58.49`	`ManxPower`	`littleball, You will learn about them in due time, grasshopper.`
`03:58.55`	`cardenasdouglas`	`hi, all`
`03:59.18`	`FuriousGeorge`	`define good? i use ipcop which seems to support it built-in. i just designate the left and right networks. i was thinking of always making the local box left, and having the remote box be right. and doing this for 4 boxes in every possible combinations`
`03:59.26`	`ManxPower`	`TommyTheKid, I believe avt is another name for rfc2833, but I'm not totally sure.`
`03:59.40`	`TommyTheKid`	`haha.. only problem I had was "she" couldnt change my password becuase the file is owned by root, and ast is running asterisk`
`03:59.50`	`jeffik`	`ManxPower: I have a quesiton about latency`
`03:59.52`	`TommyTheKid`	`ManxPower: yes.. that worked avt :)`
`04:00.03`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, with stuff like this, the only way you will know if it works is to try it.`
`04:00.05`	`TommyTheKid`	`they had "none" in SIPDefault.cnf :(`
`04:00.34`	`cardenasdouglas`	`I got a small problem..`
`04:00.42`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ManxPower: its the encryption itself that creates the jitter, no?`
`04:00.58`	`cardenasdouglas`	`I am trying to register a phone from the internet to my internal network.`
`04:00.59`	`ManxPower`	`TommyTheKid, Cisco has some odd defaults. I'm still bitter about a Cisco RS232 port defaulting to 8 data bits, no parity, TWO stop bits`
`04:01.05`	`cardenasdouglas`	`It does not seem to work.`
`04:01.14`	`ManxPower`	`FuriousGeorge, That can be the most significant cause of jitter.`
`04:01.15`	`TommyTheKid`	`they have an RS232 port? :)`
`04:01.18`	`TommyTheKid`	`heh`
`04:01.24`	`ManxPower`	`TommyTheKid, Cisco routers.`
`04:01.24`	`cardenasdouglas`	`I did port forwarding on my router and it does not seem to work..`
`04:01.35`	`TommyTheKid`	`oh I didnt know they used 2 stop bits`
`04:01.59`	`TommyTheKid`	`is there a .. firmware? for the 7960 to talk AIX.. sip is really a pain in my ass with firewalls :)`
`04:01.59`	`ManxPower`	`I don't use Cisco phones because of their horrid licensing for the firmware, and the fact they don't come with a power supply`
`04:02.16`	`TommyTheKid`	`heh`
`04:02.20`	`TommyTheKid`	`I just use whats on my desk`
`04:02.23`	`ManxPower`	`We use Polycoms`
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`04:02.39`	`TommyTheKid`	`i have one of them too.. but its configured for Lucent AES :(`
`04:02.52`	`copantl`	`i erase the codec g729 from my modules and i changed my sips to ulaw , what it's means: Capabilities: us - 0x4 (ulaw), peer - audio=0x51d (g723\|ulaw\|alaw\|g726\|g729\|ilbc)/video=0x0 (nothing), combined - 0x4 (ulaw)`
`04:02.52`	`copantl`	`Non-codec capabilities: us - 0x1 (telephone-event), peer - 0x1 (telephone-event), combined - 0x1 (telephone-event)`
`04:03.01`	`TommyTheKid`	`which is still giving me 604 when I try to hand calls off to it... i have warned the AES admin`
`04:03.49`	`ManxPower`	`copantl, that means Asterisk is saying it only supports ulaw, the device is saying it supports many codecs, and the only codec the two have in common is ulaw, which is good.`
`04:04.00`	`TommyTheKid`	`but, admittedly its about the only softphone that I have seen work on Solaris SPARC sunray servers`
`04:04.39`	`TommyTheKid`	`nite`
`04:05.17`	`copantl`	`but i'm unable to place a call ..only for voice mail`
`04:05.59`	`Brijn`	`Quick Q, would it be a good idea to use Asterisk CVS instead of the latest stable.. Many people seems to run CVS?`
`04:06.44`	`TommyTheKid`	`Brijn: curious question.. we had a problem with our PRI card and digium wouldnt even talk to us till we were on CVS :)`
`04:07.09`	`mog_home`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:07.14`	`mog_home`	`to not solve same bug twice`
`04:07.25`	`Brijn`	`Tommy: so the answer is yes, run CVS :)`
`04:07.30`	`TommyTheKid`	`understood.. I wanted to run CVS all along, but yes.. run CVS!`
`04:07.40`	`Qwell`	`mog_home: Whats up with the tdm2400p being 8 feet long?`
`04:07.43`	`TommyTheKid`	`but the people I work with sometimes still want to install Solaris 9`
`04:08.08`	`TommyTheKid`	`( as opposed to 10 or express)`
`04:08.25`	`fugitivo`	`lol`
`04:08.25`	`fugitivo`	`really?`
`04:08.27`	`mog_home`	`lol`
`04:08.27`	`Brijn`	`With other programs you are really at the bleeding edge.. and there is a serious chance that some builds might not even run.. Is that the same for CVS *, or is QC very good, even for CVAS`
`04:08.33`	`littleball`	`hi, who is from GEORGIA ATLANTA?`
`04:08.34`	`mog_home`	`you need modules`
`04:08.40`	`TommyTheKid`	`Qwell: heh did you just find out what those funny slot things were for on the other end of your case :)`
`04:08.41`	`mog_home`	`where is only so many ways to go`
`04:08.50`	`mog_home`	`if we did a 24 fxs only card it might have been smaller`
`04:08.59`	`mog_home`	`but full height full length`
`04:09.02`	`mog_home`	`whats wrong with that`
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`04:12.42`	`drumkilla`	`mog_home: no kiddin'. It's a friggin' modular channel bank on a card!`
`04:13.03`	`mog_home`	`w00t`
`04:13.16`	`drumkilla`	`it's sexy ... mmmmmm ...`
`04:13.27`	`mog_home`	`im getting one for support tommorrow`
`04:13.30`	`TommyTheKid`	`man I didnt know this stuff was sexy...`
`04:13.39`	`TommyTheKid`	`now I may need to travel to the bay area so I can see my server :p`
`04:13.46`	`drumkilla`	`oh heck yeah`
`04:15.27`	`reallost1`	`grr. I've read all the short docs on voip-info, but where do I put the db info at for RealTime config for sipusers...`
`04:16.37`	`cardenasdouglas`	`do I have to have port 8000 open to register sip phones from the internet to my private network server?`
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`04:17.32`	`Qwell`	`So, does the 2400p come with the amphenol connector?`
`04:17.40`	`drumkilla`	`Qwell: it's on the card, yes`
`04:17.43`	`Qwell`	`I mean...`
`04:17.46`	`drumkilla`	`cable?`
`04:17.46`	`fugitivo`	`how much is the 2400p?`
`04:17.47`	`Qwell`	`the part that plugs into it`
`04:17.48`	`Qwell`	`yeah`
`04:17.52`	`drumkilla`	`unknown.`
`04:17.54`	`Qwell`	`fugitivo: I was wondering that too`
`04:18.13`	`JunK-Y`	`ive heard starting at 700$us, ive no idea if its true.`
`04:18.15`	`mog_home`	`1,000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 dollars`
`04:18.17`	`fugitivo`	`so 1 module, are 4 ports, right?`
`04:18.21`	`mog_home`	`yes`
`04:18.21`	`Qwell`	`fugitivo: yeah`
`04:18.28`	`JunK-Y`	`mog_home: 3.14159 ?`
`04:18.29`	`TommyTheKid`	`cardenasdouglas: 8000? I would figure udp/5060 and a ton of rtp ports`
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`04:18.41`	`mog_home`	`pi?`
`04:18.43`	`cardenasdouglas`	`ok..`
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`04:19.04`	`cardenasdouglas`	`that is what I am trying to get open in my firewall. but still do not find which one i need..`
`04:19.08`	`fugitivo`	`how much each module?`
`04:19.12`	`cardenasdouglas`	`Maybe 5082.`
`04:19.20`	`mog_home`	`call sales`
`04:19.29`	`mog_home`	`they probably will be able to ball park it`
`04:19.34`	`mog_home`	`i have no idea`
`04:20.45`	`mog_home`	`i didnt get any calls for 2 days`
`04:20.55`	`mog_home`	`because i renamed the app i was working on`
`04:20.55`	`TommyTheKid`	`mog_home: wasn't that nice :)`
`04:20.56`	`fugitivo`	`2 days? lol`
`04:20.59`	`mog_home`	`it was my own fault`
`04:21.01`	`mog_home`	`but damn`
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`04:21.06`	`mog_home`	`yeah`
`04:21.14`	`amonroy`	`I'm trying to figure out if I can implement an system that sends and receives SMS messages in the US. The first result in google for "sms asterisk" is a page about someone using it in UK, but he doesn't explain what he did in asterisk newbie language. Do you guys know?`
`04:22.10`	`niZon`	`i can do SMS using my provider's email to SMS gateway`
`04:22.12`	`niZon`	`:P`
`04:22.21`	`TommyTheKid`	`or web2sms :)`
`04:22.24`	`Qwell`	`Wasn't somebody working on like app_sms?`
`04:22.29`	`n0rf-`	`yeah rub it in..`
`04:22.34`	`fugitivo`	`i had problems like that using a x100p clone`
`04:22.34`	`fugitivo`	`didn't detect the hangup`
`04:22.34`	`fugitivo`	`and the line was busy`
`04:22.36`	`fugitivo`	`amonroy: you can use a gsm device`
`04:23.07`	`fugitivo`	`amonroy: like http://www.2n.cz/products/gsm_gateways.html`
`04:23.13`	`amonroy`	`fugitivo: that sounds good, I found some pcmcia gprs/gsm cards... is that what you're talking about?`
`04:23.24`	`fugitivo`	`no, check that link`
`04:23.26`	`fugitivo`	`it's better`
`04:23.45`	`TommyTheKid`	`was there like some sort of massive update.. like all the files had a "P" just now`
`04:24.58`	`amonroy`	`looks pretty cool fugitivo`
`04:24.59`	`amonroy`	`:)`
`04:25.08`	`fugitivo`	`it is`
`04:25.10`	`fugitivo`	`but it's expensive`
`04:25.24`	`TommyTheKid`	`"Doxygen" :)`
`04:25.37`	`fugitivo`	`single gsm port is like 900 euros`
`04:25.58`	`fugitivo`	`well, sleep time`
`04:26.07`	`amonroy`	`wow`
`04:26.14`	`fugitivo`	`g'night`
`04:26.30`	`amonroy`	`so this is something i don't understand: why using sms when you can use email (i.e. 6171234567@sprintpcs.com)`
`04:26.48`	`TommyTheKid`	`yea let the provider do the sms translation`
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`04:27.45`	`amonroy`	`so, why is not everyone using that solution instead of something more complicated?`
`04:27.55`	`amonroy`	`is it because email is less reliable?`
`04:28.08`	`amonroy`	`or because not all cell phone providers offer it?`
`04:28.12`	`TommyTheKid`	`who says SMS is reliable?`
`04:28.25`	`reallost1`	`What is a good prepaid app to use? I saw several on the voip-info site, but any recommendations?`
`04:28.25`	`amonroy`	`yeah, good point`
`04:28.40`	`copantl`	`areskicc`
`04:29.39`	`amonroy`	`perhaps more people have SMS than email, maybe depends on your contract wheather or not you get an #l@cellphoneprovider.com email`
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`04:32.47`	`littleball`	`TommyTheKid, SMS is actually very reliable`
`04:36.58`	`amonroy`	`so is there an SMS module or not?`
`04:37.30`	`littleball`	`sms module? for what purpose?`
`04:37.52`	`amonroy`	`to send/receive SMS messages from asterisk`
`04:38.13`	`mog_home`	`you can use the sms system with a gsm modem plugged into channel bank or tdm card`
`04:38.22`	`mog_home`	`to do sms in the us`
`04:38.25`	`paxr0`	`i have trouble problems, im tryng to use BackgroundDetect to detect when a called response in a PSTN, calldetect "think ringing tone is the called answering", i cant set min<=1000 because Background detect bad interpret... i think my called really cant say a word > 1000ms for a correct detect of event... anybody can suggest a option?`
`04:38.38`	`littleball`	`or connect sms provider through IP. I think this is better way`
`04:38.52`	`mog_home`	`yup its better that way`
`04:39.09`	`mog_home`	`but not aware of any body who lets you message all gateways`
`04:39.32`	`littleball`	`try my service. It almost cover all networks. :)`
`04:39.42`	`mog_home`	`oh nice`
`04:39.45`	`mog_home`	`2 points`
`04:39.46`	`littleball`	`give me your number and let me sms you :)`
`04:39.48`	`amonroy`	`what's your service?`
`04:40.01`	`mog_home`	`i like to stay only so much in touch`
`04:40.29`	`littleball`	`i am sms and voip service provider :) New in voip domain`
`04:41.15`	`littleball`	`amonroy, you want to try, i will give your free credits to try my new system.`
`04:41.25`	`littleball`	`both sms and call`
`04:42.45`	`amonroy`	`sure, sounds interesting....`
`04:42.52`	`FuriousGeorge`	`lets say a remote SIP client on Network_A calls an extension on its Asterisk Server on Network_B, which uses Transfer() in the dialplan to send the call (via IAX) to a server on NetworkC`
`04:43.06`	`FuriousGeorge`	`does the data still travel from A<>B<>C or is it A<>C?`
`04:43.09`	`amonroy`	`how can I try it?`
`04:43.23`	`amonroy`	`is it a service for Singapur?`
`04:43.33`	`littleball`	`amonroy, go to www.mobmeee.com and register first. and then let me know your id, i add credit for you. then you can try immediately`
`04:43.46`	`littleball`	`all the world`
`04:44.59`	`littleball`	`amonroy, i am collecting feedback. that is all`
`04:45.00`	`FuriousGeorge`	`does anyone understand what the hell im talking about?`
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`04:46.11`	`amonroy`	`sounds good... let me try`
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`04:46.11`	`IronHelix`	`furiousgeorge- it will go a-c if canreinvite=yes`
`04:46.24`	`IronHelix`	`if canreinvite=no then it will go a-b-c`
`04:46.24`	`littleball`	`amonroy, i am morntoring. try ...`
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`04:47.22`	`amonroy`	`done`
`04:47.27`	`amonroy`	`my id is amonroy`
`04:47.28`	`littleball`	`are you from MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY?`
`04:47.35`	`amonroy`	`yup`
`04:47.44`	`littleball`	`nice to meet you`
`04:47.47`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: canreinvite is a sip setting no? because my servers at this point communicate via IAX, right?`
`04:47.49`	`littleball`	`let me top credit for yo`
`04:47.53`	`amonroy`	`:)`
`04:48.07`	`IronHelix`	`yes canreinvite=sip`
`04:48.32`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i mean: i know my servers chat via IAX, but if i wanted to take advantage of that Transfer() w/o the bandwidth limitations my severs are gonna have to communicate via sip`
`04:49.13`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: thats actually a ?, not a statement`
`04:49.21`	`IronHelix`	`i know, im looking now`
`04:49.28`	`IronHelix`	`iax definately > sip`
`04:50.07`	`littleball`	`amonroy, click phonebook. and try now`
`04:50.12`	`Flauto`	`hey`
`04:50.22`	`Flauto`	`anyone can help me with fwd sip setup?`
`04:50.30`	`Flauto`	`my iax2 is not working`
`04:50.56`	`FuriousGeorge`	`my servers have sip clients and talk to eachother via iax. now that i think about it, i dont see how i could transfer a call that is sip from point_a to point_b and iax from point_b to point_c w/o point_b in the middle`
`04:50.56`	`IronHelix`	`nobodys is`
`04:51.04`	`IronHelix`	`flauto i think their iax gateway is down`
`04:51.20`	`Flauto`	`it has been down for many times`
`04:51.28`	`littleball`	`amonroy, because you choose amonroy as id, so you need to set Leg A to your phone number (international format). Normally, i ask ppl to register using his/her mobile number`
`04:51.32`	`Flauto`	`iron would you help me to set up sip connection`
`04:51.34`	`Flauto`	`i tried`
`04:51.42`	`Flauto`	`but i can not get incoming calls`
`04:51.43`	`IronHelix`	`sure, what does it say when you try to connect?`
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`04:52.09`	`Flauto`	`and outgoing is going through but other party can not hear me`
`04:52.18`	`IronHelix`	`furious- if you have sip--asterisk--iax--asterisk--sip you wont get a reinvite`
`04:52.26`	`IronHelix`	`the call will go over the iax link`
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`04:52.36`	`IronHelix`	`flauto- you need to set up port forwarding`
`04:52.40`	`Flauto`	`i canceled the iax`
`04:52.46`	`Flauto`	`what port do i need`
`04:52.52`	`Flauto`	`5060`
`04:52.53`	`IronHelix`	`i was talking to furiousgeorge about iax`
`04:52.55`	`Flauto`	`is open`
`04:53.00`	`IronHelix`	`you need 5060 and the rtp ports`
`04:53.06`	`IronHelix`	`edit rtp.conf and set a smaller port range`
`04:53.08`	`Flauto`	`yes`
`04:53.10`	`Flauto`	`they are open`
`04:53.15`	`Flauto`	`10000-20000`
`04:53.15`	`IronHelix`	`give it maybe 100 ports in the 50000-60000 area`
`04:53.26`	`IronHelix`	`or that works`
`04:53.29`	`IronHelix`	`you dont need to change it`
`04:53.33`	`IronHelix`	`i generally do though`
`04:53.37`	`IronHelix`	`anyway, forward those ports`
`04:53.39`	`IronHelix`	`all fo them`
`04:53.43`	`IronHelix`	`udp`
`04:53.48`	`Flauto`	`50000-60000?`
`04:53.50`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: no problem, it seems like the obvious solution would be to create a group of SIP Friends b/w all my servers and they "canreinvite". what do you think?`
`04:54.49`	`IronHelix`	`that might work, then you'd at least chop off one leg and have the call go sip-server1-othersip`
`04:55.01`	`IronHelix`	`and with canreinvite the call data itself wouldn't pass through the server`
`04:55.15`	`Flauto`	`you know what`
`04:55.20`	`IronHelix`	`flauto- forward whatever ends up in rtp.conf`
`04:55.26`	`Flauto`	`i will just keep iax even it is not working`
`04:55.41`	`IronHelix`	`flauto if you forward 10k - 20k it will work`
`04:55.49`	`IronHelix`	`if you dont want to forward that many ports you only need about 100`
`04:55.54`	`Flauto`	`it bothers my other services`
`04:56.03`	`IronHelix`	`set it to maybe 50k -50k100`
`04:56.05`	`Flauto`	`i alreadyopened 10000-20000`
`04:56.08`	`FuriousGeorge`	`... so when it performs the "transfer(sip/serverC/${EXTEN})" it will in essance have the sip client on network_A send its udp data directly to network_C (just making sure i understand)`
`04:56.51`	`IronHelix`	`wouldnt that be sip/${EXTEN}@serverc?`
`04:57.55`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: well, i think it can be wither actually. atm, i only use one sip provider (sipphone) and there i can dial with sip/sipphone/${Exten}`
`04:58.01`	`FuriousGeorge`	`wither=either`
`04:58.07`	`IronHelix`	`interesting`
`04:58.24`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: i dont know if thats universal or idiosychratic to sipphone`
`04:58.26`	`IronHelix`	`ahh, but your entry in sipphone.conf is [sipphone]`
`04:58.31`	`IronHelix`	`that would make more sense`
`04:58.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: exactamundo`
`04:59.02`	`FuriousGeorge`	`thanks for the advice`
`04:59.04`	`IronHelix`	`so if you use sip/provider/extension then it uses that grouping of sip settings`
`04:59.06`	`IronHelix`	`hmmm`
`04:59.09`	`IronHelix`	`my suggestion also`
`04:59.14`	`IronHelix`	`is to set it up with all sip`
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`04:59.24`	`IronHelix`	`and then use ethereal and sip debug to see where the media path is going`
`04:59.29`	`FuriousGeorge`	`what you mean set it up with all sip? to dial that way?`
`04:59.37`	`IronHelix`	`set it up like you just said`
`04:59.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ah`
`04:59.43`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i c what u mean`
`04:59.49`	`IronHelix`	`and then use ethereal and sip debug to make sure if its working`
`04:59.55`	`IronHelix`	`then if you can monitor what its doing`
`05:00.04`	`IronHelix`	`you can more easily play with it until it works the way you want`
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`05:00.26`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: not being too good with networking i would probably use vnstat just to see if the bandwidth is being used or not`
`05:00.40`	`n0rf-`	`or use only ethereal.. its output is far more readable than sip debug :)`
`05:01.24`	`FuriousGeorge`	`this is all part of my master plan to use a sip client with multiple accounts support to have presence and messaging accross sip clients on disparate networks.`
`05:01.33`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i hope it doesnt end up killing me somehow`
`05:02.38`	`IronHelix`	`hehe`
`05:02.47`	`IronHelix`	`you wont die`
`05:02.55`	`IronHelix`	`you may wish you did but you wont`
`05:03.11`	`IronHelix`	`you'll just spend the rest of your life screwing with your phones trying to make a call`
`05:03.23`	`FuriousGeorge`	`a fate worse than death`
`05:03.30`	`IronHelix`	`your friends will wonder why you have 4 phones and still cant take any calls`
`05:03.33`	`st3v`	`What is the best way to forward a call? Right now I made a macro that does Dial(Zap/51c/${ARG1}), where ARG1 will be a cell phone number. I have 4 analog telephone lines connected to Zap/49-51. But in this case, it will always use Zap/51, and not the others. Can I make it so it chooses one of the 4 lines that are open? Or am I doing it the wrong way`
`05:03.39`	`IronHelix`	`and you will try to explain, but they will not understand`
`05:03.53`	`IronHelix`	`st3v- you want zap groups`
`05:04.16`	`n0rf-`	`FuriousGeorge: just filter for 'sip \|\| rtp'`
`05:04.20`	`IronHelix`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Channels+and+Groups give that a shot`
`05:04.37`	`FuriousGeorge`	`st3v: listen to the man he's right, its very easy`
`05:04.50`	`IronHelix`	`it goes in your zap conf file, and if you define group 5 for example, just dial zap/g5/number`
`05:05.05`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and then you can use "chanisavail(zap/g1) to have it either make that cool or fall back to another tech`
`05:05.08`	`FuriousGeorge`	`n0rf-: thanks`
`05:05.25`	`IronHelix`	`it will choose a zap channel that is not active and complete your call`
`05:05.51`	`FuriousGeorge`	`cool=call (above)`
`05:07.46`	`st3v`	`will this be using two lines at once? for example, if someone calls, which will use the first line in the group, then dial the cell number using another line. will that clog both lines until the call is completed?`
`05:08.00`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: im trying to decide if in the topology i mentioned above if both the clients and the servers would have canreinvite set to yes or just the server level friends`
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`05:08.37`	`FuriousGeorge`	`st3v: G1 vs g1, dials from top down or vice versa`
`05:08.45`	`FuriousGeorge`	`read up on it, you will understand`
`05:08.50`	`IronHelix`	`st3v- if you use dial() it will. if you have a bri or pri interface, you can sometimes tell the telco to transfer the call`
`05:09.15`	`IronHelix`	`if your telco supports transfer with some sort of star code you might be able to do that with a dialplan thing`
`05:09.19`	`IronHelix`	`but thats less likely`
`05:09.24`	`st3v`	`I think we have call forwarding on these lines`
`05:09.32`	`IronHelix`	`forwarding is not transfer`
`05:09.36`	`FuriousGeorge`	`st3v: exactly, you tell telco: i want incomming to go from DID 1-> 4 and you tell * to dial out from 4 to 1`
`05:10.04`	`IronHelix`	`forwarding is you dial something and the calls go to the thing you dialed`
`05:10.17`	`IronHelix`	`transfer is you dial something while you're talking and the call you're currently on goes to another #`
`05:11.37`	`IronHelix`	`if you can transfer with a star code, then you would want to first flash the current zap channel, then dial the transfer code, then the number to transfer it to`
`05:11.54`	`IronHelix`	`on the same channel`
`05:12.28`	`IronHelix`	`but yeah as far as groups george is right, tell your telco you want a Hunt Group in the order of lines 1-4, then have * use 4-1`
`05:12.40`	`IronHelix`	`that way as long as there is a free channel calls will go in or out`
`05:13.10`	`st3v`	`I know if the first line is busy, it will go to the second line, and if the second line is busy, it will go to the third, and so on`
`05:13.24`	`IronHelix`	`exactly`
`05:13.25`	`h3x`	`unfortunately that dosent work`
`05:13.34`	`h3x`	`if you do 4-1 it will reorder it internally 1-4`
`05:13.37`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and if you wanna get really snazzy have line 4 hunt to a toll free did on the cheap and pay $0 per month for the number or to fail over, and only 2Cents a minute or so when that is the case`
`05:14.04`	`IronHelix`	`bah, have it failover to an ipkall number or something`
`05:14.08`	`konfuzed`	`wow that was a big netsplit`
`05:14.16`	`IronHelix`	`i know ipkall supports at least 2 or 3 channels`
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`05:14.30`	`FuriousGeorge`	`h3x: what you mean it will reorder it?`
`05:14.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`G is for one way and g is for another?`
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`05:15.36`	`h3x`	`well in zapata.conf to set up hunt groups`
`05:15.40`	`h3x`	`it dosent obey the order you specify`
`05:16.01`	`h3x`	`unless that was considered to be a bug that was fixed recently`
`05:16.38`	`IronHelix`	`it can depending on how you do it`
`05:16.39`	`IronHelix`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+ZAP+channels`
`05:16.40`	`Laplaces`	`Hi need help, configure asterisk, but when i try to call PSTN , got error`
`05:16.44`	`IronHelix`	`scroll down to dialing groups`
`05:16.45`	`IronHelix`	`sup laplaces`
`05:16.51`	`h3x`	`ok`
`05:17.01`	`FuriousGeorge`	`what you mean? i have three zap extensions in a group. if i use G it diales out in the order i named them, and if i use g it does the inverse`
`05:17.17`	`FuriousGeorge`	`dials*`
`05:17.17`	`konfuzed`	`hey ah man`
`05:17.21`	`konfuzed`	`if you have sip--asterisk--iax--asterisk--sip you wont get a reinvite`
`05:17.22`	`Laplaces`	`ERROR : app_dial.c:1110 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'Zap' (cause 0 - Unknown)`
`05:17.36`	`Laplaces`	`Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)`
`05:17.43`	`TommyTheKid`	`Laplaces: dont use reload :)`
`05:17.47`	`TommyTheKid`	`restart now`
`05:17.52`	`Laplaces`	`i did`
`05:17.52`	`IronHelix`	`george- if you do g1 it will try 1-2-3-4. if you do G1 it will do 4-3-2-1`
`05:18.01`	`Laplaces`	`but no luck`
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`05:18.05`	`TommyTheKid`	`same error I was getting when i used reload`
`05:18.12`	`TommyTheKid`	`stop now then restart maybe`
`05:18.18`	`IronHelix`	`restart now also works`
`05:18.27`	`konfuzed`	`is this because sip reinvite syncs up on two ports and then its convert to iax on one port and then back again to two ports cant sync up?`
`05:18.28`	`konfuzed`	`or`
`05:19.02`	`konfuzed`	`because each sip to asterisk will only reinvite to the asterisk and its own sip channel`
`05:19.06`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: i fugured as much when i thought about it a bit. my solution will be: client<sip>asteriskA<sip>asteriskB<sip>client`
`05:19.33`	`Laplaces`	`In zaptel.conf what should i do ,coz my country code is not there ?`
`05:19.37`	`Laplaces`	`i'm in asia`
`05:19.55`	`IronHelix`	`check voip-info.org, there may be some timings for your country that you can add`
`05:20.09`	`konfuzed`	`wow my head just exploded`
`05:20.11`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`05:20.14`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: basically im trying to skip AsteriskA when that is the case and get Client1 right to Client2`
`05:20.59`	`FuriousGeorge`	`or better yet, client1 to AsteriskB`
`05:21.14`	`konfuzed`	`i think this is the fundamental cause of break down that occured in part of my set up here that I havent dealt with yet`
`05:21.46`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i dunno, now im confusing myself. the other option is simply to log every client into every server and voila`
`05:21.54`	`IronHelix`	`george- quick q, why does it matter that these things must have a very direct media stream`
`05:22.27`	`konfuzed`	`hmmm propogate the password files to each server then`
`05:22.29`	`IronHelix`	`why not let it go through three servers, the servers don't mind (its just bandwidth) and iax trunk mode will be more efficient than RTP`
`05:22.32`	`st3v`	`I also have a weird problem: I set up the system so you can press 9 then dial a number. But sometimes it will connect, and sometimes it won't. And in the CLI, it says unable to open '/dev/zap/pseudo' and some other errors.`
`05:22.35`	`konfuzed`	`vis a vis sip.conf of course`
`05:22.50`	`st3v`	`these are all analog lines through a channel bank`
`05:23.11`	`konfuzed`	`so seriously I need to know which of the two contracdictory statements above is wrong.`
`05:23.12`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: think about it: i have 4 asterisk servers, each with sip clients. in order to get sip presence/messaging working with all of them i need to find some sort of workaround. if i use one asterisk box as a "presence server" i dont necessarly want the media stream going through that server when the client is local`
`05:23.28`	`FuriousGeorge`	`when the destination client is local that is`
`05:23.34`	`IronHelix`	`why not?`
`05:24.03`	`Laplaces`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:24.17`	`IronHelix`	`unless you are talking tons of simultaneous calls, * can handle it, bouncing data uses next to no cpu time`
`05:24.29`	`IronHelix`	`you'll run out of netowrk before you run out of cpu`
`05:24.38`	`FuriousGeorge`	`because the poor people on the central presence server will get swamped, not to mention if im using this server just for presence, think of the quality issue with a call going roundabout over the internet and back, just to talk to someone on your local lan`
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`05:24.57`	`IronHelix`	`ohh ic.`
`05:24.58`	`IronHelix`	`hmmm`
`05:25.05`	`IronHelix`	`i assume you're using SIMPLE for presence?`
`05:25.23`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i read about it on the wiki, i forget which one it was but it seemed easy`
`05:25.38`	`IronHelix`	`like what program do the clients run`
`05:25.55`	`FuriousGeorge`	`eyebeam`
`05:26.02`	`IronHelix`	`and just eyebeam?`
`05:26.12`	`FuriousGeorge`	`pretty much`
`05:26.18`	`IronHelix`	`nothing like jabber/xmpp/whatever?`
`05:26.26`	`FuriousGeorge`	`nope`
`05:26.40`	`IronHelix`	`hmmm`
`05:27.03`	`IronHelix`	`what server are you using for presence/im / link me?`
`05:27.49`	`TommyTheKid`	`ok.. ihaq .. I am trying to use macro-stdexten .. and I defined my users "to dial" as SIP/username&cellnumber .. ofcourse that doesnt work.. I have to prefix like ${TRUNK}/cell .. how do I make "cell" go thru the normal routing rules.. ${TRUNK} is bad to use when I can SIP/${EXTEN}@another-gw`
`05:28.10`	`FuriousGeorge`	`dialplan hints. dont forget: eyebeam supports multiple accounts, so every client logs into both its respective server and the presence * server in my solution`
`05:28.17`	`brookshire[home]`	`astjab?`
`05:28.50`	`IronHelix`	`hmmm, how confusing`
`05:29.00`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: but forget all this can reinvite complication, im just gonna log every client into every server, starting with its personal server, problem solved, no cofusion, no dirty work around`
`05:29.15`	`IronHelix`	`that is a dirty work around :\`
`05:29.19`	`IronHelix`	`try this`
`05:29.22`	`IronHelix`	`for each server`
`05:29.25`	`*** part/#asterisk litage (n=nick@203.220.55.70)`
`05:29.26`	`IronHelix`	`include a full sip.conf`
`05:29.34`	`IronHelix`	`with defaultip= and user/pass for each client`
`05:29.38`	`IronHelix`	`if they have static ip's`
`05:29.46`	`konfuzed`	`hmmm if this set up is in place client<iax>pbx<iax>co<sip>DID and for the sake of argument working happily for the client device`
`05:29.48`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`05:30.52`	`konfuzed`	`will that essentially prevent sip phones from working with that DID on the lan side of the *PBX ?`
`05:31.21`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: im not quite sure what your getting at, and while i know i dont need this work around for messaging, for presence i do`
`05:31.43`	`IronHelix`	`assume each pc has a static ip`
`05:31.49`	`brookshire[home]`	`furious: astjab supports presence with messaging`
`05:31.56`	`brookshire[home]`	`is that what you are talking about?`
`05:31.58`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: they dont but i use dynamic dns services`
`05:32.07`	`IronHelix`	`so they dont have static ips`
`05:32.10`	`IronHelix`	`nevermind then`
`05:32.21`	`brookshire[home]`	`res_xmpp?`
`05:32.48`	`IronHelix`	`no hes using something based on SIMPLE i think`
`05:32.52`	`IronHelix`	`eyebeam is the only lcient`
`05:33.33`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: no matter what, in order to get presence working with the dialplan hint=> i /need/ to have either one central presence server (with canreinvite) or log every client into every server`
`05:33.57`	`IronHelix`	`how committed are you to this system?`
`05:34.07`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: im still in the planning phase`
`05:34.11`	`IronHelix`	`thank god`
`05:34.17`	`IronHelix`	`imho hints are an ugly hack`
`05:34.23`	`IronHelix`	`for presence at least`
`05:34.31`	`IronHelix`	`try this`
`05:34.37`	`brookshire[home]`	`astjab looks promising :)`
`05:34.39`	`IronHelix`	`dump the whole * as a presence/im server hting`
`05:34.43`	`IronHelix`	`look at two things`
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`05:34.56`	`IronHelix`	`1. astjab, which brookshire is talking about http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/AstJab`
`05:34.59`	`FuriousGeorge`	`debating between the every client every server method and the central presence server with hints and transfers and canreinvites for bandwidth sanity`
`05:35.18`	`FuriousGeorge`	`brookshire: its specifically getting it working b/t the clients of different * servers that im worrie about`
`05:35.18`	`IronHelix`	`2. jive messenger pluging for asterisk http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk-IM+-+Jive+Software+Integration`
`05:35.35`	`IronHelix`	`george check out my 2nd link`
`05:35.47`	`IronHelix`	`you set up ONE presence server running the Jive Messenger program`
`05:35.59`	`IronHelix`	`clients can use presence and IM with anything that supports the jabber/xmpp protocol`
`05:36.02`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, what is the value of presence here?`
`05:36.09`	`IronHelix`	`he wants it`
`05:36.10`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: last i head exactly 0 non proprietary clients that works with that`
`05:36.23`	`IronHelix`	`are you kidding theres tons of em`
`05:36.43`	`IronHelix`	`http://www.jabber.org/software/clients.shtml pages and pages of them`
`05:36.44`	`FuriousGeorge`	`maybe im confusing it with something else`
`05:37.17`	`IronHelix`	`so your ONE jabber server (running jive messenger) is the presence and IM system`
`05:37.28`	`littleball`	`I am involving jabber system for about 3 years. I am trying to find out where is the value`
`05:37.42`	`brookshire[home]`	`so when people are marked as 'away' they are taken out of a queue`
`05:37.49`	`IronHelix`	`littleball- its better than using * and hint=> for IM`
`05:38.03`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: other problem: eyebeam is not on that list and we have invested in that. other problem, ive never set up a jabber server, and while i have been toying with the idea...`
`05:38.34`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, i don't understand what do you mean "*" and hint=>`
`05:38.49`	`IronHelix`	`he wants to use asterisk with hint => extension as an IM / presence system`
`05:39.06`	`FuriousGeorge`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+presence`
`05:39.11`	`IronHelix`	`checking`
`05:39.41`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i dont understand why some people think that * has no place doing messaging. a phone call is ok, but as soon as its text its frivolous`
`05:39.51`	`IronHelix`	`ehh`
`05:39.53`	`IronHelix`	`wrong presence`
`05:40.02`	`IronHelix`	`i agree that one day * will be awesome for presence/messaging`
`05:40.07`	`IronHelix`	`but IMHO its not there yet`
`05:40.43`	`IronHelix`	`i think something like jive messenger with asterisk plugin will be good`
`05:40.49`	`IronHelix`	`as long as it can run the plugin more than once`
`05:40.54`	`IronHelix`	`and i dont see any reason why it couldnt`
`05:41.01`	`IronHelix`	`so you have your various * servers everywhere`
`05:41.16`	`IronHelix`	`all plugged in via the plugin to the main jive xmpp server`
`05:41.27`	`IronHelix`	`when somebody uses the phone it sets their status to 'on the phone'`
`05:41.38`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, connecting to googletalk is better way to provide presence for asterisk`
`05:42.01`	`IronHelix`	`how would googletalk help you?`
`05:42.37`	`FuriousGeorge`	`littleball, that way if you are calling a client on your local lan by clicking on its presence icon (which people will do) the call goes to google talk back to your local lan.`
`05:42.55`	`littleball`	`googletalk is a big jabber server`
`05:43.09`	`IronHelix`	`but they dont federate`
`05:43.10`	`IronHelix`	`yet`
`05:43.28`	`littleball`	`i am waiting. I am quite sure they will`
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`05:43.47`	`IronHelix`	`they will, they publicly stated so`
`05:44.01`	`IronHelix`	`first with earthlink (who knew they had a jabber server?) and sipphone`
`05:44.10`	`IronHelix`	`then with everybody else once they figure out how not to get spammed`
`05:45.48`	`IronHelix`	`furious george, this way you keep the Jive server directory up to date with everybody's sip info, then get a sip client that supports xmpp presence (xten is currently beta'ing one) and you have click to call everywhere`
`05:45.53`	`IronHelix`	`complete with presence everywhere`
`05:46.11`	`IronHelix`	`so people can set up their contact lists which will have their co workers on them`
`05:46.12`	`IronHelix`	`click to call`
`05:46.15`	`mishehu`	wooohooo, voip spam... new ways to propogate those p`3n1$ d`1ck`y p1ll5
`05:46.27`	`IronHelix`	`and if the guy is on the phone he will be marked as away`
`05:46.42`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: fine, im sold, asterisk-IM it is`
`05:46.47`	`FuriousGeorge`	`now you're stuck with me`
`05:46.49`	`IronHelix`	`lol`
`05:46.51`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i hop[e your happy`
`05:46.55`	`FuriousGeorge`	`;)`
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`05:47.13`	`FuriousGeorge`	`So how do i download and install this`
`05:47.15`	`FuriousGeorge`	`JUST KIDDING`
`05:47.17`	`IronHelix`	`hehe`
`05:47.21`	`IronHelix`	`good :)`
`05:47.31`	`brookshire[home]`	`asterisk + im just make sense.. but that's only because sip supports messaging :(`
`05:47.34`	`IronHelix`	`just make sure that the asterisk-im plugin can connect to more than one * server at a time`
`05:47.49`	`IronHelix`	`or that you can run more than one copy of it at a time`
`05:48.10`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: looking into it`
`05:48.43`	`jaike`	`question guys..has anyone found a way to automatically log off an agent from an extension when another agent tries to log on to that same extension?`
`05:48.43`	`konfuzed`	`oh my did I just understand you correctly to mean that asterisk IAX does not work with jabber im at all ??`
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`05:48.49`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, what is a typic user case of combination of asterisk with presence system like jabber?`
`05:49.07`	`IronHelix`	`anyway, heres an overall thing of what to do: set up your * servers so everybody can call each other, just set up the pbx. Then get a box and install Jive Messenger on it, set up the settings the way you want. Then set up the asterisk-im plugin to link the Jabber server to the Asterisk servers`
`05:49.25`	`jaike`	`am having problems with two agents still logged in on an extension and gets twice the number of calls from the queue`
`05:49.26`	`brookshire[home]`	`littleball: because our sales people don't know how to log out of their queue`
`05:49.44`	`littleball`	`then?`
`05:49.51`	`brookshire[home]`	`eveythough we teach them how to do this everyday`
`05:49.52`	`konfuzed`	`oh man please help un-kon-fuze me`
`05:49.53`	`brookshire[home]`	`they just forget`
`05:49.55`	`konfuzed`	`;*)`
`05:49.55`	`IronHelix`	`konfuzed- iax and jabber are two totally different things, IAX carries voice, jabber carries presence and IMs`
`05:50.06`	`konfuzed`	`yes I know`
`05:50.18`	`konfuzed`	`then you got me so pleased to see jive`
`05:50.32`	`konfuzed`	`which looks to do just what I want with jabber`
`05:50.33`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: the calling part is already working: extensions go 10X and every building gets a prefix so 101 is local but 4101 is somewhere else`
`05:50.44`	`IronHelix`	`excellent`
`05:50.57`	`konfuzed`	`then not im only works with asterisk because of SIP`
`05:51.12`	`littleball`	`brookshire[home], log out of queue?`
`05:51.14`	`IronHelix`	`littelball- its a relatively new thing, but its pretty much what furious is doing- he has his * servers, and it will link with his jive server and each user will be assigned a jabber login as well`
`05:51.43`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, then? what is the benifit?`
`05:51.50`	`IronHelix`	`he will dig up a sip/xmpp combo client (there are a few already, eyebeam has one in beta)`
`05:51.56`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: is it possible to compare the realtive difficulty of administrating asterisk to a jive jabberd`
`05:51.58`	`konfuzed`	`hmmmmmmm`
`05:52.09`	`IronHelix`	`users will have one client, that will support presence, voip, and IM`
`05:52.29`	`konfuzed`	`I want to run only iax starting at the DID across everything to the iaxy`
`05:52.29`	`IronHelix`	`when they talk on the phone, * will inform jive and their jabber status will be set to 'on the phone' or something like that`
`05:52.33`	`littleball`	`yes, what is the direct relationship between presence and asterisk?`
`05:52.37`	`konfuzed`	`yes pros and cons but`
`05:52.45`	`littleball`	`ok. i see.`
`05:52.46`	`IronHelix`	`also, if you set up the directory right, you can click to call from a buddy list`
`05:53.00`	`IronHelix`	`presence can mean two main things`
`05:53.04`	`littleball`	`ya. this is true.`
`05:53.24`	`IronHelix`	`1. snom hint LEDs, that light up when somebody is using the phone (and everything like this, such as on a key system)`
`05:53.27`	`konfuzed`	`am i gathering correctly that such a scenario would not work well with JIVE`
`05:53.30`	`littleball`	`are these features very important?`
`05:53.38`	`IronHelix`	`2. IM presence, like 'im away screwing my dog, leave a message'`
`05:53.48`	`*** join/#asterisk af_ (n=af@ip-142-250.sn1.eutelia.it)`
`05:54.04`	`IronHelix`	`or 'insert 5 lines of emo music lyric here'`
`05:54.11`	`IronHelix`	`jive can deal with both`
`05:54.14`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, only for indication purpose.`
`05:54.23`	`konfuzed`	`IronHelix: thank you`
`05:54.27`	`konfuzed`	`ahhhhhh`
`05:55.32`	`IronHelix`	`the *-im plugin will, when you are on the phone (snom led is on) set your jabber status to be 'on the phone'`
`05:55.32`	`IronHelix`	`then you hang up, it will set it back to whatever it was before you were on the phone`
`05:55.32`	`IronHelix`	`which could be 'away, screwing my dog' or it could be not away (present)`
`05:55.32`	`konfuzed`	`hhmm`
`05:55.32`	`IronHelix`	`(for the record- i dont have a dog)`
`05:55.32`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, i understand. continue to make it clear. how does asterisk get presence info ?`
`05:55.47`	`littleball`	`from extension?`
`05:55.51`	`IronHelix`	`* knows when you are on the phone because it is handing the phone call.`
`05:55.51`	`IronHelix`	`yes`
`05:56.01`	`IronHelix`	`as i understand it the *-im plugin connects to the manager interface`
`05:56.05`	`littleball`	`dial plan extension and then use agi to pass presence info to jabber server?`
`05:56.34`	`IronHelix`	`nah, the -im plugin plugs the jabber server directly into 's manager interface (telnet)`
`05:56.42`	`IronHelix`	`so it sees everything that happens`
`05:56.57`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, i see`
`05:57.07`	`konfuzed`	`so to reclarify , there is no reason to suggest that Jabber and * wont speak happily to each other vis a vis JIVE or JIVE-API`
`05:57.28`	`konfuzed`	`uh to ad coloue`
`05:57.32`	`konfuzed`	`uh to ad colour`
`05:57.33`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, i just wondering whether manager API is robost enough`
`05:57.51`	`konfuzed`	`the asterisk box involved has no sip.conf file`
`05:57.53`	`IronHelix`	`it picks out the juicy bits (hey extension 500 just entered the call, extension 500 is associated with jabber user dude@dudesserver, set him to 'away/on the phone')`
`05:58.00`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`05:58.10`	`IronHelix`	`littleball- manager cna do anything`
`05:58.28`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, i see. i use it extensively.`
`05:58.31`	`IronHelix`	`konfused- the jive plugin (asterisk-im) is the glue between * and jive`
`05:58.58`	`IronHelix`	`i've heard that if you have too many manager connections to one box * will crash (has that been fixed?) so somebody wrote a manager proxy app`
`05:59.45`	`konfuzed`	`and just to doucle check, that plug goes into the asterisk ox the jabber box or the IM-client-software`
`06:00.03`	`IronHelix`	`jabber box`
`06:00.19`	`konfuzed`	`ah`
`06:00.29`	`IronHelix`	`*-im is the asterisk manager interface decoder for Jabber server software`
`06:00.44`	`konfuzed`	`so it enables jabber to talk to asterisk then vs teaching asterisk to talk to jabber`
`06:00.52`	`IronHelix`	`client doesnt care, you can juse bob's jabber client and it should still work`
`06:00.57`	`IronHelix`	`exactly`
`06:01.07`	`konfuzed`	`ah much better`
`06:01.17`	`IronHelix`	`or teaching * to become something it currently isnt (an im server)`
`06:01.22`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, i think some mapping is needed between asterisk phone id to jabber id`
`06:01.39`	`*** join/#asterisk bon (n=bon@217.172.148.5)`
`06:01.44`	`IronHelix`	`yes as i understand it this is done in the *-im plugin side`
`06:01.58`	`IronHelix`	`you tell it extension X is jabber id Y`
`06:01.59`	`konfuzed`	`it seems likely that jabber should be able to relatively easily deal with IAX`
`06:02.00`	`IronHelix`	`or something`
`06:02.04`	`littleball`	`the most important thing is how to explain the value to the end users`
`06:02.09`	`littleball`	`?`
`06:02.13`	`IronHelix`	`why would jabber and iax be compatible`
`06:02.17`	`IronHelix`	`they are apples and oranges`
`06:02.17`	`konfuzed`	`would any of you developers consider that plausable`
`06:02.32`	`konfuzed`	`I did not say compatible`
`06:02.50`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i think i read somewhere that IAX could be taught at the client level to carry other data besides voice, or something`
`06:02.55`	`littleball`	`i can do that easily. please advice what is the attractive for the end users`
`06:03.03`	`konfuzed`	`you can wrap nearly anything in a jabber stream`
`06:03.24`	`littleball`	`why end users need these features?`
`06:03.40`	`IronHelix`	`littleball the attraction is unified messaging`
`06:03.46`	`FuriousGeorge`	`littleball: in real life you dont need to make a phone call necessarily to convey every funtional piece of information you come across`
`06:03.46`	`konfuzed`	`well I must admit to being someone who does not use IM`
`06:04.02`	`IronHelix`	`they have one system which will provide them with contact list, IM, presence, and telephony`
`06:04.03`	`littleball`	`ya.`
`06:04.07`	`IronHelix`	`all wrapped together`
`06:04.20`	`konfuzed`	`of course I know quite a bit about it from a geeky point of view`
`06:04.21`	`FuriousGeorge`	`as a general rule, any conversation that will end with the other party saying "ok" will do fine for messaging`
`06:04.26`	`littleball`	`the problem is that how to let those ppl accept such a relative complex thing`
`06:04.34`	`IronHelix`	`demo it`
`06:04.49`	`FuriousGeorge`	`littleball: these dayys even the "non-techy" are familiar with IM`
`06:04.55`	`littleball`	`ya`
`06:05.04`	`IronHelix`	`combined voice/presence/im is one of those things where you just show some guy how it works and they go WOW THATS COOL`
`06:05.18`	`littleball`	`because they already use msn, yahoo.... and voip`
`06:05.24`	`FuriousGeorge`	`where i work, people were using aim, msn, yahoo etc to talk to eachother`
`06:05.33`	`IronHelix`	`ghetto++`
`06:05.45`	`konfuzed`	`I'm picturing or perhaps transposing the idea of using MS-IM to open voice calls to other messenger users`
`06:06.05`	`littleball`	`ya, everywhere. But it is really attractive to push a solution to combine these two?`
`06:06.15`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: ive heard that jabber supports "`
`06:06.16`	`konfuzed`	`and I suppose I picture a dual voip-pad/im-client`
`06:06.21`	`FuriousGeorge`	`portals" to other IM services like MSN AIm`
`06:06.31`	`IronHelix`	`konfused- exactly same thing`
`06:06.34`	`IronHelix`	`just no microsoft`
`06:06.39`	`konfuzed`	`yeah`
`06:06.52`	`IronHelix`	`*-im can even work with a hard phone as i recall`
`06:07.12`	`IronHelix`	`ie you tell it to dial bob, your phone rings, you pick it up, as soon as you pick it up it dials bob`
`06:07.41`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, making it work is not difficult. But what is the big picture?`
`06:07.43`	`konfuzed`	`yeah so your jabber client to recieve and place calls and check in on voicemail`
`06:07.48`	`*** join/#asterisk Teeli (n=Tili@218.19.68.216)`
`06:07.56`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: right now you could get cellphone network broadband access for a supporting palmtop or laptop via pcmcia, and use that as an * client, though most providers prohibit voice in their terms of use`
`06:08.05`	`FuriousGeorge`	`they're not legally allowed to cut it off`
`06:08.30`	`IronHelix`	`littleball- its conveniant, it saves time, and its really really cool`
`06:08.34`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, i already have a similar service like what you talking about.`
`06:09.00`	`JonR800`	`the big picture is a collaborative office environment that employs both im/voice`
`06:09.05`	`IronHelix`	`plezecall?`
`06:09.09`	`littleball`	`really? then give me more confidence on the trend`
`06:09.16`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: they only annoying thing about it right now, as i see it, is that while there are great jabber clients, none of them are great professional sip/iax clients`
`06:09.28`	`IronHelix`	`i know i've seen at least one`
`06:09.40`	`infinity1`	`JonR800: desktop sharing and video too?`
`06:09.41`	`FuriousGeorge`	`im on the edge of my seat`
`06:09.44`	`konfuzed`	`ok so I pictured putting out a jabber client with our tech support brand on it and make it a com pad back to our tech department via the asterisk pbx`
`06:10.11`	`JonR800`	`infinity1: heh no not there yet.. at least im not aware of any clients.`
`06:10.15`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, PSTN is very very cheap now and it is even cheaper than internet.`
`06:10.28`	`konfuzed`	`JonR800: yeah`
`06:10.32`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: u think like me :)`
`06:10.59`	`IronHelix`	`i dont think pstn minutes are cheaper than voip minutes, that doestn make sense`
`06:11.08`	`IronHelix`	`voip minutes are free...`
`06:11.18`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ive been "picturing" things like the last few you mentioned`
`06:11.22`	`infinity1`	`IronHelix: local pstn are cheaper :)`
`06:11.27`	`littleball`	`i need to pay US$40 /month for broadband. But PSTN,i never use more than $15`
`06:11.29`	`konfuzed`	`voip to voip may be free`
`06:11.42`	`IronHelix`	`i know what you mean tho, there wa sa company called plezecall that did just that, click to call via pstn`
`06:11.45`	`littleball`	`pstn termination is also very very cheap`
`06:11.48`	`konfuzed`	`but any time voip crosses a DID Telecom Toll Gate some body gets charged`
`06:11.53`	`JonR800`	`konfuzed: what do you mean by yeah?`
`06:12.00`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, this is also what i providing now`
`06:12.08`	`littleball`	`IronHelix, www.mobmeee.com`
`06:12.11`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: so what's that jabber/voip client?`
`06:12.13`	`konfuzed`	`JonR800: yeah the big picture`
`06:12.15`	`IronHelix`	`yeah i saw that earlier`
`06:12.18`	`IronHelix`	`it looks cool`
`06:12.21`	`JonR800`	`konfuzed: ahh`
`06:12.21`	`konfuzed`	`too much flow for me to keep up`
`06:12.27`	`IronHelix`	`i dont think anybodys done that for SMS yet`
`06:12.33`	`littleball`	`so, i am always thinking about presence thing`
`06:12.35`	`IronHelix`	`furious- looking`
`06:13.34`	`littleball`	`My feeling told me that i need connect my system to google talk server in the next step. But where is the value....`
`06:13.53`	`infinity1`	`littleball: i don't think googletalk is sip yet`
`06:14.19`	`littleball`	`it is not. why sip? Just work is enough`
`06:14.26`	`IronHelix`	`dont bother with google talk`
`06:14.33`	`IronHelix`	`just run your own jabber server`
`06:14.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`littleball: check out gizmo`
`06:14.43`	`IronHelix`	`and once google talk federates anybody will be able to im back and forth`
`06:14.47`	`littleball`	`i have implement my own jabber server also. :)`
`06:14.54`	`infinity1`	`FuriousGeorge: i checked gizmo out. i haven't gotten it to work 100% with * though :/`
`06:14.57`	`littleball`	`no it is just there. I didn't find any value yet`
`06:15.10`	`infinity1`	`IronHelix: whats so good about having your own jabber serveR?`
`06:15.30`	`FuriousGeorge`	`infinity1: was pretty easy for me, we use it (when its not to lagged) to call certain toll free numbers that we cant even get with our telco dids`
`06:15.32`	`konfuzed`	`ok so here s my target picture ;`
`06:15.43`	`IronHelix`	`for a user it matters not. for a company its nice cuz you get jabber id's of employee@company.com`
`06:15.52`	`FuriousGeorge`	`infinity1: did you follow the example on voip-info`
`06:15.56`	`*** join/#asterisk stoffell (n=stoffell@136.95-200-80.adsl.skynet.be)`
`06:15.58`	`konfuzed`	`low income housing co-op with 104 units`
`06:15.58`	`infinity1`	`FuriousGeorge: yea.`
`06:16.14`	`FuriousGeorge`	`infinity1: ill take a look at ur settings if you want`
`06:16.29`	`IronHelix`	`george try http://www.tipic.com/`
`06:16.30`	`infinity1`	`infinity1: i forget what happened. i remember i could make calls or receive calls. not sure which it was, but both wouldn't work.`
`06:16.41`	`konfuzed`	`install a cat5e network on the propperty with one jack outlet in each unit`
`06:16.51`	`konfuzed`	`runs all to the main incoming bell closet`
`06:16.54`	`IronHelix`	`http://www.tipic.com/tipicim`
`06:17.04`	`infinity1`	`FuriousGeorge: i would say yes, but i'm tyring to relax. thanks for offering though. next time i decide to fight it i'll IM ya :)`
`06:17.20`	`FuriousGeorge`	`littleball: the value in messaging is that its efficient to convey certain information. why waste a line to tell someone "you have a package from so and so here" or "i get off at 7"`
`06:17.22`	`infinity1`	`why don't we just all peer our * boxes.`
`06:17.28`	`IronHelix`	`george- http://www.tipic.com/tipicim it supports iax!`
`06:17.30`	`infinity1`	`:)`
`06:17.35`	`robin_sz`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:17.53`	`konfuzed`	`put on 10 x 4MB ADSL modems load balanced to a gateway/firewall/ to manage the lan`
`06:17.57`	`littleball`	`FuriousGeorge, because i am not sure what will be the next step`
`06:18.02`	`littleball`	`so discussing here`
`06:18.21`	`konfuzed`	`put a 3 grand asterisk box there`
`06:18.33`	`infinity1`	`timc is just a client?`
`06:18.39`	`IronHelix`	`yup`
`06:18.39`	`infinity1`	`er tipic`
`06:19.10`	`konfuzed`	`use a DID provider that will send it all IAX to the the on site PBX`
`06:19.25`	`infinity1`	`IronHelix: Interoperability with MSN, Yahoo!, AIM and ICQ ...hm`
`06:19.35`	`konfuzed`	`then each unit gets an IAXy 100`
`06:19.44`	`konfuzed`	`and plug in their dusty old phone`
`06:19.50`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: you are just a wealth of good information today. that client does look pretty cool`
`06:19.57`	`IronHelix`	`i try :)`
`06:19.59`	`IronHelix`	`konfused ppl are DUM`
`06:19.59`	`infinity1`	`if trillian doesn't get a sip client in their software they're going to get killed`
`06:20.02`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and no one else takes messaging presence seriously`
`06:20.03`	`IronHelix`	`they will throw the iaxy at a wall`
`06:20.10`	`IronHelix`	`and plug their fone into the ethernet jak`
`06:20.26`	`IronHelix`	`infinity - i agree`
`06:20.37`	`IronHelix`	`they have a sip/SIMPLE client plugin written by some guy`
`06:20.41`	`IronHelix`	`its not that good tho`
`06:20.47`	`IronHelix`	`and its just SIMPLE, not sip voice`
`06:21.00`	`infinity1`	`never even heard of SIMPLE`
`06:21.26`	`konfuzed`	`as in my model delivers on their DUM nes ;^) or my model is DUM`
`06:21.30`	`konfuzed`	`just checking`
`06:21.31`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: are you sure that client will work with jive? i notice they have their own jabberd for win32`
`06:21.56`	`IronHelix`	`Sip Instant Messaging Presence and Location Extension (i think)`
`06:22.07`	`IronHelix`	`furious as long as they are xmpp compatible they will work`
`06:22.09`	`IronHelix`	`its a standard protocol`
`06:22.13`	`infinity1`	`oh shit. TipicME is real instant messenger (IM) on your cell phone or mobile device, and the basic version is FREE to download and use!`
`06:22.19`	`IronHelix`	`just as ms outlook works with sendmail as well as exchange`
`06:22.20`	`infinity1`	`...now add sip to that`
`06:22.25`	`IronHelix`	`== :D`
`06:22.43`	`konfuzed`	`ok so I can bolt down the iaxy box`
`06:22.57`	`konfuzed`	`oh wait its supposed to be globaly portable`
`06:22.58`	`IronHelix`	`dont bolt it down`
`06:22.59`	`IronHelix`	`hide it`
`06:23.03`	`IronHelix`	`do this`
`06:23.07`	`konfuzed`	`I could`
`06:23.10`	`IronHelix`	`wire their place with data jacks everywhere`
`06:23.16`	`IronHelix`	`also run cat5 for a phone loop`
`06:23.25`	`IronHelix`	`so give it a 'normal' wiring +data setup`
`06:23.31`	`IronHelix`	`then put the iaxy in a box in the garage`
`06:23.37`	`konfuzed`	`put a large number of them currently use voip to talk da homeland`
`06:24.17`	`IronHelix`	`thats why the bungalow is also wired for data`
`06:24.18`	`konfuzed`	`they will know its voip and use it now is largely that point`
`06:24.20`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`06:24.23`	`IronHelix`	`ahhh`
`06:24.37`	`IronHelix`	`so it doesnt matter if it IS voip as long as it LOOKS LIKE voip`
`06:24.39`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: check out the last link: http://www.tipic.com/node/view/139925`
`06:25.14`	`konfuzed`	`well as long as it Bills like voip.`
`06:25.19`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`06:25.23`	`IronHelix`	`hehe`
`06:25.33`	`IronHelix`	`furious- i dont see where the incompatibility is`
`06:25.34`	`konfuzed`	`with out that there is no room for creative utilization`
`06:25.41`	`konfuzed`	`to feed the nerds`
`06:25.44`	`IronHelix`	`hehe`
`06:25.50`	`IronHelix`	`the nerds will want iax logins`
`06:26.05`	`konfuzed`	`there will only be iax`
`06:26.08`	`mutilator`	`wazaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa`
`06:26.17`	`IronHelix`	`and the dumb nerds will wonder why the sipura box they bought at sears doesnt work right after plugging it in`
`06:26.21`	`konfuzed`	`what the hell do I want sip on my network for>??>`
`06:26.26`	`IronHelix`	`you dont`
`06:26.28`	`FuriousGeorge`	`IronHelix: i see what you mean. on the other hand i see nothing on the wiki, ill d/l it and give it a whirl`
`06:26.28`	`IronHelix`	`they dont know that`
`06:26.36`	`IronHelix`	`give it a shot, its all free, cant hurt`
`06:26.45`	`IronHelix`	`as i recall *-im can be controlled with text commands also`
`06:26.53`	`IronHelix`	`like you IM the server and tell it like CALL BOB`
`06:26.58`	`IronHelix`	`and it executes the command`
`06:27.01`	`IronHelix`	`anyway im outta here`
`06:27.09`	`FuriousGeorge`	`later`
`06:27.27`	`IronHelix`	`if you got q's i check this every now and then and i never disconnect`
`06:27.32`	`IronHelix`	`so drop me a /msg anytime`
`06:27.53`	`FuriousGeorge`	`thx`
`06:27.54`	`IronHelix`	`later all`
`06:27.57`	`FuriousGeorge`	`appreciate`
`06:27.59`	`IronHelix`	`no problem`
`06:28.01`	`IronHelix`	`glad to help`
`06:28.02`	`konfuzed`	`hhhmmm I would hate to presume that just because no body said "it wont work" that this actually means it will work`
`06:28.23`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: define "it"`
`06:28.38`	`konfuzed`	`my target picture above`
`06:29.02`	`FuriousGeorge`	`asteriskIM + jive jabberd + multiple * servers + unified client`
`06:29.41`	`FuriousGeorge`	`its up in the air. im certainly not the guy qualified to give it the "college try" but check back in a month or two :)`
`06:29.48`	`konfuzed`	`104 unit housig complex new lan backed by 10 - 4MB DSL with *PBX on LAN and iaxy clients only`
`06:29.56`	`FuriousGeorge`	`at leas thats my IT`
`06:30.11`	`orlok`	`dont suppose anybody has sip images for 7510/7512's handy?`
`06:30.18`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: you can even use * as an entry system`
`06:30.32`	`konfuzed`	`oh and DID providers sends via IAX to housing complex *`
`06:30.43`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and if you are in the us you can make the camera at the door show up on their tv b/t ch. 95-99`
`06:31.15`	`konfuzed`	`and same provider provides the actual DSL service over the Bell coppper`
`06:31.29`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: good luck finding local iax dids :) sip would be easy, i dunno much about the scale`
`06:31.48`	`konfuzed`	`I got that part already`
`06:31.59`	`FuriousGeorge`	`can i ask where?`
`06:32.10`	`konfuzed`	`in toronto`
`06:32.10`	`FuriousGeorge`	`or is it an industry secret`
`06:32.17`	`FuriousGeorge`	`facinating`
`06:33.05`	`konfuzed`	`they have not really started marketing it`
`06:33.31`	`FuriousGeorge`	`for a 104 analog extensions, each with several phone jacks, thats a lot of ren`
`06:33.32`	`konfuzed`	`they consider themselves a back end it company and not a retailer`
`06:33.39`	`robin_sz`	`I dont suppose anyone has a more recent .deb for * do they?`
`06:33.47`	`robin_sz`	`the one in Sarge is a bit old ...`
`06:33.53`	`konfuzed`	`s/it/IT/`
`06:35.57`	`konfuzed`	`infinity1: so did you figure out why everybody in this channel hasn't just peer thier * boxes`
`06:36.13`	`konfuzed`	`hahah`
`06:36.22`	`FuriousGeorge`	`what a mess of wiring to keep track of, not to mention, if the power is out, people cant use the phone. thats a liability here in the states`
`06:36.36`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: because i dont know that i necesarily wanna talk to you guys`
`06:37.00`	`FuriousGeorge`	`no offense`
`06:37.08`	`konfuzed`	`what mess of wiring?`
`06:37.25`	`konfuzed`	`not offended;^)`
`06:37.29`	`FuriousGeorge`	`you mentioned before 104 analog extensions with * controling the calling, i think`
`06:37.40`	`robin_sz`	`OK, so I installed both the current CVS of * and the latest release of chan_capi ... but I get: loader.c:414 __load_resource: chan_capi.so: load_module failed, returning -1`
`06:37.45`	`FuriousGeorge`	`104 unit appartment was what you were talking about`
`06:37.49`	`robin_sz`	`any clues where next to look?`
`06:37.54`	`konfuzed`	`a certified building network can install all the cables to terminating wlal jacks`
`06:38.07`	`konfuzed`	`sorry`
`06:38.22`	`konfuzed`	`s/building network/building electrician/`
`06:38.55`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: i was wrongly looking at it from the diy perspective,`
`06:39.13`	`FuriousGeorge`	`still though`
`06:39.17`	`konfuzed`	`pop a switch on their and they have computer on internet and an independent VoIP hard Phone at minimum cost and no learning curve`
`06:39.37`	`FuriousGeorge`	`104 unit appartment is gonna have multiple phone jacks`
`06:39.49`	`orlok`	`power over ethernet too`
`06:39.50`	`konfuzed`	`yeah but $25/mth/unit just for the network`
`06:39.51`	`FuriousGeorge`	`per unit, right?`
`06:39.56`	`kuku5`	`FuriousGeorge: why voip ?`
`06:39.57`	`konfuzed`	`then voip services on top`
`06:40.08`	`konfuzed`	`PBX-DID-Minutes`
`06:40.12`	`FuriousGeorge`	`kuku5: im talking about POTS`
`06:40.16`	`kuku5`	`ouch`
`06:40.24`	`konfuzed`	`per apt unit`
`06:40.24`	`kuku5`	`then do it electronically`
`06:40.33`	`h3x`	`do it with channel banks`
`06:40.36`	`konfuzed`	`104 units paying for rent on the property`
`06:40.45`	`kuku5`	`what do they want`
`06:40.48`	`kuku5`	`phone service`
`06:40.50`	`kuku5`	`or paging ?`
`06:40.55`	`kuku5`	`(opening doors )`
`06:41.02`	`robin_sz`	`beer!`
`06:41.03`	`konfuzed`	`housing complex`
`06:41.13`	`konfuzed`	`IP Network Services`
`06:41.17`	`FuriousGeorge`	`h3x: which begs the question: how many phones per port on the bank`
`06:41.26`	`robin_sz`	`personally, Id settle for a working *`
`06:41.30`	`h3x`	`24, derrr`
`06:41.37`	`konfuzed`	`based on cat5e fully switched lan`
`06:41.51`	`kuku5`	`just get 5 pri's`
`06:41.53`	`h3x`	`oh you mean an apartment user putting many devices on a line?`
`06:42.17`	`kuku5`	`and then do a channel bank`
`06:42.26`	`FuriousGeorge`	`h3x: sure, but im thinking about it like this: Joe Public wants to plug his analog phone into a jack in the wall and get a dialtone`
`06:42.35`	`konfuzed`	`h3x: well balance is everything`
`06:42.36`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`06:42.40`	`kuku5`	`and since you want pots after that - run 1 cable to a switch up top`
`06:43.10`	`kuku5`	`FuriousGeorge: 5x pri's-> channel bank-> wiring to units`
`06:43.15`	`copantl`	`help unable to place a call throught a pri TE110p`
`06:43.22`	`FuriousGeorge`	`while you can explain to him why its better that when he use the line in the bedroom his wife cant pick up in the kitchen and hear him, even that at first will be wierd`
`06:43.48`	`konfuzed`	`i am considering a double network one for computer one for voip but`
`06:43.53`	`FuriousGeorge`	`kuku5: so then every jack in every unit gets an extension?`
`06:43.59`	`h3x`	`yeah you arent gonna keep apartment dwellers happy with hard voup phones`
`06:44.08`	`h3x`	`they want cordlesses, fax machines,`
`06:44.16`	`h3x`	`dish and directv receivers`
`06:44.21`	`kuku5`	`FuriousGeorge: every unit gets a did`
`06:44.23`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: on that scale id think youd want a separate physical network`
`06:44.24`	`konfuzed`	`ok ok ok`
`06:44.26`	`h3x`	`"ive fallen and i cant get up" devices`
`06:44.42`	`konfuzed`	`phone companies have abondonded internal wiring here`
`06:45.09`	`h3x`	`they have everywhere`
`06:45.13`	`h3x`	`in 1985 or something`
`06:45.13`	`FuriousGeorge`	`kuku5: or 4 dids if they want, but from a wiring perspective, do you wire every jack in that unit to one FXS device? so it will behave like Joe Public is accustomed, you know?`
`06:45.18`	`h3x`	`run your own wires`
`06:45.32`	`h3x`	`cat3 and cat5`
`06:45.37`	`kuku5`	`1 DID - 1 pair of cables`
`06:45.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`kuku5: or do you have every jack in every unit have its own "physical extension"`
`06:45.48`	`_Thor`	`anybody knows in C what function converts from double to string?`
`06:45.53`	`robin_sz`	`so ... anyone got any more clue on this eicon Diva card before I beat it with hammers?`
`06:46.10`	`konfuzed`	`put all the pbx ports right in the central basement closet with the modems and then clip all the wire running up to each unit and plug it into the port bank off the PBX server`
`06:46.28`	`FuriousGeorge`	`kuku, right, one pair from CO to you, but how many pairs to the room, whats the topology <- thats what im getting at`
`06:46.28`	`kuku5`	`t1's -> channel banks -> wires`
`06:46.36`	`konfuzed`	`actually screw that`
`06:46.38`	`h3x`	`modems?!`
`06:46.42`	`h3x`	`dude`
`06:46.42`	`robin_sz`	`faxs`
`06:46.44`	`h3x`	`PRIs to the telco`
`06:46.48`	`h3x`	`T1s to channel banks`
`06:46.51`	`h3x`	`asterisk in between`
`06:46.53`	`kuku5`	`1 port @ the channel bank = 1 pair of wires = 1 DID =1 line`
`06:47.01`	`konfuzed`	`they need to be able to seemlessly switch back to bell company`
`06:47.04`	`kuku5`	`If you want more #'s at the unit, you have to run more pairs`
`06:47.12`	`robin_sz`	`sigh ....`
`06:47.19`	`kuku5`	`no asterisk`
`06:47.24`	`kuku5`	`no need for asterisk`
`06:47.28`	`konfuzed`	`were not touching current internal phone wiring or jacks in any way.`
`06:47.37`	`kuku5`	`get reliable channel banks from the pri provider`
`06:47.45`	`kuku5`	`if you get 5 pri's from them theyll give it to you`
`06:47.50`	`h3x`	`you need asterisk so you can oversell your trunks`
`06:47.51`	`h3x`	`and make money`
`06:47.58`	`kuku5`	`true`
`06:48.05`	`kuku5`	`b/c billing will be another issue`
`06:48.12`	`h3x`	`i did some shit at a RV park once`
`06:48.16`	`kuku5`	`youll need to know who called where`
`06:48.22`	`h3x`	`they had a nortel meridian with 800 extensions and only 3 PRIs`
`06:48.39`	`konfuzed`	`they can use a phone cable extension to bridge the iaxy to one telephone jack which then puts all thier apartment jacks on the iaxy`
`06:48.40`	`h3x`	`you can do some serious overselling in multi-dwelling units`
`06:48.56`	`h3x`	`iaxys suck ass`
`06:49.02`	`h3x`	`ATAs in general are expensive`
`06:49.07`	`FuriousGeorge`	`kuku5: youre missing the point. pretend im the other 99.9% of the population who doesnt know anything about telecom. when i pick up the phone in the kticken i expect to hear whats going on if my children are on the line`
`06:49.11`	`konfuzed`	`so I may have just captured our first MUD`
`06:49.18`	`konfuzed`	`Multi-Unit Dwelling`
`06:49.23`	`kuku5`	`FuriousGeorge: and you will`
`06:49.43`	`h3x`	`its actually MDU`
`06:49.46`	`kuku5`	`channel bank will make the signal`
`06:49.56`	`kuku5`	`it will like a regular pots line`
`06:50.14`	`FuriousGeorge`	`kuku5: so how many REN does an FXS on a channel bank (which afaik is meant for exactly 1 analog phone) supply?`
`06:50.20`	`h3x`	`i'd give everybody pots by default and let them optionally order voip`
`06:50.28`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i know in practice i can run 2-3 phones per fxs on my tdm`
`06:50.44`	`h3x`	`the REN on most channel banks is higher than the phone company supports`
`06:50.47`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i mean OLD phones`
`06:50.51`	`h3x`	`because you have like <100 feet of cable instead of thousands`
`06:51.03`	`konfuzed`	`in Toronto Canada the property laws write it up as Multi-Unit Dwelling`
`06:51.10`	`FuriousGeorge`	`h3x: that answers my question :)`
`06:51.17`	`konfuzed`	`unless I was upside down when reading that`
`06:51.24`	`h3x`	`hell`
`06:51.29`	`h3x`	`the IAXy supports a REN of 5.0`
`06:51.31`	`kuku5`	`whats an ren ?`
`06:51.36`	`h3x`	`most phones are 0.1 or so`
`06:51.44`	`konfuzed`	`kuku5: yeah whats a REN`
`06:51.50`	`h3x`	`ringer equivalence number`
`06:51.56`	`konfuzed`	`ooooooooooooo`
`06:51.59`	`h3x`	`it was a big deal back when you had phones with real bells in them`
`06:52.07`	`h3x`	`those cortelco type phones have a REN of 1.0`
`06:52.10`	`*** join/#asterisk shanky (n=shanky@85.137.127.142)`
`06:52.20`	`h3x`	`if you had a REN higher than the telco said you could have then the phones wouldnt ring`
`06:52.21`	`FuriousGeorge`	`h3x: i heard a new phone is .5 and a tdm supports 3. my clock radio (which is basically a handset with a hook button) is 1.5`
`06:52.24`	`h3x`	`coz they draw too much power`
`06:52.25`	`konfuzed`	`is that like what the apartment entrance buzzer system uses to call up to the apt?`
`06:52.26`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and its only 5 years old or so`
`06:52.44`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: no, that works on a power supply`
`06:52.50`	`konfuzed`	`thats another reason to not touch the current phone wiring`
`06:53.05`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and if it opens a door, a thing called a strike (coincidentally someone in here told me that)`
`06:53.15`	`h3x`	`you can use * codes to deal with that crap`
`06:53.33`	`shanky`	`good morning`
`06:53.47`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: i got a k-1700 from viking, the plan is to use it so people in an appartment can open the front door by dialing **`
`06:53.50`	`shanky`	`could you recommend me, a sip software phone for windows?`
`06:53.53`	`FuriousGeorge`	`to let people in`
`06:54.03`	`konfuzed`	`hhhmmm coool`
`06:54.22`	`kuku5`	`FuriousGeorge: ive done that`
`06:54.29`	`shanky`	`I'm used to linux, where I use kphone, sjphone or Xten, but I have no idea about windows' sip software phones`
`06:54.29`	`FuriousGeorge`	`a thing called a c-1000 sits in between and operates the "strike" i got from smarthome.com`
`06:54.31`	`h3x`	`and you press # to send them 10 jiggawatts of juice through the doormat to their feet`
`06:55.10`	`FuriousGeorge`	`kuku5: i could use your help cuz the wiring scares me. it goes into the wall, not a jack. i think its a sunday projecy`
`06:55.16`	`FuriousGeorge`	`*project`
`06:55.18`	`konfuzed`	`hehe`
`06:55.43`	`kuku5`	`where you at?`
`06:55.51`	`FuriousGeorge`	`kuku5: me?`
`06:55.56`	`kuku5`	`the project`
`06:55.58`	`FuriousGeorge`	`newark, nj`
`06:56.05`	`kuku5`	`ah cool`
`06:56.08`	`FuriousGeorge`	`u?`
`06:56.11`	`kuku5`	`chicago`
`06:56.15`	`kuku5`	`i can be there tomorrow :)`
`06:56.26`	`konfuzed`	`well my project is approaching the install date`
`06:56.27`	`FuriousGeorge`	`kuku5: sure we can split the cab fare`
`06:56.27`	`kuku5`	`is the building finished?`
`06:56.46`	`kuku5`	`like drywall and all?`
`06:57.15`	`kuku5`	`or is it still in plans`
`06:58.16`	`FuriousGeorge`	`assuming the ch. bank ren can do it, for every piece of cat5 you bring to the unit thats 4 dids, and corresponding fxs that are used`
`06:58.29`	`h3x`	`dont run voice over cat5`
`06:58.30`	`h3x`	`use cat3`
`06:58.43`	`FuriousGeorge`	`h3x: why not? if you have 4 lines?`
`06:58.49`	`h3x`	`cat3 is also 4 pairs`
`06:59.04`	`kuku5`	`FuriousGeorge: is the building finished?`
`06:59.17`	`konfuzed`	`earlier tonight, yesterday for some of you, I went with the Sales Manager to look at the building's utility closets with two volunteers designated by the housing co-op to take the sign up form around and collect initial payments for the isntallation and basic service fees`
`06:59.17`	`h3x`	`it is a hell of a lot cheaper per foot, avoids miswiring ethernet to phone, and also is designed for voice`
`06:59.25`	`FuriousGeorge`	`mine, its gonna be gutted, the wiring is no problem`
`06:59.31`	`h3x`	`the normal res phone wiring is cat1`
`06:59.45`	`kuku5`	`hm`
`07:00.00`	`kuku5`	`4x104 units = 416 did's`
`07:00.01`	`h3x`	`offices and new res usually use cat3 for voice`
`07:00.21`	`robin_sz`	`arrgghhhhhh!`
`07:00.26`	`FuriousGeorge`	`h3x: afaik one piece of cat5 is cheaper per foot than 3X cat 3, miswiring can be avoided...`
`07:00.33`	`FuriousGeorge`	`*2X`
`07:00.36`	`h3x`	`what are you talking about`
`07:00.43`	`robin_sz`	`yet another day wasted ...`
`07:00.48`	`h3x`	`dude, both cat3 and 5 are 4 pairs`
`07:00.57`	`konfuzed`	`2 colours of cable can avoid miswiring`
`07:00.57`	`h3x`	`cat3 is like 1/4th the cost of cat5`
`07:01.01`	`kuku5`	`h3x: hes confused`
`07:01.13`	`FuriousGeorge`	`h3x: honestly, thats news to me`
`07:01.21`	`h3x`	`the only difference is the gauge of wire and how often its twisted`
`07:01.25`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i see a wire with RGYB i call it cat3`
`07:01.36`	`konfuzed`	`well I would not expect more than 1 DID per apartment`
`07:01.36`	`h3x`	`that is cat1 dude`
`07:01.37`	`robin_sz`	`I really must get into the habit of putting "4 days" next to the "install asterisk on server" section of any project`
`07:01.44`	`infinity1`	`h3x: wow. great deal. i'm going to run gige on cat 3 :)`
`07:01.52`	`h3x`	`you can run 10 Base T on cat3`
`07:02.03`	`h3x`	`or token ring :)`
`07:02.10`	`*** join/#asterisk [Airwolf] (n=airwolf@attilla.nl)`
`07:02.26`	`h3x`	`cat3 color coding is the same too`
`07:02.45`	`h3x`	`R66 blocks aren't designed for the thicker cat5 wiring either`
`07:02.51`	`kuku5`	`enough free talk :)`
`07:02.55`	`h3x`	`I prefer 110 myself though`
`07:03.07`	`JonR800`	`les and oranges`
`07:03.07`	`JonR800`	`my bad`
`07:03.10`	`h3x`	`unless you need to stack wires`
`07:03.12`	`infinity1`	`h3x: in a 19 inch rack`
`07:03.20`	`kuku5`	`If its a real project let me know :)`
`07:03.28`	`h3x`	`you can mount R66B and 110 in a rack`
`07:03.31`	`*** part/#asterisk shanky (n=shanky@85.137.127.142)`
`07:03.35`	`h3x`	`chatsworth etc. make bars for it`
`07:03.36`	`konfuzed`	`I would recommend forwarding their bell number to the asterisk and then dropping all their other extra telephone company charges`
`07:03.49`	`infinity1`	`robin_sz: i'm afraid to offer * to my clients. i'm not comfortable with it. heh`
`07:03.54`	`konfuzed`	`really its a hybrid network world out there`
`07:04.19`	`h3x`	`uh, you are gonna make the customer add a $5 a month call forwarding feature to their phone`
`07:04.30`	`h3x`	`line that costs like $40 a month`
`07:04.44`	`h3x`	`and then you still have to deal with the outbound and inbound calls on your PRIs`
`07:05.57`	`konfuzed`	`and drop an 8 dollar voice mail and 12 package of crap not being used`
`07:06.22`	`h3x`	`what are you gonna use to terminate long distance calls`
`07:06.29`	`X-Rob`	`a stick`
`07:06.31`	`X-Rob`	`duh`
`07:06.39`	`X-Rob`	`or, high tech, a dead fish.`
`07:06.53`	`h3x`	`0xDEADBEEF`
`07:07.08`	`konfuzed`	`well this group wants to make all their long distance over voip`
`07:07.29`	`h3x`	`you could do local over voip too`
`07:07.29`	`h3x`	`heh`
`07:07.45`	`stoffell`	`X-Rob, you wake mup (alert on words like echo :)), I'm still trying to get bristuff on 1.2 working.. :p`
`07:07.53`	`konfuzed`	`depends what forwards to what and who calls who`
`07:07.55`	`stoffell`	`mup = me up`
`07:07.59`	`infinity1`	`anyone know when 1.2beta2 is coming?`
`07:08.21`	`stoffell`	`infinity1, last time I heard.. very soon :)`
`07:08.31`	`infinity1`	`stoffell: ooo ..i love that answer.`
`07:08.43`	`infinity1`	`stoffell: the most abused phrase in open-source`
`07:08.51`	`stoffell`	`;)`
`07:08.57`	`konfuzed`	`oh in addition to getting the $5 forward their current broadband is reduced from $45 to $25`
`07:08.59`	`h3x`	`i have this feeling that the LECs are gonna start being more reasonable and drop their prices and screw all the voip competition`
`07:09.14`	`X-Rob`	`stoffell - I want to get bristuff into openpbx.org - I've got chan_capi in w/o a problem.`
`07:09.29`	`h3x`	`konfuzed: their broadband is reduced to $0 when they find a neighbor with an open AP`
`07:09.45`	`*** join/#asterisk juice (n=juice@mo-69-69-118-228.sta.sprint-hsd.net)`
`07:10.42`	`konfuzed`	`we could then offer transfering their phone number to my providers DID service billed through me`
`07:10.46`	`stoffell`	`oh yes, indeed cool..`
`07:10.47`	`konfuzed`	`ouch that part scares me`
`07:11.02`	`konfuzed`	`ok to stretch it just a bit further`
`07:11.05`	`h3x`	`where are you at`
`07:11.32`	`X-Rob`	`Ooh, and speaking of echo - woot`
`07:11.42`	`X-Rob`	`KB1+5520 == leet`
`07:11.45`	`konfuzed`	`use locustworld meshap to power the gateways`
`07:11.47`	`FuriousGeorge`	`woot`
`07:11.50`	`FuriousGeorge`	`there it is again`
`07:11.54`	`konfuzed`	`and preseto wifi voip`
`07:12.00`	`stoffell`	`hehe`
`07:12.17`	`infinity1`	`haha. i wish i had nieghbors. being wep keys are so unbreakable, i'd have at least 4 internet connections`
`07:12.19`	`robin_sz`	`sigh ... I can see me installing the eicon server exchange instead of asterisk at this rate :(`
`07:12.21`	`konfuzed`	`plus the whole set ties in nicely to a billing provisioning system`
`07:12.41`	`konfuzed`	`all on 100 % OpenSource Technology`
`07:12.52`	`infinity1`	`konfuzed: no centrino?`
`07:13.16`	`konfuzed`	`no`
`07:13.28`	`FuriousGeorge`	`now lets say i had a neighbor more clever than i who can sniff the packets and get the wep key, etc. how do i PHYSICALLY find him`
`07:13.47`	`konfuzed`	`well the wifi-mesh gateway supports blue tooth but I think blue tooth is just wrong`
`07:14.15`	`konfuzed`	`tri-angulate his signal like the authorities do`
`07:14.16`	`infinity1`	`FuriousGeorge: being wifi only goes as far as i can throw a rock. it shouldnt be hard :)`
`07:14.16`	`FuriousGeorge`	`konfuzed: ive tried bluetooth headets for softphones and it sucked`
`07:14.47`	`h3x`	`FuRR_: Turn on filesharing on your computer, make it so he can see your drives... set up some bogus text file diary.txt and say you are this lonely 19 year old girl that wants to lose her virginity and say something about where you live`
`07:14.51`	`h3x`	`and wait for him to knock on the door`
`07:14.53`	`FuriousGeorge`	`infinity1: not in an appartment. i could have 27 neighbors`
`07:14.54`	`h3x`	`WHACK`
`07:14.58`	`kuku5`	`infinity1: how can I break one ?`
`07:15.15`	`infinity1`	`kuku5: its very easy. ask google.`
`07:15.18`	`h3x`	`that is how you find the bastard that breaks in your wireless shit`
`07:15.20`	`konfuzed`	`infinity1: I selectively choose 200mw adapters and up the power profile to get the most out of it`
`07:15.30`	`infinity1`	`kuku5: should take you a few mins with practice`
`07:15.39`	`FuriousGeorge`	`h3x: lol`
`07:16.03`	`konfuzed`	`oh hold on`
`07:16.09`	`konfuzed`	`there was a presumption`
`07:16.12`	`FuriousGeorge`	`u'd need some sort of wifi homing`
`07:16.20`	`infinity1`	`konfuzed: he's male?`
`07:16.21`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i think ive read about such software`
`07:16.22`	`konfuzed`	`the wifi is an add on to the wired network not a replacement for it`
`07:17.13`	`konfuzed`	`only a few would actually use wifi`
`07:17.35`	`konfuzed`	`in fact wifi as a back bone model chokes hardest on apartment buildings`
`07:17.41`	`infinity1`	`is anyone able to get emule running and still obtain good call quality? i tried qos, and that still doesn't work all the time!`
`07:17.53`	`h3x`	`hahahhahaha`
`07:17.59`	`h3x`	`quit downloading so many mp3s at once`
`07:18.14`	`infinity1`	`h3x: 0 mp3s. all porn! ..j/k :)`
`07:18.26`	`h3x`	`uhhhh`
`07:18.31`	`konfuzed`	`I can grab all emule traffic and bind it to one 4MB DSL model leaving all the other traffic for the other modems`
`07:18.36`	`h3x`	`why do you wanna talk to people on the phone while you are downloading porn`
`07:18.42`	`h3x`	`(i set you up for this one)... :)`
`07:18.53`	`adelas`	`why do u do that?`
`07:18.56`	`adelas`	`omg wat a stupid question`
`07:18.58`	`adelas`	`haha`
`07:19.05`	`infinity1`	`h3x: hmmm ..i'm downloading it . not watching it ...:)`
`07:19.15`	`infinity1`	`h3x: not streaming either. :P`
`07:19.16`	`adelas`	`u talk on phone, u dowonload, and u watch ur previously download`
`07:19.25`	`infinity1`	`h3x: that was an easy corner to get out of. heh`
`07:19.26`	`adelas`	`thats what you do.`
`07:19.34`	`h3x`	`:P`
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`07:20.20`	`infinity1`	`seriously though, it would be nice to get p2p working so voip would still run.`
`07:20.54`	`konfuzed`	`correct me if I am wrong but I still havent found proof that more than 2 pairs of a CAT 5 cable are used regardless of speed rating or dunplexing`
`07:21.04`	`konfuzed`	`is that still the case or did I miss something`
`07:21.22`	`infinity1`	`konfuzed: what do you mean?`
`07:21.26`	`h3x`	`gigE uses 4 pairs`
`07:21.43`	`infinity1`	`h3x: agreed. 100mbit is 2 pair`
`07:21.49`	`konfuzed`	`I thought so`
`07:22.04`	`konfuzed`	`was considering to 100Mbit on same cable`
`07:22.06`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`07:22.06`	`infinity1`	`konfuzed: wifi is 1/2 pair`
`07:22.09`	`infinity1`	`:)`
`07:22.27`	`konfuzed`	`was considering two 100Mbit on same cable`
`07:22.44`	`infinity1`	`konfuzed: works. not recommneded. but i do it all the time.`
`07:22.51`	`konfuzed`	`but then I could not do gige`
`07:22.54`	`h3x`	`4 port 10/100 switch is $10`
`07:23.02`	`konfuzed`	`I do it quite often enough`
`07:23.04`	`infinity1`	`konfuzed: i can't afford gig switch.`
`07:23.16`	`konfuzed`	`me neither`
`07:23.29`	`infinity1`	`h3x: i got a 32 port at fry's once for $10 ..i boought TWO of em :)`
`07:23.58`	`h3x`	`the one you have to send in a rebate form within 32 seconds of leaving the store or its $900 ?`
`07:24.05`	`X-Rob`	`konfuzed - Gigabit ethernet uses all 4 pairs. 10/100baseT uses 2 pairs.`
`07:24.05`	`konfuzed`	`actually two 100mbit in one wire converting over to one 1gig is quite an upgrade for putting on new cable heads`
`07:24.12`	`infinity1`	`h3x: nope! ..no rebate. it was crazy`
`07:24.39`	`infinity1`	`h3x: i sold one to a client and still have one. working for both of us for a year now.`
`07:24.46`	`h3x`	`i buy all my chinese shit from the place fry's buys their shit from`
`07:24.52`	`infinity1`	`amazing find ..i thought.`
`07:25.02`	`h3x`	`sometimes they sell things far below cost to get people in the store`
`07:25.06`	`infinity1`	`h3x: yea. frys does have a lot of shit`
`07:25.11`	`h3x`	`but they still suck ass`
`07:25.16`	`infinity1`	`h3x: lol`
`07:25.27`	`h3x`	`im gonna open a new store across the street called "Onion Rings"`
`07:25.30`	`h3x`	`and the slogan is gonna be`
`07:25.39`	`h3x`	`"everybody knows Onion Rings is better than Fries"`
`07:25.42`	`bsdfreak`	`heh`
`07:25.43`	`h3x`	`s/is/are/`
`07:25.44`	`infinity1`	`h3x: i ususllay use them to just rent equiptment :)`
`07:25.45`	`bsdfreak`	`Enemy boat spotted?`
`07:26.21`	`infinity1`	`h3x: i'm going to open one called "curly frys" across from yours :)`
`07:26.22`	`h3x`	`id be on a better side of the street, they are on the wrong side to enter from the freeway`
`07:26.28`	`h3x`	`hah`
`07:26.34`	`h3x`	`potato cakes`
`07:26.46`	`infinity1`	`h3x: you must live in cali ?`
`07:26.50`	`h3x`	`las vegas`
`07:26.59`	`h3x`	`they actually put it on the strip`
`07:27.00`	`infinity1`	`ahh ..i hear the frys is relatively new there`
`07:27.03`	`h3x`	`which is a stupid place to put it`
`07:27.12`	`h3x`	`about 2 years i think, maybe 3`
`07:27.24`	`infinity1`	`i have a good frind lives in summerset (i think its called)`
`07:27.29`	`h3x`	`summerlin`
`07:27.34`	`infinity1`	`yea. thats it :)`
`07:27.45`	`h3x`	`summerlin sucks ass`
`07:27.47`	`infinity1`	`i visit him every once in awhile. fuck the strip`
`07:28.03`	`h3x`	`you have to pay like triple association dues in some parts of it`
`07:28.04`	`infinity1`	`h3x: does it? i dunno whats what really there.`
`07:28.11`	`infinity1`	`h3x: i just know where the ho's at :)`
`07:28.17`	`konfuzed`	`perhaps someone can help me unkonfuze something ...............`
`07:28.20`	`infinity1`	`h3x: ouch`
`07:28.21`	`h3x`	`its expensive as hell`
`07:28.41`	`h3x`	`basically nothings under a million in summerlin now`
`07:28.49`	`infinity1`	`oh. he has a condo i think`
`07:28.55`	`h3x`	`coz you can't buy something the size of an apartment for less than 350k`
`07:28.58`	`h3x`	`anywhere else`
`07:29.21`	`h3x`	`the houses are gonna go down in value though`
`07:29.33`	`infinity1`	`h3x: you grow up there?`
`07:29.43`	`h3x`	`the avg time a house is on the market here has doubled in the last 6 months`
`07:29.48`	`h3x`	`hell no, nebraska`
`07:29.53`	`h3x`	`but ive been here for 7 years`
`07:29.56`	`konfuzed`	`if this set up is in place client<iax>pbx<iax>co<sip>DID and for the sake of argument working happily for the client device`
`07:30.01`	`infinity1`	`h3x: what are you there for`
`07:30.03`	`h3x`	`this place sucks so bad now`
`07:30.03`	`konfuzed`	`will that essentially prevent sip phones from working with that DID on the lan side of the *PBX ?`
`07:30.27`	`h3x`	`well, because anywhere else i could get in the same building as a bunch of other carriers like LA, NY, Chicago, etc. sucks more`
`07:31.22`	`infinity1`	`so yer there for the network connectivity`
`07:31.35`	`h3x`	`i originally moved out here coz i got a job working on porn sites`
`07:31.55`	`h3x`	`that whole industry is gone now`
`07:32.01`	`FuriousGeorge`	`it says to try # to put call one on hold.... http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+tips+zap+transfer`
`07:32.21`	`h3x`	`yeah i own a small data center`
`07:32.38`	`konfuzed`	`that quite the transition`
`07:32.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`that doesnt make sense, what if you are entering "your password, then press #"`
`07:32.56`	`Netgeeks`	`heh, Vegas cost of living isn't even in the top 10 cities in the US`
`07:32.58`	`h3x`	`hehe maybe i should start a new site, i have gobs of bandwidth`
`07:33.22`	`h3x`	`maybe not but its in the top 15`
`07:33.34`	`h3x`	`well lets put it this way`
`07:33.38`	`h3x`	`its changed the fastest of anywhere`
`07:33.47`	`h3x`	`when i moved out here the median house price was $125k`
`07:33.54`	`h3x`	`now its $400k`
`07:34.06`	`Netgeeks`	`yeah, my sister and brother in law moved there about 15 years ago, bought a house just outside of town for 150k`
`07:34.15`	`Netgeeks`	`they sold it this summer for 950k`
`07:34.18`	`h3x`	`haha`
`07:34.24`	`argos73`	`heh - porn shots of voip phones... "see your phone in all it's naked glory"`
`07:34.26`	`Netgeeks`	`and moved to Parumph`
`07:34.27`	`infinity1`	`fuuuck`
`07:34.36`	`h3x`	`pahrump is expensive too`
`07:34.40`	`h3x`	`and boulder city`
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`07:34.58`	`h3x`	`they're runnin out of space here`
`07:35.05`	`h3x`	`crime has gone up considerably`
`07:35.12`	`h3x`	`my car got broken into 3 times in the past 10 months`
`07:35.17`	`h3x`	`at 3 diff locations`
`07:35.44`	`infinity1`	`my friend got a bowling ball through his window`
`07:35.46`	`infinity1`	`in summerlin`
`07:35.49`	`h3x`	`hhahaha`
`07:35.55`	`infinity1`	`and they left it in the car`
`07:35.55`	`h3x`	`furthermore`
`07:35.56`	`infinity1`	`hahah`
`07:36.01`	`h3x`	`theres only crooked ways to get rich in vegas`
`07:36.08`	`argos73`	`h3x - what's the weather like around christmas in LV? thinking of taking my slot-addicted wife there as a surprise..`
`07:36.18`	`h3x`	`so theres more crooks in summerlin, green valley, rhodes ranch, etc. than anywhere else`
`07:36.37`	`h3x`	`argos73: shorts during the day, long pants at night`
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`07:36.46`	`argos73`	`h3x - cool - tnx`
`07:36.59`	`h3x`	`it usually dosent get any lower than 55 degrees or so`
`07:37.06`	`Netgeeks`	`I like vegas for one good reason... you can buy ANYTHING you could ever want there`
`07:37.12`	`argos73`	`heh - it's 37 here... :)`
`07:37.25`	`h3x`	`but i donno, our weather has been whack the last couple years. it snowed a couple times last year`
`07:37.46`	`h3x`	`Netgeeks: Not really, we have shitty electronics stores`
`07:37.59`	`h3x`	`shitty book stores`
`07:38.01`	`Netgeeks`	`hehe, I wasn't referring to electronics...`
`07:38.08`	`h3x`	`You mean your wife can buy anything here`
`07:38.14`	`Netgeeks`	`I was thinking more of the exotic stuff not easily obtainable in most places`
`07:38.24`	`h3x`	`like?`
`07:38.42`	`h3x`	`we have hummer and aston martin dealerships? :)`
`07:39.00`	`Netgeeks`	`heh... think more fleshy...`
`07:39.04`	`orlok`	`high quality drugs?`
`07:39.15`	`orlok`	`buffalo?`
`07:39.15`	`h3x`	`fleshy? well whores aren't legal in this county :)`
`07:39.31`	`Netgeeks`	`alot of stuff not legal in vegas that still gets sold`
`07:39.42`	`argos73`	`nah - he's thinking "pictures with the half-naked Elvis impersonator" :`
`07:39.47`	`argos73`	`:)`
`07:39.49`	`Netgeeks`	`BINGO!`
`07:40.20`	`h3x`	`this place was sooo much better before`
`07:40.32`	`h3x`	`casinos just dont comp much shit anymore`
`07:40.39`	`h3x`	`the food costs what it does anywhere else`
`07:41.05`	`h3x`	`all the casinos on the strip except like 3 of them are owned by ONE SINGLE COMPANY`
`07:41.16`	`h3x`	`so they could give a fuck less if you go next door or not`
`07:41.26`	`orlok`	`heh`
`07:41.28`	`h3x`	`MGM/Mirage bought em all`
`07:41.31`	`orlok`	`i went to circus circus`
`07:41.35`	`orlok`	`and ceasers palace`
`07:42.24`	`h3x`	`well now there is the Wynn resort`
`07:42.32`	`argos73`	`my in-laws were there about two weeks ago - MIL hated it - "too busy and lighty", whatever the hell "lighty" means. :)`
`07:42.37`	`h3x`	`which gets mysterious bomb threats all the time`
`07:42.39`	`h3x`	`gee i wonder why`
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`07:43.09`	`h3x`	`she meant lit like everybodys on drugs!`
`07:43.16`	`puzzled`	`morning`
`07:43.47`	`h3x`	`when i moved here there was 1.2 million, now theres 2 mil`
`07:43.57`	`h3x`	`by 2009 we are supposed to have 4 million fuckin people`
`07:44.03`	`h3x`	`i wonder how the hell thats supposed to happen`
`07:44.18`	`argos73`	`lots of desert to expand into...`
`07:44.30`	`h3x`	`dude, we are surrounded by mountains`
`07:44.40`	`h3x`	`theres only two directions to expand into`
`07:44.43`	`h3x`	`and they arent very big`
`07:45.02`	`argos73`	`three directions - you forgot "up"`
`07:45.06`	`h3x`	`unfortunately we used to build everything on the horizontal coz everybody didnt think we'd ahve this problem`
`07:45.26`	`h3x`	`there was like 3 hirise apartment buildings before`
`07:45.33`	`h3x`	`now theres like 37 hirise projects`
`07:45.39`	`konfuzed`	`the MOB`
`07:45.46`	`konfuzed`	`woops`
`07:45.51`	`konfuzed`	`deja vu`
`07:45.56`	`wunderkin`	`that was supposted to be a secret`
`07:46.14`	`wunderkin`	`ur gunna get whacked now`
`07:46.22`	`argos73`	`was it the same cat?`
`07:47.26`	`argos73`	`anywho, off to bed... cya`
`07:47.54`	`konfuzed`	`h3x: get in on those new hirises man`
`07:48.10`	`konfuzed`	`a wire service has a way of guaranteeing cash flow`
`07:48.48`	`konfuzed`	`where's my chocolate almonds`
`07:51.29`	`konfuzed`	`h3x: have you got President's Choice Foods ??????`
`07:51.48`	`konfuzed`	`didnt think so`
`07:52.03`	`konfuzed`	`have you got any real beer`
`07:52.05`	`mutilator`	`hmmm`
`07:52.08`	`konfuzed`	`didnt think so`
`07:52.10`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`07:54.09`	`konfuzed`	`everythig is for sale in cali but you cant buy a real beer`
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`07:58.24`	`robin_sz`	`OK, so I have got the Eicon card installed and running the CAPI drivers for it ..`
`07:58.49`	`robin_sz`	`but ... asterisk still fails dismally to load the chan_capi.so stuff`
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`08:01.21`	`robin_sz`	`wahey!`
`08:02.07`	`robin_sz`	`running the eicon Divas server stuff from eicon and the current chan_capi stuff seems to have actually loaded ...`
`08:02.15`	`robin_sz`	`bloody suprising but stilll ...`
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`08:05.26`	`psycodad`	`Moinmoin`
`08:10.45`	`stoffell`	`robin_sz, using the most recent versions now?`
`08:15.56`	`robin_sz`	`stoffell, installed the .deb from eicon`
`08:16.16`	`robin_sz`	`seems to provide a CAPI interface ...`
`08:16.35`	`stoffell`	`hm, okay.. and asterisk is version.. 1.2b1 ?`
`08:16.44`	`robin_sz`	`trying to go back to the old debian version 1.03 now`
`08:17.19`	`robin_sz`	`see if that works ...`
`08:18.41`	`stoffell`	`oh`
`08:19.19`	`mazzanet`	`roar`
`08:20.04`	`robin_sz`	`stoffell, the current version of asterisk was somehow screwed, or at least not looking in /etc/asterisk for its config files .. I gave up trying to find where it was actually looking`
`08:20.14`	`RoyK`	`morning`
`08:20.27`	`robin_sz`	`..`
`08:20.31`	`stoffell`	`mornin'`
`08:20.40`	`stoffell`	`ouch, that's weird`
`08:22.51`	`mazzanet`	`this dialplan is pissing me off`
`08:26.20`	`mazzanet`	`well`
`08:26.24`	`mazzanet`	`festival is pissing me off`
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`08:29.44`	`jaxkz`	`heya.`
`08:29.52`	`jaxkz`	`Do you need to be root in order to install asterisk?`
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`08:30.34`	`psycodad`	`jaxkz: if installing to the usual places, yes`
`08:31.08`	`mazzanet`	`speaking of that`
`08:31.24`	`jaxkz`	`Is it possible to install in non-standard places?`
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`08:31.25`	`mazzanet`	`do i have to be root/use sudo to connect to the asterisk server (via cli)?`
`08:31.34`	`dos000`	`anyone used asterisk/ser livecd here ?`
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`08:53.56`	`robin_sz`	`ok ... so, what does ...No channel type registered for 'CAPI'`
`08:53.56`	`robin_sz`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:55.20`	`robin_sz`	`I have something like .. exten=>_0.,2,Dial(CAPI/@${CANAL}:B${EXTEN}\|17)`
`08:56.19`	`psycodad`	`jaxkz: yes and no, AFAIK you need to have some headers installed at the usual places, then you might install to your $HOME or so. However building it the first time (without having * installed before) failed for me due to lacking header and includes`
`08:56.40`	`mazzanet`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:56.50`	`pooh_`	`robin_sz: did you load the capi modules ?`
`08:56.51`	`mazzanet`	`${CALLERIDNUM} is lying`
`08:57.52`	`robin_sz`	`pooh_, I believe so ... hmmm .. actually, it stops on "parsing capi.conf"`
`08:58.07`	`pooh_`	`show modules`
`08:58.20`	`pooh_`	`check /var/log/asterisk/messages`
`08:58.30`	`pooh_`	`set verbose 20`
`08:59.37`	`robin_sz`	`seems to hang parisng capi.conf`
`08:59.46`	`robin_sz`	`wont accept commands on the command line ...`
`08:59.49`	`robin_sz`	`doh!`
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`09:00.50`	`mazzanet`	`ok`
`09:01.01`	`mazzanet`	`asterisk received incoming calls from the pstn via a sip server`
`09:01.04`	`ful\|work`	`hey`
`09:01.11`	`mazzanet`	`the sip server is passing asterisk the caller id number`
`09:01.37`	`mazzanet`	`but ${CALLERIDNUM} contains the pstn number`
`09:01.42`	`mazzanet`	`rather than the caller number`
`09:01.51`	`mazzanet`	`s/pstn/server/`
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`09:04.46`	`RoyK`	`mazza[W]: if so, that's the SIP server lying......`
`09:05.13`	`mazzanet`	`the sip server has the caller id in the header under From:`
`09:07.56`	`jaxkz`	`So, anyone managed to get the TDMoE working?`
`09:08.39`	`jaxkz`	`psycodad: thanks for the info. I know the admin of the machine, so he can apt-get the headers for me`
`09:10.42`	`psycodad`	`jaxkz: just make sure you have ABSOLUTELY the same version of headers/includes and asterisk you try to build.... I lost days for installing the .deb headers and includes and building 1.0_stable.... ended up installing all to default locations and since then I can build resp. install to any place`
`09:10.52`	`RoyK`	`I REALLY REALLY HATE EXCHANGE`
`09:11.56`	`mazzanet`	`RoyK: the proper caller id number is registered in the CDR too`
`09:12.10`	`mazzanet`	`but just not ${CALLERIDNUM}`
`09:13.35`	`RoyK`	`what does ${CALLERID} contain?`
`09:13.56`	`RoyK`	`mazzanet: head or 1.0?`
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`09:14.20`	`mazzanet`	`the pstn number of the asterisk box`
`09:14.27`	`mazzanet`	`ie. the number people are dialing`
`09:14.40`	`mazzanet`	`1.2`
`09:14.43`	`RoyK`	`both ${CALLERID} and ${CALLERIDNUM}?`
`09:14.50`	`RoyK`	`try latest cvs`
`09:14.59`	`mazzanet`	`both`
`09:16.02`	`psycodad`	`mazzanet: which version you use ? I had to switch using ${DNID} to get the dialed number from CAPI with 1.01 or so (the one that comes with SuSE 9.2) since 1.09 it works thru CALLERIDNUM properly`
`09:16.29`	`psycodad`	`mazzanet: sorry..concerning versin, so my guess does not apply`
`09:18.46`	`mazzanet`	`DNID is the same`
`09:19.29`	`paxr0`	`anybody can suggest how not accept, incomming calls from PSTN? , recommend leav blanc [incomming] or another way?`
`09:20.35`	`psycodad`	`mazzanet: I had many frustrating experiences where DNID =! CALLERIDNUM especially with CAPI (older chan_capi) since using 0.6 all is fine`
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`09:34.53`	`robin_sz`	`stoffell, you about?`
`09:35.09`	`CoderCR`	`how is Asterisk on FreeBSD at the moment?`
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`09:37.54`	`CoderCR`	`Is asterisk stable on FreeBSD with T1 hardware?`
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`09:41.31`	`stoffell`	`wakes up`
`09:43.25`	`stoffell`	`back to idle mode`
`09:43.30`	`stoffell`	`:p`
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`09:53.25`	`stoffell`	`robin_sz, if u want i can send you the instructions I kept for installing a fritz card, mostly same cause it's capi also`
`09:59.07`	`robin_sz`	`stoffell, I think I have it installed OK now ...`
`09:59.25`	`robin_sz`	`whats confusing me is how to get someting to dial out on it!!`
`10:00.01`	`stoffell`	`that you should find on voip-info.org -> extensions.conf`
`10:00.11`	`robin_sz`	`'k`
`10:00.25`	`robin_sz`	`I presujmem I need to do some sort of chanisavail stuff`
`10:00.39`	`stoffell`	`i only use dial/zap/g1 cause i don't have any capi anymore`
`10:00.50`	`stoffell`	`i guess the capi driver handles that..`
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`10:05.41`	`lehel`	`hello`
`10:06.01`	`stoffell`	`'llo`
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`10:06.52`	`fourcheeze`	`What is the panel's view on the O'Reilly Asterisk book?`
`10:07.00`	`lehel`	`in which conf do i change the language? [i changed already everywhere.. no change]`
`10:07.05`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`quite nice and useful`
`10:07.18`	`fourcheeze`	`Cool, I see they have a deal on ATM`
`10:07.39`	`fourcheeze`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:07.39`	`fourcheeze`	`<font size="3">Buy Together Today: £39.90</font>`
`10:07.39`	`fourcheeze`	`<font size="3"> </font>`
`10:07.42`	`fourcheeze`	`ugh`
`10:07.49`	`fourcheeze`	`silly gaim`
`10:07.51`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`lehel, either SetLanguage in the dialplan or set language= in the channel configuration (e.g: sip.conf)`
`10:08.57`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`I don't know of any more global setting`
`10:09.36`	`lehel`	`no sip, just iax yet.. i changed in iaxprov.conf`
`10:09.43`	`lehel`	`nowhere any SetLanguage`
`10:10.35`	`lehel`	`so in oss and alsa .conf`
`10:13.34`	`Delvar`	`ohhh Wildcard TDM2400P :)`
`10:17.21`	`RoyK`	`has anyone managed to combine spandsp/rxfax with ocr?`
`10:18.05`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`lehel, in sip.conf and in iax.conf, and also in zapata.conf`
`10:18.30`	`robin_sz`	`sigh ... I see nothing in voip-info.org extensions.conf relating to CAPI ...`
`10:19.59`	`stoffell`	`robin_sz exten => s,1,Dial(CAPI/12345678:B${EXTEN},30)`
`10:20.36`	`stoffell`	`good example: or something like this maybe: exten => 123,1,Dial(CAPI/12345678,30)`
`10:22.03`	`robin_sz`	`for outgoing calls to the world??`
`10:22.07`	`stoffell`	`yep`
`10:23.15`	`robin_sz`	`12345678 is a migic code or something?? where did you get that?`
`10:26.21`	`robin_sz`	`hmmm -- didn't find capi device for interface '12345678:B00041746'`
`10:27.25`	`stoffell`	`nono, replace 1234.. with the nr you want to dial`
`10:27.48`	`stoffell`	`or at least, that's how zap works`
`10:28.29`	`robin_sz`	`eh?`
`10:28.52`	`robin_sz`	`but ... that makes no sense ....`
`10:29.09`	`robin_sz`	`the number I want to dial could bne any phone number in the world`
`10:29.36`	`stoffell`	`indeed, but i suggest this to only test if the outgoing calls work at all`
`10:29.44`	`robin_sz`	`00041746 was the dialed number ... ahh.`
`10:30.16`	`robin_sz`	`is this stuf documented anywhere?`
`10:30.37`	`stoffell`	`voip-info.org, that's where I got it all from`
`10:30.50`	`stoffell`	`and on asteriskdocs.org you can find a great book`
`10:30.58`	`robin_sz`	`well, nothing at all about CAPI on the extensions.conf page`
`10:31.14`	`robin_sz`	`I guess you need to know where to look`
`10:31.58`	`robin_sz`	`hmmm ... this doesnt look right ...`
`10:33.20`	`robin_sz`	`surely its Dial(CAPI/<channel ID>:B${EXTEN})`
`10:33.40`	`robin_sz`	`ie you specify which outgoing CAPI channel you wish to use ..??`
`10:34.46`	`stoffell`	`try http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+CAPI+Channels`
`10:34.54`	`stoffell`	`bottom has some url's`
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`10:41.19`	`astcryz`	`rtp.c:509 ast_rtp_read: Unknown RTP codec 96 received`
`10:41.25`	`astcryz`	`anyone know why i get that?`
`10:41.39`	`astcryz`	`its when i try to press "1" to go to menu 1 in an IVR menu?`
`10:41.57`	`pooh_`	`dtmf settings ?`
`10:42.17`	`astcryz`	`have tried every single dtmf mode`
`10:42.37`	`pooh_`	`RFC2833 too?`
`10:42.57`	`astcryz`	`yes.. :S`
`10:43.21`	`pooh_`	`sip.conf right ?`
`10:43.38`	`astcryz`	`correct..`
`10:43.56`	`pooh_`	`dunno, but sounds like dtmf problem`
`10:43.57`	`astcryz`	`i cant figure out how i can fix this..`
`10:44.10`	`pooh_`	`it's your first keypress in a menu right ?`
`10:44.15`	`astcryz`	`yes`
`10:44.27`	`pooh_`	`what kind of device ?`
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`10:44.55`	`pooh_`	`checked device dtmf settings with sip.conf settings ?`
`10:45.05`	`astcryz`	`i call from the PSTN network`
`10:45.13`	`astcryz`	`into the asterisk VIA sip`
`10:47.41`	`astcryz`	`pooh_: no idea? :(`
`10:49.06`	`jaxkz`	`does any know if asterisk supports TDMoIP?`
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`10:57.37`	`magister1`	`how do i sole a 408 time-out?`
`10:58.06`	`magister1`	`how do i solve a 408 time-out?`
`10:58.22`	`fourcheeze`	`magister1: context?`
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`10:58.51`	`magister1`	`i am using asterisk from cvs`
`10:59.12`	`magister1`	`as soft phone i use x-ten-lite`
`10:59.22`	`skeffling`	`Hi, when using .call files to call internal sip extensions - is there a way for * to check if the other party if available before creating the call?`
`11:00.37`	`magister1`	`when starting asterisk skinny cannot resolve the ip address`
`11:01.12`	`magister1`	`?`
`11:01.25`	`lenne_dk`	`Is your dns too slow?`
`11:01.47`	`fourcheeze`	`magister1: do you mean resolve the address from the domain?`
`11:01.49`	`magister1`	`i don't think so`
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`11:02.26`	`magister1`	`it listens on eth1 connections are made on eth0`
`11:02.36`	`robbie2`	`does asterisk support a central phone book i can hoop my sip phone into ?`
`11:02.40`	`robbie2`	`hook even`
`11:02.58`	`lenne_dk`	`Why no dns on eth0?`
`11:03.10`	`ManxPower`	`robbie2, yes and no.`
`11:03.20`	`robbie2`	`ManxPower: can you expand on that please`
`11:03.26`	`magister1`	`because this is the the dhcp client`
`11:03.36`	`robbie2`	`my sipura phone has a built in directory`
`11:03.42`	`robbie2`	`but i have to manualy filll it in`
`11:03.50`	`ManxPower`	`Asterisk does not. Some SIP phones support external/central directories using a variety of methods, XML, boot files, etc`
`11:04.11`	`robbie2`	`ManxPower: so there is no open standard for them to all use the same directory ??`
`11:04.12`	`magister1`	`i know that wanadoo uses ldap`
`11:04.23`	`magister1`	`how i do not know`
`11:04.24`	`ManxPower`	`robbie2, not that I am aware of.`
`11:04.26`	`robbie2`	`hmm`
`11:04.32`	`robbie2`	`well we have an ldap directory`
`11:05.05`	`lenne_dk`	`Magister1, what if you restart the dns after eth0 has gotten its adress?`
`11:05.15`	`magister1`	`perhaps there is a way to authenticate users against ldap`
`11:05.50`	`magister1`	`sip is not yet entered in the dns`
`11:06.18`	`lenne_dk`	`Well, enter it then :-)`
`11:06.33`	`magister1`	`besides it is a connection between 2 pc with a fixed ip address`
`11:06.47`	`RoyK`	`cool. rxfax, convert to pdf, ocr it, mail it....`
`11:07.22`	`X-Rob`	`RoyK - bloody obvious, when you think about it, wasn't it 8)`
`11:07.26`	`lenne_dk`	`Skeffling, it's hard to tell if an extension is busy, because an extension might ring on several phones or be a queue.`
`11:09.01`	`skeffling`	`lenne_dk, yes I though that. We're all using SNOM phones, so I'm looking to see if there is a way to test if it's free with Hints or something - I'm trying to make a 'ringback' feature - so if you call internally and they are engaged, * will wait until the other party is free and then make the call for you. (I tried the extensions.conf example ont he wiki, but can't get it to work)`
`11:09.38`	`magister1`	`where are the logfiles in asterisk so i can see if both machines are logged in`
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`11:09.56`	`psycodad`	`can somebody explain what the difference is for the new setting in capi.conf: isdnmode= ? I have BRI channel from my ascom pbx which used to work under old chan_capi but now behaves strangely and I am not sure if I have to put did or msn there`
`11:10.08`	`mazzanet`	`anyone here use festival?`
`11:10.11`	`lenne_dk`	`Perhaps the calling ext could set a flag, which the called could check at hangup?`
`11:10.14`	`X-Rob`	`skeffling - you can use the manager command ExtensionState`
`11:10.34`	`skeffling`	`X-Rob, thanks, I'll look in to that...`
`11:10.59`	`psycodad`	`mazzanet: yes me, the only thing that never mayed me cry yet ;-)`
`11:11.15`	`mazzanet`	`heh`
`11:11.18`	`mazzanet`	`it's making me cry`
`11:11.21`	`psycodad`	`s/mayed/made/`
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`11:11.53`	`psycodad`	`mazzanet: are you on debian ? There it need the acl set to localhost.localdomain else it will refuse connections from *`
`11:12.01`	`mazzanet`	`not in that sense`
`11:12.10`	`mazzanet`	`it's working fine`
`11:12.16`	`mazzanet`	`i just want to slow the bastard down`
`11:12.23`	`mazzanet`	`he's talking too damn fast`
`11:12.46`	`lenne_dk`	`Can I force a registration not to expire? I'm using a fritz!box connected via lan, but it won't register regularly; it thinks the internet is down because I'm not using the DSL port`
`11:13.40`	`psycodad`	`strange, I feel more like the guy is talking to slow when converting on the fly...maybe a P5-300 is too slow for a PBX anyway ;-/`
`11:14.27`	`ManxPower`	`lenne_dk, you don't need to register if the device is on a static IP address`
`11:15.01`	`lenne_dk`	`How would I enter that in sip.conf?`
`11:15.09`	`ManxPower`	`host=1.2.3.4`
`11:15.18`	`ManxPower`	`instead of host=dynamic.`
`11:15.42`	`ManxPower`	`You must tell the device to not register as well or it will cause asterisk to print errors on the console`
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`11:17.08`	`lenne_dk`	`Oct 27 13:16:25 WARNING[1440]: chan_sip.c:614 __sip_xmit: sip_xmit of 0x8113c1c (len 499) to 192.168 .5.50 returned -1: Can't assign requested address`
`11:17.08`	`lenne_dk`	`Oct 27 13:16:26 WARNING[1440]: chan_sip.c:614 __sip_xmit: sip_xmit of 0x8113c1c (len 499) to 192.168 .5.50 returned -1: Can't assign requested address`
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`11:17.27`	`AgentHunt`	`hello al`
`11:17.28`	`AgentHunt`	`all`
`11:17.29`	`psycodad`	`anybody using * 1.09 and chan_capi 0.6 ? I am getting the feeling that combo is much more instable than 1.00 with chan_capi 0.35`
`11:17.36`	`AgentHunt`	`yup`
`11:17.41`	`AgentHunt`	`listne`
`11:17.43`	`AgentHunt`	`listen`
`11:17.44`	`ManxPower`	`lenne_dk, I've not sen that error before except when you mess up stuff in [general]`
`11:18.08`	`AgentHunt`	`i am facing problems compiling zaptel for Asterisk 1.0.9`
`11:18.45`	`AgentHunt`	`hell lot of errors stating dereferencing pointer to incomplete type...`
`11:18.58`	`AgentHunt`	`in the zaptel.c`
`11:19.09`	`psycodad`	`am wondering if I should give the 1.2x a shot, if somebody could support me emotionally to throw away the first working * that I built myself and which didn't refuse to start at all with zap and capi modules.. ;-)`
`11:19.18`	`psycodad`	`AgentHunt: Have headers and includes installed ?`
`11:19.32`	`lenne_dk`	`Perhaps I should dial(SIP/fon1@192.168.5.50) instead of dial(SIP/fon1)`
`11:19.41`	`mazzanet`	`psycodad: any ideas?`
`11:20.28`	`RoyK`	`X-Rob: bugger off`
`11:20.31`	`AgentHunt`	`i didnt get you psycodad,....`
`11:20.52`	`AgentHunt`	`could you be some more clear as to what you mean includes and headers`
`11:20.56`	`AgentHunt`	`please`
`11:21.50`	`AgentHunt`	`psycodad are you there`
`11:22.46`	`X-Rob`	`RoyK - 8)`
`11:22.58`	`psycodad`	`mazzanet: dunno, did you look up festivals manual, i am just browsing it`
`11:23.23`	`psycodad`	`AgentHunt: yup, but I have a job to do meanwhile ;-)`
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`11:26.35`	`lenne_dk`	`ManxPower: I can call the box fine now at dial(SIP/fon1@192.168.5.50), but the phone needs to be registered to dial out`
`11:27.13`	`psycodad`	`AgentHunt: I am not sure yet if Zap need the full kernel sources or just the headers...`
`11:28.20`	`psycodad`	`I've just switched to linux/debian a few days ago, before I was a *BSD evangelist ;-) (still unsure if it was clever move, but definitely asterisk-inspired ;-))`
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`11:31.51`	`power1`	`Is there any1 available to help me install a patch?`
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`11:36.37`	`RoyK`	`~disclaimer`
`11:36.39`	`jbot`	`I disclaim all of you!, or "fortune -m 'Void where'"`
`11:37.32`	`RoyK`	`jbot: no, disclaimer is the terms and conditions are as follows, by agreeing to contribute to asterisk you are disclaiming any rights you may or may ever have to own any of your own code. you also must relinguish your first born male child to digium and at least 100 liters of blood per year. please be advised that these terms are non-reversable and are binding forever`
`11:37.33`	`jbot`	`RoyK: okay`
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`11:44.42`	`lehel`	`tzafrir_laptop if i don't have zap channels i can't have other language? [however i have no zap chan.. i set in zapata.conf the language.. still no change]`
`11:48.26`	`jaxkz`	`Can asterisk be compiled on the minix operating system?`
`11:49.49`	`RoyK`	`jaxkz: hwhath?`
`11:50.00`	`RoyK`	`jaxkz: why on earth would you run minix in 2005?`
`11:50.22`	`jaxkz`	`embedded systems?`
`11:50.28`	`jontow`	`ok, i can understand running minix in 2005`
`11:50.30`	`jontow`	`i am a big fan of minix`
`11:50.52`	`jontow`	`HOWEVER: minix is not multithreaded, it lacks a proper (BSD-compatible) TCP/IP stack (ie. it uses a form of SysV streams), and it has no select()`
`11:51.02`	`jontow`	`there is no chance in hell you will get asterisk running on Minix`
`11:51.07`	`RoyK`	`jaxkz: use linux`
`11:51.14`	`jontow`	`use NetBSD for embedded systems, or linux.`
`11:51.17`	`RoyK`	`jaxkz: linux can be stripped down quite a lot`
`11:51.21`	`jaxkz`	`jontow: based on what assumption`
`11:51.29`	`jontow`	`look..`
`11:51.30`	`RoyK`	`jontow HOWEVER: minix is not multithreaded, it lacks a proper (BSD-compatible) TCP/IP stack (ie. it uses a form of SysV streams), and it has no select()`
`11:51.36`	`jaxkz`	`ah sorry, didn't see it`
`11:51.42`	`jontow`	`if you need something as lightweight as minix, the hardware won't run asterisk anyway.`
`11:51.44`	`jaxkz`	`it's posix compliant though`
`11:51.52`	`jontow`	`that doesn't matter when its a highly networked application`
`11:52.00`	`RoyK`	`jaxkz: use linux`
`11:52.03`	`jaxkz`	`true`
`11:52.16`	`jontow`	`have you actually looked at the API provided by the Minix TCP/IP stack?`
`11:52.23`	`RoyK`	`jaxkz: what sort of system are you planning to run this?`
`11:52.38`	`jontow`	`if not; amuse yourself.. 'man ip ; man inet' i believe will get you enough to start :)`
`11:52.51`	`jaxkz`	`mips 350mhz`
`11:52.57`	`jontow`	`use linux or netbsd`
`11:52.57`	`RoyK`	`that can run linux`
`11:53.01`	`jontow`	`you'll be way better off`
`11:53.01`	`jaxkz`	`(dreambox config for the ppl who know it)`
`11:53.03`	`RoyK`	`without a problem`
`11:53.07`	`RoyK`	`yeah`
`11:53.19`	`RoyK`	`or some bsd`
`11:53.28`	`jaxkz`	`Might be a better idea`
`11:53.32`	`jontow`	`if you want to use it for networked applications, just use linux or a BSD`
`11:53.40`	`jontow`	`you will be 8000 steps ahead before you ever start :)`
`11:53.57`	`lehel`	`[agree]`
`11:53.57`	`jontow`	`trust me, i've done a lot of work with minix in the past ;) .. i hear they're releasing 3.x now`
`11:54.18`	`RoyK`	`jontow: http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/minix.html says 3.1.1 is current stable`
`11:54.21`	`jaxkz`	`already been released`
`11:54.24`	`jontow`	`yep`
`11:54.26`	`jontow`	`sounds about right`
`11:54.47`	`jontow`	`i was one of the founders of EFnet's #minix years ago :)`
`11:54.48`	`RoyK`	`nah. use linux`
`11:54.50`	`jontow`	`many, many years ago, hahah`
`11:54.50`	`RoyK`	`or bsd`
`11:54.51`	`jontow`	`;P`
`11:55.18`	`jaxkz`	`I wonder where i can get a dreambox without the mpeg2 decoder`
`11:55.23`	`jaxkz`	`only the board and proc`
`11:55.56`	`RoyK`	`jaxkz: why?`
`11:56.13`	`jaxkz`	`nice config and the board is small`
`11:56.23`	`jaxkz`	`it has alot of benefits`
`11:56.28`	`jaxkz`	`cheap in production`
`11:58.51`	`robbie2`	`heh`
`11:58.53`	`robbie2`	`this is cool`
`11:59.19`	`lehel`	`it is?`
`11:59.24`	`robbie2`	`Voicemail to email`
`11:59.43`	`RoyK`	`fax to email via ocr`
`11:59.48`	`RoyK`	`that's even cooler`
`11:59.54`	`robbie2`	`yeah`
`11:59.54`	`RoyK`	`or it would be, if gocr was any good`
`12:00.04`	`robbie2`	`ocr of fax is a pipe dream`
`12:00.18`	`robbie2`	`it will arrive the same day as decent voice recognition`
`12:00.28`	`robbie2`	`hylafax does plenty of good faxing`
`12:00.30`	`robbie2`	`already`
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`12:02.56`	`power1`	`what does "CVS-HEAD" mean, i need to apply a patch for it.`
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`12:05.04`	`lehel`	`Concurrent Versions System`
`12:05.47`	`magister1`	`anyone using am12 to configure asterisk?`
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`12:07.17`	`fourcheeze`	`any more books recommended?`
`12:07.22`	`fourcheeze`	`esp on SIP etc?`
`12:07.34`	`lehel`	`fourcheeze i have that book;)`
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`12:07.53`	`fourcheeze`	`lehel: does it explain much about SIP?`
`12:08.23`	`Ikarus`	`grmbl, I need to hunt down a working ISDN BRI adapter (supported via CAPI) and practicly now, grmbl`
`12:09.30`	`fourcheeze`	`I'm thinking that I'll need to know as much about SIP in this life as I used to know about http in a previous one`
`12:09.39`	`lehel`	`fourcheeze.. there is explained pretty well..`
`12:09.58`	`lehel`	`bravo`
`12:10.05`	`fourcheeze`	`yeah, loadsa fun`
`12:10.11`	`fourcheeze`	`more toys :-)`
`12:10.15`	`lehel`	`;)`
`12:10.36`	`lehel`	`k.. i leave now.. bye all`
`12:10.40`	`fourcheeze`	`l8rz`
`12:12.46`	`fourcheeze`	`so no more dead tree recommendations?`
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`12:18.36`	`Ikarus`	`hmmmm, right, until I get my ISDN stuff continuing messing with this is very annoying, having only a single phone to work with`
`12:19.03`	`Igbothom_III`	`woohoo - got my TDM400P to play with today`
`12:20.24`	`fourcheeze`	`any good conferences coming up?`
`12:20.35`	`fourcheeze`	`west europe pref`
`12:21.04`	`bon`	`east :)`
`12:21.17`	`Ikarus`	`and with this headache and sleep that is a good thing`
`12:21.20`	`docelm0`	`Im getting my TE410P today!! I cant wait!`
`12:21.35`	`genuix`	`I fourcheeze (Pizza ?)`
`12:21.53`	`genuix`	`if you find any I willbe interested too with my collegues`
`12:22.18`	`fourcheeze`	`genuix: where are you?`
`12:22.35`	`genuix`	`did you been in the VoIP simposium in Paris last week ?`
`12:22.41`	`genuix`	`Swiss`
`12:23.14`	`fourcheeze`	`no, I haven't been to a Voip/Asterisk event yet`
`12:23.33`	`Ahrimanes`	`astricon europe was good :)`
`12:23.43`	`fourcheeze`	`Ahrimanes: when was that?`
`12:23.50`	`Ahrimanes`	`fourcheeze: uhm 2 sec`
`12:24.07`	`Ahrimanes`	`fourcheeze: Madrid, Spain - Hotel Auditorium June 15 to 17th 2005`
`12:24.10`	`genuix`	`I've been in only oes but ... the first in atlanta`
`12:24.11`	`fourcheeze`	`aha`
`12:24.17`	`fourcheeze`	`what sort of things go on at these events?`
`12:24.30`	`fourcheeze`	`lectures/seminars etc?`
`12:24.46`	`Igbothom_III`	`beer`
`12:24.53`	`fourcheeze`	`:-)`
`12:24.55`	`fourcheeze`	`beer is good`
`12:25.12`	`Ahrimanes`	`fourcheeze: tutorials, certifications, socialising, talks`
`12:25.42`	`fourcheeze`	`sounds like fun`
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`12:26.22`	`genuix`	`talk meet pepole have a beer are so fine`
`12:27.05`	`fourcheeze`	`so do these happen each year?`
`12:27.36`	`lters`	`any polycom uses know what the lastest sip ver is?`
`12:27.40`	`genuix`	`and in astri con or any others but dedicated to an project you meet pepoles that look at the same things`
`12:27.57`	`fourcheeze`	`astricon web site needs an update`
`12:28.02`	`fourcheeze`	`I can still book for this year`
`12:28.15`	`genuix`	`even if the way you see it are different the shares of idea are the most important things`
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`12:33.33`	`fourcheeze`	`anyone ever play with Xorcom rapid?`
`12:35.14`	`jmardones`	`anybody can sugget how to, block incoming calls in PSTN line?, i have a line exclusive only for outcall....`
`12:36.05`	`jmardones`	`fourcheeze, its a good distro with a powerfull system .... try it...`
`12:36.24`	`fourcheeze`	`I might well have to try it`
`12:36.39`	`fourcheeze`	`can I easily get to the brains of it`
`12:36.43`	`jmardones`	`debian is nice`
`12:36.45`	`fourcheeze`	`or is it going to keep rewriting my config`
`12:37.11`	`fourcheeze`	`debian in a shell suit ;-)`
`12:37.39`	`jmardones`	`jeje for human beings...`
`12:39.44`	`power1`	`can some1 assist me in loading a patch?`
`12:40.38`	`robin_sz`	`OK, soo ... a bit further on, I have capi info showing 4 controllers, all with 2 B channels available .. I have TRUNK set to CAPI, and calls routing to the CAPI channels ...`
`12:40.40`	`robin_sz`	`but ...`
`12:40.55`	`jontow`	`power1; you .. need to learn how to use gnu tools :) CVS-HEAD is the ongoing development branch, you "apply" a patch, not "load" it, and 'man patch' will help you out significantly..`
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`12:41.46`	`robin_sz`	`channel 'SIP/790-b63e' status is 'NOANSWER'`
`12:41.52`	`robin_sz`	`is what I always get ...`
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`12:41.56`	`robbie2`	`got a question, my company that sent me the tdm400p mentions using the wctdm module`
`12:42.10`	`power1`	`jontow, ive tried to apply the patch by following the instruction..`
`12:42.17`	`robin_sz`	`do I need to add a timeout or somthing?`
`12:42.23`	`robbie2`	`yet my rapid disk automaticaly used the wcfxs module`
`12:42.44`	`robbie2`	`is wctdm now depreciated ?`
`12:42.45`	`power1`	`jontow, but nothing happens, i dont even get dropped back to the prompt after pressing enter.`
`12:43.17`	`robin_sz`	`I have : exten => _00.,1,Dial(${TRUNK}/g1/${EXTEN}}) ... g1 is the outgoing group`
`12:43.30`	`Igbothom_III`	`robbie2; methinks you mean deprecated, not depreciated`
`12:43.39`	`robbie2`	`yes`
`12:43.43`	`Igbothom_III`	`:)`
`12:43.53`	`robbie2`	`unless someone has worked out a way to do such things`
`12:44.02`	`robbie2`	`and we can all save on tax :)`
`12:44.04`	`Igbothom_III`	`welcome to #asterisk-accounting :)`
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`12:44.11`	`robbie2`	`heh`
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`12:44.24`	`robbie2`	`Igbothom_III: can you answer my question ?`
`12:44.48`	`magister1`	`i think not i am a newbie`
`12:44.59`	`Igbothom_III`	`nope, sorry, but interested in the answer`
`12:45.09`	`robbie2`	`yes`
`12:45.12`	`magister1`	`i have many questions of my own`
`12:45.18`	`robbie2`	`the sheet form the supplier says`
`12:45.28`	`Igbothom_III`	`the smart mas has questions`
`12:45.38`	`robbie2`	`to modprobe wctdm opermode=AUSTRALIA fxshonormode=1 boostring=1`
`12:45.51`	`robbie2`	`cept i dont hav3 a wctdm module`
`12:46.10`	`Igbothom_III`	`thou probably shouldst`
`12:46.35`	`magister1`	`anyone using perlscript from AM12 to configure asterisk?`
`12:46.59`	`robbie2`	`Igbothom_III: i am not sure, thecard is working and i can make calls`
`12:47.08`	`robbie2`	`though people tell me my voice is very quiet`
`12:47.30`	`Igbothom_III`	`tried turning the handset up the other way?`
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`12:47.40`	`robbie2`	`smarty pants`
`12:47.43`	`robbie2`	`Faithful: hey`
`12:47.58`	`Igbothom_III`	`whereaboots in Qld, btw?`
`12:48.02`	`robbie2`	`gold coast`
`12:48.05`	`Igbothom_III`	`cool`
`12:48.12`	`robbie2`	`just behind movie world`
`12:48.13`	`Igbothom_III`	`you get a fsck of a storm just then?`
`12:48.23`	`robbie2`	`funny enough it went either side of me`
`12:48.23`	`Igbothom_III`	`Coomera`
`12:48.25`	`robbie2`	`yeah`
`12:48.35`	`robbie2`	`we didnt get enough rain to make the ground wet`
`12:48.50`	`Igbothom_III`	`we got it, blackout here for a minute or so, we'd JUST been served food at a local restaurant when they lost power :)`
`12:48.59`	`Igbothom_III`	`big, heavy rain here`
`12:49.14`	`Igbothom_III`	`(Sth side of Brisbane)`
`12:49.23`	`Igbothom_III`	`Sunnybank, basically`
`12:50.46`	`Ikarus`	`bleah, Asterisk has one annoyance, the fact that extensions and menu systems collide I guess I'll run 2 asterisk servers on a single box to handle that or something`
`12:52.41`	`robbie2`	`i take it this isnt so good`
`12:52.46`	`robbie2`	`11: 33855 XT-PIC Intel ICH 82801AA, uhci_hcd, wctdm, eth0`
`12:52.54`	`robbie2`	`from /proc/interrupts`
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`12:55.04`	`iCEBrkr`	`'Morning all`
`12:56.03`	`Ikarus`	`robbie2: ieep`
`12:56.41`	`robbie2`	`Ikarus: ieep ?`
`12:56.55`	`Ikarus`	`robbie2: that is bad, but can still be usable`
`12:56.57`	`robbie2`	`too many shareing the interrupt you think ?`
`12:57.06`	`Ikarus`	`Depends on the load`
`12:57.07`	`robbie2`	`could it be the cause of my quiet phone calls ?`
`12:57.23`	`Ikarus`	`unlikely`
`12:57.29`	`Igbothom_III`	`sorry, what was that?`
`12:57.30`	`Ikarus`	`it would effect capacity more`
`12:57.43`	`iCEBrkr`	`robbie2: wow, all those things are sharing IRQ-11?`
`12:57.56`	`Ikarus`	`iCEBrkr: it is normal on a modern mobo`
`12:58.07`	`Ikarus`	`but it might not be desired`
`12:58.14`	`lenne_dk`	`Ikarus, that's what contents are for, extensions and menu systems`
`12:58.22`	`iCEBrkr`	`Ikarus: I dunno man, my machines don't do that.`
`12:58.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:58.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:58.44`	`Ikarus`	`lenne_dk: ah, then I am messing things up, I think well, this is my first asterisk setup that is more then a simple media relay`
`12:59.20`	`mutilator`	`i don't have any of my servers with shared irq's`
`12:59.26`	`Ikarus`	`any docs that approach it sensibly lenne_dk ?`
`13:00.48`	`lenne_dk`	`Really don't understand the problem. Perhaps draw the extensions and menus on paper first :-)`
`13:01.16`	`robin_sz`	`sigh ...`
`13:01.22`	`robin_sz`	`I wish I understood this ...`
`13:01.47`	`Ikarus`	`lenne_dk: I don't really get all the concepts, the docs I found where either very basic, or plunged in and assumed you knew everything already`
`13:04.29`	`stoffell`	`here's a nice overview of docs: http://asteriskguru.com/tutorials/`
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`13:06.52`	`Katty`	`hi lads.`
`13:07.02`	`Igbothom_III`	`purrrrrrrrrr`
`13:07.08`	`iCEBrkr`	`What are you trying to understand?`
`13:07.13`	`Katty`	`i'm confuzzulated about auto-attendant.`
`13:07.24`	`Katty`	`in extensions.conf, i did 900,1,Playback(foo)`
`13:07.32`	`Katty`	`and then 2,3,4 etc.`
`13:07.38`	`Katty`	`but how do i do the inputs?`
`13:07.45`	`iCEBrkr`	`Background()`
`13:07.47`	`Katty`	`1,1,s,la!`
`13:07.50`	`Katty`	`like that?`
`13:07.59`	`iCEBrkr`	`Inputs?`
`13:08.06`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: press 1 to hangup`
`13:08.15`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: you've chosen to hang up`
`13:08.18`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: goodbye`
`13:08.25`	`Ikarus`	`right, more important issues, pr0n blocker being too agressive`
`13:08.25`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: 1,1,s,Hangup`
`13:08.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`create an [auto-attendant] context`
`13:08.29`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: i have.`
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`13:08.50`	`iCEBrkr`	`exten => 1,1,Hangup()`
`13:09.05`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: if i have other 1 extensions, will it interfere?`
`13:09.10`	`iCEBrkr`	`Sure would`
`13:09.11`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: or will it just apply to when they call in?`
`13:09.36`	`iCEBrkr`	`Well, depends on the context.`
`13:09.49`	`Katty`	`lovely.`
`13:10.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`If you have a 1 extension in your [local] context for people dial out.. no`
`13:10.56`	`Katty`	`i've a catch all _xxxx`
`13:11.01`	`Katty`	`that's for extensions.`
`13:11.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`ok`
`13:11.14`	`Katty`	`there are some company speed dials`
`13:11.24`	`Katty`	`2,3, and 5 digits.`
`13:11.46`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: Those would be in your [local] context or whatever you're using for 'inside people' not in an auto-attendant context`
`13:11.56`	`Katty`	`[from-sip] ?`
`13:12.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`Whichever.`
`13:12.38`	`Katty`	`under [from-sip] i have contexts voicemail, to-telephone-company, call-sip-number, parkedcalls, and currently auto-attendant since it's not made yet`
`13:13.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damn pastebin`
`13:13.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`no worky`
`13:13.09`	`Katty`	`i need to make auto attendant not be under from-sip when it's finished.`
`13:13.24`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: Position doesn't matter.`
`13:13.24`	`Katty`	`therefore, anything under from-sip will not apply to auto-attendant, right?`
`13:13.33`	`robbie2`	`wtf`
`13:13.35`	`robbie2`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:13.44`	`iCEBrkr`	`robbie2: ztcfg -vvv`
`13:13.59`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: that doesn't make sense.`
`13:14.00`	`robbie2`	`Channel 01: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 01)`
`13:14.02`	`robbie2`	`1 channels configured.`
`13:14.04`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: anytime you start a new [context] anything previous to that doesn't apply.`
`13:14.20`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: unless it's included as an include under my [from-sip] context`
`13:14.23`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: Sure it does. Think of things as code-blocks. [context-names] are the headers`
`13:14.24`	`Katty`	`then it applies :P`
`13:14.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: Exactly!`
`13:14.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`include=>auto_attendant`
`13:14.52`	`Katty`	`and that would be under my incoming zappy stuffs.`
`13:15.00`	`iCEBrkr`	`Yeah`
`13:15.03`	`robbie2`	`thats better`
`13:15.06`	`Katty`	`but then how do menus work?`
`13:15.20`	`Katty`	`press one for sales. next menu... press one for copier sales, two for printer sales, etc`
`13:15.21`	`robbie2`	`iCEBrkr: had fxsks set to 1 in zaptel.conf`
`13:15.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`robbie2: ahhh`
`13:15.32`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: if ones already uhh, taken`
`13:15.35`	`robbie2`	`and the module was in #4`
`13:15.41`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: Why would one be taken?`
`13:15.47`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: because 1 is for sales.`
`13:15.55`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: i don't comprehend how it allows for submenus.`
`13:16.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: You jump to other contexts`
`13:16.15`	`Katty`	`eh?`
`13:16.23`	`Katty`	`1,1,include=> something?`
`13:16.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`Goto(printer_sales,1)`
`13:16.42`	`Katty`	`what's the 1?`
`13:16.43`	`iCEBrkr`	`Goto(corp_sales,1)`
`13:16.48`	`Katty`	`line 1?`
`13:16.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`goto(context,priority)`
`13:16.57`	`Katty`	`oh.`
`13:16.57`	`Katty`	`k`
`13:17.13`	`iCEBrkr`	`[printer_sales]`
`13:17.24`	`iCEBrkr`	`exten => 1,Background(...)`
`13:17.30`	`Katty`	`background?`
`13:17.33`	`robin_sz`	`sigh .. you have to hand it to voiptalk.org ...`
`13:17.35`	`Katty`	`why background instead of playback?`
`13:17.41`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: Background is interruptable.`
`13:17.44`	`tzanger`	`Katty: so you can detect DTMF`
`13:17.47`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: k'then`
`13:18.02`	`robin_sz`	`you have to be REALLY special to even get congestion on your welcom message/status number`
`13:18.10`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: Playback() the user has to hear the entire prompt`
`13:18.17`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: >:)`
`13:18.20`	`iCEBrkr`	`haha`
`13:18.50`	`robin_sz`	`care to suggest a provider that doesn't suck?`
`13:18.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`Actually, Playback() doesn't grab DTMF, it just plays the file.`
`13:18.59`	`lenne_dk`	`Katty, to add to the confusion :-), you can have extension numbers, which are subsets og eavh other`
`13:19.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`robbie2: Nufone or Voicepulse`
`13:19.10`	`lenne_dk`	`Both extenstion 5 and 55 for example.`
`13:19.17`	`Katty`	`lenne_dk: let's get one thing straight.`
`13:19.22`	`Katty`	`lenne_dk: i don't need lots of confusion`
`13:19.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`haha`
`13:19.30`	`Katty`	`lenne_dk: if i need a more indepth explination. i will explain`
`13:19.34`	`Katty`	`lenne_dk: k?`
`13:19.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`apt-get install confusion`
`13:19.37`	`iCEBrkr`	`apt-get install confusion_devel`
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`13:20.25`	`Katty`	`file[laptop]: shame on you for running off with that too.`
`13:20.35`	`file[laptop]`	`:(`
`13:20.45`	`Katty`	`i said you could have a sip!`
`13:20.50`	`Katty`	`not an iax!`
`13:20.55`	`iCEBrkr`	`har har har`
`13:21.13`	`Katty`	`file[laptop]: is your intarweb fixed?`
`13:21.19`	`file[laptop]`	`Katty: for now.`
`13:21.25`	`Katty`	`:>`
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`13:22.23`	`corry1000`	`all you knowlegable people could someone be so kind as to educate me in how to setup QoS with IPCop for Asterisk. your help will be greatly apreciated`
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`13:23.20`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: you should help me with my menu.`
`13:23.21`	`twisted`	`oof`
`13:23.28`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: i mean auto-attendant thingy`
`13:23.32`	`twisted`	`Katty, mine eyes are not fully open this morning`
`13:23.40`	`Katty`	`twisted: i didn't mean right /now/`
`13:23.47`	`twisted`	`oh ok`
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`13:24.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`twisted: I know the feeling. I took a shower with the bathroom lights out this morning.`
`13:24.10`	`Katty`	`twisted: but if you call my iax number, you can listen to the Rite Group Gone Bad auto-attendant`
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`13:24.46`	`mutilator`	`omgme too iCEBrkr`
`13:24.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`OMGZ!`
`13:25.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`I wasn't ready to wake up yet.`
`13:25.06`	`mutilator`	`except at 1:30am.. and i had a candle`
`13:25.13`	`robbie2`	`hmm`
`13:25.18`	`robbie2`	`doesnt detect hangup properly`
`13:25.25`	`robbie2`	`and rings a bit late`
`13:25.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`I'm supposed to be at work at 8.... I rolled outta bed by 8`
`13:25.38`	`mutilator`	`heh lazy arse`
`13:25.49`	`mutilator`	`i'll probly be here til like 3`
`13:25.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`mutilator: I've been working 15hr days man.`
`13:26.14`	`mutilator`	`i see`
`13:26.25`	`mutilator`	`sounds like you need to hire me`
`13:26.27`	`mutilator`	`;)`
`13:26.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`ha`
`13:26.40`	`iCEBrkr`	`We need to hire some talent in this damn shop`
`13:27.10`	`iCEBrkr`	`This place is like 1994 + Office Space`
`13:27.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`All the machines are prehistoric`
`13:27.41`	`fourcheeze`	`I'm gonna have to watch that tonight`
`13:27.57`	`iCEBrkr`	`Someone thought it'd be cute to have use 196.69.69.x as our 'private' subnet.`
`13:28.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`Show's how clueless they were.`
`13:28.21`	`iCEBrkr`	`We're still on a frac T1 that gets about 30k/sec`
`13:29.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`All I've learned here is that if this place can stay afloat this long-- I can run my own company.`
`13:29.27`	`mutilator`	`hmm`
`13:29.46`	`iCEBrkr`	`Oh and we're still using Groupwise + Novell 4`
`13:29.51`	`mutilator`	`theres 5 ppl out there now that have a J first name`
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`13:31.24`	`Ayano`	`what is the difference between a T-1, PRI, and BRI?`
`13:31.39`	`Katty`	`wake up little suzie, wake up.`
`13:34.14`	`Katty`	`i am /not/ suzie`
`13:34.24`	`file[laptop]`	`yes you are`
`13:34.35`	`Katty`	`lies. all lies.`
`13:34.40`	`mutilator`	`GRRR`
`13:34.44`	`mutilator`	`fscking dialup users`
`13:34.44`	`Katty`	`i am an angie.`
`13:34.45`	`file[laptop]`	`nope`
`13:35.16`	`mutilator`	`3k bounced/invalid msgs in the queue from a dialup user`
`13:35.32`	`Katty`	`mutilator: what sort of invalid messages?`
`13:35.44`	`corry1000`	`Katty, i was wondering if u could help me with some advice`
`13:35.49`	`mutilator`	`no such recipient`
`13:35.53`	`mutilator`	`or domain`
`13:36.03`	`Katty`	`corry1000: i do not understand the nature of your request.`
`13:36.38`	`iCEBrkr`	`OMG`
`13:36.44`	`Katty`	`file[laptop]: no napping! get to work!`
`13:36.51`	`file[laptop]`	`Katty: soon.`
`13:36.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`I just got off the phone with our T1 provider and our T1s are jacked up`
`13:37.10`	`corry1000`	`i need to setup quality of service on a software called IPCOP is there anyway you could help me`
`13:37.16`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: do they have random photons floating about it.`
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`13:37.26`	`Katty`	`corry1000: i've never heard of IPCOP, i'd suggest googling.`
`13:37.28`	`iCEBrkr`	`corry1000: umm, this IS #Asterisk, I dunno :P`
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`13:37.36`	`mattHelm`	`Anyone know the default admin password for a Soyo G668?`
`13:37.43`	`mutilator`	`join #ipcop`
`13:37.48`	`Katty`	`mattHelm: i year google knows.`
`13:37.49`	`mutilator`	`it's a real channel, i checked`
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`13:37.50`	`mutilator`	`:P`
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`13:38.04`	`Katty`	`mattHelm: s/year/hear/`
`13:38.06`	`Katty`	`Ariel_: mew.`
`13:38.12`	`mattHelm`	`KAtty: I don't think so.`
`13:38.14`	`Ariel_`	`Katty, hello`
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`13:38.34`	`file[laptop]`	`Katty!!!`
`13:38.35`	`corry1000`	`the QoS is for Asterisk. i am googleing, but i thought someone might know`
`13:38.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`Is IPCop just a front-end for IPtables?`
`13:39.18`	`Ariel_`	`iCEBrkr, partly`
`13:39.19`	`pif`	`anyone configured a SPA-3000 ?`
`13:39.20`	`corry1000`	`IPCop is an open-source firewall`
`13:39.31`	`Ariel_`	`pif, yes`
`13:39.39`	`fugitivo`	`morning`
`13:39.43`	`iCEBrkr`	`Cuz ic IPCop is just a front-end, search for QoS IPTables`
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`13:40.22`	`pif`	`Ariel_ : were you able to have the fxo port ring * without taking it off-hook?`
`13:40.46`	`pif`	`when someone calls through the pstn`
`13:41.17`	`mutilator`	`man i hate having my desk IN the noc`
`13:41.20`	`mutilator`	`i'm soo fscking cold`
`13:41.35`	`iCEBrkr`	`These lines aren't PRI's they're PFS?`
`13:41.41`	`iCEBrkr`	`What the hell is PFS??`
`13:41.41`	`pif`	`mutilator : do you have the red stapler?`
`13:41.57`	`mutilator`	`alas i have no stapler at all`
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`13:42.45`	`mutilator`	`i got my coat on`
`13:42.45`	`mutilator`	`:P`
`13:42.49`	`hellop`	`hello`
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`13:44.14`	`mutilator`	`ahhhhh`
`13:44.18`	`mutilator`	`my ghost timer is going the wrong wauy`
`13:44.39`	`mutilator`	`when the time left hit the same as the time elapsed they both started going up`
`13:44.39`	`mattHelm`	`mutilator: I'll trade you. I've got 2 dell poweredge servers in my office, 15 degrees hotter than the rest of the building.`
`13:44.59`	`hellop`	`Small problem. I changed from 10.x to 192.168.x network. I changed the phone's IP, the host in the web config, and sip.conf. I call call from outside into the phone, but I get no dialtone calling out.`
`13:45.07`	`hellop`	`What simple thing am I missing?`
`13:45.34`	`hellop`	`OH`
`13:45.44`	`kippi`	`hi`
`13:45.47`	`hellop`	`If I register, then I have to have host=dynamic..`
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`13:46.50`	`cjk`	`hi, does anyone know if its possible to do a notransfer=no when 2 iax clients are behind nat?`
`13:46.55`	`hellop`	`what am I missing...`
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`13:47.14`	`kippi`	`with call reporting on asterisk is there a file you have to setup? I have the web interface loaded and all the cvs files are created but when I try and run a report it says there is no data`
`13:47.41`	`file[laptop]`	`kippi: that's not asterisk, it's another software package`
`13:48.26`	`iCEBrkr`	`I take it back, we don't need to hire!!! This new intern guy freaks me out`
`13:48.56`	`{zombie}`	`Can anybody help me with a zaptel timing issue?`
`13:49.14`	`{zombie}`	`I have a TE110P configured to be my primary sync source, and from waht I've read I'm supposed to see "ClockSource" in my /proc/zaptel/1`
`13:49.16`	`{zombie}`	`but I'm not`
`13:49.24`	`{zombie}`	`and zttool says "Sync Source: Internally clocked"`
`13:49.44`	`{zombie}`	`.. and after a few days asterisk and my telco go out of sync`
`13:50.06`	`hellop`	`ok, had to change to dynamic, but then you have to re register.. maybe if I specified the host= in sip.conf, then told the phone not to register itself it would have worked..`
`13:50.07`	`Katty`	`0 is a legal number to dial, right.`
`13:50.56`	`kippi`	`who is the call reporting done by?`
`13:53.57`	`Katty`	`twisted: is 0 a legal extension?`
`13:54.24`	`twisted`	`Katty, nods`
`13:54.38`	`Katty`	`twisted: thanks :>`
`14:01.33`	`file[laptop]`	`:D`
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`14:09.13`	`hellop`	`My polycom has been sitting with the power unplugged for 2 months.. it now fails to get on the network via DHCP or static... any ideas?`
`14:10.17`	`hellop`	`Polycom 501`
`14:11.25`	`fourcheeze`	`is there any real difference between ulaw and alaw?`
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`14:13.55`	`skeffling`	`fourcheeze, http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-December/078320.html`
`14:15.31`	`fourcheeze`	`ok, so no difference really`
`14:15.42`	`hellop`	`I guess my phone is just broken`
`14:16.00`	`fourcheeze`	`trying to use g726-32 on the snom 360 with asterisk and getting a nice Darth Vader effect`
`14:16.32`	`hellop`	`Do you think unplugging the power from a Power over IP cat5 cable could break a Polycom 501?`
`14:16.49`	`fourcheeze`	`not encountered that before on sipura or softphone`
`14:17.06`	`docelm0`	`In minutes what is the equivilent of a T1?`
`14:17.12`	`docelm0`	`100,000 Minutes?`
`14:17.21`	`file[laptop]`	`under constant use?`
`14:17.29`	`file[laptop]`	`for a month?`
`14:17.33`	`docelm0`	`for a month`
`14:17.34`	`docelm0`	`yes`
`14:17.41`	`file[laptop]`	`how many days, and a T1 or a PRI?`
`14:17.48`	`docelm0`	`I want to say 100 or 300 I cant remember`
`14:17.56`	`docelm0`	`Virtual T1`
`14:18.02`	`docelm0`	`24 channels`
`14:18.15`	`jontow`	`more than 100k, thats for damned sure`
`14:18.27`	`file[laptop]`	`over a million provided constant use, 31 days`
`14:18.32`	`jontow`	`i calculate ~993k for 23 channels, 33120 minutes per day, 30 days`
`14:18.46`	`file[laptop]`	`yeah, a lot :)`
`14:19.27`	`jontow`	`docelm0; easy to calculate btw.. 1440 minutes in a day for a "single channel, constant use", multiply 1440 by the number of channels, then multiple the answer by the number of days`
`14:19.50`	`RoyK`	`~disclaimer`
`14:20.12`	`RoyK`	`?`
`14:20.16`	`jontow`	`wrong channel? :D`
`14:20.17`	`docelm0`	`1036800 This is what I came up with (60minutes * 24 hours * 30 days * 24 channels)`
`14:20.22`	`RoyK`	`JonR800: nonono...`
`14:20.30`	`RoyK`	`jontow: nonono`
`14:20.33`	`jontow`	`hehehe`
`14:20.40`	`RoyK`	`jontow: I specifically told jbot about it....`
`14:20.45`	`jontow`	`cool`
`14:20.52`	`RoyK`	`but someone told it to forget it.....`
`14:21.00`	`jontow`	`:P`
`14:21.04`	`file[laptop]`	`kurg blah`
`14:22.01`	`hellop`	`Polycom 501 for parts $50`
`14:22.02`	`RoyK`	`jbot: disclaimer?`
`14:24.08`	`docelm0`	`anyone interested in buying a Sipura 2000 and 3000?`
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`14:24.52`	`warthog`	`anyone know of a sip device that can be an intercom for a door and provide a voltage to unlock a magnetic door? if not sip, how about an ata device?`
`14:25.02`	`hellop`	`I should be able to set a static IP on my phone, and it should connect to the network and be pingable, asterisk sever or not, right?`
`14:25.10`	`docelm0`	`wartog DUDE IF YOU FIND THAT LET ME KNOW!`
`14:26.17`	`docelm0`	`I need one for my office PBX I am building now`
`14:26.19`	`warthog`	`docelm, I was thinking of trying to send a unlock signal down the line by using an fxs port to just sent a ring signal, but the intercom is an issue`
`14:26.54`	`warthog`	`docelm0, perhaps we can work together on this, you want to get together via voice and work it out?`
`14:27.15`	`hellop`	`warthog, I'm working on that now. You can run perl scripts from extensions.conf, you just use a script to throw a parallel port pin high, and a circuit to activate a solenoid.`
`14:27.16`	`docelm0`	`I believe there is something on the WIKI for this but I havent checked into them much`
`14:29.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:29.04`	`iCEBrkr`	`w00t`
`14:29.10`	`hellop`	`warthog, a linear solenoid it easy, but a rotary solenoid somehow affixed directly to the lock would be slicker. Rotary ones have a spring return..`
`14:29.17`	`jontow`	`warthog; i've seen it possible using FXS .. specifically, Digium had a phone that Russell (drumkilla) had setup to ring a remote end as it picked up`
`14:29.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`um.`
`14:29.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`I don't have a D channle on this line....`
`14:29.39`	`jontow`	`actually..`
`14:29.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:29.46`	`jontow`	`he had it setup to ring all the phones in the room ;)`
`14:29.47`	`iCEBrkr`	`Is that anything i should worry about?`
`14:29.56`	`jontow`	`it was at their booth at Fall VON in Boston this year`
`14:30.02`	`robbie2`	`so do the 802.11 ip phones do roaming so you can stroll around a large building and eamlessly jump between access points ?`
`14:30.10`	`robbie2`	`umm seamlessly`
`14:30.18`	`robbie2`	`while talking`
`14:33.30`	`docelm0`	`No takers on the Sipura's?`
`14:33.33`	`warthog`	`hellop: can you sent me a quick tip on how to throw a parallel port pin high from perl? not sure what to google for on that.`
`14:33.39`	`robbie2`	`docelm0: i got a sipura`
`14:33.45`	`robbie2`	`spa-841`
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`14:33.58`	`docelm0`	`I have a 2000, 3000 I want to get rid of and upgrade to a TDM card`
`14:34.03`	`hellop`	`outb(0-255)`
`14:34.32`	`evangelion`	`does any of you run ser and asterisk on the same machine?`
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`14:38.07`	`MicC_`	`hey guys`
`14:38.57`	`iCEBrkr`	`Alright, so I guess I got my T100P card all working.. So how do I dial out from it? Zap1, Zap/g1, Zap1/g1???? Nothing seems to work.`
`14:38.57`	`MicC_`	`ummm...what file is written when a phone registers with *?`
`14:39.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`MicC_: It's not a file.`
`14:39.07`	`mutilator`	`damn solar flares`
`14:39.10`	`hellop`	`warthog you just need to do some searching on google... you also need some basic electronic experience, or buy a opto-isolated relay board that plugs into your parallel port`
`14:39.14`	`mutilator`	`i got wifi towers goin down all over`
`14:39.23`	`mutilator`	`and coming back up on their own`
`14:39.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`mutilator: sure it's not a hurricane?`
`14:39.28`	`iCEBrkr`	`oh.`
`14:39.32`	`MicC_`	`iCEBrkr: stored in memory or DB?`
`14:39.36`	`iCEBrkr`	`MicC_: DB`
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`14:39.47`	`remibreval`	`Hello everyone !`
`14:39.49`	`mutilator`	`in northern michigan? i don't think so`
`14:39.55`	`iCEBrkr`	`mutilator: ha`
`14:40.00`	`iCEBrkr`	`mutilator: tornados?`
`14:40.02`	`MicC_`	`ok...next questions is..What is the name of the DB file?`
`14:41.00`	`remibreval`	`Just little question... I'm using X-lite and I try different codec (G711u, G711a). GSM not accepted.`
`14:41.21`	`remibreval`	`I think the sound quality is better with Skype`
`14:41.32`	`remibreval`	`Skype has more high frequency`
`14:41.50`	`remibreval`	`How to change it in asterisk ? I can't find any line in conf file ?!?`
`14:42.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`remibreval: sip.conf`
`14:42.13`	`iCEBrkr`	`allow/deny lines`
`14:42.27`	`remibreval`	`Ok, I'll check again...`
`14:42.48`	`hellop`	`I got that little $10 RFID tag reader that they sell on ebay.. It's no good for a door lock, because to remove a key you have to swipe the key.`
`14:43.15`	`remibreval`	`Which codec you recommand for good quality (I have large internet connection : 20mbit/2mbit per user)`
`14:44.00`	`iCEBrkr`	`remibreval: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=product_detail&category=extras&product=G729`
`14:45.28`	`remibreval`	`yeah ! sounds great ! :) Is it complicated to install a codec after ? I didn't find any docs! (ok, after I promise I write a book for asterisk@home bad users from windows :)`
`14:46.02`	`mutilator`	`er`
`14:46.06`	`mutilator`	`why not use ulaw?`
`14:47.06`	`remibreval`	`lol, they say at the end ok the readme : 5) Start Asterisk normally.`
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`14:47.24`	`watchy`	`can ciscos ip softphone connect to asterisk?`
`14:47.28`	`remibreval`	`It means that we don't need to change anything in conf ?! oups! don't kill me !!`
`14:48.21`	`remibreval`	`Watchy : in asterisk@home config UI, there is a "Cisco phone config"`
`14:48.41`	`watchy`	`hrm`
`14:48.44`	`{zombie}`	`remibreval: the sound quality of g729 isn't going to be any better than g711`
`14:48.46`	`remibreval`	`So i think yes, asterisk (normal) can use it`
`14:48.48`	`watchy`	`probably for an actuall phone`
`14:48.51`	`{zombie}`	`at least not if you have the bandwidth`
`14:48.57`	`{zombie}`	`if anything it's going to sound worse`
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`14:49.04`	`{zombie}`	`g729 is good for low bandwidth links`
`14:49.19`	`remibreval`	`Zombie, ok, so what should I use to have the same quality than Skype !`
`14:49.38`	`{zombie}`	`g711 should give you perfect quality. I don't know why you are not`
`14:49.45`	`remibreval`	`I ear like very bass sound, and not so much high frequency with aste`
`14:49.45`	`{zombie}`	`but then I've never used skype and I rarely use x-lite`
`14:49.54`	`remibreval`	`ok`
`14:49.59`	`{zombie}`	`try a different softphone maybe`
`14:50.00`	`remibreval`	`maybe it is a pb with x-lite`
`14:50.07`	`iCEBrkr`	`What if I don't have a D-CHannel?!!?`
`14:50.10`	`{zombie}`	`at least with sip you have the choice of many`
`14:50.19`	`remibreval`	`maybe it use 11000 instead of 44Khz`
`14:50.30`	`mutilator`	`then don't use pri mode?`
`14:50.35`	`remibreval`	`oups, I should use google : I don't know what is a D-Channel...`
`14:51.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`mutilator: it's whacked man.`
`14:51.09`	`hellop`	`bbl`
`14:51.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`mutilator: It's a PFS? AMIFS?`
`14:51.26`	`remibreval`	`Just curious : with Asterisk (not @home I mean) do you have the browser config capability ??`
`14:51.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`What the hell is ths shit?`
`14:51.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`remibreval: nope`
`14:51.49`	`iCEBrkr`	`remibreval: and if you find one it sucks`
`14:51.57`	`remibreval`	`why ?`
`14:52.06`	`{zombie}`	`remibreval: you can use AMP (the web interface a@home uses) with asterisk`
`14:52.12`	`{zombie}`	`without using a@h`
`14:52.14`	`{zombie}`	`if that's what you mean`
`14:52.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`remibreval: Ask the authors`
`14:52.23`	`{zombie}`	`although I don't know why you'd want to`
`14:52.39`	`{zombie}`	`nothing beats command line editing IMO :)`
`14:52.42`	`MicC_`	`lol...take AAH and neuter it (remove what you don't need) and it works very well.`
`14:52.47`	`iCEBrkr`	`{zombie}: I live in a windows world..`
`14:52.50`	`remibreval`	`ok, great. Because, if I use the regular asterisk, I want to put the computer somewhere and configure it from my PC`
`14:52.51`	`mutilator`	`your t1 is pfs?`
`14:53.08`	`iCEBrkr`	`mutilator: apparently.`
`14:53.14`	`iCEBrkr`	`mutilator: All 24 channels are used to dial.`
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`14:53.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`I've never heard of sucha thing.. Then again, I'm quite the telco n00b`
`14:53.39`	`remibreval`	`I can edit conf files in a browser, I mean I don't need graphical interface, but it's good to do this far from the server`
`14:53.40`	`mutilator`	`i see`
`14:53.44`	`mutilator`	`what's it hooked to?`
`14:53.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`mutilator: What'cha mean?`
`14:53.59`	`mutilator`	`whats the T plugged into?`
`14:54.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`remibreval: that's what SSH is for :P`
`14:54.07`	`mutilator`	`kinda adtran equipment or something`
`14:54.39`	`remibreval`	`ice, yep yep, but In some cases (some clients in my work) they bloc this on their routers :-(`
`14:54.40`	`iCEBrkr`	`Nothing. I got a T100P card in my machine and it goes directly into the interface card on the wall.`
`14:55.35`	`mutilator`	`oh`
`14:55.40`	`mutilator`	`i see`
`14:55.54`	`mutilator`	`wonder why they have ya that instead of a pri`
`14:56.12`	`iCEBrkr`	`Supposedly that's how our old system works with Dialogic cards.`
`14:56.22`	`mutilator`	`could be`
`14:56.34`	`mutilator`	`it's just like turnin your box into a channel bank`
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`14:56.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`But in the past, I've delt with PRIs with Dialogic cards`
`14:56.46`	`mutilator`	`each port probly has a phone # assigned to it?`
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`14:57.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`mutilator: Most likely..`
`14:57.12`	`mutilator`	`ghetto`
`14:57.19`	`iCEBrkr`	`mutilator: I told you this place was jacked up`
`14:57.26`	`remibreval`	`ARff, I have nothing about codec in sip.conf (I also have reference to sip_Additional.conf but same, I just have the extentions).`
`14:57.42`	`mutilator`	`so fix it`
`14:57.48`	`mutilator`	`thats what valuable employees do`
`14:57.50`	`hellop`	`Ok, I have a budgetone 101, work fine with . I have a Polycom 501, that will not get on the network. I set it static, but it will not send any packets to my server.`
`14:57.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`remibreval:`
`14:57.57`	`iCEBrkr`	`;disallow=all ; First disallow all codecs`
`14:57.57`	`iCEBrkr`	`;allow=ulaw ; Allow codecs in order of preference`
`14:57.57`	`iCEBrkr`	`;allow=ilbc ; Note: codec order is respected only in [general]`
`14:58.24`	`remibreval`	`ok thanks iCEBrbk !!`
`14:58.29`	`mutilator`	`man this sucks`
`14:58.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`mutilator: Well, I could call and reprovision the line which will most likely break our old system`
`14:58.35`	`mutilator`	`it's like not even noon and i'm gettin tired`
`14:59.14`	`mutilator`	`still another hr and 20 min til this damn thing is done ghosting`
`14:59.21`	`mutilator`	`pos`
`14:59.35`	`mutilator`	`maybe it'll speed up`
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`15:01.22`	`hellop`	`I reboot the phone, I see nothing on the network. I look at the phone, it says it's transmitting packets, not receiving any, almost like the network cable is broken. Which it's not.`
`15:02.08`	`SwK[Work]`	`anyone running vicidial?`
`15:02.10`	`hellop`	`Should I just abandon all hope?`
`15:02.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`hellop: never!!`
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`15:02.51`	`mutilator`	`screw it`
`15:02.53`	`mutilator`	`i'm goin home`
`15:03.14`	`hellop`	`I set it to different ip addresses on my 192.168.0.x network... nothing. It used to work.`
`15:03.41`	`joelsolanki`	`if using pass thru for g.729 only 1 phone works at a time ?`
`15:04.01`	`blitzrage`	`morning`
`15:04.22`	`hellop`	`It should see the network, even if asterisk is down. The cable works, so I must conclude that the phone it broken.`
`15:07.54`	`joelsolanki`	`any ideas..i m using passthru and trying to make calls from 2 devices at same time. it is telling me. No compatible codecs. so it does mean pass thru work only for 1 call at a time ?`
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`15:08.05`	`remibreval`	`ok I have now last question, but I think easy. I notice that When I add extension, I have to reboot computer in a way it is accepted. Maybe I can just restart a service or something... ? Because rebooting computer cut all current communications...`
`15:08.54`	`iCEBrkr`	`joelsolanki: SOunds like each end has a different set of codecs`
`15:09.03`	`hellop`	`remibreval, "extensions reload" in asterisk?`
`15:09.24`	`iCEBrkr`	`remibreval: Don't reboot`
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`15:10.07`	`remibreval`	`ahh ok, I'll check how to implement this function on the browser UI`
`15:10.22`	`mattHelm`	`Almost have this bleeping Soyo G668 configured.`
`15:10.41`	`rdsousa`	`can anybody help me connecting * to an isdn pbx`
`15:10.47`	`docelm0`	`EVERYONE QUIET DOWN MIGGIDY HAS A QUESTION!`
`15:10.53`	`mattHelm`	`Can call it from another extension, but can't make calls from it... get a busy signal...`
`15:11.02`	`rdsousa`	`thru an hfc card`
`15:11.19`	`rdsousa`	`want's the zapata configurations`
`15:11.33`	`rdsousa`	`i should use`
`15:11.33`	`joelsolanki`	`iCEBrkr: i have linksyspap2 both account are configured on same box as it has 2 lines. when calling from 1 line it works and after that using the other it works. but when using both at a time it gives NO compatible codecs. so i guess pass thru support only 1 call at time.`
`15:12.24`	`docelm0`	`I use g729 passthru on my office PBX with 5 stations now..`
`15:12.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`joelsolanki: Ya gotta check your sip.conf to see which codecs are allowed`
`15:12.31`	`docelm0`	`And Im adding 45 more soon..`
`15:12.42`	`SwK[Work]`	`joelsolanki the PAP2 only does G729 on 1 Line ata a time`
`15:12.45`	`mattHelm`	`interesting. I can call using 1 + area code, just not other extensions... Dial plan issue?`
`15:12.55`	`remibreval`	`great great great ! It works now very well !`
`15:13.35`	`remibreval`	`By the way, FWD iax is dead... do you use iax ? Which one ?`
`15:13.53`	`SwK[Work]`	`the PAP2, SPA-200X all will do G729, just on 1 port at any time, the other port will then fall back to G711u`
`15:14.22`	`hellop`	`huh, I fixed it.`
`15:14.34`	`remibreval`	`I mean, with what do you interconnect with RTC (I mean withour any card on computer, because I don't want to pay for regular lines...)`
`15:14.54`	`file`	`SHOUT!`
`15:16.26`	`Qwell`	`hmm, anybody able to get through to 866-241-7682?`
`15:16.45`	`Qwell`	`I'm showing like 100 minutes used on my cell to that number - 1 minute at a time, about 100 times in a day`
`15:17.11`	`Qwell`	`It's giving busy for me...can't figure out what it is`
`15:18.22`	`file`	`dunno who it belongs to`
`15:18.38`	`drumkilla`	`it's file!`
`15:18.40`	`drumkilla`	`he did it!`
`15:18.41`	`file`	`it's drumkilla!`
`15:18.45`	`littleball`	`866-241-7682? China?`
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`15:18.48`	`file`	`no I didn't :( I should have though`
`15:18.55`	`littleball`	`let me try`
`15:19.21`	`littleball`	`Qwell, which country`
`15:19.21`	`littleball`	`?`
`15:19.25`	`Qwell`	`littleball: US`
`15:19.30`	`fugitivo`	`anyone is using Vocal?`
`15:19.37`	`littleball`	`ok. let me try`
`15:20.36`	`Qwell`	`Also a few Morristown, TN, Middletown, OH, and Siler City, NC...wtf`
`15:20.41`	`dave-o`	`question... any idea how to block inbound caller id?`
`15:20.42`	`file`	`what is love, baby don't hurt me`
`15:20.43`	`file`	`no more`
`15:20.56`	`file`	`dave-o: you're very vague, but block it on what?`
`15:21.11`	`Qwell`	`like *67 or whatever?`
`15:21.30`	`joelsolanki`	`iCEBrkr: Swk[Work]: oh but my provider only support g.729 then how can i use linksys pap2. :(`
`15:21.31`	`littleball`	`Qwell, yes`
`15:21.37`	`littleball`	`i can connect`
`15:21.43`	`Qwell`	`littleball: What is it?`
`15:21.47`	`joelsolanki`	`is there any config for that in sip.conf`
`15:21.50`	`iCEBrkr`	`joelsolanki: With asterisk, you'll need a license for each end.`
`15:21.57`	`littleball`	`let me listner again`
`15:22.02`	`Qwell`	`littleball: thanks`
`15:22.03`	`dave-o`	`file, thanks. I have a little network of sip phones. Caller id is turned on from SBC, but on the local network, I'd like to block the phones from having access to that info.`
`15:22.16`	`file`	`dave-o: change the callerid before you dial the phones.`
`15:22.24`	`dave-o`	`hm?`
`15:22.26`	`joelsolanki`	`iCEBrkr: pass thru will not work ?`
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`15:22.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`joelsolanki: dunno what you mean`
`15:22.51`	`{zombie}`	`joelsolanki: you can't pass through if the ATA doesn't support it. as has been pointed out, your ATA only supports g729 once`
`15:22.53`	`file`	`dave-o: you want to block the callerid from getting to the phones, so change it before you dial the phones.`
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`15:23.08`	`{zombie}`	`so if you want to talk g729 twice you will need to have asterisk transcode it for you`
`15:23.12`	`littleball`	`Qwell "please enter your 12 digit numbers"`
`15:23.23`	`littleball`	`i don't know what service it is`
`15:23.26`	`Qwell`	`oh, shit`
`15:23.28`	`{zombie}`	`or buy a sipura 2100 instead, which can do two g729 calls`
`15:23.31`	`Qwell`	`I do...haha`
`15:23.38`	`SwK[Work]`	`joelsolanki: get a $10 G729 license from digium and be done with it`
`15:23.40`	`hellop`	`"Processing configuration... This may take a few tens of minutes."`
`15:23.43`	`dave-o`	`file, I'm not dialing the phones, these are incoming calls.`
`15:23.48`	`joelsolanki`	`hmm ok`
`15:23.49`	`sgerbitz`	`okay I have a silly question, I am trying to setup Asterisk as a VOIP solution for my company, I am wondering what hardware I want need to use`
`15:23.55`	`littleball`	`QWell, your service? what is that?`
`15:24.01`	`joelsolanki`	`so i will have to buy the licenses`
`15:24.07`	`{zombie}`	`dave-o: on the incoming call, you will have asterisk configured to do Dial(SIP/XXX) etc to make the incoming call ring the phone`
`15:24.08`	`Qwell`	`littleball: was helping somebody in this channel with something`
`15:24.11`	`file`	`dave-o: if they're going to the phones... then you have to dial them :)`
`15:24.28`	`dave-o`	`okay.`
`15:24.30`	`{zombie}`	`do a SetCIDNum first`
`15:24.32`	`{zombie}`	`or whatever`
`15:24.45`	`Qwell`	`note to self: In the future, if you help anybody in here, and it requires calling them 100 times...GET PAID FOR IT`
`15:24.59`	`file`	`Qwell: yeah`
`15:25.21`	`drumkilla`	`no more dancing for you!`
`15:25.36`	`file`	`;(`
`15:25.38`	`{zombie}`	`Qwell: or don't call them from your cellphone? :)`
`15:25.49`	`hellop`	`Qwell, you called a number 100 times and forgot?`
`15:25.54`	`Qwell`	`hellop: I did`
`15:25.57`	`littleball`	`what is the tricky here?`
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`15:27.28`	`Qwell`	`awesome, I get charged for calling my voicemail too`
`15:27.32`	`sgerbitz`	`Can someone help me with my inquire`
`15:27.44`	`file`	`Qwell: I'm not surprised`
`15:27.55`	`BigJoe1`	`Hello everyone`
`15:27.57`	`littleball`	`I am thinking whether it is valuable to design a java applet which do IM functions but integrated with asterisk system.`
`15:28.05`	`{zombie}`	`yeah that's normal.. charge people to leave you voicemail, charge you to retrieve it, then charge you to ring them back`
`15:28.09`	`docelm0`	`sgerbitz, depends on call volume.. You can check the wiki for more information`
`15:28.09`	`Qwell`	`file: it should be sprint-sprint usage`
`15:28.45`	`{zombie}`	`win-win for the telcos`
`15:28.59`	`file`	`should be`
`15:29.46`	`sgerbitz`	`docelm0 - we have about 150 lines right now...`
`15:29.57`	`docelm0`	`Analog?`
`15:30.15`	`littleball`	`sgebitz, what services are you providing? 150 channels?`
`15:30.15`	`sgerbitz`	`yes thast analog, but we are going to be switching over to all VOIP`
`15:30.40`	`hellop`	`amazing... everything works.`
`15:30.47`	`sgerbitz`	`littleball - we are going to be doing caller id, and voicemail`
`15:31.04`	`littleball`	`caller id? what is its value?`
`15:31.09`	`docelm0`	`WHOLY SHIT.. Um, can you say PRI???? like 5 of em?`
`15:31.33`	`file`	`analog is silly`
`15:31.34`	`sgerbitz`	`littleball - so we know whos calling..`
`15:31.35`	`file`	`just like drumkilla!`
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`15:31.57`	`littleball`	`sgerbitz, ok.`
`15:32.05`	`docelm0`	`If your going all voip and you have that much you need a beefy server to do it and adequate bandwidth`
`15:32.43`	`littleball`	`sgerbitz, yes, i also want to know how to make the caller id works for voip. can help?`
`15:32.45`	`sgerbitz`	`docelm0 - we have currently dual p3 1.0 ghz, with 512 mb ram and 60 gig hd, for testing to see if it works the way we want`
`15:33.07`	`docelm0`	`Um, for 150 lines Im thinking Daul 3.2 2GB Ram`
`15:33.21`	`sgerbitz`	`docelm0 - how many lines will that server hold`
`15:33.47`	`docelm0`	`probably do 100 or so calls at one time`
`15:33.54`	`sgerbitz`	`ohh okay cool`
`15:34.03`	`sgerbitz`	`what happends if you do moer than that`
`15:34.05`	`sgerbitz`	`does ti crash`
`15:34.21`	`docelm0`	`Might.. I dont know..`
`15:34.45`	`docelm0`	`But I know if you plan to do tons of calls clustering is a better idea`
`15:34.47`	`hellop`	`these chocolate mushrooms are grrrreat`
`15:34.56`	`docelm0`	`Are these voip only calls no TDM?`
`15:34.57`	`littleball`	`docelm0, from digium data, it can be much high . it tested on 256 channels`
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`15:35.20`	`docelm0`	`Yes VOIP only. If your using TDM its much lower`
`15:35.36`	`sgerbitz`	`docelm0 - can I messsage you`
`15:35.43`	`docelm0`	`I dont know can you?`
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`15:36.16`	`hellop`	`Magic 8 ball says,"Ask again later."`
`15:37.27`	`SwK[Work]`	`anyone having deadlock issues with PentiumDs?`
`15:37.41`	`jontow`	`what might one use as a tag to checkout zaptel of a specific 1.0.x release?`
`15:37.41`	`Qwell`	`SwK[Work]: the D stands for deadlock`
`15:37.51`	`SwK[Work]`	`Qwell: yeah it does`
`15:37.54`	`Qwell`	`jontow: releases aren't in cvs, I don't believe.`
`15:38.01`	`jontow`	`they're tagged from cvs, no?`
`15:38.10`	`drumkilla`	`jontow: cvs co -r v1-0-9-2 zaptel`
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`15:38.20`	`Qwell`	`oh, guess they are`
`15:38.24`	`drumkilla`	`:)`
`15:38.35`	`drumkilla`	`that would be the latest release tag`
`15:38.45`	`jontow`	`hmm, does 1.0.3 have a release tag?`
`15:38.50`	`drumkilla`	`it should, yes`
`15:38.51`	`robin_sz`	`OK, so ... imagine I'm stoopid ...`
`15:38.56`	`drumkilla`	`cvs co -r v1-0-3 zaptel`
`15:39.02`	`SwK[Work]`	`this box has nothing but a meetme with 1 participant up and originating a call from a call file causes it to deadlock heh`
`15:39.05`	`jontow`	`:/ thats what i'd guessed and got nowhere a couple minutes ago`
`15:39.07`	`blitzrage`	`drumkilla: I thought you were going away :)`
`15:39.13`	`drumkilla`	`blitzrage: yeah, me too`
`15:39.15`	`drumkilla`	`crap`
`15:39.18`	`blitzrage`	`haha`
`15:39.18`	`robin_sz`	`I have a Eicon Diva card ... and I think its working OK ...`
`15:39.27`	`drumkilla`	`jontow: maybe I forgot the tag on that one ... :/`
`15:39.33`	`robin_sz`	`I can see 4ch with 2 bch eah in capi info ...`
`15:39.36`	`jontow`	`i'll look for it.. go away ;D`
`15:39.36`	`jontow`	`hehehe`
`15:39.37`	`robin_sz`	`sound right?`
`15:40.16`	`robin_sz`	`but my attempts to dial out seem to result in failure ...`
`15:41.17`	`remibreval`	`Can someone just try to ring me to know if it works without IAX ? 7364@sipelia.homeip.net`
`15:42.04`	`jontow`	`AHA! v1-0-3 wasn't tagged!`
`15:42.33`	`jontow`	`v1-0-2 and v1-0-4 was`
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`15:43.42`	`remibreval`	`It doesn't work ?`
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`15:44.16`	`Andrezo`	`hi all`
`15:44.36`	`Andrezo`	`is it ok to ask for cisco firmware here on the channel?`
`15:44.59`	`Andrezo`	`the phone already has sip firmare, but the doc say i need the firmware files anyway`
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`15:46.02`	`Qwell`	`Andrezo: buy a CCO login, and download them from cisco`
`15:46.26`	`file`	`they cost money eh`
`15:46.30`	`Andrezo`	`...`
`15:46.38`	`Andrezo`	`exactly :)`
`15:46.47`	`Qwell`	`Then no, it isn't okay to ask that here`
`15:47.19`	`Andrezo`	`what if i got a CCo, it was ok to ask here?`
`15:47.28`	`justinu`	`lol`
`15:47.30`	`file`	`you'd download it from there.`
`15:47.32`	`file`	`and not have to ask here`
`15:47.33`	`Qwell`	`Andrezo: You'd call cisco at that point`
`15:47.41`	`file`	`because it's illegal for us to give it to you :P`
`15:47.44`	`justinu`	`channel police are in full force i see`
`15:47.46`	`Andrezo`	`yes, i know`
`15:47.51`	`Qwell`	`it's kinda like getting support for vmware in a help channel...`
`15:48.01`	`Qwell`	`The only reason vmware wouldn't help you, is because you pirated it`
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`15:48.17`	`Andrezo`	`qwell, i know, i didn't born yesterday :)`
`15:48.20`	`loud`	`just dcc him the file.`
`15:48.34`	`Qwell`	`bbl`
`15:49.45`	`justinu`	`andrezo, i'll give you cisco software in exchange for polycom ip v1.6`
`15:50.01`	`Andrezo`	`no polycom phones here`
`15:50.16`	`Qwell`	`isn't the polycom firmware free?`
`15:50.16`	`Andrezo`	`just s snom 190, and this new cisc0 7940`
`15:50.31`	`justinu`	`i can't find the 1.6 image on their support site`
`15:50.32`	`Andrezo`	`and i might say, snom firmware sucks`
`15:50.45`	`justinu`	`can't find 1.5 for that matter`
`15:50.58`	`justinu`	`all I really want is their new bootloader so I can to HTTPS provisioning`
`15:51.49`	`Andrezo`	`can't i configure the manually? without using a tftp server?`
`15:52.02`	`Andrezo`	`i already tried pressing **#, nothing...`
`15:52.13`	`Andrezo`	`can't unlock it or something`
`15:52.22`	`loud`	`settings + 9 and put the password.`
`15:52.37`	`loud`	`then you will see an unlock 'lock' and you'll be able to configure it`
`15:52.42`	`loud`	`got the firmware already ?`
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`15:53.38`	`EvilRick`	`I'm running ast@home with a PRI card and am getting the following error on asterisk startup`
`15:53.45`	`EvilRick`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:53.46`	`EvilRick`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:53.46`	`EvilRick`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:53.46`	`EvilRick`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`15:53.58`	`EvilRick`	`I had the card and asterisk running fine under debian`
`15:54.04`	`EvilRick`	`any ideas?`
`15:54.17`	`Andrezo`	`i already set the dhcp server, the phone stops at ProtocolApplication INvalid`
`15:54.39`	`Andrezo`	`settings button + 9, does nothing`
`15:54.46`	`hypa7ia`	`Andrezo: that's a bad firmware load`
`15:55.13`	`hypa7ia`	`your phone may be a very expensive paperweight now`
`15:55.29`	`file`	`it depends`
`15:55.30`	`Andrezo`	`nah, just bought it`
`15:55.39`	`file`	`my phone was a paperweight, but I resurrected it with some tftp magic`
`15:55.56`	`hypa7ia`	`yeah... i've brought them back from PAI too via tftp`
`15:55.56`	`file`	`now it thinks it's a combination SCCP/SIP phone`
`15:55.59`	`hypa7ia`	`but it may be bricked`
`15:56.08`	`hypa7ia`	`file: huh?`
`15:56.17`	`file`	`hypa7ia: don't ask.`
`15:56.27`	`hypa7ia`	`but..but...`
`15:56.48`	`hypa7ia`	`Andrezo: have you booted it successfully before?`
`15:57.33`	`Andrezo`	`no, just got it from beronet`
`15:57.53`	`Andrezo`	`funny, as they don't have them anymore on the site :/`
`15:58.04`	`Andrezo`	`i hear cisco stock on europe was low`
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`15:59.04`	`hypa7ia`	`Andrezo: have you tried to load a firmware on it, or is it just out of the box?`
`15:59.39`	`loud`	`o q tftp vc ta trabalhando ?`
`15:59.53`	`Andrezo`	`hypa7ia, beronet ships the phones with sip firmware`
`16:00.03`	`Andrezo`	`anyway, i just got 7.5 :)`
`16:00.07`	`loud`	`:)`
`16:00.08`	`Andrezo`	`let's see how it goes`
`16:00.11`	`loud`	`load it.`
`16:00.27`	`hypa7ia`	`good plan`
`16:00.35`	`Andrezo`	`loud, tftp-server on centos 4`
`16:01.07`	`Andrezo`	`good memories from working on LTSP installs`
`16:01.23`	`Darwin35`	`what is the latest firmware for the spa-841 ?`
`16:01.52`	`justinu`	`3.1.4 i think`
`16:03.28`	`syle2`	`http://software.sunsaturn.com`
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`16:06.38`	`hellop`	`Do European Wall Warts(230VAC-12VDC adapter) typically have their ouput like American ones? neg on outside, positive on inside of the round connector?`
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`16:11.24`	`_Sam--`	`anyone have an opinion on the Grandstream GXP2000 sip phones?`
`16:11.34`	`justinu`	`i have one`
`16:11.40`	`_Sam--`	`is it ok?`
`16:12.00`	`justinu`	`yeah, it's ok`
`16:12.08`	`justinu`	`you have any specific questions?`
`16:12.28`	`_Sam--`	`not really, just wondering if they've been decent phones....does it have 6 line appearances?`
`16:12.51`	`justinu`	`4`
`16:12.56`	`_Sam--`	`do you wish you had a different phone?`
`16:13.03`	`justinu`	`for the money, it's fine`
`16:13.09`	`justinu`	`the buttons are better than the sipura`
`16:13.17`	`justinu`	`but the software running on the phone kinda sucks`
`16:13.20`	`justinu`	`no missed call display`
`16:13.25`	`justinu`	`no placed call display`
`16:13.53`	`justinu`	`they say you can download custom ringtones, but I can't figure out how to do it... no instructions in the manual`
`16:14.05`	`_Sam--`	`you've never had any problems with it not working right, or agetting any interference or any other funky behaviour?`
`16:14.09`	`justinu`	`no, it works`
`16:14.25`	`{zombie}`	`justinu: there's a utility on their website to convert the ringtone`
`16:14.30`	`justinu`	`i saw that`
`16:14.34`	`{zombie}`	`then you put that ringtone in your tftpserver's directory`
`16:14.35`	`justinu`	`couldn't get that to work either`
`16:14.38`	`{zombie}`	`and point the phone at your tftp server`
`16:14.49`	`justinu`	`they wrote it so you need to have .net runtime`
`16:14.50`	`justinu`	`wtf?`
`16:14.55`	`{zombie}`	`eh?`
`16:14.59`	`{zombie}`	`it's a linux utility`
`16:15.04`	`{zombie}`	`hacked version of sox`
`16:15.07`	`justinu`	`oh, the sox thing`
`16:15.43`	`{zombie}`	`yeah`
`16:16.02`	`justinu`	`the default ringtone is stupid... north american ringback tone`
`16:16.40`	`justinu`	`if I could have the sipura software on the gxp2000, i'd be happy`
`16:17.10`	`{zombie}`	`yeah.. sipura spa841 has great software, crappy hardware.. gxp2000 seems to be the opposite`
`16:17.22`	`justinu`	`agreed`
`16:18.05`	`{zombie}`	`snom seem to make the best phones all 'round`
`16:18.10`	`{zombie}`	`just too damn expensive`
`16:18.15`	`justinu`	`i'm supposed to be getting one soon`
`16:18.20`	`{zombie}`	`gxp2000 is best bang for buck it seems`
`16:18.29`	`justinu`	`i have a polycom ip501, and it's fine, but it takes forever to startup`
`16:18.36`	`justinu`	`10meg software image... talk about bloat`
`16:18.45`	`{zombie}`	`I've yet to see a polycom`
`16:18.56`	`{zombie}`	`they don't seem too popular this end of the world`
`16:19.01`	`justinu`	`which end is that?`
`16:19.09`	`{zombie}`	`western australia`
`16:19.12`	`justinu`	`ah`
`16:19.31`	`justinu`	`it's built really nicely, sounds great.... and they cost 170 usd`
`16:20.09`	`{zombie}`	`cool`
`16:20.25`	`justinu`	`what do snom 360s cost you there?`
`16:21.01`	`justinu`	`we're also supposed to be getting an aastra 480i in the lab soon`
`16:21.50`	`{zombie}`	`AU$395 for the snom360`
`16:21.53`	`{zombie}`	`(about $300 US)`
`16:22.04`	`justinu`	`yeah`
`16:22.07`	`justinu`	`they're about 240 here`
`16:22.24`	`justinu`	`aastra 480i's are 200 i think`
`16:23.57`	`docelm0`	`I have 5 GXP2000's now I am getting 45 more soon. They work fine for my office. There is some new code coming out for them. So should be interesting`
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`16:24.30`	`justinu`	`yeah... they had the beta code running on phones at astricon`
`16:24.46`	`{zombie}`	`would be nice if the GXP2000s could use the LEDs for showing when people are on a call (hint function), like the Snoms do`
`16:24.47`	`justinu`	`docelm0: you ever notice that the dial tone sounds choppy on them?`
`16:25.00`	`{zombie}`	`I think there was a rumour it was a planned feature`
`16:25.09`	`justinu`	`yeah, bridged line appearances`
`16:25.14`	`justinu`	`we saw it at astricon, zombie`
`16:25.27`	`docelm0`	`No. Audio is fine`
`16:25.28`	`{zombie}`	`really? cool`
`16:25.55`	`justinu`	`my gxp2000 has some problems... when you hit speaker and sit there and listen to the locally generated dial tone, it sounds choppy`
`16:26.06`	`justinu`	`like an RTP stream losing packets`
`16:26.12`	`justinu`	`but it's locally generated`
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`16:31.48`	`iCEBrkr`	`Signalling requested on channel 1 is FXS Loopstart but line is in Unknown signalling 896 signalling`
`16:31.54`	`iCEBrkr`	`anything else?!!?`
`16:33.12`	`TommyTheKid`	`iCEBrkr: are you always here ? :)`
`16:33.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`TommyTheKid: always.`
`16:34.18`	`iCEBrkr`	`TommyTheKid: I mostly lurk, but lately I've been an active participant in channel discussions/help :)`
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`16:36.14`	`TommyTheKid`	`have a question about SIP.. I am trying to send something to a server and its redirecting me to Local/+1XXXNXXXXXX@default .. uh which is not exactly what I am looking for.. the SIP response has the long-ish phone number@someip .. I found that promiscredir seems to allow that to work and actually stay "sip" .. but .. I had to enable it globally .. IS THAT BAD? How would I do that for just that host? :)`
`16:36.52`	`TommyTheKid`	`promiscredir just sounds bad :)`
`16:37.09`	`justinu`	`i don't think there's a way to do it for just one sip peer yet`
`16:37.29`	`TommyTheKid`	`justinu: thats good.. then at least I am not grazy ;)`
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`16:37.39`	`TommyTheKid`	`crazy .. at least re this :)`
`16:38.47`	`justinu`	`i think you're right to be concerened though`
`16:39.09`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: What's up?`
`16:40.13`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damin: HEEEEEEEEEELP`
`16:40.13`	`docelm0`	`justinu you having problems with GXP2000 droping registration?`
`16:40.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`:)`
`16:40.28`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damin: This stupid T1 isn't a PRI, the guy called it PFS.`
`16:40.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`WTF that means.. I dunno`
`16:40.43`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: Never heard of it.`
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`16:40.50`	`TommyTheKid`	`that wa fun`
`16:40.50`	`iCEBrkr`	`Me either.`
`16:40.57`	`TommyTheKid`	`now I have a stupid loop :)`
`16:40.58`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: What was it ordered as?`
`16:41.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`HE said something about AMIFS`
`16:41.20`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: AMI/D4?`
`16:41.26`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damin: I dunno, whoever ordered it, ordered the same T1 we had previously for our Dialogic cards.`
`16:41.35`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damin: All 24 channels are used, no D-Channel`
`16:41.35`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: Tell them to cancel it.`
`16:41.38`	`iCEBrkr`	`:)`
`16:41.39`	`justinu`	`AMI/SF`
`16:41.41`	`iCEBrkr`	`May have to.`
`16:41.43`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: Yea, that`
`16:41.44`	`justinu`	`vs. EFS`
`16:41.49`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: That's a channelized T1. Not PRI..`
`16:42.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`Ahh ok, that sounds more familiar`
`16:42.20`	`justinu`	`alternate mark inversion/super frame`
`16:42.28`	`Damin`	`That's fucked..`
`16:42.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damin: Agreed.`
`16:42.33`	`justinu`	`old school`
`16:42.37`	`Damin`	`SHould have ordered B8ZS/ESF...`
`16:42.43`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: This place IS old school.`
`16:42.45`	`Damin`	`AMI is only 56k / channel, right?`
`16:42.47`	`Flauto`	`hi there`
`16:42.54`	`Flauto`	`can i ask a question`
`16:42.59`	`iCEBrkr`	`Flauto: Just ask :P`
`16:43.05`	`justinu`	`correct, they rob 8k/channel for the signalling bits`
`16:43.11`	`Flauto`	`thanks`
`16:43.17`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: bit-robbing or whatever it's called.`
`16:43.19`	`iCEBrkr`	`right?`
`16:43.22`	`Damin`	`justinu: Does Digium hardware even support AMI?`
`16:43.29`	`justinu`	`no idea`
`16:43.32`	`Flauto`	`my asterisk is show this message, Asked to transmit frame type 4, while native formats is 512 (read/write = 512/512)`
`16:43.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`:-/`
`16:43.45`	`file[laptop]`	`I'm losing my touch`
`16:43.48`	`file[laptop]`	`I can't remember what 512 is`
`16:43.54`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: Tell them to cancel it and re-provision as B8ZS/ESF clear channel..`
`16:43.57`	`justinu`	`i think it does, because some of those FXO/FXS channel banks use it`
`16:44.10`	`Damin`	`Flauto: Codec Mismatch. Fix it.`
`16:44.15`	`file[laptop]`	`4 is ulaw, 512 is... speex`
`16:44.19`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damin: Yeah, that way I half-way know what I'm dealing with`
`16:44.24`	`Flauto`	`how should i do it. damin`
`16:44.27`	`file[laptop]`	`god no wonder I had no clue, I don't use speex`
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`16:44.29`	`justinu`	`but yeah, if you can get a PRI, by all means, do it.`
`16:44.41`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: If you can get PRI, get it. You'll get D channel signalling + disconnect supervision and a bunch of other crap that is nice..`
`16:44.56`	`justinu`	`you can play UUI games with jtodd`
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`16:45.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damin: I wonder if that's the problem with our old system and the dialogic cards.. :P THey have all sorts of issues with it`
`16:45.06`	`file[laptop]`	`PRIs are good`
`16:45.12`	`Flauto`	`damin, would you tell me how to fix it?`
`16:45.15`	`file[laptop]`	`very very tasty`
`16:45.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`Hence, the reason for looking into Asterisk`
`16:45.18`	`Flauto`	`where should i go to fix it`
`16:45.18`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: You'll sacrafice 1 channel, but you'll get all sorts of benefits that will make it worthwhile in the long run. Like trunks that won't get fucked up w/ the Wink is missed..`
`16:45.22`	`justinu`	`icebrkr: the problem is the dialogic cards :)`
`16:45.33`	`Damin`	`Flauto: Fix your codec configuration on both sides.`
`16:45.33`	`justinu`	`i wrote dialogic code for years, and those things suck major ass`
`16:45.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: Well, that too.`
`16:45.50`	`justinu`	`especially their ISDN stack... what a fucking joke`
`16:45.53`	`syle2`	`for people that wanted to know status of the module I am working on http://software.sunsaturn.com, i know I said I would release v1.0 tommorrow, but it looks like next week now`
`16:45.54`	`Flauto`	`Damin, how can i do it? would you tell me?`
`16:46.05`	`justinu`	`flauto: disallow=all`
`16:46.07`	`justinu`	`allow=gsm`
`16:46.13`	`justinu`	`or allow=ulaw`
`16:46.14`	`justinu`	`whatever`
`16:46.21`	`Flauto`	`under iax?`
`16:46.25`	`Damin`	`Flauto: You can do it by editing config files. If you haven't read the documentation at asteriskdocs.org, then spend an hour or two there first.`
`16:46.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: I've had a long history of problems with Dialogic cards, Every company I've worked for that used Dialogic cards had to buy new ones almost each year.`
`16:46.56`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: So.. dude.. You need to cancel that T1 and get a PRI over B8ZS/ESF...`
`16:47.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damin: Yup`
`16:47.11`	`iCEBrkr`	`It'll save me the headaches`
`16:47.20`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: Tell them you want NI-2 signalling on the PRI..`
`16:47.32`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: And if they give you any shit, slap em..`
`16:48.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damin: hehe, you mean, "NEXT provider please.."`
`16:48.20`	`syle2`	`NI-2?`
`16:48.24`	`justinu`	`who is it?`
`16:48.25`	`Flauto`	`justinu, i already did it at the beginning in iax.conf`
`16:48.25`	`justinu`	`clec?`
`16:48.38`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: Time-Warner`
`16:48.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: My thoughts exactly.`
`16:49.06`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: Who is your ILEC down there?`
`16:49.14`	`justinu`	`were you the one saying they were gonna charge you something like 500 bucks for a change order?`
`16:49.14`	`iCEBrkr`	`TW's DNS servers constantly time out.. It's a bullshit provider.`
`16:49.35`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: Aren't you in Bell South territory?`
`16:49.36`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: Dunno if it was me, but yea, that's about right.`
`16:49.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damin: Yea..`
`16:49.44`	`justinu`	`flauto: are you using sip phones?`
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`16:49.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`Tampa/St. Pete`
`16:50.27`	`Flauto`	`i am using sipura spa 300`
`16:50.39`	`justinu`	`then you need to put it into sip.conf also`
`16:50.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`Welp, I'm gonna move on to other things, I can still use VoIP for testing...`
`16:51.37`	`Connor-`	`The use of '_.' for an extension is strongly discouraged and can have unexpected behavior. Please use '_X.' instead`
`16:51.52`	`Connor-`	`what exactly is the unexpected behavior?`
`16:52.22`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: Yeah.. get a Bell South PRI..`
`16:52.36`	`pointer`	`anyone around that's familiar with libpri/zaptel and specifically d-channel signaling?`
`16:52.39`	`Damin`	`iCEBrkr: Tell them the price that Time Warner gave you, minus 20% and tell them to match it..`
`16:52.43`	`Damin`	`pointer: Shoot..`
`16:52.49`	`Damin`	`pointer: I have 2 minutes..`
`16:53.07`	`pointer`	`Damin: I'm trying to interconnect * with a coppercom`
`16:53.20`	`pointer`	`Damin: I'm doing national2`
`16:53.26`	`Damin`	`pointer: NI2... good..`
`16:53.36`	`Damin`	`pointer: And?`
`16:53.48`	`pointer`	`Damin: dialing from coppercom -> asterisk we get fast busy`
`16:54.00`	`Damin`	`pointer: Does the PRI come up on both sides?`
`16:54.07`	`pointer`	`Damin: if we plug the same pri from dms100 -> asterisk it works fine`
`16:54.11`	`pointer`	`Damin: yup`
`16:54.19`	`Damin`	`pointer: Digium card?`
`16:54.33`	`pointer`	`Damin: coppercom is claiming that * isn't sending the right setup message(s)`
`16:54.43`	`pointer`	`Damin: yes 4 port T1 c ard`
`16:54.50`	`pointer`	`Damin: here's what coppercom said`
`16:54.51`	`Damin`	`pointer: What version of Asterisk? CVS Head? or Stable?`
`16:54.55`	`pointer`	`Coppercom says that the asterisk should send an alerting and connect or just connect after the coppercom send the setup message`
`16:55.02`	`pointer`	`Damin: I tried cvs 1_0 stable`
`16:55.09`	`pointer`	`Damin: and just tried 1.2 beta1`
`16:55.12`	`justinu`	`so what is asterisk sending?`
`16:55.25`	`pointer`	`CC sends a setup message`
`16:55.25`	`pointer`	`Asterisk sends a setup acknowledge`
`16:55.25`	`pointer`	`Asterisk send a connect message`
`16:55.26`	`pointer`	`CC sends connect acknowledge`
`16:55.41`	`justinu`	`sounds find to me`
`16:55.43`	`Damin`	`pointer: You will want to open a bug on bugs.digium.com under the libpri stuff, and then call Digium.`
`16:55.44`	`justinu`	`fine`
`16:55.55`	`pointer`	`sorry, I'm not intimately familiar with pri signaling :-\`
`16:56.11`	`pointer`	`Damin: okies`
`16:56.13`	`Damin`	`pointer: You'll want to enable "pri intense debug" on the Asterisk console and capture that..`
`16:56.36`	`Damin`	`pointer: Also.. try updating to TODAY'S CVS HEAD..`
`16:56.45`	`justinu`	`there's another option that can affect the way asterisk repsonds too... something about alwayssendprogress=yes?`
`16:56.48`	`Damin`	`pointer: There have been some libpri fixes since 1.2beta was dropped..`
`16:56.51`	`pointer`	`Damin: ok, I'll try todays cvs head first`
`16:57.07`	`Damin`	`pointer: And look into what Justinu said..`
`16:57.11`	`Damin`	`pointer: I've got to run!`
`16:57.13`	`pointer`	`Damin: the messages were captured with a test set`
`16:57.17`	`pointer`	`Damin/justinu: thanks`
`16:57.24`	`justinu`	`i can help you with that traces`
`16:57.29`	`justinu`	`i know q931 too well`
`16:57.40`	`Damin`	`pointer: Yeah, but pri intense debug shows you how asterisk responds internally too..`
`16:58.08`	`Damin`	`pointer: I know there were at least 3 libpri patches submitted to CVS in the past two weeks..`
`16:58.18`	`Damin`	`pointer: One of them was related to q931 signalling..`
`16:58.37`	`justinu`	`there was also some issues in the chan_sip/pri interworking I pointed out to kevin at astricon`
`16:58.41`	`justinu`	`dunno if they did anything about that`
`16:59.06`	`pointer`	`hrm`
`16:59.15`	`justinu`	`specifically that in chan_sip, they were treating call_proceeding and progress as the same thing, which isn't the case`
`16:59.17`	`pointer`	`alwayssendprogress goes in zapata?`
`16:59.33`	`justinu`	`not sure about that, pointer... i don't have intimate knowledge of zaptel/pri stuff`
`16:59.43`	`justinu`	`i just know how q931 works generically`
`16:59.54`	`pointer`	`justinu: understood`
`17:00.21`	`justinu`	`try searching on voip-info.org?`
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`17:00.52`	`pointer`	`justinu: nothing`
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`17:01.09`	`dos000`	`whats the price on the new 24 port analog cards ?`
`17:01.20`	`pointer`	`I'll try cvs head`
`17:02.16`	`mishehu`	`ACK! Segfault!`
`17:02.28`	`justinu`	`fun with pointers`
`17:02.37`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damin: Yea, we're looking for ( obviously ) the cheapest PRI we can get as far as outbound calls are concerned. :P`
`17:02.53`	`mishehu`	`pointer: first class ticket, please.`
`17:02.59`	`pointer`	`mishehu: hehe`
`17:03.24`	`pointer`	`mishehu: I finally got a decent switch`
`17:03.28`	`pointer`	`mishehu: 2 of these`
`17:03.56`	`mishehu`	`pointer: looking at scrollback, you guys having problems with your pri's?`
`17:03.59`	`bon`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:03.59`	`bon`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:04.04`	`pointer`	`mishehu: http://www.force10networks.com/products/s-series_overview.asp`
`17:04.04`	`bon`	`this is not good, is it? :)`
`17:04.16`	`pointer`	`mishehu: 2 of the S50s with L3 code`
`17:04.36`	`pointer`	`mishehu: only when terminating on a coppercom softswitch`
`17:04.46`	`justinu`	`lets see those PRI traces`
`17:04.49`	`justinu`	`pastebin them or something`
`17:05.04`	`justinu`	`i'm waiting for level3 to reconfig some stuff for interop testing`
`17:05.06`	`justinu`	`nothing better to do`
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`17:05.43`	`mishehu`	`pointer: how much is one of those puppies?`
`17:06.05`	`pointer`	`mishehu: ask me on the phone later`
`17:06.25`	`pointer`	`justinu: okies....want the debug with 1.2beta1 or cvs-head?`
`17:06.56`	`pointer`	`justinu: I'll need to compile cvs if you want to go that way`
`17:06.59`	`justinu`	`either one, or both`
`17:07.00`	`justinu`	`up to you`
`17:07.03`	`Darwin35`	`anyone here know the latest firmware for the spa-841 ?`
`17:07.11`	`mishehu`	`pointer: or how about while smacking you around a bit in urban terror3?`
`17:07.13`	`justinu`	`darwin35: again.... i think it's 3.1.4`
`17:07.29`	`Darwin35`	`where can I find it they have not emailed me or called`
`17:07.47`	`justinu`	`they have it on their site`
`17:08.22`	`justinu`	`http://www.sipura.com/Documents/spa841-3.1.4a.zip`
`17:08.24`	`justinu`	`see how nice I am?`
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`17:09.40`	`stbain`	`greetings all`
`17:12.02`	`pointer`	`justinu: can I /msg you a url?`
`17:12.09`	`stbain`	`My brother-in-law's voicemail server at his office crapped out on him, and his ears perked up when I mentioned Asterisk interfacing with his existing Mitel PBX. I'm reading the handbook now, but noticed that there is voicemail web app in the ubuntu package list (no URL listed for it though). Other than the handbook, is there any particular documentation I should be reading to build his new voicemail server?`
`17:12.30`	`justinu`	`yeah, sure`
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`17:14.27`	`Darwin35`	`ok got it`
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`17:15.06`	`Darwin35`	`now being this is my first update . how do yu update from bsd/linux these phones or do you have to use windows`
`17:15.34`	`justinu`	`there's a way to make them update via TFTP or HTTP, iirc`
`17:15.39`	`justinu`	`read the docs`
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`17:20.02`	`stoffell`	`stbain, use voip-info.org to find voicemail resources, a lot is available`
`17:20.19`	`stbain`	`thanks, stoffell. I'll check it out`
`17:20.55`	`lesouvage`	`exten => 3,1,Dial(Zap/1/0612345678,5,r) is the extension I use to call my cellphone. When I don't pick up the line within 5 seconds the idea is to go to the next prioroty. For some reason this doesn't work. The phone rings until the vociemenu of my telco starts. Is this suppose to work or am I doing something wrong?`
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`17:21.31`	`lo_tech`	`hello to the peoples`
`17:24.20`	`stoffell`	`lesouvage, you could first try it on an internal extension, to see if that works?`
`17:24.27`	`lesouvage`	`exten => 3,3,Dial(IAX2/tripple-o@voop/0031612345678,5,r) does work. After 5 seconds it jumps to the next priority`
`17:25.14`	`stoffell`	`hm, and trying it wihout the ,r parameter?`
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`17:28.18`	`lesouvage`	`stoffell: I will try and check other parameters. But it is kind a strange and I really need a solution.`
`17:30.37`	`stoffell`	`lesouvage; indeed, let us know how it works out;`
`17:30.57`	`Katty`	`hi lads.`
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`17:35.49`	`kimosabe`	`what type of ip phone is good with qos and affordable ?? is the granstream better than sipura ??`
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`17:36.17`	`justinu`	`grandstream has nicer button feel`
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`17:36.23`	`justinu`	`sipura has nicer software`
`17:36.31`	`BigJoe1`	`hello everyone`
`17:36.39`	`IronHelix`	`havent used the sipura, but i use a grandstream 2000 as my main desk phone and im pretty happy with it`
`17:37.00`	`IronHelix`	`no on hook dialing (sucks) and the LEDs next to the speed dial buttons do nothing (yet)`
`17:37.16`	`mishehu`	`I donno, I like the polly coms`
`17:37.21`	`IronHelix`	`i am told (by grandstream) they are working on the next software version which will enable snom style hint LEDs`
`17:37.23`	`justinu`	`no missedcalls or placed call display`
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`17:37.36`	`stoffell`	`kimosabe; only know grandstream, use it as main phone, but is more prone to errors (much cheaper design i guess, but looks very prof..)`
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`17:37.43`	`IronHelix`	`which should be around 'hopefully near the end of october' (as of beginning of oct)`
`17:38.00`	`BigJoe1`	`argh just strange my network here is still really bad...`
`17:38.04`	`stoffell`	`IronHelix; that is the rumour yes, let's all hope it'll be correct this time :)`
`17:38.06`	`pointer`	`mishehu: me too`
`17:38.27`	`mishehu`	`pointer: I should make my ringer be a parrot`
`17:38.36`	`mishehu`	`unfortunately for that, my parrot is rather quiet.`
`17:38.37`	`IronHelix`	`polycom has a nice speakerphone, but i hear they are (as a company) not very nice about the concept of asterisk`
`17:38.37`	`pointer`	`mishehu: to piss off your bird?`
`17:38.43`	`Katty`	`mishehu: yay, mishehu`
`17:38.57`	`pointer`	`IronHelix: nope, they don't support asterisk`
`17:39.05`	`mishehu`	`pointer: my parrot rarely gets pissed off, but when she does she can do real damage with that beak of hers`
`17:39.12`	`stoffell`	`polycom is not very easy to get a hold on in Belgium..`
`17:39.13`	`mishehu`	`Kitty Katty`
`17:39.23`	`Katty`	`mishehu: i know you want to help me move to chicago`
`17:39.31`	`justinu`	`helix: apparently that's changed`
`17:39.39`	`mishehu`	`Katty: it's warmer down where you live I bet.`
`17:39.40`	`Katty`	`mishehu: can you lift a couch?`
`17:39.42`	`justinu`	`they announced at astricon that polycom is officially supporting asterisk`
`17:39.44`	`BigJoe1`	`IronHelix but they are one of the best phones and do work fine with asterisk`
`17:39.45`	`IronHelix`	`interesting`
`17:39.52`	`Katty`	`mishehu: probably`
`17:39.55`	`IronHelix`	`true, wasnt disputing that`
`17:39.59`	`IronHelix`	`they make great HW`
`17:40.08`	`Connor-`	`I thought DBput was depreciated, why is it still in 1.2Beta?`
`17:40.08`	`Katty`	`mishehu: The current temperature in Cape Girardeau, Missouri (63701) is 57�F`
`17:40.12`	`justinu`	`my only complain is the rediculously long bootup time`
`17:40.13`	`mishehu`	`Katty: just wait til mid january, you'll wish you never stepped foot in chicago. ;-)`
`17:40.16`	`justinu`	`the sipura starts instantly`
`17:40.21`	`Katty`	`mishehu: pfft.`
`17:40.21`	`justinu`	`grandstream takes about 10 seconds`
`17:40.23`	`stoffell`	`I also hear a lot of good things on snom ?`
`17:40.25`	`justinu`	`polycom is like 2 minutes`
`17:40.45`	`Katty`	`mishehu: do you know it's going to cost me 5 grand to move?`
`17:40.45`	`IronHelix`	`snom are great, and you can use hint extension for presence LEDs`
`17:40.57`	`mishehu`	`Katty: how much stuff do you have?`
`17:41.19`	`mishehu`	`I don't think that it cost that much to move my sister's stuff to montana where she serves...`
`17:41.47`	`stoffell`	`does snom or polycom have any licensing issues like cisco does with the sip images?`
`17:41.59`	`justinu`	`you can't just download the images off their site`
`17:42.05`	`justinu`	`gotta go thru an authorized reseller`
`17:42.08`	`BigJoe1`	`stoffell no`
`17:42.11`	`mishehu`	`stoffell: donno about snom, but polycom isn't nearly as restrictive as cisco`
`17:42.29`	`IronHelix`	`cisco is the worst`
`17:42.32`	`IronHelix`	`i avoid cisco if i can`
`17:42.37`	`mishehu`	`there's a guy who has a link to firmwares for polycoms on voip-info.`
`17:42.42`	`MicC_`	`General question for the crowd. I want to have 2 * boxes and load balance 40 phones accross both. I want * A to be failover for the phones on * B. This part works fine. In a failover however phones from the failed box are down until they reregister to the new server. Any recommendations?`
`17:42.45`	`IronHelix`	`imho you shouldnt have to pay $200 just to dl a firmware`
`17:42.49`	`stoffell`	`that's a big + for grandstream, but you can't compare it to others..`
`17:43.10`	`stoffell`	`snom is also no pay to download?`
`17:43.13`	`mishehu`	`stoffell: I personally would never use a grandstream in a professional environment...`
`17:43.19`	`mattHelm`	`This mean anything important?: CDR on channel 'SIP/402-11f7' not posted`
`17:43.26`	`ender`	`freedomphones has the polycom firmwares.`
`17:43.33`	`mattHelm`	`How about this: CDR on channel 'SIP/402-11f7' lacks end`
`17:43.40`	`IronHelix`	`mattHelm- not if you dont use CDR`
`17:44.13`	`mishehu`	`Katty: I didn't mean to compile an inventory of your stuff for me... heh.`
`17:44.22`	`mishehu`	`I don't need to have a manifest. ;-)`
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`17:45.12`	`Katty`	`mishehu: oh.`
`17:45.14`	`mattHelm`	`MicC: virtual interfaces on your eth 0`
`17:45.16`	`IronHelix`	`for those that want fw- http://www.snom.com/firmware.html and polycom you need a login`
`17:45.23`	`IronHelix`	`or you have to be a reseller / itsp`
`17:45.23`	`syzygyBSD`	`how can i adjust the volume of Zap channels? They are a bit quieter then the SIP I have`
`17:45.29`	`IronHelix`	`(why do companies do this dumb bullshit)`
`17:45.35`	`mishehu`	`Katty: I just meant, is it a lot or a little, just a rough idea of why it would be 5k`
`17:45.37`	`Katty`	`mishehu: queen sized bed, 3 book shelves, kitchen table and chairs, huge computer desk, plus more`
`17:45.38`	`fugitivo`	`syzygyBSD: rxgain and txgain`
`17:45.40`	`IronHelix`	`syzygyBSD in yuor zap conf file check txgain and rxgain`
`17:45.46`	`syzygyBSD`	`doh, need to read the page I had open at the time`
`17:45.49`	`Katty`	`mishehu: it's a flat, with one bedroom.`
`17:45.50`	`syzygyBSD`	`Thanks`
`17:45.56`	`stoffell`	`oh, so for snom it's free, big plus...`
`17:45.57`	`Katty`	`mishehu: like 4 rooms though`
`17:46.06`	`Katty`	`mishehu: it's not a studio`
`17:46.17`	`Aughey`	`IronHelix: what's the range for rxgain and txgain. I've changed them quite a bit without any noticable change`
`17:46.19`	`Katty`	`mishehu: and it's a flat, which is bigger than an apartment`
`17:46.19`	`mattHelm`	`MicC: pbx01 and pbx02 have real IP addresses on their eth.`
`17:46.23`	`mishehu`	`Katty: I'd have gotten a 20ft rental truck... to pay people to load and unload it is much much less...`
`17:46.33`	`mattHelm`	`Then they have a virtual address that they share.`
`17:46.41`	`Katty`	`mishehu: i already got a price quote.`
`17:46.46`	`Katty`	`mishehu: they want to charge me a grand to get my stuff up there`
`17:46.55`	`IronHelix`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+x100p+echotraining use that procedure to calibrate your cards for analog lines`
`17:47.14`	`mattHelm`	`MicC: nevermind, that prob wouldn't work either.`
`17:47.18`	`mishehu`	`Katty: that's not too bad for the transport itself... is your furniture worth more than 5k?`
`17:47.21`	`Katty`	`mishehu: i'd rather pay someone i know and let them benefit than pay another company`
`17:47.27`	`Katty`	`mishehu: hmm.`
`17:47.31`	`ender`	`what is a SIP 500 internal server error?`
`17:47.31`	`Katty`	`mishehu: probably close to that anyway`
`17:47.43`	`Katty`	`mishehu: well, no, i take that back`
`17:47.50`	`stoffell`	`what's the license key thingie on snom anyway??`
`17:47.52`	`Katty`	`mishehu: my sleigh bed cost about 5 grand.`
`17:48.18`	`Katty`	`mishehu: so probably about 10 grand`
`17:48.23`	`Aughey`	`IronHelix: it doesn't say exactly how the gains effect the final output. I'm looking for a number that would, say, double the gain.`
`17:48.50`	`IronHelix`	`the numbers as i recall can go up to either +15/-15 or +100/-100`
`17:48.52`	`IronHelix`	`i forget which`
`17:48.56`	`IronHelix`	`also`
`17:49.00`	`stoffell`	`i think 100/-100`
`17:49.08`	`IronHelix`	`for these to apply you must restart (NOT reload) asterisk`
`17:49.15`	`Aughey`	`ok`
`17:49.20`	`IronHelix`	`so to make a change apply you do restart now and then reconnect to console`
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`17:52.55`	`Ikarus`	`blah, this will be the dial-plan from hell, grmbl`
`17:53.21`	`stoffell`	`666 for the directory`
`17:53.42`	`Ikarus`	`stoffell: no, that is my extension`
`17:53.50`	`stoffell`	`bofh ;)`
`17:53.56`	`morale`	`anyone know how to get fwdtel working? when i call all of the extensions they have setup for testing it just rings and rings..`
`17:54.15`	`syzygyBSD`	`ono we have a bofh?`
`17:54.15`	`Ikarus`	`stoffell: then I would list 666 as my extension and redirect it to a talking clock`
`17:54.56`	`Ikarus`	`syzygyBSD: considering with what I got stuck with in terms of connections, there is a real anger to managment`
`17:55.50`	`Ikarus`	`I have 2x BRI and 1x analog, 3 incoming phone numbers, 3 outgoing phones that HAVE to use a specific BRI (due to number reporting), and more mess`
`17:56.18`	`stoffell`	`Ikarus, ow.. i understand your anger..`
`17:56.24`	`stoffell`	`Ikarus, what bri card you're using?`
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`17:56.43`	`Ikarus`	`stoffell: no idea, I still have to obtain those, temporarily using a old HFC chipset card`
`17:56.56`	`Ikarus`	`stoffell: prolly going for 2 Sitecom budget cards`
`17:57.41`	`stoffell`	`Ikarus, the dc-105 ?`
`17:57.51`	`Katty`	`mishehu: keep your eyes open and let me know if there's a techy job opening? (=`
`17:57.55`	`Ikarus`	`stoffell: yes`
`17:58.04`	`Katty`	`mishehu: don't take this the wrong way, but i don't want to work for you ;>`
`17:58.10`	`Ikarus`	`stoffell: they seem decent and not of such a price my boss will kill me`
`17:58.22`	`mishehu`	`Katty: we'll see. I've never interviewed you before. ;-)`
`17:58.36`	`stoffell`	`Ikarus, no experience with them, I bought a quadBRI from junghanss, but would like to know the echo-reliability of others :-)`
`17:58.43`	`Katty`	`mishehu: ha. interview.`
`17:58.58`	`Ikarus`	`stoffell: well, considering it is ISDN, it should be decent anyway`
`17:58.59`	`Katty`	`mishehu: you mean i sit there while you interigate me like some convict? :P`
`17:59.06`	`mishehu`	`Katty: hey, business is business, and casual talk is casual talk. ;-)`
`17:59.15`	`Katty`	`mishehu: i should dress girly ;>`
`17:59.19`	`mishehu`	`Katty: no, like a terrorist`
`17:59.22`	`stoffell`	`Ikarus; that's what I thought also :p`
`17:59.35`	`mishehu`	`not a criminal`
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`17:59.42`	`Katty`	`Katty: how do you talk to a terrorist?`
`17:59.44`	`Katty`	`oh`
`18:00.56`	`Katty`	`^- mishehu`
`18:00.56`	`Katty`	`mishehu: i'm apparently talking to myself today.`
`18:00.56`	`mishehu`	`Katty: no promises, but there might be an opening coming up.`
`18:00.56`	`Katty`	`mishehu: i'm a pen thief`
`18:00.56`	`ard`	`Is anyone here using dundi?`
`18:00.57`	`Ikarus`	`stoffell: anyway, I'll need to get a basic test out before christmas then somewhere around the holidays temporarily take all phones down and do the switch`
`18:00.57`	`Katty`	`mishehu: does it involve voIP?`
`18:00.57`	`mishehu`	`Katty: I don't write by hand anymore, only coputer and wacom tablet! hah!`
`18:00.57`	`Katty`	`mishehu: yay!`
`18:00.57`	`mishehu`	`Katty: yes, it does.`
`18:00.57`	`Katty`	`mishehu: wait.`
`18:00.57`	`Katty`	`mishehu: that means there's no pens to chew on there? :<`
`18:00.57`	`Katty`	`DOOM`
`18:01.06`	`stoffell`	`Ikarus, that'll work i suppose, fun project I'd say..`
`18:01.06`	`mishehu`	`Katty: no, but granola bars instead... chocolate chip ones.`
`18:01.12`	`Katty`	`mishehu: sorry, i can't work for a company that doesn't have pens to gnaw on`
`18:01.16`	`mishehu`	`I eat those for breakfast all the time.`
`18:01.22`	`Katty`	`mishehu: yeah /non/ vegan ones :<`
`18:01.23`	`mishehu`	`Katty: you can byop`
`18:01.25`	`Katty`	`mishehu: pens are vegan!`
`18:01.34`	`Katty`	`mishehu: byop?`
`18:01.42`	`mishehu`	`bring your own pen`
`18:01.44`	`Ikarus`	`stoffell: I wish I could get a more decent line from my telco, maybe atleast so that it doesn't matter which BRI I would use outgoing (the analog line is a spare)`
`18:01.44`	`Katty`	`ooh`
`18:01.51`	`Katty`	`mishehu: k :>`
`18:02.01`	`Katty`	`mishehu: also, if it's voIP i'm probably doomed`
`18:02.13`	`stoffell`	`Ikarus; they are not 'in cascade' ?`
`18:02.17`	`Ikarus`	`stoffell: nope`
`18:02.24`	`mishehu`	`Katty: <bender's voice>DOOMED!</bender's voice>`
`18:02.29`	`Katty`	`mishehu: unless you have lots of time for teach porpoises.`
`18:02.47`	`Katty`	`mishehu: i've only setup our company's box...and i had lots of help with that.`
`18:02.48`	`Ikarus`	`stoffell: and I can't find any of the paperwork related to the BRI's, so I have no idea where to start contacting them to get that arranged`
`18:02.58`	`mishehu`	`Katty: porpoise? you are going to living in a pond in my backyard?`
`18:02.59`	`Katty`	`mishehu: and by help i mean i had to learn linux at the same time as asterisk :<`
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`18:03.07`	`Katty`	`mishehu: of course not. i'm going to find a proper city pond.`
`18:03.22`	`mishehu`	`good, because I don't have a backyard or pond`
`18:03.26`	`mishehu`	`just a parking lot`
`18:03.26`	`Katty`	`k`
`18:03.37`	`Katty`	`mishehu: is it near the elllllllll`
`18:03.40`	`mishehu`	`thus is the drawback of being in an apartment`
`18:03.44`	`stoffell`	`hm, we have 2 bri's @ work, but cascaded, I guess that's the best way, now convince your telco...`
`18:03.45`	`mishehu`	`Katty: nah, metra`
`18:03.53`	`Katty`	`mishehu: wait. you work out of your apartment?`
`18:04.00`	`mishehu`	`Katty: sure do.`
`18:04.04`	`Katty`	`mishehu: also, how big is and how much do you pay a month?`
`18:04.26`	`Katty`	`mishehu: for the apartment`
`18:04.32`	`Ikarus`	`stoffell: ah well, I'll go bitch to big green on tuesday, no need to work before then`
`18:04.39`	`Katty`	`mishehu: i'm guestimating somewhere around 900-1000/month for what i want.`
`18:04.45`	`mishehu`	`Katty: have a room set up as an office. and Tony J. (don't know if you remember him, he's the guy that works for me) comes over to work on our projects`
`18:04.59`	`Katty`	`mishehu: aww, a wittle bitty company.`
`18:05.01`	`stoffell`	`hehe`
`18:05.10`	`Katty`	`mishehu: izzocute!`
`18:05.12`	`mishehu`	`Katty: 1200 sq ft, $1000/mo. 3 min wakl to the train`
`18:05.32`	`Katty`	`mishehu: how many bedrooms is that apt?`
`18:05.38`	`mishehu`	`Katty: 2 bedroom. one bedroom is the office now.`
`18:05.39`	`Katty`	`mishehu: north chicago?`
`18:05.42`	`mishehu`	`west`
`18:06.07`	`mishehu`	`moo? that's north of chicago`
`18:06.23`	`Katty`	`mishehu: can you give me a name of an area?`
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`18:06.54`	`Katty`	`mishehu: which hunk o chicago 'west' is in`
`18:07.12`	`Katty`	`i guess that's called county`
`18:07.25`	`mishehu`	`Katty: doooo paaaaaje (dupage)`
`18:07.31`	`Katty`	`kthx`
`18:07.47`	`mishehu`	`Katty: I have to head out to meet with a client, bbl.`
`18:07.55`	`Katty`	`mishehu: kbi`
`18:08.21`	`mishehu`	`catch you around a little later.`
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`18:09.33`	`stoffell`	`why is every zapata.conf for quadbri saying "signalling = bri_cpe_ptmp" while I have to use "signalling = bri_cpe" .. ?`
`18:11.07`	`docelm0`	`Anyone got a couple minutes to help me install a Zaptel 410?`
`18:12.09`	`loud`	`te410p requires time and paypal for most people in here.`
`18:13.03`	`stoffell`	`try the howto on voip-info, doesn't that work well?`
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`18:16.38`	`docelm0`	`Well I think the only thing I am missing is loading the modules into the kernel`
`18:16.52`	`Katty`	`samba has insaned.`
`18:17.04`	`docelm0`	`Basically I cant find it in /proc or /dev`
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`18:17.24`	`Katty`	`cron mounts a network share, from a windows box, but does not $useridnumber write permissions to said directory :<`
`18:17.41`	`Katty`	`this makes me all sad inside.`
`18:17.46`	`cham0169`	`i have a nortel option pbx, and i would like to setup an asterisk behind it`
`18:17.58`	`Katty`	`cham0169: hi.`
`18:17.59`	`cham0169`	`does anyone have knowledge of information where that is done?`
`18:18.12`	`cham0169`	`Katty: hi`
`18:18.31`	`Katty`	`cham0169: do you normally just show up and ask for help without even saying hi?`
`18:18.37`	`cham0169`	`haha im sorry`
`18:19.06`	`Katty`	`cham0169: you might want to check out the wiki for asterisk howtos`
`18:19.06`	`stoffell`	`docelm0, your modprobe works?`
`18:19.12`	`cham0169`	`im new to irc chat, and unfortunatley let my eagerness get ahead of my pleasentry`
`18:19.14`	`Katty`	`cham0169: it has a zomgyoustarthere page.`
`18:19.19`	`docelm0`	`Honesly dude.. I dont know how the hell it works`
`18:19.23`	`Katty`	`~docs`
`18:19.27`	`jbot`	`extra, extra, read all about it, docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk`
`18:19.39`	`Katty`	`cham0169: please refer to voip-info.org`
`18:19.40`	`stoffell`	`docelm0; http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Zaptel+Installation`
`18:19.52`	`stoffell`	`lol`
`18:19.54`	`docelm0`	`I did that.. But dont see anything about installing the modules`
`18:20.08`	`docelm0`	`She's bold`
`18:20.16`	`docelm0`	`Lets keep her`
`18:20.17`	`stoffell`	`docelm0; ctrl-f -> install`
`18:20.56`	`Katty`	`docelm0: ...she?`
`18:21.05`	`docelm0`	`ya you..`
`18:21.12`	`Katty`	`docelm0: and why am i bold?`
`18:21.21`	`Katty`	`docelm0: and why are you refering to me like some sort of trinket`
`18:21.23`	`docelm0`	`Welling people to go see the wiki`
`18:21.28`	`docelm0`	`sigh women`
`18:21.39`	`Katty`	`sigh, males.`
`18:21.44`	`stoffell`	`lol`
`18:22.00`	`Katty`	`docelm0: i'll not complain at you, but it's bad manners to refer to me as an object (=`
`18:22.03`	`docelm0`	`Uhh how many females are in here? Those I belive are fighting words..`
`18:22.04`	`justinu`	`docelm0: it's ok to just show up and ask`
`18:22.06`	`Katty`	`docelm0: i am not /kept/`
`18:22.28`	`stoffell`	`goto: letstryagain`
`18:22.35`	`Katty`	`docelm0: several at the conventions. one of two here`
`18:22.56`	`Katty`	`not to mention Allison`
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`18:24.37`	`scoates`	`hello. I'm having trouble hooking in to my provider's DID. I'm registered fine, and with tcpdump, I see packets coming in, but * (in iax2 debug mode, verbose 9) doesn't report anything when I call the number -- any pointers would be appreciated.`
`18:24.41`	`Katty`	`scoates: hi`
`18:25.15`	`Katty`	`you know, i think people just showing up and asking for help........without bothering to say hi, just sorta annoy me ;)`
`18:25.17`	`hypa7ia`	`psht, everyone knows there are no girls on the internet`
`18:25.40`	`stoffell`	`Katty, humans, can't live with them, can't live without them ;)`
`18:26.04`	`Katty`	`hypa7ia: you've clearly not met me at a convention (=`
`18:26.10`	`hypa7ia`	`oh i think i might have`
`18:26.11`	`Katty`	`hypa7ia: you should though!`
`18:26.18`	`hypa7ia`	`were you at astricon?`
`18:26.24`	`Katty`	`hypa7ia: no, i was at cluecon`
`18:26.27`	`hypa7ia`	`ahh`
`18:26.31`	`hypa7ia`	`cool :-)`
`18:26.47`	`Katty`	`file[laptop]: (=`
`18:26.48`	`scoates`	`heh.. sorry. Hi.`
`18:26.49`	`scoates`	`(-:`
`18:26.49`	`Katty`	`file[laptop]: fix my samba.`
`18:26.53`	`Katty`	`file[laptop]: pretty please.`
`18:26.55`	`file`	`Katty: hmm`
`18:26.57`	`file`	`Katty: rm -rf /`
`18:26.59`	`hypa7ia`	`there were 5 women at astricon other than people on the tradeshow floor`
`18:27.02`	`Katty`	`file: zomg, k`
`18:27.07`	`hypa7ia`	`it was pretty sad :/`
`18:27.15`	`Katty`	`hypa7ia: did you talk to any of them?`
`18:27.19`	`justinu`	`i brought my woman... she thought it was pretty cool`
`18:27.55`	`hypa7ia`	`Katty: i'm one of the 5`
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`18:28.15`	`Katty`	`hypa7ia: excellent`
`18:28.48`	`hypa7ia`	`yuppers`
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`18:30.25`	`JerJer`	`fuck the bells are very strategically putting themselves back together`
`18:30.32`	`JerJer`	`http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuoteCompanyNewsArticle.jhtml?duid=mtfh33770_2005-10-27_12-29-41_n27423518_newsml`
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`18:31.20`	`hypa7ia`	`scary`
`18:31.30`	`hypa7ia`	`same monopoly, less regulation!`
`18:31.40`	`hypa7ia`	`the consumer... wins, yea, that's right.`
`18:31.43`	`hypa7ia`	`>_>`
`18:31.44`	`hypa7ia`	`<_<`
`18:32.11`	`iCEBrkr`	`JerJer: Oh, like SBC bought Ameritech.. So now SBC is gonna buy AT&T..`
`18:32.12`	`iCEBrkr`	`Hrrm.`
`18:33.24`	`scoates`	`... is there a way to increase the verbosity of iax2 debug ?`
`18:33.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`With VoIP and internet technology, there's actually some competition still--- tho.`
`18:34.02`	`JerJer`	`not when the 'network' is controlled by the monopoly`
`18:34.10`	`iCEBrkr`	`Well, true.`
`18:34.28`	`iCEBrkr`	`You'll have to buy your circuits from them and they'll increase the rates on the, so you can't make a profit.`
`18:34.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`s/the,/them,`
`18:34.55`	`iCEBrkr`	`:(`
`18:35.01`	`JerJer`	`and they will sell direct to the customer at a loss`
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`18:35.10`	`iCEBrkr`	`Yea, cuz they can.`
`18:35.26`	`iCEBrkr`	`Isn't there some sort of business laws against selling at a loss for X amount of time?`
`18:35.30`	`JerJer`	`if the 'phone companies' would become 'transit companies' and only sell pipe to 'providers' it would all work out`
`18:35.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`I thought Microsoft got slapped for that with the Xbox.`
`18:35.56`	`JerJer`	`let them be copper and light farmers`
`18:35.58`	`stoffell`	`would it be a good idea to use zaptel cvs on otherwise bristuff-stable? (1.0.9)`
`18:36.04`	`JerJer`	`let someone else deal with the actual customer`
`18:36.18`	`iCEBrkr`	`JerJer: You'd get better customer service :)`
`18:36.32`	`FuriousGeorge`	`JerJer: like you, Mr. Personality :)`
`18:36.43`	`justinu`	`anyone ever use SER to proxy SIP/TCP requests to asterisk and back?`
`18:37.00`	`JerJer`	`asterisk doesnt' deal with TCP based SIP at this point`
`18:37.14`	`justinu`	`that's why I'm using SER to proxy the requests to asterisk on UDP`
`18:37.23`	`Xen^`	`hello`
`18:37.26`	`JerJer`	`ok and the problem is?`
`18:37.45`	`hardwire`	`dangit`
`18:38.00`	`justinu`	`looking at the output from ser, i'm sending two 100 tryings... one from ser and one from asterisk`
`18:38.01`	`FuriousGeorge`	`JerJer: even if the bells do put themselves back together, isnt there some federal law against them tampering w/ voip traffic on the data lines they sell you?`
`18:38.07`	`justinu`	`shouldn't be a problem, but it kind of irritates me.`
`18:38.19`	`hardwire`	`other than PRI signalling. what other voice trunks can set outbound CID w/ most ILEC's?`
`18:38.38`	`hardwire`	`cause apparently I am not getting a PRI.`
`18:38.39`	`justinu`	`Feature group D`
`18:38.43`	`file`	`justinu: modify asterisk or ser to not do it ;)`
`18:38.44`	`hardwire`	`E&M?`
`18:38.53`	`file`	`SER is easy to modify, I can tell you what module...`
`18:39.20`	`justinu`	`file: all I have right now is a rule that says for inbound requests to whatever uri, forward_tcp() to the asterisk box`
`18:39.27`	`justinu`	`is that all I need?`
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`18:39.37`	`file`	`now you're asking two different questions`
`18:39.41`	`FuriousGeorge`	`shmaltz: que pasa`
`18:39.49`	`justinu`	`file: true, I am`
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`18:40.00`	`shmaltz`	`doj has aproved both the sbc/att and the verizon/mci mergers`
`18:40.01`	`justinu`	`s/forward_tcp/forward_udp`
`18:40.17`	`shmaltz`	`FuriousGeorge, hi you`
`18:40.20`	`FuriousGeorge`	`we were just talking about that shmaltz`
`18:40.28`	`shmaltz`	`oh, wow`
`18:40.41`	`JerJer`	`fuck it`
`18:40.46`	`file`	`justinu: I have never done TCP stuff`
`18:40.53`	`justinu`	`ok`
`18:40.54`	`shmaltz`	`JerJer, what the aprovals?`
`18:41.13`	`JerJer`	`i would really like to see where its written that companies MUST provide 2 minute response time customer service`
`18:41.15`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i just asked if there wasnt some ferderal legislation in place preventing them from tampering with voip-traffic on the bandwidth they sell to the consumer`
`18:41.16`	`justinu`	`file: anyways, back to that 100 trying question :)`
`18:41.22`	`file`	`justinu: tm module`
`18:41.33`	`wunderkin`	`JerJer, didn't you get the memo?`
`18:41.38`	`FuriousGeorge`	`lol`
`18:41.42`	`shmaltz`	`FuriousGeorge, someone just broght it up on the list`
`18:41.44`	`JerJer`	`fucking greg, hayzell and myself spend 16 to 18 hours at our fucking computers and people still bitch about our service`
`18:41.57`	`justinu`	`so do a better job`
`18:41.58`	`JerJer`	`16 to 18 hours a day`
`18:42.08`	`JerJer`	`fuck you - i'm not in the mood`
`18:42.10`	`justinu`	`lol`
`18:42.14`	`shmaltz`	`JerJer, whos fault at the end?`
`18:42.15`	`morale`	`are cisco 7905g phones good?`
`18:42.19`	`FuriousGeorge`	`JerJer: you love us, and you werent spending the time with us, you'd be spending 18 hours being less fulfilled`
`18:42.24`	`shmaltz`	`morale, yeah`
`18:42.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`JerJer: you /need/ me man :D`
`18:43.04`	`*** join/#asterisk oej (n=Olle@ti111210a080-3723.bb.online.no)`
`18:43.05`	`JerJer`	`no i could be spending 18 hours a day finishing building my house`
`18:43.21`	`FuriousGeorge`	`but then you'd be a contractor, and not JerJer`
`18:44.39`	`JerJer`	`see just like that - someone just private messaged me about bullshit`
`18:44.52`	`JerJer`	`god damn i shouldn't have ever gotten out of bed today`
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`18:45.30`	`JerJer`	`i don't need anyone - I run the companies I run because there is a market to make MORE MONEY than i already have`
`18:45.53`	`carrar`	`then don't be a channel where people are aasking for support`
`18:46.06`	`FuriousGeorge`	`I use nufone because the customer support is /personal/ :)`
`18:46.20`	`JerJer`	`where in the topic of this channel does it say PM JerJer for Nufone support ?`
`18:46.39`	`carrar`	`You used to gladly help people in order to use your service`
`18:46.44`	`carrar`	`you've changed`
`18:46.51`	`FuriousGeorge`	`he's hung over`
`18:47.08`	`FuriousGeorge`	`(guessing)`
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`18:47.32`	`JerJer`	`no just tired of people bitching`
`18:47.43`	`JerJer`	`if you don't like what we provide, don't use our service`
`18:47.46`	`JerJer`	`very simple`
`18:47.56`	`justinu`	`people bitch... it never stops`
`18:48.13`	`JerJer`	`which is why I am bitching now too`
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`18:48.20`	`justinu`	`i see`
`18:48.23`	`clive-`	`I agree, just had a customer bitchin at me, and its like 8:30 at night...`
`18:48.57`	`rigid`	`clive-, thank god you're no doctor or policeman...`
`18:49.12`	`morale`	`anyone like grandstream gxp-2000 phones?`
`18:49.19`	`justinu`	`or iax service provider`
`18:49.20`	`carrar`	`hahah`
`18:49.23`	`clive-`	`wonder what he would say if I told him to get a life and go out for coffee or something`
`18:49.35`	`clive-`	`rigid...lol...yea, :)`
`18:49.49`	`JerJer`	`i'd be shootin people`
`18:50.02`	`JerJer`	`either with a needle or gun - doesn't matter`
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`18:50.34`	`clive-`	`no wonder they made an asterisk dribkers channle...we all need a shot of something strong too!`
`18:50.43`	`FuriousGeorge`	`with a needle? thats kinda twisted`
`18:50.47`	`clive-`	`drinkers`
`18:50.57`	`syzygyBSD`	`everclear?`
`18:51.05`	`syzygyBSD`	`or something a little easier?`
`18:51.11`	`JerJer`	`moonshine`
`18:51.14`	`FuriousGeorge`	`a small dose of LSD`
`18:51.37`	`JerJer`	`Mescaline`
`18:51.42`	`clive-`	`I had some good marawan growing in my garden here...before it all got discovered`
`18:51.52`	`clive-`	`lol`
`18:51.58`	`justinu`	`that sucks`
`18:52.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`Redbull and Bacardi-O please..`
`18:52.36`	`Netgeeks`	`marawan?`
`18:52.37`	`FuriousGeorge`	`the tech support questions would be great: Dear JerJer, I'm having trouble making out the smell of my phone calls`
`18:53.02`	`clive-`	`marawana....my typing skills still suck`
`18:53.12`	`JerJer`	`New echo canceller mods based on KB1. If you have echo, try MG2 out.`
`18:53.17`	`iCEBrkr`	`clive-: So does your spelling :P`
`18:53.18`	`justinu`	`mari-jew-wanna`
`18:53.26`	`Netgeeks`	`ah, marijuana`
`18:53.29`	`justinu`	`mari-jew-wanna is bad.... mmkay?`
`18:53.31`	`Netgeeks`	`aka Mary jane`
`18:53.34`	`FuriousGeorge`	`dank?`
`18:53.40`	`Nugget`	`be a lot cooler if you did, man.`
`18:53.53`	`FuriousGeorge`	`oooh ooooh Dazed and Confused`
`18:53.57`	`clive-`	`icebrker,,,they never taught engineers to spell...oh well`
`18:53.59`	`Oryn`	`anyone know how I can filter calls that have callerid "OUT OF AREA" and no number?`
`18:54.38`	`*** join/#asterisk AgiNamu (n=AgiNamu@8.7.80.195)`
`18:54.49`	`clive-`	`oryn that'll be me calling from outside the US....its a real challenge calling a US number with that filter stuff going`
`18:54.55`	`Netgeeks`	`GotoIf($["${CIDNAME}" = "OUT OF AREA")?.....`
`18:54.55`	`JerJer`	`exten => s/,1,Hangup`
`18:55.11`	`JerJer`	`or <dnis>/s,1,Hangup`
`18:55.14`	`AgiNamu`	`Hey, anyone here interested in a bit of AGI-related development?`
`18:55.20`	`JerJer`	`hell no`
`18:55.21`	`iCEBrkr`	`clive-: Hey, I'm a programmer, I only need to know how to spell 500 keywords.. and they're short too.`
`18:55.25`	`Netgeeks`	`oops, missed the ending ] in there but you get the idea`
`18:55.26`	`clive-`	`Agi, go for it....`
`18:55.30`	`AgiNamu`	`We have an issue where if the call is answered, and then we do an "exec dial" the person dialed cannot hear audio.`
`18:55.44`	`TedC`	`meetme uses sliner internally, right?`
`18:55.46`	`Oryn`	`Netgeeks: will that just look for "OUT OF AREA" as a part of the cid?`
`18:55.51`	`AgiNamu`	`However, Monitor still records both audio streams.`
`18:56.08`	`Oryn`	`Netgeeks: I didn't know if it had to be an exact match`
`18:56.10`	`AgiNamu`	`So I'm willing to pay for someone to work with us on this`
`18:56.12`	`Netgeeks`	`yep, since you asked for how to filter calls with "OUT OF AREA" in the text portion of CID`
`18:56.12`	`JerJer`	`AgiNamu: smells like a codeec mismatch then`
`18:56.25`	`AgiNamu`	`everyone is using 711 :\`
`18:56.32`	`JerJer`	`positive?`
`18:57.01`	`AgiNamu`	`I'm going to double check`
`18:57.12`	`AgiNamu`	`one sec`
`18:57.30`	`Netgeeks`	`Oryn: if youare looking for a more inclusive answer, I'd try what JerJer suggested above, that way you catch any calls without a numebr`
`18:57.36`	`Netgeeks`	`number`
`18:57.48`	`nobell`	`can somebody take a look at this web application - Asteriskoids - tell me if you have any problems with it? designed for Linux Firefox, Windows Firefox, and Windows IE - http://jared.degraffenried.net/asteriskoids`
`18:57.51`	`Netgeeks`	`Or you could just run all your calls through PrivacyManager`
`18:58.26`	`*** part/#asterisk joelsolanki (i=joelsola@202.160.161.93)`
`18:59.59`	`Katty`	`Netgeeks: mew.`
`19:00.19`	`docelm0`	`YAY!`
`19:00.31`	`JerJer`	`nobell: looks like piss poor coding to me`
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`19:00.43`	`docelm0`	`Allison is in the channel?`
`19:00.53`	`Katty`	`docelm0: i doubt it`
`19:01.00`	`TestPilot`	`i am having problems getting * to "make" on Solaris 8 (SunOS 5.8)`
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`19:01.04`	`TestPilot`	`any have any tips?`
`19:01.04`	`docelm0`	`Well I am talking community`
`19:01.04`	`*** join/#asterisk just4fun (n=edwin@209.151.137.139)`
`19:01.26`	`TedC`	`here's a weird one. If I put an inbound call directly into a meetme, it works fine. However, if I try to pass the call to a few SIP peers before passing it to the meetme, I get "chan_sip.c:1836 sip_write: Asked to transmit frame type 64, while native formats is 4 (read/write = 64/4)" warning and no audio`
`19:01.27`	`nobell`	`JerJer: does it work for you?`
`19:01.55`	`JerJer`	`nope`
`19:02.02`	`JerJer`	`not on linux or OS X`
`19:02.18`	`nobell`	`are you using firefox?`
`19:02.19`	`Katty`	`Netgeeks: :>`
`19:02.21`	`docelm0`	`Thats has to be one of the funkiest games ever`
`19:02.30`	`JerJer`	`firefox and safari`
`19:02.43`	`nobell`	`docelm0: does it work on your browser?`
`19:02.43`	`TedC`	`anybody have any ideas why the SIP Dial attempt would mess up the codecs like that?`
`19:02.49`	`docelm0`	`No`
`19:02.54`	`docelm0`	`Firefox`
`19:02.58`	`Katty`	`mozilla!`
`19:03.01`	`nobell`	`what linux distros?`
`19:03.45`	`morale`	`anyone here have Grandstream GXP-2000 phones?`
`19:03.52`	`justinu`	`yes`
`19:03.53`	`JerJer`	`its java`
`19:03.58`	`just4fun`	`if I got "WatchDogProc: canary died!" (in iaxclient) what does it means? Is the computer too busy to do some audio stuff? sorry I know this is not a iaxclient room`
`19:04.10`	`JerJer`	`and java is cross-platform, RIGHT?`
`19:04.14`	`JerJer`	`RIGHT?`
`19:04.14`	`morale`	`justinu: are they decent phones?`
`19:04.21`	`justinu`	`heh`
`19:04.23`	`nobell`	`the stupid little java applet isn't working.. is that what it is?`
`19:04.27`	`justinu`	`morale: depends on what you want`
`19:04.34`	`justinu`	`define "decent"`
`19:04.38`	`iCEBrkr`	`JerJer: Java sucks cross-platform.`
`19:04.40`	`nobell`	`the game is javascript.`
`19:04.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`JerJer: well, except on OS/2`
`19:05.00`	`nobell`	`there is only one little stupid java thing I tried putting in there, for sounds.`
`19:05.19`	`*** join/#asterisk viLeR (i=1000@66.128.47.232)`
`19:05.53`	`morale`	`justinu: have any of them died on you, do they have good support for firmware updates..`
`19:06.01`	`docelm0`	`Whats the linux command to load a module at the CLI into the Kernel?`
`19:06.03`	`nobell`	`did the game work for anybody else?`
`19:06.08`	`justinu`	`morale: i only have one in my lap`
`19:06.14`	`hypa7ia`	`docelm0: modprobe`
`19:06.24`	`justinu`	`morale: firmware updates are easy to get via their website.`
`19:06.30`	`justinu`	`morale: s/lap/lab`
`19:06.36`	`syle2`	`insmod`
`19:06.44`	`morale`	`ah`
`19:06.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`docelm0: insmod or modprobe`
`19:06.57`	`Katty`	`docelm0: i do insmod wctdm, but not at the cli`
`19:07.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: umm.. sure you do.`
`19:07.17`	`morale`	`im going to be running them in my house`
`19:07.22`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: lies.`
`19:07.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`CLI = Command Line Interface`
`19:07.33`	`syle2`	`so my new rhino arrived, sweet ass channel bank`
`19:07.37`	`iCEBrkr`	`bash = cli.`
`19:07.42`	`syle2`	`anyone else have one?`
`19:07.43`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: i don't insmod wctdm at the asterisk cli`
`19:07.45`	`iCEBrkr`	`:)`
`19:07.52`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: saavy?`
`19:07.54`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: Ahh, yeah, that's better.`
`19:07.54`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: ;)`
`19:08.06`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: that's the purrty black screen.`
`19:08.11`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: don't confuse me with the facts.`
`19:08.12`	`rigid`	`bash is A CLI ... CLI on this channel mostly refers to the asterisks "interactive mode" ;)`
`19:08.27`	`*** join/#asterisk Broom (i=Broom@jescobar.ayustar.net)`
`19:08.28`	`iCEBrkr`	`rigid: Well, it shouldn't :P`
`19:08.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`rigid: I'm just being difficult.`
`19:08.37`	`IronHelix`	`morale- buy one or two to see if you like them first`
`19:08.52`	`IronHelix`	`and make sure you load the latest firmware on them, 1.0.1.12`
`19:08.58`	`IronHelix`	`it makes the speaker phone not suck ass`
`19:09.07`	`Oryn`	`rigid: the amiga rocked :)`
`19:09.11`	`IronHelix`	`there is another fw version coming out sometime around the end of this month`
`19:09.15`	`rigid`	`Oryn, it still does... ;)`
`19:09.17`	`morale`	`ah ok`
`19:09.20`	`IronHelix`	`personally i dont have that many complaints about them`
`19:09.21`	`morale`	`IronHelix: do you use them?`
`19:09.30`	`IronHelix`	`i use on as my main desk phone`
`19:09.33`	`Oryn`	`rigid: I only have uae now`
`19:09.40`	`Xen^`	`can some one tell me that fwd iax working ?`
`19:09.48`	`IronHelix`	`next FW version will supposedly support snom style hint led's for the speed dial buttons (presence`
`19:09.55`	`Katty`	`also, when's the next conference?`
`19:09.58`	`morale`	`cool`
`19:10.00`	`IronHelix`	`xen- fwdiax has been broken for the better part of a week as far as i can tell`
`19:10.16`	`rigid`	`Oryn, there's a new OS out and a whole new platform (from which i don't know very much) ... but i still got my fullblown a4000/60 around...`
`19:10.18`	`Xen^`	`hmm`
`19:10.20`	`morale`	`does Power Over Ethernet work with any ethernet device or do I have to have a specific switch which supports it?`
`19:10.22`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: twisted, dear, host a conference.`
`19:10.33`	`IronHelix`	`morale- theres a few annoying bits, like you cant do intercom with a sip header (that i know of), but you can configure a line to be auto answer`
`19:10.48`	`IronHelix`	`morale- you can get a powered switch or a power injector that goes between the switch and the device`
`19:10.55`	`*** join/#asterisk IPmonger (n=ipmonger@pcp0010577106pcs.coatsv01.pa.comcast.net)`
`19:10.56`	`IronHelix`	`and the device has to support poe for it to take power from the line`
`19:11.10`	`Broom`	`hey all, i have this problem, when i call outside via a zap port using xlite the person receving the call cant hear the person calling, but the person calling can hear the person called`
`19:11.17`	`IronHelix`	`netgear makes a nice powered switch, 4 powered 4 unpowered 10/100 ports for about $100`
`19:11.24`	`AgiNamu`	`OK, so both sides are using ULAW (native/read/write format is 4)`
`19:11.32`	`morale`	`ah.. i'll take a look at that`
`19:11.33`	`*** join/#asterisk Gunnar (n=gunnar@34.80-203-209.nextgentel.com)`
`19:11.44`	`IronHelix`	`broom you have sip nat issues, check your rtp.conf, forward those ports to your * box, then configure externip and localnet in sip.conf`
`19:11.51`	`Broom`	`ok`
`19:11.53`	`Oryn`	`changing the subject, anyone tried to update the firmware on a sipura spa-3000? when I try it looks like its worked, but the firmware version remains at the old one`
`19:12.39`	`IronHelix`	`morale it really depends on your taste, if you are going to roll something large it might be worth it to wait till the linksys 941 comes out`
`19:13.09`	`IronHelix`	`also look into SNOM phones (they dont suck and support hint LEDs so theres a button that lights when somebody is on the phone)`
`19:13.23`	`justinu`	`polycom is also good, and cheaper than snom`
`19:13.29`	`justinu`	`at least the 501 is`
`19:13.41`	`morale`	`yeah its just for a small home setup so i can learn asterisk/voip a bit more and possibly make some money eventually`
`19:13.47`	`justinu`	`then the gxp is fine`
`19:14.00`	`IronHelix`	`true. polycom phones have good speakerphone ability (pcom got started doing conference room speakerphones) but firmware updates are hard to get`
`19:14.07`	`justinu`	`sipura 841 is probably a better phone for learning, simply because it's webUI and phoneUI are better`
`19:14.24`	`*** part/#asterisk just4fun (n=edwin@209.151.137.139)`
`19:14.43`	`Oryn`	`IronHelix: the newer snom phones have issues with the hook switch, ie you can drop a call as you pick it up`
`19:14.49`	`IronHelix`	`interesting`
`19:14.52`	`IronHelix`	`i hadnt heard that`
`19:14.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`IronHelix : I found no issue getting firmware for Polycoms as I have 26 of them here so far.`
`19:14.59`	`IronHelix`	`how big a problem is it?`
`19:15.02`	`justinu`	`they forget to add a switch debounce or something?`
`19:15.11`	`Oryn`	`IronHelix: also they dont work with the branded snom headsets`
`19:15.25`	`IronHelix`	`do they work with normal headsets?`
`19:15.33`	`morale`	`oo.. these sipura 841's are only 70$`
`19:15.39`	`Oryn`	`justinu: looks that way, but there's a firmware update that is supposed to fix it`
`19:15.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`The biggest pain with Polycom is XML config files are harder to deal with , but still quite powerful.`
`19:15.49`	`IronHelix`	`mm`
`19:15.57`	`justinu`	`lol, 128k xml files rule!`
`19:15.58`	`*** join/#asterisk mismanccc (n=mismancc@bcs03.climaticcontrol.com)`
`19:16.09`	`Oryn`	`IronHelix: the 199 and 200 snom's are sweet`
`19:16.12`	`IronHelix`	`morale- yeah but keep in mind the $70 841 only supports two lines`
`19:16.23`	`Broom`	`Iron: there are like 8 users utilizing xlite under that nat box, i have nat=yes in the sip.conf`
`19:16.26`	`IronHelix`	`if you pay an extra $30 you get an upgrade serial number that makes it 4 lines`
`19:16.29`	`justinu`	`morale: get a gxp2000 and a sipura841`
`19:16.31`	`Broom`	`any other configuration?`
`19:16.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Sipura 841 looks interesting for the price, but I've heard a lot about the cheap feel of them. The 941 looks a lot better, but I'm not sure its worth double the $`
`19:16.48`	`IronHelix`	`broom, is the * box behind nat?`
`19:16.49`	`justinu`	`morale: also, the 841 only has a single ethernet port... gxp2000 has 2`
`19:16.52`	`docelm0`	`ok I got the driver loaded into the kernel.. Now question.. I try to run ztcfg and I get cant find this: /dev/zap/ctl`
`19:16.55`	`Broom`	`Iron: no\`
`19:16.56`	`morale`	`ah..`
`19:16.57`	`IronHelix`	`oh yeah broom`
`19:16.58`	`docelm0`	`how do I fix it? Anyone?`
`19:17.00`	`IronHelix`	`canreinvite=npo`
`19:17.01`	`justinu`	`fender: the 841 buttons seriously suck, but the software is quite nice.`
`19:17.02`	`IronHelix`	`*no`
`19:17.10`	`Broom`	`yes, have it like that`
`19:17.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`justinu : Having worked with the SPA-2000 & 1001 I'd believe it.`
`19:17.42`	`AgiNamu`	`OK, so if we answer a call (SIP) first, then transfer to AGI, then have AGI bridge it to an IAX client, the IAX client can't hear audio.`
`19:17.50`	`AgiNamu`	`additionally, I get this error : Oct 27 15:01:37 WARNING[8077]: channel.c:1793 ast_indicate: Unable to handle indication 3 for 'SIP/xxx-0911'`
`19:18.02`	`IronHelix`	`if the * box isnt behind nat then you should set nat=no in [general] and nat=yes fo the clients, you also wont need localnet`
`19:18.08`	`IronHelix`	`the xlite phones need to have STUN setup`
`19:18.18`	`scoates`	`mmh.. all's good. thanks for the help (as always)`
`19:18.21`	`morale`	`i guess the grandstream budgetone 102 is not worth looking at?`
`19:18.22`	`*** part/#asterisk scoates (n=sean@iconoclast.caedmon.net)`
`19:18.25`	`morale`	`it looks really cheap`
`19:18.33`	`Oryn`	`morale: I have one`
`19:18.35`	`mismanccc`	`Is anyone familiar with Asterisk Management Portal? I'm having trouble with some Zap Trunks.`
`19:18.36`	`IronHelix`	`it is, get the 101 tho, as the 2nd ethernet port doestn do much`
`19:18.45`	`IronHelix`	`i want to smack whoever decided SIP should send ip addresses in invites`
`19:18.58`	`stoffell`	`mismanccc, wgat ya trying to do?`
`19:19.05`	`IronHelix`	`anyway i gotta run`
`19:19.05`	`IronHelix`	`bbl`
`19:19.10`	`morale`	`oryn, how are the buttons on that phone and the sound quality?`
`19:19.11`	`blitzrage`	`IronHelix: look at oej :0`
`19:19.36`	`Oryn`	`morale: ok, mine light up red at night and the display lights up blue`
`19:19.48`	`Broom`	`Iron: the nat=no in general in what configuration?`
`19:19.48`	`mismanccc`	`I'm trying to configure AMP to use a TDM400P with 4x FXO modules. For some reason, I can only get it to use the first module.`
`19:19.50`	`Oryn`	`morale: the sound quality is ok`
`19:20.18`	`morale`	`does it let you know if someone is on the line already? is there any notification if a line is in use on them?`
`19:20.32`	`Broom`	`Iron: sorry`
`19:20.33`	`Broom`	`got i`
`19:20.33`	`mismanccc`	`Nope. Just a very slight hissing sound.`
`19:20.34`	`Broom`	`t`
`19:20.37`	`Oryn`	`morale: not as good as a sipura spa-[2-3]xxx`
`19:20.41`	`stoffell`	`mismanccc; and your zaptel and zapata config is okay?`
`19:21.06`	`Oryn`	`morale: yup it gives you a busy signal`
`19:21.26`	`Oryn`	`morale: the ethernet port is 10meg only`
`19:21.43`	`Katty`	`i'm thinking of a piece of software.`
`19:21.49`	`Katty`	`it sits on a windows box, and talks to asterisk`
`19:21.58`	`Katty`	`a bit like call center software`
`19:22.01`	`Katty`	`what am i thinking of?`
`19:22.07`	`morale`	`oryn, you would need to talk really fast to fill up a 10mbit stream`
`19:22.18`	`morale`	`heh`
`19:22.41`	`Oryn`	`Katty: there is a very cool flash web based app that displays call status etc`
`19:23.09`	`Oryn`	`morale: but it sucks if you plug a pc via it as its internal hub is only 10 meg`
`19:23.21`	`IronHelix`	`broom- awesome`
`19:23.23`	`IronHelix`	`before i run`
`19:23.25`	`stoffell`	`Katty; ipswitcboard?`
`19:23.33`	`IronHelix`	`anybody know estimated pricing on the tdm-2400 when it drops?`
`19:23.49`	`Oryn`	`Katty: this runs on a web browser that has a flash pulgin`
`19:23.54`	`Oryn`	`plugin*`
`19:23.58`	`Katty`	`Oryn: and it talks to asterisk?`
`19:24.02`	`Oryn`	`yuup`
`19:24.04`	`Katty`	`hot`
`19:24.06`	`Katty`	`what's the name of it?`
`19:24.19`	`Oryn`	`well thats it I dont know`
`19:24.22`	`Katty`	`k`
`19:24.36`	`fugitivo`	`flash operator panel`
`19:24.42`	`Aughey`	`http://www.asternic.org/ maybe`
`19:24.58`	`fugitivo`	`developed by an argentinian`
`19:25.10`	`Oryn`	`http://www.asternic.org/`
`19:25.14`	`Katty`	`Aughey: i just found that on wiki`
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`19:26.02`	`TestPilot`	`anyone here running * on Solaris?`
`19:26.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Hey, I've got a stupid problem I can't seem to figure out : Voicemail lets me change my password through the APP, but when I try to go back in, nothing changed. Any hints?`
`19:26.31`	`Katty`	`Aughey: that's not what i want :<`
`19:26.32`	`Katty`	`ah well`
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`19:26.54`	`Blackthorn`	`I had to switch ip address on my * server today. I changed the ip in the ethernet, but I can't get any phones to register with the server. (ata's reset to the new ip of course). on the console i get a lot of junk that dosn't make since when trying to register. is there another place i need to set ip?`
`19:27.05`	`AgiNamu`	`so anyone interesting making a few bucks figuring out this audio issue? :D`
`19:27.31`	`Aughey`	`fender: permissions on voicemail.conf?`
`19:27.33`	`fugitivo`	`Blackthorn: sip.conf localnet is ok?`
`19:27.40`	`SwK[Work]`	`anyone from digium around? msg me please`
`19:27.46`	`stoffell`	`Katty; [21:23] <stoffell> Katty; ipswitcboard?`
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`19:28.17`	`Blackthorn`	`thanks fig.. thats the problem`
`19:28.27`	`fugitivo`	`ok`
`19:30.01`	`Blackthorn`	`I'm just so tired right now from chainging this entire isp address out i'm missing things :(`
`19:30.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Aughey : Not AFAIK... just tried to change it.`
`19:30.32`	`jarrod`	`cripito around?`
`19:31.38`	`Netgeeks`	`AgiNamu: FWIW, IMHO, AGI's are the debil`
`19:32.39`	`Katty`	`stoffell: sorry, but that's definately not what i'm after (=`
`19:32.56`	`fugitivo`	`Katty: what do you need?`
`19:33.07`	`stoffell`	`k ;)`
`19:33.08`	`Katty`	`fugitivo: i want a piece of software that will sit on a windows box.`
`19:33.30`	`AgiNamu`	`yea... well, they're a bit easier to work with than writing our own C app ;)`
`19:33.32`	`Katty`	`fugitivo: asterisk gets a callerid number, compares it with inflimation in a database, and then spits out some sort of popup maybe...`
`19:33.40`	`Katty`	`fugitivo: with the last time they called and all relevant information, etc`
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`19:33.49`	`jake1932`	`a CRM`
`19:33.53`	`fugitivo`	`Katty: i see`
`19:33.58`	`AgiNamu`	`hmm, using the "r" dial option seems to make the audio flow better :\`
`19:34.00`	`fugitivo`	`Katty: did you google for it?`
`19:34.07`	`fugitivo`	`Katty: asterisk+popup`
`19:34.12`	`AgiNamu`	`but i still get an "cannot handle indication 3"`
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`19:34.34`	`AgiNamu`	`hmm ill be back`
`19:34.57`	`Katty`	`yak!`
`19:35.17`	`Katty`	`i want yak, but on steriods`
`19:35.28`	`ender`	`is there a way to raise the volume of the files being recorded into voicemail?`
`19:35.31`	`Corydon-w`	`yacc?`
`19:35.43`	`ender`	`my users are complaining that they have to turn up the phone ot hear voicemail, and then turn it down again when talking to somebody live.`
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`19:36.10`	`Katty`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+call+notification <- i need help with this.`
`19:36.19`	`Broom`	`Iron: configured the [general] nat=no, and still have the same problem, the clients are configured with nat=yes`
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`19:36.25`	`fugitivo`	`Katty: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+call+notification`
`19:36.35`	`fugitivo`	`Katty: oops, we paste the same url`
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`19:37.24`	`MadNachos`	`I need to setup a asterisk based PBX for about 20 phones....looking for advice on channel banks. Does anyone have a channel bank they suggest?`
`19:38.21`	`jake1932`	`Katty: usually when doing something like this - the customer has the database already in place full of information on their clients - sounds like you need something that will integrate the phone system with the db. is that right?`
`19:39.11`	`Katty`	`jake1932: i'll take care of the database.`
`19:39.19`	`Katty`	`jake1932: i just don't understand how to make it play together. :<`
`19:40.07`	`jake1932`	`Katty: typically what you're describing is custom software - since each business has it's own unique setup`
`19:40.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MadNachos : Don't go with Channel banks. Cost, more and a lot less flexibility.`
`19:40.20`	`Katty`	`jake1932: duh :)`
`19:40.29`	`TestPilot`	`anyone here running * on Solaris?`
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`19:40.48`	`Netgeeks`	`seems Katty made the captain obvious comment first! "[12:42] Katty: jake1932: duh :)"`
`19:41.10`	`MadNachos`	`If I dont use a chan bank, what hardware do I need to connect the phones to the PBX?`
`19:41.23`	`Netgeeks`	`sigh I'm having a terrible time getting into a coding mind set this afternoon....`
`19:41.37`	`blitzrage`	`Netgeeks: I hear you there!`
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`19:41.45`	`blitzrage`	`Netgeeks: I've just been working on a DMS system for Asterisk Docs`
`19:42.07`	`Netgeeks`	`MadNachos: go to www.digium.com and take a look at their new PCI card.. tdm2400 I think it's called`
`19:42.25`	`blitzrage`	`Netgeeks: yep... TDM2400p`
`19:42.26`	`jake1932`	`Katty: well then - why are you asking for something "off the shelf" that will handle your needs - when only you know what you customer's needs are? that page shows you how to get the info to the windows box - what more are you asking for?`
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`19:43.20`	`hypa7ia`	`blitzrage: is it better than tikiwiki? :s`
`19:43.27`	`Netgeeks`	`blitz: I had to google DMS to figure out what you meant... My frist through it how does a nortel DMS relate to Asterisk-docs`
`19:43.37`	`MadNachos`	`hmmmm....dont see a TDM2400P...just a TDM400P`
`19:43.41`	`Netgeeks`	`first thought, even`
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`19:43.57`	`modulus_`	`werd`
`19:44.00`	`Netgeeks`	`MadNachos: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=product_detail&category=hardware&product=TDM2400P&tab=details`
`19:44.05`	`Katty`	`jake1932: that's not what i'm wanting :)`
`19:44.11`	`Katty`	`jake1932: heh.`
`19:44.14`	`MadNachos`	`thx`
`19:44.25`	`Katty`	`jake1932: don't worry about it, k? ;)`
`19:44.32`	`jake1932`	`you got it kats`
`19:44.40`	`Katty`	`excellent`
`19:44.57`	`blitzrage`	`Netgeeks: hahaha... yah, I can totally see that :)`
`19:45.06`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia: its not related to a wiki system at all`
`19:45.16`	`file`	`blitzrage: I'm set to go for Montreal :)`
`19:45.24`	`modulus_`	`jerjer, can i buy an oc3 from you?`
`19:45.25`	`Broom`	`anyone been having problems with making outgoing calls through a zap channel using a sip (xlite), the person I call does not hear me but I hear the person who I called`
`19:45.42`	`modulus_`	`jerjer, i need 40 voicemailboxes with the oc3`
`19:45.49`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia: its a method that will allow us to track a document from the draft stage, to being an approved draft document, then having it converted to DocBook, then a published document`
`19:45.52`	`hypa7ia`	`hehe blitzrage tiki thinks it can do document mgmt too`
`19:46.07`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia: oh -- I don't generally like wiki's :)`
`19:46.07`	`hypa7ia`	`tiki is the worst kitchen sink app ever :/`
`19:46.09`	`justinu`	`is there a way I can force * to send 183 Progress to and inbound call via dialplan?`
`19:46.20`	`justinu`	`s/to and/to an`
`19:46.27`	`hypa7ia`	`blitzrage: there's a spreadsheet app for tikiwiki :-/`
`19:46.38`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia: seems overly complicated :)`
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`19:46.56`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia: jsmith and I discussed how we're going to work with the DMS`
`19:47.03`	`hypa7ia`	`cool`
`19:48.06`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia: we'll have people submit documentation as an ascii file. After several drafts of the document, and we're fairly sure we've got something good, we'll move it to draft approval process. Once approved, we'll move it to the DocBook conversion process. Once converted to DocBook, it'll go to the published documents portion, and will eventually make its way as an HTML and PDF document to the docs site`
`19:48.11`	`JerJer`	`modulus_: we would require an irrevocable letter of credit from your US Based bank`
`19:48.12`	`blitzrage`	`file: congrats :)`
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`19:48.41`	`JerJer`	`but yes if you want an oc-3 into our network we can get er done`
`19:49.04`	`modulus_`	`what kinda pricing you get?`
`19:49.11`	`delox99`	`hi`
`19:49.28`	`delox99`	`im looking for information on asterisk and shared line appearence`
`19:50.10`	`delox99`	`we bought 4 GXP-2000`
`19:50.47`	`MadNachos`	`Am I correct that I can use a Wildcard TE411P to interface with a T1 and then use the TDM2400P to connect the phones?`
`19:50.50`	`delox99`	`we soon learned that they dont support SLA or anything like that like presence yet`
`19:50.50`	`hypa7ia`	`blitzrage: nifty`
`19:51.05`	`justinu`	`delox99: they will soon`
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`19:51.14`	`blitzrage`	`MadNachos: yeppers`
`19:51.18`	`lesouvage`	`I asked before but I spend time trying. With exten => s,1,Dial(Zap/2/0612345678,10,r) Asterisk doesn't count the seconds but rings until the voicemail of the telco picks up.`
`19:51.18`	`delox99`	`do you knwo when?`
`19:51.25`	`justinu`	`delox99: rumor said end of oct, but that's now :)`
`19:51.33`	`delox99`	`hehe yeah`
`19:51.35`	`MadNachos`	`thx blitz`
`19:51.52`	`blitzrage`	`MadNachos: np`
`19:52.26`	`lesouvage`	`So the next priority (voicemail (502) is never reached. Any clue, I start to get desperat`
`19:52.28`	`delox99`	`and they still offer 1090 for gxp-2000 firmware when everyone already use 1012 that supposed to be in beta which doesnt yet support SLA or presence`
`19:52.30`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia: yah, hoping it'll give us a better process of creating documents for the community. We were previously trying to do document submission and correction via the mailing lists, but it wasn't working out`
`19:52.52`	`MadNachos`	`is the TDM2400P avaliable for purchase now? Dont see it on store.digium.com`
`19:52.56`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia: plus it was up to the core members to make all the docbook stuff -- not what I want :)`
`19:53.06`	`delox99`	`they did a good job on echo cancelation on the speakerphone but that s about it`
`19:53.19`	`Broom`	`anyone been having problems with making outgoing calls through a zap channel using a sip (xlite), the person I call does not hear me but I hear the person who I called`
`19:53.20`	`hypa7ia`	`is there a specific OSS DMS you have in mind?`
`19:53.21`	`justinu`	`delox99: they had a 1013 at astricon, i think`
`19:53.26`	`stoffell`	`delox99; current firmware doesn't make phone 'hang' anymore..`
`19:53.27`	`justinu`	`for SLA`
`19:53.45`	`justinu`	`delox99: talk to the guys at voip connection... they had it working`
`19:53.48`	`modulus_`	`jerjer, i want to get an oc3 and terminate it into a dms500 i have access to`
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`19:53.56`	`delox99`	`oh yeah 1013 got SLA?`
`19:54.00`	`justinu`	`iirc`
`19:54.02`	`delox99`	`ok i ll ask them`
`19:54.17`	`blitzrage`	`MadNachos: I think you need to contact Digium directly to get information about purchasing TDM2400's at this time (they JUST came out)`
`19:54.43`	`MadNachos`	`k...thx`
`19:55.01`	`blitzrage`	`hypa7ia: we already have the DMS integrated into the asteriskdocs.org website now (I've been working on it this morning/today)`
`19:55.13`	`delox99`	`i called a couple other companies (Polycom, Sipura, Snom) and they all say that their phones support it but it depends on the server`
`19:55.18`	`JerJer`	`modulus_: if you are serious send a properly detailed request to sales@nufone.net`
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`19:55.28`	`modulus_`	`jerjer, what info do you need?`
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`19:55.37`	`delox99`	`do you guys know of good phones that works with presence right now?`
`19:55.37`	`JerJer`	`perhaps where you want the circuit`
`19:55.39`	`justinu`	`delox: yeah, i think the code for asterisk hasn't been put into 1.2 yet, either.`
`19:55.44`	`JerJer`	`and precicely what you want it to do`
`19:55.48`	`JerJer`	`want/expect`
`19:56.02`	`stoffell`	`delox; snom does it`
`19:56.08`	`bjohnson`	`better include "service in under 2 minutes"`
`19:56.15`	`delox99`	`using presence?`
`19:56.31`	`delox99`	`and i also wanted to ask about call pickup`
`19:56.40`	`blitzrage`	`delox99: check the mailing lists for a posting by Olle E. Johansson regarding presence, IM, etc... from a couple of days ago`
`19:56.49`	`modulus_`	`jerjer, well i have a client (he's a fanook) who wants to use it for 1-900-FANOOKS numbers`
`19:56.51`	`delox99`	`lets say line 1 on 4 phones is rigning`
`19:56.54`	`justinu`	`lol`
`19:57.01`	`JerJer`	`thank you, drive-thru`
`19:57.04`	`JerJer`	`hell no`
`19:57.04`	`delox99`	`one phone pickup the call`
`19:57.11`	`delox99`	`then puts the call on hold`
`19:57.22`	`modulus_`	`i'd be saving him a LOT of cash using ass-tricks`
`19:57.25`	`modulus_`	`i mean asterisk`
`19:57.29`	`delox99`	`will pressing the line in use on another phone will pickup the call?`
`19:57.43`	`blitzrage`	`delox99: you either want call parking or transfer it sounds like`
`19:58.02`	`justinu`	`he's talking about shared line appearences`
`19:58.08`	`blitzrage`	`oh nevermind then :)`
`19:58.22`	`pfn`	`hmm, tdm2400 has echo can? how hard would that be to retrofit into an upgrade to a tdm400?`
`19:58.51`	`blitzrage`	`pfn: don't think you can because of a lack of connector... other than that, I've no idea`
`19:59.13`	`justinu`	`so how can I make * respond to and inbound call with 183 Session Progress and early media (like a custom ringback tone)`
`19:59.29`	`modulus_`	`justinu i don't know all that terminology`
`19:59.33`	`modulus_`	`what're you trying to do?`
`19:59.33`	`delox99`	`yeah call parking sounds good but by reading on the subject, it seems that when parking calls, you unfortunately have to dial *8 then the parking number which is not ideal`
`19:59.58`	`justinu`	`i want to play custom ringback tones`
`20:00.10`	`justinu`	`like music and shit for the script kiddies`
`20:00.28`	`modulus_`	`do your phones support it?`
`20:00.36`	`justinu`	`it's for a PSTN gateway`
`20:01.10`	`modulus_`	`interesting`
`20:01.11`	`justinu`	`pstn gateway calls me, i tell them "yeah, phone is ringing, but play this audio while you wait for the person to answer"`
`20:01.17`	`delox99`	`can you have asterisk park calls on a parking extension you choose?`
`20:01.23`	`Oryn`	`anyone know how to make ether a custom vm message or have it not say the extension number?`
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`20:02.55`	`zoo`	`I need to lookup a hostname and return it to a variable. How can I do that? system() does not work for this (according to how i understand the manual)`
`20:02.56`	`bjohnson`	`record a message`
`20:03.27`	`shmaltz`	`zoo, try agi`
`20:03.53`	`modulus_`	`justinu, you can't do it with background music?`
`20:04.20`	`justinu`	`i dunno`
`20:04.36`	`justinu`	`i was just looking at chan_sip.c to see how to make it respond w/ 183 vs. 180`
`20:05.02`	`bjohnson`	`doesn't dial() have that as an option?`
`20:05.06`	`justinu`	`i tried that`
`20:05.08`	`bjohnson`	`ie to play a file`
`20:05.16`	`shmaltz`	`zoo app_backticks here will do:`
`20:05.17`	`shmaltz`	`http://www.pbxfreeware.org/`
`20:05.19`	`modulus_`	`oh yeah there's a flag for that`
`20:05.24`	`justinu`	`adding "r" to the dial plan, i figured that would do it`
`20:05.32`	`bjohnson`	`that's a ring`
`20:05.33`	`modulus_`	`that just sends a ring`
`20:05.37`	`justinu`	`right now I don't care if it plays a standard ring`
`20:05.39`	`modulus_`	`you could replace the .gsm file maybe`
`20:05.40`	`bjohnson`	`I thought there was another parameer`
`20:05.42`	`justinu`	`i just want to see the early media happen`
`20:05.43`	`zoo`	`shmaltz: that sounds good`
`20:05.58`	`bjohnson`	`I don't know what early media means`
`20:06.07`	`lesouvage`	`Use m in dial and you will soh for as long the other phone isn't ringing`
`20:06.26`	`justinu`	`early media means that the UA sends rtp before the call is answered`
`20:06.39`	`justinu`	`one way rtp`
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`20:06.59`	`bjohnson`	`'A(x)' -- play an announcement to the called party, using x as file`
`20:06.59`	`bjohnson`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:07.13`	`justinu`	`that's not what I have in mind`
`20:07.18`	`bjohnson`	`or maybe not .. you want it to go to the caller, not the callee`
`20:07.22`	`justinu`	`yep`
`20:07.29`	`modulus_`	`like the cellphone options`
`20:07.31`	`lesouvage`	`bjohnsons: see http://www.dis.org.nz/asterisk/Dial.txt`
`20:07.42`	`bjohnson`	`like lesouvage said, maybe a custom moh?`
`20:08.42`	`bjohnson`	`lesouvage: that looks the same as what asterisk tells me with show application dial`
`20:08.55`	`justinu`	`apparently, I don't want R`
`20:09.06`	`justinu`	`i'll try M`
`20:09.14`	`justinu`	`er m`
`20:09.36`	`lesouvage`	`modules: what do you mean with cellphone options?`
`20:10.58`	`bjohnson`	`justinu: remember that you can have different moh configured for different purposes`
`20:11.23`	`justinu`	`that did it, thanks`
`20:11.36`	`justinu`	`lunch time`
`20:12.09`	`dahunter`	`Anyone do any contract work?`
`20:12.21`	`bjohnson`	`yes`
`20:12.32`	`Flauto`	`da, what kind of contract work`
`20:12.34`	`bjohnson`	`you need someone "taken out"?`
`20:12.34`	`zoo`	`shmaltz: it does not compile here :( does it run with asterisk 1.0.9?`
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`20:12.59`	`shmaltz`	`zoo, could be only with HEAD, im not sure`
`20:13.00`	`Flauto`	`zoo, what are you trying to do`
`20:13.09`	`shmaltz`	`zoo, how you comiling it?`
`20:13.14`	`dahunter`	`I need someone to set up a SIP extension on an asterisk server and also have an IAX connection go from one asterisk box to another (where the SIP phone is)`
`20:13.28`	`shmaltz`	`you shoudl use astxs to compile it`
`20:13.30`	`zoo`	`Flauto: gcc app_backticks.c`
`20:13.52`	`Flauto`	`what operating system you are using`
`20:13.57`	`znoGG`	`hi guys. how do you configure the contexts for the channels in zaptel.conf? I tried: context=whatever\nsignalling=fxo_ls\channel => 8 and it works for the first channel, but the context seems to be set for all the following channels too.`
`20:13.59`	`zoo`	`Flauto: linux`
`20:14.05`	`bjohnson`	`dahunter: i can't do it for a couple of days`
`20:14.08`	`Flauto`	`da, it is pretty easy, you can do it yourself`
`20:14.19`	`Flauto`	`zoo, i know it is linux, but what kind of linux`
`20:14.29`	`dahunter`	`I don't have time...`
`20:14.30`	`zoo`	`Flauto: debian unstable`
`20:14.31`	`Flauto`	`fedora, mandriva,`
`20:14.36`	`Flauto`	`hmmm.`
`20:14.37`	`bjohnson`	`dahunter: ssh connection to both boxes?`
`20:14.45`	`dahunter`	`bjoh: yup`
`20:14.51`	`Flauto`	`i never used debian, so i don;t know much about it`
`20:15.01`	`Flauto`	`but you can read on voip-info.org`
`20:15.12`	`zoo`	`Flauto: asterisk compiles, just app_backticks doesn't`
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`20:16.22`	`Flauto`	`for setting up sip phone, you need to go to sip.conf`
`20:16.36`	`Flauto`	`da, i can do it if you want me to`
`20:16.57`	`Flauto`	`oh, bj is doing it fo ryou. then you are ste`
`20:17.19`	`Flauto`	`zoo, i am sorry i don't know then, i never had that problem`
`20:17.36`	`bjohnson`	`dahunter: i can't do it for a couple of days`
`20:17.43`	`zoo`	`Flauto: that is a additional app. never mind`
`20:17.45`	`bjohnson`	`dahunter: so you could use Flauto`
`20:18.12`	`dahunter`	`bjohnson: What's an URL about Flauto?`
`20:19.01`	`bjohnson`	`dahunter: the user ... Flauto`
`20:19.21`	`bjohnson`	`I'm not talking about an app`
`20:19.34`	`znoGG`	`signalling=fxs_ls`
`20:19.35`	`znoGG`	`context=entrante`
`20:19.35`	`znoGG`	`channel => 5`
`20:19.44`	`znoGG`	`should that not send incoming calls to context entrante?`
`20:19.51`	`lesouvage`	`znoGG-> there seem to be a group something like [group 2] with some channels . If you use Dial(ZAP/g2/4312341341) it will try all the channels in the group.`
`20:19.51`	`Flauto`	`hehe`
`20:19.54`	`Flauto`	`it is okay`
`20:20.14`	`lesouvage`	`znoGG: look in Zapata.conf`
`20:20.17`	`znoGG`	`lesouvage: yep, but i have an incoming call on channel 5, which seems to be using the context for another channel`
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`20:20.45`	`znoGG`	`lesouvage: i think i found the prob`
`20:20.52`	`fulgas`	`hey`
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`20:23.45`	`rajesh`	`i think i'm missing somethin. i need to qualify all my outgoing calls with a <sip:number@server>`
`20:24.02`	`rajesh`	`:(`
`20:24.13`	`shmaltz`	`anybody know of any way I can record a streaming video to a mpeg file?`
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`20:26.56`	`lesouvage`	`Can some off you please look at http://pastebin.com/408178 . Asterisks keeps ringing and doesn't return to the context.`
`20:27.38`	`lesouvage`	`shmaltz: I f you run Macos there is a tool that records everything that passes the soundcard.`
`20:28.09`	`shmaltz`	`lesouvage, I know (there is also total recorder for that) but I'm looking for VGA`
`20:29.11`	`stoffell`	`lesouvage, already tried without the 'r' ?`
`20:30.02`	`Flauto`	`da, ar eyou there`
`20:30.10`	`Flauto`	`i was replying you at the other room`
`20:30.17`	`file`	`lesouvage: you do realize that once that dial is answered, it bridges them and doesn't continue you in the dial plan?`
`20:30.24`	`file`	`just like yeah`
`20:30.46`	`lesouvage`	`stoffell: yes, I start to be a real dial command expert`
`20:31.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`shmaltz: like how?`
`20:31.03`	`stoffell`	`okay ;)`
`20:31.05`	`file`	`lesouvage: what does the CLI say when you try it?`
`20:31.07`	`lesouvage`	`file: With answered you mean picked up or ringing.`
`20:31.21`	`file`	`picked up, I was thinking you were trying to do something different`
`20:31.55`	`shmaltz`	`iCEBrkr, like this:`
`20:31.57`	`shmaltz`	`http://www.wmrecorder.com/`
`20:32.12`	`stoffell`	`lesouvage, don't know then, good luck, if you find it, post on voip-info please ... gotta go , bya`
`20:32.18`	`lesouvage`	`file: what I'm trying is make the celphone ring and if it isn't answered within 10 seconds go on with the next priority.`
`20:32.49`	`iCEBrkr`	`shmaltz: Ahhh. Nevermind, I thought you wanted to capture the whole screen`
`20:33.10`	`lesouvage`	`file: the problem is that it keeps rining until the voicemail of the provider picks up the phone.`
`20:33.28`	`iCEBrkr`	`shmaltz: Hell, it's only $50`
`20:34.00`	`lesouvage`	`file: that takes about 15 seconds, more then 10 seconds for sure.`
`20:34.23`	`denon`	`lesouvage: are you specifying the 10 seconds?`
`20:34.27`	`denon`	`show application dial`
`20:35.10`	`lesouvage`	`denon: it's on http://pastebin.com/408178 .`
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`20:35.45`	`pauldy`	`shmaltz, I think the linux vlan project will allow you to do what your asking about`
`20:35.50`	`file`	`lesouvage: pastebin what it says on your screen - screen being the asterisk console`
`20:36.14`	`lesouvage`	`file: thanks, wait a second`
`20:36.18`	`shmaltz`	`pauldy, I need it for windoz`
`20:36.35`	`pauldy`	`I thinkt here is a windows compiled binary is there not`
`20:37.51`	`pauldy`	`http://www.videolan.org/vlc/`
`20:38.14`	`pauldy`	`might check the docs but I've used it to capture mp3 streams and I think it will do the same for all supported media types`
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`20:40.28`	`lesouvage`	`file: the cli output is on http://pastebin.com/408194`
`20:41.20`	`file`	`lesouvage: it's working perfectly fine`
`20:41.28`	`bjohnson`	`pauldy: if it is a internet stream, he can just write it to file directly iirc`
`20:41.30`	`file`	`is it going out an analog card?`
`20:41.37`	`bjohnson`	`shmaltz: 66`
`20:41.42`	`bjohnson`	`shmaltz: ^^`
`20:42.05`	`lesouvage`	`file: Yes but Asterisk can't count to 10, It should return to the context and jump to a voice-menu`
`20:42.11`	`znoGG`	`if I do: Dial(Zap/g2), how do I make it dial every phone in the group?`
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`20:42.15`	`bjohnson`	`shmaltz: google for how to use your linux box. I think you can just cat it to a file`
`20:42.33`	`file`	`lesouvage: on analog asterisk doesn't know the status of the call usually, it doesn't know whether it's ringing`
`20:42.40`	`shmaltz`	`bjohnson, I'm using windowz at the moment`
`20:42.48`	`file`	`lesouvage: so it immediately comes up as answered`
`20:42.59`	`bjohnson`	`asterisk runs on windows?`
`20:43.06`	`file`	`lesouvage: you can turn on callprogress, which will make asterisk guess at what's going on with the call (ringing/etc), but it may disconnect your calls randomly`
`20:43.14`	`bjohnson`	`I wonder if that is considered progress`
`20:43.46`	`pauldy`	`bjohnson, it might work unless it is a udp stream then you have to have logic to make sure file integrity is ok`
`20:44.30`	`pauldy`	`wouldn't want a dropped packet to make the file format invalid`
`20:45.53`	`JonR800`	`does anyone have cid_rewrite working?`
`20:46.09`	`pauldy`	`I do for incomming calls`
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`20:46.46`	`JonR800`	`okay, so then it must be something with my setup.. it keeps setting calls to "unknown".. i thought maybe 411 or google changed the format and messed up the parser.`
`20:47.22`	`lesouvage`	`file: but it seems such a standard problem. Someone wants to have is office phone ring then his cellphone and if that isn't picked up give a voicemail option. This is what people asking for.`
`20:48.18`	`lesouvage`	`file: I will look into the callprogress option, Thanks`
`20:48.25`	`pauldy`	`JonR800, are you using soem kind of module or just parsing incomming cid info and appending to it as needed?`
`20:48.27`	`file`	`lesouvage: it's not something that can be easily fixed with what you have`
`20:48.37`	`file`	`lesouvage: and on digital stuff, it's not a problem`
`20:48.40`	`znoGG`	`guys, how do I dial all channels in a Zap group?`
`20:48.46`	`file`	`analog just isn't that good`
`20:48.47`	`znoGG`	`Dial(Zap/g1) seems to dial the first available`
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`20:49.02`	`file`	`znoGG: you dial them all separately?`
`20:49.05`	`znoGG`	`argh`
`20:49.17`	`znoGG`	`i was hoping that wouldn't be the case :)`
`20:49.23`	`JonR800`	`pauldy: im using the cid_rewrite app by Jay Milk.. if that's what you mean... it's parsing incoming calls from my sip provider`
`20:49.28`	`Aughey`	`znoGG: why?`
`20:49.36`	`shmaltz`	`znoGG, just doing dial(zap/g1&zap/g1) and repeat to as many channels that you have should do`
`20:49.36`	`Aughey`	`znogg: er, why do you want to do this?`
`20:49.50`	`znoGG`	`Aughey: because i have a few phones connected to a TDM card and I want to dial them all`
`20:50.17`	`shmaltz`	`znoGG, the best way to do that is usualy with queues`
`20:50.36`	`JonR800`	`pauldy: it's able to pull the number just fine, i see that in the agi debug.. but somewhere in the lookup/parse of 411.com / google.com it fails .. at least i think :)`
`20:51.23`	`pauldy`	`yea I have my own I do using dbget dbput`
`20:51.32`	`znoGG`	`shmaltz: yea, it was for testing mainly.. i would use a queue otherwise`
`20:51.41`	`JonR800`	`so you populate it with your own data then? it's not automatic?`
`20:51.42`	`znoGG`	`shmaltz: i thought i could prefix a different letter instead of "g" to dial all`
`20:51.53`	`shmaltz`	`nah, no such thing`
`20:52.02`	`pauldy`	`pretty much never thoguht to try and integrate with an internet service`
`20:52.47`	`JonR800`	`pauldy: http://www.muware.com/asterisk/ it's a really good idea, it's just not working for me at the moment`
`20:54.57`	`pauldy`	`hrm credit card dispute on the url?`
`20:56.00`	`JonR800`	`?`
`20:56.13`	`Nugget`	`livevoip.pdf, he means.`
`20:57.11`	`shmaltz`	`http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/10/27/D8DGIIV85.html`
`20:57.13`	`shmaltz`	`With this system I believe if WalMart deploys asterisk, a hacker should be able to order new shipments of condoms very easy`
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`20:58.42`	`Nugget`	`fallacy. linux hackers don't have sex.`
`20:59.13`	`Nugget`	`besides, fedex won't deliver to "my parents' basement"`
`21:00.21`	`\|Vulutre\|`	`Nugget: just rename your basement as Appt. 101`
`21:00.23`	`\|Vulutre\|`	`:P`
`21:00.27`	`Corydon-w`	`and do you honestly know anybody who can go through a carton of condoms before half of them expire?`
`21:00.28`	`Nugget`	`"unit b" :)`
`21:00.46`	`pauldy`	`just register it with your local post office`
`21:00.48`	`\|Vulutre\|`	`Corydon-w: how many condoms are in a carton?`
`21:01.03`	`Corydon-w`	`Several hundred`
`21:01.04`	`lo_tech`	`Cory, do they have to be unix-knowledgeble? or just anyone?`
`21:01.06`	`\|Vulutre\|`	`damn`
`21:01.08`	`\|Vulutre\|`	`no way`
`21:01.08`	`shmaltz`	`Nugget, they do, with their computers`
`21:01.09`	`pauldy`	`course they make you buy your own mailbox the bastages`
`21:01.27`	`Nugget`	`shmaltz: http://slacker.com/photos/strange/joyoftech115`
`21:01.35`	`\|Vulutre\|`	`Corydon-w: plus I don't think they make cartons of Trojan ultra-thins`
`21:01.48`	`JonR800`	`condoms last for years`
`21:02.00`	`Corydon-w`	`Yeah, about 3 years`
`21:02.06`	`shmaltz`	`anyhow, it was meant for delivery to the wal mart not your moms basement`
`21:02.38`	`JonR800`	`if you have a gf a carton shouldn't be that difficult`
`21:02.44`	`JonR800`	`wife or single, then you're in trouble`
`21:02.46`	`Alric`	`Anyone had problems with a Polycom freezing up when left in DND mode?`
`21:02.54`	`Corydon-w`	`Still, how many people do you know who have sex with a different person every day, for a year or more?`
`21:03.03`	`flok420`	`hi, I constantly get "registration failed" when SJphone tries to register; the realm ('proxy domain' in jsphone?) as well as the user and password are definately correct. what could it be?`
`21:03.07`	`Alric`	`Possibly only the Polycom 301. I don't have users using the other models.`
`21:03.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Alric : I think I've run across that. Also when calling voicemailmain, putting on hold and trying to get back does it too`
`21:03.35`	`shmaltz`	`JonR800, I have never used a condom before so I have no clue how many in a carton, since I'm married I can try to confirm this, how many to a carton?`
`21:03.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I use IP 600's here`
`21:03.49`	`JonR800`	`Corydon-w: none..`
`21:03.53`	`\|Vulutre\|`	`50x here`
`21:03.57`	`Alric`	`TKD: Any solution? :)`
`21:04.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Cisco? ;)`
`21:04.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:p`
`21:04.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Really no idea.... I'm just trying to keep the wolves at bay her about our * problems (some telco, some GUI related.`
`21:04.42`	`\|Vulutre\|`	`Anyone try "Third Lane Asterisk PBX Manager"`
`21:04.42`	`JonR800`	`shmaltz: 1000 it seems.`
`21:05.10`	`shmaltz`	`JonR800, it will take about 6 yrs to do 1000`
`21:05.12`	`Alric`	`TKD: Yeah, I know the feeling.`
`21:05.28`	`lesouvage`	`lesouvage: anyone tried the third lane outlook dialer`
`21:05.31`	`shmaltz`	`~3 time a week makes for 165 to a yr`
`21:05.49`	`shmaltz`	`\|Vulutre\|, it should be OK`
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`21:05.58`	`JonR800`	`haha.. well that proves the point.. you'd only be half way through the carton by the time they expired`
`21:06.30`	`Broom`	`hello all, I am still having the issue with calls through Zap channels utilizing SIP(Xlite) phones, I can hear the person I called but they can not hear me. Any ideas?`
`21:06.32`	`lo_tech`	`depends on what you use em for...`
`21:06.36`	`shmaltz`	`Jon800, how many times with a fg?`
`21:06.48`	`shmaltz`	`Broon, yeah, nat`
`21:06.53`	`Broom`	`i'm not usint nat`
`21:07.04`	`JonR800`	`lo_tech: what would you use em for? party favors? balloon animals?`
`21:07.08`	`lesouvage`	`Broom: firewall`
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`21:07.09`	`Broom`	`both the * server and the client not utilizin nat`
`21:07.10`	`terrapen`	`howdy`
`21:07.12`	`Broom`	`no firewall either`
`21:07.18`	`lo_tech`	`watter balloon fights?`
`21:07.22`	`shmaltz`	`Broom, both on local LAN?`
`21:07.26`	`Broom`	`yup`
`21:07.28`	`Broom`	`same ip subnet`
`21:07.33`	`terrapen`	`so what's the en vogue SIP phone these days?`
`21:07.37`	`JonR800`	`haha`
`21:07.47`	`terrapen`	`I need something that is business-quality and easy to set up and maintain`
`21:07.49`	`shmaltz`	`Broom, is asterisk configured to communicate with any nat devices?`
`21:07.59`	`shmaltz`	`or is xlite configured as such?`
`21:08.12`	`shmaltz`	`or is nat=yes enabled in sip.conf?`
`21:08.12`	`Broom`	`well, asterisk has in the [general] nat=no`
`21:08.18`	`Broom`	`nat=yes is in the sip.conf`
`21:08.24`	`shmaltz`	`do a grep for nat on /etc/asterisk/*`
`21:08.55`	`Broom`	`yes there are nat=yes entries`
`21:09.23`	`Broom`	`the sip clients that will be using this * when I get this fixed`
`21:09.24`	`Broom`	`;)`
`21:09.37`	`Broom`	`the windows firewall, does it affect?`
`21:11.03`	`shmaltz`	`yeah, disalbe any firewalls you might have any where fot the test`
`21:11.31`	`Broom`	`ok, on it`
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`21:13.14`	`Broom`	`ok, trying without firewall/nat`
`21:13.20`	`Broom`	`with the nat=no option on the sip client`
`21:13.23`	`Broom`	`config`
`21:13.35`	`Broom`	`didnt work`
`21:13.41`	`Broom`	`still they cant hear me`
`21:13.58`	`Broom`	`in host i have dynamic`
`21:14.00`	`Broom`	`is that ok?`
`21:15.43`	`shmaltz`	`Broom, dynamic shouldnt bother`
`21:16.06`	`lesouvage`	`file: should I add "callprogress=yes" in the channel context of zapata.conf.`
`21:17.33`	`Broom`	`hurm... any other ideas?`
`21:18.32`	`lesouvage`	`Broom: I have xlite up and running on my apple IBook. We can compare the settings`
`21:18.57`	`Broom`	`ok`
`21:19.24`	`Broom`	`where shall we start?`
`21:21.20`	`lesouvage`	`Broom: I opened a private room. Do you see it. We can exchange the info there.`
`21:22.11`	`JerJer`	`Broom: I was about to proove 1+1 = 3`
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`21:22.28`	`Broom`	`what?`
`21:24.28`	`Alric`	`Go Apple iBook!`
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`21:27.36`	`FuriousGeorge`	`hey all`
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`21:32.06`	`buddah`	`does call forwarding only work with certain codecs?`
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`21:32.37`	`buddah`	`when i have a polycom set to disallow=all,allow=ulaw, i call the did, and it screeches and floods CLI with this`
`21:32.38`	`buddah`	`Oct 27 13:36:02 NOTICE[21997]: channel.c:1584 ast_read: Dropping incompatible voice frame on Local/15622126796@international-d3db,2 of format slin since our native format has changed to ulaw`
`21:32.49`	`buddah`	`but if its allow=g729, it doesnt do that`
`21:32.51`	`buddah`	`any idea?`
`21:33.14`	`Oryn`	`is there a command to wait ie do nothing for say, 30 seconds? (I want to give a change for an extention T'd off the trunk to be answered before asterisk gets the call`
`21:34.35`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i would very much appreciate it if someone could tell me why this little part of my dialplan is not forewarding calls`
`21:34.36`	`FuriousGeorge`	`http://pastebin.ca/26860`
`21:34.42`	`FuriousGeorge`	`im starting to think i ahve a bug`
`21:34.57`	`mishehu`	`bah.`
`21:34.58`	`FuriousGeorge`	`buddah: its called wait(30)`
`21:35.09`	`Oryn`	`hehe`
`21:35.10`	`Oryn`	`thanks`
`21:35.23`	`buddah`	`ok`
`21:35.28`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i mean Oryn :) not buddah:)`
`21:35.31`	`buddah`	`ahh`
`21:35.34`	`buddah`	`was wondering`
`21:35.49`	`buddah`	`i wish i didnt have to use g729 though`
`21:35.53`	`buddah`	`for this forwarding`
`21:36.05`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i use ulaw and i got no problem forewarding`
`21:36.20`	`buddah`	`well on the polycom menu for forwarding, i set my #`
`21:36.23`	`buddah`	`then enable`
`21:36.38`	`buddah`	`and when i call it gives a HORRID screeching sound, and i get error galore on the CLI`
`21:36.40`	`buddah`	`i dont get it`
`21:36.40`	`FuriousGeorge`	`buddah, im not certain but this sounds like it has something to do with passthrough mode on g729`
`21:36.56`	`buddah`	`but it screeches on ulaw, not g729`
`21:36.58`	`ender`	`FuriousGeorge: I don't see anyproblem w/ the forwarding, it sounds to me that perhaps you have a problem w/ zap lines talking to eachother.`
`21:37.14`	`ender`	`FuriousGeorge: it isn't the dialplan, are you sure you're using the right signaling and such on your zap lines?`
`21:37.28`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ender: im just taking a stab at buddah's issue. im sure.`
`21:37.43`	`FuriousGeorge`	`im sure i got zap/3 set up as fxo_ks`
`21:37.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`cuz its an fxs`
`21:38.18`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ender: plus zap/3 can take and make calls last i ehard`
`21:38.27`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`an fxs needs fxo signallng`
`21:38.35`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`ok`
`21:38.44`	`ender`	`FuriousGeorge: ok. I don't think it is anythign to do w/ the 'forwarding'.`
`21:39.06`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ender: forewarding was buddah's issue, not mine. i dont know what my problem is`
`21:39.11`	`FuriousGeorge`	`karma, maybe`
`21:39.14`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i dunno`
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`21:40.07`	`hypa7ia`	`to anyone in toronto who hasn't heard, TAUG (Toronto Asterisk Users Group) is tonight: http://taug.ca`
`21:40.26`	`FuriousGeorge`	`this is the second time i have an fxo module that has problems picking up the line inexplicably`
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`21:40.40`	`mog_home`	`we have one of those in huntsville hypa7ai`
`21:40.43`	`mog_home`	`its called digium`
`21:40.51`	`SwK[Work]`	`mog_home: y0 y0`
`21:40.55`	`ender`	`<FuriousGeorge> i would very much appreciate it if someone could tell me why this little part of my dialplan is not forewarding calls`
`21:41.08`	`twisted[asteria]`	`mog_home, hah`
`21:41.16`	`mog_home`	`hey swk`
`21:41.18`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ender: i see what you mean. im not talking about forewarding like that`
`21:41.22`	`ender`	`ok`
`21:41.26`	`*** join/#asterisk scoates (n=sean@iconoclast.caedmon.net)`
`21:41.29`	`file[laptop]`	`ugh my head hurts`
`21:41.34`	`*** join/#asterisk zoa (n=zoa@pirus.securax.be)`
`21:41.36`	`zoa`	`hey hooooooooo`
`21:41.41`	`twisted[asteria]`	`zoa`
`21:41.43`	`buddah`	`weird`
`21:41.43`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ender: still you agree it should work, right?`
`21:41.47`	`file[laptop]`	`zoa: not so loud, my heart hurts`
`21:41.47`	`zoa`	`hey look its twisted!`
`21:41.48`	`buddah`	`got it working`
`21:41.48`	`twisted[asteria]`	`you or davey one got me sick`
`21:41.50`	`twisted[asteria]`	`bastards.`
`21:41.55`	`buddah`	`had to take the disallow/allow out`
`21:41.59`	`zoa`	`i was not sick, so i didnt do it`
`21:42.04`	`twisted[asteria]`	`ahhok`
`21:42.07`	`twisted[asteria]`	`must have been davey :P`
`21:42.09`	`twisted[asteria]`	`one of you had something`
`21:42.13`	`ender`	`FuriousGeorge: sure. it seems that for some reason though, it isn't liking looping zap to zap.`
`21:42.13`	`twisted[asteria]`	`just couldn't remember which`
`21:42.17`	`zoa`	`you are lucky you didnt get aids from cpt crunch`
`21:42.24`	`twisted[asteria]`	`ouch`
`21:42.25`	`hypa7ia`	`mog_home: but TAUG has the advantage of being in toronto :-)`
`21:42.33`	`mog_home`	`ahh true true`
`21:42.34`	`zoa`	`i lost my cellphone there`
`21:42.38`	`zoa`	`and a bag`
`21:42.42`	`ender`	`FuriousGeorge: try hard setting an audio codec to use?`
`21:42.43`	`twisted[asteria]`	`hypa7ia, oh, you mean, you make snow astrices?`
`21:42.43`	`zoa`	`still trying to remember what was in the bad`
`21:42.46`	`hypa7ia`	`haha oh christ that man is creepy`
`21:42.51`	`ender`	`FuriousGeorge: instead of letting it native bridge?`
`21:42.59`	`hypa7ia`	`twisted[asteria]: in our igloos`
`21:43.14`	`twisted[asteria]`	`hypa7ia, :P`
`21:43.28`	`hypa7ia`	`twisted[asteria]: <3`
`21:43.28`	`file[laptop]`	`I'm in bed, but I'm a geek so I'm IRCing from here too`
`21:43.29`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: i can't ping hostnames from linux.`
`21:43.30`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: why`
`21:43.32`	`zoa`	`hmm, lets see, what should i release this week`
`21:43.36`	`twisted[asteria]`	`Katty, dns`
`21:43.39`	`twisted[asteria]`	`hypa7ia, ;)`
`21:43.42`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: where do i edit dns?`
`21:43.49`	`twisted[asteria]`	`Katty, /etc/resolv.conf`
`21:44.14`	`zoa`	`twisted: when are you coming to europe ?`
`21:44.20`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: it gives the nameserver (firewall) internal ip`
`21:44.27`	`*** join/#asterisk r0d3nt (i=r0d3nt@66.0.156.250)`
`21:44.30`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: and that's /it/`
`21:44.32`	`twisted[asteria]`	`zoa, whenever you pay for the trip`
`21:44.45`	`zoa`	`hmm, well i can pay for the staying / eating part`
`21:44.56`	`twisted[asteria]`	`Katty, then that's what either the admin or the dhcp server said the dns server was`
`21:44.58`	`ender`	`Katty: ping the ip listed in /etc/resolv.conf`
`21:45.01`	`zoa`	`but i cant for the plane :/`
`21:45.11`	`X-Rob`	`katty - RTFM. man resolv.conf`
`21:45.16`	`twisted[asteria]`	`zoa, ah.. that'd be the part that makes my checkbook catch on fire`
`21:45.21`	`*** join/#asterisk KrayZK (n=ykhan3@203.99.57.76)`
`21:45.22`	`file[laptop]`	`I think Katty wants to be able to ping based on the NetBIOS name... like you can on Windows`
`21:45.23`	`zoa`	`yeah probably`
`21:45.34`	`zoa`	`although i got to astricon for 800 euro`
`21:45.36`	`zoa`	`thats not too bad`
`21:45.38`	`scoates`	`when I transfer (from my iax phone) after receiving a call to my extension (with the t option), can I set the context? (ie, I want to transfer to "777" (an extension), but the context seems to be all wrong...`
`21:45.38`	`KrayZK`	`Hello all!`
`21:45.46`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: how do i match an ip to a hostname?`
`21:45.47`	`twisted[asteria]`	`zoa, that's what, about 1100 USD?`
`21:45.54`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: and make it automatic`
`21:45.55`	`twisted[asteria]`	`Katty, with dns, or your /etc/hosts file`
`21:45.57`	`zoa`	`a 1000$ probably`
`21:45.59`	`file[laptop]`	`Katty: /etc/hosts - it's a good place`
`21:46.02`	`twisted[asteria]`	`zoa, ah`
`21:46.07`	`KrayZK`	`I have a codec problem....Is there anyone here that can help me?`
`21:46.10`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: i don't understand.`
`21:46.18`	`zoa`	`its probably still cheaper than staying in the state`
`21:46.19`	`zoa`	`s`
`21:46.24`	`zoa`	`its so damn expensive there`
`21:46.26`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: you're telling me that actual workstation linux box houses the information to let me ping hostnames?`
`21:46.33`	`twisted[asteria]`	`it can`
`21:46.38`	`twisted[asteria]`	`if you put them in /etc/hosts`
`21:46.38`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ender: no i havent tried that`
`21:46.43`	`twisted[asteria]`	`otherwise, your dns server will`
`21:46.46`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: but how does that update the ips then`
`21:46.56`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ender: but heres the really wierd part, when i call the other did (zap/2) it works`
`21:47.02`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: all our windows boxes are on automatic..i can't manually update all that`
`21:47.02`	`scoates`	`Katty: tried nmblookup?`
`21:47.11`	`twisted[asteria]`	`ooooh`
`21:47.14`	`twisted[asteria]`	`so you ARE wanting netbios names`
`21:47.19`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: yes`
`21:47.22`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: ping 'jeff' gives me nothing`
`21:47.23`	`twisted[asteria]`	`haha, can't do that`
`21:47.31`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: lies.`
`21:47.36`	`\|Vulutre\|`	`http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZchuckp23 if anyone is interested in used TDMs or a new TE110P`
`21:47.37`	`ender`	`heh`
`21:47.37`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: to smbclient -M jeff i must`
`21:47.39`	`zoa`	`sure you can`
`21:47.45`	`ender`	`netbios names != DNS names.`
`21:47.51`	`twisted[asteria]`	`they're not the same thing`
`21:47.53`	`X-Rob`	`Katty - get your DHCP server to update the DNS, that's about the best youc an do.`
`21:47.58`	`zoa`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:48.01`	`twisted[asteria]`	`for linux to be aware of netbios names it would have to natively speak netbios`
`21:48.02`	`zoa`	`good stuff those cards`
`21:48.05`	`twisted[asteria]`	`which it does not`
`21:48.05`	`Katty`	`in case you guys haven't noticed, i'm ignoring you.`
`21:48.09`	`ender`	`nmblookup //jeff ?`
`21:48.15`	`*** part/#asterisk santiago (n=santiago@208.195.215.158)`
`21:48.20`	`\|Vulutre\|`	`zoa: hmm maybe it needs time I just put them up 1 min`
`21:48.21`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: how do i make it talk to netbios names?`
`21:48.34`	`KrayZK`	`Has anyone seen a error like channel.c:1314 ast_read:Dropping incompatible voice frame.....of format slin since our native format has changed to gsm???`
`21:48.34`	`\|Vulutre\|`	`yea it should work`
`21:48.37`	`twisted[asteria]`	`samba`
`21:48.37`	`Igbothom_III`	`netbios is evil`
`21:48.39`	`Igbothom_III`	`use DNS`
`21:48.41`	`twisted[asteria]`	`and then it's not native`
`21:48.41`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: samba is installed.`
`21:48.57`	`SwK[Work]`	`Katty: turn the wins server on samba on if you havent do so already`
`21:48.57`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: and working...i am sharing a few directories with windows boxes`
`21:49.11`	`KrayZK`	`Anyone please???`
`21:49.12`	`Katty`	`SwK[Work]: slow down, cowboy. you're talking over my head :)`
`21:49.17`	`Katty`	`SwK[Work]: this is why i asked twisted[asteria] ;)`
`21:49.22`	`twisted[asteria]`	`haha`
`21:49.25`	`justinu`	`here we go again...`
`21:49.49`	`*** join/#asterisk Timoti (n=asqsa@81.214.25.45)`
`21:49.50`	`Katty`	`and precisely why i'm ignoring everyone else. heh`
`21:49.53`	`Timoti`	`Hi`
`21:49.55`	`pauldy`	`install swat and you will have a nice pretty web page to turn it on in global config`
`21:49.58`	`KrayZK`	`I will remain forever indebted to the one who can assist`
`21:49.58`	`twisted[asteria]`	`i can't figure out which is funnier, my sheer hatred for MS and i'm giving advice on how to work with it, or SwK[Work] as a cowboy`
`21:49.59`	`X-Rob`	`you know, there's this stuff called VoIP. Apparently it lets you make phone calls over the internet.`
`21:50.00`	`KrayZK`	`Has anyone seen a error like channel.c:1314 ast_read:Dropping incompatible voice frame.....of format slin since our native format has changed to gsm???`
`21:50.01`	`KrayZK`	`Has anyone seen a error like channel.c:1314 ast_read:Dropping incompatible voice frame.....of format slin since our native format has changed to gsm???`
`21:50.05`	`*** kick/#asterisk [kram!n=twisted@asterisk/friend-and-developer/pdpc.professional.twisted] by twisted[asteria] (twisted[asteria])`
`21:50.07`	`twisted[asteria]`	`oops`
`21:50.08`	`ender`	`thanks`
`21:50.10`	`*** kick/#asterisk [KrayZK!n=twisted@asterisk/friend-and-developer/pdpc.professional.twisted] by twisted[asteria] (twisted[asteria])`
`21:50.12`	`\|Vulutre\|`	`wow there`
`21:50.14`	`twisted[asteria]`	`wrong person`
`21:50.14`	`Nugget`	`yeah. I've seen that error five times now. :)`
`21:50.14`	`\|Vulutre\|`	`lol`
`21:50.15`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: i have alpha setup as the wins server.`
`21:50.16`	`Timoti`	`does any one have VEGASTREAM products ?`
`21:50.21`	`eKo1`	`hahaha`
`21:50.34`	`X-Rob`	`you know, there's this stuff called VoIP. Apparently it lets you make phone calls over the internet.`
`21:50.37`	`eKo1`	`you kicked the really wrong person`
`21:50.37`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: how do i tell asterisk box's samba where the winserver is to (in theory) update the net bios names (am i following this right?)`
`21:50.50`	`scoates`	Katty: make a file called "winping", chmod +x it, and put this inside: ping `nmblookup $1 \| grep "<00>" \| awk {'print $1'}`
`21:50.56`	`Oryn`	`can you use the * key as an extention?`
`21:50.58`	`loud`	`yeah, he kicked mark`
`21:51.05`	`Katty`	`scoates: apparently you didn't read my last message.`
`21:51.10`	`twisted[asteria]`	`eKo1, i've banned him before.`
`21:51.11`	`loud`	`you are fired!`
`21:51.11`	`Katty`	`scoates: i am /not/ listening to you :)`
`21:51.15`	`zoa`	`haha he kicked mark`
`21:51.16`	`zoa`	`lol`
`21:51.20`	`Timoti`	`I need some information related VEGASTREAM products ... if someone has it ... pls let me now`
`21:51.21`	`Katty`	`scoates: what you say goes right over my head. you're wasting your time`
`21:51.22`	`twisted[asteria]`	`Katty, actually, scoates makes a good point`
`21:51.28`	`eKo1`	`twisted[asteria]: why?`
`21:51.30`	`scoates`	`heh`
`21:51.33`	`twisted[asteria]`	`eKo1, because I wanted to talk about him without him seeing it`
`21:51.34`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: it makes no point if i don't understand it.`
`21:51.42`	`zoa`	`timoti, contact telappliant`
`21:51.42`	`scoates`	`no, I was off writing you a script! (-:`
`21:51.45`	`zoa`	`i think they can help you`
`21:51.45`	`eKo1`	`lol`
`21:51.45`	`X-Rob`	`What part of 'make a script' don't you understand?`
`21:51.55`	`X-Rob`	`make, a, or script?`
`21:51.58`	`mog_home`	`hhey zoa`
`21:52.01`	`eKo1`	`Katty: man nmblookup`
`21:52.02`	`zoa`	`www.telappliant.com, ask for tan, tell him i sent you`
`21:52.03`	`twisted[asteria]`	`Katty, his script will lookup netbios names, and then ping the IP's that they come back as`
`21:52.07`	`mog_home`	`i have screenshots of that linksys if you want them`
`21:52.08`	`*** join/#asterisk KrayZK (n=ykhan3@203.99.57.76)`
`21:52.08`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: also, i have no control over dns. i have a wildcard that makes everything external ip`
`21:52.10`	`zoa`	`hhhey mog`
`21:52.14`	`mog_home`	`but i still cant get it to talk in the lan`
`21:52.16`	`mog_home`	`so it is lame`
`21:52.21`	`pauldy`	`Katty, in here discussing special relativity and string theory mention script and she goes into the fetal possition`
`21:53.29`	`KrayZK`	`it seems that there is noone hear either capable of helping me or does not have even a shred of decency to help a fellow human being`
`21:53.30`	`*** join/#asterisk r0d3nt (i=nobody@wsip-24-234-241-145.lv.lv.cox.net)`
`21:53.40`	`*** join/#asterisk Koshatul (n=evangeli@ip157.net65.ipnetworks.net.au)`
`21:53.55`	`pauldy`	`KrayZK, I vote no shred of decency`
`21:53.57`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: what if i change smb.conf 'wins client' to 192.168.0.2 (windows server running wins)`
`21:54.00`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: would that fix it?`
`21:54.02`	`X-Rob`	`KrayZK - you've destroyed any chance of help with your flood.`
`21:54.03`	`scoates`	`anyone know how to set the context of a transfer (after a Dial(..,..,tT)) ?`
`21:54.06`	`X-Rob`	`fuck off and come back in a couple of days.`
`21:54.16`	`twisted[asteria]`	`Katty, you still wont be able to ping hostnames from the 'ping' command, no.`
`21:54.16`	`X-Rob`	`peopel may have forgotten it by then.`
`21:54.22`	`twisted[asteria]`	`s/hostnames/netbios names`
`21:54.27`	`FuriousGeorge`	`im at my freakin witt's end with chan_zap.so`
`21:54.27`	`zoa`	`twisted is too good`
`21:54.35`	`pauldy`	`samab cannot be both a wins client and wins server btw`
`21:54.42`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: i don't need to ping`
`21:54.50`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: i just need to smbclient -M jeff`
`21:55.00`	`scoates`	`the only way to do that (that I know of) is to use a domain controller as your DNS server.`
`21:55.04`	`Katty`	`pauldy: i am well aware.`
`21:55.07`	`FuriousGeorge`	`im just gonna walk away from it and come back. if this ends up in another rma to digium i swear im never buying digium hw again`
`21:55.09`	`twisted[asteria]`	`smbclient (in theory) should be asking nmblookup where 'jeff' is.`
`21:55.21`	`twisted[asteria]`	`can you nmblookup jeff?`
`21:55.26`	`pauldy`	`just fyi I saw someone mention turning it into a wins server`
`21:55.29`	`KrayZK`	`please excuse the inexperienced`
`21:55.53`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: yes, i can`
`21:55.58`	`KrayZK`	`if only a someone would have said a simple hello....there would be no need for floods`
`21:56.09`	`zoa`	`does somebody know the 4th book about asterisk ?`
`21:56.13`	`twisted[asteria]`	`KrayZK, there is never a need for floods.`
`21:56.18`	`Timoti`	`Does anyone have VEGASTREAM products ?`
`21:56.21`	`X-Rob`	`KrayZK - there's never a 'need' for floods`
`21:56.30`	`twisted[asteria]`	`Katty, then i'm not sure... smbclient should get that info on it's own.`
`21:56.34`	`zoa`	`there is that stupid yellow book, then one by pact publishing, the one by oreilly`
`21:56.39`	`zoa`	`but what is the 4th one ?`
`21:56.39`	`X-Rob`	`if people are ignoring you, they think that the answer is easily available from google, or, they don't care about your problem.`
`21:56.55`	`pauldy`	`X-Rob, or they dont know`
`21:57.04`	`twisted[asteria]`	`have i mentioned today that I absolutely despise microsoft's "networking" stuff?`
`21:57.12`	`X-Rob`	`..or, yes, they don't know.`
`21:57.13`	`Alric`	`Does it really need mentioning?`
`21:57.15`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: yes.`
`21:57.19`	`KrayZK`	`ok, so then I'll just sit here till someone decides to be generous enough with their valuable time to say a simple hello....zzzzzzzz`
`21:57.23`	`Alric`	`Isn't that just an inherent fact in life? :)P`
`21:57.25`	`*** join/#asterisk shmaltz (n=chatzill@69.28.255.210)`
`21:57.27`	`ender`	`twisted[asteria]: you and I both.`
`21:57.27`	`Nugget`	`microsoft is to network what mysql is to databases.`
`21:57.39`	`twisted[asteria]`	`Nugget, that's not fair, you're giving microsoft some credit`
`21:57.40`	`X-Rob`	`NetBIOS wasn't a _bad_ idea.`
`21:57.40`	`pauldy`	`KrayZK, are you pushng fo ra ban`
`21:57.48`	`Nugget`	`absolutely not.`
`21:57.50`	`X-Rob`	`don't forget, it predates the widespread adoption of TCP/IP`
`21:57.57`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: no further suggestions?`
`21:58.02`	`shmaltz`	`X-Rom thats because it was not microsofts idea`
`21:58.05`	`Nugget`	`does asterisk support NetBEUI? :)`
`21:58.19`	`X-Rob`	`Katty - if you can do nmblookup jeff you should be able to smbclient -L //jeff`
`21:58.24`	`twisted[asteria]`	`Katty, nope... i don't deal with MS networks any further than I can throw them`
`21:58.27`	`X-Rob`	`if you can't, there's another problem.`
`21:58.30`	`twisted[asteria]`	`unless forced to`
`21:58.31`	`KrayZK`	`Sorry, but I've never been on IRC and the first time I get on... I get thrown out....`
`21:58.33`	`shmaltz`	`Nugget, even Microsoft doesn't support it anymore`
`21:58.37`	`docelm0`	`dude..... T1 Digium Cards ROCK!`
`21:58.46`	`*** part/#asterisk mkrufky (n=mk@68.160.103.77)`
`21:58.48`	`twisted[asteria]`	`and on that note, back to work`
`21:58.59`	`pauldy`	`well here is a hint if you treat people like advarsaries thats what they turn into`
`21:59.02`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: oh, this is fascinating`
`21:59.02`	`twisted[asteria]`	`oops`
`21:59.03`	`twisted[asteria]`	`forgot to disable that on this client`
`21:59.04`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: it works now`
`21:59.07`	`*** join/#asterisk r0d3nt (i=nobody@wsip-24-234-241-145.lv.lv.cox.net)`
`21:59.07`	`shmaltz`	`docelm0, sometimes it even rocks you out of bed`
`21:59.10`	`*** part/#asterisk Timoti (n=asqsa@81.214.25.45)`
`21:59.22`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: ah ha!`
`21:59.33`	`docelm0`	`Dude.. I make a call into my Cisco and out H323 to Australia`
`21:59.35`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: if i nmblookup $hostname and /then/ send the smbclient -M hostname, it works.`
`22:00.11`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: thanks for assistance (=`
`22:00.21`	`pauldy`	`(echo you there) \| smbclient -M jeff`
`22:00.21`	`docelm0`	`Now I just have to figure out Wink/CAS for my Channel bank tomorrow`
`22:00.29`	`flok420`	`I get the error " Unable to create channel of type 'ZAP'" when I have "exten => _0XXXXXXXXX,1,Dial(ZAP/${EXTEN})`
`22:00.33`	`flok420`	`what could it be?`
`22:00.53`	`docelm0`	`You forgot to ZAP/group/Phonenumber`
`22:00.58`	`docelm0`	`Your missing your group`
`22:00.59`	`KrayZK`	`I just wanna know if there are any issues with Redhat 9.0 and asterisk 1.0.7`
`22:01.07`	`flok420`	`ah ok`
`22:01.08`	`shmaltz`	`of course, flok420 it is impossible to have a channel that is so many digits long on zap`
`22:01.09`	`flok420`	`thanks`
`22:01.27`	`X-Rob`	`shmaltz - wtf?`
`22:01.37`	`shmaltz`	`X-Rob, what?`
`22:01.41`	`KrayZK`	`anyone, please....`
`22:01.51`	`X-Rob`	`what's wrong with that?`
`22:02.09`	`KrayZK`	`atleast tell me if I will be replied to.....`
`22:02.10`	`X-Rob`	`8 digits is the global (!us) standard.`
`22:02.18`	`shmaltz`	`X-Rob, netbios was not such a bad a idea, b/c it wasn't microsofts`
`22:02.26`	`KrayZK`	`so that i may leave if I am not wanted`
`22:02.27`	`X-Rob`	`KrayZK - I told you. Fuck off. Come back in a couple of days when people will have forgotten`
`22:02.29`	`*** join/#asterisk Escribzz (n=escribzz@71.36.229.227)`
`22:03.20`	`X-Rob`	`shmaltz - ah. I was saying wtf to _0XXXXXXXX being invalid`
`22:03.20`	`X-Rob`	`KrayZK - the other option is _USE GOOGLE_`
`22:03.21`	`shmaltz`	`X-Rob, but zap only offers 96 channels on the biggest card with 3 such cards you still only get 3 digit channles`
`22:03.24`	`X-Rob`	`Oh.`
`22:03.26`	`X-Rob`	`Don't mind me.`
`22:03.26`	`KrayZK`	`i did and it pointed to this channel...`
`22:03.27`	`shmaltz`	`yeah i realized so I answerd`
`22:03.29`	`X-Rob`	`I see what you're saying`
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`22:04.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`Ok, this is weird.`
`22:04.03`	`X-Rob`	`You're saying he's dialling the actual trunk. I thought you were saying 'after you fix the Zap/g0/' issue, the number is invalid'`
`22:04.14`	`iCEBrkr`	`Dial() isn't detecting busy over VoicePulse.`
`22:05.38`	`iCEBrkr`	`Parma Heights Proposal Would Ban Smoking In Car With Kids`
`22:05.40`	`iCEBrkr`	`oops`
`22:05.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`wrong channel`
`22:05.43`	`scoates`	`I need to be able to transfer to an INTERNAL extension after Dial()ing (with the t option). Can I set this context somehow?`
`22:05.57`	`pauldy`	`X-Rob, I ran across some of my research the other day for alternative fuels, you might want to look into the abiotic theory of oil creation and get the other side of the peak oil argument`
`22:06.30`	`KrayZK`	`alright then...since this room is filled with ppl with extreme ego issues....i shall depart`
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`22:06.59`	`pauldy`	`what a wanker`
`22:07.01`	`X-Rob`	`pauldy - yes, I've heard of that. But they say that 'this means that oil wells are re-filling!' and they're not.`
`22:07.25`	`X-Rob`	`I didn't look too much into it, as it seems to violate conservation of energy`
`22:08.10`	`*** join/#asterisk Rav1974 (n=r@ool-457a17a9.dyn.optonline.net)`
`22:08.14`	`pauldy`	`I know but it is one of the contrary points used against peek oil that we discussed last week`
`22:08.19`	`lesouvage`	`scoates: Are you dialing through zap channel?`
`22:08.24`	`pauldy`	`I just didn't remember the name of it`
`22:08.28`	`Rav1974`	`hello, I wanted to know if you can setup VoipJet in AMP without manually editing conf files`
`22:08.51`	`X-Rob`	`pauldy - yep. And I'm dismissing it as crap until the _hypothesis_ has some proof behind it.`
`22:08.52`	`X-Rob`	`But, I did say, I haven't looked into it.`
`22:09.01`	`X-Rob`	`so if I've missed something, feel free to clue me up.`
`22:09.43`	`iCEBrkr`	`<= Xtreem EG0`
`22:10.01`	`lesouvage`	`Rav1974: add a trunk. You have to fill in excactly what you ahve to add to the config files so there isn't much difference.`
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`22:10.09`	`pauldy`	`not much to it and I have the same issue with the theories you do I just haven't dismissed them yet`
`22:10.27`	`X-Rob`	`pauldy - it's not a theory. It's a hypothesis.`
`22:10.30`	`pauldy`	`I even wrote about it in my thesis paper`
`22:10.43`	`scoates`	`lesouvage: no. Iax on both sides.`
`22:10.45`	`X-Rob`	`theory == something that has lots of experemental proof behind it.`
`22:11.01`	`X-Rob`	`AFAIK, it's just a hypothesis.`
`22:11.18`	`Rav1974`	`lesouvage: it needs the following things to be changed`
`22:11.18`	`Rav1974`	`exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,1,SetCallerID(4153574000); Set your CallerID as a ten digit number like this. See our FAQ`
`22:11.18`	`Rav1974`	`exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,2,Dial,IAX2/xxxx@voipjet/${EXTEN} ; VoipJet.com NANPA`
`22:11.18`	`Rav1974`	`exten => _011.,1,SetCallerID(4153574000); Set your CallerID as a ten digit number like this. See our FAQ.`
`22:11.18`	`Rav1974`	`exten => _011.,2,Dial,IAX2/xxxx@voipjet/${EXTEN} ; VoipJet.com WORLD`
`22:11.19`	`Rav1974`	`;Do not change IAX2/xxxx in the above two lines!`
`22:11.31`	`Rav1974`	`and there is no way to do this in AMP`
`22:11.53`	`pauldy`	`they are saying they have tested it and it is commonly reffered to in texts as the abiotic theory`
`22:11.59`	`Rav1974`	`iCEBrkr: sorry`
`22:12.04`	`iCEBrkr`	`:)`
`22:12.16`	`pauldy`	`but it could very well all be BS conspiracy theory`
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`22:13.06`	`adval40`	`hello`
`22:14.04`	`adval40`	`i'm looking for good documentation for installing ISDN HFC card in NT mode`
`22:14.48`	`X-Rob`	`pauldy - what I'm thinking of is the hypothesis that oil can be (re)generated from magic pixie dust and geothermal energy by anaerobic bacteria`
`22:14.51`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: excellent. i've made asterisk send out a popup to windows clients with the callerid and recieved time variables.`
`22:14.53`	`X-Rob`	`But I'll go google that now.`
`22:15.31`	`ender`	`Katty: you had success w/ that?`
`22:15.45`	`Katty`	`ender: of course. why else would i be pestering twisted[asteria] about windows?`
`22:15.50`	`ender`	`Katty: I was just thinking about doing the same for our support guys who like to wear headphones and don't hear the phone.`
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`22:16.27`	`ender`	`Katty: what does the line look like in extensions.conf ?`
`22:16.39`	`Katty`	`ender: heh`
`22:16.42`	`Katty`	`ender: it's several`
`22:16.47`	`ender`	`pastebin?`
`22:16.49`	`Katty`	`ender: and by several i mean a whole shit load :)`
`22:16.52`	`ender`	`yikes`
`22:17.00`	`Katty`	`ender: voip-info.org will get you started.`
`22:17.03`	`joe`	`hahaha`
`22:17.06`	`Katty`	`ender: ;)`
`22:17.11`	`iCEBrkr`	`ender: I'm working on a callmager for those kinda people ( like me )`
`22:17.27`	`ender`	`Katty: oh nice! Thats like saying 'kernel.org' will get you started on setting up a Linux email server....`
`22:17.31`	`Katty`	`ender: sorry, i don't feel like handing out the answer right now. i don't have it 'fine tuned' the way i want it :)`
`22:17.40`	`Rav1974`	`anybody got an amp hint for me for problem pasted earlier? :)`
`22:17.45`	`*** join/#asterisk Primer (n=primus@sh.nu)`
`22:17.50`	`Katty`	`ender: i spent a whole day figuring this out.`
`22:17.52`	`ender`	`Katty: sure sure. Keep me in mind when you get it a bit more 'polished'.`
`22:17.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: I'm gonna remember that one the next time you need a question answered :P`
`22:17.56`	`Katty`	`ender: k`
`22:17.57`	`X-Rob`	`pauldy: If there are in fact vast untapped deep pools of hydrocarbons refilling the reservoirs that oil producers drill into, it appears to make little difference to actual production, as tens of thousands of oil and gas fields around the world are observed to deplete, and refilling (which is indeed very rarely observed) is not occurring at a commercially significant scale or rate except in one minor and controversial instance discussed`
`22:18.02`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: goodly`
`22:18.05`	`X-Rob`	`pauldy: http://www.museletter.com/archive/150b.html`
`22:18.11`	`Katty`	`ender: i'll get you the wiki page, moment`
`22:18.28`	`ender`	`k`
`22:18.46`	`Katty`	`ender: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+call+notification`
`22:19.08`	`Katty`	`ender: that doesn't include database queries though.`
`22:20.20`	`eKo1`	`anyone here experienced dtmf problems with xten?`
`22:20.23`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: the problem is most people don't speak kat.`
`22:20.28`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: they speak geek.`
`22:20.38`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: there are a few /rare/ exceptions here.`
`22:20.39`	`ender`	`Katty: thats fine. I'm oly going to to do it for this one group during special times.`
`22:20.49`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: hahah`
`22:20.57`	`flok420`	`ok, now I would like to restrict dial-out to a certain phone. so I add '[1000]' / 'context=dialout' 'defaultip=...' to sip.conf and to extensions.conf '[dialout]' and the "Dial(ZAP...)" command, now I constantly get a 404 error`
`22:21.01`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: twisted[asteria] being one of them (=`
`22:21.16`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: 5 different people will blah blah blah, and i've no clue what you're attempting to tell me`
`22:21.38`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: s/you're/they're/`
`22:22.14`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: so your comment really doesn't make much difference :P`
`22:22.25`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: odds are, i wouldn't listen anyway ;)`
`22:22.27`	`X-Rob`	`Katty - well learn.`
`22:22.28`	`X-Rob`	`duh.`
`22:22.30`	`iCEBrkr`	`Ehhh, whatever then.`
`22:22.34`	`Katty`	`X-Rob: amusing.`
`22:22.36`	`X-Rob`	`acting like a bimbo isn't going th help.`
`22:22.44`	`X-Rob`	`'not listening not listening la la la'`
`22:22.45`	`justinu`	`lol, why do you guys even bother?`
`22:22.46`	`iCEBrkr`	`X-Rob: It's not an act.`
`22:22.58`	`ender`	`hrm, this jabber might be better fo rme.`
`22:23.01`	`Katty`	`X-Rob: oh yes, i'm quite shallow :)`
`22:23.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`X-Rob: Tee hee hee! I'm blonde.`
`22:23.09`	`justinu`	`lol`
`22:23.11`	`Katty`	`X-Rob: and /very/ blonde`
`22:23.19`	`Katty`	`X-Rob: which is precisely why i'm running asterisk!`
`22:23.24`	`X-Rob`	`Katty - shallow and blonde has nothing to do with stupid.`
`22:23.29`	`justinu`	`hahah`
`22:23.30`	`iCEBrkr`	`haha`
`22:23.33`	`Katty`	`X-Rob: then i'm stupid too ;)`
`22:23.36`	`Katty`	`X-Rob: m'kay?`
`22:23.47`	`X-Rob`	`And if you don't know how DNS works, you shuodn't be working on any network related resource.`
`22:23.51`	`X-Rob`	`as I said`
`22:23.53`	`X-Rob`	`Then learn.`
`22:24.06`	`X-Rob`	`<X-Rob> Katty - well learn.`
`22:24.11`	`X-Rob`	`to be precise.`
`22:24.12`	`justinu`	`lol`
`22:24.19`	`iCEBrkr`	`I really should go home`
`22:24.38`	`ender`	`hrm, needs AGI.`
`22:24.45`	`Katty`	`X-Rob: k`
`22:24.47`	`ender`	`I was hoping to do this rather simply.`
`22:24.59`	`Katty`	`ender: good luck with simple`
`22:25.29`	`ender`	`Katty: you have no idea how simple minded I can be....`
`22:25.34`	`ender`	`wait, that came out wrong...`
`22:26.23`	`justinu`	`where's bean?`
`22:26.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`if I dial() a busy line, it should jump to n+101 or does it only do that when there's no channels available?`
`22:26.26`	`justinu`	`pipo?`
`22:26.36`	`ender`	`justinu: long dead by now`
`22:26.40`	`X-Rob`	`iCEBrkr - check DIALSTATUS.`
`22:26.49`	`justinu`	`that's a real shame`
`22:26.54`	`iCEBrkr`	`X-Rob: Blank. but then again, I'm dialing from a macro.`
`22:26.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`hrrm.`
`22:27.14`	`iCEBrkr`	`Dial() ends up failing.`
`22:27.18`	`X-Rob`	`try HEAD rather than 1.2`
`22:27.20`	`docelm0`	`Anyone know anything about echo on the GXP2000 and asterisk? or could this be on the PRI?`
`22:27.23`	`X-Rob`	`1.2 is getting significantly dated.`
`22:27.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`it jumps to the failed exetension`
`22:27.32`	`X-Rob`	`docelm0 - I am the GXP2000 guru.`
`22:27.38`	`X-Rob`	`what's your problem, quick.`
`22:27.53`	`flok420`	`how can I limit dialout capabilities to only certain users?`
`22:28.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`F this, tomorrow is another day, I'm going home.`
`22:28.38`	`justinu`	`later`
`22:28.43`	`iCEBrkr`	`...and CVS downloading HEAD`
`22:28.46`	`iCEBrkr`	`Sigh`
`22:28.48`	`iCEBrkr`	`Work is never done.`
`22:30.39`	`Katty`	`X-Rob: also, i'm curious as to why you feel the need to argue with me :)`
`22:32.19`	`Katty`	`X-Rob: actually, it doesn't really matter.`
`22:32.28`	`Katty`	`X-Rob: have a great evening (=`
`22:32.31`	`X-Rob`	`Katty - that's the way`
`22:32.38`	`X-Rob`	`don't care about other people's opinion of you.`
`22:33.09`	`Primer`	`If anyone wants to read about a very weird NAT issue, please read this: http://sh.nu/p/616`
`22:33.15`	`X-Rob`	`I was actually trying to think of the nice way to say 'chicks deliberately acting stupid fucking PISSES ME OFF'`
`22:33.16`	`Primer`	`if you're bored...`
`22:33.21`	`X-Rob`	`but, there you go.`
`22:36.49`	`justinu`	`x-rob, you're dead on, but there's no point in letting it get to you`
`22:37.00`	`justinu`	`just ignore it and move on :)`
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`22:44.12`	`lesouvage`	`I tried callprogress=yes in my zapata.conf to have the timer working when dialing a cellphone so asterisk can skip to the next priority. Are there other option to solve this problem?`
`22:45.17`	`paravoid`	`hrm, any price estimate on TDM2400P? :)`
`22:45.43`	`Escribzz`	`Anyone passing over registers to asterisk through ser with natted clients?`
`22:46.12`	`Escribzz`	`I've got the one way audio stuff and everything worked out I just can't call the phones back :(`
`22:46.36`	`lesouvage`	`exten => 3,1,Dial(Zap/1/0612345678,10,m) is simply not working as it supposed to work (ring 10 seconds and then go the next priority)`
`22:48.27`	`Alric`	`gdit`
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`22:52.42`	`rene-`	`hi, does anyone know if price or availability information about digiums new hi density analog cards is out?`
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`22:52.59`	`modulus_`	`hi`
`22:53.06`	`modulus_`	`does anyone know why rtp doesn't work?`
`22:53.17`	`justinu`	`lol`
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`22:53.46`	`*** join/#asterisk Linx (n=linx@debian.geek.nz)`
`22:53.49`	`lesouvage`	`modules: maybe firewall settings`
`22:54.09`	`modulus_`	`lesouvage, so you think rtp works?`
`22:54.28`	`Linx`	`is it posible to have an extension defined in voicemail that actually gets forwarded to another extension's voicemail?`
`22:54.48`	`Linx`	`ie 6000 actually goes to 5000's vm box`
`22:55.05`	`modulus_`	`try a symlink`
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`22:55.16`	`Linx`	`oh at the filesystem level?`
`22:55.21`	`justinu`	`you sound like jerjer`
`22:55.21`	`modulus_`	`sure why not`
`22:55.30`	`modulus_`	`who does?`
`22:55.32`	`justinu`	`you`
`22:55.35`	`Linx`	`ummm`
`22:55.37`	`Linx`	`right`
`22:55.40`	`Linx`	`will try`
`22:55.41`	`justinu`	`lol`
`22:55.47`	`modulus_`	`i sound like a fag?`
`22:55.49`	`modulus_`	`wtf?`
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`22:56.21`	`justinu`	`you feel compelled to tell us this?`
`22:56.24`	`ender`	`Katty: I think we're going to go w/ YAC clients and I'm going to do a simple python app that does a dictionary lookup on extension to user's hostname and send a netcat message to YAC. SHould be nifty.`
`22:56.29`	`rene-`	`nevr mind its supposed to be available december 2005, wonder what will cost`
`22:57.02`	`modulus_`	`damnit justinu i thought we were breakin' his balls`
`22:57.04`	`modulus_`	`(if he has any)`
`22:57.32`	`justinu`	`he's ok, just a little angry`
`22:57.33`	`jarrod`	`cripitooooo`
`22:58.35`	`Linx`	`hmmm it respondes with the linked extension msg`
`22:58.41`	`Linx`	`rather than its down`
`22:58.59`	`modulus_`	`yeah so who here who has a clue knows why rtp doesn't work?`
`22:59.14`	`modulus_`	`/ignore lesouvage`
`22:59.20`	`justinu`	`haha`
`22:59.40`	`morale`	`can someone show me their dialplan? i having trouble trying to get everything all working and having no rules overlapping`
`22:59.41`	`Linx`	`so... it gets the msgs out of the actual box`
`22:59.42`	`lesouvage`	`modulus: whhat's your problem?`
`22:59.47`	`Linx`	`rather than the voicemail config`
`23:00.06`	`justinu`	`it doesn't work because of NAT, dumbass`
`23:00.07`	`Linx`	`so doing the filesystem link will result in the same as doing it at extensions.conf`
`23:00.16`	`justinu`	`because the internet is broken`
`23:00.37`	`modulus_`	`Linx, what are you babbling on about now?`
`23:00.49`	`iCEBrkr`	`Ahhhh, home.`
`23:00.57`	`justinu`	`re`
`23:01.13`	`chidex`	`asterisk@home 1.2.0 beta4 writes to the respective voicemail directory and when the call is hung-up the .wav file disappears. Anybody got any ideas?`
`23:01.24`	`Linx`	`modulus_: doing a symlink in /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/6000 to 5000`
`23:01.36`	`Linx`	`it plays the msgs for 5000 rather than 6000`
`23:01.38`	`modulus_`	`Linx, i'm amazed and in awe that you got that far.`
`23:01.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`hahah wow`
`23:01.58`	`Linx`	`got how far?`
`23:01.58`	`iCEBrkr`	`That's harsh`
`23:02.06`	`justinu`	`that is harsh`
`23:03.19`	`Linx`	`when someone rings 6000, I want them to get a msg saying something for 6000, but the msgs to go to 5000's vm box`
`23:03.28`	`Linx`	`doing a sylink at the filesystem level doesn't work`
`23:03.47`	`modulus_`	`Linx, who ties your shoes for you?`
`23:03.55`	`iCEBrkr`	`Linx: You probably got the mailbox= thing set wrong`
`23:04.12`	`modulus_`	`iCEBrkr, to the rescue!`
`23:04.15`	`modulus_`	`dun Dun DUN!`
`23:04.19`	`iCEBrkr`	`haha`
`23:04.40`	`Linx`	`iCEBrkr: if I set the mailbox to 5000 then it will reply with 5000 voicemail msg`
`23:04.48`	`iCEBrkr`	`Linx: duh.`
`23:05.03`	`Linx`	`yea which is not what I wnat it to do`
`23:05.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`I mean, I hope so`
`23:05.14`	`Linx`	`setting it to 6000 means it will put it in the 600 mail box`
`23:05.19`	`Linx`	`not 5000`
`23:05.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`um, WTF are you trying to do?!`
`23:05.38`	`Linx`	`when someone rings 6000, I want them to get a msg saying`
`23:05.39`	`Linx`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`23:05.44`	`justinu`	`lol`
`23:05.56`	`justinu`	`iCEBrkr: you're into punishment, aren't you?`
`23:06.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`apparently you have 6000's mailbox set wrong`
`23:06.05`	`modulus_`	`Linx, in the man pages of ls, it shows you that you can drum roll link FILES and not just DIRECTORIES!`
`23:06.10`	`Linx`	`forward all msgs for 6000 to 5000`
`23:06.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: Just trying hard not to make this place like #linux`
`23:06.17`	`iCEBrkr`	`:P`
`23:06.34`	`justinu`	`iCEBrkr: lol, we'll honestely.... i appreciate it`
`23:06.41`	`justinu`	`s/we'll/well`
`23:06.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`haha`
`23:06.53`	`modulus_`	`justinu, iCEBrkr is one of those neat individuals who can jump into the middle of conversations and read everyone's minds`
`23:07.00`	`justinu`	`i like that tho`
`23:07.03`	`modulus_`	`justinu, he knows what the mighty Linx is up to`
`23:07.08`	`justinu`	`better than most fucktards out there`
`23:07.12`	`iCEBrkr`	`modulus_: I do?`
`23:07.24`	`modulus_`	`iCEBrkr, you in fact have no clue what Linx is trying to do`
`23:07.25`	`*** join/#asterisk doughecka (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/doughecka)`
`23:07.37`	`iCEBrkr`	`modulus_: Exactly.. But I'm pretending pretty good.`
`23:07.46`	`iCEBrkr`	`bbodine: http://www.voip-info.org :D`
`23:07.50`	`modulus_`	`you definitely fooled Linx`
`23:07.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`modulus_: ^5`
`23:08.05`	`Linx`	`oh right`
`23:08.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`modulus_: I think he just realized what he's trying to do.`
`23:08.18`	`bbodine`	`thanks, but I've been reading all day. I'm looking for something a little more one on one`
`23:08.40`	`iCEBrkr`	`bbodine: That's about the best it gets, bro.. I learned most of what I know from there.. That and LOTS of trial and error`
`23:08.51`	`iCEBrkr`	`bbodine: But what's up.. Ask away`
`23:09.09`	`justinu`	`read the source code`
`23:09.11`	`justinu`	`it's the way`
`23:09.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: haha`
`23:09.19`	`justinu`	`at least it's definitive`
`23:09.21`	`modulus_`	`justinu, these people can't even read a man page`
`23:09.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: //** This doesn't fucking work, and it will never work.`
`23:09.35`	`iCEBrkr`	`Yea, nice comments.`
`23:09.41`	`justinu`	`i bet katty can read a man page`
`23:09.53`	`justinu`	`iCEBrkr: there's one comment in there from mark spencer`
`23:10.01`	`justinu`	`iCEBrkr: whoever wrote this can suck my balls!`
`23:10.04`	`iCEBrkr`	`hahaha`
`23:10.06`	`bbodine`	`iCEBrkr I have an * server up and running with 2 xten xlite phone running. I can dial from the CLI to the phones and I can dial phone to phone via ip. but the phones aren't registering correctly, ( I think)`
`23:10.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`bbodine: start looking into sip.conf`
`23:10.41`	`bbodine`	`iCEBrkr been there all day....`
`23:10.52`	`bbodine`	`and in extensions.conf too`
`23:10.54`	`justinu`	`why aren't they registering correctly?`
`23:11.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`bbodine: CLI> sip show users`
`23:11.30`	`iCEBrkr`	`bbodine: oh and CLI> set verbose 4`
`23:11.31`	`bbodine`	`don't know yet when I do "sip show peers" all looks ok but their status is "unmonitored"`
`23:11.36`	`bbodine`	`lol`
`23:11.39`	`bbodine`	`have v=5`
`23:11.44`	`justinu`	`did you set qualify= in sip.conf?`
`23:11.56`	`TedC`	`Anybody know why my Meetme rooms work fine if I call them directly after Answer, but have codec errors if I try (unsuccessfully) to send a call to a SIP channel with Dial first?`
`23:11.57`	`bbodine`	`when I set qualify they become`
`23:11.59`	`iCEBrkr`	`Ya know, I had issues trying to get xlite to register.`
`23:12.00`	`bbodine`	`unreachable`
`23:12.05`	`justinu`	`ok`
`23:12.12`	`justinu`	`is asterisk behind NAT?`
`23:12.12`	`iCEBrkr`	`but I got jsphone or whatever it's call working in a snap`
`23:12.18`	`justinu`	`private ip addresses?`
`23:12.19`	`bbodine`	`tried guality=1000 and quality=yes`
`23:12.21`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: I think he's working all locally`
`23:12.25`	`bbodine`	`private ip on my lan`
`23:12.32`	`justinu`	`then you'll need to tell xlite not to use STUN`
`23:12.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`xlite is gay`
`23:12.42`	`bbodine`	`lemme check`
`23:12.44`	`justinu`	`it fucks xlite up, and xlite tellss your * box that it's IP is external`
`23:12.59`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: Is STUN set by default for xlite?`
`23:13.12`	`iCEBrkr`	`Which is probably why my xlite never worked.`
`23:13.15`	`justinu`	`yeah`
`23:13.17`	`iCEBrkr`	`dumb`
`23:13.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`well, I guess it's not that dumb, since most people are NATd`
`23:13.47`	`bbodine`	`justinu where do I turn stun off?`
`23:13.48`	`iCEBrkr`	`Regardless, if you're messing with it, you could figure it out. Blah`
`23:14.02`	`bbodine`	`I'm looking at the stun settings in xlite`
`23:14.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`bbodine: Somewhere in that hokey ass xlite config`
`23:14.10`	`justinu`	`you just have to remove the stun servers entirely`
`23:14.12`	`justinu`	`so it can't find them`
`23:14.17`	`justinu`	`then it gives up`
`23:14.20`	`justinu`	`stupid piece of crap`
`23:14.41`	`iCEBrkr`	`I should make a skin for it`
`23:14.43`	`TedC`	`wow, that is dumb. Good to know. I never got xlite to work either. :)`
`23:14.57`	`iCEBrkr`	`TedC: I got it working once.. Like last year when I didn't have a SIP phone`
`23:15.10`	`justinu`	`i figured all this out by reading waaaaaaaaay too many sip traces`
`23:15.10`	`bbodine`	`I have messages everytime=250 max stun message retries = 10 local ip server= (blank) and backup discover ip = (blank)`
`23:15.12`	`TedC`	`Heh. Necessity is the mother of invention, I guess.`
`23:15.22`	`iCEBrkr`	`I installed it at work cuz I needed another phone. I gave up and use JSPhone or whatever it's called.`
`23:15.47`	`justinu`	`bbodine: you're gonna make me fire up that piece of crap to help you?`
`23:15.58`	`bbodine`	`only if you feel up to it`
`23:16.00`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: hahah, I've been resisting installing it here. :P`
`23:16.03`	`justinu`	`lol`
`23:16.14`	`justinu`	`allllllright`
`23:16.17`	`bbodine`	`I'd call you for help, but I can't!!!! lol`
`23:16.22`	`iCEBrkr`	`bbodine: Look at that, you twisted his rubber arm`
`23:16.34`	`justinu`	`i just make it work for other bucketmouths`
`23:16.37`	`*** join/#asterisk bjohnson (n=bjohnson@i216-58-61-165.cybersurf.com)`
`23:16.47`	`bbodine`	`wow, doesn't voice talk in a * support group?`
`23:17.12`	`justinu`	`bbodine: menu/system settings/network/primary stun server`
`23:17.16`	`justinu`	`make it blank`
`23:17.21`	`justinu`	`and the same for secondary stun server`
`23:17.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`Hey, can you set the qualify time? this server I have is re-registering every 10secs it seems`
`23:17.34`	`justinu`	`quit the app, and restart it`
`23:17.47`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: gees, you have to restart the app?!?!`
`23:17.49`	`iCEBrkr`	`PoS`
`23:17.49`	`justinu`	`qualify != registering`
`23:17.59`	`bbodine`	`they are both blank now`
`23:18.10`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: dude, it sends the "Hello, I'm here" bullshit`
`23:18.19`	`justinu`	`is it sending the sip register?`
`23:18.19`	`iCEBrkr`	`Ok, so it doesn't reregister`
`23:18.22`	`justinu`	`or a sip notify`
`23:18.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`lemme wait for the message again`
`23:18.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`it's annoying`
`23:18.41`	`iCEBrkr`	`-- Registered 'srg' (AUTHENTICATED) at`
`23:18.43`	`bbodine`	`quit and started the app again`
`23:18.43`	`justinu`	`qualify=1000; means every second`
`23:18.44`	`iCEBrkr`	`oh, see.`
`23:18.58`	`justinu`	`it's like pinging the phone to see if it's alive`
`23:19.09`	`justinu`	`registering is when the phone tells * where it is`
`23:19.12`	`iCEBrkr`	`yea.. "hello, I'm here"`
`23:19.22`	`justinu`	`just turn it off`
`23:19.26`	`justinu`	`if it's a LAN, you don't need it`
`23:19.30`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: I could, but it's NATd`
`23:19.39`	`bbodine`	`in sip.conf, set quailfy=1000 ?`
`23:19.44`	`justinu`	`well, then your phones should use nat keep-alive`
`23:19.44`	`xheliox`	`anyone happen to know if there's a script that would query Google for a caller ID name?`
`23:19.49`	`modulus_`	`this is great`
`23:19.50`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: ahhhhhhh`
`23:19.53`	`modulus_`	`3 people talking at each other`
`23:20.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`modulus_: Now it's 4.. tag your it`
`23:20.09`	`modulus_`	`i don't own an "it"`
`23:20.10`	`justinu`	`bbodine: no, that wasn't for you`
`23:20.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`xheliox: Theres one out there on the wiki somewhere.`
`23:20.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`xheliox: but it's not google, it uses infospace or something`
`23:20.30`	`xheliox`	`iCEBrkr: Thanks, haven't been able to find it, but I'll keep looking.`
`23:20.34`	`justinu`	`bbodine: so where are we now?`
`23:20.36`	`justinu`	`did they register?`
`23:20.44`	`xheliox`	`iCEBrkr: Ah, whatever works. :)`
`23:20.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`modulus_: s/your/you're`
`23:21.04`	`iCEBrkr`	`better?`
`23:21.06`	`modulus_`	`friggin' doxygen takes too long to copmile`
`23:21.12`	`bbodine`	`justinu what's the BEST way to check registratoin?`
`23:21.12`	`modulus_`	`s/pm/mp/`
`23:21.17`	`bbodine`	`been using sip show peers`
`23:21.20`	`iCEBrkr`	`bbodine: sip show peers`
`23:21.23`	`bbodine`	`ok`
`23:21.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`wait.`
`23:21.28`	`justinu`	`yes`
`23:21.32`	`modulus_`	`bbodine, ctrl+f4 works faster`
`23:21.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`yeah, that works`
`23:21.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`modulus_: haha`
`23:21.39`	`justinu`	`lol`
`23:21.49`	`justinu`	`got one`
`23:21.57`	`bbodine`	`I get Phone2/phone2 ip-address mask port and "Unmonitored"`
`23:21.58`	`iCEBrkr`	`modulus_: that just takes me to desktop 4`
`23:22.08`	`justinu`	`what's the IP?`
`23:22.21`	`bbodine`	`192.168.1.3 and 192.168.1.52`
`23:22.24`	`iCEBrkr`	`bbodine: looks good then`
`23:22.25`	`justinu`	`so is that right?`
`23:22.27`	`bbodine`	`ctrl+f4 ??`
`23:22.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`bbodine: don't listen to him`
`23:22.38`	`bbodine`	`is that like alt+f4??`
`23:22.58`	`bbodine`	`those are the correct ip addresses.`
`23:23.08`	`justinu`	`so what's the problem?`
`23:23.13`	`justinu`	`sounds like they registered`
`23:23.38`	`bbodine`	`shouldn't their status be something other than "unmonitored"?`
`23:23.52`	`justinu`	`you need to set qualify=1000 if you want that to work`
`23:23.57`	`modulus_`	`no you don't want monitoring, it'll take more cpu`
`23:24.02`	`justinu`	`stfu`
`23:24.08`	`iCEBrkr`	`modulus_: OMG! 2 phones!`
`23:24.11`	`iCEBrkr`	`CPU!!!!!`
`23:24.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`OH NOZ`
`23:24.21`	`justinu`	`he's uses a commodore 64`
`23:24.22`	`bbodine`	`ok, now I don't have a qualify statement in my sip.conf, do I need it?`
`23:24.26`	`justinu`	`give him a break`
`23:24.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`justinu: Oh, that explains it`
`23:24.31`	`justinu`	`bbodine:yes`
`23:24.38`	`bbodine`	`qualify=???`
`23:24.47`	`justinu`	`[16:23] justinu: you need to set qualify=1000 if you want that to work`
`23:24.51`	`bbodine`	`ok`
`23:24.56`	`justinu`	`cmon dude, follow along`
`23:24.57`	`justinu`	`:P`
`23:25.01`	`justinu`	`pay attention!`
`23:25.23`	`modulus_`	`justinu, you are nothing but a pignutted quart of rump-fed rat retch.`
`23:25.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`OhhhhhhhhhBURRRRRRRRRRRN!`
`23:25.43`	`justinu`	`lol`
`23:25.46`	`bbodine`	`everytime I add qualify=anything, then my sip show peers tells me their status is "unreachable"`
`23:25.51`	`Linx`	`that worked`
`23:25.53`	`justinu`	`same now?`
`23:26.09`	`Linx`	`sorry was symlinking the whole voicemail directory, not the INBOX`
`23:26.15`	`justinu`	`turn on the diagnostic log in xlite`
`23:26.21`	`bbodine`	`k`
`23:26.24`	`justinu`	`cut and paste the whole thing to pastebin`
`23:26.25`	`modulus_`	`six HOURS later: Linx] that worked`
`23:26.31`	`justinu`	`lol`
`23:26.46`	`Linx`	`6 hours... I was doing work also... not playing with asterisk the whole time`
`23:26.54`	`bbodine`	`lol and that url again was???`
`23:26.55`	`justinu`	`fuck work`
`23:26.58`	`justinu`	`asterisk is work`
`23:27.04`	`justinu`	`pastebin.ca`
`23:27.17`	`Linx`	`haha not for me its not.. at least not yet`
`23:27.31`	`bbodine`	`brb`
`23:27.32`	`Linx`	`have been trying to get the boss to let me get something setup`
`23:27.34`	`Linx`	`but yea`
`23:28.19`	`justinu`	`brc is another angry one`
`23:29.06`	`*** join/#asterisk n0rf- (n=n0rf@ip152.66.1311D-CUD12K-03.ish.de)`
`23:29.35`	`bbodine`	`done, it's at http://pastebin.ca/26874`
`23:30.11`	`modulus_`	`cool! there's your SIP PASSWORD AND IP ADDRESS!`
`23:30.31`	`justinu`	`so your * box is 192.168.1.10?`
`23:30.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`hack hack`
`23:30.43`	`bbodine`	`well if I can't trust this bunch of misfits, who can I trust?`
`23:31.02`	`iCEBrkr`	`ha`
`23:31.17`	`modulus_`	`bbodine, that's perhaps the most intelligible thing you've ever said`
`23:31.29`	`bbodine`	`lol`
`23:31.37`	`*** join/#asterisk Sp3ciaL_K (n=alex@d141-139-99.home.cgocable.net)`
`23:31.42`	`justinu`	`it looks like the xlite side it working fine`
`23:31.57`	`justinu`	`did you set nat=no in sip.conf?`
`23:32.12`	`bbodine`	`lemme dbl check`
`23:32.33`	`Sp3ciaL_K`	`anyone here uses rxfax ?`
`23:32.37`	`*** join/#asterisk iq (n=iq@63-227-150-227.omah.qwest.net)`
`23:32.54`	`bbodine`	`nat=no is in sip.conf`
`23:33.00`	`Linx`	`anyone know of any wireless single port ATA?`
`23:33.23`	`iCEBrkr`	`Linx: Do you know what Google is?`
`23:33.32`	`Linx`	`yea and it finds nothing`
`23:33.36`	`justinu`	`how about this one: localnet=192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0; All RFC 1918 addresses are local networks`
`23:33.38`	`Linx`	`just seeing if anyone has seen any`
`23:33.53`	`bbodine`	`btw, I can dial the phones from the CLI and I can dial phone to phone via IP but when I dial from CLI, and pickup up the xlite, the CLI keeps ringing like the phone is still on hook`
`23:33.54`	`justinu`	`lol`
`23:34.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`ha`
`23:34.10`	`modulus_`	`iCEBrkr, you're a novice. this is how you do it.`
`23:34.13`	`justinu`	`bbodine: yeah, it's broken`
`23:34.15`	`modulus_`	`Linx, how do you not fall down more?`
`23:34.20`	`justinu`	`asterisk isn't getting the 200 OK`
`23:34.43`	`bbodine`	`"it's broken" refers to just which part of all this?`
`23:34.47`	`Linx`	`modulus_: stay on the floor the first time you fall`
`23:35.11`	`justinu`	`bbodine: did you check localnet=?`
`23:35.21`	`justinu`	`next, you're gonna have to turn on sip debug and paste all that shit`
`23:35.25`	`justinu`	`if you really want this working`
`23:35.37`	`bbodine`	`sorry, what's localnet?`
`23:35.43`	`bbodine`	`that's new to my setup`
`23:35.45`	`justinu`	`it's a line that should be in sip.conf`
`23:35.53`	`justinu`	`add it under [general]`
`23:35.56`	`bbodine`	`not there at the moment`
`23:36.11`	`*** part/#asterisk Sp3ciaL_K (n=alex@d141-139-99.home.cgocable.net)`
`23:36.12`	`*** part/#asterisk nobell (n=jdegraff@70.103.228.158)`
`23:36.28`	`*** join/#asterisk Sp3ciaL_K (n=alex@d141-139-99.home.cgocable.net)`
`23:36.59`	`bbodine`	`ok so under [general] put localnet=192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 right?`
`23:37.09`	`justinu`	`yep`
`23:37.50`	`bbodine`	`ok, did that and reloaded from CLI`
`23:37.59`	`bbodine`	`lemms know when this gets old`
`23:38.13`	`justinu`	`so what now?`
`23:38.22`	`justinu`	`they still won't become reachable?`
`23:38.33`	`bbodine`	`still shows "status" "Unreachable"`
`23:38.44`	`justinu`	`turn on sip debug`
`23:38.51`	`justinu`	`and paste some of the OPTIONS roundtrips`
`23:39.00`	`justinu`	`can't see why it wouldn't work`
`23:39.03`	`*** join/#asterisk Sp3ciaL_K (n=alex@d141-139-99.home.cgocable.net)`
`23:39.14`	`bbodine`	`sip debug is on`
`23:39.25`	`bbodine`	`IPTOINS roundtrips?`
`23:39.30`	`bbodine`	`OPTIONS even`
`23:39.37`	`justinu`	`you should see it sending option messages to the phones`
`23:39.48`	`justinu`	`paste me that dialog`
`23:39.55`	`modulus_`	`justinu, you could have this conversation for the next 2 weeks`
`23:39.58`	`bbodine`	`back to the diagnostics log?`
`23:39.59`	`justinu`	`i know`
`23:40.14`	`justinu`	`bbodine: paste me the output from asterisk`
`23:40.17`	`justinu`	`not from xlite this time`
`23:40.37`	`bbodine`	`HELP, how shall I copy and paste the text from the console? putty?`
`23:40.42`	`justinu`	`yep`
`23:40.43`	`modulus_`	`oh no!`
`23:40.45`	`modulus_`	`alert the feds!`
`23:40.47`	`bbodine`	`ok brb`
`23:40.49`	`iCEBrkr`	`lol`
`23:42.34`	`Linx`	`when someone rings 6000, I want them to get a msg saying`
`23:42.40`	`Linx`	`oops`
`23:42.54`	`Linx`	`damn mouse`
`23:42.59`	`Sp3ciaL_K`	`damn training error`
`23:43.12`	`bbodine`	`ok, it's at http://pastebin.ca/26875`
`23:43.45`	`justinu`	`are you running some kind of firewall app on that box? your asterisk box isn't getting the phone replies`
`23:44.05`	`bbodine`	`not that I know of`
`23:44.19`	`bbodine`	`I'm using another linux box as a firewall, but not this one.`
`23:44.34`	`justinu`	`other than that, i dunno what the problem is, because it all looks fine, except * isn't seeing the options replies`
`23:45.34`	`bbodine`	`I'm using RH 7.2 (I know, it's old) and the only thing I can think of is that squid IS loaded, but not enabled on this box`
`23:45.54`	`*** join/#asterisk jskcr (n=jskcr@unaffiliated/jskcr)`
`23:45.59`	`justinu`	`i dunno, seems like somehow those packets aren't getting to you`
`23:46.06`	`bbodine`	`hmmmmmmmmmm....`
`23:46.07`	`justinu`	`you could try running tcpdump`
`23:46.11`	`bbodine`	`lol`
`23:46.14`	`bbodine`	`have done that`
`23:46.17`	`bbodine`	`will try again`
`23:46.21`	`justinu`	`can you see the replies in tcpdump?`
`23:47.15`	`bbodine`	`lemme see if I can tcpdump to a text file.`
`23:47.16`	`jskcr`	`greetings from huricane hell`
`23:48.59`	`Nivex`	`jskcr: Cancun or S. FL?`
`23:49.01`	`*** join/#asterisk kshumard_home (n=ksh@pcp01931374pcs.huntsv01.al.comcast.net)`
`23:49.38`	`jskcr`	`S florida`
`23:49.43`	`bbodine`	`got it at http://pastebin.ca/26876`
`23:49.49`	`jskcr`	`broward county or whats left of it`
`23:50.37`	`justinu`	`ipx? yikes`
`23:50.40`	`justinu`	`people still use that?`
`23:50.59`	`jskcr`	`I had to cut my self out of my block with a chainsaw for 4 hours and today was my first hot bath in 4 days`
`23:51.12`	`arp2`	`still using an ipx?`
`23:51.13`	`arp2`	`scary`
`23:51.20`	`justinu`	`no, the protocol`
`23:51.21`	`jskcr`	`ipx ewww.`
`23:51.25`	`arp2`	`oh`
`23:51.28`	`arp2`	`I thought you meant a sparc`
`23:51.31`	`jskcr`	`why not just use token ring`
`23:51.32`	`justinu`	`bbodine: your tcpdump sees the replies`
`23:51.33`	`arp2`	`using the protocol is scarier :)`
`23:51.47`	`justinu`	`bbodine: so i have no idea why asterisk doesn't`
`23:51.57`	`TommyTheKid`	`whats the app that makes "the lady" read an extension to the user? (read doesnt seem to be what I want) .. whats another word for that to search for maybe ;)`
`23:52.08`	`justinu`	`btw, next time, just look at tcpdump for one of the phones`
`23:52.12`	`justinu`	`tcpdump host 192.168.1.3`
`23:52.16`	`bbodine`	`ok`
`23:52.20`	`justinu`	`so we don't have to see your ipx garbage :)`
`23:52.26`	`jskcr`	`I installed about 1000 novel 4.11 servers`
`23:52.36`	`jskcr`	`long long long time ago`
`23:53.21`	`justinu`	`bbodine: anyways, you've stumped me...`
`23:54.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`TommyTheKid: SayDigits()?`
`23:55.01`	`TommyTheKid`	`say not read.. got it :)`
`23:55.21`	`bbodine`	`it's at http://pastebin.ca/26877`
`23:55.36`	`iCEBrkr`	`TommyTheKid: I bookmarked the wiki page that lists ALL the Asterisk dialplan commands.`
`23:55.44`	`iCEBrkr`	`then I just ^F on the page`
`23:56.44`	`bbodine`	`before I get rushed by the wife, I want to say THANKS to all those here who have provided imput. Do I have this right, is this the correct channel to come for this kind of help?`
`23:57.00`	`iCEBrkr`	`bbodine: Nope :P`
`23:57.04`	`bbodine`	`lol`
`23:57.10`	`TommyTheKid`	`thanks.. will do that.. I was trying to search for read`
`23:57.10`	`ender`	`I'm having some trouble w/ System() and quoting. Could anybody assist?`
`23:57.11`	`justinu`	`lol`
`23:57.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`We're just a bunch of nerds.`
`23:57.25`	`justinu`	`bbodine: good luck man`
`23:57.29`	`bbodine`	`ENDER!!!!`
`23:57.34`	`bbodine`	`another Card fan!!!!`
`23:58.05`	`justinu`	`speaker for the dead was a good read`
`23:58.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`It's pretty bad when you drink a Redbull and you're still ready for bed.`
`23:58.08`	`bbodine`	`justinu, nothing from that last tcpdump?`
`23:58.25`	`justinu`	`bbodine: it looks fine... your packet capture off the * box is showing the phone replies`
`23:58.28`	`bbodine`	`many of his books were good reads`
`23:58.37`	`justinu`	`bbodine: but your asterisk software isn't getting them`
`23:59.05`	`bbodine`	`is there an easy way to tell what version I'm running?`
`23:59.10`	`ender`	`heh, ok.`
`23:59.12`	`bbodine`	`version at the CLI?`
`23:59.27`	`justinu`	`i don't think it's a version problem`
`23:59.30`	`bbodine`	`ok`
`23:59.47`	`justinu`	`but show version works`
`23:59.56`	`justinu`	`sometimes`

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