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| 00:05.20 | X-Files | Please HeLp!!! http://pastebin.ca/29398 |
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| 00:05.28 | X-Files | not work *8 ;( |
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| 00:22.29 | Druken | anyone have access to call uk numbers? |
| 00:24.02 | AgiNamu | i do |
| 00:24.08 | dalbjerg | have anyone with a phone not that ? |
| 00:24.37 | AgiNamu | some, well, phones of people dial not access uk |
| 00:24.43 | Druken | AgiNamu: feel like callin a number to test for me? |
| 00:24.47 | AgiNamu | sure |
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| 00:25.22 | frenzy | when I start asterisk I get Nov 19 19:24:36 WARNING[26046]: chan_iax2.c:7472 load_module: Unable to open IAX timing interface: No such file or directory |
| 00:25.34 | file | it's a warning not an error. |
| 00:25.57 | frenzy | what is a effect ? |
| 00:26.13 | file | it just means you can't do IAX2 trunking |
| 00:26.31 | frenzy | how do I enable it.. |
| 00:26.37 | frenzy | I have IAX2 enabled |
| 00:26.44 | file | you need a zaptel timing device |
| 00:26.53 | file | IAX2 trunking is not something that you have to have, unless you intend to use it |
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| 00:30.44 | nocnoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.05 | nocnoc | if i uncomment app_dial, it loads ok, but i need the dial app for my AGI |
| 00:31.16 | nocnoc | what could be going wrong? im using 1.0.9 |
| 00:31.39 | nocnoc | the error while writing audio data is from mpg123 |
| 00:31.43 | AgiNamu | nocnoc, not using mpg123? |
| 00:31.44 | AgiNamu | aha |
| 00:31.57 | nocnoc | i checked the code |
| 00:31.57 | AgiNamu | I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you have4 the wrong version ? :) |
| 00:32.31 | nocnoc | im using mpg123-0.59r |
| 00:32.33 | AgiNamu | Asterisk works with exactly 1 version of mpg123 last time i checked. |
| 00:32.35 | AgiNamu | oh. that sounds right. |
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| 00:35.31 | letherglov | nocnoc, try using mpg123 independently of asterisk, does it seem to decode the file appropriately? |
| 00:36.47 | Druken | nocnoc: go into your asterisk source, and make mpg123 |
| 00:36.50 | Druken | :) |
| 00:37.55 | alephcom | Does anybody see a problem with this command? $status = $AGI->get_variable("DIALSTATUS"); |
| 00:38.13 | alephcom | The variable is not getting set. |
| 00:38.16 | AgiNamu | alephcom assuming the agi library works :P |
| 00:38.57 | alephcom | Yeah, no kidding. Any suggestions if it doesn't work? Is there any way I can capture it with an exec command? |
| 00:39.08 | alephcom | I'm grabbing dtmf tones ok. |
| 00:39.10 | heath__ | alephcom, depends which leg of the call you are in as well |
| 00:39.50 | alephcom | It is a calling card app. I have just successfully dialed out and this is executed once the call has been hung up. |
| 00:40.16 | AgiNamu | alephcom all other AGI stuff is returnijg ok? |
| 00:40.26 | alephcom | so far. :-) |
| 00:40.28 | AgiNamu | what's debug agi show? |
| 00:40.32 | nocnoc | lether - yes, it seems so |
| 00:40.52 | nocnoc | alph - i just read on a changelog where they said they fixed it |
| 00:40.53 | letherglov | hmm, that's not good...that means something is working |
| 00:41.04 | alephcom | tks, I'll go look. |
| 00:41.06 | letherglov | perhaps you have more than one installed on the system? |
| 00:41.10 | alephcom | just amoment. |
| 00:41.12 | letherglov | find / -name mpg123, could take a while |
| 00:41.32 | nocnoc | well i actually copied the one i compiled to /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin, just in case |
| 00:41.35 | nocnoc | but its the same version |
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| 00:47.32 | X-Files | tzanger: hey again ! check it http://pastebin.ca/29398 , please |
| 00:48.24 | tzanger | X-Files: first of all, your default context is *empty* |
| 00:48.26 | tzanger | [context1] |
| 00:48.27 | tzanger | [context2] |
| 00:48.30 | tzanger | does not make them equal |
| 00:48.49 | tzanger | second of all, have you done the prequesite homework I asked you to do before I left this morning? |
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| 00:49.16 | X-Files | hmmm |
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| 00:49.45 | tzanger | just don't start singing "hot for teacher" |
| 00:50.15 | AgiNamu | what if its the Richard Cheese version? |
| 00:50.57 | tzanger | not familliar with that version |
| 00:51.41 | AgiNamu | you should download a few richard cheese songs :) |
| 00:52.01 | X-Files | tzanger: need add "include => parkedcalls" to [default] ? |
| 00:52.31 | tzanger | generally speaking I recommend *never* using default context, and having nothing but exten => h,1,Hangup in there |
| 00:52.36 | tzanger | to prevent security problems |
| 00:53.00 | AgiNamu | oh, I'd also like to point out that the Microsoft Ergonomic Natural Keyboard 4000 v1.0 is the best sub-$100 keyboard I've seen. |
| 00:53.06 | X-Files | tzanger: :) ok [default] deleted |
| 00:53.09 | tzanger | to start, change your sip.conf such that you include a good context |
| 00:53.12 | AgiNamu | it's got a 7-degree reverse tilt |
| 00:53.13 | tzanger | no don't delete [default] |
| 00:53.22 | tzanger | keep it there so you can catch config oopses |
| 00:53.24 | AgiNamu | perfect for those who have destroyed their carpal tunnel :) |
| 00:53.41 | tzanger | never liked the natural keyboards |
| 00:53.46 | tzanger | always felt very UNnatural |
| 00:53.47 | AgiNamu | how long you been typing |
| 00:53.49 | tzanger | I like my laptop keyboard |
| 00:53.56 | X-Files | tzanger: u can modefy my config and put in pastebin ? |
| 00:54.00 | X-Files | tzanger: please |
| 00:54.06 | AgiNamu | laptop?! |
| 00:54.08 | tzanger | AgiNamu: oh... professionally? 15 years, every day |
| 00:54.12 | tzanger | X-Files: no. |
| 00:54.25 | X-Files | :( |
| 00:54.25 | Druken | tzanger: i have my laptop keyboard... |
| 00:54.26 | tzanger | X-Files: if you want me to do your work for you, I contract myself out at US$95/hr min 1hr |
| 00:54.26 | X-Files | ok |
| 00:54.27 | AgiNamu | lucky bastard. have you had your wrists slit yet? |
| 00:54.32 | Druken | s/have/hate |
| 00:54.35 | tzanger | AgiNamu: haha nope |
| 00:54.42 | tzanger | I have large hands too |
| 00:54.43 | X-Files | tzanger: :) nice work |
| 00:54.54 | AgiNamu | ive been typing for about 20 years. |
| 00:54.56 | AgiNamu | er, 19 |
| 00:55.02 | tzanger | need large gloves... but the laptop keyboards are the most comfortable for me |
| 00:55.05 | AgiNamu | when I was 17 i still made fun of natural keyboards..... |
| 00:55.16 | AgiNamu | a year later i was dying without it :P |
| 00:55.26 | tzanger | X-Files: I said I gave you pointers to help yourself, and I recommended several things |
| 00:55.41 | tzanger | X-Files: I refuse to hand-hold |
| 00:55.44 | tzanger | AgiNamu: I'm 30 |
| 00:56.46 | AgiNamu | im only 24 :P |
| 00:57.14 | AgiNamu | maybe your hands were better formed when you started typing ;) |
| 00:57.16 | Druken | i'm with AgiNamu, being 24... |
| 00:57.18 | tzanger | haha |
| 00:57.30 | tzanger | well I've been touch typing since grade 9, which owuld put me at 14/15 |
| 00:57.33 | AgiNamu | i have a picture of my father and I, with me at the keyboard when i was 2. |
| 00:57.38 | anonymouz666 | saturday night... vodka+soda today |
| 00:57.52 | tzanger | AgiNamu: I'm not that quite young... I think I was on a C64 at 5 or 6 but that was it |
| 00:58.07 | AgiNamu | i dont think i really understood much... the first stuff i really remember is my 5th birthday, when my bought me an Atari 2600. I was so pissed cause I wanted an IBM. |
| 00:58.15 | tzanger | haha |
| 00:58.19 | tzanger | I loved the c64 |
| 00:58.26 | tzanger | hell I have 5 in my basement with disk dirves, printers, etc. |
| 00:58.29 | AgiNamu | i learned to like the 2600. more games than the ibm :) |
| 00:58.37 | AgiNamu | i had fun with POKE |
| 00:58.49 | nocnoc | poke 53281,0 |
| 00:58.50 | AgiNamu | just watching little pixels. i wasnt that smart to like really program much :P |
| 00:58.57 | tzanger | nocnoc: :-) |
| 00:59.14 | tzanger | nocnoc: who's there? |
| 00:59.24 | AgiNamu | I also remember typing in games from books... and every time there was a syntax error I'd just comment out that line. |
| 00:59.29 | nocnoc | somebody trying to get asterisk to run :D |
| 00:59.30 | AgiNamu | I guess in retrospect i was sorta stupud. |
| 00:59.40 | tzanger | Compute!'s Gazette |
| 00:59.47 | tzanger | how many programs I typed up |
| 01:00.30 | Druken | god i feel young.... |
| 01:00.36 | AgiNamu | lol, reminds me of this article: http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2005/10/20/483041.aspx -- the guy who thought he caused a Microsoft. |
| 01:00.42 | Druken | my first computer was a 286 with windows 3.0 on it |
| 01:01.03 | AgiNamu | Druken, do your parents know youre on IRC? |
| 01:01.43 | nocnoc | sys 64738 |
| 01:01.59 | tzanger | yeah my favourite was 49152 |
| 01:02.06 | tzanger | since that's where I put all my assembly codde |
| 01:02.10 | X-Files | tzanger: Fairly, I have not understood where a problem. I ask to explain on more exact. |
| 01:02.11 | nocnoc | hehehe |
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| 01:02.46 | X-Files | tzanger: in sip.conf ? or extension.conf , maybe other file ? |
| 01:03.08 | tzanger | for what, specifically |
| 01:03.13 | nocnoc | tz - i used to do lame intros for the c64 stuff i got from europe and dist down here at southamerica... i dunno, maybe 15 years ago |
| 01:03.14 | tzanger | X-Files: please, do the requisite reading |
| 01:03.45 | tzanger | I never got into distros |
| 01:03.49 | tzanger | I wasn't good enough with math |
| 01:03.53 | nocnoc | tz - so i used packers and my fav mem segment was like 2064 i think |
| 01:04.06 | jdv79 | tzanger, what did you mean about audio dropout? |
| 01:04.23 | jdv79 | i think it is a carrier somewhere in the loop |
| 01:04.36 | tzanger | jdv79: precisely |
| 01:04.45 | tzanger | you were getting choppy audio before it even hit your network |
| 01:04.45 | jdv79 | i just bypassed the carrier and its not happening |
| 01:04.56 | X-Files | tzanger: read it http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+callgroups+and+pickupgroups ? |
| 01:05.06 | tzanger | X-Files: no, I mean reading the asterisk handbook |
| 01:05.09 | tzanger | and working through the examples |
| 01:05.24 | tzanger | it's clear you are missing several basic concepts of how Asterisk works |
| 01:05.34 | X-Files | hmm |
| 01:05.46 | X-Files | make samples , ok |
| 01:08.35 | Druken | AgiNamu: i don't think they do... no |
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| 01:12.55 | frenzy | can someone help me with DTMF.. |
| 01:13.06 | frenzy | I'm using AreskiCC |
| 01:13.35 | frenzy | when calling Asterisk... After entering the 7th digit I get an engaged tone |
| 01:13.44 | frenzy | with SIP and IAX DID |
| 01:14.13 | Flauto | would someone tell me where is the zaptel drivers are? in what directory |
| 01:17.22 | frenzy | ? |
| 01:20.08 | jdv79 | wow, 1000 sessions concurrent |
| 01:20.15 | AgiNamu | jdv79 on what? |
| 01:20.17 | jdv79 | audio's shitty |
| 01:20.19 | jdv79 | :) |
| 01:20.35 | jdv79 | just some raw stress testing |
| 01:20.42 | AgiNamu | meh, get Asterisk to handle 1000 users |
| 01:20.46 | AgiNamu | then ill be impressed ;() |
| 01:20.49 | jdv79 | yeah |
| 01:21.02 | jdv79 | i wonder if there's anything more i can do to tune the box |
| 01:21.03 | AgiNamu | in my experience 1000 users just trying to REGISTER destroy asterisk. |
| 01:21.06 | jdv79 | it's almost bearable |
| 01:21.11 | AgiNamu | hell, even trying to read a config file with 10,000 users takes forever. |
| 01:21.14 | Dr_Ray | split the load |
| 01:21.16 | jdv79 | oh |
| 01:21.21 | AgiNamu | O(N*N) operations suck ;) |
| 01:21.41 | jdv79 | splitting the load is not the point |
| 01:21.56 | jdv79 | i'd like to understand what is going on at the edge of reality:) |
| 01:21.59 | nocnoc | a real sip proxy comes to mind |
| 01:22.27 | jdv79 | oh, maybe for AgiNamu's stuff but this test is exactly what i'm tryin to do |
| 01:22.42 | deezed | jdv79 - how are you able to stress testing it with so many callers? |
| 01:23.19 | AgiNamu | jdv79, Asterisk's biggest scalability that I've seen is number of users/peers. |
| 01:23.25 | jdv79 | not callers - calls:) |
| 01:23.43 | AgiNamu | like the loading code checks through each peer to make sure its not defined. that's an N^2 op and you just cant load many users. |
| 01:24.02 | jdv79 | luckily i don't have many users |
| 01:24.20 | AgiNamu | I remember a while back someone talking about movning from all those linked lists to hashtables |
| 01:24.24 | AgiNamu | that'd probably have a huge effect |
| 01:24.54 | jdv79 | i'm seeing CPU starvation - i guess there's little to do at that poing |
| 01:24.56 | frenzy | How do I upgrade to the latest asterisk ? |
| 01:24.59 | frenzy | 1.2 |
| 01:25.09 | jdv79 | no transcoding so what do you think? |
| 01:25.36 | jdv79 | the page on asterisk.org says how, no? |
| 01:25.39 | jdv79 | frenzy |
| 01:25.59 | Flauto | what is ztcfg |
| 01:26.07 | AgiNamu | jdv79, you got a profiler? |
| 01:26.08 | jdv79 | it is cool |
| 01:26.18 | AgiNamu | im guessing that its just having a fun time switching between all the items |
| 01:26.20 | jdv79 | AgiNamu, i don't know |
| 01:26.26 | jdv79 | ouch |
| 01:26.45 | jdv79 | does gdb do profiling? |
| 01:26.50 | jdv79 | what's a good profiler |
| 01:26.56 | AgiNamu | you have to compile with profiling and some stuff |
| 01:27.02 | AgiNamu | i dont know i dont profile on linux :) |
| 01:27.06 | jdv79 | i can recompile |
| 01:27.12 | jdv79 | ok |
| 01:27.25 | AgiNamu | there's the google tools as well |
| 01:27.32 | AgiNamu | i never got it to work, but google's cool so :) |
| 01:27.38 | AgiNamu | there's another one called gprof i think |
| 01:27.40 | jdv79 | what's that |
| 01:27.44 | jdv79 | oh |
| 01:27.48 | AgiNamu | gnu profiler |
| 01:28.01 | AgiNamu | you have a multi CPU box? |
| 01:28.08 | jdv79 | dual |
| 01:28.15 | jdv79 | but it shows up as 4 |
| 01:28.17 | AgiNamu | both CPUs are pegged? |
| 01:28.19 | AgiNamu | hypertheaded |
| 01:28.23 | jdv79 | great |
| 01:28.34 | AgiNamu | but all CPUs show 100% utilization? |
| 01:28.40 | jdv79 | well, the load is large |
| 01:28.52 | jdv79 | and vmstat shows lots of procs waiting |
| 01:28.57 | AgiNamu | itd also be interesting to see what disablign hyperthreading does |
| 01:29.01 | jdv79 | i didn't look at those #s |
| 01:29.23 | AgiNamu | well i gotta run |
| 01:29.23 | AgiNamu | later |
| 01:29.25 | jdv79 | its running x86_64 build of RHEL too |
| 01:29.26 | jdv79 | later |
| 01:29.31 | jdv79 | might try 32 bit |
| 01:30.07 | frenzy | jdv79: where is that ? |
| 01:30.23 | frenzy | : |
| 01:30.23 | frenzy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.23 | frenzy | # cd /usr/src |
| 01:30.23 | frenzy | # export CVSROOT=:pserver:anoncvs@cvs.digium.com:/usr/cvsroot |
| 01:30.23 | frenzy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.23 | frenzy | # cvs login - the password is anoncvs. |
| 01:30.25 | frenzy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.27 | frenzy | # cvs checkout zaptel libpri asterisk |
| 01:30.29 | frenzy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.31 | frenzy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.32 | jdv79 | ok |
| 01:30.33 | frenzy | doesnt upgrade |
| 01:30.35 | frenzy | to 1.2 |
| 01:30.38 | jdv79 | you found what i was talking about |
| 01:30.41 | jdv79 | uh |
| 01:30.45 | denon | you didnt specify a tag.. |
| 01:31.04 | denon | you'll get HEAD if you dont specify a tag |
| 01:31.23 | frenzy | -> cvs checkout -r v1-2 zaptel libpri asterisk asterisk-addons asterisk-sounds |
| 01:31.25 | frenzy | :) ? |
| 01:31.41 | denon | somethin like that |
| 01:31.55 | jdv79 | v1-2-0 |
| 01:32.07 | jdv79 | its on the front page of asterisk.org dude |
| 01:32.25 | jdv79 | did you take your vitamins today? |
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| 01:32.33 | frenzy | No |
| 01:32.40 | denon | frenzy: go here: http://cvsweb.digium.com/ and you might understand the CVS structure a bit better |
| 01:32.42 | frenzy | it's 4:30 here |
| 01:32.51 | frenzy | AM |
| 01:34.41 | jdv79 | how come top doesn't show stats for each CPU anymore:( |
| 01:34.54 | jdv79 | its for "cpu(s)" |
| 01:35.00 | jdv79 | lame |
| 01:36.01 | br00ksh1r3 | i'm sure that is just default |
| 01:36.37 | jdv79 | oh |
| 01:36.43 | br00ksh1r3 | press 1 |
| 01:36.47 | br00ksh1r3 | in top |
| 01:36.51 | nocnoc | this is strange. im loading res_features.so, res_musiconhold.so, app_dial.so, when asterisk starts i get a segfault. anybody got a clue? |
| 01:37.19 | nocnoc | i ruled out mpg123 as well |
| 01:38.55 | jdv79 | yeah, they're all pretty evenly loaded up |
| 01:39.02 | jdv79 | nothing abnormal there |
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| 01:40.23 | frenzy | can someone help me with DTMF |
| 01:40.40 | nocnoc | frenzy - what method are you using |
| 01:40.45 | frenzy | IAX |
| 01:41.19 | nocnoc | frenzy uhhh no idea. but i bet IAX prolly support RFC2833 |
| 01:41.21 | frenzy | Its a 10 digit card number... when I get to the 7th it has already received 10 digits |
| 01:42.03 | frenzy | I'm using Nufone... |
| 01:42.15 | nocnoc | call'em :D |
| 01:42.16 | frenzy | it requires to register |
| 01:42.19 | frenzy | :P |
| 01:42.38 | frenzy | I think its more of an issue with my asterisk |
| 01:43.03 | nocnoc | first things first.. are you using inband or out of band dtmf detection |
| 01:43.31 | frenzy | in IAX ? |
| 01:43.39 | nocnoc | in whatever you're using |
| 01:43.48 | nocnoc | make sure you go for oob |
| 01:43.58 | frenzy | for the Register I havent specified |
| 01:44.01 | nocnoc | inband can cause strage shit like you're seeing |
| 01:44.11 | Qwell | inband was an awful idea... |
| 01:44.23 | frenzy | How do I specifiy RFC ? |
| 01:45.08 | frenzy | Just curios.. |
| 01:45.14 | frenzy | amd I suppose to enable relaxdtmf ? |
| 01:45.16 | Qwell | dtmfmode=rfc2833 |
| 01:45.21 | Qwell | wait, iax? |
| 01:45.35 | Qwell | I don't think you CAN change dtmfmode on iax |
| 01:45.36 | frenzy | I'm trying with SIP first |
| 01:45.42 | Qwell | ahh, okay |
| 01:45.45 | Qwell | dtmfmode=rfc2833 then |
| 01:46.01 | frenzy | relaxdtmf (enable ?) |
| 01:46.19 | Qwell | try with 2833 first |
| 01:47.20 | tzanger | 2833 > * |
| 01:47.46 | Qwell | * > * |
| 01:48.25 | frenzy | its the same... |
| 01:48.48 | Qwell | What version of *? |
| 01:48.51 | frenzy | is this a know issue in version 1.0 |
| 01:48.53 | jdv79 | gcc: -pg and -fomit-frame-pointer are incompatible |
| 01:48.57 | Qwell | yes, thats why I asked |
| 01:49.00 | jdv79 | what's -fomit-whatever |
| 01:49.12 | frenzy | I'm damming trying to upgrade |
| 01:49.16 | frenzy | up it doesnt |
| 01:49.30 | jdv79 | co a fresh copy of 1.2 then |
| 01:49.49 | frenzy | I'll loose all my configs |
| 01:49.58 | Flauto | how can i make asterisk to start at bootup |
| 01:50.08 | denon | use one of the init scripts |
| 01:50.10 | Qwell | Flauto: use an init script |
| 01:50.10 | jdv79 | your configs are in your cvs checkout? |
| 01:50.24 | Qwell | frenzy: if you don't run `make samples`, your configs will be fine |
| 01:50.25 | Flauto | qwell, would you show me? |
| 01:50.26 | Qwell | so...don't run that |
| 01:50.45 | Qwell | Flauto: ls contrib/init.d/ |
| 01:51.06 | Qwell | copy one of those to your init dir, then use your distros command to put it into the right runlevel(s) |
| 01:51.07 | jdv79 | i don't think gcc likes that |
| 01:52.23 | Flauto | it tells me no such file or directory |
| 01:52.41 | Qwell | Flauto: keep up |
| 01:53.06 | Flauto | what should i do? |
| 01:54.50 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | Flauto, what distro are you using? |
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| 01:55.17 | Flauto | what is distro? |
| 01:55.32 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | what flavour of Linux are you running? |
| 01:55.39 | Flauto | hehe |
| 01:55.40 | Flauto | okay |
| 01:55.49 | jdv79 | mine needs some salt |
| 01:55.50 | Flauto | i am using mandriva 10.2 |
| 01:55.56 | jdv79 | maybe some curry for some kick too |
| 01:56.04 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | Startup stuff is very distro-specific |
| 01:56.14 | Qwell | Flauto: copy the init script for mandrake to /etc/init.d/, then run chkconfig |
| 01:56.20 | Qwell | I assume mandrake has both of those... |
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| 01:57.16 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | hmm, you need a S##asterisk like startu script for it. Its RPM based just like RH |
| 01:57.25 | Qwell | [TK]D-Fender|AFK: chkconfig |
| 01:57.26 | Qwell | ;] |
| 01:57.51 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | yeah.. something like that :) |
| 01:57.56 | [TK]D-Fender|AFK | I'm a Slacker :) |
| 01:58.01 | Flauto | qwell, i am at /etc/init.d |
| 01:58.17 | Flauto | now, what should i copy to this place? |
| 01:58.53 | Flauto | i understand a cript is needed from asterisk |
| 01:58.56 | Flauto | i am sorry |
| 01:58.59 | Flauto | qwell |
| 01:59.02 | Qwell | in the asterisk source |
| 01:59.05 | Qwell | Flauto: ls contrib/init.d/ |
| 01:59.10 | Qwell | Flauto: copy the init script for mandrake to /etc/init.d/, then run chkconfig |
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| 01:59.57 | in-side | Hi |
| 02:00.13 | in-side | I'm getting this when I try to run asterisk in many modules: /usr/local/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_sip.so: Undefined symbol "ast_uri_encode" |
| 02:00.14 | Flauto | when i ls contrib/init.d/, it tells me no such file or directory |
| 02:00.19 | Qwell | in the asterisk source |
| 02:00.30 | in-side | does anybody have a clue what is happening ? |
| 02:01.12 | Qwell | in-side: Did you downgrade from cvs to stable or anything? |
| 02:01.39 | in-side | no just trying to compile from the source at digium |
| 02:01.42 | in-side | stable 1.2 |
| 02:02.13 | in-side | same error in other modules also |
| 02:02.34 | justinu | make clean; make install |
| 02:02.42 | in-side | already did it |
| 02:02.52 | in-side | I rm all the dirs also |
| 02:02.59 | br00ksh1r3 | which distro? |
| 02:03.05 | in-side | freebsd 6.0 |
| 02:03.08 | br00ksh1r3 | bah |
| 02:03.10 | in-side | release |
| 02:03.10 | br00ksh1r3 | use linux |
| 02:03.11 | alephcom | Well, if any of you want to rip somebody off why don't you try me. I think I have sucker written on my forehead. |
| 02:03.11 | br00ksh1r3 | :) |
| 02:03.20 | Qwell | I don't think 6 is supported yet |
| 02:03.21 | in-side | br00ksh1r3: err... nice solution... |
| 02:03.34 | justinu | alephcom: i'll rip you off, gladly |
| 02:03.38 | in-side | Qwell: hmm I have nested probles with 1.0.9 |
| 02:03.41 | Flauto | at /usr/src, i see asterisk* in green color, is that the one i need to copy to /etc/init.d? |
| 02:03.54 | alephcom | justinu: How many USD do you want? |
| 02:03.59 | Qwell | Flauto: contrib/init.d/ |
| 02:04.00 | justinu | what do you want me to do? |
| 02:04.02 | Qwell | PLEASE keep up |
| 02:04.06 | br00ksh1r3 | that's actually intresting because it compiles on macosx |
| 02:04.15 | in-side | well I will downgrade and try to compile from asterisk from digium sources |
| 02:04.32 | in-side | br00ksh1r3: it used to compile onto FreeBSD |
| 02:04.44 | in-side | but there is something scapping me |
| 02:04.44 | in-side | :S |
| 02:04.46 | Qwell | in-side: people have been successful in compiling on fbsd 6, but...it's not supported |
| 02:04.49 | br00ksh1r3 | freebsd support is kinda flakey |
| 02:04.58 | br00ksh1r3 | it works.. then it doesn't |
| 02:05.00 | br00ksh1r3 | then it works |
| 02:05.02 | br00ksh1r3 | then it doesn't |
| 02:05.04 | in-side | well I have all m asterisk running shinny at 5.4 |
| 02:05.12 | alephcom | justinu: Well, I thought that rather than getting you to tell me a bunch of lies about the stuff you would do, I would just pay you right now. :-) |
| 02:05.16 | in-side | so... there should be some reasonable explanation :S |
| 02:05.17 | Qwell | in-side: yes, because 5.4 is lower than 6 |
| 02:05.27 | Qwell | or you can just ignore me, that's fine too |
| 02:05.31 | justinu | alpehcom: lol ok... i'll take multiples of 100USD :) |
| 02:05.53 | in-side | Qwell: well, i see no reason to be broken at 6.0 |
| 02:05.57 | alephcom | ok, tks. :-) Somebody just got me for $800US so a couple more won't make a difference. :-) |
| 02:06.03 | in-side | but.. ya it isn't working so... |
| 02:06.04 | Qwell | in-side: same reason it won't work on 2.1 |
| 02:06.05 | jdv79 | gprof is defintely confused |
| 02:06.10 | justinu | alpehcom: lol what happened? |
| 02:06.17 | Qwell | simply because nobody has FIXED it to do so |
| 02:06.24 | in-side | threads safe? |
| 02:06.30 | Qwell | interfaces change...shit happens |
| 02:06.34 | in-side | 5.4 already use pthreads |
| 02:06.39 | in-side | ya I know |
| 02:06.48 | in-side | I will get a look to see if I find the reason |
| 02:06.53 | in-side | thnx anyway |
| 02:06.55 | Qwell | google has an answer |
| 02:07.01 | alephcom | justinu: It was Canadian termination at a really good price.:-) Except that once the testing was done and I had prepaid a bunch nothing else happened. It's my fault for being stupid but... |
| 02:07.04 | in-side | no it hasn't |
| 02:07.05 | Qwell | people have gotten it to compile...just need to figure out what they did |
| 02:07.05 | in-side | :S |
| 02:07.06 | in-side | ehhe |
| 02:07.11 | Qwell | or, use 5.x |
| 02:07.12 | jdv79 | maybe it is the thread switching |
| 02:07.12 | br00ksh1r3 | in-side: you can post a bug on the bugtracker |
| 02:07.17 | in-side | can't do both ehhe |
| 02:07.18 | justinu | alephcom: yikes... bummer |
| 02:07.24 | in-side | yes maybe is a good ideia |
| 02:07.24 | deezed | What is the difference between AppendCDRUserField and SetCDRUserField |
| 02:07.24 | br00ksh1r3 | but it probably won't be looked at, lol |
| 02:07.30 | in-side | to post at bug track yes |
| 02:07.50 | in-side | there are lot of bsd users using asterisk by now |
| 02:07.54 | justinu | deezed: if you look up append in the dictionary, you will know |
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| 02:08.06 | alephcom | barnum?? said there was a sucker born everyday... I guess we know who was the sucker on my birthday.. :-) |
| 02:08.20 | justinu | every minute, i thought |
| 02:08.33 | alephcom | Yeah, maybe that's what it was. |
| 02:08.38 | deezed | i know what it means.. but will it just add onto the end of whats already there, or add to it like an array |
| 02:09.18 | justinu | it's just an array in memory, an array of chars |
| 02:09.48 | deezed | ok |
| 02:10.01 | in-side | there are no devel channel of asterisk? |
| 02:10.09 | in-side | here in freenode? |
| 02:10.11 | justinu | #asterisk-dev |
| 02:10.20 | in-side | ok thanks |
| 02:10.52 | jdv79 | anyone else get gprof to work with asterisk? |
| 02:15.40 | tzanger | http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/Cat_Hat.jpg |
| 02:16.29 | in-side | tzanger:lols |
| 02:17.01 | frenzy | there is something wrong.. I tried a complete fresh install |
| 02:17.02 | frenzy | it doesnt work |
| 02:17.09 | frenzy | same old version |
| 02:19.29 | in-side | join to the club |
| 02:19.37 | frenzy | ? |
| 02:20.09 | frenzy | when doing 'make' |
| 02:20.21 | frenzy | I get a bunch of Wmissing-declaration -g3 |
| 02:20.25 | frenzy | is it fine ? |
| 02:21.33 | Qwell | considering -Wmissing-declaration is an option to gcc... |
| 02:24.34 | jdv79 | ya think a load of 35 is too much:) |
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| 02:32.35 | Qwell | jdv79: kernel.org used to roll over past 1024 |
| 02:33.19 | Qwell | don't msg me |
| 02:33.32 | Qwell | if you want to ask a question, ask it in here |
| 02:33.39 | jdv79 | excuse me? |
| 02:33.43 | Qwell | not you |
| 02:33.48 | Qwell | the asshat messaging me |
| 02:34.13 | Qwell | well, the first one was for you :p |
| 02:35.03 | br00ksh1r3 | rawr! |
| 02:35.09 | twisted | zomg |
| 02:35.16 | Qwell | http://kerneltrap.org/node/5070 |
| 02:35.24 | frenzy | damn |
| 02:35.31 | frenzy | I'm on 1.2.0 |
| 02:35.31 | Qwell | " He noted that the load average kept growing, well into triple digits. Referring to 32-bit systems, Peter noted, "we learned that the Linux load average rolls over at 1024. And we actually found this out empirically." " |
| 02:35.40 | frenzy | still got the dtmf issue |
| 02:35.42 | in-side | damn.. I'm getting lonney by this :s |
| 02:36.25 | jdv79 | that's insane |
| 02:36.37 | jdv79 | how can a box still be doing anything useful at that load? |
| 02:36.37 | in-side | frenzy: what dtmf issue? it affects also 1.0.9 ? |
| 02:36.52 | frenzy | ok IAX works |
| 02:36.54 | frenzy | SIP doenst |
| 02:37.11 | Qwell | jdv79: it can...obviously |
| 02:37.55 | in-side | Qwell: even if you use linux....... cof cof... <flame mode=off/> |
| 02:38.09 | Qwell | but, when you run kernel.org...you've got some very, very serious modifications/enhancements |
| 02:38.49 | jdv79 | crazy |
| 02:39.41 | Qwell | but realistically though, when you run one task, and you get that much traffic, 99.9% of the stuff you're doing is already in memory |
| 02:39.52 | jdv79 | i'm hitting some bottleneck around 800-900 sessions hmm |
| 02:40.45 | jdv79 | 800 is ok, 900 is not good |
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| 02:41.01 | Qwell | frenzy: Did you read the topic? |
| 02:41.22 | in-side | Qwell: does it affect also 1.0.9 ? |
| 02:41.40 | Qwell | that bug does not. there is a different bug that affects 1.0.9. ;] |
| 02:41.46 | Qwell | or, was it 1.0.8? whichever |
| 02:42.08 | frenzy | I'm on 1.2.0 ! |
| 02:42.49 | in-side | hmm well.. i don't have money for g729 anyway |
| 02:42.50 | in-side | :p |
| 02:43.39 | Qwell | frenzy: I'll ask again...did you read the topic? |
| 02:43.59 | frenzy | what topic ? |
| 02:44.16 | Qwell | I'm gonna need this. brb |
| 02:44.58 | in-side | damn that bug track is a nightmare... |
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| 02:58.01 | in-side | Qwell: found the problem |
| 02:58.14 | in-side | that was a very stupidy one.... |
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| 03:03.46 | in-side | there were a missed binary lost in wrong place... :S |
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| 03:15.37 | Flauto | i have a question |
| 03:16.00 | twisted | good for you |
| 03:16.06 | Flauto | my x100p is working but when i reboot my machine, it does not start at bootup |
| 03:16.15 | Flauto | so, what should i do |
| 03:16.15 | Qwell | twisted: I rest my case. |
| 03:16.22 | twisted | Flauto, fix it? |
| 03:16.34 | Flauto | how? twisted |
| 03:16.42 | twisted | Flauto, it's linux. |
| 03:17.02 | twisted | Flauto, if it's not starting up on boot, add it to your startup scripts |
| 03:17.15 | Qwell | here it comes |
| 03:17.35 | Qwell | wait for it... |
| 03:18.10 | twisted | do not /msg me |
| 03:18.23 | Flauto | sorry |
| 03:18.46 | Flauto | if you can show me once, i will remember |
| 03:18.59 | twisted | i can't tell you that... all distros are different. learn your distro |
| 03:20.33 | Flauto | of course i did modprobe zaptel and modprobe wcfxo. did i miss anything after that? i read some thing about ztcfg but i really have no idea about it and i don't know what it does |
| 03:21.00 | Qwell | man ztcfg |
| 03:21.44 | hhoffman | what distro are you using? |
| 03:22.03 | Qwell | there is a zaptel init script for mandrake |
| 03:22.16 | Qwell | Did you listen to what I said (15 times) earlier? |
| 03:22.52 | hhoffman | o_0 |
| 03:23.33 | Qwell | screw it |
| 03:23.39 | Qwell | Flauto: I'll do it for you, for $20 |
| 03:23.51 | hhoffman | ah |
| 03:24.10 | twisted | yeah, and he'll secure your box for free, too ;) |
| 03:24.22 | Qwell | if by secure, you mean root, yes |
| 03:24.25 | twisted | haha |
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| 03:25.11 | Flauto | qwell, i was listening to you and i was looking around to find the init.d |
| 03:25.13 | twisted | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda |
| 03:25.25 | Flauto | but you never told me about what should i do about it |
| 03:25.29 | Qwell | It's IN THE ASTERISK SOURCE |
| 03:25.31 | Flauto | i do want to learn |
| 03:25.32 | Qwell | and, the hell I didn't |
| 03:25.38 | hhoffman | now, that's just wrong |
| 03:25.42 | Qwell | Flauto: copy the init script for mandrake to /etc/init.d/, then run chkconfig |
| 03:25.53 | Qwell | that's in my scrollback of xchat like...5 times |
| 03:26.28 | Flauto | i found /etc/init.d but where is the script for mandrake |
| 03:26.38 | Qwell | TO. TO /etc/init.d |
| 03:26.41 | twisted | ZOMG |
| 03:26.46 | hhoffman | ha |
| 03:26.54 | Qwell | Flauto: http://www.jillsjokeline.com/cluepon.jpg |
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| 03:27.19 | asterboy | howdy ho |
| 03:27.31 | twisted | who you callin a ho, biatch? |
| 03:27.38 | Qwell | You, ho |
| 03:27.46 | asterboy | yo ho |
| 03:27.55 | asterboy | ho and a bottle of rum! |
| 03:28.11 | twisted | give me some hos and a few bottles of rum |
| 03:28.14 | twisted | all will be well |
| 03:28.16 | twisted | hi file[laptop] |
| 03:28.20 | asterboy | how goes the 1.2.0? |
| 03:28.22 | file[laptop] | hail fellow Josh |
| 03:28.44 | asterboy | just got off service calls all day...if I have the fortitude, I'll do an upgrade. |
| 03:28.47 | twisted | speaking of hos and rum |
| 03:28.57 | twisted | i have a new job now |
| 03:29.15 | Qwell | eh? |
| 03:29.19 | file[laptop] | does it involve sexy people? |
| 03:29.20 | twisted | heh |
| 03:29.20 | Qwell | no more Asstearia? |
| 03:29.22 | Flauto | qwell, i still dont' know what should i copy to /etc/init.d |
| 03:29.27 | twisted | Qwell, no, still there |
| 03:29.28 | Qwell | for fucks sake |
| 03:29.38 | Qwell | Flauto: where is your asterisk source located? |
| 03:29.39 | twisted | i'm a bouncer at a bar now too though |
| 03:29.43 | Qwell | heh, wtf? |
| 03:29.45 | Flauto | usr/src |
| 03:29.52 | hhoffman | Flauto: copy rc.mandrake.asterisk and rc.mandrake.zaptel to /etc/rc.d/init.d/ |
| 03:30.04 | Qwell | cp /usr/src/asterisk/contrib/init.d/rc.mandrake.* /etc/init.d/ |
| 03:30.10 | Qwell | chkconfig zaptel on |
| 03:30.12 | Qwell | chkconfig asterisk on |
| 03:30.31 | asterboy | lol, most tech guys I know have to have two jobs cause they get paid for flipping burgers when they should be making $250,000/year. |
| 03:30.40 | Qwell | If you ask one more time how to do it, I'm going to bitchslap you |
| 03:30.46 | twisted | hah |
| 03:30.49 | twisted | i'm making a good salary |
| 03:30.59 | hhoffman | 250k/yr ??? |
| 03:31.11 | twisted | no, but good none the less |
| 03:31.14 | hhoffman | that's crazy talk ;-) |
| 03:31.20 | twisted | i can survive plus have fun on what i make |
| 03:31.28 | hhoffman | same here |
| 03:31.39 | br00ksh1r3 | he's just doing it for the free liquor |
| 03:31.39 | twisted | so this second job is just for fun really |
| 03:31.44 | twisted | there is no free liqour |
| 03:31.47 | twisted | you ninny |
| 03:31.50 | newl | twisted: well, at least you'll never go hungry with all those Kitkat bars. |
| 03:31.51 | Qwell | bouncers usually can't drink |
| 03:31.51 | br00ksh1r3 | sorry.. 1/2 price liquor |
| 03:31.56 | file[laptop] | br00ksh1r3: Mattttttttttt!!! |
| 03:32.01 | br00ksh1r3 | hey file! |
| 03:32.08 | twisted | Qwell, i'm only gonna be working there like 2 nights a week |
| 03:32.11 | file[laptop] | Matt makes me happy. |
| 03:32.17 | twisted | br00ksh1r3, speaking of cheap stuff..... |
| 03:32.21 | Qwell | how divish is this bar? |
| 03:32.27 | twisted | Qwell, not very |
| 03:32.29 | Qwell | shame |
| 03:32.33 | br00ksh1r3 | yeah.. it's not at all |
| 03:32.39 | twisted | br00ksh1r3, up for more tonight? |
| 03:32.40 | br00ksh1r3 | it's a pool hall |
| 03:32.43 | br00ksh1r3 | NO!! |
| 03:32.44 | twisted | slash bar |
| 03:32.51 | twisted | no?! |
| 03:32.54 | br00ksh1r3 | no |
| 03:33.00 | twisted | can't keep up, eh? |
| 03:33.07 | br00ksh1r3 | well.. hehe |
| 03:33.17 | br00ksh1r3 | i'm meeting someone |
| 03:33.20 | br00ksh1r3 | special |
| 03:33.21 | br00ksh1r3 | lol |
| 03:33.25 | twisted | br00ksh1r3, the one from last night? |
| 03:33.29 | br00ksh1r3 | heck no |
| 03:33.32 | twisted | rofl |
| 03:33.42 | file[laptop] | oh I see what's happening... you're going to get together... |
| 03:33.59 | file[laptop] | setup some user and peer entries between eachother eh |
| 03:34.22 | br00ksh1r3 | hehe |
| 03:34.24 | twisted | file[laptop], i'm not involved in that. |
| 03:34.25 | br00ksh1r3 | i have no idea |
| 03:34.41 | file[laptop] | do a native transfer eh? EH? aww I'm all out of material... |
| 03:34.53 | twisted | rofl |
| 03:34.55 | twisted | that's sick. |
| 03:35.44 | asterboy | William in tights and no shirt |
| 03:35.50 | Qwell | twisted: There's a good bar by my place |
| 03:35.57 | file[laptop] | twisted: hrm... ogorman? |
| 03:36.01 | twisted | Qwell, k. i'll be there in 6 hours. |
| 03:36.07 | Qwell | I'll be up |
| 03:36.09 | twisted | lol |
| 03:36.14 | br00ksh1r3 | twisted: mark is going out tonight |
| 03:36.31 | twisted | br00ksh1r3, i'm not up for insomnia again tonight |
| 03:36.44 | Qwell | hell, 6 hours...it'll only be 1:30. bars would be open for another 30 minutes or so :p |
| 03:36.49 | Flauto | qwell, thanks very much but when i use chkconfig zaptel and chkconfig asterisk |
| 03:36.52 | hypa7ia | sleep is for the weak. and it's the weekend! |
| 03:36.54 | Flauto | nothing happened |
| 03:36.58 | Qwell | Flauto: exactly |
| 03:37.08 | twisted | hypa7ia, insomnia is a club here |
| 03:37.17 | Qwell | Flauto: now reboot and try it out |
| 03:37.21 | Qwell | you can thank me later |
| 03:37.24 | Qwell | s/thank/pay/ |
| 03:37.30 | twisted | s/later/now |
| 03:37.36 | Qwell | s/can/will/ |
| 03:37.41 | Qwell | s/you/everybody/ |
| 03:37.43 | Flauto | i see rc.mandrake.asterisk and zaptel in /etc/init.d |
| 03:37.50 | hypa7ia | twisted: ahhh, makes sense :) |
| 03:38.44 | Qwell | Flauto: yes, that's a good thing |
| 03:39.12 | twisted | lol |
| 03:39.47 | file[laptop] | twisted: were too many gay people hitting on you @ Insomnia? |
| 03:39.54 | twisted | file[laptop], no |
| 03:39.58 | file[laptop] | that's sad |
| 03:40.01 | Qwell | just the right amount? |
| 03:40.02 | Qwell | :D |
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| 03:46.41 | Flauto | qwell |
| 03:46.46 | Flauto | it is working |
| 03:46.49 | Flauto | thanks very much |
| 03:46.53 | Flauto | give me your email |
| 03:47.03 | Flauto | i will send you 20 via paypal |
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| 03:52.19 | Qwell | Flauto: Where/when are you seeing that error? |
| 03:53.14 | Flauto | i rebooted my machine |
| 03:53.33 | Flauto | i was looking at an xten on my laptop |
| 03:53.40 | Flauto | for a while |
| 03:53.46 | Flauto | it was showing logging in |
| 03:53.49 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Qwell, Qwell, Qwell |
| 03:54.02 | Flauto | then, it said logged in |
| 03:54.03 | Qwell | s/Qwell/tsk/g |
| 03:54.11 | Flauto | so i thought it worked |
| 03:54.29 | MikeJ[Laptop] | go go gadget compiler. |
| 03:54.38 | Flauto | but when i tried to connect to my asterisk by asterisk -r |
| 03:55.25 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ========== Build: 17 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped ========== |
| 03:55.34 | Flauto | it tells me that "Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl exist?)" |
| 03:55.36 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hmmm I think that's good, right? |
| 03:55.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :P |
| 03:55.38 | Qwell | MikeJ[Laptop]: .net? |
| 03:55.42 | MikeJ[Laptop] | umm |
| 03:55.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yeah |
| 03:55.49 | twisted | omg |
| 03:55.49 | Qwell | 2.0? |
| 03:55.51 | twisted | i should bitchslap you |
| 03:55.59 | Flauto | so i tried to start my asterisk by asterisk -vvvgc |
| 03:56.01 | Qwell | not used to seeing 4 things there |
| 03:56.02 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hehe |
| 03:56.08 | Flauto | it tells me a broken pipe |
| 03:56.11 | MikeJ[Laptop] | twisted, that was for me right? |
| 03:56.16 | twisted | MikeJ[Laptop], yes |
| 03:56.24 | MikeJ[Laptop] | don't worry.. it's not asterisk |
| 03:56.25 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hehe |
| 03:56.30 | twisted | heh |
| 03:56.38 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it is voip stuff tho... |
| 03:56.49 | Flauto | so i told you it is not working |
| 03:56.52 | Qwell | Flauto: How did you install asterisk/zaptel? |
| 03:57.21 | twisted | with a fork |
| 03:57.31 | MikeJ[Laptop] | no.. spoon? |
| 03:57.37 | Flauto | when i did modprobe zaptel and modprobe wcfxo, asterisk started |
| 03:57.40 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I thought fork was a bad word |
| 03:57.53 | twisted | fine. |
| 03:57.54 | twisted | spork. |
| 03:57.55 | Corydon76-home | It's definitely a 4-letter word |
| 03:57.57 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ok..; |
| 03:58.07 | Flauto | it seems that the driver did not load for some reason. |
| 03:58.11 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Corydon76-home, that it is |
| 03:58.27 | Flauto | qwell, i used cvs |
| 03:58.31 | file[laptop] | vfork! |
| 03:58.32 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Flauto, I think that tit didn't load becuase you didn't do it right |
| 03:58.38 | Corydon76-home | MikeJ[Laptop]: I see you enjoy dry humor... |
| 03:58.41 | twisted | but this tit did. |
| 03:58.50 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hmmm |
| 03:59.01 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I like wet.... ummmm......drinks |
| 03:59.05 | Qwell | Flauto: cat "MODULES=\"zaptel wcfxo\"" > /etc/sysconfig/zaptel |
| 03:59.09 | Qwell | Type EXACTLY that |
| 03:59.12 | twisted | i like wet cats. |
| 03:59.13 | Qwell | no |
| 03:59.16 | Qwell | wait, heh |
| 03:59.19 | Qwell | Flauto: echo "MODULES=\"zaptel wcfxo\"" > /etc/sysconfig/zaptel |
| 03:59.20 | Qwell | there |
| 03:59.55 | file[laptop] | sluts and whores! |
| 04:00.05 | twisted | windows and doors |
| 04:00.44 | Qwell | Flauto: Then do - rmmod wcfxo zaptel |
| 04:00.50 | Corydon76-home | Sevens and fours |
| 04:00.56 | twisted | hah |
| 04:01.23 | Qwell | well, stop asterisk first |
| 04:01.42 | Corydon76-home | No, wait, that's wrong... |
| 04:01.47 | Corydon76-home | Queens and fours |
| 04:02.45 | Flauto | cat: MODULES="zaptel wcfxo": No such file or directory |
| 04:02.48 | Qwell | echo |
| 04:02.51 | Qwell | not cat... |
| 04:03.00 | Flauto | okay |
| 04:03.29 | file[laptop] | ah MadTV... perfect |
| 04:03.47 | twisted | rofl |
| 04:03.50 | twisted | this movie is funny |
| 04:03.57 | Flauto | qwell |
| 04:03.57 | Flauto | done now |
| 04:04.03 | twisted | "do you have birth control?" "...menopause..." |
| 04:04.03 | Qwell | Flauto: stop asterisk and rmmod those modules |
| 04:04.11 | file[laptop] | twisted: lol |
| 04:04.15 | Flauto | modprobe? |
| 04:04.19 | Qwell | rmmod |
| 04:04.24 | Qwell | or modprobe -r, whichever |
| 04:04.29 | Corydon76-home | The movie I just watched was... disturbing... |
| 04:04.34 | *** join/#asterisk stkn_ (i=nobody@gentoo/developer/pdpc.active.stkn) |
| 04:04.39 | file[laptop] | away I hop, be back tomorrow |
| 04:04.54 | twisted | Corydon76-home, did the choir boy get an STD? |
| 04:05.07 | Flauto | done |
| 04:05.13 | Corydon76-home | twisted: close... he got dead... |
| 04:05.21 | twisted | o_O |
| 04:05.25 | Flauto | used modprobe -r |
| 04:05.53 | Corydon76-home | That's what happens when you face Voldemort |
| 04:06.02 | twisted | riiiight |
| 04:06.17 | Qwell | Flauto: ls -l /etc/rc3.d/*zaptel* |
| 04:06.20 | Qwell | What does that return? |
| 04:07.37 | Flauto | ls: /etc/rc3.d/zaptel: No such file or directory |
| 04:07.44 | Qwell | with the *'s |
| 04:07.46 | Qwell | *zaptel* |
| 04:07.53 | Flauto | oh |
| 04:07.55 | Qwell | It's like S90zaptel, or something stupid |
| 04:08.15 | Qwell | oh, wait...the init file has that, doesn't it? |
| 04:08.23 | Qwell | /etc/rc3.d/S90zaptel restart |
| 04:08.54 | file[laptop] | okay it's tomorrow, and I'm back |
| 04:09.07 | twisted | it's not tomorrow |
| 04:09.12 | file[laptop] | it's Sunday. |
| 04:09.16 | twisted | it's today |
| 04:09.16 | Qwell | umm |
| 04:09.19 | twisted | it's always today |
| 04:09.19 | file[laptop] | it's tomorrow for you |
| 04:09.22 | Qwell | unless you're an hour past eastern |
| 04:09.29 | twisted | no |
| 04:09.34 | Qwell | or you don't observe dst I guess |
| 04:09.41 | file[laptop] | my today is your tomorrow. |
| 04:09.43 | twisted | it will never be tomorrow, it is always today |
| 04:09.53 | SubWolf | Soon we will know the future. |
| 04:10.05 | twisted | and yesterday is but a thing of the past |
| 04:10.07 | Flauto | bash: /etc/rc3.d/S90zaptel: No such file or directory |
| 04:10.13 | Qwell | yeah, figures |
| 04:10.16 | Qwell | Flauto: run that ls command |
| 04:10.26 | file[laptop] | twisted: would you like... a cookie? |
| 04:10.32 | Qwell | I have no clue what it's called |
| 04:10.33 | file[laptop] | OF DOOM! |
| 04:10.45 | twisted | file[laptop], not today |
| 04:10.46 | twisted | :P |
| 04:10.46 | Flauto | ls: /etc/rc3.d/*zaptel*: No such file or directory |
| 04:10.51 | file[laptop] | otay |
| 04:10.51 | Qwell | stupid mandrake |
| 04:11.10 | Qwell | Flauto: give me access to that machine? It'll be a hell of a lot faster |
| 04:12.00 | Flauto | qwell, i know it will be faster but i want to figure out what is going on as well, i am learning |
| 04:12.31 | Flauto | it is okay for now. i can start asterisk myself after reload |
| 04:12.43 | Qwell | I can tell you what was wrong when I'm done. It's probably just not added to the right runlevel for whatever reason |
| 04:13.46 | Flauto | qwell, i messed up my mandrake a couple of days ago so i had to reinstall everything |
| 04:13.56 | Flauto | i had a little bit stuff backed up |
| 04:14.47 | Flauto | i realized that zaptel and wcfxo were loadking at the beginning of starting up and shutting down |
| 04:14.56 | Flauto | but this time, it really does not |
| 04:15.06 | Qwell | Flauto: I can fix it if you give me access for like...2 minutes tops |
| 04:15.37 | Qwell | I just don't know how mandrake structures these stupid init dirs |
| 04:15.42 | Flauto | you taught me how to start asterisk at bootup and you did your job already, i will pay you for sure |
| 04:15.55 | Flauto | would you give me your email one more time |
| 04:15.58 | Flauto | i will send it now |
| 04:16.18 | Qwell | eh...if it don't work, I don't get paid |
| 04:16.58 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: /etc/init.d/whatever is where the startup scripts can be found |
| 04:17.06 | Flauto | i think if the wcfxo and zaptel load at bootup, asterisk would start |
| 04:17.07 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: I mean the rc dirs |
| 04:17.18 | Qwell | Flauto: yes, thats exactly the issue. I think I screwed up |
| 04:17.26 | Qwell | rm /etc/init.d/rc.mandrake.asterisk |
| 04:17.28 | Qwell | rm /etc/init.d/rc.mandrake.zaptel |
| 04:17.38 | Corydon76-home | /etc/rc3.d |
| 04:17.45 | Qwell | cp /usr/src/asterisk/contrib/init.d/rc.mandrake.zaptel /etc/init.d/zaptel |
| 04:17.50 | Qwell | cp /usr/src/asterisk/contrib/init.d/rc.mandrake.asterisk /etc/init.d/asterisk |
| 04:17.53 | Qwell | chkconfig zaptel on |
| 04:17.55 | Qwell | chkconfig asterisk on |
| 04:17.56 | *** join/#asterisk RazorJack (n=RazorJac@205.211.153.20) |
| 04:18.04 | Qwell | If that doesn't fix the problem...yeah |
| 04:18.17 | Corydon76-home | Oh, gee, people are actually using my startup scripts? |
| 04:18.23 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: perhaps |
| 04:18.26 | RazorJack | When I dial a number, any number..... asterisk hangs a really long time before it dials..... no clue where to / or how to debug this... any ideas? |
| 04:18.28 | Corydon76-home | Maybe I should fix them, then |
| 04:18.32 | RazorJack | I am using AMP latest version. |
| 04:18.40 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: Damin is working on it. bug on the tracker right now |
| 04:18.53 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: not for Mandrake he isn't |
| 04:19.00 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: no, not mdk |
| 04:19.12 | Qwell | Flauto: run all 6 of those commands, then do /etc/init.d/zaptel restart and /etc/init.d/asterisk restart |
| 04:19.22 | Qwell | then if you can't asterisk -r, yell at Corydon76-home :p |
| 04:19.24 | Corydon76-home | They largely work already... there's just a few small problems |
| 04:19.39 | Qwell | You know what would be REALLY nice? |
| 04:19.47 | Qwell | make init-mandrake |
| 04:19.47 | Corydon76-home | A blowjob? |
| 04:19.48 | Qwell | or |
| 04:19.50 | Qwell | make init-gentoo |
| 04:20.13 | Qwell | or perhaps make -C contrib/init.d/ |
| 04:20.17 | Qwell | and let it figure it out |
| 04:20.20 | Corydon76-home | I think I'll go eat some Brie |
| 04:20.36 | Chuji | yuck |
| 04:21.07 | Qwell | actually, I like that idea...maybe I'll spend a few minutes hacking that up |
| 04:21.24 | Qwell | Flauto: is it working? |
| 04:21.43 | rajiv | in manager.conf i set bindaddr=192.168.1.10 yet netstat -tl shows * listening on *:5038. whats up with that? |
| 04:21.59 | Qwell | rajiv: Did you restart asterisk? |
| 04:22.04 | rajiv | i reloaded |
| 04:22.10 | Qwell | and does manager support bindaddr? |
| 04:22.17 | Qwell | yes, it does...I use it at work |
| 04:22.20 | rajiv | it's in the example configs |
| 04:22.29 | Qwell | try restarting instead of just a reload |
| 04:22.44 | Qwell | or unload then load the module |
| 04:22.56 | rajiv | ah yes. a full restart fixed it. |
| 04:22.56 | rajiv | thx |
| 04:23.15 | Qwell | reload doesn't always reload everything. unloading and loading should, restarting definitely will |
| 04:23.36 | rajiv | interesitng. setting bindaddr=hostname doesn't work either. i have to use ip addr |
| 04:23.43 | Qwell | yep |
| 04:23.53 | Qwell | there is a bindhost option in some of the modules |
| 04:24.32 | rajiv | not in this one. oh well |
| 04:25.11 | Qwell | rajiv: well, one of the benefits of open source... |
| 04:25.40 | rajiv | ya i wonder what a patch for that would be like |
| 04:25.53 | Qwell | I don't imagine it'll be too difficult |
| 04:26.04 | Qwell | especially if you can just borrow the code from another module. ;] |
| 04:26.17 | Qwell | I think it was sip that supported it |
| 04:26.47 | Qwell | I could be wrong about the name too... |
| 04:27.04 | rajiv | are patches for 1.0.9 still accepted or is everything new going into 1.2 ? |
| 04:27.20 | Qwell | 1.2 |
| 04:27.28 | Qwell | 1.0.9 is maintenance only |
| 04:27.29 | Flauto | permission denied |
| 04:27.32 | Qwell | and, even then... |
| 04:27.35 | Qwell | Flauto: You need to be root |
| 04:27.50 | Flauto | okay |
| 04:28.22 | Qwell | heh, you know what |
| 04:28.33 | Qwell | rajiv: I was thinking of externhost...my bad |
| 04:28.42 | Qwell | bindhost isn't valid anywhere |
| 04:29.10 | Qwell | rajiv: If you need to bind to a dynamic IP, you could just use iptables or something, and listen on * |
| 04:29.24 | Flauto | let me reboot |
| 04:29.39 | Qwell | Flauto: Didn't get any errors in any of those commands, right? |
| 04:29.57 | rajiv | no i just dont want to put the host's internal ip in configs. i would like to use the name so that if the ip changes i can update it in dns and restart * and not have to also update the config files |
| 04:30.18 | Qwell | rajiv: yeah...but you can bind on 0.0.0.0 |
| 04:30.29 | X-Files | Qwell: u use 1.2.0 ? |
| 04:30.32 | Qwell | X-Files: cvs |
| 04:30.38 | X-Files | fun :) |
| 04:30.44 | X-Files | work *8 ? |
| 04:30.52 | Qwell | *8? |
| 04:30.56 | X-Files | yep |
| 04:31.20 | X-Files | Qwell: pickupexten = *8 |
| 04:31.34 | Qwell | if it's in 1.2, it's in cvs |
| 04:32.11 | X-Files | Qwell: check please :) dial *8 and see debug mode |
| 04:35.20 | X-Files | Qwell: check console *, write "show dialplan" . You see *8 where 700 ? |
| 04:35.32 | Qwell | X-Files: no, because I don't have it enabled |
| 04:35.39 | Qwell | if it's in 1.2, it's in cvs |
| 04:36.18 | X-Files | Qwell: res_features.so not load ? |
| 04:40.20 | twisted | zomg |
| 04:41.19 | Qwell | I think Flauto died. |
| 04:41.26 | Qwell | I guess that means I'm not getting paid. :( |
| 04:44.46 | asterboy | upgrade time. |
| 04:47.13 | twisted | X-Files, DO NOT MSG ME |
| 04:47.19 | X-Files | ok |
| 04:47.37 | X-Files | twisted: there talk ? |
| 04:54.27 | *** join/#asterisk Flauto (n=zhao@c-24-14-197-214.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 04:54.35 | Flauto | qwell, did not work |
| 04:54.37 | Flauto | same thing |
| 04:54.43 | Flauto | i had to do modprobe again |
| 04:54.50 | twisted | bitches... made me install my query blocker again. |
| 04:55.33 | twisted | GXTi, because i'm not your personal helpdesk? |
| 04:55.58 | GXTi | you could gently redirect them back to the channel instead of making them feel bad |
| 04:56.15 | twisted | and you could gently not get worked up over something that doesn't involve you :) |
| 04:56.35 | GXTi | i figured since you posted it to the channel that it was up for public discussion ;) |
| 04:56.42 | twisted | sure. |
| 04:56.57 | twisted | you can discuss it all you want :) |
| 05:00.03 | Qwell | Flauto: like I said...if I had access to that machine, I could probably fix it |
| 05:00.16 | Qwell | twisted: Why use a query blocker, and not +g? |
| 05:00.25 | Qwell | woah, freenode sucks...no g |
| 05:00.27 | Qwell | nevermind :p |
| 05:00.35 | twisted | haha |
| 05:00.49 | Qwell | lilo: stop adding silly features, and add useful stuff. :P |
| 05:00.53 | twisted | i can block unregistered queries, but if someone is in this channel, they're registered. |
| 05:03.32 | asterboy | doh...can't compile. |
| 05:03.43 | asterboy | ran out of room on my huge 2Gb hd. |
| 05:05.06 | twisted | i thought billy said that nobody could ever need more than 640k of storage.. |
| 05:05.10 | *** join/#asterisk MikeJ[Laptop] (n=ircatjer@d14-69-8-30.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 05:05.13 | twisted | oh well |
| 05:05.15 | Qwell | memory, wasn't it? |
| 05:05.32 | twisted | hey MikeJ[Laptop] |
| 05:05.34 | twisted | do me a favor |
| 05:06.04 | *** join/#asterisk h3x (n=h3xor@64.192.116.16) |
| 05:06.13 | Qwell | Flauto: so, is that a no? |
| 05:06.35 | *** join/#asterisk doce (n=rquydjoq@static-71-251-95-2.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 05:06.42 | *** join/#asterisk Vco (n=Vco@S01060050da6df072.sc.shawcable.net) |
| 05:06.50 | MikeJ[Laptop] | twisted, wassup/ |
| 05:06.55 | *** join/#asterisk llirk (n=majestic@203-214-45-156.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 05:07.50 | doce | ok Im now gay. . Im running an irc client on MAC OSX x86 |
| 05:08.14 | asterboy | ok Harry Potter it is. |
| 05:08.16 | llirk | sup |
| 05:09.49 | SkramX | Yo |
| 05:12.29 | MikeJ[Laptop] | twisted? |
| 05:13.20 | twisted | MikeJ[Laptop], sorry, had to poop |
| 05:13.23 | twisted | MikeJ[Laptop], /msg me |
| 05:14.24 | doce | TMI! |
| 05:14.31 | h3x | p00p |
| 05:14.41 | Vco | Das poop |
| 05:15.37 | asterboy | ok...no Harry Potter...yuk! |
| 05:16.02 | h3x | they were just playing harry potter at this bar i was at |
| 05:16.02 | h3x | blah |
| 05:16.08 | Vco | uhh |
| 05:16.10 | h3x | that stupid flying car |
| 05:16.13 | Vco | gay bar? |
| 05:16.14 | asterboy | mindless crap |
| 05:16.16 | h3x | no |
| 05:16.19 | h3x | i should have asked |
| 05:16.22 | h3x | maybe iw ent to the wrong one |
| 05:16.23 | h3x | haha |
| 05:16.24 | Flauto | qwell, not working |
| 05:16.40 | Qwell | Flauto: just give me access, and I'll have it fixed in like 5 minutes |
| 05:16.42 | Flauto | i still had to modprobe zaptel and wcfxo |
| 05:16.54 | Vco | ahh.. |
| 05:17.07 | Vco | i should see when that starts again on MC |
| 05:17.18 | Flauto | then, you know my root password |
| 05:17.25 | Qwell | Flauto: you can change it later |
| 05:17.55 | Flauto | it is okay, i will just modprobe everytime when i need to restart my computer |
| 05:17.57 | Flauto | that is okay |
| 05:17.59 | Flauto | thanks |
| 05:18.08 | Flauto | would you give me your email again |
| 05:18.31 | twisted | MikeJ[Laptop], do it again please? |
| 05:18.40 | Qwell | no, because if I didn't fix anything, I shouldn't get paid |
| 05:18.46 | Qwell | so, don't worry about it |
| 05:19.25 | Flauto | it seems that asterisk would start up if the driver loads |
| 05:19.49 | Qwell | which I can fix, if you'll let me. :P |
| 05:19.54 | Flauto | when i loaded the driver asterisk did start |
| 05:20.05 | twisted | Qwell, you do it ;) |
| 05:20.11 | Qwell | I'm trying to, heh |
| 05:20.17 | twisted | nono |
| 05:20.19 | twisted | i mean /msg me |
| 05:20.22 | Qwell | uh oh |
| 05:20.26 | Flauto | my gf is home |
| 05:20.29 | Flauto | got to go |
| 05:20.39 | Vco | time to put away the gay porn |
| 05:20.53 | twisted | Qwell, ? |
| 05:20.55 | Qwell | did |
| 05:21.02 | Qwell | I was rejected. :p |
| 05:21.03 | Flauto | flauto@gmail.com is my email send your address qwell |
| 05:22.57 | mishehu | gah. I thought that the fix for the RFC2833 bug was committed to 1.2.0... |
| 05:23.09 | *** join/#asterisk RazorJack (n=RazorJac@205.211.153.20) |
| 05:23.11 | twisted | nah |
| 05:23.13 | twisted | cvs |
| 05:23.32 | twisted | head |
| 05:23.38 | mishehu | twisted: I tried to patch my source with the patch from the bug, and it failed to patch. |
| 05:23.39 | RazorJack | Is there a way to speed up dialing? It takes 10-15 seconds before it actually dials.... any ideas? |
| 05:23.49 | Qwell | RazorJack: What type of device? |
| 05:24.07 | RazorJack | TDM400P |
| 05:24.12 | Qwell | You have an overlapping dialplan |
| 05:24.14 | Qwell | ie |
| 05:24.20 | Qwell | 1234 and 12345 |
| 05:24.33 | Qwell | or _NXXNXXXXXX and you're dialing 55555 |
| 05:24.47 | RazorJack | Qwell; using AMP... that the problem? |
| 05:24.50 | Qwell | likely |
| 05:25.30 | mishehu | patching file channels/chan_sip.c; Hunk #1 FAILED at 4267. 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file channels/chan_sip.c.rej |
| 05:25.51 | RazorJack | dont you just love when patching fails :) |
| 05:26.18 | mishehu | yeah |
| 05:26.30 | mishehu | I love it better when I can use dtmf's within a conversation |
| 05:26.42 | RazorJack | Qwell; when you dial, does it dial instantly? |
| 05:26.43 | mishehu | voicemail really loves it when you can't push buttons |
| 05:26.46 | Qwell | dtmf is useless |
| 05:26.56 | Qwell | RazorJack: with the tdm, it should...as long as it finds a match |
| 05:27.12 | RazorJack | Qwell; CPU speed matter? |
| 05:27.16 | Qwell | no |
| 05:27.25 | Qwell | not unless you're running asterisk on a C64 |
| 05:27.37 | RazorJack | Qwell; hmmm, well watching the console when dialing.... it seems to pause on various junk |
| 05:27.46 | Qwell | define various junk |
| 05:27.49 | RazorJack | I doubt its the dialplan, cause I just deleted it |
| 05:27.54 | RazorJack | local extensions pause now too |
| 05:27.55 | Vco | oO |
| 05:28.01 | twisted | mishehu, the patch is only for cvs-head |
| 05:28.05 | RazorJack | 1sec, ill pastebin |
| 05:28.22 | twisted | mishehu, and the patch has already been applied to cvs-head |
| 05:29.14 | RazorJack | hmmmm its a recordingcheck.agi.... maybe I should look at what its doing |
| 05:29.30 | RazorJack | GAH its a php script |
| 05:29.57 | RazorJack | line 2: exit; mwahahaha :) |
| 05:32.13 | RazorJack | -- Called 4/6532046 |
| 05:32.20 | RazorJack | thats where it pauses for like 4-5s |
| 05:33.17 | Vco | any obvious reasons why music on hold wouldn't be working in 1.2.0 if it was fine in rc1 and rc2 etc etc... |
| 05:33.27 | Qwell | Vco: forgot to add ztdummy? |
| 05:33.35 | Vco | hmmm.. |
| 05:33.42 | Vco | good question |
| 05:33.44 | Qwell | erm, nm |
| 05:33.47 | Qwell | that wouldn't affect it |
| 05:33.48 | Vco | like. |
| 05:33.53 | Vco | theres just no audio |
| 05:34.07 | Vco | it appears to play, ie. i join a conference, and music on hold starts playing.. |
| 05:34.14 | Vco | but i hear zilch |
| 05:34.20 | Qwell | yeah, dunno |
| 05:34.48 | Vco | k... |
| 05:41.09 | MikeJ[Laptop] | twisted, so.. you asked me to talk to you.. and now your PM is rejecting me |
| 05:41.14 | twisted | lol |
| 05:41.17 | twisted | i wanted you to test just that |
| 05:41.22 | MikeJ[Laptop] | heh |
| 05:41.24 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it works |
| 05:41.38 | twisted | try now |
| 05:41.45 | *** join/#asterisk docE (n=rquydjoq@static-71-251-95-2.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 05:41.59 | docE | Whats wrong with RFC2833? |
| 05:42.22 | twisted | docE, type /topic |
| 05:42.22 | docE | Is the bug in asterisk HEAD from about a week ago? |
| 05:46.38 | asterboy | lol...from Asterisk Sounds readme...Note: she did not, in |
| 05:46.38 | asterboy | fact, make the monkey noises. |
| 05:47.04 | marv | heh. my right monitor (that this window is in) has a bigger viewport vertically than the resolution. I actually can't see the topic. |
| 05:47.51 | twisted | marv, and who's fault is that? |
| 05:47.52 | twisted | :P |
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| 05:48.20 | marv | twisted: my wife's, for getting me such a big primary monitor ;) |
| 05:48.23 | twisted | man.. i hate it when my heat smells like it's gonna burn down the building |
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| 05:49.02 | Vco | twisted is in heat? |
| 05:49.11 | twisted | Vco, always. |
| 05:49.29 | Qwell | twisted: that note you just added... This is for option j |
| 05:49.40 | twisted | Qwell, d'oh. |
| 05:49.45 | Qwell | the line right before that is if (option-priority-jumping) |
| 05:49.51 | Qwell | or whatever it is |
| 05:50.00 | twisted | yeah... pay no attention to the man behind the curtain |
| 05:50.38 | newsmafia | Say, Anyone have any luck w/ the NEW zaptel-1.2.0 on FreeBSD 6.0? |
| 05:51.08 | asterboy | or LFS 6.2? |
| 05:51.10 | Qwell | newsmafia: some people have, but no, 6 is not supported |
| 05:51.20 | twisted | Qwell, i posted an updated note ;) |
| 05:51.32 | asterboy | ok so where is libnewt sources? |
| 05:51.43 | Qwell | SOMEBODY GET THIS MAN A REDBULL, STAT! |
| 05:51.53 | newsmafia | Qwell, Thats what I thought. Thanks! |
| 05:54.45 | asterboy | where is libnewt? |
| 05:55.50 | Qwell | what distro? |
| 05:56.24 | asterboy | no distro. |
| 05:56.36 | asterboy | LFS, LinuxFromScratch.org |
| 05:56.51 | asterboy | just want sources only...no RPM no CVS |
| 05:57.40 | asterboy | well ok...CVS if we must. |
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| 05:59.34 | asterboy | Is libnewt-perl usable for zttool? |
| 06:00.07 | asterboy | google gives a ton of libnewt-perl and buffer overflow warnings from 2002 version |
| 06:00.21 | twisted | Qwell, can you confirm that the patch in 5795 fixes the issue? |
| 06:00.44 | Qwell | yeah, gimme a sec |
| 06:01.09 | twisted | Qwell, let's go to -bugs |
| 06:01.14 | Qwell | am |
| 06:02.50 | asterboy | what the heck is libnewt? |
| 06:04.18 | asterboy | Its like this ethereal source. It sure would be nice to include this in the Asterisk source. |
| 06:06.24 | asterboy | no matches for libnewt on sf.net |
| 06:06.43 | *** join/#asterisk morale (i=russell@S010600111155e117.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 06:07.02 | kram | it's just called "newt" |
| 06:07.15 | Qwell | kramage! |
| 06:07.31 | denon | kram: how was the show? |
| 06:08.02 | kram | eh okay, kinda lightly attended |
| 06:08.06 | kram | but the coding session was fun |
| 06:08.12 | kram | whenever i got to actually sit down |
| 06:08.21 | denon | profitable? |
| 06:09.52 | kram | almost certainly not |
| 06:09.56 | denon | youch |
| 06:10.19 | kram | i observed fewer attendees than Astricon, and obviously not as focused :) |
| 06:10.20 | asterboy | Finally! |
| 06:10.23 | asterboy | http://www.partimage.org/download.en.html |
| 06:10.27 | kram | although in principle there should have been more |
| 06:10.42 | denon | kram: guess I made the right decision in skipping it .. |
| 06:10.43 | asterboy | semi graphical interface. |
| 06:10.50 | asterboy | http://www.partimage.org/deps/newt-0.50.tar.gz |
| 06:11.05 | denon | kram: was awfully tempting to go .. specially since it was snowing here and all .. :) |
| 06:11.15 | asterboy | Now how smart is that? Let's include the a copy of the source we need with our app. |
| 06:13.10 | kram | you should have just for the coding fest :) |
| 06:14.45 | denon | yeah, probably |
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| 06:15.09 | denon | in retrospect it's a good thing I didn't -- landed a pretty decent project that I don't think my office would have gotten without me |
| 06:18.53 | asterboy | Ah! Found it!!!! |
| 06:18.57 | asterboy | http://www.newt.org/ |
| 06:19.02 | asterboy | That's newt! |
| 06:20.21 | twisted | indeed it is newt |
| 06:21.02 | Dr_Ray | heh |
| 06:21.09 | twisted | kram!! |
| 06:21.22 | asterboy | now I just have to convince him to give me his library! |
| 06:21.55 | rajiv | whats a command in * that can strip a digit from ${EXTEN} and then restart the call as if the resulting number is what the user dialed? |
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| 06:24.06 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ewwww.. |
| 06:32.12 | asterboy | lol...newt...google gives me NetHack |
| 06:35.55 | asterboy | ok so Newt is RedHat's Windowing Toolkit |
| 06:36.28 | asterboy | http://www.t2-project.org/packages/newt.html |
| 06:36.36 | asterboy | T2 project has a good writeup |
| 06:37.18 | asterboy | but where is the http://devel.santafelinux.com/source/newt-0.51.6/ |
| 06:37.20 | asterboy | ??? |
| 06:42.04 | asterboy | Nice description here:http://linux.maruhn.com/sec/newt.html |
| 06:42.10 | asterboy | http://linux.maruhn.com/sec/newt.html |
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| 06:47.27 | konfuzed | kewl 1.2.0 stable as of 3 days ago. - I slept this past week |
| 06:47.31 | konfuzed | ;^) |
| 06:50.54 | asterboy | Another: http://www.develia.org/tarballs.php?l=2&f=1&p=development |
| 06:59.04 | asterboy | ok fuck newt |
| 06:59.17 | asterboy | won't compile on LFS |
| 06:59.27 | asterboy | oh well...no zttool. |
| 06:59.39 | asterboy | hmmm..maybe there is a binary around. |
| 07:00.39 | asterboy | Anyone have zttool binary they can point me to? |
| 07:02.58 | morale | its part of the zaptel drive package. |
| 07:03.07 | morale | just install it from source or your distro's package. |
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| 07:20.47 | twisted | wheeee |
| 07:24.59 | dudes_ | wee wee |
| 07:29.38 | morale | ls |
| 07:30.25 | rajiv | seems like the spa-941 is going to be a hot item |
| 07:31.55 | h3x | where where where |
| 07:32.01 | rajiv | http://voipspeak.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27 |
| 07:32.11 | h3x | oh |
| 07:32.52 | h3x | looks like they married sipura and cisco stuff together |
| 07:33.02 | dudes_ | cisco ... |
| 07:33.11 | twisted | yeah it does |
| 07:33.17 | twisted | because they practically did |
| 07:33.25 | h3x | well |
| 07:33.32 | h3x | as long as its sipura firmware |
| 07:33.43 | h3x | i like the colored led keys |
| 07:33.56 | twisted | yeah |
| 07:34.11 | twisted | they took the cisco physical appearance, and combined it with the sipura design |
| 07:34.41 | twisted | i haven't used one yet, but i want to |
| 07:36.52 | benjk | I read somewhere that officially Sipura is being absorbed into Linksys |
| 07:38.10 | benjk | which makes sense because it's not good marketing to have too many different brands and Cisco and Linksys are far more widely known |
| 07:39.05 | chapeaurouge | i set my asterisk config with nat=yes, externip, and all this good stuff. it works. ppl can call me from the outside.. but now, from within my network, i cannot check my voicemail. I see it goes into it, but i do not hear a thing. |
| 07:39.42 | benjk | chapeau: localnet=192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 |
| 07:39.46 | chapeaurouge | i did |
| 07:39.59 | benjk | sip debug then |
| 07:40.02 | chapeaurouge | ok |
| 07:40.05 | chapeaurouge | thx |
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| 07:41.29 | asterboy | morale: zttool will not compile without newt. |
| 07:42.06 | astcryz | han_zap.c:10870: warning: passing arg 1 of `pri_set_error' from incompatible pointer type |
| 07:42.09 | astcryz | chan_zap.c:10871: warning: passing arg 1 of `pri_set_message' from incompatible pointer type |
| 07:42.12 | astcryz | make[1]: *** [chan_zap.o] Error 1 |
| 07:42.16 | astcryz | anyone know how to fix that error? |
| 07:43.09 | asterboy | morale: newt seems to be more fiction than reality to asterisk. |
| 07:43.28 | *** join/#asterisk ZeroXeal (n=none@ool-44c163de.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 07:43.43 | asterboy | morale: All I want is the binary...probably won't work without libraries anyway. |
| 07:44.00 | morale | one sec. |
| 07:44.06 | morale | i'll statically link it for you if not |
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| 07:44.16 | benjk | there is no error description though, those are warnings |
| 07:44.48 | ZeroXeal | On FreeBSD-5.4-current asterisk cannot be found on the freebsd.org ftp using a package or port install, and upon downloading a version the install fails, any advice? |
| 07:45.22 | benjk | can't you build it yourself? |
| 07:46.23 | ZeroXeal | benjk was that directed towards me? |
| 07:46.30 | benjk | yes |
| 07:46.46 | ZeroXeal | ive download the latest version untared and the install fails |
| 07:46.47 | benjk | I would be surprised if asterisk didn't build out of the box on FreeBSD |
| 07:47.13 | ZeroXeal | I seem to have funky issues that are ongoing with installing in on FreeBSD |
| 07:47.28 | ZeroXeal | different boxes and versions of both the OS and asterisk as well :| |
| 07:47.31 | benjk | well, I would rather use a stable, proven version, not the latest and greatest |
| 07:47.38 | ZeroXeal | mhm |
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| 07:47.52 | benjk | I use 1.0.9 now |
| 07:48.08 | ZeroXeal | just grab the tar.gz off asterisk's webby and try again? |
| 07:48.15 | morale | i had to install libnewt for it to compile. |
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| 07:48.49 | ZeroXeal | thanks, going to try again |
| 07:48.56 | benjk | zero: sure, try and see what happens |
| 07:51.05 | ZeroXeal | do you think a 400 mhz box will handle no more than 2 calls well at a time? |
| 07:51.17 | Qwell | 400mhz should be able to handle a few |
| 07:51.23 | ZeroXeal | good :) |
| 07:51.25 | Qwell | 2 should be a breeze, even with transcoding |
| 07:51.55 | ZeroXeal | I lost a p3, mobo took 3 sticks of ram with it. HP vectras officaly are awful |
| 07:52.38 | benjk | I am running tens of calls with transcoding on an old doorstop called a PowerMac 9600 which has a 120MHz PPC from before the G3 era |
| 07:53.13 | ZeroXeal | oo hehe, then this box should work |
| 07:53.45 | benjk | I;d say for Intel CPUs anything above 300 MHz should be ok |
| 07:54.41 | ZeroXeal | its funky that ports and packages can't fetch the tar.gz |
| 07:55.05 | ZeroXeal | ive actually never successfully installed that way |
| 07:55.10 | benjk | those things are often broken |
| 07:55.15 | ZeroXeal | yea |
| 07:55.24 | benjk | imagine how many packages they have to track and upgrade for |
| 07:55.30 | ZeroXeal | yip |
| 07:55.36 | benjk | that's not a trivial thing to do |
| 07:55.52 | ZeroXeal | ugh, got an error |
| 07:56.02 | ZeroXeal | I should be using gmake, right? |
| 07:56.08 | Qwell | think so |
| 07:56.20 | ZeroXeal | strange |
| 08:16.02 | asterboy | Anyone experience VoIP spam yet? |
| 08:16.10 | twisted | aside from didx? |
| 08:16.27 | Qwell | or the guys on voip-info that do stupid crap? |
| 08:16.35 | Qwell | I'd consider that to be voip spam |
| 08:16.47 | twisted | yeah, i'm not sure yet what you mean by VoIP spam... |
| 08:17.05 | twisted | if you mean telemarketers, then say telemarketers. to them it's JAPTC |
| 08:17.13 | Qwell | japtc? |
| 08:17.19 | twisted | just another phone to call |
| 08:17.28 | Qwell | ahh |
| 08:18.03 | twisted | btw, i commited that last patch. good work tracking that down so quick :) |
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| 08:18.35 | Qwell | figured it wouldn't be hard to reproduce...fired up gdb really quick, was pretty obvious where it was happening at that point |
| 08:18.45 | twisted | yeah, that's why i wanted a backtrace |
| 08:19.05 | asterboy | ok...just reading the new features for 1.2, they mention DUNDi as a was to stop it. |
| 08:19.35 | twisted | well |
| 08:19.37 | st3v | how would I set up asterisk to conference several callers from the outside? we have 15 FXS connections and 4 FXO connections |
| 08:20.51 | Qwell | st3v: meetme |
| 08:21.11 | st3v | isn't meetme to conference internally |
| 08:21.20 | Qwell | it's to conference period |
| 08:21.29 | Vco | . <- |
| 08:21.33 | Qwell | yep |
| 08:21.40 | twisted | >.< |
| 08:21.42 | twisted | * |
| 08:21.49 | st3v | o.k. |
| 08:21.51 | Vco | it looks like you just took a crap |
| 08:21.56 | Qwell | a period conference would look kinda like... |
| 08:22.03 | Qwell | nevermind, I'm not even going to go there |
| 08:22.05 | Vco | *again* |
| 08:23.23 | twisted | <;(*)B< |
| 08:23.46 | Qwell | I don't think I want to ask what that is |
| 08:23.52 | twisted | it's the asterisk fish |
| 08:24.05 | Vco | on a sushi plate |
| 08:24.07 | Qwell | winking fish? |
| 08:24.16 | twisted | gills, |
| 08:24.25 | Qwell | lopsided gills? |
| 08:24.28 | twisted | no |
| 08:24.29 | twisted | eye, gill |
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| 08:24.39 | Qwell | it's missing an eye, and has only one gill? |
| 08:24.43 | Qwell | That's sad |
| 08:24.45 | twisted | it's the side, ninny |
| 08:24.55 | Qwell | wait, I'm confused |
| 08:25.03 | Vco | that'll end up in a Fillet-o-fish for sure then |
| 08:25.16 | Qwell | okay, the "<" is the head. the other "<" is the tail. I get the "(*)" |
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| 08:29.17 | twisted | oh |
| 08:29.18 | twisted | my |
| 08:29.19 | twisted | god |
| 08:29.20 | twisted | http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article328167.ece |
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| 08:30.12 | Qwell | wow, their ad stuff sucks...totally broken on firefox |
| 08:30.30 | Qwell | I got this little gem 8 times in a new window, all stacked on top of each other. http://www.utarget.co.uk/images%5Cutargetlogo.gif |
| 08:35.38 | djin_ib | Does anyone have experience with asterisk fixed line sms receipt? I run into some small issues. |
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| 08:39.07 | benjk | tell me more about that SMS receiving thing |
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| 08:57.15 | djin_ib | benjk, sorry walked out for a bit. |
| 08:57.48 | djin_ib | Problems is that I didn't handle incoming sms properly. No log, no stored file, etc. |
| 08:57.57 | asterboy | Help...just compiled 1.2 no prob. |
| 08:58.17 | asterboy | running asterisk gives me this: [chan_modem.so]Nov 20 01:57:18 WARNING[9458]: loader.c:325 __load_resource: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_modem.so: undefined symbol: ast_pthread_create |
| 08:59.42 | asterboy | Could be from the upgrade...leaving some modules around? |
| 09:00.16 | asterboy | contains modules that were not installed by this |
| 09:00.16 | asterboy | version of Asterisk. |
| 09:00.26 | tuxpert | do a noload on the modem stuff in modules.conf |
| 09:02.25 | asterboy | same message |
| 09:03.38 | tuxpert | comment out chan_modem.so=yes in general section |
| 09:07.49 | benjk | chan_modem has been disabled in 1.2 |
| 09:08.01 | benjk | it means it's not built by default anymore |
| 09:08.08 | asterboy | yippee! |
| 09:08.18 | benjk | your config seems to still depend on it being there |
| 09:08.31 | asterboy | Ya I did the upgrade. |
| 09:08.33 | Micc | I've got a linksys pap2na and it is having some problems with my asterisk system. I can dial out most of the time but when I pick it up when someone dials in it doesn't connect. |
| 09:08.37 | asterboy | 1.2!!! |
| 09:08.58 | benjk | asterboy: happy debugging! |
| 09:09.07 | asterboy | :-< |
| 09:09.30 | asterboy | what> |
| 09:09.34 | benjk | well, just because Digium declares something stable doesn't mean it isn't |
| 09:09.37 | Micc | Anyone gotten a linksys pap2na working with asterisk? Is there a site you can direct me to? |
| 09:09.59 | benjk | but of course some folks have to jump the gun and find the bugs ;-) |
| 09:10.30 | asterboy | I have Vonages Linksys pap...I could try it. |
| 09:10.35 | Juggie | nothing is ever stables at the first point release |
| 09:10.38 | Juggie | *stable |
| 09:10.47 | benjk | precisely |
| 09:10.49 | Juggie | 1.2.1 or 1.2.2 before i run production |
| 09:11.03 | chapeaurouge | how's AMP? |
| 09:11.08 | chapeaurouge | good? |
| 09:11.10 | Juggie | hopefully dead |
| 09:11.18 | asterboy | I can't believe the number of new features. |
| 09:11.22 | benjk | it took until 1.06 or 7 before the 1.0 branch was useable |
| 09:11.33 | Micc | asterboy, no thanks. I've heard thats a bit of a pain to get working with asterisk. Have to do stuff with tftp and stuff. |
| 09:11.51 | tuxpert | I'm using 1.2 in production w/ AMP |
| 09:12.11 | benjk | and wait until you discover the number of new bugs :-D |
| 09:12.37 | chapeaurouge | AMP dont like opera.. |
| 09:12.41 | Vco | Micc |
| 09:12.43 | asterboy | Micc: I was just going to hookup the line to see if it has the same problems on dialin. |
| 09:12.43 | tuxpert | I'm watching it closely and it's been more stable for me than 1.09 |
| 09:12.53 | Vco | Micc, what do you have canreinvite= set to? |
| 09:13.06 | Micc | Vco, I've tried yes and no. |
| 09:13.47 | Vco | device registers fine and everything, |
| 09:14.15 | Micc | yeah |
| 09:14.19 | benjk | djin_ib: how does the incoming SMS work? do you need to sign up with a service provider for that? or do you hook up your GSM? |
| 09:14.30 | asterboy | Well the upgrade wasn't hard for my complicated setup of 1 FXS and 1 FXO |
| 09:14.42 | tuxpert | chapeaurouge: AMP is just PHP...what doesn't Opera like? |
| 09:14.47 | Micc | If I do sip debug I can see that I'm getting some permissions error at some point. |
| 09:15.24 | benjk | Micc: on 1.2? |
| 09:15.35 | chapeaurouge | tuxpert, the hover pop-up never go away, and end up all over the page. |
| 09:15.49 | Micc | benk: 1.2 beta |
| 09:15.50 | benjk | there have been a number of people here who had difficulties with incoming SIP calls after they upgraded to 1.2 |
| 09:16.39 | benjk | the same configs worked just fine when going back to 1.0.9 |
| 09:16.54 | Micc | benjk, thats funny. Anyone found the problem yet? |
| 09:17.02 | benjk | there have been a lot of changes to chan_sip |
| 09:17.02 | tuxpert | chapeaurouge: interesting. I use Firefox and haven't had that kind of problem. Wonder if it's Opera or AMP?? |
| 09:17.12 | Micc | Vco, canreinvite should be set to no, correct? |
| 09:17.16 | chapeaurouge | tuxpert, prolly bad coding ;) |
| 09:17.17 | benjk | it's not one problem |
| 09:17.26 | benjk | no, its the opposite I think |
| 09:17.45 | benjk | they have been cleaning up chan_sip and make it more compliant with the RFCs |
| 09:17.52 | chapeaurouge | tuxpert, opera usually respects all standards better than others, that's why it usually breaks on stuff |
| 09:18.16 | asterboy | opera the browser? |
| 09:18.18 | benjk | in some cases this will cause certain things to break |
| 09:18.41 | Micc | benjk, so who is heading up the cleanup of chan_sip? |
| 09:18.47 | chapeaurouge | asterboy, yes |
| 09:18.59 | benjk | oej I presume |
| 09:19.27 | asterboy | huh...I remeber it a while back. I thought it was crap...maybe its better now? |
| 09:19.34 | benjk | djin_ib, are you still here? |
| 09:20.38 | djin_ib | benjk, yes. sorry. |
| 09:21.16 | djin_ib | benjk, I found out that the provider delivers the sms in text-to-speech instead of data. |
| 09:21.20 | benjk | djin_ib, I asked you how the receiving of SMS worked, what prerequisites are needed |
| 09:22.15 | benjk | so you have to sign up with a provider who will issue an SMS numder to you and then passes incoming messages as voice files to you? |
| 09:22.22 | chapeaurouge | damn.. can't seem to be able to generate the right md5secret... |
| 09:22.40 | djin_ib | benjk, There are only two prerequisities. 1. have callerid 2. be able to receive them. |
| 09:23.15 | djin_ib | Service is provided by local provider when sms is sent to my fixed phone number. |
| 09:23.17 | benjk | but do you need to hook up a GSM phone to your asterisk server? |
| 09:23.22 | djin_ib | nope |
| 09:24.13 | benjk | OK, so youre GSM phone company is providing you with an SMS-over-voicemail service |
| 09:24.23 | djin_ib | benjk, what I need to figure out if I must registered or something to stop receiving the voice. |
| 09:24.35 | djin_ib | benjk, no GSM involved. |
| 09:25.14 | benjk | what I would like to know is whether I can setup a facility where any ordinary GSM phone could send and SMS directly to my Asterisk server |
| 09:26.08 | djin_ib | benjk, you just want to connect you gsm with you Asterisk server? |
| 09:26.18 | benjk | well, that's the problem |
| 09:26.29 | benjk | we don't have GSM |
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| 09:26.46 | djin_ib | ah, ok. |
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| 09:27.15 | benjk | cause the friggin Japanese government decided that they must lock out foreign vendors from their cellphone market |
| 09:27.36 | benjk | nobody in Japan has ever heard of Nokia |
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| 09:28.08 | chapeaurouge | is the way to gen md5secret like this: echo -n " fred : asterisk : passwd " | md5sum ? |
| 09:28.18 | chapeaurouge | with the spaces? |
| 09:29.01 | benjk | I was looking into Kannel but the question then is where you you connect your Kannel server to? |
| 09:30.09 | djin_ib | benjk, I can understand your problem. |
| 09:30.28 | benjk | you need an interconnect agreement with some GSM provider or an SMS gateway provider to connect your own SMS gateway |
| 09:31.21 | benjk | that's not easy to get and will cost $$$ |
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| 09:32.06 | asterboy | night guys...thanks for the help! |
| 09:33.32 | benjk | djin_ib, does this provider also offer a service where you could get the incoming SMS by email instead of voicemail? |
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| 09:37.06 | benjk | or by DTMF perhaps |
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| 09:39.41 | djin_ib | benjk, it should work, but I'm struggling with it :) |
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| 09:41.09 | _CRC_ | anyone know much about the enumlookup function? |
| 09:42.12 | _CRC_ | seems to keep spitting: |
| 09:42.13 | _CRC_ | Nov 20 20:37:19 WARNING[9148]: app_enumlookup.c:99 enumlookup_exec: The application EnumLookup is deprecated. Please use the ENUMLOOKUP() function instead. |
| 09:42.38 | _CRC_ | yet I'm unable to find any details on said enumlookup function :| |
| 09:44.35 | _CRC_ | I'm calling it via: exten => _X.,1,ENUMLOOKUP(+${EXTEN}) |
| 09:44.37 | endre | look into the source, luke |
| 09:45.59 | _CRC_ | I would, but it explains SFA. |
| 09:50.13 | _CRC_ | basically, it's set up to dial the $ENUM on step 2, and fallback to a PSTN call in 1+101 |
| 09:50.20 | _CRC_ | which is nice. |
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| 09:53.06 | benjk | djin_ib: do you have a URL for that provider? |
| 09:56.42 | benjk | How do you sign up for this VoIPBuster thing if you don't have Windows? |
| 09:56.45 | djin_ib | benjk, it's nothing special. Just KPN, here in The Netherlands. Check out http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Sms for other providers offering landline sms. |
| 09:57.15 | benjk | djin_ib, do you have to be local? or can anyone sign up? |
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| 10:04.48 | benjk | I see, you need to have a landline in Europe |
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| 10:06.18 | benjk | It will probably another 10 years before we get this over here in Japan |
| 10:06.43 | benjk | Japan is always behind on telphone technology |
| 10:07.23 | benjk | with the exception of silly games running on silly toy phones |
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| 10:10.51 | chapeaurouge | what's a softphone i can use other than linphone on linux? |
| 10:13.01 | benjk | chapeau: there are tons, check out the VoIP Wiki for a list |
| 10:13.07 | chapeaurouge | k |
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| 10:14.26 | benjk | anybody using this VoIP Buster thing? |
| 10:17.18 | djin_ib | benjk, you need a local line for this. |
| 10:17.26 | djin_ib | sms, I mean |
| 10:19.31 | benjk | Yeah, I gathered that :-( |
| 10:20.00 | benjk | no such service in Japan which is where my Asterisk box is |
| 10:21.26 | benjk | I want to set up a free roaming facility for myself |
| 10:21.48 | chapeaurouge | gizmo works ... except the dialpad... asterisk wont take them into account. |
| 10:21.49 | chapeaurouge | :\ |
| 10:22.11 | benjk | cause I am often overseas and use a local prepaid GSM SIM card wherever I go |
| 10:23.06 | benjk | If I could send an SMS to my Asterisk box, I could let it forward incoming calls to the local prepaid and avoid $$$$ roaming charges |
| 10:23.51 | llirk | SPA-3000 the best unit to play around with asterisk integration? |
| 10:24.05 | benjk | certainly not |
| 10:24.19 | djin_ib | benjk, that is a nice idea indeed. |
| 10:24.21 | benjk | Grandstream HT-488 is way better |
| 10:24.48 | llirk | benjk, yeah? |
| 10:25.13 | benjk | djin_ib, it's a poor man's version of a technology on which I spent some five years of hard work and hold patents for |
| 10:25.27 | djin_ib | benjk, why don't you set up a small IVR menu for that. Call you * from the GSM, type code and presto! |
| 10:25.50 | benjk | http://www.zebraroaming.com -- roaming at local rates without any roaming charges |
| 10:26.29 | benjk | dijn_ib: many of the places I visit, you cant call international from a prepaid GSM |
| 10:26.53 | djin_ib | ah, ok. |
| 10:27.35 | benjk | so I always have to find an internet cafe to get to my asterisk box and set the forwarding manually |
| 10:28.38 | benjk | what I would like to do is, send an SMS as soon as I get out of the airplane and trigger the forwarding instantly |
| 10:29.05 | benjk | then also send SMS to get asterisk to call me back and connect me where I want |
| 10:30.19 | djin_ib | I understand. You said international calls aren't always possible, but international sms usually is? |
| 10:31.22 | benjk | SMS is just SMS, it would take effort to filter out SMS that go off-net |
| 10:32.06 | djin_ib | true. |
| 10:33.19 | djin_ib | One possible solution is that one I've this running, I'll integrate it in a large free UM service here in NL and you'll receive the incoming sms by mail. |
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| 10:33.36 | benjk | the Zebra system I designed would instantly issue you with a local prepaid (or credit card covered postpaid) account when you switch on your mobile in the foreign network - no need to buy a local SIM |
| 10:34.21 | djin_ib | Hmmm, sounds interesting. I just bookmarked the site for now, but I'll read is soon. |
| 10:34.30 | djin_ib | is=it |
| 10:34.50 | benjk | and it would then trigger call forwarding, SMS forwarding, voicemail forwarding (over IP) in your home network, or alter your greeting so that it announces the local prepaid number |
| 10:35.34 | benjk | all depending on your preferences and the level of support in the home network |
| 10:37.29 | benjk | The folks I signed up with for a joint venture to do this weren't the right partners though. We had an agreement with VodaFone to do a pilot between Voda Australia and Voda New Zealand, but my Aussie partners blew it |
| 10:38.42 | djin_ib | Hmmm, sounds bad. |
| 10:38.59 | benjk | then we ran out of money and that was after the internet bust in 2000, so I'll have to find DIY methods to do something similar, initially for myself, but also as a demo to get the ball rolling again for Zebra |
| 10:39.11 | djin_ib | Not sure if Mobile Providers are that anxious to lose roaming income. |
| 10:39.20 | benjk | but they won't |
| 10:39.36 | benjk | they will gain roaming income |
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| 10:44.48 | pb_ | can anybody recommend a 1-port fxo-to-ethernet adapter? Should I get something like an SPA-3000 and just ignore the fxs port, or is there a better option? |
| 10:45.56 | benjk | pb: Grnadstream HT-488 |
| 10:46.07 | pb_ | benjk: thanks |
| 10:47.11 | benjk | dijn_ib: The EU has an antitrust case running against all major European GSM providers for overcharging on roaming |
| 10:48.09 | benjk | the trouble is that roaming charges have more to do with a totally braindead design that causes cost to spiral out of control |
| 10:48.16 | djin_ib | benjk, yes, but we all know how much impact something like that could have (Microsoft ?!?) |
| 10:48.29 | benjk | not in the EU though |
| 10:48.44 | benjk | and I know the roaming managers of major telcos there |
| 10:48.56 | benjk | they are seriously scared of the antitrust case |
| 10:49.22 | djin_ib | Ok, you're probably better informed on this. |
| 10:49.39 | benjk | The providers say that roaming is expensive because the technology for roaming is is expensive, which is true |
| 10:50.37 | benjk | roamers are being treated totally separate from all other subscribers and since there are fewer roamers than locals, the cost for the roaming infrastructure has to be shouldered by those few who use it |
| 10:51.40 | benjk | and the way this is set up at the moment all providers have to share the revenue with the network a roamer comes from and with the clearinghouse that handles the roaming clearing |
| 10:52.12 | djin_ib | Ah, ok. Personally I'm more interesting in VoIP over WiFi/UMTS to be trully independant. |
| 10:52.59 | benjk | sure, but thats still a long way into the future before this becomes ubiquitous |
| 10:55.43 | benjk | plus, those service providers didn;t learn the lesson from GSM |
| 10:56.20 | benjk | they are trying to replicate the nonseniscal clearinghouse system for WiFi roaming, which will drive cost up exorbitantly |
| 10:57.28 | djin_ib | Well that's the problem with providers who think in minutes instead of data, if you ask me. |
| 10:57.50 | benjk | they think neither in minutes nor in data |
| 10:58.02 | benjk | the trouble is they think like Skype |
| 10:58.43 | benjk | they want to OWN their customers for everything that customer does anywhere and anytime |
| 10:59.02 | djin_ib | Ah, true. |
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| 10:59.52 | benjk | the basic idea behind Zebra applies not only to GSM |
| 11:00.33 | djin_ib | This sms is starting to [censored] off. |
| 11:00.36 | benjk | which is, that those providers which actually provide a service should be the only ones to charge for that service and nobody else should take any cut |
| 11:02.51 | benjk | so if you walk into a coffee shop some place and hook up your WiFi phone, then for outbound service, however it is going to be charged, should be paid for to the coffee shop and nobody else |
| 11:03.21 | benjk | it shouldn't matter where you came from |
| 11:04.10 | benjk | imagine you go to Paris and sit down for dinner in some restaurant there |
| 11:04.21 | benjk | and they ask you where you usually have lunch |
| 11:04.32 | benjk | you say McDonalds in Amsterdam |
| 11:04.45 | iDunno | is anyone likely to say that?! |
| 11:05.22 | benjk | then they give you a menu with three times the price of a local Frenchman because they have to sent part of their income from you to McDonalds in Amsterdam |
| 11:07.00 | benjk | iDunno: it doesn't matter whether its McDo or some other place, what matters is that they would consider you to be OWNED by your usual lunch or dining hangout |
| 11:08.03 | iDunno | uh huh |
| 11:08.05 | benjk | That example may sound silly and it is silly, but that is how GSM roaming works and this is the model which providers aim to replicate for WiFi roaming |
| 11:08.27 | chapeaurouge | why is my own peer suddenly showing with my firewall IP address... wtf. |
| 11:08.32 | iDunno | yup - we need a global network that doesn't charge for roaming |
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| 11:08.58 | iDunno | where all the calls cost the same, and where signal isn't a problem, ever. |
| 11:09.23 | djin_ib | benjk, that's true. |
| 11:09.27 | Timoti | Hi everybody... are there anyone who has VEGASTREAM products here ? |
| 11:09.29 | benjk | iDunno: we need a framwework where all networks agree that incoming customers are owned by the local network they visit for the time they visit |
| 11:09.32 | iDunno | and data is charged on a fixed flat rate ;) |
| 11:09.48 | Timoti | I really need to find someone who has VEGASTREAM products |
| 11:10.18 | benjk | iDunno: that sounds too much like communism to me |
| 11:10.56 | benjk | let different networks compete with each other on the basis of different prices and different charging models |
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| 11:11.17 | chapeaurouge | is anyone feeling like giving me a call, to see if shite works? :) |
| 11:11.39 | benjk | but make them to accept that they only own customers for as long as those customers choose to use their network and not beyond |
| 11:11.42 | djin_ib | benjk, how would a local provider charge that 'foreign' consumer? |
| 11:12.14 | benjk | dijn_ib: how does a local hotel or restaurant charge that foreign guest? |
| 11:12.51 | djin_ib | It's a bit harder for a location independent service like mobile phones. |
| 11:12.54 | benjk | the travel/hotel/restaurant industry has been around for ages and they have a perfectly sound method for charging guests |
| 11:13.13 | benjk | its not hard at all |
| 11:13.24 | djin_ib | You think about charging a prepaid fee for usage once they arrive, or something? |
| 11:13.30 | benjk | I have designed a system that does it |
| 11:14.01 | benjk | it creates a local prepaid account on the fly for every visitor |
| 11:14.12 | djin_ib | Ah, ok. |
| 11:14.25 | benjk | of course the account balance would be zero at that moment |
| 11:14.34 | djin_ib | It sound reasonable to all parties. |
| 11:14.45 | benjk | but a welcome SMS informs the guest how to establish credit |
| 11:16.03 | benjk | and for those who don't want prepaid, they can register their credit card once at a service centre and enter a preference "I want a local postpaid account wherever it is available and I pay with this card, if a deposit is required I authorize deposits of up to X $" |
| 11:16.32 | djin_ib | Even my parents would understand such a system :) |
| 11:16.50 | benjk | now all outgoing calls are owned exclusively by the local network |
| 11:17.08 | benjk | and all incoming calls to the local number as well |
| 11:17.40 | benjk | but all forwarding services are owned by the home network that forwards |
| 11:17.40 | djin_ib | Hmm, I don't quite see that last part |
| 11:18.11 | djin_ib | Your plan is to issue a local (foreign) number on the spot? |
| 11:18.20 | benjk | dijn_ib: mobile phone companies get paid for incoming calls by the peering networks which deliver these calls to them |
| 11:18.29 | djin_ib | ye |
| 11:18.30 | djin_ib | s |
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| 11:19.01 | benjk | yes, every visitor will get a temporary local prepaid number from a reusable number pool |
| 11:19.35 | Timoti | does anybody can tell me how to know whether my asterisk support H323 or not ? |
| 11:19.36 | benjk | and networks have the option to sell those numbers to those visitors which frequently visit and want to keep their number alive |
| 11:20.03 | benjk | Tim: help H323 on the CLI |
| 11:20.38 | Timoti | let me check |
| 11:21.07 | djin_ib | benjk, and if someone calls the local mobile number where the call get routed to the cell phone abroad? |
| 11:22.16 | benjk | If somebody calls your MSISDN (your regular mobile number back in your home country) there are three different scenarios |
| 11:23.04 | benjk | 1) the call goes to voicemail, where the automatically altered greeting will tell the caller the temporary number overseas |
| 11:23.37 | Timoti | It is saying No help topics for H323 |
| 11:23.43 | Timoti | :-( |
| 11:23.50 | Timoti | how can I install it ! |
| 11:24.20 | benjk | 2) the call is forwarded to your temporary number overseas at international calling rates |
| 11:24.54 | benjk | 3) the call is delivered to you using the traditional roaming system at $$$ roaming charges |
| 11:25.03 | benjk | your choice |
| 11:25.15 | benjk | Tim: if its not there then you don't have it |
| 11:25.34 | djin_ib | Im scenario 2 and 3, the owner of the phone gets charged for the forward? |
| 11:25.58 | benjk | H323 is a bit of a pain and there are at least two (if not 3) different ways/packages to add it |
| 11:26.26 | benjk | dijn_ib: yes, you get charged in the home network for the forwards |
| 11:26.54 | benjk | Which means that the majority of roamers (80%) will use #1 |
| 11:27.16 | Timoti | :-( how can I do it ( install H323 ) as newbei |
| 11:27.18 | benjk | average-joe business folks will choose #2 |
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| 11:27.35 | benjk | and only the top flight CEO types will remain to use #3 |
| 11:27.51 | djin_ib | I think the keyword here is 'reasonable costs'. |
| 11:27.52 | Timoti | well I have 48 port FXS vegastream but comes with H323... so I want to use it with asterisk |
| 11:28.16 | benjk | Tim: ask them for SIP firmware or return it and buy a SIP capable gateway |
| 11:28.31 | benjk | H323 is not for newbies |
| 11:28.54 | benjk | it;s a big telco protocol for big telco engineers |
| 11:29.08 | Timoti | i bought it used ... and they ( vegastream) are IDOTS ... they do not send me SIP firmware they do not support me at all |
| 11:29.16 | twisted | benjk, rofl :) |
| 11:29.33 | twisted | benjk, it's also dying a slow and painful death at the hands of SIP ;) |
| 11:29.39 | benjk | but if you are into sado/maso then you can start with the Voip Wiki |
| 11:30.32 | Timoti | does any of you know anyone who has Vegastream products .. ? |
| 11:30.59 | Timoti | if I could login their web assist page I can get the firmware but I do no have those infos |
| 11:31.09 | benjk | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+H323+channels |
| 11:31.33 | benjk | If there is SIP firmware for it, don't use H323 |
| 11:31.53 | Timoti | yes but they don't send me SIP firmware |
| 11:32.01 | benjk | twisted: I'll be happy to give the funeral speech ;-) |
| 11:32.08 | djin_ib | Timoti, why not? |
| 11:32.47 | Timoti | they are saying that if I bought this product from non of their retail seller or distributor .. they don't support me at all |
| 11:33.10 | benjk | Tim: which country are you in? |
| 11:33.18 | Timoti | and also they are very rude at their emails |
| 11:33.24 | Timoti | I am now in turkey |
| 11:33.30 | benjk | unless you are in some banana republic, that's illegal |
| 11:34.10 | Timoti | if they sell the products to turkey .. how come they don't support |
| 11:34.14 | benjk | And where did you buy it? |
| 11:34.23 | Timoti | from England |
| 11:34.42 | benjk | and the company you biught it from doesn't give you support? |
| 11:35.05 | Timoti | I bought it from second hand electronic dealer |
| 11:35.18 | Timoti | so they even dont have any idea about this products |
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| 11:35.38 | benjk | but do they know where the product was originally purchased from? |
| 11:36.02 | Timoti | I did not ask it ... but I don't think that they would help me about that |
| 11:36.08 | benjk | all you need to find out is which reseller sold this box to the first owner |
| 11:36.25 | Timoti | products is nice with 48 ports FXS and 2 ports FXO |
| 11:36.32 | benjk | that Vegastream company are they in the EU? |
| 11:36.32 | Timoti | but comes only with H323 |
| 11:36.51 | Timoti | yes in England |
| 11:37.14 | benjk | Are you resident in Turkey or in the UK? |
| 11:37.27 | Timoti | at the newer firmwares you can choice SIP or H323 |
| 11:37.41 | Timoti | I am living in germany |
| 11:38.20 | benjk | OK, then you should complain to the DTI and copy the complain to Vegastream c/o Legal Department |
| 11:38.33 | benjk | DTI = Department of Trade & Industry |
| 11:38.35 | Timoti | really ... what is DTI |
| 11:38.37 | Timoti | ohh ok |
| 11:38.43 | Timoti | ok I will do that |
| 11:39.03 | Timoti | should I send email or letter |
| 11:39.13 | benjk | Any EU manufacturer has to support their products, regardless of which way the product was purchased |
| 11:39.19 | benjk | Letter is better |
| 11:39.59 | Timoti | himm .. let me try email first .. if it won't work .. I will write letter |
| 11:40.07 | benjk | try to find the EU directive that regulates support by manufacturers in the EU |
| 11:40.15 | Timoti | but first I should find where to complain them |
| 11:40.53 | benjk | http://www.dti.gov.uk/ |
| 11:41.16 | Timoti | benjk ... many thanks .. great |
| 11:41.51 | Timoti | let me formulate and email first .. they send them with CC to vegastream |
| 11:41.56 | Timoti | and see what will happen |
| 11:42.23 | benjk | you may want to give them a call first to find out about who to contact |
| 11:42.24 | benjk | 020 7215 5000 |
| 11:42.31 | benjk | +44 020 7215 5000 |
| 11:42.42 | benjk | er no, skip the leading 0 |
| 11:43.18 | Timoti | ok ... let me call them monday morning .. and they get some info |
| 11:43.42 | benjk | Now, Vegastream MAY be allowed to charge you for the SIP firmware "upgrade" |
| 11:44.10 | Timoti | well if they would offer that .. I would be happy .. but they just refused me |
| 11:44.19 | benjk | they are not obliged to give you the firmware if they dont' give it free to anybody else either |
| 11:44.56 | Timoti | Yes I red that .. |
| 11:44.59 | benjk | however, they have to extend you the same rights that other customers get |
| 11:46.02 | benjk | so if their policy is that out of warranty equipment can onbly receive an upgrade against payment and yours is out of warrenty, then you will have the right to purchase that firmware |
| 11:47.10 | Timoti | I wrote them and emails 3 times .. and call their office 5 times .. even I called sweden and USA offices .. but no luck .. but offices are much more better than headquarter .. headquarter was rude |
| 11:47.25 | benjk | however, it casts serious doubt about a manufacturer if they are treating customers in this way. |
| 11:47.36 | benjk | better stay way from they products I suppose |
| 11:47.37 | Timoti | many thanks to all .. I will do all those recommendation on monday |
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| 11:48.18 | Timoti | well I also would not recommended to buy their new products too |
| 11:48.30 | Timoti | for the future you might have difficulties |
| 11:48.40 | Dr_Ray | I would throw my dollars with companies who will not treat you poorly |
| 11:48.54 | Timoti | yes |
| 11:48.58 | trixter | throw other peoples dollars, its cheaper |
| 11:49.06 | Timoti | :-) |
| 11:49.15 | Dr_Ray | oh, yeah, I'm happy to throw bossman's dollars at cisco |
| 11:49.51 | trixter | course smaller providers have sometimes better 'options' which may or may not be morally acceptable.. such as kickbacks |
| 11:49.56 | Timoti | let me go and read DTI compain Procedure |
| 11:50.12 | Timoti | many thanks to all |
| 11:50.16 | Timoti | have a good day |
| 11:50.17 | Timoti | byee |
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| 12:24.01 | benjk | I am still looking to find somebody who can tell me something about VoIP Busters |
| 12:24.13 | trixter | what do you want to know? |
| 12:24.32 | benjk | How do I sign up for an account if I donw; have Windows |
| 12:24.41 | trixter | you dont |
| 12:24.47 | benjk | s/donw;/don't |
| 12:24.50 | trixter | the app might run in wine |
| 12:24.53 | trixter | I havent tried |
| 12:25.09 | benjk | WINE is too much tropuble to set up |
| 12:25.25 | benjk | plus all my Linux boxes are configured without X11 |
| 12:26.06 | benjk | damn, I have to go to Kinkos just to sign up |
| 12:26.20 | trixter | looks like it |
| 12:26.38 | trixter | or you can wait and get more coverage |
| 12:26.40 | trixter | www.trxtel.com |
| 12:26.43 | trixter | :) |
| 12:27.33 | benjk | Always happy to get any kind of free services, but I am looking to set up something in the next week or so |
| 12:27.58 | trixter | that was the original plan with trxtel but then other stuff came up :P |
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| 12:28.19 | trixter | plus I dont have the faster servers yet, and service wont be that great off what I do have |
| 12:28.53 | benjk | I am completing a new Asterisk installation package for OSX and I would like to include something which people can use right away, even if it has limitations |
| 12:28.55 | trixter | but meh its donated system and bandwidth so I cant complain that much.. :) |
| 12:32.02 | jcath | hi, friends, to build an embedded linux based asterisk pbx, what is the performance requirement of the hardware? about 16 fxs and 4 fxo, I want to build with some embedded processor or soc |
| 12:33.18 | trixter | how do you lan on putting that many ports in the 24 port card? or multiple 4 ports? |
| 12:33.34 | benjk | Gotta have a Mac for that |
| 12:33.47 | benjk | can't do it with Intel mobos |
| 12:34.00 | benjk | not without interrupt hell |
| 12:34.24 | trixter | there is a single 24 port card why wont that work with an intel based board? |
| 12:34.26 | benjk | Get a PowerMac 9600 vintage 1997/1998 |
| 12:34.33 | benjk | that has five PCI slots |
| 12:35.02 | benjk | need to upgrade the CPU to something with more oomph though |
| 12:35.35 | jcath | trixter, r u talking with me? or to benjk? |
| 12:35.48 | trixter | originally to you finally to nemjk |
| 12:35.48 | benjk | the 24 port card could do, yes, but is that shipping already? |
| 12:36.07 | trixter | I wanted to know if you planned on getting multiple 4 port analog cards or the newer 24 port card |
| 12:36.15 | trixter | I thought it finally was |
| 12:36.19 | trixter | I havent checked though |
| 12:36.22 | benjk | I see |
| 12:36.32 | benjk | I thought it was still "coming soon" |
| 12:36.43 | jcath | I just think to design all the hardware board myself |
| 12:37.24 | benjk | the PCI card you want to design yourself? |
| 12:37.29 | jcath | and why not intel's box, because it needs fan to cool down the processor, but I want more stability, better with fanless box |
| 12:37.41 | jcath | yes, benjk |
| 12:37.44 | trixter | it isnt listed on their hardware section so maybe it isnt shipping |
| 12:37.55 | trixter | it may be like their DS3 card which has been 'coming soon' for a little while now :( |
| 12:38.08 | benjk | jcatch: Pretty much all Intel mobos have trouble with interrupts when you put more than two telephony board sin them |
| 12:38.11 | jcath | after I read some spec, the fxo seems to be pci bridge plus some DAAs |
| 12:38.34 | trixter | what do you plan on doing with the analog ports? transcoding to voip? |
| 12:38.45 | jcath | yes |
| 12:38.48 | trixter | or just effectively pushing bits to the FXO ports? |
| 12:39.01 | trixter | which codec is the one you were primarily thinking about using? |
| 12:39.02 | benjk | why not get a T1 or E1 with that many ports |
| 12:39.19 | trixter | it may be to replace an existing system |
| 12:39.25 | trixter | at which point it may not be a possiblity |
| 12:39.26 | jcath | I want to build a box focus on small office usage |
| 12:39.36 | jcath | so, t1 or e1 is not needed |
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| 12:39.41 | benjk | 24 ports? wmall office use? |
| 12:39.54 | benjk | small office use would be 2or 3 ports |
| 12:39.55 | trixter | 4 fxo |
| 12:39.56 | jcath | 16 fxs ports |
| 12:40.03 | benjk | why FXS? |
| 12:40.14 | benjk | use IP phones and save the FXS ports |
| 12:40.22 | jcath | ok, what I mean is: 16 internal analog lines, 4 external analog lines |
| 12:40.24 | trixter | that may not always be an option |
| 12:40.44 | trixter | or rather not the best option |
| 12:40.51 | benjk | yes, that's why I say, skip the internal analog lines and use IP phones on your LAN |
| 12:40.53 | Druken | wait for the new 2400 :) |
| 12:41.12 | benjk | analog phones suck ballz |
| 12:41.18 | jcath | yeah, maybe it does not need so many internal analog lines |
| 12:41.32 | trixter | yeah especially for faxes!!! all faxes should use a 2-8kbps codec! |
| 12:41.42 | chapeaurouge | 2400 will be shipping on Dec 1st :) |
| 12:41.47 | benjk | for all practical purposes IP phones run rings around analog phones |
| 12:41.48 | Druken | benjk: that may be true... but the average joe can use an analog phone |
| 12:41.56 | jcath | but have to offer some, 4 or 8? |
| 12:42.04 | benjk | the average joe can use an IP phone too |
| 12:42.22 | trixter | what if they already have analog phones? |
| 12:42.34 | benjk | if you need a simple phone without any features, those exist as IP phones too |
| 12:42.35 | trixter | they dont suck if they already exist where this would be installed becuase they would be effectively free |
| 12:42.41 | jcath | so, with ip phone client, the voice codec is working on client side, right? |
| 12:42.43 | trixter | where a decent voip phone is gonna be $80+ |
| 12:42.48 | benjk | no they are not free |
| 12:43.01 | benjk | they cost more on the side of the server |
| 12:43.17 | jcath | but with fxs ports, voice codec work on the pbx box, so it require some processor computing to do the voice algorithm, right? |
| 12:43.42 | benjk | jcatch: not a client (not in the sense of a software phone), but a real hardware IP phone |
| 12:43.59 | trixter | a reasonable voip phone is more expensive than the modules |
| 12:44.04 | trixter | just double checked on that :P |
| 12:44.13 | benjk | negligible |
| 12:44.14 | syle | telecoms are competing now |
| 12:44.22 | trixter | if you convert media the server has to transcode |
| 12:44.24 | Druken | benjk: well, i look at things like this... i can use ip phones which are $100 min. or analong phones, (which i already own) and i can put two online for $60 |
| 12:44.28 | jcath | a hardware ip phone is more expensive than a analog phone + 1 fxs port, or not? |
| 12:44.36 | trixter | analog lines to voip requires more cpu than analog to analog.. |
| 12:44.40 | syle | 15 dollars a month here now unlimited US/CANADA dialing |
| 12:44.46 | benjk | plus you have to have a better server for that many zaptel ports |
| 12:45.00 | benjk | that adds cost as well |
| 12:45.11 | Druken | syle: 15 bux? from who ? |
| 12:45.15 | benjk | and you get less features/functionality |
| 12:45.24 | jcath | with fxs ports, the pbx box's processor have to do the voice codec computing, is it? |
| 12:45.24 | benjk | more cumbersome operation |
| 12:45.33 | trixter | benjk: features.conf you can get pretty creative in terms of features |
| 12:45.39 | syle | MTS |
| 12:45.42 | benjk | like transfer requires remembring DTMF sequences |
| 12:45.59 | trixter | jcath: it depends.. if it converts from one codec to another, yes .. if it converts from one media type to another, yes |
| 12:46.04 | benjk | as opposed to programmable buttons and display etc |
| 12:46.24 | trixter | or those pesky speed dial buttons and a sticker marked 'transfer' |
| 12:46.39 | jcath | ok, i c, trixter |
| 12:46.42 | syle | and thats 15 dollars CDN :) |
| 12:46.57 | trixter | oh so that is what $3.50 american? :P |
| 12:47.14 | benjk | in any event, all I am saying is that the little extra cost for a hardware IP phone is worth it, every penny of it |
| 12:47.15 | jcath | so, what I want to know is: for example, to concurrently support 16 fxs ports, what processor performance required? |
| 12:47.17 | syle | dividing by 1.3 is usually safe |
| 12:47.26 | trixter | but not as much fun |
| 12:48.03 | Druken | MTS.... why do i know that..... |
| 12:48.22 | benjk | jcath: nobody knows that yet because the 24 port card isn';t shipping yet |
| 12:48.24 | trixter | benjk: maybe, maybe not. There are wiring costs, there are amdinistrative costs, there are other issues what if you are deploying into a heavily congested local network as it is? it would then be prefered to make a 2nd network for the voice traffic to avoid poor call quality |
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| 12:48.41 | trixter | it can get very expensive depending on more factors than what might exist in a clean sterile lab |
| 12:49.44 | benjk | a lan cable can be pulled through existing cable channels, you can use the analog phone wire to pull it through |
| 12:50.26 | benjk | unless you have hundreds of phones to replace, you should go IP phones right away |
| 12:50.28 | jcath | trixter, as a hardware ip phone, do you know if arm7 is power enough to do these popular voice codec? |
| 12:51.19 | benjk | it's like you want to move from horse carts to automobiles in your taxi fleet but you don't want to get rid of the horses |
| 12:51.48 | benjk | if you go for a new IP-PBX, budget for the IP phones |
| 12:53.44 | trixter | benjk: someone has to pull the wire, that can be costly.. average fee to get wire pulled in this area is $90-120/hr |
| 12:53.53 | jcath | I am thinking about wifi ip phone ... |
| 12:54.05 | trixter | wifi is half duplex count that in when you do capacity testing |
| 12:54.20 | trixter | jcath: which codec? |
| 12:54.30 | trixter | I run speex, gsm and ulaw on my ipaq just fine |
| 12:54.54 | jcath | any popular codec, like speex gsm or ulaw , alaw |
| 12:55.12 | jcath | ipaq equipped with 200Mhz strongarm or above |
| 12:55.22 | benjk | I gues you must be in the US |
| 12:56.29 | benjk | for this is another place where stoneage telephony technology appears to persist |
| 12:56.37 | jcath | yes, trixter, I know, the signal quality get worse when the distance get long, with wifi |
| 12:56.49 | trixter | I have a 400 MHz ipaq |
| 12:56.54 | trixter | h5500 |
| 12:57.07 | trixter | it can run 2 channels no problem, odds are I can run more I just never tried |
| 12:57.49 | jcath | trixter, what sip software you run on ipaq? |
| 12:57.56 | trixter | benjk: not everyone has unlimited money in their budget.. some people need a pbx but cant afford to do it the wyq they wnat.. |
| 12:58.09 | trixter | That is why cars like the yugo sold, people couldnt afford the car they wanted but they needed something |
| 12:58.13 | benjk | that's folly |
| 12:58.19 | trixter | kia has now taken that same approach |
| 12:58.22 | trixter | no its reality |
| 12:58.33 | trixter | most people dont have enough money to do everything the way they want to |
| 12:58.49 | trixter | I want to own my own space station, I dont have the money, so I have to make due with what I can afford |
| 12:58.56 | benjk | people think they are saving money but in reality they are only spreading their spending elsewhere to get the illusion it was cheaper when it really wasnt |
| 12:59.30 | trixter | its common in business to spend less today even at the cost of effectively financing some into the future just so they can pay all their bills today and keep their doors open |
| 12:59.52 | trixter | the whole credit system is based upon that principle, and credit is a powerful business tool |
| 13:00.05 | trixter | yeah it costs more but without loans many businesses wouldnt even exist |
| 13:00.33 | benjk | the trouble with that is that they end up spending more well ahead of when they thought they would because there are usually unforessen follow on costs with keeping legacy crap around |
| 13:00.54 | trixter | and to be honest if you are trying to sell something to someone you can offer a wide range of products but if you tell people that you refuse to support what they can afford they will just go elsewhere, which isnt that good from your point of view |
| 13:01.00 | benjk | IP phones dont; cost more |
| 13:01.11 | jcath | hey, trixter, please tell me what ip phone software on your ipaq, I want to have a try, thanks:) |
| 13:01.18 | benjk | not significantly |
| 13:01.27 | trixter | there are a lot of hidden costs with upgrading to voip that most people dont think about.. Lets take a company that has *no* computers as it is |
| 13:01.34 | trixter | they have phone wires but *no* network wires |
| 13:01.56 | trixter | voip will be a lot more expensive because you either have to go wireless, and wireless sip phones arent the cheapest on the market or you have to run wire |
| 13:02.15 | trixter | either way its an additional cost, one that can make the system several times more money, money they may not have |
| 13:02.25 | benjk | reminds me of that silly bastard company which insisted on analog phones because of wiring and then it turned out that the wiring was so old that it had to be replaced anyway |
| 13:02.48 | benjk | but they blamed the troubles on Asterisk |
| 13:03.02 | trixter | jcath: I have used sjlabs sjphone but it had horrible echo on my ipaq (others on different model pdas didnt report the echo) now I use XTENs XPro for pocket pc |
| 13:03.11 | trixter | sjphone is free xpro for pocket pc is like $20 |
| 13:03.27 | jcath | oh, thanks |
| 13:03.48 | trixter | give sjphone a try if it works great, if not well ... |
| 13:03.59 | trixter | if you are looking at embedded arm, there are debian packages available |
| 13:04.02 | jcath | is sjphone open source? |
| 13:04.06 | trixter | no |
| 13:04.16 | jcath | oh |
| 13:04.21 | trixter | xpro does speex though :P |
| 13:04.59 | syle | anyone actually use speex though lol |
| 13:05.06 | trixter | a word of caution, debian arm 'stable' 'testing' 'unstable' doesnt quite mean the same as debian x86 |
| 13:05.31 | trixter | on x86 generally stable and testing work and unstable may occasionally break.. in debian arm testing may break unstable will most likely break |
| 13:05.34 | trixter | stable is fairly stable though |
| 13:05.54 | jcath | the license of speex is GPL, isnt it? |
| 13:05.58 | trixter | syle: given the bandwidth choices I have on my ipaq I occasionally do just so that I can save bandwidth when I need to |
| 13:06.09 | trixter | that isnt my default setting though |
| 13:06.22 | trixter | the license of a specific speex library may be gpl |
| 13:06.27 | trixter | you cant gpl a concept |
| 13:06.35 | Druken | anyone ever tried to do a voip call over a cell aircard? |
| 13:06.36 | trixter | only code itself because it relies on copyright law |
| 13:06.48 | trixter | druken: what type of aircard? |
| 13:06.53 | jcath | oh, see |
| 13:06.57 | Druken | cellular |
| 13:07.09 | trixter | druken: I have on a gc82, and will soon on a gc83 (next AUG) |
| 13:07.15 | trixter | yeah what type |
| 13:07.51 | Druken | oh.. well i'm just thinking of getting one... don't actually have one :) |
| 13:08.24 | trixter | ahh |
| 13:08.40 | trixter | well quality depends largely on the carrier, your card and the RF properties where you physically are |
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| 13:09.04 | trixter | multipath, interference, background noise (RF noise), etc all contribute to signal quality ... |
| 13:09.30 | syle | 49 more hours till the xbox 360 |
| 13:10.04 | Druken | trixter: what is multipath ? |
| 13:10.45 | trixter | basically its where a signal is transmitted from a radio, it then goes to the receiver, but some of it bounces off some object (building mountain, etc) and the reflected signal takes slightly longer to get to the receiver |
| 13:10.51 | trixter | this causes problems with reception quality |
| 13:11.06 | trixter | in effect the RF took multiple paths to the receiver, thus multipath :) |
| 13:11.35 | Druken | oh... |
| 13:11.51 | Druken | this is cellular your talking about? |
| 13:11.58 | trixter | any wireless technology |
| 13:12.02 | trixter | radio is radio for the most part |
| 13:12.24 | trixter | that isnt always true becuase there are differences, polarization for example, but generally speaking radio is radio |
| 13:13.22 | trixter | and werent you talking about a mobile radio based card for data communication? |
| 13:13.59 | Druken | well yeah... an aircard, that works on the cellular data network |
| 13:14.10 | trixter | :) |
| 13:14.59 | Druken | i figure... $100 buxs a month for unlimited.. if i can do voip over it.. it is even more worth it |
| 13:15.10 | trixter | what carrier? |
| 13:15.15 | Druken | telus |
| 13:15.17 | trixter | its less than that here for unlimited with cingular/att |
| 13:15.41 | trixter | what country? the only people that I have heard use the term 'cellular' are north americans |
| 13:15.55 | trixter | ahh ok so that all fits |
| 13:16.08 | trixter | well its about the same then in terms of raw cost |
| 13:16.13 | trixter | given the currency difference |
| 13:16.46 | trixter | what I want is the 7.2Mbps wireless data available soon in germany from tmobile |
| 13:17.35 | Druken | hehehe |
| 13:18.04 | Druken | i want a mobile trunking system that has a data sideband |
| 13:18.16 | trixter | hopefully tmobile deploys that globally everywhere they exist, but I dont see that happening before 2007 |
| 13:18.28 | Druken | i'd make sure every taxi had one :) you'd have data everywhere |
| 13:19.07 | trixter | the busses not too far from me have wifi in them |
| 13:19.10 | trixter | and Tvs |
| 13:19.25 | Druken | that's awesome |
| 13:19.27 | Druken | hehe |
| 13:19.35 | trixter | need wifi? just follow a bus |
| 13:19.40 | trixter | big radomes on top too |
| 13:20.01 | Druken | :) |
| 13:20.17 | Druken | will be nice when wireless internet because faster and better |
| 13:21.40 | syle | screw that give me the satellite internet the military has :) |
| 13:21.43 | Druken | oh and CHEAPER |
| 13:22.16 | benjk | I guess that'll work extremely well indoors |
| 13:22.50 | Druken | would work well in my van... which is where i spend 90% of my fucking time... |
| 13:23.24 | benjk | hopefully, the rising oil prices will change that |
| 13:23.37 | Druken | just for kicks i'd get voip in my van, and use an ata, with the oldest fucken phone i could find :) |
| 13:23.48 | Druken | just to see the looks from people as i'm talking on it |
| 13:24.21 | Druken | benjk: yeah, and hopefully an airplane will fall on you... |
| 13:25.05 | benjk | I am serious |
| 13:25.08 | Druken | syle: :) i have an old western electric phone on my system |
| 13:25.21 | trixter | syle: if its a geostationary satellite then you have a high latency.. tcp can overcome some of that with sliding windows but udp will forever be horrible lagged |
| 13:25.41 | benjk | there is something wrong with spending 90% of ones time on the road |
| 13:25.44 | Druken | benjk: i am a courier... do you think i like the current oil prices? not really.... it's not just for fun being in the car |
| 13:25.46 | trixter | low eart orbit takes a network of satellites to accomplish any reasonable coverage |
| 13:26.16 | Druken | benjk: there's also something wrong with sitting on irc 90% of the time... but you do it.. |
| 13:26.17 | benjk | in a fuel wasting van |
| 13:26.17 | syle | well how is internet fed from NA to europe |
| 13:26.24 | syle | satellite only right? |
| 13:26.26 | trixter | fiber in the ocean largely |
| 13:26.32 | syle | no shit |
| 13:26.50 | benjk | not really, I am coming an going, I just don't log out, that's all |
| 13:26.53 | trixter | infact there was a HUGE deployment a few years ago where many european companies paid to have fiber installed NY to london then fed to germany and other places |
| 13:26.54 | syle | that must have been an expensive project |
| 13:27.05 | trixter | not nearly as much as satellites |
| 13:27.19 | trixter | irridium blew their $4B budget quick |
| 13:27.45 | Druken | a $4b budget is only a wet dream in my life |
| 13:27.52 | trixter | fiber typically has higher capacity, and lasts longer.. prior to the hughes ion engine satellites only lasted about 4 years now with that they last over 10 at the same weight |
| 13:28.32 | benjk | Druken: fair enough, but I am nevertheless hoping that oil prices will kill all that which relies on fossil fules |
| 13:28.52 | trixter | yeah especially since they can make oil in 3 hours |
| 13:29.48 | benjk | of course if you tell me you are driving a hydrogen or biofuel driven truck, I'll take my hat off |
| 13:30.02 | Druken | well, you develope something that can carry 1000 lbs or more, and drive for 8 hours straight at speeds up to 140 km |
| 13:30.09 | Druken | and i'll drive it no problem :) |
| 13:30.10 | benjk | but you will probably tell me that this is too expensive |
| 13:30.40 | trixter | the problem with where I live is that anything that is 'alternative' isnt that good I wont be able to fuel it up |
| 13:30.41 | Druken | hydrogen is not available where i am |
| 13:30.52 | benjk | and that's why I think oil prices should rise and rise and rise so that alternative technologies become competitive and get the funding they need |
| 13:30.55 | trixter | electric wont work well becuase of the roads |
| 13:31.05 | trixter | plus I go off roading and well ... |
| 13:31.20 | trixter | although some of the roads around my house are like medium grade trails at many off road parks |
| 13:31.21 | benjk | its not available because oil is too cheap |
| 13:31.22 | trixter | :) |
| 13:31.35 | trixter | it wont be available here because there arent enough people to support the change |
| 13:31.40 | trixter | diesel is hard enough to get out here |
| 13:31.51 | benjk | thats because oil it soo cheap |
| 13:32.05 | Druken | diesel is readily available here... same with natural gas... |
| 13:32.13 | benjk | if oil prices go through the roof they will be ready for a change trust me |
| 13:32.14 | Druken | but natural gas is gutless |
| 13:32.43 | Druken | benjk: no they won't... it'll just bankrupt alot of people |
| 13:32.57 | Druken | the fuel goes up, i just charge more |
| 13:33.00 | Druken | simple as that |
| 13:33.20 | Druken | hell, my fuel surcharge is currently 10% |
| 13:33.36 | benjk | yeah, but as fuel prices go up, more investment will flow into alternative energies |
| 13:34.12 | Druken | apparently we are supposed to get an ethanol plant in town, but a bunch of people are fighting it |
| 13:34.24 | Druken | why someone would fight it.. i dunno... fucken retards |
| 13:35.01 | benjk | well, that only confirms what I said: oil is too cheap |
| 13:35.04 | trixter | at about $25-30/barrel its cost effective to make oil which takes about 3 hours in a commercial plant.. 2 are operating in america the initial test plant in philly and the full production plant in the midwest. If the raw materials used were all used nationally instead of discarded (and its not vegetable oil from a donut shop) then we would be able to make almost as much oil as we import |
| 13:35.17 | trixter | plants like this are being built in italy and a few other european destinations as well |
| 13:35.39 | trixter | druken: yeah mtbe is so much better.. its a known cancer causer |
| 13:36.18 | Druken | mtbe ? |
| 13:36.57 | benjk | The university of Cambridge has developed a process by which sunflower seed oil is converted into biofuel |
| 13:38.00 | benjk | I read an interview with the professor who leads the project (I think it was in the Economist) and he said, that their process would be competitive when oil goes above 70 USD per barrel |
| 13:40.00 | trixter | mtbe is the oxygenating agent that is added to fuel, the alternative is ethanol |
| 13:40.29 | trixter | the democrats in america and the oil companies are banding together to fight bush to make a national standard here (which would make gas cheaper all around) and switch from mtbe to ethanol |
| 13:41.26 | trixter | well for a no cost way that really any government can improve their ecomnomy I have a paper I wrote on my website http://www.0xdecafbad.com/ somewhere.. 'way to help the ecomony' it goes into loan guarantees on manufacturing oil and other such stuff.. |
| 13:41.32 | Druken | ethanol is better, yeah... we already use it here... |
| 13:41.56 | Druken | it comes from corn, and after it's all processed, you have cow feed... (the left over corn) |
| 13:42.25 | trixter | the US imports so much oil that our dollar is weakened by it, all that cash leaving the country ... if instead most of that money was kept in america the dollar would be much stronger ... the trade deficit would almost go away, etc. Any country that imports oil on a mass scale would benefit the same |
| 13:42.39 | trixter | 76 used ot use it here, but I think its illegal in this state for them to do that |
| 13:43.02 | trixter | they have to use mtbe here, california has a special blend of gas that is *only* made and sold in california.. why they have the highest prices in the nation |
| 13:43.11 | benjk | a strong dollar would be a mixed blessing though |
| 13:43.17 | trixter | only south lake tahoe (city) is allowed to import out of state gas, everywhere else in the state its illegal |
| 13:43.24 | benjk | make US exports less competitive |
| 13:43.32 | trixter | yes it would but its better than a weak dollar with a huge trade deficit |
| 13:43.59 | trixter | as exports become less competitive it would self correct the value of the dollar in the long run it would be a better position to be in though |
| 13:44.08 | Druken | hehe trust me.. the us isn't hurting... |
| 13:44.09 | trixter | and day traders could make a killing on currency markets |
| 13:44.10 | trixter | :) |
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| 13:44.28 | benjk | but the unions would go haywire |
| 13:44.40 | trixter | as it stands now we import billions of dollars of goods more than we export, correcting that would be a good thing |
| 13:44.56 | benjk | and as the US then imports even more stuff, the trade deficit wouldn't change much |
| 13:45.00 | trixter | the unions need to be disbanded, they are the *only* nonprofit in america that is allowed to contribute to political parties |
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| 13:45.31 | trixter | they basically extort money from workers and often do stuff with that money the workers dont want to do |
| 13:46.07 | trixter | look at the unions in california, the teachers union specifically, borrowed $100M to fight for an election recently so much so that had the law passed they would have been bankrupt.. now to pay that loan back they have to raise dues |
| 13:46.16 | benjk | all powerful lobbying groups abuse their power |
| 13:46.18 | trixter | what was the issue over? making political contributions opt-in instead of opt-out |
| 13:46.48 | trixter | under the opt-out program you have to *prove* how much the union spent, and you cant see the books.. people often get $1.50 back if they opt-out becuase the union has no incentive nor legal requirement to open up the books |
| 13:47.41 | trixter | the unions said that an opt-in program would take away the members voice.. how so if its really their voice they would opt in.. but meh.. the unions know that people would rather spend that money on food and housing than the political stuff anyway so the unions wouldnt see any money :P |
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| 13:49.51 | benjk | speaking about money ... how do you afford to offer free calls? does this use peering like Dundi or are you running a loss to win customers and hope to recover this later? |
| 13:50.15 | trixter | trade secret :P |
| 13:50.27 | trixter | most of it is based off donations of various resources |
| 13:52.52 | benjk | ok, so do you have any limits then on how much total call volume you can give away for free? |
| 13:53.41 | trixter | ultimately yes, but its a high enoughnumber it shouldnt be a problem |
| 13:55.12 | trixter | I am going to be working on the tos, the free services are for residential customers only, so if someone were to try to push many thousands of minutes per month I would know they arent likely residential ... |
| 13:55.25 | benjk | sure |
| 13:55.45 | trixter | there will be paid business service with different, higher quality routes, SLAs, support, etc |
| 13:56.08 | trixter | but I havent had time to work on the page and havnt gotten the new server yet so I cant open it up to everyone just yet |
| 13:56.12 | benjk | but what about a non-profit community that runs a gateway to their members and offer some kind of donation sharing? |
| 13:56.49 | benjk | would that be of any interest? |
| 13:57.21 | trixter | if they donate then it would be paid service and fall into the business class |
| 13:57.22 | trixter | :) |
| 13:57.44 | benjk | donations yes, but not on a metered basis |
| 13:57.46 | chapeaurouge | how can i listen to the .gsm file other than with asterisk? |
| 13:58.01 | trixter | chap: with an audio player |
| 13:58.07 | trixter | there is a gsm plugin for winamp for example |
| 13:58.08 | benjk | chap: double click on it |
| 13:58.15 | chapeaurouge | trixter, yea.. well..doesn't seem to work |
| 13:58.27 | oldbrat | convert it first |
| 13:58.33 | trixter | http://www.asteriskguru.com/audio_conversion.php |
| 13:58.41 | chapeaurouge | thx |
| 13:59.09 | chapeaurouge | damn.. 1 by one... |
| 13:59.16 | trixter | you can use sox |
| 13:59.23 | trixter | write a little script or something |
| 13:59.57 | chapeaurouge | ok.. didn't know sox... will read man page. thx |
| 14:00.03 | trixter | http://rus.members.beeb.net/zgsmplay.html |
| 14:00.43 | trixter | http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=GSM |
| 14:00.50 | trixter | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gsm+sound+player&btnG=Google+Search |
| 14:00.51 | endre | ribancok |
| 14:01.56 | chapeaurouge | wow nice... |
| 14:02.04 | chapeaurouge | that zgsmplay curses interface :) |
| 14:02.38 | oldbrat | why we don't have busydetect on chan sip, anyone know? |
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| 14:03.39 | benjk | trixter: the idea goes like this ... my members donate X dollars to our non-profit cause in return for enabling free calls, which our server routes to you for termination, and you get a share in the donations |
| 14:04.28 | trixter | why dont they donate X dollars to my cause and route directly to me? |
| 14:04.52 | trixter | I will even make it a not for profit group, Sacrament oasterisk users group |
| 14:04.58 | trixter | er sacramento |
| 14:06.05 | benjk | If you can provide them with the fancy MacOS X GUI Cocoa tools that allows them to get everything going even though they have no clue about Asterisk and they don't wont to spend even 1 minute on reading anything about it, go ahead and set you your own OSX community |
| 14:07.37 | trixter | they could donate anyway |
| 14:07.39 | trixter | :P |
| 14:08.13 | benjk | they rather donate to a place which uses the funds to develop OSX stuff for them to use freely on their Macs |
| 14:08.46 | benjk | Zaptel drivers for OSX for instance |
| 14:09.07 | trixter | but that wouldnt happen if part of the donation went to free calls :P |
| 14:09.27 | benjk | why? |
| 14:10.08 | benjk | the climate for donations generally improves the more things you can provide |
| 14:10.19 | trixter | the donation wouldnt go to a place that uses the funds to develop osx stuff |
| 14:10.22 | trixter | that part of it wouldnt happen |
| 14:10.28 | trixter | part of them might but not all of them |
| 14:10.32 | benjk | not with you |
| 14:10.39 | trixter | it was a joke sorta.. why there was a :P at the end |
| 14:10.44 | benjk | but donations to us will |
| 14:11.42 | benjk | ok |
| 14:12.29 | benjk | We've got ENUM dialing on our server but most of the time that isn't of much help |
| 14:13.19 | trixter | nah a lot of the providers dont wanna do that right now, nor dundi |
| 14:13.29 | trixter | the pstn ones anyway |
| 14:13.35 | trixter | er pstn interconnected |
| 14:13.36 | benjk | buying airtime and resell it would make the whole thing a for profit operation which isn't what we are about |
| 14:15.04 | trixter | perhaps osmething can be worked out in the near future |
| 14:15.11 | trixter | take a poll and see what your userbase says |
| 14:15.55 | benjk | well, I have a backlog of about 200 applications for free VoIP accounts even on the current service which is peer-to-peer and ENUM only |
| 14:16.57 | trixter | why havent you set up an automated system ? |
| 14:17.06 | trixter | with realtime extensions it isnt that hard |
| 14:17.21 | benjk | if there is anything like a PSTN gateway, even with limits like maximum call duration etc etc, tied to making a donation, then they will donate, no question |
| 14:17.38 | benjk | one of our guys is working on that |
| 14:18.05 | benjk | we have only recently upgraded to a new server which held a few things back |
| 14:20.34 | trixter | how do you mean pstn gateway |
| 14:20.43 | trixter | asterisk can act as a media gateway and that media can be connected to the pstn |
| 14:21.11 | benjk | yeah but I am not willing to pay for the calls :-) |
| 14:21.50 | trixter | ahh ... |
| 14:21.51 | benjk | I pay for my own calls, ok, but not for other folks for whom I already spent a lot of time writing free software |
| 14:23.06 | benjk | basically what I am talking about is making it more attractive to donate so that there are more donations (part of which at least to be used) for development |
| 14:25.05 | benjk | sounds like a good idea |
| 14:33.10 | chapeaurouge | what is the 's' purpose in the default context? |
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| 14:39.47 | Druken | chapeaurouge: s == start |
| 14:40.33 | QbY | anyone ever set up asterisk to play the "this call is being recorded" tones? the simple beep every 30 seconds or so.. |
| 14:40.57 | chapeaurouge | Druken, yes. but no calls from outside never go thru 's'. Is it only used when a call is coming from another context? |
| 14:41.02 | Druken | what "this call is being recoded" tones? |
| 14:41.24 | Flauto | qwell, are you there |
| 14:41.29 | Druken | chapeaurouge: depends... |
| 14:41.47 | [TK]D-Fender | chapeaurouge : I can pick this up in PM. |
| 14:42.05 | chapeaurouge | hehe |
| 14:42.07 | chapeaurouge | thx :) |
| 14:42.09 | [TK]D-Fender | np |
| 14:42.33 | QbY | Druken.. If you ever call ADT or other places, you'll hear a beep every thirty seconds.. I want those beeps for a queue in our system |
| 14:42.50 | joubert | hi everyone, been playing with asterisk (A@H). Got everything working except when I dial out with my analog line, I always get a busy signal. I can call in without a problem. Just out. Any pointer would be greatly appreciated. |
| 14:43.17 | [TK]D-Fender | joubert, copy your extension.conf to www.pastebin.ca |
| 14:43.40 | Druken | QbY: oh... no i don't think that has been done, that is sorta the old way of doing things... |
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| 14:49.46 | joubert | D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/29592 |
| 14:51.46 | [TK]D-Fender | oh God.... AMP..... |
| 14:52.02 | joubert | yes :-) |
| 14:52.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Sorry, can't help with that... its too mess for my eyes :/ |
| 14:53.12 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 14:53.27 | joubert | are there general problems that I can go investigate? |
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| 14:58.00 | Druken | yeah... first problem is it's amp :) |
| 14:59.04 | [TK]D-Fender | AMP "works", but is really hard to decode because of all of the calculated field from extern resources that don't get included. |
| 14:59.12 | [TK]D-Fender | ASTDB stuff and whatnot... |
| 15:03.04 | joubert | D-Fender: thanks. will try the #amportal channel |
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| 15:05.03 | burtonez | hello, |
| 15:05.22 | burtonez | anyone can tell me how to enable/compile chan_misdn in 1.2.0 ? |
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| 15:21.36 | Cybertoy | hi there... anyone know what happened to the application Prefix()? Seems like it no longer exists? |
| 15:22.03 | Cybertoy | Nov 20 09:45:18 WARNING[19533]: pbx.c:1690 pbx_extension_helper: No application 'Prefix' for extension (local, xxxxxxxxxx, 1) |
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| 15:42.50 | Druken | Cybertoy: what did prefix do ? |
| 15:43.08 | Cybertoy | it pre-pends a digit... |
| 15:43.20 | SkramX | I have a question; Let's say I got a colocated server, and had a digium card running in it (for zaptel timing) is it possible r viable for me to share the timing with other servers that cannot have the PCI card in them for whatever reason? |
| 15:43.25 | Cybertoy | e.g. if you dial a 10 digit us number you can use it to prepend the "1" ... |
| 15:44.00 | Druken | SkramX: just use ztdummy |
| 15:44.34 | Druken | Cybertoy: why not just dial(1${EXTEN}) ? |
| 15:44.58 | SkramX | Druken: it isnt as good as a real digium device. |
| 15:45.14 | Cybertoy | druken, that's what I'm going to do now ... but I used to use the Prefix command as the dial-plan is pretty complex. |
| 15:45.28 | Druken | SkramX: true, but i've never seen computers share pci devices... |
| 15:45.48 | Druken | Cybertoy: can't be anymore complex than mine... :) |
| 15:45.53 | SkramX | well.. doesnt mean it isnt possible |
| 15:46.59 | ikarus | SkramX: it is |
| 15:47.31 | chapeaurouge | asking for a test.... someone pls call me at sip:home@jaolin.net |
| 15:47.32 | ikarus | but there is a better dummy timer then ztdummy iirc |
| 15:47.32 | chapeaurouge | thx |
| 15:47.37 | ikarus | forgot the name though |
| 15:49.14 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm trying to help chapeaurouge here out, can someone try to call that URI? |
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| 15:49.58 | chapeaurouge | bleh.. anyone hold. :P |
| 15:50.13 | Druken | god damn monkeys |
| 15:50.36 | chapeaurouge | lol |
| 15:50.49 | Cybertoy | so what number works? |
| 15:51.39 | chapeaurouge | lol |
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| 15:53.03 | [TK]D-Fender | try ext 200 |
| 15:54.22 | [TK]D-Fender | yay :) |
| 15:54.22 | [TK]D-Fender | looking good |
| 15:54.22 | Cybertoy | what happened? |
| 15:54.22 | chapeaurouge | lol |
| 15:54.22 | chapeaurouge | who called me at 200? |
| 15:54.22 | Cybertoy | I did |
| 15:54.22 | chapeaurouge | ok |
| 15:54.23 | chapeaurouge | i didn't hear you |
| 15:54.23 | chapeaurouge | :P |
| 15:54.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Hmmm, maybe a NAT problem? |
| 15:54.23 | Cybertoy | perhaps NAT... |
| 15:54.23 | Cybertoy | yeah |
| 15:54.23 | chapeaurouge | no |
| 15:54.23 | chapeaurouge | it worked this morning |
| 15:54.23 | Cybertoy | but on my end |
| 15:54.23 | chapeaurouge | ah |
| 15:54.23 | [TK]D-Fender | But the CALL completed and I was only debugging a dialplan so that did it :) |
| 15:54.31 | Cybertoy | I usually don't call URI's from my softphone |
| 15:54.36 | Cybertoy | but go through my asterisk. |
| 15:54.36 | chapeaurouge | [TK]D-Fender, it was working b4 you changed stuff, but thx ;) |
| 15:54.39 | [TK]D-Fender | If there is a NAT issue.... well thats something else :) |
| 15:54.58 | chapeaurouge | Maxim hehe |
| 15:54.59 | Druken | i think i'm going to add an option to my web based app for uri's to be entered too.... |
| 15:55.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Yeah, but they shouldn't get a menu when they are calling YOU and not a generic address :) |
| 15:55.07 | Druken | that way i can do test calls to uri's... |
| 15:55.12 | [TK]D-Fender | we're getting there... |
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| 16:13.34 | kingtux | Hello all....Is there a credit card system that intergrates to asterisk?? |
| 16:13.51 | MikeJ[Laptop] | astcc? |
| 16:14.07 | benjk | kingtux: we are just writing one |
| 16:14.15 | kingtux | is that calling cards system? |
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| 16:14.50 | kingtux | hows the process coming along benjk |
| 16:15.19 | benjk | we're using PayPal's new Direct Payment service (business accounts only) |
| 16:15.38 | benjk | and their SOAP based API |
| 16:16.07 | kingtux | Whast is the overrall application you are using this for |
| 16:16.45 | benjk | the first step (present) is to integrate this into our website |
| 16:17.15 | benjk | the next step will be to hook it up to Asterisk |
| 16:18.03 | kingtux | I'm looking to do something via IVR, have you heard of such a thing |
| 16:18.06 | benjk | we want to offer a donation based free VoIP service with PSTN gateway |
| 16:18.25 | benjk | members will make a donation to have PSTN calls enabled |
| 16:18.39 | kingtux | ok |
| 16:18.39 | benjk | this is a non-profit site |
| 16:18.46 | kingtux | cool |
| 16:18.55 | endre | nice |
| 16:19.00 | benjk | we use the money to fund development of Asterisk add-ons and drivers for MacOS X |
| 16:19.55 | benjk | so you want people to enter their credit card details by IVR? |
| 16:20.18 | kingtux | yes then dial out and charge |
| 16:20.38 | benjk | for each call? |
| 16:21.07 | ikarus | benjk: company I worked for did that with numbers longer then any CC number |
| 16:21.07 | kingtux | No just to pay for a service we provide |
| 16:21.20 | ikarus | people don't mind pushing in a 15 digit number |
| 16:21.21 | benjk | ah ok |
| 16:21.31 | benjk | well, this can be done of course |
| 16:21.37 | kingtux | so they call up pick the service they want then pay |
| 16:21.55 | kingtux | with out manual inputing of credit card numbers on our end |
| 16:22.20 | benjk | if you want to use the PayPal service to handle your credit card payments, it is far cheaper than most merchant accounts and there are no setup fees and no monthly fees |
| 16:22.51 | ikarus | benjk: unless you have a very kind bank |
| 16:22.59 | benjk | The catch 22 is that PayPal demands that you give your customers a choice to pay by PayPal or by credit card |
| 16:23.12 | benjk | which is fair enough |
| 16:23.18 | kingtux | yeah that sounds fair |
| 16:23.30 | ikarus | but paypal by phone is a bit cumbersome :) |
| 16:23.30 | kingtux | what paypal service do u recommend |
| 16:23.49 | benjk | yes, that would need to be worked out |
| 16:24.23 | yxa | other than AMP, are there any web ui worth taking a look? |
| 16:24.39 | benjk | The service which allows you to use the Direct Payments API (the credit card only payments without a paypal account) is the business account |
| 16:25.18 | kingtux | thanks will look into this more |
| 16:25.25 | benjk | yxa: ThirdLane made a very good impresion on me |
| 16:25.31 | ikarus | benjk: actually many banks can be quite amiable in providing CC service (in Europe), I would pay 15 euro a month and 25 cents per transaction, if I get verified |
| 16:25.57 | benjk | kingtux: as for entering email addresses by phone, your best bet would be voice recognition |
| 16:26.06 | yxa | benjk is it free? |
| 16:26.15 | ikarus | benjk: voice recognition is iffy at best |
| 16:26.25 | benjk | yxa, I don;t actually remember |
| 16:26.25 | ikarus | benjk: on a phone quality line it is simply abd |
| 16:26.48 | iDunno | I'd *love* to see a machine voice recognise (and get right) my e-mail address without me having to spell it out letter by letter ;) |
| 16:26.58 | iDunno | (iDunno at sommitrealweird.co.uk) |
| 16:27.01 | benjk | I know a guy who is a researcher at Tokyo Institute of Technology |
| 16:27.24 | benjk | They are in a research project now to test their speech recognition |
| 16:27.25 | ikarus | iDunno: pfff, here the railways phone planner uses voice recognition, it NEVER gets my choice right |
| 16:27.43 | benjk | I have advised them on VoIP and Asterisk |
| 16:28.01 | benjk | their stuff is very good |
| 16:28.02 | ikarus | benjk: the thing is, many different accents, etc throw it off |
| 16:28.21 | benjk | they are training their recogniser for different VoIP codecs and all that |
| 16:28.35 | benjk | they say they have managed the accents |
| 16:28.55 | ikarus | benjk: I want to see them try Dutch |
| 16:29.12 | benjk | apparently Tokyo Institute of Technology are one of the worlds top labs for speech recognition |
| 16:29.15 | ikarus | I can't understand it half the time :) |
| 16:29.38 | yxa | TIT :) |
| 16:29.48 | benjk | Their model is based on statistical evaluation only |
| 16:30.07 | ikarus | yxa: I know worse names for a university |
| 16:30.37 | yxa | ikarus share them ! |
| 16:30.49 | benjk | anyway, there is some interesting stuff going on in speech recognition and those researchers seem to have already discovered VoIP as a transport medium |
| 16:31.01 | ikarus | we here have the KUT and KUL (meaning vagina and bullshit) |
| 16:31.07 | lorinc | http://mobile.tikiwiki.org/ ;) |
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| 16:31.33 | ikarus | benjk: VoIP isn't much different from say the distortion GSM adds |
| 16:31.34 | Flauto | what does this mean |
| 16:31.44 | ikarus | benjk: except that the frame sync is less tight |
| 16:32.20 | benjk | of course, but the fact that they are actively pursuing strategies to deal with codec distortion is a good thing |
| 16:33.02 | ikarus | benjk: agreed, I have seen previous problems with that, for example with music recognition, mp3 and vorbis distorted it so differently compensating was a problem |
| 16:33.04 | yxa | IMHO speech recognition, with the current technology, is never gonna make it |
| 16:33.07 | benjk | I would have thought that they are still in their ivory towers not caring about speech over telephone at all, but do "pur science" |
| 16:33.46 | yxa | other than simple single-worded phrases |
| 16:34.02 | benjk | yxa: that's what I thought before I met those guys at TI Tech |
| 16:34.18 | ikarus | yxa: pfff, even those go wrong |
| 16:34.20 | benjk | they seem to have some pretty amazing stuff |
| 16:34.34 | yxa | ikarus precisely! |
| 16:34.41 | benjk | yxa: actually it is the opposite |
| 16:34.54 | benjk | the single word recognition is more difficult |
| 16:34.57 | ikarus | benjk: but I surely hope they will implement it soon here, the current stuff is based on IBM ViaVoice (which works GREAT via a microphone but sucks over the telephone) |
| 16:35.37 | ikarus | benjk: because you can train the application on the fly ? |
| 16:35.49 | benjk | well, Asterisk is likely going to be the first platform to get hooked up to their stuff |
| 16:35.51 | ikarus | or because people vocalize words better if it is more thne one |
| 16:36.12 | benjk | no, because they use a statiscial analysis approach |
| 16:36.41 | benjk | so they calculate probabilities for the next word based on what has been spoken/recognised thus far |
| 16:36.41 | yxa | benjk you have a website to this research? |
| 16:37.04 | ikarus | benjk: ah, except for many applications that is not practical |
| 16:37.38 | ikarus | benjk: it is nice if you want to recognize an entire document being read |
| 16:37.39 | benjk | they showed me some stuff on their intranet, that wasn't a public URL though |
| 16:37.58 | ikarus | but sucks for anything like paypal processing via telephone, travel information, etc |
| 16:38.08 | benjk | no they are going to build a voice google kind of thing |
| 16:38.34 | ikarus | benjk: Google already has that :P |
| 16:38.36 | benjk | you call in and ask a question and they search the web for answers and speak it back to you |
| 16:38.54 | ikarus | But yes, then it might work |
| 16:39.01 | ikarus | but for most sensible applications, nah |
| 16:39.30 | benjk | they also have something that recognises email addresses and stuff like that |
| 16:40.38 | benjk | anyway, not my research, so I am not really qualified to present it well, but what I am saying is that I was impressed by what appears to be possible as I had expected a lot less |
| 16:41.16 | ikarus | benjk: It is impressive, but it feels once more rather useless in real context, quite often the only thing you need to recognize is a single word |
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| 16:41.59 | benjk | as I said they have differenttechniques for that, like the email address recogniser |
| 16:42.16 | ikarus | benjk: I know the e-mail address recognizer stuff |
| 16:42.29 | benjk | so to me it looked as if they could make a speech interface that can take paypal payments |
| 16:42.44 | ikarus | benjk: but it is stilll much less reliable then the generic stuff |
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| 16:44.15 | ikarus | benjk: actually most of what you describe is basic AI stuff, it is not exactly new in the theory department |
| 16:45.08 | benjk | anyway, we are going to set them up with DIDs in various countries for people to call in and use the system, they then use the data from that to fine tune their recognnisers |
| 16:45.36 | ikarus | benjk: will be fun |
| 16:45.52 | ikarus | benjk: I have no idea how I can apply it, but I am sure I will imagien something |
| 16:45.57 | benjk | the guy who runs the show says he would like to spin off the technology in a company to market it |
| 16:46.59 | benjk | so I guess they will need to focus on useful things such as taking a payment over the phone |
| 16:47.42 | benjk | heck, even paypal would be interested to pay money for that |
| 16:48.21 | ikarus | benjk: here postal code recognition would be the top of the list PC's here consist of four numbers, two letters and you need the house number aswell |
| 16:48.36 | Mw3 | hi ppl. how can i set the rxgain for zaptel? i'd like to test something with ztmonitor. rxgain in /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf is for asterisk as i know. is there some gain settings in /etc/zaptel.conf ? |
| 16:49.11 | ikarus | benjk: and using the postal code DB you can quickly verify if it is correctly matching and suggest alternatives |
| 16:49.20 | benjk | ikarus: I will tell them ;-) |
| 16:49.39 | benjk | Are those UK postal codes? |
| 16:49.43 | ikarus | benjk: I am not kidding, it is the main annoyance of companies here |
| 16:49.45 | ikarus | benjk: Dutch |
| 16:49.56 | benjk | like SW7 3DO |
| 16:50.23 | ikarus | My home address can be described as "3052 PA 23" where 23 is the house number |
| 16:50.31 | benjk | Ah ok |
| 16:51.20 | benjk | the guy who runs the show there is from the UK, and the guy whose PhD thesis depends on it is Swedish |
| 16:51.49 | benjk | so not sure how high a priority Dutch postal codes would get |
| 16:51.54 | ikarus | low |
| 16:52.10 | benjk | I presume they'd be more interested in US and UK codes |
| 16:52.21 | benjk | or US social security numbers |
| 16:52.30 | ikarus | benjk: US codes can be entered entirely as numbers, so aren't as high importance |
| 16:52.50 | trixter | I really need to put a dealy on my outbound mail instead of imediate.. twice in the last week or two I have sent an email to the list that I didnt mean to.. not bad considering the volume overall and the length I have been on, but still.. either that or actually sleep sometime, maybe that will cause me to check the rcpt to before sending :) |
| 16:53.01 | benjk | arent US social security codes alphanumeric? |
| 16:53.07 | trixter | no |
| 16:53.08 | ikarus | benjk: no idea on that |
| 16:53.09 | trixter | numeric only |
| 16:53.18 | trixter | 9 digits |
| 16:53.26 | ikarus | benjk: I might actually drop a call to TNO and KPN on this, they might be very interested in adapting the technology at the least |
| 16:53.46 | benjk | Ah ok, that makes it easy then |
| 16:53.46 | ikarus | (TNO is a technical research organisation, KPN is the largest telco) |
| 16:54.12 | benjk | I know KPN |
| 16:54.56 | trixter | coincidentally tax id numbers are 9 digits.. formatting is different though.. social security numbers are broken up into groups, XXX-YY-ZZZZ where XXX coresponds to the state of issuance YY is the 'group' which has no meaning other than to break up the number and ZZZZ completes it. they are issued sequentially which allows you to eaisly tell what year it was issued. tax id numbers especially for businesses but ... are normally formatted XX-YYYYYY |
| 16:54.56 | trixter | Y |
| 16:55.10 | benjk | ikarus: if you get them interested, let me know and we put them in touch with the guys at TI Tech |
| 16:55.19 | trixter | now you know more than you ever cared to about US social security numbers :P |
| 16:55.34 | benjk | :-) |
| 16:56.20 | ikarus | benjk: will do, I hope I get through to the right group (I know some people working on a totally different subject for those two) |
| 16:56.20 | trixter | benjk heck, even paypal would be interested to pay money for that -- nah they would just rather squash you and steal it for free :) |
| 16:56.51 | benjk | they can't steal it from me because its not mine |
| 16:56.59 | trixter | watch them!! |
| 16:57.33 | benjk | I am only the guy who will help those researchers to get hooked up to VoIP |
| 16:58.09 | benjk | to them that's almost like a plumber |
| 16:58.22 | ikarus | I hate KPN as a telco, I love them as an employer |
| 16:58.29 | trixter | my s hows are coming on TV and I really should sleep, I forgot to last night.. xtreme 4x4 and trucks! the next hour.. |
| 16:58.39 | ikarus | actually mostly their mobile branch is annoying |
| 16:58.50 | ikarus | with MSN chat on mobile commercials, etc |
| 16:58.58 | benjk | all big telcos are to be disliked |
| 16:59.26 | trixter | benjk: to *most* people doing anything more than playing solitare or anything more than an answering machine is like hiring a plumber.. they know sorta how it works but not enough to do it themselves and generally cant do it, at least not right |
| 17:00.17 | ikarus | benjk: their fixed-line telephone stuff is great, their data service is less then great, but if you pay enough, it is decent, but chatman has to DIE |
| 17:00.22 | hhoffman | is there anyone to dynamically set the SAVED_CONTEXT? |
| 17:00.24 | benjk | ya well, these guys are pretty smart |
| 17:00.27 | hhoffman | s/anyone/anyway/ |
| 17:02.30 | ikarus | this is the evil I am talking about http://www.chatman.nl/videos.asp (click the upper left video for the real evil) |
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| 17:04.39 | kink0 | hello |
| 17:04.47 | Druken | who wants to do a small php project for me?? i need to be able to verify URI's like ya can verify an email's syntax... :) |
| 17:05.26 | kink0 | Druken, what you need to verify from URI ? |
| 17:05.50 | SubWolf | Re chatman that's scary. |
| 17:05.53 | kink0 | ahh an important question, hehehe, php under linux or under M$ ? |
| 17:06.05 | Druken | linux |
| 17:06.13 | ikarus | Druken: one line of Perl could do that |
| 17:06.35 | Druken | ikarus: probably... however i'm using php... hehe |
| 17:06.39 | kink0 | well, what you need to check ? if URI is valid ? if referer server is up ? if there any know service at port 80 ? |
| 17:06.56 | Druken | just need the syntax correct |
| 17:07.21 | Druken | nothing real special... it's simply a web app, that you can enter in your URI and it'll give you a test call |
| 17:07.46 | Druken | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.47 | kink0 | a question, somebody has success in making a GSM gateway ussing Asterisk and i.e. a Siemens M20, or connection the soud card, or a Digium TDM4* ? |
| 17:07.50 | jdv79 | perl -MURI -e 'URI::new( $uri)' maybe |
| 17:08.04 | Druken | that's the email one... but i'm not sure how i'd make it work for the URI |
| 17:09.10 | *** join/#asterisk fugitivo (n=ajf@209.13.245.61) |
| 17:09.50 | Druken | ok... that chatman is fucken scarey, and wrong on too many levels |
| 17:10.45 | kink0 | a pure newbie asterisk question , who to skip to the next free channel in the event the first one is busy when an incoming voIP call must be routed to the PSTN ? |
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| 17:12.48 | Druken | huh? |
| 17:13.14 | fugitivo | e |
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| 17:13.26 | fugitivo | right |
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| 17:25.05 | Druken | who's got a URI i can do a test call to ? |
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| 17:25.32 | benjk | benjamin at sunrise-tel dot com |
| 17:25.51 | Druken | sip iax2 ? |
| 17:25.57 | benjk | sip |
| 17:26.14 | benjk | you want an IAX URI |
| 17:26.43 | elmar69 | After upgrading to 1.2 I get an "SIP 400" (Command not conforming to RFC3261) error on connecting to my VOIP-Provider (T-Online). |
| 17:26.45 | elmar69 | What can raise that PRoblem? |
| 17:26.46 | elmar69 | Where to find an Documentation what to be changed on updating from 1.0 to 1.2? |
| 17:27.00 | Druken | benjk: nah that'll do |
| 17:28.37 | asterboy | Attended call transfers...nice feature. |
| 17:28.38 | chapeaurouge | where can we find more .gsm files with the same voice that came with asterisk? |
| 17:29.00 | tzanger | chapeaurouge: thevoice.digium.com |
| 17:29.04 | chapeaurouge | thx |
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| 17:29.33 | chapeaurouge | HOLY SHIT! even greets you with DA voice. |
| 17:29.44 | RoyK | DA? |
| 17:29.44 | wunderkin | and check asterisk-sounds on cvs |
| 17:29.50 | file | omfg it's SwK |
| 17:30.15 | chapeaurouge | RoyK, ya, lived too long in louisiana.. |
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| 17:30.32 | Flauto | i always get this message, would anyone tell me what is this message for? Nov 20 11:27:57 WARNING[28517]: chan_sip.c:9599 handle_response_register: Got 200 OK on REGISTER that isn't a register |
| 17:32.00 | SwK | omfg its file |
| 17:32.26 | chapeaurouge | so i guess you pay the TheVoice credits after they record the prompt? |
| 17:32.57 | chapeaurouge | nm |
| 17:39.34 | [TK]D-Fender | OMFG.................................... I can't believe its not butter! |
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| 17:44.55 | hhoffman | If I have a extension like exten => s,1,SetVar(SAVED_CONTEXT=incoming) is there any way to make the incoming a variable defined by the previous context? |
| 17:46.13 | *** join/#asterisk frenzy (n=frenzy@193.220.82.108) |
| 17:46.28 | frenzy | hi... |
| 17:46.35 | frenzy | I'm getting -- Executing NoOp("SIP/XX.XX.XX.XX-09e716a8", "7777777") in new stack |
| 17:46.35 | frenzy | Nov 20 12:45:39 WARNING[4774]: pbx.c:2405 __ast_pbx_run: Timeout, but no rule 't' in context 'callingcard' |
| 17:46.43 | frenzy | when calling my Asterisk SIP |
| 17:47.06 | file | it's your dialplan logic... it's telling astaerisk to do that |
| 17:47.22 | [TK]D-Fender | frenzy : Pastebin.ca it for us. |
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| 17:48.05 | [TK]D-Fender | hhoffman : Whats the goal? |
| 17:48.24 | frenzy | exten => 7777777,1,Dial(SIP/7777777) |
| 17:48.48 | Druken | benjk: ready ? |
| 17:49.16 | [TK]D-Fender | frenzy : Copy you entire extensions.conf to http://www.pastebin.ca so we can see the big picture. |
| 17:49.40 | hhoffman | [TK]D-Fender: I want to use the auto-attendent in a couple of different contexts |
| 17:50.13 | [TK]D-Fender | hhoffman : just use "Goto"'s to transfer them over |
| 17:50.36 | marcus2 | so why does my meetme sound like crap for sip users, when it works great for zap users? |
| 17:50.53 | marcus2 | i really dont think its an issue with timing source, i have two PRIs plugged into a te410p and they work great |
| 17:51.33 | hhoffman | [TK]D-Fender: kthnx :-) |
| 17:51.35 | [TK]D-Fender | marcus2 : What codec & latency? |
| 17:52.09 | marcus2 | ulaw.... sounds crappy even with sip clients on the same network as the * server |
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| 17:52.22 | marcus2 | stuttery/gravely |
| 17:52.33 | [TK]D-Fender | hmmm. |
| 17:52.41 | marcus2 | 1.2.0 |
| 17:52.42 | [TK]D-Fender | howmany channels in the meetme? |
| 17:52.51 | marcus2 | sucks with even just two |
| 17:52.54 | [TK]D-Fender | eek |
| 17:52.56 | marcus2 | two sip, or one sip, one zap |
| 17:53.09 | marcus2 | if i have one sip and one zap, the zap channel sounds fine to the sip channel, but not vice versa |
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| 17:55.24 | frenzy | http://pastebin.ca/29669 |
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| 17:56.28 | frenzy | I'm on * 1-2-0 |
| 17:56.45 | [TK]D-Fender | OMG,another defalt sample file.... |
| 17:57.37 | frenzy | ? |
| 17:57.53 | Druken | [TK]D-Fender: you mean... the config files actually need changing? why can't the program just do what i want? |
| 17:58.05 | [TK]D-Fender | lol |
| 17:58.10 | chapeaurouge | lol |
| 17:58.27 | Nivex | marcus2: I have that problem on my SPA-2000, but my 7960 with SIP firmware sounds fine. Sounds like you're talking into a box fan. |
| 17:58.32 | [TK]D-Fender | frenzy : Ok what exactly are you trying to do, and what is is doing that you'd like to change? |
| 17:58.34 | Druken | ya mean... asterisk is like me, and can't read my wife's mind? |
| 17:58.45 | marcus2 | yeah nivex, exactly |
| 17:58.59 | marcus2 | and interestingly, my sip clients are all linksys pap2, which is sipura derived |
| 17:59.03 | marcus2 | did you ever find a solution, nivex? |
| 17:59.09 | Nivex | marcus2: sadly, I have not. |
| 17:59.12 | frenzy | I'm trying to Call my DID |
| 17:59.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Druken : Don't be obtuse... I know its asking a lot ;) |
| 17:59.16 | marcus2 | well that sucks ass |
| 17:59.26 | frenzy | I get that error on Asterisk |
| 17:59.31 | frenzy | and my Phone doesnt ring |
| 17:59.46 | [TK]D-Fender | So you dial 7777777 and it tells you noop? |
| 18:00.01 | frenzy | yap |
| 18:00.18 | frenzy | I DIAL my DID |
| 18:00.21 | Druken | [TK]D-Fender: i'll try... it may take all my might... but i'll try :) |
| 18:00.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Did you forget to do a reload in CLI? |
| 18:00.35 | frenzy | NO |
| 18:01.29 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, is you * server visible from here? |
| 18:01.32 | Nivex | marcus2: I just fixed it by changing the RTP packet size from 0.030 to 0.020 |
| 18:01.52 | marcus2 | nivex; on the sipura or on * ? |
| 18:01.57 | frenzy | what do you mean |
| 18:01.58 | Nivex | marcus2: on the sipura |
| 18:03.08 | Druken | chapeaurouge: did you get all your stuff fixed ? |
| 18:03.17 | Nivex | I can't remember how to change the RTP payload size in * |
| 18:03.19 | marcus2 | nivex; oh, i dunno why i didnt think of that |
| 18:03.24 | chapeaurouge | Druken, yes it seems to all work. I am working on a test IVR now :) thx for asking |
| 18:03.33 | marcus2 | i've been wondering why it is that the pap2 sends less packets than * does |
| 18:03.34 | marcus2 | i guess now i know |
| 18:03.37 | Druken | oh, ivr's are fun :) |
| 18:04.15 | chapeaurouge | like thevoice would say: away you naughty boy lol |
| 18:04.21 | Nivex | I wonder what changed in the RTP stuff that it just now manifested itself |
| 18:04.23 | Nivex | *shrug* |
| 18:04.43 | benjk | Druken, what happend to that SIP URI call? you never rang here? |
| 18:05.21 | marcus2 | nivex; that fixed it for me too. thanks for the pointer :) |
| 18:05.28 | benjk | nothing in my logs that would show you even tried |
| 18:05.37 | yxa | is there a recent article on 2.4 vs 2.6 kernels for asterisk? |
| 18:05.44 | Nivex | marcus2: glad I could be of assistance. |
| 18:05.47 | chapeaurouge | im still not able to read mp3 from * it seems, even with the mpg123 r50 stuff. |
| 18:05.59 | marcus2 | we're going to start using meetme for internal conferencing next week |
| 18:06.10 | marcus2 | will be interesting to see how it does with ~15 zap channels and 2-3 sip chans |
| 18:06.24 | Druken | benjk: i tried it... perhaps i need an extension ?? |
| 18:06.59 | benjk | no, benjamin is the extension in the SIP URI context |
| 18:07.19 | Druken | so what is the actual URI ? |
| 18:07.35 | benjk | sip:benjamin@sunrise-tel.com |
| 18:07.59 | benjk | I just tried that myself from X-Lite and it works |
| 18:08.22 | Druken | oh well, this is an asterisk call |
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| 18:08.37 | benjk | yes but that shouldn't matter |
| 18:08.39 | Druken | so it would need to be in SIP/guest@sunrise-tel.com/benjamin |
| 18:08.49 | benjk | I do many SIP URI calls through asterisk |
| 18:09.30 | benjk | no, it's dial(SIP/benjamin@sunrise-tel.com) |
| 18:09.52 | benjk | at least on my box it is |
| 18:09.56 | file | benjk is correct... |
| 18:10.11 | benjk | the suntax you have there is more IAXish |
| 18:10.28 | Druken | well, that's what my asterisk server called... |
| 18:10.38 | Druken | -- Attempting call on SIP/benjamin@sunrise-tel.com for 7057259124@incoming:2 (Retry 3) |
| 18:10.48 | benjk | like dial(IAX2/guest@iax.sunrise-tel.com/s@incoming) |
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| 18:22.39 | benjk | hi kapejod, how's Berlin? |
| 18:23.12 | kapejod | hi benjk , it's cold and rainy |
| 18:23.27 | benjk | same in Tokyo |
| 18:23.57 | benjk | I wanted to talk to you about BRI drivers for Darwin/OSX |
| 18:24.38 | kapejod | mhhhkay |
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| 18:25.17 | benjk | ? |
| 18:25.27 | kapejod | porting BRIstuff to asterisk 1.2.0 |
| 18:25.43 | benjk | no I mean "mhhhkay" => ? |
| 18:25.58 | kapejod | oh, sorry. i watched too much south park |
| 18:26.20 | benjk | Ah |
| 18:26.46 | benjk | so you are excited about the prospect :-) |
| 18:27.21 | kapejod | excuse my ignorance but isnt osx kind of BSDish or LINUXish? |
| 18:27.53 | benjk | it is largely based on BSD but the kernel is a hybrid of FreeBSD and Mach |
| 18:28.01 | Anthro | I'm getting a set of lines in /var/log/asterisk/full like http://pastebin.ca/29686 over and over again. I just set up an IAXy with iaxyprov, and this is the result. Help? |
| 18:28.15 | kapejod | benjk: i remember somebody was porting qozap to BSD |
| 18:28.25 | kapejod | must check progress of that |
| 18:28.32 | benjk | that won't help us unfortuenatly |
| 18:28.45 | kapejod | not even a little? |
| 18:29.20 | benjk | because Darwin kernel extensions and device drivers are written in a subset of C++ using an API called IOKit |
| 18:29.29 | kapejod | arghh |
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| 18:29.48 | kapejod | does zaptel run on osx yet? |
| 18:29.51 | benjk | it has advantages once you;ve done your driver |
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| 18:30.09 | benjk | but it means you have to largely do things from scratch |
| 18:30.40 | benjk | we have a Zaprel on OSX project but that has only produced a skeleton driver for analog so for |
| 18:30.45 | benjk | er so far |
| 18:30.47 | kapejod | it all depends if there is sufficient demand for it |
| 18:32.47 | benjk | the demand should be significant because many professionals like lawyers, architects, doctors, etc etc use Macs and they prefer to have things running on the Mac so they don't have to hire IT folks to look after their stuff |
| 18:33.10 | benjk | those are the people who will not have a T1/E1 |
| 18:33.25 | kapejod | poor people ;) |
| 18:33.25 | benjk | and in Europe that means BRI |
| 18:33.32 | benjk | :-) |
| 18:34.06 | benjk | also, I have some folks sitting on the fence to sponsor the development |
| 18:34.24 | kapejod | i just would need something MACish |
| 18:34.49 | benjk | well, that can easily be arranged |
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| 18:35.20 | kapejod | but i couldnt spot a pci slot ;) |
| 18:35.23 | benjk | how old is that |
| 18:35.43 | kapejod | 15ish? |
| 18:35.55 | benjk | 1990? |
| 18:36.01 | kapejod | i doubt it |
| 18:36.17 | kapejod | i know it has a harddisk ;) |
| 18:36.34 | benjk | 15ish = 15 years old? => 2005 - 15 = 1990 |
| 18:36.46 | kapejod | 1990- |
| 18:36.59 | benjk | well its a doorstop then |
| 18:37.06 | kapejod | yep |
| 18:37.11 | kapejod | that is what i use it for |
| 18:37.19 | benjk | the earliest Macs with PCI slots are from about 1997 |
| 18:38.00 | benjk | and the earliest Macs which support OSX are from about 1998 |
| 18:38.50 | benjk | so we need to get somebody in Europe, prefereably in Germany to donate a G3 or G4 tower and ship it to you |
| 18:39.12 | kapejod | we accept worldwide shipments ;) |
| 18:39.27 | benjk | I can put a request out on the Mac Asterisk mailing list and there should be somebody coming formward |
| 18:40.00 | kapejod | just find me on irc or give me a call when you have some news |
| 18:40.06 | kapejod | (email doesnt work too good) |
| 18:40.22 | benjk | yeah I discovered that |
| 18:41.02 | benjk | I will ask Apple if they would like to give you a G5 Tower |
| 18:41.35 | kapejod | does that come with a 30" tft? ;-) |
| 18:41.54 | benjk | if you were in the US this would be fairly easy but in Germany it will be up to Apple Germany and I don;'t know anybody there |
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| 18:42.40 | benjk | only if you were to convince them that a 30" TFT is necessary for the ISDN drivers |
| 18:42.47 | benjk | :-) |
| 18:42.56 | kapejod | uhmm..welll.... |
| 18:43.07 | kapejod | my eyes are pretty bad? |
| 18:43.15 | benjk | hahaha |
| 18:43.37 | kapejod | so i can get more debug output on the screen if the kernel crashes? |
| 18:44.00 | benjk | yeah that's more likely :-) |
| 18:44.03 | ikarus | kapejod: just a quick number, a G3 mac supporting Mac OS X (bit slow), is only 300 euro |
| 18:44.21 | kapejod | ikarus: if it's that cheap it cant be any good ;) |
| 18:44.22 | benjk | bah, that's expensive |
| 18:44.31 | benjk | its only 80 USD here in Japan |
| 18:44.55 | benjk | with warranty |
| 18:45.00 | ikarus | benjk: wow |
| 18:46.10 | benjk | I just bought a G4 Tower (500MHz single CPU) with 640MB RAM, 8GB HD and DVD-ROM for 220 USD, inclusive of extended warrant |
| 18:46.48 | benjk | CRT iMacs (350MHz, slot loading CD) are 30 USD |
| 18:48.19 | Rawplayer | benjk: how much did you payed for it? |
| 18:48.37 | benjk | for the G4? |
| 18:48.39 | Rawplayer | yes |
| 18:48.49 | benjk | as I said: 220 USD |
| 18:48.53 | Rawplayer | k |
| 18:49.51 | *** join/#asterisk Dr-Linux (n=loyal@202.59.75.58) |
| 18:49.59 | Dr-Linux | rhel |
| 18:50.47 | Anthro | Can someone help me configure an IAXy? I followed instructions at http://mundy.org/blog/index.php?m=20051014 but I'm getting error messages like http://pastebin.ca/29686 in /var/log/asterisk/full and I don't know what to do next. |
| 18:51.19 | benjk | anyway, kapejod, I'll organise some Mac hardware for you and we'll take it from there |
| 18:51.46 | Dr-Linux | is AMP (web interface) is fine for production setup? |
| 18:51.47 | kapejod | ok, sir! |
| 18:52.46 | benjk | Dr-Linux: its works, but the configs it generates are difficult to debug |
| 18:54.44 | Dr-Linux | benjk: what you recommend, AMP or compile package and use on CLI? |
| 18:56.21 | Dr-Linux | and whats main difference between * 1.0.9 and 1.2 ? |
| 18:56.33 | Dr-Linux | features wise as well |
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| 19:00.33 | Qwell | Okay, apple is a bit too expensive for anything real... |
| 19:00.59 | Qwell | I somehow just managed to price a powermac g5 at $9500... |
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| 19:02.07 | saftsack | hi, does someone know a tutorial for asterisk-capi? |
| 19:02.54 | Qwell | saftsack: Did you check the wiki? |
| 19:03.05 | saftsack | no, but i dunno that theres a wiki |
| 19:03.10 | Qwell | ~wikis |
| 19:03.12 | jbot | wikis is probably http://www.voip-info.org |
| 19:03.28 | benjk | Dr-Linux: if you want it for a production system you should stick with 1.0.9 for now |
| 19:03.32 | trixter | wiki tiki sneaky |
| 19:04.28 | benjk | 1.2 has only just been released |
| 19:04.34 | trixter | saftsack: www.asteriskdocs.org may have something in addition to the wiki.. for the wiki you can generally goto google and type 'asterisk cmd <command>' or 'asterisk conf <conf>' ie asterisk conf sip |
| 19:04.53 | Dr-Linux | benjk: currently i'm using 1.0.9, but i was told the 1.2 is more better, so i gonna setup another server, thats why i'm asking for openion |
| 19:05.04 | *** part/#asterisk Junbug (n=Darline@69.182.166.78) |
| 19:05.33 | benjk | as for recommendations whether or not to use AMP that's really a matter of preference |
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| 19:05.52 | Dr-Linux | :S |
| 19:06.03 | benjk | yes, 1.0.9 is good for production |
| 19:06.23 | kapejod | if you really want to get the most out of your asterisk then you need to mess with the config files yourself. |
| 19:06.24 | Dr-Linux | benjk: AMP is just for easy to manage or there is something different things |
| 19:07.12 | benjk | Dr-Linux: if you use AMP, you won't learn anything about Asterisk |
| 19:07.26 | Dr-Linux | i have almost 250 extensions |
| 19:07.34 | Dr-Linux | users* |
| 19:07.40 | benjk | so? |
| 19:07.50 | kapejod | if you have a good dialplan you can handle them all in a few lines of config |
| 19:08.02 | trixter | 1.2 has better realtime and clustering support. as well as some extra features, I do think you are taking the right approach set it up on a different server and see what, if anything, breaks |
| 19:08.10 | saftsack | some germans here? |
| 19:08.17 | kapejod | jupp |
| 19:08.23 | saftsack | do you have isdn? |
| 19:08.29 | kapejod | plenty of |
| 19:08.35 | benjk | HAhaha |
| 19:08.37 | kapejod | i have so much that i have to sell it |
| 19:08.41 | saftsack | nationalprefix=49 |
| 19:08.45 | saftsack | or +49 |
| 19:08.45 | saftsack | ? |
| 19:08.50 | kapejod | nationalprefix=0 |
| 19:08.59 | saftsack | wtf? why that? ;) |
| 19:09.04 | benjk | satfsack: kapejod == Mr.ISDN |
| 19:09.10 | tuxpert | benjk: AMP actually helped me learn a lot about asterisk because I spent a lot of time just going over AMP's dial plan. Learned a lot about macros, db actions, etc |
| 19:09.17 | saftsack | ok verstanden |
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| 19:09.32 | kapejod | saftsack: nationalprefix is what you put before the callerid that gets signalled when it's a national call |
| 19:09.42 | saftsack | ok |
| 19:09.53 | kapejod | leading zeros are not signalled, they are signalled by setting the type of number |
| 19:10.07 | Dr-Linux | but my other coleague are not familiar with Linux stuff, so i thought if i go with AMP they can do abit i.e. adding new users etc.. |
| 19:10.53 | benjk | Dr-Linux: as I said, it is a matter of preference |
| 19:11.15 | Dr-Linux | benjk: i agree with you |
| 19:11.30 | benjk | I actually liked Thirdlane better than AMP |
| 19:11.58 | saftsack | i have just to modify the entry msn in capi.conf |
| 19:11.58 | saftsack | ? |
| 19:13.10 | Dr-Linux | benjk: we have big plan for asterisk setup, we have 4 offices in different countries, i setup extnsions for all and other appropirate things, but we still didn't fix the FXO/FXS hardware yet, but we need to do |
| 19:13.31 | saftsack | kapejod, can i do a query? |
| 19:13.51 | Dr-Linux | i'm not good with hardware though |
| 19:14.18 | benjk | try to use IP phones instead of FXS |
| 19:14.56 | benjk | which countries are those offices in? |
| 19:15.43 | Dr-Linux | benjk: for now we have some cisco 7940/60 |
| 19:16.24 | Dr-Linux | benjk: 4 offices in Pakistan, 2 in USA (CA) |
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| 19:16.48 | benjk | OK, I guess that rules out BRI |
| 19:17.09 | saftsack | if capiinfo shows me the right informations about my isdn card then it is ok? |
| 19:17.10 | Dr-Linux | benjk: what about PRI ? |
| 19:18.01 | *** join/#asterisk _mwoodj_ (n=mwoodj@pdpc/sponsor/digium/hyper-eye) |
| 19:18.10 | benjk | how many lines/channels do you need per office |
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| 19:18.33 | Dr-Linux | benjk: 1st i wanna experiment between 2 offices, USA and Pakistan, as US client will reach to pakistan office to get support using US local number |
| 19:18.57 | benjk | thats easy |
| 19:20.02 | Dr-Linux | benjk: Lahore(pakistan) is our head office, but our all clients are in US, currently my * server located in pakistan, even we have more then 150 servers in US data center for other applications |
| 19:20.54 | Dr-Linux | benjk: we will have 4 lines in US, US clients will call to support |
| 19:21.08 | benjk | well, you can either get your US numbers from a DID provider who will deliver them via IAX directly to your Asterisk server |
| 19:21.38 | benjk | or you can put an Asterisk server with a PRI/T1 up in the US and deliver the caller from there |
| 19:22.09 | Dr-Linux | but in pakistan we will have more then 300 phones, 80% softphone/ip-phone other POTS |
| 19:22.52 | Dr-Linux | hhm.. great |
| 19:23.16 | Dr-Linux | benjk: what i'll use in Pakistan for POTS/analog ? |
| 19:23.35 | Dr-Linux | FXS card ? |
| 19:23.54 | benjk | if you have demand for many concurrent channels, get a PRI otherwise analog |
| 19:24.23 | benjk | FXO cards are for connection to an analog PSTN line |
| 19:25.08 | benjk | FXS is for connecting analog phones |
| 19:26.04 | Dr-Linux | benjk: let suppose we will not make outgoing calls from pakistan to US, so why we need here PSTN lines? |
| 19:26.11 | *** join/#asterisk ilTizio (i=foobar@adsl203-149-051.mclink.it) |
| 19:26.26 | kink0 | someboy can give me a fews line example for configure this scenary: Incomming call from outside voIP will be terminated to a number ussing port1, but if port1 is busy, then try same dial ussing port2 ... and so ? |
| 19:26.34 | Dr-Linux | i may wrong but i want to clear my doubts :S |
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| 19:26.56 | ilTizio | hi all, is i4l support definitively gone with chan_modem and chan_modem_i4l ? |
| 19:27.07 | benjk | Well, you meantioned FXO so I assumed you want to connect your Asterisk server there to the PSTN |
| 19:28.00 | benjk | ilTizio, as far as I understand it's not gone, but just not built by default |
| 19:28.24 | ilTizio | benjk, thank you |
| 19:28.35 | Dr-Linux | <Dr-Linux> FXS card ? << i mentioned. |
| 19:28.42 | benjk | if you want it you have to edit it back in |
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| 19:30.03 | Dr-Linux | benjk: so will it work if in Pakistan server i just use TDM400P card? |
| 19:30.33 | benjk | depends what you want to connect |
| 19:30.57 | benjk | if you don't want to connect to the Pakistani PSTN, you don;t really need any cards |
| 19:31.11 | Dr-Linux | benjk: i just want to recived calls on analog that come from US server |
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| 19:31.44 | Dr-Linux | benjk: but i need to use analog phones in pakistan to listen the calls |
| 19:31.48 | benjk | so you want to connect analog phones to the asterisk box in Pakistan |
| 19:32.15 | Dr-Linux | benjk: yes sir |
| 19:32.45 | Dr-Linux | to listen US server calls |
| 19:33.09 | justinu | hey dr-linux |
| 19:33.11 | saftsack | some germans here? |
| 19:33.16 | benjk | for that use the TDM card with FXS modules, or use adapters such as the IAXy or Sipuras |
| 19:33.19 | justinu | dr-linux wants a 24 channel audiocodes FXS sip channel bank :) |
| 19:33.30 | Qwell | nah, he wants a tdm2400p |
| 19:33.44 | Dr-Linux | justinu: hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii how are you dude :D you yahoo status is liar or what :P |
| 19:33.51 | justinu | yahoo sucks |
| 19:33.53 | justinu | :) |
| 19:34.06 | benjk | Dr-Linux: how many analog phones in Pakistan? |
| 19:34.29 | Dr-Linux | justinu: sorry i cant make him understand what i want due to my bad english and damn knowledge about * :( |
| 19:34.45 | justinu | you're doing fine :) |
| 19:35.04 | Dr-Linux | benjk: 15 to 20 analog phones |
| 19:35.53 | benjk | for that you need better than a TDM400 |
| 19:35.58 | benjk | or bigger |
| 19:36.02 | Qwell | like I said. :p |
| 19:36.04 | Dr-Linux | benjk: but sipura has only 2 FXS |
| 19:36.18 | *** part/#asterisk GeneG (n=GeneG@toronto-HSE-ppp4164580.sympatico.ca) |
| 19:36.35 | Qwell | Dr-Linux: look at the tdm2400p from Digium |
| 19:36.44 | benjk | yes, because I thought you wanted something like 4 phones, as you said 4 lines and you mentioned the TDM400 card |
| 19:36.52 | Dr-Linux | benjk: 1 TDM400? if yes i think it will have only 4 ports :S |
| 19:37.11 | benjk | right |
| 19:37.28 | Qwell | everybody always ignores me. ;] |
| 19:37.35 | kink0 | Qwell, and me !! |
| 19:37.44 | twisted | and me! |
| 19:37.46 | Dr-Linux | Qwell: bcoz you know all about, and i'm newbie :) |
| 19:37.54 | benjk | why does it have to be analog anyway? |
| 19:37.58 | benjk | analog sucks |
| 19:38.07 | justinu | i think they tried softphones and didn't like them |
| 19:38.17 | benjk | softphones suck too |
| 19:38.22 | Qwell | analog is cheaper by far than IP phones |
| 19:38.25 | justinu | budget won't allow hardphones |
| 19:38.27 | Qwell | generally, anyhow |
| 19:38.29 | Dr-Linux | benjk: what should we use instead? |
| 19:38.37 | justinu | polycom :) |
| 19:38.40 | Qwell | Dr-Linux: I told you what to use. :P |
| 19:38.44 | benjk | the best is to use IP phones |
| 19:38.47 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody here with tdm2400p? looking for input for genzaptelconf |
| 19:38.56 | benjk | real phones, deskphones |
| 19:39.45 | tzafrir_laptop | "real phones" are analog phones. ip phones are computers |
| 19:39.52 | justinu | Dr-Linux: you need to convince your boss to order you 24 polycom 501s |
| 19:39.59 | benjk | bull**** |
| 19:40.20 | benjk | justinu: doesn't have to be that fancy |
| 19:40.32 | kink0 | My question is how appear the lines at the extensions.conf to do multiple incomming calls from voIP and route to the multiple PSTN ports, in a manner if first port is busy, then try the second port to dial the number. I pretend to allow you call to my PSTN ussing several lines, from your SIP/IAX systems. |
| 19:40.34 | Dr-Linux | justinu: for that i should know whats 24 polycom 510s ? |
| 19:40.38 | justinu | doesn't have to be ghetto either :) |
| 19:40.42 | twisted | nah |
| 19:40.44 | twisted | go barbie house |
| 19:40.49 | twisted | bugetones! |
| 19:40.52 | justinu | Dr-Linux: i'll show you |
| 19:40.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Analog isn't always cheaper than IP phones.... look at the cost/per port of an ATA, then add the analog phone. Then consider the extra wiring that means. Now compare to $60 USD for a Grandstream hard-hone or $80 for a Sipura... |
| 19:40.58 | justinu | budgie tones |
| 19:41.02 | justinu | squak squak |
| 19:41.11 | benjk | budgetones are ghetto |
| 19:41.11 | Dr-Linux | :S |
| 19:41.18 | Dr-Linux | squake squake ? :S |
| 19:41.22 | twisted | benjk, oh, i thoguht they were fisher price... |
| 19:41.23 | iDunno | #> |
| 19:41.24 | saftsack | what is zapata? |
| 19:41.33 | justinu | a shoe? |
| 19:41.35 | Dr-Linux | saftsack: its a girl name |
| 19:41.41 | tzafrir_laptop | Who was Zapata |
| 19:41.49 | Qwell | General Zapata? |
| 19:41.54 | tzafrir_laptop | Emilio Zapata (sp?) |
| 19:42.00 | benjk | Emiliano Zapata |
| 19:42.11 | benjk | Its a family name |
| 19:42.12 | kapejod | viva zapata! |
| 19:42.19 | twisted | zomg |
| 19:42.21 | twisted | kapejod lives |
| 19:42.27 | saftsack | some tutorials are talking from zapata.conf |
| 19:42.28 | trixter | zapata was a general in mexico right? |
| 19:42.32 | nahirean | hello. I understand that to compile asterisk you need openssl-dev .. I am examining fedora package lists for this package and cannot seem to find it. I already grabbed openssl, which do I need for openssl-dev (asterisk isnt compiling) |
| 19:42.39 | trixter | yeah what qwell said |
| 19:42.40 | benjk | Ever head Italian Ciabatta bread? |
| 19:42.41 | kapejod | twisted: doesnt living involve having a life? |
| 19:42.48 | twisted | kapejod, unfortunately, no |
| 19:42.59 | kapejod | mhhkay |
| 19:43.04 | twisted | ciabatta is awesome |
| 19:43.15 | saftsack | /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf |
| 19:43.21 | saftsack | what is that? |
| 19:43.24 | benjk | Ciabatta == Italian for slipper |
| 19:43.30 | twisted | lol |
| 19:43.33 | benjk | Ciabatta == Zapata |
| 19:43.40 | [TK]D-Fender | Personally my company runs Polycom IP 600's and they are great. I have an SPA-941 arriving tomorrow for which I will be able to provide a review of soon. |
| 19:43.43 | justinu | zapata is spanish for shoe |
| 19:43.46 | tzafrir_laptop | http://www.zapatatelephony.org/ |
| 19:43.46 | twisted | benjk, good to know ;) |
| 19:44.03 | Qwell | eww |
| 19:44.07 | benjk | So if we ever need to BSD clone Zaptel ... |
| 19:44.17 | benjk | the project should be called Ciabatta |
| 19:44.52 | kapejod | zapata plays a big role in my "life" ;) |
| 19:45.34 | benjk | chan_ciabatta => Dial(CIA/g1/${kapejodsnumber}) |
| 19:45.35 | drumkilla | twisted: you're up! |
| 19:45.50 | twisted | drumkilla, I am, I am |
| 19:46.39 | Dr-Linux | benjk: last year i was playing with * but one of my friend using 1.0.4V suggest me, that asterisk has still some problems so don't go for it yet, like buffer problem in SIP and so, |
| 19:47.01 | Dr-Linux | so these problem was fixed in new versions or he didn't know about anything, |
| 19:47.02 | Dr-Linux | ? |
| 19:47.06 | twisted | benjk, i'm fine with all except the Dial(CIA...) part |
| 19:47.17 | drumkilla | Dr-Linux: sounds like he doesn't know what he is talking about :) |
| 19:47.21 | Qwell | Dial(CIAB...) |
| 19:47.35 | benjk | twisted: :-D |
| 19:47.37 | trixter | Dial(NSA/...) better? |
| 19:47.39 | trixter | :P |
| 19:47.40 | twisted | haha |
| 19:47.58 | benjk | dial(${CLANDESTINE}/g1/... |
| 19:47.58 | twisted | i vote we move to smarty style variable tags |
| 19:48.07 | twisted | {$BLAH} |
| 19:48.12 | twisted | just to confuse everyone |
| 19:48.14 | ikarus | The new data retention act that they are trying to push through in Europe would necessitate such a thing..... |
| 19:48.29 | twisted | oi! |
| 19:48.30 | trixter | goto a darknet |
| 19:48.34 | ikarus | Actually you might even need it now if I understood the data collection law |
| 19:48.46 | file | meeeeeeep |
| 19:48.57 | Dr-Linux | drumkilla: so you mean there is nothing like that? |
| 19:49.02 | nahirean | answered my own question, it |
| 19:49.04 | nahirean | it |
| 19:49.08 | nahirean | its openssl-devel ;) |
| 19:49.16 | file | drumkilla: RUSSELLLLLLLL |
| 19:49.22 | twisted | ruh roh |
| 19:49.23 | twisted | file is on teh prow |
| 19:49.27 | twisted | s/prow/prowl |
| 19:49.38 | file | twisted: JOSHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 19:49.45 | drumkilla | Dr-Linux: I don't know anything about a "SIP buffer problem". |
| 19:49.50 | twisted | oh noes!!!11!11!1one!!1 |
| 19:54.05 | kink0 | I need a little help pls !! Only to know how to configure two pots in the event the first one is busy, call must be terminate ussing the second |
| 19:54.24 | Dr-Linux | benjk: what difference between polycom and cicso Hardphones regarding voice/qulity/sip/price? |
| 19:55.57 | benjk | again, that's a matter of preference/debate |
| 19:56.11 | Dr-Linux | :s |
| 19:56.22 | Dr-Linux | sorry, i don't understand |
| 19:56.24 | benjk | some folks like Cisco, some like Polycom |
| 19:56.30 | Chuji | You get more for your buck with Polycom |
| 19:56.32 | kapejod | some like Snom |
| 19:56.35 | kapejod | ;) |
| 19:56.48 | ikarus | Cisco likes to rape people on even the tiniest part |
| 19:57.04 | ikarus | (hrm, I shouldn't be saying that, doing CCNA exam tomorrow) |
| 19:57.07 | benjk | with Cisco you also pay for the name |
| 19:57.46 | kapejod | snom integrates best with *, regarding extension states and pickup |
| 19:57.50 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@cc341200-a.assen1.dr.home.nl) |
| 19:57.55 | Dr-Linux | hhm.. we have many other products from cisco |
| 19:58.06 | *** join/#asterisk Elven (i=elven@ptr-42.fw.swordcoast.net) |
| 19:58.12 | Elven | hi :) |
| 19:58.15 | Dr-Linux | Chuji: what is buck :S |
| 19:58.41 | ikarus | Dr-Linux: dollar |
| 19:58.43 | ikarus | $_$ |
| 19:58.45 | Dr-Linux | is it a ass pain ? :S |
| 19:58.48 | Dr-Linux | ooo ok ok sorry |
| 19:59.14 | ikarus | Dr-Linux: well, then it might be worth to use Cisco, even if just to have a single contact to bitch to if something malfunctions |
| 19:59.30 | ikarus | but Cisco phones are less suited for use with Asterisk and to me looked way over priced |
| 20:00.18 | ikarus | I worked once with them, they are certainly no better then most other phones |
| 20:00.35 | Elven | i've got a telephone installation which is connected to my ISDN provider, and to which normal phones are connected. * is connected to the t.i. via isdn/capi - how do i make asterisk accept internal calls, too (originating from the phones)? |
| 20:02.30 | Elven | i've got no clue about ISDN and internal calling; do i need to setup the t. installation to route numbers to a specific s0 bus address/port? |
| 20:03.10 | kapejod | if you want to keep your remaining hair you will forget about capi and use zaptel ;) |
| 20:03.21 | kapejod | (did i just say that loud?) |
| 20:04.47 | Elven | isn't zaptel something with which i connect phones to asterisk directly? |
| 20:05.02 | Elven | anyways, im using capi for dialout, too |
| 20:05.08 | twisted | well now |
| 20:05.10 | twisted | that was bizzare |
| 20:05.38 | MikeJ[Laptop] | no no no |
| 20:05.42 | MikeJ[Laptop] | you are bizzare |
| 20:05.44 | twisted | power went out to a large boom |
| 20:05.49 | twisted | now the fire alarm is going off |
| 20:05.58 | Chuji | no power right now/ |
| 20:06.03 | Chuji | or back on? |
| 20:06.05 | justinu | transformer blew up maybe |
| 20:06.08 | twisted | it's back on |
| 20:06.19 | twisted | but teh fire alarm is still going off |
| 20:06.33 | Chuji | terrorists |
| 20:06.37 | *** join/#asterisk ProN00b (n=dot@pD951BEDC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:06.50 | twisted | i'd go outside but it's freezing cold |
| 20:07.17 | Chuji | It's cold there? I would have thought it would have been warmer than it is here |
| 20:07.19 | twisted | so i'm gonna call the office instead |
| 20:07.31 | Chuji | It's like 60 here |
| 20:07.51 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hmmm |
| 20:07.55 | MikeJ[Laptop] | how cold? |
| 20:08.54 | twisted | brrrrrrrr |
| 20:09.01 | twisted | i had to go out to silence the alarm anyway |
| 20:09.08 | twisted | once i silenced it, i heard the ones from all the other buildings |
| 20:09.16 | twisted | lol |
| 20:09.48 | *** join/#asterisk kernoman (n=kernoman@82-33-9-8.cable.ubr14.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 20:10.23 | kernoman | hi, anyone willing to help me with the basic set up - i almost have no hair left.. |
| 20:10.43 | justinu | we take paypal |
| 20:11.01 | kernoman | hehe im a home user not a corporate |
| 20:11.31 | justinu | suuuuuure :P |
| 20:11.31 | justinu | :) |
| 20:11.31 | twisted | so? |
| 20:11.31 | twisted | we still take paypal |
| 20:11.31 | lunk | haha |
| 20:11.32 | kernoman | :) |
| 20:11.37 | kernoman | I giess the answer is no then.. |
| 20:11.54 | twisted | kernoman, no, we're giving you crap, because the general policy is ask your question, not ask to ask |
| 20:12.03 | kernoman | sorry newbie here |
| 20:12.27 | kernoman | irc newbie that is |
| 20:12.29 | twisted | s'ok, just ask your question |
| 20:13.09 | twisted | omg.. if i never hear danny devito say "penal code" with an emphasis on "penal" i'll die happy. |
| 20:13.27 | Chuji | asterisk newbie, irc newbie, linux newbie too? |
| 20:13.30 | twisted | insert an 'again' before "i'll" |
| 20:13.50 | kernoman | ok i have set up asterisk 1.2 and AMP and have set up one extension that goes to my xlite soft phone. I can log in with the softphone however when I ring it from another it always plays me the extension is busy message. i could do with an overview of what i need to set up |
| 20:14.11 | kernoman | no not linux newbie |
| 20:14.44 | *** join/#asterisk Tjief (i=Tjief@r0x0r.dk) |
| 20:15.24 | Dr-Linux | kernoman: check codecs setting |
| 20:15.41 | kernoman | ok ill give that a tonk a sec |
| 20:15.56 | Chuji | kernoman : Give 'sip debug' on the cli a shot too |
| 20:15.58 | Dr-Linux | i have same problem when i call justinu :) |
| 20:16.22 | *** join/#asterisk dudes (n=dudes@12-215-32-62.client.mchsi.com) |
| 20:16.30 | *** join/#asterisk Dutts (n=dutts@81.168.70.41) |
| 20:16.40 | Dr-Linux | ooo |
| 20:16.41 | Dr-Linux | justinu |
| 20:16.41 | *** part/#asterisk Dutts (n=dutts@81.168.70.41) |
| 20:17.12 | Dr-Linux | hhm.. |
| 20:17.31 | kink0 | is possible to route to another port if the default is busy ? |
| 20:18.58 | [TK]D-Fender | kink0 : What kind of port are you talking about? |
| 20:19.44 | kink0 | [TK]D-Fender, ie. if i have four FXO ussing 2 TDM400 cards, and I pretend to route to the PSTN all incoming voIP calls |
| 20:20.06 | tessier | What's that SIP header that tells other SIP proxies down the line to keep my sip proxy apprised of the state of the call? It basically causes other SIP packets to be routed through my proxy so I can keep track. |
| 20:20.08 | kink0 | and then the first one FXO is busy, how to do that these calls go to the next free FXO port |
| 20:20.15 | tessier | Record-Route |
| 20:20.16 | tessier | That's it. |
| 20:20.21 | kapejod | kink0: how about a group in zapata.conf? |
| 20:20.27 | [TK]D-Fender | kink0 : what kapejod said |
| 20:20.31 | kernoman | checked codecs and put in ulaw and alaw and it still comes back saying the person on extension 100 is on the phone -but im not? |
| 20:21.29 | [TK]D-Fender | put "group=1" into your channel def and make sure our dial string uses it like "exten _9x.,1,Dial(Zap/g1/${exten:1})" for example |
| 20:21.33 | kink0 | kapejod, I have not installed yet the TDM400 , so I have not yet zapata, I just install to evaluate ussing two soundcards and one modem port to dial to the PSTN |
| 20:22.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Modem port? Dear God what are you thinking that will do? |
| 20:22.06 | kapejod | kink0: what [TK]D-Fender said. |
| 20:22.08 | *** part/#asterisk ProN00b (n=dot@pD951BEDC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:22.34 | kapejod | hehe |
| 20:22.48 | *** join/#asterisk Rawplayer (n=kevin@ipc31055d2.oom-killer.org) |
| 20:23.33 | kernoman | anyone point me in the direction of a good howto that covers setting up asterisk with amp or just an overview of what happens when a call comes ina nd where it should be passed |
| 20:23.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Well I had a TDM22B with2 PSTN and use a PRI with * aat work. Line groups work quite well I find. nothing to evaluate really. |
| 20:24.29 | kink0 | [TK]D-Fender, nothing about this "modem port" is just for learn , I am newbie with asterisk, and was the only hard I had at hand to do a PSTN call |
| 20:24.46 | [TK]D-Fender | And can you actualyl PLACE a PSTN call with that setup? |
| 20:24.59 | kapejod | forget about chan_modem_* as fast as you can :) |
| 20:25.12 | kink0 | [TK]D-Fender, yes !!!!! runs fine :)) |
| 20:25.18 | [TK]D-Fender | *scary* |
| 20:25.28 | kink0 | yes... very scary, but... runs |
| 20:25.33 | [TK]D-Fender | * is worth buying hardware for.... |
| 20:25.39 | kink0 | at least help me to learn more about asterisk |
| 20:25.51 | *** join/#asterisk nahirean (n=nahirean@pool-70-111-149-242.nwrk.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:25.53 | [TK]D-Fender | You can do it in pure VoIP too you know... just read up on it |
| 20:26.06 | kink0 | [TK]D-Fender, I am seeking what hard to buy, sheduled is a StarGate or Teles gateway |
| 20:26.21 | kink0 | that are expansive ( over 15k USD ) hardwares |
| 20:26.37 | kapejod | what a waste of money. |
| 20:27.01 | kink0 | [TK]D-Fender, I need to terminate to the GSM, not PSTN, that is the reason I try ASterisk and do not buy yet any TDM |
| 20:27.12 | [TK]D-Fender | kink0 : What dos this 15k USD device DO that you could need? |
| 20:27.16 | kink0 | kapejod, yes, but there any alternative ?? |
| 20:27.21 | [TK]D-Fender | EEK |
| 20:27.36 | tzanger | ...?? |
| 20:27.40 | tzanger | GSM Zaptel card? |
| 20:27.44 | kapejod | sure thing |
| 20:27.49 | tzanger | kapejod: link? |
| 20:27.58 | kapejod | <advertisement>http://www.sboost.org/~kapejod/media.html?mediafile=new/wambot3.jpg&x=600</advertisement> |
| 20:28.05 | kink0 | [TK]D-Fender, they have 6 ( Teles ) or 8 ( StarGate ) SIM per channel, 32 channels per rack, and interface to PRI or voIP, that is all this does |
| 20:28.39 | tzanger | kapejod: so that's a 4 port GSM gateway? |
| 20:28.43 | kink0 | ahh ok, also does a LCR and a detailled configuration including limit per minutes, per calls, etc. |
| 20:28.52 | kapejod | tzanger: no, it's just a four channel gsm pci card |
| 20:28.57 | kernoman | can anyone point me in the direction of a good asterisk overview so I can find out what the heck I am meant to do to get this working? |
| 20:29.00 | tzanger | the res isn't high enough to pick out the motorola modules |
| 20:29.15 | *** join/#asterisk santiago (n=santiago@208.195.215.124) |
| 20:29.16 | tzanger | GSM as in cellular network... very interesting |
| 20:29.18 | kapejod | kink0: it's only 2 SIMs per channel right now (but 1 is swappable) |
| 20:29.26 | tzanger | kapejod: your design? |
| 20:29.31 | kapejod | yes sir. |
| 20:29.35 | tzanger | very cool |
| 20:29.46 | kapejod | thank you, sir. |
| 20:29.50 | tzanger | what are you using for the PCI interface? |
| 20:29.53 | [TK]D-Fender | kink0 : were you planning that setup for your company? |
| 20:29.56 | twisted | don't those modules generate some heat? |
| 20:29.57 | kink0 | kapejod, very interesting !!!! yes !!!! |
| 20:30.04 | kink0 | [TK]D-Fender, Spain |
| 20:30.12 | kapejod | tzanger: guess what? ;) |
| 20:30.13 | tzanger | kapejod: any idea on a CDMA version? :-) |
| 20:30.20 | kapejod | twisted: not at all |
| 20:30.26 | [TK]D-Fender | The whole county? I don't think * would scale well to that size ;) |
| 20:30.29 | kapejod | twisted: does your cell phone burn your ear? |
| 20:30.30 | twisted | kapejod, really? nice. |
| 20:30.31 | kink0 | kapejod, we can swap manually , since every one SIM plan may have a lot of minutes. |
| 20:30.36 | twisted | kapejod, yes, actually, it does at times. |
| 20:30.50 | kapejod | hehe |
| 20:30.56 | kink0 | kapejod, do you recomend to use your cards and Asterisk ? |
| 20:30.57 | tzanger | I don't see the chip, but I see what looks like a BGA via pattern near the middle, so I'm assuming you're using a decently-large FPGA that's mounted on the back |
| 20:31.13 | kapejod | kink0: of course not. ;) |
| 20:31.17 | Dr-Linux | benjk: as i explain you my setup, what you recommend for US asterisk system? ram/processor/hdd etc ? |
| 20:31.21 | kink0 | ooopsss !! |
| 20:31.22 | kapejod | tzanger: bingo |
| 20:31.32 | tzanger | <-- hardware desginer |
| 20:31.34 | kapejod | and it spits out h.100 too and stuff |
| 20:31.44 | tzanger | very impressive. When is this hitting the market? |
| 20:31.45 | kapejod | also you might wonder where the SIMs are ;) |
| 20:31.51 | Dr-Linux | hey tzanger :) how are you |
| 20:31.55 | kapejod | december or january |
| 20:32.07 | tzanger | very cool. Ahh you work for/with Junghanns |
| 20:32.10 | kapejod | it's working fine however |
| 20:32.18 | kapejod | tzanger: yes, sir. i am junghanns ;) |
| 20:32.26 | tzanger | I was very eager to get a quadBRI but they're just too damn expensive. :-( EUR$600 |
| 20:32.36 | kink0 | kapejod, 900/1800 for Europe ? |
| 20:32.36 | tzanger | was hoping to play with it with a norstar |
| 20:32.38 | kapejod | just wait ;) |
| 20:32.49 | kapejod | kink0: will be quad band too |
| 20:32.59 | tzanger | oh you are junghanns. :-) |
| 20:33.01 | twisted | yeah, kapejod, will it operate on US GSM? |
| 20:33.05 | kapejod | sure |
| 20:33.06 | tzanger | GSM is GSM |
| 20:33.11 | kink0 | Warning: getimagesize(): Read error! in /home/kapejod/public_html/media.html on line 15 |
| 20:33.14 | twisted | tzanger, except for the frequencies ;) |
| 20:33.21 | ikarus | twisted: different frequencies |
| 20:33.22 | tzanger | it's totally unlike CDMA which is so shitty you can't transfer phones between carriers |
| 20:33.23 | kink0 | kapejod, can you send me full doc and prices ? |
| 20:33.28 | kapejod | kink0: http://www.sboost.org/~kapejod/media.html?mediafile=new/wambot3.jpg&x=600 |
| 20:33.32 | twisted | ikarus, no shit sherlock :) |
| 20:33.44 | ikarus | twisted: I mis hit the person to annoy |
| 20:33.49 | twisted | ikarus, :P |
| 20:33.53 | kapejod | kink0: can you please send an emal to sales@junghanns.net? :) |
| 20:35.05 | kink0 | kapejod, sent !! |
| 20:35.11 | kapejod | thank you :) |
| 20:35.41 | *** join/#asterisk thereza (i=reza@abort.boom.net) |
| 20:36.01 | thereza | can someoen give a url to a faq on getting setup? |
| 20:36.01 | justinu | kapejod: GPRS modem also? |
| 20:36.07 | ikarus | Hmmmm, reminds me, I need to finish working out my quadBRI PCI card (sorry folk, but the price of Junghanns is just unacceptable) and more importantly single and quadBRI external box (Ethernet connected, prolly IAX and SIP) |
| 20:36.13 | kapejod | justinu: on my to do list, including gsm data and sms |
| 20:36.16 | thereza | well, more like a howto |
| 20:36.20 | justinu | kapejod: sweet |
| 20:36.53 | kapejod | ikarus: that depends |
| 20:37.02 | Dr-Linux | tzanger: i will have a server in US having totall 300 users, PRI/T1 8 to 10 calls will be at same time, what system you recommend ? ram/processor/hdd etc ? |
| 20:37.15 | tzanger | Dr-Linux: how long have you been using Asterisk? |
| 20:37.51 | *** join/#asterisk gruenspan (n=fungi@p54924621.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:37.56 | twisted | *sigh* |
| 20:38.01 | twisted | it's gonna rain |
| 20:38.03 | justinu | i'm looking at the hp dl360 for my deployment |
| 20:38.03 | twisted | i can feel it. |
| 20:38.07 | kapejod | ikarus: "overpriced" quadBRIs pay for BRIstuff development , allowing other people to develop lower priced quadBRIS ;) |
| 20:38.21 | ikarus | kapejod: nah, I am not using the identical chips |
| 20:38.35 | kink0 | kapejod, does your cards works directly with asterisk ? even with zaptel drivers or propietary drivers ? |
| 20:38.49 | kapejod | kink0: open source drivers, the bristuff package |
| 20:39.07 | tzanger | kapejod: when I can purchase a single-span T1/E1 card for US$500 from several vendors then yes, I do believe the QuadBRI is a tad on the pricey side... |
| 20:39.57 | kink0 | kapejod, ahh perfect !! I was working about to do a calling account and enable/disable SIM/channel based on CDR |
| 20:40.04 | kapejod | tzanger: well, we actually took the effort and got our hard- and software certified (TRB3, TRB3A1) |
| 20:40.04 | Dr-Linux | tzanger: i used it last year only for a week then i left, now i saw it again three weeks ago. :S |
| 20:40.41 | kapejod | tzanger: certifications are a pricey hobby :) |
| 20:40.43 | tzanger | Dr-Linux: you need more experience before deploying such a system. You don't come in and ask what kind of processor is required, it clearly indicates you haven't done your homework. |
| 20:40.51 | tzanger | kapejod: yes, certifications *are* damn expensive I agree. |
| 20:41.14 | tzanger | I'm doing a protocol gateway that involves DeviceNet, ProfiBus, Ethernet/IP and CanOPEN. The certification costs are astronomical |
| 20:41.19 | kapejod | tzanger: we also include free installation support (not 1 hour of free support) |
| 20:41.21 | ikarus | kapejod: I am not saying your product is bad, it is just not suited for the market I usually deal with (small buisnesses with 2 or 3 ISDN BRI's) |
| 20:41.33 | tzanger | UL/cUL/CE are nothing in comparison |
| 20:42.05 | kapejod | it's designed and used a lot for businesses with 2 or 3 BRIs |
| 20:42.13 | kink0 | kapejod, can I send you private chat query ? |
| 20:42.19 | kapejod | kink0: sure. |
| 20:42.23 | kink0 | thanks |
| 20:42.48 | ikarus | kapejod: I am talking about companies that choose BudeTone VoIP phones |
| 20:42.52 | kapejod | tzanger: of course it cant compare pricewise with 3 zaphfc cards |
| 20:42.56 | tzanger | kapejod: I can certainly appreciate what you're saying, and I'm not at all saying the QuadBRI's a terrible bit of hardware, because that is simply not the case. I'm just saying EUR$600 to experiment with some BRI channels isn't possible for many... I do also realize that my particular needs are completely different from your typical customer. The certifications dont' do a thing for me. :-) |
| 20:43.46 | kapejod | tzanger: you can experiment with the hfc-pci cards (eur 20). configuration is identically :-) |
| 20:44.08 | tzanger | kapejod: yes I think I just discovered that, I thought the HFC cards had firmware that would interfere with what I was doing |
| 20:44.12 | rajiv | why would i get an echo on a call that is going sipphone->*->iax to voipjet |
| 20:44.29 | Dr-Linux | tzanger: thanks for you great help, i really appritiate your concern |
| 20:44.47 | tzanger | rajiv: because the delay between you and VoipJet's termination is enough and the reflected energy off the far-end set is high enough ot cause echo ot be heard |
| 20:45.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Dr-Linux : lets see if I can answer it for you : 300 user, 1 PRI (23 channel) and you want to know what kind of server you'll need? |
| 20:45.29 | rajiv | tzanger: this is new to me... any hints on fixing this ? |
| 20:46.04 | tzanger | rajiv: not really... there is no echo cancellation in iax/sip since they're assuming 4-wire circuits |
| 20:46.48 | tzanger | voipjet should have echo cancellers in their TDM hopoff, but they may not |
| 20:49.00 | rajiv | it doesn't happen all the time. |
| 20:49.01 | rajiv | odd |
| 20:49.06 | Dr-Linux | [TK]D-Fender: yes, but if my question is wrong please ignore |
| 20:49.57 | tzanger | rajiv: same # or different #s |
| 20:50.15 | rajiv | same # |
| 20:50.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Dr-Linux : I dont't find it "wrong" You are expecting that 1 PRI is enough for your company's needs? |
| 20:50.29 | rajiv | tzanger: same everything. hang up, dial again, no echo |
| 20:50.32 | tzanger | Dr-Linux: you have not told us anything about what will be running there besides asterisk... no codecs, no IVRs or other audio processing, no echo cancellation data, nothing. |
| 20:50.36 | kapejod | the whole echo cancelation issues get worse since more and more people are getting inbound voip numbers and connect crappy (echo generating) equipment to theri SIP atas ;) |
| 20:50.43 | tzanger | rajiv: could be a funky port on voipjet's side |
| 20:50.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Dr-Linux : what kind of phones do you plan on using? |
| 20:51.01 | Dr-Linux | [TK]D-Fender: yes |
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| 20:51.49 | Dr-Linux | tzanger: you didn't ask that, you said something else that made me feel, i don't deserve to use these things |
| 20:51.58 | tzanger | kapejod: which is why it should be law that any TDM hopoff have decent echo cancellation hardware on it :-) |
| 20:52.07 | tzanger | Dr-Linux: no, that's not what I meant by my answer |
| 20:52.18 | Dr-Linux | sorry but my bad english, i'm just trying to keep up |
| 20:52.42 | tzanger | my answer was essentially "It's clear that you have not yet done your homework on using Asterisk, so why should I help you other than to direct you to the normal information stores?" |
| 20:52.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Dr-Linux : no problem on language, just fallow with me and I'll try to answer your questions for you. So again, what kind of phones do you expect to use? |
| 20:53.03 | kapejod | tzanger: well it gets very difficult to cancle the echo if it hops off to another pstn gateway that delivers the call over the interet to an echo source |
| 20:53.21 | tzanger | Dr-Linux: I enjoy helping people, but your question is clearly the result of a lack of research in my opinion. For newbie help, I often refer people to the wiki, the asteirsk handbook PDF, asteriskdocs.org and the mailing lists. |
| 20:53.30 | Dr-Linux | <tzanger> Dr-Linux: you need more experience before deploying such a system. You don't come in and ask what kind of processor is required, it clearly indicates you haven't done your homework. |
| 20:53.50 | Dr-Linux | i was just going to do >> rm -rvf /* |
| 20:53.57 | justinu | lol |
| 20:55.09 | *** part/#asterisk santiago (n=santiago@208.195.215.124) |
| 20:55.18 | tzanger | Dr-Linux: I said you didn't do your homework, not that you can't possibly set up such a system so erase it! |
| 20:55.31 | justinu | lol |
| 20:56.07 | chapeaurouge | what's the variable that holds the number of tries a user can have to dial an extension, until (s)he gets kicked out, or whatever? |
| 20:56.24 | justinu | dr-linux has a tough time in english... it's not so much lack of research, it's just knowing where to look and what search terms to use |
| 20:56.43 | rajiv | tzanger: k thx |
| 20:57.19 | [TK]D-Fender | chapeaurouge : there isn't really a variable like that. PM tthe goal you're trying to accomplish and I'll see what I can advise |
| 20:57.22 | tzanger | Ich sprect nicht gut Detusch... :-) |
| 20:57.39 | kapejod | and you also dont type well ;-P |
| 20:57.41 | tzanger | as that probably makes everyone aware :-) |
| 20:57.43 | tzanger | hehehe |
| 20:57.45 | chapeaurouge | lol |
| 20:59.13 | gruenspan | tzanger, macht ja nix ;) |
| 21:00.21 | tzanger | I don't speak any German? :-) |
| 21:00.28 | tzanger | "make that none" ? |
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| 21:00.43 | gruenspan | it doesnt matter |
| 21:01.29 | kapejod | tzanger: your german is like my h.323 ;) |
| 21:01.33 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 21:01.34 | gruenspan | hehe |
| 21:01.54 | kapejod | btw, any opinions on the new h323 stuff in 1.2.0? |
| 21:02.20 | gruenspan | use sip where you can |
| 21:02.27 | kapejod | of course |
| 21:02.35 | kapejod | i use iax2 where i can |
| 21:02.36 | Qwell | and use sip everywhere else |
| 21:03.02 | kapejod | but sometimes carriers insist on h323 |
| 21:03.11 | Qwell | find different carriers. :p |
| 21:03.16 | gruenspan | :) |
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| 21:03.44 | *** part/#asterisk QbY (n=QbY@adsl-068-209-210-253.sip.cha.bellsouth.net) |
| 21:04.27 | elmar69 | What did change for SIP configuration in 1.2? |
| 21:04.29 | elmar69 | After upgrade I get an Error 400 back. |
| 21:13.38 | [TK]D-Fender | :O |
| 21:14.49 | kapejod | cheers! |
| 21:14.52 | tzanger | in a moment |
| 21:14.57 | tzanger | eating liverwurse sandwiches right now |
| 21:15.06 | chapeaurouge | cheers :) |
| 21:15.18 | chapeaurouge | Gesundheit :) |
| 21:15.36 | kapejod | Gesundheit? |
| 21:15.48 | chapeaurouge | yea. in German |
| 21:15.50 | kapejod | you say that if somebody sneezes |
| 21:15.59 | chapeaurouge | i also say it when cheering |
| 21:16.03 | gruenspan | not anymore |
| 21:16.11 | chapeaurouge | ah |
| 21:16.27 | chapeaurouge | what do u say now? Prost? |
| 21:16.32 | kapejod | Vogelgrippe! |
| 21:16.34 | kapejod | ;) |
| 21:16.35 | gruenspan | hehe |
| 21:16.36 | chapeaurouge | lol |
| 21:16.49 | gruenspan | you just say nothing |
| 21:17.16 | chapeaurouge | hmmmk |
| 21:17.37 | kapejod | "Prost" will do fine. |
| 21:17.39 | tzanger | yeah gezundheit is what I say when someone sneezes |
| 21:18.05 | chapeaurouge | well me too... but to me, it also hold when cheering.. bleh. Just like in French basically |
| 21:18.09 | kapejod | you can also say "Aufwischen" when somebody sneezes ;) |
| 21:18.10 | ikarus | and that goes for Dutch aswell :) |
| 21:18.21 | chapeaurouge | luxemburgish too .. hehehe |
| 21:18.29 | tzanger | aufwischen? |
| 21:18.36 | kapejod | yes |
| 21:18.40 | kapejod | "clean it up" |
| 21:18.53 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 21:19.05 | gruenspan | mop it up :) |
| 21:19.05 | ikarus | chapeaurouge: that is no language, that is an accident |
| 21:19.08 | tzanger | I say something similar when someone cuts a wet fart |
| 21:19.18 | chapeaurouge | ikarus, luxie? lol... agreed |
| 21:19.26 | tzanger | "I don't care if that was just a fart or not, it sounded like you need to wipe" |
| 21:19.31 | chapeaurouge | heh |
| 21:19.52 | ikarus | chapeaurouge: literally an accident as in "oh, it became a country because we lacked a male successor" |
| 21:20.13 | gruenspan | hrhr |
| 21:20.25 | chapeaurouge | it's funny though how they look at your weird when you speak french... |
| 21:20.36 | chapeaurouge | so I say... Moien! then start in english or french |
| 21:20.45 | tzanger | chapeaurouge: I'm sorry but in New Orleans that ain't French :-) |
| 21:20.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Va t'ens mes osties! |
| 21:20.51 | [TK]D-Fender | ;P |
| 21:20.53 | chapeaurouge | lol |
| 21:20.58 | nahirean | Hello folks. I have a compiled Asterisk server, with a account that's working fine.. how to I point it to send calls to my Sipura 2002 adapter? |
| 21:21.17 | chapeaurouge | tzanger, i know man. lived in Louisiana for about 7yrs |
| 21:21.20 | gruenspan | i suggest to rtfm |
| 21:21.41 | tzanger | mind you the province beside me (Quebec) does not actually speak French either :-) |
| 21:21.48 | chapeaurouge | lol |
| 21:21.58 | chapeaurouge | tzanger, where in QC? |
| 21:22.07 | tzanger | anywhere in QC |
| 21:22.10 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger ... I think I'm qualified to beg to differ with regards to Quebec.... *ahem* |
| 21:22.15 | chapeaurouge | lol |
| 21:22.20 | [TK]D-Fender | :D |
| 21:22.25 | chapeaurouge | ill soon be moving to QC so... |
| 21:22.26 | chapeaurouge | heh |
| 21:22.33 | chapeaurouge | Tabernacle! |
| 21:23.04 | tzanger | chapeaurouge: just "Tabernac!" |
| 21:23.45 | tzanger | just get a gravelly voice like you've been chain-smoking for 30 years, say "uh....." between every 3rd word and you'll do fine :-) |
| 21:23.52 | chapeaurouge | lol |
| 21:24.09 | tzanger | because I don't do it intentionally |
| 21:24.19 | tzanger | I pick it up when I hear it.. .same with my Pittsburgh accent |
| 21:24.33 | chapeaurouge | yea, i know what u mean |
| 21:25.20 | tzanger | I think that's how I'll die... someone is gonna kill me because they think I am mocking them |
| 21:25.23 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm an alien.... I'm a legal alian.... I'm an englihman in quebec :) |
| 21:25.44 | gruenspan | lol |
| 21:25.45 | [TK]D-Fender | And my typing skill are degrading but the character :D |
| 21:26.25 | *** part/#asterisk newsmafia (n=newsmafi@wsip-68-15-19-142.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 21:27.25 | justinu | "someone said alien; she thought they said illegal alien and signed right up!" |
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| 21:36.00 | theblue | Hi all. |
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| 21:49.00 | patpatnz | hi guys |
| 21:49.15 | patpatnz | does anyone know how to disable the jitter buffer? |
| 21:49.24 | patpatnz | (aka the smoother |
| 21:50.00 | patpatnz | for sip channels |
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| 21:52.14 | Segora | What does asterisk want to tell me with this 'interesting' sequence of console output lines? Ooh, format changed from unknown to ulaw \\ Oooh, format changed to 2 \\ Ooh, format changed from ulaw to gsm (Asterisk 1.0.7 on Nokia 770, which is an ARM9 device) |
| 21:54.33 | patpatnz | Segora, I see that a lot if your playing stuff back and it's in a different format to the channel default |
| 21:55.34 | patpatnz | As long as your audo carries on it should be okay :) |
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| 21:56.52 | Rav1974 | is there a way to control iax failover? limit retries of a failed server? |
| 21:57.21 | Segora | patpatnz: hmm. The problem is I don't hear anything. Checked the packet trace, the is an RTP stream going to the phone but no sound can be heard. |
| 21:59.46 | Segora | ethereal rtp analysis shows that the stream from asterisk to the phone is broken (a few packets about every half-second) |
| 22:00.55 | X-Files | Have users where worked *8 (pickupexten) in features (asterisk 1.2.0) ??? |
| 22:01.21 | X-Files | Have users where worked *8 (pickupexten) in features (asterisk 1.2.0 protocol SIP) ??? |
| 22:01.30 | Segora | does anyone know if asterisk works at all on arm processors? The problems I found when checking iax looked like endianness errors |
| 22:04.08 | Rav1974 | is there a way to control iax failover? limit retries of a failed server? |
| 22:04.22 | Rav1974 | please I really need help |
| 22:04.46 | patpatnz | Segora, it might not |
| 22:06.19 | Segora | seems I have mis-analyzed the RTP stream. Asterisk sends about ten packets which look fine, afterwards, it sends RTP packets marked as RTP version 0, which ethereal doesn't know how to decode. Funny. |
| 22:07.27 | Segora | Well, if yate compiles in scratchbox, I'll try that. It's more of a toy project anyway - who needs a PBX in his back pocket anyway. ;) |
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| 22:13.46 | X-Files | twisted: pickupexten worked in cvs ? |
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| 22:16.18 | X-Files | drumkilla: pickupexten worked in cvs ? |
| 22:21.22 | X-Files | fuck :( why *8 not work ??? Invalid extension '*' in context 'sip_local' on SIP/2-b6e7 |
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| 22:29.29 | Corydon76-home | *8 only works on Zap channels. For other types of channels, you need to specify that in the dialplan |
| 22:30.55 | test34 | I dont need the zapata library for x100p, only zaptel right ? |
| 22:31.30 | X-Files | Corydon76-home: heya, hm, and i can't use in SIP ? |
| 22:31.56 | endre | it works for me with SIP's, without specifying in the dialplan |
| 22:32.09 | X-Files | ender: hey |
| 22:32.11 | tzanger | ok Bullworth's almost over and I still have one question |
| 22:32.17 | ender | X-Files: hrm? |
| 22:32.17 | X-Files | ender: u use from cvs or 1.2.0 ? |
| 22:32.22 | tzanger | why the hell did he want to hire a hitman to kill himself at the start? |
| 22:32.23 | endre | cvs |
| 22:32.26 | blop | how can i reset the config of a iaxy ? i see what seems to be a reset button but cannot fix the prob |
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| 22:32.36 | ender | X-Files: ender != endre (: |
| 22:32.39 | endre | lol |
| 22:32.42 | X-Files | sorry :) |
| 22:32.49 | ender | no worries |
| 22:33.10 | endre | endre is my surname |
| 22:34.57 | chapeaurouge | gn all |
| 22:39.43 | Cybertoy | I'm looking for DID in Goiania, Brazil ... anyone know a company that sells those? |
| 22:41.59 | twisted | Corydon76-home, wrong, works fine in sip. |
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| 22:49.32 | wunderkin | wow anthm is ahead of the game :P |
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| 22:52.17 | file | BORIS |
| 22:52.56 | wunderkin | well there go the stats on the pris |
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| 22:54.58 | Gennnaro | hi |
| 22:55.19 | Gennnaro | some one can help me with fxo, & music on hold? |
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| 23:09.15 | twisted | what's the difference between a pro gamer and a programmer? |
| 23:09.16 | Gennaro | hi |
| 23:09.33 | X-Files | twisted: hey, *8 work in protocol SIP ? |
| 23:09.42 | twisted | X-Files, yes. |
| 23:09.48 | Gennaro | someone can say me how configure a x100p to get incoming call? |
| 23:10.18 | Gennaro | come one can say me why i dont hear music on * |
| 23:10.22 | X-Files | twisted: hmm interesting, me not work, i see error: -- Invalid extension '*' in context 'sip_local' on SIP/2-a1e5 |
| 23:10.31 | twisted | then fix your phone's config |
| 23:10.47 | twisted | it's sending * instead of *8 |
| 23:10.54 | Gennaro | i see that's a prob related that i didn't purcase and digum interface.. |
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| 23:11.23 | X-Files | twisted: i dial *8, and see error |
| 23:11.25 | dudes | twisted - How's the t38 stuff coming |
| 23:11.35 | Gennaro | in what kind of way |
| 23:11.36 | twisted | X-Files, again, fix your phone's config. |
| 23:11.41 | iDunno | *8 works for us :) |
| 23:11.41 | twisted | dudes, i don't know. |
| 23:11.54 | Gennaro | asterisk know how many card are installed on pbx? |
| 23:12.20 | dudes | twisted - I thought you were working on that |
| 23:12.26 | twisted | dudes, no |
| 23:12.35 | X-Files | twisted: where fix ? i read from voip.com and configure * , maybe i can send how my configure files ? in DCC send ? |
| 23:12.47 | twisted | X-Files, your PHONE. NOT asterisk. |
| 23:13.00 | Dr_Ray | so, side question (slightly off topic) there is a DC -48 volt connecter on my channel bank. What would that device be called if I wanted to buy one at greybar? |
| 23:13.01 | X-Files | twisted: i use analog phone |
| 23:13.16 | X-Files | twisted: and analog FXO and FXS gateway |
| 23:13.20 | twisted | X-Files, not if you're getting SIP/2-a1e5 you're not. you're using a sip device. |
| 23:13.47 | X-Files | twisted: sip use gateway |
| 23:13.52 | twisted | so fix it. |
| 23:14.18 | [TK]D-Fender | *sigh* feel the love in here.... |
| 23:14.22 | X-Files | ah this problem... |
| 23:14.41 | X-Files | twisted: thanky |
| 23:14.52 | twisted | mmmhmm |
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| 23:16.15 | theblue | ? |
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| 23:17.10 | Gennaro | i have registred 2 phone |
| 23:17.22 | Gennaro | and i done a extension for call it |
| 23:17.37 | Gennaro | how can i do to use an fxo to get call? |
| 23:17.41 | Gennaro | on a menu |
| 23:17.52 | Gennaro | and so call the right phone? |
| 23:17.58 | X-Files | twisted: i remove dial_in plar automatical call to asterisk, i now try call (988 this asterisk answer()) "988*8" , i see again problem -- Executing Answer("SIP/2-ce07", "") in new stack and -- Invalid extension '*' in context 'sip_local' on SIP/2-ce07 |
| 23:18.35 | X-Files | removed dial_in plar from gateway |
| 23:19.50 | twisted | i have no idea what you're doing there... |
| 23:21.21 | twisted | it should be *8 by itself, and it's only good if there is a call coming into another phone in your callgroup, and your sip peer is in the same pickupgroup as the call in the callgroup |
| 23:22.28 | X-Files | yep |
| 23:22.33 | X-Files | i now understand |
| 23:23.18 | X-Files | found where problem, i need add to dial plar : Telelphone Number *8 connecting to asterisk |
| 23:23.28 | X-Files | its work |
| 23:24.28 | X-Files | twisted: very very big thanks |
| 23:24.53 | twisted | np.. i may come off bad, but hopefully I force people to learn :) |
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| 23:26.32 | lesouvage | Can somebody please look at http://pastebin.ca/29797 . It's about jumpng to the +101 priority in case voipbuster is not available so the call will be made using another voip account. |
| 23:26.35 | Gennaro | .. some one say me something about? |
| 23:27.06 | kapejod | lesouvage: wouldnt it jump to +101 if the called party is busy? |
| 23:27.50 | lesouvage | kapejod: yes there is no jump to the +101 priority |
| 23:27.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Yes... twisted's nick is by no means self-explanitory ;) |
| 23:28.12 | twisted | huh? |
| 23:28.23 | kapejod | lesouvage: of course not. if voipbuster is down it will not jump to +101 |
| 23:28.26 | [TK]D-Fender | you = evil <- ;) |
| 23:28.31 | twisted | oh |
| 23:28.32 | twisted | heh |
| 23:28.48 | kapejod | lesouvage: depending on your breed of * (or bristuff) it will do nothing (or jump to +201) |
| 23:31.19 | kapejod | lesouvage: with plain * you will need to use the DIALSTATUS chan var |
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| 23:32.37 | lesouvage | kapejod: thanks I look into it. |
| 23:32.38 | Gennaro | how should configure x100p to get call? |
| 23:34.23 | lesouvage | Gennaro: wait a moment, I paste zaptel and zapata.conf to pastebin.ca |
| 23:35.11 | Gennaro | realy tanx |
| 23:38.31 | Gennaro | lesouvage, can u explane me the thing..? for configuration i'll study.. but i cant understand the mechanism... |
| 23:38.46 | Gennaro | of samething.. |
| 23:40.03 | Gennaro | i opend zaptel but i didnt found wcfxo |
| 23:40.08 | Gennaro | for exsample |
| 23:40.32 | Gennaro | but if i use modproble xcfxo |
| 23:40.35 | Gennaro | works |
| 23:40.39 | Gennaro | so.. |
| 23:41.06 | Gennaro | i cant understand on what tty he find the card |
| 23:41.41 | Gennaro | for example if i have 2 line on 1 idsn and 1 analoge line |
| 23:41.46 | X-Files | twisted: i can pickup in asterisk ? |
| 23:42.28 | Gennaro | how can i do to to let a call be get from an user and how the line can be assigned in out from a "pool".. |
| 23:42.42 | Gennaro | for example... |
| 23:42.52 | Gennaro | @ my work |
| 23:42.59 | Gennaro | i have a pbx |
| 23:43.04 | Gennaro | that works so.. |
| 23:43.15 | Gennaro | we have a trunk of 30 lines.. |
| 23:43.21 | Gennaro | and 70 phone.. |
| 23:43.31 | Gennaro | incoming call arrive on group.. |
| 23:44.04 | Gennaro | every int is accessible form ext |
| 23:44.05 | lesouvage | Gennaro: look at http://pastebin.ca/29803 I think you can get it work with this. |
| 23:44.45 | Gennaro | and in outcoming call 1 line is picked to call, from pool |
| 23:44.58 | Gennaro | i'd like to configure so.. |
| 23:45.13 | Gennaro | tanx lesouvage |
| 23:47.02 | Gennaro | what do u tink about this configuration.. |
| 23:47.14 | Gennaro | i work in a firm with 2 stable.. |
| 23:47.23 | Gennaro | i have 1 pbx in 1° |
| 23:47.47 | Gennaro | that have internal numer from 100 to 200 |
| 23:47.55 | Gennaro | and the 2° pbx |
| 23:48.03 | Gennaro | have numer from 100 to 200 |
| 23:48.35 | Gennaro | to call 103 for 2° stable we need to to *30103 |
| 23:48.47 | Gennaro | it is correct? |
| 23:48.51 | Gennaro | or is correct |
| 23:48.59 | Gennaro | assign 100-200 in 1 |
| 23:49.06 | Gennaro | and 200-300 in 2 |
| 23:49.26 | Gennaro | so with extension i already know where phone is.. |
| 23:51.06 | lesouvage | Gennaro: http://geekgazette.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=2 is a link to a site where you can legaly download "the future of telephony". It's a very easy to read book about asterisk and what is wise and not wise. I reccomment reading the book first before setting up two asterisk boxes for 200 extensions. |
| 23:52.15 | Gennaro | realy tanx |
| 23:52.26 | Gennaro | but what do u belive about? |
| 23:52.59 | Gennaro | becouse we a have a lot of problem with the firm who seld us pbxs |
| 23:56.38 | Sedorox | I would just get on the firm and have them fix it up |
| 23:59.15 | Gennaro | that true but my firm want That OUT! |
| 23:59.45 | Gennaro | becouse want do it with open source project. |
