| 00:00.05 | m160858 | exists E1 |
| 00:00.14 | dudes | then use a E1 |
| 00:00.24 | m160858 | but that it's not what i want |
| 00:00.43 | m160858 | i want to change that panasonic by one asterisk |
| 00:01.10 | mog_home | then you have to change phones |
| 00:03.08 | Qwell[] | unless they are actually analog |
| 00:03.17 | Qwell[] | which I doubt, if they're for a pbx |
| 00:03.32 | robl^ | Panasonic? KX-T series? |
| 00:03.49 | robl^ | or DBS? |
| 00:04.18 | m160858 | if i use SPA 2000 ? |
| 00:05.24 | m160858 | i have to change, anyway? |
| 00:05.29 | robl^ | panasonic PBX phones will only work with panasonic.. though some of the panasomic KX-T series switches would let you use generic analog phones |
| 00:06.56 | m160858 | ok ok, i got it |
| 00:07.11 | robl^ | I used to have a Panasonic KX-TD816 before I switched it over to Asterisk |
| 00:09.35 | Dr-Linux | can we load directly 7.4 firmware on cisco 7960/7940 new phones? |
| 00:09.36 | *** join/#asterisk NewSole2 (n=dave@d38-53-48.commercial1.cgocable.net) |
| 00:10.31 | Qwell[] | Dr-Linux: depends |
| 00:11.25 | *** join/#asterisk hhoffman (n=hhoffman@tor/session/x-63590164d2d0e87c) |
| 00:12.07 | Dr-Linux | Qwell[]: depends on what? |
| 00:12.12 | hhoffman | I'm getting this error, any ideas? requested/capability 0x8/0x8 incompatible with our capability 0xf806 |
| 00:12.19 | Qwell[] | Dr-Linux: what firmware it already has |
| 00:12.48 | Dr-Linux | Qwell: i has no sip firmware yet |
| 00:13.03 | Dr-Linux | Qwell[]: they are new phones |
| 00:13.04 | Qwell[] | Dr-Linux: find the firmware upgrade matrix on cisco.com |
| 00:13.58 | Dr-Linux | Qwell[]: i found all and download all version of sip firmware from cisco , |
| 00:14.15 | Dr-Linux | but someone told me, i can't install 7.4 directly, |
| 00:14.19 | Qwell[] | Dr-Linux: the firmware upgrade matrix tells you the exact steps to go through to upgrade from each version, to each other version |
| 00:14.31 | Qwell[] | find that, and all your problems will be solved |
| 00:14.50 | Dr-Linux | oooic |
| 00:15.01 | Dr-Linux | actually i don't know what is matrix |
| 00:15.05 | Dr-Linux | but lets try to ask google |
| 00:15.07 | Qwell[] | just google it |
| 00:15.18 | Qwell[] | firmware upgrade matrix site:cisco.com |
| 00:15.46 | Qwell[] | http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/c_ipphon/english/ipp7960/addprot/mgcp/frmwrup.htm#wp1053742 |
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| 00:16.00 | Qwell[] | If they're new, chances are they're running sccp 3.x |
| 00:16.12 | Qwell[] | So, you'll want Procedure C |
| 00:16.42 | Dr-Linux | hm. let me check the link |
| 00:16.51 | IronHelix | dr-linux |
| 00:16.54 | Qwell[] | specifically, look at the part where it talks about the Universal Application Loader |
| 00:16.59 | IronHelix | you got signed off talk |
| 00:17.16 | Qwell[] | That *will* allow you to do a one step upgrade |
| 00:17.36 | asteriskmonkey | woo i found the vonage linksys crack |
| 00:17.55 | junbug_ | Qwell[]: u have a link? just joined |
| 00:18.02 | Qwell[] | http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/c_ipphon/english/ipp7960/addprot/mgcp/frmwrup.htm#wp1053742 |
| 00:18.12 | junbug_ | asteriskmonkey: theres a way to crack it neat |
| 00:18.18 | JunK-Y | asteriskmonkey: to unlock the PAP2? |
| 00:18.52 | asteriskmonkey | yes to unlock pap2 :) |
| 00:19.13 | Qwell[] | wow..I just got what "NA" stands for |
| 00:19.34 | Qwell[] | I was thinking it was like N/A, but no...North America |
| 00:20.29 | asteriskmonkey | yes if you get one from future shop or best buy they have a -ca |
| 00:20.33 | asteriskmonkey | and are locked :P |
| 00:21.01 | Qwell[] | bbl |
| 00:22.36 | junbug_ | asteriskmonkey: did u actually unlock one yet to work with *? |
| 00:23.12 | asteriskmonkey | doing it now :) |
| 00:23.52 | junbug_ | asteriskmonkey: hmm interested how thta plays out... they are relatively cheap here |
| 00:24.33 | asteriskmonkey | yes there like 50-60$ canadian so cheaper than an iaxy :) plus they have 2 lines on em |
| 00:25.24 | JunK-Y | asteriskmonkey: mines is already unlocked. |
| 00:26.00 | junbug_ | hmmm seems to need some fireware .bin files |
| 00:26.07 | asteriskmonkey | i have them :) |
| 00:28.51 | asteriskmonkey | ill post a link shortly just going to zap this one first |
| 00:29.18 | junbug_ | kewl |
| 00:31.04 | many | did someone consider running lint/splint on openpbx? |
| 00:32.19 | asteriskmonkey | going to loose irc for a minute have to shut down internet to crak this one |
| 00:34.41 | junbug_ | np waiting for results :) |
| 00:35.42 | *** part/#asterisk clive- (n=pirch@ndn-165-129-135.telkomadsl.co.za) |
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| 00:38.48 | p_jack02 | hi |
| 00:39.17 | p_jack02 | does anybody has misdn running with HFC cards? |
| 00:40.21 | many | Yes, Quad HFC from beronet |
| 00:43.07 | p_jack02 | cool, i have problems to understand, how to use misdn. I have 2x HFC card, one in NT, one in TE mode. On one card, there is an NTBA connected (via crosslink) and with two isdn phones. I tried to create an extensions.conf, for simple things, like phone internal ISDN<->ISDN or, ISDN<->SIP. |
| 00:43.45 | p_jack02 | SIP was no problem, but ISDN :-/ |
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| 00:44.02 | many | so whats the actual problem? you offhook one phone and get no dialtone? |
| 00:44.22 | p_jack02 | For example. |
| 00:44.40 | p_jack02 | Or, where i have to use the MSN numbers. |
| 00:44.41 | many | are you sure you rewired the cable from nt card to ntba correctly? |
| 00:44.59 | p_jack02 | every howto describes capi.conf or zaptel. |
| 00:45.58 | p_jack02 | Yeah, i tried many configurations and i get a dialtone. |
| 00:46.05 | many | oh. |
| 00:46.24 | many | So from the ISDN Phone you can call out already? |
| 00:47.04 | p_jack02 | Last days, i tried a big configuration from the net and i heard a sample error "the exentension is not availble" from a voice. |
| 00:47.44 | many | lbx: if you have a reason to query me, you should explain first why you do. |
| 00:47.54 | many | p_jack02: what you tried is not relevant for now. |
| 00:48.12 | p_jack02 | But i did not get running simple things, like phoning internal, or to external. |
| 00:48.14 | many | p_jack02: so, i repeat my question, can you call out from an ISDN Phone? |
| 00:48.20 | p_jack02 | no |
| 00:48.23 | p_jack02 | i can't |
| 00:48.48 | many | inside the context where the ISDN phone comes in, do you have a 's' extension? |
| 00:49.19 | p_jack02 | Let me explain: |
| 00:49.30 | JunK-Y | s as superman! |
| 00:49.40 | p_jack02 | [intern] |
| 00:49.41 | p_jack02 | ; define your ports, e.g. 1,2 (depends on mISDN-driver loading order) |
| 00:49.41 | p_jack02 | ports=2 |
| 00:49.41 | p_jack02 | ; context where to go to when incoming Call on one of the above ports |
| 00:49.41 | p_jack02 | context=from-internal |
| 00:49.41 | p_jack02 | [extern] |
| 00:49.42 | marv | what exactly does samples mean for iax_send_voice(struct iax_session *session, int format, unsigned char *data, int datalen, int samples); |
| 00:49.43 | p_jack02 | ; define your ports, e.g. 1,2 (depends on mISDN-driver loading order) |
| 00:49.45 | p_jack02 | ports=1 |
| 00:49.47 | p_jack02 | ; context where to go to when incoming Call on one of the above ports |
| 00:49.49 | p_jack02 | context=from-pstn |
| 00:49.51 | p_jack02 | msns=400,401 |
| 00:50.19 | many | okay, next time please use pastebin |
| 00:50.23 | many | ~pastebin |
| 00:50.25 | jbot | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 00:51.24 | p_jack02 | msn 400/401 are the phones, but, i don't know, what needs to be in the extensions.conf |
| 00:53.07 | p_jack02 | @many, jepp, i did'nt know that, nice place, pastebin :-) |
| 00:53.11 | *** join/#asterisk LBX (n=SystemAd@user-11fap1n.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 00:53.28 | LBX | Sorry |
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| 00:53.55 | many | p_jack: okay |
| 00:54.32 | many | p_jack02: really stupid question, did you configure your ISDN Phones to accept only certain MSNs? For example i programmed my DECT to what my MSNs are and it accepts only these MSNs. |
| 00:54.53 | p_jack02 | Yep, i did. |
| 00:55.36 | many | then you will need to use these msns in DIAL(mISDN/.....) |
| 00:55.38 | many | for example |
| 00:56.41 | p_jack02 | I need only a simple extensions.conf for testing: http://pastebin.ca/31364 |
| 00:57.06 | p_jack02 | Sure, its not working. |
| 00:58.43 | many | before backstabbing the problem, do you get any warnings or errors, when you try to dial? actually, when you reach asterisk from the phone fine, you should see some message |
| 00:58.46 | many | s |
| 00:58.48 | p_jack02 | cause: Cannot find extension context 'from-internal' it was a configuration file from a@h |
| 00:59.26 | many | right, you configured your chan_misdn.conf to use contexts from-pstn and from-internal |
| 00:59.35 | many | but these contexts are not in your extensions.conf at all |
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| 01:00.46 | asteriskmonkey | woo the hack worked!!!!1 |
| 01:00.59 | many | asteriskmonkey is t3h MAN!!!!11 |
| 01:01.01 | junbug_ | asteriskmonkey: wow that was quick... |
| 01:01.10 | *** join/#asterisk zotz (n=zotz@24.231.47.168) |
| 01:01.17 | junbug_ | hmmm staples gives greate rebates on them too |
| 01:01.29 | asteriskmonkey | now just going to setup a sip account and try its 2 line capability :) |
| 01:01.30 | p_jack02 | nobody was there, to explain me, if i need it. two context in misdn.conf |
| 01:01.43 | junbug_ | but i hear if you factory reset it will be locked again |
| 01:01.44 | many | p_jack02: well, do you know what contexts are? |
| 01:03.04 | p_jack02 | hmm, it is the configuration from one obejct. |
| 01:03.05 | asteriskmonkey | yes |
| 01:03.19 | asteriskmonkey | but how often would you ever to a factory reset? never :P |
| 01:03.29 | many | mh. its best described in an analogy, do you know how iptables work? |
| 01:03.40 | p_jack02 | jepp |
| 01:04.25 | many | okay, consider an context a CHAIN in iptables. you configure your driver to let incoming calls slip into a context and in extensions.conf you describe what anyone inside this chain (context) may do |
| 01:05.14 | many | so you basically said in chan_misdn.conf: any incoming call on port 1 is going into chain from-pstn, but there is no chain from-pstn defined in extensions.conf |
| 01:07.14 | many | as you may say in iptables chain: goto another chain, you can (almost) equally also say in contexts: include another context. |
| 01:07.17 | many | this eases some things up |
| 01:08.08 | junbug_ | asteriskmonkey: true |
| 01:08.52 | many | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.00 | *** join/#asterisk genmud (n=genmud@ip68-98-82-206.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 01:09.30 | p_jack02 | ok, i understand. so, for testing, i remove the context [extern] in misdn.conf, for simpler test, and renamed intern to from-internal in extions.conf. Now i can hear a dialtone. :-) |
| 01:09.42 | many | cool |
| 01:10.00 | many | ich hoffe, das hilft dir erstmal weiter zum rumspielen :) |
| 01:12.08 | many | you can get also further inspiration from http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+config+extensions.conf |
| 01:12.33 | p_jack02 | Tja, wie gesagt, soweit war ich schon, das Problem fängt an, bei der weiterverarbeitung. Z.b wo kommt die msn vor, in der extensions.conf. Also was ich schon probiert habe ist, von 400 nach 401 zu telefonieren. |
| 01:12.58 | p_jack02 | exten => 400,1,Dial(misdn/1/400) steht da momentan. |
| 01:14.07 | many | put that line into the context where you sip phone comes in |
| 01:14.17 | *** join/#asterisk twisted (n=twisted@asterisk/friend-and-developer/pdpc.professional.twisted) |
| 01:14.17 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o twisted] by ChanServ |
| 01:14.19 | many | and see wether you can dial sip->400 |
| 01:14.28 | file | twisted! |
| 01:14.32 | jahani | is there a module web callback for asterisk ? |
| 01:14.38 | many | manager |
| 01:15.01 | many | well, its no web. |
| 01:15.17 | jahani | there is other thing? |
| 01:15.30 | many | what exactly are you trying to do? ;) |
| 01:15.56 | jahani | 1 moment i show you |
| 01:16.39 | many | ~pastebin |
| 01:16.40 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 01:16.45 | asteriskmonkey | woo the pap2 thing now connects to my asterisk :) |
| 01:17.47 | jahani | many like this site http://www.100call.com/ser_web-back.htm |
| 01:18.46 | *** join/#asterisk carfoo (n=clarke@netblock-72-25-87-33.dslextreme.com) |
| 01:19.04 | many | iam not even sure this would work with originate. |
| 01:19.08 | junbug_ | asteriskgeeks: both lines work? |
| 01:19.22 | asteriskmonkey | yes |
| 01:19.23 | many | but, it should. |
| 01:19.35 | junbug_ | nice ok time to head to staples |
| 01:19.40 | asteriskmonkey | lol |
| 01:20.27 | bch | does anyone have any experience with hosting an Asterisk system at a data center? |
| 01:21.11 | bch | for a simple product information IVR |
| 01:21.11 | morale | i work in a datacenter and run asterisk at home] |
| 01:21.15 | bch | hah |
| 01:21.35 | asteriskmonkey | yes |
| 01:21.44 | asteriskmonkey | i run asterisk servers at a colo in toronto :) |
| 01:21.59 | bch | nice |
| 01:22.03 | *** join/#asterisk L|NUX (n=linux@202.5.145.58) |
| 01:22.05 | bch | is it pretty easy to do? |
| 01:22.17 | asteriskmonkey | bch: what is easy to do ? |
| 01:22.18 | bch | any particular issues? |
| 01:22.27 | junbug_ | bch: if u understand asterisk |
| 01:22.28 | bch | setup the colo |
| 01:22.34 | morale | asteriskmonkey: what datacenter do you host at? |
| 01:22.41 | asteriskmonkey | 151 front street |
| 01:22.44 | morale | q9? |
| 01:22.55 | asteriskmonkey | no 151front.. it feeds q9 :) |
| 01:23.01 | morale | ah |
| 01:23.11 | asteriskmonkey | where are you at moreale? |
| 01:23.12 | morale | is 151 front torix? |
| 01:23.13 | bch | I understand it relatively well, at least for dialplans, not so hot on all the different protocols |
| 01:23.21 | morale | asteriskmonkey: in calgary |
| 01:23.26 | asteriskmonkey | torix is a services provided at 151 |
| 01:23.42 | asteriskmonkey | torix inteconnects all the major isps right at the source :) and yes i am on torix |
| 01:23.43 | jahani | any one has idea about web callback with asterisk ? |
| 01:23.55 | morale | ah i see. |
| 01:23.57 | asteriskmonkey | i have clients in calgary with 20ms connection times to my asterisk :D |
| 01:24.10 | morale | thats pretty good |
| 01:24.24 | asteriskmonkey | bch: unless you have serious knowledge on t1's pri's and unix dont try and setup a pbx at a colo |
| 01:24.36 | p_jack02 | @many, he tries to dial, when i put the line into [default], but the phone does not ring. |
| 01:24.45 | asteriskmonkey | yes the tos settings in asterisk rape the routers into giving full priority to the packets |
| 01:24.57 | p_jack02 | i look into the debug window. |
| 01:26.38 | morale | asteriskmonkey: how much is a pri at torix? |
| 01:27.19 | hhoffman | are sounds that people have custom recorded included in the asterisk-sounds? |
| 01:27.35 | asteriskmonkey | morale: torix is a joint servie for pushing network traffic directly to all the other major isps in the building so it dosnt leave then come back in.. its an intelligent routeing service.. it does not provide t1's |
| 01:27.53 | asteriskmonkey | i can howver give you some good contacts if you want cheap t1's at 151 |
| 01:28.32 | p_jack02 | @ hmm, sure, i think, i know why: http://pastebin.ca/31371 |
| 01:28.58 | morale | yeah, i was thinking of providing DIDs in alberta eventually. 'cept the best provider i have found so far is www.link2voip.com which i am 12-30ms away from me |
| 01:29.26 | asteriskmonkey | morale: where do you have dids right now? |
| 01:29.50 | asteriskmonkey | link2voip is ok but flakey at times and no support as its run by like 1 guy |
| 01:30.31 | morale | asteriskmonkey: i don't provide any right now, i just go through a provider right now. i have a DID in BC and Alberta though |
| 01:31.38 | asteriskmonkey | so you eventually wanna get a t1 and provide yourself :0 |
| 01:32.47 | asteriskmonkey | is that right morale? |
| 01:33.41 | morale | yes |
| 01:33.49 | asteriskmonkey | ah ok |
| 01:34.12 | asteriskmonkey | i have multi-t1's and a failover ds-3 here for when the primary t's get full |
| 01:35.16 | *** join/#asterisk scud (n=scud@12-214-190-139.client.mchsi.com) |
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| 01:36.05 | rushowr | hey all I have some REALLY disturbinjg issues with stable |
| 01:36.15 | asteriskmonkey | what? |
| 01:36.26 | rushowr | I'm using stable with sip realtime |
| 01:36.47 | rushowr | it suddeenly has stopped taking registrations and deadlocking after loading roughly 200 users |
| 01:37.01 | rushowr | goes to 99% CPU usage |
| 01:37.07 | tainted_ | are u transcoding |
| 01:37.10 | rushowr | gdb shows nothign really useful on bt or bt full |
| 01:37.10 | rushowr | no |
| 01:37.16 | rushowr | g711u only |
| 01:37.30 | tainted_ | u sure it's not hardware bottleneck? |
| 01:37.31 | rushowr | I've been running this server with 2K+ servers for 6 months |
| 01:37.33 | rushowr | yes |
| 01:37.37 | *** join/#asterisk shmaltz (n=chatzill@69.28.255.210) |
| 01:37.37 | rushowr | it ran fine on stable for a week |
| 01:37.44 | shmaltz | hi everyone |
| 01:37.46 | rushowr | and then about 2 hours ago DIED |
| 01:38.04 | Dr-Linux | ping |
| 01:38.05 | tainted_ | what was it doing before dying |
| 01:38.27 | rushowr | before the first lock it was doing everythjing it normally does, mainly making and receiving calls |
| 01:38.32 | rushowr | we don't do monitoring |
| 01:38.41 | rushowr | only voicemail in that respect |
| 01:38.47 | rushowr | but now it ALWAYS dies |
| 01:38.59 | tainted_ | is there enough harddrive space? |
| 01:39.00 | rushowr | it can't even load the users from the db, hit s200 and locks |
| 01:39.19 | rushowr | (pardon the typing, I have a boss breathing down the neck at the moment, we're an ITSP) |
| 01:39.45 | rushowr | would you like a backtrace? |
| 01:39.46 | tainted_ | sounds like faulty hardware if the entire box just locks up |
| 01:39.51 | rushowr | no |
| 01:39.55 | rushowr | the whole box doesn't lock uip |
| 01:39.57 | rushowr | just asterisk |
| 01:40.04 | tainted_ | what version? |
| 01:40.10 | rushowr | Stable |
| 01:40.11 | rushowr | 1.2.0 |
| 01:40.20 | NewSole2 | rushowr you using pri card or TDM |
| 01:40.24 | rushowr | no sip only |
| 01:40.25 | tainted_ | SIP |
| 01:40.54 | rushowr | yes |
| 01:40.56 | rushowr | SIP |
| 01:40.57 | tainted_ | does it lock up immediately or after heavly load |
| 01:40.58 | NewSole2 | rushowr you using pri card or TDM |
| 01:40.58 | robl^ | does the "hint" priority work with channels like Local or monitoring parked calls, meet me, queues? |
| 01:41.02 | rushowr | no immediately |
| 01:41.05 | tainted_ | NewSole2 he said SIP |
| 01:41.07 | rushowr | NewSole2: SIP |
| 01:41.21 | tainted_ | pastebin the backtrace |
| 01:41.27 | rushowr | one sec, I'll getya one |
| 01:42.15 | tainted_ | did u try asterisk with default conf to see if it's something in dialplan? |
| 01:42.21 | rushowr | hrm...one sec |
| 01:42.26 | rushowr | do that before bt |
| 01:42.27 | rushowr | :)p |
| 01:42.46 | NewSole2 | just I ran into same problem with SIP and IAX and foound out that My TE410 Card was sharing IRQ |
| 01:43.31 | asteriskmonkey | newsole2: yes thats bad |
| 01:43.40 | asteriskmonkey | pop that beast on another slot |
| 01:44.12 | NewSole2 | I am just thinking that might be same problem with his |
| 01:44.14 | rushowr | here's a good one |
| 01:44.27 | bbz | Would anyone here be interested in some Polycom 501 phones? We got stuck w/ an extra 20 after a project, and we need to unload them at cost---->>> <<<---- [sorry alot of people have been missing the cost of these] if anyone is interested send me a private message (if i dont respond immediately, leave me your email address, and i can send you info) i have a reference in the channel if you need. -- |
| 01:44.42 | rushowr | extensions.conf.sample copied to /etc/asterisk/extensions.conf and now it won't even start |
| 01:45.23 | rushowr | now it starts |
| 01:45.28 | rushowr | and no it deadlocks there too |
| 01:46.30 | rushowr | possibly culprit found if you're interested |
| 01:47.32 | TheCops | Someone have working led of the Snom 320 phone with Asterisk ? (Hint and stuff like that) |
| 01:47.32 | LBX | How much $ for the phones? |
| 01:48.10 | rushowr | progress made, but not solution |
| 01:48.30 | rushowr | rtautoclear=yes needs to be in |
| 01:53.06 | wolfson | bbz is not really here, appears he's just got the spam on a timmer |
| 01:53.29 | asteriskmonkey | can we get him kicked please |
| 01:53.32 | rushowr | k you ready tainted_ ? |
| 01:53.36 | rushowr | bt is in here |
| 01:53.39 | rushowr | #0 0x007f67a2 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 |
| 01:53.39 | rushowr | No symbol table info available. |
| 01:53.39 | rushowr | #1 0x008cc9e4 in poll () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 |
| 01:53.39 | rushowr | No symbol table info available. |
| 01:53.39 | rushowr | #2 0x080bf05e in main (argc=1, argv=0xbff0d4b4) at asterisk.c:2336 |
| 01:53.40 | rushowr | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:53.41 | asteriskmonkey | that whiney bullshit to sell phones |
| 01:53.42 | rushowr | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.23 | rushowr | anyone? thoughts? |
| 01:55.42 | rushowr | maybe I need to recompile with better debug info, I had slacked since it was "stable" |
| 01:58.36 | rushowr | I could do a: |
| 01:58.36 | rushowr | info thread |
| 01:58.36 | rushowr | thread apply all bt |
| 01:58.40 | rushowr | and get more info if you like |
| 01:59.01 | *** join/#asterisk ms345 (n=mike_sim@64.74.198.10) |
| 02:01.17 | rushowr | guess I'll hit the dev list. |
| 02:01.17 | rushowr | Thanks to asteriskmonkey and tainted_ |
| 02:02.32 | *** part/#asterisk Zeit|awy (n=wurscht@p54A781C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:04.33 | tainted_ | i would exactly call 1.2.0 'stable' |
| 02:04.37 | tainted_ | wouldn't |
| 02:04.46 | rushowr | no neither would i |
| 02:05.02 | rushowr | but don't ask for help if you're not using the latest, you'll get told to upgrade....even when you pay for dev |
| 02:05.19 | tainted_ | do u guys have support contract with digium? |
| 02:05.34 | tainted_ | i would get one |
| 02:05.37 | rushowr | yes |
| 02:05.38 | *** join/#asterisk r0d3nt (i=nobody@wsip-24-234-241-145.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 02:05.39 | rushowr | trust me |
| 02:05.42 | tainted_ | if ur handing 200+ call per box |
| 02:10.58 | junbug_ | i would like to work for them |
| 02:11.41 | junbug_ | they should set up some sort of remote tech support from home for qualified guys |
| 02:11.44 | rushowr | 2000+ |
| 02:12.00 | junbug_ | rushowr: wow, call center? |
| 02:12.05 | rushowr | ITSP |
| 02:12.26 | rushowr | we're a national voip provider |
| 02:12.39 | rushowr | gotta go though guys, take 'er easy, I gotta get my failsafge in |
| 02:12.42 | *** part/#asterisk rushowr (n=rushowr@cpe-24-194-238-98.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 02:13.57 | *** part/#asterisk NewSole2 (n=dave@d38-53-48.commercial1.cgocable.net) |
| 02:14.06 | junbug_ | hmm 2000+ users and no digium contract.... |
| 02:14.22 | shido6 | ? |
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| 02:23.19 | asteriskmonkey | for shame |
| 02:23.31 | Qwell[] | indeed |
| 02:24.42 | tmccrary | are there any asterisk devs in here? Is anyone working on a realtime ldap asterisk enhancement? |
| 02:25.04 | Qwell[] | tmccrary: check mantis |
| 02:25.20 | mog_home | hmm |
| 02:26.12 | Qwell[] | mog_home: according to the ones already on eBay... |
| 02:26.15 | Qwell[] | :D |
| 02:26.34 | mog_home | yeah i was gonna look.... |
| 02:26.47 | mog_home | but mine would have the "built by mog" sticker |
| 02:26.51 | mog_home | or "mog inside" |
| 02:26.55 | asteriskmonkey | ldap :P windows an novell for shame lol |
| 02:27.20 | Qwell[] | asteriskmonkey: Whata re you talking about? ldap rocks |
| 02:27.32 | tmccrary | yeah, ldap rocks |
| 02:27.35 | file[laptop] | mog_home: you're silly |
| 02:27.58 | tmccrary | and ldap isn't directly related to novell or microsoft (you may be thinking of their directory products, which have ldap backends) |
| 02:28.02 | asteriskmonkey | light directory access protocol? yes i suppose.. im jsut an sql junkie though all unix |
| 02:28.08 | Qwell[] | AD != LDAP |
| 02:28.12 | shido6 | $0 |
| 02:28.20 | tmccrary | asterisk, ldap is for fast reads |
| 02:28.21 | Qwell[] | AD is LDAP, but LDAP is not AD |
| 02:28.41 | tmccrary | LDAP is a completely different beast than a relational database |
| 02:28.42 | mog_home | yikes xorcom or somebody who uses them is selling one for 50... |
| 02:28.53 | tmccrary | They are for completely different things |
| 02:29.12 | tmccrary | AD isn't ldap, it just has a backend that spits out ldap ldif data |
| 02:29.17 | tmccrary | AD = pile of monkey crap |
| 02:29.37 | tmccrary | No offense, asterismonkey ;) |
| 02:30.03 | mog_home | man there is 0 money in it |
| 02:30.12 | tmccrary | well, it looks like there are some ldap via radius patches, but that only solves authentication issues |
| 02:30.38 | tmccrary | plus after thumbing through the docs on the patches, the guy clearly doesn't understand ldap either (!?) |
| 02:31.42 | asteriskmonkey | if you want it doing right :P you have to do it yourself |
| 02:31.49 | mog_home | lol |
| 02:31.51 | hhoffman | what sorta ldap/radius problems are you having? |
| 02:31.51 | mog_home | or pay to have it done |
| 02:32.07 | tmccrary | actually, i already started an implementation, i just wanted to see if I was duplicating work |
| 02:32.15 | tmccrary | I'm using the openldap libs |
| 02:32.35 | hhoffman | openldap is only good for small sites |
| 02:32.44 | tmccrary | ;) |
| 02:32.59 | tmccrary | You know the client libs really aren't limited by the server implementation right |
| 02:33.04 | hhoffman | hopefully it'll get better, we'll see |
| 02:33.16 | hhoffman | well, that's only somewhat true :-) |
| 02:33.20 | tmccrary | you can use the openldap client library with ad if you wanted |
| 02:33.35 | tmccrary | or fedora directory server or whatever, as long as it speaks ldap |
| 02:33.52 | hhoffman | the netscape/sun1/whatever it's called today tends to be different from openldap lib implementation |
| 02:33.54 | tmccrary | the main problem with slapd, is its replication model, its very primitive |
| 02:34.22 | tmccrary | that's news to me, considering i use it everyday with iplanet, but i'll take your word for it :) |
| 02:35.50 | hhoffman | well, basic searches are the same... but they are only basic |
| 02:36.01 | jahani | what diference from h323 and sip ? |
| 02:36.26 | asteriskmonkey | whats the diffence bettween an apple and orange |
| 02:36.27 | tmccrary | h323 is the old standard for wrapping voip commands |
| 02:36.36 | asterboy | So no one has used ldap in conjunction with asterisk? |
| 02:36.57 | jahani | ok thank you |
| 02:37.09 | tmccrary | there are some hacky, but probably 100% usable, ldap scripts for asterisk |
| 02:37.33 | tmccrary | basically that query an ldap directory and generate asterisk configs for it |
| 02:37.37 | tmccrary | *from it |
| 02:37.51 | tmccrary | that's not something I'd use in production, but it may work out well |
| 02:41.46 | asterboy | Timely conversation about ldap since I'm interested in installing ldap and using it for asterisk's phone book. |
| 02:42.14 | asteriskmonkey | anyoen used voipbuster with asterisk yet? |
| 02:43.46 | tmccrary | asterboy: do you mean for extensions and whatnot? |
| 02:44.39 | tmccrary | damn, the guys writing the current asterisk ldap implementation are crazy |
| 02:44.45 | tmccrary | they want to integrate with PAM, !@# |
| 02:44.55 | asterboy | yes |
| 02:45.05 | asterboy | lol PAM |
| 02:45.19 | asterboy | guys on the lfs site curse it all the time. |
| 02:46.15 | tmccrary | i'm not anti-pam persay, I use it for authentication on all my servers (ldap, unix passwd, etc). But it's silly to integrate a multiplatform app with something so linux centric, especially when there's no logical reason to do it. |
| 02:46.24 | tmccrary | err per se |
| 02:46.26 | tmccrary | doh |
| 02:48.19 | Qwell[] | Does ev1 outsource their tech support now? |
| 02:49.14 | IronHelix | do they? that would be a disappointing change... |
| 02:49.32 | Qwell[] | dunno, maybe not. |
| 02:49.50 | Qwell[] | He said he was going "to go talk to the network team", so it seems he might be in the building |
| 02:49.59 | asteriskmonkey | do you setup a sip trunk the same as an iax2 trunk |
| 02:50.07 | Qwell[] | unless the network team is also in India, heh |
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| 02:50.53 | tmccrary | asteriskmon: probably, sip trunks are very simple to setup |
| 02:51.04 | Qwell[] | sip trunk? |
| 02:51.13 | Qwell[] | I think he means like iax trunking... |
| 02:52.20 | asteriskmonkey | yes |
| 02:52.29 | Qwell[] | I don't think you can do that with sip |
| 02:52.52 | asteriskmonkey | mmm shitty |
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| 02:55.10 | tmccrary | whoa sweet, there's already an ldap realtime driver |
| 02:55.26 | Nugget | neat |
| 02:55.34 | Qwell[] | Didn't I say to check the bug tracker? :p |
| 02:56.12 | *** part/#asterisk m160858 (n=jsaenz@200.89.12.46) |
| 02:56.13 | tmccrary | yes, I followed your advice but i just a did a more thorough search :) |
| 02:56.14 | tmccrary | thank you |
| 02:56.24 | Qwell[] | is that the one you're talking about? |
| 02:56.44 | tmccrary | the other implementation is exactly how I have been developing mine, only this one is a lot farther along! YES! :) |
| 02:56.47 | asterboy | post the link pls |
| 02:56.54 | Qwell[] | ahh |
| 02:56.54 | tmccrary | http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5768 |
| 03:01.28 | hhoffman | anyone using moziax as a softphone? |
| 03:02.02 | asterboy | Is there a README file with res_ldap? |
| 03:02.17 | asterboy | indicates there is one, but did not see it on the link |
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| 03:03.19 | asterboy | How do you implement res_ldap and what are the functions? |
| 03:03.37 | Qwell[] | asterboy: probably in the tar.gz |
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| 03:07.09 | asterboy | not there |
| 03:07.16 | Qwell[] | bbl |
| 03:07.26 | asterboy | cya |
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| 04:06.35 | shmaltz | I like this one, anybody tried out #sex on this server? |
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| 04:07.34 | mog_home | pound sex? |
| 04:07.44 | shmaltz | mog_home, no channel sex |
| 04:07.49 | shmaltz | type /sex |
| 04:07.53 | shmaltz | I mean /j sex |
| 04:08.02 | mog_home | what goes on in there |
| 04:08.09 | shmaltz | mog try it |
| 04:08.10 | mog_home | or is it the channel for that cli program sex |
| 04:08.10 | shmaltz | :) |
| 04:08.12 | coppice | pound sex? is this cheap hookers, and rather vigorous sex? |
| 04:08.26 | shmaltz | nope, just type /j #sex |
| 04:08.33 | shmaltz | all it means is join the room sex |
| 04:08.38 | mog_home | lol |
| 04:08.42 | coppice | nice one |
| 04:08.44 | mog_home | coppice i see you joined me |
| 04:09.34 | coppice | so you can have channels that start ##. Does that have special significance? |
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| 04:10.31 | mog_home | its a pointer |
| 04:12.33 | Qwell[] | I never did understand that. #linux forwards to ##linux for some reason |
| 04:13.47 | shmaltz | same does #slackware |
| 04:14.06 | Qwell[] | any idea why they do that? |
| 04:15.12 | mog_home | #C does it to |
| 04:15.21 | mog_home | i imagine they do it for some kinda logging or banning |
| 04:17.01 | LBX | Can anyone reccommend any good software I can use with SIP to phone? |
| 04:17.14 | Qwell[] | LBX: xlite is okay |
| 04:17.46 | LBX | xlite is not working for me |
| 04:17.52 | LBX | Neither is Express Talk :( |
| 04:18.02 | Qwell[] | Why not? |
| 04:18.16 | Qwell[] | the obvious answer, is that the configs are wrong |
| 04:18.22 | shmaltz | LBX, thats b/c you didnt configure it rith |
| 04:18.23 | LBX | Well, not exactly. |
| 04:18.34 | shmaltz | LBX, you mind explaining? |
| 04:18.38 | LBX | I can't hear what the person is saying. |
| 04:18.46 | LBX | And the person on the phone cannot hear what I'm saying. |
| 04:18.47 | shmaltz | LBX, again b/c of configs |
| 04:18.51 | LBX | No |
| 04:18.55 | shmaltz | LBX, yes |
| 04:19.02 | shmaltz | LBX, how long you been using asterisk? |
| 04:19.09 | LBX | If I go to the Audio Tuning and stuff and do that I talk into the mic and it repeats it. |
| 04:19.18 | LBX | And I can hear what it is saying |
| 04:19.34 | LBX | And I can use it with my other VoIP service. |
| 04:19.39 | LBX | Just not a certain one. |
| 04:19.48 | shmaltz | LBX, you obviusly misconfigured something, as long as you insist that its not that way we cant help you |
| 04:20.00 | LBX | Misconfigured in what aspect? |
| 04:20.21 | shmaltz | LBX, now we talking |
| 04:20.35 | shmaltz | LBX, can you please describe the setup? |
| 04:20.45 | LBX | I have no idea. |
| 04:20.55 | shmaltz | LBX, then why you asking? |
| 04:21.02 | LBX | I didn't set it up |
| 04:21.07 | LBX | Everyone else can use it just fine. |
| 04:21.08 | LBX | Except me. |
| 04:21.54 | wasim | make sure the noload => stop_lbx.so is uncommented in modules.conf |
| 04:22.27 | LBX | I don't have access to do that. |
| 04:22.38 | Qwell[] | wasim: your humor is lost |
| 04:22.59 | wasim | Qwell[]: 'tis early in the morning ... |
| 04:23.04 | robl^ | snom has a nice soft phoine too.. free for windows.. and soon for Linux |
| 04:23.32 | shmaltz | LBX, then why did you come here? |
| 04:23.42 | shmaltz | LBX, this aint an xlite room |
| 04:23.52 | LBX | It's not an xlite issue. |
| 04:25.28 | *** join/#asterisk benjk (n=benjk@f8a01-0357.din.or.jp) |
| 04:25.41 | shmaltz | LBX, I can't say I disagree but without access to the asterisk box you aint going to be able to change anything, unless it's on xlites side |
| 04:26.05 | shmaltz | LBX, BTW, you got no clue if it's an xlite issue or not |
| 04:26.10 | LBX | But how can it work for other people and just not me? |
| 04:26.37 | shmaltz | LBX, that will all be answered if you have answer to the questions that we ask |
| 04:26.41 | shmaltz | what type of setup is it? |
| 04:26.48 | shmaltz | you on the same net as the server? |
| 04:26.56 | LBX | Nop |
| 04:26.57 | shmaltz | are the others on the same net as you? |
| 04:27.03 | shmaltz | LBX, here is the answer |
| 04:27.04 | LBX | Yes |
| 04:27.26 | shmaltz | LBX, you are having a NAT issue |
| 04:27.31 | shmaltz | can you register? |
| 04:27.34 | shmaltz | it rings? |
| 04:27.42 | LBX | Yes it rings |
| 04:27.53 | LBX | Just when the phone is answered I can't hear them and they can't hear me. |
| 04:28.00 | shmaltz | LBX, that is NAT |
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| 04:28.15 | LBX | Oh, wait sorry. |
| 04:28.16 | benjk | have you configured rport on your x-lite ? |
| 04:28.22 | LBX | In xlite it does NOT ring. |
| 04:28.25 | LBX | But it does call the phone |
| 04:28.30 | shmaltz | you call up the guy (form another phone of course) that set it up fo you and sit with him to configure it for you |
| 04:28.32 | LBX | in Express Talk is DOES ring |
| 04:28.56 | LBX | Okay, is this still an NAT issue? |
| 04:29.03 | shmaltz | LBX, in expresss talk, can you hear or speak? |
| 04:29.07 | shmaltz | LBX, yes |
| 04:29.09 | LBX | No |
| 04:29.13 | shmaltz | unless you prove otherwise |
| 04:29.17 | LBX | I can't hear or speak in either of them |
| 04:29.22 | shmaltz | here you proved me taht it's a NAT issue |
| 04:29.49 | shmaltz | LBX, again, since you don't have access to the server there is nothing that can be done, ask you admin to configure it for you |
| 04:29.59 | benjk | that's not true |
| 04:30.05 | LBX | Okay, but what needs to be configured? |
| 04:30.11 | benjk | there is a lot you can do |
| 04:30.24 | benjk | especially with x-lite |
| 04:30.25 | shmaltz | LBX, RTFM |
| 04:30.33 | shmaltz | RTFM |
| 04:30.34 | benjk | its got bazillions of parameters |
| 04:30.35 | shmaltz | ~RTFM |
| 04:30.37 | jbot | somebody said rtfm was Read The F*cking Manual (TM) |
| 04:31.05 | LBX | RTFM |
| 04:31.07 | bbz | Would anyone here be interested in some Polycom 501 phones? We got stuck w/ an extra 20 after a project, and we need to unload them at cost---->>> <<<---- [sorry alot of people have been missing the cost of these] if anyone is interested send me a private message (if i dont respond immediately, leave me your email address, and i can send you info) i have a reference in the channel if you need. -- |
| 04:31.07 | benjk | bring up the diagnostic window of x-lite |
| 04:31.08 | LBX | Oh |
| 04:31.34 | benjk | F9 it is, I think |
| 04:31.44 | LBX | Okay |
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| 04:33.04 | benjk | do you have your diagnostics window up? |
| 04:33.08 | wasim | bbz: since nobody has picked them up in the last few days, perhaps its time you stop advertising |
| 04:33.11 | LBX | Yes |
| 04:33.23 | benjk | wasim: bbz is a spambot |
| 04:33.26 | mog_home | he is a bot |
| 04:33.30 | mog_home | he isnt there |
| 04:33.36 | mog_home | many people have responded |
| 04:33.38 | Qwell[] | mog_home: Why hasn't russell fixed it? :P |
| 04:33.42 | wasim | oh ... how come he isn't +kb |
| 04:33.42 | mog_home | and gotten nothing back |
| 04:33.47 | mog_home | i never got a response from him |
| 04:33.50 | mog_home | i told him to kick him |
| 04:33.54 | LBX | Do you want me to paste the diagnostics here? |
| 04:34.02 | mog_home | pastebing lbx |
| 04:34.04 | benjk | LBX can you see the SIP messages? |
| 04:34.24 | benjk | NO DONT PAST IT HERE! |
| 04:34.30 | wasim | ~pb |
| 04:34.31 | jbot | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 04:34.38 | shmaltz | ~seen bbz |
| 04:34.39 | jbot | bbz is currently on #asterisk. Has said a total of 190 messages. Is idling for 3m 32s |
| 04:34.53 | LBX | I see stuff like |
| 04:35.00 | LBX | Attempting SIP protocol listen on : |
| 04:35.07 | LBX | Then Discovered Restricted Cone NAT Firewall |
| 04:35.29 | benjk | first you need to find the messages that say SIP REGISTER |
| 04:36.05 | wasim | is it true kobe steak is soft as cotton wool? |
| 04:36.21 | mog_home | is pork better pickled? |
| 04:36.27 | LBX | There is no SIP REGISTER |
| 04:36.29 | benjk | wasim: yes |
| 04:36.39 | LBX | There is REGISTER sip: |
| 04:36.40 | benjk | it's not port, it's beef, Kobe beef |
| 04:37.04 | wasim | they massage them cows |
| 04:37.10 | benjk | wasim: they massage the cows so that the beef gets softer |
| 04:37.43 | benjk | but the beef has lots of white fat inside the tissue |
| 04:38.17 | benjk | I'd rather have a steak from well aged Ausie beef |
| 04:38.21 | LBX | benjk |
| 04:38.23 | LBX | Did you see |
| 04:38.24 | benjk | Aussie beef |
| 04:38.33 | benjk | LBX: pastebin |
| 04:38.43 | benjk | http://pastebin.ca |
| 04:38.44 | LBX | What's pastebin mean? |
| 04:38.46 | LBX | ok |
| 04:40.08 | benjk | you can paste the output there and let us know the URL, then we can look at it |
| 04:42.21 | LBX | Here you go benjk |
| 04:42.24 | LBX | http://pastebin.ca/31384 |
| 04:43.20 | benjk | yeah, that's what I thought |
| 04:43.28 | benjk | your problem is this: |
| 04:43.29 | benjk | Contact: <sip:Unknown@192.168.1.11> |
| 04:43.40 | LBX | Oh |
| 04:43.44 | LBX | What's this mean benjk? |
| 04:43.50 | benjk | the remote server will try to respond to your local address |
| 04:44.13 | benjk | you need to get your NAT router's global address in there |
| 04:44.17 | LBX | Okay |
| 04:44.30 | benjk | X-Lite is a piece of stinking dog droppings |
| 04:44.41 | mog_home | what benjk |
| 04:44.43 | LBX | So I need to add 192.168.1.1/24 right? |
| 04:44.43 | mog_home | say it isnt so |
| 04:44.45 | benjk | it says it discovered NAT |
| 04:44.51 | {zombie} | don't hold back, tell us how you really feel |
| 04:45.01 | benjk | but it sticks the local address into the contact field |
| 04:45.30 | LBX | benjk |
| 04:45.34 | LBX | Can you go to private for a second? |
| 04:45.51 | benjk | why? |
| 04:46.19 | benjk | you need to get your settings menu up on X-Lite |
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| 04:46.28 | LBX | They're up |
| 04:46.32 | LBX | Now what I do? |
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| 04:46.49 | YoMama | anyone here know how to set up intercom and Page()? |
| 04:46.55 | benjk | let me find the parameter that's in charge of setting the contact field |
| 04:46.59 | LBX | Okay |
| 04:47.01 | YoMama | hey benjk |
| 04:47.03 | shmaltz | YoMama, its easy |
| 04:47.16 | LBX | So benjk this is something I can fix on my local machine? |
| 04:47.17 | YoMama | shmaltz: well, i have a GXP2000 with the .13 firmware |
| 04:47.47 | YoMama | shmaltz: how do you get it to differentiate between a regular call and an intercom? the GXP2000 has "Auto Answer by Call-Info" but their docs suck |
| 04:47.48 | benjk | unless there is also a problem with the settings on the remote server, yes |
| 04:47.53 | Telamon | Any ideas why RTP wouldn't work when going from one extension to another on the same server, but calling between the two phones works if I use their public numbers through the zaptel interface? |
| 04:48.01 | shmaltz | YoMama, the easiest would be to have an extension that dials that phone and sets auto answr before dialing then use the local channel from page to page it |
| 04:48.08 | *** part/#asterisk ThePeopleGA (n=kemtram@rev-204.120.18.37.genesiswireless.us) |
| 04:48.45 | shmaltz | YoMama, I don't have a GXP2000 so I don't know how it would work on that one, but what I said is what should make it work |
| 04:49.05 | {zombie} | shmaltz: you need something like: exten => ???,?,SIPaddheader(Call-Info: \;answer-after=0) |
| 04:49.11 | YoMama | shmaltz: well, the "easy" way to do it..i understand..i'm trying to make it work the right way..which is to set call-info to something or another |
| 04:49.28 | shmaltz | YoMama, exactly as I told you |
| 04:49.30 | benjk | LBX: Under "Network" settings, you need to put your NAT router's public IP address where it says "NAT firewall IP" |
| 04:49.49 | LBX | But I don't know what my NAT router's IP is ?? |
| 04:49.51 | LBX | How can I get this |
| 04:50.00 | YoMama | {zombie}: hmm.lemme try that |
| 04:50.22 | {zombie} | sorry that was meant to be directed at YoMama.. and I haven't tested that because my version of asterisk is too old :( |
| 04:50.48 | {zombie} | but I got that from either the wiki or the mailing list a while ago |
| 04:50.53 | Telamon | YoMama: What about setting the callerid to "intercom" and then matching that in the bottom of the Advanced menu of the phone's setup? |
| 04:51.07 | Telamon | LBX: Go to whatsmyip.org and it will tell you. |
| 04:51.25 | LBX | Wait |
| 04:51.28 | LBX | The NAT Firewall IP |
| 04:51.32 | LBX | Is the IP of my local computer |
| 04:51.40 | LBX | And not the IP of the server that asterisk is on?? |
| 04:51.55 | LBX | Is that right benjk? |
| 04:52.37 | YoMama | Telemon: i'm looking at the advanced screen...there's no place to auto-answer based on callerID...only ring a different way |
| 04:53.11 | Telamon | The NAT firewall IP is the public IP (ie, doesn't start with 10. or 192.168.) of the machine that the Internet connection is plugged into. |
| 04:54.14 | LBX | AW |
| 04:54.17 | LBX | Still doesn't work :( |
| 04:54.23 | LBX | It's so weird |
| 04:54.27 | Telamon | YoMama: Sorry, I misread your original message. I thought you were looking for distinctive-ring, not auto-answer. |
| 04:54.35 | LBX | I can see the volume thing on the mic on xlite going up and down when I speak into the mic |
| 04:54.38 | LBX | But you can't hear it on the phone |
| 04:55.25 | YoMama | {zombie}: that didn't work..i think that the GXP2000 is looking for specific keywords |
| 04:55.29 | YoMama | in the call-info |
| 04:55.57 | tainted_ | is distinctive ring dictated by the phone? |
| 04:56.10 | tainted_ | or is there some kind of ringing protocol/ |
| 04:56.23 | LBX | benjk |
| 04:56.25 | LBX | Are you there? |
| 04:56.57 | LBX | Telamon |
| 04:57.12 | YoMama | tainted_: the phone allows you to define up to three CallerIDs you can get and the phone will ring another way |
| 04:57.31 | *** join/#asterisk Pete_Largo (n=PeteLarg@225-196.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 04:58.11 | Telamon | LBX: You are probably having NAT problems with the RTP port. What's the IP address of your computer that xten is running on? |
| 04:58.38 | LBX | 66.32.152.61 |
| 04:58.52 | Telamon | Okay, what's the IP address of your asterisk server? |
| 04:59.18 | LBX | 69.197.122.45 |
| 04:59.23 | *** join/#asterisk nlbags (n=neil@167.163.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 04:59.36 | benjk | LBX, did you now enter the public IP into where it says "NAT firewall IP" ? |
| 04:59.51 | LBX | I entered the IP of my local computer there benjk |
| 04:59.54 | LBX | Was that right? |
| 04:59.59 | {zombie} | YoMama: I got that info from the wiki for the spa-841 - I assumed the gxp2000 would use the same but obviously not |
| 05:00.13 | nlbags | Hi All, i'm having trouble changing the extension for blindxfer. i added it to the [featuremap] section of features.conf and restarted asterisk, but nothing has changed. anything i might've missed? |
| 05:00.16 | benjk | if you are behind NAT, then not |
| 05:00.18 | Telamon | Hmm, you don't need any NAT stuff then, it should just work. Do you have a firewall? If so, you need to open up ports 5060 and another one for the RTP (the sound channel), usually 8000. |
| 05:00.18 | YoMama | {zombie}: doesn't look like it...i tried intercom=true..found some reference tot hat too |
| 05:00.18 | Juggie | lbx, in *, type 'sip show peers' paste the line to me. |
| 05:00.32 | LBX | Juggie |
| 05:00.33 | benjk | LBX doesn't have access to the Asterisk server |
| 05:00.35 | LBX | What is * |
| 05:00.41 | Juggie | guess? |
| 05:00.47 | LBX | No idea |
| 05:00.49 | benjk | he's only got access to his own machine, running X-Lite |
| 05:00.50 | Qwell[] | So why is he asking for help here? :p |
| 05:00.51 | nlbags | LBX: say it aloud |
| 05:00.53 | Juggie | say it out loud |
| 05:01.04 | benjk | because the remote box is an Asterisk server |
| 05:01.07 | LBX | benjk |
| 05:01.09 | LBX | http://pastebin.ca/31386 |
| 05:01.11 | Qwell[] | He should be paying the xlite guys for support, heh |
| 05:01.13 | benjk | ok |
| 05:01.21 | LBX | That is the the thing AFTER I added my IP there |
| 05:01.22 | Telamon | * = asterisk (that's what "the star key" is actually called) |
| 05:01.27 | LBX | oh |
| 05:01.31 | LBX | lol |
| 05:01.59 | nlbags | so, anyone able to change the key sequence for blind transfers? |
| 05:02.13 | LBX | lol |
| 05:02.15 | Qwell[] | nlbags: features.conf |
| 05:02.25 | Qwell[] | LBX: Don't laugh. That's what you're doing. |
| 05:02.31 | nlbags | yeah i followed the instructions, it still accepts '#' as a transfer |
| 05:02.35 | LBX | Not really |
| 05:02.46 | Qwell[] | nlbags: Then don't use t or T |
| 05:02.47 | LBX | Because it happens in more than just x lite |
| 05:02.50 | {zombie} | Telamon: asterisk should have been called "Octothorpe" (#) instead.. would have made googling for answers a lot easier :) |
| 05:03.01 | nlbags | Qwell[]: huh? |
| 05:03.21 | Qwell[] | nevermind |
| 05:03.33 | tainted_ | YoMama which phone are you talking about for the three distinctive rings? |
| 05:03.35 | nlbags | Qwell[]: i need the functionality |
| 05:03.36 | Telamon | {zombie}: Heh, yeah, but then I would have to remember how to spell "the tic-tac-toe thingy" :) |
| 05:03.50 | nlbags | Qwell[]: but '#' is bad cause its used for so many things |
| 05:04.34 | Telamon | tainted_: The GXP2000. It's on the bottom of the Advanced screen, labelled "Custom ring tone X" |
| 05:04.35 | benjk | LBX, did you configure that DynDNS address? is your NAT router aut-updating that? |
| 05:04.36 | Qwell[] | nlbags: dunno, I don't have a * console in front of me |
| 05:04.54 | tainted_ | Telamon is that phone anygood? i've heard that it feels cheap |
| 05:05.00 | LBX | I didn't configure it |
| 05:05.01 | Telamon | benjk: He's not using NAT from what I see, he has a public IP. |
| 05:05.04 | Pete_Largo | it is cheap |
| 05:05.06 | LBX | Someone else did and told me to use that. |
| 05:05.21 | nlbags | Qwell[]: might try upgrading .... didn't want to have to though cause the system here works really well ... don't wanna break it |
| 05:05.35 | Qwell[] | nlbags: don't need to upgrade to disable that |
| 05:05.54 | Telamon | tainted_: Sound quality is a little problematic if you have the speaker volume too high, but it seems to work fine. I've only been playing with it for 2 days, so I'm not an expert on it by any means. |
| 05:05.55 | nlbags | no, i need to do transfers, just not with the '#' key |
| 05:07.23 | benjk | LBX, if that isn't properly set up, you have another source of trouble |
| 05:07.32 | Telamon | On another note, does anyone know why "sip show users" doesn't show users stored in a DB (postgres/mysql)? I can look them up with "sip show user <user> load" but "sip show users" and "sip show user <user>" don't work. |
| 05:07.39 | benjk | LBX, I think you shouldn't be using SIP |
| 05:07.52 | LBX | What should I be using? |
| 05:08.01 | YoMama | baaah...the allpage.agi script doesn't work with GXP2000's |
| 05:08.08 | benjk | given your level of network expertise (which is close to zero) you should be using something user friendly |
| 05:08.22 | benjk | SIP is only for people who know TCP/IP in and out |
| 05:08.39 | benjk | so unless you have a network guru there, you are better off using IAX |
| 05:08.44 | Telamon | IAX2. Doesn't have all the firewall/NAT issues. I don't know of any clients for Windows though. |
| 05:08.54 | nlbags | SIP is a pain in the arse |
| 05:09.07 | benjk | if the remote server is an Asterisk box, it would be easy to get an IAX accoutn there |
| 05:09.08 | LBX | But I have to use SIP |
| 05:09.11 | LBX | This is already setup |
| 05:09.16 | LBX | Everyone else can use it fine |
| 05:09.17 | LBX | Except me |
| 05:09.35 | benjk | Ask the guy who runs the Asterisk server to add an IAX accoutn for you |
| 05:09.45 | benjk | will take him about 3 seconds to do it |
| 05:09.53 | Telamon | nlbags: Yeah, but that's what 95% the $$@%ing hardware uses unfortunately. |
| 05:09.55 | benjk | then download Firefly |
| 05:10.03 | LBX | Okay |
| 05:10.07 | LBX | Will he know what IAX means? |
| 05:10.07 | benjk | but he is using a softphone |
| 05:10.15 | benjk | Inter Asterisk eXchange |
| 05:10.17 | nlbags | Telamon: well its great if your * box has a public IP |
| 05:10.22 | LBX | benjk |
| 05:10.29 | benjk | its a VoIP protocol that runs circles around SIP |
| 05:10.29 | LBX | Will I still be able to use my extension and stuff? |
| 05:10.34 | nlbags | painful otherwise |
| 05:10.42 | benjk | everything will be the same |
| 05:10.56 | benjk | just that you don't need to know anything about network stuff |
| 05:11.00 | benjk | IAX is like email |
| 05:11.11 | benjk | you need to know 3 things and 3 things only... |
| 05:11.12 | SwK | sip > iax for production stuff |
| 05:11.13 | benjk | user name |
| 05:11.16 | benjk | password |
| 05:11.17 | nlbags | benjk: that is an interesting statement! |
| 05:11.17 | SwK | iax is ok for playing around |
| 05:11.20 | benjk | server |
| 05:11.39 | nlbags | benjk: is IAX *really* anything like email? |
| 05:11.45 | Telamon | nlbags: Yeah, that's the issue I'm dealing with now: SIP proxying. I've got everything working EXCEPT when one phone calls another phone behind the same NAT. If I route it through zaptel it works, if I just use asterisk direct routing, RTP doesn't flow. |
| 05:12.06 | LBX | benjk how do you add an IAX account on Asterisk? |
| 05:12.10 | benjk | in respect of end user's adding an account profile to their client IAX is like email, yes |
| 05:12.20 | benjk | you need: username, password, server |
| 05:12.23 | benjk | nothing more |
| 05:12.49 | nlbags | Telamon: i wasted so much time trying to get a * box behind a NAT to work ... really need it to have a public IP |
| 05:12.56 | benjk | you enter an entry in /etc/asterisk/iax.conf |
| 05:13.07 | nlbags | Telamon: i don't see why you'd have trouble if they are behind the same NAT though |
| 05:13.37 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (i=1000@66.11.164.239) |
| 05:13.47 | benjk | nlbags: with x-lite YOU ARE BOUND to have trouble if your xlite and your server is on the same LAN |
| 05:13.53 | LBX | benjk is adding an IAX account similiar to adding a SIP account |
| 05:13.59 | Qwell[] | benjk: how so? |
| 05:14.08 | benjk | because X-Lite discovers the NAT and adds NAT settings that you don't want |
| 05:14.16 | Qwell[] | Not if you disable that functionality... |
| 05:14.18 | Telamon | nlbags: The phones are behind the same NAT, but the asterisk server is not. |
| 05:14.21 | benjk | LBX, yes it is |
| 05:14.31 | nlbags | Telamon: ok now i see |
| 05:14.42 | benjk | Qwell: if you know how to disable it, fine, but 99% of users wouldn't be able to |
| 05:15.00 | nlbags | benjk: thats interesting. ... i've only used softphones and linksys PAP2s |
| 05:15.00 | benjk | X-Lite can be very uh, persistent |
| 05:15.28 | nlbags | benjk: that *nasty* |
| 05:15.46 | benjk | I am using X-lite to connect to an Asterisk server that is ON THE SAME machine |
| 05:15.48 | LBX | Do I need to register a FireFly number to use it as an IAX client? |
| 05:15.50 | strain17 | «benjk» mind if i private message you ? |
| 05:16.09 | wasim | ooh ... kinky |
| 05:16.11 | benjk | that was a real pain to configure |
| 05:16.33 | benjk | LBX, no, use the third party optioon\ |
| 05:16.44 | benjk | or "other network" whatever it is called |
| 05:16.51 | nlbags | benjk: ok i see, x-lite is a softphone right??? |
| 05:17.03 | benjk | otherwise Firefly will be auto-configured to connect to the Firefly servers |
| 05:17.14 | LBX | It asks |
| 05:17.15 | benjk | nlbags: yes X-lite is a softphone |
| 05:17.21 | LBX | I want to register a new firefly phone number |
| 05:17.25 | LBX | or I already have an existing |
| 05:17.27 | benjk | No |
| 05:17.29 | LBX | only choices |
| 05:17.35 | benjk | you do not want a Firefly phone number |
| 05:17.43 | nlbags | benjk: ok, well changing uncooperative software is usually easier than changing hardware |
| 05:17.48 | benjk | you want "other network" |
| 05:18.05 | benjk | nlbags: not for ordinary users though |
| 05:18.28 | nlbags | benjk: yeah i guess ... not if u have a lot of them anyway |
| 05:18.30 | LBX | benjk there is nothing for another network |
| 05:18.37 | benjk | strain17: there are so many people who message me privately, I'd prefer you'd rather not, what do you want to know |
| 05:18.39 | LBX | it's either existing firefly user or get one |
| 05:19.09 | benjk | LBX, I don't have Windows, so I cant run Firefly to check |
| 05:19.22 | strain17 | «benjk» trying to build a zero latency box that will run off satellite service |
| 05:19.25 | benjk | but there is an option to bypass the firefly service |
| 05:19.36 | nlbags | my genuine digium card still has shocking echos here in australia ... i've fiddled the settings a lot ... havn't adjusted the gains though ... think it'll help? |
| 05:19.49 | Qwell[] | nlbags: changing gain will definitely help |
| 05:19.56 | benjk | strain17, you should be talking to a friend of mine who is doing both Asterisk and Satellite services |
| 05:20.00 | nlbags | thanks |
| 05:20.02 | Qwell[] | nlbags: find an echo howto, or see if you can find x-rob |
| 05:20.17 | strain17 | «benjk» i would appreciate that alot if you can refer me to him |
| 05:20.25 | Qwell[] | x-rob is the self proclaimed "god of echo" |
| 05:20.25 | nlbags | Qwell[]: yeah i saw a howto, tried all the other things but not the gain |
| 05:20.37 | benjk | strain17, are you on AIM? |
| 05:20.48 | strain17 | «benjk» u can private message me on MSN, yahoo and ICQ |
| 05:20.50 | strain17 | oh ... |
| 05:20.55 | strain17 | no AIM :( |
| 05:21.07 | Qwell[] | zero latency over sat? |
| 05:21.09 | Corydon76-home | zero latency on satellite, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 05:21.14 | Qwell[] | yeah...no kidding |
| 05:21.18 | benjk | I have neither of those, and I only know John's AIM address (that's the satellite guy) |
| 05:21.38 | benjk | Qwell: he said zero latency device |
| 05:21.48 | benjk | not zero latency connection |
| 05:21.54 | Corydon76-home | Ye canna break the laws o' physics, Captain! |
| 05:22.13 | nlbags | Qwell[]: so when i'm tweaking the gain, i should still leave echo cancellation on right? .... what about echo training? |
| 05:22.24 | Qwell[] | nlbags: got me |
| 05:22.37 | Corydon76-home | benjk: you still can't break the laws of physics |
| 05:22.41 | benjk | LBX: did you find how to bypass the firefly (default) network |
| 05:22.55 | LBX | No, I don't see it anywhere. |
| 05:22.56 | nlbags | Qwell[]: ok, well they say you probably should never turn the cancellation off |
| 05:23.06 | Qwell[] | then don't turn it off |
| 05:23.08 | benjk | Cory: zero latency is a similar term to real-time |
| 05:23.12 | benjk | there is no such thing |
| 05:23.13 | LBX | Even though their site says they do fully support other SIP and IAX protocools |
| 05:23.35 | benjk | but we use those terms anyway to mean "almost zero-latency" and "almost real-time" |
| 05:24.08 | strain17 | yeah ... the latency with satellite is there ... thats why trying to minimize every other latency as much as possible |
| 05:24.17 | benjk | LBX, you should be able to change this afterwards using "Preferences" or "Properties" or something like that |
| 05:24.27 | LBX | You can't |
| 05:24.31 | LBX | Nothing under Options |
| 05:24.46 | benjk | Anybody from Melbourne here? |
| 05:24.49 | benjk | or OZ |
| 05:24.53 | strain17 | «benjk» does John do this for business or as a hobby |
| 05:24.57 | LBX | Does it have anything to do with port? |
| 05:25.00 | benjk | for business |
| 05:25.34 | benjk | LBX, does it have a "user accounts" or "user profiles" menu? |
| 05:25.54 | LBX | No |
| 05:25.57 | LBX | benjk look at this |
| 05:25.58 | LBX | http://www.freshtel.net/support/technical/SIP%20and%20IAX%20default%20settings.pdf |
| 05:26.28 | benjk | Did you download the Freshtel version? |
| 05:26.38 | benjk | I think that is only for Freshtel |
| 05:26.55 | benjk | there is a generic version at Virbiage's website |
| 05:29.41 | YoMama | bah |
| 05:30.11 | LBX | Virbiage does Cubix |
| 05:31.02 | benjk | Ooops |
| 05:31.11 | benjk | they must have changed the name |
| 05:31.22 | benjk | Virbiage are the authors of Firefly |
| 05:31.31 | benjk | their website also changed totally |
| 05:32.32 | nlbags | do i need a soundcard to use ztmonitor? |
| 05:32.38 | nlbags | Unable to open /dev/dsp: No such device |
| 05:33.32 | *** join/#asterisk ptiggerdine (n=nemisus@203-206-119-211.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 05:33.51 | LBX | benjk |
| 05:33.56 | LBX | Can you use skype for sip or iax? |
| 05:34.07 | nlbags | skype is skype |
| 05:35.20 | tainted_ | how do i do echo cancellation for sip channels? |
| 05:35.24 | tainted_ | is it even possible? |
| 05:35.44 | benjk | Skype is skype, proprietary, bloatware, closed, incompatible with everything |
| 05:36.01 | tainted_ | skype is suck |
| 05:36.01 | nlbags | tainted_: shouldn't be needed |
| 05:36.16 | nlbags | tainted_: you might have latency problems |
| 05:36.26 | nlbags | tainted_: or bandwidth problems |
| 05:36.27 | mog_home | you can only echo cancel analog |
| 05:36.29 | mog_home | not digital |
| 05:36.52 | tainted_ | ;k |
| 05:37.01 | tainted_ | i am 17ms from my provder |
| 05:37.11 | tainted_ | must be something upstream from them |
| 05:37.36 | nlbags | tainted_: do u have enough bandwidth? |
| 05:37.40 | *** join/#asterisk ComputerWarm (n=workingg@66.244.235.210) |
| 05:37.48 | LBX | benjk what is another program I can use with IAX? |
| 05:37.50 | nlbags | tainted_: is the bandwidth shared? |
| 05:37.59 | tainted_ | no |
| 05:38.03 | Qwell[] | LBX: iaxcomm |
| 05:38.06 | nlbags | tainted_: traffic shaping helps if its a DSL line i find |
| 05:38.29 | tainted_ | it's a level(3) colo |
| 05:38.39 | YoMama | bah |
| 05:38.41 | tainted_ | what traffic shaping tools are available? |
| 05:39.03 | tainted_ | i thought QoS has to be end-to-end to be effective |
| 05:39.25 | nlbags | i use a custom script ... which is kind-of a hybrid of 'wondershaper' (google it) and something else i found |
| 05:39.37 | nlbags | man i can't stand an ADSL like without traffic shaping |
| 05:39.42 | nlbags | *line |
| 05:41.20 | tainted_ | wow |
| 05:41.25 | tainted_ | what kind of overhead? |
| 05:41.48 | LBX | Okay, thanks |
| 05:41.49 | nlbags | tainted_: all the ISPs here seem to have a queue of about 4seconds ... so as soon as you start a download from a good source you can't do anything else |
| 05:41.52 | LBX | Is there anything else for IAX? |
| 05:42.29 | nlbags | tainted_: you have to knock 1-2kbps off your downstream bandwidth otherwise it won't work (it'll still queue at your ISP) |
| 05:42.29 | *** join/#asterisk morale (i=russell@S010600111155e117.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 05:42.57 | nlbags | tainted_: uploads are great, you can prioritise however you like |
| 05:43.00 | tainted_ | i see |
| 05:43.35 | nlbags | tainted_: but you have to knock a bit off the bandwidth there too so the packets don't queue in your modem |
| 05:45.22 | strain17 | «nlbags» u built ur script of wonder ? |
| 05:45.37 | strain17 | «benjk» can u get me in touch with your friend ? |
| 05:46.54 | benjk | strain17, get yourself an AIM account and I'll pass it on |
| 05:47.15 | benjk | LBX there are quite a few IAX softphones for Windows |
| 05:47.22 | nlbags | strain17: yeah i started with wonder ... i can give you my script if u want |
| 05:47.27 | benjk | check Voip-info.org |
| 05:47.42 | LBX | I'm worred that he won't be able to set up an IAX account for me in the iax.conf file |
| 05:48.02 | benjk | LBX, it's the easiest thing to do |
| 05:49.10 | LBX | Oh benjk |
| 05:49.16 | LBX | I just got onto the asterisk server |
| 05:49.41 | benjk | with X-lite or Firefly? |
| 05:49.48 | LBX | Oh no |
| 05:49.50 | LBX | With SSH |
| 05:49.50 | LBX | lol |
| 05:49.51 | Qwell[] | with ssh is my guess |
| 05:50.06 | strain17 | «nlbags» please do, it would be a good point for reference for me |
| 05:50.46 | LBX | benjk can u tell me how to add a iax account for me |
| 05:50.59 | *** join/#asterisk toddf (n=toddf@tigger.fries.net) |
| 05:51.05 | Qwell[] | if you're on the server, why not just debug the SIP? |
| 05:51.43 | nlbags | strain17: ok i'll just clean it up a bit then give you a URL |
| 05:51.51 | LBX | oh god because if i messed it up |
| 05:51.53 | strain17 | sounds good |
| 05:51.55 | LBX | there would be big issues |
| 05:52.49 | strain17 | «nlbags» whts the best traffic shaper you've ever used ? (don't tell me urs :P) |
| 05:53.06 | LBX | can u tell me how |
| 05:53.15 | LBX | right now I see like |
| 05:53.26 | LBX | bind port, bindaddr, disallow, etc |
| 05:53.32 | nlbags | well i guess i just won't answer your question ;) ... i've used wondershaper and mine ... never used any proper QoS stuff |
| 05:53.52 | strain17 | i see |
| 05:55.55 | strain17 | «nlbags» feel free to private message me the URL when you are done ... or your IM info ... we talk more |
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| 05:58.26 | kusznir | Hi all: Does anyone know where to go to get support for connecting * to FWD via IAX? |
| 05:58.26 | LBX | benjk |
| 05:58.26 | Qwell[] | kusznir: fwd has a document |
| 05:58.53 | LBX | Or Qwell |
| 05:58.53 | nlbags | strain17: http://n3il.com/shaper |
| 05:59.16 | LBX | Do you know if you can add a IAX account in the Asterisk GUI |
| 05:59.16 | nlbags | strain17: you also need iproute2 |
| 05:59.16 | strain17 | ok |
| 05:59.27 | kusznir | Quell[] I have read fwd's document; unfortunately I'm having problems that look like my account isn't being created. |
| 05:59.27 | nlbags | strain17: and stuff in your kernel .. .can't remember what, probably read the wondershaper docs for that |
| 06:00.09 | strain17 | ok |
| 06:00.14 | strain17 | u've ever used this for VPN ? |
| 06:00.16 | Guest^DJ | why is it FXS is more expensive than FXO |
| 06:00.37 | nlbags | Guest^DJ: maybe they don't make as many? (guess) |
| 06:00.56 | kusznir | Qwell[]: I keep getting "Registration of <fwd#> rejected: Registration Refused", and I've activated IAX and stuff, so I was looking for someone whou might be able to check their server config or at least logs. |
| 06:01.07 | Guest^DJ | a typical user would need more FXS than FXO |
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| 06:08.25 | LBX | Asterisk does have a GUI |
| 06:08.35 | coppice | asterisk doesn't. third parties do |
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| 06:15.27 | benjk_ | LBX did you get my last message, about the IAX account setup? |
| 06:17.04 | LBX | no benjk_ |
| 06:17.12 | LBX | please tell me |
| 06:17.29 | benjk_ | all you need is this: (everything on a separate line!!!) ... |
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| 06:18.31 | benjk_ | [fred-flintstone] type=friend auth=md5 secret=blahblah host=dynamic disallow=all allow=ulaw context=your-context |
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| 06:18.51 | benjk_ | then fred-flintstone will be your user name |
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| 06:18.59 | benjk_ | blahblah is your password |
| 06:19.03 | mog_home | bleh i hate irc |
| 06:19.29 | benjk_ | and your-context is the section in the dialplan (extensions.conf) where your extension resides |
| 06:19.42 | benjk_ | mog: AMEN |
| 06:19.48 | mog_home | then only outlaws would use irc |
| 06:19.58 | benjk_ | that would make it only worse, mog |
| 06:19.58 | mog_home | we could all move to something more sensible / reliable |
| 06:20.00 | mog_home | like irc |
| 06:20.04 | mog_home | err jabber |
| 06:20.17 | benjk_ | yeah, a jabber conference would be great |
| 06:20.34 | benjk_ | does anybody know of a permanent jabber conference setup? |
| 06:20.47 | mog_home | well there is one on jabber.org i believe |
| 06:20.47 | infinity1 | mog: dont lie. You want to turn the clock back 10 years and colide me |
| 06:21.00 | mog_home | colide you? |
| 06:21.02 | benjk_ | I set up a jabber server but I have no clue how to configure a permanent conference room, if it is even possible |
| 06:21.10 | mog_home | man ten years ago i was 11 |
| 06:21.15 | mog_home | it is possible |
| 06:21.17 | mog_home | its easy |
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| 06:21.36 | mog_home | jabber will never be popular though as long as things like freenode exist |
| 06:21.39 | benjk_ | guess, I need to find a volunteer to set it up properly |
| 06:21.40 | mog_home | irc just has the community |
| 06:21.47 | benjk_ | I don't care |
| 06:21.54 | mog_home | and thats all that matters not the technology |
| 06:21.56 | benjk_ | for my community, IRC is a no go |
| 06:22.01 | mog_home | or the fact it doesnt always work |
| 06:22.14 | benjk_ | the only thing that matters on the Mac is USER FRIENDLINESS |
| 06:22.27 | mog_home | there is a really user friendly one for the mac |
| 06:22.28 | infinity1 | mog_home: irc doesn't always work? seems good to me |
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| 06:22.42 | mog_home | we just had 80 people drop in the channel |
| 06:22.45 | mog_home | how is that working? |
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| 06:23.00 | infinity1 | mog_home: oh ..well, their loss, our gain :) |
| 06:23.03 | benjk_ | getting kicked off and having to register nick names by typing commands and all that sort of thing is not what Mac users call user friendly |
| 06:23.20 | mog_home | umm there is a client for the mac that handles all that for you ben |
| 06:23.24 | mog_home | its C something |
| 06:23.26 | Corydon76-home | mog_home: we also had advance warning that drop was going to happen |
| 06:23.27 | mog_home | cresl1n uses it |
| 06:23.34 | mog_home | I know |
| 06:23.38 | mog_home | but netsplits etc |
| 06:23.42 | benjk_ | I have tried just about all clients on the Mac and they all suck at least mildly |
| 06:23.44 | mog_home | are routine around here |
| 06:23.48 | mog_home | its just annoying |
| 06:23.57 | infinity1 | i would guess most clients would handle that for you as long as you spend the time to script it |
| 06:23.58 | litage | is it true that H.323 doesn't allow signalling and RTP to take different paths? |
| 06:24.00 | Corydon76-home | benjk_: my registrations are all automated |
| 06:24.10 | benjk_ | then again, its the total experience that counts, not just the client |
| 06:24.13 | Corydon76-home | benjk_: I don't have to do anything... ;-) |
| 06:24.20 | mog_home | as are mine most do it for you |
| 06:24.30 | mog_home | or have option to |
| 06:25.01 | benjk_ | everybody was talking about Colloquy and how nice it was |
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| 06:25.06 | mog_home | thats what it was |
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| 06:25.13 | benjk_ | but it freezes all the time |
| 06:25.15 | infinity1 | its nice irc has matured though. i was too chaotic in the 90s |
| 06:25.16 | mog_home | colloquy can take care of most of that for you |
| 06:25.19 | benjk_ | have to force quit it |
| 06:25.22 | mog_home | bah |
| 06:25.27 | benjk_ | if it doesn't freeze |
| 06:25.29 | mog_home | ive never seen it crash on cresl1n |
| 06:25.36 | benjk_ | and Xirc has a memory leak |
| 06:25.39 | *** join/#asterisk znoG (n=gs@OL101-122.fibertel.com.ar) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.45 | mog_home | x-chat? |
| 06:26.06 | benjk_ | you leave it on over night, and when you come back it has eaten a gig or ram like nothing and your machine is incredibly slow |
| 06:26.07 | kusznir | Anyone know when IAXtel will be back up? |
| 06:26.14 | *** join/#asterisk clinthome (n=clinthom@va-chrvlle-cad1-bdgrp5-8d-209.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 06:26.18 | benjk_ | x-chat has too many windows |
| 06:26.24 | benjk_ | messy to use |
| 06:26.25 | wasim | irssi |
| 06:26.27 | infinity1 | irssi |
| 06:26.31 | benjk_ | its a geek tool |
| 06:26.34 | mog_home | ben can you say something postive? |
| 06:26.44 | mog_home | i mean i think my head would explode.... |
| 06:26.48 | mog_home | ^_^ |
| 06:26.50 | coppice | most of the IRC client go bananas when you type anything but english |
| 06:26.51 | benjk_ | not about the user experience on IRC, no I'm afraid |
| 06:26.55 | Corydon76-home | benjk_: Try KSirc, then |
| 06:27.09 | benjk_ | coppice: yeah that's a problem too |
| 06:27.12 | wolfson | I have nothing against mac users, but your comments are making them sound like they are all simple and stupid |
| 06:27.28 | mog_home | well irc is ment for geeks |
| 06:27.31 | Vco | the macs or the users? |
| 06:27.31 | benjk_ | let me try some Chinese |
| 06:27.32 | Corydon76-home | coppice: and you have a 30,000 character keyboard for Chinese? ;-) |
| 06:27.47 | mog_home | man that would be cool to have corydon |
| 06:27.51 | coppice | wolfson: so you would expect them to be fundamentally different from users of other platforms? :-) |
| 06:27.53 | mog_home | never use it |
| 06:27.59 | mog_home | but just like have it |
| 06:28.07 | mog_home | oh that i use it when i want to type chinese.... |
| 06:28.13 | coppice | Corydon-76-home: you can type chinese on a 5 key keypad |
| 06:28.16 | Corydon76-home | mog_home: would that even fit in your house? |
| 06:28.22 | wolfson | just odd for a mac user to make mac users sound simple, its normally the opposite |
| 06:28.35 | mog_home | kram!!! |
| 06:29.12 | *** join/#asterisk PakiPenguin (n=pingu@linuxpakistan/admin/pakipenguin) |
| 06:29.15 | PakiPenguin | hello everyone |
| 06:29.23 | Vco | http://www.ymouse.com/xkeys/xk12884.php |
| 06:29.33 | Vco | just daisy chain a bunch of these together |
| 06:29.43 | benjk_ | coppice: did that come through? |
| 06:29.55 | *** kick/#asterisk [bbz!n=mark@pdpc/sponsor/digium/kram] by kram (kram) |
| 06:29.55 | *** join/#asterisk bbz (i=badboyz@adsl-70-128-78-21.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) |
| 06:30.01 | Vco | actually, i was thinking one of these would be col for a switchboard kinda thing... |
| 06:30.02 | Vco | http://www.ymouse.com/xkeys/xkpro.php |
| 06:30.06 | benjk_ | THANK YOU MARK |
| 06:30.19 | *** mode/#asterisk [+b *!*=badboyz@*.stlsmo.swbell.net] by kram |
| 06:30.23 | *** kick/#asterisk [bbz!n=mark@pdpc/sponsor/digium/kram] by kram (kram) |
| 06:30.27 | kram | there we go |
| 06:30.52 | coppice | benjk: no, but since i know I can display chinese, i think the problem is at your end |
| 06:31.09 | PakiPenguin | i am having trouble with asterisk , it crashes down after some time , with this error Nov 24 08:03:53 WARNING[8572]: rtp.c:829 ast_rtcp_new: Unable to allocate socket: Too many open files |
| 06:31.17 | PakiPenguin | is there anything i can do to it? |
| 06:31.29 | Corydon76-home | Are you running 1.2? |
| 06:31.29 | mog_home | isnt there a way to up that limit |
| 06:31.30 | Vco | close some files? |
| 06:31.36 | mog_home | like ulimit or something |
| 06:31.42 | PakiPenguin | mog_home : already did that to 65536 |
| 06:31.42 | benjk_ | wolfson: has it ever occured to you for only one second that there are intelligent people who have more important things to do than learning about computer stuff? |
| 06:31.55 | PakiPenguin | ulimit -n 65536 |
| 06:32.02 | mog_home | yeah thats it |
| 06:32.07 | mog_home | and you run asterisk as root? |
| 06:32.07 | PakiPenguin | but it didnt work out well , it crashed today again :( |
| 06:32.09 | Corydon76-home | ulimit -n unlimited |
| 06:32.15 | mog_home | can you do that? |
| 06:32.16 | benjk_ | people who just want to use something and not worry about how it works? |
| 06:32.19 | Corydon76-home | PakiPenguin: 1.2.0? |
| 06:32.27 | orlock | hmm |
| 06:32.28 | PakiPenguin | nope Corydon-w : 1.0.9 |
| 06:32.30 | *** join/#asterisk marv (n=ilovekim@pcp01529782pcs.huntsv01.al.comcast.net) |
| 06:32.46 | orlock | benjk_: playing with software pabx's probably isnt for them i'd say :) |
| 06:32.57 | _CRC_ | re orlock |
| 06:33.02 | orlock | hey crc |
| 06:33.06 | coppice | benjk: ä¸æ–‡ works here |
| 06:33.07 | Corydon76-home | You realize 1.2.0 is now the maintained frozen version, and 1.0.9 only gets security fixes, right? |
| 06:33.13 | benjk_ | No, but *USING* a software PBX is intersting for quite a few of them |
| 06:33.14 | _CRC_ | orlock: long time no see. |
| 06:33.20 | orlock | yeah |
| 06:33.30 | PakiPenguin | Corydon-w: you say its related to 1.0.9? |
| 06:33.34 | benjk_ | coppice: your hanzi come back garbled though |
| 06:33.41 | _CRC_ | still working for that PC mob? |
| 06:33.48 | Corydon76-home | No, I'm saying check if it still occurs with 1.2 |
| 06:33.49 | Vco | umm..i think the same kind of applies for driving a car though |
| 06:34.03 | coppice | benjk: I think your system is not expecting UTF-8 |
| 06:34.06 | PakiPenguin | i see |
| 06:34.08 | orlock | benjk_: there are differences between telco style systems to, some people can adapt to greater flexibility, others cant |
| 06:34.35 | orlock | _CRC_: well, not really a pc mob, but i havent gotten a new job in 5 or so years :) |
| 06:34.42 | _CRC_ | ahhhh ;P |
| 06:34.55 | _CRC_ | I'm still at the same place - but it's getting long in the tooth. |
| 06:34.58 | orlock | Vco: "auto or manual" :) |
| 06:34.59 | benjk_ | coppice: unlikely, on the Mac everything is UTF8 these days by default, also I could see the hanzi I sent to you nicely once they showed up posted |
| 06:35.12 | Vco | i prefer manual to "drive" |
| 06:35.18 | mog_home | damn utf-8 |
| 06:35.19 | orlock | yeah |
| 06:35.25 | Vco | but auto when i'm running around doing b.s. |
| 06:35.27 | orlock | i prefer to drive rather than just steer |
| 06:35.27 | mog_home | why cant everyone just use ASCII |
| 06:35.38 | mog_home | 256 is good enough for me.... |
| 06:35.41 | _CRC_ | whereas I hate manual, cos I can't play with my toys etc while using a stick shift :p |
| 06:35.46 | benjk_ | because ASCII doens't have enough room |
| 06:35.52 | mog_home | you have a whole byte benjk |
| 06:35.58 | mog_home | what doesnt fit in a byte ^_^ |
| 06:36.00 | orlock | _CRC_: you need a driver :) |
| 06:36.06 | _CRC_ | orlock: exactly! |
| 06:36.21 | litage | is there a router or switch (with no FXO/FXS ports) in particular that happens to work well with voip and *? |
| 06:36.23 | orlock | one to stand out he sunroof holding the dish |
| 06:36.27 | Vco | this geartronic thing doesn't count tho |
| 06:36.27 | orlock | he other holding the wheel |
| 06:36.30 | _CRC_ | hahahah |
| 06:36.30 | orlock | or something :) |
| 06:36.32 | Vco | it's "sorta manual" |
| 06:36.42 | Vco | very video-game |
| 06:36.49 | orlock | _CRC_: theres a "makeout point" kinda place up on mt dandenong |
| 06:37.03 | orlock | went there one night with a mate in his late modem turbo saab (work car) |
| 06:37.18 | _CRC_ | orlock: sky high? |
| 06:37.27 | orlock | it actually took about 10 minutes before we started getting weird looks from other cars |
| 06:37.29 | orlock | nuh |
| 06:37.32 | orlock | just some carpark |
| 06:37.33 | Vco | hahah |
| 06:37.41 | orlock | so a few dozen cars+bogans+etc |
| 06:37.43 | _CRC_ | orlock: with what gear? |
| 06:38.02 | orlock | modified sat.tv dish |
| 06:38.13 | _CRC_ | m'kay |
| 06:38.14 | orlock | few laptops, invertor, gps, etc etc etc |
| 06:38.17 | _CRC_ | heh |
| 06:38.34 | _CRC_ | it kinda gets like that :p |
| 06:38.37 | orlock | yeah |
| 06:38.48 | orlock | got a reradiating antenna for the gps |
| 06:39.01 | _CRC_ | I just have an active antenna outside |
| 06:39.09 | _CRC_ | then again, I built this GPS lol |
| 06:39.14 | orlock | this i can move anywhere, between cars, etc easy |
| 06:39.18 | orlock | and works with any gps |
| 06:39.19 | _CRC_ | good old DSE jiffy boxes :p |
| 06:39.26 | orlock | so i considered it a worthwhile investment |
| 06:39.32 | _CRC_ | yah. |
| 06:39.39 | _CRC_ | I'd hate to change cars :P |
| 06:39.47 | _CRC_ | waaaaayy too much gear to relocate. lol |
| 06:39.49 | orlock | you using an aussie sip provider? |
| 06:39.52 | _CRC_ | yah |
| 06:39.57 | orlock | who? |
| 06:40.01 | _CRC_ | engin |
| 06:40.06 | orlock | ahh |
| 06:40.08 | _CRC_ | the BYO deals |
| 06:40.11 | orlock | hmm |
| 06:40.21 | orlock | time to take this out of the public eye methinks :) |
| 06:40.40 | alephcom | Gives us something to keep from getting bored. :-) |
| 06:40.44 | _CRC_ | $9.95pm with DID and $0.10 nationwide untimed |
| 06:43.11 | *** join/#asterisk carfoo (n=clarke@netblock-72-25-87-33.dslextreme.com) |
| 06:45.11 | *** join/#asterisk asterboy (n=Snake@S01060204ee2b6007.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 06:45.25 | orlock | NEXTEP |
| 06:45.27 | orlock | doh |
| 06:50.58 | alephcom | OSCommerce Rules! I know it is not on topic but it looks like it will integrate into ASTPP very well. Sweet.. :-) |
| 06:51.05 | *** join/#asterisk adelas (n=booger@rrcs-24-199-21-141.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 06:59.26 | mog_home | oscommerce is cool |
| 06:59.29 | mog_home | but at same time |
| 06:59.37 | mog_home | all oscommerce sites look almost exactly the same |
| 06:59.59 | mog_home | is a pretty kick ass oss project though |
| 07:01.25 | stkn_ | the next release (early 2006 afaik) will have a template engine |
| 07:01.36 | mog_home | i thought it had one already |
| 07:01.47 | mog_home | its just the diff templates all look alot alike |
| 07:01.59 | mog_home | at least to someone who uses it ^_^ |
| 07:02.18 | stkn_ | nope, that's only css |
| 07:02.44 | stkn_ | for the rest you'll have to hack the sources |
| 07:04.21 | alephcom | Ok, well, I probably won't be completed the switch until the end of 05 anyways. |
| 07:07.01 | *** join/#asterisk lehel (n=mey@86.125.98.100) |
| 07:07.07 | lehel | hello |
| 07:07.17 | mog_home | hi |
| 07:09.06 | litage | is it true that H.323 doesn't allow signalling and RTP to take different paths? |
| 07:09.21 | suma | means ? |
| 07:09.43 | suma | it can pass through a H.323 gateway |
| 07:09.52 | suma | need not be direct peer to peer |
| 07:10.06 | coppice | litage no |
| 07:10.08 | _CRC_ | man I love that. |
| 07:10.28 | _CRC_ | going through my junkbox to find some stuff and I just happen to find what I needed.... 2 x DB9s + backshells :p |
| 07:11.21 | suma | Will IAX work behind a firewall, just like plug and play skype ! |
| 07:11.48 | *** join/#asterisk _Madar (n=tophe@219-84-129-163-adsl-tpe.static.so-net.net.tw) |
| 07:12.02 | mog_home | no it works better than skype |
| 07:12.07 | *** join/#asterisk JunK-Y (n=junky@67.71.158.165) |
| 07:12.09 | JunK-Y | yo |
| 07:12.13 | mog_home | oy |
| 07:13.07 | litage | coppice: really? last night ikarus said H.323 requires the signalling and RTP to use the same path...who's correct? :0 |
| 07:13.59 | benjk_ | litage: if H.323 did that, it would actually be a good protocol |
| 07:14.01 | benjk_ | :-) |
| 07:14.29 | litage | benjk: shwa? isn't it an advantage for the signalling and RTP to take different paths? |
| 07:14.32 | coppice | benjk: no it wouldn't. signalling and audio being tied to the same path is stupid |
| 07:14.59 | benjk_ | stkn, tell me more about "template engine" |
| 07:16.22 | benjk_ | coppice: for the purpose H.323 is for (incumbent fat ass telecom carrier backbones) that is true |
| 07:16.47 | benjk_ | but for the purpose of the telephone network of the future it is a crap design |
| 07:17.17 | coppice | its true generally. audio should be peer to peer. switches are a completely separate thing |
| 07:17.19 | benjk_ | llitage: only if you think like an incumbent fat ass telco |
| 07:17.49 | benjk_ | in a TCP/IP network who needs switches other than the routers that pass the audio on? |
| 07:18.03 | coppice | switches let people find each other |
| 07:18.14 | benjk_ | this is only relevant for as long as there is still circuit switched networks around |
| 07:18.34 | benjk_ | it will become irrelevant when everything goes packet switched though |
| 07:19.02 | litage | benjk_: in which situation, and why, would you want signalling and RTP on the same path? |
| 07:19.09 | benjk_ | things like ENUM can do that and then let them got p2p for the entire control of the call |
| 07:19.15 | LBX | benjk_ |
| 07:19.18 | LBX | I have to use SIP |
| 07:19.24 | coppice | benjk: not true. if I plug my notebook into a port in some far flug corner of the globe, how to people find me? registering with a switch is a workable solution |
| 07:20.06 | benjk_ | but that is only needed to find you -- you can do that entirely BEFORE call setup is done |
| 07:20.33 | benjk_ | once you found your party, you don't need any middle point for control |
| 07:20.42 | benjk_ | unless you want to charge people |
| 07:20.47 | benjk_ | which is ridiculous |
| 07:21.23 | benjk_ | because if the audio goes peer to peer why would I want to pay a party that just rid itself of serving the audio to me? |
| 07:21.24 | LBX | benjk_ |
| 07:21.30 | LBX | It's Asterisk@Home |
| 07:21.38 | coppice | benjk: sure. the charging is ridiculous |
| 07:21.56 | alephcom | Hey, don't destroy my living. :-) |
| 07:22.00 | benjk_ | its like your local post office tells you how to deliver your letters yourself, BUT they still want you to pay the postage |
| 07:23.06 | coppice | alephcom: if your living relies on providing nothing more than switching of IP calls, don't expect to be employed too long |
| 07:23.09 | benjk_ | I'd be happy to pay them a very modest fee for the service of telling me how to deliver the letter, but per address query, not per letter, not for weight and size of the payload |
| 07:23.20 | wolfson | and who is going to prevent abuse in this setup |
| 07:23.29 | wolfson | you now have the same distributed system we have with e-mail |
| 07:23.36 | coppice | abuse of what? |
| 07:23.44 | alephcom | It doesn't, I was putting myself in "someones" shoes. :-) |
| 07:23.46 | wolfson | some idiot calling you 10k times |
| 07:23.55 | Vco | ? |
| 07:24.03 | benjk_ | wolfson, voice is not like email |
| 07:24.22 | *** join/#asterisk d-tech (n=dtc@node-423a1ebb.cle.onnet.us.uu.net) |
| 07:24.31 | benjk_ | if you get something in your email inbox, you have to look at it and get rid of it |
| 07:24.36 | wolfson | I would see it as even harder to deal with, since you can pre filter content |
| 07:24.48 | wolfson | you have to actually have something answer the call |
| 07:24.51 | benjk_ | if you get a call you don't want it can be automatically routed to an auto-attendant |
| 07:25.09 | coppice | you pre-filter phone calls. what's different? |
| 07:25.12 | benjk_ | the only thing that needs to be solid is caller authetication |
| 07:25.25 | wolfson | exactly, who's going to authenticate it? |
| 07:25.37 | benjk_ | some entity like verisign |
| 07:25.40 | mog_home | dundi ^_^ 0 auth just community driven |
| 07:25.46 | mog_home | no that would suck benjk |
| 07:25.48 | benjk_ | LBX: I don't do AMP |
| 07:25.49 | alephcom | Lol, please not verisign. |
| 07:26.04 | LBX | What's AMP? |
| 07:26.12 | benjk_ | I didn;t say verisign, I said *some entity* like it |
| 07:26.12 | coppice | there is *no* caller authentication right now |
| 07:26.14 | wolfson | thats the issue with complete decentralization, you loose the ability to easily prove identify |
| 07:26.16 | wolfson | identity |
| 07:26.21 | benjk_ | A@H uses AMP |
| 07:26.28 | alephcom | ok. :-) |
| 07:26.31 | mog_home | true wolfson |
| 07:26.39 | benjk_ | learn how to configure your Asterisk server manually and I can help you |
| 07:26.41 | mog_home | i think in the end though we have two options |
| 07:26.43 | wolfson | if someone can solve that, they will be rich |
| 07:27.00 | benjk_ | if you use AMP and you tell me this or that can't be done, well, there is nothing I can do about it |
| 07:27.20 | benjk_ | not true |
| 07:27.37 | Vco | http://www.muug.mb.ca/pipermail/asterisk/2005-September/000227.html |
| 07:27.49 | benjk_ | if we have a directory service for callers to find each other, then you have a means to authenticate |
| 07:27.49 | Vco | anyone using this ITAD dealio? |
| 07:27.52 | wolfson | http://www.sxip.com/ - check out the identity 2.0 video from that guy. its all about the issue of central authorization. |
| 07:28.35 | benjk_ | I don';t watch videos and I don't give a rat's a$$ what some guy on a video says |
| 07:28.47 | wolfson | its a great talk |
| 07:28.51 | mog_home | heh |
| 07:28.52 | wolfson | gets to the heart of the issue |
| 07:28.52 | benjk_ | I also don't give a rat's a$$ what the pope in rome says |
| 07:28.58 | *** join/#asterisk escribzz (n=escribzz@wsip-24-249-174-19.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 07:29.07 | benjk_ | I think for myself, thank you very much Mr. Pope |
| 07:29.13 | mog_home | hey |
| 07:29.17 | mog_home | dont be knocking my pope |
| 07:29.18 | coppice | centralised authentication is mostly promoted by people trying to sell it |
| 07:29.28 | Vco | you touched that boy on your own accord |
| 07:29.29 | mog_home | agreed coppice |
| 07:29.37 | wolfson | the idea of a digital driver's license. you don't have to call up the issuing authority to verify it. its a way for people to prove who they are, while allowing offline authentication |
| 07:29.57 | benjk_ | the point is that if we want to put a system in place where callers are to be authenticated properly for the purpose of not being routed to IVR by default, then it can be done |
| 07:30.15 | wolfson | I am not entirely sure what their product is, never bothered to read about it, but the identity webcast was good |
| 07:30.25 | benjk_ | it doesn't have to be centralised |
| 07:30.52 | benjk_ | even the idea of ICANN being the only ones who are in charge of DNS root servers is ridiculous |
| 07:30.53 | mog_home | if you ever want to be really sure or have liability it has to be centralized |
| 07:31.22 | wolfson | benjk: and you propose putting who in charge of the root zone? |
| 07:31.23 | mog_home | err really sure who you are talkin to |
| 07:31.26 | benjk_ | there is a second internet out there with domains that the ICANN internet doeasn't have and it works perfectly well |
| 07:32.07 | benjk_ | Besides I wouldn;t trust any US authority with anything |
| 07:32.08 | wolfson | you must have a strange defintion of "perfectly well" seeing as though I surely can't resolve it |
| 07:32.23 | Vco | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.38 | benjk_ | if you point your DNS to their servers you can resolve both internets |
| 07:32.51 | mog_home | who uses this other internet? |
| 07:32.55 | asterboy | what is the DNS address? |
| 07:32.55 | benjk_ | only ICANN refuses to resolve their TLDs |
| 07:32.59 | wolfson | and whats to say they are the ones running the right "second internet" |
| 07:33.09 | mog_home | i mean i know how you can set up your own bind server and have any domain you want |
| 07:33.15 | mog_home | but if you dont have users who cares |
| 07:33.18 | wolfson | what if my neigbor bob starts up a second set of roots |
| 07:33.26 | benjk_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root |
| 07:33.27 | mog_home | and decentralizing it just is annoying to all users |
| 07:33.58 | benjk_ | and letting a US governement puppy organisation adminster it is even worse |
| 07:34.09 | wolfson | any company or entity promoting the use of alternate root servers is entirely out of touch |
| 07:34.14 | benjk_ | US authorities suck balls |
| 07:34.15 | Vco | where? I would imaging your name serverw ould be the ones forwarding off the requests for the alterate domains |
| 07:34.21 | mog_home | hmm most of these have closed up |
| 07:34.23 | Vco | name servers would |
| 07:34.25 | mog_home | or they are a mirror |
| 07:34.26 | Vco | even |
| 07:34.28 | LBX | benjkt_ |
| 07:34.36 | LBX | Since it may be a problem with my NAT firewall |
| 07:34.45 | mog_home | i dont see why anyone cares it is american |
| 07:34.46 | LBX | If I connect directly to a modem should I be able to use SIP? |
| 07:34.53 | mog_home | do people care about ansi C standards? |
| 07:35.08 | mog_home | or any other global standards that are set in america? |
| 07:35.14 | wolfson | its not like they are mismanaging the root zone |
| 07:35.25 | mog_home | i mean usually standards are made to help people work together not screw others |
| 07:35.27 | benjk_ | LBX, if you don't know networking, you should do either of two things: 1) learn networking 2) use a protocol that is user friendly and doesn't require you to know |
| 07:35.34 | wolfson | reasonable proposals for new tld's are approved quite regularly |
| 07:36.04 | wolfson | and I am not aware of a single complete failure |
| 07:36.04 | benjk_ | its not about standards in this case thougth it is about control |
| 07:36.13 | mog_home | heh i wish that would stop to many domains... |
| 07:36.16 | benjk_ | US Nazi government wants to control everything |
| 07:36.24 | mog_home | although i would kill for a .su |
| 07:36.36 | mog_home | i thought it was a company |
| 07:36.39 | wolfson | they built it, why should they have to turn over control |
| 07:36.40 | mog_home | not gov releated |
| 07:36.43 | benjk_ | mog, you can set that up quite easily |
| 07:36.49 | Vco | if it's not a big deal as they are stating ..then way not release some of the control? |
| 07:36.51 | benjk_ | no they didn;'t |
| 07:36.56 | mog_home | i thought it cost 1000+ for a soviet union domain |
| 07:37.03 | benjk_ | the internet is a network of networks |
| 07:37.08 | mog_home | true |
| 07:37.14 | mog_home | but who funded all the advancement |
| 07:37.24 | benjk_ | many of those networks are not built by the US government, the majority |
| 07:37.31 | mog_home | agreed |
| 07:37.31 | Vco | who gives a shit? it's advanced past that point.. |
| 07:37.40 | benjk_ | precisely |
| 07:37.42 | wolfson | benjk: go tell your phone company because you are connected to them, you think you should have a say in how they run their network |
| 07:37.57 | wolfson | its the same flawed argument |
| 07:38.02 | benjk_ | wolfson that is how telco's deal with each other |
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| 07:38.21 | benjk_ | they have to pay each other for right of way |
| 07:38.23 | wolfson | any any government wanting a root, is given one, and given complete control of it |
| 07:38.29 | mog_home | i mean if you dont want icann to have control |
| 07:38.31 | mog_home | go fork |
| 07:38.32 | wolfson | a tld not root |
| 07:38.33 | benjk_ | and they have to negotiate the terms for right of way |
| 07:38.38 | mog_home | no one is stopping you |
| 07:38.44 | mog_home | and like you already pointed out |
| 07:38.45 | mog_home | people have |
| 07:38.55 | benjk_ | the US wants to have access to networks run under the control on non-US entities |
| 07:39.13 | benjk_ | so they should negotiate right of way, rather tahn dictating |
| 07:39.14 | mog_home | its a us company not THE US |
| 07:39.18 | mog_home | totally different |
| 07:39.24 | wolfson | new company just hit the news today, a new alt root, already selling tld's for $1kus. yet the majority of the people can't see it |
| 07:39.28 | benjk_ | its not that different |
| 07:39.30 | mog_home | i dont think sears or walmart do whats in best intrest of me |
| 07:39.32 | Vco | if us intersts are grounds enough for them to tak eout other media sources in a country, |
| 07:39.38 | mog_home | they do whats in best interest of them |
| 07:39.49 | benjk_ | mog: that's why competition is important |
| 07:39.53 | mog_home | ? |
| 07:39.58 | mog_home | then go compete |
| 07:40.12 | wolfson | give the UN control over the internet and they will do something silly like force rules on interconnections and peering |
| 07:40.14 | mog_home | i just think there is no reason to regulate the internet |
| 07:40.24 | mog_home | and i dont see why icann would ever give in to un |
| 07:40.34 | benjk_ | when customers can vote with their wallet, then the walmarts will more likely think whats good for their customers than otherwise |
| 07:41.06 | benjk_ | wolfson, thats a typical US undemocratic view |
| 07:41.13 | benjk_ | they preach democracy |
| 07:41.33 | mog_home | so vote with your wallet ben |
| 07:41.36 | mog_home | dont support icann |
| 07:41.46 | benjk_ | but when other people elsewhere don't agree with their views, then they don't want to listen |
| 07:42.01 | mog_home | but just like you said |
| 07:42.07 | mog_home | people vote with their wallets |
| 07:42.16 | mog_home | and obviously icann is working in said regard |
| 07:42.18 | wolfson | benjk: actually quite the oposite. no one is forced the rest of the world to interconnect with the internet that started in the US, they choose to connect to it, knowing how it was being ran |
| 07:42.24 | benjk_ | the UN is after all an organisation of governments many of which have been elected |
| 07:42.32 | Vco | everyone should have freedom, democracy and human rights, as long as they are just like us |
| 07:42.38 | benjk_ | thats a lot better than US control |
| 07:42.40 | mog_home | lol vco |
| 07:42.46 | mog_home | we are all individuals |
| 07:42.55 | mog_home | now everyone say it |
| 07:42.56 | benjk_ | because nobody outside the us has a vote in the US |
| 07:43.13 | mog_home | but this is not a case of US control |
| 07:43.15 | mog_home | its a company |
| 07:43.20 | mog_home | it works in all countries |
| 07:43.25 | Vco | AmeriCorp? |
| 07:43.28 | mog_home | it just has us employees |
| 07:43.33 | mog_home | ewww Vco |
| 07:43.34 | benjk_ | wolfson: it doesn;t matter |
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| 07:43.36 | mog_home | thats scary |
| 07:43.37 | lbx | Hey |
| 07:43.43 | mog_home | hi lbx |
| 07:43.55 | lbx | benjk_ |
| 07:43.56 | wolfson | benjk: it matters a whole lot, and its the flaw with your entire pointless argument |
| 07:43.58 | lbx | Are you there? |
| 07:44.07 | Vco | It's like a giant lethargic corporation you pay to work at |
| 07:44.19 | mog_home | i think that would be very creapy |
| 07:44.20 | benjk_ | what ever excuses the US comes up with for controlling affairs outside of their borders, its phoney phoney phoney |
| 07:44.27 | mog_home | if the goverment said they were branching out |
| 07:44.37 | mog_home | and went into biz to compete with walmart |
| 07:44.38 | benjk_ | only if you are a redneck |
| 07:45.02 | lbx | benjk_ |
| 07:45.05 | lbx | can you help me now? |
| 07:45.13 | mog_home | nah hes busy preaching |
| 07:45.17 | lbx | noooo |
| 07:45.19 | mog_home | ^_^ |
| 07:45.23 | lbx | benjk_ it's is almost fixed |
| 07:45.31 | lbx | now there is just one more thing |
| 07:45.31 | benjk_ | if you are not a member of that privileged US white anglo saxon protestant club, then you don't want the US to control your affairs |
| 07:45.52 | mog_home | i dont see how this is "the us" |
| 07:46.00 | mog_home | for example |
| 07:46.03 | mog_home | Nintendo |
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| 07:46.08 | mog_home | is a global org. |
| 07:46.12 | benjk_ | the US government has set up ICANN as a puppet, mog |
| 07:46.17 | lbx | benjk_ |
| 07:46.18 | mog_home | i dont think of it as a japanese product |
| 07:46.20 | mog_home | its just a product |
| 07:46.22 | mog_home | no its not |
| 07:46.27 | wolfson | benjk |
| 07:46.28 | benjk_ | lbx, are you using IAX? |
| 07:46.33 | lbx | NOOOOO |
| 07:46.36 | mog_home | show me an instance of icann acting in said manner |
| 07:46.37 | lbx | SIP |
| 07:46.41 | lbx | And it works now |
| 07:46.49 | lbx | I can hear the person talking in the phone |
| 07:46.56 | lbx | BUT the person on the phone can't hear me talking in the mic |
| 07:46.58 | benjk_ | if not all I will do for you is book you into a networking class at some people's evening college |
| 07:47.16 | lbx | But on x lite I can see the mic thing going up and down. |
| 07:47.23 | lbx | But the person on the phone can't hear me |
| 07:47.28 | mog_home | nat issues strike again |
| 07:47.32 | benjk_ | that doesn't mean anything |
| 07:47.33 | lbx | NO |
| 07:47.35 | wolfson | "ICANN is governed by an internationally diverse Board of Directors overseeing the policy development process. ICANN's President directs an international staff, working from three continents, who ensure that ICANN meets its operational commitment to the Internet community." |
| 07:47.44 | lbx | I am connected directly to a modem |
| 07:47.47 | lbx | Not a router |
| 07:47.50 | lbx | So no NAT issues |
| 07:47.52 | mog_home | amen wolfson |
| 07:47.55 | mog_home | codec issues? |
| 07:48.10 | lbx | What does it mean |
| 07:48.18 | coppice | wolfson: isn't publicity material wonderful? :-) |
| 07:48.18 | mog_home | i dont see how icann can really do much wrong, i mean they just have namespace |
| 07:48.21 | mog_home | people ask |
| 07:48.22 | benjk_ | then you'll need to use ILBC |
| 07:48.22 | mog_home | they give it |
| 07:48.31 | lbx | What is ILBC |
| 07:48.35 | benjk_ | disallow=all allow=ilbc |
| 07:49.03 | lbx | Okay |
| 07:49.09 | lbx | Is this ILBC a local thing I install on my computer? |
| 07:49.16 | wolfson | if the other countries care so much, let them go form their own usfreenet, till then, they have nothing to complain about |
| 07:49.25 | Vco | http://www.icann.org/minutes/ |
| 07:49.25 | benjk_ | no its a codec that comes with Asterisk |
| 07:49.34 | benjk_ | and Xlite has it built in too |
| 07:49.42 | Vco | and they work at such an effective pace |
| 07:49.49 | lbx | So it needs to be installed on the server? |
| 07:50.28 | benjk_ | wlofson, this is precisely the view that makes buildings in New York get taken down by religious fanatics |
| 07:50.39 | coppice | wolfson: well the other countries were expressing their deep displeasure with the status quo a week or two ago |
| 07:50.45 | wolfson | benjk: you are way, way off base now |
| 07:50.51 | Vco | ummm.. |
| 07:50.52 | benjk_ | not at all |
| 07:50.52 | mog_home | i was about to say |
| 07:50.59 | mog_home | what in gods name are you talking about |
| 07:51.02 | Vco | i dont't think he's off base at all |
| 07:51.16 | mog_home | ohhhh |
| 07:51.18 | mog_home | 9/11 |
| 07:51.28 | wolfson | coppice: yah, that was quite interesting, they never did mention what exactly they were upset with how it was being run, just they were not happy they were in on it |
| 07:51.34 | mog_home | i was thinking like a bunch of christians outside of empire state building |
| 07:51.41 | wolfson | but they have the right to complain |
| 07:51.44 | wolfson | like everyone |
| 07:51.48 | benjk_ | I am talking about the fact that the US just walks over other people's concerns to the point where some crazy people will have a gasket blow in their brains |
| 07:51.55 | Vco | it's the same attitude that is being exported by many people that, outside of the borders , becomes the view of america as a whole |
| 07:52.16 | lbx | benjk_ |
| 07:52.23 | benjk_ | I was actually fooled by Bush and those WMDs |
| 07:52.24 | lbx | Should the iLBC codec already be installed on the server? |
| 07:52.39 | mog_home | why he lied about 9/11 why wouldnt he lie about wmds |
| 07:52.39 | benjk_ | I was supporting the war against Iraq for that WMD thing |
| 07:52.45 | benjk_ | because that was the official line |
| 07:52.49 | benjk_ | but they lied |
| 07:52.53 | wolfson | wtf does this have to do with anything |
| 07:52.57 | benjk_ | they purposefully lied |
| 07:52.57 | mog_home | bush has always been a liar |
| 07:53.04 | benjk_ | they forged their intelligence |
| 07:53.04 | mog_home | but this has nothing to do with dns |
| 07:53.14 | Vco | not now... |
| 07:53.16 | mog_home | woopity doo you are way off topic |
| 07:53.22 | coppice | any WMD Iraq might have will have been supplied by britain, france or the us |
| 07:53.28 | Vco | but soon...very soon, DNS will be proven to support terrorism |
| 07:53.41 | mog_home | hehe |
| 07:53.43 | mog_home | that |
| 07:53.46 | mog_home | and big macs |
| 07:53.50 | Vco | fucken-A |
| 07:53.51 | coppice | Vco: you are probably right |
| 07:53.53 | benjk_ | No, it doesn't, but I am telling you this to say that I am not necessarily somebody who would be against anything that is proposed by the US government |
| 07:53.53 | mog_home | possibly fries... |
| 07:54.06 | Vco | name resolution kills people |
| 07:54.15 | mog_home | name resolution doesnt kill people |
| 07:54.20 | mog_home | people kill people |
| 07:54.22 | mog_home | ^_^ |
| 07:54.27 | mog_home | i need a shirt that says that |
| 07:54.37 | mog_home | or one that says |
| 07:54.46 | coppice | Vco: if it resolved to my ICBM address it most certainly could :-) |
| 07:55.28 | mog_home | "if we give up dns they win" |
| 07:55.28 | wolfson | lmfao, that is wonderful |
| 07:55.28 | Vco | i want one that says "Walk on the right, bitch" with an arrow pointing to my left |
| 07:55.28 | mog_home | lol |
| 07:55.38 | wolfson | need to get RMS to wear that shirt to his next UN meeting |
| 07:55.43 | Vco | sick of stupid people on sidewalks and such |
| 07:55.57 | mog_home | rms is against global un |
| 07:56.02 | mog_home | heh vco |
| 07:56.07 | mog_home | i walk on wrong side on purpose |
| 07:56.12 | mog_home | you meet more people that way |
| 07:57.03 | wolfson | RMS actually has UN doc's now, he's been doing some talks globally for them |
| 07:57.32 | mog_home | man that is one person i would not choose as my spokesperson |
| 07:57.40 | wolfson | he quite disturbed UN security when he wrapped his RFID in tinfoil |
| 07:57.49 | mog_home | yeah that was funny |
| 07:57.57 | benjk_ | mog, you dont have to give up US DNS |
| 07:58.24 | benjk_ | and .mil and .gov ... that stuff |
| 07:58.29 | mog_home | i think you are silly if you think all countries would work together |
| 07:58.37 | mog_home | i mean what if france was pissed at us |
| 07:58.44 | mog_home | and we lose all dns relations over night |
| 07:58.46 | mog_home | wtf |
| 07:58.49 | benjk_ | each country can appoint their own TLD management |
| 07:58.51 | Vco | oh like that would ever happen |
| 07:58.54 | Vco | *snicker* |
| 07:58.54 | mog_home | it would |
| 07:58.56 | wolfson | yah, UN votes to remove the US tld |
| 07:59.06 | wolfson | because of something our gov does |
| 07:59.06 | mog_home | it hasnt happened with dns now |
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| 07:59.30 | Vco | so, |
| 07:59.38 | wolfson | even our crazy governement, has not pulled a tld or a country it does not like |
| 07:59.45 | wolfson | or asked icann to do it |
| 07:59.45 | Vco | *yet* |
| 07:59.51 | mog_home | bah |
| 07:59.54 | mog_home | if iraq had dns |
| 07:59.57 | mog_home | its not going |
| 08:00.02 | mog_home | i mean they where "the evil doers" |
| 08:00.05 | wolfson | "ICANN's Board has included citizens of Australia, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, China, France, Germany, Ghana, Japan, Kenya, Korea, Mexico, the Netherlands, Portugal, Senegal, Spain, the United Kingdom, and the United States." |
| 08:00.18 | wolfson | they are the ones voting |
| 08:00.32 | Vco | yea, iraq had a such a bristling economy that was so heavily based internet connectivity |
| 08:00.46 | mog_home | you didnt know? |
| 08:01.09 | Vco | geat, then then when the board doens't serve us interests they can just bail and act unilateraly |
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| 08:01.26 | Vco | not that anything like that would ever happen |
| 08:01.41 | lbx | is this wrong |
| 08:01.41 | lbx | disallow=all |
| 08:01.41 | lbx | allow=ulaw |
| 08:01.41 | lbx | allow=alaw |
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| 08:02.10 | wolfson | and the US government is going to directly control root servers run by organizations in foreign countries? |
| 08:02.24 | benjk_ | yes lbx, if you are using a modem, then you don;t have enough bandwidth for ulaw/alaw |
| 08:02.32 | wolfson | you have to realize the root servers are not owned by a single entity |
| 08:03.14 | lbx | benjk_ |
| 08:03.17 | lbx | what should i change them to |
| 08:03.20 | coppice | last time i looked the root servers had almost no geographical diversity. has that changed? |
| 08:03.21 | lbx | that i would have enough bandwidth |
| 08:03.24 | lbx | using a DSL modem |
| 08:03.59 | wolfson | coppie: anycast techniques are starting to fix that |
| 08:04.25 | wolfson | putting multiple servers with the same IP all over the world |
| 08:04.26 | coppice | but are the root servers really spread around the world? |
| 08:04.38 | wolfson | yah, ISC has worked a lot on that |
| 08:04.42 | wolfson | their servers sit all over |
| 08:05.10 | wolfson | they have anycast'd the F root all over |
| 08:05.28 | coppice | could we end up like with akamai, where everyone ends up with their own view of what the internet looks like, but government controlled? |
| 08:05.31 | wolfson | http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/ops/f-root/ |
| 08:05.53 | mog_home | i seriously doubt it will change any time soon |
| 08:05.56 | mog_home | it works to well as is |
| 08:06.10 | mog_home | only people who disagree seem only to do so on principals |
| 08:06.46 | coppice | hey, its while since I looked at this. HK has had its own root server for 2 years :-\ |
| 08:06.50 | lbx | what should i change it to |
| 08:06.53 | wolfson | even with that huge coordinated attack a few years back, they only slightly inpacted the root network |
| 08:07.28 | wolfson | coppice: ISC has done a lot of work, there was a talk at the last nanog about anycast'ing DNS roots |
| 08:08.39 | wolfson | RIPE anycast's their's also |
| 08:08.43 | coppice | when did they change from 3 updates a day to near instantaneous updates? |
| 08:08.43 | wolfson | not sure if anyone else does |
| 08:09.07 | wolfson | think that was a year or two ago, the change to the SOA numbering was done |
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| 08:09.32 | coppice | that one was a huge improvement |
| 08:09.43 | wolfson | whois updates are slower than root updates now |
| 08:10.23 | coppice | yeah, I saw that when I registered soft-switch.org in the spring |
| 08:11.00 | wolfson | it was a pain explaining to clients why it took 2 days for changes to take affect |
| 08:11.17 | wolfson | in the world of instant e-mail, making someone understand, root zone updates, was kinda hard |
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| 08:11.43 | ComputerWarm | Evening all |
| 08:11.46 | coppice | well, for updates it still can to a long time for things to flush through |
| 08:12.03 | wolfson | yah, depending on how the soa is set for the zone |
| 08:13.55 | ComputerWarm | can anyone recommend a good billing system that works? |
| 08:14.02 | mog_home | astbill? |
| 08:14.23 | ComputerWarm | moment i think thats the one i have been trying to get working |
| 08:15.45 | benjk_ | ComputerWorm: really good billing systems cost money |
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| 08:17.20 | coppice | so do a lot of crappy ones :-) |
| 08:17.34 | wolfson | all this dns talk has bored me to sleep, later all |
| 08:18.38 | ComputerWarm | benjk ya i have tried some of the paid ones. and they don`t work all that well |
| 08:19.06 | ComputerWarm | i guess i will have to create my own. can any one recommend a good rate eng? |
| 08:19.13 | wolfson | i use rodopi for all my isp billing and they claim to have a voip module, though I have never tested it |
| 08:19.54 | ComputerWarm | wolfson ok thanks anyidea what the cost of rodopi is ? |
| 08:20.12 | wolfson | we bought our license like 8 years ago for a few grand |
| 08:20.33 | wolfson | though thats a 10k user license |
| 08:21.24 | ComputerWarm | ok thanks i will look in to them |
| 08:21.42 | wolfson | it is windows based though |
| 08:21.49 | ComputerWarm | eeek ok nvm :-p |
| 08:22.34 | wolfson | when we were searching, there were not really any unix based solutions |
| 08:23.26 | ComputerWarm | ya i understand that. I guess my best bet would be create my own. but there are a few pointers i need to pick up |
| 08:23.58 | wolfson | when we were thinking about selling voip, we rolled a php billing solution in under a week |
| 08:24.01 | wolfson | its not that complex |
| 08:24.43 | ComputerWarm | well the only thing i haven`t been able to figure out is how to limit to only the first 6 digits from a phone number |
| 08:25.44 | ComputerWarm | I think other then that i should be able to figure something out in not much time |
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| 08:35.13 | alephcom | ComputerWarm: Regular expressions and mysql are your friends. |
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| 08:52.10 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody heard about "poundkey linux"? a CD that was handed at Astricon(?) |
| 08:53.07 | tzafrir_laptop | Seems like a Conary(?)-based linux distro of Asterisk. |
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| 08:58.45 | coppice | Its probably similar to the CD of Completely Pointless Linux |
| 08:59.05 | mog_home | nah coppice ^_^ |
| 08:59.17 | twisted | mog_home, did you get what you needed? |
| 08:59.21 | twisted | mog_home, i was at work earlier, sorry :p |
| 08:59.26 | mog_home | its all good |
| 08:59.30 | mog_home | i got mark to do it |
| 08:59.33 | mog_home | banned bbz guy |
| 08:59.35 | twisted | ok cool |
| 09:00.30 | coppice | what did bbz get banned for? |
| 09:01.11 | mog_home | he was a spam bot |
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| 09:01.26 | mog_home | he said he was selling stuff every 3 hours |
| 09:01.29 | mog_home | and never responded |
| 09:02.32 | coppice | sounds like most genuine sales departments :-) |
| 09:03.03 | mog_home | heh |
| 09:03.21 | mog_home | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:04.44 | mog_home | i also checked through logs he had only said the same message every 3 hours for days |
| 09:04.48 | mog_home | so bump |
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| 09:08.02 | coppice | mog_home: sounds like a * mailing list user :-) |
| 09:08.17 | mog_home | heh |
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| 09:46.00 | mog_home | gnite |
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| 10:00.42 | trixter | moo |
| 10:00.52 | jpcarvalho | Hello All , i'm getting problems UNLOADING zaptel ; it locks my server and i have to shutdown fisically. I have 4 TE-110P . I'm using fedora C3 with SMP kernel on a P4. |
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| 10:00.54 | benjk_ | hi trixter |
| 10:00.59 | trixter | hi |
| 10:01.02 | trixter | hows it goin? |
| 10:01.13 | benjk_ | good |
| 10:01.39 | benjk_ | I have told a select group of users about the plans |
| 10:01.46 | benjk_ | they are excited ;-) |
| 10:01.47 | trixter | ahh |
| 10:01.49 | trixter | heh |
| 10:01.52 | trixter | go figure |
| 10:02.08 | *** join/#asterisk tzafrir_laptop (n=tzafrir@local.xorcom.com) |
| 10:02.32 | benjk_ | btw, Mark banned the spam bot today :-) |
| 10:03.04 | trixter | bbz? |
| 10:03.35 | benjk_ | yeah, every three hours a user named bbz posted a spam message |
| 10:03.50 | trixter | yeah that was going on for days |
| 10:03.54 | trixter | the same 20 polycom phones |
| 10:03.56 | benjk_ | something about 20 extra Polycom phones and if anybody wanted to buy them |
| 10:03.59 | benjk_ | yep |
| 10:04.02 | benjk_ | that's the one |
| 10:04.14 | benjk_ | Mark kicked and banned him |
| 10:04.15 | trixter | after days he didnt get anyone to purchase any ... kinda makes you wonder .. |
| 10:04.50 | benjk_ | no, people complained that they didn't get any response |
| 10:05.13 | trixter | and to say 'I have a reference in the channel' that means nothing because I can start 2 clients |
| 10:05.15 | benjk_ | they wanted to buy them, but it was a bot |
| 10:05.21 | benjk_ | and no response ever |
| 10:05.43 | benjk_ | exactly |
| 10:06.13 | trixter | I got 1 response one time |
| 10:06.15 | trixter | the price wasnt that great |
| 10:06.31 | benjk_ | btw, we've decided to make an ease-of-use web gui for Asterisk on LinuxPPC |
| 10:06.35 | *** join/#asterisk trixter_ (i=trixter@joogot.noskills.net) |
| 10:06.48 | trixter_ | hi I am a reference for trixter please give him $1,000,000 post haste |
| 10:06.49 | trixter_ | :P |
| 10:06.56 | benjk_ | haha |
| 10:07.34 | litage | what is multi-tenanting? |
| 10:07.46 | trixter | virtual; hosting in effect |
| 10:07.53 | benjk_ | multiple clients served on the same PBX |
| 10:07.58 | trixter | well it depends on usage, one 'item' multiple people |
| 10:08.41 | benjk_ | appearance of there being one Asterisk server for each "tenant" |
| 10:08.50 | benjk_ | where there is only one |
| 10:09.08 | litage | i see. is that difficult to setup in *? |
| 10:09.26 | litage | (i've found little information about tenanting on voip-info.org, so i'm curious) |
| 10:09.29 | trixter | not horribly but on very large systems it can result in naming collisions with the contexts and such |
| 10:09.37 | benjk_ | not any more difficult than setting up for a single "tenant" |
| 10:09.43 | trixter | litage: try looking for asterisk virtual hosting |
| 10:09.48 | litage | k |
| 10:10.03 | benjk_ | but if you have to aask the questions, then you may find it difficult because it lookls like you don't know anything about dialplans |
| 10:10.49 | litage | benjk_: i know little about dialplans at the moment, but i'm guessing that virtual hosting/multi-tenanting makes heavy use of dialplans? |
| 10:10.49 | benjk_ | that's because there isn't really any difference to a "normal" setup |
| 10:11.21 | trixter | benjk: I wish that asterisk let you specify a context was only good in one 'realm' it you can have a complete dialplan with gotos, etc, but its only good for users that are in a certain class/realm.. this way I could have a realm 'customerA' and a realm 'customerB' and B can never goto() anything in A, they can both have a 'default' context which is unique to themselves, etc |
| 10:11.27 | trixter | now that would be a nice feature :) |
| 10:11.31 | benjk_ | well, it's basically just a matter of having a good naming convention |
| 10:11.35 | trixter | more or less true vhosting |
| 10:11.36 | benjk_ | for your contexts |
| 10:12.05 | trixter | yeah, but that means that you cant let users create and upload their own dial plans because you have to make sure the naming stuff is upheld |
| 10:12.16 | benjk_ | trixter, true, but the problem already starts with Asterisk not having any concept of a user |
| 10:12.21 | trixter | I mean you could do it all based on an AGI to get the control I am tlaking about, but meh |
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| 10:13.09 | trixter | this would basically just be a supercontext, but it would require more code changes than I think a first glance requires |
| 10:13.46 | litage | is there much point in using software such as ScopServ to help manage large #s of clients/customers? |
| 10:14.53 | benjk_ | you can handle a large number of clients with a single entry in the dialplan, making use of dialpatterns and macros |
| 10:15.23 | jpcarvalho | Hello All , i'm getting problems UNLOADING zaptel ; it locks my server and i have to shutdown fisically. I have 4 TE-110P . I'm using fedora C3 with SMP kernel on a P4. |
| 10:17.02 | litage | benjk_: you'd have to trust that the software properly creates, updates, and manages new and previous dial plans, patterns, and macros though, wouldn't you? |
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| 10:39.16 | zoa | yoooo |
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| 10:59.38 | kink0 | buenos dias |
| 11:00.06 | p_jack02 | hi |
| 11:00.19 | kink0 | how to select what ALSA sound will be used ( in the event you have multiple sounds cards ) ? |
| 11:01.21 | kink0 | my scenary is like this: AGI(external_program) where external_program select what /dev/usb/ttyUSB is free and ready, then config and dial ussing the connected mobile phone. |
| 11:01.30 | kink0 | these mobile phones are wired to the sounds cards |
| 11:02.03 | kink0 | so external_program print what USB port is ussing ( they detect based on who is free and LCR ) |
| 11:02.20 | kink0 | to notify to Asterisk what sound card would use |
| 11:03.05 | kink0 | but, after AGI(external_program) extension line, what must I use to tell Asterisk "listen" on Alsa channel /device/dspN ? |
| 11:03.50 | kink0 | ( ahh I hope to explain it enough understandable , english is not my natural language, sorry for any language speaking mistakes ) |
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| 11:12.33 | kink0 | well appears everybody still sleeping :) |
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| 11:12.54 | robl^ | shhh! you'll wake them up and make them very cross! |
| 11:12.55 | Gennaro | hi |
| 11:13.07 | robl^ | Hi Gennaro |
| 11:13.34 | Gennaro | some one can explain how can i installa and use and x100p clone (intel modem) with asterisk for an fxo? |
| 11:13.49 | Gennaro | i want to recive calls on it |
| 11:14.05 | Gennaro | and let the call be answer from menu.. |
| 11:14.36 | Gennaro | i don't kno how to set pci card and set zapata to work |
| 11:14.54 | robl^ | Gennaro: that would take a very long time to explain each step.. have you read the docs on the wiki? |
| 11:15.02 | Gennaro | yes |
| 11:15.04 | Gennaro | sure |
| 11:15.44 | Gennaro | i installed and pci card that should be compatible |
| 11:15.57 | Gennaro | i registred my phones on sip.config |
| 11:16.07 | Gennaro | i can call 600 |
| 11:16.10 | Gennaro | for test |
| 11:16.34 | robl^ | ok.. sounds good so far.. |
| 11:17.04 | Gennaro | i see in zaptel.conf |
| 11:17.09 | Gennaro | adn zapata.cong |
| 11:17.11 | Gennaro | adn zapata.conf |
| 11:17.21 | robl^ | http://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm#_Toc49248763 <-- this shows the X100P install |
| 11:17.33 | Gennaro | i'll see |
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| 11:19.08 | robl^ | Genaro: does that help? |
| 11:19.48 | Gennaro | i'm reading... |
| 11:20.05 | Gennaro | tanx |
| 11:20.23 | Gennaro | i'm going to see the differece... |
| 11:20.29 | Gennaro | realy tanx |
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| 11:25.06 | kink0 | somebody knows how to tell Asterisk what /device/dsp must use ? |
| 11:25.54 | kink0 | I did AGI to call external program to select what USB mobile phone to use, and return what was selected, where every mobile phone is wired to a sound card. |
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| 11:47.55 | Gennaro | robl^ |
| 11:48.18 | Gennaro | i load modprobe wcfxo |
| 11:48.31 | Gennaro | so i tried to ztcfg |
| 11:49.33 | Gennaro | and i found errors on Notice: Configuration file is /etc/zaptel.conf line 19: Syntax error. Should be <keyword>=<value> 'context pstn_in' |
| 11:50.08 | Gennaro | where can i see pstn_in? |
| 11:50.13 | robl^ | change to: context=pstn_in |
| 11:50.33 | Gennaro | ops-- |
| 11:51.21 | robl^ | pstn_in will n eed to be defined in your extensions.conf file as well |
| 11:52.11 | Gennaro | i'm going.. |
| 11:54.42 | Gennaro | should i do [pstn_in] ? |
| 11:56.08 | robl^ | [pstn_in] is where incoming calls on the X100P will go |
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| 11:57.09 | Gennaro | with make samples i havent jet an [pstn_in] |
| 11:57.47 | robl^ | do you have an IVR menu? |
| 11:58.05 | Gennaro | like demo? |
| 11:58.10 | Gennaro | [demo] |
| 11:58.55 | robl^ | ok.. do this.. under [pstn_in] add: exten => s,1,Goto(Demo,s,1) |
| 11:59.08 | robl^ | reload and test it. |
| 11:59.12 | Gennaro | ok |
| 11:59.15 | Gennaro | but why |
| 11:59.21 | Gennaro | i cant see my card |
| 11:59.34 | Gennaro | under zttool? |
| 12:00.16 | robl^ | did you modprobe zaptel and then modprobe wcfxo ? |
| 12:00.24 | Gennaro | yes |
| 12:00.29 | Gennaro | i did so.. |
| 12:00.44 | robl^ | was there an error? |
| 12:00.45 | Gennaro | but if.. zttool |
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| 12:01.18 | Gennaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.32 | Gennaro | if "select" |
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| 12:01.42 | Gennaro | and nothing in menu as interface.. |
| 12:01.49 | Gennaro | under alarm |
| 12:01.52 | Gennaro | or span |
| 12:02.00 | Gennaro | that's right?!? |
| 12:02.06 | Gennaro | or i shoud see card? |
| 12:02.28 | robl^ | you will only see the card if the modules loaded propperly |
| 12:03.27 | robl^ | do a ztcfg -vv. is the card listed? |
| 12:05.29 | Gennaro | is the same.. |
| 12:06.08 | Gennaro | my guide say.. "zaptel.conf" |
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| 12:07.45 | robl^ | Gennaro: do you see "Channel 01: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 01)" something like that when you type "ztcfg -vv"?? |
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| 12:11.08 | djin_ib | Does anyone use other languages in v1.2.0? I get the following error: |
| 12:11.09 | djin_ib | WARNING[21514]: file.c:508 ast_openstream_full: File vm-INBOXs does not exist in any format |
| 12:11.20 | djin_ib | The extra 's' is really strange |
| 12:11.56 | djin_ib | If I copy vm-INBOX.gsm to vm-INBOXs.gsm it stops at the next file. |
| 12:13.11 | kink0 | how to do answer an incoming call ussing /dev/dspX based on external program that changes a variable to tell asterisk what /dev/dspX is used for that call ? |
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| 12:17.01 | Gennaro | robl^ http://pastebin.ca/31400 |
| 12:17.10 | Gennaro | can u see? |
| 12:18.31 | zigman | is sourceforge down ? |
| 12:23.37 | Gennaro | robl^ |
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| 12:26.51 | demetrio | hello |
| 12:27.33 | demetrio | can somebody please explain me a possible reason for this: chan_iax2.c:5456 socket_read: Rejected connect attempt from etc |
| 12:30.02 | djin_ib | demetrio, connect attempt rejected is because the the source/destination is not allowed to connect. |
| 12:31.07 | demetrio | how do I allow them? |
| 12:32.16 | djin_ib | Configure your iax.conf properly. |
| 12:33.00 | djin_ib | Depends on whether you want to work with authentication, what extensions they are allowed to call, etc, etc |
| 12:33.55 | demetrio | hm thanks, I'll rtfm |
| 12:35.04 | djin_ib | :) |
| 12:36.09 | djin_ib | It isn't that hard. Decide on whether they need to authenticatie en use the proper 'context' value to handle the call in extensions.conf. |
| 12:36.27 | SERGEUS | can anybody point me to asterisk+dialogic howto? :) |
| 12:36.59 | coppice | you need to talk to digium directly about dialogic support |
| 12:37.52 | SERGEUS | yes i found some info about chan_dialogic, is this the only way? |
| 12:38.09 | coppice | chan_dialogic is something digium sell |
| 12:38.49 | demetrio | djin_ib, ok now I can honestly say that I'm missing something |
| 12:39.09 | djin_ib | Are there advantages of using chan_dialogic over f.e. zap? |
| 12:39.30 | coppice | chan_dialogic actually sucks |
| 12:39.47 | coppice | well, not chan_dialogic, but the dialogic cards themselves |
| 12:40.01 | demetrio | I'm using rsa, context is defined, everything worked till an hour ago and now it simply stopped doing so. |
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| 12:41.01 | djin_ib | I have Brooktrout from a former projects and always had second thoughts about these cards. Wildcards and Eicons work much better for me. |
| 12:41.06 | kink0 | I tried Dial(Console/dsp7) ( yes, I have one /dev/dsp7 device ), but fails , how to use another dsp channel for one extension ? |
| 12:41.32 | SERGEUS | coppice, djin_ib - so chan_zap supports dialogic hardware? |
| 12:41.52 | djin_ib | where did I say that ?!? |
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| 12:42.11 | coppice | no. chan_dialogic supports dialogic hardware |
| 12:43.00 | djin_ib | Hmmm, bit of outdated, but not very promissing: |
| 12:43.00 | djin_ib | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2003-October/002066.html |
| 12:43.14 | SERGEUS | djin_ib, you compared it, so i thought chan_dialogic can be replaced by chan_zap :) |
| 12:43.15 | benjk_ | Coppice: NO?! your'e kidding! |
| 12:44.30 | coppice | dialogic cards can be largely replaced by repeated blows to the head |
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| 12:45.07 | many | *snicker* |
| 12:45.23 | coppice | interesting we all call them dialogic, when that name disappeared 4 or 5 years ago |
| 12:45.42 | djin_ib | SERGEUS, I understand, yes I was comparing the two pieces of hardware :) |
| 12:46.30 | coppice | dialogic cards have only one single thing in their favour - they are approved in a lot of places |
| 12:46.46 | benjk_ | doesn't Intel still use the name? as in "Intel Dialogic" |
| 12:47.26 | coppice | they seem to just say intel now |
| 12:47.32 | litage | can Virbiage's 3010 ATA be used with Asterisk (IE: with a non-Virbiage provider)? |
| 12:47.44 | djin_ib | Ok, since there is much activity now, I'll just repost my earlier question: |
| 12:47.45 | djin_ib | [13:11] djin_ibDoes anyone use other languages in v1.2.0? I get the following error: |
| 12:47.45 | djin_ib | [13:11] djin_ibWARNING[21514]: file.c:508 ast_openstream_full: File vm-INBOXs does not exist in any format |
| 12:47.45 | djin_ib | [13:11] djin_ibThe extra 's' is really strange |
| 12:47.45 | djin_ib | [13:11] djin_ibIf I copy vm-INBOX.gsm to vm-INBOXs.gsm it stops at the next file. |
| 12:48.25 | djin_ib | I'm stuck on ideas on this one :( |
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| 12:49.07 | litage | djin_ib: make lots of links rather than renaming? |
| 12:49.11 | litage | =P |
| 12:49.20 | djin_ib | Ah, the m$ way |
| 12:49.25 | djin_ib | No, thanks. |
| 12:50.05 | djin_ib | It's very concistent with other languages. |
| 12:51.05 | djin_ib | *sigh*, everybody is silent again. |
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| 12:54.36 | benjk_ | is that ATA using IAX or SIP ? |
| 12:58.13 | litage | benjk_: IAX |
| 12:58.32 | Gennaro | some one can help me with an fxo clone (intel modem) to get call ? |
| 12:58.51 | litage | Gennaro: ask a specific rather than general question |
| 12:59.07 | Gennaro | http://pastebin.ca/31400 |
| 12:59.14 | benjk_ | I won;t help you if you call it CLONE one more time |
| 12:59.15 | Gennaro | to see |
| 12:59.36 | benjk_ | there is no such thing as a clone fxo |
| 12:59.51 | benjk_ | they are originals, ALL of them |
| 13:00.02 | Gennaro | sorry |
| 13:00.43 | Gennaro | how can i configure a 56k modem as fxo |
| 13:00.44 | Gennaro | ? |
| 13:00.45 | coppice | they aren't clones, anyway. they are all different in the front end circuitry, and some really suck |
| 13:01.27 | benjk_ | so what's the trouble with it anyway? |
| 13:01.59 | Gennaro | i see on voip info that i can use as x100p |
| 13:02.08 | Gennaro | is it true= |
| 13:02.09 | Gennaro | ? |
| 13:02.31 | Gennaro | i installed card before compile * |
| 13:02.34 | benjk_ | if it has a Silicon Labs 3034 chipset |
| 13:02.47 | benjk_ | aka Intel 537 |
| 13:03.08 | Gennaro | intel 537.. |
| 13:03.28 | Gennaro | so i modprobe wcfxo |
| 13:03.50 | Gennaro | when i try to |
| 13:04.03 | Gennaro | zttool |
| 13:04.09 | Gennaro | nothing.. |
| 13:04.18 | Gennaro | http://pastebin.ca/31400 |
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| 13:05.21 | RoyK | how hard can it be to create a good, cheap fxo pci card? it's stone age technology..... |
| 13:05.40 | coppice | all silicon is stone |
| 13:06.25 | Gennaro | what sould i do ?!? |
| 13:06.44 | coppice | benjk_: the si3034 isn't anything like an intel 537 chip |
| 13:07.00 | benjk_ | no which one is it then? |
| 13:07.34 | coppice | dunno if any SI labs stuff has commonality with intel, but the 3034 is just a DAA chip |
| 13:08.36 | coppice | who did intel buy, which gave them the 537 core? |
| 13:08.40 | benjk_ | Well, I'll have to talk about that with our main developer on the Zaptel/OSX project because he said something along the lines of the chips being from the same foundry/family |
| 13:08.42 | Gennaro | mm so? what should i do i'd like don't pay 280 $ for an developer ... |
| 13:08.51 | benjk_ | Ambient MD3200 |
| 13:09.02 | litage | so any idea if that Virbiage 3010 ATA is locked into Freshtel, or can it be used with any provider? |
| 13:09.06 | coppice | ah, that's right |
| 13:09.59 | coppice | the 3034 is this tiny chip www2.silabs.com/public/documents/tpub_doc/dsheet/Wireline/Silicon_DAA/en/si3034.pdf |
| 13:13.48 | benjk_ | anyway, this guy makes a living of writing modem drivers for a major computer manufacturer which we are not going to name here, and he said that the current Apple voicemodems are si3034 based and that the i537 is also based on an si chipset of the same family or something like that |
| 13:14.45 | coppice | it could well be that apple use the 3034, but as you can see it is unrelated to the 537 |
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| 13:17.25 | benjk_ | well, I can't see that because I wouldn't be able to tell, but if you say so, I will take your word for it. Yet, this guy also knows his stuff, so I guess that is some truth in what he says when looked at it from an angle that I might have missed |
| 13:18.19 | benjk_ | the thing was that one driver could be very easily derived from the other because they share circuitry, treats, or whateve |
| 13:18.37 | coppice | actually you can easily tell. its a tiny 16 pin package. not a PCI device |
| 13:19.04 | benjk_ | but the chip on the i537 modem I have here is also tiny |
| 13:19.37 | benjk_ | approx 6-7mm accross |
| 13:19.49 | benjk_ | although I thik its got more than 16 pins |
| 13:20.19 | coppice | its got a PCI bus. it has lots of pins |
| 13:21.56 | benjk_ | but do there share anything? like design, API, somthing that would make a driver for one easy to warp into a driver for the other? |
| 13:22.26 | p_jack02 | @many, hi got it working :-) |
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| 13:27.12 | kink0 | off-topic: somebody know why if I sent to mobile phone atd#31#1234567; fails , but is fine if I sent without #31# OR without ; ? |
| 13:27.30 | kink0 | the problem is when both ( #31# and ending ; is on ) |
| 13:28.05 | kink0 | appear when I end with ; the # chars are ignored |
| 13:29.03 | benjk_ | kink0: sounds like a bug |
| 13:29.50 | kink0 | benjk_ I have try with two Ericsson models (T28S and T65) and both does the same. Also tryed from my C app, and from minicom, the same. |
| 13:30.22 | benjk_ | well, if it is a bug, what makes you think its only present in one phone |
| 13:30.42 | benjk_ | a bug int Ericsson's firmware, I presume |
| 13:30.52 | kink0 | your are right, may be at both, anywise both models are very "AT" differents |
| 13:31.24 | kink0 | may be, I will need to get another cable to test other manufacturer, since AT+CLI also does not work to avoid send caller number. |
| 13:32.18 | benjk_ | I would be very surprised if it the cable caused this |
| 13:32.53 | kink0 | no, I do not suspect on cable, I say use another cable because connectors and the end of cable are propietary for the manufacturer |
| 13:33.05 | kink0 | so , I will need another cables to test i.e. Nokia |
| 13:33.17 | benjk_ | ah ok |
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| 13:34.21 | kink0 | well, then I will stop modify and recompiling until I get another cable. |
| 13:34.32 | kink0 | see you later ( time to lunch !! ) |
| 13:34.34 | kink0 | thanks |
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| 13:51.54 | trixter | why doesnt default cvs asterisk set itself up to run as asterisk completly instead of leaving that up to the user to do? |
| 13:52.19 | trixter | maybe its just me but I cant think of a good reason asterisk should be running as root nor can I think of a good reason to make a user chown a bunch of stuff when that can be scripted |
| 13:52.27 | benjk_ | sorry that didn't parse |
| 13:52.42 | benjk_ | Ahhh |
| 13:53.09 | benjk_ | good question |
| 13:53.46 | trixter | benjk: in linux anyway (fbsd ports does it correctly) if you get it from cvs you have to go and edit a bunch of stuff to make your system reasonably secure and still have asterisk run as non root :( it defaults to toss stuff in /var/run but doesnt create /var/run/asterisk and chown that, same with /var/log/asterisk and other stuff.. so if you just run it as a non root user it wont work without tweaking |
| 13:54.22 | trixter | and my background suggests that you want to segregate as much stuff as possible (the days of everything running as 'nobody' are over by a decade, and the days of running everything as root are over by at least 15 years) |
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| 13:54.24 | trixter | :/ |
| 13:54.30 | Corydon76-home | trixter: because most of us run Asterisk with Zaptel |
| 13:54.38 | trixter | I just dont know if there is some compelling reason to do it the way it currently does |
| 13:54.44 | trixter | I use zaptel |
| 13:54.47 | trixter | I dont have that problem |
| 13:54.54 | Corydon76-home | trixter: and it traditionally has been a PITA to keep the devices chown'ed |
| 13:54.56 | trixter | and I dont mean ztdummy |
| 13:55.35 | Corydon76-home | How about "it's always been done that way, and we haven't had a major kick in the seat to change it." |
| 13:55.44 | benjk_ | Linux device driver architecture PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT |
| 13:55.51 | Corydon76-home | Oh, and realtime |
| 13:55.52 | trixter | that is something that should be investigated then and see if there is an easy way ... if that is the only reason that wont be that hard to fix |
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| 13:56.03 | trixter | realtime doesnt need special privs |
| 13:56.16 | trixter | for mysql anyway, I would hope that postgress and others work in a similar way |
| 13:56.21 | Corydon76-home | You need root privs to start as realtime |
| 13:56.26 | trixter | otherwise only root can access the database and that is generally bad |
| 13:56.36 | trixter | why? |
| 13:57.05 | Corydon76-home | because you don't want user processes to be able to usurp processor time from system processes |
| 13:57.34 | trixter | oh you mean as a realtime app? |
| 13:57.36 | benjk_ | Cory, so whats the problem |
| 13:57.40 | benjk_ | factor your code |
| 13:57.41 | trixter | like accessing /dev/rtc? |
| 13:57.49 | Corydon76-home | especially system processes, like, oh say, a root shell, when you login to kill off a runaway process... |
| 13:58.09 | Corydon76-home | benjk_: I'm answering, I'm not the one with the problem |
| 13:58.21 | benjk_ | I realise that |
| 13:58.29 | trixter | do you run asterisk as root? then you do have a problem you just havent run into it yet |
| 13:58.32 | benjk_ | I am just saying that there are ways to deal with stuff |
| 13:58.41 | trixter | I choose not to run a system that is as insecure as possible :/ |
| 13:59.00 | Corydon76-home | I choose to run systems with as little running on them as possible |
| 13:59.07 | trixter | and if its a /dev/rtc problem you can get around that if that is what you meant by realtime unless you meant something else I dunno |
| 13:59.50 | Corydon76-home | You asked the question as to why it's not done that way. I answered. That's it.' |
| 14:00.13 | trixter | so its done that way due to incompetence |
| 14:00.13 | benjk_ | fair enough |
| 14:00.14 | trixter | I see |
| 14:00.26 | trixter | I will fix my copy then thanx for letting me know that nothing breaksi f you do it right :) |
| 14:00.31 | Corydon76-home | Were you really expecting me to go change CVS immediately, because somebody has a problem with the way things are done? |
| 14:00.40 | benjk_ | I wouldn;t call it incompetence |
| 14:00.49 | trixter | I never asked you to do anything and never mentioned any changes in cvs |
| 14:00.55 | trixter | only that when you get it from cvs it is that way |
| 14:00.58 | benjk_ | probably more like laziness |
| 14:01.18 | trixter | did you really think that I was asking you to change anything? |
| 14:01.21 | Corydon76-home | Probably more like nobody has felt the need to force their personal security policy on others |
| 14:01.48 | benjk_ | That I don't agree with |
| 14:01.48 | Corydon76-home | We provide the facility to do so, should you want that. That should be enough. |
| 14:01.52 | trixter | yeah a lot of coders dont code with 'best practices' in mind |
| 14:01.54 | trixter | I agree |
| 14:01.59 | benjk_ | because that statement could have come right out of Microsfot |
| 14:02.25 | Corydon76-home | No, it could not have. |
| 14:02.28 | trixter | yeah there is the facility to fix a bunch of broken install scripts I agree |
| 14:02.32 | trixter | its called a text editor |
| 14:02.33 | benjk_ | yes it would |
| 14:02.49 | benjk_ | We don;t want to force any security standards on anyone |
| 14:02.50 | Corydon76-home | Microsoft's attitude is "nobody wants that, therefore we don't even support running the code like that" |
| 14:03.15 | Corydon76-home | The code has been added to run asterisk as non-root, should you want that. |
| 14:03.21 | Corydon76-home | and that's supported |
| 14:03.24 | trixter | same with you guys, I have to tweak it myself to get it to work, thus you dont support my configuration of 'dont run everything possible as root unless it has to' |
| 14:03.26 | benjk_ | the bottom line is though that most systems end up insecure |
| 14:03.58 | trixter | oh well back to fixing the broken asterisk install, think I am about doe |
| 14:04.01 | trixter | done |
| 14:04.36 | Corydon76-home | Consider it another way. If your communications system is compromised, does it really matter what user it's running as? |
| 14:04.57 | benjk_ | that's beside the point |
| 14:05.23 | Corydon76-home | If someone breaks in, does it really matter whether the user is asterisk or root? It's still your goddamn communications that has been compromised |
| 14:06.06 | benjk_ | server processes that listen on ports exposed to the public internet should not run with privileges because if there is a vulnerabilty that can be remotely exploited |
| 14:06.27 | Corydon76-home | Let me know if there's a vuln and we'll fix it |
| 14:06.28 | benjk_ | then it will have a much more disastrous impact |
| 14:06.41 | benjk_ | Again, could have come right from MSFT |
| 14:07.02 | benjk_ | prevention isn't worth any effort you think? |
| 14:07.07 | Corydon76-home | I fail to see more disastrous than "All of our core communications could have been listened to by a competitor" |
| 14:07.42 | Corydon76-home | or even "our sales calls could all have been diverted to a competitor" |
| 14:07.44 | benjk_ | if somebody can exploit -say- something in chan_sip |
| 14:07.54 | benjk_ | then, because it runs as root |
| 14:08.02 | benjk_ | they could potentially take over the box |
| 14:08.08 | Corydon76-home | Yes, but you're ignoring the purpose of the box |
| 14:08.13 | benjk_ | now that's disastrous |
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| 14:08.25 | Corydon76-home | You're seeing the box itself as an end, rather than the real purpose of the box |
| 14:08.25 | benjk_ | HOWEVER |
| 14:08.59 | benjk_ | if chan_sip had not run as root, they might not be able to take over the box even though the vulnerability is the same |
| 14:09.20 | Corydon76-home | I'm sorry, but the disaster is catastrophic if someone takes over our communications system. I don't give a shit about whether that's running as root or asterisk, it's catastrophic |
| 14:09.29 | benjk_ | if they can take over the box, then they can get to your other channels too |
| 14:09.45 | benjk_ | or hijack your accounts on other systems and steal call volume |
| 14:10.01 | Corydon76-home | All channels are accessible by the user running the box |
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| 14:10.34 | benjk_ | not if the code was factored |
| 14:10.45 | Corydon76-home | I'm waiting for your patch. |
| 14:10.52 | Corydon76-home | Put up or shut up |
| 14:10.56 | drray | I dont see the big deal |
| 14:11.11 | Corydon76-home | drray: Yeah, neither do I. |
| 14:11.15 | benjk_ | reminds me of a time when I was working in the former West Germany |
| 14:11.28 | benjk_ | when you pointed something out |
| 14:11.36 | Corydon76-home | This reminds me of the time I was working in Soviet Russia |
| 14:11.37 | drray | I mean, if they own your box, asterisk is the least of your problmes |
| 14:11.38 | benjk_ | especially if it was true |
| 14:11.46 | benjk_ | then you would get a response like yours |
| 14:11.54 | Corydon76-home | because in Soviet Russia, box owns YOU |
| 14:11.59 | benjk_ | "If you don't like it here, why don't you go over there" |
| 14:12.07 | trixter | its easier to hide with root than it is without it |
| 14:12.13 | benjk_ | which was a referral to the former Communist East Germany |
| 14:12.23 | trixter | its easier to futher infiltrate a network with root than without it |
| 14:12.34 | drray | there is nothing stopping you from patching teh code to "fix it" |
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| 14:12.49 | trixter | I am doing that myself, I originally asked why was it done tha way |
| 14:12.52 | Corydon76-home | Yes, there is, drray... he just wants to whine about it |
| 14:12.56 | trixter | and I was told becuase its a pain in the ass to do it right |
| 14:13.27 | Corydon76-home | "right" |
| 14:13.35 | benjk_ | sure, but the point is that the existing code is not as shiny as most of the developers paint it to be |
| 14:13.39 | Corydon76-home | "because my way is right" |
| 14:13.57 | drray | well, it's pain versus reward, I don't know that it is "right" |
| 14:14.01 | trixter | my way falls into 'best practices' as opposed to 'run everything as an admin user cause that is easier' |
| 14:14.11 | Corydon76-home | "and every other way is mean|nasty|awful" |
| 14:14.26 | drray | isn't there a way to run asterisk not as root, on the wiki? |
| 14:14.33 | trixter | no running a process with more priviledge than required is generally a bad thing |
| 14:14.39 | Corydon76-home | drray: there is indeed, but he wants to whine about it |
| 14:14.50 | trixter | I have set my system up my question originally was why was it done that way |
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| 14:14.55 | trixter | not whether or not you could change it |
| 14:14.59 | trixter | there is a difference |
| 14:15.18 | litage | do you need a layer-4 switch to do packet priortization? |
| 14:15.19 | trixter | its just that Corydon76-home got all upset that I suggested that its more insecure |
| 14:15.39 | drray | it could be more insecure, I don't know that it is |
| 14:15.52 | drray | it's certainly not on my asterisk box |
| 14:15.54 | Corydon76-home | For many other processes, I'd agree with you. |
| 14:16.37 | Corydon76-home | but when you're talking about a process that is a core communications system, I'm afraid I have to disagree. Asterisk is the most important process running on my boxes |
| 14:16.59 | drray | asterisk is the only app on my asterisk boxes |
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| 14:17.07 | Corydon76-home | And any compromise, no matter what user is running Asterisk, is too much |
| 14:18.04 | trixter | sometimes all an attacker has is the ability to run commands or code and not actually able to interact with the system directly, if that is the case then limiting the access to that type of attack would be a good thing |
| 14:18.41 | Corydon76-home | Hah, now you're saying that getting a remote shell is difficult. |
| 14:18.54 | trixter | did I? |
| 14:19.03 | Corydon76-home | Once an attacker finds an attack vector, you have to assume remote shell. Period. |
| 14:19.17 | trixter | not always becuase there are ways to limit that |
| 14:19.28 | drray | I can't see asterisk being the weak link in a linux box anyway |
| 14:19.45 | trixter | how many lines of code is asterisk? I can see problems eventually |
| 14:19.51 | Corydon76-home | You mean, like not having vulnerabilities? Yes, we try to make sure there are no vuln's |
| 14:20.07 | trixter | so setting it up more insecure than need be is following that? |
| 14:20.11 | trixter | doesnt seem to make sense |
| 14:20.39 | drray | did we just tak our argue pills this morning? |
| 14:20.40 | Corydon76-home | You seem to have this illusion that there's something more important in having root on my Asterisk machine. There isn't |
| 14:21.24 | Corydon76-home | If you can gain access to my asterisk process, that's it. End of the line. No more story. |
| 14:21.36 | trixter | not entirely |
| 14:21.44 | trixter | maybe with your level of knowledge but not with what is currently available |
| 14:21.53 | trixter | and there is the problem you assume that you know everything and have just proven that you dont |
| 14:22.02 | drray | nice |
| 14:22.06 | Corydon76-home | That's why we attempt to keep the vulns out |
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| 14:22.10 | Kernel_Core | hi all |
| 14:22.33 | Corydon76-home | I assumed? I assumed!? |
| 14:22.45 | trixter | being able to execute a command or code via a remote exploit doesnt guarantee a shell, something you have insisted that it does |
| 14:22.56 | drray | I think it gets back to risk/reward versus pain |
| 14:23.05 | trixter | yes you have assumed many things in this conversation which shows an utter lack of knowledge and skill when it comes to security |
| 14:23.25 | Corydon76-home | Oh, so you're now assuming that a vuln isn't a complete vuln? |
| 14:23.39 | Corydon76-home | You're the one assuming, not me |
| 14:24.03 | trixter | again with your lack of knowledge |
| 14:24.10 | Corydon76-home | Fallacy |
| 14:24.22 | Kernel_Core | I upgraded to 1.2.0 , everything is Okey but when I attempt to call somewhere I get this error " WARNING[8242]: pbx.c:1690 pbx_extension_helper: No application 'prefix' for extension" |
| 14:24.27 | drray | I think you have to deal with the attacks that are most likely first, and I think asterisk has done that.. when your situation becomes more likely, we'll deal with it ( I assume) |
| 14:24.28 | Corydon76-home | "I am supreme knowledge master; bow down to me" |
| 14:24.34 | Kernel_Core | it seems perfix is lost :| |
| 14:24.47 | trixter | ahh so only after its a problem deal with it.. how microsoft |
| 14:25.09 | Corydon76-home | Kernel_Core: yes, prefix was removed. It's been deprecated since before 1.0 |
| 14:25.31 | Kernel_Core | Corydon76-home: what should I use instead ? |
| 14:25.38 | Corydon76-home | trixter: again, you're arguing a fallacy |
| 14:26.09 | Corydon76-home | trixter: it's a strawman argument. "Associate him with MS, since we all know MS is always wrong" |
| 14:26.41 | trixter | cna you honestly say that MS's track record on security is the right approach? |
| 14:26.50 | trixter | they are the only major industry player that isnt proactive |
| 14:26.52 | Corydon76-home | trixter: intentionally misrepresenting an argument so you can argue against it. |
| 14:27.07 | Corydon76-home | Oh, Cisco is proactive now? |
| 14:27.17 | Corydon76-home | Really? |
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| 14:27.22 | trixter | and I am not intentionally misrepresenting an arguement, I asked very specifically why does asterisk default to run as root when that isnt a good idea or even fall within the best practices guidelines |
| 14:27.47 | Corydon76-home | trixter: you're assuming things again |
| 14:27.50 | trixter | and I have insisted that you assumptions about what can and cant be done in the security world are inaccurate, I could prove it even |
| 14:27.51 | drray | and the wiki tells you how to run it as non root, if that is a concern to you |
| 14:27.58 | trixter | but you insist that proof is a fallacy |
| 14:28.26 | Corydon76-home | Kernel_Core: use the substring capability of variable interpolation |
| 14:28.26 | Kernel_Core | Corydon76-home: I got Oreilly Asterisk book : they mentioned Prefix :| , but if it is removed , what should I use instead ? |
| 14:28.29 | trixter | I am running it as non root without the wiki I wanted to know if there was a good reason and I was told there is no good reason other than we (digium) is incompetent |
| 14:28.32 | [TK]D-Fender | chapeaurouge, no, its been POINTLESS for a while now ;) |
| 14:28.37 | chapeaurouge | ;) |
| 14:28.56 | Corydon76-home | trixter: you speak for Digium? Because I certainly don't. |
| 14:29.04 | trixter | you were earlier |
| 14:29.10 | Corydon76-home | BULLSHIT |
| 14:29.15 | [TK]D-Fender | * is up and running again and better than ever. fixed up some bugs in my sample dialplan and its all clean now and doesn't interfere with CLASS. |
| 14:29.17 | Corydon76-home | You assume too much |
| 14:29.20 | chapeaurouge | ~BULLSHIT |
| 14:29.24 | jbot | i heard bullshit is If you want to speak bullshit, please go to #debian.bullshit. sdf dflkj Linux sucks sfg yo momma dfg #debian.bullshit |
| 14:29.24 | chapeaurouge | hmmm |
| 14:29.57 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm off for breakfast..... |
| 14:30.05 | chapeaurouge | later [TK]D-Fender |
| 14:30.05 | Kernel_Core | Corydon76-home: I use this two lines : exten => _X.,1,prefix,96560 |
| 14:30.06 | Kernel_Core | exten => _96560X.,2,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}@cisco1,60,tr) |
| 14:30.28 | Kernel_Core | what should I use instead ? |
| 14:30.30 | drray | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+Prefix |
| 14:30.49 | Corydon76-home | Kernel_Core: instead do, Dial(SIP/96560${EXTEN}@...) |
| 14:30.59 | drray | Dial(Zap/g0/555${EXTEN}) |
| 14:32.38 | Corydon76-home | Where's blitzrage when you need him? Why did the O'Reilly book reference Prefix? |
| 14:32.41 | Kernel_Core | thanks all |
| 14:33.00 | drray | cause there are still old ass asterisk installs |
| 14:33.08 | drray | (mine included) |
| 14:33.25 | Corydon76-home | Well, yeah, but we've had variable interpolation for a long time |
| 14:33.34 | Kernel_Core | drray: It seems this version of asterisk doing great job :) |
| 14:34.02 | drray | I don't see the reason to upgrade one of the boxes |
| 14:34.15 | drray | it's not on the internet |
| 14:34.16 | Kernel_Core | Corydon-w: It didn't work for me Dial(SIP/96560${EXTEN}@...) before I upgraded to 1.2.0 |
| 14:34.38 | Corydon76-home | Kernel_Core: what were you running before? |
| 14:35.07 | Corydon76-home | Reminds me, should be about time to remove BYEXTENSION |
| 14:35.27 | drray | such a hater |
| 14:35.40 | Kernel_Core | 1.0.9 I think ! |
| 14:35.51 | Corydon76-home | That should work fine on 1.0.9 |
| 14:36.14 | Kernel_Core | Corydon76-home: I don't know why but I solved this by Prefix .. |
| 14:36.19 | Corydon76-home | I think we've had variable interpolation before 0.2.0 |
| 14:36.54 | Corydon76-home | Probably wasn't in 0.1.0, though |
| 14:38.43 | trixter | ok, in all fairness the exploitable code I just found isnt digium written nor is it in the core, but it is used.. I will be polishing this up and hope to release it after notifying the authors of this specific section of code first |
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| 14:39.59 | drray | sounds like a reason to have yet another asterisk fork |
| 14:40.05 | drray | (that was sarcasm people) |
| 14:40.06 | h3x | drra |
| 14:40.14 | h3x | drray: I was just going to say that asterisk-security |
| 14:40.15 | drray | chill |
| 14:40.24 | h3x | haha |
| 14:40.29 | Corydon76-home | Hey, wow, somebody might be able to load exploitable code by writing to a public API... we better lock that down! |
| 14:40.42 | h3x | digium dosent care about security, thats why they develop it on linux! *snicker* |
| 14:41.02 | Corydon76-home | Note to self: make Asterisk API completely private, protected by contractual obligations not to reveal it... |
| 14:41.12 | drray | and that is how M$ does it |
| 14:42.02 | h3x | so basically we've just reversed 20 years of progress of eliminating toll fraud in the phone network |
| 14:42.05 | trixter | this just goes to show that running asterisk as root may not be the best idea, further there are ways to limit any exposure of this and any yet undiscovered flaws |
| 14:42.14 | trixter | despite your insistance that if you dont know about a problem it doesnt exist |
| 14:42.33 | Corydon76-home | You're assuming again |
| 14:42.36 | drray | I don't believe that is what was suggested trixter |
| 14:42.38 | Corydon76-home | When did I say that? |
| 14:42.56 | Corydon76-home | You might want to see a head doctor; you're hearing things. |
| 14:45.11 | h3x | it would be a lot easier to work on asterisk security once its more stable |
| 14:45.18 | drray | I don't use any variables in my extensions.conf |
| 14:45.19 | h3x | its just unforunate that its marketed as a "stable" product now |
| 14:45.43 | Corydon76-home | We don't use the word "stable" anymore. It doesn't mean what people thought it meant |
| 14:45.48 | h3x | stable as in not thousands of commits a day heh |
| 14:46.02 | Corydon76-home | We only ever meant stable to mean "feature-frozen" |
| 14:46.14 | Corydon76-home | stable as in "unchanging API" |
| 14:46.25 | drray | should be "most likely" and "least likely" |
| 14:46.25 | h3x | yeah i know |
| 14:46.30 | h3x | unfortunately its still too early to do that even |
| 14:46.42 | Corydon76-home | No, 1.2's API is frozen |
| 14:47.03 | drray | I hate to take the same approach with asterisk as I do with windows.. my asterisk box works |
| 14:47.10 | Corydon76-home | The development branch will get changes to API, but 1.2 will stay as it is |
| 14:47.18 | drray | I don't know what your problem is |
| 14:47.29 | h3x | The god damn API should be forwards and backwards compatible without having to modify it at that low of a level every time |
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| 14:48.00 | Corydon76-home | Well, we find problems that need to be fixed with a change in API. There's no way around it |
| 14:48.27 | h3x | a rewrite :) |
| 14:48.42 | drray | this is not a slight, but the fact that astersik even works is remarkable to me.. |
| 14:48.58 | h3x | no kidding |
| 14:49.53 | h3x | it could have been planned a lot better though |
| 14:50.05 | drray | I don't even think asterisk is half as cool as teh TDM stuf |
| 14:50.07 | h3x | but its hard to plan something when you are the first one to do it |
| 14:50.38 | Corydon76-home | Hindsight is 20/20 |
| 14:51.21 | drray | well, thankfully we ahve openpbx to do it right |
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| 14:51.30 | drray | that was aalso sarcasm |
| 14:51.34 | h3x | openpbx is just a fork |
| 14:51.35 | h3x | heh |
| 14:51.36 | puzzled | hi |
| 14:51.45 | coppice | h3x: it was planned as a platform with no VoIP. things change |
| 14:51.47 | Corydon76-home | We've got a very good architecture, but there's always room for improvement |
| 14:52.14 | Corydon76-home | coppice: I thought Mark always planned for IAX, though |
| 14:52.18 | h3x | yeah like writing most of it in some interpeted language |
| 14:52.31 | Corydon76-home | coppice: otherwise, why abstract out the channel drivers? |
| 14:52.39 | h3x | which would help solve a lot of security and forwards compatibility issues |
| 14:52.47 | drray | well, the TDMoE is brilliant outside the box thinking |
| 14:53.02 | h3x | TDMoE isnt the first implementation of such a thing |
| 14:53.10 | h3x | RAD has been making devices for several years prior that do that |
| 14:53.15 | coppice | in 1999 anything over an IP link had a very low to non-existant position in the scheme of things |
| 14:53.46 | h3x | i donno about that |
| 14:53.59 | h3x | i used some h.323 stuff around then |
| 14:54.10 | Corydon76-home | h3x: believe coppice, he's been around since before Asterisk |
| 14:54.14 | drray | IP links were used by carriers to route calls before then |
| 14:54.22 | coppice | i mean in asterisk terms, not generally |
| 14:54.29 | h3x | so was I :P I did lots of cti development with aculab boards |
| 14:54.36 | h3x | oh |
| 14:55.23 | h3x | if things had taken different regulatory turns with VoIP, we would all be dealing with TDM |
| 14:55.24 | h3x | heh |
| 14:55.27 | Corydon76-home | I've only been around Asterisk since 2002, and I'm considered one of the old hands... |
| 14:56.32 | benjk_ | what about h.100 |
| 14:56.47 | benjk_ | isn't that some form of TDMoIP |
| 14:56.51 | h3x | no |
| 14:57.04 | h3x | H.100 is a replacement for MVIP / SCBus/ PEB |
| 14:57.14 | h3x | its a ribbon cable to connect cards together |
| 14:57.15 | drray | TMA |
| 14:57.29 | benjk_ | ok |
| 14:57.43 | h3x | there is a PICMG standard for packet over ethernet thing |
| 14:57.51 | h3x | that carries time slots usually from H.100/H.110 |
| 14:57.52 | benjk_ | just saw it mentioned on some datasheets for bundling multiple telephony cards |
| 14:58.18 | h3x | but the ECTF calls that something else |
| 14:59.10 | h3x | im not even sure it was radified a standard |
| 14:59.40 | coppice | ECTF never finishes anything |
| 14:59.47 | h3x | hahah no kidding |
| 15:00.35 | coppice | they had humungous documents for stuff associated with h.100. nothing except h.100 itself every really appeared |
| 15:01.21 | h3x | well there was that one standard to unify switch control across many vendors of cards |
| 15:01.27 | h3x | but it sucks coz its a least common denominator |
| 15:01.39 | h3x | you still have to use native apis to do anything |
| 15:02.15 | h3x | i architected a whole bunch of stuff to keep track of channel allocation that could have been used for multiple vendors of boards in a system |
| 15:02.20 | h3x | and multiple h.100 busses etc |
| 15:02.47 | h3x | it was such a pain in the ass to deal with all that |
| 15:03.22 | h3x | any one input channel can be connected to an indefinate amount of output timeslots on those tdm switches |
| 15:03.41 | h3x | so if it was local on that board, i could route local resources and not take up h.100 timeslots |
| 15:04.03 | h3x | but if i added an output that was to go to another board, it had to restructure it all to go to h.100 with existing ts allocation |
| 15:04.30 | h3x | i look at all that code now and i cant even understand how it works. Heh |
| 15:05.07 | h3x | i should opensource that sdk i wrote for the hell of it |
| 15:08.51 | h3x | ah yes it was called S.100 |
| 15:09.57 | coppice | I remember S.100 In fact I remember both S100s :-) |
| 15:11.14 | h3x | i was long past that "problem" before any vendors implemented that crap |
| 15:12.06 | litage | is the Virbiage 3010 ATA locked into Freshtel, or can it be used with any provider? |
| 15:12.09 | h3x | if i could do it all over again i would have used NMS cards primarily, but at the time they just didnt have their shit together |
| 15:14.46 | drray | I need to find a chump to buy my TDM400's so I can score a TDM2400 |
| 15:15.11 | h3x | somehow i still have this feeling you are best off with a channel bank and t1 card |
| 15:15.11 | blop | a chump? |
| 15:15.12 | h3x | heh |
| 15:17.05 | drray | well, I have some locations with a channel bank and some t1 cards |
| 15:17.43 | drray | but I have a site with 4 fxo lines and 14 fxs lines, that this card would be perfect for |
| 15:18.42 | drray | the places that I can see outgrowing, I go channel bank and quad t1 card.. |
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| 15:20.04 | cryzeck | anyone know where i can find app_radius? |
| 15:20.11 | drray | I usually lay it out and say, if you ever plan to replace your existing system, this is better.. but they usually won't spring for the channel bank |
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| 15:28.23 | benjk_ | mog are you here? |
| 15:28.46 | h3x | even with 4 lines sometimes you are better off with a fractional t1 |
| 15:28.52 | h3x | from the telco that is |
| 15:28.59 | h3x | or just order voip |
| 15:29.14 | benjk_ | if your telco sells fractional PRIs ;-) |
| 15:30.42 | drray | our main telco split ours, half coper and half PRI |
| 15:30.42 | h3x | can you get dids |
| 15:31.04 | drray | yes |
| 15:31.15 | h3x | and... |
| 15:31.19 | drray | I know |
| 15:32.00 | benjk_ | overe here, no fractional circuits from any telco, nationwide |
| 15:32.16 | benjk_ | it's either all or nothing, take it or leave it |
| 15:32.25 | h3x | oh you are in japan right? |
| 15:32.31 | benjk_ | yeah |
| 15:33.39 | Corydon76-home | Hooray for government-sponsored monopolies |
| 15:33.54 | benjk_ | yeah |
| 15:34.11 | benjk_ | well, they "got rid" of the monopoly |
| 15:34.17 | benjk_ | they split NTT in two halves |
| 15:34.25 | benjk_ | to get two competitors |
| 15:34.30 | benjk_ | or did they not? |
| 15:34.54 | benjk_ | The trouble is that NTT East is in the East of Japan and NTT West is in the West of Japan |
| 15:35.08 | benjk_ | I still can't figure out the competition bit |
| 15:35.45 | benjk_ | Ah the joy of Japanese logic |
| 15:36.24 | drray | at least they are not reassembling like at&t is |
| 15:37.14 | benjk_ | Well, the idea of splitting into East and West was a step in the right direction |
| 15:37.31 | benjk_ | but they should have followed through with the Argentina model |
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| 15:38.16 | benjk_ | When Argetina was liberalising, they auctioned off the North and South halves of their goevernment owned telecom monopoly |
| 15:38.34 | benjk_ | and each winner had the obligation to rebuild the missing half within 2 years |
| 15:38.50 | benjk_ | it took them less than 1 year |
| 15:39.20 | benjk_ | and ever since Argentina has two very competitive fixed line telcos |
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| 16:27.12 | christo | how can I tell if my E1 card is a TE405P or a TE410P or something else? This is on a remote linux box, so I don't have physical access to the hardware. |
| 16:28.26 | TheCops | christo, lspci -v I guess |
| 16:29.12 | christo | mmm no good |
| 16:29.31 | christo | I've tried lspci and cat /proc/pci, but it doesn't comeup |
| 16:30.34 | TheCops | christo, in your dmesg maybe |
| 16:30.51 | christo | bingo - |
| 16:30.55 | christo | good thinking :) |
| 16:31.04 | TheCops | :) |
| 16:31.57 | TheCops | arg, power failure at my office, bbl |
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| 16:44.27 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody here had a problem building zaptel 1.0.10 on an SMP system? |
| 16:47.14 | mazimp | have a problem receiving SIP calls (unauthenticated) with asterisk 1.0.9, please help |
| 16:48.05 | tzafrir_laptop | sorry. My mistake. The system had gcc 4.0 but was using kernel-headers built with gcc 3.3 |
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| 17:01.54 | mazimp | I'm searching for a directive to get asterisk 1.0.9 acepting an unauthorized incoming SIP call |
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| 17:03.07 | benjk_ | insecure=very |
| 17:08.22 | mazimp | insecure=very didn't help, even tried autocreatepeer, but 1.0.9 doesn't know this, right? |
| 17:12.51 | tzafrir_laptop | bah, had to downgrade a system from Testing to Sarge. Hopefuly this will work... |
| 17:13.31 | tzafrir_laptop | mazimp, isn't there a guest user or something? |
| 17:15.21 | mazimp | my SIP provider routes incoming calls to me and the clients can't provide any authentication-info, don't know, how to set up a "blank" guest-user for this |
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| 17:34.42 | cdcarson | hello everyone. |
| 17:36.35 | cdcarson | I have a problem that has been driving me crazy!!! I am having issues with my Wildcard X100P. It will receive calls, but will not work with any outbound routing. I just get "all circuits are busy now"! |
| 17:39.42 | Ikarus | Hrm, the TDM2400 card seems to be bloody annoying when working with old European circuits which are handled in bunches of 30 (because the size of an E1), let alone that the specific connector doesn't seem to be in use anywhere here |
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| 17:42.15 | Flauto | hello people |
| 17:44.25 | [TK]D-Fender | cdcarson, copy your extensios.conf & zapata.conf into http://www.pastebin.ca and I'll take a look for you |
| 17:46.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Hey file! Got my server back up and running, and am configuring my SPA-3000 for PST routing right now |
| 17:46.50 | file | saweet |
| 17:48.45 | [TK]D-Fender | it will be soon. Dialplan is all fixed up just need to actually be able to CALL somewhere now ;) |
| 17:49.22 | [TK]D-Fender | and I wiped everything on my server except for 2 backup folders and did a full install over it. So was more of an annoyance to recover from last nights blunder |
| 17:50.10 | Flauto | i reinstalled my system a couple of days |
| 17:50.29 | [TK]D-Fender | So right now I'm just trying to find a decent guide to help me finish getting this SPA3K set up right |
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| 17:51.07 | Flauto | i backed up all the all the files for my system so it took me only a couple of hours to back up everything |
| 17:51.49 | Flauto | fender, i use spa3k |
| 17:51.56 | Flauto | what do you need from that |
| 17:52.35 | kusznir | Hi all: I was wondering if someone could help be a bit with my extentions.conf. I'm trying to set CID for outbound calls depending on what connection it is using. |
| 17:52.38 | [TK]D-Fender | I need the PSTN -> SIP setup. |
| 17:52.56 | Flauto | you are using gateway? |
| 17:53.03 | [TK]D-Fender | The FXS part is always easy for SPA's, its just that the PSTN part is trick from what I've read. |
| 17:53.16 | Flauto | it is very easy |
| 17:53.31 | Flauto | if you have a pstn line, a real pstn |
| 17:53.33 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm using SPA-2000,3000,941 as phones for * and the 3000 as PST gateway. |
| 17:53.41 | Flauto | you just need to allow pstn ring through |
| 17:53.45 | [TK]D-Fender | yes, normal Northa American PSTN. |
| 17:53.57 | kusznir | I've set up my FWD outbound by prefixing the [fwd-outbound] context with SetCIDNum and SetCIDName. I could go and do that for all my other trunks, but since they're all the same and there's half a dozen places, I'd like to do it in one place. |
| 17:54.32 | Flauto | okay |
| 17:54.41 | Flauto | just allow pstn ring through |
| 17:54.48 | Flauto | and pstn to voip |
| 17:55.03 | Flauto | and set a password for accessing your voip by calling your pstn |
| 17:55.13 | Flauto | and on the dial plan in line 1 |
| 17:55.20 | kusznir | My idea was to set up a [ptsn-outbound] context that includes all the trunk interfaces. Then, from my [sip-outbound] (where all my calls start), I'd have a _.,1,SetCID... entry, follwed by a Goto(outbound-ptsn). |
| 17:55.30 | Flauto | add a gate way to pstn |
| 17:56.09 | Flauto | let me see what i have under spa 300 |
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| 17:56.19 | kusznir | Before these rules, I included all my other lines (internal extentions, FWD, IAXtel, etc). I thought it would match the most specifc entry found, but it seems to go directly to this generic rule for ptsn-outbound. |
| 17:56.29 | kusznir | why? Is there a better way to accomplish this? |
| 17:58.45 | Flauto | fender, are you there |
| 17:59.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Flauto, can't see that ring-through options yet |
| 17:59.44 | [TK]D-Fender | yeah I'm here, just killing my ringers on other phones for testing. |
| 18:04.57 | Flauto | pstn ring thru line 1 is right under pstn-to-voip gateway enable |
| 18:05.47 | Flauto | see it now |
| 18:06.57 | [TK]D-Fender | now I think I see more of what I should be looking for... missed it earllier somehow |
| 18:06.57 | Flauto | you can get a cheap x100p to connect your pstn line to your asterisk |
| 18:07.20 | [TK]D-Fender | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.23 | Flauto | you need to be logged in as admin and using the advanced mode |
| 18:07.48 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm going "pure SIP" for interfaces with * at this point. |
| 18:07.49 | file | Mental Note: Never go for binary RPMs on an FC4 system for Postgresql |
| 18:07.58 | Flauto | what probelm did you have with tdm228? |
| 18:08.40 | Flauto | i have x100p and it does its job in a way |
| 18:08.48 | Flauto | but i do have problems as well |
| 18:09.15 | [TK]D-Fender | ok I jsut did some changes... am testing now |
| 18:09.32 | file | [TK]D-Fender: there's supposedly a big document on voip-info for the 3k |
| 18:10.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Flauto, I didn't need the 2nd FX0 port (decided I wasn't spending more on another PSTN line), and I disliked having to pulg analog phones right into my server (which is no longer physcally convenient) |
| 18:11.37 | Flauto | understand |
| 18:12.29 | [TK]D-Fender | and in seling it I got an SPA-941 and the SPA-3000 for the same cash and I think ven a little more back |
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| 18:13.52 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, its "sortof answering now, just not auto-passing the call to *. it answered, gave me a quick stutter tone and then I was able to dial an ext. |
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| 18:19.11 | Flauto | how much did you pay for that card |
| 18:21.14 | [TK]D-Fender | around $500CAD at the time. Sold it for $350CAD, and got my SPA941 & 3000 for $250USD |
| 18:21.43 | Flauto | spa3k is around 100 us dollors |
| 18:22.51 | [TK]D-Fender | yup |
| 18:22.54 | [TK]D-Fender | thats what I payed |
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| 18:27.24 | tmccrary | FUN STUFF |
| 18:28.07 | [TK]D-Fender | :/ |
| 18:35.24 | [TK]D-Fender | well I've got it answering calls, just not passing the CID.... |
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| 18:40.01 | Druken | [TK]D-Fender: wut ya trying todo ? |
| 18:40.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Get my SPA-3000 to pass the caller ID to * for incoming calls |
| 18:40.34 | Druken | your using an ata to answer calls? |
| 18:40.40 | Druken | that's diffrent... |
| 18:40.49 | [TK]D-Fender | just got it to work :) |
| 18:40.57 | file | one way, one way, one way, one way! |
| 18:41.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Well... tahts the point of the SPA-3000 you know..... |
| 18:41.07 | file | one way or another... I'm gonna code you... I'm gonna get you! |
| 18:41.11 | file | one way or another, I'm gonna compile you |
| 18:41.59 | Druken | this isn'y disney ya know... |
| 18:42.45 | Druken | [TK]D-Fender: no i didn't know that was the point |
| 18:42.53 | Druken | it's an intresting idea reguardless |
| 18:43.56 | tmccrary | with gnu make, does anyone know the command to set the install prefix |
| 18:44.01 | tmccrary | or the variable rather |
| 18:44.15 | tmccrary | n/m |
| 18:44.18 | [TK]D-Fender | The SPA-3000 provides 1 FXO & 1 FXS. Removes the need for sepcial hardware in your server. Which is exactly what I wanted. My TDM22B was flakey and I diliked having phones plugged into my server directly. |
| 18:44.54 | Druken | [TK]D-Fender: hehe don't get me started on TDM's.... |
| 18:45.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Now I do0n't have to worry about disconnect detection, IRQ sharing, RJ11 wiring INTO my server, etc. |
| 18:45.52 | Druken | hehe don't ever look behind my shit :) |
| 18:45.54 | tmccrary | are there any good multiport fxo/fxs "switches" with more than a handful of ports? |
| 18:46.13 | [TK]D-Fender | tmccrary, Try Audiocodes. |
| 18:46.35 | [TK]D-Fender | many hadfuls at a time :0 |
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| 18:46.40 | tmccrary | cool, thanks |
| 18:46.58 | Druken | the only handfull i want is from my wife... |
| 18:47.04 | tmccrary | currently I'm running a 4 fxo port TDM card (the latest one) |
| 18:47.47 | Druken | i'm waiting to see how horrible the 2400 will be |
| 18:47.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Much the same I would guess, only BIGGER :) |
| 18:48.08 | Druken | much bigger |
| 18:48.09 | Druken | hehe |
| 18:48.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Sangoma's upcoming model looks SWEET.... |
| 18:48.57 | [TK]D-Fender | Most ingenius PCI design I've come across in ages. |
| 18:49.36 | tzafrir_laptop | Is there any non-interactive IAX client (like sipp for SIP) that can be used to generate load? |
| 18:50.20 | Druken | tzafrir_laptop: you mean... there's something you may not know? |
| 18:50.32 | tmccrary | so with this audiocodes gear, you basically plug in your analog lines and setup a sip trunk to your pbx then? |
| 18:50.49 | Druken | sounds about right |
| 18:51.21 | tmccrary | because i've had problems with my tdm card and disconnect detection, although that's the only problem i've had |
| 18:52.05 | tmccrary | So, how much does this stuff run? |
| 18:52.41 | tmccrary | whoa |
| 18:52.45 | tmccrary | not cost effective |
| 18:53.15 | [TK]D-Fender | tmccrary, how many ports are you looking at getting? |
| 18:55.18 | tmccrary | lets say 16 |
| 18:56.00 | [TK]D-Fender | Audiocodes it a bit pricey, there are a few other decent choiced. check out www.voipsupply.com |
| 18:56.46 | [TK]D-Fender | But non of them seem as cost effectice as multiple low-density ATA's or the TDM2400. |
| 18:56.49 | tmccrary | thanks, I usually use voipsupply for my stuff. I like them a lot |
| 18:57.01 | tmccrary | yeah, its strange |
| 18:57.02 | [TK]D-Fender | But its a question of being PBX/hardware agnostic... |
| 18:57.13 | [TK]D-Fender | you pay for that... |
| 18:57.41 | tmccrary | really that should be cheaper though, considering they don't need licenses and can just build it to a spec |
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| 18:58.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Its a question of its commodity value, market conditions, competition, etc. |
| 18:58.17 | SpaceBass | hey folks |
| 18:58.25 | h3x | voipsupply is the walmart of telecom |
| 18:58.34 | tmccrary | is that a good thing or a bad thing? :) |
| 18:58.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Good for us :0 |
| 18:58.45 | tmccrary | hehe, yeah |
| 18:58.45 | SpaceBass | anyone know about finding firmware for an hatachi ip5000 |
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| 19:04.12 | [TK]D-Fender | I like Voipsupply as well. I equiped out office from them minus our Polycom's which I got from a local authorized reseller. Their price was better as well. |
| 19:05.28 | tmccrary | alright, almost got the realtime ldap driver working! |
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| 19:09.41 | |_chris_| | Hi guys - if anyone is around. I have a TDM400P and I am using SuSE9.2 - should I remove the packages I already added for asterisk (from SuSE9.2 DVD) and zaptel before following the install instructions that came with the card (and build out of cvs) ? |
| 19:10.18 | [TK]D-Fender | I'd say yes... you probably don't want any leftovers of your package install getting in the way. |
| 19:10.25 | [TK]D-Fender | do backup your configs though :) |
| 19:10.46 | |_chris_| | I am not using any (asterisk) configs yet - but good point =] |
| 19:12.00 | |_chris_| | I have been playing around with some configs how I think I will need them - my setup will be using one or two 4xFXO cards - and I want all the internal phones to be softphones, and not use FXS ports - does this make sense? |
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| 19:12.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Is there a problem with running hardphones? |
| 19:12.45 | |_chris_| | I am guessing that gizmo could be configured to ring as it is SIP compliant |
| 19:12.55 | |_chris_| | [TK]D-Fender: only that I would have to buy hard phones |
| 19:13.15 | [TK]D-Fender | I wouldn't touch Gizmo if you are running *. Just buy something standard |
| 19:13.22 | |_chris_| | and I heard it is better to keep only 1 card per machine (regardless if this is true, softphones seem the better choice) |
| 19:13.26 | [TK]D-Fender | I suppose tahts a reason. this is for an office, right? |
| 19:13.28 | |_chris_| | Gizmo is SIp compliant though right? |
| 19:13.36 | |_chris_| | yeah, like an office |
| 19:13.37 | [TK]D-Fender | cause softphones SUCK for the most part... |
| 19:13.57 | [TK]D-Fender | The only decent ones with propery functionality seem to cost as well. |
| 19:14.22 | file[laptop] | [TK]D-Fender: how did that copy of you know what I gave you work out |
| 19:14.43 | |_chris_| | hrm... I was thinking with Gb ethernet there shouldn't be an issue, I use skype, gizmo, google talk and broadvoice and a few other soft services for real world calls, these would only be 'digital headsets' I guess, plus there is less wiring... |
| 19:14.55 | |_chris_| | But you gave me something to think about |
| 19:15.12 | [TK]D-Fender | file, Seems to be ok, I haven't done a full "field test" behind double-nat (I used it in-LAN but pointed you our public IP. |
| 19:15.46 | [TK]D-Fender | s/you/it to |
| 19:16.05 | |_chris_| | so [TK]D-Fender: in what capacity do you use asterisk? SOHO setup? |
| 19:16.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Home (running SPA-941, SPA-3000, SPA-2000, and at the office with a Sangom A104d, PRI, Rhinco Channel bank, and Polycom IP 600's for employees |
| 19:17.07 | [TK]D-Fender | and I can't type for SHIT today! |
| 19:17.09 | [TK]D-Fender | WHEE! |
| 19:17.17 | [TK]D-Fender | asdfkjshdllfdgsd |
| 19:17.23 | file[laptop] | Rhinco! |
| 19:17.34 | [TK]D-Fender | ind'd!@ |
| 19:17.40 | |_chris_| | erm heh |
| 19:17.48 | |_chris_| | well that made no sense to me ++good |
| 19:17.48 | tmccrary | softphones = only good for testing and even then they aren't that good |
| 19:18.01 | tmccrary | well, and for remote "on the road" users |
| 19:18.08 | |_chris_| | tmccrary: really? in what sense are they not good? unreliable? don't ring? |
| 19:18.16 | file[laptop] | ronco! |
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| 19:18.21 | tmccrary | all that and more, plus there are more configuration hassles |
| 19:18.29 | tmccrary | softphones are good if you don't have any other choice, basically |
| 19:18.35 | [TK]D-Fender | |_chris_|, I run it at my office for our full corp phone solution with 26 Polycom IP 600 Hard phones, and a ISDN-PRI. |
| 19:18.50 | [TK]D-Fender | And at home witha whole whack of Sipura stuff :) |
| 19:18.57 | file[laptop] | Ronco VoIP Service! |
| 19:19.32 | |_chris_| | I have a few phone handsets... but I only use them as handsets for skype/gizmo |
| 19:19.44 | [TK]D-Fender | |_chris_|, MANY softphones don't even have a TRANSFER option. X-Lite doesn't... they make you pay for X-Pro to get it. Amongst other "features" |
| 19:19.47 | h3x | Walmart VoIP! |
| 19:20.07 | |_chris_| | [TK]D-Fender: Now I get it - surely you can arrange transfer within asterisk though? |
| 19:20.14 | |_chris_| | and have a console that controls the transfer? |
| 19:20.23 | [TK]D-Fender | With DTMF inband? EW!!!!!!! FUGLY! |
| 19:20.28 | [TK]D-Fender | and painful. |
| 19:20.39 | |_chris_| | what is DTMF inband ? :-) |
| 19:20.47 | [TK]D-Fender | Give them PHONES dammit :) |
| 19:20.54 | tmccrary | yes, the ldap is working, asterisk is AWESOME |
| 19:20.54 | h3x | [TK]D-Fender: Good thing you dont need a transfer button. Use # transfer |
| 19:20.56 | [TK]D-Fender | At least use analog with ATA's |
| 19:21.29 | [TK]D-Fender | h3x, DTMF inband transfers make your company look like "Mick Mouse Inc"... WITHOUT Michael Eisner! |
| 19:21.32 | |_chris_| | ATA's? not those big things from starwars! |
| 19:21.41 | mustafadeeb2 | guys, i need a simple billing package , read cdr , generate invoices |
| 19:21.49 | |_chris_| | Well, we aren't actually going to need transfers |
| 19:21.58 | [TK]D-Fender | |_chris_|, no, those are AT-AT's ;) |
| 19:22.01 | h3x | [TK]D-Fender: Uh, you dont need to use inband. |
| 19:22.08 | h3x | use INFO or RFC2833 |
| 19:22.10 | h3x | and the caller cant hear it |
| 19:22.11 | h3x | duh |
| 19:22.22 | tmccrary | isn't that voip only though |
| 19:22.25 | tmccrary | and sip specific? |
| 19:22.33 | h3x | voip specific |
| 19:22.40 | h3x | you dont need to clamp DTMF tones |
| 19:22.43 | |_chris_| | aaaah ;-) well, I think we don't need transfers - SIP is a standard though right, so anything SIP specific isn't necessarily bad? |
| 19:22.46 | h3x | if they arent DTMF coming into asterisk to begin with |
| 19:22.48 | h3x | its just a message |
| 19:22.58 | tmccrary | SIP is good, its vanilla but its a standard |
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| 19:23.16 | [TK]D-Fender | h3x, there are worse reasons not to use DTMF. Imagine you ar in an IVR and NEED #..... |
| 19:23.16 | mustafadeeb2 | hi |
| 19:23.35 | tmccrary | i had some ShoreTel drones trying to sell me their 100k+ phone system. They kept telling me how "FREE WARE" voip wasn't as good. |
| 19:24.01 | |_chris_| | if I connect one line to this card - I should be able to configure it to make a SIP phone ring on my own machine (the same host machine) and get things like music on hold working pretty easily right? |
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| 19:24.11 | tmccrary | man, I've never used free ware voip systems, but from the sounds of it, I never do. |
| 19:24.18 | [TK]D-Fender | tmccrary, "as good" is something any salesman will pervert to suit their strengths. |
| 19:24.19 | |_chris_| | Also, while I am here, anyone use Flash Operator Panel and SugarCRM integration? |
| 19:24.40 | mustafadeeb2 | hi |
| 19:24.56 | mustafadeeb2 | i'm looking for a simple billing solution |
| 19:25.05 | [TK]D-Fender | |_chris_|, * is pretty easy with a little know-how. Definately NOT rocket-science. |
| 19:25.13 | mustafadeeb2 | just read the CDR, generate invoices... |
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| 19:25.52 | |_chris_| | thanks for the help and wisdom [TK]D-Fender : i'll be back... |
| 19:25.53 | file[laptop] | Hmm-home!!! |
| 19:25.59 | Hmm-home | hey file |
| 19:26.04 | Hmm-home | what the heck is a stale nonce? |
| 19:26.23 | Xride | is it possible to run asterisk as pbx on a p3 500? |
| 19:26.30 | file[laptop] | Hmm-home: it means a device tried to use an old challenge value and asterisk said no-no! |
| 19:26.38 | Hmm-home | ahhh |
| 19:26.51 | mustafadeeb2 | xride: yes |
| 19:27.07 | tmccrary | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Billing |
| 19:27.11 | file[laptop] | Hmm-home: are you espically hot'n'sexy today? |
| 19:27.12 | h3x | [TK]D-Fender: usually you only transfer inbound calls and therefore dont need it in both directions |
| 19:27.16 | h3x | and IVRs generally don't call you |
| 19:27.38 | h3x | and if you do need to, theres a hack to make double pound transfer or something |
| 19:27.44 | mustafadeeb2 | thanks tmccrary, but does anyone have an experience |
| 19:28.06 | tmccrary | I wanted to create a reverse ivr for my techs, so when they call dell, it puts the dell voice pool on an IVR that says "THank you for assisting us, when you are ready press 3" and then have it call the tech. |
| 19:28.07 | [TK]D-Fender | No but if you are in an IVR and want to pass the call off for someone to complete. Not the best example, but seriously.. we are talking about a BUSINESS scenario here. For someones cheap home setup sure I guess... |
| 19:28.23 | Xride | mustafadeeb2: then the hard part is remaining it is installed now the configure is needed .. |
| 19:29.20 | mustafadeeb2 | Xride, as long as you are not doing call recording and transcoding , you should be fine |
| 19:30.26 | Xride | mustafadeeb2: simple at home test of asterisk |
| 19:31.20 | Xride | mustafadeeb2: just to learn about it |
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| 19:33.26 | h3x | i ran a quad t1 board on a pIII 500 once |
| 19:33.37 | Juxt | hello |
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| 19:33.57 | Juxt | is there a way to convert .wav files to SLINER format with sox? |
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| 19:35.18 | Flauto | it is quiet here |
| 19:35.50 | file[laptop] | burn baby burn! |
| 19:36.21 | Flauto | burn what |
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| 19:36.42 | file[laptop] | hrm, something! |
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| 19:37.46 | SpaceBass | anyone know about finding firmware for an hatachi ip5000 |
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| 19:40.00 | Hmm-home | cvs checkout -r v1-2 will give me the latest stable right? |
| 19:42.14 | file[laptop] | that'll give you the 1.2 stuff, if you want 1.0 stable it's v1-0 |
| 19:42.22 | Hmm-home | yeah |
| 19:42.26 | Hmm-home | i need the 1.2 stuff |
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| 19:49.08 | Hmm-home | dang ztdummy |
| 19:49.23 | file[laptop] | BoRiS BoRiS BoRiS |
| 19:53.25 | benjk_ | any yankees around here? |
| 19:54.13 | benjk_ | a friend wants to know if he can buy a prepaid SIM card for his GSM (tri-mode) when he will visit the US in December. |
| 19:54.25 | M_at | Actually that's me |
| 19:54.28 | justinu | i doubt it |
| 19:54.43 | benjk_ | haha |
| 19:54.51 | benjk_ | Hi Matt |
| 19:54.56 | M_at | Hola |
| 19:54.59 | file[laptop] | sure you can |
| 19:55.13 | file[laptop] | http://www.boardwalkcommunications.com/ you could buy one there ahead of time and only activate it when you arrive |
| 19:55.19 | Hmm-home | argh vikings scored, but a flag on the play |
| 19:55.23 | benjk_ | cool |
| 19:56.27 | Hmm-home | SCORE |
| 19:56.31 | M_at | cingular is GSM? |
| 19:56.39 | justinu | yeah |
| 19:56.51 | justinu | GSM1900 in some places |
| 19:56.53 | M_at | 850 and 1900Mhz? |
| 19:56.56 | justinu | yes |
| 19:57.15 | Hmm-home | is chan_modem needed for anything if i'm only using sip and iax? |
| 19:57.16 | M_at | Cool - bough a quad band handset as I seem to be in the US more than anywhere else these days |
| 19:57.40 | justinu | yeah... i use a treo 650 unlocked |
| 19:58.48 | BoRiS | file!!!! |
| 19:59.09 | BoRiS | Whats up? |
| 19:59.16 | file[laptop] | watching a movie on ASN |
| 19:59.19 | file[laptop] | you? |
| 19:59.43 | BoRiS | watching a science show about Jupiter. |
| 20:00.10 | file[laptop] | drops of jupiter! |
| 20:00.13 | Hmm-home | ok i killed asterisk re downloaded v1.2 compiled now it's complaining chan_modem.so can't be loaded |
| 20:00.37 | file[laptop] | Hmm-home: that's because you didn't wipe your modules directly, as chan_modem.so doesn't exist anymore :) and it told you that when you did make install :P |
| 20:00.57 | file[laptop] | directly = directory |
| 20:01.15 | Hmm-home | haha rm -rf /usr/lib/asterisk/modules |
| 20:01.19 | Hmm-home | is what I did |
| 20:01.48 | Hmm-home | that should take care of the modules directory |
| 20:02.19 | Hmm-home | i didn't wipe out my previous configs, where modules.conf tells chan_modem.so to load |
| 20:02.27 | file[laptop] | ah |
| 20:02.30 | file[laptop] | that's silly |
| 20:03.00 | Hmm-home | awwww |
| 20:03.08 | Hmm-home | british telecom is giving me hell with callerid |
| 20:03.34 | M_at | Not providing it or just because it's different? |
| 20:03.44 | Hmm-home | i can't set it |
| 20:04.18 | Xride | is it possble to use a sip client on a p2 300? |
| 20:04.21 | Hmm-home | the CID provided when you call BT to BT is different than when you call BT to say a states number |
| 20:09.05 | christo | Hmm-home - there was a recent patch released to fix the BT CLI bug AFAIK |
| 20:10.19 | junbug | Xride, y not |
| 20:11.11 | junbug | Xride, i wouldnt run too many apps while its runing tho |
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| 20:19.58 | Xride | junbug: trying linphone atm |
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| 20:25.17 | junbug | Xride, shouldnt be an issue.. |
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| 20:30.15 | hhoffman | do spaces matter in extensions.conf? |
| 20:31.24 | Qwell[] | hhoffman: depends where |
| 20:31.31 | Qwell[] | obviously, ex ten => isn't going to work |
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| 20:32.38 | Hmm-home | johnoson is just kicking ass now |
| 20:32.43 | Hmm-home | thank god cullpepper is out |
| 20:33.20 | hhoffman | Qwell[]: can I do ' exten => s,...' with exten indented? |
| 20:33.38 | Qwell[] | hhoffman: try it |
| 20:33.44 | tmccrary | man I wish asterisk used xml :) |
| 20:34.05 | Qwell[] | tmccrary: there is a patch :p |
| 20:34.09 | Qwell[] | I think |
| 20:34.33 | hhoffman | Qwell[]: I did, that's what I'm asking ;-) It doesn't seem to work, just wondering if that's known or perhaps I'm doing something wrong |
| 20:34.44 | hhoffman | s/what/why/ |
| 20:34.48 | Qwell[] | hhoffman: well, when in doubt, try without |
| 20:35.38 | tmccrary | cool, I'll have to check it out |
| 20:35.56 | file[laptop] | when in doubt, stab someone - it'll help pass the time |
| 20:35.58 | Qwell[] | tmccrary: I don't know if it was a patch, or just a guy suggesting it, but he made it sound like he had it working |
| 20:36.13 | hhoffman | ha! |
| 20:37.31 | tmccrary | hehe, l |
| 20:37.34 | tmccrary | k |
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| 20:45.27 | shimi | hi all. i have an asterisk running (with asterisk@home), and I have 2 outbound routes - "7" to a VoIP service and "9" to the PSTN. Is it possible to make some "rule" that if I dial certain numbers (without 9/7), like 0[1-9] or 00[*], they'll go to each of those routes respectively? |
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| 20:48.44 | killfill | hi.. |
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| 20:49.27 | _Thor | Hello everybody |
| 20:58.56 | killfill | i think i have something bad configured. Im trying to makeasterisk send the incoming zap line to a internal softphone. it doesnt seems to work.. :-/ |
| 20:59.13 | Qwell[] | killfill: How doesn't it work? |
| 20:59.14 | killfill | http://pastebin.com/440122 |
| 20:59.17 | Qwell[] | killfill: s,1,Dial(SIP/bob) |
| 20:59.37 | killfill | i can heard the line is attended.. but i hear nothing.. |
| 20:59.44 | file[laptop] | hey look, it's a loop |
| 20:59.47 | Qwell[] | heh |
| 20:59.55 | Qwell[] | goto loops are cool |
| 20:59.57 | killfill | im with AMP... |
| 21:00.04 | Qwell[] | There is your problem. |
| 21:00.17 | killfill | heh.. |
| 21:00.21 | Qwell[] | No, seriously |
| 21:00.57 | killfill | its know to writed bad config files?.. |
| 21:01.06 | tmccrary | is anyone here using asterisk realtime (or have experience with it at all)? |
| 21:01.14 | Qwell[] | tmccrary: some, whats up? |
| 21:02.05 | tmccrary | i have a connection setup and everything, the data is in the db, but asterisk never queries the db after it establishes a connection |
| 21:02.17 | Qwell[] | tmccrary: extconfig.conf setup? |
| 21:02.18 | tmccrary | I'm looking at voip-info.org, but that's a mess |
| 21:02.33 | tmccrary | with extconfig, I know there have been some changes, let me run this by you |
| 21:02.49 | Qwell[] | extconfig is dead simple... |
| 21:02.59 | Qwell[] | queues => odbc,asterisk,tablename |
| 21:03.36 | tmccrary | honestly, i'm using an ldap implementation and not mysql or unix-odbc, but ldap is just a backend (so it shouldn't be an issue) |
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| 21:03.48 | tmccrary | in the above statement, what does the asterisk portion stand for? |
| 21:03.51 | Qwell[] | then replace odbc with ldap, probably |
| 21:03.55 | Qwell[] | database name |
| 21:04.26 | tmccrary | in the res_blahblah.conf, that is the [database] dbname=,dbpasword stuff right? |
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| 21:04.40 | tmccrary | and the table definitions go below |
| 21:04.55 | Qwell[] | sure |
| 21:05.00 | tmccrary | sipusers => ldap,_general,sip |
| 21:05.24 | tmccrary | that's what I'm using, but I don't ever get a query on the ldap server (looking at debug). |
| 21:05.33 | tmccrary | so, this is looking like an issue with the ldap implementation |
| 21:05.40 | Qwell[] | perhaps |
| 21:05.49 | tmccrary | is there anything that would cause asterisk to not use the extconfig settings? |
| 21:06.07 | rbd | can the MP3Player application (agi command) play Sun AU (g711 ulaw) streams as well? |
| 21:06.29 | Qwell[] | rbd: it can play MP3's...hence the "MP3" in "MP3Player" |
| 21:07.40 | rbd | Qwell, I figured mpg123 maybe supported ulaw as well but I guess not. is there any way that you know of to play a g711 ulaw (or linear PCM) streams, given a URL? |
| 21:08.28 | Qwell[] | rbd: look in musiconhold.conf, I believe it gives an example of how to play a ulaw stream |
| 21:08.40 | rbd | Qwell, I'll check it out. thanks |
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| 21:25.38 | tmccrary | alright, I got the ldap stuff working so far |
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| 21:26.39 | tmccrary | well, not actually working, because so far this realtime stuff looks like a huge clusterf*ck. But I can turn debugging on for certain sip peers! |
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| 21:37.59 | shimi | is there an option to "hijack" a call from a different extension? |
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| 21:45.58 | hhoffman | how does one go about installing Asterisk::AGI? |
| 21:46.32 | file[laptop] | you download it, and install it... |
| 21:46.58 | hhoffman | ah, so it's not in the tarball of asterisk-$ver ? |
| 21:47.11 | file[laptop] | correct |
| 21:47.14 | file[laptop] | it's not part of asterisk |
| 21:47.21 | hhoffman | I can't find it on CPAN either... is there a URL? |
| 21:47.44 | file[laptop] | I'll give you a hint, Google for "Asterisk::AGI" |
| 21:47.52 | file[laptop] | :) |
| 21:47.58 | hhoffman | already doing it ;-) |
| 21:48.04 | file[laptop] | it's the first URL that comes up. |
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| 21:49.00 | Night-0 | Anyone have a sample SEP<mac>.cnf for a Cisco 30 VIP? |
| 21:49.07 | chapeaurouge | hhoffman, i guess a 'perl -MCPAN -e 'install Asterisk::AGI' may do it? |
| 21:49.21 | Night-0 | My phone is registering, but sitting there saying 'Program Update'. |
| 21:49.33 | hhoffman | chapeaurouge: <hhoffman> I can't find it on CPAN either... is there a URL? |
| 21:49.42 | chapeaurouge | ah |
| 21:49.44 | chapeaurouge | hmm |
| 21:49.49 | chapeaurouge | sorry |
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| 21:50.56 | ILuv2Travel | Hey room |
| 21:51.06 | ILuv2Travel | err, channel for the sensitive folks. |
| 21:51.16 | chapeaurouge | hhoffman, i guess compiling from source then is the only way |
| 21:51.35 | chapeaurouge | hhoffman, http://asterisk.gnuinter.net/files/asterisk-perl-0.08.tar.gz |
| 21:52.02 | chapeaurouge | but im prolly a little late |
| 21:52.02 | chapeaurouge | ;) |
| 21:55.13 | Night-0 | Ah, incorrect firmware specified in my skinny.conf. |
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| 22:04.37 | hhoffman | chapeaurouge: thanks tho :-) |
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| 22:06.01 | Flauto | qwell |
| 22:06.06 | tmccrary | realtime config makes the console sip command useless! argh! |
| 22:08.42 | tmccrary | but at least it works! ;) |
| 22:09.08 | file[laptop] | it depends |
| 22:09.12 | file[laptop] | if you have caching turned on... |
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| 22:20.44 | jahani | hi |
| 22:20.48 | jahani | what mean this : |
| 22:20.50 | jahani | Nov 15 21:11:14 NOTICE[16766]: res_musiconhold.c:507 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! |
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| 23:02.26 | killfill | why do i get this? |
| 23:02.47 | killfill | http://pastebin.com/440302 |
| 23:04.32 | killfill | http://www.sofsis.cl/~killfill/asterisk.nuevo/ thats the config files.. |
| 23:04.50 | killfill | am i missing something? |
| 23:05.08 | justinu | looks like chan_phone.so is causing you to crash |
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| 23:26.08 | killfill | hm.. |
| 23:26.24 | killfill | justinu what does this mean?... |
| 23:27.02 | justinu | not sure, i don't have that problem |
| 23:27.36 | justinu | maybe your compile went bad or something |
| 23:28.34 | zigman | florz are you arround ? |
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| 23:39.19 | tmccrary | Can you get any higher debug? -vvvvvv |
| 23:39.26 | tmccrary | n/m |
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| 23:45.51 | tmccrary | is there a way to escape commas in asterisk configs? Specifically extconfig.conf |
| 23:46.32 | zigman | \ |
| 23:48.05 | tmccrary | nope |
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| 23:48.11 | tmccrary | that doesn't work |
| 23:48.15 | kuku5 | Anyone using faxing with 1.2 ? |
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| 23:54.52 | nassy | when i call my DID from teliasip i get a male voice message saying the subscriber i have dialed is not in service. i can make calls from my softip phone. what can i do to determine if the problem is with teliasip or my asterisk config. i am new and it does not help that teliasip sent me incorrect config instructions |
| 23:55.15 | BleedingMe | sounds like a teliasip problem |
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| 23:57.50 | nassy | i asked them to double check their config and sent them my config files. they said my config files were screwed up with a double entry in sip.conf for their context. when i checked all my sip.conf files i did not see any such incorrect. |
| 23:58.15 | nassy | do you know anyway i can make sure it is their problem |
| 23:58.35 | kuku5 | nassy: odds are its you |
| 23:58.51 | kuku5 | you probably didnt "register" |
| 23:59.27 | nassy | i know. especially since i am new. but they also sent me incorrect instructions as well as they told me they didnt have my account set up correctly the first time |