irclog2html for #asterisk on 20051202

`00:00.09`	`m160858`	`i think, do you not understand me`
`00:00.26`	`Damin`	`i think, but i do not!`
`00:00.33`	`file`	`Damin: do you want me to update that to latest trunk for you?`
`00:00.36`	`docelm0`	`Did DTMF work?`
`00:00.42`	`Damin`	`file: Yeah...`
`00:00.43`	`docelm0`	`cause to my knowledge it still doesnt..`
`00:00.46`	`file`	`Damin: k`
`00:00.56`	`Damin`	`docelm0: I think it does, because I'm sending it inband to you..`
`00:01.16`	`file`	`Damin: which patch?`
`00:01.16`	`docelm0`	`curious.. Can you try and see what happens if you do it now?`
`00:01.28`	`Damin`	`docelm0: Can't test it right now..`
`00:01.33`	`docelm0`	`k`
`00:01.37`	`Damin`	`docelm0: Well.. Yea.. I suppose I can.. hang on..`
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`00:01.52`	`docelm0`	`ok well I am out for a bit.. need to run to the store..`
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`00:02.05`	`docelm0`	`Im waiting on a CD to burn.. :)`
`00:02.06`	`SeanSmith44502`	`Ive been having a problem using a grandstream budgetline 101 phone and asterisk....I can only seem to do a "blind" transfer.. I have researched this and it seems many are having this problem. I am using the latest firmware for the phone and the newest rev of astersk.`
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`00:02.39`	`SeanSmith44502`	`Is there a fix for this issue? other than placing the call in park?`
`00:03.33`	`p1tst0p`	`when using realtime and mysql, for extentions, what is the context column used for..`
`00:04.22`	`docelm0`	`�SeanSmith44502� buy a new phone?`
`00:04.42`	`Damin`	`docelm0: Making a call now..`
`00:04.53`	`SeanSmith44502`	`<docelm0> really? are the grandstream that bad?`
`00:04.53`	`Damin`	`docelm0: Forced RFC2833 does not work.`
`00:04.55`	`docelm0`	`�p1tst0p� the context the line is in`
`00:05.16`	`docelm0`	`�SeanSmith44502� I dont know.. I have 50 GXP2000's in use with out a problem`
`00:05.43`	`docelm0`	`�Damin� What bout Inband?`
`00:06.31`	`SeanSmith44502`	`<docelm0> when doing a transfer can you anounce to the caller to the transfered party and then hang up?`
`00:06.44`	`docelm0`	`yep`
`00:07.07`	`SeanSmith44502`	`<docelm0> also do you have issues with placing people on hold and then hanging up (this causes the call to be dropped for me)`
`00:07.16`	`Damin`	`docelm0: inband works find..`
`00:07.30`	`docelm0`	`I have 40 phones in the US 4 in Canada and 6 in Australia`
`00:07.42`	`docelm0`	`�Damin� Were you using g729 or g711 w/ inband?`
`00:07.50`	`Damin`	`docelm0: 711...`
`00:08.01`	`Damin`	`docelm0: inband doesn't work w/ 729..`
`00:08.16`	`docelm0`	`I know.. Was wondering if you make some freak discovery`
`00:09.14`	`Damin`	`docelm0: Only discovery that I have made is that beer is good at any time of the day. ;)`
`00:09.33`	`docelm0`	`so I have noticed by you sleeping underneath a piano..`
`00:09.35`	`docelm0`	`Need more be said?`
`00:10.51`	`docelm0`	`:)`
`00:10.56`	`rajiv`	`is there a way to get VoiceMail() to leave amessage in 2 boxes ?`
`00:10.57`	`docelm0`	`bbiaf`
`00:11.21`	`AgiNamu`	`i guess if im sending SABMEs and nothing comes back.... the far end is down :)`
`00:12.12`	`Rawplayer`	`RE`
`00:13.36`	`file`	`Damin: okay it's done, wanna test it?`
`00:13.50`	`p1tst0p`	`docelm0, if i had this kind of setup.. with 2 tables in mysql, how can my extentions call my voicemail extentions.. http://pastebin.com/445564`
`00:14.06`	`m160858`	`[TK]D-Fender?`
`00:14.11`	`m160858`	`are u there?`
`00:14.15`	`m160858`	`sorry`
`00:14.20`	`m160858`	`but i need help`
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`00:15.29`	`Damin`	`file: Sure..`
`00:15.40`	`Damin`	`file: Upload it to the bugtracker..`
`00:15.49`	`file`	`Damin: this is against the latest 1.2 trunk :)`
`00:16.52`	`file`	`Damin: done`
`00:17.08`	`file`	`now knock yourself out`
`00:17.33`	`Damin`	`Thanks.. ;)`
`00:17.56`	`file`	`Damin: mmm wanna see something else cool I'm almost done?`
`00:18.53`	`file`	`see privmsg.`
`00:20.48`	`p1tst0p`	`http://pastebin.com/445569 <-- if i was using Realtime, and i had this setup.. with 2 tables, with extentions in each table.. how would i call the number's in the voicemail context ?`
`00:21.14`	`p1tst0p`	`oh, i see something wrong in that actually`
`00:21.23`	`[hC]`	`hold crap am i ever having a hard time lately when doing voip->voip calls with DTMF recognition`
`00:21.51`	`[hC]`	`calling from another voip provider to my * box, even via PRI in the middle, half the time the IVR misses digits or counts way too many`
`00:23.17`	`test34`	`Is digital phone with a cable company VOIP ? (ie brighthouse)`
`00:24.24`	`p1tst0p`	`try again ! http://pastebin.com/445577 <-- if i was using Realtime, and i had this setup.. with 2 tables, with extentions in each table.. how would i call the number's in the voicemail context ?`
`00:26.21`	`p1tst0p`	`its ok, sorted !`
`00:26.21`	`bziherl`	`is there a way to terminate a channel, even if client didn't send the BYE statement (let's say that the client softphone crashed before properly ending converastion?)`
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`00:29.15`	`Damin`	`file: crap.. I have to leave.. right in the middle of setting up to test that patch.. :)`
`00:29.30`	`file`	`kk`
`00:30.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`back...`
`00:30.19`	`file`	`front and side to side`
`00:30.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`m160858 : so what part of your queue isn't working? I saw it dialing each phone, but thery weren't all ready.`
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`00:32.02`	`pygrammer`	`Hey`
`00:32.19`	`pygrammer`	`Do any of you know whether or not Debian's "zaptel" package includes ztdummy for MOH, etc.?`
`00:32.22`	`m160858`	`hi`
`00:32.36`	`pygrammer`	`Doesn't seem like it does`
`00:32.36`	`m160858`	`that's works ok`
`00:32.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Packaged Asterisk = SUCK. Download from SVC/SVN`
`00:32.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SVN`
`00:32.48`	`m160858`	`i want only complete the idea`
`00:33.00`	`many`	`lol great fender.`
`00:33.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`m160858 : ok what part doesn't work?`
`00:33.11`	`m160858`	`when i call`
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`00:33.16`	`pygrammer`	`[TK]D-Fender: Why do Asterisk packages suck?`
`00:33.30`	`m160858`	`ringing the first extension`
`00:33.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[19:33] <many> lol great fender. <- finally somone acknowledges my supremacy!`
`00:33.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`m160858 : it seemed to be doing that already..`
`00:33.58`	`m160858`	`but only i answer this extension, ringing the second extension`
`00:34.17`	`m160858`	`that's ok, but i want if i don't answer`
`00:34.35`	`m160858`	`ring the second, the third .. etc`
`00:34.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`thats what it does now no?`
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`00:35.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pygrammer : packages are always out of date and sometimes missing bits....`
`00:36.10`	`PoWeRKiLL`	`hi`
`00:36.34`	`m160858`	`if i doesn't answer`
`00:36.36`	`m160858`	`no`
`00:36.42`	`m160858`	`if i answer .. yes`
`00:36.50`	`m160858`	`do u understand me?`
`00:36.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Some things I like to do with packages, but a lot I like to compile normally just to know that its checking everything else I've got.`
`00:37.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`m160858 : nope. start over...`
`00:39.58`	`pygrammer`	`[TK]D-Fender: heh - well, I simply wondered if zaptel for Debian included ztdummy - I know zaptel-source does, but I'm wondering about zaptel, since when I modprobe after installing, it can't find the module: maybe I have to reboot`
`00:40.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Maybe... * is just one of those things I'll never trust to packaging....`
`00:41.06`	`pygrammer`	`heh`
`00:41.20`	`pygrammer`	`bbs`
`00:41.23`	`many`	`if you like the pain`
`00:41.52`	`many`	`otoh you shouldnt even consider to force this opinion on others. compiling from cvs should be only done by people who know what they are doing`
`00:42.07`	`many`	`all this kids compiling self not understanding shit is annoying.`
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`00:43.14`	`rajiv`	`how can i get VoiceMail() to leave a message in 2 boxes ?`
`00:43.31`	`msw`	`[TK]D-Fender: packaged asterisk doesn't suck`
`00:43.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`CVS is typically what all the instructions show how to do and you can usually just literally copy & paste the instructions...`
`00:43.46`	`mog_work`	`well not conary packaged msw`
`00:43.47`	`mog_work`	`but rest`
`00:43.49`	`mog_work`	`yes`
`00:43.58`	`msw`	`mog_work: some packagers of * do a bad job`
`00:43.59`	`many`	`the instructions dont tell ya how to troubleshoot minor things`
`00:44.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`many : I suppose, but I hear so little of things going wrong...`
`00:44.34`	`msw`	`it's not inherently a packaging versus cvs thing`
`00:44.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`msw : Just stats speaking...`
`00:44.45`	`many`	`you dont read -user then.`
`00:44.45`	`msw`	`that is, packaging sucks and building from cvs rules...`
`00:44.46`	`mog_work`	`svn msw.... ^_^`
`00:44.54`	`msw`	`right right, svn`
`00:44.58`	`mog_work`	`keep with the times`
`00:45.00`	`mog_work`	`^_^`
`00:45.02`	`msw`	`I'm with you man`
`00:45.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`many : I just reinstall * dozens of times trouble free and I'm a linux newb...`
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`00:45.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And I run Slackware and STILL it all just seems easy!`
`00:45.26`	`many`	`wow!`
`00:45.48`	`msw`	`[TK]D-Fender: you've discredited yourself`
`00:45.50`	`many`	`who told you slack was difficult?`
`00:45.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`So packagin this one last thing? nah.`
`00:46.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`general opinion... not mine :)`
`00:46.27`	`many`	`i used slack back then when your only option to install was from 30 or so floppies.`
`00:46.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I cam from a heavy DOS background so I felt at home :) And it comes with MC by default :)`
`00:46.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`heh`
`00:46.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Reminds me of Win95's 25 floppies :)`
`00:47.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`or 3.11's 6`
`00:47.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:47.09`	`many`	`this was pre 95`
`00:47.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`or...`
`00:47.18`	`many`	`92 or 93 or so.`
`00:47.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I've been there for CP/M and before...`
`00:47.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`<- OLD`
`00:47.41`	`benjk`	`Floppies?`
`00:47.50`	`benjk`	`TK50 cartridges`
`00:47.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`CASSETTE <-`
`00:47.57`	`many`	`lochkarten`
`00:48.10`	`benjk`	`VMS came on a single TK50 cartridge`
`00:48.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`VMS... now THERE'S an OS....`
`00:48.34`	`benjk`	`the cartridge had a capacity of 95MB`
`00:48.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`thats like... HUGE`
`00:48.57`	`many`	`so whatever. slack isnt difficult. if youre getting money for administering stuff you will however most certainly rely on sensible package management.`
`00:48.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I remember the first HD I bought... 20 mb MFM....`
`00:50.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`many : Actually I use just a handful of common packages (TGZ's) and the rest from source. PV did good by use by always providing a solid DEV base to start from which is why I've never had a problem compiling anything...`
`00:50.49`	`enota`	`patrik the best`
`00:51.16`	`enota`	`but mfm sux ;)`
`00:51.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`This last run I did PostgreSQL, OpenOffice, K3B, Firefox from TGZ's, and Swaret, *, WanPipe (for my ADSL card), HEYU2 (X10 reote stuff), and NVIDIA driver from source`
`00:52.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MFM was the shiznit! (then)`
`00:52.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`then I got a 30mb RLL (MFM w/ h/w compression) claiming 60 meg... and slowly worked my way up...`
`00:53.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`On my work server I did the AMP ot LAMP from source but just recently found how complete even a default Slack install is and that I don't need Apache 2.0 so much...`
`00:54.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`1.x seems fine and less trouble to set up PHP on now (I removed 1 character preventing the module load)`
`00:54.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`and wham, instant gratification...`
`00:54.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Although I really need to learn much more of the basics. Without MC or X I'm nearly crippled.....`
`00:55.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`actually... its jsut missing a console text editor that nails me...`
`00:57.09`	`bziherl`	`is there a way to terminate a channel, even if client didn't send the BYE statement (let's say that the client softphone crashed before properly ending converastion?)`
`00:57.41`	`mog_work`	`lol`
`00:57.43`	`mog_work`	`get`
`00:57.45`	`mog_work`	`~thebook`
`00:57.47`	`jbot`	`somebody said thebook was Asterisk: The Future of Telephony, released under the Creative Commons license and available at http://www.asteriskdocs.org << Read the book online!`
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`00:58.21`	`enota`	`:)`
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`01:02.36`	`rajiv`	`if i run 'asterisk -r -ddddddddddddd' am i supposed to get debug messages?`
`01:03.00`	`dudes`	`try -rvvvvvv`
`01:03.05`	`kuku5`	`after I create a queue and add agents..does an agent need to "login" somewhere?`
`01:03.20`	`rajiv`	`i dont want verbose. i want debug. like the debug messages shown here http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5704`
`01:03.36`	`dudes`	`then set it in logger.conf and logger rotate`
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`01:04.21`	`kuku5`	`[TK]D-Fender: What do I do with the agents`
`01:04.41`	`dudes`	`tell them to go home`
`01:05.06`	`dudes`	`or check the wiki voip-info.org`
`01:05.15`	`slayer192`	`what family configures meetme conferences in extconfig.conf?`
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`01:06.09`	`dudes`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+agents`
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`01:11.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kuku5 : depends how you want to work your agents.`
`01:12.13`	`trixter`	`work em to death`
`01:12.22`	`trixter`	`agents dont need breaks, they dont need sleep`
`01:12.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kuku5 : you can hard-code them like "member => SIP/100" in queues.cong, or like "member => Agent/1000" and define the agent's login pass and name in agents.conf`
`01:12.32`	`trixter`	`dont ever let em get up from their desks`
`01:12.35`	`alephcom`	`Yeah, no kidding!! That makes the customer experience more acceptable.`
`01:13.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`big help the lot of you are!`
`01:14.16`	`trixter`	`:D`
`01:14.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Agents work through the AgentCallbacklogin method which has its ups & downs... less direct but allow you to do interesting things before it actually dials the agent.`
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`01:21.04`	`trixter`	`does anyone else have problems right now connection to berlios.de?`
`01:21.37`	`rajiv`	`looking at asterisk-1.0.9/apps/app_voicemail.c it seems that if i do voicemail(u200&u201) then both users should get the message`
`01:21.44`	`rajiv`	`yet that is not happening`
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`01:24.03`	`brookshire`	`rajiv: update?`
`01:25.08`	`file`	`Mattttttttt`
`01:25.16`	`brookshire`	`ile!`
`01:25.28`	`rajiv`	`i'd like to but cannot yet`
`01:25.30`	`file`	`meep!`
`01:26.01`	`brookshire`	`haha.. my '' key won't work ile`
`01:26.14`	`file`	`lol that's sad`
`01:26.18`	`brookshire`	`i know right`
`01:26.44`	`brookshire`	`maybe my keyboard isn't plugged in`
`01:26.47`	`brookshire`	`right`
`01:26.58`	`AgiNamu`	`maybe its wireless`
`01:27.03`	`file`	`maybe it's a sign`
`01:27.10`	`brookshire`	`nope.. still won't work`
`01:27.44`	`file`	`fine - call me Josh :P`
`01:27.46`	`AgiNamu`	`and alt+102 ? :)`
`01:27.53`	`AgiNamu`	`wel however you do that in linux`
`01:28.04`	`brookshire`	`OH WOW`
`01:28.14`	`brookshire`	`it's not my keyboard`
`01:28.19`	`brookshire`	`it's linux!`
`01:28.24`	`file`	`lol`
`01:28.36`	`drumkilla`	`you got h4x0red!`
`01:28.40`	`drumkilla`	`you got the 'f' virus!`
`01:28.42`	`brookshire`	`lol`
`01:29.17`	`brookshire`	`stupid gentoo`
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`01:38.40`	`Seba_soy`	`somebody have success with L option on DIAL?`
`01:38.58`	`alephcom`	`yes`
`01:39.09`	`Seba_soy`	`strange what happens to me`
`01:39.12`	`pygrammer`	`do you even need ztdummy with kernel 2.6 for music on hold?`
`01:39.55`	`m160858`	`bye guys`
`01:39.56`	`pygrammer`	`it's a 4-year-old P4 1.6, so i assume it has some other timing device...`
`01:39.59`	`m160858`	`and girls`
`01:40.00`	`Seba_soy`	`when I set 120000 MS to end call, and I put a message 31000 MS before call ends, calls end correct, but instead 120 secs for callduration I got 121 secs :(`
`01:40.02`	`m160858`	`sorry`
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`01:40.05`	`brookshire`	`file!`
`01:40.09`	`brookshire`	`it was e17`
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`01:40.19`	`alephcom`	`I'm not sure on that...`
`01:40.22`	`Seba_soy`	`some clue?`
`01:40.43`	`file`	`brookshire: !!!`
`01:40.48`	`Seba_soy`	`it does my callingcard put negative money !!!`
`01:40.56`	`alephcom`	`Ugh.`
`01:41.07`	`alephcom`	`I'm not sure. I've not watched it that close`
`01:41.28`	`Seba_soy`	`mmm can I user S and L optiones together?`
`01:41.32`	`Seba_soy`	`use`
`01:47.18`	`pygrammer`	`so, do you even need ztdummy with kernel 2.6 for music on hold?`
`01:47.49`	`syle`	`you need it for alot more than music on hold`
`01:48.16`	`pygrammer`	`well, how would I compile it? i got the zaptel-source debian package, with ztdummy.c/ztdummy.h`
`01:48.22`	`pygrammer`	`but there's no readme`
`01:48.40`	`syle`	`huh`
`01:48.48`	`pygrammer`	`huh what?`
`01:48.50`	`syle`	`download the zaptel source, their are readme's`
`01:48.57`	`pygrammer`	`i got the debian package`
`01:49.05`	`syle`	`and?`
`01:49.08`	`asterboy`	`the readme sucks anyway`
`01:49.16`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: ok, well how would i compile it?`
`01:49.21`	`pygrammer`	`there's no make or configure or anything`
`01:49.27`	`pygrammer`	`just source files`
`01:49.30`	`asterboy`	`did you just try make in the directory?`
`01:49.51`	`drumkilla`	`you type 'make'.`
`01:49.56`	`asterboy`	`yes`
`01:49.58`	`pygrammer`	`ui`
`01:49.59`	`drumkilla`	`just like asterisk ... and libpri ...`
`01:49.59`	`pygrammer`	`err`
`01:50.15`	`drumkilla`	`and is documented on asterisk.org ...`
`01:50.24`	`pygrammer`	`make: cc: Command not found`
`01:50.24`	`pygrammer`	`make: *** [gendigits.o] Error 127`
`01:50.30`	`pygrammer`	`i do have gcc`
`01:50.30`	`asterboy`	`lol`
`01:50.34`	`asterboy`	`figures`
`01:50.40`	`pygrammer`	`oh, i might need libc6-dev?`
`01:50.59`	`pygrammer`	`never mind - i forgot this was a fresh install`
`01:51.00`	`asterboy`	`is there more info on that error?`
`01:51.05`	`asterboy`	`oh`
`01:51.08`	`pygrammer`	`of ubuntu`
`01:51.18`	`pygrammer`	`i need to get gcc/libc6dev`
`01:51.24`	`drumkilla`	`apt-get install build-essentials`
`01:51.33`	`pygrammer`	`that works too ::P`
`01:51.34`	`drumkilla`	`i think that's the package you want in ubuntu ...`
`01:51.47`	`pygrammer`	`hmm, that doesn't exist`
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`01:52.00`	`shmaltz`	`anybody here using fop?`
`01:52.01`	`drumkilla`	`build-essential`
`01:52.03`	`drumkilla`	`no 's' at the end`
`01:52.07`	`drumkilla`	`:)`
`01:52.23`	`pygrammer`	`yeah`
`01:52.35`	`pygrammer`	`i had just gotten gcc; the rest is just c++, etc.`
`01:52.56`	`pygrammer`	`make -C SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/zaptel modules`
`01:52.56`	`pygrammer`	`make: *** SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/zaptel: No such file or directory. Stop.`
`01:52.59`	`pygrammer`	`hmm`
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`01:53.11`	`pygrammer`	`I'm too tired to debug these errors -- 4 hours of sleep isn't enough :(`
`01:53.35`	`pygrammer`	`why is it saying no such file or dir? I'm IN that directory`
`01:53.45`	`drumkilla`	`you need you need the kernel headers`
`01:53.52`	`drumkilla`	`d'oh`
`01:54.29`	`pygrammer`	`:X that error didn't imply that :P`
`01:55.36`	`pygrammer`	`um, drumkilla?`
`01:55.45`	`pygrammer`	`getting the kernel headers didn't get rid of that error`
`01:59.19`	`pygrammer`	`drumkilla: please help?`
`01:59.24`	`pygrammer`	`this is very frustrating`
`01:59.28`	`drumkilla`	`pygrammer: one second, jesus`
`01:59.33`	`pygrammer`	`ok`
`01:59.33`	`drumkilla`	`:)`
`01:59.35`	`asterboy`	`do an ls /usr/src/modules/zaptel just to make sure the directory exists...even if your in it.`
`01:59.36`	`pygrammer`	`thought you'd forgotten!`
`01:59.55`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: indeed it exists`
`02:00.02`	`pygrammer`	`i did make clean but there's still shit from the previous make`
`02:00.29`	`asterboy`	`remove and start from scratch with fresh source.`
`02:00.41`	`asterboy`	`that's the best way.`
`02:01.04`	`dokhench`	`the next second, buddha. o how the wheel of religon spins.`
`02:01.18`	`asterboy`	`and war along with it.`
`02:01.45`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: I did what you said just now -- same error`
`02:02.05`	`pygrammer`	`http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=466051`
`02:02.06`	`pygrammer`	`err`
`02:02.07`	`asterboy`	`ok well that at least tells us nothing else from previous is interfering.`
`02:02.14`	`pygrammer`	`robert@jesus:/usr/src/modules/zaptel$ sudo make linux26`
`02:02.15`	`drumkilla`	`pygrammer: you have the kernel-headers package for the kernel you are currently running?`
`02:02.20`	`AgiNamu`	`anyone know what the IRQs are in a dell poweredge? I see my t1 cards on IRQ 225 and 235`
`02:02.23`	`pygrammer`	`drumkilla: 2.6.12, yes`
`02:02.26`	`drumkilla`	`linux-headers, i think it's called ....`
`02:02.48`	`pygrammer`	`well, if the version after the dash - is different, would that matter?`
`02:02.59`	`drumkilla`	`probably, yes`
`02:03.02`	`pygrammer`	`I have 2.6.12-9; the ones I got are 2.6.12-10`
`02:03.14`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer: do a pastebin of that error`
`02:04.06`	`AgiNamu`	`is Hyperthreading good for asterisk with PRI?`
`02:04.13`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: will do`
`02:05.00`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: http://pastebin.com/445685`
`02:05.21`	`pygrammer`	`perhaps it's because I already installed package "zaptel`
`02:05.27`	`pygrammer`	`but the error isn't very descriptive`
`02:05.32`	`pygrammer`	`and it's just make -- not make install`
`02:07.00`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer: you just typed "make" right?`
`02:07.20`	`pygrammer`	`sudo make -- I'm not root`
`02:07.23`	`pygrammer`	`should I su?`
`02:07.31`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer: yes`
`02:07.41`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer: its most likely a permissions problem.`
`02:07.57`	`pygrammer`	`nope, I su'ed -- still no`
`02:08.00`	`dokhench`	`pygrammer: out of curiosity, any spaces or funky chars in the path?`
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`02:08.34`	`pygrammer`	`dokhench: nope, it's a default Ubuntu install -- but lemme check`
`02:08.42`	`pygrammer`	`declare -x PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11"`
`02:08.56`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer: what happens when you type "make -C SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/zaptel modules"`
`02:09.19`	`pygrammer`	`make: *** SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/zaptel: No such file or directory. Stop.`
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`02:09.43`	`pygrammer`	`quite curious...`
`02:10.09`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer: that command is wrong`
`02:10.21`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: what is?`
`02:10.28`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer: make -C /usr/src/modules/zaptel modules would be correct`
`02:10.50`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer: it thinks SUBDIRS=blah blah is the directory, which is correct in reporting that it indeed does not exist.`
`02:10.56`	`pygrammer`	`make: *** SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/zaptel: No such file or directory. Stop.`
`02:11.14`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer: try make -C /usr/src/modules/zaptel`
`02:11.36`	`pygrammer`	`make: *** SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/zaptel: No such file or directory. Stop.`
`02:11.36`	`pygrammer`	`make: Entering an unknown directorymake: Leaving an unknown directorymake: *** [linux26] Error 2`
`02:11.43`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer: interesting.`
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`02:11.51`	`pygrammer`	`should i symlink /usr/src/linux?`
`02:11.52`	`pygrammer`	`i didn't do that`
`02:12.01`	`newmember`	`What files do I have to install to get SugarCRm to talk to *1.2?`
`02:12.01`	`asterboy`	`try it`
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`02:12.32`	`asterboy`	`are you certain you are root?`
`02:12.39`	`pygrammer`	`root@jesus:/usr/src/modules/zaptel#`
`02:12.42`	`pygrammer`	`I su'ed`
`02:12.51`	`pygrammer`	`I created a symlink -- still doesn't work`
`02:12.51`	`asterboy`	`what permissions are on zaptel?`
`02:13.09`	`pygrammer`	`drwxr-xr-x`
`02:14.18`	`asterboy`	`Lets try a different approach.`
`02:14.28`	`pygrammer`	`surre`
`02:14.31`	`pygrammer`	`*sure`
`02:14.33`	`asterboy`	`Get the sources for zaptel from asterisk.org`
`02:14.38`	`asterboy`	`make a new directory`
`02:14.41`	`asterboy`	`unpack`
`02:14.45`	`pygrammer`	`ok`
`02:14.52`	`asterboy`	`try the build in that instead.`
`02:15.00`	`asterboy`	`soemthing is fishy with the other.`
`02:15.14`	`pygrammer`	`ok`
`02:15.15`	`asterboy`	`not sure what without being on the system.`
`02:15.25`	`pygrammer`	`for Asterisk 1.0.9, should I use the older version of zaptel, or is the newest one fine?`
`02:16.07`	`AgiNamu`	`hm....217: 0 109643 IO-APIC-level eth1`
`02:16.10`	`AgiNamu`	`er..`
`02:16.11`	`AgiNamu`	`sorry`
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`02:21.23`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: I got the archive, but now it's telling me I don't have the kernel source installed`
`02:21.52`	`pygrammer`	`You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.12-9-386 kernel installed.`
`02:22.00`	`pygrammer`	`but I made the symlink as directed in README.26`
`02:22.01`	`pygrammer`	`2.6`
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`02:22.34`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: sorry, didn't notice you had left`
`02:22.43`	`pygrammer`	`i'll paste what i said`
`02:22.45`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: I got the archive, but now it's telling me I don't have the kernel source installed`
`02:22.45`	`asterboy`	`ok`
`02:22.50`	`pygrammer`	`You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.12-9-386 kernel installed.`
`02:22.55`	`pygrammer`	`but I made the symlink as directed in README.Linux26`
`02:23.10`	`asterboy`	`which is ok...you need to make sure you make the proper sym links if you do have it.`
`02:23.20`	`pygrammer`	`i mean, i just need the headers, right?`
`02:23.32`	`asterboy`	`I did mine with full source.`
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`02:23.54`	`pygrammer`	`I didn't understand this part: To build for Linux 2.6, first you must be sure that you have a`
`02:23.54`	`pygrammer`	`symlink to your linux-2.6 sources in /usr/src/linux-2.6. The 2.6`
`02:23.54`	`pygrammer`	`kernel no longer needs the full sourcecode to build against it.`
`02:24.10`	`pygrammer`	`that is sort of contradictory...?`
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`02:24.28`	`pygrammer`	`and I didn't understand this: You`
`02:24.28`	`pygrammer`	can create the symlink to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ and then
`02:24.28`	`pygrammer`	`you can type:`
`02:24.29`	`asterboy`	`just ignore it an use full source anyway.`
`02:24.53`	`asterboy`	`ya I remeber having to make mine to match my system.`
`02:25.44`	`pygrammer`	`ok`
`02:25.48`	`pygrammer`	`does it matter what version of gcc I have?`
`02:25.59`	`asterboy`	`it might`
`02:26.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`* frowns on 1.0 ;)`
`02:26.13`	`asterboy`	`I did mine with 3.4.3`
`02:26.14`	`pygrammer`	`heh`
`02:26.16`	`pygrammer`	`I think I have 4`
`02:26.30`	`asterboy`	`thats pretty new.`
`02:26.35`	`asterboy`	`try it.`
`02:26.41`	`pygrammer`	`sigh`
`02:26.48`	`pygrammer`	`this wasn't such a pain previously ... dunno what's changed`
`02:28.06`	`rbd`	`has anyone tried to run asterisk on vmware ...I'm running it on vmware esx with an attached sip phone and am getting _a lot_ of choppyness/packet loss (and it's not my connection)`
`02:28.32`	`asterboy`	`oh, I should ask if you are using udev?`
`02:28.44`	`pygrammer`	`yes?`
`02:28.52`	`asterboy`	`huh`
`02:28.55`	`_DAW`	`rbd - I run * on vmware frequently with no problems`
`02:29.00`	`asterboy`	`are you asking me yes?`
`02:29.05`	`pygrammer`	`no, I am`
`02:29.10`	`pygrammer`	`I'm using udev`
`02:29.36`	`rbd`	`_DAW: hmm... that's good news.... I don't think it's a resource issue (CPU usage remains very low...this is a dual xeon...and only one call...some codec issue then...)`
`02:29.48`	`asterboy`	`ok, make sure you read the README.udev`
`02:30.01`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: ok`
`02:30.10`	`pygrammer`	`damn, kernel takes forever to unzip :/`
`02:31.59`	`asterboy`	`while waiting...goto http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Zaptel+Installation`
`02:32.04`	`pygrammer`	`I finished :)`
`02:32.08`	`pygrammer`	`been there many times`
`02:32.19`	`asterboy`	`pay particular attention to the sym link part just a little down the page.`
`02:32.25`	`pygrammer`	`it's for 2.4`
`02:32.26`	`pygrammer`	`ok`
`02:33.18`	`asterboy`	`For a Linux 2.6 kernel you may need to:`
`02:33.18`	`asterboy`	`modify the EXTRAVERSION statement in Makefile so it matches what you see in: cat /proc/version`
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`02:33.49`	`pygrammer`	`ok`
`02:34.01`	`asterboy`	`just before the Download section`
`02:34.04`	`pygrammer`	`I got gcc 3.4 just incase`
`02:34.06`	`pygrammer`	`in case*`
`02:34.11`	`asterboy`	`no prob`
`02:34.34`	`Druken`	`evening everyone`
`02:35.08`	`asterboy`	`now when your ready you need to type "make linux26"`
`02:35.19`	`pygrammer`	`uh asterboy EXTRAVERSION doesn't exist in the makefile :/`
`02:35.49`	`pygrammer`	`pardon my language, but fuck`
`02:36.07`	`pygrammer`	`i installed the sources, made a symlink at /usr/src/linux-2.6`
`02:36.50`	`asterboy`	`no thats for another makefile.`
`02:37.04`	`asterboy`	`lets just try the make linux26`
`02:37.19`	`dokhench`	`pygrammer: while at it might as well enable echo_Can_mg2 :)`
`02:37.54`	`asterboy`	`yum`
`02:38.31`	`pygrammer`	`dokhench: what is that?`
`02:38.35`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: I tried make linux26 -- same error`
`02:38.40`	`pygrammer`	`that's what I've been trying`
`02:39.04`	`asterboy`	`sym link?`
`02:39.07`	`Druken`	`did you try a simple make?`
`02:39.17`	`pygrammer`	`/usr/src/linux-2.6 -> /usr/src/linux-2.6...etc`
`02:39.31`	`pygrammer`	`as is stated in the readme`
`02:39.43`	`pygrammer`	`should I follow the instructions on http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Zaptel+Installation`
`02:39.51`	`pygrammer`	`and make all those modules, etc.`
`02:40.10`	`asterboy`	`make another sym link with just "linux" if it does not already exist.`
`02:40.27`	`asterboy`	`AND...more importantly...the uname -r version`
`02:40.37`	`asterboy`	`what does uname -r give you?`
`02:41.03`	`asterboy`	`2.6...something.`
`02:41.13`	`dokhench`	`\ /* MG2 is a version of KB1 that has some changes to it that are * supposed to improve how it performs. If you have echo problems, * try it out! */`
`02:41.39`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: made the symlink`
`02:42.02`	`pygrammer`	`2.6.12-9-386`
`02:42.11`	`pygrammer`	`those are the sources I got -- 2.6.12`
`02:43.07`	`pygrammer`	`well, it seems to be working now :)`
`02:43.13`	`pygrammer`	`at least it got past that original error`
`02:43.22`	`asterboy`	`good...so the sources thing is done.`
`02:43.28`	`pygrammer`	`yeah`
`02:43.39`	`pygrammer`	`yay, done`
`02:43.42`	`asterboy`	`I had to fumble with mine also...the instructions are not so clear there.`
`02:43.42`	`pygrammer`	`now make install, right?`
`02:43.46`	`pygrammer`	`yeah :P`
`02:43.51`	`asterboy`	`yep`
`02:44.29`	`pygrammer`	`do I have to do the udev thing? I don't recall doing it last time, even with 2.6`
`02:44.30`	`asterboy`	`Please tell me you don't need zttool`
`02:44.39`	`pygrammer`	`what is that?`
`02:44.45`	`pygrammer`	`don't think you do -- I think I read about it`
`02:44.49`	`mog_work`	`you dont`
`02:44.50`	`asterboy`	`yes you should or it won't recognize on startup.`
`02:44.53`	`mog_work`	`its for debugging`
`02:45.06`	`dokhench`	`ztcfg you'll need.`
`02:45.13`	`pygrammer`	`where do I get that?`
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`02:45.29`	`asterboy`	`ztfg will be installed via make install`
`02:45.33`	`pygrammer`	`ok`
`02:45.34`	`pygrammer`	`did that`
`02:45.51`	`asterboy`	`ok...do the README.udev thing`
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`02:46.09`	`asterboy`	`if all goes well your on your way.`
`02:46.15`	`Kort`	`is it normal to be offered a PRI line with E&M signaling?`
`02:46.38`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: I did it -- now can I modprobe?`
`02:47.32`	`asterboy`	`should be able to...worse case reboot will take care of it.`
`02:47.55`	`pygrammer`	`FATAL: Module ztdummy not found.`
`02:47.56`	`pygrammer`	`FATAL: Error running install command for ztdummy`
`02:47.59`	`asterboy`	`reboot`
`02:47.59`	`Kort`	`I thought PRI lines had different signalling than E&M`
`02:48.02`	`asterboy`	`its a udev thing`
`02:48.19`	`asterboy`	`udev need to create the files in /dev`
`02:48.43`	`pygrammer`	`ok`
`02:49.29`	`pygrammer`	`damn, I hate rebooting that server -- its network initialization is messed up -- gotta fix that`
`02:50.48`	`asterboy`	`while your at it, if you want zaptel to load on reboot, you need to do a make config in your zaptel source dir.`
`02:51.03`	`pygrammer`	`done`
`02:51.05`	`pygrammer`	`;)`
`02:52.43`	`asterboy`	`I just added a digium clone card to my setup...so we can do the next step together:`
`02:52.45`	`asterboy`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+config+zaptel.conf`
`02:52.54`	`pygrammer`	`heh, cool`
`02:52.59`	`pygrammer`	`gotta reboot, hold on`
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`02:53.06`	`pygrammer`	`i'm just trying to see if i can fix the network config on the box`
`02:53.10`	`pygrammer`	`because there are two NICs`
`02:53.14`	`dialogic_sux`	`hello all`
`02:53.15`	`pygrammer`	`one wireless, one wired`
`02:53.24`	`pygrammer`	`and evidently when Ubuntu installed, it didn't configure them right`
`02:53.34`	`pygrammer`	`so "lo" (loopback) isn't even correctly initialized`
`02:53.37`	`dialogic_sux`	`i have huge huge issues / questions with using Intel Dialogic D/41JCT-LS for making an Asterisk system`
`02:53.42`	`pygrammer`	`it's mapped to like nothing ... it doesn't know what it is :P`
`02:53.43`	`dialogic_sux`	`Does ANYONE have any suggestions?`
`02:53.50`	`pygrammer`	`and eth1 isn't properly up`
`02:54.46`	`asterboy`	`I manually config mine at startup with ifconfig`
`02:54.55`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: yeah, but I don't have a KVM :/`
`02:55.09`	`pygrammer`	`and since they're not config'ed, I can't even SSH in and fix 'em :P`
`02:55.12`	`pygrammer`	`so it's a pain`
`02:55.12`	`dialogic_sux`	`Come on Digium guys, give a fellow techie a hand`
`02:55.22`	`mog_work`	`whats up`
`02:55.27`	`harryvv`	`digium charges for there services`
`02:55.33`	`mog_work`	`bah`
`02:55.36`	`mog_work`	`i give it away for freee`
`02:55.40`	`dialogic_sux`	`o wow`
`02:55.41`	`dialogic_sux`	`excellent`
`02:55.48`	`mog_work`	`what do you need`
`02:55.50`	`dialogic_sux`	`i was going to offer $10 for help but I guess i dont need to :D`
`02:55.53`	`dialogic_sux`	`thanks a lot`
`02:55.56`	`dialogic_sux`	`ok here's the story`
`02:55.59`	`pygrammer`	`I want so simply disable my wireless card...`
`02:56.00`	`pygrammer`	`hmm`
`02:56.04`	`dialogic_sux`	`we bought a Dialogic card for arond $800`
`02:56.09`	`dialogic_sux`	`to set up an asterisk box`
`02:56.13`	`dialogic_sux`	`for students to use at our university`
`02:56.14`	`mog_work`	`k`
`02:56.19`	`Kort`	`hey if they are asking to specify "Hunting" on a PRI line, what does it mean and what is a good choice?`
`02:56.21`	`dialogic_sux`	`and for a course we were going to teach on making phone based apps`
`02:56.34`	`dialogic_sux`	`however, we didnt get any drivers with the card`
`02:56.38`	`harryvv`	`does this channel record domain names?`
`02:56.44`	`harryvv`	`log them`
`02:56.44`	`mog_work`	`yeah`
`02:56.44`	`dialogic_sux`	`we tried installing asterisk on linux and were successful`
`02:56.45`	`pygrammer`	`well, I disabled prism54 from loading :P`
`02:56.47`	`pygrammer`	`so let's see`
`02:56.48`	`mog_work`	`yeah`
`02:56.48`	`dialogic_sux`	`however we have no way of knowing`
`02:56.55`	`dialogic_sux`	`because we dont have drivers for the dialogic card`
`02:57.00`	`harryvv`	`okay need to go back 3-5 days`
`02:57.03`	`dialogic_sux`	`and there seems to be no way to get drivers for the dialogic card online`
`02:57.08`	`mog_work`	`yeah`
`02:57.13`	`mog_work`	`they are propritary`
`02:57.13`	`harryvv`	`find a domain that was displayed here`
`02:57.18`	`dialogic_sux`	`the intel site is impossible -- it tells us to get service level agreements with intel but doesnt tell us HOW to`
`02:57.22`	`mog_work`	`you can email sales@digium.com about getting them`
`02:57.32`	`mog_work`	`the newer dialogic cards will probalby have drivers for be soon`
`02:57.36`	`*** join/#asterisk Dr-Linux (n=Nothing@202.125.141.6)`
`02:57.38`	`mog_work`	`and then regular asterisk`
`02:57.46`	`dialogic_sux`	`and the nearest vendors for intel dont have any information on how to do this`
`02:57.46`	`mog_work`	`which card do you have dialogic_sux`
`02:57.55`	`dialogic_sux`	`we have a D/41JCT-LS`
`02:58.46`	`dialogic_sux`	`so what are our options?`
`02:58.50`	`mog_work`	`you mean D/41JCT-LS-4?`
`02:58.54`	`dialogic_sux`	`yes yes`
`02:58.56`	`benjk`	`dialogic: a friend of mine tried to get that card working with Asterisk, never succeeded`
`02:58.57`	`dialogic_sux`	`the 4 port one`
`02:58.58`	`mog_work`	`yeah`
`02:59.08`	`benjk`	`it worked fine with Bayonne though`
`02:59.09`	`mog_work`	`email sales@digium.com about aquiring drivers`
`02:59.09`	`Kort`	`dialogic I've had good luck with Sangoma so far.`
`02:59.10`	`dialogic_sux`	`benjk: thanks... it seems our fate will be similar`
`02:59.18`	`dialogic_sux`	`ok we're doing that right now (emailing sales@digium)`
`02:59.21`	`benjk`	`you can use Bayonne`
`02:59.35`	`mog_work`	`you should have gotten sangoma or digium card in future`
`02:59.39`	`benjk`	`GNU Telephony Project`
`02:59.56`	`dialogic_sux`	`yeah we didn't realize that`
`02:59.59`	`dialogic_sux`	`how much do you think:`
`03:00.02`	`mog_work`	`benjk no offense, but someone looking for asterisk bayonne is not comparable`
`03:00.06`	`dialogic_sux`	`a) dialogic drivers from digium are?`
`03:00.15`	`dialogic_sux`	`b) digium cards and digium drivers cost?`
`03:00.24`	`benjk`	`sure I prefer Asterisk too, but that card works with Bayonne`
`03:00.25`	`Kort`	`do all T1 cards support NI2?`
`03:00.25`	`mog_work`	`digium drivers are free and oss`
`03:00.32`	`dialogic_sux`	`mog_work thanks for your help btw, i really appreciate it`
`03:00.39`	`dialogic_sux`	`wow thats awesome`
`03:00.44`	`benjk`	`so its either a different card or a different software`
`03:00.50`	`mog_work`	`cards range from 100-2500 depending on what you get`
`03:01.02`	`dialogic_sux`	`what do you get for $100? :)`
`03:01.06`	`dialogic_sux`	`just kidding`
`03:01.22`	`dokhench`	`an fxo or fxs port.`
`03:01.23`	`mog_work`	`single port fxs card that is hardware upgradable to 4`
`03:01.26`	`dialogic_sux`	`hmmm so any idea what the intel drivers will cost?`
`03:01.28`	`mog_work`	`or fxo`
`03:01.31`	`benjk`	`a blank analog card with no modules :-)`
`03:01.32`	`mog_work`	`im not sure`
`03:01.43`	`dialogic_sux`	`ok`
`03:01.45`	`mog_work`	`you can also get an x100p from ebay for 10 bucks`
`03:02.02`	`*** join/#asterisk brettnem (n=brettnem@72.29.102.158)`
`03:02.12`	`robl^`	`hrmmm.. how can a Fed Ex ground delivery of some phones go from MN to TX but be in Washington state???`
`03:02.19`	`dialogic_sux`	`how come everyone in industry uses dialogic`
`03:02.30`	`mog_work`	`the ocean robl^`
`03:02.35`	`mog_work`	`they installed it tuesday`
`03:02.36`	`dialogic_sux`	`wow yeah there's an x100p for $10!`
`03:02.37`	`benjk`	`how come everyone uses Windows?`
`03:02.46`	`mog_work`	`dialogic was first`
`03:02.50`	`dialogic_sux`	`aaah ok i get it`
`03:02.51`	`mog_work`	`well not first`
`03:02.56`	`mog_work`	`but been around forever`
`03:02.57`	`dialogic_sux`	`ok so whats the deal with the x100p?`
`03:03.02`	`mog_work`	`its a win modem`
`03:03.03`	`brettnem`	`robl^: are you in tx?`
`03:03.04`	`robl^`	`how come everything comes with fries instead of onion rings?`
`03:03.07`	`benjk`	`its just a modem`
`03:03.11`	`mog_work`	`that has a driver for zaptel`
`03:03.16`	`mog_work`	`because fries are better`
`03:03.23`	`robl^`	`brettnwm: yeah.. My phones are in WA though :)`
`03:03.24`	`dialogic_sux`	`hahahahaha fries are better`
`03:03.35`	`benjk`	`soft modem made to function as a single port analog i/f with a replacement driver`
`03:03.39`	`brettnem`	`robl^: where in tx are you? I'm in Austin`
`03:03.44`	`mog_work`	`but not evreyone uses dialogic`
`03:03.46`	`dialogic_sux`	`how does x100p help us?`
`03:03.54`	`mog_work`	`its a one port analog connection to the world`
`03:03.58`	`mog_work`	`what do you want to do`
`03:04.04`	`robl^`	`brettnem: I am in the REALLY big city to the south :)`
`03:04.09`	`dialogic_sux`	`we need echo cancellation above all else`
`03:04.12`	`benjk`	`x100p is only for private use though`
`03:04.14`	`dialogic_sux`	`so that we can do speech recognition`
`03:04.17`	`brettnem`	`robl^: Kyle?`
`03:04.23`	`benjk`	`not recommended for business use`
`03:04.33`	`mog_work`	`that is in software`
`03:04.35`	`robl^`	`brettnem: BIG.. Begins with "H"`
`03:04.35`	`mog_work`	`both are`
`03:04.39`	`mog_work`	`not a big issue`
`03:04.43`	`dialogic_sux`	`really`
`03:04.44`	`dokhench`	`dialogic_sux: why use analog at all? just install some softphones, asterisk, and start coding awayy.`
`03:04.49`	`brettnem`	`robl^: oh, you mean to the east?`
`03:04.52`	`brettnem`	`;)`
`03:04.53`	`dialogic_sux`	`then why dont we just use standard modems?`
`03:04.57`	`dialogic_sux`	`if its all in software?`
`03:05.08`	`mog_work`	`modem cant speak t1`
`03:05.09`	`brettnem`	`robl^: where in Houston are you?`
`03:05.17`	`mog_work`	`you probably shouldnt have bought a dialogic card`
`03:05.25`	`brettnem`	`dialogic_sux: modems should work fine.. but that's one fxo port.. that's dinky`
`03:05.32`	`dialogic_sux`	`whats an fxo port?`
`03:05.35`	`mog_work`	`you probably just want a tdm11b or a x100p to begin with`
`03:05.38`	`dialogic_sux`	`we dont have t1s coming in yet`
`03:05.42`	`mog_work`	`something that connect to tellephone network`
`03:05.48`	`mog_work`	`fxs connects to a handset`
`03:05.49`	`file[laptop]`	`mog_work: Mattttttt`
`03:05.50`	`dialogic_sux`	`we just have pots coming in`
`03:05.51`	`benjk`	`fxo connects to an analog line`
`03:05.52`	`robl^`	`brettnem: I am on the far west side of the city...`
`03:05.52`	`brettnem`	`dialogic_sux: fxo is the kind of port that you plug a phone line to`
`03:06.00`	`dialogic_sux`	`oh ok`
`03:06.01`	`brettnem`	`robl^: Katy?`
`03:06.03`	`dialogic_sux`	`fxo = pots i get it`
`03:06.04`	`dokhench`	`dialogic_sux: fxo recieves a telco line, fxs creates a telco line.`
`03:06.45`	`brettnem`	`dialogic_sux: it's a form of POTs`
`03:06.45`	`dialogic_sux`	`ok..gotcha`
`03:06.45`	`robl^`	`brettnem: no.. I in Houston.. within city limits.. not far from Katy though`
`03:06.49`	`*** join/#asterisk tengulre (n=tengulre@61.185.224.66)`
`03:06.51`	`tengulre`	`hi,all`
`03:06.56`	`benjk`	`x100p modems are ok for a pbx to run at home`
`03:07.02`	`mog_work`	`man 800 bucks for 4 pots`
`03:07.03`	`dialogic_sux`	`so what does a dialogic / digium card have that x100ps don't have?`
`03:07.06`	`brettnem`	`robl^: Hmm, well I grew up in memorial.. which is about as west as you get before going to katy.. where abouts are ya?`
`03:07.08`	`mog_work`	`and people say we are expensive`
`03:07.17`	`dialogic_sux`	`hahaha yes i totally agree`
`03:07.25`	`mog_work`	`x100p isnt as reliable as digium tdm card`
`03:07.29`	`mog_work`	`density mostly`
`03:07.30`	`brettnem`	`dialogic_sux: a API that doesn't totally blow`
`03:07.31`	`tengulre`	`where have dialogic card driver for asterisk?`
`03:07.44`	`dialogic_sux`	`tengulre: JOIN THE CLUB!`
`03:07.49`	`dialogic_sux`	`tengulre: GET IN LINE!`
`03:07.50`	`mog_work`	`when do you touch zaptel`
`03:07.51`	`dialogic_sux`	`hahahaha :)`
`03:07.54`	`mog_work`	`use asterisk api`
`03:07.57`	`robl^`	`brettnem: near the west side of Beltway 8`
`03:08.27`	`brettnem`	`robl^: I lived in those georgetown townhomes for some time.. just west of the beltway`
`03:08.40`	`brettnem`	`robl^: so what do you do in Houston?`
`03:08.46`	`mog_work`	`star cross chatters on irc`
`03:08.55`	`robl^`	`LOL!`
`03:09.02`	`dialogic_sux`	`mog_work: if we get the x100p, can we get it do echo cancellation in an asterisk-running machine as well as a more expensive board?`
`03:09.13`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy`
`03:09.17`	`mog_work`	`asterisk can reliably do about 128 taps of echo can`
`03:09.24`	`mog_work`	`as well as 800 ms of echo training`
`03:09.25`	`pygrammer`	`i think i might have put the lines in the wrong udev file :/`
`03:09.36`	`brettnem`	`SANGOMA`
`03:09.40`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: how do you know which ones to put them in?`
`03:09.41`	`mog_work`	`it has 5 very good different echo cancelling solutions`
`03:09.46`	`mog_work`	`umm brettnem wtf`
`03:09.49`	`dialogic_sux`	`ok, and how does dialogic do it?`
`03:09.52`	`mog_work`	`un provoked and not needed`
`03:09.56`	`robl^`	`I want my Snom 360s!!!`
`03:09.59`	`asterboy`	`back.`
`03:10.15`	`brettnem`	`oh come on.. dialogic boy is asking about digium.. someone should mention Sangoma`
`03:10.15`	`tengulre`	`dialogic_sux: I have a D/4PCI card, but i cannot find drivers for asterisk? anybody can help me?`
`03:10.26`	`mog_work`	`i already did`
`03:10.31`	`mog_work`	`but he needs low density analog`
`03:10.39`	`mog_work`	`sangoma card is still vapor on that front`
`03:10.39`	`brettnem`	`Hey! I have a D/2PCI.. wtf am I going to do with it?!`
`03:10.45`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: how do you know which udev file to put the lines in?`
`03:10.51`	`dialogic_sux`	`how is dialogic much higher density if its just 4 ports on a card?`
`03:10.52`	`pygrammer`	`i rebooted, and modprobe still doesn't find the modules`
`03:11.12`	`brettnem`	`4 T1 ports`
`03:11.12`	`mog_work`	`they have 1/2/4 span t1 cards`
`03:11.15`	`mog_work`	`just like digium`
`03:11.18`	`dialogic_sux`	`tengulre: you need to email sales@digium.com to ask them about drivers`
`03:11.23`	`brettnem`	`which the DTI480 was`
`03:11.30`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: i put them in etc/udev/udev.rules`
`03:11.33`	`brettnem`	`sangoma is vapor?`
`03:11.36`	`pygrammer`	`/etc*`
`03:11.39`	`mog_work`	`they are currently working on a tdm card like digium's tdm4xxp or tdm24xxp but it is vapor ware still`
`03:11.42`	`tengulre`	`dialogic_sux: is it not free?`
`03:11.42`	`brettnem`	`UDEV RULES!`
`03:11.47`	`dialogic_sux`	`mog_work: but if you compare the one we got, which is jus 4 ports analog, thats not very dense right?`
`03:11.52`	`dialogic_sux`	`tengulre: unfortunately, it's not`
`03:11.58`	`brettnem`	`oh yeah.. I think that one is..`
`03:12.04`	`pygrammer`	`but there are other directories and file`
`03:12.06`	`mog_work`	`depends`
`03:12.06`	`pygrammer`	`*files`
`03:12.07`	`brettnem`	`so is digium's DS3 card. ;)`
`03:12.08`	`dialogic_sux`	`tengulre: try contacting intel and digium`
`03:12.14`	`mog_work`	`heh`
`03:12.15`	`asterboy`	`ok...checking`
`03:12.19`	`mog_work`	`ow right to the kisser`
`03:12.24`	`*** join/#asterisk bjohnson (n=bjohnson@i216-58-19-27.cybersurf.com)`
`03:12.25`	`robl^`	`udev rules ONLY if the drivers play nicely with it`
`03:12.29`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: ok`
`03:13.00`	`mog_work`	`only difference i guess is i have seen a ds3000 terminate a call, to my knowledge there isnt a sangoma driver yet for that card`
`03:13.08`	`mog_work`	`^_^`
`03:13.17`	`dialogic_sux`	`ok im doing a buy it now on an x100p`
`03:13.22`	`asterboy`	`the README.udev is pretty good.`
`03:13.24`	`mog_work`	`wise move`
`03:13.28`	`brettnem`	`in time I'm sure`
`03:13.34`	`mog_work`	`you will be able to learn a lot and have fun with it`
`03:13.37`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: ok, so just put it in that file?`
`03:13.43`	`pygrammer`	`why is there another one, /etc/udev/udev.rules`
`03:13.45`	`asterboy`	`it describes the proper directory and there is only 1 udev file`
`03:13.49`	`pygrammer`	`actually there are a lot of them`
`03:13.51`	`pygrammer`	`ok`
`03:13.53`	`asterboy`	`not sure why.`
`03:14.02`	`dialogic_sux`	`ok any suggested documentation you could point me to, mog_work?`
`03:14.22`	`mog_work`	`for what dialogic?`
`03:14.23`	`asterboy`	`do you have /etc/udev/rules.d ??`
`03:14.24`	`mog_work`	`~thebook`
`03:14.25`	`jbot`	`i heard thebook is Asterisk: The Future of Telephony, released under the Creative Commons license and available at http://www.asteriskdocs.org << Read the book online!`
`03:14.27`	`mog_work`	`~docs`
`03:14.28`	`jbot`	`docs is, like, probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com`
`03:14.28`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: yep`
`03:14.31`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: I do`
`03:14.33`	`mog_work`	`those are quality places`
`03:14.33`	`asterboy`	`enter that`
`03:14.45`	`brettnem`	`~wiki`
`03:14.50`	`pygrammer`	`but there were only a few lines in z50 or whatever, whereas in the one i put them in before, there were a lot`
`03:14.50`	`asterboy`	`what do you have in there?`
`03:15.02`	`dialogic_sux`	`we have a yellow asterisk book`
`03:15.14`	`mog_work`	`go read the other book`
`03:15.14`	`asterboy`	`I have 50-udev.rules`
`03:15.15`	`dialogic_sux`	`thanks for telling me about these sites though`
`03:15.17`	`mog_work`	`it is much better`
`03:15.21`	`asterboy`	`you have that?`
`03:15.21`	`dialogic_sux`	`oh great`
`03:15.21`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: yeah -- in rules.d`
`03:15.22`	`dialogic_sux`	`thanks`
`03:15.22`	`brettnem`	`that's a pretty old book actually`
`03:15.31`	`mog_work`	`they have new version brettnem`
`03:15.33`	`asterboy`	`put the lines at the end in there.`
`03:15.35`	`mog_work`	`rev2`
`03:15.42`	`brettnem`	`oh, nice.. paul's book, right?`
`03:15.48`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: well, /etc/udev/rules.d/z50_run.rules`
`03:15.51`	`mog_work`	`yeah`
`03:15.52`	`asterboy`	`remove them from where ever else you put them`
`03:16.03`	`asterboy`	`must be a debian thing.`
`03:16.05`	`dialogic_sux`	`ok great -- i've got to go now but this was very helpful`
`03:16.07`	`dialogic_sux`	`thanks a lot to everyone!`
`03:16.09`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: but I should put them there?`
`03:16.12`	`dialogic_sux`	`especially to mog_work`
`03:16.14`	`asterboy`	`try it`
`03:16.16`	`dialogic_sux`	`you guys are awesome`
`03:16.22`	`mog_work`	`no problem`
`03:16.23`	`dialogic_sux`	`and tengulre: you have my heartiest commiserations`
`03:16.25`	`mog_work`	`we do what we can`
`03:16.27`	`asterboy`	`but remove the other lines from other files.`
`03:16.33`	`brettnem`	`ou haven't seen anything yet.. heh`
`03:16.43`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: yeah`
`03:16.50`	`dokhench`	`~help`
`03:17.03`	`dialogic_sux`	`ok bye for now!`
`03:17.15`	`dialogic_sux`	`thanks again!`
`03:17.25`	`asterboy`	`cya`
`03:17.51`	`harryvv`	`hi asterboy anything new`
`03:18.06`	`asterboy`	`hey harryvv`
`03:18.21`	`asterboy`	`just installing my new digium clone card.`
`03:18.33`	`brettnem`	`attack of the clones!`
`03:18.35`	`asterboy`	`waiting for pygrammer to get modprobe going`
`03:18.42`	`harryvv`	`went to CAAA today to get a car quote and saw all there desk now have 6950s`
`03:18.45`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: hah, thanks -- you've been a great help`
`03:18.53`	`asterboy`	`you got it?`
`03:18.56`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: just trying to make a quick script to fix the network`
`03:18.58`	`pygrammer`	`nope, gotta reboot`
`03:19.02`	`robl^`	`kram's offfice??? shiver did they ever get that dead cow out and the black-velvet Elvis painting out of the office? :)`
`03:19.06`	`pygrammer`	`i have to keep switching the VGA cable to my LCD :P`
`03:19.10`	`pygrammer`	`between this computer and my server`
`03:19.15`	`pygrammer`	`because I don't have a KVM`
`03:19.18`	`asterboy`	`ok, well wait till it works before congrats`
`03:19.23`	`pygrammer`	`heh`
`03:19.48`	`brettnem`	`robl^: what do you do in Houston?`
`03:19.51`	`harryvv`	`I have a oprotunity to buy a used dell power edge 2600 dual xeon wonder how many sessions can be crammed onto that. nice box btw.`
`03:20.08`	`asterboy`	`that will be a great asterisk box`
`03:20.14`	`harryvv`	`minus the xeon and hard drives`
`03:20.40`	`robl^`	`brettnem: currently, I am an assistant IT manager for large law firm's houston office.`
`03:20.44`	`harryvv`	`sitting at some pokey used hardware store in mostly a residential part of a city.`
`03:21.09`	`harryvv`	`bet that pay you well`
`03:21.12`	`harryvv`	`or are thay stingy`
`03:21.14`	`brettnem`	`robl^: ah.. we still have some people working for us there in h-town`
`03:21.20`	`Qwell`	`Dual 3.0ghz Xeons for 15 sccp phones...overkill?`
`03:21.33`	`asterboy`	`harrvy, you in a used hardware store?`
`03:21.38`	`brettnem`	`houston was my first city to be turned up`
`03:21.47`	`tzanger`	`Qwell: nah, give it to me I'll fidn a good use for it`
`03:21.55`	`pygrammer`	`you all are killing me :P`
`03:22.01`	`tzanger`	`bah`
`03:22.02`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: it's rebooting`
`03:22.06`	`tzanger`	`my first home * box was a P90 without MMX`
`03:22.10`	`asterboy`	`;)`
`03:22.10`	`harryvv`	`no, I stopped by the store to see if thay had a used laptop and saw it sitting on the floor. Thay also have a 1 year old dell XPR work station.`
`03:22.11`	`pygrammer`	`haha`
`03:22.12`	`tzanger`	`worked great for 1FXS+1FXO`
`03:22.18`	`pygrammer`	`mine was a 400 w/ 128`
`03:22.23`	`pygrammer`	`but it got fried`
`03:22.25`	`tzanger`	`just don't use ILBC with it :-)`
`03:22.37`	`pygrammer`	`tzanger: i even got Music-on-Hold working :P`
`03:22.39`	`PoWeRKiLL`	`the behavior of forkcdr change in asterisk 1.2 ?`
`03:22.47`	`harryvv`	`wonder how many sip phones that dell power edge can possibly support.`
`03:22.50`	`asterboy`	`I'm using a 433 with 64Mb RAM and 2Gb hd`
`03:22.50`	`pygrammer`	`it was rather slow`
`03:22.55`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: really?`
`03:23.00`	`asterboy`	`Linux From Scratch install`
`03:23.16`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: cool`
`03:23.34`	`pygrammer`	`damn, I wrote a startup script to fix the network cards, but apparently it isn't working`
`03:23.35`	`santiago`	`Hi`
`03:23.40`	`tzanger`	`well a P90 couldn't decode MP3 when it was shit-hot... runnign Asterisk won't make it any easier :-)`
`03:23.54`	`pygrammer`	`sigh I have to switch the monitor again`
`03:23.59`	`asterboy`	`hard to get mp3s on 2Gb after everything is loaded...mind you I have it with Hylafax, phpweb, MYSQL, PHP5 etc.`
`03:24.03`	`pygrammer`	`haha`
`03:24.13`	`pygrammer`	`brb, asterboy - fixing the stupid server`
`03:24.15`	`santiago`	`I need a favor, I'm trying to record the asterisk sound in spanish, but I don't understand some files in english`
`03:24.25`	`asterboy`	`k`
`03:24.30`	`ManxPower`	`santiago, you looked at sounds.txt?`
`03:24.41`	`tengulre`	`asterboy, do you use Hylafax??`
`03:24.50`	`santiago`	`ManxPower, let me see`
`03:25.24`	`asterboy`	`yes, I have installed it for many companies with 1000 faxes per week`
`03:25.35`	`santiago`	`ManxPower, thanks`
`03:25.37`	`asterboy`	`best fax ever made`
`03:25.50`	`ManxPower`	`santiago, you are welcome`
`03:26.04`	`tengulre`	`asterboy: I use mgetty+sendfax for send or recive fax, about 3000 faxes per week! :)`
`03:26.14`	`LostFrog`	`asterboy: what modem?`
`03:26.15`	`asterboy`	`yes that works well also.`
`03:26.26`	`asterboy`	`courier`
`03:26.41`	`tengulre`	`asterboy: 16 lines`
`03:26.43`	`tengulre`	`:)`
`03:26.52`	`asterboy`	`v.everything and USR robotics I purchased on ebay for $2 a piece`
`03:27.02`	`tengulre`	`I use Rockwell chip!`
`03:27.04`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: FUCK`
`03:27.12`	`asterboy`	`16 lines is a lot of faxing.`
`03:27.13`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: same error!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!`
`03:27.20`	`tengulre`	`asterboy: yeah!`
`03:27.37`	`LostFrog`	`I just installed a Zylex 1496. I have yet to test it.`
`03:27.40`	`pygrammer`	`FATAL: Module ztdummy not found.`
`03:27.54`	`tengulre`	`asterboy: how are you sloved the bug when send a fax play a messages?`
`03:27.56`	`harryvv`	`rocketport would do 16 lines I think`
`03:28.12`	`Kort`	`I like my fax machine plugged into a TDM20`
`03:28.22`	`puzzled`	`anyone happen to know where "asterisk" is defined in iax2 which it displays on the phone when there is no callerid`
`03:28.32`	`tengulre`	`asterboy: what are your client application?`
`03:29.07`	`ManxPower`	`puzzled, use the ex-girlfriend option to change the callerid to something else when a call comes in without callerid`
`03:29.12`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer, go back here and read the part about Linux26 and the make modules_prepare`
`03:29.14`	`asterboy`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Zaptel+Installation`
`03:29.40`	`puzzled`	`ManxPower: sure that's an option but I'd rather patch once :)`
`03:30.10`	`asterboy`	`tengulre, I have Hylafax and Asterisk on the same system...but Asterisk is not controlling united with my Hylafax part.`
`03:30.11`	`ManxPower`	`puzzled, What? You don't have a macro that's called on every call before Dial?`
`03:30.15`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: hmm`
`03:30.25`	`tengulre`	`asterboy: cool!`
`03:30.31`	`asterboy`	`so I don't have to worry about the play a message bug.`
`03:30.42`	`puzzled`	`ManxPower: ok you have got a point there :)`
`03:31.13`	`tengulre`	`asterboy: if remote machine is a manual mode, how to ask it this is a fax signal?`
`03:31.19`	`tengulre`	`BEEP?`
`03:31.24`	`puzzled`	`ManxPower: still it bugs me that I can't find it. It's like unwanted advertising. It has to be replaced with Unknown or Private`
`03:31.41`	`harryvv`	`asterboy so hylafax and asterisk not interfearing with each other?`
`03:32.00`	`jayk-`	`\`
`03:32.05`	`asterboy`	`My client application is Webmin - http://www.webmin.com/index6.html`
`03:32.06`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: I did make modules_prepare`
`03:32.16`	`asterboy`	`I did some heavy perl mods to it though.`
`03:32.17`	`ManxPower`	`puzzled, submit a patch to make it a configure value or #define`
`03:32.17`	`pygrammer`	`when you first told me to`
`03:32.47`	`puzzled`	`ManxPower: that's the idea but I can't find where it is defined. not in chan_iax2.c, not in iax2.h. search continues`
`03:32.51`	`asterboy`	`harryvv, not at all.`
`03:33.03`	`asterboy`	`fax lines goto serial ports/`
`03:33.05`	`ManxPower`	`puzzled, it's global AFIK`
`03:33.17`	`puzzled`	`ManxPower: I found one in chan_sip.c`
`03:33.32`	`harryvv`	`so hylafax can recive faxes then send them to the email inbox`
`03:33.34`	`tengulre`	`asterboy: my mean is if remote machine by setting manual mode when you sendfax, how to ask remote user this is a fax signal?`
`03:33.34`	`ManxPower`	`puzzled, OK, it should be global.`
`03:33.39`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: when I run /etc/init.d/zaptel start Waiting for zap to come online...Error: missing /dev/zap!`
`03:33.42`	`puzzled`	`ManxPower: yup`
`03:33.47`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer, ok so reboot and see if that helps...make dure those lines are still in the /etc/udev/rules.d file...we may need to play around with the proper location if it fails again.`
`03:34.16`	`asterboy`	`harryvv, yes, fax to email gateway.`
`03:34.20`	`AgiNamu`	`hmm, if zttest is running at 99.98, I could add a second proc and probably help out eh? (i have 2 cards)`
`03:34.36`	`harryvv`	`asterboy thats what I thought`
`03:34.42`	`tengulre`	`harryvv: yes, of course!~`
`03:35.06`	`asterboy`	`I also use samba to access files.`
`03:35.19`	`tengulre`	`harryvv: or write a perl script to send fax to email!`
`03:35.22`	`asterboy`	`Samba also is used to print from any application.`
`03:35.35`	`asterboy`	`do a google for kevin dawson hylafax`
`03:35.46`	`harryvv`	`looking at its main web sit`
`03:35.49`	`harryvv`	`site`
`03:35.51`	`tengulre`	`asterboy: my problem?`
`03:36.08`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: well, I'm pretty sure this is the file`
`03:36.28`	`pygrammer`	`plus, it says: FATAL: Module ztdummy not found.`
`03:36.29`	`pygrammer`	`FATAL: Error running install command for ztdummy`
`03:36.38`	`pygrammer`	`so it couldn't find it, but it also says error running install`
`03:36.44`	`pygrammer`	`which it doesn't say for modprobe zaptel`
`03:36.54`	`asterboy`	`tengulre...I'm trying to figure out your question...if the remote is in manual mode, you want it to magically switch over to auto answer?`
`03:37.32`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer...your very close...just need to make sure the /dev files are being created.`
`03:37.50`	`tengulre`	`asterboy: no I want play a rmd file, like ' please press the receive button to receive fax....'`
`03:37.57`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: is there any way I can figure that out?`
`03:38.01`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: I also get "WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/Module.symvers`
`03:38.01`	`pygrammer`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:38.06`	`pygrammer`	`when make installing`
`03:38.11`	`pygrammer`	`it's just a warning, but still`
`03:38.16`	`pygrammer`	`not sure if it matters`
`03:40.07`	`asterboy`	`tengulre, ok so you want where someone calls into asterisk and get past the auto attendant to a spot where they can dump a fax by pressing send?`
`03:40.20`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer, goto /dev/zap anything?`
`03:40.29`	`pygrammer`	`nope`
`03:40.31`	`pygrammer`	`err, heh`
`03:40.39`	`tengulre`	`asterboy: I only use hylafax!`
`03:40.39`	`asterboy`	`so it is indeed not creating the proper files.`
`03:40.39`	`pygrammer`	`the modules got installed in the wrong directory!`
`03:40.43`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: no wonder`
`03:40.51`	`pygrammer`	`lib/modules/2.6.12/misc/`
`03:40.52`	`asterboy`	`ah!`
`03:40.55`	`pygrammer`	`instead of 2.6.12-9`
`03:41.26`	`pygrammer`	`at least I think so`
`03:41.32`	`asterboy`	`tengulre, checking..`
`03:41.36`	`*** join/#asterisk w0w0 (n=w0w0@223.Red-81-39-77.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)`
`03:41.36`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: it wouldn't be right if those modules were the only thing in the directory, right?`
`03:41.41`	`*** join/#asterisk alephcom (n=alephcom@207.34.97.130)`
`03:42.55`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer, not sure...might be ok...go back to /etc/udev/rules.d and lets try another udev file...pulling lines from the last editted version and placing them in a different version.`
`03:43.27`	`asterboy`	`tegnulre, hablo espanola?`
`03:43.39`	`pygrammer`	`well, i don't think the /lib/modules/ directory the files went into is correct`
`03:43.44`	`pygrammer`	`I just found this on that wiki page`
`03:43.45`	`pygrammer`	`Sep 2004: When compiling zaptel for ztdummy, be sure to link /usr/src/linux-2.6 to /lib/modules/2.6.x.x.etc/build so modprobe will succeed.`
`03:43.59`	`pygrammer`	`but /build doesn't exist in that directory`
`03:44.05`	`asterboy`	`ok, that sounds right.`
`03:44.06`	`pygrammer`	`but it does in the 2.6.12-9 one`
`03:44.08`	`Qwell`	`Any distro that doesn't make that build symlink isn't worth their salt`
`03:44.14`	`pygrammer`	`so i think i should have linked it to 2.6.12-9`
`03:44.18`	`Qwell`	`should be avoided at all costs`
`03:44.20`	`asterboy`	`can you make a sym link`
`03:44.21`	`asterboy`	`?`
`03:44.23`	`pygrammer`	`Qwell: breezy?`
`03:44.24`	`Qwell`	`sure, ln -s`
`03:44.35`	`Qwell`	`pygrammer: I doubt debian derivs don't make said link`
`03:44.38`	`bpm-`	`anyone know how to change the outgoing smtp server and port asterisk uses to send emails?`
`03:44.43`	`pygrammer`	`Qwell: heh`
`03:44.44`	`Qwell`	`Did you install kernel-headers?`
`03:44.50`	`pygrammer`	`Qwell: yes, i installed the source even`
`03:45.01`	`pygrammer`	`as per asterboy recommendation`
`03:45.01`	`Qwell`	`kernel-headers only`
`03:45.02`	`pygrammer`	`*'s`
`03:45.16`	`Qwell`	`kernel-sources doesn't do squat on debian for that`
`03:45.23`	`asterboy`	`I did mine with full source...works well.`
`03:45.30`	`pygrammer`	`so, what are you saying, Qwell`
`03:45.32`	`Qwell`	`You must've had kernel-headers installed to`
`03:45.34`	`asterboy`	`ah...I'm using lfs`
`03:45.38`	`Qwell`	`I'm saying that if you install kernel-headers, it'll work fine`
`03:45.45`	`Qwell`	`on debian and derivs`
`03:45.47`	`pygrammer`	`Qwell: I did`
`03:45.53`	`Qwell`	`For the exact same kernel?`
`03:45.58`	`pygrammer`	`Qwell: I got a really weird error that we couldn't figure out`
`03:46.03`	`Qwell`	`Whats the error?`
`03:46.09`	`pygrammer`	`yes, I believe so -- unless I did something wrong -- but there was no symlink created`
`03:46.22`	`Qwell`	`kernel-headers puts that symlink there, if I'm not mistaken`
`03:46.24`	`asterboy`	`udev is not creating the proper devs`
`03:46.27`	`pygrammer`	`it doesn't matter at this point, because it seems like everything's been installed - udev just isn't initializing the modules`
`03:46.29`	`Qwell`	`README.udev`
`03:46.29`	`pygrammer`	`yeah`
`03:46.44`	`Qwell`	`asterisk should have bitched at you when you ran make install`
`03:46.46`	`Qwell`	`erm, zaptel?`
`03:46.50`	`pygrammer`	`zaptel`
`03:46.55`	`asterboy`	`tell Qwell about the files you have in /etc/udev/rules.d`
`03:46.57`	`Qwell`	`whichever. it would have yelled at you`
`03:46.57`	`pygrammer`	it's because I made the symlink to /lib/modules/`uname -r`
`03:47.00`	`pygrammer`	`which isn't right`
`03:47.14`	`pygrammer`	`should be the longer one with /build`
`03:47.23`	`Katty`	`hi lads.`
`03:47.25`	`pygrammer`	/lib/modules/`uname -r` has nothing in it
`03:47.31`	`asterboy`	`hi Katty`
`03:47.36`	`pygrammer`	`-- excpet the compiled zaptel modules!`
`03:47.39`	`pygrammer`	`*except`
`03:47.44`	`Qwell`	`lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Oct 21 2004 /lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r1/build -> /usr/src/linux-2.6.9-gentoo-r1`
`03:47.56`	`Qwell`	`Then you didn't install kernel-headers. :P`
`03:48.06`	`Qwell`	apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
`03:48.08`	`pygrammer`	`i thought you were supposed to create the opposite symlink ... that's what it says to do`
`03:48.14`	`Qwell`	`no`
`03:48.22`	`pygrammer`	`Sep 2004: When compiling zaptel for ztdummy, be sure to link /usr/src/linux-2.6 to /lib/modules/2.6.x.x.etc/build so modprobe will succeed.`
`03:48.29`	`pygrammer`	`yes.... /usr/src/linux-2.6 TO`
`03:48.38`	`pygrammer`	`/lib/modules/2.6.10-9/build`
`03:49.24`	`Qwell`	`other way around`
`03:49.29`	`Qwell`	`guaranteed`
`03:49.50`	`pygrammer`	`hmm :X you're right`
`03:49.53`	`pygrammer`	`that symlink is already created`
`03:50.05`	`pygrammer`	`robert@jesus:~/downloads/Zaptel/zaptel-1.2.0$ ls -al /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build`
`03:50.05`	`pygrammer`	`lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2005-12-01 22:41 /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build -> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12`
`03:50.10`	`*** join/#asterisk rajiv (n=irc@gentoo/developer/rajiv)`
`03:50.29`	`pygrammer`	`Qwell: right now, I'm trying to figure out udev`
`03:50.31`	`pygrammer`	`any suggestions?`
`03:50.37`	`pygrammer`	`it can't modprobe the modules`
`03:50.46`	`Qwell`	`pygrammer: What errors are you getting, exactly?`
`03:50.57`	`pygrammer`	`I think because they're in /lib/modules/2.6.12, instead of /lib/modules/2.6.12-9 -- I think it was the symlink I created`
`03:51.00`	`Qwell`	`pastebin them`
`03:51.13`	`pygrammer`	`right now, udev-related: robert@jesus:~/downloads/Zaptel/zaptel-1.2.0$ sudo modprobe ztdummy`
`03:51.13`	`pygrammer`	`FATAL: Module ztdummy not found.`
`03:51.13`	`pygrammer`	`FATAL: Error running install command for ztdummy`
`03:51.15`	`dudes`	`I had that problem`
`03:51.17`	`pygrammer`	`that's it`
`03:51.25`	`pygrammer`	`i just don't know where to put the README.udev lines`
`03:51.27`	`dudes`	`try modprobe --ignore-install ztdummy`
`03:51.34`	`pygrammer`	`because debian has a weird way of doing udev`
`03:51.53`	`pygrammer`	`dudes: FATAL: Module ztdummy not found.`
`03:52.18`	`pygrammer`	`I put the udev lines in /etc/udev/rules.d/z50_run.rules`
`03:52.32`	`pygrammer`	`which is not what's in README.udev, but he's obviously using a different distro`
`03:52.55`	`pygrammer`	`it's as close as I could find I think, as it has "50" in it, but it only had 5 lines other than those I added`
`03:53.11`	`dudes`	`I'll tell you what I did`
`03:53.11`	`Qwell`	`50 is fairly arbitrary`
`03:53.12`	`pygrammer`	`and the one I originally put everything in has a lot more`
`03:53.17`	`pygrammer`	`dudes: Debian?`
`03:53.20`	`pygrammer`	`/Ubuntu`
`03:53.21`	`dudes`	`yea`
`03:53.26`	`pygrammer`	`i'm using Breezy 5.10`
`03:53.31`	`dudes`	`Same shit`
`03:53.36`	`pygrammer`	`dudes: ok, tell me! I'm frustrated as hell`
`03:53.38`	`pygrammer`	`:P`
`03:53.55`	`Katty`	`...`
`03:54.04`	`dudes`	`I've had this on most debian boxes /w head starting September`
`03:54.05`	`Katty`	`you've all clearly insaned.`
`03:54.07`	`harryvv`	`kitkat`
`03:54.11`	`pygrammer`	`dudes: ok`
`03:54.21`	`pygrammer`	`oh, maybe it's /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules`
`03:54.24`	`pygrammer`	`... i could try that`
`03:54.30`	`pygrammer`	`that has a lot more lines`
`03:54.35`	`Qwell`	`doesn't matter really.`
`03:54.41`	`Qwell`	`udev.rules may get overwritten though`
`03:54.44`	`pygrammer`	`they're all loaded?`
`03:54.53`	`pygrammer`	`there's ALSO a udev.rules in /etc/udev itself`
`03:54.54`	`Qwell`	`anything in rules.d/ yeah`
`03:54.58`	`pygrammer`	`so this is very confusing`
`03:55.25`	`Qwell`	`pygrammer: open it. I bet it says to include /etc/udev/rules.d/`
`03:55.51`	`pygrammer`	`Qwell: no, that's the thing; it doesn't`
`03:55.59`	`pygrammer`	`it has lines`
`03:56.00`	`*** join/#asterisk mcadory (n=mcadory@208.149.64.28)`
`03:56.02`	`pygrammer`	`no include`
`03:56.07`	`pygrammer`	`so i'm confused as to which one to put it in`
`03:56.16`	`pygrammer`	`also, i may have to recompile, as the symlink might be fux0red`
`03:56.38`	`pygrammer`	`I don't know where to put the kernel modules, as well -- /lib/modules/2.6.10-9/build?`
`03:57.04`	`dudes`	`pygrammer - cp *.ko lib/modules/2.6.12-9/misc`
`03:57.25`	`dudes`	`then just make clean && make && make install zaptel`
`03:57.52`	`pygrammer`	cp: `/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build/misc': specified destination directory does not exist
`03:58.00`	`Qwell`	`not build`
`03:58.02`	`dudes`	`you may need to modprobe --ignore-install ztdummy in local on boot`
`03:58.13`	`*** join/#asterisk Defraz (n=t0tal@103-49.69-92-cpe.cableone.net)`
`03:58.21`	`dudes`	`if debian you'll need to create a local file but it's easy`
`03:58.22`	`pygrammer`	`Qwell: there is no /misc, either`
`03:58.31`	`dudes`	`then mkdir misc`
`03:58.50`	`pygrammer`	`wait, is "lib/" supposed to be "/lib"?`
`03:58.57`	`Qwell`	`yes, of course`
`03:58.59`	`pygrammer`	`ok`
`03:59.03`	`pygrammer`	`because i was confused`
`03:59.08`	`Qwell`	`dudes: Are you the dudes?`
`03:59.12`	`dudes`	`I'm sick`
`03:59.15`	`Qwell`	`"The" dudes`
`03:59.43`	`Qwell`	`the one who gave the very interesting zaptel RF talk at astricon?`
`03:59.55`	`dudes`	`No that's not me`
`04:00.03`	`pygrammer`	`dudes: I don't understand...`
`04:00.06`	`pygrammer`	`what is simply making it again gonna do?`
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`04:00.14`	`pygrammer`	`why did i bother copying already-compiled kernel modules into /misc?`
`04:00.25`	`pygrammer`	`it's just going to compile them...`
`04:00.27`	`Qwell`	`pygrammer: give me root access and 5 minutes. I'll fix 'er up`
`04:00.37`	`Qwell`	`actually, give me an hour, then give me those things. :P`
`04:00.39`	`Qwell`	`brb`
`04:00.52`	`pygrammer`	`i need to go to bed soon`
`04:00.56`	`pygrammer`	`but i need to fix this tonight`
`04:01.02`	`dudes`	`pygrammer - cp the ko's and recompile !!!!!!!!`
`04:01.03`	`pygrammer`	`otherwise i will be thinking about it all day tomorrow :)`
`04:01.06`	`Qwell`	`well, I'll be back during commercials.`
`04:01.09`	`pygrammer`	`dudes: I did`
`04:01.12`	`dudes`	`and`
`04:01.30`	`pygrammer`	`make: *** [zaptel] Error 1`
`04:01.34`	`pygrammer`	`during make install`
`04:01.38`	`pygrammer`	`make install zaptel*`
`04:01.46`	`pygrammer`	`why not just make install?`
`04:02.00`	`pygrammer`	`collect2: ld returned 1 exit status`
`04:02.10`	`dudes`	`I didn't mean make install "zaptel"`
`04:02.16`	`pygrammer`	`oh...`
`04:02.22`	`dudes`	`I meant ... "make clean && make && make install`
`04:02.26`	`pygrammer`	`ok, done`
`04:02.30`	`pygrammer`	`now what?`
`04:02.33`	`pygrammer`	`where do i put the udev crap?`
`04:02.46`	`dudes`	`mopdrobe ztdummy`
`04:02.59`	`pygrammer`	`but dude, i'm using 2.6 and have to do the udev stuff....`
`04:03.18`	`pygrammer`	`or, never mind!`
`04:03.22`	`pygrammer`	`it works :P`
`04:03.23`	`dudes`	`thank you`
`04:03.32`	`pygrammer`	`o_0`
`04:03.37`	`pygrammer`	`so, what about the udev for startup?`
`04:04.05`	`dudes`	`I just create a local file and set asterisk/zaptel there`
`04:04.26`	`dudes`	`I don't bother /w the udev on debian`
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`04:04.32`	`pygrammer`	`hmm, ok`
`04:04.42`	`pygrammer`	`can you give me your local file?`
`04:04.53`	`AgiNamu`	`should ztcfg work from rc.local?`
`04:05.02`	`Qwell`	`AgiNamu: should`
`04:05.11`	`AgiNamu`	`I run safe_asterisk in rc.local, but it just loops, zaptel wont load`
`04:05.11`	`pygrammer`	`so, I don't need to do anything with udev?`
`04:05.17`	`AgiNamu`	`if i login an run ztcfg then its fine`
`04:05.44`	`AgiNamu`	`i stuck ztcfg in the safe_asterisk script (since i wanna shut off the spans when asterisk exits)`
`04:05.45`	`Qwell`	`AgiNamu: I think you need to ztcfg after modules are loaded. time it properly`
`04:05.45`	`dudes`	`AgiNamu - try sleep 1 before and after`
`04:06.03`	`AgiNamu`	`hmm ok ill try that`
`04:06.04`	`AgiNamu`	`thanks!`
`04:06.11`	`AgiNamu`	`will adding another proc help zaptel?`
`04:06.13`	`pygrammer`	`dudes: because I don't want to have to modprobe ztdummy and modprobe zaptel every time`
`04:06.20`	`AgiNamu`	`i.e., get my zttest up to 99.99? (I have 2 cards)`
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`04:06.38`	`AgiNamu`	`by disabling hyperthreading, usb, and acpi, i was able to get it to 99.98 (from 99.97)`
`04:06.51`	`pygrammer`	`so, should i just create an init.d file or something?`
`04:07.09`	`dudes`	`it's a bit more involved than that`
`04:07.18`	`dudes`	`but basically yes`
`04:07.25`	`pygrammer`	`well, can you send me yours or something?`
`04:07.28`	`pygrammer`	`how is it a bit more involved?`
`04:07.54`	`dudes`	`You need to tell debian to use the file "local" in /etc/init.d/`
`04:08.00`	`pygrammer`	`oh, yeah`
`04:08.10`	`dudes`	`modprobe wcfxo`
`04:08.10`	`dudes`	`modprobe zaptel`
`04:08.13`	`dudes`	`sleep 1`
`04:08.13`	`dudes`	`/usr/sbin/safe_asteris`
`04:08.23`	`dudes`	`That's all I do and it works fine everytime`
`04:08.28`	`AgiNamu`	`no ztcfg? :P`
`04:08.34`	`dudes`	`no`
`04:09.15`	`pygrammer`	`dudes: what's the command again, rc-update or something`
`04:09.24`	`pygrammer`	`to tell debian to create the rcx.d files`
`04:09.36`	`dudes`	`I don't remember`
`04:09.37`	`pygrammer`	`ah, update-rc.d`
`04:10.00`	`dudes`	`I do ztcfg on the TE410P though`
`04:11.00`	`dudes`	`ie, modprobe wct4xxp sleep 1 ztcfg sleep 1`
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`04:11.14`	`pygrammer`	`dudes: what is safe_asterisk?`
`04:11.14`	`dudes`	`but with "enters" after each new command`
`04:11.22`	`pygrammer`	`is there a difference between that and asterisk?`
`04:11.27`	`pygrammer`	`and can i just use /etc/init.d/asterisk start?`
`04:11.36`	`dudes`	`It tries to recover in the event of a crash`
`04:11.53`	`dudes`	`I don't use * bootscripts that's why I start it there`
`04:11.59`	`pygrammer`	`oh`
`04:12.17`	`pygrammer`	`since I do, I can just modprobe it there, right?`
`04:12.22`	`pygrammer`	`and not start asterisk`
`04:12.49`	`dudes`	`the only problem there might be, since * will probably be executed before local`
`04:13.00`	`pygrammer`	`what is "local"?`
`04:13.15`	`dudes`	`it won't get timing since it's already started * when it gets to local`
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`04:13.39`	`pygrammer`	`i don't understand what you mean by local`
`04:13.42`	`dudes`	`it's like rc.local on red hat except you create it yourself`
`04:13.51`	`dudes`	`since debian doesn't have a rc.local`
`04:13.52`	`pygrammer`	`oh - but it is an /etc/init.d script`
`04:14.02`	`pygrammer`	`well, /etc/rcN.d`
`04:14.05`	`dudes`	`I just put mine there`
`04:14.25`	`dudes`	`cause it seemed like a good place ... and that's where they say to put`
`04:14.27`	`dudes`	`it`
`04:14.33`	`pygrammer`	`so asterisk has to be restarted to have timing if the timing modules are loaded after it is started?`
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`04:14.42`	`dudes`	`yes`
`04:14.45`	`pygrammer`	`darn`
`04:15.06`	`pygrammer`	`suppose I could delete the rcN.d scripts for asterisk`
`04:15.10`	`pygrammer`	`and then add them`
`04:15.13`	`pygrammer`	`so they'd be lower in priority`
`04:15.25`	`bzbw`	`anyone knows that 1.2 somehow break the SIP connection to Broadvoice service?`
`04:15.41`	`Qwell`	`bzbw: broadvoice breaks SIP connections to broadvoice`
`04:16.20`	`bzbw`	`Qwell: Emm?? I used 1.2RC2 and it was working.`
`04:16.56`	`Qwell`	`Well, what's the problem?`
`04:17.04`	`bzbw`	`and I can no longer build RC2 on top of 1.2 any more, there are a bunch of error.`
`04:17.11`	`dudes`	`http://www.clarksys.com/archives/2005/03/23/broadvoice-sucks-too/`
`04:17.19`	`dudes`	`that may be the problem`
`04:17.43`	`bzbw`	`hold on, let me get a console output.`
`04:20.44`	`pygrammer`	`do any of you use voicepulse?`
`04:20.51`	`pygrammer`	`broadvoice doesn't look very good from that post :P`
`04:21.14`	`pygrammer`	`i've just been using stanaphone -- free number and incoming minutes`
`04:21.20`	`pygrammer`	`and voipjet/voxee for outgoing`
`04:21.42`	`pygrammer`	`so i'm just taking advantage of stanaphone's service but not paying them anything -- moral? i don't know :P`
`04:24.05`	`distortion`	`stanaphone inbound with w/*?`
`04:24.30`	`pygrammer`	`yeah`
`04:24.33`	`pygrammer`	`it barely works :P`
`04:24.36`	`gdm-`	`I'm trying to figure out how to do an absolute minimal configuration of *. If I do something like delete modem.conf, though, things barf. What's up? (I'm not using any of that functionality as far as I know)`
`04:24.52`	`pygrammer`	`distortion: well, I am behind a NAT`
`04:24.54`	`pygrammer`	`supposedly DMZ'ed`
`04:25.12`	`pygrammer`	`but it still gives me all these 401 Unauthorized errors all the time`
`04:25.17`	`pygrammer`	`still, it seems to work most of the time :P`
`04:25.33`	`pygrammer`	`i guess they're very particular about the sip register string...i got it perfect once`
`04:25.50`	`asterboy`	`pygrammer, did you get the modprobe yet?`
`04:25.53`	`dudes`	`gdm - perhaps try modules.conf instead`
`04:25.53`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: :D`
`04:25.54`	`pygrammer`	`yeah`
`04:26.03`	`asterboy`	`what was it?`
`04:26.04`	`gdm-`	`dudes: Yes, I disabled it in modules.conf.`
`04:26.07`	`pygrammer`	`dudes told me his configuration - worked beautifully`
`04:26.20`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: i just copied the modules and recompiled/installed`
`04:26.25`	`pygrammer`	`dunno why it worked, but it did`
`04:26.31`	`pygrammer`	`and i'm not using udev, just an init.d script`
`04:26.48`	`asterboy`	`ok`
`04:27.32`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: thanks a lot for all your hel`
`04:27.34`	`pygrammer`	`*help`
`04:27.35`	`PoWeRKiLL`	`someone know why Set(CALLERID(number)=value) is not working in my mysql cdr ?`
`04:27.38`	`pygrammer`	`and yours dudes`
`04:27.42`	`PoWeRKiLL`	`I use * 1.2`
`04:27.46`	`asterboy`	`ya that was fun.`
`04:27.49`	`pygrammer`	`haha`
`04:27.50`	`pygrammer`	`:(`
`04:27.56`	`pygrammer`	`i get frustrated easily`
`04:27.59`	`asterboy`	`did you get the zapatel.conf done yet?`
`04:28.01`	`pygrammer`	`i was about to throw my computer out the window`
`04:28.06`	`pygrammer`	`oops, no`
`04:28.12`	`dudes`	`I f'ed with that for some 6hrs before I figured it out`
`04:28.22`	`asterboy`	`won't go far without it.`
`04:28.36`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: really? it seems like it's setup`
`04:28.38`	`asterboy`	`must be a debian thing.`
`04:28.40`	`pygrammer`	`what do I have to do?`
`04:28.54`	`pygrammer`	`/etc/zapatel.conf exists, but i don't know what to put in it`
`04:29.00`	`pygrammer`	`and i only need it for ztdummy`
`04:29.11`	`pygrammer`	`for music-on-hold - i'm not using any TDM cards or anything`
`04:29.11`	`asterboy`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+config+zaptel.conf`
`04:29.27`	`dudes`	`zaptel.conf`
`04:29.28`	`asterboy`	`oh..your just doing SIP or IAX?`
`04:29.33`	`pygrammer`	`yeah`
`04:29.33`	`dudes`	`loadzone=us defaultzone=us`
`04:29.39`	`pygrammer`	`dudes: that's what I have :)`
`04:29.54`	`pygrammer`	`asterboy: for now ;)`
`04:30.00`	`asterboy`	`too easy.`
`04:30.05`	`pygrammer`	`:D`
`04:30.18`	`pygrammer`	`but I have to get up at 6`
`04:30.22`	`pygrammer`	`so I bid ye farewell`
`04:30.43`	`asterboy`	`for certain you'll have to play with http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+config+extensions.conf`
`04:30.48`	`pygrammer`	`oh yeah`
`04:30.53`	`pygrammer`	`I've used * before :D`
`04:30.55`	`asterboy`	`night!`
`04:31.00`	`pygrammer`	`just didn't have this much friggin trouble with ztdummy before`
`04:31.09`	`pygrammer`	`i used 2.4 before, maybe that's why`
`04:31.24`	`asterboy`	`go with Linux from scratch and you won't have that much trouble.`
`04:31.31`	`pygrammer`	`haha`
`04:31.33`	`pygrammer`	`gnight, dude (and "dudes" :P) -- thanks for all your help`
`04:34.04`	`distortion`	`stanaphone has a slick setup`
`04:34.19`	`pygrammer`	`how so?`
`04:34.29`	`distortion`	`website just looks smooth`
`04:34.47`	`distortion`	`navigation and everything seems quite professional`
`04:35.16`	`distortion`	`although their voice prompts sound terrible, i tried the conf service and its not working :(`
`04:35.40`	`bpm-`	`anyone know how to change the outgoing smtp server and port asterisk uses to send emails?`
`04:37.03`	`drumkilla`	`bpm-: it just uses sendmail`
`04:37.24`	`bpm-`	`yea i know but my isp is blocking port 25`
`04:37.26`	`pygrammer`	`2.6cents/min is ridiculous though`
`04:37.31`	`pygrammer`	`(distortion)`
`04:37.33`	`drumkilla`	`bpm-: well that sucks :)`
`04:37.38`	`dudes`	`then change sendmail to use a diff port maybe?`
`04:37.40`	`pygrammer`	`voxee does 1.1 cents/min`
`04:37.50`	`bpm-`	`thats my question. How?`
`04:37.55`	`pygrammer`	`this is clearly a cutthroat business :)`
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`04:38.09`	`PoWeRKiLL`	`I found a bug in forkcdr`
`04:38.29`	`Nugget`	`set up a smart relay in sendmail.cf that sends mail to the isp mailserver you're supposed to be using.`
`04:38.33`	`Nugget`	`it's a one-line change`
`04:38.52`	`dudes`	`bpm- a simple good search would give probably answer your question`
`04:38.53`	`PoWeRKiLL`	`If I set the callerid after using forkcdr I got 3 entries in my cdr instead of 2 and the 2 first entries have the same uniqueid`
`04:39.03`	`Nugget`	`you can't change sendmail to use a different port because nobody else is using that port to receive mail`
`04:39.21`	`bpm-`	`i have a server thats on port 29`
`04:39.22`	`Nugget`	`edit sendmail.cf and search for "smart relay"`
`04:39.32`	`bpm-`	`Nugget: thanks`
`04:39.34`	`Nugget`	`set that line to your isp's mail server.`
`04:40.23`	`Katty`	`ooo, a Nugget`
`04:40.43`	`Nugget`	`:D`
`04:43.59`	`pygrammer`	`employees at the company i work for (a computer retail store) are getting free 6 months of vonage`
`04:44.04`	`pygrammer`	`might as well take it...`
`04:44.11`	`pygrammer`	`can't reject something free :)`
`04:44.12`	`distortion`	`is there a way to specify an ethernet interface to route calls out w/o configuring routing on the actual linux machine?`
`04:45.16`	`distortion`	`I have 3 (possibly more) ip's on * that i want to setup specific routing for, but calls seem to always route out the default interface/ip.`
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`04:45.46`	`digime`	`getting DTMF issues with all version of *`
`04:45.51`	`digime`	`DTMF is not working`
`04:46.03`	`digime`	`anyone recommend a working (not broken) version where DTMF works?`
`04:46.05`	`distortion`	`digime: new 1.2 works.`
`04:46.07`	`digime`	`this is in a production server!`
`04:46.15`	`distortion`	`i just upgraded last night to fix dtmf.`
`04:46.26`	`distortion`	`and its working for me now-`
`04:46.47`	`dudes`	`digime - sip/zap/iax`
`04:49.00`	`digime`	`i tried it`
`04:49.05`	`digime`	`still dtmf not working!`
`04:49.19`	`digime`	`we installed it`
`04:49.23`	`distortion`	`sip/zap/iax?`
`04:49.31`	`digime`	`is there some change that needs to be made. SIP`
`04:50.22`	`distortion`	`yeah, i was having same problem with SIP.. all i did was upgrade to 1.2-r7231 and make sure each endpoint had "dtmfmode=rfc2833" set and it started working immediately.`
`04:50.59`	`pygrammer`	`night`
`04:51.04`	`digime`	`thanks for the tip, trying now`
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`04:53.43`	`mikayle`	`I'm having a problem with a digium tdm400 with 4 inbound centrex analog lines connected to cisco 7960 phones`
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`04:53.54`	`mog_work`	`whats wrong buddy`
`04:53.57`	`mikayle`	`we are getting many ( < 50%) of the calls being dropped`
`04:54.18`	`mikayle`	`the log makes it look like the remote user is hanging up...but the remote user ends up listening to dead air`
`04:54.34`	`mikayle`	`I was wondering if there was something weird with centrex lines`
`04:54.34`	`mog_work`	`are you using callprogress or busydetect?`
`04:54.38`	`mikayle`	`yes`
`04:54.43`	`mog_work`	`which`
`04:54.45`	`mog_work`	`or both`
`04:55.05`	`mikayle`	`I've tried so many, lemme grab the current settings`
`04:55.40`	`mikayle`	`callprogress=yes`
`04:55.40`	`mikayle`	`busydetect=yes`
`04:55.45`	`mikayle`	`that's what I have currently`
`04:55.47`	`mog_work`	`okay turn off callprogress`
`04:55.55`	`mog_work`	`whats your busycount`
`04:56.10`	`mikayle`	`4`
`04:56.14`	`mog_work`	`set it to 8`
`04:56.18`	`mog_work`	`and call me in the morning ^_^`
`04:57.07`	`mikayle`	`:)`
`04:57.08`	`mikayle`	`thankie`
`04:57.56`	`mog_work`	`no problem`
`04:57.59`	`mikayle`	`I figured it was the bad fxo causing the problem, was too much to hope for...`
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`05:00.06`	`mikayle`	`now to convince the boss to get off the 4 dialups and go VOIP for the pstn connection`
`05:00.17`	`Qwell`	`voip for work...yeah`
`05:00.24`	`Qwell`	`never a good idea`
`05:00.41`	`mikayle`	`small office...only 3 people, 2 remote sales people`
`05:00.57`	`mikayle`	`currently they are spending over $400 a month in LD between the 3 offices`
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`05:02.05`	`mikayle`	`I figure I drop a sip phone in each office and in 2 months I've got ROI`
`05:02.52`	`gdm-`	`Out of curiosity, don't the vast majority of POTS circuits use loop start signalling?`
`05:03.06`	`mikayle`	`dunno...docs all say to use kewlstart`
`05:03.20`	`gdm-`	`My choices are loopStart and groundStart.`
`05:08.34`	`gdm-`	`Hmmm.`
`05:09.26`	`mikayle`	`I guess par tof that would matter as to where you were`
`05:12.58`	`gdm-`	`Huh, if I set the station-id number it works fine again.`
`05:13.01`	`gdm-`	`Man, IOS is surreal.`
`05:13.03`	`gdm-`	`I'm in California.`
`05:15.47`	`harryvv`	`ios?`
`05:16.27`	`gdm-`	`Yes, I am using * to front a Cisco 2621 with 2 FXO ports.`
`05:17.22`	`harryvv`	`what do you mean by the term "front"`
`05:17.44`	`gdm-`	`The Cisco is a SIP-PSTN gateway.`
`05:17.48`	`loud`	`to terminate on the cisco`
`05:18.34`	`harryvv`	`k`
`05:19.00`	`harryvv`	`I remember learning about the 2600s 5 years ago.`
`05:19.09`	`gdm-`	`It's a nice little router.`
`05:19.14`	`harryvv`	`dinner`
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`05:21.36`	`john867530`	`Anyone know of a good way to stream meetme conferences? without using ices?`
`05:28.24`	`trixter`	`that is the only way I know of that works off the shelf`
`05:31.57`	`john867530`	`The problem is that ices is not in real time`
`05:32.10`	`john867530`	`if I had a way to do that I would use that`
`05:33.46`	`bsdfreak`	`heh`
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`05:42.30`	`asterboy`	`yippiee`
`05:42.36`	`asterboy`	`digium clone card works.`
`05:42.48`	`asterboy`	`every pci slot is now filled.`
`05:43.20`	`asterboy`	`although I am concerned that both FXO cards have IRQ 3.`
`05:44.05`	`asterboy`	`Anyone report on what IRQ shares are like when both ports active???`
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`05:46.21`	`asterboy`	`Anyone have issues with throughput on IRQ shared FXO cards ? ? ?`
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`05:50.41`	`benjk`	`asterboy, get a vintage Mac, run Yellow Dog Linux on it for Asterisk and Zaptel, no IRQ issues.`
`05:50.51`	`asterboy`	`tengulre: hey, noticed your in #phpwebsite...what you got going on in there?`
`05:51.11`	`asterboy`	`benjk, I do love that about Mac.`
`05:51.19`	`asterboy`	`That is the way it should be.`
`05:51.35`	`asterboy`	`Alas, I fear the PC world will never mature.`
`05:51.40`	`benjk`	`there's one model called the PowerMac 9600, it has got 6 PCI slots`
`05:51.49`	`benjk`	`vintage 1997/1998`
`05:52.07`	`asterboy`	`whats the equiv CPU?`
`05:52.41`	`benjk`	`the CPU is actually a card that you can replace`
`05:53.04`	`benjk`	`the original ones had something like 120MHz PPC604 (that's pre-G3)`
`05:53.27`	`benjk`	`but there are third party vendors who sell G3 and G4 cards for those`
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`05:54.24`	`asterboy`	`ebay has 300MHz cards for $11`
`05:54.41`	`benjk`	`yup, that stuff is very cheap now`
`05:54.58`	`benjk`	`because these boxes cannot officially run OSX`
`05:55.09`	`benjk`	`so many Mac users dump them`
`05:55.23`	`asterboy`	`holy shit, the whole unit is selling for $14`
`05:55.28`	`benjk`	`but since you would be running LinuxPPC on them anyway, that is of no concern to you`
`05:55.33`	`asterboy`	`you know...I just might bite on that.`
`05:55.40`	`asterboy`	`Anyone else running Asterisk on that?`
`05:55.56`	`benjk`	`many Asteriskers did just that and lived happily ever after`
`05:56.01`	`benjk`	`;-)`
`05:56.06`	`asterboy`	`benjk, do you have a setup?`
`05:56.35`	`benjk`	`I have one of those 9600s with a 120MHz CPU for zaptel testing and lab stuff, yes`
`05:56.51`	`asterboy`	`interesting.`
`05:57.16`	`benjk`	`Yoy may know Nicolas the guy from Argentina who wrote the Flash Operator Panel`
`05:57.51`	`benjk`	`he's running a 9600/300MHz with 5 or 6 FXO cards in his company, and he's very happy with it`
`05:58.01`	`asterboy`	`very nice.`
`05:58.36`	`asterboy`	`is the hard drive standard IDE for those units?`
`05:58.48`	`benjk`	`and we've got a Mac Asterisk community too ... http://www.astmasters.net (OSX & LinuxPPC)`
`05:59.11`	`benjk`	`depends, some still have SCSI, some have IDE already`
`05:59.29`	`benjk`	`mine's got SCSI`
`05:59.48`	`asterboy`	`the unit on ebay has an 80Gg, thats worth the $10 right there.`
`05:59.57`	`asterboy`	`I'm sold.`
`06:00.00`	`benjk`	`indeed`
`06:00.01`	`asterboy`	`Me want.`
`06:00.08`	`benjk`	`:-)`
`06:00.38`	`benjk`	`you need to install at least YDL 3.0.1`
`06:00.50`	`benjk`	`3.0 did have trouble with Zaptel`
`06:01.30`	`asterboy`	`will the new 4.0.1 run?`
`06:01.59`	`benjk`	`I haven;t tested it myself, but some folks on our Mac Asterisk mailing list said they did`
`06:02.15`	`benjk`	`even with T1 cards I think`
`06:02.59`	`asterboy`	`Well I'll have a good reason to join astmasters if I get one ;)`
`06:03.01`	`benjk`	`YDL 4 is based on Fedora, should work`
`06:03.17`	`benjk`	`and Digium did the porting`
`06:03.30`	`asterboy`	`interesting.`
`06:03.40`	`asterboy`	`they ported YDL for Mac?`
`06:03.44`	`benjk`	`the company that's behind YDL (Terrasoft Solutions) paid Digium to do it`
`06:03.55`	`benjk`	`that was a few years ago`
`06:04.04`	`benjk`	`but it still works`
`06:04.09`	`asterboy`	`never stop learning something new.`
`06:05.18`	`benjk`	`no DIgium ported Asterisk and Zaptel to (or lets say they tweaked it so it would work on) YDL`
`06:05.38`	`benjk`	`YDL is Terrasoft's child`
`06:05.46`	`drumkilla`	`and probably more accurately, powerpc linux`
`06:05.49`	`drumkilla`	`:)`
`06:05.52`	`benjk`	`but based on Red Hat, now based on Fedora`
`06:06.38`	`asterboy`	`so is there a different version for YDL or the current version works generically with all +YDL???`
`06:06.48`	`benjk`	`well, I think there is a guy, Ben Herrenschmid (?) who is the LinuxPPC kernel guardian`
`06:07.28`	`benjk`	`I have tested many different versions of Asterisk with YDL, never found one what didn't work`
`06:07.41`	`benjk`	`but Zaptel didn't like YDL 3.0`
`06:07.59`	`benjk`	`3.0.1 fixed the problem though, whatever it was`
`06:08.03`	`asterboy`	`have you tried it with gui? Speed ok?`
`06:08.24`	`benjk`	`no, I never install GUI stuff on Asterisk servers`
`06:08.33`	`benjk`	`unless its MacOS X`
`06:09.42`	`trixter`	`moo`
`06:09.52`	`asterboy`	`lol`
`06:09.55`	`benjk`	`hi trixter`
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`06:10.08`	`trixter`	`the sacramento asterisk users group meets tomorrow at 7pm. more details goto http://www.sacaug.org/`
`06:10.12`	`asterboy`	`I don't like gui, just want an idea of processing performance.`
`06:10.14`	`trixter`	`benjk: hows it goin?`
`06:10.33`	`benjk`	`good and yourself?`
`06:10.37`	`asterboy`	`benjk just sold me on Mac.`
`06:10.46`	`asterboy`	`Last time I touched one was ....`
`06:11.09`	`asterboy`	`...early 1980s`
`06:11.21`	`benjk`	`asterboy: fair enough, I just don't know cause I never installed one on those boxes`
`06:11.38`	`trixter`	`I am highly considering getting OSX just havent yet`
`06:11.46`	`trixter`	`getting a new system tomorrow so maybe I will then`
`06:11.59`	`asterboy`	`for $14...no irq issues...and 80Gb drive...6 pci slots....ummmmm.`
`06:12.08`	`asterboy`	`...I'll give it try. ;)`
`06:12.08`	`benjk`	`Of course you shouldnt expect to be doing a lot of G729 channels with transcoding on that 300MHz box ;-)`
`06:12.21`	`trixter`	`osx has a lot of appeal for me and has for a while, but I just havent done anything.. somewhere I have tiger for x86 so I can play with that for a while`
`06:13.15`	`benjk`	`trixter: asterboy wants to use multiple FXO cards in a single machine, so for him its a vintage Mac with Yellow Dog Linux to avoid IRQ issues`
`06:13.44`	`asterboy`	`4 fxo clone cards at $9 = $36 + $14 = $50`
`06:13.54`	`asterboy`	`not a bad price for the capability.`
`06:14.15`	`trixter`	`you can get 4 cards to your door for that?`
`06:14.29`	`trixter`	`on ebay the only guy I know that reliably sells em (from walnut creek) its $17 incl shipping`
`06:14.30`	`benjk`	`what about shipping?`
`06:14.37`	`kuku5`	`Is there any good configuration software ( that works nicely with cisco 7960 )`
`06:14.46`	`kuku5`	`to buidl the extensions, sip, and other configs ?`
`06:14.57`	`benjk`	`yeah, its called vi`
`06:15.01`	`kuku5`	`fuck`
`06:15.04`	`trixter`	`I have one from that guy, so they do work, although to guarantee its the same guy I would have to see the ad, but he has like 4500 feedback or something`
`06:15.07`	`kuku5`	`so i hjave to write my own ?`
`06:15.19`	`trixter`	`apt-get install emacs21-nox`
`06:15.22`	`trixter`	`works VERY well`
`06:15.23`	`trixter`	`:)`
`06:15.42`	`benjk`	`trixter, I know who you mean, some Indian sounding nick, right?!`
`06:16.13`	`asterboy`	`Add $30 for shipping 4 cards.`
`06:16.17`	`benjk`	`kuku, you don;'t have to write your own front end, just edit the config files by hand`
`06:16.25`	`trixter`	`nkans`
`06:16.27`	`trixter`	`http://cgi.ebay.com/Digium-Wildcard-X100P-OEM-FXO-PCI-Card-Asterisk-PBX_W0QQitemZ5836093256QQcategoryZ61841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem`
`06:16.34`	`trixter`	`that guy, its like $17 to your door in the US`
`06:16.47`	`trixter`	`but multiple cards are cheaper on shipping than a single so they do go down in bulk`
`06:17.06`	`trixter`	`he is like 2 hours from me it would have been faster for me to drive down there and get it in person :P`
`06:17.22`	`benjk`	`I thought he charges an extra 9 USD for shipping per item`
`06:17.30`	`asterboy`	`ya thats who I used...costs more to Canada.`
`06:17.33`	`trixter`	`kuku5: what did you envision for a front end? amp does it`
`06:17.36`	`asterboy`	`Just installed his card tonight.`
`06:17.59`	`asterboy`	`works great...but not sure what I'll get with IRQ shareing going on with both FXO cards.`
`06:18.10`	`trixter`	`worked although it registered as a clone not a real one like he claims`
`06:18.20`	`asterboy`	`no he only charges $5 more`
`06:18.27`	`benjk`	`there are no clones`
`06:18.33`	`trixter`	`other than that it worked, I mean come on its basically a voice modem, perhaps with slightly less - especially in firmware`
`06:18.46`	`benjk`	`all those cards are just soft modems`
`06:19.35`	`tengulre`	`anybody is saler of asterisk?`
`06:19.40`	`asterboy`	`intel winmodem iirc`
`06:19.45`	`denon`	`asterisk is open source :)`
`06:19.47`	`denon`	`you dont buy it`
`06:19.56`	`benjk`	`the differences in quality are coming from the fact that the chipset isn';t made anymore and manufacturers in China have started to use refurbished chips to make new boards`
`06:20.01`	`asterboy`	`yes... I'll sell it to you for only $4000`
`06:20.08`	`asterboy`	`I'll even include the source!!1`
`06:20.16`	`benjk`	`but that is difficult to spot anyway`
`06:20.29`	`trixter`	`benjk: I said it showed up as a clone ... as in Found a Wildcard FXO: Generic Clone`
`06:20.33`	`denon`	`asterboy: and I'll make $100,000 by suing you for GPL violations <G>`
`06:20.46`	`asterboy`	`shhhhhh`
`06:20.49`	`benjk`	`but that is coming from the Zaptel code`
`06:20.55`	`benjk`	`not from the card`
`06:20.58`	`asterboy`	`no one has to know...(offers kick back)`
`06:21.15`	`denon`	`75% please :)`
`06:21.16`	`trixter`	`asterisk is dual licensed its not always open source`
`06:21.18`	`hypa7ia`	`denon: you know that doesn't violate the gpl, right?`
`06:21.18`	`asterboy`	`lol`
`06:21.41`	`denon`	`hypa7ia: selling asterisk as if it was a commercial product he owned intellectual rights to sell?`
`06:22.11`	`trixter`	`and you can sell a distribution, there is no requirement that you give everything away free, you just have to give the code with whatever gpl stuff you give out.. if free of charge were the case redhat wouldnt have had their stuff in stores`
`06:22.16`	`hypa7ia`	`denon: anyone can take the GPL version of asterisk`
`06:22.21`	`hypa7ia`	`with changes or wahtever`
`06:22.28`	`hypa7ia`	`they just have to include the source :)`
`06:22.50`	`trixter`	`benjk: yeah.. regardless it shows up as a clone :)`
`06:23.05`	`denon`	`ah well, doesnt matter -- my blackmail got me my kickback`
`06:23.10`	`benjk`	`yes but that doesn';t mean anything`
`06:23.12`	`trixter`	`the ebay page said it didnt do that, that was what I was speciifcally commenting on`
`06:23.27`	`trixter`	`that was the only thing that was different from what he said, although his explanation of how to get it working is a bit off`
`06:23.49`	`trixter`	`other than that little fact it worked as described`
`06:23.53`	`hypa7ia`	`denon: now, trademark stuff is another question`
`06:24.23`	`benjk`	`it only means that the zaptel driver looked at some PCI device id and decided it is not one that had been modified by Digium to detect one of the cards that went through their retail channel`
`06:24.29`	`trixter`	`hey that guy doesnt put his screenshot in his listing anymore`
`06:24.55`	`trixter`	`wonder if people bitched that his screenshot said that it registered as an x100p directly and it doesnt relaly`
`06:25.02`	`benjk`	`ah, ok`
`06:25.19`	`benjk`	`well in that case you can complain or send the card back`
`06:25.35`	`benjk`	`and get a full refund`
`06:25.38`	`trixter`	`I didnt care it functioned as advertised, calls go in and out without problem :)`
`06:25.45`	`benjk`	`and if he doesn't comply, sue him for fraud`
`06:25.53`	`benjk`	`:-)`
`06:26.07`	`trixter`	`I am not paying $100 for the screen to print 'x100p' when the module loads, if I really wanted that I would edit the code :P`
`06:26.51`	`benjk`	`you never paid 100$ for the hardware, you paid -say- 95$ for the installation support that came with the hardware`
`06:27.08`	`trixter`	`heh`
`06:27.13`	`asterboy`	`interesting...I was looking for the screen shot...yes its gone.`
`06:27.18`	`asterboy`	`shows up as a clone.`
`06:27.24`	`trixter`	`well I was looking at retail prices of a x100p and they were about $120`
`06:27.27`	`asterboy`	`heh...works none the less.`
`06:27.37`	`asterboy`	`not bad for $9`
`06:27.38`	`benjk`	`you could call Digium up and say "pleas help" and they would log into your box and make it all work for you, even build zaptel for you if that's what you got stuck at`
`06:27.46`	`asterboy`	`too bad the shipping is outrageous.`
`06:28.06`	`trixter`	`benjk: really? that would be cool cause I could make it so they cant properly build anything! :P`
`06:28.13`	`asterboy`	`now if I can only get the tdm cloned :)`
`06:28.18`	`benjk`	`so for those who needed that help this was a pretty good deal`
`06:28.33`	`asterboy`	`ata fxs from grandstream is cheap.`
`06:28.39`	`asterboy`	`$40`
`06:28.55`	`benjk`	`trixter: you are a nasty bastard :-)`
`06:30.05`	`trixter`	`:D`
`06:30.09`	`trixter`	`how hard is it to break gcc?`
`06:30.12`	`trixter`	`hehe`
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`06:30.39`	`kuku5`	`trixter: I dont want amp - I just want to modify the config with a front end`
`06:31.06`	`asterboy`	`nkans gave positive feedback on ebay for me...I like it when sellers take the time to do that.`
`06:32.37`	`trixter`	`kuku5: then write your own, or rip the code and get a jump on writing your own`
`06:33.04`	`trixter`	`asterboy: yeah most sellers dont like to do that, but they almost demand that you give them feedback`
`06:33.16`	`benjk`	`kuku5: wanna port my tempate engine to Linux, then you can write a very nice front end yourself`
`06:33.34`	`trixter`	`nkans is one of the very few sellers that while I have had almost no contact with I would recommend`
`06:33.43`	`benjk`	`http://www.sunrise-tel.com/STSTemplateEngine.html`
`06:33.48`	`trixter`	`I got what I ordered for the price I agreed in the time stated and it worked exactly as advertised`
`06:34.14`	`asterboy`	`Anyone selling S100M modules?`
`06:34.20`	`Qwell`	`trixter: yeah, I bought my fxo from him`
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`06:39.44`	`asterboy`	`Good writeup on the X100P Clone: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/X100P+clone`
`06:40.15`	`Qwell`	`summarized: barely worth the $10`
`06:41.15`	`asterboy`	`are actually Intel V92 Data/Fax/Voice modem cards`
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`06:44.22`	`asterboy`	`Modems with the following chipsets should work as an X100P clone; Intel 537EP, Ambient MD3200, Motorola 62802`
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`06:50.26`	`benjk`	`Intel 537EP WILL NOT WORK`
`06:50.31`	`benjk`	`I have one here`
`06:50.35`	`benjk`	`tried it`
`06:51.25`	`benjk`	`And Intel's page on the EP says so too, it explicitly says that the EP series are not suitable with softmodem applications/drivers`
`06:51.28`	`asterboy`	`Now some company produces fake Intel 537EP card.`
`06:52.00`	`asterboy`	`Get PCISniffer at http://www.miray.de/products/sat.pcisniffer.html. and ask retailer to check the card with bootiup by PCISniffer. It shows vender id ! Fake chipset modem shows PCTel.`
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`06:52.55`	`asterboy`	`Simply carefully remove R13 and R19 with a soldering iron.`
`06:53.01`	`wiseguy_`	`helow`
`06:54.02`	`asterboy`	`http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-June/050315.html`
`06:54.44`	`trixter`	`superman II is on and I just noticed how bad the special effects are.. course I havent seen it for 25 years ... heh`
`06:55.19`	`trixter`	`asterboy: my guess is those two resistors (and prolly with capacitors that are isolated once the resistors are removed) form a filter which is undesirable but I could be wrong`
`06:55.38`	`asterboy`	`interesting`
`06:55.47`	`trixter`	`removing SMC stuff is easier with a heat gun rather than a soldering iron, but a really fine tip can be used`
`06:57.28`	`asterboy`	`thats a good tip.`
`06:57.36`	`asterboy`	`no pun intended ;)`
`06:59.50`	`trixter`	`hehe`
`07:00.13`	`trixter`	`oh and a good magnifying lens with light is very helpful but not required.. just makes it easier, for 2 resistors not an issue`
`07:00.18`	`asterboy`	`The Goonies is on.`
`07:00.24`	`trixter`	`but if you are doing more then you may want to consider it`
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`07:00.36`	`asterboy`	`for sure.`
`07:00.56`	`trixter`	`in theory you could set up an operation to bulk purchase those modems and toss em on ebay`
`07:01.05`	`trixter`	`you would be an original doing that! oh wait ...`
`07:01.05`	`trixter`	`:P`
`07:01.17`	`asterboy`	`lol`
`07:01.33`	`asterboy`	`make money on the shipping too!`
`07:01.51`	`asterboy`	`no way that costs $17 to ship to canada in an envelope.`
`07:01.56`	`asterboy`	`more like $5`
`07:02.01`	`rogers_dimension`	`#asterisk What About anabling Video conferencing in asterisk`
`07:02.44`	`drumkilla`	`video conferencing is not currently supported`
`07:03.31`	`drumkilla`	`i'd probably work on it if I had video phones :)`
`07:03.35`	`asterboy`	`you could make a callerID database and trigger an event to pop up a picture with moving lips?`
`07:03.38`	`asterboy`	`:P`
`07:04.07`	`drumkilla`	`who wants to donate some video phones to me to work on video conferencing? hmmmmmm? :D`
`07:06.01`	`benjk`	`is that what this is called these days?`
`07:06.20`	`trixter`	`I dont have a problem with high shipping fees as long as they are stated and that is what you pay.. I look at it as total price.. ebay doesnt charge fees on shipping but they do the item price so it works out better to have higher shipping`
`07:07.10`	`trixter`	`PRON SITES ALL OVER WANT ASTERISK TO SUPPORT VIDEO PHONES SO THEY CAN SELL VVOIP!`
`07:07.12`	`trixter`	`:P`
`07:07.32`	`benjk`	`isnt; it POIP`
`07:07.43`	`benjk`	`or POOIP`
`07:08.02`	`drumkilla`	`trixter: that's a good point`
`07:08.10`	`drumkilla`	`i should contact some to see if they'll give me some equipment, hehe`
`07:08.13`	`benjk`	`XXXOIP`
`07:08.17`	`drumkilla`	`and by equipment, i mean video phones.`
`07:08.38`	`benjk`	`ah, is that what it is called these days?`
`07:09.10`	`drumkilla`	`yes.`
`07:09.13`	`drumkilla`	`:)`
`07:09.58`	`benjk`	`now you've scared off wasim`
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`07:10.30`	`drumkilla`	`oops`
`07:10.52`	`benjk`	`wasim, come back, we all love you !`
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`07:15.21`	`trixter`	`benjk: haha xxxoip.com`
`07:15.24`	`trixter`	`now that is funny`
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`07:18.09`	`benjk`	`doesn't seem to load here. what's funny about it?`
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`07:19.38`	`trixter`	`I dunno maybe its cuase I am tired it just seemed relaly funny`
`07:19.49`	`trixter`	`partly the whole thread that preceeded it but meh`
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`07:19.53`	`viralhirpara`	`hi, can anybody help me in video conferencing`
`07:19.56`	`viralhirpara`	`???`
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`07:20.00`	`benjk`	`ah, you mean that it exists?`
`07:20.20`	`viralhirpara`	`no i want to make it enable`
`07:20.32`	`benjk`	`:-D`
`07:20.37`	`lme`	`hi you happy people !`
`07:20.43`	`viralhirpara`	`put it down, should we use h263 coded`
`07:20.50`	`viralhirpara`	`to send video data?`
`07:20.52`	`benjk`	`:-D :-D :-D`
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`07:22.35`	`viralhirpara`	`any idea about video streaming in asterisk???`
`07:22.45`	`HimalRRana`	`hi all`
`07:24.11`	`benjk`	`I don;t think there's such a thing`
`07:24.20`	`trixter`	`Skype video-over-IPfor Linux rumored near http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS9547010460.html`
`07:25.32`	`viralhirpara`	`you are right`
`07:25.35`	`benjk`	`You want a free video streaming server, get this one ...`
`07:25.37`	`benjk`	`http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming`
`07:25.44`	`viralhirpara`	`ok`
`07:26.04`	`viralhirpara`	`but what i am trying to send video stream using asterisk channel`
`07:26.19`	`viralhirpara`	`like other one for example gsm, ulaw, alaw`
`07:26.49`	`trixter`	`I suggest using a video codec as your first step`
`07:27.02`	`rogers_dimension`	`Ya i agree`
`07:27.10`	`HimalRRana`	`does any one know how to handle h263 video stream (recording, playback)`
`07:27.14`	`JunK-Y`	`h264`
`07:27.38`	`JunK-Y`	`(263+)`
`07:27.49`	`trixter`	`h263++ h264 whats the difference :P`
`07:28.46`	`JunK-Y`	`heheh , i dont know the diff between 263+ and 263`
`07:28.48`	`HimalRRana`	`there is format_h263.c file which shows the functions to handle h263 files, but i dont know how to use it.....`
`07:29.42`	`JunK-Y`	`the same way for other codec?`
`07:30.20`	`HimalRRana`	`currently asterisk is only working in PASS THROUGH mode for video calls.`
`07:30.26`	`benjk`	`BTW, Himal, I wouldn;t log in as root to run applications such as IRC clients`
`07:30.48`	`HimalRRana`	`thanku benjk`
`07:30.50`	`benjk`	`that's almost like asking for trouble`
`07:30.53`	`HimalRRana`	`i m loging out`
`07:32.31`	`trixter`	`benjk: but 'root' doesnt have any special meaning in dos! :P`
`07:33.17`	`benjk`	`does DOS even have such a thing as users/logins?`
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`07:34.14`	`benjk`	`another one ;-)`
`07:34.18`	`benjk`	`hahaha`
`07:37.31`	`drray`	`are we doing the "it's bogus that asterisk installs as root" thing again?`
`07:38.57`	`benjk`	`no`
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`07:39.04`	`drray`	`:)`
`07:39.33`	`benjk`	`I merely pointed out that it may not be such a good idea to log in as root and run an IRC client`
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`07:39.43`	`drray`	`yes, I know`
`07:39.50`	`drray`	`I was funning you`
`07:40.03`	`benjk`	`ok, guilty as charged then ;-)`
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`07:44.03`	`viralhirpara`	`hey ben, why its not good to run irc lient as root`
`07:44.15`	`viralhirpara`	`Its it for security reasons.........`
`07:45.25`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`viralhirpara: perhaps because everyone on the same irc server as you can send data to you? And if your irc client has an overflow (or similar) bug it might be possible to exploit it remotely and gain root :)`
`07:49.30`	`drray`	`that's like saying that it's possible for someone to hold a bitmap up to a webcam and cause a security exploit because of a buffer bug in the jpeg code.`
`07:50.18`	`newl`	`are you saying it isn't? :)`
`07:50.28`	`drray`	`no.. :)`
`07:51.48`	`magic_1`	`hi all`
`07:52.11`	`magic_1`	`drray ,wondering is you can help me with some stuff`
`07:52.26`	`drray`	`but I'm going to FedEx my server to the guy that comes up with that.. since he clearly owns my box`
`07:52.37`	`drray`	`magic - maybe`
`07:52.43`	`magic_1`	`thanx`
`07:54.24`	`magic_1`	`is it possible ,to make a extension call all the phones on your asterisk`
`07:54.30`	`magic_1`	`doesnt make sens i know`
`07:54.45`	`drray`	`you can call multiple extensions with the same dial command`
`07:55.08`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`drray: shrug That's the only real argument I've heard about not running an irc client as root :)`
`07:55.33`	`drray`	`Ray- I don't run anything as root, I don't even run most of the time as admin on windows 2000.. I hear you.. :)`
`07:55.40`	`magic_1`	`cause i want to be able to call all the extension at the same time from one extension us that possible`
`07:55.43`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`heh`
`07:56.13`	`drray`	`If I had to guess, the don't run IRC as root was to make it harder to keep people from spoofing IRC`
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`07:56.26`	`drray`	`launching multiple clients with bogus information`
`07:56.48`	`drray`	`magic - do you want all to answer? or just first available person?`
`07:57.16`	`magic_1`	`well just one has to answer but all must have the oppertunity to do so`
`07:57.51`	`drray`	`magic, then you can specify multiple targets with the dial command`
`07:58.26`	`drray`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Dial`
`07:58.46`	`magic_1`	`nice nice thanx bigtime`
`07:58.51`	`magic_1`	`i will check it out`
`07:59.02`	`drray`	`and the wiki is your friend for other asterisk goodness`
`07:59.22`	`magic_1`	`heheheh`
`07:59.26`	`magic_1`	`thanx`
`08:00.16`	`magic_1`	`ls`
`08:00.23`	`magic_1`	`sorry hehehe`
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`08:09.40`	`asterboy`	`night al`
`08:09.53`	`magic_1`	`cheers`
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`08:13.32`	`viralhirpara`	`hi all`
`08:13.49`	`magic_1`	`lo all`
`08:14.13`	`viralhirpara`	`do we send h263 data using asterisk??? any idea`
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`08:14.30`	`viralhirpara`	`there is one file format_h263.c`
`08:14.37`	`viralhirpara`	`but i dont know how to use it`
`08:16.28`	`viralhirpara`	`i found that asterisk is using video stream in pass thru mode`
`08:16.54`	`viralhirpara`	`it directly passing UDP packets to clients`
`08:17.11`	`drray`	`I have no experience with that`
`08:17.26`	`viralhirpara`	`oh ok`
`08:17.39`	`drray`	`although I think what you describe is a good thing`
`08:17.51`	`viralhirpara`	`but do you know that how can we convert h263 to ulaw`
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`08:18.14`	`drray`	`video to audio? or video ulaw?`
`08:18.15`	`viralhirpara`	`bcoz most of transmission is done by asterisk in ulaw`
`08:18.23`	`viralhirpara`	`video ulaw`
`08:18.41`	`drray`	`if I had to guess (and it's a guess) the h263 is SUPPOSED to be seperate`
`08:18.53`	`drray`	`it's RTP instead of SIP`
`08:18.59`	`drray`	`but I'm out on a limb`
`08:19.23`	`viralhirpara`	`that's right but i want to send video to other client`
`08:19.34`	`viralhirpara`	`for that there is not channle maintainance in asterisk`
`08:19.40`	`Astinus-`	`a little bit offtopic perhaps somebody can help: do commercial PBX systems (from e.g. ericsson) usually have an API for accessing the pbx data?`
`08:20.20`	`viralhirpara`	`sorry, i dont know about it`
`08:20.37`	`drray`	`viral - are you trying to stream to a non phone?`
`08:20.44`	`drray`	`like maybe VLC would be better for you?`
`08:21.07`	`viralhirpara`	`yeah, i have tried it`
`08:21.07`	`magic_1`	`yeah that is what i use and it works like a bomb`
`08:21.53`	`viralhirpara`	`but asterisk has problem with playing of video`
`08:22.12`	`viralhirpara`	`i was unable to play video`
`08:22.16`	`viralhirpara`	`using asterisk`
`08:22.37`	`viralhirpara`	`here, what we do is we send video output to /dev/stdout`
`08:22.54`	`viralhirpara`	`thru commandline vlc`
`08:23.11`	`viralhirpara`	`but asterisk is not able to understand`
`08:23.12`	`viralhirpara`	`it`
`08:24.15`	`viralhirpara`	`And also here we are using eyebeam xten phone`
`08:24.22`	`viralhirpara`	`which supports video`
`08:25.16`	`viralhirpara`	`r u getting me???`
`08:29.26`	`drray`	`yes`
`08:29.30`	`drray`	`work pager went off`
`08:29.37`	`Qwell`	`Isn't h263 just passthrough?`
`08:29.44`	`drray`	`that's what I was thinking`
`08:29.56`	`Qwell`	`You need asterisk to be able to see it, from some other device.`
`08:30.07`	`viralhirpara`	`means???`
`08:30.16`	`viralhirpara`	`can't we do coding???`
`08:30.23`	`Qwell`	`means I don't think you can stream video to asterisk`
`08:30.34`	`Qwell`	`unless another device (say, a phone) is sending it`
`08:31.01`	`viralhirpara`	`but can we load h263 codec to asterisk?`
`08:31.06`	`Qwell`	`sure`
`08:31.13`	`viralhirpara`	`how??`
`08:31.30`	`Qwell`	`unless you noload'ed it, it's probably loaded`
`08:31.56`	`viralhirpara`	`same like gsm, ulaw, g711`
`08:31.59`	`viralhirpara`	`??`
`08:32.00`	`Qwell`	`yes`
`08:32.29`	`Qwell`	`I guess, technically, you MIGHT be able to use something like ControlPlayback, but...`
`08:32.36`	`Qwell`	`ymmv`
`08:32.41`	`drray`	`so qwell, could I stream h263 to asterisk from VLC then stream from asterisk to another VLC client?`
`08:32.44`	`drray`	`in theory`
`08:32.56`	`Qwell`	`not unless vlc understood something like SIP`
`08:33.01`	`viralhirpara`	`i have tried that drray`
`08:33.04`	`Qwell`	`You need a channel or something`
`08:33.15`	`viralhirpara`	`but asterisk was unable to understand it`
`08:33.17`	`Qwell`	`This is, of course, all just speculation`
`08:33.20`	`drray`	`yeah`
`08:33.29`	`viralhirpara`	`have u seen app_mp3.c file`
`08:33.31`	`viralhirpara`	`??`
`08:33.42`	`viralhirpara`	`like same i have tried`
`08:33.43`	`Qwell`	`format_mp3?`
`08:33.50`	`viralhirpara`	`no app_mp3.c`
`08:33.59`	`Qwell`	`nope, can't say I have`
`08:34.00`	`viralhirpara`	`here u get command like execl`
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`08:36.18`	`Qwell`	`well, if that's what you want to do, you'll probably have to write some code`
`08:36.46`	`drray`	`tcp over sip tunnel`
`08:36.47`	`drray`	`:)`
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`08:39.07`	`Qwell`	`viralhirpara: the reason mpg123 works the way it does, is because of the -s arg`
`08:39.36`	`Qwell`	`Chances are, you'll want to read the files directly...`
`08:39.59`	`Qwell`	`I do think ControlPlayback might just do the trick though...`
`08:40.17`	`Qwell`	`hell, maybe even just Playback, technically`
`08:40.28`	`Qwell`	`(ControlPlayback is way cooler though)`
`08:40.34`	`drray`	`I wanted to stream tv through asterisk`
`08:40.38`	`drray`	`h264`
`08:40.56`	`Qwell`	`write a codec for it`
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`08:42.20`	`morale`	`i guess i should try to get cdr and voicemail going tonight with mysql.. postgresql works fine with cdr, but voicemail nada.`
`08:44.50`	`littleall`	`hello, when i use Dial(Zap/g1...), is it possible to specify the algorithm of reusing zap channels?`
`08:45.51`	`Qwell`	`okay, yeah...it looks like you can use Playback, or anything that calls ast_streamfile, really`
`08:48.41`	`littleall`	`QWell, is it possible to specify the algorithm of reusing of zap channels? because some times, the switch is not ready when asterisk reuse the channel just used`
`08:49.08`	`Qwell`	`littleall: use chanisavail`
`08:49.55`	`littleall`	`example, if zap/1 is just hangup, and asterisk try to use the zap/1 again. But it seems that switch could be not ready.,`
`08:50.00`	`littleall`	`what is chanisavail?`
`08:50.25`	`Qwell`	`show application chanisavail`
`08:50.32`	`littleall`	`ok`
`08:51.43`	`littleall`	`QWell, did you encount this problem before?`
`08:53.42`	`Qwell`	`no`
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`09:01.24`	`drray`	`Qwell - I gave up on the h264, when I found out that VLC did 99% of what I wanted`
`09:04.04`	`magic_1`	`heheheheheh vlc is the best for that sort of thing`
`09:04.31`	`drray`	`well, we already have an asterisk system, so I thought maybe we could use asterisk to deliver tv`
`09:05.27`	`magic_1`	`what i would like to know is can u run vlc on a asterisk machine`
`09:05.56`	`drray`	`I think you could if it was a light weight asterisk server`
`09:06.10`	`drray`	`300 sip calls on a server`
`09:06.13`	`drray`	`would be no`
`09:06.55`	`drray`	`I have 177 zap channels in use, and I've never had more than 6 outside lines used at one time.. so my hardware requirements are lesser`
`09:07.19`	`magic_1`	`hhmmm`
`09:08.19`	`drray`	`the hauppauge 250 has an mpg encoder on it.. so that won't kill your cpu`
`09:08.58`	`magic_1`	`but could u use vlc to do streaming on asterisk ,just for the local network without any hassle`
`09:09.22`	`drray`	`I think that depends on your load on teh asterisk box`
`09:09.31`	`magic_1`	`makes sens`
`09:09.51`	`drray`	`my next project is to stream to a setop box of some sort`
`09:11.15`	`magic_1`	`i love vlc its the king of streaming as far as i'm concerened`
`09:11.19`	`magic_1`	`hehehe`
`09:11.24`	`magic_1`	`would like to try that as well`
`09:11.51`	`drray`	`I'm working on a pay per view system for work`
`09:12.06`	`drray`	`I might have you dial into the pbx to activate your movie`
`09:12.14`	`morale`	`anyone here have any experience setting up realtime and voicemail? i got asterisk talking via odbc to my pgsql database.. now i just need to get comedian_mail to actually look at it`
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`09:13.34`	`magic_1`	`that would be something to try hehehe`
`09:15.57`	`doushanes`	`does anyone have shoutcast streams working for MOH in asterisk 1.2? I can only find reference to pre 1.2 asterisk musiconhold.conf files and can't seem to get it to work.`
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`09:20.40`	`magic_1`	`drray, would u be dial a ring group as if it was a normal extension`
`09:22.32`	`drray`	`magic - I think I would dial an AGI script`
`09:22.49`	`drray`	`dial MOVIE from your hotel phone..`
`09:22.54`	`drray`	`press 1 for BATMAN BEGINS`
`09:24.16`	`magic_1`	`thanx`
`09:24.28`	`magic_1`	`nice example heheh`
`09:25.05`	`drray`	`well, I've been wrting it up to sell to bossman`
`09:25.06`	`drray`	`:)`
`09:26.30`	`magic_1`	`hehehehe nice`
`09:27.10`	`magic_1`	`drray ,quick q again i just got this error while trying to load my ztdummy mod got any advice`
`09:27.14`	`magic_1`	`[root@share src]# modprobe ztdummy`
`09:27.15`	`magic_1`	`Notice: Configuration file is /etc/zaptel.conf`
`09:27.15`	`magic_1`	`line 0: Unable to open master device '/dev/zap/ctl'`
`09:27.15`	`magic_1`	`1 error(s) detected`
`09:27.15`	`magic_1`	`FATAL: Error running install command for ztdummy`
`09:27.39`	`drray`	`magic - I don't use ztdummy, I have zaptel hardware for timing`
`09:27.42`	`bkw_`	`your device nodes don't exist`
`09:27.50`	`bkw_`	`create them`
`09:28.03`	`drray`	`hey bkw, how goes the war`
`09:28.05`	`drray`	`?`
`09:28.07`	`magic_1`	`hhmm i c`
`09:28.17`	`bkw_`	`I'm tired of fighting with ARIN`
`09:28.23`	`bkw_`	`I swear those people are hard to deal with`
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`09:28.29`	`magic_1`	`thanx for the help`
`09:28.40`	`knight_`	`heh`
`09:29.31`	`magic_1`	`i just saw the weirdest thing`
`09:29.37`	`bkw_`	`ARIN has some really stupid policies`
`09:30.03`	`magic_1`	`i try to run the command again and this time it worked ,well i'm not complainging heheheh`
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`09:37.25`	`digime`	`bkw: does openpbx have any DTMF issues?`
`09:38.51`	`digime`	`has anyone used plainvoip? how are they?`
`09:43.28`	`magic_1`	`yeah we use viop but what do u mean by plain voip`
`09:46.32`	`magic_1`	`bkw_, would i get the following error because i am using ztdummy and not a real pci card however it says that my asterisk is ready for use`
`09:46.36`	`magic_1`	`[ Booting...Dec 2 11:45:09 NOTICE[19275]: cdr.c:1185 do_reload: CDR simple logging enabled.`
`09:46.37`	`magic_1`	`.Dec 2 11:45:09 WARNING[19275]: res_musiconhold.c:833 moh_register: Unable to open pseudo channel for timing... Sound may be choppy.`
`09:46.37`	`magic_1`	`...........Dec 2 11:45:09 WARNING[19275]: chan_iax2.c:9544 load_module: Unable to open IAX timing interface: No such file or directory`
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`09:47.41`	`magic_1`	`if u have any advice it would be greatly appreciated`
`09:47.45`	`magic_1`	`bkw_, would i get the following error because i am using ztdummy and not a real pci card however it says that my asterisk is ready for use`
`09:47.48`	`magic_1`	`bkw_, would i get the following error because i am using ztdummy and not a real pci card however it says that my asterisk is ready for use`
`09:47.55`	`bkw_`	`do you have to ask 4 times in a row?`
`09:48.11`	`magic_1`	`sorry my bottun got stuck`
`09:48.16`	`magic_1`	`[ Booting...Dec 2 11:45:09 NOTICE[19275]: cdr.c:1185 do_reload: CDR simple logging enabled.`
`09:48.16`	`magic_1`	`.Dec 2 11:45:09 WARNING[19275]: res_musiconhold.c:833 moh_register: Unable to open pseudo channel for timing... Sound may be choppy.`
`09:48.16`	`magic_1`	`...........Dec 2 11:45:09 WARNING[19275]: chan_iax2.c:9544 load_module: Unable to open IAX timing interface: No such file or directory`
`09:48.27`	`bkw_`	`asterisk -`
`09:48.29`	`bkw_`	`er`
`09:48.30`	`bkw_`	`asterisk -r`
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`09:48.30`	`bkw_`	`stop now`
`09:48.33`	`bkw_`	`rmmod ztdummy`
`09:48.37`	`bkw_`	`modprobe ztdummy`
`09:48.45`	`doushanes`	`does anyone have shoutcast streams working for MOH in asterisk 1.2? I can only find reference to pre 1.2 asterisk musiconhold.conf files and can't seem to get it to work.`
`09:48.50`	`bkw_`	`your stuff in /dev still isn't working`
`09:48.58`	`magic_1`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:49.04`	`bkw_`	`doushanes, not recommended`
`09:49.13`	`bkw_`	`using shoutcast for MOH is stupid and wasteful`
`09:50.06`	`doushanes`	`due noted`
`09:50.32`	`bkw_`	`you're better off with either mpg123 or native moh`
`09:50.35`	`magic_1`	`thanks i appreciate it`
`09:50.44`	`Qwell`	`bkw_: y0`
`09:51.13`	`morale`	`how do i get realtime+voicemail to actually talk between eachother or is there no support/functionality for that yet in asterisk?`
`09:51.36`	`bkw_`	`realtime+voicemail now thats something that you can laugh at`
`09:52.21`	`Qwell`	`bed time`
`09:52.29`	`bkw_`	`can't`
`09:52.44`	`bkw_`	`and myip kvm fried`
`09:52.51`	`Qwell`	`nice`
`09:52.53`	`bkw_`	`waiting on peeps to get up and go to the datacenter to smack it`
`09:53.05`	`magic_1`	`bkw_,should i type those commands in the same order as u`
`09:53.07`	`bkw_`	`that makes two ip kvm's that have fried in the past two weeks`
`09:53.15`	`Qwell`	`bkw_: what brand?`
`09:53.19`	`bkw_`	`Avocent`
`09:53.25`	`morale`	`bkw_: which dc do you work for?`
`09:53.33`	`bkw_`	`dc?`
`09:53.37`	`Qwell`	`data center`
`09:53.51`	`bkw_`	`oh I don't work for one. This is our MCI colo in Ashburn`
`09:54.00`	`morale`	`ah`
`09:54.14`	`bkw_`	`its one of three`
`09:54.20`	`bkw_`	`I'm going to be in Ashburn next week`
`09:54.32`	`bkw_`	`I might swing by the ARIN office and kick some butt`
`09:54.41`	`bkw_`	`VA isn't that large of a state`
`09:54.48`	`Qwell`	`bkw_: Mind if I ask you some scaling questions tomorrow or something? I'm sure you guys do a bit...`
`09:55.02`	`magic_1`	`bkw_,must i be in asterisk when i type rmmod ztdummy`
`09:55.14`	`Qwell`	`magic_1: no`
`09:55.23`	`magic_1`	`makes sens i thought so`
`09:55.34`	`Qwell`	`bkw_: I need some tips/hints on having multiple servers`
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`09:58.47`	`bkw_`	`Qwell, as in?`
`09:59.41`	`Qwell`	`bkw_: well, I don't have the time to go into it too far right now, but, specifically, I was wondering how you were balancing like iax2 traffic. sip is easy, with ser, so I'll not even bother with that`
`09:59.54`	`bkw_`	`run far and fast from IAX2`
`10:00.00`	`Qwell`	`no, I know`
`10:00.01`	`bkw_`	`its not service provider material`
`10:00.15`	`bkw_`	`your best bet is to use SER for the core of your network`
`10:00.26`	`Qwell`	`we aren't gonna be doing much sip`
`10:00.34`	`Qwell`	`probably sccp mostly...`
`10:01.18`	`bkw_`	`why sccp?`
`10:01.22`	`Qwell`	`7970's`
`10:01.42`	`bkw_`	`do those work with any channel drivers for asterisk?`
`10:01.46`	`Qwell`	`sure`
`10:01.54`	`Qwell`	`we use the berlios.de chan_sccp`
`10:02.05`	`Qwell`	`works great, actually`
`10:02.16`	`Qwell`	`added realtime support for it and such`
`10:02.34`	`drray`	`I need to break down and get sccp working with my 7960's`
`10:02.40`	`drray`	`I covet a 7970`
`10:02.42`	`Qwell`	`drray: it's surprisingly easy`
`10:02.45`	`bkw_`	`drumkilla, use SIP`
`10:02.55`	`drray`	`I am surprisingly lazy`
`10:03.03`	`bkw_`	`use SIP`
`10:03.04`	`Qwell`	`then use sip, heh`
`10:03.30`	`bkw_`	`its not showing me any love`
`10:03.51`	`Qwell`	`anyhow, off to bed, bkw_ I'll see if I can find you sometime in the next few days, if you're up to it.`
`10:03.55`	`bkw_`	`ok`
`10:04.00`	`bkw_`	`i'll be in Ashburn all next week`
`10:04.07`	`bkw_`	`drop kicking our network into shape`
`10:04.14`	`*** join/#asterisk bziherl (n=bziherl_@195.246.6.131)`
`10:04.19`	`Qwell`	`it's no real rush`
`10:04.28`	`magic_1`	`anyone here using fedora core`
`10:04.31`	`drray`	`but I want to make a yahztee game`
`10:04.56`	`drray`	`for the 7970`
`10:05.08`	`Qwell`	`make one with the xml services`
`10:05.12`	`drray`	`yes`
`10:05.14`	`Qwell`	`easy`
`10:05.24`	`magic_1`	`drray are u`
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`10:05.33`	`drray`	`yes, I run fedora`
`10:05.38`	`*** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@80.239.107.70)`
`10:05.41`	`magic_1`	`nice, i need some help`
`10:05.50`	`drray`	`FC3`
`10:05.56`	`morale`	`does anyone use a database for their voicemail users?`
`10:05.56`	`magic_1`	`same here`
`10:06.34`	`bziherl`	`does anyone know whether is it possible to prioritize agents in a queue. i would like to make queues where certain agents would answer most calls (cause they are more experienced) and others less?`
`10:06.56`	`magic_1`	`i need to know is it possible to give a user permisssion or root capablitly in x-windows wihtout having to restart`
`10:07.22`	`drray`	`run the application from shell?`
`10:07.34`	`drray`	`sudo or su, then run it?`
`10:07.55`	`*** join/#asterisk skeffling (n=Andrew_H@andrew.1ec.aaisp.net.uk)`
`10:08.05`	`drray`	`actually, I don't know if that will work`
`10:08.15`	`drray`	`the xwindows session is not root is it?`
`10:08.21`	`magic_1`	`sorry i need to do this in the GUI cause the shell option will work`
`10:08.26`	`magic_1`	`no it is not`
`10:08.40`	`magic_1`	`that is why i need to find out how to do it`
`10:08.52`	`morale`	`ctrl+alt+bksp?`
`10:09.46`	`drray`	`I know that some applications (in gnome) ask me for a root password on start`
`10:10.27`	`magic_1`	`cause i need to add some rules so that my zaptel ztdummy will work but i need permissions to do so`
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`10:10.44`	`drray`	`you don't have root on the box?`
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`10:28.25`	`RoyK`	`wtf?`
`10:28.25`	`RoyK`	`Dec 2 11:28:11 WARNING[13144]: chan_sip.c:2540 sip_write: Asked to transmit frame type 8, while native formats is 256 (read/write = 256/256)`
`10:28.49`	`bkw_`	`sounds like magic_1 doesn't know jack about linux`
`10:29.01`	`bkw_`	`RoyK, I have seen that before`
`10:29.04`	`bkw_`	`nice buglet`
`10:29.34`	`bkw_`	`you playing a alaw file by chance?`
`10:29.42`	`RoyK`	`client trying to dial out`
`10:29.49`	`RoyK`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:29.49`	`RoyK`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:29.56`	`RoyK`	`hm`
`10:30.13`	`bkw_`	`I'm pretty sure they broke the codec order stuff again`
`10:30.21`	`bkw_`	`for the 100th time`
`10:30.44`	`RoyK`	`this is 1.2.0`
`10:30.52`	`bkw_`	`ya chances are its broken`
`10:30.59`	`bkw_`	`last I seen it was`
`10:31.13`	`RoyK`	`u know what part of it's broken?`
`10:31.39`	`bkw_`	`not sure haven't looked into it anymore than a few moments to know that its not doing the right thing it seems`
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`10:39.04`	`PoWeRKiLL`	`I found a bug in forkcdr`
`10:39.09`	`PoWeRKiLL`	`If I set the callerid after using forkcdr I got 3 entries in my cdr instead of 2 and the 2 first entries have the same uniqueid`
`10:42.15`	`*** join/#asterisk postel (n=jk@unaffiliated/postel)`
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`10:46.27`	`magic_1`	`lo all`
`10:49.33`	`bkw_`	`magic_1, you're running a GUI on your asterisk box?`
`10:50.05`	`bkw_`	`magic_1cause i need to add some rules so that my zaptel ztdummy will work but i need permissions to do so <-- udev rules?`
`10:50.27`	`magic_1`	`well what i am trying to do is install asterisk on a fedora core 3 system,on which i am running a GUI`
`10:50.39`	`bkw_`	`you don't need no stinking gui`
`10:50.47`	`bkw_`	`let me guess you're doing RPMs?`
`10:50.57`	`magic_1`	`yeah i ended up logining in as root and doing`
`10:51.01`	`magic_1`	`no`
`10:51.04`	`magic_1`	`compliing`
`10:51.14`	`bkw_`	`you don't know the magic of su -?`
`10:51.15`	`magic_1`	`sorry mis spelt`
`10:51.19`	`drray`	`bkw - you know anything about adit 600's?`
`10:51.20`	`bkw_`	`just drop a term and su to root`
`10:51.35`	`bkw_`	`drray, not off hand but not knowing has never stopped me in the past`
`10:51.35`	`magic_1`	`that is what i having been doing`
`10:51.36`	`bkw_`	`:P`
`10:51.48`	`bkw_`	`magic_1, must checking :P`
`10:51.50`	`drray`	`fair enough, there is a g729 card for it`
`10:51.51`	`magic_1`	`however some reason it didnt want to work`
`10:51.59`	`magic_1`	`hehehehe`
`10:52.01`	`drray`	`would I be able to link that card to asterisk?`
`10:52.03`	`bkw_`	`chances are you were not in the group wheel`
`10:52.07`	`bkw_`	`drray, doubful`
`10:52.09`	`drray`	`or am I high?`
`10:52.35`	`bkw_`	`yep higher than a kite`
`10:52.38`	`bkw_`	`;)`
`10:52.44`	`magic_1`	`problem now is that when i try load my zaptel madule it says`
`10:52.46`	`magic_1`	`/usr/src`
`10:52.59`	`magic_1`	`[root@share src]# modprobe zaptel`
`10:52.59`	`magic_1`	`bash: modprobe: command not found`
`10:53.06`	`magic_1`	`sorry about that delay`
`10:53.14`	`magic_1`	`never did that before`
`10:53.17`	`bkw_`	`you didn't do "su -"`
`10:53.22`	`bkw_`	`so /sbin isn't in your path`
`10:53.29`	`magic_1`	`i only did su`
`10:53.32`	`magic_1`	`not su -`
`10:53.36`	`bkw_`	`su - is what you wanna do`
`10:53.43`	`bkw_`	`if you don't then you don't gain the root env`
`10:53.45`	`magic_1`	`let me try quick thankx`
`10:53.45`	`bkw_`	`you keep your env`
`10:53.56`	`bkw_`	`which doesn't have those directories in its path`
`10:54.29`	`magic_1`	`it works thanks`
`10:54.32`	`magic_1`	`bigtime`
`10:54.50`	`magic_1`	`i have been having missions with this installation like i dont know`
`10:54.51`	`RoyK`	`bkw_: i had allow=g729 without having loaded the codec`
`10:54.58`	`bkw_`	`RoyK, woops`
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`10:54.59`	`bkw_`	`:P`
`10:55.07`	`RoyK`	`:P`
`10:56.03`	`magic_1`	`the stuff is finaly starting to take shape after 3 days hehehehehehe`
`10:56.22`	`bkw_`	`I get the impression you're new to linux/unix also`
`10:56.39`	`magic_1`	`somewhat, i am a recent converted`
`10:56.45`	`RoyK`	`lol`
`10:56.45`	`*** join/#asterisk mesfet (n=mesfet@host130-204.pool82188.interbusiness.it)`
`10:56.50`	`bkw_`	`oh newbie that fell for the hype`
`10:56.58`	`bkw_`	`linux ain't all that and a bag of chips`
`10:57.07`	`drray`	`at least he's not running asterisk at home`
`10:57.16`	`bkw_`	`people that know nothing about it seem to hype it as the holy grail`
`10:57.23`	`bkw_`	`drray, true`
`10:57.30`	`*** join/#asterisk lenne_dk (n=mirc@83.72.129.7.ip.tele2adsl.dk)`
`10:57.57`	`RoyK`	`i heard someone ask 'how can i change the password with asterisk@home' and someone else answer 'rm -rf /' and then the one asking did so, some time ago...`
`10:58.01`	`magic_1`	`no my thing is that the the company that i started working for,only uses linux,and i have come to like it some what`
`10:58.02`	`RoyK`	`hard way to learn it...`
`10:58.30`	`bkw_`	`I honestly don't think you can rm -rf / anymore`
`10:58.37`	`drray`	`RoyK - it's not something I would do to someone, but it does thin the herd somewhat`
`10:58.45`	`bkw_`	`you can't unlink / anymore either`
`10:58.51`	`bkw_`	`the OS won't let ya`
`10:58.55`	`bkw_`	`well OpenBSD won't`
`10:58.58`	`bkw_`	`linux might still`
`10:59.08`	`drray`	`OMG< HOW WILL I TRASH MY OS NOW!`
`10:59.13`	`magic_1`	`i do server installation and what ever is needed here however,i know my windows stuff just somewhat new to linux hehehe`
`10:59.35`	`bkw_`	`dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda size=1024M count=3`
`10:59.36`	`RoyK`	`bkw_: it doesn't unlink / but it sure traverses the filesystem`
`10:59.41`	`magic_1`	`but yeah thanx guys for all the help`
`10:59.44`	`magic_1`	`bigtime`
`10:59.51`	`RoyK`	`bkw_: size? not bs?`
`10:59.51`	`drray`	`magic - help someone else later`
`10:59.57`	`bkw_`	`ya ya`
`10:59.59`	`bkw_`	`i'm tired`
`11:00.03`	`bkw_`	`its 5am`
`11:00.04`	`RoyK`	`anyway bs=1024M will allocate 1gig ram`
`11:00.04`	`magic_1`	`will do that`
`11:00.05`	`bkw_`	`I should be sleeping`
`11:00.12`	`magic_1`	`hehehhe`
`11:00.14`	`*** join/#asterisk zotz (n=zotz@24.231.47.168)`
`11:00.24`	`bkw_`	`RoyK, you sure about that one`
`11:00.28`	`magic_1`	`i only hit the sack 5 this mornging`
`11:00.28`	`bkw_`	`I don't think it will`
`11:00.43`	`magic_1`	`i am from south africa`
`11:00.54`	`RoyK`	`bkw_: i'm quite sure. tried it quite recently before reinstalling a box`
`11:00.57`	`magic_1`	`time dif here that is why i mentioned it`
`11:01.17`	`RoyK`	`magic_1: what TZ is that? far from CET?`
`11:01.35`	`drray`	`isn't SA GMT?`
`11:01.43`	`*** join/#asterisk Rawplayer (n=kevin@ipc31055d2.oom-killer.org)`
`11:01.50`	`drray`	`I'm a stupid american so I would not know`
`11:02.24`	`magic_1`	`not really however it is one pm here at the mo`
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`11:02.31`	`RoyK`	`South Africa Zone - Time = GMT+2`
`11:02.33`	`magic_1`	`yeah it`
`11:02.35`	`RoyK`	`so same as finland...`
`11:02.39`	`RoyK`	`:P`
`11:02.41`	`magic_1`	`think so`
`11:02.45`	`RoyK`	`linus tz`
`11:02.49`	`magic_1`	`heheh`
`11:03.58`	`bkw_`	`I need to get the BGP feed of spammers`
`11:04.03`	`*** join/#asterisk chapeaurouge (n=chap@85.201.80.249)`
`11:04.29`	`RoyK`	`:)`
`11:05.16`	`mutilator`	`w00t`
`11:05.21`	`mutilator`	`our ADSL is hot!`
`11:05.24`	`magic_1`	`any one here done the CEH course`
`11:05.46`	`mutilator`	`now for the customer flood`
`11:05.47`	`mutilator`	`fscking verizon is being gay`
`11:07.08`	`RoyK`	`what's so fun about them?`
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`11:07.30`	`mutilator`	`?`
`11:07.35`	`drray`	`I want verizon to hit seattle with teh 30/5 fiber business broadband`
`11:07.40`	`mesfet`	`Hi all. I'm trying asterisk with 1 ISDN HFC-S card. Does zaphfc module works with all cards using HFC-S chipset, or some HFC-S cards may not work?`
`11:07.55`	`mutilator`	`it takes like 3 weeks for them to install new lines to customers houses`
`11:08.28`	`mutilator`	`we've got 7 orders that are past due right now`
`11:08.34`	`mutilator`	`and customers are pissed`
`11:08.56`	`drray`	`what do the expect with the holidays approaching`
`11:09.25`	`RoyK`	`mutilator: gay originally means merry, fun, happy`
`11:09.33`	`RoyK`	`:)`
`11:09.45`	`drray`	`so correct usage would be to call them ciggerettes`
`11:10.16`	`many`	`mesfet: hfc is hfc is hfc.`
`11:10.28`	`RoyK`	`ManxPower: i thought that was hfc...`
`11:10.48`	`many`	`one day ill make a survey why hfc users would use zap.`
`11:11.03`	`bkw_`	`mutilator, what telco youworking with?`
`11:11.12`	`RoyK`	`is visdn zappish?`
`11:11.23`	`many`	`no. thats why i use visdn :-P`
`11:11.39`	`RoyK`	`:P`
`11:11.40`	`mutilator`	`clec is telnet`
`11:11.46`	`bkw_`	`mutilator, ah`
`11:11.48`	`bkw_`	`good luck`
`11:11.52`	`mutilator`	`?`
`11:12.03`	`bkw_`	`just working with telcos to provide DSL service is hell`
`11:12.07`	`bkw_`	`you get all kinds of excuses`
`11:12.09`	`bkw_`	`orders wrong`
`11:12.11`	`mutilator`	`neh`
`11:12.17`	`mutilator`	`telnet is teh awesome`
`11:12.20`	`bkw_`	`cross connects not cross connected`
`11:12.35`	`mutilator`	`ilecs are the problem`
`11:12.39`	`bkw_`	`I got to where I knew more about what was going on than the morons I had to deal with on the phone`
`11:12.46`	`mutilator`	`especially century tel`
`11:12.48`	`bkw_`	`every single time I would place an order`
`11:12.56`	`bkw_`	`SBC woudl turn around and contact the customer and try to sell them DSL`
`11:12.59`	`bkw_`	`but when we complain`
`11:13.02`	`bkw_`	`they swear its not them`
`11:13.06`	`bkw_`	`and they don't do that shit`
`11:13.16`	`bkw_`	`but one day they did it to ME personally`
`11:13.27`	`mutilator`	`yea, actaully`
`11:13.33`	`bkw_`	`they still say they don't do that sorta thing`
`11:13.34`	`mutilator`	`we tried to do that`
`11:13.48`	`mutilator`	`and sbc sent the customer a notice that they couldn't get dsl`
`11:13.53`	`mutilator`	`and offered them other services`
`11:13.59`	`bkw_`	`yep`
`11:14.07`	`bkw_`	`but they could get DSL`
`11:14.10`	`mutilator`	`which i don't think sbc should have talked to the customer at all even to tell them they were too far away to get dsl`
`11:14.17`	`bkw_`	`right`
`11:14.40`	`bkw_`	`but trying to talk to anyone with power at SBC is like trying to beat sense in to George W. Bush`
`11:14.45`	`mutilator`	`according to their website they could get dsl`
`11:14.46`	`bkw_`	`impossible`
`11:15.03`	`RoyK`	`nice`
`11:15.28`	`RoyK`	`our next product will be voip/gsm seemless handover`
`11:15.28`	`bkw_`	`this is why I always got each DSL installers cellphone and became friends with a few of them`
`11:15.30`	`RoyK`	`tamtitam`
`11:15.35`	`bkw_`	`man I could get shit done in no time`
`11:15.52`	`bkw_`	`took me time but I was good at it`
`11:16.02`	`bkw_`	`I could get DSL turnups in 3 days or less sometimes`
`11:16.46`	`bkw_`	`the fun part is when they fuck up cross connects`
`11:16.51`	`bkw_`	`I would configure the cutomers PC`
`11:16.53`	`bkw_`	`and ping them`
`11:16.56`	`bkw_`	`but no response`
`11:17.09`	`bkw_`	`I would say "Ok the light on your modem should flash 5 times" please count them and tell me.`
`11:17.13`	`bkw_`	`I would send 5 packets`
`11:17.16`	`bkw_`	`it would flash`
`11:17.23`	`bkw_`	`indication the packets would make it to the customer`
`11:17.26`	`bkw_`	`but never made it back to me`
`11:17.39`	`bkw_`	`and they would argue with me over it`
`11:17.46`	`bkw_`	`"Its all fine on our end"`
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`11:18.18`	`indego`	`I am trying out the asterisk1.2 release version. Everything seems to be working but incoming calls on the ISDN (via CAPI). I get:`
`11:18.18`	`indego`	`ERROR[30892]: chan_capi.c:2112 start_pbx_on_match: GMS1: did not find exten for '49****0', ignoring call.`
`11:18.21`	`bkw_`	`anyway`
`11:18.25`	`drray`	`then they go do something and fix it`
`11:18.38`	`drray`	`even though their end was fine`
`11:18.38`	`bkw_`	`indego, "49****0" doesn't exist in the context`
`11:18.45`	`bkw_`	`the error is pretty clear on what is wrong`
`11:18.53`	`many`	`wtf`
`11:19.08`	`many`	`the incoming call shouldnt indicate the country code`
`11:19.19`	`bkw_`	`you tell em ManxPower`
`11:19.19`	`many`	`it should indicate the msn only.`
`11:19.20`	`bkw_`	`er many`
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`11:19.29`	`indego`	`In my capi.conf I have : msn=49**0 isdnmode=msn incomingmsn=`
`11:19.41`	`many`	`indego: DOH.`
`11:19.47`	`many`	`msn aint your telephone number`
`11:19.49`	`many`	`its your msn.`
`11:20.15`	`bkw_`	`ok bed`
`11:20.16`	`bkw_`	`bbl`
`11:20.39`	`indego`	`many: it worked in my asterisk 1.0 setup.`
`11:20.50`	`many`	`so what? its wrong`
`11:21.29`	`many`	`the conf asks for your msn, so you give it your msn, not your international telephone number.`
`11:21.50`	`indego`	`OK, it should be the 'base' number correct?`
`11:21.56`	`many`	`Yes.`
`11:22.04`	`indego`	`that is the base number`
`11:22.08`	`many`	`49 911 12345 -0`
`11:22.13`	`many`	`12345 is the msn.`
`11:22.56`	`many`	`i dont believe your telco has set your msn to 49 <city> <msn>`
`11:22.57`	`indego`	`yes, the full number would be 00352 49 ** *0`
`11:23.16`	`many`	`ah`
`11:23.18`	`many`	`got me`
`11:23.22`	`many`	`8-)`
`11:23.34`	`indego`	`it is a 6 digit luxembourgish number.`
`11:23.43`	`many`	`yah, just noticed. sorry :-)`
`11:23.59`	`indego`	`many: you from Deutschland?`
`11:24.08`	`many`	`yes. that 49 part confused me thus. :)`
`11:24.14`	`indego`	`Thought so`
`11:24.17`	`indego`	`;)`
`11:24.56`	`many`	`do you match your msn in your dialplan?`
`11:25.06`	`many`	`or are you doing direct matches to the extension?`
`11:25.37`	`indego`	`I would match the number in the dialplan, it is the same dialplan as for my 1.0 setup`
`11:25.49`	`many`	`well, wonder that this worked at all`
`11:26.17`	`indego`	`the only change is that I am now using chan_capi from the sourceforge cvs and not the Jungmanns one`
`11:27.13`	`indego`	`It is a very basic dialplan, I can call out over the ISDN. It just does not want to pick-up`
`11:27.33`	`many`	`indego: try the following, rename your old capi-incoming context in extensions.conf only, create a new with the name of what you said in chan_capi.conf.`
`11:27.41`	`many`	`in that new context you put something along of`
`11:28.00`	`many`	`exten => _msnXX,1,Goto(old_capi_incoming,${EXTEN:Y},1)`
`11:28.39`	`many`	`ie.: you make wildcard match on what begins with your msn and cut the msn and goto the renamed context`
`11:29.11`	`many`	`dialplan never worked for me without matching msn, wether it be capi, misdn or visdn.`
`11:29.34`	`indego`	`OK, but I have no DID on this ISDN, the base number is also the telephone number...`
`11:29.56`	`many`	`thats okay, then just match the full msn`
`11:33.09`	`indego`	`many: I was using "exten => s,1,Answer"`
`11:33.16`	`many`	`now.`
`11:33.42`	`many`	`o_O`
`11:33.55`	`many`	`you lost me. :-)`
`11:34.24`	`indego`	`I tried your fix. Things changed a bit: sent into invalid extension '49***0' in context 'old_incoming', but no invalid handler`
`11:34.43`	`indego`	`so, it looks like it tries.`
`11:34.48`	`indego`	`I will fiddle.`
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`11:35.35`	`ennuyeux72`	`whats the maximum number of TE411 cards u can stick in a single server`
`11:35.38`	`many`	`sounds as if you misunderstood something. :-)`
`11:36.08`	`ennuyeux72`	`wouldn't be the first time :)`
`11:36.16`	`many`	`sorry, meant indego.`
`11:36.25`	`indego`	`:)`
`11:36.31`	`ennuyeux72`	`oops`
`11:37.46`	`indego`	`many: many thanks, a little change (copy / paste of my old 's' lines with s/s/MSN/) works`
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`11:40.30`	`many`	`:)`
`11:40.56`	`many`	`yea, indeed, thats the trivial change when youre running PTM`
`11:41.20`	`Katty`	`many: do you ever sleep?`
`11:41.31`	`many`	`what the... err.`
`11:41.35`	`many`	`i mean. i dont know what sleep is.`
`11:41.40`	`Katty`	`many: k`
`11:41.48`	`many`	`8)`
`11:42.07`	`many`	`too much on my mind anyway.`
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`11:43.06`	`freezer`	`hi`
`11:43.28`	`freezer`	`my two hfc-s pci isdn cards just arrived =)`
`11:43.42`	`many`	`wonder what happened if i never made it. id probably be happy with a wife and a dozen or so childs. :P`
`11:43.51`	`many`	`it, as in IT`
`11:44.49`	`ennuyeux72`	`has anyone ever tried putting multiple quad port T1 cards in a single server`
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`11:45.44`	`indego`	`Humm, but why would the 's' not match an incoming call?`
`11:45.56`	`many`	`well`
`11:46.08`	`many`	`i did wonder and the only reply i have is: they changed the way it works.`
`11:46.47`	`indego`	`OK, is this change documented anywhere?`
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`11:47.10`	`many`	`committers should know`
`11:47.16`	`many`	`but iam none.`
`11:47.28`	`indego`	`ok, thanks again`
`11:48.29`	`indego`	`I am having another peruse of the docs`
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`11:52.51`	`Dibblah`	`Hi! Not sure if this is the right place or not. Asterisk-1.2, Zaptel-1.2, xlite, X100p card. Works fine dialing in, but outbound, no outbound audio gets onto the line...`
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`11:57.12`	`RoyK`	`Dibblah: force codec alaw and try again`
`11:58.52`	`mutilator`	`had to move my car for the plow trucks`
`11:58.53`	`RoyK`	`jbot: lart mutilator`
`11:59.01`	`mutilator`	`those fkrs need to get up earlier`
`11:59.02`	`mutilator`	`:P`
`11:59.18`	`mutilator`	`can't plow the parking lot before 5:30am`
`11:59.21`	`mutilator`	`pfft`
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`12:03.29`	`Dibblah`	`RoyK: Thanks for the suggestion. After more playing around, it appears it's just a user error.`
`12:03.48`	`Dibblah`	`(Callprogress= yes, progzone=uk silently fails)`
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`12:17.12`	`Stephnie`	`hi`
`12:18.35`	`Stephnie`	`how to run a php script in dial plan?`
`12:23.38`	`Stephnie`	`??`
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`12:27.50`	`puzzled`	`morning`
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`12:29.35`	`Stephnie`	`how to run a php script in dial plan?`
`12:29.47`	`Druken`	`agi`
`12:29.48`	`skeffling`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+AGI+php`
`12:30.02`	`morale`	`System(/usr/bin/php4-cli /path/to/script.php)`
`12:30.04`	`morale`	`or whatever`
`12:30.58`	`Stephnie`	`druken .... I just found a sample php in wiki....when I run it with AGI ... I get`
`12:31.55`	`Stephnie`	`- Launched AGI Script /root/stephnie/sample.php`
`12:31.55`	`Stephnie`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`12:41.35`	`Stephnie`	`oh I have a bad version of asterisk...it's working fine on other boxes :S`
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`12:49.25`	`hugov6`	`hiho`
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`12:51.30`	`hugov6`	`q: i jump with "Voicemail(u$$voicemailbox)" into voicemail for unavail. own message is set via adaved opts 1 for own unavail. message. works well. but after the own msg is played i get also the vm-intro. how can i change it that way, that vm-intro isnt played anymore?`
`12:51.56`	`mutilator`	`hmm`
`12:52.02`	`mutilator`	`should i get breakfast this morning or not`
`12:52.19`	`hugov6`	`mutilator: breakfast!`
`12:52.20`	`mutilator`	`i could send a lacky out to get me 2 bacon egg & cheese bagles`
`12:52.33`	`hugov6`	`sounds good`
`12:52.36`	`mutilator`	`dudes just gettin done with his shift, he'de probly go if i got him some`
`12:53.28`	`mutilator`	`grr`
`12:53.54`	`mutilator`	`what ya think the chances are of me calling this guys previous ISP and finding out why they canceled (or service was terminated)`
`12:54.13`	`mutilator`	`ever since this person signed up with us (on dialup mind you) they've been sending massive amounts of spam`
`12:54.27`	`mutilator`	`been warned once already and she said she had a birus`
`12:54.33`	`tzanger`	`mutilator: just tarpit him`
`12:54.45`	`tzanger`	`this is a technical problem, give him a technical "solution"`
`12:54.58`	`tzanger`	`it's just an MTA configuration`
`12:55.03`	`tzanger`	`5 RCPT TO: no delay`
`12:55.07`	`tzanger`	`6 RCPT TO: 2s delay`
`12:55.11`	`tzanger`	`7th RCPT TO: 4s delay`
`12:55.15`	`tzanger`	`8th: 8`
`12:55.28`	`tzanger`	`9th: 16s...`
`12:55.38`	`tzanger`	`it quickly becomes tiresome to send large volumes of spam`
`12:55.55`	`tzanger`	`and the average person sending a message to 50 people gets long delays once in a while and thinks it's a glitch`
`12:56.31`	`tzanger`	`there's teergruebing too`
`12:57.33`	`mutilator`	`umm`
`12:57.43`	`mutilator`	`dunno if qmail does that`
`12:57.49`	`tzanger`	`it sure does`
`12:57.59`	`tzanger`	`I have been runnign qmail for damn near 10 years now`
`12:58.21`	`tzanger`	`I've switched over to postfix in the last 2-3 years simply because I was tired of adding (litterally) 22 patches to qmail`
`12:58.23`	`mutilator`	`ah`
`12:58.27`	`mutilator`	`i gotta patch it`
`12:58.43`	`tzanger`	`but our main mail server is qmail, the head-end (internet-facing) stuff is all postfix`
`12:58.49`	`Stephnie`	`I have an OLD asterisk box which Run AGI scripts very fine....and I have a newly installed Asterisk MAchine....it doesn't run AGI() properly....what should I do?`
`12:58.52`	`Druken`	`mutilator: good tunes?`
`12:58.53`	`tzanger`	`yeah I can try to find my patchset for you if you like`
`12:59.06`	`mutilator`	`i have a few custom patches too`
`12:59.14`	`mutilator`	`because qmail allows % hack and ya can't stop it`
`12:59.17`	`mutilator`	`so i had to disable that`
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`12:59.59`	`mutilator`	`i use it as a filter server, so it relayed the % hack to the other server then that server sent it out because the filter server is in the allowed hosts and allowed the relay`
`13:00.03`	`mutilator`	`it was a big ol mess`
`13:00.13`	`mutilator`	`being RBL'd for it left and right`
`13:00.35`	`mutilator`	`my solution for now, diabled the customers account`
`13:00.41`	`mutilator`	`:P`
`13:00.55`	`Druken`	`had a spammer?`
`13:01.05`	`mutilator`	`heh`
`13:01.11`	`mutilator`	`http://mrtg2.m33access.com`
`13:01.18`	`mutilator`	`at the bottom check out the queue graph`
`13:01.33`	`mutilator`	`then look at the history and ya can see when they did it twice before`
`13:02.33`	`mutilator`	`Druken: yea you had some weird mixes going on yesterday tho`
`13:02.35`	`tzanger`	`mutilator: fuck calling his former isp`
`13:02.37`	`Druken`	`ouchie`
`13:02.40`	`tzanger`	`you've got him on TOS, nuke him`
`13:02.56`	`mutilator`	`it's best for us to keep customers right now ;)`
`13:03.13`	`tzanger`	`any spammer doing it on dialup and not using a zombie network's small potatoes anyway`
`13:03.16`	`mutilator`	`that damn megamix song played FOREVER yesterday so i stopped listenin`
`13:03.17`	`tzanger`	`and stupid`
`13:03.27`	`tzanger`	`I prefer listening to ergot`
`13:03.36`	`mutilator`	`the sliverblue or whatever`
`13:03.41`	`mutilator`	`was some good stuff`
`13:03.45`	`mutilator`	`never heard it before`
`13:03.54`	`Druken`	`hehe`
`13:04.11`	`mutilator`	`then it switched to tim mcgraw or some shit`
`13:04.13`	`mutilator`	`i was liek @!#$@!#%@#`
`13:04.20`	`Druken`	`well, it says you're still listening...`
`13:04.26`	`mutilator`	`ya`
`13:04.27`	`mutilator`	`i am`
`13:04.38`	`Druken`	`for the past 22hours`
`13:04.39`	`Druken`	`hehe`
`13:04.43`	`tzanger`	`I'm listening to Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes`
`13:04.44`	`mutilator`	`heh yep`
`13:04.54`	`mutilator`	`i have headphones`
`13:04.58`	`mutilator`	`so it doesn't matter if i leave it going`
`13:05.04`	`mutilator`	`see`
`13:05.09`	`tzanger`	`the Armin Van Burren mix)`
`13:05.09`	`mutilator`	`whats this barry manilow shit`
`13:05.20`	`mutilator`	`that came on yesterday too`
`13:05.20`	`Druken`	`mutilator: i'm sure you've noticed i play pretty much everything`
`13:05.23`	`tzanger`	`(gabriel and dresden ft. motorcycle) -- it`
`13:05.27`	`mutilator`	`then some john denver`
`13:05.28`	`tzanger`	`s by far the BEST version of this song`
`13:05.48`	`mutilator`	`nvr heard`
`13:05.54`	`tzanger`	`grab it on p2p`
`13:06.01`	`mutilator`	`i need an auto skip`
`13:06.01`	`Stephnie`	`my new asterisk machine is not running agi scripts properly...I have done "cvs update" as well....same problem....any help??`
`13:06.05`	`mutilator`	`i don't use any p2p`
`13:06.10`	`tzanger`	`Gabrien & Dresden ft. Motorcycle - As the rush comes`
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`13:06.15`	`tzanger`	`fuck fine let me put it up`
`13:06.19`	`mutilator`	`i hop on phazenet if i want some songs`
`13:06.19`	`tzanger`	`if ito's nto already there`
`13:06.30`	`Druken`	`mutilator: if you talk real nice, i may put up a skip on a website or something :)`
`13:06.40`	`tzanger`	`yup it's there`
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`13:06.40`	`mutilator`	`me talk nice??!`
`13:06.41`	`tzanger`	`http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/Gabriel%20&%20Dresden%20ft.%20Motorcycle%20-%20As%20the%20rush%20comes%20(Armin%20van%20Buuren%20remix).mp3`
`13:06.46`	`mutilator`	`hah!`
`13:06.48`	`wpathuis`	`Hi everyone`
`13:06.51`	`Druken`	`:)`
`13:06.55`	`hugov6`	`ok does someone know how to disable/remove vm-intro with Voicemail(u$$vmb$$) when setup with own unavail.msgs?`
`13:07.00`	`mutilator`	`mm nice tzanger`
`13:07.03`	`mutilator`	`2.6mb/sec`
`13:07.08`	`tzanger`	`that's it?`
`13:07.13`	`hugov6`	`tzanger: armin van buuren roxx.`
`13:07.16`	`tzanger`	`that's a 100meg connection`
`13:07.18`	`mutilator`	`thats all that the ds3 has leftover`
`13:07.22`	`test34`	`Is digital from from the cable company the same as VOIP ?`
`13:07.26`	`wpathuis`	`Is there anybody overhere with some experience using Asterisk in combination with FastAGI and Java?`
`13:07.28`	`tzanger`	`hugov6: yeah it's okay... I don't like all his stuff`
`13:07.29`	`test34`	`digital phone..`
`13:07.31`	`tzanger`	`wpathuis: not me`
`13:07.34`	`mutilator`	`after all the pri's are taken out and the other bandwidth from the isp is used`
`13:07.39`	`tzanger`	`hugov6: I have been on a goa/psytrance kick lately`
`13:07.43`	`tzanger`	`but this isn't psytrance`
`13:07.56`	`tzanger`	`it's good and solid with a heavy beat and very good vocals`
`13:08.12`	`Druken`	`hehe`
`13:08.14`	`mutilator`	`stopped the barry manilow`
`13:08.14`	`tzanger`	`the original by Motorcycle has a fucked up intro that ruins it`
`13:08.15`	`hugov6`	`tzanger: hmmm i know what u mean. i do also favor such things like aural float and sofa surfers.`
`13:08.15`	`mutilator`	`darn`
`13:08.20`	`Assid`	`22 hr record?`
`13:08.21`	`tzanger`	`:-)`
`13:08.36`	`mutilator`	`i don't think i've ever streamed something for 22 hours`
`13:08.44`	`mutilator`	`other than from my own pc at home`
`13:08.47`	`tzanger`	`I have di.fm's chillout, trance and vocaltrance on my bookmarks, in addition to their eurodance... I have always liked that style :-)`
`13:08.52`	`mutilator`	`usually they disconnect once or twice`
`13:09.02`	`mutilator`	`specially a 128k stream`
`13:09.06`	`tzanger`	`yes but i'm not paying ofr it so that is their right, and my shell script just reconnects :-)`
`13:09.07`	`Druken`	`mutilator: :) it works ok...`
`13:09.15`	`morale`	06:10:05 (1.34 MB/s) - `Gabriel & Dresden ft. Motorcycle..
`13:09.21`	`morale`	`thats not bad`
`13:09.27`	`tzanger`	`come on you guys flood the link :-)`
`13:09.27`	`mutilator`	`i went faster`
`13:09.30`	`mutilator`	`har har`
`13:09.37`	`tzanger`	`there's some other neat shit in there if you look around`
`13:09.45`	`morale`	`i wonder which connection this is going out`
`13:10.10`	`tzanger`	`http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/l33t_cereal.jpg`
`13:10.18`	`morale`	`ah. its using our shaw link which is always saturated.`
`13:10.32`	`tzanger`	`if I had my cogent IP up you would be MUCH faster`
`13:10.35`	`mutilator`	`picture of you on the box?`
`13:10.37`	`tzanger`	`this is a blended dtag/etc feed`
`13:10.38`	`tzanger`	`hahaha no`
`13:10.41`	`tzanger`	`I ain't asian`
`13:10.43`	`Druken`	`bah!`
`13:10.45`	`mutilator`	`:P`
`13:10.52`	`*** join/#asterisk ful\|work (n=fulgas@209.8.233.246)`
`13:10.58`	`tzanger`	`I just like theh "OATMEAL IS TEH SUX!!!1!!!1!1"`
`13:11.08`	`morale`	`heh`
`13:11.20`	`mutilator`	`whats the john wiley sons?`
`13:11.24`	`morale`	`http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx - thats even better.`
`13:11.36`	`tzanger`	`http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/stfu.jpg`
`13:11.37`	`hugov6`	`to my question concerning voicemail, the answer is "s" couldn someone tell me to rtfm? ;)`
`13:11.40`	`hugov6`	`i hate u :)`
`13:11.46`	`tzanger`	`I've used that on more than one occassion`
`13:12.02`	`hugov6`	`su ans sb are the answer`
`13:12.32`	`drray`	`I'd like a diploma for my cube at work from STFU`
`13:12.43`	`*** join/#asterisk tdonahue (n=tdonahue@208.51.101.201)`
`13:12.55`	`tzanger`	`http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/word.jpg`
`13:12.57`	`tzanger`	`that's hilarious`
`13:12.57`	`mutilator`	`i keep getting all kinds of accounting records with no stop records`
`13:13.02`	`Druken`	`freeradius is a pain in the ass`
`13:13.08`	`mutilator`	`no it's not`
`13:13.08`	`tzanger`	`mutilator: that's the biggest problem with radius`
`13:13.13`	`mutilator`	`it's rather awesome`
`13:13.15`	`Druken`	`yes it is...`
`13:13.22`	`Druken`	`it pisses me off`
`13:13.24`	`mutilator`	`i never had that problem with steelbelt`
`13:13.25`	`tzanger`	`I preferred gnu-radius over freeradius and all the others`
`13:13.30`	`mutilator`	`but steelbelt sucked in every single other way`
`13:13.31`	`tzanger`	`when I was into the dialup isp stuff`
`13:13.53`	`morale`	even though it was 1025bytes.. 06:08:27 (48.88 MB/s) - `www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/phonestuff/index.html' saved [1025]
`13:13.57`	`morale`	`thats a decent response time`
`13:14.04`	`tzanger`	`phonestuff?`
`13:14.06`	`mutilator`	`we use radius for.. everything, dialup, wireless, dsl, web accelerator, security suite, login to websites`
`13:14.09`	`tzanger`	`I dont' remember phonestuff`
`13:14.19`	`tzanger`	`ahh okay`
`13:14.25`	`tzanger`	`someone wanted to know wtf bix was`
`13:14.30`	`tzanger`	`45MB/sec not bad :-)`
`13:14.45`	`tzanger`	`anyway I gotta get in to the office, we'll talk more there :-)`
`13:14.55`	`mutilator`	`good song btw`
`13:14.57`	`Druken`	`45mb/s is only a wet dream for me...`
`13:15.02`	`freezer`	`school is out here =)`
`13:15.11`	`h3x`	`heh`
`13:15.14`	`mutilator`	`it's not as great as ya think druken`
`13:15.20`	`mutilator`	`cause once ya have it ya need more`
`13:15.27`	`mutilator`	`and then everything else in the world sucks`
`13:15.29`	`morale`	`i have multiple gigabit links :)`
`13:15.39`	`freezer`	`i have 1,5mbit adsl`
`13:16.00`	`mutilator`	`i have wifi`
`13:16.06`	`freezer`	`i too`
`13:16.06`	`mutilator`	`usually get about 13mbit`
`13:16.09`	`Assid`	`i have a computer!`
`13:16.15`	`Druken`	`mutilator: would it shock you that i stream from DSL ?? :)`
`13:16.20`	`freezer`	`i can read!`
`13:16.24`	`mutilator`	`no, not really`
`13:16.31`	`Assid`	`freezer: dont lie!`
`13:16.45`	`tzanger`	`http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/cameltoads.jpg`
`13:16.46`	`Druken`	`bad freezer!`
`13:16.46`	`mutilator`	`ppl in the two towns here are gettin dsl`
`13:16.47`	`tzanger`	`sooooooooooo funny`
`13:16.48`	`freezer`	`Assid: i do not ^^`
`13:16.55`	`mutilator`	`we started out sellin em crazy speeds`
`13:17.00`	`mutilator`	`3.5down and 768k up`
`13:17.10`	`mutilator`	`now they're 1.5mb/512`
`13:17.47`	`tzanger`	`http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/Cat_Hat.jpg`
`13:18.07`	`mutilator`	`i live a lil bit from the CO but it's adsl2+ so i wanna see what kind speeds i can run where i'm at`
`13:18.14`	`mutilator`	`probly no 24mbit but be interesting to try`
`13:18.28`	`freezer`	`i only have 1536kbit down and 192kbit up...`
`13:18.39`	`freezer`	`downstream is ok...but upstream really suxx`
`13:19.11`	`Druken`	`mutilator: SDSL :)`
`13:19.15`	`freezer`	`even if i want to surf/play online/voip at the same time..`
`13:19.34`	`mutilator`	`get s'more of the techno in there`
`13:19.41`	`mutilator`	`less phantom of the opera`
`13:19.50`	`Druken`	`hehehe`
`13:19.54`	`Druken`	`that's the wife's`
`13:20.15`	`hugov6`	`well... me goes to buy a used car now. ill hope they dont fook me.`
`13:20.19`	`hugov6`	`cya plas`
`13:20.50`	`freezer`	`mh`
`13:21.00`	`freezer`	`what does fook mean?`
`13:21.11`	`morale`	`probably fuck him over.`
`13:21.22`	`morale`	`or screw him around`
`13:23.03`	`freezer`	`to diddle him? :)`
`13:23.20`	`mutilator`	`ok screw this`
`13:23.26`	`mutilator`	`the guy is spamming on purpose!`
`13:23.36`	`mutilator`	`"This is an advertisement sent by the email advertising contracting company Invenio Sales. To be removed from our list simply hit reply`
`13:23.36`	`mutilator`	`and type "remove" in the subject line. To be removed via US Mail write the advertiser at 6086 Curtice Rd, Eaton Rapids, MI 48827.`
`13:23.54`	`mutilator`	`same as the address on their account`
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`13:24.45`	`morale`	`yeah you reply with "remove" and they know its a valid email account`
`13:24.48`	`morale`	`cha-ching for them`
`13:24.58`	`Druken`	`exactly`
`13:25.05`	`*** join/#asterisk Dead-Bum (i=tor@tor/session/x-14355e6d146bc238)`
`13:25.10`	`morale`	`thats when you spam the spammers.`
`13:25.26`	`Druken`	`mutilator: i think it's now time to destroy them.... just cause you can`
`13:25.30`	`morale`	`load up their mailservers queues so it cannot send/recieve anymore messages`
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`13:25.47`	`jaike`	`anyone using queues with 1.2? the wait time isnt played when a caller goes into the queue`
`13:26.11`	`mutilator`	`i just disabled their account`
`13:26.21`	`mutilator`	`so i'll talk to accounting and see what they wanna do`
`13:26.29`	`Druken`	`should only be played if they are 3+ in the queue`
`13:26.32`	`testmachine`	`hm`
`13:26.35`	`testmachine`	`hopefully`
`13:26.44`	`testmachine`	`spamassassin is working now`
`13:26.49`	`testmachine`	`as it should work`
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`13:27.26`	`jaike`	`Druken: oh ok..guess ill have to test it with 4 callers then..thanks`
`13:28.45`	`Druken`	`ok, well i guess i should go out and start the van.... since it snowed last night`
`13:28.47`	`Druken`	`fucken snow`
`13:28.59`	`morale`	`its -17 here this morning`
`13:29.02`	`morale`	`ugh`
`13:29.04`	`mutilator`	`heh`
`13:29.11`	`mutilator`	`!weather KCMX`
`13:29.16`	`mutilator`	`damn thing hates that`
`13:29.31`	`morale`	`-18�C`
`13:29.32`	`morale`	`Light snow`
`13:29.32`	`morale`	`Calgary`
`13:29.54`	`mutilator`	`yea -18C is perty dern cold`
`13:30.06`	`syle`	`go out and start a vehicle? don;t you have command start?`
`13:30.07`	`mutilator`	`mines the same`
`13:30.15`	`mutilator`	`except not negative`
`13:30.23`	`morale`	`not cold enough until -30 or -40 when your face freezes`
`13:30.37`	`mutilator`	`i'm sure wind chill does enough at -18`
`13:31.00`	`mutilator`	`-9 here`
`13:31.24`	`mutilator`	`forecast is snow every day`
`13:31.28`	`mutilator`	`except next thurday`
`13:32.17`	`synthetiq`	`anyone know the explantaion of beeps, shrills, and clicks being heard on analog devices? do the zap drivers need to be loaded because they lost their fine tuning after a while?`
`13:34.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`synthetiq : What kind of analog devices?`
`13:34.17`	`jaike`	`another thing, our agents are used to pressing # when answering queue calls on v1.07, but now the call comes in when the receiver is lifted...we like it the way it was because if you lift and return it, it jumps to the next agent...you cant do that now`
`13:34.30`	`synthetiq`	`regular telephones lol`
`13:34.37`	`synthetiq`	`on a channel bank`
`13:34.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`You seeing any frame slips or the like on it?`
`13:35.20`	`mutilator`	`or cpu usage high?`
`13:35.22`	`morale`	`where can i find cheap bix blocks/punchdown tools.. are there any online vendors that sell them fairly cheap?`
`13:35.25`	`synthetiq`	`frame slips?`
`13:35.34`	`synthetiq`	`memory usages is high...`
`13:36.12`	`mutilator`	`we get ours from www.hellermanntyton.com`
`13:36.19`	`moot`	`can anyone help me out with a PRI issue`
`13:36.57`	`synthetiq`	`i have 4 port t1 cars, dual proc, and 512mb ram. i think the same could be the killer`
`13:37.10`	`moot`	`pri show span says "Status: Provisioned, Down, Active" but I have no idea what's causing it to show Down`
`13:37.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Hmm`
`13:37.48`	`mutilator`	`morale: www.kendall.com`
`13:37.57`	`mutilator`	`nvm it's dead`
`13:38.21`	`mutilator`	`usually all our cable/fiber/phone anything is ordered from them`
`13:38.32`	`mutilator`	`michigan company`
`13:38.39`	`mutilator`	`in alpen`
`13:38.40`	`mutilator`	`a`
`13:38.41`	`morale`	`ah`
`13:38.53`	`mutilator`	`they usually do us pretty good`
`13:39.49`	`mutilator`	`nice druken... depeche mode`
`13:49.23`	`moot`	`nobody can help?`
`13:52.04`	`Stephnie`	`how to uninstall Asterisk ???`
`13:52.16`	`Stephnie`	`I want to reinstall it ...so plz tell me how to uninstall`
`13:53.10`	`mutilator`	`just.. reinstall`
`13:53.18`	`LostFrog`	`rm /usr/include/asterisk; rm /var/lib/asterisk`
`13:53.30`	`LostFrog`	`Then'make install'`
`13:53.39`	`Stephnie`	`ok ..thanks`
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`13:54.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`moot : have you called Digium for support?`
`13:54.41`	`LostFrog`	`excuse me.. change the second one to rm /usr/lib/asterisk/modules`
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`13:55.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Stephnie : You should do a "make clean" in your new source folder and it'll wipe out the old compiled modules and then redo the "make install"`
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`13:57.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`docelmo: Wakey! Wakey!`
`13:58.02`	`Katty`	`izzocold :<<`
`13:58.22`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: It's 50 here...`
`13:58.30`	`iCEBrkr`	`Tho, I still refuse to wear a coat`
`13:58.35`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: 21F :<`
`13:58.49`	`iCEBrkr`	`Yikes`
`13:58.55`	`iCEBrkr`	`I don't miss that shit at all`
`13:59.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`I spent all of Thanksgiving + most of last week at the beach.`
`13:59.49`	`Katty`	`lucky :<`
`14:00.14`	`iCEBrkr`	`I'm not really a beach person, but it was nice not having to be at work :P`
`14:00.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`Good thing it's winter, cuz if it were summer sun, I would have been fried!`
`14:01.22`	`iCEBrkr`	`w00t!`
`14:01.36`	`iCEBrkr`	`<- Definition of pastey-white`
`14:02.45`	`moot`	`[TK]D-Fender: does it cost money?`
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`14:03.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`moot : how onlly if you've used upyour iniial install support.`
`14:03.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Which I doubt.`
`14:03.57`	`TheCops`	`hey [TK]D-Fender`
`14:03.57`	`TheCops`	`:)`
`14:04.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Remember you bought a product and are entitled to some help with it...`
`14:04.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Hey TC, how goes?`
`14:04.30`	`TheCops`	`Very well, waiting again VTL pricing!! :)`
`14:04.31`	`TheCops`	`hehe`
`14:04.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`OH : If you haven't signed with Videotron for your PRI I've been warned by an ISP that uses them that they are rip-offs and suck`
`14:05.34`	`TheCops`	`I was using VTL for 2 years when I was working for an ISP, 2 PRI voice, 1 DS3 + 2 100mbps ethernet for internet backbone`
`14:05.37`	`TheCops`	`all was very well`
`14:05.39`	`TheCops`	`good services`
`14:05.40`	`TheCops`	`good price`
`14:05.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`From this one case they seem to have changed...`
`14:05.59`	`TheCops`	`I think it depend where he client is in VTL networks`
`14:06.15`	`TheCops`	`his`
`14:06.26`	`TheCops`	`[TK]D-Fender, This is 5 month ago`
`14:06.29`	`TheCops`	`~`
`14:06.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Ok just passing on what I heard.`
`14:06.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`So the rest of your plan moving on well?`
`14:07.00`	`TheCops`	`All is stopped for VTL pricing hehe`
`14:07.03`	`TheCops`	`so we are waiting`
`14:07.12`	`TheCops`	`they need to use a local loop from Bell Canada`
`14:07.15`	`TheCops`	`THAT suck.`
`14:07.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`But if that turns out ok your project is on track for complete renovation?`
`14:07.34`	`TheCops`	`[TK]D-Fender, depend on pricing`
`14:07.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Yeah, resale telco's just add delays a lot of the time.`
`14:07.41`	`TheCops`	`we have some marketing developpement to do`
`14:13.31`	`Stephnie`	`cvs co -d (11/25/2005) asterisk <--- is this correct syntax to get the previous version of asterisk ?`
`14:14.31`	`TheCops`	`[TK]D-Fender, I just called again VTL, and they dont have price, they are waiting for bell pricing for local loop. Bell sucks!`
`14:15.18`	`tzanger`	`morning`
`14:16.10`	`Stephnie`	`cvs co -d (11/25/2005) asterisk <-- is that correct?`
`14:16.51`	`stevek`	`Stephnie: not exactly, I don't think; certainly the parentheses around the date are going to confuse your shell.`
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`14:17.14`	`stevek`	`Stephnie: did you try reading "man cvs", eh?`
`14:17.22`	`Stephnie`	`I love windows and I hate linux......`
`14:17.23`	`stevek`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:17.24`	`Stephnie`	`bye`
`14:17.57`	`stevek`	`well, that will teach me not to help people :)`
`14:17.57`	`LostFrog`	`I guess she has a love/hate relationship with *.`
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`14:31.30`	`chapeaurouge`	`i love windows...`
`14:31.38`	`LostFrog`	`Sick.`
`14:31.47`	`chapeaurouge`	`agreed.`
`14:32.36`	`chapeaurouge`	`then no more managing to do :)`
`14:32.39`	`fishboy1669`	`hi guys`
`14:32.44`	`fishboy1669`	`any one any ideas on this`
`14:32.46`	`fishboy1669`	`Dec 2 14:26:10 NOTICE[18457]: rtp.c:330 process_rfc3389: Comfort noise support incomplete in Asterisk (RFC 3389). Please turn off on client if possible. Client IP: 193.238.69.1`
`14:33.12`	`fishboy1669`	`i have upgraded from suse version to the new stable 1.20 version`
`14:33.18`	`*** join/#asterisk znoG (n=gs@OL101-122.fibertel.com.ar)`
`14:33.22`	`fishboy1669`	`and its throwing out notices all over the place`
`14:33.24`	`LostFrog`	`That sounds self-explanatory.`
`14:33.37`	`fishboy1669`	`not when it didnt happen on my old systeme`
`14:33.41`	`fishboy1669`	`whats changed`
`14:33.45`	`fishboy1669`	`besides the asterisk`
`14:33.52`	`LostFrog`	`Probably just the notice.`
`14:33.53`	`fishboy1669`	`same phones same config etc`
`14:34.32`	`darkskiez`	`you'll get better quality if you turn it off on the phones`
`14:34.38`	`darkskiez`	`its just letting you know that`
`14:36.31`	`fishboy1669`	`but how come my new install lets me know that and my 1.0.08 didnt`
`14:36.50`	`fishboy1669`	`is there some config setting to change the reported notifies etc`
`14:36.59`	`fishboy1669`	`i know there is logger.conf`
`14:37.53`	`LostFrog`	`1.0.8 may have just silently ignored comfort noise or it may have not supported it.`
`14:38.06`	`LostFrog`	`There was a lot of development between 10.8 and 1.2`
`14:38.13`	`fishboy1669`	`true`
`14:38.25`	`jaike`	`hmmm..the CLI dial command is gone on 1.2`
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`14:38.47`	`Laerte`	`hy`
`14:38.50`	`fishboy1669`	`im sure thats not the only difference jaike`
`14:38.52`	`fishboy1669`	`;-)`
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`14:39.44`	`jaike`	`it was handy...testing an extension`
`14:40.08`	`DrDeke`	`Good morning.`
`14:40.22`	`magic_1`	`morning`
`14:40.38`	`DrDeke`	`I am feeling stupid. Would anyone like to help me debug my problem with receiving IAX authenticated calls from teliax? :)`
`14:40.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Anyone have some Polycom SIP 1.6.2 config files they'd care to share? I just got a Polycom IP 601 with 2 Attendant modules and am trying to get provisioning samples to get it functional...`
`14:40.50`	`indego`	`many: Thanks for the input before, everything seems fine now. LDAP 'realtime' for logins and incoming call lookups against the LDAP addressbook (LDAPget) and web-based call initialisation (asterisk manager interface).`
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`14:43.44`	`DrDeke`	`I am trying to receive calls via authenticated IAX from a teliax DID. They are sending me the call, however, I get the error:`
`14:43.45`	`DrDeke`	`NOTICE[1266]: chan_iax2.c:7183 socket_read: Host 208.139.204.232 failed to authenticate as teliax`
`14:44.21`	`DrDeke`	`I have type=friend, auth=md5, secret=<secret>, host=voip-co3.teliax.com, context=from-teliax1 in my [teliax1] entry in iax.conf...`
`14:44.38`	`DrDeke`	`I have verified that the secret in iax.conf is the same as the secret for my account that is listed on teliax's website.`
`14:44.51`	`DrDeke`	`Is there any way to turn on additional debugging (beyond iax2 debug) that would show WHY the authentication failed?`
`14:45.14`	`DrDeke`	`Right now, all I get is:`
`14:45.27`	`DrDeke`	`CAUSE : No authority found`
`14:45.32`	`DrDeke`	`CAUSE CODE : 50`
`14:46.24`	`indego`	`DrDeke: debug level ??`
`14:46.32`	`DrDeke`	`indego: verbose 5, iax2 debug`
`14:46.45`	`DrDeke`	`Is there a command that I can use to extract more debugging infO ?`
`14:46.47`	`DrDeke`	`info*`
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`14:48.56`	`littleball`	`hello, how to find out which group belong to for a specific channel?`
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`14:50.08`	`DrDeke`	`littleball: What do you mean?`
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`14:50.35`	`littleball`	`DrDeke, i want to find out what channels belong to group 2 from console`
`14:50.43`	`DrDeke`	`What do you mean by "group 2" ?`
`14:50.55`	`littleball`	`i have defined g1 and g2 in /etc/asterisk/zapdata.cfg file`
`14:50.59`	`DrDeke`	`ohhh`
`14:51.00`	`DrDeke`	`ok`
`14:51.16`	`DrDeke`	`I do not know the answer to your question then; I thought you meant something else.`
`14:52.06`	`littleball`	`DrDeke, in /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf file`
`14:52.12`	`littleball`	`i have group = 2 defined....`
`14:52.21`	`littleball`	`i want to confirm them in console`
`14:52.32`	`DrDeke`	`I understand what you're talking about now; I just don't know how to do what you are trying to do :).`
`14:52.46`	`littleball`	`ok`
`14:52.54`	`DrDeke`	`Maybe someone else will wake up and chime in ;)`
`14:53.02`	`Katty`	`don't count on it.`
`14:53.05`	`Katty`	`we're too busy working.`
`14:53.18`	`sivana`	`ya, me too`
`14:54.48`	`DrDeke`	`Work? What is that? ;)`
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`14:59.02`	`pog-fr`	`Hi guys`
`14:59.07`	`DrDeke`	`Good morning.`
`14:59.19`	`DrDeke`	`Or afternoon if you're in France, I guess.`
`14:59.25`	`pog-fr`	`yes i :)`
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`15:00.28`	`pog-fr`	`i've got a lil pb ... trying to got * working with a avaya's s8700`
`15:00.44`	`DrDeke`	`Trying to use "real" telco equipment. That sounds like a BIG problem to me ;)`
`15:01.03`	`pog-fr`	`:P`
`15:01.15`	`pog-fr`	`i've set a h323 trunk`
`15:01.26`	`pog-fr`	`avaya -> * working fine`
`15:01.38`	`pog-fr`	`got sig & rtp work nice, but`
`15:02.49`	`pog-fr`	`* -> avaya , phone ring on avaya but when I answer call on my 4610 , my sip phone on * still see ringing`
`15:02.58`	`pog-fr`	`that a lil pb ^`
`15:03.01`	`pog-fr`	`^_^`
`15:03.04`	`DrDeke`	`hmm`
`15:03.36`	`DrDeke`	`I've never used H.323 with Asterisk, and I have no idea why that would happen.`
`15:03.47`	`DrDeke`	`The knowledgeable folks in the channel seem to be making themselves scarce this morning.`
`15:03.57`	`h3x`	`h323 sucks`
`15:04.00`	`h3x`	`NEXT!`
`15:04.03`	`DrDeke`	`lol`
`15:04.08`	`pog-fr`	`lol!`
`15:04.18`	`DrDeke`	`next? how about previous? As in the question that I previously asked about receiving iax2 authenticated calls ;)`
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`15:07.22`	`DrDeke`	`sigh`
`15:07.31`	`DrDeke`	`These teliax support cats don't seem to wake up very early.`
`15:08.02`	`pog-fr`	`it's around 10:00am ?`
`15:08.35`	`mutilator`	`http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1655977,00.html`
`15:08.42`	`DrDeke`	`It is 10:08am in my time zone; 8:08am in the timezone where I believe they are located.`
`15:09.03`	`DrDeke`	`Wow mutilator, that's nuts!`
`15:10.19`	`littleball`	`hello, i read the doc from voip-forum about Zap/channel-instance , up to 3 logical channels associated with a single physical channel. why 3 logical channels can be associated with a single physical channel? What does logic channels mean?`
`15:11.06`	`mutilator`	`quite`
`15:11.34`	`littleball`	`what is logic channel?`
`15:12.29`	`Nugget`	`chan_xor chan_and chan_or`
`15:13.47`	`benjk`	`~seen kapejod`
`15:13.49`	`jbot`	`kapejod <n=kapejod@83.137.99.168> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 11d 1h 51m 57s ago, saying: 'single BRI'.`
`15:14.24`	`littleball`	`what is logical channel?`
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`15:17.57`	`DrDeke`	`littleball: My guess is that in this case a "logical" channel is something that you can treat as if it were just a single channel in Asterisk, and Asterisk will automatically send it to whatever "real" channel is available, as long as the "real" channel is a part of the logical channel group.`
`15:18.27`	`littleball`	`DrDeke,http://www.google.com/search?q=asterisk+zap+logical+channel&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official`
`15:18.28`	`DrDeke`	`Although that isn't something that I have dealt with in Asterisk, so I don't know for sure.`
`15:18.39`	`littleball`	`Zap/3-2 Second call appearance on Zap channel 3`
`15:18.41`	`Assid`	`haha.. gotta love this.. this guy telling me something wrong with my box.. coz his emails are not reaching and are bouncing..`
`15:18.56`	`littleball`	`Zap/1-1 First call appearance on Zap channel 1`
`15:19.00`	`DrDeke`	`AH HA`
`15:19.01`	`DrDeke`	`yeah`
`15:19.02`	`Assid`	`first i told him that emails require 2 email servers to talk to one another..`
`15:19.17`	`Assid`	`then i just asked him which smtp he's using`
`15:19.17`	`littleball`	`DrDeke, i am wondering whether it is for resource allocation purpose or not`
`15:19.27`	`DrDeke`	`So if I am on the phone on Zap/1, that will be Zap/1-1... Then if someone calls me on that channel and I have call waiting enabled, the incoming call would be on Zap/1-2`
`15:19.30`	`DrDeke`	`I think that is what it means.`
`15:19.32`	`Assid`	`and hes not even using mine.. only mine for incoming`
`15:19.37`	`littleball`	`how can one physical channel be used as a few channels?`
`15:19.51`	`DrDeke`	`littleball: In the sense of three-way calling, call waiting, etc...`
`15:19.54`	`DrDeke`	`(i think)`
`15:20.56`	`littleball`	`DrDeke, hm... you give me some useful indication. ..`
`15:21.03`	`DrDeke`	`I hope so anyway:)`
`15:21.57`	`littleball`	`DrDeke, i have a question. If my system dial out at the same time three outbound calls.`
`15:22.01`	`littleball`	`what will happen?`
`15:22.16`	`littleball`	`all call will be allocated on the same physical channel?`
`15:23.13`	`DrDeke`	`littleball: No.. The only way I can think of that three calls would ever happen on the same physical channel is if you are in a three-way call (Zap/1-1 and Zap/1-2), and then someone calls the Zap/1 channel, so the call-waiting call would come in on Zap/1-3`
`15:23.38`	`devel`	`greetings, all.`
`15:23.45`	`DrDeke`	`good morning`
`15:23.49`	`littleball`	`what is zap/1-2 then?`
`15:24.13`	`DrDeke`	`littleball: zap/1-2 is the second call on a given channel.`
`15:24.18`	`DrDeke`	`For example:`
`15:24.37`	`DrDeke`	`If I pick up the phone connected to zap/1 and place a call, the call will be on zap/1-1`
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`15:24.56`	`littleball`	`yes`
`15:25.06`	`DrDeke`	`If I then flash the hook and place a three-way call, the party that I add to the conversation will be considered to be on zap/1-2`
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`15:26.02`	`littleball`	`DrDeke, wait`
`15:26.03`	`littleball`	`here`
`15:26.07`	`DrDeke`	`o`
`15:26.09`	`DrDeke`	`ok*`
`15:26.18`	`littleball`	`then how can the voice pass to that party?`
`15:26.33`	`littleball`	`through the same physical channel?`
`15:26.53`	`DrDeke`	`Yeah... You are familiar with three-way calling in general, right?`
`15:27.15`	`DrDeke`	`My guess is that Asterisk just "bridges" the zap/1-1 and zap/1-2 channels, so that all three parties can hear audio from any of the other parties.`
`15:28.28`	`littleball`	`DrDeke, i think bridged channels should use different physical channels.`
`15:29.14`	`littleball`	`DrDeke, let me guess... Purely guessing`
`15:29.21`	`DrDeke`	`littleball: Normally, yes. But call waiting and three-way calling are two ways of (sort of) having more than one call on a physical channel.`
`15:29.26`	`DrDeke`	`sure, go ahead :)`
`15:30.12`	`littleball`	`let me think what you said first`
`15:30.45`	`DrDeke`	`ok`
`15:30.53`	`littleball`	`yes, but calling waiting is not bridged calling, right`
`15:30.53`	`littleball`	`?`
`15:31.54`	`DrDeke`	`Right, I would guess that the difference between a call-waiting call and a three-way call is that with call-waiting, asterisk does not bridge the channels (it just switches between them when you flash the hook switch), whereas with three-way calling, it does bridge them.`
`15:32.08`	`DrDeke`	`(This is all more-or-less guessing on my part as well.0`
`15:32.08`	`DrDeke`	`)`
`15:32.34`	`littleball`	`why only three-way calling? any four-way calling?`
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`15:33.15`	`DrDeke`	`I don't know of any phone company that offers more than three-way calling on a standard Analog line, but Asterisk could probably be made to do such a thing.`
`15:33.38`	`DrDeke`	`A former GSM phone company in the USA used to offer 6-way calling from your GSM handset. :)`
`15:33.49`	`littleball`	`i see.`
`15:33.52`	`DrDeke`	`But GSM signalling is a bit more sophisticated than signalling on an analog line :)`
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`15:34.42`	`littleball`	`i think my problem maybe related to this although it is due to different reason:`
`15:35.31`	`littleball`	`i have an external program to trigger outbound calls. sometimes, some of them will fail`
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`15:36.04`	`littleball`	`i am wondering if it is due to channel allocation reason because i used Dial(Zap/g1...)`
`15:36.16`	`littleball`	`now, i try to change to Dial(Zap/r1...)`
`15:36.20`	`sandra78`	`hi, does enybody know in witch store in usa can i buy the ATEUS VoiceBlue`
`15:36.22`	`sandra78`	`??`
`15:37.05`	`DrDeke`	`sandra: Sorry, I have never heard of that product.`
`15:37.07`	`mutilator`	`damnit Druken`
`15:37.15`	`mutilator`	`that fukin megamix is playing again`
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`15:38.04`	`sandra78`	`<DrDeke> sandra: Sorry, I have never heard of that product. its a gsm gateway`
`15:38.07`	`sandra78`	`one port`
`15:38.12`	`DrDeke`	`Ahhhh.`
`15:38.31`	`sandra78`	`but its from europe`
`15:38.47`	`sandra78`	`do you know another cheaper gsm gateway to asterisk?`
`15:38.57`	`littleball`	`sandra78, what is its function?`
`15:39.01`	`DrDeke`	`Is it tri- or quad-band then? Because if it only supports gsm 900/1800, it won't work in north america anyway.`
`15:39.13`	`sandra78`	`ohhh`
`15:39.23`	`DrDeke`	`littleball: Those devices are very fun. They let you connect a mobile phone to your Asterisk machine and use it for incoming and/or outgoing calls.`
`15:39.27`	`sandra78`	`i was reading about cellsocket too`
`15:39.33`	`steff`	`hi all, what's the 't' rule in context ?`
`15:39.43`	`DrDeke`	`sandra78: Mobile carriers in north america use only the 1900MHz and 800/850 MHz bands.`
`15:40.22`	`littleball`	`what is its value?`
`15:40.28`	`sandra78`	`i want to do a little cellular termination with asterisk`
`15:40.37`	`sandra78`	`with cellular`
`15:41.08`	`littleball`	`how many cell phones can one gateway support?`
`15:41.10`	`sandra78`	`i have three options gsm gateway, cellsocket, or usb bluetooth all with asterisk`
`15:41.19`	`DrDeke`	`littleball: It depends on the rate or tariff structure in the country you are in. But, for example, in countries where mobile phones are a caller-pays service, and you need to call people on a certain mobile network a lot, you can sign up for a plan with cheap or unlimited in-network mobile-to-mobile calls, and have Asterisk send calls to that network via the mobile phone.`
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`15:41.31`	`DrDeke`	`littleball: There are gateways ranging from 1 phone to at least 8.`
`15:41.39`	`sandra78`	`the best option is the usb bluetooth channel for asterisl`
`15:41.57`	`DrDeke`	`sandra78: How does that work, though?`
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`15:42.14`	`sandra78`	`it's awesome`
`15:42.29`	`DrDeke`	`Does it work over usb, or over bluetooth?`
`15:42.50`	`sandra78`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Bluetooth+channels`
`15:42.53`	`littleball`	`ok. interesting!`
`15:43.01`	`sandra78`	`yes usb bluetooth`
`15:43.11`	`sandra78`	`you can connect a cellular phone with bluetooth`
`15:43.31`	`DrDeke`	`Oh, wow.`
`15:43.33`	`sandra78`	`and with the chan_btp`
`15:43.38`	`DrDeke`	`I did not know that chan_bluetooth could do that :)`
`15:43.38`	`jj53709`	`newbie question: I just installed AAH 1.21, setup a few extensions, when I dial from x-lite, asterisk says that number is not in the speed dial system, any help? I spent all day trying to get it to connect yesterday`
`15:43.41`	`sandra78`	`that is the asterisk driver`
`15:43.49`	`moonwick`	`"chan_btp does NOT provide call functionality."`
`15:43.54`	`moonwick`	`anyone care to elaborate on that?`
`15:44.24`	`DrDeke`	`moonwick: It looks to me that chan_bluetooth is what you want if you want to use a bluetooth device to place or receive calls, whereas chan_btp is used if you want to make Asterisk do something when a bluetooth device comes in or goes out of range of the asterisk machine.`
`15:44.24`	`sandra78`	`but the info says you want to use with your cellular bluetooth phone`
`15:44.33`	`sandra78`	`you can`
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`15:44.53`	`DrDeke`	`chan_bluetooth does something very much different than chan_btp`
`15:44.59`	`sandra78`	`here in latinamerica the cellular phone calls are bvery expensive`
`15:45.02`	`DrDeke`	`they really do two different things completely; it's just that both things happen to involve bluetooth`
`15:45.09`	`Seba_soy`	`yes sandra`
`15:45.14`	`Seba_soy`	`where are you from sabndra?`
`15:45.19`	`sandra78`	`peru`
`15:45.23`	`DrDeke`	`WHOA WHOA!`
`15:45.24`	`Seba_soy`	`i am from argentina`
`15:45.31`	`sandra78`	`ohhh`
`15:45.33`	`DrDeke`	`Where in Peru are you from?`
`15:45.34`	`sandra78`	`ahahahha`
`15:45.37`	`sandra78`	`lima`
`15:45.42`	`Seba_soy`	`capital`
`15:45.52`	`Seba_soy`	`let me se my rates to PERU LIMA`
`15:45.53`	`DrDeke`	`My cousin's wife is from there; I have been trying to find a way for her to call her Peruvian friends' mobile phones for something less than US$0.25/min ;)`
`15:46.07`	`sandra78`	`yes`
`15:46.11`	`DrDeke`	`Oh, VoIP rates to Lima are very good. It's just that calls to mobile phones are not :)`
`15:46.24`	`DrDeke`	`They have the same caller-pays system that is used in Europe.`
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`15:46.28`	`sandra78`	`if you have a cellular termination in peru only will pay 0.06`
`15:46.39`	`DrDeke`	`sandra78: Exactly :)`
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`15:46.54`	`sandra78`	`you save a lot`
`15:47.08`	`DrDeke`	`sandra78: Her parents have a cable modem at their place in Lima; I am thinking that I should just send a small computer with Asterisk and a mobile phone down there.`
`15:47.25`	`DrDeke`	`Although I do not know if all the people she wants to call use the same mobile network or not.`
`15:47.28`	`sandra78`	`that's why i want to use asterisk to make a cellular little termination`
`15:47.39`	`DrDeke`	`I know there is Telefonica and Nextel.pe... Isn't there also some BellSouth/SBC network?`
`15:47.40`	`DrDeke`	`Exactly :)`
`15:47.50`	`DrDeke`	`sandra78: Which network do you want to terminate calls onto?`
`15:47.54`	`sandra78`	`telefonica`
`15:47.59`	`sandra78`	`cdma`
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`15:48.04`	`DrDeke`	`ohhh`
`15:48.06`	`Ariel_`	`Morning everyone`
`15:48.08`	`DrDeke`	`hehe`
`15:48.11`	`DrDeke`	`I forgot about CDMA :)`
`15:48.12`	`gniretar`	`hi`
`15:48.26`	`DrDeke`	`Does telefonica sell any bluetooth phones with CDMA?`
`15:48.34`	`Ariel_`	`hello Katty ,`
`15:48.41`	`sandra78`	`the solution for CDMA it's a cellsocket connected to a CDMA Phone`
`15:48.46`	`DrDeke`	`Ahh.`
`15:49.08`	`DrDeke`	`sandra78: Maybe you'll be interested to know that on my one visit to Lima Peru, I had better coverage on my CDMA phone (from Telefonica) than I have EVER seen in ANY city in the USA :)`
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`15:49.40`	`sandra78`	`yes`
`15:50.25`	`Seba_soy`	`why here in argentia still using suck GSM`
`15:50.26`	`Seba_soy`	`?`
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`15:50.40`	`DrDeke`	`Seba_soy: Well, GSM came out before CDMA and the whole of Western Europe adopted it.`
`15:50.47`	`sandra78`	`but can i use cellsocket to connect cellular phones? what about the quality?`
`15:50.53`	`DrDeke`	`Seba_soy: Also, CDMA is extremely complicated and many engineers thought that it would never work.`
`15:50.54`	`Seba_soy`	`yes I know`
`15:51.14`	`Seba_soy`	`there is some projects to put CDMA-450 here`
`15:51.18`	`DrDeke`	`!!!`
`15:51.23`	`DrDeke`	`Wow, that will be nice!`
`15:51.28`	`Seba_soy`	`but it is a TELEFONICA monopoly`
`15:51.30`	`DrDeke`	`I wish that we had a 450MHz mobile band in the US`
`15:51.31`	`DrDeke`	`oh`
`15:51.40`	`sandra78`	`i have think connect cellularpho---->cellsocketFXS----->Asterisk FXO`
`15:52.09`	`DrDeke`	`sandra: I think that would work... I have never used a cellsocket device though.`
`15:52.10`	`Seba_soy`	`really TELEFONICA does thinks very very difficult`
`15:52.33`	`DrDeke`	`Seba_soy: I am not at all surprised. The "old" telephone companies in the USA are almost impossible to deal with.`
`15:52.45`	`DrDeke`	`Or at least they were.`
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`15:53.08`	`Seba_soy`	`if you want to interconnect to their networl, there is not other option that using SS7 expensive hardware.`
`15:53.09`	`sandra78`	`here in peru there is CLARO`
`15:53.14`	`sandra78`	`they have CDMA`
`15:53.27`	`DrDeke`	`And that's owned by telefonica, right?`
`15:53.30`	`sandra78`	`and minutes increments`
`15:53.30`	`DrDeke`	`Or is it a different company?`
`15:53.36`	`sandra78`	`no`
`15:53.44`	`corposant`	`can someone here field a quick question re: dtmf and *?`
`15:53.46`	`sandra78`	`CLARO its owned by telmex`
`15:53.49`	`sandra78`	`TELMEX`
`15:53.51`	`DrDeke`	`sandra78: Ahh.`
`15:53.56`	`Seba_soy`	`telmex`
`15:54.14`	`Seba_soy`	`sandra, do you have ISDN-PRI interconnection there?`
`15:54.27`	`sandra78`	`no i wan to`
`15:54.28`	`sandra78`	`ehhe`
`15:54.36`	`sandra78`	`have you used the RFC2?`
`15:54.37`	`Seba_soy`	`so, r2`
`15:54.44`	`Seba_soy`	`I am trying`
`15:54.48`	`sandra78`	`ohh`
`15:54.49`	`DrDeke`	`corposant: I can try.`
`15:54.50`	`sandra78`	`with telmex?`
`15:55.01`	`sandra78`	`there are a lot of spanish information`
`15:55.09`	`sandra78`	`to configure a r2 modified`
`15:55.13`	`Seba_soy`	`all companies here (COMSAT, TELEFONICA, TELECOM, IMPSAT, IPLAN) only accept MFCR2 or SS7`
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`15:55.21`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o anthm] by ChanServ`
`15:55.23`	`DrDeke`	`sandra: I'm just looking around www.claro.com.pe; I had never heard of them before.`
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`15:55.31`	`jj53709`	`are 3xx extensions special? looks like 201 works great, 301 tries speed dial?`
`15:55.43`	`DrDeke`	`What is the current exchange rate between USD and nuevo soles? Is it still ~ 1:3.5?`
`15:55.53`	`DrDeke`	`er soles nuevo :0`
`15:55.59`	`sandra78`	`<DrDeke> claro it was TIM Telmex Bought the company`
`15:56.04`	`DrDeke`	`ohhhhhhh`
`15:56.04`	`sandra78`	`2 months ago`
`15:56.06`	`DrDeke`	`that explains it :0`
`15:56.07`	`DrDeke`	`:)`
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`15:56.40`	`Seba_soy`	`DID you have look with R2 sandra?`
`15:56.50`	`sandra78`	`no yet`
`15:56.54`	`sandra78`	`i have read`
`15:56.55`	`Seba_soy`	`I have never could compile it`
`15:56.55`	`sandra78`	`only`
`15:57.05`	`jaike`	`anyone familiar with this message? ..`
`15:57.10`	`sandra78`	`do you have a r2 now?`
`15:57.11`	`jaike`	`Dec 2 07:55:23 WARNING[3585]: chan_iax2.c:7971 network_thread: chan_iax2: ast_sched_runq ran 1499 scheduled tasks all at once`
`15:57.18`	`sandra78`	`how much it cost in argentina a e1?`
`15:57.22`	`Seba_soy`	`yes, but with CISCO-5350`
`15:57.25`	`sandra78`	`ohhh`
`15:57.37`	`Seba_soy`	`wel, here in argentina`
`15:57.45`	`sandra78`	`yes you migh take experience with asterisk`
`15:58.01`	`Seba_soy`	`1Mb bandwidth bi-directional (upload and download, international) it is about 400 and 900 USD`
`15:58.11`	`sandra78`	`i don't have a e1 to practice`
`15:58.28`	`sandra78`	`but i will`
`15:58.33`	`Seba_soy`	`1 e1 IS ABOUT 150 USD in-site, 300 usd OUT OF SITE...`
`15:58.46`	`DrDeke`	`Seba_soy: Man, that is CHEAP compared to in the USA :)`
`15:58.47`	`Seba_soy`	`ifyou put equipment on company NOC, is 150usd aprox.`
`15:58.50`	`DrDeke`	`(dollar for dollar, anyway)`
`15:58.50`	`sandra78`	`what does mean with In side and out side?'`
`15:58.54`	`sandra78`	`ohhhhhhh`
`15:58.57`	`sandra78`	`cheaper`
`15:59.01`	`DrDeke`	`well, yeah`
`15:59.04`	`sandra78`	`150usd plus minutes?`
`15:59.11`	`sandra78`	`package?`
`15:59.16`	`Seba_soy`	`out side is when E1 is at your location`
`15:59.29`	`Seba_soy`	`it is from 300usd`
`15:59.30`	`Seba_soy`	`or more`
`15:59.34`	`*** join/#asterisk javar (n=javar@69.79.133.185)`
`15:59.34`	`Seba_soy`	`depending location`
`15:59.41`	`M_at`	`Anyone else here have trouble with www.asterisk.org on Safari on Mac OS X?`
`15:59.43`	`Seba_soy`	`150usd plux MINUTES`
`15:59.58`	`Seba_soy`	`150 usd is a fixed rate`
`16:00.04`	`javar`	`Hola Seba_soy`
`16:00.09`	`Seba_soy`	`hola javar`
`16:00.15`	`javar`	`como estas?`
`16:00.16`	`sandra78`	`what include the 150 usd?`
`16:00.18`	`Seba_soy`	`bien!`
`16:00.25`	`Seba_soy`	`1 E1, not more`
`16:00.28`	`DrDeke`	`hey, can one of you tell me how to say, "I don't know" in Spanish?`
`16:00.33`	`benjk`	`Matt what trouble?`
`16:00.43`	`Seba_soy`	`"I don't know", "no se"`
`16:00.44`	`sandra78`	`i want to pay 2 month to practice`
`16:00.44`	`sandra78`	`hehe`
`16:00.45`	`M_at`	`it pops up as thevoice.digium.com`
`16:00.47`	`Seba_soy`	`"no lo se"`
`16:00.47`	`DrDeke`	`ahh, thanks`
`16:00.49`	`javar`	`tienes algun problema`
`16:00.58`	`Seba_soy`	`porque la pregunta javar?`
`16:01.15`	`Seba_soy`	`know=>saber`
`16:01.21`	`Seba_soy`	`I => "yo"`
`16:01.30`	`Seba_soy`	`do not = "no"`
`16:01.39`	`javar`	`no pues generalmente pocas las personas que entran aca.. saben espanol.. y pues estoy haciendo amigos que hablen espanol :-(`
`16:01.45`	`Seba_soy`	`buenisimo`
`16:01.49`	`sandra78`	`pls english`
`16:01.51`	`javar`	`:-)`
`16:01.56`	`DrDeke`	`What about the 'lo'? Is that some kind of reflexive indicator? (Sorry, I don't know the correct grammar terms for most languages)`
`16:01.57`	`Seba_soy`	`hay q ir a privado`
`16:02.02`	`javar`	`vale`
`16:02.08`	`Seba_soy`	`'lo'?`
`16:02.12`	`DrDeke`	`in 'no lo se'`
`16:02.24`	`Seba_soy`	`mm, how to explain it`
`16:02.36`	`freezer`	any germans here`?
`16:02.38`	`Seba_soy`	`"no se" is more street vocabulary`
`16:02.41`	`DrDeke`	`ok`
`16:02.43`	`Seba_soy`	`"no lo se" is a lot formal`
`16:02.50`	`benjk`	`its probably like the y and en in French`
`16:02.53`	`DrDeke`	`good enough for me :)`
`16:03.16`	`Seba_soy`	`Frenchs is bad`
`16:03.28`	`benjk`	`French is cool`
`16:03.33`	`Seba_soy`	`too complicated`
`16:03.39`	`Corydon-w`	`Hey, now, speak either ancient Gaelic or nothing at all... ;-)`
`16:03.43`	`Seba_soy`	`pronunciation is evil`
`16:03.44`	`anthm`	`oh c'est chouette!`
`16:03.46`	`freezer`	`i had french in schoon and i hated it :D`
`16:03.48`	`benjk`	`vive la France!`
`16:04.02`	`freezer`	`school`
`16:04.19`	`Seba_soy`	`Aguante el castellano!`
`16:04.24`	`benjk`	`I hated French class too, but I love the language`
`16:04.34`	`DrDeke`	`Why can't everyone just study Esperanto as a 2nd language in school? ;)`
`16:04.41`	`DrDeke`	`How nice would that be!`
`16:04.48`	`Seba_soy`	`spanish?`
`16:05.08`	`benjk`	`no Esperanto is not Spanish`
`16:05.08`	`DrDeke`	`no, there is this language called Esperanto which nobody speaks natively, but it was made up by linguists to be as easy to learn as possible`
`16:05.20`	`DrDeke`	`(all verbs end in a certain letter, all nouns end in a certain letter, there are NO exceptions to any rules, and so on)`
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`16:05.55`	`DrDeke`	`Ok, I take that back. Wikipedia says that there are about 1000 native Esperanto speakers in the world :)`
`16:05.56`	`Seba_soy`	`so, spanish for you is difficult`
`16:06.20`	`DrDeke`	`Only because I have not studied it formally.`
`16:06.40`	`benjk`	`trouble is if people start using it on a daily basis and it becomes a living language you will soon get all the same irregularities and oddities that living languages have`
`16:06.40`	`Seba_soy`	`it is not difficult`
`16:07.00`	`DrDeke`	`I seem to learn languages backwards compared to most people... The only way I can do it is to sit down and study the grammar rules and spelling rules and that kind of thing, and THEN start learning words and putting them together.`
`16:07.03`	`anthm`	`can you make asterisk modules with it ?`
`16:07.05`	`DrDeke`	`Otherwise I just don't remember anything.`
`16:07.14`	`DrDeke`	`benjk: True, I suppose.`
`16:07.54`	`Seba_soy`	`well, I think english is a easy language, except for pronunciation.`
`16:10.44`	`DrDeke`	`brb`
`16:12.37`	`_Sam--`	`is there a way to use anything other than the # sign to initiate PBX transfers? on outgoing calls, i want our sales guys to be able to PBX transfer, but they need to use the # sign for outgoing calls - IVRs etc`
`16:12.49`	`nfi\|ermes`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:13.29`	`anthm`	`sam see features.conf`
`16:13.34`	`_Sam--`	`ty`
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`16:14.47`	`darkskiez`	`_Sam--: i set mine to ##`
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`16:14.58`	`_Sam--`	`ty again very much -- i see it!`
`16:15.36`	`nfi\|ermes`	`darkskiez, i set atxfer to ##, but in this way blindxfer doesn t work`
`16:15.46`	`_Sam--`	`this is supported in the 1.0.x versions : [featuremap]`
`16:15.46`	`_Sam--`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:15.51`	`darkskiez`	`nfi\|ermes: i tell a lie, i set attxfer to it`
`16:16.06`	`darkskiez`	`nfi\|ermes: changed blind to *2`
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`16:16.49`	`stevek`	`M_at: works for me.`
`16:17.05`	`nfi\|ermes`	`do they work both in that way ?`
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`16:19.10`	`dandan`	`hey all`
`16:19.18`	`dandan`	`is astman broken?`
`16:19.23`	`dandan`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:19.27`	`dandan`	`and it doesn't start`
`16:19.30`	`dandan`	`on slackware 10.2`
`16:19.36`	`dandan`	`1.2.0 compiled from source`
`16:19.38`	`benjk`	`why? did it ever work?`
`16:19.50`	`dandan`	`i do not know ^_^`
`16:19.56`	`dandan`	`just decided to give it a shot`
`16:20.12`	`benjk`	`me thinks not`
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`16:20.27`	`dandan`	`i always used either CLI or manual file edit`
`16:20.31`	`dandan`	`benjk: ty`
`16:20.34`	`dandan`	`i didn't know`
`16:20.45`	`benjk`	`not sure though`
`16:20.59`	`benjk`	`my impression has always been it is abandonware`
`16:21.21`	`dandan`	`hm, i just spent 2 days building packages for slackware 10.2`
`16:21.29`	`dandan`	`gotta submit it to linuxpackages.net`
`16:21.29`	`dandan`	`:)`
`16:21.51`	`dandan`	`what an inconsistent piece of software * is!`
`16:22.10`	`benjk`	`you are releasing a package right after you built it?`
`16:22.15`	`dandan`	`no`
`16:22.24`	`benjk`	`no testing? no QA?`
`16:22.26`	`dandan`	`i will submit it`
`16:22.32`	`dandan`	`then they do testing/qa`
`16:22.37`	`benjk`	`what;s the differentce`
`16:22.43`	`dandan`	`well`
`16:22.49`	`dandan`	`it builds very well`
`16:22.53`	`dandan`	`i just placed files`
`16:22.56`	`benjk`	`who is they? your users?`
`16:22.56`	`dandan`	`in right places`
`16:23.05`	`dandan`	`no, owners at linuxpackages.net`
`16:23.17`	`dandan`	`I have submitted quite a few packages`
`16:23.22`	`dandan`	`which have been accepted`
`16:23.40`	`benjk`	`ah well, I guess on Linux it is alright`
`16:23.43`	`dandan`	`i proud myself in not making POS's...`
`16:23.49`	`dandan`	`what are you on?`
`16:23.54`	`dandan`	`OSX? F-BSD?`
`16:24.11`	`dandan`	`ah, macker :)`
`16:24.15`	`benjk`	`well, I typically spent 6 months on testing before I release a package`
`16:24.39`	`dandan`	`you know what will happen with * in 6 mnths time`
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`16:24.47`	`benjk`	`who cares`
`16:24.51`	`dandan`	`it is just a matter of build scripts well written`
`16:24.58`	`dandan`	`i see that you are closer to debian`
`16:24.58`	`dandan`	`:)`
`16:25.02`	`benjk`	`stability and reliability is comes first`
`16:25.03`	`dandan`	`than to fedora`
`16:25.11`	`benjk`	`second comes stability and reliability`
`16:25.19`	`dandan`	`benjk: but there is a balance...`
`16:25.20`	`benjk`	`then stability and reliability`
`16:25.32`	`benjk`	`not for where I come from`
`16:25.33`	`dandan`	`between staying on top of things`
`16:25.43`	`benjk`	`from`
`16:25.45`	`dandan`	`(features/code changes etc.)`
`16:26.00`	`benjk`	`I am an IT man of the 70s`
`16:26.04`	`dandan`	`and being stable/secure/anything else...`
`16:26.11`	`benjk`	`back then IT meant professionalism`
`16:26.14`	`dandan`	`benjk: LoL :)`
`16:26.25`	`dandan`	`i adhere to those guidelines`
`16:26.36`	`dandan`	`unfortunately it is moving at much faster pace now`
`16:26.43`	`dandan`	`than it was in the '70's`
`16:26.49`	`nfi\|ermes`	`http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/056Qdn10.html`
`16:27.08`	`benjk`	`unfortunately there are too many script kiddies now`
`16:27.15`	`nfi\|ermes`	`anyone has any idea on this problem ???`
`16:27.16`	`dandan`	`benjk: oh i agree`
`16:27.23`	`syzygybsd`	`what is the problem nfi\|ermes`
`16:27.28`	`dandan`	`that's why I am still with 2.4/slackware`
`16:27.29`	`DrDeke`	`dandan: You remind me of our head unix admin here at work... The guy simply WILL NOT BELIEVE that someone my age knows how to be conservative and/or responsible when it comes to administration :)`
`16:27.29`	`syzygybsd`	`ahh`
`16:27.32`	`fenlander`	`dandan: depends on your perspective... we certainly re-invent things faster these days`
`16:27.37`	`DrDeke`	`Which, for the most part, is probably true :)`
`16:27.39`	`dandan`	`ubuntu and others do not impress me`
`16:27.54`	`nfi\|ermes`	`i get hangup signal , cause channel status is unknown`
`16:27.59`	`dandan`	`DrDeke: is he un*x/win admin?`
`16:28.01`	`nfi\|ermes`	`http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/056Qdn10.html`
`16:28.09`	`DrDeke`	`dandan: UNIX only. Lucky bastard ;)`
`16:28.12`	`DrDeke`	`Well, UNIX/Linux only`
`16:28.19`	`dandan`	`fenlander: indeed`
`16:28.24`	`dandan`	`DrDeke: is he still in 2.2 days?`
`16:28.24`	`dandan`	`:)`
`16:28.26`	`syzygybsd`	`nfi\|ermes: what is the extension that is being called?`
`16:28.46`	`syzygybsd`	`you don't have any defined in that piece of the dialplan`
`16:28.53`	`DrDeke`	`We run Solaris 2.8 and 2.9, and Linux 2.4.21 here ;)`
`16:28.57`	`dandan`	`DrDeke: YOUR age?`
`16:29.04`	`syzygybsd`	`so after the start -> invalid extension`
`16:29.07`	`DrDeke`	`dandan: Yeah, I'm a youngin. 23.`
`16:29.10`	`dandan`	`oh`
`16:29.11`	`dandan`	`right`
`16:29.13`	`dandan`	`:)`
`16:29.14`	`DrDeke`	`:)`
`16:29.24`	`dandan`	`benjk: that's your script kiddie :>`
`16:29.46`	`syzygybsd`	`glad I am not the only one who wasn't alive in the 70's`
`16:29.56`	`dandan`	`syg: like I was? :>`
`16:30.02`	`DrDeke`	`I kind of wish I had been alive in the 70s. Then I would have gotten to grow up during the 80s ;)`
`16:30.08`	`iCEBrkr`	`Could you speak up, I can't hear you so well... and where's my damn walker at?`
`16:30.13`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damn kids! Get off my lawn!`
`16:30.14`	`DrDeke`	`Think of how much Knight Rider and MacGyver I could have watched!! grin`
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`16:30.37`	`Kernel_core`	`hi all`
`16:30.38`	`syzygybsd`	`DrDeke: I watched it, just too young to really appriciate it`
`16:30.44`	`dandan`	`DrDeke: I remember those`
`16:30.47`	`iCEBrkr`	`DrDeke: ha! I have one of those.. Somewhere?`
`16:30.55`	`dandan`	`and 9-pin dot matrix printers`
`16:30.55`	`iCEBrkr`	`actually, I may have pitched it.`
`16:30.59`	`dandan`	`printing on A0 format`
`16:31.18`	`iCEBrkr`	`dandan: I can repair an Okidata 320 in my sleep!`
`16:31.34`	`Kernel_core`	`can asterisk transcode from Speex to any other codecs ? ( like ulaw/alaw or gsm ) ?`
`16:31.39`	`dandan`	`OH NO! the LOUD MONSTER!`
`16:31.51`	`DrDeke`	`iCEBrkr: Actually I sort of acquired this one from an abandoned factory... It is nuts though. Manufactured by Imation. Handwritten label says "__FINAL__ Pre-Y2K Copy"`
`16:31.58`	`DrDeke`	`I mean, Y2K? 8" floppy?`
`16:32.03`	`dandan`	`although 24-pin were much nicer (<= remembers Panasonic)`
`16:32.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`DrDeke: wow`
`16:32.19`	`DrDeke`	`yeah`
`16:32.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`DrDeke: I forget where I got mine from. I think it was from some machine shop.`
`16:32.30`	`dandan`	`Y2K :) i still have like 2 or 3 books about it :)`
`16:32.32`	`DrDeke`	`Everything in this factory was at least as obsolete as this floppy, however :)`
`16:32.57`	`DrDeke`	`Part of the factory complex is a 30MW electrical + steam power plant, which contains 0 computers.`
`16:32.59`	`iCEBrkr`	`Kernel_core: Not sure why you'd wanna do that.`
`16:33.01`	`dandan`	`DrDeke: LOL :)`
`16:33.08`	`dandan`	`0? all pen and paper?`
`16:33.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`Yea, I think some of the old CNC machines stored their programs on 8" floppies.`
`16:33.36`	`DrDeke`	`dandan: Analog control circuits :)`
`16:33.42`	`DrDeke`	`iCEBrkr: This was a paper machine; close enough.`
`16:33.50`	`dandan`	`sweet`
`16:33.55`	`Kernel_core`	`iCEBrkr: because my link is so poor , I can connect to my asterisk with Speex , and asterisk bridge my call through SIP to a Cisco and call takes place....`
`16:33.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`I really can't recall where I got this floppy from. But it was a machine-shop of some sort. Long long ago!`
`16:33.59`	`DrDeke`	`hehe`
`16:34.18`	`DrDeke`	`http://www.alliedpaper.org/gp/powerhouse/turbineroom.html (username gpkal password gpkal, just to keep the search engines / cops / etc out until I finish exploring the place)`
`16:34.19`	`iCEBrkr`	`Kernel_core: It'll transcode if you allow it and it'll suck up all your CPU :)`
`16:34.22`	`Kernel_core`	`but when I place call I get error in asterisk about transcoding ...`
`16:34.51`	`nfi\|ermes`	`syzygybsd`
`16:34.54`	`Kernel_core`	`iCEBrkr: I don't have problem for CPU , I have 2.8 Intel without anyload :)`
`16:34.58`	`dandan`	`anyway: so I should give up on astman?`
`16:35.01`	`nfi\|ermes`	`the call come from pstn`
`16:35.04`	`dandan`	`anyone using it with 1.2?`
`16:35.11`	`syzygybsd`	`nfi\|ermes: yes?`
`16:35.11`	`iCEBrkr`	`dandan: yea, just give it up :P`
`16:35.28`	`nfi\|ermes`	`i have isdn line`
`16:35.30`	`syzygybsd`	`nfi\|ermes: can you paste your ext-local part of your dialplan`
`16:35.38`	`nfi\|ermes`	`attached to an hfc isdn card`
`16:35.41`	`dandan`	`i spent like 30mins trying to find a friggin' newt-lib to build this astman`
`16:35.42`	`nfi\|ermes`	`ok`
`16:35.51`	`dandan`	`and another 15 building and testing package :)`
`16:35.59`	`dandan`	`and now you are telling me it is a POC?`
`16:36.04`	`iCEBrkr`	`dandan: It really doesn't do much.`
`16:36.17`	`dandan`	`heh, now I am disappointed`
`16:36.18`	`dandan`	`:)`
`16:36.25`	`dandan`	`not like it matters :)`
`16:36.31`	`dandan`	`i am disappointed 24/7`
`16:36.33`	`Kernel_core`	`iCEBrkr: I get this error`
`16:36.34`	`Kernel_core`	`Dec 2 17:36:09 WARNING[25294]: channel.c:2675 ast_channel_make_compatible: No path to translate from SIP/54322-9293(512) to SIP/cisco1-e2bb(1)`
`16:36.34`	`Kernel_core`	`Dec 2 17:36:09 WARNING[25294]: app_dial.c:1556 dial_exec_full: Had to drop call because I couldn't make SIP/54322-9293 compatible with SIP/cisco1-e2bb`
`16:36.47`	`iCEBrkr`	`Kernel_core: you have to 'allow' it.`
`16:36.55`	`Kernel_core`	`how do I ?`
`16:36.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`Kernel_core: err, depending on your disallow`
`16:37.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`Kernel_core: sip.conf`
`16:37.07`	`jaike`	`allow=all`
`16:37.10`	`jaike`	`hehe`
`16:37.11`	`iCEBrkr`	`tho, I've never gotten speex to work..`
`16:37.20`	`jaike`	`if uve enough bandwidth`
`16:37.46`	`dandan`	`ok, I am going into LURK-MODE`
`16:37.49`	`nfi\|ermes`	`syzygybsd, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/i2ZG0093.html`
`16:37.49`	`Kernel_core`	`in both my cisco and my client part I have " allow=all "`
`16:37.53`	`dandan`	`yell if you need me :)`
`16:37.59`	`dandan`	`or have anything about astman`
`16:37.59`	`dandan`	`:)`
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`16:39.04`	`brettnem`	`hey all`
`16:39.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`brettnem: hey`
`16:39.29`	`Kernel_core`	`jaike: I have enough BW cause my asterisk is connected to to Cisco , with 100Mb link`
`16:41.21`	`jaike`	`kernel: ive no experience with speex either but you might need to load codec_speex.so or something`
`16:41.46`	`jaike`	`i had those error msgs too when i tried g729 without the coded being loaded`
`16:41.50`	`jaike`	`codec`
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`16:42.21`	`Kernel_core`	`jaike: i can make call between 2 speex softphone with asterisk so speex is working ...`
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`16:42.33`	`syzygybsd`	`nfi\|ermes: hmm, don't know. Looks like asterisk can't get the status of your zap channel. I don't have that much experiance in this area`
`16:43.03`	`freezer`	any germans here`?
`16:44.28`	`Kernel_core`	`jaike: it seems you are right ! cause I can't see speex when I issue " show modules"`
`16:44.55`	`jaike`	`yup..was checking the modules..ddnt find any speex`
`16:44.56`	`DrDeke`	`freezer: No, but if you know of any nice German girls, age range of 22-25, who are interested in airplanes, telephony, photography and/or general nerdiness, give me the address of their Asterisk server and I'll work on becoming one ;)`
`16:45.27`	`Kernel_core`	`how do I active it on my box ?!`
`16:46.38`	`jaike`	`try googling..youll have to download, compile and put it in your /usr/lib/asterisk/modules folder`
`16:46.43`	`jaike`	`then try loading the module`
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`16:47.56`	`Kernel_core`	`found something ...`
`16:48.03`	`darkskiez`	`DrDeke: wow, desperate friday! get yourself out to the pub`
`16:48.27`	`DrDeke`	`darkskiez: haha yeah :)`
`16:49.25`	`nfi\|ermes`	`iCEBrkr, are you there ?`
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`16:49.44`	`jaike`	`from wiki...The Speex codec requires that you install the Speex libraries from http://www.speex.org. For ODBC routines and the Speex codec, the Asterisk build process will recognize that you have the necessary libraries and build the modules needed. If you haven't got the libraries, you will get no error messages.`
`16:50.58`	`brettnem`	`ugh. I can't get ntp syncing.. wtf`
`16:52.17`	`iCEBrkr`	`nfi\|ermes: whutup?`
`16:53.46`	`docelmo`	`NO!`
`16:53.51`	`dandan`	`am I mistaken, or there was a script to install mailboxes`
`16:53.58`	`dandan`	`brettnem: is this for the first time?`
`16:54.17`	`brettnem`	`dandan: on this server, yes`
`16:54.23`	`dandan`	`can you do ntpdate ?`
`16:54.27`	`dandan`	`ntpdate tick.mit.edu ?`
`16:54.28`	`brettnem`	`it's not skewed > 1000s`
`16:54.31`	`dandan`	`for example?`
`16:54.34`	`brettnem`	`yeah I can`
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`16:54.38`	`paryl`	`hello all`
`16:54.48`	`DrDeke`	`woohoo! fixed my teliax auth problem`
`16:54.51`	`dandan`	`hm, is your connection stable reliable and low ping?`
`16:54.55`	`brettnem`	`dandan: it's skewed -425 or so.. think I need to sync it first?`
`16:55.03`	`brettnem`	`dandan: yeah it's a good connection`
`16:55.03`	`dandan`	`brettnem: yes`
`16:55.10`	`brettnem`	`dandan: I'll try that..`
`16:55.22`	`dandan`	`i assume you have a working ntp.conf`
`16:55.23`	`paryl`	`is anyone here familiar with astmanproxy?`
`16:55.41`	`brettnem`	`dandan: yeah, same one I got running on about 10 servers.. heh`
`16:55.57`	`dandan`	`interesting...`
`16:56.22`	`brettnem`	`dandan: nope.. that still didn't do it.`
`16:56.31`	`brettnem`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:56.46`	`jaike`	`brettnem: stop ntp first before doing ntpdate`
`16:56.51`	`brettnem`	`yeah I did`
`16:57.00`	`brettnem`	`can't actually do a ntpdate with ntp running`
`16:57.09`	`dandan`	`brettnem: it doesn't reach the server`
`16:57.18`	`brettnem`	`ntpdate worked fine`
`16:57.24`	`dandan`	`try replacing domain names with IP addresses`
`16:57.27`	`dandan`	`that worked for me`
`16:57.31`	`dandan`	`I had the same problem`
`16:57.37`	`brettnem`	`[root@DLLSTX37A01 asterisk]# ntpdate -q time.nist.gov`
`16:57.37`	`brettnem`	`Looking for host time.nist.gov and service ntp`
`16:57.37`	`brettnem`	`host found : time.nist.gov`
`16:57.38`	`brettnem`	`server 192.43.244.18, stratum 1, offset -0.010183, delay 0.05255`
`16:57.38`	`brettnem`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:58.02`	`brettnem`	`hmm.. I'll try that.. that'd be weird..`
`16:58.07`	`dandan`	`restrict 18.145.0.30 mask 255.255.255.255 nomodify notrap noquery`
`16:58.07`	`dandan`	`restrict 129.6.15.29 mask 255.255.255.255 nomodify notrap noquery`
`16:58.07`	`dandan`	`restrict 198.123.30.132 mask 255.255.255.255 nomodify notrap noquery`
`16:58.07`	`dandan`	`server 18.145.0.30 prefer`
`16:58.07`	`dandan`	`server 198.123.30.132`
`16:58.07`	`dandan`	`server 129.6.15.29`
`16:58.21`	`jaike`	`i think ntpdate worked`
`16:58.24`	`dandan`	`all strat 1, all different sources`
`16:58.31`	`dandan`	`ntpdate worked for me too`
`16:58.32`	`mkrufky`	`does anyone do any trancoding in asterisk to/from Rhetorex formats?`
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`16:59.40`	`brettnem`	`no, putting in IPs didn't work either.. anything fancy I need to do for a multihomed box?`
`16:59.46`	`sandra78`	`hi`
`16:59.48`	`jaike`	`ntpdate -q only queries right?`
`16:59.58`	`jaike`	`ntpdate -u`
`17:00.25`	`dandan`	`no idea...`
`17:00.26`	`dandan`	`:)`
`17:00.33`	`dandan`	`brettnem: no`
`17:00.39`	`dandan`	`it works for me no problems`
`17:00.46`	`dandan`	`did you try tcpdump'ing?`
`17:00.51`	`dandan`	`firewall?`
`17:00.56`	`ful\|work`	`ntp -iqp`
`17:01.01`	`brettnem`	`no firewall.`
`17:01.04`	`ful\|work`	`ntpq -inp`
`17:01.24`	`nfi\|ermes`	`iCEBrkr, can u have a look to my problem ?`
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`17:02.10`	`dandan`	`brettnem: whatever you do do not cron ntpdate...`
`17:02.24`	`dandan`	`that's the worst way to set your clock`
`17:02.40`	`brettnem`	`dandan: yeah I know..`
`17:02.44`	`brettnem`	`need ntpd working..`
`17:02.44`	`DrDeke`	`dandan: Why? How should it be done?`
`17:02.46`	`DrDeke`	`oh`
`17:03.03`	`DrDeke`	`What is the difference between using ntpdate and ntpd?`
`17:03.05`	`dandan`	`DrDeke: it creates a discontinuum of time`
`17:03.12`	`dandan`	`the way to do it is with ntpd`
`17:03.16`	`DrDeke`	`ahh, so ntpd will just slow down or speed up the clock until it is correct or something?`
`17:03.18`	`dandan`	`where it speeds up/slows down your rtc`
`17:03.23`	`dandan`	`yeah`
`17:03.28`	`DrDeke`	`gee, i better switch :)`
`17:03.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`nfi\|ermes: What's the problem?`
`17:03.37`	`DrDeke`	`as i recently set up all of my servers to cron ntpdate against time.nist.gov ;)`
`17:03.43`	`nfi\|ermes`	`http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/i2ZG0093.html`
`17:03.46`	`brettnem`	`yeah, don't do that`
`17:03.46`	`dandan`	`heh :)))`
`17:03.50`	`jaike`	`hehe`
`17:03.52`	`nfi\|ermes`	`i get hangup signal , cause channel status is unknown`
`17:04.04`	`iCEBrkr`	`dandan: Why's putting ntpdate in cron.daily a bad thing??`
`17:04.08`	`brettnem`	`dandan: so any ideas here.. ntpd just isn't syncing..`
`17:04.12`	`brettnem`	`iCEBrkr: you'`
`17:04.16`	`DrDeke`	`A piece of your dialplan? Is that kind of like a piece of your mind? "I'm gonna give him a PIECE OF MY DIALPLAN when I see him!"`
`17:04.18`	`jaike`	`youll have freaky dates on your logs`
`17:04.22`	`brettnem`	`you'll probably cyclicly go in and out of sync`
`17:04.26`	`nfi\|ermes`	`i don t understand the reason why gthe status become sunknown`
`17:04.34`	`dandan`	`iCEBrkr: look up`
`17:04.41`	`dandan`	`or here: http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/ntpdate.html`
`17:04.45`	`dandan`	`and many other places...`
`17:04.45`	`iCEBrkr`	`Cuz your log dates are off a little?`
`17:05.00`	`dandan`	`iCEBrkr: logfiles are very minor problem`
`17:05.23`	`dandan`	`vpn and many other services rely on correct rtc`
`17:05.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`Well your date/time needs to get set regardless, so you're gonna have that.`
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`17:05.45`	`dandan`	`iCEBrkr: i agree i use ntpdate to set the time INITIALLY`
`17:05.49`	`dandan`	`then it is up to ntpd`
`17:06.11`	`jaike`	`ntp isnt a problem to me...default install and having it running..it goes smoothly`
`17:06.19`	`paryl`	`is anyone here familiar with astmanproxy? documentation is so sketchy, i can't seem to form a request that it understands...`
`17:06.24`	`Nugget`	`alternately, there's a flag for ntpd that will make it behave the same as running ntpdate first.`
`17:06.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`um, I thought ntpd was the server for 'clients' to pull time/date?`
`17:06.35`	`sandra78`	`<DrDeke> today i gonna test the bluetooth channel i have heard from a friend that he connected 4 cell phones to asterisk`
`17:06.37`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: Yea, I use it..`
`17:06.42`	`Nugget`	`but in general, yes, totally, yes. You absolutely need to make sure the clocks are very close before starting ntpd.`
`17:06.49`	`DrDeke`	`sandra78: Cool! Let me know how it works out, ok?`
`17:06.57`	`dandan`	`Nugget: yup`
`17:07.18`	`Nugget`	`ntpd is the only sane way to keep the local clock in sync. just running ntpdate periodically is risky and less effective.`
`17:07.20`	`dandan`	`otherwise it is either a) impossible to set the clock right or b) takes a bit too long to do it`
`17:07.34`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: I have it running in debug mode, and every time i connect to it it says "asterisk@127.0.0.1 got: Message: Missing action in request"`
`17:07.43`	`Nugget`	`ntpd will slew the clock, eliminating jumps (forward or backward) in time, which can be critically important to applications and is much saner for logging`
`17:07.54`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: It's just a proxy to the manage port which uses the manage API`
`17:07.59`	`moonwick`	`kinda like how I slew my speech when I'm drunk?`
`17:08.01`	`nextime`	`what's the max ping to a peer to obtain a good quality latence on a sip link in your opinion?`
`17:08.03`	`dandan`	`Nugget: that's what I said ^^`
`17:08.03`	`Nugget`	`and ntpd can sanity-check among several time sources to ensure that if some other admin screws up it doesn't pollute your local clock.`
`17:08.03`	`dandan`	`:)`
`17:08.11`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: which means you have to issue the Action: Login type stuff before you can use it`
`17:08.20`	`jaike`	`nextime: 300 roundtrip`
`17:08.29`	`jaike`	`max`
`17:08.32`	`nextime`	`jaike : thanks`
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`17:08.40`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: oh... but, i thought it logged in itself?`
`17:08.41`	`nextime`	`so 165 ms is ok.`
`17:08.48`	`dandan`	`Nugget: that's why I have 4 peers: 2 ipv4 and 2 ipv6`
`17:08.49`	`jaike`	`yup`
`17:08.56`	`dandan`	`just in case one/two die :)`
`17:09.12`	`dandan`	`s/die/die(s)`
`17:09.16`	`Nugget`	`"die" isn't the scary though. What if one of them gets its clock off by an hour? :)`
`17:09.21`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: it does.. I'm just saying it still follows the manage api`
`17:09.24`	`Nugget`	`that's why you want to use ntpd`
`17:09.31`	`dandan`	`Nugget: then hm, sux :)`
`17:09.38`	`brettnem`	`dandan: you think this is a problem: addto_syslog: kernel time sync disabled 0041`
`17:09.52`	`moonwick`	`ntpd :: ntpdate == postgresql :: mysql`
`17:09.53`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: well, the problem i'm running into is that is isn't understanding my request`
`17:10.05`	`dandan`	`Dec 1 15:12:36 voip ntpd[260]: kernel time sync disabled 0041`
`17:10.10`	`dandan`	`i have the same thing`
`17:10.13`	`brettnem`	`moonwick: haha`
`17:10.15`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: i'm trying to connect to it using GET in a browser`
`17:10.20`	`dandan`	`after it checks/sets the rtc`
`17:10.29`	`brettnem`	`dandan: hmm I wonder why just this one box won't sync!`
`17:10.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: I haven't used the proxy with the HTTP protocol`
`17:10.40`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: only the native and XML stuff`
`17:10.42`	`dandan`	`brettnem: are kernel versions the same?`
`17:10.45`	`dandan`	`and hardware?`
`17:10.56`	`dandan`	`Nugget: what I do is cron hwclock --systohc`
`17:10.59`	`dandan`	`every 24h`
`17:11.02`	`iCEBrkr`	`nfi\|ermes: Um, it's hanging up cuz s,7,background() is the last priority`
`17:11.13`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: ah... well, may i ask how to talk to it? i'm not really familiar with the regular API, so i'm soo lost :)`
`17:11.14`	`brettnem`	`dandan: yeah, they are..`
`17:11.24`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: hehe`
`17:11.29`	`dandan`	`brettnem: i do not know what to tell you...`
`17:11.35`	`dandan`	`it is strange indeed`
`17:11.35`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: It's partly documented on the wiki.`
`17:11.39`	`dandan`	`i would try tcpdump`
`17:11.40`	`dandan`	`on the box`
`17:11.49`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: i guess the 'partly' part is what gets me`
`17:11.59`	`dandan`	`to see if it sends any packets to 123`
`17:11.59`	`dandan`	`...`
`17:12.01`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: i can't seem to understand the docs for the life of me`
`17:12.12`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: Well, it's pretty simple.. what are you trying to do?`
`17:12.28`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: i'm trying to use it to get the status of agents`
`17:12.30`	`DrDeke`	`So what are some good (reliable) ntp servers to set ntpd to query?`
`17:12.38`	`brettnem`	`dandan: ok, so I'm watching 123`
`17:12.41`	`DrDeke`	`i mean, time.nist.gov obviously, but it sounds like it is best to use multiple sources`
`17:12.51`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: Start testing with 'Action: Ping' command.`
`17:12.55`	`brettnem`	`I'm sure just a couple people are watching time.nist.gov`
`17:13.03`	`DrDeke`	`well sure :)`
`17:13.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`brettnem: just a couple? :)`
`17:13.13`	`dandan`	`DrDeke: ping some`
`17:13.15`	`dandan`	`from the list`
`17:13.17`	`dandan`	`and decide`
`17:13.21`	`DrDeke`	`dandan: What list?`
`17:13.21`	`dandan`	`which ones are closest`
`17:13.23`	`jaike`	`your timezone properly configured?`
`17:13.33`	`DrDeke`	`never mind`
`17:13.36`	`dandan`	`well it depends`
`17:13.39`	`DrDeke`	`man i feel like a dumbass today :)`
`17:13.39`	`dandan`	`if you want stratum 1/2`
`17:13.46`	`dandan`	`http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/clock1a.html`
`17:13.48`	`Qwell`	`use the pool`
`17:13.50`	`dandan`	`^^ stratum 1`
`17:13.54`	`DrDeke`	`excellent`
`17:13.54`	`DrDeke`	`thanks`
`17:13.58`	`Qwell`	`it's there for a reason`
`17:14.00`	`iCEBrkr`	`dandan: At my last job we had one machine poll time.nist.gov and then all the rest of the machines pointed to that internal machine.`
`17:14.01`	`dandan`	`or use the pool :)`
`17:14.06`	`DrDeke`	`iCEBrkr: yeah`
`17:14.17`	`dandan`	`icebreak: that's my way of doing things`
`17:14.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`yup yup!`
`17:14.33`	`dandan`	`i only have one machine out of ~300 exposed to the 'net`
`17:14.52`	`DrDeke`	`maybe i will just put all my eggs in the NIST basket`
`17:15.08`	`iCEBrkr`	`We just figured it'd sync better/more efficiently`
`17:15.11`	`dandan`	`DrJones1: lol, i sync with mit and nasa in addition to nist`
`17:15.29`	`dandan`	`(i am close to boston geographically as well as network-ally :>)`
`17:15.36`	`dandan`	`or hop-ally :)`
`17:15.38`	`DrDeke`	`yeah`
`17:15.45`	`jaike`	`gnite peeps...its my ntp server says its 1:15am here in the phils`
`17:15.47`	`brettnem`	`dandan: I see ntpd chatting on tcpdump. :/`
`17:15.54`	`DrDeke`	`In general I have fairly stable latency to most USA networks`
`17:15.57`	`dandan`	`back and forth?`
`17:16.04`	`brettnem`	`yep`
`17:16.05`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: that still isn't working through astmanproxy, so i'm trying to get it to work jut through telnet to port 5038...`
`17:16.11`	`brettnem`	`I wonder if I'm just not being patient enough..`
`17:16.16`	`*** part/#asterisk jaike (i=aa@210.213.125.227)`
`17:16.23`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: does it work via telnet?`
`17:16.29`	`dandan`	`brettnem: well, i get my first reach immediately`
`17:16.51`	`brettnem`	`dandan: I thought I did too on the other servers.`
`17:16.55`	`DrDeke`	`What's the comment symbol in ntp.conf?`
`17:17.12`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: well, i got it to say "Authentication Accepted", but then when i typed "Action: Ping" it just said "Missing action in request"`
`17:17.14`	`dandan`	`#`
`17:17.25`	`DrDeke`	`thanks`
`17:17.30`	`JonR800`	`brettnem: are you using plain ntpd? are there any log entries?`
`17:17.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: That's odd`
`17:17.32`	`dandan`	`# IPv6`
`17:17.32`	`dandan`	`# server ntp.hexago.com`
`17:17.32`	`dandan`	`# IPv6`
`17:17.32`	`dandan`	`# server ntp6.remco.org`
`17:17.32`	`dandan`	`# IPv6`
`17:17.32`	`dandan`	`# server mars6.zit.tpnet.pl`
`17:17.34`	`dandan`	`# server tick.mit.edu`
`17:17.36`	`dandan`	`# server clock.isc.org`
`17:17.38`	`dandan`	`# server ntp.nasa.gov`
`17:17.40`	`dandan`	`</flood>`
`17:17.42`	`dandan`	`sorry`
`17:17.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`DrDeke : PM`
`17:17.59`	`brettnem`	`11:17:17.213888 IP DLLSTX37A01.ntp > time.nist.gov.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48`
`17:17.59`	`brettnem`	`11:17:17.273018 IP time.nist.gov.ntp > DLLSTX37A01.ntp: NTPv4, Server, length 48`
`17:18.04`	`dandan`	`if you wanna check quickly, go to http://www.time.gov`
`17:18.05`	`Sedorox`	`yayyyy ipv6`
`17:18.07`	`Sedorox`	`;-)`
`17:18.07`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: hang a second`
`17:18.07`	`brettnem`	`JonR800: just plain ntpd`
`17:18.17`	`dandan`	`(if you have java installed)`
`17:18.28`	`brettnem`	`JonR800: there is useless logging in my syslog`
`17:18.30`	`dandan`	`Sedorox: :) yeah, i am a big fan of ipv6`
`17:18.49`	`Sedorox`	`ooo its snowing! yay....`
`17:18.56`	`Sedorox`	`dandan: yup.. I am too`
`17:18.56`	`Sedorox`	`hehe`
`17:19.04`	`Sedorox`	`finally got my school to get a few v6 tunnels in`
`17:19.04`	`dandan`	`is * ipv6-enabled?`
`17:19.04`	`dandan`	`:)`
`17:19.08`	`Sedorox`	`no :(`
`17:19.11`	`dandan`	`Sedorox: i peer with occaid`
`17:19.12`	`dandan`	`:)`
`17:19.16`	`dandan`	`nice and fast :)`
`17:19.16`	`Sedorox`	`ahhh niceee`
`17:19.17`	`JonR800`	`brettnem: i just did a scrollback and it looks like you did an ntpdate to get a close value..`
`17:19.20`	`Sedorox`	`I get my block from them`
`17:19.21`	`Sedorox`	`hehe`
`17:19.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl:`
`17:19.34`	`dandan`	`peering through sixxs?`
`17:19.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`Message: Authentication accepted`
`17:19.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`Action: Ping`
`17:19.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`Response: Pong`
`17:19.49`	`Sedorox`	`no.. I was a user before sixxs came to US`
`17:19.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: Not sure what you're doing.`
`17:19.54`	`dandan`	`oh`
`17:20.05`	`dandan`	`i used to use xs26 and he.net`
`17:20.07`	`Sedorox`	`but yea.. hehe`
`17:20.09`	`dandan`	`and got discouraged`
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`17:20.12`	`Sedorox`	`been there... done thatr`
`17:20.12`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`17:20.13`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: you have to login before that works, right?`
`17:20.17`	`dandan`	`and went with occaid`
`17:20.19`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: Sure`
`17:20.19`	`dandan`	`they accepted`
`17:20.20`	`Sedorox`	`had my tunnel removed twice from he.net`
`17:20.25`	`dandan`	`only wanted bgp`
`17:20.26`	`dandan`	`:)`
`17:20.29`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`17:20.30`	`dandan`	`Sedorox: lol :)`
`17:20.33`	`_Thor`	`Hello Everybody`
`17:20.38`	`dandan`	`i hate the ping times`
`17:20.41`	`dandan`	`they sucked`
`17:20.44`	`dandan`	`hey _Thor`
`17:20.49`	`Sedorox`	`yea.. I only started doing bgp about... a year ago`
`17:20.55`	`paryl`	`k, i'm telnetting to port 5038, then type "Action: login"`
`17:20.58`	`Sedorox`	`through occaid... learned a lot!`
`17:21.05`	`brettnem`	`JonR800: I did an ntpdate to be sure that I wasn't insanely skewed`
`17:21.08`	`paryl`	`"Username: ****"`
`17:21.10`	`dandan`	`they went commerical though :/`
`17:21.13`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+manager+API`
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`17:21.22`	`brettnem`	`is it cold in here, or just me?`
`17:21.31`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: yeah, i'm looking at that page right now`
`17:21.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`brettnem: It's freezing in my offices.`
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`17:21.33`	`dandan`	`brettnem: about 42...`
`17:21.42`	`paryl`	`is there a setting that could be causing this?`
`17:21.49`	`brettnem`	`cold in austin today`
`17:22.03`	`brettnem`	`it's aparently hungry in here too`
`17:22.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: manage.conf maybe?`
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`17:22.20`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: manager.conf even`
`17:22.29`	`moonwick`	`cripes, is everyone in here from austin? :P`
`17:22.34`	`DrDeke`	`nah i'm from near detroit`
`17:22.41`	`callsign`	`i just installed asteriskathome and when using the weather forecast it seems to run in the console but says nothing on my extension everything else is working fine`
`17:22.43`	`brettnem`	`who else is from austin here? besides Nugget? ;)`
`17:22.59`	`brettnem`	`callsign: be sure you have festival installed`
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`17:23.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`Tampa, FL in the hizzous!`
`17:23.08`	`brettnem`	`er.. properly`
`17:23.17`	`brettnem`	`moonwick: are you in austin?`
`17:23.20`	`callsign`	`brettnem how can i check for proper festival installation?`
`17:23.20`	`moonwick`	`yup`
`17:23.25`	`dandan`	`lol, Connecticut here :)`
`17:23.27`	`moonwick`	`7th & brazos at the moment`
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`17:23.30`	`pif`	`hi, how does one define a "hint" priority in AEL?`
`17:23.32`	`dandan`	`do not complain about the weather now!`
`17:23.37`	`brettnem`	`moonwick: heh, I used to work in that building..`
`17:23.37`	`paryl`	`I have "enabled = yes" and`
`17:23.39`	`paryl`	`[astmanproxy]`
`17:23.40`	`paryl`	`secret = foo`
`17:23.41`	`paryl`	`read = system,call,log,verbose,command,agent,user`
`17:23.43`	`paryl`	`write = system,call,log,verbose,command,agent,user`
`17:23.48`	`moonwick`	`really? austin centre?`
`17:23.54`	`brettnem`	`moonwick: isnt' realtime comm in there?`
`17:24.02`	`moonwick`	`heh, not sure`
`17:24.08`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: isn't that right?`
`17:24.27`	`brettnem`	`moonwick: on no, I was in the building at 8th and brazos.... nice chinese resturant on the 3rd floor or so.. been a few years.. right near the omni and congress`
`17:24.27`	`callsign`	`how do i check if festival is installed?`
`17:24.40`	`brettnem`	`callsign: well, did you install it?`
`17:24.40`	`moonwick`	`heh`
`17:24.51`	`moonwick`	`I'm in the office building that shares the atrium with the omni`
`17:24.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: I only have read = call, write=none for simplicity`
`17:25.10`	`brettnem`	`moonwick: I'm off 360 near 2244.. right next to the broadwing building`
`17:25.15`	`moonwick`	`ah, nice`
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`17:25.18`	`moonwick`	`that's a pretty area`
`17:25.18`	`brettnem`	`the "shiny" broadwing building`
`17:25.20`	`brettnem`	`yeah it is`
`17:25.29`	`moonwick`	`I wouldn't mind having that commute, except for the other cars :)`
`17:25.42`	`brettnem`	`moonwick: oh, well I live in circle C.`
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`17:25.59`	`moonwick`	`heh`
`17:26.01`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: do you have to send the login lines everytime you send an action?`
`17:26.18`	`brettnem`	`capmetro.. blahhhhhh`
`17:26.21`	`brettnem`	`;)`
`17:26.24`	`moonwick`	`sleeping during one's commute is one of the steps to a happy life.`
`17:26.26`	`brettnem`	`haha`
`17:26.35`	`brettnem`	`where do you live that you have such a long commute?`
`17:26.37`	`brettnem`	`elgin?`
`17:26.40`	`moonwick`	`183/McNeil`
`17:26.49`	`brettnem`	`and you don't work for Dell? ;)`
`17:26.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: nope`
`17:27.26`	`moonwick`	`heh. nope.`
`17:27.30`	`moonwick`	`thank god`
`17:27.35`	`iCEBrkr`	`paryl: Hey, I'm heading to lunch`
`17:27.37`	`moonwick`	`although the other half works for Apple. :)`
`17:27.43`	`MattB2`	`anyone got 1 minute to talk T1/PRI with me pls?`
`17:27.54`	`paryl`	`iCEBrkr: k, thanks for your help anyway :)`
`17:28.12`	`callsign`	`brettnem i figured asteriskathome installs by default`
`17:28.37`	`callsign`	`found the problem`
`17:28.38`	`callsign`	`/usr/share/festival/bin/festival`
`17:28.38`	`callsign`	`/usr/share/festival/bin/festival: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory`
`17:29.10`	`_Thor`	`Guys, question: If I was to set a system capable to record every conversation up to 72 conversations at a time, do you guys think one procesor can handle it... 160 extensions`
`17:29.21`	`syzygybsd`	`MattB2: what questions do you have`
`17:29.40`	`MattB2`	`ok, I'm experienced with asterisk and analog`
`17:29.44`	`MattB2`	`newbie to PRI and T1`
`17:29.52`	`MattB2`	`we're getting our analog lines converted to digital soon`
`17:29.57`	`MattB2`	`planning to use a TE110 from digium`
`17:30.00`	`ManxPower`	`MattB2, What is your specific question?`
`17:30.08`	`brettnem`	`_Thor: there is a good apps shown on the sineapps news site for recording all voip calls.. check it out.`
`17:30.34`	`MattB2`	`our telecoms provider just called, said they can offer PRI or T1 for same price. I know the digium card supports T1 - I assume it supports PRI but need to be 100% before I say go!`
`17:30.53`	`dandan`	`MattB2: split it`
`17:30.53`	`dandan`	`:)`
`17:30.58`	`ManxPower`	`Digium TE cards support CT1 and PRI. You want PRI if you can.`
`17:30.59`	`syzygybsd`	`ya, split it`
`17:31.03`	`dandan`	`get a clec that can do it for you`
`17:31.06`	`syzygybsd`	`get a t1 and have some voice, some data`
`17:31.08`	`MattB2`	`split it? how? and why?`
`17:31.28`	`ManxPower`	`MattB2, ignore them unless you want to put Voice and Internet on the same T-1`
`17:31.39`	`syzygybsd`	`so you can send data and voice over it, how many voice lines do you need? all 23?`
`17:31.39`	`MattB2`	`we have fiber telecoms into our noffice`
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`17:31.44`	`dandan`	`ManxPower: sorry too hardcore :)`
`17:31.48`	`MattB2`	`so we already have 3mbps syncronous coming in via fibre`
`17:31.54`	`MattB2`	`this is purely voice`
`17:31.55`	`Inkubot`	`hi`
`17:31.57`	`MattB2`	`and fax ;)`
`17:31.59`	`syzygybsd`	`ya, ignore the data part then`
`17:32.01`	`ManxPower`	`MattB2, then you want a PRI.`
`17:32.02`	`MattB2`	`we have no need at all for ISDN`
`17:32.04`	`MattB2`	`ok`
`17:32.06`	`MattB2`	`PRI it is`
`17:32.14`	`Inkubot`	`i'm trying to configure a TE110P but i got a yellow alarm`
`17:32.34`	`MattB2`	`thanks all - I uusually research & find all this out myself, but in a rush right now. appreicate your patience ;)`
`17:33.17`	`Inkubot`	`why could be that ?`
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`17:35.26`	`MattB2`	`better go sign my life away`
`17:35.28`	`MattB2`	`thanks again, cya`
`17:35.50`	`_Thor`	`Brettnem: the recording part I think I can handle, but it is the CPU power needed to handle recording of up to 72 conversations at the same time, plus handling 160 extensions, that worries me`
`17:36.22`	`_Thor`	`Do you guys think one CPU could handle that?`
`17:36.25`	`moonwick`	`I'd be surprised if recording really takes up much CPU`
`17:36.40`	`syzygybsd`	`Inkubot: just a guess, but your /etc/zapata.conf file doesn't have the right settings.`
`17:36.41`	`moonwick`	`it shouldn't be anything more than a matter of dumping a stream of data to disk`
`17:36.47`	`moonwick`	`but you might have to worry about the speed of the disk`
`17:36.49`	`_Thor`	`I think recording does take up a lot of CPU`
`17:37.23`	`brettnem`	`_Thor: check out the program.. it does just this`
`17:37.27`	`syzygybsd`	`_Thor: it depends on what format you record to, if you are encoding it as well then it takes a lot more`
`17:37.48`	`_Thor`	`moonwick: do you think I should use an SCSI drive?`
`17:38.25`	`Inkubot`	`zaptel.conf or zapata.conf ?`
`17:38.26`	`moonwick`	`using a scsi drive would probably lighten the load off the CPU`
`17:38.26`	`_Thor`	`syzygybsd: you are right`
`17:38.35`	`dandan`	`use sata`
`17:38.39`	`dandan`	`with a good controller`
`17:38.52`	`brettnem`	`_Thor: http://www.oreka.org/`
`17:38.57`	`brettnem`	`very neat looking prog`
`17:39.13`	`Inkubot`	`the thing if i use span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4 dmesg show me the "yellow alarm"`
`17:39.13`	`brettnem`	`moonwick: what are you doing in austin?`
`17:39.13`	`dandan`	`brettnem: which one?`
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`17:39.22`	`brettnem`	`dandan: http://www.oreka.org/`
`17:39.25`	`_Thor`	`brettnem: thank you`
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`17:39.29`	`moonwick`	`brettnem: frittering away the hours until I can go home, currently. :)`
`17:39.30`	`dandan`	`oh`
`17:39.32`	`Inkubot`	`but if i use span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs dmesg don't show nothing`
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`17:39.35`	`dandan`	`will look into it`
`17:39.35`	`dandan`	`:)`
`17:39.37`	`brettnem`	`"The open source, cross-platform audio stream recording and retrieval system"`
`17:39.39`	`syzygybsd`	`_Thor: if you are going to have 72 calls going on at the same time through this server, and you are wondering if you shoudl go SCSI? How much are you plannign on spending on this server?`
`17:39.46`	`brettnem`	`moonwick: oh.. I see....`
`17:39.46`	`Inkubot`	`but i both cases zttool shows an alarm`
`17:39.47`	`brettnem`	`;)`
`17:40.03`	`brettnem`	`syzygybsd: it's his old win95 machine. :)`
`17:40.09`	`dandan`	`LOL`
`17:40.10`	`Inkubot`	`i also have a tdm400`
`17:40.16`	`syzygybsd`	`lol`
`17:40.42`	`HDG-laws`	`Anyone willing to help me with a cid issue? 79xx w/ sip 7.5 to * fed w/ 6 pots (tdm400p) - callerid shows as "unknown". I've found this to be the cause of callerid = unknown in sip.conf...if i change it, the name changes on calls inbound...how do i get real callerid to show (i have callerid enabled by phone co and verified it works on regular phone)`
`17:40.44`	`HDG-laws`	`Thanks ;)`
`17:41.09`	`_Thor`	`syzygybsd: maybe up to 5K for the server. I am seriously considering setting up a distributed system with 2 CPUs`
`17:41.30`	`syzygybsd`	`for 5K we just got a server with quad`
`17:41.32`	`brettnem`	`HDG-laws: I think there is a callerid=yes or soething like that somewhere. if they are pots lines, make sure you answer after the 2nd ring or so to be sure you recieve the CID`
`17:41.57`	`_Thor`	`In fact, my question is: would you guys do this with 1 CPU or 2 CPSs?`
`17:42.04`	`Inkubot`	`ztcfg -vv show me this http://pastebin.com/446300`
`17:42.06`	`_Thor`	`2 CPUs?`
`17:42.38`	`brettnem`	`usercallerid=yes I think it is`
`17:42.40`	`HDG-laws`	`brettnem: it can ring all day and no CID shows (dialparties.agi in the debug shows callerid not found or something like that)`
`17:43.02`	`HDG-laws`	`try usercallerid=yes in sip.conf`
`17:43.05`	`HDG-laws`	`and it will display right on all?`
`17:43.29`	`brettnem`	`Inkubot: funky`
`17:43.33`	`syzygybsd`	`_Thor: more then 2`
`17:44.02`	`HDG-laws`	`still says "unknown"`
`17:44.03`	`HDG-laws`	`:(`
`17:44.26`	`syzygybsd`	`think about it this way. one CPU can only do one thing at a time`
`17:44.52`	`LostFrog`	`Actually, a modern CPU can do about 7-9 things at a time.`
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`17:45.06`	`dandan`	`LostFrog: really?`
`17:45.17`	`LostFrog`	`Yes.. 7-9 pipelines.`
`17:45.21`	`_Thor`	`Yeah, I will set it up from the start with 2 CPUs`
`17:45.24`	`syzygybsd`	`nope, still only 1, the OS can switch between tasks quickly though`
`17:45.38`	`HDG-laws`	`brettnem: any other ideas? with usercallerid=yes in sip.conf i still get UNKNOWN`
`17:45.40`	`hypnox`	`i'm having trouble getting my iaxy to pick up dhcp.. dhcp works fine for grandstream phones. Any ideas?`
`17:45.53`	`LostFrog`	`It can only run one thread at a time.`
`17:46.01`	`dandan`	`syzygybsd: unless you have an -SMP machine that is :)`
`17:46.03`	`syzygybsd`	`sorry, that is what I meant by one thing`
`17:46.11`	`dandan`	`or some other Cell based PS3 :)`
`17:48.05`	`_Thor`	`I agree with syzygybsd... eventually the CPU handles only one thing at a time... otherwise it would ba a parallel procesor.. the dual processor can probably do that`
`17:48.35`	`syzygybsd`	`I have an asterisk server I am installing right now with 4 cpus with hyperthreading so that it shows up as 8...`
`17:48.44`	`dandan`	`only if the software is multithreading enabled`
`17:49.00`	`syzygybsd`	`isn't asterisk multithreaded enabled?`
`17:49.04`	`dandan`	`is * multi-cpu eady?`
`17:49.06`	`syzygybsd`	`I would hope so`
`17:50.12`	`syzygybsd`	`I know make isn't though.. taking forever to compile this kernel`
`17:50.28`	`LostFrog`	`There is a parallel make.. but it isn't perfect.`
`17:50.32`	`syzygybsd`	`8 CPUs.. and it is using 1`
`17:50.45`	`LostFrog`	`Well.. I should say that not all projects work well with pmake.`
`17:50.55`	`syzygybsd`	`ya, for something like a kernel I need perfect`
`17:51.08`	`LostFrog`	`Well.. it either works or doesn't..`
`17:51.08`	`dandan`	`syzygybsd: do make -j9`
`17:51.15`	`dandan`	`(no. of processors+1)`
`17:51.25`	`syzygybsd`	`really... dang`
`17:51.32`	`DrDeke`	`actually for 4 hyperthreaded processors I would be more inclined to use -j6`
`17:52.04`	`DrDeke`	`I think that with 9 simultaneous threads the overhead would overpower the hyperthreading gain.`
`17:52.05`	`dandan`	`well`
`17:52.05`	`syzygybsd`	`ya, I would be happy with -j4`
`17:52.22`	`dandan`	`i usually do time make -j[2345]`
`17:52.30`	`dandan`	`and check the output`
`17:52.35`	`DrDeke`	`:)`
`17:52.36`	`dandan`	`syzygybsd: do at least -j5 :)`
`17:53.11`	`syzygybsd`	`wish i knew where i was in the make process`
`17:53.34`	`dandan`	`somewhere...`
`17:53.45`	`syzygybsd`	`ya, scsi modules`
`17:53.46`	`dandan`	`...between a start and an end`
`17:54.17`	`dandan`	`tmpfs GREATLY speeds up compiling time`
`17:54.25`	`DrDeke`	`tmpfs?`
`17:54.30`	`dandan`	`like 50 to 75 percent`
`17:54.40`	`dandan`	`yeah, tmp that you keep in your ram :)`
`17:54.42`	`DrDeke`	`ahh`
`17:54.45`	`dandan`	`and mount to /tmp`
`17:54.47`	`dandan`	`like this:`
`17:55.02`	`dandan`	`# cat /etc/fstab \|grep tmpfs`
`17:55.02`	`dandan`	`tmpfs /tmp tmpfs size=512m,mode=1777,nosuid,nodev 0 0`
`17:55.14`	`dandan`	`apache loves it`
`17:55.23`	`dandan`	`make too :)`
`17:55.41`	`dandan`	`and it only uses RAM when it needs to (no pre-allocation)`
`17:56.17`	`syzygybsd`	`well it is finally done`
`17:57.02`	`dandan`	`if i only had a 4 CPU system...`
`17:57.04`	`dandan`	`mmmmmm...`
`17:57.05`	`dandan`	`:)`
`17:57.42`	`syzygybsd`	`cost half as much as the server we shipped out yesterday`
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`17:58.20`	`dandan`	`yeah, we are $30mln+ company and I can't get a descent server!`
`17:58.25`	`dandan`	`tell me about budgeting!`
`17:59.30`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`17:59.43`	`dandan`	`it is not that funny :)`
`17:59.49`	`dandan`	`for an IT Manager :)`
`18:00.00`	`Sedorox`	`for a knowledgable IT manager`
`18:00.02`	`Sedorox`	`:p`
`18:00.16`	`dandan`	`well :)`
`18:00.19`	`Sedorox`	`I know a few... who don't really know what the different between a P4 and Celeron is...`
`18:00.40`	`dandan`	`power usage! heat generation! :>`
`18:00.46`	`dandan`	`to name 2 most important!`
`18:00.51`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`18:00.54`	`Sedorox`	`well yea..`
`18:01.24`	`Sedorox`	`just saying.. one I worked with thought we could switch a fully Novell/Groupwise system of 3000+ users over to complete Microsoft/Exchange system in 3 months with 3 people...`
`18:01.26`	`syzygybsd`	`wow, make flys with -j6`
`18:02.14`	`dandan`	`syzygybsd: told you do time make -j6 :)`
`18:02.25`	`dandan`	`and it will tell you the time it took to compile`
`18:02.32`	`syzygybsd`	`ya, but then I would have to time the normal make`
`18:02.35`	`dandan`	`Sedorox: well, good old times of GW...`
`18:02.44`	`Sedorox`	`I love Groupwise...`
`18:02.47`	`dandan`	`syzygybsd: in your spare time :>`
`18:02.47`	`Sedorox`	`and novell products`
`18:02.47`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`18:02.53`	`dandan`	`Sedorox: i used to :)`
`18:02.55`	`syzygybsd`	`and make -j6 errored out... needed files before they were compiled`
`18:02.59`	`dandan`	`with n3/4/5`
`18:03.28`	`dandan`	`after they went with 6 and zen i didn't like them`
`18:03.30`	`dandan`	`too much`
`18:03.56`	`Sedorox`	`6 is ok... I don't like how they moved and trying to make everyone use imanager`
`18:03.57`	`dandan`	`never finished my CNA either... didn't have time :)`
`18:04.00`	`Sedorox`	`zenworks I like...`
`18:04.08`	`Sedorox`	`OES is interesting`
`18:05.03`	`dandan`	`Sedorox: i used to work with this guy: http://www.campusi.com/author_Karanjit_S._Siyan.htm`
`18:05.08`	`Sedorox`	`still needs a lot of tweaking`
`18:05.25`	`Sedorox`	`damn my internet is sucking today`
`18:05.37`	`Sedorox`	`dandan: interesting`
`18:05.57`	`dandan`	`Sedorox: yeah`
`18:06.02`	`dandan`	`on the outside`
`18:06.05`	`dandan`	`he knew a lot`
`18:06.07`	`Sedorox`	`hehe`
`18:06.12`	`dandan`	`but sucked at transferring the knowledge`
`18:06.17`	`Sedorox`	`ahhh ok`
`18:06.27`	`Sedorox`	`one of those teachers who shouldn't be teaching`
`18:06.27`	`Sedorox`	`:p`
`18:06.30`	`dandan`	`i can't imagine how much the ublisher had to work with him`
`18:06.36`	`dandan`	`*publisher`
`18:06.43`	`dandan`	`to get those books readable`
`18:06.44`	`dandan`	`:)`
`18:07.04`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`18:07.17`	`dandan`	`Sedorox: he should be buried in his basement coding :)`
`18:07.26`	`dandan`	`no social skills, no interpersonal communications`
`18:07.28`	`dandan`	`nothing`
`18:08.08`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`18:08.18`	`Sedorox`	`I have to take speech next semester.. I dun wanna... :-/`
`18:09.20`	`dandan`	`LoL :) MC 207 (managerial communication) - same here, but winter session`
`18:10.03`	`Sedorox`	`ah`
`18:10.21`	`Sedorox`	`I'm just about done intro to management...`
`18:10.22`	`brettnem`	`my irc bouncer sucks.. arg`
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`18:11.39`	`dandan`	`Sedorox: r u on linedin?`
`18:11.53`	`Sedorox`	`linedin?`
`18:12.01`	`dandan`	`.com`
`18:12.08`	`dandan`	`social network type of thing`
`18:12.16`	`brettnem`	`oh I love social networks.`
`18:12.17`	`brettnem`	`:)`
`18:12.17`	`Sedorox`	`no`
`18:12.29`	`dandan`	`brettnem: most of them are useless`
`18:12.31`	`ManxPower`	`social. ew.`
`18:12.42`	`dandan`	`but linkedin got me in`
`18:12.50`	`dandan`	`for one reason or another`
`18:12.53`	`brettnem`	`dandan. yeah, I'm "linkedin" too`
`18:12.56`	`Sedorox`	`I'm on facebook but rarely use it...`
`18:13.09`	`brettnem`	`actually, I really like del.icio.us`
`18:13.17`	`gniretar`	`anyone know the pinout for Digium T1 gear?`
`18:13.32`	`Sedorox`	`gniretar: I believe its normal T1 pinout`
`18:13.33`	`brettnem`	`1,2,4,5`
`18:13.39`	`brettnem`	`sure it is.. it has to be.. come on`
`18:14.09`	`gniretar`	`hmmm, OK i guess then my real question is this: what kind of cable do i need to make to connect my T1 card to my channel bank?`
`18:14.16`	`dandan`	`anyone using that: http://www.voicetronix.com.au/hda.htm`
`18:14.18`	`dandan`	`?`
`18:14.33`	`brettnem`	`gniretar: reverse 1&4,4&1, 2&5,5&2`
`18:14.33`	`Sedorox`	`gniretar: crossover I would assume`
`18:14.36`	`ManxPower`	`gniretar, you need a "T-1 crossover cable" See the Wiki.`
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`18:15.23`	`brettnem`	`del.icio.us is supper addictive`
`18:15.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dandan : I know someone getting rid of a VoiceTronix board if you're interested`
`18:15.35`	`Sedorox`	`I need a digium T1 card... :-/`
`18:15.39`	`dandan`	`[TK]D-Fender only 12 ports`
`18:15.43`	`dandan`	`what's the price`
`18:15.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Will ask.`
`18:15.45`	`brettnem`	`no, you need a sangoma card`
`18:15.48`	`dandan`	`and why is he getting rid of it?`
`18:15.49`	`dandan`	`:)`
`18:15.53`	`dandan`	`thx [TK]D-Fender`
`18:16.00`	`Sedorox`	`brettnem: either-or.. but I have a integrator here I still wanna mess with`
`18:16.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`He got it for 1 need, and it changed.`
`18:16.09`	`dandan`	`i need to interface 12-14 analog lines`
`18:16.14`	`dandan`	`with my *`
`18:16.32`	`dandan`	`can't go with channel bank (cost reasons)`
`18:16.40`	`brettnem`	`pstn sux`
`18:16.43`	`brettnem`	`:)`
`18:16.44`	`ManxPower`	`dandan, Then you can't go with other solutions either.`
`18:16.54`	`dandan`	`locked in contract till 2008...`
`18:17.06`	`ManxPower`	`A populated TDM400P is about $300 and only has 4 ports`
`18:17.08`	`dandan`	`ManxPower: yeah, that's what I figured...`
`18:17.47`	`ManxPower`	`TE10xP = $500, Adtran TA750 (eBay) = $300.`
`18:17.55`	`ManxPower`	`Then the cost of a cable = $50 or so.`
`18:18.15`	`Sedorox`	`T1 cable.. or AMP cable?`
`18:18.15`	`brettnem`	`I need a good way of dropping like 400 pots`
`18:18.24`	`Sedorox`	`channel banks`
`18:18.25`	`hypnox`	`well, iaxy's seem to suck, given my experience`
`18:18.27`	`ManxPower`	`AMP. You can make your own T-1 cable.`
`18:18.28`	`brettnem`	`Sedorox: probably both`
`18:18.34`	`Sedorox`	`ManxPower: figured as much`
`18:18.42`	`dandan`	`Sedorox: isn't it like if you go with channel bank you loose CID?`
`18:18.53`	`Sedorox`	`depends on the bank I believe`
`18:18.59`	`Sedorox`	`some will do it.. cheaper ones won't`
`18:19.06`	`Sedorox`	`I'm not that farmiliar with banks tho.. so..`
`18:19.11`	`denon`	`adtran 750 will certainly handle CID properly`
`18:19.14`	`brad_mssw`	`anyone know how to unlock an RT31P2 from vonage ?`
`18:19.19`	`denon`	`some old zhones had issues, but any good CB should do fine`
`18:19.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dandan : I've got my supplier on line and hope to have a figure for you in a min or few`
`18:20.03`	`dandan`	`[TK]D-Fender: appreciated :)`
`18:20.24`	`dandan`	`hm`
`18:20.39`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`18:20.57`	`dandan`	`VxJasonxV: i would need a te10xP (digium), ta750 (adtran) and a cable?`
`18:20.59`	`dandan`	`800?`
`18:21.17`	`dandan`	`I hate autocomplete!`
`18:21.21`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`18:21.27`	`dandan`	`:)`
`18:21.35`	`dandan`	`800 could fly...`
`18:23.27`	`dandan`	`brad_mssw: if you find out, let me know`
`18:23.30`	`dandan`	`i need to do that too`
`18:23.56`	`brad_mssw`	`dandan: heh, somehow I think it's not possible ;)`
`18:24.23`	`brad_mssw`	`dandan: vonage told me to keep the hardware ... think it's being donated to the dump (ported numbers from vonage to teliax)`
`18:24.42`	`dandan`	`:)`
`18:25.30`	`Sedorox`	`brad_mssw: the one from vonage.. is it a linksys?`
`18:25.48`	`dandan`	`yeah`
`18:25.51`	`dandan`	`i have the same thing`
`18:25.59`	`dandan`	`would like to go with BV`
`18:26.03`	`Sedorox`	`there is a way to unlock the linksys's I believe`
`18:26.12`	`dandan`	`btw. is vonage no. portable?`
`18:26.14`	`VxJasonxV`	`uhhhhh`
`18:26.19`	`brad_mssw`	`Sedorox: yeah, it's a linksys`
`18:26.20`	`VxJasonxV`	`ndeed. dandan, who were you trying to message?`
`18:26.23`	`Sedorox`	`dandan: to go to it...`
`18:26.23`	`VxJasonxV`	`indeed*`
`18:26.36`	`dandan`	`VxJasonxV: sorry i typed in: so: and it got you :>`
`18:26.37`	`Sedorox`	`VxJasonxV: think it was a tab-completion error`
`18:26.38`	`Sedorox`	`:p`
`18:26.41`	`dandan`	`jaSOn`
`18:26.43`	`VxJasonxV`	`O_o. weird`
`18:26.58`	`dandan`	`well Bitch is always weird :)`
`18:27.02`	`ManxPower`	`Unless your time is worth pretty much nothing, it's cheaper just to buy a SIPura.`
`18:27.03`	`VxJasonxV`	`What client? I've never known apps to use anything but starting from the the first character.`
`18:27.04`	`brad_mssw`	`dandan: yeah, ported the vonage-assigned numbers (800 and normal), to teliax, no issues`
`18:27.08`	`VxJasonxV`	`Aha, BX is indeed weird.`
`18:27.11`	`VxJasonxV`	`irssi++`
`18:27.14`	`dandan`	`no no no!`
`18:27.15`	`dandan`	`:)`
`18:27.24`	`dandan`	`brad_mssw: cool, good to know`
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`18:27.44`	`Sedorox`	`ah.. brad_mssw its the pap2 you can unlock :/`
`18:27.45`	`dandan`	`ManxPower: that just for kick`
`18:28.01`	`brad_mssw`	`Sedorox: eh, what's the method for that one ? is it a firmware upload ?`
`18:28.07`	`Sedorox`	`I think so...`
`18:28.10`	`brad_mssw`	`Sedorox: or some other trick?`
`18:28.11`	`dandan`	`http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14491396?hilite=rt31p2`
`18:28.12`	`Sedorox`	`hold on.. I'l see if I can find the page`
`18:28.18`	`dandan`	`linksys with asterisk :)`
`18:28.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dandan : Whereabouts are you located?`
`18:29.15`	`Sedorox`	`http://www.telephreak.org/PAP2/`
`18:29.20`	`Sedorox`	`unlocking of pap2`
`18:29.29`	`dandan`	`[TK]D-Fender: east coast`
`18:29.29`	`trixter`	`afaik that page states it no longer works`
`18:29.33`	`trixter`	`if not that one then another`
`18:29.33`	`dandan`	`CT to be exact`
`18:30.01`	`trixter`	`specifically beave was mentioned in the page that said it used to work but the newer ones dont`
`18:30.02`	`brad_mssw`	`Sedorox: yeah, ok, firmware ...`
`18:30.04`	`Sedorox`	`well`
`18:30.10`	`Sedorox`	`its a good thing I saved everything when I did`
`18:30.11`	`Sedorox`	`;-)`
`18:30.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Ok, we're in Montreal, QC (Me and the guy I'm helping). Hows 800$ sound?`
`18:30.21`	`trixter`	`however the AT&T callvantage dlink dvg...2100? whaetver.. bestbuy has for $30 right now does work`
`18:30.28`	`brad_mssw`	`Sedorox: looks like it can be loaded alternatively though by changing some DNS entries, and setting up a TFTP server ...`
`18:30.36`	`Sedorox`	`yea...`
`18:30.36`	`trixter`	`dvg1120`
`18:30.43`	`trixter`	`http://www.anatifero.us/weblog/2005/11/09/linksys-dvg-1120s/`
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`18:31.26`	`brettnem`	`eeek aggies`
`18:31.32`	`dandan`	`trixter: are those unlockables?`
`18:31.44`	`Sedorox`	`'cept I would rather spend my sparse money on a date right now :p`
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`18:31.54`	`ManxPower`	`The SIPura boxes are easily unlocked.`
`18:32.15`	`dandan`	`Sedorox: i am married, no need for dates :>`
`18:32.27`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`18:32.43`	`dandan`	`;)`
`18:33.47`	`brad_mssw`	`eh, oh well ... lunch time`
`18:34.34`	`dandan`	`:)`
`18:35.27`	`dandan`	`oh it is in my BB`
`18:35.35`	`trixter`	`dandan: read that page, according to it the svg1120s is unlockable from callvantage.. at the cost of $30 from bestbuy`
`18:35.36`	`dandan`	`i think i will try, for $30, u can't go wrong`
`18:35.36`	`dandan`	`:)`
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`18:35.49`	`trixter`	`which isnt bad, 2 ports plus pass through to a real phone line if voip breaks`
`18:36.00`	`dandan`	`trixter: yeah, I ordered it already :)`
`18:36.33`	`trixter`	`I am going into town today and I might get one.. I gotta finish unlocking the motorola vt1000 from vonage`
`18:36.43`	`dandan`	`trix`
`18:36.48`	`dandan`	`oh, the old one?`
`18:36.48`	`dandan`	`:)`
`18:37.03`	`trixter`	`its almost not worth it because you can get a replacement so cheap but I promised someone I would look at it`
`18:37.36`	`trixter`	`I aparently can create the config files properly, have the tech manual and all but there is some stuff that is just being a pain`
`18:38.20`	`Sedorox`	`hmm`
`18:38.38`	`Sedorox`	`I've been debating about picking up one of those cisco cable modems with the pots jacks in it.. and trying to use it`
`18:41.43`	`dandan`	`there are no better cable modems than Motorola SurfBoards 5XXX`
`18:42.11`	`Sedorox`	`I dun think so... I have a SB5100`
`18:42.13`	`Sedorox`	`love it`
`18:42.55`	`dandan`	`yeah any 5XXX will do`
`18:42.59`	`dandan`	`that's what I SAID!`
`18:43.00`	`dandan`	`:)`
`18:43.04`	`Sedorox`	`:p`
`18:43.09`	`dandan`	`r u having lunch or what?`
`18:43.10`	`dandan`	`eh?`
`18:43.10`	`dandan`	`:>`
`18:43.20`	`Sedorox`	`eh?? no...`
`18:43.37`	`dandan`	`cause u r not paying attention to what I am typing :)`
`18:43.47`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`18:44.06`	`Sedorox`	`I just stated I have one.. and I like it`
`18:44.06`	`Sedorox`	`:p`
`18:45.01`	`dandan`	`eh...`
`18:45.05`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
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`18:45.15`	`dandan`	`anyway`
`18:45.19`	`dandan`	`i have 2 books about *`
`18:45.25`	`dandan`	`any others that I might get?`
`18:45.35`	`dandan`	`i have the oreilly's switching to VoIP`
`18:45.39`	`dandan`	`and the crappy yellow one`
`18:45.59`	`iCEBrkr`	`Mmm. Good lunch`
`18:46.30`	`Sedorox`	`hehe.. I love nextel`
`18:46.31`	`Sedorox`	`ANYWAY...`
`18:46.42`	`Sedorox`	`dandan: how about that free one from oreily?`
`18:47.22`	`dandan`	`free one?`
`18:47.29`	`dandan`	`is there such thing?`
`18:47.37`	`moonwick`	`beep-beep!`
`18:49.10`	`dandan`	`!peeb-peeb`
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`18:50.34`	`syzygybsd`	`~book`
`18:50.35`	`jbot`	`hmm... book is on the table`
`18:50.51`	`dandan`	`~book`
`18:50.53`	`jbot`	`[book] on the table`
`18:51.02`	`Sedorox`	`dandan: http://geekgazette.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=2`
`18:51.05`	`dandan`	`smarta$$`
`18:51.44`	`dandan`	`o sh*t`
`18:51.45`	`dandan`	`thanks :)))`
`18:51.48`	`Sedorox`	`yup`
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`18:52.31`	`dandan`	`gotta test the high speed printer...`
`18:52.32`	`dandan`	`:)))`
`18:52.38`	`dandan`	`brb [printin']`
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`18:56.07`	`Seba_soy`	`[1145440694] START: 2005-12-02 15:51:26, ANWER: 2005-12-02 15:51:38, END: 2005-12-02 15:51:38`
`18:56.08`	`Seba_soy`	`[1145440694] START: 2005-12-02 15:51:26, ANWER: 2005-12-02 15:51:38, END: 2005-12-02 15:51:38`
`18:56.14`	`Seba_soy`	`Maximum retries exceeded on transmission 13AF1B9E-629B11DA-B1A7C00F-46F3B170@200.47.131.137 for seqno 101 (Critical Response)`
`18:56.26`	`Seba_soy`	`what is that on SIP channels?`
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`18:57.05`	`Seba_soy`	`sorry my flood, it was unintentional`
`18:57.25`	`ful\|work`	`anyone got ooh323 faststart=no working ?`
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`19:04.14`	`mazimp`	`hi folks, how do I initiate a attended transfer from a zap-phone (# exten only initiates an unattended transfer) - using Asterisk 1.0.9 ?`
`19:04.53`	`ManxPower`	`mazimp, stop using # transfers and use FLASH transfers.`
`19:05.02`	`ManxPower`	`# transfers is an ugly hack that is almost never needed.`
`19:05.59`	`mazimp`	`in fact the zap-channel is connected to a hardware pbx that blocks flashd from the connected phones`
`19:06.23`	`ManxPower`	`mazimp, then you cannot use attended transfers unless you upgrade your Asterisk`
`19:06.57`	`mazimp`	`1.2 can do this?`
`19:06.57`	`ManxPower`	`mazimp, yes.`
`19:06.57`	`mazimp`	`thx`
`19:06.58`	`ManxPower`	`Remember you will not be able to use many external IVRs.`
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`19:07.40`	`ManxPower`	`"Please enter your account code, followed by the pound sign." "12345#" "transfer"`
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`19:09.35`	`asteriskmonkey`	`does anyone know if the Dialogic drivers are in the asterisk cvs`
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`19:10.17`	`docelmo`	`sup sup`
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`19:10.37`	`saftsack`	`hi`
`19:10.46`	`saftsack`	`what is the termination of the s/t interface?`
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`19:17.08`	`FuriousGeorge`	`hey all`
`19:17.45`	`asteriskmonkey`	`hey`
`19:17.54`	`asteriskmonkey`	`is there any digium guys about`
`19:17.59`	`mog_work`	`nope`
`19:18.11`	`wunderkin`	`ST is fiber`
`19:18.17`	`mishehu`	`they're all out for the day. please leave a message after the beep.`
`19:18.18`	`FuriousGeorge`	`lazy bastards :)`
`19:18.24`	`mishehu`	`beep`
`19:18.30`	`mog_work`	`heh`
`19:18.33`	`mog_work`	`me lazy`
`19:18.34`	`wunderkin`	`a type of connector actually`
`19:18.35`	`mog_work`	`i never`
`19:18.55`	`FuriousGeorge`	`"Hello, please help. my tdm is on fire. I tried shutting down but it stil burns. Please call me back"`
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`19:19.29`	`mog_work`	`what do you need asteriskmonkey`
`19:24.04`	`FuriousGeorge`	`hey mog_work is it true if you set txgain higher than 15% it can break HW?`
`19:25.00`	`mog_work`	`i dont think you can break hw, but dont go beyond -5 and 5`
`19:25.15`	`mog_work`	`its not good beyond those ranges`
`19:25.23`	`FuriousGeorge`	`sound quality wise?`
`19:25.41`	`mog_work`	`yeah`
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`19:25.59`	`junbug`	`how do most people do paging these days with asterisk`
`19:25.59`	`mog_work`	`also there is probably something else wrong if you are going outside of that range`
`19:26.01`	`FuriousGeorge`	`what about rxgain? same thing, right? thats what i meant to ask about`
`19:26.09`	`mog_work`	`yeah`
`19:26.24`	`FuriousGeorge`	`whats going wrong is that i dont have enough voltage to power my analog doorphone extension`
`19:26.36`	`mog_work`	`i mean if we see the gains set high or low on customer boxes we usually set em at 0 and fix other things and then the are happy`
`19:26.37`	`FuriousGeorge`	`so i gotta turn the volume down on it a bit`
`19:26.49`	`mog_work`	`how many volts does it need`
`19:27.17`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i dunno, the spec says it requires 24V i think, and i got boostringer so i should be providing 79, right? lemme look it up real quick`
`19:28.35`	`FuriousGeorge`	`says "20 V DC / 20 mA minimum"`
`19:28.38`	`Supaplex`	`how can I control what caller id strings asterisk uses for a call center handling multiple projects, all requiring their own caller id string? how do agents switch between projects?`
`19:29.42`	`FuriousGeorge`	`mog_work: but im sure its a voltage issue because what happens is, you hit the "call" button and send it to s with immediate=yes. if i have the volume two high the line is disconnected after a ring`
`19:29.52`	`FuriousGeorge`	`and you can see the LED light start to dim as it rings`
`19:30.27`	`shanky`	`hi`
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`19:36.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Supaplex : Do you mean rigging your callerID for outbound calls depending on whom you are intending to call?`
`19:41.54`	`Supaplex`	`[TK]D-Fender: sort of, yes. our agents handle multiple projects, each of which should be using their own caller id (so customers on project b don't get confused about project a calling, of which they're not a member of)`
`19:42.18`	`Supaplex`	`am I making any sense? :)`
`19:49.42`	`wunderkin`	`quite a project aint it`
`19:49.52`	`Supaplex`	`nice pun :p`
`19:50.20`	`wunderkin`	`supaplex, the most difficult part is to track what project they are calling for (store a variable for that) and then when you are calling out check the project variable and set the caller id on that`
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`19:50.37`	`ManxPower`	`Supaplex, All you want to do is to SetCallerID before putting the caller into the queue.`
`19:51.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Supaplex : what ManxPower said :)`
`19:51.21`	`wunderkin`	`maybe i need to read it again im not paying a lot of attention`
`19:51.43`	`wunderkin`	`maybe we are all assuming things :P`
`19:51.45`	`Supaplex`	`for outbound calls, yea?`
`19:52.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`you could make a mini IRV on your outbound context "9x." and prompt for caller id to use or integrate it in the code like "9[xx]y."`
`19:52.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Supaplex : yes`
`19:52.17`	`Supaplex`	`humm`
`19:52.27`	`wunderkin`	`sure but if they are static based on the project then whats the point`
`19:53.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Or if individuals only work on 1 project at a time code it in direct`
`19:53.09`	`Supaplex`	`it's possible agents would need to change projects on every outbound call anyway`
`19:53.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`1,000,000 ways to skin a cat in *`
`19:53.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Supaplex : maybe best to use the 9xxy. method`
`19:53.38`	`wunderkin`	`it all depends on what you need, yes`
`19:54.15`	`Supaplex`	`initaly there's only one project. we're introducing a few new low volume projects`
`19:54.43`	`LostFrog`	`[TK]D-Fender: They just implemented a new method.`
`19:54.49`	`LostFrog`	`There are not 1,000,001 ways.`
`19:54.52`	`LostFrog`	`now`
`19:55.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`LostFrog : Stop screwing with sample figures!`
`19:55.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kinky`
`19:56.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`;0`
`19:56.10`	`Katty`	`it's my speciality, [TK]D-Fender`
`19:56.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"I'm I can't come to the phone..... I'm all tied up.....(grunt)"`
`19:57.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`heh`
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`19:59.25`	`Supaplex`	`this looks like what I'm looking for. AGI Script to interact with ACCESS Databse and Set CID info on the fly`
`19:59.57`	`Corydon-w`	`I was going to say...`
`20:00.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Respect++!`
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`20:01.03`	`Supaplex`	`http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-September/126474.html`
`20:01.07`	`Supaplex`	`yay gmail`
`20:01.35`	`[hC]`	`Anyone reccomend a decent billing solution for asterisk? Web based, etc.`
`20:02.13`	`Corydon-w`	`"billing solution" is a dirty word`
`20:02.21`	`bweschke`	`lol`
`20:02.25`	`Supaplex`	`filthy filthy!`
`20:02.27`	`bweschke`	`it sure is`
`20:02.28`	`trixter`	`yeah the phone calls want to be free`
`20:02.29`	`trixter`	`:P`
`20:02.32`	`Supaplex`	`ha!`
`20:02.34`	`[hC]`	`haha.`
`20:02.45`	`[hC]`	`You guys can give free calls away to businesses all you like, im gonna bill them :`
`20:02.47`	`[hC]`	`:)`
`20:02.59`	`Corydon-w`	`The problem is that there are N definitions for billing solution`
`20:02.59`	`Supaplex`	`how will you compete? ;)`
`20:03.10`	`trixter`	`http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2005/12/message_to_fcc.html hear hear!`
`20:03.27`	`Corydon-w`	`There are no freely available billing solutions which print and mail your bills for you`
`20:03.53`	`trixter`	`I want a freely available system that will pay my bills for me (for free of course)`
`20:03.59`	`trixter`	`that would be better`
`20:04.33`	`Corydon-w`	`So the question is, at what point is what Asterisk provides enough, and at what point do you actually have to go do your own work to get a bill out the door?`
`20:04.36`	`ManxPower`	`I resolved the billing issue pretty easily.`
`20:04.38`	`Supaplex`	`there is freeside, but that doesn't quite fit the 'decent' category. and neither does astbill imo (hacktackular setup)`
`20:04.39`	`[hC]`	`Okay, more specifically. I am looking for something that can differentiate customers based on accountcode, understand rate plans that i define, and know how to charge accordingly based on what number you called and which provider it went out on, with the ability to print a bill with totals on it each month for each customer`
`20:04.47`	`Corydon-w`	`No real answer to that; it's different for each situation`
`20:05.02`	`[hC]`	`astbill looks rather hacktacular`
`20:05.07`	`[hC]`	`trabas is looking the best so far, but..`
`20:05.09`	`[hC]`	`Im not sure`
`20:05.17`	`[hC]`	`Figured i would ask you guys if you had used anything, first.`
`20:05.23`	`ManxPower`	`I don't bill for calls, I let my LD carrier bill for calls, users have to enter an auth code when making toll calls, all handled by the LD company.`
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`20:05.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[hC] : You'd be looking for PHP or PERL I believe ;)`
`20:05.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`get coding!`
`20:05.49`	`Corydon-w`	`Better learn SQL, too`
`20:05.54`	`trixter`	`supaplex: astbill even makes it easier for someone to compromise your billing system (and anything else there) and the database, asterisk and web server all must be on the same box :(`
`20:06.04`	`[hC]`	`I CAN do it myself, but why waste the time if its already done?`
`20:06.34`	`Corydon-w`	`Because it's only a waste of time if somebody else has done EXACTLY what YOU want`
`20:06.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Because your wheel will be even ROUNDER, and more aero-dynamic? ;)`
`20:06.52`	`Netgeeks`	`I want a rounder wheel!`
`20:06.52`	`Corydon-w`	`Like I said before, everybody wants something slightly different`
`20:07.03`	`file[desk]`	`and free, and already made`
`20:07.17`	`Corydon-w`	`file[desk]: yes, and that`
`20:07.40`	`trixter`	`I think a framework to get and update and all that would be a good way to start`
`20:08.07`	`trixter`	`that way people can use that as a backend for accessing the data and do all their business logic and front end themselves much more easily and quickly`
`20:08.21`	`Corydon-w`	`And let's not get started about the different rate table formats that providers like to give...`
`20:08.29`	`trixter`	`if I get certain contracts I will be doing that sooner than later, if I dont I will just be doing it later`
`20:08.40`	`file[desk]`	`well there's already many cdr handlers`
`20:09.28`	`Corydon-w`	`And I wrote SORT specifically so you could do LCR in the dialplan`
`20:10.04`	`Netgeeks`	`trixter writing a billing system for asterisk?`
`20:10.20`	`trixter`	`no more of a framework for dealing with the information asterisk needs/generates`
`20:10.49`	`trixter`	`but its not an active project yet cause I have other stuff that pays me money, until I get a contract that needs it I wont start unless I get some extra free time`
`20:10.52`	`Netgeeks`	`hrm, I just heard something fly overhead`
`20:11.16`	`Corydon-w`	`Crop duster?`
`20:11.23`	`trixter`	`its not that complex, just make a class/module in whatever language that will for example get user properties, write them to whatever output (database, static file, etc)`
`20:11.35`	`trixter`	`for each aspect of asterisk write some handler for that type`
`20:11.40`	`Netgeeks`	`trixters a bird, a plane... trixter's reply`
`20:11.41`	`trixter`	`its just time consuming`
`20:11.53`	`Netgeeks`	`ah, okay, I get it`
`20:12.46`	`Netgeeks`	`Yeah, I know how that goes, I've been working on an Asterisk GUI for a little over a year, but only recently power coded it to complete (well almost done) because someone paid me a large bundle of money to finish it`
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`20:13.15`	`trixter`	`that way its more trivial for someone to write a front end that deals with asterisk data and whatever other stuff they have to do, slap it in whatever front end and poof`
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`20:14.23`	`trixter`	`just gotta make sure that the api you present is useful, covers virtually every aspect, etc. or it will be harder to use it than it will to write the code again.. but that should make it FAR easier to work with asterisk than everyone writing their own handlers for the same stuff ...`
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`20:15.14`	`lesouvage`	`I have a problem with a billion hfc isdn card. I tried to put all the relevant on http://pastebin.ca/32137 . Can somebody plesae take a look. I seem to miss something.`
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`20:28.14`	`lesouvage`	`zttool shows that the card is ok`
`20:28.34`	`brettnem`	`hey has anyone had any problems with the polycom 1.6.2 firmware not respecting CANCELs on occasion?`
`20:29.25`	`brettnem`	`if I dial multiple phones (with the & notation) and one answers, the second phone doesn't stop ringing sometimes.. CANCEL goes out, but phone continues to ring and if it's answered it sends out a 200 OK`
`20:30.06`	`brettnem`	`looks like a bug.. I've got some fancy traces if anyone thinks they can help out`
`20:30.32`	`saftsack`	`hi`
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`20:34.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I'm ffeling evil : I have just "borrowed" a DID at work which redirects to my home * box :) Since I use busy/no-answer transfer on my POTS line I'll forward it to the DID and I am now a full-blown PRI on top of my POTS :)`
`20:35.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And am rigging my routed DID's CLID to match...`
`20:36.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`brettnem : 1.6.3 is out, no?`
`20:36.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I just set up a 601 w/ 2 modules today with 1.6.2...`
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`20:39.05`	`xkev`	`wrong window`
`20:39.11`	`xkev`	`I can't type`
`20:39.13`	`xkev`	`fender, how is it`
`20:39.14`	`Ariel_`	`1.6.3 is out`
`20:39.28`	`zigman`	`i what way does the new app_dial differ fomr the 1.0 * in respect to the CallerID thing ?`
`20:39.46`	`zigman`	`i only find how to restore the old behavior`
`20:40.06`	`Druken`	`damn snow!`
`20:40.12`	`xkev`	`does the 601 handle shitloads of presence subscriptions ok? or get all slow and shit`
`20:41.26`	`Ariel_`	`Druken, sorry for the snow. I have no snow, in fact I have not seen any real snow in years.`
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`20:42.09`	`Druken`	`Ariel_: lucky you`
`20:42.34`	`Ariel_`	`Druken, thanks. But I do miss snow. There are no hills either so can't go skying either`
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`20:43.10`	`brettnem`	`hmm.. maybe I should try 1.6.3`
`20:43.45`	`MstlyHrmls`	`brettnem: dunno if I can help much, but I'd be willing to look a the traces`
`20:43.46`	`[hC]`	`Do the Cisco 7914's usually come with a mounting bracket to attach it to the 7940/60??`
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`20:43.58`	`xkev`	`what'd they fix and/or break worse between 1.6.2 and 1.6.3`
`20:44.04`	`Druken`	`Ariel_: you are free to have it all...`
`20:44.26`	`brettnem`	`MstlyHrmls: ok, I'll post it.. one sec..`
`20:44.39`	`djMax`	`dumb question perhaps... Is cvs.digium.com gone, and replaced by svn or something?`
`20:44.47`	`MstlyHrmls`	`xkev: I think the presence is still limited to 7 :-7`
`20:45.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xkev : how is what?`
`20:46.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Presence Seems to be slow sometimes and I find after populating the console with #'s that a reboot helps initialize it better. I heard something about it not working great past 7 or so though.`
`20:46.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MstlyHrmls : really?`
`20:46.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MstlyHrmls : whats the reasoning?`
`20:46.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`(since I've got 2 modules for my 601)`
`20:47.13`	`MstlyHrmls`	`[TK]D-Fender: beats me, I think Kevin Fleming mentioned it and said it'd be fixed in a later release`
`20:47.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MstlyHrmls : so its an * thing and not a Polycom thing....`
`20:48.09`	`MstlyHrmls`	`no, it's a Polycom thing`
`20:48.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`With just a little more effort from both sides * and Polycom could become the standard for PBX's.... we need tighter integration. The ACD stuff seems interesting.`
`20:48.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MstlyHrmls :OH.`
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`20:48.36`	`file[desk]`	`but doesn't fall down!`
`20:48.41`	`alexhopper`	`weebles wabble but they dont fall down`
`20:48.41`	`MstlyHrmls`	`too late :-7`
`20:48.49`	`Igbothom_III`	`polycom handsets are nice, agreed, but yes, a little more work from both sides...`
`20:48.56`	`MstlyHrmls`	`<-- defective weeble`
`20:49.08`	`file[desk]`	`MstlyHrmls: have a warranty?`
`20:49.16`	`Igbothom_III`	`hope your mom don't find out, she'd be disappointed`
`20:49.31`	`MstlyHrmls`	`file[desk]: I lost the paperwork`
`20:49.36`	`file[desk]`	`MstlyHrmls: darn`
`20:50.23`	`file[desk]`	`[TK]D-Fender: !!!!!!!!!`
`20:50.53`	`brettnem`	`MstlyHrmls: check out http://pastebin.ca/32144`
`20:51.04`	`MstlyHrmls`	`brettnem: thanks`
`20:51.54`	`djMax`	`any ideas on cvsup failing?`
`20:52.12`	`ManxPower`	`djMax, You are not on the mailing lists, are you?`
`20:52.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`yeah file[desk]`
`20:52.24`	`djMax`	`no, but I searched em, or tried.`
`20:52.40`	`ManxPower`	`Try searching for the message about not using cvs anymore.`
`20:52.49`	`Igbothom_III`	`did u read the channel topic, perchance? :)`
`20:53.13`	`ManxPower`	`Well, looking at the topic would be easier, of course.`
`20:53.17`	`djMax`	`freakin' google. Ha! Channel topic, yeah. nice one. :)`
`20:53.23`	`brettnem`	`MstlyHrmls: any ideas? weird eh?`
`20:53.29`	`wunderkin`	`cvs is still supposted to be supported but i think they are having problems, but he asked about cvsup which isnt being used anymore`
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`20:54.10`	`ctooley`	`Does Asterisk have large features for which there is a bounty?`
`20:54.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`T.38 <-`
`20:54.23`	`djMax`	`Skype`
`20:54.24`	`brettnem`	`wahoo`
`20:54.32`	`MstlyHrmls`	`brettnem: yeah, I'd need to look at the actual signalling to see if it's an * or Polycom issue though. (I ain't a SIP expert at all, but I'm somewhat familar with it)`
`20:55.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I suspect * more than Polycom... considering * isn't v2 or anything....`
`20:55.07`	`brettnem`	`what do you mean the actual signalling? that is it.. yuo want the actual sip messages?`
`20:55.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`and otherwise it wouldn't seel :)`
`20:55.30`	`ctooley`	`[TK]D-Fender, was T.38 directed at me?`
`20:55.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ctooley : yes`
`20:55.53`	`brettnem`	`also looks like asterisk doesn't attempt to retransmit a CANCEL.. that's weird`
`20:56.02`	`MstlyHrmls`	`brettnem: yeah, like an ethereal capture or something. If your not comfortable sending that to some stranger on the internet, I understand :-)`
`20:56.20`	`ctooley`	`[TK]D-Fender, So if we were to put up money for T.38 how much would be a reasonable bounty?`
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`20:56.31`	`brettnem`	`MstlyHrmls: let me see what I can do.`
`20:56.37`	`MstlyHrmls`	`brettnem: that's true, interesting...`
`20:56.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ctooley : take a number, there's a lineup on that one already :)`
`20:57.14`	`ctooley`	`[TK]D-Fender, Ah, I was thinking of something that's not sponsored yet.`
`20:57.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ctooley : You just feel like putting up money to help *'s development?`
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`20:58.00`	`ctooley`	`[TK]D-Fender, yeah, the company is. We built our business around it, we thought we'd give something back`
`20:58.11`	`Katty`	`ctooley: gosh.`
`20:58.17`	`Katty`	`ctooley: i suddenly love your company (=`
`20:58.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Wow..... well there are some things I'd like (call center stuff which * is a little weak on)`
`20:58.37`	`[hC]`	`So, anyone have a cisco 7914 expansion module going?`
`20:58.39`	`Katty`	`i'll second that.`
`20:58.43`	`ctooley`	`Our dev team is busy on our product, but we are evaluating putting up the money for a bounty`
`20:59.18`	`hrisc`	`hey is it possible to link * to a M$ JET database support app?`
`20:59.34`	`ctooley`	`hrisc, what do you mean by "link"`
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`20:59.40`	`djMax`	`I'd also like VoiceXML/SALT integration, but that's probably nutty`
`20:59.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`hrisc : give an example`
`20:59.44`	`hrisc`	`like via ODBC`
`20:59.46`	`ctooley`	`if you mean pull the extensions out, dunno`
`20:59.59`	`ctooley`	`depends on your database`
`21:00.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`hrisc : what aspects of * would you see using this functionality?`
`21:00.08`	`hrisc`	`all my support calls are logged in a JET database`
`21:00.22`	`ctooley`	`if you mean, create something allows you to click a button next person and have a call started, yes`
`21:00.23`	`hrisc`	`ex: callers call in and enter their support number`
`21:00.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`hrisc : You could use ODBC to point to that for CDR's I guess...`
`21:00.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`hrisc : yeah doing a lookup of your Jet dta in an IVR is very do-able`
`21:01.04`	`hrisc`	`say 312456 and * queries the JET database looks up that number and plays back via a status`
`21:01.11`	`ctooley`	`If you mean someone calls it and then some app you have answering call uses data out of the database, that's a function of the app you write, not asteriskm`
`21:01.15`	`hrisc`	`sweet!!!`
`21:01.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`hrisc : this requires scripting like AGI for example, but wouldn't be termed "difficult"`
`21:01.55`	`djMax`	`I have some code that will let you use AGI to windows and call JScript/C#/exe/dll on the win side, if that would help you`
`21:02.12`	`ctooley`	`I guess I kinda need to talk to the people at Digium`
`21:02.14`	`hrisc`	`djmax: that would be great`
`21:02.23`	`mog_work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:02.34`	`Netgeeks`	`you don't even need an agi to do that`
`21:03.07`	`ctooley`	`mog_work, we're thinking of putting up the cash to sponsor some functionality that Asterisk needs. We just need to know what to sponsor and how much money it would be worth`
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`21:03.27`	`mog_work`	`what you looking for`
`21:03.40`	`brettnem`	`MstlyHrmls: got your full traces.. ready?`
`21:03.51`	`brettnem`	`MstlyHrmls: http://pastebin.ca/32147`
`21:04.08`	`mog_work`	`so ctooley your looking at sponsoring some development?`
`21:04.17`	`Netgeeks`	`ctooley: one place you could start is go to mantis and look for all the feature requests`
`21:04.19`	`ctooley`	`mog_work, yeah`
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`21:04.34`	`mog_work`	`astjab.org is accepting donations ^_^`
`21:04.38`	`ctooley`	`Netgeeks, good idea`
`21:05.11`	`Netgeeks`	`If you want something to work on, people who take time to put feature requests into mantis probably have a valid reason for doing so`
`21:05.24`	`mog_work`	`what features are you looking for`
`21:05.30`	`Katty`	`hey Netgeeks :)))`
`21:05.46`	`Netgeeks`	`I want asterisk to drive my car so I can sleep on the way to and from places... ;)`
`21:05.52`	`mog_work`	`also on voip-info there is a list of bounties`
`21:06.03`	`ctooley`	`mog_work, we've paid for our features already, we're just looking at sponsoring something for the good of the project`
`21:06.05`	`MstlyHrmls`	`brettnem: thanks! I've gotta run off for a while, but I'll have a looke when I get back (grumble work getting in the way of interesting stuff grumble)`
`21:06.13`	`Katty`	`Netgeeks: :>>>>>`
`21:06.19`	`djMax`	`is there a page for svn like there was for setting up cvsup? The topic link just says "we use svn" which isn't super useful for the details`
`21:06.22`	`brettnem`	`MstlyHrmls: ok, thanks.. let me know what you think..`
`21:06.24`	`mog_work`	`i understand ctooley`
`21:06.53`	`mog_work`	`what is something you would like to see though, even if it is just for fun, good of humanity, or intelectually stimulating`
`21:07.34`	`ctooley`	`We're having issues with SIP, but I think those are provider problems and older versions of Asterisk HEAD, not current codebase problems`
`21:07.46`	`mog_work`	`mmhm`
`21:07.57`	`Netgeeks`	`app_conference seems to have alot of people wanting it... for starters, however I have no clue as to it's status`
`21:08.58`	`brettnem`	`anyone got a link for 1.6.3 for polycom?`
`21:09.57`	`ctooley`	`maybe we should put up a bounty for making voip-info.org faster`
`21:10.49`	`mog_work`	`lol`
`21:10.50`	`djMax`	`conference is a good one, * could really clean up with some more advanced conferencing features.`
`21:11.30`	`djMax`	`beefier web interfaces would be nice, though not sure if 1.2 has touched that at all`
`21:11.43`	`mog_work`	`realtime everything...`
`21:11.49`	`djMax`	`XML config files. :)`
`21:11.54`	`mog_work`	`no`
`21:12.03`	`ctooley`	`the Skype channel driver actually seems like a good idea, as our product is eBay based`
`21:12.11`	`brettnem`	`ebay based..`
`21:12.20`	`brettnem`	`damn polycoms`
`21:12.24`	`brettnem`	`grrrrrrr`
`21:12.24`	`djMax`	`only problem there is you're dependent on skype to some degree and they don't seem super helpful`
`21:12.51`	`brettnem`	`whatever happened to bellster?`
`21:12.54`	`djMax`	`oh, or how about port * to c#, that should be easy enough.`
`21:12.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Great idea -> SQLite native support and/or DB abstraction layer that would amongst others offer SQLite directly`
`21:13.02`	`ctooley`	`djMax, but the Director of Development at eBay is our contact for our work, he could probably push some leverage over at Skype at this point`
`21:13.22`	`mog_work`	`skype and asterisk would be intresting but ugly`
`21:13.28`	`djMax`	`cool, I know the Director of Marketing, happy to gang up on them with you`
`21:13.34`	`mog_work`	`esp as we dont have wideband`
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`21:13.43`	`mog_work`	`maybe you should fund that`
`21:13.50`	`djMax`	`what's that mean?`
`21:13.57`	`ctooley`	`mog_work, an internet connection for you?`
`21:14.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Skype : P2P wanna-be app! Long live client-server with real PSTN!`
`21:14.15`	`mog_work`	`no wideband audio`
`21:14.23`	`mog_work`	`skype is 16khz audio path`
`21:14.28`	`brettnem`	`pstn sux`
`21:14.29`	`mog_work`	`asterisk and regular phones are 8`
`21:14.35`	`ctooley`	`[TK]D-Fender, I like the idea of real PSTN but our spike traffic makes PSTN not work`
`21:14.43`	`mog_work`	`i have interent just need money ^_^`
`21:15.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`brettnem : Sure PSTN "sucks" but try talking to the rest of the world without it :)`
`21:15.21`	`ctooley`	`mog_work, ahhh, so wideband audio would be a requirement of the bounty... which means it would have to be reasonably large`
`21:15.51`	`ctooley`	`[TK]D-Fender, we don't use PSTN.. we use people who do that. :)`
`21:15.56`	`djMax`	`is upping the sampling rate that hard?`
`21:16.00`	`brettnem`	`YES`
`21:16.15`	`mog_work`	`upping and downing is not just fun`
`21:16.15`	`djMax`	`yeesh, why? (or don't answer if it's long, no biggie)`
`21:16.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I recently encountered a guy here who actually set up * with the intent of not using any kind of FWD or PSTN (VoIP trunked or land line) connectivity at all...`
`21:16.23`	`Supaplex`	`because`
`21:16.49`	`brettnem`	`everything is 8 at the core in *`
`21:16.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Just direct sip://me@here.com`
`21:16.55`	`saftsack`	`howto tell debian not to load hisax?`
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`21:17.42`	`mog_work`	`well if we did wideband`
`21:17.46`	`mog_work`	`it would need to be done right`
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`21:18.05`	`mog_work`	`and be able to do more than just 8 or 16 i would think`
`21:18.23`	`mog_work`	`because if we put in arch. it would be cool to be able to do 44.1 for public speaking etc`
`21:20.31`	`Tall-guy`	`I'm sure this question has been asked a zillion times, but is there an easy way to find out what features are available in, for example Asterisk 1.2 vs CVShead04/06/05`
`21:20.44`	`mog_work`	`changelog`
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`21:21.19`	`djMax`	`yeah, if only the changelog had links to what "CLI realtime stuff" meant.`
`21:21.31`	`hrisc`	`mog: at 44.1 isnt that like half a T1 in bandwidth`
`21:22.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`more`
`21:22.14`	`mog_work`	`yeah`
`21:22.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`150k/s vs 1544kbps`
`21:22.26`	`mog_work`	`not for normal calls but`
`21:22.29`	`Tall-guy`	`is there a CVS changelog? (I know where asterisk 1.x changelog is)`
`21:22.36`	`mog_work`	`lets say you wanted to record a cd`
`21:22.40`	`mog_work`	`and you had the bandwith`
`21:22.47`	`mog_work`	`you could send it over asterisk`
`21:22.48`	`mog_work`	`etc`
`21:23.04`	`file[desk]`	`that's... evil`
`21:23.20`	`file[desk]`	`but, yeah we need to change how we handle audio internally - having it as a numerical form is just not that good`
`21:23.22`	`mog_work`	`asterisk could = media gateway`
`21:23.29`	`mog_work`	`yeah`
`21:23.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`nice idea.... if we though BT would account for 1/2 the worlds traffic, wait till its "lets have everyone stream CD's though *"`
`21:23.36`	`tzanger`	`asterisk's unfortunately not designed to be a media gateway`
`21:23.46`	`file[desk]`	`having it as a pointer to a structure containing the information would be handy`
`21:23.48`	`tzanger`	`too much hardcoded for 8kHz signed linear`
`21:23.54`	`mog_work`	`i disagree it has a lot of stuff to do that`
`21:23.57`	`tzanger`	`YATE's more the media router, but * has all the applications`
`21:23.57`	`mog_work`	`well yeah tzanger`
`21:24.00`	`mog_work`	`strip that out`
`21:24.06`	`mog_work`	`then your fine`
`21:24.10`	`djMax`	`so what does it mean if I had libc6 installed but * can't find stdio.h?`
`21:24.15`	`mog_work`	`and have way to up and down sample stuf`
`21:24.21`	`mog_work`	`kernel headers djmaax`
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`21:25.12`	`hrisc`	`a media gateway would be cool`
`21:26.56`	`hrisc`	`you stream audio or video thru * to users or phones with video capabilities`
`21:27.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ok, TGIF! I'm off for home!`
`21:27.57`	`Supaplex`	`or tv!`
`21:28.06`	`Supaplex`	`hdtv heh`
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`21:28.58`	`hrisc`	`would take some serius bandwidth and cpu power esp if your source was mpeg2 and the destination codec was divx`
`21:29.15`	`Supaplex`	`yoink :P`
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`21:33.29`	`djMax`	`the 1.2 presentation mentions "realtime voicemail." I can't find somewhere that says what this really means.`
`21:37.57`	`mog_work`	`yay`
`21:38.47`	`ctooley`	`sounds like we're going to do something along the lines of starting a pool of money and as the pool grows we'll assign some of it to bounties and pay them as they're completed.`
`21:39.20`	`mog_work`	`cool`
`21:39.56`	`ctooley`	`which means I'm going to need to start working out a team of community members to pick bounties and decide when they're done.`
`21:40.25`	`docelmo`	`w00t!`
`21:40.30`	`Netgeeks`	`ooooh, sounds like a fun job`
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`21:41.03`	`PBXtech`	`compiling kernels suck sometimes`
`21:41.14`	`brettnem`	`sometimes?`
`21:41.26`	`docelmo`	`brettnem, true..`
`21:41.33`	`docelmo`	`I always forget a piece of hardware..`
`21:41.35`	`ctooley`	`compiling kernels suck`
`21:41.35`	`Netgeeks`	`the only time it doesn't suck is when you get payed by the hour to watch them compile`
`21:41.54`	`PBXtech`	`though i had it all done and now my damn monitor is off. Laughing Out Loud`
`21:42.01`	`PBXtech`	`ohh colors`
`21:42.18`	`PBXtech`	`must have messed up the driver`
`21:42.30`	`hrisc`	`later all - have a good weekend`
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`21:42.55`	`Netgeeks`	`ctooley: If he's willing John Todd would be a good person to get to help you pick and decide when done`
`21:44.05`	`andu`	`Hi I'm having a problem getting 2 Asterisk boxes to share the same databse when it comes to SIP peers; using CVS as of a few minutes ago. Could anyone point me in the right direction (links to docs are welcome :) )`
`21:44.27`	`Netgeeks`	`andu are you using realtime?`
`21:44.34`	`andu`	`Netgeeks: yes`
`21:45.16`	`Netgeeks`	`hrm, should work fine, just need to have the extconfig.conf and res_<driver>.conf file configured to point at the same database/tables`
`21:45.22`	`anthm`	`you need my sip cluster thingybob`
`21:45.28`	`andu`	`Netgeeks: used to work with the patch provided in #4832 but not after it's be integrated into CVS`
`21:45.58`	`Netgeeks`	`I thought that was finally integrated into head, antm`
`21:46.03`	`Netgeeks`	`anthm`
`21:46.10`	`anthm`	`it was "fixed" when it was added`
`21:46.17`	`Netgeeks`	`LOL`
`21:46.17`	`anthm`	`sigh`
`21:46.33`	`Netgeeks`	`I'm still using a version of head patched with your patch`
`21:46.41`	`Netgeeks`	`and it works great for me... except`
`21:46.49`	`Netgeeks`	`one wierd realtime problem`
`21:47.39`	`Netgeeks`	`if a non-register sip peer contacts the realtime system, it doesn't load the user entry for the invite, it rejects the invite, but if I have it register or I make an outbound call on the matching peer, then it works fine`
`21:47.50`	`Netgeeks`	`don't think that has anything to do with your patch tho`
`21:47.52`	`andu`	`sorry guys phone`
`21:47.58`	`andu`	`reading now your comments`
`21:48.20`	`Netgeeks`	`what is your patch # again, Anthm, for andu's sake`
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`21:48.48`	`Netgeeks`	`and that's sake, not sake as in the warm sake drink`
`21:48.58`	`andu`	`anthm: yes looks like something broke when it got integrated (referring to 4832)`
`21:49.09`	`hypa7ia`	`hehe, everyone call 1-800-IBM-HELP (warning: raunchy)... they got 0wned, it's really funny :)`
`21:50.06`	`ctooley`	`Netgeeks, thanks for the suggestion.`
`21:50.51`	`Netgeeks`	`and I'd be glad to volunteer too, ctooley, but you'll find my preferences go towards large cluster implementations....`
`21:51.02`	`anthm`	`sigh, nobody ever believes me you can see what my comments are...`
`21:51.05`	`Netgeeks`	`and that may be too tight a view for most folks`
`21:51.14`	`anthm`	`i'll voulenteer to get paid some of the cash!`
`21:51.34`	`ctooley`	`Netgeeks, you might find that is where my preferences lie as well. :)`
`21:51.37`	`drumkilla`	`cash? what?`
`21:51.47`	`Netgeeks`	`you hush drumkilla`
`21:51.51`	`ctooley`	`anthm, :) let's see how much we can raise`
`21:52.10`	`Supaplex`	`I see your two bits, and raise you another two bits`
`21:52.38`	`Netgeeks`	`I'm all in with 128 bytes!`
`21:53.11`	`andu`	`:)`
`21:53.51`	`Netgeeks`	`oof`
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`21:55.13`	`Supaplex`	`[TK]D-Fender: go home!`
`21:55.16`	`Supaplex`	`:P`
`21:55.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I am :)`
`21:55.21`	`mog_work`	`hypa7ia is that reall ibm`
`21:55.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Fortunately live close to work :)`
`21:55.46`	`Supaplex`	`that's nice`
`21:56.03`	`hypa7ia`	`mog_work: a friend says yes but i think his leg is being pulled`
`21:56.17`	`hypa7ia`	`as a quick lookup shows it's not them`
`21:56.25`	`Supaplex`	`you can't pull a snake's leg`
`21:56.25`	`mog_work`	`yeah it didnt sound that way`
`21:56.30`	`mog_work`	`was a funny similarity`
`21:56.39`	`Druken`	`hahahaha`
`21:57.32`	`ctooley`	`hmmm, so whatcha guys think a good bounty for wideband audio support will be?`
`21:57.46`	`Druken`	`some how i don't think that is ibm`
`21:57.51`	`Supaplex`	`a loaf of day old bread`
`21:58.04`	`mog_work`	`nothing intresting in phonespell`
`21:58.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ctooley : Ask yourself "who is equipped to benifit from wideband"?`
`21:58.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`No VoIP phone or PST connection I'm aware of.`
`21:58.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`PSTN`
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`21:59.08`	`freezer`	`hi`
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`21:59.28`	`Druken`	`wideband?`
`21:59.41`	`freezer`	`i got some errors while running install.sh...should i just run install.sh again if i fixed the errors?`
`21:59.41`	`ctooley`	`[TK]D-Fender, As Skype wouldn't sound as good without it, and it's not going to get more widely used if something substantial doesn't support it, looking at the features that play catchup isn't where all the focus should be.`
`22:03.18`	`*** part/#asterisk SparFux (n=player@tor/session/x-26d69cf53de14dcf)`
`22:03.57`	`freezer`	`no one can help me? ;/`
`22:04.15`	`ManxPower`	`freezer, I was not aware there was an install.sh`
`22:04.38`	`freezer`	`in the bristuff package`
`22:04.45`	`ManxPower`	`[root@pbx-1 asterisk]# find . -name install.sh -print`
`22:04.45`	`ManxPower`	`[root@pbx-1 asterisk]#`
`22:04.56`	`ManxPower`	`freezer, perhaps you should ask on a bristuff channel?`
`22:05.01`	`*** join/#asterisk brad_mssw (n=brad@shop.monetra.com)`
`22:05.22`	`freezer`	`is there one?`
`22:05.31`	`ManxPower`	`freezer, I have no idea, but it's not here.`
`22:06.11`	`*** join/#asterisk Pete_Largo (n=PeteLarg@225-196.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com)`
`22:06.24`	`Pete_Largo`	`my asterisk 1.2 is dieing and I don't know why`
`22:07.08`	`Corydon-w`	`Maybe it's terminally ill.`
`22:07.12`	`KranZ`	`did you feed it?`
`22:07.28`	`Pete_Largo`	`very funny, this is a major problem for me...`
`22:07.50`	`Corydon-w`	`Are you running with -g to generate a core dump in /tmp ?`
`22:07.52`	`MGSsancho`	`speaking of dieing servers`
`22:07.53`	`tzanger`	`Pete_Largo: what is the problem, precisely?`
`22:08.21`	`ManxPower`	`Isn't there an entire document in the Asterisk source about how to report a crash?`
`22:08.40`	`Corydon-w`	`Build a copy of Asterisk with 'make dont-optimize', run the executable with -g, and get a backtrace from the coredump when it crashes.`
`22:08.55`	`Pete_Largo`	`tzanger: when I am on the phone (I am the only person that uses it regularly) it just drops... asterisk is dead with no explanation`
`22:08.56`	`ManxPower`	`Ah yes, README.backtrace`
`22:09.00`	`Pete_Largo`	`I'll try that`
`22:09.17`	`tzanger`	`Pete_Largo: yeah you definitely need a backtrace`
`22:09.44`	`Pete_Largo`	`I'll try that right now`
`22:09.46`	`Corydon-w`	`~bt`
`22:09.51`	`jbot`	`bt sux0rs. Bhutan`
`22:10.24`	`Corydon-w`	`~backtrace`
`22:13.58`	`marcus2`	`woot`
`22:14.10`	`marcus2`	`graybar had the rj21 pigtail i need for my channel bank, for the low price of $10`
`22:14.45`	`Corydon-w`	`Yeah, but make sure you get the right length and gender`
`22:15.04`	`Corydon-w`	`Graybar carries all 3 variations and various lengths`
`22:15.38`	`Corydon-w`	`M-M, F-F, and M-F`
`22:15.59`	`tzanger`	`sounds like a veritable orgy`
`22:16.20`	`tzanger`	`Pete_Largo: hopefully you compiled with debugging info and didn't strip the executables or a backtrace will be useless anyway`
`22:17.07`	`Pete_Largo`	`I don't even know what that means tzanger`
`22:17.17`	`tzanger`	`how did you get the binaries?`
`22:17.25`	`Druken`	`rj21?`
`22:18.02`	`Pete_Largo`	`cvs from digium... checkout -r v1_2 something like that...`
`22:18.23`	`Pete_Largo`	`then make, make install, make samples`
`22:18.57`	`KranZ`	`make samples will screw you if you already have .confs`
`22:19.12`	`brettnem`	`jbot, what's a backtrace?`
`22:19.18`	`tzanger`	`Pete_Largo: ok you should be good then`
`22:19.20`	`tzanger`	`~backtrace`
`22:19.26`	`brettnem`	`jbot sux`
`22:19.28`	`jbot`	`hmm... sux is su with xauth, to run X apps as root : http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ or sucks, or "I have an exagerrated opinion about something I don't really know much about."`
`22:19.42`	`Pete_Largo`	`KranZ, it would normally but this is a new box`
`22:19.42`	`KranZ`	`job backtrace`
`22:19.44`	`brettnem`	`hmmm`
`22:19.49`	`KranZ`	`jbot backtrace`
`22:20.07`	`KranZ`	`jbot poop`
`22:20.08`	`jbot`	`ACTION fertilizes the channel`
`22:20.08`	`tzanger`	`jbot, backtrace is a debugging tool that is invaluable when trying to track down asterisk crashes (use -g with asterisk to generate a core, then read README.backtrace)`
`22:20.10`	`jbot`	`tzanger: okay`
`22:20.36`	`KranZ`	`jbot backtrace`
`22:20.38`	`jbot`	`hmm... backtrace is a debugging tool that is invaluable when trying to track down asterisk crashes (use -g with asterisk to generate a core, then read README.backtrace)`
`22:20.48`	`KranZ`	`gj`
`22:20.59`	`tzanger`	`jbot, core is an in-memory image of a crashed application. Asterisk will generate corefiles if you use -g. See "backtrace"`
`22:21.00`	`jbot`	`...but core is already something else...`
`22:21.06`	`tzanger`	`jbot, no, core is an in-memory image of a crashed application. Asterisk will generate corefiles if you use -g. See "backtrace"`
`22:21.07`	`jbot`	`okay, tzanger`
`22:21.20`	`tzanger`	`jbot, corefile is see: core`
`22:21.21`	`jbot`	`...but corefile is already something else...`
`22:21.21`	`*** join/#asterisk santiago (n=santiago@208.195.215.160)`
`22:21.25`	`tzanger`	`jbot, no, corefile is see: core`
`22:21.26`	`jbot`	`okay, tzanger`
`22:21.28`	`tzanger`	`there`
`22:21.36`	`tzanger`	`jbot likes comma splices`
`22:21.38`	`jbot`	`ACTION runs and gives comma splices a big bear-hug.`
`22:21.48`	`tzanger`	`haha`
`22:21.57`	`tzanger`	`~seen my dick in three years`
`22:21.59`	`jbot`	`tzanger: i haven't seen 'my dick in three years'`
`22:22.41`	`tzanger`	`~seen who put the ram in a-ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong`
`22:22.42`	`jbot`	`tzanger: i haven't seen 'who put the ram in a-ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong'`
`22:22.49`	`KranZ`	`heh`
`22:23.04`	`KranZ`	`this makes the final hours of work this week humorous`
`22:23.05`	`tzanger`	`~seen my cookies burp`
`22:23.07`	`jbot`	`tzanger: i haven't seen 'my cookies burp'`
`22:23.09`	`tzanger`	`er`
`22:23.16`	`tzanger`	`~seen your cookies burp`
`22:23.17`	`jbot`	`tzanger: i haven't seen 'your cookies burp'`
`22:23.18`	`ManxPower`	`There's nothing wrong with playing with jbot, but you should do it in private and wash your hands after.`
`22:23.30`	`tzanger`	`ManxPower: yeah but some of us are voyeuristic`
`22:23.33`	`KranZ`	`jbot slut`
`22:23.34`	`jbot`	`i guess slut is a loose person (figuratively speaking, of course) who has sex for the simple reason of having sex, or a term used by a prude to describe a normal person`
`22:23.42`	`ManxPower`	`EGADS! It's friday!@`
`22:23.43`	`KranZ`	`he`
`22:23.50`	`Netgeeks`	`for the te cards, if the card is configured in E1 mode and I configure it for T1 in zaptel.conf it throws an error when running ztcfg -v? or does it throw an error in startup of chan_zap.so?`
`22:24.04`	`LostFrog`	`jbot backtrace`
`22:24.05`	`jbot`	`hmm... backtrace is a debugging tool that is invaluable when trying to track down asterisk crashes (use -g with asterisk to generate a core, then read README.backtrace)`
`22:24.09`	`KranZ`	`ztcfg`
`22:24.19`	`Netgeeks`	`well bugger`
`22:24.29`	`LostFrog`	`jbot god`
`22:24.30`	`jbot`	`from memory, god is a llama, or real unless declared integer`
`22:24.41`	`LostFrog`	`lol.. real.`
`22:24.48`	`Netgeeks`	`I'm getting this error in chan_zap.so and can't fgiure out why: chan_zap.c:6842 mkintf: Signalling requested on channel 1 is PRI Signalling but line is in Unknown signalling 896 signalling`
`22:25.15`	`KranZ`	`is your D channel on the right channel?`
`22:25.26`	`Netgeeks`	`yup, bchan=24 dchan=1-23`
`22:25.36`	`KranZ`	`that's backwards`
`22:25.38`	`Pete_Largo`	`um`
`22:25.42`	`KranZ`	`1 dchan and 23 bchans`
`22:25.46`	`Pete_Largo`	`thanks KranZ`
`22:25.46`	`Netgeeks`	`doh`
`22:25.50`	`KranZ`	`heh`
`22:25.52`	`KranZ`	`slap`
`22:25.55`	`Netgeeks`	`sec, lemme see if I transposed that here or there`
`22:26.32`	`KranZ`	`so dchan=24 bchan=1-23`
`22:26.49`	`Netgeeks`	`yep, my bad`
`22:26.54`	`Netgeeks`	`thanks`
`22:26.57`	`KranZ`	`np`
`22:27.04`	`Netgeeks`	`guess I need to layoff the warm sake in the morning`
`22:27.17`	`KranZ`	`i could have used some`
`22:27.18`	`*** join/#asterisk genmud (n=genmud@ip68-98-82-206.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`22:27.24`	`KranZ`	`went out kinda hard last night`
`22:28.46`	`Pete_Largo`	`I could use some warm sake right about now... might make these crashes seem funny`
`22:29.20`	`Netgeeks`	`yep, that fixed it... sigh`
`22:29.30`	`ManxPower`	`Things were pretty quiet today for being a friday`
`22:29.46`	`ManxPower`	`You'd think that if you set more than 1 dchan Asterisk should complain!`
`22:30.16`	`KranZ`	`you can run more than 1 dchan on a pri`
`22:30.20`	`KranZ`	`its silly tho`
`22:30.51`	`Druken`	`why would you need more than 1 D ?`
`22:31.00`	`Pete_Largo`	`you normally wouldn't`
`22:31.12`	`Pete_Largo`	`although you can run more than 1 PRI off of 1 D-Chan`
`22:31.27`	`Pete_Largo`	`I think 5 to 1 or maybe it's 6 to 1, I forget...`
`22:31.53`	`KranZ`	`nfas`
`22:32.00`	`KranZ`	`jbot nfas`
`22:32.01`	`jbot`	`from memory, nfas is "Non-Facility Associated Signaling" FixMe: saves a D channel on PRI's orsomethingorother`
`22:32.08`	`Pete_Largo`	`right-o`
`22:32.33`	`Pete_Largo`	`in that case, you might want 2 D-Chans on separate PRIs for redundancy... maybe 1 and 3 or something`
`22:32.39`	`*** join/#asterisk m160858 (n=jsaenz@200.89.12.46)`
`22:34.40`	`Netgeeks`	`yup yup, make a NFAS group with 4 T1 circuits with a primary d chan and a backup d chan, so only 2 dchans for 4 circuits`
`22:35.06`	`Netgeeks`	`where the 4 circuit number is just an example`
`22:36.05`	`m160858`	`hi everyone`
`22:36.17`	`m160858`	`i need help`
`22:36.33`	`m160858`	`i've the follow queues http://pastebin.ca/32036`
`22:36.52`	`m160858`	`but just ring two of my extensions`
`22:37.13`	`m160858`	`the others two .. not ringing`
`22:37.18`	`freezer`	`germans here?`
`22:37.42`	`ManxPower`	`Does anyone have any suggestions for "workflow" applications?`
`22:39.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`m160858 : you mentioned 4 agents, but there are only 3....`
`22:39.37`	`ManxPower`	`i.e. I research equipment required for the task, I complete my task, mark it as "done", and hand the next step to the next person. They then pay for the item, records the tracking numbers and date/time in the project, then passes it on the the person who the device is shipped to, they document it arriving, inspect the item for damage, etc.`
`22:39.40`	`ManxPower`	`i.e. a workflow`
`22:39.57`	`*** part/#asterisk mkrufky (n=mk@68.160.103.77)`
`22:40.00`	`m160858`	`yes, that link it's only an example`
`22:40.58`	`tainted_`	`ManxPower like a spreadsheet?`
`22:41.12`	`ManxPower`	`tainted_, not really.`
`22:41.23`	`tainted_`	`why not write one`
`22:41.37`	`ManxPower`	`We are using a trouble ticketing system for this right now and it doesn't work as well as it could.`
`22:41.50`	`*** join/#asterisk BladeRunner05 (n=gianni@adsl-247-215.38-151.net24.it)`
`22:42.17`	`tainted_`	`hmm`
`22:42.47`	`tainted_`	`that's tough to find something customizable to your needs`
`22:42.52`	`tainted_`	`unless u write it yourself`
`22:43.05`	`*** join/#asterisk Fr0g (n=erik@openwire.metawire.org)`
`22:43.09`	`Fr0g`	`hey`
`22:43.13`	`*** join/#asterisk zotz (n=zotz@24.231.47.168)`
`22:43.25`	`Fr0g`	`I really need a CHEAP FXS card, where is the best place to get one?`
`22:43.44`	`ManxPower`	`Fr0g, there is NO such thing.`
`22:44.01`	`brettnem`	`get a sipura`
`22:44.08`	`ManxPower`	`The cheapest may be the SIPura SPA-2000, two FXS ports, runs SIP`
`22:44.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`yup SPA-200 is the value king....`
`22:44.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`errr SPA-2000`
`22:45.01`	`Fr0g`	`hmm`
`22:45.09`	`Fr0g`	`and it works with asterisk`
`22:45.14`	`trixter`	`$30 for a reflashable dlink svg1120s from best buy`
`22:45.17`	`Supaplex`	`SPA-2000 sp2 now with security enhancements cough`
`22:45.44`	`trixter`	`its the AT&T callvantage one, 2 FXS 1 FXO (passthrough if voip is down to pstn)`
`22:46.03`	`Netgeeks`	`Manxpower: hrm, that sounds alot like a um I forget the acronym or the name, but Microsoft project was an example of it`
`22:46.06`	`trixter`	`sip or mgcp but the reflash is for sip`
`22:46.08`	`Supaplex`	`you sure that's the right model? svg1120s = zero hits on google.`
`22:46.10`	`m160858`	`http://pastebin.ca/32165`
`22:46.20`	`trixter`	`no its not`
`22:46.22`	`trixter`	`dvg1120s`
`22:46.25`	`trixter`	`[Moreover Technologies - Computer security news] Hackers publish two more Windows attacks http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?r432073230`
`22:46.25`	`m160858`	`that is the real configuration`
`22:46.27`	`ManxPower`	`Netgeeks, Yes, but my idea is to not use damn gnatt charts.`
`22:46.28`	`trixter`	`er oops wrong link`
`22:46.31`	`trixter`	`http://www.anatifero.us/weblog/2005/11/09/linksys-dvg-1120s/`
`22:46.41`	`trixter`	`that says linksys but its really a dlink according to what I have read`
`22:46.49`	`m160858`	`http://pastebin.ca/32167`
`22:47.02`	`Netgeeks`	`GANT! thats the acronym`
`22:47.07`	`Supaplex`	`%-)`
`22:47.13`	`ManxPower`	`Whatever 8-)`
`22:47.24`	`trixter`	`Netgeeks: they should have worked another N in there so its gnat :P`
`22:47.32`	`trixter`	`er transposed rather than another`
`22:47.37`	`Netgeeks`	`Gigantic Asynchronous Nasty Table`
`22:48.10`	`Katty`	`Giant ANT problem.`
`22:48.12`	`trixter`	`then gigantic nasty async table :D`
`22:48.14`	`Fr0g`	`damn it i might as well just buy the TDM10B`
`22:48.16`	`saftsack`	`hi`
`22:48.20`	`trixter`	`gotta spell stuff !!`
`22:48.40`	`trixter`	`GNAT Gnat is Not an Async Table if you wanna be recursive`
`22:48.44`	`saftsack`	`im gettin a misterious error message while compiling my bristuff :(`
`22:49.13`	`Netgeeks`	`When I worked at the Nuke plant, we used a gant chart for outage work (usually 8-12 weeks of work witha downtime cost of $300k per hour in lost revenues) and the damn gant chart output in normal font sizes was about 35 yards long and about 3 yards tall`
`22:50.34`	`trixter`	`you might be able to uyse it without reflashing as mgcp device, something asterisk supports`
`22:50.39`	`trixter`	`but meh`
`22:51.07`	`*** part/#asterisk volkerli (n=volkerli@port-212-202-210-112.dynamic.qsc.de)`
`22:51.15`	`MstlyHrmls`	`brettnem: I had a look at the traces, and it seems like the bodies check out. but you're right, the CANCEL isn't being resent. Given that one of the first INVITEs had to be resent, it's possible that the CANCELs are getting lost somewhere occasionally`
`22:51.45`	`brettnem`	`MstlyHrmls: yeah, I'm checking that network segment now..`
`22:51.53`	`Netgeeks`	`well, booger, Gant isn't even an acronym, it's an incorrect shortening of Gantt which is the last name of the guy who created them in 1917, Henry L, Gantt`
`22:52.04`	`brettnem`	`MstlyHrmls: seems like tho... thatthe cancel should be re-transmitted`
`22:52.11`	`MstlyHrmls`	`brettnem: plus, one would think the server should return an error for the 200 OKs it's getting on the CANCELed call...`
`22:52.22`	`*** join/#asterisk file[laptop] (n=jcolp@mctnnbsa24w-142167049176.nb.aliant.net)`
`22:52.28`	`MstlyHrmls`	`but, that's getting into deeper SIP esoteria than I know :-)`
`22:53.08`	`m160858`	`hi?`
`22:53.14`	`brettnem`	`MstlyHrmls: it's causing a big headache.. only happening occaisionally`
`22:53.16`	`m160858`	`somebody can help me?`
`22:53.22`	`brettnem`	`m160858: maybe?`
`22:53.50`	`MstlyHrmls`	`brettnem: aye, I bet :-7`
`22:54.40`	`saftsack`	`http://pastebin.com/446726`
`22:54.45`	`saftsack`	`someone any ideas?`
`22:54.59`	`brettnem`	`MstlyHrmls: I have two receptionist phones.. they both ring when the main line is called. but when one answers, the other continues to ring`
`22:55.19`	`*** join/#asterisk dasenjo (n=dasenjo@63.245.87.62)`
`22:55.28`	`brettnem`	`saftsack: describe your problem please..`
`22:55.30`	`saftsack`	`oh`
`22:55.35`	`saftsack`	`i didnt install perl`
`22:55.45`	`saftsack`	`maybe installing it would be a good idea :)`
`22:56.09`	`tainted_`	`softsack: yea`
`22:56.18`	`m160858`	`brettnem?`
`22:56.19`	`m160858`	`hi`
`22:56.29`	`m160858`	`you know some about queues ?`
`22:58.44`	`MstlyHrmls`	`brettnem: brilliant :-7`
`22:59.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`m160858 : pastebin a call being processed by your queue`
`23:00.28`	`saftsack`	`brettnem, ok another error now`
`23:00.34`	`saftsack`	`ill paste it moment please`
`23:00.48`	`*** join/#asterisk NDT (i=NDT@cpe-24-195-219-101.nycap.res.rr.com)`
`23:01.01`	`*** join/#asterisk salviadud (n=dude@201.135.3.68)`
`23:01.12`	`saftsack`	`http://pastebin.com/446732`
`23:01.14`	`saftsack`	`here`
`23:01.27`	`saftsack`	`i am just compiling bristuff R8`
`23:01.33`	`NDT`	`Does meetme only work when you have a card? It won't work when you are using straight voip setup...no cards?`
`23:01.43`	`m160858`	`[TK]D-Fender .. i don't understand your question`
`23:01.59`	`NDT`	`I keep getting That is not a valid conference number heh`
`23:02.24`	`NDT`	`put the conference info in meetme.conf and extensions`
`23:03.15`	`m160858`	`ow ...i understand you now`
`23:03.19`	`saftsack`	`brettnem, do you have an idea?`
`23:03.22`	`m160858`	`hold me please`
`23:08.56`	`*** join/#asterisk pifiu (n=myassisb@208.205.181.170)`
`23:09.20`	`pifiu`	`just gotta post this`
`23:09.21`	`pifiu`	`http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5835027006`
`23:09.26`	`pifiu`	`gret deal =P`
`23:09.34`	`dasenjo`	`Hi, Im getting the error "Unable to handle indication 3 for 'Zap/1-1"`
`23:10.28`	`dasenjo`	`the fxs line of the channel is working well and can receive an place calls .. but the are no dail tone in the phone ..`
`23:10.31`	`m160858`	`http://pastebin.ca/32173`
`23:10.58`	`dasenjo`	`�can you help me?`
`23:11.10`	`m160858`	`now. the second extensions doesn't works`
`23:11.12`	`m160858`	`:(`
`23:11.45`	`NDT`	`does meetme only work with a card? Can it not work strictly voip?`
`23:11.51`	`*** join/#asterisk BladeRunner05 (n=gianni@adsl-247-215.38-151.net24.it)`
`23:12.27`	`mog_work`	`it can`
`23:12.32`	`mog_work`	`but you need a timing source`
`23:12.41`	`BladeRunner05`	`;`
`23:12.42`	`m160858`	`can you help me?`
`23:12.46`	`NDT`	`right now I keep getting an invalid extension`
`23:12.56`	`NDT`	`err invalid conference ID I mean`
`23:14.00`	`NDT`	`extensions.conf --> exten => 2323,1,MeetMe(4666) And then in meetme.conf I have conf => 4666`
`23:14.17`	`NDT`	`That is not a valid conference number heh`
`23:14.58`	`m160858`	`hi?`
`23:15.00`	`m160858`	`http://pastebin.ca/32173`
`23:15.06`	`NDT`	`Is that all I am supposed to need as far as the conference room itself?`
`23:18.45`	`NDT`	`The wiki says you must have a zaptel interface for conferencing to work`
`23:19.26`	`*** join/#asterisk proti (n=seb@calypso.frankengul.org)`
`23:19.32`	`proti`	`morning`
`23:19.33`	`mog_work`	`yes`
`23:19.43`	`mog_work`	`but it doesnt have to be in the conference`
`23:19.46`	`mog_work`	`go make ztdummy`
`23:19.48`	`mog_work`	`and be happy`
`23:19.55`	`file[laptop]`	`mog_work: !!!`
`23:20.10`	`mog_work`	`file!!`
`23:20.30`	`file[laptop]`	`what'cha up to?`
`23:20.47`	`mog_work`	`getting ready to go to a friends wedding`
`23:20.51`	`mog_work`	`but my ride hasnt showed`
`23:20.55`	`tzanger`	`that's what I'm gonna watch tonight`
`23:20.57`	`tzanger`	`wedding crashers`
`23:21.17`	`mog_work`	`heh`
`23:21.53`	`file[laptop]`	`ooh wedding`
`23:22.09`	`NDT`	`ztdummy is installed`
`23:22.19`	`proti`	`Is there a way to register as From: <sip:08701234> ?`
`23:22.23`	`NDT`	`Thats why I was wondering why I keep getting that is not a valid conference number heh`
`23:23.15`	`proti`	`I can't figure what I should put in the sip.conf to get a register without any @sip ?`
`23:23.35`	`m160858`	`hey, i have problems with my queues`
`23:23.50`	`m160858`	`who knows works on queues?`
`23:23.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`m160858 : copy the CLI output of a call that is being processed by your queue so we can see what certain agents aren't being called`
`23:24.26`	`m160858`	`this is the last CLI http://pastebin.ca/32173`
`23:25.03`	`KriS83`	`anyone here that has quadBRI cards from junghanns?`
`23:26.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`m160858 : why do you keep calling the queue back?`
`23:26.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`let the call sit in queue a while!`
`23:26.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`You don't seemt o be giving it time to try the next agent`
`23:27.20`	`m160858`	`queue back?`
`23:27.37`	`m160858`	`i have a call center`
`23:27.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`you keep calling the queue, waiting only a little and hanging up! Stop hanging up and just WAIT in there. I want to see it try the next agaent...`
`23:29.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`and after this next attempt do a "show queues" in CLI and include that in the next pastebin`
`23:29.33`	`m160858`	`i call from the two phones`
`23:29.46`	`m160858`	`and now, just ringing one extension`
`23:31.14`	`m160858`	`i'll call again`
`23:31.19`	`m160858`	`hold me please`
`23:31.25`	`m160858`	`i try this, again`
`23:32.10`	`*** join/#asterisk d-tech (n=dtc@node-423a1ebb.cle.onnet.us.uu.net)`
`23:35.54`	`m160858`	`ok`
`23:36.02`	`m160858`	`this is the last CLI`
`23:36.04`	`m160858`	`http://pastebin.ca/32179`
`23:36.48`	`saftsack`	`somebody knows the bytes2transmit problem?`
`23:36.59`	`m160858`	`i see, then ... when i try to call for 3rd time ... try to ring in the first extension .. again`
`23:37.06`	`m160858`	`that's bad`
`23:37.14`	`m160858`	`but i don't understan why`
`23:38.37`	`m160858`	`some idea?`
`23:38.53`	`m160858`	`what 'im doing bad`
`23:40.04`	`proti`	`I want asterisk to register as From: <01233> ? Can't figure the correct parameters ?`
`23:40.54`	`*** join/#asterisk Blackhold (n=Blackhol@217.124.24.105)`
`23:42.52`	`m160858`	`here's the CLi .. with show queues`
`23:42.54`	`m160858`	`http://pastebin.ca/32180`
`23:48.49`	`m160858`	`hello?`
`23:49.13`	`trixter`	`when anyone else sees the term 'cli' do they think clear interrupts? or is that just me?`
`23:50.36`	`*** join/#asterisk DougRoyer (i=doug@70-67.69-92-cpe.cableone.net)`
`23:50.54`	alladin`	`trixter: cli stands for command line interface`
`23:51.15`	`trixter`	`not in assembly, especially ia32 asm, there it means clear interrupts`
`23:51.35`	alladin`	`nevermind.`
`23:51.37`	`trixter`	`why I think of it that way :)`
`23:52.23`	`*** join/#asterisk javar (n=javar@69.79.133.185)`
`23:52.29`	`tainted_`	`how do i forward 911 calls?'`
`23:52.51`	`tainted_`	`or do E911?`
`23:55.01`	`*** part/#asterisk dasenjo (n=dasenjo@63.245.87.62)`
`23:56.06`	`m160858`	`:(`
`23:59.33`	`Blackhold`	`hello`
`23:59.42`	`Blackhold`	`I'm looking for information`
`23:59.55`	`Blackhold`	`about VoIP`

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