| 00:00.04 | docelm0 | I build them from a distributor here in tampa |
| 00:00.15 | Sedorox | test34: eh? |
| 00:00.24 | SoloFlyer | ok its very hard to get a laptop without paying microsoft tax |
| 00:00.27 | SoloFlyer | :) |
| 00:00.32 | test34 | Sedorox, you dont need to buy a laptop with a windows license |
| 00:00.35 | docelm0 | I can from dell |
| 00:00.40 | docelm0 | with my business account |
| 00:00.44 | Sedorox | docelm0: not a laptop... |
| 00:00.47 | Sedorox | and even then |
| 00:00.51 | docelm0 | its a pain.. but I just bitch at them a bit |
| 00:00.52 | Sedorox | you have to show proof of a VLM |
| 00:00.54 | test34 | Sedorox, see http://tuxmobil.org/reseller.html |
| 00:00.58 | bsdfreak | heh |
| 00:00.59 | Sedorox | test34: well yea... |
| 00:01.02 | SoloFlyer | docelm0 i should try that |
| 00:01.13 | SoloFlyer | i asked politley they said no |
| 00:01.42 | Sedorox | but try to match my laptop :p P4 3.2 EE/HT, gig ram, 2 x60gig 7200 rpm drives, 17" wide lcd, tv tuner.. gig ram... etc... :p |
| 00:01.48 | docelm0 | I have a site license for MS shit.. But when I buy from Dell I buy so much I can get them custom ordered clear down to the HD |
| 00:02.18 | docelm0 | You got me on the screen.. Thats bout it. I got you on the ram |
| 00:02.32 | Sedorox | docelm0: my old school district just ordered desktops.... and we can get it with the freedos (The N series now...) |
| 00:02.35 | docelm0 | ohh and TV Tuner |
| 00:02.40 | Sedorox | but I haven't heard that for laptops |
| 00:02.46 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 00:02.51 | Sedorox | <-- sager NP8790 |
| 00:03.02 | Sedorox | altho it is kinda nice have a legal license for windows for once :p |
| 00:03.20 | docelm0 | I use my companies site license.. :) |
| 00:03.46 | Sedorox | technically I could use my school's too as it covers employees and students (and I'm now a employee.. so...) |
| 00:03.47 | docelm0 | I have Site for Office, XP, Server, Visio and a few other products |
| 00:03.59 | Sedorox | cool |
| 00:04.34 | docelm0 | We pay like 6000 a year to keep up to date.. but we also have like 80-100 computers between 3 countries |
| 00:05.00 | Sedorox | wow.... |
| 00:05.04 | Sedorox | I think we pay more then that... |
| 00:05.13 | Sedorox | then again we have 2000+ systems I think |
| 00:05.18 | docelm0 | hehe |
| 00:05.20 | Sedorox | between 4 buildings |
| 00:05.20 | Sedorox | :p |
| 00:05.27 | docelm0 | anywho.. food.. lata |
| 00:05.33 | SkramX | Any links to FREE MoH music? |
| 00:05.35 | *** join/#asterisk harryvv (n=none@S010600a0c93f6f7e.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 00:05.43 | SkramX | something a little more jumpy than classical.. |
| 00:06.45 | SoloFlyer | ooh i can get a microsoft tax refund :) |
| 00:07.56 | *** join/#asterisk rumba (n=ropawa@204.251.239.194) |
| 00:08.08 | *** part/#asterisk rumba (n=ropawa@204.251.239.194) |
| 00:14.23 | trixter | skramx: http://www.signate.com/moh.php |
| 00:14.48 | SkramX | http://freeplaymusic.com/search/download_file.php?id=287&dur=0&type=mp3 |
| 00:14.58 | SkramX | But they arent .mp3's when I try to wget |
| 00:16.21 | trixter | its an mp3 |
| 00:16.24 | trixter | just doesnt end in mp3 |
| 00:16.29 | trixter | trixter@trix:~$ file Like |
| 00:16.29 | trixter | Like: MP3 file with ID3 version 2.2.0 tag |
| 00:16.56 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@55.80-202-161.nextgentel.com) |
| 00:17.27 | SkramX | yeah. |
| 00:17.30 | SkramX | nevermind |
| 00:17.37 | LostFrog | Anyone want to give me two iax.conf snippits for connecting two * boxes? |
| 00:17.50 | SkramX | lol.. for our business pbx we will have funk music! |
| 00:17.57 | LostFrog | trixter: I like mp3info too. |
| 00:18.23 | harryvv | lost just put the register statment in the globals of either iax or sip.conf depending which you will be using. |
| 00:18.33 | LostFrog | I have., |
| 00:18.49 | LostFrog | I also tried putting in host= |
| 00:19.16 | harryvv | in sip or aix? |
| 00:19.26 | LostFrog | IAX |
| 00:19.35 | harryvv | k |
| 00:19.44 | harryvv | iax2 show registry on both boxes |
| 00:19.49 | harryvv | do that on cli |
| 00:20.57 | LostFrog | That doesn't show anything. |
| 00:21.07 | SkramX | VPSes funk # file * |
| 00:21.07 | SkramX | 1.mp3: MP3 file with ID3 version 2.2.0 tag |
| 00:21.07 | SkramX | 2.mp3: MP3 file with ID3 version 2.2.0 tag |
| 00:21.07 | SkramX | 3.mp3: MP3 file with ID3 version 2.2.0 tag |
| 00:21.07 | SkramX | 4.mp3: MP3 file with ID3 version 2.2.0 tag |
| 00:21.09 | LostFrog | iax2 show peers shows both ends. |
| 00:21.10 | SkramX | oops |
| 00:21.13 | SkramX | sorry yall. |
| 00:22.14 | LostFrog | Hmm. |
| 00:23.28 | harryvv | u have a fire wall between both boxes? |
| 00:23.34 | rue_mohr | I cant find any of the functions mentioned in the log entry |
| 00:23.45 | LostFrog | Yes, but they can ping each other.. they are across a VPN. |
| 00:24.57 | harryvv | I dont think registration requires 4569 open on the firewall |
| 00:25.01 | harryvv | but is it open? |
| 00:25.13 | LostFrog | They are VPNed together. |
| 00:25.17 | LostFrog | All ports are open. |
| 00:25.45 | harryvv | k |
| 00:25.55 | harryvv | anyone else have better advice? |
| 00:25.56 | *** part/#asterisk Utah_Dave (n=boucha@0-2pool130-200.nas28.salt-lake-city1.ut.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 00:26.21 | harryvv | what does the registry statment look like in globals? |
| 00:26.43 | LostFrog | One moment.. let me look at something. |
| 00:29.38 | marcus2 | anyone here have opinions on the 'best' sip phones for an office environment? |
| 00:29.54 | LostFrog | ok.. port 4569 is indeed accessible both ways. |
| 00:31.09 | harryvv | should show registrer => username:password@youriax2provider.com |
| 00:31.18 | harryvv | what ever your provider is |
| 00:32.05 | *** join/#asterisk MikeJ[Laptop] (n=ircatjer@d14-69-8-30.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 00:32.59 | LostFrog | http://pastebin.ca/32739 |
| 00:34.01 | SkramX | Dec 7 00:33:36 WARNING[20475]: interface.c:215 decodeMP3: Junk at the beginning of frame 49443302 |
| 00:34.26 | *** join/#asterisk alephcom (n=alephcom@207.34.97.130) |
| 00:35.02 | SkramX | ? |
| 00:35.05 | alephcom | Greetings Everyone |
| 00:35.20 | *** join/#asterisk truenorth (n=mark@ppp-216-106-103-5.storm.ca) |
| 00:35.39 | LostFrog | Hello, alephcom. |
| 00:35.45 | harryvv | lostfrog you forgot something |
| 00:36.06 | LostFrog | What did I forget? |
| 00:36.13 | harryvv | not that i dont think it might be a issue if the dns server does not pickup on it. |
| 00:36.15 | LostFrog | context? |
| 00:36.21 | harryvv | end your provider with .com |
| 00:36.23 | harryvv | yea |
| 00:36.42 | LostFrog | If I replace it with the IP, it still doesn't work. |
| 00:36.58 | SkramX | Anyone? |
| 00:37.24 | harryvv | whats the ip? |
| 00:37.34 | s34n | anybody have a working polycom 501? |
| 00:37.38 | LostFrog | 192.168.11.11 |
| 00:37.51 | knight_ | if you had to put multiple codecs ina single allow line, what deliminator do you use? |
| 00:37.51 | harryvv | india-fairfax |
| 00:38.00 | s34n | I have one that fails registration for some strange reason, but can still dial out |
| 00:38.29 | SkramX | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.29 | SkramX | Dec 7 00:34:48 WARNING[20766]: interface.c:215 decodeMP3: Junk at the beginning of frame 49443302 |
| 00:38.33 | SkramX | Any ideas? |
| 00:38.38 | harryvv | thats because that address cannot be resolved |
| 00:38.45 | LostFrog | ok.. it now shows up in 'iax2 show registry' on the far end. |
| 00:38.47 | harryvv | does that domain even exist? |
| 00:39.16 | harryvv | substitute the domain with the ip address on both machines. |
| 00:39.16 | LostFrog | Still.. "No authority found" |
| 00:39.31 | harryvv | are both machines remote to each other |
| 00:39.43 | *** join/#asterisk snewpy (n=markl@203-158-37-29.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 00:39.54 | s34n | chan_sip.c:10815 handle_request_register: Registration from '<sip:33@server.mine.com>' failed for 'phone.mine.com' - Username/auth name mismatch |
| 00:40.01 | knight_ | if you had to put multiple codecs in a single allow line, what deliminator do you use? |
| 00:40.09 | *** join/#asterisk trig_hm (i=jason@home.monkeypr0n.org) |
| 00:40.11 | LostFrog | What do you mean by remote? |
| 00:40.57 | harryvv | how can you have two domain names under the same ip address? |
| 00:41.13 | harryvv | phone.mine.com and server.mind.com are the same ip. |
| 00:41.35 | s34n | harryvv: ?? |
| 00:41.38 | harryvv | remote, means its not on the same network..routers in between |
| 00:42.07 | harryvv | s34n since when can you have two host names use the same ip? lostfrog has this case. |
| 00:42.18 | LostFrog | They are on different subnets. |
| 00:42.19 | s34n | harryvv: they are not the same ip |
| 00:42.40 | harryvv | i just dns both and got the same addresses |
| 00:42.48 | s34n | harryvv: oh. hang on |
| 00:43.37 | s34n | harryvv: you said, 'phone.mine.com and server.mind.com are the same ip.' |
| 00:43.48 | harryvv | when I dns both yes |
| 00:44.09 | harryvv | * Dns resolved phone.mine.com to 66.116.109.62 |
| 00:44.18 | harryvv | * Dns resolved server.mine.com to 66.116.109.62 |
| 00:44.42 | s34n | harryvv: you are responding to my post? |
| 00:44.56 | harryvv | pvt msg? |
| 00:48.27 | s34n | chan_sip.c:10815 handle_request_register: Registration from '<sip:33@my.server.ip>' failed for 'my.phone.ip' - Username/auth name mismatch |
| 00:48.54 | harryvv | its a mismatch |
| 00:49.04 | s34n | how can I fail registration and still dial out? |
| 00:49.20 | s34n | (and why does it fail registration?) |
| 00:50.51 | s34n | twisted? |
| 00:50.56 | CoaxD | Registration only applies to inbound calls |
| 00:51.09 | CoaxD | i.e. if you fail registration, you wont be able to receive calls from that host |
| 00:51.16 | CoaxD | dialout is completely different |
| 00:51.26 | *** join/#asterisk jcims (n=jcims@cpe-24-210-60-100.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 00:51.30 | trixter | I wonder why the FCC charges over $15k/year for access to the do not call registry |
| 00:51.35 | s34n | CoaxD: I can dial extensions on the * dial plan |
| 00:51.41 | harryvv | I just saw SERIANA this sunday..we had to keep piraters out of the threater but did not find any. Good movie. |
| 00:52.20 | jcims | quick question, if i want to make call files to support 'click to dial' from a CRM application, can i call from 'extension' to outside line, or do i need to know the channel that is setup for the sip phone at that extension? |
| 00:52.24 | s34n | CoaxD: It seems to be connected as an * extension |
| 00:52.25 | SkramX | Im going to have some porn start do my pbx prompts. |
| 00:52.28 | SkramX | LOL |
| 00:53.03 | *** join/#asterisk Zach^^ (n=Zachary@65.121.244.130) |
| 00:53.25 | Zach^^ | is there a module for webmin? |
| 00:53.49 | s34n | anybody have success with a polycom 501? |
| 00:54.14 | harryvv | 500-501 are nearly the same |
| 00:54.18 | alephcom | There is a module for webmin but it is not free. |
| 00:54.26 | harryvv | do u have a ftp server running? |
| 00:54.31 | alephcom | I forget who puts it out but you can find a link on www.webmin.com |
| 00:54.45 | Zach^^ | is there a configurator for asterisk? |
| 00:54.51 | SkramX | Zach^^: there is one, i think it was for pay though. |
| 00:55.03 | SkramX | Zach^^: Do you need help or just being lazy and resorting to WebMin? |
| 00:55.03 | *** join/#asterisk santiago (n=santiago@208.195.215.160) |
| 00:55.41 | Zach^^ | hehe well really just bein lazy... havent read the manual yet so dont know what files ineed to edit |
| 00:55.47 | alephcom | Hey, webmin is cool. I know I'm lazy but it saves remembering all the syntax sometimes. |
| 00:55.51 | alephcom | :-) |
| 00:57.09 | *** join/#asterisk santiago (n=santiago@208.195.215.160) |
| 00:57.24 | Zach^^ | what is a good voip to work with asterisk |
| 00:57.27 | SkramX | alephcom: yes.. but some people use it instead of console.. I think if anything it should be used as a compliment. |
| 00:57.42 | SkramX | Zach^^: a termination/did service or what? What are you looking for? |
| 00:58.08 | alephcom | Amen. That is scary when people only use it. Same with all asterisk gui's... Cool, but.... |
| 00:58.32 | *** part/#asterisk mog_work (n=mogorman@gateway.digium.com) |
| 00:58.34 | LostFrog | I don't understand why it's giving me 'No authority found' |
| 00:58.51 | Zach^^ | in and outbound calls... also will use 1-2 PSTN lines |
| 00:59.11 | Zach^^ | what is a good free gui? |
| 00:59.57 | knight_ | if you had to put multiple codecs in a single allow line, what deliminator do you use? will ; work? |
| 01:00.07 | harryvv | try it |
| 01:00.09 | knight_ | i have |
| 01:00.12 | SkramX | Zach^^: voip-info.org search: GUI |
| 01:00.14 | knight_ | seems to work |
| 01:00.20 | knight_ | but i'm not sure |
| 01:00.30 | *** join/#asterisk newmember (n=newmembe@S010600a0c93dce87.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 01:00.31 | SkramX | Zach^^: I would suggest learning or hiring someone who knows how to maintain a PBX rather than just using a GUI. |
| 01:00.45 | SkramX | But hey, there are plenty of people here tohelp for free aswell. |
| 01:01.06 | dokhench | zach^^: if your looking for just part time maint, guru.com works very well. |
| 01:01.36 | Zach^^ | i am trying to expand and learn pbx's etc |
| 01:02.30 | SkramX | Zach^^: Right on. |
| 01:03.01 | harryvv | SkramX ever try this? inject a playback in extentions of which long distance network your using. so say you normally use sixtel or voipjet it would say "welcome to voipjet" then make the call. Or it would say "welcom to qwest". makes it east to see if voipjet is down if it fails over to qwest |
| 01:03.19 | harryvv | ATT has done this. |
| 01:03.49 | SkramX | harryvv: Okay.. but what does this have to do with me? |
| 01:03.50 | SkramX | LOL. |
| 01:03.53 | SkramX | Uhmm.. OKay |
| 01:04.15 | Zach^^ | SkramX what voip service do you use with asterisk? |
| 01:04.17 | harryvv | nothing |
| 01:05.10 | SkramX | Zach^^: A couple |
| 01:05.20 | SkramX | I have a friend possibly getting a contract with Level3. |
| 01:05.31 | SkramX | I dont use asterisk too much for myself, but for my clients. |
| 01:05.33 | Zach^^ | SkramX what is a good cheap voip? |
| 01:05.45 | SkramX | I have used NuFone, voipjet, Iax.CC, Asterlink. |
| 01:06.08 | SkramX | I use asterlink for my inbound vanity 800 #.. I do not know how their outgoing is.. but they have pretty good support.; |
| 01:06.16 | SkramX | I heard voipjet is getting better aswell. |
| 01:06.36 | emrah | Hi there. Anyone knowes why I'm getting always the message "XXX not a sip domain" when a sip peer try to register with Asterisk? Sorry for my English |
| 01:06.44 | harryvv | yea im getting emails from voip jet on a regular basis |
| 01:06.58 | SkramX | harryvv: As do I. I put like 5 dollars in just to try. |
| 01:07.17 | SkramX | I was going to open a spoofing service, but have moved on. |
| 01:07.52 | knight_ | grrr, i wish iax2 debug showed what the attempted extension/context was when it reports "No such extension/context" on an inbound connection |
| 01:07.54 | emrah | Anyone has an idea? |
| 01:07.56 | *** join/#asterisk srivest (n=sergeriv@203-206-166-170.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 01:08.11 | Nugget | I have an idea. I think I'll open a bottle of wine. |
| 01:08.23 | SkramX | Nugget: That is always a good solution :) |
| 01:08.28 | tzanger | ooh good idea Nugget |
| 01:08.39 | emrah | When someone tries to register, I'm getting the message "... not a sip local domain" in my asterisk cli |
| 01:09.02 | dokhench | nugget: yes, good idea.. did the same about 15 mins ago here.. couldn't get a fire lit tho... wood was damp. |
| 01:09.24 | emrah | dokhench: Thanks for yesterday for Zaptel. It was a problem with the 1.2.0-beta1. |
| 01:09.43 | emrah | dokhench: I've compiled the 1.0.10 and it works pretty well |
| 01:09.56 | dokhench | emrah: np, sorry i couldn't help more.. boss was cracking the whip on me to get the te110p working correctly. |
| 01:10.16 | knight_ | oh well |
| 01:11.03 | *** join/#asterisk docE (n=docelmo@static-71-251-95-4.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:11.36 | docE | well that didnt do it.. Said it could find LABEL=/ (0,0) It said to set the correct root= flag.. |
| 01:11.42 | docE | ok Im confused.. anyone? |
| 01:12.01 | CoaxD | God damn stupid grub |
| 01:12.19 | CoaxD | docE: What is your root device called |
| 01:12.21 | docE | more or less |
| 01:12.34 | docE | you mean like hda? |
| 01:12.38 | CoaxD | docE: yes i mean like hda |
| 01:12.41 | CoaxD | is it /dev/hda? |
| 01:12.44 | dokhench | heh, grub is way smarter than lilo tho. |
| 01:12.46 | docE | yes |
| 01:12.55 | CoaxD | at the grub commandline, pass 'root=/dev/hda1 ro' |
| 01:12.56 | docE | should be.. hold on |
| 01:13.11 | emrah | Anyone may help me with my short problem about the local sip domain insip.conf? |
| 01:13.12 | SkramX | lol, #asterisk == #general-linux-help now too? |
| 01:13.17 | docE | hehe |
| 01:13.24 | CoaxD | guess so |
| 01:13.29 | docE | «CoaxD» how can I make this permanant? |
| 01:13.30 | SkramX | Whatever.. |
| 01:13.35 | dokhench | guess so. probably just a temporary tangent. |
| 01:13.42 | shido6 | I still dont remember who wanted the cisco 7960 for $210 |
| 01:13.43 | docE | yes just temp.. |
| 01:13.49 | shido6 | with AC adapter |
| 01:13.57 | emrah | I don't know how to use it, I was using Asterisk 1.0.x before and this paramters are new... Any idea? I'm always getting "... not a local sip domain" when someone attempt to register |
| 01:14.07 | Poincare | how can I check wich codec a call / channel is using? |
| 01:14.17 | docE | sip show channels |
| 01:14.37 | *** join/#asterisk milkyflava (n=milkyfla@20-156-237-24-mvl.ewc.gci.net) |
| 01:14.43 | milkyflava | hello |
| 01:14.43 | dokhench | if it's sip that is. |
| 01:14.49 | LostFrog | Damnit.. it was my dial statement. |
| 01:14.57 | LostFrog | IAX2 uris are not the same as SIP uris. |
| 01:14.58 | Poincare | docE: thanks! |
| 01:15.18 | docE | title CentOS (2.6.14) |
| 01:15.18 | docE | root (hd0,0) |
| 01:15.18 | docE | kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.14 ro root=/dev/hda1 ro LABEL=/ |
| 01:15.18 | docE | initrd /initrd-2.6.14.img |
| 01:15.31 | docE | this is what I have for grub to boot from.. does it look right? |
| 01:16.37 | emrah | Please, no one really has no idea about that? |
| 01:16.41 | *** join/#asterisk kFuQ (n=somedude@c-67-185-114-199.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 01:17.47 | Zach^^ | SkramX does voipjet have free incoming calls? |
| 01:18.02 | docE | I dont think VJ offers inbound period |
| 01:18.03 | SkramX | voipjet does not do incoming as far as I know. |
| 01:18.04 | Damin | docE: Hey.. You f**king f**ker! :) What the f**k is f**king up? |
| 01:18.10 | milkyflava | when adjusting the levels using ztmonitor do I want the levels to not go all the way to the end of the meter? |
| 01:18.15 | docE | ass |
| 01:18.21 | SkramX | docE: I'll try to help you.. please explain your problem? |
| 01:18.26 | docE | I am screwing with me kernel |
| 01:18.33 | Damin | docE: So far, no complaints from our customer that using PlainVoip for termination.. |
| 01:18.45 | Flauto | is there anyone using asterisk with jajah? |
| 01:18.53 | docE | huh? |
| 01:19.00 | Damin | docE: Of course, they don't much care to use DTMF w/ anyone! :) |
| 01:19.00 | dokhench | jajah? whazzat? |
| 01:19.07 | Flauto | www.jajah.com |
| 01:19.39 | Flauto | i was trying to use asterisk with skype |
| 01:19.47 | Flauto | but i came cross this jajah thing |
| 01:20.05 | Flauto | it seems that it can be a bridge in between skype and asterisk |
| 01:20.44 | Flauto | that thing is interesting |
| 01:20.58 | Damin | I think we should port Asterisk to this: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki |
| 01:20.58 | Flauto | but i have not figured out yet how to use it on asterisk |
| 01:22.00 | knight_ | 6607629024/6607 67.180.92.241 (D) 255.255.255.255 60856 UNREACHABLE |
| 01:22.04 | knight_ | grrr |
| 01:23.07 | milkyflava | I am having a helluva time trying to get Rx to go up and Tx to go down. I am adjusting the settings in my zapata.conf file but it doesn't seem to having any effect. |
| 01:23.16 | knight_ | i wonder why it's not reachable |
| 01:23.22 | knight_ | i thought IAX2 scaled nats |
| 01:24.00 | milkyflava | I have reloaded and rebooted but they don't seem to change and if they do change then they move in tiny increments |
| 01:24.20 | milkyflava | am I missing something? |
| 01:24.32 | milkyflava | This is with a TDM400P |
| 01:24.46 | *** join/#asterisk [hC] (n=hardcore@209.153.195.139) |
| 01:24.49 | dokhench | milkyflava: you doing this to try and fix an echo problem? |
| 01:24.50 | Damin | milkfyflav: Make the RX gain -256 and put the TX gain to 154 |
| 01:24.50 | *** join/#asterisk mitcheloc (i=user@204.8.143.106) |
| 01:24.52 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=aoulton@66.11.164.239) |
| 01:25.02 | milkyflava | yes I am |
| 01:25.20 | milkyflava | Damin: When I put them to high they no longer can connect a call |
| 01:25.35 | Damin | milyflava: That is because you haven't put them high enough! |
| 01:25.41 | dokhench | recompile zaptel and use the MG2 echo canceller. then do an fxotune on all the zap interfaces. leave rxgain and txgain alone until you absolutely have to mess with them. |
| 01:25.46 | mitcheloc | do any of you brilliant people know how to reset the password on a Cisco 7940? I can't get in, and had set the VLAN ID, so it won't get dhcp to download from my tftp server.... =/ |
| 01:25.51 | Damin | Yes.. MG2 is good stuff.. |
| 01:26.10 | milkyflava | dokhench: I have done that and am now at the point of ztmonitor |
| 01:26.14 | *** join/#asterisk colinm_ (n=colol@VDSL-130-13-8-235.PHNX.QWEST.NET) |
| 01:26.30 | docE | clap on.. clap off.. clap on, clap off the PBX! |
| 01:26.31 | Damin | mitcheloc: Serial port is your best option.. Or set the Vlan port on your switches temporarily to what it is supposed to be so you can boot the thing.. |
| 01:26.35 | milkyflava | I tried MG2 but it was worse than KB1 so I switched back |
| 01:26.57 | Flauto | do i have to compile zaptel make linux26 if i am using kernel 2.6? |
| 01:26.59 | mitcheloc | Damin: i don't have any switches that support vlan, and I didn't know you can serial port into cisco phones? |
| 01:27.05 | Flauto | or i can still use make |
| 01:27.14 | Damin | milkyfavabeans: Where is the echo coming from? What kind of card is it? |
| 01:27.37 | milkyflava | lol, it's a tdm400p the echo is on both sides of the call |
| 01:27.55 | milkyflava | 4 analog lines with 4 fxo modules |
| 01:28.32 | milkyflava | I am trying with a grandstream gxp-2000 and a snom 360 with the same results |
| 01:28.40 | Damin | milkyfavabeans: What do your interrrupts look like? |
| 01:29.13 | dokhench | ahhh, yeah, what does zttest report? |
| 01:29.31 | milkyflava | zttest? |
| 01:29.47 | dokhench | should be in the zaptel source dir after compiling. |
| 01:29.51 | milkyflava | cat /proc/interrupts will give me what I need to see if there is a problem, correct? |
| 01:30.15 | knight_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.17 | knight_ | grrrrrrrrrr |
| 01:30.18 | knight_ | hehe |
| 01:30.19 | milkyflava | it shows zaptel on interrupt 5 and not shared |
| 01:30.31 | knight_ | i wish i could see what context it's trying |
| 01:31.19 | milkyflava | what will zttest test? |
| 01:31.21 | dokhench | that'll only tell you if you have other cards/devs using the same interrupt. zttest will test you how many interrupts per sec it is handling( i think. i read somewhere that a few people doubted the results of it). |
| 01:32.25 | milkyflava | 99.975586% 99.975586% 99.975586% 99.975586% that is what it is showing when I run zttest, what is the norm? |
| 01:33.03 | *** part/#asterisk mitcheloc (i=user@204.8.143.106) |
| 01:33.07 | milkyflava | --- Results after 59 passes --- |
| 01:33.07 | milkyflava | Best: 99.987793 -- Worst: 99.633789 -- Average: 99.970000 |
| 01:33.17 | dokhench | i think 99.98 is the recommended.. i have an x206 that reports 99.975 across the board and no probs out of it. |
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| 01:33.45 | milkyflava | so is the .01 make a difference? |
| 01:34.08 | dokhench | i doubt it. but i didn't write the stuff. =) |
| 01:34.12 | milkyflava | lol |
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| 01:34.42 | milkyflava | you know its bad when your sweatin over .01% |
| 01:35.03 | milkyflava | so I am on the right path with the ztmonitor you think? |
| 01:35.37 | milkyflava | I read that when the Tx is too much that it causes like a feedback that gives the echo can a fit trying to quench |
| 01:35.56 | dokhench | well, .01 is 10 int out of 1000 so how much of a diff can it really make ya know? |
| 01:36.26 | milkyflava | yeah, ill figure its good and let it go |
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| 01:36.57 | dokhench | unless you're talking nerve gas or something. then .01 is prbably pretty friggin bad. |
| 01:37.53 | milkyflava | luckily its just software |
| 01:37.58 | dokhench | =) |
| 01:39.12 | milkyflava | so i am back to zttmonitor and getting the levels to move |
| 01:40.02 | milkyflava | when I change the echo canceller do I have to do a make clean make install for them to take effect? |
| 01:40.18 | dokhench | do them 10 in each direction and restart. if you don't see a movement something is borked. |
| 01:40.31 | mtgh | If I am going to call 040414316755 do I need a 011 first? |
| 01:40.51 | dokhench | i would just for completeness. then unload the current mods, reload the mods, restart ast. |
| 01:41.33 | milkyflava | ok, I had just been doing a shutdown restart to just to be safe after the make install |
| 01:42.02 | milkyflava | when I move them to high then they can't make a call |
| 01:42.08 | milkyflava | or too low |
| 01:42.20 | *** join/#asterisk Zach^^ (n=Zachary@65.121.244.130) |
| 01:42.33 | milkyflava | but when I start back at 1.0 they will make the call and the pgone on the other side will ring |
| 01:42.34 | Zach^^ | anyone use asteriskathome? |
| 01:43.27 | [TK]D-Fender | A@H = evil.... |
| 01:44.26 | milkyflava | dokhench: thanks for the help and the hints for things to make sure of I appreciate it |
| 01:47.27 | milkyflava | I have another question |
| 01:48.04 | milkyflava | I have 8 phones grandstream gxp-2000 and I have wired them all to one switch that the asterisk box is connected to |
| 01:48.53 | milkyflava | there is no other device connected to the switch other than the phones and the * server |
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| 01:49.51 | milkyflava | I have a TDM400P card with 4 analog lines there is no VoIP because there is no network connection only internal to PSTN and vice versa |
| 01:50.12 | milkyflava | should I be able to use the ulaw codec with no network problems? |
| 01:50.33 | [TK]D-Fender | sure, and its highly suggested |
| 01:50.42 | milkyflava | ok |
| 01:50.50 | [TK]D-Fender | internal LAN to * is almost never an issue |
| 01:51.18 | [TK]D-Fender | only if you are running PC's off a 2nd port on the phone and flood the daylights out of them |
| 01:51.53 | milkyflava | which I am not, I totally seperated the phone network from the pc network because of trying to fix the echo |
| 01:53.05 | [TK]D-Fender | milkyflava : The TDm card and zaptel echo cancellation are at fault. |
| 01:53.25 | milkyflava | Thats the conclusion I have come to |
| 01:53.39 | milkyflava | I think it might have to do with the TX and RX gains |
| 01:53.41 | [TK]D-Fender | They are plagued. Make sure you us "echocancellation=yes" and "echotraining=yes" in zapata |
| 01:53.48 | milkyflava | my Tx is off the chart |
| 01:53.55 | milkyflava | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:54.08 | milkyflava | I have echotraining=800 |
| 01:54.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Reducing the gains CAn help but thats an acoustic issue. |
| 01:54.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Start with Zaptel tuning. |
| 01:54.31 | milkyflava | fxotune.pl? |
| 01:54.46 | [TK]D-Fender | go from 800 to just "yes' for a bit. then try without (standard canceller) |
| 01:55.02 | [TK]D-Fender | don['t know about that script.... never used on before, always manual |
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| 01:55.30 | milkyflava | how do i do zaptel tuning manually? |
| 01:55.41 | Qwell | adjust your gains? |
| 01:55.45 | [TK]D-Fender | And then if tht doesn't help try and play with the gains bit by bit but you may find that it will become too weak to hear |
| 01:55.56 | [TK]D-Fender | meant more specifically ZAPATA |
| 01:56.15 | [TK]D-Fender | and then try the other cancellers (which require a recompile of Zaptel) |
| 01:56.31 | milkyflava | I have tried MG2 and went back to KB1 |
| 01:56.53 | milkyflava | I did recompile after each switch |
| 01:57.17 | Qwell | milkyflava: How are your gains right now? |
| 01:57.23 | milkyflava | horrible |
| 01:57.30 | milkyflava | rx is low and tx is way high |
| 01:57.30 | Qwell | fix those... |
| 01:57.35 | Qwell | how high is "way high"? |
| 01:57.40 | milkyflava | but I can't seem to get them to move up or down |
| 01:57.51 | Qwell | It's in your zap config |
| 01:57.57 | milkyflava | its bouncing off the left hand side |
| 01:58.14 | milkyflava | I have tried changing those and it doesn't seem to make a difference |
| 01:58.20 | milkyflava | er |
| 01:58.20 | tzanger | I can't believe people are saying MG2's not better than KB1... the changes are so minor and obviously correct |
| 01:58.24 | milkyflava | right hand side |
| 01:58.33 | Qwell | milkyflava: What are they at, and what have you tried? |
| 01:58.55 | milkyflava | I started at 1.0 for both and moved each of them by 1 |
| 01:59.02 | Qwell | move by .5 |
| 01:59.05 | milkyflava | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.12 | milkyflava | whys that? |
| 01:59.17 | Qwell | because 1 is a lot |
| 01:59.27 | Qwell | start at 0 even |
| 01:59.30 | milkyflava | I was wondering how much 1 actually was |
| 01:59.40 | milkyflava | I never found an answer to that |
| 01:59.49 | Qwell | and yeah, use MG2 |
| 01:59.57 | milkyflava | ok |
| 02:00.12 | dokhench | it's logrithmic. decibel. |
| 02:02.29 | dokhench | http://science.howstuffworks.com/question124.htm |
| 02:02.52 | milkyflava | I shouldn't be paying attention to the meter I should be paying attention to the numbers, correct? |
| 02:03.25 | milkyflava | when using zttmonitor |
| 02:03.46 | SoloFlyer | no meter is good |
| 02:03.56 | Qwell | ears are a good meter |
| 02:04.29 | SoloFlyer | atmonitor is better |
| 02:04.31 | SoloFlyer | lol |
| 02:04.40 | SoloFlyer | as you dont know how loud you are sending |
| 02:05.13 | milkyflava | what is the 1004hz test phone number? |
| 02:05.25 | Qwell | milkyflava: a number that sends 1004Hz |
| 02:05.28 | *** part/#asterisk SoloFlyer (n=SoloFlye@eth13515.sa.adsl.internode.on.net) |
| 02:05.50 | milkyflava | ok is there a way to mimic that |
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| 02:11.14 | drray | there is the milliwatt app |
| 02:11.49 | *** join/#asterisk yuvan_k (n=scowser8@219.95.78.33) |
| 02:13.05 | yuvan_k | hi guys, i was wondering whether it is possible to execute a soxmix command using asterisk manager |
| 02:13.19 | SkramX | appropriately named Milliwatt() I believe too :) |
| 02:13.38 | SkramX | yuvan_k: the manager port? |
| 02:13.43 | SkramX | like via telnet? |
| 02:14.11 | yuvan_k | skramx: i am currently using manager port |
| 02:14.20 | SkramX | via telnet, right |
| 02:14.28 | SkramX | I think you can issue system commands from it.. |
| 02:14.38 | SkramX | lemme look it up |
| 02:15.13 | yuvan_k | ok, thanks |
| 02:15.21 | SkramX | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+manager+API |
| 02:15.22 | SkramX | Maybe not |
| 02:15.24 | SkramX | one sec |
| 02:15.58 | SkramX | May I ask why you want to do it via the manager port as opposed to ssh or another interface? |
| 02:16.46 | jake1932 | ACTION: COMMAND |
| 02:16.54 | jake1932 | command: System |
| 02:16.58 | yuvan_k | skramx: right now, i am trying to write up develop my own interface on windows using asterisk manager |
| 02:17.18 | SkramX | jake1932: Yes. |
| 02:17.28 | SkramX | do "show manager commands" from cli.. do you see "System"? |
| 02:17.47 | yuvan_k | hold on...i will check it out |
| 02:17.52 | SkramX | yuvan_k: interesting.. I do not use the manager port too much but I will look a bit. |
| 02:19.16 | yuvan_k | thanks skramx, btw, i only get the manager api commands, no system commands. |
| 02:19.36 | jake1932 | show applications |
| 02:19.45 | jake1932 | hmm |
| 02:20.00 | jake1932 | actually "help" |
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| 02:20.40 | SkramX | do like ACTION: Command(System(....)) |
| 02:20.44 | SkramX | is that how the API works? |
| 02:20.51 | jake1932 | no |
| 02:20.59 | SkramX | Just use ACTION: Command and that will let you do a regular CLI command. |
| 02:20.59 | jake1932 | the format is 1 per line |
| 02:21.13 | yuvan_k | command executes the manager api commands, shown in "show manager commands" |
| 02:21.16 | SkramX | and from the CLI, you can do a System() or just do !<bash_command> |
| 02:21.43 | Qwell | you can't run all CLI commands from manager |
| 02:21.49 | yuvan_k | yeah...i was thinking of !<bash_command> too |
| 02:22.00 | *** join/#asterisk docelm0 (n=brian@static-71-251-95-3.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:22.03 | docelm0 | ARGH!!?!?!? |
| 02:22.12 | Qwell | being able to run system commands from manager would be a HUGE security flaw |
| 02:22.15 | docelm0 | ok officially I think I broke it! |
| 02:22.17 | SkramX | docelm0: whats your pronlem, |
| 02:22.27 | SkramX | Qwell: Indeed. |
| 02:22.32 | docelm0 | can't open an initial console |
| 02:22.36 | SkramX | *problem |
| 02:22.42 | docelm0 | udev issue I believe |
| 02:22.44 | SkramX | docelm0: for asterisk or linux? |
| 02:22.47 | docelm0 | linux |
| 02:22.48 | yuvan_k | but since i am a newbie...i was thinking there might be another way |
| 02:22.56 | SkramX | docelm0: oh boy.. |
| 02:22.58 | docelm0 | Im just venting.. |
| 02:22.58 | jake1932 | proabaly the easiest way is to redirect to an extensions with System |
| 02:23.05 | SkramX | meh |
| 02:23.06 | jake1932 | extension |
| 02:23.23 | jake1932 | i don't see System as a valid CLI cmd |
| 02:23.24 | docelm0 | brb.. KVM'n to another server |
| 02:24.16 | yuvan_k | btw, is it a bug in asterisk, that it doesn't perform soxmix automatically when i redirect an active call? |
| 02:24.36 | SkramX | jake1932: yeah.. its an extensions.conf command. |
| 02:24.46 | SkramX | Sorry. Uhmm, so just do ! from Action: Command |
| 02:24.54 | *** join/#asterisk killfill (n=killfill@pc-200-74-44-159.asturias2.pc.metropolis-inter.com) |
| 02:24.59 | yuvan_k | ok...will do, thanks |
| 02:25.04 | jake1932 | SkramX: u sure that'll work? |
| 02:25.12 | SkramX | I believe so. |
| 02:25.18 | killfill | hey, all the extensions on the flash operator panel are flashing.. what does this mean?.. i just notice it.. |
| 02:25.25 | killfill | i.e. red/green |
| 02:25.27 | SkramX | I dont do manager shyt as I said |
| 02:25.37 | yuvan_k | i'll just give it a go..if not, i will try the !<bash_command> and see how it goes |
| 02:25.41 | drray | it means that FOP can't reach asterisk, either it's down, or it can't log in |
| 02:25.51 | drray | does asterisk -r let you connect? |
| 02:25.54 | yuvan_k | skramx: haha, guess its only helpful for newbies |
| 02:26.02 | killfill | drray, where does it normally loeav logs?.. so i can see whats happening |
| 02:26.24 | jake1932 | yuvan_k: is this for active calls only? |
| 02:26.26 | killfill | drray, yuop, asterisk -r works |
| 02:26.48 | drray | killfill - ps aux | grep op |
| 02:26.54 | drray | is flash op still running? |
| 02:27.08 | killfill | asterisk 7619 0.2 1.3 8792 7112 ? S 23:22 0:00 /usr/bin/perl -w ./op_server.pl |
| 02:27.11 | killfill | yyup |
| 02:27.28 | drray | killfill - has this ever worked? |
| 02:27.39 | killfill | yes.. it woked |
| 02:27.47 | yuvan_k | jake1932: if i transfer a call before it is answered, then wave file is merged...but if i answer a call, then transfer it..i get -in.wav and -out.wav files |
| 02:28.09 | killfill | drray, ive try to connect to fwd and made some changes in extensions.conf and iax.conf.. but i have referse everytihn g |
| 02:28.35 | *** join/#asterisk Faithful (n=Faithful@202-6-145-116.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 02:28.36 | drray | restart op_server.pl? |
| 02:28.47 | killfill | ive just kill -1 it.. |
| 02:29.13 | docelm0 | I think I am saved....... |
| 02:29.45 | *** join/#asterisk killfill (n=killfill@pc-200-74-44-159.asturias2.pc.metropolis-inter.com) |
| 02:29.55 | killfill | ups.. |
| 02:29.55 | jake1932 | using which cmd to monitor? |
| 02:30.23 | jake1932 | Monitor cmd? |
| 02:30.25 | SkramX | http://asterfax.sourceforge.net/ interesting.. |
| 02:30.35 | killfill | jake1932, your asking me? |
| 02:30.39 | yuvan_k | jake1932: i just use redirect, the monitor is automated i think |
| 02:30.52 | killfill | ah.. |
| 02:31.27 | jake1932 | yuvan_k: if you add Monitor in the dialplan, it has options for seperate or combined files |
| 02:32.08 | yuvan_k | but how do i handle redirection on my dialplan? |
| 02:32.28 | jake1932 | Action: Redirect |
| 02:32.32 | jake1932 | (from manager) |
| 02:33.12 | yuvan_k | ok, so i just issue a redirect command, followed by monitor with an "m" flag and it should work? |
| 02:33.23 | jake1932 | umm - kina |
| 02:33.24 | jake1932 | kinda |
| 02:33.39 | jake1932 | the monitor app should be in your dialplan |
| 02:33.54 | jake1932 | Redirect to the exten, priority that has your monitor app |
| 02:34.20 | killfill | drray, what else can i checkl? |
| 02:34.25 | *** join/#asterisk docE (n=docelmo@static-71-251-95-4.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:34.47 | yuvan_k | i am actually using asterisk@home, and i've set the recording option to "always" on every extension, so all my calls are recorded automatically |
| 02:35.09 | jake1932 | you can impletemnt your own |
| 02:35.14 | jake1932 | implement |
| 02:35.36 | jake1932 | you want all your calls recorded? |
| 02:36.37 | yuvan_k | yeah...right now, everything works fine, except when i transfer an active call, -in and -out files are not merged |
| 02:37.18 | m160858 | excuse me |
| 02:37.20 | jake1932 | or use this: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Monitor+Cleanup |
| 02:37.27 | killfill | damn.. yah to show tomorrow the FOP, and its broken now.. :-/ |
| 02:37.33 | m160858 | i've 2 context |
| 02:37.59 | m160858 | and i try to test exten => _66.,1,Goto(outgoing-teliax-account) |
| 02:38.03 | m160858 | this correct? |
| 02:39.06 | yuvan_k | i was wondering whether this problem is caused by the limitation of asterisk manager api |
| 02:39.12 | jake1932 | yuvan_k: not sure about @home - maybe a bug. but, you can should be able to simply call monitor after the call starts with the proper options to record - don't need manager for thatl |
| 02:39.40 | yuvan_k | yeah...thats what i wanted to highlight as well, if it is a bug...how can i notify the others |
| 02:39.58 | yuvan_k | i can probably work my way around it, but its good to let others know as well |
| 02:40.11 | jake1932 | yuvan_k: if it's an * bug, mantis |
| 02:40.41 | jake1932 | yuvan_k: if it's @home only, go to the project on sourceforge - it has a bugs section |
| 02:41.00 | jake1932 | ~mantis |
| 02:41.01 | jbot | mantis is, like, at http://bugs.digium.com |
| 02:41.22 | yuvan_k | ok...thanks alot guys, u've been very helpful |
| 02:43.18 | jake1932 | m160858: no |
| 02:43.27 | jake1932 | here is the cmd usage: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+Goto |
| 02:44.11 | m160858 | ok, thanks |
| 02:44.36 | SkramX | ~cmd goto |
| 02:44.42 | SkramX | ~docs |
| 02:44.44 | jbot | rumour has it, docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com |
| 02:44.47 | SkramX | hmm okay |
| 02:47.24 | *** part/#asterisk jcims (n=jcims@cpe-24-210-60-100.columbus.res.rr.com) |
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| 02:48.43 | m160858 | i've this exten => _66.,1,Goto(outgoing-teliax-account, ${EXTEN}, 1) now |
| 02:48.54 | m160858 | but doesn't work |
| 02:49.01 | m160858 | i've 5 extensions |
| 02:49.04 | *** join/#asterisk Jesster (i=jesster@jesster.org) |
| 02:49.07 | m160858 | what can i do? |
| 02:50.00 | Jesster | Im using Asterisk+spandsp from the FreeBSD port and have discovered my FAXs have 1 vertical line running on the right margin all the way down. Any idea what's causing that? |
| 02:50.33 | robl^ | dirty fax machine sending the fax to asterisk? |
| 02:50.41 | jake1932 | m160858: what's the error? |
| 02:50.55 | m160858 | WARNING[7214]: pbx.c:2347 __ast_pbx_run: Channel 'SIP/2005-ae31' sent into invalid extension ' 6619784187300' in context 'outgoing-teliax-account', but no invalid handler |
| 02:51.06 | Jesster | robl^: the fax machine sends to other faxes on our network fine |
| 02:51.28 | knight_ | anyone experience problems with a ulaw based IAX2 extension connected into another asterisk box working with g729 out to an external voip provider? |
| 02:51.41 | jake1932 | m160858: looks like a space before your extension |
| 02:52.10 | knight_ | asterisk ulaw on IAX2 => asterisk g729 on IAX2 => provider |
| 02:52.17 | knight_ | i'm not hearing anything on the ulaw end |
| 02:52.21 | knight_ | but the calls are going through |
| 02:52.44 | Teeli | has anybody used fxo devices by eusso |
| 02:52.44 | Teeli | I get error 606 from it for SIP |
| 02:52.57 | m160858 | WARNING[7261]: pbx.c:2347 __ast_pbx_run: Channel 'SIP/2005-3575' sent into invalid extension '6619784187300' in context 'outgoing-teliax-account', but no invalid handler |
| 02:53.27 | file[laptop] | it can't get more obvious |
| 02:53.31 | jake1932 | lol |
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| 02:53.36 | SkramX | lol |
| 02:53.39 | m160858 | is correct ${EXTEN} |
| 02:53.41 | m160858 | ? |
| 02:54.37 | m160858 | i want to call .... if 66 before .. use teliax, if 67 before .. use broadvoice |
| 02:54.54 | ManxPower | m160858, 1) don't put in extra spaces. You are dialing 66 as a prefix, so you have to strip it off like in ${EXTEN:2} |
| 02:54.56 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 02:54.58 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com |
| 02:54.59 | ManxPower | ~mailinglist |
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| 02:55.34 | *** join/#asterisk MikeJ__ (n=ircatjer@d14-69-8-30.try.wideopenwest.com) |
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| 02:56.49 | milkyflava | if I use the fxotune.pl utility should I disable my rx/tx gains in my zapata.conf file? |
| 02:56.54 | *** join/#asterisk MikeJ[Laptop] (n=ircatjer@d14-69-8-30.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 02:57.35 | tainted_ | anyone familiar with ATAs? |
| 02:58.25 | tainted_ | i have two lines, an analog and a VoIP line... I want to have incoming from the analog line ring the phone, but outgoing calls go through voip |
| 02:58.45 | tainted_ | are there IP Phones / ATAs that can do this? |
| 02:58.49 | Qwell | tainted_: surely you know how to use contexts? |
| 02:58.51 | m160858 | yes, that's right |
| 02:58.54 | m160858 | thanks :) |
| 03:00.05 | Scratchrf | if i have an iax extension "24", is it normal for that device to show up in the console output as "IAX2/24@24/3"...I understand everything before the @ sign, but shouldn't it be "servername.com" after the @ sign? |
| 03:01.11 | Sedorox | its the device name |
| 03:01.18 | Sedorox | so if you have [24] in iax.conf |
| 03:01.23 | Qwell | Which extension ranges out of a 4 digit range would you guys not use? I assume 1xxx, 8xxx, 9xxx. Anything else? |
| 03:01.24 | Sedorox | then thats where its getting it from |
| 03:02.00 | Qwell | Sedorox: see the link earlier? |
| 03:02.00 | Qwell | Totally a printer. :P |
| 03:02.00 | tainted_ | Qwell there's no zaptel channel / asterisk box at the premises |
| 03:02.00 | Sedorox | :p |
| 03:02.00 | Sedorox | no.. actually |
| 03:02.03 | Sedorox | didn't catch it |
| 03:02.04 | Qwell | tainted_: oh, not using * at all? |
| 03:02.08 | tainted_ | nope |
| 03:02.13 | Qwell | http://visualbasicpro.com/Screenshot-MPlayer.png |
| 03:02.36 | Sedorox | but isn't that a phone hanging off the left side? |
| 03:02.39 | Qwell | there were two others, but I overwrote them...most certainly a printer though |
| 03:02.57 | Qwell | yeah, figured you might ask that...it actually isn't. You could see the left side a lot better on the second one |
| 03:03.20 | Sedorox | hmm ok |
| 03:03.26 | Sedorox | wasn't sure.. thought it was a fax |
| 03:03.29 | Qwell | lemme grab a better one :p |
| 03:03.41 | Sedorox | you don't have to :p |
| 03:03.43 | Sedorox | I believe you |
| 03:04.07 | Qwell | Just did :P |
| 03:05.17 | Qwell | refresh, heh |
| 03:05.21 | *** join/#asterisk SoloFlyer (n=soloflye@eth13515.sa.adsl.internode.on.net) |
| 03:05.32 | SoloFlyer | Hey Guys |
| 03:06.51 | tainted_ | Qwell looks like the Grandstream 486 has PSTN failover |
| 03:06.51 | SkramX | Hello. |
| 03:07.40 | harryvv | ohh is that new? |
| 03:08.48 | SkramX | I think I can call you wrong.. |
| 03:08.49 | SkramX | lol |
| 03:08.49 | SkramX | 2 RJ45 |
| 03:08.51 | SkramX | (LAN/WAN) |
| 03:08.54 | Jesster | Im using Asterisk+spandsp from the FreeBSD port and have discovered my FAXs have 1 vertical line running on the right margin all the way down. Any idea what's causing that? (I tried libtiff 3.5.7) |
| 03:09.24 | SkramX | 1 FXS, no FXO ports |
| 03:09.37 | Qwell | SkramX: probably not fxo, but a failover |
| 03:09.42 | Qwell | like the second port on the x100p |
| 03:09.55 | SkramX | http://voipstore.atacomm.com/shops/ViewItem.aspx/27934028032-41717385728.htm |
| 03:10.02 | Qwell | I've never seen one though, so... |
| 03:10.03 | tainted_ | sorry i meant 488 |
| 03:10.04 | SkramX | Okay, a failover RJ-45 |
| 03:10.17 | Qwell | tainted_: well, thats different :p |
| 03:10.26 | SkramX | Yes, the 488 has a FXO port. |
| 03:10.29 | SkramX | and one RJ-45 |
| 03:10.39 | tainted_ | is that the cheapest ATA with FXO port? |
| 03:11.03 | Qwell | It's the cheapest brand of anything |
| 03:11.17 | tainted_ | k |
| 03:11.26 | tainted_ | i'm going to repackage it in something big and heavy |
| 03:11.34 | tainted_ | make it look expensive |
| 03:11.40 | tainted_ | lol |
| 03:11.43 | Qwell | won't make it not suck |
| 03:11.54 | tainted_ | it's decent |
| 03:11.54 | SkramX | Who would buy from a company who sells something called "BudgetTone" |
| 03:11.55 | SkramX | hell. |
| 03:11.57 | Qwell | You'd spend more on the packaging, than a better device. |
| 03:11.59 | tainted_ | i have the 486.. |
| 03:12.14 | tainted_ | well which ATA w/ FXO would u guys recommend |
| 03:12.21 | Qwell | spa 3000? |
| 03:12.23 | twisted | SkramX, it's not called "BudgetTone" It's called "BudgeTone" |
| 03:12.29 | Qwell | my god man |
| 03:12.38 | Qwell | They were too cheap for the second T? |
| 03:12.43 | milkyflava | lol |
| 03:12.54 | twisted | i think they were being clevar. |
| 03:12.56 | twisted | er clever. |
| 03:13.02 | Qwell | clevar works |
| 03:14.18 | SkramX | Yeah, yeah |
| 03:14.42 | SkramX | I havent heard good things about Grandstream.. just my personal opinion and findings. |
| 03:14.44 | jake1932 | anyone familiar with canreinvite? |
| 03:15.14 | twisted | it's a config option |
| 03:15.28 | jake1932 | i'm a little further than that |
| 03:15.36 | twisted | :P |
| 03:16.19 | jake1932 | I have it set all over sip.conf and for some reason, calls from my provider don't use canreinvite, but calls to them do use it |
| 03:16.59 | jake1932 | I checked the sip debug and the calls that do use it have reinvite in the headers |
| 03:17.24 | jake1932 | which i expected - but doesn't say why |
| 03:19.57 | m160858 | i've a queues .. with context gpg-office ..ok? the same then if call with is 66 out for one provider and if is 67 out for other |
| 03:20.05 | m160858 | but show me up this error |
| 03:20.33 | m160858 | NOTICE[6878]: chan_iax2.c:7198 socket_read: Rejected connect attempt from XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX, request '310xxxxxxx@outgoing-teliax-account' does not exist |
| 03:20.53 | m160858 | why found that context? |
| 03:20.58 | m160858 | i don't understand |
| 03:21.08 | *** join/#asterisk sonic2wb (n=dsfas@cab7-12.compascable.net) |
| 03:21.50 | sonic2wb | Hello, Does Packet8 work with asterisk |
| 03:24.04 | *** join/#asterisk snewpy (n=markl@203-158-37-29.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 03:24.44 | sonic2wb | Hello, Does Packet8 work with asterisk? |
| 03:25.03 | jake1932 | yes with a TDM card |
| 03:25.51 | *** join/#asterisk FuriousGeorge (n=brian@ool-44c5a9b8.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:25.54 | FuriousGeorge | hi all |
| 03:26.22 | jake1932 | according to the mailing list, someone tried to connected directly and was nerly booted for it |
| 03:26.24 | jake1932 | nearly |
| 03:28.33 | m160858 | i've two contexts, one for the outgoing calls and other for the incoming calls |
| 03:29.01 | m160858 | the context for outgoing calls works ok |
| 03:29.50 | m160858 | but, the problem is on my incomming calls with the same extensions |
| 03:30.00 | m160858 | what can i do? .. |
| 03:31.01 | *** join/#asterisk SplasPood (n=jwb@brooklyn.paravolve.net) |
| 03:31.03 | m160858 | NOTICE[6878]: chan_iax2.c:7198 socket_read: Rejected connect attempt from XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX, request '310xxxxxxx@outgoing-teliax-account' does not exist |
| 03:31.53 | m160858 | if i call to my number, found the outgoing calls? |
| 03:32.00 | knight_ | any a2billing gurus around? |
| 03:32.44 | *** join/#asterisk bweschke (n=bweschke@pcp09754274pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) |
| 03:32.51 | m160858 | i dont understand 310xxxxxxx@outgoing-teliax-account |
| 03:33.04 | m160858 | somebody can help me? |
| 03:33.16 | knight_ | any way to have a2billing track my INBOUND minutes via my client's DIDs as well? |
| 03:33.24 | knight_ | not just outbound from their IAX accounts |
| 03:35.51 | *** join/#asterisk SplasPood (n=jwb@brooklyn.paravolve.net) |
| 03:36.58 | sonic2wb | so u cant use asterisk natively with packet8? |
| 03:37.45 | orlok | goddamn cisco's |
| 03:37.52 | orlok | "Application Protocol Invalid" |
| 03:37.54 | orlok | :-\ |
| 03:38.02 | alephcom | Knight_: I'm ssure it could be done but the process might be convoluted. Then again, I've not looked closely at a2billing for a while. |
| 03:39.51 | jake1932 | sonic: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=packet8+site%3Alists.digium.com |
| 03:40.12 | orlok | has anybody here upgraded 7960's? |
| 03:40.18 | jake1932 | yes |
| 03:40.41 | orlok | jake1932: whats the workaround for the application protocol invalid/ .tlv file thing? |
| 03:40.46 | Qwell | remove it |
| 03:41.05 | orlok | i dont have one |
| 03:41.16 | Qwell | You sure thats the problem? I doubt it is |
| 03:41.30 | orlok | any suggestions then? |
| 03:41.39 | Qwell | cisco has a faq |
| 03:42.10 | orlok | i've had it working since upgrading it to a sip image, now i plugged it into a different network, its getting its ip from the new dhcdp server, hitting the new tftp server. |
| 03:42.46 | jake1932 | does it still work with the old one? |
| 03:43.02 | *** join/#asterisk mog_home (n=mogorman@user-24-236-84-48.knology.net) |
| 03:43.36 | orlok | jake1932: havent actually plugged it back in |
| 03:43.52 | jake1932 | did you edit the files in Windows mode? |
| 03:44.05 | orlok | hell no |
| 03:44.23 | Qwell | I should move my home 7960 to sccp... |
| 03:44.42 | jake1932 | sccp works well in asterisk now? |
| 03:44.45 | Qwell | sure |
| 03:44.47 | ManxPower | Qwell, I didn't know you liked pain. |
| 03:44.58 | Qwell | ManxPower: chan_sccp works very well...tried it lately? |
| 03:45.09 | Qwell | the one from berlios.dfe |
| 03:45.09 | Qwell | de |
| 03:45.28 | Qwell | sccp is sexy |
| 03:45.32 | *** join/#asterisk mog_home (n=mogorman@user-24-236-84-48.knology.net) |
| 03:45.42 | jake1932 | i thought it was skinny |
| 03:45.48 | Qwell | it is |
| 03:45.53 | jake1932 | skinny and sexy |
| 03:45.56 | Qwell | skinny = hot |
| 03:45.57 | Qwell | :D |
| 03:46.01 | Qwell | okay, I didn't say that |
| 03:47.02 | ManxPower | kcrw.com has SO much great content for free, but wants to charge $3.95 per episode of "Says You!" |
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| 03:51.28 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: around? |
| 03:52.46 | knight_ | For iax.conf, can the parameter regexten be used to set inbound did routes? |
| 03:53.55 | sonic2wb | does anyone have a list of "known to work" voip providers for asterisk, im trying to find one with a local # for my area |
| 03:56.06 | tainted_ | sonic2wb what area code |
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| 03:57.34 | sonic2wb | 828 |
| 03:58.23 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: yep |
| 03:59.05 | knight_ | for example, if i do a regcontext=from-pstn regexten=15555555555, that wont work like an inbound route for a did does will it |
| 03:59.07 | knight_ | ? |
| 04:01.55 | sonic2wb | tainted: did u find anything |
| 04:02.35 | *** join/#asterisk eth0x (n=dcfletch@octane.lax.c2h2.net) |
| 04:03.13 | sonic2wb | hi mate |
| 04:03.15 | eth0x | sup |
| 04:03.59 | sonic2wb | still looking for local # |
| 04:04.26 | sonic2wb | is there a list of voip providers that works with asterisk |
| 04:04.28 | *** join/#asterisk Qwell (n=north@24-205-180-81.dhcp.wsco.ca.charter.com) |
| 04:05.39 | tainted_ | sonic2wb are u looking to go completely voip? |
| 04:05.42 | tainted_ | how many lines? |
| 04:06.14 | sonic2wb | 1 line is fine |
| 04:06.23 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: did you see where the function you added did a search in the database before looking in memory? |
| 04:06.26 | sonic2wb | yes i want to go completely |
| 04:06.33 | sonic2wb | voip |
| 04:06.44 | tainted_ | what's most important to you |
| 04:06.46 | tainted_ | 1) quality |
| 04:06.50 | tainted_ | 2) reliability |
| 04:06.52 | tainted_ | 3) price |
| 04:07.08 | *** join/#asterisk stkn_ (i=nobody@gentoo/developer/pdpc.active.stkn) |
| 04:07.13 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: yeah...I didn't add that part though. :D |
| 04:07.25 | Qwell | but, I'll try to change it, since it's used more than once now |
| 04:07.28 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: you added that function |
| 04:07.36 | Qwell | the function, yeah |
| 04:07.38 | sonic2wb | 2,3 |
| 04:07.43 | Corydon76-home | yeah |
| 04:07.45 | Qwell | I stole the entire function from elsewhere. join_queue I think |
| 04:08.18 | tainted_ | sonic2wb http://www.teliax.com, http://connect.voicepulse.com, http://www.broadvoice.com |
| 04:08.47 | tainted_ | sonic2wb stay completely away from voipjet, sixtel/iax.cc, nufone.net, and vonage |
| 04:09.03 | *** join/#asterisk alephcom (n=chatzill@207.34.97.130) |
| 04:09.13 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: not trying to be a dick or anything, so don't take it that way. In the future, if you're going to commit something like that, could you give a heads up note on the tracker? |
| 04:09.14 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: No, join_queue correctly searches memory first |
| 04:10.04 | Qwell | hmm, lemme look at how it used to be |
| 04:10.08 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: I'm trying to give you the opportunity to get the patch done correctly. If I didn't have commit priv's, I would have just recoded it correctly and been done with it |
| 04:10.10 | dokhench | why stay away from nufone? |
| 04:10.21 | sonic2wb | thanks for the help tainted |
| 04:10.39 | tainted_ | sonic2wb no problem |
| 04:10.41 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: actually, join_queue does look in RT first |
| 04:10.42 | h3x0r | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:10.42 | h3x0r | You can contact us via sales (at) NuFone (dot) net or 248-724-VoIP (248-724-8647 if you are blind/dumb) if you have any questions. |
| 04:10.42 | h3x0r | man |
| 04:10.56 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: not in 1.2 it doesn't |
| 04:10.57 | h3x0r | that is just so not the right thing to do on your main page |
| 04:10.58 | h3x0r | heh |
| 04:11.01 | alephcom | dokhench: I would not stay away from Nufone. I use them all the time. |
| 04:11.03 | Qwell | this is with a fresh update on head |
| 04:11.05 | Qwell | trunk |
| 04:11.13 | Qwell | r7373 |
| 04:11.18 | Corydon76-home | Okay, well, we need to fix that |
| 04:11.20 | Qwell | I'll look in 1.2 though. Branch or tag? |
| 04:11.31 | Corydon76-home | No, you're right. I missed that line |
| 04:11.33 | alephcom | dokhench: I've better call quality with them than with a number of other providers. |
| 04:11.53 | tainted_ | alephcom you haven't tried real providers then |
| 04:11.57 | Qwell | see, I'd like to fix it, but I don't want to change a bunch of existing functionality |
| 04:12.04 | dokhench | what made me consider nufone was the list on the dundi page. |
| 04:12.08 | Qwell | if I have to though...sure, no problem |
| 04:12.13 | Corydon76-home | There's no reason to do a query every time, when 99% of the time, the result is already in memory |
| 04:12.15 | tainted_ | alephcom what type of calls, from your living room to your bedroom? |
| 04:12.20 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: agreed |
| 04:12.26 | alephcom | tainted_: I didn't say than "all providers"..... lol |
| 04:12.28 | Corydon76-home | So don't change functionality; just change the code |
| 04:12.39 | alephcom | No, I don't phone from the living room to my bedroom |
| 04:13.05 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, I know, easier said than done |
| 04:13.07 | CoaxD | alephcom: You'd be surprised hwo many people are tickled pink when they can do that |
| 04:13.09 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: I've thought of a way to do it, but I'd have to iterate through the in-core list first. |
| 04:13.13 | *** join/#asterisk gambolputty (n=gambolpu@cblmdm72-240-242-4.buckeyecom.net) |
| 04:13.14 | Qwell | not sure that's the best way to do it though |
| 04:13.21 | gambolputty | hi |
| 04:13.25 | dokhench | heh, i phone from upstairs to the living room. i like my Bruce<1000> popping up on the analog phone. =) |
| 04:13.29 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: wanna take this to -bugs? |
| 04:13.29 | gambolputty | Is a reinvite possible with IAX alone? |
| 04:13.35 | alephcom | It's easier to walk. :-) |
| 04:13.37 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: sure |
| 04:14.16 | tainted_ | dokhench that's good. but go to a real provider when u route any calls out of the house |
| 04:14.31 | dokhench | tainted: yeah, i do. =) |
| 04:14.36 | alephcom | tainted: So who do you consider a real provider? |
| 04:15.03 | alephcom | other than pstn of course |
| 04:15.20 | dokhench | sonic2wb http://www.teliax.com, http://connect.voicepulse.com, http://www.broadvoice.com |
| 04:15.27 | Corydon76-home | Anybody who terminates calls across networks that you don't own is a real provider |
| 04:15.32 | tainted_ | u want my top notch recommendation? |
| 04:15.45 | alephcom | I do, actually |
| 04:15.49 | ManxPower | Wow! I just got notified that a bug that I filed like 2 years ago for phpGroupWare has been fixed. |
| 04:16.00 | Qwell | ManxPower: awesome |
| 04:16.10 | Corydon76-home | ManxPower: wow, they're on the ball |
| 04:16.10 | dokhench | that's some speedy response there. |
| 04:16.17 | tainted_ | if you are serious about uptime, quality, and customer service |
| 04:16.22 | tainted_ | http://www.junctionnetworks.com/ |
| 04:16.30 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: not seeing you in there |
| 04:16.31 | tainted_ | there's no comparison |
| 04:16.52 | Corydon76-home | I wonder if next they'll update the documentation to state that WWII is over... |
| 04:17.05 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: you're not seeing me on bugs? |
| 04:17.13 | Qwell | #asterisk-bugs? |
| 04:17.25 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: bugs.digium.com ? |
| 04:17.31 | Qwell | heh, I meant on irc |
| 04:17.32 | alephcom | I've heard elsewhere they are really good. For $0.029US I'd be better off just going straight onto the pstn. |
| 04:17.59 | Qwell | just didn't want to spam these guys in htere with this. realtime communication is good though |
| 04:18.07 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: I meant the site |
| 04:18.16 | alephcom | I guess Nufone is @ $0.02.. Hmm, I better go do some work on my box and get my LCR working again. |
| 04:18.21 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: I'm about to go to bed |
| 04:19.26 | Qwell | I'll have a patch up in a little bit here |
| 04:20.17 | Corydon76-home | Ah, I love living where I do... UPS ground out of Huntsville arrives next day... |
| 04:20.31 | Qwell | Where do you live? |
| 04:20.37 | Qwell | I get the same from newegg...that rocks |
| 04:20.44 | SkramX | Luckys |
| 04:21.18 | Corydon76-home | Nashville |
| 04:21.50 | Corydon76-home | And the reason that it arrives next day is that Nashville has one of the regional UPS sorting facilities |
| 04:27.20 | sbingner | alephcom: voipjet has .01? to US49 |
| 04:28.08 | dokhench | heard about badness from voipjet tho. |
| 04:28.30 | alephcom | I suppose I should look at them again..... I'm surviving where I am right now.... These guys service sucks but the quality is good for under $0.005. |
| 04:28.33 | Druken | price isn't always the be all to end all... |
| 04:28.47 | alephcom | It's a trade off thing |
| 04:29.00 | alephcom | I don't expect as much service for $0.005 as for $0.029 |
| 04:29.05 | znoG | umm, does anyone agree with that Doug guy? |
| 04:29.27 | alephcom | Who? |
| 04:29.41 | alephcom | sorry, missed it |
| 04:29.48 | Druken | alephcom: i do .04 and i guarentee it'll work :) |
| 04:29.48 | znoG | the thread started by digium people on success stories |
| 04:30.17 | alephcom | Druken: Cool!! :-) |
| 04:31.18 | sbingner | nufone's been pretty stable.. as has voicepulse for me |
| 04:32.16 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: new patch uploaded. |
| 04:32.52 | *** join/#asterisk rhousand (n=ryan@rrcs-24-199-246-10.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 04:33.01 | Qwell | I went ahead and made it unlock q->lock before it returned...it's not needed |
| 04:34.33 | Qwell | shit...that second to last part of the patch shouldn't be there. |
| 04:38.24 | sbingner | lol |
| 04:41.59 | asterboy | ok, who wants to sell me their TDM hardware? |
| 04:42.09 | dokhench | how much you wanna pay? ;) |
| 04:43.35 | asterboy | 1/2 of new sound reasonable? |
| 04:43.46 | Qwell | 2x new sounds more reasonable |
| 04:44.10 | dokhench | heh =) |
| 04:45.16 | asterboy | do I get a cigarette with that screw? |
| 04:45.19 | asterboy | :P |
| 04:45.36 | asterboy | Sure would love to find some S100Ms |
| 04:46.46 | dokhench | anyone had idle animation probs with poly 501s? |
| 04:46.50 | ManxPower | I filed that phpGW bug on Fri 04/09/04 |
| 04:46.56 | ManxPower | It was fixed today. |
| 04:47.14 | dokhench | so not quite 2 years.. getting there tho. |
| 04:48.28 | dokhench | that ulrta fast fix time makes me wanna rush out and install it all over again. =) been dinking with the whole drupal thing lately however. |
| 04:49.45 | *** part/#asterisk Scratchrf (n=scratchr@65-102-189-139.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 04:49.46 | asterboy | X100M |
| 04:49.56 | dokhench | S400M |
| 04:51.47 | dokhench | this is probably a really stupid question, but why isn't there privately owned PSAP competion? |
| 04:52.16 | dokhench | esp when voip creates the demand. |
| 04:52.36 | asterboy | Anyone selling a PowerMac 9600? |
| 04:53.22 | h3x0r | dokhench: because ss7 stuff costs too damn much money |
| 04:53.49 | h3x0r | and its too new of a requirement |
| 04:53.59 | *** join/#asterisk Uther_P (n=uther_p@66.180.120.82) |
| 04:54.04 | asterboy | not if you use ss7box |
| 04:54.11 | Uther_P | 3nt |
| 04:54.14 | h3x0r | ss7box isnt certified is it |
| 04:54.14 | asterboy | dokhench, http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=product_detail&category=hardware&product=X100M |
| 04:54.49 | h3x0r | i guess the stack might be, the part from whats their faces |
| 04:55.16 | dokhench | asterboy, http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=product_detail&category=hardware&product=S400M |
| 04:55.48 | asterboy | ah, for the TDM2400 |
| 04:55.57 | dokhench | yuppers. =) |
| 04:56.17 | asterboy | http://www.openss7.org/ |
| 04:56.36 | asterboy | http://www.ss7box.com/ |
| 04:57.40 | dokhench | wowza.. half a mil for licensing.. man that IS pricey. |
| 04:58.51 | h3x0r | der |
| 04:59.13 | h3x0r | thats like $0.35 for every US voip customer there is |
| 04:59.13 | h3x0r | heh |
| 05:01.31 | docE | Woo hoo! Got Kernel problems fixed! |
| 05:19.08 | *** join/#asterisk dogtanian (i=dogtania@eye.ham.zee.walroos.com) |
| 05:20.33 | *** join/#asterisk Koshatul (n=evangeli@ip157-65-132.cust.bit.net.au) |
| 05:23.29 | asterboy | what is half a mil for licensing? |
| 05:27.20 | Sedorox | ss7 |
| 05:27.21 | Sedorox | I think |
| 05:27.32 | tainted_ | what causes audio to cut out on a SIP channel? |
| 05:27.48 | tainted_ | the other person can hear me, but I cannot hear them |
| 05:30.35 | Uther_P | after sip establishes the call, the rtp media stream takes over, the first second or so you may hear.... most likely its because one of the two sides is behind a nat and it isn't translating properly |
| 05:32.00 | SoloFlyer | oh my god if it wasnt affecting us so badly that phone call would have funny as hell |
| 05:32.45 | SoloFlyer | ping times on our wan went from the normal 50ms to about 1000-1500ms |
| 05:33.11 | SoloFlyer | and we were only using about 10% of out avail bandwidth |
| 05:33.34 | Sedorox | hmmm |
| 05:34.03 | SoloFlyer | so i called the company responsible for our wan and said to the guy on the phone we have ping times of about 1 to 1 and a half seconds on our wan |
| 05:34.21 | SoloFlyer | he says back to me is that bad is it... |
| 05:34.29 | SoloFlyer | what should they be like |
| 05:34.52 | SoloFlyer | i say about 50-100ms |
| 05:35.01 | SoloFlyer | he says : oh ok... |
| 05:35.12 | Qwell | SoloFlyer: at least he didn't argue about bytes vs bits |
| 05:35.17 | SoloFlyer | lol |
| 05:35.30 | Ikarus | Gah, what Cisco tries to sell as a voice over IP gateway is just pathetic and the pricing |
| 05:35.34 | Uther_P | scary |
| 05:35.56 | Qwell | guy was trying to tell me there were 1028 bytes in a bit |
| 05:36.02 | Qwell | yes, I said 1028 |
| 05:36.08 | SoloFlyer | lol |
| 05:36.09 | Ikarus | Qwell: hehehe |
| 05:36.44 | SoloFlyer | you said bytes in a bit...? 1028 bytes in 1 bit? |
| 05:36.49 | Qwell | yes |
| 05:36.57 | SoloFlyer | HAHAHAHA doubble laugh |
| 05:37.00 | Qwell | yeah... |
| 05:37.06 | Sedorox | yay for bits being bigger!!!!!! |
| 05:37.13 | Sedorox | SoloFlyer: sounds like you might want a new wan company... |
| 05:37.15 | SoloFlyer | does he work for an isp |
| 05:37.17 | Sedorox | unless its a wireless link |
| 05:37.17 | Ikarus | Qwell: sounds like the people I am doing CCNA with, they know the terms, not the meaning |
| 05:37.19 | Qwell | SoloFlyer: Adelphia |
| 05:37.25 | Qwell | SoloFlyer: He was their fucking level 2 support |
| 05:37.27 | Sedorox | it should never be that high |
| 05:37.32 | Sedorox | I get lower pings to china :p |
| 05:37.44 | Sedorox | Ikarus: your in my ccna class?!?!?! :p |
| 05:37.50 | Sedorox | too many like that in my class too |
| 05:38.00 | Ikarus | SoloFlyer: with those high ping times, are you going by geosync ? |
| 05:38.02 | Qwell | every tech class is like that |
| 05:38.19 | Sedorox | my one professor |
| 05:38.24 | SoloFlyer | whatu mean the normal 50ms times or the 1500ms times? |
| 05:38.29 | Sedorox | was a freaking eye surgen in india... |
| 05:38.33 | Qwell | haha |
| 05:38.41 | Sedorox | ok.. how do you go from being that |
| 05:38.44 | Sedorox | to teaching networking |
| 05:38.45 | Sedorox | .... |
| 05:38.48 | Ikarus | SoloFlyer: 1500ms, actually geosync is about 500 to 600 ms delay (due to all kinds of stuff) |
| 05:38.50 | Qwell | Sedorox: it happens a lot |
| 05:38.53 | Sedorox | and apparently he's going for his medical here in the states |
| 05:39.03 | Sedorox | I just wanna scream.. WTF |
| 05:39.06 | Ikarus | Sedorox: erm, my teacher was a gym teacher |
| 05:39.06 | tainted_ | Uther_P does the RTP audio stream stay at one port or does it switch between ports? what's the best rememdy? a SIP friendly router? |
| 05:39.12 | Jesster | Im using Asterisk+spandsp from the FreeBSD port and have discovered my FAXs have 1 vertical line running on the right margin all the way down. Any idea what's causing that? (I tried libtiff 3.5.7) |
| 05:39.14 | Sedorox | Ikarus: ahah nice |
| 05:39.18 | *** part/#asterisk dogtanian (i=dogtania@eye.ham.zee.walroos.com) |
| 05:39.18 | Ikarus | Sedorox: he just slightly expanded his field of knowledge |
| 05:39.25 | SoloFlyer | ikarus no its adsl on both sites |
| 05:39.28 | Sedorox | lol |
| 05:39.29 | tainted_ | Uther_P I mean during the period of one call, does the RTP port change? |
| 05:39.33 | Ikarus | SoloFlyer: yes, but what is in between ? |
| 05:39.54 | Sedorox | anyway.. back to management work :( |
| 05:39.57 | Ikarus | Sedorox: actually CCNA is stupid, you are not allowed to learn what is in the "latest" RFC's |
| 05:39.57 | Qwell | eww |
| 05:40.03 | SoloFlyer | as far as i was aware fibre |
| 05:40.21 | SoloFlyer | but if they have problems it may fall back to geo |
| 05:40.30 | SoloFlyer | not sure |
| 05:40.32 | Sedorox | really?! |
| 05:40.33 | Sedorox | huh |
| 05:40.34 | Ikarus | SoloFlyer: well, ADSL consists of a local loop, going to a DSLAM, going onto ATM, going onto the ISP's network |
| 05:40.38 | Sedorox | haven't ran into that problem yet |
| 05:40.42 | Sedorox | then again I'm only on CCNA2 right now |
| 05:40.48 | Sedorox | 3&4 are next semester |
| 05:40.55 | SoloFlyer | point was 1im aware of that ikarus :) |
| 05:41.18 | Qwell | a whole year for ccna? |
| 05:41.18 | Qwell | damn |
| 05:41.23 | Sedorox | yea.. |
| 05:41.25 | Sedorox | apparently |
| 05:41.27 | SoloFlyer | sedorox i can photocopy my ccna cert... you will have to change the name but... :P |
| 05:41.30 | Sedorox | for a Cisco Academy |
| 05:41.43 | Sedorox | we're doing it the fastest way possible.. cisco won't let you go faster |
| 05:41.46 | Ikarus | Sedorox: according to CCNA you are not allowed to use /31 netmasks, while Cisco says you can't but they WROTE THE RFC on it |
| 05:41.48 | Sedorox | SoloFlyer: lol |
| 05:41.52 | Ikarus | I'm doing CCNA in 2 weeks |
| 05:42.01 | Sedorox | damn |
| 05:42.16 | SoloFlyer | cisco say alot of things |
| 05:42.19 | SoloFlyer | half of it is crap |
| 05:42.25 | Sedorox | well I did argue with my teacher (and past professors teaching subnetting) that you can use the first and the last subnet |
| 05:42.26 | Ikarus | SoloFlyer: nah, it is not that bad |
| 05:42.29 | Sedorox | but for class.. we can't |
| 05:42.32 | Sedorox | we have to omit them |
| 05:42.36 | SoloFlyer | yeah i know |
| 05:42.41 | Qwell | can't use them? |
| 05:42.42 | Ikarus | but the /31 stuff is silly |
| 05:42.46 | Qwell | like what, /31 and /1? |
| 05:42.47 | Sedorox | no |
| 05:42.51 | Sedorox | well... |
| 05:42.58 | Ikarus | Qwell: all 0's and all 1's host part is network and broadcast, in theory |
| 05:43.00 | SoloFlyer | ikarus i did ccna could i have first hand experience on the course |
| 05:43.01 | Sedorox | like if you have a /28 |
| 05:43.07 | Sedorox | Ikarus: no... |
| 05:43.08 | asterboy | that asternerds.com site is pretty handy. |
| 05:43.15 | Sedorox | not what I'm talking about |
| 05:43.20 | Ikarus | Sedorox: oh, sorry |
| 05:43.32 | Sedorox | if you have all the subnets... say.. 16 subnets total... |
| 05:43.42 | Sedorox | you can't use the first (.0-.8 for example) |
| 05:43.52 | Sedorox | and the last (.248-.255) |
| 05:43.53 | Qwell | umm |
| 05:43.59 | Qwell | and why the hell not? |
| 05:44.00 | Ikarus | Sedorox: erm |
| 05:44.01 | Sedorox | which.. as we all know.. you can |
| 05:44.11 | Ikarus | Sedorox: we are using them alot in the course I am taking |
| 05:44.13 | Sedorox | but for some reason in the cert class.. we have to omit it |
| 05:44.17 | SoloFlyer | its all technicalities though |
| 05:44.20 | asterboy | 1 ManxPower301"dom-server: you ARE doing a RELOAD at the Asterisk CLI, right?" |
| 05:44.26 | Sedorox | at one point you couldn't |
| 05:44.26 | Uther_P | the only ip's you shouldn't use are the block (first ip) and the broadcast (last ip) |
| 05:44.34 | Sedorox | I think its.. 1bit subnetting.... |
| 05:44.35 | Qwell | So, no such thing as a .0-.8 /28? |
| 05:44.36 | Qwell | and... |
| 05:44.38 | Sedorox | Uther_P: correct |
| 05:44.44 | Sedorox | Qwell: I know |
| 05:44.44 | Sedorox | :p |
| 05:44.46 | Sedorox | I'm just saying... |
| 05:44.46 | Qwell | no such thing as .0.x in a /24? |
| 05:45.00 | SoloFlyer | qwell there didnt used to be but when they relised they were running out of ips they change the specs :) |
| 05:45.00 | Qwell | and, no available IPs in a /1? |
| 05:45.06 | tainted_ | Uther_P what's the best remedy for the NAT / SIP issue? |
| 05:45.08 | Ikarus | Sedorox: erm, are you guys using the CCNA course material version 2.2 ? |
| 05:45.14 | Sedorox | nooooo |
| 05:45.15 | Sedorox | v3.1 |
| 05:45.30 | Uther_P | tainted_: bounce off a server that is outside, or configure one of them as nat and no reinvite |
| 05:45.37 | Ikarus | Sedorox: well, according to Cisco 2.2 is latest (For ICND atleast) |
| 05:45.43 | asterboy | Handy: http://www.asterisknerds.com/asterisk_stats.html |
| 05:45.46 | Sedorox | uhhhhhh |
| 05:45.47 | Ikarus | I didn't get the official material for CI-INTRO |
| 05:45.48 | Qwell | 3.1 is a fake! |
| 05:46.02 | Ikarus | Maybe the INTRO stuff is at 3.1 though |
| 05:46.03 | Sedorox | how come our material on cisco.netacad.net is v3.1? |
| 05:46.26 | Qwell | Sedorox: it's a knockoff. I bet it isn't even "Cisco", more like "Cicso" |
| 05:46.37 | Sedorox | lol |
| 05:46.46 | Qwell | like the fake Rolax |
| 05:46.50 | Sedorox | let me see here... |
| 05:46.52 | Uther_P | the smallest *routable* network is /29 (3 bits = 4 ips, block, gateway, broadcast and 1 useable ip) |
| 05:46.54 | asterboy | blitzrage always lets us know what he/she's doing: 14 actions! |
| 05:47.08 | Ikarus | Uther_P: erm, /30 works just fine |
| 05:47.09 | Sedorox | no |
| 05:47.12 | Sedorox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:47.12 | Ikarus | Sedorox: I don't know about the online stuff |
| 05:47.13 | Sedorox | p2p |
| 05:47.14 | Sedorox | :p |
| 05:47.14 | SoloFlyer | or like the fake linux knock off called unix |
| 05:47.17 | SoloFlyer | :) |
| 05:47.25 | Uther_P | Ikarus: if you are the gateway it works for you |
| 05:47.38 | Ikarus | Uther_P: no, /30 works on all IP stacks |
| 05:47.42 | *** join/#asterisk jahani (n=k@adsl-158-25-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) |
| 05:47.45 | *** join/#asterisk pigpen2 (n=mark@fw.seamans.cc) |
| 05:47.48 | Uther_P | where's it gonna route? |
| 05:47.50 | asterboy | linsys talks to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 5 times! |
| 05:47.53 | Ikarus | Sedorox: the latest print edition is 2.2 |
| 05:48.05 | Sedorox | taking screen shot.. hold on... (and no.. we have printed books :p) |
| 05:48.12 | asterboy | DrukenHME has quite a potty mouth. 1.3% words were foul language. |
| 05:48.28 | tainted_ | Uther_P the asterisk box is on public IP, both handsets are internal IP on different networks |
| 05:48.29 | Qwell | wow, I'm not on the foul language list? |
| 05:48.29 | Ikarus | Sedorox: then there is more then one set of course material |
| 05:48.45 | tainted_ | Uther_P both client definitions in sip.conf are canreinvite=no, nat=yes |
| 05:48.49 | *** join/#asterisk jahani2 (n=k@adsl-158-25-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) |
| 05:48.51 | Sedorox | here... |
| 05:49.00 | Uther_P | tainted_: turn off reinvites |
| 05:49.05 | Ikarus | Uther_P: okay, take this 10.0.0.0/30 10.0.0.0 is my network, 10.0.0.1 is my gateway, 10.0.0.2 is a host in the network and 10.0.0.3 is broadcast, don't see anything wrong there |
| 05:49.09 | asterboy | lol |
| 05:49.10 | Ikarus | it might be inefficient |
| 05:49.14 | Ikarus | but nothing wrong |
| 05:49.37 | Qwell | /30 is only 2 IPs, not 4 |
| 05:49.43 | Uther_P | Ikarus: cept you put 4 ips |
| 05:49.44 | Qwell | or something |
| 05:49.50 | Uther_P | 2 bits is 3 ip's |
| 05:50.03 | Qwell | 3? think it's 2 |
| 05:50.03 | Sedorox | its 4 IPs.. BUT... 2 are reversed for network and broadcasrt |
| 05:50.04 | Sedorox | :p |
| 05:50.08 | Qwell | Sedorox: on a /29 |
| 05:50.10 | tainted_ | Uther_P canreinvite = no already |
| 05:50.15 | Sedorox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.28 | Qwell | a /29 and /30 can't both have 4 IPs :P |
| 05:50.37 | Uther_P | tainted_: debug... dunno... shouldn't |
| 05:50.45 | Ikarus | Qwell: a /29 has 8 IP's 6 usable |
| 05:50.51 | SoloFlyer | i hate ingress policing in linux... Its way too hard |
| 05:50.58 | Uther_P | yea, I did my numbers wrong, 30 is 4 |
| 05:51.15 | Qwell | Uther_P: damn you |
| 05:51.15 | pigpen2 | anyone get metermaid working? |
| 05:51.17 | Sedorox | a /30 is 4 IPs.... .0 is network, 1 and 2 are routable... and 3 if broadcast |
| 05:52.07 | Qwell | then /31 is 2 IPs |
| 05:52.11 | SoloFlyer | yes |
| 05:52.17 | Sedorox | yes... |
| 05:52.18 | SoloFlyer | network and broadcast |
| 05:52.24 | SoloFlyer | nothing routable |
| 05:52.25 | Sedorox | no usable IPs in it |
| 05:52.40 | Uther_P | ip4 was a stupid idea anyway... I'll be happy when its replaced |
| 05:52.44 | SoloFlyer | although you can use the network address |
| 05:52.51 | Sedorox | :p |
| 05:52.53 | SoloFlyer | as a routable address |
| 05:52.56 | Sedorox | hmm |
| 05:53.00 | Qwell | eh, everybody knows that /32 is where it's at |
| 05:53.02 | Sedorox | well yea... |
| 05:53.09 | Sedorox | Qwell: ahahah |
| 05:53.13 | SoloFlyer | but dont tell cisco... they wil murder you |
| 05:53.17 | Qwell | completely valid in some cases |
| 05:53.20 | Uther_P | "we'll never run out!, lets sell off ip blocks in a minimum of 255 addresses" |
| 05:53.28 | Qwell | :P |
| 05:53.29 | Sedorox | granted.. ipv6 space |
| 05:53.30 | Sedorox | lol |
| 05:53.36 | Qwell | a /48? Is that all? |
| 05:53.42 | Ikarus | Sedorox: pfff, I have /32, aslong as 6BONE exists |
| 05:53.53 | Uther_P | although, they are giving away ipv6 addresses away in like... 18 million-billion ip blocks |
| 05:54.00 | Uther_P | I have a /64 ipv6 allocation |
| 05:54.02 | SoloFlyer | heh |
| 05:54.03 | Sedorox | until 6/6/06 |
| 05:54.03 | Sedorox | :p |
| 05:54.06 | Uther_P | I'll NEVER rfeakin use that |
| 05:54.20 | Sedorox | then 6bone dies |
| 05:54.24 | Qwell | ack |
| 05:54.26 | pigpen2 | Guess not. Anyway, google "metermaid asterisk" and think of the sip presence feature |
| 05:54.27 | Sedorox | but most providers should be renumbering soon |
| 05:54.36 | Sedorox | to production 2001:: space |
| 05:54.45 | Uther_P | someone needs to slap their asses in gear |
| 05:54.52 | Sedorox | lol |
| 05:55.06 | SoloFlyer | it will be funny if core internet routers stop routing ipv4 traffic |
| 05:55.06 | Sedorox | on occaid we renumbered... Feburary |
| 05:55.10 | Sedorox | '05 I believe |
| 05:55.13 | SoloFlyer | people will change then :) |
| 05:55.18 | Sedorox | SoloFlyer: won't happen :p |
| 05:55.22 | SoloFlyer | yeah |
| 05:55.23 | Qwell | it could |
| 05:55.24 | SoloFlyer | i know |
| 05:55.26 | Sedorox | v4 will be around for a long time.... |
| 05:55.27 | Qwell | with a big enough vuln :D |
| 05:55.32 | Sedorox | it could.. but I don't think in our life time |
| 05:55.33 | Uther_P | its not like we couldn't have gotten along with ipv4 + nat... 'cept that companies like sbc who have full class b networks refuse to convert and give up their public addresses that are firewalled and will never get out the the internet anyway |
| 05:55.43 | Ikarus | Sedorox: I am currently a 6BONE node via tunneling, so I would have to request my own new block if I wanted to renumber |
| 05:55.48 | Uther_P | er class A I mean |
| 05:55.48 | *** join/#asterisk Los415 (n=los415@c-24-126-63-65.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:55.55 | Qwell | my work has several class Bs... |
| 05:56.01 | Sedorox | Ikarus: ah |
| 05:56.03 | Uther_P | slap them |
| 05:56.04 | Qwell | we recently switched to 10.x for internal |
| 05:56.07 | Sedorox | you mean goto arin and such? |
| 05:56.10 | Qwell | we won't be giving those Bs back |
| 05:56.14 | Uther_P | Ikarus: hurricane electric? |
| 05:56.14 | Sedorox | lol |
| 05:56.25 | Qwell | pre-arin allocations |
| 05:56.25 | orlok | my brother has a class c |
| 05:56.28 | orlok | bastard :-( |
| 05:56.37 | Sedorox | my school has 1x/21, 1x/22 and 2x/23 |
| 05:56.39 | Ikarus | Sedorox: RIPE, yep, but I won't bother, switching ISP's to an IPv6 capable one, where you automaticly get a /60 and a /48 on request |
| 05:56.49 | Sedorox | and I know we use a good portion of it |
| 05:56.58 | Sedorox | Ikarus: cool |
| 05:56.58 | Qwell | we used a huge portion of our Bs |
| 05:57.07 | Qwell | 190k employees...atms, etc |
| 05:57.13 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 05:57.13 | Ikarus | Uther_P: no, older stuff, IPv6 in IPv4 tunnels to a bunch of different ISP's and I'm running BGP for that |
| 05:57.28 | Sedorox | yay for bgp! |
| 05:57.32 | Sedorox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.32 | SoloFlyer | lol |
| 05:57.37 | Sedorox | (yes.. private inside occaid) |
| 05:57.47 | Sedorox | it was funnny |
| 05:57.52 | Sedorox | we had a cisco trip about a month ago |
| 05:57.59 | Uther_P | Ikarus: yea, I'm doin ipv6<->ipv4 tunneling to hurricane electric |
| 05:58.07 | Sedorox | the 3&4 kids were complaining about how hard bgp was |
| 05:58.09 | Sedorox | I just laughed |
| 05:58.11 | Sedorox | I think its easy |
| 05:58.15 | Sedorox | for the most part |
| 05:58.25 | Sedorox | route-maps on the other hand.. can be tricky |
| 05:58.50 | Uther_P | anyone know when the last rfc was written for ipv6? |
| 05:58.55 | SoloFlyer | ccna was easy.. just needs lots of reading |
| 05:58.58 | Sedorox | dunno... |
| 05:59.08 | Sedorox | my eventual goal is CCIE.. |
| 05:59.13 | Sedorox | but I don't think I'm gonna manage it... |
| 05:59.16 | jake1932 | has anyone found a reliable way to do auto-failover w different VOIP providers (outbound) |
| 05:59.17 | Ikarus | Hmmmm, AS46035 here |
| 05:59.17 | Sedorox | definatly want NP tho |
| 05:59.24 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 05:59.26 | Sedorox | public as :) |
| 05:59.50 | Ikarus | yep |
| 06:00.22 | jake1932 | for instance, can asterisk tell is there is no ringing after 4 seconds and move to the next provider in line? |
| 06:00.37 | tainted_ | has anyone hosted voip off cogent fiber? |
| 06:00.50 | Sedorox | I'm sure there are a few companies |
| 06:01.00 | jake1932 | tainted_: i think asterlink is |
| 06:01.00 | Sedorox | with as cheap as their pipes are... |
| 06:01.03 | tainted_ | wondering if the latency is acceptable |
| 06:01.11 | Sedorox | don't see why it wouldn't be... |
| 06:01.13 | Sedorox | cogent's ok |
| 06:01.26 | tainted_ | cogent is porn/spam pipe |
| 06:01.35 | Sedorox | ahahaha |
| 06:01.37 | Qwell | porn/spam/voip |
| 06:01.40 | Qwell | no big difference |
| 06:01.50 | tainted_ | true |
| 06:01.51 | Sedorox | lol |
| 06:01.53 | jake1932 | sure there is |
| 06:01.59 | Sedorox | all can be used for the same purpose :p |
| 06:02.02 | jake1932 | pron goes over port 80 tcp |
| 06:02.06 | tainted_ | if your voip is 1976 |
| 06:02.10 | Qwell | spam over 25 |
| 06:02.13 | Qwell | voip over 5060 |
| 06:02.16 | jake1932 | right |
| 06:02.27 | tainted_ | yea but voip has higher qos requirements |
| 06:02.44 | Sedorox | hehehe |
| 06:02.52 | Sedorox | so does 80 |
| 06:02.55 | Sedorox | I want it quick! |
| 06:02.56 | Sedorox | :p |
| 06:02.57 | Qwell | no kidding |
| 06:03.28 | Sedorox | hehehe |
| 06:03.30 | Sedorox | O:-) |
| 06:04.18 | SoloFlyer | set your webbrowser to use source port 5060.. non statefull qos box will put you nice and high :) quick porn :) |
| 06:04.34 | Sedorox | lol |
| 06:04.39 | Qwell | Then you have to compete with the voip traffic |
| 06:04.40 | Ikarus | Sedorox: or you do QoS per switchport using 802.1x |
| 06:04.41 | Qwell | screw that |
| 06:05.08 | SoloFlyer | but you wont be able to download as fast you are better off on |
| 06:05.18 | SoloFlyer | short queues |
| 06:05.32 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 06:05.35 | SoloFlyer | better off on port 80 |
| 06:05.46 | SoloFlyer | with its huge queues |
| 06:06.02 | Sedorox | lol |
| 06:06.16 | Sedorox | hopefully when I'm done here I'll have 2 B.S.'s and a Assoc |
| 06:06.20 | Sedorox | will be nice... |
| 06:06.25 | Sedorox | the assoc is cisco ccna |
| 06:06.28 | Sedorox | so.. 'tis easy |
| 06:08.30 | Sedorox | still want to get into switching and qos and all that... |
| 06:08.47 | jake1932 | is failover just a matter of putting dial statements in priority 1,2,3,etc? |
| 06:08.47 | SoloFlyer | i love qos |
| 06:08.48 | Sedorox | only got a old ass 2808 for me and my roomate to play with in our room |
| 06:09.05 | Sedorox | I want a 3750 :p |
| 06:09.10 | jake1932 | or is there a better way? |
| 06:09.30 | Qwell | jake1932: you want to figure out why the call was ended. |
| 06:09.38 | Sedorox | jake1932: kinda.. you also have to set the timeout on certain options to (like dial...) |
| 06:09.40 | Qwell | if it ended successful, you don't want to dial again |
| 06:09.45 | jake1932 | right |
| 06:09.57 | SoloFlyer | egress shaping on linux == easy and fun |
| 06:09.59 | Qwell | tip ${DIALSTATUS} |
| 06:10.07 | SoloFlyer | ingress shaping on line == masochisitc |
| 06:10.21 | SoloFlyer | line = linux |
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| 06:10.56 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 06:11.04 | Sedorox | haven't done much networking stuff on linux |
| 06:11.06 | jake1932 | right |
| 06:11.14 | Sedorox | besides setup a iptables ruleset for our pbx |
| 06:11.19 | Sedorox | I mainly use fbsd for network shit |
| 06:11.24 | Nugget | I couldn't be happier with altq on my firewall. |
| 06:11.39 | Nugget | It does an excellent job prioritizing inbound and outbound traffic |
| 06:12.08 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 06:12.16 | jake1932 | has there been any progress on progress detection on VOIP - ie. if the outbound number isn't ringing after a few seconds, something is wrong, and failover to next provider |
| 06:12.43 | Sedorox | thats the nice thing about the pbx setup I have right now.. dedicated colo... and the only other things running on it are access over a different NIC.. so the one nic is really just voip.. unless there is small ssh traffic |
| 06:12.51 | Sedorox | but I normally use v6.. which is on the other nic |
| 06:13.23 | jake1932 | seems like this would be trivial if it were not already implemented |
| 06:14.00 | SoloFlyer | sedorox that is until you decide to scp a linux iso to the asterisk box :) |
| 06:14.19 | Qwell | scp does v6 |
| 06:14.42 | Sedorox | lol |
| 06:14.47 | Sedorox | yea.. it does.. |
| 06:14.57 | Sedorox | most of my remote stuff I do over v6.. so.. |
| 06:15.00 | Sedorox | I dunno about the other guy |
| 06:15.05 | Sedorox | I think he does v6 to now also |
| 06:15.11 | Sedorox | oh.. and DNS.. |
| 06:15.15 | Sedorox | 'tis our second dns server |
| 06:15.21 | Sedorox | but really..... dns.. doesn't take up that uch :p |
| 06:15.29 | SoloFlyer | unless there is small ssh traffic <-- in other words no ssh trafic its al v6 |
| 06:15.52 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 06:16.06 | Nugget | I love that openssh is smart enough to flag non-interactive traffic like scp and sftp as bulk, so that it's easy to push it down into the lowest queue |
| 06:16.15 | Sedorox | for me.. and the other guy.. we use v6.. the second nic.. so.. and I don't think anything is really using the dns.. think its setup as a standby hot kinda thing |
| 06:16.30 | Nugget | it's nice that you can shape scp down into oblivion without slowing down your shell sessions which you would normally want to prioritize |
| 06:16.45 | SoloFlyer | yeah that how i have my qos on wan setup its COOL |
| 06:16.51 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 06:17.32 | SoloFlyer | but even if it didnt you can still catch it using packet size |
| 06:17.49 | SoloFlyer | scp uses huge packets in comparison to ssh |
| 06:18.22 | SoloFlyer | but its still cool |
| 06:20.01 | Sedorox | I think I might have the voip traffice prioritized.. not sure tho :p |
| 06:20.11 | Sedorox | followed whatever Gentoo said to do about it.. and then added my own stuff |
| 06:20.36 | Nugget | I did it the lazy way. any udp to and from the asterisk box is voip. :) |
| 06:20.38 | Sedorox | DSCP match 0x28 udp dpt:5060 |
| 06:20.44 | SoloFlyer | lol |
| 06:21.02 | Sedorox | our box... only voip and dns is open to the world |
| 06:21.14 | Sedorox | then my school Ips, home IP, and the other dudes IP are open |
| 06:21.21 | Sedorox | everything else besides that is denied |
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| 06:23.07 | Sedorox | Chain INPUT (policy DROP 36 packets, 2739 bytes) |
| 06:23.08 | Sedorox | huh |
| 06:24.58 | Qwell | tunnel it |
| 06:25.06 | Sedorox | eh |
| 06:25.20 | Sedorox | don't feel like adding more overhead then there already is |
| 06:25.29 | Sedorox | <--- Pennsylvania USA... |
| 06:25.39 | Sedorox | Voip box -----> West Side of Canada |
| 06:25.44 | Qwell | umm |
| 06:26.03 | Qwell | excessive |
| 06:26.04 | Sedorox | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 100.448/102.272/104.783/1.398 ms |
| 06:26.06 | Sedorox | its not that bad |
| 06:27.32 | Sedorox | granted we use g729 too.. so its not bad at all..... |
| 06:27.51 | jake1932 | this is whatI was talking about: http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=2631 but am I correct in nothing was done? |
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| 06:30.02 | Sedorox | still need to fix some MoH problems tho... allwell... |
| 06:30.20 | Sedorox | er |
| 06:30.23 | Sedorox | s/box/work/ |
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| 07:24.22 | koperniqs | hi. I want to set up a loadbalance Asterisk setup with 2 servers. any idea how this can be done? |
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| 07:27.26 | Qwell | koperniqs: There are a few things on the wiki about it |
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| 07:34.15 | magic_1 | lo all |
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| 07:39.49 | magic_1 | hi there all i was wondering if there is someone here that will beable to help me setup an extention in asterisk 1.2 .i am using my asterisk box as a sip system.i have read the various blogs and so forth and am still busy with it however i could really use some help ,this would be greatly appreciated ,thank u very much |
| 07:41.27 | koperniqs | Quell: forgot to mention if its possible without extra hardware |
| 07:42.28 | loud | ~docs |
| 07:42.29 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com |
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| 07:42.50 | loud | the cheap way would be round robin dns, or priorities with carriers, 1,2,3 etc. |
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| 07:53.11 | Muhib | a |
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| 08:14.41 | kletter-matze | morning |
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| 08:15.33 | kletter-matze | yesterday evening I did a asterisk update to 1.2...since this I get many WARNINGS like this. chan_zap.c:2450 pri_find_dchan: No D-channels available! chan_zap.c:6527 handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 7: Red Alarm and so on... |
| 08:16.03 | kletter-matze | the used card is a quadbri |
| 08:17.24 | kletter-matze | but it seems that everything is working fine...I can call outside and also recieve calls...so what could it be? |
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| 08:25.28 | nextime | anyone using pyastre? |
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| 08:33.16 | syle | doubt it |
| 08:33.27 | syle | think most people use perl or c |
| 08:35.10 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 08:35.32 | tengulre | anybody active? |
| 08:36.01 | syle | mentally or physically? |
| 08:36.05 | tengulre | how to order the digium card? and does is support chinese telecom? |
| 08:36.44 | syle | china are E1 lines? |
| 08:38.24 | tengulre | syle: yes ! E1. or analog |
| 08:39.02 | syle | http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=product_category&category=hardware |
| 08:39.24 | syle | pick your flavor |
| 08:41.16 | tengulre | how many max ports by support in a single card? |
| 08:41.30 | syle | read that page, quad = 4 |
| 08:41.32 | tengulre | s/support/supported |
| 08:42.02 | syle | i am not sure how many lines in an E1 |
| 08:42.05 | syle | 26? |
| 08:42.20 | tengulre | syle: 32 |
| 08:42.30 | syle | 32*4 on a single card |
| 08:43.02 | syle | quad card |
| 08:43.16 | syle | i feel ripped off we only get 23 |
| 08:43.35 | syle | well 24 but 23+1 for data signalling |
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| 08:44.10 | Qwell | Thats 32 in metric though |
| 08:45.34 | syle | how much does an E1 run in US dollars? |
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| 08:47.12 | syle | for pricing that is |
| 08:47.36 | tengulre | syle: ? |
| 08:48.01 | tengulre | syle: are you working in digium corp.? |
| 08:48.05 | syle | how much does carrier charge you for an E1 line |
| 08:48.12 | syle | me no |
| 08:48.29 | tengulre | syle: are you use digium cards? |
| 08:48.33 | syle | there is also sagonam or whatever their called |
| 08:48.52 | syle | me yes |
| 08:49.00 | tengulre | which card? |
| 08:49.23 | syle | i;ve played with the TDM400P analog and the TE110P digital |
| 08:50.10 | tengulre | syle: are you building call center with their card? |
| 08:50.24 | syle | i was just running channel bank off the digital card |
| 08:50.36 | tengulre | Cool!! :) |
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| 08:51.30 | tengulre | are you use debian linux or others? |
| 08:51.45 | syle | running callcenters no, i know how just not interested: this is what i am working on : http://software.sunsaturn.com |
| 08:52.10 | syle | i use redhat and fedora personally |
| 08:52.53 | syle | i've just always enjoyed /etc/sysconfig style network scripts, doesn;t matter what version of linux |
| 08:54.57 | tengulre | very nice !! I point your web site! :) |
| 08:55.59 | syle | sure thing |
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| 09:04.10 | tengulre11 | hi,all |
| 09:04.52 | tengulre11 | hi,syle! |
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| 09:10.27 | testmach1ne | hmz |
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| 09:12.57 | yuvan_k | hi guys, i've been trying to do this the whole day...is it possible to send a system command, such as "ls" tot the server using AsteriskManager? |
| 09:13.25 | Qwell | no |
| 09:13.41 | Qwell | from the cli, do "show manager commands" |
| 09:14.13 | Qwell | perhaps with command, but... |
| 09:14.15 | Qwell | VERY unsafe |
| 09:14.38 | yuvan_k | from the cli, !ls works fine, but i don't understand why it doesn't work with manager |
| 09:14.47 | yuvan_k | i am actually trying to send a soxmix command |
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| 09:17.31 | glock | Im having some issues with a zap group. I have in zapata.conf group=1 channel=>1-2 . When i try dial it, im calling Zap/g1/ and im getting Unable to create channel of type 'g1' (cause 66 - Channel not implemented) |
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| 09:29.03 | glock | any ideas? |
| 09:29.06 | yuvan_k | Qwell: in what aspects is it unsafe to use Manager action: Command to execute !ls? |
| 09:30.22 | Qwell | yuvan_k: It isn't. What is unsafe, is allowing somebody (through a telnet connection) to run !rm -rf / |
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| 09:32.50 | yuvan_k | ah..i see, is there any other way i can work around problem? |
| 09:34.17 | yuvan_k | coz i am using asterisk@home and set all my calls to be automatically recorded, however when i transfer an active call the file is saved as -in.WAV and -out.WAV |
| 09:34.44 | yuvan_k | so i was thinking the solution to this would be to run soxmix manually and merge the files |
| 09:34.59 | Qwell | using Monitor? |
| 09:35.10 | Qwell | show application monitor |
| 09:35.51 | Qwell | If you can't change that in *@h, then...that's a problem |
| 09:36.08 | Qwell | and yet another reason you shouldn't be using it in the first place |
| 09:36.37 | Qwell | off to bed |
| 09:36.48 | yuvan_k | allrite..thanks qwell |
| 09:38.19 | Sebbbbb | is there a way to set the fromdomain (the domain-part of a sip-address) before/at a dial-command? |
| 09:39.15 | Sebbbbb | (i want to set it to ${SIPDOMAIN} to realize a proxy) |
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| 09:43.20 | magic_1 | thanks for posting those site for me with the various doc files ,bigtime |
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| 10:10.21 | steff | hi all |
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| 10:11.49 | steff | anyone use ip10S from swissvoice |
| 10:13.24 | glock | steff, i do |
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| 10:18.07 | Assid | hrmm.. anyone seen shido/jerjer? |
| 10:21.35 | glock | Im having some issues with a zap group. I have in zapata.conf group=1 channel=>1-2 . When i try dial it, im calling Zap/g1/ and im getting Unable to create channel of type 'g1' (cause 66 - Channel not implemented) |
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| 10:25.25 | tzafrir_laptop | glock, could you post the full dialplan line |
| 10:25.27 | tzafrir_laptop | ? |
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| 10:30.58 | magic_1 | hi all i was just wondering is it possible to get a AMP for asterisk , |
| 10:31.54 | magic_1 | i know that that *@home comes with it i was just wanted to know if u get one for asterisk |
| 10:32.35 | tzafrir_laptop | there are installation instaructions in the site |
| 10:32.58 | tzafrir_laptop | we have debs for Sarge, that basically work |
| 10:33.47 | tzafrir_laptop | deb http://rapid.dotsrc.org/ unstable/ |
| 10:36.54 | Sebbbbb | is there a way to change the from: header? |
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| 10:37.56 | prog | hello to all |
| 10:38.57 | Sebbbbb | i want to "forward" an incoming sip-call to the phone without changing the from-header, so that the phone sees the original caller address.. is that possible? |
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| 10:43.12 | prog | please, just tell me yes or no- is possible following situation ? I have 2 phones connected to one asterisk pbx. Is possible when I make call from one phone to another ( still on one pbx) to get some welcome sound (like Background(welcome)) ? For example: I call to my college`s phone and I would like if it`s phone number allows me to listen some music when I am waiting. |
| 10:45.55 | prog | Sebbbbb, I thing that this behavior is default |
| 10:46.19 | Sebbbbb | prog: no |
| 10:46.29 | iDunno | anyone know of a good IAX2 trunk provider in the UK? |
| 10:46.45 | Sebbbbb | prog: the cidnum and name are transfered. but the domain is changed, so that the call originates from the asterisk-box |
| 10:47.16 | prog | Sebbbbb, yes yes, you are right |
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| 10:48.28 | onas | give import script for CDR from Master.csv to postresql db |
| 10:48.34 | onas | please |
| 10:49.21 | prog | Is possible to call gateway without calling from external phone ? For example: When Im testing my Asterisk gateway I do it with my cell phone ( and it is expensive ofcourse). Is there some way how to work around this and test it for free ? :-) |
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| 10:54.52 | ncd | hi |
| 10:58.21 | tzafrir_laptop | prog, use a call file or Originate from the manager interface |
| 10:58.41 | tzafrir_laptop | create an extension that plays a file |
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| 11:05.13 | ful|work | morning |
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| 11:12.19 | prog | tzafrir_laptop, thanks |
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| 11:20.08 | plshelpme | hi everybody |
| 11:20.41 | plshelpme | is there anyone help me about recording voicemail on mysql thing |
| 11:25.47 | plshelpme | is there any know life form here |
| 11:25.56 | plshelpme | know=known |
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| 11:29.16 | plshelpme | hello |
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| 11:50.52 | fourcheeze | plshelpme: no known life forms here |
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| 11:52.17 | fourcheeze | plshelpme: jooi why do you want to store your voicemail in mysql ? |
| 11:53.59 | testmach1ne | hmz |
| 11:54.03 | testmach1ne | those diva cards |
| 11:54.09 | testmach1ne | are iritating me |
| 11:54.13 | testmach1ne | eicon diva |
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| 11:57.42 | tzafrir_laptop | plshelpme, better ask your questions rather than complain, I figure. Note, however that storing stuff in mysql is not my cup of tea. |
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| 11:59.58 | fourcheeze | tzafrir_laptop: do you handle things like users wanting to change their passwords in real time? |
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| 12:02.25 | tzafrir_laptop | fourcheeze, I don't. However you can either use real-time config or reload asterisk's config after changing password. |
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| 12:04.09 | fourcheeze | tzafrir_laptop: ok, my boss seems to think that users will want to log into web pages to change their details |
| 12:04.33 | fourcheeze | tzafrir_laptop: given you don't like mysql, do you have any ideas about how to acheive it without them |
| 12:05.55 | fourcheeze | I'm worried about allowing something triggered by users reloading * |
| 12:07.26 | cpwp | can anyone help me with audio quality? |
| 12:07.43 | fourcheeze | cpwp: get better speakers? |
| 12:07.50 | cpwp | gsm/mp3 files play perfectly on my machine, but sound terrible when played by asterisk. |
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| 12:08.04 | cpwp | fourcheeze: thx ;-) |
| 12:08.08 | fourcheeze | np ;-) |
| 12:08.32 | mrtwister | cpwp: modprobe ztdummy |
| 12:08.46 | mrtwister | cpwp: for better sound :) |
| 12:08.59 | tzafrir_laptop | also: use zttest to check if you have a zaptel timing problem |
| 12:09.04 | cpwp | mrtwister: thanks, will try it. |
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| 12:09.40 | mrtwister | cpwp: if modprobe not works, uncomment ztdummy in zaptel makefile and re-compile |
| 12:09.52 | cpwp | k |
| 12:10.29 | cpwp | hmm. my copy of asterisk has been compiled without zaptel. recompile time. |
| 12:11.37 | mrtwister | cpwp: without timing (ztdummy, real card) you will get choppy sound |
| 12:11.47 | mrtwister | cpwp: but calls will go |
| 12:12.06 | mutilator | one of these days i gotta move to realtime |
| 12:12.24 | mutilator | i got a ghetto cron job dumping my sip.conf from db to flatfile right now |
| 12:13.33 | tzafrir_laptop | no need to comment it out. you can safely have ztdummy in your system. |
| 12:13.54 | tzafrir_laptop | In fact, it may coma handy in some situations ven if you do have a card |
| 12:13.55 | SkramX | Hi All |
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| 12:16.03 | CONTRABANDA | Hello |
| 12:17.01 | CONTRABANDA | Is it possible to create voicemail box from phone? |
| 12:17.53 | lme | CONTRABANDA: yes, via extension and an agi |
| 12:18.07 | CONTRABANDA | what is agi? |
| 12:18.14 | lme | ouch |
| 12:18.37 | CONTRABANDA | lme may i discuss this with you in private? |
| 12:18.44 | lme | yepe |
| 12:19.07 | CONTRABANDA | ok thanks |
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| 12:20.04 | plshelpme | i was working with asterisk in an other computer |
| 12:20.10 | plshelpme | i came back |
| 12:21.00 | CONTRABANDA | <plshelpme> WB |
| 12:21.49 | plshelpme | i want to store voicemail on odbc |
| 12:22.26 | fourcheeze | plshelpme: did you read this: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+voicemail+database |
| 12:23.25 | mutilator | Druken? |
| 12:23.34 | mutilator | stream is ded! |
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| 12:25.23 | hnupik | hi, i'am searching for some information about interconnecting SIP an H.323 systems. But the only thing i found is that it is possible to be done but very complicated. Please where can i find more accurate information? Is this interconnection possible with asterisk? |
| 12:25.26 | hnupik | thanx |
| 12:26.15 | mrtwister | hnupik: yes of course |
| 12:26.31 | plshelpme | i have read now |
| 12:26.41 | mrtwister | hnupik: sip -> h323 and h323 -> sip, no problems. with codec convertation too |
| 12:27.00 | plshelpme | but i dont want to use voicemail config from there i just want to use the db as voicemail storage |
| 12:27.05 | plshelpme | here it is |
| 12:27.20 | plshelpme | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Voicemail+ODBC+storage |
| 12:27.49 | plshelpme | the config in text file is ok for me just for now i mean |
| 12:29.04 | plshelpme | fourcheeze: r u there? |
| 12:29.22 | hnupik | mrtwister > where can i find more information about how to implement this solution? |
| 12:30.04 | mrtwister | hnupik: voip-online.org is main asterisk resource... www.inaccessnetworks.com is place where oh323 library can be downloaded |
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| 12:40.52 | lehel | hello |
| 12:41.07 | lme | hi |
| 12:42.00 | heroine | hi |
| 12:42.58 | SkramX | so.. |
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| 12:57.10 | Seba_soy | hnupik: |
| 12:57.32 | Seba_soy | hnupik: Actually I am doing h.323 <--> SIP |
| 12:57.36 | Seba_soy | with asterisk |
| 12:57.46 | Seba_soy | and chan_h323 or ooh323 |
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| 12:59.22 | cpwp | I've got the ztdummy module load but the gsm/mp3 files still sound really odd. |
| 12:59.41 | cpwp | is there any way to verify that asterisk is using zap? |
| 12:59.55 | cpwp | (apart from asterisk -v -f) |
| 13:01.47 | nextime | ther's another way other than using cdr manager or DeadAGI to pass cdr infos to a custom script for store a pre-parsed stats on a database? something like cdr custom that pipe to a self made script maybe... |
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| 13:04.15 | cpwp | in addition to the sound being scrathy, i get the following error: |
| 13:04.18 | cpwp | rtp.c:298 process_rfc3389: RFC3389 support incomplete. Turn off on client if possible |
| 13:04.34 | cpwp | does this mean my clent phone is broken ? |
| 13:04.36 | tzanger | cpwp: sounds pretty straightforward to me :-) |
| 13:04.42 | tzanger | no it means it's misconfigured |
| 13:04.48 | cpwp | heh |
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| 13:10.46 | Seba_soy | cpwp: it means that CLIENT has VAD configured, all you have to do is DISABLE VAD on Client IP |
| 13:11.25 | Seba_soy | cpwp: how calls are going? |
| 13:11.33 | plshelpme | . |
| 13:12.54 | Seba_soy | nextime: asterisk provides you CDR VARIABLES through DialPlan.. maybe you can use those variables... |
| 13:13.42 | tzafrir_laptop | cpwp, whatdo you want to verify? |
| 13:13.56 | tzafrir_laptop | about zap with asterisk? |
| 13:14.03 | tzafrir_laptop | zap show channels? |
| 13:15.01 | Seba_soy | cpwp: did you verify that when asterisk starts you don't have a legen like "sound choppy"?.. if you have this, is because ztdummy is not loaded |
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| 13:21.09 | Romik_ | hello! i go to setup small office, which termination equipment the best to use for call center? ATA-186 ? channel banks? SIP Phones? |
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| 13:22.09 | plshelpme | Romik_: if agents will also have computers |
| 13:22.31 | plshelpme | xten will be the best |
| 13:22.44 | zoa | callcenter: pri cards |
| 13:22.47 | Romik_ | plshelphme: they have computers...but i want real hardware |
| 13:23.13 | Romik_ | zoa: which end user equipments? |
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| 13:23.32 | zoa | softphones |
| 13:23.55 | pif | hi coppice, where is tx/rxfax on your site? |
| 13:24.34 | plshelpme | then try grandstream |
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| 13:24.57 | {zombie} | pif: http://www.soft-switch.org/downloads/spandsp/spandsp-0.0.2pre21c/ |
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| 13:25.18 | Romik_ | zoa: i d onot want they will play volume with computer... |
| 13:25.19 | pif | thanks |
| 13:26.20 | Druken | one of these days i'll have to finish the spandsp install... |
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| 13:28.54 | zoa | Romik_: you can disable that |
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| 13:29.30 | Seba_soy | Romik_: best I tried is SIPURA SPA2002, but SIP PHONES are a good choice too. |
| 13:29.49 | Romik_ | seba: they connector for headset? |
| 13:30.33 | Seba_soy | ??? |
| 13:30.59 | Seba_soy | SIPURA SPA2002 comes with 2 FXS ports and 1 ETHERNET... |
| 13:31.10 | Seba_soy | so, for 10 lines you need 5 sipuras. |
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| 13:31.21 | Seba_soy | each one is about 80 usd |
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| 13:32.53 | {zombie} | Romik_: if you want a "real" phone the Grandstream GXP2000 is great bang-for-buck |
| 13:33.13 | {zombie} | has a few bugs, but the latest beta firmware fixes most of them |
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| 13:34.43 | cpwp | I have put startup messages from asterisk at: |
| 13:34.46 | cpwp | http://www.linuxisp.co.uk/asterisk/startup.txt |
| 13:35.04 | cpwp | can you see why sound isn't working from there? |
| 13:35.12 | docelmo | huh? |
| 13:36.56 | Druken | call center, i'd say depending on the work it does, basic analog phones, pri card, and a channel bank |
| 13:37.06 | Druken | i wouldn't fuck around with ata's |
| 13:37.41 | MRH2 | seeing as i can't seem to get a milliwatt number for love nor money anyone advise any 'typical' settings for zapata / pri tx / tx gains |
| 13:38.04 | MRH2 | rx / tx |
| 13:39.06 | Romik_ | druken: are you sure that channel bank is much better than ATA or Analog gateways for 8 phones? |
| 13:39.44 | [TK]D-Fender | for 8 phones, definately not a channel bank.... thats wasteful |
| 13:40.18 | MRH2 | 8 phones you might as well go voip |
| 13:40.25 | [TK]D-Fender | 4 SPA's or a single 8 port gateway. But then again it'd be best if they are capable of just switching to IP phones.... |
| 13:40.35 | Seba_soy | for 8 phones, I think IP-HPNES or ANALOG GW is the best |
| 13:40.50 | Seba_soy | there is a lot of solutions coming with 8 FXS ports... |
| 13:41.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Seba_soy : Yeah, unfortunately everything 4+ ports in 1 box is disproportionately expensive. |
| 13:41.28 | Seba_soy | yes, that's true! |
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| 13:42.23 | Seba_soy | another problem is that Ata's with 2 ports does not support g729 compression BOTH at same time |
| 13:42.43 | Seba_soy | but in a Lan this is not a problem |
| 13:43.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Sipura = 40$/p. Clipcomm 4p=100$/p. AudioCodes=162/p |
| 13:44.17 | Seba_soy | well, sipura is CISCO property now :) |
| 13:44.20 | [TK]D-Fender | With audiocodes @ 162/p you could buy a Polycom IP 501! And it'll plug in-line with your existing computer |
| 13:44.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Seba_soy : true, but still cheap :) |
| 13:44.52 | Seba_soy | yea, ATA-186 cost a lot of monet |
| 13:44.54 | Seba_soy | money |
| 13:45.15 | [TK]D-Fender | And really.... there is no advantage I can see to paying extra for the Cisco ATA.... |
| 13:45.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Sipura "just works" |
| 13:45.33 | [TK]D-Fender | (in my experience) |
| 13:45.36 | Seba_soy | Sipura works very well |
| 13:45.57 | [TK]D-Fender | Especially considering they were founded by ex-Cisco employees :) |
| 13:46.05 | Seba_soy | :) |
| 13:46.23 | Seba_soy | or maybe he can use some DIGIUM cards. |
| 13:46.51 | Seba_soy | what do you recommend for FXO solution? |
| 13:46.58 | [TK]D-Fender | ... um... NAH! |
| 13:47.12 | [TK]D-Fender | For FXO? How many ports / what tech is the question... |
| 13:47.24 | Seba_soy | 2 ports, for a callcenter too |
| 13:47.28 | Seba_soy | incoming lines |
| 13:47.30 | [TK]D-Fender | 2 FXO? |
| 13:47.31 | Seba_soy | from pstn |
| 13:47.34 | [TK]D-Fender | thats it? |
| 13:47.34 | Seba_soy | routed to asterisk |
| 13:47.36 | Seba_soy | for IVR |
| 13:47.40 | [TK]D-Fender | AH |
| 13:48.00 | [TK]D-Fender | 2 ports is hard to call a call-center... you have troo many agents,, and not enough lines :) |
| 13:48.19 | Seba_soy | for starting it is enough :) |
| 13:48.31 | [TK]D-Fender | For 2FXO? Get 2 Sipura SPA-3000's. That gets you 2 FXO & 2 FXS. (50$/p for each) |
| 13:48.56 | Seba_soy | well, in Argentina each sipura cost at least 150 usd |
| 13:49.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Seba_soy : We had a call center of 4 agents and it sharde 4 line access with voicemail. it CHOKED |
| 13:49.22 | Seba_soy | what is CHOKED? |
| 13:49.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Seba_soy : Then I'll bet EVERYTHING is proportionately more expensive and still comes out to be a better deal :) |
| 13:49.56 | [TK]D-Fender | "choked" = strangled, limited, bottle-necked, over-loaded. |
| 13:50.14 | Seba_soy | actually I am trying to obtain a 2 PORT FXS for my Cisco 3600 |
| 13:50.21 | Seba_soy | sorry |
| 13:50.24 | Seba_soy | 2 ports FXO |
| 13:50.26 | [TK]D-Fender | as in we lost calls when there weren't any ports free... you really should increase the # ports |
| 13:51.14 | Seba_soy | we gonna start with 2 ports, after that I think we going to move directly to an E1 |
| 13:52.36 | [TK]D-Fender | thats a huge jump. if you still need FXS as well as FXO (from what I followed its 8 FXS, 2FXO right?) I'd say 2 SPA-3000, 3 SPA-2000. ( if you really want analog for your agents. |
| 13:55.13 | [TK]D-Fender | That'd total 340$USD. Kinda scary :) |
| 13:56.35 | *** join/#asterisk fugitivo (n=ajf@209.13.240.157) |
| 13:57.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Actually... voipsupply seems to carry unlocked PAP2's.... |
| 13:57.56 | [TK]D-Fender | that be cheaper still... |
| 13:58.46 | fugitivo | hello |
| 13:59.17 | docelmo | I have a SPA-2000 and 3000 I wanna get rid of.. I wanna buy a 1FXO, 1FXS card for my asterisk box at home |
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| 13:59.41 | [TK]D-Fender | So now : 2 x SPA-3000 ($100), 3 Linksys PAP2-NA ($60) =380$USD (my first figure was wrong and should have been $440) |
| 13:59.43 | Dandre | Hello all, |
| 14:00.20 | Dandre | How should I, with 1.2 prevent a second inbound call on a SIP Phone? |
| 14:01.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandre : You could add a ChanIsAvail check before calling it in every way that leads to it -or- limit it on the phone itself. |
| 14:01.19 | [TK]D-Fender | I suggest the latter. |
| 14:01.48 | Dandre | I can't on the phone (SwissVoice IP10S) |
| 14:03.21 | docelmo | I have unlocked PAP2's |
| 14:03.28 | [TK]D-Fender | How many ways can the phone be called in your setup? |
| 14:04.25 | Dandre | I have one Dial macro that do the job |
| 14:05.01 | Dandre | but One phone may be called from either another phone, incoming lines or queu |
| 14:05.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandre : then I'd mod your dial macro and do a ChanIsAvail for it in there looking for ANY call in progress. |
| 14:05.35 | [TK]D-Fender | I think I'm going to enhance my setup to allow that option as well... |
| 14:05.42 | Dandre | I haven't understood 'looking for ANY call in progress' |
| 14:07.22 | [TK]D-Fender | ChanIsAvail can return back different answers for different circumstances : It can say "phone is busy" if it CAN accept another call (which yours can if it is one already, or say "busy" if the phone is on a call REGARDLESS of whether or not it can accept another call |
| 14:07.39 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm referring to the latter. |
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| 14:08.53 | [TK]D-Fender | so for instance "exten => s,1,ChanIsAvail(SIP${ARG1},s)" <- the "s" will return busy if any call is in progress on that phone. |
| 14:10.10 | [TK]D-Fender | here's a better sample : http://pastebin.ca/32789 |
| 14:10.47 | [TK]D-Fender | Just adapt it to your dial-plan and maybe do some check for which phone you'd want to apply that rule to. |
| 14:13.27 | Katty | morning. it's morning, everyone! today's the day! the sun is shining, the tank is clean, and we are gonna get out of here! |
| 14:14.20 | [TK]D-Fender | *fap* |
| 14:14.23 | [TK]D-Fender | :O |
| 14:14.29 | iCEBrkr | hey hey |
| 14:16.27 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: remember, we keep our subesophageal ganglia to ourselves. |
| 14:18.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Now thats hard to swallow! |
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| 14:20.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Nope! Warranty replacement! |
| 14:21.27 | fourcheeze | Katty: can you name the zones? |
| 14:22.19 | fourcheeze | ... of the open sea |
| 14:23.34 | fourcheeze | Katty: spotted your film reference |
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| 14:24.19 | Katty | i see. |
| 14:25.03 | fourcheeze | about two lines later is "Lets name the zones, the zones, the zones. Lets name the zones of the open sea" |
| 14:25.27 | Katty | k |
| 14:27.27 | fourcheeze | clearly your kids didn't watch that at least once a day for about 2 months |
| 14:27.31 | fourcheeze | :-) |
| 14:27.37 | Katty | kids. haha. |
| 14:32.10 | blitzrage | oh joy... HD dieing this morning |
| 14:32.39 | blitzrage | can't recover a journal, and many files and dir's (including /sbin/ and /usr/bin/) are unreadable |
| 14:33.03 | blitzrage | strangely enough, it was still able to get booted up and give the class internet access :) |
| 14:33.15 | file[laptop] | 1337 |
| 14:33.44 | blitzrage | sure seems like it eh? |
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| 14:34.01 | file[laptop] | yup |
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| 14:35.29 | iCEBrkr | Anyone know if a Dialogit D/240JCT-T1 card can use PRI? The stuff I find on the net is kinda sketchy. |
| 14:35.39 | iCEBrkr | I'm not sure why not. |
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| 14:49.56 | blitzrage | file[laptop]: just got thinking... remember that idea we both indepentantly came up with in regards to having unlimited incoming calls? We can use SMS to send a message to Asterisk call the phone. That way you don't need outgoing calling at all! |
| 14:50.40 | blitzrage | since Rogers (for example) charges for a full minute if the call is under a minute or something like that |
| 14:50.53 | blitzrage | so if you had 100 minutes.. you'd be limited to 100 calls a month (outgoing) |
| 14:51.17 | blitzrage | but with SMS... no such limit exists :) |
| 14:51.33 | [TK]D-Fender | SMS is usually a per use (or bundle) charge, no? |
| 14:52.02 | tzanger | blitzrage: that does work |
| 14:52.03 | iCEBrkr | SMS to deliver SIP? |
| 14:52.04 | tzanger | it's a pain though |
| 14:52.21 | tzanger | it's the same where I dial an 800# to get DISA on my * system to dial out LD |
| 14:52.24 | jake1932 | if you have two phones in the same network, one hooked to the asterisk box, you could get unlimited in and out |
| 14:52.27 | tzanger | even with speed dial it sucks |
| 14:52.31 | file[laptop] | blitzrage: yup it's been done |
| 14:52.34 | file[laptop] | SMS callback |
| 14:53.09 | blitzrage | I'm not saying it hasn't been done :) |
| 14:53.18 | blitzrage | but just realized how to get around my first issue |
| 14:53.30 | blitzrage | tzanger: doesn't seem like that big a pain |
| 14:53.37 | tzanger | I still think you have one fucked up phone number |
| 14:53.46 | file[laptop] | pfft |
| 14:53.50 | file[laptop] | blitzrage's number rocks |
| 14:53.58 | tzanger | if you can remember hte position of hte 1s and 5s and 9s, yes |
| 14:54.00 | blitzrage | especially if you have it saved as a template on the phone |
| 14:54.04 | blitzrage | tzanger: best |
| 14:54.09 | blitzrage | tzanger: phone number |
| 14:54.11 | blitzrage | tzanger: ever |
| 14:54.16 | file[laptop] | and I have a bad memory! |
| 14:54.22 | tzanger | I want a REAL SMS gateway for Telus |
| 14:54.24 | blitzrage | yes -- I needed to say it on 3 lines :) |
| 14:54.26 | tzanger | not email |
| 14:54.29 | [TK]D-Fender | file[laptop] : you need..... ECC! |
| 14:54.29 | blitzrage | aye |
| 14:54.35 | blitzrage | good thing I use Rogers :) |
| 14:54.59 | tzanger | with a real SMS gateway I can light up MWI on the phone, not just "new email" |
| 14:56.09 | blitzrage | for anyone who wants to try and figure out my cell number, it only contains the numbers 5, 1, and 9 -- and thats the order of the area code... so you're 3/10's of the way there :) |
| 14:56.13 | tzanger | there was one I found on the internet but it was $0.17/sms IIRC |
| 14:56.19 | tzanger | I just can't remember the site |
| 14:56.31 | blitzrage | .17/sms?! ouch |
| 14:56.45 | [TK]D-Fender | blitzrage : and the first digit of 7 remaining can't be a 1 :) |
| 14:56.57 | blitzrage | hahah... true :) |
| 14:56.57 | tzanger | it's like 519 951 5119 or something |
| 14:57.05 | file[desk] | close |
| 14:57.06 | blitzrage | almost |
| 14:57.13 | tzanger | 591? |
| 14:57.17 | blitzrage | :) |
| 14:57.22 | file[desk] | now everyone call blitzrage and bug him |
| 14:57.27 | iCEBrkr | haha, 1,5,9 are on a diagonal too. |
| 14:57.30 | blitzrage | I'm in class, no calling :) |
| 14:57.31 | iCEBrkr | That's pretty cool |
| 14:57.33 | blitzrage | iCEBrkr: yep :) |
| 14:57.36 | *** join/#asterisk Ariel_ (n=Ariel@adsl-068-157-125-248.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 14:57.40 | Ariel_ | hello folks |
| 14:57.41 | blitzrage | and nothing changes if you have to dial +1 |
| 14:57.44 | blitzrage | :) |
| 14:58.05 | file[desk] | blitzrage: evil! |
| 14:58.12 | blitzrage | everyone complains in Toronto that they have to dial LD to get a hold of me, but I don't really f'n care :) |
| 14:58.18 | *** join/#asterisk ahole (n=ah@spirit.segfault.net) |
| 14:58.27 | blitzrage | its just a deterent to calling me for no reason :) |
| 14:58.32 | jake1932 | for someone with moderate number dyslexia, it's a real nightmare |
| 14:58.50 | file[desk] | thus why we have contact lists on our phones! |
| 14:59.16 | blitzrage | I need a new phone... wonder how much a Treo would cost me... |
| 14:59.16 | tzanger | that's what my msn is today |
| 14:59.21 | tzanger | "I put the sexy in dyslexia" |
| 14:59.27 | blitzrage | lol |
| 14:59.42 | blitzrage | tzanger has the best msn names EVAR |
| 14:59.45 | iCEBrkr | Treo's keyboards suck compared to Sidekick |
| 14:59.56 | tzanger | iCEBrkr: really? I have *no* trouble with my treo650 keyboard |
| 15:00.08 | iCEBrkr | tzanger: You've never typed a long message on a Sidekick then :P |
| 15:00.09 | tzanger | well no I often hit Q instead of / because I hit shift instead of the dot |
| 15:00.11 | blitzrage | hrmmm... sidekick looked bigger than the trea... |
| 15:00.20 | iCEBrkr | blitzrage: Not really. |
| 15:00.23 | tzanger | iCEBrkr: no, but I've typed entire paragraphs into the treo |
| 15:00.32 | blitzrage | might look into the sidekick too... |
| 15:00.36 | iCEBrkr | tzanger: I've already tried to switch to a Treo.. I can't do it. |
| 15:00.42 | tzanger | iCEBrkr: :-) |
| 15:00.43 | blitzrage | how much are each in CAD $'s ? |
| 15:00.45 | tzanger | well I'm a CDMA weenie too |
| 15:00.52 | iCEBrkr | The keyboard is too tight on the Treo. |
| 15:00.56 | tzanger | blitzrage: I think the 650's like $700 to buy outright |
| 15:01.01 | blitzrage | eeeesh |
| 15:01.12 | iCEBrkr | ...and I really wanted a Treo for PalmOS. But that's out the window now. |
| 15:01.17 | tzanger | regular phones are around $350-$450... what's the problem |
| 15:01.24 | blitzrage | tzanger: I'm cheap |
| 15:01.29 | tzanger | iCEBrkr: heh yeah that's SPECIFICALLY why I do not like the blackberries |
| 15:01.32 | SpaceBass | has EVDO, Wifi and bluetooth though |
| 15:01.34 | tzanger | they're ass-slow and they suck for development |
| 15:01.34 | jake1932 | out the window now? more like with the windows |
| 15:01.46 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm willing to spend $300 for a combo Cell / SIP phone.... |
| 15:02.00 | tzanger | my treo's got EVDO and BT... SDIO can get me wifi too if I *really* want |
| 15:02.11 | iCEBrkr | Yeah, the blackberry's suck apparently. I've toyed with it.. It's not a bad device. Friends hate them. They got them for work. |
| 15:02.25 | tzanger | yep |
| 15:02.28 | tzanger | we got the treos for work |
| 15:02.29 | *** join/#asterisk pdugas (n=pdugas@h52.83.40.69.ip.alltel.net) |
| 15:02.29 | blitzrage | I'd never buy a BB :) |
| 15:02.38 | tzanger | I mean I'm 40 minutes from RIM central too |
| 15:02.42 | iCEBrkr | blitzrage: but but but! They have PUSH technology!!! |
| 15:02.51 | tzanger | who gives a fuck |
| 15:02.54 | tzanger | seriously heh |
| 15:02.58 | iCEBrkr | tzanger: that was sarcasm |
| 15:03.00 | blitzrage | oh really?!?!?! fuck I need one |
| 15:03.04 | docelmo | Woo HOO! |
| 15:03.11 | iCEBrkr | blitzrage: Yea man! you're not 1337 without it |
| 15:03.13 | tzanger | I can get PUSH with proper application of smart polling |
| 15:03.15 | tzanger | oh hell |
| 15:03.24 | *** join/#asterisk KriS83 (n=KriS@212.202.141.92) |
| 15:03.24 | tzanger | I can get PUSH with a properly crafted SMS to initiate the poll |
| 15:03.29 | iCEBrkr | :) |
| 15:03.29 | mtgh | Quick poll: What cell provider (in the states) has the best service and coverage |
| 15:03.34 | *** join/#asterisk Seldon1975 (n=someone@gatekeeper.radintl.com) |
| 15:03.36 | blitzrage | Rogers :) |
| 15:03.36 | tzanger | no more bandwidth use than PUSH |
| 15:03.42 | KriS83 | Hi |
| 15:03.44 | docelmo | T-MOBILE! |
| 15:03.47 | blitzrage | AT&T works well for me when I'm here |
| 15:03.48 | iCEBrkr | docelmo: WHUT UP! |
| 15:03.55 | jake1932 | Verizon - can you hear me now? |
| 15:04.01 | blitzrage | what? |
| 15:04.20 | docelmo | Nada.. |
| 15:04.27 | docelmo | Verizon suckS! |
| 15:04.35 | docelmo | What is PUSH? |
| 15:04.46 | blitzrage | in agents, the autologoff feature is in what time unit? (seconds, minutes, years?) |
| 15:04.51 | iCEBrkr | docelmo: Can a Dialogic D/240JCT-T1 use PRI?? |
| 15:04.52 | docelmo | And I finally got a kick ass router in my house.. |
| 15:04.54 | Seldon1975 | anyone here using a TDM2400? |
| 15:05.28 | docelmo | Possible.. However I would have to check into it. Most if not all T1 devices will do ISDN PRI just depends on firmware version |
| 15:05.32 | jake1932 | If you didn't guess already, it depends on what area you're in... Sprint, T-Mobile, and Nextel are all pretty bad here |
| 15:05.46 | docelmo | Seldon1975, your still looking for the pinout of a ampenol cable? |
| 15:06.02 | docelmo | jake1932, where is here? |
| 15:06.06 | blitzrage | I've been all over the US now, and AT&T (I use Rogers in Canada -- they must have a partnership) almost always works for me |
| 15:06.11 | docelmo | I have used Tmobile globally and I have never had a problem |
| 15:06.19 | blitzrage | this is in California, Michigan, Missouri, Florida and Seattle |
| 15:06.21 | iCEBrkr | docelmo: The stuff I've been reading claims it does.. Just wondering if I could get a definitive answer |
| 15:06.33 | blitzrage | oh, and Chicago |
| 15:07.07 | iCEBrkr | docelmo: I get better T-Mobile coverage down here than back home in Cleveland. |
| 15:07.07 | iCEBrkr | docelmo: and I still have my Cleveland number ( not that it matters ) |
| 15:07.07 | docelmo | I have never used one.. if it says it does I would say probably.. However.. How hard it is to setup???? I dunno |
| 15:07.07 | docelmo | hehe.. |
| 15:07.10 | docelmo | I have had them for 2 years.. I dont plan to switch |
| 15:07.25 | iCEBrkr | docelmo: I got a Sidekick2, so I don't plan on switching either :P |
| 15:07.26 | docelmo | I just wish they could put a tower near my house.. My recieption sucks there |
| 15:07.33 | jake1932 | philly area |
| 15:08.03 | docelmo | My Tmobile worked fine there a few months ago when I went to see my son |
| 15:08.32 | blitzrage | iCEBrkr: is the Sidekick2 quad-band? |
| 15:08.48 | docelmo | I believe its only Tri.. |
| 15:08.54 | docelmo | My Moto is Quad |
| 15:09.02 | jake1932 | i know many people who are in contract with T-mobile around here that want to get out ASAP because of the coverage |
| 15:09.02 | blitzrage | yah... the razor? |
| 15:09.10 | docelmo | Nope.. V600 |
| 15:09.13 | blitzrage | ah |
| 15:09.17 | blitzrage | yah, that one too |
| 15:09.29 | blitzrage | I'm worried about service working in Europe too... |
| 15:10.01 | docelmo | I used my phone in UK and Germany and in between with no problem. Also.. Pakastan, Phillipines, and Japan |
| 15:10.18 | blitzrage | yah -- i want something with a keyboard though |
| 15:10.21 | SpaceBass | coverage with my t-mob bb 7100g sucked... all over the US it sucked |
| 15:10.27 | SpaceBass | my sprint ppc-6700 os much better |
| 15:10.34 | SpaceBass | but the device isn't as slick yet |
| 15:10.45 | *** join/#asterisk SERGEUS (n=s@195.112.98.13) |
| 15:10.46 | iCEBrkr | I get good coverage with my Sidekick regardless where I'm at... Oh, unless I'm in Cleveland then it sucks. |
| 15:10.49 | docelmo | Space try to take it out of the states and get signal |
| 15:10.55 | iCEBrkr | It works fine everywhere but back home |
| 15:11.16 | SpaceBass | docelm0 Nope, SUCKED in northern Ireland and the republic of Ireland... SUCKED... but my sony t610 worked great |
| 15:11.34 | docelmo | You used your sprint phone over seas? |
| 15:11.44 | SpaceBass | no... cant :( |
| 15:11.46 | docelmo | I wasnt aware they have services outside of the states.. |
| 15:11.53 | SpaceBass | but I can use my 2 unlocked t610s :) |
| 15:12.03 | docelmo | Then thats probably why your service sucked in Ireland.. :) |
| 15:12.19 | *** join/#asterisk netwind (n=pavlo@tech02.off.comlink.ru) |
| 15:12.19 | SpaceBass | In Ireland I just got a pay as you go SIM card and dublin DID for my * box... |
| 15:12.20 | SpaceBass | No, service on my t-mob 7100g sucked |
| 15:12.55 | netwind | hi guyes! |
| 15:13.05 | docelmo | Who makes the 7100? |
| 15:13.08 | SpaceBass | blackberry |
| 15:13.09 | SpaceBass | rim |
| 15:13.10 | SERGEUS | netwind, there is also russian channel available :) #asteriskru |
| 15:13.14 | netwind | please help me construct h323-disa |
| 15:13.25 | SpaceBass | As a device I liked the design a lot... but I went through 4 in a year for various problems |
| 15:13.30 | netwind | my app_disa seems doesn't work |
| 15:13.31 | docelmo | Well.. I dunno.. I used my v600 there and it worked perfect |
| 15:14.01 | netwind | SERGEUS how many active users?) |
| 15:14.35 | docelmo | Russian chics are cool.. :) |
| 15:14.43 | netwind | [default] |
| 15:14.44 | SERGEUS | :) |
| 15:14.46 | netwind | extern => _X,1,Playback(demo-nogo) |
| 15:14.51 | netwind | extern => _X,2,Hangup |
| 15:14.55 | docelmo | I personally like Ivana Humpalot |
| 15:14.56 | netwind | exten => 002822,1,Background(demo-echotest) |
| 15:15.00 | netwind | exten => 002822,2,WaitExten(10) |
| 15:15.05 | netwind | exten => i,1,Hangup |
| 15:15.05 | docelmo | dude! |
| 15:15.09 | oogle | whoa |
| 15:15.11 | docelmo | pastebin! |
| 15:15.14 | netwind | so what's wrong? |
| 15:15.31 | oogle | http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 15:15.44 | docelmo | ~pastebin |
| 15:15.45 | jbot | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 15:16.43 | Seldon1975 | docelmo: yes - still trying to determine which pins are FXS and which are FXO |
| 15:17.21 | docelmo | haha dude.. It depends on how the card is configured for one.. Secondly.. Hold I will find you a URL |
| 15:17.33 | Seldon1975 | that would be awesome |
| 15:17.49 | pdugas | Trying prepend *70 to calls routed out my SPA-3000. Getting "Forbidden - wrong password..." in SIP response. Works without *70. Ideas? |
| 15:18.56 | docelmo | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2002-November/005795.html |
| 15:18.58 | docelmo | there |
| 15:19.11 | Seldon1975 | thx |
| 15:19.23 | docelmo | Google My good man.. GOOGLE |
| 15:20.00 | Seldon1975 | docelmo - actually Ive seen this one before |
| 15:20.05 | Seldon1975 | and maybe I'm being dense |
| 15:20.19 | Seldon1975 | but I dont see the mapping fromt he cards modules to the pinout |
| 15:20.26 | docelmo | You said you wanted the 50 pin pinout.. There is it |
| 15:20.29 | docelmo | err it is |
| 15:20.34 | docelmo | sigh |
| 15:20.42 | *** join/#asterisk test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) |
| 15:20.43 | docelmo | ZAP/1 is the 1st pair |
| 15:20.51 | docelmo | ZAP/2 is the 2nd pair |
| 15:20.53 | docelmo | and so on |
| 15:21.06 | test34 | Which voip provider/voip adapter do you recommend in the US? |
| 15:21.07 | docelmo | Depends on how you have your cards positioned on the mainboard |
| 15:21.14 | docelmo | PlainVOIP! |
| 15:21.19 | docelmo | and Linksys.. |
| 15:21.23 | docelmo | I offer both... :P |
| 15:22.02 | iCEBrkr | docelmo: Lemme know when you can provide DID :P |
| 15:22.07 | Seldon1975 | docelmo - ok the two FXO are on the left, closest to the RJ21X, the FXS is on the far right |
| 15:22.29 | docelmo | I can.. But having issues with my provider they keep sending me screwed up URI's.. So I reject the call |
| 15:22.51 | iCEBrkr | docelmo: Yea, I saw you mention something about that the other day |
| 15:23.01 | docelmo | And dude.. I dont know shit about that card.. So I cant tell ya.. How many FXO/FXS did you order on it? |
| 15:23.11 | Seldon1975 | does that mean that channels 1-8 are FXO and channels 20-24 are FXS |
| 15:23.15 | *** part/#asterisk SpaceBass (n=sp@static-71-251-230-2.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 15:23.28 | Seldon1975 | 2 x FXO, 1x FXS |
| 15:23.30 | docelmo | Seldon1975, have you tired to call Digium? |
| 15:23.39 | test34 | docelm0, ok I will check the website for more info, thanks |
| 15:23.46 | Seldon1975 | docelmo, yes: 1-877-LINUXME doesnt work |
| 15:24.08 | docelmo | really? Did you try calling via your Asterisk box? |
| 15:24.56 | Seldon1975 | no, I dont have the box up yet - kinda hard without this info |
| 15:25.07 | docelmo | Well..... |
| 15:25.44 | Seldon1975 | surely the support line doesnt presuppose you have a working asterisk system |
| 15:25.47 | docelmo | I dont know if the daughter boards are 1x1 or like 3x1 on the board.. |
| 15:25.55 | Seldon1975 | ok |
| 15:26.02 | Seldon1975 | i have had one email from digium |
| 15:26.15 | Seldon1975 | still waiting for a reply to my follow up since yesterday morning |
| 15:26.18 | docelmo | yes and no.. They fifure you have a clue how to install it.. Maybe just issues on confgiuring |
| 15:27.03 | docelmo | Cause I installed mine.. Got it up and running just had an issue with my CAS signaling.. |
| 15:27.17 | Seldon1975 | but you're not using the TDM2400 |
| 15:27.26 | Seldon1975 | for which the documentation seems non-existent |
| 15:27.37 | docelmo | True.. But then I also use ISDN.. :) |
| 15:27.49 | docelmo | You bought a BRAND NEW CARD.. its only been out for like a month or so |
| 15:27.51 | Seldon1975 | nice for some... |
| 15:27.59 | docelmo | Noone has played with it yet |
| 15:28.07 | Seldon1975 | ok so Im on the bleeding edge |
| 15:28.23 | docelmo | And from what I have seen in the channel I believe your the only one who has actually bought it so far.... |
| 15:28.35 | *** join/#asterisk puzzled (n=patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl) |
| 15:28.39 | Seldon1975 | still, im surprised that (a) their support line doesnt work and (b) their email response seems delayed by 24h |
| 15:28.47 | puzzled | hi |
| 15:28.47 | docelmo | But question.. Why buy that and not a 4 port card? |
| 15:28.51 | docelmo | Is this for your house? |
| 15:28.54 | Seldon1975 | no |
| 15:28.57 | Seldon1975 | small office |
| 15:29.03 | Seldon1975 | my employer bought it |
| 15:29.07 | docelmo | ahh |
| 15:29.15 | Seldon1975 | and said 'here - make this work' :D |
| 15:29.16 | docelmo | How many stations/trunks? |
| 15:29.22 | Seldon1975 | 7 trunks |
| 15:29.27 | Seldon1975 | prolly 20 stations |
| 15:29.35 | docelmo | Your bigger than your card is already |
| 15:30.14 | Seldon1975 | why - doesnt 2xFXO give us capacity for 8 trunks |
| 15:30.30 | docelmo | Personally I would have trunked it up to a fractional ISDN PRI and SIP end points.. My office has 2 PRI's and 50 stations |
| 15:30.42 | docelmo | No.. 2 FXO is 2 trunks |
| 15:30.58 | Seldon1975 | each module is quad tho |
| 15:31.07 | Seldon1975 | doesnt that mean 4x trunk per module |
| 15:31.07 | docelmo | you didnt say that.. sigh |
| 15:31.12 | Seldon1975 | soz |
| 15:31.13 | docelmo | then yes |
| 15:31.21 | docelmo | brb.. Boss just called me.. |
| 15:31.24 | Seldon1975 | k |
| 15:31.27 | docelmo | have to do some techie shit.. brb |
| 15:39.58 | bsdfreak | there is no love here and there is no pain |
| 15:41.36 | *** join/#asterisk nfi|ermes (n=ermsewrk@217.220.121.62) |
| 15:43.37 | netwind | how i can collect N digits then dial ? |
| 15:44.05 | iCEBrkr | Read() |
| 15:44.09 | netwind | how WaitExten works ? |
| 15:44.48 | *** join/#asterisk Gerriall (n=NonYa@209.42.198.18) |
| 15:45.03 | jake1932 | or use pattern matching _NNNN (4 digits) |
| 15:45.14 | netwind | hmm |
| 15:45.22 | jake1932 | or |
| 15:45.25 | jake1932 | _XXXX |
| 15:45.28 | netwind | i use h323 and dial into asterisk |
| 15:45.31 | jake1932 | sorry - been a while |
| 15:45.39 | netwind | exten => 002822,2,WaitExten(10) |
| 15:45.44 | *** join/#asterisk bjohnson_ (n=bjohnson@jecinc.tor.istop.com) |
| 15:46.03 | netwind | i dial into asterisk to 002822 number |
| 15:46.21 | netwind | so what? i need extension _XXX ? |
| 15:46.27 | jake1932 | right |
| 15:46.31 | jake1932 | (not Ns) |
| 15:46.44 | netwind | but it seems not work |
| 15:46.53 | netwind | i use asterisk-1.0.10 |
| 15:47.00 | netwind | is it still good ?) |
| 15:47.14 | jake1932 | _XXXX,1,Something |
| 15:47.24 | jake1932 | will match on 4 digits |
| 15:48.15 | netwind | ok |
| 15:48.18 | netwind | but i have error |
| 15:48.25 | jake1932 | what error? |
| 15:48.29 | netwind | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.40 | netwind | when i press 3 |
| 15:48.55 | netwind | it not wait for other digits |
| 15:49.13 | netwind | i have very simple extensions.conf |
| 15:49.23 | jake1932 | can you pastebin it? |
| 15:49.27 | jake1932 | ~pastebin |
| 15:49.29 | jbot | well, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 15:49.53 | netwind | it's new irc stuff ? |
| 15:50.08 | jake1932 | it's not new |
| 15:50.48 | jake1932 | just click the link and paste your extensions.conf file (take out any passwords or sensitive info) |
| 15:51.27 | netwind | good ) |
| 15:51.30 | netwind | http://pastebin.ca/32805 |
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| 15:52.11 | jake1932 | ok, so you're matching on 3 digits |
| 15:52.47 | jake1932 | most likely you're phone is sending the 3 down the pipe before it's reading |
| 15:52.53 | jake1932 | ready (not reading) |
| 15:53.07 | netwind | yes! it's h323 channel |
| 15:53.25 | netwind | i need collect 3 digits and dial to another h323-gw |
| 15:53.31 | jake1932 | right |
| 15:53.41 | [TK]D-Fender | netwind : your XXX line says "EXTERN" not "EXTEN" <------ |
| 15:53.44 | pif | can I chooses to ring console/dsp on one sound card, and have the convo on another? |
| 15:53.46 | [TK]D-Fender | TYPO! |
| 15:53.59 | *** join/#asterisk shido6 (n=shido6@d221-68-216.commercial.cgocable.net) |
| 15:54.01 | jake1932 | yes |
| 15:54.06 | jake1932 | duh |
| 15:54.16 | netwind | btw i paste running log |
| 15:54.23 | netwind | do you see? |
| 15:54.29 | jake1932 | exten |
| 15:54.32 | [TK]D-Fender | netwind : don't bother, read my previous statement |
| 15:54.33 | docelmo | I ahad fun did you? |
| 15:54.39 | jake1932 | as they said - your put extern |
| 15:55.42 | netwind | fuck) |
| 15:55.51 | jake1932 | man - what would we do on this channel if asterisk had a syntax checker |
| 15:56.07 | docelmo | haha |
| 15:56.09 | lehel | hey, what would be the best solution for a client who lives in Belgium, and wants easy communication to the Netherlands, uses ISDN and wants to keep his local telco numbers? |
| 15:56.11 | Ikarus | jake1932: not exist |
| 15:56.15 | docelmo | Yes would be nice.. |
| 15:56.23 | *** join/#asterisk laaaz (i=lez@melyseg.hu) |
| 15:56.28 | laaaz | oy |
| 15:56.28 | Ikarus | lehel: local being ? |
| 15:56.44 | bsdfreak | heh |
| 15:56.53 | netwind | wow |
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| 15:57.01 | netwind | its works |
| 15:57.25 | [TK]D-Fender | :p |
| 15:57.25 | lehel | uh, i need to find out |
| 15:57.33 | docelmo | to make an app to do syntax checking would make things interesting considering the amount of time it would take to do it. |
| 15:57.47 | lehel | but it's necessary two * serves? |
| 15:58.11 | Ikarus | lehel: depends, if you use a Dutch SIP provider, no |
| 15:58.15 | docelmo | But also it wouldnt be 100% cause of the changes and unique dialplans people have.. hell.. [TK]D-Fender can attest to that with his 20k dialplan.. :P |
| 15:58.32 | [TK]D-Fender | docelm0 : 12.8k dammit! 12.8k! |
| 15:58.40 | fourcheeze | is there a good model somewhere on how to scale to more than one * server? |
| 15:58.48 | docelmo | I was rounding up |
| 15:58.51 | fourcheeze | so I can have several servers with the same config |
| 15:58.58 | jake1932 | if you can come up with structures, you should be able to enforce them |
| 15:59.00 | Ikarus | fourcheeze: there is some stuff on the wiki |
| 15:59.12 | docelmo | fourcheeze, yes.. I have 10 asterisk servers clustered with the same config |
| 15:59.14 | fourcheeze | Ikarus: I kinda found some hints |
| 15:59.31 | fourcheeze | docelmo: tell me you wrote a howto :-) |
| 15:59.36 | docelmo | no |
| 15:59.38 | [TK]D-Fender | docelm0 : THOUGH... I will be needing to add the rest of the ASTDB support scripts into there so It will all but certainly hit 20k :D |
| 15:59.41 | lehel | Ikarus, dutch sip providers like? |
| 15:59.54 | fourcheeze | docelmo: tell me someone else wrote one :-) |
| 15:59.59 | docelmo | uhh nope.. |
| 16:00.04 | fourcheeze | :/ |
| 16:00.19 | Ikarus | lehel: the national telco for one |
| 16:00.22 | fourcheeze | lots of people out there saying "yeah, we've got 100 servers running on blah with blah users" |
| 16:00.27 | docelmo | basically mine is SER -> 10 ASTERISK CLUSTER -> SIP Proxy -> Termination provider |
| 16:00.27 | fourcheeze | no-one actually saying how they did it |
| 16:00.41 | Ikarus | lehel: although I don't know if they would dare give out a Dutch number for a foreign address |
| 16:00.53 | fourcheeze | docelmo: so you have a single SER |
| 16:01.00 | docelmo | No 2 |
| 16:01.05 | fourcheeze | ok |
| 16:01.11 | fourcheeze | so what do the 10 * servers do? |
| 16:01.15 | fourcheeze | voicemail ? |
| 16:01.17 | docelmo | Well actually 4 :) |
| 16:01.24 | fourcheeze | hmm |
| 16:01.25 | docelmo | no.. Call routing, accounting, billing |
| 16:01.29 | fourcheeze | ok |
| 16:01.35 | docelmo | I have 2 SER in the front and 2 SER in the back |
| 16:01.42 | fourcheeze | oooookk |
| 16:01.50 | h3x0r | overkill++++ |
| 16:02.07 | fourcheeze | I was gonna ask what %age of full load this runs at |
| 16:02.09 | [TK]D-Fender | docelm0 : stop rounding up.. you're not very good at it :D |
| 16:02.15 | [TK]D-Fender | docelm0 : or perhaps TOO good... |
| 16:02.16 | docelmo | I can do quite a few calls at one time.. I am figuring about 4-6000 ish |
| 16:02.27 | fourcheeze | ok |
| 16:02.36 | fourcheeze | so users log into 1 of the 2 front ends |
| 16:02.45 | fourcheeze | sip to sip calls happen entirely in SER? |
| 16:02.49 | docelmo | Nope.. only 1 SER is active at one time.. |
| 16:02.56 | fourcheeze | ahh ok |
| 16:02.58 | docelmo | Nope.. Sip is my load balancer only |
| 16:03.06 | docelmo | I have the 2 ser boxes Heart beated |
| 16:03.09 | fourcheeze | ok |
| 16:03.14 | fourcheeze | so users log into a single SER |
| 16:03.18 | docelmo | Nope.. |
| 16:03.23 | docelmo | IP Authentication |
| 16:03.24 | docelmo | :) |
| 16:03.27 | fourcheeze | ok |
| 16:03.28 | h3x0r | ew |
| 16:03.43 | fourcheeze | sip to sip calls happen from the single SER |
| 16:03.46 | docelmo | This system is for large scale clients with like 100k + a month |
| 16:03.55 | zoa | hey docelmo |
| 16:03.58 | zoa | i have something similar |
| 16:03.59 | docelmo | smaller guys use plainvoip which runs thru this system or our retail system |
| 16:04.06 | zoa | but even bigger |
| 16:04.15 | docelmo | geesh.. |
| 16:04.18 | docelmo | Do tell Z |
| 16:04.22 | fourcheeze | docelmo: is your config in mysql? |
| 16:04.35 | zoa | great minds think alike :) |
| 16:04.38 | docelmo | Nope.. Static Dialplans and custom modules |
| 16:04.56 | fourcheeze | but your users are all in SER, not *? |
| 16:04.57 | file[desk] | yes... custom modules... |
| 16:05.22 | fourcheeze | what can custom modules be written in? |
| 16:05.31 | docelmo | Nope.. All users stored in MySQL called from custom modules |
| 16:05.52 | docelmo | I rewrote some app_ c moduels for my use |
| 16:06.09 | fourcheeze | my C is very rusty :( |
| 16:06.15 | fourcheeze | about 15 years old |
| 16:06.23 | drumkilla | I love C :) |
| 16:06.27 | file[desk] | you can do stuff in perl too using res_perl... exposes the full API if you're that... crazy |
| 16:06.28 | docelmo | Hay till I coded mine I never touched C.. a hell of a lot of PHP but no C |
| 16:06.41 | docelmo | and thanks to the people in the channel for providing me with the help |
| 16:07.01 | fourcheeze | docelmo: care to draw a picture of your system? |
| 16:07.05 | fourcheeze | :-) |
| 16:07.15 | drumkilla | it's black ... 2U ... |
| 16:07.21 | fourcheeze | hehe |
| 16:07.34 | docelmo | Its simple.. client -> SER -> (one of 10) Asterisk Servers -> Proxy -> Termination provider |
| 16:07.38 | fourcheeze | is SER better at NAT traversal than * ? |
| 16:07.59 | docelmo | or inbound DID provider -> SER -> * cluster -> client |
| 16:08.02 | [TK]D-Fender | SER supports STUN iirc... |
| 16:08.02 | fourcheeze | docelmo: how do you know which one of the 10 servers a user is logged into? |
| 16:08.11 | fourcheeze | for routing? |
| 16:08.16 | docelmo | look.. :) |
| 16:08.41 | fourcheeze | docelmo: if I'm logged into server1 and you're logged into server2 and I want to call you, how does my call make it? |
| 16:08.46 | docelmo | I am looking to code a front end to monitor all of the server beofore long so I have 1 place to watch everything happening on all 10 |
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| 16:13.21 | dokhench_work | docelmo: why putting SER in front of asterisk? what is it doing that asterisk isn't/can't? |
| 16:13.51 | Nugget | asterisk isn't a sip proxy. |
| 16:14.01 | docelmo | support 4-6000 calls at one time |
| 16:14.02 | docelmo | :) |
| 16:14.08 | docelmo | its acting as a load balancer |
| 16:14.09 | fourcheeze | Nugget: can you define what you mean by SIP proxy in this instance? |
| 16:14.22 | Nugget | asterisk doesn't proxy sip traffic |
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| 16:14.37 | fourcheeze | so what does it do with it? |
| 16:14.39 | Nugget | it can, but not without a lot of effort, ugliness, and discomfort. |
| 16:14.42 | dokhench_work | docelmo: ok, was curious. thought load might be the case, wasn't sure tho. |
| 16:14.52 | jimmy_deanPB | what's the purpose of the command WaitMusicOnHold, voip-info.org's explanation doesn't make sense |
| 16:15.13 | Nugget | things that aren't proxying. |
| 16:15.23 | fourcheeze | Nugget: ok, put it this way. What features do you want that you need a Sip proxy for? |
| 16:15.31 | ManxPower | jimmy_deanPB, to force someone to listen to MoH. Can also be useful for testing MoH |
| 16:15.55 | Nugget | passing sip through a network border or barrier that would otherwise prevent sip traffic from passing easily. |
| 16:16.08 | Nugget | or to centralize the ingress/egress point for monitoring/logging/firewalling/whatever |
| 16:16.14 | jimmy_deanPB | ManxPower, oh, so WaitMusicOnHold(20) will force 20 seconds of on hold music? |
| 16:16.40 | ManxPower | jimmy_deanPB, I would have to look it up, but yes. |
| 16:17.08 | fourcheeze | Nugget: so you use SER on a router? |
| 16:17.10 | jimmy_deanPB | ok, is there a command to delay the start of the music playing? |
| 16:17.15 | Nugget | no, I don't personally. |
| 16:17.18 | jimmy_deanPB | like pause one second, then play |
| 16:17.44 | tzafrir_laptop | jimmy_deanPB, Wait() and on the next line MusicOnHold? |
| 16:17.48 | fourcheeze | Nugget: does SER work better than * for connecting to clients behind NAT? |
| 16:17.59 | Nugget | it depends. |
| 16:18.05 | jimmy_deanPB | tzafrir_laptop, will that do it even for the onhold music that you get when placed in a queue? |
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| 16:18.44 | Dandre | [TK]D-Fender: thanks for your explanation, I was busy |
| 16:18.49 | tzafrir_laptop | is siproxyd of use for running a simple sip proxy on a router? |
| 16:18.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandre : np |
| 16:19.23 | ManxPower | SER just seems more trouble than it's worth for most situations. |
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| 16:26.38 | bsdfreak | ah ah ah ahh. |
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| 16:35.12 | brettnem | good morning all |
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| 16:37.45 | netwind | hmm..chan-h323 works only with 1st call) |
| 16:37.45 | brettnem | well fine, don't say good morning to me.. all 310 of you |
| 16:37.48 | netwind | cool |
| 16:38.02 | netwind | what version of openh323 recommended for now? |
| 16:38.05 | qw3rty | Does anyone here use lookupblacklist in their asterisk config? |
| 16:38.26 | netwind | previously "Pandora Release" was |
| 16:39.02 | brettnem | I'd try woomera.. but I'm a nut |
| 16:40.07 | tzanger | what is a cheap ISDN BRI card that * supports? |
| 16:40.24 | tzanger | something that has all the work done in open-source software |
| 16:40.33 | tzanger | and the card being just the physical interface |
| 16:40.38 | brettnem | tzanger: I can't find any in the actual states. |
| 16:40.47 | lehel | tzanger: fritz! card [?] |
| 16:40.48 | brettnem | er s/actual// |
| 16:41.01 | SERGEUS | tzanger, beronet? |
| 16:41.05 | tzanger | hmm |
| 16:41.08 | tzafrir_laptop | tzanger, zapbri from bristuff? |
| 16:41.15 | tzanger | yeah something like that |
| 16:41.22 | brettnem | how about a i4l isdn PRI card? anyone? |
| 16:41.34 | tzanger | that's PRI though |
| 16:41.46 | brettnem | yeah, I know.. I"m looking for those.. |
| 16:41.53 | tzafrir_laptop | does chan_modem/isdn4linux actually work for anybody? |
| 16:42.00 | brettnem | want to try out isdngw in the sems package!! |
| 16:42.29 | brettnem | isdngw looks really cool.. just makes an isdn circuit look like a sip extension basically |
| 16:42.34 | tzafrir_laptop | is isdn4linux of any use with PRI (as opposed for BRI)? |
| 16:42.54 | brettnem | yeah, I think it is.. maybe not in the context of asterisk, but in the linux world, I think so |
| 16:43.23 | lehel | i don't think so tzafrir_laptop.. i'm using the fritz! |
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| 16:44.04 | Ryvn | Good morning. |
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| 16:46.58 | heroine | have somebody experienced some problem with asterisk running on host with several network interfaces like having asterisk misfilling sdp header with a wrong address ip ? |
| 16:47.55 | brettnem | heroine: I only really see that if bind= is set in sip.conf |
| 16:48.39 | heroine | bind= in sip.conf ? |
| 16:48.56 | brettnem | that and externip |
| 16:49.09 | brettnem | exp w/nat |
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| 16:49.51 | tzanger | brettnem: may hvae just found 200 of them in north america |
| 16:51.30 | Dandre | [TK]D-Fender: I have this error message: |
| 16:51.33 | Dandre | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.43 | Dandre | Dec 7 16:51:54 WARNING[1494]: chan_sip.c:1402 create_addr: No such host: 13|s| |
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| 16:52.30 | Dandre | it seems that the parameter s is taken as part of the extension |
| 16:54.22 | drumkilla | Dandre: what version is that |
| 16:54.35 | Dandre | 1.2 |
| 16:55.26 | Dandre | If I remove the s parameter, I get |
| 16:55.27 | Dandre | Dec 7 16:54:49 WARNING[1496]: pbx.c:1294 pbx_extension_helper: No application ' |
| 16:56.09 | drumkilla | well, I actually have to go, but it looks like you should file a bug report |
| 16:56.18 | Dandre | Set' for extension (macro-appel-interne, s, 102) |
| 16:56.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandre : it doesn't add 's" |
| 16:56.46 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandre : patebin what you did |
| 16:56.51 | [TK]D-Fender | pastebin* |
| 16:57.42 | prog | please, say yes or no: is possible let users set for example vacation message with their analog phone (between analog phone is Sipura "thing", which makes such phone VoIP ) |
| 16:57.51 | tzanger | yes |
| 16:57.59 | prog | really ? :-) |
| 16:58.10 | prog | super |
| 16:58.11 | tzanger | yes of course |
| 16:58.20 | tzanger | you need to write up the dialplan to do it |
| 16:58.20 | brettnem | in voicemail, it's a temporary greeting.. seems to be working.. |
| 16:58.23 | tzanger | but certainly that's possible |
| 16:58.36 | prog | thank you both very much!!! |
| 16:58.58 | brettnem | tzanger: you'd do something in the dialplan over just using a temp greeting? |
| 16:59.20 | tzanger | brettnem: depends on what he's driving at |
| 16:59.24 | tzanger | but yeah voicemail would be far far simpler |
| 16:59.44 | brettnem | it's all kinda simple really.. heh |
| 16:59.50 | Dandre | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/32815 |
| 16:59.54 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger :no need for special dialplan.. just use voicemails "temporary" message |
| 16:59.57 | brettnem | prog: it can do anything really.. just dream it up |
| 17:00.15 | prog | they would be glad to be able to say their own message ( not depends on administrator) |
| 17:00.26 | Qwell | prog: They can change their own |
| 17:00.56 | brettnem | prog, in voicemail. 1 to change your unavailable message, 2 to change your busy message, 3 to change your name announcement, and 4 to change your temporary greeting.. I think.. |
| 17:01.07 | prog | super! |
| 17:01.11 | brettnem | however I think the temporary greeting recording quality (allison's recording) was a bit crappy |
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| 17:01.32 | prog | oh yes, its possible |
| 17:01.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandre : you should be doing the ,s and it looks like you're not on 1.2 (the set error) |
| 17:02.19 | prog | my imagination is: the dial for example 400 and some voice tell them : "after beep, say your vacation message" |
| 17:02.37 | prog | they dial |
| 17:02.46 | brettnem | prog: you can do that, but it's far simplier just to have them record it in their vm setup.. |
| 17:02.58 | prog | okej, i agree |
| 17:03.03 | brettnem | prog: really call in to check your vm, dial 0 for mailbox options.. then record a temp greeting.. |
| 17:03.07 | Dandre | How should I get the version? |
| 17:03.20 | brettnem | if you want to setup a 400 to do that, you can, but it'll require some extra dialplan logic |
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| 17:03.47 | prog | hmm, yes and it could be difficult |
| 17:04.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandre : Download from stable or SVN/CVS |
| 17:04.25 | Dandre | You are right, I thought I was on 1.2 :-( |
| 17:04.32 | iDunno | hmmm. |
| 17:04.38 | iDunno | time for a stupid question... |
| 17:04.58 | iDunno | if a SIP channel is on a call, is there a way that I can check how many lines it's using? |
| 17:05.24 | iDunno | so, say there's SIP/201, for instance... is there a nice way that I can ask it how many calls are currently on that channel |
| 17:05.27 | iDunno | ? |
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| 17:05.36 | Seldon1975 | hi |
| 17:05.37 | [TK]D-Fender | iDunno : maybe if all calls to that phone are passing though * and you script the daylights out of it... |
| 17:05.44 | [TK]D-Fender | iDunno : messy at best.... |
| 17:05.52 | brettnem | prog: it's not really difficult, just requires you to actually do something.. heh.. doing it with vm it's already a canned feature.. |
| 17:05.56 | Seldon1975 | my CentOS machine does not seem to recognise my TDM2400 card |
| 17:06.05 | brettnem | tdm2400 |
| 17:06.12 | brettnem | do you have power plugged to the card? |
| 17:06.19 | iDunno | [TK]D-Fender: oh, the calls will all head through *, I suspect that I could set up the GroupCount, and then use CheckGroup? |
| 17:06.19 | Seldon1975 | yep |
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| 17:06.32 | Seldon1975 | brettnem: yes |
| 17:06.47 | Dandre | Is there any 1.2 debian package? |
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| 17:06.54 | prog | brettnem: ok, thank you!!! |
| 17:07.16 | brettnem | prog: no problem.. figure out how to use asterisk, then get back in here and help others. :) |
| 17:07.37 | prog | be sure, of course ;-) |
| 17:07.42 | brettnem | prog: that's how you "pay" for support. :) |
| 17:07.49 | [TK]D-Fender | iDunno : depends... not sure on the finer points of those options... |
| 17:08.08 | brettnem | wasn't setgroup/checkgroup recently deprecated?! |
| 17:08.20 | brettnem | for some gotoif combination? |
| 17:08.38 | iDunno | I'm using debian stable... ;) |
| 17:08.39 | Qwell | Function |
| 17:08.41 | [TK]D-Fender | prog : it'd be faily easy to make an IVR script to do the recording and place it in the users VM folder..... |
| 17:08.52 | Qwell | Equivalent to Set(GROUP=group) |
| 17:08.53 | prog | brettnem, yes...these times are friendly in opensource heaven. Im afraid that times will change and everything will be for $$ :-( |
| 17:09.47 | Qwell | I don't think checkgroup was deprecated |
| 17:09.49 | brettnem | prog: nah, it won't. but detailed support typially will eventually cost you something.. |
| 17:09.55 | brettnem | Qwell: "The GetGroupCount application has been deprecated, please use the GROUP_COUNT function. |
| 17:10.04 | Qwell | yeah |
| 17:10.10 | brettnem | Qwell: The SetGroup application has been deprecated, please use the GROUP() function.\ |
| 17:10.10 | Seldon1975 | is there anything I can do if my card doesnt show up using lspci? |
| 17:10.17 | Qwell | checkgroup isn't though, afaik |
| 17:10.22 | brettnem | The CheckGroup application has been deprecated, please use a combination of the GotoIf application and the GROUP_COUNT() function. |
| 17:10.26 | Qwell | huh |
| 17:10.30 | prog | [TK]D-Fender, I am diving deeply in extensions.conf ... I will be asterisk guru in while :-) |
| 17:10.35 | Qwell | brettnem: brand new trunk? |
| 17:10.37 | brettnem | line 153 app_groupcount.c |
| 17:10.37 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, if the card doesn't show up in lspci then the system BIOS does not see the card. |
| 17:10.47 | brettnem | sux eh? |
| 17:10.53 | brettnem | what's the matter with these people? |
| 17:11.07 | Qwell | just didn't think he was removing stuff, unless it was already deprecated in 1.2 |
| 17:11.15 | Qwell | drumkilla: ? |
| 17:11.21 | brettnem | Qwell: this IS 1.2 that I'm referencing.. |
| 17:11.25 | Qwell | oh, odd |
| 17:11.29 | brettnem | yeah |
| 17:11.33 | [TK]D-Fender | prog : If you want to go absolutely nuts I can show you mine ;) |
| 17:11.36 | Qwell | checkgroup doesn't say that in trunk |
| 17:11.38 | brettnem | why deprecate them.. |
| 17:11.41 | brettnem | really?? |
| 17:11.44 | Seba_soy | does anybody knows IRC CHANNEL for SIPFOUNDRY? |
| 17:11.52 | Seldon1975 | manx: meaning the card is faulty? |
| 17:11.56 | brettnem | did you check app_groupcount.c for "deprecate? :) |
| 17:12.01 | Qwell | brettnem: nope |
| 17:12.08 | Qwell | I'm sick too, so I'm probably missing it :p |
| 17:12.14 | brettnem | Seba_soy: heh abandoning asterisk?? ;) good for you |
| 17:12.26 | Seba_soy | brettnem: no no |
| 17:12.34 | Seba_soy | I just want to develop a softphone |
| 17:12.36 | brettnem | Qwell: I missed it until I remember to grep with a -i |
| 17:12.40 | Seba_soy | and I want some help with SIPXTAPI |
| 17:12.47 | brettnem | Seba_soy: ahh cool |
| 17:12.48 | Seldon1975 | lspci |
| 17:12.48 | prog | [TK]D-Fender, I do not want to look as lazy man ... but it would be very great from you. If you are so kind to let me show yours I will be very glad |
| 17:12.52 | Seldon1975 | oops |
| 17:12.54 | Seldon1975 | sorry |
| 17:13.08 | [TK]D-Fender | prog : can you accepts DCC? |
| 17:13.23 | Seba_soy | so, there is not SIPFOUNDRY irc? |
| 17:13.28 | brettnem | prog: there are some great examples on the wiki.. also the sample configs are pretty good.. except there are a few totally wrong entries |
| 17:13.35 | Qwell | I'm like 100 revisions behind |
| 17:13.35 | brettnem | Seba_soy: not sure.. this is #asterisk |
| 17:13.40 | prog | [TK]D-Fender, I am not sure because of firewall, could you try it ? |
| 17:13.52 | Seba_soy | brettnem: I know, but maybe somebody knows :) |
| 17:14.06 | brettnem | :) |
| 17:14.21 | steff | hi all, anyone can help me with capi ? |
| 17:14.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandre : Oublie l'idee de trouver un emballage pour * et rammase-toi donc le vrai par SVN ou soit CVS (un peu mois a date) |
| 17:15.08 | [TK]D-Fender | prog : trying now |
| 17:15.17 | Qwell | brettnem: You'll be happy to know that the entire file is now gone in trunk :D |
| 17:15.22 | prog | brettnem, thanks. yes I have seen very good materials on wiki - I think that this product is very well documented |
| 17:15.31 | brettnem | Qwell: wtf? |
| 17:15.39 | brettnem | prog: then you are the only one.. haha |
| 17:15.41 | prog | [TK]D-Fender, hmm, it doesn`t seem to work :-( |
| 17:15.50 | [TK]D-Fender | PM your e-mail |
| 17:16.11 | Dandre | [TK]D-Fender: les paquets debian sont-ils si mauvais? |
| 17:16.33 | Qwell | brettnem: funcs/func_groupcount |
| 17:16.33 | prog | brettnem, i know :-) do not continue |
| 17:17.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandre : PLus qu'ils sont jamais a-date. vaut pas la pein de les utiliser. |
| 17:17.09 | brettnem | Qwell: well that's ok.. I'm still trying to get te hang of functions..the syntax.. |
| 17:17.16 | Qwell | brettnem: pretty easy, really |
| 17:17.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandre : MAKE = friend :) |
| 17:17.28 | Qwell | SET(mynewvar=CALLERID(name)) |
| 17:18.09 | Dandre | :-( je vais donc essayer de récuperer de quoi compiler... |
| 17:18.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : more like Set(mynewvar=${CALLERID(name)}) |
| 17:18.19 | Qwell | yes...right |
| 17:18.25 | Qwell | see above, where I mention I'm sick |
| 17:18.26 | brettnem | Qwell: see, that's the shit I always mess up.. haha |
| 17:18.40 | brettnem | I guess functions work like dynamic variables. |
| 17:18.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Dandre : 2 dossiers (* & zaptel) et 2 series do comilation. |
| 17:18.46 | Qwell | basically |
| 17:18.52 | brettnem | just have to remember that.. well not really.. see set there.. |
| 17:19.01 | [TK]D-Fender | brettnem: a fair assessment |
| 17:19.04 | Qwell | SET doesn't return a value though |
| 17:19.16 | Qwell | So, you wouldn't be able to do anything like |
| 17:19.42 | Qwell | SET(set_results=${SET(blah=${CALLERID(name)})}) |
| 17:20.02 | brettnem | not sure why I would.. but I get ya there.. |
| 17:20.03 | Qwell | at least, I don't think it does |
| 17:20.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : why should it return anything? Variables are dynamic, not declared |
| 17:21.50 | SwK[Work] | anyone have a GXP2000 and use it with a single registration |
| 17:22.16 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, off for lunch, back in 10 |
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| 17:25.21 | saftsack | hi |
| 17:26.44 | saftsack | howto enable logging with misdn? |
| 17:34.59 | KriS83 | If I have a Asterisk with 2 quadBRI Cards between the TelCo and an ISDN PBX (TelCo -> TE Mode-[Asterisk]-NT Mode -> ISDN PBX). What would I have to dial to reach a phone connected to the ISDN PBX? It's a so called "Anlagenanschluss"? |
| 17:35.40 | brettnem | wow, I didn't know word that long where legal |
| 17:35.50 | Qwell | Only outside of the US |
| 17:35.53 | brettnem | ah |
| 17:35.59 | saftsack | hi |
| 17:36.12 | KriS83 | :) |
| 17:36.14 | saftsack | is it smart do create a "main" menu into my asterisk.conf? |
| 17:36.42 | Qwell | saftsack: sure |
| 17:37.00 | saftsack | ok, i saw such a mainmenu on tkfenders asterisk.conf |
| 17:37.07 | saftsack | do you have a main menu too? |
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| 17:37.21 | Qwell | no, I don't really do IVR |
| 17:37.39 | Qwell | it can't hurt though...just depends on what you need and how you do it |
| 17:37.45 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : made my menu somewhat generic and pointed incoming calls towards it for abstraction purposes |
| 17:38.01 | saftsack | i want to to it this way: |
| 17:38.11 | [TK]D-Fender | I use a menu for "generic" incoming calls. |
| 17:38.14 | saftsack | incoming calls to mainmenu |
| 17:38.22 | saftsack | from mainmenu to the telephones |
| 17:38.25 | saftsack | and so on |
| 17:38.29 | [TK]D-Fender | You can do whatever you want though. You could have it simply ring all phones or do whatever |
| 17:38.35 | saftsack | :) |
| 17:38.37 | [TK]D-Fender | thats what it does |
| 17:38.40 | file[laptop] | [TK]D-Fender: omg ... hi |
| 17:38.42 | [TK]D-Fender | (right now) |
| 17:38.48 | [TK]D-Fender | hey file[laptop] |
| 17:38.57 | file[laptop] | what madness are you up to? |
| 17:39.11 | docelmo | I got a good question for someone where do the packets ride on H323 for DTMF outband? |
| 17:39.27 | docelmo | Are they in the signaling? |
| 17:39.36 | [TK]D-Fender | file[laptop] : Spreading my infectious dialplan :D muahahaha *cough* |
| 17:39.42 | file[laptop] | [TK]D-Fender: eeeep! |
| 17:39.58 | saftsack | what is a macro? |
| 17:40.41 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : Sorry, you'll have to read the WIKI on that. Its a context called in a way that you can pass parameteres to. |
| 17:40.50 | saftsack | ok |
| 17:40.52 | saftsack | i thought so |
| 17:40.54 | file[laptop] | my Ctrl+Apple+D says it's |
| 17:41.07 | file[laptop] | bleh |
| 17:41.12 | file[laptop] | won't copy/paste |
| 17:41.33 | [TK]D-Fender | My primary macro is a heavily modded version of a sample STDEXTEN macro for dialing extensions. |
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| 17:41.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Try Ctrl+Orange+D |
| 17:41.57 | [TK]D-Fender | ;) |
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| 17:42.40 | brettnem | [TK]D-Fender: have you seen apple's add "Lose the CTRL, get OPTIONs" :) |
| 17:43.01 | [TK]D-Fender | nope :) |
| 17:43.15 | [TK]D-Fender | brettnem : have you seen the ad for the iPod Flea? ;) |
| 17:43.23 | saftsack | can i execute different context in the same time? |
| 17:43.27 | docelmo | Is the DTMF run across the signaling path like SIP? |
| 17:43.42 | brettnem | trick question |
| 17:43.46 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : not sure I follow your question |
| 17:43.54 | saftsack | thank you :) |
| 17:45.24 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : For? |
| 17:45.39 | saftsack | i have different context in my extensions.conf |
| 17:45.47 | [TK]D-Fender | file[laptop] : Where I'm at currently - http://pastebin.ca/32817 |
| 17:45.48 | saftsack | they are for calling the telephones in my house |
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| 17:45.59 | saftsack | and i want to execute them from the mainmenu if theres an incoming call |
| 17:46.13 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : pastebin it when you're ready |
| 17:46.26 | saftsack | ok thank you :) |
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| 17:48.29 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, what is NoOp? |
| 17:48.35 | [TK]D-Fender | I have kubuntu "live" and "install" downloading and mepis to follow :D |
| 17:48.52 | [TK]D-Fender | NoOp doesn't actually do anything, it just spits stuff out to the CLI |
| 17:49.07 | saftsack | :) |
| 17:49.10 | saftsack | cool thank you |
| 17:49.25 | [TK]D-Fender | I use it for filler sometimes (to leave easy room to insert stuff) or to spit variables to the CLI so I can monitor whats going on for debugging |
| 17:49.48 | saftsack | can i specify an extra logfile where i put all the stuff i want to? (i want to have a called log) |
| 17:50.19 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : what do you want to log? |
| 17:50.30 | saftsack | the telephone number and the time |
| 17:51.08 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : well * already has CDR's, but I'm sure you could make your own custom log if you wantedrather easily |
| 17:51.29 | [TK]D-Fender | You could be so silly as to do System calls and directly "echo" into a file... |
| 17:52.01 | saftsack | would that be good? |
| 17:52.24 | *** join/#asterisk asteriskmonkey (n=phil@69.156.197.242) |
| 17:52.39 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, 5144264825 |
| 17:52.43 | saftsack | whats that for a number? :) |
| 17:52.58 | [TK]D-Fender | thats my home phone. |
| 17:53.24 | [TK]D-Fender | it is sent by my SPA-3000 when an incoming call is received. |
| 17:54.21 | iCEBrkr | oh man. |
| 17:54.27 | iCEBrkr | I just ate Chipotle |
| 17:54.36 | iCEBrkr | the whole damn burito |
| 17:54.40 | beavizd | who is Chipotle? |
| 17:54.51 | Qwell | dunno, but I bet his wife will be mad |
| 17:55.00 | beavizd | hehe :) |
| 17:55.03 | iCEBrkr | Wife? |
| 17:55.05 | iCEBrkr | Whazzat? |
| 17:55.15 | beavizd | iCEBrkr IS the wife :) |
| 17:55.19 | iCEBrkr | hey hey |
| 17:55.33 | iCEBrkr | na, I'm quite single. |
| 17:55.48 | beavizd | lucky you... |
| 17:56.13 | iCEBrkr | I was thinking unfortunate. |
| 17:56.23 | beavizd | don't think that... |
| 17:56.26 | iCEBrkr | and why won't app_machinedetect compile in 1.2.0 |
| 17:56.33 | iCEBrkr | Something changed. |
| 17:56.39 | Qwell | a lot changed |
| 17:57.02 | iCEBrkr | In file included from app_machinedetect.c:21: |
| 17:57.02 | iCEBrkr | ../include/asterisk/file.h:27:2: #error You must include stdio.h before file.h! |
| 17:57.07 | iCEBrkr | What the? |
| 17:57.09 | Qwell | Do that then |
| 17:58.04 | iCEBrkr | Shitty shitty |
| 17:58.23 | brettnem | mmmm Chipotle.. |
| 17:58.27 | iCEBrkr | Appears lots have changed. |
| 17:58.44 | Qwell | iCEBrkr: yell at the maintainers of that app |
| 17:59.09 | *** part/#asterisk Ryvn (n=B0bsomeo@206.63.83.180) |
| 18:00.12 | iCEBrkr | Qwell: Or I can just patch it myself.. Which looks like what I'll be doing anyhow |
| 18:02.47 | mutilator | damn christmas music |
| 18:03.09 | *** join/#asterisk DrDeke (i=dekemar@deculator.engin.umich.edu) |
| 18:03.54 | Seldon1975 | its begining to look a lot like xmas... |
| 18:04.00 | Seldon1975 | everywhere you go |
| 18:04.23 | DrDeke | All I want for Christmas is some cheap DIDs, some cheap DIDs, some cheap DIDs... |
| 18:04.32 | asteriskmonkey | what area code? |
| 18:04.44 | Seldon1975 | i want my TDM2400 to be recognised by my machine |
| 18:04.48 | Seldon1975 | for xmas |
| 18:04.56 | DrDeke | 734, 313, 810, 586 and so on. also +51 (1) |
| 18:05.00 | Qwell | Seldon1975: call Digium |
| 18:05.07 | asteriskmonkey | sorry no love there just have 416 |
| 18:05.11 | DrDeke | :) |
| 18:05.12 | DrDeke | oh well =) |
| 18:05.22 | DrDeke | O Canada! |
| 18:05.28 | Seldon1975 | qwell: 1-877-LINUXME doesnt work |
| 18:05.37 | Seldon1975 | qwell: you know another number? |
| 18:05.57 | iCEBrkr | 132K Dec 7 13:04 app_machinedetect.so* |
| 18:05.59 | iCEBrkr | w00t |
| 18:06.00 | Qwell | not working? |
| 18:06.00 | asteriskmonkey | yes there toll free dosnt work in canada |
| 18:06.13 | asteriskmonkey | look in the example files and use the iax free connect |
| 18:06.15 | Qwell | I have a feeling that a telephony company doesn't have a number that doesn't work :P |
| 18:06.17 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, is every call that is in the main menu answerd by asterisk? |
| 18:06.21 | asteriskmonkey | think its misery@digium.com |
| 18:06.24 | Seldon1975 | what if I dial 011-1-877... |
| 18:06.24 | saftsack | exten => s,1,Answer |
| 18:06.33 | Qwell | Seldon1975: umm...why? |
| 18:06.42 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : the main menu's first command is to answer the call <- |
| 18:07.01 | saftsack | yes |
| 18:07.02 | Seldon1975 | qwell: why what |
| 18:07.07 | Qwell | why call international? |
| 18:07.25 | saftsack | what is "answering" a call? on voip-info.org stands, that asterisk answer the call itself |
| 18:07.30 | saftsack | is that right? |
| 18:07.30 | Seldon1975 | well i thought since it doesnt work from canada... |
| 18:07.34 | Qwell | oh |
| 18:07.38 | Qwell | don't think that'd work |
| 18:07.47 | Seldon1975 | asteriskmonkey were your comments for me? |
| 18:07.56 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : yes : that means * answers the call and can then play menus, call other phones, or whatever |
| 18:08.08 | iCEBrkr | Welp, app_machinedetect compiles and loads. |
| 18:08.08 | saftsack | ok :) |
| 18:08.10 | asteriskmonkey | yes seldon |
| 18:08.50 | saftsack | [TK]D-Fender, so where are your internal telephones are called if theres an incoming phone call? |
| 18:08.51 | Seldon1975 | aha I found another number |
| 18:08.52 | Seldon1975 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.00 | Qwell | yeah |
| 18:09.36 | Seldon1975 | cool, im on |
| 18:09.46 | DrDeke | What is this that you are trying to call? :) |
| 18:09.54 | Qwell | pr0n shop |
| 18:11.22 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : look at the "include => internal-extensions" line. That gives people in the menu the ability to dial ext's in that context |
| 18:11.45 | saftsack | yes i saw the internal extensions entry |
| 18:11.53 | saftsack | so if someone calls you theres a menu for the caller? |
| 18:12.02 | KranZ | .... |
| 18:12.10 | KranZ | saftsack: you have ALOT of reading up to do |
| 18:12.18 | saftsack | KranZ, ? |
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| 18:12.46 | [TK]D-Fender | saftsack : they get the menu FIRST, at the end of which they can dial my extensions directly. |
| 18:12.59 | [TK]D-Fender | KranZ : definately. |
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| 18:13.28 | saftsack | yes i thought so, but is there a sense? :) |
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| 18:13.37 | KranZ | fender: did you use the directory app or build an ivr? |
| 18:15.14 | [TK]D-Fender | KranZ : My IVR only really tells them to dial the EXT they want or hit "0" which rings 1 ext right now. |
| 18:15.30 | [TK]D-Fender | I've used Directory before (and at work), but for my home setup is a bit much. |
| 18:15.36 | KranZ | ic |
| 18:15.49 | [TK]D-Fender | heck I used to just have a timeout lead to a dial-all script |
| 18:16.07 | [TK]D-Fender | but I decided to prolong the agony a bit and ditch telemarekters. |
| 18:16.10 | [TK]D-Fender | (etc) |
| 18:16.17 | KranZ | true |
| 18:17.14 | KranZ | what are the polycom's you're using? |
| 18:17.34 | [TK]D-Fender | KranZ : I am also going to link in other things like my DTMF test & CID playback for line diagnostics |
| 18:17.47 | [TK]D-Fender | I run 26 IP 600's and 1 601 w/ 2 ext mods |
| 18:17.52 | asteriskmonkey | aastra phones rock :) |
| 18:17.59 | KranZ | dtmf test, like saydigits as it reads them? |
| 18:18.02 | [TK]D-Fender | yup |
| 18:18.33 | [TK]D-Fender | I have a dozen line context for that. I used it once when my CSR manager said DTMF wasn't working on 1 line on our old Norstar system |
| 18:18.40 | [TK]D-Fender | turns out he was right :) |
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| 18:19.12 | KranZ | is there licensing with the polycoms? |
| 18:19.24 | Aryana | hello |
| 18:19.26 | [TK]D-Fender | aastra's look ok, but owning a PT390 I dont like the feel... |
| 18:19.47 | [TK]D-Fender | KranZ : NOPE! The reason why pound for pound are better than Cisco's :D |
| 18:20.13 | [TK]D-Fender | And Polys have a lot more functionality with the screen that Aastra's |
| 18:20.36 | *** join/#asterisk rking (n=rking@ip68-1-234-152.dl.dl.cox.net) |
| 18:20.38 | [TK]D-Fender | But Aastra's are interesting in a more budget PoE scenario.... |
| 18:20.45 | Aryana | Do any of you use Asterisk with a Mac? |
| 18:21.11 | dokhench_work | aryana, been wanting too, but my g4 is fried. |
| 18:21.18 | Aryana | ah... |
| 18:21.26 | Aryana | hoping to plague someone with questions |
| 18:21.37 | KranZ | MACs are obsolete |
| 18:21.43 | dokhench_work | plz |
| 18:21.44 | KranZ | or will be soon |
| 18:21.47 | Aryana | ah huh KranZ |
| 18:21.50 | Qwell | MAC addresses? |
| 18:21.54 | KranZ | heh |
| 18:21.55 | [TK]D-Fender | heh |
| 18:21.56 | docelmo | Mac's suck |
| 18:21.57 | Aryana | ;-P |
| 18:21.57 | KranZ | macintoshes |
| 18:21.58 | Qwell | Or, perhaps you mean Macs |
| 18:22.01 | DrDeke | KranZ: O RLY??? |
| 18:22.02 | docelmo | Mac-N-TRASH |
| 18:22.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Mac-n-toss? |
| 18:22.18 | KranZ | yeah, once Apple signed its soul to the devil |
| 18:22.21 | KranZ | (intel) |
| 18:22.29 | docelmo | haha.. |
| 18:22.32 | DrDeke | So all PCs that use Intel chips are also obsolete. |
| 18:22.35 | Aryana | jesus let's get over this religious war |
| 18:22.37 | docelmo | the only think I like about mac is the OS |
| 18:22.39 | docelmo | nothing more |
| 18:22.46 | mog_work | i have run asterisk on macos x |
| 18:22.50 | mog_work | its no different than on linux |
| 18:22.54 | Aryana | didn't realize this was a microsoft haven |
| 18:22.55 | KranZ | DrDeke: not the x86 arch? |
| 18:22.57 | mog_work | except no zaptel |
| 18:23.00 | KranZ | the PPC arch is |
| 18:23.04 | docelmo | No M$ shit here |
| 18:23.05 | Qwell | mog_work: fix zap! :P |
| 18:23.07 | docelmo | I use linux |
| 18:23.12 | [TK]D-Fender | KranZ : time & time again it seems powerpc's archetecture just not proving its worth in comparison. what was always important was Aplles control over mfg standards and the OS itself. |
| 18:23.13 | Aryana | ;-) ok |
| 18:23.27 | dokhench_work | mog_work: maybe the freebsd drivers might work with some fudging. |
| 18:23.29 | mog_work | nah i always have liked linux better tan macos x |
| 18:23.37 | mog_work | thats why my macs run gentoo.... |
| 18:23.39 | file[laptop] | Matttttttt |
| 18:23.45 | mog_work | nah freebsd drivers wont work |
| 18:23.51 | mog_work | just ask astmasters guys |
| 18:23.56 | mog_work | the userland is like freebsd |
| 18:24.00 | mog_work | the kernel |
| 18:24.04 | Aryana | Mog_work - what about H.323 |
| 18:24.06 | mog_work | aka what zaptel cares about |
| 18:24.09 | KranZ | so Aryana: I wouldnt get too deep into getting * on a Mac, b/c that chip is out |
| 18:24.10 | mog_work | totally different |
| 18:24.16 | mog_work | yeah h.323 works |
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| 18:24.42 | Aryana | hmm odd ... because i just downloaded it and I cant find any H.323 commands on the command line\ |
| 18:24.48 | docelmo | Mac on intel.. was bound to happen sooner or later.. |
| 18:25.10 | KranZ | i wish they would have sided with AMD |
| 18:25.14 | mog_work | if you build asterisk and asterisk-addons you will have h323 |
| 18:25.17 | KranZ | seems more appropriate |
| 18:25.22 | mog_work | dont rely on packages for asterisk |
| 18:25.23 | *** join/#asterisk brent21 (n=Brent21@70.88.149.221) |
| 18:25.24 | Aryana | the only thing I could thik of is that I needed to compile from source rather than installing the package |
| 18:25.24 | mog_work | they never work |
| 18:25.30 | *** join/#asterisk Goshen (n=Goshen@67-40-107-29.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 18:25.33 | brent21 | hello |
| 18:25.56 | Aryana | ah hah thanks mog_work |
| 18:26.00 | Aryana | explains a lot |
| 18:26.06 | Goshen | don't suppose there is a script to update config files to be complient with 1.2.1? |
| 18:26.06 | brent21 | does asterisk support arrays pused into variables (i'm thinking in terms of dialplan, e.g. cover all US toll free numbers, 800,877,866) |
| 18:26.09 | Aryana | I could only find SIP and IAX support |
| 18:26.20 | rking | i have a really simple dialplan that my zaptel inbound context uses to ( http://pastebin.com/452741 ) but it acts kind of crazy - when i use my handset to dial-out, it picks up the voicemail. when somebody dials in, it answers even if i pick up the line |
| 18:27.16 | DrDeke | uhh |
| 18:27.21 | saftsack | hi i want to create a direct dial. so howto determine what the caller phoned? |
| 18:27.28 | saftsack | also what he dialed |
| 18:27.49 | KranZ | rking: is that the context you have in your zapata.conf? |
| 18:28.20 | rking | KranZ: actually, my zapata.conf points to [pstnin], which just has include => voicemail and include => meetmeconf |
| 18:28.41 | brettnem | Goshen: that'd be kinda neat. |
| 18:28.44 | KranZ | you shouldnt include voicemail |
| 18:28.46 | *** join/#asterisk jahani2 (n=k@adsl-33-49-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) |
| 18:28.52 | KranZ | you dont need it |
| 18:29.11 | KranZ | in your dialplan, just call Voicemail(${EXTEN}) |
| 18:29.54 | KranZ | after a dial statement |
| 18:30.25 | Seldon1975 | im a linux neophyte and need some linuxy help |
| 18:30.30 | Seldon1975 | related to asterix tho |
| 18:30.41 | Seldon1975 | I need to install the driver for my TDM2400 |
| 18:30.45 | Seldon1975 | I think I've found it |
| 18:30.55 | Seldon1975 | would it be a .c file? |
| 18:31.00 | DrDeke | no, a .o or .ko |
| 18:31.02 | DrDeke | if this is Linux |
| 18:31.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Seldon1975 : you should just need Zaptel... |
| 18:31.16 | KranZ | you should just run the normal compile procedure for zaptel |
| 18:31.17 | Seldon1975 | hmm.. so I dont need http://asterisk.gnuinter.net/files/digium/zaptel/wctdm24xxp.c |
| 18:31.22 | DrDeke | Which module does he have to load for the TDM2400? |
| 18:31.24 | KranZ | make && make install |
| 18:31.32 | KranZ | er make; make install |
| 18:31.49 | KranZ | then modprobe wctdm24xxp |
| 18:32.09 | Seldon1975 | i spoke to support and the guy asked me if I had the driver installed (list in modprobe) |
| 18:32.18 | Seldon1975 | so I need to download this C file and compile it? |
| 18:32.29 | KranZ | Seldon1975: download zaptel |
| 18:32.38 | Seldon1975 | i have already installed zaptel |
| 18:32.53 | KranZ | the driver is included in that tarball |
| 18:33.00 | Qwell | Seldon1975: modprobe tdm2400 |
| 18:33.08 | Qwell | Seldon1975: modprobe wctdm24xxp |
| 18:33.11 | Qwell | sorry |
| 18:33.14 | rking | KranZ: i don't know if i understand |
| 18:33.43 | KranZ | rking: why do you have a voicemail context? |
| 18:34.12 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : pastebin your entire extensions.conf & zapata.conf <- |
| 18:34.15 | rking | KranZ: i was thinking i'd make it work for iax |
| 18:34.19 | rking | k |
| 18:34.20 | *** part/#asterisk brent21 (n=Brent21@70.88.149.221) |
| 18:34.31 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : that has nothing to do with IAX... |
| 18:34.37 | KranZ | rking: something like that should be a macro anyways |
| 18:35.17 | rking | zapata.conf: http://rafb.net/paste/results/UxhqYq83.txt |
| 18:35.19 | kuku5 | PRI got event: HDLC |
| 18:35.19 | kuku5 | Abort (6) on Primary D-channel of span 1 |
| 18:35.21 | Seldon1975 | im in the Zaptel src folder |
| 18:35.24 | kuku5 | What does this mean ? |
| 18:35.29 | Seldon1975 | theres no wctdm file |
| 18:35.31 | rking | extensions.conf: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RhRsBk57.txt |
| 18:35.33 | Qwell | Seldon1975: doesn't matter where you are when you run the command. |
| 18:35.37 | Qwell | Do you have zaptel installed? |
| 18:35.41 | KranZ | kuku5: means you need to move your card to a different slot |
| 18:35.42 | Seldon1975 | only a bunch of wct1.. wct4.. etc |
| 18:35.49 | Seldon1975 | yes, zaptel is installed |
| 18:35.50 | [TK]D-Fender | OMG |
| 18:35.53 | Qwell | What version? |
| 18:35.56 | kuku5 | kranZ: why is that ? |
| 18:35.58 | file[laptop] | how old is your zaptel? |
| 18:36.03 | Qwell | If you say anything less than 1.2, I'm gonna smack you. :) |
| 18:36.06 | KranZ | you're having interrupt issues |
| 18:36.07 | Seldon1975 | i got it from CVS yesterday |
| 18:36.14 | Seldon1975 | heh |
| 18:36.15 | Qwell | cvs head? |
| 18:36.20 | kuku5 | KranZ: is that what it means ? fuck |
| 18:36.27 | KranZ | something like your harddisk is robbing bus bandwidth from your card |
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| 18:36.29 | Qwell | then just type `modprobe wctdm4xxp` |
| 18:36.31 | kuku5 | KranZL: I have a 3ware card next to it |
| 18:36.42 | Qwell | bah |
| 18:36.45 | Qwell | wctdm24xxp |
| 18:36.46 | Seldon1975 | i presume it was HEAD I didnt specify a branch |
| 18:36.53 | kuku5 | KranZ; But at 2 AM ? |
| 18:36.58 | KranZ | kuku5: run "hdparm -Tt /dev/sda" and see if you get more of those errors |
| 18:37.00 | KranZ | yes |
| 18:37.04 | KranZ | i had that prob |
| 18:37.10 | Seldon1975 | wctdm24xxp isnt in there |
| 18:37.15 | kuku5 | did you just swap spots? |
| 18:37.16 | Qwell | Seldon1975: Did you type it? |
| 18:37.35 | KranZ | had to get a sata card (same chipset as onboard sata) to move my HDs off the same bus as my te4xxp |
| 18:37.44 | Seldon1975 | yes |
| 18:37.47 | Qwell | and? |
| 18:38.07 | KranZ | kuku5: i couldnt swap b/c i have only 1 32bit port, so the sata card was the option |
| 18:38.15 | Seldon1975 | Qwell: FATAL: Module wctdm24xxp not found |
| 18:38.24 | KranZ | kuku5: b/c my one 32bit pci slot was on the same bus as my onboard sata |
| 18:38.29 | Qwell | are you sure you ran make install? |
| 18:38.37 | kuku5 | kranz:that didnt cause any errors |
| 18:38.46 | Seldon1975 | yeah, zaptel is installed in my /etc/ folder |
| 18:38.51 | KranZ | do you have any IDE drives? |
| 18:38.55 | kuku5 | no |
| 18:38.58 | kuku5 | Its sata |
| 18:39.00 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : that setup is a serious mess... nearly unreadable |
| 18:39.11 | Qwell | Seldon1975: Then you don't have a new enough version of zaptel |
| 18:39.12 | kuku5 | kranz: sata raid - 3ware |
| 18:39.13 | kuku5 | raid 1 |
| 18:39.15 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : trim off the 20 tons of excess and lets get down to business |
| 18:39.20 | KranZ | kuku5 what Mobo? |
| 18:39.26 | kuku5 | hp server mobo |
| 18:39.45 | Seldon1975 | oops |
| 18:39.46 | KranZ | your onboard lan could also be an issue |
| 18:39.48 | Seldon1975 | Qwell |
| 18:39.52 | rking | [TK]D-Fender: sure thing - sorry about that - i had been leaving the default junk in because i figured i'd read it at some point - i should just copy it out of the way though |
| 18:39.53 | Seldon1975 | you're gonna slap me |
| 18:39.53 | kuku5 | ML110 |
| 18:40.01 | Qwell | Yes, I probably am |
| 18:40.13 | KranZ | kuku5: do you have a spare onboard nic? |
| 18:40.18 | kuku5 | no |
| 18:40.19 | Qwell | and I do believe I said "smack" |
| 18:40.21 | kuku5 | its a single |
| 18:40.26 | Seldon1975 | qwell: to checkout Zaptel i used the command: |
| 18:40.28 | Seldon1975 | cvs checkout -r v1-0 zaptel libpri asterisk asterisk-sounds |
| 18:40.39 | KranZ | kuku5: is it possible for you to move the pri card to a different slow? |
| 18:40.44 | KranZ | slot |
| 18:41.22 | KranZ | kuku5: or even swap it with the 3ware since that hdparm test had no effect |
| 18:41.27 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : Flush them both. They should be VERY small considering what you are trying to do... |
| 18:42.20 | KranZ | kuku5: also, make sure your spans are set to get timing from the telco |
| 18:42.56 | KranZ | kuku5: span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs |
| 18:43.05 | Seldon1975 | qwell: ok Im gonna start from scratch |
| 18:43.17 | Qwell | use subversion instead of cvs too |
| 18:43.25 | Seldon1975 | qwell: ok, ta |
| 18:43.35 | Seldon1975 | qwell: im running CentOS is that the best? |
| 18:43.36 | Goshen | Glad you figured it out Last :) |
| 18:43.42 | Qwell | whatever works for you |
| 18:43.49 | kuku5 | ok - will do |
| 18:44.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Slackware has had 100% success with me! Then again.. I *like* pain (obviously) |
| 18:45.15 | rking | trimmed zapata.conf: http://rafb.net/paste/results/nUaiZM84.txt extensions.conf: http://rafb.net/paste/results/7Id07H48.txt |
| 18:45.59 | Seldon1975 | should I checkout specific 'stable' versions of zaptel, libpri, asterisk |
| 18:46.13 | Seldon1975 | asterisk 1.2 I presume? |
| 18:46.20 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : lloks like it waits 7 seconds, then answers |
| 18:46.27 | Qwell | Seldon1975: tags/1.2.1 or trunk |
| 18:46.44 | Seldon1975 | thx, and for Zaptel |
| 18:46.45 | Seldon1975 | ? |
| 18:46.49 | Qwell | And...unless you have a PRI, you don't need libpri |
| 18:46.51 | rking | [TK]D-Fender: yeah - i need to make that conditional somehow |
| 18:46.52 | Qwell | same |
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| 18:47.08 | Seldon1975 | oh ok - their versions are in parallell? |
| 18:47.19 | Qwell | usually |
| 18:48.45 | [TK]D-Fender | rking condition on what? |
| 18:48.54 | rking | [TK]D-Fender: on whether i picked up the phone or not |
| 18:49.28 | [TK]D-Fender | and running like that if you pick upright away it still answers? |
| 18:50.03 | KranZ | what's the subversion command to checkout 1.2.1 |
| 18:50.27 | rking | [TK]D-Fender: yep - and, strangely, it also does this even if i dial out |
| 18:51.09 | [TK]D-Fender | rking Dial out from what? |
| 18:51.10 | Seldon1975 | Kranz: i preume its: svn checkout -r tags/1.2.1 zaptel libpri asterisk asterisk-sounds |
| 18:51.14 | rking | [TK]D-Fender: from my handset |
| 18:51.20 | Seldon1975 | is that right qwell? |
| 18:51.27 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : what kind.... plugged how.,... |
| 18:51.34 | rking | [TK]D-Fender: so, i have a normal phone plugged into the zaptel card |
| 18:51.46 | rking | line in => zaptel => phone out => phone |
| 18:51.47 | KranZ | i've never used svn so i have no clue |
| 18:52.25 | [TK]D-Fender | so the phone is plugged right onto your analog line and not inot * in any real way? |
| 18:52.40 | rking | KranZ: you have to know the repo address... it'll look something like: svn co http://bumblemmble/something/tags/1.2.1 |
| 18:52.58 | rking | [TK]D-Fender: the phone is plugged into the card |
| 18:53.07 | KranZ | k |
| 18:53.15 | Qwell | Seldon1975: no |
| 18:53.23 | Seldon1975 | oh |
| 18:54.13 | Seldon1975 | qwell could you tell us? |
| 18:54.19 | KranZ | Qwell: enlighten me on checking out 1.2.1 with svn |
| 18:54.33 | Qwell | for i in libpri zaptel asterisk asterisk-sounds; do svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/$i/tags/1.2.1/ $i; done |
| 18:54.33 | Seldon1975 | please |
| 18:55.20 | KranZ | thx |
| 18:55.49 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : how are both the phone & line both on the car with only 1 port? |
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| 18:57.46 | Seldon1975 | thanks qwell |
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| 18:59.17 | blitzrage | Qwell: neato :) |
| 19:00.16 | Qwell | blitzrage: eh? |
| 19:00.22 | Qwell | You like my scripted goodness? |
| 19:00.25 | blitzrage | Qwell: yah :) |
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| 19:00.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : do share :) |
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| 19:00.58 | Qwell | just did |
| 19:01.24 | Primer | parse_srv: SRV mapped to host fwd.pulver.com, port 5060 over and over and over in my console...how the hell can I omit that particular message, but retain the same logging level? |
| 19:01.27 | [TK]D-Fender | AH |
| 19:01.42 | Qwell | Primer: use the source |
| 19:01.48 | Primer | other than that |
| 19:01.58 | Qwell | pay somebody to use the source? |
| 19:02.03 | Primer | other than that |
| 19:02.16 | Qwell | don't use SRV |
| 19:02.26 | Primer | heh |
| 19:02.37 | rking | [TK]D-Fender: it has an in and out port, just like a modem would |
| 19:02.38 | Qwell | starting to see a pattern? |
| 19:02.48 | Qwell | rking: That is a failover port. What are you trying to do with it? |
| 19:03.10 | Qwell | assuming you're talking about an x100p |
| 19:03.13 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : you on an X100? |
| 19:03.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Don't use the other jack.... |
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| 19:04.08 | *** topic/#asterisk by drumkilla -> Asterisk 1.2.1 has been released! -//- http://www.asterisk.org |
| 19:04.19 | rking | i'm just trying to use it as a) an answering machine, b) a dial-in for people who can't use iax |
| 19:04.20 | Primer | Qwell: thing is, it seems that it's doing this on every re-registry against pulver |
| 19:04.26 | Primer | Qwell: surely that's excesssive? |
| 19:04.47 | Qwell | not really |
| 19:04.53 | Qwell | What if the srv changes? |
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| 19:05.09 | rking | i use the wcfxo driver... i'm looking up what card it is |
| 19:05.16 | rking | on the back it says, "line", "phone" |
| 19:05.27 | Qwell | It's an x100p. |
| 19:05.29 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : put a splitter before the X100 then. |
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| 19:05.36 | Qwell | splitter? |
| 19:05.38 | Qwell | buy an fxs |
| 19:05.43 | rking | ahh, ok |
| 19:05.57 | Primer | Qwell: hrmm, I suppose... |
| 19:06.03 | Qwell | asterisk expects to own the line if it's plugged in |
| 19:06.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : he doesn't WANT an FXS. he wants to use it as an answering machine only. |
| 19:06.09 | Primer | how does one see what the debug level is set to from the console? |
| 19:06.14 | Qwell | buy an answering machine |
| 19:06.23 | Qwell | cheaper than a $1000 asterisk box, surely |
| 19:06.24 | rking | so then, when someone calls and i pickup the handset, at that point * has no way of grabbing the call, right? |
| 19:06.32 | rking | Qwell: well, it's my desktop box |
| 19:06.38 | Qwell | rking: Sure, if you can pickup immediately, before * answers |
| 19:06.48 | Qwell | (which will happen immediately upon ringing) |
| 19:07.03 | Qwell | and, it'll still try |
| 19:07.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : my box nice as it is was a lot cheaper, and I use mine as my NAT gateway, media server (HDTV), general file server,.... oh and * :) |
| 19:07.26 | rking | Qwell: why won't the Wait,7 before the Answer prevent it from answering? |
| 19:07.42 | Qwell | then as soon as the 7 seconds are up...guess what happens? |
| 19:07.49 | rking | that's what i want, though |
| 19:07.53 | rking | oh, wait |
| 19:07.58 | Qwell | You want asterisk to steal your call after 7 seconds? |
| 19:08.00 | rking | only if i haven't picked up the line. =) |
| 19:08.01 | rking | right |
| 19:08.05 | Qwell | buy an fxs |
| 19:08.10 | rking | ahh, ok |
| 19:08.16 | asteriskmonkey | no buy an fxo |
| 19:08.21 | rking | i have an fxo |
| 19:08.22 | Qwell | he has an fxo |
| 19:08.37 | asteriskmonkey | sorry was intentionally being confusing |
| 19:09.13 | rking | ok, i gotcha |
| 19:09.25 | rking | then i'd run the fxs to the phone, and the fxo to the wall |
| 19:09.29 | Qwell | line>fxo>asterisk>(note)>fxs>phone |
| 19:09.44 | Qwell | *note: if you don't answer the phone on the fxs, then asterisk can go to vm |
| 19:10.03 | rking | k |
| 19:11.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : I'm sure he wants to be able to answer on ANY other phone in his place.... not just the one on FXS... |
| 19:11.23 | Qwell | so connect them all to the fxs, or buy multiple fxs if the ren is no good |
| 19:11.29 | rking | [TK]D-Fender: actually, i just use one cordless phone for everything |
| 19:11.35 | Qwell | there you go then |
| 19:11.46 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : Any problems letting * run 24/7? |
| 19:11.50 | rking | this is obviously overkill - but i'm trying to learn this stuff |
| 19:12.03 | rking | [TK]D-Fender: nope - this is a linux box that is stable |
| 19:12.09 | [TK]D-Fender | And left on all the time? |
| 19:12.12 | mog_work | no |
| 19:12.12 | asteriskmonkey | are you using a t400? |
| 19:12.19 | rking | yep |
| 19:12.29 | asteriskmonkey | sweet single fxo/fxs ? |
| 19:12.37 | Qwell | t400? |
| 19:12.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Ok, get an fxs :) (I'd suggest PAP2-NA or SPA-2000 |
| 19:12.40 | Qwell | Thats a T1 card |
| 19:12.41 | asteriskmonkey | tdm400 |
| 19:12.55 | [TK]D-Fender | or SPA-2002 whatever you can get cheapest. |
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| 19:13.22 | asteriskmonkey | the tdm400 is not a t1 card |
| 19:13.30 | Qwell | the t400 is |
| 19:13.40 | asteriskmonkey | http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=product_detail&category=hardware&product=TDM400P |
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| 19:13.46 | asteriskmonkey | my bad for typo |
| 19:14.57 | lehel | wow aerobic strip with c. electra;) not bad:P |
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| 19:16.32 | Qwell | god damnit, freaking adelphia |
| 19:16.49 | rking | so fxs's are always external boxes? |
| 19:16.59 | Qwell | they think that just because my callerid is from PR, that they should speak spanish to me, and yell at me to call a different number |
| 19:17.39 | Qwell | rking: no |
| 19:17.47 | Qwell | rking: the tdm400p is a pci card |
| 19:17.48 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : no, there are 2 digium cards, but would be disproportionately expensive for your need. |
| 19:19.54 | [TK]D-Fender | a TDM400P + 1FXS = 140$SUSD +/-. You can get a 2 port FXS ATA for at most 80$USD |
| 19:21.24 | jpablo | is there any way to create a peer that would match anything coming from a ip ? (i.e no matter what port ? someting like port = dynamic ...) |
| 19:22.09 | rking | jpablo: i've never heard of such a thing... i'm interested... what's it for? |
| 19:23.10 | jpablo | rking, well, i have a cisco 2621 as a pri bridge. it seems to use randoms ports or something. |
| 19:23.47 | [TK]D-Fender | random ports for WHAT? |
| 19:23.48 | jpablo | i want to send it's call to other context, so i need to match a peer to it |
| 19:24.01 | jpablo | [TK]D-Fender, originating sip port |
| 19:24.10 | rking | hrm... well, sometimes ports are negotiated... like in IRC DCC, one client says, "hey, i have Xyz port open" then the other one connects to that port... but i do't know what's going on for you. |
| 19:24.11 | [TK]D-Fender | :/ |
| 19:24.33 | jpablo | right now it is 56604, latter it was something else |
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| 19:24.39 | jpablo | before it was something else |
| 19:25.07 | jpablo | if i do an sip debug i get can't find peer for XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:PORT and then i need to change the port |
| 19:25.14 | rking | i must be misunderstanding something.. why couldn't the FXO card tell the difference between a ringing line and an open line? |
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| 19:26.07 | rking | just sit there and pass the rings through until it gets to a certain count, then kick in... as opposed to just blindly observing activity on the line and picking up the line |
| 19:26.09 | Jesster | how do i send a fax from asterisk using txfax? I have a .tif file i want faxed to another number. |
| 19:26.12 | mariopang | hi all |
| 19:27.10 | mariopang | i have a problem with my musiconhold |
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| 19:28.13 | rking | Jesster: does this help?: http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2004/03/28/faxing-with-asterisk |
| 19:28.17 | mariopang | i put in my conf musiconhold rock => quietmp3:/var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3/rock |
| 19:28.27 | Darwin35 | app_rxfax.c: In function `rxfax_exec': |
| 19:28.28 | Darwin35 | app_rxfax.c:267: error: structure has no member named `logging' |
| 19:28.28 | Darwin35 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.37 | Darwin35 | I get this on building with fax |
| 19:29.02 | mariopang | but when put in my extension custom 100,2,MusicOnHold(rock) not sound ;( |
| 19:29.03 | Jesster | rking: not really, article is focused on receiving faxes to asterisk, i want opposite. |
| 19:29.04 | Darwin35 | is there a fix I cant find any thing on it |
| 19:29.44 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : think the problem is the phone port on that card... not sure it works like you might expect which is why I suggested putting it on a splitter |
| 19:30.02 | mariopang | but if i put 100,2,MusicOnHold(default) execute default songs my version of asterisk is 1.9 |
| 19:30.03 | rbd | hey guys, if I wanted a way to automatically dial out via SIP and dynamically wait, play a DTMF digit (based on a certain custom call flow script that I parsed..basically interact with a remote IVR system) , would AGI probably be the best way to go? |
| 19:30.11 | mariopang | sorry 1.0.9 |
| 19:30.27 | rking | [TK]D-Fender: but * would still have to know to wait 7 seconds, then /if it's still ringing/, pick up |
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| 19:31.24 | Darwin35 | any help with the fax build issue on 1.2.1-r |
| 19:31.44 | graphyx | What command for the dialplan can I use to receive a number entered in on the touch tone phone? |
| 19:32.15 | graphyx | I am trying to use that info to initiate an authenticated softhangup of the indicated channe.. |
| 19:32.42 | rking | Jesster: what about the stuff about txfax on http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+fax |
| 19:33.11 | rking | graphyx: when you dial a number, it interprets that as an extension in that context |
| 19:33.34 | graphyx | The intent is this. |
| 19:33.59 | Jesster | rking: i'll check that out, thanks |
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| 19:36.00 | Holos | Awe man.. I just compiled 1.2.0 lastnight, now I have to upgrade again :) |
| 19:36.38 | Holos | Can anyone tell me how to increase the verbosity of logging in asterisk? I want to log more information to the hard written log files that exist in /var/log/asterisk, not the console. |
| 19:36.47 | justinu | check logger.conf |
| 19:38.22 | KranZ | graphyx: or read() |
| 19:38.32 | KranZ | graphyx: lookup read on voip-info.org |
| 19:38.35 | graphyx | ok |
| 19:39.46 | KranZ | i need a filter for the cli so i dont get everything at once when i'm only watching an extension |
| 19:40.31 | KranZ | one for pri dump would be nice also... per channel or per ani |
| 19:41.09 | jpablo | Holos, logger.conf ... |
| 19:42.28 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : in the case I described, it should wait 7 seconds and if its not ringing anymore it should ahng up... |
| 19:43.02 | rking | [TK]D-Fender: k |
| 19:43.15 | rking | so an fxs isn't really needed at this point, right? |
| 19:43.20 | rking | just a little splitter? |
| 19:44.21 | [TK]D-Fender | rking : lets just say you're missing out big if you're not anyways.... |
| 19:44.28 | [TK]D-Fender | but it would work I'm sure |
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| 19:45.32 | Jesster | rking: thanks a lot, my problem was not the dial plan, but I was missing the .call file I needed :) |
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| 19:48.43 | LeeColleton | Is there a separate channel for Asterisk@Home ? |
| 19:49.05 | Qwell | amportal does |
| 19:50.54 | denon | LeeColleton: there used to be, but nobody's in there anymore |
| 19:51.02 | ManxPower | Darwin35, Dunno what your problem is, it worked for me in 1.0.9 and 1.2 |
| 19:51.12 | Qwell | denon: wonder why, eh? ;] |
| 19:51.46 | Darwin35 | I am 1.2.1-r |
| 19:51.49 | Darwin35 | hmmm |
| 19:52.05 | iCEBrkr | I cannot believe a bunch of opensource 'hacks' can write an interface to PRI while a comercial company has failed for the past 2yrs. |
| 19:52.17 | iCEBrkr | UNbelievable. |
| 19:52.22 | Qwell | iCEBrkr: how so? |
| 19:52.45 | Qwell | are commercial developers and open source developers not all just people? |
| 19:53.05 | justinu | digium fails because a 19 year old kid who doesn't feel like reading Q931 is in charge of PRI code |
| 19:53.10 | iCEBrkr | Qwell: We're in the business of customer satisfaction surveys and one of our clients does IVR. We use this PoS software that we pay LOTS of money for and it won't work with PRI |
| 19:53.17 | denon | Qwell: yeah I dunno, they've got kind of a cool idea brewin there |
| 19:53.28 | KranZ | anyone experiences a situation where a caller ->pri[asterisk]sip->sip user, provides no ringback? |
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| 19:53.34 | iCEBrkr | Qwell: I dunno, I think people like you and me have more drive |
| 19:53.35 | KranZ | er experienced |
| 19:53.48 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: some company decisions are marketing strategies |
| 19:53.51 | denon | hey brian |
| 19:54.13 | iCEBrkr | fugitivo: I just talked to a developer, he claims they've been trying to get it to work for the past 2yrs. I will not make outbound calls only accept inbound. |
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| 19:54.49 | iCEBrkr | Qwell: you'd think if you paid $50k for a phone system/dialer it'd work, ya know? |
| 19:54.59 | Qwell | iCEBrkr: since when? |
| 19:55.05 | fugitivo | iCEBrkr: that sounds like the hp psc series printers that don't work over network |
| 19:55.16 | iCEBrkr | lol |
| 19:55.33 | iCEBrkr | Qwell: Oh, I'm sorry, apparently I have higher expectations for 'commercial' software |
| 19:55.42 | Qwell | What are you, new? |
| 19:55.47 | iCEBrkr | I guess so |
| 19:56.06 | Qwell | the more you spend, the less it works |
| 19:56.13 | fugitivo | usually, commercial programmers, just code the hours they're paid for and never touch code after that |
| 19:56.13 | denon | iCEBrkr: you're right in thinking what you do, but it simply means you didn't properly evaluate and test the product before purchasing |
| 19:56.14 | iCEBrkr | haha Apparently. |
| 19:56.19 | denon | I'd say that's not so much their fault, as yours |
| 19:56.30 | fugitivo | open source programmers program a lot more, that's more experience |
| 19:56.32 | Qwell | denon: touche |
| 19:56.33 | iCEBrkr | denon: yea, and unfortunately, I wasn't around when all of this went down. |
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| 19:56.51 | Qwell | denon must work in marketing... :) |
| 19:57.09 | denon | open source devs also tend to have the attitude that anything they do is above and beyond, whereas commercial devs have a hierarchy/chain of command to answer to .. |
| 19:57.18 | iCEBrkr | Qwell: No, he has a good point. |
| 19:57.26 | Qwell | of course he does |
| 19:57.30 | iCEBrkr | :) |
| 19:57.31 | denon | obviously not always, but it often does lead to a better quality of code |
| 19:58.18 | iCEBrkr | It just sucks. This company has made bad business decisions one after another because the people in charge didn't do their homework. |
| 19:58.19 | denon | course since I'm here now .. that shows I believe it works both ways. :) |
| 19:58.42 | Qwell | denon: both ways? |
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| 19:59.31 | denon | yeah, both ways. open source stuff is often half-baked, and open source stuff is often very polished. |
| 19:59.41 | denon | look at sourceforge and tell me that all open source stuff is refined |
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| 19:59.45 | Qwell | ahh, right |
| 19:59.50 | denon | half that crap doesnt even have the description finished, much less the code |
| 19:59.51 | Seldon1975 | Qwell: can I bug you for 1 sec |
| 19:59.54 | denon | vaporware |
| 19:59.59 | Seldon1975 | i now have a clean build of zaptel |
| 20:00.03 | Qwell | Seldon1975: not via msg |
| 20:00.09 | Seldon1975 | no thats ok |
| 20:00.10 | Qwell | (unless you've got money for me) |
| 20:00.15 | Seldon1975 | I have done a make install |
| 20:00.21 | fugitivo | denon: that's right, but good opensource, is good :) |
| 20:00.23 | Qwell | now run that modprobe |
| 20:00.36 | Seldon1975 | and I have wctdm24xxp.mod.o and wctdm24xxp.o |
| 20:00.39 | denon | fugitivo: sure its good, I just don't believe it always lends itself to being any better |
| 20:00.41 | Seldon1975 | on which |
| 20:00.43 | Qwell | modprobe wctdm24xxp |
| 20:00.45 | Seldon1975 | ok |
| 20:00.46 | denon | and often it enables the devs to be worse. |
| 20:00.59 | Seldon1975 | ooo |
| 20:01.11 | Seldon1975 | nice |
| 20:01.14 | Qwell | denon: So does politics, and line count driven dev |
| 20:01.25 | iCEBrkr | denon: Obviously opensource warez aren't all that and a bag of chips. I just find it odd how there's devs like you and me who hack at hardware and make it work while some commerical company who has the money to actually go out and buy an SDK and pay for support can't get something working |
| 20:01.44 | DrDeke | Especially, I might add, when the company expects you to PAY THEM MONEY for the product! |
| 20:01.51 | Qwell | iCEBrkr: oftentimes, companies hire the cheapest, crappiest devs they can find |
| 20:01.59 | fugitivo | denon: we don't have the source of closed commercial programs, so we don't know if it's true that commercial programs are better developed |
| 20:02.19 | denon | fugitivo: I'd say most time that can be gauged by performance, reliability and results |
| 20:02.22 | iCEBrkr | Qwell: That's good, cuz I wouldn't have a job! :D |
| 20:02.24 | denon | not necessarily just code quality |
| 20:02.29 | Seldon1975 | qwell: it listed the ports ok but at the end it said: line 0: Unable to open mater device '/dev/zap/ctl' |
| 20:02.44 | Qwell | Seldon1975: Did you read README.udev like it told you to during make install? |
| 20:03.06 | fugitivo | denon: like linux vs windows, apache vs iis, asterisk vs ...? |
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| 20:03.13 | Seldon1975 | qwell: erm.. kinda. I just have to go to the bathroom |
| 20:03.16 | Seldon1975 | brb |
| 20:03.33 | Seldon1975 | is that file in Zaptel or Asterisk |
| 20:03.42 | denon | fugitivo: kinda yeah, in some cases IIS blows apache away .. in other cases apache blows others away .. and in most cases, thttpd blows all of the above away :) |
| 20:03.49 | dokhench_work | any idea why a ztcfg would give me a "ZT_SPANCONFIG failed on span 1: Invalid argument (22)" when the card is a te110p and the only mods loaded are crc-ccitt, zaptel, wctdm, and wcte11xp? |
| 20:03.55 | brookshire | umm.. IIS always blows |
| 20:04.04 | fugitivo | no no |
| 20:04.07 | fugitivo | IIS SUCKS |
| 20:04.09 | fugitivo | :) |
| 20:04.23 | fourcheeze | no shit |
| 20:04.28 | fugitivo | well, mysql sucks |
| 20:04.31 | fugitivo | and it's opensource |
| 20:04.39 | fourcheeze | why does mysql suck? |
| 20:04.40 | fugitivo | i like mssql |
| 20:04.45 | fugitivo | and it's closed source |
| 20:04.49 | denon | mssql 2k5 is wicked fast |
| 20:04.51 | DrDeke | So? Oracle sucks and it's closed source :) |
| 20:04.57 | brookshire | mysql is great :) |
| 20:05.00 | Qwell | You've obviously never had to do anything admining mssql, if you like it at all |
| 20:05.01 | fourcheeze | mysql is good at what it's good at |
| 20:05.13 | brettnem | mysql is great if you want a broken database that is easy to setup |
| 20:05.14 | webmind | mssql ? |
| 20:05.16 | denon | Qwell: I've run clusters of mssql since 6.0 on nt 3.51 |
| 20:05.20 | webmind | isnt that a typo ? |
| 20:05.22 | fugitivo | Qwell: i did, i like it |
| 20:05.30 | Seldon1975 | brett why is MySql broken? |
| 20:05.31 | denon | I used to like oracle a lot .. but now there's really no reason imho |
| 20:05.43 | fugitivo | yea, let's the war begin |
| 20:05.45 | denon | between PostgreSQL and MSSQL 2k5, that's all I need |
| 20:05.46 | webmind | postres is nice imho :) |
| 20:05.50 | brettnem | oh someone send me the link.... where is it |
| 20:05.50 | denon | but lets not have another db war |
| 20:05.53 | denon | these get old fast |
| 20:05.56 | fugitivo | postgresql IS the opensource db |
| 20:05.58 | webmind | hehe |
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| 20:06.07 | ctooley | hello |
| 20:06.15 | webmind | hi |
| 20:06.21 | Seldon1975 | i'm really interested why you would say MySql is broken tho |
| 20:06.32 | fugitivo | Seldon1975: it's not a real database |
| 20:06.41 | DrDeke | In what way is it not a "real" database? |
| 20:06.42 | denon | take it to privmsg .. |
| 20:06.43 | fugitivo | Seldon1975: if you do complex applications, you can't use mysql |
| 20:06.44 | Seldon1975 | define 'real' in 10 words or less |
| 20:06.46 | denon | we have this conversation way too often |
| 20:06.52 | DrDeke | heh, ok |
| 20:06.54 | Seldon1975 | ok |
| 20:06.55 | brettnem | Seldon1975: http://sql-info.de/mysql/gotchas.html |
| 20:07.04 | brookshire | fugitivo: sure you can! |
| 20:07.05 | brookshire | :) |
| 20:07.09 | fugitivo | mysql is just... popular |
| 20:07.15 | brettnem | they are serious issues that most (noobs) people don't care about. |
| 20:07.31 | brettnem | it is popular.. it's easy.. heck I use it in some places too.. but.. well it kinda sucks |
| 20:07.34 | Juggie | brettnem, theres a list for postresql as well |
| 20:07.37 | Qwell | brettnem: show me one that's updated for 5.0 |
| 20:07.39 | Juggie | and sql5 is alot better |
| 20:07.40 | justinu | mysql is craptastic |
| 20:07.51 | Seldon1975 | what about pgsql |
| 20:07.52 | brettnem | haha |
| 20:08.05 | brettnem | pgsql is much closer to how a DB should work.. my opinion.. |
| 20:08.08 | Seldon1975 | does any one know any large companies using pgsql? |
| 20:08.09 | Nugget | mysql is miserable. |
| 20:08.25 | Nugget | mysql is the microsoft windows of databases. |
| 20:08.26 | fugitivo | Qwell: the thing is... mysql 5 is new, i stopped using mysql on version... hell, i don't remember it |
| 20:08.34 | fourcheeze | Seldon1975: define 'large' |
| 20:08.35 | brettnem | Ah there's nugget! I was waiting for that |
| 20:08.42 | brettnem | haha |
| 20:08.43 | DrDeke | hehe |
| 20:08.55 | fugitivo | why people doesn't move to postgresql? it's opensource too, and it's a real database :) |
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| 20:09.09 | Seldon1975 | fourcheese: >50 employees |
| 20:09.18 | brettnem | fugitivo: it's a "little" harder to setup and use |
| 20:09.24 | fugitivo | brettnem: nah |
| 20:09.27 | diclophis | hello all |
| 20:09.29 | synthetiq | why do people say mysql is not a real db |
| 20:09.37 | fourcheeze | Seldon1975: that's not large |
| 20:09.42 | fugitivo | brettnem: pgadmin3 is great, mysql doesn't have that, just a crappy webmin |
| 20:09.44 | brettnem | fugitivo: it requires a stricter syntax.. which is [one reason] why mysql is broken. |
| 20:09.45 | diclophis | is there a service somewhere to lookup available toll free numbers? |
| 20:09.50 | Seldon1975 | fourcheese: you asked ME to define it |
| 20:09.53 | Seldon1975 | dont dissemble |
| 20:09.56 | fourcheeze | Seldon1975: :-) |
| 20:10.08 | fourcheeze | Seldon1975: ok, well a customer of ours has more than 50 employees and uses pgsql |
| 20:10.11 | brettnem | fugitivo: phpMyAdmin is decent actually... for a broken database.. :) |
| 20:10.17 | fugitivo | lol |
| 20:10.23 | Qwell | phpMyAdmin is worse than amp |
| 20:10.27 | iCEBrkr | The term 'real database' is irrelivent. Each does what it's supposed to do. I think the correct term would be 'broken SQL' |
| 20:10.30 | Seldon1975 | four: is is a commercial app? |
| 20:10.42 | Seldon1975 | can you name them |
| 20:10.43 | fourcheeze | it's a web application |
| 20:10.44 | Seldon1975 | and the app |
| 20:10.47 | fourcheeze | no |
| 20:10.53 | Seldon1975 | darn |
| 20:10.57 | Juggie | you know mysql is open source your free to submit patches :P |
| 20:10.58 | brettnem | hahaha worse than amp.. :) |
| 20:10.58 | fourcheeze | it's nothing to do with voip |
| 20:11.02 | fourcheeze | or telephony |
| 20:11.03 | iCEBrkr | and phpmyadmin isn't much worse than enterprise manager1 |
| 20:11.08 | Corydon-w | iCEBrkr: I think the correct term would be 'sour milk' |
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| 20:11.11 | fugitivo | Juggie: i'll not waste my time for that BROKEN SQL |
| 20:11.14 | iCEBrkr | Corydon-w: hehe |
| 20:11.15 | Seldon1975 | im trying to 'sell' by boss on pgsql and he wants to see other commercial products using it |
| 20:11.17 | fourcheeze | Seldon1975: are you just looking for a case study? |
| 20:11.19 | brettnem | yay DB fight! |
| 20:11.23 | Seldon1975 | yea |
| 20:11.41 | brettnem | I LIKE CSV |
| 20:11.42 | iCEBrkr | Whatever man.. SQL sucks! BTREE TO THE RESCUE! |
| 20:11.49 | iCEBrkr | brettnem: see, now you're talking |
| 20:11.56 | justinu | btreive? |
| 20:12.01 | Corydon-w | We hear the same issues with Asterisk... "I can't make it work; therefore, it's broken." |
| 20:12.02 | fugitivo | LDAP |
| 20:12.03 | brettnem | check out my molecular DB |
| 20:12.04 | ctooley | Yay, COBOL ISAM |
| 20:12.07 | fourcheeze | Seldon1975: http://www.postgresql.org/about/casestudies/ |
| 20:12.08 | iCEBrkr | justinu: Awwwwyeah baby! |
| 20:12.09 | Nugget | flat files and grep should be enough for anyone. Nobody really needs those advanced bells and whistles like indexes and data types. |
| 20:12.19 | fourcheeze | Seldon1975: BASF are a large company |
| 20:12.25 | brettnem | no.. asterisk is really broken.. |
| 20:12.26 | Qwell | Nugget: grep? in my day, we had to parse our data by hand |
| 20:12.36 | justinu | yeah, ISAM was teh shizle |
| 20:13.02 | brettnem | punch cards with a plastic mask held to the light? |
| 20:13.16 | fugitivo | brettnem: lol |
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| 20:13.22 | Qwell | punch cards? newbie |
| 20:13.24 | justinu | that was only when the card reader failed, brettt |
| 20:13.30 | fourcheeze | Seldon1975: 92000+ emplyees |
| 20:13.31 | ctooley | COBOL, The Java of the 60's |
| 20:13.32 | brettnem | heh |
| 20:13.42 | brettnem | 60s? |
| 20:13.46 | ctooley | With super fast ISAM tables to the rescue |
| 20:13.48 | justinu | just don't drop your stack of cards and mess up the sequence |
| 20:13.51 | fourcheeze | mysql isn't great but it's good enough to do just about anything to do with * |
| 20:13.51 | brettnem | talk about CRANKING out some code |
| 20:14.04 | brettnem | asterisk db routines kinda suck |
| 20:14.10 | fugitivo | fourcheeze: realtime sucks |
| 20:14.15 | brettnem | yay! |
| 20:14.24 | brettnem | fight fight! |
| 20:14.29 | brettnem | oh wait.. no one is arguing |
| 20:14.32 | lehel | :heh;p |
| 20:14.35 | justinu | lol |
| 20:14.38 | fugitivo | lol |
| 20:14.42 | fourcheeze | fugitivo: maybe. Tell me how to get my users to be able to change their own passwords without it |
| 20:14.50 | iCEBrkr | Ya know, I'm reading these MySQL gotcha's and in all the systems I've built on MySQL, I haven't run into any of these. Apparently these 'gotchas' would only be for M$-SQL junkies :D |
| 20:14.51 | DrDeke | GO BACK INSIDE, WE'RE FIGHTING! ... Oh right, you guys are fighting. |
| 20:14.53 | ctooley | So, I came in the channel last week and asked about a fund raiser for Bounty money. |
| 20:14.58 | lehel | take care ppl.. c y soon, ciao |
| 20:15.01 | fugitivo | fourcheeze: web interface, generate the file, reload |
| 20:15.13 | ctooley | We're going to do it, though the suits require signups to give the money |
| 20:15.21 | fourcheeze | fugitivo: how often is it good to reload * ? |
| 20:15.23 | brettnem | fugitivo: store db passwords in astdb.. don't have vm ask for it. |
| 20:15.31 | brettnem | fourcheeze: reloads per second? |
| 20:15.37 | fugitivo | fourcheeze: it'll not break * |
| 20:15.42 | ctooley | Anyway, I need to put together the project selection team to decide projects and determine when they're done |
| 20:15.55 | brettnem | ah.. a bounty machine.. 'bout time |
| 20:16.00 | fourcheeze | I guess a flag toggling a "reload now" script that runs every minute |
| 20:16.16 | fourcheeze | just seems like a lot of reloading |
| 20:16.28 | fourcheeze | especially when every time I reload I lose my snom phone BLFs :/ |
| 20:16.30 | brettnem | what are you reloading for? |
| 20:16.42 | brettnem | why?! |
| 20:16.48 | Qwell | You don't need to reload everything if you just change one file |
| 20:16.57 | fugitivo | fourcheeze: reload app_voicemail.so |
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| 20:17.03 | brettnem | I dont' think I lose my BLFs on my polycom when I reload.. no reason why |
| 20:17.14 | brettnem | fourcheese.. really. keep vm passwords in astdb instead of voicemail.conf try it.. |
| 20:17.18 | brettnem | works nicely |
| 20:17.23 | brettnem | I should wiki that.. |
| 20:17.30 | brettnem | DAMN ITS COLD |
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| 20:17.35 | fourcheeze | brettnem: yeah, please do |
| 20:17.36 | brettnem | did the sun go out? |
| 20:17.50 | ctooley | brettnem, you're in Austin aren't you? |
| 20:17.55 | qw3rty | I am trying to locate firmware for the cisco 12SP+ ip phones (yeah they're old). Cisco no longer offers downloads as this is EOL... any ideas where I might find one? |
| 20:17.59 | DrDeke | brett: yes, yes it did. Where are you and what is the temperature there? |
| 20:18.09 | fourcheeze | fugitivo: I'm talking about sip passwords |
| 20:18.10 | brettnem | I'm in austin, tx |
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| 20:18.19 | fugitivo | fourcheeze: sip reload |
| 20:18.21 | brettnem | it's 32.. which is cold for here.. really |
| 20:18.24 | DrDeke | Actually I can't complain; it is all the way up to 20 degrees F here. Was 9 this morning on the way to work; is expected to reach 1 overnight. |
| 20:18.25 | DrDeke | Lol :) |
| 20:18.48 | ctooley | Thought so. We've talked before. Yeah, our governor sold the sun to lower fuel prices |
| 20:18.55 | fourcheeze | can you have sip user passwords in astdb? |
| 20:18.58 | DrDeke | Also I left my coat at my cousin's house (two hours from here) over Thanksgiving and haven't felt like / haven't had time to go get it :) |
| 20:19.17 | brettnem | yeah I didn't bring a warm jacket either.. |
| 20:19.25 | brettnem | coldest I've ever been was -38F |
| 20:19.29 | DrDeke | At least you don't have to go to work when it's 9F out :) |
| 20:19.37 | DrDeke | brett: That's pretty damn cold. Where was that? |
| 20:19.45 | Qwell | coldest I've ever been in was 30 or so |
| 20:19.47 | brettnem | Alberta,CA |
| 20:19.48 | ctooley | brettnem, I brought one, but it hasn't gotten to jacket weather in Austin though |
| 20:19.51 | DrDeke | brett: Oh, ok :) |
| 20:19.56 | diclophis | does anyone know of a DID lookup service? |
| 20:20.01 | brettnem | ctooley: yeah.. whatever! |
| 20:20.06 | DrDeke | What do you mean by DID lookup? |
| 20:20.07 | brettnem | DID lookup? like LERG? |
| 20:20.09 | Darwin35 | ok diff error now |
| 20:20.12 | CunningPike | Is switchtype=qsig a 1.2 thing? |
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| 20:20.30 | FarrisG | Can someone explain to me what a DID number, or a block of them, is? |
| 20:20.36 | Qwell | ~did |
| 20:20.38 | jbot | i heard did is Direct Inward Dialing |
| 20:20.38 | brettnem | ctooley: spicewood? |
| 20:20.49 | DrDeke | FarrisG: A DID number is a telephone number which, when called, can be programmed to send the call to your Asterisk box. |
| 20:21.00 | *** join/#asterisk SeanSmith44502 (n=Sean_smi@phnxapanas75poola89.phnx.uswest.net) |
| 20:21.08 | ctooley | Anyway, I need to put this group together and need to pick people who actually have the ability to get things committed. |
| 20:21.22 | ctooley | brettnem, not anymore, I'm on Braker |
| 20:21.36 | fourcheeze | is it possible to share an astdb between 2 or more *s? |
| 20:21.39 | brettnem | ah.. that a dell kinda north |
| 20:21.43 | DrDeke | FarrisG: The same thing exists in "real" telephone systems. Say I buy 10 analog phone lines from the phone company for my business, but have 30 employees and I want each employee to have a different phone number. I just buy 30 DIDs from the Telco, and they send calls that come into those DIDs over my 10 analog lines. |
| 20:21.54 | brettnem | that sounds like spicewood to me.. |
| 20:22.03 | Nugget | yup |
| 20:22.05 | brettnem | fourcheeze: I think there is a patch to do that.. |
| 20:22.05 | ctooley | brettnem, but I'm originally from Missouri |
| 20:22.11 | brettnem | Nugget: how's justin these days? |
| 20:22.12 | fourcheeze | hmm |
| 20:22.18 | fourcheeze | I'm going to have to look into astdb |
| 20:22.20 | ctooley | Nugget, where you at? I just to work at 183 and Spicewood |
| 20:22.20 | Nugget | Doing great. I saw him monday night |
| 20:22.25 | fourcheeze | seriously, does astdb rock? |
| 20:22.31 | brettnem | Nugget: is he married yet? |
| 20:22.43 | Nugget | ctooley: I'm at the intersection of anderson mill road and spicewood parkway, where the wells fargo and delaware subs is |
| 20:22.44 | FarrisG | DrDeke: And what's the separation there? Would the 10 analog lines limit you to 10 in-out/out-in calls at once? |
| 20:22.50 | Qwell | FarrisG: yes |
| 20:22.54 | diclophis | wjat os LERG? |
| 20:23.00 | Nugget | brettnem: nope |
| 20:23.01 | DrDeke | FarrisG: Sure, if you have 10 phone lines, you can only have 10 calls at once :) |
| 20:23.01 | oogle | if i add fields to cdr_custom.conf, will they work their way in to cdr_odbc queries? |
| 20:23.04 | brettnem | the Local Exchange Routing Guide |
| 20:23.08 | *** part/#asterisk Primer (n=vi@sh.nu) |
| 20:23.15 | FarrisG | Ahhh |
| 20:23.23 | SeanSmith44502 | Got a question: I have a tdm400 with a 1 FXO port.... when a call comes in the asterisk box rings all sip phones....durring a conversation is there anyway the asterisk system can perform a "flash() and sendDTMF()" on the channel that is in use? |
| 20:23.36 | brettnem | ~lerg |
| 20:23.37 | jbot | [lerg] local exchange routing guide |
| 20:23.37 | DrDeke | FarrisG: The idea is that buying 30 numbers and 10 lines (in the days of physical phone lines) was cheaper than 30 numbers and 30 lines, and since most people are not on the phone 24/7... |
| 20:23.40 | CunningPike | Anyone know if qsig is a 1.2 addition, or should it work in 1.0.9? |
| 20:23.54 | diclophis | so.. cn i do a lookup on LERG to see if a X number is available? |
| 20:24.04 | FarrisG | So I just found out that I have 100 DID numbers... and 10 trunks... I don't believe I'm actually using these DID numbers. To set them up, would I need to coordinate with the provider, or is it something I can do myself via asterisk? |
| 20:24.09 | Qwell | you just want to know if a number is available? |
| 20:24.12 | Qwell | diclophis: tollfree, or any? |
| 20:24.19 | diclophis | ... what i need is a central location to lookup number availbility and find out who carries the number and how i can get it routed to my box |
| 20:24.20 | oogle | SeanSmith44502: You can't do stuff on the channel while it's being bridged with Dial |
| 20:24.21 | diclophis | any |
| 20:24.25 | diclophis | toll free primarly though |
| 20:24.34 | brettnem | diclophis: why? |
| 20:24.52 | oogle | SeanSmith44502: you can program dial to send dtmf digits and stuff once it's bridge i believe |
| 20:25.00 | brettnem | jbot, lerg is the Local Exchange Routing Guide -- http://www.trainfo.com/products_services/tra/index.html |
| 20:25.02 | jbot | ...but lerg is already something else... |
| 20:25.05 | diclophis | ... so i know if a number is available |
| 20:25.19 | Qwell | http://businessesales.att.com/products_services/tollfreeproduct_cataloglookup.jhtml |
| 20:25.22 | diclophis | my comp is reselling toll free numbers as a service to realtors |
| 20:25.23 | Qwell | That'll check tollfree |
| 20:25.25 | brettnem | diclophis: why? what are you going to do with some random number someone else owns? |
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| 20:25.28 | brettnem | ~lerg |
| 20:25.31 | jbot | i guess lerg is local exchange routing guide |
| 20:25.35 | diclophis | its totally groundbreaking stuff /sarcasm |
| 20:25.42 | xy_goat | hey yall |
| 20:25.47 | diclophis | well, buy it from them if they arent using it |
| 20:25.54 | Qwell | brettnem: "no, x is y" |
| 20:25.59 | diclophis | i would focus on the available numbers of course |
| 20:26.03 | brettnem | jbot change lerg to the Local Exchange Routing guide -- http://www.trainfo.com/products_services/tra/catalog_details.html#LERG |
| 20:26.04 | diclophis | but its like when you lookup a domain name |
| 20:26.13 | brettnem | damn you jbot |
| 20:26.15 | diclophis | sometimes someone owns the name but it doesnt go anywhere |
| 20:26.31 | diclophis | the att one is good, but i want a web service API type thing |
| 20:26.38 | SeanSmith44502 | oogle...how about if the call is in park? |
| 20:26.49 | brettnem | diclophis LERG1 + LERG6 can be combined to give you NPANXX to OCN mapping |
| 20:26.54 | brettnem | actually |
| 20:26.56 | fourcheeze | has anyone got the snom park buttons to work with * 1.2 ? |
| 20:27.03 | Qwell | jbot: no, lerg is the Local Exchange Routing guide -- http://www.trainfo.com/products_services/tra/catalog_details.html#LERG |
| 20:27.05 | jbot | Qwell: okay |
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| 20:27.23 | diclophis | brettnam LERG1 and LERG6 differ how? |
| 20:27.28 | brettnem | thanks qwell! ;) |
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| 20:27.38 | oogle | i believe the same rule would apply, because something other than the dial plan is taking over the channel |
| 20:27.40 | brettnem | diclophis: LERG1 maps OCN to contact name and company name |
| 20:27.51 | brettnem | diclophis: LERG 6 maps npanxx to switch and OCN |
| 20:28.02 | brettnem | ~local calling guide |
| 20:28.14 | brettnem | jbot what is the local calling guide |
| 20:28.16 | jbot | brettnem: what are you talking about? |
| 20:28.19 | diclophis | where do i get a LERG6 lookup? |
| 20:28.22 | xy_goat | i got a quick Q about freshmaker demsg output and my zaptel.conf file.. in the dmesg it say that module 0 is Installed - is that channel 1 in the zaptel.conf? |
| 20:28.28 | brettnem | diclophis: it's a subscription service |
| 20:29.10 | brettnem | jbot local calling guide is a handy service (based on old data) provided to the public to search NPA NXXs. It can be found at http://members.dandy.net/~czg/lca_index.php |
| 20:29.11 | jbot | brettnem: okay |
| 20:29.17 | brettnem | ~local calling guide |
| 20:29.18 | jbot | it has been said that local calling guide is a handy service (based on old data) provided to the public to search NPA NXXs. It can be found at http://members.dandy.net/~czg/lca_index.php |
| 20:29.27 | brettnem | diclophis: try it out |
| 20:29.41 | brettnem | I'm giving away a secret here.. ;) |
| 20:30.02 | diclophis | how do i use the dandy.net one to search toll free numbers? |
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| 20:30.31 | brettnem | toll free numbers are NOT part of lerg |
| 20:30.41 | brettnem | you need a resporg for that |
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| 20:31.56 | diclophis | how do i do a RESPORG lookup? |
| 20:32.40 | fourcheeze | wow local calls look a bit complicated in north america |
| 20:32.45 | fourcheeze | whoever dreamed that up? |
| 20:32.55 | brettnem | what's so complicated? |
| 20:33.04 | justinu | LNP |
| 20:33.06 | brettnem | diclophis: read up on respogs.. nice article on the wiki http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=RESPORG |
| 20:33.08 | fourcheeze | that you even have to look it up for a start |
| 20:33.15 | brettnem | nah, LNP isn't so bad.. it's a really good idea actually |
| 20:33.34 | brettnem | there are lots of lookups involved in calls.. |
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| 20:34.17 | brettnem | I use LNP to route my calls to specific asterisk boxes.. :D |
| 20:34.36 | brettnem | each of my termination points have a LRN.. works real nicely actually |
| 20:34.53 | fourcheeze | in the uk, for example, if you share the same area code as someone then you are on a local call |
| 20:35.07 | fourcheeze | which makes it much easier to determine |
| 20:35.15 | brettnem | fourcheeze: heh, local calling is VERY complicated here.. |
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| 20:35.19 | fourcheeze | however, here local calls are not necessarily free |
| 20:35.30 | fourcheeze | generally not |
| 20:35.32 | brettnem | fourcheeze: especially since jurisdiction is not two-way |
| 20:36.00 | diclophis | w00t SMS/800 is what i wanted |
| 20:36.20 | fourcheeze | how many possible numbers are there in the north american system? |
| 20:36.31 | Qwell | 500,000,000,000 |
| 20:36.53 | fourcheeze | that's quite a few |
| 20:36.54 | brettnem | diclophis: SMS/800 is a closed system.. you need to be a RESPORG to gain access |
| 20:37.07 | diclophis | um... yea i know |
| 20:37.08 | azzie | fourcheeze, it was like 80K npa-nxx, each of them having 1000 numbers... |
| 20:37.13 | brettnem | Qwell: a slight exaggeration.. ;) |
| 20:37.18 | diclophis | my company is getting into the biz, and we need to know how to do it |
| 20:37.23 | azzie | for US only |
| 20:37.31 | brettnem | diclophis: heh, it's complicated.. you got a switch? |
| 20:37.42 | diclophis | kinda like if your gonna sell drugs, you talk to the farmer |
| 20:37.50 | diclophis | switch? |
| 20:37.55 | brettnem | TELEPHONE SWITCH |
| 20:38.03 | fourcheeze | Qwell: so people have to dial 12 digits? |
| 20:38.08 | brettnem | 1@? |
| 20:38.09 | brettnem | 12? |
| 20:38.10 | diclophis | yea, we have some T1 lines waiting to be activated |
| 20:38.13 | diclophis | and all that jaz |
| 20:38.13 | fourcheeze | that seems like a lot |
| 20:38.20 | diclophis | i am developing the PBX |
| 20:38.26 | brettnem | diclophis: do you have a ss7 capable switch? |
| 20:38.39 | diclophis | ss7, i dont know |
| 20:38.45 | brettnem | right ok |
| 20:38.49 | brettnem | ok, I gotta get to work here |
| 20:38.52 | fourcheeze | brettnem: in order to have 5x10^12 numbers |
| 20:38.56 | diclophis | but if that is what it takes to be able to do this then yea |
| 20:38.59 | brettnem | fourcheeze: ahh |
| 20:39.01 | diclophis | i gess we will need to get one |
| 20:39.17 | brettnem | diclophis: I'm selling a switch very capable to do it.. it's only a small one tho |
| 20:39.35 | brettnem | it's got 16 protected T1s in it. |
| 20:39.42 | azzie | brettnem, asterisk based ? :-) |
| 20:39.44 | brettnem | and supports redundant SS7 A-links |
| 20:39.46 | brettnem | no |
| 20:39.51 | brettnem | it's a real class 5 switch |
| 20:39.54 | diclophis | hmm, what is your company name |
| 20:40.00 | brettnem | UTEX Communications |
| 20:40.04 | diclophis | i will have someone contact you from my comp to work out the details |
| 20:40.09 | brettnem | but why? |
| 20:40.16 | diclophis | we need to be able to auto privision 800 numbers, from a web form |
| 20:40.21 | brettnem | ok, it's not cheap.. |
| 20:40.23 | diclophis | and whatever that entails, we need |
| 20:40.34 | diclophis | is ok, we are looking into doing this long run |
| 20:40.51 | diclophis | everyone took macro 101, you gotta have money to make money ;) |
| 20:40.52 | brettnem | you'd probably be better off letting someone else be the resporg.. and just using something liek asterisk to route the calls. |
| 20:41.12 | diclophis | right... we could do that... do you know one that would let us search for numbers? |
| 20:41.12 | brettnem | diclophis: heh, yeah, but you didn't even ask how much.. haha |
| 20:41.22 | diclophis | eh, not my job |
| 20:41.28 | brettnem | diclophis: I think you can go on the at&t website and search for numbers.. |
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| 20:41.41 | diclophis | but appearntly it is my job to find out the details |
| 20:41.44 | brettnem | or whatever the website is now.. |
| 20:41.57 | diclophis | yea.. we want to search from our site, auto provision... straight to the asterisk box |
| 20:42.01 | diclophis | in like 10 minutes or less |
| 20:42.08 | brettnem | ok, well I have a tekelec 7000 switch.. it supports SS7, PRI, MF, and GR-303 |
| 20:42.23 | brettnem | diclophis: sounds like you need a IXC with an open API |
| 20:42.25 | diclophis | is your company utex.net ? |
| 20:42.42 | brettnem | yeah, the web site sucks.. don't bother |
| 20:42.42 | diclophis | IXC ? |
| 20:43.05 | justinu | i never could figure out how GR-303 worked |
| 20:43.09 | brettnem | ie: long distance carrier |
| 20:43.11 | diclophis | maybe my boss can talk with someone at your company and they can figure all this out |
| 20:43.17 | brettnem | justinu: think ISDN PRI, but dumber |
| 20:43.18 | diclophis | my responsiblity ends at zapata.conf |
| 20:43.34 | justinu | brettnem: how many DS0's controlled per D-channel? |
| 20:43.45 | diclophis | and my expertise is websites, not phones |
| 20:43.59 | brettnem | diclophis: perhaps.. but you need to know what you are getting into... you can probably do the 800 biz without a class5 (although I'm itching to sell). but you need to interface to a long distance carrier with an open API |
| 20:44.16 | diclophis | do you know any? |
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| 20:44.37 | brettnem | justinu: 4 control DS0s on 2 T1s can control I think up to 356.. not dissimilar to NFAS PRI |
| 20:44.47 | KranZ | diclophis: what are you trying to do? |
| 20:44.49 | brettnem | diclophis: no, look around |
| 20:44.50 | justinu | ok |
| 20:44.59 | brettnem | KranZ: he just wants to sell 800 numbers |
| 20:45.07 | justinu | we bought a bunch of teligent GR-303 gear, want to buy it? |
| 20:45.23 | justinu | there was MVIE DMS Frames |
| 20:45.34 | paryl | i feel like a total moron. i can't figure out the SPA-3000 for the life of me |
| 20:45.37 | diclophis | KranZ, be able to have a customer come to our website, search for a vanity number (or a available 8xx number), signup, login, and setup extensions using our virtulized asterisk system |
| 20:45.41 | brettnem | justinu: big difference is that in GR-303, the switch says "RING LINE 108" instead of "incoming call for 7135551212" |
| 20:46.04 | brettnem | so GR-303 sends out calls for physical copper loops.. the switch controls the relationship between did and the copper loops.. |
| 20:46.13 | KranZ | diclophis: and route it to whatever # they want? |
| 20:46.17 | diclophis | yea |
| 20:46.23 | diclophis | well, if it is available |
| 20:46.27 | diclophis | the key is auto provisioning |
| 20:46.43 | diclophis | i want their number to be activated in less than 10 mninutes or so |
| 20:47.48 | KranZ | that would be spiffy |
| 20:47.53 | mutilator | Dec 7 15:19:54 NOTICE[18935]: chan_sip.c:5627 check_auth: stale nonce received from 'kenroe <sip:9896859247@sip>' |
| 20:47.59 | mutilator | stale nonce means what? |
| 20:48.15 | mutilator | this dudes phone gets d/c all the time |
| 20:48.25 | mutilator | have to wait til it reregisters to call it |
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| 20:49.16 | RoyK | zoa: ping |
| 20:50.34 | diclophis | well thanks everyone, i will see what i can come up with |
| 20:50.40 | bsdfreak | roger that |
| 20:50.47 | *** part/#asterisk diclophis (n=diclophi@adsl-69-238-124-226.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 20:51.45 | mutilator | anyone? |
| 20:52.20 | brettnem | sounds like a broken device |
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| 20:53.26 | brettnem | mutilator: try pedantic=yes in sip.conf |
| 20:53.54 | brettnem | that should fix it.. do you have multiple lines registered on one phone? |
| 20:54.19 | brettnem | mutilator: btw pedantic=yes goes in the general section |
| 20:54.28 | mutilator | pedantic is? |
| 20:54.34 | mutilator | and no, it's just a single line |
| 20:55.27 | mutilator | voip-info says nothing |
| 20:55.31 | brettnem | http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=4614 |
| 20:55.32 | paryl | is anyone here familiar with setting up the SPA-3000? |
| 20:56.29 | mutilator | hm |
| 20:56.31 | Darwin35 | http://pastebin.ca/32835 need input on this |
| 20:56.31 | mutilator | i'll try that |
| 20:56.36 | mutilator | thanks |
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| 20:56.42 | Flauto | paryl, i have two of them |
| 20:57.12 | paryl | Flauto: i don't know why, but the documentation isn't making *any* sense to me |
| 20:57.29 | Flauto | what are you trying to do |
| 20:57.31 | paryl | i just want to have access to the PSTN line from asterisk |
| 20:57.56 | paryl | i need to dial the SIP line on the SPA3000 and get a dial tone |
| 20:58.04 | paryl | (real dial tone) |
| 20:58.36 | Flauto | okay |
| 20:58.44 | Flauto | you plug in the pstn line |
| 20:58.56 | Flauto | as well as the sip line which is on the left |
| 20:59.03 | Flauto | and then, under pstn |
| 20:59.16 | Flauto | you set up voip to pstn gateway |
| 20:59.19 | Flauto | yes |
| 20:59.24 | LostFrog | I hate cox. |
| 20:59.36 | Flauto | and then, set up a pin for getting the access to pstn |
| 20:59.37 | Flauto | that is it |
| 21:00.03 | paryl | well, i've done all that, (except for the PIN) |
| 21:00.16 | paryl | and when i dial the sip line i get: Got SIP response 503 "Service Unavailable" back from 192.168.1.137 |
| 21:01.01 | Flauto | have you registered sip to your asterisk |
| 21:01.17 | paryl | yep, i see it register |
| 21:01.31 | Darwin35 | any input on my pastebin |
| 21:01.50 | Flauto | you also setup under exetensions.conf an exten => blalbalb |
| 21:03.03 | paryl | Flauto: of course. that's what's odd... it never takes the line off the hook |
| 21:03.03 | synthetiq | what are currently the biggest voip providers that use asterisk...and what are their suerbases? |
| 21:03.04 | LostFrog | That is a downside of VOIP. |
| 21:03.12 | paryl | it just returns that it's unavailable |
| 21:03.26 | brettnem | what's a suerbase? |
| 21:03.29 | synthetiq | userbases |
| 21:03.30 | brettnem | OH userbase |
| 21:03.32 | LostFrog | userbase |
| 21:03.45 | paryl | Flauto: now, the line voltage is -24V |
| 21:03.48 | brettnem | synthetiq: anyone doing this seriously doesn't just use asterisk |
| 21:03.54 | brettnem | 24? |
| 21:04.17 | brettnem | typically some kind of asterisk + ser setup.. or maybe no asterisk at all.. |
| 21:04.18 | paryl | yes |
| 21:04.20 | Darwin35 | asterisk +ser |
| 21:04.33 | brettnem | I'm using ser.. switching to openser soon. |
| 21:04.34 | Darwin35 | is a great combo |
| 21:04.34 | synthetiq | ser , for static routing maybe |
| 21:04.41 | brettnem | static routing?! |
| 21:04.43 | Flauto | well |
| 21:04.45 | brettnem | what does THAT mean? |
| 21:04.47 | Flauto | i have no idea then |
| 21:04.50 | Flauto | it must be something |
| 21:04.59 | synthetiq | cant load balance with ser unless u rewrite asterisk or ser |
| 21:05.01 | synthetiq | =] |
| 21:05.05 | Flauto | but when you call your sipura, does th ephone ring |
| 21:05.16 | brettnem | what do you mean?? |
| 21:05.17 | Flauto | or the phone call can not go through at all |
| 21:05.38 | brettnem | sure you can load balance with SER.. it all depends on your architecture... |
| 21:05.57 | synthetiq | if u try round robin load balancing |
| 21:05.58 | synthetiq | no |
| 21:06.16 | emrah | Hello there again |
| 21:06.16 | brettnem | synthetiq: I'm not sure why you think you can't do it. |
| 21:06.19 | *** part/#asterisk Darwin35 (n=Darwin@sta-208-139-193-162.rockynet.com) |
| 21:06.23 | synthetiq | it will not work with modifcation in the code to hold state |
| 21:06.29 | synthetiq | why? because i tried it |
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| 21:06.52 | synthetiq | now i have someone writing a true sip router/load balancer |
| 21:06.53 | brettnem | the problem is that asterisk doesn't replicate registrations or support multiple registrations.. |
| 21:06.59 | brettnem | just don't registre phones to asterisk then. |
| 21:07.08 | emrah | In case of a video recording with Asterisk application Record, do you know how to mixe together the .gsm file and the h263 video? |
| 21:07.16 | emrah | Do you know an application which can perorm that? |
| 21:07.22 | synthetiq | dont register the phones to asterisk? |
| 21:07.38 | brettnem | sure, registrer to SER.. take asterisk out of the loop |
| 21:08.02 | emrah | Do you know an application which can perform that? sorry for the misstake |
| 21:08.09 | emrah | Anyone has an idea? |
| 21:08.10 | brettnem | PSTN->SER->AsteriskFarmForRouteLogic->SER->Phone |
| 21:08.34 | brettnem | there are a dozen archs that work.. depends on your need and application. |
| 21:08.46 | synthetiq | so how do u make calls between called servers |
| 21:08.54 | synthetiq | called i mean cloned |
| 21:09.19 | brettnem | SER can route that too |
| 21:09.40 | synthetiq | so whats the point of having asterisk |
| 21:09.51 | brettnem | don't have it.. it's just a point of failure |
| 21:09.52 | brettnem | really |
| 21:09.54 | brettnem | Haha |
| 21:09.57 | *** join/#asterisk jahani2 (n=k@adsl-15-38-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) |
| 21:10.07 | brettnem | please don't use asterisk if you don't need it.. really.. you are making a big mistake |
| 21:10.21 | brettnem | it's only break your heart |
| 21:10.32 | asteriskmonkey | lol |
| 21:11.25 | brettnem | most of what you need and what can probably be done with ser.. really.. things that require extensions to interact with teh live state of another extension (call pickup) dont' work easily with ser.. but everything else you can do with ser and asterisk as a wart (for IVR, VM, etc..) |
| 21:11.38 | brettnem | in fact.. I'm working on trying to get my PRI hardware to talk direct to SER without asterisk |
| 21:12.01 | brettnem | I spend two f-in years getting asterisk into my network.. to find out I don't want or need it.. |
| 21:12.10 | asteriskmonkey | pri to talk direct to ser |
| 21:12.16 | asteriskmonkey | nice |
| 21:12.17 | brettnem | and look at me.. I'm in here all day.. sheesh |
| 21:12.27 | docelmo | me too! |
| 21:12.36 | brettnem | asteriskgeeks: check out ISDNGW package in SER/SEMS.. nice it already works |
| 21:12.39 | *** join/#asterisk emakris2 (n=emakris@c-24-128-56-2.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 21:12.40 | asteriskmonkey | can we get digium to make a ds3 card please :D |
| 21:12.54 | brettnem | asteriskgeeks: WHAT?! are you insane.. you don't really want a DIGIUM DS3 card, do you? |
| 21:13.03 | LostFrog | Why? sangoma (sp?) makes one. |
| 21:13.11 | brettnem | LostFrog: not channelized yet |
| 21:13.12 | asteriskmonkey | hows the sangoma one |
| 21:13.29 | brettnem | sangoma X > digium X |
| 21:13.34 | asteriskmonkey | does sangoma make a single ds1/t1 card with echo can ? |
| 21:13.59 | brettnem | not sure.. but I'd always trust the sangoma stuff first.. the digium cards are too resource intensive. |
| 21:14.04 | emrah | No one has an idea about my question? I'd like to mixe together a recorded h263 file with his appropriate gsm audio. When I use Asterisk Record to do it, I have two separate files and I would like to have everything in one format. |
| 21:14.22 | brettnem | emrah: go read sox docs |
| 21:14.25 | asteriskmonkey | emrah use: sox |
| 21:14.27 | asteriskmonkey | lol |
| 21:14.39 | Nugget | It's cold today so I wore my fuzzy socks. |
| 21:14.49 | *** join/#asterisk rjuan (n=rjuan@194.224.169.27) |
| 21:14.50 | brettnem | emrah: this is #asterisk.. we talk about asterisk or abotu how bad mysql sucks in here |
| 21:14.54 | brettnem | ;) |
| 21:14.56 | asteriskmonkey | emrah: you can add some lines to your ext plan to join and rm the old files aswell |
| 21:15.08 | asteriskmonkey | heynow mysql is not that bad |
| 21:15.11 | brettnem | emrah: read up on MONITOR_EXEC |
| 21:15.13 | iCEBrkr | brettnem: This is IRC.. Everything sucks, nothing is cool. |
| 21:15.25 | justinu | iCEBrkr: lol |
| 21:15.26 | brettnem | iCEBrkr: yes, that's what's cool about it |
| 21:15.34 | iCEBrkr | no, it sucks |
| 21:15.37 | iCEBrkr | :) |
| 21:15.41 | brettnem | heh |
| 21:15.43 | emrah | Thanks all |
| 21:16.01 | brettnem | check out mixmon too.. or whatever it's called |
| 21:16.14 | brettnem | a nice bouquet of flounders |
| 21:16.17 | iCEBrkr | docelmo: at least it's fresh fish |
| 21:16.22 | docelmo | hehe |
| 21:16.30 | docelmo | no.. its salt water |
| 21:16.32 | docelmo | not fresh water |
| 21:16.39 | docelmo | I cought a couple of them a week ago |
| 21:16.42 | iCEBrkr | wah wah wahhhh |
| 21:16.51 | justinu | slap him with a dead smelly fish |
| 21:16.56 | iCEBrkr | ew |
| 21:16.58 | asteriskmonkey | ok asterisk 1.0.9 vs 1.2 ... |
| 21:17.01 | *** join/#asterisk asaj (n=Steve@62.55.147.53) |
| 21:17.05 | brettnem | http://www.awpi.com/Combs/Shaggy/482.html |
| 21:17.11 | asteriskmonkey | does realtime query agains sql db? |
| 21:17.26 | asteriskmonkey | can i mod it to use ldap |
| 21:18.30 | *** join/#asterisk svenna_ (n=svenna@p548D11F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:18.33 | asteriskmonkey | just pulling your leg :) i have a 1.0.9 and a 1.2 production |
| 21:19.08 | asteriskmonkey | whats nice is you can nab the libpri and zap libraries from 1.2 and use em in 1.0.9 :) |
| 21:19.09 | brettnem | haha that's a riot |
| 21:19.12 | *** join/#asterisk robin_sz (n=robin@adsl.redpoint.org.uk) |
| 21:19.55 | justinu | lol |
| 21:20.28 | brettnem | like that? |
| 21:22.00 | *** join/#asterisk |dennis| (i=dennis@200.32.215.84) |
| 21:23.25 | KranZ | anyone have ringback issues when calling from pstn to a sip user? |
| 21:23.39 | KranZ | actually, mgcp also |
| 21:24.01 | *** join/#asterisk SeanSmith44502 (n=Sean_smi@phnxapanas75poola89.phnx.uswest.net) |
| 21:24.19 | asteriskmonkey | as in planned ring back or just when you hang up it rings back |
| 21:24.45 | SeanSmith44502 | Is there anyway to interupt a bridged call in asterisk? |
| 21:24.52 | KranZ | nah, I have 2 extensions 1 sip and 1 mgcp which a caller (mostly from cell phone) doesnt get ringback |
| 21:25.18 | KranZ | but i also have other mgcp and sip extensions which work fine |
| 21:28.04 | KranZ | indeed |
| 21:28.27 | *** join/#asterisk jahani (n=k@adsl-221-38-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) |
| 21:28.46 | KranZ | a temp fix is to answer and provide inband ringing, but that screws the cdr records |
| 21:30.37 | *** join/#asterisk tracinet (n=tracinet@216.242.235.2) |
| 21:31.59 | tracinet | anyone using sipura SPA-2100 with ulaw and rfc2833 on asterisk 1.2 and connected to a SIP provider for calls to the PSTN that has DTMF working? |
| 21:32.32 | test34 | Can someone control asterisk from the internet and ask asterisk to call him and another person with VOIP 3-way to save on long distances ? |
| 21:32.45 | asteriskmonkey | yes |
| 21:32.46 | paryl | ok, my phone company says they aren't blocking the caller's name in callerid, but all i receive is the number. is there a setting in * that could cause that? |
| 21:33.31 | asteriskmonkey | paryl: check to see what conext its hitting and if its doing anything appropriote |
| 21:33.52 | paryl | "anything appropriote" ? |
| 21:33.54 | asteriskmonkey | you can always asterisk -rvvvvvvvvvvvvvv |
| 21:34.10 | rking | "anything over 3 v's is the same as 3 v's" |
| 21:34.11 | paryl | it's hitting my incoming-t1 context, and getting routed to internal extensions or queues |
| 21:34.22 | paryl | i have, and the name isn't coming across |
| 21:34.25 | asteriskmonkey | no did? |
| 21:34.32 | asteriskmonkey | no ivr |
| 21:34.34 | paryl | yes, did |
| 21:34.37 | [TK]D-Fender | asteriskmonkey : Sangoma is working on 1-2 port T1 with EC and may have them out Q1 2006 |
| 21:34.56 | asteriskmonkey | [TK]D-Fender: sweet :) |
| 21:34.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Got this from a guy I'm talking to there after having bought their 4 port EC card |
| 21:35.10 | Seldon1975 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Which BTW &^%#$ rocks.... |
| 21:35.37 | asteriskmonkey | eth1? |
| 21:35.42 | Seldon1975 | am: yep |
| 21:35.43 | asteriskmonkey | is it suppost to show up as ethernet? |
| 21:35.59 | FuriousGeorge | mog_work: i heard the next version of eyebeam will have an xmpp client functionality |
| 21:36.01 | Seldon1975 | am: when I installed the card the OS asked me if I wanted to use DHCP |
| 21:36.04 | mog_work | thats hot |
| 21:36.06 | Seldon1975 | am: and I said yes |
| 21:36.18 | mog_work | my next commit to my branch will be pretty hot |
| 21:36.27 | Seldon1975 | am: theres no eth port on the card itself, just a RJ21X connector |
| 21:36.51 | asteriskmonkey | yes that dosnt sound righ that it has an eth address in the os |
| 21:36.55 | [TK]D-Fender | ok,time togo home.. bbiab |
| 21:36.58 | asteriskmonkey | its a tdma.. pots card |
| 21:37.02 | asteriskmonkey | big bugger at that |
| 21:37.09 | Seldon1975 | indeed |
| 21:37.18 | Seldon1975 | any suggestions? |
| 21:37.30 | mog_work | can i take a look at it seldon |
| 21:38.18 | Seldon1975 | what do you mean take a look at it |
| 21:38.29 | *** join/#asterisk stevek (n=stevek@slim-eth0.horizonlive.net) |
| 21:38.30 | mog_work | i work for digium |
| 21:38.38 | mog_work | i was wondering if i could ssh the box and take a look |
| 21:38.42 | Seldon1975 | oh |
| 21:38.46 | ManxPower | Bell rescheduled a T-1 install for the FOURTH time today. |
| 21:38.47 | tracinet | since upgrading servers to 1.2 (also tried 1.2.1) - sipura devices DTMF does not work - I did some rtp debugs and compared a Cisco 7960, Sipura/Linksys SPA-941 and a Sipura SPA2100 - results can be found here - http://pastebin.ca/32837 - the Cisco is the only one that works - what is weird is that on asterisk 1.0 they all work fine - anyone have any input to get sipura devices working with out of band DTMF on asterisk 1.2? |
| 21:39.06 | Seldon1975 | I'd have to (a) clear it with my boss (b) do a port forward thru the router |
| 21:39.25 | Seldon1975 | i appreciate the offer |
| 21:39.27 | ManxPower | tracinet, you set the DTMF mode on the SIPura to be AVT, you set dtmfmode=rfc2833 |
| 21:39.31 | ManxPower | in sip.conf |
| 21:39.31 | Seldon1975 | is there anything short of that we can try? |
| 21:39.48 | asteriskmonkey | mog_work: as digium if there going to make a single port t1 card with echo can :D |
| 21:39.50 | SeanSmith44502 | [TK]D-Fender .... Is there any way to interrupt a bridged call (call in progress)? |
| 21:40.05 | mog_work | lol asteriskmonkey |
| 21:40.25 | Seldon1975 | mog_work: is there anything I can try short of letting you ssh in |
| 21:40.41 | Seldon1975 | mog_work: should the card even be showing up as an ethernet interface? |
| 21:41.01 | mog_work | no it should not |
| 21:41.06 | asteriskmonkey | no |
| 21:41.07 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, some distros incorrectly detect Digium cards as something else. |
| 21:41.14 | Seldon1975 | hmm |
| 21:41.21 | Seldon1975 | Im using latest CentOS |
| 21:41.26 | asteriskmonkey | mmm |
| 21:41.27 | Seldon1975 | 2.6.9 |
| 21:41.32 | iCEBrkr | So.. These Sangoma cards.. They function like Digiums? I mean ya just plop them in and they work? |
| 21:41.33 | tracinet | ManxPower: yeah - tried that |
| 21:41.43 | ManxPower | tracinet, then you have some OTHER problem. |
| 21:42.05 | ManxPower | iCEBrkr, you need the zap compatable drivers from Sangoma |
| 21:42.42 | Seldon1975 | can you tell me linux distros that the TDM2400 has been proven working on |
| 21:43.11 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, Huh? Digium cards will work with pretty much any distro. |
| 21:43.17 | mog_work | we test on fedora, gentoo, and debian here to my knowledge |
| 21:43.21 | mog_work | but it shouldnt matter |
| 21:43.25 | ManxPower | You just have to make sure that if the distro wants to configure the card you tell it not to. |
| 21:43.35 | Qwell | woohoo |
| 21:43.40 | Qwell | just murdered another 7960 |
| 21:43.43 | tracinet | ManxPower:- yeah it appears that the sipura devices are not stick to rfc compliance and causing issues |
| 21:43.44 | Seldon1975 | but isnt the fact that it's being recognised as an ETH because of the distro Im using |
| 21:43.49 | Qwell | no more SIP for her. ;] |
| 21:44.01 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, Then you need to make that not happen. |
| 21:44.24 | Seldon1975 | ok |
| 21:44.29 | Seldon1975 | please tell me how |
| 21:44.40 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, if you had canceled out when you first booted after installing the card all this would not have happened. |
| 21:44.42 | paryl | is it possible that i'd be getting the number but not the name if my cidstart value was wrong? or cidsignalling? |
| 21:44.52 | Seldon1975 | manx: oh, darn |
| 21:44.53 | paryl | i have them at the defaults |
| 21:44.54 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, Ask on a RedHat or CentOS channel. |
| 21:45.13 | ManxPower | paryl, not in the USA? |
| 21:45.20 | Qwell | "as an ETH"? |
| 21:45.22 | paryl | yeah, okie from tulsa |
| 21:45.33 | Seldon1975 | Qwell: its being seen as an Ehternet adapter |
| 21:45.39 | Qwell | erm |
| 21:45.44 | Qwell | You sure about that? |
| 21:45.47 | paryl | i'm just grasping at straws, really. i don't understand how it wouldn't be working |
| 21:45.48 | ManxPower | Qwell, That can happen. |
| 21:45.50 | Seldon1975 | qwell: yes |
| 21:45.52 | Qwell | ManxPower: really? |
| 21:45.58 | Qwell | funky deviceids or something? |
| 21:46.12 | ManxPower | Usually it's detected as a modem, but the TDM2400 uses a different design and chipset and so might be detected as an ethernet card. |
| 21:46.17 | Qwell | neat |
| 21:46.32 | ManxPower | Qwell, prolly the same controller chip that some common network card also uses. |
| 21:47.07 | Seldon1975 | so I need to find the RH or CentOS procedure for removing the Ethernet adapter |
| 21:47.23 | Seldon1975 | ..without removing the wctdm2400 driver |
| 21:47.34 | asteriskmonkey | start from fresh :D |
| 21:47.45 | Qwell | is this an issue Digium would help with? |
| 21:47.58 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, remove the card driver that the OS is loading. See /etc/modules.conf for 2.4, I don't know what for 2.6 |
| 21:47.59 | mog_work | sorry on a call digium wwill help with anything ^_^ |
| 21:48.00 | Qwell | I don't really know what they cover... |
| 21:48.14 | Qwell | mog_work: Will they send somebody out to do my dishes? :D |
| 21:48.33 | mog_work | ill go to qwellstania |
| 21:48.51 | *** join/#asterisk Stealthmethod (n=123@72.242.62.209) |
| 21:49.05 | Qwell | we make treaty with digiumland |
| 21:51.26 | mog_work | heh |
| 21:51.40 | mog_work | we call it digiland |
| 21:52.15 | brookshire | nubville |
| 21:52.44 | drumkilla | where brookshire is king |
| 21:52.49 | asteriskmonkey | wonder if thell publish my digium for dummies book |
| 21:53.03 | drumkilla | digium for dummies? |
| 21:53.35 | Nugget | we'll call the treaty The Zaptel Accord |
| 21:53.42 | asteriskmonkey | lol |
| 21:54.00 | mog_work | hah |
| 21:54.04 | asteriskmonkey | its a 1 page book saying if you cant use linux your screwed lol |
| 21:54.28 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: I'm debating if I should get a Sangoma card or Digium, problem is, I have 2wks of testing time and I really don't wanna get in over my head. |
| 21:54.50 | brookshire | Digium has great support! |
| 21:54.52 | brookshire | :D |
| 21:54.55 | asteriskmonkey | icebrkr: you in canada? |
| 21:55.00 | iCEBrkr | asteriskmonkey: nope |
| 21:55.06 | file[desk] | brookshire: !!! |
| 21:55.07 | ManxPower | iCEBrkr, 2 weeks to test? You're screwed. |
| 21:55.11 | iCEBrkr | LOL |
| 21:55.18 | brookshire | hey file |
| 21:55.25 | asteriskmonkey | damn... i can get you a digium card fast |
| 21:55.29 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: naa, I know what to expect with a Digium card.. It'll install, zaptel will work, etc, etc, etc. |
| 21:55.33 | asteriskmonkey | but not sangoma :P im not allowed to touch them |
| 21:56.00 | asteriskmonkey | icebrkr: what type of card are you looking for? |
| 21:56.16 | asteriskmonkey | t1? or tdma? |
| 21:56.25 | iCEBrkr | T1 PRI |
| 21:56.45 | asteriskmonkey | dont waste the time with the te110p get the quad span with echocan |
| 21:57.12 | *** join/#asterisk Assid (n=assid@203.115.64.62) |
| 21:57.19 | ManxPower | iCEBrkr, unless you test the specific card with the specific motherboard, with a specific release of asterisk/zaptel you don't know if it will work or if you will get massive numbers of HDLC Abort errors. |
| 21:57.20 | Assid | umm.. anyone here using polycom 501? |
| 21:57.35 | Assid | im having a little issue registering line 3 as a seperate user |
| 21:59.13 | asteriskmonkey | icebrkr: the digium cards are nice, you have to make sure you get a mobo that give it a dedicated irq though :) otherwise massive errors |
| 21:59.14 | justinu | what's wrong? |
| 21:59.42 | Assid | i got line 1 and 2 configured correctly.. it works using num line keys .. as 2 |
| 21:59.55 | *** join/#asterisk Spacebar (n=stingray@stingr.net) |
| 22:00.06 | Assid | but.. line 3.. i want as a seperate registration .. so i go to line 3 and registered.. BUT.. that one doesnt register |
| 22:00.13 | Assid | i dont see anything |
| 22:00.39 | justinu | are you modifying it via the phone interface, or with the xml config |
| 22:01.21 | iCEBrkr | ManxPower: Great.. I actually already encountered that. |
| 22:01.24 | *** join/#asterisk T-Squared (n=ted@hidden.serreyn.com) |
| 22:01.26 | Assid | web interface |
| 22:01.38 | *** part/#asterisk T-Squared (n=ted@hidden.serreyn.com) |
| 22:01.43 | justinu | so the phone icon on the 501 display is hollow? |
| 22:01.46 | iCEBrkr | Which means I actually had the card configured properly, but the CLI was spewing HDLC errors out the wazoo |
| 22:01.47 | justinu | for the 3rd line? |
| 22:02.16 | Assid | well.. actually i am remove |
| 22:02.17 | Assid | remote |
| 22:02.48 | justinu | maybe you need to set the outbound proxy for that line |
| 22:02.57 | Assid | mostly used for incoming.. |
| 22:03.13 | iCEBrkr | shit |
| 22:03.19 | justinu | d'oh |
| 22:03.26 | Assid | but anyways.. i do have an outbound set |
| 22:03.30 | Assid | thats universal |
| 22:03.52 | iCEBrkr | I dunno what's worse? Typing your password on IRC or your phone number. |
| 22:04.29 | *** join/#asterisk ian_k (n=ian@gateway.digium.com) |
| 22:04.48 | Seldon1975 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.51 | Seldon1975 | thanks for the help |
| 22:04.55 | Seldon1975 | Eth1 has been removed |
| 22:05.04 | Seldon1975 | but the other problem I have |
| 22:05.16 | Seldon1975 | is the message "Error: missing /dev/zap!" when the Zap device is loaded at boot time |
| 22:06.10 | Assid | aargh.. doesnt work |
| 22:06.18 | Seldon1975 | i followed the README.udev procedure |
| 22:06.34 | iCEBrkr | and you did a udevstart |
| 22:06.42 | iCEBrkr | modprobed and all that jazz? |
| 22:07.09 | Seldon1975 | sorry, could you be more specific? |
| 22:07.37 | iCEBrkr | Seldon1975: have you gotten it to work manually? Not rebooting. |
| 22:07.46 | azzie | how to force * do codec conversion? * gets incoming SIP INVITE with G711+G729 and sends outgoing INVITE with G711 only... |
| 22:07.53 | *** join/#asterisk SoloFlyer (n=SoloFlye@eth13515.sa.adsl.internode.on.net) |
| 22:07.56 | Assid | justinu: You there? |
| 22:07.56 | azzie | can I force it to convert G711 to e.g. G723 ? |
| 22:08.01 | SoloFlyer | Goodmorning! :) |
| 22:08.10 | iCEBrkr | Wed Dec 7 17:07:18 EST 2005 |
| 22:08.13 | iCEBrkr | time to go home |
| 22:08.18 | SoloFlyer | lol |
| 22:08.19 | Qwell | azzie: asterisk doesn't do g723, and g729 you need licenses |
| 22:08.46 | Seldon1975 | iCe: hmm when I do "modprobe wctdm24xxp" I get "line 0: unable to open master device /dev/zap/ctl' |
| 22:08.48 | azzie | Qwell: g723 was example... to G726 or GSM or iLBC. Just not G711 |
| 22:09.07 | Seldon1975 | even though I have modified my udev file |
| 22:09.14 | Qwell | azzie: it'll transcode when it needs to |
| 22:09.14 | SoloFlyer | azzie... yes you can force transcoding |
| 22:09.23 | Qwell | if both sides can do ulaw...why not do it? |
| 22:09.24 | Seldon1975 | i modified 50-udev.rules |
| 22:09.30 | Seldon1975 | and 50-udev.permissions |
| 22:10.00 | azzie | SoloFlyer, how? |
| 22:10.28 | azzie | Qwell, well it sends outgoing SIP INVITE with G711 **ONLY** which does not give remote party a chance to negotiate anything but g711 |
| 22:11.49 | *** join/#asterisk amir_ (n=amir@gentoo/developer/amir) |
| 22:12.03 | Qwell | azzie: Then you need to allow other codecs |
| 22:12.12 | Qwell | in sip.conf |
| 22:12.24 | azzie | Qwell, i do not restrict any of them in sip.conf |
| 22:13.03 | Seldon1975 | Hmm, Im getting 'Error line 0: unable to open master device /dev/zap/ctl' even though I followed the procedure in README.udev |
| 22:13.05 | SoloFlyer | sorry, phone call |
| 22:13.47 | SoloFlyer | tell asterisk which codecs to use |
| 22:14.10 | azzie | SoloFlyer, can you be specific please? I don't have any restrictions in sip.conf ... |
| 22:14.21 | Qwell | So, you have allow=all? |
| 22:15.24 | azzie | nothing |
| 22:15.37 | azzie | so you are saying they are disabled by default |
| 22:15.55 | Qwell | dunno |
| 22:16.37 | *** join/#asterisk nagl (n=nagl@213.235.241.6) |
| 22:17.49 | azzie | Qwell, right! allowing them explicitly solved it |
| 22:18.11 | azzie | thank you |
| 22:18.51 | Assid | aargh this phone is driving me nuts |
| 22:18.56 | Assid | i cant sleep till i fix it :( |
| 22:19.16 | azzie | now... It's clear how to get G729 license... but how to get G723 license ? |
| 22:19.40 | Qwell | azzie: you don't... |
| 22:20.14 | azzie | so i just g723 for free then |
| 22:20.17 | Qwell | no |
| 22:20.23 | Qwell | asterisk doesn't do 723 |
| 22:21.12 | azzie | why does it show g723 in 'show codecs' then |
| 22:21.23 | Qwell | passthrough? |
| 22:22.13 | azzie | oh sh*t |
| 22:22.40 | azzie | these patent guys know how to make life complicated... |
| 22:23.49 | Seldon1975 | cd \ |
| 22:24.23 | mog_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.30 | mog_work | liecensing was to complicated |
| 22:24.34 | *** join/#asterisk EriSan (n=erisan@81-174-42-85.f5.ngi.it) |
| 22:26.08 | Seldon1975 | hey guys should I have a /dev/zap/ctl directory? in /dev/zap on my machine there are just numbers 1-24 |
| 22:26.31 | mog_work | udev seldon |
| 22:26.35 | mog_work | you need udev rules |
| 22:26.43 | Seldon1975 | i followed README.udev |
| 22:26.44 | mog_work | README.udev in your zaptel source |
| 22:26.47 | Seldon1975 | yeah I did that |
| 22:27.03 | mog_work | unload both zaptel and the card |
| 22:27.06 | mog_work | and try it again |
| 22:27.18 | Seldon1975 | ok |
| 22:28.35 | iCEBrkr | Seldon1975: did you type 'udevstart' |
| 22:28.40 | iCEBrkr | Seldon1975: after you updated the permissions? |
| 22:29.15 | Seldon1975 | no |
| 22:29.23 | Seldon1975 | ill try that |
| 22:29.32 | Seldon1975 | udevstart |
| 22:29.34 | Seldon1975 | oops |
| 22:29.47 | Seldon1975 | hee hee |
| 22:29.56 | Seldon1975 | damn KVM |
| 22:29.57 | Assid | stupid 501 |
| 22:30.00 | DrDeke | stop when convenient |
| 22:30.06 | DrDeke | ;) |
| 22:30.32 | DrDeke | (words to live by; not a mistake) |
| 22:30.55 | mog_work | i live by stop now |
| 22:30.58 | DrDeke | hehe |
| 22:31.01 | DrDeke | well, yeah |
| 22:31.08 | DrDeke | but that makes sense and is relatively unremarkable |
| 22:31.26 | DrDeke | however, telling a computer program to "stop when convenient" as opposed to "quit" "exit" "stop now" tickles my funny bone a bit |
| 22:31.51 | mog_work | what about restart gracefully |
| 22:31.55 | Seldon1975 | that reminds me of the old DOS joke |
| 22:32.09 | DrDeke | Who is General Failure and why is he reading my Drive C:? ;) |
| 22:32.18 | qw3rty | I am trying to locate firmware for the cisco 12SP+ ip phones (yeah they're old). Cisco no longer offers downloads as this is EOL... any ideas where I might find one? |
| 22:32.26 | Seldon1975 | no, why does DOS never say "EXCELLENT command or filename" |
| 22:32.30 | DrDeke | hahahahaha! |
| 22:32.31 | DrDeke | yeah |
| 22:34.11 | Seldon1975 | hmm, can anyone elaborate on the error message: "No functioning Zap hardware found in /proc/zaptel, loading ztdummy" |
| 22:34.26 | mog_work | where did that come from? |
| 22:34.42 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, that means the card is not detected. |
| 22:34.50 | Seldon1975 | wierd |
| 22:35.01 | ManxPower | The card is prolly being hidden by whatever driver your distro loaded for the card. |
| 22:35.05 | Seldon1975 | it came when i did udevstart |
| 22:35.26 | Seldon1975 | this is so odd |
| 22:35.33 | iCEBrkr | Seldon1975: You got more docs to read :P |
| 22:35.36 | Seldon1975 | i loaded wctdm2400p |
| 22:35.44 | *** part/#asterisk graphyx (n=mike@67.50.46.118) |
| 22:36.03 | Seldon1975 | when I issued 'udevstart' my machine slowed to a crawl |
| 22:36.04 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, and there was no error message and "lsmod" shows that driver loaded? |
| 22:36.35 | Seldon1975 | Manx - there was the error about 'unable to open master device /dev/zap/ctl' |
| 22:36.46 | Seldon1975 | so I shut down zaptel |
| 22:36.52 | *** join/#asterisk insomni (n=insomni@x1-6-00-e0-18-6f-34-ad.k455.webspeed.dk) |
| 22:36.56 | Seldon1975 | and rmmod wctdm24xxp |
| 22:37.03 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, and you got that driver when you did "modprobe wctdm2400p"? |
| 22:37.26 | ManxPower | modprobe of the card driver will AUTOMATICALLY load zaptel kernel module. |
| 22:37.34 | Seldon1975 | ok |
| 22:37.45 | Seldon1975 | my machine is crawling now - need to reboot |
| 22:39.07 | MstlyHrmls | Assid: any luck with your 501? |
| 22:40.59 | Assid | MstlyHrmls: nope |
| 22:41.09 | Assid | i cant get only line 3 to register as a different user |
| 22:41.14 | Assid | its just insane |
| 22:41.18 | MstlyHrmls | Assid: you have your first registration set to use 2 line keys, right? |
| 22:41.27 | Assid | yes |
| 22:41.36 | MstlyHrmls | What is your second registration set to? |
| 22:41.43 | Assid | nothing |
| 22:41.55 | Assid | going straihgt to line 3 settings |
| 22:42.04 | MstlyHrmls | ahhh, that'd do it |
| 22:42.19 | Assid | so whats it supposed to be? |
| 22:42.21 | MstlyHrmls | put the reg 3 settings into reg 2 |
| 22:42.27 | Assid | i tried that too |
| 22:42.28 | Assid | it didnt help |
| 22:42.32 | *** join/#asterisk toddf (n=toddf@ns0.fries.net) |
| 22:42.49 | MstlyHrmls | hmmm |
| 22:43.00 | MstlyHrmls | what did it do in that case? |
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| 22:43.18 | Assid | i still dont see any registrations |
| 22:43.39 | MstlyHrmls | none at all, or is reg 1 registering? |
| 22:43.48 | Assid | nly reg1 |
| 22:44.28 | Seldon1975 | i just rebooted |
| 22:44.31 | Seldon1975 | I still have the issue |
| 22:44.40 | Seldon1975 | about /dev/zap/ctl |
| 22:44.45 | Assid | worse part is..it takes me 3 mins or so.. per update |
| 22:45.18 | justinu | i've had problems like that before, I had to reset the phone from the device itself |
| 22:45.27 | Seldon1975 | oh |
| 22:45.30 | Assid | yes yes yes.. |
| 22:45.31 | Seldon1975 | no - I dont! |
| 22:45.32 | Assid | i gto it working |
| 22:45.38 | Seldon1975 | it just loaded ok! |
| 22:45.50 | MstlyHrmls | Assid: rather than rebooting hold down the up,down,x,menu keys for a few seconds |
| 22:46.05 | MstlyHrmls | Assid: cool, what'd you change? |
| 22:46.06 | Assid | im not at the phone |
| 22:46.13 | Assid | i did what you said.. AGAIN |
| 22:46.16 | MstlyHrmls | :-) |
| 22:46.17 | Assid | but this time .. it worked |
| 22:46.43 | MstlyHrmls | excellent |
| 22:46.53 | Assid | thanks |
| 22:46.59 | MstlyHrmls | obviously found the right chicken to sacrifice ;-) |
| 22:47.07 | Assid | yep |
| 22:47.08 | MstlyHrmls | no problem |
| 22:47.09 | Assid | i can now sleep |
| 22:47.12 | Assid | 4.17 am |
| 22:47.37 | MstlyHrmls | ugh |
| 22:49.43 | RoyK | hi. if running sip realtime, can I do a sip show peer 1234 and have * grab it from the db? |
| 22:49.52 | RoyK | it doesn't look like it's even trying |
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| 22:53.37 | Seldon1975 | in order ro apply the changes outlined in README.udev, what do I need to do? |
| 22:53.41 | greekman | hi all |
| 22:53.52 | greekman | anyone have any experience with building call files? |
| 22:54.16 | tzafrir_laptop | it's quite easy |
| 22:54.34 | tzafrir_laptop | See the examples on voip-info.org |
| 22:54.59 | greekman | i've been able to build them, but I need to build a special type |
| 22:55.17 | greekman | i can create a call to an outside caller then send it to a queue with a call file |
| 22:55.23 | greekman | but I can't do it backwards |
| 22:55.37 | Seldon1975 | ive modified /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules and /etc/udev/permissions.d/50-udev.permissions but it seemed to have no effect |
| 22:55.55 | greekman | I want to originate a call in the queue, then when an agent picks up, connect it to the outside # |
| 22:56.05 | tzafrir_laptop | greekman, this is a matter of proeprly building your dialplan, then |
| 22:56.17 | greekman | I've tried some sneaky attempts to work around, but nothing seems to work |
| 22:56.24 | *** join/#asterisk Goshen (n=Goshen@67-40-107-29.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 22:56.40 | Goshen | How do I get rid of "comedian mail" when I access voicemail? |
| 22:56.54 | tzafrir_laptop | greekman, a call has two legs. in a call files you have the source channel and context, and the destination extension from that context |
| 22:58.09 | ManxPower | My helpdesk person is getting pissed off because I'm bitching about 2 month old tickets. |
| 22:58.22 | ManxPower | How long DOES it take to replace a floppy drive anyway? |
| 22:58.27 | dokhench_work | lol |
| 22:58.42 | dokhench_work | depnds on where the machine AND the floppy is i suppose. ;) |
| 22:58.47 | tzafrir_laptop | ManxPower, still using floppies? |
| 22:58.58 | ManxPower | well the machine is on the same floor as the tech |
| 22:59.07 | ManxPower | tzafrir_laptop, Not me, real estate agents |
| 23:00.18 | MstlyHrmls | what is this "floppy" of which you speak? |
| 23:00.43 | MstlyHrmls | next you're going to want the punch-card reader upgraded ;-) |
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| 23:01.19 | ManxPower | MstlyHrmls, They are upgrading their AS/400 |
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| 23:03.33 | Druken | who here is from the uk or china? |
| 23:03.52 | *** join/#asterisk dogtanian (i=dogtania@eye.ham.zee.walroos.com) |
| 23:04.11 | justinu | Viva OS/400! |
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| 23:06.26 | MstlyHrmls | ManxPower: could be worse; could be System/36 |
| 23:06.53 | ManxPower | MstlyHrmls, Actually it's not bad. The bean counters manage their own stuff. |
| 23:07.49 | Druken | is the rings and dialtones outside of north america diffrent? |
| 23:07.57 | dogtanian | yes |
| 23:08.02 | justinu | there can't possibly be system/36's still running, can there? |
| 23:08.13 | MstlyHrmls | ManxPower: the beancounters themselves?! |
| 23:08.20 | Druken | dogtanian: does it sounds like a beep rather than a ring? |
| 23:08.32 | MstlyHrmls | that's either awesome or terrifying... |
| 23:08.41 | dogtanian | Druken: the ring or the dial tone? |
| 23:08.48 | Druken | the ring |
| 23:08.58 | ManxPower | MstlyHrmls, Yes. They are idiots, but they wanted to manage their own stuff. |
| 23:09.06 | Druken | dialtone sounds like a solid tone |
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| 23:09.20 | *** join/#asterisk darwin_35 (n=darwin35@sta-208-139-193-162.rockynet.com) |
| 23:09.48 | ManxPower | The biggest problem is that departments see MIS as a highly desireable thing to control. They have the largest budget for a department that is not a revenue center. |
| 23:09.49 | dogtanian | Druken: in the uk it;s: ring ring (pause) ring ring (pause).... |
| 23:10.12 | Druken | no, i'm talking when your calling someone |
| 23:10.21 | ManxPower | I would argue that the marketing department has a larger budget. |
| 23:10.23 | dogtanian | Druken: same |
| 23:10.53 | dogtanian | Druken: it's the same no matter which UK PSTN terminates it |
| 23:11.02 | MstlyHrmls | ManxPower: aye. They at least hire people with clue to admin the stuff though, right? |
| 23:11.13 | Druken | dogtanian: i guess this is hard to explain... when ya call someone here, it SOUNDS like a ring, but this phone sounds like a tone, not a ring |
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| 23:11.18 | darwin_35 | app_rxfax.c: In function `phase_e_handler': |
| 23:11.18 | darwin_35 | app_rxfax.c:99: error: structure has no member named `callerid' |
| 23:11.18 | darwin_35 | app_rxfax.c: In function `rxfax_exec': |
| 23:11.18 | darwin_35 | app_rxfax.c:271: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type |
| 23:11.18 | darwin_35 | app_rxfax.c:274: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type |
| 23:11.19 | darwin_35 | app_rxfax.c: At top level: |
| 23:11.21 | darwin_35 | app_rxfax.c:67: warning: 't30_flush' defined but not used |
| 23:11.23 | darwin_35 | sorry |
| 23:11.31 | Druken | damnit, you know better than that |
| 23:11.47 | dogtanian | Druken: surely it depend on your handset? |
| 23:11.53 | ManxPower | MstlyHrmls, Gads no! |
| 23:11.53 | ManxPower | The director of the accounting department fancies himself as some sort of computer expert. |
| 23:11.55 | Druken | this is an ata |
| 23:11.56 | ManxPower | darwin_35, What IS your problem. That's the most well known problem in the universe. |
| 23:12.06 | Druken | but i have an ip phone that sounds the exact same |
| 23:12.21 | ManxPower | You are not using the version of spandsp/rxfax/txfax that is required for your version of Asterisk |
| 23:12.22 | *** join/#asterisk shido6 (n=shido6@d221-68-216.commercial.cgocable.net) |
| 23:12.22 | Druken | was thinking maybe they came from over there... |
| 23:13.15 | MstlyHrmls | ManxPower: oh my... |
| 23:13.15 | MstlyHrmls | definitely in the terrifying category then |
| 23:13.15 | darwin_35 | spandsp 0.2.0 |
| 23:13.19 | dogtanian | Druken: the actual ring sound that the handset makes for an IP phone is entirely down to the firmware |
| 23:13.20 | darwin_35 | wich is what we have in ports |
| 23:13.42 | Druken | dogtanian: i'm not talking about how it rings the damn phone |
| 23:13.45 | ManxPower | darwin_35, well get it from the correct location. |
| 23:13.50 | ManxPower | or switch to the correct version of Asterisk. |
| 23:13.55 | Druken | i'm talking about the audio ya hear when you call someone |
| 23:14.03 | darwin_35 | 1.2 .1 of asterisk |
| 23:14.20 | dogtanian | heh |
| 23:14.30 | ManxPower | darwin_35, looks like you'll have to switch back to 1.0.9 if you want to use the ports version of spadsp |
| 23:14.48 | dogtanian | Druken: well, if you call a UK number you'll find out |
| 23:14.51 | ManxPower | But the easier thing would be to do what everyone else does and download the source yourself. |
| 23:15.52 | darwin_35 | and spandsp 0.0.2.pre20 |
| 23:15.55 | Druken | uhg... well that's of no damn help... |
| 23:16.09 | dogtanian | Druken: why not? |
| 23:16.33 | Druken | because the ata is making the sound.... |
| 23:16.54 | Druken | not sure why... but it is... |
| 23:17.15 | dogtanian | Druken: if you want to know what it sounds like, try using a pstn phone |
| 23:17.32 | Druken | don't have one.. hehe |
| 23:18.31 | ManxPower | darwin_35, get it from the official site |
| 23:18.46 | darwin_35 | I am then I have to manualy patch it |
| 23:18.54 | dogtanian | if you're using an ip phone to terminate a call on pstn, surely you'll hear the ring tone provided by the pstn |
| 23:18.58 | darwin_35 | going for pre21c |
| 23:19.23 | ManxPower | darwin_35, be sure to get the 1.2/CVS version of it. |
| 23:21.34 | ManxPower | dogtanian, why do you think this? |
| 23:21.55 | ManxPower | When using an IP phone or ATA you will hear EXACTLY what the device wants you to hear and it will generate the sound locally. |
| 23:22.28 | MstlyHrmls | actually, both can happen |
| 23:22.36 | *** join/#asterisk MRH2 (n=Mr_happy@fcirc-adsl.demon.co.uk) |
| 23:22.47 | MstlyHrmls | in somecases the gateway will provide early media, and you get the PSTN's native sounds |
| 23:22.54 | ManxPower | MstlyHrmls, not if things are correctly set. |
| 23:22.56 | MstlyHrmls | in others it's left up to the device |
| 23:23.03 | ManxPower | No, early media is for audio, not rinback |
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| 23:23.40 | ManxPower | The only situation where you should hear PSTN tones is 1) the PSTN port is analog or 2) the gateway answered the call before dialing out to the PSTN |
| 23:23.47 | Druken | ManxPower: so i'm not crazy? |
| 23:24.05 | ManxPower | Druken, You are crazy to care about the issue. |
| 23:24.21 | Druken | thanks man... |
| 23:24.23 | MRH2 | hi what is the best way to sponsor a minor bug or get bugs fixed quicker .. i get daily complaints about controlplayback |
| 23:24.34 | ManxPower | MRH2, post a bounty. |
| 23:24.43 | MRH2 | where about? |
| 23:24.57 | ManxPower | Druken, You can spend days hacking around the problem, or you can just accept it as a quirk of VoIP. |
| 23:25.00 | Druken | i'm just curious why the damn dialtone and ring sound are diffrent... |
| 23:25.03 | ManxPower | MRH2, the mailing lists. |
| 23:25.12 | ManxPower | Druken, what device are you using? |
| 23:25.21 | Druken | tis all.... i'm sure my stupid customers would ask and bitch about it... because it's "diffrent" people fear change |
| 23:25.35 | MRH2 | ok |
| 23:25.41 | Druken | it's a sipcom ata1000 |
| 23:26.02 | ManxPower | Druken, never heard of it. You set the sounds you should hear IN THE ATA or PHONE |
| 23:26.28 | Druken | you'd think so.. wouldn't ya? |
| 23:26.28 | ManxPower | For example in my SIPura ATA, I have it play a specific non-USA dialtone until you press 9, then you get the USA dialtone. |
| 23:26.29 | Druken | :) |
| 23:26.50 | justinu | Druken: just tell them they're dialing a foreign country |
| 23:26.51 | ManxPower | Druken, you could get a decent device like Polycom or SIPura. |
| 23:27.05 | ManxPower | Or you could contact the companie's tech support. |
| 23:27.15 | ManxPower | It's not like we can help you with the device issue. |
| 23:27.48 | ManxPower | Druken, does your device require you to press "SEND" when the user is done dialing? |
| 23:27.51 | Druken | hehehe it not an issue really... was just wondering if the dialtones and ring sounds varried |
| 23:28.12 | Druken | ManxPower: find me a send button on an analog phone :) |
| 23:28.28 | ManxPower | Druken, Ah, sorry, you are using an ATA. |
| 23:28.38 | Druken | yeah |
| 23:28.44 | ManxPower | Do you have to wait for a timeout before the call is sent to Asterisk? |
| 23:28.54 | ManxPower | OR does it have internal dialplan support? |
| 23:28.59 | Druken | it appears so' |
| 23:29.07 | Druken | it has an internal dialplan support |
| 23:29.23 | ManxPower | Druken, too bad. My users hear ring sound within .5 second of them dialing the last digit. |
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| 23:30.22 | Druken | :) |
| 23:31.56 | Druken | ManxPower: what would give you preaudio? |
| 23:32.08 | Druken | an answer somewhere in the line right? |
| 23:32.43 | ManxPower | Druken, You mean "early media"? Any time you hear audio without the call being answered. i.e. "the number you dialed is disconnected", "The cell phone you are trying to reach is not available", etc. |
| 23:33.01 | Druken | that's the ticket |
| 23:33.10 | ManxPower | the telco does not answer the call in those situations because if they did they would have to bill the call. |
| 23:33.59 | Druken | ok, well for some strange reason, of which i have not found yet, i get two ringing sounds that overlap each other |
| 23:34.03 | ManxPower | Generally you don't want to transport ringback or dialtone across a VoIP link because it will be distorted if you use a compressed codec. So the devices generate that stuff locally. |
| 23:34.10 | Druken | seems one is from the voip, the other from the pstn |
| 23:34.12 | ManxPower | Druken, that's a common problem. |
| 23:34.32 | ManxPower | It's been discussed to death on the mailing lists and on the bugtracker, but don't ask me to site the URLs. |
| 23:34.42 | ManxPower | Druken, common problem with SIPura |
| 23:34.59 | ManxPower | sipura double ringback would be a good google search |
| 23:35.00 | Druken | let me guess, without resolution ? |
| 23:35.26 | Qwell | add a ,r, and get 3 |
| 23:35.45 | ManxPower | Druken, I dunno. When my users complain I tell them to shut up and be glad the company provides them with any phone. |
| 23:36.03 | Druken | no... if i added a r... i wouldn't get the "early media" at all |
| 23:36.23 | ManxPower | Druken, how do you interface to the PSTN? |
| 23:36.53 | ManxPower | Druken, issue an Answer before your Dial line in Asterisk. |
| 23:37.01 | ManxPower | Then you can hear the distorted PSTN sound only. |
| 23:37.44 | Druken | i interface with the pstn with various pri's around the country |
| 23:38.01 | ManxPower | Druken, make sure you have priindication-outofband |
| 23:38.04 | ManxPower | ..er. |
| 23:38.10 | ManxPower | Druken, make sure you have priindication=outofband in zapata.conf |
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| 23:40.28 | Druken | oh, ok, well IAX than.. |
| 23:40.46 | Druken | i doubt the ZAPATA change would affect that... |
| 23:40.48 | ManxPower | Huh? You set that on the Asterisk system that interfaces to the PSTN. |
| 23:41.05 | Druken | yeah... sorry my bad... |
| 23:41.10 | Druken | it's been a long day |
| 23:41.31 | ManxPower | 5 days until I move.... |
| 23:42.24 | darwin_35 | Manx where to now |
| 23:42.35 | darwin_35 | Coming here to Denver |
| 23:42.44 | ManxPower | darwin_35, no. Northern AL |
| 23:42.52 | darwin_35 | wow |
| 23:43.10 | darwin_35 | but we need you here at teliax |
| 23:43.32 | ManxPower | darwin_35, Perhaps you need to hire me as an offsite consultant. |
| 23:44.05 | *** join/#asterisk zotz (n=zotz@24.231.47.168) |
| 23:44.21 | ManxPower | darwin_35, I'm moving to the middle of nowhere, to the top of a 1000ft "mountian", nearest town is at the bottom of the mountian and has 1,000 people, nearest CO is 11 miles away. |
| 23:44.58 | Qwell | Why so remote? |
| 23:45.28 | *** join/#asterisk m160858 (n=jsaenz@200.89.12.46) |
| 23:45.42 | m160858 | hi everyone |
| 23:46.07 | Druken | no hi-speed for ManxPower |
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| 23:51.16 | shmaltz | hi m160858 |
| 23:51.40 | Seldon1975 | if Im in * console and I type 'help' the list of commands goes off the top of the screen - how do I prevent this? |
| 23:51.50 | drumkilla | you scroll up? |
| 23:52.01 | drumkilla | :) |
| 23:52.11 | m160858 | I´ve g729 y g723 codecs, but they tell me that not works on AMD |
| 23:52.19 | m160858 | that's right? |
| 23:52.22 | Qwell | yes |
| 23:52.31 | drumkilla | Seldon1975: or do ... asterisk -rx "help" | less |
| 23:52.31 | Qwell | Those aren't legal either |
| 23:52.44 | Qwell | m160858: If you want g729, buy the licenses from digium |
| 23:53.01 | m160858 | too late |
| 23:53.10 | drumkilla | too late? |
| 23:53.20 | Qwell | he already stole the illegal ones |
| 23:53.34 | drumkilla | they're pretty easy to delete :) |
| 23:53.58 | m160858 | my boss buied a codecs for intel, i think |
| 23:54.03 | m160858 | i'm not sure |
| 23:54.12 | Qwell | those are illegal for any production use... |
| 23:54.13 | shmaltz | Seldon1975, type help then press the tab key |
| 23:54.15 | loud | hes in peru, they dont take that seriously there. |
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| 23:55.12 | Goshen | How do I get rid of "comedian mail" when I access voicemail? |
| 23:55.23 | Qwell | Goshen: change the file |
| 23:55.26 | Qwell | rerecord it |
| 23:55.32 | Goshen | lol ok |
| 23:55.45 | Goshen | great idea! |
| 23:55.45 | Druken | sounds simple to me |
| 23:56.10 | Goshen | is there a blank 1ms audio file already recorded? |
| 23:56.15 | shmaltz | why is that a55hole on that phone call for over 20 minutes now? doens't he realize I want to restart *? |
| 23:56.24 | Qwell | shmaltz: restart now |
| 23:56.29 | alephcom | yes, I think it's in the silence directory.... |
| 23:56.30 | Qwell | problem solved |
| 23:56.41 | shmaltz | Qwell, yeah but I don't want him to get disconnected :( |
| 23:56.52 | shmaltz | Qwell, anyhow I'm getting paid by the hour |
| 23:56.53 | Qwell | then wait it out, like a chump |
| 23:56.56 | alephcom | shmaltz: All you have to do is say "oops...." |
| 23:57.00 | loud | restart when convenient then and go smoke a cigarrette. |
| 23:57.08 | Goshen | perfect! |
| 23:57.09 | Druken | shmaltz: restart when convient |
| 23:57.11 | Goshen | thank you |
| 23:57.14 | shmaltz | alephcom, but he will still be upset, it's an overseas call |
| 23:57.23 | ctooley | Ok, so I finally got the details of our Bounty Fund Raising Drive. We're going to give $10 to a bounty pool for every one that signs up for our Asterisk based product (free by the way) with a promotion code of ASTERISK |
| 23:57.24 | Qwell | then he won't know it was your fault |
| 23:57.37 | alephcom | Exactly. |
| 23:57.37 | shmaltz | Druken, but I have to babysit it, because I want to test my zapata.conf changes |
| 23:58.02 | drumkilla | ctooley: you can pass that bounty $ over to me |
| 23:58.04 | drumkilla | kthxbye! |
| 23:58.12 | ManxPower | shmaltz, 1.2 allows you to change most zapata.conf settings with just a reload chan_zap.so |
| 23:58.18 | Goshen | there isn't a comedian-mail.gsm file...what is the default "comedial mail" file called? |
| 23:58.18 | ctooley | drumkilla, you can earn it. |
| 23:58.24 | drumkilla | :) |
| 23:58.27 | loud | is the payment automatic ? |
| 23:58.37 | shmaltz | ManxPower, I'm still on 1.0.9 on that one :( |
| 23:58.40 | drray | Goshen - vm-intro |
| 23:58.47 | ctooley | loud, you mean for earning the bounty? |
| 23:58.57 | *** part/#asterisk m160858 (n=jsaenz@200.89.12.46) |
| 23:59.02 | drray | Goshen - you can watch the console and it will tell you the files being played |
| 23:59.11 | Druken | shmaltz: so tap him on the shoulder and tell him to hurry the fuck up :) |
| 23:59.30 | Qwell | not vm-intro :p |
| 23:59.34 | ctooley | we're picking a group to pick the projects to money toward and determine whne the goal has been met |
| 23:59.36 | Qwell | vm-login |
| 23:59.44 | drray | oops |
| 23:59.46 | drumkilla | you can always grep the sounds.txt file ... |
