irclog2html for #asterisk on 20051219

`00:00.08`	`*** join/#asterisk jahani2 (n=k@adsl-181-42-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma)`
`00:00.11`	`blitzrage`	`I need a stand for my tv...`
`00:00.18`	`*** join/#asterisk RickTick (n=rpulido_@71.196.2.172)`
`00:00.32`	`blitzrage`	`I need to make better utilization of the space in my room :)`
`00:01.42`	`RickTick`	`Hello All: Anyone know how to setup/experience with an Eusso 4 port fxo device?`
`00:01.54`	`smirl`	`can someone make a suggestion as to the lowest cost SIP Hardphone available and where to buy?`
`00:02.06`	`sivana`	`smirl: probably the Grandstreams`
`00:02.10`	`sivana`	`bye`
`00:02.18`	`blitzrage`	`smirl: lowest cost? grandstream probably... but ewwww`
`00:02.18`	`sivana`	`oops`
`00:02.25`	`sivana`	`ya.. you get what you pay for`
`00:02.37`	`blitzrage`	`true`
`00:02.48`	`blitzrage`	`Polycom IP301 is probably one of the better low cost phones`
`00:02.53`	`sivana`	`they're ok phones.. but certainly cheap`
`00:02.54`	`sivana`	`:`
`00:02.56`	`sivana`	`:)`
`00:03.00`	`smirl`	`i have polycom phones now`
`00:03.12`	`smirl`	`just looking for new alternatives`
`00:03.17`	`blitzrage`	`or the new Linksys that looks like a 79xx series phone with the Sipura guts`
`00:03.25`	`Qwell`	`spa941`
`00:03.30`	`sivana`	`smirl: the Sipura SPA-841s aren't bad either`
`00:03.54`	`sivana`	`Qwell: have you tried them?`
`00:03.59`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: yah -- thats the one`
`00:04.13`	`blitzrage`	`good price too`
`00:04.32`	`sivana`	`I tried the 841 last week.. not bad.. haven't got a 941 to compare to... my supplier is out`
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`00:05.26`	`Qwell`	`dunno, [TK]D-Fender has`
`00:05.30`	`Qwell`	`he likes it`
`00:05.30`	`smirl`	`if i wanted to pay $180 i would buy a ZyXel WiFi phone`
`00:05.42`	`Qwell`	`smirl: cheap-o`
`00:05.57`	`smirl`	`well... why do you think i'm using free pbx software`
`00:05.58`	`blitzrage`	`all wifi phones suck until they build a microbrowser into them`
`00:06.31`	`Qwell`	`so you can pay more for better phones?`
`00:06.34`	`Qwell`	`duh`
`00:06.45`	`smirl`	`no, so i pay as little as possible :-p`
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`00:07.18`	`sivana`	`smirl: what's wrong with your Polycoms?`
`00:07.30`	`smirl`	`nothing, they are great, but need to buy more phones`
`00:07.34`	`smirl`	`and if i can find a good phone for less`
`00:07.37`	`smirl`	`i'll get em`
`00:08.23`	`sivana`	`smirl: check out voipsupply.com`
`00:08.39`	`sivana`	`you can search by budget too`
`00:08.43`	`rob0`	`nice prices but the shipping, from China, is way high`
`00:08.48`	`smirl`	`yea, i'm looking there`
`00:09.08`	`smirl`	`anyone know if the grandstream phones have multiple line appearances?`
`00:09.16`	`sivana`	`smirl: the GS101/102 do not`
`00:10.46`	`smirl`	`ah that sux!`
`00:10.55`	`Qwell`	`What do you expect?`
`00:10.59`	`smirl`	`lol`
`00:11.06`	`rob0`	`oh NM, I am thinking of some other place that ships from China, not voipsupply.com`
`00:11.17`	`smirl`	`i'm a REALLY cheap bastard`
`00:11.25`	`Qwell`	`smirl: telephony isn't cheap`
`00:12.14`	`coppice`	`dunno. analogue phones are made for about $1. that's pretty cheap`
`00:12.18`	`trixter`	`thevoipconnection.com sometiumes has better deals than voipsupply.com`
`00:12.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Only IP phones worth buying : Polycom & SPA-941. <- Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.`
`00:12.22`	`trixter`	`not always but sometimes`
`00:12.23`	`Qwell`	`coppice: :p`
`00:12.23`	`smirl`	`Qwell: it can be. say, * running on a $30 ebay computer and x-lite free softphones... total cost $30.`
`00:12.38`	`blitzrage`	`[TK]D-Fender: totally agreed`
`00:12.41`	`Qwell`	`smirl: That isn't cheap, that's crap.`
`00:12.46`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: and cisco!`
`00:12.46`	`blitzrage`	`although I really like my 7960 :)`
`00:12.48`	`smirl`	`lol`
`00:12.52`	`asteriskmonkey`	`rob0: if you want cheap voip gear man let me know and ill link you :) i work for a telco distro`
`00:12.57`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage: switch to sccp, you'll love it. ;]`
`00:12.58`	`sivana`	`[TK]D-Fender: have you tried the 841s?`
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`00:13.05`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: switch TOO it eh?`
`00:13.07`	`smirl`	`'i'm expecting to get what i pay for' so i'm not expecting much`
`00:13.14`	`Qwell`	`TO`
`00:13.15`	`asteriskmonkey`	`the astraa phones are the bomb :)`
`00:13.16`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: did the sccp channel get good all of a sudden?`
`00:13.21`	`blitzrage`	`errr.. TO :)`
`00:13.25`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage: yeah, the one from berlios.de rocks`
`00:13.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : I didn't Cisco didn't make great phones its a question of what they're WORHT :) Too damn expensive. Poly beats them hands down there (legitmately)`
`00:13.42`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: nah, I don't agree`
`00:13.44`	`asteriskmonkey`	`i get poly 301's for like 150 canadian :D`
`00:14.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sivana : Nope, no 841... heard it felt like flimsy piece of junk`
`00:14.13`	`smirl`	`poly301's are on polycom's website for $134 US`
`00:14.25`	`sivana`	`[TK]D-Fender: I have one.. not bad.. but I don't have a 941 to compare with`
`00:14.36`	`sivana`	`my 941 is on back order right now`
`00:14.51`	`smirl`	`ok, lets see... lowest cost ATA...`
`00:15.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SPA-941 is, in every way I care to express, a baby Cisco.`
`00:15.10`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: no xml?`
`00:15.11`	`sivana`	`cool`
`00:15.42`	`asteriskmonkey`	`150cad is was less than 134us :D`
`00:15.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`smirl : Don't look for lowest cost. Look for best bang/buck with specific quality requirements. That means Sipura ATA's.`
`00:16.08`	`asteriskmonkey`	`but thats screws thanks :) ill let my boss know about that :)`
`00:16.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : No XML for transmitting requests tot he phone if thats what you mean, but the product si still evolving`
`00:16.30`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: can it do sccp? :D`
`00:16.34`	`asteriskmonkey`	`afk dairyqeen craving`
`00:16.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`asteriskmonkey : no its not.. the exchange rate is that good :)`
`00:16.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : Would I WANT it to? :) I like STANDARDS!`
`00:16.57`	`Qwell`	`sccp is a standard`
`00:17.14`	`Qwell`	`just like ie http is a standard :P`
`00:17.18`	`Qwell`	`html*`
`00:17.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Yeah, which only one company adheres to. The best part of * is the fact I can get hardware that will work for it and then take away and use almost ANYWHERE else I want to. SCCP does not "liberate" me.`
`00:17.54`	`asteriskmonkey`	`[TK]D-Fender: will let my boss know the manu is boning the disto wil have a better deal by end of week :D now of for junk food :D`
`00:18.13`	`Qwell`	`asteriskmonkey: That made NO sense`
`00:18.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`....I said pardon?!`
`00:18.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`No more junk food for you!`
`00:19.37`	`trixter`	`when you order a card from digium, any card it doesnt matter, does it come just in a static bag? Or is there generally additional packaging material? I got a card and wanted to know if it was normal`
`00:19.49`	`Qwell`	`trixter: yeah, it comes with a card`
`00:19.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : I can get a nice new IP 601 for $250. The equivalent, a 7960G, licensed with SIP will cost how much? :)`
`00:20.00`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: Why would you license SIP?`
`00:20.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Yes trixter, a bag chock full 'o' static!`
`00:20.34`	`Qwell`	`and, the answer is about $270, plus whatever a cheap account costs`
`00:20.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : Legitimacy? Upgrades? Support?`
`00:20.38`	`Qwell`	`$12 or something`
`00:21.03`	`Qwell`	`and you get support with it. ;]`
`00:21.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Where can you get a 7960G for that much new? And does it come with a power adapter or do you still have to buy that seperatey too?`
`00:21.39`	`Qwell`	`just about anywhere, now`
`00:21.47`	`Qwell`	`and, I don't think it does, but poe is recommended anyhow`
`00:21.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Really? I'll have to go look again...`
`00:22.07`	`rob0`	`Purity Of Essence ... Peace On Earth`
`00:22.10`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: They're about $250 direct from cisco I believe. I can check`
`00:22.25`	`*** part/#asterisk shmaltz (n=mybox@mail.dmaven.com)`
`00:22.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : True, its just tat Polycom gives you everything kinda up-front and you know you don't ahve to worry about maintenance or anything.`
`00:22.32`	`*** join/#asterisk shmaltz (n=mybox@mail.dmaven.com)`
`00:22.47`	`Qwell`	`Don't you have to like talk to a vendor in order to get polycom firmware?`
`00:23.03`	`Qwell`	`or was that something else?`
`00:23.36`	`shmaltz`	`Qwell, only the latest ones, but I think 1.5.x is available on their site`
`00:23.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : Sorta. Typically Polycom won't give it to you directly (less hassle for them), but you can get it legit from lots of places`
`00:23.52`	`Qwell`	`mmhmm`
`00:24.03`	`Qwell`	`CP-7960G= Cisco IP Phone 7960G, Global, Spare 1 USD 270.00`
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`00:24.12`	`shmaltz`	`looks like lists are still down :(`
`00:24.23`	`rob0`	`asteriskmonkey: /msg ?`
`00:24.52`	`Qwell`	`$322 for a 7961G`
`00:24.54`	`*** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@55.80-202-161.nextgentel.com)`
`00:25.03`	`Qwell`	`7961 is the new hotness`
`00:25.10`	`Qwell`	`and $205 for a 7940G`
`00:25.19`	`denon`	`whats new on the 7961?`
`00:25.24`	`denon`	`I havent been keepin up`
`00:25.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : Link please :)`
`00:25.27`	`Qwell`	`denon: besides the lit buttons?`
`00:25.29`	`Qwell`	`I have NO idea`
`00:25.31`	`denon`	`bahaha`
`00:25.37`	`denon`	`ok, lit buttons are worth nothing to me`
`00:25.39`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: need a cisco direct purchase account`
`00:25.42`	`denon`	`unless maybe it has a better backlight`
`00:25.49`	`Qwell`	`$257 for the 7941G`
`00:25.56`	`Qwell`	`denon: are you kidding me? the 7960 had no backlight, heh`
`00:26.14`	`denon`	`nod`
`00:26.18`	`denon`	`better == a`
`00:26.21`	`denon`	`brb, food`
`00:26.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:/`
`00:26.26`	`Qwell`	`it's all about the 7970 anyhow`
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`00:26.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BBIAB`
`00:26.46`	`Qwell`	`You can get them new for about $450-500`
`00:28.47`	`[hC]`	`cisco is re-releasing the 7940 and 7960 with backlights`
`00:28.55`	`Qwell`	`and gbit`
`00:29.01`	`Qwell`	`(not the same model)`
`00:29.12`	`Qwell`	`79x0G-GE = gbit`
`00:29.19`	`Qwell`	`79x1, rather`
`00:29.28`	`[hC]`	`yeah`
`00:29.40`	`Qwell`	`those are a bit pricey`
`00:29.51`	`Qwell`	`I think the gbit brings the 7971 up over $700 again`
`00:29.56`	`Qwell`	`(7971 is gbit only)`
`00:30.23`	`[hC]`	`yeah`
`00:30.26`	`Qwell`	`I want a 7985...`
`00:30.28`	`[hC]`	`I finally got my 7970 working well`
`00:30.35`	`Qwell`	`[hC]: chan_sccp from berlios.de?`
`00:30.37`	`[hC]`	`as in, usable`
`00:30.37`	`[hC]`	`yep`
`00:30.40`	`[hC]`	`cvs from there`
`00:30.41`	`Qwell`	`yeah, it's hot`
`00:30.49`	`Qwell`	`ooo, is my realtime code in his cvs yet?`
`00:30.56`	`[hC]`	`not sure :)`
`00:31.00`	`Qwell`	`if not, and you want realtime, I can hook you up`
`00:31.15`	`[hC]`	`now i just have to get this one 7914 expansion unit working, and thats the first and last i'll do, going to use polycom ip601's instead`
`00:31.23`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`00:31.50`	`Qwell`	`wait...`
`00:31.54`	`Qwell`	`does the 7914 work on the 7970?`
`00:32.34`	`[hC]`	`not sure`
`00:32.48`	`[hC]`	`i know it reportedly only works on the 7960 as long as the 7960 is running SCCP firmware`
`00:32.53`	`Qwell`	`yeah`
`00:33.06`	`Qwell`	`I've never heard reports of it working or not on 7940 or 7970`
`00:33.09`	`Sedorox`	`I'm still debating if the next IP phone I get should be a 601, or a wireless`
`00:33.21`	`Qwell`	`[hC]: If you do get it to work, I'd be interested to hear about it`
`00:33.27`	`shmaltz`	`why would make misterproper take soooooooooooooo loooooooooooooooooonggggggggggggggggggggggg?`
`00:33.35`	`[hC]`	`Qwell: cool.. not sure if im gonna bother trying, it has a 7960 its gonna be attached to now`
`00:33.38`	`Qwell`	`shmaltz: because it isn't as tough acting as mrclean`
`00:33.44`	`Qwell`	`ahh`
`00:33.49`	`[hC]`	`id prefer using hints than doing it the way the 7914 wants everything statically defined`
`00:34.00`	`Qwell`	`7914 can't use hints?`
`00:34.06`	`[hC]`	`not that im aware`
`00:34.14`	`Qwell`	`I use hints on my 60s`
`00:34.21`	`[hC]`	`oh really?`
`00:34.24`	`Qwell`	`as long as I don't use DND, it works great. heh`
`00:34.24`	`[hC]`	`hmm maybe it does`
`00:34.26`	`[hC]`	`i didnt look to ohard.`
`00:34.31`	`Qwell`	`add it to the speeddial line`
`00:35.25`	`Qwell`	`DND + hints + chan_sccp == currently funky`
`00:35.41`	`[hC]`	`honestly, ive not implemented hints anywhere yet,... i just didnt think the ciscos/sccp did it`
`00:35.54`	`Qwell`	`I think it's fairly new for chan_sccp`
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`00:36.11`	`[hC]`	`from what i understand, hints are just used for line indications on other extensions right?`
`00:36.18`	`[hC]`	`like to show onhook/offhook/busy, etc`
`00:36.19`	`Qwell`	`pretty much`
`00:36.30`	`shmaltz`	`Qwll, I hate earrings :P`
`00:36.40`	`Qwell`	`shmaltz: mrproper has earrings too`
`00:37.02`	`shmaltz`	`Qwell, nah could be hanv't seen a pic of him lateley :)`
`00:37.14`	`Qwell`	`shmaltz: mr clean == mr proper`
`00:37.16`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`00:37.21`	`shmaltz`	`lol`
`00:37.56`	`trixter`	`as a ETEL BOF speaker I cna get tickets for $200 (only 2 though) so if anyone wants to goto http://conferences.oreilly.com/etel lemme know if you want a $200 ticket`
`00:38.08`	`Qwell`	`trixter: giving away tickets? :D`
`00:38.41`	`trixter`	`at a discount over the $1800 or whatever price, yes`
`00:38.42`	`shmaltz`	`trixter, whats the MSRP on those?`
`00:38.51`	`Qwell`	`wow`
`00:38.56`	`Qwell`	`pricey`
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`00:39.08`	`trixter`	`yeah, which is why I thought some people might like a discount`
`00:39.51`	`trixter`	`iirc they were $1500 until dec 5`
`00:40.10`	`Qwell`	`What is ETEL? Too lazy to click a link`
`00:40.17`	`smirl`	`anyone ever done the video patch on asterisk ?`
`00:40.20`	`trixter`	`oreillys emerging tlephony conference`
`00:40.33`	`trixter`	`jan 24-26 in burlingame (suburb to san francisco)`
`00:40.52`	`trixter`	`about half the lectures are on asterisk, others are on varied topics`
`00:40.53`	`shmaltz`	`how do I start asterisk on a nice -10 ?`
`00:40.56`	`Qwell`	`I think somebody said they were going to that...`
`00:41.02`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage?`
`00:41.30`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: tuh?`
`00:41.30`	`Qwell`	`shmaltz: nice -n -10 asterisk?`
`00:41.38`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage: Didn't you say you were going to ETEL?`
`00:41.41`	`Qwell`	`maybe it wasn't you :p`
`00:41.51`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: nope -- I'm going to Internet Telephony (its the same week)`
`00:41.58`	`Qwell`	`ahh, right, okay`
`00:42.01`	`shmaltz`	`Qwell, so all I have to do is modify safe_asterisk like that?`
`00:42.03`	`Qwell`	`SJ, right?`
`00:42.09`	`Qwell`	`shmaltz: sure`
`00:42.19`	`trixter`	`that seems bad on someones part to have two conferences on basically the same subject the same week`
`00:42.21`	`blitzrage`	`Jim van Meggelen and Kristian Kielhofner will be at ETEL though`
`00:42.23`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage: go to both. :p`
`00:42.39`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: heh :) One in FL and one in SF, CA -- gonna be hard :)`
`00:42.47`	`Qwell`	`oh, was it FL? heh`
`00:42.57`	`blitzrage`	`IT will be`
`00:43.13`	`Qwell`	`I was way off then. I thought you said SJ`
`00:43.31`	`Qwell`	`nevermind me then ;]`
`00:43.39`	`blitzrage`	`holy crap -- OpenZaurus has SER`
`00:43.50`	`blitzrage`	`which means my PDA can run SER...`
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`00:43.56`	`blitzrage`	`nifty :)`
`00:43.57`	`Qwell`	`Why wou...nevermind`
`00:44.03`	`blitzrage`	`lol`
`00:44.21`	`Qwell`	`Wouldn't a softphone be just slightly better? heh`
`00:44.40`	`Qwell`	`It'd be like a nintendo doing your routing`
`00:44.52`	`blitzrage`	`:)`
`00:44.55`	`blitzrage`	`c00l! :)`
`00:45.02`	`trixter`	`mark spencer is gonna be at etel`
`00:45.09`	`blitzrage`	`and at IT :)`
`00:45.09`	`trixter`	`if anyone cares about meeting him`
`00:45.12`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: he's doing both :)`
`00:45.16`	`Qwell`	`wtf`
`00:45.22`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage: How can he do it, and you can't? :P`
`00:45.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : So what is required for someone like me to get the same pricing you quoted?`
`00:45.31`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: well, he'll fly from one to the other`
`00:45.34`	`Qwell`	`Guess you just aren't magical like him, heh`
`00:45.42`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: dunno, be a direct purchase customer`
`00:45.57`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: Schuyler is going to IT -- so we're gonna chill there`
`00:46.00`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: call Adrian Sims at Cisco...he won't return my calls. :P`
`00:46.08`	`Qwell`	`maybe he'll return yours, heh`
`00:46.25`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage: whosat?`
`00:46.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell.... thank you for that little piece of ... enlightenment :/`
`00:47.21`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: like nothing`
`00:47.24`	`Qwell`	`afaik`
`00:47.49`	`Qwell`	`It's just difficult, heh`
`00:47.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Hmmm. So create an account, log in and buy? Thats it?`
`00:47.58`	`Qwell`	`not quite`
`00:48.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Difficult? Its easy for me to buy from Atacomm :)`
`00:48.07`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: he's just one of the digium guys`
`00:48.16`	`Qwell`	`atacomm charges a bit more too`
`00:48.20`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage: oh`
`00:48.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`A bit more perhaps, but "no questions asked".`
`00:48.44`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: depends on how many you're gonna buy, I guess`
`00:48.55`	`Qwell`	`30...40...500...it adds up after a while`
`00:49.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I suppose.`
`00:49.55`	`Qwell`	`and I doubt atacomm could fulfill an order for 500, in short order`
`00:50.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Its just hard to recommend them on average becuase of the ... wel... "clauses"`
`00:50.09`	`Qwell`	`yeah...`
`00:50.15`	`tasat`	`can anyone point me to an up to date tutorial on creating a gem package for rails apps?`
`00:50.22`	`Qwell`	`I'm still unclear on whether you need a ccm license for the ciscos, if you're using asterisk`
`00:50.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : Quite possible. I am talking more "end-customer" thinking than resellers.`
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`00:51.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Cisco could re-enter my good books one day.`
`00:51.36`	`stormfr`	`hello, is somebody have successfull connect AG with chan_bluetooth ?`
`00:53.46`	`Qwell`	`bbl`
`00:54.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`You know... I just got a bluetooth phone... chan_bluetooth is looking like a good idea for me now...`
`01:00.34`	`irieKEN`	`Hey fender, what's up?`
`01:00.38`	`*** join/#asterisk implicit (n=implicit@179233155.rjo.virtua.com.br)`
`01:00.39`	`irieKEN`	`*D-Fender`
`01:01.28`	`*** join/#asterisk dippo (n=cwage@quietlife.net)`
`01:02.22`	`irieKEN`	`Anyone in the room up for a question?:) What's better, a Polycom IP400 (yes, a 400), or a Sipura SPA-841?`
`01:02.50`	`implicit`	`irieKEN, a Snom 360`
`01:03.10`	`irieKEN`	`Ok, let me look that up.`
`01:03.18`	`implicit`	`by far`
`01:03.23`	`implicit`	`they are not even in the same league`
`01:04.39`	`implicit`	`199.95 at atacomm.com`
`01:05.12`	`tzanger`	`sivana: apparently the toronto connection to get the server up dropped the ball, he's gonna talk to you tomorrow`
`01:05.33`	`implicit`	`sivana, hwo are you`
`01:05.44`	`irieKEN`	`Thanks:)`
`01:06.13`	`implicit`	`irieKEN, sure thing ;)`
`01:06.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Well... the 400 isn't on anyones road-map (road-KILL maybe :))`
`01:06.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`irieKEN : I don't know the IP 400 off-hand`
`01:06.32`	`sivana`	`tzanger: ok`
`01:06.36`	`irieKEN`	`Ah.`
`01:06.36`	`sivana`	`implicit: good, you?`
`01:06.44`	`Ariel_`	`hello everyone`
`01:06.48`	`implicit`	`sivana, good man, in Rio right now`
`01:06.49`	`sivana`	`tzanger: is the box already in his hands?`
`01:06.53`	`implicit`	`Ipanema`
`01:06.59`	`irieKEN`	`Well, we have an IP400, and a couple SPA-841s... we're trying to figure out which ones to keep.`
`01:07.04`	`tzanger`	`not sure I had no idea what to ask hiim or what the plan was originally :-)`
`01:07.20`	`sivana`	`tzanger: I was just waiting for him to send me the credentials to log in :)`
`01:07.36`	`sivana`	`he said he would load the basic OS and put it online`
`01:07.37`	`tzanger`	`oh`
`01:07.45`	`tzanger`	`he was talking about getting it physically shipped up to you??!`
`01:07.47`	`sivana`	`and I guess I would do the rest remotely`
`01:07.51`	`sivana`	`no`
`01:08.01`	`sivana`	`is that what he talked to you about? :)`
`01:08.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I think SUPPORTR will be a problem with the IP 400. Not so with the 941, so guess who wins MY vote?`
`01:08.37`	`implicit`	`[TK]D-Fender, Snom360?`
`01:08.43`	`implicit`	`[TK]D-Fender, the obviously superior choice?`
`01:08.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`If you're even debating betweent he IP 400 & 841, then the 941 wins for sure.`
`01:08.51`	`tzanger`	`no it seemed he was getting the box shipped to you`
`01:08.57`	`dippo`	`anyone know why when I call into asterisk and hit # for the directory it just repeats "no directory entries matched your search" over and over`
`01:08.58`	`sivana`	`oh.. that's cool too`
`01:09.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Snom? bleh`
`01:09.01`	`dippo`	`or what might cause that`
`01:09.09`	`sivana`	`but I leave on Sat until Jan 5th.. so that sucks :)`
`01:09.15`	`sivana`	`I was hoping to bring it online this week`
`01:09.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Shitty screens, little advantage on their side. No "reason" to want them.`
`01:09.37`	`implicit`	`[TK]D-Fender, have you ever actually used theM?`
`01:09.46`	`tzanger`	`unless he was talking about getting it shipped to him, I have no idea`
`01:09.53`	`implicit`	`[TK]D-Fender, tons of features, very solid, good multiline support, very very configurable`
`01:10.02`	`implicit`	`[TK]D-Fender, + they ahve TLS & SRTP support`
`01:10.05`	`sivana`	`tzanger: no problem... I'll call him tomorrow`
`01:10.13`	`implicit`	`[TK]D-Fender, excellent build quality`
`01:10.22`	`irieKEN`	`The snom 360 is twice as much as the sipura;)`
`01:10.30`	`implicit`	`irieKEN, its only 199 man`
`01:10.36`	`implicit`	`buy 10 and its 189`
`01:10.45`	`Ariel_`	`strange the IP-400 is not a listed phone on polycom's site any more. Why would you get one of those phones when the IP-501 is so great.`
`01:10.50`	`irieKEN`	`Yes, I'de rather have a lexus, but my boss is personally going to pick up the tab for these things;)`
`01:11.13`	`shmaltz`	`~bleh`
`01:11.14`	`jbot`	`bleh means insert appropriate value here. see blah`
`01:11.21`	`implicit`	`~fuck`
`01:11.22`	`jbot`	`hmm... fuck is You should probably try a replacement word like fetch`
`01:11.25`	`Ariel_`	`I good middle ground is the Sipura Spa-941 phone.`
`01:11.33`	`shmaltz`	`~blah`
`01:11.34`	`jbot`	`i heard blah is X`
`01:11.45`	`sivana`	`~shmaltz`
`01:11.46`	`jbot`	`somebody said shmaltz was annoying the channel by playing with jbot`
`01:12.20`	`irieKEN`	`Ok, koo.`
`01:12.20`	`shmaltz`	`http://www.lifeisajoke.com/Bush/bush_sixthsense.jpg`
`01:12.20`	`irieKEN`	`BTW, what makes the 941 so much better than the 841?`
`01:12.21`	`shmaltz`	`sivana, I'm glad you got a good memory :P`
`01:12.26`	`irieKEN`	`Grrr, I'm VNCd into my workstation.... stop typing so fast;)`
`01:12.29`	`shmaltz`	`irieKEN, you have an 841?`
`01:12.33`	`implicit`	`irieKEN, just look at the picture`
`01:12.42`	`*** join/#asterisk TheCops (i=nobody@got.securebinary.com)`
`01:12.51`	`irieKEN`	`Ok, I will.`
`01:12.52`	`implicit`	`~shmaltz is a dumbass?`
`01:12.55`	`jbot`	`...but shmaltz is already something else...`
`01:13.06`	`implicit`	`what is shmaltz?`
`01:13.06`	`Ariel_`	`941 speaker phone works. It's looks and feels like a real phone.`
`01:13.09`	`implicit`	`~shmaltz`
`01:13.10`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, shmaltz is annoying the channel by playing with jbot`
`01:13.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Better lit line keys, more soft-keys, much better speakerphone, major improvement in the button feel (it IS a Cisco phone). weighted handset, larger screen with better res, and the list goes on.`
`01:13.18`	`irieKEN`	`Yep, I see.`
`01:13.21`	`implicit`	`i bet that rumour is true`
`01:13.25`	`irieKEN`	`Ok...`
`01:13.30`	`implicit`	`irieKEN, 841 is pretty shitty`
`01:13.35`	`shmaltz`	`implicit, you republican?`
`01:13.46`	`implicit`	`no, why do you ask?`
`01:13.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`The 841 was a nice idea... but made too cheap.`
`01:13.55`	`Ariel_`	`shmaltz, no I don't 841 are better then the GS 10X`
`01:13.58`	`shmaltz`	`so why do you think I'm a dumbass?`
`01:13.59`	`implicit`	`shmaltz, no political party`
`01:14.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Here, go read : http://voipspeak.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27`
`01:14.09`	`shmaltz`	`oh I get it, because you are democaratic`
`01:14.19`	`implicit`	`shmaltz, cause you have no idea what you are talking about`
`01:14.45`	`irieKEN`	`Ok, so if the question is SPA-941 vs Polycom IP500 or IP501, which is the winner?`
`01:14.48`	`shmaltz`	`ARiel_, I can't disagree on that one, so here it is: anything is better than any grandstream, anything else is better than the 841`
`01:15.00`	`shmaltz`	`implicit, about what?`
`01:15.07`	`implicit`	`shmaltz, not true, 841 has bad EMI issues`
`01:15.07`	`Ariel_`	`shmaltz, ok I almost agree`
`01:15.17`	`sivana`	`darn.. I just ordered 4 x 841s :)`
`01:15.18`	`implicit`	`much worse than grandstream`
`01:15.23`	`shmaltz`	`ARiel_, lol`
`01:15.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`irieKEN : I'd say the 50x. It has dual eth ports, PoE possible (at extr cost though), and a few other minor perks.`
`01:15.43`	`TheCops`	`Someone is using sixtel via SIP ?!`
`01:15.45`	`shmaltz`	`implicit, but you said I'm a dumbass before I said that`
`01:15.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`But if budget is an issue I'd have problem recomending either.`
`01:16.01`	`sivana`	`shmaltz: he was trying to program that into jbot :)`
`01:16.04`	`Ariel_`	`sivana, long time no see. How are you?`
`01:16.08`	`shmaltz`	`sivana, I know`
`01:16.09`	`sivana`	`good, you?`
`01:16.18`	`implicit`	`shmaltz, i would venture to say that the build quality of the 841 is WORSE than the grandstream, only thing it has over the grandstream are the rubber buttons`
`01:16.21`	`shmaltz`	`poor implicti has no clue how to add something to jbot :P`
`01:16.28`	`Ariel_`	`sivana, great in a new house. Trying to get things organized.`
`01:16.35`	`shmaltz`	`implicit, but why the dumbass comment?`
`01:16.42`	`sivana`	`Ariel_: cool`
`01:16.47`	`irieKEN`	`So, for under $130, what is the best phone that you could live with?`
`01:16.47`	`h3x`	`no way`
`01:16.51`	`h3x`	`the 841 sounds a lot better than a gxp2000`
`01:16.52`	`implicit`	`~shmaltz`
`01:17.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`irieKEN : If I didn't care about speakerphone I'd say IP 301.`
`01:17.17`	`sivana`	`jbot implicit is a weirdo`
`01:17.18`	`jbot`	`cannot alter locked factoids, sivana`
`01:17.23`	`h3x`	`hahaha`
`01:17.25`	`implicit`	`~shmaltz loves transvestite hookers`
`01:17.31`	`implicit`	`~shmaltz`
`01:17.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Its still a Polycom and has dual eth and good SIP support.`
`01:17.39`	`sivana`	`~implicit`
`01:17.41`	`jbot`	`i heard implicit is fun`
`01:17.41`	`Ariel_`	`I like the 841 better then the GS, but for just a the way it works at that price I would get a Polycom IP-301`
`01:17.45`	`sivana`	`heh`
`01:17.47`	`implicit`	`:)`
`01:17.53`	`irieKEN`	`I like girls in suits... but that tdoesn't help answer my question:P`
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`01:18.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`implicit : You are consuming valuable oxygen. Get the hell off my biosphere :]`
`01:18.30`	`implicit`	`[TK]D-Fender, suck your mother's dick`
`01:18.37`	`irieKEN`	`Ok, so anyone else second the IP301?`
`01:18.44`	`implicit`	`[TK]D-Fender, your mother that has one that is`
`01:19.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sigh`
`01:19.47`	`Ariel_`	`irieKEN, it's a good cheap phone but it's no IP-501 which is my pick for phone I get them for around $ 172.00 now. the IP-501 that is.`
`01:19.51`	`implicit`	`fuck,[tk]d-fenderknowshowtosigh`
`01:20.24`	`irieKEN`	`I have an IP500, and I'm not sure I like it.`
`01:20.28`	`implicit`	`Ariel_, compare it to the snom480`
`01:20.40`	`implicit`	`Ariel_, have you seen the samples?`
`01:20.51`	`irieKEN`	`It does weird things... and the screen scrambles (and locks the thing up) every once and a while.`
`01:21.01`	`irieKEN`	`But, mine might be defective anyways.`
`01:21.02`	`Ariel_`	`implicit, I have not used snom's after the 190's. Which I did not like due to it's too light.`
`01:21.11`	`implicit`	`190 is not good`
`01:21.15`	`implicit`	`i would agree with you for sure`
`01:22.00`	`TheCops`	`What's the best VoIP Adapter ?`
`01:22.05`	`irieKEN`	`Ok, 301 for a cheap phone, a 501 for a nice one?:)`
`01:22.07`	`Ariel_`	`but I any location I have setup the IP-500/501 or 600/601 has gotten me great marks. There about the best all around phones for the price. At least for me.`
`01:22.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`irieKEN : the IP 500 is a solid phone. If you need more I'd be surprised. Since you can get a 501 for $170, an SPA-941 for $150, and an IP 301 for $114 its a toss-up`
`01:23.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TheCops : As in ATA? Any Sipura will do.`
`01:23.19`	`irieKEN`	`Now, with the IP500, if I'm behind a nat, and I can't get it to register on the * server (I can make outgoing calls though), any ideas how I would go about fixing th eproblem?`
`01:23.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`they are also amongst the more affordable.`
`01:23.26`	`irieKEN`	`<-- WIth an IP500`
`01:23.33`	`blitzrage`	`<-- IP500`
`01:23.47`	`Ariel_`	`irieKEN, have you set it up via ftp or via the web?`
`01:23.58`	`TheCops`	`[TK]D-Fender, any model is working great ?`
`01:23.58`	`irieKEN`	`VIA FTP.`
`01:24.01`	`Ariel_`	`TheCops, I love my sipura's ATA's`
`01:24.07`	`blitzrage`	`the web interface is useless`
`01:24.08`	`irieKEN`	`I tried setting up via web too.`
`01:24.14`	`TheCops`	`Ariel_, What's the model you have ?`
`01:24.26`	`Ariel_`	`irieKEN, hummm. I have many up and running and they just plain work.`
`01:24.42`	`irieKEN`	`And, the softkey interface is junk... it shows the settings, but it still keeps whatever settings it had before:(`
`01:24.44`	`Ariel_`	`TheCops, I use the 1001 and the 2002 I stay away from the 2100 it's buggy`
`01:25.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`All Sipura ATA's seem the same to me. Same web interface, functionality, everything.`
`01:25.43`	`asteriskmonkey`	`back :D`
`01:25.51`	`h3x`	`t.38 fax on the 2100 tho`
`01:25.52`	`h3x`	`heh`
`01:25.56`	`Ariel_`	`[TK]D-Fender, yes most are. But the 2100 has that stupid router in it'`
`01:25.56`	`irieKEN`	`WB, Monkey:)`
`01:26.02`	`TheCops`	`Ariel_, dial plan is not very well documented for sipura`
`01:26.02`	`[hC]`	`man. why is it that setting up sip peers always tends to be 10x more confusing than IAX peers`
`01:26.03`	`implicit`	`h3x, for sure`
`01:26.06`	`implicit`	`Ariel_, don't hate`
`01:26.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Only difference is # ports, FXO on the 3000, gateway feature (a BAD thing a lot of the time), etc`
`01:26.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SPA-2002 <-`
`01:26.33`	`implicit`	`[TK]D-Fender, you are just talking out of a combination of your ass and sipura website`
`01:26.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TheCops : Sipura uses largely standard MGCP RFC dialplans. Quite eay to read...`
`01:26.59`	`TheCops`	`ok, never learned`
`01:27.08`	`Ariel_`	`implicit, I don't hate it. I just think it's not something they created correctly.`
`01:27.10`	`irieKEN`	`Ariel: I'm behnd a NAT though... I think that's what's causing most of my problems:(`
`01:27.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`implicit : I'm talking from the experience of running an all-Sipura setup at home, and a half-dozen devices at my office.`
`01:28.39`	`implicit`	`[TK]D-Fender, which is a lot of experience in your opinion? Knowing how to open up a config page on a dozen devices doesn't say much`
`01:28.40`	`Ariel_`	`irieKEN, so am I`
`01:28.53`	`irieKEN`	`Hmm.`
`01:29.04`	`implicit`	`irieKEN, register to SER, use nathelper & rtpproxy and get rid of your nat issues forever`
`01:29.18`	`irieKEN`	`I'm new to this, so I probably screwed up a setting somewhere.`
`01:29.24`	`Ariel_`	`implicit, ser is not always the answer.`
`01:29.33`	`Ariel_`	`but you can do the same with a good proxy server`
`01:29.34`	`implicit`	`irieKEN, just cause chan_sip sucks balls doesn't mean that SIP itself has a problem with NAT traversal`
`01:29.50`	`Qwell`	`chan_sip works just fine with nat`
`01:29.52`	`implicit`	`Ariel_, SER is a good answer much of the time because it is fast, flexible, and free`
`01:30.17`	`irieKEN`	`I don't know what's causing the problem; I just know that I can make calls, but not reciev them.`
`01:30.20`	`Ariel_`	`implicit, and it's hell to get working ....(I hate it's scripting)`
`01:30.20`	`implicit`	`Qwell, if you consider needless restreaming of media on asymmetrically nated clients good, then yeah`
`01:30.27`	`implicit`	`Qwell, but that is just a waste in my opinion`
`01:30.58`	`implicit`	`Ariel_, you just need to learn the syntax, many people love it, it's very clean`
`01:31.02`	`irieKEN`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:31.06`	`implicit`	`Ariel_, * dialplan is much more messay`
`01:31.11`	`Qwell`	`implicit: looked at AEL?`
`01:31.13`	`Qwell`	`It's hot`
`01:31.14`	`implicit`	`irieKEN, check out getting started guide 5 on onsip.org`
`01:31.16`	`Ariel_`	`implicit, it's ok. I have other things to work on`
`01:31.29`	`irieKEN`	`Ok, will do.`
`01:31.35`	`implicit`	`Ariel_, wasn't asking you to work on it, just letting you know`
`01:31.42`	`implicit`	`Qwell, no i havn't`
`01:31.45`	`Ariel_`	`irieKEN, you can sometimes use xten's stun server for your problem. it's free there is also another one at fwd`
`01:31.51`	`implicit`	`Qwell, link?`
`01:31.58`	`Qwell`	`implicit: extensions.ael.sample`
`01:32.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`AEL? Meh.... means well but isn't any smarter than standaard logic. I'll stick with the regular stuff thill the add something ov greater value to it.`
`01:32.06`	`Ariel_`	`implicit, I have setup 4 ser already I know how it works just fine.`
`01:32.13`	`implicit`	`irieKEN, Ariel_, it won't get you around symmetric nat though, so be careful`
`01:32.27`	`irieKEN`	`Which cfg file are stun settings stored for the SoundPoint phones/`
`01:32.32`	`Ariel_`	`implicit, correct but it's a start for some`
`01:33.00`	`implicit`	`Ariel_, knowing SER and knowing how to set it up in to work in a very limited scope is different, but i'm not arguing over your knowledge on the topic anyway`
`01:33.47`	`Ariel_`	`implicit, it's ok. I don't mind. I just been working on them for more then 3 years now...`
`01:35.05`	`implicit`	`talk to you guys later, i'm going to go to the jacuzzi for a few :)`
`01:35.18`	`irieKEN`	`Have fun:)`
`01:35.19`	`Ariel_`	`SER has it's place along with Asterisk. Just because it's good with sip does not mean it's the best. There are lots of different ways to do things. It's just depends on what you setup and how many users.`
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`01:36.09`	`salviadud`	`there's nothing 1337 about BitchX is there...?`
`01:38.37`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`01:38.53`	`Qwell`	`raping lawn gnomes == 1337`
`01:39.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:{`
`01:39.10`	`Qwell`	`That was supposed to be a question`
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`01:46.28`	`DrDeke`	`Hey everyone; after a call that I Dial()ed using the L option gets ended because of reaching the time limit, is there any way I can have the call continue on in the dialplan to do some post-call processing, instead of getting hung up and terminated at the end of the Dial() command? I tried adding the 'g' option, but it did not appear to have any effect.`
`01:48.13`	`Ariel_`	`add the h into the dial plan and it should do what you need to do with it.`
`01:48.27`	`DrDeke`	`# h: Allow the callee to hang up by dialing * (??)`
`01:48.30`	`Qwell`	`the h exten`
`01:48.33`	`DrDeke`	`ohhhhh`
`01:48.36`	`DrDeke`	`oh ok`
`01:49.15`	`Ariel_`	`h is default for that hangup. You can run clean up macro's or even agi's to do just about anything you need from it.`
`01:49.30`	`Qwell`	`(deadagi)`
`01:49.35`	`DrDeke`	`right, right, thanks`
`01:49.39`	`DrDeke`	`I don't know why I didn't think of that :)`
`01:49.41`	`Qwell`	`or, is the channel still alive enough for a regular agi?`
`01:49.45`	`Ariel_`	`don't you just love taht deadagi`
`01:49.50`	`DrDeke`	`no, it seems to go dead dead dead :`
`01:49.51`	`DrDeke`	`:)`
`01:50.01`	`DrDeke`	`yeah deadagi will be very handy now that I know how to call it :0`
`01:50.02`	`DrDeke`	`:)`
`01:50.05`	`DrDeke`	`(from h exten)`
`01:51.00`	`*** join/#asterisk Darwin35 (n=Darwin@c-24-8-199-118.hsd1.co.comcast.net)`
`01:51.14`	`Darwin35`	`ok I need help with odbc problem`
`01:52.10`	`Darwin35`	`I built a box to do realtime and fax`
`01:52.20`	`Darwin35`	`using odbc`
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`01:52.44`	`Darwin35`	`but its a 6.0 box . and for somereason its not connecting to the server`
`01:52.49`	`Qwell`	`mog_home: !`
`01:53.03`	`mog_home`	`qwell!`
`01:53.07`	`Darwin35`	`I have checked the files and setups`
`01:53.18`	`Darwin35`	`they match for 5.4 and the 6.0 box`
`01:53.38`	`Darwin35`	`yet the 6.0 wont connect`
`01:54.20`	`Qwell`	`Darwin35: Are you still connecting to localhost?`
`01:55.06`	`shmaltz`	`http://www.internetisshit.org/`
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`01:57.04`	`Darwin35`	`yes and I have looked threw all the file and there is no local host defined`
`01:57.18`	`Qwell`	`Darwin35: including the odbc configs?`
`01:57.23`	`Darwin35`	`yes`
`01:57.27`	`Qwell`	`odbc.ini and odbcinst.ini`
`01:57.47`	`Qwell`	`Darwin35: What errors are you getting now?`
`01:58.05`	`Darwin35`	`login in hold on`
`01:58.11`	`Qwell`	`oh, and...there is a hostname SET, right? because I believe it defaults to localhost`
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`01:59.53`	`Darwin35`	`Dec 18 18:59:03 WARNING[3798]: res_odbc.c:563 odbc_obj_connect: res_odbc: Error SQLConnect=-1 errno=1045 [MySQL][ODBC 3.51 Driver]Access denied for user 'teliax'@'localhost' (using password: YES)`
`01:59.53`	`Darwin35`	`Dec 18 18:59:03 NOTICE[3798]: res_odbc.c:294 load_odbc_config: registered database handle 'DSNextensions' dsn->[DSNextensions]`
`01:59.53`	`Darwin35`	`Dec 18 18:59:03 NOTICE[3798]: res_odbc.c:552 odbc_obj_connect: Connecting DSNextensions`
`02:00.06`	`Qwell`	`localhost`
`02:00.09`	`Darwin35`	`and they are the right password and username`
`02:00.11`	`shmaltz`	`~gb`
`02:00.12`	`jbot`	`somebody said gb was an abbreviation for GigaByte. And also for Great Britain. Has also been associated with great beer & as an acronym for gurubonz.`
`02:00.14`	`Qwell`	`but wrong host`
`02:00.32`	`shmaltz`	`~gb is also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibibyte`
`02:00.34`	`jbot`	`shmaltz: cannot alter locked factoids`
`02:00.41`	`Darwin35`	`the host is set to cdb4.home.com`
`02:00.43`	`Qwell`	`~unlock gb`
`02:00.43`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`02:00.47`	`Qwell`	`aww, denied`
`02:00.55`	`shmaltz`	`~gb is also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibibyte`
`02:00.56`	`jbot`	`cannot alter locked factoids, shmaltz`
`02:00.58`	`Qwell`	`Darwin35: in what config? how?`
`02:01.02`	`DrDeke`	`Ok, regarding the 'h' extension for post-call cleanup... I added it and it "works," but if the call is ended because the caller or the callee hung up, the CDR records the dialed number as the dialed number. But if the call ends because it reached the time limit, the CDR record shows that the "dialed extension"`
`02:01.07`	`Qwell`	`shmaltz: jbot yelled at me :(`
`02:01.15`	`shmaltz`	`lol`
`02:01.16`	`DrDeke`	`is the extention that led up to the Dial() statement, instead of the actual number Dial()ed`
`02:02.49`	`Darwin35`	`odbc.ini SERVER = cdb4.home.com`
`02:03.58`	`Darwin35`	`home is just the nam eI use to display`
`02:04.02`	`trixter`	`DrDeke: maybe you need to do something with the t exention, maybe set the accounting stuff elsewhere`
`02:04.44`	`DrDeke`	`trixter: good idea; I will check into that`
`02:05.11`	`Darwin35`	`where else might I check`
`02:06.45`	`Darwin35`	`qwell you willing to look t the box for a min`
`02:06.56`	`Qwell`	`Darwin35: another time perhaps...`
`02:09.52`	`file[laptop]`	`argh, I think I turned the heat up too high`
`02:09.56`	`file[laptop]`	`but I'm too lazy to get out of bed`
`02:09.56`	`DrDeke`	`hehe uh-oh`
`02:10.03`	`Darwin35`	`ok well I was hoping to have it fixed by tomarrow`
`02:10.07`	`file[laptop]`	`someone fly here, put it down a few degrees, and fly back`
`02:10.20`	`DrDeke`	`paypal me the $$ for a ticket... ;)`
`02:10.29`	`file[laptop]`	`hrm, how's payment by muffins sound?`
`02:10.32`	`DrDeke`	`off your ph4t voip l3wt earnings or something :)`
`02:10.42`	`Darwin35`	`get a remote control themastat`
`02:10.46`	`DrDeke`	`i dont know, it seems like it might take a lot of muffins to rent an airplane seat ;)`
`02:11.18`	`Qwell`	`Darwin35: ask me tonight if you're still around`
`02:11.21`	`file[laptop]`	`darn`
`02:11.27`	`Darwin35`	`ok`
`02:11.28`	`DrDeke`	`i agree`
`02:11.37`	`DrDeke`	`perhaps you could hold a bake sale, not to buy me a bomber, but just a regular coach seat`
`02:11.41`	`DrDeke`	`like the air force`
`02:11.44`	`Darwin35`	`what time is where your at/`
`02:11.53`	`Darwin35`	`its 7:10 here pm`
`02:13.40`	`Qwell`	`Darwin35: like 6`
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`02:13.53`	`Darwin35`	`ok`
`02:14.02`	`Darwin35`	`your out qwest`
`02:18.40`	`Druken`	`anyone have experince with the gnet iax2 ata ?`
`02:22.04`	`Darwin35`	`isit the pa168 based unit ?`
`02:23.04`	`Druken`	`yep`
`02:23.12`	`Darwin35`	`ok whats the issue`
`02:23.25`	`Druken`	`no issue... just wondering if anyone has used it`
`02:23.26`	`Darwin35`	`what flash ver`
`02:23.37`	`Druken`	`1.45.009 ?`
`02:23.52`	`Darwin35`	`1.49 is out`
`02:24.00`	`Darwin35`	`aredfox.com`
`02:24.20`	`Darwin35`	`I love the pa168 chipset`
`02:24.21`	`Druken`	`any major faxies?`
`02:24.27`	`Darwin35`	`my iax phone is based on it`
`02:24.30`	`Druken`	`fixes`
`02:24.43`	`Darwin35`	`loads of small issues`
`02:24.51`	`Darwin35`	`they have a list`
`02:24.51`	`Druken`	`yeah... i noticed the firmware looks simular to my voip phone...`
`02:27.09`	`Darwin35`	`III have a Yughen iax2 phone`
`02:27.38`	`Druken`	`i got a phone about a year ago from pcphoneline.com that does iax`
`02:27.47`	`Druken`	`i've never used it tho...`
`02:27.55`	`Darwin35`	`I got mine from iarea phone`
`02:28.30`	`Darwin35`	`you can flash it sip if you want`
`02:28.36`	`Darwin35`	`and use it`
`02:28.43`	`Darwin35`	`or mgcp`
`02:28.54`	`DrDeke`	`aggggh the deathcopter is flying over my apartment again`
`02:29.02`	`Darwin35`	`I have used both sip and iax flash`
`02:29.15`	`Darwin35`	`DR they found you run`
`02:29.21`	`DrDeke`	`hehe`
`02:29.30`	`DrDeke`	`nah this is not that kind of deathcopter... it's the hospitalcopter`
`02:29.51`	`DrDeke`	`so i guess it is really more of an antideathcopter`
`02:29.53`	`Druken`	`they call those bandaid here :)`
`02:29.54`	`DrDeke`	`but that is too long to say`
`02:29.55`	`DrDeke`	`:)`
`02:29.58`	`Darwin35`	`ahh ok I thought it was the pigs`
`02:30.10`	`DrDeke`	`nah nah, when the pigs try to get at you, you just have to drop it like it's hot =)`
`02:30.16`	`Darwin35`	`or the black ops`
`02:30.39`	`DrDeke`	`oh, umm, we don't have anything like that that happens here in america. looks around innocently`
`02:30.57`	`DrDeke`	`you know, secret wiretaps`
`02:30.58`	`DrDeke`	`black ops`
`02:30.59`	`DrDeke`	`that kind of thing :)`
`02:31.30`	`Druken`	`must upgrade firmware...`
`02:32.09`	`Darwin35`	`all my firmware is updated. and has the plan to come up with scrambling`
`02:32.31`	`Druken`	`:)`
`02:32.42`	`Druken`	`i'm just trying out this unit... first one i've gotten...`
`02:35.39`	`Darwin35`	`they are nice`
`02:35.44`	`Darwin35`	`iax is nice`
`02:35.54`	`asteriskmonkey`	`shoot, after i upgrade to 1.2 my cdr stuff dosnt work`
`02:36.01`	`asteriskmonkey`	`how do i get it going again?`
`02:36.23`	`Darwin35`	`move to 1.2.1`
`02:36.50`	`asteriskmonkey`	`me?`
`02:37.18`	`asteriskmonkey`	`why does cdr stuff not work in 1.2 but in 1.2.1?`
`02:37.32`	`Qwell`	`asteriskmonkey: branch or 1.2.0?`
`02:38.01`	`asteriskmonkey`	`qwell: stable snapshot`
`02:38.02`	`asteriskmonkey`	`1.2`
`02:38.14`	`Qwell`	`branch`
`02:38.35`	`asteriskmonkey`	`qwell.. so i should go to bleedign edge svn?`
`02:38.41`	`Qwell`	`nah`
`02:38.45`	`asteriskmonkey`	`cdr should work in 1.2 right?`
`02:38.52`	`kuku5`	`it works`
`02:38.53`	`kuku5`	`for me`
`02:38.54`	`Qwell`	`if its a fixed bug, it'd be fixed in 1.2 also`
`02:38.57`	`asteriskmonkey`	`i had it in my 1.0.9 but i may have killed it`
`02:39.07`	`Qwell`	`config issue probably`
`02:39.11`	`kuku5`	`you have to load the module - but i guess you know that`
`02:39.12`	`kuku5`	`yeh`
`02:39.21`	`kuku5`	`startup *, it will tell you whatsup`
`02:39.23`	`asteriskmonkey`	`sec`
`02:39.33`	`kuku5`	`I dont think you could reload it`
`02:40.21`	`shmaltz`	`what could be the reason that slackware doesn't want to load sk98lin driver? I get no adapter found, and cat /proc/pci shows it (but the name is wrong), while lspci shows it with the right name?`
`02:40.28`	`shmaltz`	`oops sorry wrong window`
`02:41.01`	`asteriskmonkey`	`whats the cdr module called?`
`02:41.07`	`Qwell`	`asteriskmonkey: which one?`
`02:41.10`	`Qwell`	`there are a few...`
`02:41.14`	`Mr-packet`	`anyone used oreka?`
`02:41.22`	`Qwell`	`Mr-packet: great vacuums`
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`02:41.56`	`Mr-packet`	`Qwell: huh..`
`02:42.07`	`Mr-packet`	`great vacuums of what?`
`02:42.09`	`Qwell`	`oreck?`
`02:42.15`	`Qwell`	`vacuum cleaners?`
`02:42.43`	`Mr-packet`	`oreka: it records VoIP sessions by passively listening to network packets`
`02:43.01`	`Qwell`	`so it's a packet vacuum`
`02:43.02`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`02:43.26`	`asteriskmonkey`	`anyway of seeing what modules are loaded`
`02:43.28`	`Mr-packet`	`Qwell, oh well yes ok`
`02:43.28`	`tengulre11`	`hi,all!! I M COMING!!!`
`02:44.10`	`Qwell`	`asteriskmonkey: show modules`
`02:44.11`	`Darwin35`	`clean it up`
`02:44.19`	`Darwin35`	`leave nothing behind`
`02:45.29`	`asteriskmonkey`	`qwell: i see a cdr_csv.so cdr_manager.so cdr_custom.so ... is there anything else i should see should there be one for sql or not?`
`02:45.46`	`Qwell`	`asteriskmonkey: cdr_odbc.so, cdr_mysql.so if you want to use mysql directly`
`02:46.06`	`Qwell`	`(you need asterisk-addons for the latter)`
`02:46.16`	`asteriskmonkey`	`qwell: cdr was using mysql before.. did it get wiped when i bombed the modules directory`
`02:46.27`	`Qwell`	`asteriskmonkey: yep, reinstall asterisk-addons`
`02:46.34`	`asteriskmonkey`	`qwell : i did a make install asterisk-addons already`
`02:46.45`	`Qwell`	`before, or after you wiped the modules? ;]`
`02:46.50`	`asteriskmonkey`	`after`
`02:46.56`	`Qwell`	`then it should be in there. load it`
`02:47.16`	`Qwell`	`or...maybe it doesn't come with asterisk-addons`
`02:47.19`	`Qwell`	`I forget`
`02:47.33`	`asteriskmonkey`	`dosnt load so i guess it dosnt come with it :P`
`02:47.53`	`Qwell`	`ahh`
`02:47.54`	`Qwell`	`cdr_addon_mysql`
`02:48.00`	`Qwell`	`.so`
`02:48.23`	`asteriskmonkey`	`nope not exist.. grrr where do i find that bugger`
`02:48.31`	`Qwell`	`should be in asterisk-addons`
`02:48.42`	`Qwell`	`cdr_addon_mysql.so MySQL CDR Backend`
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`02:50.04`	`asteriskmonkey`	`nope cant find it :(`
`02:53.01`	`PakiPenguin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:53.48`	`asteriskmonkey`	`PakiPenguin: this is scheduled mainanance time :P i have 2 hrs left to figure it out :D`
`02:53.56`	`PakiPenguin`	`:p rofl`
`02:54.57`	`SkramX`	`whats the fiasco?`
`02:55.27`	`asteriskmonkey`	`in asterisk-1.2-addons does it compile everything or does it leave out the sub dirs liks apps`
`02:56.16`	`SkramX`	`just go and recompile to be sure.`
`02:56.30`	`asteriskmonkey`	`skramx: problem i have is my cdr no longer is there :P`
`02:56.36`	`asteriskmonkey`	`im looking where to recompile it`
`02:56.43`	`tengulre11`	`anybody use dialogic cards in asterisk??`
`02:57.09`	`SkramX`	`asteriskmonkey: re get the sources from cvs or whatever`
`02:57.28`	`asteriskmonkey`	`snv`
`02:57.32`	`asteriskmonkey`	`svn sorry`
`02:57.33`	`SkramX`	`yeah`
`02:57.47`	`Druken`	`cvs should still be there`
`02:57.50`	`Druken`	`for now....`
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`02:57.56`	`SkramX`	`Subversion, CVS, whatever`
`02:59.44`	`Darwin35`	`subversion`
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`03:02.03`	`asteriskmonkey`	`damit`
`03:02.08`	`asteriskmonkey`	`found the problem :D`
`03:02.13`	`Qwell`	`asteriskmonkey: You forgot to make install? :P`
`03:02.18`	`asteriskmonkey`	`was getting svn from wrong place`
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`03:02.19`	`Druken`	`so why is that a damnit?`
`03:02.24`	`asteriskmonkey`	`no .. svn checkout http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/branches/1.2 asterisk-1.2`
`03:02.30`	`Qwell`	`Druken: it wasn't. it was a damit`
`03:02.39`	`Qwell`	`asteriskmonkey: Whats wrong with that?`
`03:02.57`	`asteriskmonkey`	`qwell i keep on forgetting to change the http address do svn/xxxxxx/ where xxx is package`
`03:02.59`	`asteriskmonkey`	`:P`
`03:03.12`	`Qwell`	`yeah...`
`03:03.18`	`PakiPenguin`	`umm go get some banana`
`03:03.22`	`asteriskmonkey`	`but stupid think is it will actually download things if you leave it as asterisk :P`
`03:04.25`	`tengulre11`	`anybody use asterisk under debian linux?`
`03:06.31`	`asteriskmonkey`	`balls.. it still wont load :(`
`03:06.50`	`asteriskmonkey`	`cdr_mysql is there now just wont load.. damn slut`
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`03:07.13`	`asteriskmonkey`	`ah seems to work now :)`
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`03:18.50`	`Darwin35`	`slap it monkey`
`03:18.57`	`Darwin35`	`come on boy`
`03:19.06`	`Darwin35`	`slap that ass monkey`
`03:19.37`	`asteriskmonkey`	`lol`
`03:19.41`	`drray`	`congrats`
`03:20.44`	`asteriskmonkey`	`woo.. no all i have to do is work with this 1.2 and massage out my dailplans then got to 1.2.1 :D`
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`03:26.36`	`iceyp`	`hey guys, does fwd still support free toldd free dialing?`
`03:26.55`	`iceyp`	`toll*`
`03:27.30`	`mog_home`	`i think so`
`03:27.33`	`Darwin35`	`if its up and working`
`03:27.44`	`Darwin35`	`I find it down more then up`
`03:27.52`	`iceyp`	`ahhh *`
`03:29.44`	`asteriskmonkey`	`anyone played with email to fax proggies for asterisk yet?`
`03:29.49`	`Druken`	`drray: apparently your package arrived on friday`
`03:32.02`	`Darwin35`	`just the spandsp`
`03:32.07`	`Darwin35`	`and rxfax`
`03:32.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`asteriskmonkey : Whats not working at this point?`
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`03:37.07`	`fugitivo`	`asteriskmonkey: email to fax or fax to email?`
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`03:39.20`	`dav0_`	`can anyone tell me how to go about getting new things included in the asterisk_addons svn repository? is there a policy somewhere?`
`03:39.31`	`Qwell`	`dav0_: new things?`
`03:39.38`	`Qwell`	`like, add features?`
`03:40.14`	`Qwell`	`dav0_: post a bug report, add a patch`
`03:40.25`	`dav0_`	`yeah new functionallity, ive writter res_jabber.so that lets Asterisk act as a Jabber client`
`03:40.33`	`dav0_`	`i want to share it`
`03:40.40`	`Qwell`	`dav0_: You should talk to mog_home first...`
`03:40.56`	`dav0_`	`ah, ok`
`03:42.19`	`mog_home`	`dav0....`
`03:42.21`	`mog_home`	`what you got`
`03:42.27`	`mog_home`	`and whats it depend on...`
`03:42.42`	`mog_home`	`with iksemel library`
`03:42.51`	`mog_home`	`and gotten kinda far along`
`03:42.57`	`dav0_`	`res_jabber.so that lets * act as a jabber client, only depends on libiksemel`
`03:43.05`	`mog_home`	`lol`
`03:43.12`	`mog_home`	`you have probably done nearly same thing i did`
`03:43.16`	`Qwell`	`:P`
`03:43.21`	`mog_home`	`mine can be a component too though...`
`03:43.24`	`Qwell`	`s'why I said to talk to you. :D`
`03:43.26`	`dav0_`	`yeah, really?`
`03:43.44`	`mog_home`	`yeah you can check out my last public release from my team dir`
`03:43.49`	`mog_home`	`on svn`
`03:43.49`	`fugitivo`	`i'd love an icq client for asterisk`
`03:43.51`	`mog_home`	`can i see yours`
`03:43.54`	`dav0_`	`im more concentrating on dialplan functions like JabberSend(user, message) etc`
`03:44.04`	`mog_home`	`can already do that`
`03:44.07`	`mog_home`	`xmpp send`
`03:44.09`	`mog_home`	`xmpp get status`
`03:44.10`	`fugitivo`	`oh, good`
`03:44.11`	`dav0_`	`and voicemail notificaton when users come on-line`
`03:44.11`	`mog_home`	`etc`
`03:44.15`	`mog_home`	`yeah`
`03:44.18`	`Qwell`	`voicemail notification?`
`03:44.24`	`mog_home`	`i can do that`
`03:44.27`	`mog_home`	`just havent yet`
`03:44.29`	`Qwell`	`like MWI hints? heh`
`03:44.30`	`mog_home`	`has structure`
`03:44.46`	`mog_home`	`i was building structure for passing and listening to events`
`03:45.05`	`dav0_`	`mog_home: is yours available somewhere, if you've already done it, ill ditch mine...`
`03:45.26`	`mog_home`	`http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/team/mogorman/asterisk-xmpp`
`03:45.36`	`mog_home`	`mine is going through fairly large rewrite`
`03:45.44`	`mog_home`	`i should be able to commit soon`
`03:45.56`	`Qwell`	`mog_home: into trunk?`
`03:46.14`	`mog_home`	`well...`
`03:46.22`	`dav0_`	`mog_home: ok, so should i discontinue with this ?`
`03:46.27`	`mog_home`	`maybe in a little longer`
`03:46.38`	`mog_home`	`can i see it dav0 or where you just thinking about it?`
`03:46.58`	`mog_home`	`mogorman@digium.com`
`03:47.05`	`mog_home`	`you know libiksemel well?`
`03:47.07`	`dav0_`	`ive done it, its ready for the 'public beta...'`
`03:47.12`	`mog_home`	`i have hit bugs here and there`
`03:47.16`	`dav0_`	`yeah iksemel rocks!`
`03:47.21`	`mog_home`	`and getting help is not increadibly easy`
`03:47.30`	`dav0_`	`i can post it somewhere for you`
`03:48.06`	`dav0_`	`ill bundle it up and email it to you...`
`03:48.10`	`mog_home`	`cool`
`03:48.34`	`file[laptop]`	`mog_home: Matttttt`
`03:48.44`	`mog_home`	`fileee`
`03:50.01`	`Darwin35`	`we convert from tiff to pdf and email it to the person`
`03:51.17`	`*** join/#asterisk bmg505 (n=leon@dsl-146-40-176.telkomadsl.co.za)`
`03:51.41`	`_Vile`	`mog, hi! file is mean, he threatened to kick me in the shin`
`03:51.51`	`*** join/#asterisk pengyong (n=lala@222.188.143.134)`
`03:51.52`	`mog_home`	`lol`
`03:52.02`	`mog_home`	`file.......`
`03:52.09`	`file[laptop]`	`you kicked me in the shin in #openpbx first :P`
`03:52.09`	`_Vile`	`see file.....`
`03:52.18`	`_Vile`	`did not, u did first`
`03:52.21`	`_Vile`	`:)`
`03:52.24`	`mog_home`	`break it up or ill kick ya both....`
`03:53.29`	`_Vile`	`aight who has problems here tonight?`
`03:53.42`	`asteriskmonkey`	`we all do :D`
`03:53.49`	`_Vile`	`besides mental...`
`03:54.02`	`asteriskmonkey`	`well...mmm pakipenguin always has problems :D`
`03:54.08`	`_Vile`	`should cut my load in half`
`03:54.38`	`asteriskmonkey`	`:p`
`03:54.55`	`_Vile`	`well`
`03:55.02`	`asteriskmonkey`	`hows that new openpbx software comming?`
`03:55.06`	`_Vile`	`he can rtfm, next`
`03:55.13`	`Darwin35`	`its not`
`03:55.14`	`mog_home`	`wrong chan asteriskmonkey`
`03:55.24`	`Darwin35`	`its a dead project`
`03:55.27`	`_Vile`	`asteriskmonkey, you will not get love here for that comment`
`03:55.50`	`_Vile`	`join #openpbx and ask again`
`03:56.27`	`file[laptop]`	`being on both sides is hard work`
`03:56.38`	`mog_home`	`yeah`
`03:56.42`	`_Vile`	`shup file noone knows you're on both sides`
`03:56.45`	`_Vile`	`well, they do now`
`03:56.48`	`_Vile`	`:)`
`03:56.53`	`mog_home`	`umm everyone knows`
`03:56.58`	`file[laptop]`	`I said it on a mailing list post, and it got put on the daily news site`
`03:56.59`	`Darwin35`	`qell fell`
`03:57.01`	`_Vile`	`nm`
`03:57.03`	`file[laptop]`	`the better question is - who doesn't know?`
`03:57.11`	`mog_home`	`they are stripped though`
`03:57.17`	`_Vile`	`I didn't until a couple of days ago`
`03:57.19`	`file[laptop]`	`mog_home: you... stripped them?!?`
`03:57.24`	`file[laptop]`	`did they object?`
`03:57.26`	`_Vile`	`but, to be fair`
`03:57.26`	`mog_home`	`no they came to me that way`
`03:57.29`	`mog_home`	`from scrap`
`03:57.35`	`_Vile`	`I didn't know that bkw had forked until a couple of days ago`
`03:57.50`	`JamesDotCom`	`i dont understand the dislike of openpbx`
`03:57.52`	`_Vile`	`i'm lazy`
`03:57.55`	`JamesDotCom`	`does anyone have a genuine reason?`
`03:58.13`	`_Vile`	`James, yes.`
`03:58.20`	`_Vile`	`political.`
`03:58.22`	`JamesDotCom`	`vile, lets hear it :D`
`03:58.25`	`mog_home`	`well one of the reasons they forked is political`
`03:58.31`	`file[laptop]`	`open source politics gives me a headache`
`03:58.36`	`*** join/#asterisk Qwell (n=north@unaffiliated/qwell)`
`03:58.37`	`JamesDotCom`	`screw the politics`
`03:58.43`	`JamesDotCom`	`there's many other genuine reasons`
`03:58.44`	`mog_home`	`well im part of said poiltics`
`03:58.49`	`mog_home`	`i work for the evil empire ...`
`03:59.11`	`JamesDotCom`	`i dont agree with either sides politics`
`03:59.21`	`_Vile`	`I agree with you James.`
`03:59.21`	`Darwin35`	`well I thinnk its sad things could not have been worked threw`
`03:59.26`	`JamesDotCom`	`more to the point, they're irellevant`
`03:59.30`	`_Vile`	`to a point`
`03:59.40`	`JamesDotCom`	`Darwin35: what's to work through, it wants to head in a different direction code-wise`
`03:59.45`	`asteriskmonkey`	`look the same company that makes the digium tdm400 cards is whitelabelling them and selling them this company http://www.openvox.com.cn/`
`03:59.45`	`JamesDotCom`	`digium doesn't, what's the problem`
`03:59.54`	`asteriskmonkey`	`quick someone call qos dept :P`
`04:00.09`	`Qwell`	`oi, what did I miss?`
`04:00.16`	`JamesDotCom`	`anyone who's touched asterisk's code should understand that`
`04:00.18`	`*** join/#asterisk blitz_pda (n=root@CPE0006256cd738-CM00122570228c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`04:00.18`	`file[laptop]`	`Qwell: same old, same old`
`04:00.24`	`JamesDotCom`	`Qwell: asterisk vs. openpbx`
`04:00.26`	`Qwell`	`file[laptop]: flamewar?`
`04:00.29`	`Qwell`	`figures`
`04:00.30`	`JamesDotCom`	`haha`
`04:00.36`	`Darwin35`	`i thought BKW and Anthm where the hea dof openpbx`
`04:00.36`	`blitz_pda`	`heyo :)`
`04:00.36`	`JamesDotCom`	`i think it's still at discussion level`
`04:00.44`	`_Vile`	`it's really about a) one company wants to survive, and I agree with their tactics.. and b) one team wants to code, and cares less about a)'s survival.`
`04:00.50`	`Qwell`	`Darwin35: moc, afaik`
`04:01.02`	`mog_home`	`bah vile`
`04:01.08`	`Darwin35`	`ahh ok`
`04:01.09`	`blitz_pda`	`aye`
`04:01.11`	`file[laptop]`	`Asterisk has changed since OpenPBX.org forked though`
`04:01.12`	`asteriskmonkey`	`techs != business people`
`04:01.18`	`mog_home`	`at least a is wrong`
`04:01.20`	`file[laptop]`	`more people have commit, and some developers have their own branches to play in`
`04:01.25`	`_Vile`	`no, a is not wrong.`
`04:01.32`	`file[laptop]`	`so meh... we'll see`
`04:01.38`	`mog_home`	`but all was in order of happening`
`04:01.41`	`Darwin35`	`I would have liked to see asterisk move from db1 to sqlite`
`04:02.00`	`asteriskmonkey`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:02.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Darwin35 : I've said that for a long time now.`
`04:02.04`	`JamesDotCom`	`i just dont understand the contempt towards either product`
`04:02.08`	`JamesDotCom`	`from either side`
`04:02.09`	`mog_home`	`where is db1 holding you back?`
`04:02.21`	`_Vile`	`they are both the same product.`
`04:02.28`	`_Vile`	`different names..`
`04:02.29`	`Darwin35`	`DB1 is old and outdated`
`04:02.35`	`file[laptop]`	`the database stuff is abstract enough that you can rip it out`
`04:02.36`	`puzzled`	`file[laptop]: definitely not a bad thing. pace seems to have picked up quite a bit`
`04:02.36`	`mog_home`	`but how.`
`04:02.41`	`file[laptop]`	`and stick in whatever you want`
`04:03.02`	`file[laptop]`	`someone could make it truly pluggable if they wanted, with database handlers that registered`
`04:03.12`	`JamesDotCom`	`file[laptop]: unlike many other parts of asterisk :P`
`04:03.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`yawn I'm toast. Later all.`
`04:03.35`	`file[laptop]`	`have db1 as standard, with sqlite in asterisk-addons... 'tis possible, but I don't know the licensing of it all`
`04:03.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`licensing is what holds * back.....`
`04:04.18`	`JamesDotCom`	`yeah, big factor`
`04:04.23`	`mog_home`	`can someone give me a reason as to why sqlite is better in the way it is used in asterisk as apposed to db1 other than that sqlite is new`
`04:04.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`anyways...`
`04:04.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`exit`
`04:04.37`	`_Vile`	`mog, no, use SQLite`
`04:04.54`	`mog_home`	`wow i never thought of it that way....`
`04:04.55`	`_Vile`	`and stop asking for problems :)`
`04:05.19`	`_Vile`	`it works.`
`04:05.32`	`mog_home`	`well you guys want to change it`
`04:05.42`	`mog_home`	`if you dont give a reason other than its new`
`04:05.42`	`_Vile`	`who is 'you'?`
`04:05.50`	`mog_home`	`it isnt much of an argument`
`04:05.54`	`_Vile`	`i'm a bystander here`
`04:05.57`	`file[laptop]`	`don't point at me, I just said it was possible and gave info :P`
`04:06.10`	`mog_home`	`well apperantly sql people have run off`
`04:06.21`	`_Vile`	`I know sql in and out, what do you want to know?`
`04:06.49`	`mog_home`	`can someone give me a reason as to why sqlite is better in the way it is used in asterisk as apposed to db1 other than that sqlite is new`
`04:07.01`	`tzanger`	`it's not any better`
`04:07.12`	`_Vile`	`it's more supported`
`04:07.19`	`tzanger`	`maybe faster, but the whole need to write SQL queries to do anything is idiotic and assinine`
`04:07.26`	`mog_home`	`umm db1 is supported everywhere?`
`04:07.26`	`tzanger`	`ESPECIALLY since SQLite has no networking`
`04:07.34`	`tzanger`	`_Vile: you have no idea what you're talking about`
`04:07.36`	`_Vile`	`ask someone in here about db1`
`04:07.40`	`_Vile`	`then ask them about mysql`
`04:07.49`	`file[laptop]`	`Qwell: yes, flamewar`
`04:07.49`	`JamesDotCom`	`and i wouldnt argue that it's the one true way`
`04:08.04`	`tzanger`	`you've probably got the SQL for Dummies handbook and now see every problem as needing an SQL database as part of its solution`
`04:08.05`	`JamesDotCom`	`but the fact that db1 has progressed to db4.1 should give you some idea`
`04:08.10`	`mog_home`	`i dont get why anyone would want sqlite over db1, unless its infinetly faster`
`04:08.27`	`tzanger`	`mog_home: stick to your guns on this one, you're absolutely right.`
`04:08.27`	`_Vile`	`tzang, you're a big fuck, but ask me something.`
`04:08.37`	`marcus2`	`mog; if all you know is sql...`
`04:08.44`	`tzanger`	`_Vile: yeah... I don't know ANYTHING about relational databases or Asterisk at all`
`04:08.53`	`marcus2`	`or, as the saying goes`
`04:08.55`	`*** join/#asterisk stkn_ (i=nobody@gentoo/developer/pdpc.active.stkn)`
`04:08.59`	`_Vile`	`tzang, and I know you do.`
`04:09.00`	`marcus2`	`if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail :)`
`04:09.07`	`asteriskmonkey`	`mog_home: now now.. he could have some monsters 100 processor machine running 50,000 simultanios calls that need recording to a db really fast :)`
`04:09.11`	`_Vile`	`but you know me.`
`04:09.20`	`mog_home`	`come on`
`04:09.25`	`tzanger`	`not like I've been using relational databases for the past decade and Asterisk for the last 2.5 years... but yeah, I know nothing, don't worry.`
`04:09.25`	`mog_home`	`thats retarded`
`04:09.33`	`mog_home`	`when is db gonna hold you back on calls`
`04:09.43`	`_Vile`	`tzang, stop whining like a little girl.`
`04:09.45`	`dav0_`	`mog_home: its in your email...`
`04:09.49`	`mog_home`	`im not gonna stop anyone from putting sqlite into asterisk`
`04:09.52`	`tzanger`	`just because Mysql's popular doesn't mean it's well supported`
`04:09.57`	`mog_home`	`but i dont see why its needed`
`04:09.57`	`_Vile`	`no`
`04:10.00`	`mog_home`	`thanks dav0`
`04:10.03`	`_Vile`	`there's where you are wrong`
`04:10.07`	`asteriskmonkey`	`mysql is support all over the place :P`
`04:10.11`	`tzanger`	`there isn't anything a relational database can give you in this scenario that DB1's not already doing, and likely with less overhead`
`04:10.14`	`_Vile`	`because mysql, sqlite is popular`
`04:10.15`	`Darwin35`	`my final word is postgres`
`04:10.18`	`mog_home`	`but db1 is on more boxes`
`04:10.20`	`_Vile`	`is why it is well supported.`
`04:10.20`	`Darwin35`	`its your friend`
`04:10.22`	`asteriskmonkey`	`especially if people start doing php agi scripts :)`
`04:10.23`	`tzanger`	`hahahahahahhahahaha`
`04:10.33`	`_Vile`	`I hate mysql, personally.`
`04:10.37`	`tzanger`	`because of mysql, sqlite's popular?`
`04:10.37`	`_Vile`	`I prefer postgres`
`04:10.39`	`Darwin35`	`but you cant do realtime with db1`
`04:10.44`	`mog_home`	`okay bump this again guys`
`04:10.51`	`tzanger`	`no, how about because sqlite's small, fast, multiplatform and extremely light it's popular?`
`04:10.53`	`mog_home`	`if someone wants to give me real reason`
`04:10.59`	`mog_home`	`speak up or forever hold your peace`
`04:11.12`	`tzanger`	`there IS no real reason, that's why you're hearing crickets on this one, mog_home`
`04:11.24`	`_Vile`	`there is preference`
`04:11.25`	`Darwin35`	`I need a real db for realtime. other then that asterisk has been great`
`04:11.30`	`JamesDotCom`	`mog_home: a future :P`
`04:11.34`	`mog_home`	`im all for prefrence`
`04:11.37`	`tzanger`	`I too prefer postgres over mysql, but I'd not want either in my core PBX`
`04:11.41`	`mog_home`	`its fine to have it pluggable`
`04:11.45`	`_Vile`	`agreed`
`04:11.50`	`mog_home`	`but im not gonna work on it`
`04:11.56`	`mog_home`	`and it seems sily to ask anyone too`
`04:11.58`	`_Vile`	`but fuck you, again, tzang, for yelling at me ;)`
`04:12.08`	`tzanger`	`I never yelled at anyone`
`04:12.32`	`tzanger`	`ha`
`04:12.44`	`_Vile`	`;)`
`04:12.46`	`_Vile`	`brb`
`04:12.47`	`tzanger`	`I just don't use realtime... that's my solution`
`04:12.55`	`tzanger`	`I haven't found a reason to tie my PBX to a DB so closely`
`04:12.57`	`marcus2`	`yeah, no need for realtime`
`04:13.01`	`marcus2`	`thats what 'reload' is for`
`04:13.12`	`Darwin35`	`grr`
`04:13.13`	`tzanger`	`marcus2: nonsense...`
`04:13.20`	`Darwin35`	`still this issue kill sm`
`04:13.23`	`Darwin35`	`eme`
`04:13.25`	`asteriskmonkey`	`if you have alot of people constantly changing there extesnions via a web app reload can get to frequent`
`04:13.30`	`mog_home`	`thats slightly different`
`04:13.36`	`asteriskmonkey`	`but i dougnt that will be a case unless you have 1000's of users`
`04:13.41`	`marcus2`	`tzanger; increase your sarcasm detector sensitivity`
`04:13.59`	`file[laptop]`	`you don't need stuff done in realtime like that asteriskmonkey, only do a reload if something changes every so often`
`04:14.26`	`tzanger`	`sip reload, iax2 reload works fine, and I limit my updates of those to once every 15 minutes. If someone's going to not use my service because they can't get an account 'hot' faster than 15 minutes, fuck 'em. They'll be the type of customer who will bitch about every little think they can and then ultimately leave over a 0.0001/min cheaper route elsewhere.`
`04:14.41`	`mog_home`	`dav0 you getting my messages, your stuff is pretty nifty`
`04:14.53`	`file[laptop]`	`tzanger: dejavu`
`04:15.10`	`tzanger`	`file[laptop]: ?`
`04:15.11`	`mog_home`	`well realtime makes sense at some level`
`04:15.18`	`mog_home`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:15.18`	`file[laptop]`	`tzanger: I had someone do that`
`04:15.24`	`mog_home`	`but its good that we are heading there`
`04:15.34`	`tzanger`	`well the realtime that's coming down the pipe now really does fix a LOT of my gripes about realtime... I have to admit :-)`
`04:16.00`	`tzanger`	`proper caching was the big one though`
`04:16.13`	`mog_home`	`i mean if we have a 10,000+ person environment doing 15 min updates etc isnt awlays great`
`04:16.23`	`blitzrage`	`evening`
`04:16.29`	`tzanger`	`no, textual configuration files getting parsed out the ass like that slow everything down`
`04:16.47`	`file[laptop]`	`blitzrage: hi`
`04:17.11`	`file[laptop]`	`tzanger: look in the PBX core.`
`04:17.17`	`_Vile`	`back`
`04:17.25`	`file[laptop]`	`tzanger: that's all I can say, look in there... you'll get ideas...`
`04:17.25`	`tzanger`	`file[laptop]: ?`
`04:17.34`	`tzanger`	`ideas for what?`
`04:17.35`	`file[laptop]`	`to overcome your issue that you said about the parsing`
`04:17.39`	`tzanger`	`ahh`
`04:17.51`	`asteriskmonkey`	`night all`
`04:17.57`	`tzanger`	`yeah the solution is to go to a preparsed memory image of sip.conf/iax.conf and then simply mmap(0 it`
`04:18.01`	`tzanger`	`er mmap()`
`04:18.01`	`_Vile`	`night`
`04:18.26`	`file[laptop]`	`blitzrage: are you finally back home?`
`04:18.51`	`tzanger`	`yeah he's back in the great white north`
`04:18.56`	`*** join/#asterisk SplasPood (n=jwb@brooklyn.paravolve.net)`
`04:19.42`	`tzanger`	`not sure how happy he is to be home though :-p`
`04:21.07`	`tzanger`	`god damn I love bluetooth`
`04:21.19`	`_Vile`	`did someone submit an AGI 'file not found' bug on unexecutable perl scripts last night?`
`04:21.35`	`tzanger`	`RDP to the kitchen computer from the laptop, download the new agendus and get it ready for hotsync, hotsync via bluetooth to the kitchen computer`
`04:24.22`	`blitzrage`	`file[laptop]: aye -- I am`
`04:24.39`	`_Vile`	`sorry I yelled at you tzang...`
`04:24.47`	`blitzrage`	`file[laptop]: just found a way to make my zaurus useful again -- ko/pi looks slick -- lets me sync to a remote iCal system`
`04:25.02`	`file[laptop]`	`yay`
`04:25.15`	`blitzrage`	`I need teh zleep soon`
`04:25.21`	`blitzrage`	`gotta get up early`
`04:25.38`	`file[laptop]`	`nope! not allowed`
`04:25.47`	`_Vile`	`banned...`
`04:26.30`	`tzanger`	`_Vile: no worries, db wars are always a little hot :-)`
`04:26.40`	`tzanger`	`blitzrage: oh?`
`04:26.42`	`tzanger`	`link?`
`04:26.54`	`TheCops`	`someone tried an alphanumeric pager with asterisk ?`
`04:27.40`	`file[laptop]`	`I should sleep too`
`04:27.41`	`file[laptop]`	`yeah...`
`04:27.42`	`file[laptop]`	`nini`
`04:27.44`	`_Vile`	`TheCops, can do it w/ qpage...`
`04:27.49`	`_Vile`	`later file`
`04:28.18`	`TheCops`	`What's qpage ? a command ?`
`04:28.21`	`_Vile`	`directly, not possible tmk`
`04:28.24`	`_Vile`	`no, google it.`
`04:28.33`	`tzanger`	`I want a nice SMS gateway to Telus`
`04:28.41`	`tzanger`	`something that'll let me set MWI`
`04:28.52`	`_Vile`	`I got a MetaSwitch a few days ago`
`04:28.59`	`_Vile`	`playing w/ MWI currently`
`04:29.11`	`_Vile`	`from *`
`04:29.23`	`tzanger`	`what's a metaswitch`
`04:29.30`	`_Vile`	`<grin>`
`04:30.12`	`_Vile`	`it's basically asterisk on steroids, ss7 capable, with a rocking interface`
`04:30.23`	`tzanger`	`ahh`
`04:30.24`	`_Vile`	`softswitch`
`04:30.28`	`SkramX`	`so has anyone gotten SMS to work?`
`04:30.35`	`_Vile`	`hi mark`
`04:30.38`	`SkramX`	`can i send an sms to asterisk and it interperts it?`
`04:30.43`	`tzanger`	`I can send SMS messages through Telus' SMS-to-email gateawy but that's not what I want`
`04:30.46`	`SkramX`	`_Vile: I am not mark spencer.`
`04:31.04`	`_Vile`	`i'm in err.`
`04:31.14`	`SkramX`	`err?`
`04:31.28`	`_Vile`	`i made a mistake.`
`04:31.51`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: www.pi-sync.org`
`04:32.09`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: errr... http://www.pi-sync.net`
`04:32.14`	`blitzrage`	`its wicked cool`
`04:32.56`	`_Vile`	`so noone posted a bug to mantis about AGI execution last night?`
`04:32.58`	`mog_home`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:33.05`	`_Vile`	`I didn't catch the version, but definitely a bug.`
`04:33.12`	`_Vile`	`shup mog :)`
`04:33.49`	`tzanger`	`hahahaha`
`04:34.48`	`*** join/#asterisk marc34323 (n=marc3222@206-248-157-112.dsl.teksavvy.com)`
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`04:34.58`	`marc34323`	`i have a ohci usb, how do i use a timer?`
`04:35.03`	`tzanger`	`blitzrage: interesting`
`04:35.09`	`mog_home`	`lol`
`04:35.18`	`tzanger`	`I wouldn't mind getting my agendus for windows and kmail stuff talking nicely`
`04:35.24`	`mog_home`	`im just playing _Vile`
`04:35.29`	`_Vile`	`'wake up white people' -- I will have this SIP dialable in month...`
`04:35.42`	`mog_home`	`?`
`04:35.42`	`_Vile`	`shup mog :)`
`04:35.52`	`_Vile`	`it's this guy in alabama`
`04:35.58`	`_Vile`	`crazy fuck`
`04:36.11`	`_Vile`	`says some funny stuff`
`04:36.37`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: yah -- iCal rocks. All remote, and can have multiple devices talking to it`
`04:36.42`	`_Vile`	`if I had a # on me, I'd throw it out here, but all I know is 'wake up white people'`
`04:36.46`	`blitzrage`	`or via a web interface`
`04:37.08`	`blitzrage`	`all the same data -- which is huge for me since I travel a lot and don't always have access to one of my own devices`
`04:37.58`	`tzanger`	`blitzrage: yep`
`04:38.21`	`tzanger`	`kontact understands ical and I even get meeting requests and send replies to the outlook-using in the office`
`04:38.36`	`tzanger`	`but the todos and stuff don't seem syncd`
`04:38.41`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger very cool -- now if only Outlook would understand iCal`
`04:38.48`	`tzanger`	`:-)`
`04:38.57`	`tzanger`	`well we sync all the outlook boxes to exchange4linux`
`04:39.01`	`tzanger`	`so in essence they do`
`04:39.10`	`_Vile`	`outlook can read ical`
`04:39.10`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: ahhh -- then thats cool :)`
`04:39.16`	`blitzrage`	`_Vile: since when?`
`04:39.18`	`_Vile`	`matter of use`
`04:39.21`	`tzanger`	`yeah our main db for that is over 34G`
`04:39.27`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: eessh :)`
`04:39.48`	`tzanger`	`there is something very... odd.. about being able to run arbitrary SQL queries over your email, contacts, todos, journals and calendar events :-)`
`04:39.53`	`tzanger`	`very cool though`
`04:40.10`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: if I can find a headset that'll put both the mic and earpeice onto the same 3.5mm socket, then I can plug that in and have a wireless VoIP phone on the PDA too`
`04:40.21`	`tzanger`	`you can't really`
`04:40.28`	`tzanger`	`the one channel serves double-duty`
`04:40.46`	`tzanger`	`i.e. it's either stereo headphones OR mono+mic`
`04:40.55`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: then I'm not sure the purpose of the Ziax phone... it must be possible somehow...`
`04:41.04`	`tzanger`	`well yes, mono phone + mic`
`04:41.04`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: mono+mic is fine`
`04:41.07`	`tzanger`	`yep`
`04:41.14`	`tzanger`	`I have an SL5500 hiding around here somewhere`
`04:41.15`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: know where I can find such a device?`
`04:41.24`	`tzanger`	`well two... one totally busted and one working :-)`
`04:41.29`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: heh :)`
`04:41.38`	`tzanger`	`blitzrage: uh, any headset... you may need a 2.5mm->3.5mm converter`
`04:41.40`	`blitzrage`	`I just haven't been able to find any device for it...`
`04:41.49`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: ahhh... guess I need that convertor...`
`04:41.57`	`tzanger`	`I need a 3.5mm->2.5mm, my treo's got the 2.5mm jack and I need to nbe able to hook up headphones`
`04:42.05`	`blitzrage`	`heh :)`
`04:42.15`	`tzanger`	`I go to Chibougamau tomorrow`
`04:42.46`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: I go to Glencoe`
`04:42.49`	`TheCops`	`tzanger, exchange4linux seem to be very nice, all calendar sharing and stuff like that is possible?`
`04:43.33`	`_Vile`	`my fun problem next year is to move public folders off of exchange`
`04:44.07`	`tzanger`	`TheCops: the outlook clients dont' know they're not talking to an exchange server`
`04:44.25`	`tzanger`	`it does public folders too with all the delegation fun`
`04:44.34`	`TheCops`	`nice`
`04:44.36`	`TheCops`	`very nice`
`04:44.37`	`_Vile`	`tzang, what about transferring?`
`04:44.39`	`rob0`	`Hey I bought one of those converters from Radio Shark, only US$3`
`04:44.55`	`tzanger`	`you set up one client with both exchange server and e4l connectors and then literally drag/drop`
`04:44.57`	`_Vile`	`you know what, that could work, admin privs...`
`04:44.58`	`TheCops`	`I'll bother a friend of mine who love microsoft and exchange stuff`
`04:45.01`	`tzanger`	`at least that's how we did it`
`04:45.02`	`_Vile`	`two connections`
`04:45.04`	`_Vile`	`copy paste`
`04:45.10`	`_Vile`	`yep`
`04:45.11`	`_Vile`	`rockin'`
`04:45.25`	`_Vile`	`i will use that, ty.`
`04:45.42`	`tzanger`	`worth a shot anyway`
`04:45.47`	`tzanger`	`it's all written in python too`
`04:45.55`	`tzanger`	`which while I don't know python yet is a good thing :-)`
`04:46.07`	`TheCops`	`easy to install ?`
`04:46.12`	`tzanger`	`not bad no`
`04:46.16`	`_Vile`	`im playing w/ ruby right now`
`04:46.19`	`tzanger`	`not trivial but straightforward`
`04:46.48`	`tzanger`	`you're just a php bigot :-)`
`04:46.56`	`blitzrage`	`its true`
`04:47.15`	`_Vile`	`I don't know python -- php is written on my fingertips..`
`04:47.29`	`_Vile`	`I try very hard to forget php functions, doesn't work.`
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`04:48.46`	`_Vile`	`I have some e-mails to answer, bbiam`
`04:49.01`	`shmaltz`	`list still down I see`
`04:49.13`	`blitzrage`	`people read that still? :)`
`04:50.33`	`Telamon`	`Does anyone here have MWI working with a Grandstream phone? IE, the GXP-2000 or any of the handytone series?`
`04:52.51`	`*** join/#asterisk BhaalWK (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal)`
`04:53.11`	`shmaltz`	`I like this (but it wont run asterisk):`
`04:53.12`	`shmaltz`	`http://bgmicro.com/prodinfo.asp?prodid=COM1188&page=1&cri=&stype=1`
`04:54.39`	`Telamon`	`I really hope that's a misprint. 1.2GB in this day and age would be bad enough.`
`04:56.04`	`shmaltz`	`Telamon, I'm not so sure, since 1.2 cant do you much either`
`04:56.21`	`*** join/#asterisk Damin (n=damin@nucleus.nacs.net)`
`04:57.19`	`shmaltz`	`Telamon, yeah, you right:`
`04:57.20`	`shmaltz`	`http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Seagate+ST31276A&btnG=Google+Search`
`04:57.25`	`shmaltz`	`it's 1.2 GB`
`04:57.45`	`Telamon`	`http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/specs/ata/st31276a.html`
`04:58.01`	`shmaltz`	`actualy that would be a good drive to mount /var/spool/asterisk on`
`04:58.05`	`Telamon`	`4500RPM, woo, a real speed demon :)`
`04:59.00`	`Telamon`	`Bah, I'd rather buy a 120 gig and make a 1.2 gig partition, then have 118.8 gigs left for MP3's and pr0n. :)`
`04:59.11`	`shmaltz`	`are we that stupid already?`
`04:59.13`	`shmaltz`	`http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051219/ap_on_hi_te/future_e_mails;_ylt=Au2aMlvoC56sS0VR7PDcmiQjtBAF;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--`
`04:59.22`	`shmaltz`	`Telamon, lol`
`05:01.06`	`shmaltz`	`if you have a dell laptop:`
`05:01.07`	`shmaltz`	`http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20051216/tc_nf/40263;_ylt=AiiNCeuk.1vq6u.dowZ6v5.SxLEF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--`
`05:01.57`	`Darwin35`	`still no go`
`05:03.36`	`*** join/#asterisk livinded (n=livinded@cpe-66-75-91-108.socal.res.rr.com)`
`05:05.06`	`Darwin35`	`qwell get home now your grounded`
`05:05.34`	`livinded`	`i'm trying ot install zaptel and looking for the kernel source but the debian repository doesn't have the source for 2.6.12, should i get the vanilla sources from somewhere else or will the 2.6.8 sources work?`
`05:05.49`	`_Vile`	`ahh, finally, a problem`
`05:06.39`	`livinded`	`yes a problem, but can you answer it?`
`05:07.14`	`_Vile`	`yes, use redhat.`
`05:07.26`	`livinded`	`lol`
`05:07.34`	`Qwell`	`but...but...mom...`
`05:07.37`	`_Vile`	`less trouble.`
`05:07.44`	`livinded`	`why less trouble?`
`05:07.45`	`Telamon`	`livinded: Get the vanilla source. Although I'd try with 2.6.14 first, might as well use the latest stable.`
`05:08.13`	`livinded`	`so compile the vanilla 2.6.14 and then install zaptel?`
`05:08.15`	`Telamon`	`Qwell: Don't be mean. If you are going to recommend a distro, at least say Gentoo.`
`05:08.25`	`livinded`	`i've used gentoo in the past`
`05:08.31`	`livinded`	`it always seemed to break packages`
`05:08.35`	`Qwell`	`Telamon: eh?`
`05:08.45`	`Telamon`	`Telamon waits for the distro war to begin.... :)`
`05:09.03`	`dav0_`	`livended: the stock 2.6.13 or 14 sources will work fine on debian. just unpack and make-kpg as normal`
`05:09.16`	`Telamon`	`livinded: You have to run revdep-rebuild after you upgrade certain packages like glibc or database servers.`
`05:09.23`	`Corydon76-home`	`Now, now, everybody know that if you're really going to run a server right, you have to use TurboLinux`
`05:09.44`	`Qwell`	`Corydon76-home: please. It's all about Caldera`
`05:10.03`	`rob0`	`Yggdrasil!!!`
`05:10.15`	`rob0`	`Minix!!!!`
`05:10.29`	`livinded`	`lol i think i should stick with asterisk@home until i learn more about linux`
`05:10.38`	`_Vile`	`jeah, a minix movement is in order...`
`05:10.38`	`Telamon`	`If someone starts talking about FreeBSD I'm leaving....`
`05:10.59`	`rob0`	`good night`
`05:11.00`	`Telamon`	`You are aptly named....`
`05:11.00`	`Corydon76-home`	`Hey, now, what was wrong with System 3?`
`05:11.06`	`_Vile`	`;)`
`05:11.33`	`_Vile`	`damn, he went home`
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`05:11.52`	`_Vile`	`no fun`
`05:12.19`	`_Vile`	`livinded, agreed.`
`05:12.51`	`_Vile`	`but, the best way to learn something is to force urself to use it...`
`05:12.55`	`_Vile`	`shrug`
`05:12.55`	`_Vile`	`brb'`
`05:12.59`	`livinded`	`ya`
`05:13.04`	`livinded`	`but i want something working`
`05:13.39`	`_Vile`	`ok, gimme your scenario of what's wrong...?`
`05:14.05`	`livinded`	`i debian doesn't have the sources for their kernel`
`05:14.17`	`_Vile`	`so, wipe out debian.`
`05:14.33`	`_Vile`	`go with redhat, it's what I use...`
`05:14.40`	`livinded`	`so i ened ot go get the new vanilla, compile that, build an initrd image, rebuild the dependencies, and rebuild zaptel`
`05:15.01`	`livinded`	`then learn how to configure asterisk without amp`
`05:15.26`	`_Vile`	`you're creating a lot of work for yourself, it seems.`
`05:15.31`	`livinded`	`ya`
`05:15.35`	`_Vile`	`stop that.`
`05:15.52`	`_Vile`	`keep it simple.`
`05:15.56`	`_Vile`	`to begin with.`
`05:16.09`	`livinded`	`how should i do that?`
`05:16.23`	`_Vile`	`install redhat, install asterisk.`
`05:16.28`	`_Vile`	`it'll work out of the box.`
`05:16.39`	`_Vile`	`for the most part`
`05:16.44`	`livinded`	`fedora core?`
`05:16.48`	`livinded`	`or 9`
`05:16.53`	`_Vile`	`sec`
`05:16.59`	`livinded`	`oe cent`
`05:17.02`	`livinded`	`or*`
`05:17.45`	`_Vile`	`dunno, I have linux-2.6 src's`
`05:18.03`	`_Vile`	`I should probably upgrade, this is beyond my knowledge`
`05:18.26`	`livinded`	`i think i'll just play with @home and learn how to configur eon there where i have amp to help me`
`05:18.41`	`_Vile`	`configuration help isn't a problem in here`
`05:19.12`	`_Vile`	`if you have a config problem, we can help, you just need to post it to pastebin.ca`
`05:19.21`	`_Vile`	`and then msg us a url`
`05:19.23`	`livinded`	`ok`
`05:20.12`	`livinded`	`so should use fedora?`
`05:20.20`	`livinded`	`i should*`
`05:20.38`	`_Vile`	`i can't answer that, someone else can -- I can answer what I use, which works.`
`05:20.56`	`livinded`	`you use redhat 9?`
`05:21.24`	`Corydon76-home`	`I would recommend Mandrake, but that's just my personal preference`
`05:21.48`	`_Vile`	`liv, yes.`
`05:22.01`	`livinded`	`do they still offer upgrades for that?`
`05:22.05`	`_Vile`	`it's really a matter of preference`
`05:22.19`	`_Vile`	`don't know, not my job...`
`05:22.30`	`_Vile`	`but redhat works`
`05:22.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`You can get pretty much any Linux distribution to work...`
`05:23.16`	`_Vile`	`. /\|\`
`05:23.22`	`livinded`	`i just don't want to be running 2 year old unupdated software`
`05:24.02`	`Corydon76-home`	`Really, what it probably will come down to is, do you have any Linux expertise, or do you have someone around your office who can offer Linux expertise?`
`05:24.17`	`livinded`	`i'm running this at home`
`05:24.18`	`Corydon76-home`	`Go with whatever distribution your personal contact knows.`
`05:24.30`	`livinded`	`just trying to get into voip`
`05:24.43`	`_Vile`	`start with the easiest distribution to work with, I advise red hat`
`05:24.50`	`_Vile`	`cory advises mandrake`
`05:24.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`Because when you're having trouble, you will want to have someone knowledgable around to help you out`
`05:25.10`	`livinded`	`mandrake or mandrivia?`
`05:25.12`	`*** join/#asterisk SERGEUS\|W (n=SERGEUS@ippe-245.ippe.ru)`
`05:25.23`	`Corydon76-home`	`Even Slackware is fine, if you have someone around who knows Slackware`
`05:25.32`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yah, it's Mandriva`
`05:25.40`	`_Vile`	`cory -> it's us who knows x :)`
`05:25.58`	`livinded`	`for linux help i also have the guys at my lug`
`05:26.07`	`_Vile`	`ahh, good.`
`05:26.13`	`livinded`	`thats why i was using debian`
`05:26.25`	`Corydon76-home`	`Keep in mind that asking which distro can start a holy war`
`05:26.32`	`livinded`	`ya`
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`05:27.01`	`livinded`	`does mandrivia do a minimal install with just the base os?`
`05:27.13`	`Corydon76-home`	`Figure out which person is the right balance of knowledgable, friendly, and patient... and use whatever they're using...`
`05:27.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`Mandriva installs whatever you tell it to. The install is fully graphical`
`05:27.38`	`livinded`	`ok`
`05:27.59`	`livinded`	`becuase i run this computer with no monitor and don't plan on running x on it`
`05:28.04`	`Corydon76-home`	`Just keep in mind that there's a difference between running a server and running a desktop`
`05:28.20`	`_Vile`	`I'm pretty vile, you wouldn't like me... :)`
`05:28.25`	`Corydon76-home`	`Good... no X means more interrupts available for Zaptel hardware`
`05:28.46`	`_Vile`	`liv, what kind of hardware are you looking at?`
`05:28.52`	`livinded`	`all this does is sit in my closet and run`
`05:29.11`	`_Vile`	`only sip? or iax?`
`05:29.12`	`livinded`	`p4 1.7 ghz 512 pc2700 ddr ram`
`05:29.15`	`livinded`	`sip and iax`
`05:29.19`	`_Vile`	`gotcha`
`05:29.20`	`livinded`	`no pastn lines comming into it`
`05:29.24`	`livinded`	`pstn*`
`05:29.33`	`_Vile`	`enough horsepower...`
`05:29.43`	`livinded`	`going to use fwd and voipjet`
`05:29.56`	`_Vile`	`had issues w/ fwd`
`05:29.57`	`Corydon76-home`	`Heh, voipjet`
`05:30.00`	`_Vile`	`why voipjet?`
`05:30.02`	`Corydon76-home`	`You mean etollfree`
`05:30.05`	`livinded`	`free .25 for cid spoofing`
`05:30.14`	`_Vile`	`are you trying to spoof cid?`
`05:30.14`	`livinded`	`just delete cookies and make more accounts`
`05:30.16`	`_Vile`	`only?`
`05:30.19`	`livinded`	`no`
`05:30.25`	`livinded`	`but i want to have the option`
`05:30.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`_Vile: there are good reasons to spoof cid`
`05:31.08`	`_Vile`	`I spoof cid every day`
`05:31.10`	`_Vile`	`well`
`05:31.16`	`_Vile`	`I set CID every day on LD calls`
`05:31.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`I spoof cid whenever I forward my extension to my cell phone`
`05:31.32`	`livinded`	`i probably shouldn't talk about what i use it for`
`05:31.47`	`_Vile`	`I set it to the customer of record`
`05:31.48`	`livinded`	`just wish i was able to spoof realtime ani`
`05:31.54`	`_Vile`	`I can...`
`05:32.04`	`Corydon76-home`	`but I've also accidently sent my internal extension across the PSTN as my cid`
`05:32.08`	`wasim`	`livinded: you can ... if your switch trusts you`
`05:32.12`	`_Vile`	`Cory, me too ;)`
`05:32.33`	`livinded`	`theres lots of fun you can have with that`
`05:32.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`It was rather interesting to see that the switch didn't mind that the cid was not 10 digits long...`
`05:32.43`	`livinded`	`especially if you have numbers to phone locks`
`05:33.07`	`wolfson`	`forwarding calls to your cell prefixed with extra digits is quite nice`
`05:33.10`	`_Vile`	`I've, several times, to friends, set my caller ID to their home number, and called them`
`05:33.12`	`_Vile`	`;)`
`05:33.20`	`wolfson`	`555 I know its tech support, 777 I know they hit my personal ext`
`05:33.33`	`livinded`	`the best is when companies use cid as their authentication`
`05:33.47`	`blitzrage`	`guh... can't wget with https, and scp needs my to specify a password (and I don't have access to the remote box to setup a keypair so I don't need a password). Is it possible to pass the password with a flag from the console?`
`05:33.48`	`_Vile`	`but, you gotta have an upstream that trusts you to do any of that...`
`05:33.51`	`Corydon76-home`	`wolfson: ah... if they hit my forwarding, it's because they've dialled my ext...`
`05:33.57`	`_Vile`	`livin, like cell phone companies`
`05:34.00`	`livinded`	`yes`
`05:34.01`	`_Vile`	`and voicemail?`
`05:34.02`	`livinded`	`their voicemail`
`05:34.03`	`_Vile`	`;)`
`05:34.08`	`_Vile`	`old news`
`05:34.10`	`livinded`	`yup`
`05:34.27`	`_Vile`	`bad insight on their part.`
`05:34.36`	`livinded`	`definatly`
`05:34.38`	`docelmo`	`PlainVoip.com is better and cheaper!`
`05:34.38`	`_Vile`	`still a hole`
`05:34.41`	`livinded`	`thats why i have a password`
`05:34.45`	`_Vile`	`yep`
`05:34.46`	`_Vile`	`u better.`
`05:34.48`	`_Vile`	`;)`
`05:34.59`	`wolfson`	`now if I could just find a level3 reseller that returned e-mails I'd be happy`
`05:35.44`	`Corydon76-home`	`If I could get a PRI to my house, I'd be happy...`
`05:35.54`	`livinded`	`i wish i got into phones earlier`
`05:35.54`	`_Vile`	`Cory, where do you live?`
`05:36.01`	`Corydon76-home`	`4/19 would be a lovely split`
`05:36.06`	`livinded`	`only been playing with them really for about a year`
`05:36.15`	`Corydon76-home`	`_Vile: I mean, for a price I can afford...`
`05:36.25`	`_Vile`	`Cory -- oh :)`
`05:38.45`	`kuku5`	`whats the other freshmeat.net type site?`
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`05:39.31`	`livinded`	`whats a good voip provider for DID's?`
`05:39.45`	`Husk`	`I've just upgraded from debian stable to testing and when i start asterisk i get..`
`05:39.46`	`Husk`	`[chan_zap.so]Dec 19 16:39:26 WARNING[3159]: loader.c:258 ast_load_resource: libtonezone.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory`
`05:40.04`	`livinded`	`did you rebuild zaptel?`
`05:40.10`	`Husk`	`yeah`
`05:40.40`	`livinded`	`well thats the extent of my knoledge`
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`05:41.09`	`Husk`	`i have /usr/lib/libtonezone.a`
`05:41.11`	`Husk`	`but not .so`
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`05:44.59`	`Telamon`	`What is "VM Extension" in "show sip peer <user>" used for?`
`05:45.21`	`shmaltz`	`Telamon, it reflects the mailbox setting in sip.conf`
`05:45.59`	`Telamon`	`Hmm, my mailbox is 104@mycontext but VM extension is asterisk I'm thinking that's why my MWI isn't working for SIP accounts.`
`05:48.19`	`Telamon`	`Also, why the heck aren't my SIP entries expiring in the astdb? IE, "database show sip registry" shows logins that haven't been used in months.`
`05:53.02`	`Mavantix`	`Anyone help me with a macro? In my standard extention macro, I have this: GotoIf($[${MACRO_EXTEN}=${ARG2}]?a\|1)`
`05:53.19`	`shmaltz`	`Telamon, I don't know about the expiring problem, but you could do a dabase delete in the CLI`
`05:53.42`	`Mavantix`	`so that it goes to voicemail when you dial your own extention, problem is, all extentions are going to voice mail when you try and dial from one extention to the other.`
`05:54.07`	`Mavantix`	`I thought ${MACRO_EXTEN} is the extention you're calling from.`
`05:55.00`	`Mavantix`	`ARG2 is the extention your trying to dial, in my macro.`
`05:55.01`	`Corydon76-home`	`Telamon: entries in the astdb are designed to be persistent`
`05:55.51`	`shmaltz`	`Mavantix, try doing it with the commas as in:`
`05:55.53`	`shmaltz`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-asterisk+cmd+gotoif`
`05:56.16`	`SkramX`	`someone, give me caffeine!`
`05:56.24`	`shmaltz`	`~sleep`
`05:56.25`	`jbot`	`[sleep] overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine.`
`05:57.00`	`SkramX`	`:\|`
`05:57.17`	`Telamon`	`Corydon76-home: Ah, okay, I thought the system automatically updated that particular domain.`
`05:57.17`	`shmaltz`	`~caffeine`
`05:57.19`	`jbot`	`caffeine is probably the nectar of the gods in concentrated form or the jiuce which runs through our veins`
`05:57.22`	`Corydon76-home`	`SkramX: that's a lovely dress you're wearing`
`05:57.51`	`Mavantix`	`shmaltz: Commas? My whole line is: exten => s,3,GotoIf($[${MACRO_EXTEN}=${ARG2}]?a\|1)`
`05:58.00`	`Corydon76-home`	`Telamon: it does, if it receives a new notification`
`05:58.20`	`Mavantix`	`shmaltz: didn't seem nessasary to paste the obvious.`
`05:58.21`	`Corydon76-home`	`Telamon: but there's no expiry on astdb entries`
`05:58.37`	`shmaltz`	`Mavantix, so change it to:`
`05:58.38`	`Telamon`	`Just not on a logout or timeout. I get it.`
`05:58.39`	`shmaltz`	`exten => s,3,GotoIf($[${MACRO_EXTEN}=${ARG2}]?a,1)`
`05:59.25`	`Corydon76-home`	`shmaltz: that change is completely superfluous`
`05:59.45`	`Corydon76-home`	`Unescaped commas are translated into pipes during the load process`
`05:59.58`	`shmaltz`	`Corydon76-home, only after testing can such a statement be made`
`06:00.17`	`Corydon76-home`	`shmaltz: No, trust me. I know that code.`
`06:00.25`	`shmaltz`	`Corydon76-home, and what are unescaped pipes translated to?`
`06:00.26`	`Mavantix`	`shmaltz: same deal, reloaded AND restarted *.`
`06:00.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`shmaltz: pipes are not translated to anything`
`06:00.47`	`shmaltz`	`so Corydon76-home is right :P`
`06:01.08`	`Mavantix`	`comma or pipe do the same thing, return true because ${MACRO_EXTEN} is equal to the extention I'm dialing, not calling from. At least that's what the NoOps are reporting.`
`06:01.14`	`shmaltz`	`Mavantix, you mind to pb your macro, and at least one exten that calls it?`
`06:01.17`	`Corydon76-home`	`Trust me, I've gone through that code a few times... ;-)`
`06:01.27`	`shmaltz`	`~pb`
`06:01.28`	`jbot`	`i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/`
`06:01.49`	`Corydon76-home`	`Actually, you should be using http://pastebin.ca`
`06:02.10`	`Corydon76-home`	`Syntax highlighting for Asterisk configs rules`
`06:03.58`	`Mavantix`	`http://pastebin.ca/34138`
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`06:06.11`	`lehel`	`hello`
`06:06.38`	`lehel`	`hm;\ why i don't have tone in my phones? tdm400p, 4fxo`
`06:07.39`	`SkramX`	`Corydon76-home: what about my dress`
`06:07.50`	`Mavantix`	`I'm thinking ${MACRO_EXTEN} is broken, then again, I'm usually to at fault.`
`06:08.07`	`Corydon76-home`	`SkramX: nothing. It's a lovely dress. ;-)`
`06:08.24`	`SkramX`	`yeah, alright..`
`06:08.25`	`Mavantix`	`could it be that ${MACRO_EXTEN} can't be used in a GotoIf?`
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`06:09.13`	`Corydon76-home`	`There's nothing particular about a GotoIf that would cause a variable to fail`
`06:09.45`	`Mavantix`	`actually, the problem isn't the GotoIf, NoOp reports the ${MACRO_EXTEN} as being the extention I dialed, not the from.`
`06:10.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`That's correct`
`06:10.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's actually the extension that called the Macro`
`06:11.05`	`Corydon76-home`	`Perhaps you were looking for ${CALLERID(num)} ?`
`06:15.52`	`Mavantix`	`Hmm, when wiki says "The calling extention ...${MACRO_EXTEN}"... I guess it means programically speaking, not dialtone speaking. ;)`
`06:17.28`	`Mavantix`	`thanks`
`06:17.33`	`Mavantix`	`that worked! :)`
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`06:19.26`	`qw3rty`	`On a cisco 7960 phone, is there a way to disable the "Configuring VLAN" option. It takes a long time for that to time for that to time out.`
`06:24.18`	`Telamon`	`Anyone know if the mailbox context divider has to be different when using extconfig = odbc? I know commas have to be pipes instead, but what about @'s?`
`06:24.35`	`Telamon`	`(MWI doesn't work for my DB accounts, but does for the ones in sip.conf)`
`06:29.34`	`mover`	`good morning`
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`06:30.15`	`qw3rty`	`sorry for repeat--- On a cisco 7960 phone, is there a way to disable the "Configuring VLAN" option. It takes a long time for that to timeout`
`06:30.16`	`Qwell`	`Telamon: 1.2.1?`
`06:30.22`	`mover`	`can i switch off the sip domain handling feature in asterisk 1.2 so that it act like an 1.0.9?`
`06:30.30`	`Telamon`	`Qwell: Yep.`
`06:30.35`	`Qwell`	`Corydon76-home: You wanna take this one? :P`
`06:31.12`	`lehel`	`hi again, someone could take a look at my zapata's, i don't have a dial tone when i pickup a phone (tdm400p 4 fxo)`
`06:31.19`	`Telamon`	`Qwell: Let me qualify that: I know commas need to be replaced by pipes in 1.2.0, haven't tested in 1.2.1 Currently using 1.2.1`
`06:31.22`	`lehel`	`http://pastebin.ca/34141`
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`06:31.36`	`Qwell`	`Telamon: no, they don't need to be. http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5972`
`06:31.41`	`Qwell`	`Telamon: apply that patch`
`06:32.52`	`[hC]`	`heh`
`06:33.06`	`Qwell`	`[hC]: nice timing`
`06:33.10`	`[hC]`	`With all the app_voicemail bugs related to that, there must be a 1.2.1 on the way i suppose :)`
`06:33.12`	`[hC]`	`er`
`06:33.13`	`[hC]`	`1.2.2`
`06:35.29`	`Telamon`	`Qwell: I don't think that's the same issue, as it works fine when not loading from the DB. I'm not that familiar with the codebase, but that doesn't look to be DB specific.`
`06:36.18`	`[hC]`	`Hmm. I wonder why this sip peer i am trying to configure keeps returning congested or server error when i try to dial it.`
`06:36.25`	`[hC]`	`The user/peer config is friggin awkward.`
`06:36.35`	`Qwell`	`Telamon: not realtime voicemail?`
`06:36.41`	`lehel`	`my zapata's:\ i have no dial tone .. http://pastebin.ca/34141`
`06:37.00`	`Qwell`	`are you specifying the context for the mailbox for the peers in the DB?`
`06:37.32`	`Telamon`	`Qwell: Yes. and "sip show peer <user> load" gives me the proper "<user>@<vm context>" string.`
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`06:37.49`	`Qwell`	`are you using realtime voicemail?`
`06:38.19`	`Qwell`	`if so, you want to apply that patch anyhow`
`06:38.22`	`Telamon`	`Not sure what you mean. I'm using the builtin voicemail, and it is set in extconfig.conf to load from the DB, so I'm guessing yes.`
`06:38.32`	`Qwell`	`then yeah, apply that, and try again`
`06:38.50`	`Telamon`	`Ok, will do.`
`06:38.51`	`Qwell`	`we can figure it out from there, if it's still happening`
`06:39.03`	`Telamon`	`Any ideas on a 1.2.2 timeframe?`
`06:39.07`	`Qwell`	`no clue`
`06:41.53`	`lehel`	`Qwell, what do you think?: chan_zap.c: Message status for 230@dev changed from -1 to 0 on 4`
`06:41.59`	`lehel`	`and i have no dial tone`
`06:42.01`	`Qwell`	`lehel: got me`
`06:42.12`	`lehel`	`4 fxo`
`06:42.14`	`lehel`	`none`
`06:42.23`	`lehel`	`the lights are not on`
`06:42.36`	`[hC]`	`sucks to have to abandon iax2 interconnects and resort to SIP to overcome IAX's bugs man :( I hope they fix that stuff soon`
`06:44.01`	`kuku5`	`How do I make it so I can leave a message for everyone?`
`06:44.07`	`kuku5`	`voicemail`
`06:44.37`	`Qwell`	`kuku5: You could setup a call to voicemail which calls every extension...`
`06:44.49`	`Qwell`	`Voicemail(101&102&103)`
`06:44.50`	`kuku5`	`but at the same time`
`06:45.03`	`kuku5`	`oh - thats it?`
`06:45.07`	`trixter`	`if that worked wouldnt that cause everyones message be played?`
`06:45.14`	`Qwell`	`trixter: no`
`06:45.23`	`kuku5`	`no u`
`06:45.25`	`trixter`	`whose message gets played then?`
`06:45.28`	`Qwell`	`the first`
`06:45.29`	`kuku5`	`nobodys`
`06:45.41`	`kuku5`	`ah`
`06:45.44`	`kuku5`	`sweet`
`06:45.50`	`kuku5`	`ok`
`06:45.54`	`kuku5`	`here is a harder one`
`06:46.04`	`kuku5`	`I want to show that I'm not at my desk`
`06:46.17`	`kuku5`	`how can the secretary know that ? ( can I press a button ? )`
`06:46.36`	`trixter`	`if she has a manager she could monitor the DnD status`
`06:46.40`	`kuku5`	`I'm writing some xml cards to mark "i'm in and I'm out" type of stuff`
`06:46.46`	`trixter`	`assuming that gets sent to the server, which isnt a guarantee`
`06:46.50`	`kuku5`	`Would the dnd ring the phone ?`
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`06:47.40`	`Qwell`	`You could use dnd and hints`
`06:47.48`	`kuku5`	`hints?`
`06:47.50`	`Qwell`	`not all devices support either though`
`06:47.59`	`Qwell`	`kuku5: monitor the other lines state, basically`
`06:48.00`	`kuku5`	`cisco 7940`
`06:48.08`	`kuku5`	`ah`
`06:48.16`	`mover`	`damn..`
`06:48.17`	`kuku5`	`but if they are not in the office- I want to know`
`06:48.34`	`Qwell`	`kuku5: Get a big round mirror in the ceiling`
`06:48.35`	`Qwell`	`:D`
`06:48.45`	`kuku5`	`so the secretary can know whether to throw in the vm right away`
`06:48.49`	`mover`	`any sip.conf /realtime guru here? i have a weird problem needed to solve bad... maybe a bug...`
`06:48.56`	`Qwell`	`mover: fire away`
`06:49.10`	`mover`	`contexts didnt work since 1.2`
`06:49.15`	`Qwell`	`what contexts?`
`06:49.24`	`mover`	`i habe sipfriends in realtime outgoing`
`06:49.27`	`trixter`	`if they are dnd and the secretary transfers to their extention then it can be detected to go auto into voicemail`
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`06:49.38`	`mover`	`regisered user are on the domain domain1.com`
`06:49.42`	`trixter`	`that is pretty much by default if they dont answer on busy/no answer`
`06:49.56`	`trixter`	`so the secretary doesnt have to know if its just for transfer reasons`
`06:50.05`	`mover`	`i habe in sip.conf a global context=sipin`
`06:50.13`	`mover`	`habe=have :-)`
`06:50.35`	`trixter`	`rather than telling the person they arent in right now ... if you want that its a little more tricky, but not that hard either depending on how they are transfered, if its blind its trickier if its not then the receptionist knows at that point`
`06:51.11`	`mover`	`so if a coll comes in it will be in outgoing because the peer is regisered in this context but channel sip has sipin`
`06:51.21`	`mover`	`Qwell u can follow me?`
`06:51.24`	`mover`	`:-)`
`06:51.26`	`kuku5`	`is *@home good enough for a big office ? or does it have problems?`
`06:51.37`	`Qwell`	`kuku5: it's awful`
`06:51.39`	`Qwell`	`hence the "at home"`
`06:51.45`	`Qwell`	`mover: only barely`
`06:51.50`	`kuku5`	`the features looked good`
`06:51.53`	`Qwell`	`mover: What happens?`
`06:52.25`	`Qwell`	`mover: It's keeping the global context? Are you sure they're authenticating?`
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`06:52.55`	`mover`	`this i have before 1.2: sipcall ---> context sipin:--->peer`
`06:52.59`	`harlequin516`	`Okay So I am trying to use fastagi to have a call dial out and connect to an application with some parameters (data) , the docs say that I can use either (context, extension, priority --- with logging) or (application, data --- without logging). Question is ... Is there a way to connect with (context, extension, priorty, and parameterData) ?`
`06:53.00`	`Flauto`	`when a call is coming in, how can i tell what time it is`
`06:53.23`	`mover`	`this i have since 1.2: sipcall ----> context outgoing: ---->peer`
`06:53.42`	`Qwell`	`mover: I don't follow`
`06:53.48`	`mover`	`in sip.conf context=sipin`
`06:54.14`	`mover`	`in realtime the filed context contain "outgoing"`
`06:54.25`	`Qwell`	`but, it's using sipin?`
`06:54.53`	`mover`	`Qwell no on an invite asterisk search the peer in outgoing`
`06:55.07`	`Qwell`	`So what's the problem?`
`06:55.17`	`mover`	`its wrong`
`06:55.28`	`Qwell`	`you told it to use outgoing, and you say it is...`
`06:55.44`	`mover`	`in sip.conf i have supplied sipin not outgoing`
`06:55.57`	`Qwell`	`Then why would you have context=outgoing?`
`06:56.02`	`mover`	`so if a call comes over sip channel thei context is right nor outgoing`
`06:56.40`	`mover`	`if a sip peer make a call it need a context this is outgoing in my realtime db`
`06:56.49`	`harlequin516`	`Now I am confused bewween parameters and variables.`
`06:57.43`	`kuku5`	`How can I NOT dial an extension if they have cfwdall setup on their phone ?`
`07:02.08`	`[hC]`	`hrmm... with caller id matching on exten's, (ie exten => 123/somestring) can you use wildcards?`
`07:02.27`	`[hC]`	`I thought you could but it doesnt seem to work.`
`07:13.48`	`shmaltz`	`f*cing echo`
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`07:17.20`	`kuku5`	`Can I get the phone's extension by ip somehow ? using php - on a webserver?`
`07:17.43`	`kuku5`	`(other than the manager )`
`07:22.56`	`wasim`	`kuku5: sure, egrep`
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`07:24.47`	`Qwell`	`hypa7ia: y0 y0`
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`07:29.11`	`hypa7ia`	`hey Qwell`
`07:29.14`	`hypa7ia`	`how goes?`
`07:30.04`	`Qwell`	`hypa7ia: alright, you?`
`07:30.13`	`hypa7ia`	`pretty awesome`
`07:30.22`	`hypa7ia`	`just got back from skiing in the alberta rockies`
`07:30.22`	`Qwell`	`oh?`
`07:30.32`	`Qwell`	`awesome indeed`
`07:30.42`	`hypa7ia`	`which would have rocked a lot more if i hadn't gotten strep throat and missed 2 of 4 days of it :s`
`07:31.53`	`Qwell`	`great timing for that`
`07:35.27`	`hypa7ia`	`yeah, that part sucked a lot`
`07:35.43`	`hypa7ia`	`at least i found out that ontario health cards are accepted in alberta :s`
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`07:36.09`	`Qwell`	`handy`
`07:36.26`	`hypa7ia`	`indeedly`
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`07:48.50`	`kuku5`	`I'm going make an ajax manager`
`07:50.55`	`Qwell`	`kuku5: everybody knows oxiclean works better`
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`08:03.49`	`_Vile`	`qwell, u foo, good evening.`
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`08:08.43`	`koperniqs`	`hi`
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`08:30.50`	`trixter`	`[O'Reilly Network MacDevCenter.com] ETel Keynotes: An Interview with Norman Lewis http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/etel/2005/12/16/an-interview-with-norman-lewis.html`
`08:35.07`	`mog_home`	`eep`
`08:35.09`	`mog_home`	`its 230`
`08:35.11`	`mog_home`	`gnite`
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`08:59.45`	`wasim`	`oh no .... damn english bowlers`
`09:00.15`	`davidw`	`wasim, we have some of those under the tiles in the kitchen, and they're impossible to get rid of`
`09:02.13`	`wasim`	`davidw: we found a solution last game, but this time they seem to have learnt a little`
`09:03.04`	`wasim`	`time for inzi to start blasting`
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`09:08.59`	`davidw`	`wasim, if you leave food out, they will invariably get into it... even spraying poison doesn't work, as they've become resistant`
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`09:10.10`	`wasim`	`davidw: we tried with local pk cuisine, it worked for a little while, but i agree, i think they've become resistant to biryani and nihari`
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`09:18.26`	`smirl`	`hi folks`
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`09:19.32`	`smirl`	`anyway to configure it so that a caller hears MOH instead of ringing when they transfer to someone?`
`09:20.33`	`smirl`	`i can do that in my telrad switch, just wondering i * support that`
`09:20.44`	`smirl`	`if* supports*`
`09:23.45`	`smirl`	`is that a No, or an I don't know ?`
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`09:31.17`	`davidw`	`ugh... anyway... our net connection sucks`
`09:33.52`	`davidw`	`seems a bit more stable`
`09:33.56`	`davidw`	`my colleague is trying to set up asterisk... one of the problems he's having is that he goes through Ringing, then wants to put someone in a Queue directly without doing a Playback - but it doesn't work without the Playback`
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`09:44.42`	`trixter`	`davidw: did he do an answer() before trying to process the call?`
`09:45.09`	`trixter`	`my guess is that its sip or something and not a zap channel and that playback is causing the answer to occur and the queue requires an answered call`
`09:45.13`	`trixter`	`but that is just a guess`
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`09:53.29`	`zoa`	`hey ho!`
`09:53.33`	`zoa`	`Whazaaa`
`09:54.21`	`wasim`	`not pk run total`
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`09:57.22`	`franck`	`Hi`
`09:57.32`	`franck`	`I'm having issues to register a SIP phone`
`09:57.49`	`franck`	`Authorization: Digest nonce="00b7707c",realm="asterisk",response="88f3f61e5b8f667ba8afcf648f941e41",uri="sip:192.168.0.1:5060",username="test"`
`09:58.06`	`franck`	`is sent but the answer is SIP/2.0 404 Not found`
`09:58.28`	`franck`	`a sip show users show me a user test with a password of mysecret`
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`09:59.40`	`franck`	`I don't know what is happening... any pointers?`
`10:00.01`	`franck`	`I'm using AMP`
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`10:02.58`	`benjk`	`if its an AMP related issue, maybe the AMP channel is a better place to ask`
`10:03.11`	`franck`	`benjk: well I'm not sure...`
`10:03.33`	`franck`	`because I edited the config files of /etc/asterisk myself`
`10:03.37`	`davidw`	`perhaps our dsl line is back:-/`
`10:03.53`	`benjk`	`that's not really such a good idea`
`10:03.55`	`davidw`	`is it possible to use asterisk to send faxes over an ISDN line (we have an Eicon card)`
`10:04.35`	`benjk`	`if you use something like AMP, then you cede control to the tool and you shouldn't compete with it for who is in charge of the config files`
`10:04.44`	`franck`	`I think I will revert back to orginal asterisk config files to test this phone, then see why AMP does not work`
`10:04.48`	`benjk`	`AMP will likely overwrite your stuff`
`10:05.14`	`franck`	`benjk: they have so extra files to put "manual" stuff`
`10:05.32`	`franck`	`benjk: my issue is that the debugging does not seem to help me`
`10:06.13`	`benjk`	`fair enough, I am just saying that AMP related issues are often better dealt with by the AMP gurus`
`10:06.15`	`franck`	`I'd like to see where * picks up the name password...`
`10:06.29`	`benjk`	`and as far as I know they have their own IRC channel`
`10:06.48`	`franck`	`yes, I know... but I would like to deal low level and then move up...`
`10:07.09`	`franck`	`ok, I revert to * original files and see from there...`
`10:17.28`	`franck`	`ok I reverted back`
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`10:22.16`	`franck`	`ok, got it running`
`10:27.34`	`benjk`	`<sarcasm>so much for AMP making things easier</sarcasm>`
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`10:28.26`	`franck`	`benjk: yes... I think things are getting simpler after you understand AMP...`
`10:28.47`	`franck`	`but I just wanted to test this sip phone with a couple of codecs...`
`10:28.57`	`franck`	`seems ok to me... so I can buy...`
`10:29.07`	`franck`	`I will now figure out AMP....`
`10:29.11`	`benjk`	`well, I don't want to spend my time on AMP`
`10:30.13`	`franck`	`benjk: When I figure it out, I will tell you...`
`10:30.37`	`benjk`	`I write my own GUI front ends ;-)`
`10:30.51`	`franck`	`btw spoke about your boat issue, and it seems strange that this is in the law... People think it is more to do with the person renting the boat`
`10:31.41`	`benjk`	`well, it was all over the sailing related media at the time`
`10:32.22`	`benjk`	`but never mind, I don't have the money for a sailing holiday right now anyway ;-)`
`10:33.01`	`franck`	`anyhow it is interesting`
`10:33.37`	`benjk`	`what kind of phones are you buying anyway?`
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`10:37.19`	`wasim`	`nice 2 wicket over :)`
`10:37.59`	`benjk`	`Nice is too wicked?`
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`10:38.14`	`davidw`	`hrm... I found this AsterFax thing, but it has a lot of ugly dependencies`
`10:38.34`	`benjk`	`AsterFax?`
`10:38.47`	`benjk`	`whazzat?`
`10:38.51`	`wasim`	`prolly a coppice knockoff`
`10:39.01`	`benjk`	`is it?`
`10:39.11`	`benjk`	`why not use the real thing?`
`10:39.36`	`benjk`	`davidw: one word: SpanDSP`
`10:40.20`	`trixter`	`another word iaxmodem`
`10:40.24`	`trixter`	`:)`
`10:40.41`	`trixter`	`lets you use hylafax without any additional hardware, uses the same libs as spandsp just provides another way to it`
`10:41.24`	`benjk`	`SpanDSP needs hylafax?`
`10:41.47`	`benjk`	`I thought it was self contained`
`10:42.34`	`trixter`	`franck because I edited the config files of /etc/asterisk myself -- you do know that amp adds an include for the file sip_additional.conf right? and that is where it stores all the users created via amp, if you edited sip.conf and removed that line it wont work`
`10:42.43`	`davidw`	`benjk, maybe he means iaxmodem?`
`10:43.18`	`trixter`	`benjk: I never said that, iaxmodem provides a modem like interface (ie a /dev entry that hylafax can use) so you can use hylafax with it and get any of the additionals that hylafax may offer`
`10:43.30`	`benjk`	`ok`
`10:43.45`	`davidw`	`I've only had one experience with hylafax in my life and that was not pleasant:-)`
`10:43.49`	`trixter`	`iaxmodem just connects via iax to the asterisk server (should run over the localhost interface)`
`10:44.00`	`benjk`	`well, the nice thing about SpanDSP would seem to be that it is self contained, apart from the fact that it works like a charm`
`10:44.22`	`trixter`	`yeah but it doesnt let people click print in their windows apps and send faxes does it?`
`10:44.27`	`trixter`	`hylafax has that going for it`
`10:44.47`	`benjk`	`windows, eek`
`10:44.51`	`benjk`	`:-)`
`10:45.12`	`trixter`	`regardless it is used by many people in corporate environments`
`10:45.38`	`trixter`	`and the ability to have a fax as a printer without paying additional money to MS to make that happen would be a nice thing`
`10:45.40`	`davidw`	`so...spandsp... how do you use it to send a fax to a given number`
`10:45.41`	`franck`	`trixter: well, I did not know if it was a amp issue or a * issue`
`10:45.50`	`trixter`	`MS doesnt let you share faxes unless you buy additional software`
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`10:46.01`	`franck`	`trixter: now, I know what to add in sip_additional.conf ;)`
`10:46.14`	`trixter`	`davidw: with some ugliness, ie a call file or manager interface to generate the call`
`10:46.24`	`benjk`	`well, there is a very simple solution to that ... dont buy MSFT`
`10:46.30`	`franck`	`trixter: but then, when I created extensions in amp, it did not want to see them...`
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`10:46.58`	`trixter`	`franck: *_additional.conf is not standard asterisk its mostly an amp thing and not a bad idea, do you really want your webserver to have perms to write to every other file? I wouldnt.. but then I dont do web based configs ...`
`10:47.21`	`trixter`	`benjk: harder solution than you may think and may be quite costly for many corporations`
`10:47.30`	`benjk`	`not at all`
`10:47.44`	`trixter`	`converting data is not free, converting apps is not free, there is not always an open source equivalent, retraining workers is not free`
`10:47.47`	`benjk`	`MacOSX has fax built in for example`
`10:48.06`	`benjk`	`no extra licenses`
`10:48.08`	`trixter`	`there is a program that my father uses that does not have anything but windows support and it doesnt work in wine`
`10:48.13`	`trixter`	`how will that help him?`
`10:48.15`	`wasim`	`and get schnookered into proprietary hw`
`10:48.32`	`benjk`	`trixter: you have just proven my point`
`10:48.33`	`franck`	`trixter: I agree with you.. it is just I did not get AMP to work correctly yet, so I preffered to remove AMP config files to go back to basics and see how to get this phone running...`
`10:48.42`	`trixter`	`he wants to use a laptop why should my father pay more for a several year old design (ie the g4)`
`10:48.45`	`Remosi`	`what does the "isAstFormat" parameter mean to ast_rtp_lookup_code?`
`10:48.51`	`franck`	`then now that I know this phone works with *, I can play with AMP`
`10:48.54`	`trixter`	`benjk: that macos cant do everything? I didnt realize that was your point`
`10:49.06`	`trixter`	`there is no software that does everything my father needs from this one app aside from windows`
`10:49.10`	`wasim`	`25/3 :)`
`10:49.28`	`benjk`	`the point is this: use MSFT and get f****ed by MSFT`
`10:49.32`	`trixter`	`there are a few different open source projects, no known mac products, but none of them work together the same way nor do any of them provide the full suite of functions`
`10:49.42`	`davidw`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/app_rxfax+and+app_txfax`
`10:49.44`	`trixter`	`ahh so being able to run software is a bad thing now?`
`10:49.52`	`davidw`	`I don't see where to put the number though`
`10:49.53`	`trixter`	`I thought being able to run software on the computer was the idea`
`10:50.09`	`benjk`	`anything to do with MSFT is a bad thing by default`
`10:50.13`	`benjk`	`period`
`10:50.14`	`trixter`	`davidw: you have to create a call file by that example, which has the nmuber at the top of the file`
`10:50.27`	`trixter`	`aside from the fact that it lets my father do something he couldnt do otherwise`
`10:50.34`	`trixter`	`and that is just one example`
`10:50.41`	`benjk`	`just one excuse`
`10:51.01`	`trixter`	`find me an equivalent software title and perhaps you can claim to have a valid point.. the software specifically is 'the captain'`
`10:51.04`	`benjk`	`if it wasnt for such excuses we would have long left MSFT behind us`
`10:51.15`	`trixter`	`good luck on that hunt btw becuase my father has looked for alternatives`
`10:51.58`	`wasim`	`its a rpg`
`10:52.07`	`wasim`	`your dad likes games :)`
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`10:52.11`	`benjk`	`its only because everybody is eager to make such excuses, why they absolutely have to use MSFT, that we are in this predicament in the first place`
`10:52.30`	`benjk`	`would you give your money knowingly to the Mafia?`
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`10:52.32`	`trixter`	`find me a replacement that does everything that software does`
`10:52.33`	`benjk`	`I woudn;t`
`10:52.41`	`benjk`	`MSFT == software mafia`
`10:52.45`	`trixter`	`you keep ranting but arent proving that there is an alternative`
`10:52.52`	`benjk`	`who cares`
`10:52.56`	`trixter`	`you say its an excuse but arent proving its not`
`10:53.07`	`trixter`	`becuase you know that your bias is getting in the way of rational thought`
`10:53.12`	`benjk`	`I wouldn't throw my money into a proven and convicted criminal organisation`
`10:53.21`	`trixter`	`if the system needs to do task X and software that does all of task X exists on one platform its not an excuse`
`10:53.35`	`trixter`	`unless you are saying that he should use inferior software just to satisfy your bias`
`10:53.51`	`benjk`	`yes I am biased against organised crime`
`10:53.55`	`trixter`	`http://www.thecapn.com/ that is the maker of the software btw`
`10:54.06`	`trixter`	`but in this case there is no alternative`
`10:54.19`	`benjk`	`still not a valid excuse to support organised crime`
`10:54.20`	`trixter`	`even less if he were to get raped spending more money for an inferior hardware design like the g4 laptops`
`10:54.28`	`wasim`	`there is, but not 100% alternative`
`10:54.31`	`trixter`	`no its not to support a company that locks you into hardware with no choice`
`10:54.32`	`trixter`	`you are right`
`10:54.46`	`trixter`	`but it is a valid reason to use software that gets the job done instead of something that refuses to let you do it`
`10:54.52`	`trixter`	`and adds a higher cost to boot`
`10:54.58`	`trixter`	`this game can be played both ways`
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`10:55.14`	`trixter`	`anyone that forces you to go through them for hardware upgrades is a bit sketchy`
`10:55.24`	`trixter`	`like an organized crime figure that forces you to only buy their overpriced goods`
`10:55.54`	`Remosi`	`why do I need an struct ast_rtp * when calling ast_rtp_lookup_code?`
`10:55.57`	`benjk`	`MacOSX is one example of an alternative platform, I didn't say you have to use it. Its one example of how you don't get f****ed by money extortion for features that should be part of the OS. There are others, basically anything that's Unix based is a viable alternative to Windoze`
`10:55.59`	`trixter`	`wasim: there is nothing that does everything that title does, there are a few open source projects that let you do parts but not all, and then the parts cant talk to each other without major work...`
`10:56.14`	`trixter`	`yes you get extorted by apple I agrtee with you`
`10:56.21`	`wasim`	`trixter: sometimes you have to give a little to gain a lot`
`10:56.24`	`trixter`	`they extort people into buying their expensive outdated laptops all the time`
`10:56.34`	`trixter`	`we are in total agreement apple is like organized crime for the reasons you stated`
`10:56.42`	`trixter`	`wasim: you give a lot to gain nothing`
`10:56.48`	`benjk`	`that;s MSFT propagansa`
`10:56.51`	`benjk`	`propaganda`
`10:56.51`	`trixter`	`the inability to do tasks isnt gaining anything`
`10:57.00`	`benjk`	`you don't need 3GHz heaters`
`10:57.02`	`trixter`	`yes apple propaganda that a g4 is current technology`
`10:57.06`	`trixter`	`yet their desktops use the g5 hmm`
`10:57.17`	`benjk`	`I don't even know what my CPU clock rate is`
`10:57.20`	`trixter`	`yes apple propaganda that they dont lock you in, yet their hardware is um ... well theirs`
`10:57.24`	`benjk`	`it doens't concern me at all`
`10:57.37`	`benjk`	`I don't suffer from penis envy`
`10:57.57`	`trixter`	`I max out my systems all the time just because you dont use them the same way doesnt mean that a G4 would beat an athalon x2`
`10:58.09`	`trixter`	`its not penis envy to actually use the cpu`
`10:58.14`	`trixter`	`I dont run idle 24/7 like most`
`10:58.24`	`benjk`	`99% of computer users don't need anything like those systems sold today`
`10:58.29`	`trixter`	`and I wouldnt dream of doing half of what I have done this week on something like a g4`
`10:58.44`	`benjk`	`thats one of the reasons why the sales are in a slump, people don't see the point`
`10:58.47`	`trixter`	`especially when I have to pay MORE to get that g4 and have to pay MORE to upgrade it via one and only one extortionist vendor, ie apple`
`10:58.49`	`trixter`	`the game works both ways`
`10:59.12`	`trixter`	`I prefer choice however, and with non proprietary hardware I have more choice`
`10:59.12`	`benjk`	`Dell laptops are actually more expensive when feature pared`
`10:59.31`	`trixter`	`your solution of getting inferior softwar ethat doesnt do everything required and costs more is hardly a solution`
`10:59.40`	`trixter`	`I never said dell did I?`
`10:59.56`	`trixter`	`and I thought your bias was against msft not against dell.. we werent talking about dell nor did I bring them up`
`10:59.59`	`trixter`	`you are wandering`
`11:00.03`	`benjk`	`I couldn't care less. All I am saying is that I find it despicable that people support organised crime`
`11:00.07`	`benjk`	`period`
`11:00.11`	`trixter`	`as if you cant justify your point so now you have to reach to try to make it make sense`
`11:00.18`	`trixter`	`yes I dont support apple`
`11:00.26`	`trixter`	`so you cant find me despicable for supporting organized crime`
`11:00.28`	`benjk`	`Apple is not convicted of any crime`
`11:00.31`	`benjk`	`MSFT is`
`11:00.31`	`trixter`	`vendors that lock you into their product`
`11:00.32`	`trixter`	`man`
`11:00.37`	`benjk`	`and a repeat offender`
`11:00.42`	`trixter`	`you have to be crazy to go with a vendor that locks you in like that`
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`11:00.44`	`benjk`	`convicted repeat offender`
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`11:01.01`	`benjk`	`MSFT doesn't lock you in right?`
`11:01.02`	`trixter`	`that doesnt diminish the fact that apple locks you into their product the same claim you have against msft`
`11:01.03`	`benjk`	`hahahaha`
`11:01.18`	`benjk`	`its not a claim`
`11:01.27`	`trixter`	`it isnt?`
`11:01.31`	`trixter`	`you didnt claim that?`
`11:01.33`	`benjk`	`it is a decision made by US courts and upheld by US courts`
`11:01.42`	`trixter`	`um you need to stay on point`
`11:01.45`	`trixter`	`instead of wandering`
`11:01.55`	`trixter`	`you have made a claim that msft locks you into their product, I have said that apple does the same thing`
`11:02.01`	`trixter`	`you seem to think that apple doesnt lock you into their hardware`
`11:02.04`	`benjk`	`thus, MSFT => convicted criminal serving a sentence`
`11:02.06`	`trixter`	`yet they really seem bent on that`
`11:02.13`	`trixter`	`not serving a sentence`
`11:02.18`	`benjk`	`yes they are`
`11:02.19`	`trixter`	`they have no sentence they are serving right now`
`11:02.27`	`benjk`	`too mild but they do`
`11:02.38`	`benjk`	`they are under supervision`
`11:02.59`	`benjk`	`and every once in a while the court has to remind them`
`11:03.03`	`trixter`	`so if apple does the same thing and you claim apple is better for locking you into apple products vs msft which locks you into their operating system (yet not their other products) you are a hypocrite`
`11:03.09`	`benjk`	`when they are about to step over the line again`
`11:03.11`	`trixter`	`if its wrong for one its wrong for all`
`11:03.24`	`trixter`	`you however cant see that due to bias`
`11:03.30`	`trixter`	`the bias of a zealot`
`11:03.38`	`benjk`	`Apple would be in the position to open up its OS for other hardware vendors if it wasn't for MSFT`
`11:03.50`	`trixter`	`ahh so they do the same stuff`
`11:03.51`	`trixter`	`I see`
`11:04.01`	`benjk`	`besides, I would prefer DEC/VMS any day of the week`
`11:04.22`	`benjk`	`I am not a zealot`
`11:04.27`	`trixter`	`I would prefer a lot of things however there is no software that does what is needed by my father so he has no choice but to run that software or give up a lot of features`
`11:04.33`	`trixter`	`features he is unwilling to give up, and I cant blame him`
`11:04.38`	`benjk`	`as I said I don't care`
`11:04.57`	`trixter`	`you cared earlier when you were arguing about that point specifically`
`11:05.05`	`trixter`	`now that you cant prove that its an invalid issue you dont care`
`11:05.06`	`trixter`	`I see`
`11:05.07`	`trixter`	`zealot`
`11:05.07`	`benjk`	`if I cannot buy any butter other than from a mafia shop, I dont buy butter, I buy margarine instead, its that simple`
`11:05.10`	`trixter`	`zealot`
`11:05.18`	`trixter`	`I dont buy apples`
`11:05.19`	`trixter`	`I told you that`
`11:05.23`	`trixter`	`I dont shop at mafia stores`
`11:05.25`	`benjk`	`I didnt say you should`
`11:05.28`	`trixter`	`I told you that, the two are the same thing`
`11:05.45`	`benjk`	`it was one example of how fax software comes bundled from non-MSFT sources`
`11:05.55`	`benjk`	`I am sure there are other such examples`
`11:06.12`	`trixter`	`it comes with a lot of non msft sources`
`11:06.20`	`benjk`	`so?`
`11:06.21`	`trixter`	`however that isnt the application that my father needs`
`11:06.30`	`trixter`	`further you implies that porting code retraining users etc was all free`
`11:06.30`	`benjk`	`all I said was I gave one example`
`11:06.48`	`benjk`	`the point however is that one should never buy MSFT, no matter what the circumstances are`
`11:07.18`	`benjk`	`anything else is just fine`
`11:07.27`	`trixter`	`one should never buy apple for the same reason`
`11:07.35`	`trixter`	`if one locks you in to their stuff its bad then its bad for anyone that locks you in`
`11:07.38`	`RoyK`	`zoa: ping`
`11:07.40`	`RoyK`	`~seen zoa`
`11:07.50`	`jbot`	`zoa is currently on #asterisk (1h 19m 14s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1h 14m 17s`
`11:07.52`	`trixter`	`and if you cant see that you arep roving my zealot comments`
`11:07.52`	`benjk`	`if Apple had 80 or 90% market share, I would agree`
`11:07.52`	`benjk`	`otherwise not`
`11:08.04`	`trixter`	`its either right or wrong not if they sell overpriced hardware so they cant get market share`
`11:08.20`	`trixter`	`if the action is wrong then its wrong for all`
`11:08.35`	`trixter`	`I however dont like paying extra money to get less performance`
`11:08.49`	`trixter`	`and lets face it a G4 cant compete against an athalon x2`
`11:09.02`	`trixter`	`yet laptops with that cost about the same`
`11:09.08`	`benjk`	`then run Linux or BSD or Solaris on it`
`11:09.14`	`trixter`	`granted that is a few generations above the g4 but hey`
`11:09.24`	`benjk`	`thats opinion`
`11:09.29`	`benjk`	`but it is besides the point`
`11:09.48`	`trixter`	`as stated earlier other operating systems dont run the specific app that my father needs so he has to run windows`
`11:10.00`	`trixter`	`unless you can find a mac alternative, which I am sure one doesnt exist`
`11:10.01`	`benjk`	`I did make the same argument about MSFT when I was still using DEC workstation and never had touched any Apple product`
`11:10.15`	`benjk`	`so this isn't about Apple`
`11:10.18`	`trixter`	`but you bought into a mafia organization anyway`
`11:10.19`	`benjk`	`it is about MSFT`
`11:10.19`	`trixter`	`I see`
`11:10.23`	`trixter`	`hypocrites abound`
`11:10.38`	`benjk`	`no other company has been convicted`
`11:10.45`	`trixter`	`if the actions by msft are wrong then they are wrong no matter who does them, anything less is the speech of a zealot`
`11:10.50`	`benjk`	`not Sun, not HP, not IBM, not Apple`
`11:10.54`	`trixter`	`convictions dont matter if something is wrong or not`
`11:10.59`	`trixter`	`you said its wrong to lock you into their product`
`11:11.03`	`trixter`	`something apple brags about`
`11:11.21`	`benjk`	`you are evading the issue`
`11:11.43`	`trixter`	`the issue that you said that its wrong to lock someone into a product?`
`11:11.44`	`benjk`	`the issue is an illegal monopoly and illegal business practises`
`11:12.02`	`trixter`	`or the issue where you are completly unable to find an alternative but say its bad to do something with no alternative`
`11:12.03`	`benjk`	`found by a court of law`
`11:12.14`	`trixter`	`they are not currently operating illegally`
`11:12.15`	`benjk`	`and confirmed by a court of law`
`11:12.23`	`trixter`	`show me a conviction that stated anytime last week they did that`
`11:12.33`	`trixter`	`so it boils down to if its wrong for one its wrong for all`
`11:12.45`	`trixter`	`bias has no place in this discussion`
`11:12.50`	`trixter`	`not does zealotry`
`11:13.09`	`benjk`	`if any other company gets to that point I will be arguing the same way`
`11:13.17`	`trixter`	`as of this last week apple and msft have been doing the same thing, trying to lock people into their products.`
`11:13.20`	`benjk`	`no matter which company`
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`11:13.26`	`trixter`	`it is either right or wrong`
`11:13.43`	`trixter`	`if a company cant sell its product that doesnt make it right`
`11:13.44`	`benjk`	`you are evading the issue still`
`11:13.52`	`benjk`	`illegal monopoly`
`11:13.57`	`trixter`	`its not illegal`
`11:14.02`	`benjk`	`thats what I am talking about`
`11:14.07`	`trixter`	`show me a conviction that said last weeks activities of msft is illegal`
`11:14.12`	`trixter`	`just one conviction`
`11:14.22`	`benjk`	`if it wasn't how come they had to settle`
`11:14.23`	`trixter`	`it only takes one`
`11:14.34`	`benjk`	`and in the EU it was found illegal too`
`11:14.53`	`trixter`	`sometimes settling is cheaper, however that doesnt show a conviction as you have been saying.. if they are operating illegally last week as proven by a court as you have said in here I will believe you`
`11:15.05`	`trixter`	`until you can show me a conviction of last weeks actions then they arnet doing what you claim`
`11:15.15`	`benjk`	`they arent ?`
`11:15.17`	`trixter`	`it only takes one conviction`
`11:15.31`	`trixter`	`not your word but an actual court to back up your claims`
`11:15.42`	`trixter`	`ya know the claims that its proven in court`
`11:15.52`	`RoyK`	`~lart zoa`
`11:15.55`	`trixter`	`just one conviction... that is all it will take`
`11:16.10`	`benjk`	`you can ride on language as long as you want, it will not impress me`
`11:16.29`	`trixter`	`you can claim something you cant prove and show your bias and act like a zealot it wont impress me`
`11:16.37`	`benjk`	`fact is that the court had to step in and that the court has to supervise microsoft`
`11:16.43`	`benjk`	`Korea same thing`
`11:16.44`	`trixter`	`which court did that last week?`
`11:16.47`	`benjk`	`EU same thing`
`11:16.48`	`trixter`	`show me`
`11:16.52`	`benjk`	`Japan same thing`
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`11:17.06`	`trixter`	`show me either japan, korea or EU for this last week`
`11:17.08`	`trixter`	`any of them`
`11:17.14`	`trixter`	`hell any court at all`
`11:17.15`	`benjk`	`all those actions against MSFT are of cause totally pointless`
`11:17.20`	`trixter`	`instead of just claiming stuff without proof`
`11:17.21`	`trixter`	`just one`
`11:17.41`	`benjk`	`pointless right?`
`11:17.43`	`trixter`	`it only takes one case to show that you arent a liar`
`11:17.44`	`benjk`	`say it`
`11:17.57`	`trixter`	`yes its pointless to listen to what you are saying becuase its jhuyst you being a zealot`
`11:18.14`	`trixter`	`and aparently lying why you wont find me that one case you keep speaking of especially when you say it happened in 3 countries but cant find a single case`
`11:18.19`	`trixter`	`why are you lying?`
`11:18.23`	`trixter`	`its not nice to lie`
`11:18.31`	`trixter`	`you should be honest and not a zealot ...`
`11:18.38`	`trixter`	`its not really that hard`
`11:18.43`	`benjk`	`you are riding on sublteties of language`
`11:18.51`	`trixter`	`that you said something I asked for proof you refused`
`11:18.58`	`trixter`	`and continued to make those claims`
`11:19.10`	`benjk`	`and I am looking at the only fact that matters: monopolies are bad`
`11:19.23`	`trixter`	`your refusal to provide any proof of your claims when it would be so easy and end this is interesting`
`11:19.45`	`benjk`	`as I said riding on language subtleties`
`11:19.48`	`trixter`	`your bias saying its ok for one company (the one you use and support) but not for its competitor for the same effective actions is also questionable`
`11:19.59`	`benjk`	`fact is courts and antitrust bodies had to step in`
`11:20.04`	`trixter`	`ahh so we are switching topics now`
`11:20.11`	`benjk`	`they had to`
`11:20.24`	`trixter`	`cant prove the old point and wnat to make an ew one?`
`11:20.27`	`trixter`	`I see how it goes`
`11:20.40`	`trixter`	`I understand completly`
`11:20.42`	`benjk`	`because monopolies are bad for the market`
`11:21.01`	`franck`	`Where do I find AGI.pm ?`
`11:21.09`	`trixter`	`you couldnt prove your original point so now its onto something else`
`11:21.12`	`trixter`	`icann is a monopoly`
`11:21.12`	`wasim`	`franck: gnuinter.net`
`11:21.18`	`trixter`	`is icann evil for that reason?`
`11:21.29`	`davidw`	`microsoft was convicted in the US of abusing their monopoly.`
`11:21.35`	`benjk`	`yes, and I am not pleased about many of the things ICANN is doing either`
`11:21.41`	`trixter`	`last week as benjk kept claiming?`
`11:21.43`	`trixter`	`no I think not`
`11:21.50`	`davidw`	`no, several years ago`
`11:21.54`	`trixter`	`but are they evil for what they did or becuase they are a monopoly?`
`11:22.02`	`davidw`	`that doesn't reflect on their current activities - they may or may not be continuing the abuse`
`11:22.07`	`benjk`	`davidw: that's what trixter is disputing because he is "reading between the lines"`
`11:22.26`	`trixter`	`davidw: there was more recent stuff than that but I was talknig about last week and benjk kept saying they were`
`11:22.33`	`davidw`	`trixter, they were convicted of abusing the monopoly, not of having one, IIRC`
`11:22.42`	`trixter`	`so the more he insisted that last week was the case I asked for proof`
`11:22.44`	`trixter`	`he refused`
`11:22.59`	`davidw`	`given their past behaviour, I wouldn't trust them one bit, myself`
`11:23.03`	`benjk`	`they are under supervision and every now and then they get called back by the supervising court`
`11:23.06`	`trixter`	`davidw gets the point`
`11:23.07`	`davidw`	`thanks for the help, in any case`
`11:23.13`	`benjk`	`that alone shows that they are still up to their tricks`
`11:23.25`	`trixter`	`only conivctions are proof`
`11:23.28`	`trixter`	`as you pointed out earlier`
`11:24.21`	`trixter`	`and that still doesnt resolve the issue that started this, my father has no choice, not becuase of anything msft did but becuase there is only one company that makes a product that does all the things he needs and there is no alternative to that singular program, which the company only writes for windows, so he has to use windows for that reason`
`11:24.44`	`benjk`	`the way it has been reoported on the non-redneck media is "MSFT have been found by a US court to have been abusing in illegal ways what they court found to be a monopoly"`
`11:25.07`	`trixter`	`besides what happened to 'freedom in software' that is the mantra of the FOSS community? doesnt freedom include the freedom to choose? even if the choice is not one someone else would make?`
`11:25.23`	`trixter`	`having a monopoly at least here is not illegal`
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`11:25.26`	`trixter`	`never has been`
`11:25.49`	`trixter`	`and that doesnt mean they did last week as you claimed over and over`
`11:25.58`	`trixter`	`and you have still not provided any proof of your claim`
`11:26.01`	`trixter`	`which doesnt exist btw`
`11:26.02`	`benjk`	`someone else is fine, just not a monopoly that is a) found by a court to be one, b) found by a court to have been abusing the monopoly`
`11:26.18`	`benjk`	`last week?`
`11:26.19`	`mrtwister`	`hello, looking for company like sipgate or stanaphone or ipkall :) which providing DID number in Hong Kong, better for free :)`
`11:26.24`	`mrtwister`	`anyone know ?`
`11:26.24`	`trixter`	`oh now you dont remember`
`11:26.25`	`trixter`	`I see`
`11:26.48`	`trixter`	`mrtwister: nope dont know any for HK but if you find one I would like to update my page of free providers :)`
`11:26.48`	`*** part/#asterisk tiramisu (n=marten@nl112-162-231.student.uu.se)`
`11:27.23`	`mrtwister`	`trixter: :) ok but i dont find`
`11:27.45`	`trixter`	`mrtwister: I gathered that, however if you do find one I would like to know about it :)`
`11:27.46`	`benjk`	`mrtwister: Deltapath`
`11:27.53`	`benjk`	`but not free`
`11:27.54`	`trixter`	`they do free dids?`
`11:27.56`	`trixter`	`ahh`
`11:28.28`	`trixter`	`mrtwister: dont forget calluk.com which seemed to have better ping times to me anyway than sipgate`
`11:28.58`	`trixter`	`although I personally dont like NCFA numbers ... there is a LCFA provider on my page.. somewhere off http://www.0xdecafbad.com/ within the first few links there is a 'free provider' list`
`11:29.03`	`benjk`	`is there such a thing as a free DID anyway?`
`11:29.10`	`trixter`	`I have 6`
`11:29.29`	`trixter`	`germany, UK, ny, washington state, california, and um .. wherei s the other`
`11:29.36`	`trixter`	`I know there are 6 I have I just forget where one is`
`11:29.38`	`trixter`	`oh mass`
`11:29.46`	`trixter`	`goiax.com has some mass dids free`
`11:29.47`	`benjk`	`free as in free of any charges (not only basic fee waived) and to anyone?`
`11:29.56`	`trixter`	`or at least did I think they were all used up really fast`
`11:30.03`	`trixter`	`no cost what so ever`
`11:30.04`	`benjk`	`or free as in basic fee waived by metered incoming calls`
`11:30.07`	`trixter`	`for any of those that I have`
`11:30.21`	`trixter`	`I have done 30 channels at the same time off stanaphone which is free for inbound`
`11:30.27`	`benjk`	`or free as in complementary to a few select people who are personally known`
`11:30.36`	`trixter`	`that was an accident and I think it doesnt work anymore (it might)`
`11:30.37`	`mrtwister`	`i have free in UK (2 providers) in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, in Italy, USA (NY and WA)`
`11:30.45`	`mrtwister`	`free DID's i mean`
`11:30.50`	`mrtwister`	`and in Italy`
`11:30.54`	`trixter`	`ohh I would like .at and .ch if you could`
`11:30.55`	`trixter`	`and .it`
`11:30.58`	`benjk`	`yeah but do you get charged on incoming calls on those?`
`11:31.06`	`trixter`	`I dont get charged anything anytime`
`11:31.12`	`trixter`	`no monthly, no per minute nothing`
`11:31.17`	`trixter`	`why its on my 'free provider page'`
`11:31.38`	`mrtwister`	`trixter: www.messagenet.it, use babelfish to tranlate. also you need 'fiscal code', generators is online, google for it`
`11:31.50`	`mrtwister`	`trixter: sipgate.at`
`11:32.03`	`benjk`	`and that is availble to anybody or is it just a complementary thing that you get if you know somebody personally?`
`11:32.17`	`trixter`	`ahh sipgate again.. ok well at least its one more country :) wonder if its premium like the UK ones (ok not 'premium' per se but NCFA - national rate)`
`11:32.27`	`mrtwister`	`trixter: for .ch i now not remember, there is 4 providers. but .ch and .at and .de will give non-geographic numbers`
`11:32.27`	`benjk`	`I am trying to understand their business model`
`11:32.28`	`trixter`	`benjk: anyone`
`11:32.39`	`benjk`	`so why do they offer it`
`11:32.46`	`mrtwister`	`btw, sipgate is not uk company :)`
`11:32.58`	`trixter`	`sipgate gives out NCFA numbers they get paid per minute`
`11:33.04`	`trixter`	`any 44 870 number is NCFA`
`11:33.17`	`trixter`	`they average about 5-6 cents per minute (3-4 pence)`
`11:33.21`	`benjk`	`oh well, yes those I know, I have a few of those myself`
`11:33.32`	`trixter`	`stanaphone appears to be doing it for access charges`
`11:33.40`	`trixter`	`I know ipkall does it for that becuase its a real telco that does that`
`11:34.19`	`mrtwister`	`trixter: i have london did from sipgate`
`11:34.21`	`trixter`	`goiax was giving out commpartners dids and I dont know about that cause commpartners marks all traffic as ESP so there is no access charge`
`11:34.28`	`trixter`	`really ... free?`
`11:34.32`	`trixter`	`020 [7-8] ?`
`11:34.33`	`mrtwister`	`trixter: when was in london i registered... or you can use proxy`
`11:34.42`	`mrtwister`	`trixter: yes 0207, free`
`11:34.52`	`trixter`	`I have boxes in london proxies arent a problem :)`
`11:34.55`	`trixter`	`Hmm`
`11:35.06`	`trixter`	`I may have to revisit them ... cause I dont like the fact that mine is a NCFA`
`11:35.07`	`mrtwister`	`trixter: you need to provide valid uk address with valid zip and be in uk or use uk proxy`
`11:35.12`	`benjk`	`which other countries have UK style 0870 numbers?`
`11:35.23`	`trixter`	`none afaik but odds are there are some`
`11:35.30`	`trixter`	`most its geo, mobile or premium`
`11:35.47`	`trixter`	`and lets not forget about UK LCFA (845) or national rate (10p BT rate 871)`
`11:35.49`	`*** join/#asterisk psk (n=psk@golia.caltanet.it)`
`11:36.15`	`trixter`	`there are a few different rates that are in the UK but 448* is getting blacklisted cause many providers were offering calls to those 'unlimited'`
`11:36.25`	`trixter`	`and people were using that to call their own NCFA or whatever and making money off it`
`11:37.18`	`trixter`	`for $20 broadvoice used to give you unlimited to NCFA ... at 10p/min average rate its not hard to get $20 in calls`
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`11:37.25`	`PakiPenguin`	`evening`
`11:37.29`	`trixter`	`morning`
`11:37.31`	`mrtwister`	`benjk: many countries have 870 style numbers`
`11:37.54`	`trixter`	`mrtwister: that arent premium? NCFA dont fall into the premium category`
`11:38.00`	`benjk`	`but can you get them as VoIP delivered service free of charge?`
`11:38.05`	`trixter`	`getting one doesnt require ofcoms approval or anything`
`11:38.16`	`mrtwister`	`benjk: germany, austria, switzerland`
`11:38.33`	`benjk`	`which provider?`
`11:38.42`	`trixter`	`870 costs the caller a fixed rate per minute, they are non-geographical numbers`
`11:39.02`	`trixter`	`and that rate is often higher than they pay for a call across the nation anyway`
`11:39.33`	`trixter`	`they are semi-premium in that they work like one but legislatively arent one ... US doesnt really do anything like that anymore, instead we have regular and premium`
`11:39.55`	`trixter`	`we used to have something like that but no one uses it cause its not that expensive and those services always take such a large percentage of the call money`
`11:40.15`	`RoyK`	`zoa: hello?`
`11:40.27`	`RoyK`	`~lart zoa for not answering`
`11:42.43`	`Remosi`	`can anyone help me with trying to write a new channel driver for libjingle?`
`11:47.24`	`PakiPenguin`	`rubber chicken wont hurt`
`11:51.04`	`trixter`	`mrtwister: btw the reason that sipgate has to ask for your mailing addr is the UK law that requires phone companies to 'know their customer' they dont have to verify the info, only ask for it and store it... most dont bother to verify it if they arent charging`
`11:51.37`	`mrtwister`	`trixter: i just put address in hotel where i was`
`11:51.56`	`mrtwister`	`trixter: and all clear, at the moment i was in uk and in such hotel :) so, valid address :)`
`11:52.05`	`RoyK`	`trixter: it's pretty nice to know people's addresses in case they dial emergency`
`11:52.55`	`trixter`	`these were inbound only`
`11:53.05`	`trixter`	`so it cant happen, infact doing 999 from voip in the UK is really hard`
`11:53.15`	`trixter`	`I believe that most cant provide that even if they wanted to`
`11:54.26`	`trixter`	`mrtwister: afaik the law requires the phone providers to collect the info but doesnt require them to verify nor does it require the customer to provide accurate info`
`11:54.28`	`benjk`	`the UK has no ID cards and no mandatory registration`
`11:54.29`	`trixter`	`ie a useless law`
`11:54.42`	`RoyK`	`trixter: kidding? i work for an itsp in .no and we're _required_ to file all addresses to customers just because of emergency`
`11:54.47`	`trixter`	`benjk: where id that come from?`
`11:55.04`	`RoyK`	`benjk: id cards?`
`11:55.13`	`trixter`	`royk: I read somewhere from a voip provider in the UK that they cant becuase of current legislation provide any 999 service`
`11:55.19`	`mrtwister`	`no... in germany you can get voip geographic did when will show that live at this place`
`11:55.21`	`benjk`	`as a result of this, the culture there is about verifying you by all sorts of means, like showing an electricty bill plus a TV license etc etc etc`
`11:55.21`	`mrtwister`	`thereis law`
`11:55.34`	`mrtwister`	`i think it will be everywhere`
`11:55.42`	`benjk`	`and you often find that UK companies just do this sort of thing out of routine`
`11:55.52`	`mrtwister`	`since you can do some fraud and criminal with local dids`
`11:55.52`	`trixter`	`benjk: oh yeah there are many people that use utility bills there to open bank accounts and stuff`
`11:55.53`	`benjk`	`even if the legislation doesn't ask for it`
`11:55.58`	`benjk`	`yep`
`11:56.09`	`benjk`	`you need to have two utility bills`
`11:56.21`	`trixter`	`there was a guy that got popped recvently for opening false lines of credit like 89 accounts or something at several different banks, doing a few million in fraud`
`11:56.25`	`trixter`	`fake passports too, but meh`
`11:56.28`	`benjk`	`so if you go to the UK and start settling in, it can be difficult`
`11:56.38`	`trixter`	`his primary identification was a utility bill and stuff that way`
`11:56.51`	`trixter`	`I lived in scotland I am familiar with itr`
`11:56.54`	`benjk`	`because likely you will at first live sublet and have no utility bills with your name on`
`11:57.02`	`RoyK`	`trixter: where in scotland?`
`11:57.07`	`trixter`	`edinburgh`
`11:57.14`	`RoyK`	`ok`
`11:57.15`	`benjk`	`I registered for a TV license even though I didn't have a TV :-)`
`11:57.24`	`trixter`	`worked at charlotte square, lived 3 blocks north of princess gardens`
`11:57.35`	`RoyK`	`i was in scotland last summer.... we even had good weather most of the time :)`
`11:57.59`	`benjk`	`don't remember what I used for the second utility bill though`
`11:58.41`	`trixter`	`I was paid in cash cause my employeer didnt want to wait for a work permit`
`11:58.48`	`trixter`	`he needed someone right then as opposed to 6 months from then`
`11:58.50`	`trixter`	`:P`
`11:59.02`	`benjk`	`well, I didn't need a work permit`
`12:00.06`	`trixter`	`I gotta say though in just a couple days I had walked literaelly everywhere in edinburgh and done just about everything`
`12:00.16`	`trixter`	`its not that big of a city`
`12:00.29`	`benjk`	`most cities in Europe are like that`
`12:00.37`	`benjk`	`there aren't that many metropoles`
`12:00.37`	`trixter`	`even researched my family a bit, didnt find anything becuase I was looking for the wrong stuff, but meh`
`12:01.01`	`trixter`	`I seem to recall some larger ones in germany and austria but ... glasgow is the big city in scotland`
`12:01.26`	`trixter`	`and far closer to where my scottish ancestory comes from, although edinburgh isnt bad in that regard`
`12:02.09`	`trixter`	`look at ireland though.. 50% live in dublin county.. the other 2M people live in the other 25 counties`
`12:02.17`	`trixter`	`cork being #2 population wise`
`12:02.53`	`trixter`	`think cork city has 150k people the county even more.. so almost everyone in ireland lives in those two places.. a country that has more rural areas than where I currently live ...`
`12:02.53`	`trixter`	`heh`
`12:03.38`	`trixter`	`to quote a travel guide on ireland 'limerick is best seen through the rear view mirror in your auto'`
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`12:07.18`	`viperdude`	`hi all`
`12:08.30`	`RoyK`	`trixter: norway is about the same as ireland in that perspective`
`12:09.16`	`trixter`	`doesnt suprise me given how far north it is`
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`12:10.03`	`RoyK`	`viperdude: telford would range like the 4th largest town in .no`
`12:10.21`	`RoyK`	`or something`
`12:10.26`	`Remosi`	`who would I ask about questions about asterisk internals?`
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`12:14.11`	`franck`	`where do I find playback "call-waiting" ?`
`12:15.19`	`mrtwister`	`franck: updatedb && locate waiting \| grep .gsm`
`12:16.01`	`viperdude`	`RoyK huh? telford is in England`
`12:16.24`	`RoyK`	`viperdude: i know :)`
`12:16.30`	`viperdude`	`okh ok :-)`
`12:16.33`	`RoyK`	`viperdude: i said 'would'`
`12:16.47`	`RoyK`	`in comparison`
`12:17.01`	`viperdude`	`when you said .no i wondered what you meant`
`12:17.21`	`RoyK`	`oslo, capital, largest (only?) city has some 550k ppl`
`12:18.46`	`sivana`	`does this look right? exten => s,5,GotoIf($["${iRet}" = "1"]?7052237158_CA\|s\|1:7052237158_US\|s\|1)`
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`12:23.43`	`trixter`	`I am seriously thinking about tossing a box in isle of man for some stuff.. mostly cuase their government will pay a lot of your start up costs if you set up shop there and if you refuse to sell to IoM residents you are tax exempt :P`
`12:24.10`	`trixter`	`start up costs include first years salaries for employees too`
`12:25.34`	`wasim`	`hire me! hire me!`
`12:25.48`	`trixter`	`heh`
`12:26.00`	`trixter`	`first I gotta battle down my current work load`
`12:26.36`	`trixter`	`setting up a call center expecting to do 600k minutes as a test and going to 10M minutes a month after that.. that project should give me enough that I can start to do other things on a mass scale plus I will have time once that is over`
`12:26.44`	`trixter`	`two very nice positions to be in`
`12:27.17`	`zoa`	`:)`
`12:28.59`	`viperdude`	`trixter are you good with * and call centers`
`12:28.59`	`viperdude`	`?`
`12:29.18`	`trixter`	`I am doing one now`
`12:29.25`	`trixter`	`did you have a more specific question?`
`12:29.35`	`zoa`	`hehe trixter`
`12:29.40`	`viperdude`	`ok i have a small call center with cisco 7940 phones using sip`
`12:29.44`	`RoyK`	`trixter: i only need like 6k a month`
`12:30.02`	`trixter`	`RoyK: I dont need a lot of money I just want it :)`
`12:30.08`	`trixter`	`I dont want to work for the rest of my life`
`12:30.16`	`zoa`	`if anybody is looking for outsourcing callcenter activities to eastern europe, contact me :)`
`12:30.18`	`trixter`	`viperdude: havent used those phones specifically, but what is the question?`
`12:30.26`	`zoa`	`trixter: you will have to :p`
`12:30.30`	`trixter`	`zoa: where in eastern europe are you?`
`12:30.32`	`viperdude`	`when people are sitting in the queue * tries to call 7940's which are already on a call, how do I get it to recognise they are on a call so move to the next free agent`
`12:30.39`	`zoa`	`im in sofia, bulgaria (although im belgian)`
`12:30.40`	`trixter`	`zoa: after my lawsuit I may not :)`
`12:30.56`	`zoa`	`the callcenter is not mine, but they are my client`
`12:31.05`	`trixter`	`viperdude: did you set them up as agents?`
`12:31.11`	`zoa`	`who are you suing ?`
`12:31.31`	`viperdude`	`we add them to the queue dynamically using "add queue member"`
`12:31.42`	`zoa`	`and do they have money for me too ? :)`
`12:31.44`	`trixter`	`zoa: ahh.. I am looking to move back to europe after my lawsuit, but I wont turn my back on money.. the good thing is that I generally dont have to be anywhere specific to work`
`12:31.51`	`trixter`	`viperdude: what about agents?`
`12:31.59`	`trixter`	`zoa: the government`
`12:32.05`	`viperdude`	`no agents as we use add queue member`
`12:32.16`	`zoa`	`what did they do to you ? :)`
`12:32.20`	`trixter`	`agents are the call center staff that are waiting for calls`
`12:32.26`	`viperdude`	`yes i know`
`12:32.29`	`trixter`	`zoa: http://www.0xdecafbad.com/Home.html`
`12:32.46`	`trixter`	`ok, well I have always done it as agents and that has worked`
`12:33.11`	`viperdude`	`ok there was a reason we didn't want to use agents and I cant remember why`
`12:33.46`	`wasim`	`coz representatives were cheaper`
`12:34.49`	`zoa`	`trixter: ouch`
`12:34.55`	`zoa`	`sounds similar to what happened to brian`
`12:35.01`	`trixter`	`I always make an agent account that is secret.. I name it 007 cause without a secret agent 007 life wouldnt be as fun`
`12:35.03`	`trixter`	`:P`
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`12:35.24`	`zoa`	`well not completely the same`
`12:35.43`	`trixter`	`viperdude: it may be that becuase you are specifying the extension itself that is why that is happening.. is there any way to set a call limit for those users? therei s in 1.2 if you are using that`
`12:36.19`	`trixter`	`otherwise you may have issues where it rings em even when they are on the phone`
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`12:36.52`	`trixter`	`zoa: whgat happened to brian?`
`12:37.01`	`zoa`	`he is still on probation i think`
`12:37.13`	`viperdude`	`yes we are using 1.2`
`12:37.31`	`trixter`	`then it sounds like he was guilty and the government didnt confess error (a rare thing indeed) in his case`
`12:37.45`	`trixter`	`viperdude: there is a call limit you can do in sip.conf`
`12:37.52`	`trixter`	`so they cant accept more than say 1 call at a time`
`12:37.59`	`trixter`	`which should prevent that problem`
`12:38.06`	`trixter`	`I havent experienced that particular problem so I cant say`
`12:38.11`	`zoa`	`http://www.ratical.org/ratville/BrianWest.html`
`12:38.12`	`viperdude`	`is it on voip-wiki?`
`12:38.21`	`trixter`	`yeah`
`12:38.32`	`trixter`	`Asterisk+config+sip.conf iirc`
`12:38.51`	`trixter`	`zoa: I remember that where he broke into the bank a few times`
`12:39.07`	`trixter`	`well wait maybe this is something different lemme read`
`12:40.44`	`zoa`	`dunno about any banks, but he was convicted for soemthing stupid`
`12:40.46`	`zoa`	`really stupid`
`12:41.02`	`trixter`	`yeah that is the same case`
`12:41.19`	`trixter`	`at the time it happened the stories said that he broke into the bank systems and actually changed some stuff as well as a few other companies`
`12:41.22`	`trixter`	`over 2 weeks`
`12:41.40`	`trixter`	`that paper talks about how he informed the newspaper editor that his bank had similar problems`
`12:41.47`	`zoa`	`dunno about that`
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`12:42.09`	`trixter`	`but at the time all the newspaper stories suggested that he spent 2 weeks breaking into and modifying sites and only after one incident for which he thought he would be caught did he call the editor`
`12:42.15`	`trixter`	`lemme see if I can find a link`
`12:43.03`	`trixter`	`http://zork.net/pipermail/free-sklyarov/2001-August/003842.html`
`12:45.17`	`trixter`	`According to court records, West told Burchett on Feb. 7 that he had`
`12:45.17`	`trixter`	`"inadvertently" entered the website of First National Bank in McAlester, and`
`12:45.17`	`trixter`	`looked at customer checking and saving accounts and the transfers of funds.`
`12:45.45`	`trixter`	`West reportedly told an officer at the bank about the event and the bank's`
`12:45.46`	`trixter`	`lack of security. He said the bank officer thanked him but reacted "in a`
`12:45.46`	`trixter`	`hostile manner." He said he had accessed the bank's website on two other`
`12:45.46`	`trixter`	`occasions, then contacted a senior vice president of an Oklahoma City branch`
`12:45.46`	`trixter`	`of First National to advise him of what had been done.`
`12:46.09`	`trixter`	`see in that case its more than 'here is a hole you should know about' its more 'haha I rooted your system'`
`12:46.42`	`trixter`	`and there is a difference in that regard.. telling people about a hole without EVER exploiting it in any way is different from exploiting it multiple times and then finally telling people`
`12:47.11`	`trixter`	`hundreds of attempts were made too ... this is more than 'oops its accidental but here is the info'`
`12:47.28`	`zoa`	`true`
`12:47.51`	`zoa`	`i once detected something on a big banks website`
`12:48.00`	`zoa`	`tried to warn em, but then decided not to`
`12:48.07`	`zoa`	`i was affraid of punishments`
`12:48.21`	`zoa`	`so the hole stayed for another year or two`
`12:48.22`	`zoa`	`:)`
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`12:48.43`	`trixter`	`he was charged with a misdemeanor too`
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`12:49.18`	`trixter`	`first time offense of 18 USC 1030(a)(5)(c) (pre patriot act numbering) is a misdemeanor 12 months max jail 3 years supervised release and with all cases really 5 years probation`
`12:49.29`	`trixter`	`normally you dont get supervised release AND probation of any quantity`
`12:49.32`	`zoa`	`so how rich will you be now ? :)`
`12:49.56`	`trixter`	`a5a is intentional damage, a5b is reckless damage and a5c is just 'damaage' as defined in the statute`
`12:50.09`	`Remosi`	`which channel driver is the easiest channel driver to learn from?`
`12:50.26`	`zoa`	`local probably`
`12:50.30`	`trixter`	`zoa: who knows.. I should get enough that retirement is possible just not as much fun as it could be :P`
`12:50.40`	`zoa`	`hehe`
`12:50.57`	`trixter`	`average case like mine results in $2-5M to the plantiff`
`12:51.01`	`zoa`	`so when you retire and you are annoyed, come work for me for free`
`12:51.01`	`trixter`	`after lawyer fees that is`
`12:51.09`	`trixter`	`ha!`
`12:51.19`	`zoa`	`i will also start looking for some hole to exploit then :)`
`12:51.34`	`trixter`	`I didnt exploit the hole :P`
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`12:51.37`	`zoa`	`those united states lawsuits are so stupid`
`12:51.40`	`trixter`	`I just wrote a security advisory about it`
`12:52.02`	`zoa`	`never got the size of the compensations`
`12:52.18`	`trixter`	`$2M right now can get $80k/year safely.. enough to get by but not enough to live well, well depending on where youl ive I guess`
`12:52.19`	`zoa`	`although i wish you all the best of course :)`
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`12:52.31`	`coppice`	`the size is nothing compared to the dumbness of the circumstances`
`12:52.36`	`zoa`	`true`
`12:53.19`	`trixter`	`well how much does the loss of freedom for 16 months cost? what about the 7 months of supervised release where I wasnt allowed ot use a computer and thus work? about about the 9 months of bail where I wasnt allowed ot use a computer and thus work? what about the actions where they sought to destroy any company I worked at prior to my arrest (almost a year there)..`
`12:53.26`	`coppice`	`a lady tripped over a little boy in a dept store and get 1.6M. It was her own son that tripped her`
`12:53.49`	`trixter`	`there are not only the direct costs, lost wages etc, but the indirect costs`
`12:54.15`	`zoa`	`trixter: i know, but in belgium you'd probably never get 2 million $, although your case is not what im referring to`
`12:54.21`	`sivana`	`coppice: yes, but the floor moved :)`
`12:54.23`	`zoa`	`im referring to the stuff coppice is talking about`
`12:54.28`	`trixter`	`ahh that way`
`12:54.41`	`trixter`	`well there are also people that suye for only medical costs and the jury awards much more`
`12:54.53`	`trixter`	`or the states that sue manufacturers for follwoing federal law`
`12:54.59`	`zoa`	`the other strange thing is the lawyers working on commission`
`12:55.21`	`trixter`	`for example one state sued a maker of cigarettes for marking their cigarettes as 'lights' in accordance with federal law (if they didnt mark them that way they could have been fined)`
`12:55.30`	`sivana`	`zoa: that could be good or bad`
`12:55.40`	`trixter`	`they lost a $10B judgement but won on appeal.. it got tossed out fairly quick on the appeal`
`12:56.02`	`trixter`	`in my case my lawyers are working on contingency, ie they get paid a percentage only if they win`
`12:56.09`	`trixter`	`so they have incentive to work rather than do nothing`
`12:56.20`	`sivana`	`ya.. here in CA.. the lawyers are paid no matter what`
`12:56.23`	`coppice`	`the way they force people into perjury by admitting to things they didn't do to avoid bigger charges is a total disgrace.`
`12:56.28`	`trixter`	`and because its a percentage they have incentive to get as much as possible`
`12:56.59`	`trixter`	`well if a federal agent committs perjury generally they are protected under 2 different immunity doctrines in this country`
`12:57.19`	`trixter`	`they cant be charged and it makes it really hard to sue if they lied and that resulted in the conviction`
`12:57.35`	`trixter`	`you have to show lies prior to the indictment, which I can show falsified evidence, perjury, etc..`
`12:57.50`	`trixter`	`had they not lied in the first place odds are no indictment would have ever been handed down`
`12:58.40`	`trixter`	`and its only because they lied at that stage that I can sue at all`
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`13:09.46`	`trixter`	`[O'Reilly Network Databases] How Many Voice Callers Fit on the Head of an Access Point? http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/etel/2005/12/13/how-many-voice-callers-fit-on-the-head-of-an-access-point.html`
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`13:14.06`	`Psy0rz`	`this is what i get on incomming calls`
`13:14.42`	`Psy0rz`	`the person thats calling is getting the message 'the person you're calling is not reacable right now'`
`13:14.49`	`zoa`	`very cool link trixter!!!`
`13:14.50`	`zoa`	`thnx`
`13:14.53`	`Psy0rz`	`from the pstn pbx (not from asterisk)`
`13:15.16`	`Psy0rz`	`after the timeout asterisk tries to 'ring' my phone, but then it's too late since the connection is alreadydropped`
`13:16.30`	`trixter`	`zoa: my bot grabbed that not that long ago, it seemed interesting :P`
`13:18.13`	`zoa`	`gimme the sources to your bot :p`
`13:18.19`	`coppice`	`who uses EFR for VoIP? :-\`
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`13:22.24`	`trixter`	`zoa: its just a perl script using Net::IRC`
`13:22.43`	`trixter`	`not terribly complex.. gets about 115 rss feeds and if anything is new messages it to various channels defined in a config file`
`13:23.15`	`docelm0`	`whadup whadup!`
`13:25.16`	`trixter`	`[O'Reilly Network Databases] VoIP is all Business at VON http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/etel/2005/12/13/report-from-von.html`
`13:25.34`	`Remosi`	`hmm`
`13:28.05`	`asteriskmonkey`	`good tidbit trixter`
`13:28.31`	`smirl`	`bill o'riely sucks cocks`
`13:28.52`	`smirl`	`VON paid him i'm sure`
`13:29.29`	`asteriskmonkey`	`dont people always pay o'riely and wrox`
`13:30.16`	`smirl`	`exactly... he wouldn't give anyone an endorsement unless they r padding his wallet`
`13:30.58`	`smirl`	`he'll endorse a child rapist if he's paid enough`
`13:31.47`	`trixter`	`I duynno I like oreilly they give me free books :)`
`13:31.58`	`trixter`	`or at least hte sacramento asterisk users group`
`13:32.11`	`smirl`	`yea, ok, he's not exactly the devil`
`13:32.13`	`trixter`	`digium and thevoipconnection.com gave us hardware too, so we have prizes for our contests!!`
`13:32.23`	`smirl`	`sweet`
`13:32.44`	`trixter`	`yeah got a tdm410 and 5 grandstream ATAs and 3 gxp2000s as prizes`
`13:32.54`	`smirl`	`anyone here ever configured asterisk for sip video? I read there is a patch to support the video pass through, but no instructions on how to apply the patch`
`13:33.25`	`zoa`	`trixter, prices for what ?`
`13:33.34`	`zoa`	`what contests ?`
`13:33.40`	`trixter`	`oreilly is also letting me into etel free (me and my associate) and giving me 2 other tickets for $200.. but I am doing a presentation there so I guess that is a little different :P`
`13:34.12`	`trixter`	`zoa: we dont know yet, most of the group has no knowledge other than the presentation of 'what is asterisk' that I did.. so they wont start until feburary when I can at least cover agis`
`13:34.47`	`trixter`	`but it will be some asterisk related thing.. a friend is looking into fastagi and seeing if he can write a windows handler so you can incorporate other things, interface to applications that are windows centric`
`13:35.07`	`trixter`	`that would be one entry, I am not sure what everyone will do.. anything not given as a prize goes into the group library though`
`13:35.14`	`smirl`	`does asterisk support TSAPI ?`
`13:35.32`	`smirl`	`<networkable version of TAPI>`
`13:35.42`	`smirl`	`if so, then alot of applications can be linked to it, windows apps`
`13:35.51`	`trixter`	`we have to discuss as a group what the rules for the contests are and what categories etc.. odds are everyone who enters will win something`
`13:36.01`	`trixter`	`small group 9 prizes ...`
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`13:36.25`	`coppice`	`smirl: people have talked about doing tsapi, but i don't know of anything that really happened`
`13:36.43`	`davidw`	`hey dudes - I am trying to write a call file to send something out on the ISDN... what the heck is the channel name?!`
`13:36.57`	`wasim`	`davidw: Zap/g1/`
`13:37.00`	`smirl`	`i don't use tsapi for anything anymore, but i used to`
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`13:37.52`	`davidw`	`wasim, mmmmm is that true for all ISDN cards? We have an Eicon`
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`13:38.16`	`trixter`	`well by allowing the agi to run on a windows box you have opened up a few other things, perhaps its legacy code perhaps its to interface with some custom CRM thing perhaps its a language that exists only on MS ... giving people the choice, even if they dont choose it I feel is a good thing.. I would rather have 10 choices and pick one than be given one choice only ...`
`13:38.18`	`smirl`	`i have what's probably a simple question. If i wanted to setup a carrier grade * server that provides IAX2 and SIP trunks to other asterisk users, how would i relay the caller id information from incomming calls?`
`13:38.19`	`wasim`	`davidw: thats true for all cards that use zapata in some form or the other, you might want try CAPI/balh`
`13:38.37`	`trixter`	`smirl: setcallerid ?`
`13:38.56`	`smirl`	`oh yea. i'm a retard`
`13:39.03`	`smirl`	`i've been up all night and it's 8:38 AM`
`13:39.08`	`smirl`	`forget i asked`
`13:39.29`	`davidw`	`wasim, google doesn't return anything for that string - what's balh mean?`
`13:39.41`	`wasim`	`blah`
`13:40.00`	`wasim`	`rotfl, btw ...`
`13:40.06`	`tzanger`	`16061 out of 2041320 polls were bad... 0.7% error rate, at least it is consistent`
`13:40.14`	`asteriskmonkey`	`does anyone know of a way to post client latency?`
`13:40.24`	`davidw`	`wasim, glad I could provide some entertainment`
`13:40.37`	`smirl`	`in my highschool history class a long time ago we were supposed to keep notes all semester. I kept an entire notebook full of 2 sides lined paper that just said Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah`
`13:40.41`	`davidw`	`Attempting call on CAPI/3488866859 ...`
`13:40.48`	`asteriskmonkey`	`does asterisk have a proc somewhere you can cat to get the sip/iax client latency?`
`13:40.49`	`coppice`	`tzanger: how does that compare with the bad people amongst other nationalities?`
`13:40.50`	`davidw`	`didn't find capi device for interface '3488866859'`
`13:41.06`	`tzanger`	`coppice: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA`
`13:41.24`	`tzanger`	`it'd be even funnier if I has written poles instead of polls :-)`
`13:41.40`	`smirl`	`asteriskmonkey; use ping ?`
`13:41.59`	`coppice`	`tzanger: I'm more of a verbal humourist`
`13:41.59`	`asteriskmonkey`	`smrili: ping dosnt use tos/qos`
`13:42.01`	`tzanger`	`coppice: the good news though is that over the weeked those polls were taken I didn't detect a single devicenet timeout`
`13:42.24`	`smirl`	`asteriskmonkey good point`
`13:42.36`	`tzanger`	`coppice: indeed. one of my favourite jokes is "There I was, like a total moron, standing at the wailing wall with my harpoon."`
`13:43.04`	`asteriskmonkey`	`im trying to get the latency info to write an app to let clients know that there latency has gone to crap so turn of downloads or check there network :D`
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`13:45.43`	`trixter`	`asteriskmonkey does asterisk have a proc somewhere you can cat to get the sip/iax client latency? -- qualify=yes in your conf`
`13:45.45`	`KriS83`	`Hi...`
`13:46.04`	`trixter`	`then if you do a <chan> show peers it will display their latency`
`13:46.08`	`asteriskmonkey`	`trixter: i was hoping for something like that i cant find anything :P`
`13:46.18`	`sivana`	`isn't the * qualify actually an invite response?`
`13:46.30`	`trixter`	`however some devices dont like it when you do that ...`
`13:46.31`	`smirl`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+video ;; so the patch is only required for H.263p ? I should be able to do video with regular H.263 ?`
`13:46.38`	`KriS83`	`Is there a way to have a user enter a custid, push him to a queue and when an agent answers the phone log how long the cust. was talking to the agent?`
`13:46.42`	`asteriskmonkey`	`does anyone know if asterisk have a proc somewhere you can cat to get the sip/iax client latency?`
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`13:46.53`	`trixter`	`KriS83: channel variables?`
`13:47.09`	`trixter`	`asteriskmonkey: you can use netcat and the asterisk mnanager interface :P`
`13:47.12`	`KriS83`	`trixter, sorry, could you be a bit more specific?`
`13:47.15`	`trixter`	`or asterisk -rx 'sip show peers'`
`13:47.53`	`asteriskmonkey`	`yes was looking for something more persistant like a process that i could query quite frequently`
`13:47.54`	`trixter`	`KriS83: channel variables are variables that are only good for that particular channel, when someone enters a number via their keypad that can be saved then when the agent picks up you need some way of sending that to your CRM software`
`13:48.01`	`KriS83`	`I have the user enters custid already setup.. basicly I need a way to find out how long this cust was talking to the agent`
`13:48.09`	`trixter`	`afaik there isnt an easy command that will do it by itself becuase how do you get that to the agent?`
`13:48.22`	`trixter`	`you could try to use a sendurl directive with iax for example`
`13:48.38`	`asteriskmonkey`	`trixter: i can write a php script to watch the file.. i just need a proc i can have it watch`
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`13:49.15`	`Mimmus`	`hi, I'm having problem connecting to Sangoma site to download current drivers`
`13:49.29`	`asteriskmonkey`	`ok call sangoma :) digium in here :D`
`13:49.37`	`trixter`	`asteriskmonkey: afaik there isnt a file, but if you do in php system("asterisk -rx 'sip show peers'") you can get the output of that and parse it`
`13:49.39`	`davidw`	`show channeltypes results should look like... what?`
`13:49.47`	`trixter`	`the only other thing that I can think of is using hte manager interface`
`13:49.55`	`Mimmus`	`asteriskmonkey: seriously? No!!!`
`13:49.58`	`davidw`	`specifically, 'Devicestate'... means ... what?`
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`13:50.30`	`asteriskmonkey`	`that sucks balls`
`13:50.32`	`trixter`	`mimmus: you may want to try in #openpbx`
`13:50.45`	`Katty`	`morning geeks.`
`13:50.50`	`KriS83`	`trixter, just a thought.. if the user enter ${custid} and then goes to the queue... and I have the Agentphones setup, like -> insert ${custid} + timestamp into a mysql table do you think that would work?`
`13:50.57`	`Mimmus`	`trixter: no no, I use Asterisk, I'd like only to download driver for a Sangoma E1 card`
`13:51.04`	`davidw`	`trixter, what's the difference?`
`13:51.17`	`KriS83`	`After inserting the data to mysql do a dial in 2nd prio`
`13:51.34`	`trixter`	`KriS83: that might as long as the agent can get the timestamp from the DB`
`13:52.09`	`trixter`	`mimmus: you may try to ask about sangnoma drivers in #openpbx ... I personally dont know where to get them and there are a lot of anti-sangnoma people in here`
`13:52.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mimmus : This link works fine for me. I know their website direct links don't seem to work. ftp://ftp.sangoma.com/linux/current_wanpipe`
`13:52.21`	`KriS83`	`then for the end timestamp I should be able to set a h with updating the timestamp again right?`
`13:52.22`	`trixter`	`davidw: whats the difference with what?`
`13:52.41`	`davidw`	`#openpbx vs #asterisk`
`13:52.46`	`trixter`	`a few letters`
`13:52.52`	`trixter`	`openpbx is an asterisk fork under the gpl`
`13:53.13`	`Mimmus`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'm having problem to change dir /linux/current_wanpipe`
`13:53.16`	`Mimmus`	`connection is reset`
`13:53.49`	`Mimmus`	`other dirs are ok`
`13:53.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I have just successfully downloaded the latest stable driver ftp://ftp.sangoma.com/linux/current_wanpipe/wanpipe-2.3.2-6.tgz`
`13:53.58`	`davidw`	`oh yeah! here we go`
`13:54.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`So your FTP problems have nothing to do with Sangoma and everything to do with your connection to them.`
`13:54.29`	`davidw`	`these dipshits turned on the heaters finally`
`13:54.33`	`Mimmus`	`problem with my antivirus/proxy/firewall?`
`13:55.01`	`trixter`	`quite likely`
`13:55.04`	`KriS83`	`one more thing... I'd need a linux geek... when I do a exten => 222,1,System(mail -s "test" kris@domain.tld). The Mail hangs...`
`13:55.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mimmus : Quite possible. Maybe your FTP mode (passive/active" try another client.`
`13:55.19`	`KriS83`	`I'd like to just send an email with a certain Topic... any ideas?`
`13:55.30`	`Mimmus`	`[TK]D-Fender: I tried also from a completely different host without proxy/fw...`
`13:55.35`	`iCEBrkr`	`oh holyhell.`
`13:55.38`	`trixter`	`KriS83: how do you propose to set the body and all of that email?`
`13:55.41`	`iCEBrkr`	`I forgot I got a LUG meeting tonight`
`13:55.49`	`trixter`	`iCEBrkr: where at?`
`13:55.52`	`KriS83`	`trixter, don't want a body`
`13:56.01`	`trixter`	`how does mail know that you are done?`
`13:56.02`	`KriS83`	`only an empty email with a subject`
`13:56.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`trixter: St. Petersburg, FL`
`13:56.17`	`iCEBrkr`	`trixter: We host the meeting here at our offices.`
`13:56.19`	`KriS83`	`hmmm`
`13:56.21`	`zoa`	`any lgpl experts here ?`
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`13:56.36`	`Enderson`	`hello`
`13:56.38`	`KriS83`	`trixter, k, any ideas of doing it right then?`
`13:56.41`	`trixter`	`iCEBrkr: do you know of any near ocala?`
`13:56.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`Poor guys were looking for a place to have meetings, since I'm a linux dork, I ask my boss if they'd be allowed to hang here.`
`13:57.06`	`trixter`	`KriS83: write a script that does the mail and call that.. if the script runs fine outside asterisk it should work fine being called from it`
`13:57.08`	`Enderson`	`I'm just starting with asterisk, maybe you cold help me`
`13:57.14`	`iCEBrkr`	`trixter: Not that I'm aware of. I'm still fairly new to the state.`
`13:57.18`	`KriS83`	`k`
`13:57.19`	`trixter`	`iCEBrkr: that isnt a good thing`
`13:57.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mimmus : Hold on, I'll host it on HTTP for you.`
`13:57.23`	`wasim`	`no but i warm you to voip-info.org`
`13:57.24`	`iCEBrkr`	`haha`
`13:57.48`	`iCEBrkr`	`Enderson: Yea, http://www.voip-info.org is a good place to start`
`13:57.55`	`Enderson`	`I already did a PC to Phone call, using my SIP account at asterisk, and it called trough the company PBX`
`13:58.16`	`Enderson`	`I just can't make asterisk answer the call, when I dial it's PBC number`
`13:58.21`	`zoa`	`~documentation`
`13:58.24`	`jbot`	`i heard documentation is not the issue for why the new stuff isn't completed`
`13:58.27`	`davidw`	`No such application 'Playback(hello-world)`
`13:58.30`	`davidw`	`what's up with that?`
`13:58.31`	`zoa`	`~docs`
`13:58.33`	`jbot`	`docs is, like, probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html`
`13:58.33`	`Enderson`	`I can even see it ringing at ztmonitor 1 -v`
`13:58.34`	`davidw`	`this is pretty cool`
`13:58.38`	`MassiveBlue`	`anybody here, who knows how to use loadtest.tcl ?`
`13:58.44`	`trixter`	`zoa is droping dox!`
`13:59.07`	`iCEBrkr`	`ha`
`13:59.22`	`Mimmus`	`[TK]D-Fender: thanks, great people on this channel`
`13:59.35`	`iCEBrkr`	`:D`
`13:59.48`	`Remosi`	`hmm`
`13:59.51`	`trixter`	`haha I just looked for one in gainesville and they said that the next meeting is in 1997`
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`13:59.59`	`Remosi`	`yay! my channel is loading and stuff`
`14:00.00`	`Mimmus`	`iCEBrkr: or are they all kind robots?`
`14:00.13`	`Remosi`	`now if I can get it to just connect to google talk tonight I'll be happy`
`14:00.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mimmus : http://www.belangerupt.com/wanpipe-2.3.2-6.tgz`
`14:00.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`Mimmus: We're all bots :P`
`14:01.14`	`iCEBrkr`	`[TK]D-Fender: I may have a PRI to play with today! No more of this bullshit CAS stuff`
`14:01.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : about &^%@#$ time!`
`14:01.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`You'll love it once its running :)`
`14:01.37`	`iCEBrkr`	`[TK]D-Fender: :)`
`14:02.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`[TK]D-Fender: Thing is, our old system used CAS (AMI-FS) signalling ( all 24 channels ). As far as I know, Digium's cards won't do CAS.`
`14:02.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`Which was extra motovation to get the Sangoma card.`
`14:02.38`	`davidw`	`can I create a Context in a call file?`
`14:02.47`	`iCEBrkr`	`But I don't know jack about our current line provisioning, so I've been guessing`
`14:02.54`	`iCEBrkr`	`davidw: created a context??`
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`14:03.38`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: paws off. kthx.`
`14:03.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`davidw: You can have the callfile dial through a set context`
`14:03.50`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: Don't flatter yourself.`
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`14:04.09`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: flatter myself?`
`14:04.20`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: that does not parse.`
`14:04.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: Obviously.`
`14:04.41`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: k`
`14:05.24`	`Mimmus`	`[TK]D-Fender: ok, downladed (veeeery sloooow, from Italy), thank you very much`
`14:05.37`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: You've never had anyone poke you while you're stretching?? Blows the whole stretch :(`
`14:05.38`	`davidw`	`italy has reasonable net speeds...`
`14:05.46`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: no.`
`14:05.49`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: i don't like people touching me.`
`14:05.51`	`davidw`	`if you have dsl a least`
`14:05.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: Apparently you have nicer friends than I do.`
`14:06.03`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: indeed.`
`14:06.10`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: they're all respectable females.`
`14:06.16`	`Mimmus`	`davidw: I have a leased E1 line (2 Mbps)`
`14:06.32`	`davidw`	`that's not bad`
`14:06.35`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: I know of no such thing.. Pffft, respectable females. HAHAHA that's a good one`
`14:06.45`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: i'm a respectable female.`
`14:07.20`	`davidw`	`iCEBrkr, mmmm so I can't just create a context in the call file?`
`14:07.21`	`iCEBrkr`	`They're all gold dig'n and pretencious. Errm, Chicks dig jerks, Mmmmmmk?`
`14:07.23`	`Mimmus`	`thank you all, bye for now`
`14:07.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`davidw: Not sure why you'd wanna do that.. But nope, doesn't work that way`
`14:07.46`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: you make me sick.`
`14:07.47`	`trixter`	`Katty iCEBrkr: i don't like people touching me. -- this is only irc no one can touch you here`
`14:07.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: ^5`
`14:08.08`	`iCEBrkr`	`+s`
`14:08.11`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: kthx.`
`14:08.19`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: i don't need to be a 'gold digger'`
`14:08.23`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: i make enough ;)`
`14:08.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: Kudos`
`14:08.38`	`trixter`	`katty: can I be your gold digger then?`
`14:08.43`	`Katty`	`trixter: haha.`
`14:08.44`	`Katty`	`trixter: no.`
`14:08.45`	`trixter`	`I can never make enough no matter how much I have`
`14:08.47`	`MassiveBlue`	`anybody here, who knows how to use loadtest.tcl ?`
`14:08.49`	`davidw`	`iCEBrkr, I want it to dial a number and play a file`
`14:08.53`	`davidw`	`MassiveBlue, what doesn't work?`
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`14:09.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`trixter: We're in the right state man. There's gotta be some sugah momma's around`
`14:09.14`	`trixter`	`davidw: you make the context in extensions.conf or whatever and then call that from the call file`
`14:09.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`davidw: That's why you send it to a context.`
`14:09.17`	`trixter`	`its not that hard`
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`14:09.31`	`trixter`	`iCEBrkr: what state is that? I dont think we are in the same state`
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`14:09.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`trixter: Umm, I thought you were in FL`
`14:09.50`	`davidw`	`trixter, I immagine it isn't... I'm trying to get up to speed ASAP - the guy who wsa supposed to do this stuff... basically fruited around for a month`
`14:09.51`	`trixter`	`no I was asking for a friend I am in california`
`14:09.54`	`MassiveBlue`	`i think that i have to do some entries in extensions.conf sip.conf, ... but i can't find a doc for it`
`14:09.55`	`iCEBrkr`	`trixter: Ahhhhhh`
`14:10.05`	`davidw`	`it's way too early in California`
`14:10.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`davidw: Set the Context: line in the call file.`
`14:10.27`	`trixter`	`davidw: I am still up from yesterday`
`14:10.27`	`davidw`	`iCEBrkr, yeah, I got that much from my book... I was just looking at the txfax app and the posted example...`
`14:10.36`	`davidw`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/app_rxfax+and+app_txfax`
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`14:10.47`	`iCEBrkr`	`oh. faxing.`
`14:11.02`	`davidw`	`it all just seemed easier if I could put all the stuff in the file, because it's easy to dynamically create a file...`
`14:11.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`:-*`
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`14:11.14`	`bsdfreak`	`heh`
`14:11.26`	`iCEBrkr`	`davidw: ehhh, I don't think so`
`14:11.30`	`davidw`	`iCEBrkr, well, faxing is the Next Step. I want to get a handle on call files first`
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`14:11.46`	`davidw`	`jeez...it's greate to have a heated office ...`
`14:11.57`	`davidw`	`I'm almost warm enough to take off my parka`
`14:12.10`	`trixter`	`I prefer data center temperatures personally`
`14:12.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`Ahhhh, it's a balmy 55 degrees here.`
`14:12.40`	`davidw`	`it was about 5 degrees in here`
`14:12.47`	`davidw`	`iCEBrkr, that's really hot`
`14:12.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`davidw: So why don't you setup an [outboundcall] context and have it play the file?`
`14:13.03`	`davidw`	`iCEBrkr, I guess I'll try that...`
`14:13.20`	`davidw`	`that stuff goes in extensions.conf ?`
`14:13.23`	`iCEBrkr`	`I'm done with snow and cold.`
`14:13.28`	`iCEBrkr`	`davidw: yup yup`
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`14:13.48`	`asteriskmonkey`	`i need to get a hold of kram`
`14:13.54`	`iCEBrkr`	`Snow is fun to play in, but when you gotta get up at the ass-crack of dawn to be at work on time. Forget it`
`14:14.13`	`gevious`	`Anyone got gnudialer puff17 working?`
`14:14.14`	`docelm0`	`Say anyone know about windows licensing?`
`14:14.20`	`docelm0`	`Well licensing server?`
`14:14.22`	`Katty`	`yes.`
`14:14.26`	`gevious`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:14.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`docelm0: hey, I know it's expenstive`
`14:14.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`-t`
`14:14.48`	`Katty`	`docelm0: let me guess, you can't view your licenses? ;)`
`14:14.57`	`docelm0`	`Well I have site licenses.. But I need to setup a Windows Licensing Server for my RDP`
`14:14.59`	`gevious`	`I can't seem to trace what is throwing the exception?`
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`14:16.14`	`heka`	`anybody can help me with a SER issue?`
`14:16.37`	`Katty`	`docelm0: never set one up.`
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`14:16.55`	`tengulre`	`HI,ALL , I M COMING! :->D`
`14:17.05`	`Katty`	`tengulre: shh.`
`14:17.10`	`Katty`	`tengulre: it's before 8:30am.`
`14:17.12`	`gevious`	`Anybody know where I can go for GNUdialer help?`
`14:17.16`	`davidw`	`can this thing hot-reload its config?`
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`14:17.23`	`Seba_soy`	`hello all...`
`14:17.28`	`Seba_soy`	`how are you?`
`14:17.32`	`tengulre`	`Katty: here is 22:15PM`
`14:17.32`	`docelm0`	`And no I cant view my licenses..`
`14:17.34`	`tengulre`	`:)`
`14:17.34`	`Katty`	`tired and grumpy.`
`14:17.53`	`tengulre`	`anybody use dialogic card here?`
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`14:18.38`	`iCEBrkr`	`tengulre: It won't work with Asterisk :)`
`14:19.16`	`trixter`	`anyway I can get 2 tickets to etel for $200 each if anyone wants a discount off the $1800 price.. http://conferences.oreilly.com/etel`
`14:19.27`	`Katty`	`newp, i'm not going.`
`14:20.04`	`tengulre`	`iCEBrkr: but it can be found ! http://www.asterisk.org/hardware!`
`14:20.20`	`__a`	`guys, sometimes a Dial would jump out of context with spawn extension ... exited non-zero error message`
`14:20.30`	`__a`	`any clue how to get a dial status?`
`14:20.34`	`trixter`	`gevious Anybody know where I can go for GNUdialer help? -- dont they have #gnudialer?`
`14:20.35`	`__a`	`or where does it end up if call fails?`
`14:20.41`	`iCEBrkr`	`tengulre: good luck, that's all I can tell ya.`
`14:20.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`__a : try ${DIALSTATUS}`
`14:21.02`	`iCEBrkr`	`tengulre: There's commerical companies that can't even talk to a dialogic card correctly.`
`14:21.06`	`gevious`	`#gnudialer doesn't seem to have anyone in it`
`14:21.19`	`__a`	`[TK]D-Fender: the problem is it won't report dialstatus`
`14:21.22`	`tengulre`	`Oh!!`
`14:21.30`	`Katty`	`!!11oneone`
`14:21.32`	`__a`	`[TK]D-Fender: I mean it would jump out of context.`
`14:21.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`tengulre: Every company I've worked for that used Dialogic cards for anything-- We've had issues. Continually replacing them and the software always screwed up which meant rebooting the server repeatedly.`
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`14:22.12`	`trixter`	`when I was a kid living in new jersey I used to browse the dumpsters outside dialogic`
`14:22.17`	`tengulre`	`iCEBrkr: oh! I see.`
`14:22.20`	`trixter`	`never found anything highly useful`
`14:22.25`	`kuku5`	`Is there any way to check if a cisco 7940g phones has Call forwarding on ?`
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`14:22.48`	`iCEBrkr`	`Yay! Dumpster diving`
`14:22.54`	`tengulre`	`iCEBrkr: which card are u use?`
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`14:23.30`	`iCEBrkr`	`tengulre: I have a Digium TE110P and a Sangoma A104d`
`14:24.38`	`tengulre`	`iCEBrkr: Sangoma? It have drivers for asterisk??`
`14:24.51`	`iCEBrkr`	`tengulre: For sure.`
`14:25.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tengulre : It uses its own front-end to Zaptel. * is non the wiser about what its talking to.`
`14:25.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And works like a charm`
`14:25.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`... except with freakish CAS ;)`
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`14:25.36`	`iCEBrkr`	`lol`
`14:26.09`	`Seba_soy`	`who can help me with an issue about IRW MISSES on DIGIUM CARD?`
`14:26.15`	`Seba_soy`	`I am lost with this.. :(`
`14:26.21`	`tengulre`	`what kind of cards can supported Zaptel driver?`
`14:26.42`	`zoa`	`seba_soy`
`14:26.47`	`Seba_soy`	`hello zoa`
`14:26.48`	`zoa`	`did you read my tutorial ?`
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`14:26.55`	`Seba_soy`	`where is it?`
`14:26.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tengulre : Sangoma & Digium digital cards`
`14:27.09`	`zoa`	`http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/pci_irq_apic_tdm_ticks_te410p_te405p_noise.html`
`14:27.22`	`Seba_soy`	`let me take a look`
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`14:27.32`	`tengulre`	`[TK]D-Fender: Oh! Thanks a lot!`
`14:27.33`	`Seba_soy`	`thanks zoa`
`14:27.41`	`tengulre`	`iCEBrkr: thanks !`
`14:28.04`	`Mimmus`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'm still here... during Setup of Sangoma driver, do I need to exclude some protocol?`
`14:28.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Just take standard TDMV.`
`14:28.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mimmus :^^^`
`14:29.00`	`tengulre`	`anybody is programmer??`
`14:29.18`	`trixter`	`I dont know about anybody but I am sure somebody is`
`14:29.27`	`Mimmus`	`[TK]D-Fender: Compilation Mode: 1-Default, 2-TDMV, 3-Custom`
`14:29.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`#2`
`14:29.37`	`Mimmus`	`[TK]D-Fender: Custom?`
`14:29.37`	`Katty`	`tengulre: there's tons of programmers in here.`
`14:29.42`	`Mimmus`	`ok`
`14:30.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty : mew?`
`14:30.07`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: mewmew.`
`14:30.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`purrs`
`14:30.42`	`tengulre`	`Cool! :-D`
`14:30.59`	`tengulre`	`I m a beginner !`
`14:31.36`	`tengulre`	`I just know the PBX mean yesterday! :)`
`14:31.55`	`Mimmus`	`[TK]D-Fender: compiled successfully, thanks again. Now I follow README.asterisk...`
`14:31.56`	`iDunno`	`programmers? what? where! I thought that this was for sysadmins ;)`
`14:32.22`	`tengulre`	`my boss tell me : ' you have to building a voip platform for me, or ... out!! '! :(`
`14:32.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mimmus : Yes, don't forget that you have to compile Zaptel first, THEN Wanpipe, THEN RE-COMPILE Zaptel.`
`14:33.10`	`trixter`	`gotta love cross dependancies`
`14:33.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`You know how many people come in here with a fire under their butt from their bosses demanding they come up with a PBX solution??`
`14:33.19`	`tengulre`	`I know have many CTI cards in china, but they can't support Linux or Unix!`
`14:33.36`	`Mimmus`	`[TK]D-Fender: cd /usr/src/zaptel ; make. OK?`
`14:33.47`	`tengulre`	`only for windows, :(`
`14:33.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`make clean ; make install`
`14:34.06`	`trixter`	`I would replace the ; with && incase his path doesnt match he wont try to make without being able to goto the correct dir :P`
`14:34.18`	`trixter`	`you can specifify multiple targets to make`
`14:34.20`	`trixter`	`make clean install`
`14:34.33`	`trixter`	`it will do them in order and if something breaks it wont try to do the next command`
`14:34.37`	`Mimmus`	`[TK]D-Fender: ok, then a good reboot to ensure that all drivers are correctly loaded at startup`
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`14:35.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mimmus : not a bad idea. Make sure you have WANROUTER start LONG before anything else.`
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`14:35.48`	`trixter`	`wanpipe still sounds more like something you smoke instead of something you load`
`14:36.04`	`MattB2`	`hi all.. little emergency help pls! just setting up our new pri - TE110P with 8 channels. How do I force the outgoing CallerID?`
`14:36.19`	`Katty`	`help plskthxbi!`
`14:36.23`	`trixter`	`does your provider let you set caller id?`
`14:36.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`trixter: Haha! We use this network appliance called a 'Fatpipe'`
`14:36.38`	`iDunno`	`SetCallerID before dialling the Zap group.`
`14:36.49`	`trixter`	`iCEBrkr: always good to smoke a fatpipe :P`
`14:36.59`	`iCEBrkr`	`hehe`
`14:36.59`	`trixter`	`I think he wants zapata.conf as the answer`
`14:37.06`	`Katty`	`freaks.`
`14:37.14`	`MattB2`	`iDunno: thanks. does an asterisk reload pick that up? or do I have to restart?`
`14:37.16`	`trixter`	`but not all providers let you set caller id so before getting into that he needs to know that they do`
`14:37.17`	`iDunno`	`nah - do it in extensions.conf.`
`14:37.18`	`iCEBrkr`	`Katty: Look who's talk'n`
`14:37.23`	`iDunno`	`extensions reload`
`14:37.28`	`iDunno`	`would pick it up.`
`14:37.35`	`mrtwister`	`question, what shall i do to play facility music to B-channel without answering? i have an E1 zna sangoma`
`14:38.01`	`mrtwister`	`now i getting silence//`
`14:38.03`	`tengulre`	`It' time to sleeping! anyone : good night!!!`
`14:38.28`	`MassiveBlue`	`good night`
`14:38.47`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: ;)`
`14:39.31`	`MattB2`	`hmm pri debug still sending out my SIP phone callerid`
`14:39.41`	`MattB2`	`it may not be a problem - just that I can't make outgoing calls on the PRI`
`14:39.44`	`MattB2`	`wondering if that was the reason`
`14:39.58`	`iDunno`	`could be`
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`14:40.25`	`docelm0`	`ok licensing issues are gone! WOO HOO!`
`14:40.35`	`Katty`	`docelm0: yay`
`14:40.50`	`docelm0`	`Is good to have open site license..`
`14:41.14`	`Katty`	`i suppose.`
`14:41.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MattB2 : Pastebin your extensions.conf`
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`14:46.23`	`MattB2`	`next pri question - I can make national (xxx-xxx xxxx) calls but local (xxx xxxx) fails with invalid number format`
`14:47.01`	`MattB2`	`our telco says it's because I'm not telling the pri to use local number format`
`14:47.05`	`MattB2`	`how on earth do I do that in ast?`
`14:48.44`	`brad_mssw`	`so, is it just me or is AEL a little funky ??`
`14:49.00`	`Seba_soy`	`zoa`
`14:49.03`	`Seba_soy`	`you here?`
`14:49.06`	`Psy0rz`	`Dec 19 15:48:11 VERBOSE[8601]: -- Goto (from-pstn,226413728,0)`
`14:49.06`	`Psy0rz`	`Dec 19 15:48:21 VERBOSE[8601]: -- Timeout on CAPI/ISDN1/226413728-0`
`14:49.06`	`Psy0rz`	`Dec 19 15:48:21 VERBOSE[8601]: == CDR updated on CAPI/ISDN1/226413728-0`
`14:49.15`	`Psy0rz`	`does this mean i have a database/cdr problem?`
`14:49.22`	`Psy0rz`	`look at that 10 second delay`
`14:49.29`	`Psy0rz`	`i'm trying to find out what causes it`
`14:49.33`	`brad_mssw`	`in AEL, why does, MYEXTEN=${EXTEN:3}; somehow equal 0, if EXTEN is *72202# ...`
`14:49.57`	`brad_mssw`	`but MYEXTEN="${EXTEN:3}"; appears to somewhat work, but the variable stores the quotes ??`
`14:49.58`	`sivana`	`doing a playback or background on a GSM file to the PRI... would that require transcoding?`
`14:50.06`	`Seba_soy`	`zoa?`
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`14:52.48`	`Psy0rz`	`how to disable CDR completely?`
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`14:54.29`	`docelm0`	`Psy0rz, why would you wanna do that?`
`14:54.43`	`docelm0`	`Anyone know of a good Radius Server that is Mysql compatible?`
`14:54.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Symlink the CDR-CSV to /dev/null :D`
`14:55.09`	`bsdfreak`	`heh`
`14:55.20`	`docelm0`	`That would be bad..`
`14:56.01`	`mutilator`	`docelm0: freeradius`
`14:56.10`	`docelm0`	`Thats what I was thinking..`
`14:56.13`	`docelm0`	`thanks!`
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`14:57.13`	`Psy0rz`	`docelm0 to debug my problem. i suspect there is sometimeout while updating the cdr database`
`14:57.29`	`Seba_soy`	`I cant solve my IRQ MISSES problem`
`14:57.30`	`Psy0rz`	`it hangs for 10 seconds, and in that time the incomming call is already dropped`
`14:58.31`	`MattB2`	`still can't get outgoing callerid working opn the pri, I set calelrid above the PRI channels but it's showing up as my SIP extensions when I dial out. any other ideas?`
`14:58.42`	`JASON99`	`Hello.. When people call our asterisk IVR and dial digits normally works fine.. but we have some people that it won't recongnize their tones.`
`14:59.04`	`JASON99`	`has anyone ever seen that?`
`14:59.15`	`trixter`	`voip or pstn?`
`14:59.19`	`JASON99`	`PSTN`
`14:59.26`	`JASON99`	`Its a PRI`
`15:00.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MattB2 : Pastebin your extensions.conf`
`15:01.15`	`MattB2`	`[TK]D-Fender: is there anything particular you're looking for? I've got user/pwds inside it, and I'm lazy to remove them ;)`
`15:01.24`	`MattB2`	`I'm not setting any outgoing callerid in extensions.conf`
`15:01.33`	`MattB2`	`the dial cmd is simply`
`15:01.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I want to see every context that dials out on the PRI.`
`15:01.52`	`MattB2`	`exten => _9[2-9].,2,Dial(${TRUNK}/423${EXTEN:1},60,r)`
`15:02.00`	`MattB2`	`that's the one and only place that dials out`
`15:02.03`	`MattB2`	`via pri`
`15:02.10`	`Mimmus`	`[TK]D-Fender: how can I check if all is OK?`
`15:02.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`show the whole section, not just line 2`
`15:02.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mimmus : try it? :)`
`15:02.50`	`MattB2`	`http://pastebin.ca/34187`
`15:03.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MattB2 : you on 1.2.x?`
`15:03.52`	`MattB2`	`1.2.1`
`15:04.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And don't allow standard dial-outs? (otehr are code, LD, etc?`
`15:04.42`	`docelm0`	`Psy0rz, yes.. there is a known bug with cdr_addon_mysql.so if the MySQL server cant be contacted..`
`15:04.50`	`Mimmus`	`[TK]D-Fender: well, it's a good suggestion! Anyway, I see modules loaded and interrupts going on...`
`15:04.56`	`MattB2`	`PRi is only used for local outgoing. long distance & intl are VoIP`
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`15:05.08`	`docelm0`	`However to stop MySQL loggining.. Just delete or remove cdr_addon_mysql.so and reload asterisk`
`15:05.18`	`Psy0rz`	`docelm0 thx! how to workaround/solve it. however, i did unload cdr_addon_mysql and still have the problem`
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`15:05.40`	`Psy0rz`	`ah ok`
`15:05.48`	`Psy0rz`	`but unloading should do it too?`
`15:06.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MattB2 : http://pastebin.ca/34188`
`15:06.55`	`Psy0rz`	`ok docelm0 i also tried removing, but still:`
`15:07.05`	`Psy0rz`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:07.05`	`Psy0rz`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:07.17`	`Psy0rz`	`what else can i try?`
`15:07.32`	`Psy0rz`	`i think it's time to strace :)`
`15:07.33`	`docelm0`	`Dude.. Thats not CDR.. That CAPI issues..`
`15:08.18`	`Psy0rz`	`ah`
`15:08.27`	`Psy0rz`	`what kind of?`
`15:08.35`	`Psy0rz`	`i already tried capi debug on`
`15:08.42`	`Psy0rz`	`but nothing happens between that goto and timeout`
`15:08.55`	`docelm0`	`I Dont know.. But from what I can see its a capi issue. I dont do CAPI I use ZAP/SIP/H323`
`15:08.55`	`Psy0rz`	`i can make calls to the outside`
`15:08.59`	`docelm0`	`and some IAX`
`15:09.03`	`Psy0rz`	`ah`
`15:09.11`	`Psy0rz`	`i use iax sip and zap too`
`15:09.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Psy0rz : What is priority "0" doing in that goto?`
`15:09.15`	`Psy0rz`	`but also 2 isdn cards`
`15:09.26`	`Psy0rz`	`[TK]D-Fender its a native AMP goto, i don't know`
`15:09.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`EW`
`15:09.31`	`Enderson`	`Hey, I can do dioalout call, from SIP to Phone, but my * don't answer my call`
`15:09.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NVM :)`
`15:09.37`	`Psy0rz`	`hehe ok`
`15:09.39`	`MattB2`	`[TK]D-Fender: genius, it works! thanks so much.`
`15:09.41`	`docelm0`	`Your USING AMP?!?!?! THERE's YOUR PROBLEM!`
`15:09.44`	`Enderson`	`I can see it ringing on ztmonitor`
`15:09.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MattB2 : YWC`
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`15:09.52`	`Enderson`	`how can I debug more ?`
`15:09.57`	`Alric`	`Does realtime still have issues with non-source installed unixODBC?`
`15:10.19`	`Psy0rz`	`lol strace -f gives a infinite number of crap :D`
`15:10.29`	`Psy0rz`	`does amp suck THAT much?`
`15:10.37`	`docelm0`	`No it sucks even more`
`15:10.42`	`Psy0rz`	`hmm`
`15:10.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`AMP is the bastard child of a lazy coder :D`
`15:10.55`	`Psy0rz`	`well i'm not that lazy actually`
`15:10.58`	`davidw`	`what's the deal with the asterisk config language?`
`15:11.00`	`Psy0rz`	`but it's for a custommer`
`15:11.01`	`docelm0`	`Basically using amp makes you have bad habits`
`15:11.02`	`Psy0rz`	`who wants amp`
`15:11.08`	`Psy0rz`	`i know`
`15:11.14`	`docelm0`	`I just custom code one for each client..`
`15:11.16`	`Psy0rz`	`i already wrote some patches for its uglyness`
`15:11.30`	`Psy0rz`	`that probably would be better`
`15:11.36`	`Psy0rz`	`but this one just wants amp`
`15:11.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`AMP controls your universe, you'll never debug it (or want to), and prevents you from reaping the benifit of *'s power. You want a "Toaster" PBX, then buy an Avaya or BCM :)`
`15:12.14`	`Psy0rz`	`so what should i put in the incomming contect to just ring IAX2 extention 14?`
`15:12.19`	`Psy0rz`	`to test it`
`15:12.23`	`Psy0rz`	`context`
`15:13.13`	`Psy0rz`	`[from-pstn]`
`15:13.13`	`Psy0rz`	`exten => Dial("IAX2/14")`
`15:13.19`	`Psy0rz`	`will that be sufficient?`
`15:13.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Psy0rz : VERY wrong...`
`15:13.31`	`Psy0rz`	`lol`
`15:13.42`	`Psy0rz`	`i could just rtfm`
`15:13.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`No extension or priority in there.`
`15:13.53`	`Psy0rz`	`oh`
`15:14.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And teh quotes, no timeout, NOTHING.`
`15:14.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`EEK`
`15:14.17`	`Psy0rz`	`ok`
`15:14.18`	`Psy0rz`	`lemme try again`
`15:14.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:D`
`15:14.21`	`Psy0rz`	`hold on :)`
`15:14.27`	`Psy0rz`	`i'll make it up to you ;)`
`15:14.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`This time.... without the "oops" :)`
`15:14.40`	`file[laptop]`	`fear my mumblings of doom`
`15:15.34`	`Psy0rz`	`exten => s,1,Dial(IAX2/14)`
`15:15.36`	`Psy0rz`	`what about that`
`15:16.00`	`Psy0rz`	`or do i need to do the Answer thingy first?`
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`15:16.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`It'd be nice...`
`15:16.22`	`generalhan`	`whats going on everyone ! ? !`
`15:16.30`	`Psy0rz`	`so it would ring instantly right?`
`15:16.38`	`Psy0rz`	`on an incomming call on that context`
`15:16.42`	`davidw`	`ciao`
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`15:17.03`	`file[laptop]`	`'s' is only used when the extension dialed is not known, if it's known it'll go to that extension... and not 's'`
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`15:18.31`	`generalhan`	`I have a quick question ... I monitor all my calls and save the calls under ${CALLERIDNUM} which has been working for a long time, but now they are being saved as "user" if i use ${CALLERID} instead i can get the real number, but then it saves in "555-555-5555" <user>" format, is there a way i can use a Cut or something to have it remove the < > and leave the phone number ?`
`15:19.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`User the new function CALLERID(num)`
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`15:19.36`	`generalhan`	`is that only in the new release ?`
`15:19.48`	`generalhan`	`1.2`
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`15:20.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`yup`
`15:21.23`	`generalhan`	`crap`
`15:21.41`	`generalhan`	`i cant upgrade until this weekend cause i have 30 users on at any given time`
`15:21.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Or you could do a 2-stage cut. ${CALLERIDNUM:1}, then ${cALLERID:-1}`
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`15:22.38`	`docelm0`	`Wow.. This is why AMP is bad.. is screw's everyone up`
`15:22.55`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: what does the " : " do ? like i have ${CALLERIDNUM} what will the ":1" leave me with ?`
`15:23.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:1 will trim the leading <, and the -1 will trim the trailing one`
`15:23.32`	`generalhan`	`and everything in betwee?`
`15:24.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`gets left behind. You'll need to use a temp var to hold the result`
`15:25.13`	`bsdfreak`	`heh`
`15:25.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`so - Set(vmyvar=${CALLERIDNUM:1})`
`15:25.34`	`generalhan`	`so something like SetVar(MYCALLID=${CALLERIDNUM:1}`
`15:25.39`	`generalhan`	`hahaha`
`15:25.43`	`generalhan`	`great minds ....`
`15:25.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Set(vmyvar=${vmyvar:-11})`
`15:26.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`You should upgrade to 1.2.....`
`15:26.21`	`generalhan`	`i know i really want to i just cant until i have an empty system`
`15:26.45`	`iCEBrkr`	`Nap time`
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`15:28.07`	`Psy0rz`	`file[laptop] so when i just have this:`
`15:28.08`	`Psy0rz`	`[from-pstn]`
`15:28.08`	`Psy0rz`	`exten => s,1,Dial(IAX2/14)`
`15:28.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`This voicemail system we have here at work is all jacked up`
`15:28.18`	`Psy0rz`	`it should always accept incomming capi calls?`
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`15:28.24`	`iCEBrkr`	`you'd think it'd use like 1 for new messages and confirmation.. Nope. .It uses 7`
`15:28.30`	`file[laptop]`	`Psy0rz: I don't know enough of your setup to say yes or no, it depends`
`15:28.47`	`Psy0rz`	`well, iax nr 14 is working fine`
`15:28.54`	`Psy0rz`	`capi's default context is from-pstn`
`15:29.44`	`file[laptop]`	`you know, you could just try and see`
`15:31.05`	`Psy0rz`	`i did offcourse`
`15:31.05`	`Psy0rz`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:31.05`	`Psy0rz`	`Dec 19 16:32:48 ERROR[8910]: ISDN1: did not find exten for '226413728', ignoring call.`
`15:31.12`	`file[laptop]`	`okay`
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`15:31.24`	`file[laptop]`	`exten => 226413728,1,Dial(IAX2/14)`
`15:31.35`	`file[laptop]`	`chan_capi knows the extension... so 's' wouldn't work`
`15:31.41`	`Psy0rz`	`oooh`
`15:31.41`	`Psy0rz`	`ok`
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`15:31.51`	`Seldon1975`	`does anyone have time to check this out for me? I came in this morning and all of my trunks were congested with unterminated voicemail operations as shown in http://pastebin.com/470201, my extensions.conf is: http://pastebin.com/470190. can anyone see what in my dialplan would allow this to happen?`
`15:31.54`	`Psy0rz`	`isn't there some way around?`
`15:31.58`	`Psy0rz`	`so it always works?`
`15:32.06`	`file[laptop]`	`you can make it pattern match anything...`
`15:32.23`	`file[laptop]`	`exten => _XXXXXXXXX,1,Dial(IAX2/14)`
`15:33.46`	`Psy0rz`	`ok that works`
`15:33.53`	`Psy0rz`	`so it's definatly a AMP problem`
`15:34.17`	`Psy0rz`	`i had a lot of hardware/driver issues before with capi and also with the legacy isdn4linux stuff`
`15:34.23`	`Psy0rz`	`so i was afraid i would be that`
`15:34.32`	`Psy0rz`	`now it's just fixing amp :)`
`15:35.02`	`Seba_soy`	`who can HELP ME with an IRQ MISSESS problem on a digium t110 card.`
`15:35.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Fxing AMP? You mean spending lots of time on a patch that gets over-written as soon as you do a "commit" :/`
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`15:38.33`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: i tried that :1 stuff and it didnt quite work out for me ... i ended up with this in my console ...." "MYCALLERID=ser") in new stack"`
`15:38.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`Current Alarms: Blue Alarm/Red Alarm`
`15:38.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`:(`
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`15:39.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`generalhan : Pastebin the call and the context.`
`15:40.04`	`generalhan`	`k`
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`15:40.56`	`Dandre`	`Hello all,`
`15:41.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : What does "wanrouter status" tell you?`
`15:41.37`	`iCEBrkr`	`Disconnected`
`15:41.40`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: http://generalhan.pastebin.ca/34193`
`15:41.59`	`Dandre`	`A very simple problem but I don't find answer on the wiki.`
`15:42.20`	`Dandre`	`I have this in a context:`
`15:42.21`	`Dandre`	`exten => s,1,Answer ; Answer the line`
`15:42.23`	`Dandre`	`exten => s,2,BackGround(custom/10)`
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`15:42.24`	`Dandre`	`exten => s,3,Goto(s,2)`
`15:43.01`	`Dandre`	`and when the caller hangs up, the line isn't hungup and le message is still played`
`15:43.08`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Dandre, and your PBX takes 100% CPU time, right?`
`15:43.24`	`Dandre`	`maybe I have stopped it`
`15:43.26`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`oops, rsorry, misread`
`15:43.40`	`Dandre`	`and restarted`
`15:44.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`generalhan : i NED TO SEE THAT CONTEXT THAT CALLS THAT ONE TOO.`
`15:44.34`	`Dandre`	`maybe should I use Play instead of background?`
`15:44.37`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: that calls what ? are you looking for the queue context that i redirect to ?`
`15:44.37`	`iCEBrkr`	`WHY ARE YOU YELLING?!`
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`15:45.41`	`backblue`	`hi, does cisco 7970 works with SIP ?`
`15:45.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Becaue I work in CAPS DAMMIT!`
`15:45.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`OK THEN`
`15:45.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`DITTO`
`15:46.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:D`
`15:46.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`of, sorry... :d`
`15:47.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`file[laptop] : Any experience with chan_bluetooth?`
`15:47.40`	`backblue`	`hi, does cisco 7970 works with SIP ?`
`15:47.44`	`file[laptop]`	`[TK]D-Fender: negatory there Big Buddy`
`15:47.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`backblue : yes if you installed the SIP firmware.`
`15:48.00`	`file[laptop]`	`7970 doesn't have SIP firmware sadly enough`
`15:48.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`file[laptop] : with phones like ours we really should...`
`15:48.12`	`backblue`	`file[laptop]: why not?`
`15:48.19`	`file[laptop]`	`backblue: I'm not Cisco.`
`15:48.24`	`Dandre`	`Playback has same problem`
`15:48.43`	`backblue`	`file[laptop]: yes but you sayed, so you know what you are saying. i suposed :o`
`15:48.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`LOL`
`15:49.05`	`file[laptop]`	`I don't know the stuff behind Cisco's decisions`
`15:49.22`	`iCEBrkr`	`HACK THE GIBSON!`
`15:49.32`	`file[laptop]`	`iCEBrkr: later when I'm done work`
`15:49.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : So what'd "wanrouter status" have to say?`
`15:49.39`	`backblue`	`i'm trying to find cisco 7970 sip documentation with cisco, but does not find anything.`
`15:49.44`	`iCEBrkr`	`[TK]D-Fender: Disconnected .`
`15:49.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:/`
`15:49.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Have you tried plugging it in? :)`
`15:49.59`	`iCEBrkr`	`SHIT`
`15:50.04`	`generalhan`	`HAHA`
`15:50.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`I always forget that part`
`15:50.10`	`generalhan`	`lol`
`15:50.13`	`iCEBrkr`	`It's plugged in :P`
`15:50.14`	`file[laptop]`	`o... m... g...`
`15:50.18`	`file[laptop]`	`TOAST!`
`15:51.08`	`ManxPower`	`shiver So cold. shiver`
`15:51.20`	`*** part/#asterisk Akelavlk (n=jansun@82.119.239.141)`
`15:51.21`	`file[laptop]`	`ManxPower: where are you?`
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`15:51.37`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o anthm] by ChanServ`
`15:51.45`	`ManxPower`	`file[desk], There's FROST on the car.`
`15:51.46`	`crich1999`	`Has anyone every successfully used: Set (one=$[ String:Regexp ]) ?`
`15:51.50`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: http://generalhan.pastebin.ca/34196 does that help a bit more ????`
`15:52.03`	`ManxPower`	`file[desk], I'm on a mountian in north central AL`
`15:52.10`	`file[laptop]`	`ManxPower: ah so you made it`
`15:53.18`	`ManxPower`	`file[desk], Yup!`
`15:53.28`	`file[laptop]`	`good good`
`15:53.41`	`ManxPower`	`It's quite pretty here. The place has a hottub too.`
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`15:54.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`generalhan : I want to see the context that calls #`
`15:54.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[live_xfer]`
`15:54.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`and does that NoOp`
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`15:54.44`	`jcwunder`	`"show channels" shows me some channels that are absolutely not active... but why do i see these dead channels ?`
`15:55.14`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: ohh im sorry, i call on the NoOP at the very begining when the numbers are defined, hang on ill get that for you`
`15:55.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Show me everything in the call's path`
`15:55.42`	`generalhan`	`exten => 2017163320,1,NoOP(${CALLERID}-${EXTEN})`
`15:55.42`	`generalhan`	`exten => 2017163320,2,Goto(live_xfer,s,1)`
`15:55.44`	`jcwunder`	`"database show" also shows an entry that is obsolete...`
`15:55.46`	`generalhan`	`shit sorry guys`
`15:56.00`	`generalhan`	`i didnt mean to do that`
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`15:56.19`	`jcwunder`	`how do i get rid of these dead channels and databese entries ?`
`15:57.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`generalhan : You are using CALLERID in your NoOp and CALLERIDNUM in the other. Be consistant`
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`15:58.14`	`nfi\|ermes`	`hi all`
`15:58.22`	`generalhan`	`ok let me make that adjustment first. then ill run though it again and see if it makes a difference`
`15:58.39`	`nfi\|ermes`	`i have an hfc card and i use zaptel driver. How can i set the MSN ?`
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`16:03.18`	`iCEBrkr`	`span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs`
`16:03.18`	`iCEBrkr`	`bchan=1-23`
`16:03.18`	`iCEBrkr`	`dchan=24`
`16:03.22`	`iCEBrkr`	`It should be THAT simple`
`16:03.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`wancfg I have basically the same deal`
`16:04.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And wanrouter status still shows down?`
`16:04.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`yeah`
`16:04.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tried a restart?`
`16:04.47`	`iCEBrkr`	`Yup`
`16:05.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`hmmm. pastebin your wanpipe1 config`
`16:05.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`Hang on a sec, it's a quad-span card, how the heck do you know which 'span' or port it's using?`
`16:05.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Normally you get 1 config file per port`
`16:05.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`Yeah`
`16:06.00`	`iCEBrkr`	`Lemme configure all of them. :P`
`16:06.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`Just for the hell of it`
`16:06.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`w1g1, w2g1, etc`
`16:06.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`OH and don't forget that the ports are the REVERS order of Digium cards!`
`16:06.42`	`iCEBrkr`	`eh?`
`16:06.49`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: i need support.`
`16:06.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`The order of the jack in the back`
`16:06.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`There's a 1 stamped on the left side of the card.. That's not port 1?`
`16:06.56`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: you shall be my supporty person!`
`16:07.02`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: i require a recipe.`
`16:07.07`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: a main dish recipe.`
`16:07.09`	`Psy0rz`	`ok for all the AMP users: when you have a inbound route, and leave the DID blank, it will not work. :)`
`16:07.26`	`Psy0rz`	`annnnd you shouldn't be using amp anyway ;)`
`16:07.49`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: while an exact ingredient list isn't required, the name of your favorite dish (or 2 favorites) would be muchly appreciated.`
`16:07.59`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Psy0rz, managed to get your amp into a nice 100% CPU loop?`
`16:08.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : Bottom port = port 1`
`16:08.26`	`trixter`	`katty: a side dish is champ, its an irish dish.. mashed potatoes with cream and green onions`
`16:08.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Katty : Butter Chicken, Chicken Biryani, Thai Pinapple rice.`
`16:09.18`	`iCEBrkr`	`Welp, that didn't do anything`
`16:09.26`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: ok i changed it up a bit and put in a new SetVar so i can watch the process of the :1 and :-1 and it isnt wuite saving it the right way.... http://generalhan.pastebin.ca/34198`
`16:09.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I'm all Eastern with regards to food.`
`16:09.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`'card 0' is BLU/RED while the rest are just RED`
`16:10.07`	`Katty`	`[TK]D-Fender: kthx.`
`16:10.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I make my own :) Sushi too.`
`16:10.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : Pastebin its config`
`16:10.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`the wanpipe config?`
`16:10.57`	`trixter`	`my exfiancee taught me to make sushi`
`16:11.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S/B wanpipe1.conf`
`16:11.10`	`bsdfreak`	`yeah`
`16:11.11`	`bsdfreak`	`ah ah`
`16:11.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`k`
`16:11.58`	`iCEBrkr`	`http://pastebin.ca/34199`
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`16:13.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : Change your clokc from MASTER to NORMAL (from telco)`
`16:13.53`	`nfi\|ermes`	`any help for setting msn using hfc cards is happly accepted`
`16:13.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : And you haven't enables the EC stuff`
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`16:14.11`	`Psy0rz`	`tzafrir_laptop what part of amp you mean?`
`16:14.18`	`iCEBrkr`	`Not worried about that at the moment. :)`
`16:14.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : and huge point : your DCHAN is set to 0 where it should be 24`
`16:14.48`	`slak-`	`hey i have a dude connecting to my asterisk box via sip using a softphone...he is at home on his cable modem and behind NAT. when he connects and registers "sip show peers" lists his destination as his NAT ip`
`16:14.53`	`slak-`	`and it is ofcaorse unroutable`
`16:14.58`	`slak-`	`what does he need to do on the client side`
`16:14.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`No DCHAN = DOA`
`16:15.05`	`slak-`	`121/121 192.168.123.100 D 5060 UNREACHABLE`
`16:15.13`	`slak-`	`is what he shows up as`
`16:15.17`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Psy0rz, something about when you tell it to use DIDs but don't define a DID, IIRC`
`16:15.23`	`slak-`	`192.168.123.100 makes no sense to my router`
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`16:15.57`	`slak-`	`[TK]D-Fender help me out ;D`
`16:16.05`	`KriS83`	`Can I somehow disconnect a sip call from asterisk? :/`
`16:16.14`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`The basic problem is the AMP is quite wild with overriding the 's' context from included contexts . This is just one time where this design flaw hit`
`16:16.29`	`KriS83`	`I have 2 SIP sessions that are keeping my asterisk busy, but no SIPs connected :/`
`16:16.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`slak- : Make sure you use NAT=YES for him, and QUALIFY=2000`
`16:16.45`	`slak-`	`ok in sip.conf`
`16:16.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`yup`
`16:17.51`	`slak-`	`TK: im getting bad echo`
`16:17.53`	`slak-`	`i hear myself`
`16:17.57`	`slak-`	`;/`
`16:18.09`	`slak-`	`without those two settings`
`16:19.05`	`backblue`	`there is any patch for intel codecs to work with asterisk 1.2?`
`16:19.15`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: can you help me out with this some more? the :-1`
`16:19.20`	`Psy0rz`	`tzafrir_laptop well i told it to use dids, but it just seems to accept any did now.`
`16:19.23`	`generalhan`	`seems to vut off more than i need`
`16:19.24`	`Psy0rz`	`instead of the one i defined`
`16:19.29`	`docelm0`	`backblue, what are you talking about?`
`16:19.38`	`Mimmus`	`[TK]D-Fender: BTW, I solved problem with FTP to Sangoma site: my firewall had a too forceful check`
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`16:21.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`generalhan : Do each trim, NoOp the result.`
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`16:21.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`after each that is. And confrm the vars content before you start`
`16:21.51`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: well the console shows me what it WAS and what it is after each trim`
`16:21.52`	`generalhan`	`http://generalhan.pastebin.ca/34198`
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`16:22.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`generalhan : Maybe I got that -1 part a little wrong.`
`16:23.15`	`generalhan`	`[TK]:well your guess is 1000 times more credible than mine ! lol`
`16:24.48`	`slak-`	`TK: im trying to call his softphone, it rings and goes to voicemail, but he claims xten-lite never displays that theres an incoming call`
`16:25.29`	`FITA1`	`Hi I m trying to transfer a call to another extension, but when the phone(extension) to which I am dialing is busy asterisk terminates the call instead of bridgeing the the origional two channels again`
`16:25.49`	`slak-`	`TK: does he need to forward 5060 from his router to his client`
`16:27.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`slak- : Maybe... not certain. You did the rest? NAT, QUALIFY, etc?`
`16:27.40`	`slak-`	`i did NAT and QUALIFY`
`16:27.53`	`slak-`	`and that made his real IP show up under 'sip show peers'`
`16:28.13`	`slak-`	`and he can call me here, but when i try to call his extension it rings and goes to voicemail`
`16:28.19`	`slak-`	`he claims xten-lite never shows an incoming call`
`16:28.33`	`generalhan`	`Anyone have a link for all the trim operators like : and , ect? i need to figure out how to correctly trim down this Var.`
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`16:28.55`	`kernelbee`	`Hi, I m using SIP phones, if I m transfering my sip call when transfering channel is free than we don't face any problem.. if channel is busy than asterisk drop call.. any one know the solution?`
`16:28.56`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`~voip-info`
`16:28.57`	`jbot`	`i heard voip-info is the Voice Over IP wiki. It is a community resource which will answer all of your questions, from Asterisk to ZTDummy. You can find it over at http://www.voip-info.org - well worth bookmarking`
`16:29.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`generalhan try something more like SetVar(trimmed=${CALLERID:1:$[${LEN(${CALLERID})}-1]})`
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`16:29.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Thats an all-in one solution`
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`16:30.01`	`slak-`	`TK: so any clue why he isnt seeing incoming calls`
`16:30.07`	`slak-`	`but is able to place outgoing`
`16:30.10`	`generalhan`	`lol`
`16:30.13`	`generalhan`	`ok ill try that out`
`16:30.14`	`slak-`	`the client is behind NAT`
`16:30.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`not sure`
`16:30.22`	`slak-`	`not forwaring 5060UDP`
`16:30.51`	`slak-`	`why did you have me use QUALIFY`
`16:30.52`	`slak-`	`and NAT`
`16:30.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pastebin the sip.conf entry for him. And you YOU NAT'd?`
`16:31.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`s/you/are`
`16:31.16`	`slak-`	`well the asterisk box runs on the firewall`
`16:31.17`	`slak-`	`and listening on *:sip`
`16:31.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Ok, so pastebin SIP.CONF (heck, the whole thing)`
`16:31.53`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: with the SetVar you just sent me i end up with this ..... -- Executing SetVar("IAX2/voicepulse-wgw001@voicepulse-wgw001/16", "trimmed=8777655529" <user>") in new stack`
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`16:32.23`	`cj-rm`	`hey ppl`
`16:32.29`	`generalhan`	`thats the same output as the ${CALLERIDNUM:1})`
`16:32.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SetVar(trimmed=${CALLERIDNUM:1:$[${LEN(${CALLERIDNUM})}-2]})`
`16:32.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`my bad`
`16:33.32`	`slak-`	`http://pastebin.ca/34200`
`16:33.35`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: i get this with that one ""trimmed=ser") in new stack`
`16:34.05`	`generalhan`	`where did it get the "ser" ? lol`
`16:34.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`slak-: ok... no idea now.`
`16:34.32`	`slak-`	`i removed the qualify=yes`
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`16:35.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`generalhan : somethings wrong with th var we started with, rad this and start playing around : http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+variables`
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`16:35.49`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: thanks !`
`16:36.00`	`cj-rm`	`I'm trying to get Festival working with asterisk... I'm using version 1.4.3. I'm running the festival daemon, and have a line in my extensions.conf saying exten => 2222,n,Festival(hello world) . The logs show asterisk calling to festival and disconnecting, but no audio is played. asterisk also appears to stall on this line.`
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`16:36.23`	`cj-rm`	`anyone got any ideas??`
`16:36.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`I often wonder why people waste their time with Festival`
`16:37.09`	`Seldon1975`	`hi; analog phones going through my TDM2412E work fine but all the SIP devices (polycom 301s, SPA-3000s) have really bad echo. Is this liklely to be an Asterisk thing, or is it more likely I need to twiddle with the audio processing (jitterbuffer) on each SIP device?`
`16:37.12`	`iCEBrkr`	`It's neat the first time through, but what the heck would you use it for?`
`16:37.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : So how's the fix go?`
`16:37.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`:(`
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`16:38.37`	`nfi\|ermes`	`if i have two phone numbers in the same isdn hfc card...how can i set it to answer to only one of thhese ?`
`16:39.41`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`nfi\|ermes, what ISDN channel do you use?`
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`16:40.11`	`cj-rm`	`iCEBrkr: dynamic content and ivr menus`
`16:40.22`	`iCEBrkr`	`cj-rm: yea, but it sounds like shit`
`16:40.37`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`cj-rm, On Debian it worked pretty much out of the box`
`16:40.39`	`Seldon1975`	`does anyone have time to check this out for me? I came in this morning and all of my trunks were congested with unterminated voicemail operations as shown in http://pastebin.com/470201, my extensions.conf is: http://pastebin.com/470190. can anyone see what in my dialplan would allow this to happen?`
`16:40.54`	`cj-rm`	`iCEBrkr: yeah, but some of the commercial voices etc are really REALLY good`
`16:40.59`	`iCEBrkr`	`cj-rm: ...and I vaguely recall installind a female voice, but getting Festival to use it was like pulling teeth.`
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`16:41.53`	`nfi\|ermes`	`tzafrir_laptop, i use euroisdn`
`16:42.04`	`__a`	`guys, does CVS have comfort noise support?`
`16:42.05`	`nfi\|ermes`	`zaptel channel`
`16:42.17`	`cj-rm`	`tzafrir_laptop: unfortunately I don't get to change the distro...`
`16:42.41`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`nfi\|ermes, I mean: with asterisk. zapbri? chan_modem? chan_capi? chan_misdn? chan_visdn?`
`16:42.59`	`nfi\|ermes`	`zaphfc`
`16:43.19`	`nfi\|ermes`	`with bristuff`
`16:43.58`	`iCEBrkr`	`genpoo`
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`16:44.32`	`cj-rm`	`So, has anyone managed to get festival going after experiencing problems like that?`
`16:44.47`	`iCEBrkr`	`I've gotten Festival to work just fine on RedHat and Fedora`
`16:45.52`	`nfi\|ermes`	`tzafrir_laptop, any idea ?`
`16:45.57`	`slak-`	`hey this dude is using microphone and speakers to communicate with me, and i have some bad echo when i talk to him`
`16:46.04`	`slak-`	`i think its the feedback from the speakers`
`16:46.10`	`slak-`	`how can i get rid of that..`
`16:46.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Headset <-`
`16:46.20`	`slak-`	`besides that`
`16:46.29`	`slak-`	`any filtering?`
`16:46.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And X-Ten's stuff has acoustic echo cancellation options`
`16:46.43`	`slak-`	`he uses skype and that issue doesnt exist\`
`16:46.44`	`harlequin516`	`What calls do I need to make to originate a Call out to a phone number... What am I missing, why is there no Dial AGI command ?`
`16:47.13`	`zoa`	`probably skype has better echo cancellation`
`16:47.35`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`nfi\|ermes, so what should the second card do when a call comes in? I'm trying to figure out if this is a matter of channel settings or dialplan settings`
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`16:49.51`	`nfi\|ermes`	`example:`
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`16:50.14`	`nfi\|ermes`	`if u call 123 or 124 you always call me on the same isdn line`
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`16:50.29`	`nfi\|ermes`	`i want asterisk answer only to 123`
`16:50.54`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: thanks a lot for your help ... i finally got it by just using ${CALLERID:1:10} to get rid of the first quotation and take the next 10 chars. but again thanks for walking me though all this !`
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`16:51.38`	`FITA1`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:51.47`	`FITA1`	`any suggestions????`
`16:51.54`	`slak-`	`The current release of X-Lite does not include an echo suppression application.`
`16:51.57`	`slak-`	`;/`
`16:52.14`	`nfi\|ermes`	`tzafrir_laptop`
`16:52.27`	`nfi\|ermes`	`look configuration of modem.conf`
`16:52.40`	`nfi\|ermes`	`there is incomingmsn possibility`
`16:52.42`	`nfi\|ermes`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+modem.conf`
`16:53.02`	`nfi\|ermes`	`i wan t to specify msn on a chap channel`
`16:53.22`	`cj-rm`	`iCEBrkr: any ideas why mine isn't working then?`
`16:53.36`	`cj-rm`	`I've compiled it all from source, patched it etc...`
`16:53.49`	`iCEBrkr`	`then it should work`
`16:54.02`	`iCEBrkr`	`If you followed the how-to on the wiki, it just works.`
`16:54.21`	`cj-rm`	`iCEBrkr: I've followed it, but it's not working`
`16:55.12`	`iCEBrkr`	`cj-rm: 'which festival'`
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`16:56.02`	`cj-rm`	`i.4.3`
`16:56.05`	`cj-rm`	`I mean 1.4.3`
`16:57.19`	`iCEBrkr`	`nono`
`16:57.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : Here's a drop-in replacement for your wanpipe1.conf file. http://pastebin.ca/34202 Back the old one up and doa STOP, then a start`
`16:57.40`	`iCEBrkr`	`cj-rm: 'which festival' type that`
`16:57.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`HWEC stuff in there too.`
`16:58.09`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`nfi\|ermes, modem.conf is irrelevant to chan_zap`
`16:58.20`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`chan_zap is configured by zapata.conf`
`16:58.45`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`(and the zaptel modules themselves: by zaptel.conf and/or load-time parameters)`
`16:58.51`	`cj-rm`	`ahh :)`
`17:00.12`	`harlequin516`	`How can one open a channel with agi?`
`17:00.35`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`generate a call file...`
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`17:01.07`	`harlequin516`	`How can I Open two channels and connect them?`
`17:01.19`	`nfi\|ermes`	`tzafrir_laptop, i know the difference between zaptel and modem, i d like only you understand which is my goal`
`17:01.42`	`cj-rm`	`iCEBrkr: its running from /usr/src/festival/bin`
`17:02.35`	`iCEBrkr`	`cj-rm: welp.. copy that into /usr/bin`
`17:02.50`	`iCEBrkr`	`Cuz Asterisk isn't gonna look for it in /usr/src/festival/bin`
`17:02.54`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`cj-rm, or symlink it`
`17:02.59`	`iCEBrkr`	`or that`
`17:03.02`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`or adjust PATH`
`17:03.16`	`cj-rm`	`iCEBrkr: I've got symlinks in /usr/bin already`
`17:03.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`cj-rm: ok, so have you been able to make it 'talk' from the command line?`
`17:03.48`	`iCEBrkr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:03.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`HMM`
`17:04.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wHAT ERROR?`
`17:04.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`oops, caps again :)`
`17:04.11`	`iCEBrkr`	`dunno`
`17:04.35`	`cj-rm`	`iCEBrkr: yeah, kinda... it's a remote box, so I have to output to a file though...`
`17:04.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Go through the config again, patch up the DCHAN add the HWEC stuff and you should be fine if the line is provisioned right`
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`17:04.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`cj-rm: ummm.`
`17:05.12`	`cp5`	`anyone run into an issue where inbound calls get connected to parked calls?`
`17:05.14`	`iCEBrkr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:05.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`lol`
`17:05.40`	`FITA1`	`I am facing this problem http://pastebin.ca/34204 please help`
`17:06.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`I'm wondering if these PRI's aren't turned up`
`17:06.43`	`cj-rm`	`PRI's????`
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`17:13.07`	`iCEBrkr`	`cj-rm: Just got 3 PRI's installed. Not sure if they're turned up or not`
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`17:16.06`	`coppice`	`turned up? you mean to 11?`
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`17:18.41`	`jeffik`	`coppice: turned up means the telco has to make them operational`
`17:19.08`	`coppice`	`jeffik: never. surely not. really? :-\`
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`17:19.36`	`jeffik`	`coppice: who is your pri provider, i have 25 years traditional pbx adin`
`17:19.42`	raeth`	`hmm, does anyone know if inbound international calls work with nufone? i know it says 2 cents a minute to the 48 states, does that mean that inc. international calls are flat out rejected?`
`17:20.46`	`harlequin516`	`How can you pass paramentes or other data when you orginate a call ?`
`17:20.46`	`caio1982`	`http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2003-June/000863.html`
`17:20.47`	`caio1982`	`i looked for that to not need to write a lot of patterns, a lot of lines with XXXXX and the actual matchers... there isn't any other way to handle patterns in asterisk then?`
`17:21.41`	`gniretar_work`	`is it possible to use queues with a static pool of extensions (opposed to agents)`
`17:21.44`	`coppice`	`D-Fender: that's one of those old loud christmassy songs isn't it? I can't place which`
`17:21.47`	`harlequin516`	`I need to have the dialplan dial out to a POTS line, then call an AGI application with parameters that were sent when originated...`
`17:22.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice : not quite :D`
`17:22.31`	`synthetiq`	`dial SIP/phone#@ip) is legal?`
`17:22.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice : Depending on your idea of Christmas of course ;)`
`17:22.45`	`synthetiq`	`dial(SIP/phone#@ip) err legal syntax i mean`
`17:24.41`	`harlequin516`	`then call an AGI application with parameters that`
`17:25.16`	`harlequin516`	`Anyone know the best way to do this?`
`17:25.59`	`coppice`	`[TK]D-Fender: google is my friend. I was thinking of the right group, but the wrong song :-\`
`17:26.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I love my 80's big-hair rock :)`
`17:28.35`	`coppice`	`I certainly had more hair then`
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`17:29.43`	`cj-rm`	`iCEBrkr: hmmm... It seems that Festival is actually working... It just doesn't work for longer strings of above more than 20 characters.... "Hello" on its own works fine...`
`17:32.11`	`Seldon1975`	`can someone tell me the command-line to use to check wheterh I have 'postgresql-devel' installed`
`17:32.31`	`Seldon1975`	`pls`
`17:33.33`	`harlequin516`	`Anyone know how to originate a call with parameters, or arguments?`
`17:35.18`	`docelm0`	`rpm -qa \| grep postgres`
`17:36.43`	`Seldon1975`	`thx`
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`17:37.30`	`Seldon1975`	`docelmo that resturned nothing - it means package 'postgres-devel' is not installed?`
`17:38.03`	`docelm0`	`means you didnt install any RPM packages of postgresql`
`17:41.23`	`Seldon1975`	`doc: Im using asterisk@home and trying to determine whether it installed 'postgres-devel'`
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`17:43.26`	`docelmo`	`why torment yourself by using ACK@home..`
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`17:43.43`	`Seldon1975`	`doc: i didnt realise till it was too late to start over`
`17:43.48`	`fugitivo`	`we should start an anti @home movement`
`17:44.12`	`Seldon1975`	`..so will that RPM command tell me about postgres-devel?`
`17:44.14`	`docelmo`	`Just start over you will gain more time by doing that than screwing with ACK@home..`
`17:44.25`	`Seldon1975`	`I have a working system`
`17:44.30`	`Seldon1975`	`cant afford the downtime at the moment`
`17:45.03`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`I'm trying to get a junghanns quad bri card with bristuff vs. some bri gateway, and can't send calls. "Unable to create a channel of type Zap" is a generic error message that something wen't wrong, and I should dig deeper, right?`
`17:45.08`	`iCEBrkr`	`[TK]D-Fender: Any reason why this thing thinks the protocol is HDLC?`
`17:45.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`Device name \| Protocol \| Station \| Status \|`
`17:45.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`wanpipe1 \| AFT HDLC \| N/A \| Disconnected \|`
`17:45.23`	`docelmo`	`Sorry to hear that.. All I can say is use the command I gave you. If its there it will show up. If not then your on your own.. I dont know squat about post..`
`17:46.28`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`in 'pri show status' I see "Status: Provisioned, Down, Active". Is "Down" a sign of a problem?`
`17:46.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`lol`
`17:46.55`	`mutilator`	`argh`
`17:47.03`	`mutilator`	`it only does it via the website too`
`17:47.10`	`mutilator`	`so it has ot be either iis or myodbc`
`17:48.24`	`harlequin516`	`When you set Variables with an originate action, does the scope of the variables live past the call? Or is it only available within the time/local scope of the call?`
`17:49.14`	`harlequin516`	`It seems like there are no experts today... ;(`
`17:49.26`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`harlequin516, they are local channe variables, and hence normally die at the end of the call`
`17:50.08`	`harlequin516`	`Are they available to other calls, execting at the same time?`
`17:51.09`	`harlequin516`	`Or is it like forked environments, where they inherit, but not extern`
`17:51.13`	`harlequin516`	`?`
`17:51.55`	`wunderkin`	`tzafrir_laptop, i think that means administratively down`
`17:52.28`	`wunderkin`	`tzafrir_laptop, i see the same thing and one of mine is turned down but provisioned, i get a green light on the card, just the d chan is down`
`17:52.48`	`brad_mssw`	`migrated to asterisk 1.2, Enum gives me a warning: The application EnumLookup is deprecated. Please use the ENUMLOOKUP() function instead. .. but cannot find docs on the all-caps ENUMLOOKUP() function`
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`17:55.42`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`wundaboy, what do you mean "d chan is down"?`
`17:56.23`	`wundaboy`	`tzafrir_laptop: wrong person im not wunderkin`
`17:57.20`	`KriS83`	`If I call numbers with +49XXX how would the exten have to look like?`
`17:57.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : HDLC is right, its just the means by which it drops frames off to ZAptel. Doesn't imply tht its using it for "data" like it may sound.`
`17:57.55`	`trixter`	`exten => _49xxx,1,blah`
`17:58.14`	`wunderkin`	`the d channel signalling is turned off, so.. the line can not function..`
`17:58.45`	`iCEBrkr`	`[TK]D-Fender: ahh ok`
`18:02.15`	`gambolputty`	`Dialplans are much faster in AEL vs realtime.`
`18:02.31`	`tdonahue`	`hi all`
`18:03.02`	`trixter`	`voicemail is faster when writing to a ramdisk vs a 4200 rpm drive :P`
`18:03.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`:)`
`18:03.31`	`gambolputty`	`I take it you have a 200 gig ramdisk then?`
`18:03.35`	`fugitivo`	`4200rpm? that's old :)`
`18:04.20`	`trixter`	`regardless of size or complexity its still faster`
`18:04.31`	`trixter`	`fugitivo: could be worse I could have said mfm or rll`
`18:04.33`	`trixter`	`:P`
`18:04.47`	`trixter`	`or worse 9 track`
`18:04.47`	`kuku5`	`there are like 4 gb ram disks rght?`
`18:05.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`RAID0 USB Thumb-drives!`
`18:05.23`	`trixter`	`someone did raid0 ipod nanos or shuffles I forget which`
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`18:05.29`	`trixter`	`4 ipods`
`18:06.59`	`CoaxD`	`icebrkr: :/`
`18:07.11`	`iCEBrkr`	`CoaxD: Oh... It's you...`
`18:07.18`	`CoaxD`	`yep. i'm around`
`18:07.27`	`CoaxD`	`..leaving bodies everywhere`
`18:08.21`	`Enderson`	`Hello`
`18:08.23`	`Enderson`	`http://pastebin.com/470451`
`18:09.00`	`Enderson`	`with this config * has to answer my call and playback ok?`
`18:09.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Enderson : Looks good`
`18:09.40`	`Enderson`	`but it doesn't answer`
`18:09.43`	`Enderson`	`=/`
`18:09.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`What do you get in CLI?`
`18:09.54`	`Enderson`	`nothing`
`18:09.59`	`Enderson`	`verbose and debug at 1000`
`18:10.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Have you tried pluggin it in? :)`
`18:10.14`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`wunderkin, how do you see that the D channel is down? Where do I configure zaptel/asterisk to use it? zapata.conf seems to only require to configure b channels.`
`18:10.26`	`Enderson`	`I already aheva working config with SIP calling other number, and normal phone numbers`
`18:10.46`	`Enderson`	`I can call from my Softphone to any other normal phone numbers`
`18:11.02`	`SkramX`	`Hi All.`
`18:11.15`	`Enderson`	`[TK]D-Fender: I even see the RX up and down when I call it, with ztmonitor 1 -v`
`18:11.53`	`ManxPower`	`Does anyone know what DVR Dish Network uses?`
`18:12.02`	`ManxPower`	`I assume it's not TiVo`
`18:12.49`	`SkramX`	`sup, tzafrir_laptop`
`18:12.55`	`SkramX`	`Oops. [TK]D-Fender`
`18:15.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:O`
`18:15.12`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`SkramX, generally OK. trying to make the ISDN card in front of me become just as OK`
`18:16.19`	`Enderson`	`is there another way to see if the call is getting the asterisk ?`
`18:16.46`	`Seldon1975`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:16.49`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Enderson, the first being?`
`18:17.04`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Enderson, asterisk -rvvvvv is known to help`
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`18:17.42`	`Enderson`	`tzafrir_laptop: I've already put verbose at 10, but it doesn't say anything if I call it's number`
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`18:17.56`	`Enderson`	`when I cal from SIP to another number, it show informations OK,`
`18:17.59`	`ManxPower`	`Seldon1975, that means there was no caller id info for the call`
`18:18.33`	`ManxPower`	`Enderson, REMEBER, SIP phones do NOT send the call to Asterisk until they get (what the device thinks is) the entire number.,`
`18:18.37`	`ManxPower`	`~docs`
`18:18.39`	`jbot`	`hmm... docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html`
`18:18.41`	`ManxPower`	`~mailinglist`
`18:18.42`	`jbot`	`well, mailinglist is Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/ or search through it at http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives/search.php, or and there is also the Macintosh Asterisk mailing list at http://www.astmasters.net/maml.html`
`18:18.48`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`well, bye now`
`18:18.56`	`Seldon1975`	`manx: thanks`
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`18:20.08`	`Enderson`	`ManxPower: ok, but I can call from SIP to any other number`
`18:20.17`	`Enderson`	`so the hardware is OK`
`18:20.29`	`Enderson`	`but why it doesn't answer ?`
`18:20.33`	`SkramX`	`~*`
`18:20.34`	`jbot`	`ACTION beats $foo mercilessly with a lead \|`
`18:20.40`	`SkramX`	`LOL`
`18:21.22`	`_Sam--`	`ManxPower: im not positive, but i think the dishnet makes their own DVRs`
`18:21.37`	`_Sam--`	`i have a DirectTV tivo, its just a little linux box, its all hacked`
`18:22.26`	`_Sam--`	`i would recommend one if you can still find them -- directv cancelled their relationship with tivo and now makes their own also`
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`18:23.54`	`Seldon1975`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:24.55`	`ManxPower`	`Enderson, exact same number format?`
`18:25.06`	`ManxPower`	`remember, many SIP devices have their own internal dialplan`
`18:25.31`	`mitcheloc`	`anyone have a moment? i can't get zaptel to compile on FC4, i've been trying for hours to get the kernel-devel package to populate the build directory, but no luck so far`
`18:26.09`	`mitcheloc`	`i've been following the wiki suggestions as well`
`18:26.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`FIZZUCK FC4`
`18:26.21`	`iCEBrkr`	`FC4 is complete junk`
`18:26.34`	`fugitivo`	`FC is not for compiling`
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`18:26.42`	`mitcheloc`	`i agree, but i still have a phone system down at the moment`
`18:26.48`	`iCEBrkr`	`I've attempted to use FC4 at least 3 times.. It's junk`
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`18:26.58`	`mitcheloc`	`iCEBrkr: for future reference which OS should I use?`
`18:27.03`	`fugitivo`	`it's all broken nonstandard for compiling :)`
`18:27.09`	`fugitivo`	`mitcheloc: lfs`
`18:27.13`	`iCEBrkr`	`mitcheloc: I rolled back and used FC3, which works as it should.`
`18:27.29`	`mitcheloc`	`ahh agreed, i have an install script i tested and tested of FC3 with no problems`
`18:27.45`	`mitcheloc`	`and i agree, now that you mention it, FC4 did screw it up`
`18:27.59`	`mitcheloc`	`but i'm still stuck right now, does anyone know how to get zaptel to compile on it?`
`18:28.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`..and it's not even just issues with Asterisk. FC4 has partition and boot manager issues`
`18:28.24`	`Seldon1975`	`hi all, my SIP phones occasionally get digitized cross-talk from the Analog lines going into my card!? how is this possible and how can it be prevented?`
`18:28.36`	`iCEBrkr`	`mitcheloc: Can you get the FC4 devel RPMs?`
`18:28.37`	`mitcheloc`	`linux from scratch....eek`
`18:28.38`	`Seldon1975`	`its a TDM2412E`
`18:29.03`	`mitcheloc`	`iCEBrkr: i can get anything that can be downloaded, i've yum installed kernel-devel and kernel-smp-devel about 10 times now`
`18:29.14`	`iCEBrkr`	`mitcheloc: and?`
`18:29.18`	`harlequin516`	`Ughhhh I got all this really kewl development going on only to realizer I am using asterisk 1.0.9 Why dost thou OpenSuseLinux forsake thee......`
`18:29.18`	`iCEBrkr`	`what's breaking?`
`18:29.39`	`mitcheloc`	and nothing goes in the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build directory
`18:29.49`	`mitcheloc`	`and supposedly theres supposed to be stuff there so that zaptel can compile against it`
`18:29.50`	`iCEBrkr`	`mitcheloc: what's zaptel not doing?`
`18:29.50`	`Alric`	`Trying to get realtime working... I have the ODBC stuff setup, but isql (and the asterisk items) refuse to connect to the DSN, but odbcinst says its there. http://pastebin.ca/34224 Any ideas?`
`18:30.03`	`Seldon1975`	`anyone here using Polycom301s?`
`18:30.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`yeah`
`18:30.11`	`Alric`	`isql says the DSN isn't present, but it appears to be :(`
`18:30.16`	`Seldon1975`	`the setting voice.codecPref.IP_300.G711Mu="1" doesnt seem to work for me`
`18:30.18`	`mitcheloc`	`i just did a make clean/make linux26 on zaptel directory and i get this:`
`18:30.21`	`mitcheloc`	"make[1]: Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.14-1.1644_FC4smp/build'"
`18:30.30`	`mitcheloc`	"make[1]: *** No rule to make target `modules'. Stop."
`18:30.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`ya don't need 'make linux26' anymore`
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`18:30.51`	`mitcheloc`	`okay, well same error`
`18:30.57`	`rob314`	`hello room, anyone out there using dell poweredge 2800s with FXS cards?`
`18:31.09`	`rob314`	`I am looking for any way to power the FXS cards (with the 4 pin molex connector) but do not see any cables in there or even anywhere to plug in an adapter...`
`18:32.54`	`mitcheloc`	`iCEBrkr: what do you suggest? get FC3, or i'm interested in trying FreeBSD, but is it easy to set up on?`
`18:33.00`	`iCEBrkr`	`There used to be a 'make symlinks'`
`18:33.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`but not anymore`
`18:33.06`	`harlequin516`	`Whats the cheapest bestest VOIP ether hardphone?`
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`18:33.18`	`generalhan`	`Whats up guys ! ?`
`18:33.47`	`generalhan`	`anyone in here using macros ? i have a quick question !`
`18:34.01`	`mitcheloc`	`that sounds useful, why would they have taken that out`
`18:34.29`	`generalhan`	`my question is VERY simple ... can i do this >>>>> http://generalhan.pastebin.ca/34228 ?`
`18:35.47`	`iCEBrkr`	mitcheloc: you could always manually symlink back to /usr/src/`urname -r`
`18:36.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`harlequin516 : Best or cheap. Chose ONE :)`
`18:36.50`	`mitcheloc`	`iCEBrkr: i'm half understanding what you are saying, and it sounds right`
`18:37.03`	`mitcheloc`	`iCEBrkr: but i don't know exactly how to proceede`
`18:37.35`	`iCEBrkr`	`ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.<whatever>/ /lib/modules/2.6.<whatever>`
`18:37.38`	`mitcheloc`	iCEBrkr: if I understood this much, I grab the actual kernel source from kernels.org, then untar it then symlink from /lib/build/`uname -r`/build to /usr/src/kernel-2.6 source ?
`18:37.49`	`iCEBrkr`	`yeah`
`18:37.55`	`iCEBrkr`	`something like that`
`18:37.56`	`mitcheloc`	`okay ;), trying now`
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`18:38.01`	`uuuppz`	`hey`
`18:38.02`	`iCEBrkr`	`2005 source -> /usr/src/linux-2.6.11.8/`
`18:38.10`	`uuuppz`	`I'm having a problem`
`18:38.28`	`uuuppz`	`:)`
`18:39.02`	`uuuppz`	`SIP Status: 404 Not Found`
`18:39.27`	`uuuppz`	`in response to a sip invite`
`18:40.13`	`mitcheloc`	`iCEBrkr: in your symlink command is the first path to the actual kernel sources? so for my case it would be:`
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`18:40.16`	`mitcheloc`	`ln -s /usr/src/kernels/2.6.14-1.1653_FC4smp-i686/ /lib/modules/2.6.14-1.1644_FC4smp/`
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`18:41.47`	`mitcheloc`	`i ran that anyways then did make clean/make on zaptel, same error`
`18:44.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`mitcheloc: ln -s <target> <source>`
`18:44.31`	`mitcheloc`	`so i have it reversed`
`18:44.51`	`mitcheloc`	`*ln -s /lib/modules/2.6.14-1.1644_FC4smp/ /usr/src/kernels/2.6.14-1.1653_FC4smp-i686/`
`18:45.17`	`iCEBrkr`	`um, I'm smoke'n`
`18:45.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`you had it right`
`18:45.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`I'm doing 3 things at once here`
`18:45.51`	`mitcheloc`	`okay, well i tried it the first way and it didn't work`
`18:46.00`	`iCEBrkr`	`well you gotta check it`
`18:46.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`make sure it looks right`
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`18:47.49`	`KriS83`	`hmm... somehow Asterisk doesn't like international numbers... When Asterisk has to dial 069123456 it works fine. But if Asterisk has to dial 004969123456 he doesn't like the number`
`18:48.08`	`iCEBrkr`	`KriS83: you mean your dialplan doesn't like it :P`
`18:48.13`	`kpettit`	`I'm trying to get Flash Operator Pannel to work with my test queue I setup. Any good docs on getting it to work`
`18:48.27`	`kpettit`	`The examples are not to descriptive`
`18:48.28`	`docelm0`	`[TK]D-Fender, do you know if its possible in the dialplan to change the canreinvite=yes if its set to no in the dialplan? Kinda like changing codecs?`
`18:48.47`	`file[desk]`	`no, it's not`
`18:48.54`	`docelm0`	`Didnt think so`
`18:49.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`yES IT CAN BE DONE`
`18:49.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`!`
`18:49.11`	`docelm0`	`??`
`18:49.12`	`docelm0`	`how`
`18:49.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`File has given up hope...`
`18:49.29`	`Enderson`	`My problem was solved changing MINPEGTIME on wcfxo.c from 10 * 8, to 5 * 8`
`18:49.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Not ENTIRELY dialplan. You'd need an external scripts and a nasty restart :)`
`18:49.38`	`KriS83`	`iCEBrkr, exten => _XXX.,1,Blah should work or not?`
`18:49.50`	`file[desk]`	`he wants to do it when a call is in progress`
`18:50.00`	`Enderson`	`I tryed connect it direct on the line, an it work, but on the PBX don't work, changing this made it work on the PBX`
`18:50.03`	`docelm0`	`I have one client that wants to reinvite which I dont care.. um, that wouldnt be good.. restart would kill things..`
`18:50.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Oh now you're just being PICKY ;)`
`18:50.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Actually "reload" would reload sip.conf no?`
`18:51.03`	`file[desk]`	`wouldn't effect the call in progress`
`18:51.09`	`docelm0`	`true..`
`18:51.10`	`file[desk]`	`private structure is already created and setup`
`18:51.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`True, but for "next call" grade solution would do....`
`18:51.27`	`docelm0`	`I just dont know if I wanna do thru that much headache`
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`18:51.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:/`
`18:53.22`	`KriS83`	`What does: Don't know what to do with control frame 15 <- that mean?`
`18:53.39`	`KriS83`	`Thats what I get, when trying to dial an international number`
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`18:55.08`	`generalhan`	`[TK]: you got a second to take a look at a maco idea for me ?`
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`18:55.40`	`generalhan`	`maco = macro !`
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`18:59.10`	`franx`	`what ports are requested by a sip phone starting from the login process?`
`18:59.43`	`Darwin35`	`5060 udp`
`18:59.55`	`Darwin35`	`10000 -20000 udp`
`19:00.24`	`franx`	`thanks a lot`
`19:02.58`	`generalhan`	`where do you define the macro contexts? is that done in extensions.conf ?`
`19:04.25`	`wasim`	`generalhan: yep`
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`19:14.30`	`Alric`	`Got the ODBC stuff "resolved", but now ran into another problem. Realtime can see the data (realtime load voicemail mailbox 101 shows data), but when I try to access that mailbox, or leave a VM for it, * says it doesn't exist :(`
`19:16.38`	`Seldon1975`	`can I stop a specific channel from the asterisk console?`
`19:17.24`	`SkramX`	`"soft hangup"`
`19:17.24`	`SkramX`	`:)`
`19:17.30`	`SkramX`	`do show channels, and then do soft hangup <channel>`
`19:17.35`	`Seldon1975`	`thanks`
`19:18.35`	`SkramX`	`haha, sure...`
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`19:20.42`	`ardor`	`Anyone here know a good bulk SMS provider?`
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`19:22.43`	`focks`	`can anyone think of a reason that a Handytone 486 would give a busy on any outbound call, but dial local extens fine and ring in from outside fine? It's registered okay and the context is correct, all the other SIP phones dial out just fine.`
`19:23.00`	`SkramX`	`focks: the phone is a POS?`
`19:23.44`	`focks`	`SkramX what types of issues could that be causing? and why would 2 digits be different than 7?`
`19:24.14`	`focks`	`weird thing is, Asterisk console logs nothing when it dials 7 digit and busies`
`19:24.25`	`SkramX`	`im not too sure.`
`19:24.35`	`focks`	`but dial 2 digits, and you can see the call go through just fine`
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`19:26.20`	`slak-`	`what can explain this behavior`
`19:26.21`	`slak-`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:26.21`	`slak-`	`Dec 19 14:50:28 NOTICE[20761]: chan_sip.c:11328 sip_poke_noanswer: Peer '121' is now UNREACHABLE! Last qualify: 239`
`19:26.21`	`slak-`	`Dec 19 14:50:38 NOTICE[20761]: chan_sip.c:9689 handle_response_peerpoke: Peer '121' is now REACHABLE! (176ms / 2000ms)`
`19:26.30`	`slak-`	`why is it unreachable for ten seconds`
`19:26.41`	`slak-`	`i have qualify=2000 for this user`
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`19:27.10`	`iCEBrkr`	`docelm0: You gonna make it today?`
`19:27.21`	`iCEBrkr`	`I need a non-geek to keep my sanity around these guys LOL`
`19:27.32`	`focks`	`slak- got a flaky cable or a duplicate IP?`
`19:28.29`	`slak-`	`well its remote sip client`
`19:28.30`	`slak-`	`no cables`
`19:28.34`	`slak-`	`and he got his own IP`
`19:29.02`	`focks`	`slak- run mtr on the path and see if there's a lot of loss?`
`19:36.03`	`focks`	`hmm, how does zaptel.conf know which port you're referring to on a multiport card?`
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`19:38.40`	`lofi-rev`	`I'm getting choppy sound on IAX based clients on linux, it seems to be X related. Can anyone point me to a solution?`
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`19:39.06`	`mitcheloc`	`remove X`
`19:40.36`	`lofi-rev`	`mitcheloc, this is not on the asterisk box, but on boxes connecting to the asterisk server with iaxcomm or kiax`
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`19:43.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`Unable to create channel of type 'Zap' (cause 34 - Circuit/channel congestion)`
`19:43.36`	`iCEBrkr`	`:(`
`19:43.47`	`mitcheloc`	`run Windows`
`19:44.16`	`mitcheloc`	`heh ;), jk, i don't know but i suggest asking the people who made the iax clients`
`19:44.19`	`iCEBrkr`	`Ok, so dialing through a TE100P card is like an X100P card right? It's all the same Dial(Zap/1/1235551212) right?`
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`19:44.47`	`mitcheloc`	`for the dial command yes`
`19:45.07`	`mitcheloc`	`do you have your channels right in zaptel.conf?`
`19:45.44`	`mitcheloc`	`i.e. i have 13 data channels and 6 voice, it's something like nethdlc=1-13 and fxsks=14-10`
`19:45.47`	`asteriskmonkey`	`mmmm anyone know why an iaxy device would be able to dial out yet when someone dials in they get people cant hear each other?`
`19:46.00`	`asteriskmonkey`	`it works on dial out but not dial in`
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`19:47.47`	`mitcheloc`	`lofi-rev: do you have enough ram?`
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`19:49.57`	`iCEBrkr`	`mitcheloc: I'm not using TDMxxx cards`
`19:50.07`	`mitcheloc`	`i know`
`19:50.22`	`mitcheloc`	`my setup is with a T100P card`
`19:50.30`	`mitcheloc`	`TE100P is for europe right?`
`19:51.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`Yea, I got a T100P card too`
`19:51.21`	`lofi-rev`	`mitcheloc, I believe so, there is about 30M outright free, and 220M free in buffers and cache`
`19:52.09`	`lofi-rev`	`mitcheloc, it seems to be choppy when it first starts, things like switching between desktops seems to clear it up`
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`19:52.43`	`lofi-rev`	`mitcheloc, anyway to tell if it is related to IAX or if it is something like the soundcard interaction?`
`19:53.02`	`mitcheloc`	`i don't know linux that indepth to help you out on this very well`
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`19:54.01`	`lofi-rev`	`mitcheloc, ok, thanks for tryings`
`19:55.50`	`mitcheloc`	`iCEBrkr: when i was telling you about my zaptel channels, my point was, theres 24 that come in, so you have to have the right ones that your company sends the signal down, i mean, in my case i don't have a full T1 either though with a pri, so it's different`
`19:56.41`	`iCEBrkr`	`There's 23 usable channels, the 24th being the D-channel for signalling`
`19:56.54`	`mitcheloc`	`right, my wording wasn't very good`
`19:57.10`	`mitcheloc`	`but you have a full t1 right? not a partial?`
`19:57.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`The docs that came with the card say to: Dial(Zap/g1/${EXTEN})`
`19:57.37`	`iCEBrkr`	`Yea, it's a full T1`
`19:57.47`	`asteriskmonkey`	`noone? anyone know why an iaxy works calling out , yet inbound the nobody can hear each other?`
`19:58.02`	`rob0`	`asteriskmonkey: ear wax ;)`
`19:59.04`	`mitcheloc`	`iCEBrkr: exten => 911, 1, Dial(Zap/g2/911), yes thats how you do it`
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`19:59.16`	`mitcheloc`	`you assigned the groups in zapata.conf right?`
`19:59.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`yup`
`19:59.36`	`iCEBrkr`	`maybe I'm not able to dial LD on this thing? LOL`
`19:59.46`	`asteriskmonkey`	`rob0: seriously this is recent after the 1.0.9 to the 1.2 upgrade`
`19:59.47`	`CunningPike`	`Quick question about System()`
`19:59.59`	`mitcheloc`	`who knows`
`20:00.42`	`CunningPike`	`System(ls /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/call-processors/${PHRASEID}.*) works under 1.0.9 but under 1.2.1 it always jumps to +101`
`20:00.47`	`rob0`	`sorry, I couldn't resist`
`20:01.31`	`CunningPike`	`${SYSTEMSTATUS} returns APPERROR`
`20:01.57`	`Rhiliam`	`Is there a way to increase the number of rings before going to voicemail? Using X-Lite as the client phone.`
`20:03.36`	`CunningPike`	`Rhiliam: Dial(whatever,n) sets the number of seconds it will ring for to n`
`20:04.09`	`CunningPike`	`US ring cadence is 6 seconds, so multiply the number of rings you want by 6`
`20:04.15`	`CunningPike`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:04.20`	`lofi-rev`	`CunningPike, is Dial(extension,n) newer or older syntax than Dial(extension\|n) ?`
`20:04.28`	`Rhiliam`	`thz`
`20:04.30`	`CunningPike`	`Same same`
`20:04.38`	`CunningPike`	`AFAIK`
`20:05.21`	`iCEBrkr`	`Whacked.`
`20:05.34`	`CunningPike`	`I've been using Dial(x,y) since I started on 1.0.7`
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`20:05.52`	`twisted[asteria]`	`isn't a Pike a fish?`
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`20:06.00`	`CunningPike`	`It is`
`20:06.03`	`CunningPike`	`I am ;)`
`20:06.05`	`twisted[asteria]`	`thought so`
`20:06.11`	`cypromis`	`blub`
`20:06.30`	`CunningPike`	`So, no-one has any thoughts on my System() problem?`
`20:06.46`	`Corydon-w`	`Comma syntax is actually newer`
`20:07.04`	`lofi-rev`	`Corydon-w, does that mean \| is deprecated?`
`20:07.07`	`iCEBrkr`	`Oooooooooooooo`
`20:07.11`	`iCEBrkr`	`ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh`
`20:07.12`	`iCEBrkr`	`https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=598126&native_or_pdf=pdf`
`20:07.35`	`lofi-rev`	`CunningPike, does the call actually get made? If you call a command with no arguments does it make a difference?`
`20:07.40`	`Corydon-w`	`No, the comma is syntactic sugar, as Mark likes to say`
`20:07.49`	`lofi-rev`	`Corydon-w, sweet!`
`20:07.52`	`Corydon-w`	`Commas are translated into pipes during load`
`20:07.57`	`brad_mssw`	`anyone else notice AEL is a bit buggy ?`
`20:08.07`	`Corydon-w`	`If you do a 'show dialplan' you'd notice that`
`20:08.24`	`Corydon-w`	`brad_mssw: anyone else notice AEL is marked experimental?`
`20:09.23`	`brad_mssw`	`Corydon-w: where?`
`20:09.31`	`brad_mssw`	`Corydon-w: http://voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+AEL doesn't mention it`
`20:09.45`	`Corydon-w`	`Oh, so the Wiki is now the official documentation?`
`20:09.51`	`Corydon-w`	`Hang on, I'll change it`
`20:10.08`	`brad_mssw`	`Corydon-w: didn't know there was 'official documentation' anywhere ... everything I see is half-done`
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`20:10.46`	`Darwin35`	`there is a bug in realtime voice mail`
`20:10.49`	`Corydon-w`	`Documentation is included in the source`
`20:10.50`	`Darwin35`	`1.2.1`
`20:10.57`	`Corydon-w`	`Darwin35: already fixed`
`20:11.09`	`Corydon-w`	`Been fixed, for about a week`
`20:11.15`	`brad_mssw`	`Corydon-w: if you're updating the wiki, should probably mention in there that every '}' must be terminated by a ';' .... and if you have a case statement, even if falling through, it must not be blank, or it will error out`
`20:11.42`	`Corydon-w`	`brad_mssw: that's the nice thing about a Wiki... ANYBODY can edit it (including you)`
`20:11.45`	`brad_mssw`	`Corydon-w: and should probably also mention if you put a tag for a goto statement (say at the end of a macro named end:), you must have some command after that`
`20:11.48`	`CunningPike`	`Rats - System() is failing for everything - grrrr`
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`20:13.22`	`gambolputty`	`AEL works fine for me so far`
`20:13.38`	`gambolputty`	`It has a unique syntax`
`20:13.45`	`gambolputty`	`but apart from that I figured it out`
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`20:14.47`	`CunningPike`	`OK - why am I getting APPERROR every time I use System() under 1.2.1? Same syntax works in 1.0.9`
`20:16.06`	`brad_mssw`	`gambolputty: there's definitely some bugs here and there ... all workaroundable, obviously`
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`20:22.19`	`Blackthorn`	`Hello. I have set my phone to use g726-40 codec in my phone and turned off the ability to use ulaw. The * server tells me it can't negoate the codec. but in my sip.conf file i have disallow=all allow=g726 and allow-ulaw. Am i missing something?`
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`20:25.05`	`myke420247`	`is that a licensed codec?`
`20:25.16`	`asteriskmonkey`	`if you download from branches are you getting 1.2.1?`
`20:27.22`	`myke420247`	`my voip provider is suggesting i use sip instead of iax for the asterisk-asterik connection, his reasoning is that sip can be handed off directly to the server involved in each call`
`20:27.40`	`myke420247`	`is this a "best practice"? are other ppl here using sip rather than iax to conenct to their upstream voip provider?`
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`20:28.05`	`Seldon1975`	`hi all, my SIP phones occasionally get digitized cross-talk from the Analog lines going into my TDM2412E!? how is this possible? and how can it be prevented?`
`20:29.45`	`docelm0`	`use twisted pair`
`20:29.58`	`docelm0`	`:)`
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`20:31.00`	`kpettit`	`Is there any TTS type stuff that works with Asterisk?`
`20:31.07`	`asteriskmonkey`	`yes`
`20:31.14`	`Juxt`	`hello everyone`
`20:31.14`	`asteriskmonkey`	`kpettit: use festival`
`20:31.22`	`fugitivo`	`kpettit: www.cepstral.com`
`20:31.36`	`Juxt`	`i have a bunch of sipura 2100 and they seem to not correctly respond to progressinband=always`
`20:31.52`	`kpettit`	`cool, thanks asteriskmonkey, fugitivo`
`20:32.59`	`Blackthorn`	`it is not the licensed g729 codec. I am not on 1.2.1 branch. i'm on the last cvs branch.`
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`20:37.54`	`asteriskmonkey`	`can i use trhe digium bug tracker to add a feature request to asterisk or do i put that somewhere else?`
`20:38.11`	`azzie`	`you can`
`20:38.22`	`businesstsi`	`What feature are you looking to add?`
`20:38.27`	`azzie`	`but don't be surprised if they just close it with some fancy comment :-)`
`20:39.00`	`asteriskmonkey`	`realtime sip and iax/iax2 latency status.. would be nice if it was spooled to a proc for making programs aware of bad latency and notification`
`20:39.24`	`fugitivo`	`realtime should be removed...`
`20:40.01`	`asteriskmonkey`	`fugitivo i mean realtime not as an extension but as you dont have to go into asterisk to check.. its spooled to the /proc/yadda`
`20:40.26`	`fugitivo`	`oh :)`
`20:40.36`	`businesstsi`	`I thought that latency issues were usually related to idiot customers or residential internet access issues`
`20:40.58`	`businesstsi`	`are you using asterisk in such an environment?`
`20:42.00`	`asteriskmonkey`	`yes`
`20:42.06`	`asteriskmonkey`	`well size up your like vonage`
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`20:42.31`	`asteriskmonkey`	`would be nice to pop a message to someone whos latency is shit and there wondering why there having voice isses :P tell em to turn of downloads automatically :D`
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`20:43.31`	`businesstsi`	`here's an idea: require your customers to plug in their ata adapter directly into their able/dsl modem, then their firewalls behind that`
`20:43.50`	`businesstsi`	`and set the priority of packets on the ata adapter to process voip packets first`
`20:43.53`	`fugitivo`	`not a good idea...`
`20:44.12`	`fugitivo`	`changing customer's network design`
`20:44.21`	`iCEBrkr`	`Dial) damnit!`
`20:44.30`	`businesstsi`	`this way downloads might not interfere with voip quality`
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`20:45.11`	`businesstsi`	`well, vonage is targeting the consumer market. Most people don't have much of a network at home.`
`20:45.29`	`businesstsi`	`And if they know what they're doing, they're probably not using vonage anyways`
`20:45.30`	`asteriskmonkey`	`well or even business with remote users`
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`20:45.43`	`asteriskmonkey`	`or could be used if you have multiply long distance iax trunks`
`20:45.50`	`asteriskmonkey`	`if one goes shitty you can reroute :)`
`20:45.55`	`Jick`	`hey guys`
`20:46.35`	`businesstsi`	`I like the QOS idea though - I think that it would help TREMENDOUSLY in retaining customers`
`20:47.16`	`businesstsi`	`It would be nice to be able to call the customer first, before they get fed up and call your cust svc dept screaming`
`20:47.36`	`themikester60`	`Have any of you configured QOS before? I havn't attempted it yet but from the research I've done it would seem using iptables would be the route to go`
`20:48.23`	`businesstsi`	`sorry, I meant QOS = quality of service`
`20:48.32`	`businesstsi`	`I haven't used QOS`
`20:48.47`	`themikester60`	`yea sorry, thats what I meant`
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`20:49.11`	`themikester60`	`I meant to say "have you ever configured your asterisk server to utilize QOS functionality"`
`20:49.11`	`Jick`	`I've started an asterisk install on Fedora Core 4 following a guide (http://blog.soolid.it/?p=16), but I've run into some trouble and would like someone to take a look at the howto and tell me the significance of a step...`
`20:49.21`	`Jick`	`it has to do with linking to the kernel source`
`20:49.23`	`businesstsi`	`DO NOT USE FC4 WITH ASTERISK`
`20:49.24`	`iCEBrkr`	`Jick: Stop right now..`
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`20:49.43`	`Jick`	`no FC4? why not?`
`20:49.48`	`iCEBrkr`	`Matter of fact, don't use FC4 for anything`
`20:49.51`	`fugitivo`	`Jick: we're not going to take a look at that howto, tell us your problem and maybe we'll help you`
`20:49.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`Jick: Use FC3`
`20:50.00`	`fugitivo`	`hell, don't use FC :)`
`20:50.07`	`iCEBrkr`	`fugitivo: :P FC3 is fine`
`20:50.13`	`businesstsi`	`Fedora puts their libraries all over the place`
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`20:50.18`	`Supaplex`	`let's start a distro war!`
`20:50.28`	`iCEBrkr`	`FC3 works just fine. FC4 is fizzucked`
`20:50.34`	`businesstsi`	`So when you try to compile anything`
`20:50.34`	`fugitivo`	`i never liked redhat or fedora for compiling...`
`20:50.38`	`Alric`	`CentOS! :)`
`20:50.39`	`Jick`	`Argh....`
`20:50.40`	`businesstsi`	`it gets all screwed up`
`20:50.58`	`fugitivo`	`Alric: that's redhat based`
`20:51.00`	`iCEBrkr`	`businesstsi: ./configure --prefix=/usr <-- that's your friend`
`20:51.11`	`Alric`	`fugitivo: Its redhat EL without the branding :)`
`20:51.16`	`Jick`	`okay guys... i want a community response on this... i'm desperate and have the resources available to try multiple things at once...`
`20:51.23`	`Jick`	`i'm at work right now trying to set this up`
`20:51.27`	`fugitivo`	`Jick: tell us your problem`
`20:51.30`	`iCEBrkr`	`Jick: FC3 if you're gonna use Fedora`
`20:51.31`	`businesstsi`	`Don't get me wrong, it will work - I have 2 asterisk boxes right next to me running on FC4 just fine, but it was like WWIII getting them up and running`
`20:51.32`	`Jick`	`i have three machines here i can try to install asterisk on`
`20:51.57`	`businesstsi`	`I know about the ./configure - that's the only way I got it running`
`20:51.59`	`fugitivo`	`Jick: my advice, get the sources, decompress and compile, it's easy`
`20:52.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`businesstsi: yup yup`
`20:52.06`	`myke420247`	`slackware!`
`20:52.12`	`Alric`	`Gah`
`20:52.20`	`Jick`	`one is running FC4 right now, one has CentOS on it, and the other is blank, but i have a debian, ubuntu, and mandrake disc lying around i can use to install an OS on it with...`
`20:52.25`	`*** join/#asterisk santiago (n=santiago@208.195.215.4)`
`20:52.38`	`themikester60`	`fugitivo, I am working with Jick currently (as in I'm in the same room), we've tried multiple distros and have done exactly what you just said, but for one reason or the other all have failed, so now we're distro hunting`
`20:52.48`	`businesstsi`	`they just put everthing else (eg. apache, mysql, etc..) in the wrong places`
`20:52.55`	`businesstsi`	`and it screws up everything`
`20:53.06`	`fugitivo`	`themikester60: ok, gentoo and lfs, never had problems compiling`
`20:53.27`	`Jick`	`so is CentOS more friendly in that regard? does CentOS have a package manager or is it just easier to compile the sources on?`
`20:53.34`	`businesstsi`	`Honestly, most of the people I've talked to prefer freebsd`
`20:53.35`	`themikester60`	`fugitivo, I havn't tried gentoo or lfs yet, and they are on the list of distros to try but they're quite low.. you see we're trying to go towards a more mainstream distro that doesn't require as much work`
`20:53.47`	`twisted[asteria]`	`gentoo!!!!`
`20:53.47`	`businesstsi`	`But I'm not a big gui guy`
`20:54.09`	`Blackthorn`	`in my phone it shows g.726 -16 -24 -32 -40. Asterisk only shows an allow g.726. Does this cover all of the g726 protocols?`
`20:54.18`	`fugitivo`	`themikester60: you're trying with FC4 with no luck, so wich distro gives you more work? ;)`
`20:54.25`	`twisted[asteria]`	`g726 is a protocol?`
`20:54.26`	`twisted[asteria]`	`wow, neat.`
`20:54.32`	`businesstsi`	`umm, yeah`
`20:54.34`	`twisted[asteria]`	`i thought g726 was a codec`
`20:54.44`	`Blackthorn`	`codec.. just typo you know what i mean.`
`20:54.45`	`themikester60`	`fugitivo, I know you're right in that aspect, its just we kinda have a deadline so all that compiling with gentoo isn't going to help things..`
`20:54.46`	`Alric`	`Last I heard, we did the -32 variant...`
`20:54.50`	`*** join/#asterisk Ateboy (n=ugob@n250.camo-route.com)`
`20:54.53`	`Alric`	`That could have changed by now though.`
`20:55.04`	`businesstsi`	`my bad, you're right. But I think that you're better off using gsm`
`20:55.07`	`fugitivo`	`themikester60: try slackware`
`20:55.09`	`wunderkin`	`umm all of what compiling`
`20:55.12`	`myke420247`	`slackware++`
`20:55.17`	`twisted[asteria]`	`gento++++`
`20:55.21`	`twisted[asteria]`	`gentoo, too.`
`20:55.21`	`Blackthorn`	`did you do allow=g.726-32 or just allow=g.726 ?`
`20:55.22`	`fugitivo`	`lfs+++++++++++`
`20:55.32`	`themikester60`	`fugitivo, we currently have a running slackware distro, should've mentioned this. We're trying to migrate away from slackware`
`20:55.36`	`mog_work`	`ew`
`20:55.37`	`mog_work`	`ew`
`20:55.39`	`mog_work`	`debain`
`20:55.45`	`twisted[asteria]`	`yeah, debian is ew`
`20:55.45`	`mog_work`	`its all you neeed`
`20:55.52`	`mog_work`	`stfu twisted`
`20:55.55`	`fugitivo`	`themikester60: ok, maybe you need to read more about linux? :)`
`20:55.56`	`Alric`	`Debian - If you love Ancient Packages made back when Dinosaurs roamed the earth...`
`20:55.58`	`businesstsi`	`have you tried freebsd?`
`20:56.07`	`mog_work`	`debian packages are up to date`
`20:56.07`	`Jick`	`so guys, off the top of your heads, can you all recommend a guide we can follow for the CentOS-4.2 server install?`
`20:56.09`	`mog_work`	`just not in stable`
`20:56.11`	`twisted[asteria]`	`mog_work, hahahaha`
`20:56.15`	`Alric`	`So whats the point?`
`20:56.17`	`themikester60`	`fugitivo, ...um.. what are you implying?`
`20:56.18`	`myke420247`	`lfs is a bit much, although, if you're going gentoo you might as well go lfs`
`20:56.21`	`mog_work`	`run testing or unstable`
`20:56.29`	`twisted[asteria]`	`debian puts things where they don't belong`
`20:56.36`	`mog_work`	`such as?`
`20:56.37`	`Alric`	`So then your "stability" argument for running debian just goes out the window?`
`20:56.40`	`twisted[asteria]`	`everything`
`20:56.41`	`myke420247`	`asterisk on freebsd isn't as stable as on linux`
`20:56.51`	`myke420247`	`i've had weird probs on my fbsd asterisk server`
`20:56.54`	`mog_work`	`umm just because its marked testing doesnt meen its unstable`
`20:56.57`	`Alric`	`That everything is "tested and plays nice together", except unstable doesn't get that attention?`
`20:56.59`	`asteriskmonkey`	`anyone have a pri that wants to try dundi out?`
`20:57.02`	`mog_work`	`debian just has a higher standard then others`
`20:57.05`	`twisted[asteria]`	`lol`
`20:57.08`	`anthm`	`go figure, os holy war/pissing contest`
`20:57.14`	`fugitivo`	`themikester60: that if you have problems with so many distros, maybe it's not distro's fault`
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`20:57.25`	`Jick`	`we spend a good day and a half working on a debian install trying to get this shit working`
`20:57.35`	`wunderkin`	`anthmOS`
`20:57.38`	`mog_work`	`lol`
`20:57.44`	`twisted[asteria]`	`Jick, i always have to muck with debian for long time to make things work right on it`
`20:57.57`	`twisted[asteria]`	`gentoo is simple. 30 minutes, installed, and runing`
`20:57.59`	`Jick`	`when compiling zaptel on Debian, we'd get 200kb of error message output`
`20:58.00`	`businesstsi`	`I disagree, BSD's (openbsd and freebsd) is way more reliable than linux any day`
`20:58.05`	`myke420247`	`why are you migrating off slackware?`
`20:58.09`	`themikester60`	`fugitivo, I see what you're saying, and I will admit I'm not quite a linux expert but I do know what I'm doing when it comes to compiling packages from source. Perhaps it is my fault, but fact of the matter is I'm following the same methods I see suggested in multiple places and it still fails for one reason or the other`
`20:58.10`	`denon`	`oh brother, another holy war`
`20:58.15`	`asteriskmonkey`	`twisted[asteria]`
`20:58.23`	`twisted[asteria]`	`asteriskmonkey`
`20:58.26`	`mog_work`	`dont blame debian for your nubness....`
`20:58.26`	`myke420247`	`businesstsi, in the specific case of asterisk, it's better tested and mroe stable on linux`
`20:58.37`	`twisted[asteria]`	`mog_work, don't blame gentoo because it's over your head`
`20:58.38`	`twisted[asteria]`	`;)`
`20:58.41`	`mog_work`	`lol`
`20:58.48`	`mog_work`	`i used to be gentoo nazi twisted`
`20:58.56`	`mog_work`	`and like it as its more configurable`
`20:58.57`	`twisted[asteria]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:59.03`	`mog_work`	`but i am tired of waiting to compile things`
`20:59.09`	`twisted[asteria]`	`so use distfiles`
`20:59.13`	`twisted[asteria]`	`and ebuilds`
`20:59.20`	`mog_work`	`but then why nto just run debian?`
`20:59.27`	`asteriskmonkey`	`twisted[asteria] : i upgraded from 1.0.9 to 1.2.1 last night :) some of my iaxys users are complaining about the far end not being able to hear them when the far end calls... but no worries when iaxy initiats the call , have you seen this bug before?`
`20:59.29`	`fugitivo`	`gentoo is great`
`20:59.29`	`mog_work`	`the only advantage is the useflags`
`20:59.34`	`mog_work`	`you dont get those in bins`
`20:59.35`	`fugitivo`	`but`
`20:59.37`	`twisted[asteria]`	`asteriskmonkey, check the bugtracker`
`20:59.40`	`fugitivo`	`now i'm a lfs fan`
`20:59.59`	`asteriskmonkey`	`twisted[asteria]: did ... nothing there just something on trunking`
`21:00.16`	`myke420247`	`lfs is a bit overkill isn't it?`
`21:00.31`	`mog_work`	`agreed myke420247`
`21:00.44`	`fugitivo`	`you only need one installation`
`21:00.50`	`fugitivo`	`then you do what you want with it`
`21:00.54`	`Jick`	`so guys...`
`21:00.56`	`asteriskmonkey`	`i wont be happy until i can fit my linux and asterisk on a 128meg stick of bootable ram :D`
`21:01.25`	`fugitivo`	`asteriskmonkey: try lfs`
`21:01.25`	`myke420247`	`i used lfs to make a X term distro that ran on a 486/25 with 12M and a 128M hd, but normally i wouldn't need that much customization`
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`21:01.28`	`businesstsi`	`you can put asterisk onto a linksys router - don't know how well it works though`
`21:01.31`	`slak-`	`hey`
`21:01.35`	`slak-`	`.q`
`21:01.44`	`Jick`	`CentOS... fresh install, do a yum update, wget the asterisk/zaptel/libpri sources, configure, compile, make install... works well?`
`21:01.53`	`asteriskmonkey`	`hey id be up for learning that :) that would rock putting asterisk on a router :D`
`21:01.55`	`slak-`	`hi i connect an xten-lite client and all of a sudden my meetme and calls sound like darth vader`
`21:01.55`	`slak-`	`heh`
`21:01.55`	`Alric`	`get the gcc stuff too`
`21:01.56`	`fugitivo`	`asteriskmonkey: i have lfs+asterisk+postgresql+apache+php (and a lot of libraries) in 200mb (compact flash)`
`21:01.57`	`slak-`	`wtf`
`21:02.03`	`slak-`	`real raspy voices`
`21:02.06`	`Alric`	`Unless you did more than a minimal install, that is.`
`21:02.18`	`asteriskmonkey`	`fugitvo: nice :D`
`21:02.20`	`slak-`	`whats up with that anyone know`
`21:02.22`	`Jick`	`Alric: is it fine to use yum to get gcc and make?`
`21:02.32`	`Alric`	`Works fine for me...`
`21:02.34`	`asteriskmonkey`	`fugitvo: 1.2.1?`
`21:02.35`	`slak-`	`what causes choppy and darth vader voice`
`21:02.40`	`*** part/#asterisk franck (n=franck@tikiwiki/franck)`
`21:02.47`	`fugitivo`	`asteriskmonkey: yes`
`21:02.55`	`businesstsi`	`asteriskmonkey: knock yourself out http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000640041977/`
`21:03.03`	`fugitivo`	`slak-: network problems or high cpu usage?`
`21:03.07`	`slak-`	`no`
`21:03.40`	`fugitivo`	`slak-: iax or sip?`
`21:03.58`	`asteriskmonkey`	`fugitivo: may i have a copy :) :)`
`21:04.05`	`slak-`	`sip`
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`21:04.26`	`uchman`	`Is there a way to redirect a call with a key kombination on a ip-phone with just a numpad?`
`21:04.33`	`uchman`	`like #8#SIPNUM# or something?`
`21:04.43`	`Ateboy`	`hi... new here... is sangoma hardware well supported? I can get it a bit cheaper than digium`
`21:04.53`	`Jick`	`Alric, is it cool if I send you a quick /msg?`
`21:04.57`	`Alric`	`Sure`
`21:05.03`	`fugitivo`	`slak-: what codec?`
`21:05.42`	`mog_work`	`Ateboy: all though i am far from impartial digium hw is better supported for asterisk`
`21:05.53`	`mog_work`	`but /me works in digium support`
`21:05.59`	`slak-`	`fugitivo g711`
`21:05.59`	`Ateboy`	`ok`
`21:06.08`	`mog_work`	`but i can say this`
`21:06.10`	`fugitivo`	`slak-: what devices?`
`21:06.15`	`Ateboy`	`it is only ~ 20$ difference for a 2 fxo card`
`21:06.17`	`mog_work`	`we have gotten quite a few calls from people with sangoma cards`
`21:06.22`	`slak-`	`everything is sipura ATA's`
`21:06.25`	`mog_work`	`telling us sangoma told them to call here`
`21:06.32`	`Ateboy`	`lol`
`21:06.34`	`Ateboy`	`ok`
`21:06.48`	`slak-`	`and one xten-lite`
`21:06.56`	`mog_work`	`dont think i have ever sent someone to sangoma for support with asterisk`
`21:07.12`	`slak-`	`anyone experience darthvader voice disturbances`
`21:07.14`	`slak-`	`with meetme`
`21:07.18`	`fugitivo`	`oh`
`21:07.19`	`slak-`	`and sip calls`
`21:07.23`	`fugitivo`	`you didn't say meetme`
`21:07.30`	`fugitivo`	`what version?`
`21:07.33`	`Ateboy`	`are sangoma cards more difficult to configure or get detected?`
`21:07.39`	`slak-`	`it happens between xten-lite <-> regular sip phone calls too`
`21:07.40`	`slak-`	`1.2.1`
`21:07.43`	`Seldon1975`	`slak-: i get crosstalk`
`21:07.52`	`Seldon1975`	`slak-: yes`
`21:07.57`	`Seldon1975`	`slak-: same here`
`21:08.02`	`uchman`	`And is there a way to within a queue enable that if you press # you efter voicemail?`
`21:08.06`	`fugitivo`	`slak-: if you are the only person in the meetme, the moh is choppy too?`
`21:08.13`	`slak-`	`no`
`21:08.14`	`gambolputty`	`I get messages that say "unable to request echo training" for a T1 card and the TDM2400P. Any ideas on how to fix this?`
`21:08.24`	`slak-`	`this happens when an xtenlite usewr registers`
`21:08.32`	`mog_work`	`not really sangoma cards are just about the same`
`21:08.34`	`mog_work`	`Ateboy:`
`21:08.47`	`mog_work`	`you have to do a few more steps but they are trivial`
`21:09.10`	`Ateboy`	`mog_work: ok, only the brand name differs...?`
`21:09.26`	`mog_work`	`not so much`
`21:09.31`	`Ateboy`	`mog_work: the electronics are the same?`
`21:09.36`	`mog_work`	`sangoma piggybacks off of zaptel drivers right now`
`21:09.48`	`mog_work`	`nah cards are pretty different`
`21:09.52`	`slak-`	`Seldon1975 whats going on?`
`21:09.55`	`Ateboy`	`mog_work: and zaptel does what exactly?`
`21:10.08`	`mog_work`	`is the interface for the cards to be seen in linux`
`21:10.11`	`slak-`	`what causes that damn darthvader voice`
`21:10.11`	`slak-`	`heh`
`21:10.21`	`mog_work`	`and talks to chan_zap so they can be use in asterisk`
`21:10.22`	`Ateboy`	`mog_work: I see`
`21:10.39`	`mog_work`	`and when you buy digium you support asterisk dev. ^_^`
`21:10.43`	`mog_work`	`ie keep a roof over my head`
`21:10.46`	`mog_work`	`so i can do cool things`
`21:10.56`	`Ateboy`	`well, I'll put the extra 20$`
`21:11.03`	`wunderkin`	`like eat`
`21:11.10`	`mog_work`	`yeah eating is great`
`21:11.15`	`Ateboy`	`like what else?`
`21:11.17`	`Ateboy`	`work ;)?`
`21:11.18`	`mog_work`	`and coding asterisk-xmpp is fun too`
`21:11.27`	`mog_work`	`paying for my tution bills is fun too`
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`21:13.40`	`businesstsi`	`where did/do you go to school?`
`21:13.50`	`businesstsi`	`(mog_work)`
`21:14.39`	`slak-`	`dudes`
`21:14.39`	`slak-`	`what the hell is going on with meetme 1.2.1`
`21:14.39`	`mog_work`	`i go to uah`
`21:14.39`	`slak-`	`and that darth vader voice`
`21:14.40`	`mog_work`	`state school in huntsville`
`21:14.43`	`mog_work`	`just a few miles from digium`
`21:14.50`	`businesstsi`	`right on, went to space camp there when i was a kid`
`21:14.52`	`rob0`	`I think you're wasting your time. What can they teach you?`
`21:15.14`	`mog_work`	`they can give me a 20,000 sheet of paper`
`21:15.18`	`mog_work`	`i dont have many of those`
`21:15.34`	`rob0`	`but you're already working for Digium, right?`
`21:15.34`	`businesstsi`	`I subscribe to higher education. Those who knock it usually don't have it.`
`21:15.48`	`mog_work`	`yeah rob0`
`21:15.54`	`businesstsi`	`actually cost me about $50L`
`21:15.59`	`businesstsi`	`$50K`
`21:16.00`	`mog_work`	`yikes`
`21:16.04`	`rob0`	`I work with lots of people who have degrees and don't know doodly-squat`
`21:16.08`	`businesstsi`	`UCLA`
`21:16.17`	`mog_work`	`yeah lots of people with degrees are dumb`
`21:16.31`	`businesstsi`	`agreed, depends what you do with it. But you always have it.`
`21:16.39`	`businesstsi`	`Helps when you meet with clients`
`21:16.40`	`mog_work`	`exactly my point businesstsi`
`21:16.47`	`mog_work`	`if i have it its a safety net`
`21:16.59`	`slak-`	`how do i disconnect a sip peer in the cli`
`21:17.08`	`mog_work`	`soft hangup`
`21:17.10`	`businesstsi`	`I worked for a CLEC for about 6-7 years before going back to school.`
`21:17.38`	`businesstsi`	`So I can see before and after differences.`
`21:18.01`	`mog_work`	`i also would have a hard time telling my kids you need to go to college if i didnt do it`
`21:18.06`	`rob0`	`haha`
`21:18.18`	`*** join/#asterisk shido6 (n=shido6@d221-68-216.commercial.cgocable.net)`
`21:18.35`	`businesstsi`	`I wouldn't insult the people who didn't go to college`
`21:18.44`	`businesstsi`	`That's not really cool`
`21:18.46`	`mog_work`	`neither would I`
`21:18.53`	`mog_work`	`but I dont want to be a hypocrit`
`21:19.02`	`rob0`	`businesstsi: but you insult people who knock it :)`
`21:19.33`	`rob0`	`oh well, I have to go afk, later all`
`21:19.38`	`mog_work`	`bye rob0`
`21:20.06`	`businesstsi`	`rob0: actually what I said was "I subscribe to a higher education"`
`21:20.17`	`rob0`	`I know`
`21:20.19`	`rob0`	`sorry`
`21:20.23`	`businesstsi`	`means I believe in it`
`21:20.33`	`businesstsi`	`But I also believe that it's not for everyone`
`21:20.35`	`rob0`	`bye again :)`
`21:20.38`	`slak-`	`whats wrong with MeetMe in 1.2.1`
`21:20.46`	`businesstsi`	`bye then`
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`21:24.38`	`truescot`	`hey all, has anyone tried this as a skype solution for asterisk???`
`21:24.39`	`truescot`	`http://www.yappernut.com/def/en/ybTechnology.htm`
`21:26.12`	`truescot`	`anyone actually here?`
`21:27.08`	`*** join/#asterisk backblue (n=moo@87-196-34-143.net.novis.pt)`
`21:27.18`	`Seldon1975`	`i'm not`
`21:27.32`	`uchman`	`skype </3 :(`
`21:27.33`	`*** join/#asterisk ardor (n=vircuser@las-cust-66.18.135.148.mpowercom.net)`
`21:28.51`	`fugitivo`	`skype is evil`
`21:29.07`	`gambolputty`	`skype is proprietary`
`21:29.10`	`fugitivo`	`i don't want that in my network`
`21:29.36`	`*** join/#asterisk brunido (n=d4rkst4r@ip-41-196.sn1.eutelia.it)`
`21:29.47`	`brunido`	`good evening`
`21:30.03`	`brunido`	`someone can give me an hint?`
`21:30.05`	`mog_work`	`why use skype when you can use gtalk`
`21:30.20`	`mog_work`	`give you a hint brunido`
`21:30.41`	`brunido`	`hi mog_work`
`21:30.49`	`fugitivo`	`it seems not all people is aware of this`
`21:30.51`	`fugitivo`	`http://www.ossir.org/windows/supports/2005/2005-11-07/EADS-CCR_Fabrice_Skype.pdf`
`21:31.25`	`brunido`	`i'man asterisk newbie and need some advices on asterisk behind a pbx`
`21:31.31`	`truescot`	`so many ppl using skype thats why, its fine for tech ppl to use the best thing out but everyone else works in fads`
`21:31.37`	`truescot`	`and are usually slow to change`
`21:31.41`	`mog_work`	`okay whats question brunido`
`21:31.53`	`fugitivo`	`truescot: read that pdf`
`21:31.57`	`mog_work`	`but skype isnt even that big of a fad truescot`
`21:32.06`	`mog_work`	`i mean aim has that many users`
`21:32.08`	`mog_work`	`all support voip`
`21:32.13`	`mog_work`	`does that mean we need chan_aim`
`21:32.26`	`truescot`	`yea but skype is known amongst many`
`21:32.35`	`truescot`	`so it will be the first thing they try out`
`21:32.45`	`Nivex`	`If not gtalk then Gizmo (http://www.gizmoproject.com/). Uses SIP.`
`21:32.55`	`fugitivo`	`gizmo is nice`
`21:32.59`	`truescot`	`its like the ipod, there where better products then the ipod out way before hand but high recognition wins`
`21:32.59`	`mog_work`	`im not following your logic, only reason to do skype is their user base`
`21:33.09`	`Nivex`	`truescot: then it is time to educate people to the alternatives.`
`21:33.15`	`docelm0`	`anyone know where I can get a lebanon DID?`
`21:33.21`	`Nivex`	`truescot: because by your argument everyone should be running Windows.`
`21:33.49`	`truescot`	`its not the way i would like it but its most of the way it is`
`21:34.08`	`Remosi`	`hmm`
`21:34.13`	`Remosi`	`I'm working on chan_xmpp`
`21:34.22`	`Remosi`	`which lets google talk users call into an asterisk box`
`21:34.25`	`brunido`	`i've setup a bristuffed- asterisk@home linux box, with 1 passive ISDN card (HCF)`
`21:34.51`	`mog_work`	`remosi`
`21:34.54`	`fugitivo`	`who wants to join me for the anti@home movement?`
`21:34.58`	`brunido`	`now I need to know how to connect that box to a digital extension of a Bosch/Tenovis Integral PBX`
`21:35.07`	`docelm0`	`fugitivo, sign me up`
`21:35.12`	`fugitivo`	`ok`
`21:35.17`	`fugitivo`	`who else?`
`21:35.31`	`docelm0`	`Im tired of supporting it in here.. When it sucks sooooo bad..`
`21:36.01`	`truescot`	`it doesnt suck soo bad if u r willing to invest a wee bit of time in it`
`21:36.27`	`docelm0`	`ok dude.. Your like the fedex guy.. Your always wrong..`
`21:36.34`	`truescot`	`t`
`21:36.54`	`truescot`	`actually u r right`
`21:37.03`	`Nivex`	`truescot: "You must be the change you wish to see in the world."`
`21:37.05`	`fugitivo`	`docelm0: it's more work than a normal distro`
`21:37.08`	`truescot`	`its a hell of a lot of time, best starting from scratch`
`21:37.14`	`*** join/#asterisk Atebo1 (n=ugob@n250.camo-route.com)`
`21:37.30`	`brunido`	`mog_work, r u there? can you gibe me some hint on * -> Bosch Integral?`
`21:37.42`	`docelm0`	`fugitivo, ohh I know.. I used it one then formatted cause it was soooo lame.`
`21:37.58`	`mog_work`	`whats that brunido`
`21:38.07`	`Jick`	`guys, anyone know what the package name in CentOS's yum for the kernel sources?`
`21:38.13`	`fugitivo`	`i never used it, but i see more people here asking for help and using asterisk@home than any other distro`
`21:38.15`	`brunido`	`Bosch Integral PBX`
`21:38.33`	`mog_work`	`whats it use?`
`21:38.45`	`fugitivo`	`it seems that userfriendly stuff is hard to use :)`
`21:38.57`	`docelm0`	`I use CentOS across the board and works perfect.. Havent had any issues what so ever except then people change things on asterisk and I didnt know..`
`21:39.43`	`truescot`	`i wouldnt say its user friendly, and it is buggy, but its a good idea`
`21:39.55`	`truescot`	`and if that idea can be refined enuff`
`21:40.37`	`fugitivo`	`truescot: it's not a good idea because people using asterisk@home doesn't know a shit about asterisk, then come here with a lot of problems they can't solve`
`21:40.42`	`*** join/#asterisk shido6 (n=shido6@d221-68-216.commercial.cgocable.net)`
`21:42.56`	`truescot`	`isnt that the case with people starting out with asterisk as well tho, altho that being said i do think that most aah users will ask questions before reading and researching`
`21:44.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`;(`
`21:45.47`	`Atebo1`	`It would probably be hard to avoid, considering the growing interest towards asterisk and telephony`
`21:49.53`	`*** join/#asterisk darwin_35 (n=darwin35@sta-208-139-193-162.rockynet.com)`
`21:50.03`	`darwin_35`	`Dec 19 14:45:42 WARNING[536]: res_odbc.c:563 odbc_obj_connect: res_odbc: Error SQLConnect=-1 errno=1045 [MySQL][ODBC 3.51 Driver]Access denied for user 'teliax'@'localhost' (using password: YES)`
`21:50.08`	`darwin_35`	`hello all`
`21:50.27`	`darwin_35`	`I just built a box from scratck`
`21:50.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`what'cha got the ''s there for?`
`21:51.07`	`iCEBrkr`	`and test to see if that user can connect using the mysql client`
`21:51.10`	`darwin_35`	`it wont connect to mysql server`
`21:51.52`	`brunido`	`someone has skills on Bosch PBXs?`
`21:52.34`	`themikester60`	`has anyone successfully installed asterisk on centos 4.2/`
`21:52.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`darwin_35: you listening?`
`21:53.07`	`*** part/#asterisk oej (n=oej@apollo.webway.se)`
`21:53.44`	`darwin_35`	`trying I have 6 people here yelling`
`21:53.54`	`iCEBrkr`	`and test to see if that user can connect using the mysql client`
`21:54.01`	`darwin_35`	`Ice you have a min to pvt`
`21:54.16`	`darwin_35`	`I am new to mysql`
`21:54.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`mysql -u username -p`
`21:55.37`	`darwin_35`	`ok`
`21:55.55`	`darwin_35`	`mysql>`
`21:56.04`	`iCEBrkr`	`ok, so the user can login`
`21:56.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`oh fun.. ODBC on linux`
`21:56.59`	`darwin_35`	`its using localhost when it should be looking at cdb4.name.com`
`21:57.17`	`*** join/#asterisk rculp (n=rculp@66.173.240.20)`
`21:57.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`darwin_35: Yea, but it's more complex than that :-/`
`21:57.39`	`darwin_35`	`?`
`21:57.46`	`rculp`	`does asterisk play nicely with mysql (no I'm not planning on using one of those portal packages)`
`21:57.57`	`rculp`	`or would you guys just recommend using ASTDB`
`21:58.17`	`darwin_35`	`astdb I heaar sucks for real time`
`21:58.19`	`iCEBrkr`	`rculp: um, it really depends on what you're trying to do.`
`21:58.24`	`denon`	`rculp: depends how much data you want to store ..`
`21:58.30`	`darwin_35`	`I need this for realtime`
`21:58.33`	`denon`	`rculp: if you're just storing a few flags for your dialplan, definitely use astdb`
`21:58.52`	`rculp`	`I want to be able to write a custom coldfusion script`
`21:58.59`	`rculp`	`to interface with the database`
`21:59.08`	`denon`	`heh`
`21:59.12`	`rculp`	`and be able to toggle office status with a click`
`21:59.12`	`iCEBrkr`	`coldfusion Snort`
`21:59.13`	`denon`	`you should be using the manager interface`
`21:59.28`	`denon`	`abstract your pbx far, far away from anything that is Internet. :)`
`21:59.38`	`darwin_35`	`Ice any input why its not linking to the main server`
`21:59.53`	`rculp`	`cuz the internet is evil? ;)`
`22:00.06`	`denon`	`rculp: when it comes to mission-critical appliances .. uh huh`
`22:00.11`	`darwin_35`	`it need to connect the the cdb4 sever`
`22:00.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`darwin_35: you gotta create a 'DSN' in /etc/odbc.ini`
`22:00.45`	`darwin_35`	`have it`
`22:00.53`	`rculp`	`what if I'm able to block any calls from the outside to mysql access on the box except from a ssl secured intranet?`
`22:00.56`	`rculp`	`with login creds`
`22:01.06`	`rculp`	`still a negative?`
`22:01.13`	`denon`	`rculp: anything works .. mysql blows, but thats another conversation ..`
`22:01.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`darwin_35: You got the driver, server ip and database name setup in /etc/odbc.ini?`
`22:01.18`	`Jick`	`okay, CentOS question for the aficionados here...`
`22:01.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`darwin_35: from there, you use that in /etc/asterisk/res_odbc.conf`
`22:01.39`	`rculp`	`denon: so your opinion would be best to just use ASTDB`
`22:01.42`	`rculp`	`and be done with it`
`22:01.43`	`*** join/#asterisk Ariel_ (n=Ariel@dsl-20-177.cofs.net)`
`22:01.45`	`Jick`	`is it okay to install kernel-devel with yum to install the CentOS sources?`
`22:01.54`	`Jick`	`that is, with CentOS 4.2...`
`22:02.04`	`denon`	`rculp: yeah .. you're just talking a few flags right? use astdb, and use the management interface to toggle them remotely`
`22:02.34`	`rculp`	`denon: may I pm you really quickly?`
`22:02.41`	`darwin_35`	`ice pvt me I will show you`
`22:02.48`	`denon`	`only if it's your paypal email you're PM'ing me :)`
`22:03.01`	`rculp`	`hehe, it's just to ask a really quick question`
`22:03.09`	`denon`	`fine`
`22:03.10`	`rculp`	`without broadcasting it`
`22:03.11`	`rculp`	`hehe`
`22:04.25`	`brad_mssw`	`with CDR, if I get a call to ext 112, and that call is then transferred to ext 114 after 30 seconds, and the entire call length is 1:30, why do I get 2 CDR entries, one for 1:30 (incoming to ext 112), and one for 1:00 (ext 112 -> ext 114). Shouldn't there be 3 entries, incoming -> ext 112, ext 112 -> ext 114, incoming ->ext 114 ... with incoming->ext 112 terminating upon completion of transfer ??`
`22:04.27`	`*** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=joe@66.11.164.239)`
`22:04.38`	`Jick`	`have all our CentOS guys left?`
`22:04.58`	`brad_mssw`	`Jick: try in #centos ??`
`22:05.20`	`Jick`	`ahh, awesome. thanks brad`
`22:05.44`	`bsdfreak`	`heh`
`22:05.48`	`darwin_35`	`[DSNiaxfriends]`
`22:05.48`	`darwin_35`	`Driver = /usr/local/lib/libmyodbc3.so`
`22:05.49`	`darwin_35`	`Description = MySQL ODBC 3.51 Driver DSN`
`22:05.49`	`darwin_35`	`SERVER = cdb4.name.com`
`22:05.49`	`darwin_35`	`PORT = 3306`
`22:05.49`	`darwin_35`	`USER = name`
`22:05.51`	`darwin_35`	`Password = god`
`22:05.53`	`darwin_35`	`Database = asterisk`
`22:05.55`	`darwin_35`	`OPTION = 3`
`22:05.57`	`darwin_35`	`#SOCKET =`
`22:06.13`	`iCEBrkr`	`darwin_35: eeep, http://pastebin.ca next time`
`22:06.21`	`brunido`	`hey darwin_35, can you help my with * behind a pbx?`
`22:06.21`	`darwin_35`	`sorry forgot`
`22:06.44`	`iCEBrkr`	`darwin_35: Driver = MYSSQL`
`22:07.19`	`darwin_35`	`we are using odbc`
`22:07.41`	`darwin_35`	`the myssql driver had mem leak issues`
`22:07.47`	`darwin_35`	`in realtime`
`22:08.02`	`darwin_35`	`or has it been fixed`
`22:10.53`	`*** part/#asterisk rculp (n=rculp@66.173.240.20)`
`22:10.55`	`darwin_35`	`it is working on other boxes that where here befor I go there but I cant seem to get new ones to work`
`22:11.10`	`darwin_35`	`these are all lab boxes`
`22:14.16`	`*** join/#asterisk Zach^^ (n=Zachary@65.121.244.130)`
`22:15.03`	`Zach^^`	`can anyone tell me why when i place a outbound call it shows unknown name but has the number listed.... and i have in asterisk under outbound calls "companyname" <number>`
`22:15.21`	`brad_mssw`	`how do you track a transfer in CDR ?? there are 2 CDR entries for a single call, with no unique data shared`
`22:16.20`	`brad_mssw`	`Zach^^: are you just calling another local SIP extension, or are you going through your telco or voip provider ?`
`22:17.13`	`slak-`	`whats the deal with MeetMe in 1.2.1`
`22:17.19`	`slak-`	`broken darth vader sound effect`
`22:17.22`	`slak-`	`on voices`
`22:17.53`	`brad_mssw`	`slak-: eh ? you're saying you 'want' a darth vader sound effect ... or it's erroneously doing that ?`
`22:17.59`	`slak-`	`no`
`22:18.03`	`slak-`	`the conf is broken`
`22:18.08`	`slak-`	`nobody can udnerstand one another`
`22:18.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`darwin_35: I'm just telling you what I'm using.`
`22:18.20`	`Zach^^`	`brad_mssw my VOIP provider`
`22:18.22`	`brad_mssw`	`slak-: odd, got 1.2.1 here ... conferencing works`
`22:18.39`	`slak-`	`i think joining in an xten-lite client broke things`
`22:18.53`	`brad_mssw`	`Zach^^: that's your problem ... CID number can be pushed, but if you're going outside of the voip environment (e.g. your voip provider goes out on PRIs), the caller id name can't be sent`
`22:19.06`	`*** join/#asterisk osirus (i=osirus@209.107.130.201)`
`22:19.14`	`brad_mssw`	`Zach^^: callerid name is actually stored in a database that providers work off of`
`22:19.23`	`Zach^^`	`ahh okay`
`22:19.26`	`brad_mssw`	`Zach^^: you can't send it`
`22:19.58`	`*** join/#asterisk niZon (n=ilt@S0106deadbeefbeef.wp.shawcable.net)`
`22:20.06`	`brad_mssw`	`Zach^^: accudatatech.com is one such database`
`22:20.36`	`osirus`	`hey guys i noticed with the release of the new 1.2.1 code that the wildcard T100P is listed as not supported anymore`
`22:20.47`	`slak-`	`so i have port 5060 udp open..what prevents just anyone to establish a sip connection`
`22:20.49`	`slak-`	`and join my pbx`
`22:20.56`	`slak-`	`my peers dont have passwords`
`22:20.59`	`brad_mssw`	`slak-: I've never successfully used xten-lite, truthfully`
`22:21.14`	`osirus`	`does this mean the hardware wont work?`
`22:21.16`	`Zach^^`	`brad_mssw if i add my info to the database will it work?`
`22:21.20`	`*** join/#asterisk loick (n=loick@APuteaux-151-1-26-46.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`22:21.37`	`slak-`	`brad_mssw if i use a sip provider i need to open port 5060 and have asterisk listen on my external IP?`
`22:21.48`	`brad_mssw`	`Zach^^: well, you can't just add it, that's the problem, you'd have to pay your telco to push a listing up for you`
`22:22.05`	`brad_mssw`	`Zach^^: personally, I've never done it .. I just deal with other people not being able to get my callerid name :/`
`22:22.38`	`slak-`	`sendrpid`
`22:22.43`	`slak-`	`fixed things for me with sip`
`22:22.44`	`slak-`	`and callerid`
`22:22.44`	`brad_mssw`	`slak-: not necessarily ... it should be able to work behind a NAT`
`22:22.56`	`*** join/#asterisk drumkilla (n=russell@asterisk/developer-and-stable-maintainer/drumkilla)`
`22:22.56`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o drumkilla] by ChanServ`
`22:23.05`	`darwin_35`	`still stumped`
`22:23.22`	`osirus`	`I have a asterisk pbx in production and we seem to be dropping a lot of calls, hoping that the new code will minimize this, but im afraid my hardware wont work`
`22:23.22`	`slak-`	`brad_mssw im just concerned if I have external SIP clients connection and all sip accounts in sip.conf lack a secret= line`
`22:23.31`	`slak-`	`then anyone can just connect if they know the extension number`
`22:23.31`	`slak-`	`eh?`
`22:23.38`	`slak-`	`and register`
`22:24.01`	`brad_mssw`	`slak-: well, yes, if host=dynamic ...`
`22:24.05`	`slak-`	`yes`
`22:24.06`	`*** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@ti211310a080-12483.bb.online.no)`
`22:24.09`	`slak-`	`host is dynamic..`
`22:24.09`	`brad_mssw`	`slak-: if you know their IPs though, just restrict by IP`
`22:24.14`	`slak-`	`okay`
`22:24.17`	`brad_mssw`	`slak-: otherwise, you really need to have secrets`
`22:24.17`	`slak-`	`ill try that`
`22:24.30`	`slak-`	`so host=ip number`
`22:24.38`	`*** join/#asterisk dav0_ (n=dcb@CPE-144-137-31-208.vic.bigpond.net.au)`
`22:24.55`	`brad_mssw`	`slak-: yep`
`22:25.09`	`slak-`	`can host=192.168.111.0/24`
`22:25.22`	`brad_mssw`	`slak-: and make sure you have allowguest=no as well`
`22:25.54`	`brad_mssw`	`slak-: hmm, good question ... I really don't know the answer to that one`
`22:26.08`	`brad_mssw`	`I would think you could`
`22:26.15`	`osirus`	`i dont see why not`
`22:26.51`	`myke420247`	`cl`
`22:26.58`	`slak-`	`Dec 19 17:52:44 WARNING[25844]: acl.c:244 ast_get_ip_or_srv: Unable to lookup '192.168.111.0/24'`
`22:27.02`	`slak-`	`nope`
`22:27.23`	`brad_mssw`	`slak-: sounds like a good feature request though ;)`
`22:27.40`	`*** join/#asterisk bjohnson (n=bjohnson@jecinc.tor.istop.com)`
`22:27.41`	`osirus`	`is anyone using a T100P with 1.2.1`
`22:27.42`	`osirus`	`??`
`22:28.35`	`brad_mssw`	`osirus: sorry, haven't tried it ... don't have a T100P in my 1.2.1 box, but I do have a few of those cards laying around somewhere :/`
`22:29.04`	`osirus`	`im just wondering if they will still work`
`22:29.20`	`brad_mssw`	`osirus: i don't know why they'd actually remove support for something that worked`
`22:29.52`	`osirus`	`brad: i dont know either, but thats what it sez here http://www.asterisk.org/hardware`
`22:31.44`	`brad_mssw`	`osirus: all I see is a mention that the real X100P has been discontinued, which has been true for a long time ... and that digium won't supply tech support for the Generic X100P`
`22:31.55`	`bweschke`	`brad_mssw`
`22:32.00`	`bweschke`	`that's exactly correct`
`22:32.07`	`bweschke`	`chan_modem_* is now gone from 1.2`
`22:32.15`	`bweschke`	`which is what drove the generic x100p's`
`22:32.25`	`myke420247`	`hmm, sucky`
`22:32.28`	`myke420247`	`why would they do that?`
`22:32.28`	`brad_mssw`	`ah, didn't realize the chan_modem_* drove the x100p's`
`22:32.39`	`osirus`	`thats what im trying to figure out`
`22:32.54`	`myke420247`	`those are the cards i use on my hobby/home * servers`
`22:32.57`	`osirus`	`im running a call center on a box with two of them`
`22:32.59`	`myke420247`	`cheap and readily available`
`22:33.16`	`bweschke`	`because chan_modem_* channel drivers became largely unreliable with the later kernel versions`
`22:33.26`	`brad_mssw`	`heh, I've got a TDM400P 4pt FXO that we're no longer using :/`
`22:33.50`	`brad_mssw`	`crap, wait, we're still using 1 FXO port on it for our 911 support :/`
`22:34.20`	`osirus`	`the new code really doesnt seem to be my main problem, im getting reports that callers are making it into que position 1 and then being dropped`
`22:34.59`	`bweschke`	`osirus: do you have a debug / trace of when this is happening ?`
`22:35.39`	`osirus`	`well, not really, the only thing i am seeing is the zap/chan exit non-zero`
`22:36.38`	`osirus`	`im running 1.0.3 btw`
`22:38.51`	`bweschke`	`1.0.3 of asterisk?`
`22:39.02`	`osirus`	`yeah..`
`22:39.08`	`bweschke`	`wow... time to upgrade. :)`
`22:39.35`	`osirus`	`well yeah, i know, but ill kind of be up the creek if my T100P's dont work`
`22:40.58`	`*** join/#asterisk PBXtech (n=nik@67.137.22.147)`
`22:41.53`	`myke420247`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:43.12`	`*** join/#asterisk PBXtech (n=nik@67.137.22.147)`
`22:44.18`	`bweschke`	`true :-/`
`22:46.11`	`darwin_35`	`Dec 19 15:45:51 WARNING[93177]: asterisk.c:574 listener: Accept returned -1: Bad file descriptor`
`22:46.25`	`myke420247`	`is there a guide for asterisk performance tuning?`
`22:46.35`	`osirus`	`if so id sure like to see it`
`22:46.50`	`darwin_35`	`turn off anything you dont neeed in modules.conf`
`22:46.58`	`myke420247`	`this sip instead of iax is new to me so i wonder what else i'm doing wrong`
`22:47.11`	`darwin_35`	`like chan mcfp and skinny and so on`
`22:47.30`	`darwin_35`	`mgcp sorry`
`22:47.42`	`darwin_35`	`this will stream line asterisk`
`22:48.05`	`docelmo`	`anyone know anyone selling Lebanon DID's?`
`22:48.08`	`darwin_35`	`also keep it clean and simple where you can in the dialplans`
`22:48.27`	`myke420247`	`so no autoload=yes in modules.conf?`
`22:48.39`	`darwin_35`	`no`
`22:48.51`	`darwin_35`	`noload => modulke name`
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`22:49.24`	`darwin_35`	`and then just turn them off as you dont need them or use them`
`22:49.28`	`myke420247`	`alrite`
`22:49.52`	`myke420247`	`any way to see what modules i'm using right now?`
`22:50.08`	`docelmo`	`�myke420247� yes show modules`
`22:50.09`	`litage`	`will you take a performance hit if you use sip between ip/softphones and box1, and then use h323 between box1 and your carrier?`
`22:50.18`	`litage`	`(compared to using h323 all the way through)`
`22:50.44`	`docelmo`	`�litage� no your PDD my increase slightly but nothing really noticable`
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`22:50.54`	`darwin_35`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:50.54`	`darwin_35`	`Dec 19 15:45:03 WARNING[93177]: res_odbc.c:563 odbc_obj_connect: res_odbc: Error SQLConnect=-1 errno=1045 [MySQL][ODBC 3.51 Driver]Access denied for user 'teliax'@'localhost' (using password: YES)`
`22:50.54`	`darwin_35`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:51.00`	`darwin_35`	`not localhost`
`22:51.10`	`darwin_35`	`why is it stuck on local host`
`22:51.28`	`darwin_35`	`I have SERVER = set in odbc.ini`
`22:51.30`	`docelmo`	`You didnt modify the conf file`
`22:51.37`	`docelmo`	`?? May be a bug`
`22:51.42`	`docelmo`	`consult the bug tracker`
`22:52.02`	`darwin_35`	`i find nothing in the bug tracker about odbc errors`
`22:52.13`	`Atebo1`	`[TK]D-Fender, are you there?`
`22:52.13`	`darwin_35`	`or issues`
`22:52.27`	`docelmo`	`might be your lucky day to add it.`
`22:57.35`	`slak-`	`hey i set host=ATA unit IP in sip.conf for each uyser`
`22:57.42`	`slak-`	`and now nothing can register`
`22:57.44`	`slak-`	`wtf`
`22:58.23`	`slak-`	`changed it from "dynamic"`
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`22:59.03`	`chris-fn`	`im probably going to catch a little heat for this question, but is anyone here familiar with asterisk@home?`
`22:59.16`	`mog_work`	`lol`
`22:59.34`	`mog_work`	`more than a little`
`23:00.26`	`*** part/#asterisk Atebo1 (n=ugob@n250.camo-route.com)`
`23:00.31`	`chris-fn`	`well im working on an automatic provisioning system`
`23:00.51`	`chris-fn`	`and want to know, among other things, which component parses mysql->*.conf`
`23:01.08`	`chris-fn`	`i see the reload being sent from asterisk@home via agi to asterisk`
`23:01.22`	`chris-fn`	`and i see some variable set in mysql.asterisk.admin.need_reload`
`23:01.30`	`chris-fn`	`but i dont see exactly what does the parsing`
`23:02.37`	`*** join/#asterisk PBXtech (n=nik@67.137.22.147)`
`23:03.13`	`litage`	`docelm0: PDD?`
`23:04.19`	`*** join/#asterisk cnet2 (n=jjohn@201.192.107.58)`
`23:05.11`	`cnet2`	`any recomendations on a asterisk manager? I've tried several from the voip-info website but haven't seen one that really catchs my eye`
`23:05.20`	`litage`	`cnet2: as in a gui?`
`23:05.51`	`dav0_`	`anyone working on jingle support yet ?`
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`23:06.39`	`anthm`	`santa?`
`23:06.51`	`dav0_`	`xmpp voip extensions`
`23:07.04`	`chris-fn`	`so nobody's got help for me? i can do amazing things with a few ping-pong balls and a blowtorch if anyone's interested in a trade`
`23:07.09`	`dav0_`	`google talk and friends`
`23:08.18`	`Remosi`	`dav0_, yeah`
`23:08.21`	`Remosi`	`there are`
`23:08.29`	`mog_work`	`and jangle`
`23:08.35`	`mog_work`	`some christmas bells etc`
`23:09.01`	`myke420247`	`anyone use mod_ices?`
`23:09.06`	`docelmo`	`PDD Post Dial Delay`
`23:09.14`	`docelmo`	`PDD == how many seconds before ring`
`23:09.19`	`cnet2`	`litage: yes.. i meant like for easy administration. for technicians.`
`23:09.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`cnet2 : What kind of use/budget?`
`23:09.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`# extensions, etc`
`23:09.56`	`cnet2`	`i wanted to try some free versions first, and then look for a commercial version, maybe around $300`
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`23:10.56`	`cnet2`	`asterisk@home is nice, but too simple, astbill is still beta, a2bill is the one i'm using`
`23:11.29`	`cnet2`	`# extensions would be around 70`
`23:11.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ScopServ is the best I've seen, and I use it at work`
`23:11.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Check for it on the WIKI`
`23:11.57`	`cnet2`	`i saw screen shots, but the website won't say the price`
`23:12.11`	`cnet2`	`maybe firefox incompatible`
`23:12.56`	`cnet2`	`nah, it just won't show it.`
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`23:14.20`	`slak-`	`hey whats reinvite`
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`23:15.54`	`asteriskgeeks`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:16.02`	`mog_work`	`hi bot`
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`23:18.46`	`bweschke`	`reinvite is a way with sip to reinvite the media away from the server "when possible"`
`23:22.09`	`slak-`	`Dec 19 18:48:08 ERROR[26818]: chan_sip.c:6385 register_verify: Peer '121' is trying to register, but not configured as host=dynamic`
`23:22.13`	`slak-`	`yea OK`
`23:22.16`	`slak-`	`so he isnt..so what`
`23:22.25`	`slak-`	`why cant it register`
`23:22.52`	`Remosi`	`it has the wrong IP? (disclaimer: my * knowledge is weak)`
`23:22.56`	`*** part/#asterisk umay (n=chris@65-37-2-236.nrp2.roc.ny.frontiernet.net)`
`23:23.04`	`slak-`	`no the IP is correct`
`23:23.11`	`Alric`	`Its either registration or IP based, not both.`
`23:23.31`	`Alric`	`host= is a way to determine where the person is coming from. If you set it by IP, then no registration is needed, as far as I know.`
`23:23.45`	`slak-`	`thanks`
`23:23.56`	`Alric`	`Registration just points the server back to the device.`
`23:24.30`	`Darwin35`	`mememememme`
`23:25.10`	`litage`	`docelmo: what is PDD?`
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`23:29.34`	`[hC]`	`sheeet... i need 4 fxo ports in this server and it only has 3 slots`
`23:29.35`	`[hC]`	`grr.`
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`23:29.55`	`*** join/#asterisk SpaceBass (n=sp@static-71-251-230-2.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net)`
`23:29.58`	`SpaceBass`	`hey folks`
`23:30.07`	`SpaceBass`	`can anyone recomend a providor that allows setcallerid`
`23:30.08`	`riddlebox`	`what would cause a user not to be able to log into their mailbox?`
`23:30.13`	`SpaceBass`	`someone suggested nufone...any good/`
`23:31.28`	`Ariel_`	`SpaceBass, I use nufone and they allow you to setcallerid`
`23:31.37`	`SpaceBass`	`Hey Ariel_ LONG TIME!`
`23:31.47`	`Ariel_`	`I also use voicepulse and I can also change it with them as well as with race.com`
`23:31.56`	`Ariel_`	`SpaceBass, hello hope all is well.`
`23:32.03`	`SpaceBass`	`can't complain... u?`
`23:32.42`	`Ariel_`	`I am finally able to do things again. Was moving and had a problem with selling my house. But all is well now thanks.`
`23:33.18`	`SpaceBass`	`Ariel_ of nufone, race and voiceplus, who would you recomend for casual use?`
`23:33.26`	`[hC]`	`Are there any alternatives for dual/quad port fxo adapters aside from digium pci cards?`
`23:33.36`	`Ariel_`	`SpaceBass, Nufone`
`23:34.04`	`Ariel_`	`but it's only for 48 states and canada no international with them at this time. Unless they have changed.`
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`23:34.17`	`SpaceBass`	`thats fine`
`23:34.26`	`SpaceBass`	`thanks!`
`23:34.31`	`Ariel_`	`np`
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`23:37.07`	`Kort`	`anyone know what would cause crackling on voip phones w/ asterisk?`
`23:37.08`	`osirus`	`hey guys`
`23:37.24`	`osirus`	`a hellovalot of things`
`23:37.46`	`osirus`	`bandwidth, for starters`
`23:37.56`	`Ariel_`	`Kort, that is a loaded questoin`
`23:37.59`	`Kort`	`heh.`
`23:37.59`	`Ariel_`	`question`
`23:38.04`	`Kort`	`I figured as much :)`
`23:38.11`	`osirus`	`anyone know what the reccomended kernel is for asterisk?`
`23:38.22`	`Ariel_`	`have you ever heard the reply more data needed`
`23:38.28`	`osirus`	`hehe`
`23:38.30`	`Kort`	`well my setup is an office LAN -> Asterisk -> Voice T1`
`23:38.33`	`Alric`	`Something stable?`
`23:38.35`	`osirus`	`DOES_NOT_COMPUTE`
`23:38.40`	`riddlebox`	`ok I have exten => 17,1,VoiceMailMain(@default) in extensions.conf, and when I dial 17 it asks for a mailbox, I put in the mailbox, then password but it says log in incorrect`
`23:38.41`	`Ariel_`	`I use centos`
`23:38.44`	`osirus`	`well, yeah thats a start`
`23:38.45`	`osirus`	`oh you do?`
`23:38.49`	`osirus`	`what kernel`
`23:39.03`	`Alric`	`CentOS, latest kernel yum recognizes here.`
`23:39.05`	`Ariel_`	`2.4 mainly but I have a few on 2.6`
`23:39.08`	`osirus`	`we're moving most of our servers onto centos`
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`23:39.43`	`osirus`	`have you ran asterisk on the 2.6.11smp kernel for cent?`
`23:40.13`	`Ariel_`	`riddlebox, what does the cli say when you put the mail box number in? Also make sure you do have things in the voicemail.conf under default`
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`23:40.50`	`riddlebox`	`Ariel_: I do have it in default in voicemail.conf, the cli just says incorrect password`
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`23:46.29`	`riddlebox`	`Ariel_: when I put the box number in it says playing 'vm-password'`
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`23:50.35`	`litage`	`are there any free carriers/providers that use h323?`
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`23:53.06`	`Uberbot`	`Does anyone run Asterisk on Gentoo?`
`23:53.12`	`{zombie}`	`riddlebox: if you type in the mailbox number, and then push the # key, does the password prompt play straight away?`
`23:53.15`	`{zombie}`	`or does it take a while?`
`23:53.29`	`{zombie}`	`bearing in mind that if you don't type anything it will still play the password prompt after some time`
`23:53.35`	`riddlebox`	`{zombie}: it takes forever`
`23:53.43`	`{zombie}`	`right, so asterisk isn't receiving your DTMF`
`23:53.53`	`{zombie}`	`make sure your phone and asterisk both agree on the DTMF mode`
`23:54.06`	`{zombie}`	`preferably rfc2833`
`23:54.15`	`{zombie}`	`(aka AVT on some phones)`
`23:54.24`	`riddlebox`	`thats what I kept thinking, but it says it is the incorrect password for the right extension?`
`23:54.43`	`{zombie}`	`no, it says that even if the extension is wrong`
`23:54.48`	`{zombie}`	`or if it didn't receive the extensions`
`23:54.53`	`{zombie}`	`try it - ring the number and don't type ANYTHING`
`23:55.00`	`{zombie}`	`and you will see you get the exact same result`
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`23:58.35`	`RyanW`	`I have a grandstream HT486 firmware 1.0.6.7 If i configure a secret in asterisk and also in the device. the device will not register. the error message is "SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized" Any ideas?`
`23:58.43`	`YaroMan_`	`hello`
`23:58.48`	`YaroMan_`	`is any one here?>`
`23:59.04`	`Beirdo`	`nope`
`23:59.35`	`*** part/#asterisk YaroMan_ (i=user@cpe-204-210-153-209.hvc.res.rr.com)`
`23:59.45`	`mistral`	`lol`
`23:59.53`	`Beirdo`	`heheh`
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