| 00:00.04 | ManxPower | DJ-Pyro, You're not shareing interrupts, are oyu? |
| 00:00.11 | _Sam-- | sounds real familiar...i use all those now |
| 00:00.27 | _Sam-- | i was a sysadmin for years, i like all those |
| 00:00.40 | Blankman | DJ-Pyro: who is your provider? |
| 00:00.41 | DJ-Pyro | no, they're all seperate |
| 00:00.53 | DJ-Pyro | Blankman: McLeodUSA, sbc loop |
| 00:01.47 | Dr-Linux | anybody have idea about this error >> Dec 23 15:27:13 NOTICE[9475]: chan_sip.c:11012 handle_request: Unknown SIP command 'SI29376P/2.0' from '67.160.190.245' |
| 00:01.54 | Blankman | Ummm ... I had issues like what your saying from both sbc and version a while back. Turned out to be a bad card ... |
| 00:01.57 | DJ-Pyro | ManxPower: switched the cables out with some of the well built ones that came with a new a104d, moved the machine right next to the demarc, t1 has been tested clean |
| 00:02.11 | ManxPower | DJ-Pyro, I had a SuperMicro board (one recommended by Digium) that would give me HDLC Abort errors any time the HD was accessed |
| 00:02.14 | *** join/#asterisk Telamon (i=telamon@blk-222-22-126.eastlink.ca) |
| 00:02.19 | DJ-Pyro | super |
| 00:02.55 | Blankman | So no one on yet that knows realtime right? |
| 00:03.05 | DJ-Pyro | I think my last possible option is to pull an extra poweredge 1650 out of the rack and try that, haven't had any issues with that |
| 00:03.25 | Blankman | Does anyone know if I am supposed to use the switch app for voicemail? |
| 00:03.39 | Telamon | Blankman: I know a bit about realtime, what's the question? |
| 00:03.41 | ManxPower | DJ-Pyro, Want to know how I fixed my HDLC Abort errors? |
| 00:03.49 | Blankman | Oh ... cool :-) |
| 00:04.34 | davn | is it worthwhile/possible to transcode g711 to g729 for outbound calls? |
| 00:04.47 | ManxPower | davn, only if you have to |
| 00:04.54 | ManxPower | Um, the PSTN is G711 |
| 00:05.08 | DJ-Pyro | ManxPower: would love to |
| 00:05.22 | ManxPower | DJ-Pyro, I replaced the motherboard with a different brand |
| 00:05.33 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: do you have idea about the error i pasted? |
| 00:05.36 | davn | my VSP only supports g729 |
| 00:05.59 | DJ-Pyro | ManxPower: which one are you running on now? |
| 00:06.16 | Blankman | Telamon: so, I have been trying to get the 1.2.1 version to run. We use Suse 10, and I have the cdr_odbc working fine. But, I can't get the realtime part to work. I am using a postgres backend. I am able to use realtime load voicemail mailbox <a mailbox number> from the cli and it all works. But it does't work when I try and leave a voicemail ... it says the box doesn't exist :-( |
| 00:06.25 | Blankman | Telamon: Any suggestions? |
| 00:06.46 | ManxPower | DJ-Pyro, A specific model of Intel reference board. |
| 00:07.23 | ManxPower | I would have to open the case to get you the exact model numbner. It's a Dual Xeon board, but we only use one CPU unless we outgrow 1 CPU |
| 00:08.34 | DJ-Pyro | gotcha |
| 00:08.44 | DJ-Pyro | thanks for your help, I'll deal with this after the holidays |
| 00:08.58 | Blankman | I have read all the wiki stuff I can and all the README's in the doc's dir ... but still no luck. Basically, if I reload app_voicemail, it is very clear that it is getting it's data from voicemail.conf file. I can only think that I am supposed to use the switch => Realtime/<vmailbox>@voicemal to make it work ... but that doesn't make sense :-) |
| 00:09.08 | Dr-Linux | anybody can help about this error? |
| 00:09.10 | Dr-Linux | anybody have idea about this error >> Dec 23 15:27:13 NOTICE[9475]: chan_sip.c:11012 handle_request: Unknown SIP command 'SI29376P/2.0' from '67.160.190.245' |
| 00:09.12 | Telamon | Blankman: Okay, a couple of quick checks: Do you have "voicemail => odbc,asterisk,<dbtable>" in your extconfig.conf ? Are you using the example voicemail schema that came with Asterisk or something custom? |
| 00:09.29 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, It sounds like your SIP device is SERIOUSLY fucked up. |
| 00:10.17 | Qwell | ho hum |
| 00:10.23 | Qwell | Blankman: 1.2.1? |
| 00:10.29 | Blankman | Yes to the extconfig.conf ... other than the fact that the one that comes with it is for mysql (so I ported it to postgres) yes, vanilla :-) |
| 00:10.43 | Blankman | Qwell: yes 1.2.1 |
| 00:10.45 | ManxPower | Captian Morgan in eggnog is yummy |
| 00:10.47 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: the IP phone is behind the firewall, it registed with asterisk and can call out etc, but i can't ring it SIP to SIP |
| 00:10.51 | Qwell | http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5972 |
| 00:10.54 | Qwell | apply that patch |
| 00:11.19 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, maybe the firewall is corrupting data. D-LINK? |
| 00:11.31 | Telamon | Blankman: Have you done a full reload of the server (ie, stop and start again) since updating extconfig.conf? Or reload extconfig will work too. |
| 00:11.47 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: i put its localnet in sip.conf, so it begun ringing and suddenly i got saw this error on CLI>, and now same problem again |
| 00:12.10 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: D-LINK ? |
| 00:12.26 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, DLINK are notorious about corrupting data |
| 00:12.31 | Blankman | Telamon: yes. I will try it again and see. |
| 00:12.39 | Qwell | Blankman: trust me on this one - apply that patch |
| 00:12.48 | ManxPower | PROLLY only older hardware, but I don't trust them |
| 00:12.58 | Dr-Linux | hhm.. |
| 00:13.00 | Blankman | Qwell: according to Corydon76 it was fixed for 1.2 on 11-05-2005 ... |
| 00:13.06 | Qwell | Blankman: in svn |
| 00:13.09 | Qwell | not in the release |
| 00:13.21 | Telamon | Blankman: Yeah, Qwell has a point. 1.2.1 is *severely* screwed when it comes to voicemail. Either go back to 1.2.0 or apply the patch and see if that fixes the problem. |
| 00:13.26 | Qwell | 1.2.2 will have that fix, but... |
| 00:13.31 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: but i'm facing same problem with an other IP phone, thats also behind the firewall, |
| 00:13.31 | ManxPower | Honestly I don't trust any vendor except for Cisco, but Linksys is "sort of" trustworthy |
| 00:13.48 | Qwell | ManxPower: You don't trust simple switches? |
| 00:13.55 | Blankman | K. Great ... so all are saying that I should be on 1.2.0? |
| 00:14.06 | Qwell | Blankman: no, I'm saying stick with 1.2.1, and use that patch |
| 00:14.06 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, the error looks like a corruption of the message "SIP/2.0" |
| 00:14.14 | Blankman | ManxPower: linksys is cisco :D |
| 00:14.17 | Qwell | I guarantee it will work. |
| 00:14.20 | Telamon | ManxPower: Cisco owns LinkSys now. Personally I prefer D-Link, but more so because I like their switches. |
| 00:14.37 | ManxPower | Qwell, Not really. If I have to, I'll use linksys or 3com, but Cisco managed switches from eBay are almost as cheap. |
| 00:14.47 | Qwell | I suppose so |
| 00:15.04 | ManxPower | We are deploying Cisco Cat 550x all over the place now. |
| 00:15.17 | Blankman | Qwell ... I will give it a try ... |
| 00:15.19 | Telamon | Blankman: Qwell is the coder, so I defer to him, but personally, I'd go back to 1.2.0 if you have to recompile anyway. Wait for 1.2.2 to upgrade. |
| 00:15.31 | Qwell | 1.2.1 fixes bugs that exist in 1.2.0 |
| 00:15.46 | Qwell | just as 1.2.2 will fix bugs that exist in 1.2.1 |
| 00:15.49 | Blankman | I have been waiting since tag 185 ... so ... I guess I could wait longer ;-) |
| 00:16.35 | Qwell | If people don't use and test 1.2.1, 1.2.2 will not be released as soon. (in theory) |
| 00:16.52 | Qwell | Blankman: with 1.2.0, I hope you don't use SIP |
| 00:17.02 | Telamon | Qwell: BTW, did you get the message I left earlier about the 1.2.1 voicemail problems, with and without the patch? |
| 00:17.10 | Telamon | Qwell: Why, what's wrong with SIP in 1.2.0? |
| 00:17.11 | Blankman | Nope ... pure IAX shop :-) |
| 00:17.15 | Qwell | Telamon: yeah, doesn't make any sense, unless the columns are wrong |
| 00:17.45 | Blankman | Qwell, can you point me to a man for applying the patch? |
| 00:18.01 | Qwell | patch -p0 < filename.diff |
| 00:18.08 | Telamon | Qwell: Yeah, I'm thinking bad DB schema is the reason for 90% of the problems I've been having with the system. |
| 00:18.15 | Qwell | wait |
| 00:18.18 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: so what you suggest, should i change phone's sip firmwar? router? or something in configuration? |
| 00:18.21 | Qwell | Telamon: You said they're using views? |
| 00:18.28 | Telamon | Qwell: Yep. |
| 00:18.29 | Qwell | I'm surprised they can do inserts at all |
| 00:18.47 | Qwell | view + insert = begging for trouble |
| 00:19.07 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, Not at this point (unless it's easy for you to do). All I'm saying is that the error message LOOKS like a corrupted verison of a valid message. |
| 00:19.09 | Blankman | Qwell: from the asterisk-1.2.1 dir or from the apps dir? |
| 00:19.17 | Qwell | Blankman: asterisk root dir |
| 00:19.53 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: thats what i'm asking what you suggest me? |
| 00:20.25 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, I don't know. The error mesage is SO bizzare I'd say you might be living in an alternate universion. |
| 00:20.30 | Telamon | Dr-Linux: Try a different router. |
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| 00:20.46 | VoIPMasta | Does anyone know if voipjet is down? I can't forward any calls through them... |
| 00:20.54 | Qwell | VoIPMasta: call them |
| 00:21.06 | VoIPMasta | Qwell: they don't publish a phone number |
| 00:21.15 | VoIPMasta | Qwell: and I've already emailed them twice |
| 00:21.17 | Qwell | Then it's time for a new provider, isn't it? |
| 00:21.38 | VoIPMasta | I think so, however I have some balance there that would like to use before filing a dispute through paypal |
| 00:21.54 | Qwell | VoIPMasta: Do your homework next time.. |
| 00:22.22 | VoIPMasta | Qwell: I did, I always had replies from them in no more than 4 hours, and I read a lot of good stuff about them prior to signing up |
| 00:22.24 | Qwell | there are many fly-by-night voip providers out there |
| 00:22.31 | Blankman | Qwell: thanks ... building now. |
| 00:22.44 | VoIPMasta | They are even listed in the top 10 wholesale voip providers |
| 00:22.45 | Dr-Linux | :S |
| 00:22.55 | Blankman | Qwell: you know if anyone has odbcstorage working with postgres through odbc? |
| 00:23.04 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower used difficult english this time, that i don't understand S: |
| 00:23.08 | ManxPower | The problem with VoIP providers is that their support is great...until they start to grow |
| 00:23.12 | Qwell | Blankman: no, but I don't imagine it'd be difficult. |
| 00:23.14 | Qwell | HOWEVER |
| 00:23.22 | Qwell | If you plan on doing that, stop the compile :p |
| 00:23.28 | Qwell | lemme dig up this patch |
| 00:23.33 | Blankman | Qwell: k. stopping |
| 00:23.35 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, English is not your native language? |
| 00:23.45 | Qwell | http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=6050 |
| 00:23.48 | Qwell | grab that patch too |
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| 00:24.57 | Telamon | Hmm, is there a dialplan app to see if an extension exists in a particular context? |
| 00:25.38 | Blankman | Qwell: Order matter? |
| 00:25.43 | Qwell | Blankman: shouldn't |
| 00:26.21 | Blankman | Qwell: make clean;make so it will take some time :) |
| 00:28.04 | Blankman | Qwell: Hey, should I be worried that the signedness is being handled? |
| 00:28.15 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: if english would my native language, then i don't need to be here, bcoz google has rich documentation for asterisk/pbx |
| 00:28.36 | Dr-Linux | i don't understand many english :S |
| 00:28.37 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, I will try to not use slang. 8-) |
| 00:29.04 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: i didn't understand what you said |
| 00:29.14 | Dr-Linux | thats why i'm confused, what should i do ? :S |
| 00:29.29 | Qwell | Blankman: huh? |
| 00:29.43 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, Your problem is very rare. I have never heard of this specific error message. If it is easy to replace the firewall/NAT router, then replace it. If it is not easy to replace the firewall/router then you should try it after you have tried everything else. |
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| 00:31.17 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: its an Cisco IP phone and its at my client's house in US |
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| 00:32.08 | Blankman | Qwell: when it build the code, there were warning that the params weren't doing what it want from a "signed" point of view ... |
| 00:32.20 | Qwell | Blankman: in voicemail? |
| 00:32.25 | Blankman | Qwell: it build, but now vmail wont work at all :-) |
| 00:32.39 | Qwell | define "won't work" |
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| 00:39.53 | davn | ulaw > alaw right? |
| 00:39.59 | Blankman | Qwell: okay. So, it is working the same as before ... let me check one things. |
| 00:42.53 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: Thanks my problem is fixed now, Justinu told me the solution |
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| 00:44.31 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, What is the solution? |
| 00:44.55 | Blankman | Qwell: so ... here is what happens. If I use an extension that is defined in voicemail.conf it works (if I am not using odbcstorage), then if I use odbcstorage ... it segfaults. If I use an extension that is in the db then it doesn't even look for it. It just does a bunch hangs up ... |
| 00:45.50 | Qwell | Blankman: You're sure you applied the patches right? |
| 00:46.02 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: qualify=yes |
| 00:46.17 | Dr-Linux | and its working now fine |
| 00:46.36 | Dr-Linux | it also can be done in phone config NAT keepalive |
| 00:47.21 | Blankman | The two that you sent me: 6050 and 5972 |
| 00:47.31 | Qwell | 6050? |
| 00:47.42 | Qwell | oh, right |
| 00:47.53 | Qwell | and it said they were applied successfully? |
| 00:47.58 | Telamon | Blankman: In your db, what is the context for your extension? |
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| 00:48.17 | Qwell | it most certainly shouldn't segfault |
| 00:49.14 | Qwell | hmm, does it segfault when it writes the message? |
| 00:49.25 | Qwell | ala http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=6048 ? |
| 00:49.26 | Blankman | Qwell: default |
| 00:50.32 | Qwell | anthm: just call app_voicemail |
| 00:51.08 | Telamon | Blankman: Try putting mailbox=<extension>@default in your sip.conf entry, rename the [default] block in voicemail.conf to [default-old] and then and do a sip and voicemail reload. |
| 00:51.57 | Blankman | Qwell: umm well, I am not using sip. I am using a zap channel. |
| 00:52.14 | Blankman | I could setup an IAXy ... |
| 00:52.16 | Qwell | Blankman: Can you reliably reproduce the crash? |
| 00:52.18 | anthm | dont forget to click your heels and chant "there's no place like home!" |
| 00:52.47 | Blankman | Qwell: yeah, I think so, let me make a change back so that the odbcstorage isn't being used. |
| 00:53.10 | Qwell | Blankman: any chance I can get ssh access to that machine, to try to debug it? |
| 00:54.34 | Blankman | Qwell: yeah. I let me change the password. |
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| 01:00.13 | ronaldl79 | Hello. |
| 01:00.22 | dronolom | Hi |
| 01:01.16 | ronaldl79 | I hope I am not the only one who cannot compile libpri or zaptel from trunk because of the error message "you need a newer libpri." I know this has to be a bug, because I've never received this message before. |
| 01:01.16 | ronaldl79 | Hi, Dr. |
| 01:01.50 | dronolom | sorry, I also experiencing zaptel problems but not with compiling |
| 01:02.33 | ronaldl79 | I've downloaded revisions for the past few days, and nothing has addressed this yet...oh well. |
| 01:02.51 | dronolom | i feel your pain ;) |
| 01:02.59 | dronolom | which verzion of *? |
| 01:03.26 | ronaldl79 | Trunk (aka HEAD on CVS) |
| 01:04.18 | dronolom | you are 100s years ahead of me ;) |
| 01:07.15 | dronolom | how about trying to answer my question? |
| 01:07.44 | ronaldl79 | What's your question |
| 01:08.39 | De_Mon | I'm trying to run the demo using a sip channel, the phone registers but when I try to dial a number xlite says 'call not approved' |
| 01:08.42 | dronolom | first config (2 - x100p clones and 2 different HDDs with AAH0.9 and AAH1.5 zaptel 0.1.6 on both and zaptel.conf is adentical) |
| 01:09.11 | dronolom | zapata.conf I meant |
| 01:09.42 | ronaldl79 | Sorry dude, but I haven't worked with any hardware yet -- I'm strictly software. |
| 01:10.00 | dronolom | that is where my questin is, actually |
| 01:10.25 | ronaldl79 | Ahh, it's one of those days. |
| 01:10.47 | ronaldl79 | I'd read the AAH forums .... I rarely use that. |
| 01:10.55 | dronolom | see, 0.9 has no problems with FAX and CallerID at all but 1.5 is very unpredictable about 80% success rate for CallerID nad %20 for FAX |
| 01:11.20 | dronolom | I'll keep reading then |
| 01:11.37 | ronaldl79 | Yeah....that might be best, because it'll be hard to even wake a soul in here at times... |
| 01:11.53 | dronolom | ;)) |
| 01:18.49 | ManxPower | I'm only 1135 unread messages in asterisk-users |
| 01:20.06 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: i want all zap incoming/ougoing call recording, and on some sip users, can you help me with ? |
| 01:20.49 | Dr-Linux | if i create /var/spool/asterisk/monitor dir so what else i need? |
| 01:21.17 | Dr-Linux | or anyother easy solution for call recording for all aor specific SIP users |
| 01:22.23 | Telamon | Dr-Linux: Try putting the Monitor() app in your dialplan before the Dial command: http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/monitor.html |
| 01:25.32 | Dr-Linux | 1. Monitor - this application allows you to record a conversation. |
| 01:25.32 | Dr-Linux | NOTE: This application is valid for the CVS_HEAD version. |
| 01:25.43 | Dr-Linux | what does it mean CVS HEAD version? |
| 01:25.57 | Dr-Linux | i compiled 1.2 :S |
| 01:27.42 | jake1932 | CVS HEAD is otherwise known as the development branch |
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| 01:43.39 | Ikarus | Okay, this is going to sound silly, but does anyone know of a PA system adressable via SIP (as in just like a VoIP phone so it can be intergrated into a phone system) |
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| 01:48.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Ikarus : there are several straight analog models you can put on an ATA easily. |
| 01:49.36 | Ikarus | [TK]D-Fender: tempting |
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| 01:50.13 | Ikarus | also something else, is it possible for Asterisk to do a one to many call (conference with automatic setup), that would also be needed |
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| 01:53.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Ikarus : There is a "paging" type scripts for Polycom's that drag all the targeted people into a mettme. I think that might tdo. Check the WIKI for it |
| 01:54.25 | Ikarus | [TK]D-Fender: ah, sounds nicwe |
| 01:54.38 | Ikarus | Luckily I don't have to implement this any time soon |
| 01:54.50 | Ikarus | I just got asked the question if it was possible :) |
| 01:59.08 | Ikarus | Oooh, got a nice solution, shove a BudgeTone in a box, activate auto answer, plugin to the headset interface a simple speaker + amp |
| 02:02.58 | [TK]D-Fender | that might work, and be the only valuable use of a Barbie-Tone I've seen to date :) |
| 02:03.23 | Ikarus | [TK]D-Fender: we use them as cheap desk phones |
| 02:03.34 | Ikarus | Makes the boss like me for the price |
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| 02:16.23 | OloBola | does anyone know how it's possible to resolve ever DNS record EXCEPT "A" Records? Everything else resolves fine, just no HOST records! |
| 02:22.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Ikarus : Price is nifty, but they feel like cheap junk and I wouldn't even want one for home. |
| 02:22.23 | trixter | for i in ptr soa mx srv aaaa txt hinfo naptr; do echo checking record type $i; host -t $i blah.com; done |
| 02:22.27 | [TK]D-Fender | I sprang for an SPA-941 recently. |
| 02:22.46 | trixter | [TK]D-Fender: you pay for equipment? man I have been getting it free lately :P |
| 02:25.03 | [TK]D-Fender | .... bastard |
| 02:25.28 | trixter | people just give me stuff what can I say |
| 02:25.36 | trixter | the other day someone asked me how they could give me more |
| 02:25.43 | trixter | 2 days ago I think |
| 02:25.52 | trixter | :D |
| 02:26.06 | trixter | technically its for the Sacramento AUG |
| 02:26.20 | trixter | thevoipconnection.com gave us a bit of hardware for prizes and stuff.. digium gave us some too |
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| 02:49.02 | mrdigital | is benjk bere? |
| 02:49.04 | mrdigital | here |
| 02:51.12 | mrdigital | anyone here for that matter? |
| 02:52.33 | mrdigital | whats the best Linux Distro for Asterisk? |
| 02:56.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Whatever you are most comfortable with. |
| 02:56.30 | rob0 | mrdigital: the one you know the most about, feel best at administering. |
| 03:07.07 | xachen | Anybody know of a good prepaid Originator of US DIDs? |
| 03:07.21 | xachen | Paying per minute inbound is acceptable |
| 03:07.25 | xachen | it would prob be cheaper :) |
| 03:10.07 | xachen | File |
| 03:10.09 | xachen | Could you PM me plz |
| 03:14.41 | mrdigital | rob0: how can i do a door buzzer? |
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| 03:25.13 | jontow | anyone familiar with the RADvision H.323 stack? |
| 03:30.05 | mrdigital | jontow |
| 03:30.05 | mrdigital | ? |
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| 03:41.20 | Strom_C | why wont you work |
| 03:41.30 | Qwell | *adtran 624 shoots a puzzled look back at Strom_C |
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| 03:41.49 | Strom_C | heh |
| 03:42.10 | mrdigital | Qwell or Strom_C? |
| 03:42.36 | Strom_C | is there some trick to getting this thing set up beyond just specifying the right settings on asterisk and turning it up? |
| 03:43.00 | mrdigital | Strom_C: is it hard to have Asterisk open a door ? |
| 03:43.09 | mrdigital | like press *221 |
| 03:43.11 | mrdigital | from any phone |
| 03:43.15 | mrdigital | and the door unlocks |
| 03:43.21 | Strom_C | um |
| 03:43.28 | Strom_C | what? |
| 03:43.47 | mrdigital | you know in aparment buildings |
| 03:43.51 | mrdigital | you press a button at the door |
| 03:43.55 | mrdigital | it rings a intercom at the apt |
| 03:43.59 | mrdigital | then the person buzzes you in? |
| 03:44.14 | Strom_C | i think that has to do more with the equipment at the front door than it does with asterisk |
| 03:45.25 | mrdigital | i know im sayign can it be done? |
| 03:45.55 | mrdigital | pretty much Client wants to buzz in a person thru any one of her Phones |
| 03:46.06 | trixter | it can be done yes |
| 03:46.37 | trixter | it wouldnt be that hard, you could even use chan_oss |
| 03:47.13 | trixter | for the intercom I mean |
| 03:47.24 | Qwell | tiptoe to the door, tiptoe back to your desk |
| 03:47.29 | Qwell | press a button that makes a noise |
| 03:47.46 | Qwell | unlock the door manually, of course, while you're over there |
| 03:48.14 | trixter | well the buttoin could be done a variety of ways, one could be for example using pins 2 & [18-25] on a parallel port and reading that bit |
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| 03:50.02 | mrdigital | Strom_C: http://www.nokey.com/kklklk.html how can i connect that to asterisk |
| 03:50.09 | mrdigital | so it rings specified phones? |
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| 03:52.36 | mrdigital | trixter: explain |
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| 03:54.21 | NewSole | Merry F$#&@% HO HO Evey One |
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| 03:59.58 | Qwell | docelmo: 5 days? damn, that's an extensive website |
| 04:00.10 | docelmo | huh? |
| 04:00.16 | Qwell | nothing |
| 04:01.35 | Strom_C | maybe I've got something misconfigured with the asterisk box |
| 04:03.05 | Strom_C | because I seem to have the channel bank set up correctly |
| 04:03.37 | Strom_C | the connection is a standard UTP Cat5e patch cable, right? |
| 04:03.48 | docelmo | haha |
| 04:03.49 | docelmo | no |
| 04:03.58 | Strom_C | thats probably my problem then :) |
| 04:03.59 | docelmo | Not ethernet.. |
| 04:04.16 | Strom_C | well it worked for the PRI |
| 04:04.17 | docelmo | Pins 1,2,3,6 is Ethernet... T1/E1 are pins 1,2,4,5 |
| 04:04.56 | Strom_C | so i have to reverse 1/2 and 4/5 on one end of the cable? |
| 04:05.10 | docelmo | Depends on your channel bank.. for mine I did.. |
| 04:05.18 | Strom_C | alright, lemme try that |
| 04:05.43 | docelmo | I dont remember which ones I flipped tho.. |
| 04:06.03 | mrdigital | docelmo: http://www.doorbellfon.com/products/28bf/Dp28bf_r3_c1.gif look at that picture, see the hookup? how can i hook up asterisk |
| 04:06.05 | mrdigital | to it? |
| 04:06.16 | docelmo | anyone in here use MythTV? |
| 04:06.20 | mrdigital | docelmo: i use it |
| 04:06.22 | mrdigital | kicks my ass |
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| 04:06.56 | docelmo | mrdigital, why do you wanna use this box? |
| 04:07.13 | mrdigital | do you have a better solution? |
| 04:07.20 | docelmo | ya build your own |
| 04:07.27 | mrdigital | Client want's to buzz people in via her voip phones |
| 04:07.32 | mrdigital | which are connected to asterisk |
| 04:07.58 | mrdigital | build my own? |
| 04:08.11 | docelmo | ya.. well you could do it this way.. However.. building your own would be easier |
| 04:08.19 | mrdigital | how do i build on? |
| 04:08.21 | mrdigital | one |
| 04:09.15 | Strom_C | ha, that was it |
| 04:09.22 | mrdigital | was wat? |
| 04:09.27 | Strom_C | reversing the pairs |
| 04:09.31 | mrdigital | ok |
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| 04:10.13 | docelmo | Your welcome |
| 04:10.14 | docelmo | :) |
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| 04:13.22 | Strom_C | thanks :) |
| 04:13.35 | kuku5 | anyone here a cisco 79xx guru/ |
| 04:14.02 | docelmo | Yes.. mrdigital you can build your own.. Do you know how to program? |
| 04:14.10 | loud | no, but 70% of this room owns one. |
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| 04:14.24 | docelmo | hehe |
| 04:16.17 | kuku5 | :) |
| 04:16.41 | Strom_C | now I merely can't get dial tone from my channel bank |
| 04:16.42 | loud | ask away kuku |
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| 04:17.02 | kuku5 | I need to turn on/off call forwarding ( the number ) on the phone via the command line |
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| 04:17.36 | kuku5 | From what I have seen its impossible |
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| 04:18.58 | Strom_C | ...there's no talk battery on my FXS port |
| 04:19.00 | Strom_C | what the hell |
| 04:19.17 | docelmo | You broke it? |
| 04:19.22 | Strom_C | no |
| 04:19.26 | Strom_C | :_ |
| 04:19.27 | Strom_C | er :) |
| 04:19.33 | loud | might be impossible since you dont have 'no' or delete, erase commands |
| 04:19.42 | loud | for cfwd_url .. |
| 04:19.58 | Strom_C | docelmo, what kind of channel bank are you using? |
| 04:20.24 | mrdigital | docelmo: pm? |
| 04:20.34 | docelmo | Honestly dude.. I dont know off the top of my head.. I would have to look.. I think its called Access Bank I or something |
| 04:20.38 | docelmo | pm? |
| 04:20.40 | docelmo | what? |
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| 04:21.29 | Strom_C | oh, i didnt have the amphenol connector completely seated |
| 04:21.39 | Strom_C | woot layer-one :) |
| 04:21.49 | docelmo | haha |
| 04:22.16 | docelmo | «mrdigital» what do you wanna know? |
| 04:22.30 | mrdigital | how to do the door thing |
| 04:22.51 | docelmo | There are numerous ways.. Mainly depends if you know how to program |
| 04:22.55 | mrdigital | pm = private messafge |
| 04:23.02 | docelmo | ohh.. |
| 04:23.15 | trixter | mrdigital: the printer port uses pins 2-9 for data and 18-25 are ground.. if you have a bidirectional printer port you can run power to that pin and read it with inp() or something.. that lets you know the button is pressed which can trigger an app to make a call using chan_oss as one endpoint (the intercom) |
| 04:23.33 | mrdigital | trixter: lost |
| 04:23.44 | docelmo | hehe |
| 04:24.14 | docelmo | «trixter» never thought of doing it that way with chan_oss.. |
| 04:26.17 | trixter | it just occured to me when he was describing the situation |
| 04:26.22 | trixter | seems to be the cheapest and easiest way to do it |
| 04:27.03 | Qwell | god I hate family |
| 04:27.17 | trixter | there may be something better but that was the first thing that came to my mind |
| 04:27.32 | docelmo | Ya.. Just using the pins to do the work |
| 04:27.43 | trixter | of course I used to use the printer port for everything from hooking up mag stripe readers, relays to control AC devices, etc |
| 04:27.44 | trixter | :P |
| 04:27.51 | mrdigital | trixter: Door box >>>> analog line >>>> FXO >>>> Asterisk box |
| 04:27.53 | mrdigital | cant that work? |
| 04:28.03 | docelmo | yes |
| 04:28.04 | trixter | pins 10-17 are status pins and if its not a bidirectional printer port those may work better |
| 04:28.12 | docelmo | but depends on how it connects and works and such |
| 04:28.14 | trixter | also those are 5v instead of 12 so ... |
| 04:28.16 | trixter | anyway phone bbl |
| 04:28.17 | mrdigital | docelmo: how do i configure asterisk? |
| 04:28.19 | loud | kuku5, reboot the phone :)) |
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| 04:28.29 | docelmo | depends on your config for the box.. I dont know |
| 04:28.35 | mrdigital | docelmo: should i explain mh config? |
| 04:28.37 | mrdigital | well her config |
| 04:28.44 | trixter | those pins can also be used to trip the buzzer |
| 04:29.00 | trixter | with a relay or something (5vdc normally 12 should work with most ports) poof |
| 04:29.06 | trixter | all application based within asterisk |
| 04:29.10 | trixter | inp/outp |
| 04:29.26 | docelmo | trix you should code it make it gnu and release it.. :) |
| 04:29.37 | trixter | 0x778 for reading 0x379 for status (standard pc port numbers) |
| 04:29.37 | docelmo | I have to do this before long anyhow for my office.. |
| 04:30.19 | mrdigital | docelmo: check msg |
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| 04:47.10 | benjk | mrdigital: there is this company which makes a SIP channel bank and its has also got relays on it |
| 04:47.30 | mrdigital | holy crap |
| 04:47.32 | mrdigital | its benjk |
| 04:47.45 | mrdigital | bout time lol |
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| 04:47.54 | swm_ | I've never seen crap with hole's in it... What do you eat to create that? :) |
| 04:47.59 | mrdigital | check ur pm |
| 04:48.08 | mrdigital | i eat chicks |
| 04:48.25 | benjk | hey, if you talk to me like that, I'll go straight back to bed and sleep another 2 hours or so |
| 04:48.33 | mrdigital | sorry |
| 04:48.44 | mrdigital | can you check ur pm? |
| 04:48.52 | swm_ | ~lobotomy mrdigital |
| 04:48.53 | jbot | ACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on mrdigital |
| 04:50.13 | mrdigital | benjk? |
| 04:50.14 | benjk | I don;t remember the name of the company nor the product but the guy who works there hangs out here often. His nick is something like tzafrir_laptop |
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| 04:57.16 | benjk | why is the bot spamming me? |
| 04:57.33 | joat | same here |
| 04:57.40 | swm_ | me too |
| 04:58.22 | swm_ | Me-Yawn-z-ie |
| 04:59.43 | swm_ | Woo Hoo bought a 1982 Minolta X-370 35MM SLR Camera!!! $49.99... Beats my 1967 Minolta SRT-101 !! And the lenses work with the new one! YEA YEA! |
| 05:02.00 | benjk | Minolta don't make any good lenses though |
| 05:02.15 | swm_ | I know thats why I buy Rokker |
| 05:02.52 | swm_ | Spelled wrong... Rokkor |
| 05:03.53 | swm_ | Exellent cameras but thier lenses trap moisture inside... downfall. So buy custom lenses and ... Wow you have a great camera! |
| 05:03.56 | benjk | you probably want to get yourself a Yashica |
| 05:04.08 | swm_ | benjk: Lense or camera |
| 05:04.18 | benjk | Yashica is the cheap label of Kyocera |
| 05:04.44 | benjk | and they bought out Contax |
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| 05:04.56 | benjk | which is now their upmarket label |
| 05:05.09 | swm_ | I love the older cameras personally... |
| 05:05.18 | benjk | the interesting thing about it is that both Yashica and Contax use the same lense mount |
| 05:05.27 | benjk | so you can use the lenses for both |
| 05:05.29 | swm_ | MD/MC? |
| 05:05.36 | benjk | and the lenses are Carl Zeiss |
| 05:05.37 | swm_ | or X? |
| 05:05.47 | benjk | best you can get |
| 05:06.03 | swm_ | Shit jbot is buggin me again :( |
| 05:06.08 | mrdigital | whats an IVR? |
| 05:06.18 | swm_ | interactive Voice Response? |
| 05:06.22 | benjk | so you can start with a cheap second hand Yashica and invest into nice lenses |
| 05:06.33 | benjk | then at some point you can get a Contax |
| 05:06.33 | swm_ | interactive Voice Response? |
| 05:06.45 | benjk | and use all your lenses with that |
| 05:07.10 | swm_ | Yeah but I already have 18 different lenses and couplers for MD/MC mount cameras |
| 05:07.24 | benjk | Contax is on par with stuff like Leica, Rollei, Hasselblad |
| 05:07.34 | benjk | but they are crap |
| 05:07.43 | mrdigital | is that press 1 for bah .. 2 fro blahblah ? |
| 05:07.50 | swm_ | Taken some awesome photos with my lenses... If you take care of them they work exellent |
| 05:08.00 | benjk | its a waste of money to invest into lenses from Minolta or other Japanese makers who make their own lenses |
| 05:08.11 | benjk | the lenses make a huge difference |
| 05:08.13 | swm_ | No say 1 to.. or 2 tooo or 3 too... or say hello to ... or say eat shit to.... got it? |
| 05:08.34 | mrdigital | oh so voice recogition? |
| 05:08.38 | benjk | you can actually see that when you look at the pictures |
| 05:08.39 | swm_ | Pretty much :) |
| 05:08.47 | mrdigital | ah |
| 05:08.50 | swm_ | "Interactive" is the key word to your finding :) |
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| 05:09.18 | swm_ | Does 35MM still beat a Digital Camera :) |
| 05:09.24 | benjk | years ago I bought a real shitty plastic point and shoot camera from Kyocera |
| 05:09.36 | benjk | it was under their Yashica brand |
| 05:09.44 | benjk | but it had a Carl Zeiss lens |
| 05:09.52 | benjk | otherwise it was a piece of shit |
| 05:10.11 | swm_ | Does 35MM still beat a Digital Camera :) |
| 05:10.12 | benjk | yet everybody who saw the photos asked what camera I used |
| 05:10.14 | mrdigital | benjk do i need anything with FXS or is that the analog ? |
| 05:10.27 | swm_ | it's the digital ... |
| 05:10.29 | benjk | yes, it does |
| 05:10.43 | benjk | unless you are willing to spend 10.000 USD |
| 05:10.53 | swm_ | Yeah I thought 35mm was still better :) |
| 05:11.04 | benjk | but you gotta have good optics |
| 05:11.08 | benjk | German optics |
| 05:11.13 | benjk | anything else is crap |
| 05:11.38 | swm_ | German's are pro's at optics... watched a whole show on thier highway spy cam program :) lol ... brb |
| 05:11.44 | benjk | Leitz, Carl Zeiss, Shneider-Kreuznach |
| 05:12.10 | benjk | those lenses are lightyears ahead of the stuff the Japanese make |
| 05:12.34 | [av]bani | which is why canon uses zeiss lenses |
| 05:12.41 | benjk | even Sony now have Carl Zeiss lenses on their upmarket digital cameras |
| 05:12.59 | [av]bani | now? digicam makers have been using CZ lenses since at least 1996... |
| 05:13.12 | [av]bani | sony has been using them forever... |
| 05:13.25 | benjk | so if you want to build up a nice 35mm camera+lenses portfolio, then do what I said ... |
| 05:13.42 | benjk | get a cheap Yashica and start buying Carl Zeiss lenses for it |
| 05:13.55 | benjk | then at some point buy a Contax \ |
| 05:14.01 | benjk | same lense mounts |
| 05:14.20 | [av]bani | i used to shoot 35mm, as did a friend of mine |
| 05:14.26 | [av]bani | no more... film is no fun :/ |
| 05:14.30 | benjk | its a shame if you spend you money on bad lenses |
| 05:14.38 | benjk | same here, its only a hobby |
| 05:14.56 | [av]bani | and prosumer cams are so good now, its hardly worthwhile |
| 05:15.11 | [av]bani | and nothing beats instant gratification :o |
| 05:15.14 | benjk | but once you have shot photos with good optics and you see the photos, you will be sad that all those photos you made before with other lenses will forever be mediocre |
| 05:15.24 | [av]bani | you're gonna scan them into your puter anyway, why not go direct |
| 05:15.32 | benjk | bullshit |
| 05:15.44 | benjk | for party snapshots, yes |
| 05:15.44 | [av]bani | the rebel is a nice cam |
| 05:15.53 | mrdigital | Red = FXO right? |
| 05:16.09 | [av]bani | i have an astronomer friend, nobody uses film in astronomy anymore |
| 05:16.10 | benjk | if you are into photography and you put your heart into the photos, digital is not right |
| 05:16.22 | benjk | not unless you spend 10.000 USD |
| 05:16.33 | [av]bani | digital is just so more flexible and robust |
| 05:16.50 | benjk | the good digital stuff is only affordable for professional photographers who can justify the cost |
| 05:16.58 | [av]bani | nah |
| 05:17.19 | [av]bani | i used to be a film elitist too, as did my friend |
| 05:17.20 | benjk | nothing beats low speed film yet |
| 05:17.28 | benjk | for still photography |
| 05:17.29 | [av]bani | both of us agree now that theres no future in film |
| 05:17.41 | [av]bani | maybe 5 years ago that was true |
| 05:17.43 | [av]bani | no more |
| 05:18.00 | benjk | it will take another few rounds of prices coming down to levels that ordinary folks can afford |
| 05:18.07 | [av]bani | eh? |
| 05:18.34 | [av]bani | ordinary folks dont buy 35mm with a bunch of lenses, they buy point&shoot |
| 05:19.08 | [av]bani | what you mean is, prices coming down on prosumer stuff for amateur photographers |
| 05:19.20 | [av]bani | pros already dont care about price |
| 05:19.39 | benjk | If I make photos with that old Yashica plastic point and shoot crap camera which has a Zeiss lens on it, and I use ASA 25 low speed film, you won't be able to match that with a digital camera for consumers |
| 05:19.43 | [av]bani | and for ordinary folks, a $300 p&s digicam is all they need, they dont have a clue about lenses |
| 05:20.12 | benjk | that's what I said earlier "party snapshots, yes" |
| 05:20.13 | [av]bani | yes, and your ordinary folks have NO CLUE about that stuff |
| 05:20.29 | [av]bani | so it's entirely irrelevant |
| 05:20.33 | benjk | but if you are into photography as a hobby, then not |
| 05:20.44 | benjk | I would love to use digital |
| 05:20.49 | benjk | but I cant afford it |
| 05:21.01 | [av]bani | if you're a film snob, sure you can play elitism and turn up your nose at digital the way people cling cesperately to their LPs and diss CDs |
| 05:21.21 | benjk | I have several digital cams but they don't match up to the 35mm stuff I have |
| 05:21.31 | [av]bani | well yea, you can buy a cheap canon with a stack of lenses for a couple hundred |
| 05:21.35 | benjk | thats hardly the same thing |
| 05:21.39 | [av]bani | but the film and development costs add up |
| 05:22.04 | [av]bani | we did some calculations and figured we could both afford a new digicam per year for what we spent on film + development |
| 05:22.11 | [av]bani | so it was an easy choice |
| 05:22.52 | benjk | the digital cameras that would be equivalent to my 35mm Contax or my medium format Bronica, would be above 10.000 USD |
| 05:23.00 | benjk | I don't shoot that many photos |
| 05:23.10 | [av]bani | yeah, and ordinary folks dont use medium format... |
| 05:23.17 | benjk | not in Japan |
| 05:23.18 | [av]bani | ordinary folks use polaroids :o |
| 05:23.40 | [av]bani | heh, in japan its all digital now |
| 05:23.45 | benjk | in Japan you go outside on a nice day and you will see ordinary folks with medium format cameras |
| 05:23.53 | benjk | even school girls have them |
| 05:23.59 | [av]bani | even my friend hiroki in tokyo switched to sony digicams |
| 05:24.03 | [av]bani | gave up film |
| 05:24.29 | [av]bani | school girls use PHS and the dumbass cameras in their phones |
| 05:24.46 | benjk | well, I know dozens of Japanese who have tried digital and they all say its only good for snapshots |
| 05:25.22 | [av]bani | yeah and i know dozens of japanese who tried film and prefer digital, your point? |
| 05:25.53 | benjk | well, every time I go to Shibuya, I see at least one girl that is around 20 years of age or younger with some medium format camera taking photos |
| 05:26.06 | [av]bani | and how many with digicams? |
| 05:26.17 | benjk | the digicams are for snapshots |
| 05:26.40 | benjk | somebody who is into photography as a *hobby* will still prefer film |
| 05:26.46 | benjk | not because of the film as such |
| 05:26.54 | [av]bani | because of elitism? |
| 05:27.09 | benjk | but because you cant get equivalent equipment yet at an affordable cost |
| 05:27.15 | [av]bani | its sorta like the "linux vs bsd" flamewars |
| 05:27.20 | benjk | nope |
| 05:27.24 | [av]bani | absolutely |
| 05:27.41 | [av]bani | if all you have is a hammer, everything you see is a nail |
| 05:28.03 | [av]bani | i was like you at one point, you'll come around eventually :)) |
| 05:28.10 | [av]bani | you sound like my friend about 5 years ago |
| 05:28.11 | benjk | I show my photos and even people who have absolutely no clue will point out which photos I made with my Contax and Carl Zeiss optics and which ones were taken with digital cameras in the same price range |
| 05:28.58 | benjk | you have to get a pro digital camera to match that, most photo hobbyists cant afford that |
| 05:30.18 | benjk | I will use digital when there is a digital Contax SLR that costs about the same as a 35mm film camera |
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| 05:30.38 | benjk | and when it is available in second hand stores because I can |
| 05:30.43 | [av]bani | no you won't :) |
| 05:30.45 | [av]bani | but thats ok |
| 05:30.49 | benjk | t afford to buy those cameras new anyway |
| 05:31.29 | benjk | I paid 500 USD for my Contax in a second hand store, together with a 50mm fixed Zeiss lens |
| 05:31.50 | benjk | the same camera (or its successor model) would have been almost 4 times as much new |
| 05:32.11 | benjk | an equivalent digital camera today would be above 6000 |
| 05:32.30 | benjk | when those come down to under 1000 in second hand shops, then I will switch |
| 05:33.04 | [av]bani | photography is a matter of religion, so its not possible to objectively discuss it |
| 05:33.17 | benjk | you can look at the results though |
| 05:33.18 | [av]bani | thats why i say its ok, i know i used to think like you :) |
| 05:33.58 | benjk | and my photos will beat anybody else's photos taken with a digital camera that isn't a professional camera |
| 05:34.15 | benjk | anybody can look at the prints and take their pick |
| 05:34.52 | benjk | why else do you think that professional photographers spend that much on the professional models? if it didn't make a difference? |
| 05:35.11 | benjk | they might as well use a consumer digital cam, but they wont |
| 05:35.28 | [av]bani | because theres not many cameras with 500mm lenses or ones which can do 15fps, they are spendy |
| 05:35.44 | [av]bani | most sports photographers use digital now |
| 05:35.59 | benjk | its not only sports photographers |
| 05:36.07 | benjk | fashion photographers use them too |
| 05:36.20 | benjk | but they don't use the models that ordinary folks could afford |
| 05:36.47 | [av]bani | you keep getting ordinary folks mixed up with pro equipment |
| 05:37.02 | benjk | those have to come down in price for photo hobbyists to be able to adfford them |
| 05:37.18 | benjk | by ordinary folks I mean hobbyists |
| 05:37.40 | [av]bani | if you take only a few rolls of film a year, maybe it wont matter |
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| 05:37.52 | benjk | for me consumer digital cameras are nowhere near what I get from a film based SLR |
| 05:38.06 | benjk | and the professional digital cameras I cannot afford |
| 05:38.22 | benjk | so, I am between a rock and a hard place |
| 05:38.25 | [av]bani | well, theres an old saying, poor artist blames his tools |
| 05:38.52 | benjk | I'd rather continue with film for non-snapshot stuff and wait until prices come down |
| 05:39.25 | benjk | I don't blame my tools - I praise them |
| 05:41.02 | benjk | take a look at this camera ... |
| 05:41.03 | benjk | http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Contax/contax_ndigital.asp |
| 05:41.25 | benjk | this is about the equivalent of my 35mm Contax |
| 05:41.33 | benjk | which I got for 500 bucks |
| 05:41.47 | benjk | which would have been around 2000 if I had bought it new |
| 05:41.56 | benjk | but the digital one is 7000 |
| 05:42.16 | qwertz | Hi, is it possible to use the regex (18|23) notation to match numbers 18 and 23? |
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| 05:42.33 | benjk | that has to come down to at least 1/3 of the price for hobbyists to afford it |
| 05:42.37 | Qwell | qwertz: no |
| 05:42.59 | Qwell | qwertz: about the best you can do is _[12][38], but that will also match 13 and 28 |
| 05:43.01 | benjk | qwertz, it is possible but you have to modify the code yourself |
| 05:43.09 | Qwell | You'd need to use 2 separate lines |
| 05:44.26 | mrdigital | benjk? |
| 05:44.40 | benjk | yes |
| 05:44.55 | mrdigital | once everything is installed how do i get the calls from each analog line to the phones? |
| 05:45.12 | Qwell | mrdigital: with a Dial() |
| 05:45.19 | qwertz | Qwell, benjk thanks |
| 05:45.20 | mrdigital | Dial()? |
| 05:45.26 | Qwell | show application dial |
| 05:46.10 | mrdigital | lets say, my client has 4 lines, 333-1111 333-2222 333-3333 333-4444 if anyone calls any of those # i want all the voip phones to ring |
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| 05:46.18 | benjk | BTW, the Digital Contax for 7000 USD only has an ISO range from 100 to 1600. The best nature photos I take I make with 25 low speed film and my camera goes down to ASA 8 even. So the 7000 USD camera isn't even up to what I need |
| 05:46.56 | qwertz | Qwell, could you please give an example of your 2 lines version, atm I'm copying the whole extension block for each single number that moves from ISDN to SIP, cause the numbers that switch are random |
| 05:47.04 | mrdigital | anyways night all |
| 05:47.09 | Qwell | qwertz: yep, you've got it |
| 05:47.35 | Qwell | qwertz: Does each SIP phone have the same dialplan? |
| 05:47.41 | benjk | mrdigital: Dial ( SIP/1111 & SIP/2222 & SIP/3333 .... |
| 05:47.43 | Qwell | I'd write a macro, if it's more than like 2 lines |
| 05:48.22 | Qwell | qwertz: 1234,1,Macro(newsipphones) |
| 05:48.26 | Qwell | qwertz: 1252,1,Macro(newsipphones) |
| 05:48.45 | Qwell | well...probably pass in the exten |
| 05:48.48 | Qwell | but, you get the picture |
| 05:48.55 | qwertz | Qwell, thanks for the suggestion will have a deeper look into the macro function |
| 05:49.08 | Qwell | qwertz: look at macro-stdexten in the sample config |
| 05:49.59 | [av]bani | http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=contax_ndigital%2Ccanon_eos5d&show=all |
| 05:51.42 | [av]bani | http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=contax_ndigital%2Cnikon_d200&show=all |
| 05:51.45 | [av]bani | hmm nice |
| 05:53.07 | [av]bani | the contax n seems discontinued... |
| 05:53.14 | [av]bani | street price $2800 or so |
| 05:55.14 | benjk | still only ISO 100 and the Canon won't take my Carl Zeiss lenses into which I have invested quite a bit over the years |
| 05:55.32 | [av]bani | poor you :) |
| 05:55.45 | ms345 | If I have ${CALLERIDNUM} equal to 4045551212 how can I get 4045551 ? Getting 1212 is easy with ${CALLERIDNUM}:-4 or ${CALLERIDNUM}:6 but how would I get 404555 or 4045551 ? |
| 05:55.48 | [av]bani | because of course, nobody buys carl zeiss lenses |
| 05:55.57 | [av]bani | and its impossible to sell them |
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| 05:56.27 | Qwell | ms345: Do you know the exact length you want to remove? |
| 05:56.40 | prestige | Can anyone recomend an iax provider with Toronto 416 DID's ? |
| 05:56.43 | ms345 | yes, 3 from the right end |
| 05:56.50 | benjk | As I said, once this stuff comes into the 1000 USD range on the second hand market, I will look into going digital for non-snapshot stuff |
| 05:57.29 | benjk | until then, I will do my party snapshots on my IXY and my photography hobby on my 35mm Contax |
| 05:57.30 | Qwell | ${EXTEN:0:$[${LEN(${EXTEN})} - 3]} |
| 05:57.57 | ms345 | gee - no wonder i couldn't figure it out |
| 05:58.13 | ms345 | but thank you a buch! |
| 05:58.26 | Qwell | ms345: try that, and let me know if it works...I might be off by one |
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| 05:58.39 | benjk | THe Canon also doesn't have Firewire and a lot of other things I would want if I was to shell out 3 grand |
| 05:59.38 | [av]bani | i'm sure you'll find some reason not to buy :) |
| 06:00.03 | prestige | hehe... looks like I am stuck with iax.cc then. Good company, I was just hoping to find something with unlimited outbound/inbound that came with a DID in the 416 area. ah well. |
| 06:02.01 | NewSole | prestige |
| 06:02.06 | NewSole | we do |
| 06:02.14 | prestige | you do? |
| 06:02.51 | ms345 | Qwell : thanks again, I changed EXTEN to CALLERIDNUM and got the 4045551 I needed |
| 06:03.46 | Qwell | jbot: learn stripmsd is ${EXTEN:0:$[${LEN(${EXTEN})} - 1]} , will remove the last digit from EXTEN, making 5551212 become 555121. Change the "1" to remove more digits. |
| 06:03.47 | jbot | I think you lost me on that one, Qwell |
| 06:03.51 | Qwell | bastard |
| 06:04.03 | Qwell | jbot: stripmsd is ${EXTEN:0:$[${LEN(${EXTEN})} - 1]} , will remove the last digit from EXTEN, making 5551212 become 555121. Change the "1" to remove more digits. |
| 06:04.04 | jbot | okay, Qwell |
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| 06:04.09 | Qwell | ~stripmsd |
| 06:04.11 | jbot | it has been said that stripmsd is ${EXTEN:0:$[${LEN(${EXTEN})} - 1]} , will remove the last digit from EXTEN, making 5551212 become 555121. Change the "1" to remove more digits. |
| 06:04.13 | Qwell | or is that lsd? whatever :p |
| 06:04.24 | Qwell | jbot: forget stripmsd |
| 06:04.24 | jbot | Qwell: i forgot stripmsd |
| 06:04.48 | Qwell | jbot: striplastdigit is ${EXTEN:0:$[${LEN(${EXTEN})} - 1]} , will remove the last digit from EXTEN, making 5551212 become 555121. Change the "1" to remove more digits. |
| 06:04.49 | jbot | okay, Qwell |
| 06:07.50 | Blankman | hey Qwell, in answer to the other question: 7.3 and 7.4 in prod. and 8.1 was what you were messing with today. |
| 06:09.24 | benjk | [av]bani: when I can afford this one second hand ... |
| 06:09.34 | benjk | http://www.contaxusa.com/product.asp?itemnum=190000 |
| 06:09.48 | benjk | then I'll go digital on non-snapshot stuff |
| 06:10.17 | benjk | ISO 6-6400 |
| 06:11.43 | Blankman | Qwell, also, just thought you would like to know that when I got the IAXy up, the voicemail stuff still wasn't right ... well it could read them and they new what they were, but when it went to play them it would "hangup" right away :-( Soooo. I just rebuild with out odbcstorage support and all is well on it ... but thought you might like to know that there is still an issue on the read. |
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| 06:19.35 | Qwell | Blankman: yeah, I bet you have an auto increment column |
| 06:21.22 | [hC] | derp derp |
| 06:21.31 | [hC] | sup qwell |
| 06:22.47 | Qwell | [hC]: VM strikes again |
| 06:27.24 | [hC] | Yet again, huh.. nice :) |
| 06:27.28 | [hC] | cant wait for 1.2.2 to fix that |
| 06:27.36 | [hC] | I saw a followup email on my bug |
| 06:27.46 | [hC] | personally, i want to see better remote VM capabilities |
| 06:27.54 | [hC] | I want to implement a VM server but its kinda difficult to deal w/ right now |
| 06:29.54 | Qwell | somebody should really just rewrite all of the odbcstorage stuff |
| 06:30.16 | Qwell | there is no reason it should save the file like it does |
| 06:32.52 | [hC] | yeah, db storage would be rad |
| 06:34.11 | Qwell | I mean...it works now, but... |
| 06:35.29 | Qwell | it also has a bunch of sql in it. res_odbc should take care of all of that |
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| 06:53.42 | [av]bani | sqlite |
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| 07:03.38 | [hC] | just tried google earth for the first time, on osx... man that is some wicked shit |
| 07:03.43 | [hC] | i want to see some 3d buildings though |
| 07:03.49 | [hC] | the clearest shots so far are of google's campus |
| 07:04.49 | Qwell | [hC]: look at like Cambridge, MA |
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| 07:07.06 | [hC] | funny enough cambridge's maps are empty right now for some reason |
| 07:07.19 | [hC] | oh.. when i turn on 3d buildings it goes blank |
| 07:07.20 | [hC] | must be a bug |
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| 07:11.12 | Math` | is there a way to include another AEL file from within another one? just like the #include statement of extensions.conf? |
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| 07:19.01 | Math` | oh well pbx_ael.c says no |
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| 07:25.39 | trixter | no |
| 07:25.44 | trixter | i asked earlier |
| 07:26.10 | Math` | whichs brings me to... "are #include statements of extensions.conf handled by pbx_config or in ast_config_internal_load()?" |
| 07:26.13 | Math` | which I asked on -dev |
| 07:27.50 | Math` | aha, ast_config_internal_load() loads the "standard format" config files, which the traditional extensions.conf is respecting |
| 07:28.03 | Math` | pbx_ael's just fopen() the file |
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| 08:06.46 | Triffid_Hunter | lol its 6pm here ;) |
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| 08:31.58 | trixter | welp I just gave away 3 free tickets to etel.. those went fast no free ones left only discounted ($200) |
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| 08:36.45 | davn | anyone using the ipp g729 codec in freebsd? |
| 08:36.57 | davn | i put the .so in /usr/local/lib/asterisk/modules and restarted, but nothing's changed |
| 08:40.35 | docelmo | You will not get a answer for that question.. |
| 08:41.20 | davn | no? |
| 08:41.27 | trixter | in the asterisk cli if you do 'show translation' do you see it listed? |
| 08:41.33 | trixter | with times not a - |
| 08:41.41 | davn | actually the 729 one does, but not 723 |
| 08:41.53 | davn | i.e. g723 is just dashes |
| 08:41.54 | docelmo | trixter he is asking abotu the free codec.. Go buy it... its only 10 buks |
| 08:42.29 | davn | it's only $10 but i'd have to wait a few days for it |
| 08:42.32 | trixter | yeah its only $10 per copy, which may not be an enforcable patent where he is I dont know and dont care that is his choice, further for his use he may not need it |
| 08:43.06 | trixter | and to say its only $10 implies some naiveity on your part.. you dont know how many concurrent licenses he would be using look at vonage at $10 per license it would cost them what $700k? |
| 08:43.20 | davn | digium will be compensated when i remain happy with the project and set it up at work, buying oodles of digium hardware :P |
| 08:43.20 | trixter | at any rate fbsdports comes with a g729 dummy |
| 08:43.28 | trixter | which doesnt relaly do anything but does show up in show translation |
| 08:43.33 | davn | oh ok |
| 08:43.50 | trixter | you may want to make sure dummy isnt there and being loaded and you may have to do load => g729.so or whatever its named in modules.conf |
| 08:43.56 | trixter | and it requires a restart not a reload |
| 08:44.00 | davn | yep |
| 08:44.48 | trixter | docelmo: do you use asterisk business edition? |
| 08:45.13 | trixter | if not why dont you goy but that, its not that much |
| 08:45.17 | trixter | er buy |
| 08:45.36 | davn | haha, why wouldn't my box have pthreads? |
| 08:46.08 | trixter | davn: you may also want to check your logs (perhaps enable 'full' in logger.conf) and see if the modules you think are loading actually are trying to load |
| 08:46.32 | trixter | changes to logger.conf also require a restart not just a reload |
| 08:46.45 | davn | i bet i need fbsd53 compat or something |
| 08:46.53 | trixter | what are you trying to use? |
| 08:46.56 | davn | yeah i'm tailing the messages log |
| 08:47.02 | davn | Dec 24 19:46:05 WARNING[78652]: Shared object "libm.so.6" not found, required by "codec_g729-gcc-athlon-sse.so" |
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| 08:47.12 | trixter | well messages may not be the whole thing, if you look in logger.conf it tends to log only some stuff there |
| 08:47.19 | trixter | ahh math lib |
| 08:47.51 | davn | it's just compiled on an older/newer system |
| 08:47.57 | trixter | you have to have that in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH or other place where the dynamic linking code can find it |
| 08:48.17 | trixter | it may also be a slightly different name |
| 08:48.21 | davn | well i have no libm.so.6 at all |
| 08:48.30 | trixter | try find /usr -name 'libm.so*' -print |
| 08:48.44 | docelmo | no |
| 08:48.44 | trixter | what version are you running asterisk in? |
| 08:48.47 | trixter | what fbsd ver |
| 08:48.48 | docelmo | 1.2.1 |
| 08:49.06 | trixter | what fbsd ver |
| 08:49.13 | davn | 5.4 |
| 08:49.29 | trixter | that *should* work but I dunno.. execute the find and see if you have anything anywhere |
| 08:50.17 | davn | /lib/libm.so.3 |
| 08:50.17 | davn | /usr/lib/libm.so |
| 08:50.17 | davn | /usr/local/lib/compat/libm.so.2 |
| 08:50.30 | davn | i just symlinked libm.so to libm.so.6 |
| 08:50.37 | trixter | Hmm.. |
| 08:50.42 | davn | oops |
| 08:50.42 | Qwell | unclean... |
| 08:50.43 | trixter | file g729.whatever |
| 08:50.46 | davn | i was using the linux ones |
| 08:50.46 | davn | hahaha |
| 08:51.06 | trixter | why I wanted you to do the file it would tell the difference :P |
| 08:51.13 | trixter | or should anyway |
| 08:53.15 | davn | so i have to load these in modules.conf right? |
| 08:53.43 | davn | g723 is still unsupported according to 'show translations' |
| 08:53.53 | davn | [modules] |
| 08:53.54 | davn | ... |
| 08:53.54 | davn | load => codec_g723-gcc-athlon-sse.so |
| 08:53.54 | davn | load => codec_g729-gcc-athlon-sse.so |
| 08:57.08 | davn | 'show modules' |
| 08:57.09 | davn | codec_g723-gcc-athlon-sse.so G723.1/PCM16 (signed linear) Codec Trans 0 |
| 08:57.12 | davn | codec_g729-gcc-athlon-sse.so G729/PCM16 (signed linear) Codec Transla 0 |
| 08:59.43 | davn | haha oops |
| 08:59.53 | davn | i was testing on what i thought was my number, but it was some poor woman |
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| 09:00.11 | davn | endless 1-2 second rings |
| 09:01.14 | davn | trixter: is this a good indication that at least g729 transcoding works? |
| 09:01.14 | davn | Peer User/ANR Call ID Seq (Tx/Rx) Format |
| 09:01.14 | davn | 202.177.222.24 0433026xxx 34267120229 00103/00000 g729 |
| 09:01.15 | davn | 10.10.10.12 2222 db889d7a-a9 00101/00102 ulaw |
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| 10:33.00 | drray | no, usually it's quite dry |
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| 10:37.41 | mog_home | morning |
| 10:39.09 | sbingner | davn: extension |
| 10:42.51 | drumkilla | mog_home: ? |
| 10:43.02 | drumkilla | are you usually up this early? |
| 10:45.05 | mog_home | i just drove home |
| 10:45.08 | mog_home | well almost home |
| 10:45.22 | mog_home | im 8 miles from home |
| 10:45.27 | mog_home | but close enough |
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| 10:49.51 | drumkilla | heh, gotcha |
| 10:49.57 | drumkilla | I just can't sleep |
| 10:51.46 | davn | sbingner: i have to change the sip.conf entry for the vsp as well, right |
| 10:51.57 | davn | i have one account but with two dids |
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| 10:54.28 | chrisr84 | i need help with remote caller id spoofing |
| 10:54.53 | drumkilla | laaaaammmee |
| 10:54.59 | chrisr84 | ? |
| 10:55.04 | drumkilla | :-p |
| 10:55.07 | sbingner | look at line 137 of sip.conf.sample |
| 10:55.10 | davn | the DID will come up as the extension right? |
| 10:55.14 | mog_home | huh drumkilla? |
| 10:55.27 | drumkilla | mog_home: don't mind me |
| 10:55.36 | drumkilla | I'm sick and sleep deprived. |
| 10:56.52 | mog_home | heh okies |
| 10:57.53 | digime | I want to auto dial based on a database. I want to be able to record a 30 second message, have the machine call 50,000 phone numbers and play the message, and if the callee wants to talk more they can press 1 (or whatever) and be transfered to a 'fronter'. I want * to logically dial enough calls to keep all of the 'fronters' busy without having to drop too many live calls because there aren't enough 'fronters'. |
| 10:58.07 | sbingner | davn: yea it should |
| 10:58.13 | digime | Any knowledge of an * solution for this? |
| 10:58.53 | mog_home | yeah you can do that digime |
| 10:58.53 | drumkilla | digime: there are a couple open source setups for this ... vicidial, and gnudialer |
| 10:58.57 | mog_home | its fairly simple |
| 10:58.58 | drumkilla | i believe that's what they are |
| 10:59.08 | mog_home | not the nicest thing though |
| 10:59.27 | chrisr84 | <sbingner> look at line 137 of sip.conf.sample |
| 10:59.37 | chrisr84 | what do i have to change with that? |
| 10:59.57 | digime | mog_home yeah |
| 11:00.00 | chrisr84 | i dont seem tohave a sample versino.. i already added stuff withnin it |
| 11:00.07 | sbingner | chrisr84: was to davn |
| 11:00.22 | digime | mog_home running 1.2.1 |
| 11:00.24 | sbingner | davn: http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html has decent example |
| 11:00.43 | mog_home | yeah its not that bad digime, i just am not real happy with auto dialing |
| 11:00.50 | mog_home | but meh people do it |
| 11:00.52 | digime | mog_home yeah i hear u |
| 11:01.08 | digime | mog_home I am just trying to do diff. things and see if it works |
| 11:01.21 | drumkilla | digime: did you see my comment? |
| 11:01.45 | drumkilla | i would recommend looking at those before trying to build something yourself |
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| 11:01.53 | digime | drumkilla ah missed that ok where can I see them? I was looking for something that could hook with * |
| 11:02.00 | sbingner | digime: kill all telemarketers... and anybody who calls anybody with a machine., |
| 11:02.16 | digime | eheheh |
| 11:02.24 | drumkilla | digime: those are just some frontend scripts, web gui stuff, etc. on asterisk |
| 11:02.56 | chrisr84 | <sbingner> the problem that i am having is that it is coming up unknoiwn... |
| 11:03.05 | chrisr84 | ive set up a 800 number and everything |
| 11:03.26 | chrisr84 | it asks for the number im callling from and then where im calling to |
| 11:03.27 | digime | drumkilla: it has to look into asterisk because i am using it in production and the calling system has to tie into it |
| 11:03.35 | sbingner | chrisr84: they need to be calling that extension on your hostwith SIP, if your provider doesn't do that then it won't work |
| 11:03.44 | sbingner | er |
| 11:03.44 | sbingner | wtf |
| 11:03.45 | sbingner | mis |
| 11:03.47 | sbingner | lol |
| 11:04.28 | sbingner | chrisr84: callerid=John Doe <1234> ; in sip.conf |
| 11:04.34 | sbingner | assuming you're making calls with sip |
| 11:05.06 | sbingner | just make sure it's the right source number, not spoofing |
| 11:05.13 | chrisr84 | i want to be doing it remotely with my cell phone... |
| 11:05.26 | sbingner | then don't set it and it should keep your callerid |
| 11:05.41 | chrisr84 | i tend to get my minutes up high on it so iwant to spoof nujmber i know ill be at during that time so as to cut back on the bill |
| 11:05.42 | chrisr84 | lol |
| 11:06.13 | sbingner | that sounds like it could be illegal, I wouldn't reccomend that |
| 11:06.22 | chrisr84 | ? |
| 11:06.23 | drumkilla | sbingner: no, it is not. |
| 11:06.28 | chrisr84 | from what i understand its not |
| 11:06.33 | drumkilla | sbingner: see the CALLERID dialplan function |
| 11:06.39 | sbingner | I may misunderstand what youre saying then |
| 11:06.41 | chrisr84 | im not going to be prank calling anyone |
| 11:06.50 | chrisr84 | and im not using 911 |
| 11:06.51 | chrisr84 | lol |
| 11:07.07 | chrisr84 | so it should be within the law |
| 11:07.08 | sbingner | chrisr84: anyways see "show application SetCallerID" |
| 11:07.20 | drumkilla | chrisr84: exten => blah,1,Set(CALLERID(all)=...) |
| 11:07.29 | drumkilla | sbingner: the SetCallerID application has been deprecated |
| 11:07.45 | sbingner | aah, my bad heh it should tell me these things :b |
| 11:08.03 | drumkilla | chrisr84: you can store the number you currently want to use in the internal Asterisk database, so you can do something like ... |
| 11:08.40 | drumkilla | Set(CALLERID(num)=${DB(chris/currentcidnum)}) |
| 11:09.02 | drumkilla | makes perfect sense, right? ;) |
| 11:09.04 | sbingner | chrisr84: I understand what you were saying now, you want to spoof the landline you're calling from near to |
| 11:09.11 | chrisr84 | yes |
| 11:09.16 | chrisr84 | if im at a friends house... |
| 11:09.21 | sbingner | thougt you meant somehow calling a cell and tricking it into thinking it was a free call or something |
| 11:09.21 | chrisr84 | ill spoof their number |
| 11:09.29 | chrisr84 | noiooooooooo |
| 11:09.31 | chrisr84 | thats stupid |
| 11:09.36 | chrisr84 | the goverment would be on my ass |
| 11:09.37 | chrisr84 | lol |
| 11:09.46 | chrisr84 | government* |
| 11:10.06 | chrisr84 | not to mention the phone company itself |
| 11:10.06 | chrisr84 | lol |
| 11:10.57 | sbingner | chrisr84: http://pastebin.ca/34786 is how I do that |
| 11:11.08 | sbingner | should be simple enough to modify it to not be depreciated anymore |
| 11:11.17 | chrisr84 | this code: Set(CALLERID(num)=${DB(chris/currentcidnum)}) doesnt allow for altering your caller id correct? |
| 11:11.44 | sbingner | it's kinda ugly ;) |
| 11:13.01 | chrisr84 | sbingner thanks ill try it out |
| 11:13.01 | chrisr84 | brb |
| 11:13.10 | drumkilla | doesn't? no, it does ... if you had what you currently wanted it to be set as in the astdb, in the family/key - chris/currentcidnum |
| 11:13.48 | sbingner | but it doesn't let you enter it from the phone you're calling from |
| 11:13.54 | sbingner | I think thats what he wants |
| 11:14.12 | drumkilla | I was just talking about the step where it gets set |
| 11:14.22 | drumkilla | if you wanted to enter it in every time you called, you'd use Read |
| 11:14.41 | sbingner | heh much better than my hack |
| 11:15.04 | sbingner | it's like 2 years old tho ;) |
| 11:15.39 | sbingner | when was Read added to *? I swear it wasnt there when I did that |
| 11:15.57 | drumkilla | exten => blah,1,Read(NEWCIDNUM) exten => blah,2,Set(CALLERID(num)=${NEWCIDNUM}) |
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| 11:16.39 | drumkilla | i don't know when it was added, but well over a year, at least |
| 11:17.01 | sbingner | yea I think I remember heh |
| 11:17.13 | sbingner | I need to redo my whole dialplan |
| 11:18.08 | sbingner | is there a way to access astdb externally now? |
| 11:18.15 | sbingner | I couldnt find it last time I looked |
| 11:18.34 | drumkilla | through the manager interface ... |
| 11:18.38 | sbingner | I store a bunch of stuff for remote IAXys in there, and wanted to update it from a webpage |
| 11:19.13 | drumkilla | manager interface would work for that |
| 11:19.29 | davn | i'm having trouble getting the sip-in context in extensions.conf to an extension to handle |
| 11:19.48 | sbingner | cool |
| 11:19.59 | davn | the register line in sip.conf has 2214 as the ext, and that's what's in extensions.conf |
| 11:20.03 | davn | isn't that enough to work? |
| 11:20.07 | chrisr84 | well basically.... my other one has only the minor problem of showing up as unknown |
| 11:20.27 | chrisr84 | it asks all the prompts |
| 11:20.51 | chrisr84 | no i think a line or two is missing from mine... which sucks |
| 11:20.56 | chrisr84 | and... i suck at asterisk |
| 11:20.57 | chrisr84 | lol |
| 11:21.28 | mog_home | heh russell |
| 11:21.33 | mog_home | i like your facebook picture |
| 11:21.42 | drumkilla | mog_home: thanks :) |
| 11:21.44 | mog_home | i see you have replaced your one true love |
| 11:21.44 | drumkilla | that's bottleman |
| 11:22.09 | drumkilla | replaced my one true love? |
| 11:22.14 | drumkilla | what was that? |
| 11:22.35 | sbingner | davn: and sip-in is your default context in sip.conf? |
| 11:22.37 | chrisr84 | well im going to bed i shall look at all this in more detail tomorrow.. |
| 11:22.38 | mog_home | your former bottle |
| 11:22.39 | chrisr84 | night all |
| 11:22.43 | mog_home | the one on my desk |
| 11:22.55 | drumkilla | oh, haha |
| 11:23.24 | drumkilla | i'm a water bottle whore |
| 11:23.49 | sbingner | drumkilla: we got a guy at work like that, his desk is COVERED in half-full water bottles |
| 11:24.00 | drumkilla | nice |
| 11:24.14 | davn | sbingner: yeah |
| 11:24.36 | davn | sbingner: it looks like my vsp is only ever sending the vsp id, not the did number? |
| 11:25.12 | sbingner | davn: I've never actually had a DID over sip... as far as I know that's right... maybe somebody else knows more.... you could try not defining the extension in the register command |
| 11:25.36 | sbingner | do you have a register command for each DID? |
| 11:25.48 | sbingner | or they both the same user? |
| 11:25.52 | davn | same user |
| 11:26.38 | sbingner | you couldn't very well define an extension in the register command then... unless I'm missing something it would make them all route to that exten |
| 11:28.01 | davn | it doesn't seem to pay any attention anyway |
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| 11:28.28 | davn | i have register => <id>:<pass>@<vsp> |
| 11:28.49 | davn | i'm just trying to match the DID in the extensions.conf |
| 11:28.55 | davn | it only seems to ever pick up that <id> |
| 11:28.59 | sbingner | you have a [user] entry too? |
| 11:29.47 | davn | yeah |
| 11:29.49 | sbingner | anybody else want to jump in here? I'm not too sure about what I'm saying ;) |
| 11:29.59 | davn | that doesn't seem to be linked to incoming calls as far as i can see |
| 11:30.20 | davn | actually i said that wrong :) |
| 11:30.46 | davn | the user entry works, if i match <id> i can send the call to my handset yes |
| 11:30.53 | sbingner | davn: try a sip debug and see if you see any info that would be useful perhaps |
| 11:31.34 | sbingner | do you need to register? the IP address of your server isn't registered with them? |
| 11:32.09 | davn | Looking for 09111279 in sip-in |
| 11:32.23 | davn | i need it to look for my DID in sip-in |
| 11:32.35 | sbingner | what kinda DID is that |
| 11:32.39 | sbingner | heh |
| 11:32.52 | davn | that's not the DID |
| 11:32.58 | davn | it's the vsp user id |
| 11:33.01 | sbingner | oh |
| 11:34.44 | sbingner | try looking at ${DNID} |
| 11:35.57 | sbingner | also ${SIPURI} |
| 11:36.42 | sbingner | still seems it should be different extens in the sip default context |
| 11:37.28 | davn | how do i use those variables to match a call? |
| 11:37.41 | davn | exten => ${DNID},... ? |
| 11:38.27 | sbingner | Goto(${DNID}|1) if it's right should work |
| 11:38.58 | sbingner | but that's assuming that the DNID is valid |
| 11:39.07 | davn | valid how? |
| 11:39.20 | sbingner | valid like being set to something meaningful |
| 11:39.27 | davn | ahh |
| 11:39.50 | davn | what's the |1? |
| 11:39.55 | sbingner | priproty one |
| 11:39.58 | sbingner | priority |
| 11:40.14 | sbingner | it will go to exten => <value of DNID>,1 |
| 11:40.18 | sbingner | in the current context |
| 11:40.28 | sbingner | Goto([[context|]extension|]priority) |
| 11:40.44 | sbingner | Goto(2) = goto priority 2 in current extension |
| 11:40.58 | davn | yay infinite loop |
| 11:40.59 | sbingner | Goto(123|2) = goto priority 2 in extension 123 in current context |
| 11:41.00 | sbingner | etc |
| 11:41.04 | davn | looks like ${DNID} is set to the vsp id |
| 11:41.05 | sbingner | lol |
| 11:41.08 | sbingner | that sucks |
| 11:41.20 | sbingner | what about SIPURI |
| 11:42.27 | davn | Channel 'SIP/09111279-e7bb' sent into invalid extension '' in context 'sip-in', |
| 11:42.31 | davn | empty |
| 11:42.37 | davn | this looks interesting: http://asterisk.gnuinter.net/patches/asterisk-dnid.patch |
| 11:43.54 | sbingner | yea your DNID wasnt set |
| 11:44.12 | sbingner | I think you're screwed |
| 11:44.24 | sbingner | your provider isn't sending you the info you need |
| 11:44.35 | sbingner | unless I'm missing something |
| 11:45.02 | sbingner | they don't have any instructions for DIDs? |
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| 11:45.20 | davn | no |
| 11:45.25 | sbingner | who is it? |
| 11:45.29 | davn | their asterisk examples don't deal with DIDs at all |
| 11:45.32 | davn | mynetfone.com.au |
| 11:49.14 | sbingner | I'd say put the second did on a differnt 'mynetfone' number |
| 11:49.17 | sbingner | heh |
| 11:50.47 | davn | yeah that would be the easiest |
| 11:51.18 | davn | we have used the numbers a fair bit though, so people will need to be informed etc.. so i'll keep ramming my head against sip.conf heh |
| 11:52.27 | sbingner | davn: you've tried register => user:secret@host without the /exten? |
| 11:53.01 | davn | yep |
| 11:53.13 | davn | it's been like that for a while |
| 11:53.55 | sbingner | and it doesn't end up in the 's' exten? |
| 11:54.26 | davn | i didn't know i had one |
| 11:54.29 | drray | does the context even have an "s" extension? |
| 11:54.33 | davn | anyway, show channel SIP/sdfsdf |
| 11:54.33 | davn | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.43 | swm_ | anyone ever try snorting crack in a coffee grinder :) |
| 11:56.41 | sbingner | ................. |
| 11:57.09 | rLg | hey there, GotoIfTime is not working for me.. is that still being supported in new asterisk version? |
| 11:58.11 | sbingner | davn: I have the feeling they're just calling your userid at your host then, and you'll need to get a second userid with them or something.... but you should be able to keep the same DID number ... or you could try calling them and asking them to send the right DNID |
| 11:58.29 | sbingner | anyways, nigh |
| 11:58.31 | sbingner | +t |
| 11:58.53 | davn | thanks sbingner |
| 12:03.22 | davn | doesn't look like my sipphone.com calls get the dnid either |
| 12:04.25 | swm_ | denied? |
| 12:04.44 | swm_ | Ever give a rim job to a dog? Press 1 for Yes and 2 for No :) |
| 12:06.02 | swm_ | ** Question on a online psych test ** |
| 12:11.15 | drray | ever sniff the bike seats, of the bikes parked out front of an elementary school |
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| 12:43.04 | Gh0sty | hello |
| 12:43.49 | Gh0sty | are there any special forwardings needed when the clients sip phone is behind a nat? |
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| 12:46.05 | RoyK | merry [insert greetings here] |
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| 13:42.52 | Damin | Happy Merry X-Mas Eve! |
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| 14:50.39 | yacine64 | hello, can somone help on installing unicall for MFC/R2 use ? |
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| 15:02.05 | tzafrir_home | Mary who? |
| 15:02.28 | joat | who's getting married? |
| 15:03.22 | coppice | yacine64: nope |
| 15:03.25 | RoyK | Merry yule :) |
| 15:03.39 | coppice | merry solstice, 3 days late |
| 15:03.48 | xheliox | :) |
| 15:05.11 | yacine64 | coppice, so ? |
| 15:07.33 | coppice | yacine64: so go to www.soft-switch.org, and follow the instructions |
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| 15:16.02 | NewSole | Merry F$#&@% HO HO..... Evey One |
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| 15:17.15 | Riggzy | Hey - can I just ask a Q to sort out a myth of mine about Asterisk? ;) |
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| 15:18.48 | NewSole | Riggzy.... you can ask but cant say you will get an answer |
| 15:19.16 | coppice | its the season of myths |
| 15:19.25 | Riggzy | :P |
| 15:20.01 | coppice | its not a myth that * can support R2 signalling, as hopefully yacine64 is finding out :-) |
| 15:20.08 | Riggzy | It *is* true that the modem card that's bunged into your PC can't interface with Asterisk... ? |
| 15:20.41 | Riggzy | Some friends are getting confused lol |
| 15:20.51 | coppice | Riggzy: if its a intel 537 based modem it probably can. otherwise there is no driver available |
| 15:21.31 | Riggzy | Ah, ok :) |
| 15:22.19 | Riggzy | THis is a specific Asterisk driver, or a kernel driver? |
| 15:22.41 | coppice | a kernel driver |
| 15:25.05 | Riggzy | So in theory if a kernel driver is availiable for the modem it could work, or am I barking up the wrong tree? |
| 15:26.23 | coppice | you develop a driver and fame and no fortune will be yours |
| 15:26.57 | Riggzy | hehe |
| 15:27.37 | Riggzy | Nah, I just imagined there would be opensource drivers for a fair few modem cards |
| 15:28.41 | file[laptop] | well, you can't just use any ol' modem |
| 15:28.49 | file[laptop] | it would have to be a full duplex voice modem |
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| 15:29.07 | coppice | Riggy: people whine, but they don't develop |
| 15:30.18 | coppice | file: the wcfxo driver bypassed all that, and drives the hardware directly |
| 15:30.59 | file[laptop] | cheaters! |
| 15:32.09 | tzafrir_home | file[laptop], which full-duplex modems work? with chan_modem? Will my old external modem work? |
| 15:32.11 | coppice | i've never seen a full duplex voice modem |
| 15:32.28 | file[laptop] | coppice: I found a few once |
| 15:32.37 | coppice | like which? |
| 15:32.39 | file[laptop] | but chan_modem doesn't exist anymore tzafrir_home |
| 15:32.46 | file[laptop] | coppice: I don't remember, I looked 2 years ago lol |
| 15:33.21 | coppice | chan_modem worked with the half-duplex voice modems, but obvious was very limited |
| 15:34.20 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, like you obviously couldn't talk at the same time... |
| 15:35.01 | Corydon76-home | That could work very well for a telemarketer, come to think of it |
| 15:35.23 | xheliox | Might be fun, but I question how effective it would be. |
| 15:35.30 | xheliox | Otherwise, why not just play a recording? |
| 15:35.35 | xheliox | :) |
| 15:35.47 | Corydon76-home | Good for that, too |
| 15:36.13 | Corydon76-home | xheliox: well, you can occasionally reverse the path to allow the person to respond |
| 15:36.46 | xheliox | Yeah, but despite it's social rudeness, being able to interrupt someone is usually a pretty critical key to communication. |
| 15:37.22 | Corydon76-home | which is why it would work great for a telemarketer... ;-) |
| 15:37.53 | xheliox | Right, because I'm going to buy your friggin timeshare if I can't at least ask if Ponch from CHiPS will be there. |
| 15:38.54 | xheliox | And unless you watch an stupid about of basic US cable.. that reference is probably really strange. |
| 15:39.02 | xheliox | a stupid amount* |
| 15:41.05 | _Sam-- | sorry to sound stupid but what is "Asterisk Business Edition" ? |
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| 15:43.42 | Corydon76-home | It's a corporate supported edition for people who think they need Red Hat Enterprise |
| 15:44.00 | _Sam-- | does it have a gui or anything useful? |
| 15:44.13 | QbY | anyone have any suggestions for vorice recognition on asterisk? |
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| 15:44.22 | Corydon76-home | Or in other words, it's expensive software for the people who think that free software must be bad |
| 15:44.41 | Corydon76-home | _Sam--: it has nothing that Asterisk doesn't already have |
| 15:44.48 | _Sam-- | thanks |
| 15:45.20 | Corydon76-home | _Sam--: the essence of what you're paying for with ABE is corporate level support, along with the assurance that it's been extensively tested on a certain platform |
| 15:45.54 | Corydon76-home | Meaning, they put together machines from different OEMs, in a high-end configuration and tested the heck out of it |
| 15:46.20 | Corydon76-home | but any improvemetnt to ABE also goes into the Asterisk trunk |
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| 15:54.23 | ManxPower | Corydon-w, It sure would be nice to get a list of "ABE Certified" boxes. |
| 15:55.10 | Corydon76-home | ManxPower: there is such a list on Digium's website |
| 15:55.20 | Corydon76-home | It comprises 2 machines, at last check |
| 15:55.25 | ManxPower | Corydon-w, There is? That must be new. |
| 15:55.42 | ManxPower | The LAST time I got a machine off a list on Digium's web site I almost lost a client. |
| 15:56.24 | Corydon76-home | http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=product_detail&category=software&product=ABE&tab=compatibility |
| 15:56.52 | ManxPower | Corydon-w, thanks |
| 15:56.52 | Corydon76-home | Look down in the "Servers" category |
| 15:57.21 | xheliox | You'd think they'd have a more extensive list.. |
| 15:57.42 | Corydon76-home | Not for corporate support, no. |
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| 15:57.55 | Corydon76-home | Remember, this is exclusive corporate support |
| 15:58.09 | ManxPower | If the list is accurate I don't care how many machines are on the list as long as there's at least 1 |
| 15:58.19 | Corydon76-home | So if you want that support category, they severely limit the hardware and OS's you can use |
| 15:58.50 | Corydon76-home | Now, if you get any Digium hardware and call support, they'll help you on virtually any platform and OS |
| 15:58.59 | file[desk] | hrm |
| 15:59.02 | Corydon76-home | Well, presuming it's a Linux distro |
| 15:59.06 | file[desk] | an eMachines on sale for $249.99 on boxing day... |
| 15:59.11 | file[desk] | looks like I have something to add to my list |
| 16:00.29 | file[desk] | and a hard drive... |
| 16:00.35 | Corydon76-home | Heh |
| 16:00.44 | ManxPower | eMachines is what I recommend to people I hate. |
| 16:00.51 | Corydon76-home | eMachines doesn't include a hard drive? |
| 16:01.10 | file[desk] | Corydon76-home: why have one, when you can get two? |
| 16:01.15 | file[desk] | 250GB for $85 |
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| 16:01.42 | Corydon76-home | I agree, there... my desktop has two drives, in mirrored configuration |
| 16:01.51 | file[desk] | this is for a server/router |
| 16:01.59 | file[desk] | wireless g router and usb 2.0 adapter, $9.98 CAD |
| 16:02.09 | Corydon76-home | Hah, you're using an eMachines for a server? |
| 16:02.28 | Corydon76-home | Wow... that's like .02US, right? |
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| 16:03.00 | file[desk] | you do realize the US dollar is doing badly so that joke isn't exactly the best to use anymore? :P |
| 16:03.20 | QbY | what i would give to be able to listen to a channel live.. |
| 16:03.32 | file[desk] | QbY: your soul? well, I collect those |
| 16:03.42 | QbY | hehehe.. is it possible? |
| 16:03.59 | Corydon76-home | Festival |
| 16:05.09 | Corydon76-home | file[desk]: The Canadian dollar is still worth less than the US dollar |
| 16:05.12 | coppice | it sure is. 5 minutes in to the 25th now :-) |
| 16:05.35 | file[desk] | Corydon76-home: the US dollar is not that good anymore, which makes my paycheck depressing :P |
| 16:05.36 | benjk | 1 hour 5 mins |
| 16:05.37 | Corydon76-home | Merry Xmas, coppice |
| 16:05.54 | QbY | Corydon76- was that Festival for me? |
| 16:05.58 | Corydon76-home | Yes |
| 16:06.11 | Corydon76-home | Merry Xmas, Ben |
| 16:06.12 | QbY | to listen to a phone call? |
| 16:06.19 | QbY | i thought it was for TTS |
| 16:06.32 | Corydon76-home | To listen to a channel? |
| 16:06.33 | benjk | and to you |
| 16:06.42 | Corydon76-home | A channel is text... |
| 16:06.50 | QbY | oh.. sorry, i meant a phone call |
| 16:07.04 | Corydon76-home | This is the #asterisk channel |
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| 16:07.45 | QbY | oh.. i get ya.. i meant channel as in a phone call on the switch.. i'd like to listen to my agents live.. only thing i can do now, is listen to the monitor in or out file until they hang up |
| 16:08.01 | Corydon76-home | Uh, how about ChanSpy ? |
| 16:08.50 | Corydon76-home | Although if you use ChanSpy, I would highly recommend that you be using the latest 1.2, NOT 1.2.1 |
| 16:09.32 | QbY | my asterisk version is 1.0.7 |
| 16:10.47 | QbY | hey. i tried to upgrade a while back, and something went awry.. and i really can't have the system off long.. |
| 16:13.43 | Corydon76-home | Yeah... this is why you should have two machines... one for production and one to hot-swap |
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| 16:14.14 | Corydon76-home | QbY: are you using zaptel channels? |
| 16:14.15 | QbY | is there a prescribed method of upgrade? (link?) i'm going to do it today while call volume is low.. |
| 16:14.19 | QbY | no we are pure voip |
| 16:14.33 | Corydon76-home | So chanspy is the only way you can do spying |
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| 16:17.42 | file[desk] | well... there is a way |
| 16:17.53 | file[desk] | it's evil |
| 16:17.59 | QbY | ?? |
| 16:18.14 | file[desk] | there's a zaptel driver that you can loop calls through, essentially you dial a call out through it and it comes back into the dialplan |
| 16:18.20 | file[desk] | but you can use all the zaptel stuff like barging on it |
| 16:19.14 | QbY | got an example of it? |
| 16:19.23 | file[desk] | not handy, noooo |
| 16:20.10 | QbY | so, my big question is. when i upgrade, did the configuration files change at all? |
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| 16:21.29 | Corydon76-home | Not in a "change this now or it won't work" way |
| 16:21.48 | Corydon76-home | That won't be true going from 1.0 to 1.4, however |
| 16:22.07 | QbY | k. |
| 16:23.17 | QbY | Corydon.. So you are suggesting only upgrade to 1.2 not 1.2.1 correct? |
| 16:27.13 | Corydon76-home | No, I'm suggesting upgrading PAST 1.2.1 |
| 16:27.32 | Corydon76-home | to the 1.2 branch, that will become 1.2.2 |
| 16:28.05 | Corydon76-home | I personally have fixed an issue with ChanSpy that manifested in 1.2.1... that fix is in the tree |
| 16:28.37 | coppice | I speak of the future version what will be called "the earth" :-) |
| 16:29.35 | QbY | so.. http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/branches/1.2 asterisk-1.2 would be what i want.. |
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| 16:30.43 | Corydon76-home | Yes |
| 16:31.09 | QbY | here goes nothig |
| 16:33.24 | NewSole | Corydon76-home when did you post that patch |
| 16:33.43 | Corydon76-home | NewSole: It's been at least a week |
| 16:34.01 | NewSole | ok cause I just did update last nite |
| 16:34.07 | VoIPMasta | can someone recommend a good termination provider with no volume commitments required? |
| 16:34.12 | Corydon76-home | NewSole: the fix isn't actually in chanspy... it's in include/asterisk/linkedlists.h |
| 16:34.46 | QbY | VoIP. We use connect.voicepulse.com -- and like it.. |
| 16:34.49 | scubasteve | VoIPMasta: sellvoip.net is my provide. |
| 16:34.50 | QbY | 2cents /min |
| 16:35.09 | file[desk] | QbY: they raised their prices, it's 2.4 now |
| 16:35.14 | VoIPMasta | scubasteve: do they allow multiple calls at the same time? |
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| 16:35.27 | scubasteve | VoIPMasta: Yes. 729/711. |
| 16:35.32 | QbY | file.. i didn't know that.. i shall start looking for a new one.. |
| 16:35.43 | QbY | file.. we like the IAX.. who else offers that? |
| 16:35.49 | VoIPMasta | scubasteve 729/711 do you mean codecs? |
| 16:35.50 | file[desk] | QbY: TONS |
| 16:35.53 | scubasteve | VoIPMasta: They kick ass. Shoot me an email -- steve@miselconsulting.com and I'll get your info to them. |
| 16:35.54 | NewSole | we do Qby |
| 16:36.10 | scubasteve | VoIPMasta: DID's are $1 setup, $1/mo, unlimited channels, 1.1c/min |
| 16:36.24 | QbY | scuba where is that? |
| 16:36.26 | scubasteve | VoIPMasta: US termination varies by rate center, most are 1c/min |
| 16:36.32 | scubasteve | QbY: sellvoip.net |
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| 16:36.43 | QbY | scuba.. what about rates to canada.. our call center is in canada.. :( |
| 16:37.01 | scubasteve | QbY, see sellvoip.net and look up the rate... I don't call Canada, so I couldn't tell ya. |
| 16:37.19 | ManxPower | Most ITSPs charge the same for calls to USA and Canada |
| 16:37.37 | scubasteve | Hey Manx, LTNS. |
| 16:37.44 | VoIPMasta | scubasteve: will give them a try, even when their rates aren't the lowest |
| 16:37.44 | ManxPower | hello, scubasteve |
| 16:37.46 | QbY | that toll free rate looks great.. but i'm so leary of toll free after my broadvoice incident.. |
| 16:37.59 | ManxPower | scubasteve, I've not been online a lot since the Storm of Doom |
| 16:38.29 | scubasteve | Manx, which storm? Kat? |
| 16:38.39 | ManxPower | scubasteve, *nod* |
| 16:38.49 | scubasteve | Manx, that really sucks. |
| 16:39.03 | ManxPower | I moved to the top of a mountian in central alabama 8-) |
| 16:39.17 | scubasteve | Manx, that's one way to get away from storm surge..:-) |
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| 16:40.05 | ManxPower | scubasteve, 8-) It's quite nice up here. The only drawback is that it's 10 miles to the nearest store, I'll 11 miles from the CO |
| 16:40.28 | scubasteve | Manx, I have the same situation.. am in the rural area outside of Research Triangle Park (Raleigh) NC |
| 16:40.48 | scubasteve | Grocery store is 10 miles away... but.. I got a lot of privacy and a lot of house for the $. |
| 16:40.54 | ManxPower | On the other hand there's a hottub on the property. |
| 16:41.01 | scubasteve | Ding, same here :-) |
| 16:41.31 | ManxPower | scubasteve, *nod* I might have Data/Voice T-1 installed around april. |
| 16:42.02 | scubasteve | Manx, thankfully the cable co came this way about 2 years back.. |
| 16:42.11 | ManxPower | Ah. No cable here. |
| 16:42.26 | ManxPower | I'm using someone's DirecTV connection (with permission) |
| 16:42.41 | scubasteve | Hey, do you know what I'd need to do ... in order to write a non-GPL app_ for * ... license wise? |
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| 16:42.55 | scubasteve | DTV, tried that a few years ago... it was unusable. Can't imagine it's any better. |
| 16:43.37 | ManxPower | Until moving here I had nothing against trees and bushes. Now I want to cut them all down. Damn WiFi absorbing communist pink plants |
| 16:43.44 | ManxPower | pinko that is. |
| 16:43.54 | scubasteve | LOL |
| 16:44.09 | QbY | so.. where does everyone get this service that they resale? |
| 16:44.32 | scubasteve | QbY: My provider uses L3, Quest and MCI.... |
| 16:44.32 | ManxPower | QbY, The crappy ones get it from other ITSPs, the good ones get it from Level3 or similar. |
| 16:44.48 | QbY | because our customers (we are a cable ISP) are always asking for us to roll out some VoIP |
| 16:44.53 | ManxPower | (for DID). For outbound they just get a T-1 from any provider |
| 16:44.59 | QbY | but at 2c/minute that's a bit high.. |
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| 16:45.19 | scubasteve | QbY: Understood... you can get really good rates from the big boys, but your commit will be insane... |
| 16:45.30 | QbY | ah.. |
| 16:45.30 | my007ms | hi all |
| 16:45.45 | QbY | so i'd be better partnering with someone who already has it, and just pass it through |
| 16:46.33 | ManxPower | QbY, or just partner with someone and promote their service and let the customer pay them directly |
| 16:46.51 | scubasteve | QbY: Yes... You might be able to do a small commit with someone like Sellvoip and get a lower rate... also, I suspect if you pay with check/bank, they'd drop the rate by the PayPal fee... I think something like 3-5%... |
| 16:47.07 | scubasteve | Don't hold me to it... am not an employee/affiliated with them, just a very very happy customer with very little usage... |
| 16:47.23 | ManxPower | I use Teliax and NuFone |
| 16:47.25 | QbY | the thing is, people don't want multiple bills.. its like with us, you pay your cable company, and your cable company pays us.. and our cable companies would like to add voip but don't want all the cost--they want to do it the way we do.. |
| 16:47.41 | scubasteve | QbY: www.neonova.net |
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| 16:49.44 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, well, the only way to do voip effectively is to get your own T3, become a telco, and establish peering agreements |
| 16:49.57 | scubasteve | Manx: Is the GPL_KEY that gets returned by the apps for * ... some sort of GPL compliance thing? |
| 16:50.04 | Corydon76-home | Make sure that you terminate at least as many calls as you make |
| 16:50.59 | Corydon76-home | scubasteve: have you read the GPL clause in the module? |
| 16:51.11 | Corydon76-home | scubasteve: it allows Digium the license to use your module |
| 16:51.43 | scubasteve | Corydon76, how did the SS7 module authors get around it? Commercial version? |
| 16:51.52 | VoIPMasta | scubasteve: If you think that your customers will be calling under 3 million minutes per month, then consider partnering with a big provider. |
| 16:51.56 | QbY | scuba.. this neonova sounds like they do what we do.. |
| 16:52.11 | scubasteve | QbY: Really? Cool. |
| 16:52.13 | Corydon76-home | scubasteve: unless they have a commercial license from Digium, they haven't gotten around it |
| 16:52.27 | scubasteve | Corydon76: That's what I figured. Cool. |
| 16:52.32 | Corydon76-home | Linking to Asterisk means you have to comply with the Asterisk license |
| 16:53.24 | scubasteve | Corydon76: Would an app compiled against the commercial edition .. work with the GPL version? |
| 16:53.44 | Corydon76-home | Yes |
| 16:54.04 | scubasteve | Corydon, cool. Thanks. |
| 16:54.08 | Corydon76-home | but linking against the GPL version would trigger the GPL clause |
| 16:54.43 | Corydon76-home | The code is nothing different between GPL and commercial versions |
| 16:55.25 | scubasteve | Corydon, so Digium just looks the other way then? I don't see how the GPL could be disclaimed for the same base software... |
| 16:55.27 | Corydon76-home | but we're talking about the law, when we talk about licenses |
| 16:56.29 | Corydon76-home | If you don't have a commercial license for Asterisk, you don't have the legal right to load the commercially licensed SS7 stack |
| 16:56.40 | Corydon76-home | even though technically it will work |
| 16:57.54 | scubasteve | I am told Level3 will start sending CNAM data next month... Looking quite forward to it. |
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| 16:59.12 | my007ms | hello |
| 16:59.18 | my007ms | i need help with fax |
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| 17:00.43 | my007ms | when i try send fax from local i recive the fax well |
| 17:01.13 | my007ms | but when some one els try send me fax over pstn |
| 17:01.13 | doolph | check codecs? |
| 17:01.18 | my007ms | ? |
| 17:01.34 | my007ms | how do this |
| 17:01.46 | my007ms | and whiche codecs i need to check |
| 17:02.58 | my007ms | hello can some one help pleas |
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| 17:05.44 | gog2 | hello |
| 17:06.25 | gog2 | is there anyone who could give me a little push in the right direction, I'm trying to set up asterisk as a SIP server |
| 17:06.29 | gog2 | ? |
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| 17:07.26 | gog2 | hy krisguy |
| 17:08.40 | my007ms | try used asterisk@home |
| 17:09.08 | gog2 | i've installed asterisk on a debian box |
| 17:09.10 | gog2 | and it is working |
| 17:09.16 | gog2 | a can even connect to it as a peer |
| 17:09.34 | gog2 | but I would like to place a phonecall between 2 peers |
| 17:09.45 | gog2 | and this unoftunately doesn't work for some reason |
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| 17:13.56 | deb_user | question: can anybody recommend a good service provider that I can connect asterisk to via IAX? |
| 17:14.08 | deb_user | for international calling |
| 17:15.32 | slappingt | ne1 here have asterisk running on their Mac? |
| 17:18.16 | docelmo | ya most of Digium |
| 17:19.25 | trixter | slappingt: try http://www.astmasters.net |
| 17:20.48 | jluk | deb_user: international dialing from where to where ? |
| 17:21.25 | QbY | why won't my asteirks start -- == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/modules.conf': Found |
| 17:21.26 | QbY | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.47 | file[laptop] | QbY: did you upgrade? |
| 17:21.51 | QbY | yes |
| 17:21.54 | file[laptop] | and not read the very evident notice at the end of make install |
| 17:22.03 | QbY | the modules |
| 17:22.03 | QbY | yes |
| 17:22.07 | QbY | but it didn't mention that one |
| 17:22.11 | file[laptop] | well, chan_modem.so doesn't exist anymore |
| 17:22.16 | QbY | k |
| 17:22.18 | file[laptop] | so - wipe your modules directory and do a make install again |
| 17:22.41 | file[laptop] | as well you need to modify your modules.conf |
| 17:22.47 | file[laptop] | and take out the parts that mention chan_modem.so |
| 17:23.03 | QbY | where is the modules directory? |
| 17:23.08 | slappingt | thanks trixter i will check that out |
| 17:23.11 | file[laptop] | 'tis /usr/lib/asterisk/modules |
| 17:23.15 | file[laptop] | or is it var... |
| 17:23.25 | file[laptop] | nah it's usr |
| 17:23.36 | file[laptop] | but, do the modification that I said to modules.conf as well |
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| 17:24.09 | QbY | Asterisk Ready. |
| 17:24.09 | QbY | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.24 | slappingt | ne1 watch the Systm vidcast about Asterisk? |
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| 17:25.28 | fugitivo | ? |
| 17:26.40 | slappingt | http://revision3.com/systm/ if you have not seen it |
| 17:27.07 | doolph | whats that |
| 17:29.37 | scubasteve | deb_user: Ouch. What is your IP? |
| 17:30.56 | deb_user | 67.41.4.26 |
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| 17:37.21 | QbY | hey file, or anyone.. http://pastebin.com/477718 --i tried adding this to my extensions.conf, did a reload, but when i dial it, i get a 404 |
| 17:38.19 | file[laptop] | you included app-chanspy where the call is coming into? |
| 17:38.29 | file[laptop] | did a sip debug to make sure the call is going to the right place? |
| 17:38.31 | QbY | i don't follow |
| 17:39.47 | file[laptop] | you can't just stick a context into extensions.conf with an extension and be able to access it, you have to make sure the incoming call is being directed to some place that has it included, or sent to the context itself |
| 17:40.22 | QbY | k |
| 17:40.56 | gog2 | is there anyone who could give me a little push in the right direction, I'm trying to set up asterisk as a SIP server? |
| 17:41.05 | file[laptop] | jbot: docs? |
| 17:41.07 | jbot | docs is, like, probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 17:41.17 | file[laptop] | there, documentation on Asterisk... including SIP portions |
| 17:41.37 | Qwell | file[laptop]! |
| 17:41.38 | scubasteve | Man, the handbook is still draft? |
| 17:41.48 | gog2 | ok, I'll give it a try |
| 17:42.00 | file[laptop] | Qwell! OMG OMG OMG hi |
| 17:42.08 | scubasteve | Anyone in here have * and a ReplayTV PVR? |
| 17:42.52 | file[laptop] | he has the wrong house |
| 17:43.04 | scubasteve | File, I feel sorry for the delivery guy. |
| 17:43.25 | file[laptop] | there, he found it |
| 17:43.27 | file[laptop] | he's walking up now |
| 17:43.37 | scubasteve | File, you could have scored an early xmas gift. |
| 17:43.41 | file[laptop] | er wait no he's not |
| 17:43.46 | file[laptop] | he drove back here |
| 17:43.47 | file[laptop] | LOL |
| 17:44.03 | file[laptop] | people are smrt |
| 17:45.20 | QbY | file.. i know i've seen somewhere where you put the applications in the contexts.. but i can't for the life of me remember.. |
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| 18:00.41 | QbY | welp.. this chanspy ain't doin it. :( |
| 18:02.32 | mrdigital | huh? |
| 18:02.48 | QbY | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:02.57 | mrdigital | QbY? |
| 18:02.58 | QbY | i'm pressing the * key to change channels, and it just sits there |
| 18:03.18 | mrdigital | how good are you at programming *? |
| 18:03.34 | QbY | not very.. |
| 18:03.43 | mrdigital | can i pm |
| 18:03.43 | mrdigital | ? |
| 18:03.46 | QbY | sure |
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| 18:07.09 | SwK | h0 h0 h0 happy chrismahanakwanza |
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| 18:07.58 | file[laptop] | SwK: oh go to hell Ken :P |
| 18:07.59 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 18:13.09 | SwK | heh |
| 18:13.09 | SwK | \heh |
| 18:13.11 | SwK | what up file |
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| 18:18.10 | file[laptop] | SwK: vegging out |
| 18:18.13 | file[laptop] | what about you? |
| 18:18.56 | QbY | file.. I got my ChanSpy to answer, and it shows me it is doing it.. But, when I press * to go to the next channel, it doesn't do anything.. It looks as though its only listening to my extension.. any suggestions? |
| 18:19.09 | mrdigital | whats chanspy? |
| 18:19.17 | QbY | to listen live to a phone call |
| 18:19.22 | mrdigital | no shit... |
| 18:19.28 | mrdigital | how can i install it? |
| 18:20.23 | SwK | vedging out |
| 18:20.59 | SwK | contemplating going to the office to get some peace and quiet heh |
| 18:21.12 | file[laptop] | SwK: excellent idea |
| 18:21.45 | file[laptop] | SwK: have you guys gotten a better internet connection yet, or still using the T1? |
| 18:21.51 | SwK | T1 |
| 18:22.07 | SwK | we've been talking about getting this wireless multimeg connection |
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| 18:25.06 | BugKham | Can anyone recommend a four-port analog card to be used with *? |
| 18:25.19 | mrdigital | BugKham: FXO or FXS? |
| 18:25.22 | BugKham | apart from TDM |
| 18:25.23 | SwK | is there more then one |
| 18:25.50 | BugKham | mrdigital: 4 FXOs |
| 18:25.57 | mrdigital | im getting this card |
| 18:26.10 | trixter | there is always the digium tdm400 however its not cheap |
| 18:26.18 | trixter | figure its going to be like $450-500 from most places |
| 18:26.23 | mrdigital | trixter: im gettiung bundle |
| 18:26.30 | mrdigital | it comes with the 4 FXO |
| 18:26.33 | mrdigital | for $349 |
| 18:26.41 | trixter | that isnt that bad of a price |
| 18:26.47 | BugKham | trixter: 300-400 from ebay |
| 18:26.48 | inv_Arp | mrdigital: i would prefer an external fxo -> sip tho |
| 18:26.55 | trixter | its still more than device polling and 4 x100p clones for $17 delviered (each)) |
| 18:26.56 | trixter | :P |
| 18:26.59 | mrdigital | why inv_Arp? |
| 18:27.01 | BugKham | trixter: but I still can't afford it |
| 18:27.16 | trixter | now if you want FXS you can really cheap out and use a few ATAs that way if equipment does got out its not as costly to replace |
| 18:27.58 | inv_Arp | mrdigital: dont have to deal with interuppt probs, pc power supply, etc,,, external devices are robust |
| 18:27.59 | SwK | x10?p has issues tho |
| 18:28.02 | BugKham | trixter: I am having problems with 4 x X100P |
| 18:28.06 | trixter | the dlink 1120s for example (bestbuy has em for $30 dual FXS - gotta reflash em to be sip though which is trivial) is really cheap but extra network device |
| 18:28.27 | trixter | BugKham: that is because the drivers dont really do device polling they instead prefer interrupts and odds are you are colliding |
| 18:28.43 | BugKham | trixter: the sound quality dropped after pluging more than 2 cards |
| 18:28.52 | trixter | sounds like an interrupt issue |
| 18:29.05 | trixter | which basically is the fault of the driver since it could be written to do device polling in a 2.6 kernel |
| 18:29.12 | trixter | which is far better anyway and reduces the load on the cpu |
| 18:29.19 | inv_Arp | mrdigital: see what i mean BugKham problem is exactly why i prefer external fxo |
| 18:29.59 | trixter | a reasonable restructuring of the zaptel driver would fix that right up.. it isnt that hard to do device polling, if its enabled in the kernel, but meh |
| 18:30.13 | trixter | it would also give the system more capacity since the card wouldnt slow it down |
| 18:30.25 | trixter | well it would when a call is there but wouldnt quite as much as it does now |
| 18:30.40 | trixter | that is how macs do it |
| 18:30.53 | trixter | and why you can have a bunch of cards in a single cheap ppc for example |
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| 18:31.11 | QbY | this damn thing rocks |
| 18:31.45 | BugKham | trixter: any easier solution? |
| 18:32.08 | trixter | if you arent a coder and willing to contribute to a commercial entity for no compensation then the easiest thing is to get ATAs |
| 18:32.25 | trixter | well easiest&cheapest |
| 18:32.42 | BugKham | trixter: reconfig the BIOS, so that the IRQ aren't shared among those cards? |
| 18:32.48 | shido6 | pap2-na's work |
| 18:32.54 | shido6 | spa-1001's |
| 18:33.05 | trixter | you can try, but odds are there will be some sharing most people have had problems with that |
| 18:33.23 | trixter | irq steering isnt 100% not all bioses do it right |
| 18:33.27 | trixter | infact most bioses are broken |
| 18:33.36 | trixter | but you only have to deal with that if you write os level stuff |
| 18:33.38 | SwK | pap2na spa-* audiocodes (but the audiocodes are a bit expensive but kick the crap outta pap2/spa's on features) |
| 18:33.57 | BugKham | trixter: i see |
| 18:34.17 | trixter | I dunno, for $30 to get 2 fxs ports via the dlink ... that is a really good price and all.. theonly pap2s I have seen that cheap are locked |
| 18:34.25 | shido6 | Swk - like what features? :) |
| 18:34.29 | trixter | while the dlinks are 'locked' its trivial to reflash there is no protection to overcome |
| 18:34.36 | shido6 | pap2-na's are about $63 |
| 18:34.43 | SwK | shido6 single registration for all ports |
| 18:34.44 | shido6 | new |
| 18:34.45 | shido6 | unlcoked |
| 18:34.48 | shido6 | seald in box |
| 18:34.52 | shido6 | -e |
| 18:34.53 | shido6 | +e |
| 18:34.54 | trixter | right why I sid the ones that are about $20 are locked |
| 18:34.59 | trixter | said |
| 18:35.10 | shido6 | you can unlock those now |
| 18:35.18 | trixter | even the newest ones? |
| 18:35.24 | SwK | yeah even the newest ones |
| 18:35.26 | trixter | there were some issues with a firmware change |
| 18:35.33 | SwK | they've been cracked again |
| 18:35.41 | trixter | ok |
| 18:35.43 | shido6 | just dont factory reset after unlocking them or you will need to do it again |
| 18:35.49 | trixter | I dont keep up with all of that but that adds a 2nd alternative |
| 18:35.55 | trixter | and I think but am not sure that the pap2 is better than the dlink |
| 18:36.15 | trixter | but if you have a hardware failure its really cheap to replace, infact its cheap enough you could have hot spares ready to go |
| 18:36.40 | SwK | shido6 ever try to get 3 or 4 PAP2's or SPAs working infront of a key system all together as 1 device? |
| 18:36.41 | trixter | most home users cant afford to do that (or cant justify it if they can afford it) with stuff like the tdm400s |
| 18:36.58 | shido6 | ? |
| 18:37.06 | shido6 | why would I want them to work as a single device? |
| 18:37.28 | trixter | why would you want them 'in front' of anything? I dont use the 'ethernet' port on the dlink only the 'wan' port ... its like any other system |
| 18:37.37 | trixter | I dont route through it I dont have to and see it as pointless to try |
| 18:37.42 | SwK | single registration with 1 number easy hunting less management overhead reduced support costs etc |
| 18:37.56 | shido6 | you havent seen members.nufone.ne then |
| 18:37.56 | trixter | um that means that you cant call an individual extension as easily |
| 18:38.01 | shido6 | ther's a t in there somewhere |
| 18:38.08 | shido6 | vnc is slow to my osx box (intel) |
| 18:38.33 | trixter | I would rather have each FXS port be its own account so that I can more easily call a specific extension, even if I normally call the mall |
| 18:38.44 | trixter | I would at least have the option instead of trying to take that option away |
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| 19:18.31 | mrdigital | who here knows * inside and out? |
| 19:19.41 | gambolputty | lots do |
| 19:19.47 | gambolputty | whats your question? |
| 19:20.21 | mrdigital | need someone to teach me ASterisk pretty much |
| 19:20.30 | mrdigital | i get the basics but i need some answers tho |
| 19:20.31 | gambolputty | voip-info.org |
| 19:20.35 | gambolputty | go there |
| 19:20.42 | mrdigital | dop |
| 19:20.46 | mrdigital | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.52 | gambolputty | yes |
| 19:21.01 | mrdigital | can i pm |
| 19:21.02 | mrdigital | ? |
| 19:21.07 | gambolputty | yes |
| 19:21.18 | backblue | there is no crystmas in your country? |
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| 19:25.23 | mrdigital | huh Blankman? |
| 19:25.27 | mrdigital | Backblue |
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| 19:33.09 | hackeron | How do I make asterisk accept SIP phone login from a location not on the local network? |
| 19:33.23 | BugKham | anyone using Openvox A400P? |
| 19:34.16 | BugKham | just wanna know how it is compared to TDM400 |
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| 19:37.59 | JonR800 | hackeron: open the correct ports and make a sip.conf entry. possibly add nat=yes and externip= if needed. |
| 19:39.27 | backblue | mrdigital: 24 Dec Crystmas? |
| 19:39.33 | hackeron | JonR800: adding nat=yes and externip=theip worked, thanks :) |
| 19:39.56 | JonR800 | np |
| 19:44.26 | SwK | y0 Nugget |
| 19:45.17 | trixter | whee atsmasters.net should have calling to at least a half dozen countries for $5/mo soon. its more of a donation to the mac asterisk stuff they do than anything else the free voip is just incentive to donate :) not totally sure about the prices, benjk would be the real guy to talk to |
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| 19:45.26 | trixter | er astmasters |
| 19:45.27 | nesys | hi folks |
| 19:45.43 | nesys | someone using pbxmanager or voiceone web interfaces for *? |
| 19:46.31 | trixter | I think they are planning on rolling out 15 countries but I am not totally sure.. its a good thing to support both the asterisk porters as well as get something out of it :) |
| 19:50.10 | hackeron | secret=fccfe36d2b8c |
| 19:50.10 | hackeron | disallow=all |
| 19:50.10 | hackeron | allow=ulaw |
| 19:50.10 | hackeron | allow=alaw |
| 19:50.13 | hackeron | shit |
| 19:50.17 | hackeron | woops, lol |
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| 19:52.44 | JonR800 | time to change a secret and reload :) |
| 19:53.25 | trixter | its cleartext it cant be that secret :P |
| 19:53.56 | trixter | it also looks like a mac addr |
| 19:54.18 | hackeron | well, it was a sample from a web page, accidentally pasted in wrong terminal though |
| 19:54.19 | JonR800 | heh there's a difference between semi-secret and public though :) |
| 19:54.28 | JonR800 | ahh |
| 19:55.44 | trixter | like with chocolate |
| 19:55.48 | trixter | its semi-sweet and regular |
| 19:55.49 | trixter | :P |
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| 20:18.37 | ManxPower | Looks like it's time to replace the battery backup systems that were destroyed by Katrina |
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| 20:20.22 | mrdigital | who here is using MOH? |
| 20:20.48 | ManxPower | Most of us are, I think. |
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| 20:23.00 | Qwell | I use music off hold |
| 20:23.10 | Strom_C | the really fun mistakes are the stupid ones...like accidentally cutting off pair 18's tip while you're cutting the jacketing back |
| 20:23.12 | ManxPower | Qwell, you rebel you |
| 20:23.15 | mrdigital | music off hold? |
| 20:23.29 | Qwell | mrdigital: yeah, I make it play music while I talk, and it's silent when I put them on hold |
| 20:23.53 | ManxPower | Isn't that banned under international law, Qwell? |
| 20:24.14 | Qwell | ManxPower: probably |
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| 21:07.40 | Strom_C | I have a special love for the unique variety of grime that only collects in telephone rooms |
| 21:11.18 | trixter | Strom_C: that is cause the telco installer was in there clipping into someones line calling phonesex operators and whacking it |
| 21:11.38 | Strom_C | ha |
| 21:11.58 | trixter | you prolly didnt want to know where the grime came from though |
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| 21:15.02 | file[desk] | Strom_C: Strommy Boy! 'tis you! |
| 21:15.21 | Strom_C | yes |
| 21:15.26 | Strom_C | it certainly is |
| 21:15.27 | Strom_C | I thik |
| 21:15.29 | Strom_C | er, think |
| 21:15.37 | file[desk] | maybe it isn't... |
| 21:15.57 | Strom_C | i've identified for this nick |
| 21:15.59 | Strom_C | of course it is :) |
| 21:16.26 | file[desk] | yup, it's you! |
| 21:16.32 | file[desk] | how are you doing? |
| 21:16.41 | Strom_C | very well |
| 21:16.50 | file[desk] | almost too well? |
| 21:16.56 | Strom_C | I should go punch down this other 25 pair cable soon |
| 21:16.57 | Strom_C | yeah |
| 21:17.09 | trixter | amphenol! |
| 21:17.20 | file[desk] | beautiful |
| 21:17.37 | Strom_C | ive got amphenol cables on the channel banks |
| 21:17.51 | Strom_C | but I didnt want to deal with the slack of having amphenols on both ends of the cable |
| 21:18.01 | Strom_C | plus the blocks were like $30 more |
| 21:18.05 | trixter | heh |
| 21:18.14 | trixter | we got em when I last had to do stuff |
| 21:18.44 | trixter | made it a lot easier |
| 21:18.55 | trixter | course I think it was more than $30 extra this was 10+ years ago |
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| 21:20.33 | trixter | gah I am only 10% done processing austria routes :( stupid company with a really bad webapp that takes longer the higher the range and they only give it to you 10 at a time :( |
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| 21:36.33 | saggating | Has anyone successfully used CarllerID in the UK with a TDM400? If so, I would be gratefull for a few pointers. |
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| 21:57.41 | drumkilla | saggating: did you set "sendcalleridafter" in zapata.conf? |
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| 22:00.05 | drumkilla | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+and+UK+Caller+ID |
| 22:00.23 | leemel | any body here setup there sound card as a pa system |
| 22:00.35 | leemel | I have a weird problem |
| 22:00.47 | saggating | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.00 | mrdigital | leemel: describe ur problem |
| 22:01.19 | leemel | If i use a cisco 7940 phone to dial my dsp console, it works fine, if I use a cisco ata 186 with a standard phone it works fine, if i dial threw a sipura 200 i get an alsa_write error |
| 22:01.39 | leemel | siprua 2000 i mean |
| 22:02.33 | saggating | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+and+UK+Caller+ID. Read that. Configured Zapata to contain signalling = v23 and start polarity. |
| 22:03.21 | saggating | All the other docs I find seem to refer to the x100P. From what I understand the tdm400 should work in the uk. |
| 22:04.09 | leemel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.09 | leemel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.09 | leemel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.09 | leemel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.10 | leemel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.10 | leemel | Dec 25 05:02:28 ERROR[3384]: chan_alsa.c:643 alsa_write: Write error: Unknown error 170 |
| 22:04.12 | leemel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.14 | leemel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.01 | leemel | I can't find any info on the internet to the reason of why this is doing this |
| 22:08.49 | mrdigital | leemel: pm? |
| 22:09.55 | xachen | hmm |
| 22:10.11 | xachen | they need to make an asterisk feature so your phones can do standard rings in christmas tune patterns :P |
| 22:10.13 | xachen | insane? |
| 22:10.15 | xachen | I think so :) |
| 22:10.37 | mrdigital | xachen: depending on the phone you can |
| 22:10.45 | xachen | creepy |
| 22:10.59 | mrdigital | some phones allow you to upload mp3 ringers |
| 22:11.15 | xachen | nono :) |
| 22:11.23 | xachen | liek the original phone ringing thingy |
| 22:11.25 | xachen | blast whatever they call it |
| 22:11.31 | mrdigital | like dial each phone in a pattern? |
| 22:11.37 | xachen | yes :) |
| 22:11.39 | xachen | my point |
| 22:11.44 | mrdigital | yeah its easy dude |
| 22:12.01 | xachen | to timing and pattern? :P |
| 22:12.11 | mrdigital | yea |
| 22:12.18 | mrdigital | will i do for you.. negative :) |
| 22:12.39 | mishehu | isn't having christmas shoved down your throat for at least 1 1/2 months a year enough for you? you want to find new ways to shove it down people's throats? |
| 22:12.40 | xachen | negative? :( |
| 22:12.49 | xachen | yup :) |
| 22:12.57 | xachen | Simplest things amouse the simple mindeded |
| 22:13.18 | mrdigital | xachen if you help me ill do it |
| 22:13.20 | mishehu | how'd you like to have a lit up Hanukiyah shoved down your throat? |
| 22:13.29 | xachen | mrdigital: I was juswt thinking random thoughts :) |
| 22:13.38 | xachen | nevermind my non sense ramblings |
| 22:13.39 | mrdigital | i know but if you help me ill do it |
| 22:13.48 | xachen | I just have a softphone atm :P |
| 22:14.07 | xachen | you know |
| 22:14.15 | xachen | you seem to be Scroogey :) |
| 22:14.32 | mishehu | you seem to be arrogant and ignorant |
| 22:14.36 | mishehu | scroogey my ass |
| 22:15.25 | mishehu | not everybody in the world celebrates a holiday that marks a) the incorrect birthdate of a man, b) a fat old communist with a reindeer and child fetish... |
| 22:15.45 | trixter | it marks the birth of something? |
| 22:15.50 | xachen | true |
| 22:15.56 | xachen | Jesus was born in March |
| 22:16.04 | trixter | I thought all it marked was a season of buying and celebrating |
| 22:16.11 | xachen | but I have yet to see where I am arrogant and ingorant |
| 22:16.14 | trixter | santa isnt jesus |
| 22:16.17 | trixter | never has been |
| 22:16.19 | mishehu | trixter: that has been entwined in it. |
| 22:16.28 | xachen | uhm no :) |
| 22:16.32 | trixter | ahh so you omited it on purpose then |
| 22:16.35 | trixter | I see |
| 22:16.41 | leemel | mrdigital: what do you mean pm? |
| 22:16.41 | mishehu | xachen: by calling me "scroogey" you imply that I should be celebrating in your style. |
| 22:16.42 | xachen | I refer to Christmas as a time for sharing and joy |
| 22:16.53 | trixter | santa isnt a communist, gifts must be earned |
| 22:16.54 | xachen | no I was refering to the fact you were a bit grumpy today |
| 22:16.56 | mishehu | but I don't even celebrate |
| 22:17.03 | trixter | the whole naughty/nice list |
| 22:17.13 | trixter | communism would be everyone gets the same regardless of any work put in |
| 22:17.23 | Igbothom_III | yup - christianity has taken on a lot of pagan rituals and incorporated them |
| 22:17.29 | Igbothom_III | especially into christmas |
| 22:17.31 | mishehu | trixter: if you didn't contribute to society in communist russia, did you not get sent off to siberia? |
| 22:17.32 | mishehu | heh |
| 22:17.40 | Igbothom_III | which, to me, is a total crock |
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| 22:17.49 | trixter | that wasnt real communism |
| 22:17.50 | Igbothom_III | (christmas, not incorporating pagan rituals) |
| 22:17.56 | mishehu | but we all know that santa is a communist because he's bearded like lenin and marx, and wears a big red suit |
| 22:17.57 | mishehu | heh |
| 22:18.00 | trixter | real communism rarely works in groups larger than 30 |
| 22:18.11 | trixter | and the mere fact that you had a class of people that could send you off indicates its not communism |
| 22:18.36 | Igbothom_III | wasn't real communism? HAHAHA |
| 22:18.41 | trixter | he wears a red suit like imperialist brittan? |
| 22:18.42 | trixter | I see |
| 22:18.46 | mishehu | heh |
| 22:19.02 | ceph | I dont know what you guys are talking about and sorry in advanced for interrupting... |
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| 22:19.10 | Igbothom_III | that's what small-group communism develops into when human greed takes over - it falls apart, but it IS real communism |
| 22:19.27 | ceph | but I have wondered if open source community is perfect socialist system |
| 22:19.27 | Igbothom_III | but christmas is a crock, regardless |
| 22:19.33 | mishehu | ceph: if you want to say something voip related, it's probably far more related to the channel than the current discussion |
| 22:19.41 | ceph | haha! |
| 22:19.52 | Igbothom_III | and I'm working today - server+25 workstation network rebuild as the previous guy was a complete knob |
| 22:19.59 | ceph | neither is what I just said |
| 22:20.06 | Igbothom_III | NOTHING is a perfect socialist society |
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| 22:20.12 | mishehu | kibutzim in israel were the only place that I can think of where real communism worked with groups > 30 |
| 22:20.17 | Igbothom_III | NOTHING is a perfect society |
| 22:20.22 | trixter | real communism everyone is equal state run everything is socialism |
| 22:20.26 | ceph | close enough then |
| 22:20.30 | mishehu | but those are all but a memory now, almost none left these days |
| 22:20.38 | trixter | when you have a class of people that are not equal, such as a ruling class, its no longer communism |
| 22:20.46 | trixter | why it doesnt work outside of theories and small groups |
| 22:21.01 | trixter | it may be called communism but it doesnt fit all the definitions |
| 22:21.04 | Igbothom_III | trixter; you need to realise that your utopia cannot exist in the real world |
| 22:21.12 | Igbothom_III | so, what we have is what we have |
| 22:21.18 | trixter | what utopia am I speaking of? |
| 22:21.23 | trixter | I never said I wanted everyone to be equal |
| 22:21.41 | trixter | only disputed that the socialist government that is often incorrectly refered to as 'communist russia' wasnt really communist |
| 22:21.46 | leemel | so does anybody ever have a problem with alsa console/dsp with a sipura spa-2000 |
| 22:21.58 | Igbothom_III | your version of communism will NEVER work with humans being involved |
| 22:22.05 | trixter | exactly |
| 22:22.19 | trixter | and so have many many many political science teachers spoke about in lecutres across the world |
| 22:22.29 | Igbothom_III | not today - god will make everything right today :) |
| 22:22.32 | trixter | its not just my version its the one that is taught if you take political science |
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| 22:22.41 | Igbothom_III | russia absolutely was communist |
| 22:22.53 | trixter | everyone was equal? |
| 22:22.58 | trixter | there was no ruling class? |
| 22:23.03 | trixter | everyone had the same? |
| 22:23.06 | Igbothom_III | it was communism managed by people |
| 22:23.12 | Igbothom_III | not by theorists |
| 22:23.24 | trixter | it was socialist I will give you that however it doesnt fit the definition. communism really only works in small communes |
| 22:23.28 | Igbothom_III | that's utopian communism which WILL NOT ever exist |
| 22:23.32 | mrdigital | who here is GOOD at writing Asterisk Dialplans? |
| 22:24.00 | Igbothom_III | Santa, satan, spelling is really, really similar - I'm sure it was originally a transposition error :) |
| 22:24.05 | trixter | its the definition of communism regardless of whether or not you insist that its my utopian world |
| 22:24.08 | trixter | which it isnt |
| 22:24.12 | leemel | mrdigital: what did you mean by pm? |
| 22:24.17 | davn | anyone have DECT SMS working in *? |
| 22:24.19 | mrdigital | Private Message |
| 22:24.33 | ceph | mrdigital, I am trying hard at getting BETTER. Learning * |
| 22:24.45 | mrdigital | ceph pm? |
| 22:25.00 | trixter | a state run society (ya know welfare, public housing, etc) is socialism |
| 22:25.04 | ceph | pm? |
| 22:25.33 | Igbothom_III | trixter; you mean like we have here (Ausralyamate) and the yanks also have? |
| 22:25.49 | trixter | An economic theory which stresses that the control of the means of producing economic goods in a society should reside in the hands of those who invest their labor for production. In its ideal form, social classes cease to exist, there is no coercive governmental structures, and everyone lives in abundance without supervision from a ruling class. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels popularized this theory in their 1848 Communist Manifesto. www.ilstu.edu/cl |
| 22:25.49 | trixter | ass/hist127/terms.html |
| 22:25.54 | trixter | dont just take my word for it |
| 22:26.22 | trixter | Igbothom_III: america is torn between trying to be a republic, trying to be capitalistic and trying to be socialist |
| 22:26.29 | trixter | socialist governments also dont work because you have to tax too much |
| 22:26.50 | trixter | if the government taxed 100% and decided what you could have (and even if you didnt make anything you got the same) most people would never work |
| 22:26.59 | Scratchrf | hello, is it just me or has anyone else experienced problems with nufone today? |
| 22:27.02 | Igbothom_III | trixter; quoting things without really understanding their implications is meaningless |
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| 22:27.38 | trixter | given dynamic modeling governments often get more revenue by lowering taxes slightly.. dynamic modeling (a statistical process) indicates that the federal government in the US would get *more* money with a flat tax of 17% than it does with the varied tax upto 35% |
| 22:28.03 | Igbothom_III | I totally agree with flat rate taxing |
| 22:28.06 | trixter | Igbothom_III: yeah I understand that you disagreed with me when I said that same thing so i can see why you say that now |
| 22:28.28 | Igbothom_III | and a small tax per transaction and no income tax would work equally as well |
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| 22:28.56 | trixter | I think income tax has a point, its all the other taxes that are insane |
| 22:28.59 | Igbothom_III | y) 1% per transaction, in or out |
| 22:29.15 | Igbothom_III | (say) 1% per transaction, in or out |
| 22:29.24 | SkramX | any sixtel reps around? |
| 22:29.31 | Igbothom_III | DAMN - I forgot my tea and its gone cold (again) |
| 22:29.32 | trixter | take corporate income tax in america (I havent studied tax systems everywhere so I am intentionally limiting to what I have studied) *most* states spend as much or *more* than they collect in the administration and collection of corporate income tax |
| 22:29.53 | trixter | by leaving that money alone some states would SAVE money and others would have more in the economy rather than wasted just because |
| 22:30.12 | trixter | SkramX: afaik they dont come in here.. sixtel9@aim however is their AIM addr |
| 22:31.51 | SkramX | yeah, he is not answering |
| 22:32.02 | trixter | have you tried their tollfree? |
| 22:32.02 | Igbothom_III | trixter; the amount of administrative labor in the government (any government) is insane |
| 22:32.02 | xachen | welcome to sixtel :) |
| 22:32.08 | SkramX | haha, yeah I agree xachen.. |
| 22:32.27 | Igbothom_III | do you mean 666tel? |
| 22:32.35 | xachen | They specialize in not ansewring emergency pages, refund requests, as well as closing tickets that weren't even responsded too 3 weeks after you open them. As well as no answering of phones and crappy toll free |
| 22:32.38 | SkramX | xachen: I was supposed to talk with the vice president about a job |
| 22:32.53 | SkramX | haha |
| 22:32.55 | trixter | tech support? |
| 22:32.58 | trixter | they are hiring |
| 22:33.08 | SkramX | and sales-support I believe |
| 22:33.09 | trixter | I dont know if they want local only or not |
| 22:33.16 | SkramX | I was just looking for a at-night job.. |
| 22:33.21 | trixter | given what they sell sales support isnt that different from tech support :P |
| 22:33.21 | xachen | plus I was the first to file w/ the BBB and 4 have since then. Unanswered complaints: 5 |
| 22:33.25 | xachen | thats sumts it up |
| 22:33.25 | xachen | :) |
| 22:33.38 | Igbothom_III | xachen; sounds like Sultan Host - the webhosting company |
| 22:33.46 | SkramX | i talked to sixtel9, and he isnt responding |
| 22:33.53 | SkramX | haha, I used to use SultanHost a while back |
| 22:33.56 | xachen | to get my money back I had to make reverse payments |
| 22:34.01 | SkramX | now running our own VPS/VPA Business :) |
| 22:34.10 | Igbothom_III | me too |
| 22:34.19 | Igbothom_III | attrocious service |
| 22:34.28 | SkramX | xachen: i have about 45 dollars in my account, because of they would only give me credit |
| 22:34.31 | SkramX | heh |
| 22:34.54 | Igbothom_III | I now have a dedicated box hosted with... aaahhhh... APlus.net |
| 22:34.55 | SkramX | Soon hopefully Ill be on the "inside" :) |
| 22:35.02 | SkramX | APlus.net is good? |
| 22:35.12 | SkramX | My company needs a secondary server. |
| 22:35.15 | trixter | doeshosting.com is good too |
| 22:35.17 | SkramX | #1 is at theplanet.com |
| 22:35.18 | trixter | I really like them |
| 22:35.23 | SkramX | vpses.net is great, ahhahaha |
| 22:35.29 | trixter | and the owner is fanatical about security |
| 22:35.40 | SkramX | doeshosting.com, eh? |
| 22:35.40 | xachen | vpses.net :) |
| 22:35.40 | Igbothom_III | I've had ZERO issues with them - responsive, don't overbill, box uptime is great, pipes are always up |
| 22:35.43 | xachen | hard about them on WHT |
| 22:35.50 | xachen | heard* |
| 22:35.51 | trixter | they are about to move their box to a better location so performance there should improve |
| 22:36.24 | SkramX | do they do dedis? |
| 22:36.26 | trixter | SkramX: yeah.. for what you get they are very reasonably priced |
| 22:36.45 | trixter | SkramX: was that to me? |
| 22:36.46 | SkramX | I was going to go with hivelocity, but they have proven to be dumbasses |
| 22:36.56 | SkramX | didnt answer our partnership. |
| 22:37.01 | Igbothom_III | I gave up on shared hosting after APlus and went with a dedicated box |
| 22:37.05 | SkramX | They wanted me and a business to do asterisk consulting.. |
| 22:37.12 | SkramX | Hmm |
| 22:37.58 | SkramX | never responded to phone calls |
| 22:40.47 | Igbothom_III | aplus.net is worth looking at |
| 22:41.25 | Igbothom_III | doeshosting don't seem to do colos or dedis |
| 22:41.44 | trixter | they can, I dont think its advertised because most people dont want that |
| 22:42.04 | Igbothom_III | that's stupid |
| 22:42.33 | trixter | perhaps, but look at vonage they dont heavily advertise their BYOD plan (larger business plan) |
| 22:42.37 | trixter | it happens all the time |
| 22:42.42 | Igbothom_III | I'd not assume that they do something they don't advertize, therefore I'd look elsewhere - who does their marketing? Sack them |
| 22:43.26 | Igbothom_III | APlus at least advertize the services they provide - and they provide them well! |
| 22:44.23 | trixter | I do know that doeshosting is moving so their advertising may change once they have moved |
| 22:45.27 | trixter | I think their move is scheduled for the next 2 weeks but I am not 100% certain since I dont work there |
| 22:48.18 | Igbothom_III | we don't advertize that we build houses - and we don't provide that service. I wonder if doeshosting will build houses - after all, they don't advertize that they do |
| 22:48.41 | znoG | guys, whats the easiest way to create a conference call between 3 parties when the call is initiated by one? |
| 22:48.50 | znoG | the MeetMe is for people who join a conference |
| 22:49.00 | znoG | but I want to call someone, put them on hold, call somebody else, and conference. |
| 22:50.09 | trixter | now you are just being stupid |
| 22:51.21 | trixter | you dont want to use them, dont, however to bring up something like house building is as bad as a few minutes ago when you said that quoting without understanding is a bad thing because the quoted resource contradicted you |
| 22:52.09 | LostFrog | If you pay me enough, I'll build a house for you. |
| 22:52.19 | trixter | I would subcontract it :P |
| 22:52.21 | trixter | far easier |
| 22:52.40 | LostFrog | So would I, trixter. |
| 22:52.42 | trixter | who wants to do manual labor like that? hell who thinks of manual labor as an example? |
| 22:52.44 | trixter | I dont |
| 22:52.57 | trixter | but that is becuase I dont work those types of jobs I guess |
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| 22:54.37 | znoG | anyone? |
| 22:55.54 | SkramX | Any VOIP companies looking for night-time techs :) |
| 22:55.55 | trixter | the one that calls can always transfer them to an extension that tosses everyone in a meetme/app_conference briedge |
| 22:55.58 | SkramX | ? |
| 22:56.18 | trixter | SkramX: I was serious when I said sixtel is hiring.. they advertised that like 1-2 days ago |
| 22:56.24 | znoG | trixter: you mean I can call someone, press #, transfer them to the ext of the conference.. yeah? |
| 22:56.34 | trixter | if you set it up yes |
| 22:56.39 | SkramX | trixter: I know.. I talked to sixtel9, but he hasnt gotten back, at all |
| 22:56.39 | znoG | that sounds OK |
| 22:56.51 | znoG | trixter: should I use app_conference or MeetMe? what do you think? |
| 22:56.57 | trixter | depends |
| 22:57.12 | trixter | app_conference doesnt need an external timing source, but also doesnt do DTMF (no menus at all). |
| 22:57.49 | trixter | it does 1 translation between different codecs regardless of the number of destinitations (ie each unique connected media type) ... at least in days gone by (maybe todaqy I havent checked) app_meetme does it for *every* channel |
| 22:57.52 | znoG | well there is a Zaptel card in this box anyway so timing source is not a problem |
| 22:58.23 | trixter | so if your speaker uses codec A and everyone else uses codec B it translates for EVERY listener, app_conference will do it 1 time only per frame which saves cpu |
| 22:58.45 | znoG | its a conference call between my brother, my family and me.. for xmas.. so the idea is that everybody speaks |
| 22:58.48 | trixter | your biggest drawback is lack of DTMF in app_conference |
| 22:59.07 | znoG | yea that doesn't really bother me though, it's just to talk between the 3 parties |
| 22:59.17 | znoG | i'm looking for simplicity, the fastest one to setup |
| 22:59.23 | trixter | well everyone can be a speaker, I was trying to explian that app_conference is slightly more intelligent than app_meetme (or at least it used to be I dont know if app_meetme was upgraded for that) |
| 22:59.31 | znoG | yeah |
| 22:59.34 | znoG | gotcha |
| 22:59.35 | trixter | 3 parties as in 2 outbound calls? |
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| 22:59.51 | znoG | actually 3 inbound calls |
| 23:00.10 | trixter | ahh.. ok, well in that case pick app_meetme or app_conference |
| 23:00.30 | trixter | with that small of a number of people it prolly wont matter about transcoding ... and app_conference isnt distributed with asterisk so its more setup |
| 23:00.34 | znoG | the idea is.. i call party 1, transfer to conference |
| 23:00.39 | znoG | i call pbx, enter conference |
| 23:00.41 | trixter | meetme however is usually in by default |
| 23:00.46 | znoG | my brother calls PBX, enters conference |
| 23:00.53 | znoG | that is all |
| 23:01.07 | trixter | well if you are only calling 2 other people your phone might be able to deal with that without a conf |
| 23:01.10 | trixter | ie '3-way' |
| 23:01.25 | znoG | how so? |
| 23:01.34 | znoG | im calling in via Zaptel (from a remote place= |
| 23:01.54 | trixter | ahh thought that you would be 'local' to the system, in that case use meetme |
| 23:01.57 | znoG | i could deal with a 3 way if i had a SIpura or something |
| 23:02.04 | trixter | it shouldnt take more than 5 minutes to setup assuming its in your distro |
| 23:02.07 | znoG | which, infact, I do have.. but not at this remote place |
| 23:02.27 | znoG | ok thanks trix i'll go and read up on how to configure it real quick |
| 23:02.40 | trixter | meetme.conf and extensions.conf for example (gotta have an extension to transfer to that just calls meetme) |
| 23:02.51 | trixter | you *might* be able to do this just in features.conf with the application forwarding |
| 23:02.59 | trixter | ie forward them to a meetme directly instead ... |
| 23:03.12 | trixter | but if you are doing # only for blind transfer that indicates the stock 1.0.x conf file not the 1.2.x one |
| 23:03.52 | trixter | so odds are making an extension would be the easiest way to deal with it |
| 23:06.18 | znoG | yea i'd say it would be |
| 23:06.19 | znoG | cheers again trix |
| 23:07.36 | trixter | np |
| 23:13.44 | SkramX | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.52 | trixter | haha |
| 23:15.06 | trixter | wonder if that is public, ie *101@atlas.vonage.com or whatever |
| 23:16.38 | SkramX | we have vonage at home (dont ask) its funny |
| 23:16.44 | SkramX | ill setup my asterisk box to record it |
| 23:16.46 | SkramX | in a bit |
| 23:24.41 | trixter | what sip proxy does your vonage connect to? atlas2.atlas.vonage.com ? |
| 23:26.58 | SkramX | trixter: not sure |
| 23:27.07 | SkramX | I just have a pap2 and just let it sit ther |
| 23:27.08 | SkramX | e |
| 23:27.27 | SkramX | I am getting a package with a couple IP-Phones soon.. so we will see what i do :) |
| 23:27.34 | trixter | ahh.. I thought it used to be that one (I had vonage 2 years ago) but it doesnt appear to work |
| 23:27.40 | trixter | so either it changed or I dont remember |
| 23:27.54 | trixter | ahh vonage.net :P |
| 23:28.20 | SkramX | ah ha! |
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| 23:34.26 | trixter | yeah directly connecting doesnt work further the fwd peering doesnt work either |
| 23:34.51 | trixter | I know like a year ago fwd took down the vonage peering (technically vonage took it down) didnt know if it went back up |
| 23:36.20 | trixter | I WANTED TO TALK TO SANTA |
| 23:36.35 | trixter | do you have an FXS card to plug into your ATA? |
| 23:36.36 | Qwell | trixter: need his SIP address? |
| 23:36.52 | trixter | I was trying to do the vonage one |
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| 23:39.42 | gambolputty | 0@atlas.vonage.com when I dial that I get strange busy signal like sounds. |
| 23:40.27 | trixter | that host doesnt exist |
| 23:40.36 | trixter | .net does though |
| 23:40.42 | Nugget | http://xooglers.blogspot.com/2005/12/lets-get-real-database.html |
| 23:41.20 | gambolputty | I don't get .net to go through |
| 23:41.38 | trixter | t doesnt work for me either, I am thinking they only let authed users in |
| 23:41.42 | Qwell | Nugget: They must've switched to pgsql. ha! |
| 23:41.45 | trixter | hmm does sipbroker have a vonage peering? |
| 23:41.50 | Qwell | </flame> |
| 23:41.59 | Nugget | heh |
| 23:42.16 | Qwell | Nugget: How much do you know about pgsql and unixodbc? |
| 23:42.46 | Qwell | pgsql and mssql are being bitches |
| 23:43.15 | Nugget | pgsql a fair bit, unixodbc not a thing. |
| 23:43.21 | Qwell | damn |
| 23:43.36 | Qwell | Can you describe to me (in laymans terms) what the oid columntype is? |
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| 23:46.10 | Qwell | nevermind, gotta run |
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