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| 00:36.45 | a1fa | yo |
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| 00:37.26 | a1fa | i want to make a password extension, so when you dial it, it asks you for a password, then if the password is right, it gives you dial tone to dial out with one of SIP accounts ;P |
| 00:37.26 | SkramX | Damn.. |
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| 00:37.33 | a1fa | nice netsplit btw |
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| 00:38.34 | trixter | Mmm booze |
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| 00:39.34 | Corydon76-home | a1fa: use VMAuthenticate |
| 00:39.53 | Corydon76-home | and DISA |
| 00:41.36 | mrdigital | is _DAW here |
| 00:41.37 | mrdigital | ? |
| 00:41.38 | trixter | or just disa... the information (and calls) wants to be free! |
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| 00:42.15 | a1fa | Corydon76-home: where i can i find that |
| 00:42.31 | a1fa | google ;P |
| 00:43.57 | nesys | hi folks ... have you ever been trying asterisk on Xen system? always timing problem? |
| 00:44.29 | trixter | doesnt xen basically do an emulation layer? |
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| 00:45.05 | nesys | trixter ... yep ... then = vmware or qemu :( timing problem |
| 00:45.09 | nesys | ? |
| 00:45.18 | Corydon76-home | a1fa: do you have Asterisk installed? |
| 00:45.27 | trixter | most emulators wont have a highly accurate timing source, they drift, so emulators are bad if you want a stable timer |
| 00:45.53 | trixter | odds are you will have timing errors in any emulator.. if you are running a virtual machine on top of xen that too will have timing drift |
| 00:46.02 | Corydon76-home | a1fa: which version of Asterisk do you have installed? |
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| 00:47.17 | nesys | tricter clear thanks :) |
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| 00:47.40 | nesys | trixter |
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| 00:48.57 | trixter | np |
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| 00:49.30 | a1fa | Corydon76-home: 1.2.1 |
| 00:49.52 | trixter | who was asking about tech support work in here earlier? |
| 00:50.00 | a1fa | u helpig? |
| 00:50.04 | a1fa | u helping? |
| 00:50.09 | a1fa | whats your vage? |
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| 00:51.23 | a1fa | cdr_custom.c: Unable to re-open master file /var/log/asterisk/cdr-custom/Master.csv : Permission denied |
| 00:51.24 | a1fa | what a hell |
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| 00:52.59 | trixter | a1fa cdr_custom.c: Unable to re-open master file /var/log/asterisk/cdr-custom/Master.csv : Permission denied |
| 00:52.59 | trixter | a1fa what a hell |
| 00:53.02 | trixter | does the directory exist? |
| 00:53.08 | a1fa | no |
| 00:53.17 | trixter | does the uid that asterisk run as have write perms to that dir? |
| 00:53.30 | a1fa | it does |
| 00:53.39 | trixter | ahh well if its not there then you will get a perm denied (ENOACCESS) |
| 00:54.34 | a1fa | its fixed |
| 00:54.35 | a1fa | one more error |
| 00:54.35 | a1fa | res_musiconhold.c: The old musiconhold.conf syntax has been deprecated! |
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| 00:55.03 | trixter | so use the new format! :P |
| 00:55.10 | a1fa | what is new format |
| 00:55.40 | trixter | contexts |
| 00:55.45 | trixter | [default] |
| 00:55.50 | trixter | mode=quietmp3 |
| 00:55.50 | trixter | directory=/var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3 |
| 00:55.53 | trixter | for example |
| 00:57.54 | a1fa | time to test it |
| 00:58.47 | a1fa | the quality is lame |
| 00:58.48 | a1fa | :P |
| 00:59.14 | trixter | how do you mean the quality is lame? |
| 00:59.46 | a1fa | its not cd like |
| 00:59.49 | a1fa | or voice like |
| 00:59.57 | a1fa | its crazy |
| 01:00.19 | freezer | ya |
| 01:00.21 | trixter | what codec are you using? |
| 01:00.25 | trixter | how busy is your system? |
| 01:00.33 | freezer | i heared also better quality @hotlines.. |
| 01:00.44 | trixter | finally if those are adequate then what MoH do you have? |
| 01:00.51 | loud | broadvoice is like, obsolete today. |
| 01:01.21 | trixter | telepacket aparently decided this week would be a good time to upgrade.. knowing that a lot of people will call to wish happy holidays they have had issues.. apears mostly their DB |
| 01:01.28 | trixter | wonder if its an industry upgrade ... |
| 01:01.34 | a1fa | loud: why? |
| 01:01.37 | a1fa | broadvoice is perfect |
| 01:01.45 | a1fa | its cheap |
| 01:01.50 | loud | 100% congested. |
| 01:01.50 | a1fa | works like a charm |
| 01:01.57 | loud | i know. |
| 01:02.01 | loud | when it works, its ok. |
| 01:02.03 | loud | but today. |
| 01:02.49 | a1fa | you got business account ? |
| 01:02.52 | LostFrog | Thank god my office is not open today. |
| 01:02.57 | a1fa | they really need to make SLAs for BUSINESS accounts |
| 01:03.09 | loud | true. |
| 01:03.36 | freezer | LostFrog: lol |
| 01:04.08 | trixter | they have an SLA |
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| 01:04.13 | trixter | if their service doesnt work you can cancel |
| 01:04.15 | trixter | :P |
| 01:04.18 | a1fa | lol |
| 01:04.21 | a1fa | i lost $4 grand |
| 01:04.24 | a1fa | at one point of time |
| 01:04.29 | a1fa | i had 4 accounts with them |
| 01:04.34 | a1fa | i canceled all 4 of them |
| 01:04.37 | trixter | BV charged me a $180 cancelation fee becuase I used their service less than a month |
| 01:04.40 | a1fa | this was back in march |
| 01:04.51 | a1fa | lol |
| 01:04.55 | a1fa | why did you pay? |
| 01:04.56 | trixter | needless to say that is in dispute - got them to admit they were wrong for charging that but havent gotten a final decision on it yet |
| 01:05.23 | trixter | BV put me in their 'early termination program' and converted all used minutes to per minute charges because I exceeded 250 minutes |
| 01:05.58 | trixter | at $0.035/min that added up.. they admitted I didnt qualify for that program, and that had I not been placed in that program I wouldnt have had any charges - with the bank rep on the phone |
| 01:06.05 | trixter | but they fought the refund for 3 months |
| 01:06.27 | mishehu | bah. |
| 01:07.18 | a1fa | i need some good onhold music |
| 01:07.39 | mishehu | and to piss off the RIAA at the same time too no? |
| 01:07.44 | freezer | can i put an existing call from someone in 'hold' state? |
| 01:07.49 | trixter | there is a lot of free stuff out there |
| 01:08.17 | a1fa | riaa is a nut cracker |
| 01:08.18 | trixter | and its not that expensive to license for music on hold.. BMI is like $200/year - given the number of titles that lets you have its cheaper than any of the online download services - and legal |
| 01:08.38 | trixter | but there are at least 2-3 free sites for music on hold music |
| 01:09.21 | a1fa | yup |
| 01:09.26 | a1fa | http://aussievoip.com.au/wiki-MOH |
| 01:11.23 | a1fa | there |
| 01:11.27 | a1fa | free classical music |
| 01:11.30 | a1fa | i like |
| 01:11.37 | a1fa | i hate broadvoice |
| 01:11.42 | a1fa | on hold music |
| 01:11.45 | a1fa | i wanted to choke them |
| 01:11.53 | a1fa | back in the day when i had 4 business accounts with them |
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| 01:12.30 | freezer | what is broadvoice? |
| 01:12.42 | a1fa | sip provider |
| 01:14.38 | a1fa | wow |
| 01:14.38 | rob0 | http://aussievoip.com.au/moh/all.tgz ... times like this I appreciate my ISP :) |
| 01:14.43 | a1fa | there is a delay |
| 01:14.49 | a1fa | with music on hold |
| 01:14.55 | a1fa | it almost ruptored my ear drum |
| 01:15.05 | a1fa | i put the phone so close to my ear.. thinking its quiet |
| 01:15.10 | rob0 | 513.10K/s and thereabouts |
| 01:15.10 | a1fa | then it started singing |
| 01:15.18 | a1fa | rob0: i got OC12 :p |
| 01:15.31 | rob0 | this is just a home Comcast cable |
| 01:15.36 | *** join/#asterisk Inv_arp (n=junya@c-66-176-211-109.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 01:15.55 | a1fa | nice |
| 01:16.25 | rob0 | most of the time I'd rather have it slower and more reliable tho. ;) |
| 01:16.40 | a1fa | anybody know how to tune PAP2NA |
| 01:16.44 | *** join/#asterisk inv_Arp (n=junya@c-66-176-211-109.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 01:16.46 | a1fa | to make a phone call immediatley |
| 01:16.51 | a1fa | when you punch in a number |
| 01:17.15 | a1fa | what option is that |
| 01:17.18 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa, that jsut required tweaking the dialplan on the web interface |
| 01:17.39 | mrdigital | [TK]D-Fender: dialplan on the web interface? |
| 01:17.47 | [TK]D-Fender | should look like (*xx|0|00...... yadda, yadda) |
| 01:18.11 | a1fa | (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.) |
| 01:18.19 | a1fa | what should i tweek |
| 01:18.22 | [TK]D-Fender | mrdigital : he was referring the a specific ATA, I was NOT talking about Asterisk itself. |
| 01:18.24 | a1fa | it takes like 5 s to make a phone call |
| 01:18.47 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa, yes that line. just change it to match the patterns you want it to pass on as soon as it matches your Asterisk dial plan. |
| 01:18.48 | rob0 | haha that dot-au site is actually at Godaddy in az.us! |
| 01:20.27 | trixter | Mmmm even more booze |
| 01:20.35 | a1fa | so |
| 01:20.37 | trixter | rumor has it that booze is good |
| 01:20.40 | a1fa | to match 235222 |
| 01:20.42 | a1fa | i should do |
| 01:20.45 | a1fa | 235xxx? |
| 01:21.01 | [TK]D-Fender | if you want to use that 3 digit prefix, yes |
| 01:21.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Oh and why are your extensions so long? |
| 01:21.17 | a1fa | nostalgia |
| 01:21.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Better reason than sone I guess :) Certainly not fof convenience! |
| 01:22.10 | LostFrog | [TK]D-Fender: finger exercise. |
| 01:22.18 | trixter | I have seen this commercial on tv for a birth control method and that got me thinking.. radio shack sells epoxy in a tube you can squirt out. wouldnt that work better cause all this other stuff is only 99% effective |
| 01:22.47 | a1fa | [TK]D-Fender: wanna give me a call? |
| 01:23.23 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : PM me the URI and I'll give you a call in a min |
| 01:23.38 | a1fa | hehe |
| 01:24.22 | a1fa | i setup a conference line |
| 01:24.48 | rob0 | alfa thanks for the URL |
| 01:24.53 | a1fa | no problem dude |
| 01:24.54 | a1fa | i love it |
| 01:24.58 | rob0 | me too |
| 01:25.27 | a1fa | anybody got an example of VMAuthenticate([mailbox][@context][|options]): |
| 01:28.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Well its as obvious as it looks... What do you think you want to use it for? |
| 01:28.53 | a1fa | call comes in |
| 01:28.59 | a1fa | i go to a secret extensions |
| 01:29.05 | a1fa | enter a password, bam, dial-tone |
| 01:29.07 | a1fa | i can dial out |
| 01:29.17 | trixter | I think you use it to prevent wiretaps by the government |
| 01:29.22 | trixter | isnt that what its for? |
| 01:29.26 | [TK]D-Fender | You know, you can pass the password to use right on the DISA line.... |
| 01:29.28 | trixter | they have to authenticate before they can tap |
| 01:29.41 | a1fa | no |
| 01:29.44 | a1fa | its so i can go to payphones |
| 01:29.49 | a1fa | and use long distance for free |
| 01:29.49 | a1fa | :P |
| 01:29.52 | a1fa | i got a 1-800 number |
| 01:29.58 | trixter | are you sure its not for wiretap prevention? |
| 01:30.03 | trixter | I think it is |
| 01:30.09 | a1fa | how would you prevent wire taps? |
| 01:30.11 | *** join/#asterisk |dennis| (i=dennis@200.32.215.84) |
| 01:30.11 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa, You can just pass DISA a password to use in your dial-plan for that... |
| 01:30.22 | a1fa | i am making a special dial plan atm |
| 01:30.26 | trixter | well if they dont know your voicemail apssword they cant tap |
| 01:30.28 | trixter | see its simple |
| 01:30.34 | a1fa | [incoming-outgoing] |
| 01:30.41 | a1fa | answer, |
| 01:30.50 | LostFrog | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.28 | trixter | hehe |
| 01:31.37 | a1fa | he is trolling |
| 01:31.48 | trixter | or jhust trying to have fun |
| 01:32.45 | a1fa | tru ;) |
| 01:33.23 | SkramX | Too much egg-nog? |
| 01:33.29 | SkramX | or not enough? |
| 01:33.53 | a1fa | http://pastebin.ca/index.php |
| 01:34.10 | [TK]D-Fender | ... try again :) |
| 01:34.13 | [TK]D-Fender | bad link |
| 01:34.19 | trixter | SkramX: about the job stuf.f.. hr@sixtel.net ... prolly better than chris |
| 01:34.23 | trixter | given that he isnt in hr |
| 01:35.20 | a1fa | http://pastebin.ca/34830 |
| 01:37.07 | file[laptop] | ugh sixtel |
| 01:37.16 | SkramX | trixter: chris==#9? |
| 01:37.47 | SkramX | Hey, he said I was basically hired and just needed to talk with the VP.. |
| 01:37.57 | SkramX | file[laptop]: yeah, ugh, but I need a night-time-tech support job |
| 01:38.14 | file[laptop] | be prepared to handle a lot. |
| 01:38.26 | SkramX | I'm ready, if they get back to me |
| 01:38.35 | SkramX | I would rather work with a different company... |
| 01:41.14 | trixter | SkramX: yes |
| 01:41.14 | SkramX | ill email hr@ but I dont think that will bring much help.. |
| 01:41.27 | SkramX | trixter: yes, okay..? |
| 01:41.28 | trixter | SkramX: afaik he is the only one that uses that.. |
| 01:41.38 | SkramX | Yeah |
| 01:42.01 | SkramX | There is a Sixtel1, I am pretty sure that is the (women), VP i was supposed to speak with, though she is yet to respond.. at all. |
| 01:42.04 | SkramX | Very annoying. |
| 01:43.04 | *** join/#asterisk newmember (n=newmembe@S010600036d1139bb.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 01:43.23 | trixter | they are busy now with a variety of things, they appear to have been taken on long distance stuff (shame on them that was old news in 2001 - seriously I found the court case to prove it :) and they are getting CLEC status and other stuff |
| 01:43.28 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : nots sure what you're doing with that context.... |
| 01:43.39 | SkramX | trixter: Hmm |
| 01:43.42 | trixter | of course the fact they are trying to hire people to answer customer questions and what not is a good thing generally speaking |
| 01:43.43 | SkramX | Provide with a link? |
| 01:43.52 | trixter | it was against AT&T and AT&T lost |
| 01:44.01 | trixter | I would have to dig it up, its on fcc.gov somewhere |
| 01:44.06 | SkramX | Yeah.. well, they are treating a hard-worker like shit.. |
| 01:44.15 | trixter | AT&T violated their own tariff in asking for a deposit and canceling service to some guy |
| 01:44.15 | SkramX | under the name sixtel/inetmedia? |
| 01:44.40 | trixter | um um um hmm text is part of it |
| 01:44.45 | trixter | audiotext v AT&T I think |
| 01:44.57 | trixter | it all went down 2001 and the FCC ruled in 2004 on it |
| 01:45.01 | SkramX | trixter: know of any like-companies seeking out a free-lancer, or a PT support tech, who is quite knowledgable in CS, linux, Asterisk, etc. |
| 01:45.01 | trixter | or maybe it went down in 2000 |
| 01:45.08 | SkramX | Hmm, i shall look. |
| 01:45.09 | trixter | yeah it did go down in 2000 |
| 01:45.43 | a1fa | WOW |
| 01:45.47 | a1fa | THIS IS CRAZY |
| 01:45.50 | trixter | SkramX: its googlable ... and no I dont know anyone |
| 01:45.55 | a1fa | [TK]D-Fender: i used VMAuthenticate |
| 01:45.57 | trixter | the guy was calling UK 700 numbers he owned for profit |
| 01:46.01 | a1fa | but then you can make calls anywhere |
| 01:46.05 | a1fa | it breaks out of the context |
| 01:46.05 | a1fa | wtf |
| 01:46.07 | trixter | AT&T was charging him WAY less than what he made |
| 01:46.25 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : you'd have to show me something better.... |
| 01:46.31 | a1fa | ok... |
| 01:46.32 | Corydon76-home | a1fa: yeah, that's what it's supposed to do |
| 01:46.47 | a1fa | once you VMAuthenticate, you become that extension.. so you belong to all contexts included in your context |
| 01:47.05 | *** join/#asterisk Sedorox (i=brandon@smartserv/cna/Sedorox) |
| 01:47.07 | a1fa | now thats scarry |
| 01:47.17 | trixter | I think AT&T gave him about 5 cents a minute and he was making like 13 cents or something.. had a 30 second advertisement for a rolex watch which he was listening to for 2 hours on one call.. doing several hundred thousand in calls per month |
| 01:47.19 | trixter | quite funny |
| 01:48.07 | SkramX | heh |
| 01:48.08 | SkramX | yeah |
| 01:48.11 | SkramX | I am emailing right now |
| 01:48.26 | *** join/#asterisk warthog (n=nvadekar@66.55.112.240.ppp.northrock.bm) |
| 01:48.40 | warthog | happy holiday! |
| 01:49.10 | warthog | hey, bjohnson, how much snow you got up there? |
| 01:49.39 | a1fa | omg |
| 01:49.55 | a1fa | Corydon76-home: dude.. any number that authenticates to VM can dial out |
| 01:49.56 | a1fa | wtf |
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| 01:50.06 | Corydon76-home | Uh, yeah? |
| 01:50.09 | a1fa | yeah |
| 01:50.14 | a1fa | i just made a long distance |
| 01:50.15 | Corydon76-home | Isn't that what you wanted? |
| 01:50.19 | ComputerWarm | hello all is there anyone that terminates 1888 numbers free? |
| 01:50.21 | a1fa | no :( |
| 01:50.32 | a1fa | anybody who has a mailbox will be able to dialout |
| 01:50.49 | a1fa | i just made a random mailbox |
| 01:50.55 | a1fa | 3131 with passowrd 3131 |
| 01:51.00 | a1fa | authenticatred, and i was able to dial out |
| 01:51.06 | Corydon76-home | So do some logic with ${AUTH_MAILBOX} if you like |
| 01:51.19 | warthog | how can you start recording on a live call already in session? |
| 01:51.20 | *** join/#asterisk smirl (n=owned@68-169-204-147.agstme.adelphia.net) |
| 01:51.29 | Katty | merry christmas! |
| 01:51.35 | Corydon76-home | and ${AUTH_CONTEXT} |
| 01:51.43 | Corydon76-home | Happy Holidays, Katty |
| 01:51.59 | a1fa | exten => s,n,GotoIf($["${AUTH_MAILBOX}" = "2000"]?s|1000) |
| 01:52.02 | a1fa | kinda like this? |
| 01:52.09 | Corydon76-home | Yep |
| 01:52.11 | SkramX | trixter: email sent.. lets see how long this takes |
| 01:52.41 | SkramX | (for a response) |
| 01:52.59 | Katty | merry christmas! |
| 01:53.49 | Corydon76-home | warthog: see features.conf |
| 01:53.54 | LostFrog | Merry xmas, Katty. |
| 01:53.58 | a1fa | what does DISA do? |
| 01:54.01 | Corydon76-home | warthog: *1, IIRC |
| 01:54.12 | Corydon76-home | Direct Inward System Access |
| 01:54.37 | Corydon76-home | warthog: but the 1 has to be within half a second of the * |
| 01:56.31 | a1fa | http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:guSEs200wLkJ:voxilla.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-6888.html+VMAuthenticate&hl=en |
| 01:56.34 | a1fa | what does this disa do>? |
| 01:56.46 | Corydon76-home | Direct Inward System Access |
| 01:57.24 | Corydon76-home | Generates a dialtone ands waits for an extension in a specified context |
| 01:58.04 | trixter | I thought disa meant detering intrpid secret agents |
| 01:58.09 | trixter | ya kjnow the ones that want to tap your line |
| 01:58.31 | a1fa | as long as you authenticate? |
| 01:58.39 | LostFrog | lol |
| 01:58.50 | a1fa | exten => s,3001,DISA(no-password|from-internal) |
| 01:58.59 | a1fa | why no-password and from-internal |
| 01:59.06 | *** part/#asterisk tartar (n=tartar@CPE0004e27b716e-CM014370001917.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 01:59.27 | *** join/#asterisk mhnoyes__ (n=mhnoyes@user-2ivfj48.dialup.mindspring.com) |
| 01:59.43 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : DISA is a command taht will provide a dial-tone as though it were a phone with access to a context of your choice. It can ask for a password as well. |
| 01:59.48 | [TK]D-Fender | go read it on the WIKI |
| 01:59.51 | Corydon76-home | because by default, it has its own authentication facility |
| 02:00.07 | warthog | corydon76, where do the voice recordings end up? I have tried the *1 (but did not know about the .5 second thing though), nothing seems to happen, if I monitor asterisk -rvvvvv, I don't see any response from *1, I am on asterisk 1.2.1 and features.conf has the last line like: automon => *1 |
| 02:00.34 | Corydon76-home | warthog: then you're not doing it fast enough |
| 02:00.46 | Corydon76-home | Monitored files end up all in the same default place |
| 02:00.53 | *** join/#asterisk Druken (n=druken@CPE00121716da99-CM000e5cde4ca2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:00.59 | Corydon76-home | /var/lib/asterisk/monitor IIRC |
| 02:01.24 | Druken | have ya ever had a dialplan that's soo complex, ya get lost in the damn thing? |
| 02:01.37 | Druken | why oh why did i even start changing it.... |
| 02:03.14 | Katty | Druken: no, but my tummy is upset from nerves :< |
| 02:03.28 | *** join/#asterisk ldnblk (n=Just@optbom1.uk.access.vodafone.net) |
| 02:03.52 | Druken | nerves? |
| 02:04.14 | Corydon76-home | Druken: then it's not built well... |
| 02:04.32 | Corydon76-home | You need to use labels and subroutines to clarify it |
| 02:04.34 | Katty | Druken: i so much as /think/ i might have something wrong with me, and my nerves get into a big mess and i feel sick. |
| 02:04.38 | a1fa | how do you work authenticate() |
| 02:04.50 | Katty | Druken: and i don't mean like flu sick, i mean something /bad/ wrong |
| 02:04.58 | Corydon76-home | a1fa: go on the asterisk command line, and type "show application authenticate" |
| 02:05.48 | warthog | corydon76, ok, I am pressing *1 pretty fast now and nothing is happening still, I am wondering if there is more to configuring this that just the one line in features.conf? |
| 02:05.54 | Druken | Corydon76-home: if your good at doing dialplans, i would definatly appreciate some help :) i just get lost in it sometimes... my outgoing context is somewhere around 50 - 70 lines |
| 02:06.15 | Corydon76-home | ~pastebin |
| 02:06.17 | jbot | pastebin is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ |
| 02:06.27 | Corydon76-home | Ack, should be http://pastebin.ca |
| 02:06.37 | Druken | who's that for? |
| 02:06.40 | Corydon76-home | You |
| 02:06.43 | Corydon76-home | ~pb |
| 02:06.44 | jbot | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ |
| 02:06.44 | Katty | Corydon76-home: what's a placebo? |
| 02:06.52 | Katty | Corydon76-home: is it anything like a gazebo? |
| 02:06.56 | Corydon76-home | jbot: pb is also http://pastebin.ca |
| 02:06.57 | jbot | okay, Corydon76-home |
| 02:06.59 | Druken | well shit, i wouldn't use pastebin.com... stephens is much nicer :) |
| 02:07.05 | Corydon76-home | jbot: pastebin is also http://pastebin.ca |
| 02:07.06 | jbot | Corydon76-home: okay |
| 02:07.42 | a1fa | my god |
| 02:07.44 | a1fa | this is not working |
| 02:07.44 | a1fa | http://pastebin.ca/34831 |
| 02:07.47 | a1fa | check it out |
| 02:07.58 | warthog | corydon76, do you need to be on sip by chance or is iax2 ok for automon, just a shot in the dark. |
| 02:08.16 | Druken | Corydon76-home: hehe i'd paste my dialplan, but you'd probably look at it and go... wtf is he doing here? |
| 02:08.24 | Corydon76-home | warthog: dunno; I've never actually used it |
| 02:08.34 | Corydon76-home | warthog: our sysadmin has always set it up |
| 02:08.59 | Corydon76-home | a1fa: what number comes after 1? |
| 02:09.02 | a1fa | 2 |
| 02:09.06 | Corydon76-home | AHA! |
| 02:09.35 | warthog | thanks, will work on this one later.... got bigger problems, need voicemail high priority messages that get sent to numeric pagers with 20 minute reminders if you don't pick up the voicemail |
| 02:09.49 | Druken | hehe |
| 02:10.07 | Sedorox | Is there anyway to get timing to work on a Linux 2.6 box with OHCI USB and without digium/zaptel hardware? |
| 02:10.40 | a1fa | nice |
| 02:10.41 | a1fa | ;) |
| 02:10.51 | Druken | go buy a cheap card on ebay... it's alot easier and better |
| 02:10.55 | a1fa | Corydon76-home: so DISA wants password as well, eh? |
| 02:11.04 | Corydon76-home | Aha... |
| 02:11.15 | Sedorox | Druken: yea.. but its 1U server.. and the only pci slot is still with a SATA Controller... so thats kinda not a option |
| 02:11.23 | Sedorox | tho I did think of that one |
| 02:11.41 | Corydon76-home | Things which might do something insecure will only do it that way if you pass it a special flag |
| 02:11.49 | *** join/#asterisk robl^ (n=robl@dsl093-025-118.hou1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 02:12.05 | Corydon76-home | Since DISA can be dangerous, by default it takes a password |
| 02:12.05 | a1fa | how can i have short numbers |
| 02:12.15 | a1fa | 1 dials 011..... |
| 02:12.15 | Corydon76-home | short numbers? |
| 02:12.21 | a1fa | alias |
| 02:12.45 | Corydon76-home | exten => 601,1,Dial(Zap/g1/1800ELFPOOP) |
| 02:12.52 | *** part/#asterisk warthog (n=nvadekar@66.55.112.240.ppp.northrock.bm) |
| 02:13.02 | Corydon76-home | Or no, that's 888 |
| 02:13.04 | a1fa | hm sweet |
| 02:13.08 | a1fa | what is elf poop |
| 02:13.16 | robl^ | I thought it was 976 |
| 02:13.16 | Corydon76-home | Virgin Mobile |
| 02:13.43 | Corydon76-home | Happy Christmahannakwanzakah |
| 02:14.15 | robl^ | no Happy Solstice? |
| 02:14.30 | Corydon76-home | robl^: you haven't heard the commercial, have you? |
| 02:15.22 | robl^ | I don't watch much TV |
| 02:15.50 | Corydon76-home | "For help from a Jew, press 1. A Hindi Santa, press 2. A gay elf, press 3..." |
| 02:16.01 | Corydon76-home | 888-ELF-POOP |
| 02:16.04 | Sedorox | lol |
| 02:16.07 | Corydon76-home | Call it; it's hilarious |
| 02:17.23 | Sedorox | ahhaha |
| 02:17.55 | Sedorox | this is good |
| 02:18.39 | robl^ | I thought my IVR torture script was better :) |
| 02:21.48 | *** join/#asterisk nesys (n=nesys@2001:1418:1a6:0:20d:93ff:fe28:3ef8) |
| 02:22.14 | Sedorox | yay! another ipv6 user.... |
| 02:22.25 | Sedorox | robl^: what did it do? keep you in a lop pf pressing numbers? |
| 02:22.26 | Sedorox | loop* |
| 02:23.20 | nesys | Sedorox :) |
| 02:23.45 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPower (n=ewieling@dpc6745150107.direcpc.com) |
| 02:24.10 | Sedorox | oo DirectPC... how's the latency on that link? :p |
| 02:24.22 | Corydon76-home | 540 ms, should be |
| 02:24.31 | ManxPower | Sedorox, It's fine...except for SSH and VoIP. |
| 02:24.47 | Corydon76-home | You can do voip with a 540ms latency... |
| 02:24.52 | Sedorox | dunno why ssh would be weord.. I could see voip |
| 02:24.55 | ManxPower | I have all my VoIP numbers forwarded by the carrier to my cell phone. |
| 02:25.01 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 02:25.16 | ManxPower | Sedorox, When you don't see what you type until 1 - 2 seconds after you type it.... |
| 02:25.24 | Sedorox | well yea.... |
| 02:25.30 | Corydon76-home | Sweet! |
| 02:25.31 | ManxPower | http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=807 I was reminded of this today |
| 02:25.35 | Sedorox | I had a box like that whn the link was being weird |
| 02:26.03 | ManxPower | I have a plan to deal with the SSH issue. VoIP will have to wait until I get a T-1 (in a few months) |
| 02:26.30 | Sedorox | its sad.. here at home.. I have better bandwidth overall then my school (resnet is limited to all hell... I get like 3mbit on a good day.. out of the entire 100mbit link... was faster last year when we had a 30mbit link |
| 02:26.56 | Sedorox | yea... surprized you can't get one of your far neighbors to get a link with you and shoot it via wifi... |
| 02:27.05 | *** join/#asterisk MGSsancho (n=user@adsl-67-127-165-173.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 02:27.17 | a1fa | can u have two contexts in DIAS? |
| 02:28.06 | a1fa | DISA? |
| 02:29.05 | a1fa | anybody DISA with two or more contexts? |
| 02:29.09 | robl^ | a1fa: only 1 context.... but you can include multiple contexts into a single context definition |
| 02:29.40 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : you can point DISA to a context that INCLUDES others and it will be able to do whatever you could were you to use ot from a phone using that as its default context |
| 02:29.48 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : inheritance works. |
| 02:29.55 | *** join/#asterisk joat (n=joat@ip70-160-150-20.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 02:30.02 | a1fa | robl^: thats how i did it right now |
| 02:30.08 | a1fa | wow |
| 02:30.16 | a1fa | DISA is such a security hole |
| 02:30.23 | a1fa | i need to be using 20 digit passwords |
| 02:30.31 | [TK]D-Fender | Its only as big a whole as you make it. |
| 02:30.43 | Sedorox | what is this disa? |
| 02:30.44 | robl^ | DISA is nota security hole.. if you plan it carefully and use it wisely :) |
| 02:30.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Yes, without a password I would consider you quite silly :) |
| 02:31.03 | a1fa | hehe |
| 02:31.28 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : you can do a lot of things to strengthen it. like 3 strikes = caller ID lockout, etc... |
| 02:31.35 | ManxPower | a1fa, "show application DISA" |
| 02:31.40 | a1fa | how do you set 3 strikes |
| 02:32.09 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : a bit more dialplan logice. |
| 02:32.15 | a1fa | ouch :P |
| 02:32.15 | a1fa | hehe |
| 02:32.16 | [TK]D-Fender | many lines actually. |
| 02:32.16 | robl^ | for exmple, I have DISA set up here.. but it requires me to call a specific DID from my cell phone (caller ID match), enter an extension number and 2 passwords |
| 02:32.16 | a1fa | hehehe |
| 02:32.29 | a1fa | same here |
| 02:32.36 | a1fa | robl^: but no caller ID match |
| 02:32.49 | a1fa | :) |
| 02:32.58 | [TK]D-Fender | 1 quick tip : make your code to DISA be something UNANNOUCED in your menu and log like "*DISA" or something |
| 02:33.17 | a1fa | k |
| 02:33.22 | a1fa | i need to go, thanks for the tips |
| 02:33.25 | [TK]D-Fender | np |
| 02:33.59 | Druken | my brain hurts |
| 02:34.10 | drray | did you get your box Druken? |
| 02:34.23 | Druken | yep got it, thanks drray |
| 02:34.27 | drray | awesome |
| 02:34.28 | robl^ | [TK]D-Fender: exactly. mine is never mentioned on the menu... and it only even exists as an option for certain caller IDs of incoming calls.. everyone else can't even enter the DISA accesws number |
| 02:34.43 | drray | keep me posted of your progress |
| 02:34.46 | Druken | not western compatible tho... :( |
| 02:34.56 | Druken | it must be for a much newer phone |
| 02:34.58 | SkramX | see yall, I'm gonna go see if anywhere that has food is open :| |
| 02:35.41 | [TK]D-Fender | robl^ : I find the idea of "port knocking" an inspiration of DISA access. Dial 3 secret codes in a row and it'll unlock access to DISA which you would then auth to AGAIN... |
| 02:36.24 | [TK]D-Fender | file[laptop] : I've spent ALL DAY WITH THEM.... 2 parties today, 2 tomorrow and I'm heading to Mont Tremblant afterward tomorrow to stay the night.... |
| 02:36.29 | [TK]D-Fender | ENOUGH PARTYING ALREADY!!! |
| 02:36.32 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 02:36.37 | ManxPower | Egads! |
| 02:36.48 | ManxPower | I suppose I should call my family. |
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| 02:37.36 | Druken | i can't wait till feb. |
| 02:37.45 | Druken | things should slow down then |
| 02:37.48 | robl^ | [TK]D-Fender: similar here.. its part of it.. if you caller ID matches.. you enter an long sequence.. you get a tone... enter another sequence.. then you get a DISA password prompt. |
| 02:38.56 | robl^ | mmmm.. nice.. Snom 5.0 firmware is sweet |
| 02:39.06 | [TK]D-Fender | rob0 : useful idea, but only if you are looking to use it for things like your own cell, etc... |
| 02:40.06 | robl^ | [ very true.. I make it as secure as I can but still match *my* needs. the needs of others may vary. but my implimentation works for me |
| 02:40.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Yup, thats what counts. |
| 02:41.19 | [TK]D-Fender | frankly I find the hidden menu + auth p enough for me. |
| 02:41.30 | [TK]D-Fender | But then again.. thats "me" |
| 02:41.43 | file[laptop] | [TK]D-Fender: well, you're insane enough |
| 02:41.46 | Ridgeback | I heard some rumors about prescence working on Polycom phones via Asterisk... anyone mess with this stuff? |
| 02:42.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Ridgeback : I use it at work. |
| 02:42.14 | robl^ | thats the nice thng about asterisk.. you build a system for your needs.. not re-shape yer needs based on the structure of he system |
| 02:42.14 | [TK]D-Fender | SIP 1.5.2 & 1.6.2 |
| 02:42.26 | [TK]D-Fender | robl^ : ... sorta :) |
| 02:43.00 | [TK]D-Fender | robl^ : Certain things require more work that it should but I suppose thats life and we should work to patch the rest... |
| 02:43.06 | robl^ | presence works VEY VERY well under Snom |
| 02:43.12 | Ridgeback | [TK]D-Fender really? so a phone will be notified of the change of another phones status autmatically? |
| 02:43.38 | Ridgeback | robl^ cool... is there any docs I can read to set this up? |
| 02:44.01 | ManxPower | ~mailinglist |
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| 02:44.32 | drray | now is when someone should talk me out of buying more cisco 7960's |
| 02:44.44 | robl^ | Ridgeback: Polycom is different and I cam not too familiar with the secifics.. Try using the wiki http://voip-info.org |
| 02:44.57 | [TK]D-Fender | Ridgeback : Its well documented on the WIKI |
| 02:45.08 | robl^ | drray: I just sold my last 3 Ciscos.. |
| 02:45.09 | [TK]D-Fender | look up "polycom presence" |
| 02:45.24 | drray | robl, which phone did you replace it with? |
| 02:45.35 | robl^ | drray: Snom 360s |
| 02:45.37 | [TK]D-Fender | 1 flag to add to SIP.CFG, some "hints" to add to your dial-plan and buddies to add to your phones. |
| 02:46.11 | ceph | For "hosted PBX" does a business that is being hosted have to have a trunk for each extension? Basically, how does this stuff work? |
| 02:46.46 | ceph | meaning a separate line to the hosted box. |
| 02:46.59 | robl^ | also, look into the bristuff patches. they have something called app_devstate that lets you turn lights on/off like presence.. but for non-phone-device exensions... like day/nite mode status |
| 02:47.30 | [TK]D-Fender | ceph : Hosted PBX typically has the phones located at the client and all of them connect to the HOSTING PBX (which is remote to the site). Lines, extensions and all thaqt are "virtual" |
| 02:49.07 | drray | they are ugly |
| 02:49.15 | drray | erm, exscuse me |
| 02:49.32 | ceph | So anytime someone dials an extension, that extension is somehow "forwarded" to the hosted box along with the phone number? or something |
| 02:49.53 | ManxPower | ceph, or something |
| 02:49.57 | [TK]D-Fender | ceph : Just think of the asterisk box being remote. |
| 02:49.59 | [TK]D-Fender | thats it |
| 02:50.25 | [TK]D-Fender | VPN for instance. Not forwarded, just not "local" |
| 02:50.52 | ceph | Ah, I get it. Thanks. |
| 02:51.12 | ceph | Are people doing hosted *? |
| 02:51.24 | ceph | Is it worth it? |
| 02:51.48 | [TK]D-Fender | ceph : Any reason why you wouldnt just BUY your own system instead of paying RENT for someone elses? |
| 02:52.22 | drray | ceph, it's wortyh it if you watn someone else to manage the box |
| 02:52.25 | ceph | well the reason I ask is that I know someone that is doing it...so I was wondering 1) How the hell it might work 2) Why they would do that. |
| 02:52.26 | drray | it's the same as webhosting |
| 02:52.45 | drray | virtual pbx |
| 02:53.02 | ceph | Plus I was thinking also, if there is demand, maybe a biz idea. |
| 02:53.28 | drray | ceph, there is a demand for virtual IVR systems |
| 02:53.52 | ceph | hmmmmm. tell me more drray. |
| 02:54.00 | drray | no, I'll let you do your own homework :) |
| 02:54.06 | ceph | ok. :) |
| 02:54.19 | [TK]D-Fender | There's demand for all sorts of things in this world. For people who say "I want someone else to blame if a plane flies into it" etc... |
| 02:54.43 | ceph | that's called support. I can deal with it! |
| 02:54.49 | drray | we use dreamhost for web because it's cheaper than running our own servers, and we just don't have that much traffic |
| 02:54.52 | [TK]D-Fender | If you're here, odds are you're better of just getting your own box and taking control of your own destiny. |
| 02:56.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Web hosting is something that is very natural to off-load for redundancy (RAID, WAN, Power, etc) and bandwith (odds are your host will have boat-loads). The cost of that vs paying for a link of your own pays off fast for the majority. |
| 02:56.08 | ceph | i agree....I mean I would rather toy around with my own * box and configure it how I want. But, if I can host one of these babies and make money off of it, I see nothing wrong with it! |
| 02:56.39 | drray | I guess I'm just a cisco phone person |
| 02:56.47 | [TK]D-Fender | Oh you want to SELL your services that way... well then more power to you... |
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| 02:57.20 | file[laptop] | sorta like centrex, but cheaper! |
| 02:57.34 | file[laptop] | although centrex here is rather cheap... |
| 02:57.53 | xachen | hmm |
| 02:58.00 | drray | I don't think the internet is mature enough to take on the telcos for voice yet |
| 02:58.09 | xachen | Asterlink isn't registering my IAX incoming connection :( |
| 02:58.16 | xachen | sure it is :) |
| 02:58.36 | ceph | Havent you all looked into it? Random: I called a vendor looking for SIP phones. He said why? I said because. He asked do you know Linux and *. He said that they were having impossible time meeting demand. |
| 02:58.49 | benjk | drray: NTT had a drop in revenue of something like 30% because of VoIP |
| 02:59.25 | drray | for long distance maybe, but for dedicated business lines, I don't know that voip is going to give you the uptime |
| 02:59.46 | benjk | no, for local and long distance, and also for business lines |
| 02:59.57 | xachen | :) |
| 02:59.58 | benjk | they have a biz package |
| 03:00.05 | file[laptop] | VoIP has too many outside variables for most applications... you rely on the internet, which is dangerous |
| 03:00.05 | drray | I feel more confident in my pri |
| 03:00.25 | [TK]D-Fender | The only voip in most of my scenario is from phone > * > PSTN |
| 03:00.26 | benjk | a special DSL modem that doesn't have any ethernet at all -- only 4 FXS ports |
| 03:00.52 | drray | I'm not prepared to ditch the pri to rely on a DSL connection for 24 channels of voice |
| 03:00.59 | benjk | many businesses use them for their lines now |
| 03:01.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Heavens no.. PRI = good. |
| 03:01.14 | benjk | its 4 lines per DSL circuit |
| 03:01.53 | benjk | so basically you get 4 for 1 |
| 03:01.59 | Druken | anyone know if odbcget goes +101 on a failed lookup ? |
| 03:02.45 | benjk | also they do this on FTTH now |
| 03:02.55 | benjk | a media converter with 4 FXS ports |
| 03:03.07 | benjk | on FTTH you hardly ever have any problems |
| 03:03.14 | drray | Druken - you want to work out a deal for a payphone? |
| 03:03.18 | benjk | its no different from a PRI |
| 03:03.27 | drray | Ernest D3 with software |
| 03:03.29 | benjk | PRI comes on the same fiber as FTTH does |
| 03:03.53 | benjk | and the distance to your phone service is the same |
| 03:04.10 | Ridgeback | anyone know where I can d/l the latest Polycom firmware/bootrom?? |
| 03:04.41 | benjk | so even if your ISP can't deliver any internet services behind the CO, the FTTH delivered phone lines are most likely still working |
| 03:04.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Ridgeback : Check with your dealer first. |
| 03:05.28 | Ridgeback | i dont have dealer... I bought them online in Australia over a year ago... :( |
| 03:05.30 | benjk | its more reliable than analog PSTN |
| 03:05.35 | Druken | drray: why, you lookin to sell one to me? |
| 03:05.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Ridgeback : what versions are they running now? |
| 03:06.12 | drray | actually swap hardware, you got any spare VOIP phones? |
| 03:06.19 | Ridgeback | should be 1.4.1 |
| 03:06.39 | Druken | drray: SPARE hardware? what does that mean?? hehehe |
| 03:06.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Ridgeback : What model(s) of phones? |
| 03:06.54 | Ridgeback | IP 600 |
| 03:07.41 | joat | opinion question: download from the site or use the cd that came with the tdm400 yesterday? |
| 03:07.49 | file[laptop] | download from the site |
| 03:07.55 | joat | t'anks |
| 03:07.55 | file[laptop] | well |
| 03:07.56 | file[laptop] | svn |
| 03:08.08 | [TK]D-Fender | I might be able to swing getting you a newer version but would have to grab it from work first. |
| 03:08.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Ridgeback : What BR on them? |
| 03:08.25 | Ridgeback | BR? |
| 03:08.29 | Ridgeback | oh ummm not sure |
| 03:08.31 | [TK]D-Fender | And have you provisioned the phoones before? |
| 03:08.32 | Ridgeback | hang on let me check |
| 03:08.39 | Ridgeback | yes they are working fine now |
| 03:09.22 | Ridgeback | Im running 2.6.1 BR |
| 03:09.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Ridgeback : What I mean is have you set up a provisioning server for them (for them to pick up their SIP & BR images, and SIP config from)? |
| 03:09.57 | Ridgeback | yes I have a FTP server that provides the boot/ sip and configs |
| 03:10.09 | xachen | ? |
| 03:10.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Ridgeback : Good, then go here : http://www.freedomphones.net/polycom/files/ |
| 03:11.01 | [TK]D-Fender | I'd suggest you get 1.5.2 or 1.6.2 depending. |
| 03:11.10 | [TK]D-Fender | 1.5.2 works well for me and my 26 x IP 600's |
| 03:11.16 | Ridgeback | very cool, thank you. |
| 03:11.32 | [TK]D-Fender | 1.6.2 is nifty as wel I guess... not sure if I care to upgrade them en-masse and all though... |
| 03:11.33 | Ridgeback | I would like to try the prescence stuff |
| 03:11.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Ridgeback : I'm using it on both revisions. |
| 03:11.59 | Ridgeback | just curious, should I upgrade th BR fisrt, then throw in the sip |
| 03:12.02 | Ridgeback | oh ok |
| 03:12.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Don't touch the BR... |
| 03:12.22 | [TK]D-Fender | not worth it. |
| 03:12.25 | Ridgeback | ok |
| 03:12.38 | Ridgeback | 2.6.1 is fine then for the newer sip 1.6.2 |
| 03:12.40 | Ridgeback | ? |
| 03:12.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Also if you go to 3.0 you don't get to go back it seems. |
| 03:12.46 | [TK]D-Fender | yup |
| 03:12.47 | Ridgeback | ouch |
| 03:12.50 | Ridgeback | ok cool |
| 03:13.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Nice price on SIP - 4 FXO http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?products_id=1230 |
| 03:13.48 | Ridgeback | looks like I have to merge two of my config file for the new sip ver on my polycom.... |
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| 03:14.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Ridgeback :I'd sugest you start from scratch. A LOT of stuff changed.... and it might blow up nasty if you don't |
| 03:14.28 | Ridgeback | oh ok |
| 03:14.33 | Ridgeback | I'll do that |
| 03:14.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Thats part of why I'm leaving mine at 1.5.2 |
| 03:14.47 | Ridgeback | lol |
| 03:14.48 | Ridgeback | ok |
| 03:14.55 | [TK]D-Fender | So jsut grab the SIP image, recustomize it and off you go. |
| 03:14.59 | Ridgeback | ill back up my old directory first just in case :) |
| 03:15.06 | Ridgeback | ok cool will try that now |
| 03:15.49 | [TK]D-Fender | good idea |
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| 03:20.06 | mrdigital | can anyone help me write the conf for asterisk? |
| 03:20.45 | ManxPower | mrdigital, Many of us can I'm sure....for a price. |
| 03:20.47 | [TK]D-Fender | ? |
| 03:20.51 | [TK]D-Fender | :D |
| 03:21.33 | Druken | i'll give ya 10% off what ever ManxPower's price is :) |
| 03:21.46 | ManxPower | $120/hr + expenses |
| 03:22.15 | Druken | so i guess that would be $108 an hour :) hehe |
| 03:22.15 | [TK]D-Fender | mrdigital : perhaps you should rephrase your request and give us an idea of how much needs to be done. |
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| 03:22.33 | slappingt | can anyone recommend a good wifi sip voip phone |
| 03:22.39 | [TK]D-Fender | I'd do it for a very mere fraction if it is in the range I would even charge for... |
| 03:22.46 | docelmo | I do remote for $80/hr unless you choose to have a service contract then cost becomes $50/hour |
| 03:22.51 | [TK]D-Fender | WIFI + SIP = shit right now. |
| 03:23.01 | [TK]D-Fender | I'd say stick with ATA + Cordless. |
| 03:23.07 | slappingt | what is the way to go then? |
| 03:23.19 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^ |
| 03:24.18 | slappingt | any links on ATA + cordless setups? |
| 03:25.00 | [TK]D-Fender | nothing to say really.. just any Sipura ATA + a cordless phone of your choice (5.8 ghx seems to be good these days) |
| 03:25.15 | [TK]D-Fender | not sure what kind of link you need really... |
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| 03:25.52 | gergn | Has anyone noticed that their memory usage creeps up to almost 90-95% utilization after Asterisk has been up for 2-3 days on a machine running linux? |
| 03:26.27 | ManxPower | gergn, Only with 1.0.x |
| 03:27.28 | slappingt | You can have a wifi phone and from a hotspot get to your asterisk Sipura set up at home right? |
| 03:27.49 | mrdigital | slappingt: yup |
| 03:27.55 | gergn | ManxPower: is this due do that scheduling memory leak that was just taken care of? |
| 03:28.30 | [TK]D-Fender | slappingt : if you're looking to do this from say cafe hotspts, watch out for the ones needing HTTP auth to get out. many can't web-browse for it... |
| 03:28.33 | gergn | channel.c: ensure channel's scheduling context is freed (Issue #5788) |
| 03:28.35 | slappingt | so the wifi phone sends out a beacon? |
| 03:28.50 | [TK]D-Fender | thats one of the main problems, in addition to shitty battery life |
| 03:28.51 | slappingt | ah ok |
| 03:29.18 | slappingt | they seem to be pretty expensive too |
| 03:29.20 | ManxPower | gergn, There is evidence that the 1.2 version of asterisk has either no or far fewer memory leaks |
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| 03:32.14 | [TK]D-Fender | slappingt : I think a PDA / laptop w/ softphone would work better for you... |
| 03:32.49 | slappingt | that sounds like the way to go |
| 03:32.56 | [TK]D-Fender | for now, yeah.... |
| 03:33.21 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, well I'm off.... Merry Christmas, etc to all.... |
| 03:33.43 | slappingt | Merry Christmas |
| 03:35.28 | TheCops | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7193470719293309352 <-- nice song |
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| 03:41.43 | SkramX | only cvs was open :( |
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| 03:45.44 | wolfson | anyone know of a level3 reseller other than sixtel that does wholesale origination? |
| 03:46.44 | SkramX | les.net |
| 03:46.53 | trixter | packet8 dunno about the wholesale part |
| 03:47.02 | SkramX | hopefully Ill have an inside "job" at sixtel :) |
| 03:48.51 | wolfson | after reading the reviews don't think I can trust mission critical support line #'s to them |
| 03:49.22 | wolfson | and level3 will never call me back, not that we'd push enough traffic to buy direct from them anyways |
| 03:50.01 | wolfson | les.net only lists the cheap tier l3 did's. we happen to be in some other tier that not all carry |
| 03:50.27 | SkramX | hmm |
| 03:51.12 | wolfson | packet8 covers it, but they want to sell me termination as well by the line not minute. |
| 03:51.33 | wolfson | I need more #'s than I need lines, and would rather just pay for time |
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| 03:52.19 | ManxPower | wolfson, talk to teliax or Nufone, they don't advertize wholesale, but I think they will do it. |
| 03:52.32 | wolfson | nufone does not do l3 do they? |
| 03:52.42 | wolfson | teliax does not cover the rate center |
| 03:52.43 | SkramX | wolfson: nopes |
| 03:52.45 | SkramX | i dont think |
| 03:52.54 | SkramX | wolfson: how many did's do you need, bro? |
| 03:53.09 | wolfson | probably 6 in the 252-489 l3 ratecenter |
| 03:53.16 | SkramX | oh, hmm |
| 03:53.17 | wolfson | 2-4k minutes a month |
| 03:54.22 | SkramX | talk with viatalk.com |
| 03:54.29 | SkramX | broadvoice.com? |
| 03:54.31 | wolfson | i'll test sixtel for a while and see how their new "highering" goes |
| 03:54.43 | SkramX | i have a friend at BV.. |
| 03:55.16 | wolfson | bv does not cover the ratecenter |
| 03:55.53 | wolfson | wish l3 dialup reseller did voip, already buy a few hundred lines from them |
| 03:56.41 | SkramX | wolfson: it has to be that Exchange? |
| 03:56.59 | wolfson | that ratecenter, but thats the only non ilec exchange in the ratecenter |
| 03:57.26 | wolfson | 252-489 is L3, sprint has the rest, save for a few cell companies |
| 03:57.39 | wolfson | we are trying to ditch the hell that is Sprint |
| 03:58.01 | SkramX | yeah |
| 03:58.02 | SkramX | hmm |
| 03:58.05 | SkramX | sorry |
| 03:58.19 | drray | teliax is decent for inbound 800/DID's? |
| 03:58.50 | SkramX | I use sixtel and asterlink |
| 03:58.53 | ManxPower | drray, For inbound 800 Teliax and Nufone are food. |
| 03:59.14 | ManxPower | I won't say who, but someone from Teliax support is frequently on this channel |
| 03:59.24 | drray | It jsut has to be up |
| 03:59.43 | drray | I'll pay more to ensure it |
| 03:59.51 | Druken | www.thinktel.ca |
| 03:59.57 | SkramX | hmm |
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| 04:01.24 | zishanov | Please somebody solve my this issue: pbx.c:1731 pbx_extension_helper: Cannot find extension context 'default' |
| 04:01.40 | zishanov | I receive this when a call comes in to my asterisk |
| 04:03.04 | Druken | uhmm... read the damn error |
| 04:03.15 | Druken | you have no extension context default |
| 04:03.43 | zishanov | I have my own contexts, I don't understand why is it trying to find default context |
| 04:04.01 | zishanov | call should go to context named [incoming] |
| 04:04.10 | Druken | what kinda call? |
| 04:04.18 | zishanov | from PSTN |
| 04:04.33 | zishanov | [incoming] |
| 04:04.33 | zishanov | exten => _X,1,NoOp(Execution of Incoming Context) |
| 04:04.33 | zishanov | exten => _X,2,Playback(hello-world) |
| 04:04.33 | zishanov | exten => _X,3,Dial(SIP/200@ext,15,tr) |
| 04:04.33 | zishanov | exten => _X,4,Hangup |
| 04:04.43 | Druken | from pstn via? |
| 04:05.44 | zishanov | via this declaration in sip.conf |
| 04:05.44 | zishanov | [6472584244_incoming] |
| 04:05.44 | zishanov | type=user |
| 04:05.45 | zishanov | secret=73448 |
| 04:05.55 | Druken | ok, so it's a SIP call |
| 04:05.58 | Druken | fancy that |
| 04:06.00 | zishanov | yes |
| 04:06.31 | Druken | do you have a context= in that incoming sip block ? |
| 04:06.47 | Druken | and who is providing the toronto did via sip ? |
| 04:06.54 | zishanov | no, not in the incoming block |
| 04:07.00 | drray | DING |
| 04:07.10 | Druken | well, that could be why it's looking for a default.... |
| 04:09.26 | zishanov | Nom it didn't help. I put context=incoming in this block, but same error |
| 04:09.37 | Druken | restarted? |
| 04:09.40 | zishanov | yes |
| 04:09.48 | Druken | restart or reload? |
| 04:09.54 | zishanov | reload |
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| 04:09.58 | drray | DING |
| 04:09.59 | Druken | restart now |
| 04:10.02 | Druken | reload don't do shit |
| 04:10.07 | Druken | just reloads the dialplan |
| 04:10.10 | Druken | or use sip reload |
| 04:10.30 | Druken | drray: up and enter :) |
| 04:11.05 | zishanov | did it,but same thing, it is continuousely throwing this error on screen |
| 04:13.58 | SkramX | reload reloads all conf files.. extensions reload only does extensions, etc. |
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| 04:14.13 | SkramX | *i think& |
| 04:14.38 | Druken | SkramX: it's been my experince that no... plain old reload only does the dialplan |
| 04:14.44 | Druken | but i may be wrong |
| 04:14.52 | SkramX | i think you are :) |
| 04:15.09 | zishanov | it used to be, but in later releases of Asterisk it reloads everything |
| 04:15.32 | zishanov | but here I have this problem which I never had before. I don't understand what could be the reason |
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| 04:15.57 | zishanov | can anybody give me a simple sip.conf and extensions.conf sample to receive incoming calls. |
| 04:16.26 | SkramX | give? this late at night?... thank god my paypal acct never closes :) |
| 04:17.24 | drray | I guess I should look at going to 1.2 soon |
| 04:18.52 | Druken | zishanov: where ya getting the toronto did from ? |
| 04:18.57 | trixter | I am looking forward to ver 2.6 |
| 04:19.56 | zishanov | from one of the serivce providers, but they haven't launched their services yet |
| 04:20.03 | zishanov | its on trial |
| 04:20.52 | Druken | oh |
| 04:34.31 | Druken | woot! |
| 04:34.40 | Druken | i think i fixed my god damn dialplans... |
| 04:38.37 | SkramX | fun.. |
| 04:42.50 | mrdigital | Druken: what kinda setup you got? |
| 04:47.30 | mrdigital | niceeeeee |
| 04:48.04 | SkramX | (asterisk) |
| 04:48.05 | SkramX | heh |
| 04:49.04 | mrdigital | im doing a VOIP system for a obgyn doctors office after the holidays |
| 04:49.09 | smirl | Systemax 1U Rackmount / Dual (2) Intel Xeon Irwindale 2.8GHz, 2MB cache/ 4GB DDR2 / (2) 250GB SATA HDDs RAID 1 / CD-ROM / Dual Gigabit LAN / 420 Watt Power Supply / RAID 0, 1 Support / HotSwap :: $2428.75. anyone else want one? |
| 04:49.25 | mrdigital | smirl: for free ill take one |
| 04:49.45 | smirl | ok, merry christmas |
| 04:50.13 | smirl | i'll give it to you for free, just pay $2428.75 shipping |
| 04:50.22 | mrdigital | nope |
| 04:50.28 | smirl | lol |
| 04:50.37 | mrdigital | aint dumb :) |
| 04:50.46 | smirl | never implied that |
| 04:50.48 | *** part/#asterisk QbY (n=QbY@adsl-068-209-210-253.sip.cha.bellsouth.net) |
| 04:51.38 | mrdigital | smirl: pm? |
| 04:51.46 | smirl | sure |
| 04:52.40 | smirl | anyone else play on planetpoker? free tourney in 1hr 40 mins |
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| 05:10.54 | bkw__ | Look Ma.. Asterisk on my Tivo... NOT |
| 05:12.15 | SkramX | haha |
| 05:12.51 | bkw__ | I don't dare let asterisk near my tivo |
| 05:13.28 | bkw__ | or dare I say Tivo's |
| 05:14.02 | rajiv | can i have something like exten => ${BOB},1,Macro(stdexten) ? |
| 05:14.20 | bkw__ | yes |
| 05:14.53 | bkw__ | why not try.. before asking? |
| 05:14.55 | bkw__ | :P |
| 05:15.14 | rajiv | k |
| 05:24.13 | mishehu | bah. |
| 05:25.23 | *** part/#asterisk joat (n=joat@ip70-160-150-20.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 05:31.32 | bkw__ | and they say video games cause violence |
| 05:31.39 | bkw__ | apparently they forget Tom & Jerry |
| 05:31.50 | bkw__ | if that don't cause violence nothing will : |
| 05:31.50 | bkw__ | P |
| 05:32.13 | harryvv | thats different |
| 05:32.34 | harryvv | some kid shot two police officers and made the comment "life is just a vidio game" |
| 05:35.06 | harryvv | wish i knew enough about html. trying to put no spaces between cells. |
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| 05:37.27 | wolfson | cellspacing and cellpadding |
| 05:37.39 | wolfson | I believe are the two tags |
| 05:39.15 | bkw__ | kids that say "life is just a video game" are crazy |
| 05:39.20 | bkw__ | and video games don't cause people to kill |
| 05:39.40 | bkw__ | its weak minds that are more warped before they play said games |
| 05:48.59 | ManxPower | bkw__, the same could be said for recreational drugs. |
| 05:50.56 | mishehu | the same thing could be said about recreational sex |
| 05:50.58 | mishehu | errrr..... |
| 05:51.06 | mishehu | no, I guess not... |
| 05:54.21 | bkw__ | haha |
| 05:54.33 | bkw__ | well everyone is quick to blame someone else for their problems |
| 05:54.41 | bkw__ | they aren't responsible |
| 05:54.54 | mishehu | it's your fault, bkw__ |
| 05:54.57 | mishehu | just admit it |
| 05:55.03 | mishehu | it ain't my fault, that's for sure |
| 05:55.04 | bkw__ | haha right |
| 05:55.17 | mishehu | that Monitor() records silence nowadays |
| 05:55.35 | bkw__ | tiz broken I hear |
| 05:55.47 | mishehu | no shit. |
| 05:56.04 | bkw__ | thats not all I hear is broken :P |
| 05:56.11 | mishehu | it was working before, now it isn't. once something has been fixed, it's just a matter of time before it is broken again... at least arond here... |
| 05:56.32 | bkw__ | bingo |
| 06:01.54 | mishehu | pissed the shit out of me too. I wanted to send my parents a recording I made of a bitch at their corporate hq threatening me with lawyers if I didn't comply with the franchise agreement that my parents signed for their store that states that they can be required to remove any website using the company's name in it. |
| 06:02.36 | mishehu | especially since the bitch seems to think that a domain name, a web site, and an email system are the same, and that a mailing list is using an ms outlook distribution list... |
| 06:03.13 | mishehu | "we just want to protect our franchisees from liability" |
| 06:03.37 | mishehu | "we hope we won't have to use our lawyers" |
| 06:08.15 | drray | Unless it's foot traffic, I've never understood why you would buy a franchise |
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| 06:12.41 | benjk | Salve Coppicus |
| 06:14.18 | mishehu | drray: it's a candy store |
| 06:15.04 | harryvv | um, web sites can be protected as a tradname. |
| 06:15.08 | harryvv | trade name |
| 06:15.19 | benjk | trademark |
| 06:15.26 | harryvv | mishehu i missed most of what you were talking about. |
| 06:15.48 | benjk | but it's not usually the hosting company that gets any ownership in a hosted website |
| 06:17.10 | mishehu | well, in this case, the franchise agreement discusses specifically "website", and it says that franchisee may be required by franchisor to remove any website. |
| 06:18.12 | mishehu | and there is no website, and I have no problem with them not having a website. what I do have a problem with is being forced to use a cheapass pop3 mail provider for my parents when I have my own servers, and provide imap4 which is damn easier for them to use at multiple machines. |
| 06:18.14 | benjk | I see, so your parents are running a franchise for a candy store and they are not allowed to have their own website? |
| 06:18.43 | benjk | Ah, its only about a mail address |
| 06:18.58 | mishehu | benjk: correct, and according to this bitch of a woman, they are allowed to have johndoe@comcast.net, but not johndoe@XXXXXXXofSomeCity.com, where XXXXXXXXX is the name of the company |
| 06:19.25 | mishehu | but the franchise agreement only states website, not domain name nor email. |
| 06:19.41 | drray | aer you the exclusive franchise for the city? |
| 06:19.44 | mishehu | and regardless, I called for clarification, not to be treated like an asshole by this woman. |
| 06:19.52 | mishehu | drray: indeed. |
| 06:20.08 | drray | they are trying to protect thier brand name |
| 06:20.11 | mishehu | in fact, they are the only franchise in that state. |
| 06:20.20 | benjk | and you told her that there is a difference between website and mailserver? |
| 06:20.48 | drray | do they offer a mail address under thier domain? |
| 06:20.56 | drray | as part of your franchise? |
| 06:20.57 | benjk | and how about you offer to run a mail domain for them, with their own domain name |
| 06:21.03 | mishehu | benjk: I tried to, but if the woman thinks my parents should maintain a mailing list of 1000 of their best clients in ms outlook, then there is little hope for explaining that, and the company has no IT staff. |
| 06:21.36 | benjk | that's easy |
| 06:21.52 | benjk | you tell them that you parents are using Macs and that there is no MS-Outlook on Macs |
| 06:22.02 | mishehu | benjk: if push comes to shove, I will keep the domain name, but move my parents to another domain that is their dba |
| 06:22.11 | benjk | that they are unfamiliar with Windows and can only use Macs |
| 06:22.47 | mishehu | benjk: that doesn't distinguish a website from an email address. |
| 06:22.51 | benjk | try that "we're stupid too, we cant do MS-Outlook" route |
| 06:23.12 | mishehu | benjk: they told me to talk to their hosting company. |
| 06:23.26 | drray | why not just set liux up to work with their stuff and then feed the mail to your parents via imap |
| 06:23.36 | benjk | I realise that, but sometimes dealing with morons requires creativity in responding in extremely simple terms |
| 06:23.56 | mishehu | anyway, my parents said they'd take it up with the corporate president, they were constantly told up to this point that you could not run a website for purposes of online sales. |
| 06:24.13 | mishehu | never was there any mention of trademark or brandname issues. |
| 06:24.30 | drray | the online franchise is seperate from retail franchises |
| 06:25.00 | mishehu | all we were going to do was have a web page with a photo album from the store, and google maps frame |
| 06:25.05 | mishehu | and store hours. |
| 06:25.12 | mishehu | anyway, I must go to sleep. |
| 06:25.49 | mishehu | catch you guys later |
| 06:25.57 | benjk | sweat dreams |
| 06:26.05 | harryvv | who here does web sites? |
| 06:26.52 | benjk | you mean as a service or DIY? |
| 06:32.53 | mrdigital | harryvv: i do professional websites |
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| 06:34.07 | mogorman | MERRY ${HOLIDAY} |
| 06:34.36 | mrdigital | You too. |
| 06:36.42 | harryvv | mr, ohh well i was trying to find out why there is a space between the fig and the cell. Both are the same size. |
| 06:36.57 | harryvv | man i can hardly stay away. |
| 06:37.05 | harryvv | getting up at 4 am sucks :) |
| 06:37.38 | mogorman | ? |
| 06:38.05 | Corydon76-home | mogorman: Happy Christmahannakwaanzakah |
| 06:38.06 | harryvv | well im tired |
| 06:39.41 | benjk | going to bed at 4 am sucks too |
| 06:40.11 | mogorman | thanks Corydon |
| 06:40.28 | mogorman | thats why god created redbull people |
| 06:40.29 | harryvv | graves sucks heheh |
| 06:40.43 | SkramX | hey all. |
| 06:40.45 | harryvv | i think im going to bed. |
| 06:40.46 | harryvv | ;) |
| 06:40.58 | harryvv | sleap in...btw...its frcken warm here. in the 50s. |
| 06:41.22 | harryvv | in vancouver bc. pinapple express out of the pacific warmed this place up and is meling the snow. |
| 06:41.27 | harryvv | melting the snow. |
| 06:41.33 | coppice | benjk: if i go to bed at 4AM and get sucked, i'm quite happy |
| 06:41.48 | benjk | hmm, over here its 2005 and 2006 is coming up real soon, not sure how you can be in the 50s |
| 06:42.02 | benjk | LOL |
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| 06:44.02 | benjk | oh well, time to prepare the Knedliky for dinner |
| 06:44.06 | harryvv | if we have his kind of weather for the 2010 olympics the down hill will be rocks and grass. |
| 06:46.28 | harryvv | yesteray was a new record temp |
| 06:46.31 | coppice | what's Knedliky? |
| 06:46.57 | harryvv | night |
| 06:51.25 | mogorman | gnite people |
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| 06:52.01 | coppice | night? but its time for Christmas lunch |
| 06:52.07 | CoaxD | dude santa just got here |
| 06:52.23 | CoaxD | apparently, he knows how to put together princess, barbie, and thomas the tank engine stuff REAL FAST |
| 06:52.39 | CoaxD | but.. unfortuantely, we forgot milk 'n' cookies. he's pissed. so, wife's on her way to get some |
| 06:56.27 | coppice | he's been here with large delivery from thomas, too |
| 07:01.12 | coppice | personally, i think he's financed by the world's dentists to delivery all those socks full of candies |
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| 08:34.13 | yacine64 | Smirl, hello |
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| 08:50.49 | coppice | yacine64: R2 working yet? |
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| 09:10.06 | yacine64 | coppice, not working, i'm not able to patch the makefile fo unicall use!!! |
| 09:10.26 | a1fa | sleep time |
| 09:10.31 | yacine64 | followed the tutorial on http://zarzamora.com.mx/asterisk/48 |
| 09:10.43 | yacine64 | and still having issues |
| 09:13.18 | coppice | well, they keep changing the makefiles in *, so the patch has to change a little. however, if you look at the patch it is very simple. it should be easy to work out what need doing |
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| 09:17.51 | yacine64 | i know, but i'm not really used to work with Makefiles |
| 09:18.47 | SkramX | are you used to linux? :? |
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| 09:20.00 | tzafrir_laptop | The patch is pretty simple: lines beginning with + are added and lines beginning with - are removed. |
| 09:21.05 | tzafrir_laptop | Also note that a makefile operation must begin with a tab character, rather than a series of spaces. |
| 09:22.34 | yacine64 | ah ok, thanks so i'll try to create a makefile manually |
| 09:22.50 | tzafrir_laptop | edit, not create, please. |
| 09:23.07 | yacine64 | yes that's what i mean |
| 09:24.25 | a1fa | why does mpg123 spawn two times? |
| 09:24.37 | a1fa | asterisk 22514 0.0 2.8 3844 2648 ? S 01:48 0:00 mpg123 -q -s --mono -r 8000 -b 2048 -f 4096 piazzolla_verano_porteno.mp3 mahler ... |
| 09:24.44 | a1fa | and one more entry |
| 09:24.47 | a1fa | i dont get it |
| 09:24.51 | coppice | overactive sex hormones |
| 09:25.13 | a1fa | yeah |
| 09:25.13 | tzafrir_laptop | why would you use mpg123 in the first place? |
| 09:25.21 | a1fa | why not? |
| 09:27.10 | a1fa | anybody using X-Pro? |
| 09:29.40 | niZon | Does it have the crappy memory leak that x-lite does? |
| 09:30.24 | a1fa | what leak? |
| 09:30.25 | niZon | right now task manager says x-lite is using 85064K of memory |
| 09:30.46 | a1fa | 39356K of memory |
| 09:30.50 | a1fa | so? |
| 09:30.56 | a1fa | msn messenger is using 29k |
| 09:31.26 | a1fa | internet explorer is using 23k |
| 09:31.48 | niZon | 85MB of memory is retarded for such a small app |
| 09:32.14 | niZon | I just restarted it, now it's using 9984K |
| 09:33.07 | a1fa | wow :p |
| 09:33.08 | a1fa | nice |
| 09:33.13 | a1fa | they need to fix that |
| 09:33.18 | a1fa | but when you have 2gigs of ram |
| 09:33.22 | a1fa | who cares :P |
| 09:34.55 | a1fa | its free anyway |
| 09:36.46 | niZon | lol |
| 09:36.50 | niZon | I guess |
| 09:36.54 | a1fa | eyebeam looks line |
| 09:37.07 | niZon | they don't have a trial of eyebeam :\ |
| 09:37.35 | a1fa | i wonder if it will work with asterisk |
| 09:37.59 | niZon | I don't see why not |
| 09:38.46 | niZon | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+phone+xten+eyeBeam |
| 09:38.50 | a1fa | i wonderhow it sends video |
| 09:40.13 | niZon | using a fancy video codec I guess :P |
| 09:40.48 | a1fa | :P |
| 09:41.20 | a1fa | i am sure some1 has boot leg of that eyebeam in here |
| 09:41.35 | niZon | probablly |
| 09:41.36 | niZon | lol |
| 09:41.50 | a1fa | . Download the latest release eyeBeam 1.11 3004w. For latest news and changelog see the thread on Xten website |
| 09:41.53 | a1fa | actually |
| 09:41.58 | a1fa | it is linked on voip :P |
| 09:42.06 | a1fa | you can download it for free |
| 09:43.52 | a1fa | i wouldnt mind paying for it |
| 09:45.25 | niZon | lol |
| 09:45.28 | niZon | link? |
| 09:45.59 | niZon | nm |
| 09:46.00 | niZon | lol |
| 09:47.34 | a1fa | http://builds.xten.net/download/?406208535285a06cd7981976313fdcba |
| 09:47.39 | a1fa | i dont get it |
| 09:47.41 | a1fa | why is it free |
| 09:48.22 | a1fa | oh |
| 09:48.26 | a1fa | it wants license key |
| 09:50.34 | niZon | yeah |
| 09:50.35 | niZon | lol |
| 09:51.31 | a1fa | ok anybody got a license key> |
| 09:52.49 | niZon | well, not me |
| 09:58.16 | a1fa | :P |
| 09:58.20 | a1fa | i am just going to buy it |
| 09:58.22 | a1fa | one day |
| 09:58.22 | a1fa | hehe |
| 09:58.24 | a1fa | later guys |
| 09:58.27 | a1fa | time to hit the sack |
| 09:58.36 | a1fa | need to wake up in 6 hours and go over my gfs house for christmas |
| 09:59.26 | niZon | have a good one |
| 09:59.34 | niZon | and merry christmas |
| 10:01.03 | a1fa | thanks :P |
| 10:01.13 | a1fa | i celebrate christmas in january |
| 10:01.17 | a1fa | -- the orthodox thing |
| 10:01.23 | niZon | ah alright |
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| 10:01.49 | niZon | I'll just say happy holidays from now on |
| 10:01.50 | niZon | lol |
| 10:02.03 | a1fa | yup |
| 10:02.06 | smirl | anyone know where i can find the LiveEye presence software from Xten ? |
| 10:02.13 | smirl | supposedly it's freeware |
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| 10:02.20 | smirl | and it's included in the eyebeam SDK |
| 10:02.32 | smirl | but you have to buy the SDK :-p |
| 10:03.29 | a1fa | http://www.xten.com/index.php?menu=eyeBeamSDK |
| 10:03.37 | a1fa | yeah |
| 10:03.44 | a1fa | or |
| 10:03.47 | a1fa | you can download it |
| 10:03.49 | a1fa | from google |
| 10:04.18 | smirl | wasnt' able to find it with google actually |
| 10:04.32 | smirl | i tried about 25 searches |
| 10:06.13 | a1fa | suck |
| 10:06.27 | smirl | yeap |
| 10:06.39 | smirl | i'm trying to utilize the presence features in eyebeam |
| 10:07.16 | smirl | the peer-to-peer stuff works ok, but it updates on like a 5 minute timer... i'm used to more real-time DSS-BLF like buttons on a digital pbx |
| 10:08.12 | smirl | i can set the update timer down to like 60 seconds, or even 5, but then all the phones would be flooding the network with polling and refreshes :-p |
| 10:08.20 | smirl | not sure if that would negatively effect anything |
| 10:08.59 | smirl | i just hate having unused software features too... if eyebeam has it, i want to use it all :-p |
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| 10:34.39 | [hC] | Is there a compiletime option or something to compile speex in 1.2? |
| 10:38.14 | [hC] | nevermind... |
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| 11:12.01 | benjk | coppice: knedliky are Czech bun dumplings |
| 11:13.22 | benjk | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Knedliky&btnG=Google+Search |
| 11:13.40 | benjk | and they are absolutely terrific |
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| 12:05.26 | smirl | someone got a sip phone that can help me check if my presence setup is working? |
| 12:05.48 | smirl | pleeaaassseee |
| 12:05.54 | smirl | i beg you all |
| 12:10.10 | yacine64 | Smirl, hello |
| 12:10.20 | smirl | hi |
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| 12:10.25 | smirl | i don't have a mic |
| 12:10.28 | smirl | so i couldn't take your call |
| 12:10.45 | yacine64 | have u heard the ring tones ? |
| 12:10.45 | smirl | thanks, my presence works |
| 12:10.51 | smirl | ringtones? |
| 12:10.58 | yacine64 | i called u now |
| 12:11.00 | smirl | i heard you calling yes |
| 12:11.03 | smirl | i clicked ignore |
| 12:11.04 | smirl | lol |
| 12:11.08 | yacine64 | lol ok |
| 12:11.10 | smirl | sent u right to voicemail |
| 12:11.17 | smirl | the mic port on this pc is bad |
| 12:11.23 | smirl | and just plays a loud buzzing noise |
| 12:11.37 | smirl | did you have any luck with that E1 ? |
| 12:11.43 | yacine64 | do use asterisk, cause i have issues with this sip phone using my asterisk server, and it works great with urs |
| 12:11.55 | smirl | yea, its * |
| 12:12.09 | yacine64 | 1.2.1 ? |
| 12:12.23 | smirl | btw: i reconfigured the trunkgroup, you can dial US toll free numbers now |
| 12:12.25 | smirl | all you want |
| 12:12.36 | smirl | don't dial 9 first |
| 12:12.40 | yacine64 | thanks a lot |
| 12:13.05 | yacine64 | i'm having issues patching Makefile to work with unicall |
| 12:13.16 | yacine64 | so i'm trying to edit it manually |
| 12:13.41 | smirl | try dialing 18005558355 for me |
| 12:13.47 | yacine64 | ok |
| 12:14.36 | smirl | just curious if it works for u |
| 12:15.28 | yacine64 | wowww |
| 12:15.44 | yacine64 | it works great, with voice recognition |
| 12:16.09 | smirl | thats good, but my presence stopped working on you |
| 12:16.22 | smirl | it worked a few mins ago but just stopped :-( |
| 12:16.30 | smirl | now its working again |
| 12:16.35 | smirl | shows you "On the Phone" |
| 12:16.55 | smirl | from the main menu say "BlackJack" |
| 12:17.45 | yacine64 | i sayd Sports |
| 12:18.41 | smirl | ok, well you can use that to call digium support now if you need to |
| 12:18.54 | yacine64 | Blackjack works also |
| 12:19.09 | yacine64 | is this using asterisk ? |
| 12:19.21 | smirl | my server is asterisk yes |
| 12:19.33 | yacine64 | no, mean 18005558355 |
| 12:19.37 | smirl | no |
| 12:19.42 | smirl | i don't know what they are using |
| 12:19.47 | yacine64 | okay |
| 12:20.26 | yacine64 | thansk a lot |
| 12:20.31 | smirl | no prob |
| 12:20.49 | smirl | doesn't cost me anything ;-) |
| 12:21.52 | smirl | stupid presence only seems to be working sporatically though... i have no idea what's wrong |
| 12:22.14 | smirl | supposed to show on my softphone when you are online/offline on the phone, busy, or idle |
| 12:22.28 | smirl | it seems to only update sometimes |
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| 12:27.11 | Druken | MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!! |
| 12:27.16 | smirl | NO! |
| 12:28.01 | Druken | oh eat my ass with your bah humbug |
| 12:28.04 | Druken | :) |
| 12:28.24 | benjk | Druken: lol |
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| 12:37.26 | flot | hi all |
| 12:39.09 | flot | Prompt where most easier to get number for the organization callback? |
| 12:41.43 | smirl | ? |
| 12:42.13 | NewSole | Merry F@#$%& Ho Ho... To Every One |
| 12:43.52 | flot | Number for transfer of the fact of a call on it on * is necessary |
| 12:44.41 | NoNeo | Hi all. I have tried to configure asterisk as fax server, but in a moment it begins to crash at every call hang up. I have analysed core files using `strings` but without any results. Any idea? |
| 12:45.39 | NoNeo | -vvvvvvv tells nothing :-/ |
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| 13:53.38 | mover | merry xmas @all :-) |
| 13:53.57 | mover | anyone alive? |
| 13:54.03 | Druken | i am |
| 13:54.12 | Druken | kids are done and playing now :) |
| 13:54.19 | mover | hehe |
| 13:54.54 | mover | i have a hard headnut to break at the moment |
| 13:55.27 | Druken | i had one of those last night... was redoing my outgoing context.... |
| 13:55.52 | mover | i must realize this: |
| 13:56.20 | mover | incoming exten-> to fork to 2 separate calls with separate ringtime |
| 13:56.51 | Druken | ok, and? |
| 13:57.26 | mover | the thing that i have still ist dial(sip/123&sip/234,120,g) but i need a ringtime of 30 for 123 and 120 for 234 |
| 13:57.39 | mover | how i do that? |
| 13:57.54 | mover | the calls must be placed parallel |
| 13:58.36 | mover | if i do a dial in dialplan the dialplan stock at the dial command and didnt flow to the next dial :-( |
| 13:59.31 | Druken | you kinda lost me there, but that's ok... |
| 13:59.36 | tzafrir_laptop | mover: who is to answer those calls if they are in parallel? |
| 13:59.38 | Druken | so your trying to make 4 calls? |
| 14:00.05 | Druken | 234 seconds is a shitload long time... that's like 5 mins... |
| 14:00.28 | tzafrir_laptop | almost 6 |
| 14:00.44 | mover | Druken no 234 ist exten 120 (2 mins) is ringtime |
| 14:00.48 | tzafrir_laptop | almost 4, that is |
| 14:01.20 | Druken | oh.... ok |
| 14:01.30 | tzafrir_laptop | mover, if somebody picks up the call, who/what will he be talking to? |
| 14:01.36 | Druken | you want to ring extension 30 for 120 seconds |
| 14:02.26 | mover | Druken no exten 123 should be 30 seconds and exten 234 120 seconds |
| 14:02.43 | Druken | if i wanted to do that, i'd make a dummy context, with my seperate calls and their respective times, and then do a double local dial |
| 14:02.53 | mover | tzafrir_laptop : if one anser the call all is ok and calle called with the answered exten |
| 14:03.52 | mover | Druken yes fpr static extens its ok but i need it generig |
| 14:03.54 | mover | Druken yes fpr static extens its ok but i need it generic |
| 14:05.19 | mover | but it will be result in a serial dial right? |
| 14:05.26 | mover | i need it parallel |
| 14:05.58 | mover | like dial (tech/exten&tech/exten&tech/exten...) |
| 14:06.28 | mover | but with different ringtimes |
| 14:06.58 | mover | my quest sound impossible with asterisk right? |
| 14:07.14 | Druken | exactly |
| 14:07.16 | tzanger | mover: you can do it by spawning off a bunch of Local/ channels to do your dirty work I think |
| 14:07.24 | Druken | make bogus extensions in a context |
| 14:07.32 | tzanger | but really you need to rethink your plan |
| 14:07.45 | Druken | and dial LOCAL/ext1&LOCAL/exten |
| 14:08.13 | Druken | course, i'm not sure why you need diffrent ringtimes |
| 14:08.36 | Druken | just makes it all the more confusing for you... |
| 14:08.42 | mover | the complete background is the following: |
| 14:08.43 | tzanger | well personally I have this for my home phone |
| 14:08.52 | Druken | merry christmas tzanger :) |
| 14:09.18 | tzanger | exten => 2914574,1,Dial(IAX2/andrew@work/${MYDID}&IAX2/andrew@home/${MYDID},12,t) |
| 14:09.36 | tzanger | exten => 2914574,1,Dial(IAX2/andrew@home/${MYDID}&Zap/g1/${ANDREWCELL},24,rt) |
| 14:09.44 | tzanger | er the second one is '2' of course :-) |
| 14:09.48 | tzanger | Merry Christmas, Druken :-) |
| 14:10.00 | mover | 1: i have a extension there are want to ring 2 sipphones |
| 14:10.34 | tzanger | mover: I understand that, but what I'm saying is that I ring my office and home for 12 seconds, then "continue" to ring my home and cell for 24 |
| 14:10.57 | tzanger | my home phone appears to ring for 36 seconds |
| 14:11.01 | jontow | merry xmas, crazies |
| 14:11.03 | mover | 2: i have wrote a agi that will execute after dial and look it it now anser or busy... and place a setuped callredir to pstn |
| 14:11.42 | tzanger | mover: again it sounds like you need to rethink your plan... sounds overly complex, and I have written some very complex dialplans |
| 14:12.59 | mover | 3: if the setup from the phone without redir to pstn on ringtome 30 the dial will stop and my agi didnt redit to pstn because 120 seconds dont reached |
| 14:13.40 | tzanger | why do you not do that in a macro for each extension |
| 14:13.43 | Druken | tzanger: i'm sure you could have lots of fun with my dialplans |
| 14:14.01 | mover | tzanger how i do it in a macro? |
| 14:14.24 | tzanger | then just Dial(Local/${EXTEN1}@foo&Local${EXTEN2}@foo&Local/${EXTEN3}@foo) and have echo exten like this |
| 14:14.44 | tzanger | exten => exten1,1,Macro(${EXTEN},${EXTENCUSTOMRINGTIME}) |
| 14:15.11 | tzanger | and then have all of this in your macros? totally separate, infinently more configurable and readable than what you're trying to do now, and far, far clearer |
| 14:15.51 | mover | tzanger: can i fire to macros parallel? |
| 14:16.02 | mover | in which are dial commands? |
| 14:16.08 | tzanger | mover: you're calling them from Local/ extensions, they can do whatever you want really |
| 14:16.41 | mover | hmm i am to silly to understand the flow you mean .:-( |
| 14:16.46 | tzanger | nope |
| 14:16.52 | tzanger | I'm just trying to give you a better alternative |
| 14:17.01 | tzanger | Druken: :-) Oh I dunno. I have to be in the right frame of mind |
| 14:17.05 | Druken | too silly or too druged up ? |
| 14:17.22 | file[laptop] | yay ... awake |
| 14:17.34 | tzanger | Local/ channels let you call a part of your dialplan. |
| 14:17.50 | mover | ok |
| 14:18.03 | tzanger | so you happen to call an extension@context which runs a Macro() which does all your dirty work, including calling AGIs |
| 14:18.23 | Druken | tzanger: yeah.... i was trying to do it last night... my brain hurt |
| 14:18.39 | tzanger | Druken: I did a contract about a month ago that made my brain wilt |
| 14:18.50 | ariel_ | hello everyone, I would like to wish you all a great Christmas day.... |
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| 14:19.03 | mover | i will sleep a night about and see what i will really do :-) |
| 14:19.12 | mover | thanks all and merry xmas |
| 14:19.28 | tzanger | basically a call comes in to a did... it presents ringing tone to the caller while it goes and figures out what # to call, and calls it. if the called party answers, they are presented an authentication request and if they authenticate, they are connected to the caller |
| 14:19.39 | tzanger | if they can't authenticate or the dial times out the caller is redirected to voicemail |
| 14:19.58 | tzanger | and if the caller's caller ID matches a list of acceptable caller IDs they are dumped into their voicemail without authentication |
| 14:20.08 | tzanger | Merry Christmas, ariel_ |
| 14:20.09 | tzanger | et tu, mover |
| 14:22.19 | file[laptop] | I woke up early... :\ |
| 14:22.29 | tzanger | I didn't... went to bed at 10pm and slept until 8 |
| 14:22.40 | tzanger | my daughter crawled in around 7 or so |
| 14:23.03 | tzanger | http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/12/24/santa-051224.html |
| 14:23.04 | tzanger | heh |
| 14:23.57 | ariel_ | tzanger, nice you sleep. I did not go to be till 1 am. And my baby girl woke up at 6 am. |
| 14:24.08 | ariel_ | be/bed |
| 14:24.08 | tzanger | yikes |
| 14:24.17 | tzanger | I generally do not get to sleep so long |
| 14:24.27 | tzanger | typically it's bed at 12, sleep till 6:30 |
| 14:25.05 | ariel_ | now if I can find a way to get the sound off the kareoke mike my wife and girls got for xmas...It would sound better in the house....hehe |
| 14:25.16 | tzanger | hahahha |
| 14:25.59 | tzanger | every year I want to design a thin object that slips inbetween a battery and a terminal and responds to RF commands... think of the same materieal that the polyswitch resettable fuses uses... when it received a command it goes nonconductive |
| 14:26.03 | tzanger | instant silence |
| 14:26.08 | ariel_ | don't under stand why if you see a kareokee people think they can sing.. |
| 14:26.37 | tzanger | ariel_: ahh well the trick my friend is to go up after someone particuarly bad |
| 14:28.30 | RoyK | merry yule |
| 14:29.11 | tzanger | merry christmas, RoyK |
| 14:29.30 | tzanger | I love last.fm |
| 14:29.37 | tzanger | lastfm://globaltags/christmas |
| 14:29.45 | tzanger | instant hero to the kids |
| 14:30.12 | tzanger | and I don't have to screw around downloading this stuff |
| 14:30.17 | tzanger | personally I dislike most christmas music |
| 14:32.53 | Druken | what i dislike is the slowwwww classical christmas music |
| 14:33.02 | Druken | i like my music to have a bit of a beat... |
| 14:33.11 | Druken | not put me to sleep |
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| 14:43.38 | QbY | Problem in one of my queues.. After about ten seconds, the call is pushed inot another queue, i'm getting a "EXITWITHTIMEOUT" in the log. But I cannot seem to find this in queues.conf to change.. (history, this was _once_ an AMP installation, but the AMP is no longer used) |
| 14:53.26 | QbY | found it. disregard |
| 14:53.36 | tzanger | Druken: my music tastes are VERY eclectic |
| 14:53.48 | tzanger | I do enjoy some classical christmas music |
| 14:54.00 | tzanger | especially that one with the bells, I can't remmeber the name of it right now |
| 14:54.09 | QbY | Carol of the Bells? |
| 14:54.15 | tzanger | that may be it yes |
| 14:54.33 | file[laptop] | yay carol of the bells |
| 14:55.32 | tzanger | bah none of them are streamable |
| 14:56.10 | tzanger | ha |
| 14:56.21 | tzanger | there is a global tag called "dedicated to the death of carol the pope from outer space" |
| 14:56.39 | tzanger | haha I'm listening ot the Ramones right now |
| 14:56.41 | tzanger | hahaha |
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| 14:57.20 | tzanger | there's something not right about the ramones singing christmas tunes |
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| 15:01.03 | RoyK | ka-ding |
| 15:01.15 | RoyK | wtf is lastfm:// ? |
| 15:01.59 | newl | Nothing like a good mix of Tubular Bells followed up by Popcorn. 8) |
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| 15:08.21 | flot | Prompt, where it is possible to take telephone number for access on *? |
| 15:08.21 | flot | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.42 | flot | I unfortunately cannot learn English, it is impossible.... |
| 15:11.21 | flot | I need telephone number for calls to * |
| 15:12.26 | MikeJ[Laptop] | flot what country? |
| 15:12.34 | flot | Russian |
| 15:12.56 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I do not know anyone providing russion voip terminations.. |
| 15:13.01 | MikeJ[Laptop] | check the list on the wiki |
| 15:13.03 | Damin | Merry X-mas! |
| 15:13.05 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ~wiki |
| 15:13.11 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hmmm |
| 15:13.12 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ~docs |
| 15:13.14 | jbot | well, docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 15:13.32 | MikeJ[Laptop] | that wiki |
| 15:13.50 | flot | I need phone number - for call back only |
| 15:15.35 | rob0 | jbot: blue is not a good Christmas color |
| 15:15.37 | jbot | ...but blue is already something else... |
| 15:15.53 | rob0 | ~blue |
| 15:15.55 | jbot | blue is probably a colour |
| 15:15.58 | MikeJ[Laptop] | flot, I know, chek the wiki. |
| 15:16.33 | rob0 | I suppose a jaundiced smurf might be green ... |
| 15:16.40 | MikeJ[Laptop] | heh |
| 15:17.45 | rob0 | <--- was woke up way too early by excited kids |
| 15:22.53 | flot | I use www.stanaphone.com, but At attempt to call stanaphone ÏÔ×ÅÞÁÅÔÓÁÍÁ and at me on mobile ØÔÅÌÅÆÏÎÅ money drip |
| 15:23.04 | MikeJ[Laptop] | <---- had to come into the office to fix the server that keeps rebooting itself |
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| 15:23.13 | trixter | christmas for the sacramento aug is good thanks to thevoipconnection.com who acted like santa and donated a bunch of equipment for prizes in our contests :) |
| 15:23.32 | [TK]D-Fender | MikeJ[Laptop] : Mine kernel paniced on Friday.....had to go in too... |
| 15:23.35 | flot | At attempt to call stanaphone answers itself and at me on a mobile phone money drip |
| 15:23.46 | trixter | I am getting timeoutes to stanaphone right now |
| 15:24.01 | MikeJ[Laptop] | flot, ummmm, that sentence makes no sense to me.. |
| 15:24.01 | trixter | have been for 30 or so minutes |
| 15:24.27 | trixter | MikeJ[Laptop]: I think he meants that stanaphone answers when you are registered, becuase of the issues they are having they answer and since he is on a mobile it costs him money |
| 15:24.32 | MikeJ[Laptop] | this box boots every night between 8 and 9 pm without fail.. |
| 15:24.34 | trixter | er means |
| 15:24.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ok |
| 15:24.52 | MikeJ[Laptop] | cool.. then you answered his question. |
| 15:24.54 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :D |
| 15:25.17 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I'm running RAM diagnostics right now! |
| 15:25.55 | trixter | I have DIDs with most of the free providers for my home and so I keep track of them :P |
| 15:26.08 | Johnnie | I can't imagine RAM failing at the same time nightly. |
| 15:26.13 | trixter | MikeJ[Laptop]: I um guess I answered his question, I didnt realize that he had one though :P |
| 15:26.14 | Johnnie | Sounds like a crappy cron job. |
| 15:26.52 | trixter | it sucks when you have 'reboot' in your cron.daily |
| 15:27.08 | Johnnie | That's a hell of a thing to put in there. |
| 15:27.26 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hehe |
| 15:27.32 | MikeJ[Laptop] | not that regular... |
| 15:27.36 | MikeJ[Laptop] | time verries... |
| 15:27.41 | MikeJ[Laptop] | <sp>? |
| 15:27.47 | MikeJ[Laptop] | that's not right.. |
| 15:27.47 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hmm |
| 15:27.50 | MikeJ[Laptop] | anyways |
| 15:27.57 | Johnnie | By how much? |
| 15:28.07 | MikeJ[Laptop] | +- about an hour |
| 15:28.17 | Johnnie | Well, what occurs during that time each night? |
| 15:28.23 | Johnnie | What is the server doing or not doing? |
| 15:28.26 | MikeJ[Laptop] | heh |
| 15:28.28 | MikeJ[Laptop] | well.. |
| 15:28.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | first off, it's a win2k box. |
| 15:28.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :P |
| 15:28.43 | MikeJ[Laptop] | arrrgghh |
| 15:28.45 | Johnnie | Okay, that solves 95% of the problem. |
| 15:28.50 | flot | MikeJ[Laptop], I call NUMBER. Call -> *. * is registered this call , create CALL_FILE and 'handup'. But stanaphone --- IS REPLY to I blablabla, and MY CALL - My call becomes paid, and should be free-of-charge : ( |
| 15:28.55 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it bugchecks, dumps core, and reboots |
| 15:29.29 | MikeJ[Laptop] | all the tracing in the core leads back to corrupt memory pages, and dead ends... |
| 15:29.31 | Johnnie | Hmm, "bugchecks" ? |
| 15:29.34 | MikeJ[Laptop] | gotta love that.. |
| 15:29.48 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Johnnie, windows version of kernel panic |
| 15:30.15 | Johnnie | Yes, but I mean, what is going on at that time that leads up to this event? |
| 15:30.33 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ummm |
| 15:30.39 | MikeJ[Laptop] | pretty much nothing |
| 15:30.58 | Johnnie | Yet it seizes on schedule? |
| 15:30.59 | MikeJ[Laptop] | db dumps from another server are writing to that box, so a lot of disk IO |
| 15:31.06 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yep.. |
| 15:31.30 | MikeJ[Laptop] | we had the backup library hanging off that box till the other day we moved it to eliminate it, still dies |
| 15:31.40 | trixter | is it just disk io that in hammering the box or does it use a large amount of ram too? |
| 15:32.03 | Johnnie | What exactly does the box do then aside from that? |
| 15:32.04 | MikeJ[Laptop] | just IO, ram is not an issue, plus that box has 3GB of ram in it |
| 15:32.19 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Johnnie, when it dies, or regularly? |
| 15:32.31 | Johnnie | No, I mean, what is its primary job/role? |
| 15:32.31 | trixter | wonder if the cpu is underload and heats up during that time |
| 15:32.45 | trixter | and some process sees that and freaks and reboots |
| 15:32.47 | MikeJ[Laptop] | honestly, it's pretty much just a file server |
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| 15:33.14 | Johnnie | Oh, I'd zap it and put on Linux with Samba. :) |
| 15:33.18 | MikeJ[Laptop] | during the day, it also has a schduled process that compresses our db logs for log shipping offsite every 16 minutes.. |
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| 15:33.21 | MikeJ[Laptop] | 15 |
| 15:33.25 | trixter | woo after 117 consecutive failures with stanaphone I just registered.. wonder if its stable now or not |
| 15:33.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | but that isn't running at this time of night... |
| 15:33.43 | MikeJ[Laptop] | so it's cpu load is low... |
| 15:34.11 | trixter | well if its hammering the disk odds are the cpu is working a little harder than normal, do you have logs of the temp (I assume its a new enough machine to have temp sensors) |
| 15:34.13 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Johnnie, I agree, although I would probably put bsd on it for that kind of purpose... |
| 15:34.25 | trixter | that is the only thing I can think of if its not using some faulty device driver |
| 15:34.25 | Johnnie | Six in one hand, half dozen in the other. |
| 15:34.42 | Johnnie | The primary objective would be to dispatch Windows. |
| 15:34.42 | MikeJ[Laptop] | faulty driver is still my guess at this point... |
| 15:34.43 | Johnnie | haha |
| 15:34.57 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yes, I may throw 2003 on it first... |
| 15:35.02 | trixter | drivers are #1 killer for windows, why they have bene working on their hardware abstraction layer, to prevent bad drivers from taking the whole system down |
| 15:35.05 | Johnnie | I dunno about drivers. |
| 15:35.05 | RoyK | Gleðileg Jól |
| 15:35.21 | MikeJ[Laptop] | we have an issue in this shop with ability to support non windows stuff across the group.... |
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| 15:35.25 | Johnnie | I mean, it's strange to hear of a server downing itself on a daily schedule. :) |
| 15:35.49 | trixter | users dont care why a system crashes only that it did or did not. and the OS shouldnt let bad 3rd party software take it down ... it cant prevent it in all circumstances but any protection is better than none |
| 15:35.51 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Johnnie, well, it could be a bad raid card driver... |
| 15:36.02 | MikeJ[Laptop] | that responds to the io at that time of night.. |
| 15:36.10 | MikeJ[Laptop] | let me go check on my ram checks. |
| 15:36.12 | coppice | trixter: I find any USB driver for XP with the WHQwhatever mark will crunch the system |
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| 15:37.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | coppice!!! |
| 15:37.31 | tzafrir_laptop | I must say that I have had many unpleasent expriences with USB on linux as well. Where one faulty device would get the whole USB sussystem stuck |
| 15:37.45 | trixter | usb is basically one giant hack |
| 15:38.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | one giant sack? <g> |
| 15:38.32 | coppice | new USB device detection with XP seems to involve a random number generator |
| 15:39.18 | Johnnie | You know something that always made me laugh... |
| 15:39.34 | Johnnie | I setup a wireless network at my parents home some time back. |
| 15:39.55 | Johnnie | And, at the time, I had a Linksys Wireless USB adapter on one of the client machines. |
| 15:40.05 | Johnnie | It was, unfortunately, running XP Home. |
| 15:40.07 | trixter | coppice: windows seems to tie the device to the specific port it was plugged into, which I generally think is bad because if you swap cables on some devices it has to go through the whole 'found new hardware' part |
| 15:40.20 | Johnnie | And, if you'd plug the adapter into another port, it'd register as a new device. |
| 15:40.33 | Johnnie | Same MAC, same HW ID. |
| 15:40.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yep! |
| 15:40.43 | Johnnie | Each port constituted a new driver install. |
| 15:40.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ain't it fun |
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| 15:40.59 | Johnnie | Never understood the Redmond logic. |
| 15:41.15 | coppice | trixter: i wish it tied things more. there is no way with XP to figure out which USB serial gadget is which com port number |
| 15:41.19 | MikeJ[Laptop] | windows says, hmmm somthings different here, I don't get it... oh welll &%^#( it... |
| 15:41.22 | Johnnie | I get heckled for using Gentoo, but it's a far cry better than Microslop. |
| 15:41.41 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hmmmm |
| 15:41.47 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I dunno... |
| 15:41.54 | tzafrir_laptop | This is "user friendliness", plus the fact that XP users tend not to have the device drivers built-in |
| 15:41.58 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I live in both worlds, they all have their place.. |
| 15:43.04 | Johnnie | MikeJ, I do too, but I have a hard time using and paying for what I consider to be an inferior product. |
| 15:43.09 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I would not want to train every idiot who walks in the door a new OS and office suite... |
| 15:43.18 | Johnnie | I am by no means cheap... it's not that. |
| 15:43.29 | coppice | I would not want to train every idiot who walks in the door |
| 15:43.30 | tzafrir_laptop | Johnnie, so don't pay. |
| 15:43.32 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Johnnie, it's cheaper than re-training... |
| 15:43.40 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hehe |
| 15:43.43 | Johnnie | tzafrir_laptop: I don't. ;) |
| 15:43.47 | tzafrir_laptop | and don't use |
| 15:44.18 | MikeJ[Laptop] | plus there is the whole support thing, although open source is starting to figure that piece out... |
| 15:44.48 | MikeJ[Laptop] | although there is a long way to go...the thing ms has is the whole integrated thing, that is hard to provide right now with open source |
| 15:45.10 | MikeJ[Laptop] | everything looks\feels the same and "works" together so to say... |
| 15:45.18 | MikeJ[Laptop] | you don't get that with open source... |
| 15:45.21 | tzafrir_laptop | MikeJ[Laptop], MS are not the major support providers for their products. |
| 15:45.41 | coppice | MikeJ: garbage. no two things from MS look and feel the same |
| 15:45.42 | MikeJ[Laptop] | tzafrir_laptop, I know..... but that's not the point.. |
| 15:46.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | coppice, well, I pose this to you... hand a windows administrator who has never touched a webserver IIS and Apache... |
| 15:46.21 | MikeJ[Laptop] | and No docs or access to docs |
| 15:46.28 | MikeJ[Laptop] | which does he figure out first. |
| 15:46.44 | coppice | he'll struggle with both for a while |
| 15:46.53 | MikeJ[Laptop] | heh |
| 15:47.01 | MikeJ[Laptop] | but you see where I am comming from... |
| 15:47.07 | Johnnie | I agree with that, coppice. |
| 15:47.10 | tzafrir_laptop | MikeJ[Laptop], and which he'll actually be able to troubleshoot a few weeks later |
| 15:47.20 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hehe |
| 15:47.42 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I am not claiming the superiority of iis by any means.... it has some issues to say the least... |
| 15:48.07 | MikeJ[Laptop] | but there is a consistency of front end configuration for many things now on windows.... |
| 15:48.22 | coppice | MikeJ: not really WTF happened to the drawing in Word 97? it disappeared in later versions. Call that consistent. it wastes endless hours, and its just done to force sales of other products like visio. |
| 15:48.25 | MikeJ[Laptop] | on *NIX it is often distro and app specific |
| 15:48.48 | MikeJ[Laptop] | coppice, not to mention the org chart applet... |
| 15:48.50 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I agree... |
| 15:48.57 | tzafrir_laptop | MikeJ[Laptop], but can you say that about *windows user* and IIS? |
| 15:49.03 | MikeJ[Laptop] | heh.. |
| 15:49.19 | tzafrir_laptop | How about Unix admin and apache? |
| 15:49.29 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I can say that about windows users and the office suite to some other apps perhaps.. |
| 15:49.46 | MikeJ[Laptop] | the issue is, when hiring idiots off the street, you have windows users. period. |
| 15:50.08 | MikeJ[Laptop] | on the server side, you have choices in the kind of admins you hire... |
| 15:50.12 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hmm |
| 15:50.22 | MikeJ[Laptop] | going to check my memory diags again |
| 15:52.21 | MikeJ[Laptop] | back |
| 15:55.24 | a1fa | what coded |
| 15:55.29 | a1fa | can work over dialup |
| 15:56.02 | MikeJ[Laptop] | any of them if it is fast enough :P |
| 15:56.05 | a1fa | lo |
| 15:56.12 | a1fa | which one needs the least bandwidth |
| 15:56.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ummmm |
| 15:56.27 | MikeJ[Laptop] | well, that is a mixture of things... |
| 15:56.37 | a1fa | i used to have a spreadhseet |
| 15:56.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | the compression rate of the codec, and how many frames you send per packet... |
| 15:57.03 | MikeJ[Laptop] | the sending more at once is pretty necessary on dialup.. |
| 15:57.30 | MikeJ[Laptop] | the support for diff sized on asterisk is weak at the moment tho.. |
| 15:57.42 | Katty | today is so depressing :< |
| 15:57.47 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yes... |
| 15:58.03 | Katty | i have no big family. |
| 15:58.12 | Katty | and what family i do have, they don't celebrate christmas |
| 15:58.13 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hey.. who knows what jew's do on christmas? |
| 15:58.16 | Katty | and it's raining outside. |
| 15:58.41 | tzanger | merry christmas Katty |
| 15:58.49 | Katty | thanks tzanger.. you too (= |
| 15:58.56 | tzafrir_laptop | Actually jews this year celebrate Hanuka almost at the same day as Christmas |
| 15:58.58 | Katty | last year i got 15 cards from irc peoples. |
| 15:59.07 | Katty | this year - just one. |
| 15:59.22 | Katty | and it wasn't even from an irc person..it was from a supplier of ours at work )= |
| 15:59.28 | MikeJ[Laptop] | tzafrir_laptop, yes true.. but christmas for jews is.... |
| 15:59.36 | tzanger | heh |
| 15:59.38 | MikeJ[Laptop] | chinese food and movies of course! |
| 15:59.55 | tzanger | I got a card addressed to 'andrew "oh my gawd is he hot or what" kohlsmith" |
| 15:59.57 | MikeJ[Laptop] | cuz it's the only thing open.. |
| 16:00.04 | MikeJ[Laptop] | nice.... |
| 16:00.07 | Katty | tzanger: )= |
| 16:00.15 | tzanger | I should have kept the envelope :-) |
| 16:00.26 | MikeJ[Laptop] | tzanger, so who was blowing smoke up your... :P |
| 16:00.29 | Katty | you know what i wish? |
| 16:00.32 | tzanger | an ex gf :-) |
| 16:00.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hehe |
| 16:00.43 | Katty | as many people as i send cookies to, and letters to... |
| 16:00.47 | tzafrir_laptop | MikeJ[Laptop], early Hanuka? Missing an excuse for a celebration is not a good idea |
| 16:00.53 | Katty | i wish sometimes they'd at least write me back or send me a thank you note. |
| 16:01.03 | tzanger | Katty: I hear ya there |
| 16:01.21 | MikeJ[Laptop] | naw.. |
| 16:01.22 | tzanger | I tend to make my random acts of kindness much more distributed and faster |
| 16:01.31 | MikeJ[Laptop] | heh |
| 16:01.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I like random gifts throughout the year... |
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| 16:01.55 | tzanger | I left a waitress who was just starting a $20 tip for a $18 meal |
| 16:02.06 | Katty | tzanger: very sweet of you (= |
| 16:02.07 | MikeJ[Laptop] | but wife doesn't seem to appretiate it when she does not get somthing on anneversary, birthday, ect... |
| 16:02.31 | MikeJ[Laptop] | awww.. isn't he just the sweetest cutest little boy.... |
| 16:02.44 | tzanger | or whenever I'm at Zellers (think Canadian Wal-Mart) I let the little old lady behind me collect my HBC reward points (that is a little less altruistic... it fucks with their customer tracking) |
| 16:03.15 | tzanger | every now and again when I go through the drive-thru for a coffee I'll pay for the person behind me too |
| 16:03.28 | tzanger | little random things |
| 16:03.36 | MikeJ[Laptop] | that's cute.. |
| 16:03.43 | MikeJ[Laptop] | tzanger, where do you live? |
| 16:03.46 | ManxPower | I figure I'm being nice when I don't kill stupid people. That should be enough. |
| 16:03.51 | tzanger | MikeJ[Laptop]: midwestern ontario |
| 16:04.06 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hamilton? |
| 16:04.13 | MikeJ[Laptop] | no. |
| 16:04.13 | tzanger | about an hour and a bit from there |
| 16:04.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | that's east |
| 16:04.25 | MikeJ[Laptop] | we are not that far... |
| 16:04.33 | tzanger | MikeJ[Laptop]: I thought you were in MI |
| 16:04.38 | MikeJ[Laptop] | detroit. |
| 16:04.44 | tzanger | yeah that's what I thought |
| 16:04.56 | MikeJ[Laptop] | we need a random toronto trip excuse.. |
| 16:05.04 | MikeJ[Laptop] | need to go smoke, brb |
| 16:05.12 | tzanger | MikeJ[Laptop]: yeah I hear ya wrt gifts... my gf's romanian and I'm learning the rules are quite a bit different for them :-) |
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| 16:06.20 | ManxPower | My significant others know I don't really celebrate holidays. I do, however, tend to buy gifts around a holiday if it's something that I really think they would like. |
| 16:08.01 | a1fa | you are so sweet |
| 16:08.19 | tzanger | I really hate receiving gifts personally... giving them is cool when they're not expected |
| 16:08.21 | a1fa | you got more then one significat other? |
| 16:08.37 | a1fa | tzanger: i hate buying and receieving presents |
| 16:08.43 | a1fa | tzanger: thats why i give out cash |
| 16:08.53 | a1fa | i dont mind giving cash as a present |
| 16:10.15 | ManxPower | tzanger, I don't do the silly wrapping of the gift or the silly waiting until a specific day/time. |
| 16:10.26 | tzanger | well I do with the kids |
| 16:10.47 | tzanger | but yeah my favourite holiday is thanksgiving... it's everything christmas is supposed to be without the expectation of gifts |
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| 16:12.39 | jahani | hi |
| 16:12.50 | jahani | what mean this error |
| 16:12.52 | jahani | Dec 25 16:08:21 WARNING[6820]: chan_sip.c:1208 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on transmission GWe064952f7b779d39@192.168.0.1 for seqno 2 (Critical Response) |
| 16:12.53 | jahani | ? |
| 16:13.08 | tzanger | jahani: sounds like the far side couldn't be contacted |
| 16:13.53 | ManxPower | DirectPC's transparent proxy SUCKS. |
| 16:14.06 | tzanger | it's not so transparent? |
| 16:14.29 | ManxPower | tzanger, no, it's not so transparent |
| 16:14.29 | MikeJ[Laptop] | its opaque! |
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| 16:14.38 | tzanger | merry christmas bkw__ |
| 16:15.03 | ManxPower | First it was just a few web sites that would come back with "Bad Response", now lots of sites just come back with a blank page. |
| 16:15.47 | ManxPower | and then it starts working again. |
| 16:16.07 | ManxPower | At least Verizon Wireless's proxy is squid and they don't hide the fact. |
| 16:17.30 | blitzrage | happy politically correct day of winter festivities everyone! |
| 16:18.08 | tzanger | bah |
| 16:18.12 | ManxPower | I get REALLY weird looks when I wish people "Happy Holidays" around where I live now. |
| 16:18.17 | tzanger | Merry Christmas, and if you take offence to that then fuck ya. |
| 16:18.53 | tzanger | that's like the time I opened a door for a women and she berated me for doing so. fine then, fuck ya. |
| 16:20.06 | ManxPower | tzanger, "If I knew you are a militant lesbian I would not have opened the door for you." |
| 16:20.21 | tzanger | nah |
| 16:20.43 | tzanger | I hold doors open for guys, I open doors for women or for people with their hands full |
| 16:23.31 | jahani | what mean transparent proxy ? |
| 16:25.45 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it's a proxy you can see through |
| 16:26.12 | tzanger | heh |
| 16:26.17 | tzanger | be nice |
| 16:26.28 | coppice | I hold doors open for people with special needs. in the case of cute women, the special needs are mine |
| 16:26.31 | MikeJ[Laptop] | sorry.. couldn't help it |
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| 16:26.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | coppice, heh |
| 16:26.38 | MikeJ[Laptop] | nice\ |
| 16:26.43 | tzanger | merry christmas, coppice |
| 16:27.45 | coppice | christmas is over |
| 16:27.53 | tzanger | perhaps, it's only 11:30 here |
| 16:27.59 | MikeJ[Laptop] | coppice, you + timezone freak! |
| 16:28.26 | coppice | christmas day is just so half an hour ago |
| 16:28.41 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it's only 16:30 |
| 16:29.07 | MikeJ[Laptop] | doesn't everyone live their lives based on GMT? |
| 16:29.24 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it would make life SOOO much easier if there were just 1 timezone |
| 16:29.27 | coppice | I thought everyone used CST |
| 16:29.50 | MikeJ[Laptop] | coppice, just in asterisk land I think! |
| 16:30.04 | MikeJ[Laptop] | except for silly alaws! |
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| 16:31.38 | inv_Arp | GMT=UTC? |
| 16:32.11 | coppice | I guess about 1/3 of the human race uses one time zone. |
| 16:32.42 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ? |
| 16:32.56 | trixter | coppice: and the other 2/3 uses a different timezone :P |
| 16:33.32 | MikeJ[Laptop] | which one? |
| 16:33.42 | trixter | the one the 1/3 uses or not |
| 16:33.49 | trixter | see there are only 2 that way instead of 26 |
| 16:33.52 | trixter | makes it a lot easier |
| 16:33.55 | coppice | seriously. CST (GMT +8) is used by all China, Indonesia, Malaysia |
| 16:34.16 | mrdigital | hey, i feel bad for the people who only get money for christmas because they cant spend any of it until monday |
| 16:34.22 | coppice | philipinnes. some of south east asia |
| 16:34.31 | trixter | at least novia scotias timezone isnt the primary one.. they are one of the 2 weird half hour zones |
| 16:34.32 | TheCops | lol mrdigital |
| 16:34.52 | TheCops | mrdigital, the good thing to do is to spend money before on a CC and get back at christmas |
| 16:35.00 | mrdigital | TheCops, know what i did? |
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| 16:35.02 | coppice | mrdigital. depends where you live |
| 16:35.21 | trixter | I bet stores are normally open in isreal on schristmas |
| 16:35.31 | TheCops | not in quebec, canada. |
| 16:35.34 | trixter | this year is a bit special |
| 16:35.42 | TheCops | why ? |
| 16:35.42 | mrdigital | my family is KINDA poor, so i went out and bought myself a whole bunch of shit ... then when christmas day was here i wrapped em all up |
| 16:35.43 | mrdigital | lol |
| 16:35.47 | MikeJ[Laptop] | http://lists.openpbx.org/pipermail/openpbx-svn/2005-December/001119.html .. heh |
| 16:36.15 | MikeJ[Laptop] | that makes me giggle |
| 16:36.32 | TheCops | hahaha MikeJ[Laptop] |
| 16:36.59 | coppice | the silly one would be the american who hasn't noticed practically everyone uses A-law |
| 16:36.59 | trixter | TheCops: chanaukah starts today |
| 16:37.01 | ManxPower | I think my christmas present to my customers is to install postfix greylisting on their servers. |
| 16:37.13 | TheCops | trixter dont know what's it |
| 16:37.19 | trixter | so its special in that regard normally its not the same day so normally christmas isnt a day off in israel |
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| 16:37.36 | trixter | ahh its the jewish end of the year holiday - in a nutshell |
| 16:37.40 | trixter | http://www.holidays.net/chanukah/ |
| 16:37.59 | ManxPower | Odd how so many religions have an end of year celebrations. |
| 16:38.03 | trixter | 8 days you light one candle per day on the minora |
| 16:38.07 | coppice | most people celebrate christmas with some name or other attached to it |
| 16:38.12 | ManxPower | What's the Islamic and Hindu celebrations called? |
| 16:38.21 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ummm |
| 16:38.24 | trixter | ramadan which was last month for muslim |
| 16:38.30 | MikeJ[Laptop] | chanukah isn't the end of year... |
| 16:38.32 | trixter | hindu I have no idea |
| 16:38.46 | trixter | its the 25th day in some jewish month I forget the name of |
| 16:38.47 | MikeJ[Laptop] | the end of the jewish year is quite a bit off |
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| 16:38.52 | trixter | its normally near christmas |
| 16:38.56 | coppice | what's odd is how they have all been bumped around. they clearly were all onthe 22nd to begin with |
| 16:39.02 | ManxPower | Chanaukah, Christmas, Yule, Ramadan |
| 16:39.05 | TheCops | trixter you are come from israel |
| 16:39.06 | TheCops | ? |
| 16:39.07 | trixter | end of the year in the gregorian calendar |
| 16:39.15 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :P |
| 16:39.19 | trixter | I am not going into chineese new years or anything else when talking to someone that doesnt even know what it is |
| 16:39.27 | ManxPower | I should have said "winter" rather than "end of year" |
| 16:39.29 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yeah, but who goes by that silly calendar... |
| 16:39.40 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :P |
| 16:39.52 | trixter | I know that there are multiple calendar systems but if someone has never heard of chanakah before then odds are htey dont know that there is a calendar other than gregorian |
| 16:39.57 | coppice | even people like the chinese, using the lunar calendar, make the solstice the biggest festival of the year |
| 16:40.06 | ManxPower | We know why christmas is when it is. Being close to Yule it made it easier to convert the pagans (same with the christmas tree) |
| 16:40.21 | trixter | 8000 years ago equinoxes and solstices were festivals in ireland |
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| 16:40.37 | trixter | largely becuase of being tied to a farming society |
| 16:40.58 | trixter | I thought the christmas tree started because it forms a triangle, ie the trinity |
| 16:41.15 | MikeJ[Laptop] | bbc on religion has had some really interesting pieces lately on the connection beteween all the diff holidays and their origens |
| 16:41.22 | coppice | the christmas is a late 19th century thing |
| 16:41.27 | ManxPower | trixter, Naw, Yule had a "Yule Tree". |
| 16:41.30 | trixter | isnt november in ireland when they have the bone fire (later called bonfire) -- keep in mind this is traditional ie thousands of years ago) and it was harvest related |
| 16:41.44 | coppice | s/mas/mas tree |
| 16:41.49 | MikeJ[Laptop] | trixter, nope... it stolen from another religion... the astroliger dudes who showed up at jesus |
| 16:41.57 | MikeJ[Laptop] | 's birth.. I think |
| 16:42.10 | tzafrir_laptop | anyway, the number 24 seems to come from the date jewish holiday Hanukka(sp?) |
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| 16:42.33 | trixter | I know patrick liked the shamrock becuase of the trinity tie in |
| 16:42.35 | ManxPower | tzafrir_laptop, All of these are ultimatly related to the winter solstace |
| 16:42.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | you can spell it several ways in english./. |
| 16:42.52 | trixter | even though he was a welchman sold into slavery in ireland he still liked to help them out |
| 16:42.52 | *** part/#asterisk asterisknoob (n=jkdfkjfs@210.213.242.156) |
| 16:43.21 | ManxPower | My trinity is Asterisk, Linux, and Polycom 8-) |
| 16:44.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | mine is me, myself, and I :P |
| 16:44.52 | trixter | hrm martin luther decorated a tree in the 1500s or so - or so the rumor goes ... granted the trinity tie in would have to be less than 2000 years old but I thought it was closer to 500 not 1500 ... |
| 16:45.10 | trixter | the *modern* tree stuff started about 1890 or so but other stuff seems to predate that |
| 16:45.36 | SwK | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.37 | trixter | Long before the advent of Christianity, plants and trees that remained green all year had a special meaning for people in the winter. -- http://www.historychannel.com/exhibits/holidays/christmas/trees.html |
| 16:45.45 | trixter | HAHA yeah if stays green all year so lets kill it!!! |
| 16:46.29 | coppice | the 1890 date is prince albert popularising various christmas things in the UK. he brought those from germany, so the martin luther origin is probably right |
| 16:46.52 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hey hey hey swk... |
| 16:47.03 | MikeJ[Laptop] | 8 to the 8 to the 8? |
| 16:47.05 | ManxPower | SwK, Or THC, Nicotine, Caffeine |
| 16:47.09 | trixter | But, as late as the 1840s Christmas trees were seen as pagan symbols and not accepted by most Americans. -0- my how times have changed |
| 16:47.56 | coppice | as late as this week americans were seen as pagans, and not accepted by most humans |
| 16:48.33 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :D |
| 16:48.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hey, don't blame all of us.... |
| 16:49.07 | ManxPower | Not all of us voted for Reverand Bush |
| 16:49.52 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I beleive the correct term is either lord or emporer |
| 16:49.52 | MikeJ[Laptop] | that;s not spelled right |
| 16:49.52 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :( |
| 16:49.57 | ManxPower | MikeJ[Laptop], I disagree. Neither of those have religion as a central force. |
| 16:50.05 | MikeJ[Laptop] | lord? |
| 16:50.41 | ManxPower | How about Crusader Bush |
| 16:50.59 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hey.. guess what... the american president has decided that we are now under martial law, and he gets to superceede basic checks and ballances and do whatever he wants.. |
| 16:51.08 | MikeJ[Laptop] | YAY!.. I love martial law |
| 16:51.18 | ManxPower | MikeJ[Laptop], Like that's any suprize. |
| 16:51.33 | coppice | King George the Lion Heart, and the Knights Templar |
| 16:52.00 | trixter | not all of voted to elect the congress people that are voting in these laws |
| 16:52.20 | ManxPower | Fortunatly Bush can't get elected again. |
| 16:52.39 | ManxPower | Well in theory. If he does I'm applying as a political refugee. |
| 16:52.47 | trixter | unfortunately all the congress people that voted in the laws that enabled bush to do what people complain about ARE going to be reelected |
| 16:53.04 | trixter | he is 2nd term constitutionally he cant without an amendment which will take at least 7 years to ratify |
| 16:53.27 | ManxPower | trixter, Hence "in theory" |
| 16:53.28 | trixter | the reason for 7 is to ensure that at least 1 election occurs for everyone, senators serve for 6 year terms |
| 16:53.54 | ManxPower | If Bush used the "we are at war" excuse to wiretap, he could use it to stay in office too. |
| 16:54.17 | ManxPower | I REALLY doubt it would happen, but I never thought he could be elected for a 2nd term either. |
| 16:54.21 | trixter | what is funny is that congress people claim they either didnt read laws before voting on them, didnt understand them before voting on them, didnt whatever -- ie they are unqualified and not doing their jobs - yet they demand a paycheck |
| 16:54.35 | trixter | he cant use that to stay in office |
| 16:54.47 | coppice | why else would someone declare something blatantly unwinable to be a war? |
| 16:54.57 | trixter | while congress did authorize military force and in the same document cited the war powers act |
| 16:55.29 | trixter | and while in 1998 congress did pass extra legislation (which clinton signed into law in october 2 1998) which expanded the wiretap statutes |
| 16:55.41 | coppice | ManxPower: A ruler who starts a war will *always* win the next election |
| 16:55.47 | trixter | the COURTS have MANY TIMES since 1978 ruled that FISA cant take away all the presidents constitutional abilities |
| 16:56.04 | trixter | coppice: not always, but generally yes |
| 16:56.48 | trixter | infact all courts agree that the constutional powers given to the president which includes wiretapping without warrants for intelligence purposes are authorized, no court has dissented in any case brought before it |
| 16:56.58 | trixter | in america of course I am not speaking on legal cases elsewhere |
| 16:57.07 | coppice | Mrs Thatcher was heading for a historic defeat in the election when the Falklands war was allowed to start. then she won a landslide victory |
| 16:57.13 | trixter | becuase congress does not have the power to rob the president of constutional powers |
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| 17:04.13 | trixter | gonna get food now but if anyone wants to research the courts rulings which predate the bush presidential order -- whe wall street journal cited some cases in its Dec 20 article on page A14 |
| 17:04.43 | trixter | the 2002 opinion by the special panel of appellate judges established to hear FISA appeals. In its per curiam opinion, the court noted that in a previous FISA case (U.S. v. Truong), a federal "court, as did all the other courts to have decided the issue [our emphasis], held that the President did have inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches to obtain foreign intelligence information." |
| 17:04.54 | trixter | note the 'all other courts' part when it cites prior cases to the 2002 one |
| 17:06.45 | LostFrog | How did this convo start in #asterisk? |
| 17:07.14 | coppice | * == anything |
| 17:07.23 | LostFrog | True.. True.. |
| 17:07.39 | LostFrog | So. how about those transexual transvetites from transylvania? |
| 17:08.51 | macTijn | ahhh |
| 17:09.00 | macTijn | rocky horror picture show++ |
| 17:09.06 | LostFrog | rhps |
| 17:09.44 | macTijn | but maybe that's because I was kinda drunk when I saw that |
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| 17:18.25 | trixter | still have a couple tickets to etel for $200 if anyone wants to go |
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| 17:20.18 | gnosys | anybody here use Asterisk::LDAP ? Care to comment on your satisfaction with it? |
| 17:20.22 | trixter | :( ipaq linux only has asterisk 1.0.7 ... I might make a new version for that cause that would be handy to have |
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| 17:31.47 | harryvv | well |
| 17:32.12 | mrdigital | harryvv: arent you looing for a web designer? |
| 17:32.14 | harryvv | does the lattest version of asterisk suppurt sms? |
| 17:32.20 | harryvv | no |
| 17:32.23 | harryvv | im making my own |
| 17:32.26 | mrdigital | somone did |
| 17:32.32 | mrdigital | they asked whoes a web designer |
| 17:32.38 | mrdigital | last nigh |
| 17:32.38 | mrdigital | t |
| 17:32.42 | harryvv | bye |
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| 17:39.26 | gnosys | anybody here use Asterisk::LDAP ? |
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| 17:40.57 | mrdigital | isnt ldap a windows nt user authentication? |
| 17:41.05 | zishanov | whats the different between extensions _. _X. and s , they all do the same thing |
| 17:42.19 | Druken | s == start |
| 17:42.28 | Druken | _X. == anything dialed |
| 17:43.32 | zishanov | I know that much, but in my extensions.conf, my [incoming] receives calls and go through the context without any problem, whetehr it is s or _X. |
| 17:43.54 | zishanov | then should I be using s or _X., and why? |
| 17:44.03 | Druken | i belive s is more for an analog fxo card |
| 17:44.12 | mrdigital | bbl |
| 17:44.22 | zishanov | I also thought so, but today its working great for sip as well |
| 17:44.23 | mrdigital | merry xmas to those who celebrate |
| 17:44.40 | zishanov | is thery any change in its behaviour since Asterisk 1.2 |
| 17:44.46 | Druken | no idea |
| 17:45.12 | zishanov | I should ask this on digium post. s never worked for my sip before, and today it has no problem working |
| 17:46.00 | Druken | i wouldn't use a start on a sip or iax incoming... but that is me |
| 17:47.03 | zishanov | but why, what would be the reason. I am making dial plan for somebody and I don't want any bugs in it |
| 17:47.48 | Druken | just my pref. |
| 17:52.51 | r0d3nt | http://www.ratman.org/mobilecam/ |
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| 17:56.18 | mrdigital | r0d3nt: which one is ratman? :) |
| 17:57.55 | mrdigital | nice someone has a mac mini |
| 18:03.47 | robl^ | hey! I have a mac mini too! :) |
| 18:04.04 | r0d3nt | ratman is the human |
| 18:04.06 | r0d3nt | sid is the dog |
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| 18:14.19 | gnosys | does anybody here use Asterisk::LDAP ? |
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| 18:28.13 | lahous | hello every body! |
| 18:28.59 | shmaltz | hi |
| 18:29.01 | r0d3nt | hi |
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| 18:34.44 | riddlebox | in order to have a Broadvoice as your incoming calls what do you put in your incoming in extensions.conf? |
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| 18:38.10 | QbY | Broadvoice sucks |
| 18:38.12 | QbY | bad |
| 18:39.16 | iCEBrkr | How is there 259 people in here, but only about 30 actually participate in conversation? |
| 18:39.28 | Qwell[] | iCEBrkr: because...it's Christmas? |
| 18:39.59 | Qwell[] | The rest are all off playing with their new ATAs and IP phones |
| 18:40.09 | Qwell[] | (bastards...the lot of them) |
| 18:40.58 | file[laptop] | :P |
| 18:41.10 | Qwell[] | file[laptop]: ;] |
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| 18:42.37 | shmaltz | hi, Qwell, congrats :) |
| 18:42.46 | Qwell[] | shmaltz: on what? |
| 18:43.04 | shmaltz | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.10 | Qwell[] | ahh, right |
| 18:43.32 | Qwell[] | shmaltz: thanks |
| 18:44.27 | r0d3nt | iCEBrkr, fedz. |
| 18:45.17 | Qwell[] | So, we need a good Christmas/holiday flamewar |
| 18:49.47 | r0d3nt | iCEBrkr, fedz. |
| 18:49.51 | r0d3nt | http://www.ratman.org/mobilecam/ |
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| 18:53.18 | mrdigital | hey r0d3nt |
| 18:53.19 | mrdigital | ? |
| 18:53.37 | ComputerWarm | hello question is there anyway to set asterisk to receive on one ip address and send with another? |
| 18:55.02 | r0d3nt | mrdigital, hi |
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| 18:55.13 | r0d3nt | ComputerWarm, not really. |
| 18:55.32 | inv_Arp | ComputerWarm: maybe with iptables |
| 18:56.03 | r0d3nt | ok |
| 18:56.06 | r0d3nt | and what about the clients ? |
| 18:56.08 | iDunno | it's christmas - who cares if there is or isn't ;) |
| 18:56.20 | r0d3nt | they aren't smart enough to handle that... |
| 18:56.31 | mrdigital | r0d3nt: i take it the mac mini is yours? |
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| 18:57.27 | mrdigital | brb |
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| 19:04.08 | r0d3nt | yes.. the mac mini is mine... |
| 19:10.15 | ManxPower | DirecPC is driving me craz |
| 19:10.16 | ManxPower | y |
| 19:10.28 | file[laptop] | how crazy? |
| 19:11.25 | ManxPower | file[desk], neither netscape (blank screen) or IE (dns error) work, but imap works and Winamp can stream audio. |
| 19:11.31 | file[laptop] | yikes |
| 19:11.40 | ManxPower | evil fscking proxy |
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| 19:14.31 | mrdigital | damnit my dvd burner isnt working |
| 19:14.34 | mrdigital | just sits and blinks |
| 19:14.52 | mrdigital | anyone have this problem? |
| 19:16.42 | azzie | gotta be asterisk problem indeed |
| 19:17.14 | mrdigital | huh? |
| 19:17.19 | mrdigital | this is my windows pc |
| 19:17.21 | mrdigital | not asterisk |
| 19:17.21 | mrdigital | lol |
| 19:18.14 | ManxPower | file[desk], setting up my own proxy outside of direcpc works fine. |
| 19:18.30 | robl^ | did you Install XP Pro Sp 2 hotfix 10233 Security Patch 82716632?? |
| 19:20.02 | mrdigital | dont know |
| 19:20.13 | mrdigital | it auto updates |
| 19:23.11 | r0d3nt | i think he's joking with you. |
| 19:24.40 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 19:24.42 | tzanger | > I heard that Linux User Groups were a good place to meet chicks? Is this true? |
| 19:24.45 | tzanger | Yes, in the sense that you'll meet the "chicks" you've been having virtual sex with. |
| 19:25.28 | r0d3nt | HAHAHA |
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| 19:28.23 | heroine | heh, no one cares about it but we got an asterix cartoon on tv there :) |
| 19:28.26 | heroine | (sorry) |
| 19:28.34 | heroine | merry christmas :) |
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| 19:33.03 | Nivex | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.08 | Nivex | oops |
| 19:33.13 | Nivex | network came unplugged... sry |
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| 20:07.28 | gnosys | anybody in here? |
| 20:07.38 | NoNeo | any :-) |
| 20:07.43 | gnosys | hey |
| 20:08.55 | gnosys | do you know, off the top of your head, the right way in the dialplan to have many extensions ring when an incoming call comes in? I've tried it with concatenating many SIP lines, and it seems to cause problems that way. I seem to recall that there is a better way, but I'll be darned if I can find it... |
| 20:09.31 | SkramX | gnosys: just do Dial(SIP/Phone1&SIP/Phone2...) |
| 20:09.34 | SkramX | right/ |
| 20:10.29 | gnosys | that's what I've done (concatenating), but I'm trying to ring 18 lines, and doing them all simultaneously seems to be upsetting to *... it complains about some lines not being available, some lines continue to ring after one picks up, etc. |
| 20:11.09 | NoNeo | I have no idea how to set it up properly. |
| 20:11.35 | NoNeo | Thats great, it is possible in the software! |
| 20:11.36 | SkramX | voip-info..org look up hunt groups |
| 20:11.54 | SkramX | i think we did this once for a client.. but I dont think you want to pay for help.. |
| 20:12.06 | SkramX | I remember writing a routine.. lemme go look. |
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| 20:14.59 | gnosys | thanks for mentioning hunt groups SkramX. That's what I was missing... the name of the concept. I'm reading PBX+Hunt+Groups on voip-info.org now, and that is the concept I'm after. |
| 20:15.17 | SkramX | Alright; glad to help |
| 20:16.33 | ManxPower | Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: |
| 20:16.33 | ManxPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.07 | robl^ | HOLY GUACAMOLE!! that's a horrible ping |
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| 20:18.01 | SkramX | shiit, it is. |
| 20:18.12 | trixter | is that holy guacamole a christian holy or is it chanaukah guacamole? |
| 20:19.07 | ManxPower | welcome to my world |
| 20:19.21 | ManxPower | I REALLY have to get that POTS line and modem patched into my router |
| 20:19.46 | trixter | that ping time would suck worse if it was caused by local lan congestion |
| 20:20.01 | Johnnie | Wow. |
| 20:20.16 | Johnnie | You have time to go out to dinner and watch the evening news before you get a reply, ManxPower. |
| 20:20.33 | SkramX | haha |
| 20:20.46 | trixter | manxpower: does that hold up with non icmp? some networks prioritize icmp so low that it means virtually nothing for ping times |
| 20:21.09 | robl^ | ManxPower: if only ya didn't decide to live in a "commune" on the side of a mountain... you could have DSL like most civilized communities. |
| 20:21.33 | trixter | HEY! dont mock those that live on sides of mountains with no one around |
| 20:21.44 | trixter | although I do have dsl here, everything else about that statement applies to me :P |
| 20:22.29 | SkramX | time=0.689 ms <3 |
| 20:22.33 | ManxPower | m......y...... ......s......s.....h.... ..... .... |
| 20:22.36 | SkramX | Okay, its just to my router, but still :) |
| 20:23.05 | ManxPower | There, back to the usual 700ms ping timesa. |
| 20:26.42 | trixter | ManxPower: stop downloading pr0n and your ping times will increase :P |
| 20:32.46 | gnosys | ManxPower: which commune on which mountain? |
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| 20:59.22 | ManxPower | *scream* Why is postgrey not working! |
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| 21:10.40 | rob0 | the reason I chose sqlgrey over postgrey is the BDB 4.x requirement. |
| 21:11.01 | rob0 | maybe yours isn't finding the right BDB library. |
| 21:17.57 | implicit | ok |
| 21:18.12 | implicit | going crazy |
| 21:20.20 | ManxPower | rob0, it was two things 1) permissions problem on the unix socket and 2) wrong order of restrictions options. |
| 21:20.36 | ManxPower | I was allowing auth_destinations before doing the greylist check |
| 21:21.16 | rob0 | ah, that would do it too :) |
| 21:22.22 | ManxPower | Tomorrow I need to upgrade two other servers (they are all MXs for each other) to Postfix 2.1, install postgrey, etc. |
| 21:22.39 | ManxPower | rob0, have you had any problems getting mail from MS Exchange thru the greylist? |
| 21:24.39 | rob0 | not that I am aware. And you said *upgrade* to 2.1? I'm on 2.3-20051223 :) |
| 21:25.06 | ManxPower | rob0, we were on 2.0x |
| 21:26.19 | rob0 | 2.2's quite mature. 2.3=more features but still mostly stable. |
| 21:27.19 | ManxPower | rob0, It's a matter of having mandrake RPMS of 2.2 AND backporting the spec file to Mandrake 9.2 |
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| 21:29.36 | [M]erk | Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it. I'm new to asterisk, could anyone tell me what the t and i extensions are? |
| 21:30.04 | implicit | timeout and invalid respectively |
| 21:30.20 | implicit | you go to t when something times out, and i when that extension doesn't exist in the current context |
| 21:30.27 | [M]erk | Thank you implicit. |
| 21:30.36 | implicit | sure |
| 21:31.05 | implicit | good luck |
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| 21:31.57 | ManxPower | rob0, Any suggestions on throttleing to x connections per y from any one host? |
| 21:32.11 | [M]erk | And when you dial something, does that go to that extension in the current context, or is that only with Background()? |
| 21:32.23 | [M]erk | And when you dial something, does that go to that extension in the current context, or is that only with Background()? |
| 21:32.58 | implicit | depedns on what you are in |
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| 21:33.04 | implicit | if you are just doing Playback() |
| 21:33.11 | implicit | and dtmf is keyed in it won't go anywhere |
| 21:33.15 | implicit | but in Background it will |
| 21:33.33 | implicit | if you are in MeetMe |
| 21:33.38 | implicit | meetme will process dtmf for itself |
| 21:33.52 | implicit | for example when logging into a conf |
| 21:34.18 | implicit | short answer, it's usually only with Background() |
| 21:34.37 | implicit | but Background is just an app for * |
| 21:35.16 | [M]erk | Thanks. |
| 21:35.25 | implicit | or behaves like one at least |
| 21:35.57 | rob0 | ManxPower: anvil(8) which is only available in 2.2+ can do a crude throttling. http://policyd.sourceforge.net/ is probably better, and would also replace postgrey. I think that works with 2.1. |
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| 21:40.33 | rob0 | oh I think sqlgrey also has throttling in the beta/test version. |
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| 21:47.00 | livinded | has voipjet made any recent changes making it not able to pass CID to cellular phones? |
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| 21:47.25 | livinded | all i get is anonymous no matter what i set my CID as |
| 21:49.34 | DannyF | livinded, they are fiddling with stuff |
| 21:50.27 | livinded | where can i sign up for the newsletter i've heard about |
| 21:50.30 | livinded | i can't find it on thei site |
| 21:50.38 | livinded | their* |
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| 21:53.24 | DannyF | hum just a sec |
| 21:53.53 | DannyF | http://voipjet.com/mailman/listinfo/updates_voipjet.com |
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| 22:01.22 | trixter | yeah that came today |
| 22:01.40 | trixter | they either are trying to stave off criticism or really had upgrades in mind :P |
| 22:01.55 | trixter | with *any* company you can never relaly know which it was if nothing was said until after |
| 22:02.34 | ManxPower | Someone should write a patch that does a ping and traceroute to servers listed in (iax|sip)\.conf. Allow people to specify multiple hosts per peer, then have Asterisk firgure out which host is lowest latency. |
| 22:03.06 | trixter | wouldnt it seem better for asterisk to try to register? |
| 22:03.33 | trixter | icmp can have a lower qos than say sip/iax traffic which means that ping/traceroute may seem higher than it really is |
| 22:03.37 | ManxPower | one could have this happen before the register, then use the lowest latency host for regitration and destinations |
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| 22:04.08 | trixter | second, lag time is affected by many things, 1 is the network layer 2 is processing the request. telepacket proved that a couple nights ago where their DB was so lagged that while it was really quick to their servers it was timing out trying to auth |
| 22:04.29 | ManxPower | trixter, I'm pretty sure IAX2 has a ping packet, you can just use that. |
| 22:04.34 | trixter | so a machine that is faster networkwise may be overloaded and thus slower :/ |
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| 22:05.18 | trixter | its not a trivial patch at any rate because you would want to requalify the hosts for a while |
| 22:05.21 | ManxPower | trixter, This would not solve that, but it would solve MANY things |
| 22:05.45 | trixter | and to build a list of potentials and try them may also screw with some providers |
| 22:05.46 | ManxPower | Hell, extend qualify= |
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| 22:06.10 | trixter | take broadvoice for example subsequent registers cause BV to bill per minute even if on the unlimited plan (as per their press release on account sharing) |
| 22:06.45 | trixter | so it can have unintended side effects ... but yeah I do agree that generally speaking it should automatically try to find the best host |
| 22:06.54 | trixter | larger providers generally have multiple proxies to register with |
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| 22:14.31 | trixter | hmm.. what might work better is if the host exceeds a threshold only it tries to find the 'best' at that point only |
| 22:14.55 | trixter | implicitly it exceeds when there is nothing recorded, ie at startup |
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| 22:15.40 | sofh | hello all! |
| 22:15.43 | trixter | I think you are right about extending qualify becuase you would kinda have to have that info ... |
| 22:16.12 | sofh | i'd asterisk with x100P card and few soft phones attach to it.... |
| 22:16.16 | trixter | maybe something like qualify=[yes|no|hunt] |
| 22:16.42 | sofh | on LAN everything is fine..but when ever i try to get it work over Internet...sound quality is very poor...though i've enough bw |
| 22:16.50 | sofh | any idea guys ? |
| 22:17.34 | sofh | i'd tried all codecs ..but its useles..all work fine when my soft phones are on LAN , but when they are on internet , or my asterisk is on interne..its usless then :( |
| 22:19.22 | Nugget | voice over the internet is a crapshoot. |
| 22:20.06 | sofh | though i think there shouldn't be much difference except bw , as both or IPs what ever public or private |
| 22:20.16 | Nugget | that's a nice theory |
| 22:20.17 | sofh | but its working only on private -:( |
| 22:22.52 | sofh | ? |
| 22:23.28 | ManxPower | sofh, Anytime NAT is involved things get complicated. |
| 22:24.18 | sofh | but i am not using NAT at all |
| 22:24.42 | sofh | i'd public IPs , and tried both IAX and SIP..but the qualtiy is same on internet , |
| 22:25.05 | sofh | but on lan it works gr8..and more intersting is that on LAN even its not consuming that much BW |
| 22:25.22 | livinded | i don't have any problems with nat |
| 22:25.36 | livinded | bu ti don't do a lot with asterisk so thats probably why |
| 22:25.53 | sofh | after testing it on lan i switch it to internet to connect my home and office , but its simply not working...i can't understand even a single word |
| 22:27.57 | sofh | :| |
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| 22:29.45 | tzanger | ok that was way more of a job than it should have been |
| 22:29.53 | tzanger | installed a dual 3-way dimmer for the upstairs light |
| 22:29.58 | tzanger | only the wiring was totally odd |
| 22:30.24 | tzanger | live - light - bottom switch, neutral - top switch, then red/white wires between the two |
| 22:30.52 | tzanger | and someone named 'cownips' is a top fan of last.fm's christmas globaltag |
| 22:31.01 | tzanger | and for some strange reason 'cownips' makes me giggle |
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| 22:38.48 | robl^ | cownips? |
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| 22:47.22 | sangee | anyone know what is this issue "Extension '' in context 'defaultjavan' from '' does not exist. Rejecting call on channel 0/23, span 1" |
| 22:47.39 | sangee | please someone help me |
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| 23:03.57 | tzanger | yeah, cownips |
| 23:03.58 | tzanger | heheh |
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| 23:22.05 | [M]erk | Are there any problems with the asterisk apt package? Whenever I try to compile it, it gives me an error saying it cannot find termcap, and I can't find the apt package for it either. |
| 23:22.48 | [M]erk | Disregaurd that last statement, asterisk won't look for the apt package for it, but I was. |
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| 23:28.12 | dudes | voip-info.org |
| 23:28.18 | dudes | serach for debian |
| 23:34.14 | heroine | Han |
| 23:34.19 | heroine | La traitre ! |
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| 23:35.30 | Tecky` | how hard is asterisk to setup and use for a residence ? (is this even something i should look into ? |
| 23:36.56 | Johnnie | Not hard. |
| 23:37.21 | Johnnie | Depends on your approach. |
| 23:37.39 | denon | Tecky`: take a look at Asterisk@Home .. |
| 23:37.48 | denon | it's a very easy setup for a new user to asterisk |
| 23:37.50 | Tecky` | denon: url ? |
| 23:37.53 | denon | google.com |
| 23:37.55 | Tecky` | or just google |
| 23:37.56 | Tecky` | igt |
| 23:42.36 | Tecky` | holon one second |
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| 23:43.43 | Ridgeback | merry christmas! |
| 23:44.03 | Tecky` | so i need to get a card to interface into the pc like a t1 card ? i have verzion telephone service into the household on the box on the side of the house... is this due to replace that or is this in addition to what i already have? i noticed that it takes a 500mhz pc which i have ... but what other hardware.. doesn't go very into detail as to what i need in addtion to that pc |
| 23:44.55 | Ridgeback | anyone here try out the new AES encryption for IAX2? |
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| 23:46.02 | Ridgeback | anyone here try out the new AES encryption for IAX2? |
| 23:48.29 | blitzrage | ~thebook |
| 23:48.31 | jbot | well, thebook is Asterisk: The Future of Telephony, released under the Creative Commons license and available at http://www.asteriskdocs.org << Read the book online! |
| 23:48.38 | blitzrage | Tecky`: check that out |
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| 23:54.27 | conall | Anyone here able to try and debug why my 2 SIP clients keep getting 403 forbidden SIP errors with a basic config? |
| 23:55.06 | tzanger | hey hey hey |
| 23:55.38 | Tecky` | blitzrage: is that the best link possible for someone wanting to try this out. |