| 00:00.23 | Ridgeback | conall: well if your getting 403, then asterisk is sending that to you. atleast you know your online, sounds like an authentication issue... |
| 00:00.51 | dudes | sip is a tricky dick |
| 00:00.57 | Ridgeback | yep |
| 00:01.57 | dudes | 403 are user errors. So, for some reason the required auth isn't getting to the server on the first invite. So a request is sent for the auth (the 403) then you send the required auth and the call proceeds |
| 00:02.27 | dudes | if you're call is just failing with a 403 then you need to make sure your auth is being sent |
| 00:03.03 | dudes | if it goes through, 10 to 1 it's sending the auth after it recieves the 403 and proceeds |
| 00:03.05 | dudes | I think |
| 00:03.58 | conall | Hmmm, my SIP config is simple enough |
| 00:04.12 | conall | I'm trying this entry in sip.conf for X-ten: |
| 00:04.13 | conall | [thog] |
| 00:04.13 | conall | type=friend |
| 00:04.13 | conall | username=thog |
| 00:04.13 | conall | fromuser=thog |
| 00:04.15 | conall | secret=password |
| 00:04.18 | conall | host=dynamic |
| 00:04.20 | conall | canreinvite=no |
| 00:04.23 | conall | context=internal |
| 00:04.28 | dudes | use pastebin.ca |
| 00:04.32 | SkramX | Hiua |
| 00:04.34 | SkramX | *hiya |
| 00:04.44 | Ridgeback | hey SkramX |
| 00:05.07 | dudes | conall - so your call isn't going through. |
| 00:05.11 | Ridgeback | conall: what phone are trying to setup? |
| 00:05.43 | conall | I'm trying to setup X-Lite on OS X initially, before moving onto my 7960... |
| 00:06.24 | Ridgeback | hmmm ive had problem with xlite |
| 00:06.28 | Ridgeback | on my mac as well |
| 00:06.49 | dudes | if your call is failing then xlite isn't config'd correctly. If it's going not failing, then there probably isn't an issue. |
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| 00:08.12 | conall | On the asterisk console, I've setup sip debugging for the X-Lite peer |
| 00:09.02 | conall | I keep seeing "Found user 'thog'" and a few codec lines. Then comes an INVITE from Asterisk before a 403 from X-Lite |
| 00:09.43 | dudes | use pastebin.ca |
| 00:10.03 | dudes | so we can see the invites and possibly give you a better answer |
| 00:10.15 | conall | Give me a sec |
| 00:13.18 | conall | http://pastebin.ca/34881 |
| 00:17.29 | dudes | what's 611 look like |
| 00:17.46 | dudes | and what codec are you using? |
| 00:19.12 | conall | I'm following instructions in Chapter 4 of Asterisk: The Future of Telephony (free eBook version) |
| 00:19.37 | conall | 611 is Echo() |
| 00:19.48 | dudes | and codec? |
| 00:22.04 | conall | disabled all in sip.conf, then enabled gsm, ulaw and ilbc (in that order) |
| 00:22.21 | dudes | and what codec is xlite using? |
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| 00:23.49 | mrdigital | is _DAW here? |
| 00:24.17 | conall | dudes: I can't tell which one, but g711u, g711a, gsm and iLBC are all enabled |
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| 00:25.43 | sangee | anyone know what is the following issue " Extension '' in context 'defaultjavan' from '0525337296' does not exist. Rejecting call on channel 0/23, span 3"? |
| 00:26.17 | dudes | you don't have 0525337296 in defaultjavan on span 3 |
| 00:26.17 | sangee | Asterisk is not accepting the incoming call from T1 line |
| 00:26.39 | sangee | how to make that? |
| 00:26.42 | dudes | conall - are you behind NAT? |
| 00:26.53 | dudes | umm, edit extensions |
| 00:26.56 | conall | dudes: Nope, I've a /26 from my ISP |
| 00:27.22 | sangee | i put the following |
| 00:27.22 | sangee | [defaultjavan] |
| 00:27.22 | sangee | exten => _.,1,Wait(1) |
| 00:27.22 | sangee | exten => _.,2,Dial(Sip/32214167360905@209.123.46.27,60,r) |
| 00:27.23 | sangee | exten => _.,3,Hangup |
| 00:27.34 | sangee | what wrong with this? |
| 00:27.35 | dudes | conall - k, try adding allow=all in general in sip.conf |
| 00:27.43 | dudes | and you need _X., |
| 00:27.57 | dudes | and use pastebin.ca instead of pasting into channel |
| 00:29.21 | dudes | and you have in, internal, exten => 611,1,Echo |
| 00:29.24 | conall | dudes: Hmmm, same 403 issue. Do I need to manually load each codec? I had a few issues with modules which I fixed by trial and error |
| 00:30.05 | dudes | you could try setting canreinvite=yes ... |
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| 00:30.28 | sangee | i put the _X still i got samething |
| 00:30.30 | dudes | and then sip reload (or restart *) not sure if sip reload works in 1.0..9 |
| 00:30.42 | dudes | then try _X,1, |
| 00:30.48 | sangee | ok |
| 00:31.29 | sangee | same issue |
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| 00:33.08 | dudes | did you reload extensions? |
| 00:33.40 | sangee | yes |
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| 00:34.56 | conall | dudes: I think enabling canreinvite has had an effect. See debug log at http://pastebin.ca/34882 |
| 00:35.38 | dudes | looks the same to me |
| 00:37.26 | sangee | any idea what was the issue? |
| 00:37.45 | dudes | I have to get working on my own stuff, so goodluck to ya. |
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| 00:38.12 | conall | To my untrained eye, I'm seeing an INVITE from X-Ten, which wasn't happenning before |
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| 00:43.09 | warthog | I am attempting to modify the voicemail app to include high priority voicemail, anyone tried this before? |
| 00:45.36 | SkramX | not yet.. |
| 00:45.45 | SkramX | warthog: what did you modify...? the C code? |
| 00:46.00 | SkramX | I thought there was priority voicemail options alread.. |
| 00:46.03 | SkramX | *already.. |
| 00:46.05 | warthog | I was hoping to find some people who were willing to take part. so far I have managed to add a extra digit to be parsed by the dmtf listener while the voicemail message is playing, it dumps me back to macro-vm where I was planning to use record to get a copy of a message that I would know the name of and then act upon. |
| 00:47.01 | warthog | skarmx, I cannot find it, I read through all the app_voicemail code from 1.2.1 and it only allows 0 for operator and * for app_voicemailman. |
| 00:47.18 | SkramX | I havent done such yes.. |
| 00:47.37 | warthog | are you interested in colabing on this? |
| 00:47.41 | Tecky` | someone who knows how to setup asterisk@home mind pm'ing me. I have some questions to ask |
| 00:47.45 | SkramX | you may want to open up a feature request or bounty (if you are willing to pay for the functionality) |
| 00:48.00 | SkramX | Tecky`: the how-to is pretty straight forward.. any specific questions? |
| 00:48.16 | warthog | I am interested in developing it myself at this point, with help from anyone who is interested in helping me, but I need to get it working by jan1.06 |
| 00:48.17 | SkramX | I have never use AAH, but have installed asterisk many many times |
| 00:48.26 | SkramX | warthog: hmm |
| 00:48.39 | SkramX | contact me.. I may be able to help.. I am not a big C coder however |
| 00:48.45 | Tecky` | SkramX: I have verizon at home right now, specificly what card or cards should i look at for this machine -- to transform my home phone system into a asterisk@home system (with voicemail and music on hold etc...) |
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| 00:49.01 | warthog | so far I have the dmtf '8' being captured and dumping me back to macro-vm |
| 00:49.08 | SkramX | well, you need an FXO/FXS card? |
| 00:49.29 | SkramX | warthog: okay.. so is that after they record? |
| 00:49.32 | Tecky` | SkramX: i dont know what i need ... i guess thats part of my problem =\ |
| 00:49.44 | SkramX | Tecky`: you have a POTS line? |
| 00:49.51 | Tecky` | i have a normal phone system into the box on the outside of the house |
| 00:49.56 | Tecky` | i presume its a pots line |
| 00:50.05 | SkramX | okay |
| 00:50.06 | Tecky` | its not a digital line |
| 00:50.12 | SkramX | and you want that to be routed to asterisk? |
| 00:50.14 | Tecky` | normal phone system |
| 00:50.15 | Luhiwu | hello all, i'm having deadlocks with chan_h323, anyone can help? or should i wait for JerJer? |
| 00:50.16 | warthog | I use extension p for pager, no prior to them recording, the intro message would say press 8 for a high priority, then dump them out of app_voicemail and then let you do what ever you need, such as record |
| 00:50.37 | SkramX | and pick up the phone on IP=phones |
| 00:50.43 | SkramX | warthog: oh, okay.. hmm. |
| 00:50.58 | SkramX | so now just have it record the message, in a macro/agi and email your pager :) |
| 00:51.00 | Tecky` | SkramX: hrm ... presumibly |
| 00:51.32 | SkramX | Tecky`: i dont do much physical stuff, so go look up the definitions of fxo vs fxs card :) |
| 00:51.41 | Tecky` | ight |
| 00:51.45 | jake1932 | Tecky`: easiest way might be to pick up a SIPURA SPA-3000 |
| 00:52.04 | Tecky` | jake1932: good site to buy one from ? |
| 00:52.08 | Tecky` | or just off google ? |
| 00:52.14 | jake1932 | Tecky`: i'd google it |
| 00:52.20 | jake1932 | Tecky`: froogle it :) |
| 00:52.21 | warthog | I was going to record the message and try and dump it in the voicemail box myself, but I would know the file name, put an entry in mysql db just for this, then have a perl daemon monitor this file and call a numeric pager every 20 min until the voicemail is picked up. |
| 00:53.02 | SkramX | hmm.. okay |
| 00:53.02 | Tecky` | i did |
| 00:53.02 | Tecky` | i did, $96 |
| 00:53.03 | jake1932 | Tecky`: sounds about right |
| 00:53.21 | jake1932 | Tecky`: that'll give you 1 jack for your phones and 1 jack for your phone line |
| 00:53.26 | SkramX | im taking off |
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| 00:53.43 | SkramX | warthog: ill think about it bro.. i dont have any physical IP phones.. so i have no use in developing this so far. |
| 00:53.46 | SkramX | I have some idea |
| 00:53.47 | SkramX | s |
| 00:53.54 | SkramX | email mark@mark-s.net if you need me-- peace |
| 00:54.22 | warthog | scramx, it could do any kind of paging, email, etc, it is the 20 minute reminder that is the core function. |
| 00:54.38 | SkramX | warthog: cron job |
| 00:54.44 | SkramX | peace, late.. shalom :) |
| 00:55.18 | warthog | yeah, I just need the name of the file flagged as high priority, that is why I need to do all this extra stuff cause app_voicemail will not do that for me as far as I can tell. |
| 00:55.57 | Tecky` | jake1932: pm |
| 00:56.20 | jake1932 | Tecky`: pm? |
| 00:56.32 | Tecky` | private mesg |
| 00:56.41 | jake1932 | Tecky`: i'd rather stick in the channel |
| 00:56.59 | Tecky` | jake1932: sounds like you know what your talking about ... is this something hard to setup for a residence ? |
| 00:57.28 | jake1932 | Tecky`: not really once you understand asterisk |
| 00:57.37 | jake1932 | Tecky`: @home may get a bit confusing though |
| 00:57.46 | jake1932 | Tecky`: are you familiar with any linux distro? |
| 00:57.51 | Tecky` | i'm at a x-mass party so i cant read the book online |
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| 00:58.05 | Tecky` | jake1932: been using slackware since 1993 |
| 00:58.32 | jake1932 | Tecky`: might be better to install plain old asterisk for slackware and check the docs |
| 00:58.44 | jake1932 | Tecky`: you'll need to edit sip.conf and extensions.conf |
| 00:58.49 | Tecky` | right |
| 00:59.21 | jake1932 | Tecky`: sip.conf will be where you add your SPA-3000 and extensions.conf will be where the logic is plcaed for dialing, voicemail, etc. |
| 01:00.00 | Tecky` | but i just wanted to know how the complexity of switching from what i have (normal phone line to a house) to a asterisk system which is very interesting and something that i have been looking at for some time recently |
| 01:00.58 | jake1932 | Tecky`: most difficult part is understanding the dialplan (extensions.conf) and sip.conf. Once you get that, it should be pretty straightfoward |
| 01:01.15 | jake1932 | Tecky`: if you haven't checked it out alreday, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/ |
| 01:01.45 | Tecky` | I understand how voip works |
| 01:02.02 | jake1932 | Tecky`: :) it's much more than that |
| 01:02.17 | Tecky` | i'm just concerened that moving from a residential phone system to a asterisk system is going to be too complex / problematic |
| 01:02.19 | jake1932 | Tecky`: that site is full of tips on how to get your setup working |
| 01:02.27 | Tecky` | but from whateveryone says it's pretty easy |
| 01:02.54 | jake1932 | Tecky`: most likely, the biggest problem will be echo (if you have a problem at all) |
| 01:03.30 | Tecky` | whats the echo from ? |
| 01:03.37 | Tecky` | the move from regular line to digital ? |
| 01:03.43 | jake1932 | Tecky`: yes |
| 01:03.47 | jake1932 | and back |
| 01:03.47 | *** part/#asterisk mrtwister (n=andrius@cable-10-68.cgates.lt) |
| 01:04.03 | jake1932 | here's an example you'll probably want to check out: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Linux+Slackware |
| 01:05.19 | jake1932 | Tecky`: but you may not experience it. I could not get rid of it, so I ended up going to voip termination providers with IP phones. My setup works very well now (and I save lots of money each month) :) |
| 01:05.51 | mrdigital | ever see a person with tiny eyes? |
| 01:06.00 | mrdigital | im watching exorcism of emily rose |
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| 01:06.16 | mrdigital | this actor's eyes are so small it looks like hes possessed in real life |
| 01:07.08 | warthog | anyone here interested in colabing on a voicemail highpriority paging application? |
| 01:07.38 | jake1932 | Tecky`: however, i've heard many people that never experience echo at all with the SPA-3000 |
| 01:09.29 | mrdigital | warthog: sure pm |
| 01:09.48 | warthog | anyone here good enough at c to explain exactly how record received command line input with this line of code: static int record_exec(struct ast_channel *chan, void *data) I am having trouble decoding it. |
| 01:10.53 | Nivex | Those are pointers. You have to dereference them. so it would be chan->foo where foo is some element of the struct |
| 01:11.12 | warthog | mrdigital, I have modified voicemail.so to permit dmtf 8 during wecome message to dump you back to macro-vm extention p, now I need to get a record of a voicemail and get a paging daemon in place. |
| 01:12.31 | warthog | nivex, thanks, In app_record I cannot find a stucture of chan, or is that just ast_channel that is the structure of the pointer *chan and I presume a second pointer *data? |
| 01:13.14 | warthog | mrdigital, will pm soon. |
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| 01:21.35 | warthog | nivex, you still there, had another question about the elements of the struct |
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| 01:35.59 | Qwellj2me | christmas is boring.. |
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| 01:37.35 | smirl | anyone know a SIMPLE server for linux? |
| 01:38.21 | Nugget | what is "SIMPLE"? |
| 01:38.59 | smirl | it's like an extension for SIP that tracks when SIP users are online, and provides their status |
| 01:39.01 | Qwellj2me | ive been meaning to find out too |
| 01:39.05 | smirl | so you can see if they are on the phone |
| 01:39.27 | smirl | i see alot of voip phones support it, but i've searched 100 times on google and can't find a server |
| 01:39.41 | smirl | server software* |
| 01:40.16 | Qwellj2me | use asterisk? |
| 01:40.32 | Qwellj2me | just hints? |
| 01:41.40 | smirl | alot of digital phone system users are used to having DSS/BLF (Direct Station Select / Busy Lamp Field), a button on their phone, programmed to another user's extension #, that can be pressed to call the person, or transfer calls the person, and the button lights up when the other extension is on the phone, or blinks when they have a call holding or are in DND mode. |
| 01:42.18 | Nugget | damn the man for naming a protocol after a generic word that's impossible to google for. :) |
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| 01:42.37 | Qwellj2me | sounds like hints |
| 01:42.51 | smirl | what is hints? |
| 01:43.28 | smirl | i know that presence uses the SIP commands for NOTIFY and SUBSCRIBE to get info, and EyeBeam supports this as a Peer-To-Peer mode |
| 01:43.34 | Qwellj2me | what you described |
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| 01:43.58 | smirl | but with Peer-To-Peer, the phones are all querying eachother, and network usage would be insane on a large system |
| 01:44.15 | smirl | so a Presence Agent would be better |
| 01:44.17 | Qwellj2me | check the wiki |
| 01:44.21 | smirl | ok |
| 01:44.39 | Qwellj2me | hints rock |
| 01:46.14 | smirl | ok, i see in the wiki there is a command line for 'show hints' |
| 01:46.25 | smirl | but how would i make use of this on a phone? |
| 01:46.55 | Qwellj2me | it gets added to the dialplan |
| 01:47.15 | smirl | could you point me to an example? |
| 01:47.58 | Qwellj2me | if i had a keyboard..heh |
| 01:48.08 | smirl | you're working on a tablet too huh |
| 01:48.36 | Qwellj2me | im on a cell, sorry |
| 01:48.50 | smirl | ah ok |
| 01:48.51 | Druken | issues.... |
| 01:48.57 | Druken | irc over a cell... |
| 01:49.05 | Qwellj2me | tablet..i wish |
| 01:49.50 | Qwellj2me | on christmas even |
| 01:50.05 | smirl | dude, i bought an ultra cheap Fujitsu tablet on Ebay for $150, it's a 233Mhz Pentium with 32 Meg ram, win98... It sounds shitty, but I installed Microsoft Remote Desktop Client, and I'm logged into terminal services on my highspeed windows server |
| 01:50.15 | smirl | i don't even notice i'm on a crappy tablet |
| 01:50.24 | Qwellj2me | gotta lovd it |
| 01:50.52 | smirl | i put a WiFi card in the tablet... |
| 01:51.11 | smirl | there's no keyboard at all, like the newer tablet pc's |
| 01:51.19 | smirl | but it's got a USB port... |
| 01:51.21 | red22 | http://www.2n.cz |
| 01:52.11 | Qwellj2me | i need to get the cable to use this as a modem |
| 01:53.26 | Druken | i may buy an air card in january |
| 01:53.42 | Qwellj2me | ? |
| 01:53.52 | Druken | 100 bux a month, give me unlimited internet use |
| 01:54.07 | Druken | Qwellj2me: laptop cell internet card |
| 01:54.11 | Qwellj2me | ugh |
| 01:54.28 | Qwellj2me | way too much |
| 01:54.52 | Druken | would give me internet while i'm driving around all day... |
| 01:55.00 | Qwellj2me | i wont even pay 60 |
| 01:55.06 | Druken | and if it's fast enough, i may get voip over it too |
| 01:55.23 | Druken | then i could kick my cellphone |
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| 01:56.44 | Qwellj2me | that is true, but youd need to bring the laptop everywhere |
| 01:56.44 | Druken | have my laptop provide nat to an ata in the van or something, and use a nice looking portable phone hehehe |
| 01:57.32 | Druken | Qwellj2me: i'm a courier... so i take the van with me everywhere... my laptop could have it's own docking station in it.. hehehe |
| 01:57.44 | Qwellj2me | wifi? heh |
| 01:57.56 | Druken | could do that too |
| 01:58.16 | Druken | too bad ya can't jump stations with wifi... |
| 01:58.38 | Druken | i'd get the cabs in the area to throw wifi ap's in their cars |
| 01:58.56 | Qwellj2me | gps, have the ap always point to you |
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| 02:00.03 | warthog | I am trying to determine when you "Record(${CALLERIDNUM}ivrrecording:wav)" how those command line vars are received by app_record, is it in void *data? been looking at the code too long and not getting very far..... |
| 02:00.41 | Qwellj2me | yes, data |
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| 02:01.25 | Qwellj2me | it gets parsed out |
| 02:02.26 | warthog | how does c know to do that since there is a *chan in front of *data, is it related to the void in front of *data (please excuse my c ignorance here) |
| 02:03.08 | Qwellj2me | it just does |
| 02:03.17 | warthog | thanks |
| 02:04.31 | Qwellj2me | yay traffic |
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| 02:04.39 | warthog | hmm, if I had looked a bit closer, "if (ast_strlen_zero(data)) { /* no data implies no filename or anything is present */" would have made it obvious that data was where it was going...... |
| 02:04.49 | mrdigital | Druken: get a PDA with a Wifi Card and X-Lite... voila VOIP then have it register to your * system |
| 02:04.55 | rob0 | I just read the Wiki page and am not sure how to use MixMonitor from the CLI. Say I want to monitor a call on Zap/1 ... ? |
| 02:05.22 | Qwellj2me | yeah..maybe |
| 02:05.41 | rob0 | I don't want to routinely record all calls, just want to activate it as needed. |
| 02:06.33 | warthog | qwellj2m2, are you familiar with app_voicemail.c, I am trying to modify it to allow for highpriority voicemail |
| 02:07.12 | Corydon76-home | Heh, high priority voicemail? |
| 02:07.27 | Qwellj2me | some, i can help you when i get home |
| 02:07.49 | rob0 | USPS Express Voicemail, when it has to get there overnight. |
| 02:08.11 | Corydon76-home | Oh, not FedEx Custom Critical? ;-) |
| 02:08.17 | Qwellj2me | corydon, heh, i was looking at a map today |
| 02:08.34 | rob0 | USPS Priority Voicemail, 2-day delivery guarantee (which is not honored.) |
| 02:08.41 | Corydon76-home | Wow, a map... those are so like, futuristic, or something |
| 02:08.45 | Qwellj2me | corydon dr |
| 02:09.41 | Qwellj2me | and, its all about yesterday mail |
| 02:10.13 | rob0 | Highpriority voicemail: you get the message before the caller thinks to call you. |
| 02:11.01 | Corydon76-home | In Soviet Russia, voicemail calls YOU |
| 02:11.26 | warthog | cool, so far I have added a dtmf "8" to voicemail.c that drops me out to macro-vm, the NEW "p" for pager extension. Then I want to go back into voicemail with no welcome message, passing a high priority flag to voicemail this time so I can get the filename pumped into a database, then I was planning to have a perl daemon monitor the database and page a range of people until it is picked up. |
| 02:11.45 | Qwellj2me | silly /.er |
| 02:12.08 | warthog | unless of course you have a better idea. |
| 02:12.14 | Corydon76-home | warthog: oh, I wrote something like that for a customer |
| 02:12.25 | Corydon76-home | Doesn't need any changes to app_voicemail |
| 02:12.38 | Corydon76-home | Just set up a special extension that is monitored by a Perl script |
| 02:12.39 | gergn | is the performance really that notable in the business edition of asterisk? |
| 02:12.43 | Corydon76-home | Or better yet, a cron tab |
| 02:12.57 | Qwellj2me | i want to break vm out to the dialplan |
| 02:13.06 | Corydon76-home | gergn: you don't buy ABE for performance reasons |
| 02:13.20 | Corydon76-home | gergn: you buy ABE for peace of mind |
| 02:13.35 | gergn | what problems does it give piece of mind to? |
| 02:13.43 | Corydon76-home | The blame game |
| 02:13.48 | warthog | carydon76., does each user have 2 extensions then, one for normal, one for high? |
| 02:14.16 | Corydon76-home | Not two extensions, but two mailboxes, for each person who needs high priority callback |
| 02:14.38 | Corydon76-home | Or more specifically, you have one high priority mailbox for each department |
| 02:15.02 | warthog | how does the user access the alternative mailbox when they dialin and press * |
| 02:15.04 | Corydon76-home | and then everybody in that department gets paged round-robin until the voicemail is no longer in the INBOX folder |
| 02:15.26 | Corydon76-home | It's a different mailbox... a common mailbox |
| 02:16.19 | Corydon76-home | We went one step above paging people... |
| 02:16.37 | warthog | everyone on my co needs a high priority, I need to allow the caller to choose if the message is normal or not, then if it is high, they callee gets paged, if they do not answer, then their backup gets paged in 20 min. |
| 02:16.44 | Corydon76-home | The system calls each person's cell phone, round robin and puts them directly in that voicemailmain account |
| 02:17.48 | Corydon76-home | So you do that before you still the caller into voicemail |
| 02:17.54 | Corydon76-home | s/still/stick/ |
| 02:18.11 | Corydon76-home | What's wrong with your IVR capabilities? |
| 02:18.16 | Qwellj2me | i need beer... |
| 02:18.43 | warthog | the voicemail welcome asks if it is high priority prior to leaving the voicemail |
| 02:18.52 | Corydon76-home | Exactly |
| 02:18.59 | Corydon76-home | and you can do that, in the dialplan |
| 02:19.23 | Corydon76-home | What I'm saying is, you can deploy this now, without changing app_voicemail one bit |
| 02:19.31 | Corydon76-home | which means you can deploy very quickly |
| 02:20.46 | warthog | I see what you mean, but then I need each user to have two voicemail accounts to check, one high and one normal if I interpret you correctly, my boss will not like that. |
| 02:20.48 | Corydon76-home | and without worrying if your changes introduced a bug into the application |
| 02:21.14 | Corydon76-home | See, that's the thing about voicemail that calls YOU |
| 02:21.30 | Katty | hi lads. |
| 02:21.31 | Corydon76-home | You never need to check it... it calls YOU when there's voicemail to be had |
| 02:21.51 | Corydon76-home | Hiya, Katty |
| 02:22.07 | Qwellj2me | hi laddy |
| 02:22.29 | Qwellj2me | or something |
| 02:22.37 | warthog | I see your point. I have to duplicate existing functionality to get approval on this, I like your method, but my boss will not go for it. |
| 02:22.37 | Katty | i'm a lass. |
| 02:22.45 | Katty | also a lady. |
| 02:22.47 | Corydon76-home | Or a lady |
| 02:23.13 | Qwellj2me | whichever |
| 02:23.44 | Corydon76-home | warthog: if your boss can get it tomorrow, instead of waiting two weeks, that might mean he'll go for it |
| 02:24.02 | Qwellj2me | ugh, bbl |
| 02:24.34 | warthog | I am willing to do the work and the debugging |
| 02:24.40 | rob0 | any nosy folks here who can explain MixMonitor use in the CLI? |
| 02:25.31 | Corydon76-home | I'd go for specifying the priority as an argument to voicemail... as in, P(1) or P(2) or P(3)... with the default as P(0) |
| 02:25.55 | Corydon76-home | Then just store it in the voicemail msg file as priority=3 |
| 02:26.02 | Katty | http://pastebin.com/478840 <- my lovely evening. |
| 02:26.09 | Katty | ^- my reply being line 4 |
| 02:26.20 | Corydon76-home | And then you can define values as whatever you want |
| 02:26.28 | Katty | she's 16, and i'm 21. |
| 02:26.39 | warthog | hmmm, sounds good, then I parse for a priorty and track it in cron, I will check into that asap. |
| 02:27.09 | shmaltz | katty, whats that for? |
| 02:27.26 | Katty | shmaltz: just amusement. |
| 02:27.38 | warthog | I did not know you could specify priority like that, looking at app_voicemail to see about that now. |
| 02:27.38 | Katty | shmaltz: some chick sent me a message...and when i replied...she went postal. |
| 02:27.39 | shmaltz | sounds like wer really need some docs on ladies :P |
| 02:27.47 | Corydon76-home | Katty: heh, got hit on by someone underage... |
| 02:27.52 | shmaltz | Katty, arn't you female? |
| 02:27.58 | Katty | shmaltz: yep. |
| 02:28.13 | shmaltz | Katty, you gay? |
| 02:28.14 | Katty | Corydon76-home: yeah, but they get all pissed off when you say you're not interested cause they're underage. |
| 02:28.22 | Katty | shmaltz: males are gay, dear. |
| 02:28.27 | Katty | shmaltz: i'm bi. |
| 02:28.33 | Corydon76-home | Katty: try pointing out that it's illegal |
| 02:28.37 | shmaltz | Katty, use a dictionary b4 you reply |
| 02:28.44 | shmaltz | gay can be used on females as well |
| 02:28.55 | Katty | shmaltz: run along and play. |
| 02:29.00 | shmaltz | Katty, that means you have done group sex before? |
| 02:29.03 | warthog | here I just thought it meant happy!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:29.04 | rob0 | haha |
| 02:29.05 | Katty | shmaltz: when you grow up, you won't always want the last word. |
| 02:29.49 | Corydon76-home | wtf does group sex have to do with sexual orientation? |
| 02:29.54 | Katty | it's ok. males never really grow up. |
| 02:29.59 | Katty | Corydon76-home: i haven't the slightest idea. |
| 02:30.00 | shmaltz | Happy Cannukah SkramX |
| 02:30.06 | SkramX | Cannukah? |
| 02:30.21 | Corydon76-home | Happy Christmahannakwaanzakah |
| 02:30.21 | tzanger | sounds like a canadian holiday |
| 02:30.22 | Katty | Nugget: did you and the misses make something lovely today? |
| 02:30.26 | dudes | men don't grow up and women can't keep their legs closed ... |
| 02:30.34 | shmaltz | Corydon76, if one is bi, then they are more likely to have group sex |
| 02:30.39 | Nugget | we're in dallas visiting her family. |
| 02:30.41 | Katty | dudes: and sadly, you can't keep yourmouth shut. |
| 02:30.44 | Nugget | ate food, opened presents, the usual. |
| 02:30.51 | Katty | Nugget: sounds lovely (= |
| 02:30.52 | Corydon76-home | shmaltz: no, they aren't |
| 02:30.56 | dudes | it's the truth ... |
| 02:31.01 | Katty | Nugget: hopefully someday i'll get the same. |
| 02:31.11 | Katty | dudes: i have no problem keeping my legs closed. |
| 02:31.17 | dudes | ok |
| 02:31.37 | shmaltz | Corydon76, it's in the Cencsus |
| 02:31.44 | tzanger | what an odd conversation |
| 02:31.45 | dudes | so then, some men can grow up and some women can keep their legs closed ... |
| 02:31.56 | Corydon76-home | dudes: she does have a problem with keeping her penis shearing scissors in her belt with misogenists around, however... |
| 02:32.18 | warthog | corydon76, I don't see anywhere where you can specify priority in a voicemail, how do you do this? |
| 02:32.31 | Corydon76-home | warthog: I was suggesting a plan of action |
| 02:32.38 | dudes | I think it's a valid point, since it isn't true that all women can't keep their legs closed ... vice, not all men are immature pricks |
| 02:32.38 | rob0 | just YELL when you leave the message ;) |
| 02:32.39 | *** join/#asterisk Johnnie (n=jdlewis@unaffiliated/jdlewis) |
| 02:32.42 | *** join/#asterisk _DAW (n=_DAW@adsl-156-94-42.msy.bellsouth.net) |
| 02:33.12 | *** join/#asterisk riddlebox (n=james@24-171-11-166.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 02:33.14 | Katty | dudes: not all of them...i give you that. |
| 02:33.21 | dudes | =) |
| 02:33.24 | shmaltz | anyhow, this converstaion is stupid, but I find it interesting that we have a lady that would punch down a 66 block |
| 02:33.39 | Nugget | along the spectrum of personal failings, being an immature prick is a lot worse than being promiscuous. imho, at least. |
| 02:33.42 | Corydon76-home | As opposed to a 110 block? |
| 02:33.42 | shmaltz | would you Katty? |
| 02:34.02 | shmaltz | Corydon76, nope, but Asterisk only implies phones :P |
| 02:34.15 | tzanger | hatty loves me |
| 02:34.18 | tzanger | er katty |
| 02:34.24 | tzanger | where the hell did that h come from? |
| 02:34.44 | warthog | corydon, I see priority in the msg0xxx.txt, how do you affect change on that attribute? |
| 02:34.56 | Corydon76-home | You do? |
| 02:35.10 | rob0 | tzanger: I sritched kegtops |
| 02:35.17 | shmaltz | Katty, you know what a 66 block is? |
| 02:35.21 | tzanger | eww |
| 02:35.23 | tzanger | 66 blocks suck |
| 02:35.31 | shmaltz | tzanger, not for phones |
| 02:35.33 | tzanger | makes me feel like I'm in the 60s |
| 02:35.35 | shmaltz | cat 3 |
| 02:35.37 | tzanger | shmaltz: no way |
| 02:35.41 | tzanger | BIX is the one true way |
| 02:35.44 | Nugget | I'm so old that 110 blocks are the "scary new stuff" to me. |
| 02:35.46 | shmaltz | whats BIX? |
| 02:35.49 | shmaltz | ~bix |
| 02:35.52 | tzanger | very close to 110 |
| 02:35.53 | Nugget | I'm a type 66 geek. |
| 02:35.58 | Corydon76-home | warthog: that's priority, as in context|extension|priority |
| 02:36.08 | Katty | shmaltz: i don't feel like talking about that. |
| 02:36.20 | *** part/#asterisk bhickey (n=chatzill@83.141.92.177) |
| 02:36.32 | shmaltz | wow, Katty, you rather talk about your group sex? |
| 02:36.45 | warthog | [message] |
| 02:36.45 | warthog | origmailbox=203 |
| 02:36.45 | warthog | context=macro-vm |
| 02:36.46 | warthog | macrocontext=from-internal |
| 02:36.46 | warthog | exten=s-BUSY |
| 02:36.46 | warthog | priority=1 |
| 02:36.48 | warthog | callerchan=SIP/233-1015 |
| 02:36.50 | warthog | callerid="Ed Flynn" <233> |
| 02:36.50 | Katty | shmaltz: i don't have sex. |
| 02:36.52 | warthog | origdate=Fri Dec 23 02:58:34 PM AST 2005 |
| 02:36.54 | warthog | origtime=1135364314 |
| 02:36.56 | warthog | category= |
| 02:36.58 | warthog | duration=4 |
| 02:36.59 | Corydon76-home | Nugget: how many times do you see network cable punched down to block 66, though? |
| 02:37.05 | tzanger | http://www.nrgcommunication.com/phones-systems/image.php?productid=16298 |
| 02:37.08 | shmaltz | warthog, stop fludding |
| 02:37.08 | tzanger | tha'ts a bix block |
| 02:37.19 | Nugget | Corydon76-home: all the time, back when cat3 was state of the art. |
| 02:37.25 | Corydon76-home | Heh |
| 02:37.36 | Katty | mrdigital: did you want something? |
| 02:37.44 | shmaltz | tzanger, is that cat3 only or cat5 as well? |
| 02:37.48 | Corydon76-home | I've never seen network punched to 66 block until I did it for a breakout panel |
| 02:37.49 | warthog | corydon, see what I mean by priority=1 |
| 02:37.52 | tzanger | shmaltz: cat5 too |
| 02:37.55 | shmaltz | tzanger, how many across? |
| 02:37.57 | tzanger | in fact all my cat5e is terminated to it |
| 02:38.00 | tzanger | shmaltz: 25 pair |
| 02:38.02 | shmaltz | 25 pair? |
| 02:38.08 | Corydon76-home | warthog: so pick another word |
| 02:38.09 | shmaltz | tzanger, I used to work with it |
| 02:38.28 | Corydon76-home | highpriority=3, for example |
| 02:38.29 | shmaltz | tzanger, it's cleaner for the 25pair cable, but not cleaner than an amphenol |
| 02:38.58 | tzanger | shmaltz: actually there is BIX with D50 on the back |
| 02:38.59 | warthog | corydon, what I mean is how does asterisk make use of priority=1 in that file, what causes it to be different |
| 02:39.04 | tzanger | and BIX with RJ11 and BIX with RJ45 |
| 02:39.14 | shmaltz | nice |
| 02:39.16 | Corydon76-home | warthog: I don't think Asterisk makes any use of it |
| 02:39.23 | warthog | cool |
| 02:39.25 | Corydon76-home | Other than writing it out |
| 02:39.32 | shmaltz | BIX, will last longer than any other one |
| 02:39.45 | shmaltz | and way longer then regulare punch down blocks |
| 02:40.54 | warthog | corydon, I just looked at all my voicemail txt files, some are priority=1 some are =2. hmmmmm |
| 02:41.02 | ariel_ | evening folks |
| 02:41.12 | Corydon76-home | warthog: yeah, and? |
| 02:41.42 | Corydon76-home | warthog: mine are all 22... because voicemail was entered at priority 22... |
| 02:41.59 | warthog | which means that asterisk must use it for something and I should know that that is prior to me screwing with it. |
| 02:42.00 | Corydon76-home | warthog: dialplan priority |
| 02:42.01 | riddlebox | when you use a voip provider, what do you put into your [incoming] context? |
| 02:42.23 | Corydon76-home | warthog: dialplan context, dialplan extension, dialplan priority |
| 02:42.59 | ariel_ | riddlebox, you put in the info in how you want to route the call |
| 02:44.35 | riddlebox | ariel_: I just dont know what I am doing wrong, I have been reading for so long but I am missing something |
| 02:45.04 | ariel_ | riddlebox, what are you trying to do? how are you routing the call? |
| 02:45.16 | warthog | ok, I get it, then If I send a voicemail from priority 3, I can track that, I finally get what you mean. Light goes on. This will save me tons of work. I already have the 8 for high priority working, so If I then launch them back into voicemail from priority 3, I will know already who left a message and did press 8 for high priority, this is great. Thanks for making that connection for me. |
| 02:45.19 | mrdigital | Katty: just to say hi? |
| 02:45.38 | shmaltz | tzanger, you from canada? |
| 02:45.52 | shmaltz | ok, thats why you use BIX |
| 02:45.58 | Katty | mrdigital: k'then. hi. |
| 02:46.00 | shmaltz | it's very popular in canada |
| 02:46.01 | riddlebox | ariel_: I just want it to ring one extension, a sip phone |
| 02:46.08 | ariel_ | Katty, hello |
| 02:46.17 | Katty | ariel_: hey you! |
| 02:46.20 | Katty | ariel_: how's the family? |
| 02:46.45 | ariel_ | fine just got back from xmas dinner at Mom's. I just love her dinners. |
| 02:47.02 | Katty | did you eat too much? ;) |
| 02:47.35 | tzanger | shmaltz: indeed I am |
| 02:47.36 | ariel_ | sure did |
| 02:47.54 | sangee | anyone know how to write a dialpeer when carrier send empty DID? |
| 02:48.03 | ariel_ | riddlebox, you can do this [incoming] exten => s,1,dial(sip/100,20) |
| 02:48.05 | shmaltz | tzagner, yeah, thats waht /whois told me after I asked, so I guees thats why you use bix |
| 02:48.36 | *** part/#asterisk warthog (n=nvadekar@66.55.112.240.ppp.northrock.bm) |
| 02:48.41 | sangee | put s that should handle the empty DID? |
| 02:49.04 | riddlebox | ariel_: I have that, but it doesnt come in |
| 02:49.08 | ariel_ | sangee, if asterisk does not match on did's it will start on an s, |
| 02:49.22 | shmaltz | sangee, or put _X. |
| 02:49.23 | ariel_ | riddlebox, what error are you getting on the cli |
| 02:49.29 | riddlebox | nothing |
| 02:49.38 | shmaltz | sangee, sorry _X. wont work use s |
| 02:50.17 | ariel_ | riddlebox, what type of calls? sip, iax2? |
| 02:50.17 | sangee | i did but i am getting the following error " Extension '' in context 'defaultjavan' from '' does not exist. Rejecting call on channel 0/23, span 2" |
| 02:50.44 | riddlebox | ariel_:sip, from broadvoice, and I am using a xlite phone |
| 02:50.54 | *** part/#asterisk red22 (n=mrgv@92sdl30m5.codetel.net.do) |
| 02:51.10 | ariel_ | riddlebox, do sip debug then make the call into the system and see what it says then |
| 02:51.49 | ariel_ | sangee, how is your s extens setup |
| 02:52.16 | sangee | exten => s,1,Answer |
| 02:52.16 | sangee | exten => s,2,NoOp(${DNID}) |
| 02:52.16 | sangee | exten => s,3,NoOp(${CALLERIDNUM}) |
| 02:52.16 | sangee | exten => s,4,NoOp(${CALLERID}) |
| 02:52.16 | sangee | exten => s,5,Dial(Sip/32214167360905@209.123.46.27,60,r) |
| 02:52.17 | sangee | exten => s,6,Hangup |
| 02:53.10 | Katty | ariel_: excellent. |
| 02:54.06 | ariel_ | Katty, what did you do? did you eat too much food???? well at least my baby girl got lots of things. Wife is now trying to so some singing with her new Kareokee...argh |
| 02:54.07 | riddlebox | ariel_:chan_sip.c:9661 handle_response_register: Outbound Registration: Expiry for sip.broadvoice.com is 30 sec (Scheduling reregistration in 23 s) |
| 02:54.07 | riddlebox | Destroying call '707a77c15577cce93e019b8f3325bf9b@127.0.0.1' |
| 02:54.30 | Katty | ariel_: my parents don't celebrate christmas...so i've just been sitting around all day doing nothing. |
| 02:54.40 | Katty | ariel_: i made stir fry for dinner, that's about it. |
| 02:54.49 | ariel_ | wow |
| 02:55.40 | Katty | hopefully someday i'll have a family and be able to celebrate (= |
| 02:55.42 | inv_Arp | ariel_: yo yo yo |
| 02:56.04 | Katty | ariel_: yay! |
| 02:56.05 | mrdigital | Katty: how come no family? |
| 02:56.06 | ariel_ | inv_Arp, hello |
| 02:56.12 | Katty | mrdigital: i am not married. |
| 02:56.27 | riddlebox | ariel_:do you have any ideas? |
| 02:56.35 | inv_Arp | ariel_: rolling out 1.2.x for yer clients yet? |
| 02:56.36 | mrdigital | Katty: why not get married? |
| 02:56.37 | ariel_ | riddlebox, I need more then that use pastebin and paste more of what your getting when you make the call |
| 02:56.47 | Katty | mrdigital: i don't want to get married yet. |
| 02:57.10 | ariel_ | inv_Arp, only at 2 locations so far. Most of others are working fine with 1.0.9 and I don't upgrade unless there are problems |
| 02:57.28 | ariel_ | Katty, you don't have to get married to have a family... |
| 02:57.31 | Nugget | I don't plan to marry again. |
| 02:58.33 | Katty | ariel_: what do you mean? |
| 02:58.41 | Corydon76-home | True enough, I have a husband, and we're not married |
| 02:58.59 | ariel_ | Nugget, I don't either. been married for over 22 years now and don't plan on ever changing her. |
| 02:59.34 | Katty | file: mew |
| 02:59.50 | file | meep! |
| 02:59.59 | riddlebox | ariel_:http://pastebin.com/478854 |
| 03:00.32 | Katty | file: don't put that in your mouth! |
| 03:00.38 | Katty | file: you don't know where nugget has been. |
| 03:01.12 | smirl | anyone else using app_conference instead of meetme, that might now how i can make the system play the music-on-hold if somebody is the only person in a conference room ? |
| 03:01.26 | file | Katty: true |
| 03:03.34 | ariel_ | riddlebox, what codec's are you trying to use with broadvoice? |
| 03:04.54 | riddlebox | i am not sure |
| 03:05.12 | riddlebox | i said allow all |
| 03:05.22 | ManxPower | riddlebox, NEVER SAY ALLOW ALL |
| 03:05.27 | xachen | i can'teven get app_conference to compileinto asterisk .2 |
| 03:06.02 | ManxPower | riddlebox, read this http://www.sineapps.com/print.php?rssid=807 |
| 03:06.51 | tzanger | yeah I'm tired too |
| 03:07.05 | ariel_ | riddlebox, ok lets get you working with just one. allow=ulaw disallow=all |
| 03:07.21 | ariel_ | ManxPower, hello hope all is well |
| 03:07.25 | ManxPower | I wish we would stop having Michigan Halloween weather in December in alabama |
| 03:07.53 | ManxPower | ariel_, The weather here is rather icky, but it won't last. |
| 03:08.18 | ManxPower | I just keep telling myself "It'll be 10 degrees cooler in summer than New Orleans!" |
| 03:08.33 | ariel_ | ManxPower, we are suppose to get a cold front in but it's only suppose to go down about 10 degrees |
| 03:08.41 | Katty | https://mail.google.com/mail/help/images/yule6.swf :> |
| 03:09.11 | ManxPower | thanks, katty |
| 03:09.12 | ariel_ | Katty, nice |
| 03:10.22 | Katty | mm, 82F |
| 03:10.24 | tzanger | I have a beautiful wood stove I can't use :-( |
| 03:10.32 | Katty | tzanger: :< |
| 03:10.41 | ariel_ | ~weather ktmb |
| 03:10.53 | Corydon76-home | tzanger: ooo, a Franklin stove? |
| 03:11.02 | tzanger | Corydon76-home: no idea. :-) |
| 03:11.11 | rob0 | <--- figured out my MixMonitor answer :) |
| 03:11.27 | Jugie | ~weather YYOW |
| 03:11.34 | Corydon76-home | Ben Franklin invented the idea of a wood stove that sits out away from the wall, with a pipe for the smoke |
| 03:11.44 | smirl | ~weather KPWM |
| 03:11.47 | tzanger | yes that's what I have then |
| 03:11.49 | Jugie | ~weather CYYT |
| 03:11.59 | tzanger | although that's always the type of wood stove I've seen |
| 03:12.05 | Corydon76-home | My father used to make pankakes on top of ours |
| 03:12.30 | Corydon76-home | tzanger: double doors on the front? |
| 03:12.36 | tzanger | no single door |
| 03:12.57 | Corydon76-home | Does the pipe come out the back or the top? |
| 03:12.58 | smirl | ~weather KMWN |
| 03:13.28 | rob0 | *CLI> help MixMonitor ... mixmonitor <start|stop> <chan_name> [<args>] |
| 03:13.29 | ariel_ | smirl, wow can't even see a mile way |
| 03:13.35 | ariel_ | way/away |
| 03:13.39 | riddlebox | ariel_:I did that and now it says no acceptable codecs when I try to call out |
| 03:14.19 | ariel_ | your making the call out not inbound? do you have in the sip context canreinvite=no |
| 03:14.32 | Nugget | ~metar kaus |
| 03:15.00 | ManxPower | There's nothing wrong with playing with your bot, but you should do it in private and wash your hands after. |
| 03:15.08 | smirl | winds calm, visibility 10 miles, skys clear, temp 6, dewpoint -2, airpressure 30.02 |
| 03:15.13 | riddlebox | ariel_:I have it setup that way |
| 03:15.30 | riddlebox | ariel_:I cannot recieve a call either, it just hangs up on me |
| 03:16.10 | smirl | te slecht dat |
| 03:16.21 | ariel_ | riddlebox, ok I would think that your settings for the bv accout is not correct then |
| 03:16.32 | smirl | uw naam maakt me denken u is een heet kuiken en ik zou geslacht met willen hebben |
| 03:16.57 | riddlebox | ariel_:in sip show peers it says ok |
| 03:18.04 | smirl | le vostre marche nome me penso che siate un pulcino caldo e vorre avervi sesso con |
| 03:18.05 | ariel_ | bv is not a very easy service to setup. In fact it's kinda hard |
| 03:18.34 | riddlebox | ariel_:I also have a question about what do I put in the context, in sip.conf for BV incoming or outgoing? or internal? |
| 03:18.39 | ariel_ | smirl, I only know 3 different languages and none of them is what your speaking |
| 03:18.53 | smirl | wh47 £4n9µ493$ Ð0 ¥0µ kn0w? |
| 03:19.07 | riddlebox | ariel I can paste my extensions.conf and sip.conf if you want? |
| 03:19.10 | Katty | ariel_: wind is howling :< |
| 03:19.13 | ManxPower | looks to be a germanic language |
| 03:19.27 | smirl | £0£ M4nxP0w3r 17'$ n07 93rm4n, 17'$ £337! |
| 03:19.57 | ariel_ | riddlebox, sure |
| 03:20.06 | ariel_ | just remove the passwords |
| 03:20.15 | riddlebox | of course |
| 03:20.23 | smirl | ariel_ what other languages do you know ? |
| 03:20.34 | ariel_ | riddlebox, you be supprise to see how many don't remove them |
| 03:20.42 | riddlebox | lol |
| 03:20.45 | ariel_ | smirl, English, Spanish and Tagalog |
| 03:21.01 | Katty | ariel_: or kat. |
| 03:21.03 | smirl | soy una pequeña muchacha bonita |
| 03:21.12 | docelmo | trixter you alive? |
| 03:21.17 | ariel_ | ahh a small pretty girl are we? |
| 03:21.22 | smirl | sí |
| 03:21.28 | *** join/#asterisk benjk (n=benjamin@f8a01-0357.din.or.jp) |
| 03:21.33 | smirl | y tengo un pene enorme |
| 03:21.36 | Katty | i named a kitty bonita once. |
| 03:21.45 | rob0 | uno burrito y dos tacos, gracias |
| 03:21.48 | *** join/#asterisk steff_ (n=steff@80.125.254.220) |
| 03:21.49 | Katty | she was a bombay. |
| 03:22.03 | smirl | mis pantalones se llenan de queso |
| 03:22.22 | ariel_ | hehe cheeze.... |
| 03:23.45 | smirl | http://pastebin.ca/34886 |
| 03:23.50 | smirl | i'm russ purintong |
| 03:23.53 | smirl | i purinton* |
| 03:23.56 | smirl | i wrote that script |
| 03:23.59 | smirl | for mirc |
| 03:25.25 | smirl | http://www.di.fm |
| 03:25.35 | Nivex | di.fm 4tw :) |
| 03:25.40 | Katty | mirc :< |
| 03:26.12 | ariel_ | argh ear plugs are not working... |
| 03:26.17 | ManxPower | Rockin' Regge Roots |
| 03:26.50 | *** join/#asterisk Fubster (i=fubster@jax.metawire.org) |
| 03:27.50 | riddlebox | ariel_:http://pastebin.com/478875 |
| 03:27.53 | tzanger | ok The Cell was kind of cool |
| 03:27.57 | tzanger | a little fucked up but cool |
| 03:28.14 | Nugget | they made a second one, but I hear it sucks |
| 03:28.33 | tzanger | hmm |
| 03:29.07 | *** join/#asterisk bkw_ (n=bkw_@ppp-70-243-94-102.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net) |
| 03:29.23 | smirl | how many people got damned ebay gift certificates for christmas? |
| 03:29.31 | smirl | i swear everyone in my family gave eachother one |
| 03:29.45 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 03:29.52 | Nugget | oh, wait, no, I'm thinking of "cube" |
| 03:29.57 | Nugget | ignore me. :) |
| 03:30.00 | Nivex | smirl: it's the only thing you don't have to return the next day |
| 03:30.01 | *** join/#asterisk bkw__ (n=brian@ppp-70-243-94-102.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net) |
| 03:30.17 | Nugget | can you sell ebay gift certificates on ebay? |
| 03:30.22 | smirl | nope |
| 03:30.33 | smirl | you aren't allowed to transfer ownership |
| 03:30.55 | Nivex | it's not like they check ID. |
| 03:31.19 | Nivex | I've re-given gift certs. |
| 03:31.51 | smirl | Quote: "Resale of eBay Gift Certificates is prohibited. You may be requried to verify your identiy using a creditcard. |
| 03:33.07 | Nivex | ah, eBay specific certs. never mind. |
| 03:33.52 | tzanger | http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2005/db051218.gif |
| 03:33.52 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 03:33.56 | smirl | i'm such a cheap bastard, i'll probably buy a sip phone with my gift certificate, so i can resell the phone next time i sell a system |
| 03:34.32 | Nugget | heh |
| 03:34.58 | tzanger | hahah "Can god make a milkshake so thick that he himself cannot drink through a straw?" |
| 03:35.52 | Nugget | man, I could go for a milkshake right now. |
| 03:36.06 | smirl | mmmm... milkshdroooooool.... |
| 03:36.08 | Nugget | I wish I was at home, I'd make one. |
| 03:36.22 | *** part/#asterisk Merk (n=[M]erk@pcp0011022842pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) |
| 03:36.28 | tzanger | You'd make a milkshake so thick that god himself couldn't drink it through a straw? |
| 03:36.32 | tzanger | I think those are called "Ice Cream" |
| 03:36.57 | smirl | i could do it, because THERE IS NO GOD! |
| 03:37.15 | smirl | therefore he can't drink anything |
| 03:37.43 | tzanger | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.51 | tzanger | you're not supposed to subvert questions like that |
| 03:37.52 | tzanger | :-) |
| 03:38.16 | smirl | sorry |
| 03:38.19 | smirl | i'll just ban myself |
| 03:38.22 | tzanger | haha |
| 03:38.47 | tzanger | http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/compare/compare.asp?comPage=catprodlist&page=0&catid=23519&sort=0&logon=&langid=EN |
| 03:38.50 | tzanger | help me decide |
| 03:38.58 | tzanger | is the extra $100 worth a flat tube and the shadow mask? |
| 03:39.18 | Corydon76-home | No, you want this: http://www.passionshop.com/Mens-Elephant-Pouch-Lingerie.html |
| 03:40.00 | tzanger | I don't want to know why you had that link handy |
| 03:40.10 | newmember | tzanger: dont hink I would ever by a flat screen tv these days |
| 03:40.28 | Corydon76-home | tzanger: I'm considering getting a pair |
| 03:40.29 | tzanger | no? |
| 03:40.40 | Corydon76-home | tzanger: I just don't know when I'd have the chance to wear it... |
| 03:40.52 | smirl | holloween ? |
| 03:40.59 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 03:41.05 | tzanger | that'd definitely scare the kids |
| 03:41.19 | tzanger | newmember: why not? |
| 03:41.28 | Corydon76-home | Wait until you see the talking snake version |
| 03:41.33 | smirl | when i told the folks i was dressing up as an elephant for holloween, they never expected this! |
| 03:41.59 | Corydon76-home | http://www.passionshop.com/Party-Animals-Talking-Underwear-Sly-Snake-tlc-1476-7.html |
| 03:42.00 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 03:45.02 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (i=_TK_D-Fe@St-Jovite-ppp46043.qc.sympatico.ca) |
| 03:46.44 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm WAY outa ways in the Laurentians with the GF's aunts for my 4th Cristmas party the weekend.... |
| 03:47.01 | [TK]D-Fender | On dialup and just got them hooked up on my * server :) Free chat :D |
| 03:48.09 | [TK]D-Fender | ...zippy! |
| 03:48.50 | file | lol |
| 03:49.01 | file | that there dialup is rockin' |
| 03:50.22 | tzanger | http://content.ytmnd.com/content/1/d/1de6d6bb75a6c1a46b10e7e055be9a93.wav |
| 03:50.24 | tzanger | what song is that?! |
| 03:51.16 | joelsolanki | hi all |
| 03:51.28 | riddlebox | ariel_:have you had a chance to look at the pastebin? |
| 03:51.30 | *** join/#asterisk bmg505 (n=leon@dsl-146-38-59.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 03:52.01 | mishehu | bah. |
| 03:52.08 | mishehu | Katty: sounds painful |
| 03:52.17 | *** join/#asterisk fu (n=fu@pool-68-163-247-19.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 03:52.23 | mishehu | dial up is like performing a self-lobotomy ;-) |
| 03:52.43 | Katty | yay, mishehu! |
| 03:52.57 | Nivex | my parents are unfortunately stuck with it :( |
| 03:53.11 | [TK]D-Fender | I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy :D |
| 03:53.19 | tzanger | I don't mind dialup at all so long as it's only for ssh |
| 03:53.32 | tzanger | ooh found some good music |
| 03:53.33 | Nivex | ssh is too laggy on dialup |
| 03:53.33 | [TK]D-Fender | ...and IRC |
| 03:54.03 | tzanger | well I irc from ssh/screen :-) |
| 03:54.31 | Fubster | which is the best method of irc-ing, IMO |
| 03:54.35 | mishehu | Katty: what, if anything, do you celebrate? |
| 03:54.41 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger : Whats the point? Perpetual single connection? |
| 03:54.59 | Katty | mishehu: yule. |
| 03:55.03 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: no, just having the history there, being able to hit it from anywhere without fucking around iwth irc clients, etc. |
| 03:55.15 | tzanger | katty celebrates good times and good friends |
| 03:55.21 | Katty | mishehu: also, way to not hug me )= |
| 03:55.27 | mishehu | Katty: then Yule have had a good time, no? |
| 03:55.28 | sangee | i am setup digium card in japan? do i need any special setup for ISND in japan? |
| 03:55.31 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger : I suppose. I'm just a little stuck on being able to mouse around and open links locally and whatnot... |
| 03:55.37 | Katty | mishehu: in theory. |
| 03:55.40 | tzanger | I still do that |
| 03:55.54 | mishehu | Katty: did it turn out to not be the case? |
| 03:56.13 | tzanger | I knew I knew this song... Chicane - Saltwater |
| 03:56.16 | Katty | mishehu: i'm spending my weekend with two JWs. |
| 03:56.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Guess I'm still too much of a Linux newb to know the real ins and outs of it all. |
| 03:56.28 | Katty | mishehu: well, one i guess. |
| 03:56.37 | [TK]D-Fender | JWs? |
| 03:56.39 | mishehu | Katty: two JWs ? |
| 03:56.53 | mishehu | Jee Willikers ? |
| 03:56.55 | Corydon76-home | Two JWs walk into a bar... |
| 03:57.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Johnny Walker? |
| 03:57.08 | mishehu | that too |
| 03:57.11 | Katty | mishehu: but no, it's not been a weekend filled with the usual christmasy things people have |
| 03:57.11 | Corydon76-home | ...ouch! |
| 03:57.22 | Katty | Jehovah Witnesses. |
| 03:57.36 | Katty | my mother particularly |
| 03:57.36 | tzanger | I like "Two guys walk into a bar... you'd have thought the second guy would have seen it" |
| 03:57.46 | mishehu | Katty: <obligatory>"I didn't see any accident"</obligatory> |
| 03:58.10 | Katty | mishehu: that went over my head, dear. |
| 03:58.11 | Corydon76-home | Ah, yes, one of the other religions that likes to pretend that child molesters don't exist... |
| 03:58.21 | mishehu | Katty: I'm not sure what christmasy things there are besides handing out the freshly purchased commerce that was obtained in the previous weeks. ;-) |
| 03:58.27 | Katty | Corydon76-home: indeed. |
| 03:58.30 | Fubster | so i got up asterisk: the future of telephony, and i'm gonna read up on it. hopefully i'll be able to master it |
| 03:58.36 | Fubster | wheee, technology |
| 03:58.45 | Corydon76-home | That worked out so well for the Catholics |
| 03:58.50 | Katty | mishehu: it's my belief that this time of the year there should be hugs. |
| 03:58.51 | mishehu | Corydon76-home: seems like there are many out there no? |
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| 03:58.58 | [TK]D-Fender | alrighty.. I guess this concludes my broadcast day. Merry x-mas all, and I'll be around later... |
| 03:59.04 | mishehu | Katty: and JW's don't give hugs? |
| 03:59.17 | Corydon76-home | mishehu: nah, some religions stone you to death on first suspicion |
| 03:59.26 | Katty | mishehu: what makes you say that? |
| 03:59.39 | Katty | bye fender. |
| 03:59.40 | mishehu | Corydon76-home: probably more that deny it exists |
| 04:00.05 | Corydon76-home | mishehu: dunno, I gave up on organized religion a long time ago |
| 04:00.07 | mishehu | Katty: well you didn't sound like you were completely happy, so I suspected you might not have gotten your RDA of hugs. |
| 04:00.32 | Katty | mishehu: i haven't had any hugs in weeks. |
| 04:00.42 | mishehu | Katty: why not? |
| 04:00.51 | Katty | mishehu: there's no one to give me hugs. |
| 04:01.32 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, me too |
| 04:01.32 | Katty | Real(tm) |
| 04:01.48 | Corydon76-home | That's the nice thing about having a husband... I get at least one a day... |
| 04:02.15 | Katty | mishehu: byebye. |
| 04:02.40 | mishehu | Katty: and a happy festivus to the rest of us... candles just burnt out for me, so time to head on home. |
| 04:02.42 | Katty | Corydon76-home: i hope to have one too, someday :> |
| 04:02.52 | Corydon76-home | Katty: not a wife? |
| 04:02.57 | mishehu | maybe both? |
| 04:03.01 | Katty | Corydon76-home: nah. |
| 04:03.02 | mishehu | that'd be fun for the husband |
| 04:03.08 | mishehu | chuckles even |
| 04:03.15 | *** join/#asterisk DrJolo (n=chatzill@217.153.194.10) |
| 04:03.17 | mishehu | anyway, I'm out |
| 04:03.17 | Katty | mishehu: i imagine i'll have a female playmate too |
| 04:03.25 | Katty | mishehu: but that's another story (= |
| 04:03.25 | Corydon76-home | The husband would prefer that I don't also have a wife... |
| 04:04.10 | benjk | happy boxing day everyone |
| 04:04.49 | tzanger | yeah I was a husband... that's probably the #1 thing I miss |
| 04:05.10 | Corydon76-home | What, your daily hug? |
| 04:05.37 | Nugget | hugs are nice. |
| 04:05.42 | SkramX | 212.16.38.6 im back... everyone calm down :) |
| 04:05.44 | SkramX | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.47 | SkramX | oops |
| 04:05.49 | Nugget | :) |
| 04:05.51 | Katty | Nugget: so are you (= |
| 04:05.52 | SkramX | wrong place :) |
| 04:05.58 | Corydon76-home | Okay, a couple daily hugs, then... ;-) |
| 04:06.01 | *** join/#asterisk DrJolo (n=chatzill@217.153.194.10) |
| 04:06.09 | Katty | Corydon76-home: more like a dozen. |
| 04:06.20 | Katty | Corydon76-home: and and a 9hr one later one (= |
| 04:06.25 | Corydon76-home | Katty: most of mine last longer than a second... |
| 04:06.29 | loud | mark, conf ? |
| 04:06.37 | tzanger | Corydon76-home: no, not quite like that |
| 04:06.43 | tzanger | just phyiscal contact |
| 04:06.53 | tzanger | and that "connected" feeling |
| 04:06.57 | Corydon76-home | They usually last until he pokes me in the ribs, because I won't let go... |
| 04:07.37 | joelsolanki | hi all. i have implemented iptables firewall on asterisk machine. i went through this link http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+firewall+rules and allowed 5060 udp port but now voice calls are one way. i can hear the voice of opposite person. but he cant listen my voice. if i make off the firewall and we can hear each other. |
| 04:07.42 | joelsolanki | is there any other port to allow ? |
| 04:08.03 | tzanger | joelsolanki: yes |
| 04:08.08 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, UDP 10000-20000 |
| 04:08.08 | tzanger | udp/10000-20000 |
| 04:08.10 | benjk | joel: you need to open the RPT ports also |
| 04:08.15 | Corydon76-home | or RTP |
| 04:08.17 | tzanger | UDP/5060 is just the signaling |
| 04:08.19 | tzanger | not the media streams |
| 04:08.20 | joelsolanki | oh... |
| 04:08.37 | joelsolanki | ok let me try to open 10000-20000 and test :) thanks |
| 04:08.40 | Katty | tzanger: my snuggly friend is coming to visit for new years :>> |
| 04:08.46 | tzanger | nice |
| 04:08.51 | Katty | very ^_^ |
| 04:08.53 | SkramX | trixter: sixtel is yet to respond.. eh, its XMas, but still |
| 04:08.54 | SkramX | shiiit |
| 04:08.56 | Nugget | yay snuggly |
| 04:09.02 | tzanger | sixtel is teh suck |
| 04:09.06 | tzanger | stay away from them |
| 04:09.14 | Katty | Nugget: i'm sorta hoping to turn him into more. |
| 04:09.24 | Katty | Nugget: but i'm going to wait until midnight ;) |
| 04:09.27 | Nugget | heh |
| 04:09.42 | Corydon76-home | Katty: isn't that when he turns back into a pumpkin? |
| 04:09.44 | benjk | joel, you can control the range by editing /etc/asterisl/rtp.conf |
| 04:09.59 | Katty | Corydon76-home: nah. |
| 04:10.04 | *** join/#asterisk stkn_ (i=nobody@gentoo/developer/pdpc.active.stkn) |
| 04:10.08 | Katty | Corydon76-home: but his hair is goregous when it's blowing in the wind. |
| 04:10.11 | tzanger | pete yorn - strange condition... awesome osng |
| 04:10.41 | TheCops | tzanger why they suck ? |
| 04:10.50 | Corydon76-home | Katty: oh, long hair, like mine? |
| 04:10.54 | tzanger | TheCops: they're just crooked and their support never works |
| 04:11.09 | Katty | Corydon76-home: his is a little past shoulder length. |
| 04:11.15 | tzanger | business associate of mine lost a big 800 termination agreement due to them |
| 04:11.21 | tzanger | they promise the world and then fail to deliver |
| 04:11.23 | Katty | Corydon76-home: and he has a wee bit of indian blood in him too (= |
| 04:11.28 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, mine is, too... a "little" |
| 04:11.40 | tzanger | if you mention paying them they respond immediately to email/im... otherwise it's dead air |
| 04:11.44 | Corydon76-home | indian, as in next to Pakistan? |
| 04:11.49 | Katty | Corydon76-home: no |
| 04:11.53 | Katty | Corydon76-home: as in native american |
| 04:11.59 | TheCops | tzanger, yeah true, but the price and the self-serv is nice |
| 04:12.02 | Corydon76-home | Katty: which one? |
| 04:12.16 | TheCops | tzanger, but yes, there's no support.. |
| 04:12.16 | TheCops | hehe |
| 04:12.32 | Corydon76-home | Cherokee? Apache? Sioux? |
| 04:12.42 | Katty | i don't know |
| 04:12.44 | Katty | i never asked. |
| 04:13.22 | Katty | shawnee |
| 04:13.29 | tzanger | death cab for cutie... I like these guys |
| 04:13.47 | Corydon76-home | Ah... |
| 04:13.59 | TheCops | tzanger, what's the ISP you are using ? |
| 04:14.07 | tzanger | ikano |
| 04:14.13 | tzanger | ircing from neutral though |
| 04:15.14 | TheCops | tzanger, and your VoIP Provider ? |
| 04:16.11 | tzanger | nufone and unlimitel |
| 04:16.24 | TheCops | All turkey provider I guess |
| 04:16.44 | tzanger | all-turkey? No I don't swap providers for eating holidays |
| 04:17.30 | TheCops | lol |
| 04:17.31 | *** join/#asterisk genmud (n=genmud@ip68-98-82-206.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:19.27 | benjk | if you're catholic you ought to have carp on Xmas though, not turkey |
| 04:19.53 | tzanger | I'm not Catholic |
| 04:19.55 | benjk | I never understood why fish don't count as animals though |
| 04:20.12 | tzanger | because they breathe water |
| 04:20.25 | tzanger | and are generally tasty when breadded |
| 04:20.37 | benjk | sure, I am just saying that its not turkey everywhere and for everyone |
| 04:20.54 | mrdigital | hey benjk |
| 04:21.34 | TheCops | tzanger you live in ottawa ? |
| 04:21.53 | tzanger | no, closer to Kitcher/Waterloo |
| 04:22.11 | benjk | tzanger, I didn't know that tasty is a criteria for being animal or not :) |
| 04:22.20 | tzanger | benjk: :-) |
| 04:22.23 | TheCops | tzanger, do you use unlimitel for voIP Colo ? |
| 04:22.26 | riddlebox | is this telling me, that my authentication to broadvoice is wrong? |
| 04:22.28 | riddlebox | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.35 | Katty | voIP cola! |
| 04:22.36 | tzanger | I don't colo with anyone for voip |
| 04:22.40 | tzanger | well not technically |
| 04:22.44 | tzanger | I have my own server at 151 front for that |
| 04:23.36 | benjk | riddlebox: it looks like you are sending the wrong URI |
| 04:24.06 | riddlebox | ohh I think I know what I am doing wrong |
| 04:24.15 | benjk | if this is supposed to be an invite to a provider, then its unlikely they will be at a NAT address |
| 04:24.39 | benjk | it should be something like <sip:fred@flintstones.org> |
| 04:24.41 | riddlebox | benjk:I am trying to call out on my broadvoice account |
| 04:24.43 | TheCops | tzanger, I searching a place to put a server who have a good backbone of internet and PRI who can supply 450 DID |
| 04:24.48 | TheCops | very hard to find |
| 04:25.12 | tzanger | 450 = where? |
| 04:25.18 | benjk | where fred would be your user id with the provider |
| 04:25.19 | tzanger | we need the bot to tell us this stuff |
| 04:25.23 | tzanger | (450)? |
| 04:25.23 | tzanger | heh |
| 04:25.28 | tzanger | ~450 |
| 04:25.29 | benjk | and there flintstones.org is the provider |
| 04:25.55 | TheCops | lol |
| 04:26.01 | benjk | tzanger, I guess it's easier to look it up on the net |
| 04:26.28 | TheCops | tzanger, 450 from Valleyfield, Quebec |
| 04:26.32 | benjk | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=area+code+450&btnG=Google+Search |
| 04:26.35 | TheCops | 1h00 from montreal |
| 04:26.48 | riddlebox | benjk:I am trying to setup broadvoice to work with asterisk so I can recieve and make calls through it |
| 04:27.00 | tzanger | ah |
| 04:27.10 | tzanger | TheCops: I was up in Chibougamau last week |
| 04:27.11 | TheCops | benjk, http://members.dandy.net/~czg/lca_index.php own |
| 04:27.29 | TheCops | This is not around Valleyfield, tzanger, this is at a couple of hours |
| 04:27.30 | tzanger | yes czg rox yer sox |
| 04:27.32 | benjk | riddlebox: in that case flintstones.org would likely be broadvoice.com or whateveer their domain is |
| 04:27.35 | tzanger | TheCops: I know :-) |
| 04:28.18 | TheCops | tzanger, maybe you heard about "regata" |
| 04:28.24 | TheCops | some high speed boat |
| 04:28.42 | benjk | shouldn't that be "regatta" then |
| 04:29.00 | TheCops | yeah :P |
| 04:29.01 | TheCops | hehe |
| 04:29.03 | TheCops | I'm french |
| 04:29.21 | tzanger | I'm definitely not, but I manage |
| 04:29.22 | Katty | nini |
| 04:29.32 | TheCops | ok |
| 04:30.27 | tzanger | ooh bon jovi in these arms has a wicked chord progression |
| 04:30.43 | benjk | TheCops: mais le mot est d'origine italien |
| 04:31.01 | TheCops | benjk, ha oui ? |
| 04:31.04 | TheCops | regate ?! :P |
| 04:33.23 | SkramX | Ohoi Gozaimus |
| 04:33.30 | SkramX | shit, i suck at romanji! |
| 04:33.41 | *** join/#asterisk azrishahril (n=azrishah@60.48.75.8) |
| 04:36.14 | *** join/#asterisk trig_hm (i=jason@home.monkeypr0n.org) |
| 04:36.53 | riddlebox | benjk:wouldnt that be taken care of by the sip.conf? I have what bv says to put into sip.conf? |
| 04:37.04 | benjk | TheCops: "regatta" -> venetien; "regata" -> italien |
| 04:37.25 | TheCops | benjk, I know this is a high speed boat thats all |
| 04:37.28 | benjk | riddlebox: sip.conf is only for the signaling |
| 04:37.45 | benjk | rtp.conf is for the payload (audio, video) |
| 04:37.59 | riddlebox | benjk:http://www.broadvoice.com/support_install_asterisk.html |
| 04:38.02 | *** join/#asterisk genmud (n=genmud@ip68-98-82-206.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:39.24 | benjk | riddlebox: I don't use BV, but if you do a SIP invite to a provider, then you need to identify yourself with your SIP URI that identifies you to that provider |
| 04:39.30 | benjk | think of it like email |
| 04:39.56 | benjk | if you login to some IMAP or POP server then you have to say you are fred@mailprovider.com |
| 04:40.11 | *** join/#asterisk wasim (n=wasim@pdpc/supporter/active/wasim) |
| 04:40.30 | benjk | if you log in to mailprovider.com's IMAP or POP server saying that you are fred@192.168.0.3, they won't be able to recognise you |
| 04:40.35 | benjk | same for SIP invites |
| 04:41.08 | riddlebox | did you look at that url I pasted? |
| 04:41.16 | benjk | no |
| 04:41.41 | benjk | as I said I don't use BV |
| 04:41.51 | benjk | but I know a thing or two about SIP |
| 04:43.02 | mrdigital | why do people coonect there TiVo to their * Box? |
| 04:43.21 | joelsolanki | what is this FAILED |
| 04:43.34 | joelsolanki | what is this FAILED in asterisk csv cdrs ? |
| 04:43.59 | benjk | joel, it means the call did not go through |
| 04:44.03 | riddlebox | benjk:that url shows how to use bv with asterisk |
| 04:44.24 | benjk | I suppose it does, but I don't use BV, so I can |
| 04:44.32 | benjk | t tell you if it is good or not |
| 04:44.36 | joelsolanki | oh ok |
| 04:44.39 | riddlebox | mrdigital:I want to connect my myth box to my * so I can record shows from the phone |
| 04:44.50 | *** join/#asterisk trig_hm (i=jason@home.monkeypr0n.org) |
| 04:44.54 | benjk | I think you probably need to set externip and localnet in your sip.conf |
| 04:45.26 | riddlebox | I can look into it, extenip should be the sip.broadvoice.com? |
| 04:45.44 | benjk | no, *your* external IP address |
| 04:45.57 | benjk | the global IP address of your NAT router |
| 04:46.12 | benjk | not the 192.168.... |
| 04:49.39 | benjk | riddlebox: I wouldn't use the sample config from BV |
| 04:49.55 | benjk | its typical |
| 04:50.08 | benjk | providers always put up nonsene sample configs |
| 04:50.27 | benjk | the only ones who seem to know Asterisk well enough not to do this are NuFone |
| 04:50.40 | benjk | all other providers put up crap samples |
| 04:51.01 | SkramX | asterlink == check plus |
| 04:51.28 | riddlebox | benjk:so I should put my address of my cable modem there? |
| 04:51.29 | benjk | they want you to put the outbound dial statements into [default] |
| 04:51.34 | benjk | I wouldn;t do that |
| 04:51.38 | riddlebox | I didnt |
| 04:51.50 | azrishahril | anyone care to debug core.xxxx files ? |
| 04:52.18 | benjk | because if you make some mistake some place and somebody can as a rsult connect to your box unprovileged, they can use your BV account to make calls |
| 04:52.24 | benjk | ok |
| 04:52.56 | *** join/#asterisk xtr (n=01928375@S0106000c41ed11e1.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 04:53.18 | benjk | anyway, if you do a SIP debug on all the traffic between your * box and BV, you should not have any local 192.168 addresses in there |
| 04:54.27 | benjk | SIP messages between yourself and BV should only contain your BV SIP URI and your global IP address, but not any local address |
| 04:55.16 | riddlebox | benjk:this is what I get when trying to make a call now: |
| 04:55.17 | riddlebox | WARNING[5966]: chan_sip.c:9527 handle_response_invite: Forbidden - wrong password on authentication for INVITE to '"523" <sip:523@24.171.11.166>;tag=as29ca0873' |
| 04:55.51 | benjk | yes, because they expect you to identify yourself as <sip:your-user-id-at-BV@broadvoice.com> |
| 04:56.25 | benjk | or as <sip:your-user-id-at-BV@sip.broadvoice.com> |
| 04:56.55 | riddlebox | then my configs have to be wrong, it is supposed to take care of that |
| 04:56.56 | benjk | the contact field should show <sip:523@24.171.11.166> |
| 04:57.21 | *** join/#asterisk Qwellj2me (n=Qwell@unaffiliated/qwell) |
| 04:57.38 | benjk | but the from field should be your SIP URI with BV |
| 04:57.51 | joelsolanki | does any provide cheap termination for south africa / uae ? |
| 05:00.29 | benjk | basically, SIP messages need to be equivalent to somthing like "Hi, there you guys at flintstones.org, I am fred@flintstones.org and I can be contacted at foo@1.2.3.4" |
| 05:01.40 | riddlebox | something has got to be wrong in conf files then |
| 05:02.25 | benjk | then flintstones.org will check if you really are fred@flintstones.org and if you are, then they will use foo@1.2.3.4 to talk to you |
| 05:03.41 | benjk | of course SIP is one of those megalomaniac gigantosaur things |
| 05:04.01 | riddlebox | I will figure it out thanks for the help |
| 05:04.13 | benjk | so there is plenty of parameters to make things less straightforward |
| 05:05.15 | riddlebox | thats true |
| 05:05.31 | benjk | some providers add certain bits here and there to make the configuration work only with their own service in order to keep certain devices out and then you have to fiddle with the configs until you match exactly what their black box devices do |
| 05:06.03 | benjk | however, BV say this is BYOD so they don't seem to want to lock you into a particular device |
| 05:06.25 | riddlebox | yeah I know |
| 05:06.50 | riddlebox | I will just have to find someone that uses it and pick their brain |
| 05:07.02 | benjk | didn't you find anything on the Wiki? |
| 05:07.23 | riddlebox | havent searched it yet |
| 05:07.38 | benjk | chance is there will be a wiki page just for BV |
| 05:10.52 | riddlebox | benjk:I am looking now, thanks |
| 05:15.08 | mrdigital | benjk: do you like the flintstones? |
| 05:15.38 | benjk | why? |
| 05:24.18 | mrdigital | cause you use it on all ur mac asterisk examples |
| 05:24.19 | mrdigital | j/w |
| 05:24.57 | mrdigital | benjk: * can be intergrated with Databases right? |
| 05:29.19 | mrdigital | smirl? |
| 05:29.32 | Qwell | meh |
| 05:29.41 | mrdigital | meh? |
| 05:29.56 | mrdigital | Qwell can i pm you? |
| 05:30.31 | Qwell | depends...do you owe me money? :) |
| 05:30.35 | mrdigital | maybe |
| 05:30.38 | mrdigital | pm? |
| 05:30.40 | Qwell | then...maybe |
| 05:30.42 | Qwell | :p |
| 05:30.51 | Qwell | sure, since it's Christmas, I'll let it slide :p |
| 05:31.30 | benjk | its convenient to use because just about everybody knows that fred belongs to flintstones, and also other names like barney and wilma etc |
| 05:32.21 | benjk | so examples using such a familiar context are easier to read |
| 05:32.48 | mrdigital | benjk: have you ever made menus before? press 1 for fred 2 for bam-bam 3 for dino |
| 05:32.49 | mrdigital | ? |
| 05:33.03 | benjk | sure |
| 05:33.23 | benjk | btw, the term is IVR |
| 05:33.29 | wasim | merry xmas benjk |
| 05:33.30 | mrdigital | not IVR |
| 05:33.37 | wasim | and the rest of you as well |
| 05:33.38 | mrdigital | thats voice recon right? |
| 05:33.40 | benjk | merry xmas wasim |
| 05:33.45 | wasim | mrdigital: interactive voice response |
| 05:33.59 | Qwell | interactive can be pressing buttons, or talking, or whatever |
| 05:33.59 | mrdigital | yeah i dont want Interactive VOICE |
| 05:33.59 | benjk | no, not voice recognition |
| 05:34.03 | mrdigital | simple pressing the button is fine |
| 05:34.11 | benjk | IVR == interactive voice response |
| 05:34.12 | wasim | doh ... sorry |
| 05:34.47 | a1fa | guys |
| 05:34.47 | Qwell | interactive voter registrar? |
| 05:34.50 | a1fa | i fell of my bike today :( |
| 05:34.54 | a1fa | i highslided |
| 05:34.57 | benjk | well, the term is IVR, whether its DTMF or Voice control |
| 05:34.58 | a1fa | fuck i am hurt |
| 05:34.59 | Qwell | a1fa: aww, did you scrape your knee? :( |
| 05:35.05 | a1fa | i scraped both of them |
| 05:35.08 | Qwell | sucker |
| 05:35.08 | mrdigital | benjk: can you code a ivr? |
| 05:35.12 | a1fa | i scraped my elbows and shoulder |
| 05:35.15 | wasim | a1fa: put calendula Q on it |
| 05:35.17 | Qwell | mrdigital: IVRs are quite easy |
| 05:35.21 | benjk | sure I can |
| 05:35.33 | wasim | a1fa: and take some arnica 30 for the ache |
| 05:35.34 | benjk | its easy to fo |
| 05:35.36 | benjk | do |
| 05:35.40 | a1fa | due |
| 05:35.41 | a1fa | :( |
| 05:35.44 | a1fa | i am fucked |
| 05:35.53 | Qwell | a1fa: being fucked isn't a bad thing |
| 05:36.00 | Qwell | well...sometimes |
| 05:36.08 | benjk | the hard part is to think about the appropriate text and make it short and easy to use for callers |
| 05:36.26 | mrdigital | i want an extention to call 1234 and they get a menu saying press 1 for order status then IVR captures the order # and * looks up a database using the order and read the status back to the caller |
| 05:36.35 | mrdigital | im just doing this to possibly present this to my boss |
| 05:36.38 | mrdigital | we need * BAD |
| 05:36.45 | mrdigital | but hes a cheap ass |
| 05:36.54 | a1fa | http://207.210.210.202/look.wmv |
| 05:36.59 | mrdigital | look? |
| 05:37.00 | mrdigital | duded |
| 05:37.03 | mrdigital | you filmed ur cuts? |
| 05:37.07 | Qwell | wtf |
| 05:37.10 | Qwell | in wmv? |
| 05:37.11 | a1fa | no |
| 05:37.19 | a1fa | this is me having a sucessful run |
| 05:37.22 | a1fa | i fell today |
| 05:37.24 | a1fa | it was too cold |
| 05:37.26 | mrdigital | benjk: how long will this take to code? |
| 05:37.28 | a1fa | and the bike lost traction |
| 05:37.56 | Qwell | mrdigital: if the database is done right, and you know what you're doing...maybe an hour |
| 05:38.09 | mrdigital | the database is made already |
| 05:38.13 | mrdigital | and i dont know what im doing |
| 05:38.14 | benjk | depends on how well you can integrate the underlying database |
| 05:38.17 | mrdigital | which is why im asking for help? |
| 05:38.40 | Qwell | mrdigital: well, here's a freebie. (in order to do it for you, it'd cost). |
| 05:38.50 | Qwell | mrdigital: You want to look at the Realtime, and Read applications |
| 05:38.58 | benjk | if it is MySQL or Postgres, those are often used with Asterisk and there is plenty of glue code around to hook them up |
| 05:39.02 | wasim | time well worth spent reading up voip-info.org |
| 05:39.13 | mrdigital | qwell: wheres the freebie? |
| 05:39.16 | Qwell | That was it |
| 05:39.21 | wasim | that was it |
| 05:39.25 | mrdigital | lol ok |
| 05:39.38 | mrdigital | i can do the mysql part i need to know the ivr coding |
| 05:39.49 | dudes | IVR and * are f'n easy |
| 05:39.55 | Corydon76-home | mrdigital: look at the examples |
| 05:39.58 | mrdigital | where? |
| 05:40.02 | dudes | you can read on voip-info.org for 5 minutes and write |
| 05:40.14 | dudes | if not, then read another 5 minutes |
| 05:40.22 | wasim | repeat |
| 05:40.23 | a1fa | hhehe |
| 05:40.25 | a1fa | i am hurtin |
| 05:40.25 | Qwell | 5 to start, then 10 |
| 05:40.29 | Qwell | and double it every time |
| 05:40.34 | Qwell | if you get to an hour, give up. :) |
| 05:40.35 | dudes | exactly |
| 05:40.43 | wasim | and hire an assmassa |
| 05:40.55 | dudes | cause you're clearly not ever going to get it then |
| 05:41.52 | dudes | http://www.dailyfunnyshit.com/core/pics/snowsex.jpg <--- haha |
| 05:42.25 | Qwell | hmm |
| 05:42.28 | Corydon76-home | mrdigital: once you install Asterisk, you can do a 'make samples' to install an example config |
| 05:42.33 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: You know app_vm pretty well? |
| 05:42.49 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: reasonably well |
| 05:42.57 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: without looking (I can do that myself, just wanted an opinion really quick), you can't delete a temp greeting if you're using realtime, can you? |
| 05:43.12 | Corydon76-home | Beats me |
| 05:43.22 | Qwell | I'm looking at this patch you put in earlier, and I see that part, and I see it doing an ast_fileexists |
| 05:43.27 | Corydon76-home | That's a very specific question about the code |
| 05:43.30 | Qwell | (you didn't change it, it was just right there) |
| 05:43.49 | Qwell | I'm gonna look at that. I don't think you can. I was wondering why I didn't get an option to do so at work |
| 05:44.12 | Qwell | I seriously hate the realtime vm code... |
| 05:44.24 | Qwell | well, not realtime...odbcstorage |
| 05:44.53 | Corydon76-home | We're going to revamp some of the ODBC stuff in the next release cycle |
| 05:45.27 | Corydon76-home | ODBC stuff was all written and tested using mysql... and it shows... |
| 05:45.42 | Qwell | yeah...same with odbcstorage. It simply doesn't work on anything else. |
| 05:45.52 | Qwell | I can think of two bugs right now which affect mssql and pgsql |
| 05:45.54 | Corydon76-home | If I can make it work reliably against MS SQL Server, that should broaden the support acceptably |
| 05:46.04 | Qwell | I have it working on mssql at work. |
| 05:46.09 | Qwell | It's not pretty, but it does work |
| 05:46.31 | Qwell | Are you in -dev? I can explain what I did to fix it in there |
| 05:46.46 | Corydon76-home | and to be clear, it's not because I prefer mssql server, it's that I have a customer who uses it |
| 05:46.59 | Qwell | yeah, I highly prefer mysql, but...sometimes, you just can't |
| 05:47.00 | Corydon76-home | Yep |
| 05:51.28 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (n=chatzill@18.192.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 05:51.55 | Corydon76-home | Howdy, coppice |
| 05:53.17 | coppice | hi, lonely one :-) |
| 05:57.34 | Corydon76-home | Who, me, lonely? |
| 05:58.15 | *** join/#asterisk pengyong (n=lala@222.188.141.151) |
| 05:58.28 | coppice | bein here instead of celebrating christmas with drunken relatives could be considered a clue to that :-) |
| 06:02.39 | joelsolanki | i have asterisk on Public ip and i have cisco ata 186 on private IP. now i want to make calls from ata. is there any special config for NAT on cisco ata. any links plz |
| 06:04.00 | dudes | use google |
| 06:04.11 | dudes | or voip-info.org and you'd find the info you're looking for, quickly |
| 06:04.57 | *** join/#asterisk sofh (i=sofh@203.135.9.13) |
| 06:05.06 | joelsolanki | ok :) |
| 06:05.17 | sofh | hello all... |
| 06:05.35 | sofh | some body would tell me which codec should be used with asterisk to save the max bw as we can ? |
| 06:05.52 | wasim | lpc10 |
| 06:06.01 | wasim | with iax2 trunking |
| 06:06.02 | Johnnie | LOL |
| 06:06.05 | dudes | voip-info.org has a good reference of bw use |
| 06:06.13 | sofh | i know it dudes.. |
| 06:06.21 | Johnnie | I should have known that was coming. |
| 06:06.23 | sofh | but i m wondering wat the hell is going with me... |
| 06:06.25 | dudes | then why ask a stupid question |
| 06:06.33 | sofh | ulaw is consuming about 300k :P |
| 06:06.38 | wasim | eh? |
| 06:06.44 | dudes | are you f'n high |
| 06:06.45 | coppice | max bandwidth would be 24 bit linear sampling at 192k sample/second |
| 06:06.46 | sofh | min is on iLBC and around 90Kbps |
| 06:07.00 | sofh | thats why i asked this stupid qs , that where i've done any mistake |
| 06:07.26 | sofh | i've changed OS , but still same thing... |
| 06:07.39 | sofh | IAX , SIP both are on same.. |
| 06:07.55 | sofh | this means i can use it easily on LAN , but no WAN at all |
| 06:08.01 | sofh | DUDES! now got me ? |
| 06:08.19 | dudes | if you were in arms length ... |
| 06:08.28 | sofh | i know its very high and i am doing some mistake...but i can't resolve this...tried everything i can.. |
| 06:08.40 | dudes | then perhaps you should give up |
| 06:08.47 | sofh | lolz.... |
| 06:08.51 | dudes | cause clearly if ulaw is using 300k |
| 06:08.53 | dudes | you're a f'n idiot |
| 06:09.06 | sofh | nice suggestion..y don't u leave this room if u can't give a +ve to somebody ? |
| 06:09.27 | dudes | well since ulaw doesn't use 300k ... |
| 06:09.50 | sofh | not a single voip codec uses so much bw.. |
| 06:10.04 | sofh | thts why i am here to ask what could be wrong |
| 06:10.07 | Johnnie | sofh: You can try G726 or somesuch. |
| 06:10.16 | dudes | sofh min is on iLBC and around 90Kbps ??? |
| 06:10.22 | sofh | yeah.... |
| 06:10.23 | dudes | sofh ulaw is consuming about 300k :P ??? |
| 06:10.30 | Johnnie | How are you measuring your throughput? |
| 06:10.41 | dudes | ilbc doesn't use 99Kbps |
| 06:10.47 | sofh | and more intersting is that quality is same on very codec |
| 06:10.48 | dudes | err 90Kbps |
| 06:10.54 | sofh | different... |
| 06:11.06 | sofh | iptraf |
| 06:11.13 | sofh | and mrtg both |
| 06:11.18 | Johnnie | Hmmm. |
| 06:11.29 | dudes | ilbc doesn't use a lot of b/w |
| 06:11.52 | sofh | dear dude..this is what i am worried about...everybody knows it should use so much bw.... |
| 06:11.59 | dudes | I've had 1 ulaw 1 ilbc and 1 g729 on 256k/bit |
| 06:12.07 | sofh | the question is not it should use or not..question is why it is using so much |
| 06:12.10 | dudes | and the quality was perfect |
| 06:12.32 | dudes | no one f'n knows cause you've only implied it does which it doesnt and clearly your setup is fucked up |
| 06:12.44 | dudes | so perhaps you need to evaluate your setup to answer the question |
| 06:12.51 | sofh | i was using Gentoo...then i change to slackware , Suse..but same result |
| 06:13.12 | dudes | then you're f'n connection is getting hammered on by other sources outside of * |
| 06:13.20 | dudes | so perhaps, log the incoming udp/tcp |
| 06:13.24 | sofh | ok to check my installtion i simply install *@home and its same on that even |
| 06:13.36 | dudes | instead of asking a f'n networking question in a telephony channel |
| 06:13.44 | sofh | i am login every packet...thas y i know that they are using so much bw |
| 06:13.54 | dudes | no |
| 06:14.00 | sofh | it is not related to network..otherwise i know how to resolve it |
| 06:14.03 | dudes | they will no us that much b/w even with IP overhead |
| 06:14.14 | dudes | no you don't know shit |
| 06:14.16 | Johnnie | sofh: What in blazes are you using for SIP? |
| 06:14.38 | sofh | dudes! i dont know what is wrong with you.... |
| 06:14.56 | dudes | what's wrong with me is you thinking we can answer a question that makes no f'n sense ' |
| 06:15.08 | sofh | i just said i am a newbie in asterisk and facing this problem..if u don't have a good point to say then simply ignore me... |
| 06:15.16 | SkramX | btw, Hiya Johnnie |
| 06:15.25 | dudes | sofh - it's networking and you need to fix that |
| 06:15.39 | dudes | cause no f'n codec that * uses will use 300k/bits |
| 06:15.46 | Johnnie | sofh: What are you using for a SIP device? |
| 06:15.55 | Johnnie | Or are you not using SIP and using a TDM card somewhere? |
| 06:16.23 | sofh | for SIP ,i've ATA , and Xlite |
| 06:16.24 | dudes | using SIP/TDM wouldn't cause a issue with b/w |
| 06:16.37 | Johnnie | dudes: Let me come full circle. :) |
| 06:16.47 | sofh | infect it was working perfect on my home..then i tried to connect it with my office |
| 06:17.04 | dudes | NETWORK !!! pay f'n attention |
| 06:17.10 | Johnnie | Alright, sofh, and have you unplugged other network devices to ensure that you're not logging other traffic? |
| 06:17.12 | sofh | on home offcourse it was LAN ..so no problem at all, but when i tried to conenct to my office sound was so choppy |
| 06:17.38 | sofh | i searched a lot on internt but nothing to find ..then i monitor the BW and found it is using so high |
| 06:17.56 | *** join/#asterisk linlin (i=linlin@c-67-184-159-233.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 06:18.00 | dudes | reason you didn't find shit on the internet is cause ULAW doesn't use 300k/bits |
| 06:18.00 | *** join/#asterisk tartar (n=tartar@CPE0004e27b716e-CM014370001917.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 06:18.04 | sofh | so i got the only reason that on WAN i-e my 128k DSL it is not working |
| 06:18.25 | linlin | are SIPURA SPA2000 boxes compatible with asterisk? |
| 06:18.34 | sofh | i told i changed even OS.... |
| 06:18.35 | Qwell | linlin: sure |
| 06:18.51 | sofh | nothing is on network...nothing is on linux except asterisk |
| 06:18.55 | dudes | and if you only have 128k/bit you're ceartainly not going to know that a ulaw call is using 300k/bit |
| 06:18.58 | linlin | ok thats awesome |
| 06:19.15 | sofh | only three pc , 1 asterisk box and two windows XP with SIP PHONEs.. |
| 06:19.15 | Qwell | linlin: as long as they aren't locked or anything |
| 06:19.32 | linlin | i found a large amount of them in a dumpster and im not sure if they work yet, but it would be really cool to not have to buy them to get started on asterisk |
| 06:19.43 | dudes | sofh - fix your shit then aska telephony question. |
| 06:19.44 | Qwell | umm...okay |
| 06:19.45 | sofh | and still i found when i am talking to other xlite client from one pc..the BW usage on asterisk is sometimes higher then 300k |
| 06:19.54 | linlin | heh i know ;) |
| 06:19.57 | Qwell | linlin: wash one off, and ship it here, for helping you :P |
| 06:20.02 | sofh | Dude! tell me 1 thing.. |
| 06:20.03 | dudes | higher than ... |
| 06:20.12 | sofh | how long u've been using linux and involved in networking ? |
| 06:20.13 | linlin | k |
| 06:20.21 | dudes | since I was 13 |
| 06:20.25 | sofh | and now you are ? |
| 06:20.27 | Qwell | linlin: check the wiki, there are instructions on getting them to work |
| 06:20.30 | dudes | so 9 years |
| 06:20.48 | sofh | 9 yrs on linux..but till yet u didn't give any technical idea :D |
| 06:20.55 | dudes | I did |
| 06:20.56 | Johnnie | sofh: I think you may have erroneous statistics as far as guaging network traffic. |
| 06:21.04 | dudes | no shit |
| 06:21.06 | linlin | i also got what i believe to be the business end of a polycom ip phone |
| 06:21.14 | sofh | i tried everything..installed fbsd , controll the traffic with dummy net and as a result i was unable to get the sound qualtiy :D |
| 06:21.21 | linlin | nice phones from what i hear |
| 06:21.33 | Johnnie | Well, swapping OSes won't remedy the problem. |
| 06:21.40 | sofh | Johnnie! ok then forget the logs and monitoring |
| 06:21.47 | sofh | tell me why it is not working over internet ? |
| 06:21.51 | Johnnie | How are you isolating packets? |
| 06:22.06 | sofh | when i try to call my office phones (soft or hard) it rings them..but both of us can't understand each other |
| 06:22.10 | dudes | he needs to fix the real issue ... he has a 128k/bit DSL and * is using 300k/bits out |
| 06:22.13 | Johnnie | Well, the Internet is complex... your traffic could be travelling anywhere. |
| 06:22.16 | dudes | which really isn't possibel |
| 06:22.35 | Johnnie | Or, it could be your interface to the world... are you using IDSL or somesuch? |
| 06:22.54 | sofh | dear Dudes...as far i know 128k is as high as a superb quality mp3 using..so voip codecs should not high .. |
| 06:23.02 | sofh | anbd for 1 channel 128 should be more then enough |
| 06:23.20 | Johnnie | Do you have a TDM card installed, sofh? |
| 06:23.22 | dudes | ulaw is 64k/bits and /w IP overhead using around 90k/bit |
| 06:23.23 | sofh | i tried other mediums , not only the DSL |
| 06:23.37 | dudes | then get a f'n T1 and shutup |
| 06:23.46 | sofh | CDMA , dial up , ISDN but nothing |
| 06:24.01 | sofh | i'd x100p but i don't need these cards.. |
| 06:24.16 | sofh | cause i want all things on soft phones ..then why should i've TDM card |
| 06:24.31 | Johnnie | dudes: Your comments are hardly suggestive and helpful. I don't come in here much and don't really hang out, but I don't think that's the kind of image Asterisk users, developers, or Digium staff want conveyed here, so please, unless you can extend courtesy, please refrain for the benefit of the group. |
| 06:24.58 | Johnnie | Okay, sofh, are you calling the remote location using SIP or IAX? |
| 06:25.00 | sofh | right Johnni! |
| 06:25.16 | dudes | wrong actually cause your question isn't releated to * |
| 06:25.19 | sofh | i was calling by IAX ..casue in office i've an asterisk boxd |
| 06:25.27 | dudes | therefore, it should be asked in a bsd or linux channel |
| 06:25.33 | sofh | dudes! can't u hangout for some time ? |
| 06:25.41 | Johnnie | dudes: I think you're mistaken. |
| 06:25.48 | dudes | not when a stupid question is being asked |
| 06:25.49 | Johnnie | What's the timing frequency set in your kernel, sofh? |
| 06:25.56 | Johnnie | Is it 250 Hz or 1000 Hz? |
| 06:26.07 | Johnnie | I assume you have ztdummy installed, etc. |
| 06:26.12 | dudes | Johnnie - he's far more experienced than you and me, so he should be able to fix it himself. |
| 06:26.25 | sofh | i unload ztdummy..as i've x100p installed |
| 06:26.30 | sangee | anyone know how to setup digium card in japan? |
| 06:26.49 | dudes | and zaptel drivers only apply to trunking /w iax |
| 06:27.09 | sofh | dear dude...in the world we call IT no one is the ONE,,everybody needs somebody |
| 06:27.22 | Qwell | 128k...mp3...superb...heh |
| 06:27.24 | Qwell | no |
| 06:27.29 | dudes | no shit |
| 06:27.30 | dudes | haha |
| 06:27.43 | Johnnie | sofh: Just ignore him, he's trolling at this point. |
| 06:27.46 | sofh | and belive i am here not to ask anything from you |
| 06:27.58 | sofh | ok @ johnnie |
| 06:28.01 | dudes | you should be figuring your f'ed up internet issue |
| 06:28.02 | Johnnie | You're wasting more time entertaining him than you are solving your problem. |
| 06:28.34 | sangee | any one help me to configure TE411 card (in japan)? |
| 06:28.51 | Qwell | get proof * is using 300k for a single call, and post a bug if it really is |
| 06:29.00 | dudes | no shit |
| 06:29.08 | dudes | and if it was ... |
| 06:29.15 | dudes | it would be on the ML |
| 06:29.19 | fu | anyone in here useing sccp to their * box? |
| 06:29.21 | dudes | and on bugs |
| 06:29.23 | dudes | of course |
| 06:29.24 | Qwell | fu: yep |
| 06:29.26 | Johnnie | sofh: Have you considered a QoS router? |
| 06:29.32 | Qwell | chan_sccp from berlios.de |
| 06:29.46 | fu | Qwell, mine pm? |
| 06:29.55 | Qwell | I do mind... |
| 06:29.56 | fu | Qwell, mind pm? |
| 06:29.59 | fu | oha ok |
| 06:30.16 | fu | well whick asterisk phone do you use |
| 06:30.22 | Qwell | 7960 and 7970 |
| 06:30.42 | dudes | I think he is taking a up/down and adding them together ... this being up/down of a call ... and the fact he's connecting remotely to the server so you need to add that and maybe ... just maybe you might see 300k/bit |
| 06:30.44 | fu | Qwell, how well does sccp work over nat? |
| 06:30.50 | Qwell | fu: no clue |
| 06:31.08 | fu | Qwell, oha you have never been curious to try it out, I hear it works quit well |
| 06:31.35 | fu | Qwell, do you use one of the power supplies or to do you use poe, I am just curious of your setup |
| 06:32.08 | *** join/#asterisk ahag (i=sofh@203.135.9.3) |
| 06:33.11 | Qwell | power supplies |
| 06:33.35 | fu | the phones come loaded with the most recent sccp right? |
| 06:33.46 | kiong | hi...johnnie! there ? |
| 06:33.47 | Qwell | don't think so, no |
| 06:33.52 | Qwell | not from cisco |
| 06:34.08 | Johnnie | I am. |
| 06:34.08 | sof_h | sorry i got dc... |
| 06:34.12 | fu | Qwell, do you have any copies of the firmware |
| 06:34.17 | Johnnie | No problem. |
| 06:34.20 | Qwell | fu: not to give away |
| 06:34.40 | fu | oha ok, how much do they cost |
| 06:34.54 | Qwell | the firmware? |
| 06:35.02 | Qwell | You just need a smartnet account |
| 06:35.52 | dudes | Outgoing rates: 3195.1 kbits/sec <--- 10 ulaw calls |
| 06:36.48 | Qwell | 3195/10=319.5 |
| 06:36.55 | dudes | joke |
| 06:36.58 | Qwell | :p |
| 06:37.05 | dudes | sorry, I'm pretty drunk ... |
| 06:37.10 | Qwell | share |
| 06:37.28 | dudes | I was sending a file to a server on a DS3 ... |
| 06:37.40 | *** join/#asterisk mazesloup (n=mazeslou@arg62-1-82-237-253-91.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 06:37.54 | fu | Qwell, i thought you had to purchase a contract |
| 06:37.56 | dudes | figured I'd imply as my upload would be 10 ulaws given they used 300k/bits |
| 06:38.13 | Qwell | fu: The smartnet |
| 06:40.05 | sof_h | wat the hell.....:D |
| 06:40.18 | sof_h | i can't get my nick back as its already login :) sounds good |
| 06:40.31 | Qwell | sof_h: /msg nickserv help |
| 06:40.48 | sof_h | i don't want to register a new nick..i was dc and my nick is there |
| 06:40.56 | Qwell | sof_h: /msg nickserv help |
| 06:42.29 | joelsolanki | hi alll. i m not able to find the solution. for cisco nat support |
| 06:42.51 | joelsolanki | can anyone tell me how do i make cisco ata 186 work behind nat??? |
| 06:42.58 | dudes | nat=1 |
| 06:43.04 | dudes | in sip.conf =0 |
| 06:43.05 | Qwell | joelsolanki: forward the right ports, set nat=yes in sip.conf |
| 06:43.20 | joelsolanki | yes but i have setup of asterisk + ser |
| 06:43.21 | dudes | you don't even need to forward ports |
| 06:43.24 | dudes | at least I dont' |
| 06:43.45 | joelsolanki | i have nathelper+rtpproxy on ser. all users gets registered on there. and ser forwards all request to asterisk |
| 06:43.56 | joelsolanki | ser is on public ip and asterisk is on public ip. |
| 06:44.08 | dudes | then why do you need NAT? |
| 06:44.12 | Qwell | sofh: now paypal me some Christmas cheer, for helping you get your nick back :P |
| 06:44.19 | Qwell | dudes: yeah, really... |
| 06:44.21 | joelsolanki | :) |
| 06:45.18 | joelsolanki | means cisco ata has private ip and it gets registered on SER and when i m calling then it will forward the request to asterisk. so in this setup ..will cisco ata work behind nat ? |
| 06:45.18 | linlin | anyone here pretty framiliar with sipura 2000 or even 3000? im trying to find out how to get into the configuration pages on a 2000 |
| 06:45.36 | Qwell | joelsolanki: the device won't connect to asterisk, it'll connect to SER |
| 06:45.39 | Qwell | as far as I understand it anyhow |
| 06:45.46 | Qwell | linlin: did you check the wiki? |
| 06:46.24 | joelsolanki | Qwell: so it should work right |
| 06:46.52 | joelsolanki | ? |
| 06:47.09 | dudes | I have a cisco ATA/186 befind NAT to a server w/o NAT and I have no ports forwarded and it works great |
| 06:47.29 | dudes | that server being in florida and I'm in MN and it's * |
| 06:49.10 | joelsolanki | ok but u dont have ser in between. |
| 06:49.17 | joelsolanki | i have ser in between client and asterisk. |
| 06:49.31 | joelsolanki | and i have setup nathelper+rtpproxy for this. |
| 06:49.33 | Qwell | both would connect directly to SER |
| 06:49.38 | dudes | but if SER is on Public IP and is * then you have a config issue |
| 06:50.06 | dudes | and w/o some configs I'm unable to help |
| 06:50.21 | joelsolanki | ser and asterisk both are on public IP. but cisco ata is on private ip. |
| 06:50.27 | fu | Qwell, could you send me a link to wher the firmware is located on the smart site? |
| 06:50.31 | joelsolanki | ok let me try something. let uk now. |
| 06:50.35 | Qwell | fu: cisco.com :p |
| 06:50.41 | Qwell | fu: I don't know. I don't have a smartnet either |
| 06:50.42 | joelsolanki | hmm ok |
| 06:51.43 | dudes | I know in the cisco config they allow for a NAT related connection so perhaps setup a fix to appease the nat/non-nat people |
| 06:52.41 | fu | Qwell, then how did you get the firmware on your phones |
| 06:52.50 | dudes | google? |
| 06:53.05 | fu | dudes, who are you talking to ? |
| 06:53.18 | fu | dudes, refering to |
| 06:53.40 | dudes | meaning, I've updated my cisco firewire from a google search |
| 06:59.22 | Qwell | haha |
| 06:59.26 | Qwell | "Did you mean: gundealer" |
| 06:59.29 | Qwell | I love google |
| 06:59.45 | dudes | gnudialer != gundealer |
| 06:59.53 | Qwell | yeah :p |
| 07:00.10 | dudes | I'm gonna talk to those google guys about that |
| 07:00.19 | dudes | cause that's not even cool ... liberal f'ers |
| 07:00.20 | linlin | Qwell what wiki were you refering to |
| 07:00.23 | Qwell | ~wikis |
| 07:00.25 | jbot | wikis is probably http://www.voip-info.org |
| 07:00.31 | dudes | voip-info.org |
| 07:00.32 | linlin | ah ok that one |
| 07:00.51 | dudes | is hosted by commpartners at their colo in Las Vegas Nevada on a OC-48 |
| 07:01.02 | linlin | its kinda cool i just got all these boxes for free, from what i gather i can do alot with them right? |
| 07:01.08 | Qwell | linlin: sure |
| 07:01.12 | Qwell | how many did you get? |
| 07:01.17 | linlin | 6 |
| 07:01.21 | dudes | what kind? |
| 07:01.22 | Qwell | not too shabby |
| 07:01.28 | Qwell | They're like, what, $80 each? |
| 07:01.32 | linlin | im pretty sure not all of them work |
| 07:01.35 | linlin | i think so |
| 07:01.38 | Qwell | I'd test them and ebay them |
| 07:01.44 | dudes | right on |
| 07:01.52 | dudes | ebay roxs |
| 07:02.06 | linlin | after i play a little bit :) |
| 07:02.28 | dudes | anyone want a compaq ipaq /w a celery 500mhz ? |
| 07:02.38 | Qwell | ipaq? which kind? |
| 07:02.39 | linlin | nice pda |
| 07:02.42 | Qwell | The POS desktop, or pda? |
| 07:02.53 | Qwell | I've got a POS desktop ipaq |
| 07:02.58 | dudes | ipaw, desktop /w 64MB ram |
| 07:03.02 | Qwell | meh |
| 07:03.02 | dudes | err ipaq |
| 07:03.06 | Qwell | no, want mine? |
| 07:03.09 | dudes | no |
| 07:03.11 | Qwell | heh |
| 07:03.16 | Qwell | can't even give them away |
| 07:03.33 | dudes | I have that f'er in a closet here and though it made a good proxy when I was in HS ... |
| 07:03.46 | Qwell | I got mine like...a year ago. It's junk |
| 07:03.48 | dudes | It's going in the dumpster |
| 07:03.52 | Qwell | Have you tried to open those damn things? |
| 07:04.06 | dudes | the first time I did I was all cut up |
| 07:04.12 | Qwell | heh, yeah...you and me both |
| 07:04.27 | Qwell | I think I modded the inside of mine, to actually fit a hd |
| 07:04.37 | dudes | I hate them things ' |
| 07:04.43 | Qwell | stupid ass doublesided motherboards |
| 07:05.07 | Qwell | with the pathetic proprietary cd/floppy connector, that gets converted to yet another proprietary connector |
| 07:05.19 | Qwell | it's craptastic |
| 07:05.32 | dudes | I don't like Intel in general |
| 07:05.35 | Qwell | dudes: might get like $150 on ebay for it |
| 07:05.40 | Qwell | toss in a little more ram |
| 07:05.50 | Qwell | make it like 128-256 |
| 07:06.11 | dudes | I got a couple 256/512 PC100 chips I don't use |
| 07:06.16 | Qwell | yeah, most people do |
| 07:06.21 | dudes | do they handle 512? |
| 07:06.24 | Qwell | drop one or two of those...I bet you'll get a bit |
| 07:06.26 | Qwell | probably not |
| 07:06.36 | Qwell | try it |
| 07:06.38 | dudes | well I bet the 256's will go in |
| 07:06.43 | Qwell | probably, yeah |
| 07:06.50 | Qwell | I think it has what, 2 slots? |
| 07:06.57 | dudes | yup |
| 07:07.01 | dudes | and 3 PCI's |
| 07:07.20 | Qwell | oh, man...you know what else that freaking thing has? |
| 07:07.37 | dudes | It made a decent desktop /w *nix 3 years ago for coding though |
| 07:07.38 | Qwell | Those asstacular secure screws |
| 07:07.49 | Qwell | t15 or some such? I forget the name |
| 07:08.01 | *** join/#asterisk linlin2 (i=linlin@c-67-184-159-233.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 07:08.04 | dudes | not sure on that front |
| 07:08.09 | Qwell | I broke a screwdriver, and some pliars getting mine out |
| 07:08.17 | Qwell | pliers? whichever |
| 07:08.29 | dudes | getting what out? |
| 07:08.32 | Qwell | the screws |
| 07:08.50 | dudes | which ones? |
| 07:08.54 | *** join/#asterisk sofh (i=sofh@203.135.0.232) |
| 07:08.55 | Qwell | the secure POSs |
| 07:08.58 | dudes | those * ones? |
| 07:09.16 | Qwell | yeah, but, they have that stupid ass thing in the center, so you can't just use a screwdriver |
| 07:09.42 | dudes | by step dad had some computer case that made those easy to take out |
| 07:09.44 | linlin2 | oh awesome this one turns on and i can get to the config page :))) |
| 07:09.59 | Qwell | http://www.wihatools.com/indexes/indxSecuritytorx.htm |
| 07:10.02 | linlin2 | this is so cool ive wanted to mess around with this pbx stuff for so long and now i have stuff to do it with |
| 07:10.03 | Qwell | Those freaking things |
| 07:10.26 | Qwell | dudes: look at the picture on top |
| 07:10.44 | *** join/#asterisk bkw__ (n=brian@ppp-70-243-94-102.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net) |
| 07:10.48 | Qwell | That fits a sadist screw... |
| 07:10.58 | Qwell | I probably spent a good...3 hours? |
| 07:11.17 | dudes | ecks ... |
| 07:11.36 | dudes | If something takes more than an hour I just get done what I get done and put it away until later |
| 07:11.47 | Qwell | I gave up multiple times |
| 07:12.08 | dudes | But with dev and shit /w "gundealer" we're super busy |
| 07:12.11 | *** join/#asterisk implicit (n=implicit@ip70-181-114-97.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 07:12.37 | Qwell | You should try to get the highest hit on google for "gundealer" |
| 07:12.53 | dudes | hmm |
| 07:13.11 | dudes | write a PHP bot so when googles bot comes along .... |
| 07:13.15 | Qwell | The gundealers would eventually get quite pissed, and call google, to fix it :p |
| 07:13.41 | dudes | I hate when I look for gnudialer on google it says gundealer |
| 07:14.06 | dudes | being I won't own a gun as I figure I have plently of computers to throw in the event of an intruder |
| 07:14.38 | dudes | I wrote a Calling Card App today that's pretty cool |
| 07:16.06 | Qwell | so, what is gnudialer exactly? |
| 07:16.24 | Qwell | too lazy to google again |
| 07:17.16 | dudes | it's a dialer |
| 07:17.26 | *** join/#asterisk sofh (i=sofh@203.135.8.97) |
| 07:17.43 | dudes | gnudialer.org |
| 07:18.28 | sangee | anyone know NTT use what framing type? |
| 07:18.48 | dudes | Heath and I have been writing a completely sandboxed version the last few months |
| 07:19.03 | dudes | it's really kick ass |
| 07:19.08 | dudes | and cool |
| 07:19.19 | dudes | SP ---- super badass and cool ... |
| 07:19.19 | benjk | NTT uses J1 |
| 07:20.45 | benjk | dudes: are you involved in the gnudialer project? |
| 07:21.04 | dudes | heath and I started gnudialer this time last year |
| 07:21.10 | benjk | cool |
| 07:21.54 | benjk | it would be nice if you integrated Zeroconf to pick up the astremotedial service that we advertise (from Asterisk) |
| 07:22.18 | dudes | that'd be a good post on the forum |
| 07:22.56 | *** join/#asterisk tzafrir_laptop (n=tzafrir@local.xorcom.com) |
| 07:22.57 | benjk | as you may or may not know, Simon and I have released a Zeroconf module for Asterisk |
| 07:23.17 | dudes | I'm not familiar /w zeroconf |
| 07:23.20 | benjk | it lets Asterisk advertise services for service discovery (via mDNS) |
| 07:23.28 | benjk | multicast DNS |
| 07:23.42 | benjk | so client apps can pick up the info and autoconfigure themselves |
| 07:23.51 | benjk | we added a remote dial service |
| 07:24.17 | dudes | kind of like tftp |
| 07:24.21 | benjk | so that dialers like yours can discover the service and then autoconfigure |
| 07:24.49 | benjk | well its much more flexible than dhcp or tftp |
| 07:24.59 | dudes | so is a dialer ... hehe |
| 07:25.26 | dudes | But our next release which is in strong production will be easier than previous |
| 07:25.47 | benjk | sure, but the dialer can learn how to log in to asterisk to initiate calls this way and it will be instant |
| 07:25.59 | dudes | but it's still not a easy task, cause it's a f'n dialer and no one wants to conform to a set standards |
| 07:26.12 | benjk | if you have a change and do a reload on Asterisk, the dialer will immediately know |
| 07:26.34 | benjk | Zeroconf is an IETF standard |
| 07:26.56 | benjk | and the most widely used service discovery protocol to date |
| 07:27.01 | dudes | I wasn't saying Zeroconf isn't a standard ... |
| 07:27.06 | benjk | ok |
| 07:27.16 | dudes | I was saying that people that use dialers don't conform to a standard |
| 07:27.37 | benjk | anyway, the service advertising capability in Asterisk is there |
| 07:28.03 | benjk | so you may just want to use it instead of reinventing another wheel ;) |
| 07:28.11 | dudes | We've been dev'ing for our newest core around database driven design |
| 07:28.19 | *** join/#asterisk opus__ (n=opus@dahphish.org) |
| 07:28.22 | opus__ | yo |
| 07:28.57 | opus__ | Is there a way to do the same functionality as "Dial(Zap/g1/XXXXXXX") in the SIP channel? Dial(SIP/1g/XXXXXXX) ? |
| 07:28.59 | benjk | you mean the dialer has to log in to a remote database |
| 07:29.13 | dudes | yea |
| 07:29.28 | dudes | but it's designed around a large cluster |
| 07:29.38 | dudes | so in the event you dont' need to cluster it'd be local |
| 07:29.46 | benjk | that's not necessarily something that many IT departments would like to do |
| 07:30.00 | benjk | also, you wouldn't want that for a walk in service |
| 07:30.03 | dudes | if you want to sandbox a large setup |
| 07:30.14 | dudes | ie, a hosted setup |
| 07:30.57 | dudes | a db cluster would enable you to have a non-dependant cluster |
| 07:31.10 | wasim | opus__: no, you can do SIP/blah/XXXX&SIP/bleh/XXXX&SIP/bluh/XXXX |
| 07:31.14 | benjk | in any event, there is no harm in supporting existing services even if there are multiple ways to do a similar thing |
| 07:31.23 | dudes | given that you code to take into account locks in the db given XXX timeout for a given lock |
| 07:32.13 | dudes | the puff and coming core could benefit from what you're doing |
| 07:32.24 | opus__ | wasim, no! :) that looks pretty bad. |
| 07:32.27 | benjk | well, the multicast DNS thing is very lightweight |
| 07:32.48 | wasim | opus__: thats the only way you can |
| 07:33.10 | dudes | wouldn't that be a chansavalible thing |
| 07:33.10 | wasim | opus__: or use CHANISAVAIL() |
| 07:33.43 | benjk | you can read about Zeroconf based Service Discovery in general and also how we use it for VoIP with Asterisk at http://www.astmasters.net/projects.html#zeroconf |
| 07:34.29 | dudes | Heath and I wrote a fax app and we were going to call it astfax ... faxing you're ass off ... |
| 07:34.31 | dudes | haha |
| 07:34.45 | opus__ | wasim, maybe i will code it :( |
| 07:35.00 | opus__ | wasim, because the dial string is multiple lines, would look terrible w/ & & & |
| 07:35.18 | benjk | opus: define a global then |
| 07:35.22 | Qwell | x=SIP/1234&SIP/1235 |
| 07:35.24 | Qwell | Dial(x) |
| 07:35.27 | Qwell | ${x} |
| 07:35.40 | benjk | FOO = SIP/foo |
| 07:35.45 | benjk | BAR = SIP/bar |
| 07:36.02 | benjk | Dial(${FOO}&${BAR},... |
| 07:36.20 | Qwell | That's only one less char per channel |
| 07:36.49 | benjk | depends on how long your SIP id is going to be |
| 07:36.59 | opus__ | x=SIP/1234||M(mymacro^1234)&SIP/1235||M(mymacro^1234) ... or ... SIP/1234&SIP/1235||M(mymacro^1234) ? |
| 07:37.14 | Blankman | Hey guys. So, anyone on that has used festival? |
| 07:37.16 | Qwell | the latter |
| 07:37.34 | opus__ | hmmm thats not that bad |
| 07:37.45 | dudes | exten => _NXXNXXXXXX,1,ChanIsAvail(sip/cp1&sip/cp2&sip/cp3&sip/cp4&sip/cp5&sip/cp6&sip/cp7&sip/cp8&sip/cp9) |
| 07:37.56 | Qwell | except... |
| 07:38.04 | Qwell | there is a huge difference between that and Zap groups |
| 07:38.16 | Qwell | All of the phones in that list, will ring |
| 07:38.25 | opus__ | yeah |
| 07:38.33 | opus__ | Which everone picks up wins |
| 07:38.41 | opus__ | which would be fine, but turd polish |
| 07:41.12 | opus__ | nope. won't work :( |
| 07:41.26 | opus__ | I must have zap group like functionality to make this werk doh |
| 07:41.36 | Qwell | opus__: see what dudes said |
| 07:41.53 | opus__ | ok thx |
| 07:42.11 | Qwell | perhaps with option s |
| 07:42.28 | opus__ | Can't call priority jumping code in my script :( |
| 07:42.37 | Qwell | s, not j |
| 07:43.27 | opus__ | ok |
| 07:45.35 | dudes | j? |
| 07:45.59 | Qwell | j - Support jumping to priority n+101 if no channel is available |
| 07:46.05 | Qwell | option j is silly |
| 07:47.12 | Blankman | opus__: what are you trying to do? |
| 07:47.32 | dudes | wasn't aware of that |
| 07:49.14 | Blankman | opus__: from what I can tell, you should either make an AGI for it, or you can use a app_sql to do it from db (we do something like this for iax). Anyhow the last way is to use the internal db ... but that was is a real pain I think. |
| 07:49.39 | Blankman | opus__: if you do it in an agi it will be the most flexible. |
| 07:50.20 | opus__ | i'm doing it in javascript res_js:) |
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| 07:52.55 | opus__ | ext channel that is available is SIP/100010-4fcd and 0 |
| 07:53.01 | opus__ | Nice! |
| 07:54.19 | Blankman | Hey, anyone know how to use festival from the command line to test if it is working right? |
| 07:54.36 | Qwell | Blankman: festival (SayText "test") |
| 07:54.41 | Qwell | or some such silly syntax |
| 07:54.53 | dudes | text2wave file.txt -o file.wav |
| 07:54.59 | opus__ | yes its verys illy syntax |
| 07:55.07 | opus__ | blackman try the docs or a google search |
| 07:55.11 | opus__ | that one i can never remember:) |
| 07:55.17 | Blankman | Hey Qwell. Ummm k. Did that but where does it put the "text" it says? |
| 07:55.17 | dudes | if you want to get tricky .... text2wave myfile.txt -otype ulaw -o mywavfile.wav |
| 07:55.24 | Qwell | Blankman: in quotes |
| 07:55.32 | opus__ | dudes nice |
| 07:55.39 | Qwell | dudes: eww! ulaw with a .wav extension? |
| 07:55.42 | Qwell | .ul |
| 07:55.48 | Blankman | Yeah. It looks like the scheme is right ... least from what I can remember from scheme ;-) |
| 07:56.09 | dudes | I normally give a ulaw no extension and just convert it to gsm or g729 |
| 07:57.00 | Blankman | I just can't figure out where the system is putting files it is making ... not really sure that it is making a file though ... is it supposed to output to a file or what? |
| 07:57.14 | Qwell | With the command I gave, it just plays it |
| 07:57.33 | dudes | if you text2wave a file it's in the same dir as you're in |
| 07:57.45 | dudes | if you have festival installed right |
| 07:57.58 | dudes | but it's buggy ... |
| 07:59.28 | Blankman | Okay .. I will bite ... on what channel? I have alsa on this box, and it is working (least for mp3 and orgg) ... but I don't hear anything and no errors are being thrown. |
| 07:59.35 | dudes | But if you you send me a text file and a place to send the .ul file I'd be happy to do it |
| 08:00.18 | Qwell | oh |
| 08:00.21 | Qwell | Blankman: add --tts |
| 08:00.36 | Qwell | festival --tts "(SayText \"test\")" |
| 08:00.41 | Qwell | or something? |
| 08:00.48 | dudes | or festival |
| 08:00.48 | Qwell | or... |
| 08:00.58 | Qwell | festival --tts < echo (SayText "test") |
| 08:01.00 | dudes | (SayText "hello world") |
| 08:01.28 | Qwell | I think the latter will do it |
| 08:01.58 | Blankman | not: festival -i? |
| 08:02.14 | Qwell | That's the default |
| 08:02.41 | dudes | I just used festival earlier today ... |
| 08:03.01 | dudes | using text2wave and it worked great as long as I converted it to gsm |
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| 08:08.34 | linlin2 | what should i do here |
| 08:08.34 | linlin2 | configure: error: termcap support not found |
| 08:08.34 | linlin2 | make: *** [editline/libedit.a] Error 1 |
| 08:08.44 | Qwell | install termcap |
| 08:09.03 | linlin2 | its not in my apt-get |
| 08:09.09 | linlin2 | install from source? |
| 08:09.15 | Qwell | no, it comes with something else |
| 08:09.27 | Qwell | ncurses |
| 08:10.10 | linlin2 | E: Package ncurses has no installation candidate |
| 08:10.12 | linlin2 | :( |
| 08:10.25 | dudes | linlin2 - voip-info.org debian !!!!!!! |
| 08:10.44 | linlin2 | ok !!!!! |
| 08:10.46 | dudes | not sure if it was you or someone else i told that earlier too |
| 08:10.54 | linlin2 | no not me |
| 08:10.54 | dudes | but fuck !@!@! |
| 08:11.05 | dudes | is it so hard to use google |
| 08:11.22 | dudes | asterisk debian would answer your question quick |
| 08:12.34 | linlin2 | hm well would ya look at that |
| 08:12.39 | dudes | and voip-info.org is hosted by commpartners which rock |
| 08:12.44 | linlin2 | apt-get install asterisk :p |
| 08:12.56 | dudes | why are you apt-getting * when you should get head |
| 08:14.27 | linlin2 | huh |
| 08:14.55 | dudes | asterisk debian site:voip-info.org |
| 08:15.05 | dudes | goto google and look for that |
| 08:15.10 | dudes | then read that and apt-get what you need |
| 08:15.11 | linlin2 | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Linux+Debian |
| 08:16.43 | Blankman | Well guys. I am not getting any closer. I think I am going to call it quits for now ... thanks for your help :-) |
| 08:17.21 | Blankman | I will see if I can find more data on vivisimo since google keeps coming back with bayone ( the gnu proj.) ... |
| 08:17.44 | dudes | bayonne |
| 08:18.00 | Blankman | good nite/day/morning/afternoon ... yeah to tired to spell it right ;-) |
| 08:18.09 | Blankman | Like NJ right :p |
| 08:18.16 | dudes | I'm drunk and tired |
| 08:18.21 | dudes | really drunk |
| 08:18.22 | Blankman | hehehe |
| 08:19.03 | dudes | back |
| 08:19.23 | Blankman | I hate these gui's they are just so much harder than the cli's we used to use :) |
| 08:19.24 | dudes | anyone jammed to cats in the kettle |
| 08:19.38 | dudes | then dont' use a gui |
| 08:19.47 | dudes | any server I setup it's always CLI |
| 08:19.50 | Blankman | Suse made it to hard ... |
| 08:19.56 | dudes | fuck GUI it's homo shit unless it's a desktop |
| 08:20.20 | linlin2 | my my dudes arn't we fistey |
| 08:20.46 | Blankman | well I don't wont to deal so I just going to logout ... nite. |
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| 08:20.54 | dudes | friskey ... t hat's gay |
| 08:21.20 | linlin2 | hats dont have a sexual prefrence, they jsut keep your head warm |
| 08:22.13 | dudes | what |
| 08:22.30 | linlin2 | hats, you know |
| 08:23.40 | linlin2 | im just messing with you |
| 08:23.50 | linlin2 | asterisk is compiling and im bored |
| 08:24.11 | dudes | how long does it take to compile |
| 08:24.24 | linlin2 | probally awhile on the machine im running it on |
| 08:24.27 | SkramX | yeah.. heh, its not /that/ big |
| 08:24.31 | SkramX | linlin2: specs? |
| 08:24.45 | linlin2 | 400mhz p2 128 ram |
| 08:24.50 | SkramX | hmm |
| 08:24.58 | linlin2 | just experimenting |
| 08:25.34 | linlin2 | i have a 500mhz p3 i can drag out if i really need it but im just putting this on my secondary machine |
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| 08:26.33 | dudes | I got * running on P4 3.06Ghz machine |
| 08:26.49 | dudes | it's alright |
| 08:26.52 | linlin2 | why |
| 08:27.10 | linlin2 | way overkill unless its not a dedicated machine |
| 08:27.21 | linlin2 | or your doing a billion lines/phones i guess |
| 08:28.47 | linlin2 | does anyone want one of these sipura 2000 boxes? |
| 08:29.17 | linlin2 | i may be able to come up with a contest or something to see who gets it >:-) |
| 08:29.50 | dudes | I wonder why I'd have a dual P4 box |
| 08:29.51 | SkramX | ill take it :) |
| 08:30.18 | linlin2 | i have 6 and i only really need at most 3 |
| 08:30.23 | linlin2 | since each box does 2 phones |
| 08:30.25 | dudes | perhaps I mantain it ,,, which employ people |
| 08:30.54 | linlin2 | ahhh more compile errors |
| 08:31.16 | linlin2 | this time it seems to be in the source code istelf...hmmm |
| 08:31.34 | SkramX | cvs or 1.2.1? |
| 08:31.40 | linlin2 | 1.2.1 |
| 08:31.50 | SkramX | hmm.. errors? |
| 08:31.56 | linlin2 | lots |
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| 08:32.09 | linlin2 | make[1]: *** [pbx_dundi.o] Error 1 |
| 08:32.13 | linlin2 | all involving that file |
| 08:32.40 | SkramX | hmm |
| 08:32.49 | SkramX | try running make again |
| 08:32.59 | linlin2 | should i make clean first |
| 08:33.02 | SkramX | it will probablu give the same problem |
| 08:33.03 | SkramX | yeah |
| 08:33.06 | SkramX | you should |
| 08:33.12 | SkramX | :) |
| 08:33.19 | linlin2 | making |
| 08:33.36 | linlin2 | mr-smiley-that-wants-a-sipura-box |
| 08:34.48 | sangee | anyone know how to configure TE411P for NTT (japan telecom)? |
| 08:35.16 | SkramX | linlin2: heh, for free, id take it |
| 08:35.38 | linlin2 | ill give one away, i jsut have to come up with a way to choose someone... |
| 08:35.55 | linlin2 | i like to give back the the community any way that i could and since i cnat really code |
| 08:36.18 | SkramX | heh |
| 08:38.39 | linlin2 | heh this one is missing a status led |
| 08:39.03 | linlin2 | i shall solder one on from this one with the blown up SMT resistors |
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| 08:40.27 | linlin2 | i can do hardware..when it comes to the software i have very limite patience |
| 08:41.47 | SkramX | cool, cool |
| 08:42.02 | dudes | coding is hard |
| 08:42.15 | SkramX | coding is hott, haha |
| 08:42.23 | dudes | hardware is a breeze to setup |
| 08:42.31 | dudes | but code the software for them ... |
| 08:42.37 | SkramX | yeapps |
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| 08:43.58 | Qwell | software is easy :D |
| 08:44.46 | linlin2 | same error |
| 08:44.52 | linlin2 | should i try cvs? |
| 08:44.59 | Qwell | What error? |
| 08:45.10 | linlin2 | little too much to paste |
| 08:45.14 | Qwell | ~pb |
| 08:45.20 | Qwell | You're still missing some libs or something |
| 08:45.34 | SkramX | did you make and make install zaptel/libpri, linlin2? |
| 08:45.41 | Qwell | linlin2: pastebin.ca |
| 08:46.32 | linlin2 | installed them with apt get |
| 08:46.40 | Qwell | You probably still need one or two |
| 08:46.47 | SkramX | indeed |
| 08:46.52 | dudes | cd libpri && make && make install && cd ../ && cd zaptel && make && make install && cd ../ && libpri && cd ../ && cd asterisk && make && make install |
| 08:46.55 | SkramX | just compile all asterisk dependencies from source |
| 08:47.00 | Qwell | eww |
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| 08:47.15 | linlin2 | http://pastebin.ca/34899 |
| 08:47.17 | Qwell | dudes: cd ../ && cd zaptel ? |
| 08:47.25 | Qwell | simplify...man |
| 08:47.25 | dudes | what |
| 08:47.34 | dudes | could but I"m too drunk to care |
| 08:47.42 | linlin2 | cd ../zaptel :p |
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| 08:47.50 | Qwell | Z_OK undeclared? |
| 08:47.59 | dudes | I figured if I did cd ../ && and I wouldn't forget a && |
| 08:48.16 | linlin2 | and it does have all those strange symboles in the ssh window too, not just from the pastebin |
| 08:48.20 | dudes | cause that tends to be a bigger nit pick |
| 08:49.33 | dudes | and I'm trashed |
| 08:49.34 | Qwell | zlib |
| 08:50.05 | Qwell | linlin2: try installing zlib |
| 08:50.13 | linlin2 | E: Couldn't find package zlib |
| 08:50.15 | linlin2 | source ? |
| 08:50.24 | SkramX | google ? |
| 08:50.31 | dudes | apt-get install zlib1g-dev |
| 08:50.51 | dudes | if you would've search voip-info.org as I mentioned before ... WOT WOT WOT |
| 08:50.52 | linlin2 | that worked |
| 08:51.53 | linlin2 | attempting to make again |
| 08:51.58 | dudes | which voip-info.org is hosted freely by Commpartners |
| 08:52.10 | dudes | DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Linux+Debian |
| 08:53.01 | linlin2 | well, people are helping, if they didnt want to they would jsut sit there |
| 08:53.21 | dudes | but if you fucking listen you'd be able to help yourself |
| 08:53.22 | dudes | but |
| 08:53.33 | dudes | I tell you howto and you don't listen |
| 08:53.34 | dudes | so |
| 08:53.51 | dudes | here you are more than a hour later behind |
| 08:54.00 | linlin2 | im sensing some hostility between us here |
| 08:54.07 | dudes | yea |
| 08:54.09 | linlin2 | oh im not in any kind of rush |
| 08:54.19 | dudes | it's cause you don't fucking listen |
| 08:56.57 | dudes | well I suppose not listen "read" |
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| 08:58.05 | linlin2 | oh livinded i didnt know he was here i know him |
| 08:59.19 | SkramX | linlin2: install asterisk already, bro |
| 08:59.32 | linlin2 | its buildin!! |
| 08:59.46 | SkramX | ooo |
| 08:59.55 | linlin2 | 4th attempt |
| 09:00.02 | linlin2 | probally gunna fail for another reason |
| 09:00.11 | linlin2 | takes forever on this piece of shit |
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| 09:01.32 | linlin2 | wtf this ip phone i also got in a dumpster has no power connector |
| 09:02.04 | linlin2 | think its POE ? |
| 09:02.14 | sancho|laptop | most likely |
| 09:02.25 | linlin2 | polycom |
| 09:02.46 | dudes | linlin2 - wtf are you doing |
| 09:02.53 | linlin2 | hmm well ill have to find a way to ghetto power to this thing to |
| 09:02.58 | linlin2 | jsut fuckin with stuff dude |
| 09:02.58 | sancho|laptop | poe is nice. ness wires. and dont have to block half of a power strip with an adaptor |
| 09:03.18 | linlin2 | i have a bunch of stuff i got from this local place dls.net |
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| 09:03.56 | linlin2 | ive had it for a few months but i was watching bob rose on systm and i recognized the sipura box and the polycom phone |
| 09:03.59 | MuppetMaster | Hello |
| 09:04.04 | MuppetMaster | Anyone seen this video yet?: http://revision3.com/systm/asterisk/media |
| 09:04.13 | linlin2 | i was like wtf m8 i have those in that box over there |
| 09:04.20 | linlin2 | i hate bob rose |
| 09:04.38 | linlin2 | but i like that le looked liek a douchebag in that systm cause he had no clue what the guy was talknig about |
| 09:05.24 | linlin2 | what are poe standards |
| 09:05.31 | linlin2 | if anyone knows |
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| 09:11.43 | linlin2 | yay! |
| 09:11.44 | linlin2 | +--------- Asterisk Build Complete ---------+ |
| 09:11.44 | linlin2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:11.44 | linlin2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:11.44 | linlin2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:30.10 | Dio_ | hello! I would like to change bug "Category" for bug I've submitter few days ago. Is it possible? |
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| 09:36.14 | dudes | Dio_ - make a post and the moderator will change it (I think) |
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| 09:37.35 | Dio_ | where to post? Bug already submitted |
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| 09:46.33 | dudes | post where bug submitted |
| 09:50.11 | Dio_ | I see. thanks |
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| 09:54.21 | dudes | good |
| 09:54.32 | MasterObiWanK | Qwell, hello |
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| 09:56.45 | MasterObiW | Qwell, hello |
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| 10:29.20 | NewSole | Anyone Alive |
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| 10:48.52 | RoyKa | morning |
| 10:58.07 | linlin2 | i need a good free sip provider that will allow me to dial toll free numbers |
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| 11:04.44 | smirl | yes |
| 11:04.51 | smirl | linlin2 i can set you up an extension for that |
| 11:05.15 | linlin | what do yo mean |
| 11:05.22 | smirl | you have a SIP phone? |
| 11:05.26 | linlin | yes |
| 11:05.37 | linlin | i have a sipura 2000 |
| 11:05.38 | smirl | ok PMs |
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| 11:21.22 | backblue | hi, i have configured all the stuff for my x100p clone, but i dont understand on thing, how does asterisk knows that when it rins, it will have to pickup the call incoming in the fxo? |
| 11:21.35 | backblue | s/rins/rings |
| 11:22.39 | wasim | backblue: magic |
| 11:23.10 | wasim | backblue: specifically magic spells in zapata.conf and extensions.conf |
| 11:23.35 | backblue | wasim: i made that magic. :) |
| 11:23.39 | backblue | allready |
| 11:23.40 | backblue | :P |
| 11:23.56 | wasim | did you put the toadstool and lizard tails in |
| 11:23.59 | backblue | my asterisk knows the 2 cards, and they seems to work |
| 11:24.08 | tzafrir_laptop | asterisk -rvvv helps understanding the magic |
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| 11:25.14 | backblue | i will now try to call to DDI, and hope asterisk pickup the call. |
| 11:25.16 | backblue | brb |
| 11:26.37 | backblue | :/ does not pickup my call |
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| 11:27.01 | tzafrir_laptop | is a Zap channel created? |
| 11:27.25 | backblue | tzafrir_laptop: yes i have both channels when "zap show channels" |
| 11:27.54 | backblue | and i have this |
| 11:27.55 | backblue | exten => _X.,1,Answer |
| 11:27.55 | backblue | exten => _X.,2,Playback(invalid) |
| 11:27.55 | backblue | exten => _X.,3,Hangup |
| 11:28.14 | tzafrir_laptop | I mean: do you see a message of the sort of "new Zap switch" in the CLI after the ring? |
| 11:28.31 | backblue | in both context, for both channels |
| 11:28.49 | backblue | tzafrir_laptop: no |
| 11:28.55 | backblue | i dont see nothing. |
| 11:29.09 | backblue | when i do zap show channels, they are there |
| 11:29.21 | backblue | but it does not appear nothing about new zap switch |
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| 11:29.35 | *** join/#asterisk Aze` (i=Aze_@ppp-62-11-193-114.dialup.tiscali.it) |
| 11:33.44 | backblue | tzafrir_laptop: can you give me a hand? |
| 11:33.51 | backblue | wasim: or you? |
| 11:36.06 | *** join/#asterisk linlin (i=linlin@c-67-184-159-233.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 11:36.14 | smirl | do you have an IP i can SSH to your switch with? |
| 11:37.17 | backblue | ? |
| 11:37.24 | backblue | i died? :) |
| 11:37.45 | smirl | backblue do you have an IP i can SSH to your switch with? |
| 11:38.01 | smirl | i'll take a look |
| 11:38.30 | wasim | ~lart RoyK |
| 11:38.59 | wasim | touched by a white man! |
| 11:43.22 | backblue | what? |
| 11:43.46 | smirl | backblue is your server in a place where i could connect remotely to check your config? |
| 11:44.55 | backblue | smirl: no. |
| 11:45.01 | smirl | bummer |
| 11:45.07 | smirl | that would make it easy |
| 11:45.17 | smirl | can you put it in the DMZ on your router |
| 11:47.19 | backblue | no i cant |
| 11:47.39 | smirl | ok |
| 11:47.54 | smirl | nm then |
| 11:48.26 | backblue | where do i configure asterisk to awnser a call? |
| 11:48.32 | smirl | extensions.conf |
| 11:49.13 | *** join/#asterisk tzafrir_laptop (n=tzafrir@local.xorcom.com) |
| 11:49.36 | backblue | [context] |
| 11:49.37 | backblue | exten => _X.,1,Answer |
| 11:49.37 | backblue | exten => _X.,2,Playback(invalid) |
| 11:49.37 | backblue | exten => _X.,3,Hangup |
| 11:49.50 | backblue | should answer the call right? |
| 11:50.29 | RoyK | yes |
| 11:50.42 | RoyK | from where does the call come? |
| 11:50.46 | backblue | cont know whats appening then |
| 11:50.47 | RoyK | sip? iax? zap? |
| 11:50.51 | backblue | RoyK: zap |
| 11:50.58 | *** join/#asterisk trixter (n=trixter@65.172.209.246) |
| 11:51.09 | RoyK | backblue: what is context= set to in zapata.conf? |
| 11:51.13 | mutilator | heh |
| 11:51.16 | mutilator | my router is broken |
| 11:51.23 | mutilator | mrtg stopped yesterday at noon |
| 11:51.25 | backblue | RoyK: its set to [context] |
| 11:51.26 | RoyK | poor mutilator |
| 11:51.28 | mutilator | ERROR: Skipping webupdates because rateup did not return anything sensible |
| 11:51.28 | mutilator | WARNING: rateup died from Signal 0 |
| 11:51.28 | mutilator | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:51.37 | RoyK | backblue: no. what is context= set to? |
| 11:51.42 | RoyK | the context= line |
| 11:51.45 | mutilator | keeps throwin out that error |
| 11:51.55 | RoyK | [channels] |
| 11:51.55 | RoyK | context = zap_start |
| 11:51.56 | RoyK | for instance |
| 11:52.01 | backblue | yes |
| 11:52.12 | RoyK | yes? |
| 11:52.16 | backblue | like you |
| 11:52.17 | smirl | backblue: i was just gonna ask the same thing |
| 11:52.21 | backblue | i will paste in pastebin |
| 11:52.24 | backblue | its ok with you? |
| 11:52.30 | RoyK | 'how many roads must a man walk down'? yes! |
| 11:52.32 | smirl | paste your zapata.conf and your extensions.conf |
| 11:52.33 | RoyK | that's ok |
| 11:52.41 | RoyK | smirl: pastebin it... |
| 11:52.46 | RoyK | ~pb |
| 11:52.50 | backblue | RoyK: hehe, sorry the bad answer |
| 11:52.56 | smirl | yea, i didn't mean paste it here, pastebin |
| 11:53.04 | *** join/#asterisk tRSS (n=tRSS@202.174.142.2) |
| 11:53.28 | linlin | pastebin.ca |
| 11:53.52 | smirl | http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 11:56.35 | backblue | http://pastebin.com/479105 |
| 11:56.37 | smirl | i've been listening a long time :-o |
| 11:57.00 | backblue | i hope that explains my situation |
| 11:57.20 | RoyK | backblue: the calls from zap will be directed to [from-sip-external] in extensions.conf |
| 11:57.26 | RoyK | if that doesn't exist, they are hung up |
| 11:57.42 | RoyK | hm |
| 11:57.43 | RoyK | i think |
| 11:57.56 | RoyK | just a sec |
| 11:58.41 | smirl | i agree |
| 11:58.55 | backblue | RoyK: asterisk does not answer any of my calls |
| 11:59.03 | linlin | anyone know anything about polycom ip phones? |
| 12:00.05 | backblue | so i take this line "context=from-sip-external" off, and reload the asterisk, and it haves the same behavior |
| 12:00.10 | tRSS | linlin: what is it you want to know about polycom |
| 12:00.34 | RoyK | backblue: not reload |
| 12:00.40 | RoyK | backblue: zap needs a restart |
| 12:00.44 | linlin | how to power this thing...it apparently uses POE, but i dont have any of that hardware so i was going to gheeo one up |
| 12:00.48 | backblue | yes i made restart |
| 12:01.08 | backblue | and asterisk does not answer my calls anyway. |
| 12:01.09 | backblue | :/ |
| 12:01.20 | tRSS | linlin: mine came with all the pieces, so I am afraid I can't help you much |
| 12:01.29 | smirl | backblue: try this: http://pastebin.com/479108 |
| 12:01.47 | RoyK | backblue: try changing the global context= |
| 12:01.47 | RoyK | the fist one |
| 12:01.49 | backblue | so now http://pastebin.com/479109 |
| 12:01.54 | backblue | smirl: let me see. |
| 12:01.54 | smirl | linlin you either need a power over ethernet dc-injector |
| 12:02.11 | RoyK | ok |
| 12:02.33 | RoyK | backblue: sorry. we only use E1 links.... no analog stuff here |
| 12:03.04 | linlin | i want to just splice a cable and make one |
| 12:03.07 | smirl | linlin or you can try to make your own |
| 12:03.28 | linlin | but i need to know voltages, amperages, what pairs in the cat5 it puts the voltage on |
| 12:03.45 | linlin | i guess ill google,thought maybe someone here has done it |
| 12:04.03 | smirl | http://www.nycwireless.net/poe/ |
| 12:04.10 | backblue | smirl: # |
| 12:04.12 | backblue | [testdtmf] |
| 12:04.18 | backblue | will not be used |
| 12:04.24 | backblue | with that lines only. |
| 12:04.31 | smirl | ... |
| 12:04.36 | smirl | ? |
| 12:05.12 | backblue | you do not "route" nothing to that context |
| 12:05.17 | smirl | yes i do |
| 12:05.19 | backblue | only to [from-pstn] |
| 12:05.25 | backblue | in which line? |
| 12:05.29 | smirl | last line of from-pstn |
| 12:05.43 | backblue | howooo, does not seen that, sorry |
| 12:06.14 | backblue | smirl: where are you from? |
| 12:06.17 | tRSS | My asterisk is configured with a zultys MX250 IP telephony exchange. My asterisk authenticates users to make long distance outbound calls. But the problem is when a person calls my zultys and gets connected to my asterisk, the calls doesn't get hungup even after the person disconnects. PS: PSTN is terminated in Zultys and not asterisk, so: Analog PSTN ->Zultys -> Asterisk -> Authenticate -> Another Zultys -> Analog PSTN, help please! |
| 12:06.21 | smirl | portland, maine |
| 12:06.27 | backblue | should _NXXNXXXXXX be good for me? |
| 12:06.34 | smirl | i'm not sure |
| 12:06.35 | backblue | im in europe |
| 12:06.42 | smirl | i'd change it |
| 12:06.49 | smirl | sorry |
| 12:06.52 | backblue | ok |
| 12:07.04 | RoyK | _. |
| 12:07.07 | backblue | but there is no "answer every number" |
| 12:07.08 | smirl | yes |
| 12:07.09 | backblue | ? |
| 12:07.14 | RoyK | _. is answer anything |
| 12:07.15 | smirl | _. |
| 12:07.21 | RoyK | _X. is answer anything starting with a digit |
| 12:07.23 | backblue | so _.,.... |
| 12:07.29 | RoyK | ..--.. |
| 12:07.36 | backblue | ok for testing i will use _. |
| 12:07.38 | smirl | ---_--__-_*&&*)#()@#%(*)(@*5 |
| 12:07.40 | backblue | latter i will fix it |
| 12:07.40 | smirl | put that in |
| 12:07.46 | trixter | from what I hjave seen the last couple days _X. is the answer to everything |
| 12:07.46 | RoyK | -.. --- .-. -.- |
| 12:08.03 | RoyK | backblue: -.. --- .-. -.- |
| 12:08.59 | smirl | RoyK, .-.. --- .-.. / .-. --- -.-- -.- / .. / .-.. --- ...- . / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . |
| 12:09.46 | smirl | 01101000 01010001 01110100 11100011 01001110 01110111 11111101 10101010 00101101 01110000 10110110 00000010 00100011 |
| 12:09.46 | smirl | 01110010 10000111 00100001 10010011 10111000 |
| 12:09.47 | smirl | 10000001 11011010 01010110 11010111 01100111 00000001 10011101 10101010 01001110 10100001 01011110 11101010 |
| 12:10.04 | smirl | 8-> |
| 12:10.08 | backblue | it does not answer... |
| 12:10.15 | backblue | but it calls |
| 12:10.30 | smirl | hmm |
| 12:10.38 | smirl | can you pastebin your zaptel.conf ? |
| 12:11.19 | smirl | not sure what else could cause this |
| 12:11.25 | backblue | ok |
| 12:12.40 | tzafrir_laptop | zaptel.conf is probably irrelevant if calls manage to go out |
| 12:12.53 | smirl | probably |
| 12:12.59 | smirl | i just wanted to make sure he was using ks |
| 12:13.01 | wasim | zapata.conf and extensions.conf please |
| 12:13.08 | smirl | he already pasted them |
| 12:13.13 | smirl | there's nothing wrong |
| 12:13.22 | tzafrir_laptop | incoming FXO calls basically don't have a number. So the extension needs to be s |
| 12:13.32 | linlin | this damn phone wants 48volts |
| 12:13.36 | wasim | yep, s,1, |
| 12:13.43 | smirl | can't use _. ? with FXO ? |
| 12:13.48 | wasim | smirl: no |
| 12:13.56 | wasim | smirl: well, _. is bad in any case |
| 12:13.57 | smirl | oh backblue change it to s |
| 12:14.04 | wasim | smirl: coz that matches s,h,i |
| 12:14.33 | tzafrir_laptop | but this is bad logic |
| 12:14.36 | tRSS | lol, who is helping whom? Wasim is helping smirl and smirl is in turn helping backblue! |
| 12:15.14 | smirl | i'm still new @ this... i'm just trying to help... |
| 12:15.30 | wasim | smirl: we're all new at this ... its only a few years old |
| 12:15.43 | tzafrir_laptop | tRSS, as you can easily notice, you can learn a lot from helping here. I must say I have gained some experince that way... |
| 12:15.51 | smirl | i'm relatively new to *, but i've worked in telecom for a long time, and i know my PBX stuff |
| 12:16.16 | tRSS | tzafrir_laptop: I agree, and I am always here to offer any help, if anyone needs it |
| 12:16.20 | tzafrir_laptop | having more exprince on the Linux side and much less on the telecom side |
| 12:16.56 | smirl | i have lots of telecom and linux experience, both, * came really easy to me when i started... had my first system running in a few hours |
| 12:17.19 | smirl | and i'm usually good at troubleshooting anything |
| 12:17.33 | smirl | so even if i don't have a clue about what people ask, i'll offer to help lol |
| 12:17.58 | tRSS | smirl: same goes for me ! :) |
| 12:18.09 | smirl | well... as long as i have coffee and cigarettes |
| 12:18.19 | smirl | if i don't, then don't even talk to me |
| 12:18.47 | tRSS | lol |
| 12:18.51 | smirl | i'm unemployed from telecom recently, so i've decided to start selling asterisk based systems |
| 12:19.06 | smirl | i got fired for being late to work on an important day |
| 12:19.09 | smirl | and it wasn't my fault |
| 12:19.13 | wasim | smirl: its a growing fraternity, that :) |
| 12:20.10 | wasim | man, if they started firing people around here for being late, nobody would have a job |
| 12:20.48 | tRSS | guys, i have a quick question and I am wondering if any anyone can help me. so here goes my question: |
| 12:20.54 | tRSS | My asterisk is configured with a zultys MX250 IP telephony exchange. My asterisk authenticates users to make long distance outbound calls. But the problem is when a person calls my zultys and gets connected to my asterisk, the calls doesn't get hungup even after the person disconnects. PS: PSTN is terminated in Zultys and not asterisk, so: Analog PSTN ->Zultys -> Asterisk -> Authenticate -> Another Zultys -> Analog PSTN, help please! |
| 12:21.38 | wasim | tRSS: seems like buddy hangup detection code in the Zultys |
| 12:21.41 | smirl | i was amazed, i quoted someone a system the other day, if i was selling them a telrad switch of the same capacity, it would have easily been a $25,000 quote... this one was $2776 LOL |
| 12:21.46 | wasim | s/buddy/buggy |
| 12:22.06 | smirl | tRSS, agreed with wasim |
| 12:23.11 | mutilator | anyone here familiar with snmp on cisco routers? |
| 12:23.16 | smirl | mutilator yep |
| 12:23.44 | smirl | used it once or twice |
| 12:23.45 | mutilator | yesterday ~noon mrtg stopped gathering data for an interface on one of our routers |
| 12:23.46 | mutilator | ERROR: Skipping webupdates because rateup did not return anything sensible |
| 12:23.46 | mutilator | WARNING: rateup died from Signal 0 |
| 12:23.47 | mutilator | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:23.47 | mutilator | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:23.49 | mutilator | with that error |
| 12:23.57 | mutilator | no idea what it is |
| 12:24.12 | mutilator | every thread i find about it on the net has no replies to the question |
| 12:25.27 | smirl | mutilator, do you see anything having to do with libpng ? |
| 12:25.58 | mutilator | ya |
| 12:26.07 | mutilator | but i have like 30 other graphs going fine |
| 12:26.39 | smirl | oh |
| 12:26.52 | smirl | rpm -e --nodeps libpng10 |
| 12:26.52 | smirl | cd /usr/lib |
| 12:26.52 | smirl | ln -s libpng.so.3 libpng.so.2 |
| 12:27.01 | mutilator | it's a windows box |
| 12:27.10 | smirl | k |
| 12:27.20 | backblue | wasim: so i must chane _.,... to what? |
| 12:27.46 | linlin | oh well, i blew up the polycom phone |
| 12:28.23 | linlin | now i sleep |
| 12:29.07 | tRSS | linlin: good night man! |
| 12:30.40 | smirl | lol |
| 12:31.09 | wasim | backblue: s,1, |
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| 12:34.49 | smirl | mutilator, could it be a permissions problem, where's it not able to write the log? |
| 12:35.12 | backblue | wasim: ok tks. |
| 12:35.19 | backblue | i think my tones, are not correct |
| 12:35.25 | backblue | defaultzone= is set to us |
| 12:35.35 | backblue | and im in portugal but i cant find zone pt |
| 12:37.12 | mutilator | yea it can write to it |
| 12:37.20 | backblue | wasim: why s,1? |
| 12:38.41 | smirl | mutilator, has the cisco config changed at all? you might try reloading a backup of the config |
| 12:39.14 | mutilator | nope hasn't changed |
| 12:39.29 | smirl | backblue, at au cl es fi fr gr it jp nl no nz pl tw uk us us-old |
| 12:39.42 | smirl | backblue, maybe es ? |
| 12:39.49 | smirl | i'm guessing that's spain |
| 12:40.28 | smirl | mutilator, dunno sorry :-[ |
| 12:45.47 | backblue | smirl: no, if you edit zonedata.c in zaptel driver, it exists pt entry now. in 1.2.x |
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| 12:53.39 | backblue | smirl: http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/pri_zaptel.html |
| 12:53.45 | backblue | there it is. |
| 12:53.53 | backblue | portugal its there. |
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| 13:20.07 | smirl | I"M SO HAPPY |
| 13:20.36 | smirl | i just got to Gline a stupid pollock fuck face from my IRC network |
| 13:20.47 | smirl | i don't get to Gline people to often |
| 13:20.53 | smirl | and i'm easily amused |
| 13:21.00 | tzanger | yes, yes you are :-) |
| 13:21.19 | Seba_soy | hello |
| 13:21.29 | tzanger | damn it's quite icy out there, the drive should be interesting |
| 13:21.34 | smirl | this retard came to my irc network wondering how to buy one of my video game addons |
| 13:21.34 | Seba_soy | who knows what port range asterisk manager uses? |
| 13:21.47 | smirl | and he didn't know how to use paypal... |
| 13:22.14 | smirl | so i start to explain, then he starts to tell me why he thinks he shouldn't buy my addon because any shitty programmer can make one themselves... |
| 13:22.16 | fugitivo | Seba_soy: you configure that |
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| 13:22.19 | tzanger | ahh so you make a habit out of humiliating and getting rid of potential customers |
| 13:22.22 | fugitivo | Seba_soy: /etc/asterisk/manager.conf |
| 13:22.28 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 13:22.44 | smirl | he asks what language it's written in, he asks , ASM? |
| 13:23.09 | smirl | i'm like... no... it's mostly unrealscript (which is the native language for the unreal engine) |
| 13:23.26 | Seba_soy | fugitivo: it is BIND PORT, I want to know what port range asterisk uses to send events to all logged ip addresses |
| 13:23.43 | smirl | then i explain that there are different parts of the program, it's written with alot of different languages actually, VB.NET, UnrealScript, PHP, SQL... |
| 13:23.56 | smirl | and he starts to tell me how PHP has soo many bugs |
| 13:24.00 | smirl | and how unsecure it is |
| 13:24.17 | smirl | then he's like, "This conversation is over" |
| 13:24.22 | smirl | "Say goodbye to your IRC channel |
| 13:24.45 | smirl | [08:13] -irc.smirl.com- *** Permanent G:Line added for *@dys113.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl on Mon Dec 26 13:49:10 2005 GMT (from Reverend!owned@my.vrod.is.fast: no reason) |
| 13:24.45 | smirl | - |
| 13:24.46 | smirl | [08:13] -irc.smirl.com- *** Notice -- Client exiting: kowalscy-ahL (neok@dys113.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) [User has been permanently banned from SMiRLnet (no reason)] |
| 13:24.47 | fugitivo | Seba_soy: outgoing ports? |
| 13:25.00 | smirl | god that felt so good |
| 13:25.40 | Seba_soy | fugitivo: yes... |
| 13:25.51 | fugitivo | Seba_soy: no idea, check the code |
| 13:25.59 | Seba_soy | fugitivo: I want to redirect those port to my pc.. because NAT :) |
| 13:38.58 | sangee | asterisk (digium card) supports NTT? |
| 13:41.15 | *** part/#asterisk loftcity (n=loftcity@pcp0011755134pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net) |
| 13:47.43 | trixter | sangee: for a good time ask benjk that question |
| 13:47.55 | *** join/#asterisk Shoragan (n=shoragan@d072.apm.etc.tu-bs.de) |
| 13:49.24 | mutilator | game addons.. |
| 13:49.33 | mutilator | yea, i'de imagine that'de happen more often.. |
| 13:52.16 | trixter | sangee: well benjk didnt respond ... some have support for J1s some dont. Of the ones that do they arent JATE approved |
| 13:53.17 | smirl | mutilator; most of my clients for our gaming mods are kids who have to get mommy's permission to buy it... and some of the kids these days are so damn mouthy and they think they know everything |
| 13:54.01 | mutilator | yep |
| 14:02.46 | mutilator | man i should make an activation number for these voip phones |
| 14:02.59 | mutilator | so it changes their service status on the website automatically when they're installed |
| 14:06.41 | razu | hi ... can anyone help me with manager interface and php ? |
| 14:07.06 | smirl | razu, maybe |
| 14:07.45 | razu | well ... i'm trying to get ExtensionState out of the manager |
| 14:07.47 | razu | but |
| 14:08.01 | razu | i get -> Response: Error ------- |
| 14:08.01 | razu | Message: Extension not specified |
| 14:08.30 | razu | Although i think i have the php stuff right ... |
| 14:08.33 | smirl | sounds like you didn't specify the extension you want the status of |
| 14:08.50 | razu | i have these lines for it |
| 14:09.08 | razu | fputs($socket, "Action: ExtensionState\r\n\r\n"); |
| 14:09.08 | razu | fputs($socket, "Context: class5\r\n\r\n"); |
| 14:09.08 | razu | fputs($socket, "Exten: 6661067\r\n\r\n"); |
| 14:09.08 | razu | fputs($socket, "ActionID: 1\r\n\r\n"); |
| 14:09.37 | razu | or do i have to put 1 action to 1 insert to socket ? |
| 14:10.00 | razu | so the action, context, exten and actionid will be 1 insert ? |
| 14:10.11 | smirl | not sure about that |
| 14:10.34 | razu | so what could be the problem ? |
| 14:10.42 | nextime | razu : i don't use manager, but if i can remember, you must use only one \r\n for lines, ad append another one \r\n at the end |
| 14:10.47 | nextime | so: |
| 14:10.52 | nextime | fputs($socket, "Action: ExtensionState\r\n"); |
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| 14:10.58 | nextime | fputs($socket, "Context: class5\r\n"); |
| 14:11.03 | nextime | fputs($socket, "Exten: 6661067\r\n"); |
| 14:11.06 | nextime | fputs($socket, "ActionID: 1\r\n\r\n"); |
| 14:11.11 | trixter | a blank line by itself typically indicates end of grouping of commands |
| 14:11.33 | razu | lol |
| 14:11.37 | razu | thanks a lot guys |
| 14:11.38 | razu | :) |
| 14:11.49 | smirl | i would say that looks right, with the double \r\n , it's ending the group |
| 14:12.04 | razu | yea ... now i get it :) thx :))))) |
| 14:14.32 | *** join/#asterisk Oryn (i=oryn@falcore.fsck.tv) |
| 14:15.28 | Oryn | does anyone here use the linux version of iaxcomm? |
| 14:15.55 | tzafrir_laptop | me |
| 14:16.13 | tzafrir_laptop | Though mostly for testing and not as a real client |
| 14:16.19 | Oryn | I cant get it to answer calls |
| 14:16.41 | tzafrir_laptop | press (just once) on the line of the incoming call |
| 14:17.00 | Oryn | in the help file it says click once on the incoming call, but nothing happens |
| 14:17.06 | tzafrir_laptop | pressing twice (e.g: double-clicking) will also hang it up |
| 14:17.13 | *** join/#asterisk riddlebox (n=james@24-171-11-166.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 14:17.18 | Oryn | it does that |
| 14:17.31 | Oryn | it just doesn't answer |
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| 14:17.40 | riddlebox | is anyone using broadvoice with asterisk? |
| 14:18.37 | yacine64 | Smirl, can u read the pm please |
| 14:19.02 | smirl | yacine64, i have no PM's from you |
| 14:19.09 | smirl | i don't think i ever get PM's from you |
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| 14:22.14 | yacine64 | Do u have any extar parameters on ur asterisk server or in sip.conf, cause the ip phone i'm using with ur server works great with urs and with mine, all other sip phones i tried with my asterisk work for me and not with this one |
| 14:22.58 | yacine64 | i mean that it does not register with my asterisk server |
| 14:24.42 | yacine64 | Smirl |
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| 14:27.07 | trixter | gotta loe ice storms |
| 14:27.13 | trixter | er love |
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| 14:30.50 | smirl | yacine64, try nat=yes |
| 14:31.21 | smirl | your sip.conf is probably not right somehow |
| 14:33.16 | yacine64 | my asterisk and my ip phone are in the same network, other phones works fine and not with this one |
| 14:33.42 | yacine64 | so i'm surprised how it can work with urs even that the phone is behind a nat now |
| 14:34.45 | smirl | hmm |
| 14:34.55 | smirl | i'll show you my sip.conf |
| 14:35.02 | smirl | gotta be a sec to remove passwords |
| 14:35.12 | riddlebox | is anyone using broadvoice? |
| 14:36.46 | yacine64 | ok |
| 14:38.44 | ManxPower | For those people that I have helped over the past three years: http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/gimme.cgi?wid=81d21ef90 |
| 14:40.06 | smirl | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/G4BdXn75.html |
| 14:40.57 | yacine64 | ok thanks, i'm checking it :) |
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| 14:48.33 | Bobby_Ewing | hi all |
| 14:48.41 | Bobby_Ewing | is anyone around? |
| 14:48.57 | riddlebox | can someone help me configure asterisk to use broadvoice? |
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| 14:52.46 | Bobby_Ewing | i have a problem and i'm sure it's something trivial, but my phones can make calls, but not receive... |
| 14:52.51 | Bobby_Ewing | i have type=friend in sip.conf |
| 14:53.25 | Bobby_Ewing | they are all behind nat, but they used to work fine. i reinstalled asterisk (to asterisk@home) yesterday.. and i can't remember what I need to set to get them working |
| 14:55.07 | NewSole | Anyone Alive who can help with "WARNING[5909]: channel.c:803 channel_find_locked: Avoided initial deadlock for '0x81d6e78', 10 retries!" |
| 14:57.48 | trixter | NewSole: its an informational message, afaik it doesnt really harm anything |
| 14:59.16 | NewSole | on every sip call |
| 15:01.35 | backblue | ZAPHFC anyone with this? |
| 15:03.04 | riddlebox | NewSole: I have the same prob with broadvoice |
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| 15:03.29 | tzafrir_laptop | sort of. I'd like folks to test how the latest genzaptelconf does with zaphfc |
| 15:03.35 | Bobby_Ewing | does anyone have a working cisco config for sip.conf i could compare mine with? |
| 15:03.50 | Bobby_Ewing | I'm not sure what I've done wrong.. I'm sure it's something simple affecting it |
| 15:03.58 | Bobby_Ewing | but my phones dont ring when I call them, but can make calls fine |
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| 15:04.53 | NewSole | we had same problem Bobby_Ewing |
| 15:05.11 | tzafrir_laptop | backblue, http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-voip/zaptel/trunk/debian/genzaptelconf?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 . There is also a man pagein the same directory |
| 15:05.28 | NewSole | but with sipra/linksys... but they are cisco too |
| 15:06.02 | NewSole | s/sipra/sipura |
| 15:08.01 | riddlebox | NewSole:you are using the sipura, what voip provider are you using? |
| 15:08.35 | riddlebox | this is the error I am getting: |
| 15:08.41 | riddlebox | chan_sip.c:9527 handle_response_invite: Forbidden - wrong password on authentication for INVITE to '"523" <sip:523@24.171.11.166>;tag=as060f3899' |
| 15:09.38 | Bobby_Ewing | NewSole: i'm sure it's something simple, like type=user or peer instead of friend, or something trivial |
| 15:09.41 | Bobby_Ewing | but I dont know what |
| 15:09.45 | file | riddlebox: you're the one who is trying to call through broadvoice aren't you? |
| 15:10.01 | riddlebox | yes, make and recieve calls |
| 15:10.30 | file | did you follow the broadvoice instructions exactly? |
| 15:10.39 | riddlebox | yes |
| 15:10.50 | NewSole | yes riddlebox... I am my own provider |
| 15:11.01 | file | are you sure? |
| 15:11.19 | file | if you had, your URI would have been different |
| 15:11.28 | riddlebox | thats what I dont understand |
| 15:11.30 | file | so I know it's not exactly as the broadvocie site says |
| 15:11.49 | file | because they have fromuser which is supposed to be your phone number, and on the URI up above it's 523 which is incorrect |
| 15:12.13 | trixter | riddlebox: he is hius own provider, he owns a global network of telephone links and directly connects to all carriers that he routes calls to. not a cheap network but for home use you cant beat its quality :P |
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| 15:13.06 | riddlebox | file:I have that line, fromuser=myphone |
| 15:13.15 | file | well then your dial line isn't using the peer entry |
| 15:13.46 | NewSole | riddlebox... reset device to factory default and just enter username and pass and go from there |
| 15:14.03 | file | he's configuring Asterisk |
| 15:14.07 | NewSole | or better yet use the sipura config wiz |
| 15:14.13 | file | to talk to Broadvoice |
| 15:14.18 | NewSole | ahh |
| 15:14.45 | riddlebox | NewSole:once I get xlite working then I will convert my sipura |
| 15:14.55 | NewSole | sorry my bad... was up late last nite making changes to main server wile no trafic |
| 15:14.56 | trixter | I actually have a script to add broadvoice accounts |
| 15:15.05 | trixter | its quick, simple and in bourne shell so highly portable |
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| 15:16.31 | riddlebox | trixter:can you email it to me? |
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| 15:19.19 | trixter | no I cant |
| 15:19.23 | trixter | I dont know your email address |
| 15:20.21 | trixter | http://www.trxtel.com/addbv |
| 15:20.34 | trixter | its not a high quality script but it has worked for several people to day |
| 15:20.36 | trixter | er to date |
| 15:21.21 | trixter | it works off the premise that you have an /etc/asterisk/includes dir and in sip.conf you #include "includes/sip-providers" |
| 15:22.08 | riddlebox | can you use bv to make and recieve calls? |
| 15:22.16 | trixter | it really is based off broadvoices config, infact I think it is their config with substitution for variables and what not |
| 15:22.27 | trixter | yes you can use BV to make and receive calls |
| 15:22.28 | riddlebox | I see that |
| 15:24.54 | riddlebox | the context=default, do I change that to be incoming, or leave it? |
| 15:30.02 | trixter | upto you |
| 15:30.33 | trixter | that script was written for call file stuff at one point so it was never used for anything but outgoing calls so default wasnt a bad context to toss it into |
| 15:30.38 | trixter | your use appears to be slightly different |
| 15:31.22 | riddlebox | trixter:so do you setup two contexts for bv then, one incoming and one outgoing? |
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| 15:33.16 | Bobby_Ewing | I've a sipura 3000 and I'm trying to setup a "trunk" for outbound calls to go through.. Could anyone lend a hand as to how I do this? I've forgotten how I did it before and my backup file corrupted so I'm having to rebuild everything rather than re-paste. I'm using *@home |
| 15:33.21 | trixter | explain how the outgoing one would work |
| 15:33.30 | trixter | because I dont think you are thinking about this correctly |
| 15:33.45 | riddlebox | trixter:I probably am not |
| 15:34.36 | trixter | if a call comes in from broadvoice it will will use a specific context, hwoever if any context does a dial(sip/sip.broadvoice.com/12345) or whatever then that context can use BV to make outgoing calls |
| 15:35.30 | trixter | so for the provider itself you dont need an outgoing one for that provider, instead you need a context for your phone so it can dial what you want it to dial |
| 15:35.33 | trixter | make sense? |
| 15:35.40 | riddlebox | the 12345 is that the phone number or my extension? |
| 15:37.16 | riddlebox | trixter:by phone number, I mean my phone number for bv |
| 15:41.21 | trixter | is the phone number you wuold dial thruogh broadvoice |
| 15:41.34 | trixter | so your phone needs to have a dial entry that will use broadvoice somehow |
| 15:42.11 | riddlebox | I see |
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| 15:42.26 | trixter | but broadvoice itself doesnt need a outgoing context per se because it will never send calls out, generally.. your phone will send calls to broadvoice |
| 15:42.49 | riddlebox | yeah |
| 15:42.56 | trixter | so you receive calls from broadvoice, and you need a context to handle that, your phone will send calls to asterisk which needs to be able to dial using broadvoice |
| 15:43.11 | trixter | the same generally applies to any provider |
| 15:43.23 | riddlebox | yeah, thats what I thought |
| 15:43.39 | mutilator | anyone here used total control 1000 modem banks? i get a lot of users that get lost carriers from it compared to when they use our port masters... wondering if i have some kinda config problem |
| 15:43.43 | riddlebox | trixter, can I paste my sip.conf and extensions.conf in pastebin so you can see them? |
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| 15:47.02 | trixter | yes you can, that doesnt guarantee I will look :P |
| 15:47.09 | trixter | what is it that you want me to look at? |
| 15:47.27 | trixter | ie what problem needs to be solved now |
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| 15:51.47 | gniretar | hello everybody!! |
| 15:52.12 | NewSole | sorry folks.... went snoozing |
| 15:52.40 | gniretar | hey so what is so bad about AGI |
| 15:52.45 | gniretar | and what is a good alternative? |
| 15:53.06 | riddlebox | trixter:I have screwed something up and I am hoping a fresh pair of eyes that know what they are doing will see the problem |
| 15:53.25 | riddlebox | trixter: http://pastebin.com/479256 |
| 15:54.04 | mrdigital | Can an ordinary Modem be used in *? |
| 15:54.18 | gniretar | mrdigital: Almost any hard modem can be used in * |
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| 15:54.34 | mrdigital | gniretar: how would a 56k modem be used in *? |
| 15:54.44 | gniretar | mrdigital: If its a soft modem when dont even bother trying. It may be possable but its not worth it |
| 15:54.52 | coppice | gniretar: how exactly? |
| 15:54.57 | gambolputty | nothings wrong with AEL |
| 15:55.00 | gambolputty | works just fine for me |
| 15:55.13 | gniretar | mrdigital: Is it a hard modem or a soft modem (if u dont know juet tell me what kind it is) |
| 15:55.14 | mrdigital | a pci modem = hard modem right? |
| 15:55.19 | gniretar | er, no |
| 15:55.21 | gniretar | what kind is it? |
| 15:55.32 | mrdigital | tis not a winmodem |
| 15:55.38 | mrdigital | its linux too |
| 15:55.49 | mrdigital | its a d-link i think |
| 15:56.07 | gniretar | its prolly a sofware modem |
| 15:56.12 | gniretar | http://linmodems.org/ |
| 15:56.31 | gniretar | i dont recommend spending too much time on getting that working though |
| 15:56.33 | coppice | hard modems are of little use with *. they used to offer limited service for things like IVRs. now chan_modem which drove them has been removed from * |
| 15:56.40 | _Thor | Hi guys, do you mean to use a modem as an fxo port? |
| 15:57.17 | gniretar | hmm, thanks coppoce, i didnt know that chan_modem was gone |
| 15:57.24 | gniretar | why would they remove it? |
| 15:57.37 | coppice | because it was almost useless |
| 15:58.06 | gniretar | hmm, i used it for failover lines |
| 15:58.18 | gniretar | if the PRI sent doen the analogue would come up |
| 15:58.26 | coppice | it only worked half duplex |
| 15:58.31 | Katty | miow. |
| 15:58.42 | mrdigital | can a 56k modem do music on hold? |
| 15:58.47 | ManxPower | As far as I can tell chan_modem was written by a group of drunk college kids over spring break and never looked at again. |
| 15:58.57 | gniretar | mrdigital: if u want to do analogue get the TDM400p |
| 15:59.03 | mrdigital | k |
| 15:59.10 | Katty | mew? |
| 15:59.15 | mrdigital | meow? |
| 15:59.52 | coppice | ManxPower: I imagine it was written for something like answering machine, or IVR use |
| 15:59.57 | gniretar | what is the use of the TDM2400P? |
| 16:00.06 | ManxPower | coppice, *nod* |
| 16:00.07 | gniretar | is it for people who dont wanna buy a channel bank? |
| 16:00.32 | Katty | mew :< |
| 16:02.50 | trixter | gambolputty nothings wrong with AEL -- you cant include other files that is at least one thing wrong :P |
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| 16:03.16 | gniretar | man, a TDM2400P full of FXS ports would draw a shit ton of juics |
| 16:03.22 | gambolputty | that will be the next fix then |
| 16:03.28 | gniretar | i dont think i'd want somthing that heavy in my conputer |
| 16:03.38 | gniretar | i <3 my channel bank thankee |
| 16:04.14 | gniretar | mrdigital: This is what you want for your analogue stuff: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=product_detail&category=hardware&product=TDM400P |
| 16:04.28 | coppice | it shoule be OK in a computer, but i'd leave the next slot clear, or have lots of airflow |
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| 16:05.22 | trixter | I have a blower fan on my wood burning stove, to save power I decided to use that fan to blow air into my system to keep up the airflow. Just duct it right in |
| 16:05.32 | trixter | stove only gets upto 1100 degrees normally |
| 16:05.33 | gniretar | coppice: I know, but it just seems wrong. I dont like it. I feel much better having my channel bank doing all the high voltage work |
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| 16:05.55 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o anthm] by ChanServ |
| 16:06.52 | coppice | i've used lots of the 12 and 24 channel dialogic cards. they don't cause any trouble, but the stupid things demand an external power supply |
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| 16:07.13 | coppice | or rather the FXS ones do |
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| 16:10.45 | [TK]D-Fender | Question : I'm on a real low powered PC running Win98 and X-Lite with GSM is pretty choppy. Is there a better codec as far as CPU is concerned (my mother on dial-up is fine with GSM) for both bandwidth and CPU? |
| 16:11.13 | riddlebox | trixter: have you had a chance to look at that pastebin? |
| 16:12.07 | gniretar | i like GSM usually |
| 16:12.12 | coppice | GSM has the lowest compute demand of the low bit rate codecs |
| 16:12.21 | file | [TK]D-Fender: you did turn on transmit silence, right? |
| 16:12.26 | _Thor | Coppice: Do you use dialogic cards instead of FXO ports? |
| 16:12.34 | gniretar | unless ur sorting like a 486 your computer shouldnt be taxed by GSM |
| 16:12.37 | [TK]D-Fender | file : don't think I did.... |
| 16:13.03 | file | Markkkkkkkoolio! |
| 16:13.17 | gniretar | file: ??? |
| 16:13.38 | Tili | do we have ARM as one of codecs in asterisk |
| 16:13.58 | file | ARM? eh? that's a CPU architecture |
| 16:14.40 | Tili | file: no ARM is a codec also. used in mobile phones |
| 16:14.41 | [TK]D-Fender | this is perhaps a Pentium 1 (200mhz at best... |
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| 16:14.47 | Tili | file: typically its available in symbian phones |
| 16:15.02 | trixter | riddlebox: no, what exactly is the problem you are having? |
| 16:15.18 | file | Tili: yeah like no... doubt that'll ever appear lol |
| 16:15.22 | riddlebox | I cannot get a call to go out, or one to come in |
| 16:15.36 | yacine64 | i'm not able to make my ip phone registred on my asterisk server while other phones can |
| 16:15.49 | yacine64 | and this the debug |
| 16:15.51 | yacine64 | Transmitting (no NAT): |
| 16:15.51 | yacine64 | SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized |
| 16:15.51 | yacine64 | Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.0.136;branch=z9hG4bKe5cdac4f528bc264 |
| 16:15.51 | yacine64 | From: "IPPH202C" <sip:202@192.168.0.148;user=phone>;tag=ddf356b242948e19 |
| 16:15.51 | yacine64 | To: <sip:202@192.168.0.148;user=phone>;tag=as60784123 |
| 16:15.52 | yacine64 | Call-ID: a89c35fff00703ca@192.168.0.136 |
| 16:15.54 | yacine64 | CSeq: 100 REGISTER |
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| 16:15.56 | yacine64 | User-Agent: Asterisk PBX |
| 16:15.58 | yacine64 | Allow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, OPTIONS, BYE, REFER |
| 16:16.00 | yacine64 | Contact: <sip:202@192.168.0.148> |
| 16:16.02 | yacine64 | WWW-Authenticate: Digest realm="asterisk", nonce="63e7bde9" |
| 16:16.04 | yacine64 | Content-Length: 0 |
| 16:16.05 | riddlebox | trixter: I cannot get a call to go out, or one to come in |
| 16:16.24 | Tili | but if we have wrappers for G.729 or g7231, i wonder why it doesn't have ARM |
| 16:16.40 | file | Tili: nothing supports it for one thing |
| 16:16.40 | a1fa | yacine64: firewall? |
| 16:16.46 | [TK]D-Fender | File : I can't even FIND silence detection in this thing... |
| 16:16.57 | file | [TK]D-Fender: they call it "Transmit Silence" it's in the audio settings |
| 16:17.04 | yacine64 | no, asteriesk and my ip phone are on the same network |
| 16:17.33 | Tili | i guess i will have to code it to see how it works. Codecs was the part I never wanted to touch in Asterisk. |
| 16:17.34 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, I jsut set it to "yes" |
| 16:17.39 | Tili | i guess i am not so lucky |
| 16:17.54 | file | Tili: yeah good luck with that |
| 16:18.30 | Tili | so how is chan_ss7 going |
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| 16:21.19 | [TK]D-Fender | DAmmit still choppy as hell... |
| 16:21.41 | file | [TK]D-Fender: stab someone |
| 16:22.05 | [TK]D-Fender | I'd rather just change the computer... they're kinda family you know... |
| 16:22.19 | *** join/#asterisk florz (n=florz@2001:1a50:503c:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 16:22.32 | file | bah, family |
| 16:23.03 | a1fa | transmit silence |
| 16:23.10 | a1fa | where do you set that |
| 16:28.01 | trixter | http://www.voip-articles.com/archive/2005/12/26/uk_based_i-voipcouk_launches_voip_comparison_service.html UK Based I-VoIP.co.uk launches VoIPComparison Service |
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| 16:29.25 | [TK]D-Fender | ugh... almost ready to give up. checking the wiki for some sign of hope for this PC.... |
| 16:30.37 | file | [TK]D-Fender: woot giving up |
| 16:33.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Anyone got a quick link for codec CPU consumption comparisons? |
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| 16:34.45 | a1fa | i was lookin gfor that too the other day |
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| 16:37.54 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : hows your setup going? |
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| 16:45.34 | a1fa | its good man |
| 16:45.41 | a1fa | i cant enjoy it today.. i am in pain |
| 16:45.46 | a1fa | i fell of a motorcycle last night |
| 16:46.06 | a1fa | i'm all bruised up.. my knees have roadrash |
| 16:46.25 | a1fa | my hands hurt from absorbing the impact |
| 16:46.39 | a1fa | and my shoulder is in pain.. |
| 16:46.49 | a1fa | i had no jacket, no pants, no gloves, and no helmet |
| 16:46.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Thats why they call them "donor-cycles"... |
| 16:47.00 | a1fa | and i was going 30mph :( |
| 16:47.29 | jontow | 30mph still hurts like a bastard.. |
| 16:47.41 | jontow | they don't say 'wear full-coverage clothing, preferrably leather' for nothing |
| 16:48.25 | [TK]D-Fender | And we're not talking lamb-skin leather here either... |
| 16:48.31 | jontow | yep |
| 16:48.43 | jontow | it looks goofy; but man, so does roadrash :( |
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| 16:49.36 | a1fa | yup |
| 16:49.40 | a1fa | i am kind a pissed off |
| 16:49.41 | a1fa | ;( |
| 16:49.45 | a1fa | i fell for no reason |
| 16:49.54 | a1fa | it just slipped from under me |
| 16:50.00 | a1fa | the bike skidded 10ft |
| 16:50.39 | NewSole | anyone in Toronto Ontario here |
| 16:51.24 | NewSole | or Anyone heard of a Calling card.... Loonie Call |
| 16:52.29 | ManxPower | Loonie Call? That sure sounds Canadian. 8-) |
| 16:52.40 | *** join/#asterisk BugKham (i=BugKham@61.47.108.39) |
| 16:53.29 | BugKham | which is a more stable version of * |
| 16:53.40 | BugKham | the svn or the 1.2.1? |
| 16:53.53 | NewSole | yes well they are printing our DID's on Their cards and selling them... and The Customers are calling us complaining |
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| 16:55.11 | [TK]D-Fender | SUE THEIR ASSES OFF |
| 16:55.26 | NewSole | We Plan too |
| 16:55.40 | NewSole | just checking if someone in here was running it |
| 16:55.41 | kuku5 | sue who ? |
| 16:55.49 | kuku5 | for what |
| 16:56.32 | NewSole | the owners of loonie call |
| 16:57.13 | ManxPower | What are the customers trying to do? |
| 16:57.38 | ManxPower | Can't you disable the DIDs or send them to a message saying exactly what you think about Loonie Call? |
| 16:58.17 | NewSole | we gave that number to a customer already |
| 16:58.34 | ManxPower | Call the CRTC? |
| 16:59.02 | NewSole | yes but we had no proof only customers calls |
| 16:59.27 | NewSole | now we have a contact number |
| 17:00.19 | BugKham | any comparison between SVN-trunk and 1.2.1 versions? |
| 17:01.19 | a1fa | i am sure there is a change log |
| 17:01.19 | a1fa | :P |
| 17:01.48 | BugKham | a1fa: which is the later one generally |
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| 17:03.03 | ManxPower | BugKham, 1.2.x should not ever be broken. SVN-trunk can be broken it's not a priority to make sure it's not, |
| 17:04.31 | ManxPower | i.e. SVN-trunk gets experimental code that is not fully tested or debugged. |
| 17:05.19 | drumkilla | should be broken less, anyway |
| 17:05.29 | drumkilla | since it receives *only* changes that are considered bug fixes |
| 17:05.40 | drumkilla | no architectural changes or feature enhancements ... |
| 17:05.46 | BugKham | ManxPower: i see, thanks for your answer |
| 17:06.48 | *** part/#asterisk a1fa (n=a1fa@24.144.51.32) |
| 17:07.02 | BugKham | drumkilla: I tried both but can't see any differences |
| 17:07.18 | drumkilla | well, since 1.2 is so new, it's not very different at this point |
| 17:07.27 | drumkilla | there are some new features in the trunk that are not in 1.2 |
| 17:07.39 | drumkilla | but there have not been any major changes yet |
| 17:08.23 | drumkilla | but we recommend that everyone use the release branch for production use |
| 17:08.31 | drumkilla | and only use the trunk if taking part in testing/development |
| 17:08.38 | BugKham | drumkilla: okay |
| 17:08.53 | ManxPower | And if people start using trunk in production it never will have major changes. |
| 17:09.12 | drumkilla | yep, give us the freedom to tear it apart! :D |
| 17:09.26 | ManxPower | like CVS-HEAD used to be |
| 17:09.48 | drumkilla | things are going to change in that respect |
| 17:10.03 | BugKham | ManxPower: why did they change from CVS-Head to SVN by the way |
| 17:10.17 | drumkilla | BugKham: about a month ago |
| 17:10.18 | ManxPower | drumkilla, break trunk in a major way once or twice a week and nobody will use it in production |
| 17:10.24 | drumkilla | hehe |
| 17:10.44 | ManxPower | I'm serious |
| 17:10.48 | drumkilla | ManxPower: we have had discussions about making the release branch the priority when dealing with issues on the bug tracker |
| 17:10.58 | _Sam-- | how do i upgrade my modules when going from 1.0 to 1.2: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_modem.so etc ? |
| 17:10.58 | drumkilla | require that it get fixed in the release branch first ... that kind of thing |
| 17:11.18 | ManxPower | _Sam--, chan_modem is not built in 1.2, AFIK |
| 17:11.30 | drumkilla | correct, it is not built by default |
| 17:11.38 | ManxPower | _Sam--, read UPGRADE.txt |
| 17:11.45 | drumkilla | you have to edit channels/Makefile to have it built |
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| 17:12.42 | _Sam-- | if i dont think i need it, i probably dont? |
| 17:12.45 | _Sam-- | i dont think i need chan_modem |
| 17:13.18 | drumkilla | probably not. |
| 17:13.29 | drumkilla | you should delete everything from your modules directory before installing 1.2 |
| 17:13.56 | _Sam-- | thanks will do that now |
| 17:14.25 | Corydon-w | drumkilla: I don't think I need res_adsi.so... oops... |
| 17:14.41 | ManxPower | except for things like the G729 module. |
| 17:14.59 | ManxPower | I wish I could figure out how to turn off ADSI on voicemail. |
| 17:16.22 | _Sam-- | nice Connected to Asterisk 1.2.1 |
| 17:17.03 | _Sam-- | there is no problem with using old music on hold style? |
| 17:17.14 | ManxPower | _Sam--, "make install" in 1.2 will list modules that should be removed. |
| 17:17.21 | drumkilla | ManxPower: there are patches in the tracker to remove that dependency |
| 17:18.11 | ManxPower | drumkilla, ADSI? cool. I should add that feature to my 1.2.3BTEL patches list. |
| 17:18.29 | drumkilla | yep |
| 17:18.44 | drumkilla | Corydon-w: want to review my originate CLI command? :) |
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| 17:19.41 | Corydon-w | drumkilla: busy |
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| 17:19.54 | drumkilla | ok :) |
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| 17:21.47 | dlippolt | noob question: does app_conference work in an AMP controlled asterisk environment |
| 17:22.30 | znoG | how can one get the call duration from a DEADAGI script? is it stored in a variable that can be read' from the .agi script? |
| 17:22.44 | drumkilla | DIALEDTIME i think ... |
| 17:22.57 | znoG | ah, it's not set if you call AGI.. only if its DEADAGI, right? |
| 17:23.35 | drumkilla | most likely, yes ... i'd have to look |
| 17:23.44 | drumkilla | but it's not set until after the call is disconnected |
| 17:24.01 | znoG | thanks drumkilla, i'm gonna check out what variables are set and parsed to DEADAGI |
| 17:24.16 | drumkilla | it is set by the Dial application |
| 17:24.27 | znoG | ah, yes, of course. |
| 17:27.42 | fulgas | anyone got siptapi working with * ' |
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| 17:29.03 | So3kris | hello |
| 17:29.36 | So3kris | knows somebody of the X100P clone from asterisk_hardware works with linux 2.6 |
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| 17:33.21 | a1fa | hehee |
| 17:33.24 | a1fa | http://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf00493ks.jpg |
| 17:33.29 | a1fa | my knees after road rash |
| 17:34.43 | znoG | a1fa: what happened_ |
| 17:34.44 | znoG | ? |
| 17:35.14 | a1fa | znoG: low slide on a bike |
| 17:35.29 | a1fa | i dont really remember.. how it happened.. i think i might've locked my front break in a turn |
| 17:38.27 | znoG | ouchhhh |
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| 17:40.49 | _Sam-- | how do you make 1.2 play MOH mp3 without using external player? ive killall'd mpg123s...but 1.2 still starts them up when its needs MOH |
| 17:42.48 | _Sam-- | i was wrong in thinking that the 1.2 could do that all without mpg123? |
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| 17:49.37 | gniretar | hey |
| 17:49.43 | gniretar | so what is it about AGI that people dont like? |
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| 17:51.06 | Oryn | has anyone ever had * user interface lock up when you try to do a reload? |
| 17:51.10 | *** join/#asterisk neway (i=t7DS@mvx-200-142-97-10.mundivox.com) |
| 17:51.25 | Oryn | mine just sits there when you issue a reload |
| 17:51.37 | Oryn | its done it ever since I upgraded to 1.2 |
| 17:51.57 | Oryn | there is nothing in the logs |
| 17:52.26 | Oryn | I have to just restart it using the init script every time I make changes, its most annoying :( |
| 17:52.54 | ManxPower | Oryn, you have a DNS problem. |
| 17:53.02 | *** join/#asterisk razu (n=razu@217-159-227-104-dsl.prn.estpak.ee) |
| 17:53.15 | Oryn | ManxPower: realy? |
| 17:53.25 | ManxPower | Oryn, Prolly a register => line is causing a DNS lookup to happen, fail, and timeout. |
| 17:53.45 | ManxPower | specify stuff by IP address rather than hostname |
| 17:53.55 | Oryn | ManxPower: I dont have any register commands |
| 17:53.59 | *** join/#asterisk Assid (n=assid@203.115.64.59) |
| 17:54.25 | ManxPower | then lookup of 127.0.0.1 or the IP address of your machine is timing out. |
| 17:54.41 | ManxPower | make sure both are listed in /etc/hosts or in DNS |
| 17:54.58 | Oryn | ManxPower: why would 1.0.9 work fine? |
| 17:55.39 | ManxPower | Oryn, no idea. Long delay in "reload" is not ALWAYS caused by a hostname lookup problem, but it is one of the most common causes. |
| 17:56.01 | Oryn | ManxPower: this is not a delay, it never reloads |
| 17:56.28 | ManxPower | Oryn, how long have you waitd? |
| 17:56.37 | Oryn | ManxPower: a week |
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| 17:57.07 | ManxPower | Oryn, Never heard of that. |
| 17:57.13 | Oryn | besides, the box its running on is a "real" dns |
| 17:57.38 | Oryn | localhost / 127.0.0.1 resolve correctly |
| 17:57.46 | Oryn | I just checked |
| 17:58.05 | james_ | hello, I am having problems recieving calls from broadvoice, can anyone help me? |
| 17:58.15 | Oryn | everything else (asside from sip discount) is ip based |
| 17:58.34 | Oryn | sip discount works fine |
| 17:58.45 | Oryn | when its not congested |
| 17:58.58 | ManxPower | SIP discount? |
| 17:59.25 | ManxPower | perhaps you have some silly modules loaded that you are not using like chan_sccp, etc. |
| 17:59.30 | ManxPower | show modules |
| 17:59.38 | Oryn | urm free outgoing calls to usa / canada / uk - landlines |
| 18:00.01 | trixter | its owned by the voipbuster people |
| 18:00.08 | Oryn | ManxPower: wouldn't that make it slow to start in the first place |
| 18:00.12 | trixter | same company, voipbuster.com and voipcheap.co.uk |
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| 18:00.47 | james_ | when I type sip show peers, under the NAT section it has N for all of my sip devices, but I am behind nat, and in sip.conf I tell it that? |
| 18:01.16 | ManxPower | james_, are your SIP devices behind NAT too? |
| 18:01.35 | viLeR | Hello there, ¿ It is possible to connect an Avaya plant with Asterisk server throung IP using SIP or H323? |
| 18:01.37 | Oryn | ManxPower: wow what am I looking for, there are loads of modules |
| 18:02.38 | james_ | ManxPower: yes |
| 18:03.52 | Oryn | ManxPower: 142 modules loaded |
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| 18:04.49 | phonetalk | hello everybody |
| 18:05.02 | phonetalk | i m having a problem in compiling h323 channel |
| 18:05.52 | *** part/#asterisk scratchrf (n=ryan@65-102-189-139.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 18:06.27 | phonetalk | can anybody help me ? |
| 18:08.28 | phonetalk | is it a dead channel / |
| 18:08.30 | phonetalk | is it a dead channel ? |
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| 18:09.15 | Oryn | ManxPower: ok this is very odd, if I run asterisk my self as root asterisk -cvvvv |
| 18:09.25 | Oryn | ManxPower: and type reload it works |
| 18:12.23 | james_ | ManxPower: do you have any suggestions for me? |
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| 18:16.00 | james_ | I am behind a linksys wireless router, I should have NAT enabled by default right? |
| 18:16.09 | phonetalk | hello anybody ??? |
| 18:16.40 | gniretar | hi |
| 18:16.57 | phonetalk | can anybody help me in h323 ? |
| 18:17.20 | gniretar | sry |
| 18:17.21 | gniretar | not me |
| 18:17.30 | phonetalk | ok thank you for asking |
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| 18:22.44 | BugKham | has anyone heard of the web based asterisk softphone? |
| 18:24.36 | TheCops | james_, sometime linksys wireless router are in bridge mode |
| 18:24.44 | TheCops | and they call it router hehe |
| 18:25.07 | james_ | really, so I wouldnt be behing nat, then? its gots some SPI firewall? |
| 18:29.39 | *** join/#asterisk Ariel_ (n=Ariel@adsl-068-157-125-248.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:29.47 | Ariel_ | locked |
| 18:29.59 | Ariel_ | hello everyone |
| 18:30.07 | james_ | TheCops:I have a wrt54g router |
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| 18:31.23 | TheCops | james_ he is doing NAT |
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| 18:32.27 | Dr-Linux | we get 5 DID numbers from voip provider, how i can configure them in my asterisk box? any help aor guide link? |
| 18:33.01 | Ariel_ | Dr-Linux, depeonds on how your getting into the asterisk box. |
| 18:33.09 | james_ | TheCops:do you have any idea why I wouldnt be able to recieve calls from broadvoice? |
| 18:33.48 | TheCops | james_, never used this voip provider |
| 18:33.51 | NewSole | broadvoice seems to go up and down faster then a teenager in a whore house |
| 18:34.02 | Dr-Linux | Ariel_: what info you need to guide me ? |
| 18:34.07 | james_ | lol, I hear bad and good news |
| 18:34.35 | Dr-Linux | Ariel_: they are providing us the numbers on my asterisk IP address on port 5060 |
| 18:34.39 | Ariel_ | NewSole, I have a few accounts with them. They work most of the time. |
| 18:35.19 | Ariel_ | Dr-Linux, you need to send them to a context like [incoming] then in there you put the exten => 12345,1,Dial(what you want) |
| 18:35.35 | NewSole | yes but they have not changed their equipment in 2 years.. and their user base exceeds their setup |
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| 18:36.16 | NewSole | and they dont plan on adding more equipment right now because as a personal note I know they are selling company |
| 18:37.31 | phonetalk | anyone can help me on h323 ? |
| 18:37.37 | tzanger | NewSole: who's that |
| 18:37.43 | tzanger | broadvoice? |
| 18:37.45 | NewSole | broadvoice |
| 18:38.24 | james_ | if I do nmap on my asterisk server is 5060 supposed to open? |
| 18:38.53 | TheCops | james_ yeah, UDPP |
| 18:38.55 | TheCops | UDP sorry |
| 18:39.04 | ManxPower | james_, that's SIP control port |
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| 18:39.12 | james_ | nmap doesnt show that on the server |
| 18:39.34 | Dr-Linux | oo |
| 18:39.35 | TheCops | nmap -sU -p 5060 host |
| 18:39.51 | ManxPower | james_, then you are either not reading nmap correctly or you don't have chan_sip.so loaded |
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| 18:41.27 | james_ | ManxPower:modprobe chan_sip.so not found? |
| 18:41.46 | ManxPower | james_, ASTERISK module. "show modules" in the CLI |
| 18:42.21 | james_ | it has a 0 by it |
| 18:42.36 | ManxPower | james_, perhaps you don't have a sip.conf setup correctly. |
| 18:42.46 | ManxPower | try reload chan_sip.so |
| 18:43.57 | znoG | strange, I call DEADAGI and print out all the variables (from AGI->ReadParse()) and can't see one that tells me the duration of the call |
| 18:44.06 | james_ | I did reload chan_sip.so, and it still has a 0 on the far right |
| 18:44.11 | _Sam-- | my cdr logging to mysql stopped when i upgraded from 1.0 to 1.2 today....can anyone point me in the right place? |
| 18:44.36 | ManxPower | james_, what message was displayed when you did the command |
| 18:44.44 | ManxPower | _Sam--, rebuild it for 1.2? |
| 18:44.50 | james_ | ManxPower: nothing was displayed |
| 18:45.00 | ManxPower | james_, then you don't have a sip.conf |
| 18:45.21 | james_ | ok I did it with asterisk -vvvvvvvvvr and it says |
| 18:45.41 | _Sam-- | thanks lemme try the addons |
| 18:45.50 | james_ | Peer 'sip.broadvoice.com' is now TOO LAGGED! |
| 18:46.15 | ManxPower | I guess you are reading or running nmap wrong then. |
| 18:46.23 | ManxPower | james_, what is your qualify= line? |
| 18:46.48 | james_ | qualify=yes |
| 18:47.10 | ManxPower | then sip.broadvoice.com is taking more then 2000ms to respond to a SIP OPTIONS command. |
| 18:47.19 | ManxPower | Either broadvoice sucks or your ISP sucks. |
| 18:47.32 | james_ | it came up and said it is ok now |
| 18:47.51 | ManxPower | so what's the problem? |
| 18:48.06 | Ariel_ | they have many different servers you need to find the one closer to you for registration |
| 18:48.10 | _Sam-- | manx thanks. |
| 18:48.21 | _Sam-- | i didnt realize that was a seperate add-on |
| 18:48.24 | james_ | ManxPower: I cannot recieve calls |
| 18:48.31 | james_ | I can make them |
| 18:48.49 | ManxPower | james_, sounds like either a NAT issue or a register => issue. |
| 18:49.04 | ManxPower | BOTH are described in the Wiki |
| 18:49.22 | james_ | ok, the register line is correct I know, I had someone else look at it |
| 18:49.32 | ManxPower | "sip show registry" |
| 18:49.38 | znoG | how can one find out the duration of a call from a AGI script_ |
| 18:49.39 | znoG | ? |
| 18:49.41 | _Sam-- | if you had a bunch of * servers, how would you make them load the same config from an sql database? |
| 18:50.00 | Ariel_ | james_, my setup to bv is 64 bytes from sip.broadvoice.com (147.135.4.128): icmp_seq=6 ttl=59 time=12.8 ms and I have not had any problems with them other then there over sold |
| 18:50.13 | _DAW | _Sam-- Realtime.. |
| 18:50.13 | ManxPower | znoG, README.variables doesn't give you any clues? |
| 18:50.29 | _Sam-- | ty |
| 18:50.30 | _Sam-- | reading up |
| 18:50.35 | james_ | ManxPower: it shows sip.broadvoice.com:5060 xxxxxxxxxx@s 23 Registered |
| 18:50.41 | NewSole | PING proxy.nyc.broadvoice.com (147.135.20.128) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 18:50.41 | NewSole | 64 bytes from 147.135.20.128: icmp_seq=0 ttl=245 time=26.4 ms |
| 18:51.07 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: i got 3 DID numbers from a voip provider, i just wanna redirect them configure, and i want if someone call on them they should go to [vir] context? any idea |
| 18:51.17 | ManxPower | james_, what is your register line, sans password? |
| 18:51.25 | Dr-Linux | i know its quite easy, but i don't have any idea |
| 18:51.25 | znoG | ManxPower: yep, ${ANSWEREDTIME} :) just found it .. |
| 18:51.43 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, Rephrase that. |
| 18:51.52 | NewSole | Dr-Linux... whats the prob |
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| 18:52.09 | james_ | ManxPower: register =>xxxxxxxxx@sip.broadvoice.com:password:xxxxxxxxxx@sip.broadvoice.com/210 |
| 18:52.21 | ManxPower | the context=vir line should be in the [provider section] |
| 18:52.21 | Dr-Linux | Rephrase mean? :S i'm dorry i don't know good english |
| 18:52.38 | Dr-Linux | NewSole: problem is nothing, but i don't know how to configure them? |
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| 18:52.45 | ManxPower | james_, then calls will either come into exten => 210 or exten => s in the context of the [broadvoicewhatever] section |
| 18:53.00 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, what is your native language? |
| 18:53.17 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: urdu |
| 18:53.31 | Ariel_ | funny I route bv via the actuall did number 10 digits no 1 in front of them. |
| 18:53.32 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, I don't think many people on this channel speak that. 8-) |
| 18:53.40 | james_ | ManxPower: yes, exten => 210,1,goto(internal,210,1) |
| 18:53.47 | NewSole | Dr-Linux... who is your provider |
| 18:53.50 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: i'm only urdu guy here :S |
| 18:54.02 | Dr-Linux | NewSole: Vonics.com |
| 18:54.13 | ManxPower | james_, What makes you think BV is accepting your request for tension 210? |
| 18:54.17 | NewSole | iax or sip |
| 18:54.29 | Dr-Linux | they just forward these number on my asterisk box IP, on port 5060 |
| 18:54.31 | Ariel_ | Dr-Linux, what do you not understand fomr my post to your inquire I posted for you? |
| 18:54.31 | ManxPower | try putting in a exten _X.,1,Noop(Called Extension is ${EXTEN}) |
| 18:54.48 | ManxPower | then call the number and watch the console and tell me what the the Noop message reads |
| 18:55.29 | Dr-Linux | ManxPower: you are talking to me? |
| 18:55.42 | NewSole | yup |
| 18:55.47 | ManxPower | Dr-Linux, no. I can't help you. |
| 18:55.49 | james_ | ManxPower: exten => _X.,1,Noop(Called Extension is ${EXTEN})? |
| 18:56.01 | james_ | ohh |
| 18:56.08 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, I posted to him about this and creating a default context to catch the calls. But he seems not to understand what I posted for him. |
| 18:56.15 | ManxPower | james_, Correct. That will tell us what extensions broadvoice is REALLY sending the call to. |
| 18:56.17 | Dr-Linux | NewSole: sip |
| 18:56.26 | ManxPower | Ariel_, Ah. One of those. |
| 18:56.48 | Ariel_ | he is getting unregistered sip call. YOu need to catch them in default |
| 18:57.12 | ManxPower | Ariel_, Ah! So his user/friend section of sip.conf is wrong. |
| 18:57.41 | ManxPower | People need to read this: http://www.sineapps.com/print.php?rssid=807 |
| 18:57.48 | Dr-Linux | Ariel_: if the number are landing in extensions.conf? |
| 18:57.56 | Ariel_ | no he does not have any info for the provider. There a rea few that are just sending calls to an IP address not to a registration. |
| 18:57.57 | Qwell | and the SECURITY file |
| 18:58.34 | Ariel_ | Dr-Linux, if you have in the general section of sip.conf context=default put default context into the extensions.conf with the numbers you want to route |
| 18:58.46 | ManxPower | Ariel_, They don't realize that using IP addresses causes all sorts of problmes in the long term. |
| 18:59.06 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, yes I do but he does not and his boss is telling him this is what he wants |
| 18:59.11 | *** join/#asterisk harryvv (n=none@S010600a0c93f6f7e.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 18:59.22 | *** join/#asterisk lorinc (n=ang@caracas-3352.adsl.interware.hu) |
| 18:59.23 | ManxPower | Ariel_, Poor guy. His boss is wrong. |
| 18:59.27 | Ariel_ | yes |
| 18:59.27 | Dr-Linux | Ariel_: let me check? |
| 18:59.37 | Dr-Linux | i mean, let me check |
| 18:59.40 | harryvv | Afternoon Ariel |
| 18:59.46 | Ariel_ | but didx sells did's with un-registered accounts |
| 18:59.48 | james_ | ManxPower: from sip debug, it show the call come in and want to go to 210@ipaddress |
| 18:59.53 | ManxPower | Ariel_, There is no help for him then. |
| 18:59.55 | Ariel_ | harryvv, how are you doing |
| 18:59.58 | harryvv | okay |
| 19:00.13 | Ariel_ | ManxPower, well yes and no. But he is not listing at this stage. |
| 19:00.43 | ManxPower | james_, You don't get to WANT anytihng. The call will go wherever the provider sends it. |
| 19:00.51 | harryvv | I was wondering what linux software would allow a user to set up account, then it would charge them per min above the the min that I am charged from say voipjet ? |
| 19:01.10 | Ariel_ | harryvv, ???? |
| 19:01.11 | harryvv | I suspect that would be php/mysql |
| 19:01.26 | ManxPower | I think that would be "software you write" |
| 19:01.38 | harryvv | That also |
| 19:01.41 | Ariel_ | well I have to go to a customer. I will be back in about an hour or so. |
| 19:01.45 | Ariel_ | b2billing |
| 19:02.02 | Ariel_ | the new aah 2.2 has it installed |
| 19:02.07 | Ariel_ | see you all later. |
| 19:02.19 | Dr-Linux | Ariel_: i don't have default context in sip.conf. should i add one? |
| 19:02.33 | Dr-Linux | ooo he is gone :S |
| 19:02.42 | ManxPower | Has everyone read the SECURITY file in the Asterisk source code? If not STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND READ IT NOW. |
| 19:02.57 | *** join/#asterisk DrPHP (n=assid@203.115.64.59) |
| 19:03.08 | Qwell | ManxPower: Did I tell you, that I stumbled upon a provider that is wide open with SIP? |
| 19:03.16 | harryvv | aah 2.2 is not even released mmm |
| 19:03.17 | Qwell | ManxPower: international and everything...it's sad |
| 19:03.34 | ManxPower | Qwell, No. Perhaps you should mention it on the asterisk-users mailing list? |
| 19:03.39 | Qwell | I'm going to |
| 19:03.41 | Qwell | :p |
| 19:03.41 | james_ | ManxPower: ok is says called Extensions is mynumber then it says timeout out but no rute 't' in context 'default' |
| 19:03.47 | ManxPower | Qwell, Well that's one less provider we need to worry about. |
| 19:03.59 | ManxPower | james_, then you need an exten => mynumber |
| 19:04.03 | Qwell | well, this provider screwed over a friend of mine, in a big way, so... |
| 19:04.17 | Qwell | They're going down anyhow |
| 19:05.24 | *** join/#asterisk stoffell (n=stoffell@d51A4D148.access.telenet.be) |
| 19:05.49 | ManxPower | or more specifically exten => mynumber,1,goto(internal,210,1) |
| 19:06.10 | james_ | ManxPower: alright it worked thanks |
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| 19:15.07 | *** join/#asterisk _Madar (n=tophe@219-84-129-163-adsl-tpe.static.so-net.net.tw) |
| 19:15.47 | ManxPowe | "There's only one way to have a happy marriage and as soon as I learn what it is I'll get married again." -- Clint Eastwood |
| 19:17.08 | So3kris | Have someone the X100P clone working on 2.6 |
| 19:18.07 | ManxPowe | So3kris, why would they not? |
| 19:18.08 | james_ | ManxPowe: I cant believe it took me that long to figure out something that easy :p |
| 19:18.47 | So3kris | ManxPowe: i can't compile the very nasty code under 2.6 |
| 19:19.01 | ManxPowe | So3kris, what version of zaptel? |
| 19:19.13 | Qwell | very nasty code? |
| 19:19.37 | So3kris | yes the wcfxo2a code |
| 19:19.47 | Qwell | 2a? |
| 19:19.48 | So3kris | zaptel 1.2.1 |
| 19:20.01 | ManxPowe | So3kris, almost all compile errors are because you don't have the kernel-source and kernel-headers installed or there's a mismatch between the running kernel and the kernel source. |
| 19:20.11 | Qwell | or missing libs |
| 19:20.16 | So3kris | The X100p from asterisk_hardware has a special driver |
| 19:20.35 | Qwell | So, it isn't part of zaptel? |
| 19:20.41 | ManxPowe | So3kris, well we can't help you with that if it's not part of Zaptel 1.2.1 |
| 19:20.41 | Qwell | It's a third party module? |
| 19:20.50 | znoG | would it cause performance issues to have an Asterisk server configured so that it runs an AGI for every outbound call which queries MySQL, and runs a DEADAGI when the call ends which writes to MySQL? |
| 19:20.58 | So3kris | Qwell: yes |
| 19:21.06 | Qwell | znoG: yes, with any significant amount of calls |
| 19:21.16 | ManxPowe | So3kris, Then go talk to the vendor. We can't help you. |
| 19:21.18 | Qwell | So3kris: Then get them to help you |
| 19:21.36 | So3kris | ManxPowe: yes i know. But may be there are more people than me with the same card |
| 19:21.46 | caio1982 | any idea how to put register strings for sip trunks in asterisk realtime? i mean, there's no way to set upt a general context using ARA? |
| 19:21.47 | ManxPowe | So3kris, not on this channel there isn't. |
| 19:21.59 | So3kris | I didn't know |
| 19:22.00 | *** join/#asterisk chrisvarns (n=chris@ACD1A91D.ipt.aol.com) |
| 19:22.06 | znoG | Qwell: i could just analyze cdr-csv logs, but there are channel variables I'd like to set which are not shown in the cdr-csv log |
| 19:22.28 | Qwell | znoG: use the csv2 or whatever it is, that allows you to set arbitrary vars |
| 19:22.42 | *** join/#asterisk Rez (i=lorez@freenode/staff/lorez) |
| 19:22.45 | znoG | nice, thanks |
| 19:23.06 | Qwell | README.cdr |
| 19:23.24 | So3kris | ManxPowe: thanx any way. I think i go to buy a good card |
| 19:23.46 | ManxPowe | So3kris, Try the official zaptel 1.2.1 drivers. I'll bet they will work just fine. |
| 19:24.03 | Qwell | ManxPowe: They probably did something stupid to the card, like change the pciid |
| 19:24.07 | So3kris | Ok i haven't try that |
| 19:24.25 | ManxPowe | So3kris, at least you will confirm that you have all the required libs and software installed. |
| 19:24.41 | ManxPowe | Qwell, Digium has added MANY of the clone IDs over the past year or so |
| 19:24.52 | _Sam-- | is there any easy way to get your config from extensions.conf to sql without doing it all by hand? |
| 19:25.20 | So3kris | This is what the buyer have send met http://x100p.pbxhardware.com/READMEa.txt http://x100p.pbxhardware.com/wcfxo2a.tgz |
| 19:25.44 | *** join/#asterisk digime (n=digime@60.49.10.234) |
| 19:25.47 | ManxPowe | So3kris, the clone makers frequently lie |
| 19:25.58 | Qwell | how silly |
| 19:27.09 | ManxPowe | Many of the clone makes sell a softmodem that is X100P compatable for like $30 and you can buy them via mailorder for $9 |
| 19:27.22 | ManxPowe | sorry, a WINmodem, not softmodem |
| 19:27.36 | digime | any known stability issues with latest * |
| 19:27.37 | Qwell | awesome, it's a proprietary driver |
| 19:27.42 | Qwell | MODULE_LICENSE("Proprietary"); |
| 19:27.48 | Qwell | Makefile README wcfxo2-core.o wcfxo2-module.c wcfxo2.c |
| 19:28.16 | Qwell | $10 says he took code from Asterisk to make it |
| 19:28.19 | ManxPowe | Qwell, if it's based on wcfxo.c then it's a lawsuit waiting to happen |
| 19:28.19 | Qwell | any takers? |
| 19:28.47 | ManxPowe | So3kris, get the stock zaptel drivers to compile first. |
| 19:29.01 | *** join/#asterisk Johnnie (n=jdlewis@pdpc/supporter/active/Johnnie) |
| 19:29.07 | ManxPowe | Qwell, I don't bet against a sure thing 8-) |
| 19:29.09 | So3kris | The stock zaptel ? |
| 19:29.22 | So3kris | i have compiled the zaptel 1.2.1 |
| 19:29.23 | Qwell | ManxPowe: ;] |
| 19:29.24 | ManxPowe | So3kris, the official Digium zaptel source code. |
| 19:29.29 | Dr-Linux | ManxPowe: when i dial those DID numbers, i can see the incoming call in CLI> but how can i know that on which context they are landing? :S |
| 19:29.29 | So3kris | ok |
| 19:29.29 | trixter | often because there is a legal claim lawsuits dont occur.. there are many many examples of that, the gain isnt worth the cost.. so it prolly isnt a lawsuit waiting to happen |
| 19:29.44 | So3kris | ManxPowe: ik have the source the new stable |
| 19:29.46 | Dr-Linux | when i dial them for from outside number, i hear nothing .. |
| 19:30.01 | ManxPowe | So3kris, and modeprobe wcfxo does not work? |
| 19:32.44 | digime | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.07 | Qwell | digime: 1.2.1? |
| 19:33.23 | ManxPowe | digime, if there was it would be discussed on the mailing lists |
| 19:33.34 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@ti211210a080-0337.bb.online.no) |
| 19:34.31 | RoyK | hi |
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| 19:36.39 | So3kris | ManxPowe: i have not the hardware in my server. It is running on 2.4 linux. but i move my asterisk to 2.6 linux. enz.... Tot morrow i wil try it with the card. |
| 19:36.45 | So3kris | Thanx for the support |
| 19:37.10 | ManxPowe | You can think me by getting me something from my wishlist http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/gimme.cgi?wid=81d21ef90 |
| 19:37.31 | Qwell | you have a thinkgeek wishlist? awesome |
| 19:37.46 | So3kris | haha |
| 19:37.52 | Qwell | mine would consist of hundreds of packs of penguin mints |
| 19:38.09 | So3kris | I think i must buy a new X100P sorry |
| 19:38.17 | trixter | penguin mints arent that good |
| 19:38.23 | trixter | atl east they werent in 99/2000 |
| 19:38.29 | trixter | xtc were better tasting |
| 19:38.31 | trixter | :) |
| 19:38.38 | Qwell | they are supposed to be good |
| 19:38.40 | So3kris | XTC ? |
| 19:38.44 | So3kris | :-p |
| 19:38.51 | Qwell | (although, the chocolate ones are) |
| 19:38.57 | stoffell | hehe |
| 19:38.59 | trixter | xtc has all that penguin mints has and ginsing and guarana - and a much better taste |
| 19:39.06 | stoffell | kinda like Guiness, but you don't get drunk :p |
| 19:39.10 | stoffell | +n :d |
| 19:39.25 | trixter | course 5 years ago there was virtually no tie in to geek/linux and penguin mints |
| 19:43.48 | trixter | ael appears to have some additional bugs |
| 19:44.48 | SkramX | damn sixtel! |
| 19:44.59 | trixter | they wouldnt hire you? |
| 19:45.08 | SkramX | no.. just no response |
| 19:47.11 | trixter | hrm, if your context is named default in ael it appears to not like that ... has anyone gotten a default context in ael to work? |
| 19:47.31 | Qwell | trixter: You can probably only have one default context |
| 19:47.48 | Qwell | That's hardly a bug |
| 19:48.01 | trixter | riught |
| 19:48.03 | trixter | I have only one |
| 19:48.05 | trixter | in ael |
| 19:48.13 | trixter | that is a bug |
| 19:48.15 | trixter | further |
| 19:48.16 | Qwell | and it's not there in extensions.conf? |
| 19:48.18 | trixter | Dec 26 11:47:53 WARNING[22423]: pbx.c:3742 ast_merge_contexts_and_delete: Requested contexts didn't get merged |
| 19:48.22 | trixter | no its not |
| 19:48.26 | trixter | Dec 26 11:47:41 NOTICE[22433]: pbx.c:1731 pbx_extension_helper: Cannot find extension context 'default' |
| 19:48.33 | trixter | its not anywhere but ael and it cant be found in ael |
| 19:48.40 | trixter | ok how much do you want to bet? |
| 19:48.53 | Qwell | $-25 |
| 19:48.56 | Dr-Linux | Qwell: can i go with my question? :$ |
| 19:49.02 | Qwell | if I'm wrong, you owe me $25 |
| 19:49.04 | Qwell | :P |
| 19:49.10 | ManxPowe | My thinkgeek wishlist totals to be over $800 |
| 19:49.16 | trixter | yeah that is what I thought |
| 19:49.19 | Qwell | ManxPowe: excessive |
| 19:49.41 | ManxPowe | I suspect he doesn't have a the right sections before his first context. |
| 19:49.44 | trixter | there are other bugs in ael as well, it appears to be either the tokenizer and/or parsing order |
| 19:49.52 | *** join/#asterisk lilo (i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin) |
| 19:49.59 | ManxPowe | [general] or [global] or he has bad chars before them |
| 19:50.10 | Oryn | ManxPowe: :) |
| 19:50.31 | trixter | features also has some bugs, repeatable and causes asterisk to crash |
| 19:50.38 | trixter | cause it tries to free memory it never allocated |
| 19:50.42 | ManxPowe | Qwell, only a few thing over $40 and several things under $10 |
| 19:50.43 | Qwell | trixter: so report a bug |
| 19:50.54 | trixter | I just did you are the bug marshall, marshall that one |
| 19:50.59 | Qwell | nope |
| 19:51.03 | Qwell | don't work that way |
| 19:51.07 | dudes | bug marshall |
| 19:51.08 | ManxPowe | trixter, whats the bug ID? |
| 19:51.13 | dudes | that sound kind of funny |
| 19:51.16 | trixter | I filed it with the bug marshall |
| 19:51.28 | trixter | he is aware of it, but my guess is that he wants me to do more work than what I did |
| 19:51.29 | Qwell | Show me where it says that we accept bug reports |
| 19:51.36 | trixter | who is 'we'? |
| 19:51.43 | ManxPowe | you don't file bugs with bug marshalls, you file them with bugs.digium.com |
| 19:51.47 | Qwell | I'll be damned if I'm going to report a bug I don't know shit about... |
| 19:51.55 | trixter | ahh no I dont help commercial entites profit off my work |
| 19:51.59 | trixter | why I dont submit my patches either |
| 19:52.07 | Qwell | Then...don't bitch about it |
| 19:52.20 | ManxPowe | trixter, switch to Open PBX then |
| 19:52.28 | SkramX | hah |
| 19:52.32 | trixter | ok I see how it is |
| 19:52.41 | *** join/#asterisk Zach^^ (n=Zachary@65.121.244.130) |
| 19:52.43 | trixter | if you arent willing to work for digium at $0/hr you get bitched at |
| 19:52.46 | trixter | makes sense |
| 19:52.47 | Qwell | exactly |
| 19:52.54 | *** join/#asterisk J4k3 (i=j4k3@dhcp-12-197-128-55.intrastar.net) |
| 19:52.54 | trixter | after all that $10M/year they gross only goes so far |
| 19:52.59 | Qwell | And, you still expect to get free software from them |
| 19:53.00 | dudes | trixter - since * is OpenSource |
| 19:53.03 | Zach^^ | what is a good outbound provider that allows free 800/866/877/888 numbers? |
| 19:53.07 | trixter | asterisk isnt always open source |
| 19:53.12 | trixter | digium sells it under a commercial license |
| 19:53.16 | dudes | So |
| 19:53.21 | dudes | cry a f'n river |
| 19:53.25 | trixter | so claiming that code that is licensed under a commercial license is open source is questionable at best |
| 19:53.28 | Qwell | <ManxPowe> trixter, switch to Open PBX then |
| 19:53.30 | ManxPowe | trixter, You do belong on #openpbx. |
| 19:53.31 | dudes | Open Source doesn't mean poor ass coder |
| 19:53.44 | trixter | right open source doesnt, asterisk does |
| 19:53.47 | dudes | Good for them for making money and still giving to the OS community |
| 19:53.52 | trixter | it means that poor ass coders worked on it |
| 19:53.54 | ManxPowe | they have the same....views....as you do. |
| 19:54.06 | J4k3 | wow trixter... you're too stupid to figure it out and you come here to cry about it? |
| 19:54.13 | Qwell | those views are pathetic and wrong, at best |
| 19:54.24 | trixter | I am not here to cry about it but it is really funny how many people are crying about me saying that asterisk has bugs |
| 19:54.31 | trixter | at first qwell was trying to insist that it doesnt |
| 19:54.33 | Qwell | so fix them, and shut up |
| 19:54.36 | ManxPowe | trixter, If you purchase ABE then I'm pretty sure Digium will file bug reports for you. If you use non-ABE then you have to file them yourself. 8-) |
| 19:54.37 | J4k3 | asterisk has bugs, that doesn't mean the members are shitty coders |
| 19:54.40 | J4k3 | if you can do better, fucking do it |
| 19:54.43 | trixter | then it comes out that it really is a bug and everyone would rather bitch about it than do anything about it |
| 19:54.47 | trixter | you guys are soooo funny |
| 19:54.56 | trixter | good thing digium violates gpl lgpl and other licenses with asterisk |
| 19:54.59 | Oryn | Zach^^: I use sipdiscount.com, they allow free _1[1-8]xx. |
| 19:55.03 | J4k3 | no, they don't. |
| 19:55.08 | trixter | \good thing their hardware is based off gpl designs for which they dont release under the terms of the gpl |
| 19:55.09 | J4k3 | I suggest you go ask an attorney. |
| 19:55.13 | Qwell | How the fuck can digium violate their OWN license? |
| 19:55.22 | trixter | gotta love a company that violates licenses and then insists they are helping the community by doing that and profiting off it |
| 19:55.31 | trixter | because they dont own EVERYTHING in the asterisk code base |
| 19:55.32 | J4k3 | trixter: save it for #sveasoft. |
| 19:55.44 | J4k3 | trixter: go read the GPL you fucking loser. |
| 19:55.44 | Qwell | trixter: name one thing |
| 19:55.44 | trixter | and some of what is in there was not assigned to them for their commercial license |
| 19:55.44 | ManxPowe | Qwell, I think he thinks that stuff like TDM400P and TE* cards are based on GPL designs |
| 19:55.50 | Zach^^ | Oryn, thanks! how is there delay? i am using fwd.. and there seams to be a delay |
| 19:55.55 | trixter | further htey dont own the license on the initial cards |
| 19:56.03 | J4k3 | you can 'sell' a GPL product, moron... Linksys does it a few thousand times every day |
| 19:56.05 | trixter | of which their subsequent cards are derrivitave works |
| 19:56.06 | J4k3 | its called the WRT54G. |
| 19:56.08 | trixter | and thus fall under the gpl |
| 19:56.15 | J4k3 | any code diffs must be published, thats it. |
| 19:56.24 | ManxPowe | trixter, what makes you think that? |
| 19:56.34 | trixter | you cant take code for which isnt assigned and you dont have al icense for to release it under a non gpl license (or whatever it was originally) |
| 19:56.38 | Oryn | Zach^^: I'm in the UK, but my gf has a sipura box off my * box and she says its fine |
| 19:56.39 | trixter | which is something digium does |
| 19:56.40 | J4k3 | wanna know an ugly one? code diffs only have to be given to licensees. |
| 19:56.54 | trixter | they STEAL code from others they dont have the right to and sell it under alternative licenses |
| 19:56.55 | J4k3 | you can hack up GPL code for resale, and only give the diffs to your CUSTOMERS. |
| 19:57.06 | J4k3 | trixter: I highly suggest you read the GPL |
| 19:57.09 | ManxPowe | trixter, and you are helping them by using Asterisk! |
| 19:57.11 | trixter | they sell hardware cards without providing schematics for cards that are based on a non-digum gpl license |
| 19:57.12 | J4k3 | trixter: because you're simply incorrect. |
| 19:57.24 | trixter | which means they are violating the various licenses on both their software and hardware |
| 19:57.25 | J4k3 | now why don't you go do some reading and less typing on IRC so people can get something productive done aye? |
| 19:57.33 | ManxPowe | trixter, so sue them. |
| 19:57.43 | hypa7ia | J4k3: of course, the customers can then redistribute it too :) |
| 19:57.44 | trixter | I dont own the license |
| 19:57.48 | dudes | Plus I'm hungover and care barely keep ujp |
| 19:57.54 | J4k3 | hypa7ia: yep, Sveasoft Effect [tm] |
| 19:57.55 | dudes | err, keep up ... |
| 19:57.58 | Corydon-w | trixter: who owns the license? |
| 19:58.01 | trixter | the code owned by the FSF in asterisk surely cant be sold commercially under a non gpl license |
| 19:58.02 | hypa7ia | J4k3: which theoreticlaly drives the cost to 0 |
| 19:58.17 | hypa7ia | J4k3: exactly |
| 19:58.19 | Corydon-w | trixter: the FSF doesn't own ANY of the code in Asterisk |
| 19:58.20 | J4k3 | trixter: you can read the GPL.. it'll explain things a lot clearer than you seem to think you understand them now. |
| 19:58.23 | hypa7ia | trixter: which FSF code? |
| 19:58.26 | trixter | there are ot her bits of code as well that are not owned by digium, nor assigned to them which is included in asterisk |
| 19:58.34 | trixter | the stuff that says 'copyright FSF' |
| 19:58.42 | hypa7ia | trixter: do you work for SCO? |
| 19:58.46 | J4k3 | trixter: and what does this have to do with 'asterisk bugs' |
| 19:58.49 | J4k3 | heh. |
| 19:58.49 | trixter | I have been through this with kpflemming who said he would look into digiums code theft |
| 19:58.59 | tzanger | digium's code theft? heh |
| 19:59.00 | J4k3 | trixter: and obviously nothing happened yet, so stfu. |
| 19:59.07 | Corydon-w | trixter: and which stuff is that? |
| 19:59.08 | tzanger | so we're back on this idiotic subject again |
| 19:59.16 | Qwell | tzanger: it's monday |
| 19:59.16 | trixter | nope I dont work for sco, but that doesnt mean that digium didnt use code with non gpl lcienses in their code base |
| 19:59.17 | *** join/#asterisk flot (n=flot@user241.hovrino.net) |
| 19:59.25 | trixter | and then license it under a commercial license |
| 19:59.32 | dudes | I didn't notice it was monday already |
| 19:59.38 | hypa7ia | trixter: let's see some code, please |
| 19:59.38 | tzanger | trixter: doesn't mean they DID, either |
| 19:59.44 | dudes | haha, too much Whiskey over the weekend |
| 19:59.45 | J4k3 | trixter: call your atttorney and get rich!! |
| 19:59.51 | J4k3 | trixter: PROFIT!!! and shut the fuck up. |
| 19:59.56 | Dr-Linux | i got 3 DID numbers from voip provider, its lands on my * IP (5060), when i dial those numbers from outside, i can see on the CLI> but i'm not sure on which context they are landing? anybody can help? |
| 20:00.00 | tzanger | honestly... provide the proof or go away. Thanks for calling. |
| 20:00.09 | Corydon-w | trixter: you seem to have this idea that FSF owns some Asterisk code. In fact, they don't. None. Zero. Zilch. Zip. |
| 20:00.14 | trixter | um |
| 20:00.17 | J4k3 | tzanger: shh, I'm trying to get trixter's attorney richer. |
| 20:00.18 | trixter | J4k3: you are a total idiot |
| 20:00.26 | trixter | I already said I DONT OWN THE LICENSES |
| 20:00.32 | dudes | Dr-Linux - in the general context in sip.conf ... |
| 20:00.33 | trixter | how am I supposed to profit off digiums t heft? |
| 20:00.34 | J4k3 | trixter: if you feel you have suffered a loss, do something about it... otherwise STFU. |
| 20:00.36 | trixter | please explain |
| 20:00.39 | tzanger | trixter: so notify the people who do have the licenses and let them take care of it |
| 20:00.44 | trixter | I never said I suffered a loss |
| 20:00.46 | Corydon-w | trixter: that's because DIGIUM OWNS THE LICENSES |
| 20:00.46 | J4k3 | trixter: then stfu. |
| 20:00.49 | trixter | i said digium stole code |
| 20:00.58 | trixter | which is something that peoplke here aparently take great offense to |
| 20:00.58 | Corydon-w | Digium has not stolen any code. |
| 20:01.12 | Qwell | grep -ri fsf * | grep -v "Binary file" | wc -l |
| 20:01.12 | Qwell | 0 |
| 20:01.12 | trixter | digium sells code under ABE for which has not been asisgned nor do they own |
| 20:01.13 | ManxPowe | I don't see FSF anywhere in the zaptel, libpri, asterisk, source. |
| 20:01.14 | J4k3 | trixter: nobody wants to hear another idiot like yourself go off for hours. |
| 20:01.14 | trixter | that is theft |
| 20:01.15 | Corydon-w | trixter: show me the stolen code or shut the fuck up |
| 20:01.15 | tzanger | so far it's all just rumour and speculation. Since you're not willing to go the distance you instead just choose to fuck around and incite FUD. |
| 20:01.22 | hypa7ia | trixter: i would take great offence if you could showany code :) |
| 20:01.31 | trixter | J4k3: yes we dont want to hear you |
| 20:01.33 | Dr-Linux | dudes: yes, but what should i do in extensions.conf to catch them? or route then to a dialplan context? |
| 20:01.34 | trixter | but you really are funny |
| 20:01.38 | ManxPowe | Now, if you can site something SPECIFIC then do so. |
| 20:01.38 | tzanger | trixter: do you know that they have not already negotiated alternative licensing for said code with the code authors? |
| 20:01.44 | dudes | make an extension that matches the number |
| 20:01.46 | trixter | between you and qwell this channel is quite funny |
| 20:01.50 | J4k3 | maybe trixter should go read something about reverse dns. |
| 20:01.59 | trixter | with the FSF? they give out commercial licenses? |
| 20:01.59 | Qwell | J4k3: or the gpl |
| 20:02.08 | J4k3 | I think asterisk is above his head... he can't even get his own rdns working. |
| 20:02.11 | trixter | I didnt realize that the FSF allowed their gpl code to go commercial |
| 20:02.21 | tzanger | trixter: which code? answer that ONE question |
| 20:02.22 | Dr-Linux | dudes: |
| 20:02.28 | trixter | read the asterisk-biz list |
| 20:02.31 | Qwell | you've been asked that ONE question by 10 different people. :) |
| 20:02.33 | ManxPowe | tzanger, We both know he can't. |
| 20:02.33 | trixter | I specifically stated code exmaplesx there |
| 20:02.34 | tzanger | trixter: give me a link |
| 20:02.36 | trixter | and did in here the opther day |
| 20:02.57 | trixter | and kpflemming yes a real digium employee acknowledged that digium is infact using code that way |
| 20:03.01 | Corydon-w | and yet, you can't do so now |
| 20:03.04 | Dr-Linux | dudes: under the which context in extensions.conf? |
| 20:03.05 | hypa7ia | then you should have the links handy, no? |
| 20:03.08 | trixter | even manxpower responded to it |
| 20:03.09 | tzanger | that list is only topped by -users for amount of traffic. Give me a subject line or a link |
| 20:03.11 | *** join/#asterisk florz (n=florz@2001:1a50:503c:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 20:03.15 | trixter | so he knows its there but refuses to admit it |
| 20:03.19 | trixter | it was just a couple days ago on the list |
| 20:03.23 | ManxPowe | trixter, as do you. |
| 20:03.25 | dudes | the same context you set in sip.conf |
| 20:03.42 | J4k3 | trixter: take it up with people who might care, which is obviously not #asterisk |
| 20:03.45 | dudes | it's not rocket science |
| 20:03.54 | trixter | hey if I have to file a bug report at bugs.digium.com you have to google for licensing on the asterisk-biz list witihn the last couple days |
| 20:04.02 | J4k3 | trixter: otherwise you sound like another asshat who can't configure his shit and feels the urge to cry about it. |
| 20:04.17 | trixter | J4k3: I know #asterisk largely doesnt care that digium is violating licenses and stealing code, that is becuase they are blinded by their fanboi status |
| 20:04.29 | trixter | right I cant configure it becuase of a lciense issue |
| 20:04.31 | trixter | that makes sense |
| 20:04.32 | hypa7ia | ahem |
| 20:04.32 | tzanger | trixter: you can't even give me a subject line? |
| 20:04.36 | hypa7ia | fangirl thanks |
| 20:04.47 | Qwell | hypa7ia: omg, you're a...girl?! |
| 20:04.49 | Qwell | :) |
| 20:04.49 | J4k3 | trixter: hey, feel free to go buy an answering machine... you've got three choices... tape, microtape, or digital! |
| 20:04.56 | tzanger | trixter: ahh now I see it |
| 20:04.57 | trixter | ya know I gave you specific examples last week in here |
| 20:05.03 | trixter | and you made excuses then for the specific code |
| 20:05.03 | hypa7ia | Qwell: i lie. there are clearly no girls on the internet |
| 20:05.04 | Qwell | J4k3: could probably do hi8 nowadays |
| 20:05.06 | trixter | it was a waste of time |
| 20:05.07 | tzanger | you started the thread and you can't even give me a subject line |
| 20:05.09 | tzanger | lame |
| 20:05.10 | Qwell | hypa7ia: yeah, that's what I thought |
| 20:05.12 | ManxPowe | Results 1 - 10 of about 174 from lists.digium.com for asterisk-biz licensing. (0.12 seconds) |
| 20:05.13 | trixter | why I went to asterisk-biz and kevin was more helpful |
| 20:05.28 | dudes | Where do all the geeky women hang |
| 20:05.30 | tzanger | the thread is "distribution of asterisk" started by trixter himself this past Thursday |
| 20:05.32 | J4k3 | trixter: you're the one crying about bad coders and then crying about licenses... Your "stupid troll" hat is showing. |
| 20:05.40 | trixter | ahh so you have the thread |
| 20:05.41 | trixter | I see |
| 20:05.44 | Qwell | tzanger: link? |
| 20:05.45 | dudes | * is kind of a weeny roast |
| 20:05.50 | J4k3 | no, I read the text since I joined |
| 20:05.52 | *** join/#asterisk |dennis| (i=dennis@200.32.215.84) |
| 20:05.56 | *** join/#asterisk perlmonkee (i=oginvu@c-24-22-125-15.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 20:05.57 | tzanger | I odn't have a link, this is in my kmail folder |
| 20:06.03 | trixter | J4k3: you keep saying things about me ... like calling me a troll as if you are trolling |
| 20:06.04 | trixter | I see |
| 20:06.11 | trixter | Ahh so you have the email |
| 20:06.19 | trixter | the very one you implied didnt even exist earlier |
| 20:06.21 | trixter | I see |
| 20:06.23 | J4k3 | and I can tell you're a fucking crybaby who can't configure his shit and you're gonna piss and moan until somebody finally laughs at you hard enough that you find your way back under your rock. |
| 20:06.27 | ManxPowe | tzanger, does he say anything sane? |
| 20:06.28 | *** join/#asterisk amir (n=amir@shield.guindehi.ch) |
| 20:06.29 | dudes | We chat in * cause we're bored |
| 20:06.30 | Qwell | not googlable |
| 20:06.33 | tzanger | ManxPowe: reading it now |
| 20:06.39 | perlmonkee | Can someone direct me to a guide on setting up Asterisk with an IA92 modem? I know the information is out there, I just can't find it. Is it in the help docs that came with Asterisk? |
| 20:06.41 | tzanger | basically it's about editline and the BSD license |
| 20:06.42 | dudes | you just add excitment to the chatting adventure |
| 20:06.54 | tzanger | specifically the 3-clause (origianl) BSD license |
| 20:06.57 | Qwell | The FSF owns the copyright to BSD code? |
| 20:07.00 | Corydon-w | trixter: I read the thread... but you're wrong |
| 20:07.08 | ManxPowe | tzanger, Oh, THAT again. Lunatics again |
| 20:07.10 | trixter | go ahead and read it |
| 20:07.36 | Corydon-w | trixter: you seem to have a lack of comprehension of the differences between ownership and licenseship |
| 20:07.41 | J4k3 | trixter: ever considered getting a hobby that wasn't annoying to others? |
| 20:07.44 | trixter | right |
| 20:07.55 | J4k3 | trixter: maybe professional russian roulette? |
| 20:07.56 | trixter | digium doesnt have ownership nor assignment and the license forbids things like ABE |
| 20:08.06 | J4k3 | its a tough sport, but very rewarding! |
| 20:08.08 | Corydon-w | WRONG |
| 20:08.26 | dudes | haha |
| 20:08.28 | trixter | wrong? |
| 20:08.29 | Corydon-w | Digium has ownership, or where it doesn't have ownership, it has permission to license |
| 20:08.38 | gnosys | hey folks, anyone here using the DIALSTATUS variable? I must be missing something because I'm getting unexpected results when using it. This is v1.2.1. |
| 20:08.48 | Corydon-w | But Digium owns most of the code |
| 20:08.48 | tzanger | ok |
| 20:08.50 | trixter | if you dont own it and you dont have the right to alter the license and you dont follow the terms of the license you are somehow magically lciensed? |
| 20:08.52 | bweschke | gnosys: how are you using it? |
| 20:08.54 | dudes | the fact is, if you don't patch * someone who is clearly a better coder will |
| 20:08.55 | tzanger | as usual, Kevin Fleming is the voice of reason |
| 20:08.55 | jake1932 | gnosys: what are you getting? |
| 20:08.59 | trixter | no it doesnt have permission in all cases |
| 20:09.01 | tzanger | but it looks like it's not enough for trixter |
| 20:09.05 | trixter | that was my point |
| 20:09.11 | Corydon-w | trixter: how are they not following the terms of a license? |
| 20:09.11 | trixter | it specifically doesnt have permission in all cases |
| 20:09.12 | ManxPowe | gnosys, using ANALOG FXO ports? |
| 20:09.16 | trixter | ABE |
| 20:09.18 | gnosys | example line from extensions.conf: exten => _NXXXXXX,10,GotoIf([${DIALSTATUS} = BUSY]?20:50) |
| 20:09.27 | tzanger | Kevin states that they will correct the lack of printing "GPL and other licenses" ... thus bringing the code up to spec |
| 20:09.29 | trixter | they take FSF gpl code specifically and license it not under the terms of the gpl |
| 20:09.34 | ManxPowe | gnosys, using ANALOG FXO ports? |
| 20:09.40 | J4k3 | trixter: you realize your statements toward Digium are slanderous... they can and should be treated accordingly. |
| 20:09.44 | gnosys | yes, ANALOG FXO port |
| 20:09.46 | ManxPowe | trixter, there is no FSF code in Asterisk |
| 20:09.46 | trixter | the FSF did NOT give digium the right to take their code and make a commercial non gpl product out of it |
| 20:09.46 | bweschke | gnosys: manxpowe is spot on. What kind of ports are you using? FXO analog ports cannot sense call progress. |
| 20:09.47 | Qwell | trixter: You've still not shown fsf code |
| 20:09.49 | Corydon-w | trixter: again, you're confusing a license with ownership |
| 20:09.56 | ManxPowe | gnosys, You don't get that info on analog FXO ports |
| 20:10.06 | trixter | J4k3: god I hope digium sues me over LIBEL cause its in print not SLANDER cause its not spoken |
| 20:10.06 | gnosys | Oh... |
| 20:10.07 | RoyK | no |
| 20:10.10 | Qwell | BSD != FSF |
| 20:10.12 | Corydon-w | The GPL is a license written by FSF... but using their license does NOT assign ownership to FSF |
| 20:10.12 | trixter | becuase that would be too funny |
| 20:10.14 | RoyK | digital fx[os] ports |
| 20:10.20 | gnosys | what about CHANUNAVAIL for FXO ports? |
| 20:10.21 | trixter | qwellYOU ARE RIGHT, i SAID THE fsf |
| 20:10.22 | RoyK | pure isdn fxo |
| 20:10.27 | Qwell | trixter: So, where is the fsf code? |
| 20:10.31 | ManxPowe | gnosys, that would work |
| 20:10.33 | Qwell | editline is bsd |
| 20:10.37 | J4k3 | trixter: IRC is easiest pushed as slander. |
| 20:10.40 | tzanger | yup |
| 20:10.49 | tzanger | trixter is just trolling |
| 20:10.59 | J4k3 | tzanger: yeah, but its more fun when trolls dance. |
| 20:11.03 | tzanger | basically he is saying that asterisk from 1997 wasn't compliant |
| 20:11.05 | trixter | irc isnt spoken |
| 20:11.08 | ManxPowe | There is no FSF code in Asterisk |
| 20:11.12 | trixter | thus it doesnt qualify as slander |
| 20:11.12 | dudes | You know that song "Every OS sucks" |
| 20:11.14 | trixter | yes there is |
| 20:11.16 | dudes | that's funny |
| 20:11.17 | trixter | want me to get you some? |
| 20:11.21 | J4k3 | trixter: then you should tell some judges that. |
| 20:11.21 | Qwell | trixter: yes |
| 20:11.25 | Qwell | line numbers, file names |
| 20:11.25 | tzanger | kevin said they'll fix the lack of copyrights (which is only a GUIDELINE as per the new rules post-'97) but he continues his quest |
| 20:11.25 | trixter | very well then |
| 20:11.26 | ManxPowe | There is no FSF code in Asterisk |
| 20:11.29 | dudes | trixter - I'd take a cookie |
| 20:11.31 | trixter | since you cant read the thread about this |
| 20:11.38 | J4k3 | trixter: basically its being viewed as 'slander' in multiuser locations, and 'libel' if you decide to write an essay over it. |
| 20:11.39 | perlmonkee | Can someone direct me to a guide on setting up Asterisk with an IA92 modem? I know the information is out there, I just can't find it. Is it in the help docs that came with Asterisk? |
| 20:11.40 | gnosys | What I want is for an outbound call to roll over and use the second Zap line if the first Zap line is already in use. I thought I had DIALSTATUS=CHANUNAVAIL working a half hour ago, but inxce then, it's not working for me. |
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| 20:11.45 | tzanger | hell even others have stated this and even corrected tixter on it, but he persists |
| 20:11.49 | perlmonkee | oops - sorry, didn't mean to re-ask =/ Stupid up arrow. |
| 20:11.52 | RoyK | ManxPowe: there are several excerts of glibc copied into asterisk :) |
| 20:11.54 | dudes | I like cookies. |
| 20:12.01 | dudes | cookies and coffee |
| 20:12.03 | J4k3 | I like trollmeat. |
| 20:12.08 | J4k3 | it makes great kabobs. |
| 20:12.09 | *** join/#asterisk mhnoyes (n=mhnoyes@user-2ivfni5.dialup.mindspring.com) |
| 20:12.20 | RoyK | wtf is a kabob? |
| 20:12.20 | ManxPowe | gnosys, CHANUNAVAIL would mean the channel is in use, not that the destination number is busy |
| 20:12.20 | RoyK | kebab? |
| 20:12.27 | J4k3 | whatever |
| 20:12.29 | J4k3 | meat on a stick. |
| 20:12.34 | *** part/#asterisk mhnoyes (n=mhnoyes@user-2ivfni5.dialup.mindspring.com) |
| 20:12.36 | tzanger | ManxPowe: ? |
| 20:12.39 | RoyK | ~nickometer J4k3 |
| 20:12.41 | dudes | whisky cokes are good but BV Cherry cokes are bomb |
| 20:12.43 | ManxPowe | perlmonkee, it's treated as an X100P |
| 20:12.48 | dudes | with a side of troll and a cookie |
| 20:13.00 | perlmonkee | ManxPowe: thank you, I'll look for a guide at setting that up then. |
| 20:13.01 | gnosys | ManxPowe: that's what I'm after. |
| 20:13.14 | NewSole | ~nickometer NewSole |
| 20:13.15 | J4k3 | RoyK's stupidometer: 87% - Norwegian |
| 20:13.21 | J4k3 | .no means no. |
| 20:13.23 | tzanger | trixter: did I distill the thread correctly? |
| 20:13.29 | RoyK | J4k3: no my idea :) |
| 20:13.32 | gnosys | So, is CHANUNAVAIL the only status that DIALSTATUS variable can sense? |
| 20:13.38 | ManxPowe | gnosys, put a Noop(DIALSTATUS is ${DIALSTATUS} as the priority after the dial so you can see what it ACTUALLY is |
| 20:13.42 | bweschke | gnosys: why not use zap groups and just Dial Zap/G# ? |
| 20:13.46 | Qwell | gnosys: there are a few. show application dial should show them all |
| 20:13.57 | trixter | cdr_tds.c |
| 20:13.58 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:13.58 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.00 | Qwell | CHANUNAVAIL | CONGESTION | NOANSWER | BUSY | ANSWER | CANCEL |
| 20:14.00 | Qwell | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.00 | J4k3 | RoyK: yeah, and we can still point and laugh. |
| 20:14.10 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.10 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.10 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.10 | trixter | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.14 | tzanger | Qwell: TORTURE? |
| 20:14.16 | ManxPowe | gnosys, Analog FXO ports cannot receive status information from the telco |
| 20:14.16 | trixter | total rip from libc |
| 20:14.18 | Qwell | lgpl |
| 20:14.30 | gnosys | thanks folks... some good ideas there. I'm unfamiliar with zap groups... I'll hafta read up on it. |
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| 20:14.34 | trixter | lgpl doesnt let you RIP CODE AND INCLUDE THAT CODE INTO YOUR PROJECT UNDER DIFFERENT LCIENSES |
| 20:14.37 | bweschke | keep pasting trixter.. maybe you'll get banned for flooding and we can get back to solving problems instead of this nonsense |
| 20:14.43 | tzanger | trixter: (I honestly don't know) is cdr_tds *in* ABE? |
| 20:14.54 | Qwell | tzanger: probably in addons :p |
| 20:15.00 | RoyK | trixter: even lgpl can't be source-ripped without breaking the license |
| 20:15.00 | J4k3 | trixter: look you stupid fucking faggot, read the whole fucking license before someone feels the urge to disconnect your internet for you. |
| 20:15.01 | tzanger | I know I certainly don't use it in my installs |
| 20:15.04 | trixter | becuase digium has straight up ripped code from an lgpl product in asterisk ABE is in violation of the FSF's lgpl rights |
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| 20:15.13 | RoyK | Qwell: nope. the libc code is in the asterisk cvs/svn tree |
| 20:15.22 | trixter | J4k3: good one ... you are too funnyy |
| 20:15.25 | NewSole | here is a good one....... |
| 20:15.26 | tzanger | J4k3: chill. you don't win arguments with threats and ad-hominem attacks |
| 20:15.26 | RoyK | for those systems not having a recent libc.... |
| 20:15.37 | NewSole | lets take trixter's example..... |
| 20:15.37 | trixter | no he doesnt win arguments no matter what he does |
| 20:15.41 | trixter | why he has to threaten |
| 20:15.42 | tzanger | trixter: again, do you know if cdr_tds is in ABE? |
| 20:15.49 | trixter | ohh j4k3 is a packet kidde I phear |
| 20:15.57 | trixter | according to kpflemming it is |
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| 20:16.06 | J4k3 | tzanger: trixter's IP just sent my mail server a bunch of spam! I wonder how his provider feels about that! |
| 20:16.11 | trixter | further that means that asterisk isnt totally gpled |
| 20:16.13 | Blankman | Hey gang. |
| 20:16.13 | ManxPowe | trixter, do you have a copy of ABE? |
| 20:16.27 | trixter | J4k3: go ahead and call em |
| 20:16.27 | tzanger | trixter: ok, and he's said that this is on his list of things to do, and asked if you were willing to help him. I notice you have not responded to that. |
| 20:16.28 | trixter | please |
| 20:16.44 | tzanger | J4k3: good luck with that. |
| 20:16.50 | NewSole | cause the code for sprintf was done under GPL.... then lets all hound Microsoft to Make their Windows XP and Windows 2003 GPL because it uses GPL Code |
| 20:16.52 | dudes | trixter - SPAM monkey |
| 20:16.56 | trixter | yeah good luck with the threats to get me shut off |
| 20:17.07 | ManxPowe | trixter, Now that you have cited a source progress can be made. |
| 20:17.10 | trixter | doop de doo ... still here |
| 20:17.11 | Blankman | So, I am working on making a new dial plan using the AEL stuff ... and I was wondering ... is there away to do the conditional include by time like we do in extensions.conf? The documentation on ael is still pretty light :-) |
| 20:17.19 | trixter | skript kiddie j4k3 is powerless and its funny |
| 20:17.26 | trixter | I cited several sources |
| 20:17.28 | J4k3 | trixter: are you john lundgren? |
| 20:17.37 | Qwell | Blankman: somebody was asking that question the other day. I think the concensus was that you can't use #include with AEL |
| 20:17.39 | trixter | I noticed that people started calming down about my claims though now that the proof is on my side |
| 20:17.49 | trixter | digium steals code which they dont have the right to use |
| 20:17.58 | J4k3 | I ASKED YOU A QUESTION TROLLDOLL. |
| 20:18.05 | tzanger | trixter: ok, and as I said, is under 5 business days still to short a time for you? |
| 20:18.09 | trixter | qwell: correct yet another problem I reported |
| 20:18.11 | NewSole | then lets all hound Microsoft to Make their Windows XP and Windows 2003 open source because it uses GPL Code |
| 20:18.11 | dudes | then take them to court |
| 20:18.23 | trixter | tzanger: that doesnt hcange the fact that it has been there for more than 5 business days |
| 20:18.37 | trixter | dudes: what part of I AM NOT THE FSF do you not understand? |
| 20:18.45 | RoyK | lol! the 'Schwarzenegger stadion' in Graz, .at, mr Schwarzenegger's hometown has changed the name after political protests :) |
| 20:18.46 | Corydon-w | Then you have no complaint |
| 20:18.49 | bweschke | than why are you up on their soapbox? |
| 20:18.51 | trixter | just becauyse digium steals from the free software foundation does not mean I can sue anyone |
| 20:19.00 | trixter | why are so many on digiums soapbox? |
| 20:19.00 | Corydon-w | trixter: what is your complaint? |
| 20:19.04 | trixter | they are the theives |
| 20:19.10 | tzanger | trixter: no, but you conveniently fail to respond to Kevin's help request, and you also fail to acknowlege that HE has acknowledged that he's looking in to it |
| 20:19.16 | trixter | did I? |
| 20:19.18 | Blankman | Hey Qwell ... darn. I am trying to figure out an elegant (read easy ;) way to move my old dialplans to the new forms with all the bells and whistles :-) |
| 20:19.19 | trixter | are you sure? |
| 20:19.21 | tzanger | now we come to the ad-hominems again |
| 20:19.22 | Corydon-w | trixter: you have no standing to make a complaint... so shut up already |
| 20:19.24 | tzanger | except now you're doing it |
| 20:19.26 | RoyK | trixter: stop complaining and instead spend your energy on coding for openpbx :) |
| 20:19.28 | trixter | or are you making stuff up becuase you dont know everything that is going on |
| 20:19.38 | ManxPowe | I don't see anything *I* can call FSF code in cdr_tds.c But I'd have to look at the TDS license to see if it is LGPL or GPL and also compare the source code, etc. |
| 20:19.45 | RoyK | trixter: the only way to fight digium is to help another project doing it better |
| 20:19.45 | J4k3 | trixter: you realize this isn't the place to discuss this? |
| 20:19.47 | bweschke | ya - that's us. we're all in the dark and we like it that way |
| 20:19.52 | NewSole | SOMEONE PLEASE BAN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:19.55 | trixter | correct becuase people like you are here |
| 20:20.05 | trixter | its not my fault that digium stole code from the FSF |
| 20:20.08 | trixter | I did *NOT* put that in there |
| 20:20.12 | *** part/#asterisk bmd (n=bmd@64.50.19.206) |
| 20:20.16 | trixter | but it is there none-the-less |
| 20:20.16 | tzanger | trixter: I'm saying you brought it up on Thursday. Kevin responded on Friday. You are here today, on Monday bitching and chewing, name calling and basically making a spectacle of yourself. |
| 20:20.24 | Qwell | ManxPowe: "The FreeTDS C libraries are available under the terms of the GNU LGPL license" |
| 20:20.36 | ManxPowe | Qwell, Well that resolves THAT issue. |
| 20:20.48 | ManxPowe | Qwell, unless digium took code from the source of TDS, of course. |
| 20:21.08 | RoyK | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4560182.stm |
| 20:21.09 | trixter | no the code I specifically cited came from libc |
| 20:21.15 | trixter | its cut and pasted in cdr_tds |
| 20:21.16 | ManxPowe | LGPL allows linking of non-GPL code against LGPL libs |
| 20:21.19 | NewSole | SO... lets all hound Microsoft to Make their Windows XP and Windows 2003 open source because it uses GPL Code |
| 20:21.20 | trixter | and that is just one instance |
| 20:21.21 | J4k3 | trixter: John Lundgren? 209-296-1417? |
| 20:21.22 | trixter | there are a few others |
| 20:21.23 | J4k3 | is dat joo?! |
| 20:21.26 | RoyK | trixter: that's been on the asterisk list several times |
| 20:21.33 | RoyK | trixter: and people know it |
| 20:21.36 | trixter | J4k3: ohh you can pull dox why dont you do something with that |
| 20:21.44 | J4k3 | trixter: I just did. |
| 20:21.45 | ManxPowe | trixter, Obviously a master plan to rip off FSF. |
| 20:21.52 | RoyK | trixter: i've emailed the list about that myself, so please use the effort to do something constructive |
| 20:21.55 | trixter | ahh so now the claim is that people have known for a while, so tzangers claim that its only been a few days doesnt hold |
| 20:22.10 | trixter | J4k3: good for you.. get anything interesting calling that number? |
| 20:22.23 | J4k3 | trixter: what do you expect to achieve with this conversation? |
| 20:22.30 | RoyK | trixter: CALM DOWN |
| 20:22.35 | trixter | what do you expect to achieve by dumping dox that are obviously not me |
| 20:22.38 | tzanger | trixter: no, I'm saying that Kevin saying it's on his list on Friday is not enough for you |
| 20:22.38 | NewSole | SOMEONE PLEASE BAN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:22.40 | J4k3 | trixter: I mean really... you keep pissing and moaning over something that 100% does not involve you |
| 20:22.43 | ManxPowe | No, it's been known for a long time that is not a license violation to link closed source products against LGPL libraries. |
| 20:22.44 | RoyK | trixter: it's far better to stop worring about the digium shite |
| 20:22.48 | trixter | I am not the one upset and threatening to drop my connection packet kiddie style |
| 20:22.50 | trixter | then failing |
| 20:22.53 | RoyK | NewSole: and please shut up and stop repeating yourself |
| 20:22.56 | trixter | then threatening to call my isp and get me shut off |
| 20:22.57 | tzanger | trixter: you can bitch and moan all you like, but you're just showing that you're being unreasonable |
| 20:22.58 | trixter | then failing |
| 20:23.01 | ManxPowe | NewSole, people don't usually get banned |
| 20:23.04 | trixter | then dumping dox that are obviously not me |
| 20:23.04 | J4k3 | trixter: I'm not going to packet anything, I'm just being a dick. |
| 20:23.19 | RoyK | trixter: the good way to stop digium is by competition. not by whining on #asterisk |
| 20:23.23 | trixter | ManxPowe: ripping code cut and psaste style isnt linking |
| 20:23.31 | fugitivo | ban who? |
| 20:23.39 | ManxPowe | trixter, correct. I cannot comment on THAT claim. |
| 20:23.42 | tzanger | being unreasonable, ESPECIALLY since you're raising all this fuss and you're not the copyright holder and indeed don't even know if Digium has made arrangements WITH the copyright holder. |
| 20:23.43 | *** join/#asterisk Ariel_ (n=Ariel@dsl-20-177.cofs.net) |
| 20:23.44 | trixter | and relicensing those bits of code is not under the terms of the lgpl |
| 20:24.01 | RoyK | ManxPowe: it's indeed a violation, but please don't talk about that here... |
| 20:24.04 | J4k3 | tzanger: neither does trixter... |
| 20:24.10 | J4k3 | tzanger: but he's too stupid to understand |
| 20:24.11 | tzanger | I mean honestly, no judge in the world is going to say "cease and decist immediately" -- they'll say "are these claims valid" and that's precisely what Digium's doing. |
| 20:24.15 | trixter | I am just glad that people admitted that digium knew about it for a long time ... cause that makes it funnier that so many are upset over me quoting from the asterisk source tree over this |
| 20:24.16 | ManxPowe | It HAS been a while since we had a good flamewar here. |
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| 20:24.24 | jake1932 | i'm surprised by all this. even if it is a problem, is there something on #asterisk that can be done? |
| 20:24.32 | RoyK | yes |
| 20:24.32 | trixter | J4k3: so got any more dox to dump? |
| 20:24.35 | Qwell | ManxPowe: yeah, and I assume it'll be a while more before we do |
| 20:24.35 | fugitivo | let's start a db war |
| 20:24.36 | RoyK | we can save the world! |
| 20:24.37 | tzanger | trixter: who's upset at you for that? We're upset with you for not going through proper channels and basically being a dick about it. |
| 20:24.40 | Qwell | this most certainly isn't a good one |
| 20:24.41 | jake1932 | are we all going to gang up on digium? |
| 20:24.45 | RoyK | trixter: email the list and see if it helps |
| 20:24.47 | trixter | cause um if you knew anything about pulling dox you would be able to at least get my name correct |
| 20:24.48 | riddlebox | I am trying to default a sipura, that I got from broadvoice, but cant seem to do, anyone got any tips for me? |
| 20:24.52 | RoyK | trixter: it WILL NOT help whining here |
| 20:24.58 | trixter | RoyK: as stated not only I have but others have in the past |
| 20:25.00 | trixter | it didnt help |
| 20:25.01 | RoyK | riddlebox: is it locked? |
| 20:25.05 | NewSole | trixter.... just cause my underwear says I have Big Balls does not mean I do |
| 20:25.11 | RoyK | trixter: then /j #openpbx |
| 20:25.17 | trixter | I am there |
| 20:25.22 | tzanger | NewSole: you have Big Balls underwear? |
| 20:25.25 | riddlebox | I guess, I dont have the admin password, but I found a code to default it, but it doesnt seem to work |
| 20:25.25 | trixter | as well as a few other places |
| 20:25.27 | jake1932 | eww |
| 20:25.29 | ManxPowe | riddlebox, they usually lock them down. |
| 20:25.32 | trixter | that still doesnt get rid of the code theft |
| 20:25.33 | jake1932 | TMI |
| 20:25.34 | fugitivo | damn, i came late and i don't know what you're talking about |
| 20:25.36 | RoyK | trixter: try emailing the opbx list and ask if this is a violation |
| 20:25.41 | Johnnie | trixter: Even if you are right (which I doubt), you're disrupting an entire channel dedicated to the support and development of Asterisk. |
| 20:25.42 | RoyK | trixter: i beleive the same code is in opbx |
| 20:25.46 | tzanger | trixter: nor does your claim prove that there has indeed been theft |
| 20:25.48 | riddlebox | how do I unlock it then? |
| 20:25.52 | Johnnie | So, please, take it up with Digium, Inc., not everyone here. |
| 20:25.53 | trixter | ahh support of code theft |
| 20:25.56 | RoyK | riddlebox: you need a password |
| 20:25.58 | tzanger | trixter: basically THEY ARE LOOKKING INTO IT |
| 20:26.10 | Qwell | RoyK: openpbx are accomplices! :P |
| 20:26.18 | tzanger | trixter: if that's not enough for you then fine, admit it and go through the proper channels to get the sale of ABE stopped... but whining here just isn't how it's done. |
| 20:26.20 | trixter | I am not the one that is whining, I am not the one that is flooding to have me banned I am not the one that is threatening to 'kill my connection' or dumping innocent peopels dox |
| 20:26.20 | RoyK | Qwell: hehehe :) |
| 20:26.26 | Qwell | RoyK: conspiracy, I tell ya |
| 20:26.31 | trixter | I am not the one that is creating the vast majority of lines of text in this conversation |
| 20:26.31 | RoyK | Qwell: it's a fork, so there's still a lot of bad code in there :) |
| 20:26.33 | jake1932 | you're neither supporting nor preventing code theft by chatting on the #asterisk channel |
| 20:26.56 | dudes | jake1932 - didn't you know what you type comes true! |
| 20:26.57 | trixter | ahh so if its only about supporting |
| 20:27.02 | Johnnie | trixter: Don't disrupt the happy flow of things and you won't have over 250 channel participants on your back. |
| 20:27.04 | trixter | then why dont all of you do what you are telling me to do |
| 20:27.08 | tzanger | trixter: you haven't responded to any of my questions but you are not doing anything constructive to solve this either so yes, you are whining. |
| 20:27.09 | trixter | if that is after all what is to happen |
| 20:27.14 | jake1932 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.15 | NewSole | WE ARE NOT DIGIUM..... WE ARE ASTERISK USERS AND PROGRAMMERS...... GOT A PROBLEM WITH LICENSES TAKE IT UP WITH DIGIUM OR BUY MICROSOFT LIVE CENTER.... |
| 20:27.16 | RoyK | trixter: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not whine about this in here. it will not help |
| 20:27.19 | trixter | instead of whiniung to me about everything why dont ytouy all follow your own advice? |
| 20:27.25 | trixter | please stop whining to me |
| 20:27.28 | trixter | please |
| 20:27.32 | trixter | you guys whine WAY too much |
| 20:27.37 | ManxPowe | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.38 | ManxPowe | much better |
| 20:27.38 | jake1932 | we're just a bunch of users |
| 20:27.40 | tzanger | actually I'm following my own advice, and I suggest everyone do the same... /ignore trixter. |
| 20:27.44 | Johnnie | It's too bad we don't have a channel operator handy. |
| 20:27.49 | trixter | you are a bunch of lusers |
| 20:27.51 | trixter | whining all the time |
| 20:27.52 | dudes | digium will stop stealing code, microsoft will Open it's source, and * has no bugs. Also there will be world peace |
| 20:27.55 | Blankman | Ummm ... on another note ... Any one want to talk about a good generic AA tied to the ael and realtime stuff? |
| 20:27.58 | tzanger | He's made his point, it's been acknowledged, but he still won't shut up. It's the only sane solution |
| 20:28.02 | Qwell | Blankman: AA? |
| 20:28.07 | Blankman | Auto attendant |
| 20:28.10 | ManxPowe | Johnnie, if everyone ignores him we don't need to ban |
| 20:28.11 | trixter | RoyK: we are already there by the looks of all of you whining |
| 20:28.13 | NewSole | lol @ dudes |
| 20:28.17 | RoyK | Qwell: anonymous alcoholic |
| 20:28.27 | RoyK | trixter: stfu |
| 20:28.29 | Johnnie | ManxPowe: Done. :) |
| 20:28.31 | trixter | tzanger: that is because people like you are still whining |
| 20:28.32 | Qwell | RoyK: That the type that pays cash at bars? |
| 20:28.32 | trixter | and royk |
| 20:28.34 | ManxPowe | Ariel_, By using Ninjas, of course. |
| 20:28.42 | Blankman | I have a generic one that runs with app_sql calls ... |
| 20:28.47 | trixter | if you guys would stop being little cry babies maybe this would end |
| 20:28.49 | Blankman | In the old style |
| 20:28.50 | jake1932 | trixter: clearly trolling now |
| 20:28.53 | dudes | Ariel_ - you just copy and paste |
| 20:28.54 | trixter | but instead you have to whine about every little thing |
| 20:29.01 | Johnnie | Ninjas... LOL |
| 20:29.05 | tzanger | Ariel_: basically there is LGPL code in ABE that trixter has no claim to it being there improperly, kpfleming's said he's looking into it, but trixter just won't shut up about it or take it to the proper place (the FSF) |
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| 20:29.11 | NewSole | as far as I can see trixter your the one whining |
| 20:29.12 | jake1932 | trixter: or trying to start a riot? |
| 20:29.18 | trixter | see still whining |
| 20:29.22 | jake1932 | a digital riot |
| 20:29.26 | trixter | god damn dont you guys ever stop whining? |
| 20:29.39 | trixter | like 10 of you have been whining for 30 minutes |
| 20:29.41 | dudes | nah |
| 20:29.51 | ManxPowe | Johnnie, Unfortunalty it's only effective if most people do it. |
| 20:29.51 | Qwell | This will be fun |
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| 20:30.11 | Blankman | As far as I can tell, there is no good usuable examples of a working generic AA in ael ... anyone make one yet? |
| 20:30.13 | dudes | I'm just waking up then going to get to work |
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| 20:30.51 | file | mmm pizza |
| 20:30.59 | dudes | pizza's good |
| 20:31.03 | trixter | Blankman: define AA |
| 20:31.22 | RoyK | ~aa |
| 20:31.26 | jbot | test |
| 20:31.32 | dudes | Abusive Alcoholic |
| 20:31.34 | ManxPowe | Blankman, AFIK AEL is just translated into standard extensions.conf internally. If there was a way to convert extensions.conf to AEL automatically it would help a lot of things. I don't know if there is or not. |
| 20:32.13 | dudes | cool, that was a ride! |
| 20:32.47 | Johnnie | Got quiet all of a sudden. |
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| 20:33.14 | NewSole | so now the whining is done... lets all hound Microsoft to Make their Windows XP and Windows 2003 Server Open Src cause They user GPL Code in some of their Core |
| 20:33.27 | Johnnie | haha |
| 20:33.35 | ManxPowe | NewSole!*@* added to ignore list. |
| 20:33.53 | NewSole | lol |
| 20:34.13 | ManxPowe | Wow, only 4 people on my /ignore list. |
| 20:34.41 | trixter | windows products are availabe in code form |
| 20:34.47 | trixter | has been for years |
| 20:34.55 | Qwell | NewSole: I suggest you drop it too... |
| 20:35.02 | seele_ | please help with a SIP phone on asterisk@home |
| 20:35.21 | Qwell | seele_: ask your question |
| 20:35.31 | seele_ | I can recive calls from others extensions but cant generate calls from any SIP phone |
| 20:36.17 | trixter | my guess is you dont have a good dialplan |
| 20:36.22 | trixter | at least for the context that your phone is in |
| 20:36.31 | seele_ | why? |
| 20:36.44 | seele_ | I really dont know how to config a good dialplan |
| 20:36.56 | dudes | that mysql_app for * is pretty slick |
| 20:37.08 | Qwell | seele_: What happens when you try to make a call? |
| 20:37.43 | gnosys | thanks for the zap group suggestion, folks. Works like a charm. Would I use the DIALSTATUS variable if all outgoing lines are tied up, though, to notify the outbound-caller that all outbound lines are in use? Or is there a way to do that with zap groups or some other concept? |
| 20:37.47 | seele_ | Look, i can only make calls from and to "inner" extensions |
| 20:37.59 | Ariel_ | seele_, there is a site here for amp users which comes with aah it's #amportal |
| 20:38.03 | seele_ | I cant get Outside tone |
| 20:38.20 | Ariel_ | outside tone???? |
| 20:38.20 | seele_ | Thnx Ariel_ |
| 20:38.28 | Ariel_ | humm that does not sound right |
| 20:38.44 | seele_ | Like outside the Office PBX |
| 20:38.51 | Ariel_ | sip phones don't actaully give you ever an outside tone. you dial and number then it's router to where it's suppose to go to. |
| 20:39.14 | seele_ | Well thats exactly what i'm trying to figure out. |
| 20:39.34 | seele_ | i dont know which extension gives me the "outside calls" |
| 20:39.43 | Ariel_ | seele_, when you dial out do you get a laday telling you all is busy |
| 20:40.08 | Ariel_ | you don't have an extension you setup your dial plan on what you want it to do |
| 20:40.23 | seele_ | Ariel_, yes its sounds busy |
| 20:41.09 | Ariel_ | did you create a trunk for your outside dialing? is it sip or zap or iax? |
| 20:41.43 | seele_ | Ariel_, I'm using a TDM400 with a 3 FXS and 1 FXO |
| 20:42.11 | Ariel_ | ok so you have one outside line |
| 20:42.17 | seele_ | yes |
| 20:42.26 | Ariel_ | did you auto configure your zap ports with aah |
| 20:42.43 | seele_ | Ariel_, no |
| 20:42.47 | znoG | hrm, to write a custom field using cdr_mysql, do I have to modify cdr_mysql.c or is there an easier way? |
| 20:43.06 | Ariel_ | seele_, well I guess you need to so some reading of there hand book. |
| 20:43.12 | bweschke | znog: why not use some of the existing "user" fields in the CDR? |
| 20:43.26 | Ariel_ | but go to the linux box and at the prompt do genzaptelconf -d |
| 20:43.38 | znoG | bweschke: there is more than one? i saw just one, called "userfield". |
| 20:43.53 | bweschke | znog: one sec, checking... |
| 20:43.55 | znoG | bweschke: am I supposed to do, for example, Set(CDR(userfield)=whatever) ?? |
| 20:44.16 | bweschke | just one... |
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| 20:44.23 | seele_ | Ariel_, I can recieve calls from outside but I can't generate calls from Inside extensions |
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| 20:44.43 | Qwell | znoG: Just add a column...like |
| 20:44.59 | Qwell | SET(CDR(znoG)="znoG rocks!") |
| 20:45.00 | bweschke | there's an app_setcdruserfield |
| 20:45.02 | Qwell | So, add a znoG column |
| 20:45.07 | seele_ | Ariel_, and from SIP phones I can recive from other extension but I can't call to other extensions |
| 20:45.08 | mogorman | zomg ! ITS QWELL |
| 20:45.09 | bweschke | but I think that's deprecated |
| 20:45.12 | Qwell | zomg?! |
| 20:45.21 | mogorman | zoh my god |
| 20:45.22 | seele_ | Ariel_, too many problems sorry jejeje |
| 20:45.27 | Qwell | ahh, gotcha |
| 20:45.32 | Qwell | mogorman: You missed the Digium flamewar. :) |
| 20:45.46 | mogorman | oh no? |
| 20:45.50 | mogorman | what happened |
| 20:45.54 | Qwell | the usual |
| 20:45.57 | mogorman | i have been to relaxed |
| 20:46.01 | mogorman | off my game |
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| 20:46.23 | mogorman | holidays do that to you |
| 20:46.27 | Qwell | indeed |
| 20:46.50 | mogorman | yeah i havent touched my code for 4 days |
| 20:46.54 | mogorman | thats longest in a month |
| 20:46.55 | Qwell | eeps |
| 20:46.59 | seele_ | Ariel_, you can you help me with the aah? |
| 20:47.05 | znoG | Qwell: that works when using cdr_custom, but since MySQL has certain columns defined, I don't think it would write a custom CDR value like the one you wrote |
| 20:47.16 | Qwell | znoG: sure? I'll look at the code... |
| 20:47.28 | Ariel_ | seele_, please go to the other channel and start at step one or one of the problems at a time. |
| 20:47.37 | znoG | Qwell: unless it sticks it in the userfield.. i'll try it then report back |
| 20:47.48 | Qwell | znoG: cdr_mysql? |
| 20:48.01 | seele_ | oks |
| 20:48.03 | _Sam-- | using the new realtime stuff if 1.2 if you use SQL tables to configure, say extensions...when you make a change in the table, you don't need to reload anything in asterisk? |
| 20:49.01 | gnosys | Hey folks, can anyone see a problem with this snippet from extensions.conf? It doesn't work as expected (http://pastebin.com/479536). Instead, I get this: http://pastebin.com/479539 |
| 20:49.17 | Qwell | znoG: yeah, guess not |
| 20:49.36 | bweschke | znog: use SetCDRUserField() |
| 20:49.46 | bweschke | that should carry into the mySQL record in the userfield |
| 20:50.25 | TheCops | _Sam-- no |
| 20:50.33 | bweschke | brb |
| 20:50.57 | dudes | gnosys - what's with 1,5,10,50 |
| 20:51.47 | _Sam-- | what would happen if you have a realtime setup and the database containing the config cant be connected to when the call comes in? |
| 20:52.01 | gnosys | dudes: aren't those the priorities? |
| 20:52.27 | TheCops | _Sam--, I dont remember if it have cache options |
| 20:52.34 | znoG | bweschke: nice, thank you. |
| 20:52.39 | dudes | sure |
| 20:52.42 | dudes | goodluck |
| 20:52.51 | Qwell | I wonder how hard it would be to add the custom stuff to mysql |
| 20:52.59 | Qwell | and/or all the others |
| 20:53.03 | znoG | bweschke: i guess if i want various bits of custom info, I can use a | delimiter or something, right? |
| 20:53.35 | Qwell | bweschke: would the new way to do that, be to SET(CDR(userfield)=blah)? |
| 20:53.47 | bweschke | znog: sure.. should work... depends how long all your stuff adds up to |
| 20:53.52 | TheCops | _Sam--, But I guess this is causing problem |
| 20:53.59 | znoG | bweschke: should be less than 255 chars |
| 20:54.13 | _Sam-- | i think it is easier to use static method over sql that way if connection breaks no big deal |
| 20:54.20 | bweschke | k |
| 20:54.35 | TheCops | _Sam--, you can do a mix of these two method |
| 20:54.54 | _Sam-- | i have some clients i think i am going to switch to a whole system on a cdrom, and have all their config and logging remotely, so a box with no hd |
| 20:55.15 | bweschke | qwell: not really sure... setting up some dynamic datastore to the underlying repository us probably the most difficult part of it I'd think |
| 20:55.27 | *** join/#asterisk Sedorox (i=brandon@smartserv/cna/Sedorox) |
| 20:58.53 | ManxPowe | I want a nap |
| 20:59.04 | Igbothom | then take one |
| 21:02.49 | _Thor | Hi... anybody knows where I can get a French DID? |
| 21:04.40 | fugitivo | in france? |
| 21:04.52 | *** part/#asterisk HedgeMage (n=me@freenode/staff/HedgeMage) |
| 21:05.27 | mogorman | we come from france |
| 21:05.50 | _Thor | anywhere, it is for someone in the USA who wants to be dialed from France |
| 21:06.22 | mogorman | why not just forge cid |
| 21:06.30 | riddlebox | well I guess I will not be getting the password to my sipura device today, doesnt seem like anyone is answering |
| 21:07.38 | _Thor | mogorman: what do you mean? |
| 21:07.52 | mogorman | i could call you |
| 21:07.58 | mogorman | and make it look like its from france |
| 21:09.01 | _Thor | this person wants a France number so that her customers from France dial a local number |
| 21:09.07 | seele_ | some asterisk help in spanish? |
| 21:09.16 | _Thor | que quieres? |
| 21:09.23 | mogorman | ? |
| 21:09.26 | seele_ | _Thor, gracias |
| 21:10.04 | seele_ | _Thor, tengo unso telefonos SIP .. puedo hacer llamadas a ellos desde una FXS normal ... pero desde los SIP no me salen llamadas |
| 21:10.17 | linlin | riddlebox |
| 21:10.22 | linlin | you can reset those devices |
| 21:10.25 | linlin | what is it a 2000? |
| 21:10.31 | riddlebox | it is a 2100 |
| 21:10.32 | _Sam-- | seele_: NAT? |
| 21:10.36 | linlin | ok open it up |
| 21:10.41 | linlin | theres a jumper on the inside |
| 21:10.44 | riddlebox | I tried the code, ****7379 |
| 21:10.48 | linlin | screws are in the rubber feet |
| 21:11.04 | seele_ | _Thor, tengo dos tarjetas TDM4000 con 3FXO y 5FXS |
| 21:11.15 | seele_ | _Sam--, why NAT? |
| 21:11.22 | *** join/#asterisk cvncpu (n=cvncpu@w167.z064000173.dfw-tx.dsl.cnc.net) |
| 21:11.25 | cvncpu | hey |
| 21:11.31 | cvncpu | are there any network buffs in here? |
| 21:11.41 | *** join/#asterisk dwmw2_gone (n=dwmw2@baythorne.infradead.org) |
| 21:12.10 | _Sam-- | es typical cuando otros no puedo oir...(sorry, no habla bien) |
| 21:12.20 | linlin | cvncpu i may be able to help |
| 21:12.23 | cvncpu | I need a router that can take 5 WAN IPs, and dish them out to 2 or 3 computers/networks |
| 21:12.28 | seele_ | _Thor, una de mis terminales SIP es una Polycom 501 |
| 21:12.56 | cvncpu | does anyone know anything about how to do this? |
| 21:14.13 | _Sam-- | si tu machina es detras de una firewall necessita NAT=y para todas oir....de otro modo todo no puedo oir sobre SIP |
| 21:14.14 | linlin | use a linux box as a router |
| 21:14.51 | mogorman | bam |
| 21:14.54 | seele_ | _Sam--, no son maquinas en una red local ... solo necesito conectar extensiones |
| 21:15.08 | _Thor | Seele: Si tu tienes una tarjeta FXS, porque estas usando telefonos IP? |
| 21:15.11 | cvncpu | yeah |
| 21:15.40 | seele_ | _Thor, por que unas extenciones son por FXS y otras por IP |
| 21:15.45 | _Sam-- | eso tiene sentido...internal SIP a PSTN |
| 21:15.50 | cvncpu | I was going to use a linux box as a router, but that would be a my first time doing that, and it's for work, so spending money is the solution to having a box that just works |
| 21:16.20 | *** join/#asterisk newbie-ast (n=newbie-a@80.93.236.106) |
| 21:16.31 | *** join/#asterisk grimse (n=grimse@p5481DE3B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:16.32 | mogorman | get a linksys then |
| 21:16.37 | mogorman | its a linux router |
| 21:16.39 | _Sam-- | pero los extensiones internal....el partido recipiente no puede oír? |
| 21:16.42 | mogorman | thatyou dont have to touch |
| 21:16.43 | newbie-ast | I got the following error message |
| 21:16.44 | seele_ | _Sam--, exacto ... pero primero a las extensiones locales |
| 21:16.53 | riddlebox | linlin: do you have documentation of that jumper? |
| 21:17.01 | ManxPowe | cvncpu, People will call me crazy, but I REALLY like Cisco 1721/1751 routers and Cisco 2621 routers. |
| 21:17.04 | newbie-ast | No application 'ChanSpy' |
| 21:17.04 | linlin | cvncpu im sure cisco makes something that will do that |
| 21:17.04 | _Thor | estas conectando los telefonos IP a la tarjeta TDM4000? |
| 21:17.22 | newbie-ast | what might be the problem and how to fix it??????? |
| 21:17.22 | linlin | is it just 5 external ip addresses or 5 external internet connections that you want to bridge |
| 21:17.25 | seele_ | _Thor, no solo a la red interna |
| 21:17.53 | seele_ | _Thor, en la TDM tengo las extensiones de otras oficinas |
| 21:18.02 | _Sam-- | nadie puede oír a la persona que llama en el sobre VOIP? |
| 21:18.08 | _Sam-- | oir |
| 21:18.09 | seele_ | _Thor, y las lineas de entrada |
| 21:18.17 | mrdigital | is _DAW around? |
| 21:18.30 | cvncpu | yeha |
| 21:18.30 | ManxPowe | newbie-ast, you are not running 1.2? |
| 21:18.33 | *** join/#asterisk eKo1 (n=bernd@63.245.57.70) |
| 21:18.35 | ManxPowe | cvncpu, You can get both off eBay for good prices |
| 21:18.35 | seele_ | _Sam--, ni siquiera marca me da tono de ocupado |
| 21:18.51 | _Sam-- | ahhh |
| 21:18.56 | newbie-ast | @ManxPowe YES ! |
| 21:19.11 | cvncpu | I suppose the only thing I need is a switch on the WAN connection, and just plug the Servers strait into the switch, and the NAT into the switch |
| 21:19.11 | newbie-ast | I mean I do run 1.2 |
| 21:19.11 | seele_ | _Sam--, pero de las FXS si puedo marcar y hablar conlas SIP |
| 21:19.24 | ManxPowe | newbie-ast, Yes you are running 1.2 or Yes you are not running 1.2 |
| 21:19.27 | _Sam-- | eran usted capaz de registrar los teléfonos via SIP? |
| 21:19.34 | newbie-ast | I mean I do run 1.2 |
| 21:19.38 | eKo1 | i have a pri and for some reason, when i call some numbers, the ring back tone is different from the norm. What would be causing this? |
| 21:19.41 | ManxPowe | newbie-ast, then "show applications" will list the available applications |
| 21:19.59 | seele_ | _Sam--, como se si se estan registrando? |
| 21:20.09 | _Sam-- | de la consola, el tipo "sip show peers" |
| 21:20.20 | newbie-ast | I have the ChanSpy on the list |
| 21:20.25 | _Sam-- | busque su teléfono/ip |
| 21:20.35 | seele_ | _Sam--, dame un segundo |
| 21:21.03 | seele_ | _Sam--, si se ven |
| 21:21.07 | *** join/#asterisk dwmw2_gone (n=dwmw2@baythorne.infradead.org) |
| 21:21.23 | ManxPowe | newbie-ast, maybe you have a space before or after the application name. |
| 21:21.39 | seele_ | _Sam--, aparecen todas |
| 21:21.41 | ManxPowe | exten => 666,1, ChanSpy |
| 21:21.45 | ManxPowe | that would not work well |
| 21:22.44 | newbie-ast | thx :-))) It was ChanSpay written . Will try in now again |
| 21:22.52 | _Sam-- | creo que es su extensiones.conf |
| 21:23.18 | seele_ | _Sam--, lo estoy configurando dese el AMP de asterisk@home |
| 21:23.42 | _Sam-- | Arrepentido oír! |
| 21:23.44 | _Sam-- | oir |
| 21:23.47 | linlin | anyone doesn voice recognition type stuff with asterisk? |
| 21:24.09 | seele_ | _Sam--, que puedo hacer |
| 21:24.13 | mogorman | sphinx linlin |
| 21:24.15 | eKo1 | speech-to-text? |
| 21:24.16 | ManxPowe | linlin, many have tried it, all have failed |
| 21:24.20 | mogorman | voip-info tells you how |
| 21:24.23 | mogorman | bah ManxPowe |
| 21:24.26 | _Thor | Seele: cuando usas el telefono ip, no te salen las llamadas? |
| 21:24.27 | linlin | oh ok |
| 21:24.33 | linlin | it wouldnt be anything advanced |
| 21:24.33 | _Sam-- | yo utilizo el regular. .no sabe el asterisco@casa |
| 21:24.35 | mogorman | the bigest problem with it is vocab. and cpu |
| 21:24.47 | mogorman | sphinx will eat your proccessor very fast |
| 21:24.55 | ManxPowe | linlin, just be sure you are using ulaw or alaw as your codec |
| 21:24.58 | eKo1 | *chomp* |
| 21:25.06 | seele_ | _Sam--, ok dime como entonces |
| 21:25.09 | _Sam-- | Miró usted su base de datos de sql? |
| 21:25.31 | _Sam-- | eso es donde amperio almacena su configuración |
| 21:25.47 | seele_ | _Sam--, ok |
| 21:25.57 | _Sam-- | y probablemente donde su problema es |
| 21:26.09 | linlin | just an ivr voice prompt like "who do you want to talk to" and wait for a responce, then dial an extention depending on that |
| 21:26.22 | _Sam-- | verifique las extensiones en SQL |
| 21:26.25 | linlin | i think that would be pretty cool for my house |
| 21:26.28 | lofi-rev | what is the syntax for the Callerid: directive in .call files? |
| 21:27.01 | seele_ | _Sam--, como debe ser la extension SIP en el extensions.conf |
| 21:28.05 | _Sam-- | según cómo su asterisco se configure |
| 21:28.12 | eKo1 | asking again: i have a pri and for some reason, when i call some numbers, the ring back tone is different from the norm. What would be causing this? |
| 21:28.27 | ManxPowe | lofi-rev, same as in other config files: Robert Dobbs <666> |
| 21:28.30 | ManxPowe | notice the LACK of quotes |
| 21:28.35 | seele_ | _Sam--, algun ejemplo? |
| 21:28.37 | _Sam-- | si usted lo tiene en /etc/asterisk/sip.conf que toma la prioridad sobre la base de datos de SQL |
| 21:28.47 | linlin | riddlebox you ever end up crasking that box open? |
| 21:29.12 | ManxPowe | eKo1, any number of things. what do you have for priindication= |
| 21:29.33 | *** part/#asterisk cvncpu (n=cvncpu@w167.z064000173.dfw-tx.dsl.cnc.net) |
| 21:29.36 | riddlebox | linlin:yes I opened it but I would like to see documentation before I do anything |
| 21:29.51 | ManxPowe | eKo1, What are you calling FROM? SIP device, Zap device, etc |
| 21:29.54 | linlin | oh |
| 21:30.02 | linlin | see the jumper though? |
| 21:30.05 | seele_ | _Sam--, ok |
| 21:30.12 | eKo1 | prindication=outofband |
| 21:30.24 | eKo1 | i'm calling from a sip device |
| 21:30.33 | lofi-rev | ManxPowe, thanks |
| 21:30.38 | riddlebox | linlin:I see the jumper, it is the only one correct? |
| 21:30.42 | *** join/#asterisk zoo (i=nobody@ip-50-16.travedsl.de) |
| 21:30.44 | zoo | hello |
| 21:30.46 | tzanger | eKo1: priindication=outofband means that asterisk sends the IEs back instead of the audio. for most PRIs I imagine that is exactly what you want |
| 21:30.55 | ManxPowe | eKo1, The SIP device is what is generating the ringback tone UNLESS the call is answered first (like by Asterisk or by the telco) |
| 21:30.59 | _Sam-- | seele_: Ha tratado usted configurar con director de amperio que utiliza el URL proporcionó cuando usted lo establece? |
| 21:31.06 | linlin | yes |
| 21:31.13 | seele_ | _Sam--, you can answer me in english if you want |
| 21:31.17 | riddlebox | linlin:I am just a little nervous to do anything, no offense, but I am not seeing anything else about this jumper |
| 21:31.18 | _Sam-- | http://something/admin |
| 21:31.18 | linlin | if you look at the traces it is logical |
| 21:31.24 | linlin | me either |
| 21:31.29 | ManxPowe | Remember pretty much any dialplan application that plays audio to the caller will default to answering the call first |
| 21:31.33 | _Sam-- | thanks i dont speak spanish, was getting tired of pasting into a translator |
| 21:31.57 | eKo1 | Asterisk is answering the call, but i can still here the ringing |
| 21:32.06 | ManxPowe | _Sam--, You are WAY too helpful. |
| 21:32.08 | _Sam-- | did you try using the AMP web interface to configure your extensions? |
| 21:32.11 | seele_ | _Sam--, ok no problem |
| 21:32.20 | seele_ | _Sam--, yes |
| 21:32.24 | mogorman | ewwwwwwwwwwww |
| 21:32.24 | mogorman | amp |
| 21:32.35 | zoo | When I get a call on a exten here, I want asterisk to Congestion, ring a local sip-phone and upon answer it shall connect with the caller. is that possible? Any idea, what i should search for? |
| 21:32.35 | _Sam-- | i didnt suggest it...he said he was already using it :) |
| 21:32.38 | ManxPowe | eKo1, Asterisk would be generating the ringing then |
| 21:32.43 | eKo1 | i thought the zaptel driver generates the ringing |
| 21:32.44 | seele_ | _Sam--, and configure mi extensions corectly ... the FXS |
| 21:32.52 | ManxPowe | well, asterisk as indicated to asterisk by the telco at least |
| 21:32.57 | eKo1 | but why the two different ringing patterns? |
| 21:32.59 | _Sam-- | you need to configure your internal extensions correctly |
| 21:33.08 | tzanger | eKo1: you don't have a 'r' in your Dial() options anywhere do you? |
| 21:33.13 | eKo1 | nope |
| 21:33.28 | ManxPowe | eKo1, Are the calls being handled by different parts of the dialplan |
| 21:33.33 | seele_ | _Sam--, my (FXS) internal extension are working corectly |
| 21:33.35 | eKo1 | nope, same part |
| 21:33.46 | _Sam-- | you can call from internal to internal extensions ok? |
| 21:33.47 | seele_ | _Sam--, the problem is the SIP extensions |
| 21:33.59 | _Sam-- | i thought the internal extensions ARE sip |
| 21:34.00 | eKo1 | it's just that some numbers produce different ringing |
| 21:34.25 | ManxPowe | eKo1, maybe the telco is answering some calls then providing a ringback. I helped someone here that had that issue. |
| 21:34.30 | seele_ | _Sam--, from FXS to FXS and from FXS to SIP but no from SIP to any |
| 21:34.40 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=joe@66.11.164.239) |
| 21:34.48 | eKo1 | i talked to the telco and they said they don't provide the ringback |
| 21:34.49 | *** join/#asterisk lorinc (n=ang@caracas-3352.adsl.interware.hu) |
| 21:34.58 | ManxPowe | eKo1, Call those different numbers while watching the CLI. Does the CLI show the call being answered even though you still hear ringing? |
| 21:35.04 | eKo1 | and i've done a debug of what is happening and I don't see the call being answered. |
| 21:35.06 | seele_ | _Sam--, i have both SIP and FXS as internal |
| 21:35.22 | eKo1 | ManxPowe: yes, it shows it as being answered and i still hear ringing |
| 21:35.37 | eKo1 | but that only happens for some calls |
| 21:35.53 | tzanger | eKo1: sounds like you need to whittle it down to a very small test case that you can see |
| 21:35.54 | eKo1 | for the rest, the ringing is different and the call i don't see it answered in the cli |
| 21:36.13 | ManxPowe | eKo1, So either the telco is anwering some calls and sending ringback or the destination number is answering (auto fax/voice switch device) and providing ringback |
| 21:36.33 | ManxPowe | eKo1, and does this happen when you call from a phone NOT on an asterisk system? |
| 21:36.35 | *** join/#asterisk grimse_ (n=grimse@p5481F4DB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:36.36 | _Sam-- | seele_: when you watch the asterisk console and you try to call from SIP what do you see |
| 21:36.52 | eKo1 | no, all the calls are comming from asterisk |
| 21:37.15 | ManxPowe | eKo1, try it from a non-asterisk system |
| 21:37.19 | seele_ | _Sam--, nothing |
| 21:37.27 | *** part/#asterisk zoo (i=nobody@ip-50-16.travedsl.de) |
| 21:37.32 | _Sam-- | what type of SIP phone |
| 21:37.41 | eKo1 | i'll try it from my cellphone |
| 21:38.04 | seele_ | _Sam--, and in the SIP phone sounds a busy tone ... and it says URL call DISABLE |
| 21:38.19 | _Sam-- | you do not have the SIP phone setup right |
| 21:38.28 | ManxPowe | seele_, Polycom Phone? |
| 21:38.42 | *** join/#asterisk |Vulture| (n=V@adsl-070-147-201-170.sip.dab.bellsouth.net) |
| 21:38.52 | linlin | riddlebox |
| 21:38.53 | linlin | This is how I did a reset on my PAP2: |
| 21:38.53 | linlin | I opened the box to find a two pin jumper for three pins available on |
| 21:38.53 | linlin | the board. I kept the device ON, (I used NONSTATIC gloves) pluged off |
| 21:38.53 | linlin | the jumper from the second and the third pins and connected it to the |
| 21:38.53 | linlin | first and second pins. Then I punched in "****" and "FACTRESET" and |
| 21:38.55 | linlin | then "1" on the telephone connected to the PAP2. It announced that it |
| 21:38.57 | seele_ | Yes is a polycom soundpoint IP 501 |
| 21:38.57 | linlin | did RESET successfully. I then switched of the PAP2 and reverted the |
| 21:38.59 | linlin | jumper back to its second and third pin position and closed the box. I |
| 21:39.01 | linlin | had the PAP2 unlocked! |
| 21:39.01 | eKo1 | i hear the same ringing pattern from my cell phone |
| 21:39.12 | linlin | http://www.voipuser.org/forum_topic_1931.html |
| 21:39.13 | seele_ | ManxPowe, yes a 501 |
| 21:39.23 | seele_ | _Sam--, is a polycom 501 |
| 21:39.29 | eKo1 | it has to be Asterisk (viz. zaptel driver) that is giving me these different ringing patterns. |
| 21:39.44 | _Sam-- | did you configure the phone? |
| 21:39.48 | _Sam-- | (sorry to sound stupid) |
| 21:39.52 | ManxPowe | seele_, That message means the phone cannot communicate with the server or the config of the phone is wrong |
| 21:39.57 | seele_ | _Sam--, I think so |
| 21:40.32 | seele_ | _Sam--, why the phone can recieve calls? |
| 21:40.43 | seele_ | _Sam--, but not make them |
| 21:41.04 | seele_ | ManxPowe, do you have a polycom to? |
| 21:41.27 | riddlebox | linlin:I got through to bv and they emailed me my password |
| 21:41.30 | _Sam-- | it sounds like some kind of outgoing proxy is set wrong |
| 21:41.39 | linlin | oh well thats easy |
| 21:41.54 | ManxPowe | seele_, making a call and receiving a call are configured in two different places in the phones |
| 21:41.54 | ManxPowe | seele_, I have 60 polycoms |
| 21:42.01 | _Sam-- | either that or firewall, but you say you dont have a firewall |
| 21:42.05 | seele_ | _Sam--, but they are in the same switch |
| 21:42.23 | seele_ | ManxPowe, oks |
| 21:42.30 | seele_ | ManxPowe, tellme |
| 21:42.32 | _Sam-- | check the phone configuration for your outgoing proxy, and for your registration type settings |
| 21:42.37 | _Sam-- | and then watch your asterisk console |
| 21:43.09 | mogorman | man i had the greatest idea |
| 21:43.17 | mogorman | i need to setup a free phone |
| 21:43.20 | ManxPowe | seele_, I just did |
| 21:43.23 | seele_ | _Sam--, ok the outbound proxy address is the same one of the asterisk server ... is that ok? |
| 21:43.25 | tzanger | werd to the matt |
| 21:43.26 | mogorman | get voip access with broadvoice |
| 21:43.32 | mogorman | and just ask for donations |
| 21:43.40 | mogorman | to keep the payphone repaired |
| 21:43.52 | seele_ | ManxPowe, how to configure my outgoing calls |
| 21:43.55 | mogorman | and just run it off my asterisk box |
| 21:44.08 | mogorman | hmm i just need a post or a few square feet |
| 21:44.23 | _Sam-- | do you have a context for the sip phone in sip.conf? |
| 21:44.25 | seele_ | _Sam--, the port is the 5060? |
| 21:44.26 | ManxPowe | seele_, look at the outbound proxy settings |
| 21:44.44 | seele_ | ManxPowe, ok I am on it |
| 21:44.54 | seele_ | _Sam--, yes |
| 21:44.54 | _Sam-- | i wish i could be more help....i am out of help |
| 21:45.27 | seele_ | _Sam--, ok thanks for everything |
| 21:45.31 | SkramX | Hi all |
| 21:45.36 | _Sam-- | im sorry that i couldnt get it for ya |
| 21:45.57 | seele_ | ManxPowe, my outbound proxy address is the asterisk address |
| 21:45.57 | drumkilla | ManxPowe: you're missing an 'r'! |
| 21:46.11 | _Sam-- | in my opinion, it has to be extensions.conf/sip.conf or the phone configuration. |
| 21:46.44 | seele_ | _Sam--, ok |
| 21:47.24 | loud | satellite cons :( the r didnt make it to the transponder. |
| 21:47.35 | mogorman | any one want to donate to the free phone project? |
| 21:47.42 | _Sam-- | one possibility could be there is no proper context for that phone's outgoing calls in extensions.conf |
| 21:47.53 | seele_ | _Sam--, do you have any example of SIP phone in a sip.conf |
| 21:48.07 | mogorman | i just need to find a place in hsv that will let me set it up |
| 21:48.10 | mogorman | lol |
| 21:48.12 | _Sam-- | just look in the sip.conf that comes with asterisk |
| 21:48.15 | mogorman | i am buying a real payphone |
| 21:48.18 | _Sam-- | there are a bunch of examples |
| 21:48.18 | seele_ | _Sam--, or extensions.conf |
| 21:48.23 | mogorman | only 175 |
| 21:48.27 | smirl | do they make SIP Payphones? |
| 21:48.34 | smirl | lol |
| 21:48.35 | mogorman | i wonder who would let me plug it in |
| 21:48.39 | mogorman | no smirl |
| 21:48.43 | mogorman | but i just need an ata |
| 21:48.56 | smirl | u need an ATA that will do Ground-Start |
| 21:49.07 | mogorman | not all payphones are gs |
| 21:49.12 | mogorman | the ones im looking at are ks |
| 21:49.14 | seele_ | ManxPowe, the polycom can recieve calls but can't make them? |
| 21:49.23 | mogorman | its more of a replica |
| 21:49.24 | smirl | oh, i'm thinking like classic payphones |
| 21:49.25 | mogorman | than a real one |
| 21:49.28 | mogorman | yeah |
| 21:49.33 | mogorman | i dont want it real |
| 21:49.36 | mogorman | as it will be free |
| 21:50.08 | _Sam-- | if you had an SIP payphone, you could also use it as a broadband hotspot |
| 21:50.23 | mogorman | well i dont want to share to much of my bandwith |
| 21:50.28 | _Sam-- | sounds like a moneymaker if you could find some locations |
| 21:50.31 | mogorman | just the 30k |
| 21:50.37 | mogorman | its not about money |
| 21:50.38 | mogorman | lol |
| 21:50.42 | mogorman | its about free phone |
| 21:50.44 | mogorman | ^_^ |
| 21:51.08 | _Sam-- | isnt 19.99 a month for unlimited calls pretty much fre? |
| 21:51.09 | _Sam-- | free |
| 21:51.40 | mogorman | yeah |
| 21:51.45 | mogorman | im willing to take a 20 dollar hit |
| 21:51.45 | tzanger | yeah but it isn't unlimited |
| 21:51.48 | eKo1 | hah, which i had that here |
| 21:51.50 | tzanger | it is typically about 2000 minutes |
| 21:51.52 | seele_ | ManxPowe, please help me |
| 21:51.59 | mogorman | broadvoice i thought was totally unlimited |
| 21:52.19 | |Vulture| | Any 2k3 AD admins around? having issues with a domain controller |
| 21:52.26 | _Sam-- | i think you're right...they didnt mention a softcap on broadvoice (last time i checked at least) |
| 21:53.10 | seele_ | ManxPowe, tell me how do I setup in the sip.conf or extension.conf the outgoing calls for the polycom |
| 21:53.43 | riddlebox | linlin:have you set these up to work with asterisk? |
| 21:53.49 | *** join/#asterisk brockj49464 (n=brockj49@63.87.56.159) |
| 21:54.07 | mogorman | well i could get two or three of em |
| 21:54.58 | linlin | no i havnt yet |
| 21:55.15 | mogorman | i think i would make enough just by people dropping in money out of habit |
| 21:55.19 | linlin | i have one port configured to voipbuster and the other setup on someone elses asterisk |
| 21:55.24 | linlin | smirl's |
| 21:55.26 | mogorman | but once again its just about doing it |
| 21:55.34 | linlin | ask him, he seems helpful |
| 21:55.45 | mogorman | i might set it up by the gas station by my house |
| 21:55.50 | mogorman | i think i can hit it with wifi |
| 21:56.04 | linlin | i want to eventually setup 2 spa2000's and 1 spa3000 |
| 21:56.06 | mogorman | or a really long copper |
| 21:56.07 | eKo1 | hmm...i changed the loadzone in zaptel.conf and i still here the same ringing pattern |
| 21:56.27 | linlin | use my regular phone line and route with asterisk |
| 21:56.30 | eKo1 | i guess the ringing pattern doesn't change? |
| 21:57.01 | mogorman | you can do 4 distinctive rings |
| 21:57.08 | mogorman | and change your cadence |
| 21:57.36 | eKo1 | on a pri? |
| 21:58.00 | mogorman | you dont send ring type over a pri |
| 21:58.18 | mogorman | you only sing ring type in fxo aka to an fxs module |
| 21:58.47 | eKo1 | but then what produces the ringing i hear? the zaptel driver right? |
| 21:59.09 | trixter | hrm my good friends rubert and shirly have a fax on their line now :( was gonna ask em about a big ass dodge pickup cuase I heard those were cool, especially in south texas |
| 21:59.15 | mogorman | ek01 what is the call path |
| 21:59.32 | eKo1 | sip phone -> asterisk -> pri |
| 21:59.32 | SkramX | does one loose functionality of a 7940 when switching it to SIP (from SCCP) |
| 21:59.37 | SkramX | *? |
| 21:59.47 | mogorman | sip phone is probably generating ring |
| 21:59.56 | mogorman | and you can set zone er language |
| 22:00.00 | eKo1 | but they're all the same |
| 22:00.01 | mogorman | in asterisk |
| 22:00.03 | eKo1 | on every phone |
| 22:00.05 | mogorman | but i dont think it matters |
| 22:00.55 | eKo1 | the sip phone can't be the one producing the ring...it has to be asterisk |
| 22:01.09 | mogorman | if you do r its asterisk |
| 22:01.12 | mogorman | otherwise its sip phone |
| 22:01.17 | mogorman | unless im mistake |
| 22:01.17 | mogorman | n |
| 22:01.27 | mogorman | asterisk just sends the progress state to the sip phone |
| 22:01.33 | mogorman | as signalling |
| 22:01.44 | mogorman | it would be dumb to send ringing audiop |
| 22:02.05 | linlin | whats the cheapest possible FXO interface that i could use with asterisk? |
| 22:02.12 | mogorman | x100p clone |
| 22:02.25 | SkramX | is it possible to run a TFTP server ON a Cisco 7940/60? |
| 22:02.26 | eKo1 | but why does the ringing sound the same on all my sip phones, e.g. xtenlite, grandstreams, etc... |
| 22:02.33 | Qwell | SkramX: uhh...no |
| 22:02.39 | SkramX | :( |
| 22:02.42 | Qwell | not unless you made custom firmware for it |
| 22:02.58 | SkramX | okay. |
| 22:02.58 | mogorman | they are all set for us? |
| 22:03.23 | eKo1 | nah |
| 22:03.39 | brockj49464 | What is the cheapest way to get 8 extensions (either VoIP phones or ATA's/card to use with Asterisk? |
| 22:03.39 | |Vulture| | windows databases are complete whores |
| 22:03.49 | smirl | linlin, intel modem, $10 ebay |
| 22:04.01 | mogorman | tdm400p brockj49464 |
| 22:04.50 | Qwell | mogorman: are the 2400s 4x6 or 6x4? |
| 22:05.02 | rob0 | mogorman: really? I think the dual-port Linksys ATA's are only about $50, less than a single FXS module. |
| 22:05.18 | mogorman | okies rob0 |
| 22:05.32 | mogorman | most of it is gifted |
| 22:05.37 | rob0 | :) |
| 22:05.47 | mogorman | i really need a spa 941 |
| 22:05.55 | rob0 | that said, I would prefer the tdm400p |
| 22:06.06 | mogorman | yay! |
| 22:06.07 | trixter | do what I did... I got 5 ATAs 3 sip phones and a tdm410 |
| 22:06.12 | trixter | all free.. |
| 22:06.16 | brockj49464 | what about getting a bunch of SPA-2100's from ZingoTel, can they work or are they locked? |
| 22:06.42 | mogorman | well ebaying it is probably cheapest |
| 22:06.54 | _Sam-- | brockj49464: the cheapest way would be using xlite for free |
| 22:07.04 | mogorman | lol _Sam-- |
| 22:07.10 | rob0 | I keep offering my services as a gigolo in exchange for VoIP hardware ... not having much luck |
| 22:07.11 | mogorman | diax is better.... |
| 22:07.18 | eKo1 | if the sip phone generates the ringing, shouldn't the ringing be the same regardless of what/where you call? |
| 22:07.36 | trixter | rob0: I just asked companies to donate hardware ... and sure enough they did |
| 22:07.37 | brockj49464 | True. Right now I have a KXTD1232 panasonic PBX that I want to replace with VoIP |
| 22:07.38 | *** join/#asterisk amir (n=amir@gentoo/developer/amir) |
| 22:07.50 | mogorman | no ek01 |
| 22:07.54 | mogorman | they are made to mimic |
| 22:08.08 | eKo1 | mimic? |
| 22:08.43 | mogorman | i set my snom to us |
| 22:08.45 | mogorman | so it rings like us |
| 22:09.21 | _Sam-- | brockj49464: i think there are a zillion ways to do what you want...it will be up to you to figure out your budget and features you need |
| 22:09.26 | eKo1 | but the ringing sound is the same, regardless of what you call |
| 22:10.26 | eKo1 | right? |
| 22:10.45 | mogorman | well no |
| 22:10.50 | mogorman | hmm im not sure |
| 22:10.53 | mogorman | id have to check |
| 22:10.57 | eKo1 | hehe, |
| 22:11.29 | mogorman | but i have no equipment here |
| 22:11.32 | mogorman | at parents house |
| 22:11.35 | eKo1 | in my case, i have one ringing pattern when calling office extensions, and two others for calling the pstn |
| 22:11.42 | [av]bani | whats the cheapest external 4port sip fxo? |
| 22:12.09 | eKo1 | so it makes me thing that the sip phone is not generating the ringing sound for the calls, at least the pstn calls |
| 22:12.14 | eKo1 | s/thing/think |
| 22:14.00 | eKo1 | actually, calling office extensions and usa numbers through my provider make the same ringing noise. |
| 22:14.26 | eKo1 | only the pstn calls sound different |
| 22:14.44 | riddlebox | smirl: are you around? |
| 22:15.17 | riddlebox | linlin:was it easy to setup the spa? |
| 22:16.20 | [TK]D-Fender | av : Clipcomm has a 4port SIP FXO for $350 last I checked on special at Voipsupply. |
| 22:16.42 | file[laptop] | [TK]D-Fender: home home? |
| 22:16.43 | _Sam-- | im looking there now...i dont see any 4 port fxo |
| 22:16.53 | [TK]D-Fender | yup... |
| 22:17.05 | file[laptop] | [TK]D-Fender: exxxxcellent |
| 22:17.08 | _Sam-- | there it is |
| 22:17.10 | [TK]D-Fender | _Sam-- : loko harder.. |
| 22:17.12 | _Sam-- | 350 |
| 22:17.29 | _Sam-- | i dont know of too many quad external fxo |
| 22:18.03 | [TK]D-Fender | _Sam-- : Mediatrix, and AudioCodes are well know makers for that density as well |
| 22:18.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Here, have a whole page.... http://www.voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=94_286_120 |
| 22:20.22 | smirl | something funny: we bought webspace from "Integrahost", it was cheap, but there server sucked ass, it only averaged 90% uptime over 2 months. So we switched to someone else, and talking to Integra I asked for a refund, if not, I'm going to use our webspace with them to show people how much their server sucks, with actual uptime statistics |
| 22:22.10 | _Sam-- | [TK]D-Fender: sorry to sound stupid, but how would you use one of those type things with asterisk? |
| 22:22.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Well have you ever used an SPA-3000 before? |
| 22:23.12 | [TK]D-Fender | You just send calls to it pretty much like Dial(SIP/myfxogateway/5551212) and it'll do the rest |
| 22:24.44 | _Sam-- | you 'register' from asterisk to those things via SIP? |
| 22:25.06 | [TK]D-Fender | yup |
| 22:25.12 | mogorman | its just like anyother sip device |
| 22:25.18 | _Sam-- | so its just one more thing to configure |
| 22:25.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Or usually the revers. treat it like an extensions rather |
| 22:25.46 | mogorman | yeah instead of zap sip |
| 22:27.24 | [TK]D-Fender | SOne more thing to configure? Being external has a lot of benifits. it doesn't require you to pick a mb and pray it'll give your TDM400P a proper IRQ of its own and you can place it near your demarc point and a single cat5 to your backbone. Also I'm not sure how portable the TDM400 is to any other solution whereas the others being generic SIP are pretty much assured. |
| 22:27.33 | trixter | just got more free oreilly books, god bless them |
| 22:27.53 | [TK]D-Fender | I ditched my TDM22B for an all-Sipura setup and have no regrets |
| 22:28.47 | *** join/#asterisk linlin2 (i=linlin@71.194.70.5) |
| 22:28.47 | _Sam-- | i dont know why a phone system handling 4 lines would need to be portable? like you are going to pick it up and move regularly? |
| 22:29.02 | mogorman | meh |
| 22:29.11 | mogorman | if i had to pick id rather have a tdm |
| 22:29.16 | mogorman | but whatever works |
| 22:29.30 | mogorman | lol |
| 22:29.36 | _Sam-- | im totally new to it all, just trying to learn |
| 22:29.48 | mogorman | although i do love my wrt54gp2na |
| 22:29.50 | [TK]D-Fender | I meant to another PLATFORM. As much as I love Asterisk NOW, I don't like being "owned" by anybody. |
| 22:30.18 | mogorman | looks like [TK]D-Fender is a witch |
| 22:30.23 | [TK]D-Fender | If I buy hardware I want it to interchangeable every which way possible |
| 22:30.23 | mogorman | burn him for herassy |
| 22:30.25 | tzanger | is he heavier than a duck? |
| 22:30.29 | _Sam-- | i dont follow? i figure my current hardware has a useful life... |
| 22:30.36 | file[laptop] | tzanger: pretty sure |
| 22:30.39 | mogorman | he is made of wood tzanger and he turned me into a newt |
| 22:30.39 | _Sam-- | and as long as i have this hardware, i know it 'll run on asterisk |
| 22:30.45 | [TK]D-Fender | Nah, I'll sink like a rock! |
| 22:30.47 | tzanger | mogorman: damn |
| 22:30.53 | _Sam-- | or at least on my current asterisk |
| 22:30.54 | mogorman | i got better |
| 22:31.02 | file[laptop] | [TK]D-Fender is a giant O.O |
| 22:31.13 | [TK]D-Fender | I prefer the term : vertically Enhanced :D |
| 22:31.13 | mogorman | o.o? |
| 22:31.24 | file[laptop] | [TK]D-Fender: ...or giant |
| 22:31.44 | jake1932 | ascii art pron |
| 22:31.56 | riddlebox | great, now I cannot connect to broadvoice at all lol |
| 22:32.02 | [TK]D-Fender | (o) (o) ? |
| 22:32.14 | mogorman | im confused |
| 22:32.21 | file[laptop] | mogorman: I'm Josh, nice to meet you |
| 22:32.28 | mogorman | hi file |
| 22:32.31 | linlin2 | any specific model of intel modem i should look for? |
| 22:32.31 | mogorman | im mog |
| 22:32.43 | mogorman | it only works with one chipset linlin |
| 22:33.06 | linlin2 | oh so maybe i should just spend a little more money for reliability |
| 22:33.21 | file[laptop] | mogorman: Mattttttttttt |
| 22:33.30 | mogorman | x100p is a great first step for asterisk |
| 22:33.36 | mogorman | but not ness. best real interface |
| 22:33.47 | mogorman | go get a spa or tdm400p for your biz |
| 22:33.57 | trixter | riddlebox: you still havent gotten that working? |
| 22:34.03 | linlin2 | was thinking of a spa3000 |
| 22:34.26 | linlin2 | just cause the othe fxs port would be handy |
| 22:34.40 | _Sam-- | they need to make a tdm400 w/ 2 lines on each port for a tdm800 (8 lines) |
| 22:34.49 | riddlebox | trixter:I was able to make and recieve calls, but now it doesnt even register to broadvoice, I will just wait a little bit and see if it times out or something |
| 22:34.49 | _Sam-- | 4 lines is too small for medium biz |
| 22:34.57 | mogorman | yu can get any combo with tdm400p too linlin but whatever works |
| 22:34.58 | file[laptop] | _Sam--: eh? tdm2400 |
| 22:35.05 | _Sam-- | 2400 is too big |
| 22:35.05 | file[laptop] | that's what you'd have to do |
| 22:35.06 | trixter | did you change anything from when it was working? |
| 22:35.11 | mogorman | whats wrong with 2400 |
| 22:35.14 | mogorman | its just big boned |
| 22:35.19 | tzanger | haha |
| 22:35.22 | jake1932 | or 2 400s |
| 22:35.30 | [TK]D-Fender | SPA-3000 = great choice. $50 / port and can do tons oall by itself even before adding * |
| 22:35.33 | _Sam-- | but they could put 2 lines on each port |
| 22:35.41 | _Sam-- | havent you seen 2 line phones |
| 22:35.42 | _Sam-- | with 1 jack |
| 22:35.45 | linlin2 | vopibuster's resources are always in use :-/ |
| 22:35.51 | mogorman | you can do that with 2400p _Sam-- |
| 22:35.56 | trixter | linlin: I didnt have any problems with them |
| 22:35.57 | mogorman | just build your own punchblock |
| 22:36.15 | mogorman | or buy one from greybar |
| 22:36.17 | linlin2 | buster or the spa3000 ? |
| 22:36.36 | trixter | buster |
| 22:36.55 | linlin2 | oh..any number i dial i get a busy signal |
| 22:36.58 | trixter | although they dont appear to give yoiu the free minute anymore like they used to.. |
| 22:36.59 | linlin2 | even 800 nums |
| 22:37.07 | trixter | enum freenum.org for 800s |
| 22:37.08 | *** part/#asterisk Samoied (n=Samoied@200.245.215.130) |
| 22:37.08 | trixter | :) |
| 22:37.10 | linlin2 | oh they stopped that? |
| 22:37.16 | trixter | the free minute, yeah |
| 22:37.18 | _Sam-- | i see what you mean about the 2400 too...thanks. |
| 22:37.28 | trixter | you have to have credits on file now to get any free time with them, as far as I have seen anyway |
| 22:37.30 | linlin2 | i havbe 800's on smirl's thing, i was looking for the free minute |
| 22:37.36 | _Sam-- | doesnt the 2400 have funky PCI requirements |
| 22:37.46 | trixter | which I still need to update my page-o-free_providers to reflect that |
| 22:37.56 | *** join/#asterisk QbY (n=QbY@adsl-068-209-210-253.sip.cha.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:37.57 | mogorman | no it just needs full length full height physical space |
| 22:38.09 | _Sam-- | 64bit pci? |
| 22:38.13 | mogorman | or 32 |
| 22:38.14 | trixter | they were sending an audio message saying you have to add credit ... |
| 22:38.15 | linlin2 | hah i jsut told my parents what i want to eventually do with this pbx and my mom was like "is that like vonage" and my dad started quizzing me on terms, cause hes a phone guy |
| 22:38.17 | [TK]D-Fender | _Sam-- : All Digium cards ahve funky PCI requirements... |
| 22:38.17 | _Sam-- | i see |
| 22:38.20 | mogorman | its keyed fro 3.3 and 5 |
| 22:38.24 | mogorman | bah tk |
| 22:38.35 | mogorman | but it is heavy on interrupts like all zap hw |
| 22:38.51 | trixter | device polling is so much nicer |
| 22:39.01 | [TK]D-Fender | mogorman : Bah? Far from, I've been jilted a few times now. They are "finnicky" to say the least. |
| 22:39.10 | _Sam-- | its hard for me to see from the picture, but the fxo modules just fit on the card? |
| 22:39.13 | mogorman | yes |
| 22:39.16 | mogorman | duaghter cards |
| 22:39.18 | _Sam-- | and then what do you do with the port on the back? |
| 22:39.18 | trixter | partly because cheap hardware doesnt take the system down (cpu load) and partly becuase it just generally makes a nicer experience |
| 22:39.21 | mogorman | you can upgrade as you go |
| 22:39.29 | mogorman | there is a power adapter for fxs modules |
| 22:40.00 | mogorman | with an amphenol 50 pin connector on the end |
| 22:40.02 | _Sam-- | how do you plug in the fxo lines? or what do they plug into? |
| 22:40.09 | QbY | Can asterisk call an external script? Here's what I'm trying to do: I want to change recordings from the phone.. I want to call in and press a secret extension and password, make a recording and hang up--then that recording will replace another recording that is already on the systemm.. |
| 22:40.14 | trixter | Mmmm amphenol |
| 22:40.22 | trixter | far better than punching all that aire |
| 22:40.24 | mogorman | youhave this 50 pin connector you can plug into a punch down block |
| 22:40.28 | mogorman | or a breakout box |
| 22:40.34 | _Sam-- | i see |
| 22:40.42 | mogorman | or something like you want with 4 wires going to a jack |
| 22:40.45 | _Sam-- | i have one of those blocks with a jack like that |
| 22:40.55 | trixter | there are patch panels that have amphenol as well, but those are typically a noticable amount more |
| 22:41.25 | _Sam-- | so if you "include rj11 panel" that comes with a panel with 24 fxo type ports that plugs into the connector on the card? |
| 22:41.38 | _Sam-- | that is an option with the 2400 card..."include rj11 panel" |
| 22:41.40 | [TK]D-Fender | Amphenol has a feeling of"finality" about it that I really don't like. its too "old-telco" |
| 22:42.00 | mogorman | its only way to have 24 ports in pci form factor tk |
| 22:42.16 | mogorman | they are probably talking about a 25 port breakout box sam |
| 22:42.18 | *** join/#asterisk backblue (n=moo@87-196-14-192.net.novis.pt) |
| 22:42.30 | _Sam-- | well you could probably get some kind of crazy multiport adapter w/ 24 or more ports on a pci |
| 22:42.42 | Qwell | That's what the amphenol is :p |
| 22:42.45 | _Sam-- | i used to run an ISP back in the early early days with like 48 modems on 1 pci |
| 22:42.45 | mogorman | exactly |
| 22:42.51 | mogorman | why go crazy when there is a standard |
| 22:43.02 | Qwell | why 50 port though? |
| 22:43.09 | Qwell | erm, pin |
| 22:43.13 | mogorman | because telcos used to do 25 pins |
| 22:43.17 | mogorman | err 25 port |
| 22:43.19 | Qwell | oh |
| 22:43.27 | mogorman | and the connector never changed |
| 22:43.34 | mogorman | we just ground the other 2 pins i think |
| 22:43.36 | _Sam-- | mogorman: the 2400 comes with the cable you need to connect it to a breakout / panel thing? |
| 22:43.41 | Johnnie | Yeah, they're commonplace and readily available. |
| 22:43.44 | mogorman | depends who you get it from |
| 22:43.53 | mogorman | id make sure you get what you want |
| 22:43.54 | Johnnie | Crimpers are cheap too. |
| 22:44.05 | mogorman | but it is a standard |
| 22:44.05 | mogorman | and you can make it yourself |
| 22:44.11 | _Sam-- | 50pin scsi type? |
| 22:44.23 | trixter | it looks like centronics printer cables |
| 22:44.28 | _Sam-- | i know those kind |
| 22:44.28 | Johnnie | They're Centronics. |
| 22:44.32 | _Sam-- | on both ends? |
| 22:44.34 | mogorman | its not scsi |
| 22:44.37 | mogorman | or that printer |
| 22:44.40 | mogorman | but looks the same |
| 22:44.40 | *** join/#asterisk perlmonkee (i=oginvu@c-24-22-125-15.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 22:44.45 | mogorman | the pin out is different on the cable |
| 22:44.48 | Johnnie | You can get pre-made 66 blocks with Centronics adapters on the side. |
| 22:44.51 | _Sam-- | could you get a centronics and rewire it? |
| 22:44.54 | mogorman | scsi routes some pins to ground |
| 22:44.54 | Johnnie | Or, roll your own if you have the tools. |
| 22:44.58 | mogorman | and it will not work |
| 22:45.07 | mogorman | but you can find this cable and box for less than 60 bucks |
| 22:45.13 | Johnnie | phonegeeks.com has some nice items like that. |
| 22:45.21 | _Sam-- | i see ...thank you all...just trying to learn |
| 22:45.24 | mogorman | greybar sells it too |
| 22:45.29 | Johnnie | _Sam--: No sweat. |
| 22:45.31 | mogorman | but they are kinda annoying |
| 22:45.36 | mogorman | like sams club |
| 22:45.39 | mogorman | you have to be a member |
| 22:45.58 | perlmonkee | I'm an idiot, and I'm looking for a *really* complete guide to setting up Asterisk with an X100P (or other similar supported modem) |
| 22:45.59 | Qwell | They sell amphenol connectors at sams club? |
| 22:46.06 | Qwell | ~wikis |
| 22:46.08 | jbot | hmm... wikis is http://www.voip-info.org |
| 22:46.09 | Qwell | perlmonkee: start there |
| 22:46.11 | seele_ | how can I add a prefix waiting time to the trunk that is behind an analog PBX? |
| 22:46.12 | mogorman | no |
| 22:46.24 | perlmonkee | I've been there. |
| 22:46.32 | mogorman | to get prices from greybar you need to be a member |
| 22:46.34 | mogorman | just like sams |
| 22:46.44 | perlmonkee | And that is a large amorphous answer - it has many guides - many incomplete guides. |
| 22:46.48 | Qwell | at sams, you can go in without being a member |
| 22:46.53 | Qwell | you just have to pay like 10% more or something |
| 22:47.03 | mogorman | not in south |
| 22:47.05 | mogorman | they card |
| 22:47.09 | Qwell | they card here too |
| 22:47.11 | _Sam-- | what do you do if you have a client that has like 10 analog lines coming w/ no amphenol type connector on his block? |
| 22:47.15 | Qwell | but, you tell them you want a guest pass |
| 22:47.17 | mogorman | you cant go in without a member |
| 22:47.20 | mogorman | or check out |
| 22:47.28 | mogorman | get a box |
| 22:47.28 | Qwell | maybe I'm thinking of costco? |
| 22:47.33 | mogorman | and bring it into connector |
| 22:47.38 | Qwell | I'm a sams member for another... |
| 22:47.40 | Qwell | 5 days. :D |
| 22:47.43 | Johnnie | _Sam--: Add a connector or a new block, or patch one block to another. |
| 22:47.48 | mogorman | as they are much better to their people |
| 22:47.48 | _Sam-- | i see |
| 22:47.51 | mogorman | have union |
| 22:47.56 | mogorman | and pay 13 an hour |
| 22:47.59 | _Sam-- | get a new block..patch it to the old block, and hook up amphenol |
| 22:48.01 | mogorman | where as sams is evil like the walmart |
| 22:48.03 | Qwell | isn't costco like...owned by like...somebody? |
| 22:48.05 | mogorman | yes sam |
| 22:48.09 | mogorman | yeah |
| 22:48.19 | mogorman | qwell they are probably evil at some level |
| 22:48.23 | Qwell | some church I think |
| 22:48.24 | mogorman | like we think all companies are |
| 22:48.28 | mogorman | oh really? |
| 22:48.31 | Qwell | umm |
| 22:48.35 | Qwell | That's what I was told |
| 22:48.43 | mogorman | google to rescue |
| 22:48.52 | Johnnie | Probably a Catholic church. |
| 22:48.57 | Qwell | no, not catholic |
| 22:49.03 | mogorman | lol qwell |
| 22:49.03 | Johnnie | Wow, amazing. |
| 22:49.03 | Qwell | I want to say Mormon or something |
| 22:49.05 | mogorman | hating on catholics |
| 22:49.21 | Johnnie | Well, Catholics do want like 20% of your income or some crap. |
| 22:49.22 | *** join/#asterisk linlin (i=linlin@71.194.70.5) |
| 22:49.39 | Corydon-w | All churches want 10% |
| 22:49.45 | Johnnie | You know, so they can pay sodomizing pedophile ministers. |
| 22:49.46 | Corydon-w | aka tithing |
| 22:49.47 | Qwell | Corydon-w: bzzt |
| 22:49.48 | mogorman | we own more land than any organized group Johnnie |
| 22:49.52 | Qwell | not the church of scientology |
| 22:49.54 | Qwell | they want 100 |
| 22:49.57 | Qwell | :P |
| 22:50.03 | mogorman | other than that we dont have any clame to fame in financial world |
| 22:50.05 | Qwell | s/want/will get/ |
| 22:50.15 | mogorman | other than quite a many ceos are catholic |
| 22:50.15 | Qwell | mogorman: we? |
| 22:50.16 | Corydon-w | Qwell: okay, so all churches want at least 10%... |
| 22:50.21 | Qwell | Corydon-w: better, heh |
| 22:50.47 | mogorman | actually catholic church wants 5% and then you are supposed to give 5% to another charity |
| 22:51.04 | Corydon-w | and if the Catholic Church doesn't watch it, they're going to have to give up a lot of their land to pay off lawsuits |
| 22:51.41 | mogorman | yeah american catholic church is neer bancrupcy in several areas |
| 22:51.49 | mogorman | in particularly new england |
| 22:51.55 | trixter | well near bankrupt on paper |
| 22:51.58 | trixter | they hide assets |
| 22:52.12 | mogorman | well its tricky because we are dumb |
| 22:52.16 | mogorman | and dont tax churches |
| 22:52.37 | trixter | take in santa monica (part of the san bernadino diocies - which was sued) they have land that if they got appraised it would have more than the 1938 or whatever year they bought it value.. they claim its worth $400 or so but its really worth millions |
| 22:52.39 | mogorman | i dont think costco is owned by a church |
| 22:52.59 | Corydon-w | mogorman: nah, chruches shouldn't be taxed... but churches shouldn't own property, either |
| 22:53.06 | mogorman | well its complicated |
| 22:53.11 | trixter | they do weddings on that land for $35,000 ... which gives you some relative value of the land |
| 22:53.12 | mogorman | like what a bought a church school |
| 22:53.17 | mogorman | or church hospital |
| 22:53.43 | mogorman | i just think its dumb to make exceptions |
| 22:53.47 | Corydon-w | Actually, it'd be considerably simpler if only people could own land, not corporations or other non-human entities |
| 22:53.51 | mogorman | esp with whole seperationf of church in state |
| 22:54.05 | mogorman | that is messy too Corydon |
| 22:54.07 | Qwell | mogorman: yeah, I'm not finding anything either |
| 22:54.27 | mogorman | like if sam walton died and everything had to change hands and be taxed everytime it had to be handed down to an heir |
| 22:54.28 | trixter | its harder since the 70s to form your own church, but its possible ... first you have to form a legal entity (normally a corporation) and get 501c3 status. Then to get the land qualified you have to have at least 3 people in the congregation and 2 of the members cant be related, and they have to meet regularly for worship. |
| 22:54.30 | mogorman | too messy |
| 22:54.44 | trixter | in the 70s it was a big hing to get your garage or whatever your 'temple' and not pay tax on that |
| 22:54.45 | Corydon-w | mogorman: Okay, we have a messy situation created by lawyers, or a messy situation created by lawyers. Take your pick. |
| 22:54.51 | ManxPowe | DirecPC has the worst proxy I have ever seen. Far worse than I ever imagined. |
| 22:55.01 | trixter | and priests can opt into the church retirement and not pay FICA ... that is a savings of nearly 15% on income |
| 22:55.32 | trixter | half of your fica is paid by the employeer and people normally dont see it, but its still paid |
| 22:55.48 | perlmonkee | To re-state, since it's been a while: I'm an idiot, and I'm looking for a *really* complete guide to setting up Asterisk with an X100P (or other similar supported modem) |
| 22:56.07 | Corydon-w | X100P isn't supported anymore |
| 22:56.12 | mogorman | lol yes it is |
| 22:56.20 | mogorman | but voip-info will get you started perlmonkee |
| 22:56.26 | mogorman | then come back with questions |
| 22:56.30 | Corydon-w | mogorman: it's been EOLed by Digium |
| 22:56.34 | perlmonkee | mogorman: I've gone through there a *lot* |
| 22:56.36 | mogorman | yes |
| 22:56.40 | perlmonkee | and I've found several incomlete guides |
| 22:56.40 | mogorman | but we still support it |
| 22:56.40 | trixter | the better alternative in california for example is to get a non profit corp and buy properties - ie residential housing, then get paid by the state to house drunks and drug addicts (at $500-1000/mo per person - bunk beds in a room count as 2 people ...) |
| 22:56.53 | perlmonkee | that get me halfway down one way of doing it - and then have shit like [More to come] |
| 22:56.53 | mogorman | well then you should have better questions ^_^ |
| 22:57.05 | mogorman | not just i have questions about asterisk with x100p |
| 22:57.08 | ManxPowe | perlmonkee, there isn't really such a document. The problem is that Asterisk is so flexable. |
| 22:57.08 | trixter | part of the rehab program they have, and if they act up call their probation officer (to qualify its a judicial diversion program) and get em removed, no eviction required |
| 22:57.09 | perlmonkee | I just don't think I know enough about it yet to ask questions and not look like an idiot. |
| 22:57.24 | mogorman | you already do so first part is out of way |
| 22:57.26 | mogorman | now for the learning |
| 22:57.28 | mogorman | ^_^ |
| 22:57.29 | perlmonkee | hurray! |
| 22:57.40 | seele_ | PLease i need help with this particular matter: My Polycom, matched with and Asterisk in a SIP extension is not recieving calls |
| 22:57.43 | ManxPowe | You can look at the the oriely link in this macro |
| 22:57.43 | ManxPowe | ~docs |
| 22:57.44 | jbot | docs is, like, probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 22:57.44 | linlin | yay i got another garbage picked sipura box to boot |
| 22:57.52 | perlmonkee | fine then, question 1: What kernel modules do I need to load? I have read conflicting information on that. |
| 22:58.00 | Qwell | perlmonkee: wcfxo |
| 22:58.02 | seele_ | Sorry its no making them, |
| 22:58.10 | seele_ | but it recieves them |
| 22:58.10 | mogorman | and zaptel |
| 22:58.11 | perlmonkee | Qwell: do I need zaptel.o ? |
| 22:58.13 | perlmonkee | okay. |
| 22:58.17 | Qwell | it'll load that on its own |
| 22:58.18 | mogorman | you get it from the zaptel source |
| 22:58.24 | ManxPowe | perlmonkee, the kernel module/card list is in the README in the Zaptel directory. FYI: wcfxo |
| 22:58.35 | perlmonkee | so the *only* modems that work are ones supported by the wcfxo module? |
| 22:58.37 | *** join/#asterisk techie (n=gus@antibala.com) |
| 22:58.42 | Qwell | perlmonkee: one |
| 22:58.48 | ManxPowe | perlmonkee, modprobe wcfxo will automagically load zaptel for you |
| 22:58.48 | mogorman | only one chipset |
| 22:58.55 | perlmonkee | I know its only one chipset |
| 22:58.58 | trixter | I read there are 3 chips that work |
| 22:59.00 | mogorman | isnt there a wcfxo2 |
| 22:59.02 | perlmonkee | but there are many physical re-branded modems with that chipset. |
| 22:59.08 | Qwell | mogorman: proprietary |
| 22:59.08 | mogorman | that the verion guy wrote? |
| 22:59.09 | trixter | however most of them arent made anymore |
| 22:59.18 | mogorman | wtf howd that happen qwell? |
| 22:59.23 | Qwell | fucked if I know |
| 22:59.28 | mogorman | i must have been asleep |
| 22:59.30 | Qwell | somebody came in here earlier, saying he bought a card on ebay |
| 22:59.30 | ManxPowe | mogorman, Now THAT'S something Digium should sue over |
| 22:59.33 | mogorman | ill bug marko |
| 22:59.35 | *** join/#asterisk roulduke_ (i=qz1ufxxd@p508D3CD5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:59.41 | Qwell | then, he said they use a driver... |
| 22:59.47 | Qwell | one of the files are binary only |
| 22:59.51 | trixter | ManxPowe: only if it has stolen code because stealing code is bad |
| 23:00.00 | Qwell | trixter: Don't even start |
| 23:00.07 | trixter | I was agreeing with manxpower |
| 23:00.10 | trixter | dont YOU start |
| 23:00.11 | ManxPower | mogorman, I don't think it's digitnetworks |
| 23:00.18 | perlmonkee | stop =( This happened last time I tried to ask a question. |
| 23:00.29 | trixter | yeah qwell does that to this channel |
| 23:00.32 | perlmonkee | (trixter vs. Maxpowe) |
| 23:00.44 | trixter | vs? |
| 23:00.52 | trixter | if we agree on something hos it is vs? |
| 23:00.53 | file[laptop] | Qwell Qwell Qwell |
| 23:00.57 | mogorman | my money is on qwell |
| 23:00.58 | ManxPower | perlmonkee, I have trixter on /ignore. |
| 23:01.08 | Qwell | mogorman: http://x100p.pbxhardware.com/wcfxo2a.tgz That was the link the guy said he was given |
| 23:01.21 | Qwell | http://x100p.pbxhardware.com/READMEa.txt |
| 23:01.22 | Qwell | and that |
| 23:01.41 | trix | manx: I agreed with you, it was a random thing to think that was 'vs' |
| 23:02.02 | trix | your comment about digium should sue, my reply was only if there is stolen code cause stealing code is bad |
| 23:02.10 | mogorman | coudnt a customer of his legally request said source |
| 23:02.23 | trixter | not if its not an open license |
| 23:02.25 | Qwell | well, it comes with two c files, and one o |
| 23:02.33 | trixter | you would have to get the binary and compare it to see if there is any infringing code |
| 23:03.14 | Qwell | though...they are trying to link it to a closed source app...so...it's hairy |
| 23:03.15 | perlmonkee | so... are there any other really inexpensive devices I can use to bridge asterisk with my POTS line? |
| 23:03.19 | Qwell | erm, open source app, heh |
| 23:03.26 | Qwell | asterisk is open source now, isn't it? :P |
| 23:03.41 | trixter | libisup is not open |
| 23:03.48 | file[laptop] | there's actually two chips you can use with the wcfxo driver... |
| 23:03.50 | trixter | yet no one is complaining about SS7 support in asterisk |
| 23:03.53 | file[laptop] | one is a Motorola, other is Intel |
| 23:03.57 | ManxPower | mogorman, I assume wcfxo2a is based on wcfxo, yet it is not GPLd and I assume he has not gotten an exception from Digium. |
| 23:03.59 | linlin | http://cgi.ebay.com/Digium-Wildcard-X100P-OEM-FXO-PCI-Card-for-Asterisk-PBX_W0QQitemZ5845233527QQcategoryZ61839QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting |
| 23:04.02 | linlin | good buy? |
| 23:04.08 | trixter | opensource SS7 has a low likelyhood of being accepted anyway |
| 23:04.22 | perlmonkee | I ordered an IA92 modem, and instead recieved some shitty NetoDragon chipset board. |
| 23:04.22 | Qwell | linlin: get one from nkans |
| 23:04.23 | trixter | ManxPower: to assume based on name only is um yeah |
| 23:04.24 | ManxPower | perlmonkee, "X100P" clones seem to work more or less pretty well. |
| 23:04.25 | Qwell | or whatever his name is |
| 23:04.31 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : depends on your idea of inexpensive. You can get an X100 compatible cards for around 15$ or the next best thing would be a Sipura SPA-3000 which would give you you incoming line interface plus 1 FXS for $100 |
| 23:04.34 | linlin | can they beat 25$ ? |
| 23:04.39 | Qwell | linlin: yeah |
| 23:04.46 | perlmonkee | The card has support as a "voice modem" under linux. |
| 23:04.46 | linlin | ooooo |
| 23:04.52 | perlmonkee | but I don't assume it will work with asterisk. |
| 23:05.06 | Qwell | mogorman: how are people on ebay allowed to use the Digium mark? |
| 23:05.07 | perlmonkee | It would seem asterisk will only work with its own special kernel modules - is this correct? |
| 23:05.12 | Qwell | (no pun intended) |
| 23:05.14 | ManxPower | Um, IA92 modems (I own a few) are $9 + shipping from NewEgg |
| 23:05.30 | file[laptop] | Qwell: you're silly |
| 23:05.31 | perlmonkee | ManxPower: I would love it if they *had* any - but they don't. |
| 23:05.32 | trixter | how about this, someone show me where to get wcfxo2.o and I will look at the binary and see if I can do anything.. although zaptel is lgpl not even full gpl (read the comments) so ... but the lgpl parts would still have to remain oipen |
| 23:05.44 | Qwell | file[laptop]: you jealous you didn't come up with it? :p |
| 23:05.44 | ManxPower | perlmonkee, no. Sangoma has written compatable drivers for Asterisk |
| 23:05.49 | file[laptop] | Qwell: nah |
| 23:05.54 | Qwell | fine |
| 23:05.59 | ManxPower | perlmonkee, I believe Intel discontinued the chip. |
| 23:06.00 | perlmonkee | ManxPower: sangoma? |
| 23:06.06 | mogorman | they arent usually qwell |
| 23:06.07 | trixter | a competitor to digium |
| 23:06.11 | perlmonkee | ah ha |
| 23:06.14 | trixter | they support openpbx as does odin and a few other companies |
| 23:06.15 | mogorman | we forward em to our page on support |
| 23:06.30 | ManxPower | perlmonkee, They compete with Digium. Almost nobody here will help you if you have one of their cards and need help. |
| 23:06.30 | mogorman | zaptel is gpl trixter |
| 23:06.35 | trixter | odin has the dual T1 that works with my ipaq ... now that is sweet |
| 23:06.53 | trixter | mogorman: let me get the copyright notices for you since lgpl is what is included there |
| 23:07.02 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : Excepts those of us who love them. |
| 23:07.05 | tzanger | ManxPower: hahaha |
| 23:07.15 | tzanger | nonsense, I have an A102u and have no troubles |
| 23:07.20 | mogorman | its gpl trixter |
| 23:07.28 | [TK]D-Fender | <- A104d + S518 |
| 23:07.28 | trixter | tonezone.c: * it under thet erms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as published by |
| 23:07.30 | tzanger | I also have a pair of TE405s and a TE406 and a half dozen TDM400s |
| 23:07.36 | mogorman | tonezone is |
| 23:07.36 | tzanger | yep S518 rocks |
| 23:07.36 | file[laptop] | that's tonezone |
| 23:07.38 | trixter | typo is in the c file |
| 23:07.44 | mogorman | but thats just a lib |
| 23:07.52 | mogorman | zaptel is gpl |
| 23:08.05 | mogorman | libs are ment to be lgpl |
| 23:08.17 | [TK]D-Fender | I *HAD* 2 TE405P's... which led me to my A104d. (with a little advice from someone "in the know") |
| 23:08.27 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: ? |
| 23:08.37 | tzanger | I have had no troubles with any Digium T1 card, ever |
| 23:08.38 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger : I'm still waiting to sell off my ADSL modem since I got my S518. |
| 23:08.55 | tzanger | you can get the cheaper Gnet PCI ADSL modem and with a little PCI ID magic the sangoma drivers work great with it |
| 23:09.10 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger : I had chronic frame slips, unable to sync with telco clock and horrific echo. |
| 23:09.15 | mogorman | heh tzanger |
| 23:09.18 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: interesting |
| 23:09.22 | mogorman | fender why didnt you call me |
| 23:09.24 | tzanger | and the A104 fixed that?? |
| 23:09.39 | mogorman | im like the wolf in pulp fiction |
| 23:09.42 | ManxPower | The Sangoma stuff DOES have a good reputation. |
| 23:09.46 | tzanger | generally speaking I have hideous issues with S518+A101 |
| 23:09.56 | [TK]D-Fender | mogorman : I spent HOURS on Digium support calls. Don't think I made the change I did without a fight. I treied everything and then moved on. |
| 23:09.57 | perlmonkee | Can anyone recommend to me a single port card that I can connect to my POTS line (I always get FXO/FXS confused) that is still commercially available and that will work with Asterisk? |
| 23:09.58 | tzanger | chirps and other nasties...S518+T100P = no issues |
| 23:10.07 | mogorman | but no one talked to me |
| 23:10.17 | mogorman | oh speaking of i only have 5 days left in support ^_^ |
| 23:10.25 | tzanger | mogorman: where are you going to then? |
| 23:10.27 | file[laptop] | mogorman: awwww |
| 23:10.33 | jake1932 | say it isn't so! |
| 23:10.39 | file[laptop] | jake1932: he will not go! |
| 23:10.41 | mogorman | im gonna do more stuff for mark kevin matt and fun people |
| 23:10.45 | tzanger | oh nice |
| 23:10.54 | tzanger | congrats on the promotion! |
| 23:10.59 | mogorman | thank ye |
| 23:11.03 | jake1932 | yes congrats |
| 23:11.17 | tzanger | now you're gonna get surly like kpfleming did when he started doing this fulltime :-) |
| 23:11.23 | Qwell | promotion? :D |
| 23:11.26 | mogorman | lol |
| 23:11.30 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger : With the install of my A104d I have *0* echo period. Anywhere. And everything synchs very nicely. |
| 23:11.38 | mogorman | as that means you are serious |
| 23:11.42 | Qwell | mogorman: you gonna be doing coding full time? |
| 23:11.43 | mogorman | something i am not capable of |
| 23:11.51 | mogorman | yeah and other stuff |
| 23:11.58 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: interesting. it would have been nice ot do some other debugging in that system |
| 23:11.59 | mogorman | like labbing up bugs |
| 23:12.02 | Qwell | ooo |
| 23:12.07 | mogorman | bug tracker work |
| 23:12.20 | mogorman | etc |
| 23:12.22 | perlmonkee | Can anyone recommend to me a single port card that I can connect to my POTS line (I always get FXO/FXS confused) that is still commercially available and that will work with Asterisk? - I just want to use this at home, and have no use for T1 cards and the like. |
| 23:12.35 | *** join/#asterisk loick (n=loick@APuteaux-151-1-14-76.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 23:12.38 | mogorman | x100p perlmonkee |
| 23:12.39 | tzanger | perlmonkee: that's an FXO card and a cheapass X100P clone will do it |
| 23:12.40 | mogorman | ebay it |
| 23:12.45 | mogorman | or get a tdm400p |
| 23:12.51 | [av]bani | whats the cheapest external 4port sip fxo? |
| 23:12.52 | mogorman | or tdm2400p!!!! |
| 23:12.55 | mogorman | room to grow |
| 23:12.56 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger : I spent hourse on join support calls with Digium & Williams Comm, multiple cards, swapping NIC, changing kernel modules around. I lost plenty of hair trying for days on it. |
| 23:13.03 | perlmonkee | tzanger: can you recommend any existing X100P card specificly? |
| 23:13.06 | ManxPower | perlmonkee, X100P clone or a TDM400P w/1xFXO module |
| 23:13.06 | jake1932 | or channel bank with T100P |
| 23:13.07 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: no I meant *me* :-) |
| 23:13.11 | mogorman | go to ebay perlmonkee |
| 23:13.16 | perlmonkee | I am having a lot of difficulty finding one - when I finally did, the company sent me something entierly different. |
| 23:13.16 | tzanger | perlmonkee: yes, it's called the X100P, specifically. |
| 23:13.16 | mogorman | search x100p |
| 23:13.23 | [TK]D-Fender | And thats before "go live" after which I had dropped calls, and echo complaints daily. |
| 23:13.28 | mogorman | or digium oem |
| 23:13.35 | [av]bani | perl, i'd recommend a spa-3000 instead of x100p |
| 23:13.36 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: no I understand completely |
| 23:13.39 | [av]bani | much more flexible |
| 23:13.39 | mogorman | i feel your pain tk |
| 23:13.40 | [TK]D-Fender | heh |
| 23:13.42 | [TK]D-Fender | k |
| 23:13.42 | tzanger | mogorman: I wasn't aware that digium was still selling the x100p |
| 23:13.51 | mogorman | we arent tzanger |
| 23:13.57 | mogorman | but people claim they are oem |
| 23:14.13 | tzanger | mogorman: well to be totally honest Digium was doing exactly that. :-) |
| 23:14.14 | mogorman | but ebay doesnt really care.... |
| 23:14.19 | mogorman | yeah |
| 23:14.21 | tzanger | digium wasn't manufacturing the x100p at all :-) |
| 23:14.30 | mogorman | we did some stuff to it |
| 23:14.39 | tzanger | they were gluing heatsinks to it and sticking a digium serial # on it |
| 23:14.40 | mogorman | but it was not the bulk of it |
| 23:14.40 | [TK]D-Fender | mogorman : Well at home I left the realm of PCI altogether (except for my S518 ADSL card) and went all-Sipura. I feel rather "free" right now and don't regret where I am (yet) |
| 23:14.41 | [av]bani | its a cheap software modem abused in * as an fxo :) |
| 23:14.50 | mogorman | the real bulk was writing wcfxo.c |
| 23:14.57 | tzanger | mogorman: totally |
| 23:15.14 | file[laptop] | new Doctor Who in T-Minus 45 Minutes |
| 23:15.26 | ManxPower | Dr. who? |
| 23:15.27 | [av]bani | fender, agreed. sipura are much nicer than worrying about pci drivers and all that. |
| 23:15.28 | mogorman | tk to me, i love digium, as they pay the bills, and think our cards are really spiffy. but in the end its all about asterisk |
| 23:15.32 | mogorman | woot file |
| 23:15.44 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : I second the suggetion to go with the SPA-3000. Proud owner of one myself. |
| 23:15.51 | tzanger | meh I prefer the TDM400 to any outboard shit... too much wiring and wall warts and mess |
| 23:15.53 | file[laptop] | I like the people at Digium, and I like the people at Sangoma |
| 23:15.57 | [av]bani | spa-3000 are really cool :) |
| 23:16.00 | mogorman | but /me does want a tdm2400p to plug up 24 phones |
| 23:16.05 | file[laptop] | and it's allllll good |
| 23:16.05 | mogorman | in my little appartment |
| 23:16.07 | [av]bani | amazing what you get in that little box |
| 23:16.10 | mogorman | and ring them in tandem |
| 23:16.13 | Qwell | mogorman: phone on every wall? |
| 23:16.15 | mogorman | whenever i get a call |
| 23:16.16 | mogorman | no |
| 23:16.18 | mogorman | i want a table |
| 23:16.19 | Qwell | surround sound ringing |
| 23:16.19 | jake1932 | mogorman: does the 2400 do call progress detection? |
| 23:16.21 | tzanger | mogorman: you just want to see your power supply die |
| 23:16.24 | mogorman | of every kind of phone imaginable |
| 23:16.29 | mogorman | ls and ks |
| 23:16.30 | ManxPower | I've had way too much trouble to put a new TDM400P into production ever again. |
| 23:16.32 | Qwell | neat |
| 23:16.41 | mogorman | heh tzanger |
| 23:16.55 | mogorman | i think my 5 w can handle it |
| 23:17.01 | tzanger | mogorman: you'll be able to put the Phone Of Doom in a TDM400 FXS and finally fix that weirdass problem |
| 23:17.08 | perlmonkee | Thanks for the suggestion, but the SPA-3k is out of my price range. |
| 23:17.15 | mogorman | phone of doom? |
| 23:17.16 | perlmonkee | and I would prefer an internal device. |
| 23:17.20 | [TK]D-Fender | mogorman : Actually for me its all about commodity telecom. Asterisk is just the flavour of the moment for me. If something came around that offered me a higher level of quality / flexibility I'd be using that instead. Its about "freedom". |
| 23:17.34 | tzanger | mogorman: ask kram for it. It's a black panasonic digital cordless I gave him last summer |
| 23:17.37 | mogorman | well to me that is what asteirsk is |
| 23:17.39 | mogorman | oohhh |
| 23:17.45 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : then your only other choice is an X100 style card. |
| 23:17.48 | mogorman | ill see if i can get that hooked up for you tzanger |
| 23:17.49 | tzanger | it causes extreme crackle and sputter on TDM400 FXS ports about 60% of the time |
| 23:17.54 | ManxPower | mogorman, And you can convert Digium to using TDM400Ps in PRODUCTION and finally see the sorts of stuff we are complaining about. |
| 23:18.08 | mogorman | lol manx |
| 23:18.12 | file[laptop] | I know better then to use TDM400s... |
| 23:18.15 | tzanger | since it's a cordless phone it has a wall wart and pulls practically no power from the card, but there is *something* about its interface that just drives the card nuts |
| 23:18.15 | mogorman | on the inside |
| 23:18.32 | file[laptop] | SIP it to me. |
| 23:18.35 | tzanger | ManxPower: I generally don't have trouble with TDM400s these days. |
| 23:18.35 | mogorman | ah tzanger |
| 23:18.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Are the TDM400's still horrid? |
| 23:18.48 | [TK]D-Fender | Mine was flakey as all get out.. |
| 23:18.51 | ManxPower | tzanger, how often do you restart Asterisk? |
| 23:18.55 | perlmonkee | Jesus FUCK! The TDM01B is ABSURDLY expensive! |
| 23:18.55 | tzanger | ManxPower: I do not |
| 23:18.57 | mogorman | they have worked much better sense the superfxo |
| 23:18.57 | *** join/#asterisk irieKEN (n=n@ip68-7-100-46.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 23:18.57 | tzanger | EVER |
| 23:18.58 | Qwell | mogorman: Whatever happened to that ds3 card? |
| 23:19.04 | Qwell | perlmonkee: no, that's cheap, considering |
| 23:19.19 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : Not absurd. what do you have to compare it to? |
| 23:19.24 | Qwell | mogorman: Which date is circled? :P |
| 23:19.25 | ManxPower | perlmonkee, a similar card for a commercial PBX is prolly 3x as expensive at least |
| 23:19.25 | file[laptop] | the DS3 card never existed |
| 23:19.28 | file[laptop] | don't ask |
| 23:19.30 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 23:19.40 | tzanger | honestly I think digium realized the actual desire for that card was almost zero |
| 23:19.47 | ManxPower | file, Kind of like the USB FXS device? |
| 23:19.52 | tzanger | honestly who puts a DS3 in a PCI slot with no failover or DSP? |
| 23:20.02 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : What you need to keep in mind is the total cost/port on a curve VS what else is out there. |
| 23:20.02 | file[laptop] | ManxPower: exactly |
| 23:20.24 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger : Just wait for a Sangoma to Channelize theirs :D |
| 23:20.28 | ManxPower | Isn't Sangoma supposed to come out with a DS3 card? |
| 23:20.29 | mogorman | oh noes time for me to go |
| 23:20.31 | mogorman | dnannanana |
| 23:20.32 | perlmonkee | Please at least tell me these things have onboard DSP |
| 23:20.33 | mogorman | sorry |
| 23:20.40 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: yeah, yeah |
| 23:20.40 | file[laptop] | break out the DS3 into PRIs to multiple boxes, perfect failover |
| 23:20.41 | ManxPower | perlmonkee, nope |
| 23:20.44 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : All Sangoma's do. |
| 23:20.51 | mogorman | fight the sangoma fight next time |
| 23:20.53 | tzanger | file[laptop]: that kind of defeats the purpose of a ds3 card then, doesn' tit? |
| 23:20.56 | mogorman | till next time |
| 23:20.58 | trixter | file[laptop]: what happens in the ds3 goes down? |
| 23:20.58 | mogorman | same bat time |
| 23:21.01 | mogorman | same bat channel |
| 23:21.09 | file[laptop] | tzanger: exactly |
| 23:21.09 | *** part/#asterisk mogorman (n=Susie@adsl-220-184-127.mob.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:21.09 | [TK]D-Fender | HDLC in hardware and simply "deposit" frames direct into Zaptel. |
| 23:21.11 | ManxPower | Um. I don't believe the Sangomas have onboard DSP. |
| 23:21.15 | file[laptop] | trixter: then do failover higher up, the card doesn't solve that problem either |
| 23:21.19 | tzanger | the rev2 TE20x/40x cards do hardware hdlc |
| 23:21.26 | fugitivo | i'll split my 1mb bandwith into multiple routers |
| 23:21.27 | perlmonkee | Can someone tell me then why I would want to use a TDM01B instead of an X100P ? |
| 23:21.27 | ManxPower | HDLC in hardware, etc |
| 23:21.28 | tzanger | or at least have the capability, there's a patch in the bugtracker for it |
| 23:21.30 | trixter | well you said perfect failover so I wanted to know how perfect it was |
| 23:21.41 | tzanger | perlmonkee: expansion mostly |
| 23:21.43 | [av]bani | hdlc isnt exactly cpu intensive... |
| 23:21.43 | file[laptop] | perfect failover in comparison to a single DS3 card |
| 23:21.45 | file[laptop] | god you're picky :P |
| 23:21.51 | tzanger | they're practically identical in every other aspect |
| 23:21.54 | ManxPower | tzanger, Do you think that will solve many problems? |
| 23:21.58 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : you'd pick a TDM400P car if you intend on adding more ports as the cost ratio gets better and don't need to add more cards. |
| 23:22.05 | tzanger | ManxPower: what will? |
| 23:22.06 | perlmonkee | tzanger: but I only want one port - hence buying the card with only one port. |
| 23:22.15 | tzanger | perlmonkee: yes |
| 23:22.17 | ManxPower | tzanger, HDLC in hardware |
| 23:22.19 | tzanger | perlmonkee: that means you can add three others |
| 23:22.29 | perlmonkee | tzanger: so the choice is $10 vs ~$150 |
| 23:22.31 | tzanger | ManxPower: no I don't think it will solve much unless the HDLC framer in software's hosed. |
| 23:22.33 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : So just get either an X100 somewhere or an SPA-3000 and be done with it. |
| 23:22.53 | [av]bani | spa-3000 > x100 |
| 23:22.57 | perlmonkee | can anyone tell me a *reliable* place to get an X100 from? |
| 23:23.03 | tzanger | perlmonkee: for the last time, ebay |
| 23:23.07 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : Or $100 and get 1 FXS & 1 FXO |
| 23:23.08 | trixter | file[laptop]: well considering the vast majority of asterisk installs are for home voip answering machines its far more perfect than what most people use it for.. Yes there are businesses that do asterisk but lets count raw numbers here |
| 23:23.21 | linlin | ok i just bought the x100p |
| 23:23.28 | trixter | hell one of the hardest things I have encountered teaching asterisk to people is to get them to stop thinking that is *all* asterisk is |
| 23:23.34 | linlin | once thats here ill have all the hardware to do what i want |
| 23:23.51 | ManxPower | linlin, where did you get it from |
| 23:23.56 | [TK]D-Fender | trixter : Been there... |
| 23:24.01 | perlmonkee | (Like I said, the last place I ordered one from sent me something with a different Linux supported chipset, but not asterisk supported apparently) |
| 23:24.10 | trixter | at least I wont have to do that when I speak at etel |
| 23:24.12 | perlmonkee | Linlin: yes, please, where did you get it from? |
| 23:24.15 | *** join/#asterisk pigpen (n=mark@fw.seamans.cc) |
| 23:24.20 | linlin | ebay |
| 23:24.23 | perlmonkee | =( |
| 23:24.25 | [av]bani | perlmonkee, there's never any quesiton that an spa-3000 will support * or linux. |
| 23:24.26 | trixter | because 1. I am not being asterisk-centric there, and 2. there are enough others that should take care of that for me |
| 23:24.31 | [av]bani | no guessing |
| 23:24.50 | trixter | I think I got most people at the AUG straightened out though |
| 23:24.59 | linlin | http://cgi.ebay.com/Digium-Wildcard-X100P-OEM-FXO-PCI-Card-for-Asterisk-PBX_W0QQitemZ5845233527QQcategoryZ61839QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting |
| 23:25.08 | perlmonkee | [av]bani: uhm... thank you... I really do appreciate anyone and everyone's help. As I've said though, the spa-3k is out of my price range and not something I would want to consider. Thanks again though. |
| 23:25.11 | trixter | nkaans? |
| 23:25.13 | trixter | the seller |
| 23:25.48 | tzanger | yeah people who are using * as an answering machine are really missing the point |
| 23:26.11 | ManxPower | Mozilla just popped up it's new message notify window, chimed, and proudly told me I had 0 new messages. |
| 23:26.28 | trixter | well I am also giving out VoIP hardware thanks to thevoipconnection.com so people will listen to me at least to get that :) |
| 23:26.28 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : We've just come to realize that its a great value ($50 / port) and will still be useful long after we've changed out minds about * :) |
| 23:26.35 | linlin | nkans doesnt have any items for sale |
| 23:26.37 | trixter | and the $9000 in free etel passes I got didnt hurt either |
| 23:26.43 | perlmonkee | is [av]bani a bot? |
| 23:26.47 | [TK]D-Fender | perlmonkee : Card to tell us what you think a PBX in a box is worth? |
| 23:26.53 | trixter | linlin: is it nkaans? thought there were 2 a's |
| 23:27.02 | [av]bani | no |
| 23:27.05 | Qwell | yeah, might be two a's |
| 23:27.07 | trixter | he is in walnut creek and sells x100p clones for $7 or so |
| 23:27.09 | linlin | nkans ( 4587) |
| 23:27.09 | linlin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.09 | linlin | Positive Feedback: 98.4% |
| 23:27.09 | linlin | Member since Nov-12-01 in United Kingdom |
| 23:27.09 | linlin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.12 | ManxPower | Perhaps the existing stock of those cards has finally REALLY run out. |
| 23:27.17 | Qwell | that's the guy |
| 23:27.21 | linlin | nothing for sale |
| 23:27.23 | ManxPower | We all knew it was going to happen |
| 23:27.34 | trixter | hrm ... UK ... wonder if that is accurate, the device location (and indeed mailing labels) indicate walnut creek california |
| 23:27.37 | linlin | wow he dells the cards for 17$ total |
| 23:27.40 | linlin | sells* |
| 23:27.41 | [av]bani | you can ignore the recommendation if you like |
| 23:27.56 | Qwell | linlin: the prices varied with him, actually |
| 23:27.57 | trixter | manxpower: yeah but you can get em made in china fairly cheap so long as you can get the components |
| 23:28.08 | Qwell | sometimes it was $20 with free shipping, others $8 with $5 shipping |
| 23:28.09 | [av]bani | i tried the x100 and the spa-3000 was just soooo much nicer. i also tried a tdm400 with fxs |
| 23:28.10 | trixter | linlin: yeah that is what I paid for my parents |
| 23:28.13 | trixter | works well in their system |
| 23:28.14 | linlin | looking at the previous sales, most are 10$ for the card, 7 shipping |
| 23:28.21 | Qwell | I think I paid like $13 |
| 23:28.30 | [av]bani | not having to worry about drivers and pci slots, there's just no comparison. |
| 23:28.32 | trixter | ebay doesnt charge on shipping so people jack up shipping and lower item cost to lower total ebay fees |
| 23:28.43 | linlin | so this is a good card to get ptsn into my asterisk box right? |
| 23:28.52 | linlin | of course trixter |
| 23:28.52 | Qwell | I wouldn't say "good", but it works |
| 23:28.53 | trixter | it works for my parents |
| 23:29.08 | Qwell | I should sell my tdm10b... |
| 23:29.12 | trixter | and if it goes out its a whole lot cheaper to replace than a tdm400p |
| 23:29.17 | tzanger | trixter: yes, and I give them negative feedback when they do that |
| 23:29.29 | trixter | however if you want multiple fxo ports (or any fxs) that card wont work as well |
| 23:29.30 | tzanger | charging me $50 shipping on a $20 1lb item is bullshit |
| 23:29.36 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : And the massive reusability of the SPA-3000 as a remote gateway... geez... |
| 23:29.54 | trixter | tzanger: why? you agreed to a total price if they charged you that total price why say anything bad about them? |
| 23:30.01 | [av]bani | yeah, but i guess perlmonkee got upset at me for mentioning it so... |
| 23:30.06 | trixter | further there are costs more than postage, there is the packing materials, the time to pack em etc |
| 23:30.08 | tzanger | they didn't tell me the shipping charge until after I win the auction |
| 23:30.12 | trixter | and in my case the 10 mile drive to drop them off |
| 23:30.18 | trixter | ahhhh |
| 23:30.21 | trixter | well that is different |
| 23:30.27 | [av]bani | fender, not sure why anyone would pick x100 for fxo really, unless they're flat broke or something :) |
| 23:30.28 | tzanger | trixter: and I know from my own ebay experience that it doesn't cost US$50 to ship 1lb USPS |
| 23:30.29 | trixter | you should have emailed em first |
| 23:30.47 | Qwell | yeah... |
| 23:30.47 | tzanger | trixter: if they have such extraneous conditions they should note it in the auction |
| 23:30.50 | trixter | generally if shipping isnt listed I wont buy |
| 23:30.54 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 23:30.55 | jbot | i guess docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 23:30.57 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : I was cheap at the start too. Now Ive spent a fair bit on my setup and feel jsut fine about it. SPA-2k/3k/941 here .... |
| 23:31.02 | tzanger | I've bought well over US$150k of gear (mostly telecom) and have a good handle on what things cost to ship |
| 23:31.04 | Qwell | somebody buy my tdm10b, so I can buy a new cpu/mb :P |
| 23:31.24 | [av]bani | fender, i need to find a cheapy external 4port fxo, know of any? |
| 23:31.28 | tzanger | I take the "no shipping charge" as "reasonable" and if they fuck me I just leave -ve fb |
| 23:31.47 | tzanger | basically it comes down to "don't be a dick" |
| 23:32.19 | trixter | I would never trust someone who doesnt disclose shipping prices ... I try to protect myself beforehand rather than retaliate after |
| 23:32.20 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : http://www.voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=94_286_120 |
| 23:32.22 | trixter | but that is just me |
| 23:32.26 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : check the Clipcomm |
| 23:32.35 | tzanger | I don't quite consider it retaliation but yes, I tend to agree. |
| 23:32.49 | [av]bani | hmm not too bad |
| 23:32.57 | [TK]D-Fender | it was going for $350 a week ago... |
| 23:33.00 | *** join/#asterisk bzbw (n=wlwzhang@24-205-27-223.dhcp.nrwl.ca.charter.com) |
| 23:33.05 | trixter | well any action done in response other than getting yourself back to where you were beforehand is by definition retaliation :P |
| 23:33.07 | [av]bani | tried it? |
| 23:33.32 | tzanger | heh or perhaps just good citizenship -- warn the others that this guy's a prick |
| 23:33.45 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : nope, but I've heard its ok. Check for reviews. I was considering it for one of my satellite offices.. |
| 23:34.17 | [av]bani | whats the least sucky cheap sip phone then? :) |
| 23:34.35 | trixter | damn the SAC AUG library has outgrown its previous storage space.. and I am getting 5 ATAs and 3 sip phones and a tdm410p tomorrow |
| 23:34.38 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : thats a dangerously worded question :0 |
| 23:34.40 | bzbw | hi, anyone knows if i can define a context to run base on the time and date defined in another context? i.e., working_hour|myoffice_hour? |
| 23:34.42 | trixter | I gotta get a larger space for it ... |
| 23:34.44 | [av]bani | i'm a dangerous person |
| 23:35.06 | tzanger | bzbw: huh? |
| 23:35.07 | trixter | thevoipconnection.com rox for giving the sac aug so many different devices to play with |
| 23:35.19 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : If you don't need a speakerphone I'd say Polycom IP301, if so next in line is the SPA-941, followed by the Polycom IP 501. |
| 23:35.32 | tzanger | why not just gotoiftime() or whatever the 1.2.1 equivalent is now? |
| 23:35.35 | linlin | how sufficent is 10mbit lan for voip ? |
| 23:35.41 | bzbw | I have a list of holidays that I want to have it run with off hour menu |
| 23:35.45 | Qwell | linlin: how many calls? |
| 23:35.50 | linlin | 1 |
| 23:35.53 | tzanger | bzbw: yeah, and? |
| 23:35.57 | Qwell | linlin: more than sufficient |
| 23:35.58 | tzanger | read the asterisk handbook |
| 23:36.01 | linlin | k |
| 23:36.03 | tzanger | I don't think it's been updated for 1.2.1 yet |
| 23:36.11 | [av]bani | hmm spa941 looks like a pa1688 clone |
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| 23:36.27 | bzbw | tzanger: I did, but it does not seems to described this |
| 23:36.29 | linlin | thats good i can just use some of this old 10mbit hardware for my asterisk stuff |
| 23:36.52 | tzanger | bzbw: show application gotoiftime |
| 23:36.58 | [TK]D-Fender | I own an SPA-941. It is by no means even CLOSE to a PA168(8) phones. It is a baby-Cisco in all ways .... |
| 23:37.02 | bzbw | In fact I have a officehour|*|*|mon-fri| but it covers everythign |
| 23:37.13 | [av]bani | is that good or bad :) |
| 23:37.22 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : excepts LICENSING :D |
| 23:37.25 | [TK]D-Fender | so GOOD |
| 23:37.26 | tzanger | so fill in *|* if you want specific days :-) |
| 23:37.35 | [TK]D-Fender | I love my SPA-941 |
| 23:37.35 | [av]bani | well, the pa1688 are open sores!@#!!11 |
| 23:37.40 | [TK]D-Fender | great value phone. |
| 23:37.49 | [TK]D-Fender | yes, VERY sores! |
| 23:37.50 | [TK]D-Fender | ;) |
| 23:37.59 | [av]bani | hows the build though? the sub 200 phones all feel flimsy and crap |
| 23:38.31 | [TK]D-Fender | It feels just like its big brothers. Thats the big change from its predecessor. the 841 felt like SHIT. |
| 23:38.40 | [TK]D-Fender | Its a very solid phone now.. |
| 23:38.45 | ManxPower | [av]bani, If they were not so UGLY, we might consider them |
| 23:38.45 | bzbw | tzanger: but there are too many holidays to be put in there, I want to define a context with all the holidays, then other context will be base on the holiday context |
| 23:38.49 | [av]bani | big brothers meaning the 79xx? |
| 23:38.55 | Qwell | kram: y0! |
| 23:39.05 | kram | hi qwell |
| 23:39.07 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower : You consider the SPA-941 ugly? I've seen FAR worse... |
| 23:39.20 | [av]bani | the phone on my desk is uglier :P |
| 23:39.25 | [av]bani | so the spa-941 would be a step up |
| 23:39.26 | Qwell | kram: was starting to think you got kidnapped. :) |
| 23:39.29 | [TK]D-Fender | I kinda like it actually... I jsut wish they'd tweak the soft-key order just a little... |
| 23:39.47 | kram | i'm in paris hehe |
| 23:39.51 | Qwell | ooo, fun |
| 23:39.56 | [av]bani | ip501 looks nice |
| 23:40.03 | Qwell | kram: I'll be on the next flight out. heh |
| 23:41.21 | [TK]D-Fender | IP 501 is a very solid choice, and if you want the perks on it is well worth the extra $30 |
| 23:41.37 | [av]bani | hmm yeah really, for $199 vs $149 really looks like no comparison |
| 23:41.48 | [av]bani | maybe at $99 the spa-941 would be a better bargain :) |
| 23:42.28 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : it is a toss up for me though. Depends on the need. $30 can go elsewhere in a person's setup... I suggest each equally for slighlty different scenarios. |
| 23:42.57 | [TK]D-Fender | For $100 its be the automatic winner up to the $200 mark. |
| 23:43.20 | [TK]D-Fender | At 2 regs / 4 lines its already a "serious" phone in my eyes |
| 23:44.00 | [av]bani | hm, does ip501 support sRTP? |
| 23:44.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Still waiting for the runours of the 942 to solidify a bit more and hopefully drive down the 941's price and fill the gap (adding PoE, 2nd port, *BACKLIGHT*) |
| 23:44.46 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : not sure actually. I believe the 941 does though... will ahve to double-check. |
| 23:44.59 | [TK]D-Fender | then again.... its all LAN to me here. |
| 23:45.13 | file[laptop] | meep |
| 23:46.01 | [av]bani | fender, so the spa-941 is same build quality as cisco 79xx? |
| 23:46.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Feels jsut the same. |
| 23:46.20 | [av]bani | :o |
| 23:47.04 | [av]bani | that dlink pbx thingy is intriguing, wonder if it runs * :)) |
| 23:47.13 | [TK]D-Fender | I bought it following VoipSpeaks' preview, then REVIEW. |
| 23:48.15 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : I put no faith in ANY of these other "PBX" toasters that the small-fry's are coming out with. The only thing I care about are FXS/FXO gateways, and straight SIP phones. I hate the other boxes "brains". |
| 23:48.37 | [av]bani | well, there's something to be said about fanless/0-moving-parts solid state pbx |
| 23:49.06 | [av]bani | when i do build the 'production' asterisk, its going to be fanless + compactflash :)) or something |
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| 23:50.31 | minra | evening/abend |
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| 23:53.15 | [TK]D-Fender | [av]bani : there are some builds like that but CF's max # writes is a concernt, plus the CPU requirements if transcoding is involved. |
| 23:53.21 | Qwell | minra: You make it sound like a bad thing |
| 23:53.40 | [TK]D-Fender | I have a WRT54GS on the back-burner here, just waiting for * to be installed on it :D |
| 23:54.06 | [TK]D-Fender | minra : details.. |
| 23:55.07 | minra | just a lot to learn. anybody have a link to a nice case study for implementation in a small <30 person company? |
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| 23:55.50 | [TK]D-Fender | minra : Not much to say really. What do you think there is to know? What kind of lines / phones are you considering? |
| 23:55.58 | minra | yeah details. integration with my crm stuff... just feel helpless |
| 23:56.15 | [TK]D-Fender | How much "integration, and what are they expecting "out of the gate"? |
| 23:56.22 | tzanger | minra: not really, it's different for everyone |
| 23:56.26 | tzanger | depending on needs and expectations |
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| 23:56.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Also, what kind of wiring do you have on-site? Budget? |
| 23:56.48 | minra | they want to run it over a wireless link (microwave ISP), and have fallback to a couple of isdn lines |
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| 23:57.27 | minra | on site is some kind of old siemens pbx. budget is unspecified. boss doesn't want to consider his needs. |
| 23:57.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Hmmm. Can't advise on ISDN, but for phones in that qty I'd say Polycom all the way. |
| 23:57.55 | minra | ok thanks for the reference |
| 23:57.57 | Qwell | minra: how high is the latency on the microwave? |
| 23:58.01 | tzanger | wireless might be kind of spotty depends on the link margin |
| 23:58.01 | Qwell | It may be less than ideal |
| 23:58.11 | minra | yeah i'm dubious on those two issues |
| 23:58.14 | tzanger | think heavy fog/rain/snow and wind |
| 23:58.33 | tzanger | it can work great if your link is overdesigned but all of this needs to be looked at |
| 23:58.40 | minra | yep |
| 23:59.04 | [av]bani | fender, cf max writes is largely non issue |
| 23:59.18 | Qwell | [av]bani: especially if you're just putting static configs on there |
| 23:59.27 | [av]bani | even if you write to cf several times per second for a decade or more, it still wont matter |
| 23:59.27 | Qwell | now, if you're doing something like voicemail...it may be another story |
| 23:59.34 | Qwell | oh, really? |
| 23:59.35 | [av]bani | modern cf is rated for millions of writes |
| 23:59.46 | tzanger | [av]bani: I think you overestimate the media |
| 23:59.54 | [av]bani | compared to hd? |
| 23:59.59 | trixter | CF typicaly has wearleveling built in too |
