irclog2html for #asterisk on 20051230

`00:00.31`	`kink0`	`I tried fprintf(stdio,"Dial(Console/dsp5)\n"); but asterisk does not reconize as instruction.`
`00:01.08`	`saitech`	`echo "SET VARIABLE DIALCOMMAND Console/dsp5"`
`00:01.22`	`saitech`	`and in extensions Dial($DIALCOMMAND)`
`00:01.47`	`kink0`	`saitech, but is executed into the same priority where I have my AGI ?`
`00:02.35`	`kink0`	`let's say i.e. I want to replace exten-> _6xxxx,1, Dial .... with exten -> _6xxxx,1,AGI(myprog)`
`00:02.39`	`saitech`	`try this. _XXX.,1,agi(dial.php)`
`00:02.50`	`saitech`	`_XXX.,2,Dial($DIALCOMMAND)`
`00:03.39`	`kink0`	`saitech, yes, but the case is that dial.php in my enviroment must be running while the channel is used`
`00:03.42`	`Equinox`	`Hey what softphone do you guys recommend for Windows? Something easy to configure.. I don't need any multiple lines crap`
`00:03.54`	`anonymouz666`	`XTEN`
`00:04.02`	`kink0`	`so never priority 2 will be executed, for that reason I need to send the Dial from the AGI app`
`00:04.03`	`_DAW`	`Xten`
`00:04.10`	`Equinox`	`Xten's configuration is a little hard to walk folks through on the phone.. But I guess it's the best?`
`00:04.13`	`_DAW`	`or firefly for iax`
`00:04.19`	`saitech`	`ahh. try to look at voip-info for AGI commands then`
`00:04.19`	`Equinox`	`iax is fine`
`00:04.30`	`anonymouz666`	`what about Linux? A good softphone?`
`00:04.38`	`Equinox`	`kphone :)`
`00:04.40`	`saitech`	`kphone`
`00:04.45`	`anonymouz666`	`KDE Phone?`
`00:04.48`	`Equinox`	`user/password/server and you're off.. That's the way it should be.`
`00:04.51`	`anonymouz666`	`I don't use KDE`
`00:04.53`	`saitech`	`xten can be used for linux too if i remeber correctly`
`00:04.57`	`anonymouz666`	`I don't have KDE libs`
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`00:05.30`	`saitech`	`i dont know any gnome softphones, i use KDE`
`00:06.11`	`saitech`	`can anyone help me, with a problem lige this. Im getting some errors in the debug logger. It keeps spamming "chan_sip.c: failed to grab lock... trying again" its not contant, but it seems like it loops for some time now or then. When it spams me with these errors, it seems like asterisk is hanging a bit, and i cant getting any calls through.`
`00:06.15`	`kink0`	`saitech, my case is , suposse that you want insert a sub-priority , you need to execute Dial(Console/dsp) from the same priority , lets say 1 , and from your app, because your app is running all time while channel is used.`
`00:06.24`	`saftsack__`	`someone who has visdn=?`
`00:07.23`	`saitech`	`i agree kink0. i think the only way to do it, is to dial via AGI, if there are any AGI DIAL command`
`00:07.52`	`saitech`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+AGI`
`00:08.00`	`kink0`	`yeahhh, but I don't found any AGI DIAL command`
`00:08.51`	`saitech`	`it seems like you cant dial via AGI, but you can use different commands on the channel via AGI. i dont know if that helps in your situation. But you should consider another solution for your problem`
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`00:10.34`	`kink0`	`saitech, yes !! that helps !!!! reading that info now !`
`00:10.44`	`kink0`	`I think that is exactly I was searching.`
`00:10.59`	`saitech`	`sounds good. now i only want to solve my own problem :)`
`00:11.27`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack__: as i told u at the begining. use misdn and misdn user from jolly in version 3.1 then it sould work with chan_misdn and * 1.2.x`
`00:11.45`	`Equinox`	`Is there a version of firefly that doesn't expire?`
`00:11.49`	`hugo-v6`	`but u have to compile and install everything for urself`
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`00:12.56`	`kink0`	`saitech, if help sometimes I got "chan_sip.c: failed to grab ... " but I don't know why. I use now 1.2.1 and I have not observe if persist in this new version.`
`00:13.07`	`saftsack__`	`hugo-v6, ok where to find the jolly packages?`
`00:14.55`	`saitech`	`kink0 i use 1.2.1 too, and i had the same problem with 1.2 i have tried both centos 4.2 and gentoo both with a 2.6 kernel`
`00:15.20`	`saitech`	`i am considering the possibility, that its a hardware error. mostly my thought lies at the memory module`
`00:15.23`	`hugo-v6`	`at the same place where the install_misdn script gets it from: http://isdn.jolly.de/download/v3.1/`
`00:15.37`	`hugo-v6`	`misdn from beronet.com/downloads`
`00:16.02`	`saftsack__`	`so i just have to modify the install_misdn script?`
`00:16.07`	`saitech`	`kink0 try to look at the "exec" agi command. maybe thgat can be used for dialing. im not sure, just a wild guess.`
`00:16.16`	`hugo-v6`	`nope. do everything by hand.`
`00:16.23`	`saftsack__`	`ok`
`00:16.35`	`saftsack__`	`i see here install_misdn loads version 3.1`
`00:16.38`	`saftsack__`	`HTTP_MISDN_SRC=http://isdn.jolly.de/download/v3.1`
`00:16.38`	`saftsack__`	`HTTP_MISDNUSER_SRC=http://isdn.jolly.de/download/v3.1`
`00:16.52`	`hugo-v6`	`which huh?`
`00:17.02`	`saftsack__`	`yes they released a new one ;)`
`00:17.05`	`saftsack__`	`some days ago`
`00:17.24`	`saftsack__`	`maybe hfcpci is broken?`
`00:17.52`	`hugo-v6`	`i look at the pages from beronet every day or 2 and they dont wrote that in the latest news. suckers.`
`00:17.57`	`hugo-v6`	`i dont belive that`
`00:18.37`	`hugo-v6`	`try using an older kernelgot errors (with the 3.0) and new (>2.6.10) kernels`
`00:19.05`	`saftsack__`	`^^`
`00:19.09`	`saftsack__`	`kernelgot?`
`00:19.20`	`hugo-v6`	`kernel got`
`00:19.53`	`saftsack__`	`whats that?`
`00:20.00`	`saftsack__`	`oh`
`00:20.18`	`saftsack__`	`but i have there a 2.6.13 kernel too running with the bn4so card`
`00:20.20`	`saitech`	`kink0 what dist, kernel and hardware do you use?`
`00:20.45`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack__: well. me 2.`
`00:21.03`	`hugo-v6`	`ahh iirc it was because of the avmfritz module which wont compile with newer kernels`
`00:21.12`	`saftsack__`	`:)`
`00:21.27`	`hugo-v6`	`and indeed. the script that i have uses 3.1 version too...`
`00:21.30`	`saftsack__`	`did you ever phone with mr. richter?`
`00:21.40`	`hugo-v6`	`so u can use the install_misdn script`
`00:21.54`	`saftsack__`	`yes i used it allready ;)`
`00:21.58`	`saftsack__`	`doesnt work`
`00:22.02`	`saftsack__`	`no connection`
`00:22.05`	`hugo-v6`	`i phoned with 2-3 ppl fro mtechstaff at beronet.`
`00:22.17`	`saftsack__`	`mr. richter is imho very nice`
`00:22.34`	`hugo-v6`	`iirc a mr richter was under them also and a man with a strange name`
`00:22.43`	`saftsack__`	`^^`
`00:22.43`	`hugo-v6`	`the are all verry nice and helpful`
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`00:23.02`	`saftsack__`	`yes thats great`
`00:23.15`	`saftsack__`	`so do you think, thats a driver issue, that my card doesnt work?`
`00:23.24`	`hugo-v6`	`btw. as i told. start with old version (1.0.10) if it works u know its not ur kernel/misdn stuff that makes problems`
`00:23.35`	`saftsack__`	`yes ok`
`00:24.20`	`saftsack__`	`i hate backports ;)`
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`00:26.10`	`hugo-v6`	`thats no "backport"`
`00:26.37`	`saftsack__`	`why=?`
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`00:27.09`	`hugo-v6`	`backports are softwares which are compiled/patched for older versions. ie apps from 1.2 patched to work in 1.0.x.`
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`00:27.31`	`gnosys`	`hiho`
`00:27.35`	`saftsack__`	`oh ok`
`00:27.38`	`saftsack__`	`hi`
`00:27.56`	`hugo-v6`	`23114124 billionth re gnosys ;)`
`00:28.07`	`trixter`	`when doing an ENUMLOOKUP in ael how do you differentiate between EnumLookup (deprecated) and ENUMLOOKUP (not deprecated) given that ael aparently treats stuff as case insensitive and matches against EnumLookup ?`
`00:28.08`	`gnosys`	`?`
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`00:28.33`	`hugo-v6`	`not that important ;)`
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`00:29.20`	`gnosys`	`anybody here that has setup distinctive rings controlled by * for a polycom 501 (or similar) phone?`
`00:30.35`	`m_poupier`	`Hi guys!! i just installed * with a TMD411P card i have my house line in the FXO port and one of my regular set in the FXS port all is great, i have call waiting on my line and i can hit the flash button on the hard set connected to the FXS port with no problem but how do i do that in a softphone?`
`00:31.26`	`saftsack__`	`hugo-v6, same issue with older asterisk`
`00:31.55`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack__: then try kernel. 1.6.8`
`00:32.01`	`hugo-v6`	`aeh 2.6.8`
`00:32.09`	`saftsack__`	`so old? ^^`
`00:32.13`	`hugo-v6`	`jep`
`00:32.21`	`hugo-v6`	`that was stable at that time`
`00:32.42`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack__: btw: removed the asterisk modules before new install?`
`00:32.48`	`saftsack__`	`ye`
`00:32.49`	`saftsack__`	`s`
`00:32.57`	`saftsack__`	`rm -r /usr/lib/asterisk`
`00:33.01`	`hugo-v6`	`welll then`
`00:33.10`	`hugo-v6`	`try older kernel`
`00:33.14`	`saftsack__`	`ok`
`00:33.29`	`blitzrage`	`rm -f /usr/include/asterisk/*.h is a good idea too`
`00:33.59`	`saftsack__`	`so retry?`
`00:34.48`	`saftsack__`	`yes i give it a second try`
`00:35.25`	`hugo-v6`	`blitzrage: yep, i forgot.`
`00:35.46`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack__: u also have to recompile misdn-stuff too.`
`00:35.52`	`saftsack__`	`yes did taht`
`00:35.56`	`hugo-v6`	`good`
`00:35.57`	`saftsack__`	`but i didnt reload`
`00:35.59`	`saftsack__`	`shame on me`
`00:36.06`	`hugo-v6`	`reload?`
`00:36.12`	`hugo-v6`	`restart`
`00:36.24`	`hugo-v6`	`!`
`00:37.05`	`m_poupier`	`nobody on how to execute a flash/link operation with a softphone on *?`
`00:37.19`	`m_poupier`	`i've really looked every where i know and i'm running out of ideas`
`00:37.37`	`saftsack__`	`reboot???`
`00:37.40`	`saftsack__`	`i didnt change the kernel`
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`00:39.05`	`saftsack__`	`read READM.asterisk_stable, to avoid a *`
`00:39.05`	`saftsack__`	`* certain Segmentation fault, which results *`
`00:39.06`	`saftsack__`	`* in crashing the asterisk during Phone *`
`00:39.06`	`saftsack__`	`* call!`
`00:39.08`	`saftsack__`	`whats that?`
`00:39.45`	`hugo-v6`	`that says, pathc it`
`00:39.59`	`saftsack__`	`is there the same issue with 1.2.1?`
`00:40.13`	`hugo-v6`	`there is a patch in the misdn-dir which should be applied to * in the maindir`
`00:40.30`	`hugo-v6`	`probably not, dunno. but thats not ur problem`
`00:40.47`	`hugo-v6`	`since it doenst crash during phone calls.`
`00:40.50`	`saftsack__`	`i have asterisk in production in the buero`
`00:40.50`	`saftsack__`	`^^`
`00:40.57`	`hugo-v6`	`it doesnt find the port at all`
`00:41.05`	`saftsack__`	`port?`
`00:41.20`	`hugo-v6`	`your port (isdn-card)`
`00:41.23`	`saftsack__`	`No Connect port:1`
`00:41.28`	`saftsack__`	`yes here`
`00:41.36`	`saftsack__`	`so now ill test an older kernel`
`00:41.51`	`hugo-v6`	`i patched every running machine with that patch`
`00:42.07`	`saftsack__`	`ok`
`00:42.08`	`hugo-v6`	`beside that i use only 1.0. on my production boxes`
`00:42.22`	`saftsack__`	`scripts/kconfig/mconf.c:91: error: static declaration of 'current_menu' follows non-static declaration`
`00:42.28`	`hugo-v6`	`so i dunno what happens if u use 1.2`
`00:42.31`	`saftsack__`	`never take a config from a newer kernel :)`
`00:42.46`	`saftsack__`	`ill ask the beronet man tomorrow :)`
`00:42.46`	`hugo-v6`	`u have only to use make oldconfig`
`00:42.53`	`saftsack__`	`right :)`
`00:42.55`	`_Sam--`	`would it be a really bad idea to play MOH from a CF card?`
`00:43.11`	`saftsack__`	`hugo-v6, same error`
`00:43.26`	`hugo-v6`	`same error?`
`00:43.40`	`hugo-v6`	`ah`
`00:43.52`	`hugo-v6`	`what kernel do u use? vanilla from kernel org?`
`00:44.08`	`saftsack__`	`yes now ill test a vanilla`
`00:44.35`	`hugo-v6`	`well since i wanted to try 1.2 also ill get my hands backo n it now too`
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`00:44.52`	`saftsack__`	`bacjo n it?`
`00:45.10`	`hugo-v6`	`what?`
`00:45.21`	`saftsack__`	`did you ever had a segmentation fault with misdn?`
`00:45.29`	`hugo-v6`	`oh suer`
`00:45.31`	`hugo-v6`	`sure`
`00:45.41`	`saftsack__`	`in production?`
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`00:45.45`	`hugo-v6`	`i goot ooops with misdn.`
`00:45.49`	`hugo-v6`	`its crap`
`00:45.49`	`hugo-v6`	`no`
`00:46.03`	`saftsack__`	`so thats important`
`00:46.53`	`saftsack__`	`lass mal deutsch reden, solange keiner hier ist :)`
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`00:47.35`	`saftsack__`	`scripts/kconfig/lkc.h:63: error: previous declaration of 'current_menu' was here`
`00:47.35`	`saftsack__`	`make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/mconf.o] Fehler 1`
`00:47.37`	`saftsack__`	`same error`
`00:48.18`	`saftsack__`	`hugo-v6, there is also misdn 3.4`
`00:49.43`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack__: indeed. tehr also is misdn 3.3got non of that newer versions to work with chan_misdn`
`00:50.42`	`saftsack__`	`ok`
`00:50.56`	`saftsack__`	`so kernelconfigs sucks here :(`
`00:52.22`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack__: btw: as is see i get also entitylist not empty also here. but mine works ;)`
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`00:52.40`	`saftsack__`	`;)`
`00:52.49`	`saftsack__`	`but you use nt mode, right?`
`00:53.39`	`hugo-v6`	`cp /boot/next-oldest-config /usr/src/linux-2.6.8.1/.config; make oldconfig + hit enter a lot of times`
`00:53.43`	`hugo-v6`	`yes`
`00:53.50`	`saftsack__`	`yes worked now`
`00:53.56`	`saftsack__`	`i have a 2.6.9 here`
`00:53.59`	`saftsack__`	`is that good too?`
`00:54.26`	`hugo-v6`	`dont remember if that owkred too here (also tried that kernel)`
`00:54.32`	`hugo-v6`	`worked`
`00:54.39`	`saftsack__`	`ok`
`00:54.44`	`saftsack__`	`ill give it a try`
`00:54.54`	`saftsack__`	`so rebooting first`
`00:55.13`	`saftsack__`	`i hope the pc boots, because it is a remote pc in the "keller"`
`00:55.13`	`saftsack__`	`^^`
`00:56.10`	`saftsack__`	`ohh f***`
`00:56.19`	`saftsack__`	`the older kernel hasnt the network drivers`
`00:56.30`	`saftsack__`	`back in a few seconds ;)`
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`00:58.28`	`hugo-v6`	`i dont get it`
`00:58.48`	`hugo-v6`	`every thing works fine now with asterisk 1.2.1`
`00:59.00`	`hugo-v6`	`someone pls give me a gun`
`00:59.52`	`hugo-v6`	`i hate it sometimes`
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`01:01.27`	`kn0x`	`Your Asterisk modules directory, located at /usr/lib/asterisk/modules contains modules that were not installed by this version of Asterisk. Please ensure that these modules are compatible with this version before attempting to run Asterisk.`
`01:01.37`	`kn0x`	`app_addon_sql_mysql.so app_saycountpl.so cdr_addon_mysql.so format_mp3.so res_config_mysql.so`
`01:01.49`	`kn0x`	`i deleted these all and then recompiled....`
`01:01.52`	`kn0x`	`how does this happen`
`01:02.34`	`kn0x`	`i could care less but asterisk wont start`
`01:03.16`	`hugo-v6`	`kn0x: modules from an old version?`
`01:03.26`	`kn0x`	`yeah i guess`
`01:03.33`	`kn0x`	`1.0.10 i was running`
`01:03.46`	`hugo-v6`	`and now? compiling 1.2x?`
`01:03.52`	`hugo-v6`	`then thats the reason`
`01:03.53`	`kn0x`	`then i compiled 1.2`
`01:03.58`	`kn0x`	`ohh`
`01:04.11`	`kn0x`	`but i deleted them...`
`01:04.22`	`hugo-v6`	`well doenst look so ;)`
`01:04.28`	`kn0x`	`and now on the 2nd recompile it bringes it up`
`01:04.32`	`kn0x`	`gergh....`
`01:04.48`	`kn0x`	`i did a make update`
`01:04.55`	`hugo-v6`	`jluk: that was?`
`01:05.03`	`kn0x`	`ive had 1.2 installed for a while`
`01:07.53`	`xheliox`	`Is anyone doing VoIP over satellite?`
`01:07.54`	`hugo-v6`	`well... im still wonder why msdin and asterisk 1.2.1 now work w/o errors.`
`01:08.28`	`hugo-v6`	`xheliox: sounds stupid. lots of ppl which will sniff and latency`
`01:09.20`	`xheliox`	`Yeah, well, I didn't ask if it sounds stupid, I asked if anyone here was doing it.`
`01:09.44`	`hugo-v6`	`well right. so i dont do it ;P`
`01:09.46`	`kink0`	`I got: pbx_spool.c:229 apply_outgoing: At least one of app or extension must be specified, along with tech and dest in file /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/dial`
`01:10.11`	`kink0`	`when my AGI program creates the dial file to insert into the priorities, any help ?`
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`01:10.29`	`kink0`	`of course my AGI program writes a line like Extension: 80`
`01:10.39`	`kink0`	`where extension 80 is one of the local extens`
`01:12.39`	`kn0x`	`how would i change the file asterisk plays for the meetme options`
`01:12.50`	`kn0x`	`is that in app_meetme.so ?`
`01:13.17`	`kn0x`	`errrr say the record name option`
`01:22.29`	`kn0x`	`question- how would i change the recording meetme plays for the announce users (the prompt to record your name)`
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`01:24.47`	`QbY`	`I have queues with external (off the switch) agents. They receive calls. But sometimes they need to send the call back into the switch. We can do this by hitting # and waiting for Transfer. Some calls do it, some don't.. What would cause the others to not do it--I can actually hear the tones being pressed but Asterisk doesn't..`
`01:26.00`	`saftsack_`	`howto say my computer not to use gcc-4.0?`
`01:26.11`	`saftsack_`	`a export CC=gcc-3.2 didnt help`
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`01:33.39`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack_: ehehe... didnt i alreyd told u at the begining that google said not to use gcc4? ;)`
`01:33.53`	`file`	`yay SMS stuff is so fun`
`01:33.57`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack_: but to ur question, dont know ;)`
`01:34.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`file: !!!`
`01:34.22`	`saftsack_`	`yes i didnt use gcc 4 for misddn`
`01:34.25`	`hugo-v6`	`file: thought a sms"provider" or something is needed?`
`01:34.27`	`saftsack_`	`but for asterisk and libpri`
`01:34.33`	`postel`	`saftsack_: softlink gcc to the version you want it to use`
`01:34.39`	`file`	`I have an SMS modem`
`01:34.45`	`saftsack_`	`export CC=gcc-3.3`
`01:34.50`	`saftsack_`	`that is what i did`
`01:35.06`	`postel`	`saftsack_: no, thats NOT what you did, you exported the CC variable`
`01:35.08`	`file`	`sooo all I do, since this so very nicely done, is insert an entry into my table in the database... and the SMS gets sent out...`
`01:35.22`	`saftsack_`	`yes but howto take just gcc 3.3 for ALL?`
`01:35.34`	`saftsack_`	`so howto softlink?`
`01:35.44`	`saftsack_`	`or bettter where to softlink?`
`01:35.44`	`hugo-v6`	`file: sms modem?`
`01:35.45`	`postel`	`saftsack_: man ln`
`01:35.47`	`hugo-v6`	`url?`
`01:35.53`	`saftsack_`	`postel, yes but where?`
`01:35.58`	`file`	`hugo-v6: I don't have a URL, go Google`
`01:36.47`	`postel`	`saftsack_: softlink /usr/bin/gcc to /usr/bin/gcc-version-you-want`
`01:37.09`	`QbY`	`anyone know why asterisk would here some dtmf and not others?`
`01:37.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`file: Got that monitor I was talking about at last`
`01:37.19`	`saftsack_`	`but i first i have to save the file because it isnt a link, right?`
`01:37.27`	`saftsack_`	`softlink not a hardlink, right?`
`01:37.31`	`file`	`[TK]D-Fender: sweet`
`01:38.12`	`saftsack_`	`no its a link ^^`
`01:38.46`	`postel`	`at last..`
`01:38.46`	`saftsack_`	`gcc-Version 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-10)`
`01:38.46`	`saftsack_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:38.47`	`_DAW-LAPTOP`	`anyone here using realtime in a production environment and have comments on its reliability?`
`01:39.00`	`file`	`_DAW-LAPTOP: don't use it on a slow database`
`01:39.37`	`saftsack_`	`where are the istalled includes?`
`01:39.58`	`postel`	`saftsack_: oh, you're one of those..`
`01:40.03`	`saftsack_`	`vdr:/usr/src/asterisk# rm -r /usr/include/asterisk/`
`01:40.05`	`_DAW-LAPTOP`	`file: otherwise is it as stable as traditional config files as long as the database is fast and available?`
`01:40.05`	`hugo-v6`	`file: well dont find ur modem but better information concerning .de and sms-transfers`
`01:40.07`	`saftsack_`	`is that right?`
`01:40.45`	`file`	`hugo-v6: that made no sense to me`
`01:41.28`	`file`	`hugo-v6: anyway the SMS modem just has a SIM card in it for T-Mobile in the US, it connects to a computer in our datacenter via serial - and uses an application to send and receive messages`
`01:41.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`http://search.ncix.com/search.php?quicksearch=al1916w&minprice=Min.+Price&maxprice=Max.+Price&imagefield.x=0&imagefield.y=0`
`01:41.31`	`file`	`simple and effective`
`01:42.16`	`hugo-v6`	`file: well. i didnt find a "sms-modem" but informations about sending sms into german mobile-networks via special number and isdn-card`
`01:43.24`	`hugo-v6`	`file: sounds expensive`
`01:43.40`	`hugo-v6`	`mine costs about 1eurocent/sms`
`01:44.08`	`hugo-v6`	`will try that someday`
`01:44.09`	`file`	`it's not.`
`01:44.45`	`hugo-v6`	`file: whats the price/sms?`
`01:44.58`	`file`	`free`
`01:45.11`	`hugo-v6`	`well... _thats_ cheap`
`01:45.17`	`kn0x`	`plutonium ~ # asterisk plutonium ~ # asterisk -r Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl exist?)`
`01:45.23`	`hugo-v6`	`why the heck is it free?`
`01:45.35`	`file`	`long story`
`01:46.14`	`kn0x`	`why wont asterisk start anymore after i recompiled?`
`01:46.27`	`file`	`kn0x: asterisk -vvvvgc`
`01:46.49`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack_: query`
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`01:47.40`	`kn0x`	`http://pastebin.ca/35235`
`01:47.46`	`kn0x`	`dont see any errors`
`01:48.01`	`kn0x`	`Yuck! Error in buffer handling...: Connection reset by peer`
`01:48.03`	`hugo-v6`	`well... its getting late. time 4 a vodka.`
`01:48.29`	`saftsack_`	`WOW`
`01:48.30`	`saftsack_`	`:)`
`01:48.31`	`saftsack_`	`works`
`01:48.48`	`file`	`kn0x: it's probably staring you right in the face`
`01:49.01`	`file`	`and I can't get to pastebin.ca`
`01:49.13`	`file`	`because it's going over IPv6 and it's unreachable that way`
`01:49.14`	`file`	`lol`
`01:49.24`	`file`	`aha, there we go`
`01:49.28`	`kn0x`	`lol`
`01:49.40`	`kn0x`	`file- staring me in the face?`
`01:49.43`	`kn0x`	`Yuck! Error in buffer handling...: Connection reset by peer`
`01:49.49`	`kn0x`	`would that be it?`
`01:49.49`	`file`	`that's a normal error.`
`01:49.55`	`kn0x`	`oh`
`01:50.17`	`file`	`did you wipe out your modules directory just to be safe?`
`01:50.28`	`kn0x`	`Asterisk cleanly ending (2).`
`01:50.29`	`kn0x`	`yuep`
`01:50.33`	`kn0x`	`i did`
`01:50.35`	`mrdigital`	`Can you do ringback tones on A`
`01:50.43`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack_: indeed?`
`01:51.05`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack_: have i told u already my setup works now with 1.2.1 too?`
`01:51.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kn0x : #`
`01:51.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Found new ID3 Header`
`01:51.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`#`
`01:51.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Beginning asterisk shutdown....`
`01:51.19`	`Katty`	`hi.`
`01:51.22`	`file`	`is mpg123 freaking out?`
`01:51.28`	`hugo-v6`	`just wiped everythign and compiled fresh from source`
`01:51.28`	`file`	`Katty: !!!`
`01:51.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`One of your MP3's for MOH has an ID3 tag which is a no-no`
`01:51.40`	`saftsack_`	`hugo-v6, no :)`
`01:51.42`	`Katty`	`file: mew.`
`01:51.43`	`saftsack_`	`you didnt`
`01:51.55`	`Katty`	`oh`
`01:51.58`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack_: well now i did ;)`
`01:52.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:O`
`01:52.25`	`kn0x`	`during compile, it had a warming about mpg123 being the wrong versoin`
`01:52.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kn0x : might be a good idea to compile the proper one and strip the ID3 tags from your files....`
`01:52.51`	`saftsack_`	`also patched?`
`01:53.12`	`kn0x`	`id3 tags will mess it up?`
`01:53.27`	`file`	`Katty: I see 'chu!`
`01:54.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kn0x : IIRC yes`
`01:54.40`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack_: patched? ah no. ill see if i get crashes with isdn-calls`
`01:55.08`	`saftsack_`	`how often was it crash if when the patch didnt was applied`
`01:56.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`going to set up my new monitor on my Linux boot... bbiab`
`01:56.16`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack_: didnt crash. patched it that it naver would occure`
`01:56.31`	`saftsack_`	`yes i will ;;)`
`01:56.51`	`saftsack_`	`what does the patch do?`
`01:58.51`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack_: well as it says, it stops crashing asterisk during a phone call`
`01:59.03`	`kn0x`	`Asterisk SVN-trunk-r7498, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2005 Digium. Written by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com> ========================================================================= Broken pipe`
`01:59.05`	`saftsack_`	`but why? ^^`
`01:59.09`	`kn0x`	`what does broken pipe mean?`
`01:59.25`	`saftsack_`	`dunno but i have broken pipe errors sometimes`
`02:00.18`	`kn0x`	`should i call the plumber?`
`02:00.33`	`saftsack_`	`plumber?`
`02:00.37`	`slappingt`	`ne1 have a idea on what is going on here? When I pick up my POT on FXS I get 1 ring then a dial tone, then I can dial out to PSTN line`
`02:00.41`	`saftsack_`	`*CLI> Warning, flexibel rate not heavily tested!`
`02:00.49`	`saftsack_`	`hugo-v6, do you have the same warning?`
`02:01.07`	`hugo-v6`	`saftsack_: ka. cant remember that error`
`02:02.21`	`saftsack_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:02.22`	`saftsack_`	`:)`
`02:02.37`	`saftsack_`	`hmm but now i cant test anything :(`
`02:05.36`	`saftsack_`	`hugo-v6, maybe i can call you? :)`
`02:06.06`	`OloBola`	`how can I determine local long distance calls (whatever it's called) from local calls? I'm in San Jose, 408.`
`02:07.59`	`saftsack_`	`hugo-v6, oh i see patching asterisk is very easyy`
`02:08.36`	`harryvv`	`who is the sms master here`
`02:09.07`	`saftsack_`	`so im going to bed now`
`02:09.11`	`saftsack_`	`hugo-v6, thanks for all :=`
`02:09.12`	`saftsack_`	`:)`
`02:09.15`	`saftsack_`	`gn8`
`02:10.07`	`hugo-v6`	`hmz`
`02:13.26`	`Krill`	`Is the Woomera channel driver the main fix for integrating with Avaya PABXs via H323, I'm having issues passing DTMF with the ooh323 module, is there config on the oo323 which makes this work? thanks`
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`02:16.42`	`IOscanner`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:16.52`	`IOscanner`	`nat=yes doesn't do it`
`02:17.05`	`IOscanner`	`is there another command to state what the contact ip address is?`
`02:17.45`	`Krill`	`anyway to get inline DTMF working with OOH323 instead of using WOOMERA? so it integrates with an Avaya PABX well....`
`02:18.09`	`IOscanner`	`Asterisk has a private IP with portforwarding for the public IP`
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`02:20.39`	`file`	`[TK]D-Fender: !!!`
`02:24.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:O`
`02:24.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I clearly suck at XORG setup... and am impatient... I'll get to it another day...`
`02:24.56`	`file`	`ah`
`02:24.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`link when WinXP fails to boot :)`
`02:25.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`like*`
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`02:25.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I love my new monitor though :)`
`02:25.48`	`file`	`and does it love you back?`
`02:25.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`YES!`
`02:26.15`	`blitzrage`	`that's not what it told me`
`02:26.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`shup yuo!`
`02:27.15`	`blitzrage`	`that wasn't even english`
`02:28.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`its old-school gaming!`
`02:28.23`	`blitzrage`	`you wish`
`02:28.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And ir-speak`
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`02:32.18`	`xachen`	`Anybody here use Asterlink?`
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`02:36.04`	`kn0x`	`Dec 29 17:52:11 WARNING[12999]: chan_sip.c:1070 __sip_xmit: sip_xmit of 0x81381f8 (len 389) to 69.90.155.70:5060 returned -1: Bad file descriptor`
`02:39.42`	`kn0x`	`whats that about?`
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`02:46.19`	`xachen`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:46.21`	`xachen`	`woops :)`
`02:48.47`	`kn0x`	`any ideas?`
`02:49.11`	`xachen`	`nope :)`
`02:49.15`	`xachen`	`I'm hacing problems myself`
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`02:52.14`	`normast`	`Hi All.`
`02:52.17`	`De_Mon`	`sob I can't get a simple sip phone setup correctly this is embarasing`
`02:52.19`	`Qwell`	`IOscanner: externip`
`02:53.32`	`Qwell`	`xachen: asterlink, yes, why?`
`02:53.57`	`normast`	`Can anyone suggest a Voip Phone that works well with Asterisk.. Smon 320 or something like that.`
`02:54.21`	`Qwell`	`normast: snom, polycom, cisco, sipura/linksys`
`02:55.11`	`normast`	`I was looking at the sipura 841...`
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`02:55.28`	`Qwell`	`look at the SPA941`
`02:55.35`	`Qwell`	`far better I hear`
`02:55.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`841 feels like cheap junk, but means well. The 941 is pretty good, and any Polycom wins.`
`02:56.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`De_Mon : Whats not working?`
`02:58.37`	`normast`	`D-Fender: Are you using the polycom phones? Does the Transfer, Park, and blind transfer soft keys work?`
`02:59.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`normast : All good. I run 26 IP 600's at the office and an IP 601`
`02:59.51`	`junbug`	`[TK]D-Fender: you set paging?`
`02:59.56`	`junbug`	`set up*`
`03:00.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`not yet, but its on my hit-list`
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`03:00.21`	`xachen`	`Qwell, I'm trying to figure out what extension SIP incoming calls come into`
`03:00.34`	`Qwell`	`xachen: whatever your phone number is`
`03:00.55`	`xachen`	`thx`
`03:01.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xachen : How are these SIP cals being directed to your server?`
`03:03.23`	`xachen`	`figured it out`
`03:03.30`	`xachen`	`its just Asterlink isn't sending them via SIP yet`
`03:03.33`	`xachen`	`must take a couple hours`
`03:05.21`	`Qwell`	`did you register?`
`03:07.17`	`xachen`	`yup`
`03:07.30`	`xachen`	`its timing out atm`
`03:07.43`	`Qwell`	`it can't get the calls to you for some reason. likely a firewall issue`
`03:08.00`	`xachen`	`never had this issue before`
`03:08.07`	`xachen`	`well I know they aren't taking the hint its SIP :P`
`03:08.20`	`xachen`	`as I have it checked in my CP and I'm getting debug liens saying its trying to come in via IAX`
`03:08.41`	`Qwell`	`if the SIP register works, it should be doing SIP...`
`03:09.47`	`xachen`	`its not registering for some odd reason`
`03:10.14`	`Qwell`	`then you lied to me...`
`03:11.26`	`xachen`	`where did I lie?`
`03:11.26`	`Qwell`	`When I asked if you registered. :p`
`03:11.26`	`xachen`	`oops :p`
`03:11.26`	`xachen`	`I thoguht it was`
`03:11.26`	`xachen`	`I'm just dumb`
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`03:23.02`	`normast`	`m`
`03:23.48`	`kn0x`	`Dec 29 18:39:55 WARNING[5760]: chan_sip.c:1070 __sip_xmit: sip_xmit of 0x8157738 (len 389) to 69.90.155.70:5060 returned -1: Bad file descriptor`
`03:23.53`	`kn0x`	`whats this about?`
`03:24.14`	`kn0x`	`now notathing registers`
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`03:37.40`	`kn0x`	`why wont asterisk take my dtmf?!?!?`
`03:37.51`	`kn0x`	`and yes its set to inband`
`03:37.55`	`kn0x`	`im using a free ipkall did`
`03:37.56`	`Qwell`	`kn0x: on both?`
`03:37.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`from where to where?`
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`03:39.04`	`kn0x`	`what?`
`03:39.12`	`Qwell`	`Is the dtmfmode the same on both ends?`
`03:40.30`	`kn0x`	`well its a did from the pstn=== id imagine itd be inband`
`03:40.32`	`kn0x`	`ill try rfc...`
`03:40.53`	`Qwell`	`kn0x: yes, but the other side is also SIP`
`03:41.02`	`Qwell`	`So, you need to use whatever they use`
`03:41.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kn0x : Check what your provider is using.`
`03:43.33`	`Strom_C`	`good afternoon`
`03:43.45`	`Qwell`	`Strom_C: morning`
`03:44.01`	`Strom_C`	`how goes it?`
`03:44.08`	`Qwell`	`alright`
`03:44.24`	`TheCops`	`Polycom own!`
`03:44.45`	`TheCops`	`I love idle screen and buddies feature, it looks so nice. :)`
`03:44.56`	`Qwell`	`Strom_C: heard your name mentioned once or twice at Astricon. Were you there?`
`03:45.06`	`Strom_C`	`I wanted to go, but I couldn't make it`
`03:45.34`	`Qwell`	`sucks`
`03:45.40`	`Strom_C`	`yeah. oh well`
`03:45.57`	`Qwell`	`You were there in spirit...or something. heh`
`03:46.08`	`Strom_C`	`hmm, I wonder if there's a way to get a different second dial tone after pressing 9 instead of the same one with ignorepat`
`03:46.21`	`Qwell`	`You can on sccp ciscos.`
`03:46.22`	`Strom_C`	`heh, I was :)`
`03:46.31`	`Strom_C`	`these are zap phones`
`03:46.33`	`Qwell`	`oh`
`03:47.26`	`Strom_C`	`I have it go to silence after 9...I had some people come to me in a panic: "I CAN'T DIAL OUT!!"`
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`03:47.34`	`Strom_C`	`me: "just keep dialing"`
`03:47.36`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`03:47.59`	`Strom_C`	`ads by google:`
`03:48.00`	`Strom_C`	`Dial Tone`
`03:48.00`	`Strom_C`	`Dial tone online`
`03:48.00`	`Strom_C`	`Shop Target.com`
`03:48.00`	`Strom_C`	`www.target.com`
`03:48.09`	`Strom_C`	`target sells dial tone now?`
`03:48.12`	`Qwell`	`yep`
`03:48.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Shop smart! Shop S-Mart!`
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`03:49.14`	`Qwell`	`Strom_C: "JD" mentioned something about a LUG here in LA. You know where that is/the name of it?`
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`04:26.40`	`Strom_C`	`my one major remaining problem with AMP is that it's not recording CDRs to mysql`
`04:26.50`	`Strom_C`	`either that or asterisk-stat is not seeing them`
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`04:46.36`	`BugKham`	`Hi there`
`04:46.56`	`BugKham`	`can anyone help me with this mysql stuff`
`04:47.02`	`BugKham`	INSERT INTO `usage` SET `caller`='6652333', `starttime`='`System(/bin/date '+%C%y-%m-%d.%H:%M:%S)`';
`04:47.38`	`Qwell`	`BugKham: #mysql`
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`04:48.45`	`BugKham`	`QWell: huh, i'm having problems with escapes in asterisk cmd`
`04:49.00`	`BugKham`	`will they be able to help me out?`
`04:49.08`	`Qwell`	`What are you trying to do?`
`04:50.24`	`BugKham`	`trying to insert caller's start time to mysql db`
`04:50.46`	`Qwell`	`how?`
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`04:53.35`	`BugKham`	`execute system() function to get the current time`
`04:53.47`	`BugKham`	`then insert into mysql`
`04:54.02`	`Qwell`	`How are you trying to insert it into mysql?`
`04:54.56`	`BugKham`	`using MYSQL(Query resultid ${connid} query-string)`
`04:56.13`	`BugKham`	I tried the query-string with "INSERT\ INTO\ `usage`\ SET\ `caller`=6652333;"
`04:56.34`	`BugKham`	`it works`
`04:57.39`	`BugKham`	but when I tried with "INSERT\ INTO\ `usage`\ SET\ `caller`=6652333\,\ `starttime`=\\\'2005-12-30\ 11:57:04\\\';" it doesn't work
`04:57.54`	`Qwell`	`Why are you escaping the hell out of the date?`
`04:58.03`	`BugKham`	`I am using escape utilities from http://www.asteriskgui.com/index.php?get=utilities-mysqlscape`
`04:58.36`	`BugKham`	`it gave me that output`
`04:58.44`	`Qwell`	`yes, but why are you escaping the quotes?`
`04:59.46`	`BugKham`	`i tried not to escape them but didn't seem to work`
`04:59.49`	`Qwell`	`first things first, get a query that works with mysql my itself`
`04:59.56`	`Qwell`	`by*`
`05:00.10`	`BugKham`	`that's what I tried`
`05:00.21`	`Qwell`	`and did it work in mysql?`
`05:01.34`	`BugKham`	yes the quesry I tried was "INSERT INTO `usage` SET `caller`=6652333, `starttime`='2005-12-30 11:57:04';"
`05:02.02`	`Qwell`	`I believe you should be using # around dates with mysql`
`05:02.06`	`Qwell`	`it's been a while though`
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`05:03.31`	`BugKham`	`QWell: hmm, I am using mysql front end namely mysql front`
`05:06.23`	`Qwell`	`try it from the commandline`
`05:09.56`	`mrdigital`	`BugKham: pm?`
`05:11.32`	`BugKham`	`mrdigital: I inserting in a full DateTime format that's yyyy-mm-dd HH:MM:SS`
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`05:12.20`	`BugKham`	`mrdigital: the problem is probably from escapes`
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`05:20.17`	`BugKham`	`Qwell: this query string works well on command line`
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`05:36.10`	`ComputerWarm`	`Hello all is there any support for DTMF 3389`
`05:36.35`	`harryvv`	`?`
`05:37.40`	`harryvv`	`Computerwarm dont really understand your question. If you are talking about Dual Tone multiple frequency that applies to every number on the key pad.`
`05:38.37`	`ComputerWarm`	harryvv well the problem is i`m trying to fax something and i keep getting Dec 29 23:30:55 NOTICE[18900]: rtp.c:330 process_rfc3389: Comfort noise support incomplete in Asterisk (RFC 3389)
`05:40.39`	`harryvv`	`im having my own fax issues with asterisk`
`05:40.47`	`harryvv`	`Best time is ask tomarro when there is alot of activity here.`
`05:41.24`	`ComputerWarm`	`ok thanks have you been able to receive fax with asterisk. over sip?`
`05:41.25`	`Strom_C`	`why the hell are you using comfort noise generation with a fax?`
`05:41.33`	`Strom_C`	`and what codec are you using?`
`05:41.38`	`ComputerWarm`	`Strom_C G729`
`05:41.46`	`Strom_C`	`oh fuck no`
`05:41.47`	`dudes`	`that says a lot`
`05:41.51`	`Strom_C`	`you can't fax on that`
`05:41.56`	`Strom_C`	`G.711 ulaw / alaw only`
`05:42.05`	`ComputerWarm`	`oh never knew that thanks i will try it`
`05:42.08`	`harryvv`	`yea guess I should have guesed the codec`
`05:43.05`	`Strom_C`	`harryvv, what are your fax issues?`
`05:43.16`	`ComputerWarm`	`one of the problems with this is that the carrier only supports g729`
`05:43.28`	`Strom_C`	`ComputerWarm, that's a really craptacular carrier then`
`05:43.35`	`ComputerWarm`	`does anyone know of any service that will terminate 1800 numbers?`
`05:43.45`	`Strom_C`	`inbound or outbound?`
`05:43.51`	`ComputerWarm`	`out bound`
`05:43.54`	`Strom_C`	`nufone`
`05:44.07`	`ComputerWarm`	ya but they charge per minute for that don`t they?
`05:44.13`	`Strom_C`	`not on the 800 numbers, no`
`05:44.21`	`ComputerWarm`	`oh ok thanks`
`05:44.36`	`ComputerWarm`	doesn`t iax still terminate 1800 numbers
`05:44.44`	`ComputerWarm`	`iaxcomm or something like that`
`05:45.02`	`Strom_C`	`nufone has been rock-solidly reliable for me`
`05:45.08`	`ComputerWarm`	can`t remember the name i have been out of touch for so long
`05:45.35`	`ComputerWarm`	`Strom_C could you terminate the 1800 numbers for me through nufone until i can get an account setup?`
`05:45.43`	`ComputerWarm`	`its mainly only one number`
`05:45.52`	`Strom_C`	`no...go set up your own account!`
`05:46.04`	`Strom_C`	`lazy bum`
`05:46.30`	`loud`	`where's the nufone guy ?`
`05:46.37`	`loud`	`the one that always had an attitude.`
`05:47.29`	`ComputerWarm`	`jerjer you mean lol`
`05:47.47`	`loud`	`right, that one`
`05:48.09`	`ComputerWarm`	`good question`
`05:48.19`	`Strom_C`	`he's probably asleep`
`05:48.41`	`loud`	`i havent seen him in the room for days, weeks`
`05:48.51`	`Strom_C`	`christmas vacation perhaps`
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`05:53.39`	`benjk`	`no JerJer was here last night or the night before`
`05:53.48`	`benjk`	`~seen jerjer`
`05:53.50`	`jbot`	`jerjer <n=jj@pdpc/supporter/bronze/jerjer> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 20h 46m 58s ago, saying: 'teufel: look in /etc/init.d/'.`
`05:54.05`	`benjk`	`there you go`
`05:54.16`	`benjk`	`now you know, you got to look in /etc/init.d`
`05:54.26`	`benjk`	`will solve all your NuFone issues`
`05:54.51`	`Strom_C`	`hahahaah`
`05:55.11`	`benjk`	`what's that trouble anyway?`
`05:55.24`	`Strom_C`	`no, even better...I've got a giant box of stuff manufactured by western electric. THAT will solve all your nufone issues`
`05:55.26`	`benjk`	`wondering when your NuFone 1-800 number comes alive?`
`05:55.56`	`benjk`	`we were waiting for two full weeks`
`05:56.20`	`benjk`	`but not NuFone's fault`
`05:56.29`	`benjk`	`its the guys who issue those numbers`
`05:56.38`	`Strom_C`	`AT&T, I believe`
`05:56.41`	`benjk`	`takes 10-12 business days`
`05:56.49`	`benjk`	`RESPORG or AT&T`
`05:56.55`	`Strom_C`	`resporg is not a company`
`05:57.02`	`benjk`	`I didn't say company`
`05:57.04`	`Strom_C`	`resporg means "responsible organization"`
`05:57.07`	`benjk`	`I said "guys"`
`05:57.21`	`benjk`	`I see`
`05:57.29`	`Strom_C`	`yes, but I believe nufone uses AT&T`
`05:57.33`	`benjk`	`anyway, that's what NuFone told me`
`05:57.44`	`Strom_C`	`the resporg is the company handling the tollfree number`
`05:57.56`	`benjk`	`yes I realise that now`
`05:58.23`	`benjk`	`anyway, after a two weeks wait it came online`
`05:58.39`	`benjk`	`and now I just discovered that the number cannot be called from Canada`
`05:58.51`	`benjk`	`NANPA is such a screwed up scheme`
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`05:59.05`	`benjk`	`they should ditch that and do what all other countries do`
`05:59.13`	`Strom_C`	`it's not the numbering plan administration's fault`
`05:59.22`	`Strom_C`	`it's the regulatory bodies' fault`
`05:59.26`	`harryvv`	`Is sms more tcp or udp based? does the cell phone return a responce it recived all the sms messages?`
`05:59.26`	`benjk`	`either you share a country code or you dont`
`05:59.38`	`benjk`	`SMS is neither`
`05:59.43`	`benjk`	`SMS is MAP based`
`05:59.51`	`benjk`	`and MAP sits on top of SS7`
`06:00.07`	`harryvv`	`no guerentee that it can recieve all the message?`
`06:00.09`	`harryvv`	`okay`
`06:01.05`	`benjk`	`as for receiving SMS via a GSM handset, it's probably USB or Bluetooth`
`06:01.27`	`benjk`	`but as far as the GSM network is concerned, the handset is the end point, not your computer`
`06:01.27`	`harryvv`	`Well the question is reliability`
`06:01.55`	`benjk`	`reliability between SMS end points or between your phone and your computer?`
`06:01.56`	`harryvv`	`how dependable can a sms message be accuratly sent to the gsm cell phone.`
`06:01.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`benjk: heh, what "all" other countries do?`
`06:02.36`	`Corydon76-home`	`The only thing that all of the other countries have in common is that they all do it differently`
`06:02.41`	`benjk`	`Corydon: have their own countrycode and not pretend they are cross-border when they are not`
`06:03.10`	`Corydon76-home`	`Heck, some countries don't even have a single standard length for telephone numbers`
`06:03.20`	`Corydon76-home`	`Each city can decide on its own length`
`06:03.32`	`benjk`	`its not the city, its the telco`
`06:03.36`	`benjk`	`or the regulator`
`06:03.57`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yes, the telco... so numbers in a city can be different lengths`
`06:04.14`	`benjk`	`in any event it is silly to have 1-800 numbers that cannot be reached at all by participants in the 1 country code`
`06:04.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`1 is not a country code... it's a region code`
`06:04.56`	`benjk`	`most western countries now allow you to call overseas toll-free numbers (even though it is not toll-free)`
`06:05.13`	`benjk`	`but from Canada, you have absolutely no way to call certain 1-800 numbers`
`06:05.25`	`Corydon76-home`	`That's a matter left to the regulators. Some 800 numbers can't be called across state lines`
`06:05.29`	`Corydon76-home`	`Nevermind the country`
`06:06.20`	`benjk`	`no its a matter of whether or not the phone companies offer that service`
`06:06.32`	`Corydon76-home`	`What's nice about telecom regulation is that there's 51 different authorities in the US`
`06:06.59`	`benjk`	`and in most countries there is at least one through which you can call overseas toll-free numbers, charged at whatever the rate is to call that country`
`06:06.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's left to the market`
`06:07.09`	`drray`	`and overlapping`
`06:08.08`	`benjk`	`so if they share a country code with Canada, they should have a way for Canadians to call those numbers which they now cannot, even if that means they are no longer toll-free`
`06:08.28`	`Corydon76-home`	`but it's not a country code`
`06:08.32`	`benjk`	`but the way its now, Canadians have absolutely no way to call such a number`
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`06:08.47`	`benjk`	`it is a shared country code`
`06:08.47`	`Corydon76-home`	`And again, you're ignoring the fact that some 800 numbers can't be called across state lines, either`
`06:09.04`	`benjk`	`but that is a silly setup`
`06:09.11`	`Corydon76-home`	`There are 800 numbers in Tennessee that cannot be called from Kentucky or Alabama`
`06:09.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`In your opinion`
`06:09.26`	`benjk`	`and you think this is a good thing?`
`06:09.29`	`benjk`	`honestly?`
`06:09.36`	`drray`	`I can see the uses of such restrictions`
`06:09.48`	`Corydon76-home`	`Consider that an 800 number is paid per call by the recipient`
`06:10.03`	`benjk`	`if there are such restrictions they should create a numbering space for it`
`06:10.09`	`Corydon76-home`	`Shouldn't the recipient be able to decide what localities they're willing to accept charges for?`
`06:10.45`	`benjk`	`of course it is, but the deal with the owner of the number is that they pick up the cost within the US, not from overseas`
`06:10.49`	`drray`	`It'd be great if I could pick which rate centers could call my 800 number`
`06:10.49`	`Corydon76-home`	`Then, why should we confuse the consumer by charging for some 800 calls and not for others?`
`06:11.03`	`benjk`	`consequently, it is not a problem to let callers from overseas pay to US borders`
`06:11.11`	`Corydon76-home`	`drray: that's between you and your telco`
`06:11.21`	`smirl`	`if anyone ever needs to call U.S. toll free numbers, let me know i'll make you a sip extension on my switch. only toll free calling is allowed. (inless you figure out my LCR password lol)`
`06:11.23`	`benjk`	`only for callers from outside the toll-free zone`
`06:11.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`but that's not how 800 service works`
`06:11.47`	`benjk`	`It is EXACTLY how it works if you call from outside the US`
`06:11.49`	`Corydon76-home`	`Two companies can have the same 800 number, restricted to different areas of the country`
`06:12.03`	`benjk`	`minus Canada`
`06:12.13`	`Corydon76-home`	`Not necessarily`
`06:12.31`	`Corydon76-home`	`You can get 800 service in Canada, too, it's just more expensive`
`06:12.51`	`__Krush__`	`Does anyone know of a good IAX2 international provider?`
`06:12.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`10 cents a minute, IIRC`
`06:13.26`	`Corydon76-home`	`There's dozens of IAX2 international providers`
`06:13.31`	`benjk`	`you get an announcement that says "Calls to toll free numbers are not free of charge outside the United States. If you do not wish to get charged please hangup now. If you wish to continue, this call will be charged at the regular rate for calls to the United States"`
`06:14.02`	`Corydon76-home`	`benjk: sounds like you have a business plan for terminating 800 service to the US`
`06:14.24`	`benjk`	`Corydon: its not a plan - it is reality`
`06:14.36`	`drray`	`I don't think "hang up now" is an effective or enforceable EULA`
`06:14.37`	`__Krush__`	`Subscribed to a company called SIXTEL....but can only make US calls...Ok rates are 1.7 US cents/minute ..but support is non existent`
`06:14.41`	`benjk`	`I already get those announcements when I call 1-800 numbers`
`06:14.53`	`Corydon76-home`	`And your complaint is?`
`06:14.56`	`benjk`	`and I have got the same announcements from different countries`
`06:14.57`	`harryvv`	`krush, yea...`
`06:15.25`	`harryvv`	`which wholsale carrier has better support then sixtel?`
`06:15.26`	`__Krush__`	`harryvv ... same issues?`
`06:15.41`	`smirl`	`Texas holdem tournament starts in 15 minutes on planetpoker.com. fre registration, winer gets $15 :-D`
`06:15.41`	`benjk`	`the silly thing is that Canadians who share the same country code have NO WAY to call certain 1-800 numbers even if they wish to pay the transit to the US`
`06:15.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`Like I said, sounds like you have a business plan`
`06:16.09`	`Corydon76-home`	`Again, it's a region code`
`06:16.12`	`benjk`	`I am not in Canada`
`06:16.22`	`Corydon76-home`	`Then why are you complaining?`
`06:16.33`	`benjk`	`ITU standard calls it country code and ITU weighs heavier in my book than US`
`06:16.51`	`Corydon76-home`	`There's a reason why the US has CC 1`
`06:17.09`	`harryvv`	`krush, yea...thay have given me a DID for three months...and its tied to a existing cell phone. No email in there site for me to explain what the problem is just a button for a choice of the problem with did. Then get a email back which looks like a automated reply that my config is bad..which i dont have configured. Its the DID you morons!`
`06:17.11`	`benjk`	`because I got a 1-800 number which the Canadians cannot call`
`06:17.34`	`benjk`	`still ITU is ITU`
`06:17.45`	`Corydon76-home`	`benjk: why is your issue with your telco a problem with NANPA?`
`06:17.55`	`harryvv`	`benjk, looking for a 1800 DIDnumber for canada`
`06:18.05`	`Corydon76-home`	`benjk: get a telco willing to terminate to Canada`
`06:18.10`	`benjk`	`the issue is that you won't know about the 1-800 being limited to certain areas only`
`06:18.24`	`benjk`	`so you sign up and find out people cant call you`
`06:18.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`benjk: sorry, but it comes with the territory. You do your research or you get burned by the marketplace`
`06:18.50`	`benjk`	`and I wasted a good 1-800-DIAL-THIS in the process`
`06:18.56`	`harryvv`	`Who is the female voice that does the prompts for asterisk? what does she charge.`
`06:19.05`	`Corydon76-home`	`harryvv: $100/hr`
`06:19.13`	`Corydon76-home`	`harryvv: or per prompt`
`06:19.17`	`__Krush__`	`What should I look for primarily...close geogragraphic...or price...`
`06:19.21`	`harryvv`	`how much per prompt?`
`06:19.24`	`harryvv`	`per word?`
`06:19.32`	`Corydon76-home`	`There's a set rate...`
`06:19.43`	`benjk`	`the point is that this is so unusual a restriction that you wouldn't even ask if there was such a restriction and apparently providers don't tell you`
`06:19.44`	`Corydon76-home`	`You can buy credits from Digium`
`06:19.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`I don't know the specific rates, it depends upon how much you buy`
`06:20.01`	`benjk`	`nor did I come across this anywhere`
`06:20.06`	`harryvv`	`I see`
`06:20.11`	`Corydon76-home`	`benjk: caveat emptor`
`06:20.28`	`benjk`	`in any event, this is not an ideal situation`
`06:20.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`It was determined by the marketplace`
`06:20.51`	`Corydon76-home`	`We're not socialists`
`06:21.04`	`drray`	`I wonder what the penetration for vonage is in cana-duh`
`06:21.08`	`benjk`	`it would be far more straightforward if NANPA set aside a numbering space for regionally limited toll-free and one for ALL-NANPA toll free`
`06:21.30`	`Strom_C`	`benjk, you're dealing with a system that was put in place in 1947.`
`06:21.37`	`harryvv`	`drray, thay have adverties here heavily.`
`06:21.38`	`Strom_C`	`live with it.`
`06:21.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`Again, it was decided by the marketplace, back when there was only 1 tollfree prefix`
`06:21.41`	`benjk`	`there is plenty of space in the 1-8xx space`
`06:21.53`	`harryvv`	`drray, thay have adverties here in vancouver bc heavily`
`06:21.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`Not all 8xx numbers are tollfree`
`06:22.03`	`harryvv`	`When Telus was on strike.`
`06:22.08`	`benjk`	`I didn't say that`
`06:22.16`	`benjk`	`I said there is plenty of FREE space`
`06:22.16`	`IOscanner`	`Has anyone used the openvox tdm 4 port FXO cards with Asterisk?`
`06:22.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`Actually, there is limited free space`
`06:22.40`	`IOscanner`	`I am having problems with it. I can put a digium 4 port card in the box and it works fine`
`06:22.44`	`IOscanner`	`not it is not benjk`
`06:23.14`	`IOscanner`	`well they are not on the same board or anything`
`06:23.33`	`IOscanner`	`well they don't have the same board or firmware on the chips`
`06:23.38`	`Corydon76-home`	`NANPA is slowly running out of space`
`06:23.49`	`IOscanner`	`I am having problems with the openvox card`
`06:24.07`	`IOscanner`	`it will not hang up call correct that have been made from inside`
`06:24.17`	`Strom_C`	`Corydon76-home, so we'll eventually switch to a 12-digit numbering plan and that'll settle it for a century or so :)`
`06:24.44`	`Corydon76-home`	`Strom_C: unlikely. They're more likely to go to 13 or 14`
`06:25.21`	`Corydon76-home`	`And the only reason why not 13 is that that's a number people find objectionable`
`06:25.43`	`Strom_C`	`why 13/14? 12 seems like a decent idea...add one digit to the area code and one to the office code and you've increased the numbering space...what...a thousandfold?`
`06:26.05`	`Corydon76-home`	`Because the telco has a reason for grouping numbers in 3s or 4s`
`06:26.13`	`Strom_C`	`4/4/4 makes sense :)`
`06:26.28`	`Strom_C`	`4 digit area code, 4 digit office code, 4 digit line number`
`06:26.34`	`BugKham`	`can the System() be assigned to a variable?`
`06:26.35`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yes, but they're more likely add another grouping, instead of expanding the current groupings`
`06:27.15`	`BugKham`	`I meant the output of cmd System()`
`06:27.21`	`Corydon76-home`	`For example, a new number here might be 1-615-615-382-4758`
`06:27.26`	`Strom_C`	`Corydon76-home, all N9X area codes are reserved for expansion to four-digit area codes.`
`06:27.49`	`Strom_C`	`213, for example, becomes 2913`
`06:28.16`	`Corydon76-home`	`Strom_C: that won't cover us for very long, though`
`06:28.26`	`Strom_C`	`why not?`
`06:28.35`	`Corydon76-home`	`Only a ten-fold increase?`
`06:28.41`	`benjk`	`all I am saying is that it would make a lot of sense and benefit all parties if there was a visible differentiation between regional-limited toll-free and all-NANPA toll-free`
`06:28.49`	`Strom_C`	`ten-fold area codes increase and then ten-fold office code increase`
`06:29.13`	`Strom_C`	`so you dramatically slow down the exhaust of both`
`06:29.31`	`Corydon76-home`	`I dunno... the fact that there's a differentiation makes numbers easier to group together`
`06:29.46`	`Corydon76-home`	`4-3-4 would make sense, as does the current 3-3-4`
`06:29.55`	`Corydon76-home`	`4-4-4 is quite regular`
`06:30.09`	`Corydon76-home`	`They might go for 4-3-5`
`06:30.13`	`Strom_C`	`yeah, but so is 3-3-3-4`
`06:30.18`	`groot`	`I'm trying to set up Asterisk with a test configuration and I keep getting a "Cannot find extension context 'internal'" error, even though it is defined in extensions.conf. My sip.conf and extensions.conf are posted at http://pastebin.com/483810 .`
`06:30.21`	`Corydon76-home`	`True enough`
`06:30.29`	`Corydon76-home`	`Maybe 4-3-3-4`
`06:31.25`	`Corydon76-home`	`You really don't want to go past 5 groupings, though`
`06:31.42`	`Strom_C`	`nope`
`06:31.48`	`Strom_C`	`I think 4-4-4 is easy enough to remember`
`06:31.53`	`Corydon76-home`	`or groups consisting of greater than 5 members`
`06:32.39`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yeah, but the nice thing about the non-regularity is that when someone starts in with a number, you can quickly tell where it fits, due to the rhythm`
`06:32.48`	`IOscanner`	`What country?`
`06:33.26`	`Corydon76-home`	`People drop their voices lower after an area code than they do with an exchange`
`06:33.45`	`ComputerWarm`	`question anyone having a problem connecting to iaxtel.com`
`06:34.03`	`Strom_C`	`ComputerWarm, I will not just question them...I will interrogate them`
`06:34.10`	`*** join/#asterisk MrBelvedr (n=tt@ip70-187-237-193.dc.dc.cox.net)`
`06:34.19`	`Strom_C`	`Corydon76-home really? I tend to just read them all the same`
`06:35.18`	`Corydon76-home`	`Strom_C: you're in California, though, right?`
`06:35.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`10-digit dialling is now typical for you`
`06:35.49`	`Corydon76-home`	`Over here in Tennessee, we're still on 7-digit local dialling`
`06:35.53`	`Strom_C`	`are you mad? there's not a single overlay in california`
`06:36.00`	`Corydon76-home`	`lol`
`06:36.04`	`Strom_C`	`it's all 7-digit local`
`06:36.13`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yeah...`
`06:36.19`	`Qwell`	`Strom_C: isn't 310 10 digit now?`
`06:36.20`	`Strom_C`	`424 overlay of 310 is supposed to be starting on Saturday`
`06:36.24`	`Qwell`	`yeah`
`06:36.28`	`Qwell`	`so silly`
`06:36.33`	`Strom_C`	`but thats just the permissive dialing period`
`06:36.39`	`Strom_C`	`mandatory wont be till mid 2006`
`06:36.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`Is there any region in California which is NOT 10-digit dialling?`
`06:36.53`	`Qwell`	`Corydon76-home: I've never had to 10 digit dial`
`06:36.54`	`Strom_C`	`Corydon76-home, everywhere`
`06:36.58`	`Strom_C`	`all 7-digit within NPA`
`06:37.02`	`drray`	`san francico is 7 digit`
`06:37.02`	`Qwell`	`11 out`
`06:37.14`	`*** join/#asterisk jeffgus (n=jeffgus@greengables.zimage.com)`
`06:37.17`	`drray`	`it'll work both ways`
`06:37.49`	`Strom_C`	`7 or 11, but not 10`
`06:37.50`	`Corydon76-home`	`drray: transitional, I bet`
`06:38.06`	`Strom_C`	`Corydon76-home, no...no overlays in california as of today`
`06:38.07`	`Qwell`	`310-424 is supposed to be 10 though, isn't it? That'll suck.`
`06:38.14`	`Strom_C`	`no, 310/424 is 11`
`06:38.18`	`Qwell`	`oh?`
`06:38.20`	`Strom_C`	`1+`
`06:38.21`	`Strom_C`	`yes`
`06:38.35`	`Qwell`	`I forget what I read...maybe it was on the news or something.`
`06:38.42`	`Qwell`	`10 digit dialing is pointless`
`06:38.49`	`Strom_C`	`I'm actually trying to decide whether to just force 11 digit dialing on this PBX I'm installing`
`06:39.00`	`Corydon76-home`	`10 digit dialling is how it is in other regions... like Maryland...`
`06:39.01`	`Qwell`	`(unless you're on a cellphone, then 10 is cool...if it's always 10)`
`06:39.25`	`Corydon76-home`	`I can dial 7, 10, or 11 on my cell just fine`
`06:39.34`	`Corydon76-home`	`The cell tower does the right thing`
`06:39.48`	`Qwell`	`yeah, most cellphones are that way.`
`06:39.51`	`benjk`	`its not the cell tower`
`06:39.55`	`benjk`	`its the MSC`
`06:40.03`	`Corydon76-home`	`Well, the node`
`06:40.11`	`benjk`	`no the exchange`
`06:40.15`	`BugKham`	`Qwell: i got the escape thing solved`
`06:40.18`	`Corydon76-home`	`We have euphemisms here`
`06:40.20`	`benjk`	`MSC = Mobile Switching Centre`
`06:40.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`benjk: yeah, we call that the node, here`
`06:40.41`	`benjk`	`the next SS7 node would be the BTS`
`06:40.54`	`benjk`	`ok`
`06:41.02`	`BugKham`	`Qwell: but now trying to assign the output from System() to a variable`
`06:41.12`	`BugKham`	`Qwell: any idea?`
`06:41.26`	`Corydon76-home`	`although if we say cell tower, it's pretty much understood it's the network, not the individual tower`
`06:41.32`	`Qwell`	`BugKham: nope, I don't think you can`
`06:41.56`	`Corydon76-home`	`No, you can't`
`06:42.18`	`*** join/#asterisk burtonez (i=mimx@w201.ljudmila.org)`
`06:43.00`	`BugKham`	`Qwell: probably using AGI`
`06:43.14`	`Qwell`	`yeah, AGI would work`
`06:43.16`	`Corydon76-home`	`I don't think we even assign the return value of the underlying system call to anything`
`06:43.56`	`BugKham`	`Corydon76-home: even to see the status of the system call?`
`06:44.14`	`Corydon76-home`	`BugKham: Don't think so, no.`
`06:46.09`	`benjk`	`Corydon: actually NANPA has got what I suggested`
`06:46.22`	`benjk`	`but they didn't implement it across the board`
`06:46.41`	`benjk`	`and our number starts with 866 which is the one not included in the scheme`
`06:46.43`	`benjk`	`:(`
`06:47.02`	`benjk`	`883 would the the non-toll-free code for 866`
`06:47.12`	`benjk`	`if it was implemented`
`06:47.21`	`benjk`	`damn`
`06:47.44`	`drray`	`I know I won't be able to sleep tonight`
`06:50.59`	`Qwell`	`benjk: wait, what? non-toll-free number for a toll-free number?`
`06:51.07`	`benjk`	`yes`
`06:51.21`	`benjk`	`880 is for 800`
`06:51.32`	`benjk`	`881 for 888, 882 for 877`
`06:51.44`	`benjk`	`but 883 for 866 hasn't been implemented`
`06:52.08`	`wasim`	`eh?`
`06:52.19`	`Strom_C`	`when the hell did this come up?`
`06:52.25`	`Strom_C`	`point me at the NANPA document`
`06:52.38`	`benjk`	`so if your toll free number is 1-800-555-12345, then you can call that number via 1-880-555-1234`
`06:52.45`	`Qwell`	`'The number or code you've dialed is incorrect."`
`06:52.53`	`Strom_C`	`oh ok`
`06:52.57`	`benjk`	`from Canada`
`06:53.03`	`Qwell`	`error 6-90-5-7`
`06:53.18`	`benjk`	`and other NANPA areas where you do not have access to the original 1-800 number`
`06:53.22`	`benjk`	`and overseas too`
`06:53.30`	`Strom_C`	`oh really?`
`06:53.31`	`file[laptop]`	`Qwell: !!!`
`06:53.32`	`Strom_C`	`neat`
`06:53.32`	`benjk`	`yes`
`06:53.39`	`Qwell`	`file[laptop]: !!!?`
`06:53.55`	`benjk`	`but you get of course charged for a regular call to the US on the 1-880 number`
`06:54.13`	`Strom_C`	`doesnt work from within the US`
`06:54.17`	`Strom_C`	`at least not from this telephone`
`06:54.29`	`Qwell`	`not from my cell or nufone either`
`06:54.43`	`benjk`	`as I understand it, this is meant for those areas where the 1-800 number would not be reachable otherwise`
`06:55.00`	`benjk`	`so if you are in Canada, it should work`
`06:55.12`	`Strom_C`	`I'll have to try that`
`06:55.30`	`Qwell`	`asking a Canadian friend right now. ;]`
`06:55.33`	`benjk`	`unfortunately for me, our number is in the 1-866 range`
`06:55.41`	`benjk`	`and 866 is not included in this scheme`
`06:55.48`	`benjk`	`only 800, 888 and 877`
`06:55.49`	`Strom_C`	`i'm also asking a canadian friend`
`06:55.51`	`file[laptop]`	`nah, I'm too lazy to get out of bed and try`
`06:55.51`	`smirl`	`anyone know some royalty free mp3's for music on hold, that include Please hold announcements?`
`06:55.53`	`konfuzed`	`is a 2mb .wav greeting message a reasonable file size?`
`06:55.56`	`Qwell`	`oh, duh`
`06:56.00`	`Qwell`	`file is Canadian!`
`06:56.14`	`file[laptop]`	`right now I'm not, I'm a lazy Canadian in bed`
`06:56.17`	`Qwell`	`umm`
`06:56.17`	`file[laptop]`	`:P`
`06:56.22`	`Qwell`	`a lazy canadian...with a cellphone!`
`06:56.22`	`benjk`	`:)`
`06:56.29`	`file[laptop]`	`cellphone is on my desk`
`06:56.34`	`file[laptop]`	`and I'm in my cozy bed`
`06:56.41`	`Qwell`	`aww`
`06:56.41`	`benjk`	`http://www.lincmad.com/nongeographic.html`
`06:56.52`	`Qwell`	`and file[laptop] can`
`06:56.53`	`file[laptop]`	`slip me some cash and we can talk Qwell`
`06:56.53`	`file[laptop]`	`:P`
`06:56.55`	`Qwell`	`t do anything about it!`
`06:57.01`	`konfuzed`	`is a 2mb .wav greeting message a reasonable file size?`
`06:57.07`	`Qwell`	`konfuzed: no`
`06:57.13`	`Qwell`	`not unless it's a few minutes long`
`06:57.36`	`konfuzed`	`18 seconds`
`06:57.37`	`benjk`	`damn, if only I had known this before getting this 866 number`
`06:58.00`	`benjk`	`we would have chosen a 800, 888 or 877 number instead`
`06:58.05`	`Strom_C`	`konfuzed, is this for a telephone?`
`06:58.16`	`konfuzed`	`I could image a 2 minute message being 12mb`
`06:58.34`	`konfuzed`	`for a simple pbx opening message`
`06:58.35`	`wasim`	`its 64 kbps`
`06:58.35`	`Qwell`	`konfuzed: nah, not if it's made right`
`06:58.50`	`Strom_C`	`it should be 8khz 16-bit`
`06:58.51`	`Qwell`	`8khz, 64k`
`06:59.03`	`wasim`	`8 bit`
`06:59.05`	`Qwell`	`16 bit = 64k? heh`
`06:59.24`	`Strom_C`	`you want the file to be 16 bit so that it can be properly companded in ulaw`
`06:59.30`	`Strom_C`	`otherwise it sounds like shit if it's 8-bit linear`
`06:59.31`	`konfuzed`	`16 bit 44.1 hz`
`06:59.40`	`Strom_C`	`konfuzed, jesus christ man, downsample`
`07:00.00`	`konfuzed`	`i dont know anything about audio`
`07:00.05`	`benjk`	`sox is your friend`
`07:00.12`	`Strom_C`	`downsample to 8khz 16-bit`
`07:00.30`	`konfuzed`	`you say 16 bit or the`
`07:00.33`	`konfuzed`	`oh k`
`07:00.38`	`konfuzed`	`hm`
`07:00.42`	`Qwell`	`Just sent another email to the Adelphia CEO and senior management...this should be fun`
`07:00.44`	`konfuzed`	`these audio people`
`07:01.12`	`konfuzed`	`she is a voice poet so of course records at 44.1 hz or whatever that number is`
`07:01.16`	`smirl`	`I HATE adephia`
`07:01.19`	`Strom_C`	`44.1 khz`
`07:01.24`	`smirl`	`thank god Time warner is takign them over here shortly.`
`07:01.35`	`Qwell`	`smirl: and Comcast, in some parts of CA`
`07:01.46`	`Strom_C`	`it's comcastic!`
`07:02.09`	`benjk`	`well, soon get High Definition Stereo Sourround Sound Telephones, then you'll need 16bit/44Hz ;)`
`07:02.17`	`Qwell`	`smirl: If you hate Adelphia, you'd love the email(s) I sent them`
`07:02.17`	`*** join/#asterisk toddf (n=toddf@70.246.190.10)`
`07:02.21`	`smirl`	`I'm forced to use adelphia at home...`
`07:02.43`	`benjk`	`you are abusing here at home?`
`07:02.43`	`Strom_C`	`dammit, I have this giant pile of dust, screws, bits of wire, and so on in the middle of the floor and I have no idea where the hell they keep the dustpan`
`07:02.44`	`konfuzed`	`ok so whats the actual impact of having the file at 44.1 vs 8 HZ`
`07:02.45`	`benjk`	`her`
`07:02.58`	`Strom_C`	`konfuzed, the telephone network is only 8khz`
`07:03.02`	`konfuzed`	`hm the phone sets cant play it back`
`07:03.03`	`Qwell`	`smirl: The first time, I got them to reimburse me for cellphone minutes used, reporting a problem to their abuse dept. Round and round we went, until it ended up costing me $60`
`07:03.22`	`konfuzed`	`so its just wasted space then`
`07:03.26`	`Strom_C`	`so there's absolutely no benefit to having a higher sample rate if you're using it for a telephone application`
`07:03.27`	`Qwell`	`This time, I made a request that the CEO personally call me, to discuss the new issues`
`07:03.34`	`konfuzed`	`does it actually sound any differently?`
`07:03.43`	`Strom_C`	`if you're listening to it on a CD player or something, you'll notice a HUGE difference`
`07:03.46`	`Qwell`	`I have a good feeling about him actually calling too. It was a VERY strongly worded letter.`
`07:03.53`	`Strom_C`	`the 44.1khz audio sounds lifelike`
`07:03.57`	`smirl`	`i pay them $150 per month for TV and internet, and they won't even give me more than 56k upload speed, or even a 2nd DHCP Address without paying ANOTHER 150 per month...`
`07:04.12`	`konfuzed`	`yes the emssage sounds quite life like`
`07:04.12`	`Strom_C`	`8khz audio eliminates all frequencies above 4000hz`
`07:04.14`	`benjk`	`konfuzed: its like recording a digital master onto an Edison phongraph wax roll`
`07:04.16`	`konfuzed`	`id lke to preserve that`
`07:04.23`	`Strom_C`	`konfuzed, make a copy`
`07:04.27`	`Strom_C`	`and downsample that`
`07:04.30`	`konfuzed`	`haha ok`
`07:04.38`	`Strom_C`	`keep the original on a CD or something for backup`
`07:04.42`	`konfuzed`	`I'll tell her to send me one at 8Hz`
`07:04.49`	`Strom_C`	`no no`
`07:04.53`	`Strom_C`	`8 KILOHERTZ`
`07:04.54`	`Strom_C`	`KHZ`
`07:05.00`	`Strom_C`	`8hz will be inaudible`
`07:05.00`	`smirl`	`lol`
`07:05.05`	`konfuzed`	`ah`
`07:05.07`	`benjk`	`konfuzed you can use sox`
`07:05.08`	`smirl`	`i'mk gonna make an 8hz wav file to hear it`
`07:05.33`	`benjk`	`man sox will tell you what to do`
`07:05.47`	`konfuzed`	`actually the body shold like the 8hz sound`
`07:05.59`	`konfuzed`	`7.83 hz if you can do it`
`07:06.31`	`konfuzed`	`one small thing i know about sound is that 7.83hz is teh shumanns resonance frequency`
`07:06.33`	`benjk`	`sampling rate not sound`
`07:06.58`	`benjk`	`8Hz sampling rate would be taking 1 measurement every 0.125 seconds`
`07:07.03`	`konfuzed`	`well the sample rate is the same as the output rate isnt it`
`07:07.04`	`benjk`	`extremely low res`
`07:07.25`	`smirl`	`if i wanted to save some cpu by using native recordings... does asterisk support multiple formats, like... we use g729 for extensions accessing voicemail, but use ulaw for calls from the pstn to the autoattendant...`
`07:07.32`	`benjk`	`its like a digital camera that has only got 50 pixels`
`07:07.39`	`benjk`	`instead of 5 Megapixels`
`07:08.25`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yes, Asterisk will automatically select the most efficient format available`
`07:08.57`	`smirl`	`sweet Corydon-w`
`07:09.06`	`Strom_C`	`I think anything other than ulaw is total garbage`
`07:09.08`	`Strom_C`	`but that's just me`
`07:09.24`	`benjk`	`well, ulaw and alaw`
`07:09.45`	`*** join/#asterisk goh (n=goh@60.49.6.190)`
`07:09.51`	`benjk`	`but ADPCM is almost indistinguishable from that`
`07:09.55`	`benjk`	`half rate`
`07:10.16`	`benjk`	`basically half the samples of ulaw/alaw`
`07:10.19`	`smirl`	`ulaw, faxes should work ok thru ulaw usually right?`
`07:10.52`	`benjk`	`they should, but if you get jitter and latency issues it can still cause problems`
`07:10.54`	`goh`	`hi`
`07:11.01`	`smirl`	`fax detection works, and it routes it to the fax extension, but the sending fax just says, error during sending.`
`07:11.25`	`benjk`	`that could be due to jitter, dropped packets or latency`
`07:11.37`	`smirl`	`they negotiate ok... and it connects, but when it stars to send the sate, it just comes back with an error`
`07:12.06`	`benjk`	`with VoIP, various packets get dropped because realtime is more important that a complete signal`
`07:12.12`	`smirl`	`i've read that faxing at 9600 insteat of 14.4 yeilds better results`
`07:12.18`	`benjk`	`you won't usually hear the difference`
`07:12.23`	`smirl`	`is there any way to set the buad limit in asterisk`
`07:12.33`	`smirl`	`down to 9600`
`07:12.53`	`benjk`	`but if packets get dropped for a fax transmission that's usually problematic`
`07:13.16`	`benjk`	`at least fax is more sensitive to that than the human ear`
`07:13.33`	`smirl`	`is there any way to set a max baud rate?`
`07:14.49`	`smirl`	`on the asterisk internal fax*`
`07:18.31`	`konfuzed`	`smirl: try a search on voip-info.org`
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`07:21.34`	`konfuzed`	`is it alright to have this greeting message be just wav or is that just not done. what are other essential sound file formats should the message be copied to`
`07:21.41`	`konfuzed`	`cvonverted to`
`07:21.51`	`Qwell`	`ulaw is good`
`07:22.22`	`konfuzed`	`does sox do that aswell`
`07:22.55`	`konfuzed`	`er I can use sox to convert to different formats?`
`07:23.02`	`benjk`	`yes`
`07:23.07`	`konfuzed`	`never used it before`
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`07:23.15`	`benjk`	`sox does pretty much everything`
`07:23.21`	`konfuzed`	`content is my plague`
`07:23.28`	`benjk`	`even makes cappuccino for ya`
`07:23.32`	`konfuzed`	`8^(`
`07:23.38`	`konfuzed`	`kewl`
`07:23.44`	`benjk`	`;)`
`07:23.51`	`konfuzed`	`I just discovered mediainlinux though`
`07:23.57`	`kuku5`	`Anyone here is hp certified?`
`07:24.34`	`konfuzed`	`aiming to install that for a Pro Film - Camera Guy`
`07:24.36`	`smirl`	`Your search - asterisk fax baud - did not match any documents.`
`07:25.10`	`konfuzed`	`if it does everything it must have a gui too`
`07:25.52`	`konfuzed`	`ok before I load it up to the asterisk server I'll open it up in sox and save it a few different ways`
`07:25.53`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`07:25.56`	`benjk`	`maybe somebody has written a GUI wrapper for it`
`07:26.26`	`konfuzed`	`if not I know the guy to do it`
`07:26.42`	`konfuzed`	`he just needs to be focused or motivated im not sure which`
`07:26.50`	`konfuzed`	`hes a programer`
`07:26.52`	`konfuzed`	`im not`
`07:27.28`	`benjk`	`I could write a GUI wrapper for sox under GNUstep`
`07:27.48`	`konfuzed`	`ive noticed that programmers tend to have mood swings around motivated and focussed though`
`07:27.49`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`07:28.03`	`benjk`	`but I have got enough other things to do`
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`07:28.17`	`konfuzed`	`see what I mean`
`07:28.18`	`jorge_bla`	`hi`
`07:28.19`	`konfuzed`	`;^)`
`07:28.23`	`jorge_bla`	`:-(`
`07:28.42`	`jorge_bla`	`my asterisk is crashing and i dont know why . !!!!`
`07:29.07`	`benjk`	`time to check the log files jorge`
`07:29.28`	`jorge_bla`	`benjk, which log files, by default where asterisk logs ?`
`07:31.14`	`loud`	`check logger.conf`
`07:32.00`	`jorge_bla`	`there is only dateformat and #include "logger-destar.incl"`
`07:33.52`	`jorge_bla`	`and in logger-destar.incl is`
`07:34.04`	`jorge_bla`	`console=error,warning`
`07:34.11`	`jorge_bla`	`messages=error,warning,notice,verbose`
`07:34.46`	`jorge_bla`	`i checked messages but ther is nothing .. :-*`
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`07:37.36`	`wasim`	`eww ... web front ends`
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`07:46.35`	`VoIPMasta`	`One quick question...`
`07:47.06`	`VoIPMasta`	`if I start a call using the Dial application from within an AGI script will it be recorded in the CDR?`
`07:48.03`	`jorge_bla`	`benjk, no strange info in log files :-(`
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`07:51.26`	`benjk`	`run asterisk with -vvvc and see what it says before it crashes`
`07:51.51`	`jorge_bla`	`ok`
`07:51.53`	`jorge_bla`	`thanks`
`07:51.55`	`jorge_bla`	`good idea`
`07:52.24`	`VoIPMasta`	`anyone?`
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`08:19.49`	`Qwell`	`VoIPMasta: should be`
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`08:28.34`	`wipeout_`	`hi there`
`08:28.43`	`Qwell`	`hi`
`08:28.50`	`wipeout_`	`anyone here use voicepulse?`
`08:30.08`	`wipeout_`	`i'm trying to get inbound calling up and running, but asterisk keeps rejecting the inbound calls from voicepulse`
`08:30.31`	`Qwell`	`wipeout_: 404?`
`08:30.58`	`benjk`	`wipeout, I do`
`08:31.15`	`benjk`	`well VP Connect`
`08:31.26`	`wipeout_`	`Dec 30 00:23:50 NOTICE[3394]: chan_iax2.c:6775 socket_read: Rejected connect attempt from 66.234.228.170, who was trying to reach`
`08:31.54`	`wipeout_`	`and then it's my phone number with an @ after it and nothing else`
`08:32.07`	`wipeout_`	`i'm properly registered`
`08:32.17`	`benjk`	`I am on 166 and 160`
`08:32.41`	`wipeout_`	`are you using SIP or IAX2?`
`08:32.48`	`benjk`	`is this vpconnect-t03 ?`
`08:32.51`	`benjk`	`IAX2`
`08:33.04`	`wipeout_`	`gwiax-in-01.voicepulse.com`
`08:34.48`	`benjk`	`I have been with VPC for a long time`
`08:34.55`	`benjk`	`still using 66.234.228.132`
`08:35.02`	`benjk`	`which is gw5`
`08:35.14`	`benjk`	`for IAX registration`
`08:35.46`	`wipeout_`	`hm`
`08:35.53`	`wipeout_`	`ok let me try that.`
`08:36.21`	`wipeout_`	`can't register there`
`08:36.36`	`benjk`	`I see`
`08:37.01`	`benjk`	`what do you get when you do iax2 debug`
`08:37.06`	`benjk`	`and call your DID`
`08:37.17`	`benjk`	`does it try to connect to you?`
`08:37.52`	`wipeout_`	`yeah`
`08:37.54`	`benjk`	`because the NOTICE message you posted makes it sound like it was your server rejecting them`
`08:38.09`	`wipeout_`	`no, it's asterisk doing it`
`08:38.29`	`benjk`	`yes, your asterisk server rejecting their incoming connection attempt`
`08:38.34`	`wipeout_`	`right`
`08:38.50`	`wipeout_`	`sorry, making distinction between the server machine, and the asterisk process`
`08:38.51`	`wipeout_`	`my bad`
`08:38.57`	`benjk`	`the iax2 debug output should give you some clue as to why it is doing that`
`08:38.57`	`wipeout_`	`my asterisk process is refusing them`
`08:39.13`	`wipeout_`	`hm.`
`08:39.19`	`wipeout_`	`"No authority found"`
`08:39.24`	`benjk`	`Ah ok`
`08:39.41`	`benjk`	`that could mean a couple of things`
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`08:39.54`	`wipeout_`	`think i might have figured it out`
`08:39.56`	`benjk`	`username, password and context mismatches`
`08:40.39`	`wipeout_`	`yeah, incoming username`
`08:40.45`	`wipeout_`	`needs to be voicepulse-in-01`
`08:41.29`	`wipeout_`	`er`
`08:41.30`	`wipeout_`	`hm`
`08:41.42`	`benjk`	`not for me`
`08:41.54`	`wipeout_`	`red herring i think`
`08:42.12`	`benjk`	`but as I said, our account is very old, so it may not be the same as what it is now for new accounts`
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`08:43.18`	`magic_1`	`lo all`
`08:43.56`	`wipeout_`	`hi`
`08:44.06`	`magic_1`	`merry christmass(though i be saying it abit late LOL-oh yes and a happy new year-just incase`
`08:44.35`	`magic_1`	`so wipeout_how you keeping`
`08:45.03`	`benjk`	`he doesn't keep, he wipes out`
`08:45.34`	`wipeout_`	`pretty much`
`08:45.38`	`magic_1`	`hehehe`
`08:45.43`	`wipeout_`	`trying to get inbound calling up and running again with voicepulse`
`08:46.52`	`benjk`	`so it wasn't the username?`
`08:47.02`	`benjk`	`how about context?`
`08:47.18`	`magic_1`	`wipeout_ would you have any advice on doing video conferencing with asterisk`
`08:47.34`	`benjk`	`do you send it to the right context and if so, do you have an extension in there that matches your number`
`08:47.54`	`benjk`	`your DID`
`08:48.25`	`wipeout_`	`i thought it was`
`08:48.36`	`wipeout_`	`lemme grab an old config`
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`08:52.29`	`magic_1`	`benjk sorry to bother but would u have any advice on doing video conferencing with asterisk`
`08:52.56`	`benjk`	`no I don't, haven't done video conferencing`
`08:53.20`	`magic_1`	`thanx though`
`08:54.00`	`benjk`	`I don't think Asterisk does this yet`
`08:54.10`	`benjk`	`but I may be wrong`
`08:54.41`	`magic_1`	`i think i saw some of the guys were using vlc to do it thoug`
`08:55.13`	`benjk`	`well, as I said, I don't really know`
`08:55.43`	`benjk`	`all I know is that video conferencing wouldn't be following the same method audio conferencing does`
`08:56.01`	`magic_1`	`well, thanx.really apreciatte it though`
`08:56.03`	`benjk`	`so there would have to be additional code in asterisk to make this happen`
`08:56.30`	`benjk`	`and I haven't seen any module with a name that would suggest video conferencing`
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`08:56.41`	`benjk`	`there is app_conference and that's for audio`
`08:56.53`	`benjk`	`and there is meetme which is also for audio but zaptel based`
`08:57.19`	`benjk`	`with audio the conference server actually mixes the audio signals and sends them back`
`08:57.28`	`benjk`	`with video you can't do that`
`08:57.53`	`benjk`	`you'd be getting an overlay of everybody's video`
`08:58.31`	`magic_1`	`yeah i saw that,yeah,but at the moment audio is not the problemjust the vidoe,the thing is there is so much that u can do with audio,just the video is a machine is a probablem`
`08:58.33`	`benjk`	`instead the conference server will need to send each participant's video stream to each other participant`
`08:58.51`	`wipeout_`	`ok i think i got it working`
`08:59.12`	`benjk`	`what was the problem?`
`08:59.32`	`magic_1`	`well at the mo i would like to at least get two ppl to do the whole video thing`
`08:59.36`	`wipeout_`	`well, i found an old conf from when i had this set up before`
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`08:59.48`	`benjk`	`ok`
`08:59.49`	`wipeout_`	`it looks like i was trying to ask voicepulse for a password when i shouldn't have`
`09:00.10`	`nswint`	`can anyone dial me sip:nswint@shiksa.dyndns.org`
`09:00.11`	`benjk`	`Ah, yes, they abandoned that sometime last year or so`
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`09:01.28`	`benjk`	`magic_1: but that's not video conferencing`
`09:01.53`	`benjk`	`that's just video telephony`
`09:03.01`	`benjk`	`maybe you need some extras in chan_sip for that to handle the two additional RTP streams, but that's about it`
`09:03.36`	`benjk`	`video conferencing is far more complex because you need to become what's called a reflector`
`09:03.55`	`benjk`	`its a one-to-many thing`
`09:03.58`	`nswint`	`can anyone dial me @ sip:nswint@shiksa.dyndns.org`
`09:04.58`	`nswint`	`thinking that dyndns.org might not process sip or iax in the dns`
`09:08.19`	`nswint`	`nevermind.. connected to my neighbors wifi :-)`
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`09:09.54`	`cricalixwood`	`moring all`
`09:09.58`	`nswint`	`allo`
`09:09.59`	`cricalixwood`	`morning`
`09:10.05`	`cricalixwood`	`allo`
`09:10.15`	`cricalixwood`	`just browsing, see what's happening today`
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`09:14.20`	`cricalixwood`	`Does anyone know how to fix echo problems on an X100P clone here in the UK? I think the main cause is the impedance mismatch (US=600, UK=about 1050, plus some complex bits)?`
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`09:22.11`	`nswint`	`should wifi conections be able to keep up with the gsm codec`
`09:22.21`	`infinity1`	`nswint: yes`
`09:25.38`	`nswint`	`infinity1: I was leaching off my neighbors wifi testing incoming connections using wif,,, doing a speedtest now.. but there was serious lag.. 627 ms`
`09:26.50`	`cricalixwood`	`nswint: I use wifi at home (11MBPS), works fine. I've had 3 simultaneous conversations going, all on wireless without problems. All g711 tho.`
`09:30.51`	`nswint`	`yeah works fine on my wifi.. but wanted to use my ipaq remotely.. don't think that some hotspots are fast enough`
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`09:33.05`	`cricalixwood`	`ahhh -- understood`
`09:33.12`	`nswint`	`cricalixwood: did a speedtest and I have a pretty fast connection and I'm a few feet from the router and I get 32KBps or 316 kbps`
`09:33.39`	`nswint`	`codec throughput is measured in kbps or KBps`
`09:33.51`	`cricalixwood`	`what did u use for the speed test - I'll try here and see what I get`
`09:34.10`	`nswint`	`http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed`
`09:34.13`	`nswint`	`600k test`
`09:35.47`	`cricalixwood`	`OK, this may be just me completely misunderstanding (quite normal!). I'm sitting hear with my laptop, over the 11 MBPS link into my router. I get unstable/too fast a result (2.815s) please choose a larger file`
`09:36.26`	`nswint`	`yeah.. that's when your connection has no latency I've discovered.. connecting at max speed`
`09:36.32`	`nswint`	`they need to tweak it`
`09:36.41`	`nswint`	`you may need to use a regular test for your laptop`
`09:37.03`	`cricalixwood`	`SO why are you seeing so much slower results? Any ideas?`
`09:37.35`	`nswint`	`not sure.. may just be an ipaq flaw.. never thought to run a speed test before`
`09:38.34`	`cricalixwood`	`I regularly get close to 2Mbps download speed, 200KB/sec for large down loads`
`09:40.18`	`cricalixwood`	`But, I do know of a previous colleague who used to use his Ipaq in Dublin airport routinely for VOIP calls...worked well for him.`
`09:40.33`	`nswint`	`I'm trying another alot of site.. alot don't work with window ce internet explorer`
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`09:40.45`	`cricalixwood`	`o`
`09:40.49`	`cricalixwood`	`ok`
`09:42.13`	`nswint`	`oh well I'll find one.. maybe my neighbors have the small tiered dsl`
`09:44.26`	`cricalixwood`	`I don't know where u are, but here I would try a motorway services area, or somewhere like that`
`09:44.57`	`nswint`	`if wifi gets crappy I can try bluetooth thru my cell provider`
`09:45.37`	`cricalixwood`	`Out of my depth now - I know little about bluetooth etc`
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`09:46.35`	`nswint`	`most bluetooth cellphones include a dialup networking profile.. pretty much like using dialup networking before people had broadband`
`09:46.50`	`nswint`	`uses the cell network as an internet gateway`
`09:46.58`	`cricalixwood`	`ok, got that`
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`09:47.03`	`nswint`	`the phone acts as a modem`
`09:47.47`	`cricalixwood`	`yeah, last time I did something like that was about 4 years ago - could not get better than 9600bps then`
`09:48.23`	`nswint`	`I did at my parents for christmas. they need to rewire the phone lines.. couldn't get over 26k`
`09:48.31`	`nswint`	`and the connection kept dropping`
`09:49.09`	`cricalixwood`	`I was at in-laws - could not get a phone signal at all!`
`09:51.00`	`nswint`	`yeah I'm on tmobile.. and at my parents Cingular and Verizon rule and there aren't any roaming agreements with Cingular and Tmobile so I was SOL`
`09:52.19`	`nswint`	`thanks for the help`
`09:52.22`	`nswint`	`bedtime`
`09:52.57`	`cricalixwood`	`ok, sleep tight...I'm up and rolling, scanning job ads`
`09:53.26`	`nswint`	`Good luck!!!!`
`09:53.41`	`cricalixwood`	`yeah need it...been almost 3 months now`
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`09:55.41`	`cricalixwood`	`Does anyone know how to fix echo problems on an X100P clone here in the UK? I think the main cause is the impedance mismatch (US=600, UK=about 1050, plus some complex bits)? (I asked earlier, but there was no one around, I think)`
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`10:15.58`	`fulgas`	`io`
`10:16.47`	`smirl`	`anyone care to make a guess at how many addon applications are available for asterisk ?`
`10:16.53`	`smirl`	`100+?`
`10:16.56`	`smirl`	`200+?`
`10:17.15`	`iDunno`	`as many as people need.`
`10:17.26`	`smirl`	`lol`
`10:17.36`	`iDunno`	`</vagueUselessAnswer> :)`
`10:17.40`	`smirl`	`'already existing'`
`10:17.55`	`smirl`	`just an guess for some marketing material`
`10:18.04`	`iDunno`	`why put a number to it?`
`10:18.15`	`iDunno`	`if it's marketing material you should be vague!`
`10:18.25`	`smirl`	`ok... 'endless applications'`
`10:18.26`	`iDunno`	`if it's technical documentation you need better figures ;)`
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`10:24.39`	`backblue`	`hi, if i call from one asterisk with user "foo" to another sip asterisk on the net, and the user "foo" exists in the receiver asterisk, it asks for password, and font makes the call, why?`
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`10:26.00`	`backblue`	`s/font/dont`
`10:34.50`	`saitech`	`can anyone help me, with a problem lige this. Im getting some errors in the debug logger. It keeps spamming "chan_sip.c: failed to grab lock... trying again" its not contant, but it seems like it loops for some time now or then. When it spams me with these errors, it seems like asterisk is hanging a bit, and i cant getting any calls through.`
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`10:55.29`	`saitech`	`how can i get a call limit pr agent(no call waiting) in a queue?`
`10:57.35`	`RoyK`	`saitech: by using the depricated incoming/outgoinglimit`
`10:57.39`	`RoyK`	`dunno if it works, though`
`10:57.59`	`saitech`	`its not possible with groupcount?`
`10:58.17`	`RoyK`	`doubt it`
`10:58.23`	`saitech`	`okay then`
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`10:58.37`	`RoyK`	`I'll take a look in the source`
`10:58.38`	`RoyK`	`just a sec`
`10:58.41`	`AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI`	`selam`
`10:59.16`	`AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI`	`are you speak turk0131sh?`
`11:00.16`	`RoyK`	`nei, men jeg snakker norsk. hjelper det_`
`11:00.16`	`RoyK`	`?`
`11:00.19`	`RoyK`	`:)`
`11:00.30`	`AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI`	`anlamad0131m moruk`
`11:03.53`	`RoyK`	`saitech: nope. can't find anything`
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`11:15.47`	`RoyK`	`~seen wasim`
`11:15.51`	`jbot`	`wasim is currently on #asterisk`
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`11:17.17`	`jbot`	`drray: i haven't seen 'druekn'`
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`11:17.21`	`RoyK`	`~lart drray`
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`11:25.26`	`jbot`	`iDunno: i haven't seen 'thelight'`
`11:26.45`	`saitech`	`can anyone help me, with a problem lige this. Im getting some errors in the debug logger. It keeps spamming "chan_sip.c: failed to grab lock... trying again" its not contant, but it seems like it loops for some time now or then. When it spams me with these errors, it seems like asterisk is hanging a bit, and i cant getting any calls through.`
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`11:31.15`	`saftsack`	`has anyone herre a budge tel 101?`
`11:31.47`	`iDunno`	`4 of 'em. they're cheap crap.`
`11:31.56`	`iDunno`	`but functional.`
`11:32.04`	`iDunno`	`mostly.`
`11:33.56`	`saftsack`	`ok is the quality good?`
`11:34.06`	`saftsack`	`because the quality of mine is very bad :(`
`11:35.01`	`iDunno`	`fairly tinny, not brilliant.`
`11:35.17`	`iDunno`	`I assume that you're using (u\|a)law.`
`11:35.20`	`saftsack`	`but like a normal telephone?`
`11:35.24`	`saftsack`	`im using alaw`
`11:35.40`	`iDunno`	`depends on the normal telephone ;)`
`11:35.40`	`saftsack`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:35.44`	`drray`	`I have a budgetone 101`
`11:35.51`	`drray`	`it's a good test phone`
`11:35.57`	`saftsack`	`normal i have my siemes isdn telephone`
`11:36.07`	`saftsack`	`and the quality of the budgettel is very very bad :(`
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`11:36.37`	`drray`	`it's the cheapest IP phone out there, I don't know what people actually expect`
`11:36.37`	`saftsack`	`do you configured some special options in the telephone settings?`
`11:36.42`	`iDunno`	`hrm, not had it very very bad, it's been alright in my experience.`
`11:37.07`	`iDunno`	`drray: the moon. on a stick. now. dammit!`
`11:37.15`	`iDunno`	`drray: free high quality phones!`
`11:37.29`	`saftsack`	`it costs 70euro here in europe`
`11:37.41`	`iDunno`	`cost ~ 30GBP each when we got ours.`
`11:37.43`	`saftsack`	`i think i can expect something because a good analog telephone is much cheaper`
`11:37.55`	`saftsack`	`iDunno, youre living in america ;)`
`11:37.55`	`iDunno`	`(they were, like, totally on sale)`
`11:38.04`	`drray`	`I think ours was $50 US`
`11:38.08`	`saftsack`	`no`
`11:38.08`	`saftsack`	`uk`
`11:38.11`	`iDunno`	`saftsack: erm, no, I definately am not in america ;)`
`11:38.13`	`iDunno`	`that's better ;)`
`11:38.15`	`drray`	`I'd not buy another oen..`
`11:38.17`	`saftsack`	`;)`
`11:38.18`	`drray`	`er, one`
`11:38.25`	`drray`	`but it's a good phone for playing with asterisk`
`11:38.42`	`saftsack`	`iDunno, do you telephone over isdn with the telephone or over sip?`
`11:38.45`	`iDunno`	`saftsack: so why not get some cards for the asterisk server and use analogue phones?`
`11:38.55`	`drray`	`or an Iaxy`
`11:39.02`	`drray`	`or an ata of some kind`
`11:39.03`	`iDunno`	`budgetone -> asterisk -> ISDN PSTN`
`11:39.12`	`saftsack`	`iDunno, same config here`
`11:39.19`	`saftsack`	`because i want to test everything`
`11:39.24`	`saftsack`	`i have a wildcard already`
`11:39.30`	`saftsack`	`and a isdn nt card too`
`11:40.10`	`iDunno`	`(and there's a reason that IP phones are more expensive than good analogue phones... there's, actual, like circuitry in them)`
`11:40.41`	`saftsack`	`yes but are there good a/d d/a in the budge tel?`
`11:41.06`	`iDunno`	`it's a cheap phone... it's good for the price.`
`11:41.28`	`saftsack`	`ok but it is normal that it sounds airless?`
`11:43.05`	`iDunno`	`fairly much.`
`11:43.23`	`saftsack`	`ok`
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`11:43.40`	`saftsack`	`so another question. do you know any spandsp version, which are stable?`
`11:51.46`	`zoa2`	`saftsack: look at the asteriskguru tutorial, that has a version included that works for sure`
`11:52.10`	`saftsack`	`do you have a link to this tutorial?`
`11:52.30`	`zoa2`	`http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/spandsp.html`
`11:53.11`	`saftsack`	`thank you`
`11:55.15`	`saftsack`	`they took the same version which i have here :)`
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`12:03.58`	`saitech`	`can anyone help me, with a problem lige this. Im getting some errors in the debug logger. It keeps spamming "chan_sip.c: failed to grab lock... trying again" its not contant, but it seems like it loops for some time now or then. When it spams me with these errors, it seems like asterisk is hanging a bit, and i cant getting any calls through.`
`12:04.31`	`kippi`	`hi`
`12:04.43`	`kippi`	`could someone have a look at this error for me please?`
`12:04.44`	`kippi`	`http://pastebin.com/484022`
`12:05.55`	`iDunno`	`that doesn't look like an error.`
`12:06.11`	`kippi`	`it is picking up the 9 and removing it, but i can't make any calls out`
`12:07.23`	`kippi`	`any ideas why it is not calling out? I can get incoming calls`
`12:07.54`	`iDunno`	`from those 2 lines?! no. not a clue.`
`12:08.10`	`kippi`	`ok,`
`12:09.51`	`kippi`	`this is the output when I dial a number`
`12:09.53`	`kippi`	`http://pastebin.com/484026`
`12:15.02`	`kippi`	`can anyone see why this is stoping me from calling out?`
`12:15.51`	`drray`	`channel 0?`
`12:16.57`	`kippi`	`is that the prob?`
`12:17.21`	`drray`	`I dunno, it just looks odd, I don't have a lot of pri experience`
`12:18.19`	`kippi`	`hmm`
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`12:18.39`	`drray`	`but everything I have zapwise is numbered 1`
`12:18.45`	`drray`	`to infiinty`
`12:19.00`	`kippi`	`how can i change that? or fix it`
`12:19.34`	`sbingner`	`heh somebody at voipjet made an error on percentage calculations... oops :b`
`12:20.17`	`sbingner`	`first zap channel should be 1`
`12:20.19`	`iDunno`	`check your zaptel.conf?`
`12:20.24`	`iDunno`	`and zapata.conf?`
`12:21.26`	`sbingner`	`you channel is Zap/1-1 that looks right`
`12:21.36`	`sbingner`	`what's g1?`
`12:21.58`	`kippi`	`thats another question we had`
`12:22.06`	`sbingner`	`g1 is a group you defined`
`12:22.10`	`drray`	`or not`
`12:22.13`	`sbingner`	`but what is it defined as?`
`12:22.56`	`sbingner`	`you define group in zapata.conf and add channels to the group`
`12:23.19`	`sbingner`	`night`
`12:23.47`	`kippi`	`there seems to be a group one, just looking at the channels in zapata.conf and I can't see any`
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`12:33.19`	`puzzled`	`morning`
`12:33.56`	`kippi`	`what is a 404 error when you try and dial out`
`12:34.04`	`fugitivo`	`morning`
`12:34.08`	`fugitivo`	`kippi: not found`
`12:35.32`	`kippi`	`when I dial out i am getting a 404, how can I work out why?`
`12:36.20`	`kippi`	`I keep on getting -- Channel 0/1, span 1 got hangup`
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`12:37.00`	`kippi`	`but can't work out why it is getting hangup`
`12:37.22`	`fugitivo`	`kippi: dialing from where to where, using what trunk, etc`
`12:37.28`	`fugitivo`	`kippi: 404 is always not found`
`12:37.29`	`davidw`	`hi guys - the outgoing directory... how does asterisk check it?`
`12:39.10`	`davidw`	`dude... it polls... lame`
`12:39.14`	`kippi`	`from my handset, I ring a number but i am geting a 404 on the phone, It should be going out on my TE110P across the ISDN`
`12:39.16`	`davidw`	`anyway, I guess that solves that`
`12:39.55`	`zoa2`	`royk, did you try those new patches ?`
`12:40.51`	`davidw`	`I'm trying to figure out why this thing calls twice when I put a call file in the outgoing directory`
`12:40.54`	`davidw`	`it's really weird`
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`12:42.02`	`kippi`	`I can get incoming calls, but out going are just not working`
`12:42.57`	`RoyK`	`zoa2: yeah. didn't have any luck with them, though`
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`12:44.45`	`zoa2`	`damn`
`12:44.50`	`zoa2`	`did you try it on the gateway yet ?`
`12:44.58`	`RoyK`	`yes`
`12:44.59`	`zoa2`	`i mean when connecting directly to the gateway ?`
`12:45.00`	`RoyK`	`just a sec`
`12:45.12`	`RoyK`	`meaning sip/zap or sip/iax2?`
`12:45.47`	`RoyK`	`brb`
`12:45.47`	`zoa2`	`sip/zap`
`12:46.04`	`RoyK`	`just gotta fix this pc`
`12:46.07`	`RoyK`	`bbiab`
`12:46.58`	`iDunno`	`right - anyone know a (good) UK based IAX2 provider?`
`12:47.55`	`cricalixwood`	`try gradwell - heard good things about them`
`12:49.54`	`saftsack`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:50.06`	`saftsack`	`someone knows this errormsg`
`12:50.06`	`saftsack`	`?`
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`12:51.06`	`coppice`	`it can't find spandsp`
`12:51.07`	`kippi`	`can anyone help me with my outgoing call problem?`
`12:51.48`	`saftsack`	`coppice, so install spansdp to /usr and not to /usr/local would probaply help?`
`12:52.13`	`coppice`	`or put /usr/local in your /etc/ld.so.conf`
`12:52.24`	`saftsack`	`did that`
`12:52.33`	`saftsack`	`oh i did /usr/local/lib into this`
`12:52.35`	`saftsack`	`that was my fault`
`12:53.18`	`coppice`	`sorry /usr/local/lib is correct. did you run ldconfig after doing that?`
`12:53.23`	`saftsack`	`yes`
`12:54.00`	`saftsack`	`but it ran very shortt`
`12:54.15`	`saftsack`	`i installed the libs to /usr/lib also now`
`12:54.20`	`saftsack`	`doesnt work too`
`12:55.12`	`coppice`	`ldconfig should take a little while`
`12:55.21`	`saftsack`	`hmm then theres the fault`
`12:55.54`	`saftsack`	`it took a while first time thats true`
`12:56.02`	`saftsack`	`but not after editing the path`
`12:56.42`	`zoa2`	`http://www.voipcharges.com/providers.php?_filter=1&country_sid=221&protocol_sid=1&letter=&search_word=`
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`12:59.03`	`oelewapperke`	`is there the possibility in asterisk to extend the iax2 protocol ?`
`12:59.08`	`oelewapperke`	`custom messages etc ... ?`
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`13:00.22`	`kippi`	`span=1,1,5,ccs,hdb3`
`13:03.00`	`kippi`	`can anyone tell me where Digium are?`
`13:03.30`	`iDunno`	`http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=about`
`13:03.40`	`iDunno`	`"""`
`13:03.43`	`iDunno`	`Based in high-tech Huntsville, Alabama`
`13:03.44`	`iDunno`	`"""`
`13:05.05`	`coppice`	`is there an alternate low-tech Huntsville, Alabama?`
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`13:06.42`	`saftsack`	`coppice, hmm doesnt work at all :(`
`13:07.04`	`coppice`	`check for typos :-)`
`13:07.14`	`saftsack`	`perfect`
`13:07.45`	`zoa2`	`oelewapperke`
`13:07.47`	`zoa2`	`why ?`
`13:07.58`	`zoa2`	`ge zijt nen belg eh ?`
`13:08.06`	`zoa2`	`nooit content`
`13:08.06`	`zoa2`	`tss`
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`13:11.45`	`coppice`	`saftsack what does "whereis libspandsp.so" say?`
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`13:11.58`	`saftsack`	`libspandsp: /usr/local/lib/libspandsp.so /usr/local/lib/libspandsp.la /usr/local/lib/libspandsp.a`
`13:12.06`	`kippi`	`anyone know if they are in today?`
`13:13.03`	`oelewapperke`	`zoa2: jep ik zijn nen belg`
`13:13.11`	`saftsack`	`but i see, the apps_makefile patch fails`
`13:13.13`	`oelewapperke`	`en ik ben ook nooit content`
`13:13.17`	`oelewapperke`	`zoa2: waarom ?`
`13:13.18`	`saftsack`	`Hunk #2 FAILED at 98.`
`13:14.05`	`blkremedy`	`Hello everyone`
`13:14.36`	`saftsack`	`i could patch the file from hand or?`
`13:16.55`	`saftsack`	`coppice, yes the patch forgot to add some lines`
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`13:17.28`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`saftsack, apply the changes manually`
`13:17.32`	`saftsack`	`yes i did so`
`13:17.38`	`saftsack`	`it compiles at the moment`
`13:17.53`	`saftsack`	`maybe repair the makefile and write to the developers?`
`13:18.03`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`but it wasn't fully applied. Look at the Makefile.rej that was generated`
`13:18.09`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`apps/Makefile.rej`
`13:18.39`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`lines that begin with - should be removed. Lines that begin with + should replace them`
`13:18.55`	`coppice`	`saftsack: nah. waste of time. the lazy sod never does anything, anyway`
`13:19.17`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`saftsack, read the FAQ: no point in sending it to the developer. That patch is merely as a reference for manual application.`
`13:20.24`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`saftsack, managed to figure it out?`
`13:21.08`	`saftsack`	`ok`
`13:22.12`	`saftsack`	`this file here isnt accepted by make :(`
`13:22.15`	`saftsack`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:22.16`	`saftsack`	`liine`
`13:22.40`	`saftsack`	`missing seperator :(`
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`13:23.01`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`saftsack, use a tab, not 8 spaces`
`13:23.02`	`coppice`	`you started with spaces. maek must hava tab character there`
`13:23.05`	`frenzy`	`hello...`
`13:23.26`	`frenzy`	`any one with experience on A2B ?`
`13:23.27`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`world`
`13:23.43`	`saftsack`	`ok ^^`
`13:24.07`	`saftsack`	`works, thank you :)`
`13:24.25`	`zoa2`	`oelewapperke: you can download the RFC draft for iax2 and can change it any way you want, but chances that the changes will be accepted into asterisk are not very big`
`13:24.34`	`zoa2`	`unless they are backwards compatible`
`13:24.47`	`zoa2`	`what are you looking to do ?`
`13:26.14`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`frenzy, no. But you can ask your question anyway`
`13:26.35`	`frenzy`	`we'll its kind of very specific`
`13:26.48`	`benjk`	`zoa, what's the URL for the iax2 spec these days?`
`13:26.49`	`frenzy`	`It now carrys a signup module`
`13:27.17`	`frenzy`	`and I need to know from where do I set the hidden values of the form...`
`13:28.05`	`saftsack`	`coppice, error :(`
`13:28.12`	`saftsack`	`/usr/lib/asterisk/modules/app_txfax.so: undefined symbol: fax_set_header_info`
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`13:28.19`	`robin_sz`	`meep?`
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`13:28.57`	`saftsack`	`hugo-v6, online?`
`13:29.43`	`benjk`	`zoa2: do you know where the spec now lives?`
`13:29.56`	`blkremedy`	`straight rookie here`
`13:29.59`	`blkremedy`	`need help`
`13:30.10`	`blkremedy`	`I mean the very basics`
`13:31.11`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`one of the basics here: you ask first and only then get answered`
`13:31.35`	`zoa2`	`hmm, good question`
`13:31.37`	`zoa2`	`let me check`
`13:32.27`	`davidw`	`saftsack, what dist are you using?`
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`13:32.31`	`zoa2`	`http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-guy-iax-00.txt`
`13:32.34`	`davidw`	`debian unstable seems to work ok for 1.2`
`13:32.36`	`zoa2`	`i think this is the most recent one`
`13:32.45`	`saftsack`	`davidw, debian`
`13:32.54`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`davidw, aren't there debs for Debian?`
`13:33.17`	`saftsack`	`there are`
`13:33.25`	`blkremedy`	`I tell you what....I somehow ran into asterisk while setting up my home voip setup. I've downloaded asteriskwin32 but, that's as far as I've gotten. Is there a booklet on command lines to use somewhere out there?`
`13:33.26`	`saftsack`	`but manual compile would imho be the best`
`13:34.05`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`saftsack, learn the ways of source debs`
`13:34.23`	`saftsack`	`^^`
`13:34.24`	`coppice`	`zoa2: does that spec just document what is in , or does it represent what IAX2 ought to be? Looks like it has the same bad stuff as to me`
`13:34.33`	`saftsack`	`would be a good way too`
`13:34.38`	`zoa`	`its hows its ought to be`
`13:34.53`	`zoa`	`on the first draft i emailed mark to say asterisk was not compatible with it`
`13:34.54`	`zoa`	`:)`
`13:35.04`	`coppice`	`zoa: it has a completely useless CNG packet`
`13:35.19`	`zoa`	`why is it completely useless ?`
`13:35.31`	`coppice`	`all it contains is a volume`
`13:35.47`	`zoa`	`i have no idea about what should be in there, make some suggestions`
`13:35.54`	`zoa`	`im sure mark will be open to suggestions`
`13:36.17`	`zoa`	`btw, is there a commercial license available for spandsp ?`
`13:36.29`	`coppice`	`try copying what is in the RTP spec CNG packet - basically a volume and a bunch of LPC reflection coefficients to model the noise`
`13:36.37`	`zoa`	`aha`
`13:36.47`	`zoa`	`would they need more place for that ?`
`13:37.22`	`zoa`	`once they get some device to support it probably they would be happy to change that`
`13:37.28`	`coppice`	`I have not yet commercially licenced spandsp, though I could. there has been only been one other contributor so far, so copyright ownership could easily be handled`
`13:37.29`	`zoa`	`if it makes more sense`
`13:37.52`	`coppice`	`that CNG packet would be bigger, but would have the distinct advantage of being useful`
`13:37.53`	`zoa`	`how long did you work on that btw, must be crazy task to do all that`
`13:39.18`	`coppice`	`it started when * started, and some early bits were common to * and spandsp. it has been sporadically developed, though`
`13:39.42`	`davidw`	`saftsack, yeah, use debian unstable if you want 1.2`
`13:40.03`	`davidw`	`the problem with manual compiles is that it works if you have just one application you are working with`
`13:40.30`	`davidw`	`however, if you go to #apache and #postgresql and #tcl etc.... and each one tells you to do a manual compile, the result is a Mess:-)`
`13:40.34`	`saftsack`	`yes and that would be common on an asterisk pbx`
`13:41.06`	`davidw`	`it depends on your ability to keep after things`
`13:41.20`	`saftsack`	`yes i do that well :)`
`13:41.25`	`robin_sz`	`if its not in a .deb, its not going in!`
`13:41.28`	`saftsack`	`and i know what you mean`
`13:41.41`	`saftsack`	`but there are some other free package manager too`
`13:41.54`	`davidw`	`robin_sz, that's basically my attitude`
`13:41.57`	`frenzy`	`I've been facing CPU Hogging issues since day one`
`13:42.06`	`frenzy`	`anyone with workaround?`
`13:42.24`	`frenzy`	`I do transcoding but there has to be a cure`
`13:42.27`	`robin_sz`	`davidw: compiling stuff is OK for pis-about boxes .. but for production, it becoems a nightmare very quickly`
`13:43.03`	`davidw`	`hrmph... anyway, why the heck would a call file place two calls?`
`13:44.01`	`davidw`	`http://pastebin.ca/35267`
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`13:44.30`	`KriS\|work`	`Hi`
`13:44.35`	`saftsack`	`hi`
`13:44.56`	`davidw`	`is there any way two somethings (threads, processes or whatever asterisk uses) could try and grab it at the same time?`
`13:46.03`	`KriS\|work`	`I have a short question... when setting up enum to dial 4417@host shouldn't my Phone that is registered on 4417 ring? Or what am I missing?`
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`13:52.14`	`frenzy`	`Anyone with a solution to CPU Hoggs?`
`13:52.24`	`frenzy`	`MOH is disabled`
`13:52.40`	`coppice`	`kill them and make bacon?`
`13:53.01`	`saftsack`	`+ $(CC) $(SOLINK) -o $@ $< -lspandsp -ltiff`
`13:53.08`	`frenzy`	`?`
`13:53.10`	`saftsack`	`it should libspands or?`
`13:53.17`	`saftsack`	`and libtiff? Oo`
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`13:58.19`	`davidw`	`hi lilo`
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`14:08.42`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`frenzy, what is the CPU hog, according to top?`
`14:09.53`	`saftsack`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:09.54`	`saftsack`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:09.56`	`saftsack`	`:)`
`14:10.18`	`saftsack`	`compiling to with prefix /usr helped`
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`14:11.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`'Sup homies`
`14:11.46`	`saftsack`	`hi`
`14:12.01`	`Dandan`	`sup sup`
`14:12.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`9am and it's pretty quiet`
`14:12.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`Everyone take today off or something?`
`14:12.11`	`Dandan`	`Dec 30 14:51:03 WARNING[31551]: chan_zap.c:4664 zt_read: Unable to set channel 4 (index 0) to linear mode.`
`14:12.18`	`Damin`	`Just hanging out..`
`14:12.28`	`Dandan`	`after upgrading from 1.2.0-beta to 1.2.0 that's what i get`
`14:12.30`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damin: You never work, so whatever with you :)`
`14:12.31`	`Damin`	`Getting a cup of coffee and waiting for my morning meeting..`
`14:12.35`	`Dandan`	`when doing transcoding...`
`14:12.37`	`Dandan`	`any idea?`
`14:12.54`	`iCEBrkr`	`Dandan: I'm still new to PRI stuff. shrugs`
`14:13.02`	`Dandan`	`iCEBrkr: me too :)`
`14:13.44`	`iCEBrkr`	`I'm debating if I should attempt to get Sphinx integrated into Asterisk`
`14:13.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`I tried awhile ago, but didn't get very far`
`14:13.52`	`Dandan`	`anyone else? it is really annoying`
`14:14.01`	`Dandan`	`iCEBrkr: do it as your new year's resolution`
`14:14.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`ha`
`14:14.17`	`iCEBrkr`	`I got Sphinx working. That was pretty exciting :)`
`14:14.31`	`Dandan`	`hehe :)`
`14:14.40`	`Dandan`	`tego z irlandii?`
`14:14.45`	`Dandan`	`wow`
`14:14.46`	`Dandan`	`not here`
`14:14.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`I could speak into my mic and it'd print the words I said up on the screen.`
`14:15.05`	`coppice`	`getting it working is not too hard. dealing with the frustration it causes is :-)`
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`14:15.21`	`memic`	`hi`
`14:15.28`	`Dandan`	`what is worse? sphinx or festival?`
`14:15.33`	`memic`	`is there a linux softphone which can use diffrent iax source ports?`
`14:15.34`	`Dandan`	`(compiling from sources that is)`
`14:15.45`	`davidw`	`apt-get install .....`
`14:15.46`	`iCEBrkr`	`It compiled just fine.`
`14:16.06`	`davidw`	`total time from reading about it on irc channel to having it installed? 30 seconds`
`14:16.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`Dandan: Figuring out which app does what and the damn cryptic command line parameters is another thing.`
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`14:16.12`	`Dandan`	`davidw: lol :) ./configure && make && make install :)`
`14:16.39`	`davidw`	`Dandan, if it sucks and I want to can it, removing it is just as fast`
`14:16.54`	`Dandan`	`i know :)`
`14:17.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`Damin: I think you guys should host a Cleveland webcam so I can check up on the weather downtown there from time to time :)`
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`14:17.15`	`dflow`	`hello`
`14:17.32`	`davidw`	`how do I test this sphinx thing?`
`14:17.33`	`Dandan`	`hey dflow`
`14:18.40`	`davidw`	`-demo`
`14:18.41`	`davidw`	`hrm...`
`14:18.46`	`davidw`	`I think it kind of sucks`
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`14:19.46`	`davidw`	`[silence] [audio] OFFICE THE DO YOU HALT THE`
`14:19.48`	`davidw`	`uhrm...`
`14:20.10`	`davidw`	`[silence] [audio] QUIT GREY THE LISTENING STOP == "voice recognition sucks ass"`
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`14:20.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`haha`
`14:20.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`davidw: I only need Sphinx to be able to recognize 1 thru 5, Yes and No`
`14:21.04`	`iCEBrkr`	`davidw: and it does just that, fairly well.`
`14:21.08`	`davidw`	`yeah, I guess it might work for that...`
`14:21.18`	`iCEBrkr`	`But as far as dictation.. Pffft`
`14:21.20`	`coppice`	`iCEBrkr: you are probably setting your expectations rather high`
`14:21.22`	`iCEBrkr`	`Throw that right out the window`
`14:21.41`	`iCEBrkr`	`coppice: Naa man it works. I had it working even with a crappy mic.`
`14:22.03`	`coppice`	`will it work over a phone line, though?`
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`14:22.36`	`iCEBrkr`	`coppice: I'd hope the sound quality from a hand-set would be better than my $3 PC mic.`
`14:22.51`	`coppice`	`think bandwidth`
`14:23.04`	`iCEBrkr`	`I know what you mean.`
`14:23.17`	`coppice`	`anyway, an entire phone costs only $1, so its a lot cheaper than your mic`
`14:23.21`	`iCEBrkr`	`But as long as theres no background noise, it shouldn't be bad.`
`14:23.48`	`coppice`	`4kHz bandwidth seriously hurt voice recognition`
`14:23.54`	`iCEBrkr`	`Yea, but you don't have shitty condenser mics in phones`
`14:23.57`	`iCEBrkr`	`Well, I guess you do now days....`
`14:23.59`	`iCEBrkr`	`hrrm.`
`14:24.12`	`davidw`	`you could hire a guy in a poor country to listen and punch buttons`
`14:24.17`	`coppice`	`actually most phones use condenser mics`
`14:24.40`	`iCEBrkr`	`I'm gonna have to steal the software that UPS and FexEx uses`
`14:25.07`	`iCEBrkr`	`or whatever TellMe uses.`
`14:26.33`	`davidw`	`oh, wierdness`
`14:26.41`	`davidw`	`the two-call problem is happening with SIP now too`
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`14:30.27`	`memic`	`hey isnt there any iax client software which can use nix iax udp port as source?`
`14:31.07`	`rculp`	`is it possible to actually store the voicemail in a mysql database instead of as files?`
`14:31.21`	`iCEBrkr`	`rculp: Not sure why you'd wanna do that.`
`14:31.29`	`rculp`	`I either didn't use the right terms or just didn't find it at the wiki`
`14:32.14`	`iCEBrkr`	`Databases aren't meant to store binary data, sure they have BLOBs but just isn't a good thing IMHO`
`14:32.41`	`rculp`	`icebrkr: just thinking of performance issues. My plan is to create a symlink to a windows share so that one of our coldfusion servers can read if mailboxes have voicemail and display and also allow our users to delete the messages from our intranet based on login`
`14:33.09`	`rculp`	`icebrkr: I'm just not sure what kind of delays or problems doing it that way would introduce in performance`
`14:33.30`	`rculp`	`icebrkr: so the mysql storage was more of a theoretical question`
`14:33.35`	`iCEBrkr`	`ahh`
`14:33.43`	`iCEBrkr`	`I'd keep'm on disk.`
`14:34.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`The only issue with your solution is the webserver has to have access to nuke files`
`14:34.20`	`iCEBrkr`	`Which could be a potential security risk.`
`14:34.37`	`rculp`	`icebrkr: well my plan was to create a symlink for the /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail dir alone`
`14:34.51`	`rculp`	`icebrkr: and then have that connect to a different server`
`14:34.58`	`rculp`	`icebrkr: and actually store the voicemail there`
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`14:35.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`no, I know what you mean`
`14:35.06`	`rculp`	`k`
`14:35.25`	`rculp`	`icebrkr: the other option is samba on the asterisk box (which I don't want)`
`14:35.32`	`iCEBrkr`	`eeep`
`14:35.38`	`rculp`	`exactly`
`14:35.41`	`iCEBrkr`	`SMB + Asterisk == Bad`
`14:35.59`	`iCEBrkr`	`Especially if you have a good amount of users with a good amount of voicemail`
`14:36.27`	`rculp`	`currently only 13, but I definately don't want to limit ourselves performance wise`
`14:36.36`	`iCEBrkr`	`Right`
`14:37.10`	`rculp`	`so if you had to make a decision, it would be more of the copy files to a webserver and read from there`
`14:37.19`	`rculp`	`instead of the webserver reading from the ast box`
`14:37.21`	`davidw`	`maybe it's the ))#$)(Q#*$ Wait...`
`14:38.02`	`memic`	`eh`
`14:39.03`	`davidw`	`it doesn't call twice when I comment out the Wait(3)`
`14:39.11`	`mutilator`	`question.. i have a dual processor system with hyperthreading enabled(i think) but i'm only seeing 2 processors in /proc/cpuinfo, is there anyway to tell if both processors are working (meaning HT is disabled) or if there is only one processor working with HT enabled?`
`14:40.05`	`rculp`	`icebrkr: does that sound about right?`
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`14:41.30`	`rculp`	`is astrealtime worth considering or does it still have some bugs?`
`14:41.51`	`coppice`	`mutilator: i think siblings tells you how many threads per core there are`
`14:42.19`	`kippi`	`can anyone see a problem with http://pastebin.com/484174 and see why I can't make out going calls?`
`14:42.30`	`ManxPowe`	`mutilator, open up the case.`
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`14:42.44`	`iCEBrkr`	`rculp: I'm not sure how I'd do it.`
`14:42.48`	`mutilator`	`hows that help manx`
`14:43.19`	`vmwarez`	`hey, anyone know if there is a way to play music on hold while transferring someone so that they hear the music instead of ringing?`
`14:43.22`	`iCEBrkr`	`rculp: I wanna say I'd have some sort of queuing system. But that'd be overly complex and keeping things in sync could be messy`
`14:43.47`	`rculp`	`kippi: do you have a full pri?`
`14:46.16`	`rculp`	`icebrkr: aye, simplicity is sometimes elegant.`
`14:46.37`	`synthetiq`	`vmwares in yoru dialcommand you use option m`
`14:47.44`	`kippi`	`rculp: full pri?`
`14:47.47`	`rculp`	`kippi: also are you sure of the framing and coding settings`
`14:48.08`	`vmwarez`	`synthetiq, thanks... without me sounding like too much of a dummy, how can i ask for more specifics?`
`14:48.32`	`rculp`	`kippi: how are your lines brought in?`
`14:48.34`	`synthetiq`	`dial(sip/1234,20,m)`
`14:50.34`	`vmwarez`	`cool, thanks!`
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`15:00.27`	`mutilator`	`does hyperthreading show as 1 processors instead of 2 when using 2.6 kernel? 2.4 kernel used to show 2 processors`
`15:01.01`	`Vijay`	`no, it does not`
`15:01.14`	`iCEBrkr`	`mutilator: you broke it`
`15:02.26`	`mutilator`	`so maybe one of my processors died?`
`15:02.27`	`mutilator`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:02.31`	`mutilator`	`thats my /proc/cpuinfo`
`15:02.45`	`mutilator`	`in the flags it shows ht`
`15:02.46`	`coppice`	`mutilator: 2.6 will show 4 processors on a dual xeon with HT enabled`
`15:03.07`	`mutilator`	`so one of my processors is dead or ht isn't enabled?`
`15:03.23`	`mosty`	`mutilator, how many processors do you have?`
`15:03.26`	`coppice`	`check your BIOS`
`15:03.32`	`mutilator`	`2`
`15:03.53`	`mutilator`	`coppice: ya it's just our database server, i can't exactly down it`
`15:04.11`	`mosty`	`you will see 4 processors if you have HT enabled in the bios and in your kernel. or 2 processors otherwise. performance won't change much either way`
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`15:04.34`	`coppice`	`2.4 did something odd sometimes, and could ignore the HT setting in the BIOS. 2.6 seems to reliably obey it`
`15:04.43`	`bkw_`	`mosty, WRONG`
`15:04.52`	`bkw_`	`you will see some improvement with HT on`
`15:05.10`	`tzanger`	`bkw_: well he didn't say you won't see any... just not much`
`15:05.12`	`tzanger`	`:-)`
`15:05.17`	`coppice`	`bkw_: depends. on a lot of my code HT significantly slows things down`
`15:05.33`	`bkw_`	`right it all "depends"`
`15:05.37`	`bkw_`	`personaly I would keep it off anyway`
`15:05.39`	`bkw_`	`its a security risk`
`15:05.42`	`mosty`	`in most cases you won't see any performance increase with HT`
`15:05.49`	`tzanger`	`?`
`15:05.53`	`mosty`	`and in some cases you will see performace decreases`
`15:05.54`	`tzanger`	`hyperthreading is a security risk?`
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`15:06.04`	`bkw_`	`tzanger, yes`
`15:06.12`	`tzanger`	`in what way?`
`15:06.30`	`lunk`	`under high load the different cores fight over cache memory, and in effect have to make the full trip to the main system memory for alternating tasks`
`15:06.34`	`tzanger`	`or are you talking about the race conditions that can arise with any threading code`
`15:06.53`	`bkw_`	`http://www.daemonology.net/hyperthreading-considered-harmful/`
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`15:07.43`	`iCEBrkr`	`"Administrators of multi-user systems "`
`15:07.55`	`iCEBrkr`	`No user should be accessing the asterisk machine.`
`15:08.02`	`tzanger`	`yeah I was just about to say that`
`15:08.05`	`bkw_`	`depends`
`15:08.12`	`bkw_`	`they should for management and monitoring purposes`
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`15:08.30`	`iCEBrkr`	`bkw_: Come'on be real.`
`15:08.38`	`bkw_`	`I am being real`
`15:08.57`	`iCEBrkr`	`bkw_: IF they alreayd have 'root' what's it matter?`
`15:08.58`	`coppice`	`mosty: some things can speed up 30% to 40% with HT. Its a big win for some stuff. its just rather variable. certainly anything single threaded doesn't get much of a boost :-)`
`15:09.10`	`bkw_`	`iCEBrkr, you let people manage the system as root?`
`15:09.16`	`bkw_`	`I don't`
`15:09.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`bkw_: I dont' let anyone manage my sysstems`
`15:09.29`	`bkw_`	`limited access via sudo`
`15:09.34`	`tzanger`	`bkw_: anyone you allow to admin the system should be trusted enough already.`
`15:09.39`	`tzanger`	`that's the point he was getting at`
`15:09.45`	`bkw_`	`tzanger, Yes but not trusted from doing something stupid`
`15:10.04`	`memic`	`is there an iax proxy somewhere?`
`15:10.08`	`tzanger`	`exploiting an HT flaw to gain access through cache leaks isn't exactly something stupid. :-)`
`15:10.14`	`bkw_`	`nope`
`15:10.17`	`bkw_`	`but its something to think about`
`15:10.20`	`bkw_`	`NEXT!!!`
`15:10.31`	`memic`	`is there an iax proxy somewhere?`
`15:10.40`	`zoa`	`next`
`15:10.42`	`tzanger`	`and if you mean something stupid as in running untested/trusted binaries on the system they're adminning... well...`
`15:10.43`	`bkw_`	`memic, We shoudl ignore you since you asked twice`
`15:10.43`	`lunk`	`memic: there's a new one called asterisk`
`15:10.51`	`memic`	`hehe`
`15:10.53`	`memic`	`hm`
`15:11.04`	`tzanger`	`so in either case, running HT on your * boxes if the improvement is measurable can only be a good thing.`
`15:11.20`	`bkw_`	`well its asterisk.. it doesn't really like to use threads...`
`15:11.23`	`bkw_`	`so no it won't help much`
`15:11.26`	`zoa`	`its slighly faster with ht`
`15:11.26`	`lunk`	`tzanger: when's the last time your * box was at 100% cpu usage? :P`
`15:11.29`	`bkw_`	`chincyness with threads`
`15:11.29`	`zoa`	`when i tested it`
`15:11.32`	`zoa`	`but not too much`
`15:11.32`	`lunk`	`should be fine tzanger`
`15:11.54`	`iCEBrkr`	`Asterisk is a threaded app. So, WTF? it doesn't like to use threads?`
`15:12.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`Make up my mind`
`15:12.10`	`memic`	`hm`
`15:12.20`	`memic`	`howto configure asterisk as iax proxy?`
`15:12.25`	`memic`	`is there any example?`
`15:12.28`	`mosty`	`coppice, i am yet to find some of these 30-40% increases, after a year and a half or so of looking`
`15:12.32`	`bkw_`	`iCEBrkr, no... the developers are against using them when they really should`
`15:12.40`	`bkw_`	`or using more of them`
`15:12.54`	`bkw_`	`to really get use of the CPU you need to thread like a crazy man`
`15:12.54`	`iCEBrkr`	`I didn't hink there was any other way to 'use threads'`
`15:12.58`	`benjk`	`memic: what do you mean by iax proxy`
`15:13.14`	`bkw_`	`malloc and threading are not the enemy ;)`
`15:14.01`	`bkw_`	`If I can find the link i'll paste it in here`
`15:14.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`Spawning threads to do tasks rocks.. I know..`
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`15:14.08`	`mosty`	`unless you're talking about microbenchmarks, which are not somewhat irrelevant`
`15:14.14`	`iCEBrkr`	`I just didn't think there was a 'other way' to do things.`
`15:14.39`	`bkw_`	`iCEBrkr, example.. we use an extra thread to play sounds into a conference... Mark thinks thats wasteful...`
`15:14.42`	`bkw_`	`I think not`
`15:15.00`	`iCEBrkr`	`huh?`
`15:15.12`	`iCEBrkr`	`Wasteful?`
`15:15.14`	`bkw_`	`yep`
`15:15.23`	`bkw_`	`like spawning a thread takes forever these days`
`15:15.32`	`zoa`	`about conferences, does somebody have a version that does not choke on ilbc and is available for download ?`
`15:15.35`	`iCEBrkr`	`pffft`
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`15:16.04`	`coppice`	`mosty: I wrote some multi-threaded DSP stuff that got a huge boost. if the code can use the chip's resources efficiently, though, it doesn't leave many processing slots for another thread to soak up.`
`15:16.09`	`bkw_`	`I see things like extra usage of 2 bytes of memory per structure delay things. JUST MALLOC IT and move on.. memory is cheap.`
`15:16.16`	`iCEBrkr`	`Once I learned how threading worked.. I was trying to figure out where I could use it in my programs..`
`15:16.28`	`iCEBrkr`	`I went back and rewrote a lot of my stuff.`
`15:16.57`	`bkw_`	`I like perl threads hehe`
`15:17.03`	`bkw_`	`evilness eh?`
`15:17.08`	`iCEBrkr`	`bkw_: haha, dude, think old school man.. You have to coutn your bits and bytes.`
`15:17.27`	`bkw_`	`well this isn't old skewl anymore..`
`15:17.47`	`coppice`	`bkw_ memory is cheap, but the effects of outgrowing your cache are not :-)`
`15:18.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`That's the thing with programmers these days. They don't coutn anything, they just say "ram's cheap" meanwhile, you gotta buy a power horse to run the app in the end.`
`15:18.20`	`bkw_`	`haha yes`
`15:18.27`	`bkw_`	`save where its really going to make a difference`
`15:18.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`That's lame.`
`15:18.33`	`bkw_`	`but where its not going to matter who cares`
`15:18.45`	`benjk`	`I finally had some success with that Hitachi WiFi phone`
`15:18.46`	`bkw_`	`its like trying to fine tune a pinto to be a porsche`
`15:18.50`	`bkw_`	`never gonna happen`
`15:18.51`	`benjk`	`it works in the pub`
`15:18.57`	`benjk`	`but not in my house`
`15:19.04`	`benjk`	`nor in my office`
`15:19.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`That's a little extreme`
`15:19.09`	`bkw_`	`wep?`
`15:19.14`	`benjk`	`no`
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`15:19.22`	`bkw_`	`file has one of those`
`15:19.25`	`benjk`	`everything disables, still doesn't work`
`15:19.35`	`benjk`	`but the pub has an Apple base station`
`15:19.36`	`iCEBrkr`	`damnit, I'm lagged to hell and back`
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`15:19.44`	`benjk`	`the other two are Netgear and Linksys`
`15:19.48`	`benjk`	`they don't work`
`15:19.51`	`bkw_`	`I gotz apple too`
`15:19.52`	`benjk`	`strange`
`15:20.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1299.491/1341.005/1376.240/22.300 ms, pipe 3`
`15:20.17`	`benjk`	`yeah the Hitachi phone seems to like the Apple base, but not the Netgear nor the Linksys`
`15:20.23`	`bkw_`	`iCEBrkr, over gprs ?`
`15:20.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`haha that's my cable!`
`15:20.52`	`iDunno`	`morning Katty :)`
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`15:22.09`	`blitzrage`	`file: peda!`
`15:22.46`	`file`	`ugh`
`15:23.46`	`coppice`	`802.11 goes from a, to b, to g, to n, but never gets implemented properly :-)`
`15:24.24`	`benjk`	`well, it seems Apple did do a better job than Netgear and Linksys`
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`15:24.51`	`coppice`	`centrino PCs can't talk reliably to cisco access points - i guess you can't expect all the obscure kit to work :-)`
`15:25.28`	`coppice`	`I doubt apple have anything to do with it. these boxes generally run the chipset supplier's code`
`15:26.08`	`benjk`	`I got this IBM ThinkPad a while ago, got a PCMCIA WiFi card for it from a second hand store to get a better price (I auctioned it) and that worked in an instant`
`15:26.35`	`benjk`	`but the Hitachi phone wont work with my base`
`15:27.43`	`benjk`	`I still think PHS is better for cordless telephony than WiFi`
`15:28.22`	`coppice`	`I think a megaphone is better for cordless telephony than WiFi`
`15:28.34`	`vmwarez`	`hey, anyone know how to play gsm files in windows?`
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`15:28.49`	`Assid`	`heya`
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`15:29.30`	`Flauto`	`Dec 30 09:18:57 WARNING[27410]: chan_sip.c:11747 add_realm_authentication: Format for authentication entry is user[:secret]@realm at line 172 what is this for? would anyone tell me?`
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`15:30.25`	`benjk`	`vmwarez: download Quicktime from Apple`
`15:31.58`	`vmwarez`	`thanks!`
`15:34.20`	`bkw_`	`ok everyone in this world is fucking daft...`
`15:34.30`	`bkw_`	`the pool on CNN is funny`
`15:34.34`	`bkw_`	`er poll`
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`15:46.46`	`Flauto`	`Dec 30 09:29:13 WARNING[27410]: chan_sip.c:9599 handle_response_register: Got 200 OK on REGISTER that isn't a register`
`15:46.50`	`Flauto`	`what is this`
`15:47.04`	`Flauto`	`i dont understand it`
`15:48.12`	`benjk`	`its a fairly common WARNING, you may safely ignore it`
`15:48.34`	`Flauto`	`benjk, would you tell me what it means?`
`15:49.05`	`iDunno`	`it means the phone sent a register to something that wasn't asking it to.`
`15:49.36`	`Flauto`	`oh`
`15:49.51`	`Flauto`	`like maybe like userid`
`15:49.55`	`iDunno`	`(or that was my best guess ;)`
`15:49.59`	`Flauto`	`or authid`
`15:50.24`	`Flauto`	`okay`
`15:50.32`	`Flauto`	`i will check my sip.conf later`
`15:50.36`	`Flauto`	`thanks`
`15:50.49`	`Flauto`	`there is something else i just saw this morning`
`15:50.52`	`Flauto`	`let me show it`
`15:51.04`	`Flauto`	`if you would tell me what is that for`
`15:51.30`	`Flauto`	`Dec 30 09:18:57 WARNING[27410]: chan_sip.c:11747 add_realm_authentication: Format for authentication entry is user[:secret]@realm at line 172`
`15:51.46`	`Flauto`	`idunno, this is it`
`15:52.18`	`benjk`	`iDunno, I don't think that is what it means`
`15:52.34`	`benjk`	`it looks more like a badly worded warning that should rather say`
`15:52.40`	`iDunno`	`benjk: well, something is sending a sip register`
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`15:52.53`	`benjk`	`Unexpected 200 OK in response to REGISTER`
`15:53.20`	`benjk`	`Asterisk was sending the REGISTER message out`
`15:53.31`	`benjk`	`and 200 OK came back, but Asterisk expected something else`
`15:53.38`	`iDunno`	`hmm, that's possible, I suppose. Seems like an odd message though for that.`
`15:53.55`	`benjk`	`like for example it expected an MD5 challenge`
`15:54.04`	`iDunno`	`ahh - that makes sense.`
`15:54.26`	`benjk`	`but as I said, the wording is really silly`
`15:54.33`	`iDunno`	`you've got to read it with squinted eyes to get that meaning ;)`
`15:54.42`	`benjk`	`:D`
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`16:02.02`	`benjk`	`another funny Asterisk message is "there is not existence of 'foobar' context"`
`16:02.32`	`benjk`	`they must have had too much Chinese take away food at Digium when they added that one`
`16:02.35`	`bkw_`	`my all time fav is`
`16:02.39`	`bkw_`	`"I should not be called"`
`16:02.49`	`bkw_`	`or`
`16:03.03`	`bkw_`	`"Avoiding deadlock.. Avoiding deadlock... DEADLOCK"`
`16:03.09`	`benjk`	`hahaha`
`16:04.08`	`benjk`	`I remember an error message in an early Modula-2 compiler some 20 years back, it said "this error should never occur, however if it does please call the following phone number and tell us what you did..."`
`16:04.35`	`iDunno`	`make fire`
`16:04.40`	`iDunno`	`can't make fire: no match`
`16:04.45`	`benjk`	`haha`
`16:06.09`	`benjk`	`early versions of OSX had a guess the command feature. when you typed 'bill gates' on the command line, it would ask back "kill gates?"`
`16:06.32`	`iDunno`	`heh - zsh will probably still do that ;)`
`16:06.48`	`benjk`	`ah yes, that's probably where it came from`
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`16:07.17`	`Katty`	`mew.`
`16:07.34`	`iDunno`	`issa Katty :)`
`16:07.38`	`Katty`	`tis.`
`16:07.51`	`benjk`	`how was the vegan breakfast party?`
`16:08.05`	`Katty`	`i was too upset to eat breakfast.`
`16:08.08`	`Katty`	`and lost my dinner last night.`
`16:08.09`	`badfoip`	`I'm a newb trying to understand asterisk limitations receiving faxes. If I have a DID through connectionjunction (or its ilk) and an asterisk server on a fat pipe would I have any problem receiving faxes cleanly with something like spandsp? It should be able to receive multiple faxes simultaniously?`
`16:09.08`	`benjk`	`if you have multiple PSTN lines, yes`
`16:09.34`	`benjk`	`if the fax connections come in over VoIP, then its not so clear`
`16:09.36`	`badfoip`	`benjk: no pstn, just DID`
`16:09.41`	`benjk`	`may or may not work`
`16:10.02`	`benjk`	`first of all, it will only work with uncompressed codecs (ie G711)`
`16:10.02`	`juanjoc`	`badfoip: You'll probably have a high failure rate`
`16:10.29`	`badfoip`	`can I force G711?`
`16:10.53`	`benjk`	`then, if any packets are dropped this can cause the fax to fail`
`16:11.01`	`badfoip`	`maybe it depends on the provider?`
`16:11.17`	`benjk`	`also latency and jitter can be problematic`
`16:11.48`	`benjk`	`depends on the connection, the bandwidth, the codec and the weakest link in the chain`
`16:12.13`	`badfoip`	`It's a fat pipe with great bandwidth, but it's still the internet.`
`16:12.21`	`benjk`	`indeed`
`16:12.36`	`benjk`	`as I said, weakest link in the chain`
`16:12.56`	`iDunno`	`surely it'll work with (u\|a)law too?`
`16:13.04`	`badfoip`	`So even forcing an uncompressed connection I'm still likely to have a high failure rate.`
`16:13.17`	`benjk`	`iDunno: ulaw/alaw == G711`
`16:13.25`	`iDunno`	`ahh - silly me :)`
`16:13.41`	`iDunno`	`yes, brain hasn't had enough coffee today and had too much alcohol yesterday ;)`
`16:13.49`	`benjk`	`badfoip: it depends, you'll have to try and see`
`16:14.00`	`badfoip`	`So there is the possibility of success.`
`16:14.15`	`benjk`	`yes`
`16:14.19`	`badfoip`	`Hmm.`
`16:14.51`	`KriS\|work`	`Any chance of finging out which Agent a call was sent to (out of the queue) and how long the caller was on the phone with the agent?`
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`16:15.12`	`benjk`	`Asterisk is a PBX`
`16:15.17`	`benjk`	`not a fax server`
`16:15.40`	`benjk`	`although SpanDSP has added that feature in form of a plug-in`
`16:15.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KriS\|work : its all in the queue_log file`
`16:16.07`	`benjk`	`but in general fax over voip is not yet there and that has nothing to do with Asterisk`
`16:16.29`	`Darkhalf`	`Maybe it's not there because people realize how dead and pointless a technology like the fax machine is. And hello.`
`16:16.45`	`benjk`	`that too, yes`
`16:16.48`	`badfoip`	`Right. Fax ought to be 100% digital... Except for the legacy.`
`16:16.50`	`ManxPowe`	`Darek-, I doubt it.`
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`16:17.02`	`ManxPowe`	`..er.. Darkhalf I dubt it.`
`16:17.07`	`davidw`	`it's pretty easy and already works`
`16:17.24`	`ManxPowe`	`My users dont use text messaging on their cell phones because "it's too complicated"`
`16:17.26`	`idpromnut`	`'morning`
`16:17.28`	`PakiPenguin`	`davidw, opensoure?`
`16:17.28`	`ManxPowe`	`Some of them don't even use e-mail`
`16:17.38`	`benjk`	`but its more like voice is priority right now in terms of development and deployment effort`
`16:17.43`	`davidw`	`not released yet`
`16:17.58`	`badfoip`	`I think there's a number of good email -> fax solutions. It's mapping a phone number to an email inbox for a large volume of faxes that's still iffy.`
`16:18.10`	`davidw`	`ManxPowe, wow... do you have someone to go around and clean up their drool?`
`16:18.24`	`ManxPowe`	`davidw, No. 8-)`
`16:18.32`	`Darkhalf`	`I don't use text-message because it's "too tedious".`
`16:18.38`	`idpromnut`	`Does anyone here have a good idea where TBCT for PRI support in Asterisk currently stands?`
`16:18.55`	`badfoip`	`benjk: thanks.`
`16:18.57`	`PakiPenguin`	`wasim, you around?`
`16:18.57`	`davidw`	`what mine does is take an email like fax+32423432232342@some.server and it sends out a fax.`
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`16:19.05`	`davidw`	`it uses asterisk's call files`
`16:19.23`	`Darkhalf`	`Does it support images?`
`16:19.33`	`davidw`	`for now it just supports pdf's because that's what we need.`
`16:19.42`	`Darkhalf`	`I'd say that would be good-e-nuff.`
`16:19.44`	`davidw`	`I hope to release it at some point, when it's ready`
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`16:19.58`	`davidw`	`I think app_txfax needs some hacking...`
`16:20.13`	`Meaty`	`Developper must create scanners sending file by email and printers printing file receiving by email.`
`16:20.19`	`seele_`	`Hello again, i need help configuring a Polycom 501`
`16:20.22`	`Darkhalf`	`I'm about to work on a voicemail deployment for a lot of users over SIP, and can't decide whether to ues asterisk or to just manage it myself and use something like the sip express media server.`
`16:20.28`	`KriS\|work`	`[TK]D-Fender, thx, that looks fine... just have to find out, if I can log this to MySQL and pass a Caller-Defined variable like a custid to the log also. (and find out when the caller hungup)`
`16:20.31`	`davidw`	`Meaty, eh?`
`16:20.36`	`seele_`	`The lines does not register`
`16:20.47`	`slappingt`	`if in asterisk after the caller leaves a message and I try to listen to message it gives me the timestamp and then no audio, any ideas?`
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`16:21.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KriS\|work : Yes to SQL storage, no to variables (unless you cheat somehow.`
`16:21.13`	`coppice`	`davidw: why don't you follow the standard?`
`16:21.24`	`seele_`	`What should i put in the DNS Domain??`
`16:21.26`	`davidw`	`coppice, what standard?`
`16:21.32`	`seele_`	`In a Polycom 501`
`16:21.34`	`coppice`	`T.37`
`16:21.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KriS\|work : I am looking to do taht to store call categorization codes and maybe more IVR collected account info.`
`16:21.42`	`ast_freak`	`How do you force a channel to hang up?`
`16:21.43`	`davidw`	`coppice, what's that?`
`16:21.46`	`obiwanmikenolte`	`seele_: Did you try Google? http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Polycom+Soundpoint+IP+501`
`16:21.52`	`ast_freak`	`From the console?`
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`16:22.04`	`coppice`	`davidw: the standard for what you are doing`
`16:22.10`	`seele_`	`obiwanmikenolte, Yes obi but the info there is pretty basic and short`
`16:22.21`	`seele_`	`obiwanmikenolte, And it does not slove my problem`
`16:22.51`	`obiwanmikenolte`	`Heh. So, you have a user and a password setup in Asterisk? Are there other phones that do register?`
`16:22.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Maybe you could try actually DESCRIBING your problem`
`16:22.58`	`obiwanmikenolte`	`Haha`
`16:23.06`	`Meaty`	`:o`
`16:23.24`	`seele_`	`Got a Poly 501 With 3 Lines each one in a different Extensions`
`16:23.27`	`davidw`	`coppice, mmmm unless it's really simple to do, I need to solve an immediate problem, not implement a standard`
`16:23.35`	`davidw`	`there is no fax machine in this office -> irritated boss`
`16:23.36`	`seele_`	`The proble is that any of these lines register`
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`16:24.10`	`obiwanmikenolte`	`You mean none of them register? And you have them pointing to the right servers with the right user names in the web interface?`
`16:24.11`	`coppice`	`davidw: it isn't much different from what you are doing. change a few minor details and you are compliant`
`16:24.11`	`seele_`	`Yes the other phones (not polys, do register)`
`16:24.32`	`seele_`	`Yes, each phone has the right extension`
`16:24.35`	`KriS\|work`	`[TK]D-Fender, you are looking at it? You mean it might be available in future versions?`
`16:24.40`	`KriS\|work`	`of Asterisk?`
`16:24.42`	`seele_`	`The polycom extensions do not register`
`16:24.50`	`davidw`	`coppice, such as? I see FAX= in some cisco doc I found via google`
`16:25.02`	`malverian[work]`	`Does extensions.ael still have #include directives and a [globals] section?`
`16:25.13`	`malverian[work]`	`I don't see one in extensions.ael.conf`
`16:25.37`	`coppice`	`davidw: the format of the mime type and the way the e-mail addresses look are the main things. the spec is quite short. take a look`
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`16:26.08`	`davidw`	`this has FAX email addresses http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2304.txt?number=2304`
`16:26.21`	`davidw`	`mmmmm but.... + is an easy divider to use`
`16:26.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KriS\|work : In the future? who knows, right now I'm planning on how I'm going to "cheat" to get the end-to-end visibility I need.`
`16:26.59`	`davidw`	`postfix already deals with that as 'local extensions'`
`16:27.25`	`KriS\|work`	`[TK]D-Fender, do you know, if the caller that is passed into the queue still has the same unique astid when he/she gets passed to an Agent?`
`16:27.31`	`malverian[work]`	`Nevermind...`
`16:27.33`	`malverian[work]`	`Found it.`
`16:27.54`	`KriS\|work`	`[TK]D-Fender, sounds interessting :)`
`16:28.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KriS\|work : NOPE! It starts anew channel and it gets a new ID. Thats the challenge. I've thought up ways to get around that using extra database tables which I'm waiting to implement.`
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`16:28.28`	`davidw`	`coppice, any idea what kind of attachment it's supposed to be?`
`16:28.53`	`ast_freak`	`soft hangup <channel>`
`16:29.14`	`malverian[work]`	`Wait.. I guess I still don't know if #include is accepted in AEL.. anyone know?`
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`16:29.27`	`davidw`	`coppice, and - is it this one: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2305.txt?number=2305 or something else?`
`16:29.47`	`davidw`	`this is talking about tiff`
`16:30.05`	`KriS\|work`	`[TK]D-Fender, hmm.. right, may I bug you about this feature again in a couple of weeks? To find out what you achieved?`
`16:30.18`	`davidw`	`which is not ok, because I want to be "liberal with what I accept" - PDF for now, but tiff, postscript, png... I could see a lot of things as being ok`
`16:31.13`	`coppice`	`davidw: then you probably don't want to follow standards`
`16:31.50`	`davidw`	`coppice, accepting standard format stuff would be good, I could see the advantages of that. But I need to accept pdf -> therefore I need to implement at least a superset of the standard`
`16:31.57`	`coppice`	`davidw: however, accepting T.37 complaint stuff and generating it will be a good thing`
`16:32.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KriS\|work : Probably won't have gotten anywhere (lack of time/motivation), but here's the idea : Do your IVR data collecting using the UNIQUEID as the key. Then before sending the caller into a queue set the CallerID name AS the UNIQUEID. then when doing your agent call-back login's in the context you define have it parse it back out before dialing or something and retrieve the ORIGINAL callerID.`
`16:32.22`	`malverian[work]`	`Or do I have to stuff all of my AEL contexts into a single file?`
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`16:32.46`	`davidw`	`coppice, yeah...`
`16:32.55`	`davidw`	`makes sense`
`16:34.27`	`seele_`	`Help my polycom lines do not register`
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`16:34.53`	`seele_`	`voip-info.org does not help`
`16:35.05`	`loud`	`icepick.`
`16:37.28`	`KriS\|work`	`[TK]D-Fender, right, I'll have a look if I can get anywhere :) Thanks for the Tip.`
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`16:40.56`	`seele_`	`Anyboody please my company is waiting for this phone`
`16:41.08`	`seele_`	`501 Does not register Lines`
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`16:43.01`	`Beirdo`	`Heya, Katty`
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`16:43.15`	`Beirdo`	`in the need of a ball of yarn, are we?`
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`16:44.49`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`seele_, hmmm, could you please be more specific about your problem?`
`16:45.37`	`seele_`	`tzafrir_laptop, simply.. my polycom extensions do not register,`
`16:45.52`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`the polycom should register into what exactly? why do you assume it should? what do you expect to see? what do you see instead?`
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`16:46.07`	`seele_`	`tzafrir_laptop, i have tried doing it via Asterisk and via phone... nieither works`
`16:46.45`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`seele_, how can you tell that it does not register?`
`16:46.57`	`seele_`	`tzafrir_laptop, in the menu Status of the phone there is one link that says lines.. there are the three lines they look all (disabled)`
`16:47.17`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`what version of asterisk is it?`
`16:47.31`	`seele_`	`They all say "Not registered"`
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`16:49.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`seele_ : Take screen-shots of your web config pages, host them somewhere and then pastebin your sip.conf.`
`16:50.05`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`seele_, version? anyway, I don't really know polycoms, so I'll look at the asterisk side. run 'sip show peers' in the asterisk CLI . are there entries for this specific phone?`
`16:50.43`	`malverian[work]`	`So I guess there is no equivalent of #include for extensions.ael`
`16:50.56`	`malverian[work]`	`Excellent...`
`16:51.22`	`seele_`	`tzafrir_laptop, I'll do that thanks`
`16:51.24`	`malverian[work]`	`I assume I can't #include AEL files from my extensions.conf either..`
`16:51.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`AEL = worthless. Offers nothing that standard extensions.conf doesn't. Frankly I even prefer the old way`
`16:51.40`	`malverian[work]`	`[TK]D-Fender, I like it because the syntax is more managable..`
`16:51.41`	`Katty`	`hiya Beirdo`
`16:51.46`	`Beirdo`	`hey :)`
`16:51.50`	`Katty`	`iDunno: i'd rather have a real mouse.`
`16:52.54`	`Katty`	`eyer.`
`16:53.08`	`Beirdo`	`hehe`
`16:53.13`	`twisted[asteria]`	`eye spy with my little eye`
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`16:53.34`	`twisted[asteria]`	`there is no spoon, suckah`
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`16:57.46`	`Katty`	`oh.`
`16:58.40`	`Katty`	`how do i grep ps aux for fceu?`
`16:59.00`	`shido6`	`ps -aux \| grep fceu ?`
`16:59.02`	`JunK-Y`	`ps aux\|grep foo`
`16:59.04`	`iDunno`	`ps aux \| grep fceu`
`16:59.14`	`Katty`	`so which one is it...`
`16:59.15`	`Katty`	`^_^`
`16:59.18`	`Katty`	`thx.`
`16:59.52`	`seele_`	`tzafrir_laptop, in asterisk CLI the phone appears Unmonitored`
`17:00.00`	`Katty`	`weird.`
`17:00.05`	`Katty`	`fceu isn't in my process list.`
`17:00.11`	`seele_`	`tzafrir_laptop, Lately it has been making calls but not recieving them`
`17:00.12`	`Katty`	`how do you launch a game in /usr/game?`
`17:00.26`	`Katty`	`since typing it /name/ of the game doesn't work..`
`17:00.39`	`JunK-Y`	`seele_: make sure you have qualify=yes`
`17:00.41`	`iDunno`	`/usr/game/blah/blip/snotbubbles`
`17:00.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`seele_ : Pastebin your sip.conf, and then host screenshots of your web config and I'll take a look.`
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`17:00.52`	`iDunno`	`but more likely /usr/games/nameofgame`
`17:01.17`	`Katty`	`hrmm..i tried that`
`17:01.23`	`Katty`	`it didn't launch the game though.`
`17:01.28`	`Katty`	`instead it goes through a list of options`
`17:01.50`	`iDunno`	`maybe you need to give it some options to play it?`
`17:01.55`	`robertj`	`what game?`
`17:02.03`	`LostFrog`	`Anyone know of any games you can play through DTMF on *?`
`17:02.07`	`Katty`	`zsnes didn't need any :<`
`17:02.12`	`LostFrog`	`Other than the number guessing game.`
`17:02.25`	`Katty`	`HORROR`
`17:02.28`	`Katty`	`it dies.`
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`17:02.48`	`Katty`	`hihi anthm`
`17:03.01`	`Katty`	`maybe i'll abandon fceu`
`17:03.07`	`anthm`	`hi`
`17:03.07`	`Katty`	`what's another nes emulator one of you peoples use?`
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`17:03.19`	`anthm`	`nesticle?`
`17:03.26`	`Katty`	`you mean nestra?`
`17:04.40`	`LostFrog`	`nesticle.. lol`
`17:04.47`	`LostFrog`	`Please tell me that is a real program.`
`17:04.58`	`anthm`	`it is`
`17:05.04`	`anthm`	`nes emu`
`17:05.21`	`anthm`	`i think they made genicide too for sega`
`17:05.38`	`anthm`	`http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/nes/`
`17:05.42`	`anthm`	`there are pleanty`
`17:06.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`LostFrog : tic-tac-toe`
`17:06.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`LostFrog : you could also play chess easily enough.`
`17:07.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`LostFrog : Perhaps a trivia multiple choice game.`
`17:07.46`	`anthm`	`but of course`
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`17:08.19`	`iDunno`	`Katty: what's fceu?!`
`17:08.38`	`anthm`	`http://www.nocoho.com/vid/vid1.jpg <- hand made by obcessed emu fanatic`
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`17:11.27`	`twisted[asteria]`	`w0rd`
`17:11.29`	`twisted[asteria]`	`nestopia`
`17:11.36`	`twisted[asteria]`	`now i just need smb rom`
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`17:13.57`	`Qwell`	`You'd think out of 561 roms, I'd have that...`
`17:14.23`	`Qwell`	`or...maybe I do`
`17:16.39`	`Qwell`	`off to work :(`
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`17:21.46`	`anthm`	`cos (image) is implied`
`17:22.05`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`The mere thought of every distro having its own ISO (and a number of them...)`
`17:23.21`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`anyway, what's the status of chan_h323? is it generally working?`
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`17:49.03`	`jarrod`	`hey`
`17:49.17`	`twisted[asteria]`	`hooray!`
`17:49.18`	`twisted[asteria]`	`zelda!`
`17:49.25`	`jarrod`	`what good legacy integration customer equipment is there for interfacing phone systems into sip -> asterisk?`
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`17:55.07`	`blitzrage`	`jarrod: like a channel bank you mean?`
`17:56.17`	`jarrod`	`yea similar`
`17:56.30`	`blitzrage`	`what are you trying to integrate?`
`17:56.31`	`jarrod`	`that converts the analog signals to digital and encapsulates in voip protocol`
`17:56.37`	`jarrod`	`a legacy phone system`
`17:56.43`	`jarrod`	`into ip protocol`
`17:57.01`	`freespace-in`	`fxs/fxo or e&m analog?`
`17:57.09`	`jarrod`	`fxs over amphenol`
`17:57.13`	`blitzrage`	`usually channel bank for more than like 4+ lines`
`17:57.25`	`freespace-in`	`you could do that with cisco equipment`
`17:57.40`	`freespace-in`	`they actually have a voice card that accepts amphenol`
`17:57.45`	`jarrod`	`know particular gear?`
`17:57.48`	`jarrod`	`ive seen the NM-HDA`
`17:57.53`	`freespace-in`	`yep`
`17:58.02`	`freespace-in`	`that's the one`
`17:58.15`	`blitzrage`	`Digium has the TDM2400P that has an amphenol connector on it now`
`17:58.27`	`davidw`	`dammit`
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`17:58.28`	`blitzrage`	`I can't vouch for it though -- never used it`
`17:58.35`	`davidw`	`it keeps f34423432 sending double with call files`
`17:58.42`	`freespace-in`	`i don't understand why you'd want to put a card like that in a pc`
`17:58.44`	`jarrod`	`yea i was looking at cisco.. i just wasnt sure what was solid hardware/ios to choose`
`17:59.06`	`freespace-in`	`you could do it with a 2600XM or a 2810/2811`
`17:59.33`	`jarrod`	`yea i guess it would require dsps`
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`18:00.53`	`blitzrage`	`jarrod: the point of Digium hardware is to not require expensive DSPs and use the CPU to help keep the hardware relatively inexpensive`
`18:02.08`	`jarrod`	`i want excellent quality`
`18:02.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`jarrod: you realize your standard PSTN isnt' excelllent quality.. right?`
`18:02.47`	`jarrod`	`excellent pared against pots`
`18:02.51`	`PakiPenguin`	`iCEBrkr, isdn is`
`18:02.51`	`jarrod`	`no echo`
`18:02.52`	`PakiPenguin`	`:)`
`18:02.57`	`jarrod`	`jitter`
`18:03.02`	`jarrod`	`or as little as possible`
`18:03.04`	`iCEBrkr`	`PakiPenguin: Pfft, no.`
`18:03.26`	`PakiPenguin`	`iCEBrkr, why? its almost near to excellent isnt it?`
`18:05.19`	`davidw`	`ARGH`
`18:06.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`PakiPenguin: PSTN is 4kHz of bandwidth regardless.`
`18:06.26`	`PakiPenguin`	`yeah well`
`18:08.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`PakiPenguin: So when you like encode a MP3 next time, use 8 bits per sample.. (8kHz) and that's pretty much what you got for phone.`
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`18:08.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`I dunno why everyone is trying to make their VoIP be CD quality.`
`18:08.36`	`PakiPenguin`	`:) iCEBrkr phone is for voice?`
`18:08.37`	`PakiPenguin`	`right`
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`18:08.57`	`iCEBrkr`	`Um yeah.`
`18:08.58`	`iCEBrkr`	`Not music.`
`18:09.02`	`iCEBrkr`	`:)`
`18:09.07`	`Renacor`	`hey`
`18:09.16`	`Renacor`	`anybody here have problems with new polycom phones?`
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`18:12.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Nope! Polycom = GOLD`
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`18:20.00`	`file`	`[TK]D-Fender: my polycom is black, where do I get a gold one?`
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`18:21.35`	`ClayReiche123`	`Is there any way to put pauses in the Dial command?`
`18:22.24`	`iCEBrkr`	`ClayReiche123: 'w'`
`18:22.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`It's in the Wiki,`
`18:23.45`	`obiwanmikenolte`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Dial`
`18:23.46`	`Katty`	`file: mew?`
`18:23.59`	`obiwanmikenolte`	`Has anyone gotten valetparking working with Asterisk@Home?`
`18:24.06`	`davidw`	`maybe the manager API is better than call files?:-/`
`18:24.09`	`davidw`	`(dammit!)`
`18:24.31`	`file`	`er Katty rather`
`18:25.21`	`davidw`	`Well sheee-it`
`18:25.48`	`obiwanmikenolte`	`Somebody done kicked your dog, Mayvus?`
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`18:26.37`	`iCEBrkr`	`Need. Sleepy.`
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`18:26.53`	`Katty`	`iCEBrkr: i hear naps are good for curing the sleepiness.`
`18:27.16`	`obiwanmikenolte`	`At least allaying them. Don't you have a nice, warm, fuzzy server room?`
`18:27.19`	`davidw`	`call files should use the directory notifier stuff on Linux`
`18:27.23`	`ClayReiche123`	`Sorry, I'm not seeing that on the wiki.... 'w' is some recording command??? I'm looking for a way to inject pauses similar to a modems ability to put commas....`
`18:28.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`ClayReiche123: Learn to read better`
`18:28.10`	`iCEBrkr`	`Here, lemm eput your nose in it.`
`18:28.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+Dial`
`18:28.26`	`iCEBrkr`	`"Dial command, and the options available to you when doing so. If you need a pause while dialing a number you can insert a w in the appropriate place."`
`18:28.36`	`Katty`	`ClayReiche123: w means wait, dear.`
`18:28.37`	`cripito`	`hi jarrod`
`18:28.49`	`iCEBrkr`	`Your broswer has this neat feature called'Find'.. Usually launched by pressing ^F`
`18:28.50`	`ClayReiche123`	`I'm sorry... thank you`
`18:28.55`	`iCEBrkr`	`and typing in the word you'd like to find.`
`18:28.59`	`ClayReiche123`	`was reading the 'w' option.....`
`18:28.59`	`Katty`	`ClayReiche123: most often used with regular analog lines.`
`18:29.11`	`Katty`	`ClayReiche123: like when dialing with a modem, it waits for a dialtone.`
`18:29.17`	`Katty`	`ClayReiche123: otherwise, the call won't go out right.`
`18:29.17`	`ClayReiche123`	`Thanks Katty`
`18:29.26`	`iCEBrkr`	`<-- jerk`
`18:29.33`	`ClayReiche123`	`Take a nap iCEBrkr`
`18:29.44`	`iCEBrkr`	`=.=`
`18:31.17`	`SwK[Work]`	`is there an amportal channel?`
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`18:32.04`	`twisted[asteria]`	`Katty, ur evil`
`18:32.07`	`twisted[asteria]`	`:P`
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`18:33.56`	`tzanger`	`757L, 76.9c/L`
`18:33.57`	`phantomcircuit-a`	`http://phantomcircuit.mine.nu/ i got splooged on :(`
`18:34.12`	`twisted[asteria]`	`tzanger, ?`
`18:34.18`	`tzanger`	`twisted[asteria]: heating oil`
`18:34.23`	`twisted[asteria]`	`tzanger, ah`
`18:34.24`	`tzanger`	`last fillup was October`
`18:34.50`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: evil?!`
`18:35.00`	`Katty`	`twisted[asteria]: why? did i beepbeep you int he middle of a meeting? ;)`
`18:35.10`	`tzanger`	`I have a $2k bill with the oil/gas co right now (I get all my fuel for the vehicles there too)`
`18:35.13`	`twisted[asteria]`	`Katty, yes, your talk about nes emulators with anthm got me using nestopia`
`18:35.19`	`twisted[asteria]`	`now i'm saving the princess zelda instead of my work`
`18:35.20`	`Katty`	`k`
`18:35.37`	`tzanger`	`hahaha`
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`18:35.58`	`twisted[asteria]`	`sweet & sour chicken here`
`18:36.00`	`twisted[asteria]`	`mmmm`
`18:36.08`	`twisted[asteria]`	`i hope my cookie has mod-offensive`
`18:36.09`	`Dandan`	`liquid diet here :)`
`18:36.14`	`pepzi`	`any NAT-experts here? :)`
`18:36.27`	`Cresl1n`	`pssh... NAT`
`18:36.31`	`Dandan`	`pepzi: as long as it works, I am one :D`
`18:36.32`	`twisted[asteria]`	`ooh`
`18:36.38`	`twisted[asteria]`	`i've learned banana in chinese`
`18:36.51`	`Dandan`	`if there are problems, ask <RANDOM-NAME>`
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`18:40.17`	`tzanger`	`twisted[asteria]: I bet that will come in all sorts of handy :-)`
`18:41.42`	`idpromnut`	`Cresl1n: PING`
`18:42.02`	`Cresl1n`	`idpromnut: ACK`
`18:42.03`	`Cresl1n`	`:-D`
`18:42.14`	`idpromnut`	`:)`
`18:42.26`	`twisted[asteria]`	`tzanger, i hope so`
`18:43.59`	`idpromnut`	`Cresl1n: I sent you an email asking about TBCT; I was wondering if you'd gotten it...`
`18:44.02`	`Dr-Linux`	`http://pastebin.com/484401 << here is my macro, all the extensions come through it, i want if someone extension not available then the caller should go to his/her unavailable message, currently caller listen invalid extension. any help?`
`18:44.04`	`SwK[Work]`	`I LOATH AMP!`
`18:44.20`	`Cresl1n`	`idpromnut, oh about working on it?`
`18:44.21`	`file`	`SwK[Work]: whyfor loath teh AMP?`
`18:44.23`	`idpromnut`	`Cresl1n: I didn't expect to catch you here; otherwise I'd have skipped the email :)`
`18:44.37`	`Cresl1n`	`idpromnut: I'm not sure when I can, I'm pretty wrapped up right now`
`18:44.37`	`SwK[Work]`	`file: its teh suck when you can only use ssh to work on it`
`18:44.47`	`file`	`SwK[Work]: hax0r it`
`18:44.51`	`idpromnut`	`Cresl1n: yeah... specifically, I need that feature, so if it's in asterisk, yay. Otherwise... I'll need to get out my C skils :)`
`18:45.01`	`SwK[Work]`	`file: working on that right now`
`18:45.24`	`fugitivo`	`l4m3`
`18:45.42`	`Cresl1n`	`idpromnut: I have an untested implementation already done for 5ESS`
`18:45.50`	`Dr-Linux`	`tzanger: can you help?`
`18:45.59`	`Cresl1n`	`idpromnut: but last time I heard somebody tried it, I don't think it worked`
`18:46.13`	`idpromnut`	`Cresl1n: dood. :) We need to chat then :) I'll let you be, but if wouldn't mind, I'd like to work on that...`
`18:46.18`	`Cresl1n`	`idpromnut: so there's probably going to be some time involved in testing/bugfixing`
`18:46.42`	`idpromnut`	`Cresl1n: that's fine with me... I wasn't looking forward to tacking in a feature into code that I really didn't know`
`18:47.13`	`idpromnut`	`Debugging though, I don't mind doing. And I have two PRIs here just waiting on a Lucent 5ESS switch :)`
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`18:53.43`	`jarrod`	`awesome`
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`18:56.21`	`NDT`	`OK...this is probably a dumb question...but are digium T1 cards RJ45 or RJ48?`
`18:56.58`	`idpromnut`	`NDT: rj45 from the looks of mine.`
`18:57.11`	`Dandan`	`45`
`18:57.36`	`NDT`	`ok...so SBC is a company that ran T1 in...said they are RJ48...so you have to build a crossover from RJ48 to RJ45?`
`18:57.47`	`znoG`	`anyone own a Sipura SPA 2000 ?`
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`18:58.02`	`znoG`	`or work with one`
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`18:58.51`	`Dandan`	`NDT: regural 45 should work`
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`19:00.03`	`NDT`	`They are saying it won't...so I am all confised here...heh datacenter where we have some of our servers is just rj45...where this server is they say it is rj48`
`19:00.43`	`Dandan`	`http://www.arcelect.com/RJ_Jack_Glossary.htm`
`19:00.45`	`Dandan`	`well`
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`19:01.12`	`Dandan`	`right rj-48 is 5 pair`
`19:01.15`	`Dandan`	`wow`
`19:01.32`	`Dandan`	`http://www.bnoack.com/index.html?http&&&www.bnoack.com/data/cables/RJ_types.html`
`19:01.34`	`Dandan`	`here too`
`19:02.12`	`tzanger`	`Dr-Linux: looking now`
`19:02.18`	`tzanger`	`RJ48 is 5 pair?`
`19:02.22`	`jarrod`	`haha`
`19:02.47`	`Dandan`	`tzanger: yup`
`19:02.55`	`Dandan`	`according to those websites (both of them)`
`19:02.58`	`tzanger`	`Dandan: interesting. Do yo uhave a source on that?`
`19:03.01`	`tzanger`	`oh right up there`
`19:03.17`	`Dandan`	`interesting indeed`
`19:03.18`	`tzanger`	`I always thought RJ48 was the funky version of RJ45 where there's that "key" sticking out the top left side`
`19:03.20`	`NDT`	`They have me lost...I mean wtf am I supposed to do with an RJ48 LOL`
`19:03.33`	`tzanger`	`Dr-Linux: what's the problem?`
`19:03.54`	`tzanger`	`if the Dial() fails with busy or anything you Playback(invalid)`
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`19:05.41`	`malverian[work]`	`Is the old extensions.conf ever going to be deprecated?`
`19:06.02`	`znoG`	`in favour of?`
`19:06.07`	`malverian[work]`	`extensions.ael`
`19:06.18`	`znoG`	`speaking of .ael, how does one actually use it?`
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`19:06.24`	`znoG`	`or is it automatically read' in by asterisk?`
`19:06.30`	`tzanger`	`Dandan: The RJ48 has an extra tab so that a RJ48 plug will not push into a RJ45 jack, but a RJ45 plug will mate with a RJ48 jack.`
`19:06.33`	`tzanger`	`aha`
`19:06.38`	`tzanger`	`I was right, I never noticed the extra two positions though`
`19:06.41`	`malverian[work]`	`I was planning to switch over to AEL under the premise that the old format would be deprecated.`
`19:07.01`	`malverian[work]`	`But if that's not the case, then I will stick with the old format.. (especially since AEL doesn't have a way of #including other files)`
`19:07.01`	`Dandan`	`tzanger: me too, but if sbc has an output with dj48 maybe they use all 5 pairs?`
`19:07.28`	`znoG`	`malverian[work]: so asterisk just reads in extensions.ael or one has to explicitly tell it to load it up?`
`19:07.43`	`znoG`	`bummer about not being able to include`
`19:07.47`	`davidw`	`damn`
`19:07.51`	`malverian[work]`	`znoG, It reads it automatically if it exists as long as you load the pbx_ael.so`
`19:08.09`	`davidw`	`how do I really know if a call was answered or not?`
`19:08.21`	`davidw`	`I'm getting kind of tired:-(`
`19:08.22`	`malverian[work]`	`davidw, Goto(s-${DIALSTATUS})`
`19:08.37`	`malverian[work]`	`Or just look at the value of ${DIALSTATUS} I guess..`
`19:08.41`	`znoG`	`malverian[work]: ah, i see. it still lacks a few things by the look of it`
`19:08.57`	`malverian[work]`	`znoG, #include is the only thing that's prohibiting me from moving forward.`
`19:09.07`	`malverian[work]`	`I'm not going to stick roughly 30 contexts into a single file..`
`19:10.58`	`linagee`	`i know what you do with RJ48. lick it! zzzt!`
`19:11.52`	`davidw`	`malverian[work], yeah.... I've been looking at that...`
`19:12.05`	`davidw`	`malverian[work], I guess TxFax doesn't really do that`
`19:14.55`	`Renacor`	`anybody here have problems with new polycom phones? and them not being able to contact the bootserver?`
`19:14.57`	`znoG`	`malverian[work]: for all the logic in my asterisk system I use AGI as the dialplan is not flexible enough`
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`19:17.07`	`malverian[work]`	`znoG, I use AGI only when necessary..`
`19:17.37`	`malverian[work]`	`davidw, It returns -1 which means that your dialplan will exit.`
`19:18.24`	`malverian[work]`	`davidw, The way we look for failed faxes (incoming) is if it doesn't get to the next step in the dialplan (I insert this data into a MySQL database using a logger I wrote for the manager api). If there are any failed ones, it sends an email report.`
`19:18.41`	`malverian[work]`	`davidw, We don't use asterisk for transmitting faxes though.. we have standalone fax units.`
`19:22.29`	`badboyz`	`Renacor: ?`
`19:22.40`	`badboyz`	`Renacor: elaborate please`
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`19:26.44`	`NDT`	`On phone with netxusa about the rj48 issues LOL`
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`19:27.12`	`cripito`	`we are using asterisk to send fax`
`19:27.23`	`cripito`	`but the fax are in a channel bank.`
`19:27.43`	`davidw`	`got to go`
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`19:35.40`	`malverian[work]`	`How well does fax detection work on Asterisk? Eg.. the fax, exten.`
`19:36.29`	`Katty`	`file: mew.`
`19:36.59`	`fugitivo`	`malverian[work]: detection? fine`
`19:38.24`	`malverian[work]`	`fugitivo, No false positives?`
`19:38.56`	`malverian[work]`	`fugitivo, I'm considering it for our system here, bu I don't want customers getting a loud fax noise when they call in ever.`
`19:39.22`	`malverian[work]`	`We already have a dedicated number for faxes, but we keep getting stupid customers calling the fax line and faxing to the main line.`
`19:39.24`	`znoG`	`malverian[work]: how come you avoid using AGI anyway?`
`19:39.35`	`anthm`	`just dont whistle`
`19:39.42`	`malverian[work]`	`znoG, When it's not necessary, why have asterisk fork?`
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`19:39.57`	`znoG`	`malverian[work]: oh, yeah, i thought there may have been another reason`
`19:40.13`	`malverian[work]`	`znoG, No, I just try to use dialplan when possible, keeps things nice and contained.`
`19:40.38`	`malverian[work]`	`Though I've written libs in Perl and PHP for making AGI scripts quickly.`
`19:40.42`	`fugitivo`	`malverian[work]: it happened only once to me, a call from a cellphone`
`19:40.58`	`fugitivo`	`malverian[work]: asterisk detected a fax tone and sent the caller to the fax extension`
`19:41.20`	`znoG`	`malverian[work]: in my case i have to ask for pins in some cases, i want to say wrong pin if it doesn't exist, and a bunch of other stuff. It was really messy to do it in Asterisk, though possible.`
`19:42.39`	`malverian[work]`	`znoG, Yes, things like that it's obviously the right tool for the job, but why use AGI for simple dialplans? Eg.. I don't want to call GetDigits for simple menu systems (Eg. "Press 1 for... press 2 for..") when the dialplan can do that easily.`
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`19:47.11`	`NDT`	`well RJ48 was setup as 1,2,4,5...so...if anyone runs into a RJ48 issue...digium cards would be setup like this http://pastebin.com/484478`
`19:47.47`	`NDT`	`put it there incase anyone wants to save it heh`
`19:48.05`	`tzanger`	`NDT: that's normal T1 crossove`
`19:48.39`	`NDT`	`I never had to do it before...the datacenter I just come out straight normal 568b wired rj45`
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`19:49.16`	`NDT`	`apparently they already have it done in the datacenter behind the panel`
`19:49.54`	`Hackez`	`hi i want to ask something about asterisk can i just my own phone line and just put like 3 modem cards and connect phones to the modems and just do like that`
`19:50.44`	`Hackez`	`or do i need to do it as they show it the systm ep`
`19:52.38`	`NDT`	`regular modems wont work`
`19:52.50`	`fugitivo`	`~docs`
`19:52.52`	`jbot`	`hmm... docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html`
`19:53.07`	`fugitivo`	`~fxsfxo`
`19:53.12`	`jbot`	`it has been said that fxsfxo is An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage.`
`19:53.12`	`Hackez`	`thank you`
`19:53.19`	`fugitivo`	`there`
`19:55.12`	`Hackez`	`hey but i dont see in any of the howto's i found if i can use a pci modem for talking the phone line in and to the phone that you need to test or you use to make calls`
`19:55.36`	`NDT`	`I said you cant use a regular modem`
`19:56.04`	`fugitivo`	`Hackez: you didn`
`19:56.09`	`fugitivo`	`Hackez: you didn't read enough`
`19:56.10`	`Hackez`	`sorry`
`19:56.30`	`NDT`	`http://cgi.ebay.com/X100P-FXO-PCI-Clone-for-Digium-Asterisk-VoIP-PBX_W0QQitemZ5848353556QQcategoryZ61841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem`
`19:56.33`	`Hackez`	`that sucks tho`
`19:56.33`	`trixter`	`my parents need one working x100p, they dont want to put that much money into this and the seller that was $17 delivered is currently not selling them on ebay. Does anyone have a spare they wouldnt mind selling?`
`19:56.49`	`fugitivo`	`Hackez: if you can write a driver for your modems, go ahead`
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`19:57.23`	`Hackez`	`right`
`19:57.28`	`fugitivo`	`trixter: no more sellers on ebay?`
`19:59.25`	`obiwanmikenolte`	`http://cgi.ebay.com/X100P-FXO-PCI-Clone-for-Digium-Asterisk-VoIP-PBX_W0QQitemZ5848353556QQcategoryZ61841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem`
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`19:59.45`	`obiwanmikenolte`	`Still, yeah. I know the one you're talking about that would have like 40 at a time. Maybe they're just taking the holidays off`
`20:00.15`	`Hackez`	`thanks guys for the help`
`20:00.17`	`obiwanmikenolte`	`One can only hope. The world can't turn without dirt-cheap X100 knock-offs`
`20:01.12`	`NDT`	`http://stores.ebay.com/Goods-2-World <--that one you mean?`
`20:01.19`	`NDT`	`One I bought 2 from`
`20:01.43`	`NDT`	`nothing in their store now though...but try sending them an email`
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`20:03.50`	`slak-`	`hey`
`20:03.56`	`NDT`	`There were a few regular modems that worked with asterisk at one time...what the heck were they...can't remember where I saw em`
`20:03.57`	`slak-`	`anyone notice MeetMe issues with 1.2.1`
`20:04.03`	`slak-`	`poor sound quality`
`20:04.07`	`slak-`	`darth vader effect`
`20:04.14`	`slak-`	`loogey stuck in throat voice`
`20:04.19`	`NDT`	`breathing too?`
`20:04.21`	`NDT`	`hehe`
`20:04.39`	`slak-`	`heh`
`20:04.49`	`slak-`	`beef curtains are not to be shredded`
`20:04.52`	`slak-`	`they are very sensitive`
`20:05.25`	`slak-`	`okay im going to try latest stable from cvs`
`20:06.09`	`Hackez`	`hey sorry to ask this but is there a way to be able to call your asterisk box over the next like over ip or a free phone number ?`
`20:06.24`	`Hackez`	`net*`
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`20:06.52`	`NDT`	`hmmm I think it was this modem http://www.cuscominc.com/product_info.php/cPath/109/products_id/619?osCsid=c53ad167b6cc1dd71bc4662dffe01ef9`
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`20:09.51`	`trixter`	`fugitivo: they arent the smae price, its gonna be more and my parents are cheap, not wanting to spend more than they already have`
`20:10.48`	`trixter`	`obiwanmikenolte: yeah that was more why I was asking about cheaper ones.. thanks though`
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`20:20.10`	`NDT`	`found articles said this modem works...gonna buy one and try it just to see if they do LOL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16825180004`
`20:24.53`	`trixter`	`ndt: yeah there are 3 chipsets that generally work, iirc some designs you should remove 2 capicitors (prolly acting as a filter coupled with a resistor) or maybe it was 2 resistors anyway same result.`
`20:25.33`	`trixter`	`not removing the resistor or whatever would likely not make it not work just provider audio quality issues since the data is being filtered for different purposes than voice`
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`20:34.54`	`Sconk_`	`Humm can get pointed to some info about connecting asterisk to a isdn line?`
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`20:38.05`	`NDT`	`trixter: damn cheap for home use if it ends up working descent`
`20:38.38`	`NDT`	`Who is the cheapest voip provider now with unlimited longdistance etc...that does byod? And supports asterisk?`
`20:39.50`	`Katty`	`my wisdom teeth hurt.`
`20:39.58`	`Katty`	`that's all i can tell you right now.`
`20:40.24`	`NDT`	`hehe`
`20:41.47`	`ManxPower`	`Hmm. Looks like I'm still connected.`
`20:42.08`	`ManxPower`	`NDT, no provider will do both unlimited AND BYOD`
`20:42.25`	`Katty`	`unless they're insane.`
`20:42.37`	`ManxPower`	`Katty, Well, yeah.`
`20:42.56`	`NDT`	`broadvoice says unlimited byod`
`20:43.14`	`cripito`	`broadvoice brings me bad memories`
`20:43.25`	`NDT`	`suck huh?`
`20:43.31`	`ManxPower`	`NDT, Broadvoice qualifies as "insane"`
`20:43.34`	`Katty`	`i just want painkillers.`
`20:43.36`	`cripito`	`but very bad memories`
`20:44.17`	`cripito`	`i took me a min to disconnect my did and 3 months to stop the payments and 3 chargebacks`
`20:44.25`	`NDT`	`jesus`
`20:44.29`	`Katty`	`Broadvoice should come with painkillers.`
`20:44.34`	`Katty`	`Lifetime supply, at no extra cost.`
`20:44.47`	`NDT`	`trying to think of how to get lower then $24.99 vonage`
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`20:44.50`	`cripito`	`and they said was my issue :D i switch provider not more issues`
`20:45.22`	`cripito`	`katty u are right the are insane`
`20:45.39`	`NDT`	`I can't find if vonage softphone account give you unlimited incomming or not`
`20:46.21`	`seele_`	`I need someone that explains me Step-by-Step configuring a Polycom 501 via web`
`20:46.41`	`seele_`	`the voip-info.org is pretty incomplete`
`20:46.46`	`Katty`	`seele_: about what?`
`20:46.50`	`cripito`	`via web is super easy...`
`20:47.00`	`Katty`	`seele_: what goes where?`
`20:47.10`	`seele_`	`Katty, Yes thats it`
`20:47.37`	`seele_`	`Katty, filling the blanks`
`20:48.05`	`Katty`	`seele_: i learned by just tinkering about`
`20:48.07`	`[av]bani`	`anyone have an SPA-941?`
`20:48.08`	`seele_`	`For instance what should i put in NAT`
`20:48.12`	`Katty`	`seele_: if you have a specific question, i may be able to help`
`20:48.54`	`seele_`	`Katty, thanks katty help me with this: i just changed the NAT addres via Web putting there the IP of m y asterisk`
`20:49.00`	`Katty`	`seele_: i think that's under "network"`
`20:49.20`	`Katty`	`seele_: or it is under mine, anyway`
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`20:49.22`	`seele_`	`Katty, by doing that the phone turned unable to make calls`
`20:49.28`	`Katty`	`seele_: but mine aren't 501s, they're 500s.`
`20:49.46`	`seele_`	`Katty, does not matter 501 and 500 beahve the same way`
`20:49.48`	`cripito`	`they are basically the same`
`20:49.55`	`cripito`	`and the website is easy in both`
`20:49.59`	`seele_`	`Katty, they have the same config "menu"`
`20:50.07`	`cripito`	`just sucks u have to wait a lot to comes up`
`20:50.23`	`Katty`	`seele_: well mine is under Network and then NAT`
`20:50.24`	`seele_`	`thats right but there are options that does not appear on the phone \`
`20:50.32`	`Katty`	`seele_: and i also have nat=yes`
`20:50.38`	`seele_`	`Katty, what.. the Asterisk IP??`
`20:50.54`	`Katty`	`seele_: we don't use a nat here.`
`20:51.02`	`Katty`	`seele_: but that's where the settings go.`
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`20:51.24`	`seele_`	`Katty, neither we do but i've been trying to make this thing to work`
`20:51.27`	`Katty`	`hey mike.`
`20:51.37`	`Katty`	`seele_: then if you don't have a nat, why are you trying to use one?`
`20:52.05`	`seele_`	`Katty, i've been switching between recieve and dont make calls, then making them and not recieving.`
`20:52.24`	`seele_`	`Katty, I just want my phones to recieve and make calls`
`20:52.32`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`hello`
`20:53.09`	`seele_`	`So.. in the network settings i put the correct IP Gateway, which is my net Gateway.. but then the time goes nuts`
`20:53.57`	`seele_`	`Katty, if i put under IP Gateway, the Asterisk IP it makes it available for recieving calls and no making them, plus it shows the wrong time`
`20:54.15`	`Katty`	`seele_: you need to change the time on the phone, and in the web address thing.`
`20:54.24`	`Katty`	`seele_: our time is controlled by one of our servers.`
`20:54.41`	`ManxPower`	`If you set nat=yes in sip.conf then DO NOT enable any NAT stuff on your SIP device (except for any kind of "NAT Keep Alive", that's OK)`
`20:54.59`	`Katty`	`seele_: for ours, it's "Lines" then "Server 1" and "Address" where asterisk's IP is.`
`20:55.21`	`seele_`	`Katty, Ok but time is the less important thing here, what should i put in RTP port?? in Network?`
`20:55.53`	`ManxPower`	`seele_, for the polycoms you only need to change like 5 options from the default.`
`20:56.09`	`ManxPower`	`don't fiddle with NAT, RTP ports, etc.`
`20:56.27`	`Katty`	`seele_: yeah, what's in there is fine.`
`20:56.29`	`seele_`	`Katty, I'll tell you how my Network Settings: DCHP client Disabled`
`20:56.40`	`ManxPower`	`Just put in the registration userid pass server and the line userid pass and server`
`20:56.44`	`ManxPower`	`seele_, Why did you do that??`
`20:56.57`	`seele_`	`we have statics IP's`
`20:57.18`	`seele_`	`ManxPower, Statics IP's`
`20:57.19`	`ManxPower`	`Your network admin is a newbie?`
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`20:57.32`	`seele_`	`THATS RIGHT`
`20:57.33`	`Katty`	`ManxPower: ours are static too.`
`20:57.39`	`Katty`	`ManxPower: and i like it that way.`
`20:57.42`	`Exiles`	`anyone using asterik@home`
`20:57.51`	`ManxPower`	`Katty, until you have to renumber your network.`
`20:57.58`	`seele_`	`Katty, so instead of disabled.. enabled??`
`20:58.01`	`ManxPower`	`Exiles, some people do, but they don't admit it here.`
`20:58.06`	`Exiles`	`I had it working somewhat, and I just killed it when I changed the`
`20:58.09`	`ManxPower`	`try #amportal or something like that.`
`20:58.16`	`Katty`	`ManxPower: probably, but considering we only have 13 machines here...heh`
`20:58.30`	`Katty`	`ManxPower: and the extensions match up with IPs`
`20:58.37`	`Katty`	`seele_: i have dhcp disabled too.`
`20:58.41`	`Exiles`	`I changed my trunk name, and now my calls are no longer answerd`
`20:58.43`	`ManxPower`	`Katty, Ah. for such a tiny network I guess it's not quite so crazy.`
`20:58.52`	`Exiles`	`and I'm not sure how to fix it.`
`20:59.08`	`ManxPower`	`Even our PRINT SERVERS are on DHCP.`
`20:59.11`	`Katty`	`ManxPower: nope.`
`20:59.16`	`Katty`	`ManxPower: eww.`
`20:59.41`	`seele_`	`Katty, well then..? why did you tell me it was not necesary`
`20:59.54`	`ManxPower`	`Katty, We have the DHCP server always issue the same IP address to each printer (based on MAC)`
`20:59.59`	`Katty`	`seele_: huh?`
`21:00.11`	`seele_`	`Katty, forget it...`
`21:00.17`	`Katty`	`kthx.`
`21:00.23`	`seele_`	`Katty, main problem`
`21:00.24`	`Katty`	`ManxPower: ah.`
`21:00.39`	`Katty`	`ManxPower: we only have 4 printers here.`
`21:00.45`	`seele_`	`Katty, they dont make calls but do recieve them`
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`21:00.48`	`Katty`	`ManxPower: well 4 physical printers...about 18 otherwise.`
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`21:00.58`	`seele_`	`Katty, or the other way around`
`21:01.00`	`Katty`	`ManxPower: nighttime printing, etc.`
`21:01.06`	`NDT`	`Is there a way that if a call comes through on call waiting asterisk would ring a softphone and 2 people could be on at once? 1 on the original call and one on the one that came in on callwaiting?`
`21:01.14`	`ManxPower`	`Katty, Gosh no!`
`21:01.24`	`seele_`	`Katty,Does de DNS and the Alt DNS have to do with this??`
`21:01.31`	`Katty`	`seele_: that's for routing`
`21:01.42`	`Katty`	`seele_: my primary dns is the ip address of the main server, which routes things about.`
`21:01.55`	`seele_`	`Katty, that's exactly the same here`
`21:02.04`	`seele_`	`Katty, and in DNS Domain??`
`21:02.18`	`Katty`	`seele_: are you on a domain?`
`21:02.52`	`seele_`	`Katty, Nop`
`21:03.07`	`Katty`	`seele_: then leave it blank.`
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`21:03.23`	`seele_`	`Katty, I'm just checking everything i've trying to make this work from monday`
`21:03.32`	`Katty`	`k`
`21:03.49`	`seele_`	`Katty, Well then lets got o lines..`
`21:04.44`	`seele_`	`Katty, One more thing.. Primary DNS and IP Gateway are the same in this case right??`
`21:04.54`	`Katty`	`i don't know.`
`21:04.58`	`Katty`	`Depends on your setup`
`21:05.02`	`seele_`	`Katty, They're both the router`
`21:05.08`	`Katty`	`our firewall is our gateway...the gateway is what goes out of the building`
`21:05.48`	`seele_`	`Katty, In line 1 for example.. Addres`
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`21:06.10`	`Katty`	`seele_: on the web interface?`
`21:06.20`	`seele_`	`Katty, The ext number as goes on the asterisk.. Label:..?? what goes here?, Type:Shared`
`21:06.24`	`seele_`	`No in the phone`
`21:06.42`	`Katty`	`I always make the label the same as the display name`
`21:06.44`	`seele_`	`Katty, Third Party Name:.. what goes here?`
`21:06.49`	`Katty`	`and the same as the third party name as well`
`21:07.11`	`seele_`	`Katty, not on the web... in the phone`
`21:07.54`	`Katty`	`my display name is Angela`
`21:07.57`	`seele_`	`i thought Third Party was an ip number (dumb)`
`21:07.59`	`Katty`	`my address is the same as my userid`
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`21:08.04`	`Katty`	`the [blah]`
`21:08.10`	`Katty`	`label is Angela`
`21:08.11`	`Katty`	`type is private`
`21:08.26`	`Katty`	`third party name is Angela`
`21:08.42`	`Katty`	`auth user id is obviously your userid`
`21:08.50`	`Katty`	`auth password is obviously your secret`
`21:08.52`	`seele_`	`katty, yes thats ok so far`
`21:08.59`	`Katty`	`k`
`21:09.09`	`tzanger`	`I dunno about you but I'd make a pretty funny looking Angela`
`21:09.17`	`tzanger`	`although my mom said if I was a girl she'd have named me Jennifer`
`21:09.22`	`tzanger`	`I'm really glad I'm not a girl`
`21:09.28`	`Katty`	`tzanger: it's ok you're not a girl dear.`
`21:09.31`	`Katty`	`tzanger: i love you anyway.`
`21:09.44`	`tzanger`	`stop that you're gonna make me blush`
`21:09.45`	`seele_`	`Katty, In server, register: yes or no?`
`21:09.47`	`Katty`	`k`
`21:11.00`	`Katty`	`Yes`
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`21:11.43`	`seele_`	`katty, OK i'm making calls out, but not recieving them`
`21:12.20`	`seele_`	`Katty, also when i look under status, lines, all 3 appear (not registered)`
`21:12.41`	`Katty`	`then you should register them with asterisk`
`21:12.45`	`seele_`	`Katty, and when taking the handset it says: URL call disabled`
`21:12.49`	`Katty`	`asterisk can't route to anyone if it doesn't know where to go.`
`21:13.04`	`dahunter`	`Fresh install of asterisk@home 2.2, show zap status doesn't list my zaptel channels module is loaded, card lights are lit... chan_zap.so is loaded... but use count is 0. Any clues?`
`21:13.36`	`seele_`	`Katty, How exactly to do that. (newbie, please be patient)`
`21:13.54`	`Katty`	`do take your sip conf..`
`21:13.59`	`Katty`	`with your username and password information..`
`21:14.19`	`Katty`	`and then you can put that information into up to 3 of those lines.`
`21:14.21`	`seele_`	`Katty, yes...`
`21:14.59`	`Katty`	`i usually use the web interface for that.`
`21:15.13`	`seele_`	`Katty, another thing.. outbound proxy, and server, under SIP configuration in the phone...are they the same?`
`21:15.50`	`Katty`	`Server Address is asterisk.........we don't have an outbound proxy, so i left it blank.`
`21:16.32`	`dahunter`	`asterisk1*CLI> zap show status`
`21:16.33`	`dahunter`	`Description Alarms IRQ bpviol CRC4`
`21:16.36`	`dahunter`	`Wildcard TDM400P REV E/F Board 1 OK 0 0 0`
`21:16.37`	`seele_`	`Katty, wait a minute.. i've got all my 3 lines configured by web they look fien`
`21:17.04`	`seele_`	`Katty, what's qualify in web interface??`
`21:17.10`	`cripito`	`question... any change in the dialogic driver?`
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`21:18.07`	`Katty`	`seele_: where are you looking at qualify?`
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`21:18.21`	`seele_`	`Katty, in extensions`
`21:18.47`	`Katty`	`seele_: you mean the individual registrations?`
`21:20.05`	`seele_`	`katty, i just see under my SIP extension of the Poly a line that says qualify:no`
`21:20.14`	`seele_`	`Katty, i dont know wtf is that`
`21:21.09`	`Katty`	`seele_: dunno, it's not on mine.`
`21:21.44`	`seele_`	`Katty, ok.. well so far it stills the same.. making out not in`
`21:22.43`	`seele_`	`Katty, registering sip extens in Asterisk is just adding them in the web manager right?`
`21:22.48`	`_DAW`	`hello everyone`
`21:27.50`	`seele_`	`but im a newbie.. i have to`
`21:27.56`	`Katty`	`cripito: silly ftper.`
`21:28.06`	`Katty`	`seele_: can you call your extensions?`
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`21:30.31`	`cripito`	`katty not really i use help :P but is not a web manager`
`21:30.32`	`cripito`	`http://www.cripiland.com/screenshots/manager1.jpg`
`21:30.43`	`seele_`	`Katty, i can call but my poly does not recieve`
`21:33.27`	`cripito`	`seele_ check ur dialplan`
`21:33.56`	`seele_`	`cripito, what to check??`
`21:34.24`	`JonR800`	`heh if you don't know how to use asterisk itself, then you're stuck when it comes to troubleshooting`
`21:34.24`	`seele_`	`Katty, http://pastebin.com/484624 Look there is my sip.conf`
`21:34.32`	`JonR800`	`a web manager can not help you there :)`
`21:34.42`	`seele_`	`JonR800, i'm learning..`
`21:34.52`	`cripito`	`seele_ u need the sip.conf to register the phones`
`21:35.03`	`cripito`	`and the extensions for dial in to`
`21:35.08`	`cripito`	`jonr800 not really`
`21:35.13`	`seele_`	`cripito, see my sip.conf? http://pastebin.com/484624`
`21:35.15`	`cripito`	`a manager cna help a lot`
`21:35.21`	`seele_`	`cripito, i think is fine`
`21:35.32`	`JonR800`	`cripito: but at a certain point the manager becomes a burden.`
`21:35.45`	`cripito`	`seele_ i don't think that problem is in ur sip.conf`
`21:35.53`	`cripito`	`check extensions.conf in the wiki`
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`21:36.08`	`De_Mon`	`so long as extensions.conf has the context written in sip.conf that can bork phone registration?`
`21:36.20`	`De_Mon`	`s/that/what/`
`21:36.32`	`De_Mon`	`username/password asside`
`21:37.49`	`cripito`	`seele_ context=from-internal`
`21:37.58`	`cripito`	`so in extensions u will need somthing like`
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`21:38.42`	`seele_`	`cripito, like what?`
`21:38.59`	`cripito`	`like this http://pastebin.com/484633`
`21:39.05`	`cripito`	`that's the min that u need`
`21:39.25`	`cripito`	`check the wiki`
`21:39.29`	`cripito`	`for extensions.conf`
`21:39.45`	`cripito`	`and i am pretty sure that the extension.conf.sample have a lot of examples that u can use`
`21:39.47`	`seele_`	`cripito, i'look in to it thnx`
`21:40.15`	`cripito`	`JohnR basically is doing static setup ... he is not using a manager`
`21:40.28`	`cripito`	`manager sometimes are tricky to install :D`
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`21:46.11`	`JonR800`	`lol`
`21:46.36`	`JonR800`	`or there are no decent managers to fit my needs.. either way :)`
`21:46.53`	`cripito`	`JohnR check this out http://www.cripiland.com/screenshots/manager1.jpg`
`21:47.38`	`De_Mon`	`editpad?`
`21:47.50`	`De_Mon`	`is it anything like gvim`
`21:47.59`	`JonR800`	`^- nod`
`21:48.00`	`cripito`	`:) editpad is nices`
`21:48.02`	`JonR800`	`it looks nice`
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`21:48.25`	`cripito`	`there is 3 interfaces missing in that screenshot`
`21:48.34`	`cripito`	`devices (SIP/IAX)`
`21:48.41`	`cripito`	`dialplan :D`
`21:48.55`	`De_Mon`	`does it do regex paternmatching n macros like vim?`
`21:49.04`	`cripito`	`and queues`
`21:49.12`	`cripito`	`editpad is for windows`
`21:49.26`	`cripito`	`is a nice sustitute for notepad`
`21:49.49`	`slappingt`	`what do linux distro do you all use?`
`21:49.52`	`De_Mon`	`regexbuddy? :] I need that`
`21:49.53`	`JonR800`	`i still feel like you lose a LOT of flexibility. (multiple servers, ser, etc) with most managers`
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`21:51.03`	`cripito`	`it depends`
`21:51.09`	`cripito`	`multiple servers`
`21:51.15`	`cripito`	`astmanproxy support that`
`21:51.30`	`cripito`	`u can monitor multiples asterisk servers at the same time`
`21:51.33`	`cripito`	`ser true`
`21:51.39`	`cripito`	`nothing for the moment`
`21:52.00`	`slappingt`	`can you guys suggest a good Linux distro for Asterisk`
`21:52.11`	`JonR800`	`slappingt: whatever you're most comfortable with.`
`21:52.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:52.53`	`slappingt`	`been using Ubuntu but I am having to compile all kinds of libraries before Asterisk`
`21:53.17`	`JonR800`	`Ubuntu is intended more as a single user distro.`
`21:53.30`	`JonR800`	`More desktop than server.. that would be why`
`21:53.43`	`cripito`	`i have gentoo, fedora,astlinux`
`21:54.04`	`cripito`	`if is not for me ... i use fedora`
`21:55.06`	`slappingt`	`Ok, I think I need to go with something other than Ubuntu then.`
`21:56.06`	`fugitivo`	`ubuntu is crap`
`21:56.11`	`JonR800`	`lol`
`21:56.25`	`fugitivo`	`well, gnome is crap`
`21:56.31`	`cripito`	`:)))))))`
`21:56.35`	`JonR800`	`Kubuntu is nice then?`
`21:56.38`	`fugitivo`	`but if i say that i'll start a window manager war and i don't want that`
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`21:56.50`	`JonR800`	`fugitivo: hey Linus Torvalds has your back`
`21:57.17`	`fugitivo`	`torvalds is evil`
`21:57.40`	`JonR800`	`Why's that?`
`21:57.46`	`cripito`	`fugitivo ... not for me at least.. i have boths :P`
`21:58.06`	`slappingt`	`fugitivo when you switch someone from Winblows to Ubuntu it is not crap`
`21:58.30`	`fugitivo`	`a thing written with so many u's is evil`
`21:58.48`	`slappingt`	`at least I am not cleaning spyware off of peoples computers as much`
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`21:59.31`	`JonR800`	`haha u = 6`
`21:59.39`	`JonR800`	`6b6nt6`
`22:00.19`	`fugitivo`	`rigth`
`22:00.22`	`br00ksh1r3`	`e17!`
`22:00.32`	`br00ksh1r3`	`the only real window manager ;)`
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`22:01.03`	`cripito`	`yeap! yeap!!`
`22:01.22`	`JonR800`	`i ran E back at like.. E14.. that may have been a decade ago..`
`22:02.42`	`br00ksh1r3`	`i ran e when it was the only window manager`
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`22:03.07`	`br00ksh1r3`	`well.. there was that, afterstep, and twm`
`22:03.49`	`JonR800`	`from the faq: Why hasn't Enlightenment had a new major release in 3 years!?!`
`22:03.58`	`Secup`	`Hello`
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`22:09.28`	`Tekmaven`	`hey guys`
`22:09.41`	`Tekmaven`	`anyone having problems with Broadvoice recently?`
`22:11.16`	`cripito`	`:D fortunatelly we dump bv`
`22:12.55`	`Tekmaven`	`lol`
`22:13.20`	`Tekmaven`	`Dec 30 17:12:58 NOTICE[5322]: chan_sip.c:4073 sip_reg_timeout: -- Registration for 'xxxxxxxxxx@sip.broadvoice.com@sip.broadvoice.com' timed out, trying again`
`22:13.45`	`br00ksh1r3`	`two @'s?`
`22:13.51`	`br00ksh1r3`	`omg!`
`22:13.59`	`file`	`br00ksh1r3: OMG BROOKSHIRE!`
`22:14.00`	`Tekmaven`	`that is what they tell you to do in the config`
`22:14.04`	`Tekmaven`	`stupid, i know`
`22:14.08`	`br00ksh1r3`	`omg josh!`
`22:14.10`	`Tekmaven`	`but it worked for like... 3 months +`
`22:14.17`	`file`	`how are you Mattttttttttt`
`22:14.22`	`br00ksh1r3`	`ehh`
`22:14.29`	`br00ksh1r3`	`<-- my day off`
`22:14.38`	`file`	`and you hang out in here?`
`22:14.40`	`file`	`'tsk 'tsk`
`22:14.45`	`br00ksh1r3`	`hehe`
`22:14.50`	`file`	`you should be out and about!`
`22:14.51`	`br00ksh1r3`	`asterisk is my life`
`22:14.58`	`br00ksh1r3`	`well.. i was going to wash the car`
`22:15.07`	`file`	`why wash it, when you can blow it up?`
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`22:15.45`	`br00ksh1r3`	`but the car wash line of cars was wrapped out into a busy street`
`22:16.18`	`Tekmaven`	`sigh`
`22:16.33`	`Tekmaven`	`im using Asterisk 1.0.9`
`22:16.39`	`file`	`br00ksh1r3: you should strike a pose`
`22:16.39`	`Tekmaven`	`any reason why i should upgrade? ;)`
`22:16.56`	`file`	`Tekmaven: is it working fine?`
`22:17.00`	`Tekmaven`	`well, it was`
`22:17.03`	`br00ksh1r3`	`yes.. 1.2 is a lot better`
`22:17.05`	`Tekmaven`	`until broadvoice went awall`
`22:17.08`	`file`	`ah`
`22:17.13`	`Tekmaven`	`well, im not using anything really advanced`
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`22:17.21`	`[av]bani`	`anyone using the GXP-2000 ?`
`22:17.23`	`br00ksh1r3`	`1.2 is still better`
`22:17.25`	`cripito`	`lot lot lot lot better`
`22:17.27`	`Tekmaven`	`one ptsn, and two iaxys`
`22:17.29`	`file`	`yeah go for 1.2 then`
`22:17.32`	`Tekmaven`	`but, what's better about it?`
`22:17.39`	`br00ksh1r3`	`everything`
`22:17.41`	`file`	`vastly different codebase now, lots of bug fixes`
`22:17.42`	`Tekmaven`	`like, in three months - it hasn't crashed once, etc`
`22:17.54`	`file`	`Tekmaven: so try 1.2, if it fails - revert`
`22:17.56`	`file`	`revert revert revert`
`22:17.59`	`benjk`	`many people have problems with 1.2 and need help, brings more business in`
`22:18.00`	`saftsack`	`hugo-v6, hi are you here?`
`22:18.02`	`Tekmaven`	`well, im not that linux advanced`
`22:18.11`	`Tekmaven`	`i wouldnt know how to revert ;)`
`22:18.19`	`Tekmaven`	`i would end up formatting the shit, and starting from scratch lol`
`22:18.31`	`br00ksh1r3`	`Tekmaven: no reason to do that`
`22:18.42`	`Tekmaven`	`well, i have a wack install already`
`22:18.43`	`br00ksh1r3`	`i'm sure if it still won't work.. someone in here can help you`
`22:18.56`	`Tekmaven`	`yeah, way back when you guys helped me too ;)`
`22:18.58`	`file`	`br00ksh1r3: I see you baby, shakin' that phone!`
`22:19.24`	`Tekmaven`	`i did a lot of reading back then, and understood the basics`
`22:19.36`	`br00ksh1r3`	`wow! james bond is still on!`
`22:19.37`	`Tekmaven`	`but the dialplan and all that crap is like the most confusing shit ever`
`22:19.41`	`br00ksh1r3`	`008 days of 007`
`22:19.50`	`file`	`Tekmaven: warp your mind, it's easiest`
`22:20.06`	`benjk`	`apropos James Bond, they are having very serious trouble finding a new bond girl`
`22:20.31`	`Tekmaven`	`lol okay`
`22:20.48`	`benjk`	`only one month to go before they start shooting and all the actresses they asked didn't want the role`
`22:21.04`	`file`	`cp /usr/src/asterisk /dev/brain/Tekmaven`
`22:21.04`	`Tekmaven`	`wow, this is the most non-asterisk talk i've ever seen :-P`
`22:21.25`	`file`	`Tekmaven: I've been here awhile, I can talk non-asterisk ^.^`
`22:21.30`	`Tekmaven`	`yeah ;)`
`22:21.33`	`benjk`	`you should have been here two nights ago, when we have a discussion about milk`
`22:21.38`	`Tekmaven`	`hah!`
`22:21.46`	`Tekmaven`	`any of you guys going to CES?`
`22:21.46`	`benjk`	`it turned the channel into #lacto-asterisk`
`22:21.52`	`file`	`CES? nope`
`22:22.00`	`Tekmaven`	`awh`
`22:22.05`	`Tekmaven`	`i'll be there [g]`
`22:22.16`	`benjk`	`and some guy asked "isn't this where I can ask about asterisk, the open source PBX?"`
`22:22.22`	`br00ksh1r3`	`you know... i love milk`
`22:22.31`	`Tekmaven`	`what distro do you reccomend for asterisk?`
`22:22.38`	`benjk`	`and somebody said "no, for that you have to go to #asterisk, this is #lacto-asterisk"`
`22:22.55`	`benjk`	`and the guy bought it and left the channel :D`
`22:23.00`	`Tekmaven`	`hah`
`22:23.09`	`benjk`	`two mins later he was back`
`22:23.19`	`benjk`	`that was hilarious`
`22:23.59`	`Tekmaven`	`can anyone answer my distro question? ;)`
`22:24.10`	`benjk`	`whichever you are comfortable with`
`22:24.13`	`Tekmaven`	`bleh`
`22:24.20`	`benjk`	`seriously`
`22:24.29`	`eKo1`	`I'm getting: Got SIP response 481 "Call Leg Does Not Exist" back from 192.168.100.101 when sending a call to another Asterisk through SIP.`
`22:24.44`	`Tekmaven`	`last time i did all this shit... fedora 4 was new, and I started using that - and there was some kernel problem`
`22:24.48`	`Tekmaven`	`and i had to go to fedora 3`
`22:24.53`	`benjk`	`eKo1: seems to be a NAT traversal problem`
`22:24.59`	`eKo1`	`and in the other Asterisk I'm getting: chan_sip.c:7353 handle_request: Failed to authenticate user "eKo1" <sip:310@172.16.0.14>;tag=as7644d98b`
`22:25.00`	`file`	`feels like hello!`
`22:25.06`	`file`	`heaven is closer, heaven is closer`
`22:25.14`	`eKo1`	`why is it trying to authenticate?`
`22:25.14`	`PakiPenguin`	`can someone help me with a call file`
`22:25.25`	`file`	`eKo1: is 310 a user entry in sip.conf?`
`22:25.30`	`file`	`on the target asterisk box?`
`22:25.36`	`file`	`or a peer without insecure=very?`
`22:25.36`	`eKo1`	`nope`
`22:25.48`	`PakiPenguin`	`i want to call $ext ( passed from the web) and then patch it up to a local extension`
`22:25.49`	`benjk`	`that's why`
`22:25.55`	`eKo1`	`it's a user in the sip.conf in the source asterisk box`
`22:26.19`	`file`	`eKo1: oh that error is occuring on the local box before it hits the dialplan?`
`22:27.09`	`Tekmaven`	`hmm, why is 1.2.1 hard masked on gentoo?`
`22:27.20`	`eKo1`	`the "Call Leg Does Not Exist" occures on the * box @ 172.16.0.14`
`22:27.38`	`file`	`eKo1: if you give me full sip debugs on each box I can tell you why`
`22:28.12`	`eKo1`	`hmm...this is going to be difficult. i have a lot of traffic on one of the boxes`
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`22:28.28`	`eKo1`	`lets see`
`22:28.36`	`eKo1`	`*let's`
`22:28.42`	`benjk`	`eKo1: you can filter the sip debug to just the target machine`
`22:29.00`	`file`	`sip debug ip, sip debug peer`
`22:29.29`	`ms345`	`anyone know how to enable/disable the alternate greeting in voicemail ? <ducks before people realize it may be a a@h only feature>`
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`22:29.57`	`eKo1`	`ok, let me put it in pastebin`
`22:30.25`	`benjk`	`ms345: #amportal`
`22:31.10`	`ms345`	`benjk - thx, will try there`
`22:31.38`	`groogs`	`has anyone used an RCA 25001RE2 conference phone? ordered one off ebay, and it doesn't seem to be full-duplex.. not sure if this one is broken, or if its just plain old not full-duplex`
`22:34.38`	`Ariel_`	`groogs, there are allot of older conference phones that were 1/2 duplex due to echo.`
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`22:35.37`	`groogs`	`Ariel_: this thing is advertised as full duplex though. i could only find one review on the web though that said "performed well.. wish it had one cord to combine power + telco"`
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`22:36.14`	`groogs`	`i'm tempted to go buy another one locally, see if it does the same, and then return it`
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`22:36.43`	`eKo1`	`here you go: http://pastebin.ca/35332`
`22:37.40`	`ManxPower`	`You'd think that 4 MONTHS after Katrina there would be some hotel rooms within 300 miles of New Orleans, but you'd be wrong.`
`22:38.38`	`Nugget`	`heh`
`22:38.38`	`ManxPower`	`groogs, "RCA" phones are usually "Radio Shack" phones and they tend to be crap.`
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`22:40.35`	`Ariel_`	`ManxPower, I just read that some Casino in Miss, opened and have rooms.`
`22:40.59`	`ManxPower`	`Ariel_, which one?`
`22:41.04`	`br00ksh1r3`	`i didn't think they could have casinos in miss.. only boats`
`22:41.10`	`groogs`	`ManxPower: yeah. this one looked alright though http://www.phonesonsale.com/ge-25001re2.html`
`22:41.17`	`ManxPower`	`br00ksh1r3, they removed that restriction after Katrina`
`22:41.24`	`br00ksh1r3`	`ahh`
`22:41.27`	`br00ksh1r3`	`lame`
`22:41.34`	`Ariel_`	`don't remember it was on the radio here. In Buluxie??/ I think. I know it's spelled wrong`
`22:42.16`	`ManxPower`	`Biloxi`
`22:42.26`	`Ariel_`	`ad said there open and have the tables in the hotel now and not on the boat...hehe`
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`22:44.10`	`ManxPower`	`Many things in New Orleans are opening back up, but there are no people.`
`22:44.51`	`Ariel_`	`if you make it they will come`
`22:45.46`	`ManxPower`	`Once school opened back up and not a single student showed up.`
`22:46.44`	`Ariel_`	`Well 2005 was a year of many strange things. But it's almost over.....`
`22:47.19`	`br00ksh1r3`	`i liked 2005 :/`
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`22:50.14`	`ManxPower`	`I really don't want to have to drive all the way to new orleans in one da`
`22:50.21`	`ManxPower`	`day`
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`23:02.53`	`malverian[work]`	`When I convert my wav files into GSM, for some reason it adds a "chshk" at the end of them.`
`23:03.07`	`malverian[work]`	`Like the sound of someone blowing into a microphone..`
`23:03.11`	`malverian[work]`	`And it's not there in the original wav.`
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`23:03.47`	`trixter`	`sounds like a bad frame`
`23:04.02`	`malverian[work]`	`But it's every single one.`
`23:04.02`	`trixter`	`wav files shouldnt have frames because of the way they are done, but the output might ... I dunno`
`23:04.39`	`malverian[work]`	`I've fixed the problem before, but I forget how..`
`23:04.51`	`malverian[work]`	`I had to do something special to each individual file before converting them..`
`23:05.17`	`malverian[work]`	`For some reason my audacity no longer has the ability to export to wav, ..nice.`
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`23:10.25`	`groogs`	`malverian[work]: how did you convert them?`
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`23:10.46`	`malverian[work]`	`groogs, Per the wiki.`
`23:10.57`	`groogs`	`sox?`
`23:11.37`	`malverian[work]`	`groogs, Yes.`
`23:11.45`	`cripito`	`ok now that u talk about sox... any text to speech aparts of festival?`
`23:11.50`	`malverian[work]`	`It's a 44kHz mono wav file (32 bit)`
`23:12.02`	`cripito`	`the quality of the voice in festival.. ejem`
`23:12.12`	`cripito`	`s....`
`23:12.30`	`cripito`	`and cepstral.... s too...`
`23:13.04`	`[av]bani`	`anyone use grandstream gxp-2000 ?`
`23:13.06`	`malverian[work]`	`cripito, Tried AT&T natural voices?`
`23:13.21`	`groogs`	`yeah that one sounds the best, i think`
`23:13.41`	`groogs`	`but i think it's many $$$`
`23:14.02`	`malverian[work]`	`groogs, Shouldn't I be able to export to wav with audacity?`
`23:14.10`	`cripito`	`not i didn't tried...`
`23:14.15`	`malverian[work]`	`Surely export to RAW is not what i want...`
`23:14.16`	`cripito`	`let see`
`23:14.39`	`cripito`	`anyone integrated that in asterisk?`
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`23:14.55`	`malverian[work]`	`cripito, No.. it's really expensive`
`23:15.23`	`Tekmaven`	`hey again`
`23:15.32`	`Tekmaven`	`would asterisk work better in a dual proc machine?`
`23:15.54`	`Tekmaven`	`like, is it going to run on both cpus? or just only use one?`
`23:15.56`	`cripito`	`295.00 the voice !!!`
`23:16.31`	`malverian[work]`	`~1700$`
`23:16.38`	`cripito`	`that's the server`
`23:16.42`	`malverian[work]`	`Tekmaven, It's multithreaded, so probably.`
`23:17.11`	`Tekmaven`	`okay :)`
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`23:18.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : Grandstream = suck.`
`23:19.34`	`twisty7867`	`that's not the first message you like to see go past when you join the channel considering to set up a PBX with GXP2000`
`23:19.45`	`groogs`	`malverian[work]: i would think so.. :p`
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`23:20.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`twisty7867 : Actually wouldn't it be a good thing to know BEFORE doing it then? ;)`
`23:20.41`	`malverian[work]`	`WTF is wrong with my Audacity..`
`23:20.42`	`malverian[work]`	`Fuck.`
`23:21.26`	`groogs`	`malverian[work]: is it greyed out, or just not there?`
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`23:21.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`twisty7867 : What kind of deployment you looking to implement?`
`23:22.28`	`file[laptop]`	`[TK]D-Fender: !!!`
`23:22.29`	`twisty7867`	`at this time, a basic office PBX. 11 extensions, 2 POTS lines + some new voip circuits`
`23:22.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`file[laptop]: !!!`
`23:22.51`	`file[laptop]`	`[TK]D-Fender: ...hi`
`23:22.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`file[laptop]: ...ditto`
`23:23.08`	`file[laptop]`	`[TK]D-Fender: ...wazzup`
`23:23.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`twisty7867 : What kind of call volume/usage? How many need speakerphone, any enhanced features required (visibly phone functionality (onscreen, etc))`
`23:24.28`	`groogs`	`twisted: you may want to look at the AMP project too`
`23:24.52`	`malverian[work]`	`groogs, Just not there.`
`23:24.55`	`twisty7867`	`moderate usage. speaker is almost irrelevant. visible #s on phones very important. dialing out through multiple different circuits`
`23:24.57`	`malverian[work]`	`groogs, And I'm pretty sure it used to be.`
`23:26.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`twisty7867 : Ok, got / looking to get PoE to power the phones? Are you planning on giving them their own port on a switch or plug them in line with a computer?`
`23:26.22`	`file[laptop]`	`drumkilla: your Russell is showing`
`23:26.27`	`drumkilla`	`lies`
`23:26.37`	`file[laptop]`	`truths`
`23:26.55`	`twisty7867`	`we don't have poe capability now. it's interesting but not important. initially, in line with PCs but theoretically we're moving to new office space where we could wire 2 drops per station`
`23:27.03`	`malverian[work]`	`"Platforms: [...]`
`23:27.03`	`malverian[work]`
`23:27.03`	`malverian[work]`	`Linux 6.1, 6.2, 7.2"`
`23:27.13`	`malverian[work]`	`Oops..`
`23:27.19`	`malverian[work]`	`I always find that humorous :-P`
`23:27.36`	`KaBewM`	`lol`
`23:27.44`	`KaBewM`	`here I am using the old 2.6`
`23:28.16`	`Tekmaven`	`lol`
`23:28.28`	`Tekmaven`	`they are using Red Hat version numbers [g]`
`23:28.31`	`mrdigital`	`anyone use FC4?`
`23:28.34`	`mrdigital`	`err`
`23:28.38`	`mrdigital`	`FC5`
`23:28.40`	`KaBewM`	`yeah I got that`
`23:29.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`twisty7867 : Ok, then for lower-end users Id suggest Polycom IP 301's, for managers the IP 501, and for a receptionist the IP 601. Here's a link to the lowest priced reseller I've seen : http://voipstore.atacomm.com/Shops/Browse.aspx/27934028032-36931336704.htm`
`23:29.17`	`QbY`	`I have my cell phone in a queue.. it treats it as though i'm a normal extension on the switch--i can hit # and transfer people out. I dial out over an IAX connection. I have another phone number in a different queue, which connects fine. However, when they hit the # key, all it does is blasts the customers ear. Where should I begin looking as to why it doesn't work for that phone number?`
`23:30.32`	`groogs`	`QbY: flags passed to Dial()`
`23:30.54`	`twisty7867`	`what makes the polycom ones 42% better than the grandstream? (just asking, I don't know either way)`
`23:30.58`	`groogs`	`QbY: i think it's t to allow transfers by hte called party`
`23:31.26`	`pifiu`	`for the queues.conf in the announce-frequency`
`23:31.35`	`pifiu`	`that paremeter affects how often the called is told what number he is?`
`23:32.40`	`QbY`	`groogs.. where would i find the flags that are passed? because I add the members to the queue the same way..`
`23:33.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`twisted : Considerably better audio and manufacturing quality. Great centralized provisioning, expansion capabilities (601) with pixel based screen (501 & 601), RJ12 standard headset jacks, and more`
`23:33.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`twisty7867 : Their speakerphones are somewhat renowned as well.`
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`23:33.23`	`groogs`	`QbY: uh, is it a custom config you did, or are you using AMP or something?`
`23:33.30`	`twisty7867`	`I am familiar.`
`23:33.38`	`cripito`	`are we talking about grandstreams?`
`23:33.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`cripito : Somewhat, I'm suggesting against them.`
`23:34.00`	`cripito`	`or the topic already died?`
`23:34.00`	`Tekmaven`	`[TK]D-Fender: is the 301 any good at all? ;)`
`23:34.23`	`cripito`	`<[TK]D-Fender> put me in the list of ppl againts`
`23:34.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Tekmaven : It has all the good qualities of its big brothers, less the speakerphone and high-pizel display. Great quality phone however.`
`23:35.07`	`QbY`	`groogs.. I used to use amp, but have since quit.. now working off what i started with with amp.`
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`23:35.26`	`Tekmaven`	`oh, 301 doesnt have speakerphone :-/`
`23:35.26`	`Tekmaven`	`lol`
`23:35.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`the 301 also wall-mounts (courtesy / emergency) amongst other nifty plusses`
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`23:35.41`	`Tekmaven`	`idk, this is my home, dunno why i'd spend 100+ on a darn phone`
`23:35.44`	`pifiu`	`polycoms are quite nice`
`23:35.46`	`twisty7867`	`we're essentially just experimenting, so price is a moderate issue. the polycoms are substantially more expensive. ($80 vs. $114-170). the 501 polycoms nearly double the price of my solution, from $1200 to $2200`
`23:35.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Tekmaven : not everyone needs it. Like call centers`
`23:36.04`	`Tekmaven`	`well, i want cool technology too ;)`
`23:36.10`	`pifiu`	`im using 501s in the office here`
`23:36.12`	`pifiu`	`very sweet`
`23:36.21`	`pifiu`	`personally i like them more than the cisco ones i was going to pick`
`23:36.23`	`twisty7867`	`yeah, we have a loft-y open air office. I would disable anyone's speaker even if the phone had it :P`
`23:36.26`	`pifiu`	`the 7940s i think they were`
`23:36.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`twisty7867 : I was looking at the cheaper stuff too, but when you do a job from scratch, I try to do it right so I don't end up replacing later.`
`23:36.45`	`pifiu`	`question sorry to interrupt`
`23:36.50`	`cripito`	`i got a callcenter with 300+ of those`
`23:36.54`	`Qwell[]`	`Get some nice SPA941's`
`23:36.55`	`cripito`	`what a nightmare`
`23:36.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I run an all-Polycom setup (26 x 600'x, 1 x 601 w/ attendant modules)`
`23:37.02`	`pifiu`	`where do i check what extensions have to ring in extensions.conf?`
`23:37.16`	`pifiu`	`only like 3 out of the 5 phones are rining for incoming. outgoing is all good`
`23:37.16`	`Qwell[]`	`pifiu: explain`
`23:37.25`	`pifiu`	`fender: polycom whore`
`23:37.32`	`[av]bani`	`fender, gxp-2000 gets relatively good reviews`
`23:37.40`	`cripito`	`<--- pifiu me 2`
`23:37.46`	`cripito`	`2000 is ok...`
`23:37.50`	`[av]bani`	`of course, you cant expect much from a $100 phone`
`23:38.01`	`cripito`	`budgetones ===:-(`
`23:38.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pifiu : I tried numerous phones during testing, and I'm in a PoE environment. I also use the XML microbrowser on mine to GREAT advantage.`
`23:38.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Showing corporate logo, live queue stats, presence in-use lists, company directory, etc...`
`23:38.34`	`[av]bani`	`fender, the 501 is pretty much pnp with * ? i mean, no major hassle to get MWI and buttons working?`
`23:38.51`	`[av]bani`	`live queue stats on polycom =:o`
`23:38.53`	`Qwell[]`	`I kinda wish the 7970s had a better browser.`
`23:39.01`	`groogs`	`Qwell: how are the 941's?`
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`23:39.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : Having used on a few times it felt like cheap shit. It looks nice from a distance, but once you get your hands on it.... ick`
`23:39.16`	`Qwell[]`	`groogs: I've not used them, but I hear they're all the rage. Ask [TK]D-Fender`
`23:39.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`groogs : I own a 941 at home. Very nice phone.`
`23:39.38`	`[av]bani`	`fender, the 501 looks tiny though.. huge handset with relatively tiny base. that worries me`
`23:39.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`The 941 is a tough comparison to the IP 501.`
`23:39.46`	`[av]bani`	`eg, the handset is bigger than the phone`
`23:39.51`	`cripito`	`ok any callcenter capable phone?`
`23:40.00`	`groogs`	`i have a bunch of 841's here.. they're.. okay, but quite a few things could be better`
`23:40.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : the 501?! I think you mean the 301`
`23:40.16`	`cripito`	`groogs spearker phone for example`
`23:40.17`	`[av]bani`	`maybe 301`
`23:40.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Yeah the 841 was pretty cheap feeling.... the 941 fixed ALL of that...`
`23:40.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`The 501 body is very mid-sized`
`23:40.44`	`[av]bani`	`too bad no dual ethernet or backlight on 941 >:(`
`23:40.53`	`groogs`	`no backlight still?`
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`23:41.01`	`ManxPower`	`This is pretty cool. I drove about 60 miles today with the laptop in the car and my SSH connections didn't drop. Some of this driving was on freeway, in town, and thru rural mountian areas`
`23:41.04`	`[av]bani`	`i mean, grandstream can do dual ether and backlight for $100.. why cant sipura for $150 ?`
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`23:41.20`	`Qwell[]`	`ManxPower: Cell?`
`23:41.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`groogs : The only good point on the Grandstream is it is the only phone that I've seen witha backlight.`
`23:41.31`	`[av]bani`	`fender -> and pivot display`
`23:41.36`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell, Verizon 1XRTT CDMA`
`23:41.45`	`[av]bani`	`not even the polycoms have a pivot`
`23:41.48`	`groogs`	`PoE would be good`
`23:41.48`	`[av]bani`	`>:(`
`23:41.59`	`Qwell[]`	`ManxPower: How's the speed?`
`23:42.12`	`groogs`	`dual ethernet .. yeah.. its simple, so why not.. but personally, i run everything with cat5e and rj45's`
`23:42.19`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell, 56K - 114K`
`23:42.24`	`groogs`	`and run two everywhere`
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`23:42.34`	`[av]bani`	`fender, besides construction is the gxp-2000 functionality ok?`
`23:42.39`	`ManxPower`	`You realize that the GS phones Dual Ethernet is 10Mbps only, right?`
`23:42.56`	`twisty7867`	`thoughts on mixed phone vendors? i.e. get some GXP-2000 to start up and then edge in better phones as budget/acceptance permits?`
`23:43.01`	`ManxPower`	`maybe they fixed that with the GXP.`
`23:43.05`	`[av]bani`	`manx -> http://www.grandstream.com/y-gxp2000.htm 10/100`
`23:43.08`	`twisty7867`	`the GXP2000 is 10/100`
`23:43.15`	`ManxPower`	`twisty7867, don't mix vendors.`
`23:43.18`	`Qwell[]`	`new ciscos are 10/100/1000 :D`
`23:43.30`	`ManxPower`	`buy one of each phone, deploy them to test users, decide on a vendor stick with it.`
`23:43.30`	`Tekmaven`	`does 1.2.x support MySql out of the box?`
`23:43.37`	`groogs`	`meh, switches are pretty cheap anyways`
`23:43.46`	`Qwell[]`	`Tekmaven: You need to use odbc, or install asterisk-addons`
`23:43.58`	`twisty7867`	`manx: if I was the telecom guy I might do that, as the telecom/finance/asp.net guy it's less tempting`
`23:44.08`	`[av]bani`	`fender -> http://www.polycom.com/products_services/1,,pw-182-3025,00.html handset is taller than the phone...`
`23:44.15`	`Tekmaven`	`twisty7867: im an asp.net guy too :-P`
`23:44.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : well I find the natural angle on the polys' and the 941 don't seem to need the pivot. The GXP being a flat phone requires it.`
`23:44.30`	`ManxPower`	`twisty7867, You don't want to have several provisioning methods`
`23:44.54`	`twisty7867`	`what does that mean to me? (I am genuinely interested, not being sarcastic)`
`23:44.57`	`groogs`	`ManxPower: automate. automate. automate.`
`23:45.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : only slightly, the perspective in that shot throws you off a bit...`
`23:45.13`	`ManxPower`	`groogs, Yes, three times the work with three vendors.`
`23:45.29`	`Qwell[]`	`6 times the work with 3 vendors, I'd say`
`23:45.30`	`groogs`	`:)`
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`23:45.44`	`groogs`	`someday i'll get around to writing the provision module for amp .. :p`
`23:45.45`	`[av]bani`	`the spa-941 looks a lot more solid for sure`
`23:45.57`	`Qwell[]`	`1,3,6...it grows quite quickly after 3`
`23:46.00`	`groogs`	`941 looks almost ciscoish`
`23:46.03`	`ManxPower`	`twisty7867, To deploy a new phone the on site person sends me the MAC address of the phone, I then run a script to create the config files on the local server, when the user plugs in their phone it downloads it's config and it just works.`
`23:46.07`	`Qwell[]`	`groogs: It's linksys`
`23:46.18`	`[av]bani`	`but its also very new`
`23:46.18`	`groogs`	`well, sipura .. linksys .. cisco .. :p`
`23:46.25`	`ManxPower`	`It's not fully automated, but partially`
`23:46.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : More solid than the 841 I presume you mean. Yes it is quite nice. the only thing I dislike is the stand. It feels pretty cheap.`
`23:46.42`	`[av]bani`	`linksysco`
`23:46.55`	`Qwell[]`	`[av]bani: linksipsco`
`23:46.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : Also I'd like to tweak the soft-key layouts just a bit.`
`23:47.00`	`ManxPower`	`the only thing the user has to do is set the VLAN id for the phone and even that I hope to have automated soon.`
`23:47.11`	`groogs`	`[TK]D-Fender: yeah i'd love to do that with the 841's`
`23:47.22`	`[av]bani`	`fender, one q: can you support 4 lines with only 2 sip appearances?`
`23:47.37`	`groogs`	`when they first came out, they were irritating.. on a call, you had "dir" and "redial" softkeys, and had to scroll to get xfer and conf`
`23:47.44`	`groogs`	`but they fixed that a while ago`
`23:47.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`The 941 has in my opinion become a baby Cisco. The feel of the whole thing physically & visually.`
`23:48.17`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender, except that it comes with a power supply and sip firmware?`
`23:48.18`	`KaBewM`	`jizz`
`23:48.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : thats exactly it. You have 4 line keys to divvy up between 2(4) registrations.`
`23:48.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower : exactly`
`23:48.33`	`[av]bani`	`fender so no?`
`23:48.38`	`groogs`	`actually the software isn't too bad, because you can disable things. ie, i disable the phone's DnD feature since there's one in * (that works with analog phones too)`
`23:49.05`	`Qwell[]`	`meh...it's all about chan_sccp.`
`23:49.27`	`Qwell[]`	`my phones have DND softkeys that USE the asterisk DND feature. ;]`
`23:49.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : let me try describing another way : I use 1 registration on my phone. I can be on 4 calls at a time using the same reg. I could add another comlpetely different registration and split the line keys between them (1/3 or 2/2)`
`23:49.58`	`groogs`	`Qwell[]: yeah that would be much nicer`
`23:50.05`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell, that's because the SCCP procotol is for phones that are dumb as a rock.`
`23:50.13`	`Qwell[]`	`ManxPower: indeed`
`23:50.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower : Oh you mean MGCP!`
`23:50.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`;)`
`23:50.30`	`[av]bani`	`fender, so why would you want 4 regs? when * can route for you`
`23:50.49`	`ManxPower`	`Which, I would have preferred, if support for those protocols (SCCP and MGCP) worked when I was first deploying Asterisk.`
`23:51.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : Good if you have multiple servers, etc. Give you backup functionality etc... its a powerful option.`
`23:51.06`	`Qwell[]`	`ManxPower: You really should try sccp now...it's slick`
`23:51.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`If you coose/need to use it.`
`23:51.14`	`groogs`	`[av]bani: if you're pretending to be a big company, so you can answer some lines as "Hello, sales" and others "Hello, customer service"`
`23:51.28`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell, too late. We already standardize on Polycom and SIP.`
`23:51.29`	`[av]bani`	`what i'd like to know is if i can replace our inhouse 4 line traditional system with spa-941 with the stock 2 appearances`
`23:51.38`	`groogs`	`"oh, wait, let me transfer you to billing ..... hello, billing"`
`23:51.54`	`Qwell[]`	`ManxPower: well, sure, but it's still fun`
`23:51.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`groogs : there are many ways to do that even with 1 reg. like by prefixing the callerID for example (which is what I do with Queue calls)`
`23:51.54`	`ManxPower`	`[av]bani, pay the extra $30/phone and get 4 line appearances`
`23:51.59`	`groogs`	`[TK]D-Fender: i know :p`
`23:52.13`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell, Um, they don't pay me to have a lot of fun.`
`23:52.30`	`[av]bani`	`manx, that pushes the spa-941 into the range of the polycom then...`
`23:52.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower : Never have I felt I needed more than 1 appearabce.. My vote goes to "save the cash"`
`23:52.42`	`groogs`	`[TK]D-Fender: i actually do that with those calls as well. it also helps diferentiate between a "sales" call going to a bunch of people vs a call specifically to you`
`23:52.56`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender, my users could never figure out how to use call waiting.`
`23:53.18`	`cripito`	`:) i dunno what i got the same problem manx`
`23:53.22`	`cripito`	`user related :D`
`23:53.23`	`cripito`	`?`
`23:53.32`	`ManxPower`	`Things got pretty...tense...until Polycom got firmware where you could disable it.`
`23:53.33`	`[av]bani`	`fender, can a 4-line group be supported using spa-941's with only 2 reg?`
`23:53.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`groogs : nice to know I'm not alone :) I'm planning on swapping the callerID for the originating UNIQUEID so that I can access IVR data from the originating channel and do screen-pops, etc.`
`23:53.48`	`[av]bani`	`so the spa-941's show the status of the other lines in teh group`
`23:54.07`	`ManxPower`	`tense as in being relieved of my telecom duities.`
`23:54.09`	`[av]bani`	`thats all i really need to know`
`23:54.10`	`groogs`	`[TK]D-Fender: ? i actaully have it show up as SALES:Original name`
`23:54.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower : Call waiting?! I use 1 call / line key w/ multiple line keys. Whats to figure out? Your users are probably none too bright...`
`23:54.28`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender, we keep one call per line key`
`23:54.51`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender, they are real estate agents -- they are not too bright.`
`23:54.52`	`cripito`	`fender i am trying to to something like that`
`23:54.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`groogs : Mine are like "QB:" and "QR:" depending which queue. I like to be as uninvasive on the data as possible.`
`23:55.03`	`cripito`	`check this out.. so the ppl don't have to THINK`
`23:55.06`	`groogs`	`[av]bani: i dunno if you can with 941 or not .. but thats pretty old school`
`23:55.32`	`cripito`	`http://www.cripiland.com/screenshots/dialingout.jpg`
`23:55.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : Not sure if Ppresences works on the 941. It does on the Polycom's though...`
`23:55.46`	`groogs`	`[av]bani: asterisk operates quite a bit differently than a "key" system like you're describing. we went from a key to asterisk too .. it took some getting used to, but now its fine`
`23:55.49`	`cripito`	`a phone is not rocket science`
`23:55.55`	`[av]bani`	`fender, or could you do it through xml ... :)`
`23:56.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : I did it BOTH ways :)`
`23:56.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And even on my Idle page it loads XML on 10 sec interval showing Logo, queue stats and presence :)`
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`23:57.24`	`cripito`	`yeap they are handy...`
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`23:57.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I;m going to tweak the LED patterns on my SPA-941 so they match for consistancy`
`23:58.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I don't like how they are all lit green all the time.`
`23:58.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And the script is dead-easy....`
`23:58.17`	`[av]bani`	`fender, the 941 can do xml?`
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`23:58.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`The manual is a decent read.`
`23:58.31`	`groogs`	`so when is some vendor going to release a phone that has a big screen with a bunch of soft buttons, runs linux, and let us just write our own interface?`
`23:58.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : Not yet. I doubt they'll even bother to mod that in. its too high-end a feature given the rest of they're line.`
`23:58.57`	`[av]bani`	`wouldnt that be like, illegal or something?`
`23:59.03`	`cripito`	`:_ that's a dream`
`23:59.06`	`[av]bani`	`giving users control, bad idea, probably against the law`
`23:59.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`groogs : Probably not too far in the future...`
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