| 00:00.06 | mrtwister | ok |
| 00:00.08 | rabelais | is there a flag I have to enable to get the chan_zap.so channel enabled? or do I just need the presence of the zaptel module loaded in my kernel when I do the build? |
| 00:00.15 | DrukenHME | geez.... where's that echo comming from... |
| 00:01.12 | Vijay | can anyone guide me through the configuration of sip outbound calling parameters behind the nat |
| 00:01.36 | Vijay | i can successfully make calls when i dial using global IP in my asterisk server |
| 00:01.52 | Vijay | but as soon as i put it behind the router i am unable to do it |
| 00:02.02 | Vijay | anyone to guide through |
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| 00:02.11 | Qwell | rabelais: just having zaptel installed is fine |
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| 00:02.22 | Vijay | hello Qwell |
| 00:02.36 | rabelais | Qwell: so the build just sorta detects it? |
| 00:03.05 | Qwell | rabelais: yes |
| 00:03.15 | Vijay | any idea what parameters need to be configured in sip.conf to enable the outbound calls from a private ip behind the router |
| 00:03.26 | rabelais | Qwell: thank you |
| 00:03.28 | Qwell | Vijay: externip mostly |
| 00:03.32 | troyb1 | Qwell how can i institute sip url dialing? |
| 00:03.37 | warthawg | anyone running asterisk on openwrt? |
| 00:03.38 | Qwell | troyb1: from the phone |
| 00:03.46 | troyb1 | when i dial nothing happens :) |
| 00:03.46 | Qwell | or add an extension in asterisk |
| 00:03.58 | troyb1 | i dont have an asterisk box running, just the phone iteself |
| 00:04.00 | rob0 | warthawg: haha that would be funny |
| 00:04.16 | warthawg | rob0 i have installed, just not quite config'd right |
| 00:04.31 | Vijay | Qwell is that the only thing i need to configure in my asterisk box or something else as well |
| 00:04.40 | rabelais | troyb1: it's a function of the phone, if your phone supports it, then you can do sip url dialing |
| 00:04.43 | Qwell | Vijay: asterisk |
| 00:04.51 | Vijay | because SIP server is not even receicing my calls wheni goes behind the network |
| 00:04.51 | rob0 | really? What about memory usage? |
| 00:05.06 | Qwell | rob0: it's good enough for a few calls |
| 00:05.14 | troyb1 | Qwell can you give me a sip url to test? |
| 00:05.24 | Qwell | umm |
| 00:05.24 | troyb1 | i have a cisco ip phone it clearly supports it :) |
| 00:05.28 | rob0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.29 | Qwell | nope |
| 00:05.33 | warthawg | rob0 there's not much space for messages and such |
| 00:05.43 | troyb1 | anyone have a sip url i can test? |
| 00:06.26 | rob0 | <== was supposed to set up openwrt this weekend, forgot |
| 00:06.33 | rabelais | troyb1: http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip/servers.html |
| 00:06.48 | rob0 | (I guess I could start on it now) |
| 00:07.24 | Vijay | so, Qwell, you are saying that i should configure externip and should be able to start making calls |
| 00:07.57 | Vijay | as i was making from using global IP |
| 00:08.01 | warthawg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:09.59 | warthawg | rob0 asterisk 1.07-4 is latest port to openwrt, it's in white russian |
| 00:10.34 | rob0 | hmmm wow, thx |
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| 00:14.56 | mrtwister | about WRT |
| 00:15.00 | mrtwister | question |
| 00:15.10 | mrtwister | i heard some WRT devices coming with FXO? |
| 00:15.13 | mrtwister | it is true? |
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| 00:15.30 | mrtwister | wlan+network switch + FXS or FXO? |
| 00:15.32 | rob0 | I think so, I saw some |
| 00:15.55 | warthawg | coolio |
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| 00:29.35 | DrukenHME | wuts the devel channel? |
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| 00:29.56 | JunK-Y | DrukenHME: for * ? |
| 00:30.03 | DrukenHME | uhmm... yeah... |
| 00:30.11 | JunK-Y | #asterisk-dev |
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| 00:32.24 | mrdigital | anyone familiar with Grandstream GXP-2000? |
| 00:32.41 | h3x | yeah i have one and its being used for a paperweight |
| 00:32.53 | mrdigital | h3x: crap huh? |
| 00:32.55 | h3x | yes |
| 00:33.04 | mrdigital | which 4 line phone you recommend? |
| 00:33.09 | h3x | snom |
| 00:33.15 | h3x | 12 lines ;P |
| 00:33.16 | mrdigital | and do i need 4 line phone to use a 4 line pstn card? |
| 00:33.24 | h3x | no not really |
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| 00:33.32 | mrdigital | how do i transfer between lines? |
| 00:33.37 | mrdigital | on 1 line phone |
| 00:33.52 | h3x | asterisk dosent have a concept of "lines" anyway |
| 00:34.06 | mrdigital | so if i dial it just chooses the next open line |
| 00:34.09 | Cyon | mrdigital: I've used sipura...the 941 |
| 00:34.13 | h3x | sure if you set it up that way |
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| 00:34.31 | h3x | the 941 isnt too bad but you have to license 4 lines |
| 00:34.32 | mrdigital | Cyon: i need a really cheap but good 4 line phone |
| 00:34.34 | Cyon | mrdigital: But the snom when I needed more than 4 |
| 00:34.43 | mrdigital | extra module |
| 00:34.46 | mrdigital | = 12 more lines |
| 00:34.57 | Cyon | mrdigital: Well then, use a softphone with a headset ;-) |
| 00:34.59 | h3x | it just dosent cost that much more for a snom 220 |
| 00:35.03 | h3x | er 320 |
| 00:35.34 | Cyon | And the sipura 841 is very inexpensive |
| 00:35.36 | mrdigital | 12 programmable buttons |
| 00:35.46 | mrdigital | i could use em for 12 lines? |
| 00:35.54 | troyb1 | man i feel like im using a rotary dial when entering url's into my cisco ip phone |
| 00:36.01 | Cyon | lol |
| 00:36.11 | shmaltz | mrdigital, the most you can do with 841 is 4 lines |
| 00:36.20 | Cyon | I tried a bunch of the cisco phones; actually disliked them all. |
| 00:36.32 | shmaltz | Cyon, why? |
| 00:36.36 | troyb1 | Cyon it takes me like a minute just to dial a url and worst of all it doesnt even work |
| 00:37.18 | mrdigital | power over ethernet |
| 00:37.23 | Cyon | shmaltz: While ago...price vs. quality...the sipura 841/941 felt was better to me, at a fraction of the price |
| 00:37.24 | mrdigital | i need a POE Router? |
| 00:37.36 | Cyon | mrdigital: switch...or injectors |
| 00:37.42 | h3x | voipsupply.com sells snoms for like 50 bucks more than a 941 |
| 00:37.44 | mrdigital | poe switch |
| 00:37.49 | shmaltz | Cyon, netgear is the cheapest for 24 port poe |
| 00:38.01 | shmaltz | the 841/941 has crappy keys |
| 00:38.01 | troyb1 | mrdigital i guess it's a question of how much your willing to spend |
| 00:39.06 | troyb1 | i mean i didnt spend much to get my 7940 but at 300 ~ a pop i wouldnt of bought it |
| 00:40.00 | mrtwister | not work |
| 00:40.04 | mrtwister | nat ... |
| 00:40.15 | troyb1 | im not running nat i swear :) |
| 00:40.29 | mrdigital | client wanrts 10 phones soooooooooo |
| 00:40.35 | mrdigital | 2 cables per phone i have to run |
| 00:40.44 | mrdigital | if i choose poe |
| 00:40.46 | mrdigital | phones |
| 00:40.52 | troyb1 | mrdigital your going to be a closet monkey :) |
| 00:41.00 | mrdigital | ? |
| 00:41.15 | troyb1 | (pulling cat5 through walls.. usually into distribution closets) |
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| 00:41.30 | mrdigital | am i right? |
| 00:41.48 | troyb1 | well POE means the phone gets its power inline from the switch |
| 00:42.02 | infinity1 | does anyone have a # i can test my enum lookup dialing? |
| 00:42.35 | mrdigital | the poe switches i see sat 12x 10/100mb ports with 8 poe ports |
| 00:42.45 | mrdigital | say |
| 00:42.56 | Dovid | anyone know the limits on POE ? like how long can the cat5 be ? |
| 00:43.40 | mrdigital | nm |
| 00:43.54 | mrdigital | i foudn a dlink 24port poe box |
| 00:44.32 | Dovid | eBays isnt a bad place to find POE switches |
| 00:44.35 | PJMattF | I seem to have made "progress" in trying to get ztdummy working on Ubuntu - I've got asterisk itself now willing to run and load, and a different error when triyng 'modprobe ztdummy' |
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| 00:45.06 | PJMattF | I now get "Error inserting ztdummy (ztdummy.o): Invalid module format" |
| 00:45.06 | file[laptop] | darumkillllla |
| 00:46.05 | rob0 | sounds like a 2.6 kernel trying to load a 2.4 module |
| 00:46.21 | PJMattF | I'm just redoing with a 'make26' to double-check :) |
| 00:46.33 | rob0 | "make linux26" |
| 00:46.41 | PJMattF | yep, it's working on that as I speak |
| 00:47.06 | PJMattF | then 'make install' again I guess? (I *half* know what I'm doing here!) |
| 00:47.38 | rob0 | indeed. |
| 00:47.52 | PJMattF | hmmm, that takes me back to the "module not found" style of error! |
| 00:48.01 | Qwell | drumkilla: going to ETel? |
| 00:48.41 | trixter | I love my BSD licensed asterisk module even though it doesnt do anything, I just like it simply cause its not GPL. http://www.trxtel.com/app_bsdapp.c |
| 00:48.50 | rob0 | hmmm, might have to remove the old .o files in /lib/modules/$KVERS/$WHATEVER |
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| 00:50.12 | Qwell | trixter: So, it is a module? |
| 00:51.20 | Cyon | I need to learn more about SER and sip proxies... |
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| 00:51.48 | brookshire[home] | PJMattF: what is dmesg saying? |
| 00:51.52 | Qwell | and, I downloaded the file, but no license came with it. I need a link to that |
| 00:53.10 | PJMattF | brookshire: forgive ignorance, but it gives me a ton of output if I just 'dmesg'... |
| 00:53.13 | justinu | cyon: a real sip proxy like SER is pretty cool |
| 00:53.22 | rob0 | dmesg | tail # :) |
| 00:53.42 | Nugget | hooray for BSDL. |
| 00:53.48 | rob0 | that would be 10 lines, don't paste that here :) |
| 00:53.53 | brookshire[home] | PJMattF: should be the last line |
| 00:53.58 | Cyon | justinu: I just don't know what it does. :-P Googling on it soon |
| 00:54.07 | PJMattF | the final line is just a rather pitiful "No module found in object" |
| 00:54.26 | PJMattF | all the lines above that are Bluetooth stuff |
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| 00:54.54 | Beave | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.56 | Beave | crap |
| 00:55.56 | Qwell | trixter: And which version of the BSD license is this under? |
| 00:56.21 | msw | mogorman: poke |
| 00:56.34 | justinu | cyon: it implements a sip proxy as described in rfc 3261 |
| 00:56.50 | justinu | supports multiple contact binding to an address of record |
| 00:57.18 | justinu | supports call forking |
| 00:57.35 | justinu | i'm pretty sure there's support for SIMPLE in there too |
| 00:57.51 | PJMattF | not sure if it's relevant but I actually get 2 error lines on 'modprobe ztdummy' - the "module not found" one and then "Error running install command for ztdummy" |
| 00:58.31 | brookshire[home] | sounds like the module is not in the right place |
| 00:58.40 | brookshire[home] | possibly built for the wrong version of linux |
| 00:58.41 | Cyon | Cool |
| 00:58.42 | shmaltz | PJMattF, what version kernel you installed? |
| 00:58.49 | Cyon | That's pretty sweet actually |
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| 00:59.10 | justinu | also... it won't crash when 300 phones try and register with it at once :) |
| 00:59.33 | Cyon | :) |
| 00:59.51 | brookshire[home] | when making modules for linux you have to match both versions (including subversions) and gcc versions |
| 00:59.54 | PJMattF | currently on kernel 2.6.12-10-k7 |
| 00:59.59 | Cyon | So will * ever try to replicate that functionality, either inherently, or with an add-on of sorts? |
| 01:00.01 | justinu | you can register your phones to SER, then have asterisk place calls to them via SER |
| 01:00.12 | justinu | cyon: SER is not a sip proxy, it's a b2bua, so probably not. |
| 01:00.24 | shmaltz | PJMattF, you did make clean, make linux26 and make install in /usr/src/zaptel? |
| 01:00.26 | justinu | s/SER/*/ |
| 01:00.43 | PJMattF | shmaltz: yep, well /usr/src/zaptel-1.2 |
| 01:01.05 | brookshire[home] | what is /usr/src/linux linked to? |
| 01:01.20 | PJMattF | noob q, how do I tell? :) |
| 01:01.31 | Cyon | ls -ld /usr/src |
| 01:01.33 | shmaltz | PJMattF, you followed README.udevs? |
| 01:01.44 | brookshire[home] | ls -ln /usr/src/linux |
| 01:01.54 | rob0 | isn't it /usr/src/linux-2.6 for 2.6.x? |
| 01:01.57 | PJMattF | shmaltz: yeppers - the Makefile seemed to do that for me, and I checked it manually and the stuff it says is there |
| 01:02.02 | rob0 | (and zaptel I mean) |
| 01:02.14 | shmaltz | PJMattF, you restarted since? |
| 01:02.24 | PJMattF | since twiddling the udev stuff? yes. |
| 01:02.34 | PJMattF | (which made my psu fan go cranky but that's a *hardware* fault!) |
| 01:02.36 | rob0 | why would a restart be necessary? |
| 01:02.47 | brookshire[home] | restart isn't necessary |
| 01:02.50 | brookshire[home] | :) |
| 01:03.00 | shmaltz | rob0, I don't know, but the wiki mentions it |
| 01:03.25 | rob0 | I didn't restart when I built my zaptel recently. |
| 01:03.32 | PJMattF | /usr/src/linux: no such file or directory (on ls -ln'ing it) |
| 01:03.38 | rob0 | but, I don't use udev. |
| 01:03.55 | brookshire[home] | PJMattF: are you running debian? |
| 01:04.09 | rob0 | brookshire[home]: it's Ubuntu |
| 01:04.13 | PJMattF | brookshire: Ubuntu Breezy (which is based off deb, iirc) |
| 01:04.21 | brookshire[home] | heh |
| 01:04.23 | brookshire[home] | hmm.. |
| 01:04.25 | PJMattF | aaah I believe I may have arsed up a link... |
| 01:04.44 | PJMattF | as it says, literally, usr/src/linux-2.6 -> linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7/ |
| 01:04.44 | Cyon | Yes, it is..a liveCD version |
| 01:05.02 | PJMattF | no, this is hdd-installed and "natural", not the ubuntu live disc :) |
| 01:05.33 | PJMattF | I'm guessing the link should be an absolute path to that headers folder to match my kernel ver? |
| 01:05.51 | brookshire[home] | try linking linux to linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7 |
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| 01:06.10 | brookshire[home] | ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7 /usr/src/linux |
| 01:06.15 | brookshire[home] | it might help |
| 01:06.17 | brookshire[home] | who knows |
| 01:06.17 | brookshire[home] | lol |
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| 01:06.27 | PJMattF | ok, and I'll re-do my linux-2.6 link as well |
| 01:06.28 | elvisthedj | i think i fried my iaxy :( |
| 01:06.37 | Qwell | lemme guess...ubuntu putting the zaptel modules in the wrong dir? |
| 01:06.49 | brookshire[home] | the linux-2.6 should be fine |
| 01:06.50 | Qwell | such as /lib/modules/2.6.12/misc/ ? |
| 01:07.12 | elvisthedj | if i did, this will be the first time in my life i've fried something with static elec |
| 01:07.18 | brookshire[home] | Qwell: sounds like that |
| 01:07.36 | Qwell | mkdir -p /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc |
| 01:07.37 | brookshire[home] | i don't remember how to fix that though, lol |
| 01:07.40 | Qwell | and make install |
| 01:07.50 | elvisthedj | scenario : iaxy worked find for a couple months.. Got up from couch, big static shock right to my brain .. iaxy makes modem sounding noise and goes silent |
| 01:07.59 | PJMattF | qwell: literally like that with the backticks? |
| 01:08.03 | Qwell | PJMattF: yes |
| 01:08.34 | Qwell | ls /lib/modules/2.6.12/misc/ are the modules getting put in there? |
| 01:08.47 | elvisthedj | now, iaxy registers.. i can dial it from console and get a message that it's ringing, but it isn't. Not sure how to confirm that it is bricked.. any ideas, let me know |
| 01:08.53 | Qwell | If so, this should fix it. I've no clue why... |
| 01:09.04 | PJMattF | Qwell: yes, there's a heap of zaptel-looking .ko's in there |
| 01:09.06 | Qwell | heh |
| 01:09.10 | Qwell | retarded ass debian |
| 01:09.16 | PJMattF | your precognition is turned ON today :D |
| 01:09.19 | Qwell | PJMattF: make that dir, then do a make install again |
| 01:09.38 | Qwell | it's gotta be something funky with the debian kernel |
| 01:09.42 | rob0 | PJMattF: did you try deleting the .o files in there? |
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| 01:09.53 | brookshire[home] | i never could get zaptel working with ubuntu :( |
| 01:10.00 | Qwell | brookshire[home]: this is why :p |
| 01:10.04 | PJMattF | brookshire[home]: way to inspire confidence :D |
| 01:10.28 | brookshire[home] | PJMattF: my problems were far worse |
| 01:10.29 | brookshire[home] | lol |
| 01:10.35 | rob0 | haha |
| 01:10.47 | brookshire[home] | it would boot.. then crash my box |
| 01:10.48 | Qwell | nice |
| 01:10.52 | rob0 | and there I was awhile back, saying to stick with Ubuntu |
| 01:11.08 | Qwell | trixter: Which version of the BSD license is this release under? |
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| 01:11.21 | Qwell | You don't specify, so I have to assume the original one |
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| 01:11.39 | elvisthedj | i have 300 bucks worth of paperweights :( wish somebody was feeling sympathetic |
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| 01:11.56 | Qwell | elvisthedj: You bricked 3 iaxy's simultaneously? |
| 01:12.14 | elvisthedj | Qwell: no.. just one.. the other 200 bucks is for a cisco 7940 :) |
| 01:12.33 | Qwell | I'm sure the 7940 is fine. I've almost killed a few...they're rugged ;p |
| 01:12.34 | elvisthedj | i think ima try to get sccp working with that |
| 01:12.47 | elvisthedj | since i can't get the sip firmware on it |
| 01:12.53 | Qwell | sip sucks anyways |
| 01:12.56 | Qwell | sccp <3 |
| 01:13.09 | elvisthedj | yea?? i mostly read the opposite |
| 01:13.15 | elvisthedj | i have no experience with sccp |
| 01:13.16 | Qwell | I love sccp, heh |
| 01:13.25 | fugitivo | i love scp |
| 01:13.26 | justinu | fanboy |
| 01:13.29 | Qwell | sip bothers me |
| 01:13.30 | elvisthedj | but my 7940 is looking for a cisco cm |
| 01:13.42 | Qwell | elvisthedj: so fix the config |
| 01:13.45 | Qwell | give it the * IP |
| 01:14.00 | Qwell | and only sccp firmware looks for CM |
| 01:14.06 | PJMattF | I've tried removing all the .ko's out of /lib/modules/2.6.12/misc and redoing 'make install' just puts them all right back there |
| 01:14.15 | Qwell | PJMattF: After you made that dir? |
| 01:14.31 | elvisthedj | Qwell: I did.. that's when i moved on to trying to load SIP.. so i'm gonna go back to trying to get sccp working. But, it does sound like my iaxy is garbage, huh? |
| 01:14.36 | PJMattF | yes, there's the correct dir for my exact kernel ver now |
| 01:14.39 | PJMattF | sitting there, existing |
| 01:14.41 | Qwell | elvisthedj: dunno, maybe |
| 01:14.57 | elvisthedj | Qwell: commit da**it! :D |
| 01:14.57 | Qwell | PJMattF: ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ Is other stuff in there? |
| 01:15.17 | PJMattF | yes |
| 01:15.27 | Qwell | KVERS=`uname -r` make install |
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| 01:16.08 | Qwell | silly silly debian |
| 01:16.28 | elvisthedj | Qwell: you reccomend chan_skinny or chan_sccp? |
| 01:16.28 | Qwell | PJMattF: Then do ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/ and see if the modules are in there |
| 01:16.33 | PJMattF | still same pair of errors when trying to modprobe it :( |
| 01:16.36 | Qwell | elvisthedj: chan_sccp from chan-sccp.berlios.de |
| 01:16.47 | elvisthedj | roger |
| 01:16.54 | Qwell | PJMattF: module not found errors? |
| 01:17.02 | rob0 | one of the errors is probably /etc/zaptel.conf |
| 01:17.10 | Qwell | PJMattF: and you ran the command for the make install, exactly as I typed it? |
| 01:17.47 | Qwell | KVERS=`uname -r` make install |
| 01:17.49 | PJMattF | lemme retry it to be sure |
| 01:17.50 | Qwell | exactly like that |
| 01:18.18 | PJMattF | yep, still getting hte "module not found" and "error running install command" pair of errs |
| 01:18.50 | Qwell | PJMattF: is anything in the newly created misc dir? |
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| 01:19.31 | PJMattF | /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/misc is resolutely empty. |
| 01:19.40 | *** join/#asterisk oregonalex (n=oregonal@70.58.207.202) |
| 01:19.41 | Qwell | shame |
| 01:20.07 | oregonalex | hello.. I was wonder if someone might have a minute to anser some general asterisk CAPABILITY questions for me. I am thinking about setting up an asterisk server but i am not sure if it can do what I want. |
| 01:20.38 | oregonalex | just general high level questions |
| 01:20.43 | Qwell | PJMattF: pastebin the output of the make install, with the KVERS set |
| 01:22.12 | fugitivo | oregonalex: ASK |
| 01:22.12 | Cyon | Yeah, I'm wondering about those errors too |
| 01:22.16 | Cyon | oregonalex: Such as? |
| 01:22.22 | oregonalex | thanks guys |
| 01:22.27 | oregonalex | here it goes |
| 01:22.45 | rob0 | (but oregonalex, you might not get an answer :) ) |
| 01:22.49 | oregonalex | I would like to set up a bunch of ATA adapter through my house |
| 01:23.05 | oregonalex | and one VoIP to PSTN bridge like a SPA-3000 |
| 01:23.17 | Cyon | oregonalex: That parts fine, keep going |
| 01:23.18 | fugitivo | we'll only answer high level questions |
| 01:23.24 | mrdigital | cyon you famliar with the 320 snom right? |
| 01:23.25 | PJMattF | Qwell: http://pastebin.com/497224 |
| 01:23.35 | oregonalex | ok.. so far so good |
| 01:24.00 | oregonalex | I would like to share my lone PSTN line on the SPA-3000 using the PBX asterisk |
| 01:24.02 | trixter | Qwell trixter: Which version of the BSD license is this release under? -- per the comments 3 clause |
| 01:24.08 | trixter | ie gpl compatible |
| 01:24.29 | brookshire[home] | i think all versions of bsd are gpl compatible |
| 01:24.35 | Qwell | brookshire[home]: nope |
| 01:24.38 | Cyon | oregonalex: Sure |
| 01:24.39 | oregonalex | by allowing call to be made from telephones attached via ATA adapters in my house |
| 01:24.49 | fugitivo | oregonalex: that's not high level |
| 01:24.53 | Cyon | oregonalex: yes, yes; where does the hard part come in? |
| 01:24.56 | oregonalex | and also allow calls to be passed through the Internet onto the SPA3000 |
| 01:25.00 | trixter | brookshire: 4 clause isnt |
| 01:25.05 | oregonalex | no hard part Cyon |
| 01:25.08 | rob0 | OMG not the SPA3000 !! ???? |
| 01:25.09 | trixter | the advertising clause is an extra restriction that violates gpl section 7 |
| 01:25.11 | fugitivo | oregonalex: still waiting the high level part... |
| 01:25.16 | Dovid^Away^On^V | so what do u want to know ? |
| 01:25.17 | oregonalex | just don't know if I am asking too much |
| 01:25.17 | Cyon | oregonalex: Ok, then stop talking, it's simplistic. |
| 01:25.35 | Cyon | mrdigital: not familier beyond the basics, why? |
| 01:25.38 | oregonalex | ok.thanks |
| 01:25.45 | rob0 | oregonalex: have fun :) |
| 01:25.49 | oregonalex | thanks |
| 01:25.53 | mrdigital | 12 programmmable keys ....can i put 12 people lets say on hold? |
| 01:25.53 | rob0 | hit the wiki |
| 01:25.57 | fugitivo | where is the high level part??? |
| 01:26.00 | oregonalex | just wanted to know I could do it before I got into it too deep |
| 01:26.02 | Dovid^Away^On^V | lol there isnt |
| 01:26.04 | Dovid^Away^On^V | haha |
| 01:26.06 | Dovid^Away^On^V | yes you can |
| 01:26.10 | Dovid^Away^On^V | try asterisk@home |
| 01:26.17 | Dovid^Away^On^V | it will be simple |
| 01:26.25 | fugitivo | oregonalex: you still can do that using a "gui" |
| 01:26.35 | Cyon | mrdigital: If you had the incoming lines, sure; either enough POTs lines, a PRI/BRI, or a provider that will give you that many over the internet... |
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| 01:26.47 | Cyon | mrdigital: It can go to 58 or something |
| 01:26.48 | oregonalex | greet.. I will do the asterisk@home path |
| 01:27.01 | mrdigital | cyon: no it says 12 programmable keys |
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| 01:27.18 | Cyon | mrdigital: But there are physical add-on modules |
| 01:27.26 | mrdigital | ok |
| 01:28.13 | elvisthedj | Qwell: What do I need to do to be able to edit the CM Ip on my 7940? (it's unlocked, but no edit softkey for that option) |
| 01:28.20 | oregonalex | also... I assume many people use a FXO port to attach to locked PSTN to VoIP gateway like Vonage to allow "sharing" of friend unlimited VoIP service. this loopole works? |
| 01:28.24 | fugitivo | oregonalex: just take in consideration, that asterisk@home uses a gui called AMP, and it's not supported here |
| 01:28.25 | Cyon | "Your snom 360 VoIP phone is equipped with 12 programmable keys and LEDs. Using your snom 360 with the snom Expansion Module, call coverage and management is even more easy and efficient to handle. With the expansion module, you add 42 additional programmable keys and LEDs, increasing the total number of keys and LEDs to 54." |
| 01:28.25 | Qwell | elvisthedj: tftp |
| 01:28.52 | Cyon | oregonalex: Ummm, I see no reason why not. |
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| 01:29.01 | oregonalex | fugitvo: thanks.. I am not afraid to use the full blown asterisk pkg and add stuff on. |
| 01:29.14 | oregonalex | just wanted to make sure it was possible. |
| 01:29.23 | oregonalex | seems like a huge loopole |
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| 01:30.02 | Cyon | oregonalex: *shrug* |
| 01:30.07 | oregonalex | thank you all for taking time to asking my "basic" questions. |
| 01:30.25 | Cyon | oregonalex: haha sure |
| 01:30.26 | trixter | what "loophole" ? it seems like making a voip call with asterisk is hardly a "loophole" |
| 01:30.43 | Cyon | trixter: He means abusing the vonage service; nothing to do with asterisk |
| 01:31.01 | trixter | or do you mean if you have an unlimited account with someone other than vonage (its a violation of your TOS to actually be able to see your username and password with vonage) that you can share your minutes? |
| 01:31.15 | trixter | ahh |
| 01:31.18 | oregonalex | the loophole being.. using abusing unlimited calling VoIP providers service to allow friends and family around the world to make calls using your "single" VoIP service |
| 01:31.35 | DovidB | yes |
| 01:31.47 | Qwell | not much of a loophole |
| 01:31.49 | trixter | unlimited in the voIP world relaly means "secret lmits that if you violate they will cancel your account, and in the case of some providers like broadvoice backbill you at a higher rate" |
| 01:31.53 | DovidB | BUT with vonage if u use more thab 100 hours you get slapped with a $50.00 overge fee |
| 01:31.54 | Qwell | since it's explicitly against their TOS |
| 01:32.03 | DovidB | yup |
| 01:32.08 | DovidB | same wit vonage |
| 01:32.13 | DovidB | over 100 hours and ur done |
| 01:32.18 | DovidB | goto read the TOS real well |
| 01:32.37 | DovidB | spoke to a tech in myPhoneCompany - average user only uses 500 min, a month |
| 01:32.40 | trixter | although to get the username/password with vonage you have to tamper with the device or their servers or intercept data to/from your device/their service to get the username/password and that specifically is against their TOS |
| 01:32.54 | trixter | and if your useragent isnt altered they can eaisly tell that you are connecting something else ... |
| 01:33.14 | trixter | I used well over 100 hours when I had vonage, no overage charges |
| 01:33.28 | DovidB | trixter: you need mainly incoming or outgoing ? |
| 01:33.36 | trixter | I was doing 5000 to the UK with broadvoice for a while, per line 13 lines total, they questioned it at first I made some lame excuse they let it slide |
| 01:33.40 | oregonalex | anyone know of any other SIP VoIP based providers which offer unlimited plans but do not require a lock VoIP adapter? |
| 01:33.46 | trixter | ohh that was all outgoing |
| 01:33.52 | DovidB | trixter: i know it is in thier tos - id they want u they can nail u |
| 01:33.58 | DovidB | Yes |
| 01:34.04 | DovidB | myPhoneCompany |
| 01:34.05 | trixter | oregonalex: broadvoice, but their service can be spotty at times |
| 01:34.11 | trixter | unlimited != use as much as you really want |
| 01:34.21 | DovidB | i like broadvoice too but codecs isnt the best |
| 01:34.24 | trixter | unlimited means 'use what they let you they just wont tell you what the limit is" |
| 01:34.32 | oregonalex | myPhoneComany and broadvoice.. thanks. I will check them out. |
| 01:34.39 | DovidB | myPhoneCompany isnt the lowest but in my opinion is the best |
| 01:34.44 | DovidB | lol |
| 01:34.45 | trixter | sunrocket has some low volume minute plans for $10/mo |
| 01:34.54 | trixter | or was it $5? think it was 10 |
| 01:35.06 | trixter | national calling to the US and I think canada |
| 01:35.12 | DovidB | trixter: you cant have unlimited. it will kill em. no one can be in bussiness with trully unlimited |
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| 01:35.16 | trixter | there was a PR news release a week ago about their new plan |
| 01:35.34 | DovidB | i know people have had issues with sunrocket in the past |
| 01:35.36 | trixter | DovidB: correct, why I was clarifying the definition of unlimited |
| 01:35.41 | DovidB | lol |
| 01:35.45 | trixter | at least AT&T too out of their call vantage plan the 5000 minute caps |
| 01:35.50 | elvisthedj | Qwell: My phone says Registering.. never seen that :D (progress!) |
| 01:35.53 | DovidB | i think that for ur buck broadvoice is the best |
| 01:35.56 | elvisthedj | Qwell: SCCP: Accepted connection from 192.168.1.101 |
| 01:35.56 | elvisthedj | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.56 | elvisthedj | Jan 8 18:40:18 WARNING[3178]: sccp_socket.c:54 sccp_read_data: SCCP: read() returned Invalid argument |
| 01:36.02 | elvisthedj | oops :/ |
| 01:36.06 | trixter | they defined unlimited in their user agreement as 5000 minutes or less, which is really about 4 hours per day 5 days per week... |
| 01:36.35 | PJMattF | Qwell: did you manage to make anything of my pastebinned 'make install' output? ( http://pastebin.com/497224 ) |
| 01:36.49 | trixter | but callvantage afaik wants you to use their device, which appears to be a dlink dvg-1120M (mgcp) |
| 01:36.57 | DovidB | lol. i had a cell phone with unlimited. one month spoke 4500 minutes of unlimited nights and weekends. had a billing issue and they said that wouldnt help me cause i used so much |
| 01:37.02 | trixter | I got one cause it was really cheap (and locked to AT&T) and I reflashed it to be sip |
| 01:37.05 | trixter | and that works well |
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| 01:37.41 | trixter | a friend of mine had unlimited nights, weekends and fridays with tmobile. He looked online and it said something like 99,999 minutes - even with 6-way (which tmobile does) he still couldnt use all those minutes |
| 01:37.46 | trixter | unless there was a big holiday or something |
| 01:38.02 | DovidB | hehe |
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| 01:38.24 | Qwell | trixter: mind a msg? I'd like to ask you about something |
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| 01:39.23 | Qwell | well, I'm going to anyways :p |
| 01:39.38 | Cyon | lol |
| 01:40.09 | trixter | go ahead, this is irc not yahoo chat so messaging without asking is generally ok :) |
| 01:40.46 | Cyon | haha |
| 01:41.03 | Cyon | Depends on the network/person ;-) |
| 01:42.58 | infinity1 | anyone know a company with their #'s registered with enum? |
| 01:46.15 | oregonalex | last high level question that I can think of for now; When setting up a Linux/*BSD box as your broadband gateway ( NAT/Firewall and askterisk server), I assume its just a matter of config of the OS, and the stack to allow asterisk to take QoS priority over everything else going through the Linux/*BSD/Unix broadband gateway. |
| 01:46.41 | SkramX | How many calls could a 2.4celeron 1gig ram on a 20mbit cogent connection take? |
| 01:46.44 | oregonalex | and ATA adapters through the house will make the calls through asterisk instead of going through NAT |
| 01:46.49 | Qwell | SkramX: a few |
| 01:46.54 | Qwell | celeron...half t |
| 01:46.57 | Qwell | it* |
| 01:47.08 | SkramX | So, like what? 50? |
| 01:47.11 | SkramX | Or not that much? |
| 01:47.14 | justinu | what codec? |
| 01:47.15 | Qwell | at least |
| 01:47.21 | Qwell | 50 even with transcoding |
| 01:47.24 | SkramX | probably g711 |
| 01:47.53 | SkramX | (ulaw) |
| 01:47.58 | PJMattF | Qwell: honestly, would I be better off junking ubuntu and going with, say, FC4 or CentOS? I'm still getting no-damn-where with ztdummy here :( |
| 01:47.58 | SkramX | Alright, thanks Qwell |
| 01:48.10 | SkramX | PJMattF: Gentoo :) |
| 01:48.25 | Qwell | gentoo <3 |
| 01:49.18 | PJMattF | and gentoo's not gonna be impenetrable to set up? I'm comfy doing "general shell stuff" but don't have much of the specifics down generally |
| 01:50.12 | PJMattF | (thankfully, this whole damn idea is just of the "try to learn something, and have a voip box to play with" variety - it's not like what i'm doing is commercially important!) |
| 01:51.01 | rabelais | to get the asterisk timer, do I have to have a chan_zap.so? or is it enough to just have ztdummy? |
| 01:52.17 | Qwell | rabelais: You need to compile/install zaptel before asterisk |
| 01:52.43 | rabelais | Qwell: I tried that, or at least attempted to get it to do that |
| 01:52.52 | elvisthedj | Qwell: :( google is not helping.. http://pastebin.com/497252 getting that over and over. The sccp.conf is pretty simple, so i'm guessing it's an issue on my phone? |
| 01:52.53 | oregonalex | sorry all if my "basic" QoS question is pretty obvious. I don't like feeling ignorant.. I just started playing around with SIP/VoIP.. never really considered QoS before. If anyone has any basic vxWorks questions maybe I can return the favor. |
| 01:52.55 | rabelais | but still, no chan_zap.so |
| 01:53.13 | rabelais | Qwell: is it more than just the modules? |
| 01:53.21 | Qwell | elvisthedj: I've never seen that... |
| 01:53.29 | elvisthedj | Qwell: figures :( |
| 01:53.32 | Qwell | elvisthedj: try posting on the sccp-users list |
| 01:53.39 | Qwell | (same site) |
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| 01:53.42 | elvisthedj | Qwell: will do, thanks |
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| 01:53.56 | Qwell | elvisthedj: Sergio is pretty good with answering people's questions |
| 01:54.08 | Qwell | rabelais: chan_zap should be there if zaptel is installed first |
| 01:54.25 | Qwell | Did you recompile asterisk after zaptel was installed? |
| 01:54.29 | rabelais | yup |
| 01:54.43 | rabelais | Qwell: should I just unmask the zaptel gentoo package and install that? |
| 01:54.46 | rabelais | cause I just did it mylsef |
| 01:54.51 | rabelais | compiled the modules |
| 01:55.00 | rabelais | and modprobed ztdummy |
| 01:55.11 | _upsite | hey guys |
| 01:55.12 | elvisthedj | i've never had any luck w/ asterisk ebuilds |
| 01:55.20 | _upsite | i got register => 478914025:password@10.95.2.200 |
| 01:55.48 | _upsite | in my iax conf but when enter iax show registry on the cli nothing apears |
| 01:55.58 | PJMattF | rabelais: stupid question - did you have any problems getting ztdummy to work? |
| 01:56.03 | _upsite | where is my mistake |
| 01:56.04 | rabelais | nope |
| 01:56.09 | rabelais | it's modprobed just fine |
| 01:56.10 | Qwell | rabelais: no, don't emerge asterisk/zap |
| 01:56.22 | PJMattF | right, that's it, I shall nuke my ubuntu install from orbit and use gentoo! :D |
| 01:57.22 | rob0 | boom |
| 01:58.23 | PJMattF | once I have * back and working again (I *had* it working previously, but oh no, I had to go "ooh let's try a shiny new distro" didn't I...) I don't really care what distro it's running on :D |
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| 01:59.21 | edgarin | Hi |
| 01:59.33 | edgarin | howto works the modems with asterisk |
| 01:59.47 | edgarin | I can put every modem |
| 01:59.52 | edgarin | for asterisk?? |
| 02:01.59 | file | edgarin: huh? |
| 02:02.11 | edgarin | ok |
| 02:02.14 | edgarin | What is the clone |
| 02:02.16 | edgarin | of X100p |
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| 02:02.33 | file | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=X100P+clone |
| 02:02.45 | oregonalex | anyone run Asterisk on OpenBSD? Just wondering how it compares to Linux. Not to get into religion wars here.. I just would favor something more BSDish and Linux changes too fast and seem a little bleeding edge for me. |
| 02:03.04 | rabelais | will zaptel-1.0.8 run with asterisk 1.0.9? (all I need is ztdummy) |
| 02:03.09 | mogorman | asterisk runs same anywhere |
| 02:03.18 | mogorman | you lose thing though if its not on linux |
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| 02:03.19 | mogorman | zaptel |
| 02:03.22 | mogorman | and thus timing |
| 02:03.32 | oregonalex | but as a a complete platform. |
| 02:03.34 | rabelais | this timing thing is a big deal, isn't it? |
| 02:03.51 | mogorman | you need it for musiconhold |
| 02:03.53 | PJMattF | can be - if you want music on hold, or conf calls :) |
| 02:03.55 | mogorman | and confrencing |
| 02:04.05 | rabelais | does it improve sound quality? |
| 02:04.16 | oregonalex | mogorman: the "lose things though if not on linux" comment was what I was curious about. |
| 02:04.18 | mogorman | no |
| 02:04.27 | mogorman | you lose the ability for timing |
| 02:04.39 | mogorman | with that you lose confrencing and musiconhold |
| 02:04.41 | mogorman | also |
| 02:04.41 | PJMattF | in those situations, yes. I don't believe it impacts on "general calls" which don't use the conferencing/MoH stuff |
| 02:04.50 | rabelais | aww, drat |
| 02:04.54 | mogorman | there is in advantage in using linux as it is developed for linux |
| 02:04.58 | mogorman | and if you have a bug |
| 02:05.05 | mogorman | relating to os |
| 02:05.20 | mogorman | it will be fixed more slowly if your not running linux |
| 02:05.28 | mogorman | as 90% of dev base runs linux |
| 02:05.37 | rabelais | bizarre though, I'd been using asterisk for a couple years now, and I wanted to implement meetme...and suddenly I have this timing issue |
| 02:06.02 | rabelais | just sorta hit me by surprise...I guess posix timers weren't good enough? :/ |
| 02:06.10 | mogorman | welll |
| 02:06.20 | mogorman | you can use the kernel timer in linux now |
| 02:06.28 | oregonalex | by timing you mean network timing.. right? syncing PBXs over the network. |
| 02:06.28 | mogorman | i imagine one could do it elsewhere |
| 02:06.30 | mogorman | for other bsd |
| 02:06.40 | mogorman | i mean like syncing up audio streams |
| 02:06.51 | oregonalex | oh right. |
| 02:07.27 | rabelais | but I mean, I still have to play with all this zaptel stuff, just to get a timer... :T |
| 02:07.33 | rabelais | what's wrong with gettimeofday() ? |
| 02:07.46 | mogorman | you can use ztdummy |
| 02:07.49 | mogorman | on linux |
| 02:07.54 | rabelais | zt dummy _is_ part of zaptel |
| 02:07.59 | mogorman | yes |
| 02:08.02 | mogorman | but you dont need hw |
| 02:08.06 | oregonalex | so for the timing, Linux has some more real time scheduling features which are not in *BSD? |
| 02:08.11 | rabelais | I know...but it's a mess to play with modules |
| 02:08.16 | mogorman | they probably are oregonalex |
| 02:08.21 | mogorman | just no one has done the work |
| 02:08.27 | PJMattF | oregonalex: no - it's an issue of the ztdummy/zaptel modules |
| 02:08.29 | rabelais | and figuring out how to get asterisk to recompile supporting zaptel :/ |
| 02:08.47 | mogorman | um you just compile it |
| 02:08.51 | mogorman | there is no figure it out |
| 02:09.00 | mogorman | if asterisk detects zaptel.h on your system |
| 02:09.03 | mogorman | it build support for it |
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| 02:09.11 | rabelais | zaptel.h...hmm |
| 02:09.14 | rabelais | that's my problem |
| 02:09.15 | PJMattF | the impression I've gotten from all the docs I've seen is you build zaptel, then build asterisk and it'll pick zaptel up if there |
| 02:09.19 | mogorman | no oregonalex is right in theory you could do it |
| 02:09.21 | rabelais | I just built the modules |
| 02:09.23 | rabelais | ok |
| 02:09.27 | rabelais | I'll try that |
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| 02:10.53 | rabelais | well, it's compiling again, hopefully it'll work this time :) |
| 02:11.16 | rabelais | but really, it's a little ridiculous to demand compiling zaptel, creating zaptel channel/interfaces, and inserting modules, _just_ to get around this timing issue |
| 02:11.30 | oregonalex | reading about zapata telephony driver.. ;-) I will hopefully feel less clueles in a minute or two. -thx! |
| 02:11.32 | rabelais | I mean seriously, asterisk needs better than microsecond timer accuracy? |
| 02:11.57 | mogorman | yes |
| 02:12.07 | rabelais | yes, it does? |
| 02:12.10 | justinu | lol |
| 02:12.12 | mogorman | no |
| 02:12.17 | mogorman | i was kidding |
| 02:12.22 | PJMattF | I think it couldn't get it on 2.4 kernels, except by doing the USB-layer stuff that ztdummy-for-2.4 does |
| 02:12.24 | mogorman | but it needs micro second timing |
| 02:12.27 | mogorman | 1000 a second |
| 02:12.31 | rabelais | yes |
| 02:12.36 | rabelais | gettimeofday() |
| 02:12.38 | justinu | that's millisecond |
| 02:12.47 | mogorman | rabelais if you think its that easy go and do it |
| 02:12.49 | oregonalex | anyhow know if asterisk has been ported to any RTOS's? |
| 02:12.51 | PJMattF | whereas it can in 2.6, but it still makes you deal with ztdummy because it's not been brought in to the main Asterisk codebase |
| 02:12.53 | justinu | there's 1000 microseconds in a millisecond |
| 02:13.06 | mogorman | my bad justinu is what i meant |
| 02:13.20 | rabelais | yes, one-thousandth of a millisecond...check the manpage of gettimeofday() |
| 02:13.30 | rabelais | I've used it before in my apps |
| 02:13.33 | mogorman | go do it! |
| 02:13.36 | justinu | yeah, it doesn't need it to be that accurate |
| 02:13.53 | mogorman | but i have fatter fish to fry at the moment |
| 02:14.01 | justinu | such as? |
| 02:14.03 | mogorman | esp sense it works on linux |
| 02:14.12 | oregonalex | morgorman: re: "go do it!" you mean port it to an RTOS? |
| 02:14.17 | mogorman | well this flounder im eating |
| 02:14.31 | mogorman | no i mean go change the need for a zaptel timing source in asterisk |
| 02:14.45 | mogorman | i am not aware of it running on a rtos |
| 02:14.54 | mogorman | but i dont think it would get many advantages from it |
| 02:15.34 | rabelais | well, advantages or not, it's just in the name of compatibility |
| 02:15.51 | mogorman | lol |
| 02:16.00 | mogorman | most of us care about asterisk running better |
| 02:16.15 | mogorman | not asterisk running on riscos |
| 02:16.26 | rabelais | agreed, but what's the advantage of ztdummy? |
| 02:16.33 | justinu | there isn't any |
| 02:16.36 | mogorman | there isnt |
| 02:16.36 | rabelais | it seems more of a hassle :( |
| 02:16.39 | mogorman | except it works |
| 02:16.46 | mogorman | and its done |
| 02:16.47 | justinu | it's the easiest solution |
| 02:16.47 | PJMattF | if you brought the timer stuff in to asterisk main (I don't even know if it can be done at application sort of level), then it'd break compatability with 2.4 kernels |
| 02:17.00 | kusznir | Hi all: I'm looking to implement some basic functionalities in my asterisk system that I'm not sure what they're called, so I don't know how to look them up. |
| 02:17.16 | mogorman | ask away kusznir |
| 02:17.56 | kusznir | I'm using * in a home environment with a couple incomming providers and outgoing providers. Right now, I have that set to ring through to a single extention. I want to add multiple extensions so they all ring together, and the first one to answer it gets it. |
| 02:18.11 | kusznir | (that's Q #1) |
| 02:18.15 | oregonalex | so.. is it safe to say that most people put a single FXO Digium card in their PC instead of buying a standalone VoIP to PSTN gateway like the one found in the SPA-3000? |
| 02:18.36 | oregonalex | for home use that is |
| 02:18.39 | mogorman | actually not oregonalex |
| 02:18.44 | rabelais | oregonalex: for home use? haha...no way |
| 02:18.46 | mogorman | most people use asterisk with out digium hardware |
| 02:18.52 | mogorman | but getting an x100p |
| 02:18.59 | mogorman | or a digium card is easy as a sip device |
| 02:19.02 | justinu | oregon: i'd buy a spa3000 |
| 02:19.03 | file | kusznir: Dial(SIP/upstairs&SIP/downstairs) |
| 02:19.13 | oregonalex | justinu: thanks |
| 02:19.18 | kusznir | I use asterisk in my home with VoIP providers. |
| 02:19.19 | oregonalex | just making sure I am going down the right path |
| 02:19.36 | oregonalex | justinu: thks for that |
| 02:19.44 | justinu | sure |
| 02:20.03 | oregonalex | I want to keep my PSTN line for 911 and fallback. |
| 02:20.04 | justinu | you could even use a spa-3000 with * running on mac osx |
| 02:20.05 | justinu | ;) |
| 02:20.19 | oregonalex | justinu: yes.. I am a Mac OS X fan too |
| 02:20.21 | *** join/#asterisk mmlj4 (n=looseduk@ip70-171-92-106.no.no.cox.net) |
| 02:20.27 | justinu | apparently you'll be able to use zaptel cards soon with unicall |
| 02:20.57 | rabelais | what's unicall? |
| 02:21.10 | justinu | a channel abstraction layer |
| 02:21.12 | kusznir | Thaks file. Is there a way to make it dynamic? (i.e., softphone clients. If I add the softphone to the Dial() statement, and the softphone is offline, will it be ignored, or will it foul things up?) |
| 02:21.18 | rabelais | ah...hehe |
| 02:21.23 | file | kusznir: it'll be ignored |
| 02:21.32 | rabelais | my google search just came up with some telco |
| 02:21.35 | justinu | rabelais: http://www.soft-switch.org/unicall/unicall/ |
| 02:21.42 | *** join/#asterisk tengulre (n=tengulre@61.185.224.66) |
| 02:21.58 | kusznir | file: thanks! |
| 02:22.27 | mogorman | file your not supposed to be helping people.... |
| 02:22.28 | rabelais | justinu: is this an alternative to sip? |
| 02:22.32 | mogorman | what will i do all day..... |
| 02:22.41 | mogorman | no its for doing hw telco stuff |
| 02:22.42 | justinu | it seems to set the call result to FAILED, in that scenario, kusznir |
| 02:22.48 | file | mogorman: you'll do... stuff! |
| 02:22.56 | mogorman | hmm stuff sounds good |
| 02:23.19 | kusznir | justinu: The entire call, or the attempt to go out that one connection? I.e., will it still ring the other phones? |
| 02:23.28 | rabelais | ooh, this is out to replace stuff like isdn |
| 02:23.44 | justinu | rabelais: no, it's a way of programming calls generically, not caring about if the underlying protocol is SIP, PRI, MGCP, SCCP, analog FXO, whatever... |
| 02:24.04 | justinu | kuznir: i'm talking about in the CDR... if you use Dial to call 2 devices |
| 02:24.17 | justinu | and one device isn't responding, but the other answers, the CDR still seems to be "FAILED" |
| 02:24.24 | rabelais | ah, k...gotcha |
| 02:24.44 | kusznir | ahh..ok. I'm not currently using CDRs, so that shouldn't matter for now. |
| 02:24.57 | justinu | kusznir: just a heads up |
| 02:25.32 | justinu | http://www.soft-switch.org/unicall/unicall/ch01s02.html |
| 02:25.36 | justinu | there's a nice diagram for ya |
| 02:26.20 | oregonalex | justinu: not sure I want to put Asterisk on one of my Mac OS X box.. and then put it on the WAN side. make me lose sleep knowing someone could be messing around with that machine.. would rather put up a PC on the WAN side with something like OpenBSD on it and use the Mac inside the LAN. |
| 02:26.36 | kusznir | unicall looks cool...how close to ready is it? |
| 02:26.42 | justinu | fair enough... some people run headless macosx boxes |
| 02:26.51 | justinu | kuznir: apparently it works |
| 02:27.16 | oregonalex | justinu: I just can bring myself to wasting a perfectly good desktop machine for headless stuff. ;-) |
| 02:27.30 | justinu | oregonalex: buy an xserve :P :D |
| 02:27.32 | mogorman | really justinu with what hw? |
| 02:27.35 | mogorman | and what is supported |
| 02:27.42 | justinu | works with zaptel |
| 02:27.51 | mogorman | last i heard he wasnt anywhere with it |
| 02:27.58 | oregonalex | justinu: good point.. but then it isn't what makes a Mac a Mac... the GuI. ;-) |
| 02:28.11 | justinu | it's not in your tree yet |
| 02:28.18 | justinu | it's there tho |
| 02:28.24 | justinu | i just helped someone compile and build it |
| 02:28.29 | litage | can Asterisk limit the length of a call? |
| 02:28.31 | justinu | to run MFCR2 calls in colombia :) |
| 02:28.34 | mogorman | yes |
| 02:28.36 | mogorman | litage, |
| 02:28.40 | mogorman | s and l options on dial |
| 02:28.48 | file[laptop] | plus absolute timeout |
| 02:28.49 | mogorman | yeah i thought he had done r2 stuff with it |
| 02:28.52 | mogorman | but nothing else |
| 02:29.02 | litage | mogorman: "s and I options"? |
| 02:29.09 | mogorman | l |
| 02:29.12 | mogorman | like llamma |
| 02:29.17 | mogorman | do show application dial |
| 02:29.22 | mogorman | inside of asterisk |
| 02:29.34 | justinu | mog: not sure how far he is along with the PRI/ISUP stuff yet |
| 02:29.34 | litage | k |
| 02:29.46 | oregonalex | anyone know if Asterisk supports CES? |
| 02:30.17 | justinu | what I need is SIP-T tho |
| 02:30.19 | justinu | :( |
| 02:30.37 | justinu | seems as if there's no opensource SIP-T implementations |
| 02:31.08 | mogorman | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.11 | mogorman | if you want some |
| 02:31.43 | litage | thanks for that mogorman |
| 02:31.57 | oregonalex | http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/121/ces.html |
| 02:32.00 | mogorman | we recently fixed bug with l |
| 02:32.04 | mogorman | so it you know works |
| 02:32.09 | justinu | oregonalex: you connect to them with something like VNC |
| 02:32.13 | oregonalex | in case I lost someone as to what CES stands for. |
| 02:32.19 | litage | mogorman: it's "L" rather than "l", no? |
| 02:32.30 | justinu | they have some really slick GUI server management tools.... xserver that is |
| 02:32.47 | oregonalex | justinu: I would use something in Apple Remote Desktop |
| 02:32.48 | mogorman | yes capital L |
| 02:32.49 | mogorman | sorry |
| 02:32.54 | litage | no worries :) |
| 02:33.02 | mogorman | really justinu ? |
| 02:33.15 | mogorman | i got to use 10.4 server and was dissapointed |
| 02:33.23 | mogorman | i thought it would be loaded with nice guis |
| 02:33.34 | mogorman | but i ended up setting it up from cli like my linux boxen |
| 02:33.51 | NDT | justinu: Sorry saw you say Sip-T and looked it up...Sip-T is used for inbound from pstn to ip? |
| 02:33.54 | oregonalex | mogorman: yes.. Apple could do a better for what they charge you over 10.x desktop |
| 02:34.08 | mogorman | yeah i also dont have 1000 handy |
| 02:34.27 | justinu | http://www.apple.com/xserve/management.html |
| 02:35.17 | mogorman | well justinu i run jabber, apache, ssh , asterisk, and samba, the only gui stuff i found usefull was for samba |
| 02:35.25 | justinu | which jabber? |
| 02:35.27 | mogorman | but it wasnt better than the web gui you can get with samba |
| 02:35.32 | mogorman | swatt or whatever |
| 02:35.38 | justinu | you should look at ejabberd |
| 02:35.39 | oregonalex | 10 years ago I was all gun ho on Linux and command line..today I find myself on overload and searching for a GUI.. my younger self would be disappoint at what I have become today. |
| 02:35.54 | justinu | oregon: i'm disappointed too |
| 02:36.05 | xachen | indeed |
| 02:36.07 | mogorman | i havent really used ejabberd |
| 02:36.10 | mogorman | i use jabberd2 |
| 02:36.14 | xachen | the console is the only option |
| 02:36.15 | xachen | :) |
| 02:36.21 | justinu | ejabberd is da shizzle |
| 02:36.22 | NDT | oregonalex: Only GUI I use much is webmin...rest is command line |
| 02:36.24 | mmlj4 | neither of you have used KDE then, apparently :-P |
| 02:36.27 | mogorman | anotehr dissapointment with macosx is it wasnt there |
| 02:36.36 | mogorman | ejabberd doesnt support the cool new shit jabberd2 does |
| 02:36.37 | justinu | most fully featured opensource XMPP system out there |
| 02:36.43 | xachen | I like KDE |
| 02:36.46 | xachen | for web browsing |
| 02:36.47 | mogorman | nope |
| 02:36.48 | xachen | and documents |
| 02:36.49 | justinu | mogorman: like what? |
| 02:36.49 | xachen | but thats it |
| 02:36.51 | mogorman | jive has that |
| 02:36.57 | xachen | I llike my IRC, etc. ont he command line |
| 02:37.03 | xachen | sec. no I use mail on KDE too |
| 02:37.05 | NDT | oregonalex: or you talking like xwin? |
| 02:37.14 | xachen | thats because pine doesn't have HTML support which lots use these days |
| 02:37.28 | mmlj4 | xachen: lots and lots of neat stuff you can do with KDE... like browse your POP mail via konqueror |
| 02:37.40 | mmlj4 | ...while it's still on the server, mind you |
| 02:37.45 | mogorman | most of componetnts i run justinu say only support jabberd2 |
| 02:37.58 | justinu | ejabberd is a complete replacement for jabberd2 |
| 02:38.02 | justinu | your components will work fine |
| 02:38.06 | mogorman | but most important for me is component presence poisoning |
| 02:38.07 | oregonalex | NDT: believe it or not I don't use X anymore. When I want a Unix box with a GUI I will do it on Mac OS X |
| 02:38.13 | mogorman | which isnt supported elsewhere |
| 02:38.22 | xachen | mmlj4: I use IMAP |
| 02:38.23 | justinu | mogoroman: what's component presence poisoning? |
| 02:38.31 | xachen | with SSH |
| 02:38.33 | xachen | SSL rather |
| 02:38.35 | mogorman | component sends a presence packet as you |
| 02:38.54 | mogorman | so my asterisk component sends a message to jabber server as you saying your on the phone |
| 02:39.02 | justinu | ok |
| 02:39.17 | justinu | so you can send it as another user? |
| 02:39.20 | mogorman | is feature in the newer jabber spec |
| 02:39.35 | justinu | afaik ejabberd supports all that |
| 02:39.40 | mogorman | yes but whats the point of component sending a presence packet saying your on phone as somone who is not you |
| 02:39.46 | justinu | yes |
| 02:39.53 | kusznir | ok, another probably easy question. I have my outgoing calls set to forward to another context where my cid info is set to my DID prior to dialing out. Whenever I hang up on a call (including one between internal extensions), the call seems to "fall through" and get all the CID stuff set before it appears to die. |
| 02:40.03 | kusznir | -- Executing Goto("SIP/70-6682", "outbound-ptsn|h|1") in new stack |
| 02:40.04 | oregonalex | NDT: when I started work for my current employeer they gave me a SparcStation 5 and a Windows Laptop.. I said great.. I will use the Sparc and will try to over the PC if at all possible.. well the Sparc has been collecting dust for several years now. How sad. |
| 02:40.18 | justinu | SS5 is ancient, man |
| 02:40.31 | Qwell | rofl |
| 02:40.33 | justinu | tell me you meant ultra 5 |
| 02:40.37 | Qwell | oregonalex: My SS5 is my router. :P |
| 02:41.03 | mogorman | you use an ss5 as a router qwell? |
| 02:41.07 | mogorman | what a waste of power |
| 02:41.08 | NDT | oregonalex: Yeah...well...sometimes you gotta go with the flow in certain thinsg heh |
| 02:41.36 | Qwell | mogorman: waste? haha |
| 02:41.44 | oregonalex | justinu: yes.. Ultra 5. This is coming from a guy that was playing around with Linux 0.99pl001 in college way back when and putting it on his new 386EX |
| 02:41.51 | Qwell | It can't even route packets properly :p |
| 02:41.57 | justinu | i was there with .98a, iirc |
| 02:42.06 | justinu | but I had a 486DX2 66 :P |
| 02:42.07 | mogorman | of electrical power qwell |
| 02:42.11 | *** join/#asterisk Juggie (i=agony@CPE00c049d9f271-CM00137186c8d8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:42.12 | Qwell | ahh, yes |
| 02:42.13 | NDT | oregonalex: Man no math co...hehe |
| 02:42.14 | Qwell | Juggie: y0 |
| 02:42.42 | oregonalex | justinu.. yes.. I don't remember what the version was ... I started on the Linux/Unix path in 1992 |
| 02:43.00 | justinu | i ran sco xenix/286 in 92 |
| 02:43.04 | NDT | oregonalex: heh I went from the vic20,c64,amiga,386ex,dx,486sx,dx...onward lol |
| 02:43.30 | oregonalex | justinu: xenix.. fun!! all the stuff seemed really cool back then |
| 02:43.35 | justinu | yep |
| 02:43.48 | justinu | i found out about linux in 94 |
| 02:43.48 | oregonalex | NDT: vic20 was my first also |
| 02:44.01 | justinu | NCSA Mosaic running on X11 |
| 02:44.07 | oregonalex | justinu: did you get burned out on Linux too? |
| 02:44.09 | justinu | over SLIP |
| 02:44.16 | NDT | justinu: hehe I remember when I got my 486 DX2 was like...man this is godlike lol |
| 02:44.17 | justinu | oregonalex: no, it's my livelyhood |
| 02:44.21 | justinu | unix in general, that is |
| 02:44.31 | oregonalex | anyone remember ka9q? |
| 02:44.35 | justinu | yes |
| 02:44.38 | kusznir | yes |
| 02:44.46 | oregonalex | my first internet experience |
| 02:44.58 | justinu | mine was trumpet winsock |
| 02:45.08 | mogorman | wow |
| 02:45.17 | oregonalex | in the college I was going to was using VMS and using BitNet.. I hated my school network. |
| 02:45.18 | rob0 | haha me too, oh that was awful. |
| 02:45.18 | justinu | well, actually, my first internet experience was a ucla dialup account |
| 02:45.39 | justinu | dialup unix shell account |
| 02:45.49 | justinu | gopher, telnet, ftp, finger, etc. |
| 02:46.01 | kenrstone | yeah KA9Q, I remember that |
| 02:46.16 | oregonalex | when I showed people what I was doing via the ka9q software they thought I would be put in jail for talk to someone around the world for free |
| 02:46.26 | kusznir | Can anyone tell me what this means/is caused by?: WARNING[409]: chan_sip.c:694 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 22c8ce270b1e61a76ffdd25d252bca0a@192.168.4.1 for seqno 102 (Non-critical Request) |
| 02:46.30 | NDT | lol |
| 02:46.32 | oregonalex | how can that be legal?? ha ha |
| 02:46.44 | justinu | those people should be put into jail |
| 02:47.03 | justinu | for stifling free exchange of speech |
| 02:47.11 | oregonalex | justinu: which people? |
| 02:47.18 | justinu | the people who thought it was illegal |
| 02:47.19 | mogorman | i met cap'n crunch at astricon |
| 02:47.21 | mogorman | it was odd |
| 02:47.23 | oregonalex | oh. |
| 02:47.23 | NDT | oregonalex: remember using my 300baud modem transferring junk back and forth with kid down the road...and my grandmother being like all amazed lol |
| 02:47.24 | justinu | yeah, me too |
| 02:47.26 | mogorman | and phreaking is bad |
| 02:47.29 | mogorman | period |
| 02:47.32 | justinu | he's a strange d00d |
| 02:47.50 | mogorman | very strange |
| 02:47.56 | justinu | i met kevin mitnick at panda express in thousand oaks, ca |
| 02:48.00 | oregonalex | never had a 300 baud model.. I saved up for the 1200. |
| 02:48.07 | justinu | he gave me an autographed copy of his book! :) |
| 02:48.07 | oregonalex | 300 buad modem.. |
| 02:48.15 | justinu | baud is correct |
| 02:48.26 | oregonalex | yes.. modem was not |
| 02:48.41 | oregonalex | fixed one.. mispelled the other. ;-) |
| 02:48.44 | oregonalex | damn |
| 02:48.47 | justinu | i had a 2400, then I got a nice USR Courier HST |
| 02:48.48 | NDT | oregonalex: Man I started with afriggin cassette drive...when I got the disk drive I was insane...I remember that bastard costing like $149 too |
| 02:48.52 | justinu | 14.4kbps |
| 02:48.54 | fugitivo | 31337 |
| 02:50.06 | oregonalex | man.. why did stuff seem so cool back then? |
| 02:50.20 | fugitivo | because it was for a select group only |
| 02:50.45 | NDT | yeah...very few had em back when they were new... |
| 02:51.15 | NDT | And pirating software was sticking your cassette in a dual cassette ROFLMAO |
| 02:51.18 | oregonalex | this VoIP/SIP stuff reminds me of KA9Q in some ways |
| 02:51.22 | justinu | any of you guys work on novell netware 3.12? |
| 02:51.24 | fugitivo | today your lame friend has a better computer than you |
| 02:51.38 | oregonalex | justinu: I did.. |
| 02:51.58 | justinu | yeah... that was the real beginning... novell netware made ethernet cards affordable |
| 02:52.16 | oregonalex | the NE1000? |
| 02:52.28 | justinu | yeah, a NIC was like 300 bucks |
| 02:52.29 | oregonalex | or the SMC |
| 02:52.33 | justinu | then the NE1000 was like 30 |
| 02:52.46 | mtgh | I still support one install of 3.12 |
| 02:52.53 | justinu | all of a sudden, even I could afford ethernet at home |
| 02:53.00 | justinu | mtgh: poor bastard |
| 02:53.06 | *** join/#asterisk TaSo (i=licucude@ool-44c784a0.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 02:53.33 | *** join/#asterisk MrEntropy (n=entropy@eth13763.sa.adsl.internode.on.net) |
| 02:53.34 | MrEntropy | yo |
| 02:53.39 | mtgh | justinu: its fun, we have 30 oes servers and 1 3.12 |
| 02:53.42 | oregonalex | in the days of daisychained coxial ethernet |
| 02:54.10 | NDT | oregonalex: I don't miss those days right there |
| 02:54.14 | justinu | nope |
| 02:54.16 | justinu | that shit sucked |
| 02:54.32 | oregonalex | better hope there was not a cable problem. |
| 02:54.32 | MrEntropy | does asterisk have some built in feature that if it sees an RFC1918 address, it takes the address of the router and not of the RFC'd device? |
| 02:55.08 | justinu | yes |
| 02:55.14 | Qwell | NAT? |
| 02:55.37 | MrEntropy | i'd like to disable that, what's the config option? |
| 02:55.42 | justinu | nat=no |
| 02:55.49 | justinu | in sip.conf |
| 02:56.49 | oregonalex | justinu: Did you own a NeXTStation/ |
| 02:56.51 | oregonalex | ? |
| 02:57.04 | rob0 | hey MrEntropy, long time no see :) |
| 02:57.06 | justinu | hah no |
| 02:57.13 | justinu | i had an indigo2, and a few sun workstations |
| 02:57.20 | MrEntropy | rob0: hehe, looks like we dwell in the same circles |
| 02:57.21 | justinu | sgi was my favorite tho |
| 02:57.31 | mtgh | anyone in here ever deal with netware 2.2 |
| 02:57.36 | justinu | no |
| 02:57.41 | justinu | that's before my time |
| 02:57.58 | kusznir | Is there a way to allow one extention to pick up on another? |
| 02:58.09 | mtgh | justinu: Do you still run netware boxes? |
| 02:58.26 | justinu | no, thank the maker |
| 02:58.27 | kusznir | (i.e., to "take" the call)? Like call parking, but without explicitly parking the call? |
| 02:58.39 | Cyon | kusznir: Ummm, just call one ext from another? |
| 02:58.53 | Cyon | kusznir: Or an external call being transferred? |
| 02:59.01 | justinu | kusznir: not sure if that's supported yet, but there are pickup groups and stuff |
| 02:59.04 | justinu | check into that |
| 02:59.12 | oregonalex | I used to work as a sys admin.. we were an all SunOS 4 shop and we were all against PCs and Linux (pre 1.0 days) . I remember one day we got our BSDi box.. our mouth just dropped.. The damn thin would not go down.. it was rock solid and ran circles around the $12,000 sparc stations |
| 02:59.26 | justinu | 386? |
| 02:59.27 | kusznir | I mean, exten 1 answers an incomming call. But exten1 doesn't have any touchtone ability, so they contact ext2 some how else, and exten 2 wants to grab the call. |
| 02:59.47 | oregonalex | no... it went for the expensive Pentium 1 - 120Mhz |
| 02:59.52 | justinu | wow |
| 02:59.52 | oregonalex | or was it 90? |
| 02:59.56 | Cyon | oregonalex: Of course. :) I was there in those days too. Think i started in FreeBSD .6 or so. |
| 02:59.58 | justinu | probably 60/90 |
| 03:00.21 | oregonalex | my company bought out BSDi... |
| 03:00.24 | oregonalex | anyone? |
| 03:00.25 | oregonalex | ;-) |
| 03:00.33 | oregonalex | don't through food! |
| 03:00.34 | justinu | i was working on a sparcclassic at the time |
| 03:00.41 | oregonalex | dont throw food |
| 03:00.44 | justinu | and then, i got my hands on a pentium 90 running QNX |
| 03:00.53 | justinu | it was about 100x faster |
| 03:00.57 | h3x | walnut creek! |
| 03:00.57 | h3x | heh |
| 03:00.58 | NDT | I remember my DX4 75 smoking those pentium 60s it seemed |
| 03:01.01 | oregonalex | no |
| 03:01.05 | oregonalex | after walnut creek |
| 03:01.08 | h3x | oh |
| 03:01.23 | justinu | sco |
| 03:01.35 | oregonalex | hint.. runs on most teleco equipment. |
| 03:01.59 | oregonalex | RTOS. |
| 03:02.04 | justinu | pSOS? |
| 03:02.10 | oregonalex | we bought them too |
| 03:02.12 | oregonalex | ;-) |
| 03:02.24 | justinu | wind river |
| 03:02.29 | oregonalex | bingo |
| 03:02.44 | justinu | so you must know about QNX then |
| 03:02.46 | rob0 | hey I remember that |
| 03:03.07 | rob0 | BSDi owned Slackware and Slackware was disowned |
| 03:03.32 | oregonalex | justinu: know QNX in what sense.. they WERE a competitor until they got bought out |
| 03:03.46 | justinu | they got bought out? |
| 03:03.51 | justinu | by whom? |
| 03:03.54 | oregonalex | BSDi own Slackware?? really |
| 03:03.54 | rob0 | and Slackware 7.2 was never released as a result, 8.0 came out months later. |
| 03:04.04 | justinu | here's your geek trivia for the day: |
| 03:04.05 | justinu | Ethernet is based on the idea of peers on the network sending messages in what was essentially a radio system, captive inside a common wire or channel, sometimes referred to as the ether. (This is an oblique reference to the luminiferous aether through which 19th century physicists incorrectly theorized that electromagnetic radiation traveled.) |
| 03:04.17 | oregonalex | justinu: I believe Karmon harmen bought out QNX |
| 03:04.23 | rob0 | yup, Walnut Creek owned Slackware and BSDi bought Walnut Creek |
| 03:04.23 | oregonalex | as in Audio |
| 03:04.28 | justinu | wow |
| 03:04.35 | justinu | harmon kardon is local to me |
| 03:04.45 | oregonalex | hey.. small world. |
| 03:05.10 | justinu | i really thought QNX was the shizzle |
| 03:05.15 | oregonalex | I can't even spell the compnay name right.. ;-) |
| 03:05.27 | oregonalex | it was cool |
| 03:05.33 | oregonalex | as most RTOS'es are. |
| 03:06.13 | *** join/#asterisk jef_ (i=fischer@p54846B99.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:06.39 | oregonalex | so I imagine that there are a lot of teleco's out there that sell products that run Asterisk and charge $10k+ for it? |
| 03:06.54 | justinu | i don't think so |
| 03:07.07 | oregonalex | so your livelyhood is consulting? |
| 03:07.11 | justinu | no |
| 03:07.17 | justinu | i have a permanent job |
| 03:07.40 | oregonalex | I am surprise other companies have not tried to sell it |
| 03:07.42 | justinu | but I'm lining up my own deal to transition some pretty big organizations to voip |
| 03:08.03 | oregonalex | I do consulting but it is a salaried position |
| 03:08.47 | oregonalex | this looks like a huge market. |
| 03:08.51 | justinu | it is |
| 03:08.51 | oregonalex | about to explode |
| 03:09.06 | justinu | it's not easy tho |
| 03:09.15 | justinu | but it's easier than it's ever been |
| 03:09.40 | oregonalex | not a day that goes by that I don't see an email on our internal forum mailing list going by that someone does not ask about VoIP platoforms |
| 03:09.54 | oregonalex | VoIP over 802.11x seems to be demand right now |
| 03:10.07 | justinu | that's being done all the time |
| 03:10.26 | oregonalex | yes... I guess that is why we have so many customers asking for it |
| 03:10.43 | oregonalex | I am not doing this for my job |
| 03:10.52 | oregonalex | just a project I have made for myself. |
| 03:10.56 | justinu | whcih is? |
| 03:11.04 | oregonalex | looking into VoIP for my house |
| 03:11.21 | oregonalex | and extended family |
| 03:11.30 | *** join/#asterisk theblue (n=theblue@pcp04402293pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) |
| 03:11.31 | justinu | how's your broadband connection? |
| 03:11.38 | oregonalex | not bad |
| 03:11.42 | oregonalex | 1.5 Mb |
| 03:11.49 | oregonalex | down |
| 03:11.53 | oregonalex | 1/2 that up |
| 03:12.01 | justinu | if you want to do voice over internet, make sure your broadband is top notch |
| 03:12.06 | justinu | low jitter, low packet loss |
| 03:12.10 | theblue | Or at least middle notch. |
| 03:12.16 | oregonalex | never had a problem with it before. |
| 03:12.21 | justinu | cool |
| 03:12.32 | oregonalex | I figure I can play with turning down the MTU if I get too much jitter |
| 03:12.34 | justinu | i use time warner cable, and it works pretty well |
| 03:12.49 | justinu | i don't think mtu is gonna help you |
| 03:12.55 | oregonalex | no? |
| 03:12.57 | justinu | rtp packets are like 180bytes |
| 03:13.26 | justinu | sent every 20ms |
| 03:13.33 | oregonalex | but the box I am think of putting together will also be the NAT server for the LAN |
| 03:14.06 | aksis | with a *real* firewall... for all the dls homeowners... |
| 03:14.31 | oregonalex | probably a OpenBSD box |
| 03:14.53 | justinu | trying to keep your * box behind nat is gonna cause you headaches |
| 03:15.00 | oregonalex | no |
| 03:15.01 | Nugget | pf+altq is dreamy. |
| 03:15.13 | oregonalex | the box will not be behind the firewall |
| 03:15.23 | oregonalex | the box will be the firewall and run Asterisk |
| 03:15.31 | oregonalex | and be the NAT server |
| 03:15.34 | justinu | ok... you seem pretty savvy, so you should be ok with it |
| 03:15.35 | Nugget | ewwww |
| 03:15.57 | oregonalex | that was why I was asking about QoS tweeking |
| 03:16.09 | justinu | but a lot of n00bs get tripped up by this stuff |
| 03:16.17 | Nugget | I use altq for traffic shaping and I'm quite pleased with its effect on voip on residential dsl. |
| 03:16.18 | oregonalex | making sure that SIP would take priority over any NAT traffic |
| 03:16.23 | mogorman | having asterisk behind a nat isnt that bad |
| 03:16.35 | Nugget | having asterisk and the firewall and the nat all be the same box is oogly. |
| 03:16.36 | mogorman | esp with iax |
| 03:16.41 | theblue | It is. |
| 03:17.00 | justinu | oregonalex: asterisk will tag your sip/rtp packets with whatever IP TOS bits you want |
| 03:17.05 | theblue | Ok, I'm a moron at writing dialplans and configuration files, though I know exactly what I want to do. If you can help me out, please /msg me. |
| 03:17.16 | theblue | And its not painfully complex. |
| 03:17.20 | aksis | but a home owner wants better security and a video phone.. |
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| 03:17.47 | aksis | they don't give a shit about the fine points... |
| 03:18.03 | oregonalex | and I asssume that the BSD stack pays attention to this and can fast path these QoS packets? |
| 03:18.05 | aksis | if they did, they would be setting up their own systems... |
| 03:18.20 | Nugget | oregonalex: altq can do so trivially. that's part of pf and is available in open or freebsd. |
| 03:18.27 | jaike | anyone know 1.2.2s scheduled release? |
| 03:18.41 | mogorman | when its finished ^_^ |
| 03:19.37 | oregonalex | justinu: boy I am getting really rusty with BSD.. I didn't even know about altq.. thanks |
| 03:20.16 | justinu | thank nugget for that |
| 03:20.45 | oregonalex | sweet! |
| 03:20.56 | brookshire[home] | so when is 1.4.0 going to be released ;) |
| 03:21.02 | oregonalex | thanks again justinu and nugget |
| 03:21.09 | mogorman | it already is brookshire |
| 03:21.12 | mogorman | but only on my box |
| 03:21.34 | justinu | what happened to 1.3? |
| 03:21.36 | brookshire[home] | 2.0 is already out.. built on the .net platform |
| 03:21.41 | mogorman | we are in 1.3 |
| 03:21.47 | mogorman | its the unstable branch |
| 03:21.47 | justinu | i want a java version |
| 03:21.48 | brookshire[home] | 1.3 is svn |
| 03:21.48 | Nugget | I'm waiting for 3.11 for workgroups. |
| 03:21.49 | mogorman | like kernel |
| 03:21.51 | justinu | oh |
| 03:22.00 | mogorman | just like we skipped 1.1 |
| 03:24.19 | oregonalex | Nugget: did you want a copy? |
| 03:24.22 | oregonalex | ;-) |
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| 03:24.48 | oregonalex | not sure you floppies still work.. but you can have it.;-) |
| 03:25.39 | Nugget | heh |
| 03:25.46 | Nugget | 5.25 or 3.5? |
| 03:26.07 | oregonalex | "hard" disks. ha ha |
| 03:26.11 | oregonalex | 3.5 |
| 03:26.27 | oregonalex | remember when people would call them that? |
| 03:26.28 | Nugget | ha ha |
| 03:26.31 | Nugget | yup |
| 03:26.51 | oregonalex | I might even have NT 3.1 |
| 03:26.59 | SkramX | anyone used "AstLinux"? I am thinking about putting it on a 533mhz celeron I am going to use for Asterisk-Only, or is it better to just install a plain linux distro (gentoo!!) and install asterisk? |
| 03:27.03 | mogorman | but do you have nt for ppc |
| 03:27.22 | oregonalex | put you might need a SCSI controller and CDROM to boot it. |
| 03:28.50 | kusznir | Hi again: I have a DVG-1120M that implements inband dtmf and RFC. Unfortunately, its implementation of RFC doesn't seem to work with *'s. It doesn't appear to support SIP INFO. So, that would lead one to simply use inband. Unfortunately, my * server doesn't have enough CPU power, and ends up killing the call quality. Is there any workaround? |
| 03:29.16 | *** part/#asterisk Jestre (n=ack@dargo.trilug.org) |
| 03:29.23 | fugitivo | SkramX: gentoo |
| 03:29.57 | Nugget | I've got NT 4.0 Server here, that still had mips and alpha I think. |
| 03:30.22 | Nugget | the only box I could put it on is running os/2 warp, though. |
| 03:30.39 | oregonalex | I might have the NT for PPC. |
| 03:30.55 | oregonalex | more maybe that is MIPS |
| 03:31.26 | SkramX | fugitivo: yeah.. its probably better i just do a minimal gentoo install |
| 03:34.42 | theblue | Can anyone tell me how to use an outbound proxy, like when using FWD via SIP? |
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| 03:37.02 | theblue | Hello? |
| 03:37.57 | kusznir | theblue: [trunkfwd] |
| 03:37.57 | kusznir | ; |
| 03:37.57 | kusznir | ; FWD dialing |
| 03:37.57 | kusznir | ; |
| 03:37.57 | kusznir | exten => _#.,1,SetCIDNum(${FWDUSERID}) |
| 03:37.59 | kusznir | exten => _#.,2,SetCIDName(${FWDUSERNAME}) |
| 03:38.01 | kusznir | ;exten => _#.,3,Dial(${FWD}/${EXTEN:1}) |
| 03:38.03 | kusznir | exten => _#.,3,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:1}@fwd-outgoing) |
| 03:38.05 | kusznir | exten => _#.,4,Congestion |
| 03:38.32 | theblue | No, like fwd.pulver.com is the SIP proxy, and fwdnat.pulver.com:5082 is the outbound proxy. |
| 03:38.46 | kusznir | You'll also need to edit /etc/asterisk/sip.conf and add sections in there for fwd. |
| 03:39.11 | kusznir | You don't need to split them up like that. But if you want, just do seperate "user" and "peer" sections in sip.conf, and specify different servers. |
| 03:39.21 | theblue | Ok, thanks. |
| 03:39.24 | SkramX | theblue: hello. |
| 03:39.30 | theblue | SkramX: Hi. |
| 03:40.45 | oregonalex | in my situation where multiple ATA adapters in house ---> Asterisk ---> SPA3000. Is there any particular ATA adapter I should look at to keep the cost low as possible. Note: the OpenBSD Asterisk box will NOT be behind NAT. It will be on the untrusted side (WAN). Does it matter? |
| 03:40.55 | *** join/#asterisk AJayMN (i=AJay@63.231.252.9) |
| 03:41.02 | oregonalex | I will have many ATA adapters. |
| 03:41.34 | [TK]D-Fender | SPA-2002 = 2 fxs for 70$USD = 35$/port. |
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| 03:42.03 | oregonalex | any reason why I people would by a SPA-100x over a 200x? |
| 03:42.40 | oregonalex | not worth the cost savings? |
| 03:42.45 | Seyr | Anyone know why Playback is cutting off the front of the sound? If the wav file is "How do you do today" it plays "you do today". |
| 03:44.08 | AJayMN | seyr: you need to add a wait command |
| 03:44.35 | Seyr | AJayMN: there already is |
| 03:44.40 | Seyr | and an Answer |
| 03:45.07 | AJayMN | what type of phone are u using to listen to it? |
| 03:45.52 | oregonalex | ok.. ready to buy HW I think.. thank you TKD, justinu and Nugget.. Think it will be SPA-3000 for VoIP to PSTN and multple SPA-200x.. Now I got lots of docs to read through before while I wait for the HW arrives. |
| 03:46.04 | Seyr | AJayMN: Polycom and CIsco 7960 |
| 03:46.56 | AJayMN | Seyr: Im using Zyxel wifi phones, they were doing the same thing till i tweaked the setting in the phone itself |
| 03:47.37 | Seyr | I'm pretty sure its on the server side. I have 6 servers and its only doing it on one |
| 03:47.45 | Seyr | the newest one I put together |
| 03:47.59 | Seyr | so I think its something I'm just forgetting about. a setting or something |
| 03:48.25 | [TK]D-Fender | oregonalex : SPA-100x is only for people who like to save everypenny regardless of the thought of future expansion. |
| 03:51.12 | oregonalex | TKD-Fender: You are probably right.. they don't seem that much cheaper.. I might kick myself later for not going with more ports for a Fax or something |
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| 03:52.42 | [TK]D-Fender | ummm... might want to think twice on that. * + fax has meant a lot of trouble for me. |
| 03:53.01 | [TK]D-Fender | I'd strongly suggest you leaev your fax on a line APART from *. |
| 03:53.10 | oregonalex | I have a though.. I ran CAT-5E for all my phone lines this house.. but obvious they are all diasy chained. |
| 03:53.18 | [TK]D-Fender | And Digium officially disavows it. |
| 03:53.30 | oregonalex | is there a ATA device which has a built in Ethernet Switch (2 ports)? |
| 03:53.39 | [TK]D-Fender | BAD... should have them terminated at a patch panel... |
| 03:53.54 | [TK]D-Fender | oregonalex : none you'd want to touch. |
| 03:53.55 | oregonalex | that way I can convert my phone lines segments into Ethernet segments bridged by Ethernet switch |
| 03:54.28 | oregonalex | TKD-Fender. Yep.. what is done is done. |
| 03:54.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Nop.. whats don't can be redone :) |
| 03:54.53 | oregonalex | right |
| 03:54.59 | *** join/#asterisk asteriskmonkey (n=phil@69.158.154.22) |
| 03:55.01 | asteriskmonkey | lo |
| 03:55.09 | oregonalex | that is why I was thinking someone might make such a gizmo |
| 03:55.19 | oregonalex | ATA with Ethernet Switch |
| 03:55.34 | oregonalex | I am sure there are many stupid people like me. |
| 03:55.54 | [TK]D-Fender | there are, but most have crucial flaws the kill their worth being suggested |
| 03:55.56 | oregonalex | I would guess most houses are wired this way |
| 03:55.57 | asteriskmonkey | does anyone have experience with getting spandsp working with asterisk 1.2.1? |
| 03:58.08 | oregonalex | or here is another ideal. |
| 03:58.13 | oregonalex | HomePNA? |
| 03:58.24 | oregonalex | to Ethernet Bridge |
| 04:00.08 | oregonalex | stupid idea? |
| 04:00.57 | oregonalex | just wait someone will make a ATA device with HomePNA instead of Ethernet |
| 04:01.09 | infinity1 | whats the preferred softphone for windows? free or commercial? |
| 04:02.00 | Nugget | I prefer sjphone. |
| 04:02.23 | Nugget | x-lite is ok, but it's painful to configure. |
| 04:02.29 | [TK]D-Fender | HomePNA is road-kill on the information superhighway... |
| 04:02.50 | Nugget | the acoustic echo cancelling in x-pro/eyebeam is slick if you want to skip using a headset, though |
| 04:03.03 | [TK]D-Fender | X-Lite is NOT so painful but without transfer is just damn annoying |
| 04:03.15 | infinity1 | hm |
| 04:03.30 | asteriskmonkey | [TK]D-Fender: have you setup span dsk on 1.2.1 yet/ |
| 04:03.34 | elvisthedj | wish i could get twinkle working.. got it to compile and register, but as soon as i make a call.. kaboom.. no backtrace.. looks like potentially the best linux soft phone to me |
| 04:03.38 | infinity1 | yes. i've talked to someone with the half-duplex enabled in eyebeam. it was quite impressive |
| 04:03.54 | Nugget | the designers of x-lite deserve to be taken out back and shot for that miserable configuration UI where they emulate the absolute very worst aspects of configuring a mobile phone. |
| 04:04.07 | Nugget | users find it familiar because it mimics the worst UI they've ever used |
| 04:04.08 | infinity1 | heh |
| 04:04.18 | Nugget | x-pro and eyebeam don't share that, which is nice |
| 04:04.43 | [TK]D-Fender | asteriskmonkey : Never set it up personally. I have it on a 1.09 CVS build, but installed by someone else... |
| 04:04.44 | infinity1 | Nugget: so why do you use sjphone over eyebeam? |
| 04:04.54 | Nugget | easier for my users to cope with. |
| 04:05.02 | Nugget | I don't use any of them personally. I don't have a windows box. |
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| 04:05.20 | elvisthedj | has anybody else tried twinkle? |
| 04:05.20 | *** join/#asterisk sonic2wb (i=sonic2wb@user-1120vtv.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 04:05.20 | Nugget | sjphone doesn't have a bunch of features artificially removed to encourage you to upgrade to the full version |
| 04:05.29 | elvisthedj | just wondering if it's worth getting it to work |
| 04:05.33 | sonic2wb | Hello ALL |
| 04:05.33 | sonic2wb | ! |
| 04:05.49 | sonic2wb | hackeron: Whats up |
| 04:06.07 | asteriskmonkey | spandsp seems a bit difficult in 1.2.1 you have to do alot of the make file stuff yourself.. 1.0.9 was buetiful for it |
| 04:06.32 | asteriskmonkey | anyone know if you can pass calls from a 1.2.1 box to a 1.0.9 box for fax purposes? |
| 04:07.25 | oregonalex | Nugget: Too bad sipphone won't open up the API to Gizmo or let you use with other sip providers. They must also have echo/feedback canceling in there |
| 04:07.49 | oregonalex | because I never got feedback on my laptop when I used it. |
| 04:07.53 | Nugget | nice |
| 04:07.59 | oregonalex | unlike SJPhone |
| 04:08.09 | Nugget | yeah, sjphone doesn't do anything like that |
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| 04:09.38 | oregonalex | I did notice a bug in Gizmo the other day.. if you have IP aliasing (multple IP address for one interface) it gets confused and does not know when IP number to send to work around the NAT |
| 04:09.45 | oregonalex | I am sure others have noticed this? |
| 04:09.49 | asteriskmonkey | echo free lines is like the holy grail of voip |
| 04:09.54 | oregonalex | this was under Windows |
| 04:10.00 | infinity1 | hrmz. i'm trying to eyebeam to dial a URI. you would think its easy? heh |
| 04:10.23 | elvisthedj | oregonalex: have u used the linux version of gizmo?? (if so, which distro) |
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| 04:10.42 | oregonalex | elvisthedj: sorry.. only tried Windows and Mac OS X.. |
| 04:10.56 | Darwin35 | ok i need help with mysql and asterisk |
| 04:11.06 | Nugget | mysql is poo. |
| 04:11.13 | oregonalex | the Gizmo softphone seems nice.. I just don't feel right having a lock softphone. |
| 04:11.17 | oregonalex | locked softphone |
| 04:11.17 | asteriskmonkey | mysql is fine |
| 04:11.31 | Darwin35 | yeah but i need to learnn it |
| 04:11.38 | Nugget | mysql is the windows me of databases. |
| 04:11.49 | elvisthedj | Nugget: lol |
| 04:12.00 | elvisthedj | that's a litte too far i think :) |
| 04:12.02 | Darwin35 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.23 | elvisthedj | win me = much worse than poo |
| 04:12.35 | oregonalex | windows poo. |
| 04:12.40 | oregonalex | I like it |
| 04:12.42 | Darwin35 | but I need to move my dialplan to mysql |
| 04:12.47 | Darwin35 | and I am stuck |
| 04:13.12 | Nugget | in all seriousness, though, I've never understood how people expect to put a dialplan into a database. a dialplan is code, not data. it seems like a poor fit to me. |
| 04:13.27 | Nugget | I totally get putting sip and iax account info into a database, or voicemailbox data. |
| 04:13.30 | Darwin35 | exten => _*73.,1,Set(DB(CF/${CALLERIDNUM})=${EXTEN:3}) how to convert it to |
| 04:13.36 | Nugget | but the dialplan seems an odd thing to want to stuff into a database |
| 04:13.47 | Darwin35 | '','dialplan','*','1','','',''); |
| 04:14.07 | asteriskmonkey | dial plans should stay away from databases |
| 04:14.13 | Darwin35 | I am trying to learn realtime |
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| 04:14.40 | Nugget | there are plenty of things which CAN be done but that aren't necessarily good things to actually do. |
| 04:14.45 | oregonalex | I wonder what kind of things you can do when the dialplan is in a database? |
| 04:14.53 | oregonalex | benefit? |
| 04:14.58 | file[laptop] | what do you get when you drop a piano down a mine shaft? |
| 04:15.00 | file[laptop] | A-flat minor. |
| 04:15.02 | file[laptop] | ha ha ha |
| 04:15.03 | Nugget | heh |
| 04:15.05 | Darwin35 | seems easier to add users |
| 04:15.13 | Darwin35 | and new featurs |
| 04:15.16 | Nugget | users aren't stored in the dialplan. |
| 04:15.19 | wasim | hehe |
| 04:15.24 | Darwin35 | no in the database |
| 04:15.33 | Nugget | but you were talking about the dialplan |
| 04:15.54 | oregonalex | user preferences? |
| 04:16.01 | oregonalex | I dunno. |
| 04:16.14 | Darwin35 | exten => _*73.,1,Set(DB(CF/${CALLERIDNUM})=${EXTEN:3}) how to convert it to |
| 04:16.16 | oregonalex | different dialplan which followings you around? |
| 04:16.17 | Darwin35 | '','dialplan','*','1','','',''); |
| 04:16.26 | Darwin35 | is where I am stumper |
| 04:16.28 | Darwin35 | d |
| 04:16.31 | *** part/#asterisk Seyr (n=Seyr@cpe-67-10-139-141.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 04:16.53 | infinity1 | Darwin35: not familiar with stumperd ...is that a mac daemon? |
| 04:17.00 | infinity1 | :) |
| 04:17.03 | Darwin35 | heheh |
| 04:17.55 | asteriskmonkey | can you do fax detect over iax connection/ |
| 04:18.00 | Darwin35 | no |
| 04:18.05 | Darwin35 | fax sucks over iax |
| 04:18.12 | Darwin35 | use sip and g711 |
| 04:18.22 | Darwin35 | and it is still not gaurentied |
| 04:18.35 | Darwin35 | out bound |
| 04:18.46 | Darwin35 | fax inbound also has issues |
| 04:18.50 | justinu | use spandsp |
| 04:18.54 | Darwin35 | but for the most part works |
| 04:20.14 | file[laptop] | What do pirates and trumpet players have in common? They are both murder on the high C's! |
| 04:20.51 | infinity1 | eyebeam sucks! you can't dail a sip URI without creating an account.? wtf |
| 04:21.41 | Darwin35 | so no help with moving from astdb to mysql |
| 04:21.59 | Nugget | file[laptop]: Why do cows wear bells? In case their horns don't work! |
| 04:22.04 | *** join/#asterisk Shakhruz (i=Shakhruz@83.221.169.228) |
| 04:22.12 | file[laptop] | yay Nugget |
| 04:24.05 | rabelais | well, I finally got ztdummy working and asterisk has its timer :) |
| 04:24.18 | rabelais | now, why does it reject my pin when I try to enter the conference room? |
| 04:24.39 | rabelais | I setup the room in meetme.conf, and gave it a user pin and an admin pin |
| 04:24.56 | rabelais | and at the voice prompt, I enter the user pin, nothing, it says, invalid pin :/ |
| 04:25.07 | file[laptop] | [TK]D-Fender: I deserved that |
| 04:25.56 | [TK]D-Fender | No, you deserved the whole school, but mIRC doesn't make that easy so it's 1 fish at a time for you! |
| 04:26.09 | [TK]D-Fender | uNF! |
| 04:26.32 | *** join/#asterisk iq (n=iq@71-38-75-128.omah.qwest.net) |
| 04:29.50 | AJayMN | Anyone been able to test the new UTStarcom wifi flip phone???? |
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| 04:32.21 | asteriskmonkey | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.54 | asteriskmonkey | darwin35? how do you do fax over sip? dosnt orginating asterisk have to have spandsp? |
| 04:33.19 | Darwin35 | no you can use a ata device and a fax machine |
| 04:33.56 | asteriskmonkey | darwin35: here is my issue I have a PRI and an asterisk server.. i want it to recieve faxes.. i cant seem to get spandsp installed is there another way? |
| 04:34.26 | Darwin35 | yes you have to manualy patch spandsp |
| 04:34.28 | Darwin35 | and it will build |
| 04:35.05 | asteriskmonkey | ive been trying that |
| 04:35.18 | Darwin35 | get the latest ver patch it using the patches in /usr/ports/audio/spandsp/files |
| 04:35.43 | trixter | hrm spandsp just compiled and ran for me, no problems |
| 04:35.45 | Darwin35 | then wipe the patched from the dir |
| 04:35.50 | trixter | do you get any specific errors? |
| 04:36.09 | Darwin35 | what ver of span dsp |
| 04:36.18 | Darwin35 | and what ver of asterisk |
| 04:36.47 | asteriskmonkey | spandsp ver 0.2 and asterisk 1.2.1 i get Hunk #1 succeeded at 52 (offset 2 lines). |
| 04:36.47 | asteriskmonkey | Hunk #2 FAILED at 94. |
| 04:36.47 | asteriskmonkey | 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file Makefile.rej |
| 04:37.15 | Darwin35 | you have to use 0.21.c |
| 04:37.28 | Darwin35 | for 1.2.1 on fbsd |
| 04:37.32 | asteriskmonkey | ah... ok let me see if i can dig that and give it a try |
| 04:37.39 | asteriskmonkey | im on centos for this one |
| 04:37.51 | Darwin35 | ahh |
| 04:38.51 | asteriskmonkey | grrrr there is no lettering there all 0.0.2prexx |
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| 04:39.12 | asteriskmonkey | maybe ill just go to 0.0.3 |
| 04:39.42 | Darwin35 | is 0.3 out |
| 04:39.49 | *** part/#asterisk Lurr (n=pr0ph3t@65.162.120.25) |
| 04:39.56 | oregonalex | stupid question folks.. to for my sanity.. All the sipura ATA adapters at Voxilla are UNLOCKED. right? I just get concerned when I see adapters bundled with VoIP providers. The ones at Voxilla are bundled with Broadvoice and VoicePulse "trials" |
| 04:40.21 | kuku5 | What do I need to do to have 1 port PoE for a 7940g ? |
| 04:40.40 | Darwin35 | a poe iinjector |
| 04:40.53 | JCC_ | unlocked, just bought one last week |
| 04:41.02 | oregonalex | thanks JCC |
| 04:41.05 | trixter | ha robot chicken is one of the best parodity shows ever |
| 04:41.22 | JCC_ | no prob, it works like a charm |
| 04:41.38 | trixter | I love the fact that they can do parodities of anything and not be sued for deravitive works ... family guy too what would life be like if they couldnt do what they do? |
| 04:42.14 | asteriskmonkey | Darwin35: yes |
| 04:42.56 | Darwin35 | ok I will have to test it on fbsd and see what patches are needed |
| 04:43.42 | Darwin35 | I need to build a small database box |
| 04:44.29 | asteriskmonkey | damn it ... cannot get spandsp installed grrrrrr. |
| 04:44.37 | Darwin35 | I have a 500mhz I canput a drive and 520 meg ram in |
| 04:44.45 | Darwin35 | what error |
| 04:44.46 | asteriskmonkey | can i just pass asterisk non dsp calls to an older 1.0.9 with spandsp |
| 04:45.11 | asteriskmonkey | keep getting Hunk #1 succeeded at 52 (offset 2 lines). |
| 04:45.11 | asteriskmonkey | Hunk #2 FAILED at 98. |
| 04:45.11 | asteriskmonkey | 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file Makefile.rej |
| 04:45.24 | Darwin35 | manually apply them |
| 04:45.39 | asteriskmonkey | Darwin35: i lack the skill can you walk me through please |
| 04:45.57 | Darwin35 | just use ee and edit them compair lines |
| 04:46.09 | Darwin35 | its what I do |
| 04:46.24 | asteriskmonkey | ?:/ i would be completely lost |
| 04:46.27 | rob0 | you look in the reject file and search for the "-" text in the Makefile |
| 04:46.37 | rob0 | it's not that hard asteriskmonkey |
| 04:46.42 | asteriskmonkey | yes what about the - lines |
| 04:46.48 | asteriskmonkey | hows it work explain :) |
| 04:47.00 | rob0 | "-" lines are being replaced by the "+" lines. |
| 04:47.26 | Darwin35 | man is so simple my grandmother can do it and she is 98 years old |
| 04:47.31 | rob0 | patch fails when the code has changed too much. Maybe a new line was added. |
| 04:47.49 | Darwin35 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.52 | kuku5 | Darwin35: do you know which one work swith the 7940g ? |
| 04:47.56 | asteriskmonkey | so there is --- 98,113 ---- |
| 04:48.08 | asteriskmonkey | which is on a space.. so i just put the new ++ stuff in at those lines? |
| 04:48.08 | rob0 | lines 98 thru 113 |
| 04:48.35 | Darwin35 | kuku look on the cisco site they tell you |
| 04:48.46 | rob0 | look at the text that needs to be replaced. Find it as best you can. Replace it with the "+" lines. |
| 04:49.02 | Darwin35 | cicso makes a poe injector also |
| 04:49.15 | kuku5 | which ones did you use? |
| 04:49.39 | Darwin35 | we dont not yet |
| 04:49.40 | asteriskmonkey | rob0 so its the makefile in /src/asterisk/apps i gotta edit then recompile asterisk correct? |
| 04:49.41 | rob0 | Maybe a new variable or something has been added to the Makefile, and that might need to be merged into the "+" lines. |
| 04:50.12 | rob0 | Makefile.rej means that the file being patched unsuccessfully was "Makefile". |
| 04:50.37 | rob0 | $EDITOR Makefile #yes |
| 04:50.42 | asteriskmonkey | mmm ill pastebin it so i can get a better understanding and not kill my things |
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| 04:50.45 | kuku5 | Darwin35: which ones would be the cheapest? |
| 04:50.54 | asteriskmonkey | whats the #yes do? |
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| 04:51.18 | asteriskmonkey | ok here it is http://pastebin.ca/36228 |
| 04:51.19 | `lyme | [app_txfax.so]Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe .... any ideas? |
| 04:51.20 | Darwin35 | you have to shop around |
| 04:51.21 | rob0 | haha it answered your wuestion about "edit then recompile" :) |
| 04:52.25 | rob0 | oh asteriskmonkey that should be easy, there are no "-" lines, just "+" lines. |
| 04:52.48 | VirtualCtor | Has anyone seen knight-, or did he explode in a fine red mist? |
| 04:52.58 | asteriskmonkey | so whats that jaz about --98,103-- |
| 04:53.15 | rob0 | I'd find the "app_curl.so:" make target wherever it is and insert all the "+" lines after it. |
| 04:53.25 | Darwin35 | ast just look at the 2 files side by side and copy the lines over |
| 04:53.33 | Darwin35 | its that easy |
| 04:53.34 | rob0 | easy stuff |
| 04:53.42 | oregonalex | re: these unlimited US calling plans from BroadVoice and MyPhoneCompany.. Someone said that it really want's unlimited and they had a cap. I don't see the caps on their web page. Is this something only in the TOS? If so anyone know what the caps are for these two companies.. Also are there any limits to how many outgoing calls you can have at the SAME time. That calls in parallel form multiple ATAs and/or softphones from your LAN? |
| 04:53.43 | asteriskmonkey | rob0: so i just add those 4 lines :) |
| 04:53.54 | oregonalex | ...it really was not unlimited.. |
| 04:54.04 | rob0 | If you got it wrong, chances are your compile will fail :) |
| 04:54.41 | Darwin35 | then you go back and check that you used the tabkey where neede and not the spacebar |
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| 04:55.06 | rob0 | ah yes, Makefile syntax is picky |
| 04:55.13 | Darwin35 | I am currently looking at 0.3 |
| 04:55.22 | Darwin35 | if I patch it I will send it to you |
| 04:55.33 | Darwin35 | and tell you how to chang the port info |
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| 04:56.30 | Darwin35 | so far the patches are taking |
| 04:56.30 | trixter | oregonalex: I said they have a cap, and usually they dont tell you what it is |
| 04:56.41 | Darwin35 | I migh thave 0.3 here in a min |
| 04:56.46 | oregonalex | trixter: bummer. |
| 04:57.03 | asteriskmonkey | i can just do a make then without doing a make install to find out :) |
| 04:57.07 | oregonalex | trixter: do you recall what the caps where? |
| 04:57.09 | trixter | its at their discretion, in the BV terms of service for example they say that if in their sole discretion you use a residential line with calling patterns that they deem abnormal then they can backbill you for upto 6 months at a higher rate |
| 04:57.15 | `lyme | [app_txfax.so]Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe .... any ideas? |
| 04:57.15 | trixter | they dont tell you typically |
| 04:57.25 | trixter | AT&T was the only one that told you and now they no longer do |
| 04:57.45 | asteriskmonkey | rob0: it broke |
| 04:57.50 | oregonalex | so "residential" hmm. |
| 04:58.07 | trixter | steve oh steve are you here? |
| 04:58.37 | oregonalex | are there any restrictions on how many outgoing calls are active (in parallel?) |
| 04:58.40 | asteriskmonkey | i get |
| 04:58.40 | asteriskmonkey | make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/asterisk-1.2/apps' |
| 04:58.47 | asteriskmonkey | Makefile:102: *** missing separator. Stop. |
| 04:59.04 | trixter | broadvoice limits to 2 channels at the same time |
| 04:59.28 | trixter | either 2 in 2 out or 1 in and 1 out. and sometimes they dont hang up so you have to log into the webpage, goto their call manager and click to hang up the line |
| 04:59.42 | oregonalex | trixter: from what you have learned 2 is typical from others? |
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| 04:59.46 | asteriskmonkey | rob0: this is line 102 where it says it has issue $(CC) $(SOLINK) -o $@ $< -lspandsp -ltiff |
| 04:59.47 | AJayMN | trixter : ive been able to have 8 calls going at once on BV and that wasnt capped that was just all the phones i had... |
| 05:00.03 | trixter | broadvoice also hangs up on you after about 4 hours, often if you make a 4 hour call that is terminated (within a few seconds of 14400 can be a little early or a little late) they dont show it on your usage |
| 05:00.22 | trixter | so if you make a call to a really expensive destination and they terminate it because it went 4 hours you dont pay :P |
| 05:00.27 | trixter | ohh new family guy is on now |
| 05:00.52 | trixter | parodity shows are great. able to take a copyrighted work and make fun of it without paying royalties or being sued by the copyright holder.. |
| 05:00.56 | trixter | this one meg has a mullet |
| 05:01.27 | Darwin35 | ok manualy applying the patches to 0.3 works |
| 05:02.02 | asteriskmonkey | darwin35: im using 0.3 :P i added the lines and i get ***missing serperator error |
| 05:02.04 | Darwin35 | its compiling |
| 05:02.10 | asteriskmonkey | line 102 is $(CC) $(SOLINK) -o $@ $< -lspandsp -ltiff |
| 05:02.14 | oregonalex | trixter: thanks .. I understand what they are trying to catch. What I am hoping on doing they wont blink |
| 05:02.16 | asteriskmonkey | was ours the same |
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| 05:02.36 | Darwin35 | wich file and line |
| 05:02.48 | oregonalex | just wanted to share my VoIP to PSTN with extended family households. ;-) |
| 05:03.32 | Darwin35 | ok just at the $cc |
| 05:03.38 | asteriskmonkey | Makefile in the apps dir |
| 05:03.42 | asteriskmonkey | yes |
| 05:03.54 | asteriskmonkey | error was Makefile:102: *** missing separator. |
| 05:03.56 | Darwin35 | put your cursor and hit backspace |
| 05:04.22 | asteriskmonkey | ok that moved it to the previous line |
| 05:04.26 | Darwin35 | then once all the spaces ar egone back to the begining f the line hit tab once |
| 05:05.07 | Darwin35 | hit return and have $cc ats the begining of the line |
| 05:05.12 | Darwin35 | hit tab once |
| 05:05.33 | trixter | oregonalex: I pushed 5000 minutes a month through each of 13 accounts all linked together they called me on it but didnt cancel me or anything, I made excuses and they bought it |
| 05:05.34 | Darwin35 | and save it |
| 05:05.43 | Darwin35 | do the same for the next error |
| 05:05.52 | trixter | and they were international calls to a more expensive destination than the US so in all likelyhood they lost a bunch of money on me |
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| 05:06.09 | trixter | I arbitrarily decided on 5000 minutyes becuase that is 4 hours per day 5 days per week, like a teenager |
| 05:06.10 | asteriskmonkey | shiznit its building now |
| 05:07.10 | Darwin35 | I can teach but you have to clean the jizzum out of your ears and the shit out your eyes |
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| 05:08.02 | Darwin35 | and a good doouche wold not hur either |
| 05:08.09 | Darwin35 | hurt |
| 05:08.16 | asteriskmonkey | ah balls |
| 05:08.23 | Darwin35 | what |
| 05:08.28 | asteriskmonkey | Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) |
| 05:08.37 | Darwin35 | start astersk |
| 05:08.48 | Darwin35 | asterisk -vvvvvvvvvvvgc |
| 05:08.56 | Darwin35 | or -vvvvvvvvvvvvvvgcf |
| 05:08.58 | asteriskmonkey | i did it dosnt booogie sec will try that |
| 05:09.11 | Darwin35 | what error |
| 05:09.27 | asteriskmonkey | back to cli.. last thing it does is load [app_rxfax.so] before crapping out |
| 05:09.40 | oregonalex | trixter: 13 unlimited accounts!! wow.. that is a lot of minutes. you a lot of kids I see.. all teenagers.. ha ha |
| 05:09.59 | oregonalex | .. you have a lot of kids.. |
| 05:10.39 | asteriskmonkey | darwin35.. so that means that spandsp is screwed in the build? |
| 05:10.52 | Darwin35 | no |
| 05:11.08 | Darwin35 | mine is working |
| 05:11.11 | asteriskmonkey | so why does it boot back to cli at [app_rxfax.so] |
| 05:11.15 | Darwin35 | what ver of fbsd and asterisk |
| 05:11.20 | asteriskmonkey | centos |
| 05:11.25 | infinity1 | has anyone registered their company with enum (arpa or org) and actually received calls that way? |
| 05:11.28 | Darwin35 | cli means its up |
| 05:11.44 | Darwin35 | cli> is asterisk |
| 05:11.49 | asteriskmonkey | asterisk -r dosnt work so its not up |
| 05:12.04 | Darwin35 | if you type exit now |
| 05:12.12 | Darwin35 | do you get a shell prompt |
| 05:12.21 | Darwin35 | stop now |
| 05:12.24 | asteriskmonkey | if i type exit ill get kicked out of my ssh session |
| 05:12.27 | asteriskmonkey | its not started |
| 05:12.34 | asteriskmonkey | like i said it dies on [app_rxfax.so] |
| 05:12.38 | Darwin35 | go read the logs |
| 05:13.01 | *** part/#asterisk VirtualCtor (n=tlewis@c-65-96-81-203.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 05:14.15 | Darwin35 | brb |
| 05:14.42 | asteriskmonkey | darwin35: k .. rolling back .. i know i shouldnt do this on a production box :P |
| 05:15.04 | Darwin35 | no you should always have a lab box |
| 05:15.12 | fugitivo | noload => app_rxfax.so |
| 05:15.16 | Darwin35 | I test on a lab box then roll out |
| 05:15.43 | asteriskmonkey | yes just recomiling now anyway get my self 20minor changes up :) |
| 05:16.14 | asteriskmonkey | ill start a build on a test box, problem is my test boxes are all different os's |
| 05:16.40 | Darwin35 | ours are all fbsd boxes |
| 05:16.49 | Darwin35 | and not had a issue yet |
| 05:17.12 | asteriskmonkey | yes that will be my weekend goal for next weekend i have a fedora 2 tester and a freebsd 5.4 |
| 05:17.31 | Darwin35 | I amworking on fbsd 6.0 |
| 05:17.50 | trixter | new american dad |
| 05:17.54 | infinity1 | its all about debian :P |
| 05:18.26 | Darwin35 | fbsd 6.0 asterisk 1.2.1 spandsp 0.3 and loads of agi and perl and system calls |
| 05:18.43 | Darwin35 | next is to get it all realtime |
| 05:18.45 | fugitivo | Darwin35: does lastest zaptel work? |
| 05:19.45 | asteriskmonkey | latest zaptel works on centos.. oh you mean freebsd :) |
| 05:19.55 | fugitivo | yes |
| 05:19.59 | Darwin35 | yes |
| 05:20.02 | fugitivo | really? |
| 05:20.19 | fugitivo | that's cool |
| 05:20.20 | infinity1 | i just had an epiphany! |
| 05:20.21 | Darwin35 | they just put out a big update on the drivers |
| 05:20.29 | fugitivo | now if it works on openbsd, i'll be happy |
| 05:20.35 | infinity1 | use ipkall to accept our 800 # calls! save money! |
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| 05:22.03 | infinity1 | anone use ipkall? is it reliable? |
| 05:22.27 | fugitivo | i don't like people that replace c with k |
| 05:22.38 | Darwin35 | only in kde |
| 05:22.46 | fugitivo | yes, i use kde |
| 05:22.50 | infinity1 | heh. i'm not sure htats relavant to my question, but okay :) |
| 05:22.51 | Darwin35 | can you replace c wiht k |
| 05:22.54 | asteriskmonkey | where is svn in ports tree under freebsd? |
| 05:23.01 | asteriskmonkey | or fo i have to dload it :P |
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| 05:23.08 | Darwin35 | devel |
| 05:23.13 | aksis | will it hurt anything is I make the rtp range smaller? from 10000-10050 or does it need to stay at 20000? |
| 05:23.20 | infinity1 | fugitivo: Darwin35 got ya. you can't use kde :) |
| 05:23.32 | fugitivo | infinity1: i do |
| 05:23.41 | Darwin35 | I do |
| 05:23.44 | Darwin35 | and xfce |
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| 05:24.06 | sonic2wb | aksis: make sure u have enough ports open for as many concurrent connections u will be useing |
| 05:24.10 | infinity1 | fugitivo: err... you said "i don't like people that replace c with k" ...i'm assuming that doesnt apply to software then? |
| 05:24.34 | Darwin35 | kat calls insted of cat calls |
| 05:24.44 | fugitivo | kd / |
| 05:25.05 | asteriskmonkey | hows the pri drivers under freebsd? |
| 05:25.06 | aksis | sonic2wb: are there 2 connections for each call? |
| 05:25.23 | aksis | so 50 people would use 100 ports right? |
| 05:25.35 | Darwin35 | not sure willhave to read the zaptel-bsd |
| 05:25.42 | fugitivo | aksis: not really |
| 05:26.00 | Darwin35 | i just use zaptel for timing right now |
| 05:26.11 | fugitivo | aksis: consider on hold calls, conferences, voicemail, etc |
| 05:26.23 | asteriskmonkey | darwin35: that was the only issue stopping me from using freebsd to start was the poor pri drivers 6months back |
| 05:26.24 | Darwin35 | ztdummy works great |
| 05:26.38 | Darwin35 | drivers are growing |
| 05:26.45 | aksis | ok... well no more then 1000, all I have is a dsl line ;-) |
| 05:26.48 | asteriskmonkey | thats just a tool that dosnt work right anyhow lol |
| 05:26.52 | Darwin35 | they support some new cards now |
| 05:26.56 | asteriskmonkey | woo :) |
| 05:27.16 | Darwin35 | read the list |
| 05:27.18 | asteriskmonkey | if its got the te110p :) im doing a redeye one day this week to make the production box a bsd box |
| 05:27.28 | hohum | hey |
| 05:27.36 | hohum | I'm trying to set up a meetme conference |
| 05:27.37 | sonic2wb | is this odd: me and my Co-lo server are in the same town BUT our voip is in Denver,CO, the ping time from the co-lo to denver is lower than me and the co-lo in the same town |
| 05:27.39 | hohum | and I keep getting this error |
| 05:27.41 | hohum | Jan 8 23:26:30 WARNING[5413]: chan_zap.c:912 zt_open: Unable to open '/dev/zap/pseudo': No such device or address |
| 05:27.46 | hohum | how do I fix that? |
| 05:27.51 | Darwin35 | man its nice to have tomarrow off Ic an stay up late |
| 05:28.28 | fugitivo | sonic2wb: this is worse |
| 05:28.36 | Darwin35 | ok mine loads fiiine |
| 05:28.38 | sonic2wb | what? |
| 05:28.41 | Darwin35 | no issues |
| 05:28.44 | asteriskmonkey | my card is still beta :( Wildcard T100P (T1/PRI) driver: beta |
| 05:28.53 | fugitivo | sonic2wb: my ping to my voip provider is <20ms, but my ping to my atcom 320 ip phone is 50ms |
| 05:29.01 | Darwin35 | email the list for status |
| 05:29.01 | sonic2wb | oh god |
| 05:29.01 | fugitivo | sonic2wb: (lan phone) |
| 05:29.02 | mogorman | beta? wtf |
| 05:29.07 | mogorman | that card is discontinued |
| 05:29.09 | mogorman | its not in beta |
| 05:29.18 | asteriskmonkey | i have a 110p :) |
| 05:29.32 | hohum | all I need is the zaptel.o loaded and run ztcfg right? |
| 05:29.38 | hohum | I don't need to do anything else for meetme? |
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| 05:29.47 | mogorman | te110p is not in beta |
| 05:29.50 | fugitivo | hohum: ztdummy if no hardware |
| 05:29.51 | Darwin35 | timing |
| 05:29.53 | mogorman | you need ztdummy |
| 05:29.57 | hohum | hmm |
| 05:29.58 | hohum | well |
| 05:30.15 | ObsidianX | hey folks, i can't seem to get cdr_addon_mysql.so to read cdr_mysql.conf |
| 05:30.19 | hohum | it appears as if ztdummy didn't get built when I compiled the new zaptel drivers |
| 05:30.33 | sivana | does asterisk install allow you to specify a prefix and have all related paths stored in one dir? |
| 05:30.52 | asteriskmonkey | i cant find the link is the te110p production in freebsd now? |
| 05:30.53 | hohum | In file included from ztdummy.c:78: |
| 05:30.53 | hohum | ztdummy.h:33: field `span' has incomplete type |
| 05:30.53 | hohum | ztdummy.h:34: field `chan' has incomplete type |
| 05:30.53 | hohum | ztdummy.h:41: confused by earlier errors, bailing out |
| 05:30.53 | hohum | make: *** [ztdummy.o] Error 1 |
| 05:31.00 | Darwin35 | ok my test box is up now to throw test calls at it |
| 05:31.02 | ObsidianX | can anybody point me in the right direction? |
| 05:31.11 | trixter | woo family guy is on right now |
| 05:31.15 | trixter | er american dad :P |
| 05:31.18 | mogorman | gnite people |
| 05:31.19 | sivana | heh |
| 05:31.19 | *** part/#asterisk mogorman (n=mogorman@user-24-236-84-48.knology.net) |
| 05:32.09 | asteriskmonkey | wonder how asterisk would handle on a cluster |
| 05:32.15 | Darwin35 | ok the testboxis at 15 calls and no issues |
| 05:32.31 | Darwin35 | I think I can roll out new servers this week |
| 05:32.44 | Darwin35 | clone the drive |
| 05:32.47 | asteriskmonkey | where do i find info on the te110p for freebsd? |
| 05:33.01 | Darwin35 | email the list |
| 05:34.46 | Darwin35 | ltr |
| 05:34.54 | asteriskmonkey | l8r |
| 05:34.57 | Darwin35 | I will be around |
| 05:35.02 | asteriskmonkey | k |
| 05:35.02 | *** join/#asterisk NDT (n=me@cpe-24-194-166-119.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 05:35.18 | Darwin35 | break time |
| 05:36.01 | sonic2wb | im getting such ch o o py audio |
| 05:37.00 | sonic2wb | should a p233 be able to handle 1 sip client makeing a call via IAX to voip |
| 05:39.09 | inv_Arp | sonic2wb: 10 sip clients making a call |
| 05:39.11 | trixter | wow both family guy and american dad (both seth mcfarlane) made some reference to either plowing jessica alba until next spring or getting a job as her gstring ... think seth is trying to say something tonight? |
| 05:39.13 | inv_Arp | via iax |
| 05:39.30 | inv_Arp | expecially is uncompressed |
| 05:39.31 | sivana | hehe |
| 05:40.17 | sonic2wb | k |
| 05:42.33 | *** join/#asterisk aNaSTaCia_geBeri (n=aLi@85.108.150.190) |
| 05:43.48 | sonic2wb | blah, still choppy audio |
| 05:43.54 | *** join/#asterisk Corydon76-home (i=three@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Corydon76-home) |
| 06:00.52 | *** join/#asterisk jbot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 06:00.52 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk 1.2.1 has been released! -//- http://www.asterisk.org |
| 06:01.00 | justinu | i doubt it |
| 06:01.02 | sonic2wb | someone on my voip providers fourms was haveing the same prob |
| 06:01.02 | aless | hi, how do i retrieve this file using cvs http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel?rev=842&view=rev ? |
| 06:02.45 | wunderkin | there is no problem in the trace you have shown |
| 06:04.42 | NDT | aless: Has a download link why can't you just download it and relpace the old one? |
| 06:04.51 | sonic2wb | can i copy a sip client from sip.conf and put it in iax.conf? |
| 06:05.27 | aless | NDT: was trying how does this svn thing work sorry |
| 06:06.03 | *** join/#asterisk SwK (n=SwK@12-219-147-107.client.mchsi.com) |
| 06:06.27 | *** join/#asterisk AJay-MN (i=AJay@63.231.252.9) |
| 06:07.58 | NDT | aless: Just do wget http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel/trunk/zaptel.c?rev=842 |
| 06:08.11 | NDT | might have to rename it to zaptel.c afterwards |
| 06:08.15 | NDT | downloads fine for me |
| 06:08.32 | Qwell | aless: You use the svn app |
| 06:08.45 | Qwell | svn co http://svn.digium.com/zaptel/trunk/ |
| 06:08.49 | Qwell | erm |
| 06:09.02 | Qwell | yeah, that would work |
| 06:10.35 | aless | thanks a lot |
| 06:11.52 | *** join/#asterisk jjhall (n=chatzill@94-253.69-92-cpe.cableone.net) |
| 06:12.43 | jjhall | Is Broadvoice no longer allowing inbound SIP calls? |
| 06:14.18 | theblue | Hi all. |
| 06:14.22 | sonic2wb | hmmmmmm |
| 06:14.32 | Qwell | broadvoice isn't working? |
| 06:14.38 | theblue | Is there way to play GSM files at the *CLI or on the bash shell? |
| 06:14.41 | Qwell | damn, the day today must end in a 'y' |
| 06:14.54 | Qwell | theblue: sox can play gsm |
| 06:15.02 | theblue | Qwell: Is that in the *CLI? |
| 06:15.06 | Qwell | no |
| 06:15.13 | theblue | ok, thanks Qwell |
| 06:15.28 | Qwell | instead of trying to figure out the args to sox...use the `play` command |
| 06:15.35 | theblue | D'oh! |
| 06:15.39 | Qwell | play is a wrapper to sox |
| 06:15.54 | sonic2wb | Qwell: whats up! |
| 06:15.55 | theblue | Oh. |
| 06:15.59 | theblue | One trip to APT later... |
| 06:15.59 | *** join/#asterisk achandra (i=achandra@static-71-103-255-118.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 06:16.06 | Qwell | theblue: no, you still need sox |
| 06:16.09 | Qwell | play comes with sox |
| 06:16.24 | *** join/#asterisk j_vianna (i=vianna@ool-4351ce17.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 06:16.24 | theblue | I know. |
| 06:16.29 | theblue | I just got sox. |
| 06:16.32 | achandra | Hello. I am a newbie to this channel, and I am very excited to join this community |
| 06:16.38 | wunderkin | does anyone know how to change the attended transfer timeout? it seems to be 15 sec by default but i dont see anywhere to change it, it doesnt obey the dial timeout |
| 06:16.42 | sonic2wb | anyone used idefisk |
| 06:16.52 | jjhall | Qwell: LOL. I know what you mean. i just don't know whether or not they are actively blocking it like Vonage or if something is actually "broken." |
| 06:17.23 | Qwell | jjhall: broadvoice is often down. try again later |
| 06:17.35 | j_vianna | Hi gurus ! I'm using asterisk realtime with mysql. Every time I reload * I lost all peers and my customers can't call. Anyone can help me ? |
| 06:17.46 | Johnnie | How unusual. |
| 06:17.52 | *** join/#asterisk wonton (n=wonton@CPE-144-133-93-120.vic.bigpond.net.au) |
| 06:17.53 | Johnnie | BroadVoice is usually down ... once a week? :) |
| 06:18.03 | theblue | Also, is there a way I can play a dialtone onto the line? |
| 06:18.04 | Qwell | Johnnie: 7 times a week |
| 06:18.06 | achandra | I am embarking on a project to set up asterisk for up to 100 offices with 3-5 people per office over a ds3. Can someone help me out with some basic questions? |
| 06:18.08 | Qwell | theblue: what line? |
| 06:18.13 | Qwell | achandra: ask away |
| 06:18.15 | theblue | Qwell: A SIP channel. |
| 06:18.24 | Qwell | theblue: the phone should provide dialtone |
| 06:18.28 | SwK | anyone using MCC? |
| 06:18.30 | theblue | Qwell: No, I'm not doing it like that. |
| 06:18.32 | trixter | theblue: playtones |
| 06:18.38 | theblue | Qwell: There's no internal extensions. |
| 06:18.40 | Qwell | theblue: explain |
| 06:18.49 | theblue | Qwell: The only way to use it is to dial in via FWD. |
| 06:18.49 | Johnnie | Qwell: Sounds familiar. |
| 06:18.52 | Qwell | SwK: MCC? |
| 06:19.00 | Johnnie | I've had great luck with ViaTalk. |
| 06:19.02 | achandra | I am very new to this. So you'll have to walk me through. Some may seem like " you idiot questions"...so let the ass kicking begin. ;). |
| 06:19.03 | trixter | playtones(dial) iirc and stopplaytones to silence it |
| 06:19.04 | SwK | billing package |
| 06:19.05 | Qwell | theblue: use what? |
| 06:19.06 | theblue | Qwell: The PBX then provides a dialtone, and you dial your extension. |
| 06:19.11 | Johnnie | I dunno if any of you guys use ViaTalk, but they're pretty damn good. |
| 06:19.12 | theblue | Qwell: The PBX. |
| 06:19.16 | j_vianna | Anyone using * realtime for sip ? |
| 06:19.23 | T42X | me |
| 06:19.35 | Qwell | theblue: I think I need another beer...I'm not following |
| 06:19.41 | achandra | I have a DS3 that is connceted to cisco routers basically providing data to the 10 offices now. I need to set these offices up with VOIP. |
| 06:19.46 | Qwell | Where do you want a dialtone? |
| 06:19.56 | trixter | theblue: playtones read a few lines above |
| 06:19.59 | j_vianna | T42X, every time i reload * I lost my peers... |
| 06:20.03 | theblue | trixter: Ah, thank you. |
| 06:20.07 | Qwell | achandra: I assume they're demuxed into a bunch of T1s? |
| 06:20.10 | achandra | Now here is the tricky part...where do I put the asterisk box to make it extensible upto 100 offices> |
| 06:20.16 | theblue | trixter: Is there an equivalent to Background for that? |
| 06:20.36 | Qwell | achandra: So, you've got a DS3, and 100 offices with say...10 people per office? |
| 06:20.38 | T42X | j_vianna, hmm |
| 06:20.40 | trixter | it does background ... I do playtones(ring); while doing fax detection |
| 06:20.41 | achandra | Qwell: for the most part thats a good assumption..yes |
| 06:20.45 | T42X | i don't no |
| 06:20.52 | achandra | Qwell: yes |
| 06:20.52 | Qwell | What is the DS3 going to now, and what are you getting rid of? |
| 06:21.03 | j_vianna | t42X, I tried everything... caching, etc... |
| 06:21.09 | SwK | channelized DS3 for voice? |
| 06:21.14 | achandra | well...the DS3 runs to a place in LA called level 3 |
| 06:21.29 | Qwell | yes, of course |
| 06:21.34 | Qwell | So, it's a data DS3? |
| 06:21.38 | achandra | yup |
| 06:21.43 | *** join/#asterisk kab0b (n=asdf@S0106001195772f19.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 06:21.52 | kab0b | hello |
| 06:21.57 | Qwell | So, you could probably pull about...250 ulaw channels out of that |
| 06:22.01 | SwK | so are you trying to do 1 asterisk box or many asterisk boxen |
| 06:22.08 | Qwell | rather |
| 06:22.11 | achandra | and then is basically split up, into various subnets to offices in a large building |
| 06:22.12 | Qwell | 500, but...250 clients |
| 06:22.27 | Qwell | achandra: just the IP is "split up", yes? |
| 06:22.34 | achandra | yes. |
| 06:22.47 | Qwell | well, drop a few * boxes in LA |
| 06:22.56 | achandra | okay |
| 06:22.59 | Qwell | put them all on the switch with the DS3... |
| 06:23.01 | sonic2wb | iax is on 4569? |
| 06:23.04 | achandra | okay |
| 06:23.09 | Qwell | theblue: I generally ignore messages |
| 06:23.15 | Qwell | ask in public.. |
| 06:23.21 | Qwell | (unless you've got some money for me..) |
| 06:23.30 | NDT | lol |
| 06:23.33 | theblue | Qwell: Oh, sorry. |
| 06:23.35 | theblue | Anyway. |
| 06:23.45 | Qwell | I'll take that as a no then. :P |
| 06:23.51 | theblue | I do, actually. |
| 06:23.58 | Qwell | achandra: Did that answer your question, or? |
| 06:24.00 | justinu | he's gotten better, he used to yell at people who pm'ed him |
| 06:24.06 | sonic2wb | lol |
| 06:24.06 | Qwell | justinu: ;] |
| 06:24.12 | theblue | justinu: Whew. |
| 06:24.17 | Qwell | but then I realized msg = $ |
| 06:24.21 | theblue | justinu: Though what's yelling on IRC? |
| 06:24.27 | *** join/#asterisk _mwoodj_ (n=mwoodj@pdpc/sponsor/digium/hyper-eye) |
| 06:24.28 | wunderkin | LIKE THIS |
| 06:24.30 | wunderkin | ! |
| 06:24.32 | trixter | I realized this wasnt yahoo so asking to pm seems silly to me :P |
| 06:24.47 | kab0b | i have a problem with asterisk taking one call then ringing busy next time i try to call in to rings busy can anyone give me a hand? |
| 06:25.06 | achandra | sort of. Im such a newbie that Ive done a minimal reading ( which is a shi*y response to just about anything)...but Im trying to figure out what needs to be done to say setup the "numbers" the outside world sees and routing to internal lines. |
| 06:25.15 | achandra | and sorry for the flood.. |
| 06:25.20 | Qwell | flood? |
| 06:25.26 | achandra | rather long response that is... |
| 06:25.27 | Qwell | didn't see a flood... |
| 06:25.32 | Qwell | achandra: better one line than 12 |
| 06:25.33 | achandra | I hate being that versbose... |
| 06:25.44 | achandra | ;) |
| 06:25.56 | Qwell | achandra: So, L3 isn't giving you any DIDs or anything, just IP/bandwidth? |
| 06:26.09 | NDT | achandra: ok from now on we will make you pastebin responses LOL |
| 06:26.20 | Qwell | tinyurl pastebins |
| 06:26.23 | achandra | lol |
| 06:26.33 | SwK | L3 doesnt do direct DIDs last I checked... you have to be talking 6 to 10mil minutes for them to even consider talking to you |
| 06:26.51 | justinu | swk: 4 million |
| 06:26.59 | achandra | at least you wont ask me questions about the difference between hardlinks and softlins and their usage...:) |
| 06:27.12 | Qwell | achandra: Want me to answer that? |
| 06:27.14 | SwK | justinu what kinda $ commit us that? |
| 06:27.16 | trixter | you start oding 10M you can get deck rates as low as $0.003 to the US which isnt bad |
| 06:27.34 | NDT | justinu: remember those two pri I was screwing with...and we set the timing? Damn D channel still isn't showing on the second span... |
| 06:27.36 | Qwell | With symlinks (or softlinks), the file is stored in one place (where the link points to) |
| 06:27.45 | Qwell | If you delete the symlink, the file is still where you left it |
| 06:27.58 | Qwell | With a hardlink, the file is almost literally in two places. If you delete one, the other will still be there |
| 06:28.00 | achandra | anything to do with inodes...hint hint... |
| 06:28.12 | trixter | some file systems let you have a hard link to a file and delete one but leave the other |
| 06:28.16 | trixter | with contents intact |
| 06:28.21 | Qwell | right |
| 06:28.27 | Qwell | but with a symlink, if you kill the original...you're done |
| 06:28.28 | Corydon76-home | Not quite true... the file is still in only one place... there are just two references to it |
| 06:28.29 | achandra | when you create a file it is hardlinked to itself.. |
| 06:28.32 | trixter | but they share the same inodes |
| 06:28.35 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: I said almost literally. :) |
| 06:28.41 | NDT | justinu: But I can't do anything til tomorrow heh...stupid thing only autos for like 24 hours...then it shuts off completely...hate that crap |
| 06:28.55 | achandra | well didnt want to turn this into a unix session.. sorry |
| 06:28.56 | achandra | lol |
| 06:28.58 | Qwell | heh |
| 06:29.03 | Qwell | achandra: So, yeah, you'll need a provider |
| 06:29.07 | Corydon76-home | The symlink simply adds another level of indirection |
| 06:29.09 | achandra | okay... |
| 06:29.10 | trixter | typically only root can do hardlinks btw |
| 06:29.14 | *** join/#asterisk chapeaurouge (n=chap@85.201.81.201) |
| 06:29.17 | Qwell | trixter: oh? |
| 06:29.26 | Corydon76-home | Uh, no. Anybody can do a hardlink |
| 06:29.28 | achandra | thats a google interview question ;) |
| 06:29.35 | Qwell | achandra: really? |
| 06:29.38 | achandra | yup |
| 06:29.39 | trixter | cause there are some security issues. a symlink permissions dont mean the same thing on the link, with a hardlink you can literally have two owners of the same file with two sets of permissions |
| 06:29.42 | Qwell | well then... |
| 06:29.46 | Qwell | google, here I come... |
| 06:29.50 | achandra | lol |
| 06:29.56 | SwK | anyone with write access to target directory can create a hardlink |
| 06:30.07 | Corydon76-home | trixter: Uh, no you can't |
| 06:30.15 | wunderkin | google is building large offices out here in chandler |
| 06:30.19 | Corydon76-home | trixter: not with any implementation that I've seen |
| 06:30.26 | trixter | it depends on the filesystem and kernel in place, however afaik most restrict hardlinks to root (I dont know of any offhand that dont but havent tried on all the systems I have used) |
| 06:30.33 | achandra | for those still talking about hardlinks...how do those special dots relate to hardlinks with directroies...hint hint.. |
| 06:30.35 | trixter | cant what have two different owners? |
| 06:30.38 | Qwell | achandra: there is a bit of an issue with having this hosted in LA, and having a provider that isn't your ISP |
| 06:30.41 | trixter | I used to do that with sunos all the time |
| 06:30.47 | trixter | which is really the only place I used hardlinks |
| 06:30.48 | Corydon76-home | Remember, the ownership and permissions are stored with the inode itself, not in the disk directory |
| 06:30.57 | trixter | that depends on the filesystem |
| 06:31.18 | achandra | Qwell: the idea is if you havent guessed..is for me to turn into the ISP..data and voice..thats kinda what the aim is. |
| 06:31.22 | Qwell | achandra: Unless you allow reinvites (and possibly not even then), you WILL be using twice the bandwidth |
| 06:31.23 | Corydon76-home | Well, all Linux and BSD filesystems... |
| 06:31.57 | Qwell | So, a single "call" (two channels, where both are ulaw) will take about 160k/s |
| 06:32.19 | achandra | ..on the other topic...what ls flag tells you the whether the files are hardlinked or soft linked and when do you use hardlinks?? |
| 06:32.40 | SwK | achandra: so you want to be the ISP and the ITSP? |
| 06:32.47 | Qwell | -p? |
| 06:32.53 | Corydon76-home | -i |
| 06:32.57 | achandra | Qwell: okay..im a newb so ulaws..etc..where can I ramp up on the terminology?? |
| 06:32.59 | trixter | oh another limitation is softlinks can cross partitions (although most people do only 1 now ...) hardlinks must be on the same partition |
| 06:33.06 | achandra | ls -lia |
| 06:33.21 | achandra | and of course stat is pretty damn cool too. |
| 06:33.21 | Qwell | achandra: voip-info.org |
| 06:33.22 | Qwell | ~docs |
| 06:33.24 | jbot | docs is probably probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 06:33.38 | Corydon76-home | achandra: ls -iF will also give that information |
| 06:33.48 | achandra | that'll work to. |
| 06:34.18 | achandra | you've all answered google's one question amongt another 10 in round one of 8 interviews.. |
| 06:34.34 | achandra | welcome to google... lol |
| 06:34.45 | theblue | Ok, now, I've got one last question and then I'll go away for the night. |
| 06:34.47 | Corydon76-home | Yes, but a large number of us have no desire to work for google, especially now |
| 06:34.53 | kab0b | hey i'm having some troubles with my setup when i call my DID the first time it will answer the call then after that it won't take a call and just give a busy signal, what the most common problem for that? |
| 06:34.54 | Qwell | achandra: Should one assume you work for google? |
| 06:35.03 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: especially now? |
| 06:35.07 | theblue | Is it: |
| 06:35.14 | NDT | Qwell: LOL was gonna ask that |
| 06:35.37 | Corydon76-home | After Google has been implicated in helping China oppress their dissidents |
| 06:35.37 | theblue | exten => 55555,1,Dial(SIP/service/${EXTEN})? |
| 06:35.38 | achandra | nah... I just put in a resume..got a call back..started researching..and thought..well if there is an asking contest in town..lets see what round I make it to. |
| 06:35.40 | achandra | lol |
| 06:35.45 | *** join/#asterisk [av]bani (n=[av]bani@washuu.anime.net) |
| 06:36.00 | Qwell | achandra: and which round are/were you at? |
| 06:36.01 | achandra | asking= ass kicking |
| 06:36.05 | achandra | 2 |
| 06:36.15 | achandra | yet to get a call back... |
| 06:37.11 | Corydon76-home | There's a large number of things that you can legitimately do as a business that are questionable... but helping dictatorships oppress their citizens is one of the things I draw a line at |
| 06:37.19 | achandra | the question about using dd with 200GB of space with 180GB of data and finding the most efficient means for verification in the shortest period of time threw me. |
| 06:38.03 | Qwell | shouldn't be that difficult to verify |
| 06:38.35 | theblue | Nevermind that last question. |
| 06:38.35 | achandra | md5 takes...time... |
| 06:38.41 | achandra | yup |
| 06:38.43 | theblue | But what is important about _ before an extension? |
| 06:38.44 | Qwell | and won't work |
| 06:38.48 | Qwell | theblue: pattern matching |
| 06:38.48 | achandra | yup |
| 06:38.54 | theblue | Qwell: What do you mean? |
| 06:39.00 | achandra | there it is isnt it... |
| 06:39.04 | achandra | using find |
| 06:39.07 | Corydon76-home | CRC32 |
| 06:39.09 | theblue | Qwell: It says "HEY! THERE'S WILDCARDS IN HERE!"? |
| 06:39.15 | kab0b | can someone help me with a pretty basic problem? |
| 06:39.15 | Qwell | theblue: _XX would match 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 19, etc |
| 06:39.20 | Qwell | XX would match a literal "XX" |
| 06:39.27 | theblue | Ohh. |
| 06:39.30 | achandra | Qwell- you might do very very well there. ;) |
| 06:39.36 | Qwell | achandra: perhaps |
| 06:39.45 | *** join/#asterisk Igbothom_III (n=HiltonT@office.quarkit.com.au) |
| 06:39.46 | achandra | so far so good. |
| 06:39.50 | theblue | So if its like, 00435552, and then anything after it, I don't need the _? |
| 06:39.53 | Corydon76-home | I used CRC-16 at one time to store password hashes |
| 06:39.58 | Qwell | was that question multiple choice or something? |
| 06:39.58 | theblue | It could be 00435552.? |
| 06:40.16 | Qwell | theblue: . requires pattern matching |
| 06:40.19 | kuku5 | Anyone know what is the best codec for the grandstream gxp 2000 ? |
| 06:40.22 | Corydon76-home | No, you still need the _ if you're going to do ANY pattern |
| 06:40.26 | theblue | Qwell: Ok, then. |
| 06:40.26 | Qwell | kuku5: ugarbage |
| 06:40.29 | kuku5 | :) |
| 06:40.35 | achandra | Qwell: so far I work with glory of a powr hungry insurance company doing WebsFEAR stuff. |
| 06:40.35 | Corydon76-home | Only exact matches do not need the _ |
| 06:40.56 | Qwell | exact matches such as 1234, 9876, 5555, etc |
| 06:40.59 | *** join/#asterisk viLeR (i=1000@66.128.47.232) |
| 06:41.21 | achandra | Qwell: so the idea is to run multiple boxes for redundancy and load balancing off the same switch as the DS3? |
| 06:41.25 | Qwell | okay, I know the answer |
| 06:41.26 | justinu | achandra: java man? |
| 06:41.46 | achandra | java...yes gods gift to bloated languages.. |
| 06:41.48 | Qwell | maybe, heh |
| 06:41.59 | justinu | lol, i like java... it's websphere that's bloated :P |
| 06:42.13 | achandra | thats more accurate.. |
| 06:42.25 | Qwell | 200gb - 180gb = 20gb 20gb is easier to verify than 380gb |
| 06:42.39 | Qwell | if 20gb != 0's, then it's not all there |
| 06:43.03 | Qwell | achandra: and yeah, that sounds about right |
| 06:43.07 | NDT | Blah lets just say its there anyway |
| 06:43.23 | achandra | Qwell has it so far.. an then to save even more time no need to verify data that has "0" data in it at all.. |
| 06:43.43 | Qwell | well, you'd simply verify the 0's against...0's |
| 06:43.47 | NDT | And we can say it wasn't mission critical data anyway lol |
| 06:43.53 | Qwell | if there is a single 1...stop, and fail |
| 06:44.09 | Qwell | perhaps a dd from /dev/zero |
| 06:44.11 | achandra | Qwell: Would you be willing to take a look at some point or make suggestions about the topology of the network and see what would work best?? |
| 06:44.21 | achandra | basically I need architectural validation. |
| 06:44.34 | Qwell | achandra: I can try, sure |
| 06:44.38 | achandra | Qwell: the dd on /dev/zero is perfect. |
| 06:44.45 | NDT | You have to pm him with $ in the message |
| 06:44.49 | Qwell | :p |
| 06:44.55 | *** join/#asterisk KeX_WorX (n=chris@ng1.kurtkrenn.com) |
| 06:45.00 | achandra | do you answer pm's ?? |
| 06:45.03 | Qwell | not usually |
| 06:45.08 | NDT | with $ in em |
| 06:45.38 | achandra | yes the magic character of free enterprise.. |
| 06:45.46 | Qwell | achandra: Did they give you the answers afterwards or something? |
| 06:45.46 | NDT | lol |
| 06:45.51 | Qwell | and how long did they give you? |
| 06:45.55 | justinu | achandra: what's your plan for a PSTN gateway? |
| 06:46.26 | achandra | Qwell..they lead you to them..and if you're pissed enough youll look it up or...if youve seen it you CAN talk you're way through it... |
| 06:46.47 | Qwell | oh |
| 06:46.48 | trixter | justinu: there are also a lot of people that write code not understanding what it does internally and then complain java is slow. take String blah = moo + ojnk; where moo and onjk are also Strings. internally stuff is converted to StringBuffers then appended then converted back to Strings. there are much faster ways to do that, but most people dont know/care and like to complain :P |
| 06:46.48 | achandra | I have a good sense where all of their questions were headed though... GFS |
| 06:46.54 | NDT | Qwell is writing resume right now I think |
| 06:47.04 | Qwell | NDT: it's plenty updated :p |
| 06:47.08 | NDT | hehe |
| 06:47.16 | achandra | do it...nothing to lose.. |
| 06:47.58 | achandra | except that I truly believe a well packaged asterisk solution in the realm of VOIP will be a far more lucrative career.. and yes you can quote the newb ;) |
| 06:48.39 | justinu | trixter: very true. |
| 06:48.44 | achandra | Qwell: whats the best way to contact you? |
| 06:48.50 | Qwell | here |
| 06:48.54 | justinu | qwell is always here |
| 06:49.00 | Qwell | qwell doesn't sleep |
| 06:49.00 | justinu | 8 days a week |
| 06:49.10 | achandra | I am basically willing to spend an incredible amount of time with respect to this. |
| 06:49.24 | justinu | if you're willing to spend money, i can help ya out too :P |
| 06:49.39 | Qwell | willing to spend a large amount of time... |
| 06:49.43 | achandra | I basically need a walk through from machine type(s), cards, validation of network...and then Ill deal with implementation... |
| 06:49.45 | Qwell | yes, you most certainly do work for a financial company |
| 06:49.56 | achandra | but I'm looking for a clue first :) |
| 06:50.04 | NDT | yeah don't feel bad achandra...still figuring asterisk out too lol...sit here and watch Qwell and justinu talk hehe |
| 06:50.12 | SwK | I think theres a ton of people willing to help on any VoIP project for the right ammount of money |
| 06:50.13 | Qwell | achandra: Where are you located? |
| 06:50.17 | Qwell | SwK: indeed |
| 06:50.24 | SwK | and I'm one of them |
| 06:50.25 | SwK | heh |
| 06:50.27 | Qwell | indeed :p |
| 06:50.33 | achandra | unfortunately...the financial bs is ingrained... |
| 06:50.40 | Qwell | achandra: I would know |
| 06:50.54 | achandra | in L.A.. ( Ill appologize in advance) ;) |
| 06:50.56 | SwK | <disclaimer> I do work for an Asterisk centric company in Huntsville</disclaimer> |
| 06:51.02 | justinu | achandra: where in LA? |
| 06:51.11 | SwK | Lower Alabama? |
| 06:51.12 | Qwell | Los Angeles, heh |
| 06:51.16 | NDT | SwK: was that a cheap pop? hehe |
| 06:51.20 | SwK | heh |
| 06:51.28 | Qwell | lsanca...I should have /whois'd |
| 06:51.38 | achandra | Qwell: there it is ... Los Angeles..you're 5/5 on the questions... |
| 06:51.47 | SwK | NDT cheap pop and in lame attempt at self promotion? |
| 06:51.59 | SwK | as in rather |
| 06:52.05 | justinu | achandra: i'm in LA as well |
| 06:52.07 | NDT | heh |
| 06:52.13 | Qwell | extra credit if I say I am too? |
| 06:52.14 | SwK | heh |
| 06:52.24 | SwK | I used to live in LA |
| 06:52.31 | Qwell | Which LA? |
| 06:52.37 | SwK | Lower Alabama |
| 06:52.39 | Qwell | (stupid internet) |
| 06:52.39 | achandra | Los Angeles |
| 06:52.42 | Corydon76-home | Lower Antioch |
| 06:52.53 | Qwell | achandra: What part? |
| 06:53.01 | NDT | hmm..I live in UNY |
| 06:53.06 | achandra | well...more like San Dimas...land of Bill & Ted |
| 06:53.11 | justinu | ah, that's far from me |
| 06:53.29 | achandra | I drive to woodland hills everyday..50 miles... |
| 06:53.36 | justinu | wow, there's where I live :) |
| 06:53.41 | achandra | yum.....yuck more like it.. |
| 06:53.49 | justinu | you must work in warner center |
| 06:53.57 | achandra | woodland hills?? yup |
| 06:54.05 | justinu | small world |
| 06:54.08 | achandra | justinu...very good |
| 06:54.15 | achandra | you work there too or?? |
| 06:54.19 | SwK | UNY? Upstate NY? |
| 06:54.21 | Qwell | heh |
| 06:54.27 | Qwell | achandra: You're like right up the 57 from me |
| 06:54.28 | justinu | i work in agoura sometimes, and mostly at home |
| 06:54.28 | NDT | SwK: yep |
| 06:54.33 | achandra | nice |
| 06:54.34 | Qwell | ~10 miles |
| 06:54.35 | SwK | ndt how far upstate? |
| 06:54.38 | achandra | SWEEEET |
| 06:54.46 | NDT | about 45min north of Albany |
| 06:54.48 | Qwell | (and west on the 10 a ways...) |
| 06:54.52 | justinu | achandra: we should have lunch sometime |
| 06:54.55 | SwK | like almost canada upstate |
| 06:55.07 | achandra | before or after 605 |
| 06:55.11 | NDT | nah not that far...up by Saratoga Springs |
| 06:55.11 | Qwell | achandra: before |
| 06:55.12 | justinu | i like 5 minutes from warner center |
| 06:55.21 | achandra | so like west covina?? |
| 06:55.21 | Qwell | I'm ~4 miles from the 57 |
| 06:55.27 | Qwell | achandra: You nailed it |
| 06:55.32 | achandra | sweet |
| 06:55.45 | achandra | I could SO use your help.. |
| 06:55.51 | NDT | SwK: Well technically I guess I could get to canada in a reasonible amount of time |
| 06:56.03 | justinu | achandra: pm me |
| 06:56.14 | achandra | the story goes like this...thining of giving up my well paying job to completely jump ship into this.. |
| 06:56.26 | justinu | lol, me too |
| 06:56.27 | NDT | SwK: Why you in NY? |
| 06:56.30 | justinu | something along those lines |
| 06:57.21 | SwK | ndt: used to live in Jersey across the river from Midtown |
| 06:57.32 | achandra | basically learning asterisk, and getting at first a few offices setup..the "investor" as NO real ability to pay a healthy salary for more than one person at what a first year teacher would make.. but the potential is huge. |
| 06:58.23 | justinu | you wanted to be in the hosted IPBX business? |
| 06:58.25 | SwK | achandra if you are going to do a VoIP provider look at using a mix of SER and Asterisk you'll be much happier long term |
| 06:58.33 | achandra | Qwell: lunch on me...if we can meet and help a bit.. |
| 06:59.22 | achandra | data/voice services for small businesses..the service part of all of this is what is somewhat closely held..so cant talk about that too much here.. |
| 06:59.28 | [av]bani | bleh. h323 is no fun |
| 06:59.47 | jyukes | yo any1 having trouble with VoicePulse connect? |
| 06:59.53 | jyukes | lost my DIDs! |
| 06:59.58 | justinu | yikes |
| 07:00.25 | jyukes | been working great for long time |
| 07:00.33 | jyukes | today they don't even hit my server |
| 07:00.39 | jyukes | (says tcpdump) |
| 07:00.58 | SwK | achandra if you need a consultant that had done several VoIP/ISP deployments msg me and I'll give you the details and who to call for the NDAs to cover the ass |
| 07:01.55 | achandra | Swk: here's the problem...little or no money at first...its a start up.. |
| 07:02.15 | SwK | I understand that |
| 07:03.01 | achandra | But..the business looks to be successful in 4 months..and then its hiring time..to bring on 100 offices. |
| 07:03.09 | achandra | I just gotta get it up and running. |
| 07:03.27 | SwK | yeah |
| 07:03.29 | achandra | the requirements are simply voice, call forwarding...the basic stuff |
| 07:03.34 | achandra | with redundancy |
| 07:03.39 | achandra | of course. |
| 07:03.39 | justinu | achandra: you ignore pm's apparently too :P |
| 07:04.08 | achandra | damn sorry about that.. will answer. |
| 07:05.51 | jyukes | i restart asterisk |
| 07:05.51 | achandra | justinu: got back to your pm...still ther? |
| 07:05.57 | justinu | yes |
| 07:05.58 | jyukes | it will take 1 call from VoicePulse connect |
| 07:06.06 | jyukes | then after that |
| 07:06.13 | jyukes | VP doesn't even send me anymore |
| 07:06.21 | justinu | iax? |
| 07:06.24 | jyukes | ya |
| 07:06.29 | Qwell | 1 simultaneous call? |
| 07:06.33 | jyukes | just 1 call period |
| 07:06.35 | infinity1 | this is crazy. there are tooo many enum services |
| 07:06.38 | Qwell | or 1 call per registration? |
| 07:06.43 | justinu | voicepulse allows unlimited simul |
| 07:06.48 | jyukes | i have to restart asterisk |
| 07:06.50 | jyukes | to take another call |
| 07:06.52 | justinu | vp connect, at least |
| 07:06.56 | SwK | voicepulse connect? |
| 07:06.59 | SwK | heh |
| 07:07.01 | achandra | Qwell, and justinu and possibility of a face to face meet? |
| 07:07.02 | jyukes | (ya usually unlimited simultaneous) |
| 07:07.04 | jyukes | ya |
| 07:07.08 | jyukes | just started like tday |
| 07:07.13 | justinu | achandra: i'm down, but not driving to san dimas :P |
| 07:07.22 | Qwell | achandra: right now...pretty low. after ETel, things may be better |
| 07:07.27 | justinu | meet me at lunch or after work in warner center, we'll get coffee or something |
| 07:07.37 | achandra | justinu -- can do |
| 07:07.50 | justinu | i have a slacker job that gives me a lot of freedom :) |
| 07:07.57 | achandra | might even be able to meet you in the shopping center where there is a staples.. |
| 07:08.10 | justinu | i know it |
| 07:08.12 | Qwell | the staples center? |
| 07:08.19 | achandra | no..lol.. |
| 07:09.00 | jyukes | only thing i can think of : |
| 07:09.00 | jyukes | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:09.02 | achandra | i could actually meet you at pomodoro or whatever.. |
| 07:09.05 | justinu | i just turned up with level3 sip origination/termination |
| 07:09.13 | achandra | cool |
| 07:09.39 | achandra | ill try to grab as much info.. send another pm..and ill shoot you my phone number.. |
| 07:10.03 | justinu | i'm like not good with numbers and stuff |
| 07:10.06 | jyukes | justinu -- how much volume do u havE? |
| 07:10.15 | justinu | nothing right now |
| 07:10.27 | jyukes | dont they require big commitments? |
| 07:10.33 | justinu | yes |
| 07:10.40 | justinu | i guess we have 6 months to make good on them |
| 07:10.51 | justinu | i don';t know the details of that part, that's for other people to sort out |
| 07:10.53 | jyukes | how much like 1M mins? |
| 07:10.58 | SwK | hah |
| 07:10.58 | Qwell | jyukes: 4-5 |
| 07:11.00 | justinu | 4 million, as i understand |
| 07:11.03 | jyukes | o |
| 07:11.06 | SwK | yeah |
| 07:11.20 | SwK | L3 wants like atleasy 20 to 30K /month to talk |
| 07:11.33 | Qwell | $? |
| 07:11.41 | justinu | $25,000/mo |
| 07:11.42 | SwK | yeah |
| 07:11.47 | Qwell | k |
| 07:11.49 | jyukes | i called up wiltel the other day... chick said it was gonna be 100K/mo to talk |
| 07:11.50 | sonic2wb | whats the port for iax? |
| 07:11.59 | SwK | and thats just for LI or VT |
| 07:12.07 | SwK | dont even start talking ELS thats twices the price |
| 07:12.21 | justinu | LI or VT? |
| 07:12.29 | Qwell | sonic2wb: udp 4569 |
| 07:12.41 | achandra | justinu: email sent |
| 07:12.59 | SwK | Local Inbound (origination) Virtual Termination, Enhanced Local Service (w/ E911 etc) |
| 07:13.02 | justinu | ah |
| 07:13.18 | justinu | i'm not familiar with their names for the services |
| 07:13.38 | SwK | and dont even get me started on their shitty "Portals" for number ordering and LNP |
| 07:13.54 | justinu | lol |
| 07:13.56 | justinu | they do suck |
| 07:13.57 | SwK | you have to use Windows/IE on all their web crap or it wont work |
| 07:14.14 | Qwell | SwK: Hey, you guys coming to ETel? |
| 07:14.15 | SwK | i have to install VPC on my G5 just to use the LNP portal |
| 07:14.20 | achandra | justinu feel free to call..and we'll setup a time to meet. |
| 07:14.28 | SwK | qwell: I'm trying to make that happen |
| 07:14.47 | SwK | I doubt Twisted will make it, but I'm trying to get the boss to send me and the sales Drioud |
| 07:14.53 | *** join/#asterisk |[diLa]| (i=ALev__@server.ivinskis.kursenai.lm.lt) |
| 07:15.11 | Qwell | gotta love the sales guys |
| 07:15.21 | achandra | does asterisk have a "module" of sorts to determine what to charge people for international calls and such? |
| 07:15.36 | jyukes | so everyone hates Level3 |
| 07:15.41 | jyukes | how should i be talking to? |
| 07:15.49 | justinu | i don't hate level3 |
| 07:15.53 | Qwell | I don't think people "hate" them |
| 07:15.55 | jyukes | what company should i belooking at? |
| 07:15.56 | Qwell | just...annoyed |
| 07:15.57 | rabelais | where in my extensions.conf do I put the line "include => parkedcalls"? |
| 07:15.59 | justinu | the call quality is fantastic |
| 07:16.06 | justinu | they're just not interested in small time |
| 07:16.08 | Qwell | rabelais: whereever you need to include parkedcalls |
| 07:16.18 | Qwell | rabelais: Your internal context for instance would be a good spot |
| 07:16.30 | justinu | the PDD is sometimes a bit high |
| 07:16.33 | rabelais | like, where calls come into? |
| 07:16.34 | Qwell | PDD? |
| 07:16.39 | justinu | post dial delay |
| 07:16.47 | justinu | PRI is way quicker, IME |
| 07:16.52 | Qwell | rabelais: I don't think incoming calls need to get people out of the parking lot, do they? |
| 07:16.59 | Qwell | It's your dialplan...I wouldn't know |
| 07:17.11 | rabelais | :/ |
| 07:17.22 | Qwell | _I_ wouldn't include it in the incoming context though, no |
| 07:17.27 | rabelais | I don't know...I don't understand in the examples where they're indicating it |
| 07:17.30 | achandra | <--- soaking in the conversation..and learning..;) |
| 07:17.39 | Qwell | ~docs |
| 07:17.40 | jbot | it has been said that docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 07:17.43 | Qwell | achandra: good resources ^ |
| 07:17.58 | Qwell | ~thebook |
| 07:17.59 | jbot | it has been said that thebook is Asterisk: The Future of Telephony, released under the Creative Commons license and available at http://www.asteriskdocs.org << Read the book online! |
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| 07:18.38 | Qwell | ~mailinglist |
| 07:18.39 | jbot | i heard mailinglist is Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/ or search through it at http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives/search.php, or and there is also the Macintosh Asterisk mailing list at http://www.astmasters.net/maml.html |
| 07:18.42 | Qwell | -users is pretty high volume |
| 07:18.43 | SwK | qwell: have you met Dave our sales guy? |
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| 07:18.58 | Qwell | SwK: briefly, maybe, if he was at astricon |
| 07:19.10 | *** join/#asterisk EriSan (n=erisan@151.8.109.111) |
| 07:19.25 | Qwell | in the booth, right? |
| 07:19.33 | SwK | he's an ex coder/tech geek converted to sales engineer then sales |
| 07:19.42 | SwK | yeah he would have been manning our booth there |
| 07:19.48 | Qwell | then yeah, briefly |
| 07:20.07 | achandra | dave is at?? if you dont mind asking.. |
| 07:20.21 | Qwell | achandra: "at"? Asteria |
| 07:20.32 | Qwell | (sorry if I spelled that wrong, heh) |
| 07:20.42 | achandra | okay.. |
| 07:20.51 | SwK | achandra: www.asteriasgi.com where I work |
| 07:21.10 | achandra | googling...now.. |
| 07:21.14 | achandra | lol |
| 07:21.43 | Qwell | SwK: What was the other guys name that went to Astricon? I seem to have forgotten it... |
| 07:22.00 | Qwell | obviously not twisted :p |
| 07:22.03 | rabelais | I should put the "include => parkedcalls" in the same place that same context where my phones ring, right? |
| 07:22.20 | Qwell | rabelais: whereever you want to pull parked calls out of, afaik |
| 07:22.31 | SwK | Rob |
| 07:22.36 | Qwell | yes...d'oh |
| 07:22.51 | SwK | he's one of our very good UI guys... |
| 07:23.10 | rabelais | pull parked calls out of...as in retrieve a call that I had previously parked? |
| 07:23.14 | Qwell | rabelais: yes |
| 07:23.17 | rabelais | ahhh |
| 07:23.23 | rabelais | hehe, ok....thank you |
| 07:23.53 | rabelais | and in the places that I want to put them _into_ park, I need to have the dial line having a "t", yes? |
| 07:24.10 | Qwell | sure |
| 07:24.55 | justinu | achandra: i'll call you tomoree |
| 07:25.02 | achandra | sounds good |
| 07:25.06 | justinu | with voip of course |
| 07:25.18 | achandra | cool. |
| 07:25.40 | SwK | i need to find a good SIP -> H232 converter |
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| 07:26.41 | achandra | Qwell: thanks for your input..good reads on the articles you suggested. |
| 07:26.41 | Helpme | Hey all. |
| 07:26.56 | justinu | chandra: so you're a websphere developer now? |
| 07:26.57 | Helpme | Need some help with asterisk to asterisk. |
| 07:27.23 | achandra | justinu: a sysadmin |
| 07:27.33 | SwK | helpme: just plug in the phone cords you'll be ok |
| 07:27.36 | justinu | how much experience you have, if I may ask |
| 07:28.11 | Helpme | SwK: I am trying to get 2 * asterisk servers to talk to each other. can you help.. I am using IAX. |
| 07:28.35 | achandra | sure started with WAS4, WAS5, migration from WAS4 to 5, and migrated 383 systems for an insurance company in Brea before coming to Warner Center.. |
| 07:28.46 | Qwell | SwK: asterisk :P |
| 07:28.48 | achandra | so..its about 5.x years. |
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| 07:29.06 | justinu | brea... 21st century, right? ;) |
| 07:29.15 | achandra | maybe...;) |
| 07:29.15 | Helpme | i want to know how you can use switch =>> |
| 07:30.23 | achandra | justinu: okay..yes. |
| 07:30.26 | Helpme | never mind.. answered my own question. |
| 07:30.31 | justinu | heh |
| 07:30.31 | *** part/#asterisk Helpme (n=me@203.80.44.200) |
| 07:30.34 | achandra | lol |
| 07:30.45 | justinu | i knew people who used to work at 20th in brea years and years ago |
| 07:30.55 | achandra | anyhow..you're with...hmm..wellpointe? |
| 07:31.18 | Qwell | achandra: What kind of financial co you with now? |
| 07:31.36 | justinu | no, i'm with a small telecom company |
| 07:31.41 | achandra | ohh...started with Mercury in brea..now with 21st. |
| 07:32.13 | achandra | justinu: learning a lot at the telecom?? |
| 07:32.21 | justinu | i';ve been in it for 10 years now |
| 07:32.22 | achandra | Im so tired of insurance.. |
| 07:32.24 | justinu | always learning |
| 07:32.36 | achandra | justinu: sweeet |
| 07:32.42 | Qwell | achandra: try mortgage...heh |
| 07:32.50 | justinu | you stop learning, you get behind and have no edge |
| 07:32.54 | achandra | like Ameriquest>> |
| 07:32.56 | achandra | ?? |
| 07:33.09 | Qwell | bigger |
| 07:33.39 | justinu | i've got some contacts on the east coast for some upcoming 300-500 seat voip deployments |
| 07:33.39 | achandra | well..the "body" of knoweldge is what is missing here..too many fragmented pieces that Im in dire need of connecting. |
| 07:33.55 | justinu | hopefully, that will be my early retirement |
| 07:34.10 | achandra | holy sH*t ...sweet |
| 07:34.30 | justinu | big advertising and media companies |
| 07:34.44 | achandra | justinu: I can afford lunches..if you're up for some educating. |
| 07:34.45 | Qwell | justinu: It's like that in any industry really. Stop learning, and you're way behind |
| 07:34.52 | NDT | Qwell: What you a loan officer? |
| 07:34.58 | Qwell | NDT: hell no |
| 07:35.03 | justinu | unless you're a garbage collector, or something |
| 07:35.11 | Qwell | justinu: I guess, yeah |
| 07:35.16 | NDT | Qwell: IT there then? |
| 07:35.25 | Qwell | NDT: programmer, and now "telecom" |
| 07:35.33 | achandra | Qwell: well they arent counting on you learning...they are in it for you to make them money in their core area..mortage/insurance is not IT and they'll never get it. |
| 07:35.35 | Qwell | still a programmer though, heh |
| 07:35.45 | Qwell | achandra: indeed... |
| 07:36.03 | Qwell | but, we're slowly educating everybody, that with us, we can make things better |
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| 07:36.25 | achandra | sh*t...been there done it... if we ever meet in a bar..ive got some stories... |
| 07:36.26 | NDT | Qwell: Ahh...I was parttime IT and Loan Officer at one...hated that F'n job... |
| 07:36.41 | Qwell | NDT: yeah, banks are awful |
| 07:37.10 | achandra | but thats why Im like...I want to do something totally different...and define the wave this time and ride it..instead of being chased by it.. |
| 07:37.12 | justinu | i was a programmer, glad to be off that job |
| 07:37.12 | NDT | Qwell: Lotta friggin kids...but hell 19 year olds making 150k a year... |
| 07:37.20 | NDT | good ones I mean |
| 07:37.40 | NDT | but I hate talking to people on the damn phone LOL |
| 07:37.48 | Qwell | yeah, me too... |
| 07:37.49 | justinu | phones suck |
| 07:37.52 | Qwell | I don't know why I like telecom |
| 07:37.57 | Qwell | I f'ing hate phones |
| 07:38.10 | NDT | Making the shit work...is different then talking on it...Thats why lol |
| 07:38.17 | achandra | 150K in the scope of a 3 billion pure profit company is not equitable...sorry.. |
| 07:38.18 | justinu | i like making money by making it possible for other bucketmouths to yak to each other about god knows what |
| 07:38.45 | achandra | justinu: we're gonna get along just fine...LOL |
| 07:38.56 | NDT | achandra: These are little bastards with not even a G.E.D....just cause they were born cons LOL |
| 07:39.13 | achandra | ahh.. its F'd. |
| 07:39.43 | Qwell | what's wrong with not having a GED? :D |
| 07:39.48 | achandra | someone..just needs to package all of this up...Ive been a place where I can sell this stuff. |
| 07:40.03 | NDT | achandra: needless to say I am 34 years old...with a wife and 2 daughters...place made you feel like a slimeball...if you had any morals heh |
| 07:40.14 | NDT | I said they didn't have one Qwest |
| 07:40.20 | NDT | err Qwell |
| 07:40.28 | NDT | LOL |
| 07:40.30 | Qwell | yeah...what's wrong with that? |
| 07:40.47 | achandra | same kinda place..no kids yet... |
| 07:41.25 | achandra | IT - is a level playing field...and the internet makes it so. |
| 07:41.33 | NDT | Qwell: I found it hard to believe that these kids were allowed to sell mortgages without even a G.E.D. just seemed rather odd to me for a financial company |
| 07:41.34 | achandra | with or without a degree |
| 07:41.45 | NDT | achandra: I agree |
| 07:42.12 | Qwell | NDT: eh...they probably lied |
| 07:42.17 | achandra | lol |
| 07:42.32 | Qwell | not everybody graduates... |
| 07:42.48 | achandra | depth and breadth...thats what she said.. :) |
| 07:43.00 | justinu | that's one nice thing about telecom |
| 07:43.03 | justinu | degrees mean nothing |
| 07:43.06 | achandra | do you know it? and can you implement.?? thats the bottom line. |
| 07:43.08 | justinu | skills are everything |
| 07:43.14 | NDT | Qwell: I guess you would also have to see the calibur of these individuals also...I just hated the bait and switch and the talking out their ass and still selling a mortgage to poor granny SSN who barely makes it as is...but confuse and push her into a bad financial situation |
| 07:43.16 | Qwell | IT should be the same way |
| 07:43.33 | Qwell | NDT: That's called predatory lending, and is illegal. :P |
| 07:43.47 | achandra | being a former teacher..Ill throw my two cents in.. |
| 07:43.53 | mistral | degress and computer as well dont seem to mean anything anymore |
| 07:44.01 | justinu | just because it's illegal doesn't mean people don't get away with it |
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| 07:44.19 | achandra | now paper or degree will ever capture the full breadth or depth of persons knoweledge...the internet makes it so.. |
| 07:44.23 | mistral | its only illegal when you get caught |
| 07:44.34 | justinu | exactly |
| 07:44.42 | NDT | Well...they have been under investigation a few times hehe...but...owner owned another company had broker license taken away so now he is considered the (consulting guy) legal wise LOL |
| 07:44.43 | achandra | there are people in my field..with no degrees that walk circles around me.. |
| 07:45.04 | Qwell | I have one single cheesy MS degree, and I only got it, because a raise depended on it |
| 07:45.10 | mistral | achandra: what area ? |
| 07:45.17 | NDT | And seeing how much they make per year...(And doing the old trick of donating some tax write offs to the community) hehe keeps em safe |
| 07:45.38 | achandra | two areas\ |
| 07:45.46 | NDT | Qwell: I have no degrees so your doing better then me hehe...high school only |
| 07:45.55 | mistral | <-- does not have a degreee |
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| 07:45.56 | Qwell | NDT: I wouldn't say that |
| 07:46.17 | svenna_ | morning |
| 07:46.22 | justinu | i graduated HS, and said to myself "i'll never spend another day in school again" |
| 07:46.29 | justinu | and i'd glad too |
| 07:46.36 | Qwell | justinu: I said the same, after 6 years of HS |
| 07:46.45 | justinu | 6 years in HS? |
| 07:46.45 | achandra | college only gave skills to attempt to parse through info...nothing else |
| 07:46.49 | justinu | i was only in for 3 |
| 07:46.52 | Qwell | justinu: don't ask |
| 07:46.55 | justinu | yikes |
| 07:47.01 | achandra | and beer of course. |
| 07:47.10 | Qwell | let's just say HS was *really* fun |
| 07:47.14 | Qwell | </sarcasm> |
| 07:47.17 | NDT | Yeah budy of mine did masters in one thing bachelor in something else...now 34 also...I asked him if he was sick of school yet |
| 07:47.18 | justinu | lol |
| 07:47.39 | SwK | degrees are over rated |
| 07:47.43 | achandra | yup |
| 07:47.46 | achandra | totally |
| 07:47.47 | mistral | the people coming out of uni here atm with a degree come out and are absolutly useless to a company for a further 2/3 years |
| 07:48.02 | SwK | i'll take a guy with 10 years of real world experience over a PHD straight outta school |
| 07:48.04 | justinu | that's how everyone i know with a degree is |
| 07:48.27 | mistral | well in certin things normally computer / telecoms etc.. |
| 07:48.38 | rabelais | it sorta depends on the industry... |
| 07:48.41 | achandra | each of these "degrees" is based on an old model that put you in touch with erudite individuals to let you thinks and work on similar bodies of once considered erudite knowledge.. |
| 07:48.51 | rabelais | if you're talking engineering, you don't have a choice but to hire college grads |
| 07:48.56 | achandra | enter...the internet...now the degree means?? |
| 07:48.59 | SwK | other industries require them to intern for 2 to 4 years |
| 07:49.03 | Qwell | achandra: squat |
| 07:49.10 | achandra | yup |
| 07:49.17 | mistral | SwK: i dont have a degree and i used ot work with a bunch of people who were just out of school with a degree / phd. For a dsp company 1 of the guys said he had 3 years of c experience but yet didnt know what a c pre processor was ? |
| 07:49.52 | justinu | engineering is a place where the stuff they teach is actually applicable and important |
| 07:50.12 | achandra | its an archane way of classifying individuals with bodies of knowledge..nothing more than a tool for entry into places..it doesnt mean you know more or less. |
| 07:50.13 | rabelais | right, but you're talking about the cs industry, college grads are essentially useless |
| 07:50.25 | sonic2wb | I figured out my problem lag was to high to use Ulaw had to goto ilbc' |
| 07:50.44 | sonic2wb | works good no |
| 07:50.46 | justinu | sonic2wb: quality has gotta suck for you |
| 07:50.54 | sonic2wb | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:50.54 | achandra | ohh..yeah this is the asterisk site..lol |
| 07:50.57 | mistral | best way i have heard that discruibed is a degree is a little bit of papaer to say you are capable and willing to learn to this level |
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| 07:51.11 | sonic2wb | ulaw to proivder ilbc to client |
| 07:51.13 | SwK | mistral: oh do I ever know that feeling |
| 07:51.17 | achandra | mistral: pretty well stated.. |
| 07:51.17 | mistral | so if you can prove that another way most people now take it |
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| 07:52.00 | justinu | ilbc, eh... g729 sounds better, i think |
| 07:52.18 | SwK | i still havent found a good reason not to use G729 |
| 07:52.27 | justinu | because it's expensive? |
| 07:52.31 | justinu | stupid patents |
| 07:52.31 | SwK | (other then transcoding costs... just pass it thru) |
| 07:52.33 | Qwell | $10/channel is nothing |
| 07:52.38 | achandra | allright guys..i got a 50 mile drive tommorow..so im gonna turn in |
| 07:52.43 | justinu | night |
| 07:52.47 | Qwell | later |
| 07:52.48 | SwK | justinu: you only need the license if you are transcoding |
| 07:52.56 | SwK | screw that |
| 07:53.07 | Qwell | Is the g729 license a yearly thing, or is the $10 forever? |
| 07:53.09 | SwK | leave that to real gateways |
| 07:53.09 | achandra | Qwell, justinu..and the rest..an absoulte pleasure..and look forward to face to face. |
| 07:53.14 | SwK | its 10 forever |
| 07:53.24 | Qwell | yeah, that's nothing |
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| 07:54.22 | justinu | swk: you need the license if you want to act as a media server to g729 clients or gateways |
| 07:55.03 | SwK | justinu only if you are transcoding... if you are just proxying/passing it thru you dont need it |
| 07:55.18 | justinu | yeah, but a lot of stuff I do needs the codec |
| 07:55.20 | justinu | like conferencing |
| 07:55.25 | SwK | you can stream files etc as long as they are stored on the box in G729 format |
| 07:55.54 | SwK | conferencing w/ G729 is a BEAST as it has to take all the calls to slinear then back to 729 |
| 07:56.35 | Qwell | wasn't there some talk on the -dev list about that recently? |
| 07:56.52 | Qwell | like...if you have 2 g729 channels, and 2 ulaw channels...only transcode half |
| 07:56.54 | SwK | i rarely have time to read it |
| 07:56.58 | Qwell | and only once per codec |
| 07:57.25 | Qwell | I think right now it'll transcode it once per channel, regardless of how many people use the same codec |
| 07:57.30 | SwK | it would be nice if you didnt have to transcode the G729 at all if all the calls were in G729 just mix it, but I dunno if thats even possible |
| 07:58.13 | justinu | it's not |
| 07:58.56 | SwK | i typically try to force conf calls onto 711u anyway |
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| 08:01.10 | SwK | i have this big ass NMS box sitting under my desk at the office with enuff DSPs to transcode a Voice DS3 to SIP/g729... wonder if I could get it todo a massive conf bridge |
| 08:03.05 | kll | Anyone have an idea how to build a "redial" function with asterisk. If I call XX and I get congestion I could press "5" on my telephone which would make the PBX try to redial XX until he answer, when he does answer the PBX dial me up and bridge the call. |
| 08:03.34 | SwK | write an AGI to do it |
| 08:04.09 | kll | how do I catch dtmg signals in a call? |
| 08:04.13 | kll | dtmf* |
| 08:04.58 | SwK | in dialplan or AGI/ |
| 08:05.09 | kll | while in a call |
| 08:05.13 | Qwell | dialplan |
| 08:05.36 | kll | I want to dial up, when I notice I have congestion I press "5" on my phone |
| 08:05.43 | kll | how do I catch this with Asterisk? |
| 08:06.03 | SwK | background, waitexten whateve |
| 08:06.13 | SwK | which ever fits your needs better |
| 08:06.45 | Qwell | You know...I've never used waitexten |
| 08:07.06 | kll | SwK: I don't think anyone of them suits my needs. |
| 08:07.38 | Qwell | kll: unless there is something you aren't mentioning, either of those will do fine |
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| 08:08.29 | kll | Qwell: are you certain? |
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| 08:08.51 | SwK | kll: after dial check the dial status with a gotoif($[..]?..) if congestion, just to a priority to waitexten() say 5... that then calls an DeadAGI that will fire calls until the destination answers and then calls you |
| 08:09.30 | SwK | theres probably 10 different ways to implement this functionality |
| 08:09.36 | kll | :) |
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| 08:09.53 | hohum | la la la |
| 08:10.03 | hohum | are there any DID providers out there that aren't for shit? |
| 08:10.12 | justinu | not really |
| 08:10.21 | hohum | :( |
| 08:10.53 | hohum | I've got a SER box here talking to one of my DID providers |
| 08:11.02 | hohum | and Inbound doesn't work |
| 08:11.12 | Qwell | Sounds like a SER problem... |
| 08:11.14 | hohum | because the TAG in the TO changes between 180 and 200 |
| 08:11.27 | hohum | so I'm having to use an Asterisk box as a session border controller |
| 08:11.34 | justinu | eh? |
| 08:11.42 | justinu | tag in the to? |
| 08:11.46 | hohum | yeah |
| 08:11.52 | hohum | tag=blah |
| 08:12.09 | justinu | oh, ic now |
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| 08:13.42 | hohum | I should go back to Global Crossing, I never had a problem with their service |
| 08:13.56 | hohum | they're the only DID provider I haven't had a probelm with so far |
| 08:14.02 | justinu | you used level3? |
| 08:14.09 | hohum | yeah |
| 08:14.12 | hohum | I've used L3 |
| 08:14.17 | justinu | what problems did you have with them? |
| 08:14.28 | hohum | their interop requirements |
| 08:14.36 | hohum | it took me a month to get certified |
| 08:14.36 | justinu | oh, what's so hard about that? |
| 08:14.46 | justinu | took me a week :P |
| 08:14.48 | hohum | its a time consuming process |
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| 08:15.18 | hohum | for all the shit they put me through their rates weren't that great |
| 08:15.43 | SwK | L3 is a pita |
| 08:16.10 | SwK | and their interop sucks ass once you are thru it tho, there is no guarentee their production configs will match |
| 08:16.36 | justinu | that's true, but the ops guy I worked with was a great guy |
| 08:16.45 | justinu | (not interop, but full ops) |
| 08:17.03 | hohum | hehe |
| 08:17.20 | hohum | I was passing live traffic through their test enviornment for the longest time and they didn't seem to mind |
| 08:17.31 | justinu | yeah, they don't care |
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| 08:17.55 | Mimmus | good morning, how can I test return code from an asterisk app? |
| 08:18.10 | Qwell | Mimmus: what app? |
| 08:18.11 | justinu | all the alaws are coming alive now |
| 08:18.18 | justinu | and i'm off to bed |
| 08:18.27 | Mimmus | Qwell: txfax |
| 08:18.33 | kuku5 | hohum: Doesnt l3 have large minimums? |
| 08:18.44 | Qwell | Mimmus: does it set a variable when it's done? |
| 08:18.59 | Qwell | kuku5: 4-5 million minutes/month |
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| 08:19.09 | kuku5 | $\30k |
| 08:19.17 | kuku5 | or somewhere around that |
| 08:19.21 | Mimmus | Qwell: I'm unable to test if it fails to send a fax because destinations doesn't answer or it's busy |
| 08:19.40 | kuku5 | Anyone can do origination through them / |
| 08:20.01 | kuku5 | Qwell: I need to origination - the people I've tried always have issues |
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| 08:20.35 | kuku5 | Qwell: mostly with quality and then with tones - buttons that are pressed for some reason dont get through. |
| 08:20.41 | Camisa | I'm a noob and want to know if AT&T CallVantage through asterisk should work well. Here's the work I'm researching. Somebody please help me. http://aaltonen.us/archive/2005/11/21/voip-hacks-att-callvantage-unleashed/ |
| 08:21.12 | hohum | I hear Broadvox is decent |
| 08:21.17 | hohum | anyone ever use Broadvox? |
| 08:21.21 | Mimmus | Qwell: 'show application txfax' says: "Returns -1 when the user hangs up, or if the file does not exist" |
| 08:21.27 | kll | SwK: how do I go about having the congestion tones in the background while still being able to punch a digit? do I have to record a congestion sound and then do a background(my-congestion/10) ? ;) |
| 08:21.35 | SwK | congestion() |
| 08:21.38 | Camisa | hohum: I haven't... I have heard of broadvoice though... They sound impressive. |
| 08:21.47 | hohum | I know Broadvox uses Netrake on their network edge though |
| 08:21.51 | hohum | Broadvoice? |
| 08:21.51 | hohum | hehe |
| 08:21.55 | hohum | they're a customer of Volo |
| 08:21.59 | Qwell | Camisa: impressive indeed |
| 08:22.02 | hohum | and I won't touch Volo with a 10 foot pole |
| 08:22.04 | SwK | exten => _X.,n,congestion() <cr> exten => _X.,n,waitexten() |
| 08:22.08 | Qwell | if, you get impressed at not having service |
| 08:22.23 | SwK | broadvox... arent they one of those sucky providers? ;P |
| 08:22.24 | kll | SwK: ah, I though it would stop on congestion.. |
| 08:22.29 | kll | SwK: I'll try that out, thanks :) |
| 08:22.36 | Qwell | okay, bed time |
| 08:22.37 | Camisa | Qwell: really? I was just about to pay them $45 to try 2 lines... their Chicago proxy is only 10ms from my network. |
| 08:23.02 | Qwell | Camisa: heh...want me to grep my logs for "broadvoice" and "problem"? |
| 08:23.05 | Qwell | or trouble |
| 08:23.19 | Camisa | Qwell: can you recommend a substitute provider? |
| 08:23.53 | Qwell | okay, problem is definitely larger than trouble |
| 08:24.30 | Qwell | grep -i "broadvoice" /home/north/.xchat2/xchatlogs/FreeNode-#asterisk.log | grep problem | wc -l |
| 08:24.30 | Qwell | 151 |
| 08:24.31 | hohum | I can't sleep |
| 08:24.33 | Qwell | :p |
| 08:24.36 | hohum | I'm supposed to be in bed right now |
| 08:24.51 | Qwell | Camisa: my logs span about 9 months |
| 08:24.56 | hohum | Qwell: most of Broadvoice's problem is who they send their traffic to |
| 08:24.57 | Camisa | Qwell: sounds like trouble to me too. |
| 08:25.10 | Qwell | anyhow, bed |
| 08:25.24 | Camisa | g'night Qwell |
| 08:25.46 | Camisa | Will somebody help me with my AT&T voip through asterisk configuration? |
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| 08:28.03 | SwK | camisa: xpertvoip.com seems to be good and cheap |
| 08:28.12 | SwK | and asterisk friendly |
| 08:28.35 | Camisa | SwK: thanks for the tip |
| 08:29.50 | SwK | camisa: check your PMs |
| 08:29.58 | Camisa | SwK: I can't wait to start toying with my calls. I'm going to bridge a couple of cell phones to the PBX too so that I can route "in network" cellular calls for everytime my cell phone rings. It will save me minutes big time. |
| 08:33.22 | MGSsancho | lol |
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| 08:34.04 | Camisa | MGSsancho: I want it to work. I havne't found the equipment that makes it easy to bridge the cell phone into the pbx though. |
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| 08:37.55 | kuku5 | Wow: 3448P |
| 08:38.09 | kuku5 | These dell switches come out to 23$ per port ( PoE) |
| 08:40.22 | kuku5 | thats really good - assuming $15/ cube and $7 network port.. thast dirt cheap |
| 08:40.22 | Mimmus | I'm unable to trap NOANSWER or BUSY or any other fail after 'n' attempts with TxFax. Any suggestion? |
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| 08:47.11 | sonic2wb | What would the next codiec be to use if u couldnt use Ulaw |
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| 08:47.31 | sonic2wb | ~sex |
| 08:47.32 | jbot | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/ |
| 08:48.05 | Camisa | nice |
| 08:50.39 | kippi | hey |
| 08:51.12 | kippi | I need a ntp server so that my phones can get the time from my server, what one do people use? I am using redhat |
| 08:52.19 | sonic2wb | just used ntpd |
| 08:52.21 | sonic2wb | use |
| 08:52.22 | Camisa | I usually use pool.ntp.org |
| 08:52.30 | sonic2wb | time.nist.gov |
| 08:52.36 | Camisa | or tock.navy.mil |
| 08:52.59 | kippi | cool |
| 08:53.13 | Camisa | also, if you go through pool.ntp.org you can find the host closest to your network, and then just use it exclusively. |
| 08:53.20 | SwK | pool.ntp.org is he best |
| 08:53.37 | tzafrir_laptop | pool.ntp.org is Debian's default . Ubuntu defaults t ntp.ubuntu.org... |
| 08:54.01 | SwK | check out ntp.org they have different zones to use like 0.pool etc for geographic regions |
| 08:54.14 | perlmonkee | or... he could use his own ntpd |
| 08:54.29 | Camisa | that'd be cool too |
| 08:54.30 | perlmonkee | and not have so much traffic going out. |
| 08:54.46 | perlmonkee | and not have each phone set up to depend on a 3rd party source. |
| 08:54.57 | sonic2wb | What would the next codec to use |
| 08:55.03 | perlmonkee | you know... the ... smart thing to do. |
| 08:55.28 | tzafrir_laptop | well, there should be one or two NTPDs in the network to sync from the outside, and the res should sync from them |
| 08:55.54 | tzafrir_laptop | speex, if you have CPU cycles to spare |
| 08:56.13 | NDT | ntp2.usno.navy.mil I never saw this one not work in 1.5yrs |
| 08:56.33 | sonic2wb | What codec is the best for low bandwidth with good quality, ulaw is out |
| 08:56.40 | kll | SwK: is there a way to play Congestion tones but return control as soon as a dtmf tones are entered? |
| 08:57.00 | kll | sonic2wb: that would probably be G729 |
| 08:57.29 | SwK | kll doesnt congestion() do that? |
| 08:57.35 | sonic2wb | kll: how do u get and use it |
| 08:57.36 | SwK | I didnt think that was a blocking call... |
| 08:57.44 | SwK | it should work just like ringing() |
| 08:58.11 | SwK | hmmm maybe not |
| 08:58.14 | kll | SwK: ah, sorry, typo. I do Congestion(), it returns control. I do a WaitExten |
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| 08:58.41 | kll | or rather, I do a WaitExten(10) and so it sits there for 10 seconds |
| 08:58.46 | SwK | show application is your friend ;) |
| 09:00.13 | kll | SwK: show application doesn't tell me anything I didn't already know.. :) |
| 09:00.25 | kll | WaitExten always wait for x number of seconds |
| 09:00.47 | kll | I tried running ten WaitExten(1) after each other in the hope that it would quit after the first one, but it doesn't seem to work either |
| 09:01.34 | kll | perhaps it's the digittimeout.. |
| 09:02.24 | SwK | kll waitexten waits for an extension in the current context... so you would need to have a exten => 5.... that does what you want it to do for the autocall thing |
| 09:04.10 | kll | SwK: yeah, I know. I have a "5" extension and it jumps correctly. the thing was that it waited very long before jumping after pressing a digit. but now I've lowered the digitTimeout it works much better |
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| 09:13.19 | SwK | you probably also have a patern that matches longer extensions that start with 5 also |
| 09:14.47 | brookshire[home] | i agree! |
| 09:14.53 | brookshire[home] | heheh |
| 09:15.03 | brookshire[home] | woo! i need to sleep now |
| 09:15.04 | SwK | wtf are you doing away brooks? |
| 09:15.08 | SwK | hah |
| 09:15.19 | brookshire[home] | me and josh went to bumpers |
| 09:15.22 | SwK | hahahah |
| 09:15.24 | brookshire[home] | then ended up working |
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| 09:15.28 | brookshire[home] | lol |
| 09:15.33 | SwK | working at bumpers? |
| 09:15.42 | brookshire[home] | i know right! |
| 09:15.47 | SwK | hahaha |
| 09:16.08 | brookshire[home] | it payed for my drinks and dinner tonight, so i can't complain, lol |
| 09:16.19 | SwK | what were you doing? playing door guy? |
| 09:17.17 | brookshire[home] | washing dishes.. cleaning |
| 09:17.33 | brookshire[home] | we checked like one id |
| 09:17.35 | brookshire[home] | haha |
| 09:17.39 | brookshire[home] | it was a private party |
| 09:18.10 | SwK | hah |
| 09:18.32 | nfi|ermes | hi all |
| 09:18.33 | brookshire[home] | hey! |
| 09:19.17 | nfi|ermes | anyone can help to understand one thing in asterisk ? |
| 09:19.40 | brookshire[home] | understand we can asterisk ok? |
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| 09:20.12 | nfi|ermes | i should use command background to create a menu |
| 09:20.54 | nfi|ermes | i have seen the example on voip-info on how-to o it |
| 09:20.54 | x3msk8er | hi people, i have one begginers question |
| 09:21.33 | nfi|ermes | i should answer to accept what the user dial , right ? |
| 09:22.39 | x3msk8er | do i need PCI card to set up Asterisk or i can use VoIP Gateway? |
| 09:23.26 | brookshire[home] | either will do |
| 09:23.26 | nfi|ermes | brookshire |
| 09:23.27 | SwK | x3msk8er you only need the PCI card if you want to put TDM into asterisk |
| 09:23.27 | nfi|ermes | are you following me ? |
| 09:23.27 | brookshire[home] | menu as in ivr? |
| 09:23.27 | nfi|ermes | yes |
| 09:23.35 | brookshire[home] | background would say something and allow input immediately? |
| 09:23.43 | nfi|ermes | like the one in this link : http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+BackGround |
| 09:24.22 | _4d4m_ | hi all.. asterisk is refusing to accept calls from a user (over iax), claiming there is no context available to handle the call. the error message states it is looking for a context in the format s@[my-context], where [my-context] is defined in both iax.con and extensions.conf. can anyone help? |
| 09:24.52 | dant | nfi|ermes, yes |
| 09:24.56 | Camisa | What's a "free" service I can use to test my asterisk? |
| 09:25.17 | brookshire[home] | Camisa: free world dialup |
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| 09:25.39 | Camisa | ah... same one they recommend with mythphone in mythtv |
| 09:25.39 | Camisa | cool |
| 09:25.59 | nfi|ermes | i d like that after a busy call to any extensions, the caller listen this menu |
| 09:26.44 | nfi|ermes | my problem is: i called to a busy extensions, so the channel is no more ringing and the Anser() command doesn t work |
| 09:27.20 | brookshire[home] | what are you trying to do? |
| 09:27.23 | brookshire[home] | exactly |
| 09:28.18 | nfi|ermes | i d like that if you call a busy extension, you listen a lady that says : dial 1 to voicemail or 2 to speak with someone else |
| 09:28.30 | nfi|ermes | ;D |
| 09:30.30 | nfi|ermes | anyone understood ? |
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| 09:32.36 | nfi|ermes | yuhuu |
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| 09:34.33 | SwK | nfi|ermes: after dial() check dialstatus and then do what you need to do either hangup or proceed to your little menu |
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| 09:36.02 | nfi|ermes | and if dialstatus is busy....what should i do ?? dial again to have menu ? |
| 09:36.44 | SwK | no just play the menu |
| 09:37.03 | nfi|ermes | to play menu i need answer command , right ? |
| 09:37.07 | SwK | yes |
| 09:37.16 | SwK | well not really |
| 09:37.25 | SwK | early media rules |
| 09:37.34 | SwK | but you need to answer if you intend on collecting digits |
| 09:37.42 | brookshire[home] | ni ni |
| 09:39.40 | nfi|ermes | can dialstatus be BUSY after an answer command ? |
| 09:39.58 | nfi|ermes | or it means the answer command has not gone well |
| 09:43.11 | nfi|ermes | ? |
| 09:43.11 | SwK | show application dial |
| 09:43.11 | benjk | Anybody who would like to release LGPL licensed Asterisk modules may want to use this public domain released header file which provides an interoperability key: http://www.sunrise-tel.com/downloads/astlgplkey.h |
| 09:43.11 | trixter | um you are answering your own dial? |
| 09:43.11 | trixter | wow the case cited in the header file off eff.org is interesting I remember reading about that |
| 09:43.51 | trixter | nfi|ermes: are you answering your own dial? dial status is set by dial not by answer afaik, os if you get busy that is the remote system telling you that the dial didnt go through because the line was busy |
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| 09:44.21 | nfi|ermes | ok trixter |
| 09:44.29 | trixter | benjk: of course that also means that the key itself is useless and probably should be removed from the code base as it has no real effect at all ... |
| 09:44.50 | nfi|ermes | so, why my dialplan doesn t work after a di |
| 09:44.57 | nfi|ermes | after a busy call ? |
| 09:44.58 | trixter | I have no idea |
| 09:45.14 | trixter | pastebin the section of your dialplan |
| 09:45.16 | trixter | ~pb |
| 09:45.23 | jbot | [pb] a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
| 09:47.14 | benjk | in a sense yes, but that is not up to me |
| 09:47.15 | trixter | gah I want the UK pound to be worth $2 (or near it) like today |
| 09:47.15 | benjk | I only want to provide a convenient and easy to use means for those who want to release LGPL modules |
| 09:47.15 | trixter | cause I am expecting a bunch of GBP to be wired to me |
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| 09:48.35 | porche | hi |
| 09:48.35 | nfi|ermes | http://pastebin.com/497554 |
| 09:48.35 | nfi|ermes | trixter |
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| 09:49.06 | porche | any1 doing a voice detection on asterisk? |
| 09:54.28 | trixter | porche: yes |
| 09:54.28 | trixter | well how do you mean specifically |
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| 09:54.29 | trixter | speech recognition or voice detection? |
| 09:54.29 | trixter | nfi|ermes: the dial command is the one for extension 37? or some other one? |
| 09:54.29 | porche | trix, : voice detection + speech recog |
| 09:54.29 | nfi|ermes | yes trixter |
| 09:54.29 | porche | my current code is, record file then process voice |
| 09:54.29 | porche | but the problem is |
| 09:54.29 | porche | in some cases, as usual, the user starts talking late, |
| 09:54.30 | trixter | nfi|ermes: reload that page, I edited yourdialplan |
| 09:54.30 | porche | so system cannot process right, although all ok |
| 09:54.30 | trixter | porche: you may want to look at app_machinedetect instead |
| 09:54.30 | trixter | it is slightly more flexible in that regard, hwoever with the newman telephone one I have had the ability to detect by playing sound files in a background() not a playback() |
| 09:54.30 | trixter | I plan on combining all the detection routines into one app, just havent really worked on it any time soon ... I dont like having one for fax, one for speech, one for answeringmachines, etc.. detection should basically be consolodated I think anyway |
| 09:54.30 | porche | is there an agi command to control this? |
| 09:54.30 | porche | yep got it trix, this can bypass voicemails/pbx's cool |
| 09:54.30 | trixter | there are asterisk apps to control this |
| 09:54.30 | porche | but my issue is the detection must be in control logic / flow |
| 09:54.45 | trixter | nfi|ermes: do you see what I did? it jumps to n+101 so you have to define that, what was happening before was there was no place for it to go |
| 09:54.57 | trixter | so it didnt do what you expected.. |
| 09:55.17 | trixter | also if the phone is answered dial wont return |
| 09:55.38 | trixter | it will only return if there is a hangup (if you tell it to) or if there is an error in dialing |
| 09:56.04 | trixter | porche: well with newman telecoms one you can use a variable to count how many times you went into the talk extension and stuff that way |
| 09:56.05 | nfi|ermes | yes but the call was already going to [voicebox] context |
| 09:56.17 | trixter | any time it detects the remote person talks it jumps to that extension |
| 09:56.36 | trixter | nfi|ermes: but you didnt catch busy, suprised that it worked |
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| 09:57.16 | porche | got it trix, need to check it out, thanx |
| 09:57.38 | porche | trix, do you use silence detection in record to file? |
| 09:57.49 | trixter | depends on what I am recording |
| 09:58.17 | trixter | technically speech detection is the inverse of silence detection btw.. when there is no silence they are talking ... |
| 09:59.47 | porche | yes sure |
| 09:59.47 | porche | the issue is |
| 09:59.47 | porche | for example an application says the person to say a sentence |
| 09:59.47 | porche | which is usually at most 3 secs |
| 09:59.47 | porche | one way is to record only 3 secs |
| 09:59.47 | porche | other way is to record 5 secs but |
| 09:59.47 | porche | put a silence detection of 1 or 2 secs |
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| 09:59.47 | trixter | are you recording prompts? |
| 09:59.47 | porche | no, |
| 10:00.40 | porche | this is general voice detection + record + recognition |
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| 10:01.01 | porche | system prompts defined from wav or text2wav |
| 10:01.15 | porche | then for the input user says sentences or words |
| 10:01.20 | porche | rather than punching |
| 10:01.35 | trixter | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+Record specify some silence value and a maxduration value |
| 10:01.45 | porche | yep I know there, |
| 10:01.48 | porche | the thing is |
| 10:01.53 | trixter | ahh so you want to use sphinx or something |
| 10:01.56 | trixter | to detect what they said |
| 10:01.57 | porche | when I put silence detection |
| 10:01.57 | nfi|ermes | the problem is that, after * plays the voice , it doesn t wait an extension |
| 10:01.58 | trixter | correct? |
| 10:02.07 | porche | asterisk hangs |
| 10:02.09 | porche | trix, yes |
| 10:02.13 | nfi|ermes | trix, no still working |
| 10:02.16 | trixter | ahh ... |
| 10:02.42 | trixter | nfi|ermes: did you reload your extensions? |
| 10:02.49 | nfi|ermes | yes |
| 10:03.01 | nfi|ermes | it pass through your code |
| 10:03.12 | nfi|ermes | printing the no |
| 10:03.19 | nfi|ermes | noop |
| 10:03.39 | trixter | porche: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Sphinx |
| 10:04.41 | trixter | but the goto doesnt work? |
| 10:04.45 | trixter | lemme look at that |
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| 10:05.17 | trixter | remove that gotoif, it doesnt do anything |
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| 10:05.29 | trixter | and if a line is already answered it shouldnt matter if you answer it a 2nd time |
| 10:05.54 | trixter | but you shouldnt get there if the phone is answered becuase it will hang in dial until the channel is closed |
| 10:06.13 | nswint | hello my home automation system is one of my phones every minute I've put the following in my extensions.conf exten => 999999999,1,Hangup 999999999 is the address of the home automation system. But it's not working |
| 10:06.48 | trixter | what specifically isnt working? you hangup on anyone that calls that extension |
| 10:06.53 | kippi1 | hi, can anyone tell me how I bar an extension from making outgoing calls |
| 10:07.15 | trixter | kippi: put it in a context that doesnt have any routes to the outside world |
| 10:07.16 | nswint | calls are still coming in |
| 10:07.20 | nswint | from that extension |
| 10:07.25 | trixter | that is different |
| 10:07.36 | x3msk8er | can i use asterisk with Gateway, or it only works with Cards |
| 10:07.41 | nswint | Attempting call on SIP/2000 for 999999999@internal-origination:1 |
| 10:07.46 | trixter | what you showed there is what is dialed by any extension in that context, and when they call it they get hungup on |
| 10:08.03 | nswint | no it dials for the 60 seconds then hangs up |
| 10:08.09 | nswint | then dials again in another minute |
| 10:08.15 | trixter | x3msk8er: you can use it with pstn interfaces, voip and stuff that way |
| 10:08.22 | kippi1 | Thanks trixter |
| 10:08.23 | nswint | don't know in the automation system where it's set to dial |
| 10:08.28 | trixter | you dont need hardware cards to do voip (other than a network card of some sort if you want usable voip) |
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| 10:08.37 | nswint | but I want asterisk to hanup but it's not |
| 10:08.56 | trixter | nswint: what does it call? you dont put the extension and a hangup if you want to hangup on that extension |
| 10:09.00 | trixter | that is for when people call that extension |
| 10:09.22 | trixter | you have to put that phone in its own context that will hangup on it when you want it hung up on |
| 10:11.32 | nswint | trixter: it's dialing my extension SIP/2000 |
| 10:12.07 | trixter | then dont let it dial that extension |
| 10:12.10 | trixter | if it bothers you |
| 10:12.18 | trixter | why is your home automation system calling you every minute anyway? |
| 10:12.25 | trixter | sounds like a problem in the automation system |
| 10:12.29 | nswint | i'm not sure.. trying to figure it out |
| 10:14.49 | nswint | trixter: it has a default context of 999999999@internal-origination:1 that's not defined anywhere in my setup |
| 10:15.26 | trixter | well maybe you should look at definining it |
| 10:15.44 | trixter | keep in mind I have never seen your setup before, so I really can only make comments based on what you say here |
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| 10:33.45 | kippi1 | hey |
| 10:34.42 | kippi1 | I have a grandstream 386, I get a dial tone when i plug it into line 2, but when I press the button I don't get any voice menu and I can't dial *** any ideas? |
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| 10:42.01 | kjio | hi |
| 10:42.12 | kjio | how to make call from user to user in asterisk? |
| 10:44.37 | Camisa | Asterisk 1.2.1 is hardmasked in Gentoo.... should I still use it? 1.0.8 is the other version in stable x86 |
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| 10:47.20 | tzafrir_laptop | kjio, define "user"? |
| 10:47.33 | tzafrir_laptop | how do you want to initiate the call? |
| 10:47.38 | Camisa | What's "pri" support? |
| 10:48.26 | tzafrir_laptop | ISDN PRI. T1 or E1 channels (not what you normally call "ISDN": this is ISDN BRI) |
| 10:48.53 | tzafrir_laptop | When you want to connect many channels to the telco |
| 10:49.38 | kjio | tzafrir_laptop i have added the user but when i make call i hear my PSNT error say that no one with this phone number |
| 10:49.39 | Camisa | so I definately won't be using it if I'm just using asterisk to connect to a softphone? |
| 10:49.52 | kjio | the call routed to PSTN and not to the user |
| 10:50.20 | tzafrir_laptop | kjio, SIP phone? IAX? |
| 10:50.28 | kjio | sip phone |
| 10:50.41 | kjio | i have FXO gateway |
| 10:50.49 | Camisa | Will asterisk be able to record calls out of the box? or do I need an addon/plugin? |
| 10:50.57 | tzafrir_laptop | Camisa, no, probably not. |
| 10:51.18 | Camisa | tzafrir_laptop: are you on gentoo? |
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| 10:53.01 | Camisa | Oh cool... apparently, asterisk 1.2 comes with "automon" features. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+record+calls |
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| 10:57.53 | Gordo | Well guys, things have progressed a litle further than last night |
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| 10:58.26 | Gordo | But now I have a situation where I can call from Sip Phone 1 to Sip Phone 2 |
| 10:58.35 | RoyKa | morning, morons |
| 10:58.44 | Gordo | but I cant call Sip Phone 2 to Sip Phone 1 |
| 10:59.15 | Gordo | No firewall... Although I have an Aastra Sip phone which defaults to port 3000 for UDP |
| 10:59.50 | Gordo | I have altered it to 10000... could that have someing to do with it.... I have never had to set the RTP port on any other phone before |
| 11:00.39 | kjio | tzafrir_laptop how can i fix the error to make call from user to user ? |
| 11:02.33 | tzafrir_laptop | kjio, I'm a bit away. Anyway, my point is that you should first say what sort of "user" you refer to. I suppose that you refer to a SIP peer (e.g: SIP phone or soft phone), but not sure |
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| 11:04.51 | kjio | im using softphone |
| 11:04.52 | kjio | cten |
| 11:04.54 | kjio | xten |
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| 11:12.00 | cfh | is possibile routing the faxs incoming from different number called? |
| 11:12.51 | RoyK | cfh: possible is faxesch out routing number different not called the |
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| 11:14.47 | thazza | hey all. any one here? |
| 11:15.31 | RoyK | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:16.49 | cfh | RoyK: sorry but i dont understand very well |
| 11:17.00 | thazza | lol |
| 11:17.43 | RoyK | cfh: i didn't understand your question either, so i just answered with some gibberish |
| 11:20.34 | cfh | I have a bri with 4 number (ex:1234,5678,9000,10000) and 2 line and when arrive a fax on 1234 number i want send an email with fax to user1 mail address and when a fax arrive on 5678 number i want send a mail to user2 address |
| 11:20.50 | cfh | is possible? |
| 11:21.09 | Gordo | Has anyone ever configured an Aastra Sip Phone...? |
| 11:21.49 | endre | cfh: yes it is |
| 11:21.54 | endre | but dont ask me on details |
| 11:24.25 | cfh | endre :do you know where can i find documentation for this? |
| 11:25.33 | RoyK | ~seen wasim |
| 11:25.45 | jbot | wasim <n=wasim@pdpc/supporter/active/wasim> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 7h 10m 26s ago, saying: 'hehe'. |
| 11:25.45 | SERGEUS | cfh, http://www.google.com/search?hs=otZ&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&client=opera&rls=en&q=asterisk+rxfax&btnG=Search |
| 11:26.50 | endre | cfh: on voip-info i guess? |
| 11:28.11 | SERGEUS | cfh, you'll need to use rxfax - read something about it |
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| 11:28.32 | cfh | SERGEUS: ok thanks |
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| 11:40.20 | sevendeathlyvirt | hi all |
| 11:40.28 | sevendeathlyvirt | im new to this software |
| 11:40.45 | Gordo | Last calls for anyone who has setup an Aastra Phone...?? |
| 11:40.52 | sevendeathlyvirt | is there any link i can get to noob setup, for a lan? |
| 11:41.24 | sevendeathlyvirt | any one want to play Obi-wan to my kenobi? |
| 11:42.56 | sevendeathlyvirt | hmm.... |
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| 11:46.15 | trixter | flaco: I havent |
| 11:46.17 | trixter | er gordo |
| 11:46.19 | trixter | :P |
| 11:46.36 | trixter | sevendeathlyvirt: try this |
| 11:46.37 | trixter | ~docs |
| 11:46.41 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 11:47.12 | trixter | sevendeathlyvirt: that should keep you busy for a day or two :) |
| 11:47.12 | sevendeathlyvirt | hmm.... |
| 11:47.24 | welles | hi all |
| 11:47.32 | trixter | hi welles |
| 11:47.42 | sevendeathlyvirt | it will trixter |
| 11:47.51 | sevendeathlyvirt | thanks a bunsh |
| 11:48.15 | trixter | welles: you missed the anouncement of the compatbility header for making non gpl modules for asterisk such as using the lgpl or bsd license. http://www.sunrise-tel.com/downloads/astlgplkey.h |
| 11:49.20 | trixter | I even updated my do nothing bsd module at http://www.trxtel.com/app_bsdapp.c to use it now |
| 11:49.50 | mut | what kinda machine would be suggested for a wildcard 4xx |
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| 11:52.10 | trixter | muf: one with asterisk would be a good choice |
| 11:52.42 | trixter | do you want to process 4 analog lines only? are you going to do codec translations (ie convert to VoIP for example) are you going to do a lot of file io (recording/playback) |
| 11:52.49 | trixter | there are many variables other than the single card |
| 11:53.01 | mut | well |
| 11:53.14 | mut | i'm going to use it for 4 pri's |
| 11:53.31 | trixter | thought that was the 4 port module based series.. guess I was mistaken |
| 11:53.38 | trixter | ok, in that case, is this US or eu? |
| 11:53.38 | mut | i'de only expect 48 729 licenses |
| 11:53.54 | mut | and one ulaw and g729a will be used |
| 11:53.57 | mut | us |
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| 11:54.04 | trixter | you plan on using g.729? is this for a local lan? if so you may want to look at not using that, the savings arent that big for a local lan |
| 11:54.13 | mut | no |
| 11:54.25 | mut | it's for wifi wan and internet users |
| 11:54.38 | trixter | about 5kbps over gsm total ... close and off the top of my head but ... 48*5=240kbps |
| 11:54.48 | trixter | ahh ok, then the 240k might matter |
| 11:55.03 | wellng | what's your mean ? trixter :is anything wrong? |
| 11:55.05 | trixter | US or EU pri? |
| 11:55.11 | mut | us |
| 11:55.12 | mut | i'm just wondering the processor power |
| 11:55.22 | mut | to transcode 48 chans from ulaw to 729 |
| 11:55.38 | trixter | I assume pentium class is that correct? |
| 11:55.44 | mut | ya |
| 11:55.51 | wellng | trixter: i am welles |
| 11:55.57 | trixter | I would guess that you are going to want close to 4-4.5GHz based on what you told me |
| 11:56.05 | trixter | that can be dual core or SMP to get that high |
| 11:56.07 | mut | i was thinking i might as well just go for dual 2.8 xeon machine |
| 11:56.10 | mut | yea |
| 11:56.16 | trixter | becusae the tasks will parallelize easily so 2 2.5GHz should be fine |
| 11:56.20 | trixter | and not that much money |
| 11:56.31 | mut | ya |
| 11:56.36 | trixter | that should do it, however if you want to expand you may want to get slightly higher |
| 11:56.54 | trixter | but that should run all of that fine and still leave a little spare |
| 11:56.57 | mut | will take a while until i use 96 chans |
| 11:57.04 | trixter | I dont like to hit > 90% on a regular sustained basis |
| 11:57.07 | mut | thats a lot of customers |
| 11:57.37 | mut | wel not a lot i guess |
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| 11:57.41 | mut | ~1000-1200 |
| 11:57.43 | jbot | -200 |
| 11:57.43 | trixter | altough I have done that for hours when compiling stuff :( stupid open embedded garbage! |
| 11:57.44 | Theuni | howdi |
| 11:58.03 | trixter | the tilde is the action key for jbot, so if its the first char it will respond |
| 11:58.14 | mut | yeh i kno |
| 11:59.02 | Theuni | Does anybody run asterisk behind a nat using siproxd? I got it connected to the outside sip proxy from my voip provider but after one call I don't get it connected anymore and the siproxd configuration says something about a "username mismatch". I can't find anything on the web about that. |
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| 12:02.57 | puzzled | morning |
| 12:04.30 | mut | hm |
| 12:04.36 | mut | i think newegg is overloaded this mornin |
| 12:04.49 | mut | ah |
| 12:04.51 | mut | workin now |
| 12:05.09 | mut | past 20 min has been slow and getting asp script time out errors |
| 12:05.44 | puzzled | guess it's time to move to hp & apache |
| 12:05.49 | puzzled | php even |
| 12:06.41 | mut | hmm |
| 12:06.51 | mut | they don't even sell dual proc boards |
| 12:07.51 | joelsolanki | hey all |
| 12:08.21 | joelsolanki | i checked the vonage / broadvoice provides unlimited us/canada calling. how could they bare that rates :) |
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| 12:09.29 | puzzled | joelsolanki: have many, many subscribers most of which call less than 3 minutes or so. it's a numbers game |
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| 12:10.18 | trixter | jbot unlimited voip is not relaly unlimited providers generally have a provision to define abuse somehow and can cancel or bill you a higher rate if typically in their sole discretion they believe you are overusing |
| 12:10.22 | jbot | trixter: okay |
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| 12:10.38 | welles | hi trixter,my network is so bad |
| 12:11.10 | welles | trixter: did u use php_asterisk? |
| 12:11.29 | puzzled | joelsolanki: and as trixter just mentioned, read the fine print. there is no unlimited. they just call it like that but there is always a limit in the terms |
| 12:11.32 | trixter | no but I have used phpagilib |
| 12:12.05 | welles | trixter, but just now you show the h file for what? |
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| 12:13.12 | trixter | welles: earlier I showed the interopibility include file at http://www.sunrise-tel.com/downloads/astlgplkey.h so you can bypass the not so legal tactic that digium did (along with court cites to show why the EFF defended against this tactic when lexmark tried it) to lock the code into the gpl |
| 12:13.50 | trixter | basically they cant do that, the gpl doesnt allow them to and that enables you to write modules in GPL compatible licenses (according to the FSF) such as lgpl or BSD such as my do nothing app at http://www.trxtel.com/app_bsdapp.c |
| 12:14.47 | welles | i c |
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| 12:18.36 | mut | hm |
| 12:18.42 | mut | floppy drive costs more than a cdrom |
| 12:19.05 | mut | one as much as a cd-rw |
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| 12:24.29 | tengulre | Hi,all |
| 12:24.34 | tengulre | Anybody here!! |
| 12:25.13 | tzafrir_laptop | Anybody, you're wanted at the desk! tengulre's here to see you |
| 12:25.26 | Ahrimanes | hehe |
| 12:25.41 | tengulre | :) |
| 12:26.12 | tzafrir_laptop | tengulre, if you have something to ask, speak up |
| 12:26.48 | tengulre | I have many problem, but my english is bad! so... :( |
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| 12:28.44 | tengulre | My boss let me building a fax server under Linux with Dialogic card, but I only a little C/C++ language, anybody can give me some tips? |
| 12:30.14 | mut | hows a 1.4ghz opteron compare to a 2.4ghz xeon? |
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| 12:30.50 | tengulre | my problem is : does the asterisk support fax function? (without Modem) I m point board 's channel? |
| 12:34.12 | tengulre | Ahrimanes: do u have idea? |
| 12:34.33 | Ahrimanes | tengulre: not sure, havent tried fax |
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| 12:47.49 | HamYai | please |
| 12:48.09 | HamYai | anyone experienced with gnudialer? |
| 12:48.37 | HamYai | I just wanna apply the path "manager.c.originate.diff.txt" to manager.c |
| 12:48.46 | HamYai | but donot know how to |
| 12:49.00 | fugitivo | man patch |
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| 12:50.29 | HamYai | fugitivo: oh, thanks will try that |
| 12:51.27 | JunK-Y | HamYai: http://www.asterisk.org/developers/Patch_Howto |
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| 12:53.24 | HamYai | JunK-Y: okay, whats the difference btw -p0 and -p1 |
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| 12:56.42 | HamYai | thanks folk, got it now |
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| 13:04.11 | tzanger | morning |
| 13:04.34 | sivana | morning |
| 13:04.47 | sivana | I think I'm going to send this box back "/ |
| 13:04.49 | sivana | :/ |
| 13:05.48 | caio1982 | does anyone here knows some kind of failover routines in case of non-functional dial trunks to use in asterisk's dialplan? i'm trying to build one atm but would be awesome to see something already implemented |
| 13:07.01 | tzanger | oh dear |
| 13:07.34 | sivana | well... I'm not happy with the heat issue and the non-reboot thing |
| 13:07.40 | *** join/#asterisk leopardus (n=leopardu@217.22.180.154) |
| 13:07.47 | sivana | unless you want to keep going to 151 to hit reset :) |
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| 13:30.58 | Beirdo | 151? |
| 13:31.03 | Beirdo | as in Front St? |
| 13:31.12 | mut | as in bacardi rum |
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| 13:35.17 | sivana | Beirdo: correct |
| 13:35.42 | Beirdo | heh, it takes a Toronto geek to recognize the address of a colo from a simple number :) |
| 13:35.48 | sivana | :) |
| 13:35.50 | sivana | hehe |
| 13:36.25 | Beirdo | it's like 4 or 5 blocks from home for me (harbourfront) |
| 13:36.36 | sivana | nice |
| 13:36.45 | sivana | it's about a 3hr drive for me :) |
| 13:36.55 | Beirdo | and thankfully, work hasn't given me access to our space there |
| 13:37.07 | Beirdo | so I've never been asked to go there |
| 13:37.07 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 13:37.46 | Beirdo | ick. a 3hr drive into to the core of downtown |
| 13:37.53 | Beirdo | no wonder you want to return the box |
| 13:38.30 | sivana | I have to do a bit more benchmarking on the box first |
| 13:38.44 | sivana | it does have remote power reboot |
| 13:39.01 | Beirdo | I feel for you, I used to have colo space in Ottawa |
| 13:39.08 | Beirdo | then I moved to Toronto |
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| 13:39.17 | Beirdo | a 5.5h drive to reboot a box SUCKS |
| 13:39.30 | znoG | haha |
| 13:39.42 | Beirdo | then you gotta drive back |
| 13:39.44 | znoG | then you leave |
| 13:39.47 | znoG | and it locks up again |
| 13:39.53 | glock | Anyone know how i specify a channel... getting this --> Executing PickUp("SIP/101-612d", "") in new stack |
| 13:39.53 | glock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.58 | Beirdo | so I took it outta there and went with a linode |
| 13:40.46 | Beirdo | anyways, I'd better move my butt and get to work |
| 13:41.13 | sivana | :) |
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| 13:47.04 | KeX_WorX | hi |
| 13:47.21 | KeX_WorX | how can I connect two asterisk via SIP ? |
| 13:47.56 | trixter | one side does dial() the other does answer() |
| 13:50.15 | fugitivo | KeX_WorX: why sip? try iax :) |
| 13:50.59 | leopardus | ... |
| 13:51.32 | Katty | mew. |
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| 13:54.08 | fugitivo | Katty: woof |
| 13:54.38 | tzanger | morning katty |
| 13:56.37 | KeX_WorX | fugitivo, sip because I just compiled asterisk with srtp support and therefore I need sip |
| 13:56.37 | Katty | so tired :< |
| 13:56.50 | tzanger | yeah me too |
| 13:57.00 | tzanger | we should go to bed ;-) |
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| 13:57.07 | Katty | k |
| 13:57.16 | tzanger | you could tell me if my new cologne is any good |
| 13:57.18 | Katty | bouncer. |
| 13:57.22 | iDunno | # I am not your carpet ride |
| 13:57.22 | tzanger | I'm not sold on it yet |
| 13:57.24 | Katty | tzanger: oh, that's easy. |
| 13:57.26 | iDunno | # I am the skyyyyyyyy |
| 13:57.27 | Katty | tzanger: it's awful. |
| 13:57.34 | tzanger | Katty: hey now |
| 13:57.56 | Katty | tzanger: don't take it personally..just about all men's cologne is awful. |
| 13:58.12 | Katty | tzanger: if i were, ditch the cologne and bake something instead. |
| 13:58.13 | thazza | - |
| 13:58.16 | Katty | tzanger: you'll smell much better. |
| 13:58.23 | Katty | s/were/were you/ |
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| 13:58.50 | tzanger | I used to wear Sung Homme but now I have been told that Armani Mania is the new hotness |
| 13:59.08 | fourcheeze | anyone using tcp from sip connections? |
| 13:59.13 | fourcheeze | s/from/for |
| 13:59.18 | tzanger | I am not sold on it yet but it does smell okay after about 8 hours of wearing it |
| 13:59.22 | Katty | armania isn't even hot |
| 13:59.24 | bweschke | fourcheeze: not with asterisk, no |
| 13:59.27 | Katty | i mean armani |
| 13:59.36 | fourcheeze | just noticed that 1.2 seems to have tcp |
| 13:59.48 | fourcheeze | wondering how much slower that would be |
| 13:59.55 | fourcheeze | and weather it helps with the nat situation |
| 14:03.13 | Mimmus | I'm having problems to check error conditions from TxFax app. How can I check if destination failes (BUSY, NOANSWER, etc)? |
| 14:05.00 | _4d4m_ | hi all.. asterisk is refusing to accept calls from a user (over iax), claiming there is no context available to handle the call, but there is. problem is, asterisk is looking for s@[my-context], rather than [my-context]. any ideas? |
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| 14:06.26 | fugitivo | _4d4m_: add an s extension in that context |
| 14:06.49 | fugitivo | _4d4m_: if no extension specified, asterisk will look for the s extension |
| 14:07.33 | _4d4m_ | fugitivo: thanks mate.. much appreciated. |
| 14:08.44 | Voxel | Blob XXX at www.idpz.net/tomytom/xxx.htm |
| 14:09.11 | tzanger | file: around? |
| 14:09.16 | tzanger | file[laptop]: around? |
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| 14:09.45 | loko | file you around? |
| 14:10.19 | tzanger | heh |
| 14:11.14 | Katty | file's not here |
| 14:11.16 | Katty | he's napping |
| 14:12.39 | zoa | at your place ?! |
| 14:12.43 | zoa | very suspicious!!! |
| 14:16.03 | Katty | calm your tail down, zoa |
| 14:16.27 | zoa | :) |
| 14:16.30 | Katty | we have any germans in here? |
| 14:16.38 | tzanger | ich sprecht ein bissien |
| 14:16.57 | Katty | tzanger: i'm just looking for a german recipe. |
| 14:17.01 | Katty | tzanger: you don't qualify. |
| 14:17.02 | tzanger | which recipe? |
| 14:17.16 | tzanger | german cooking ROCKS |
| 14:17.28 | Katty | any recipe |
| 14:17.34 | Katty | i just want something german. |
| 14:17.41 | tzanger | hmm |
| 14:17.46 | tzanger | you wouldn't want rolladen |
| 14:17.57 | fourcheeze | what's a German cooking rock? |
| 14:18.21 | tzanger | come to think of it all my german foods are heavily based on meat |
| 14:18.27 | tzanger | except for maybe the desserts |
| 14:18.40 | Katty | rolladen is just rolled up meat stuffs |
| 14:18.50 | Katty | i somehow think i'm not eating that anytime soon |
| 14:18.59 | tzanger | yeah I do not think you could tofu that easily |
| 14:19.15 | tzanger | coffee cake, strudel, her very special birthday cake... her bread... dammit |
| 14:19.28 | Katty | tofu is awful by itself. |
| 14:19.41 | Katty | think of tofu as an ingredient, like flour. |
| 14:19.43 | tzanger | well tofu is a filler, a bulking agent |
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| 14:19.56 | tzanger | yes I know but as I said I think it'd be difficult to tofu-up rolladen |
| 14:20.07 | iDunno | why have tofu when you can have... pork, beef, chicken, turkey, porcupine... ;) |
| 14:20.26 | Katty | iDunno: because i love the pretty animals. |
| 14:20.33 | tzanger | well no tofu in korean food is quite good |
| 14:20.38 | Katty | and the not so pretty ones too |
| 14:20.47 | tzanger | the spices in the food get picked up by the tofu and it's good |
| 14:21.03 | iDunno | Katty: I love the pretty animals... doesn't mean that I can't eat the damned things though ;) |
| 14:21.28 | Katty | iDunno: your call. |
| 14:22.00 | djMax | so I need a VOIP backup for our PRI. Broadvoice recommended? |
| 14:22.05 | iDunno | and I didn't even hear the phone ring! damn, you're good :) |
| 14:22.13 | fourcheeze | Katty: do you have any animal products? |
| 14:22.30 | idpromnut | Katty: you'll not find many german recipes without meat in them (aside from desserts, and say, sauerkraut :) |
| 14:23.10 | Katty | i'm so not getting into this /again/ |
| 14:23.15 | fourcheeze | last time I was in Germany I managed to get hold of real Black Forest Gateaux |
| 14:23.21 | fourcheeze | now that was really something |
| 14:23.51 | Katty | idpromnut: so? |
| 14:23.52 | fourcheeze | compared to the feeble impressions we get here |
| 14:24.07 | Katty | idpromnut: i'm not goign to let that discourage me. |
| 14:24.16 | trixter | I like how plants are sentient or at least they appear to be |
| 14:24.30 | tzanger | my mom makes black forest cake |
| 14:24.35 | tzanger | it's good but it's not my favourite |
| 14:24.54 | tzanger | My grandmother's birthday cake was the best |
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| 14:24.54 | trixter | they did some studies where plants were giving off weird electical signals when connected to effectively eeg machines (although the electrodes were connected differently they were about that sensitive) |
| 14:24.54 | Katty | tzanger: you and your extra vowels. |
| 14:25.00 | idpromnut | Katty: lol. Good stuff. :) The desserts are fantastic... my mom usually bakes around 20 different kinds of them for christmas time |
| 14:25.06 | trixter | and the plants responded to what was going on in the room, while they may not be totally sentient they appeared to have a pretty good understanding of what was going on |
| 14:25.24 | tzanger | three layer white cake with a kind of vanilla/mandarin icing, decorated with mandarin slices and whipped cream "buds" |
| 14:25.32 | tzanger | she always cut the middle of the cake out and gave it to the birthday person |
| 14:25.35 | Katty | tzanger: careful, dear. |
| 14:25.36 | tzanger | I still don't know how the hell she did that |
| 14:25.40 | Katty | tzanger: you're goign to start drooling. |
| 14:25.49 | trixter | my mom is maiing my friends wedding cake and its going to be multiple layer with one layer at least being chocolate and rasberry |
| 14:25.50 | tzanger | her birthday cake doesn't make me drool |
| 14:25.53 | tzanger | rolladen makes me drool |
| 14:25.57 | tzanger | oops there I go again |
| 14:26.00 | Katty | tzanger: you're talking about food. |
| 14:26.03 | tzanger | ~gaaaaaaahhhhhhh~ |
| 14:26.06 | trixter | not sure if the upper layer will be angel food or not |
| 14:26.07 | Katty | tzanger: see. |
| 14:26.08 | trixter | MADE WITH REAL ANGELS! |
| 14:26.22 | Katty | trixter: funny you say that. |
| 14:26.28 | Katty | trixter: my name means angel of laughter. |
| 14:26.29 | tzanger | trixter: my grandmother in law made our wedding cake... I was talking to her on the computer while she was making it |
| 14:26.46 | tzanger | you could tell she was doing the whole "some rum for the cake... some rum for me... some rum for the cake... some rum for me" |
| 14:27.01 | tzanger | homemade fruitcake wedding cake. I didn't have the heart to tell her we both absolutely hated fruitcake |
| 14:27.04 | Katty | rum actually smells kinda good. |
| 14:27.14 | trixter | my mom did a prototype to show off different types of decorations and it appears what was decided was 'pepermint roses' while not flavoured pepermint it is red/white stripped |
| 14:27.14 | tzanger | I'm a whiskey man |
| 14:27.24 | Katty | alchohol smells awful. |
| 14:27.25 | cypromis | I prefer wodka |
| 14:27.34 | tzanger | wodka is good |
| 14:27.36 | tzanger | rye is better |
| 14:27.41 | Katty | rye toast. |
| 14:27.43 | tzanger | beer's a good light drink |
| 14:27.48 | tzanger | rye bread toast is amazing |
| 14:27.49 | Katty | with tomato |
| 14:27.53 | tzanger | light rye sweedish bread |
| 14:27.53 | cypromis | too much water |
| 14:27.54 | trixter | yes rye toast with 100% daily allowance of ergot |
| 14:27.55 | cypromis | in beer |
| 14:27.56 | trixter | :P |
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| 14:28.56 | tzanger | ok brand new, the vehicle reviews say 18/25 |
| 14:29.10 | tzanger | that's 13l/100km... wtf |
| 14:29.20 | tzanger | highway is 9.4 |
| 14:29.22 | trixter | Katty: lessee.. vegan.. hmm.. you put so many restrictions on me |
| 14:29.27 | tzanger | so I guess the damn thing is right on spec |
| 14:29.29 | tzanger | that sucks |
| 14:29.33 | trixter | miso soup isnt bad dont have to make it with the fish broth base |
| 14:29.36 | tzanger | miso |
| 14:29.37 | tzanger | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 14:29.49 | tzanger | I love miso at the Seul Soul restaurant here |
| 14:29.49 | trixter | then its just soybean and tofu, seaweed, and if you want some daikon |
| 14:29.59 | tzanger | there are so many variants but theirs is awesome |
| 14:30.04 | tzanger | same with their dolsut bibimbap |
| 14:30.12 | tzanger | and beef gulgoki |
| 14:30.18 | trixter | flied lice isnt bad either, just dont add a fried egg in there or any meat |
| 14:31.32 | [TK]D-Fender | mmm miso.... I've got a batch to make this week... |
| 14:31.56 | Katty | hrmm. |
| 14:31.59 | Katty | i'm just not a soup person |
| 14:32.07 | trixter | vegan is hard cause no milk, egg, etc |
| 14:32.08 | tzanger | miso isn't soup |
| 14:32.15 | tzanger | it's just a nice little appetizer |
| 14:32.27 | [TK]D-Fender | trixter : Should have the egg! On of the more traditional forms I like is fried rice with shicken & salted fish... |
| 14:32.39 | trixter | hot spinach salad isnt bad |
| 14:32.56 | trixter | dunno exactly how to make it but you cook the spinach and stuff with hot oil and make it wilted |
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| 14:33.07 | tzanger | cooked spinach is kind of yuck |
| 14:33.14 | tzanger | I like raw spinach in my pseudo greek salad |
| 14:33.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Spinach wilts all by itself with heat ;) |
| 14:33.19 | trixter | nah its big leaves its not cooked to death |
| 14:33.25 | trixter | its mostly raw still but not 100% |
| 14:33.39 | trixter | yeah you pour a hot oil on it and that does it |
| 14:33.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Another chinese spinah I'd like to learn is sugared up crispy spinach :) |
| 14:34.32 | Katty | hmm. what about a casserole? |
| 14:34.44 | Katty | don't people eat casseroles anymore? |
| 14:35.00 | iDunno | hmmm. pork casserole :) |
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| 14:36.45 | trixter | green bean casserole |
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| 14:36.58 | trixter | dunno if the onion things are vegan though |
| 14:36.59 | trixter | prolly not |
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| 14:37.59 | djMax | pick a winner: broadvoice or voicepulse? |
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| 14:39.04 | Katty | trixter: they are! |
| 14:39.07 | trixter | djMax: but you leave me with no clear choice! |
| 14:39.21 | djMax | ok, or another winner. :) |
| 14:39.24 | trixter | Katty: ok there is one item |
| 14:39.39 | Katty | trixter: yay, ihave a side dish! |
| 14:40.04 | trixter | Katty: for me this is really hard cause if I dont eat meat at least once per day I actually feel ill (seriously) I typically need to eat at least 1/2 pound of meat per day |
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| 14:40.14 | trixter | so vegan stuff isnt high on my list |
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| 14:40.32 | djMax | I guess Skype isn't really an option, so there's gotta be somethin'. |
| 14:40.37 | Katty | trixter: that's the protein |
| 14:40.46 | Katty | trixter: and there are plenty sources of protein other than meat |
| 14:40.53 | Katty | trixter: do what you want though |
| 14:40.58 | KeX_WorX | can someone give me some advice how i can set up a sip connection between two asterisk boxes? |
| 14:41.09 | djMax | why SIP as opposed to IAX? |
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| 14:41.18 | trixter | it doesnt matter where I get protien from, its gotta be meat and generally steak |
| 14:41.22 | trixter | chicken doesnt cut it as much |
| 14:41.33 | trixter | but meh |
| 14:41.36 | KeX_WorX | djMax, cause I want to test if my asterisk can speak srtp |
| 14:41.42 | trixter | lessee.. what else.. vegan recipies are hard |
| 14:41.43 | djMax | ah. |
| 14:41.59 | djMax | so seriously, nobody wants to actually *recommend* a voip provider in here?!? |
| 14:42.02 | Mimmus | if an Asterisk application returns '-1', how can I check this in the dialplan? |
| 14:42.04 | trixter | KeX_WorX: one does dial() the other does answer() |
| 14:42.22 | KeX_WorX | trixter, should i do that on the cli? |
| 14:43.20 | trixter | I was thinking more like a dialplan thing but you can do the dial from the cli |
| 14:43.25 | trixter | however the answer you wont be able to do ... |
| 14:45.15 | tzanger | djMax: I use nufone, asterlink, voctel and unlimitel |
| 14:45.28 | tzanger | I do not work for any of them |
| 14:45.39 | tzanger | Mimmus: you don't |
| 14:45.49 | Mimmus | tzanger: ? |
| 14:46.10 | tzanger | you cannot get access to the result codes. this was partially started, and is being completely phased out |
| 14:46.29 | tzanger | I don't agree with it but I'm just a small fry :-) |
| 14:46.31 | blitzrage | shit! |
| 14:46.37 | tzanger | blitzrage: don't need to! |
| 14:46.38 | blitzrage | my monitor is changing colours |
| 14:46.43 | blitzrage | tzanger: lol |
| 14:47.01 | Mimmus | tzanger: uh! and how can I check if TxFax had an error sending a fax? |
| 14:47.35 | blitzrage | tzanger: I have a bad feeling I'm going to have to get an expensive LCD soon... :( |
| 14:47.39 | kippi | hey |
| 14:47.49 | glock | Anyone got an issue when using AMP recieving a call from a ZAP channel that it takes forever to ring on SIP. Goes through the whole dialparties.agi and then rings |
| 14:47.54 | fugitivo | blitzrage: that's a good feeling! |
| 14:47.56 | blitzrage | tzanger: this Sony Trinitron 21" has outlasted what I ever expected |
| 14:48.01 | fugitivo | ~amp |
| 14:48.08 | jbot | well, amp is NOT supported here! people using it should join #amportal |
| 14:48.08 | kippi | has anyone got some software for wav to gsm |
| 14:48.08 | blitzrage | fugitivo: actualy... I prefer CRTs :) |
| 14:48.08 | kippi | ? |
| 14:48.12 | tzanger | blitzrage: I have one of those |
| 14:48.23 | blitzrage | tzanger: yah... great monitor |
| 14:48.23 | fugitivo | blitzrage: really? CRTs kill your eyes |
| 14:48.27 | ruud_org | kippi: sox (see wiki for syntax) |
| 14:48.40 | blitzrage | fugitivo: hrmm... I still have 20/20 after using one since i was 7 (I'm not 25) |
| 14:48.45 | blitzrage | I'm now* |
| 14:49.14 | fugitivo | blitzrage: me too, but started to use lcd, and my eyes feel better |
| 14:49.18 | fugitivo | blitzrage: i' |
| 14:49.30 | blitzrage | fugitivo: yah... probably sharper image |
| 14:49.33 | fugitivo | blitzrage: i'm 25 too, and using computers since 5 (tv) :) |
| 14:49.42 | blitzrage | fugitivo: tv doesn't count :D |
| 14:49.52 | blitzrage | fugitivo: I really am just cheap :D |
| 14:50.47 | blitzrage | anyways.. the point was that my eyes are fine... :) |
| 14:51.09 | fugitivo | you don't feel your eyes tired after a day of work? |
| 14:51.36 | blitzrage | but I suppose I should get an LCD since I never play games... |
| 14:51.44 | blitzrage | fugitivo: I just figured it was all the smoking that did it |
| 14:51.45 | iDunno | it's winter, I feel tired all the damned time. |
| 14:51.49 | iDunno | I hate winter. |
| 14:51.52 | trixter | iDunno: wow that is amazing I havebeen using computers since you were 5 too?! |
| 14:51.59 | trixter | er s/?/ |
| 14:52.04 | Mimmus | I'm having problems to detect answer for some (rare) numbers, especially automatic responders. Any help? |
| 14:52.19 | Mimmus | Phone rings indefinitely |
| 14:52.25 | iDunno | trixter: well, if you started in 1986, yes ;) |
| 14:52.29 | trixter | I want that 30" apple lcd |
| 14:52.37 | trixter | I started in the 70s :) |
| 14:52.39 | blitzrage | I'd want it if it wasn't apple |
| 14:52.52 | iDunno | crikey, did the 70s exist?! |
| 14:53.00 | [TK]D-Fender | blitzrage : Acer AL1916W 19" 1440x900 +/- $350 |
| 14:53.02 | trixter | this is one of the best lcds out there |
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| 14:53.16 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: thanks for the tip! |
| 14:53.17 | fugitivo | trixter: apple's lcd are amazing |
| 14:53.57 | [TK]D-Fender | blitzrage : I got mine for home wholesale at $334. I also have 2 at work (my personal), and 2 x AL1913W (its predecessor). They're the best thing since sliced bread |
| 14:54.07 | trixter | http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/71701/wo/bJ5jsQpF7Gkp2y9UmbI1r9e3Fet/0.SLID?nclm=AppleDisplays&mco=91A92F05 |
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| 14:54.10 | SERGEUS | Can anybody help me with this code? http://pastebin.ca/36259 |
| 14:54.18 | trixter | the 30" does 2560 x 1600 |
| 14:54.20 | SERGEUS | i want to print all CDR variables |
| 14:54.31 | SERGEUS | but i don't get anything.. |
| 14:54.35 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: recommondations for purchase? |
| 14:54.39 | PlayBoi | hey evry1 |
| 14:54.41 | trixter | that is enough pixels and a large enough display (I played with it at the lcoal apple store in the mall) that I would be happy.. can have plenty of xterms up |
| 14:54.46 | [TK]D-Fender | blitzrage : as to where? |
| 14:54.55 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: I'm in Toronto |
| 14:54.56 | trixter | cause right now I have to have 2 monitors just to get the pixel count up for lal the xterms |
| 14:55.07 | [TK]D-Fender | blitzrage : I meant what KIND of recommendation? |
| 14:55.12 | [TK]D-Fender | I know where you are :) |
| 14:55.22 | fugitivo | trixter: aren't you de gui guy? |
| 14:55.25 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: oh... where to buy that monitor :) |
| 14:55.40 | trixter | no I was defending the right of someone to say they were writing one without being attacked |
| 14:55.48 | fugitivo | :) |
| 14:56.05 | [TK]D-Fender | blitzrage : Just pick a store near you. There's one near Rathburn/Tomkin (can't recall the name) that has decent prices. |
| 14:56.12 | trixter | I dont use one myself, but feel that someone should be able to use one or say they are writing one without others attacking them over it ... |
| 14:56.24 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: yah... technically I'm in Mississauga and it blows :) |
| 14:56.41 | [TK]D-Fender | blitzrage : That address is nearly WALKING distance from you... |
| 14:56.54 | blitzrage | really? (checking teh maps :)) |
| 14:57.00 | fugitivo | i have a 17" samsung lcd but it only can do 1280x1024, i use my laptop lcd (1400x1050) to fill the screen with xterms :) |
| 14:57.05 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: oh yah... you REALLY know where I live :) |
| 14:57.07 | blitzrage | lol |
| 14:57.12 | [TK]D-Fender | http://www.1click2computers.com/contactus.asp |
| 14:57.31 | [TK]D-Fender | blitzrage : And these guys sell VoIP stuff too... |
| 14:57.39 | SERGEUS | Does anybody know how correctly get all CDR variables? |
| 14:57.41 | SERGEUS | http://pastebin.ca/36259 |
| 14:57.49 | SERGEUS | what is wriong there? |
| 14:58.07 | [TK]D-Fender | A little pricey (for my tastes), but here it is - http://www.1click2computers.com/product_details/detail.asp?prod_id=ET%2EL5209%2E005&from_dist=X |
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| 14:59.01 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: thats still significantly far away for me (I have no car) |
| 14:59.23 | blitzrage | go all the way west on Eglinton to Winston Churchill -- thats me |
| 14:59.25 | trixter | fugitivo: I am the bsd asterisk module guy though :) http://www.trxtel.com/app_bsdapp.c (it doesnt really do anything did it cause I was told I couldnt and the FSF said I could :) use the compatibility include that makes it easier to make non-gpl modules |
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| 15:01.01 | fugitivo | trixter: i'd love to use openbsd with asterisk, but no zaptel for openbsd yet :( |
| 15:01.24 | [TK]D-Fender | blitzrage : weren't you practically off the 410? |
| 15:01.36 | trixter | well not implementation, just writing code under a license you are allowed - fighting for choice I guess |
| 15:01.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Its 1 bus from Square-One (#20) |
| 15:01.50 | trixter | I didnt mean to imply that I was porting it to anything |
| 15:02.04 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: nope. I'm at Eglinton and Winston Churchil |
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| 15:02.20 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: SQ1 is far for me... well... far enough |
| 15:02.28 | [TK]D-Fender | blitzrage : Get a lift :) Or get another place to ship too you.... |
| 15:02.49 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: yah... going to have to look around for another place ot ship I guess. I don't want to ask my room mates for any more rides for a bit :) |
| 15:02.52 | trixter | walk, run if you are cold |
| 15:03.11 | [TK]D-Fender | how far was "far enough" in your mind? |
| 15:03.18 | trixter | 2 blocks :P |
| 15:03.53 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: Erin Mills Centre is still a good 15 minute bike ride... 45 min walk. |
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| 15:04.12 | blitzrage | and it'd be hard to carry that box on my bike :) |
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| 15:04.26 | trixter | well then the answer is clear |
| 15:04.32 | trixter | get a wagon pulled by a team of dogs |
| 15:04.54 | blitzrage | no snow :) |
| 15:05.01 | trixter | wagons are on wheels |
| 15:05.02 | blitzrage | well.. I guess a wagon with wheels... |
| 15:05.04 | trixter | sleds are on snow |
| 15:05.07 | blitzrage | yah yah... I'm still tired :) |
| 15:05.10 | trixter | I said waggon :) |
| 15:05.18 | trixter | hehe |
| 15:05.19 | blitzrage | must be the monitor :) |
| 15:05.22 | [TK]D-Fender | blitzrage : Get your hands off your nuts and seize the day! |
| 15:05.41 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: I have to go fix an E911 portal... so I guess I should do that :) |
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| 15:06.03 | trixter | portal to another dimension? |
| 15:06.09 | trixter | that would be cool |
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| 15:06.33 | blitzrage | trixter: that one is only alpha :) |
| 15:06.45 | blitzrage | I send cubes through it, and I get spheres |
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| 15:07.31 | blitzrage | ok, I'm outta here to try and get some work done before my conference call. Lates! |
| 15:07.37 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: thanks for the tip on the monitor |
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| 15:08.32 | warthawg | i seem to have lost the dialtone on my bt-101. anyone have a tip on how i might get it back? |
| 15:09.12 | Beirdo | hammer? |
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| 15:11.22 | warthawg | they don't seem to be real popular here, Beirdo :) |
| 15:11.29 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 15:11.46 | ravenpi | So, what's the "correct" way to do multiline functionality? I assume it's to have two extensions register? Or is there some SIP mechanism to support multiple lines with one registration? |
| 15:12.01 | [TK]D-Fender | ravenpi : depends entirely on your ITSP |
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| 15:13.07 | ravenpi | Well, I mean from (say) a Polycom to an Asterisk box. |
| 15:13.30 | [TK]D-Fender | ravenpi : I've seen ones where they provide multiple simultaneous calls in both directions, and others where they internally forward to another account so youll have to double-reg. |
| 15:13.33 | trixter | sip supports multichannel on one account |
| 15:13.38 | trixter | however some providers limit that |
| 15:13.53 | trixter | er not provider as in itsp but provider of hardware as in who made your phone |
| 15:14.06 | ravenpi | Okay. So... hit the Polycom book. Thanks! |
| 15:14.11 | [TK]D-Fender | AH. Polycom you should set them to 1 call per line-key and multiple line-keys to a single registration (if you are not interested in using SEPERATE ones) |
| 15:14.39 | ravenpi | [TK]D-Fender -- thanks! |
| 15:14.55 | [TK]D-Fender | I am running a lot of IP 60x's here using 3-6 line keys for their single reg. subsequent calls land on the next line key automatically and is ahndled by the phone. nothing to do in * |
| 15:15.13 | ravenpi | AWESOME. |
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| 15:17.55 | Seldon1975 | Is anyone here using the exten=>fax (faxdetect) feature? Does it work for you? Doesn't seem to work for me.. |
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| 15:19.23 | trixter | wow gas prices have to more than double to make hybrids a better deal |
| 15:19.40 | trixter | at least here |
| 15:19.49 | warthawg | trixter, don't give up. the administration is working on that. |
| 15:19.49 | tuxinator_linux | here being? |
| 15:19.56 | Seldon1975 | trixter: I dont know; I drove a hybrid 300 Km to Niagara and back; petrol cost - $15 |
| 15:20.15 | trixter | yeah they are, they are proposing all sortsa alternative energy programs that will make stuff cheaper |
| 15:20.40 | caio1982 | alcohol cars with a minor tank of petrol will prevail in the next decades, imho |
| 15:20.47 | ManxPower | Um, my Saturn 2002 SL takes about $20 to fill up and I can go like 600km with it. |
| 15:20.55 | trixter | it depends on where you are as to whether its a better deal ... |
| 15:20.55 | zoa | trixter: i think you mean they will increase the prices to gain even more from taxes, while at the same time stuffing the pockets of mr el presidente's personal funds :p |
| 15:21.00 | caio1982 | alcohol is gonna be the next petroil, unfortunately for the environmentalists |
| 15:21.13 | warthawg | zoa: bingo ;) |
| 15:21.22 | trixter | ahh so when the democrats and oil companies teamed up against bushs proposals that was all a ruse? |
| 15:21.22 | ManxPower | maybe only 500km but still... |
| 15:21.24 | trixter | I get it |
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| 15:21.32 | zoa | and then with saudi dollars, make sure they also own all the alternative energy sources |
| 15:22.02 | trixter | ahh so when bush proposed things like on my webpage that doesnt rely on any foreign oil and the democrats and oil companies freaked that was also a ruse? |
| 15:22.02 | zoa | i dont think it actually matters at the end, all money probably flows to the oil companies anyway :) |
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| 15:22.07 | zoa | we might as well give up now :) |
| 15:22.42 | zoa | im really wondering about that |
| 15:22.43 | trixter | note how the democrats are teaming up with oil companies against these proposales ... its kinda funny that people insist the opposite is true |
| 15:22.54 | zoa | i dont know who is who there :) |
| 15:22.54 | Katty | we're not talking about politics are we? |
| 15:23.03 | trixter | nope oil |
| 15:23.13 | zoa | what i mean is that if prices rise, its good for the government |
| 15:23.14 | caio1982 | so why it's US-related? |
| 15:23.20 | zoa | and then they say oh use alternative sources |
| 15:23.22 | trixter | actually its bad |
| 15:23.23 | tuxinator_linux | trixter, demicrats are called asses for a reason |
| 15:23.28 | zoa | and give lower taxes on alternative energy |
| 15:23.31 | trixter | becuase gas sets the price of virtually every product on hte market |
| 15:23.37 | Katty | let's talk about hugs and bagels instead of oil. |
| 15:23.38 | zoa | and then after 5 years they will put taxes on those too |
| 15:23.39 | zoa | :) |
| 15:23.52 | Seldon1975 | Manx: according to thsi page the Saturn 2002 SL costs 1.78 per 25 miles; |
| 15:23.58 | Seldon1975 | ManxPower: http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:vzpgo2TbjUgJ:www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/17616.shtml+saturn+2002+sl+gas-mileage&hl=en |
| 15:23.58 | warthawg | according to the halliburton administration, what's good for exxon is good for amerika |
| 15:24.08 | Katty | unless you want to talk about extra virgin olive oil |
| 15:24.16 | Katty | in which case, you have my undevided attention. |
| 15:24.16 | zoa | hehe |
| 15:24.18 | tuxinator_linux | takes money to run the best armed forces in the world |
| 15:24.20 | bjohnson | OT: anyone know where I could find some free mp3s about learning spanish? |
| 15:24.34 | trixter | Katty: I dont like anything 'extra virgin' |
| 15:24.35 | trixter | :) |
| 15:24.43 | Katty | trixter: then you won't like me. |
| 15:24.45 | zoa | im wondering if the saoudi's would end up owning the world |
| 15:24.47 | ManxPower | Yes, so aout 280 miles per $20 of gas |
| 15:25.01 | caio1982 | Katty: lol |
| 15:25.20 | trixter | the VW I was speaking about earlier gets about 280 miles on $2 of gas |
| 15:25.26 | Seldon1975 | Manx: yeah, and you claimed 600 Km |
| 15:25.47 | zoa | im wondering why american's all seem to have such big engines, but drive like my grandmother :p |
| 15:26.08 | tuxinator_linux | zoa, all depends are what area you are in |
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| 15:26.17 | trixter | my engine is not nearly as big as it could be but it gets me where I need to go (and on the roads or lack there of I hoose) |
| 15:26.23 | Seldon1975 | 280 mi = 448 Km |
| 15:26.28 | tuxinator_linux | zoa, in sothern california, they can drive better |
| 15:26.36 | zoa | its always fun to see things like highway pursuits |
| 15:26.39 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, so 338km per $15 |
| 15:26.46 | trixter | had to redo many components to get the power cause when I put on the 31x10.5 tires top speed went from 110mph down to about 85 |
| 15:26.47 | zoa | "this guy is driving an insane 80 miles an hour" |
| 15:26.54 | trixter | but then its a jeep it has the aerodynamic properties of a brick |
| 15:26.55 | ManxPower | I must have screwed up my numbers |
| 15:26.58 | zoa | and then you see the police snails driving also 80 miles an hour |
| 15:27.02 | zoa | as if they can't go faster |
| 15:27.17 | ManxPower | So you can see that if you get a decent car a hybrid is much less attractive. |
| 15:27.19 | tuxinator_linux | I'm a gas guzzling american with 2 SUVS, but I will survive an accident, and you won't |
| 15:27.27 | Seldon1975 | ManxPower: I guess the point you're making is that it's still pretty good |
| 15:27.33 | zoa | i nevre got when you are trying to escape, why you wouldnt step down on the gas completely |
| 15:27.35 | Katty | tuxinator_linux: hi. |
| 15:27.36 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, Correct. |
| 15:27.46 | trixter | tuxinator_linux: heh.. my vehicle has one of the highest crash safety ratings, mostly cause of the rollbar system |
| 15:27.48 | warthawg | you may, tuxinator_linux, but your kids won't |
| 15:27.52 | Seldon1975 | ManxPower: looks good; the Saturn is among the most efficient petrol cars |
| 15:27.52 | tuxinator_linux | 75-80 MPH is the norm in Souther California |
| 15:27.53 | ManxPower | I LOVE the IDEA of a hybrid, but it doesn't even come close to saving me any money |
| 15:27.57 | Katty | tuxinator_linux: i've not talked to you in forever. |
| 15:27.58 | trixter | the passenger compartment doesnt collapse at all just the ends (crumple zones) |
| 15:28.05 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, One of the reasons I got it. |
| 15:28.07 | zoa | in the eu probably it would already make a difference |
| 15:28.12 | zoa | prices are insane here |
| 15:28.21 | tuxinator_linux | Katty, You sure haven't ;-) |
| 15:28.23 | Seldon1975 | I just love how the Hybrid is completely silent when idle |
| 15:28.30 | tuxinator_linux | warthawg, my kids? |
| 15:28.30 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, another reason is that I found one used for a decent price and consumer reports says the 2002 model is very reliable. |
| 15:28.32 | trixter | ManxPower: yeah it was on the news just now that for hybrids to be a better deal overall has has to more than double in cost |
| 15:28.42 | tuxinator_linux | warthawg, I would put them in SUV's also |
| 15:28.51 | warthawg | tuxinator_linux, recent study shows suvs are not safer for kids |
| 15:28.56 | trixter | Seldon1975: the VW I spoke of shuts off when you take your foot off the accelerator, so its silent too |
| 15:29.00 | trixter | it just doesnt look good |
| 15:29.12 | trixter | the hummer has a hydrogen powered version |
| 15:29.19 | trixter | its the only one in that color blue too |
| 15:29.21 | Katty | tuxinator_linux: where ya been stranger? |
| 15:29.27 | Seldon1975 | single people should just drive vespas :) |
| 15:29.33 | trixter | hey so who is going to etel? |
| 15:29.33 | warthawg | http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/stories/0106edsuv.html |
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| 15:29.40 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, I considered it. |
| 15:29.41 | _omer | hi |
| 15:29.45 | badboyz | can anyone make a recommendation on the $200 wireless sip phones? any that are decent? |
| 15:29.45 | tuxinator_linux | warthawg, I think it has more to do with personality and the stupidity of kids, not the car they drive |
| 15:29.47 | trixter | Seldon1975: that prevents them from ever changing from single to something else! |
| 15:29.47 | Katty | hi, _omer |
| 15:29.49 | Seldon1975 | ManxPower: a Vespa? |
| 15:29.52 | ManxPower | but I have to drive 20 miles to the nearest city. |
| 15:29.55 | ManxPower | Seldon1975, yes. |
| 15:29.59 | Seldon1975 | cool! |
| 15:30.14 | Seldon1975 | trixter: no way man - Vespas are sexy |
| 15:30.17 | tuxinator_linux | Katty, always here, I see you on my IM, but you never say Hi, and I always have to say Hi first, and the not very fair, now is it? |
| 15:30.20 | trixter | I think that anyone who drives a vespa is single, who would date them? :P |
| 15:30.20 | zoa | 98oct is 1.34 euro in belgium nowadays |
| 15:30.26 | zoa | per liter |
| 15:30.28 | trixter | so seriously |
| 15:30.31 | Katty | tuxinator_linux: hmm... |
| 15:30.31 | trixter | who is going to etel? no one? |
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| 15:30.33 | Seldon1975 | trixter: chicks dig Vespas |
| 15:30.34 | zoa | how much is that in $/gallon > |
| 15:30.36 | zoa | ? |
| 15:30.37 | Katty | tuxinator_linux: i wasn't aware you were on my list |
| 15:30.37 | tzafrir_laptop | badboyz, 100$ sip->analog adapter, analog cordless phone |
| 15:30.42 | zoa | trixter: i'd love to |
| 15:30.46 | trixter | 1.34 EUR is about $1.60 or so |
| 15:30.47 | _omer | http://pastebin.ca/36260 any help for this WARNING???? |
| 15:30.50 | Katty | tuxinator_linux: and in fact, you're not on my list. |
| 15:30.54 | Katty | tuxinator_linux: i recognize everyone on it |
| 15:30.54 | trixter | 3.8 litre in 1 gal |
| 15:31.00 | Seldon1975 | Katty: dont you agree? girls like Vespas |
| 15:31.11 | Katty | Seldon1975: i like trans ams, dear. |
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| 15:31.14 | Katty | Seldon1975: don't ask me |
| 15:31.17 | trixter | zoa: I offered free tickets while I had em, but they are all gone now.. I *might* be able to get one for $200 but not sure anymore |
| 15:31.20 | ManxPower | So that's like $6/gal |
| 15:31.21 | trixter | its getting so late ... |
| 15:31.23 | zoa | how much is the gasoline in belgium ? |
| 15:31.25 | Seldon1975 | Katty: ahh.. |
| 15:31.30 | Katty | tuxinator_linux: you should say hi so i can put you back on my list. |
| 15:31.32 | trixter | ManxPower: that is low for europe |
| 15:31.45 | ManxPower | so about 3x the price in the USA. |
| 15:31.46 | zoa | trixter: i can get in for free, but its the plane thats worrying me |
| 15:31.53 | trixter | when I lived in scotland in 2000 (when gas prices in california were $1.25-$1.50/gallon) it was $6/gal there |
| 15:31.55 | badboyz | tzafrir_laptop: thats the best recommendation eh? |
| 15:32.06 | zoa | the media still says that a hybrid car is not good for you pockets yet |
| 15:32.10 | zoa | too expensive |
| 15:32.18 | tzafrir_laptop | badboyz, ask others here... |
| 15:32.28 | Seldon1975 | what about a Solar Hybrid |
| 15:32.30 | trixter | zoa: yeah.. that is cuase htey are just too expensive to buy |
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| 15:32.36 | trixter | you dont save enough until gas hits $4.50/gal |
| 15:32.40 | _omer | http://pastebin.ca/36260 ???? |
| 15:32.48 | trixter | and that isnt gonna happen anytime soon in america |
| 15:32.50 | zoa | but even in belgium they say they are still too expensive |
| 15:33.00 | zoa | and here the gas is more expensive |
| 15:33.05 | ManxPower | trixter, but in many parts of the world it's already above that price |
| 15:33.05 | trixter | well I dont know what additional taxes and what import duties and all there are there |
| 15:33.09 | zoa | ah yes |
| 15:33.14 | zoa | cars cost a lot more here i think |
| 15:33.23 | trixter | singapore iuirc has a 100% car tax |
| 15:33.33 | mmlj4 | hey manxie |
| 15:33.42 | trixter | and you have to buy daily use permits (ie you want to drive monday, you buy a monday sticker, one for each day) |
| 15:33.42 | ManxPower | gas and cars are HIGHLY taxed in europe. Of course they also actually have good public transportation |
| 15:33.46 | trixter | so it can be quite expensive |
| 15:33.50 | tuxinator_linux | You guys have to remember supply and demand, which dictates prices |
| 15:33.53 | ManxPower | Hello mmlj4 |
| 15:34.05 | trixter | yeah when I lived in LA you couldnt walk anywhere |
| 15:34.12 | tuxinator_linux | it's not a big conspiricy |
| 15:34.19 | ManxPower | tuxinator_linux, most of the difference between USA/Europe gas prices are the taxes |
| 15:34.20 | trixter | when I lived in scotland I walked everywhere but to/from the airport and to the zoo (4 km or so outside of town) |
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| 15:34.55 | tuxinator_linux | trixter, going to VON? |
| 15:34.56 | mmlj4 | hey, what about that red phone in the reception area? I have no idea what to do with it, except just place it on the desktop |
| 15:34.56 | Ariel_ | prices are also controlled by external factors other then supply and demand. now Supply and demand is the number one factor. |
| 15:35.01 | trixter | everywhere else I walked.. well one time we would be late for dinner so I took a cab there, but walked home.. that was it.. I liekd it |
| 15:35.14 | trixter | plus wlaking around edinburgh it felt more like home than almost any place I have lived before |
| 15:35.22 | trixter | tuxinator_linux: nope, speaking at etel though |
| 15:35.23 | [TK]D-Fender | _omer : You running * behind NAT? |
| 15:35.28 | ManxPower | mmlj4, I'll go down to radio shack and get some wall mounting hardware and put it in place next time I'm in town. |
| 15:35.38 | tuxinator_linux | trixter, etel? |
| 15:35.46 | trixter | http://conferences.oreilly.com/etel |
| 15:35.47 | ManxPower | You just need some drywall thingies to mount it with a standard wall mount kit. |
| 15:35.53 | mmlj4 | well, yeah, but i'm sure they want it in sooner than that |
| 15:35.58 | trixter | ManxPower: molly bolts? |
| 15:36.05 | ManxPower | mmlj4, You could do it too. |
| 15:36.08 | mmlj4 | but the issue with the wall is that you're NOT going to be able to secure it |
| 15:36.10 | trixter | aka drywall anchors |
| 15:36.18 | ManxPower | mmlj4, why not? |
| 15:36.23 | ManxPower | trixter, yes. |
| 15:36.27 | _omer | [TK]D-Fender : No....I just changed the bindport from 5060 to 5068 ....and after 30 min I reversed the changes....and got this error |
| 15:36.34 | Seldon1975 | trixter: so at your idea of home it rains constantly? |
| 15:36.38 | mmlj4 | trixter: it's a phone, those are going to pull out the first time they actually use the phone |
| 15:36.48 | [TK]D-Fender | _omer : reloaded your config? |
| 15:36.58 | ManxPower | mmlj4, since the only time they use it is when someone is DYING, I don't think that's going to be a major issue. |
| 15:37.04 | mmlj4 | heh |
| 15:37.06 | ManxPower | anyway the trywall anchors should be fine. |
| 15:37.08 | _omer | yeah....reloaded....rebooted machine...... |
| 15:37.13 | Seldon1975 | so has anyone got the 'faxdetect' feature working; ie: incoming fax calls are detected and dealt with in your dialplan? |
| 15:37.23 | tuxinator_linux | trixter, out of my budget, I won't get to see you |
| 15:37.23 | trixter | Seldon1975: I dont relaly remember rain more than 1 day |
| 15:37.47 | Seldon1975 | trixter: gee, how long were you there? |
| 15:38.06 | trixter | malj4: nah molly bolts actually work pretty well and spread the load out |
| 15:38.17 | trixter | it doesnt rain every day |
| 15:38.20 | mmlj4 | i need to route a few cables up front, too |
| 15:38.22 | _omer | [TK]D-Fender : should I "make and make install again from source" ???? I think that's the better idea? |
| 15:38.27 | trixter | it might mist a little but that isnt rain |
| 15:38.33 | trixter | and many days it was perfectly clear |
| 15:38.39 | trixter | it depends on where you are |
| 15:38.40 | [TK]D-Fender | _omer : overkill.... |
| 15:38.46 | [TK]D-Fender | just restart * |
| 15:38.49 | trixter | skye for example has its own weather system that is independant of really anything else |
| 15:39.12 | Seldon1975 | like Victoria, B.C |
| 15:39.16 | _omer | [TK]D-Fender : I have already done it couple of times |
| 15:39.18 | trixter | glasgow has a bit more rain, but its closer to the side the wind comes from usually |
| 15:39.24 | trixter | er close rto the water on the side ... |
| 15:39.37 | trixter | edinburgh is on the eastern side |
| 15:39.39 | _omer | [TK]D-Fender : when the call comes in......this warning gets started |
| 15:39.41 | trixter | so its not that bad |
| 15:39.42 | [TK]D-Fender | _omer : Maybe you left something in a context in sip.conf for a specific entry... |
| 15:39.44 | trixter | siliconglen.org :) |
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| 15:40.45 | _omer | [TK]D-Fender : I just changed the port......and before changing the port....everything was fine... |
| 15:40.59 | badboyz | can anyone make a recommendation of an analog adapter they've used ? |
| 15:41.03 | trixter | wow that is cool |
| 15:41.11 | trixter | there is a water sprayer thing that writes words |
| 15:41.16 | trixter | at the auto show |
| 15:41.33 | trixter | it drops water down like a mister type thing, but it writes out words.. that is so cool I want one |
| 15:41.46 | trixter | have a fountain that ticks server stats in realtime |
| 15:42.20 | NewSole | Any one here Using Rogers Internet |
| 15:42.27 | trixter | um nissan urge has a built in xbox and the steering wheel is the controller.. something is fundamentally wrong with that |
| 15:42.50 | trixter | NewSole: as in rogers cable modem and all? |
| 15:42.55 | trixter | or the guy down the street named roger? |
| 15:43.21 | NewSole | as in rogers cable modem and all? |
| 15:43.25 | ManxPower | badboyz, SIPura |
| 15:43.59 | NewSole | we have a customer who is using new build of asterisk..... IAX2... and getting Radio over his calls |
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| 15:44.21 | [TK]D-Fender | badboyz : SPA-2002. Best bang/buck so far. |
| 15:44.22 | trixter | NewSole: how do you mean radio? as in RF interference? |
| 15:44.29 | trixter | that would be most odd.. |
| 15:44.38 | trixter | are you sure its not just voices in their head? |
| 15:44.39 | NewSole | yes RF interference |
| 15:44.45 | _omer | [TK]D-Fender : http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5999 please check it out...I couldn't understand it :S |
| 15:44.49 | badboyz | [TK]D-Fender: nice. |
| 15:45.18 | NewSole | he is in toronto and he is getting CFRB radio brodcasting over TDM400 Card |
| 15:45.39 | tzanger | NewSole: wow |
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| 15:45.42 | tzanger | ground the box |
| 15:45.43 | trixter | see see here is an interesting thing, voip is generally analog (where interferance like that could be mixed in) for a very short duration. as such that would indicate that its a configuration problem on their end (or yours) or there is some packet munging going on that is not right |
| 15:45.45 | sonic2wb | Jan 9 12:13:05 NOTICE[28249]: res_musiconhold.c:507 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! |
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| 15:46.01 | trixter | packet munging is unlikely, do they have a radio card that might be picked up by chan_oss ? |
| 15:46.13 | _omer | sonic2wb : you may need to upgrade your machine |
| 15:46.19 | sonic2wb | ?? |
| 15:46.35 | trixter | I still think its voices in their head |
| 15:46.36 | trixter | :) |
| 15:46.38 | NewSole | nope... I captured call want to listen to it |
| 15:47.06 | trixter | well it could be that there is some interference on the analong line |
| 15:47.10 | trixter | are htey near the transmitter? |
| 15:47.48 | trixter | the near field falls off at the inverse cube of the output power, the far field (where 99% of RF communication occurs) at the inverse square, so they would have to be fairly close for it to be piucked up via the lines at all |
| 15:47.50 | NewSole | no CFRB is down town Toronto... and they were in Missasauga |
| 15:48.04 | trixter | grounding the box may or may not help becuase even if the box is grounded the lines themselves can pick up the noise |
| 15:48.10 | trixter | are any of the modules FXO? |
| 15:48.20 | NewSole | no just FXS |
| 15:48.24 | trixter | city names mean nothing to me.. but anyway ... |
| 15:48.42 | Katty | trixter: they're handing for getting places. |
| 15:49.10 | trixter | hmm.. is it all phones or some phones? |
| 15:49.15 | trixter | are all the phones the same type? |
| 15:49.20 | _omer | sonic2wb : you may need to upgrade your machine |
| 15:49.32 | NewSole | std... no power phone |
| 15:49.32 | _omer | sonic2wb : what about the RAM ? |
| 15:49.46 | sonic2wb | _omer i think tis becuase my time is off |
| 15:49.50 | brettnem | good morning all |
| 15:50.06 | trixter | the only other thing that I can think of at that distance (guessing that its miles away) would be *maybe* a radio playing and feeding the speakers via a wire that is twisted up with their phone cord |
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| 15:50.30 | NewSole | not sure... its crazy tho |
| 15:50.39 | trixter | is it all phones or just oone or t3wo? |
| 15:51.09 | NewSole | any call dont matter the phone |
| 15:51.11 | trixter | it would also be more problematic if the speaker wire (which does have a potential for inductance on the phone line however small) is being fed right by the card |
| 15:51.38 | NewSole | but there is no sound card in asterisk box |
| 15:51.43 | trixter | do they use a soundcard and a radio for music on hold? |
| 15:52.06 | trixter | well they dont need a soundcard, if the radio that is tuned to that station is near the phone cords it can bleed over although it shouldnt at normal levels |
| 15:52.12 | NewSole | no just basic asterisk ment to dial out |
| 15:52.45 | trixter | I am gonna go with tzanger on this and suggest grounidng the case better |
| 15:53.16 | trixter | generally you want as clean a ground as possible (ie short as possible, not a lot of stuff pushing out noice onto the ground, etc) |
| 15:53.38 | tzanger | if you plug a regular phone in does it pick up the interference too? |
| 15:53.43 | zoa | sonic2wb: http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/request_schedule_past.html |
| 15:53.57 | trixter | if possible you may want to bring a portable radio with you and see if you can get the station unusually loud and clear in htat area, an attenuator (say 20dB) might be handy but odds are you wont have enough equipment on hand to deal with that |
| 15:54.02 | NewSole | yes we used a reg bell phone... |
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| 15:54.08 | zoa | I DONT THINK YOU NEED TO UPGRADE YOUR MACHINE |
| 15:54.13 | trixter | tzaghe siad they were regular phones via fxs ports |
| 15:54.14 | trixter | no fxo |
| 15:54.17 | frenzy | helloooooooo |
| 15:54.19 | zoa | oops |
| 15:54.22 | zoa | didnt mean those caps |
| 15:54.46 | trixter | NewSole: try a sip only phone |
| 15:54.51 | frenzy | whats the channel name for SER? |
| 15:54.52 | hackeron | hmm, are broadvoice really so retarded they they dont provide more than 2 data paths per line/number? |
| 15:54.52 | trixter | see if its there as well, make sure its not something else |
| 15:54.55 | Katty | zoa: sure you didn't. |
| 15:54.58 | Katty | zoa: likely excuse. |
| 15:55.02 | trixter | like maybe a softphone and remote registration or something |
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| 15:55.16 | zoa | katty, is file awake yet ? :) |
| 15:55.20 | tzanger | NewSole: and? |
| 15:55.24 | Katty | zoa: no |
| 15:55.32 | file[laptop] | actually yes |
| 15:55.36 | Katty | file[laptop]: shh |
| 15:55.36 | zoa | give him some muffins |
| 15:55.38 | Katty | file[laptop]: go back to sleep |
| 15:55.45 | trixter | NewSole: dont recall your answer, this is all 4 phones all the time no matter who called correct? |
| 15:55.48 | NewSole | no it was the only voip system in building |
| 15:55.48 | file[laptop] | can't - work! |
| 15:55.51 | frenzy | am looking for ser help do they have a channel on free-node? |
| 15:55.52 | pigpen | anyone have any idea why CID info is not being passed to my analog phone via a TDM? |
| 15:55.54 | Katty | file[laptop]: k |
| 15:56.06 | trixter | I meant off that system, its all the phones connected to it and all the time, right? |
| 15:56.10 | NewSole | yes all 4 lines... every call |
| 15:56.42 | trixter | ok, I am gonna bet that someone has either a speaker wire or something else that is doing amplified audio and that wire is on or near the phone wires |
| 15:57.14 | trixter | grounding may fix the problem, a physical inspection of the cables would be good as well, make sure someone didnt bundle a speaker wire in with those lines when they run in the roof or wherever |
| 15:57.20 | trixter | becuase they wanted radio in a remote location |
| 15:57.32 | trixter | or perhaps using an 'unused pair' in the phone wire bundle |
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| 15:58.01 | trixter | since a speaker is really just 2 wires some people have done that in the past so the radio can be physically seperate from where the speaker is for reception or other purposes |
| 15:58.24 | trixter | and its bleeding over that way |
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| 15:59.34 | NewSole | you want to listen to audio file |
| 15:59.41 | file[laptop] | Katty: I may or may not have a vegan friendly brownie for you |
| 16:00.14 | Katty | file[laptop]: are you going to bring it to me? |
| 16:00.23 | file[laptop] | Katty: nah, but I'll mail |
| 16:00.26 | file[laptop] | mail it rather |
| 16:00.53 | Katty | i think i'll pass. |
| 16:01.30 | file[laptop] | kk |
| 16:02.01 | Darwin35 | good morning my minnyooons |
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| 16:08.24 | jhelm | i have a question about the fxs module on our tdm400p |
| 16:08.42 | jhelm | it seems to not be sending a ringtone to the fax machine that is plugged into it |
| 16:08.52 | jhelm | anyone had this problem? |
| 16:09.04 | drumkilla | jhelm: contact support@digium.com |
| 16:09.21 | sonic2wb | Darwin35: Jan 9 12:13:05 NOTICE[28249]: res_musiconhold.c:507 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! |
| 16:09.48 | Darwin35 | doont use mpg123 use madplay |
| 16:10.36 | jhelm | drumkilla: just to make sure I am thinking correctly, when i plug the fax into that port, there should be a ringtone on the phone of the fax machine, correct? |
| 16:10.39 | [TK]D-Fender | jhelm : And keep in mind that Digium does not OFFICIALLY support faxing with * |
| 16:10.57 | Damin | Anyone seen Fertig around? |
| 16:11.00 | drumkilla | jhelm: yes, if configured correctly. ;) |
| 16:11.05 | jhelm | ha |
| 16:11.12 | fulgas | some wrong freq or voltage |
| 16:11.25 | brettnem | whos "ferting around" ? |
| 16:11.47 | Katty | Damin: nope |
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| 16:12.03 | Darwin35 | man nice to be able to chat this am |
| 16:12.08 | Darwin35 | having the day offfff |
| 16:12.21 | Darwin35 | working on my projects |
| 16:12.21 | Katty | maybe you should /go/ do something with your day |
| 16:12.22 | sonic2wb | must be nice |
| 16:12.41 | Darwin35 | its just starting ins 9 I just woke up |
| 16:13.22 | Darwin35 | do some chatting and coding then go to a hottub house and soak and get a rubdown |
| 16:13.45 | Katty | bad mental picture there. |
| 16:13.58 | jhelm | <<<< is jealous |
| 16:14.10 | brettnem | hottub "house"? should i ask? |
| 16:14.34 | Katty | brettnem: just smile and wave. |
| 16:15.25 | tzafrir_laptop | don't use mpg123, use rawplayer |
| 16:15.31 | brettnem | :) |
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| 16:15.54 | Katty | rawplayer? |
| 16:15.58 | Katty | how about rawrplayer? |
| 16:16.02 | Katty | that sounds much more interesting. |
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| 16:21.41 | sivana | hahahaha |
| 16:21.51 | Darwin35 | we have 4 chineese hottub houses here in devner |
| 16:22.37 | sivana | nice 1 swm_ |
| 16:23.21 | Darwin35 | you go soak and then get a rubdown . and then a steambath . fallowed by a clensing herbalscrub and greentea |
| 16:23.43 | Darwin35 | its 75 bucks fot the treatment |
| 16:24.08 | zoa | docelm0 on #asterisk -> this is fertig i think |
| 16:24.16 | Hmmhesays | i love it when people get on the phone and start spewing technical terms |
| 16:24.31 | puzzled | anyone know why the sip phone doesn't pick up the callerid from privacymanager? http://pastebin.ca/36263 |
| 16:24.55 | brad_mssw | Darwin35: how's things at old teliax going? see they're finally trying to hire more staff |
| 16:25.06 | brad_mssw | s/they're/you're/ |
| 16:26.53 | brad_mssw | Darwin35: btw, think RockyNet is screwing you all by using cogentco, latency out of cogent's network is horrid (especially for us UUNET people) |
| 16:27.59 | brettnem | I get pretty good performance with cogent actually.. I've got a gigantic pipe.. |
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| 16:28.26 | pigpen | brettnem, define "gigantic" |
| 16:28.33 | brockj49464 | Anybody know if the ZyXel 2000w wifi SIP supports on-hook announce/paging? |
| 16:28.50 | brettnem | oh it's not that big.. I have a gigE connection and feed my remote sites with 100M vlans |
| 16:29.10 | pigpen | not bad...I got 400M |
| 16:29.13 | brad_mssw | brettnem: seems that a lot of cogents routers are overloaded or something, a traceroute shows a lot of latency once you get into cogent's network |
| 16:29.14 | brettnem | something like that.. but I get good perf from it.. no complaints |
| 16:29.27 | brettnem | hmm |
| 16:29.48 | brad_mssw | brettnem: I'm sure the amount of bandwidth is pretty good though, just latency for voip sucks |
| 16:30.16 | brettnem | perhaps.. I don't do much voip over the internet.. I don't really believe in it.. :) |
| 16:30.38 | brettnem | the "I" in voip != internet for me ;) |
| 16:31.02 | Darwin35 | well thigs are growing . yes need morestaff so I can spend moretime working on upgrades and new features. |
| 16:32.08 | Darwin35 | but I like working there and RockeyNet is doing what they canto clear these network issues up. buthte big issue latly has been Savvis and Level3 |
| 16:32.09 | brad_mssw | at 68ms latency between my * box and teliax now :/ |
| 16:32.46 | brad_mssw | only 17ms between where UUNETs last hop is and my location, rest of latency is within cogentco and rockynet :/ |
| 16:32.47 | docelm0 | What did I do? |
| 16:32.50 | Darwin35 | we are going to add new gateways/proxies soon |
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| 16:33.38 | brettnem | 37ms for me |
| 16:33.43 | brettnem | and that's all cogent |
| 16:33.52 | brad_mssw | brettnem: heh, 37 is pretty good |
| 16:34.42 | sonic2wb | mmm |
| 16:35.13 | sonic2wb | guys why wouldnt i hear music on hold: Started music on hold, class 'default', on channel 'IAX2/teliax-17' |
| 16:36.13 | brettnem | do you have mpg123 compiled |
| 16:36.13 | trixter | http://www.flowgo.com/index.cfm?action=view&id=1638&scid=9967 |
| 16:36.33 | badboyz | on the SIPura does the 2 ports allow me to config 2 extensions? |
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| 16:37.15 | swm_ | THE SPA-2000 and SPA-3000 DO |
| 16:37.34 | Darwin35 | if you guys can make tracerooooutes of latancy in the net between you and teliax send them to support @teliax.com so we can report issuess |
| 16:37.57 | Prival | Hi. Anyone knows how to have FOP display the dialed number in the trunk button? |
| 16:38.33 | swm_ | I do but I dont have time at this meoment to explain ask nicholas how to do it from www.asternic.org he'll help ya |
| 16:38.39 | badboyz | swm_: what about hte 2002? |
| 16:38.56 | swm_ | hte? |
| 16:39.12 | Prival | swm_: I posted to FOP mailing, but I get no response... |
| 16:39.12 | badboyz | the |
| 16:39.19 | badboyz | swm_: what about 'the' 2002? |
| 16:39.36 | swm_ | not familure with that one |
| 16:39.39 | badboyz | kk |
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| 16:40.04 | brettnem | traceroutes cost $0.50 a piece |
| 16:41.08 | Darwin35 | ok |
| 16:41.24 | Darwin35 | I need some mysql support for asterisk |
| 16:42.38 | brad_mssw | Darwin35: sent a traceroute |
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| 16:43.06 | Darwin35 | converting a line like this exten => *48,1,Set(DB(ACR/${CALLERIDNUM}=YES) into a line like INSERT INTO `new-sqldp` VALUES ('','dialplan','*','1','','',''); |
| 16:43.37 | Darwin35 | this is so I can inport it into mysql |
| 16:44.12 | Darwin35 | but it has to work |
| 16:44.32 | Darwin35 | and I am a little confused not knowing mysql that well |
| 16:46.08 | Darwin35 | any help ? |
| 16:46.11 | Darwin35 | thnks brad |
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| 16:47.04 | [TK]D-Fender | badboyz : Yes, SPA-2002 is 2 completely seperate extensions. |
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| 16:54.03 | brad_mssw | Darwin35: it would seem it should be INSERT INTO new-sqldb VALUES (1,'dialplan','*48','1','Set','DB(ACR/${CALLERIDNUM}=Yes)'); |
| 16:54.25 | brad_mssw | Darwin35: but I've never used realtime myself ... |
| 16:54.39 | Darwin35 | ok just trying to learn |
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| 16:55.22 | brettnem | oh guys |
| 16:55.23 | brettnem | really |
| 16:55.24 | brad_mssw | Darwin35: the main thing I'm unclear on with realtime is if you have to specify a unique id, or if it will auto-gen one for you (think you have to keep it unique) |
| 16:55.27 | Darwin35 | but not sure it will work right or if I have to move to odbc put/get/del |
| 16:55.29 | brettnem | what do you think about harry and david? |
| 16:55.49 | Darwin35 | it auto generates |
| 16:56.04 | Darwin35 | thats the first '' in the line |
| 16:56.25 | brad_mssw | Darwin35: but the priority seems that it must follow the 1.0 rules, not the 1.2 rules |
| 16:56.46 | Darwin35 | I am fallowing by habit |
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| 16:57.55 | Darwin35 | i know in 1.2 its 1 then n n n for next |
| 16:57.57 | brad_mssw | Darwin35: seems like ODBC and MySQL will work the same, just the underlying config |
| 16:58.25 | brad_mssw | Darwin35: still must have your switch => Realtime/ statement it seems |
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| 16:58.50 | gaspiz | hi |
| 16:58.51 | Darwin35 | thats inthere |
| 16:59.13 | Darwin35 | in extension.conf |
| 16:59.30 | gaspiz | What do I have to set so that asterisk sends 183 SIP message ? |
| 17:00.48 | gaspiz | after answering the chaneg Asterisk should send back 183 with SDP |
| 17:00.50 | Darwin35 | ok think i got it |
| 17:00.50 | brettnem | gaspiz: 183s are automatically generated when appropriate |
| 17:00.59 | badboyz | are the ZyXEL wireless ip phones bad? |
| 17:01.14 | zoa | yes |
| 17:01.20 | zoa | they are the biggest crap i ever bought |
| 17:01.29 | zoa | and i was stupid enough to buy 3 |
| 17:01.31 | brettnem | are there any good voip wireless phones? |
| 17:01.38 | zoa | i think so, yes |
| 17:01.41 | brettnem | I have a 7920.. can't get the damn thing to work.. need new firmware |
| 17:01.43 | zoa | ive seen one at least |
| 17:01.45 | zoa | but dont remember the name |
| 17:01.50 | brettnem | zoa: haha |
| 17:01.54 | brettnem | riiiiiight |
| 17:02.00 | badboyz | zoa: did you purchase any others? |
| 17:02.04 | sonic2wb | what is this: Jan 9 12:01:40 NOTICE[5680]: res_musiconhold.c:507 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! |
| 17:02.08 | brad_mssw | The UTStarCom F1000 works, but ... the voice quality sucks, and so does range |
| 17:02.14 | brad_mssw | that's the only WiFi phone I've tried though |
| 17:02.32 | gaspiz | brettenem: ater receiving a call I answer it and than run the ringing application and itt does not send any 18X signalling |
| 17:02.50 | gaspiz | what should I do so that asterisk sends it |
| 17:02.51 | gaspiz | ? |
| 17:03.05 | brettnem | I don't think you can call ringing after answer.. what are you trying to do?! |
| 17:03.12 | trixter | I have a wireless ip phone.. course the ip part is via an addon module (sometimes refered to as an ATA) but the phone itself is from 1997 and even does dual band for better range (tx doesnt desensitive the rx part) |
| 17:03.30 | brettnem | 183 is a provisional response, it doesn't make sense after the call has been completed unless a new call is being made. |
| 17:03.40 | trixter | from the sounds of it its better htan the zyxel, which is likely more money |
| 17:03.51 | brettnem | trixter: I do the same thing.. works really nice... but not really what I want. |
| 17:03.55 | gaspiz | brettenem: my test case is: This test verifies a normal call can setup from PSTN to SIP with ring back from the SIP end using 183 with SDP. It is answered by SIP end and hung up from the SIP end. |
| 17:04.31 | gaspiz | brettenem: I tried it with and without ringing... |
| 17:04.36 | brettnem | ok, so what sip device is ringing again? cause I Don't remember you saying anything abotu that.. |
| 17:04.53 | brettnem | asterisk will send out a 183 when that sip device sends IT a 183 |
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| 17:05.27 | gaspiz | brettenem: the sip device doesn't send a 183 |
| 17:05.38 | brettnem | then that's why you don't hear ringing |
| 17:06.04 | file | gaspiz: how do you want chan_sip to behave? |
| 17:06.21 | sonic2wb | blah: anyone good with musiconhold |
| 17:06.29 | brockj49464 | So what are some good voip wireless phones? |
| 17:06.43 | brettnem | gaspiz: you don't have to do anything special to make ringing to happen,. but a device does need to be ringing for ringback to occur (without faking it, not recommended) |
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| 17:07.11 | gaspiz | I hear ringing and everithing... |
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| 17:07.18 | brettnem | ok, so what is the problem? |
| 17:07.34 | file | brettnem: pebkac |
| 17:07.50 | brettnem | heh |
| 17:08.01 | gaspiz | brettenem: not the ringing is the problem, after receiving an invite I should send out: 100 trying |
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| 17:09.02 | gaspiz | I am sending out only 100 trying and 200 ok |
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| 17:09.03 | brettnem | gaspiz: ok, so waht is the problem? |
| 17:09.07 | puzzled | anyone know how I set an empty CALLERID(name)? Set(CALLERID(name)="") results in " |
| 17:09.10 | Quintana | Does anybody have an idea for this error ? |
| 17:09.12 | brettnem | you don't HAVE to get a 183 |
| 17:09.18 | file | or a 180 |
| 17:09.19 | Seldon1975 | Hi, on my Polycom 501 when I go to Directories > Contact Directory > Add then edit an entry and Save, the entry doesn't get saved |
| 17:09.19 | TurboDiesel_ | hello everyone |
| 17:09.20 | brettnem | it's a "provisional response" |
| 17:09.25 | nfi|ermes | hi all |
| 17:09.25 | sonic2wb | Help: res_musiconhold.c:507 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! |
| 17:09.30 | nfi|ermes | http://pastebin.com/497931 |
| 17:09.33 | MrChimpy | hi guys. i'm doing my reading round what i'd like to eventually do in asterisk. I have a TE411. i'll connect it to our switch and have the lines presented to me, but what sort of mechanism would I be using to determine the number the user called so I can determine what service should respond? I assume it's something like CLID but I'm unsure of the terminology for it - which makes it pretty hard to google for :) |
| 17:09.34 | brettnem | sonic2wb: is your computer fast enough |
| 17:09.37 | TurboDiesel_ | anyone willing to help regarding freebsd asterisk installation? |
| 17:09.41 | brad_mssw | puzzled: just get rid of the quotes, let it end with the ) |
| 17:09.42 | brettnem | sonic2wb: did you compile the right version of mpg123 |
| 17:09.50 | puzzled | brad_mssw: thanks |
| 17:09.52 | sonic2wb | its not useing mpg23 |
| 17:09.59 | sonic2wb | streamplaer |
| 17:10.04 | sonic2wb | streamplayer |
| 17:10.05 | brettnem | oh, can't help you there. |
| 17:10.07 | nfi|ermes | if i call from internal 39 to internal 37 it doesn t work, if i call from trunk it works |
| 17:10.19 | gaspiz | brettenem: again I(asterisk) is receiving an invite, after this I(asterisk) should send 100 trying, 183 ..., and 200 ok |
| 17:10.20 | sonic2wb | its doing it on native mp3s |
| 17:10.41 | brettnem | gaspiz: NO NO NO.. |
| 17:10.49 | gaspiz | brettenem: i(asterisk) send only 100 trying, and 200 ok |
| 17:10.53 | brettnem | gaspiz: there won't necessarily be a 183.. |
| 17:11.00 | brettnem | gaspiz: what you are describing is a NORMAL CALL |
| 17:11.03 | file | asterisk will only send 183 if there is inband progress, and 180 if it knows it's ringing |
| 17:11.24 | puzzled | brad_mssw: console shows: CALLERID(name)=") in new stack so no luck |
| 17:11.41 | gaspiz | brettenem: file: How can I do inband progress? |
| 17:11.46 | brettnem | what makes you think a 183 should be sent out.. those are automagically generated by the components in the network.. if a component doesn't generate it, chances are, ringing never happened. |
| 17:11.46 | Prival | Hi. Anyone knows how to have FOP display the dialed number in the trunk button? |
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| 17:11.58 | brettnem | gaspiz: what device is "ringing" that you want to generate the 183? |
| 17:12.24 | brettnem | gaspiz: pstn is calling.. what? |
| 17:12.55 | gaspiz | brettenem: pstn is calling the asterisk |
| 17:13.07 | brettnem | "the asterisk" ? |
| 17:13.09 | brad_mssw | puzzled: you have Set(CALLERID(name)=) and it's inserting a quote somewhere ?? |
| 17:13.12 | brettnem | an ivr? what app?? |
| 17:13.16 | puzzled | brad_mssw: yup |
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| 17:13.23 | brettnem | a sip phone? an ata? your soundcard? |
| 17:13.27 | brettnem | pstn is calling WHAT? |
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| 17:13.49 | brad_mssw | puzzled: what version of asterisk are you running ? |
| 17:13.55 | Darwin35 | cn you call obbcput and get from within mysql ? |
| 17:14.04 | Darwin35 | odbc |
| 17:14.12 | brad_mssw | Darwin35: sure, don't see why not |
| 17:14.16 | Darwin35 | ok |
| 17:14.19 | puzzled | brad_mssw: 1.2.1 up to svn rev 7815 |
| 17:14.38 | MrChimpy | um, was my question clear? |
| 17:14.47 | sonic2wb | why would musiconhold start and stop as soon as it start |
| 17:14.48 | gaspiz | brettenen: from another company (the pstn provider) I am receiving a call. I set up asterisk to ring my softphone. |
| 17:14.59 | brettnem | AHHH YOU ARE CALLING A SOFTPHONE |
| 17:15.05 | brettnem | what softphone? |
| 17:15.05 | brad_mssw | puzzled: are you using AEL or old extensions.conf ? |
| 17:15.09 | gaspiz | xlite |
| 17:15.15 | puzzled | brad_mssw: old standrd stuff |
| 17:15.25 | brettnem | and does xlite ring when the call is made? |
| 17:15.27 | brad_mssw | puzzled: what's 'show dialplan' have to say ?? did it insert a quote while parsing ? |
| 17:15.46 | brettnem | gaspiz: do you have an "answer" in your dialplan? |
| 17:15.53 | gaspiz | yes, Xlite is ringing |
| 17:15.56 | puzzled | brad_mssw: lemme check |
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| 17:16.20 | brettnem | gaspiz: do you have an "answer" in your dialplan? |
| 17:16.23 | gaspiz | brettenem: yes: answer: dial Sip/.... hangup |
| 17:16.34 | brettnem | gaspiz: why do you have an "answer" in your dialplan? |
| 17:16.47 | puzzled | brad_mssw: no quote in show dialplan: Set(CALLERID(name)=) |
| 17:16.50 | gaspiz | I shouldn't have? |
| 17:17.04 | brettnem | well.. do you want asterisk to answer the call or xlite? |
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| 17:17.14 | trixter | not to totally harp on this but ... there is some work in progress to enable more licensing options for modules in asterisk per the FSF and their comments on the isuse. to that end there is currently an interopibility include to bypass the key system (and court cases to say why such key systems cant even be copyrighted and basically why they are useless) at http://www.sunrise-tel.com/downloads/astlgplkey.h and a do nothing hello world type bsd lice |
| 17:17.14 | trixter | nsed module at http://www.trxtel.com/app_bsdapp.c that uses that interopibility include.. more work will follow at some point.. this at least gives more choices now :) |
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| 17:17.20 | brad_mssw | puzzled: hmm, if you're pulling from svn, wonder if a bug wasn't introduced ... |
| 17:17.22 | trixter | and now its time for sleep |
| 17:17.32 | ravenpi | I have no problem with the BT-102, but (as a customer puts it), it looks like a Princess phone. Any suggestions for cheap -- but more professional looking -- phones? |
| 17:17.40 | brad_mssw | puzzled: I've set other variables to blank before, and haven't had an issue ... then again, it could be specific to the CALLERID() functions |
| 17:17.54 | puzzled | brad_mssw: yeah might be |
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| 17:18.09 | brad_mssw | puzzled: could try the deprecated SetCallerIDName() function, and set it to blank in there |
| 17:18.15 | gaspiz | brettenen: I just want to send a 183 SDP back to my provider :) |
| 17:18.26 | puzzled | brad_mssw: good idea |
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| 17:18.56 | gaspiz | brettenen: asterisk can answer, xlite can answer, how should I do it? |
| 17:18.56 | brettnem | gaspiz: take out the answer.. you ARN'T sending it because you told asterisk to ANSWER the call before you sent it to the phone.. the PHONE rings (NOT ASTERISK) and the phone will send 18X responses |
| 17:18.56 | nfi|ermes | anyone could help a newbie ? |
| 17:19.05 | saftsack | hi is there a hylafax channel here in freenode? |
| 17:19.24 | gaspiz | brettenen: just a sec to try it out :) |
| 17:19.30 | _Sam-- | saftsack: whats the question |
| 17:19.39 | _Sam-- | i been hylafax for about 10 years |
| 17:19.41 | saftsack | can i connect hardwarefaxes on hylafax? |
| 17:19.52 | _Sam-- | you would use a regular modem |
| 17:19.55 | trixter | hylafax connects to modems |
| 17:19.57 | brettnem | gaspiz: extensions reload.. dont' forget |
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| 17:20.08 | trixter | whether software based like sf.net/projects/iaxmodem or hardware |
| 17:20.20 | saftsack | _Sam--, so i just have to take modems in both ways? |
| 17:20.36 | trixter | saftsack: you can use iaxmodem if you want a 100% software solution |
| 17:20.43 | _Sam-- | for normal modems in hylafax, you would hook up a regular plain faxmodem to the serial port on your computer |
| 17:20.54 | trixter | or a hardware modem (which requires less cpu typically and all that) |
| 17:20.56 | saftsack | trixter, i want a stable solution |
| 17:20.59 | _Sam-- | and then you tell hylafax to use it (faxaddmodem) |
| 17:21.03 | trixter | ok you could use iaxmodem |
| 17:21.13 | saftsack | what is iaxmodem |
| 17:21.14 | saftsack | ? |
| 17:21.22 | trixter | http://sf.net/projects/iaxmodem |
| 17:21.30 | saftsack | _Sam--, can i save the faxes with hylafax as tiff files? |
| 17:21.42 | trixter | its a sottware modem that connects to asterisk via iax2 (localhost is prefered for this) |
| 17:21.47 | _Sam-- | saftsack: sure, or pdf, or ps...or probably just about anything |
| 17:21.58 | trixter | saftsack: yes most people email it via pdf |
| 17:22.01 | saftsack | _Sam--, and it runs stable? :) |
| 17:22.07 | _Sam-- | has been for me. |
| 17:22.10 | _Sam-- | i love my hlya |
| 17:22.11 | _Sam-- | hyla |
| 17:22.13 | trixter | which I do with spandsp (what isxmodem uses) and rxfax directly without extra stuff.. |
| 17:22.18 | _Sam-- | have a bunch of desktop clients connect to it to send and receive |
| 17:22.37 | _Sam-- | fax to pdf to your email |
| 17:22.38 | brettnem | hmm iaxmodem works with hylafax? |
| 17:22.40 | brettnem | wtf?! |
| 17:22.41 | _Sam-- | which is nice |
| 17:22.45 | trixter | iaxmodem also had a hylafax modem definition so its easy to set up that way too |
| 17:22.57 | _Sam-- | i have to check that out |
| 17:23.08 | _Sam-- | i havent done a single voip fax, or tried one |
| 17:23.18 | trixter | all iaxmodem relaly does is create a /dev entry (ok it uses a pty doesnt 'create' anything) and expose modem functionality that way |
| 17:23.28 | saftsack | _Sam--, can i log all outgoing faxes? |
| 17:23.31 | trixter | well it doesnt have to be voip and it would be prefered that it werent |
| 17:23.34 | _Sam-- | saftsack: it does that all |
| 17:23.40 | _Sam-- | archive them too |
| 17:23.45 | _Sam-- | view them |
| 17:23.49 | saftsack | ok thanks :) so ill give hylafax a try |
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| 17:23.59 | _Sam-- | it has a big learning curve...dont give up on it |
| 17:24.03 | _Sam-- | once you get it, its simple |
| 17:24.05 | trixter | a pstn connection into asterisk via a variety of boards from asterisk via localhost to iaxmodem to /dev to hylafax (although hylafax could run on a different server its best if iaxmodem run on the same server as asterisk) |
| 17:24.44 | gaspiz | brettenen: Hurray I got a 180 ringing !!!!! :D HURRAY |
| 17:24.49 | brettnem | there ya go |
| 17:24.58 | saftsack | _Sam--, so i can connect a hardwarefax and if i send a fax it is logged and sent twice? |
| 17:25.05 | gaspiz | brettenen: thanks a LOT. Your a lifesawer |
| 17:25.07 | af_ | did you have any succes with iaxmodem? |
| 17:25.10 | brettnem | the error should make sense to you.. there was no Ringing because the call was ANSWERED |
| 17:25.16 | brettnem | haha |
| 17:25.31 | gaspiz | :) |
| 17:25.40 | trixter | people have used iaxmodem a lot, it uses spandsp (it prefers a version of spandsp that has a bunch of fixes in it) which has been used even more |
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| 17:25.51 | _Sam-- | if you send a fax from hylafax to a hardware fax....it is sent once..and the server keeps a copy of it. |
| 17:26.18 | bkw__ | hylafax is easy to configure and run |
| 17:26.25 | saftsack | and from a hardware fax to another fax in the world? |
| 17:26.26 | _Sam-- | i guess it is these days |
| 17:26.34 | _Sam-- | "faxsetup" and "faxaddmodem" |
| 17:26.39 | _Sam-- | is about all it should take |
| 17:26.46 | saftsack | ok :) |
| 17:27.13 | Hmmhesays | wow "i thought you just did something magical to make it work" |
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| 17:27.23 | Hmmhesays | how do people like that survive daily life |
| 17:27.36 | saftsack | _Sam--, are there good modems for this issue? (linux) |
| 17:27.52 | _Sam-- | the ones i recommend for hylafax are the multitech brand |
| 17:28.03 | _Sam-- | but im sure everyone has their own preferences |
| 17:28.16 | trixter | there are a lot of buggy firmwares floating around in a lot of modems so be careful if you want a lot of compatibility |
| 17:28.18 | _Sam-- | the last hylafax modem i bought a multitech modem brand new on ebay for like 29 bucks |
| 17:28.27 | [TK]D-Fender | ravenpi : Decent budget phones : Polycom IP 301 ($113), IP 501 ($170), Linksys SPA-941 ($150). There is another coming out soon SPA-921 ($119.99) |
| 17:28.43 | saftsack | _Sam--, im living in germany ;) |
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| 17:29.10 | saftsack | is this an internal or an external modem? |
| 17:29.16 | _Sam-- | i prefer external |
| 17:29.23 | saftsack | i too |
| 17:29.25 | sonic2wb | whats the command to check system stats of a linux box |
| 17:29.26 | _Sam-- | this is the hylfax list: http://www.hylafax.org/content/Hardware_Compatibility_List |
| 17:29.41 | jarrod | is there a way to tell sip to use a standard ring ? when I call out some sip connections I hear a distinctive 'ring ring ring' and not a 'ring' |
| 17:29.41 | saftsack | thanks :) |
| 17:30.02 | DrDeke | saftsack: That still doesn't explain why you chose "juice sack" as your nick *grin* |
| 17:30.10 | saftsack | lol |
| 17:30.21 | saftsack | is a bad nick |
| 17:30.26 | saftsack | but im known under saftsack :( |
| 17:30.29 | DrDeke | hehe |
| 17:30.32 | DrDeke | well, it is identifiable :) |
| 17:30.47 | saftsack | but i think in america it doesnt sound very basd |
| 17:31.02 | DrDeke | oh, no, almost no-one here would have any idea what it meant :) |
| 17:31.04 | _Sam-- | i just thought you spelled softsack wrong |
| 17:31.11 | sonic2wb | lol |
| 17:31.19 | sonic2wb | _Sam-- YO |
| 17:31.34 | _Sam-- | whats up sonic |
| 17:31.44 | sonic2wb | i need some help with music on hold |
| 17:31.51 | syle | i thought he did crack |
| 17:32.05 | DrDeke | Winners do Asterisk, not crack. |
| 17:32.19 | _Sam-- | sonic2wb: you got mpg123? |
| 17:32.34 | syle | maybe he multitasks :) |
| 17:32.36 | sonic2wb | yea just installed it, but get some errors |
| 17:32.45 | Darwin35 | ok done |
| 17:33.03 | _Sam-- | there's not much to music on hold |
| 17:33.10 | brettnem | asterisk=crack |
| 17:33.25 | Darwin35 | asterisk is my drug of choice |
| 17:33.30 | Darwin35 | so leave it alone |
| 17:33.38 | sonic2wb | i cant get it to stream a shoutcast streme |
| 17:33.45 | brettnem | Darwin35: I'd pick something that doesn't cause so much damage |
| 17:33.50 | Darwin35 | its clean. easy to take and has little withdraw syndrom |
| 17:33.53 | _Sam-- | probably not the best idea for real music on hold anyway |
| 17:33.58 | _Sam-- | but it will stream moh |
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| 17:34.19 | Darwin35 | use madplayer |
| 17:34.36 | _Sam-- | whole article: |
| 17:34.36 | Darwin35 | mpg123 is junk |
| 17:34.37 | _Sam-- | http://mundy.org/blog/index.php?p=92 |
| 17:35.00 | _Sam-- | yw |
| 17:35.01 | syle | int main { if(asterisk==crack) { return=shootme(ninjastars,grenades,torpedoes) } } |
| 17:35.20 | MrChimpy | saftsack: it's "raoul duke" |
| 17:35.22 | mog_work | could that guy have more ads? |
| 17:36.01 | _Sam-- | probably but they would have to be opaque to see the others :) |
| 17:36.16 | saftsack | MrChimpy, saftsack in english? |
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| 17:36.57 | MrChimpy | saft: sorry, wrong guy |
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| 17:37.13 | MrChimpy | it's been a very long day |
| 17:37.59 | jarrod | how do i reload zaptel.conf without restarting asterisk |
| 17:38.25 | brockj49464 | trixter: Is there a software modem for XP? |
| 17:38.32 | _Sam-- | could try just "reload" on the console but i dont know if that will reload zap |
| 17:39.05 | mog_work | zaptel.conf you can run ztcfg -vv |
| 17:39.07 | mog_work | exteranlly |
| 17:39.19 | mog_work | but it will cause things not to work if you change channel structures |
| 17:39.35 | mog_work | also you cant add new channels into asterisk with zap without reloading asterisk |
| 17:39.36 | jarrod | no just changing ring tones |
| 17:39.40 | jarrod | i dont want 3 short chirps |
| 17:39.41 | mog_work | err restarting |
| 17:39.42 | jarrod | i want the standard |
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| 17:40.33 | jarrod | some customers are getting 3 short chirps and some are getting the standard ring tone |
| 17:41.00 | sonic2wb | _Sam-- my moh.conf loooks diff than what is showed in there |
| 17:43.11 | syle | umm most phones have custom rings tones anyways |
| 17:43.17 | syle | who cares :) |
| 17:43.32 | SplasPood | What are asterisk people generally using as a faxing solution for their customers? |
| 17:44.13 | _Sam-- | hyalfax! |
| 17:44.32 | _Sam-- | sonic2wb: you're on your own...to get it working is trivial! |
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| 17:45.09 | syle | yeah its called google :) |
| 17:45.58 | syle | although i thought most people were using spansp |
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| 17:48.18 | _Sam-- | its fugitivo the text based console nazi! |
| 17:48.33 | gaupe | n/win 12 |
| 17:48.36 | gaupe | oops |
| 17:48.38 | fugitivo | lol |
| 17:48.59 | _Sam-- | hey its all good...thats why there is chocolate and vanilla! |
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| 17:49.35 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o anthm] by ChanServ |
| 17:50.20 | fndude | I am trying to save voicemail and I get a channel not found error in the console, and no voicemail save. What channel do I need to configure to save voicemail properly? |
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| 17:51.34 | sonic2wb | blah blah |
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| 17:52.56 | frenzy | any ser users? |
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| 17:53.07 | jarrod | i use ser |
| 17:53.27 | frenzy | I'm trying to install and I get a bunch of errors |
| 17:54.52 | shido6 | fndude - what are you editing to get that working |
| 17:55.13 | sonic2wb | holy crap |
| 17:55.16 | _Sam-- | does anyone know about how many writes you can do to a USB thumb type drive? i am finding conflicting info |
| 17:55.21 | shido6 | voicemail is setuip in voicemail.conf and extensions.conf |
| 17:55.31 | sonic2wb | _Sam-- what do u mean? |
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| 17:55.46 | _Sam-- | i am going to mount a USB thumb drive as /var...want to know how many writes its good for |
| 17:55.54 | frenzy | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.02 | sonic2wb | should be ok for a long time? |
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| 17:56.16 | _Sam-- | well usb and other flash media wear out with writes to them |
| 17:56.24 | *** join/#asterisk javar (n=javar@69.79.51.8) |
| 17:56.25 | _Sam-- | im wondering what the life expectancy should be |
| 17:56.43 | *** part/#asterisk gambit (n=gambit@70.88.212.117) |
| 17:57.13 | sonic2wb | wtf why when i load asterisk in ps -A i see like 10 asterisks running? |
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| 17:59.13 | brad_mssw | sonic2wb: you probably are on linux without NPTL support |
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| 17:59.22 | brad_mssw | sonic2wb: meaning you'll get a process entry for each thread that exists |
| 17:59.32 | sonic2wb | so its ok? |
| 17:59.33 | sonic2wb | lo |
| 17:59.43 | brad_mssw | sonic2wb: if you had NPTL support, you would not get a process entry for each thread |
| 17:59.50 | brad_mssw | sonic2wb: yes, it should be ok |
| 18:01.26 | sonic2wb | i give up this music on hold |
| 18:03.03 | _Sam-- | fine give up! you wont learn anythign that way |
| 18:03.24 | microcode | a newbie question: when using Digium analog cards, where is the DTMF detection done |
| 18:03.34 | justinu | in software |
| 18:03.35 | jarrod | in zaptel driver |
| 18:03.35 | microcode | is there HW on the Digiums, or is it done on the host CPU? |
| 18:03.36 | jarrod | for that card |
| 18:03.40 | microcode | thx |
| 18:04.00 | microcode | is there a place on the web i could have found that out? |
| 18:04.01 | mog_work | it depends |
| 18:04.10 | sonic2wb | why would music on hold start then stop as soon as it starts? |
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| 18:04.12 | mog_work | on quad cards with echocan board its done on board |
| 18:04.15 | mog_work | otherwise its in cpu |
| 18:04.19 | mog_work | its not very intesive |
| 18:04.24 | jarrod | good thing he specified analog card |
| 18:04.31 | jarrod | so we knew what to tell him |
| 18:04.32 | justinu | notch filters, yay |
| 18:04.34 | _Sam-- | sonic2wb: does your regular non-streaming MOH work? |
| 18:05.08 | sonic2wb | yes |
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| 18:06.20 | _Sam-- | You can also stream music on hold from a url, have a look at this example |
| 18:06.20 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.20 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.20 | _Sam-- | network => custom:/var/lib/asterisk/moh-dummy,/usr/bin/mpg123 |
| 18:06.21 | [TK]D-Fender | mog_work : He was asking where DTMF detection was done, NOT Echo Cancellation... |
| 18:06.22 | _Sam-- | -q -s --mono -r 8000 -f 8192 -b 0 http://192.168.1.232:8080/stream.mp3 |
| 18:06.24 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.26 | _Sam-- | oops er sorry |
| 18:06.54 | mog_work | dtmf is done on board on the echocan board |
| 18:06.56 | jarrod | d-fender: but the echo can cards support dtmf tone detection in hardware |
| 18:06.57 | sonic2wb | i tryed and it done the same |
| 18:07.16 | jarrod | unless you modify the zaptel source to set vpm dtmf = 0 |
| 18:07.23 | jarrod | which i had to do because it was causing problems with mgcp |
| 18:07.55 | _Sam-- | dunno but some lunch is calling...good luck |
| 18:08.11 | mog_work | yeah the range isnt as good as the software jarrod |
| 18:09.08 | [TK]D-Fender | jarrod : Never saw that on the spec sheets.... |
| 18:12.15 | fndude | shido6: I have been looking in extensions.conf at the CONSOLE directive. I have also been trying to figure out if I need to define a channel to do this task, via iax.conf. |
| 18:12.29 | razu_ | is there any way to compile oh323 on asterisk 1.2.1 ... or does it need exactly CVS ??? |
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| 18:15.08 | gaspiz | hi, What do I have to do to simulate a busy condition and send back a SIP 486 Busy here? |
| 18:15.26 | gaspiz | without answering the chanel |
| 18:15.34 | file[desk] | use the Busy application? |
| 18:15.38 | justinu | just set busy in the dialplan |
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| 18:16.40 | gaspiz | I don't want to answer the chanel and in the wiki's example it answers it |
| 18:16.53 | justinu | so take out the answer |
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| 18:18.57 | gaspiz | i tried it and sent out a 487. Close enough? |
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| 18:20.07 | justinu | not exactly the same thing |
| 18:21.02 | batphone | i am getting one way voice from a polycom phone |
| 18:21.06 | batphone | anyone know how to fix this |
| 18:21.06 | batphone | ? |
| 18:21.49 | mut | what kinda processing power would it take to transcode 23 channels from g729 to g711 |
| 18:21.52 | mut | any ideas? |
| 18:22.03 | batphone | at least a p3 |
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| 18:22.13 | batphone | a high end p3 |
| 18:22.20 | batphone | id use a xeon ;P |
| 18:22.34 | justinu | a P3-600 can do it |
| 18:22.48 | justinu | well, actually, the system I benchmarked was a dual P3-600 |
| 18:22.56 | mut | it can do it |
| 18:22.59 | mut | but with what kinda quality |
| 18:23.06 | justinu | perfect quality |
| 18:23.11 | mut | k |
| 18:23.18 | mut | so i'll probly go for a single xeon machine then |
| 18:23.24 | justinu | so would I |
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| 18:23.43 | mut | i priced out a new mail server for us |
| 18:23.53 | mut | and use the current voip/mail server for just voip |
| 18:23.55 | mut | but that got vetoed |
| 18:24.00 | justinu | i'm benchmarking dell SC1425's right now |
| 18:24.02 | justinu | they fly |
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| 18:24.07 | mut | so i gotta look for a cheapo system |
| 18:24.17 | mut | just to handle 2 full pris |
| 18:25.06 | mut | guess $2900 was too much :'( |
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| 18:25.26 | justinu | try the dell sc1425, they're about 1600 |
| 18:25.28 | hardwire | cheapo |
| 18:25.36 | mut | heya hardwire |
| 18:25.37 | mut | sup |
| 18:25.44 | hardwire | heya mut |
| 18:25.47 | hardwire | nada |
| 18:25.51 | hardwire | just trying to survive |
| 18:26.14 | hardwire | went to a LUG here in town |
| 18:26.18 | hardwire | oh boy. |
| 18:26.31 | mut | heh |
| 18:26.38 | mut | all kinda samoan geeks |
| 18:26.45 | hardwire | only one |
| 18:26.51 | hardwire | you can tell he was the runt. |
| 18:26.57 | mut | heh |
| 18:27.06 | hardwire | the rest are over 50 |
| 18:27.16 | hardwire | and really love twm. |
| 18:27.22 | [TK]D-Fender | batphone : Are the phone and * local to each other? |
| 18:27.36 | mut | so ya find me any work in the states yet? |
| 18:27.36 | mut | :P |
| 18:27.39 | *** join/#asterisk clyrrad (n=ddd@CPE001195f553c7-CM0011aea484a4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 18:27.57 | hardwire | oh no |
| 18:28.01 | hardwire | your canadian! |
| 18:28.05 | hardwire | I can't hire you |
| 18:28.10 | mut | michiganian |
| 18:28.13 | hardwire | close enough |
| 18:28.18 | mut | ewww |
| 18:28.20 | mut | harsh |
| 18:28.21 | lunk | heh |
| 18:28.21 | tzanger | haha |
| 18:28.29 | tzanger | anything north of the mason-dixon line right? |
| 18:28.43 | hardwire | mut: no we are in the process of hiring a full-timer out on the island.. |
| 18:28.53 | mut | still havn't hired that dude? |
| 18:29.02 | hardwire | yeh.. about that. |
| 18:29.06 | hardwire | I hate my company. |
| 18:29.14 | mut | hah what happened |
| 18:29.19 | hardwire | just sloooooow man |
| 18:29.25 | mut | ah |
| 18:29.31 | mut | sux |
| 18:29.35 | hardwire | good news is this new manager like person is budgeting in things. |
| 18:30.01 | lofi-rev | anyone using the cvs version of iaxcomm? I am unable to transfer calls or answer local calls (extension to extension) but external calls are answerable. |
| 18:30.34 | gaspiz | how do I send a SIP/ 404, Unprovisioned or Unavailable (searced for an application for something like this but didn't found it) |
| 18:31.02 | justinu | * sends 404 automatically when it can't find a match in the context |
| 18:31.07 | file[desk] | well, I'll tell you this... if the extension doesn't exist - Asterisk will return 404 Not Found |
| 18:31.19 | gaspiz | thanks |
| 18:33.05 | clyrrad | outgoing SIP calls seem to hang with Attempting native bridge of SIP/1000-c809 and SIP/sip.broadvoice.com-3cb2 any idea why? |
| 18:33.20 | justinu | canreinvite=no |
| 18:33.25 | clyrrad | yes |
| 18:33.31 | clyrrad | that is set in general |
| 18:33.45 | justinu | then no idea |
| 18:33.52 | clyrrad | anyone else? |
| 18:35.36 | batphone | how do i change this: Contact: <sip:asterisk@192.168.99.1> |
| 18:35.43 | batphone | i need that to be some other IP |
| 18:35.46 | batphone | thats from a sip debug |
| 18:35.49 | Darwin35 | ok about to test real time |
| 18:35.50 | fndude | what channel type should I be using for voicemail messages? |
| 18:35.57 | Darwin35 | hope iit works |
| 18:36.12 | *** join/#asterisk gnosys (n=gnosys@ip68-9-201-250.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 18:36.44 | [TK]D-Fender | fndude : Voicemail doesn't havea channeltype. Perhaps you mean codec for recording? |
| 18:37.20 | clyrrad | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.38 | *** join/#asterisk hardwire (n=hardwire@209-112-136-72-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net) |
| 18:37.52 | *** join/#asterisk insomni (n=insomni@x1-6-00-e0-18-6f-34-ad.k455.webspeed.dk) |
| 18:38.13 | fndude | The errors I am getting indicate that CONSOLE is not properly defined. I tried to change the channel type on that in extensions.conf, and my error changed. |
| 18:38.37 | *** join/#asterisk ]expic (i=xuy@h160-104.uni.net.ua) |
| 18:38.50 | ]expic | can anybody tell me how to debug dtmf in asterisk console? |
| 18:39.30 | fndude | [TK]D-Fender: what would you suggest as far as making sure the CONSOLE is set correctly, because currently its broken. |
| 18:40.16 | *** join/#asterisk kpettit (n=keith@69.15.174.114) |
| 18:40.27 | kpettit | any tricks I can use to help asterisk deal with latency better? |
| 18:40.42 | tzanger | ? |
| 18:40.44 | *** join/#asterisk Gorth (n=gorth@homer.cs.aau.dk) |
| 18:40.48 | tzanger | asterisk doesn't have a problem with latency |
| 18:41.00 | *** join/#asterisk leopardus (n=leopardu@217.22.180.105) |
| 18:41.05 | kpettit | going over a sat with 800ms latency |
| 18:41.24 | gaspiz | justinu: I have another one: what shoud I do for SIP message 503, Service Unavailable ? |
| 18:41.25 | ]expic | it has the problem with latency for SIP registration |
| 18:41.34 | ]expic | i remember there was a patch for it |
| 18:41.40 | kpettit | ah, how can I fix that? |
| 18:41.50 | kpettit | I'm using 1.0.9 |
| 18:42.06 | ]expic | kpettit: check the bugtrack on asterisk web site |
| 18:42.37 | ]expic | kpettit: there was a patch for dublicate SIP register packets for long latency links |
| 18:42.54 | justinu | gaspiz: congestion |
| 18:42.56 | kpettit | is that fixed in the new version of asterisk? 1.2.1? |
| 18:43.00 | justinu | gaspiz, you doing l3 interop? |
| 18:43.12 | frenzy | any ser users? |
| 18:43.19 | frenzy | does ser work with Fedora Core 3? |
| 18:43.25 | ]expic | <kpettit> have no clue |
| 18:43.30 | Nugget | why wouldn't it, frenzy? |
| 18:43.43 | frenzy | it doesnt want to install |
| 18:43.54 | *** join/#asterisk secure75 (n=mic@p549A241C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:44.04 | frenzy | running the make command gives me http://pastebin.ca/36273 |
| 18:44.48 | gaspiz | justinu: yes l3 interop and it's giving me headackes :) |
| 18:44.58 | Quintana | re, nobody has idea for this error ? chan_sip.c: Can't find address for host '111' ... thanks |
| 18:45.48 | znoG | &win goto #fluxbox |
| 18:45.49 | justinu | gaspiz: been there |
| 18:45.51 | znoG | oops |
| 18:46.30 | *** join/#asterisk zagaya971 (n=almeli@APointe-a-Pitre-102-1-3-9.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:46.39 | clyrrad | what does it mean when Asterisk sais Attempting native bridge? |
| 18:46.50 | clyrrad | is that not a codec issue? |
| 18:47.01 | tzanger | Quintana: you're trying to find a machine named '111' instead of its proper name |
| 18:47.09 | tzanger | i.e. you've likely got the machine address and extension mixed up |
| 18:47.23 | gaspiz | justinu: glad to find somebody who can help :), for 404 Not found first have to send out 100 trying, and it's not sending it out |
| 18:47.53 | justinu | gaspiz: i had to modify the code to fix that |
| 18:48.52 | ]expic | how can i debug rfc2833 dtmf? |
| 18:50.03 | gaspiz | justinu :can you be a little more specific? chan_sip? |
| 18:51.55 | justinu | yep |
| 18:52.44 | gaspiz | I have the same problem with 503 Service Unavailable |
| 18:54.43 | Quintana | tzanger, i have the same conf for 19 tel and i have not this problem :-( |
| 18:55.04 | Katty | Nugget, dear, it's your hugtime. |
| 18:55.14 | syle | lol frenzy |
| 18:55.20 | gaspiz | justinu: is this patch included in 1.2.1, did you submit it, if not can you give it to me or I have to modify it for myself? |
| 18:55.32 | *** join/#asterisk Mimmus (n=viggiani@ext.pitagora.it) |
| 18:55.35 | syle | learn yum install |
| 18:55.59 | badboyz | going between your * box, and voip provider, what port does it use? |
| 18:56.07 | Mimmus | how can I check for return code from an Asterisk application? |
| 18:56.08 | badboyz | is it still 5060? |
| 18:56.36 | justinu | gaspiz: no, i don't submit stuff to digium |
| 18:56.48 | justinu | it's a simple one line patch, i guess i could just tell you what to do |
| 18:57.36 | *** join/#asterisk Simon- (i=byte@2001:4bd0:1000:1:2e0:4cff:feed:1cfb) |
| 18:59.29 | gaspiz | justinu: before transmit_response_with_allow(p, "404 Not Found", req, 0); send transmit_response(p, "100 Trying", req); ? |
| 18:59.43 | *** join/#asterisk loud (n=ariel@cypher.punk.net) |
| 18:59.47 | justinu | that's the right place |
| 19:00.11 | *** join/#asterisk rob314 (n=rmckrill@207.58.205.146) |
| 19:00.55 | *** part/#asterisk rob314 (n=rmckrill@207.58.205.146) |
| 19:01.22 | gaspiz | anything else to know? is this the patch for SIP 503 service unavailable? |
| 19:01.35 | justinu | no, 404 |
| 19:01.42 | justinu | what's wrong with 503? i didn't have any trouble with that |
| 19:02.01 | jyukes | who are the top 3 high-end SIP termination providers? |
| 19:02.20 | gaspiz | justinu: before sending out 503 I should send 100 trying and I'm not |
| 19:02.42 | justinu | gaspiz: if you have an extension in your level3 context that says "Congestion", it should send 100, then 503 |
| 19:02.55 | jyukes | like i'm working with level3 and volo right now.... who else should i be talking to? |
| 19:03.03 | justinu | global crossing? |
| 19:04.37 | *** join/#asterisk tdonahue (n=tdonahue@208.51.101.201) |
| 19:05.41 | gaspiz | justinu: your'r right it first sends out 100 trying |
| 19:06.17 | justinu | it only appears to not send 100 trying when it can't find an extension in the context |
| 19:06.19 | justinu | hence the patch |
| 19:06.26 | *** join/#asterisk apardo (n=apardo@174.Red-83-33-49.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:06.40 | *** join/#asterisk apardo_ (n=apardo@174.Red-83-33-49.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:06.48 | *** part/#asterisk apardo (n=apardo@174.Red-83-33-49.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:07.03 | *** join/#asterisk darkskiez (n=darkskie@bb-195-172-53-125.ukonline.co.uk) |
| 19:07.08 | *** join/#asterisk apardo (n=apardo@174.Red-83-33-49.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:07.53 | frenzy | syle: yum install\s for FC3 arent avaialble |
| 19:08.07 | caio1982 | the regexten field of sip table for asteriak realtime is just the extension to use in the registering or the whole register string? |
| 19:08.16 | frenzy | yum installs FC3 for SER |
| 19:08.21 | docelm0 | is damin alive? |
| 19:08.24 | Katty | i don't suppose anyone has the phantom of the opera sound track from 2004 |
| 19:08.24 | docelm0 | HAY DAMIN! |
| 19:08.29 | Katty | do they? |
| 19:08.41 | docelm0 | Katty, question is why would they |
| 19:08.49 | Katty | docelm0: because opera is dreamy. |
| 19:09.06 | docelm0 | Id sooner have a tooth pulled without drugs |
| 19:09.10 | Katty | docelm0: and andrew lloyd webber is a genius. |
| 19:09.24 | Katty | docelm0: i somehow doubt that. |
| 19:09.30 | Katty | docelm0: webber is exceptionally classy. |
| 19:09.39 | Katty | docelm0: or do you lack class? |
| 19:09.52 | rayvd | are you thinking of chris webber? |
| 19:09.54 | Katty | no |
| 19:09.56 | docelm0 | I dont know I am me.. You have never met me therefore can you really judge me? |
| 19:09.58 | Katty | andrew lloyd webber. |
| 19:10.06 | rayvd | CHRIS WEBBER! |
| 19:10.11 | Katty | docelm0: no, but i can hug you. |
| 19:10.19 | Katty | docelm0: actually, i won't. |
| 19:10.23 | Katty | docelm0: i'd get germs. |
| 19:10.31 | docelm0 | ohh baby.. bring it on.. gimme the steak sauce.. :P |
| 19:10.39 | Katty | isn't that what your wife is for? |
| 19:10.42 | Katty | go bug her. |
| 19:10.55 | docelm0 | What wife.. Im getting divorced.. |
| 19:10.56 | tzanger | steak sauce? |
| 19:11.07 | docelm0 | tzanger, long story |
| 19:11.09 | Katty | tzanger: i'm not sure how that fits in, actually. |
| 19:11.14 | *** join/#asterisk funxion (n=nunya@host-64-110-51-254.hlm.ses-americom.net) |
| 19:11.19 | Katty | tzanger: do you have the phantom of the opera soundtrack? |
| 19:11.23 | *** join/#asterisk Gunnar (n=gunnar@34.80-203-209.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:11.50 | rayvd | i have it. |
| 19:11.50 | tzanger | I do, somewhere |
| 19:11.50 | rayvd | it's fannnnnnnnntastic |
| 19:11.51 | tzanger | and I can always emule it |
| 19:12.29 | Katty | tzanger: would you web server it? |
| 19:12.31 | *** join/#asterisk asteriskmonkey (n=phil@69.156.197.242) |
| 19:12.36 | Katty | tzanger: for wgetting porpoises. |
| 19:12.51 | tzanger | perhaps :-) |
| 19:12.55 | Katty | :> |
| 19:12.57 | asteriskmonkey | lo |
| 19:13.13 | asteriskmonkey | os there a FreeBSD tree being maintained anywhere for 1.2.1? |
| 19:13.26 | asteriskmonkey | and does anyone know if the lib=pri drivers are production now |
| 19:13.28 | tzanger | unfortunately my emule client's web front end is busted, I'll have to wait until I get home to search for it |
| 19:14.40 | Katty | tzanger: i'll have all the patience in the world if you're giving me opera musics. |
| 19:14.53 | *** join/#asterisk Sedorox (i=brandon@smartserv/cna/Sedorox) |
| 19:14.53 | *** part/#asterisk darkskiez (n=darkskie@bb-195-172-53-125.ukonline.co.uk) |
| 19:17.36 | funxion | docelm0 hey do you work for MERA? |
| 19:17.58 | funxion | docelm0 or are you a customer |
| 19:18.33 | *** join/#asterisk Remowylliams (n=Mare@168.215.138.106) |
| 19:18.52 | Remowylliams | Hello everyone. |
| 19:20.09 | Darwin35 | everyonw ia gone. no-one is here alone and someoneleft the lgiht on again. while anyoneis locked him self in the john |
| 19:20.38 | *** join/#asterisk anonymouz666 (n=anonymou@gw.ideavalley.com.br) |
| 19:21.07 | Remowylliams | There are faint pulses out there in the void |
| 19:21.51 | *** join/#asterisk sese1 (n=sese@host81-151-131-44.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) |
| 19:21.57 | anonymouz666 | is it possible to recebe a IAX new from a webclient speaking IAX, and convert it to SIP invite in another context? |
| 19:22.00 | anonymouz666 | receive |
| 19:22.10 | justinu | yes, of course |
| 19:22.43 | anonymouz666 | ok |
| 19:22.47 | anonymouz666 | I will google for it |
| 19:23.02 | justinu | just accept the iax call, and dial out on a SIP channel |
| 19:23.13 | anonymouz666 | ok, thanks. |
| 19:23.16 | anonymouz666 | cya |
| 19:24.14 | _Sam-- | anyone have any comments/suggestions.....mounting a USB thumb drive as /var...how long will that last? |
| 19:24.24 | *** join/#asterisk oej (n=oej@apollo.webway.se) |
| 19:25.44 | *** join/#asterisk Sedorox (i=brandon@smartserv/cna/Sedorox) |
| 19:28.11 | *** join/#asterisk ctooley (n=ctooley@rrcs-24-227-212-162.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 19:28.44 | Remowylliams | _Sam--: How long it will last is dependant on many variables.. such as how often it's written to. How much data will build up till the devices is out of space etc. |
| 19:29.18 | ctooley | I'm having problems being hearing the person I'm calling when using a SIP device and dialing out over a SIP connection. canreinvite is set to no and allowtransfer is set to no but I'm still seeing "attemping a native bridge" |
| 19:29.20 | Remowylliams | _Sam--: /var is a very active directory generally speaking |
| 19:29.20 | _Sam-- | it is going to be run asterisk for a 7 user SIP office, write to mysql for calls and that should be it for writes |
| 19:29.45 | _Sam-- | im going to symlink a bunch of unneeded logs to /dev/null |
| 19:30.33 | Remowylliams | And you want to use a thumb drive so you can destroy the evidence incase of a raid? |
| 19:30.43 | _Sam-- | nah solid state box |
| 19:30.45 | _Sam-- | no hard drives |
| 19:30.52 | _Sam-- | the thumb stores the critical data |
| 19:30.56 | _Sam-- | the other is a read only fs |
| 19:30.59 | tzanger | so put /var on a tmpfs |
| 19:31.19 | batphone | im trying to get the sip contact IP to change |
| 19:31.28 | batphone | i have an eth1 with two different IP's on it |
| 19:31.29 | Remowylliams | _Sam--: Yeah put /var into memory you're just asking for trouble if your thumbdrive goes tits up. |
| 19:31.33 | batphone | but only one is valid for this connection |
| 19:31.39 | batphone | how do i tell asterisk to use that IP? |
| 19:32.01 | _Sam-- | good advice...glad im asked |
| 19:32.02 | ctooley | batphone, bindaddr |
| 19:32.04 | batphone | the trouble is that i also have to keep another ethernet interface bound to asterisk |
| 19:32.09 | *** join/#asterisk Juggie (i=agony@CPE00c049d9f271-CM00137186c8d8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 19:32.10 | batphone | ctooley: if i do that it will kill other calls |
| 19:32.21 | batphone | ctooley: there is a vpn on one interface and the pstn on the other |
| 19:32.36 | _Sam-- | so i would create the ramdisk, then copy /var from the thumb to a a tempfs? |
| 19:32.53 | batphone | so when a call gets initiated the sip contact going to the vpn tells the sip phone to look for the primary IP on the interface, rather than the secondary |
| 19:33.11 | batphone | and if i change the order of the IP's we lose connectivity on the other side of the network |
| 19:33.19 | batphone | so its like, either/or, but not both |
| 19:33.21 | tzanger | _Sam--: yep. Works really well |
| 19:33.26 | Remowylliams | _Sam--: That would be your best bet. then setup a shutdown routine to purge data and compress it back onto the thumbdrive |
| 19:33.34 | _Sam-- | i see...thank you both |
| 19:33.34 | *** join/#asterisk djMax (n=chatzill@artsalliancelabs.com) |
| 19:33.51 | *** join/#asterisk [gfe]tHermO (n=thermo@p54AB4FC3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:34.18 | Remowylliams | _Sam--: Here's another idea.. you can have a backup save a 3 copies a day so if you crash etc you have at elast a chance of being current |
| 19:35.00 | *** join/#asterisk santiago (n=santiago@208.195.215.97) |
| 19:35.24 | Remowylliams | Such devices are really easy to forget about till they stop working. |
| 19:36.34 | Darwin35 | I would not could not with a fox. I could not would not in a box |
| 19:37.22 | Darwin35 | I counld not wooould not n a train. I could not would not on a plane |
| 19:37.38 | [TK]D-Fender | OMG, 14 CD's for Debian 3.1?! Is this for real?! |
| 19:37.57 | Darwin35 | its becoming bloated |
| 19:38.44 | *** join/#asterisk sonic2wb (i=sonic2wb@user-1120395.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 19:39.05 | sonic2wb | what is the line to check voicemail? |
| 19:39.45 | *** join/#asterisk sluggo (n=sluggo@adsl-70-249-75-249.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 19:39.48 | Darwin35 | exten => s,1,Voicemailman |
| 19:39.57 | sonic2wb | main |
| 19:39.59 | sonic2wb | ? |
| 19:40.09 | sonic2wb | or man? |
| 19:40.13 | Darwin35 | man |
| 19:40.17 | sonic2wb | k |
| 19:40.18 | sonic2wb | thanks |
| 19:40.52 | *** join/#asterisk tdonahue (n=tdonahue@208.51.101.201) |
| 19:41.18 | sonic2wb | ack |
| 19:41.19 | sonic2wb | Jan 9 14:41:04 WARNING[7675]: pbx.c:1690 pbx_extension_helper: No application 'Voicemailman' for extension (internal, 499, 1) |
| 19:41.34 | [TK]D-Fender | VoicemailMain |
| 19:42.26 | Darwin35 | sorry |
| 19:42.33 | Darwin35 | I cant read today |
| 19:42.40 | Darwin35 | no contacts in |
| 19:42.43 | *** join/#asterisk cnet2 (n=jjohn@201.192.107.58) |
| 19:44.30 | sonic2wb | ahh it works |
| 19:44.54 | sonic2wb | for somereason asterisk reported to my softphone i had 255 messages |
| 19:44.59 | sonic2wb | when it was only 2 |
| 19:45.19 | Darwin35 | its a bug |
| 19:45.31 | Darwin35 | I have the same issue on my iax phones |
| 19:45.45 | sonic2wb | yea thats what im useing |
| 19:45.46 | sonic2wb | iax |
| 19:45.48 | sonic2wb | lol |
| 19:46.04 | Darwin35 | I have 45 iax hard phones |
| 19:46.16 | sluggo | Anyone willing to help with a IAXy/router problem? |
| 19:46.19 | sonic2wb | send me one :) |
| 19:46.27 | sonic2wb | whats up sluggo |
| 19:46.55 | Darwin35 | its a pa-1688 based unit |
| 19:47.03 | Remowylliams | Does anyone have some good general replacement fxo card suggestions? The prices on ebay have been rising and TDM400 cards are out freekin-rageous. |
| 19:47.14 | Darwin35 | you can use them for iax/sip/mgcp/skinny |
| 19:47.37 | sluggo | I'm using an IAXy on a Linksys RT31P2 for security monitoring... |
| 19:47.37 | Darwin35 | buy a channelbank |
| 19:47.38 | sonic2wb | darwin u got a link to it |
| 19:48.06 | sluggo | and it randomly drops connection with the router... |
| 19:48.07 | Darwin35 | you can see them at iareaphone.com |
| 19:49.31 | sluggo | then reconnects... but not always... totally random |
| 19:49.32 | [TK]D-Fender | TDM400 outrageous? I don't find it that expensive.... |
| 19:49.34 | sluggo | any ideas? |
| 19:49.50 | Katty | mister fender. |
| 19:49.56 | Katty | asterisk is trying to tell me something terribly important |
| 19:49.59 | Katty | but it's talking over my head |
| 19:50.04 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/36285 |
| 19:50.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Ms. Katty. |
| 19:50.10 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: what's it trying to get through my thick skull? |
| 19:50.29 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: that it has sprouted legs and walked off to lunch? |
| 19:50.36 | *** join/#asterisk Tili (i=Tili@202-133-67-184-dialup.sat.net.pk) |
| 19:50.45 | sonic2wb | sluggo sounds like to need to set how often keep-alive packets are sent |
| 19:50.53 | *** join/#asterisk A-Tuin (n=a-tuin@steves.ip.v4.me.uk) |
| 19:51.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty : Looks like a forward set up on the phone that has just chars in it. |
| 19:51.17 | [TK]D-Fender | junk* |
| 19:51.37 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: this is a polycom 500 phone. would the forward be setup in the ip thing? |
| 19:51.50 | *** part/#asterisk trig (n=jb@xob.neospire.net) |
| 19:51.57 | sluggo | okay... i'll tell you now, i'm not familiar with provisioning this device... is it something I can actually do? |
| 19:51.58 | sonic2wb | sluggo sounds like to need to set how often keep-alive packets are sent |
| 19:51.59 | Remowylliams | [TK]D-Fender: I'd like 3 fxo cards and 1 fso If you know of a place that I can get a board out fitted for less than 350 please tell me. |
| 19:53.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty : Is that only for specific callers, or anyone calling that ext? |
| 19:53.08 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: anyone calling |
| 19:53.22 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: everything gets dumped straight to his voicemail, because of this. |
| 19:53.49 | ctooley | Katty is this your phone? |
| 19:53.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty : Sounds like theres a global forward. Should be visible on the LCD screen (sk "FORWARD" |
| 19:54.02 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: there is nothing on his lcd. |
| 19:54.11 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: i went to make sure there wasn't a DND on. |
| 19:54.20 | ctooley | There's a soft key on the screen name "Forward". It sould be the 2nd from the left on the bottom of the screen |
| 19:54.23 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: where would i check for a global forward on his phone? |
| 19:54.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Should have a softkey button for it at the bottm... EVERY polycom I've ever seen has it |
| 19:54.40 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: i have one, yes. |
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| 19:54.55 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: let me go check his. |
| 19:55.00 | [TK]D-Fender | And on the reg entries tied to the line-key you should see a bouncing arrow animation to imply forwarding. |
| 19:55.28 | ctooley | Remowylliams, if you find a 4 port card that's configurable for less than $350 new, you found someone that's selling you questionable hardware. |
| 19:56.45 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: thank you, dear. |
| 19:56.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Remowylliams : Yeah... as it is $350 is a great price. |
| 19:56.55 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: crisis has ended. |
| 19:57.02 | Remowylliams | ctooley: You're dealing with questionable hardware buying the XP100 clones off ebay. |
| 19:57.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty : I'll bet they tried punching in an EXT number and because they tred it too fast it switched to alpha :) |
| 19:57.50 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: i think he accidently enabled forwarding. |
| 19:57.59 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: i noticed it was enabled, with that same goofy number in there. |
| 19:58.19 | Remowylliams | [TK]D-Fender: Does it seem disturbing that you can by a DELL for 350.00 LOL |
| 19:58.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty : The number looks goofy because as you typ it'll cycle through alpha as well depending. |
| 19:58.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Remowylliams : a Dell "What"? :) |
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| 19:59.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Remowylliams : And ask yoursel, how much does a cheap Dell PC really cost? There is a volume question. Now try and relate that to TELECOM gear... |
| 20:00.42 | [TK]D-Fender | EEK, 24k/s on BitTorrent trying to DL 14 CD's worth fo Debian :( |
| 20:00.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Absurd! |
| 20:01.00 | Katty | outlandish! |
| 20:01.02 | Remowylliams | [TK]D-Fender: I know what TELECOM gear costs. It's partly why asterisk was created. That and to sell hundreds of thousands of T1/TDM cards etc |
| 20:02.01 | Remowylliams | Oh yeah and lots and lots of IXy's |
| 20:02.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Remowylliams : Yup, so who makes a card so much cheaper than everyone else? And has any quality about it? Sure you can load up a bunch of cheap X100 clones and watch your host processing, slots, and IRQs fill up till they burst. Wouldn't want that now would you? |
| 20:02.37 | [TK]D-Fender | IAXY's? Never bought, never plan to. |
| 20:02.52 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o kram] by ChanServ |
| 20:03.31 | justinu | fender, do youself a favor and download centos from kernel.org or something :) |
| 20:04.22 | Katty | fender, do yourself a favor and hug someone. |
| 20:04.26 | Katty | fender, it's much more rewarding. |
| 20:04.34 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : I might at some point. Just that RH's mangling of the Kernel back/forth makes me dislike it plus "RPM Hell". Though I might give Debian a try |
| 20:04.34 | Remowylliams | [TK]D-Fender: I asked about alternate cards and sources. I gave my reason being that TDM400 cards were pricey. This is all valid since I'm just a joe trying to set up a nice little phone exchange for his home. |
| 20:04.34 | jarrod | how come outbound calls for some users give different ring tones than others |
| 20:04.42 | jarrod | through zaptel channels |
| 20:05.52 | djMax | pri_find_dchan: No D-channels available... Thoughts? |
| 20:07.28 | Hmmhesays | wow audiocodes support is just *wonderful* |
| 20:07.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Remowylliams : Normal Joe's don't set up phone exchanges :) |
| 20:08.12 | Remowylliams | [TK]D-Fender: I never said I was Normal. |
| 20:08.19 | djMax | (context is I had a working T1, it's now all gone to hell.) |
| 20:08.29 | Katty | Hmmhesays: hey you. |
| 20:08.34 | djMax | and then other messages like so: !! Got reject for frame 5, but we only have others! |
| 20:08.36 | Katty | Hmmhesays: you were hilarious last night, not recognizing me. |
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| 20:09.07 | Remowylliams | As an alternative, have I missed or are they just not supported. 'ISDN' cards |
| 20:09.30 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.53 | tzanger | depends on how your system is set up |
| 20:09.59 | tzanger | but yeah I'd say that |
| 20:10.06 | _Sam-- | i dont need any initrd image currently |
| 20:10.12 | *** join/#asterisk a1fa (n=a1fa@207.210.210.202) |
| 20:10.13 | a1fa | yo |
| 20:10.17 | Remowylliams | Can they be used so you talk directly to the voice channels? |
| 20:10.17 | _Sam-- | is there a way to do it without an initrd image? |
| 20:10.20 | a1fa | whats a good sip phone to buy? |
| 20:10.26 | a1fa | Linksys - Sipura SPA-841 |
| 20:10.30 | a1fa | any good? |
| 20:10.36 | a1fa | or should i buy the $140 version |
| 20:10.42 | mud | just got some, seem great |
| 20:10.53 | a1fa | Linksys - Sipura SPA-941 SIP |
| 20:11.02 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : SPA-941 is much nicer |
| 20:11.04 | a1fa | i guess 941 is better, but is it worth it |
| 20:11.51 | _Sam-- | im finding some shell scripts that do it.... |
| 20:11.56 | a1fa | Grandstream GXP-2000 |
| 20:11.58 | a1fa | ? |
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| 20:12.40 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : It may be worth it to look at the Polycom IP 501 instead ($170). For the extra money you get an extra ethernet port, PoE possible, and a bit more |
| 20:12.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Grandsuck....*shudder* |
| 20:12.56 | a1fa | kind of on a limited budget |
| 20:12.57 | a1fa | :P |
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| 20:13.06 | a1fa | i am setting up an office in Bosnia |
| 20:13.09 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : What are going to do with the phone? |
| 20:13.14 | justinu | wow, bosnia |
| 20:13.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Need speakerphone? |
| 20:13.22 | gaupe | I'm testing Thomson ST2030, seems to be a very nice phone |
| 20:13.24 | a1fa | nope |
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| 20:13.31 | a1fa | i wonder if i am going to have jitter problem |
| 20:13.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Polycom IP 301 <- $113 |
| 20:13.36 | a1fa | i need to get a new codec |
| 20:14.00 | [TK]D-Fender | Perfect phone for call center. |
| 20:14.24 | [TK]D-Fender | An el-cheapo one mind you :) |
| 20:14.59 | a1fa | Linksys - Sipura SPA-841 ? does it have a speakerphone? |
| 20:15.32 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : Yes, but shitty. The overall voice quality on it is pretty low. |
| 20:15.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Handset as well. |
| 20:15.49 | a1fa | [TK]D-Fender : what codec do you suggest? |
| 20:15.55 | a1fa | that grandstream wanst that bad |
| 20:15.58 | a1fa | budgetphone |
| 20:16.03 | a1fa | is it better than budgetphone? |
| 20:16.06 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : depends what your bandwidth can afford. G.711u :D |
| 20:16.11 | DrDeke | G.722 *grin* |
| 20:16.15 | a1fa | right |
| 20:16.17 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : debateable... |
| 20:16.24 | a1fa | ulaw jitters sometimes |
| 20:16.31 | a1fa | even tho i have 4mbit download, 1 upload |
| 20:16.40 | a1fa | and a asterisk on 100mbit pipe |
| 20:16.47 | a1fa | my asterisk is on a 100mbit pipe |
| 20:17.00 | DrDeke | Jitter is caused by the network, not the codec. (Unless the codec you are using has too high a bitrate for your network to handle, which is not likely if you are on a 100mbit connection and talking of a small number of channels.) |
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| 20:17.13 | a1fa | of course |
| 20:17.25 | a1fa | DrDeke : of course man.. but i dont know why it jitters.. maybe latency problem? |
| 20:17.36 | a1fa | i got enough bandwidth.. but sometimes it just jitters.. |
| 20:17.43 | a1fa | it could be that stupid ass broadvoice provider |
| 20:17.48 | DrDeke | Well, the definition of jitter is a variation in latency... |
| 20:17.58 | a1fa | it works one day, and then it doesnt work |
| 20:18.07 | DrDeke | Yeah, I was not very happy with the service provided to me by Broadvoice. Too bad, because their pricing plans were nice. |
| 20:18.09 | a1fa | i hope i wont have that problem establishing a link w/ bosnia |
| 20:18.19 | a1fa | DrDeke : what do you use? |
| 20:18.30 | Remowylliams | [TK]D-Fender: Any ideas or experience using isdn cards with asterisk? |
| 20:18.54 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : Well then I'd say switch to G.726 @ 32kbps. half the size, decent quality and better than G.726 which you'd have to license. GSM is las resort |
| 20:18.55 | Darwin35 | ok everyone to the hottub house |
| 20:19.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Remowylliams : nope. POTS & PRI here only |
| 20:19.09 | Darwin35 | or the bathhouse if you prefer |
| 20:19.09 | DrDeke | For DIDs, I typically use VoicePulse Connect (which is probably not the absolute BEST quality choice, but I have been mostly satisfied). For outgoing, I use a variety of providers, but mainly Teliax. |
| 20:19.20 | a1fa | GSM is very bad |
| 20:19.24 | a1fa | i dont mind licensing |
| 20:19.24 | justinu | fender: g726 @ 32kbps? |
| 20:19.27 | Darwin35 | I wish speex would grow |
| 20:19.37 | justinu | a1fa: g729 then |
| 20:19.43 | asteriskmonkey | ulaw all the way :D |
| 20:19.43 | a1fa | how many kbps? |
| 20:19.51 | a1fa | lol |
| 20:19.54 | a1fa | bandwidth hore |
| 20:19.58 | Remowylliams | [TK]D-Fender: my main dial in for the asterisk server actually comes into a old asend isdn router with a pair of pots on the back. |
| 20:20.15 | asteriskmonkey | i run many many channels using ulaw it just sounds better |
| 20:20.29 | justinu | 729 is like 8-10kbps, i think |
| 20:20.32 | asteriskmonkey | not to mention less taxing on a cpu |
| 20:20.37 | a1fa | justinu : how much for license? |
| 20:20.43 | *** join/#asterisk brockj49464_ (n=brockj49@22.105.dhcp.hope.edu) |
| 20:20.45 | justinu | $10/channel |
| 20:20.48 | asteriskmonkey | 10$ per channel for 729a |
| 20:20.49 | a1fa | cheap |
| 20:20.56 | justinu | g729 sounds pretty good, imo |
| 20:21.02 | a1fa | so i only need to get 1 then, eh? |
| 20:21.05 | justinu | less fidelity than 711, but voice sounds natural |
| 20:21.05 | asteriskmonkey | i can get you some right now lol i work for digium distro woot :D |
| 20:21.11 | a1fa | because one will be used at the time |
| 20:21.19 | DrDeke | G.729 _does_ sound extremely good. Almost as good as G.711 for voice. Although like most low bitrate codecs, G.729 will distort music horribly. |
| 20:21.38 | justinu | yeah, and it makes tones sound a bit funky |
| 20:21.40 | a1fa | i have bad ass music on hold |
| 20:21.49 | a1fa | 726 any better? |
| 20:22.06 | DrDeke | I suspect that G.726 at 32kbps will sound better for music than G.729 although I have never tried it. |
| 20:22.16 | DrDeke | But yeah, I think it would probably sound much better for music. |
| 20:22.16 | asteriskmonkey | if you worried about audio stick with ulaw :) 80kbps woo |
| 20:22.27 | a1fa | i dont know dude |
| 20:22.34 | a1fa | latency between bosnia & texas will be high |
| 20:22.48 | a1fa | asterisk is in texas, the user is in bosnia |
| 20:23.02 | a1fa | on a DSL with 1mb download, and 125kbps uplad |
| 20:23.08 | [TK]D-Fender | I'd say try G726 first, then GSM and if you don't like GSM then pay for G.729 |
| 20:23.45 | a1fa | GMS sounds horrible :p |
| 20:23.49 | a1fa | GSM |
| 20:23.54 | mog_work | bah |
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| 20:23.58 | mog_work | gsm isnt that bad |
| 20:24.00 | Beirdo | and humbug |
| 20:24.02 | mog_work | but i love g726 now |
| 20:24.04 | asteriskmonkey | gsm sucks |
| 20:24.06 | justinu | a lot of people are used to gsm |
| 20:24.11 | a1fa | i do love telemarketer |
| 20:24.11 | justinu | but I agree, it sounds like shit |
| 20:24.14 | mog_work | i have a tin ear |
| 20:24.18 | mog_work | i dont hear difference |
| 20:24.22 | rainkid | does anyone know if nufone or voicepulse still allow ANI spoofing? |
| 20:24.25 | a1fa | mog_work : lucky bastard |
| 20:24.30 | mog_work | i know |
| 20:24.32 | mog_work | its very nice |
| 20:24.38 | DrDeke | rainkid: VoicePulse Connect lets me set any ANI that I want |
| 20:24.39 | hardwire | I may have to make some munin plugins for asterisk |
| 20:24.40 | mog_work | no one allows ani spofing |
| 20:24.45 | hardwire | lo mog. |
| 20:24.47 | mog_work | callerid yes |
| 20:24.50 | mog_work | ani no |
| 20:24.53 | DrDeke | err |
| 20:24.57 | DrDeke | damn it, yeah callerid is what I meant. sorry :) |
| 20:25.06 | mog_work | ani would screw up billing |
| 20:25.06 | a1fa | Grandstream BudgeTone 100 series IP phones |
| 20:25.11 | [TK]D-Fender | I find GSM fine personally. The fact that its free and doesn't suck much CPU made it easier :) |
| 20:25.12 | a1fa | supports 729 |
| 20:25.17 | rainkid | so you cant spoof ANI anymore? |
| 20:25.18 | mog_work | no one is allowed to mess with it without at least ss7 link |
| 20:25.19 | [TK]D-Fender | GS = SUCK. |
| 20:25.21 | mog_work | you never cood |
| 20:25.23 | mog_work | could* |
| 20:25.28 | a1fa | [TK]D-Fender : i know |
| 20:25.31 | mog_work | you can sppof callerid |
| 20:25.38 | mog_work | as callerid isnt important |
| 20:25.39 | mog_work | ani is |
| 20:25.39 | rainkid | nufone and voicepulse did in a year or two ago |
| 20:25.40 | a1fa | can you spoof caller id on broadvoice? |
| 20:25.46 | asteriskmonkey | dude the atcom phones are cheap but kick ass .. there iax or sip with all codec support and a tx/rx adjustment! |
| 20:25.49 | mog_work | its how they decide who to bill |
| 20:25.50 | a1fa | SetCallerID () |
| 20:25.54 | [TK]D-Fender | a1fa : Polycom IP 301 then. If you don't need frills its a solid phone. |
| 20:25.57 | a1fa | SetCallerID (2202222) |
| 20:25.58 | mog_work | youno they didnt rainkid |
| 20:26.03 | mog_work | they let you spoof cid |
| 20:26.12 | hardwire | snom finally got g.726-32 |
| 20:26.15 | asteriskmonkey | mog_work: probably that option called accountcode :) |
| 20:26.18 | hardwire | I am tempted to test it out |
| 20:26.32 | hardwire | but I run mainly everything g.711u because well.. no transcoding to the PRI. |
| 20:26.40 | a1fa | http://compare.ozvoip.com/codecsupport.php |
| 20:26.43 | mog_work | they both use asterisk and dont have ss7 links they cant spoof ani |
| 20:27.07 | asteriskmonkey | whats with the dodgy need to spoof anyhow |
| 20:27.14 | rainkid | most 800 numbers (toll free, not per minute lines) use ANI to identify the caller |
| 20:27.18 | mog_work | to lie to people who check ani |
| 20:27.26 | rainkid | does nufone/voicepulse spoof this at all? |
| 20:27.33 | mog_work | no |
| 20:27.35 | mog_work | no one does |
| 20:27.41 | rainkid | i see |
| 20:27.44 | mog_work | you can spoff cid but thats all |
| 20:27.55 | mog_work | thankfully |
| 20:28.05 | Corydon-w | Well, the main reason to spoof is to be able to forward calls through to a destination without changing the original callerid |
| 20:28.09 | DrDeke | asteriskmonkey: It is not necessarily dodgy at all to spoof caller ID... If you use one provider for DIDs and others for outgoing, you might want to set the CallerID to the DID number of the phone that initiated the call. |
| 20:28.14 | Remowylliams | knock on wood, maybe i can beat the whole analog thing using a Eicon Card |
| 20:28.25 | rainkid | DrDeke, exactly |
| 20:28.29 | mog_work | callerid is not dodgy |
| 20:28.33 | mog_work | as its not official |
| 20:28.35 | asteriskmonkey | DrDeke: that makes more sense :) |
| 20:28.43 | mog_work | but spoofing ani usually implies your trying to beat telco |
| 20:28.43 | DrDeke | :) |
| 20:29.02 | DrDeke | mog: Yeah, I forgot that there was even a difference between ani and callerid before i was reminded a minute ago :) |
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| 20:29.11 | hardwire | asteriskmonkey: we have our PRI here.. if it dies (unlikely) we go through a voip provider .. we set the outboud DID for both. |
| 20:29.25 | mog_work | yeah your cid |
| 20:29.31 | DrDeke | asteriskmonkey: Also, I have a small prepaid calling card system set up, and when a user places a call through that, the callerid for the outgoing call is set to whatever my Asterisk machine received as the callerID string of the phone the user called in on. |
| 20:29.32 | mog_work | your ani is wherever that call center is |
| 20:29.32 | asteriskmonkey | hardwire: same here , but my backup uses gsm :( |
| 20:29.41 | hardwire | like.. gsm wireless? |
| 20:29.48 | a1fa | gotta go |
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| 20:29.56 | Reverend | ~weather KMWN |
| 20:30.09 | asteriskmonkey | gsm crappy codec gsm :P |
| 20:30.09 | hardwire | ~weather 99503 |
| 20:30.18 | hardwire | asteriskgeeks: thats got nothing to do with CID :) |
| 20:30.35 | rainkid | thanks for the info guys... |
| 20:30.36 | asteriskmonkey | geeks: |
| 20:30.58 | asteriskmonkey | dont confuse a monkey for a geek :D |
| 20:30.59 | Remowylliams | Take that trout |
| 20:31.00 | asteriskmonkey | i still get play |
| 20:31.08 | Darwin35 | assmonkey is my bitch so dont yank the tail |
| 20:31.21 | hardwire | ~weather KLHD |
| 20:31.28 | hardwire | bastards |
| 20:31.34 | asteriskmonkey | lol |
| 20:31.40 | Reverend | where ya looking for hardwire? |
| 20:31.55 | hardwire | anchorage.. lake hood sea plane base |
| 20:31.59 | hardwire | ~weather PALH |
| 20:32.18 | hardwire | 1953! |
| 20:32.24 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:32.55 | hardwire | hmm.. I can see atleast 30 miles |
| 20:33.14 | hardwire | seing as I can see Mt Mkinley today. |
| 20:33.18 | hardwire | McKinley. |
| 20:33.49 | hardwire | ~weather PASC |
| 20:34.04 | hardwire | that would suck. |
| 20:35.15 | Beirdo | that's not THAT bad. |
| 20:35.17 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 20:35.36 | justinu | ~weather pabr |
| 20:35.51 | Beirdo | I loved the -38C plus wind chill we got in Ottawa a couple years back |
| 20:35.56 | Beirdo | that was just so great |
| 20:35.59 | justinu | warm in pt. barrow today |
| 20:36.06 | Beirdo | ~weather alert |
| 20:36.14 | Beirdo | you suck, jbot |
| 20:36.15 | Beirdo | :) |
| 20:36.19 | hardwire | justinu: Deadhorse is nowhere near salt water. |
| 20:36.22 | hardwire | Barrow is. |
| 20:36.24 | Katty | does anyone have info on this o'reilly conference? |
| 20:36.26 | DrDeke | ~weather karb |
| 20:36.28 | Katty | like a website, perhaps. |
| 20:36.43 | hardwire | DrDeke: sweet..are you a hippie! |
| 20:36.47 | DrDeke | hehe |
| 20:36.55 | Beirdo | ~weather yyz |
| 20:36.55 | DrDeke | You might think that; you know I couldn't possibly comment *grin*. |
| 20:37.05 | Dandan | Katty: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/etel/ |
| 20:37.09 | justinu | ~weather cyyz |
| 20:37.10 | Beirdo | stupid bot doesn't take STANDARD airport codes :) |
| 20:37.15 | Katty | Dandan: thanks. |
| 20:37.18 | justinu | they have to be ICAO codes :P |
| 20:37.21 | Dandan | Katty: np |
| 20:37.22 | mut | can someone be my eyes for me? this is driving me crazyu |
| 20:37.23 | mut | http://pastebin.ca/36294 |
| 20:37.28 | mut | should that even be possible? |
| 20:37.30 | DrDeke | man, it's nice and warm here today! 37F! |
| 20:37.34 | hardwire | DrDeke: I had to sit with two hippies that wandered through Ann Arbor for a year or two. |
| 20:37.52 | hardwire | it was terribly boring hearing them chat away about how much of a hippie they were. |
| 20:38.24 | Dandan | ~weather 12285 |
| 20:38.27 | DrDeke | lol |
| 20:38.32 | Dandan | oops :) |
| 20:38.37 | Beirdo | DrDeke: break out the shorts and sandals :) |
| 20:38.54 | DrDeke | I do, perhaps, agree with some "hippie" values/ideals/etc... But someone who has to go around talking about how hippyesque they are, probably isn't :) |
| 20:38.59 | mut | anyone ideas? |
| 20:38.59 | Beirdo | ~weather cyev |
| 20:39.09 | Dandan | ~weather khfd |
| 20:39.12 | tzanger | mut: try "TawasSchoo" (leave off the 'l') -- I'm just curious |
| 20:39.20 | mut | tzafrir_laptop: also tried that |
| 20:39.26 | mut | i took of the whole school part |
| 20:39.30 | mut | returned empty set |
| 20:39.30 | DrDeke | Despite that, I do live here and have a full-time tech job, so I think that diminishes my hippie cred by quite a large margin no matter what my other views are =) |
| 20:39.39 | mut | i had to remove the whole TawasSchool up to the space for it to work |
| 20:39.58 | justinu | level3 is reconfiguring routers again |
| 20:40.05 | tzanger | not sure, mut |
| 20:40.24 | azzie | where would I get latest firmware for Polycom 601 ? |
| 20:40.35 | tzanger | a great guess would be polycom... |
| 20:41.31 | mut | if i do "Where Accountgroup = 'N4K - MI - TawasSchool'" |
| 20:43.24 | Dandan | ~weather kn11 |
| 20:43.35 | blitzrage | azzie: if you look around google, you'll find a website with all the files (you might even search voip-info.org) |
| 20:43.38 | Dandan | ~weather k18n |
| 20:43.38 | djMax | anybody have a pointer on a "REC" alarm on a PRI? |
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| 20:43.52 | mut | it returns mepty set |
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| 20:45.30 | yoyo | hi all |
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| 20:46.32 | mut | haha i found the problem |
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| 20:47.12 | mut | kick myself in the head.. "SELECT AccountGroup as District" then i group by accountgroup so it's null |
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| 20:48.19 | azzie | blitzrage, they all got 1.5.3 or 1.6.2, while the latests seems to be 1.6.3 ... |
| 20:48.31 | adrianv | has anyone had this problem: calling worked bothways but after 2 days you could only receive calls rejecting all outbound calls? |
| 20:49.20 | Reverend | adrianv i've had the opposite problem |
| 20:50.10 | mut | ok mayb enot |
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| 20:51.35 | adrianv | Reverend, hmmm. care to look at http://teste.opennet.ro/weird.txt ? |
| 20:51.36 | jbailey | Is there a single place where it's best to look for Asterisk bounties? I'm looking to see if I can offer some $$ to help fund MGCP User agent support. |
| 20:52.18 | Katty | there are asterisk bounty hunters? |
| 20:52.32 | shmaltz | Katty, only in the midwest |
| 20:52.34 | Reverend | i'm one :-p |
| 20:52.41 | Katty | horror. |
| 20:52.57 | Reverend | actually our title is Fugitive Asterisk Recovery Agents |
| 20:53.03 | Katty | ... |
| 20:53.12 | Dandan | adrianv: context do not match |
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| 20:53.58 | infinity1 | where is a good place to buy a soundpoiunt 601? |
| 20:54.11 | adrianv | Dandan, on serverA 700007 is in incoming as well as the dialed number (700001) |
| 20:54.24 | Dandan | every place is a good place and everyday is a good day |
| 20:54.29 | infinity1 | i checked froogal, and all these places are shady. high shipping, "service" fees. |
| 20:54.34 | Dandan | username=700007 |
| 20:54.34 | Dandan | secret=yoyo |
| 20:54.35 | Dandan | context=inbound |
| 20:54.40 | Dandan | fromuser=700007 |
| 20:54.40 | Dandan | secret=yoyo |
| 20:54.41 | Dandan | context=sip |
| 20:55.07 | mut | narrowed down more |
| 20:55.08 | mut | http://pastebin.ca/36296 |
| 20:55.12 | infinity1 | i think i bought a soundpoint from voxilla once, but they don't have the 601 |
| 20:55.29 | Dandan | infinity1: http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=12196639&search=soundpoint+601 |
| 20:55.32 | [TK]D-Fender | infinity1 : depends where you are. In the US I'd say www.atacomm.com. |
| 20:55.43 | [TK]D-Fender | $249 |
| 20:55.57 | Dandan | $242 on pg... |
| 20:56.18 | Katty | pg13 |
| 20:56.36 | Dandan | i prefer Ma, or at least R |
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| 20:56.55 | infinity1 | [TK]D-Fender: thanks. checking. hopefully no tax for CA |
| 20:56.58 | Katty | weirdo. |
| 20:57.07 | Dandan | Katty: a healthy male rather |
| 20:57.14 | Katty | freak. |
| 20:57.18 | mut | http://pastebin.ca/36297 |
| 20:57.18 | adrianv | Dandan, 2 servers, one i get in inbound context (here is the problem) and in the other in context sip (this one is working). even if i dial with EXTEN@CONTEXT (eg: 700001@inbound) it doesn't work but like this he -serverA- thinks i'm somebody else |
| 20:58.21 | Dandan | Katty: do not tell me that healty ppl should not watch Ma rated stuff? |
| 20:58.26 | infinity1 | i guess i'm not getting a snom. |
| 20:58.27 | infinity1 | heh |
| 20:59.27 | [TK]D-Fender | SELECT AccountGroup FROM customers WHERE Accountgroup Like 'N4K - MI - TawasSchool%' GROUP BY AccountGroup |
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| 20:59.56 | [TK]D-Fender | mut : ^^^ |
| 21:00.11 | adrianv | Dandan, and further more, why out of the blue it stopped working (without anybody doing any mods to the confs on each server) |
| 21:00.26 | mut | [TK]D-FenderL see second post |
| 21:00.36 | mut | http://pastebin.ca/36297 |
| 21:00.55 | Dandan | adrianv: no idea |
| 21:01.01 | Dandan | my guess: it didn't |
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| 21:03.32 | Damin | blitzrage: Yeah? What did he say? |
| 21:03.33 | theblue | Hi all. |
| 21:03.48 | mut | i think i may bug report |
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| 21:04.59 | theblue | can anyone tell me what the signalling ports for SIP and IAX are? |
| 21:05.06 | mut | ah |
| 21:05.08 | mut | already is one |
| 21:05.08 | mut | http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=15102 |
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| 21:06.22 | tzanger | that'll learn you |
| 21:06.49 | Nugget | mysql is crap. |
| 21:06.55 | Katty | hello, sunshine. |
| 21:07.00 | mut | heh |
| 21:07.04 | [TK]D-Fender | PostgreSQL = <3 |
| 21:07.10 | tzanger | amen |
| 21:07.15 | Katty | Nugget: and don't forget to hug. |
| 21:07.17 | syle | yeah mysql is crap to crappy admins :) |
| 21:07.26 | tzanger | no, mysql is just crap. |
| 21:07.44 | justinu | have to agree with that one |
| 21:07.47 | syle | yeah yeah and freebsd is better than linux etc, why start a database war its stupid |
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| 21:07.58 | tzanger | any DB that plays silly bugger with my data doesn't get a chance with me, sorry |
| 21:08.12 | tzanger | any DB that doesn't listen to constraints doesn't get a chance with me, sorry |
| 21:09.08 | tzanger | don't even get me started on the odd SQL compliance intracasies, fucked up installation, etc. |
| 21:09.09 | syle | if you program intelligent code it don;t matter what you use |
| 21:09.14 | tzanger | syle: bullshit |
| 21:09.17 | infinity1 | aahahahah .i like how you get to the end of your order and Atacomm jacks you |
| 21:09.29 | [TK]D-Fender | infinity1 : in what way? |
| 21:09.41 | tzanger | intelligent code recognizes that a DB should perform a duty. If I can't trust the DB to perform that duty, then intelligent code doesn't use said DB. |
| 21:09.51 | tzanger | why should I code around all the crap that mysql makes me code around? |
| 21:10.00 | infinity1 | [TK]D-Fender: they make the defualt shipping fedex 2nd day and want to charge 50 bux |
| 21:10.05 | syle | portability? |
| 21:10.07 | syle | good code? |
| 21:10.17 | syle | should i continue? |
| 21:10.17 | [TK]D-Fender | infinity1 : EEK. Chose something else :) |
| 21:10.18 | tzanger | syle: portability? mysql? you're fucking kidding, right? |
| 21:10.18 | syle | lol |
| 21:10.41 | tzanger | good code dictates that if I give a set of constraints and procedures to a RDBMS it better fucking well follow them |
| 21:10.45 | infinity1 | [TK]D-Fender: yea. at first i thought that was the standard shipping. i almost closed the window. i was expecting to get shafted. |
| 21:10.46 | syle | lol just pay for oracle then, most people more than willing to work with opensource |
| 21:10.48 | tzanger | no other DB has that problem. Only MySQL. |
| 21:10.52 | DrDeke | ugh whoracle |
| 21:11.12 | tzanger | I use opensource. Postgres has none of these issues *AND* it beats the shit out of mysql on raw speed and scalability to boot. |
| 21:11.12 | [TK]D-Fender | PostgreSQL is the closest to ANSI92 IIRC and is also the closes to DB2 which is very respected. |
| 21:11.21 | syle | by who |
| 21:11.26 | DrDeke | it's like that old song: "Relax, don't do it, when you wanna use Oracle. " |
| 21:11.28 | infinity1 | [TK]D-Fender: mostly because all the companies try to screw ya. atacomm seems reasonable now though. their cart sucks though. i could do better. |
| 21:11.42 | syle | certainly not NASA, slashdot etc, guess there morons to :) |
| 21:11.54 | [TK]D-Fender | infinity1 : Who cares about the cart... I want the PRODUCT :) |
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| 21:12.00 | tzanger | yeah, slashdot is the BEACON of a stable, heavily used web site! |
| 21:12.08 | netzwerkgoettin | hi there |
| 21:12.32 | Remowylliams | tzanger: And it's a perl baby |
| 21:12.34 | infinity1 | [TK]D-Fender: yea. but geeez. online ordering is over 5 years old. you'd think they would have it down |
| 21:12.36 | tzanger | syle: I will bet you $100 NASA does not use MySQL for anything that is even remotely required to have good data |
| 21:12.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Its true like I've been told that no-one will laugh at you for useing PostgreSQL.... |
| 21:12.58 | tzanger | I'll use SQL Server before I use MySQL for anything important |
| 21:13.11 | infinity1 | [TK]D-Fender: ok. i bought it from atacomm. does the owner of that place visit #asterisk? |
| 21:13.20 | syle | dude you obviously don;t know how to use it then, i never had bad data, and ran websites that got millions of hits a day with it, so if you don;t know how to use it or to lazy to just use postgres |
| 21:13.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Thats its more "open" matches my tastes as well as its compliances. I just wish I understood DB's better... |
| 21:13.39 | tzanger | syle: nonsense. I use a DB as a DB, not as a bit-bucket. |
| 21:13.47 | [TK]D-Fender | infinity1 : Used to I believe... |
| 21:14.19 | tzanger | syle: any DB that lets me insert "mary had a little lamb" into an integer column with only a warning (if I'm lucky) is not capable of coherent data storage |
| 21:14.23 | Nugget | not only is postgresql better, it's also free-er. |
| 21:14.31 | Remowylliams | syle: I can't be with you on this. I've been to dozens and dozens of sites that mysql has crashed/hung or burped. |
| 21:14.45 | syle | postgres doesn;t even support embedded, and needs third party addons just to do replication, so to me it sucks, to each his own :) |
| 21:14.45 | tzanger | and faster, and more scalable, and far, far, far more powerful. |
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| 21:14.45 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger : that exact example makes me shudder..... |
| 21:14.49 | Darkhalf | tzanger: Any programmer inserting "mary had a little lamb" into an integer column has got problems. |
| 21:14.55 | justinu | mysql just recently added nested queries |
| 21:14.58 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: well I could insert "hey diddle diddle, the cat and the fiddle" if that makes you feel better :-) |
| 21:15.02 | justinu | and transaction support |
| 21:15.08 | justinu | what a joke |
| 21:15.11 | Johnnie | hahahaha |
| 21:15.13 | Nugget | and mysql's nested queries ruined the planner and ignore indexes in many cases. |
| 21:15.14 | _Sam-- | chocolate and vanilla....but mysql runs perfect for what i do. |
| 21:15.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Whats the point of defining types in a DB if they're not enforced? What does MySQL think it is? EXCEL? |
| 21:15.20 | tzanger | Darkhalf: oh so you code all your business logic into EVERY front-end application you write? You're on crack. |
| 21:15.27 | syle | your comment about scalability shows your competency read a book :) |
| 21:15.52 | Darkhalf | tzanger: Well, obviously not, but one or two sanity checks can't hurt. |
| 21:15.57 | Nugget | mysql's developers have this notion that there's a 1 to 1 to 1 relationship between programmer:application:database |
| 21:16.06 | Nugget | and they make a lot of horrible assumptions on that basis |
| 21:16.24 | theblue | Ok, I want two rules in my dialplan, and I know one of them. |
| 21:16.36 | theblue | I want anything beginning with "00" to be sent one place, and I know how to do that. |
| 21:16.41 | Remowylliams | MySQL has great capabilities, and is used mostly for websites because it's easy and doesn't get all complicated. How folks cried back when it didn't have sub selects and didn't have transactions.. |
| 21:16.44 | theblue | But how do I send everything else somewhere else? |
| 21:17.02 | tzanger | theblue: easy: exten => _00X.,1,... |
| 21:17.18 | Nugget | there is no reason to use mysql. for any need you have, there's a better solution than mysql. |
| 21:17.19 | syle | i never use transactions |
| 21:17.27 | syle | i feel that should be done in your code |
| 21:17.31 | justinu | lol |
| 21:17.44 | Beirdo | oooh, the ever-so-wise Nugget is on the soap box again |
| 21:17.46 | theblue | tzanger: Ah, but everything OTHER than that! |
| 21:17.50 | Darkhalf | Hey. Emacs sucks. |
| 21:17.51 | Remowylliams | Nugget: mysql is a terrific data agrigator. |
| 21:17.57 | Nugget | I disagree |
| 21:17.59 | tzanger | theblue: not so easy |
| 21:18.12 | Darwin35 | you ar eall fired |
| 21:18.12 | theblue | tzanger: What about _X. |
| 21:18.17 | adrianv | ok... nice flame.. quick question.. how about postgresql terrible upgrade problem? |
| 21:18.32 | Remowylliams | Darwin35: LOL |
| 21:18.39 | syle | blah i knew this would start a database war lol |
| 21:18.40 | adrianv | ps: not software, sql : upgrade mydb .... |
| 21:18.52 | file[desk] | it's not a good day if we don't have a database war |
| 21:18.54 | syle | always some idiot comes in saying hey postgres is better |
| 21:18.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Frankly I think I'd sooner use SQLite and UnixODBC and make myself feel better :) |
| 21:19.02 | syle | next 30 min a war starts |
| 21:19.08 | netzwerkgoettin | is there anybody i could ask a few asterisk questions? ;) |
| 21:19.31 | Beirdo | netzwerkgoettin: nah, they're all busy fighting about SQL databases |
| 21:19.36 | tzanger | syle: well your needs certainly are not the needs of the majority of DB users |
| 21:19.40 | Katty | file[desk]: hi. |
| 21:19.53 | Beirdo | tzanger: and likely yours aren't either :) |
| 21:19.58 | Darwin35 | a db is a db is a db unless its postgress then its a god |
| 21:20.00 | tzanger | Beirdo: heh |
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| 21:20.24 | Beirdo | Darwin35: unless it's BerkeleyDB, then it sucks |
| 21:20.32 | tzanger | coding all your business logic in the application and in fact trying to validate all your data in the application is not scalable. |
| 21:20.43 | tzanger | and coding atomic transactions into your application just does not work |
| 21:20.52 | Darwin35 | DB 1- DB4 sucks yes |
| 21:21.02 | adrianv | postgresql is nice if you use vacuum alot |
| 21:21.02 | justinu | it might work if you were the only user |
| 21:21.16 | tzanger | adrianv: you obviously have not used postgres recently |
| 21:21.16 | syle | dude if you knew what a vlan was i might take you seriously on your "scalability" comments etc lol, but in reality it depends how the tables are used to figure out what db is best |
| 21:21.23 | NDT | SwK and I were talking about this...our current telecom platform is based off postgres...And it is rock solid...but I prefer to use MySQl...just because I am more comfortable with it...has really nothing to do with pros and cons of either. |
| 21:21.32 | tzanger | syle: what the fuck does vlanning have to do with DB? |
| 21:21.36 | Darwin35 | I have had less issues with portgress then mysql |
| 21:21.38 | Beirdo | heheheh |
| 21:21.41 | file[desk] | o... m... g... |
| 21:21.43 | justinu | tzanger: i was wondering that too |
| 21:21.44 | adrianv | tzanger, today we had a loadavg of ~12 because of postgres |
| 21:21.48 | Beirdo | this is just funny |
| 21:21.49 | Remowylliams | How did we get here? As far as I know, MySQL is only used to track logs and such. |
| 21:21.54 | NDT | adrianv: Heh...7.4 I gotta run vacuum on a cron cause it always seems to need it |
| 21:22.01 | justinu | php fanboys use mysql for everything |
| 21:22.04 | Remowylliams | as far as asterisk is concerned. |
| 21:22.22 | tzanger | adrianv: what version |
| 21:22.24 | file[desk] | I write my stuff abstracted so I can use whatever database I want, without the application caring that much |
| 21:22.34 | DrDeke | Yes, I notice that Postgres does result in high load averages even at low load, but it does not seem to actually use many system resources while doing so (cpu time, etc) |
| 21:22.40 | tzanger | file[desk]: which works great so long as you don't need full ACID compliance |
| 21:22.50 | file[desk] | tzanger: indeed |
| 21:23.07 | Katty | file[desk]: but will it talk to muffins? |
| 21:23.07 | Darwin35 | I just wish asterisk would move to sqlite and away from astdb aka db1 |
| 21:23.07 | [TK]D-Fender | netzwerkgoettin : just ask |
| 21:23.09 | justinu | high load averate at low load means lots of context switching, usually |
| 21:23.15 | file[desk] | Katty: naturally! |
| 21:23.22 | adrianv | 7.3.6 |
| 21:23.23 | Katty | file[desk]: i'll take two, please. |
| 21:23.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Darwin35 : I agree.... |
| 21:23.30 | file[desk] | Katty: I only have 0.25 |
| 21:23.38 | Katty | file[desk]: so? |
| 21:23.40 | Katty | file[desk]: fix it. |
| 21:23.46 | file[desk] | Katty: >.< |
| 21:23.51 | adrianv | tzanger, 7.3.6 :) |
| 21:23.51 | tzanger | adrianv: yes you need vacuum with 7.x still :-) that's been corrected |
| 21:23.54 | DrDeke | justinu: Yeah, it might be proportionally a lot of context switching, but that doesn't mean that even the context switches are going to impose much of a load. |
| 21:24.01 | Nugget | my big postgresql server (flightaware.com) is loadaverage 0.15 at the moment |
| 21:24.05 | netzwerkgoettin | have a mini asterisk setup and phone connected... anyone can call me but i'm not able to do outbound calls |
| 21:24.06 | Katty | file[desk]: i didn't mean it. |
| 21:24.17 | NDT | tzanger: 8 no longer nees vacuum run? |
| 21:24.23 | NDT | err needs |
| 21:24.23 | Katty | file[desk]: do you still love me? |
| 21:24.25 | DrDeke | wtf, nugget, you run flightaware.com ??????? |
| 21:24.26 | netzwerkgoettin | NEW_HANGUP DEBUG: Calling q931_hangup, ourstate Null, peerstate Null |
| 21:24.26 | netzwerkgoettin | NEW_HANGUP DEBUG: Destroying the call, ourstate Null, peerstate Null |
| 21:24.26 | netzwerkgoettin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.26 | justinu | having processing sitting around in the run queue is usually not a good thing |
| 21:24.29 | file[desk] | Katty: of course! |
| 21:24.31 | Katty | file[desk]: k |
| 21:24.45 | adrianv | tzanger, we have tested with 8+ but in our case you still need vacuum |
| 21:25.18 | M-I-A- | Well hello everyone, I'm back again and have put in another 30 hours of trouble shooting this half duplex issue i am having with * |
| 21:25.22 | *** part/#asterisk AcidDemon (n=AcidDemo@p5489C179.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:25.27 | Darwin35 | I say we patation asterisk to move db's |
| 21:25.57 | Nugget | DrDeke: yeah, flightaware is me. |
| 21:25.58 | adrianv | tzanger, postgresql fragmentates updates on the db wich is reeeeally not good for us |
| 21:26.00 | M-I-A- | Red bull just cant keep me going anymore |
| 21:26.02 | Nugget | well, me and two other guys |
| 21:26.16 | tzanger | adrianv: what's the application? |
| 21:26.16 | mog_work | redbykk us kufe M-I-A- |
| 21:26.23 | Remowylliams | LOL it happens Darwin35 |
| 21:26.38 | adrianv | tzanger, smsc |
| 21:26.44 | tzanger | smsc? |
| 21:27.17 | M-I-A- | mogorman? |
| 21:27.46 | Darkhalf | M-I-A-: Time to move on up to illegal drugs. |
| 21:27.48 | adrianv | sms gateway... interconnected with 3 mobile operators... delivering everything you could think of using your phone.. even web sessions for wap |
| 21:27.57 | *** join/#asterisk gnosys (n=gnosys@ip68-9-201-250.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 21:28.00 | mog_work | redbull is life M-I-A- |
| 21:28.03 | M-I-A- | Darkhalf been thinking about it :) |
| 21:28.04 | mog_work | i was off by a key |
| 21:28.08 | M-I-A- | lol |
| 21:28.19 | M-I-A- | one key will do it |
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| 21:28.44 | hardwire | ? |
| 21:28.59 | adrianv | tzanger, usually a vacuum takes about 30min |
| 21:29.01 | hardwire | damnit |
| 21:29.03 | hardwire | who is giggling |
| 21:29.11 | hardwire | stop it now! |
| 21:29.12 | Katty | me. |
| 21:29.18 | Katty | shan't. |
| 21:29.24 | Optic | i'm having a weird asterisk voicemail problem in 1.2.1 -- parts of the voicemail messages seem to be missing |
| 21:29.32 | syle | man leave it alone let him think postgres is better :) |
| 21:29.33 | Optic | it's like sections are just clipped out |
| 21:29.42 | Katty | Optic: something to do with silent detect? |
| 21:29.49 | Optic | this is from outside calls coming in through PRI, kind of strange |
| 21:29.54 | Optic | is there silence detect in voicemail? :) |
| 21:29.56 | tzanger | haha |
| 21:30.06 | Katty | how should i know? |
| 21:30.16 | Optic | i dunno :) |
| 21:30.21 | Katty | well i don't either. |
| 21:30.31 | Katty | but it was an idea. |
| 21:30.46 | frenzy | Jan 9 21:30:34 NOTICE[4776]: rtp.c:564 ast_rtp_read: Unknown RTP codec 99 received |
| 21:30.54 | Optic | katty: and a very good one at that :) |
| 21:33.02 | Darwin35 | we need cheaper hardware |
| 21:33.45 | tzanger | adrianv: have you tlaked to the gurus at #postgresql ? |
| 21:34.10 | Katty | Optic: that's what they all say. |
| 21:34.14 | Katty | Optic: people think i'm dumb here. |
| 21:34.38 | Optic | voicemail definately has slience detection documented for ending calls |
| 21:34.47 | adrianv | tzanger, personally not yet, but the db admin has |
| 21:35.02 | shmaltz | why am I getting this error when trying to complie zaptel on a linux2.6.15 kernel? |
| 21:35.04 | shmaltz | /usr/src/zap1.2/zaptel.c:176: warning: `fcstab' defined but not used |
| 21:35.06 | shmaltz | I'm doing make linux26 |
| 21:36.52 | adrianv | shmaltz, it's not an error, just a warning... |
| 21:37.18 | adrianv | you should be able to compile zaptel if it's only that |
| 21:37.25 | shmaltz | adrianv, well I get an error like this: |
| 21:37.26 | shmaltz | /usr/src/zap1.2/zaptel.c:6509: warning: passing arg 2 of `class_device_create' makes pointer from integer without a cast |
| 21:37.28 | shmaltz | /usr/src/zap1.2/zaptel.c:6509: warning: passing arg 3 of `class_device_create' makes integer from pointer without a cast |
| 21:37.29 | shmaltz | /usr/src/zap1.2/zaptel.c:6509: warning: passing arg 4 of `class_device_create' from incompatible pointer type |
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| 21:38.25 | netzwerkgoettin | *sigh* got a call, everything worked fine |
| 21:38.46 | netzwerkgoettin | anybody ever had a similar problem? |
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| 21:40.36 | adrianv | shmaltz, vanilla install? no patches? |
| 21:40.50 | shmaltz | adrianv, the kernel? yes vanilla |
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| 21:41.41 | rangerpb | I know this is a bit OT, but can anyone recommend an app for doing voicemail and such without the need for PBX hardware? Or is Asterisk really the way to go. |
| 21:42.00 | adrianv | shmaltz, not kernel, zaptel vanilla? |
| 21:42.19 | adrianv | PS: what is this? NOTICE[15031]: chan_zap.c:8062 pri_dchannel: PRI got event: HDLC Abort (6) on Primary D-channel of span 3 |
| 21:42.22 | shmaltz | adrianv, I think its from a while back using svn tags |
| 21:42.25 | M-I-A- | Where would I start to try and figure out this half duplex issue I am having as I have spent way to much time on it already? |
| 21:42.33 | justinu | adrianv: frame slips, probably |
| 21:42.43 | shmaltz | SVN-tag-1.2.1-r7367 |
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| 21:42.49 | saftsack | hi |
| 21:43.01 | netzwerkgoettin | hi saftsack ;) |
| 21:43.05 | saftsack | runs iaxmodem stable? |
| 21:43.06 | shmaltz | M-I-A, what interface u using? |
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| 21:43.28 | adrianv | shmaltz, why don't you try with 1.2.1, they compiled without problems for me |
| 21:43.38 | saftsack | hi netzwerkgoettin |
| 21:43.39 | M-I-A- | TDM2401e and sip hard phones connected on a internal network |
| 21:43.45 | shmaltz | adrianv, what version kernel? |
| 21:43.48 | saftsack | _Sam--: hi are you here? |
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| 21:43.52 | adrianv | the "stable ones" |
| 21:43.54 | shmaltz | because I think I'm using 1.2.1 |
| 21:44.12 | adrianv | loki files # uname -a |
| 21:44.12 | adrianv | Linux loki 2.6.12-gentoo-r6test1 #1 Sun Aug 7 16:05:19 EEST 2005 i686 Pentium III (Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| 21:44.17 | shmaltz | adrianv, can you please give me the result of: |
| 21:44.19 | shmaltz | echo `uname -r` |
| 21:44.31 | _Sam-- | saftsack: hi |
| 21:44.37 | adrianv | way ahead of you :) |
| 21:44.41 | saftsack | _Sam--: do you have experiences with iaxmodem? |
| 21:45.00 | _Sam-- | no i use plain real modem |
| 21:45.01 | adrianv | which reminds me... i should upgrade the kernel.... |
| 21:45.30 | saftsack | _Sam--: i have many real modems here but i guess its smarter to connect it directly via iaxmodem to asterisk, or? |
| 21:46.13 | ravenpi | What's the best way to do overhead paging? I've got an amplifier and the speakers (legacy setup) -- do I just plug in a BT-101, or is there a "box" somewhere for that? |
| 21:46.16 | _Sam-- | i guess it depends on your preferences...i dont connect my faxing through asterisk. |
| 21:46.26 | _Sam-- | hylafax is seperate and outside of asterisk for me |
| 21:46.30 | saftsack | are there good reasons not to do that? |
| 21:46.43 | saftsack | _Sam--: for me too, but i have just one ntba where asterisk is connected |
| 21:46.48 | saftsack | so i need asterisk to go out |
| 21:46.48 | _Sam-- | in my opinion, you get better fax reliability when you dont use asterisk and use regular modem |
| 21:46.56 | M-I-A- | shmaltz should I try to explain what is happening? |
| 21:47.15 | saftsack | _Sam--: did you ever use isdn with faxes? |
| 21:47.53 | _Sam-- | no, ISDN never was big in the USA but it would be the same as using regular modem |
| 21:48.04 | twisted[asteria] | nonono |
| 21:48.08 | twisted[asteria] | isdn is faster than 56k |
| 21:48.16 | _Sam-- | no kidding |
| 21:48.19 | shmaltz | M-I-A, your zconfig.h, does it have the aggressive echo on? |
| 21:48.20 | DrDeke | I just got the following report on NANOG; have any of you noticed any problems like this? |
| 21:48.20 | _Sam-- | but in terms of sending faxes out it |
| 21:48.22 | DrDeke | I'm getting reports of reorder and intercept recordings intermittently |
| 21:48.22 | DrDeke | from wireless phones on multiple carriers to landlines and also landline |
| 21:48.22 | DrDeke | to landline. Not enough data points to narrow it down much further and |
| 21:48.26 | DrDeke | redialing seems to get through after a couple of tries. Calls |
| 21:48.26 | DrDeke | originating in Dallas terminating in California. |
| 21:48.26 | saftsack | ok, so i have three choices |
| 21:48.27 | twisted[asteria] | _Sam--, ah ys. |
| 21:48.31 | _Sam-- | if you used an ISDN line or a POTs line...hylafax wouldnt car |
| 21:48.34 | _Sam-- | care |
| 21:48.37 | DrDeke | uggggh that was ugly; I didn't realize it was pre-wordwrapped.sorry |
| 21:48.53 | saftsack | first choice: connecting hylafax with capi4hyla directly on the ntba |
| 21:49.15 | saftsack | second choice: connect the hylafaxoutgoing modem into the fxs port card in my asterisk pc |
| 21:49.24 | saftsack | third choice: connect them over iaxmodem |
| 21:49.30 | DrDeke | I am also hearing rumors of a Sprint (not PCS) fiber cut somewhere in the Western US...(?) |
| 21:49.49 | _Sam-- | to be honest, i have been happy with our faxing for years this way ....plain modem(s) connected to hylafax...but there may be better ways for you....i do not know! all i know is mine works reliably and im not fixing it cause it aint broke yet! |
| 21:49.53 | DrDeke | Oddly enough, I have been having trouble calling toll-free numbers from my employer's PSTN lines today; I didn't think anything of it until I read that... |
| 21:50.04 | justinu | whats NANOG? |
| 21:50.11 | saftsack | _Sam--: ok, thanks :) |
| 21:50.13 | DrDeke | North American Network Operators' Group |
| 21:50.25 | justinu | cool |
| 21:50.25 | DrDeke | They have an e-mail list on which I lurk. |
| 21:50.38 | saftsack | here in europe everybody has isdn so nobody wants to connect his telehpone with pots ^^ |
| 21:50.49 | DrDeke | They're... Well... They're like we are only with data networks instead of Voice/VoIP. That is to say, high opinion of themselves and can appear gruff, but one learns something useful there |
| 21:50.56 | Katty | twisted[asteria]: there you are! |
| 21:50.59 | _Sam-- | you could use ISDN modem..is the same thing we are talking about |
| 21:51.06 | _Sam-- | ISDN modem instead of POTS modem |
| 21:51.16 | twisted[asteria] | Katty, yes, here I am |
| 21:51.18 | saftsack | like an avm fritz card? |
| 21:51.33 | Katty | twisted[asteria]: i've been looking for you for practically ...30 minutes. |
| 21:51.39 | Katty | twisted[asteria]: for no particular reason. |
| 21:52.03 | twisted[asteria] | Katty, :P |
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| 21:53.27 | saftsack | _Sam--: do you know any isdn modems? |
| 21:53.44 | _Sam-- | http://www.hylafax.org/archive/2002-06/msg00007.html |
| 21:54.34 | Katty | twisted[asteria]: at least i can't remember why, anymore. |
| 21:54.54 | saftsack | _Sam--: 404 :( |
| 21:55.05 | saftsack | now it works :) |
| 21:55.12 | twisted[asteria] | Quoth the server: 404 |
| 21:55.20 | _Sam-- | worked for me! |
| 21:55.52 | _Sam-- | too bad i just threw away a sweet USRobotics ISDN modem |
| 21:56.01 | _Sam-- | i dont think it would have faxed well though |
| 21:56.12 | justinu | i still have an ascend pipeline here |
| 21:56.24 | justinu | and a motorola bitsurfer |
| 21:56.26 | twisted[asteria] | oooh |
| 21:56.30 | _Sam-- | i have a cisco isdn router still |
| 21:56.32 | _Sam-- | a 762 |
| 21:56.34 | twisted[asteria] | i had a motorola bitbucket at one point |
| 21:56.38 | rayvd | eat it! |
| 21:56.40 | justinu | heh |
| 21:56.43 | _Sam-- | heh |
| 21:56.44 | M-I-A- | shmaltz: the aggressive suppressor is commented out in zconfig.h |
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| 21:56.57 | twisted[asteria] | back when i had an isdn loop in the early 90's |
| 21:57.22 | _Sam-- | i started an ISP in 1992 w/ ISDN BRI as my main internet connection |
| 21:57.32 | twisted[asteria] | hehe |
| 21:57.33 | _Sam-- | and people would dialup..."god i cant believe how fast it is" |
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| 21:57.49 | DrDeke | Them's the good ol' days, eh Sam? |
| 21:57.53 | DrDeke | well, kind of good |
| 21:57.54 | twisted[asteria] | bonded to 128k man... it was sweet. |
| 21:57.55 | _Sam-- | helllzzz yeah! |
| 21:58.05 | _Sam-- | i dont miss babysitting linux boxes all night though |
| 21:58.12 | _Sam-- | or dealing with the packet kiddies |
| 21:58.37 | _Sam-- | this voip scene is ALOT like that scene was in 92 |
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| 21:59.11 | Katty | hello moto. |
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| 21:59.26 | saftsack | _Sam--: so ill test iaxmodem first, then i will test capi and then i will test just modems on ptsn and then i will test an isdn modem ^^ |
| 21:59.48 | _Sam-- | saftsak: seems like a lot of damn work just to send some faxes! |
| 21:59.55 | _Sam-- | maybe just sign up for efax or something! |
| 22:00.02 | saftsack | _Sam--: thats true but i cannot decide :( |
| 22:00.10 | Ciber | anyone have any idea why whenever i dial a number on my sip extension it rings the extension i have plugged into a digium card? |
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| 22:00.15 | saftsack | the first reason is reliability |
| 22:00.20 | saftsack | the second is the price |
| 22:00.31 | _Sam-- | saftsack: how many faxes per day total (send and receive total) |
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| 22:00.47 | angler | Ciber, you have your extensions wrong? |
| 22:00.49 | saftsack | _Sam--: productive work in a buero |
| 22:01.17 | Ciber | i'm dealing a outsite number and it rings my other extension |
| 22:01.21 | Ciber | err dialing |
| 22:01.31 | Ciber | i am not calling myself :P |
| 22:01.59 | Ciber | ext 201 is calling ext 200 whenever i call like my cell phone |
| 22:02.41 | saftsack | _Sam--: any guesses what would be the most reliable one? |
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| 22:06.25 | ZeMMaD | hey i just got my X100P but my asterisk is giving me problems |
| 22:06.42 | ZeMMaD | is there anyway possible that i could uninstall asterisk completely and start a fresh |
| 22:07.12 | M-I-A- | shmaltz by chance do you have any other suggestions... "walkie-talkie half duplex is the best way to describe this situation" |
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| 22:08.13 | shmaltz | M-I-A, that is the only place that I know you could enable it |
| 22:08.39 | _Sam-- | saftsack: it is all personal opinion but from what ive seen the plain modem or isdn modem should work best. |
| 22:08.46 | M-I-A- | :( |
| 22:08.50 | _Sam-- | i think faxes through asterisk have only a 90% chance of working |
| 22:08.57 | _Sam-- | faxes through plain modem would be closer to 99.9% |
| 22:09.22 | twisted[asteria] | _Sam--, i have a damn good success rate at recieving faxes via asterisk |
| 22:09.38 | _Sam-- | i hear people complaining all the time here about sending through asterisk |
| 22:09.42 | _Sam-- | "just wait for t.38" |
| 22:09.50 | twisted[asteria] | i can send "through" just fine too |
| 22:09.52 | M-I-A- | shmaltz: the funny thing is if i conference two SIP phones and a call through the TDM it gets rid of the half duplex |
| 22:09.58 | twisted[asteria] | but i can't send FROM asterisk well. |
| 22:10.25 | _Sam-- | i cant comment on that ...since ive never done it ...alls i know is my faxes work nearly 100% of the time |
| 22:10.33 | _Sam-- | and we send and receive maybe 100 a day here |
| 22:11.32 | _Sam-- | and for the cost of two POTs lines...for ME and what we do...it was well worth spending for them....maybe these days i am wrong |
| 22:13.01 | justinu | no, there's big issues |
| 22:13.13 | justinu | unless you have control over the whole network |
| 22:14.30 | M-I-A- | I cant be the only one having this issue can i? |
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| 22:17.31 | Ciber | ahhhh |
| 22:17.39 | Ciber | this is driving me insane |
| 22:17.42 | sivana | is this bad? 11: 41503 XT-PIC usb-ohci, wct4xxp |
| 22:18.48 | wunderkin | well, its not good.. can you disable usb |
| 22:19.00 | sivana | ya |
| 22:19.21 | sivana | so I definately don't want USB? |
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| 22:19.30 | wunderkin | well thats what its from |
| 22:19.47 | sivana | ya, but if I don't use any USB devices, shouldn't conflict? |
| 22:20.03 | wunderkin | well if you dont need usb you can disable it and it would clear that up yeah |
| 22:20.10 | sivana | ok |
| 22:20.14 | ctooley | sivana, hotplug is probably still scanning the usb controllers to look for new devices |
| 22:20.37 | sivana | I see |
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| 22:25.21 | M-I-A- | shmaltz: which echo canceller should I use? I have the TDM 2401 with echo cancellation does that change anything? |
| 22:25.33 | Ciber | anyone have any idea why asterisk rings my other extension when i try to make an outside call instead of calling the dialed number? |
| 22:25.59 | shmaltz | M-I-A, its not the echo can that changes this, but the agressive echo setting |
| 22:26.23 | M-I-A- | I'm just taking a shot in the dark because I am running out of options fast =( |
| 22:27.51 | M-I-A- | And I don't know where to turn to next |
| 22:29.43 | ZeMMaD | why would asterisk fail on an install?/ |
| 22:30.13 | Optic | moo |
| 22:31.56 | shmaltz | why am I getting this when modprobing ztdummy on a linux 2.6.15 system: |
| 22:31.58 | shmaltz | FATAL: Error inserting ztdummy (/lib/modules/2.6.15/misc/ztdummy.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 22:31.59 | shmaltz | FATAL: Error running install command for ztdummy |
| 22:32.01 | shmaltz | root@www:/usr/src/zaptel# |
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| 22:32.41 | M-I-A- | I'm so depressed with this asterisk install of mine... I feel like crying *tear* |
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| 22:33.26 | shmaltz | M-I-A, again, can you pastebin your /usr/src/zaptel/zconfig.h? |
| 22:33.36 | justinu | MIA: don't fret too much, you'll get it worked out |
| 22:36.07 | shmaltz | what do these mean: |
| 22:36.08 | shmaltz | ztdummy: Unknown symbol rtc_register |
| 22:36.10 | shmaltz | ztdummy: Unknown symbol rtc_unregister |
| 22:36.11 | shmaltz | ztdummy: Unknown symbol rtc_control |
| 22:36.16 | M-I-A- | shmaltz: I am using the default zconfig.h |
| 22:36.32 | shmaltz | M-I-A, can you pastebin it please? |
| 22:36.46 | M-I-A- | yup |
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| 22:37.01 | Ciber | hmm |
| 22:37.06 | Ciber | i found out my problem |
| 22:37.12 | Ciber | just don't know how to fix it lol |
| 22:37.35 | Ciber | my sip extension is sending calls to zap channel 1 |
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| 22:37.45 | Ciber | which is my other extension |
| 22:38.02 | Ciber | zap channel 4 is my outside line but i don't know how to make it send calls to that |
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| 22:38.22 | niter3 | holy s****. What a large channel. |
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| 22:39.36 | jbroome | niter3: bah, it's about 1/2 the size of #debian or #ubuntu |
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| 22:40.05 | niter3 | True. Well it's time i built a PBX system. I'm excited. . TE HE! |
| 22:40.14 | niter3 | built - build |
| 22:40.46 | jbroome | cool deal. I'm farting around with *@home, i'm beginning to think i should just do a regular install and dig into the config files by hand |
| 22:41.03 | gambolputty | Is it possible to have a variable directly in the name of a context that you want to goto or gosub to? An example would be gosub(context-$number) |
| 22:41.08 | niter3 | jbroome: Yours working? |
| 22:41.42 | jbroome | niter3: no. that's why i'm thinking i should go out on my own. i'm doing this 1/2 and 1/2 config with AMP and config files directly. i'm sure i'm FUBARing something |
| 22:42.02 | justinu | jbroome: take your own advice |
| 22:42.23 | JonR800 | yes by hand is better, you will learn more as well.. just with a steeper learning curve. |
| 22:42.26 | niter3 | hrm, well I'm going to take this project on shortly. I got about 20 computers I have to gut and bulid one good one for the PBX serve.r |
| 22:42.34 | JonR800 | lol, good advice justinu |
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| 22:43.15 | Katty | anyone in here attending the conference in san fran later this month /besides/ me? |
| 22:43.37 | `Sauron | MEow |
| 22:43.52 | `Sauron | (that's not an answer, btw) |
| 22:43.57 | Katty | k |
| 22:44.55 | jbroome | justinu: that's all the confirmation i needed. thanks. :) |
| 22:45.09 | justinu | ;) |
| 22:45.37 | niter3 | My goal is to build this PBX system and grab a simple modem card hook up the phone line and run softphones. |
| 22:45.43 | niter3 | SIP softphones that is. |
| 22:46.13 | jbroome | let me toss this out, to see if my thinking is right. |
| 22:46.28 | Katty | so no one is going to the telephony conference? |
| 22:46.34 | jbroome | We've got a colo'd box running *, we have a voicepulse connect account. |
| 22:46.44 | niter3 | ? |
| 22:47.00 | jbroome | would I do SIP from my softphone to the * box, then IAX out from there to VP? |
| 22:47.04 | jbroome | or is it all IAX? |
| 22:47.31 | niter3 | ok i need lunch. Damn tech support job. MONKEY JOB I TELL YOU. |
| 22:47.34 | niter3 | ok later guys. i'll be back |
| 22:47.41 | M-I-A- | shmaltz: http://pastebin.com/498478 |
| 22:47.47 | jbroome | I also have a couple of polycom 501's, but i'm not going to worry about them until i get the softphones working |
| 22:48.18 | justinu | i'd work on the polycoms first, you'll impress more people than with a softphone |
| 22:48.28 | justinu | hardphones are much cooler |
| 22:48.44 | JonR800 | jbroome: yes sip then iax out to vp would be a good solution. |
| 22:48.50 | justinu | also, voicepulse does SIP as well as IAX |
| 22:48.53 | justinu | so your choice |
| 22:49.45 | JonR800 | IAX is a lot easier with Asterisk though. |
| 22:50.00 | justinu | i 'spose |
| 22:50.10 | JonR800 | if you're dealing with NAT it is :) |
| 22:50.34 | justinu | you couldn't have your SIP phone reinvite and get asterisk out of the media stream with that setup |
| 22:50.42 | justinu | but he probably doesn't care about silly things like that |
| 22:51.08 | jbroome | yeah, we're both behind firewalls so IAX would be nice. and we're both vonage users, so SIP is already being forwarded to my ATA. |
| 22:51.10 | JonR800 | especially not when it's on a LAN. |
| 22:51.47 | justinu | if vonage can make sip work, you can too :P |
| 22:56.19 | kpettit | what exactly does maxexpirey do? |
| 22:56.29 | kpettit | I can't find a good explination in the asterisk docs |
| 22:56.30 | justinu | that's a good question |
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| 22:56.45 | justinu | supposedly, it limits the maximum register expire time |
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| 22:56.56 | kpettit | I'm trying to deal with some latency issues with registration |
| 22:57.11 | M-I-A- | shmaltz: does anything look odd? |
| 22:57.21 | kpettit | so is that dealing with a already registered sip peer or one trying to register? |
| 22:57.51 | justinu | either, I think |
| 22:58.05 | shmaltz | M-I-A, not as far as I can tell, did you try Digium support? |
| 22:58.14 | shmaltz | M-I-A, what phone you using? |
| 22:58.15 | *** join/#asterisk jyukes (n=jameshot@pool-138-89-211-251.atc.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:58.16 | justinu | when * responds with the 200 OK to a register, it lists what it wants the client expire time to be in that message |
| 22:58.41 | kpettit | I can see the register but never get the response back |
| 22:58.47 | M-I-A- | aastra 9133i and dlink DPH-140S and the IAXy |
| 22:59.02 | justinu | kpettit: response from what, *? |
| 22:59.11 | kpettit | from a phone to asterisk |
| 22:59.24 | kpettit | it's through a sat connection with about 800ms latency |
| 22:59.53 | justinu | you see the phone trying to register, but you never receive a response from *? |
| 23:00.15 | kpettit | I can see the phone in sip show peers, but when I try to call it I can't get to it. |
| 23:00.16 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=joe@66.11.164.239) |
| 23:00.41 | kpettit | I see the packets sent out, but they are having a hard time getting back. Been diagnoising the network all day |
| 23:01.12 | justinu | it's all UDP, so you gotta rely on the devices to restransmit |
| 23:01.51 | kpettit | exit |
| 23:01.55 | *** part/#asterisk mkrufky (n=mk@68.160.103.77) |
| 23:02.06 | kpettit | yeah, it's fustrating. Can't seem to nail this one down |
| 23:03.40 | justinu | 800ms lag is pretty intense for voice communications |
| 23:03.52 | kpettit | only option for a boat |
| 23:03.56 | justinu | you have to say "over" with that much lag |
| 23:04.30 | *** join/#asterisk viperdude (n=viperdud@84-45-168-57.no-dns-yet.enta.net) |
| 23:04.55 | JonR800 | interesting.. asterisk@sea |
| 23:05.09 | *** join/#asterisk mishehu (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) |
| 23:05.10 | kpettit | hopefully anyways |
| 23:05.18 | *** join/#asterisk zotz (n=zotz@24.231.47.175) |
| 23:05.25 | justinu | are you getting heavy packet loss over the sat link? |
| 23:06.01 | kpettit | it varies |
| 23:06.15 | kpettit | anywhere from 0 to 10% |
| 23:06.24 | justinu | publicly routeble ip? |
| 23:06.30 | kpettit | yes |
| 23:06.32 | twisted[asteria] | justinu, suprisingly enough, unless you're in the same room you'll hardly notice it |
| 23:06.50 | kpettit | right now it's at 7% packet loss |
| 23:06.51 | justinu | i dunno... i notice the 300ms or so cell phones have a lot |
| 23:07.02 | twisted[asteria] | justinu, you're just weird :) |
| 23:07.03 | *** join/#asterisk insomni (n=insomni@x1-6-00-e0-18-6f-34-ad.k455.webspeed.dk) |
| 23:07.17 | justinu | my brain is just too fast for cell phones |
| 23:07.18 | kpettit | nice thing is I'm not going over the public internet. Straight connection from the asterisk box to the boat over sat |
| 23:07.49 | sivana | can I unzip a bz2 with tar? |
| 23:08.02 | shmaltz | sivana, not afaik |
| 23:08.05 | *** part/#asterisk Naturalblue (n=Kay@195.26.12.229) |
| 23:08.23 | iDunno | yes. |
| 23:08.24 | sivana | with gz, I use the z option |
| 23:08.32 | Darkhalf | -j for bzip |
| 23:08.34 | iDunno | tar jxvf filename.tar.bz2 |
| 23:08.38 | sivana | ah ok |
| 23:08.52 | justinu | bunzip -c file.tar.bz2 | tar xvfz - :P |
| 23:08.57 | sivana | :) |
| 23:08.58 | justinu | er xvf |
| 23:09.10 | sivana | ty |
| 23:09.14 | iDunno | justinu: but why, when the j option has been there for *years*? :) |
| 23:09.23 | justinu | i work on systems without GNU tar :( |
| 23:09.30 | justinu | you just get used to doing it the old fashioned way |
| 23:09.41 | TedC | any hints for compiling zaptel 1.2.1 on debian 3.1? I'm getting tons of compile errors. |
| 23:09.50 | *** join/#asterisk MikeJ[Laptop] (n=vircuser@d14-69-8-30.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 23:09.56 | iDunno | I'd use bzip2 -dc filename.tar.bz2 | ... |
| 23:09.58 | iDunno | ;) |
| 23:10.22 | Darkhalf | I'd use control-d to run away as fast as possible. |
| 23:10.27 | Zodiacal | anyone know why im getting this message in x-lite all of a sudden? call failed: 499 Not acceptable here |
| 23:10.32 | Zodiacal | no mater what # i dial |
| 23:10.56 | *** join/#asterisk kart_179 (n=kart@201.3.87.81) |
| 23:10.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Yay, pricing info on the Sangoma Analog card! Very acceptable.... |
| 23:11.10 | justinu | 499 not acceptable is usually a codec mismatch |
| 23:11.16 | justinu | fender: how much? |
| 23:11.31 | TedC | never mind. |
| 23:11.43 | Zodiacal | justinu i don't think i changed anything. its pretty much a fresh install of asterisk @ home, i only created a few ext.'s |
| 23:11.45 | mog_work | why by sandoma hw when you can support a mog |
| 23:11.49 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : 4 port FXO = +/- 386 at most (based on EU sie selling. |
| 23:11.54 | Zodiacal | justinu it was working a few mins ago |
| 23:12.13 | mog_work | sangoma is selling there 4 port analog card? |
| 23:12.13 | denon | [buy] |
| 23:12.14 | justinu | in xlite, you can select which codecs are active by clicking on the "name" in the display |
| 23:12.23 | justinu | maybe you accidently unclicked g711 or something |
| 23:12.27 | mog_work | i thought it was stil vapor ware |
| 23:12.31 | Zodiacal | justinu ahh that did it.. Thank You! |
| 23:12.35 | justinu | lol |
| 23:12.38 | justinu | np |
| 23:12.38 | denon | mog_work: maybe they're pre-selling their vaporware |
| 23:12.41 | denon | for delivery soon! |
| 23:12.43 | mog_work | heh |
| 23:12.55 | mog_work | like vicks vapor rub |
| 23:12.58 | denon | ew |
| 23:13.25 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : Cheaper after that (335 for the next full daisy-chained card) |
| 23:13.41 | justinu | amazing that it's almost as much as a single span t1 card |
| 23:13.44 | justinu | fucking analog |
| 23:13.46 | [TK]D-Fender | mog_work : Yup, bottom of this site : http://store.myphonecall.co.uk/store/shopdisplayproducts.asp?page=4 |
| 23:13.48 | justinu | die!!! :P |
| 23:14.20 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : Single T1 usually runs almost 500$.... its a pretty decent price for multiport analog. |
| 23:14.33 | justinu | i think my a101 was like 450 |
| 23:14.35 | mog_work | if i wanted more than 4 ports id get the 2400p monster |
| 23:14.41 | [TK]D-Fender | especially a stable expandable card. |
| 23:14.51 | justinu | i'd buy a channel bank |
| 23:15.01 | mog_work | not a bad idea either justinu |
| 23:15.41 | [TK]D-Fender | I only find channel banks worthwhile for converting large old setups that can't or won't change their wiring. |
| 23:15.42 | justinu | working with dialogic for years left a bad taste in my mouth for high density PCI voice cards |
| 23:15.43 | M-I-A- | mog_work do you have a couple min to help me out? |
| 23:15.43 | mog_work | te110p + chan bank rocks as well |
| 23:15.45 | justinu | analog, or digital |
| 23:15.50 | mog_work | no prob mia |
| 23:16.19 | *** join/#asterisk krstone (n=krstone@eden-out.rutgers.edu) |
| 23:16.31 | M-I-A- | mog_work: I'm still fighting this walkie-talkie half duplex problem |
| 23:16.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Yeah, but For mid density FXO Channel banks aren't cost effective.... |
| 23:16.47 | justinu | you can buy that shit for nothing if you know where to get it |
| 23:16.48 | mog_work | whats your setup |
| 23:17.06 | *** join/#asterisk ZeMMaD (n=Zemmad@208.0.224.33) |
| 23:17.28 | ZeMMaD | could someone help me in installin asterisk?? |
| 23:17.39 | [TK]D-Fender | $700 = 8 Ports. T1 = $500. Can you get a decent channel bank with 8 FXO for anywhere near $200? |
| 23:17.50 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : But decent? |
| 23:17.54 | Ciber | 200? lol |
| 23:18.06 | mog_work | yeah you can [TK]D-Fender |
| 23:18.10 | justinu | yeah, a channel bank isn't all that ciomplicated |
| 23:18.19 | mog_work | and you can get upgradeable 2400p too |
| 23:18.22 | M-I-A- | aastra 9133i/dlink DPH-140s/IAXy Hardphones... TDM2401e card. AMD athlon machine |
| 23:18.29 | [TK]D-Fender | justinu : never said complicated, just as available without having to trust e-bay. |
| 23:18.30 | mog_work | mmmhmm |
| 23:18.37 | justinu | fair enough |
| 23:18.43 | mog_work | always half duplex |
| 23:18.47 | mog_work | ? |
| 23:19.12 | Ciber | can someone help me with this crazy issue i'm having? |
| 23:19.32 | M-I-A- | unless i conference two sip phones together with a call through the TDM then the half duplex goes away for that conference |
| 23:19.47 | mog_work | hmm do you have agressive supressor on in zap? |
| 23:19.59 | M-I-A- | pure internal pbx, nothing going out through the inet |
| 23:20.01 | M-I-A- | nope |
| 23:20.10 | mog_work | hrmmm |
| 23:20.19 | M-I-A- | http://pastebin.com/498478 |
| 23:20.27 | mog_work | if i can get on i can take a look after the clock |
| 23:20.55 | mog_work | what version? |
| 23:22.14 | ZeMMaD | could someone help a brother out |
| 23:22.32 | M-I-A- | just installed less than two weeks ago 1.2.1 |
| 23:22.42 | [TK]D-Fender | BBIAB |
| 23:23.55 | Darwin35 | you all are at fault |
| 23:24.03 | loko | file[desk] you around? |
| 23:24.20 | mog_work | hrrm |
| 23:24.29 | mog_work | did thois box ever work |
| 23:24.57 | Ciber | http://pastebin.com/498523 |
| 23:25.13 | Ciber | first call is my extension connected to a digium card |
| 23:25.21 | Ciber | second call is my sip extension |
| 23:25.52 | Ciber | for some reason it's calling my zap extension on channel 1 instead of dialing out through zap channel 4 |
| 23:28.07 | *** join/#asterisk Dovid (i=dovi5988@250.sub-70-192-84.myvzw.com) |
| 23:30.25 | Ciber | ... |
| 23:31.37 | *** join/#asterisk caio1982 (i=caio1982@CAcert-br/caio1982) |
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| 23:34.08 | harryk | hey |
| 23:34.28 | harryk | what's the best freeware softphone? ;-) |
| 23:34.41 | *** join/#asterisk kippi1 (n=kippi@cpc3-hatf3-6-0-cust42.lutn.cable.ntl.com) |
| 23:34.42 | kippi1 | hey |
| 23:35.02 | harryk | kippi1: y0 ;-) |
| 23:35.09 | kippi1 | what is the best call reporting software for asterisk (free based) |
| 23:36.43 | *** join/#asterisk DrukenHME (n=druken@CPE00121716da99-CM000e5cde4ca2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:36.55 | kippi1 | with asterisk does the CDR get copied to a text file? or do u have to use a database? |
| 23:37.21 | DrukenHME | your choice |
| 23:37.34 | DrukenHME | can be csv, or database, or perhaps both |
| 23:37.49 | justinu | kippi: i suggest http://www.areski.net/areski/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=54 |
| 23:38.10 | kippi1 | asterisk do cvs as default? |
| 23:38.30 | Darwin35 | drunken its time to solberup |
| 23:38.57 | kippi1 | hmm most of the stats apps seem to use mysql ? |
| 23:39.08 | wunderkin | blah blah blah blah |
| 23:39.11 | DrukenHME | Darwin35: why would i want to do dat? |
| 23:39.17 | Ciber | can anyone tell me how to make my sip extension dial out using zap 4-1 instead of 1-1? |
| 23:39.27 | wunderkin | dial(zap/4/blah |
| 23:39.39 | DrukenHME | shit, that was hard |
| 23:39.51 | wunderkin | hard as a chevy |
| 23:39.58 | Darwin35 | heheh |
| 23:40.02 | Ciber | where do i put that wunder? |
| 23:40.03 | Darwin35 | ok this sucks |
| 23:40.05 | DrukenHME | sinks like a rock ? |
| 23:40.08 | wunderkin | (like a rock, you know) |
| 23:40.32 | wunderkin | Ciber, where everything else goes.. in extensions.conf? |
| 23:41.05 | *** join/#asterisk riddlebox (n=james@24-171-11-166.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 23:41.16 | wunderkin | i didnt cheat on that either.. |
| 23:41.21 | wunderkin | until after, i swear |
| 23:41.33 | DrukenHME | uh huh.... |
| 23:42.25 | *** join/#asterisk Jopo (n=fogerty@MMMDCLXI.tun.saunalahti.fi) |
| 23:45.22 | kippi1 | how easy is it to setup asterisk to log to a mysql database? |
| 23:45.36 | Ciber | yes wunderkin it's aah heh |
| 23:46.01 | Ciber | damn thing keeps calling my other extension when i try to make outside calls |
| 23:46.03 | Ciber | driving me nuts |
| 23:46.54 | wunderkin | loose nut behind keyboard error somewhere |
| 23:48.13 | Ciber | i've check everywhere, the damn thing just keeps ringing channel 1 on my digium card instead of channel 4 which is the outside line |
| 23:48.39 | *** join/#asterisk Psykick (n=anon@203-167-215-33.dsl.clear.net.nz) |
| 23:48.42 | Psykick | hey guys |
| 23:48.46 | Psykick | got a problem with queues |
| 23:48.58 | wunderkin | justinu, still having PRI problems.. 1st error in 25 days (but i have restarted asterisk a few times for upgrades, etc).. we are thinking its a problem in the 25 pair cross-connect bundle maybe.. they said they had equipment capacity problems around that time but i have another circuit through them too which didnt go down, yeah could be on other equipment but i doubt that was the problem |
| 23:49.13 | Psykick | queue keeps resetting customer queue position |
| 23:49.31 | wunderkin | hmm..? |
| 23:49.32 | Psykick | says 4th in queue and so on down till 1st in queue then goes back to 4th in queue again |
| 23:49.37 | wunderkin | ah |
| 23:49.50 | wunderkin | and the customers dont like that? :D |
| 23:49.56 | Psykick | errr ... no |
| 23:50.10 | elvisthedj | Ciber: are you sure you're not just ringing a group and it's grabbing the first available channel in the group? |
| 23:50.30 | elvisthedj | (i've not been following your saga.. just the last message) |
| 23:50.31 | elvisthedj | :) |
| 23:50.56 | wunderkin | could be that too |
| 23:50.57 | Psykick | any ideas on the queues guys? |
| 23:51.01 | wunderkin | nope |
| 23:51.13 | wunderkin | not unless they are getting taken out of the queue and put back in |
| 23:51.18 | Ciber | i don't have any groups |
| 23:51.23 | Psykick | having probs with fax2pdf as well |
| 23:51.29 | Psykick | not detecting fax signal |
| 23:51.40 | *** join/#asterisk BhaalWK (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 23:52.13 | Ciber | i'm just trying to call my cellphone through ext 201 which is a sip extension and it just keeps calling ext 200 which is channel 1 on my digium card, instead of calling my cellphone |
| 23:52.40 | Ciber | it seems to think that channel 1 is the external trunk or something |
| 23:52.50 | Ciber | http://pastebin.com/498523 |
| 23:53.32 | infinity1 | anyone have "sip: name@xyz.com" on their business cards? |
| 23:53.33 | Ciber | first call rang my cellphone just fine |
| 23:53.47 | Ciber | second call rang ext 200... |
| 23:53.55 | kippi1 | how can you push text so handsets? |
| 23:54.02 | kippi1 | to |
| 23:54.09 | *** join/#asterisk kFuQ (n=somedude@c-67-185-114-199.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
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| 23:55.23 | justinu | ifinity: i've seen a few people |
| 23:56.23 | Ciber | i mean why the heck is this thing ringing zap/1-1 |
| 23:57.01 | DrukenHME | Ciber: did you change your dialplan? |
| 23:57.06 | Ciber | nope |
| 23:57.21 | infinity1 | justinu: we're considering it for our next run |
| 23:57.40 | Ciber | my other extension which is connected to zap/1-1 calls out just fine |
| 23:57.40 | infinity1 | justinu: i'm not sure it has much value ..other than shock/marketing value |
| 23:58.05 | justinu | not much at this point |
| 23:58.18 | *** join/#asterisk aless (n=fruribe@pc-100-230-83-200.cm.vtr.net) |
| 23:59.02 | infinity1 | i guess it could be used for IM / presence. but we're not that far yet |
| 23:59.39 | Psykick | man that IAX Web Phone is great |
| 23:59.39 | mog_work | im presence is the shiznight |
| 23:59.47 | Psykick | using it in an app at present |
| 23:59.48 | DrukenHME | iax webphone? |
| 23:59.49 | Psykick | works a charm |
| 23:59.50 | [av]bani | anyone in the channel use spa-3000 with amp? |
| 23:59.59 | DrukenHME | gimmie link :) |