| 00:00.00 | Tamarisk | tzafrir_laptop. I thank you and Mavvie for assistance going to make samples and make progdocs just installing doxygen |
| 00:00.33 | ome3 | anyone know of a VoIP company like nufone or nufone that would allow me ot transfer my line to them? |
| 00:00.35 | tzafrir_laptop | Tamarisk, this is a waste of time unless you really really want to read those docs |
| 00:00.37 | ome3 | lines |
| 00:01.04 | tzafrir_laptop | It generally takes relatively long time to produce those docs, and they are mostly useful for developers |
| 00:01.16 | Tamarisk | are they not helpful to me a complete, errr, simpleton |
| 00:01.32 | tzafrir_laptop | You can also grab them from http://asterisk.org/doxygen/ IIRC |
| 00:01.55 | Tamarisk | K will not make docs, what is view on samples? |
| 00:03.19 | saftsack | i hate hfc isdn cards :( |
| 00:03.56 | *** part/#asterisk Igbothom_III (n=HiltonT@office.quarkit.com.au) |
| 00:05.47 | ome3 | anyone had any experience transferring existing lines to a nice VOIP company? |
| 00:06.02 | tuxinator_linux | nice VIOP company, where? |
| 00:06.12 | Tamarisk | crap will not start with asterisk -vvvvc as in doc I have |
| 00:07.41 | AndyCap | saftsack: what software do you use with them? |
| 00:08.03 | ome3 | US |
| 00:08.09 | ome3 | I wanna transfer 9 US lines to VoIP |
| 00:08.09 | saftsack | i used misdn and now bristuff |
| 00:08.16 | saftsack | @home i use visdn |
| 00:08.23 | _Sam-- | why is the latency on dsl vs. a t1 so much worse to the other end of the circuit? |
| 00:08.30 | Tamarisk | I may have messed up here. wWhen installing from source where would you expect it to install |
| 00:09.19 | _Sam-- | like i have a t1, and i have dsl to the same provider at my office... t1 ping times to the side of the router are like 3ms...the dsl ping times to the other side of the dsl router are 30ish ms |
| 00:09.29 | AndyCap | saftsack: been using visdn with mine, since it was the easiest to install. :P |
| 00:10.03 | saftsack | but visdn is to new for a production system because it hasnt got echo cancellation and a jitterbuffer. |
| 00:11.46 | remiss | i've got average of 170ms to my sip-provder :S |
| 00:11.53 | _Sam-- | remiss: sucks to be you! |
| 00:12.25 | shido6 | NuFone can only deal with Michigan and US48 Toll free numbers ome3 |
| 00:12.28 | remiss | you've got a point |
| 00:12.33 | AndyCap | saftsack: true. :-P I'm just running it at home. |
| 00:12.53 | _Sam-- | i've had some friends connect to my * at about 120ms away, and actually sounded perfect |
| 00:12.55 | AndyCap | saftsack: not to mention a kernel crashing bug now and then |
| 00:13.13 | saftsack | yes know what you mean |
| 00:13.19 | saftsack | the same with the "stable" bristuff |
| 00:13.28 | saftsack | i hate the hfc drivers |
| 00:15.05 | [av]bani | \o/ |
| 00:15.40 | _Sam-- | [av]bani: what makes a t1 have less latency than dsl |
| 00:15.45 | _Sam-- | just the nature of the circuit? |
| 00:16.15 | ManxPower | _Sam--, Yes |
| 00:16.36 | ManxPower | Plain SDSL is pretty much exactly the same as a T-1. |
| 00:16.39 | _Sam-- | if some t1's are delivered via *dsl...how does that work? |
| 00:16.45 | ManxPower | At least when it comes to data |
| 00:17.03 | ManxPower | _Sam--, most T-1s these days are delivered on SDSL |
| 00:17.04 | _Sam-- | if dsl is more a more latent circuit type...then how do they get the low latency on that type |
| 00:17.50 | *** join/#asterisk bjohnson (n=bjohnson@i216-58-67-128.cybersurf.com) |
| 00:17.58 | ManxPower | _Sam--, That would depend on the flavor of DSL. for the most part the physical DSL is not slower or anything like that, but all the PVCs and ATM crap used to backhaul you to your ISP is the issue. |
| 00:18.11 | remiss | some isps have ~12ms on their dsl-lines... mine is not one of those.. |
| 00:18.24 | [av]bani | _Sam--: there is no diff between hdsl/sdsl and t1... only adsl is where things get squirrely |
| 00:18.26 | remiss | <12 |
| 00:19.45 | ManxPower | and IDSL. |
| 00:19.48 | _Sam-- | so if i have 2 circuits at the same place, on ADSL, and on T1, to the same exact provider...they may go over different switches and stuff, and that is why the dsl one has higher latency? |
| 00:19.51 | [av]bani | _Sam--: the signal encoding algorithms adsl uses imposes a minimum latency on data, on the order of 20-40ms or so. you can request "fast path" setup which reduces that to 8ms, but at the cost of less robust connection |
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| 00:20.56 | [av]bani | ManxPower: idsl = bri, basically |
| 00:21.14 | _Sam-- | i see... |
| 00:21.24 | [av]bani | ManxPower: except you get to use the d channel for data :) |
| 00:21.27 | justinu | 144kbps... too slow these days |
| 00:21.51 | AndyCap | saftsack: well, I guess that's the curse of the road less traveled. :) |
| 00:21.54 | AndyCap | i.e. isdn |
| 00:22.07 | [av]bani | justinu: and yet, many people use analogue dialup.... |
| 00:22.22 | _Sam-- | [av]bani: what do you lose if you get 'fast path' dsl? bandwidth? |
| 00:22.24 | justinu | which is really bad |
| 00:22.32 | ManxPower | [av]bani, it's a crime against nature, that's what it is. |
| 00:22.33 | justinu | but a lot of people can't get broadband internet |
| 00:22.54 | ManxPower | _Sam--, Define the technical details of "fast path dsl" |
| 00:23.10 | _Sam-- | bani is the one who mentioned it...im not in a postiion to define, i just heard it three lines agoi |
| 00:23.14 | ManxPower | justinu, even satellite is better than ISDL |
| 00:23.25 | justinu | i dunno, satellite has nasty latency |
| 00:23.29 | justinu | 500ms + |
| 00:23.36 | saftsack | AndyCap, thats true but tought there are a lot of people with isdn |
| 00:23.44 | saftsack | north america isnt the whole world |
| 00:23.46 | saftsack | ^^ |
| 00:23.49 | ManxPower | justinu, I know. See my hostmask, but it's better than ISDL |
| 00:23.53 | justinu | heh |
| 00:24.00 | justinu | how's voip run over that satellite link? |
| 00:24.16 | _Sam-- | must be nearly single duplex |
| 00:24.18 | ManxPower | justinu, have not even bothered to try. |
| 00:24.23 | justinu | heh |
| 00:24.43 | justinu | "hello, this is manxpower. over." |
| 00:24.51 | ManxPower | Once my lover gets a place of his own and a job, and after I buy a cottage, then I'll get a T-1 to the nearest ISP (about 15 miles away) |
| 00:25.43 | [av]bani | ManxPower: fast path is basically adsl with interleaving disabled |
| 00:25.51 | justinu | i'm 7700 feet from the CO, and covad can't get my DSL working |
| 00:26.01 | ManxPower | [av]bani, so it uses the same ATM stuff? |
| 00:26.03 | Abydos313 | our t1 at one location was down for 5hrs 19min today..my isp sucks! hehe |
| 00:26.09 | ManxPower | justinu, I'm 11 MILES from the CO |
| 00:26.24 | justinu | 60,000+ feet, i'd guess |
| 00:26.38 | _Sam-- | hey, you're 60,000 feet from the satellite too |
| 00:26.40 | justinu | long loop :) |
| 00:26.48 | AndyCap | saftsack: I dunno. germany, uk, norway, france? |
| 00:26.58 | justinu | try 65,000 miles :) |
| 00:26.58 | saftsack | australia |
| 00:27.05 | saftsack | switzerland |
| 00:27.07 | _Sam-- | a satellite cant be that far |
| 00:27.12 | justinu | it is |
| 00:27.14 | justinu | geosync orbit |
| 00:27.16 | ManxPower | Yeah, but in the rest of the world ISDN is more for voice, than data |
| 00:27.32 | saftsack | AndyCap, there a still many countries |
| 00:27.38 | remiss | norway! |
| 00:27.41 | justinu | oops, i correct myself |
| 00:27.44 | saftsack | and i forgot a big one |
| 00:27.46 | saftsack | japan |
| 00:27.47 | justinu | it's 42,165km |
| 00:27.50 | justinu | or 22,240 miles |
| 00:27.53 | _Sam-- | yeah |
| 00:27.59 | _Sam-- | 22,223 Miles - Geostationary Orbits |
| 00:27.59 | justinu | it's still a long way up |
| 00:28.11 | [av]bani | _Sam--: satellite + backhaul to ground stations |
| 00:28.15 | justinu | the ISS is at about 340km right now |
| 00:28.17 | [av]bani | easily 500ms or more |
| 00:28.25 | justinu | shuttle can go up to 1000 or so, i think |
| 00:28.28 | AndyCap | justinu: the ISS isn't geostationary. |
| 00:28.32 | justinu | i know |
| 00:28.33 | [av]bani | i have seen people complain about 1200ms on satellite |
| 00:28.37 | justinu | which is why it's at 340km |
| 00:28.44 | _Sam-- | i had no idea the satellites were that far away |
| 00:28.52 | AndyCap | _Sam--: not all of them. |
| 00:28.57 | Qwell[] | I bet ssh is awesome over sat |
| 00:29.00 | justinu | some are in low earth orbit |
| 00:29.04 | [av]bani | useful communication satellites need to be geosynchronous |
| 00:29.10 | AndyCap | [av]bani: nah. |
| 00:29.13 | _Sam-- | i get it |
| 00:29.14 | justinu | the iridium system isn't geosync |
| 00:29.15 | [av]bani | no good having to wait for your satellite to come into view all the time |
| 00:29.22 | justinu | it works like GPS |
| 00:29.24 | [av]bani | justinu: yes, but how many of them are in orbit =) |
| 00:29.25 | justinu | an entire constellation |
| 00:29.26 | AndyCap | [av]bani: just put up enough of them |
| 00:29.27 | ManxPower | --- 66.82.4.8 ping statistics --- |
| 00:29.27 | ManxPower | 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9002ms |
| 00:29.27 | ManxPower | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 939.306/1282.489/1469.882/201.951 ms, pipe 2 |
| 00:29.32 | justinu | lol |
| 00:29.43 | justinu | that's about how well GPRS works |
| 00:29.43 | [av]bani | AndyCap: putting one up geosync tends to be more cost effective than 96 LEO |
| 00:29.47 | Qwell[] | hot damn |
| 00:29.50 | AndyCap | well, they did name it iridium, but they needed fewer than that |
| 00:29.55 | Qwell[] | ... CTCP PING reply from ManxPower: 2.452 seconds |
| 00:30.06 | justinu | manxpower is living in a temporal distortion |
| 00:30.18 | ManxPower | Naw, I live on the top of a mountian |
| 00:30.18 | [av]bani | reverse the polarity of the neutron flow |
| 00:30.37 | AndyCap | btw. I was pretty sure geosync was 36kkm above the equator |
| 00:30.41 | _Sam-- | if you are on top of a mtn, you need line of site to someone with some bandwidth! |
| 00:31.08 | justinu | AndyCap: that's right, my number was from the center of earth |
| 00:31.11 | ManxPower | _Sam--, what affordable line if site do you recommend for 11 miles? |
| 00:31.15 | AndyCap | justinu: ah. :) |
| 00:31.32 | AndyCap | ManxPower: flat rate 3G cellphone? :) |
| 00:31.46 | ManxPower | And the clouds frequently come 1/3 of the way down the mountian |
| 00:31.46 | justinu | AndyCap: check out "orbiter", it's a free space flight sim (win2k only) |
| 00:32.00 | ManxPower | AndyCap, Um, there is only ONE cell provider with service where I am. |
| 00:32.07 | AndyCap | justinu: heh, does it run under wine? :) |
| 00:32.13 | justinu | AndyCap: you tell me ;) |
| 00:32.14 | ManxPower | Verizon National Access, burst up to 144Kbsp |
| 00:32.32 | justinu | you have no neighbors for 11 miles? |
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| 00:32.49 | jeebusroxors | hey,im back ;) - my calls on the POTS side of the house are not sending audio, but my VOIP side is - is this a codec thing? |
| 00:32.50 | ManxPower | I want to build a tower, put up some 900Mhz ethernet bridges at mas legal power w/max legal antenna |
| 00:32.51 | tuxinator_linux | ManxPower: don't hurt yourself with that dangerous amount of speed |
| 00:33.04 | Qwell[] | max power...heh |
| 00:33.08 | justinu | build a repeater network with your neighbors |
| 00:33.12 | justinu | all the way to the CO ;) |
| 00:33.15 | ManxPower | justinu, Um, the CO I'm connected to doesn't have DSL service |
| 00:33.34 | ManxPower | Atalla, AL FYI |
| 00:33.41 | justinu | so get an office next door to the CO and install a T1 |
| 00:33.41 | Ariel_ | hello everyone |
| 00:33.41 | _Sam-- | how long is your lease there? :) |
| 00:33.52 | justinu | then bridge it onto your bridged ethernet repeater network |
| 00:33.56 | ManxPower | justinu, Um, that's pretty much the plan. |
| 00:34.00 | justinu | cool |
| 00:34.20 | AndyCap | ManxPower: seen the ubnt.com 900Mh cards? |
| 00:34.26 | ManxPower | Actually get a T-1 to an office near the closest CO with DSL, order T-1 to where I live, then DSL backhaul. |
| 00:34.46 | ManxPower | AndyCap, Nope, have an Aironet 900Mhz box |
| 00:35.21 | justinu | i wonder what they'll charge you for 11 miles of T1 |
| 00:35.25 | _Sam-- | sounds like a lot of work for internet...you must really like that place. |
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| 00:35.31 | justinu | how many repeaters does that take? |
| 00:35.36 | justinu | at least 3, i think |
| 00:35.45 | ManxPower | justinu, Oddly enough, not a lot, since the mileage is between COs (usually) |
| 00:35.53 | bbrdrgz | Hi everyone, is shido6 around ? |
| 00:36.02 | bbrdrgz | shido6, where are you ? |
| 00:36.02 | ManxPower | I figure $400/month for the T-1 + internet service |
| 00:36.04 | justinu | hmm, how does that work? |
| 00:36.16 | justinu | 400 a month is fairly reasonable considering your situation |
| 00:36.24 | ManxPower | *nod* |
| 00:36.28 | Ariel_ | wow 400 |
| 00:36.40 | tronix | it's the fixed length contract that can be painful |
| 00:36.43 | tronix | just don't move anytime soon ;) |
| 00:36.48 | ManxPower | Of course that's JUST for the T-1, no voice, no internet, no mileage |
| 00:36.49 | Ariel_ | I am talking to 2 that are giving t1 with 6 phone lines for 399 here... |
| 00:37.06 | ManxPower | Ariel_, Includes internet service? |
| 00:37.11 | Ariel_ | including internet |
| 00:37.13 | [av]bani | 11mi is tricky but doable with 802.11b |
| 00:37.18 | ManxPower | Wign me up! 8-) |
| 00:37.19 | justinu | that's attractive |
| 00:37.21 | [av]bani | pair of 24dbi grids should do it |
| 00:37.38 | Ariel_ | fdn and ststelcom down here are offering that service |
| 00:37.46 | ManxPower | [av]bani, It's a flattop mountia (mesa) so I will still need a tower |
| 00:37.56 | justinu | bani: how about some 1337 spiral coil circular polarizing elements? bling it out, you know... |
| 00:37.59 | [av]bani | ManxPower: ?? i thought you said you had LOS |
| 00:38.15 | ManxPower | [av]bani, no, I said I live on a mountian, you assumed LOS |
| 00:38.20 | [av]bani | justinu: with vtec stickers yo |
| 00:38.26 | ManxPower | A tower may not be a bad thing anyway. |
| 00:38.29 | justinu | nawz! |
| 00:38.34 | [av]bani | <ManxPower> _Sam--, what affordable line if site do you recommend for 11 miles? |
| 00:38.37 | [av]bani | LIAR! |
| 00:38.38 | justinu | i'm building a tower |
| 00:38.47 | [av]bani | liar liar liarrrrrrrr |
| 00:38.52 | ManxPower | [av]bani, I was assuming building a tower. |
| 00:38.55 | afrosheen | hah, we have a bonded t1 for $700/mo here |
| 00:39.32 | *** join/#asterisk angom_w (n=angom@red-corp-200.38.16.10.telnor.net) |
| 00:39.45 | justinu | Author Arthur C. Clarke is credited with popularizing the notion of using a geostationary orbit for communications satellites. The orbit is also known as the Clarke Orbit. Together, the collection of artificial satellites in these orbits is known as the Clarke Belt. -- Wikipedia |
| 00:39.48 | afrosheen | [av]bani: you can go much further with 802.11b, all you need is a pair of satellite dishes (the big old-school ones) |
| 00:39.49 | Mavvie | hmm... wonder how I can mix "zap/g2&zap/g3" and "12345" into "zap/g2/12345&zap/g3/12345" |
| 00:40.06 | [av]bani | afrosheen: yeah, 30db from those... |
| 00:40.11 | ManxPower | afrosheen, Um, one word for you. WATER |
| 00:40.13 | [av]bani | a lot of work though. |
| 00:40.20 | afrosheen | ManxPower: water? |
| 00:40.21 | AndyCap | justinu: a real tower or http://www.jubileegroup.co.uk/JOS/radio/tower.html |
| 00:40.32 | ManxPower | there's a lot of water in LOS thru 11 miles of fog or rain. |
| 00:41.04 | justinu | run 1kW microwave links |
| 00:41.14 | justinu | the telcos used to do it all the time, over hundreds of miles |
| 00:41.16 | [av]bani | ManxPower: in my experience, fog and rain do not affect 11b or 11g |
| 00:41.32 | justinu | google at&t long hual |
| 00:41.33 | [av]bani | ManxPower: what affects them is ice and high winds |
| 00:41.36 | justinu | haul |
| 00:41.50 | AndyCap | justinu: long lines |
| 00:41.55 | justinu | ah, long lines, right. |
| 00:42.01 | ManxPower | justinu, yes, but that's 1kwh, not 100mwh |
| 00:42.16 | justinu | i think you can get reasonable distance with only a few watts |
| 00:42.16 | AndyCap | ManxPower: so you get an amp. and a visit from the fcc. :P |
| 00:42.18 | afrosheen | a couple of nerds pulled off the sat link with 802.11b at defcon last year, they ran out of road before they ran out of signal |
| 00:42.24 | [av]bani | ManxPower: the attenuation of water is 24ghz, not 2.4ghz :) |
| 00:42.28 | justinu | bani: your link doesn't work here |
| 00:42.38 | FuriousGeorge | how do i check if chan is avail for a parkjing spot? |
| 00:42.43 | [av]bani | justinu: ? |
| 00:42.47 | justinu | afrosheen: they probably picked a wussy road |
| 00:43.00 | justinu | bani: nm, wrong person |
| 00:43.07 | justinu | andycap: your link doesn't work here |
| 00:43.15 | AndyCap | justinu: hmm, works for me. |
| 00:43.17 | afrosheen | this is crazy http://www.unwiredadventures.com/unwire/2005/12/defcon_wifi_sho.html |
| 00:43.28 | [av]bani | afrosheen: they used amps afaik... |
| 00:43.34 | FuriousGeorge | the default behavior for parking seems like pretty simple dialplan logic. is there any way to see it? |
| 00:43.41 | ManxPower | I have to work out the 2-yr costs for T-1 + internet .vs. 700Mhz licensed wireless |
| 00:44.03 | justinu | how much bandwidth does that wireless get you? |
| 00:44.09 | Qwell[] | 144kbps |
| 00:44.12 | justinu | lol |
| 00:44.42 | afrosheen | [av]bani: read the article, they never did |
| 00:45.12 | ManxPower | At 900Mhz I'd only need NLOS, and I (think) 700Mhz may not need LOS |
| 00:45.14 | justinu | my new motto: http://www.drgibson.com/towers/motto.jpg |
| 00:45.31 | Qwell[] | NLOS? |
| 00:45.37 | [av]bani | afrosheen: well afaik they did not use 'legal' 54mw, it was above that |
| 00:45.38 | AndyCap | near LOS.. |
| 00:45.44 | ManxPower | Near Line of Sght. |
| 00:45.46 | ManxPower | Sight |
| 00:45.50 | Qwell[] | ahh |
| 00:45.55 | Qwell[] | bbl |
| 00:45.57 | [av]bani | afrosheen: i kind of doubt you could do it with 54mw unamplified |
| 00:46.07 | AndyCap | Qwell: as in near miss. :P |
| 00:46.14 | ManxPower | The more I've worked with wireless and read about wireless the more I hate it. |
| 00:46.28 | afrosheen | well they did it |
| 00:46.28 | [av]bani | ah heh, yeah they used 300mw... not legal except for hams |
| 00:46.34 | afrosheen | yeah they mention that |
| 00:46.35 | afrosheen | :) |
| 00:46.55 | [av]bani | with those dishes the ERP is probably 50W or so :) |
| 00:47.20 | justinu | heh |
| 00:47.26 | AndyCap | ManxPower: go further down and before you know it you have OTH. :P |
| 00:47.45 | [av]bani | 12ft dishes, lol |
| 00:49.35 | remiss | idefisk was kind of nice... |
| 00:50.02 | AndyCap | remiss: diax if you run windows. |
| 00:50.18 | remiss | i don't like windows |
| 00:50.32 | remiss | however... i use windows.. |
| 00:50.39 | AndyCap | ah, that's right idefisk was ported to linux now |
| 00:50.40 | remiss | now.. why do i do that? |
| 00:51.01 | *** join/#asterisk p0g0_ (n=pogo@madwifi/support/p0g0) |
| 00:51.05 | remiss | i just don't get it... |
| 00:51.43 | *** part/#asterisk Tamarisk (n=adrian@user-6887.lns5-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 00:52.54 | FuriousGeorge | anyone with an snom360 ever wonder about getting LEDs to correspond to parking spots |
| 00:53.44 | *** join/#asterisk SimplTon (n=bushah@user-108756k.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:54.13 | remiss | AndyCap: i've actually used only linux for the past three years.. and now i use windows?? |
| 00:54.27 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: you can do that with bristuff |
| 00:55.09 | FuriousGeorge | [av]bani: i cant figure out how |
| 00:55.19 | FuriousGeorge | [av]bani: i cant control where a call gets parked |
| 00:55.23 | FuriousGeorge | so how can i set the devstate |
| 00:55.34 | [av]bani | well figure it out dammit :) |
| 00:55.42 | afrosheen | [av]bani: yeah 12 foot dishes gets a lol but the distance is respectable..and you can scale it way down for a few mile link |
| 00:55.50 | FuriousGeorge | mind if i take a look at your dialplan [av]bani or is that a trade secret |
| 00:56.06 | [av]bani | afrosheen: well duh, i use 24dbi for a 3mi link so obviously i am familiar with this concept :) |
| 00:56.25 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: i would, but then i would have to kill you |
| 00:56.38 | Ahrimanes | kill him anyways |
| 00:56.39 | FuriousGeorge | [av]bani: are you just assuming it can be done, or do you KNOW it can be done |
| 00:57.01 | FuriousGeorge | because theres a code bounty of 100 for parking spots to LEDs |
| 00:57.13 | FuriousGeorge | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+bounty+snom+call+park |
| 00:57.29 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: assuming! but i thought i saw patches somewhere to allow one to associate arbitrary functions with extension hints |
| 00:57.38 | FuriousGeorge | yeah, for a meetme |
| 00:57.48 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: no, for anything |
| 00:57.48 | ManxPower | FuriousGeorge, Yes. on the mailing list |
| 00:58.20 | SimplTon | Is there and API for asterisk that can tie it into the google talk client? |
| 00:58.20 | FuriousGeorge | i cant say exten => blah,1,PARK THE CALL ON 1 SPOT |
| 00:58.20 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: its a generic thing so you can associate a hint with _anything_, so you wouldnt need devstate.. it would "just happen" |
| 00:58.25 | FuriousGeorge | so i cant set thedec state |
| 00:58.45 | FuriousGeorge | ManxPower: what about the mailing list? |
| 00:58.46 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: maybe its a test branch or something |
| 00:58.56 | FuriousGeorge | is there any way to check chanisavail(parkingspot) |
| 00:59.02 | FuriousGeorge | thats the only way i can see to do it |
| 00:59.11 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: seems to me you could just dump them into meetme rooms.. |
| 00:59.21 | FuriousGeorge | [av]bani: that was my solution |
| 00:59.29 | FuriousGeorge | [av]bani: i mean, what i was thinking about doing |
| 00:59.59 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: also the solution for eg extension pickups |
| 01:00.06 | FuriousGeorge | the two apps available to me (park, and parkandannounce) pick the spots themselves, and i cant have them set the devstate, see what i mean |
| 01:00.07 | ManxPower | FuriousGeorge, Ah parking slots. nevermind |
| 01:01.03 | FuriousGeorge | so the concensus is to do it in a meetme room then? thats what i wanted to ask |
| 01:01.31 | [av]bani | thats how i would do it for now |
| 01:01.39 | FuriousGeorge | ok, cool |
| 01:01.48 | [av]bani | meetme seems to be the solution for many ills |
| 01:02.18 | FuriousGeorge | yeah, wasnt i talking to you about that as a solution for Shared Lines |
| 01:02.23 | [av]bani | yes |
| 01:02.25 | FuriousGeorge | you could pickup and transfer or somethuing |
| 01:02.33 | FuriousGeorge | then someone said to wait on 1.4 |
| 01:02.43 | FuriousGeorge | anyway, im gonna use the meetme for parking and wait on the SLA |
| 01:02.48 | [av]bani | route all calls to meetme, then make it pickup() |
| 01:03.02 | [av]bani | or rather, join meetme |
| 01:03.06 | [av]bani | bleh |
| 01:03.25 | FuriousGeorge | [av]bani: yeah, but how do i get meetme to call the available extensions |
| 01:03.40 | FuriousGeorge | w/o call files or a manager script or something |
| 01:03.41 | [av]bani | actually... would want a queu for that i think |
| 01:03.46 | [av]bani | ick |
| 01:03.53 | FuriousGeorge | yeah, ick indedd |
| 01:03.55 | FuriousGeorge | indeed |
| 01:04.05 | [av]bani | SLA is the 'obvious correct fix' but that wont happen for a while |
| 01:04.28 | FuriousGeorge | [av]bani: ill wait, my users can barely handel their own lines right now (they are old) |
| 01:04.59 | FuriousGeorge | anyway im going to dinner catch you guys later |
| 01:06.37 | AndyCap | SLA? |
| 01:07.01 | ManxPower | Service Level Afreement |
| 01:07.05 | ManxPower | and Agreement too |
| 01:07.21 | [av]bani | shared line appearances |
| 01:07.39 | [av]bani | eg, extension 6800 exists on 25 phones, and all of them ring when you Dial(SIP/6800) |
| 01:08.14 | AndyCap | ah, ok. |
| 01:10.06 | ManxPower | I always thought that was quite limiting |
| 01:11.23 | FuriousGeorge | the cool thing is they can instantly conference and "pull eachother's calls" peers can have one shared line and 100 unique ones |
| 01:11.39 | _Sam-- | what is the advantage of shared lines vs. dial sip/1&sip/2? |
| 01:11.55 | Ahrimanes | loads less config? |
| 01:11.55 | [av]bani | _Sam--: polycom > 7 blf would work |
| 01:12.21 | [av]bani | and yes, less config |
| 01:12.27 | [av]bani | imagine 100 phones |
| 01:12.41 | [av]bani | SIP/1&SIP/2&SIP/3&SIP/4 ... is no fun |
| 01:12.45 | _Sam-- | you think there are 100 people that use ringall at one time? |
| 01:12.48 | _Sam-- | i doubt it, but possible |
| 01:12.50 | _Sam-- | maybe a telethon or something |
| 01:12.51 | [av]bani | call centers |
| 01:13.03 | Ahrimanes | well callcenters can be done with queues |
| 01:13.05 | _Sam-- | why wouldnt they use some cort of call distribution |
| 01:13.30 | [av]bani | i think the big thing would be that the polycom sidecar would become useful with * again |
| 01:13.37 | Ahrimanes | my main area for multiple registrations would be soho.. where people want the phone at work to ring at the same time as the one at home |
| 01:14.13 | [av]bani | well that, and not having to go through weird gyrations to make blf 1 pick up extension X |
| 01:14.14 | Ahrimanes | and i dont want to be configuring multiple extensions and numbers for this.. |
| 01:14.30 | Ahrimanes | blf ? |
| 01:14.37 | [av]bani | busy lamp field |
| 01:15.04 | [av]bani | so punching the blinking light would answer that line, instead of dialing it |
| 01:15.12 | Ahrimanes | ah |
| 01:15.14 | [av]bani | it would 'just work' as one would expect |
| 01:15.24 | Ahrimanes | afaik this works with snoms? |
| 01:15.37 | [av]bani | this? |
| 01:15.51 | _Sam-- | bani, if you punch a ringing blf on the gxp it will answer that line?? |
| 01:15.57 | [av]bani | _Sam--: no |
| 01:16.07 | [av]bani | _Sam--: oyu have to go through gyrations ot do that |
| 01:16.25 | _Sam-- | i wouldnt want to...it is supposed to be showing me what someone else is up to |
| 01:16.38 | Ahrimanes | [av]bani: well more than 7 blf's on snom 360 with extra panel? |
| 01:16.39 | [av]bani | well traditional pbx, you punch a blinking line = answer that line |
| 01:16.51 | [av]bani | Ahrimanes: yes, the 7 blf is a polycom firmware limit, not an * one |
| 01:17.00 | Ahrimanes | k |
| 01:17.04 | _Sam-- | bani, as always thanks for the free education. |
| 01:17.08 | _Sam-- | much appreciated |
| 01:17.14 | [av]bani | _Sam--: i'll bill you later |
| 01:17.21 | Mavvie | is it just me or is there no way in the CLI to find information about a dial group? (as defined under PRIs in zapata.conf) |
| 01:17.54 | Mavvie | or do I have to call that a span? |
| 01:18.01 | Mavvie | or a trunkgroup? |
| 01:18.07 | Mavvie | geez. this is tricky. |
| 01:18.46 | [av]bani | i imagine someone could write a special app to let one punch an extension and let it alternately dial/answer/join a line |
| 01:19.01 | [av]bani | ring it if its idle, answer if its ringing, and join if its in use |
| 01:19.25 | Ahrimanes | simple agi |
| 01:19.30 | [av]bani | simple? |
| 01:19.30 | Ahrimanes | though agi doesnt scale well |
| 01:19.46 | [av]bani | if you write it that will get you a snom bounty :) |
| 01:19.52 | [av]bani | so start coding |
| 01:20.32 | _Sam-- | what does joina line mean? |
| 01:20.32 | Ahrimanes | there's a bounty on that? |
| 01:20.39 | _Sam-- | alternately dial/answer/join a line |
| 01:20.46 | _Sam-- | barge in? |
| 01:20.49 | [av]bani | _Sam--: yes |
| 01:20.57 | Ahrimanes | currently i have an agi that on the press of a snom button adds or removes you from a queue |
| 01:21.10 | _Sam-- | ive never barged in on a call yet, just monitor |
| 01:21.12 | [av]bani | Ahrimanes: makes the snom buttons work as i described |
| 01:21.54 | _Sam-- | i use change spy... |
| 01:21.56 | Ahrimanes | [av]bani: yep, but is there a bounty on that now? |
| 01:21.59 | _Sam-- | but that just listens in... |
| 01:22.03 | [av]bani | Ahrimanes: yes afaik |
| 01:22.09 | [av]bani | $100 |
| 01:22.20 | Ahrimanes | bah $100 |
| 01:22.22 | [av]bani | dont you wanna run out and code it now :) |
| 01:22.43 | Ahrimanes | i really need better integration from phone to asterisk |
| 01:22.44 | _Sam-- | this is what chanspy says under applications wiki: "ChanSpy: Universal channel barge-in " |
| 01:22.52 | _Sam-- | but it doesnt really barge...it just listens? |
| 01:22.53 | Ahrimanes | so am looking into which of these features i can fund |
| 01:23.01 | [av]bani | _Sam--: listen only |
| 01:23.11 | ManxPower | _Sam--, Correct. In Asteriskspeak barge means listen |
| 01:23.24 | _Sam-- | i see, thanks...i was thinking it would turn the call into a 3 way call |
| 01:23.28 | [av]bani | to join in you would have to transfer them to a meetme and then join the meetme |
| 01:23.47 | ManxPower | Just like in Asteriskspeak "monitor" means "record" |
| 01:24.05 | _Sam-- | thank you for help |
| 01:24.09 | _Sam-- | for the help. |
| 01:24.12 | [av]bani | and "friend" means "bi directional extension" |
| 01:24.26 | _Sam-- | peer, user |
| 01:25.00 | Ahrimanes | [av]bani: currently my biggest problem is transferring calls to zap lines and billing the right account for it |
| 01:25.15 | ManxPower | Yup. |
| 01:25.26 | ManxPower | The one that always confused me was "CVS" means "Production" |
| 01:25.33 | Ahrimanes | haha |
| 01:25.48 | Ahrimanes | not quite as true as it used to be after 1.2 was released |
| 01:26.10 | _Sam-- | what does asterisk do with PPPD? |
| 01:26.15 | _Sam-- | PPPD: PPP daemon connector |
| 01:26.38 | Ahrimanes | but pre 1.2 did seem to mean "pick your day in CVS and test the code" |
| 01:27.14 | _Sam-- | also, why is the softhangup command from the CLI called softhangup...and not just 'hangup' |
| 01:27.51 | _Sam-- | or, why not just a regular hangup from cli |
| 01:28.51 | [av]bani | because its * |
| 01:30.10 | Ahrimanes | hard hangup would be nice to have |
| 01:30.39 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=joe@66.11.164.239) |
| 01:30.47 | _Sam-- | why would anyone use * for pppd? : |
| 01:30.48 | _Sam-- | exten => 4711,1,Answer |
| 01:30.48 | _Sam-- | exten => 4711,2,PPPD(/usr/sbin/pppd call isdn) |
| 01:30.48 | _Sam-- | exten => 4711,3,Hangup |
| 01:31.39 | _Sam-- | i guess if you had a fxo card and didnt have a modem, that is what you do? |
| 01:31.55 | cypromis | its for isdn |
| 01:32.10 | cypromis | not for analog crap |
| 01:33.19 | _Sam-- | if you had an ISDN bri or something, and an isdn modem, and linux...why would you need * to do the pppd? |
| 01:33.26 | [av]bani | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4613207988&ru=htt |
| 01:33.33 | _Sam-- | i am not trying to be a pain, i just dont understand |
| 01:33.41 | [av]bani | _Sam--: callback |
| 01:33.55 | [av]bani | initiate pppd on a server by ringing a DID |
| 01:34.38 | [av]bani | in fact, to save $ they should omit the answer |
| 01:34.48 | [av]bani | so it kicks off pppd without answering the call |
| 01:37.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Just finished a very successful server upgrade. Sangoma firmware + Wanpipe, * (1.0.9 -> 1.2.4), SpanDSP, and a few other things.... |
| 01:37.45 | _Sam-- | and it only took you 18 minutes? |
| 01:37.52 | _Sam-- | should be less for you! |
| 01:38.13 | [TK]D-Fender | heh.. more like 1 hr I think |
| 01:38.23 | *** join/#asterisk SplasPood (n=jwb@ludicrous.paravolve.net) |
| 01:38.29 | [TK]D-Fender | of actual work, minus prep, backups, etc |
| 01:38.35 | Ahrimanes | prepare, prepare, prepare, migrate, fix, fix ifx |
| 01:40.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Actually I only had 1 little bug which was during the firmware update where the script had a bug that mangled the filename it was searching for which took about 3 tries to notice, and 3 seconds to fix. |
| 01:42.29 | afrosheen | yeah I feel like that every time a new version of * comes out |
| 01:42.30 | Ahrimanes | preparation is your friend |
| 01:42.45 | afrosheen | I always forget what files I changed last time with the zaptel loading and all that |
| 01:44.22 | Primer | preparation H? |
| 01:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk xachen (i=justin@magnum.thisgeek.com) |
| 01:44.47 | _Sam-- | [av]bani did you see the pictures of the mangled gxp displays? |
| 01:45.22 | _Sam-- | there are some new links from yesterday on the wiki page |
| 01:45.33 | *** join/#asterisk mel_t (n=melteoh@219.95.165.219) |
| 01:46.23 | [av]bani | yes |
| 01:46.37 | *** join/#asterisk tengulre11 (n=tengulre@222.90.66.4) |
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| 01:46.42 | xachen | Does anybody know of a way so that I can check to see if an extension is SIP or IAX2? |
| 01:46.52 | tengulre11 | Hi,all |
| 01:46.52 | _Sam-- | i could see why people would frustrated |
| 01:46.56 | Abydos313 | sip show peers? |
| 01:47.01 | _Sam-- | id just put a peice of duct tape over if it were mine |
| 01:47.14 | xachen | it needs to do it automatically |
| 01:47.18 | Ahrimanes | xachen: check output of iax2 show peers and sip show peers and see where it pops up? |
| 01:47.19 | _Sam-- | its not like it tells you anything useful anyway |
| 01:47.29 | xachen | problem is its realtime Ahrimanes :) |
| 01:47.39 | xachen | So they won't be there unless they are logged in |
| 01:47.50 | Ahrimanes | xachen: use rtcache? |
| 01:47.56 | tengulre11 | Our company want to developt a telecom level fax server, who can give me some tips or resources? |
| 01:48.05 | Ahrimanes | otherwise you'd need to check the db |
| 01:48.06 | kc5cqm | I'm a debian virgin here, but want to install * on a minimalistic box and debian seems to allow for this nicely (no gui installer, etc). I'm doing a netinstall...question is, what packages do I need to install in order to be able to build asterisk? |
| 01:48.17 | xachen | which would involve an AGI script then |
| 01:48.49 | _Sam-- | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Linux+Debian |
| 01:48.49 | [TK]D-Fender | kc5cqm : All the basic programming libraries and the like... |
| 01:49.09 | Ahrimanes | xachen: well if the users not logged in, why do you need to know whether they're on iax or sip? |
| 01:49.30 | xachen | good point :) |
| 01:49.34 | mel_t | Hello |
| 01:49.53 | Ahrimanes | xachen: hehe.. thought so |
| 01:49.55 | mel_t | how many TDM2400 pci cards can 1 pc handle without overheating, power or interruption issues? |
| 01:49.56 | Abydos313 | do you guys have a preference on what distro you use for asterisk? |
| 01:50.16 | _Sam-- | Abydos313 : most people seem to prefer the one they know best. |
| 01:50.27 | Abydos313 | good point :)) |
| 01:50.31 | tengulre11 | anybody can help me? |
| 01:50.36 | xachen | I can just do Dial(SIP/blah&IAX2/blah) |
| 01:50.39 | Ahrimanes | mel_t: hm, depends on airflow, number of pci busses etc i guess |
| 01:50.52 | xachen | as they will only be able to have SIP or IAX enabled |
| 01:51.08 | _Sam-- | Abydos313 : there was some discussion recently which would be interesting to see if one distro on the same hardware could handle any more concurrent calls etc...i would like to see myself. |
| 01:51.15 | [TK]D-Fender | mel_t : Digium recommends no more than 2 telephony cards in any system. |
| 01:51.24 | Ahrimanes | xachen: yeah, simple solution which should work nicely, and require no config change if they switch between sip and iax |
| 01:51.26 | Abydos313 | what was the outcome? |
| 01:51.27 | _Sam-- | like using a stock debian kernel and install, vs a stock other install and kernel, etc |
| 01:51.34 | _Sam-- | there was nothing but speculation and talk |
| 01:51.50 | _Sam-- | nobody that i know of has run any tests like that |
| 01:51.56 | _Sam-- | but i dont know many people, either. |
| 01:52.14 | tengulre11 | Our company want to developt a telecom level FAX Server+Accounter, who can give me some tips or resources? |
| 01:52.17 | Ahrimanes | base install of freebsd including ports system, then cd /usr/ports/net/asterisk; make install |
| 01:52.18 | [av]bani | i used ubuntu for my cf * |
| 01:52.27 | Abydos313 | i honestly wouldn't think there would be a performance diff between them, just easy of use and stability |
| 01:52.42 | _Sam-- | maybe only if one kernel is more optimized or something |
| 01:52.44 | Abydos313 | ubuntu is pretty sweet |
| 01:52.48 | _Sam-- | but who knows |
| 01:53.00 | Abydos313 | now that i could believe a diff from |
| 01:53.14 | _Sam-- | avbani: your CF card is ro for the root fs? |
| 01:53.21 | mel_t | thanks, d-fender. has anyone had experience with the TDM2400? Pls share any experience you've had. |
| 01:53.27 | _Sam-- | or how do you handle limiting writes to cf? |
| 01:53.33 | [av]bani | _Sam--: no, but i have everything in ramdisk |
| 01:53.40 | _Sam-- | bah, figures. |
| 01:53.40 | [av]bani | and link to CF for writable stuff |
| 01:53.42 | tengulre11 | SOS!! |
| 01:53.56 | [av]bani | voicemail for example, is all on cf |
| 01:54.00 | Abydos313 | tengulre11 ask your question |
| 01:54.05 | tengulre11 | Our company want to developt a telecom level FAX Server+Accounter, who can give me some tips or resources? |
| 01:54.12 | [av]bani | other stuff gets tarred up and saved on shutdown/restored on startup |
| 01:54.21 | _Sam-- | what about logging |
| 01:54.30 | [av]bani | syslog |
| 01:54.31 | _Sam-- | and sql writes |
| 01:54.32 | tuxinator_linux | tengulre11: what does it have to do with Asterisk? |
| 01:54.35 | [av]bani | remote sql |
| 01:54.38 | _Sam-- | you write syslog to cf? |
| 01:54.40 | Ahrimanes | hm storing vm on cf.. would use up cf writes pretty quick ? |
| 01:54.48 | _Sam-- | ext2 or 3? |
| 01:54.49 | [av]bani | no... 514/udp |
| 01:54.57 | [av]bani | (lol?) |
| 01:55.04 | tengulre11 | tuxinator_linux: I dont know, no idea?? :( |
| 01:55.08 | [av]bani | reiserfs |
| 01:55.24 | _Sam-- | you think a journaling fs on a cf is a good idea? |
| 01:55.31 | _Sam-- | just extra writes? |
| 01:55.35 | [av]bani | why not? it hardly ever writes |
| 01:55.40 | tuxinator_linux | tengulre11: you won't find fax help in this channel |
| 01:55.51 | Mavvie | if I would make a feature to see the status of a group (as defined in zapata.conf). Should I put that in pri "pri show group" or zap "zap show group" or "show group" ? |
| 01:55.58 | Ahrimanes | for cf, basically dont write |
| 01:56.02 | tengulre11 | tuxinator_linux: which channel can help me? |
| 01:56.12 | Mavvie | I myself would go for "pri show group" |
| 01:56.15 | _Sam-- | i think itold you before, i run my /var from ram on the cf |
| 01:56.19 | [av]bani | it only writes on shutdown really |
| 01:56.26 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.31 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.48 | [av]bani | i just have /ramdisk and a bunch of symlinks all over the place |
| 01:56.50 | Ahrimanes | yup |
| 01:57.01 | [av]bani | run from CF, write temp stuff to ramdisk |
| 01:57.02 | Ahrimanes | what hardware? soekris? |
| 01:57.15 | _Sam-- | mine is a micro atx based |
| 01:57.18 | [av]bani | x86_64 :) |
| 01:57.19 | Ahrimanes | ok |
| 01:57.25 | [av]bani | model name : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2800+ |
| 01:57.40 | _Sam-- | model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz |
| 01:57.48 | tuxinator_linux | tengulre11: I don't know, guess you'll have to look around |
| 01:58.09 | Ahrimanes | was thinking about making soekris 4801's with * on them |
| 01:58.37 | _Sam-- | Ahrimanes : those soekris are neat...but lacking horsepower |
| 01:58.40 | _Sam-- | in my opinion |
| 01:58.43 | _Sam-- | i would rather build something else |
| 01:58.51 | _Sam-- | thast *MY* opinion. |
| 01:59.11 | _Sam-- | i mean, most of the soekris are like 266mhz processors or seomthing |
| 01:59.18 | Ahrimanes | _Sam--: true, wouldnt want to do transcoding on them |
| 01:59.39 | _Sam-- | we have this come up alot...and i think you could get more bang for the buck even with mini-itx |
| 02:00.08 | _Sam-- | again i am not an expert by any means. |
| 02:00.42 | Ahrimanes | _Sam--: i wanted them for combined router/firewall/pbx.. router/firewall takes virtually no resources and if alaw/ulaw is used neither should pbx |
| 02:01.11 | _Sam-- | for the price of the soekris outfitted...you could have a p4 :) |
| 02:01.19 | _Sam-- | in about the same footprint...ok maybe a bit bigger and clumsier. |
| 02:01.39 | Ahrimanes | yes, but more noise, larger case and actual moving parts (fans etc) |
| 02:02.01 | Ahrimanes | soekris boxes have amazing uptimes due to no moving parts |
| 02:02.09 | _Sam-- | i think they make some fanless setups |
| 02:02.36 | _Sam-- | fanless: |
| 02:02.37 | _Sam-- | http://www.logicsupply.com/product_info.php/cPath/78_76/products_id/268 |
| 02:02.39 | *** join/#asterisk Fedoracore6 (n=FC$@219.95.26.144) |
| 02:02.45 | Fedoracore6 | hai all |
| 02:03.01 | Ahrimanes | ah yes i have an epia mii-10000 here |
| 02:03.11 | Fedoracore6 | i using FC4 .. to make IVR sistem (touch tones) |
| 02:03.17 | Ahrimanes | but still the case is much larger etc |
| 02:03.29 | Fedoracore6 | so where my first start ... |
| 02:03.30 | *** join/#asterisk glm2k (n=GLM@rrcs-24-199-11-46.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 02:03.33 | _Sam-- | 17cm x 17cm |
| 02:03.38 | _Sam-- | i need a rule to see how big that really is |
| 02:03.47 | _Sam-- | how big is a cd jewel case? |
| 02:03.50 | Qwell | google it |
| 02:03.52 | Ahrimanes | _Sam--: on the soekris, i can turn off the serial console and no local login option is available |
| 02:04.03 | Qwell | 17cm in inches |
| 02:04.10 | Fedoracore6 | las night i done ... to add extensions 100 and 110 |
| 02:04.20 | _Sam-- | that is not a big form factor |
| 02:04.23 | Ahrimanes | http://www.google.dk/search?hl=en&q=17+cm+in+inches |
| 02:04.38 | _Sam-- | so with case, you are looking at 8 x8? |
| 02:04.38 | Ahrimanes | _Sam--: no, but stille almost double size of soekris |
| 02:04.43 | Fedoracore6 | when i press 100 and 110 the system ... say greeting |
| 02:05.08 | Qwell | Fedoracore6: Language what native is your? |
| 02:05.12 | _Sam-- | the soekris is 5.2. x 5.7 |
| 02:05.20 | Ahrimanes | _Sam--: you could go with nano itx.. but pricy |
| 02:05.20 | _Sam-- | the mini itx is 6.6 x 6.6 |
| 02:05.24 | _Sam-- | not a HUGE difference |
| 02:05.33 | Abydos313 | too expensive for what you get |
| 02:05.36 | [av]bani | if i were to build a micro *, it would be with gumstix |
| 02:06.08 | mikefoo | can anyone recommend a terminating voip provider in US? |
| 02:06.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell ..... you're just mean :) |
| 02:06.18 | Qwell | [TK]D-Fender: he'll understand it easier |
| 02:06.21 | mikefoo | loooking at voipjet and voicepulse right now.. |
| 02:06.29 | [TK]D-Fender | And you forgot the "hmmmMMMMMMM?! at the end ;) |
| 02:06.33 | _Sam-- | hahah |
| 02:06.42 | glm2k | mikefoo: i'll second voipjet |
| 02:06.59 | glm2k | mikefoo: there are lots more, depending on whether you are after reliability or cost |
| 02:07.02 | mikefoo | glm2k: cool, you use for personal use or servicing clients with it? |
| 02:07.17 | glm2k | mikefoo: both |
| 02:07.19 | Ahrimanes | _Sam--: no not huge, but the standard case you can order with the soekris is really nice... getting a similar one for mini itx hasnt been easy for me |
| 02:07.31 | mikefoo | glm2k: well I want to stay under 3c/min that for sure, and all I need it outbound. can you suggest anyone else? |
| 02:07.42 | _Sam-- | Ahrimanes : its all good, alot of people love their soekris, sorry to be a detractor |
| 02:07.51 | mikefoo | s/is/it |
| 02:08.18 | glm2k | mikefoo: just my experience, nufone, voxee, voipjet, plainvoip |
| 02:08.33 | glm2k | that's the order i have in my system. |
| 02:09.10 | mikefoo | sweet.. i have heard good things about nufone, just their website scares me, heheh |
| 02:09.16 | glm2k | hehe |
| 02:09.19 | Ahrimanes | _Sam--: hehe.. for clients with faster cpu needs i'd go with the mappit a4f or the like: http://www.silentpcreview.com/files/images/mappit/frontangle2.jpg |
| 02:09.50 | glm2k | mikefoo: if their website scares you don't ever get in the way of jerjer >:) |
| 02:10.00 | mikefoo | hahah |
| 02:10.50 | glm2k | to put it nicely, he has a way with words, but he gets straight to the point |
| 02:11.12 | mikefoo | yeah I hear that.. |
| 02:11.27 | mikefoo | glm2k: what type of services are you offering? if I may ask. |
| 02:11.38 | glm2k | prepaid |
| 02:11.50 | mikefoo | calling cards? |
| 02:12.03 | glm2k | yes and no |
| 02:12.07 | mikefoo | heh.. |
| 02:12.24 | glm2k | some people can register for a prepaid account and i have a monthly system in the works |
| 02:12.25 | _Sam-- | prepaid phone sex cards? |
| 02:12.28 | glm2k | lol |
| 02:12.49 | _Sam-- | that is actually not a bad idea! :) |
| 02:12.53 | mikefoo | hahah |
| 02:12.54 | _Sam-- | does anyone sell them? :) |
| 02:13.08 | glm2k | i will not say it is a bad idea |
| 02:13.19 | _Sam-- | that way you dont have to worry about it showing up your CC statement / phone bill |
| 02:14.00 | _Sam-- | geeks like you guys would never be able to pull it off....since you need more than asterisk..you need the phone sex part :) |
| 02:14.11 | mikefoo | just go to the local strip joint and tell your wife you caught a flat tire on way home from the grocery store |
| 02:14.29 | Ahrimanes | asterisk+sip video+phone sex ? |
| 02:14.43 | _Sam-- | now you're talking |
| 02:14.53 | _Sam-- | soon it will be the norm i guess |
| 02:15.52 | Ahrimanes | we're doing some work on video in * :) |
| 02:16.06 | _Sam-- | what client do you use for video? |
| 02:16.22 | glm2k | _Sam--: hey! i'm not a geek! i have biceps! |
| 02:16.25 | glm2k | >:) |
| 02:16.42 | _Sam-- | heh, thats more than i can say about mine at the moment :) |
| 02:16.50 | Ahrimanes | _Sam--: our own softphone, xten eyebeam, wooksung w2100 hardphone and testing more hardphones |
| 02:17.00 | Ahrimanes | i have.. arms? |
| 02:17.28 | glm2k | _Sam--: but yeah, the phone sex part...hmmm, bunos points for anyone living in the valley >:) porn capital of the USA |
| 02:18.32 | [av]bani | Ahrimanes: what hardphones do you have? |
| 02:18.47 | _Sam-- | that is the beauty of *...you dont have to be in valley for them to connect to your * and be phone sex0rs |
| 02:19.03 | Ahrimanes | [av]bani: some leadteks, innomedia 5410, grandstreams new videophone on the way, maybe motorola's ojo soon |
| 02:19.05 | mikefoo | haaah |
| 02:20.03 | glm2k | _Sam--: lol. true |
| 02:20.09 | [av]bani | Ahrimanes: i'd be interested in hearing your results with the gxv-3000 |
| 02:20.26 | Ahrimanes | [av]bani: sure, ask me sometime late next week |
| 02:20.34 | _Sam-- | how much bandwidth does a decent video session take on SIP? |
| 02:20.39 | Ahrimanes | [av]bani: we should receive samples tuesday or so |
| 02:20.49 | mikefoo | glm2k: you using any pri/t1s or just a big pipe? |
| 02:20.53 | Ahrimanes | _Sam--: we settle for 256/256 kbit |
| 02:21.05 | [av]bani | Ahrimanes: all videophones? |
| 02:21.12 | _Sam-- | [av]bani how come the german guys always get the GS crap first? :) |
| 02:21.12 | Ahrimanes | _Sam--: 128 can be usable.. but 256 is nicer |
| 02:21.15 | Ahrimanes | [av]bani: huh? |
| 02:21.22 | glm2k | mikefoo: just a big pipe |
| 02:21.22 | Ahrimanes | _Sam--: i'm danish ;) |
| 02:21.26 | [av]bani | Ahrimanes: do you have any non video phones |
| 02:21.28 | _Sam-- | Ahrimanes : @ 256, how many FPS is that? like 4-5? |
| 02:21.40 | [av]bani | _Sam--: 30fps @ 16x16 |
| 02:21.42 | [av]bani | :) |
| 02:21.57 | Ahrimanes | [av]bani: yeah we use snom190's right now, but looking for others |
| 02:22.01 | glm2k | [av]bani: nice, that's really good |
| 02:22.01 | mikefoo | glm2k: cool I am going that route also within the next week or so, do you ever have a quality issue that you can tell? |
| 02:22.15 | Ahrimanes | _Sam--: hm typically i guess it's ~15 fps at cif resolution |
| 02:22.36 | [av]bani | Ahrimanes: wonder if the snom 190 user interface is as horrible as the snom 360 |
| 02:22.44 | Fedoracore6 | hai all |
| 02:22.50 | Fedoracore6 | just wanna ask some thing |
| 02:22.51 | Fedoracore6 | [demo] |
| 02:22.51 | Fedoracore6 | exten => 40,1,Answer |
| 02:22.52 | Fedoracore6 | exten => 40,2,SetMusicOnHold(default) |
| 02:22.52 | Fedoracore6 | exten => 40,3,DigitTimeout,5 |
| 02:22.52 | Fedoracore6 | exten => 40,4,ResponseTimeout,10 |
| 02:22.53 | Fedoracore6 | exten => 40,5,Background(greeting) |
| 02:22.59 | Ahrimanes | [av]bani: pretty much, but no matter now, far as i can tell snom dropped the 190 |
| 02:23.00 | glm2k | mikefoo: ISP aside, a rare one with nufone, and i can count the downtimes for the others on my fingers |
| 02:23.15 | Fedoracore6 | in this sip.conf why i oress 40 |
| 02:23.23 | Ahrimanes | Fedoracore6: please use http://pastebin.com or the like |
| 02:23.28 | Fedoracore6 | *press 40 .. the musicon hold |
| 02:23.52 | mikefoo | glm2k: ahh ok doesn't sound too bad, but you have 5-6 carriers so you clients shouldn't see any "downtime" |
| 02:24.14 | glm2k | mikefoo: exactly |
| 02:24.25 | Fedoracore6 | didint .. have any sound ..quite all ready |
| 02:25.02 | mikefoo | does these carriers basically buy in bulk and resell, like commit to million minutes and level3 then resell.. |
| 02:25.18 | [av]bani | Ahrimanes: whats with all the videophones? |
| 02:25.27 | Ahrimanes | [av]bani: deaf people... |
| 02:25.33 | [av]bani | ah.. sign language |
| 02:25.48 | [av]bani | whatever happened to modems for that? |
| 02:25.59 | Ahrimanes | modems? |
| 02:26.03 | [av]bani | irc :) etc |
| 02:26.19 | [av]bani | videophone seems a bit overkill |
| 02:26.22 | glm2k | mikefoo: i'm not the person to ask sorry |
| 02:26.26 | *** join/#asterisk bintut (n=bintut@202.128.40.243) |
| 02:26.36 | mikefoo | yah, was just curious.. |
| 02:26.45 | Ahrimanes | [av]bani: hehe, well deaf people here love the videophones |
| 02:26.52 | glm2k | bintut: kumusta na bai? long time no see :) |
| 02:27.14 | bintut | glm2k: bai! long time na! :) |
| 02:27.19 | bintut | glm2k: where are you now? |
| 02:27.25 | glm2k | cali |
| 02:27.31 | bintut | glm2k: we at plug are doing good na |
| 02:27.38 | *** join/#asterisk HamYaI (i=HamYai@125.24.6.174) |
| 02:27.46 | glm2k | i've been reading up on stuff at the website ;) |
| 02:27.47 | Fedoracore6 | http://pastebin.com/560576 |
| 02:28.04 | glm2k | looks like dom will be at the dgte expo |
| 02:28.13 | bintut | glm2k: we're preparing for the conference that we will be organizing.. RMS will be one of our guests of honor |
| 02:28.19 | glm2k | nice |
| 02:28.24 | bintut | glm2k: yeah |
| 02:28.39 | mikefoo | company I work for does all the terminating on cisco gateways themselves, then they PSTN it over to carriers.. |
| 02:28.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Fedoracore6 : That menu won't get you very far... at the end of 40,5 it'll just HANG UP. |
| 02:29.10 | _Sam-- | hey [av]bani : can you think of anyway using an agi that you could set the BLFs on the GXP to indicate calls in a queue? |
| 02:29.17 | mikefoo | but we are going to talk IP with level3 soon, so we wont need 30K cisco gateways to to terminate, hah |
| 02:29.25 | bintut | glm2k: i joined in this channel because i'm thinking if it's possible that i can invite mark spencer to come on our conference.. :) |
| 02:29.39 | _Sam-- | <or any other way for that matter> |
| 02:29.59 | xachen | Feb 17 21:29:49 NOTICE[4745]: chan_sip.c:10294 handle_request_invite: Failed to authenticate user "Justin Cassidy" <sip:5000002@204.11.35.207>;tag=as08c73c48 |
| 02:30.02 | glm2k | bintut: you could write to him. his email should be either on the gaim website or digium's |
| 02:30.04 | tengulre11 | Hi,all |
| 02:30.09 | xachen | Why is it doing that? The rest of my extensions work. |
| 02:30.18 | bintut | glm2k: yeah |
| 02:30.27 | [TK]D-Fender | _Sam-- : Write a script that runs on a schedule grabbing the queue state and then runs "devstate" from BRISTUFF to set an indicator high/low |
| 02:30.28 | xachen | 5000002 is the softphone I'm using to call. 5000001 is the client I'm trying to call |
| 02:30.32 | tengulre11 | I want to building a PcToPhone system, anybody can give me some ideas? |
| 02:30.53 | glm2k | tengulre11: there are close to a hundred of those applications |
| 02:31.18 | tengulre11 | glm2k: ? |
| 02:31.19 | _Sam-- | checking the bristuffdevstate...thankes for the idea |
| 02:31.47 | bintut | glm2k: check out http://www.linuxasia.net/ it was the conference held at india.. it was a successful one |
| 02:31.50 | mikefoo | anyone know where I might go to get acess to npa/nxx data, need to lookup what numbers are going to which carriers |
| 02:32.02 | mikefoo | well pay for it ofcourse.. |
| 02:32.45 | Fedoracore6 | exten => 40,5,Hangup --->> [tk]D-Fender |
| 02:32.48 | glm2k | mikefoo: i think trixter has a good db |
| 02:32.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Fedoracore6 : Only "s" lets you continue to listen to DTMF if it ends.... |
| 02:32.53 | glm2k | mikefoo: gimem a sec |
| 02:33.47 | glm2k | mikefoo: http://www.0xdecafbad.com/Global-Numbering-Plan.html |
| 02:35.08 | mikefoo | cool, thanks! |
| 02:35.15 | glm2k | np |
| 02:36.10 | Fedoracore6 | [tk]D-Fender thnk you a lot .. i really newbie here so if i worong .. ask me :D |
| 02:36.18 | [TK]D-Fender | God I love that domain.... |
| 02:36.53 | glm2k | bintut: that's a very successful conference alright |
| 02:36.58 | glm2k | [TK]D-Fender: lol. yep |
| 02:37.09 | tronix | Ahrimanes: (re: deaf people loving videophones) that's *very* true! lots of deaf folks in the community has picked up on them, and even some relay services has, too. |
| 02:37.14 | glm2k | and there i thought people have forgotten how to think in hex |
| 02:37.34 | bintut | glm2k: i can't find mark's email. :( |
| 02:37.41 | Ahrimanes | tronix: yeah, we're doing remote translation between deaf and hearing over videophones |
| 02:37.42 | tronix | 0xdeadbeef is my favorite hex number :-) |
| 02:37.51 | Ahrimanes | hehe |
| 02:37.54 | glm2k | hehe |
| 02:37.55 | mikefoo | glm2k: cool that works somewhat, but I basically need lnp database info, to look up real time where numbers are going to what carrier in a case of cell phone. |
| 02:38.03 | tronix | Ahrimanes: ahh! very nice. |
| 02:38.09 | Ahrimanes | "Cows would survive so much longer, if they weren't made up of beef and leather" |
| 02:38.24 | glm2k | mikefoo: hmmm, now where did i read up on a link that allowed you to check that? drat. |
| 02:38.35 | mikefoo | heh.. |
| 02:38.39 | Ahrimanes | tronix: yeah, basically cutting translation booking times from about two weeks to a matter of minutes |
| 02:39.33 | glm2k | bintut: gimme a sec |
| 02:41.54 | Fedoracore6 | [tk]D-Fender can i do the check passwod .. |
| 02:42.19 | glm2k | bintut: at the bottom of this page: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/contactinfo.php and http://www.asterisk.org/about |
| 02:42.20 | Fedoracore6 | mean when student call .. the systen\m ivr wanna the student enter the password |
| 02:42.54 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: you might wanna look at the following apps Authenticate and DISA |
| 02:43.12 | *** join/#asterisk Egonis (n=chultay@CPE000255fa0fde-CM00407b87dc7b.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:43.18 | *** part/#asterisk Egonis (n=chultay@CPE000255fa0fde-CM00407b87dc7b.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:43.31 | bintut | glm2k: got it. thanks.. :) |
| 02:43.36 | glm2k | anytime |
| 02:44.53 | _Sam-- | [TK]D-Fender : to make the bristuff , i just need the patch.asterisk? |
| 02:44.59 | _Sam-- | or asterisk.patch i mean |
| 02:46.07 | Fedoracore6 | so glmk2 the basic ... system touch tone i must read the Authenticate and DISA first hemm what about .. the data base its using the msyld right |
| 02:46.17 | [TK]D-Fender | _Sam-- : No idea.. never tried it myself :) |
| 02:47.51 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: what database? the database of passwords to DISA? it's just a flat file. |
| 02:48.02 | glm2k | at least that's what i remember |
| 02:50.11 | *** join/#asterisk Egonis (n=chultay@CPE000255fa0fde-CM00407b87dc7b.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:50.14 | Egonis | I'm modprobing a certain device (wanpipe, in this case) dmesg shows that it loaded perfectly, but it doesn't auto-create the device nodes... how do I set this? I'm using kernel 2.6.15 w/ udev, coldplug, and hotplug |
| 02:50.20 | Fedoracore6 | data base student ---> in data base i have 1000 student .. stedent must enter the social security number beforme enter the subject |
| 02:50.38 | Fedoracore6 | i this term |
| 02:50.43 | Egonis | mknod? but how do I find out the major and minor of wan_aften |
| 02:50.59 | Ahrimanes | wan_aften ? |
| 02:51.07 | Egonis | Ahrimanes: Sangoma card module |
| 02:51.10 | Ahrimanes | ah ok |
| 02:51.16 | Egonis | yeeeah |
| 02:51.17 | Ahrimanes | aften means evening in danish, hehe |
| 02:51.25 | Egonis | my first attempt at hw for asterisk |
| 02:51.34 | Egonis | lol |
| 02:52.20 | sivana | Egonis: what does "wanrouter start" give you? |
| 02:53.20 | Egonis | driver load failed, and a series of errors, but more importantly, dmesg shows that the driver cries about firmware being too old, so I try to run the firmware update utility, but it can't find /dev/wp1aft1 |
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| 02:53.48 | Fedoracore6 | any idea |
| 02:53.59 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: hmmm. maybe you're better off with a database. and use an AGI script |
| 02:54.42 | Egonis | although the wan_aften module is successfully loaded, showing in dmesg,e tc. |
| 02:54.43 | Fedoracore6 | using php-agi script |
| 02:56.12 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: well then you won't have a problem. what's your original question again? |
| 02:57.53 | Fedoracore6 | now firstly i doing the touch tones registration system .. to my college |
| 02:58.00 | glm2k | ok and? |
| 02:58.19 | Fedoracore6 | i dont have any basic in asterisk this first time i do |
| 02:58.23 | Fedoracore6 | and |
| 02:58.34 | Fedoracore6 | i must do right this .. |
| 02:58.44 | glm2k | well, you need a little practice then |
| 02:58.59 | Fedoracore6 | first student call the extensions 100 |
| 02:59.06 | Fedoracore6 | or 110 |
| 02:59.06 | glm2k | ok |
| 02:59.34 | Fedoracore6 | so the system automatic hang up then say |
| 02:59.42 | xachen | what does the auth flag do in iax.conf? |
| 03:00.06 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: not hangup, you mean answer right? |
| 03:00.15 | *** join/#asterisk danalien (n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien) |
| 03:00.51 | Fedoracore6 | answer " welcome to our collage touch tones registartion system plase enter yoursecurity number" |
| 03:01.04 | Fedoracore6 | yer opss sorry my english not good |
| 03:01.12 | glm2k | no problem. go ahead |
| 03:01.54 | Fedoracore6 | i do are practice in sip.conf and extensions ... like this |
| 03:02.47 | [TK]D-Fender | Egonis : careful there is a bug in the firware update program. You'll realize it adds an "s" to the filename that you'll have to compensate for. |
| 03:02.58 | [TK]D-Fender | pay close attention... |
| 03:03.08 | Egonis | [TK]D-Fender: i.e. the firmware file itself? |
| 03:03.17 | Fedoracore6 | http://pastebin.com/560603 |
| 03:03.24 | Egonis | [TK]D-Fender: I can't even get it to find the /dev node |
| 03:03.55 | *** join/#asterisk iq (n=iq@71-214-6-43.omah.qwest.net) |
| 03:04.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Egonis : its a bug in the .sh script thaqt does the update... |
| 03:04.24 | Fedoracore6 | http://pastebin.com/560604 sip.conf |
| 03:04.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Egonis : you've got wanpipe installed already and the modules loaded? |
| 03:04.44 | Egonis | [TK]D-Fender: how do I create the device node for wp1aft1? |
| 03:04.59 | Egonis | [TK]D-Fender: I already modprobed wan_aften, and it loads successfully |
| 03:05.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Egonis : should be there if you did the base wanpipe install... |
| 03:05.03 | Fedoracore6 | i try follow the VoIP Telephony with Asterisk second edition |
| 03:05.14 | [TK]D-Fender | shouldn't have to even modprobe it.... |
| 03:05.14 | Egonis | [TK]D-Fender: fudge |
| 03:05.23 | Fedoracore6 | but i must have techer to teach because i work alone |
| 03:05.27 | Egonis | [TK]D-Fender: Sangoma won't call me back... dammit |
| 03:06.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Egonis : PM |
| 03:06.48 | Egonis | True... |
| 03:06.50 | sivana | Egonis: hehe... only cuz you called at 4pm Friday :) |
| 03:06.52 | Fedoracore6 | so if u se the extensions and sip.conf what should i do |
| 03:06.53 | Egonis | I'm behind a firewall btw |
| 03:07.00 | Egonis | sivana: I still hate then |
| 03:07.01 | Fedoracore6 | what the way |
| 03:07.09 | Egonis | sivana: I think they should bow to my omnipitence |
| 03:07.12 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: play with WaitExten :) http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+WaitExten |
| 03:07.25 | Egonis | :) |
| 03:07.42 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: then once you have the SS number, pass it on to your phpagi script |
| 03:08.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Egonis : if the sstem is accessable to the outside I'm offering to take alook at getting itup and running for you. |
| 03:08.28 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: and from there you have a lot of options when processing the number and interacting with a database. |
| 03:08.42 | sivana | hehe |
| 03:09.20 | Egonis | should I build for vanilla sources, just for kicks? |
| 03:09.26 | [TK]D-Fender | definately |
| 03:09.42 | Egonis | [TK]D-Fender: i'm behing a soup of servers... so it wouldn't be easy |
| 03:09.57 | Egonis | [TK]D-Fender: I will try that first, ty! |
| 03:10.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Chicken Noodle, or Cream of Broccoli? |
| 03:10.32 | glm2k | ooh, cream of corn! |
| 03:10.53 | Egonis | sivana: I don't have HW Echo cancellation, do I need TDMV DCHAN Native HDLC Support? |
| 03:11.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Yes |
| 03:11.12 | Egonis | k |
| 03:11.18 | [TK]D-Fender | you want that done on the card itself, not adding load to * |
| 03:11.35 | Egonis | Should I have the REGPARM enabled in my kernel? |
| 03:11.52 | sivana | [TK]D-Fender: I'm not sure... he's using FXO/FXS cards |
| 03:12.06 | Fedoracore6 | glm2k: thank allot hem.. so i must using the data base right like msql |
| 03:12.15 | sivana | Egonis: A200 right? |
| 03:12.22 | Egonis | sivana: Yup! |
| 03:12.32 | sivana | yea, i don't think it supports HDLC |
| 03:12.36 | Egonis | Two FXO Cards |
| 03:12.44 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: yep, any database you are familiar with |
| 03:12.58 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: and that * supports of course |
| 03:13.32 | Fedoracore6 | glm2k: hemm.... where i can download the data base .. because i try install add-onn 1.2.1 |
| 03:13.41 | Fedoracore6 | the fail cannot work |
| 03:13.59 | Fedoracore6 | any web site i can download ... |
| 03:14.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Wait... not sure about A200.... I only glanced at that chapter.. |
| 03:14.31 | sivana | Egonis: what does this give you? "wanrouter hwprobe" |
| 03:15.09 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: you should have support in * |
| 03:15.44 | Egonis | 1. AFT-200-SH : SLOT=6 : BUS=1 : IRQ=233 : CPU=A : PORT=PRI : HWEC=0 |
| 03:16.05 | sivana | seems like it found it |
| 03:16.07 | Fedoracore6 | glam2k: what you mean .. support * ? |
| 03:16.41 | Egonis | sivana: yup! :) |
| 03:16.51 | buZz | * = asterisk |
| 03:16.52 | Egonis | sivana: it's the fscking devnodes that I can't get to link |
| 03:17.04 | sivana | Egonis: I've never installed the A200, you can try googling |
| 03:17.06 | Fedoracore6 | ;D oic |
| 03:17.14 | Egonis | sivana: Oh, trust me.. tried that |
| 03:17.21 | Fedoracore6 | sorry i didint no that *= asterisk |
| 03:17.27 | Fedoracore6 | eehe...... |
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| 03:17.35 | sivana | Egonis: I would suspect you do the "./Setup install", then make/install zaptel |
| 03:17.42 | sivana | then run "wancfg" |
| 03:18.13 | sivana | to upgrade the firmware, you need to go to /usr/src/wanpipe/utils/aftup ? |
| 03:18.21 | Fedoracore6 | so know i must find the data base first hemm i think mysql the right way |
| 03:18.26 | Egonis | sivana: will try that... however, the aftup util can't find the devnode for the device |
| 03:18.39 | Egonis | sivana: although the wan_aften module is loaded successfully |
| 03:18.50 | Davey | argh, anyone know Brian Fertigs nick? :) |
| 03:18.55 | Fedoracore6 | but whare i can find and download teh database .. bacause i tri in addonn |
| 03:19.04 | Fedoracore6 | hemm the addonn cannot run |
| 03:19.24 | sivana | http://sangoma.editme.com/sangoma-hardware#firmware |
| 03:19.34 | sivana | Start update program |
| 03:19.35 | sivana | ./update_aft_firm.sh |
| 03:19.53 | [TK]D-Fender | Egonis : Did you do the wanpipe install first/ |
| 03:20.07 | Egonis | [TK]D-Fender: yes |
| 03:20.09 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: is mysql installed on your machine? |
| 03:20.54 | Egonis | sivana: it says 'no such device' /dev/wp1aft1 when I try to do that |
| 03:20.59 | Fedoracore6 | i go to my open terminal i type service mysqld status |
| 03:21.11 | Fedoracore6 | but the system say didint have |
| 03:21.21 | sivana | Egonis: you need to unload the modules |
| 03:21.22 | Egonis | sivana: although wp1aft1 is clearly shown in dmesg upon loading wan_aften |
| 03:21.34 | Egonis | sivana: yes, those modules are all unloaded, but the wan_aften module is used to flash |
| 03:21.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Egonis : That doesn't look like the right name..... |
| 03:22.02 | Fedoracore6 | glm2k: i think no ..dont have mysql in my machine ... |
| 03:22.12 | glm2k | install it first :) |
| 03:22.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Egonis : I don't have one named like that on my server.... |
| 03:22.19 | Egonis | [TK]D-Fender: interesting |
| 03:22.28 | Egonis | that's what it loads when I run the firmware update script |
| 03:22.32 | sivana | Egonis: step by step here: http://sangoma.editme.com/sangoma-hardware#firmware |
| 03:22.40 | Egonis | sivana: did that |
| 03:23.07 | sivana | then see previous recommendation -> wait for sangoma support :) |
| 03:23.24 | sivana | too bad it's friday |
| 03:23.40 | sivana | although, they could very well be working tomorrow |
| 03:24.00 | Fedoracore6 | glm2k: where website i can find teh mysql and install |
| 03:24.20 | Egonis | sivana: Goddamn |
| 03:24.31 | Egonis | sivana: Possible, I guess it's time for bed then... :( |
| 03:24.38 | Egonis | [TK]D-Fender, sivana: Thank you both |
| 03:24.55 | Egonis | [TK]D-Fender, sivana: I think at this point it's either a) Sangoma's problem or b) a problem with my install of linux and udev |
| 03:25.00 | sivana | np.. sorry I don't know more.. I know how it feels when you get a new toy :) |
| 03:25.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Egonis : If you find a way through your soup lte me know :) |
| 03:25.17 | [av]bani | <o/ |
| 03:26.10 | Egonis | [TK]D-Fender: At this point, I want to write a Wiki! :) |
| 03:26.25 | *** join/#asterisk PaulHuynh (n=paulhuyn@12.183.74.66) |
| 03:26.33 | Egonis | sivana: yeeah... especially when under the clock |
| 03:26.40 | Egonis | sivana: this is for production, actually |
| 03:26.43 | PaulHuynh | hey |
| 03:27.03 | PaulHuynh | i'm running asterisk@home 2.4 with asterisk 1.2.1 |
| 03:27.39 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: shouldn't fedora have it on the install cd's? |
| 03:27.40 | PaulHuynh | i want to upgrade to the latest but i'm worried it will get broke |
| 03:28.37 | glm2k | PaulHuynh: may i repeat the saying: "if it ain't broke don't fix it" ? |
| 03:29.47 | [TK]D-Fender | And may I repeat... |
| 03:29.48 | [TK]D-Fender | ~amp |
| 03:29.50 | jbot | amp is, like, NOT supported here! people using it should join #amportal |
| 03:30.24 | Ariel_ | PaulHuynh, you can upgrade I would download the tar file which aah creates for you as a backup that way you can restore your settings if you run into problems |
| 03:30.49 | *** join/#asterisk xyklopz (n=xyklopx@216-91-89-21.biltmorecomm.com) |
| 03:31.06 | PaulHuynh | ariel what tar file? |
| 03:31.54 | xyklopz | hey guys, anyone had experience with sipphone.com? |
| 03:32.15 | Flauto | xy, i use it |
| 03:32.35 | xyklopz | Flauto, I have a virtual # |
| 03:32.51 | xyklopz | and I can't quite get incoming working ... local (exten2exten) works fine |
| 03:33.16 | xyklopz | i want all local to go direct and everything else up the sipphone trunk |
| 03:33.41 | xyklopz | and then incoming via the virtual # is routed (c/o sipphone) to my * peer |
| 03:33.50 | Ariel_ | PaulHuynh, in the maintance section of the web gui there is a section called backup you can click on the link and save it to another system. |
| 03:34.16 | Ariel_ | [TK]D-Fender, amp is just a gui for asterisk and there is no reason that people can't get help with there asterisk setups here. |
| 03:34.34 | PaulHuynh | oh ok |
| 03:34.58 | *** part/#asterisk Primer (n=vi@sh.nu) |
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| 03:37.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Ariel_ : Probelm being opretty much every attempt to "patch" AMP just gets wiped with the next commit... |
| 03:38.36 | Ariel_ | [TK]D-Fender, no it does not |
| 03:39.23 | Ariel_ | [TK]D-Fender, I have been working with asterisk for over 3 years now. Amp is a way for people to get started. But there are ways to do setups with it and it's really just asterisk on it's backend that works just like any other setup. |
| 03:40.22 | MoutaPT | Hi all, I'm going to buy E1 digium110P ,any one knows how i can get faxtomail working for three different channels? I mean channel1-->FaxtoMAil1@XXX.com channel2-->FaxtoMail2@xxx.com??for 1 channel is not dificult with*@home and NVfaxdetect |
| 03:41.02 | *** join/#asterisk brockj49464 (n=brockj49@63.87.56.235) |
| 03:42.49 | MoutaPT | Using *@home 2.5 faxToPDFmail works, but i always get error opening pdf in outlook |
| 03:43.44 | MoutaPT | i've solved this with a mimeconstruct update explained on wiki for *@home 1.5, does any one knows why on*@home 2.5 the problem stills happening... |
| 03:43.55 | Fedoracore6 | glm2k: thank you u are so good i install already |
| 03:45.33 | MoutaPT | NO one has problems with FaxtoEmail on Asterisk@home 2.5 ??? |
| 03:49.00 | SpaceBass | MoutaPT, i dont know about 2.5 but I've had problems since 2.x...supposed it was related to 2.x in general and dring |
| 03:49.25 | MoutaPT | but this problem? |
| 03:49.32 | MoutaPT | opening the file on outlook? |
| 03:49.44 | SpaceBass | sorry..just checked my cache...didn't see the problem |
| 03:50.09 | MoutaPT | i handles the fax correctly but mail constrcut seems to be the problem |
| 03:50.17 | FuriousGeorge | there any way in dialplan logic i can look through my conference rooms and pick an empty one? |
| 03:50.22 | MoutaPT | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:50.22 | MoutaPT | <MoutaPT> i've solved this with a mimeconstruct update explained on wiki for *@home 1.5, does any one knows why on*@home 2.5 the problem stills happening... |
| 03:50.33 | FuriousGeorge | but i need to know in advanced which one it is so i can set the led |
| 03:51.09 | SpaceBass | MoutaPT, sounds like you are a step ahead of me...my PDFs open as empty file |
| 03:51.09 | SpaceBass | s |
| 03:51.25 | MoutaPT | did you check the tif file |
| 03:51.30 | MoutaPT | on spool? |
| 03:51.43 | MoutaPT | i got it working on *@home 1.5 |
| 03:51.45 | *** join/#asterisk Darwin35 (n=Darwin@c-24-9-75-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 03:51.52 | SpaceBass | on 2.1 i did...and was valid...gave up recently...admitted defeat...on 2.4 now |
| 03:52.05 | MoutaPT | but i've a new machine and *@2.5 |
| 03:52.07 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: huh? lol. no i'm not. just willign to help. |
| 03:52.19 | Ariel_ | 2.5 is out |
| 03:52.21 | MoutaPT | i thought this could be solved already on this version |
| 03:52.38 | SpaceBass | I LOVE A@H but man...no upgrade path...each release beaks something else...i dont know if I can afford to upgrade anymore |
| 03:52.40 | Ariel_ | and I used it the other day and it's fax is working fine. But I only have 2.5 on one system |
| 03:53.11 | MoutaPT | fax to mail Ariel_? |
| 03:53.21 | MoutaPT | did you open mail on thunderbird or outlook? |
| 03:53.46 | Ariel_ | outlook express |
| 03:53.51 | SpaceBass | i migrated from 1.9 (I think) to 2.x and it broke my zaptel (echo, revere, etc) my wife is about to kill me and I have a small fortune invested in hardware.... |
| 03:54.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Did you upgrade zaptel as well? |
| 03:54.19 | SpaceBass | MoutaPT, not sure its the software...I've tried several clients |
| 03:54.36 | MoutaPT | yes i've red on wiki |
| 03:54.42 | Fedoracore6 | glm2k: my sql alreaddy running but where u\i can put the data base |
| 03:54.52 | MoutaPT | original was made with mimeconstruct on thunderbird |
| 03:54.58 | SpaceBass | [TK]D-Fender, yeah...A@H compiles from (its source) scratch |
| 03:55.06 | MoutaPT | so on outlook small diferences... |
| 03:55.07 | [TK]D-Fender | ..... OH |
| 03:55.12 | [TK]D-Fender | nvm |
| 03:56.27 | MoutaPT | sorry my english not so good |
| 03:56.28 | SpaceBass | i think my POTS provider wasn't delivering constant dring...but even SIP calls came into the wrong context |
| 03:56.39 | MoutaPT | what u mean with dring? |
| 03:56.43 | MoutaPT | ring?:) |
| 03:57.15 | MoutaPT | Does any one knows on E1 card how can i get fax to email |
| 03:57.22 | MoutaPT | like chanel 1 to mail 1 |
| 03:57.23 | SpaceBass | alors, Je parle anglais mais apres 6 saporos et 2 le scotch mon anglais est merd aussi |
| 03:57.37 | MoutaPT | chanel2 to mail 2 |
| 03:57.39 | SpaceBass | dring = distinct ring |
| 03:57.45 | MoutaPT | THANKS!!! |
| 03:57.51 | MoutaPT | :) |
| 03:58.02 | justinu | lol, vous etes quebecqouis? |
| 03:58.03 | SpaceBass | pas de problem ;) |
| 03:58.23 | MoutaPT | i going to build asterisk on my company first as tester... |
| 03:58.30 | MoutaPT | for 200 people |
| 03:58.43 | SpaceBass | non....alors... en persone je parle bein mais ici...'forget about it' |
| 03:58.46 | MoutaPT | so i've more than 1 fax recepcionist girl:) |
| 03:59.15 | MoutaPT | can any one give me advice with this fax to mail? |
| 04:00.01 | SpaceBass | MoutaPT, I do not have advice...but I have had the same problem.... |
| 04:00.22 | MoutaPT | did u solve the problem? |
| 04:00.25 | SpaceBass | my PDF files are empty |
| 04:00.31 | SpaceBass | non |
| 04:00.46 | MoutaPT | did u check your tif files? |
| 04:00.53 | MoutaPT | did you make install-pdf? |
| 04:01.21 | SpaceBass | son triste, mais moi a stoppé |
| 04:01.41 | MoutaPT | ? |
| 04:01.47 | MoutaPT | do u speak portuguese? |
| 04:01.51 | SpaceBass | ou arrêté |
| 04:01.56 | SpaceBass | non...desole |
| 04:02.19 | SpaceBass | English and VERY BAD french |
| 04:02.38 | justinu | same here |
| 04:02.40 | SpaceBass | I have to run....but I DID check the TIF and it opened...but it was BLANK *empty* |
| 04:03.03 | SpaceBass | i never solved the problem with A@H...assumed it was my error (problem) |
| 04:03.25 | MoutaPT | ok |
| 04:03.39 | SpaceBass | a tout l'hour...night all...have to run |
| 04:03.48 | MoutaPT | any one here took Signate Asterisk course? |
| 04:05.20 | [TK]D-Fender | eh... va t'en deja! |
| 04:05.49 | justinu | bunghole |
| 04:05.53 | MoutaPT | <[TK]D-Fender> French? |
| 04:05.53 | kuku5 | MoutaPT: you don dedicate a channel to a fax, you dedicate did's to a fax |
| 04:06.14 | [TK]D-Fender | yup |
| 04:06.18 | *** part/#asterisk kc5cqm (n=kc5cqm_@cpe-68-206-116-214.stx.res.rr.com) |
| 04:06.22 | MoutaPT | really? in fact i'm been using only ast@home |
| 04:06.31 | MoutaPT | that's why not so Expert.... |
| 04:06.46 | MoutaPT | i've made their config with fax to mail |
| 04:07.02 | MoutaPT | so you mean i can reserv a specific DID |
| 04:07.07 | MoutaPT | for FAX to mail? |
| 04:07.33 | kuku5 | yeh |
| 04:07.34 | MoutaPT | so as long as I've DIDs i can handle fax for different mail accounts? |
| 04:07.37 | MoutaPT | :)?? |
| 04:07.50 | kuku5 | yes |
| 04:08.04 | MoutaPT | cooll , is duable from AMP?:) |
| 04:08.15 | MoutaPT | <[TK]D-Fender> did u took signate course? |
| 04:08.28 | kuku5 | I dont know |
| 04:08.30 | kuku5 | I dont uyse amp |
| 04:08.39 | MoutaPT | you r right:) |
| 04:09.01 | MoutaPT | but do i need to run nvfaxdetect? |
| 04:09.14 | MoutaPT | or i could simple config that DID for FAx? |
| 04:09.44 | Fedoracore6 | how asterisk coneted in data base(mysql) |
| 04:10.01 | Fedoracore6 | its have commnad to connected in data base |
| 04:11.43 | Mavvie | bluebox*CLI> zap show channel 156 |
| 04:11.43 | Mavvie | [...] |
| 04:11.44 | Mavvie | Caller ID: 0412548950 |
| 04:11.59 | Mavvie | wonder why the caller id doesn't get cleared there, the channel is not in use. |
| 04:15.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Signate course? |
| 04:15.09 | [TK]D-Fender | ...huh? |
| 04:20.34 | MoutaPT | forget... |
| 04:25.16 | MoutaPT | bye all |
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| 04:25.52 | SplasPood | Is there any way to get sip debug peer <blah> output to a file? |
| 04:26.22 | Mavvie | no, but if you use script(1) you can capture it |
| 04:31.25 | SplasPood | gotcha |
| 04:31.46 | SplasPood | is there some secret incantation anyone knows for sipphone to get outbound working? I keep getting a 400 Bad Request back from them |
| 04:33.11 | justinu | that sounds like a malformed sip message or something |
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| 04:34.58 | jaike | anyone know any US sip/iax providers doing flat rates around 1c/min for outbound calls? |
| 04:36.00 | Mavvie | hmm... what is the trick of running asterisk is gdb? |
| 04:36.04 | Mavvie | ~gdb |
| 04:36.05 | jbot | i heard gdb is The GNU Debugger. URL: http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/ or http://sources.redhat.com/gdb/ |
| 04:36.48 | *** join/#asterisk NewSole (n=dave@d226-105-29.home.cgocable.net) |
| 04:37.06 | justinu | mavvie: you gotta turn off optimizations |
| 04:37.20 | justinu | take -O3 out of the CCFLAGS |
| 04:37.48 | Mavvie | it's -O6 here, but it's removed. |
| 04:38.01 | Mavvie | let's rebuild everything :-) |
| 04:39.28 | justinu | then make sure -g3 is set |
| 04:39.31 | justinu | at least -g |
| 04:39.50 | Mavvie | -g3 is set |
| 04:41.37 | justinu | make sure -fomit-frame-pointer isn't set |
| 04:41.41 | justinu | or whatever that flag is |
| 04:42.17 | jaike | any voxee customers here? |
| 04:42.21 | Mavvie | oh... rebuild :-) |
| 04:42.55 | SplasPood | justinu: oddly when I send the # to sipphone /wo the 1 it rings, but never actually rings the remote phone... with the one, bam that msg |
| 04:43.36 | justinu | say what? |
| 04:43.56 | justinu | oh |
| 04:44.15 | justinu | when you send it without the 1, do you get a 180 ringing in reply? |
| 04:47.34 | *** join/#asterisk f7950qs0 (n=redhotte@61.17.213.99) |
| 04:49.25 | f7950qs0 | hi all |
| 04:51.46 | f7950qs0 | everybody is asleep i better come back in office hours |
| 04:51.58 | Qwell | plenty of people here |
| 04:52.07 | Qwell | helps if you ask a question though |
| 04:52.12 | f7950qs0 | oh ok. qwell |
| 04:52.37 | f7950qs0 | I need G729 and G723 for my a@h i configured |
| 04:52.46 | justinu | you need to buy that from digium |
| 04:52.47 | Qwell | g723 isn't gonna happen (legally) |
| 04:52.53 | Qwell | g729 you need to buy licenses from Digium |
| 04:53.03 | justinu | digium can't sell 723? |
| 04:53.09 | Qwell | no |
| 04:53.18 | justinu | why is that? |
| 04:53.19 | Qwell | draconian restrictions |
| 04:53.20 | f7950qs0 | ow much does G729 cost if I can ask |
| 04:53.27 | Qwell | f7950qs0: $10 per channel |
| 04:53.30 | Qwell | relatively cheap |
| 04:53.41 | justinu | hmm... i sampled g723 and it does a better job with music/tones than g729 |
| 04:53.49 | f7950qs0 | channel meaning installation or per trunk that i use |
| 04:54.06 | f7950qs0 | there's no open source for the codecs ? !! |
| 04:54.11 | justinu | not those |
| 04:54.19 | justinu | you can download the intel sample code |
| 04:54.21 | Qwell | They are heavily patent encumbered |
| 04:54.24 | justinu | if you agree to their license |
| 04:54.31 | Qwell | You can use them...but you'll get thrown in jail if you do :P |
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| 04:54.37 | justinu | but i still think you need to pay royalties to someone |
| 04:54.37 | Qwell | (slightly exagerated) |
| 04:55.17 | justinu | channel meaning per active line |
| 04:56.36 | f7950qs0 | I havent ever been to the indian jail and I dont think i wanna go to a US jail !! |
| 04:56.50 | justinu | are you in india? |
| 04:57.07 | f7950qs0 | yes |
| 04:57.13 | justinu | you probably will be exempt from the laws that control this stuff, so go ahead |
| 04:57.15 | Qwell | it's an algo patent |
| 04:57.22 | Qwell | so...not likely |
| 04:57.27 | justinu | qwell: are you a lawyer? |
| 04:57.35 | Qwell | no, but algo patents are valid in other countries |
| 04:57.40 | NovceGuru | Hello, i'm trying to have clients outside my network connect to my * server. It is behind a m0n0wall firewall/nat, The outside clients can register with * but no sound is transfered...in both directions afaik (i know back to the outside clients for sure) I have read some articles and tried various nat= externip= things, but with nat=yes outside clients cannot connect at all, any ideas? |
| 04:58.16 | Mavvie | NovceGuru: tcpdump. |
| 04:58.21 | f7950qs0 | but I pay my VoIP providers through a US debit card (my wife is a us citizen) |
| 04:58.35 | justinu | if it's so illegal to use, why does intel give it out? |
| 04:58.44 | Qwell | justinu: heh, that's tricky |
| 04:58.47 | justinu | aren't they somehow liable for making it available? |
| 04:59.09 | Qwell | justinu: it's kinda similar to DVD Jon |
| 04:59.17 | justinu | hmm |
| 04:59.26 | Qwell | I assume |
| 04:59.26 | Qwell | :p |
| 05:00.15 | Qwell | You know... |
| 05:00.23 | Qwell | You'd think that after moving 5gb off of one drive... |
| 05:00.28 | Qwell | you'd have more than 1.3gb free |
| 05:03.25 | [TK]D-Fender | NovceGuru : pastebin your SIP.conf |
| 05:04.12 | f7950qs0 | anybody heard about voicetronix |
| 05:05.02 | f7950qs0 | if I configure my ITSP in asterisk in one of the trunks |
| 05:05.51 | f7950qs0 | and assign an extension to point to that trunk and configure an ATA with the extension I can make a call |
| 05:06.44 | f7950qs0 | but what if I want to configure the ITSP in the device and still use asterisk for the managibility of that ATA |
| 05:06.50 | f7950qs0 | or the local network of my ATAs |
| 05:07.02 | NovceGuru | [TK]D-Fender http://pastebin.com/560695 |
| 05:07.24 | NovceGuru | I hate asterisk and the sip protocol forcing me to deal with these nat issues...makes me feel like such a dumbass :P |
| 05:07.42 | [TK]D-Fender | NovceGuru : Ok, is your * behind a NAT? |
| 05:07.49 | NovceGuru | yeah |
| 05:08.02 | f7950qs0 | what I said doesn't make a sense does it? |
| 05:08.04 | *** join/#asterisk Vyeperman (n=Vye@ip68-8-174-154.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 05:08.48 | f7950qs0 | my device has G729 and G723 so I am just hoping if I can configure my VOIP provider there and then manage it through asterisk |
| 05:08.48 | [TK]D-Fender | Ok, you'll need a few things, first : Either EXTERNIP or EXTERNHOST+EXTERNREFRESH. Then a LOCALNET clause to identify your lan. Then you need to ensure that ports 5060, 10000-20000 UDP are forwarded to it. |
| 05:09.26 | NovceGuru | I did the externip and localnet and external clients still couldn't connect, let me try again, maybe I did something wrong |
| 05:09.51 | NovceGuru | i have a dynamic IP but it doesn't seem to change much so externip should work? |
| 05:10.05 | NovceGuru | O wait, you mean those items without nat=yes? |
| 05:10.32 | [TK]D-Fender | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.01 | [TK]D-Fender | If you can, sign up for a dynamic DNS service and set the hostname in "externhost" and set a refresh interval for it. |
| 05:11.17 | NovceGuru | doesn't matter where I stick those right, as long as its under [general] ? |
| 05:11.31 | [TK]D-Fender | yup |
| 05:11.47 | f7950qs0 | o.k. one simple question. since speex is an open source codec, if my voip provider uses G729 codec can I use speex on my end ? |
| 05:12.23 | justinu | no |
| 05:12.40 | justinu | you can't transcode anything to g729 without a license |
| 05:13.01 | tronix | has anybody seen any issues with spa-1001 passing caller id info to analog phones? worked ok with cisco ata-186 but not spa-1001 |
| 05:13.11 | tronix | trying to figure out if it's phone or spa-1001 at fault |
| 05:13.18 | tronix | spa-1001 web page does, however, show the CID info |
| 05:13.20 | justinu | no one mentiones it here |
| 05:13.24 | tronix | heh cool |
| 05:13.27 | tronix | must be the phone, then. |
| 05:13.37 | justinu | there's some tweakability in the spa for how it generates clid i think |
| 05:13.42 | f7950qs0 | and justinu what I said before about configuring my device directly with the voip and then use asterisk doesn't make sense right? |
| 05:13.42 | tronix | ahh hmm. |
| 05:13.53 | tronix | i'll poke some more at it, or maybe get a second analog phone to test with |
| 05:15.00 | justinu | f7950qs0: if your device supports g729, asterisk can act as a passthru |
| 05:15.28 | f7950qs0 | oh it can? wow great. so I still can use asterisk |
| 05:15.31 | justinu | but asterisk couldn't talk to the sip provider who speaks only g729 and play prompts |
| 05:15.34 | justinu | or voicemail, etc. |
| 05:15.45 | justinu | unless you recorded the prompts in g729 |
| 05:15.54 | f7950qs0 | I need asterisk for outgoing purposes only nothing is going to be coming in my line |
| 05:15.55 | justinu | which you'd need a 729 encoder |
| 05:16.09 | justinu | f7950qs0: what does your nick mean? |
| 05:16.11 | justinu | random? |
| 05:16.43 | f7950qs0 | that's a CIA code classified information !! no way you can decode it !! |
| 05:16.45 | f7950qs0 | just kidding |
| 05:17.12 | *** join/#asterisk mogorman (n=mogorman@user-24-236-84-48.knology.net) |
| 05:17.21 | f7950qs0 | i was tired of finding a name to register cause all the names were taken so i just picked this one |
| 05:17.25 | f7950qs0 | yup random |
| 05:19.04 | f7950qs0 | how does * work as a passthru i mean how do I configure it. |
| 05:19.11 | f7950qs0 | in the trunk settings |
| 05:20.01 | justinu | disallow=all |
| 05:20.04 | justinu | allow=g729 |
| 05:20.07 | justinu | i guess |
| 05:20.11 | justinu | theres nothing you really need to do |
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| 05:21.10 | f7950qs0 | in a@h the G729 is not configured by default |
| 05:21.43 | f7950qs0 | i mean installed |
| 05:21.48 | justinu | there's nothing to install |
| 05:21.58 | f7950qs0 | o.k. |
| 05:22.21 | *** join/#asterisk DrDeke (i=dekemar@deculator.engin.umich.edu) |
| 05:23.00 | DrDeke | Hey, do any of you know whether US ILECs/CLECs sell "fractional" voice PRI lines, and if so, what even the most basic price range might be? |
| 05:24.36 | justinu | yes |
| 05:24.39 | justinu | no idea on price |
| 05:24.46 | justinu | check the tariffs for your state |
| 05:25.00 | DrDeke | I was not aware that the prices were regulated; can you tell me where I can find this information? |
| 05:25.00 | justinu | they're only allowed to charge a fixed price |
| 05:25.11 | justinu | with your state's public utilities commision usually |
| 05:25.22 | justinu | or ministry of communications ;) |
| 05:25.24 | DrDeke | Hmm... So ILECs and CLECs must charge the same amount as each other? |
| 05:25.37 | justinu | no, i think clecs are tariffed seperatly |
| 05:25.45 | DrDeke | oh |
| 05:25.47 | DrDeke | Ok, I can buy that :) |
| 05:25.50 | justinu | it's fixed by the commission so they can compete |
| 05:25.58 | DrDeke | Interesting; I will try to hunt down the ILEC tariff sheet then |
| 05:26.06 | justinu | have fun |
| 05:26.11 | justinu | what state? |
| 05:26.12 | DrDeke | MI |
| 05:26.53 | tronix | justinu: looks like I had to *65 to explicitly turn on CID info passed to analog phone from the sipura |
| 05:26.57 | tronix | really weird default. |
| 05:27.11 | DrDeke | Not to bother you, but how few channels can one typically order? 4? 8? 12? |
| 05:27.20 | justinu | not sure |
| 05:27.34 | justinu | there's this thing called ISOC |
| 05:27.42 | justinu | err USOC |
| 05:27.44 | justinu | ~usoc |
| 05:27.53 | justinu | univeral service ordering code |
| 05:28.02 | DrDeke | hmm |
| 05:28.07 | tronix | DrDeke: there's a CLEC provider that hangs out here, nick is trixter, but looks like he isn't around at the moment |
| 05:28.10 | justinu | it's a code that allows you to order any tariff'ed service |
| 05:28.23 | justinu | all telcos have to sell it to yuou |
| 05:28.29 | *** join/#asterisk websae (i=icechat5@CPE-24-167-204-30.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 05:28.30 | justinu | they can't just say "no, we don't offer that" |
| 05:28.33 | DrDeke | oh, that's cool |
| 05:28.39 | justinu | and it has to be at the tariff'ed price |
| 05:29.28 | ManxPower | Universal Service Ordering Code. |
| 05:29.34 | DrDeke | There's unfortunately no way I'm going to be ordering one, at least not in the very near future, but it would be nice to find out some pricing for when the time comes. |
| 05:29.43 | ManxPower | The telco does not have to offer every USOC product. |
| 05:29.46 | DrDeke | I guess I'll just have to call the Telephone Company. It just always feels so intimidating :) |
| 05:30.09 | ManxPower | the other issue is, for example there's like 4 or 5 or more USOCs just order a PRI |
| 05:30.26 | websae | any DID providers here? |
| 05:30.35 | justinu | they just have to offer what's in the tariffs |
| 05:30.46 | justinu | is there a list of USOCs on the net? |
| 05:30.52 | *** join/#asterisk lalito (n=erg@201.154.202.128) |
| 05:30.52 | ManxPower | ILECs do, CLECs do not. |
| 05:31.12 | ManxPower | MANY CLECs don't offer residential service, for example |
| 05:31.22 | tronix | hmm I just power cycled my SPA-1001... it now reliably gives CID info. weird. must've been a burp, maybe analog phone was being silly or something. no biggie, works good now. |
| 05:32.42 | justinu | here's one for quest: |
| 05:32.43 | justinu | http://www.qwest.com/wholesale/usocfidfind/1,1465,usoc,00.html |
| 05:33.06 | websae | anyone know a good fxo gateway product? |
| 05:33.08 | tronix | DrDeke: you could look through stuff like Newton's telecom dictionary, and various telco FAQs (like comp.dcom.telecom) that mentions the special names for various telco features |
| 05:33.21 | tronix | DrDeke: should help make the experience less intimidating |
| 05:33.47 | tronix | DrDeke: you can go a long way with the telco people if you use the 'magic words' (the names they use for various features), too |
| 05:34.26 | tronix | I haven't looked at a recent edition of newton's telecom dictionary so I'm not sure how useful it will be today but it wasn't bad for the edition I read in '88 |
| 05:35.40 | tronix | websae: not sure I understand. you're looking for stuff like the spa-3000? (1 fxs, 1 fxo) or like the TDM400P type cards? |
| 05:35.44 | tronix | or something more to it? |
| 05:36.22 | websae | something where I can have my remote asterisk box connect to the gateway that is connected to a phone line to do 911 calls only for a specific area |
| 05:36.50 | tronix | ahh, I see. hmm. |
| 05:37.06 | websae | any ideas? |
| 05:37.39 | NovceGuru | is externrefresh in seconds? |
| 05:38.54 | justinu | DrDeke: http://www.sbc.com/search/tariffs.jsp |
| 05:39.09 | justinu | sbc is tariffed in michigan, apparently |
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| 05:39.28 | f7950qs0 | o.k. got disconnected for a minute |
| 05:40.07 | f7950qs0 | I still dont understand |
| 05:40.09 | tronix | websae: sounds like you'd probably want to find a provider with many tentacles if you want a national presence in many markets, like Vonage |
| 05:40.28 | f7950qs0 | if asterisk works as a passthrough what do I put in the device |
| 05:40.41 | websae | i am looking for just this one location to have 911 dialing |
| 05:40.50 | tronix | ahh! ok. hmm. |
| 05:40.54 | websae | and thought a PSTN line would work if connected to a gateway that my remote asterisk could use |
| 05:41.28 | NovceGuru | websae, i always pondered the thought of having a single pstn for backup/911 etc |
| 05:41.46 | websae | NovceGuru: what do you presently do for e911? |
| 05:41.59 | NovceGuru | nothing atm :P |
| 05:42.12 | websae | have you thought about single pstn line |
| 05:42.17 | NovceGuru | cell phones |
| 05:42.18 | websae | that should work fine I would think |
| 05:42.22 | NovceGuru | yeah, and also for fax |
| 05:42.45 | websae | but I am wondering what would be a good fxo gateway to such |
| 05:42.52 | f7950qs0 | what does asterisk working as a passthru mean? |
| 05:43.57 | jaike | f7950qs0: it just pushes packets |
| 05:44.04 | tronix | websae: what about dash911? http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/voip/dash911-911-service.asp |
| 05:44.18 | tronix | websae: not personally familiar but sounded interesting since they were geared towards someone small |
| 05:44.21 | jaike | itll just happen automatically between your provider and your phone..if set up properly |
| 05:44.35 | f7950qs0 | so I configure my ATA for the voip provider or for asterisk and configure voip provider in trunk |
| 05:45.08 | tronix | websae: they will set the ANI (which is what E911 really cares about) of the caller's number you pass along |
| 05:45.24 | websae | dash---cost quite a bit of money---ridiculous for what they charge |
| 05:45.30 | websae | you can set ANI for a pstn line |
| 05:45.49 | tronix | i know you can with PRIs |
| 05:46.06 | DrDeke | thanks for the advice and url :) |
| 05:47.27 | jaike | in my setup, my ip phone still registers to *, configured to use g729 exclusively. if your provider supports g729, voila! * will be doing g729 passthrough |
| 05:48.09 | jaike | make sure your not using Monitor, thatll use up 2 licenses, one for each stream encoded/decoded |
| 05:49.06 | f7950qs0 | cool jaike |
| 05:49.09 | f7950qs0 | thanks |
| 05:50.48 | f7950qs0 | what is monitor |
| 05:51.20 | f7950qs0 | as you can see i am a newbie @ * so dont know what that is. still reading the tutorials |
| 05:51.34 | tronix | it's an application |
| 05:51.39 | tronix | from * cli: |
| 05:51.40 | jaike | app for recording calls |
| 05:51.42 | tronix | show application monitor |
| 05:52.13 | f7950qs0 | so by doing show application monitor at CLI prompt i will be able to know whether it's running or not |
| 05:52.34 | jaike | we needed recordings, so even though g729 was doing passthrough, we still needed licenses to decode the streams to an audio file |
| 05:53.04 | tronix | f7950qs0: nah that's more to show info about it |
| 05:53.15 | f7950qs0 | i just saw on the screen |
| 05:53.25 | jaike | Monitor really uses up a lot of system resources..shell, soxmix and all |
| 05:53.30 | f7950qs0 | I can't see a parameter to pass to show to shut the monitor down |
| 05:53.43 | jaike | you dont need to..just dont put it in your dialplan |
| 05:54.09 | f7950qs0 | oh o.k. |
| 05:57.45 | *** join/#asterisk r0d3nt (i=nobody@wsip-24-234-241-145.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 05:58.11 | f7950qs0 | see i wish there were some asterisk classes being conducted |
| 05:58.51 | *** join/#asterisk spunz_ (n=spunz@h081217096096.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 06:02.51 | f7950qs0 | ooh i can visit astricon |
| 06:06.21 | f7950qs0 | I just configured a trunk |
| 06:06.21 | f7950qs0 | how do I know if it's working |
| 06:06.47 | f7950qs0 | forgot to put registration string ! |
| 06:06.51 | f7950qs0 | be right back |
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| 06:08.22 | *** join/#asterisk sprnova (n=oregonal@www.nemirovskyfamily.com) |
| 06:08.55 | sprnova | is there a way to turn up debugging to show me the SIP password send to * during registration? |
| 06:09.02 | eieiyo | anybody have info on the rj-45 connection for the pci radio card in the app_rpt application that runs on asterisk pbx? |
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| 06:18.01 | *** part/#asterisk PakiPenguin (n=bah@linuxpakistan/admin/pakipenguin) |
| 06:19.06 | justinu | apparently you can still order SF supervisory signalling from SBC |
| 06:20.08 | *** part/#asterisk eieiyo (n=Sean@68-119-68-89.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) |
| 06:20.52 | f7950qs0 | I'm gonna go take a hike bye all |
| 06:21.03 | justinu | heh |
| 06:22.27 | jaike | his nick looks like a password im using |
| 06:22.58 | Netgeeks | hrm, nice bug in monitor code |
| 06:23.13 | jaike | monitor? or mixmonitor |
| 06:23.23 | Netgeeks | monitor thus affecting mixmonitor |
| 06:23.47 | Netgeeks | symptoms are this: |
| 06:23.49 | jaike | i thought mixmonitor is a totally different thing |
| 06:24.13 | Netgeeks | *shrug* it seems to affect both monitor and mixmonitor in the same fashion |
| 06:24.29 | jaike | what symptoms |
| 06:24.45 | Netgeeks | if I have a single SIP UA and that UA sends more than one call, only the last call sent is recorded, even though all 10 calls stay up and work fine otherwise |
| 06:25.44 | Netgeeks | so for example, asterisk box a sends 10 calls to asterisk box b (which is running monitor or mixmonitor), the last call sent gets recorded until a new call comes in, which then becomes the one that gets recorded |
| 06:26.06 | jaike | filenaming problem? |
| 06:26.11 | Netgeeks | you get a bunch of monitor files for the length of the last call recieved... |
| 06:26.17 | Netgeeks | so not a naming problem |
| 06:26.33 | Netgeeks | I have files for all calls, just call 1 stops recording when call 2 comes in |
| 06:26.51 | jaike | i dont have that problem with monitor |
| 06:27.26 | jaike | mixmonitor is buggy currently. was gonna post a bug but theres already one posted |
| 06:27.27 | Netgeeks | hrm, I'm running 1.2.4 and have duplicated it on three different systems |
| 06:28.00 | jaike | my problem with mixmonitor was the recording length..say i make a 3 minute call, the recording is only 1min in lenght |
| 06:28.32 | Netgeeks | did another call come in from the same remote client 1 min after the call you were recording started? |
| 06:29.09 | sprnova | anyway to get * to display the password/secret that was used for a failed registration into *? |
| 06:29.15 | jaike | yes..we do that. an asterisk server sending us simultaneous calls..all get recorded |
| 06:30.16 | jaike | Netgeeks: you using AgentMonitorOutgoing? or just simply Monitor |
| 06:31.08 | jaike | AgentMonitorOutgoing uses agentID-unixtimestamp as filename by default |
| 06:31.27 | Netgeeks | just Monitor |
| 06:31.56 | Netgeeks | I was wanting to do some load testing of a system and figured Monitor would give me good asterisk load... but alas, I ran into this issue |
| 06:32.38 | jaike | never had that problem, even in 1.0. |
| 06:32.39 | jaike | never had that problem, even in 1.0.x |
| 06:32.40 | Qwell | Netgeeks: Did you test with the QFEs yet? |
| 06:32.59 | Netgeeks | yep, I ran into another brick wall |
| 06:33.02 | Qwell | oh? |
| 06:33.05 | Netgeeks | interrupt load |
| 06:33.08 | Qwell | heh |
| 06:33.23 | Netgeeks | so I've now got a broadcom 57XX card coming |
| 06:33.32 | Qwell | weren't they all SIP channels? |
| 06:33.37 | Netgeeks | it can do both NAPI and IC interrupt balancing |
| 06:33.50 | Netgeeks | yep, but each packet generates an interrupt |
| 06:33.53 | Qwell | ahh |
| 06:34.06 | Netgeeks | so 1500 concurrent calls with 20ms packets.... |
| 06:34.11 | Qwell | yeah... |
| 06:34.23 | Qwell | ~100 interrupts every second |
| 06:34.27 | Qwell | millisecond |
| 06:34.40 | Mavvie | Zap/6:172-1 s@SJH-AAPT2:1 Up Bridged Call(Zap/217-1) |
| 06:34.40 | Mavvie | Zap/217-1 s@macro-call-ext-XXX Up Dial(Zap/g6/95522179) |
| 06:34.41 | Netgeeks | 75,000 interrupts per second |
| 06:34.54 | Mavvie | why is one called zap/, while the other one is zap/x:... |
| 06:35.03 | Netgeeks | that was locking one CPU at 100% load just handling interrupt |
| 06:35.15 | Netgeeks | no way to spread interrupts from one card to more than one cpu |
| 06:35.26 | justinu | so a better network card will help that? |
| 06:35.44 | Netgeeks | so I'm going with the broadcom card which can do frame buffering... basically it will throw one interrupt every 20ms |
| 06:35.50 | justinu | interesting |
| 06:36.09 | Netgeeks | I'll try it at different interrupt rates to see how it affects call |
| 06:36.36 | Netgeeks | but given the current testing so far, I am suspecting the system will handle somewhere around 4000 - 5000 call legs |
| 06:36.48 | justinu | what kind of system is this? |
| 06:36.57 | Netgeeks | for call setup rate, asterisk seems to croak at around 200 calls per second on this system |
| 06:37.05 | Netgeeks | Sun E4500 |
| 06:37.10 | justinu | sbus ethernet? |
| 06:37.13 | Netgeeks | yes |
| 06:37.14 | Netgeeks | for now |
| 06:37.23 | Netgeeks | got a PCI broadcom card coming |
| 06:37.41 | justinu | hmm, i need to look into the equivalent PC hardware |
| 06:38.02 | Netgeeks | I'll be running the same tests on three PC systems as comparison |
| 06:38.15 | justinu | i'm interesting in following your progress |
| 06:38.21 | justinu | s/interesting/interested/ |
| 06:38.31 | Netgeeks | a dual proc AMD Opteron, a dual Xeon, and a single P4 |
| 06:38.52 | Netgeeks | I'll post results on a web site and publish it when I'm done |
| 06:38.58 | justinu | nice |
| 06:39.49 | Netgeeks | what I hope to prove is that you can do 5000 concurrent call legs at a call setup rate of up to 200 calls per second using stock asterisk on hardware that is under 1500 bucks |
| 06:40.09 | Netgeeks | then I'm going to corner the market on said hardware and charge $5k each! |
| 06:40.32 | Netgeeks | ;) |
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| 06:48.04 | tronix | Netgeeks: you using a call simulator? like the kind that call centers uses? |
| 06:48.17 | tronix | these tend to do pretty good real-world testing of different calling patterns |
| 06:48.22 | tronix | (time of day, load, etc) |
| 06:48.53 | tronix | I've always thought the ultimate call simulator would be modelling 911's setup. ;) |
| 06:49.18 | tronix | or, for that matter, phone voting for major TV shows |
| 06:50.44 | tronix | Netgeeks: another thing that might help is enet cards with tcp offload engines? |
| 06:50.51 | tronix | nevermind. |
| 06:57.15 | Netgeeks | I'm using sipp as a call generator. I've created several scenerio files for it |
| 06:58.04 | Netgeeks | I actually have to have several PC's to generate the calls, I was using a single AMD dual proc box to initially generate the call load, but it was collapsing before the box being tested was |
| 07:01.37 | Netgeeks | What is very interesting is that the very same asterisk source code (1.2.4) is much much much more stable running on solaris 10, than on linux 2.6.15 |
| 07:01.57 | Netgeeks | at least on the E4500 |
| 07:02.28 | tronix | that's interesting. I run these kind of boxes at work as well, so I'd love to hear more details as you find out more. |
| 07:02.53 | tronix | I also have the Sun Opteron boxes too. killer perf, wonder how it'd hold up under solaris/x86 |
| 07:03.18 | tronix | (vs Linux/x86) |
| 07:03.43 | Netgeeks | this sun keeps my home office nice and warm too! |
| 07:04.10 | tronix | :) |
| 07:04.15 | tronix | that it does, indeed. |
| 07:04.29 | Netgeeks | well, I'm off, gonna hit the sack and be back at it in the morning... |
| 07:05.39 | Mavvie | http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/trunk/channel.c <- how can I see the svn log of that file? |
| 07:07.59 | Mavvie | oh, I need to go to /view instaed of /svn |
| 07:08.16 | Mavvie | tricky stuff that svn |
| 07:08.19 | tronix | :) |
| 07:08.30 | tronix | Netgeeks: 'night |
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| 07:09.16 | tronix | also... svn log asterisk/callerid.c | more |
| 07:09.22 | tronix | if you've got a copy of the trunk checked out locally |
| 07:09.26 | tronix | e.g.: |
| 07:09.30 | tronix | svn checkout http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/trunk asterisk |
| 07:09.33 | tronix | svn log asterisk/callerid.c |
| 07:09.46 | tronix | or... as you mentioned, the /view option for the web url |
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| 07:13.33 | batphone | anyone know if there is syntax in a cisco phone config file to set the IP from DHCP to static upon reboot? id like to do the same with polycoms if possible |
| 07:13.50 | batphone | anyone who has had to configure shipments of these things knows what im talking about |
| 07:14.50 | batphone | a lively bunch we are tonight |
| 07:14.51 | Himeko | they prolly just use dhcp |
| 07:15.02 | batphone | what do you mean? |
| 07:15.29 | Himeko | i mean dhcp hand out the ip and the phone uses it |
| 07:15.44 | batphone | right |
| 07:15.58 | batphone | im talking about dealing with quantities of these phones |
| 07:16.08 | batphone | we cant put them into production w/dhcp |
| 07:16.26 | batphone | lots of customers have some "IT Dude" who likes to run 9 dhcp servers |
| 07:16.36 | batphone | we dont need the phones picking up the wrong subnet |
| 07:16.54 | batphone | so, when we first configure them and upgrade the firmware its easiest to run dhcp on the pbx |
| 07:17.03 | batphone | they grab the firmware and the configs and reboot |
| 07:17.17 | batphone | but i cant find any documentation on how to set a permanent ip on them with a config file |
| 07:17.20 | batphone | know what im saying? |
| 07:17.27 | Himeko | yes |
| 07:18.05 | batphone | id like to be able to set the FTP user name and password via tftp... |
| 07:18.29 | batphone | i guess i could email polycom about that but i know im not gonna get far with cisco without some good inof |
| 07:18.45 | Himeko | how do you know you will get good call quality on IT Dude's network? |
| 07:19.47 | batphone | eh, we dont? |
| 07:20.16 | batphone | man.. if theres a problem with call quality on an existing layout we'll bill the crap out of them for new layer 1 haha |
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| 07:20.46 | Guest^DJ | hi could anyone please recommend me a ani based billing software ? |
| 07:20.47 | tronix | batphone: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/cisco+mass+deployment |
| 07:21.14 | batphone | could swear i read it |
| 07:21.17 | tronix | batphone: you can hardcode each phone's IP in their SIP<mac>.cnf |
| 07:21.18 | batphone | thx robin_z |
| 07:21.24 | batphone | tronix: |
| 07:21.30 | tronix | batphone: and use a script to generate each SIP<mac>.cnf file |
| 07:21.50 | Himeko | i wonder if i am an it dude |
| 07:21.55 | tronix | :) |
| 07:21.56 | batphone | tronix: sometimes its just that little nudge you need in the right direction |
| 07:22.14 | tronix | batphone: indeed. |
| 07:22.19 | Himeko | i don't have 9 dhcp servers though |
| 07:22.23 | tronix | Himeko: you don't qualify unless... drats. ;) |
| 07:22.29 | batphone | tronix: i have a killer implementation of that 1 step upgrade |
| 07:22.36 | Himeko | i ahve 3 dhcp servers |
| 07:22.51 | Himeko | but they are on different physical networks |
| 07:23.47 | tronix | batphone: oh? sounds cool. |
| 07:24.16 | batphone | tronix: i might have missed it but i didnt see where you can set the ip of the phone explicitly |
| 07:24.27 | tronix | batphone: could've sworn it was possible.. looking |
| 07:24.32 | batphone | i mean, this is a big deal |
| 07:24.41 | batphone | it would save countless man hours per year |
| 07:25.17 | Himeko | it would be crazy not to have a way to set the ip |
| 07:25.20 | batphone | its in the firmware somwhere |
| 07:25.29 | batphone | i guarantee it |
| 07:25.41 | batphone | we'll just have to reverse engineer it eventually |
| 07:26.00 | batphone | ive tried setting the proxy ip via firmware, though it can be done with the config files |
| 07:26.11 | jaike | batphone: was wanting to do the same thing..couldnt find it in the polycom admin guide |
| 07:26.11 | tronix | batphone: on a 7960g via telnet, do 'show config' |
| 07:26.15 | batphone | but there is checksums involved in validating the firmware that prevent it |
| 07:26.24 | tronix | batphone: you'll see stuff that isn't documented in the webpage's sip*.cnf files |
| 07:26.35 | tronix | batphone: promising entries includes... my_ip_addr, subnet_mask, etc |
| 07:26.42 | batphone | ahh |
| 07:26.48 | tronix | batphone: also there's a setting to turn off dhcp somewhere |
| 07:27.05 | Himeko | you can get that config through a web url too |
| 07:27.53 | Himeko | the list of stuff |
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| 07:28.37 | batphone | once i can get this going its all over, we are deploying Houston ehehehe |
| 07:28.40 | NovceGuru | heh, Himeko from efnet? |
| 07:28.53 | Himeko | i doubt it is a common nick |
| 07:28.56 | batphone | then the job market for asterisk engineers opens here |
| 07:29.50 | Himeko | that mean yes btw |
| 07:30.14 | tronix | batphone: the ultimate in automation would be to have a handheld that scans in barcodes on the boxes of the phones (or the phones themselves) |
| 07:30.27 | tronix | and logs the SIPxxxxxxxxx name to a db |
| 07:30.33 | tronix | auto-assigns entry as unprovisioned |
| 07:30.44 | tronix | then a button on a web page somewhere that goes through the batch |
| 07:30.59 | tronix | picks out first free IP from a db, writes out SIP<mac>.cnf files |
| 07:31.14 | tronix | puts in tftp, forces phone to reboot via an expect script + telnet or whatever |
| 07:31.26 | tronix | which then loads the updated config with stuff hardcoded and any other settings |
| 07:31.31 | batphone | http://pastebin.com/560777 |
| 07:31.41 | tronix | power off phone, put back in box, ship out. |
| 07:31.49 | tronix | a little work to get it all together, but doable. |
| 07:32.03 | batphone | tronix: you are reading my mind man |
| 07:32.16 | batphone | look at my nasty dhcpd.conf file |
| 07:32.20 | tronix | :) |
| 07:33.34 | tronix | ahh that looks nice |
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| 07:33.41 | camonz | hi |
| 07:33.43 | batphone | the NULL string has to have a ^@ instead. with vi its like ctrl v ctrl @ |
| 07:33.56 | batphone | in case anyone needed to knwo |
| 07:34.28 | camonz | i'm trying to transfer a call that's passing from a phone to a pstn line, both connected to a spa-3000 |
| 07:34.30 | Mavvie | batphone: now how to use that in a regular expression in vi! |
| 07:34.50 | batphone | fun fun fun! |
| 07:34.55 | camonz | but, everytime i call any number, i get to wait like 10 secs and then i get the ringtone of the pstn line |
| 07:35.15 | camonz | i'm doing the transfer with the Transfer, dialplan app |
| 07:35.25 | Fedoracore6 | hoe can i intgred agi with mysql database |
| 07:35.32 | Fedoracore6 | any example |
| 07:35.35 | camonz | what i'd like to do is for it to be transparent for the user on the phone |
| 07:35.47 | batphone | Fedoracore6: look for kpettit |
| 07:35.55 | batphone | Fedoracore6: he will tell you |
| 07:36.00 | batphone | hes asleep though |
| 07:37.05 | camonz | batphone: can you help me with the transfer prob? |
| 07:37.16 | batphone | sorry, tronix: i need to wait 6 hours to log into the shell server in order to get telnet to a phone |
| 07:37.37 | batphone | tronix: my snortsec script kicked me out after too many unsuccessful login attempts ;P |
| 07:38.02 | batphone | camonz: i dont know what an spa-3000 is but im working on it |
| 07:38.22 | camonz | sipura 3000, it's an ATA |
| 07:38.50 | batphone | 1-Port FXS, 1-Port FXO Gateway |
| 07:38.54 | camonz | yep |
| 07:39.28 | batphone | camonz: sounds almost like a DNS issue |
| 07:39.45 | batphone | UDP, connection related maybe |
| 07:39.46 | batphone | DSL? |
| 07:39.47 | camonz | ?, why every other call on my lan is working ok |
| 07:40.11 | batphone | i dont have experience with that ata |
| 07:40.46 | camonz | i think it has to do with the transfer app, |
| 07:40.54 | batphone | might |
| 07:41.05 | batphone | watch the rasterisk debug |
| 07:41.11 | batphone | Mavvie: sed |
| 07:41.19 | camonz | lemme try with the dial app and send some tones after it answers |
| 07:41.26 | batphone | sed does good in shell scripting with those pesky control chars |
| 07:43.53 | batphone | ..im still looking for help on HDLC aborts |
| 07:44.08 | batphone | junk coming in across the pri if not the mobo |
| 07:44.17 | batphone | kind of a newb ;/ |
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| 07:44.37 | Fedoracore6 | kbatphone: what mean kpettit |
| 07:45.01 | batphone | if anyone @digium is listening: every board and every box we put in with a PRI card gets those errors all the time |
| 07:45.11 | batphone | thats his nick |
| 07:45.43 | Fedoracore6 | i look at this channel but didint find |
| 07:45.55 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+AGI and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+AGI+php |
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| 07:46.01 | batphone | .. fine tuning with echo cancelling gear on the SV/IAD whatever box gets rid of most |
| 07:46.07 | batphone | Fedoracore6: he is asleep man |
| 07:46.12 | batphone | some of us do that |
| 07:46.21 | glm2k | hehe, true that. |
| 07:46.57 | Fedoracore6 | oic .. thankh you bathphone and glm2k .. |
| 07:47.28 | glm2k | Fedoracore6: you did say you were going to use phpagi correct? |
| 07:47.39 | Fedoracore6 | try finish my sistem ... at this night .... i must work hard ... |
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| 07:47.49 | Fedoracore6 | yes |
| 07:47.56 | Fedoracore6 | any idea |
| 07:48.29 | Fedoracore6 | because my sistem involve the data base from mysql ... |
| 07:48.40 | glm2k | the link i gave should help, although i don't use phpagi, the database calls should be the same as in any php script |
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| 07:48.55 | Fedoracore6 | oic |
| 07:50.32 | Fedoracore6 | ok i try ... implemnt the data codeing first .. if i stuck i came back here |
| 07:50.59 | batphone | i use gentoo |
| 07:51.05 | batphone | its the bestest |
| 07:51.10 | glm2k | hehe |
| 07:51.11 | batphone | even though im a bsd guy |
| 07:51.32 | batphone | i use slack at home and freebsd on my laptop |
| 07:51.38 | batphone | but gentoo for the pbxs |
| 07:51.39 | Fedoracore6 | wish me luck |
| 07:51.40 | Fedoracore6 | :D |
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| 08:02.51 | camonz | is there a source with info of the dialplan apps |
| 08:02.53 | camonz | ? |
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| 08:08.53 | X-Rob | camonz, you can go 'show application' and then push tab to see all the applications, then 'show appilcation Dial' or whatever you want for full docco on the app. |
| 08:09.08 | X-Rob | the other place to look is voip-info.org |
| 08:09.43 | FuriousGeorge | can i have an extension with 2 second priorities (i.e. do both these things) |
| 08:10.14 | FuriousGeorge | X-Rob: you got an snom360 right |
| 08:10.21 | X-Rob | FuriousGeorge, yeah |
| 08:10.47 | FuriousGeorge | X-Rob: im working on a way to get parking spots to correspond to leds but it actually uses meetme, not parking |
| 08:11.02 | X-Rob | I don't think you can hint a partking spot |
| 08:11.10 | FuriousGeorge | no, thats why im using leds |
| 08:11.12 | FuriousGeorge | i mean |
| 08:11.14 | FuriousGeorge | meetme |
| 08:11.24 | X-Rob | you can hint a conference? |
| 08:11.37 | X-Rob | news to me. |
| 08:11.44 | FuriousGeorge | sorta, you gotta have bristuff patch |
| 08:11.49 | X-Rob | Ah. |
| 08:12.04 | FuriousGeorge | installs app devstate which you can use to control LEDs |
| 08:13.04 | FuriousGeorge | but, i've never tried this, but can an extension have two priorities (for instance exten=>911,1,dial(blah) exten=>911,1,set(EMERGENCY=1) |
| 08:13.04 | brookshire | hi! |
| 08:13.16 | X-Rob | No. |
| 08:13.22 | FuriousGeorge | didnt think so |
| 08:13.22 | X-Rob | 911,1,Set(EMERGENCY=1) |
| 08:13.26 | X-Rob | 911,2,Dial(blah) |
| 08:13.41 | X-Rob | or for 1.2-ism |
| 08:13.47 | X-Rob | 911.1.Set(EMERGENCY=1) |
| 08:13.52 | X-Rob | 911,n,Dial(blah) |
| 08:14.16 | X-Rob | 911,n,GotoIf($[ "${DIALSTATUS}" = "CONGESTION" ]?foo) |
| 08:14.16 | X-Rob | etc etc |
| 08:14.30 | FuriousGeorge | im afraid of what will happen if between telling parker what conference is free, and parker completing that xfer somoeone else could get in that spot |
| 08:14.31 | X-Rob | 911,n(foo),Playback(you-suck) |
| 08:14.51 | X-Rob | use astdb to reserve a spot |
| 08:15.13 | X-Rob | eg, set db conf/191=${exten} |
| 08:15.17 | FuriousGeorge | could also do with global cars |
| 08:15.17 | X-Rob | then read it and make sure it's still yours |
| 08:15.24 | FuriousGeorge | vars |
| 08:15.26 | FuriousGeorge | not cars |
| 08:15.27 | X-Rob | if it's not you lost it to someone else, try again |
| 08:16.11 | FuriousGeorge | i think ill be ok, you gonna be around for 30 min or so |
| 08:16.40 | FuriousGeorge | ? |
| 08:18.58 | X-Rob | yeah |
| 08:20.00 | FuriousGeorge | ill show you what i got in a few |
| 08:20.06 | FuriousGeorge | if you care to look :) |
| 08:20.28 | camonz | X-Rob: thanks :->, |
| 08:20.49 | camonz | btw i'm having a problem transfering a call from line1 to pstn in a spa-3000 |
| 08:20.50 | X-Rob | I'm doing AMP stuff so I'll be around for a while |
| 08:21.23 | X-Rob | camonz, using asterisks transfer, or the spa's? Coz I got zero experience in the 3000's. |
| 08:21.28 | [av]bani | ... |
| 08:21.40 | camonz | in extensions i'm processing the call like this: exten => _X.,1,Transfer(pstn) |
| 08:21.44 | camonz | asterisk transfer |
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| 08:22.04 | [av]bani | camonz: the spa3k can manage transfers itself |
| 08:22.10 | camonz | but, the call isn't automatically transfered, i think the call get's hung up and then i get an outside dialtone |
| 08:22.31 | camonz | wich i shouldn't be getting i want the call to be done automatically |
| 08:23.15 | camonz | [av]bani: yep, i think i saw something like that when configuring the spa, although i want to redirect the call with * |
| 08:23.16 | [av]bani | i'm not sure you can transfer a line to pstn like that |
| 08:23.46 | X-Rob | No, I'm almost certain you can't. |
| 08:23.49 | [av]bani | do you have pstn setup for one stage dialing? |
| 08:23.56 | X-Rob | Please tell me the procedure you want to happen |
| 08:24.00 | [av]bani | it might work that way if you transfer it to pstn/somenumber |
| 08:24.11 | camonz | i dial 119 |
| 08:24.35 | camonz | and the call falls from line1 voip iface to the pstn to the 119 service |
| 08:24.42 | camonz | wich is the local hour :-> |
| 08:24.45 | [av]bani | if you just want a call redirected out the pstn, set up a dialplan on the spa3k |
| 08:25.31 | camonz | what about if i want to bill that call |
| 08:25.41 | [av]bani | 119<:@gw0> |
| 08:25.49 | camonz | i would have to use * |
| 08:26.14 | camonz | :-> |
| 08:26.19 | [av]bani | well, if you want to redirect to pstn, you need the extension attached |
| 08:26.33 | camonz | how so/ |
| 08:26.34 | camonz | ? |
| 08:26.35 | [av]bani | exten => _X.,1,Transfer(pstn/${EXTEN}) |
| 08:26.46 | [av]bani | and have one stage dialing setup on teh spa3k |
| 08:27.13 | camonz | hmmm., except pstn isn't a tech, it's a user |
| 08:27.50 | [av]bani | ? |
| 08:27.52 | camonz | like exten => _X.,1,Dial(sip/test) |
| 08:28.05 | [av]bani | sip/pstn/${EXTEN} |
| 08:28.11 | camonz | sip is a tech, refering to a user in sip.conf |
| 08:28.33 | [av]bani | in order to connect to the pstn, the spa3k will require a number to dial |
| 08:28.49 | FuriousGeorge | ig i use meetme with E otpion (for select empty) and specify a room, it wont jump to n+101 if that room is not empty, will it? |
| 08:29.02 | [av]bani | otherwise it wont let you connect to the pstn (unless you have two stage dialing setup) |
| 08:29.23 | [av]bani | actually, what you want is: |
| 08:29.26 | FuriousGeorge | 8If |
| 08:29.30 | FuriousGeorge | *if |
| 08:29.50 | FuriousGeorge | ill assume no, brb |
| 08:29.54 | [av]bani | exten => _119,1,Dial(SIP/pstn/119) like that |
| 08:29.56 | [av]bani | not transfer |
| 08:30.38 | camonz | with Dial?. i've tried that option before and i get a nonexistent tone |
| 08:30.39 | [av]bani | exten => _XXXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/6809/${EXTEN},30,tr) |
| 08:30.53 | [av]bani | that's how i do it on my spa3k. 6809 is my fxo |
| 08:30.58 | camonz | but just with Dial(pstn) |
| 08:31.08 | camonz | hmmm., |
| 08:31.13 | camonz | thanks., gonna give it a shot now |
| 08:31.15 | camonz | :-> |
| 08:31.20 | [av]bani | it works fine, but you need 1 stage dialing enabled on the pstn |
| 08:31.43 | [av]bani | hopefully you have the fxs and fxo registered each as separate extnsions, and friends |
| 08:32.07 | [av]bani | 6502 is my fxs |
| 08:32.08 | camonz | yep, that's how i have it configured |
| 08:32.17 | [av]bani | i will leave it to you to decide the significance of these extension numbers |
| 08:32.20 | camonz | and the 1 stage dialing is already set up |
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| 08:32.56 | camonz | btw how come i can't register an extension with a single digit |
| 08:33.21 | camonz | by example dialing 9 to get access to the pstn |
| 08:33.32 | [av]bani | you can |
| 08:33.46 | [av]bani | exten => 9,1,Answer |
| 08:33.47 | [av]bani | exten => 9,n,Goto(dial-outside,s,1) |
| 08:34.13 | camonz | ok |
| 08:34.54 | [av]bani | [dial-outside] |
| 08:34.55 | [av]bani | exten => s,1,Playtones(dial) |
| 08:34.55 | [av]bani | exten => s,n,WaitExten(30) |
| 08:34.55 | [av]bani | exten => s,n,StopPlaytones |
| 08:35.02 | [av]bani | exten => _XXXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/6809/${EXTEN}) |
| 08:35.02 | [av]bani | exten => _1XXXXXXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/6809/${EXTEN}) |
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| 08:36.12 | camonz | :->, a simulated pstn connection |
| 08:37.35 | FuriousGeorge | ok fellow snom 360 users |
| 08:37.58 | FuriousGeorge | the idea i had in mind was to make the botoom right LED/button the "SelectParkingSpot" button |
| 08:38.06 | FuriousGeorge | so i got a call on a line |
| 08:38.26 | FuriousGeorge | i hit that button and it tells me what line its gonna park the call on when i complete the xfer |
| 08:38.48 | FuriousGeorge | then i complete the xfer and send it there |
| 08:39.02 | FuriousGeorge | http://pastebin.ca/42033 |
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| 08:39.15 | FuriousGeorge | i havent set the devstates yet, but i think something like that will work |
| 08:39.36 | FuriousGeorge | Qwell: youre back. here, take a look at my meetme parking idea |
| 08:39.37 | FuriousGeorge | http://pastebin.ca/42033 |
| 08:39.47 | FuriousGeorge | if that works im gonna use devstate to set LEDs |
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| 08:41.22 | FuriousGeorge | X-Rob: [av]bani especially: please take a look and tell me if you think it will work (referring to link above) |
| 08:42.04 | X-Rob | FuriousGeorge, don't use n+1, use names |
| 08:42.22 | X-Rob | gotoif(...,n(foo)) |
| 08:42.32 | X-Rob | then exten => *,n(foo),blah |
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| 08:44.22 | FuriousGeorge | http://pastebin.ca/42034 i see what you mean, i used FILLED instead but i could have used n-FILLED and n-PARK t have it make more sense |
| 08:44.59 | X-Rob | and I _think_ you're trying to do GotoIf($[ ${MEMBERS} = 0 ]?park:tryagain) |
| 08:45.04 | X-Rob | uh |
| 08:45.06 | X-Rob | no |
| 08:45.11 | X-Rob | let me try to fix that |
| 08:45.25 | FuriousGeorge | oh yeah, expressions take square brackets, forgot |
| 08:46.46 | Fedoracore6 | http://pastebin.ca/42035 |
| 08:47.04 | X-Rob | http://pastebin.ca/42036 |
| 08:47.04 | X-Rob | 8) |
| 08:47.08 | X-Rob | Lets see the differences 8) |
| 08:47.35 | Fedoracore6 | huhhh!! i already try the IVR MENU but have many bug ... |
| 08:49.08 | camonz | [av]bani: it worked!! |
| 08:49.36 | FuriousGeorge | X-Rob: wait a second, you can start with n(loop) then the next priority is n? |
| 08:49.36 | X-Rob | Fedoracore6, 'show application voicemailmain' |
| 08:49.53 | X-Rob | yeah, I didn't actually need that (loop), I didn't notice the while 8) |
| 08:49.56 | camonz | [av]bani: i'm getting a long delay like 5-10 secs before the call is finally made |
| 08:49.59 | FuriousGeorge | and dont you have too many $ where you inserted the [] around the expression |
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| 08:50.25 | X-Rob | No, that's correct |
| 08:50.28 | Fedoracore6 | x-rob hem.. what mean |
| 08:50.29 | X-Rob | (reads it twice) |
| 08:50.35 | X-Rob | Fedoracore6, READ THE MANUAL |
| 08:50.40 | X-Rob | 'show application voicemailmain' |
| 08:52.00 | FuriousGeorge | X-Rob: you took out the __ before setting the var, is that because going from n to n(park) you wont lose than chan var? |
| 08:52.09 | Fedoracore6 | ooo ok .. actually i wanna modify this .. programing to make my tuuchtone programming |
| 08:52.35 | Fedoracore6 | i ..thig his is my ..try and error ;D |
| 08:53.04 | FuriousGeorge | and one last question, there is a chance that if i dont reserve a spot, two incoming calls could get placed in the same spot between n(park) and the next n,meetme |
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| 08:54.57 | X-Rob | Correct, there's no need for a global |
| 08:55.26 | X-Rob | FuriousGeorge, yes, which is why I suggested creating a unique variable, setting it to a db place, and then checking it. |
| 08:55.30 | Fedoracore6 | x-rob .. i forget put the password in extensions_number its right |
| 08:55.42 | X-Rob | then when you exit, set the variable back to 'avail' |
| 08:55.48 | X-Rob | (rather than using meetmecount) |
| 08:56.18 | FuriousGeorge | used astdb before but how hard can it be |
| 08:57.32 | X-Rob | Set(DB(/MeetMe/Chan1)=${uniquevariable}) |
| 08:57.48 | X-Rob | Set(Test=${DB(/MeetMe/Chan1)}) |
| 08:57.58 | X-Rob | check if test=uniquevariable |
| 08:58.03 | X-Rob | if it is, you got it. |
| 08:58.22 | X-Rob | 'show function DB' |
| 08:58.35 | FuriousGeorge | couldnt i also use 5 global vars set to either 0 or 1 |
| 08:58.58 | FuriousGeorge | SPOT[1]=0 and so on |
| 08:59.22 | FuriousGeorge | then test with ${SPOT[${COUTNER}]} |
| 08:59.38 | FuriousGeorge | i see how using astdb is nicer though |
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| 08:59.43 | X-Rob | but they won't survive an 'extensions reload' |
| 09:00.39 | FuriousGeorge | fair enough.... faimily and value are whatever i set them to be right? |
| 09:00.47 | X-Rob | yeah |
| 09:02.02 | FuriousGeorge | and if i call a /family/value that doesnt yet exist, its 0? |
| 09:02.44 | X-Rob | Yeah, there was some wierd-ism about determining if a db entry doesn't exist, or exists and is set to 0, or ''. |
| 09:03.37 | FuriousGeorge | but thats gone now? |
| 09:03.59 | X-Rob | I don't know what the resolution of that was |
| 09:04.10 | X-Rob | ah, they made DB_EXISTS |
| 09:05.07 | FuriousGeorge | wait, another issue i just though of.... if outside party never hangs up, will he occupy that conference forever |
| 09:05.17 | X-Rob | yes. |
| 09:05.53 | FuriousGeorge | is there any way that you can see to disconnect that party from a conference? |
| 09:06.20 | FuriousGeorge | i was reading something in show app meetme about marked agents? |
| 09:06.34 | X-Rob | Set(TIMEOUT(absoloute)=..max length of time of the call) |
| 09:07.04 | X-Rob | but I'm not sure how well that'll work, if the callers been on hold a couple of times, I don't know when the timer is reset (ResetCDR, possibly) |
| 09:07.18 | X-Rob | you'll have to experiment |
| 09:07.46 | FuriousGeorge | yeah |
| 09:07.58 | FuriousGeorge | there should be some way to accomplish this |
| 09:08.23 | X-Rob | There's no easy way to do what you want to do |
| 09:08.40 | X-Rob | Especially what happens when they push the button |
| 09:08.46 | FuriousGeorge | we /are/ 90% of the way there |
| 09:09.51 | FuriousGeorge | and it doesnt need to be easy, its just gotta get done right once :) |
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| 09:11.36 | FuriousGeorge | what you mean when they push the button? in term of making sure no one else grabs the spot in between |
| 09:16.57 | FuriousGeorge | X-Rob: well until i find a way to make it automagic, or aterisk finds a way to allow me to set presence states to conferences, i can have users dial an exten to have meetmeadmin kill the conference |
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| 09:17.38 | X-Rob | FuriousGeorge, your users will hate it. It'll be too complex. Really. |
| 09:17.44 | X-Rob | '#70' and listen for the number. |
| 09:17.51 | X-Rob | takes 10 secs of training, and they're perfectly happy. |
| 09:18.04 | FuriousGeorge | believe it or not my users cant grasp aprking |
| 09:18.09 | FuriousGeorge | cuz there is no lights |
| 09:18.27 | FuriousGeorge | that correspond. htey are used to mechanical switched system |
| 09:18.40 | FuriousGeorge | and cuz they are old and afraid of a real phone system |
| 09:18.45 | X-Rob | they'll have to change. I promise you, you'll spend all this time working on it, and it won't do line status. |
| 09:18.53 | X-Rob | you can't do it yet. Wait for chan_sip3. |
| 09:19.01 | X-Rob | oej has all this stuff in his plan |
| 09:19.14 | FuriousGeorge | why wont it do linestatus with devstate? |
| 09:19.20 | X-Rob | chan_sip3 is eta for middle of the year. |
| 09:19.37 | X-Rob | as I said, what happens when they push the button that's lit up? |
| 09:19.41 | X-Rob | how to do they transfer a call to it? |
| 09:20.19 | FuriousGeorge | you know how the snom allows you to assign destination to the button.led? |
| 09:20.26 | FuriousGeorge | *button/led |
| 09:20.54 | X-Rob | yes. and when you push the button, the phone sends a reinvite. |
| 09:21.00 | X-Rob | uh |
| 09:21.00 | FuriousGeorge | well using devstate to indicate whether a conf is occupied is well documented |
| 09:21.02 | X-Rob | replace even |
| 09:21.49 | FuriousGeorge | i mean that in the snoms config i can say that the top right button and the 4 below are confs 1-5 |
| 09:22.21 | FuriousGeorge | then i can use devstate before and after meetme to set the LED |
| 09:22.37 | FuriousGeorge | so when the hit the button the call the conference room that is lit up |
| 09:22.44 | FuriousGeorge | thats /real/ easy |
| 09:23.10 | FuriousGeorge | you make the final botton on that collum the PARK button |
| 09:23.28 | FuriousGeorge | which picks a room 1-5 as we are trying to figure out |
| 09:24.34 | X-Rob | Except for things like 'why don't they get hold music when I put them on hold?' |
| 09:24.54 | X-Rob | and 'why is there an increasing delay between the conversations?' |
| 09:25.08 | FuriousGeorge | the only differences between what i am doing and the default behavior of call parking is that i have to (1) find a way to automagically kill the call if outside party doesnt hang up, and (2) many people can conference on the parked call |
| 09:25.28 | FuriousGeorge | they get music when they are the only person in the room with the M option |
| 09:25.37 | FuriousGeorge | delay? |
| 09:25.57 | X-Rob | Internal party pushes 'hold' |
| 09:26.02 | X-Rob | person in conf does not get hold music |
| 09:26.18 | FuriousGeorge | why wont he? it works now when they press hold |
| 09:26.40 | X-Rob | because they're not in a conference |
| 09:26.58 | FuriousGeorge | hear me out and bear with me ill try to be concise |
| 09:27.22 | FuriousGeorge | you know how the buttons are numbered right? 1-12 with 1 being top left and 6 being bottom left |
| 09:27.53 | X-Rob | FuriousGeorge, try it. Dial two phones into a conference. Push hold on one phone. |
| 09:27.57 | FuriousGeorge | lets say 1 -6 (left colum) are only the users lines for simplicity;s sake |
| 09:27.58 | X-Rob | no hold music to the other party |
| 09:28.12 | FuriousGeorge | hear me out |
| 09:28.16 | FuriousGeorge | yuor not getting me |
| 09:28.29 | X-Rob | you're going to park them in a conference and somehow pull them out? |
| 09:28.34 | FuriousGeorge | so that leaves 6 leds (7-12) |
| 09:28.40 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: still stabbing that? :> |
| 09:28.48 | FuriousGeorge | with corresponding buttons |
| 09:28.57 | FuriousGeorge | put a red sticker on the bottom left button |
| 09:29.12 | FuriousGeorge | BOTTTOM RIGHT BUTTON 12 sorry |
| 09:29.21 | X-Rob | I really don't care about buttons |
| 09:29.28 | FuriousGeorge | when they hit /that/ button the dialplan you looked at happens |
| 09:29.29 | X-Rob | ok, devstate for a conf works |
| 09:29.34 | X-Rob | whatever |
| 09:29.52 | X-Rob | why don't you just have that as send dtmf #70? |
| 09:30.11 | FuriousGeorge | then there is the calling party on hold (hearing music) and the called party in the first empty conference (hearing music as well) |
| 09:30.13 | [av]bani | snoms can do anything |
| 09:30.19 | [av]bani | one of the few positive things about them |
| 09:30.58 | FuriousGeorge | now when i transfer the conference TO the calling party, calling party is the only person in that conference, still hearing music (am i worng?) |
| 09:31.11 | X-Rob | You're correct so far. |
| 09:31.25 | FuriousGeorge | so now the called party has light 7 lit up |
| 09:31.25 | X-Rob | and you have a light lit up for a conf. yay. |
| 09:31.38 | FuriousGeorge | now anyone in the building can PULL that call |
| 09:31.43 | X-Rob | how? |
| 09:31.50 | X-Rob | you can get devstate to join a conference? |
| 09:31.51 | FuriousGeorge | if they dont have an snom by pressing 7 |
| 09:32.01 | FuriousGeorge | (call the intercom "Mr. SOandso on 7) |
| 09:32.14 | FuriousGeorge | or if they do have an snom they see the light |
| 09:32.39 | FuriousGeorge | whats not /better/ than default parking about that? |
| 09:32.51 | FuriousGeorge | even w/o an snom, other than its harder to do |
| 09:33.01 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: got it all worked out then? |
| 09:33.04 | X-Rob | The fact that meetme has a delay, and you won't get hold music to the other party. |
| 09:33.09 | FuriousGeorge | i dont know why i said 7 up there, a number 1-5 would have made sense |
| 09:33.10 | X-Rob | xtn 300 calls 7 |
| 09:33.18 | X-Rob | 300 needs to call 301 to ask a question |
| 09:33.21 | X-Rob | 300 pushes hold |
| 09:33.25 | X-Rob | caller does NOT GET HOLD MUSIC |
| 09:33.31 | FuriousGeorge | why not |
| 09:33.35 | X-Rob | because it doesn't. |
| 09:33.37 | X-Rob | as I said, try it. |
| 09:33.39 | FuriousGeorge | but he does |
| 09:33.43 | X-Rob | no, he doesn't |
| 09:33.43 | FuriousGeorge | i have |
| 09:33.50 | X-Rob | because 300 hasn't left the conference |
| 09:34.05 | [av]bani | X-Rob: i think the snom injects hold music when you press hold... |
| 09:34.05 | FuriousGeorge | he transfered the conference TO the caller |
| 09:34.27 | FuriousGeorge | after he hit the park button, the dialplan dropped him in a conference only |
| 09:34.29 | X-Rob | [av]bani, yeah, you can configure that. |
| 09:34.37 | FuriousGeorge | and announced the number |
| 09:34.40 | X-Rob | FuriousGeorge, I'm talking about later in the call |
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| 09:34.58 | FuriousGeorge | shoot |
| 09:35.18 | [av]bani | hmm. what does snom F_REC do? send a sip event? |
| 09:35.19 | Dr-Linux | FuriousGeorge: shoot? |
| 09:35.47 | FuriousGeorge | people will have to get used to hanging up instead of using hold when call is aprked i guess |
| 09:35.51 | X-Rob | FuriousGeorge, get over it, and teach them about 'lines can't have lights on them' |
| 09:35.58 | X-Rob | and that '#70' is how to put them on a line |
| 09:36.05 | X-Rob | then announce 'Call for Fred on 71' |
| 09:36.06 | [av]bani | yep.. it sends an INFO... |
| 09:36.54 | FuriousGeorge | even if it didnt, people would get "When a Call is on that side of the phone i can hang up, and it wont cut him off, so he can hear music) |
| 09:38.29 | FuriousGeorge | granted its counter intuitive to make hold+music work two opposite ways |
| 09:38.46 | FuriousGeorge | so im kinda glad to hear it can be configured by the snom |
| 09:38.51 | [av]bani | * doesnt know about INFO Record: on |
| 09:39.02 | X-Rob | sit down with whoever is whinging about this and bring in a piece of cat5, and show them that _these_ four wires actually contain _30_ phone lines. As you can see, it's not just like your old system when you would need 60 wires for 30 phone lines. |
| 09:39.46 | FuriousGeorge | X-Rob: revere transfer is nice though |
| 09:39.52 | X-Rob | 'It may be possible in about 6 months, as it's currently under discussion about exactly how to do it, but for the moment, you'll have to get used to using the standard parking feature' |
| 09:39.54 | FuriousGeorge | a lot of other PBX have that ability |
| 09:42.09 | [av]bani | * is lacking a bunch of functionality. maybe summer 2006? |
| 09:42.10 | FuriousGeorge | another "pro": this is a not-so-dirty hack to get shared lines working |
| 09:42.26 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: set up a wiki page. i'm sure a lot of people will <3 you for it |
| 09:42.38 | X-Rob | [av]bani, it is summer 2006. |
| 09:42.45 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: since a lot of phones wont support shared lines anyway |
| 09:43.07 | FuriousGeorge | there is already a code bounty for a true (not like mine) SLA solution |
| 09:43.22 | [av]bani | X-Rob: i cant understand you while youre talking upside down :> |
| 09:43.33 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: sla is '1.4 2006' |
| 09:43.47 | X-Rob | as I said, chan_sip3 |
| 09:44.11 | [av]bani | which should fix the polycom 7 blf limit too |
| 09:44.21 | FuriousGeorge | [av]bani: besides the killing of the remote party in the conferece, the functionality is no different than the current parking implementation (and the whole its a conference thing) |
| 09:44.32 | X-Rob | no |
| 09:44.42 | X-Rob | parking can return a call after an elapsed time if no-one has picked i tup |
| 09:44.47 | FuriousGeorge | X-Rob: you are totally right, in a few months this will probably all be supported at the server level |
| 09:45.04 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: but you get blf for it right? |
| 09:45.06 | X-Rob | parking doesn't rely on meetme or app_conference |
| 09:45.11 | FuriousGeorge | X-Rob: ok, you may have got me there, but im sure there's a way |
| 09:45.31 | FuriousGeorge | [av]bani: blf |
| 09:45.33 | FuriousGeorge | ? |
| 09:45.45 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: you can light the extension lamps based on the parked calls |
| 09:45.54 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: and stab them to pick them up |
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| 09:46.12 | [av]bani | right? |
| 09:46.35 | FuriousGeorge | [av]bani: we had this discussion. afaik, you cant :( there is no way that any of us have been able to think of to query parking spots in the dialplan |
| 09:46.46 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: i mean, throwing everything into meetme's |
| 09:46.47 | krebs | hi there any know bug 4 asterisk 1.2.4 and ubuntu installation or just I'm a little noob? |
| 09:47.04 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: and lighting them that way, using it as a workaround for shared lines and stuff |
| 09:47.15 | FuriousGeorge | krebs: dont feel bad if there isnt, i feel a little noob a lot of the time :) |
| 09:47.36 | FuriousGeorge | [av]bani: thats what were talking about |
| 09:47.45 | FuriousGeorge | X-Rob: actually got me most of the way there already |
| 09:47.54 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: except of course the issue of not being able to ring everyone... which brings us around to queues |
| 09:48.27 | FuriousGeorge | http://pastebin.ca/42036 |
| 09:48.57 | FuriousGeorge | [av]bani: having never used a queue (feeling a little noob again) i havent considered that |
| 09:49.06 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: so thats your "controlled park" thing? |
| 09:49.17 | FuriousGeorge | well X-Robs improved version of it |
| 09:49.27 | FuriousGeorge | then we decided astdb would be better |
| 09:49.43 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: seems to me you could hack the park function to take parameters for a specific extension to dump into |
| 09:49.57 | FuriousGeorge | then we decided we needed a way to reserve the spot in case two people press the park button at the same time |
| 09:50.16 | X-Rob | FuriousGeorge, http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2006-January/018355.html |
| 09:50.47 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: thats what i was talknig about earlier.. hints on applications |
| 09:50.52 | [av]bani | i knew i wasnt smoking crack |
| 09:51.31 | FuriousGeorge | so i gotta start an argument with x-rob to finally get my answer on that one :) |
| 09:51.49 | X-Rob | What did I miss? |
| 09:52.02 | X-Rob | I googled 'asterisk parking hint' |
| 09:52.04 | Mavvie | Soft unload failed, 'app_trunkavail.so' has use count 539579726 |
| 09:52.07 | Mavvie | funky! |
| 09:54.55 | [av]bani | FuriousGeorge: lemme know if multipark works |
| 09:55.00 | [av]bani | and app hints |
| 09:55.11 | FuriousGeorge | [av]bani: sure will |
| 09:55.27 | FuriousGeorge | i still kinda like the idea of parking spots being conferences |
| 09:55.32 | FuriousGeorge | but fine |
| 09:55.46 | [av]bani | SLA is teh answer |
| 09:55.46 | X-Rob | The _only_ advantage of that is to allow barge in. |
| 09:55.55 | FuriousGeorge | *conferences w/ LED* |
| 09:56.14 | FuriousGeorge | dont forget the purty lights |
| 09:56.48 | FuriousGeorge | and you wouldnt really /need/ the thing to call you back cuz it would be blinking all the time |
| 09:57.46 | FuriousGeorge | what the fnck, its not like it would kill me to do it both ways and try to learn something |
| 09:57.54 | FuriousGeorge | just for the sake of doing it |
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| 10:03.02 | FuriousGeorge | http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5779 <-thats a ptatch to do up the devstate part for you, but i think its only for trunk (aka "production in summer '06) |
| 10:04.27 | FuriousGeorge | shoot, x-rob now that i look, multiparking is for 1.4 too |
| 10:04.49 | X-Rob | shouldn't be too hard to port back |
| 10:05.01 | FuriousGeorge | literally, lol |
| 10:07.14 | FuriousGeorge | im feeling meetme again. one thing ew havent touched on: is there something inherently degrading to quality about 2 people in a meetme vs two people normally bridged? |
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| 10:09.50 | Fedoracore6 | hai all |
| 10:10.17 | Fedoracore6 | i try install the mpg123 |
| 10:10.36 | Fedoracore6 | but my FC4 .. tell like this .. |
| 10:11.06 | Fedoracore6 | # tar xvzf mpg123-0.59.tar.gz |
| 10:11.06 | Fedoracore6 | tar: mpg123-0.59.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory |
| 10:11.06 | Fedoracore6 | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now |
| 10:11.06 | Fedoracore6 | tar: Child returned status 2 |
| 10:11.06 | Fedoracore6 | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 10:11.11 | Fedoracore6 | what mean |
| 10:11.28 | Fedoracore6 | because i try enable wav and mp3 for my asterisk |
| 10:11.44 | FuriousGeorge | you are getting this from asterisk-1.2.4.tar.gz? |
| 10:12.04 | FuriousGeorge | listen |
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| 10:12.14 | FuriousGeorge | make mpg123 in /usr/src/asterisk |
| 10:12.20 | FuriousGeorge | then cd mpg123 |
| 10:12.23 | FuriousGeorge | then make install |
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| 10:16.42 | Fedoracore6 | i already put the file mpg123.tar.gz in /usr/src/asterisk |
| 10:17.26 | Fedoracore6 | but when i type cd mpg123 |
| 10:17.37 | Fedoracore6 | No such file or directory |
| 10:17.38 | X-Rob | Fedoracore6, 'tar.gz' is like a .zip or .rar file |
| 10:17.40 | FuriousGeorge | you dont put it there |
| 10:17.56 | FuriousGeorge | its already there when u unpack asterisk*.tar.gz |
| 10:18.29 | FuriousGeorge | listen to the steps ok |
| 10:18.38 | FuriousGeorge | 1> gzip -d asteriskfile |
| 10:18.55 | FuriousGeorge | 2> tar -xvf asteriskfile |
| 10:19.09 | FuriousGeorge | 3> cd asteriskdiryoujustmade |
| 10:19.14 | FuriousGeorge | make mpg123 |
| 10:19.19 | FuriousGeorge | cd mpg123 |
| 10:19.21 | FuriousGeorge | make install |
| 10:19.23 | FuriousGeorge | the end |
| 10:19.52 | Fedoracore6 | ok i already in .. the asterisk folder |
| 10:20.09 | jaike | just do make mpg123 in /usr/src/asterisk. if your * box has an internet connection, it will download and compile mpg123 |
| 10:20.16 | Fedoracore6 | the file like this mpg123.tar.gz_FILES |
| 10:20.44 | Fedoracore6 | what command i can download from .. internet from asterisk |
| 10:21.21 | FuriousGeorge | Fedoracore6: im not gonna walk you through downloading asterisk and putting it in /usr/src. i just dont have the time |
| 10:21.32 | FuriousGeorge | and the rest of the steps i just gave you |
| 10:21.44 | FuriousGeorge | run them in /usr/src in root |
| 10:21.59 | Fedoracore6 | ok |
| 10:23.46 | Fedoracore6 | what happen if i dont install this mpg123 file |
| 10:24.23 | jaike | no MOH |
| 10:25.04 | X-Rob | FuriousGeorge, mpg123 -is not- included in asterisk |
| 10:26.02 | FuriousGeorge | Fedoracore6: X-Rob is right, he's gonna explain it to you now :) |
| 10:26.07 | Fedoracore6 | fuuhhh |
| 10:26.14 | Fedoracore6 | ok |
| 10:26.30 | Fedoracore6 | furiousgeorge |
| 10:26.37 | Fedoracore6 | thank you ;D |
| 10:26.42 | jaike | heh |
| 10:26.49 | Fedoracore6 | X-Rob |
| 10:27.00 | X-Rob | but yes, jaike is correct, just go to your asterisk directory and type 'make mpg123' |
| 10:27.03 | X-Rob | it does everything else for you |
| 10:27.05 | jaike | Fedoracore6: did you do "make mpg123" in /usr/src/asterisk? |
| 10:28.05 | Fedoracore6 | make mpg123 |
| 10:28.05 | Fedoracore6 | build_tools/make_version_h > include/asterisk/version.h.tmp |
| 10:28.05 | Fedoracore6 | if cmp -s include/asterisk/version.h.tmp include/asterisk/version.h ; then echo; else \ |
| 10:28.05 | Fedoracore6 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:28.05 | Fedoracore6 | fi |
| 10:28.06 | Fedoracore6 | rm -f include/asterisk/version.h.tmp |
| 10:28.13 | Fedoracore6 | yess i made it .. thnk youu |
| 10:28.33 | FuriousGeorge | lol |
| 10:28.35 | jaike | go to /usr/src/asterisk/mpg123 |
| 10:28.41 | jaike | do "make install" |
| 10:29.04 | Fedoracore6 | ok i type make install |
| 10:29.22 | jaike | ok you finish |
| 10:29.27 | FuriousGeorge | ok let's say db_exists returns 0 |
| 10:29.36 | jaike | :P |
| 10:29.43 | Fedoracore6 | :P |
| 10:29.49 | Fedoracore6 | thank you very mouch |
| 10:30.00 | FuriousGeorge | if i use it with sett(foo=DB_EXISTSblah |
| 10:30.03 | FuriousGeorge | what is foo set to? |
| 10:30.11 | FuriousGeorge | 0? |
| 10:30.36 | FuriousGeorge | wiki says it only sets db_result if it exists, so what if it doesnt? |
| 10:31.05 | X-Rob | If it exists, the function will return "1". If not, |
| 10:31.06 | X-Rob | it will return "0". |
| 10:31.13 | X-Rob | Seems pretty obvious to me |
| 10:31.36 | X-Rob | FuriousGeorge, don't rely on the wiki. 'show function DB_EXISTS' |
| 10:32.21 | FuriousGeorge | yeah, but i'm having a disconnect. if it returns 0 how do i use that in the dialplan? does db result get set to 0? it doesnt say... im looking at the synopsis now |
| 10:32.56 | X-Rob | GotoIf($[ "${foo}" = "0" ]?doesntexist) |
| 10:33.06 | X-Rob | who cares about db_result |
| 10:33.15 | FuriousGeorge | you da man |
| 10:33.17 | X-Rob | you're setting foo |
| 10:34.12 | Fedoracore6 | ln -s /usr/local/bin/mpg123 /usr/bin/mpg123 |
| 10:34.28 | Fedoracore6 | what the function mean because this book |
| 10:34.35 | FuriousGeorge | so these functions can be called nested with the options of commands that take expressions? |
| 10:34.43 | Fedoracore6 | write like that after make install |
| 10:36.18 | FuriousGeorge | X-Rob: was that an accurate statement |
| 10:36.48 | X-Rob | FuriousGeorge, I don't know. I don't understand what you said 8) |
| 10:37.12 | FuriousGeorge | fair enough |
| 10:38.02 | jaike | Fedora: its making a symbolic link of the program to another folder..dont worry about it |
| 10:38.16 | Fedoracore6 | oic hemm.. |
| 10:38.29 | Fedoracore6 | i try using ivr ... in wave file |
| 10:38.40 | Fedoracore6 | so i wanna put all my wave file in |
| 10:39.09 | jaike | default is /var/lib/asterisk/sounds..you really need to read docs |
| 10:39.13 | jaike | ~docs |
