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`00:11.02`	`*** join/#asterisk jbot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt)`
`00:11.02`	`*** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source PBX -=- http://www.asterisk.org -=- Asterisk 1.2.5 released!`
`00:11.31`	`[av]bani`	`UdontKnow: you use weird devices`
`00:11.46`	`[av]bani`	`vendors nobody's ever heard of :)`
`00:11.56`	`UdontKnow`	`[av]bani: heh. those are stuff people are selling around here`
`00:12.00`	`UdontKnow`	`[av]bani: and cheap`
`00:12.18`	`xterminus`	`i have asterisk running on the same pc that provides nat for my lan, and (most) all of my phones are behind the asterisk/nat box. Phones on my lan cant seem to call other sip addresses that asterisk does not know about - do i need to setup a sip proxy or can asterisk do this and i'm doing something wrong?`
`00:12.18`	`UdontKnow`	`[av]bani: I dont use those, but my friends / customers do`
`00:12.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`UdontKnow : You get what you pay for...`
`00:12.47`	`UdontKnow`	`[TK]D-Fender: well, but what if I am asked to help make it work, and want to check if I am not getting into a mess?`
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`00:13.31`	`UdontKnow`	`btw, I am far away from anywhere that sells digium hardware (and having to pay 60% consumer import taxes would suck, when a corporation imports stuff for a fraction of the cost)`
`00:13.47`	`UdontKnow`	`thats not MY hardware, though`
`00:14.18`	`[hC]`	`any of you guys using a cisco 7970?`
`00:16.10`	`[hC]`	`Oooh!`
`00:16.17`	`[hC]`	`In that case i have a couple small questions.. :P`
`00:16.18`	`[av]bani`	`ooh ooh mr kotter!`
`00:16.27`	`UdontKnow`	`heh`
`00:16.39`	`[hC]`	`Ive set up distinctiveringlist.xml and ringlist.xml - the phone sees them and allows me to 'set' distinctive rings per line just fine`
`00:16.45`	`[hC]`	`however when i call that line, it uses the default ring.`
`00:16.48`	`[hC]`	`dealt with that?`
`00:17.00`	`[av]bani`	`nope`
`00:17.02`	`[hC]`	`K.`
`00:17.20`	`[hC]`	`Have you played with open79xxdir or a plain jane xml directory that you access via the directories button on the phone?`
`00:17.45`	`[av]bani`	`nope`
`00:17.53`	`[hC]`	`damnit :)`
`00:17.59`	`[hC]`	`Okay last but not least`
`00:18.14`	`[hC]`	`When you place a call, and go into the 'placed calls' section of the phone, do you see proper numbers, or do you get 'To Unkown Number'`
`00:18.35`	`[hC]`	`Excluding calling voicemail, it always seems to figure voicemail out.`
`00:18.36`	`[av]bani`	`the latter`
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`00:18.44`	`abusenode`	`shitty network`
`00:18.52`	`[av]bani`	`lemme try a speed dial`
`00:18.56`	`[hC]`	`Well, those are my 3 issues that I cant solve.... heh`
`00:19.07`	`[av]bani`	`it knows speed dials`
`00:19.10`	`[hC]`	`right.`
`00:19.25`	`[hC]`	`Strange.`
`00:19.41`	`[av]bani`	`maybe chan_sccp isnt quite complete :)`
`00:19.53`	`[av]bani`	`are you using skinny or sccp?`
`00:19.58`	`[hC]`	`sccp`
`00:21.14`	`[av]bani`	`yeh. any manually dialed # shows up as "To Unknown Number" and if you "EditDial" it shows a blank`
`00:21.25`	`[hC]`	`Right. Thats the issue ive got as well.`
`00:21.33`	`[av]bani`	`and you cant dial it either`
`00:21.48`	`[av]bani`	`time to report a bug to the ml :)`
`00:21.54`	`asterboy`	`[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/44391`
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`00:22.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`asterboy : which one?`
`00:23.29`	`asterboy`	`[TK]D-Fender: acanac`
`00:23.47`	`[hC]`	`[av]bani:: ive reported it a few times.`
`00:23.51`	`[hC]`	`I'll do it again though!`
`00:24.06`	`asterboy`	`[TK]D-Fender: both in and out have problems.`
`00:25.04`	`[av]bani`	`[hC]: have any other phones?`
`00:26.03`	`asterboy`	`[TK]D-Fender: the out version gives me the : "Asked to transmit frame type 4, while native formats is 256", which is related to the G729 license thing.`
`00:26.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`asterboy : and you think its a codec roblem?`
`00:26.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`you sue they are allowing ulaw? you config looks fine for that.`
`00:26.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sure*`
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`00:27.21`	`[hC]`	`[av]bani: oh plenty.`
`00:27.44`	`[hC]`	`[av]bani: range of polycoms, cisco, linksys, aastra, and various ata's and such`
`00:27.55`	`[hC]`	`they all work properly so far though.`
`00:27.55`	`[hC]`	`:)`
`00:28.23`	`[hC]`	`[av]bani: Are you dan, i presume?`
`00:28.32`	`_Sam--`	`[av]bani : before i sound like a jackass to the ISP, and just to confirm...there is NO WAY the t6000 can see my MAC?`
`00:28.46`	`[hC]`	`I'll reply to your message to give it some attention with some extra notes.`
`00:28.48`	`_Sam--`	`using SIP`
`00:28.49`	`asterboy`	`[TK]D-Fender: I called tech support and asked them to change from G729 to G711, and they confirmed they changed it at their end, however, it seems to still be using G729.`
`00:29.17`	`asterboy`	`[TK]D-Fender: Maybe it's like DNS records, they need to propagate across their network...sure is strange.`
`00:29.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`asterboy : Guess its still their fault if you reloaded that config from your side`
`00:29.38`	`asterboy`	`[TK]D-Fender: that is what I figure.`
`00:29.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ugh... new ITSP time!`
`00:30.05`	`asterboy`	`[TK]D-Fender: For $10, I think I'll try the license...don't mind supporting Digium anyway.`
`00:30.25`	`[av]bani`	`[hC]: what gives you that idea?`
`00:30.31`	`[av]bani`	`_Sam--: true`
`00:30.33`	`[hC]`	`[av]bani: mailing list post.`
`00:30.50`	`[av]bani`	`[hC]: your sleuthing skills are sharp`
`00:31.02`	`[hC]`	`[av]bani: as well as your anime.net domain :)`
`00:31.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`asterboy : this is your home PBX I take it?`
`00:31.07`	`[av]bani`	`#asterisk is filled with geniuses`
`00:31.09`	`[av]bani`	`:))`
`00:31.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And a good portion of the majority as well ;)`
`00:31.33`	`_Sam--`	`[av]bani : its amazing how clueless people can be. they said it is going to take a week for them to be able to configure their stuff and give me what i need`
`00:31.35`	`[hC]`	`hah. prior to using asterisk for a living, i was in network security. I notice small details like that`
`00:31.36`	`[av]bani`	`_Sam--: correct, there is no way the t6000 can see your mac`
`00:31.44`	`[av]bani`	`_Sam--: you should call the vendor`
`00:31.54`	`_Sam--`	`im like, please just give me an SIP account on the t6000 with a username and password`
`00:32.07`	`_Sam--`	`i tried to find the config docs for the t6000`
`00:32.09`	`[av]bani`	`_Sam--: or download the t6000 documentation and read it yourself`
`00:32.10`	`_Sam--`	`but you need to be a customer`
`00:32.51`	`_Sam--`	`they replied back prior to my last email saying i wont need a username or password when its done`
`00:32.59`	`_Sam--`	`and i replied and asked them how they planned on authing`
`00:33.04`	`_Sam--`	`and why they needed the mac if they cant see it`
`00:33.06`	`[av]bani`	`[hC]: ah, so given the range of phones you have i'm guessing youre an asterisk consultant of some kind`
`00:33.08`	`asterboy`	`[TK]D-Fender: No, I have a failed V300ATA, FXS adaptor at a client, and the only option for quick replacement is to use my FXS card in a linux box for now.`
`00:33.21`	`[av]bani`	`_Sam--: you could do ip based auth then`
`00:34.01`	`[hC]`	`[av]bani: I run an asterisk driven business which sells and manages pbx's for business installs, as well as provides termination and origination, etc..`
`00:34.10`	`[hC]`	`the whole meal deal`
`00:34.31`	`_Sam--`	`[hC]: how do you get your calls to the PSTN?`
`00:35.05`	`[hC]`	`_Sam--: Client PBX <- IAX2 -> Our Server --> PRI/VoIP Carrier`
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`00:36.18`	`AlexCTI`	`Hi, i have a situation, maybe some one can help out, I have an asterisk Box working as a gateway to connect my VoIP and my PBX as PSTN lines to it, so for any reason asterisk is sending the answer signal to soon to the PBX, so how can i set some delay to send that signal and make the PBX works fine? Any one can help me?`
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`00:41.23`	`Zodiacal`	`anyone know where * stores voicemail greetings by default?`
`00:43.16`	`Zodiacal`	`or how do i just create a recording and save it using my sip phone..`
`00:43.28`	`Zodiacal`	`not specificly tied to voicemail`
`00:43.30`	`Zodiacal`	`just a sound file`
`00:43.39`	`h3x`	`show application Record`
`00:44.18`	`Zodiacal`	`h3x thank ya!`
`00:45.08`	`AlexCTI`	`...`
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`00:49.27`	`Olobola`	`placing calls from provider A is fine, recieving calls from provider B is choppy. Everything was fine before switching to a new location. How do I get started troubleshooting? If provider A is fine over my new line, shouldn't provider B work too?`
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`01:04.06`	`Ariel_`	`hello`
`01:06.33`	`tsume`	`no no go away! AAAHHhhhhh!!`
`01:07.59`	`*** join/#asterisk Flauto (n=zhao@71.194.194.48)`
`01:08.11`	`Flauto`	`i think i have a problem with the port stuff`
`01:08.21`	`Flauto`	`i have a gust entry in my iax.conf`
`01:08.38`	`Flauto`	`so i should be able to get calls`
`01:08.57`	`Flauto`	`but the problem is that i see calls coming in`
`01:09.00`	`Flauto`	`but no voice`
`01:09.06`	`Ariel_`	`if your context is setup correctly yes`
`01:09.10`	`Flauto`	`i have 4569 open`
`01:09.33`	`Flauto`	`i tried to call inside of my network, it does go through`
`01:09.40`	`Flauto`	`but from outside`
`01:09.42`	`Flauto`	`it does not`
`01:09.59`	`Flauto`	`the context is correct`
`01:10.11`	`Ariel_`	`now from the outside do you forward calls via your firewall to your box on port 4569`
`01:10.22`	`Flauto`	`yes sir`
`01:10.24`	`Flauto`	`i did`
`01:10.26`	`Flauto`	`udp`
`01:10.31`	`Ariel_`	`opening a port is onething forwarding is another`
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`01:10.42`	`Ariel_`	`yes it's udp`
`01:10.54`	`Flauto`	`i did forward`
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`01:11.41`	`Flauto`	`any idea?`
`01:12.13`	`Ariel_`	`you said you see the call come in`
`01:12.27`	`Ariel_`	`but can't hear anything does it ring your phone and you pick it up?`
`01:12.39`	`Ariel_`	`do you have notransfer=yes in the guest setup area?`
`01:13.15`	`Flauto`	`i see the call come in to my cli`
`01:13.20`	`Flauto`	`i have ivr`
`01:13.26`	`Flauto`	`so my phone does not ring`
`01:13.34`	`AlexCTI`	`exit`
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`01:14.57`	`kukko`	`hello I looking for an a@h expert administrator`
`01:15.28`	`kukko`	`hello I'm looking for an a@h expert administrator`
`01:15.33`	`Ariel_`	`did you look in the #amportal section`
`01:15.41`	`kukko`	`no`
`01:15.43`	`Flauto`	`ariel`
`01:15.47`	`Ariel_`	`kukko, what can I help you with`
`01:15.49`	`Flauto`	`any idea abou tmy problem`
`01:16.15`	`Ariel_`	`Flauto, what does it say on the cli post it on pastebin.ca`
`01:16.38`	`Flauto`	`it is just like a regular call coming in`
`01:16.57`	`Flauto`	`would you try to call me`
`01:17.00`	`Ariel_`	`Flauto, yes so what do you have it set to do in your context`
`01:17.51`	`Flauto`	`[guest]`
`01:17.51`	`Flauto`	`type=user`
`01:17.51`	`Flauto`	`context=inbound-iax`
`01:17.51`	`Flauto`	`;callerid="Guest IAX User"`
`01:17.51`	`Flauto`	`disallow=all`
`01:17.52`	`Flauto`	`allow=ulaw`
`01:17.54`	`Flauto`	`allow=alaw`
`01:17.56`	`Flauto`	`allow=gsm`
`01:18.25`	`Ariel_`	`in the context=inbound-iax what do you have?`
`01:19.17`	`Flauto`	`guest,1,goto(inbound,s,1)`
`01:19.22`	`Flauto`	`of course`
`01:19.28`	`Flauto`	`exten =>`
`01:19.58`	`Ariel_`	`how about changing it to exten => s,1,goto(inbound,s,1)`
`01:20.16`	`Flauto`	`it is also depending on how i dial it`
`01:20.55`	`Flauto`	`the way i dial it is`
`01:20.57`	`Flauto`	`iax:guest@myip.com/guest`
`01:21.50`	`Flauto`	`if i change is to s`
`01:21.50`	`Flauto`	`means i can just dial guest@myip.com`
`01:21.52`	`Flauto`	`so, i don't think that makes a major difference`
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`01:24.36`	`[hC]`	`This is odd. Using the Directory() even with a response timeout of like 20 seconds, it always hangs up 5 seconds after playing the dir-intro file.`
`01:24.43`	`[hC]`	`How do i get around that?`
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`01:25.39`	`Ariel_`	`Flauto, yes it dos`
`01:25.41`	`Ariel_`	`does`
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`01:26.32`	`Flauto`	`i tried, not working`
`01:26.34`	`Flauto`	`same thing`
`01:26.44`	`Flauto`	`but i tried calling inside of my net work`
`01:26.47`	`Flauto`	`it works`
`01:29.48`	`Olobola`	`incoming iax is choppy/under water. I tried adjusting tos settings and jitter buffer, same problem. What else can I do?`
`01:33.04`	`Ariel_`	`[hC], use AbsoluteTimeout(15) or bigger`
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`01:36.52`	`Ariel_`	`Olobola, have you tried to put in the general section of your iax.conf jitterbuffer=no`
`01:39.07`	`[hC]`	`Ariel_: Ummmm.. AbsoluteTimeout will terminate the call`
`01:39.35`	`[hC]`	`Ariel_: Ive already got Digit Timeout (time between digits) and ResponseTimeout (time before user must begin entering digits) set appropriatel`
`01:39.36`	`Ariel_`	`[hC], yes but give it a bigger number`
`01:39.52`	`[hC]`	`I dont want to set an absolute timeout at all. Especially to mere seconds.`
`01:40.09`	`[hC]`	`What you suggested above simply means 'after 15 seconds, hang up this call'`
`01:40.14`	`[hC]`	`no matter what is going on.`
`01:41.33`	`Olobola`	`Ariel_ I did, same thing.`
`01:43.06`	`Olobola`	`incoming audio seems to be fine, when I leave VM it's clear.`
`01:43.37`	`Ariel_`	`[hC], how about DigitTimeout(10)`
`01:43.59`	`[hC]`	`Heh.`
`01:44.00`	`Ariel_`	`Olobola, it's when you send the call to an extension? what type of extension`
`01:44.10`	`[hC]`	`Its set to 10, and we're really looking for ResponseTimeout here. Maybe i should rephrase my question`
`01:44.16`	`[av]bani`	`i shall use my super intuitive powers and deduce that [hC] = Dayton`
`01:44.20`	`[hC]`	`Why does Directory() not honor ResponseTimeout`
`01:44.35`	`[hC]`	`Or, what am I missing, to conclude that it infact does, because it certainly does not seem to.`
`01:44.40`	`[hC]`	`[av]bani: Look at you super sleuth!`
`01:44.52`	`Ariel_`	`hummm`
`01:44.54`	`[av]bani`	`i'm a super sleuth, eh.`
`01:44.59`	`[hC]`	`Me too eh.`
`01:45.01`	`[hC]`	`:P`
`01:45.02`	`Ariel_`	`I have never had to change my directory settings`
`01:45.06`	`[hC]`	`You're from canada, eh?`
`01:45.15`	`[av]bani`	`now go fetch me some poutine and mind the five alive`
`01:45.23`	`[hC]`	`Haha`
`01:45.27`	`[hC]`	`<- Vancouver`
`01:45.28`	`[av]bani`	`no, but i have some canuck friends`
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`01:46.31`	`[hC]`	`hahah`
`01:46.36`	`[hC]`	`Look at this wad of dough!`
`01:46.42`	`[hC]`	`Its valued at $2.11!`
`01:46.45`	`Olobola`	`Ariel_ it's when I call from regular pstn to asterisk, outgoing audio sounds like it's underwater.`
`01:46.50`	`Ariel_`	`[hC], I use a agi to do my directory`
`01:46.56`	`[av]bani`	`[hC]: i'm in one of the united states of canada, fortunately i dont live in dumbfuckistan`
`01:47.10`	`[hC]`	`[av]bani: ah, california then.`
`01:47.14`	`[av]bani`	`no, but close`
`01:47.22`	`[hC]`	`OOoh.... Seattle.`
`01:47.25`	`[av]bani`	`no, south`
`01:47.25`	`[hC]`	`er, washington`
`01:47.26`	`[hC]`	`haha`
`01:47.30`	`[av]bani`	`in between <3`
`01:47.39`	`Ariel_`	`nevada`
`01:47.41`	`[av]bani`	`ha`
`01:47.43`	`[hC]`	`nevada!`
`01:47.46`	`[av]bani`	`thats dumbfuckistan iirc`
`01:47.58`	`[hC]`	`oregon?`
`01:48.15`	`[av]bani`	`Ariel_: cuba!`
`01:48.25`	`[av]bani`	`:))`
`01:48.33`	`Ariel_`	`[av]bani, cuba is an island`
`01:48.33`	`[hC]`	`nevada is for suckers`
`01:48.49`	`Ariel_`	`but little havana is only 32 miles north of me`
`01:48.59`	`[av]bani`	`Ariel_: it is? darn. i was planning to drive to havana`
`01:49.08`	`[hC]`	`Har`
`01:49.14`	`[hC]`	`I would love to live in Bend, Ore`
`01:49.25`	`Ariel_`	`has anyone seen invasion?`
`01:49.27`	`[av]bani`	`[hC]: i have a job offer in bend. why would you go?`
`01:49.33`	`[hC]`	`Cause its a funny name`
`01:49.36`	`[hC]`	`Bend Ore!`
`01:49.42`	`[av]bani`	`theres lots of funny named cities in Or`
`01:50.06`	`Ariel_`	`portland should be called cite of smog or low ceilings`
`01:50.17`	`Ariel_`	`cite/city`
`01:50.44`	`Ariel_`	`[hC], your from BC,`
`01:50.56`	`[hC]`	`Yup.`
`01:51.12`	`[hC]`	`yes there's good weed here. if thats what you were going to ask.`
`01:51.56`	`[hC]`	`Ah`
`01:52.49`	`[av]bani`	`[hC]: yachats, Or now thats a funny name`
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`01:53.26`	`[hC]`	`Victoria can be cool`
`01:54.02`	`Ariel_`	`bbl it's walk time....(Family needs to get out and do some walking to see if we can get in shape)`
`01:55.00`	`[av]bani`	`[hC]: if you want to see something quite eye opening, you should go see the oregon dunes`
`01:55.15`	`[hC]`	`[av]bani: ive heard theyr`
`01:55.17`	`[hC]`	`oops`
`01:55.22`	`[hC]`	`[av]bani: ive heard they're quite interesting to see`
`01:55.31`	`[av]bani`	`[hC]: they're about as eye opening as the redwoods`
`01:55.43`	`[hC]`	`:)`
`01:55.44`	`[av]bani`	`its like "sand dunes. huh. how interesting could that be"`
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`01:55.54`	`[av]bani`	`and then you get there and its all OMGWTFBBQ`
`01:55.59`	`[hC]`	`LOLZOR`
`01:56.00`	`[hC]`	`:P`
`01:56.53`	`[hC]`	`I think today is the day i shall split my extensions.conf files into includes.`
`01:57.10`	`[hC]`	`should i watch the latest lost episode first or not. thats the question.`
`01:57.24`	`[av]bani`	`ew`
`01:57.35`	`[av]bani`	`watch battlestar galactica instead`
`01:57.37`	`[hC]`	`i normally hate these shows, but lost is really cool.`
`01:57.41`	`[hC]`	`Im already caught up on bg`
`01:58.07`	`[av]bani`	`i couldnt get into lost... too cliche for me`
`01:59.09`	`[av]bani`	`i already made my sip.conf into includes`
`01:59.14`	`[av]bani`	`but thats just because of my autoprovisioner`
`02:06.32`	`digime`	`wanted: asterisk tech who lives in san diego....`
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`02:09.53`	`[av]bani`	`why SD?`
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`02:21.11`	`Jedirl`	`Hello`
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`02:22.25`	`needs_help`	`everyone: quick servey if you guys don't mind, what motherboard are you using in your asterisk system?`
`02:22.42`	`glm2k`	`can't remember`
`02:22.53`	`glm2k`	`play safe. get an asus`
`02:23.12`	`glm2k`	`unless you're buying a branded server`
`02:23.22`	`needs_help`	`I have an asus and it is having issues with the digium card`
`02:23.23`	`Jedirl`	`I'm trying to find out... when I have a _X. extension, in which variable do I get the dialed number?`
`02:23.55`	`Jedirl`	`in voip-info it's not very clear...`
`02:23.57`	`glm2k`	`Jedirl: should be in ${EXTEN}`
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`02:24.16`	`Jedirl`	`but in ${EXTEN} I will get "_X.", right?`
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`02:24.27`	`Jedirl`	`or the full dialed number the person who calls has dialed?`
`02:24.46`	`docelmo`	`whadup whadup OR MEW MEW!`
`02:24.50`	`needs_help`	`Jedirl: no you will get whatever number was actually dialed. not the wildcards.`
`02:25.04`	`glm2k`	`Jedirl: those are placeholders.`
`02:25.16`	`Jedirl`	`oh that's fine then`
`02:25.34`	`Jedirl`	`I was getting confused by the "${DIALEDPEERNUMBER}" explanation`
`02:26.12`	`needs_help`	`From my experience so far the simplist salution is normally the correct one.`
`02:27.19`	`Jedirl`	`:)`
`02:27.19`	`[hC]`	`Sooo... is 1.2.5 a critical update? i briefly browsed the changelog, but whats the major fix?`
`02:29.03`	`docelmo`	`[hC], only god knows..`
`02:29.11`	`docelmo`	`1.2.4 was memory fixes..`
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`02:33.37`	`docelmo`	`Actually there are quite a bit of fixes..`
`02:33.50`	`docelmo`	`But nothing worth me running out and changing..`
`02:34.19`	`[hC]`	`Hm.. I wonder if its possible to get the asterisk sounds archive in anything higher quality than gsm?`
`02:35.11`	`[av]bani`	`yes`
`02:35.17`	`glm2k`	`all of them in fact`
`02:35.22`	`glm2k`	`for a little donation`
`02:35.26`	`[av]bani`	`6031413 Feb 7 01:38 asterisk-native-sounds-20060206-01-ulaw.tar.gz`
`02:35.28`	`[av]bani`	`:)`
`02:35.37`	`[hC]`	`Ahh`
`02:35.43`	`[av]bani`	`you should read the ML more often`
`02:35.49`	`docelmo`	`haha`
`02:35.53`	`[hC]`	`I dont get a chance as often as i'd like :)`
`02:36.06`	`[av]bani`	`wade through all the BS and you occasionally come across a gem`
`02:36.12`	`[av]bani`	`once in a while`
`02:37.15`	`glm2k`	`i just keep an eye (or an rss feed) on http://www.sineapps.com/news.php`
`02:37.25`	`abusenode`	`okay what the fuck, this is not working. dtmfmode=inband fales on fwd, so does rfcwhateverthefuck, and the entire line is ulaw without recompression. HALP.`
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`02:38.18`	`[av]bani`	`hmm that is a cool idea for rss: feed it into xml for my 7970`
`02:38.21`	`[av]bani`	`or snom360`
`02:38.26`	`glm2k`	`yep`
`02:38.35`	`abusenode`	`except RSS is dead.`
`02:38.43`	`antari`	`Hi, i was wondering if you can use asterisk for pay-by-phone ?`
`02:38.43`	`glm2k`	`never tried as i don't have either but it's a good idea`
`02:39.02`	`glm2k`	`antari: define pay-by-phone`
`02:39.12`	`[av]bani`	`antari: no, but you can use it for pay-by-carrierpigeon`
`02:39.20`	`abusenode`	`why is my DTMF not working. what does FWD want for DTMF, inband? info? rfc?`
`02:39.32`	`[av]bani`	`abusenode: virgin sacrifice`
`02:39.44`	`abusenode`	`unless your going to provide something useful, shut up`
`02:39.44`	`antari`	`[av]bani pay-by-carrierpigeon?`
`02:40.01`	`glm2k`	`[av]bani: i'd disagree. if memory serves me right, there was a discussion on the list for usign the phone to enter payment info.`
`02:40.22`	`antari`	`glm2k: i have some numbers where you can pay by calling to them ... so i was wondering if i could setup a system in asterisk`
`02:40.30`	`antari`	`sorry for my bad english btw`
`02:41.55`	`antari`	`i hope someone can answer?`
`02:41.58`	`glm2k`	`abusenode: my fwd sections don't contain a dtmfmode so i presume it uses the default, which in my case is set to inband`
`02:42.15`	`glm2k`	`antari: how do you pay through them? can you give the steps?`
`02:42.17`	`abusenode`	`ok and it doesnt work.`
`02:42.46`	`[av]bani`	`hmm i agree with [TK]D-Fender`
`02:42.47`	`glm2k`	`antari: i presume to enter a serial number or card number and it pays once it gets it authenticated somehow?`
`02:43.11`	`antari`	`glm2k: a customer calls a 0900xxxxxxx number and is asked for his ID .. and 10 SEK is drawn from his phone-bill (land-line phones)`
`02:43.40`	`abusenode`	`yes you can do it. no nobody will do it for you.`
`02:43.42`	`antari`	`09001234567 for example is a pay number here in sweden`
`02:43.43`	`abusenode`	`download the sores and start coding.`
`02:43.44`	`glm2k`	`antari: that's doable. very similar to a prepaid card system.`
`02:43.59`	`antari`	`so its possible? =)`
`02:44.14`	`glm2k`	`antari: on first glance yes.`
`02:44.14`	`antari`	`will it work on a eicon diva server BRI card?`
`02:44.19`	`abusenode`	`uh`
`02:44.23`	`abusenode`	`it will "work" on anything.`
`02:44.26`	`glm2k`	`that i cannot answer`
`02:44.29`	`abusenode`	`YOU will need to write the code to do it.`
`02:44.38`	`antari`	`write the code?`
`02:44.41`	`glm2k`	`it shouldn't depend on the card.`
`02:44.48`	`antari`	`for the card to work with asterisk ?`
`02:44.50`	`abusenode`	`yeah, to interface with whatever billing system`
`02:44.53`	`abusenode`	`to charge them money`
`02:44.54`	`glm2k`	`as long as the line can reliably accept DTMF tones.`
`02:44.55`	`abusenode`	`or whatever`
`02:45.24`	`antari`	`ISDN (E1) line will be connected to the server/card`
`02:45.37`	`abusenode`	`why is hardware relevant at all?`
`02:45.39`	`antari`	`and what i want is digital.. not analog`
`02:45.42`	`antari`	`possible?`
`02:45.47`	`[av]bani`	`antari: should work fine`
`02:45.47`	`needs_help`	`well, HE does not need to do the coding, but his only other option is to hire someone that can code it. :)`
`02:45.49`	`glm2k`	`antari: abusenode is right.`
`02:46.12`	`antari`	`yes i have 2 coders who are willing to do it`
`02:46.25`	`antari`	`but for my own appriciation .. i just wanted to make sure if its possible =)`
`02:46.32`	`abusenode`	`if you got E1, you'll need one of digium T1/E1 combo cards, then the hardware portion will work, then you'll need ot write the code to do billing or whatever.`
`02:46.33`	`[av]bani`	`antari: its possible`
`02:46.46`	`antari`	`i head that you just need to run a script which can be in like php or something ?`
`02:46.52`	`[av]bani`	`asterisk will do dtmf detection inband`
`02:47.06`	`[av]bani`	`and it can be scripted`
`02:47.10`	`glm2k`	`of course`
`02:47.16`	`antari`	`now i am confused witch dtmf`
`02:47.29`	`antari`	`whats that?`
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`02:47.33`	`needs_help`	`I find asterisk detects dtmf better with rfc2833, but that is just my experience.`
`02:47.33`	`glm2k`	`antari: dtmf is how the system captures numbers/digits`
`02:47.35`	`[av]bani`	`~dtmf`
`02:47.45`	`jbot`	`DTMF: Dual Tone Multi-Frequency. The technical term describing Touch Tone dialing. Basically the combining of two tones, one low frequency and one high frequency.`
`02:47.45`	`[av]bani`	`jbot still dead?`
`02:47.51`	`jbot`	`yes :(`
`02:47.51`	`abusenode`	`so if i have a peer with inband and im outgoing to fwd with rfc2833, does that work?`
`02:47.51`	`antari`	`oh yeah`
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`02:47.58`	`[av]bani`	`needs_help: asterisk doesnt do any detection with rfc2833...`
`02:48.09`	`abusenode`	`needs_help: thats because it doesnt DETECT it with rfc2833 its transmitted as NUMBERS or whatever with that.`
`02:48.16`	`abusenode`	`so if i have a peer with inband and im outgoing to fwd with rfc2833, does that work?`
`02:48.21`	`antari`	`is it possible to cath the A-number and B-numer in to a variabel and send it through a HTTP-request?`
`02:48.30`	`antari`	`*cath`
`02:48.33`	`antari`	`*catch`
`02:48.34`	`[av]bani`	`yes`
`02:48.43`	`antari`	`wow`
`02:48.51`	`glm2k`	`welcome to *`
`02:48.56`	`[av]bani`	`enjoy your stay`
`02:49.00`	`glm2k`	`hehe`
`02:49.05`	`antari`	`i was just going to buy the voxtron axxium software... when a friend of mine (the coder) told me about asterisk`
`02:49.34`	`antari`	`is the software stabile ?`
`02:49.35`	`needs_help`	`I don't, really care, if it detects it or is recieved that way, I'm just glad it works. LOL. Now I just need to find a MB that doesn't have issues with my digium card.`
`02:49.38`	`abusenode`	`perhaps he should start coding`
`02:49.38`	`[av]bani`	`you can do almost anything with *, except key system emulation :(`
`02:49.47`	`antari`	`any possibilited of db connection when you are on line ?`
`02:49.48`	`abusenode`	`hes gonna need to do a lot of it.`
`02:50.01`	`[av]bani`	`antari: yes`
`02:50.03`	`abusenode`	`your questions really have nothing to do with anything.`
`02:50.18`	`abusenode`	`if oyu already know waht needs to be done, get your coder to start writing stuff for it.`
`02:50.20`	`antari`	`oke`
`02:50.24`	`abusenode`	`and interface with a couple scripts to asterisk.`
`02:50.40`	`antari`	`just wanted to make sure`
`02:50.44`	`antari`	`sorry if i bothered`
`02:50.49`	`[av]bani`	`dont worry about him`
`02:50.53`	`abusenode`	`does it support your ISDN card? uhhuhuhuhuhhu`
`02:51.05`	`[av]bani`	`abusenode, kindly shut the fuck up`
`02:51.20`	`abusenode`	`[av]bani: kindly help me so that i shut the fuck up`
`02:51.22`	`needs_help`	`so anyone have personal knowledge of a MB that uses a LGA775 socket, that has no issues with a TE110P?`
`02:51.22`	`[av]bani`	`good lord you are annoying`
`02:51.25`	`antari`	`well i wondered it .. as it didnt say anything about eicon diva cards on your site :(`
`02:52.02`	`abusenode`	`asterisk supports ISDN in some shape, duno how.`
`02:52.08`	`abusenode`	`ithink through some lunix isdn4lunix junk`
`02:52.11`	`[av]bani`	`antari: it will work, you can do anything wiht asterisk, your programmers will have to write it though`
`02:52.23`	`antari`	`yes`
`02:52.25`	`[av]bani`	`antari: but it's not too hard`
`02:52.33`	`antari`	`but the questio is, is it hard? takes time?`
`02:52.34`	`Jedirl`	`where can I get the outgoing call duration after a Dial()?`
`02:52.39`	`antari`	`oke`
`02:52.55`	`Jedirl`	`is it ${ANSWEREDTIME}?`
`02:53.09`	`[av]bani`	`antari: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+callingcard http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Prepaid+Applications`
`02:53.12`	`glm2k`	`Jedirl: ${DIALEDTIME} too`
`02:53.14`	`[av]bani`	`antari: good places to start`
`02:53.38`	`antari`	`one last question, can you set a limit for a call .. like max 1 minute then the call hooks up .. whether you did something or not?`
`02:53.50`	`antari`	`:) fanx for the link`
`02:53.54`	`glm2k`	`yep`
`02:54.10`	`Jedirl`	`but DIALEDTIME is when the dialing started, and answer is the number of seconds the call actually has taken, right?`
`02:54.11`	`abusenode`	`ya thats doable with standard stuff`
`02:54.14`	`abusenode`	`(the call limit)`
`02:54.16`	`glm2k`	`Jedirl: yep`
`02:54.17`	`[av]bani`	`antari: yes`
`02:54.23`	`abusenode`	`billing / whatever you'll ahve to write your own code for.`
`02:54.26`	`antari`	`wow nice`
`02:54.31`	`[av]bani`	`antari: you can do anything :))`
`02:54.40`	`antari`	`yes, no probs for the code.. got the best coders in sweden =)`
`02:54.43`	`antari`	`:D`
`02:55.00`	`[av]bani`	`well, they should have been able to tell you the answer themselves then`
`02:55.02`	`glm2k`	`antari: in which case, you're ahead of us. we should be asking your coders questions lol`
`02:55.05`	`[av]bani`	`you dont tryst them?`
`02:55.17`	`[av]bani`	`trust`
`02:55.29`	`abusenode`	`DTMF still doesnt fucking work`
`02:55.35`	`abusenode`	`ive bene trying to call dell all fucking morning`
`02:55.38`	`abusenode`	`and I cant press the numbers`
`02:55.44`	`antari`	`haha they're like busy 24/7`
`02:55.46`	`abusenode`	`fuck voip`
`02:55.50`	`abusenode`	`that isnt the problem`
`02:55.53`	`brimstone`	`http://asstricks.com <==== wtf?/c`
`02:55.55`	`abusenode`	`i cant evne get through tier retarded menus`
`02:56.00`	`antari`	`just have to give them the work .. they'll complete it .. though i never get time to have a chat with them :p`
`02:56.01`	`Jedirl`	`and how can I get the exact date in which a call was established?`
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`02:57.01`	`abusenode`	`inband dtmf works with another provider`
`02:57.05`	`abusenode`	`its just FWD thats fucked`
`02:57.05`	`abusenode`	`great`
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`02:58.36`	`needs_help`	`so anyone have personal knowledge of a MB that uses a LGA775 socket, that has no issues with a TE110P?`
`02:58.46`	`abusenode`	`i'd say anythign with intel chipset would work`
`02:59.31`	`needs_help`	`I was told to avoid intel MB's, so intel chipsets are ok though?`
`02:59.38`	`abusenode`	`what?`
`02:59.41`	`abusenode`	`are you fuckign stupid?`
`02:59.55`	`abusenode`	`why would you use a lga775 board that DOESNT use a intel chipset?`
`03:00.56`	`needs_help`	`Nforce chipsets are good chipsets, and they do design them for lga775 processors.`
`03:01.00`	`abusenode`	`hahahaahaha`
`03:01.24`	`abusenode`	`is that what youre sticking te110 into?`
`03:01.31`	`abusenode`	`in that case`
`03:01.33`	`abusenode`	`lol @ you`
`03:03.05`	`abusenode`	`well?`
`03:03.33`	`needs_help`	`No, currently it is in a Asus P5GD1 and it is getting poping noise and I have tried everything to get rid of the noise, I was told by delmar that P5GD1 MB's have issues. You are laughing for no reason since you assumed I had done something like that, I was just mentioning that they did have other chipsets for lga775 processors.`
`03:04.46`	`needs_help`	`and no one has recommened anything they hasve personally used.`
`03:05.12`	`abusenode`	`disabled HT?`
`03:05.17`	`needs_help`	`yep`
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`03:05.56`	`needs_help`	`and there is no way to set the irq's in the bios for this board.`
`03:07.18`	`abusenode`	`fun.`
`03:08.48`	`needs_help`	`that is why I would like recommendations for a good MB, without having to buy a new processor.`
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`03:10.31`	`russellb`	`needs_help: have you contacted support@digium.com ?`
`03:11.11`	`SarahEmm`	`i was talking to someone here who was writing a new tty/fskmodem library a few months back.. are you here?`
`03:11.49`	`needs_help`	`not yet, their hours suck and I haven't gotten to be able to contact them durring business hours.`
`03:12.48`	`russellb`	`needs_help: you can communicate with them by email.`
`03:13.28`	`needs_help`	`do they respond on the weekends?`
`03:13.36`	`russellb`	`no`
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`03:15.00`	`SarahEmm`	`ahhh it was coppice.`
`03:16.28`	`ravenpi`	`Just re-provisioned my T1 to ISDN. D-channel appears to be working -- hell, EVERYTHING appears to be working, with the oh-so-minor detail of no audio. Any ideas?`
`03:18.24`	`abusenode`	`18006249896`
`03:18.29`	`abusenode`	`er.`
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`03:37.11`	`covici1`	`hello .`
`03:37.25`	`SarahEmm`	`hiya`
`03:37.32`	`Ramzi-324`	`18006249896`
`03:37.39`	`abusenode`	`thanks, thats dell.`
`03:38.41`	`kuku5`	`ravenpi: no audoi ?`
`03:38.43`	`covici1`	`I am having a problem -- 1.2.5 when I try to call a zap channel it times out and says almost immediately no response after 20000 milliseconds.`
`03:43.08`	`gbrowley`	`Trying to register asterisk to Huawei SoftX3000 softswitch using sip with no luck. My IP phone, sjphone, etc no problem. I'm getting 401 Unauthorized errors. can anyone offer me suggestions as to where to start looking?`
`03:44.53`	`abusenode`	`yes`
`03:44.55`	`abusenode`	`in sip.conf.`
`03:49.27`	`gbrowley`	`Yep been playing around in there all morning, its morning here in asia :-) with no luck.`
`03:50.40`	`gbrowley`	`I've even gone as far as doing Etherial dumps and comparing them...`
`03:50.41`	`abusenode`	`heh`
`03:51.00`	`abusenode`	`and sip debug doesnt show anything fun?`
`03:51.09`	`abusenode`	`do you have anythign about "Session timers"`
`03:51.13`	`abusenode`	`in the workign registration log?`
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`03:52.58`	`gbrowley`	`Nope Sip debug looks fine. It's not showing any weird things. Not tried session timers, I'll give it ago..`
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`03:53.25`	`gbrowley`	`The killer is both sjphone and my IP phone register fine and they're simple things...`
`03:55.42`	`Jedirl`	`how can I disable the "700" extension?`
`03:55.55`	`Jedirl`	`if I don't load the res_features.so, asterisk complains when loading chan_sip`
`03:56.10`	`f^bar`	`Comment it out of extensions.conf`
`03:56.24`	`Jedirl`	`it doesn't appear in extensions`
`03:56.24`	`[av]bani`	`700 is parkinglot`
`03:56.35`	`Jedirl`	`I know`
`03:56.40`	`Jedirl`	`but I don't know how to disable it`
`03:56.49`	`Jedirl`	`i've commented out any reference to parking in features.conf`
`03:57.41`	`[av]bani`	`zapata.conf -> canpark = no ?`
`03:57.48`	`Jedirl`	`ok`
`03:59.37`	`[av]bani`	`or noload => app_parkandannounce.so`
`04:01.08`	`Jedirl`	`I've added it`
`04:01.16`	`Jedirl`	`'700' extension still appears in my dialplan`
`04:01.27`	`russellb`	`if you don't include "parkedcalls" in any context, it won't matter ....`
`04:07.49`	`gbrowley`	`Can anyone see what maybe happening here? http://pastebin.ca/44401`
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`04:09.47`	`f^bar`	`Doesn't look unusual`
`04:09.56`	`Abydos313`	`gbrowley should it be the localhost instead of ip of machine?`
`04:10.07`	`Abydos313`	`reverse what i said..he`
`04:10.09`	`Abydos313`	`heh`
`04:10.27`	`abusenode`	`pastebin sucks`
`04:10.39`	`gbrowley`	`Ya I was wondering about that. You mean 127.0.0.1?`
`04:10.58`	`f^bar`	`abusenode, better than flooding the channel`
`04:11.16`	`ravenpi`	`kuku5: Yeah, no audio. Calls show as going through, prompts show as being played, caller ID & DID works, etc... but no audio.`
`04:11.16`	`abusenode`	`rafb.net/paste > pastebin`
`04:11.21`	`abusenode`	`gbrowley: you are connecting asterisk to it instead of <what>/`
`04:12.21`	`gbrowley`	`abusenode: Yes trying to connect asterisk to it. I can connect SJphone, a PA1688 based phone as well as my wifi phone to it with no problems.`
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`04:13.41`	`abusenode`	`hm.`
`04:13.46`	`*** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=joe@66.11.164.239)`
`04:13.59`	`abusenode`	`and you didnt fuckup register=>, the [peer] group etc etc?`
`04:14.22`	`abusenode`	`username/secret/fromuser/fromdomain/insecure=very, etc?`
`04:15.21`	`gbrowley`	`Boning the Register is possible. Let me post the section from sip.conf`
`04:15.23`	`Abydos313`	`add entry to your /etc/hosts file with 192.168.x.x fqdn nameofmachine`
`04:15.34`	`Abydos313`	`replace 192.168.x.x with ip of your machine`
`04:15.58`	`gbrowley`	`Abydos313: Ok I'll give that a try`
`04:16.06`	`Abydos313`	`then reboot`
`04:17.03`	`abusenode`	`what`
`04:17.07`	`abusenode`	`lol @ blind leading the blind`
`04:17.11`	`abusenode`	`why hte fuck would oyu reboot after hcangign hosts`
`04:17.46`	`abusenode`	`gbrowley: rafb.net/paste relevant register line + sip peer line for the box`
`04:17.50`	`Abydos313`	`easy to tell someone to reboot then reload network and reload asterisk, but you're right i'm a newb`
`04:18.01`	`gbrowley`	`Here's what I've got in sip.conf http://pastebin.ca/44402`
`04:18.34`	`abusenode`	`disallow=all, allow=ulaw`
`04:18.37`	`abusenode`	`though that shouldnt matter`
`04:18.40`	`abusenode`	`oh you have that`
`04:18.41`	`abusenode`	`never mind`
`04:20.30`	`*** join/#asterisk Olobola (n=casper_s@216.218.221.166)`
`04:21.20`	`abusenode`	`and register?`
`04:21.45`	`abusenode`	`i've had some switches I had to register to with like register=>lol:jews:hi@softswitch`
`04:21.59`	`abusenode`	`those 3 things being in some screwed up order but eventually it worked`
`04:22.35`	`gbrowley`	`username:password@219.XXX.XXX.XXX:5060/username`
`04:23.18`	`Olobola`	`new internet connection = choppy audio (outgoing). 900 Mbps up. I tried jitterbuffer on/off and went through all the tos settiings. What else can I do?`
`04:23.20`	`abusenode`	`hm`
`04:23.30`	`SarahEmm`	`900Mbps up?`
`04:23.43`	`joat`	`Olobola: look at top?`
`04:23.48`	`Olobola`	`1Mbps! whoops`
`04:23.51`	`SarahEmm`	`hehee`
`04:23.54`	`SarahEmm`	`i was going to say...`
`04:24.01`	`Abydos313`	`900 you wish ;)`
`04:24.19`	`abusenode`	`gbrowley: that might be why`
`04:24.43`	`abusenode`	`is your username and fromuser same?`
`04:24.44`	`abusenode`	`or different`
`04:24.52`	`gbrowley`	`same`
`04:25.11`	`Olobola`	`joat: top?`
`04:27.33`	`f^bar`	`Top, used to check stuff like processor usage`
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`04:28.10`	`Olobola`	`I got it, thanks`
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`04:30.21`	`abusenode`	`is there a native windows port of asterisk yet?`
`04:30.22`	`Olobola`	`1%ish`
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`04:30.28`	`abusenode`	`it would stop a shitload of failure problems with dumb users.`
`04:30.29`	`russellb`	`abusenode: no`
`04:30.31`	`abusenode`	`too bad.`
`04:30.34`	`asterisk99`	`Anyone know of a gsm file that says 'mailbox' or 'mailbox number' ?`
`04:32.10`	`Olobola`	`http://public.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php`
`04:32.12`	`Olobola`	`http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2002-December/006635.html`
`04:32.42`	`asterisk99`	`abusenode: There's a kludge of Asterisk running on Windows called AstWin... it uses coLinux ... I was unable to get it to run properly PLUS it doesn;t support Zap cards anyhoo`
`04:32.58`	`russellb`	`runs in cygwin`
`04:33.05`	`russellb`	`(not zaptel, of course)`
`04:33.30`	`bkw_`	`abusenode, FreeSwitch works on Windows`
`04:33.34`	`abusenode`	`cygwin is garbage. not enterprise ready.`
`04:33.40`	`bkw_`	`it actually works on Mac, BSD, Linux and Windows`
`04:33.48`	`abusenode`	`then it probably sucks.`
`04:34.06`	`bkw_`	`FreeSwitch can compile under MSVC`
`04:34.12`	`bkw_`	`not can.. but does`
`04:34.33`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`no.. the asterisk port to cygwin is still not good.. just the 1.0.9 one from the guy in france..`
`04:34.45`	`abusenode`	`have you ever seen source code of a program that "actually works on Mac, BSD, Linux and Windows"?`
`04:34.46`	`russellb`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: ah, sorry, my bad`
`04:34.49`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`the stuff in trunk is still not ready...`
`04:34.58`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it segs when you put calls through :(`
`04:35.08`	`bkw_`	`abusenode, I have that code on my screen right now`
`04:35.16`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`abusenode, yeah.. it's on my...`
`04:35.16`	`abusenode`	`you must be very unlucky.`
`04:35.17`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`damn...`
`04:35.22`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`04:35.29`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`abusenode, it's quite nice really..`
`04:36.01`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`abusenode, or look at the most recent snapshot of spandsp`
`04:36.10`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it's ported to msvc...`
`04:36.11`	`abusenode`	`spandsp is still being developed?`
`04:36.14`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and is not ugly at all`
`04:36.16`	`abusenode`	`does it support 14k4 faxes yet?`
`04:36.25`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yes.. quite a lot of development..`
`04:36.26`	`abusenode`	`or is it still stuck at 2400 baud`
`04:36.33`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it does 9600...`
`04:36.56`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`14k4 I don't think works well yet.. and it has patent issues...`
`04:37.00`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`so I understand`
`04:37.08`	`bkw_`	`its only receive I think`
`04:37.09`	`bkw_`	`not send`
`04:37.36`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`my point being, code does not have to be ugly to be cross platform..`
`04:38.02`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`if structured properly, all of the platform specific stuff is all in one place`
`04:38.13`	`abusenode`	`ya right, and you see that how often`
`04:38.22`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`in the code I work on... :P`
`04:38.39`	`bkw_`	`yep`
`04:38.51`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`one of these days I will finish the mingw port for asterisk..`
`04:38.56`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`that is quite dooable`
`04:38.56`	`abusenode`	`why bother?`
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`04:39.03`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`for the hell of it..`
`04:39.08`	`abusenode`	`if it isnt msvc + project files, its a waste of your and everyone elses time.`
`04:39.11`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`you kind of have a lousy attitude`
`04:39.40`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I don't disagree that I would rather have it work in msvc.. but asterisk as it currently stands will never compile in msvc.`
`04:39.48`	`abusenode`	`really.`
`04:39.54`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yes, really`
`04:40.08`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it depends on several gcc specific extensions`
`04:40.09`	`abusenode`	`what prevents it from doing so?`
`04:40.13`	`abusenode`	`like what?`
`04:40.17`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`typeof`
`04:40.28`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`go look in the linked list macros.`
`04:40.37`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`none of that stuff can be ported.`
`04:40.51`	`Jedirl`	`typeof is GCC-only???`
`04:40.52`	`russellb`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: you could just provide the stuct type as another argument to work around that`
`04:40.56`	`russellb`	`Jedirl: yeah`
`04:41.00`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`so the entire linked list and astobj stuff would need to be scrapped and replaced with somthing else`
`04:41.06`	`Jedirl`	`didn't know`
`04:41.16`	`abusenode`	`since when is asterisk in C++?`
`04:41.22`	`abusenode`	`why would you need typeof?`
`04:41.35`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`go look at it..`
`04:41.38`	`Jedirl`	`hehe`
`04:41.39`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`linkedlist.h`
`04:41.53`	`abusenode`	`linux doesnt support a linked list?`
`04:41.53`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`russellb, maybe.. but would that ever get accepted`
`04:41.56`	`abusenode`	`what the hell no wonder`
`04:42.08`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it's not a linux thing...`
`04:42.24`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it could be replaced with somthing....`
`04:42.25`	`russellb`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: it depends how many things like that you had to do`
`04:42.35`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`well.. that's the only big one`
`04:42.36`	`russellb`	`I mean, if it's that one change to make it work, that's not that big of a deal, IMO`
`04:42.40`	`abusenode`	`well, in Windows theres CAtlList and std::whateverlist, plus i remember seeing a linked list helper functions in psdk, so theres at least 3 implementations`
`04:42.43`	`abusenode`	`why would you roll your onw?`
`04:42.47`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`that's not the ONE change..`
`04:42.52`	`russellb`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: yeah, I even asked around at school about that for you, got no good answers`
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`04:42.57`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`but that is the biggest one keeping me from doing it.`
`04:43.00`	`Jedirl`	`abusenode: if you want windows stuff, go buy dialogic gear and software and stop complaining with such bad attitude`
`04:43.07`	`abusenode`	`im complaining?`
`04:43.23`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`but much better than that hack would be to use hashtables for that stuff instead of the linked lists.`
`04:43.32`	`Jedirl`	`"[05:40] <abusenode> if it isnt msvc + project files, its a waste of your and everyone elses time."`
`04:43.36`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`that would solve SOOO many asterisk issues`
`04:44.06`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I want stuff on windows.... so I work on another project that does that too..`
`04:44.09`	`russellb`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: astobj is implemented with hash tables`
`04:44.09`	`abusenode`	`good god, linked lists done with macros?`
`04:44.17`	`abusenode`	`is this an old revision im loking at or is that still the case?`
`04:44.24`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I mean to replace the linked lists shit..`
`04:44.24`	`abusenode`	`do you guys not like debugging or what`
`04:45.07`	`Jedirl`	`I don't know asterisk implementation details but macros are not wrong by-design`
`04:45.27`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`no.. but these are particularly ugly to look at...`
`04:45.34`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`that being said.. they are kinda cool`
`04:45.40`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`just not portable`
`04:45.55`	`abusenode`	`they're cool in the sense of "this is an example of how NOT to code"`
`04:46.06`	`Jedirl`	`what's wrong with it?`
`04:46.10`	`abusenode`	`take a look.`
`04:46.16`	`abusenode`	`i'm guessing they're used a lot, too`
`04:46.22`	`abusenode`	`i'd hate to be debugging code which uses that stuff and breaks.`
`04:46.23`	`russellb`	`:'( <-- abusenode: that tear is for you`
`04:46.38`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`russellb, to answer your earlier question.. there are a number of issues, but all the rest are prettty easy.. for example.. can't do varags macros either... but you just replace those w/ functions pretty easily`
`04:46.56`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`russellb, awww...`
`04:46.57`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`hehe`
`04:46.57`	`russellb`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: ah, ok. that's a pain`
`04:47.01`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yeah..`
`04:47.04`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`but like I said..`
`04:47.10`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`all the rest is pretty doable..`
`04:47.20`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it's just doing it.`
`04:47.23`	`russellb`	`it seems like making that change would be worth it to see what else you run in to`
`04:47.39`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yeah... it's just the time at this point..`
`04:47.42`	`russellb`	`yeah`
`04:48.02`	`russellb`	`would you want to share what you have so far?`
`04:48.09`	`russellb`	`I've been having to mess around with MSVC lately, anyway ...`
`04:48.17`	`russellb`	`heh, like I have lots of extra time .....`
`04:48.27`	`asterisk99`	`Does anyone know of a gsm file that says just 'mailbox' or 'mailbox number' ???`
`04:48.45`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`what I have so far is just the experience in my head of all the stuff I have done for freesitch, spandsp, unicall, ect in porting stuff`
`04:48.56`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`so I know what is easy... and what is hard.`
`04:48.59`	`russellb`	`gotcha`
`04:49.08`	`russellb`	`asterisk99: you can look in the sounds.txt file`
`04:49.09`	`bkw_`	`and not much work when porting to the mac other than bitchyness on types`
`04:49.15`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I guess the other thing to deal with that is an issue is all the file access stuff and all the user stuff`
`04:49.16`	`bkw_`	`a few odd issues have come up`
`04:49.30`	`asterisk99`	`russellb: which one?`
`04:49.43`	`russellb`	`the one in the root directory of the source tree`
`04:49.49`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`cat sounds.txt\| grep .... :P`
`04:49.59`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`hehe`
`04:50.07`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`the only one in the source tree?`
`04:50.08`	`russellb`	`and there is an sounds-extras.txt in asterisk-sounds i think`
`04:50.10`	`russellb`	`something like that`
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`04:51.22`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`the one thing I did run into that was kinda nice was when steve underwood and I were back and forth on spandsp, instead of hacking the crap out of every header that windows doesn't have with ifdefs on the includes, just create replacements for the header files`
`04:51.28`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and put the stuff you need intehre`
`04:51.38`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`like create an include\msvc dir`
`04:51.43`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`include that only on windows`
`04:51.53`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and create a inittypes.h in there`
`04:52.02`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`with all the typedefs for the inittypes`
`04:52.15`	`asterisk99`	`russellb: nothing there that's usable... I've even looked in sounds-extra`
`04:52.25`	`abusenode`	`what`
`04:52.31`	`russellb`	`asterisk99: ok`
`04:52.32`	`abusenode`	`there's a mailbox? message.`
`04:52.33`	`abusenode`	`in voicemail`
`04:52.36`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`ast_freak, just snag one htat has the word in it...`
`04:52.41`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and chop it`
`04:52.42`	`abusenode`	`im just too lazy to look in that dir and find it`
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`04:52.49`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`is there nothing`
`04:53.04`	`russellb`	`abusenode: but you've got plenty of energy to complain about code you haven't helped with :-p`
`04:53.11`	`asterisk99`	`abusenode: prepended with "comedian mail"`
`04:53.19`	`abusenode`	`ok, cool`
`04:53.29`	`abusenode`	`open it in your favorite opensores sound editor`
`04:53.33`	`abusenode`	`and snip "comedian mail" part.`
`04:53.51`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`%vm-whichbox.gsm%To leave a message, please enter a mailbox number.`
`04:53.58`	`asterisk99`	`Does anyone know why on earth they made it *Comedian* Mail??? Was it a joke?`
`04:54.03`	`abusenode`	`yes.`
`04:54.07`	`abusenode`	`just like all open source software.`
`04:54.09`	`abusenode`	`its mostly a joke.`
`04:54.17`	`abusenode`	`nobody in "corporate environment" understands them either.`
`04:54.18`	`bkw_`	`its a pun on meridian mail`
`04:54.28`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`russellb, I'd be happy to beat it up with you if you like...`
`04:54.32`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it would be fun..`
`04:54.34`	`abusenode`	`which is why lunix/etc is hardly used outside of parents' basements.`
`04:54.38`	`asterisk99`	`abusenode: What a joke? Windows or the word "Comedian"?`
`04:54.46`	`russellb`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: maybe we can set up a branch for it if we get something going ...`
`04:54.48`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and if I have learned anything about porting is that....`
`04:54.52`	`Scarad`	`i am having trouble getting asterisk to build under cygwin, i see there is a makefile in the cywin dir should I be using that?`
`04:54.57`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`asterisk99.. and this is for you.`
`04:55.05`	`abusenode`	`asterisk99: the "stabs" opensource software takes at commercial windows software`
`04:55.12`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`when porting to other platforms... ALL platforms benefit`
`04:55.15`	`asterisk99`	`bkw_: Hmmmmmm. Yes. Good ol' Meridian`
`04:55.34`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`becuase you will find all kinds of bugs that did not show prominantly in one platform, but were still there`
`04:55.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`It was named "Comedian Mail" as a joke in reference to the old stalwart "Meridian Mail" system after which it was modeled.`
`04:55.50`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`Scarad, what's it doing.. I did all that porting work...`
`04:56.12`	`abusenode`	`I like UNporting code.`
`04:56.13`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`please be aware that 1.2 does not actaully work on cygwin.. but it will or should still build`
`04:56.24`	`abusenode`	`taking crossplatform shit, taking it all out, and making it WINDOWS ONLY.`
`04:56.26`	`abusenode`	`and closed source.`
`04:56.48`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`abusenode, you are really an angry person arn't you?`
`04:56.51`	`abusenode`	`no`
`04:56.54`	`bkw_`	`you seem to be`
`04:57.00`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`heh...`
`04:57.09`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it's ok to be angry...`
`04:57.10`	`russellb`	`a pretty hardcore troll, IMO`
`04:57.11`	`asterisk99`	`If that was the case, then I would have suggested "Longitude Mail"`
`04:57.14`	`bkw_`	`making code cross platform isn't ugly at all`
`04:57.18`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`russellb, heh.. I like you`
`04:57.25`	`russellb`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: :)`
`04:57.55`	`russellb`	`asterisk99: haha, that's pretty good`
`04:58.05`	`Scarad`	it starts off normally and then I get a bunch of errors that look like ---help.c:263: warning: (near initialization for `el_func_help[0].description')---
`04:58.28`	`asterisk99`	`abusenode: Linux is open source is it not?`
`04:58.49`	`tsume`	`linux is opensource`
`04:58.54`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I'll tell ya.. by the time you get it working on linux, max, and windows.. it is a whole lot more rocksolid than it started.. especially if you keep to a warnings cranked up, and warnings are errors policy on all the platforms..`
`04:58.55`	`russellb`	`no it's not!`
`04:59.10`	`tsume`	`linux is under an opensource license :)`
`04:59.17`	`russellb`	`no it's not!`
`04:59.19`	`bkw_`	`which makes it open source`
`04:59.19`	`abusenode`	`asterisk99: how is that relevant`
`04:59.22`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`Scarad, what is that in?`
`04:59.26`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`help.c?`
`04:59.32`	`tsume`	`the GPL, specifically GPLv2, not the trashy 3 license`
`04:59.36`	`russellb`	`i'm just kidding, by the way ...`
`04:59.47`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`LIAR`
`05:00.03`	`russellb`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: I wasn't aware we had a help.c anywhere, heh`
`05:00.03`	`asterisk99`	`Thought so ... and certainly Linus is used by some fairly big corporations ... dunno if any of the Internet Backbone runs Linux`
`05:00.08`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`me either..`
`05:00.12`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`searching for it now`
`05:00.17`	`tsume`	`asterisk99: they do..`
`05:00.27`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`nope.. no help.c in my asterisk tree.`
`05:00.30`	`tsume`	`asterisk99: though, they prolly run freebsd though ;)`
`05:00.43`	`tsume`	`asterisk99: FreeBSd is a much better server than linux.`
`05:00.47`	`tsume`	`*FreeBSD`
`05:00.47`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`Scarad, where is that file...`
`05:00.55`	`file[laptop]`	`file found`
`05:00.59`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yay OS wars... look what I have started..`
`05:01.05`	`asterisk99`	`But I read that IBM ran 400 concurrent Linux virtual machines on one of its S/390 mainframes ----- Now that was cool!`
`05:01.06`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`file, your missing the fun`
`05:01.09`	`tsume`	`asterisk99: I wouldn't try running asterisk on FreeBSD however, Not sure how stable it would be, there are drivers however`
`05:01.11`	`Scarad`	`help.c, time.c and others (help is the last ones) there are at least 1000 lines of similar errors.`
`05:01.14`	`file[laptop]`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: I always miss the fun :(`
`05:01.15`	`russellb`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: I heard macs can only do 1 thread`
`05:01.28`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`Scarad, where is that file?`
`05:01.37`	`russellb`	`tsume: it runs fine on FreeBSD`
`05:01.37`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I don't see it in asterisk source anywhere`
`05:01.38`	`bkw_`	`ok more bullshit`
`05:01.39`	`tsume`	`asterisk99: google for xen`
`05:01.59`	`russellb`	`tsume: it's zaptel that doesn't work 100%`
`05:02.01`	`tsume`	`asterisk99: I use Xen to run Linux and NetBSD on my laptop`
`05:02.06`	`tsume`	`russellb: that is what I meant`
`05:02.11`	`tsume`	`russellb: the zap drivers`
`05:02.14`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`Scarad, and you said error.. but the line you pasted is a warning, not an error`
`05:02.29`	`tsume`	`russellb: I just use linux, I get 3-3.5k each system I sell :) so I'm happy`
`05:02.35`	`Scarad`	`c:\downloads\asterisk-1.2.4`
`05:02.38`	`russellb`	`tsume: sweet`
`05:02.58`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`Scarad, where is the file help.c`
`05:03.09`	`file[laptop]`	`help? no help for you`
`05:03.09`	`tsume`	`my monthly income tops most :P I'm just a clever and smart little furry.`
`05:03.15`	`file[laptop]`	`you pay big bucks, you get help! me help you long time`
`05:03.17`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`help file delete`
`05:03.26`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`help delete file`
`05:03.43`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`:(`
`05:03.46`	`tsume`	`startsub7`
`05:03.48`	`tsume`	`:P`
`05:03.58`	`file[laptop]`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: I'm stabbing Qwest some more for you`
`05:04.03`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`thank you`
`05:04.09`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`with a large stake please`
`05:04.15`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`poke poke poke`
`05:04.24`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`file, did you see what I was doing..`
`05:04.34`	`file[laptop]`	`where? there's lots of places to do things`
`05:04.42`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`gunna get russellb obsessed with msvc too...`
`05:04.49`	`file[laptop]`	`oh god`
`05:04.57`	`file[laptop]`	`the sickness spreads`
`05:04.59`	`russellb`	`bkw_: the mac comment was a joke people around here have been saying for a while. i have a powerbook, now :)`
`05:05.03`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I got steve underwood all excited about it.. just wait`
`05:05.03`	`abusenode`	`microsoft visual studio 7.1 is the best compiler ever.`
`05:05.14`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I like 8`
`05:05.18`	`abusenode`	`well, the only thing better is 8.`
`05:05.21`	`abusenode`	`yeah.`
`05:05.25`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and you can get 8 for free`
`05:05.28`	`file[laptop]`	`I'm still using 6 ...`
`05:05.31`	`abusenode`	`6 is trash.`
`05:05.36`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`well. the crippled version..`
`05:05.38`	`russellb`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: you will not get me obsessed with it :)`
`05:05.39`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`but it works fine`
`05:05.42`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`hehe`
`05:05.47`	`abusenode`	`free 8 doesnt have optimizing compilers.`
`05:05.49`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`just wait till you use the debugger`
`05:05.49`	`abusenode`	`last i checked anyway.`
`05:05.49`	`russellb`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: but i've been using it a lot for a school project`
`05:05.53`	`abusenode`	`which would make it utterly worthless.`
`05:06.25`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`russellb, do you have 8?`
`05:06.29`	`russellb`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: 6`
`05:06.33`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`snag 8`
`05:06.36`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`pro`
`05:06.47`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I;m sure you can find a copy.`
`05:06.56`	`russellb`	`meh ...`
`05:06.59`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`hehe`
`05:07.03`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`6 sucks`
`05:07.10`	`russellb`	`well, it's what I got from school`
`05:07.14`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`don't even bother trying to port anything to 6`
`05:07.15`	`file[laptop]`	`why in my day we used 6, and we liked it!`
`05:07.21`	`russellb`	`if you want to give me something else, then sure :)`
`05:07.35`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yes, but your an old man apparently: :P`
`05:07.43`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`hmmm`
`05:07.46`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`dunno...`
`05:08.01`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`you wanna do this..`
`05:08.04`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it could be fun`
`05:08.13`	`russellb`	`i'm sorry, i'm not familiar with this world where you have to worry about paying for software licenses`
`05:08.23`	`russellb`	`I give away my software for free`
`05:08.30`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`well.. acutally, I am a little annoyed at the moment..`
`05:08.42`	`russellb`	`ha, oooook`
`05:08.49`	`abusenode`	`i prefer to get paid for software I've writtne`
`05:08.53`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`kevin never even bothered e-mailing me back when I asked for a branch so I could contribute zaptel for win 32`
`05:08.57`	`russellb`	`abusenode: I get paid for working on asterisk`
`05:09.11`	`tsume`	`I perfer to get paid per license`
`05:09.22`	`tsume`	`it ensures customers complain when they run in to problems`
`05:09.29`	`abusenode`	`heh`
`05:09.37`	`tsume`	`its been researched, when they get something for free, they don't complain and just say it sucks`
`05:09.39`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`so.. I dunno`
`05:09.53`	`russellb`	`he has been pretty swamped lately .... i dunno`
`05:10.06`	`tsume`	`I don't have a problem with letting customers use the source, but at a bi-periodic rate`
`05:10.12`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I dunno either... but stuff like that is pretty much the reason I havn't bothered lately...`
`05:10.34`	`abusenode`	`yes, getting a "branch" is stopping you from writing code.`
`05:10.37`	`tsume`	`why would you want to run asterisk on windows?`
`05:10.40`	`tsume`	`how pointless`
`05:10.47`	`abusenode`	`pointless?`
`05:10.54`	`abusenode`	`because it makes 100x more sense there`
`05:10.56`	`tsume`	`yes, just friggen install GNOME or something`
`05:10.57`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`no.. the lack of intrest is making me spend more time on other stuff`
`05:10.58`	`abusenode`	`windows is what everyone uses`
`05:11.08`	`tsume`	`abusenode: and linux is cheaper to implement`
`05:11.12`	`abusenode`	`it is?`
`05:11.18`	`abusenode`	`only if your time is worthless, to quote an old saying`
`05:11.29`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`tsume, you missed my speach earlier about why it's wothwhile.. scrollback and read it....`
`05:11.47`	`tsume`	`abusenode: yes. Though I don't know how many wanks waste their time because they've been uninformed sticking to their holy windows`
`05:12.02`	`bkw_`	`Ok you use what works and what people want`
`05:12.03`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`ahh... it's this bs now...`
`05:12.13`	`bkw_`	`not because someone "thinks" X is better than Y`
`05:12.22`	`bkw_`	`move on.. OS arguments are pointless`
`05:12.28`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I just like software that works well...`
`05:12.41`	`russellb`	`yay VoIP`
`05:12.45`	`tsume`	`bkw_: I know linux is better than windows when implementing a system like asterisl`
`05:12.46`	`russellb`	`it's cool and stuff`
`05:12.49`	`abusenode`	`incidentally, a lot of linux software doesnt work well.`
`05:12.52`	`tsume`	`bkw_: don't even( go there with me`
`05:12.58`	`dgorski`	`I thought this was funny too: microsoft visual studio 7.1 is the best`
`05:13.04`	`bkw_`	`OS wars, Editor wars.... just cut to the chase and whip your dick out and measure up because thats all it really is...`
`05:13.10`	`russellb`	`bkw_: lol`
`05:13.10`	`h3x`	`abusenode: microsoft software dosent work on a consistant basis`
`05:13.14`	`abusenode`	`dgorski: please provide arguments as to why it isnt`
`05:13.15`	`h3x`	`its sort of like the mcdonalds plague`
`05:13.21`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`tsume, how exactly do you know that.. explain that to me`
`05:13.26`	`h3x`	`the food sucks but it consistantly sucks everywhere and any time`
`05:13.29`	`dgorski`	`because I said so, isn't that your argument too?`
`05:13.33`	`dgorski`	`;)`
`05:13.40`	`h3x`	`in the same way`
`05:13.43`	`h3x`	`not suprizingly`
`05:13.44`	`h3x`	`heh`
`05:13.54`	`tsume`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: 1) most open source software is more supported on linux/and or some unix variants`
`05:14.04`	`Scarad`	`help.c is hanging out in the editline dir...so, this is a pretty basic problem huh?`
`05:14.15`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`tsume, did you scroll back to my speach`
`05:14.15`	`tsume`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: they can just waste their time porting apps, writing on what works well makes development, not a reinvented wheel`
`05:14.21`	`tsume`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: I did, I'm not seeing it`
`05:14.34`	`tsume`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: 18:26 now, what time ref am I looking for?`
`05:15.00`	`tsume`	`if its about utilizing any of the windows features, fracking build a software bridge, dont' port asterisk`
`05:15.09`	`abusenode`	`tsume: supported? omg i dont want ot start a HOLY WAR here but, what kind of SUPPORT are you talking about? my boss can pay for a support contract to say microsoft/whoever and things will get DONE. when does SUPPORT ever get done on LINUX? "your hardware sucks \| you are stupid \| the sores is open, go fix it \| etc" are typical responses you get when asked for LINUX support.`
`05:15.27`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`1. running software on multiple platforms has a way of finding bugs that you would not easily find, but are still there onother platforms.`
`05:15.31`	`tsume`	`abusenode: supported, as it works better, faster, and has a POSIX layer`
`05:15.38`	`bkw_`	`abusenode, not true.. if you get REAL support from a REAL vendor`
`05:15.41`	`dgorski`	`OMG he's a windows weenie`
`05:15.43`	`bkw_`	`not some kid down the block`
`05:15.49`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`2. software ported to multiple platforms does not have to be huge or ugly...`
`05:15.51`	`tsume`	`abusenode: yes, linux is better supported in relation to software evolution`
`05:15.57`	`russellb`	`abusenode: so ... why exactly are you here?`
`05:16.01`	`tsume`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: and yet, we have GCC`
`05:16.01`	`abusenode`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: it usually is`
`05:16.09`	`tsume`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: Tk`
`05:16.17`	`bkw_`	`abusenode, you haven't looked that the freeswitch code then`
`05:16.18`	`dgorski`	`he's here to get you guys all excited`
`05:16.26`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`3. having a varation of compilers, and debuggers often helps you find problems much quicker.. it happened to us just last night`
`05:16.29`	`tsume`	`god, windows people are retards`
`05:16.33`	`bkw_`	`yep`
`05:16.39`	`russellb`	`agreed :-p`
`05:16.40`	`bkw_`	`MSVC debugger found the issue uber fast`
`05:16.42`	`tsume`	`porting the code to windows isn't going to help`
`05:16.46`	`dgorski`	`tsume: ;)`
`05:16.54`	`tsume`	`build a bridge to windows if you need to use LDAP or any other feature`
`05:16.55`	`abusenode`	`^ typical linux/gnu/opensource point of view`
`05:17.00`	`abusenode`	`"windows users are retards"`
`05:17.00`	`bkw_`	`no if you write code you better start out being cross platform.. not come back and add it later.. thats a bitch`
`05:17.04`	`tsume`	`abusenode: no, a typical admin pov`
`05:17.11`	`tsume`	`abusenode: not linux based at all`
`05:17.15`	`abusenode`	`get it through your heads, if windows users were RETARDS, then 99.999% of the world WOULDNT RUN WINDOWS.`
`05:17.19`	`tsume`	`abusenode: if you knew me, You'd know I'm a BSD guy`
`05:17.22`	`abusenode`	`if linux was so FUCKING GREAT then EVERYONE would be running it.`
`05:17.22`	`dgorski`	`ha ha ha`
`05:17.23`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`tsume, the fact is.. your just squaking.. I am honestly speaking from experience...`
`05:17.29`	`bkw_`	`99.9% of the world doesn't run windows`
`05:17.33`	`tsume`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: I'm speaking from better experience`
`05:17.39`	`dgorski`	`linux is not a great desktop`
`05:17.40`	`tsume`	`you don't run windows on the ROOT server`
`05:17.45`	`tsume`	`dgorski: man ubuntu`
`05:17.45`	`abusenode`	`linux is not great ANYTHING.`
`05:17.48`	`bkw_`	`dgorski, I can gree with that one`
`05:17.52`	`dgorski`	`gentoo thanks`
`05:17.55`	`russellb`	`abusenode: ... why are you here?`
`05:17.56`	`bkw_`	`I use what works best for the job`
`05:17.56`	`abusenode`	`its just mediocre everything.`
`05:17.59`	`tsume`	`linux is a good server and ubuntu distro makes an okay desktop`
`05:17.59`	`bkw_`	`be it windows or linux`
`05:18.03`	`dgorski`	`and neither is a better DESKTOP`
`05:18.07`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`we wrote a piece of software that runs on many platforms.. and it has made it better software..`
`05:18.10`	`ravenpi`	`abusenode: you're so CUTE! So, idle curiosity: how long have you been using computers? Five years? Maybe 10? Newbie.`
`05:18.18`	`tsume`	`take your idiodic views somewhere else windows people`
`05:18.21`	`tsume`	`not going to win here`
`05:18.29`	`bkw_`	`oh lord`
`05:18.33`	`dgorski`	`that's why he's here`
`05:18.50`	`bkw_`	`elite bastards`
`05:18.53`	`tehdely`	`hey look it is MY RIG http://dely.conio.net/my-rig.jpg`
`05:19.00`	`tsume`	`I'm a hardcore BSD person, even though I'm religious to BSD, I know damn well most software opensource is targetted to linux`
`05:19.00`	`tehdely`	`Look at that RIG`
`05:19.09`	`tehdely`	`It is a GOOD GAMIN' RIG`
`05:19.14`	`bkw_`	`tsume, freeswitch works on FreeBSD 6.0 last I checkced also.. and OpenBSD`
`05:19.19`	`abusenode`	`is that #GNAA on the right monitor or i'm blind?`
`05:19.23`	`dgorski`	`open source is targeted to UNIX`
`05:19.26`	`tehdely`	`abusenode: nah it's buttesnet`
`05:19.29`	`tehdely`	`same difference`
`05:19.30`	`tsume`	`bkw_: again.. I need zap drivers which work :)`
`05:19.32`	`bkw_`	`tehdely, I have a new 20 inch intel iMac`
`05:19.33`	`dgorski`	`linux is just the most widespread FREE UNIX`
`05:19.34`	`tehdely`	`and that righ tmachine is running obsd`
`05:19.40`	`dgorski`	`like Windows is the most widespread desktop`
`05:19.42`	`tsume`	`the bsd zap drivers are about 75% complete`
`05:19.42`	`tehdely`	`bkw_: good for you, how is it`
`05:19.44`	`bkw_`	`2 gigs of ram, ,500 GB hd and 256MB vram`
`05:19.45`	`tehdely`	`tsume: goo dnews`
`05:19.48`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`tsume, I have zap drivers that work on my windows box :P`
`05:19.49`	`tehdely`	`i can' twait till they are 100% complete`
`05:19.50`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`hehe`
`05:19.52`	`tehdely`	`and i never have to touch linux again`
`05:19.52`	`bkw_`	`tehdely, EXCELLENT`
`05:19.55`	`tehdely`	`god that will be fantastic`
`05:19.56`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`couldn't help it.. sorry`
`05:19.59`	`bkw_`	`fast as hell`
`05:20.13`	`tsume`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: good luck getting support from digium`
`05:20.13`	`abusenode`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: compiled using microsoft VISUAL STUDIO 7.1/8.0?`
`05:20.24`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`abusenode, what?`
`05:20.26`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`the drivers?`
`05:20.26`	`tsume`	`its funny`
`05:20.38`	`abusenode`	`yes`
`05:20.39`	`abusenode`	`what else`
`05:20.42`	`dgorski`	`classic`
`05:20.47`	`abusenode`	`did you use the latest WINDOWS 2003 SP1 DDK to compile them?`
`05:20.49`	`dgorski`	`do you guys ever talk about asterisk?`
`05:20.53`	`tsume`	`linux people whine when an app is written on windows and not on linux. Windows people bicker even louder when a linux app isn't ported to windows`
`05:20.55`	`dgorski`	`;)`
`05:20.59`	`tsume`	`ffs grow up`
`05:21.00`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`abusenode, these are..`
`05:21.02`	`tehdely`	`and i bitch when it doesn't work on BSD`
`05:21.03`	`tehdely`	`capiche?`
`05:21.06`	`abusenode`	`(listening)`
`05:21.09`	`abusenode`	`(quite interested)`
`05:21.10`	`tsume`	`tehdely: I don't`
`05:21.22`	`tsume`	`tehdely: I fucking port the app without spewing shit out my ass`
`05:21.28`	`abusenode`	`tsume: oh, please.`
`05:21.29`	`dgorski`	`woa`
`05:21.31`	`tehdely`	`tsume: i do that too`
`05:21.33`	`tehdely`	`but i really really hate autoconf`
`05:21.35`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yeah.. that's what I did too..`
`05:21.36`	`tehdely`	`and i always try to make it portable`
`05:21.37`	`tehdely`	`such pain...`
`05:21.45`	`tsume`	`tehdely: then why the hell are these windows people speaking out their ass?`
`05:21.59`	`tehdely`	`tsume: i dunno, i just tabbed over to this window in the middle of whatever's going on`
`05:22.00`	`bkw_`	`lets get this over with now`
`05:22.01`	`dgorski`	`"port to windows" usually means "add a gui"`
`05:22.03`	`tsume`	`bkw_: 7 inches`
`05:22.06`	`bkw_`	`hahahaha`
`05:22.09`	`tsume`	`dgorski: chuckle`
`05:22.11`	`tehdely`	`here here, let me change the topic`
`05:22.13`	`tehdely`	`so guys`
`05:22.14`	`tehdely`	`how about Bush`
`05:22.18`	`tehdely`	`i think he's HITLER`
`05:22.24`	`bkw_`	`good call`
`05:22.28`	`*** join/#asterisk SplasPood (n=jwb@brooklyn.paravolve.net)`
`05:22.28`	`tsume`	`I like booosh`
`05:22.30`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I said nothing about a gui`
`05:22.36`	`bkw_`	`NEXT!!!`
`05:22.38`	`tehdely`	`shame this channel is +c`
`05:22.41`	`tsume`	`I I hope he just drops a nuke on all the terrorists ;)`
`05:22.41`	`tehdely`	`i have tons of ascii swastikas`
`05:22.51`	`abusenode`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: so?`
`05:22.58`	`abusenode`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: are they WDM driver MODEL`
`05:23.01`	`tsume`	`windows people are still retarded`
`05:23.14`	`tsume`	`my windows friend is smart, he simply learned linux just for asterisk`
`05:23.19`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`abusenode, not yet.`
`05:23.21`	`tsume`	`why can't all the other retards do the same?`
`05:23.27`	`abusenode`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: orly, so how do they work please tell me`
`05:23.46`	`tehdely`	`so guys...`
`05:23.46`	`tehdely`	`abortion`
`05:23.47`	`tehdely`	`thoughts?`
`05:23.48`	`tsume`	`I guess they need their precious GUIs and are GUI whores which can't operate a simple editor like vi`
`05:23.50`	`bkw_`	`tsume, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones... their are retarded "replace with your favorite OS" users everywhere!`
`05:24.00`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`abusenode, the nice part of them so far is they require very little patching to the actual zaptel source`
`05:24.11`	`tehdely`	`stem cell research?`
`05:24.12`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`for the most part, they emmulate linux signals`
`05:24.14`	`tehdely`	`BeOS?`
`05:24.19`	`tehdely`	`tough crowd.`
`05:24.20`	`tsume`	`bkw_: heterogenous environments are good. I don't mind windows, I`
`05:24.24`	`tsume`	`'ll use and admin it`
`05:24.36`	`tsume`	`not at home, but at work yes. At home its all BSD and linux ;)`
`05:24.37`	`*** join/#asterisk kunwon1 (n=Entropy@c-67-162-54-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net)`
`05:24.38`	`tehdely`	`why mind windows`
`05:24.40`	`tehdely`	`when you can just avoid`
`05:24.40`	`tehdely`	`ever using it`
`05:24.43`	`bkw_`	`I would rather use a Mac`
`05:24.44`	`tehdely`	`that way it doesn't even bother you`
`05:24.51`	`tehdely`	`if you are in some field of endeavor that requires windows`
`05:24.52`	`tsume`	`tehdely: have to.. these proprietary apps need MSSQL`
`05:24.56`	`tehdely`	`your job is probably going to be replaced by an indian soon`
`05:24.59`	`tehdely`	`and you should find somethign more interesting`
`05:25.03`	`tehdely`	`that's what i say`
`05:25.06`	`tsume`	`bkw_: I have access to a powerbook G4 17" its awesome`
`05:25.15`	`bkw_`	`I want a new ibook when they come out`
`05:25.17`	`tsume`	`asterisk is best ported to macOSX than windows ;)`
`05:25.20`	`bkw_`	`I don't think I can pony up for a Macbook`
`05:25.29`	`russellb`	`tsume: it works on mac just fine`
`05:25.30`	`bkw_`	`Asterisk already runs on the mac`
`05:25.34`	`tsume`	`bkw_: I like the anti-trip n pull the laptop to the floor`
`05:25.37`	`tehdely`	`ass-turd-dicks`
`05:25.38`	`tsume`	`russellb: zap drivers?`
`05:25.42`	`russellb`	`tsume: no`
`05:25.45`	`tsume`	`okay :)`
`05:25.55`	`bkw_`	`so where is the Asterisk fearless leader?`
`05:25.55`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`freeswitch is working on windows, linux, bsd, and osx both x86 and ppc...`
`05:26.03`	`bkw_`	`er I mean 50th most power man in networking`
`05:26.09`	`bkw_`	`s/power/powerful/`
`05:26.13`	`tehdely`	`i'm more curious who he's with`
`05:26.15`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`asterisk can too.. just will take some more work for windows...`
`05:26.15`	`tsume`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: nobody cares about running it on windows`
`05:26.16`	`tehdely`	`;)`
`05:26.33`	`tsume`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: feel the power of pf and netfilter. Firewalls which work good by default`
`05:26.46`	`dgorski`	`why would you want to run asterisk on windows?`
`05:26.50`	`dgorski`	`that's hilarious`
`05:26.53`	`bkw_`	`we enjoy the fruits of pf daily`
`05:26.57`	`tehdely`	`pf is hot`
`05:26.57`	`bkw_`	`FUCKING HACKERS`
`05:27.04`	`bkw_`	`yes it is`
`05:27.08`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`frankly I am more interested in getting cross platform zaptel support in tree`
`05:27.19`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`before porting asterisk.`
`05:27.19`	`bkw_`	`"What do you need?.. Oh I can hook X port to Y port on Box Z.. hold please... done."`
`05:27.32`	`*** part/#asterisk Scarad (n=jporten@c-67-173-185-85.hsd1.il.comcast.net)`
`05:27.33`	`bkw_`	`its so easy to hijack traffic`
`05:27.36`	`bkw_`	`and redirect it`
`05:27.38`	`bkw_`	`muhahahah`
`05:27.40`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`because I think the portability of the hardware is more important...`
`05:27.46`	`tehdely`	`OpenBSD makes everything easy :)`
`05:27.48`	`abusenode`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: so how are these "windows drivers" working`
`05:27.50`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`but there is always the support issues`
`05:27.51`	`tehdely`	`if you're not a goddamn moron`
`05:27.58`	`bkw_`	`tehdely, it has damn good docs`
`05:28.05`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and getting digium to support it is harder.`
`05:28.10`	`tsume`	`heh`
`05:28.15`	`tsume`	`just use linux!`
`05:28.15`	`abusenode`	`are they kernel mode/wdm drivers? or some hacks of randomness?`
`05:28.29`	`abusenode`	`nobody wants to use linux`
`05:28.31`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`abusenode, what do you mean... all I can really do so far is basic test programs..`
`05:28.32`	`abusenode`	`its a nightmare to support/maintain`
`05:28.34`	`tsume`	`I am, and I'm a BSD person., Damn people's ignorance`
`05:28.39`	`bkw_`	`bsd, windows and linux are where sangoma will be.. doubt they will end up on the Mac`
`05:28.42`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`they are against the...`
`05:28.48`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`damn let me go check again`
`05:28.55`	`tehdely`	`alert: about to troll linksys tech support on buttesconf`
`05:28.58`	`tsume`	`my god, you people are the most childish and illogical on the planet`
`05:28.59`	`tehdely`	`647294@fwd ext. 791`
`05:29.00`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it's zaptel 1.0.4`
`05:29.01`	`ravenpi`	`posits that abusenode's rant against Linux is a bad Eliza implementation`
`05:29.01`	`abusenode`	`so, what handles the zaptel PCI device`
`05:29.03`	`abusenode`	`on windows`
`05:29.07`	`abusenode`	`that requires a kernel driver.`
`05:29.24`	`abusenode`	`are you using some generic driver, or accessing pci directly by ??? or how else?`
`05:29.32`	`dgorski`	`ravenpi: ha ha ha`
`05:30.30`	`abusenode`	`oh wait by zaptel do you mean the TDM cards drivers, or just generic libpri/zaptel`
`05:30.46`	`abusenode`	`without actually talking to hardware`
`05:31.09`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it's zaptel and wcfxo...`
`05:31.12`	`abusenode`	`hm`
`05:31.13`	`abusenode`	`neat.`
`05:31.14`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`kernel drivers`
`05:31.27`	`*** join/#asterisk shido6 (n=shido6@d221-68-216.commercial.cgocable.net)`
`05:31.30`	`abusenode`	`so how are you talking to hardware from userspace, if you dont have a WDM KERNEL DRIVER?`
`05:31.32`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`along with some stuff to emulate spinlocks and signals on win32`
`05:31.45`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it is a kernel driver`
`05:31.48`	`abusenode`	`ah.`
`05:31.49`	`bkw_`	`captel emulation layer`
`05:32.06`	`bkw_`	`er zaptel :P`
`05:32.06`	`SarahEmm`	`perk captel?`
`05:32.08`	`bkw_`	`or craptel`
`05:32.09`	`SarahEmm`	`awwwww.`
`05:32.13`	`SarahEmm`	`alright`
`05:32.29`	`*** join/#asterisk dseeb_ (n=dcb@58.165.245.136)`
`05:32.43`	`gbrowley`	`Is there anyway to find out what the registration string an IP phone or a softphone is sending?`
`05:32.52`	`bkw_`	`no`
`05:33.10`	`bkw_`	`you're wanting to register to some provider that doesn't give you the user/pass aren't you?`
`05:33.20`	`abusenode`	`nah he has that info.`
`05:33.25`	`abusenode`	`im surprised hes still failing`
`05:33.32`	`bkw_`	`did you set fromuser?`
`05:33.43`	`abusenode`	`ya he had it set`
`05:33.50`	`abusenode`	`http://pastebin.ca/44402 < sip.conf`
`05:33.54`	`abusenode`	`(from earlier log)`
`05:33.56`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`there are kernel space things for zaptel, wcfxo, signals,,,`
`05:33.57`	`abusenode`	`hm its deleted`
`05:33.57`	`bkw_`	`wonder if they are doing evil user agent blocking`
`05:34.02`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and some user space stuff.`
`05:34.09`	`abusenode`	`bkw_: they seemed to allow SJPhone`
`05:34.13`	`abusenode`	`and some random ippphone`
`05:34.15`	`gbrowley`	`Yep this is really starting to piss me off :(`
`05:34.17`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`tonzones.. ztcfg, a test prog..`
`05:34.17`	`abusenode`	`they could be blocking asterisk directly though.`
`05:34.26`	`abusenode`	`is the UA string configurable at runtime yet>/`
`05:34.28`	`abusenode`	`in asterisk`
`05:34.38`	`abusenode`	`if I was a voip provider I'd block asterisk too`
`05:34.50`	`bkw_`	`yes`
`05:34.53`	`bkw_`	`in the sip.conf`
`05:34.58`	`bkw_`	`its there you can set it`
`05:35.06`	`bkw_`	`I was one of the people pushing for that option`
`05:35.08`	`abusenode`	`finally, that took how many years`
`05:35.14`	`bkw_`	`its been there for over a year now`
`05:35.21`	`bkw_`	`I used to register as bkw.org/1.0`
`05:35.31`	`bkw_`	`and I showed up on the pulver talk at the first Astricon`
`05:35.36`	`bkw_`	`when ed was talking about useragents`
`05:36.01`	`abusenode`	`are session timers working yet?`
`05:36.10`	`gbrowley`	`That maybe a possibility... The chinese like to block shit...`
`05:36.38`	`gbrowley`	`abusenode: yep`
`05:36.51`	`brookshire`	`the chinese just dropped all of .net .org and .com`
`05:36.53`	`brookshire`	`:(`
`05:37.30`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`abusenode, not fully`
`05:37.39`	`gbrowley`	`lemme try to set the us string`
`05:37.50`	`bkw_`	`abusenode, nope no session timers`
`05:38.17`	`bkw_`	`brookshire, you sure about that? I understood they only added the chinese charset to them`
`05:38.56`	`ravenpi`	`Yah, that was my impression, too -- the Chinese certainly block a lot of sites, but blocking ALL non-Chinese sites... well, might be counterproductive.`
`05:39.05`	`abusenode`	`counterproductive to what`
`05:39.06`	`*** join/#asterisk jdiskywlkr (n=kvirc@ip68-0-83-251.tu.ok.cox.net)`
`05:39.13`	`abusenode`	`what is on non-chinese sites that chinese need to see?`
`05:39.16`	`ravenpi`	`Any reason to use the Internet, perhaps?`
`05:39.36`	`abusenode`	`they have their own internet.`
`05:40.03`	`ravenpi`	`Indeed. So does the Vatican. Doesn't mean that people wouldn't want to see outside of same. LIke, say, to see the Asterisk IRC channel.`
`05:40.24`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`that's what IP's are for :P`
`05:40.29`	`abusenode`	`nobody in china should be running a communist opensource application like asterisk.`
`05:40.44`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`youd be surprised...`
`05:40.46`	`abusenode`	`so they wouldn't need to be on this channel.`
`05:41.01`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I was workingon asterisk in chinese the other day`
`05:41.25`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`hell.. the guy who does spandsp lives in hong kong`
`05:41.27`	`ravenpi`	`Ah, confusing "communist" with "libertarian," again. (Though even Libertarian's just an approximation. Open Source doesn't -- despite ESR's protestations to the contrary -- subscribe to any political set.)`
`05:41.45`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`asterisk is quite popular in china`
`05:42.15`	`bkw_`	`well china just fucked up the entire network.. we now have two internets? wtf`
`05:42.27`	`bkw_`	`is this new shit optional for the people in china`
`05:43.17`	`bkw_`	`A day after this story broke, a spokesperson from the China Internet Network Information Center contradicted the CINIC's earlier statement, saying that China has not created any new top-level domains. Instead, the new Chinese-character domain names sit below the TLDs. ICANN confirmed it, saying that the original China Ministry of Information Industry press release was misinterpreted by the People's Daily. According to CINIC, China c`
`05:43.17`	`bkw_`	`urrently has no plans to create a "new root server or split off from the Internet."`
`05:43.17`	`brookshire`	`bkw: yup.. pretty sure`
`05:43.21`	`bkw_`	`nope`
`05:43.22`	`bkw_`	`WRONG`
`05:43.36`	`gbrowley`	`Nope changing UA string has no effect...`
`05:43.39`	`brookshire`	`lol.. you didn't believe me?`
`05:43.40`	`abusenode`	`fun.`
`05:43.46`	`abusenode`	`gbrowley: and you did sip reload between that?`
`05:43.49`	`bkw_`	`brookshire, no re-read that`
`05:43.54`	`bkw_`	`they can still get to any .com`
`05:43.57`	`bkw_`	`or .net or any others`
`05:44.01`	`gbrowley`	`Yep`
`05:44.12`	`bkw_`	`just the chinese char .com, .net and such are under their control`
`05:44.16`	`gbrowley`	`New UA String is "Buy American"`
`05:44.17`	`gbrowley`	`hehehe`
`05:44.53`	`abusenode`	`make it death2china`
`05:44.59`	`abusenode`	`and we'll see you ping timeout shortly.`
`05:45.10`	`gbrowley`	`No I still need to travel there frequently on business hehehe`
`05:45.10`	`brookshire`	`but they can manipulate it in any way they like`
`05:45.31`	`bkw_`	`brookshire, thats true`
`05:45.36`	`brookshire`	`Under the new system, besides "CN", three Chinese TLD names "CN", "COM" and "NET" are temporarily set.`
`05:45.54`	`bkw_`	`well let them split the internet apart`
`05:46.03`	`bkw_`	`i'm sure they will enjoy it`
`05:46.05`	`brookshire`	`that means, if a chinese company wants a .com.. they can just take it`
`05:46.23`	`dgorski`	`so what`
`05:46.29`	`brookshire`	`they do have 1.4 the population of the world.. it's kinda scary`
`05:46.30`	`bkw_`	`maybe spam will drop here now`
`05:46.35`	`brookshire`	`HAHA`
`05:46.35`	`dgorski`	`so chinese people to to microsoft.com and get a knowckoff`
`05:46.38`	`dgorski`	`ha ha to them`
`05:46.39`	`bkw_`	`and hack attempts`
`05:46.57`	`gbrowley`	`Huawei claims they "own" 26% of the softswitch market, you'd figure that someone has run into this problem before...`
`05:47.13`	`brookshire`	`i hope they start resolving everything back to 127.0.0.1`
`05:48.45`	`bkw_`	`we should do them one up`
`05:48.47`	`gbrowley`	`Hmmmm is it "Ok: that the nonce string is empty?`
`05:48.55`	`bkw_`	`everyone cut their internet access`
`05:49.05`	`bkw_`	`ifact I thinki'll just goahead and do that on our network`
`05:49.16`	`bkw_`	`:P`
`05:49.55`	`brookshire`	`nah.. we should just have everyone setup dns on alternate ports that they can use for lookups`
`05:50.13`	`brookshire`	`via tunneling or something`
`05:50.25`	`brookshire`	`not really their fault their government sucks`
`05:52.02`	`gbrowley`	`Yep the government has no clue what the fuck they're doing... The country is growing to fast for them to control, and the gap between rich and poor is widening. No middle class really in China`
`05:52.13`	`*** join/#asterisk giesen (i=giesen@dirtypackets.net)`
`05:52.21`	`giesen`	`Can someone help me with a zaptel issue?`
`05:52.33`	`tsume`	`gbrowley: are you talking about the U.S.?`
`05:52.33`	`giesen`	`zttool sees my x100p clone`
`05:52.39`	`giesen`	`but asterisk shows no zap channels`
`05:52.41`	`abusenode`	`keyword: clone`
`05:52.42`	`gbrowley`	`:) No China`
`05:52.51`	`abusenode`	`support opensores, buy digium hardware.`
`05:52.53`	`abusenode`	`problem solved`
`05:53.07`	`tsume`	`gbrowley: you dot' realize how much the description sounded like the U.S.`
`05:53.12`	`tsume`	`*don't`
`05:53.13`	`giesen`	`obviously this thing works with asterisk`
`05:53.18`	`giesen`	`otherwise it'd be pretty useless`
`05:53.25`	`giesen`	`and Im sure I had it working with 1.0.8`
`05:53.31`	`giesen`	`but I just upgraded to 1.2.4`
`05:53.35`	`gbrowley`	`tsume: no comment hehehehe`
`05:53.46`	`tsume`	`gbrowley: I live in the U.S. I know :)`
`05:53.56`	`tsume`	`gbrowley: Alaska specifically :)`
`05:54.04`	`tsume`	`I live in the most beautiful state ;)`
`05:54.21`	`gbrowley`	`I'm from Canada, but have been living in Hong Kong for the past 18 months.`
`05:54.41`	`tsume`	`gbrowley: how is it? :)`
`05:54.55`	`gbrowley`	`I love the weather...`
`05:55.04`	`tsume`	`gbrowley: yeah?`
`05:55.08`	`tsume`	`gbrowley: big city area?`
`05:55.23`	`gbrowley`	`but its one of the mnost expensive cities in the world to lve in which sucks big time`
`05:55.38`	`gbrowley`	`from Toronto`
`05:55.42`	`tsume`	`gbrowley: I live in a small city and still make my 3k a month`
`05:55.56`	`tsume`	`I'm an extroverted nerd though. Most are not`
`05:56.40`	`delmar`	`this might be a quick one for anyone watching... I have a retard that has some SIP software they havent uninstalled which is still trying to login .. repeatedly... causing messages on the console... is there a quick way within * to ignore the reg attempts from that IP?`
`05:56.51`	`delmar`	`Mar 3 21:54:42 NOTICE[1071]: chan_sip.c:10817 handle_request_register: Registration from '<sip:123@123.123.123.123>' failed for '12.123.12.123' - Wrong password <---- anoying`
`05:56.58`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`delmar, null route him`
`05:57.05`	`dgorski`	`ipchains`
`05:57.06`	`delmar`	`thats not within * now is it :P`
`05:57.10`	`abusenode`	`delmar: nullroute their IP`
`05:57.12`	`dgorski`	`ooh, null route - nice`
`05:57.38`	`tsume`	`delmar: use netfilter and block him`
`05:57.43`	`tsume`	`delmar: aka the firewall`
`05:57.44`	`delmar`	`that was my first thought.. but no`
`05:57.50`	`tsume`	`delmar: it works, yes`
`05:57.58`	`tsume`	`delmar: if it isn't, then you are screwing up the rules`
`05:57.58`	`delmar`	`they will change IP's in a few days`
`05:58.06`	`delmar`	`can i set something to stop reporting wrong password attempts?`
`05:58.11`	`abusenode`	`sure`
`05:58.12`	`tsume`	`delmar: then block by content`
`05:58.13`	`abusenode`	`take it out of the sores`
`05:58.14`	`abusenode`	`and recompile`
`05:58.22`	`gbrowley`	`tsume: its a funny place to live... I commute, sort of, between Hong Kong and Shenzhen China on a fairly regular basis as most of the factories we deal are there.`
`05:58.40`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`delmar, change his pass on your system to make it coorect`
`05:58.43`	`gbrowley`	`tsume: I don't miss the cold weather though`
`05:58.43`	`tsume`	`gbrowley: so, you see many child sweat shops?`
`05:59.04`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`delmar, you can crank down the logs.. but then you won't see those for anyone`
`05:59.25`	`delmar`	`MikeJ[Laptop], yeah then put them in a useless context :P thought of that too .... might have to.`
`05:59.32`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`if you add a peer for the user ....`
`05:59.37`	`tsume`	`gbrowley: heh. When I get set, get a company, hire people.. I'll just friggen buy a house somewhere in subtropical japan ;)`
`05:59.39`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yeah.. just what I was thinking`
`05:59.51`	`abusenode`	`why is someone trying to register on your sip server?`
`06:00.04`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`delmar, do you know who it is?`
`06:00.13`	`delmar`	`yup`
`06:00.14`	`gbrowley`	`tsume: no, although I consider most of the factories I've seen to be sweatshops... The average factory worker makes around 2000 RMB or less per month (about 245 USD)`
`06:00.16`	`tsume`	`gbrowley: okinawa looks nice, probably tourist infested like the place I am now though. Can't be worse :)`
`06:00.20`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`tell them to stop`
`06:01.25`	`tsume`	`I laugh at people. I'm on permanent vacation. People spend their whole life earning money to take a supreme vacation. I live it everyday :)`
`06:01.41`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and sit at your computer?`
`06:01.55`	`tsume`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: I work outside, I'm a software engineer ;)`
`06:02.13`	`tsume`	`computer repair, asterisk boxen, software engineering..`
`06:02.44`	`tsume`	`next software project needs to be a app which works on windows and Macosx. so it will be made using ruby + Tk :)`
`06:03.04`	`tsume`	`I'll probably sale about 200 copies.`
`06:03.09`	`tsume`	`with support contracts :)`
`06:03.51`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`good stuff`
`06:04.07`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and it won't be ugly code either, will it?`
`06:04.12`	`tsume`	`pays really well unlike working on opensource software porting it to windows`
`06:04.21`	`tsume`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: ruby makes code pretty :)`
`06:04.37`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`that was a poke at the guy saying cross platfrom makes ugly`
`06:04.39`	`brookshire`	`but it's ruby!`
`06:04.40`	`abusenode`	`ruby who the hell uses that`
`06:04.47`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I get paid for the stuff I do...`
`06:04.47`	`abusenode`	`ruby on rails more like ruby on fales amirite`
`06:04.51`	`*** join/#asterisk stkn (n=stkn@gentoo/developer/pdpc.active.stkn)`
`06:04.55`	`tsume`	`I don't like ruby on rails`
`06:05.01`	`tsume`	`the framework sucks donkey calls`
`06:05.03`	`tsume`	`*balls`
`06:05.04`	`brookshire`	`ror!`
`06:05.18`	`*** join/#asterisk slePP (n=slepp@S0106000f663692da.ed.shawcable.net)`
`06:05.22`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I've looked at it.. don't really get the hype..`
`06:05.23`	`tsume`	`I can't ever use RoR, because none of my apps are web and database centric`
`06:05.33`	`tsume`	`all my apps are web and computer control centric`
`06:05.42`	`brookshire`	`just use perl :)`
`06:05.46`	`tsume`	`the concepts are nice, practicallity in my field is 0%`
`06:05.59`	`tsume`	`brookshire: I'll use perl if I ever need to obfuscate my code`
`06:06.22`	`tsume`	`ruby is a better choice.`
`06:06.23`	`brookshire`	`bah.. it's all about mindset`
`06:06.32`	`brookshire`	`perl can be pretty`
`06:06.40`	`tsume`	`brookshire: I come from the land of C.. perl is ugly`
`06:07.39`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and C isn't?`
`06:07.39`	`*** join/#asterisk slePP (n=slepp@S0106000f663692da.ed.shawcable.net)`
`06:07.51`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`well..`
`06:08.06`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I guess it can be pretty.. but C is really easy to make ugly`
`06:08.12`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and most is`
`06:08.14`	`tsume`	`C is good for OS work and services which need to be really fast`
`06:08.22`	`tsume`	`Java is the ultimate slow bloat language`
`06:08.25`	`brookshire`	`and gtk!`
`06:08.25`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I agree`
`06:08.26`	`brookshire`	`:D`
`06:08.48`	`brookshire`	`java is only slow if you don't know how to make it fast`
`06:08.54`	`brookshire`	`:)`
`06:08.55`	`tsume`	`C++ is just okay. C++ isn't very portable through compilers. the ISO is confusing for the compiler manufactures`
`06:09.06`	`brookshire`	`java is definately faster than ruby`
`06:09.13`	`tsume`	`but,, how can you really screw up the C spec, unless you're Borland! :D`
`06:09.20`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`hehe`
`06:09.21`	`tsume`	`brookshire: sometimes, yes`
`06:09.24`	`gbrowley`	`WWW Auth? can someone explain what it is and can asterisk do it?`
`06:09.29`	`tsume`	`brookshire: development time, no`
`06:09.45`	`brookshire`	`whatever.. java was made for speed in development`
`06:09.53`	`tsume`	`brookshire: ruby is a pure OO language. You can modify anything, trust the programmer.`
`06:10.02`	`brookshire`	`so is java?`
`06:10.03`	`tsume`	`brookshire: java was made to make developing time longer`
`06:10.08`	`tsume`	`brookshire: hell no`
`06:10.10`	`abusenode`	`ruby was created by the filthy japanese. that alone is enough reason to NEVER use it.`
`06:10.11`	`tehdely`	`no.`
`06:10.17`	`tehdely`	`java was designed to create paint by numbers programming`
`06:10.17`	`tsume`	`brookshire: you need to learn both, ruby will spoil you`
`06:10.21`	`tehdely`	`that could be effortlessly farmed out to india`
`06:10.32`	`tehdely`	`if you componentize everything to shit and reduce everything to tons of tiny menial button-pushing tasks`
`06:10.33`	`abusenode`	`anyone who has ever looked at japanese-written software would agree.`
`06:10.36`	`tehdely`	`you can get sanjay to do them for you`
`06:10.37`	`tehdely`	`for cheap.`
`06:10.42`	`tsume`	`abusenode: you mean you aren't a otaku! omfg`
`06:10.54`	`tsume`	`abusenode: you're an idiot`
`06:11.02`	`brookshire`	`tsume: i know ruby :)`
`06:11.08`	`tsume`	`abusenode: there are plenty of good japanese software, they write many scheme compilers too`
`06:11.14`	`tehdely`	`ruby is awesome`
`06:11.17`	`abusenode`	`lol scheme`
`06:11.18`	`tsume`	`brookshire: yeah right :P`
`06:11.19`	`SarahEmm`	`sivana, you around?`
`06:11.20`	`abusenode`	`dude you cant be fucking serious.`
`06:11.33`	`abusenode`	`stop with ancient worthless languages.`
`06:11.33`	`tsume`	`abusenode: I am. look at most of the senior projects`
`06:11.43`	`brookshire`	`but i know i can do anything in java faster than in any language`
`06:11.53`	`tsume`	`abusenode: hey, writing the scheme compiler is better than what most of these dumb ass computer scientists do`
`06:12.11`	`tsume`	`brookshire: only because you're inexperienced ;) give it time`
`06:12.11`	`abusenode`	`sorry, i could care less what happens at a school.`
`06:12.15`	`abusenode`	`i was done with that shit years ago.`
`06:12.22`	`abusenode`	`i dont understand what youre getting at.`
`06:12.30`	`tehdely`	`brookshire: it is impossible to do anything faster in java.`
`06:12.39`	`tsume`	`tehdely: agreed`
`06:12.52`	`brookshire`	`tehdely: it's called an ide`
`06:12.54`	`abusenode`	`tehdely is a troll`
`06:12.56`	`tsume`	`phoney benchmarks sayng C is slower than java is comparing apples to oranges`
`06:12.57`	`abusenode`	`java is great`
`06:12.59`	`abusenode`	`eclipse fucking rules.`
`06:13.00`	`tehdely`	`abusenode: that's true but i'm telling the truth.`
`06:13.07`	`brookshire`	`ruby has no ide`
`06:13.09`	`tehdely`	`java is about more code`
`06:13.10`	`tehdely`	`not less code`
`06:13.14`	`abusenode`	`ruby is shit, shit syntax, shit performance, shit langauge, shit <whatever>`
`06:13.14`	`tehdely`	`brookshire: that's because you don't need one`
`06:13.21`	`tehdely`	`with ruby you're busy actually writing your app`
`06:13.24`	`tsume`	`C using what compiler again? "well just C" God damn dude, you're a fucking moron`
`06:13.25`	`tehdely`	`instead of writing filler boilerplate code`
`06:13.30`	`tsume`	`abusenode: you're a troll`
`06:13.36`	`abusenode`	`with ruby youre busy submitting to a filthy japanese design`
`06:13.39`	`*** join/#asterisk drewr (n=drew@pdpc/supporter/active/drewr)`
`06:13.42`	`tsume`	`abusenode: go suck your moms tit already ;)`
`06:13.43`	`tehdely`	`abusenode: that's racist; you are a racist`
`06:14.04`	`tsume`	`tehdely: he is jealous they are smarter than him :)`
`06:14.38`	`tsume`	`abusenode わばか`
`06:14.43`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`3 trolls walk into a bar!`
`06:14.47`	`tehdely`	`ouch!`
`06:14.48`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`OUCH!`
`06:14.49`	`tsume`	`ke ke ke ke`
`06:14.49`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`heh`
`06:14.49`	`abusenode`	`please take your shitjis on irc elsewhere`
`06:14.51`	`tehdely`	`HA, BEAT YOU`
`06:14.59`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`damn`
`06:15.02`	`tehdely`	`abusenode: if you've got your panties in a bunch, go bother lilo`
`06:15.11`	`tehdely`	`i'm sure he has nothing better to do than care`
`06:15.12`	`tehdely`	`really, i am sure`
`06:15.15`	`tehdely`	`what a pathetic human being`
`06:15.30`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`panties.. ok.. for you nerds out there.. has anyone seen the http panties onthink geek`
`06:15.37`	`tehdely`	`stop me before i get drunker`
`06:15.40`	`tsume`	`abusenode: ばかばかばかばか`
`06:15.44`	`*** part/#asterisk drewr (n=drew@pdpc/supporter/active/drewr)`
`06:15.54`	`*** part/#asterisk dseeb_ (n=dcb@58.165.245.136)`
`06:16.08`	`dgorski`	`"eclipse rules", what about MSVC ?`
`06:16.12`	`dgorski`	`I'm confused`
`06:16.13`	`tehdely`	`what about vim.`
`06:16.19`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`emacs?`
`06:16.21`	`tehdely`	`seriously, IDEs solve a problem that doesn't need to be solved`
`06:16.22`	`tehdely`	`with a good language`
`06:16.22`	`abusenode`	`msvc doesnt do java?`
`06:16.24`	`h3x`	`ive got a great idea`
`06:16.29`	`ravenpi`	`MIkeJ: THAT'S NOT RIGHT`
`06:16.29`	`tehdely`	`if your shitty ide is autogenerating code for you`
`06:16.31`	`h3x`	`i have moviefones number here in vegas 7773456`
`06:16.33`	`tehdely`	`it means that a better language doesn't need it.`
`06:16.43`	`tehdely`	`java is for failures and punjabs.`
`06:16.45`	`*** join/#asterisk L\|NUX (n=linux@202.5.145.56)`
`06:16.49`	`h3x`	`im gonna answer the phone just for the hell of it with a indian-english accent and say "thank you for calling moviefone, what theater please"`
`06:16.53`	`tehdely`	`k watching tv bbl`
`06:17.07`	`h3x`	`and be like ... "surely you know its cheaper to hire indians than have computers answer for you these days"`
`06:17.39`	`abusenode`	`tehdely: k, keep editing your project with 10000 source files and multiple project dependencies with vim and make`
`06:17.48`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`heh`
`06:17.49`	`tehdely`	`huh`
`06:17.51`	`tehdely`	`there is no make involved`
`06:17.53`	`tehdely`	`in ruby.`
`06:17.55`	`tehdely`	`unless you mean rake`
`06:17.57`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`take it easy with the racist stuff please...`
`06:18.16`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it's getting rude`
`06:18.26`	`tehdely`	`k would you prefer classism`
`06:18.31`	`tehdely`	`or perhaps some homophobia`
`06:18.33`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yes.`
`06:18.34`	`tehdely`	`i've got a nice bag of isms here`
`06:18.35`	`dgorski`	`I didn't like eclipse, I prefer netbeans - probably because I used it first`
`06:18.37`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`both blease`
`06:18.41`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`please`
`06:18.45`	`tehdely`	`ok`
`06:18.46`	`tehdely`	`java is for FAGGOTS`
`06:18.49`	`abusenode`	`lol.`
`06:18.50`	`dgorski`	`wow`
`06:18.51`	`tehdely`	`FAGGOTS who suck COCK`
`06:18.57`	`dgorski`	`now you sound like abusenode`
`06:18.58`	`tehdely`	`and who are poor`
`06:19.01`	`brookshire`	`dgorski: wow.. finally.. someone else who likes netbeans :)`
`06:19.02`	`tehdely`	`also they are crippled`
`06:19.04`	`brookshire`	`i thought i was the only one`
`06:19.22`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`heh.. brookshire likes beans....`
`06:19.22`	`tehdely`	`ass turd dicks`
`06:19.22`	`dgorski`	`how can you not like a java ide written in java`
`06:19.27`	`dgorski`	`(it runs on Linux too)`
`06:19.33`	`tehdely`	`dgorski: hitler ran linux`
`06:19.41`	`brookshire`	`eclipse is written in java`
`06:19.49`	`dgorski`	`really?`
`06:19.53`	`brookshire`	`yeah`
`06:19.53`	`tehdely`	`yep.`
`06:19.55`	`dgorski`	`linux 0.0.0 ?`
`06:20.02`	`tehdely`	`hitler mastered time travel`
`06:20.07`	`dgorski`	`ahh`
`06:20.09`	`tehdely`	`it was to be the cornerstone of the 4th reich`
`06:20.15`	`tehdely`	`also the -122347234 * 10^2348734th reich`
`06:20.16`	`dgorski`	`well that makes perfect sense`
`06:20.19`	`dgorski`	`did he use MSVC ?`
`06:20.23`	`tehdely`	`no`
`06:20.25`	`tehdely`	`MSVC is jewish`
`06:20.31`	`dgorski`	`ha ha`
`06:20.42`	`brookshire`	`eclipse is written in java + swt`
`06:20.43`	`abusenode`	`was msvc involved in 9/11?`
`06:20.51`	`tehdely`	`yes.`
`06:20.54`	`tehdely`	`the mossad engineered MSVC`
`06:20.54`	`brookshire`	`swt is basically c gui objects`
`06:20.56`	`abusenode`	`i knew it`
`06:20.57`	`tehdely`	`which engineerd 9/11`
`06:21.03`	`dgorski`	`can't type when I laughing that much`
`06:21.04`	`tehdely`	`it's all a giant ZOG plot`
`06:21.16`	`dgorski`	`more gui crap`
`06:21.25`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`what's a gui?`
`06:21.28`	`[av]bani`	`oh joy, more twits`
`06:21.34`	`[av]bani`	`just what we needed`
`06:21.34`	`dgorski`	`I don't write guis - probably why I don't like eclipse then eh?`
`06:21.38`	`brookshire`	`mike: the thing your mouse uses ;)`
`06:21.48`	`[av]bani`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: looks like my /ignore is going to get worn out :\|`
`06:21.59`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`brookshire, a squeky wheel?`
`06:22.04`	`*** join/#asterisk mishehu (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net)`
`06:22.06`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`[av]bani, heh...`
`06:22.07`	`brookshire`	`yes!`
`06:22.11`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`mishehu!!!`
`06:22.14`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`wassup boi`
`06:22.30`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it's troll night in #asterisk.. welcome`
`06:22.41`	`brookshire`	`haha`
`06:22.44`	`brookshire`	`ding ding`
`06:22.46`	`tehdely`	`interesting comparison of IDEs: http://blogs.on.nimp.org/~pragmatic/show/post/#3`
`06:22.46`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`chells.shavedgoats.net...`
`06:22.47`	`brookshire`	`round 1`
`06:22.48`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`??`
`06:23.08`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`that's funny I think`
`06:23.53`	`dgorski`	`ouch - I did not see that coming`
`06:24.12`	`brookshire`	`you're the man now dog!`
`06:24.20`	`tehdely`	`brookshire: i know you clicked`
`06:24.24`	`brookshire`	`:D`
`06:24.25`	`tehdely`	`because you have a huge hard-on for IDEs`
`06:24.30`	`tehdely`	`just like my massive hardon for RAHOWA`
`06:24.32`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`brookshire, did you really just say taht`
`06:24.42`	`gbrowley`	`Thanks everyone for your all your help!`
`06:24.45`	`*** part/#asterisk gbrowley (n=gbrowley@221.127.55.24)`
`06:24.47`	`tehdely`	`any time`
`06:24.55`	`brookshire`	`mike: http://ytmnd.com`
`06:24.58`	`dgorski`	`glad I don't actually use outlook`
`06:25.15`	`brookshire`	`wooo.`
`06:25.17`	`brookshire`	`php errors`
`06:25.24`	`brookshire`	`that's hot`
`06:26.19`	`brookshire`	`teh: yeah.. thank god i have a one click xkill :)`
`06:26.29`	`brookshire`	`makes it really easy to stop stupid stuff`
`06:26.43`	`*** join/#asterisk agileman (n=dbr@tor/session/x-865750ae7ad20455)`
`06:27.05`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`alt-F4`
`06:27.07`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`:P`
`06:27.08`	`agileman`	`hello at all`
`06:27.12`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`OS WARS`
`06:27.16`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`agileman, hello.`
`06:27.23`	`agileman`	`hi MikeJ`
`06:27.46`	`agileman`	`i am having dialplan problem is anyone can help ??`
`06:27.46`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`what's up`
`06:27.56`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`nope.. no one here can, sorry`
`06:28.06`	`agileman`	`is this channel for asterix pbx ?`
`06:28.09`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yep`
`06:28.14`	`agileman`	`why not can help ?!`
`06:28.17`	`agileman`	`: (`
`06:28.31`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`because we don't know what your problem is`
`06:28.37`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`you have not said`
`06:28.54`	`agileman`	`oh i am sorry i want to make positive can help ;)`
`06:29.05`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`heh`
`06:29.08`	`agileman`	`i try to have fastagi`
`06:29.10`	`agileman`	`for my php`
`06:29.11`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`what can we do for you`
`06:29.25`	`agileman`	`but when i call it gives all circuit busy`
`06:29.42`	`agileman`	`here : i paste`
`06:29.49`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`pastebin please`
`06:29.53`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`~pastebin`
`06:29.55`	`jbot`	`somebody said pastebin was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
`06:29.55`	`agileman`	`http://montspace.com/pastebin/&2834728347`
`06:30.03`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`thanks`
`06:31.02`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`ummm`
`06:31.03`	`agileman`	`some advice anyoune has ?`
`06:31.16`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`dude.. that link goes to child pornography`
`06:31.23`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`that's not right`
`06:31.29`	`agileman`	`!`
`06:31.40`	`agileman`	`ok here i paste for you`
`06:32.02`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`no thanks.. I'vee seen enough...`
`06:32.57`	`[av]bani`	`hah`
`06:33.20`	`brookshire`	`man.. what the hell`
`06:33.40`	`h3x`	`maybe he forgot a digit in his paste? i hope`
`06:33.43`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`he drops a kiddi porn link inthe chan then floods himself out of the chan wth?`
`06:36.19`	`[av]bani`	`aha... he was using tor`
`06:36.24`	`[av]bani`	`no wonder`
`06:37.10`	`[av]bani`	`anyone with ops?`
`06:37.18`	`xtrvd`	`That's nuts...`
`06:37.22`	`xtrvd`	`=\|`
`06:41.40`	`[av]bani`	`good riddance`
`06:42.40`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`[av]bani. don't hold back... just say it the way you really feel`
`06:43.14`	`[av]bani`	`:)`
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`06:52.47`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`SHHHHHHH`
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`06:56.26`	`littleball`	`hello, i encount a problem when the system try to collect dtmf tone through pstn voip providers. the dtmf collected is not correct.`
`07:10.52`	`FuriousGeorge`	`[av]bani: did you port valet parking hack to 1.2 yet?`
`07:16.11`	`[av]bani`	`FuriousGeorge: ?`
`07:18.38`	`FuriousGeorge`	`you linked to it yesterday`
`07:18.54`	`FuriousGeorge`	`app_keysystem hack. BLA system`
`07:19.02`	`FuriousGeorge`	`the thread on digium forums`
`07:19.20`	`FuriousGeorge`	`works w/ 1.1 not 1.2`
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`07:24.14`	`Niveous`	`anyone know who to install asterisk@home on top a full version of CentOS`
`07:24.21`	`Niveous`	`who - how`
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`07:32.33`	`[av]bani`	`FuriousGeorge: hmm.. nope havent tried`
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`07:33.14`	`*** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source PBX -=- http://www.asterisk.org -=- Asterisk 1.2.5 released!`
`07:33.30`	`TangoDown`	`DCC SEND Irc�Crash�Initialized.`
`07:34.17`	`littleball`	`hello, who can help me test my callback system?`
`07:34.24`	`littleball`	`misscall callback system`
`07:34.48`	`Niveous`	`area code ?`
`07:34.56`	`littleball`	`65, singapore`
`07:35.12`	`littleball`	`misscall is free of charge`
`07:35.42`	`Niveous`	`never heard of it`
`07:35.54`	`littleball`	`Niveous, which country are you from?`
`07:36.08`	`Niveous`	`canada`
`07:36.27`	`littleball`	`callback is no need for canada`
`07:37.09`	`Niveous`	`ok`
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`08:04.32`	`delmar`	`Hey everyone.. I have a little problem that I am scratching my head over... what could be making voice prompts "stutter" or .. get choppy.. its quite randome, and while the test scenario is ..outside/TDm call ---> DID provider ---> SIP/g729 ---> * IVR, I get the feeling its just the IVR at this stage because calls that are handed from the IVR to their destination.... are generally fine`
`08:04.59`	`delmar`	`if it was IAX.. i would be looking at jutterbuffer ... but its SIP.`
`08:06.06`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`is the destination off the same box as the ivr?`
`08:06.28`	`delmar`	`yes. the destination is a SIP client registered on the * box.`
`08:06.41`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yeah.. and they are real sip hardphones?`
`08:06.43`	`delmar`	`about another 150ms away.`
`08:06.48`	`delmar`	`yes.`
`08:06.52`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`it;s jitter`
`08:07.05`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`your phones have a jitterbuffer`
`08:07.14`	`delmar`	`yeah.. my thoughts exactly.`
`08:07.24`	`delmar`	`but ... there is no jitterbuffer for SIP is there.`
`08:07.34`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`there is..`
`08:07.41`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`in the bug tracker..`
`08:07.42`	`delmar`	`ok. sec`
`08:07.50`	`delmar`	`oh?`
`08:07.51`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I think there is a test branch for it.`
`08:07.57`	`delmar`	`hrm`
`08:07.57`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`not sure how well it works`
`08:08.14`	`GerbilWrk`	`anyone familiar with the t400p's? I can not get this PRI to come up and i'm getting desperate`
`08:08.22`	`delmar`	`ok.. its an option anyway... as i say.. i woulda immediatly gone for jitterbuffer but its SIP not iax.`
`08:09.07`	`delmar`	`GerbilWrk, with I had the oportunity to play with anything other than a PSTN .. then id have some Exp and be able to help :P GL with that man.`
`08:09.11`	`delmar`	`wish*`
`08:09.49`	`delmar`	`MikeJ[Laptop] ok ill see if I can get the DID provider to setup some IAX. that would be the best way.`
`08:09.50`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`T400p?`
`08:10.01`	`GerbilWrk`	`yea`
`08:10.02`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`TDM400p?`
`08:10.15`	`delmar`	`not for a PRi..`
`08:10.17`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`TE40xP?`
`08:10.26`	`GerbilWrk`	`it's an older T400P`
`08:10.39`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`is that what they were actually called...?`
`08:10.47`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I thought that were TE400P's?`
`08:10.47`	`GerbilWrk`	`supposedly`
`08:10.51`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`well.. whatever.`
`08:11.05`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`so what's wrong with it?`
`08:11.17`	`GerbilWrk`	`similair to the TE405P`
`08:11.31`	`GerbilWrk`	`well, the T1 comes up, but i'm getting no d-channel`
`08:11.51`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`is it configured right? ;)`
`08:11.56`	`delmar`	`positive the telco done everything correctly their end?`
`08:12.00`	`GerbilWrk`	`god I hope so`
`08:12.03`	`GerbilWrk`	`I am the telco`
`08:12.05`	`delmar`	`i suppose u can never be sure lol`
`08:12.07`	`delmar`	`LOL`
`08:12.09`	`delmar`	`u are the telco...`
`08:12.11`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`delmar, I'll answer thjat question for him.. NO`
`08:12.19`	`delmar`	`yep. LOL`
`08:12.20`	`delmar`	`:P`
`08:12.29`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`:P`
`08:12.39`	`GerbilWrk`	`it's coming from a Telica Plexus 9000 softswitch via DS3, to a Mux, converting to DS0's, plugged straight into the card`
`08:12.42`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`so what's it....`
`08:12.44`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`ij,`
`08:12.45`	`delmar`	`GerbilWrk, how long ago did u sleep?`
`08:12.51`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`ummm`
`08:12.54`	`GerbilWrk`	`it's been a while`
`08:12.56`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`to DS0[s?`
`08:13.11`	`GerbilWrk`	`DS1`
`08:13.14`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`ok..`
`08:13.21`	`GerbilWrk`	`and it's been over 24 hours :)`
`08:13.23`	`delmar`	`GerbilWrk, there i your first problem. :P. go rest then it will fix itself within 5mins tomorrow :)`
`08:13.26`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`so it's t1, not e1....`
`08:13.31`	`GerbilWrk`	`correct`
`08:13.45`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and you know for sure what chan the dchan is?`
`08:14.03`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`are you configing both ends?`
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`08:14.15`	`GerbilWrk`	`yes`
`08:14.18`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`or is somone telling you the conf from the plexus?`
`08:14.21`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`ok`
`08:14.33`	`GerbilWrk`	`the plexus is configured just like every other link we've done`
`08:14.45`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`ok...`
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`08:14.49`	`GerbilWrk`	`i can plug the line into a 3Com NBX and it takes calls`
`08:14.59`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`what pri proto?`
`08:15.00`	`GerbilWrk`	`i plug it into the asterisk box and get nothing`
`08:16.16`	`GerbilWrk`	`ESF, B8ZS, AIS`
`08:18.20`	`GerbilWrk`	`is that what you needed?`
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`08:25.26`	`encode`	`hi. i'm running a fresh install of aah 2.6 - when i add the open source g729 codec, asterisk won't run unless i remove the app_rxfax.so and app_txfax.so modules. Has anyone got any idea on what i should do to fix this?`
`08:26.44`	`brookshire`	`that's strange.. never heard of that happening`
`08:27.48`	`encode`	`its happened when using the digium g729 codec, properly licensed, on another a@h install too`
`08:27.56`	`encode`	`i think i did the same thing to fix it`
`08:29.08`	`encode`	`when starting with -vvvgc the usual info appears, then asterisk dies with the following`
`08:29.12`	`encode`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:29.14`	`encode`	`Junk at the beginning 49443303`
`08:29.17`	`encode`	`Warning, flexibel rate not heavily tested!`
`08:29.36`	`delmar`	`hey after I updated my * to the latest SVN on my personal * box, my voicemail broke... its as if its trying to access the "default" context's voicemail all the time.. the SIP phone im calling from is in the [local] context.. and i have a [local] context in voicemail.conf... but still.. i get like... Incorrect password '1234' for user '7777' (context = default).`
`08:29.46`	`delmar`	`so something changed... and it wasnt my configs...`
`08:30.41`	`encode`	`is there anything else i need to install in a default a@h install to make g729 work?`
`08:30.42`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`svn diff :P`
`08:30.50`	`delmar`	`haha`
`08:30.50`	`delmar`	`:P`
`08:31.08`	`delmar`	`encode, priv chat.`
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`08:35.40`	`thomasp`	`hallo leutz`
`08:38.23`	`GerbilWrk`	`seems my problem was with the zaptel drivers`
`08:38.31`	`GerbilWrk`	`upgraded to a newer version and it works, for now`
`08:50.41`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`heh`
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`09:53.00`	`RoyK`	`http://karlsbakk.net/fun/Helpdesk.wav`
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`10:20.14`	`daurnimator`	`hi all`
`10:29.33`	`thomasp`	`hi`
`10:29.40`	`thomasp`	`still sleeping?`
`10:33.46`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`When you run 'asterisk -r' , does it print the correct PID of the main asterisk process?`
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`10:48.21`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`stoffell, regarding dsslive, did you get a version of Asterisk with it?`
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`10:51.27`	`stoffell`	`tzafrir_laptop, hi, i've been playing with dsslive and adding an asterisk layer, yes`
`10:52.03`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`stoffell, do you want to use it as a live CD or as a flash?`
`10:53.41`	`stoffell`	`tzafrir_laptop, in the ideal case, both. would be great to run a live cd but i'm also planning on trying it with flash (or even ide-flash)`
`10:53.54`	`stoffell`	`seems like a great platform to do it on, don't you think?`
`10:54.34`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`for flash: how do you intend to allow updating the system?`
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`10:55.17`	`stoffell`	`tzafrir_laptop, maybe by updating only specific "layers"`
`10:55.27`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Unionfs basicaly means forgetting all the changes at reboot. Nice for a demo system, but impractical at production, unless you have a way of explicitly remembering changes`
`10:55.45`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`What do you mean by "layer"?`
`10:56.33`	`stoffell`	`tzafrir_laptop, i mean the "modules", i don't know if it's "practical" but I think it can be tested`
`10:57.00`	`stoffell`	`tzafrir_laptop, you already have a "running" pbx-system with flash, right?`
`10:57.08`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`yes`
`10:57.21`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`As I mentioned, we basically use flash-hybrid`
`10:57.21`	`stoffell`	`okay, i recall your name, we're reseller ;)`
`10:58.10`	`stoffell`	`okay. hmm, i like the concept`
`10:59.05`	`stoffell`	`tzafrir_laptop, did you see this, but it's in italian: http://soleup.eup.uva.es/mario/post/1/310`
`10:59.44`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Gives me an error`
`11:00.20`	`stoffell`	`oh, me too.. but i still have it opened from yesterday, on another pc :)`
`11:01.02`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`what is it?`
`11:01.41`	`stoffell`	`i will save it, and place it somewhere. it's about another 'approach' for live-cd's, but i think it can also be used for flash/ide/..`
`11:03.54`	`stoffell`	`http://stoffell.be/italian/index.htm`
`11:04.35`	`stoffell`	`tzafrir_laptop, how do you do "updates" now, with your current system?`
`11:05.41`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Basically: mount the root read-write, update, and sync back changes`
`11:06.01`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`And it's far from trivial`
`11:06.47`	`stoffell`	`oh, i see.. hm, yes, so you're looking for better ways also..`
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`11:08.08`	`stoffell`	`tzafrir_laptop, I want it to be "maintainable" and usable for flash/IDE (and maybe CD)`
`11:09.38`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`stoffell, check http://rapid.dotsrc.org/ . Specifically the "unstable" directory. check the packages "rapidbox-script" and "flashybrid"`
`11:13.29`	`stoffell`	`tzafrir_laptop, hm, i see, nice`
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`11:15.57`	`stoffell`	`tzafrir_laptop, and does it work to do the updates? or do you want to improve it?`
`11:16.43`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`stoffell, it works`
`11:16.57`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`(apt updates)`
`11:17.39`	`stoffell`	`hm, cool, i will be looking into it deeper then`
`11:19.01`	`Enth`	`Guys, what's the best site for getting into on setting up Asterisk? such configuring extensions, sip and so on`
`11:19.19`	`stoffell`	`~docs`
`11:19.21`	`jbot`	`from memory, docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html`
`11:20.25`	`Enth`	`cheers jbot`
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`11:24.42`	`Enth`	`What does the Service Unavailable, in general refer to?`
`11:25.11`	`Enth`	`I've configured the extensions, sip and server is up and running, softphones are registered but does not dial the extensions.`
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`11:35.36`	`RoyK`	`~seen zoa`
`11:35.39`	`jbot`	`zoa is currently on #asterisk, last said: '1000 interrupts per second are ok'.`
`11:35.52`	`RoyK`	`zoa: ka-ding`
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`12:03.43`	`xianlp`	`hi - I have a question - is there any (complete) documention for bristuff or somekind of 'asterisk meets isdn'`
`12:04.01`	`stoffell`	`xianlp, on voip-info you should find a lot..`
`12:04.30`	`xianlp`	`hm, thx stoffell - actually, I'm not able to install it`
`12:05.04`	`stoffell`	`xianlp also check www.asteriskguru.com, if you don't succeed, post your problem here`
`12:05.14`	`xianlp`	`thx for your help`
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`12:06.25`	`robin_sz`	`that reminds me ... must write some macros to record new voicemail greetings today ...`
`12:06.31`	`KooG`	`hi all`
`12:07.20`	`KooG`	`i got a huge problem, everithing is working perfect with asterisk ... sip phones are connecting to asterisk making and receiving calls`
`12:07.38`	`KooG`	`the problem is how can i connect a sip phone that is everywhere on the net`
`12:07.54`	`KooG`	`to my asterisk server allowing the phone to receive and make calls`
`12:08.00`	`KooG`	`?`
`12:08.10`	`KooG`	`we are using x-lite as client`
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`12:09.13`	`KooG`	`what should we configure to make it works ?`
`12:09.27`	`KooG`	`i really need help on that`
`12:09.29`	`KooG`	`please`
`12:10.05`	`KooG`	`robin_sz`
`12:10.13`	`KooG`	`can u please help me on that ?`
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`12:11.45`	`KooG`	`tld?`
`12:11.52`	`tld`	`Koo6?`
`12:12.11`	`KooG`	`hi`
`12:12.16`	`tld`	`hey`
`12:12.19`	`tld`	`KooG, sorry`
`12:12.20`	`tld`	`misread`
`12:12.26`	`KooG`	`what ?`
`12:12.30`	`tld`	`nm`
`12:12.58`	`robin_sz`	`OK, so ... its not that hard`
`12:13.05`	`KooG`	`cool`
`12:13.12`	`KooG`	`let me know :P`
`12:13.13`	`robin_sz`	`you have a asterisk CLI open?`
`12:13.17`	`KooG`	`yes`
`12:13.40`	`robin_sz`	`so ... you pick up a phone and try to dial another local phone ...`
`12:13.45`	`robin_sz`	`what happens?`
`12:13.52`	`KooG`	`works`
`12:13.56`	`robin_sz`	`right`
`12:14.01`	`KooG`	`without problems`
`12:14.03`	`robin_sz`	`so ...`
`12:14.12`	`robin_sz`	`its external calls that are the problem right?`
`12:14.17`	`KooG`	`i need to connect a phone that is on the internet`
`12:14.19`	`KooG`	`no no`
`12:14.21`	`robin_sz`	`ah`
`12:14.24`	`robin_sz`	`right ..`
`12:14.43`	`robin_sz`	`so .. you have a NAT firewall between you and the 'net?`
`12:14.50`	`KooG`	`so i forwarded from the router port 5600 udp to the asterisk server`
`12:14.57`	`KooG`	`both sides`
`12:15.03`	`robin_sz`	`right`
`12:15.03`	`KooG`	`a nat where the client is`
`12:15.13`	`KooG`	`and a nat where the server is`
`12:15.21`	`robin_sz`	`and you get connections, but no audio right?`
`12:15.47`	`KooG`	`no i can't get connection the phone don't log in`
`12:15.57`	`KooG`	`also whit sip debug`
`12:16.04`	`robin_sz`	`one moment ...`
`12:16.04`	`KooG`	`i don't see any attempt`
`12:16.07`	`robin_sz`	`5600 UPD?`
`12:16.10`	`KooG`	`yes`
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`12:16.35`	`kink0`	`hello`
`12:16.46`	`KooG`	`do i need more ports ?`
`12:17.11`	`kink0`	`I am refusing calls who sends "confort noise" , there anyway to accept these calls and ignore "confort noise" ?`
`12:17.30`	`kink0`	`( I am not able to dissable confort noise at the client side )`
`12:17.41`	`KooG`	`any ideas ?`
`12:17.51`	`robin_sz`	`KooG: 5600 is the control port, audio data is ually in a greoup of ports in the 10000 range`
`12:18.06`	`KooG`	`so i need to forward`
`12:18.16`	`KooG`	`ports from 10000 to 20000 udp ?`
`12:18.46`	`robin_sz`	`wait .. didnt you mean port 5060??`
`12:18.50`	`robin_sz`	`not 5600`
`12:19.37`	`robin_sz`	`I think you'll find 5060 helps :)`
`12:19.39`	`KooG`	`actually i'm forwarding only 5600 udp from the router to asterisk`
`12:19.50`	`KooG`	`opps`
`12:19.51`	`robin_sz`	`for SIP?`
`12:19.53`	`KooG`	`i meant 5060`
`12:19.55`	`KooG`	`sorry`
`12:20.10`	`robin_sz`	`well ... so long as you did 5060 on the firewall too`
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`12:20.28`	`robin_sz`	`I think this is where STUN comes into it ...`
`12:20.48`	`KooG`	`so it's not going to be an easy thing right ?`
`12:20.51`	`KooG`	`:(`
`12:20.54`	`robin_sz`	`our firewall does something called "consistent NAT for SIP" ... when I enabled that, it allworked`
`12:21.20`	`KooG`	`what firewall do u have ?`
`12:21.23`	`KooG`	`cisco PIX ?`
`12:21.31`	`RoyK`	`firewalls are for chickens`
`12:21.53`	`KooG`	`chickend whit H5N1`
`12:21.54`	`KooG`	`:)`
`12:22.03`	`KooG`	`ehm`
`12:22.12`	`KooG`	`chickens with H5N1`
`12:22.19`	`robin_sz`	`oh, some Sonicwall bag-o-shite`
`12:22.34`	`robin_sz`	`I prefer iptables myself :)`
`12:23.03`	`robin_sz`	`but . .politics dicatates we use this sonicwall crap :(`
`12:23.05`	`robin_sz`	`ho hum`
`12:23.09`	`robin_sz`	`anyway ...`
`12:23.10`	`austinnichols101`	`robin_sz: just catching the tail-end of this conversation but I ended up disabling consistent NAT on my sonicwall because is was creating NAT issues`
`12:23.47`	`robin_sz`	`austinnichols101: it seems to work for us ... until that point we had connections but no audio`
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`12:24.04`	`austinnichols101`	`I had the same problem too :-)`
`12:24.16`	`robin_sz`	`how did you eventually solve it ..`
`12:24.19`	`Enth`	`Guys, I've configured the extensions, sip.conf/extensions.conf and asterisk server is up and running, softphones are registered but does not dial the extensions - getting 404 not found message on the softphone.`
`12:24.23`	`kink0`	`no way to ignore confort noise and accept those calls ?`
`12:24.24`	`Enth`	`any reason why?`
`12:24.41`	`robin_sz`	`Enth: contexts`
`12:24.50`	`Enth`	`oh`
`12:25.05`	`Enth`	`fn~robin_sz: what should I need to add there?`
`12:25.37`	`robin_sz`	`if you phones are in say "localphones" context (as defined by context=???? in sip.conf)`
`12:25.56`	`robin_sz`	`you need to amke a [localphones] conext in extensions.conf`
`12:26.10`	`austinnichols101`	`robin_sz: in my case I had a cisco 7960 at a remote site connecting to the asterisk behing 1:1 NAT at the main site. I set up the externip on the '*' box, disabled consistent NAT to tell the sonicwall to quick mucking with the packets and then forwarded 5060 on remote firewall to the cisco. I also had to set the phone to use 'NAT' and send the public addy to asterisk`
`12:26.21`	`robin_sz`	`and in there define an extention 1234 => etc to dial out to your 1234 phone`
`12:27.48`	`Enth`	`ok brb`
`12:29.39`	`robin_sz`	`austinnichols101: sounds sane, and not dissimilar from what we are doing, but we have consistent nat enabled on sonicwall. we have occasional problems, but mostly its OK, before settign consitent nat it was always no audio`
`12:30.05`	`robin_sz`	`I keep thinking ai need to learn more about STUN`
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`12:30.15`	`Enth`	`fn~robin_sz: Cheers. Works like a treat. Is there a way to eliminate "echoing" ?`
`12:30.23`	`robin_sz`	`yes`
`12:31.02`	`austinnichols101`	`robin_sz: which sonicwall? I'm using a 3060 with the OS Enhanced. I've sort of convinced myself that the consistent NAT may be broken in the specific version of FW I'm running.`
`12:31.14`	`austinnichols101`	`I think it should work`
`12:31.43`	`robin_sz`	`hmmm .. you know .. I forget .. its in the geneva office which I visit once every couple of months`
`12:32.16`	`robin_sz`	`phew .. not banned on #debian anymore :)`
`12:32.20`	`Enth`	`hah`
`12:32.27`	`austinnichols101`	`robin_sz: let me pull up the settings. I remember that there was a moment there when I enabled externip and turned off a couple of switches on the sonicwall and everything magically started working`
`12:32.51`	`robin_sz`	`ok, I'll log into the geneva box`
`12:36.32`	`austinnichols101`	`robin: I think I might have misspoke. Enable consistent NAT = ON, Enable SIP Transformations = OFF`
`12:36.47`	`austinnichols101`	`SIP transformations were creating my issue`
`12:36.47`	`robin_sz`	`sounds familiar ...`
`12:36.56`	`robin_sz`	`sigh .. forgotten the pw :(`
`12:37.33`	`austinnichols101`	`After reading a bit I found that transformations are trying to deal with NAT (probably by changing the addresses within the SIP packet)`
`12:37.45`	`robin_sz`	`yeuuch`
`12:37.49`	`austinnichols101`	`so then when RTP kicks in it tries to establish voice but never does`
`12:38.02`	`robin_sz`	`quite`
`12:38.29`	`austinnichols101`	`you might want to check another 'symptom'`
`12:38.45`	`austinnichols101`	`checking my notes`
`12:39.32`	`austinnichols101`	`do a SIP SHOW cannels and see if you have any 'phantom' calls floating around out there.`
`12:40.16`	`austinnichols101`	`In my config I would place a test call from the remote site and then hang up but the asterisk box would never drop the call`
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`12:45.01`	`kemp`	`are there anybody in here?`
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`12:48.31`	`fugitivo`	`1.2.5!`
`12:48.45`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`kemp, no`
`12:48.49`	`robin_sz`	`austinnichols101: ive had that .. they die eventually, but ti can tke a while`
`12:49.08`	`robin_sz`	`in other news ... I have some good news re my grandstream ...`
`12:49.22`	`robin_sz`	`it now crashes every half hour or so .. this is great`
`12:50.24`	`fugitivo`	`buy polycom`
`12:50.34`	`robin_sz`	`the new software makes the display go blank after a few minutes ...`
`12:50.47`	`robin_sz`	`when it crashes and reboots, it comes back`
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`12:51.04`	`robin_sz`	`so, at leat it has a display for ~10 out of every 30 minutes or so`
`12:51.24`	`austinnichols101`	`robin_sz: double-check that transformations stuff when you get back on the box - I pulled my hair out for a couple of days trying to figure that one out.`
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`12:52.08`	`austinnichols101`	`robin_sz: would be interested in what you find out`
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`12:55.10`	`austinnichols101`	`has anyone seen an SPA942 in the wild? I heard that the ethernet ports are 10MBPS only and would like to confirm.`
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`12:56.51`	`stoffell`	`austinnichols101, nobody has confirmed they are 'not' 10 mbps :)`
`12:57.20`	`Dr-Linux`	`stoffell: any good link for queue options`
`12:57.33`	`Dr-Linux`	`like rmomory, round ribin, and so on?`
`12:57.58`	`stoffell`	`Dr-Linux, no idea, voip-info.org and on asteriskguru.com there's a queue application, so far my queue knowledge`
`12:58.08`	`Dr-Linux`	`actually i want the call should be route to longest idle member`
`12:58.19`	`austinnichols101`	`stoffell: tks, btw I just read a post and the 942 does have a backlit display (according to the post)`
`12:58.33`	`stoffell`	`Dr-Linux, i think that involves programming, check www.asteriskguru.com->tools`
`12:58.35`	`gaupe`	`the 941 doesn't at least`
`12:58.40`	`austinnichols101`	`right`
`12:58.56`	`Dr-Linux`	`ok`
`12:59.17`	`stoffell`	`austinnichols101, nice. polycom doesn't have backlit but great phones. (also, thomson phone looks promising)`
`12:59.20`	`austinnichols101`	`I can't imagine why they would be so stupid as to put in 10mbps ports in this day/age but then again I wouldn't be that suprised if it were true`
`13:00.16`	`austinnichols101`	`stuffell: I'm getting ready to try out a couple of polycoms. I always liked the sound quality. For me, backlit is really just a nice to have`
`13:00.37`	`austinnichols101`	`stuffell: ie working late, in the dark`
`13:00.40`	`stoffell`	`austinnichols101, indeed..`
`13:01.07`	`stoffell`	`austinnichols101, i prefer backlit also, but on the other hand, a 'geek' USB-light (pick your color) looks also nice :p`
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`13:01.22`	`austinnichols101`	`stoffell: good idea!`
`13:01.42`	`gaupe`	`austinnichols101: because they want you to "upgrade" to cisco phones`
`13:01.42`	`stoffell`	`austinnichols101, i'm thinking of that to use with my thomson st-2030 (futuristic looking phone without backlit)`
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`13:01.58`	`stoffell`	`lo`
`13:01.58`	`stoffell`	`l`
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`13:02.08`	`austinnichols101`	`cool - looks great!`
`13:02.11`	`austinnichols101`	`problem solved`
`13:03.23`	`vgster`	`does anyone use the g729 codec from digium?`
`13:03.35`	`austinnichols101`	`vgster: yes`
`13:03.50`	`vgster`	`is it the codec thats registered or is it a file?`
`13:04.05`	`vgster`	`i want to try 1.2.5 but need to keep the codec working`
`13:05.14`	`austinnichols101`	`vgster: file. I downloaded the wrong codec once (wrong CPU) and then replaced it later with no problems`
`13:05.36`	`austinnichols101`	`vgster: but you should get a second confirmation of that as I'm definitely NOT an expert on the codec`
`13:07.17`	`austinnichols101`	`stoffell: dig this - I just looked at the data sheet pdf on the linksys site and it says 'Two Ethernet LAN 100BaseT RJ-45'`
`13:07.38`	`vgster`	`ok any ideas where the fileit?`
`13:07.55`	`stoffell`	`austinnichols101, then the datasheet has changed ...`
`13:08.10`	`austinnichols101`	`vgster: no idea. But in my case I didn't have to do anything at all other than put the new codec in place`
`13:08.11`	`Druken`	`2 100baset on what ?`
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`13:08.18`	`austinnichols101`	`SPA942`
`13:08.26`	`austinnichols101`	`stoffell: yes, it's changed for sure.`
`13:09.03`	`austinnichols101`	`stoffell: I saw the pdf a while back and it was something like 10BaseT...`
`13:09.21`	`vgster`	`its in ./var/lib/asterisk/licenses`
`13:09.30`	`stoffell`	`austinnichols101, it was indeed.. so now you can get one ! :) but macke sure it's a new model, 'with' 100base :)`
`13:10.00`	`austinnichols101`	`stoffell: I wonder if it's a pdf revision or a phone revision`
`13:10.09`	`stoffell`	`lol, indeed`
`13:10.48`	`austinnichols101`	`vgster: tks. I'll add that to my notes`
`13:11.45`	`Druken`	`fuck me i'm bored....`
`13:12.37`	`Druken`	`i should do something productive but have no desire to do so...`
`13:12.39`	`austinnichols101`	`w00t! time to head to the golf course. later everyone`
`13:12.40`	`Druken`	`no will....`
`13:14.03`	`austinnichols101`	`druken: no work = no money. no money = no women. time to go back to work`
`13:17.30`	`Druken`	`well, i'm pissed at my wife at the moment... she's no where to be found, haven't seen her since yesturday morning, no phonecalls, nothing`
`13:17.42`	`Druken`	`that could be the lack of determination`
`13:18.12`	`austinnichols101`	`druken: funny - I'm in a similar situation right now.`
`13:18.26`	`austinnichols101`	`druken: suggest you head to the golf course too`
`13:19.11`	`Druken`	`kinda hard to do that in the snow....`
`13:19.18`	`Druken`	`plus i'm not a golfer... :)`
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`13:39.32`	`Enth`	`Guys, what#s the key code to access Voicemail ?`
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`13:48.21`	`KooG`	`hi`
`13:48.36`	`KooG`	`how can we solve this x-lite behind NAT cant connect the asterisk behind NAT ..`
`13:48.53`	`KooG`	`in the asterisk CLI i don't see anything`
`13:48.59`	`KooG`	`nothing at all`
`13:49.19`	`KooG`	`regarding a connection attempt from the sip phone that is a in a different network`
`13:49.36`	`KooG`	`i set in sip.conf for that phone nat=true and qualify=yes`
`13:50.59`	`Enth`	`nat=yes`
`13:51.03`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`KooG, sip debug`
`13:51.09`	`KooG`	`w8`
`13:51.26`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`This will show you when asterisk hears of some sip`
`13:52.18`	`KooG`	`i did .. nothing happens`
`13:52.27`	`KooG`	`the phone timeouts`
`13:52.35`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`KooG, also consider canreinvite=no , although I'm not sure if it is implied by nat=yes`
`13:52.48`	`KooG`	`and i don't see a connection`
`13:52.49`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`anyway, are the phones set to register with the asterisk server?`
`13:52.51`	`KooG`	`in the CLI`
`13:52.58`	`KooG`	`yeah sure the right ip`
`13:53.04`	`KooG`	`wich ports`
`13:53.08`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`If so, do you see their IP in 'sip show peers'?`
`13:53.14`	`KooG`	`i must open`
`13:53.24`	`KooG`	`only phone from the server LAN`
`13:53.32`	`Enth`	`and you sure the firewalls arent blocking anything?`
`13:53.41`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`SIP itself (the session management, registration etc.) is UDP port 5060`
`13:55.54`	`KooG`	`only 5060`
`13:55.55`	`KooG`	`?`
`13:56.05`	`KooG`	`i forwarded it correctly`
`13:56.21`	`KooG`	`cause i can recieve and make calls using my sip provider`
`13:56.30`	`KooG`	`through asterisk`
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`13:59.16`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Is the asterisk behind nat as well?`
`13:59.24`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`are oth behind the same nat?`
`14:00.03`	`KooG`	`both behind nat`
`14:00.17`	`Enth`	`Guys, what's the key code to access Voicemail ?`
`14:00.20`	`KooG`	`phone is behind nat by his side`
`14:00.34`	`KooG`	`asterisk is behind nat his side`
`14:01.00`	`Dr-Linux`	`KooG: may i know your problem?`
`14:01.10`	`KooG`	`easy`
`14:01.21`	`KooG`	`i've a sip phone behind nat in a network`
`14:01.39`	`KooG`	`and i've asterisk pbx behind nat in another network`
`14:02.25`	`KooG`	`i've forwarded the 5060 udp from the router to the asterisk PBX`
`14:02.55`	`Dr-Linux`	`KooG: and?`
`14:03.02`	`KooG`	`i can't register the phone`
`14:03.07`	`KooG`	`on asterisk`
`14:03.20`	`Dr-Linux`	`KooG: what's the phone?`
`14:03.24`	`Dr-Linux`	`hardphone?`
`14:03.25`	`KooG`	`x-lite`
`14:03.31`	`KooG`	`no no x-lite`
`14:03.54`	`Dr-Linux`	`KooG: lets try to registered this phone :)`
`14:04.19`	`Dr-Linux`	`you are using SIP channel ?`
`14:04.22`	`KooG`	`i tried it doesn't register`
`14:04.25`	`Druken`	`KooG: do you have nat=yes in your sip.conf?`
`14:04.32`	`Druken`	`as well as publicip= ?`
`14:04.44`	`Druken`	`if asterisk don't know it's public ip it's utterly useless`
`14:04.50`	`KooG`	`yes i have nat=yes in the [phone104] context`
`14:04.52`	`Druken`	`and it needs to know the phone is behind a nat`
`14:04.53`	`KooG`	`in sip.conf`
`14:05.03`	`KooG`	`well so`
`14:05.13`	`KooG`	`publicip= is the public ip of asterisk`
`14:05.17`	`Enth`	`fn~KooG: Make sure you have entered the IP of the Asterisk server on Domain/Realm, SIP Proxy and Username/Authoristion.`
`14:05.18`	`Dr-Linux`	`KooG: are you doig sip debug ?`
`14:05.46`	`KooG`	`wait wait`
`14:05.51`	`KooG`	`just a sec`
`14:05.53`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`KooG, as in your case the media path will probably no go directly to the ISP, but rather through the Asterisk server, consider using here IAX soft phones instead`
`14:06.03`	`Druken`	`i've said it before, and i'll say it again... DON'T RUN SERVERS BEHIND A NAT!!!!!`
`14:06.08`	`Druken`	`god damnit....`
`14:06.09`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`This will make NAT traversing simpler`
`14:06.21`	`Enth`	`fn~KooG: and try entering the IP of the Firewall/NAT server under Network`
`14:06.22`	`Enth`	`well`
`14:06.24`	`KooG`	`Druken, i've olny one ip address`
`14:06.25`	`Dr-Linux`	`well`
`14:06.33`	`Enth`	`works for me in the same scenario.`
`14:06.34`	`KooG`	`and 20 pcs`
`14:06.46`	`KooG`	`switching to IAX`
`14:06.54`	`KooG`	`solved your problems ?`
`14:07.03`	`Dr-Linux`	`my both servers are behind the NAT, and i have every type of client, i.e NAT/public .. but all are working fine`
`14:07.31`	`Enth`	`On a different subject, anyone know how to access Voicemail through x-lite ?`
`14:07.54`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: how you wan?`
`14:07.56`	`KooG`	`ok can u paste the config of a sip external phone from your sip.conf ?`
`14:08.08`	`Druken`	`i have a extension setup in my system that goes to voicemail... *98 :)`
`14:08.23`	`KooG`	`Druken: can u paste that in query ?`
`14:08.31`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: edit your voicemail.conf ext >> pass,name,email@something.com`
`14:08.47`	`Druken`	`well, MY extension wouldn't help you... because i use a variable`
`14:08.50`	`Enth`	`fn~Dr-Linux: Well, I have a message on mailbox xxxx and need to listen to it, so how is retrieved?`
`14:08.58`	`KooG`	`what ?`
`14:09.36`	`Enth`	`Do I need to set a dialplan to even access Voicemails too?`
`14:09.36`	`KooG`	`well gotta go thx`
`14:09.40`	`KooG`	`:)`
`14:09.56`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: can you login to your voice using x lite using particular extension?`
`14:09.59`	`Druken`	`encode: dialplan does EVERYTHING.. hehe basically`
`14:10.10`	`Enth`	`hehe`
`14:10.12`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: ofcos you need`
`14:10.18`	`Enth`	`fn~Dr-Linux: ahhh`
`14:10.29`	`Druken`	`uhg... damn nick complette`
`14:10.47`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: like exten => 1212,voicemail(1212)`
`14:11.15`	`Enth`	`here's a sample:`
`14:11.25`	`Enth`	`exten = 5678,1,Dial(SIP/5678,20)`
`14:11.33`	`Enth`	`exten = 5678,2,Voicemail(u5678)`
`14:11.36`	`Enth`	`and thats it!`
`14:11.43`	`Enth`	`what else do I need to add to that?`
`14:11.48`	`Druken`	`nothing`
`14:11.58`	`Dr-Linux`	`it should work`
`14:12.04`	`Enth`	`So how does one retrieve their messages?`
`14:12.13`	`Druken`	`you need a seperate extension to access voicemailmain`
`14:12.18`	`Enth`	`ahh`
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`14:12.22`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: can you show us your voicemail.conf entry for this extension?`
`14:12.41`	`Dr-Linux`	`for 5678?`
`14:12.52`	`Druken`	`are you using accountcodes?`
`14:13.06`	`Enth`	`I got a simple setup`
`14:13.06`	`Enth`	`[5678]`
`14:13.06`	`Enth`	`5678 => 1234, Epoch`
`14:13.11`	`Enth`	`and thats it!`
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`14:13.28`	`Joshipoo`	`hey guys`
`14:13.46`	`Enth`	`...`
`14:13.59`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: edit your voicemail.conf 5678 => 1234,Name,email@something.com`
`14:14.07`	`Druken`	`Enth: how many extensions are you talking? just the 1?`
`14:14.12`	`Enth`	`two`
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`14:14.21`	`Joshipoo`	`i can send outgoing calls, and call from station to station, but not receive incoming calls`
`14:14.32`	`Druken`	`Enth: do you use accountcodes for those phones?`
`14:14.36`	`Enth`	`I have already left a message for ext 5678`
`14:14.43`	`Enth`	`no accountcodes`
`14:14.45`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: what about voicemailmain?`
`14:15.00`	`Enth`	`fn~Dr-Linux: nothing for voicemail main`
`14:15.28`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: then i don't think it'd work on phone`
`14:15.34`	`Dr-Linux`	`xlite*`
`14:15.38`	`Enth`	`ok, so how do I fix it?`
`14:15.45`	`Enth`	`what do i need to add.`
`14:16.00`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: define an extension for Voicemailmain`
`14:16.08`	`Druken`	`Enth: lets make your life a litte easier...`
`14:16.12`	`Enth`	`heh`
`14:16.15`	`Druken`	`pastebin your voicemail.conf`
`14:16.20`	`Druken`	`and sip.conf`
`14:16.22`	`Enth`	`ok heh`
`14:16.31`	`Enth`	`it's basic setup:`
`14:16.36`	`Enth`	`Voicemail.conf is`
`14:16.42`	`Druken`	`wait a sec`
`14:16.45`	`Druken`	`pastebin it`
`14:16.49`	`Druken`	`www.pastebin.ca`
`14:16.58`	`Enth`	`ah yes`
`14:16.59`	`Enth`	`sorry`
`14:17.24`	`Druken`	`sip.conf AND voicemail.conf`
`14:17.35`	`Dr-Linux`	`:)`
`14:18.55`	`Enth`	`guys`
`14:18.57`	`Enth`	`http://pastebin.ca/44439`
`14:18.59`	`Enth`	`:)`
`14:19.09`	`Druken`	`uhg....`
`14:19.27`	`Druken`	`one of my customers has 95 OLD messages... talk about abuse...`
`14:19.55`	`Druken`	`why does that conf look like the product of amp ?`
`14:20.07`	`Enth`	`because it is`
`14:20.12`	`Enth`	`i dont use AMP tho`
`14:20.25`	`Dr-Linux`	`Druken: voicemail can have/stor max 100 messages by default`
`14:20.54`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: do you have voicemai.conf.sample ?`
`14:21.13`	`Druken`	`Dr-Linux: i'm awear of that`
`14:21.28`	`Dr-Linux`	`Druken: if 100 message acceeded, the caller will hear, sorry the mail box is full ;)`
`14:21.29`	`Druken`	`Enth: ok, remove the [4567] from voicemail.conf`
`14:21.45`	`Enth`	`4567?`
`14:21.50`	`Enth`	`there isnt any 4567`
`14:21.53`	`Druken`	`ok, 5678`
`14:22.00`	`Dr-Linux`	`Druken: i faced this problem, and then fixed`
`14:22.01`	`Druken`	`just the [5678]`
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`14:22.23`	`Enth`	`ok I'll remove the [5678]`
`14:22.25`	`Druken`	`Dr-Linux: it's no problem... personally i'd prefer to restrict to 20`
`14:22.25`	`Enth`	`and?`
`14:22.28`	`Dr-Linux`	`Druken: do you provide webbased voicemail to your clients?`
`14:22.29`	`Druken`	`save the file`
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`14:22.38`	`Druken`	`Dr-Linux: no`
`14:22.47`	`Enth`	`and then thats it?`
`14:22.53`	`Druken`	`Enth: not yet`
`14:22.58`	`Druken`	`load up sip.conf`
`14:23.03`	`Enth`	`yeah`
`14:23.17`	`Druken`	`add accountcode=5678 to ext 5678`
`14:23.17`	`Enth`	`and..`
`14:23.22`	`Dr-Linux`	`Druken: what happed if we do not restrict users ?`
`14:23.25`	`Druken`	`and accountcode=4444 to ext 4444`
`14:23.40`	`Dr-Linux`	`i mean what if i give them 200 messages , they can have?`
`14:23.45`	`Enth`	`do I remove mailbox= ?`
`14:23.50`	`Druken`	`no`
`14:24.03`	`Dr-Linux`	`Druken: its only space matter, nothing else, right?`
`14:24.12`	`Druken`	`dunno`
`14:24.23`	`Enth`	`ok done and now?`
`14:24.29`	`Druken`	`i personally see no reason for 100 fucking voicemail to be stored`
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`14:24.41`	`Druken`	`Enth: now into your dialplan`
`14:24.54`	`Druken`	`what context are you phones in ?`
`14:25.16`	`Enth`	`from-sip`
`14:25.20`	`Enth`	`:P`
`14:25.22`	`Druken`	`ok`
`14:26.00`	`Druken`	`so IN from-sip add exten = *98,1,voicemailmain(${ACCOUNTCODE})`
`14:26.07`	`Dr-Linux`	`Druken: what you think, whats difficult part in * for a newbie ?`
`14:26.28`	`Druken`	`everything?`
`14:26.39`	`Enth`	`added.`
`14:26.42`	`Enth`	`now reload?`
`14:26.48`	`Druken`	`restart asterisk`
`14:26.59`	`Dr-Linux`	`Druken: i'm also a newbie .. but a better now ..`
`14:27.16`	`Druken`	`nah... your not a newbie... your a newb :)`
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`14:27.31`	`Dr-Linux`	`Druken: in the basic, the things were difficult for me, is context logic :P`
`14:27.41`	`Dr-Linux`	`nweb?`
`14:28.04`	`Druken`	`Enth: let me know when asterisk is back up`
`14:28.09`	`Enth`	`it is`
`14:28.19`	`Druken`	`now dial *98 on your softphone`
`14:28.48`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: and you will get invoice soon from James :)`
`14:29.14`	`Enth`	`lol`
`14:29.17`	`Enth`	`it works`
`14:29.28`	`Druken`	`i should invoice you Dr-Linux, since your commercial`
`14:29.30`	`Druken`	`:)`
`14:29.51`	`Enth`	`:)`
`14:29.57`	`Dr-Linux`	`cooooooooool :)`
`14:30.12`	`Enth`	`can this Voicemail greeting be personalised?`
`14:30.22`	`Dr-Linux`	`yes`
`14:30.23`	`Druken`	`of course`
`14:30.33`	`Enth`	`like "you have reached john's voicemail..."`
`14:30.43`	`Druken`	`yeah`
`14:30.48`	`Dr-Linux`	`hhm..`
`14:30.49`	`Druken`	`login and listen to the prompts`
`14:30.51`	`Dr-Linux`	`yeah?`
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`14:30.52`	`Enth`	`is that done thru *98 ?`
`14:30.57`	`Druken`	`yes`
`14:30.57`	`Enth`	`ahhh`
`14:31.00`	`Enth`	`brb`
`14:31.32`	`Druken`	`hehehe`
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`14:31.44`	`Enth`	`i'm on a 100 LAN and still the echo`
`14:31.47`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: you are using what? headset?`
`14:31.48`	`Enth`	`hrmmm`
`14:31.52`	`Enth`	`yes`
`14:32.00`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: tune your client`
`14:32.13`	`Enth`	`x-lite can be fine tuned?`
`14:32.55`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: well, your system volume control as well`
`14:33.11`	`Enth`	`yeah but how does one reduce the echoing?`
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`14:33.30`	`Enth`	`at the Switch/Router level or at the client level?`
`14:33.39`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: your mic should not hear your speakers voice :)`
`14:34.10`	`Enth`	`err`
`14:34.59`	`Enth`	`ah yes`
`14:35.02`	`Enth`	`calibration`
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`14:35.32`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: sorry i don't know much english`
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`14:36.48`	`Dr-Linux`	`any queues expert?`
`14:38.06`	`Enth`	`fn~Dr-Linux: Your English is fine :)`
`14:38.14`	`Enth`	`unfortunately I'm still getting Echoes`
`14:38.16`	`Enth`	`:/`
`14:38.42`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: i wish i have good english, but i never use it in real life`
`14:38.51`	`Dr-Linux`	`hhm..`
`14:39.03`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: whats your * box specs ?`
`14:39.19`	`Enth`	`?`
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`14:39.30`	`Dr-Linux`	`hhm... :S`
`14:39.30`	`Enth`	`Sorry I dont understand that last question`
`14:39.32`	`Enth`	`ah yes`
`14:39.34`	`Enth`	`lol`
`14:39.38`	`Enth`	`silly me.`
`14:39.43`	`Enth`	`well`
`14:39.48`	`Dr-Linux`	`like .. RAM, and ...`
`14:39.55`	`Dr-Linux`	`processor`
`14:39.59`	`Enth`	`hang on`
`14:40.06`	`Dr-Linux`	`acha`
`14:40.43`	`Enth`	`Indian?`
`14:41.01`	`Enth`	`Pentium III 550 with 128 RAM and 10GB hdd.`
`14:41.04`	`RoyK`	`23 x i486dx33 processors!`
`14:41.05`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: i'm from Pakistan`
`14:41.14`	`Enth`	`teekay.`
`14:41.19`	`Enth`	`:P`
`14:41.25`	`Dr-Linux`	`lol`
`14:41.26`	`RoyK`	`pakipenguin, wasim and now Dr-Linux`
`14:41.38`	`RoyK`	`THEY'RE INVADING US`
`14:41.47`	`Enth`	`so that's the spec.`
`14:41.56`	`Dr-Linux`	`invading ? :S`
`14:42.01`	`Enth`	`now, how does one really eliminate echoing`
`14:42.05`	`backblue`	`pakistan does not have internet connections`
`14:42.08`	`RoyK`	`Dr-Linux: just kidding :)`
`14:42.14`	`RoyK`	`Enth: what sort of echo?`
`14:42.15`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: well, can you try please on different client?`
`14:42.24`	`RoyK`	`backblue: er. wot?`
`14:42.40`	`Dr-Linux`	`i mean on differnet machine that have x-lite, SJphone SIPPS etc ?`
`14:42.44`	`Enth`	`ok, hrmmm need to find some free clients`
`14:42.45`	`RoyK`	`backblue: increase your medication, sir`
`14:42.47`	`Enth`	`softphones`
`14:42.59`	`backblue`	`RoyK: lol, i was joking!`
`14:43.15`	`RoyK`	`wtf is .pt?`
`14:43.23`	`backblue`	`lost world`
`14:43.34`	`backblue`	`no internet connection too`
`14:43.50`	`Enth`	`.pt = Portugal`
`14:44.07`	`Enth`	`but you obviously knew that :P`
`14:44.08`	`RoyK`	`ah. das schtemt`
`14:44.34`	`Enth`	`Volda?`
`14:44.37`	`Enth`	`trondheim?`
`14:44.40`	`Enth`	`:P`
`14:44.41`	`RoyK`	`osdlo`
`14:44.43`	`RoyK`	`oslo`
`14:44.43`	`Enth`	`ah`
`14:44.52`	`Dr-Linux`	`wtf is .no ? :S`
`14:44.58`	`Enth`	`Norway`
`14:45.02`	`RoyK`	`wtf should I be from volda? there are some 6000 ppl living up there or something`
`14:45.13`	`backblue`	`snow its nice`
`14:45.29`	`RoyK`	`backblue: arguable`
`14:45.39`	`backblue`	`i never have seen snowing`
`14:45.49`	`RoyK`	`sorry. volda has 8200 inhabitants, not 6000`
`14:45.49`	`RoyK`	`:P`
`14:45.50`	`backblue`	`:`
`14:45.52`	`backblue`	`:P`
`14:45.52`	`RoyK`	`backblue: it's cold`
`14:45.57`	`Dr-Linux`	`Denmakr`
`14:46.04`	`Dr-Linux`	`Denmark*`
`14:46.12`	`backblue`	`benmark wons`
`14:46.13`	`RoyK`	`.dk`
`14:46.18`	`backblue`	`.de too`
`14:46.22`	`RoyK`	`Dr-Linux: denmark is .dk`
`14:46.23`	`RoyK`	`:P`
`14:46.34`	`Dr-Linux`	`oo ok, i didn't know`
`14:46.47`	`RoyK`	`s/s$//`
`14:46.48`	`Dr-Linux`	`i just know they are fucked up`
`14:47.00`	`RoyK`	`Dr-Linux: jyllandsposten and so on?`
`14:47.10`	`backblue`	`anyone know where is that city on the left of the website? https://www.commerzbank.de/`
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`14:47.32`	`backblue`	`RoyK: hehe! :)`
`14:47.39`	`Dr-Linux`	`RoyK: jyllandsposten?`
`14:47.51`	`RoyK`	`this .no paper printed those catoon as well, _one_ paper, one of really right-wing idiot conservative lutherins`
`14:48.05`	`RoyK`	`Dr-Linux: what else may make you say people from .dk are idiots?`
`14:48.40`	`backblue`	`wonder when fucking asterisk will be full domain suporte, i really need it! :P`
`14:48.40`	`Dr-Linux`	`RoyK: what you think, they did good?`
`14:48.47`	`RoyK`	`Dr-Linux: no`
`14:48.54`	`Dr-Linux`	`RoyK: yesterday we had strike ..`
`14:49.04`	`backblue`	`anyone thinking in developing sip channel again?`
`14:49.19`	`Dr-Linux`	`all muslims wants to .dk to kill the person who made the cartoons ..`
`14:49.24`	`Joshipoo`	`anyone have experience with broadvoice?`
`14:49.27`	`Dr-Linux`	`but the do not confess ..`
`14:49.45`	`RoyK`	`Dr-Linux: it's stupid to kill someone for cartoons even if they're bad`
`14:49.58`	`RoyK`	`Dr-Linux: death penalty itself is idiocy`
`14:50.01`	`Dr-Linux`	`RoyK: but i'm sure the person will be killed soon, by normal guy :)`
`14:50.32`	`nextime`	`a guy that kill someone can't be "normal"`
`14:50.33`	`Dr-Linux`	`RoyK: yep, but took a damn step .. that will make him hell`
`14:50.39`	`RoyK`	`Dr-Linux: when people like you speak well about killing others for stuff like that, it makes conflicts quite a bit more`
`14:50.55`	`RoyK`	`Dr-Linux: i don't like extremists, and you speak like one`
`14:51.10`	`RoyK`	`~seen wasim`
`14:51.20`	`jbot`	`wasim is currently on #asterisk (28m 48s), last said: 'livinded: put a Wait(), or better Playback(muzik-intro-3-seconds)'.`
`14:51.38`	`RoyK`	`Enth: why volda???? http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilde:Volda.jpg`
`14:51.41`	`Dr-Linux`	`RoyK: well, i'm just telling you the happen`
`14:52.08`	`RoyK`	`Dr-Linux: it's people like you that makes it happen`
`14:52.36`	`Dr-Linux`	`RoyK: what should be done with the guy who made?`
`14:52.40`	`x86`	`hmm`
`14:52.47`	`RoyK`	`Dr-Linux: there are other people in the world who wouldn't throw a fatwa on any opponent's shoulders`
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`14:52.52`	`x86`	`if someone dials a regular extension in an IVR prompt, how do i catch that?`
`14:52.56`	`x86`	`or does that happen magically?`
`14:53.45`	`Dr-Linux`	`RoyK: well, sorry i can't discuss such things in english, but Muslim is just following the religion Islam,`
`14:53.50`	`Dr-Linux`	`so leave this topic :)`
`14:53.53`	`Dr-Linux`	`Thanks ;)`
`14:53.59`	`Enth`	`hrmm`
`14:54.06`	`Dr-Linux`	`lets talk about queues`
`14:54.11`	`Dr-Linux`	`i have some problem :P`
`14:54.15`	`Enth`	`what are the best Softphones ?`
`14:54.43`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: Eyebeam`
`14:54.47`	`Dr-Linux`	`but not free`
`14:54.51`	`Enth`	`true`
`14:54.52`	`Enth`	`:(`
`14:54.54`	`Enth`	`hrmmm`
`14:54.55`	`backblue`	`Enth: twinkle?`
`14:55.00`	`Dr-Linux`	`Enth: i suggest you should use SJphone`
`14:55.13`	`backblue`	`twinkle owns :)`
`14:55.39`	`Enth`	`so fn~Dr-Linux - what's the issue with Queues?`
`14:56.01`	`backblue`	`x86: you have one ivr example with the default configuration in extensions.ael`
`14:59.37`	`Enth`	`hrmmm`
`14:59.45`	`Enth`	`Gnophone site is down`
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`15:01.25`	`webmeester`	`Hi, anyone here with knowledge of CAPI??`
`15:03.00`	`backblue`	`Enth: what os do you use?`
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`15:05.59`	`Fedoracore6`	`hai all`
`15:10.15`	`Enth`	`fn~backblue: sorry. I use Ubuntu`
`15:10.22`	`Enth`	`and others`
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`15:30.53`	`Dr-Linux`	`ohhh!`
`15:31.29`	`Dr-Linux`	`1.2.5 released! aaw new version are coming out so quickly :S`
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`15:37.24`	`__a`	`guys, how do i pickup a phone placed to a queue without waiting for the call to arrive to my phone?`
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`15:42.24`	`__a`	`anyone?`
`15:42.54`	`psirac`	`hi !`
`15:46.13`	`kink0`	`no way to ignore confort noise and accept those calls ?`
`15:46.13`	`stoffell`	`hm, trying to enable BLF on polycom 501, but doesn't seem to work, anyone experience on this/`
`15:46.15`	`stoffell`	`?`
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`15:55.31`	`kink0`	`there anyway to support semi-duplex calls who are ussing voice activity detection and comfort noise ?`
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`15:56.38`	`SarahEmm`	`r`
`15:56.42`	`SarahEmm`	`err`
`15:56.49`	`SarahEmm`	`i mean hihi! ;)`
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`15:58.08`	`SarahEmm`	`sivana: you around?`
`16:01.21`	`Enth`	`Anyone know why pressing 3 on the Advanced Settings on Voicemail dosent work?`
`16:01.36`	`Enth`	`sup fn~SarahEmm`
`16:02.28`	`SarahEmm`	`fn~sarahemm?`
`16:02.28`	`SarahEmm`	`hihi enth`
`16:02.28`	`SarahEmm`	`not much up`
`16:02.28`	`SarahEmm`	`investigating what's changed since i lasted worked inside *`
`16:02.49`	`Enth`	`oops`
`16:02.57`	`SarahEmm`	`hehe`
`16:02.57`	`Enth`	`hrmmm`
`16:03.35`	`Enth`	`hence the fn~`
`16:03.39`	`SarahEmm`	`ahh`
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`16:04.08`	`Enth`	`soooooooooo`
`16:04.14`	`Enth`	`How're u?`
`16:04.48`	`SarahEmm`	`i'm okie :)`
`16:04.51`	`SarahEmm`	`getting back into * dev which is good :)`
`16:05.01`	`Enth`	`good good.`
`16:05.05`	`Enth`	`:*`
`16:05.34`	`SarahEmm`	`:*?`
`16:05.39`	`Enth`	`it's a kiss`
`16:05.43`	`Enth`	`if looked sideways`
`16:05.44`	`SarahEmm`	`ahh`
`16:05.44`	`SarahEmm`	`mew.`
`16:05.47`	`Enth`	`lol`
`16:06.21`	`Enth`	`perhaps you could help me out. Any idea why Advanced Settings on option 3 on Voicemail doesnt work?`
`16:06.32`	`SarahEmm`	`nope`
`16:06.38`	`SarahEmm`	`never used voicemail much`
`16:06.51`	`Enth`	`ah`
`16:09.04`	`Enth`	`heh`
`16:16.17`	`Fedoracore6`	`hai i wanna use one question`
`16:16.34`	`Fedoracore6`	`i try change at cdr_addon_mysql.c`
`16:16.39`	`Fedoracore6`	`like that`
`16:16.40`	`Fedoracore6`	`static char *config = "cdr_mysql.conf";`
`16:16.41`	`Fedoracore6`	`static char hostname = localhost, dbname = ivr, dbuser = edifier, password = 1234, dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock, dbtable = student;`
`16:16.46`	`Fedoracore6`	`its true`
`16:17.20`	`Fedoracore6`	`[TK]D-Fender its right what i am doing`
`16:17.42`	`Fedoracore6`	`or some budy know about that`
`16:18.55`	`Fedoracore6`	`sorry i paste here ... i ry open websie pestabin.com ..undercon...`
`16:20.10`	`pengyong`	`the DTMF detection of zaptel is not reliable if the echocancel set to 256`
`16:20.18`	`pengyong`	`it works fine when echocancel set to 128`
`16:20.30`	`pengyong`	`any one have this issue?`
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`16:23.51`	`wasim`	`mmh ... baklava`
`16:25.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Wow.. I just sit here idling for hours and people think I'm talking with them!`
`16:25.57`	`Fedoracore6`	`;D`
`16:26.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Fedoracore6 : I don't do C, Perl, Bash, Realtime, or much else :)`
`16:26.31`	`Fedoracore6`	`hemmm so [Tk] can i see are people expert in this problem`
`16:27.05`	`Fedoracore6`	`plase i bag ... to you`
`16:27.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Fedoracore6 : Nothing I can do to help....`
`16:28.09`	`Fedoracore6`	`lor`
`16:28.22`	`Fedoracore6`	`hemm did you know some budy expert in this...`
`16:29.06`	`Fedoracore6`	`this fourth day i try solve this problem but didn't get the unswer`
`16:29.07`	`Fedoracore6`	`:D`
`16:33.34`	`Fedoracore6`	`somebudy ...`
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`16:38.06`	`blkremedy`	`hello everyone`
`16:38.30`	`blkremedy`	`I need some help`
`16:38.36`	`russellb`	`Fedoracore6: it's likely that just changing the code isn't going to work`
`16:38.45`	`russellb`	`Fedoracore6: you probably have to change it in the configuration file`
`16:39.38`	`digime`	`anyone know how to get polycom latest firmware?`
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`16:40.15`	`stoffell`	`digime, wich one do you have?`
`16:40.49`	`Hmmhesays`	`don't we all?`
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`16:46.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`digime : CAll your reseller.`
`16:46.41`	`digime`	`ok`
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`16:47.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`digime : I'm in constant contact with mine and keep a massive repository of firmware releases`
`16:47.23`	`xevo`	`What filename does automon use when it saves?`
`16:48.33`	`digime`	`TK: good idea. we are using 500/501 and want to upgrade all of them at once`
`16:48.56`	`digime`	`TK do we need to make new XML config files.. or reconfig some other way`
`16:48.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`digime : What are they running now and what do you need out of newer firmware?`
`16:49.36`	`digime`	`The nice thing is that you can have a master config, and then have individual station settings assigned by MAC address of the phone.`
`16:50.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`digime : I know that part already :) What versions are they using, and what does newer firmware offer that what you've got now doesn't?`
`16:50.13`	`digime`	`Everyones phone, except for mine (501) is running 1.5.3`
`16:50.21`	`stoffell`	`[TK]D-Fender, do you happen to know if the 501 with sip 1.6.x has buddy support?`
`16:50.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stoffell : Presence support goes back to the 1.5.x releases.`
`16:51.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`digime : What feature do you think is necessary to warrant the upgrade? I found 1.5.x to be very stable .`
`16:51.35`	`markit`	`hi :) native transfer seems not to work realiable to me (1.2.x svn). It often changes "trasnfer"message from italian to english, or becomes unable to transfer anymore. Any clue?`
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`16:51.50`	`digime`	`TK: Nothing.`
`16:51.50`	`digime`	`Just want all the phones to be the same.`
`16:51.58`	`stoffell`	`[TK]D-Fender, i enabled buddy watch in contact list but can't find it anywhere on the phone.. (there's no buddy button on the idle screen)`
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`16:52.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I'd thought about the upgrade myself, but am having trouble warranting it. yes, you'd be highly advised to rebuild your XML from the 1.6.x samples were you to upgrade as some things have changed, and bad settings can lock a phone (not BRCK them though).`
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`16:52.46`	`shido6`	`BRCK heh - break or "brick" them :)`
`16:52.49`	`shido6`	`hehe I like that`
`16:53.05`	`Fedoracore6`	`russellb : what configuration file i was canfiguration ...`
`16:53.10`	`digime`	`TK: Just want all to be the same;) And the newer 1.6 firmware is suppsed to be a little more refined.`
`16:53.12`	`shido6`	`PPR WGHT them`
`16:53.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stoffell : Look for <feature feature.1.name="presence" feature.1.enabled="1"`
`16:53.40`	`stoffell`	`oka, tnx [TK]D-Fender`
`16:53.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`make sure its enabled in sip.cfg`
`16:54.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`shido6 : I meant to say "brick".. can't type today`
`16:54.00`	`Fedoracore6`	`i try configure cdr_mysql.conf`
`16:54.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stoffell : 1.5.3 works very well I find.`
`16:54.15`	`Fedoracore6`	`and res_mysql.conf`
`16:54.25`	`Fedoracore6`	`but have still same problem`
`16:54.32`	`stoffell`	`[TK]D-Fender, indeed, presence is 0 here.. thanks, changing and trying :D`
`16:54.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`digime : Sure, well do NOT touch the BR if you don't absolutely need the newer provisioning methods (which you very likely don't).`
`16:54.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stoffell : YWC`
`16:55.25`	`digime`	`tk: Once we get all phones running the same SIP software, we can have everything stored on the server..`
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`16:55.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I already do across the 2 versions I manage at my office...`
`16:58.23`	`stoffell`	`[TK]D-Fender, works perfect! :)`
`16:59.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stoffell : Glad to help. What models are you running?`
`17:00.18`	`stoffell`	`[TK]D-Fender, just received a first ip501 with SIP v1.6.3, and i'm still exploring it..`
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`17:00.56`	`x86`	`hmm`
`17:01.01`	`stoffell`	`[TK]D-Fender, now I can go on to the distinctive-ring-tone (if it supports it) and browser :)`
`17:01.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stoffell : You can get presence through the buddies button, through line-keys dedicated to buddy-watched contacts, and in the 60x MicroBrowser with some easy scripts.`
`17:01.17`	`x86`	`in extensions.conf, is it possible to dial an outbound number via one of my outbound trunks?`
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`17:01.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`there is not browser on the 501... only the 600 series`
`17:01.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : sure`
`17:01.46`	`stoffell`	`oh, okay, cool, thanks!`
`17:02.03`	`stoffell`	`[TK]D-Fender, do you know if ring-tone can be set through sip-header? (alert info)`
`17:03.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stoffell : Yes, but I've only tried twice without success, but if its written that it can be done, then it can...`
`17:03.48`	`stoffell`	`okay, i'm gonna try it then, thanks, if i succeed ,i'll get back to ya ;)`
`17:05.21`	`kink0`	`there anyway to support semi-duplex calls who are ussing voice activity detection and comfort noise ?`
`17:06.39`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: on my outbound trunk, i first use Authenticate so users have to enter a code to dial out... how do i make it enter that code?`
`17:07.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : if you're doing authentication already you should be plenty smart enough to have figured that all out already, no? Or I'd jut bet you're an AMP user :)`
`17:08.13`	`austinnichols101`	`x86: sounds like you would need to collect the digits first, then authenticate, then use append them to the dial string`
`17:08.52`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: what's AMP? heh`
`17:08.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`.... :)`
`17:09.06`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: Authenticate(1234) is fairly easy ;)`
`17:09.24`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: basically what i'm trying to do is a 'follow-me' scenerio...`
`17:09.57`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: user gets to my extension, rings my sip device, if i dont answer, outbound dials my cell phone, if i still dont answer, puts the user to my voicemail`
`17:10.52`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: but it seems the Dial(IAX2/trunkname/${CELLPHONE}) is not working`
`17:10.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : that is actually hard since an outbound call is considered "answered" as soo as the telco starts ringing you...`
`17:11.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`So coming BACK to VM woudn't work...`
`17:12.10`	`x86`	`ah`
`17:12.30`	`x86`	`well i got it to ring my cell phone, so that's good :)`
`17:12.40`	`x86`	`i had the trunkname wrong ;P`
`17:13.03`	`x86`	`and it seems it does not go through the outbound macro, so it skips the need for authentication also, which is very good....`
`17:13.56`	`Druken`	`[TK]D-Fender: what do you mean it's considered answered as soon as it starts to ring?`
`17:14.05`	`Druken`	`only with an analog fxo`
`17:15.32`	`markit`	`no one using native transfer? atxfer?`
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`17:17.21`	`Defraz`	`Does anyone know of a weather script that uses the Allison voice with repeating the weather?`
`17:18.18`	`Druken`	`that would be nice....`
`17:19.25`	`Nugget`	`just move to san diego and you can do it with _,1,background(sunny-and-72-degrees)`
`17:22.39`	`Defraz`	`haha`
`17:22.42`	`Defraz`	`that is great.`
`17:23.05`	`Defraz`	`Just was curious if anyone came up with anything.`
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`17:28.08`	`austinnichols101`	`defraz: weather.agi + cepstral Diane is the closest thing I've found`
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`17:41.23`	`Defraz`	`oh cool`
`17:41.28`	`Defraz`	`I need to check into that then.`
`17:41.58`	`Defraz`	`Do they make tha tfor linux`
`17:42.34`	`austinnichols101`	`cepstral.com`
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`18:00.29`	`alephcom`	`Greetings everyone`
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`18:03.23`	`ravenpi`	`Hey, all. I've mailed the list, but no dice, so here goes: just re-provisioned my T1 to ISDN. DID & CID work fine. Calls are seen, prompts are played. But... no audio. zaptel.conf: pastebin.com/583049 zapata.conf: pastebin.com/583050 "pri debug span 1:" pastebin.com/583060 Any ideas?`
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`18:08.00`	`dokhench`	`hey guys. have a ? about trunking different technologies.. if i wanted to bond an IAX2 and a ZAP into a trunk and dial out on whichever how would I go about it? Just a OUTTRUNK=IAX2/blahblah&Zap/4, then Dial(${OUTTRUNK})?`
`18:11.09`	`ravenpi`	`dokhench: I could be wrong, but I think that that would send the call out both trunks. I'm sure there's a way to do what you want to do, but I'm pretty sure that's not it...`
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`18:12.37`	`gammacoder`	`ravenpi: i've had that same type of problem when the zaptel drivers weren't compiled / installed properly`
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`18:12.51`	`dokhench`	`ravenpi: thought I might have to do db key entries to see which trunks were in use, and return the value of one that is not.. hoping that isn't the case.`
`18:13.28`	`gammacoder`	`ravenpi: happened to me when I upgraded processors (i believe the audio timing code was hosed)`
`18:13.55`	`ravenpi`	`gammacoder: REALLY?! Oh, man, that would be great. So you think it might just be my zaptel stuff killing the audio? Wow -- upgraded processor did it, huh? That's... interesting. ;-)`
`18:14.42`	`blkremedy`	`I just recieved my new tdm11b. Installed into my asterisk@home box but, autoconfig doesn't seem to work. any suggestions?`
`18:15.10`	`gammacoder`	`ravenpi: yeah - i had everything working with a PRI, then added 2 faster cpus and all audio was hosed`
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`18:20.20`	`PakiPenguin`	`evening`
`18:20.29`	`Possible`	`evening`
`18:20.49`	`airwaves`	`OK question on the IVR within *. The IVR doesn't seem to allow me to interrupt a prompt with DTMF. The current behavior is that it expects the prompt files to finish in their entirety before accepting DTMF input. Does anyone know how to change this?`
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`18:25.03`	`dokhench`	`Background instead of Play?`
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`18:27.01`	`mwgbc`	`I have a question about queues in . I looked on viop-wiki and through my O'Reily book and did a google search without finding what I'm looking for. When you a caller is transfered to the queue that I set up with option 't' which allows the agent to transfer a call... where do I put the extension info or how do I choose the context that Asterisk should look in for the tranfer extension?`
`18:29.17`	`mwgbc`	`airwaves: are you using playback() or background()?`
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`18:29.38`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`hallo`
`18:29.43`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`deutsch or english?`
`18:29.50`	`dokhench`	`en`
`18:29.58`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`okay`
`18:30.09`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`how can i use my isdn card to telephone from voip to mobile?`
`18:30.28`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`this should work?`
`18:31.24`	`airwaves`	`mwgbc: Checking now...`
`18:31.30`	`xevo`	`What filename does automon use when it saves?`
`18:31.31`	`dokhench`	`hmm. dunno. i haven't messed with any ISDN with *. seems it would, but how to implement I dunno.`
`18:32.05`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`and where i can switch the voicemail language to german?`
`18:32.35`	`Possible`	`I am trying to get * to work with ISDN...well first to get the ISDN support into the OS first (CAPI)`
`18:32.43`	`Possible`	`even that seems a major task`
`18:32.52`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`i have yaps working`
`18:32.59`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`so the capi should work`
`18:33.15`	`Possible`	`I have Centos 4.2 here`
`18:33.21`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`i have suse 10`
`18:33.29`	`Possible`	`SuSE has it built in`
`18:33.32`	`Possible`	`out of the box`
`18:34.02`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`but where can i tell asterisk to use isdn`
`18:34.13`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`in the extensions.conf i ve tried:`
`18:34.19`	`Possible`	`you need chan_capi_cm`
`18:34.32`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`whats that?`
`18:34.39`	`Possible`	`@sf.net`
`18:34.57`	`PakiPenguin`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN], use britools`
`18:35.32`	`Possible`	`PakiPenguin: that all depends on the ISDN card`
`18:35.39`	`PakiPenguin`	`yup`
`18:35.50`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: what brand/model ISDN card do you have`
`18:36.02`	`livinded`	`how can i setup an extension for when another box that i am registered to as a friend via iax2 is caling me, becuase they don't try to connect to any extnsion?`
`18:37.03`	`dokhench`	`livinded, set up an s for their incoming context.`
`18:37.10`	`livinded`	`i did`
`18:37.19`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`mom`
`18:37.32`	`livinded`	`but when they try to call it says the call to 's@' was rejected`
`18:37.36`	`lunaphyte_`	`if i've ran asterisk with 'asterisk -r' - how can i disconnect from the console without stopping asterisk?`
`18:37.45`	`Possible`	`luke-jr_: stop now`
`18:37.48`	`Possible`	`err`
`18:37.48`	`livinded`	`it seems like its not getting sent to the right context`
`18:37.49`	`Possible`	`exit`
`18:37.54`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`i have: Elsa Microlink PCI`
`18:37.57`	`Possible`	`stop now is to stop asterisk..`
`18:38.04`	`livinded`	`Possible, type quit`
`18:38.06`	`lunaphyte_`	`thanks`
`18:38.28`	`livinded`	`oh lunaphyte_ i mean`
`18:38.38`	`luke-jr_`	`Possible: wtf?`
`18:38.44`	`Possible`	`?`
`18:38.50`	`luke-jr_`	`Possible: you stop now`
`18:38.52`	`mwgbc`	`lunaphyte: run asterisk first then connect with asterisk -r or it will disconnect`
`18:38.57`	`xevo`	`Does anyone know what filename AUTMON uses when it saves the audio?`
`18:38.58`	`Possible`	`okay :)`
`18:39.01`	`lunaphyte_`	`haha`
`18:39.14`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`Possible: Elsa Microlink PCI`
`18:39.25`	`xevo`	`Does anyone here even know what automon is?`
`18:39.34`	`Possible`	`luke-jr_: sorry...darn nickcompletion ;)`
`18:40.24`	`luke-jr_`	`Possible: pfft, blame it on the client... admit it, you were LAZY`
`18:40.43`	`Possible`	`luke-jr_: well in both cases I would blame myself...I wrote this client`
`18:40.50`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`okay i ve installed the chan_capi_cm`
`18:41.11`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`and now?`
`18:41.45`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: with capiinfo does it show the card btw ?`
`18:41.54`	`luke-jr_`	`Possible: yes, but laziness has less honour`
`18:42.04`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`Possible: no`
`18:42.21`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`Possible: capi not installed - No such file or directory (2)`
`18:42.26`	`luke-jr_`	`Possible: writing a client takes work; laziness is the opposite`
`18:42.27`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: well then * won't see it either..`
`18:42.40`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`ok`
`18:42.49`	`Possible`	`type capiinit`
`18:43.00`	`Possible`	`what does that show ?`
`18:43.57`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`nothing`
`18:44.25`	`Possible`	`not even an error or something ?`
`18:44.42`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`no`
`18:44.48`	`Possible`	`just the command capiinit`
`18:44.54`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`yes`
`18:46.57`	`Possible`	`that card has CAPI 2.0 support ?`
`18:47.03`	`Possible`	`I can't find info on it`
`18:48.02`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`hmmm i dont know`
`18:48.12`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`with hwinfo i find the device`
`18:48.40`	`Possible`	`btw what distro are you using ?`
`18:49.07`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`opensuse 10.0`
`18:49.15`	`Possible`	`'k`
`18:50.59`	`Possible`	`seems list.suse.com has some threads about it...in german`
`18:51.13`	`Possible`	`http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-isdn/2002-Aug/0051.html`
`18:51.22`	`Possible`	`suse 8 though.`
`18:53.13`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`hmmmm`
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`18:53.39`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`in this article the isdn card is wrong in yast`
`18:53.55`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`but this is correct in my situation`
`18:54.00`	`x86`	`anyone know of a free web applet SIP UA?`
`18:54.05`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`perhaps the card is too old`
`18:54.22`	`Possible`	`could be`
`18:54.35`	`mwgbc`	`Does anyone know anything about how to point * to the context you want for an extension that a queue agent transferes a caller to when the queue is set up with option 't'`
`18:54.56`	`Possible`	`I have a brand new FritzCard PCI (Passive ISDN card) and that gives me major headaches as well`
`18:55.02`	`Possible`	`so age doesn't mean much`
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`18:55.28`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`hmmm okay`
`18:56.07`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`but the fritzcard works fine with linux`
`18:56.17`	`Possible`	`sure tell CentOS that..`
`18:56.21`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`hehe`
`18:56.37`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`okay when the isdn card works`
`18:56.55`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`how can i get asterisk to work with isdn`
`18:57.09`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`can i do this in the extensions.conf?`
`18:57.17`	`kuku5`	`Anyone have luck running sccp w/ 7940's on * ?`
`18:57.27`	`Possible`	`to be honest I haven't come that far yet...But I have found some references on the web...google is your friend`
`18:57.40`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`really?`
`18:58.03`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`i ve found nothing that helped me`
`18:58.38`	`Possible`	`well it's quite a jungle out there in ISDN land for sure yes..`
`18:59.52`	`Possible`	`maybe this will help you...http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/chan_misdn.html`
`19:00.33`	`Possible`	`it's about chan_misdn though...not chan_capi`
`19:01.25`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`okay`
`19:01.33`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`thank you`
`19:01.42`	`Possible`	`yw`
`19:03.56`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`i have another question :-)`
`19:04.12`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`where can i change the language for voicemail?`
`19:04.22`	`Possible`	`you mean the prompts ?`
`19:04.38`	`Possible`	`there are a few languages available`
`19:04.41`	`Possible`	`like german`
`19:04.52`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`i have the files`
`19:05.03`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/de`
`19:05.20`	`Possible`	`but ?`
`19:05.21`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`but the mailbox is english`
`19:06.15`	`Possible`	`you checked this http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+sound+files+international ?`
`19:06.24`	`x86`	`anyone know of a free web applet SIP client?`
`19:06.44`	`x86`	`so people could go to my website and use a java applet to talk to my asterisk server`
`19:07.04`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:07.05`	`Possible`	`x86: not me...maybe idefix is available as applet ? I believe it's a java client anyway`
`19:07.27`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`in extensions.conf => language=de?`
`19:08.25`	`Possible`	`I guess that would set it PER extension`
`19:09.03`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`where?`
`19:10.56`	`Possible`	`hmm..I guess you just have to set a language=de in 'a' .conf file`
`19:11.12`	`Possible`	`"Use language= in a .conf file, or use the SetLanguage() application in extensions.conf"`
`19:11.18`	`Possible`	`that's what I read in it`
`19:11.41`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`its not important in which file ist is?`
`19:11.52`	`x86`	`Possible: url?`
`19:12.18`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: seems so...extensions.conf has this exten => s,20,Noop(LANGUAGE=${LANGUAGE})`
`19:12.30`	`Possible`	`so refers to the variable`
`19:13.12`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`and where is the variable set?`
`19:14.00`	`Possible`	`http://www.asteriskguru.com/tools/idefisk_beta.php`
`19:14.07`	`Possible`	`that is for x86`
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`19:14.38`	`Iaxy`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN] : Where did you get the voice prompts? Was their a french version?`
`19:15.19`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+sound+files+international`
`19:15.41`	`Possible`	`many languages there`
`19:19.02`	`Iaxy`	`I have thought about setting up languages and will eventually be forced to. now or in the near future. I live where their are two languages, soI need the for english dial x.`
`19:19.26`	`Iaxy`	`Voicemail I would like to be user programmable for english or french prompts. This is a bit more complicated.`
`19:20.55`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: grep language /etc/asterisk/*.conf`
`19:21.17`	`Possible`	`there are a few conf files that have a language setting`
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`19:22.48`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`Possible: thanks`
`19:22.58`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`i try to change the values`
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`19:23.28`	`Kernel_core`	`hi all`
`19:23.35`	`Possible`	`hi Kernel_core`
`19:24.00`	`Kernel_core`	`anybody here familiar with H323 on Asterisk ?`
`19:24.22`	`Possible`	`not me`
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`19:24.26`	`nextime`	`Kernel_core : good luck`
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`19:24.53`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: seems beronet has new german prompts (http://www.beronet.com/downloads/ast_prompts_de_v2_0.tar.gz)`
`19:25.08`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`yes`
`19:25.17`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`i ve downloaded these`
`19:25.20`	`Kernel_core`	`nextime: I have problem ! I can't compile the original H323 code on debian`
`19:25.21`	`Possible`	`'k`
`19:25.26`	`Kernel_core`	`it seems debian doesn't support it !`
`19:25.48`	`ikey`	`hi any one from india who tried * with ISDN n MFC R2 signaling ?`
`19:25.58`	`nextime`	`Kernel_core : i have chan_h323, chan_oh323, chan_ooh323 and chan_woomera on debian sarge`
`19:26.09`	`Possible`	`another ISDN victim`
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`19:26.25`	`Kernel_core`	`nextime: how did you compiled this !?`
`19:26.37`	`Kernel_core`	`I want to compile chan_h323 but I can't !`
`19:26.56`	`nextime`	`Kernel_core : don't use the libopenh323 from debian packages, remove it if you have installed the deb package, and recompile all from source`
`19:27.25`	`Kernel_core`	`nextime: where do I get libopenh323 , and which version do use ?`
`19:27.26`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`Possible: its english...`
`19:27.30`	`Kernel_core`	`nextime: where do I get libopenh323 , and which version do you use ?`
`19:27.39`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`i ve change all to de`
`19:27.44`	`nextime`	`look at the README in chan/h323 directory on the asterisk source tree`
`19:27.56`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: what is english ? those prompts ?`
`19:28.04`	`nextime`	`you can find here the links to get the right version of ptlib and openh323`
`19:28.09`	`nextime`	`s/ptlib/pwlib`
`19:28.34`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: oh you mean you changed the variables and it still english..`
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`19:29.30`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: does the german prompts support the voicemail prompts ? I mean are they there ? If they ain't there I am sure it will default back to the english ones....I assume...`
`19:29.41`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`yes the prompts`
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`19:30.03`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`i have an folder with de`
`19:30.37`	`Possible`	`yes but does it contain all the prompts you need :)`
`19:30.46`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`�hm`
`19:30.53`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`i dont know`
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`19:31.04`	`Kernel_Core`	`nextime: my problem is this : Tested with Open H.323 version v1.17.1, PWLib v1.9.0 and GCC v3.2.2. Usage of any`
`19:31.05`	`Kernel_Core`	`other versions is not supported.`
`19:31.13`	`Possible`	`I mean there are only like 1200 prompts...so :)`
`19:31.47`	`Kernel_Core`	`I can't compile PWLib1.9.0 and binary version doesn't exist ....`
`19:32.19`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`i ve downloades these: http://www.beronet.com/downloads/ast_prompts_de_v2_0.tar.gz`
`19:33.20`	`Possible`	`hmm..it does have the vm prompts`
`19:34.18`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`yes`
`19:34.41`	`Possible`	`try adding the language=de in the /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf`
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`19:36.12`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`english`
`19:38.45`	`Possible`	`beats me`
`19:39.15`	`Possible`	`let me check something`
`19:40.20`	`Possible`	`okay..`
`19:40.37`	`Possible`	`in extensions.conf...under [general] add language=de`
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`19:42.21`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`english`
`19:42.50`	`Possible`	`and I guess add per extension exten => 300,2,Set(LANGUAGE=de)`
`19:43.00`	`Possible`	`you use Asterisk 1.2 ?`
`19:43.04`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`yes`
`19:43.11`	`Possible`	`then use that syntax`
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`19:44.12`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`[default]`
`19:44.12`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:44.12`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:44.12`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:44.12`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:44.19`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`it doesnt work`
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`19:44.45`	`mutilator`	`what'de cause choppyness on loud audio?`
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`19:44.48`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o anthm] by ChanServ`
`19:45.06`	`mutilator`	`if i talk normal, it sounds fine, but if i raise my voice it cuts out`
`19:45.15`	`Possible`	`mutilator: as in overmodulation ?`
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`19:49.22`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: you read this ? http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+multi-language`
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`19:51.20`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: this is for a sip phone right ?`
`19:51.24`	`mutilator`	`Possible: i dunno`
`19:51.26`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`yes`
`19:51.28`	`*** join/#asterisk irieKEN (i=irieKEN@ppp-71-128-136-86.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net)`
`19:51.50`	`Possible`	`it seems you can set things per channel....try adding language=de in sip.conf under [general]`
`19:52.19`	`Possible`	`mutilator: I don't think I can help you`
`19:52.52`	`irieKEN`	`Would anyone happen to know how to set the SNTP GMT Offset for a Polycom Ip500 via the serverside cfg files?`
`19:53.00`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`Possible: i have half german`
`19:53.05`	`Possible`	`half ?`
`19:53.16`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`it seems that some files are missing`
`19:53.21`	`Possible`	`seems so`
`19:53.36`	`irieKEN`	`ftp.sandeigopchelp.com`
`19:53.36`	`irieKEN`	`U: ip500@sandiegopchelp.com`
`19:53.36`	`irieKEN`	`L: 36gckbxr3m`
`19:53.53`	`irieKEN`	`wtf?`
`19:54.05`	`mutilator`	`uh`
`19:54.06`	`Possible`	`better change some passwd ;)`
`19:54.14`	`irieKEN`	`yeah, it's old anyways.`
`19:54.54`	`irieKEN`	`LOL!`
`19:56.27`	`digime`	`[TK]D-Fender`
`19:57.00`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: I count 197 vm-* files in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds and only 104 in the beronet package`
`19:57.20`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`hmmm`
`19:59.31`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: ls /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/ \| grep vm- \| wc -l`
`19:59.36`	`Possible`	`and ls /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/de/ \| grep vm- \| wc -l`
`20:00.24`	`irieKEN`	`Anyhoo, back to the GMT offset issue... Even though GMT offset is set to "-8" in the sip.cfg file, the phones don't pick up the offset.`
`20:00.29`	`*** join/#asterisk R_Dee (n=user@84-50-41-172-dsl.lsn.estpak.ee)`
`20:00.43`	`irieKEN`	`I would very much appreciate any advice that anyone might have about that;)`
`20:01.01`	`mutilator`	`anyone know anything about AIU online degree programs?`
`20:01.06`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`98`
`20:01.18`	`mutilator`	`any good or worthy?`
`20:01.25`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`104`
`20:03.20`	`Possible`	`98 for the english ones ?`
`20:03.25`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`yes`
`20:03.47`	`Possible`	`hmm..I see I have .ulaw and .gsm files`
`20:04.32`	`pifiu`	`i an ISDN PRI the same as a T1 PRI?`
`20:04.37`	`*** join/#asterisk _deg_ (n=deg@200.250.222.8)`
`20:05.14`	`Possible`	`pifiu: ISDN PRI can be T1/E1 yes`
`20:06.24`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: you also installed the other german files for digits, letters and phonetic ?`
`20:06.35`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`yes`
`20:06.41`	`pifiu`	`but they have ISDN PRI's and T1/E1 PRI's? whats the difference?`
`20:06.55`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`its only the first words in english`
`20:07.12`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`the person with extension 1234 is not available`
`20:07.16`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: what words ?`
`20:07.18`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`and then its german`
`20:07.21`	`Possible`	`ah`
`20:07.23`	`*** join/#asterisk asterboy (n=Snake@S01060204ee2b6007.ed.shawcable.net)`
`20:07.28`	`mutilator`	`ugh`
`20:07.34`	`mutilator`	`ever since i put this tellab echo cancel in`
`20:07.47`	`mutilator`	`ppl are having problems with their fax and cc and foodstamp and whatever other dialin machines`
`20:07.52`	`Possible`	`so that is "the person with extension", 1, 2, 3, 4 and "is not available"`
`20:07.57`	`mutilator`	`the cisco seemed to work a lot beter`
`20:08.03`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`yes`
`20:08.11`	`asterboy`	`out of curiosity, who owns the intellectual rights to the G729 codec?`
`20:08.44`	`Possible`	`pifiu: http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/e1t1.html`
`20:08.55`	`asterboy`	`anyone know?`
`20:09.09`	`Possible`	`ITU owns it`
`20:09.38`	`asterboy`	`interesting that Digium has to charge for it to indemnify themselves because it's not covered under GPL.`
`20:09.42`	`trixter`	`the g.729 consortium`
`20:09.48`	`asterboy`	`ah...thanks guys`
`20:10.05`	`trixter`	`which is comprised of a b unch of phone companies (france, japan, a few others) they all own parts of it`
`20:10.13`	`Possible`	`http://www.itu.int/home/index.html`
`20:10.35`	`trixter`	`http://www.sipro.com/g729members.php`
`20:10.41`	`asterboy`	`How does it compare to the other codecs out there? (knowing that it's used in low bandwidth situations)`
`20:10.45`	`trixter`	`sipro.com is the entity that is authorized to issue licenses`
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`20:11.37`	`trixter`	`the audio quality is good, although I think AMR (also patented) has a beter vocoder and thus better sound`
`20:11.45`	`trixter`	`AMR however isnt a codec per se its just part of a codec`
`20:12.04`	`trixter`	`so you could for example have GSM/AMR which would be patented but sound better than GSM/FE which is totally free`
`20:12.21`	`asterboy`	`good to know`
`20:13.04`	`trixter`	`g.729 has the advantage of a very small payload, and there are ways to make the total bandwidth used less overall`
`20:13.14`	`trixter`	`CRTP is one example if you want RTP, iax2 trunking is another`
`20:13.24`	`trixter`	`with iax2 trunking 100 g.729 calls will take 0.8Mbps`
`20:13.30`	`trixter`	`roughly`
`20:13.31`	`asterboy`	`it does have software overhead though, at least in asterisk.`
`20:13.46`	`trixter`	`yes but sangoma is coming out with hardware cards that wont be that much more that will do it`
`20:13.48`	`asterboy`	`The polycom phones have it in hardware.`
`20:13.55`	`asterboy`	`sweet`
`20:13.58`	`trixter`	`in extreme quantity the patent license for g.729 can be $0.15/license`
`20:14.04`	`trixter`	`but that is millions of licenses`
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`20:14.24`	`trixter`	`I think sangoma is gonna have a 672 channel board out before the end of this year`
`20:14.35`	`trixter`	`which coincidentally is the same capacity as a ds3`
`20:14.39`	`asterboy`	`omg, that is a lot of channels.`
`20:14.57`	`asterboy`	`great if your a voip provider`
`20:15.01`	`trixter`	`and sangoma cards already can drop packets off the cards, thus reducing your irqs from say 1000/sec (digium boards) to 50/sec`
`20:15.02`	`clive-`	`do you guys recommend a SMP kernel with hyperthreading turned off ?`
`20:15.11`	`trixter`	`which reduces cpu dramatically - that is an existing feature`
`20:15.18`	`kink0`	`trixter. speaking about sangoma, is right sangoma are about 25% less power than original Digium cards ?`
`20:15.29`	`trixter`	`define 'less power'`
`20:15.52`	`kink0`	`trister: hmmm ... less performance`
`20:16.18`	`kink0`	`about how much bus cycles needle to do the work`
`20:16.34`	`kink0`	`or due bus frequency`
`20:16.38`	`trixter`	`ahh using the zap drivers no they arent`
`20:16.39`	`clive-`	`sangoma use less cpu from the little I know`
`20:16.43`	`trixter`	`becuase they have to support the digium way of doing it`
`20:16.48`	`trixter`	`using chan_wanpipe however they are`
`20:17.07`	`trixter`	`and it can even drop further with some of the newer things wanpipe supports ...`
`20:17.27`	`clive-`	`ok, so smp kernel is preferable with hyperthreading off?`
`20:17.35`	`trixter`	`I have also found that often sangoma cards cost less too, plus they will do ATM mode if youe T1 is just data which is handy`
`20:18.02`	`kink0`	`ahh ok, the question is for I bough a digium T405 .. and actually there 29 channels on one E1 ussing g729`
`20:18.28`	`kink0`	`and I am not sure how much E1 can support this dual xeon 3Ghz`
`20:18.37`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`ok how can i get my voicemail messages? i get emails but how can i call the asterisk to det the messages`
`20:18.38`	`kink0`	`( ussing g729 of course )`
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`20:18.43`	`trixter`	`if you are using a software g.729 implementation then figure an average of 30MHz per channel on a modern cpu`
`20:18.50`	`trixter`	`that isnt a fixed number just an average`
`20:19.03`	`Qwell`	`30mhz?`
`20:19.12`	`trixter`	`anything else the box does needs to be counted in addition, echo cancelation is also about 30MHz, if you run apps like voicemail, or something that adds more`
`20:19.21`	`trixter`	`Qwell: that is what intel claims`
`20:19.51`	`kink0`	`that will measn a dual 3GHz will be able to manage up to 200 channels !!`
`20:20.22`	`kink0`	`3000 x 2 / 30`
`20:20.24`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: you can have it set that after emailing it deletes the msgs`
`20:20.44`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`how?`
`20:21.42`	`trixter`	`kink0: yeah but if you go with a hardware g.,729 implementation (I dont know about prices but sangoma is suggesting that it wont really cost that much more, maybe $70-100 for 672 channels) then you can do WAY more calls off that same hardware using g.729`
`20:21.44`	`trixter`	`which is a bonus`
`20:22.34`	`Possible`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]: I dunno...all I know that AMP has an option for that in the extensions screen`
`20:22.45`	`Phoenix[Y-LAN]`	`ok`
`20:22.45`	`kink0`	`trixter, sangoma has a DSP g729 licenced ? no needle to use software for that codec ?`
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`20:23.13`	`trixter`	`they dont sell it yet, its scheduled to come out this year though`
`20:23.15`	`asterboy`	`Digium says overhead to consider with dual Intel Xeon 1.8GHz is 60 concurrent G.729 calls of 80 with the Dual 2.8GHz.`
`20:23.20`	`trixter`	`at least afaik they dont sell it yet`
`20:23.55`	`trixter`	`if they are saying that they are prolly adding in an average of the entire call`
`20:24.14`	`trixter`	`the 30MHz was just g.729 not anything else, why I made comments about applicataions adding to it, etc`
`20:24.21`	`kink0`	`I had had good experiences with sangoma serial (v35) cards, but never used voIP sangoma (yet)`
`20:26.59`	`brookshire`	`just use gentoo ;)`
`20:27.00`	`Possible`	`is there a yast cli version btw ?`
`20:27.04`	`Qwell`	`brookshire++`
`20:27.33`	`rpm`	`learn linux, then once you know what your doing if you want something easy install gentoo.`
`20:27.35`	`Possible`	`brookshire: I need a distro that will support this POS ISDN card....and it seems suse does that`
`20:27.37`	`twisla`	`Possible: there is a ncurses version`
`20:28.14`	`Possible`	`twisla: 'k`
`20:28.30`	`brookshire`	`gentoo usually has the fewest incompatiblity problems, lol.. you just have to work with it a lot`
`20:28.51`	`Possible`	`will AMP and the like compile on it ?`
`20:29.03`	`brookshire`	`you don't compile AMP`
`20:29.06`	`Possible`	`I tried debian and that sucked..`
`20:29.22`	`brookshire`	`it's a collection of php scripts`
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`20:29.24`	`Possible`	`well install...you need pear support and stuff`
`20:29.25`	`rpm`	`probably because you don't know what your doing.`
`20:29.53`	`Possible`	`rpm: that was addressed to me ?`
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`20:30.06`	`rpm`	`yes.`
`20:30.15`	`Possible`	`well you probably right`
`20:30.19`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`20:30.24`	Lino`	`i dunno if i'm right here`
`20:30.36`	`rpm`	`i'm right here where im sitting`
`20:30.37`	`Possible`	`but no packages were available for AMP anyway`
`20:30.37`	`brookshire`	`you'll learn alot about linux if you install gentoo :D`
`20:30.44`	`brookshire`	`if you can get it installed`
`20:30.49`	`brookshire`	`it's not easy`
`20:30.49`	Lino`	`but my pbx died today`
`20:30.53`	`rpm`	`www.linuxfromscratch.org`
`20:31.05`	`brookshire`	`lino: are you running asterisk?`
`20:31.08`	Lino`	`and i don't wanna spend several 1000 euros for a new one`
`20:31.13`	Lino`	`i already have a backup`
`20:31.14`	`trixter`	`I wonder if LFS ever fixed the problems with the bootstrap stuff`
`20:31.24`	Lino`	`but i want to long term switch to asterisk`
`20:31.25`	`trixter`	`they didnt do it quite right, they omited one build that was needed to make it totally clean`
`20:31.27`	`asterboy`	`you'll learn more about linux if you install LFS.`
`20:31.36`	`trixter`	`but I havent looked at it in a long time`
`20:31.54`	`Possible`	`rpm: to be honest...I don't want to learn linux...all I want is a PBX that works...so I try to take shortcuts...A@H is one...and it sucks...Xorcom Rapid is another and it sucks even more...`
`20:31.56`	`brookshire`	`lino: so do you have proprietary phones?`
`20:32.01`	Lino`	`no`
`20:32.05`	`brookshire`	`voip ones?`
`20:32.05`	`trixter`	`personally I dont think someone should be required to learn everything that is required to use a system, remember most people arent developers so learning how to build a toolchain isnt always required`
`20:32.11`	`ange`	`in fact since installing lfs or gentoo is just reading a tutorial, you would really learn a lot about linux just by reading a book about it ...`
`20:32.11`	`Possible`	`not that it don't work...but the ISDN support is NOT THERE`
`20:32.12`	Lino`	`they are so called systemtelefone`
`20:32.13`	`trixter`	`even knowing what a toolchain is may not be required`
`20:32.27`	Lino`	`so they are using an s0 bus`
`20:33.00`	`Possible`	`trixter: my sentiment exactly`
`20:33.06`	Lino`	`i don't need to keep them`
`20:33.09`	Lino`	`i hate them anyway`
`20:33.10`	`twisla`	`ange: so true :)`
`20:33.21`	`Possible`	`I mean...I am a coder...but for this I don't want to be one`
`20:33.29`	`trixter`	`I also think that its far worse for someone to not know anything and try to go to a more expert route than starting out gradually and building upon that over time`
`20:33.33`	Lino`	`btw, the lightnig bolt killed the wiring anyway so i'll have to redo that too`
`20:33.38`	`brookshire`	`lol.. well the easiest way to switch is go all voip on your lan`
`20:33.45`	Lino`	`ok`
`20:33.48`	Lino`	`that sounds good`
`20:34.05`	`brookshire`	`but there are other paths as well`
`20:34.11`	Lino`	`the lan (48 clients) was protected by a UPS`
`20:34.15`	`brookshire`	`you can us cheap analog phones too`
`20:34.19`	`brookshire`	`us = use`
`20:34.29`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`20:34.48`	Lino`	`dunno...`
`20:35.02`	Lino`	`is there any equivalent to the nortel meridian as voip phone?`
`20:36.13`	`brookshire`	`i'm sure there are`
`20:36.24`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`20:36.39`	`brookshire`	`polycom makes some good phones`
`20:36.41`	`brookshire`	`so does cisco`
`20:36.44`	Lino`	`i've still got a big bunch of cisco 7960 in the basement`
`20:37.05`	`brookshire`	`qwell is the expert on cisco though`
`20:37.06`	`brookshire`	`HEHE`
`20:37.08`	`Possible`	`grandstream has a nice one too`
`20:37.11`	Lino`	`they look good, they work with power over ethernet so what`
`20:37.11`	`Possible`	`and cheap`
`20:37.44`	Lino`	`ok the cisco stuff is not cheap but good, i guess`
`20:38.04`	`brookshire`	`polycom can sometimes be half the price.. and just as good`
`20:38.23`	`brookshire`	`just depends`
`20:38.26`	`Possible`	`http://www.grandstream.com/y-gxp2000.htm`
`20:38.27`	Lino`	`yeah but i got the cisco stuff and why shouldnt i use it`
`20:38.31`	`Possible`	`that's the one I use`
`20:38.34`	`brookshire`	`nothing wrong with cisco`
`20:38.41`	`brookshire`	`and you can mix and match voip phones anyways`
`20:38.57`	Lino`	`yeah`
`20:39.34`	`brookshire`	`what kind of incoming phone lines do you have?`
`20:39.41`	Lino`	`several ISDN`
`20:39.47`	Lino`	`s0`
`20:39.54`	`Possible`	`BRI ?`
`20:39.57`	`brookshire`	`ok`
`20:39.57`	Lino`	`4 or 6 lines`
`20:39.58`	`brookshire`	`yeah..`
`20:40.10`	Lino`	`bri is the 30 lines thingy, isn't it?`
`20:40.16`	`Possible`	`2 lines`
`20:40.18`	`trixter`	`no`
`20:40.21`	Lino`	`pmx`
`20:40.22`	`brookshire`	`that's an E1`
`20:40.23`	`trixter`	`that is a pri when done over an E1`
`20:40.34`	Lino`	`ok`
`20:40.39`	`brookshire`	`bri has 2 channels`
`20:40.44`	Lino`	`i only know the "Deutsche Telekom" abbr stuff`
`20:40.54`	`trixter`	`technically 3 channels, just one is a D channel where 2 are B :P`
`20:40.59`	Lino`	`yeah`
`20:41.06`	`brookshire`	`trixter: the d isn't worth much`
`20:41.08`	Lino`	`2 lines usable for speech`
`20:41.21`	`trixter`	`its useful for signalling and if isdn was ever integrated other stuff`
`20:41.35`	`Possible`	Lino`: so you have a BRI card working on Asterisk ?
`20:41.43`	Lino`	`exxon uses the d channel for credit card clearing`
`20:41.44`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`20:41.50`	Lino`	`let me do a database query`
`20:41.59`	Lino`	`eicon diel`
`20:42.08`	Lino`	`is 75x AVM Fritz! enough?`
`20:42.25`	`Possible`	`I have a Fritz!Card PCI here that I can't get supported`
`20:42.33`	Lino`	`ok`
`20:42.34`	`Possible`	`it's a passive card`
`20:42.36`	Lino`	`not good enough`
`20:42.39`	Lino`	`i have the B1`
`20:42.41`	Lino`	`or E1`
`20:42.42`	`Possible`	`yeah`
`20:42.44`	Lino`	`what is it called?`
`20:42.51`	Lino`	`active avm card`
`20:42.54`	`Possible`	`FritzCard PCI`
`20:43.23`	Lino`	`no the active one`
`20:43.23`	`Possible`	`it was only 80 euro...but I understand Billion has an even cheaper card..`
`20:43.30`	`Possible`	`no..it's passive`
`20:43.40`	Lino`	`there at least used to be an active one`
`20:43.44`	Lino`	`let me do another query`
`20:44.00`	Lino`	`AVM ISDN B1`
`20:44.00`	Lino`	`and`
`20:44.03`	Lino`	`AVM ISDN C4`
`20:44.07`	Lino`	`is in the warehouse`
`20:44.10`	`livinded`	`why don't you need to always use an answer() to start the extension and is there a reason to or not to in some cases?`
`20:44.28`	`Possible`	`yeah those seem to be supported pretty well...but not this one`
`20:44.37`	`brookshire`	`i know that baronet makes a card`
`20:44.39`	Lino`	`the C4 is an active controller with 4 jacks in it`
`20:44.41`	`Possible`	`but they cost 6 times more`
`20:44.48`	`brookshire`	`but i'm really unfamiliar with bri :(`
`20:44.49`	`brookshire`	`http://shop.beronet.com/product_info.php/products_id/40?osCsid=366ba873a9b6ad5daec15a1c77b18e78`
`20:45.33`	`Possible`	`atm I only need to support 1 s0 port`
`20:45.36`	`Possible`	`ISDN2`
`20:45.39`	Lino`	`the c4 is listed with 680 euro + tax`
`20:45.42`	`Possible`	`thus BRI`
`20:46.14`	`Possible`	Lino`: yep...and I paid 80 euros for my card
`20:46.36`	`Possible`	`who is supposed to be well supported under linux..`
`20:46.44`	`Possible`	`prolly only suse..`
`20:46.55`	`brookshire`	`linux is linux`
`20:46.57`	`Possible`	`but I am using CentOS here`
`20:47.27`	`Possible`	`first of all I can't get CAPI to work..`
`20:47.44`	`Possible`	`I get it compiled and all...the driver too...and then nothing`
`20:47.48`	`Possible`	`won't load`
`20:48.47`	`Possible`	`I get this error when I use capiinit`
`20:48.47`	`Possible`	`ERROR: cannot open /dev/capi20 nor /dev/isdn/capi20 - No such file or directory (2)`
`20:48.59`	`Possible`	`and that file is there`
`20:49.23`	`Possible`	`I use kernel 2.6.9-22.EL`
`20:49.39`	Lino`	`hmm`
`20:49.40`	`Possible`	`even 2.6.9-22.0.2.EL`
`20:49.46`	Lino`	`that sucks`
`20:49.54`	`Possible`	`tell me about it`
`20:49.59`	Lino`	`i used a fritz with a very old linux version`
`20:50.04`	Lino`	`like in the year 2001`
`20:50.07`	Lino`	`no`
`20:50.08`	Lino`	`earlier`
`20:50.12`	Lino`	`1998`
`20:50.33`	`Possible`	`so much for progress`
`20:51.05`	Lino`	`and it was successful`
`20:51.13`	Lino`	`i did dialup and stuff, pretty normal thing`
`20:51.22`	Lino`	`it was actually easier to get that thing to work`
`20:51.25`	`Possible`	`anyway...if there is another BRI card that will work out of the box with like A@H or something...great..I will pay extra for that`
`20:51.32`	Lino`	`than getting the 3c905btx network card to work`
`20:51.44`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`20:51.58`	Lino`	`you are from belgium so the ISDN standard should be the same`
`20:52.05`	`Possible`	`yep`
`20:52.09`	Lino`	`in germany we have 2 different types of isdn`
`20:52.15`	Lino`	`DSS1 and 1TR6 i believe`
`20:52.37`	`Possible`	`I need the card to work in nl and be...the ISDN standard is the same`
`20:53.32`	Lino`	`thats euro isdn`
`20:53.35`	Lino`	`DSS1`
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`20:53.37`	`Possible`	`correct`
`20:54.38`	Lino`	`the difference is MSN / EAZ`
`20:54.42`	Lino`	`but thats not important`
`20:54.46`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`20:54.52`	Lino`	`i'll build a linux box tomorrow`
`20:54.59`	Lino`	`with a fritz! card and a b1`
`20:55.02`	Lino`	`with SuSE`
`20:55.11`	Lino`	`and i'll post my experience right here`
`20:55.13`	`Possible`	`suse should work`
`20:55.21`	Lino`	`but your distribution does not?`
`20:55.34`	`Possible`	`I have suse 10 here on a disk...I wonder if can strip the GUI..`
`20:55.39`	Lino`	`evil distribution. maybe it's a sith lord and we don't realize it... g`
`20:55.47`	Lino`	`you wanna have suse without GUI?`
`20:55.47`	`Possible`	`well Suse has capi support out of the box`
`20:55.48`	Lino`	`no problem`
`20:55.55`	`Possible`	`since 8.0`
`20:56.03`	Lino`	`just uncheck GUI during the installation ;)`
`20:56.23`	`Possible`	`hmm...I thought I could only choose OR KDE...OR Gnome`
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`20:56.45`	`Possible`	`I guess I should install it again then..`
`20:57.09`	`Possible`	`lets hope yast has a package for AMP`
`20:57.12`	Lino`	`just got another avm active controller via ebay`
`20:57.16`	Lino`	`for 7 euro`
`20:57.20`	`Possible`	`:)`
`20:57.21`	`AlexCTI`	`Hi, someone can helo me to set a ring down group?`
`20:57.52`	`Possible`	Lino`: got one or found one ?
`20:58.35`	`markit`	Lino`: don't know if you know that for hfc-s isdn bri cards (so not fritz) there is a new layer, visdn ( http://www.visdn.org/ )
`20:59.19`	`Possible`	`visdn ??`
`20:59.40`	`Possible`	`better/worse than mISDN ?`
`21:00.48`	`markit`	`well, I've no experience with mISDN, visdn is tailored for european isdn, has echo cancellation, and other feature you can read in that site`
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`21:01.04`	`markit`	`you have to pick up a recent nightly build, if you want to experiment`
`21:01.05`	`Possible`	`hmm`
`21:01.17`	`markit`	`http://www.visdn.org/overview.php`
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`21:01.44`	`markit`	`btw, are you using native transfer? (atxfer, the one with *2)`
`21:03.04`	`Possible`	`who me ?`
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`21:05.38`	`stoffell`	`markit, is there echo can in visdn nowadays?`
`21:06.02`	`Possible`	`okay...I need a break`
`21:06.16`	`Possible`	Lino`: I will see you tommorrow I hope with good news :)
`21:06.30`	`Possible`	`see ya`
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`21:09.14`	`markit`	`stoffell: echo cancell has recently been introduced in visdn`
`21:09.28`	`markit`	`is anyone using native transfer? (atxfer, the one with *2)`
`21:09.45`	`stoffell`	`markit, nice to see.. now BRI users can catch up with cvs * :)`
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`21:10.47`	`stoffell`	`markit, i've been playing with atxfer but don't use it in production`
`21:11.40`	`markit`	`stoffell: mmm seems buggy to me, it looses the language settings, and at some points stops to work (I've experimented with 2 sip phones, transferring from one to the other multiple times)`
`21:12.18`	`markit`	`any developer here that want to take care of the problem?`
`21:12.43`	`stoffell`	`markit h, didn't have those problems.. (guess there's at least 1 dev here :p)`
`21:14.05`	`markit`	`it's a feature introduced in asterisk time ago, so I guess no one cares about manteining/debugging it`
`21:16.00`	`stoffell`	`oh, i see.. that's not good..`
`21:16.49`	`stoffell`	`markit, maybe try on asterisk-dev?`
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`21:20.49`	`Niveous`	`Anyone knows how to install Asterisk@home on full install of centos... I thought it I just run the script it would work since it comes with a hacked down of centos`
`21:21.06`	`Niveous`	`I thought it would work`
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`21:43.27`	`dja_`	`hi, any idea what would make extensions "look busy" when they're not? I've got 2 extensions setup, they can both dial out just fine, but if I try to dial in to them, or if I use one to dial the other, they are "busy"`
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`21:45.14`	`SkramX`	`dja_: same phone or different phones for each line?`
`21:45.22`	`tjtoocool`	`Is it possible to Goto a named priority outside of the current extension/context if I explicitly name the context and extension, i.e. Goto(newcontext,s,Label)?`
`21:46.13`	`dja_`	`one is a soft phone (x-lite) and the other is a cordless plugged into a Linksys pap2`
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`21:47.24`	`dja_`	`hrm...I must have really broken something...the x-lite cannot call itself, it rings busy (even though I have call waiting activated)`
`21:49.50`	`dja_`	`(I get "Called failed: 486 Busy Here")`
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`22:20.10`	`x86`	`hmm`
`22:20.34`	`x86`	`any way to make extensions pushed within an IVR _not_ show up as a seperate call in CDR?`
`22:20.51`	`x86`	`i'm using mysql for CDR records, if that makes a difference`
`22:21.35`	`bsdfreak`	`is inside of here`
`22:30.14`	`x86`	`how do i Playback text to a user?`
`22:30.39`	`x86`	`for example, i want to get the load average and put it into a variable, then sound out the text to the calling user?`
`22:32.25`	`SkramX`	`x86: look up how to do a perl-agi, that will be easiest.`
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`22:37.58`	`brookshire`	`there is one out there somewhere`
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`22:44.12`	`SkramX`	`:)`
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`22:55.59`	Lino`	`just got another cisco 7960G for 30 euro`
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`23:06.35`	`SkramX`	`oh fun.`
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`23:25.03`	`saftsack`	`whats going on with freenode?`
`23:25.52`	`Andr3w_`	`netsplit++`
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`23:30.54`	`riddlebox`	`Andr3w_, I need the password to enable it from the ivr, I tried blank it didnt work`
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`23:32.12`	`riddlebox`	`nm, I forgot the webmanagement stuff is port 8080`
`23:32.37`	`Andr3w_`	`mine is on 80, what model do you have?`
`23:32.43`	`Andr3w_`	`you can press **** from a phone connected to it`
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`23:32.50`	`Andr3w_`	`to get a menu`
`23:33.09`	Lino`	`.`
`23:33.59`	Lino`	`just got another cisco 7960G for 30 euro, sip firmware`
`23:34.09`	Lino`	`phones like that do work with asterisk, don't they?`
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`23:34.45`	`riddlebox`	`2100`
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`23:38.02`	Lino`	`new pc is set up`
`23:38.19`	Lino`	`will a dual processor xeon d 64bit be fast enough?`
`23:38.21`	Lino`	`lol`
`23:38.26`	Lino`	`(the only server i had at hand)`
`23:40.17`	`Qwell`	`no`
`23:40.26`	`Qwell`	`You'll only get like 5 simultaneous calls with that`
`23:40.48`	`Qwell`	Lino`: How'd you get a 7960 for 30 euro?
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`23:43.22`	`Winkie`	`o`
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`23:43.25`	Lino`	`i know a lot of people`
`23:43.29`	Lino`	`and i sold my soul for it`
`23:43.32`	`Andr3w_`	`well my p233 with 128mb ramcan handle more than 7 simultaneous calls bridged to a meetme conference :)`
`23:43.41`	Lino`	`because one of the people i know is satan himself g`
`23:43.55`	`Andr3w_`	`but the faster the processor the less cals it can handle`
`23:43.55`	Lino`	`no actually there are a lot of companys in germany with almost NO cash`
`23:43.56`	`Winkie`	`Andr3w_: not transcoding though are you :)`
`23:44.01`	Lino`	`maybe its stolen i dunno`
`23:44.02`	`Andr3w_`	`all ulaw :)`
`23:44.03`	`Qwell`	Lino`: well, get me one...satan already owns my sould, so...
`23:44.05`	`Qwell`	`soul*`
`23:44.10`	`Qwell`	`he'll be cool with it`
`23:44.11`	`Winkie`	`Andr3w_: i'm all alaw laffo`
`23:44.15`	Lino`	`g`
`23:44.34`	Lino`	`it'll be delivered on monday`
`23:44.41`	Lino`	`or tuesday`
`23:44.55`	Lino`	`i'll have a look at it and then i'll decide if i pay the bill or not ;)`
`23:44.59`	`Winkie`	Lino`: what are you getting
`23:45.09`	Lino`	`the phone`
`23:45.15`	Lino`	`a power supply`
`23:45.17`	`asterboy`	`What is the command to terminate a call in the extensions.conf dialplan? The call goes to voicemail after I hang up.`
`23:45.21`	Lino`	`no license`
`23:45.22`	`Qwell`	Lino`: check for the serial number on the bottom :p
`23:45.26`	Lino`	`:-P`
`23:45.29`	`Qwell`	`if it's scratched off...send it this way :D`
`23:45.30`	`Winkie`	`asterboy: Hangup()`
`23:45.30`	Lino`	`maybe engineering sample`
`23:45.37`	`asterboy`	`that is what I thought.`
`23:45.39`	`Winkie`	Lino`: what phone, cisco?
`23:45.41`	`*** join/#asterisk xevo (n=bob@c-67-182-205-227.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)`
`23:45.52`	Lino`	`yeah`
`23:45.55`	`xevo`	`Does anyone know what filename AUTOMON uses when it saves the audio?`
`23:46.03`	Lino`	`7960G with 7.5 sip firmware`
`23:46.18`	Lino`	`how can i listen to a GSM soundfile`
`23:46.19`	Lino`	`?`
`23:46.25`	`Qwell`	`Playback()`
`23:46.33`	Lino`	`outside of asterisk`
`23:46.33`	Lino`	`:D`
`23:46.45`	`asterboy`	`pwd`
`23:46.47`	`asterboy`	`oops`
`23:46.56`	`austinnichols101`	`send it to your gsm phone`
`23:47.00`	`Mavvie`	Lino`: xmms, winamp
`23:47.02`	Lino`	`winamp`
`23:47.06`	`asterboy`	`hmmm..not sure why my call goes to voicemail after termination.`
`23:47.09`	Lino`	`do i have to rename it to wav?`
`23:47.13`	`xevo`	`Does anyone here even know what automon is?`
`23:47.16`	`*** part/#asterisk evilbuny (n=evilbunn@203-206-246-8.dyn.iinet.net.au)`
`23:47.31`	`Qwell`	`xevo: why not try it and find out what it saves it as?`
`23:47.48`	Lino`	`winamp does not like it`
`23:47.53`	Lino`	`vlc does not like it`
`23:48.29`	`xevo`	`I'm surrounded by production boxes and don't have the luxury`
`23:48.32`	`asterboy`	`${EXTEN:2}, what is the "2" portion of the command?`
`23:48.35`	Lino`	`ah`
`23:48.42`	Lino`	`wavepad`
`23:48.44`	`Qwell`	`asterboy: strip the first two digits`
`23:48.51`	`asterboy`	`ah.`
`23:48.59`	`Qwell`	`xevo: You can use automon on a production box...it's not like it'll crash`
`23:49.15`	`asterboy`	`When calling, my phone rings 3 times and goes to voicemail.`
`23:49.29`	`asterboy`	`Need to change that to ring more.`
`23:50.04`	`xevo`	`Can't take that risk... we never have less than 200 calls going through it`
`23:50.05`	`asterboy`	`I'm thinking a lot of these settings are outside my control. My VOIP provider must control that stuff.`
`23:50.22`	`asterboy`	`pwd`
`23:50.29`	`Qwell`	`xevo: Are you telling me you don't have a dev box?`
`23:50.32`	`xevo`	`I'll have to wait until I get out of this colo I guess`
`23:51.53`	`*** join/#asterisk sivana (n=sivana@mixdown.ca)`
`23:53.19`	`*** join/#asterisk tehdely (n=delysiid@home.teambarry.org)`
`23:54.15`	`*** join/#asterisk twisla (i=twisla@lutin.jard.in)`
`23:54.48`	Lino`	`olol`
`23:55.06`	Lino`	`"you have been kidnapped by monkeys"`
`23:55.12`	Lino`	`why is this part of the sounds distribution?`
`23:56.43`	`*** join/#asterisk Eggplant (i=No@dsl-859.cascadeaccess.com)`
`23:58.04`	`*** join/#asterisk niZon (n=ilt@S010600080db4ab60.wp.shawcable.net)`
`23:58.19`	`xevo`	`Asterisk has a lot of useless stuff like that`
`23:58.24`	Lino`	`yeah`
`23:58.26`	Lino`	`i noticed`
`23:58.35`	Lino`	`"something is going terribly wrong here"`
`23:58.47`	Lino`	`actually i'm laughing my a** off`
`23:58.49`	`dpryo`	`�This is not the extension you're looking for..�`
`23:59.01`	Lino`	`yeah`
`23:59.04`	Lino`	`i like stuff like that`
`23:59.04`	`dpryo`	`:)`
`23:59.36`	Lino`	`something like on the 1st of april`
`23:59.46`	Lino`	`"welcome to voicemail, you have been kidnapped by monkeys"`
`23:59.48`	`*** join/#asterisk Whisk (n=whisk@whisk.gotadsl.co.uk)`
`23:59.49`	Lino`	`or`

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