irclog2html for #asterisk on 20060311

`00:00.44`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: hey man, i appreciate you fixing my extensions.conf... my IVR works like a champ now :)`
`00:07.13`	`*** join/#asterisk AlexCTI (i=AlexCTI@12.sub-70-197-162.myvzw.com)`
`00:07.49`	`robin_sz`	`OK, question for you ... using the standard voicemail thingy ...`
`00:08.04`	`robin_sz`	`we record our own message using the usual option`
`00:08.06`	`robin_sz`	`and ...`
`00:08.27`	`robin_sz`	`poxy thing still has Alison saying "please leave your message after the tone" at thened of it`
`00:08.44`	`robin_sz`	`(or was it after the beep?)`
`00:08.50`	`Qwell[]`	`beep`
`00:08.57`	`robin_sz`	`how to get rid of that?`
`00:08.59`	`robin_sz`	`wait ...`
`00:09.13`	`robin_sz`	`maybe it was "after the sound of the Llama"`
`00:10.20`	`robin_sz`	`anyway,`
`00:10.55`	`robin_sz`	`as nice as it is to hear Alison, we need her not at that point .. where am de right bit to modify on a crap sor t of way?`
`00:11.24`	`robin_sz`	`oh, that reminds me ... vmail.cgi .. the voicemail web CGI thing?`
`00:11.32`	`file`	`robin_sz: it's a voicemail option...`
`00:11.37`	`robin_sz`	`I re wrote it to "use strict"`
`00:11.57`	`file`	`* 's' then instructions for leaving the message will be skipped.`
`00:12.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : keep in mind that your 2 classes (friends & loca) all have the same access... hardly worth having a seperate context for at the moment... could be cleaned up`
`00:12.30`	`robin_sz`	`file " * 's' then instructions for leaving the message will be skipped." ... err`
`00:12.40`	`robin_sz`	`that probably means something right?`
`00:12.41`	`file`	`I got that from show application voicemail`
`00:12.52`	`file`	`it's an option you pass to the voicemail application`
`00:12.58`	`file`	`the "please leave your blah blah blah" are the instructions`
`00:13.02`	`robin_sz`	`right ...`
`00:13.02`	`file`	`use the s option and they won't be played`
`00:13.12`	`robin_sz`	`oh, right thats not what I want`
`00:13.17`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: i'm going to have different peers i dont want friends having access to :)`
`00:13.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86, down the road then? Sure....`
`00:13.33`	`robin_sz`	`I want the instructions`
`00:13.38`	`robin_sz`	`BUT`
`00:13.43`	`file`	`picky people`
`00:13.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : There is still more I'd suggest for your setup but I didn't want it to take too much longer before showing results.`
`00:13.54`	`robin_sz`	`when a user records their own message`
`00:14.03`	`robin_sz`	`I dont want any other bits tacked on the end`
`00:14.48`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: mod away ;)`
`00:14.52`	`robin_sz`	`san in your eye?`
`00:14.59`	`robin_sz`	`sand`
`00:15.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : you'd have to give it to me again, I only have it at work.`
`00:15.30`	`robin_sz`	`anyway ...`
`00:15.33`	`Zodiacal`	`groogs okie i got it to work, i was using SIP/70, it needed to be PARK/71,72,etc..`
`00:15.39`	`x86`	`it's not a big deal atm honestly ;)`
`00:15.41`	`robin_sz`	`having munged the Perl vor vmail.cgi ...`
`00:16.00`	`robin_sz`	`where should I post it / send it/ paste it?`
`00:16.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : I've got some nifty stuff to add pretty quick now if you like`
`00:16.13`	`robin_sz`	`or shoudl I just let it fester on my box?`
`00:16.14`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: such as?`
`00:16.33`	`*** join/#asterisk sandos (n=sandos@me-0-50-da-e0-bb-36.2.cust.bredband2.com)`
`00:16.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86, count-down timers for non-response, variable stdexten macro with more functionaliy, *codes, etc... lots`
`00:16.56`	`robin_sz`	`sigh ...`
`00:17.02`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: hold on a sec :)`
`00:17.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : and like usual if you don't like it... Alt-F4 :)`
`00:17.38`	`robin_sz`	`its raining .. .and his navigation skills are totally crap.`
`00:19.25`	`x86`	`http://pastebin.ca/45201`
`00:19.28`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender:`
`00:21.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : After leaving a VM, they are dumped in a funny place....`
`00:21.14`	`justinu`	`robin_sz: leopards are pretty cool`
`00:21.32`	`[av]bani`	`[TK]D-Fender: what section does feature.1.name="presence" go in the phone1.cfg ?`
`00:21.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`should hang up or something... or return from the macro at worst.`
`00:21.36`	`*** join/#asterisk SplasPood (n=jwb@206.252.198.100)`
`00:22.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : its in sip.cfg ...`
`00:22.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : Have you tested what happens after you leave the VM system in STDEXTEN there and tried punching in numbers?`
`00:23.57`	`robin_sz`	`justinu: you have sound card in your PC? an`
`00:24.01`	`justinu`	`yes`
`00:24.03`	`robin_sz`	`d speakers?`
`00:24.08`	`justinu`	`check and check`
`00:24.17`	`Zodiacal`	`groogs somthing strange. after i pickup a parked call and then hang up, FOP still shows the park blinking and counting down. and when it gets down to 0 it still blinks.. any ideas?`
`00:24.47`	`robin_sz`	`justinu: http://www.rathergood.com/looking/ :)`
`00:25.18`	`Zodiacal`	`groogs heres my park config for FOP. does it look right? http://pastebin.com/595553`
`00:25.45`	`*** join/#asterisk bjohnson (n=bjohnson@i216-58-10-143.cybersurf.com)`
`00:27.43`	`justinu`	`robin_sz: truly bizzare`
`00:28.08`	`Zodiacal`	`can FOP do assisted transfers?`
`00:29.12`	`robin_sz`	`justinu: why thankyou ;)`
`00:32.09`	`Zodiacal`	`did everyone leave for the weekend or somthin? ;)`
`00:32.23`	`Alric`	`I wish I was gone for the weekend.`
`00:32.59`	`*** join/#asterisk Navire (n=navire@200.199.61.142)`
`00:33.06`	`Navire`	`Hi, folks`
`00:33.23`	`*** join/#asterisk \|dennis\| (i=dennis@200.32.215.84)`
`00:34.32`	`Navire`	`How to one account sip master and others sip virtual number?`
`00:35.31`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: you can leave the VM system without hanging up a call?`
`00:36.13`	`x86`	`where can i get a specific 800 number, either IAX2 peered, or forwarded to my real DID?`
`00:37.51`	`*** join/#asterisk fugitivo (n=ajf@201.255.176.98)`
`00:38.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : yup`
`00:39.18`	`*** join/#asterisk Vitux (n=LNX@cable-63-135-21-193.sudbury.dyn.personainc.net)`
`00:40.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : #`
`00:42.13`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: it says "goodbye" then i get a busy signal`
`00:43.09`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: also, in my voicemail extension definition, i have 1,VoiceMailMain; 2,Playback(Goodbye); 3,Hangup`
`00:43.34`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: when i hit # in the voicemail system, the CLI shows it playing goodbye, and then hanging up the line`
`00:43.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : I mean in STDEXTEN after a CALLER leaves a vm.. look what happens...`
`00:43.58`	`x86`	`ah`
`00:43.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : you copied yours right off voip-info :)`
`00:44.02`	`x86`	`the Goto(default,s,1) ?`
`00:44.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`not the best sample :)`
`00:44.07`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: right ;)`
`00:44.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`yes`
`00:44.10`	`x86`	`hehe`
`00:44.18`	`x86`	`yeah i didnt even notice that ;)`
`00:45.16`	`x86`	`k, fixed`
`00:45.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`you should never have a context so generically named as [fdefault] ....`
`00:45.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`the whole context should be removed...`
`00:45.50`	`x86`	`err`
`00:45.57`	`x86`	`i thought it needed a default context? :)`
`00:46.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`nope`
`00:46.05`	`Navire`	`MASter SIP account and others sips assign it?`
`00:46.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NOPE`
`00:46.24`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: i'll leave it for now... it works as i want :)`
`00:46.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NOPE!`
`00:46.47`	`x86`	`where can i get a toll-free DID for the US?`
`00:47.03`	`x86`	`IAX2 or forwardable to my real DID, either way doesnt matter to me...`
`00:52.10`	`*** part/#asterisk Navire (n=navire@200.199.61.142)`
`00:53.37`	`[av]bani`	`[TK]D-Fender: i updated the {mac}-directory.xml on the ftp server. how do i tell the phone to fetch it and update the speed dials?`
`00:53.41`	`*** join/#asterisk Aurs (n=Aurs@a217-118-41-157.bluecom.no)`
`00:54.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`unplug+replug`
`00:54.23`	`[av]bani`	`??`
`00:54.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`power...`
`00:54.36`	`[av]bani`	`i tried rebooting the phone, it fetches the list but doesn't update the speed dials`
`00:55.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : if you reset the phone normally it may overwrite your changes...`
`00:55.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`literally pull the power and replug it and let it boot...`
`00:55.18`	`[av]bani`	`it didnt overwrite anything... the file on the server is still correct`
`00:55.27`	`[av]bani`	`ok...`
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`00:58.21`	`[av]bani`	`unplugged, replugged. still using old speed dials`
`00:58.29`	`[av]bani`	`it even fetched the updated file, but used old data instead`
`00:58.30`	`wellng`	`hi all ,is there a way to turn off the native transfer for special extensions?`
`00:58.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`as in what you see in the contact directory or the same ones on line-keys?`
`00:58.57`	`[av]bani`	`line-keys`
`00:59.21`	`[av]bani`	`it fetched 0004f20361b4-directory.xml`
`00:59.24`	`[av]bani`	`which has the updated info`
`00:59.24`	`[av]bani`	`but`
`00:59.35`	`[av]bani`	`it's still using the speed dial keys from last week`
`00:59.41`	`[av]bani`	`which came from that file`
`00:59.45`	`dahunter3`	`Okay, I have a scenario that I need help with: The operator used an attended transfer to forward a call to a user... that user isn't at their phone and they hear voicemail... how does the operator back out of that call to ask the user if they want voicemail instead of hanging up and having them transferred to that voicemail.`
`00:59.47`	`Aurs`	`ah.. polycom`
`01:00.12`	`Aurs`	`[av]bani: tried "touch <mac>-directory.xml" ?`
`01:01.29`	`Aurs`	`ftp provisioning checks the date on the files.. me thinks.. if i`
`01:01.41`	`Aurs`	`'m not mixing with another phone`
`01:02.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : pastebin it....`
`01:05.50`	`[av]bani`	`[TK]D-Fender: pastebin what? the -directory.xml ?`
`01:06.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`yup`
`01:06.43`	`[av]bani`	`what the hell.. now its claiming it cant contact the boot server... bullshit`
`01:06.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`... :/`
`01:07.00`	`[av]bani`	`the boot server is the asterisk server.`
`01:07.11`	`[av]bani`	`if it can register (it can, and does) then it god damn well can contact the boot server`
`01:07.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aybe the service isn't running?`
`01:07.30`	`Alric`	`ftp login fail?`
`01:08.02`	`[av]bani`	`what the hell.. vsftpd crashed`
`01:08.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:O`
`01:08.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Security at its best!`
`01:08.55`	`Qwell`	`can't be hacked, if it isn't running`
`01:09.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`exactly~!`
`01:09.32`	`Abydos313`	`Qwell that should be obvious to people`
`01:09.35`	`Aurs`	`[av]bani: ftp provisioning on polycom checks the date on the files. so a simple touch is worth a try`
`01:10.09`	`Aurs`	`..but ofcourse.. it helps to have a running ftp server too :)`
`01:10.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Aurs : I think its more a matter of the server not being available to PROVIDE the update in the first place....`
`01:10.09`	`[av]bani`	`Aurs: polycom killed vsftpd somehow`
`01:10.25`	`[av]bani`	`looking through the logs to see wtf happened`
`01:10.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[av]bani : I suspect SUICIDE....`
`01:10.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ProFTP for the win!`
`01:10.54`	`Aurs`	`i had some trouble with ftp on ip510 after changing the bootrom version`
`01:17.54`	`tuxsoul`	`bye, thank's for all ;-)`
`01:17.57`	`*** part/#asterisk tuxsoul (n=tuxsoul@dsl-201-129-224-248.prod-infinitum.com.mx)`
`01:21.00`	`[av]bani`	`weird...`
`01:21.05`	`SwK[Work]`	`is 1.2.5 busted on solaris?`
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`01:24.07`	`Alric`	`Anyone using the polycom ACD integration with Realtime?`
`01:25.11`	`*** join/#asterisk dahunter3 (n=dahunter@pool-71-110-89-49.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net)`
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`01:25.22`	`dahunter3`	`Anyone understand all the eccentricities of using attended transfer?`
`01:25.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dahunter3 : Whats to know? ....`
`01:25.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"just works" is my experience...`
`01:26.15`	`dahunter3`	`Fender: I understand how to transfer you talk... you hang up to transfer... they hang up if they don't want the call.... what happens if I get voicemail and I want to grab back the line ?`
`01:27.26`	`Smi\|k`	`anyone here worked with or interested in working on the integration of ecommerce/shopping and voip`
`01:27.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dahunter3 : hang up on your call and just go back...`
`01:28.24`	`dahunter3`	`Fender: When I hang up the calls is transferred isn't it?`
`01:29.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Hmmm.... depends on the phone. On Polycom's you can cancel at any time until hanging up.`
`01:29.29`	`dahunter3`	`Fender: Sayson 480i's`
`01:29.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`So regardless of the other sides answer you can still return to your original.`
`01:29.44`	`SwK[Work]`	`transfers depend alot on the actual endpoint doing the transfering`
`01:29.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`not sure of the particulars of that one, but I would thinkk their functionality is roughly the same.`
`01:30.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ok, gtg, back tomorrow....`
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`01:33.10`	`wellng`	`SwK[Work], i wirte php agi script and in this script i firsrt set notransfer=yes for an iaxclient .it work on asterisk 1.2.4 but 1.2.1, isn't it?`
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`01:35.00`	`Zodiacal`	`anyone know how to transfer a call to a sip users voicemail with out it ringing? but i want it to do this only if they are on another call..`
`01:35.30`	`Zodiacal`	`i.e. if they arn't on a call it should ring`
`01:36.30`	`fabsoft`	`hi, anyone is able to get work app_rxtxfax =`
`01:36.52`	`fabsoft`	`i get alway an error in codec path conversion`
`01:37.41`	`Ironhand`	`hello, I'm quite new to asterisk and trying to investigate a problem with an iax2 peer being continuously in "UNREACHABLE" state. the connection uses rsa authentication. when analyzing udp traffic, the peer seems to send no return packets at all. can I conclude from this that the peer is simply not responding at all on that particular port, or could it also be an authentication problem?`
`01:39.36`	`Ironhand`	`(sorry if the wording's a bit confusing, couldn't think of a better way to put it)`
`01:41.38`	`Aurs`	`Ironhand: firewall? portscan to see if the port is open?`
`01:42.25`	`Aurs`	`iax2.. udp 4569`
`01:43.06`	`fabsoft`	`umh if there a authentication problem, from cli console u should know that`
`01:43.17`	`Ironhand`	`nmap shows the port to be in open\|filtered state`
`01:44.11`	`Ironhand`	`ok fabsoft, that's basically what I wanted to know (the logs/console don't indicate authentication problems)`
`01:45.59`	`fabsoft`	`do i tried to enable multiple verbosity level ?`
`01:46.02`	`fabsoft`	`u`
`01:46.15`	`fabsoft`	`asterisk -vvvvv -c -r`
`01:47.35`	`rene-`	`hi i have an iax network running between two hosts, host A has good connectivity and host b has two aDSL connections to the internet, each VPN is running an openvpn tunnel, that is set to UDP, and mtu optimized, im using ilbc codec between the sites and IAX trunking, what else can i do to optimize voice traffic, my lines are way asymetrical 512/128 or something like that, im doing some load sharing at the dialplan level but i would like to further optimize`
`01:48.11`	`Ironhand`	`fabsoft: the only thing I'm seeing that could be relevant is this in the logfile: Mar 11 02:47:37 NOTICE[2283]: Peer 'switch01' is now UNREACHABLE!`
`01:48.36`	`Ironhand`	`is there a way to re-initialize peer connections from the console without a restart?`
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`01:55.57`	`Telamon`	`I have an IAX problem: RTP (voice packets) that are relayed through my Asterisk server experience cutouts. Stuff that stays in the Asterisk box without going out another trunk (ie, voicemail) works fine. SIP works fine, it's just IAX. Any ideas?`
`01:56.33`	`Faithful`	`Wondering if I can get some help with my dial plan... I have a GSM gateway that I dial in with and get * to answer, I then want to be able to punch in a phone # and dial out of * VOIP`
`01:57.27`	`Faithful`	`Telamon: Jitter?`
`01:57.54`	`Faithful`	`Telamon: what about just dialing out voip?`
`01:58.08`	`fabsoft`	`Ironhand, iax reload`
`01:58.22`	`fabsoft`	`<your chan> reload`
`01:58.26`	`Smi\|k`	`anyone here worked with or interested in working on the integration of ecommerce/shopping and voip`
`01:58.28`	`Beirdo`	`beer reload`
`01:58.51`	`Smi\|k`	`seems like it would happen lots as phones for most small businesses are used to sell products`
`01:59.28`	`Telamon`	`Faithful: That's what I thought, I tried turning jitter off (the phone is on the same LAN as the Asterisk box) but no difference. Dialing out from SIP phones works fine. Dialing out from IAX through the zaptel or to a SIP phone experiences the voice transmit problems. The IAX phones receive voice fine, it's just transmitting that fails.`
`01:59.35`	`fabsoft`	`Smi\|k, i have a ecommerce online, but i ship in italy only`
`01:59.51`	`Ironhand`	`fabsoft: stupid question... how do I found out what to use for the <your chan> part?`
`02:00.06`	`Telamon`	`Ironhand: <iax\|sip> show channels`
`02:00.40`	`Ironhand`	`both peers have "(None)" in the Channel column`
`02:01.07`	`fabsoft`	`use the tab key, it works similary as bash`
`02:02.05`	`Ironhand`	`yes, it shows me a list of commands I ran use... nothing specifically related to the peers though`
`02:02.18`	`Ironhand`	`*can`
`02:02.41`	`fabsoft`	`eg: sip show peers`
`02:02.48`	`fabsoft`	`iax show peers`
`02:03.06`	`*** join/#asterisk themacuser (n=gm@ppp211-125.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net)`
`02:03.13`	`Ironhand`	`shows me a table with Name/Username, Host, Mask, Port, Status`
`02:03.30`	`Smi\|k`	`fabsoft, integration with voip?`
`02:04.26`	`fabsoft`	`i sell useful products related to asterisk and other devices`
`02:05.26`	`Smi\|k`	`oh, no, I mean creating ecommerce sites with full voip integration on the business backend`
`02:05.28`	`Ironhand`	`what part of the iax show peers table should I use for the <your chan> above?`
`02:05.33`	`Telamon`	`Smi\|k: The problem with VOIP + web is that you need some sort of soft phone (probably JAVA based) and the customer needs a microphone. The tech support would be a nightmare. EBay is going to try it, but they have a lot of money to throw at the problem. I think they are going to have to sell a specific hardware kit, and the sheer size of their customer base is what will make it work.`
`02:06.08`	`Qwell`	`Telamon: I doubt that's what he means`
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`02:06.24`	`Qwell`	`product stock checks, order status lookups, etc`
`02:06.40`	`Ironhand`	`(I had to use "iax2 show peers" btw)`
`02:06.46`	`Smi\|k`	`exactly qwell`
`02:06.53`	`Qwell`	`quite doable`
`02:06.56`	`Smi\|k`	`for sure`
`02:07.03`	`Smi\|k`	`so whats out there and whose doing it`
`02:07.10`	`Telamon`	`Ah, using IVR's to talk with your website, instead of the reverse. Yeah, not too hard with AGI programming.`
`02:07.24`	`Qwell`	`Smi\|k: If you're wanting to pay somebody to do it for you/help you - they don't really need that specific experience`
`02:07.39`	`Smi\|k`	`Qwell, they do if they hope to build on and add to ideas`
`02:07.44`	`Qwell`	`nah`
`02:07.50`	`fabsoft`	`Smi\|k, i use oscommerce platform, do u want offer voip services ?`
`02:08.04`	`Smi\|k`	`full integration`
`02:08.13`	`Smi\|k`	`web/inventory/voip/crm`
`02:08.34`	`Qwell`	`Smi\|k: there are quite a few very competent asterisk consultants`
`02:08.46`	`Smi\|k`	`but no existing turnkey integrations?`
`02:08.52`	`Qwell`	`none that I've seen`
`02:08.58`	`fabsoft`	`for 50$ /hours ...`
`02:09.01`	`Smi\|k`	`any reason you can think of why not?`
`02:09.31`	`Qwell`	`fabsoft: a bit more than that :)`
`02:09.35`	`Ikarus`	`Because people don't see a reason to`
`02:09.53`	`Qwell`	`Smi\|k: because nobody has released one as open source?`
`02:10.22`	`Smi\|k`	`not even open source, I mean, even closed source products, I've seen nothing that ties it all together offered`
`02:10.31`	`abusenode`	`opensores?`
`02:10.34`	`Ikarus`	`Smi\|k: I was actualy busy writing something that coud be hooked into it (but the only VoIP intergration would be users being able to enter the number so I can see before picking up the phone what order there is)`
`02:10.35`	`Smi\|k`	`meanwhile there are open source carts, voip, crm, etc..etc..`
`02:10.51`	`Ikarus`	`Smi\|k: the thing is, it is ALOT of work`
`02:10.58`	`abusenode`	`asterisk is maintained/created by jews, so obviously they want to get paid`
`02:11.13`	`abusenode`	`plus the code is such a fucking mess, trying to implement anything which makes sense takes ages`
`02:11.33`	`Ikarus`	`abusenode: please rant somewhere where peope care`
`02:11.35`	`Smi\|k`	`fonality HUD app seems to make some good progress`
`02:11.51`	`Ikarus`	`If I go on with my coding it would be done neat the end of the year`
`02:11.53`	`Smi\|k`	`an app like that could get basic info from asterisk, and then the other info from web`
`02:11.55`	`abusenode`	`Ikarus: you replied so obviouslt you care`
`02:12.17`	`Smi\|k`	`abusenode is a troll, just /ignore`
`02:12.26`	`Ikarus`	`"web" might be a odd way to think of it`
`02:12.38`	`Ikarus`	`that is how marketing peope see it`
`02:12.38`	`Smi\|k`	`so lots of time involved, once integration of ecom and asterisk is finished the combo could be offered to many businesses`
`02:12.47`	`abusenode`	`Fonality�s main product is PBXtra, a highly polished and highly scalable IP-PBX-system based on open source, Asterisk platform. The $995 box has all the features you expect from more expensive offerings from the likes of Cisco and Avaya.`
`02:12.48`	`abusenode`	`haha.`
`02:12.49`	`Smi\|k`	`as a shopping cart, or as a phone service, so you hit it from multiple angles`
`02:12.58`	`Ikarus`	`My system is based on XML RPC`
`02:12.59`	`abusenode`	`but it doesnt even work as a key system`
`02:13.05`	`abusenode`	`useless.`
`02:13.31`	`Ikarus`	`Smi\|k: yes, but the thing is, if your shoppingcart app is build suitably OO it is easy to extend it to phone stuff`
`02:13.38`	`Ikarus`	`So don't think so locked in`
`02:14.10`	`Smi\|k`	`I want it all locked together`
`02:14.15`	`Ikarus`	`Smi\|k: it isn't`
`02:14.22`	`Ikarus`	`Smi\|k: Or it kind of is`
`02:14.26`	`Smi\|k`	`to the nth degree`
`02:14.52`	`Smi\|k`	`affiliate sends someone onto the website, and because its from them, when the person calls it forwards the call to the affiliate to answer etc etc`
`02:15.01`	`Smi\|k`	`full integration with every aspect of ecom`
`02:15.18`	`abusenode`	`heh`
`02:15.26`	`abusenode`	`you better be prepared to pay for that.`
`02:15.51`	`Smi\|k`	`the problem is the wrong person could make the project as a whole go in a very wrong direction`
`02:15.52`	`abusenode`	`nobody is going to be doing a system involving more 3 and 4 letter acronyms than real words for you for free.`
`02:16.05`	`Ikarus`	`That might be full intergration of the process, BUT, application wise it should be very small seperate apps with good communications between them`
`02:16.29`	`Ikarus`	`Else it is stupidly coded and very limited if the next new thing shows up`
`02:16.29`	`Smi\|k`	`Ikarus, how can it be that none of those com modules exist`
`02:16.45`	`Ikarus`	`Smi\|k: Because companies aren't intelligent`
`02:17.16`	`Ikarus`	`Smi\|k: I never ever worked for a company who actually knew what the fuck they where doing, other then make money`
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`02:17.36`	`Smi\|k`	`Ikarus, do you bring that aspect to them when you work with them`
`02:17.45`	`Smi\|k`	`or just do what they ask and leave`
`02:18.11`	`Ikarus`	`Smi\|k: depends on what company, I try to add it, but if I can't I just do what I am asked and no more`
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`02:32.11`	`vchrizz`	`hi`
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`02:34.35`	`vchrizz`	`it maybe sounds lame but im looking for some person who would setup asterisk for me :) in return i offer a vserver with own ip and flatrate on a 100mbit line ;) pls query me if you're interested :)`
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`03:06.36`	`Zodiacal`	`anyone know if its possible to make it easier to park calls. i.e. while on a call, dial an ext that attends a transfer to give you the park # and transfers.. all in one step`
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`03:15.36`	`De_Mon`	`Errr, I'm trying to use the agent function AGENT(agentid:param) but that function isn't available. The bug tracker says it was merged into trunk, so.. where is it?`
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`03:20.12`	`littleball`	`hi, who has experience of JAIN?`
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`03:57.00`	`SwK_`	`anyone know who drach on the bugtracker is?`
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`04:10.41`	`Telamon`	`What's the latest version of the iaxy firmware?`
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`04:22.41`	`datix_`	`is there a want to change the voices for the system? rather, its like a place to download them to overwrite the other ones?`
`04:24.14`	`rt`	`sure, sounds live in someplace like /var/lib/asterisk/sounds.`
`04:24.43`	`datix_`	`rt: is there a website with packages?`
`04:25.01`	`rt`	`with different voices?`
`04:25.09`	`FuriousGeorge`	`so i heard that snoms support sip hearders for paging? can anyone verify`
`04:25.20`	`datix_`	`yes`
`04:25.28`	`FuriousGeorge`	`datix_: stop liein'`
`04:25.30`	`FuriousGeorge`	`:)`
`04:25.32`	`datix_`	`like a british person, or mexican`
`04:25.43`	`FuriousGeorge`	`oh that wasnt for me`
`04:26.25`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i assume i wouldnt have to turn on autoanswer for paging, or what would be the point`
`04:26.31`	`rt`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk%20sound%20files`
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`04:26.45`	`rt`	`it's straightforward (but tedious) to record your own.`
`04:26.58`	`jaike`	`1.2.5 stable so far?`
`04:27.11`	`Qwell`	`jaike: it's a release version, yes`
`04:28.20`	`jaike`	`qwell: just making sure. i usually wait a week or 2 before putting new releases into production :)`
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`04:31.50`	`brookshire`	`rt: do you use rt?`
`04:32.13`	`rt`	`"rt" stands for "raytracer"`
`04:32.17`	`brookshire`	`oh`
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`04:32.31`	`brookshire`	`there is an open source project called rt`
`04:32.42`	`brookshire`	`it stands for response traceker`
`04:32.50`	`brookshire`	`or request`
`04:32.51`	`mog_work`	`LAME`
`04:32.53`	`brookshire`	`or something like that`
`04:33.18`	`brookshire`	`mog is just upset because he was forced to use it`
`04:33.27`	`SwK_`	`hey mog or brooks either of you have any tips on getting either 1.2.5 or trunk to compile on slowaris?`
`04:33.39`	`rt`	`back in 1986 or so, I wrote an open source raytracer, which eventually lead to gainful employment in the exciting world of computer graphics, so I stuck with it as my nick.`
`04:33.45`	`mog_work`	`dont SwK[Work]`
`04:33.49`	`SwK_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:33.57`	`mog_work`	`its not that bad`
`04:34.05`	`mog_work`	`send me a solaris box and i will`
`04:34.06`	`SwK_`	`but I have a new toy I need to get it working on`
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`04:34.34`	`brookshire`	`mog: you have one in your office`
`04:34.55`	`brookshire`	`besides.. solaris is free for x86`
`04:34.57`	`mog_work`	`its not mine`
`04:35.00`	`brookshire`	`for development`
`04:35.20`	`brookshire`	`get it on the network.. and i'm sure it is`
`04:35.21`	`SwK_`	`i got a T2000 delivered today`
`04:35.30`	`brookshire`	`what's that?`
`04:35.33`	`mog_work`	`i mean i could root it brookshire`
`04:35.34`	`SwK_`	`editline issues who`
`04:35.35`	`mog_work`	`but its not my box`
`04:35.45`	`brookshire`	`swk: just install linux :)`
`04:35.51`	`SwK_`	`t2000 is the new Niagra chip's from sun`
`04:35.52`	`SwK_`	`no`
`04:35.55`	`brookshire`	`linux for solaris is fun`
`04:36.22`	`SwK_`	`i doubt linux has even been ported to this CPU yet`
`04:36.38`	`SwK_`	`or atleast enuff to take advantage of its capabilities`
`04:37.13`	`mog_work`	`it has SwK_`
`04:37.21`	`mog_work`	`ubuntu is delaying their release`
`04:37.32`	`mog_work`	`for up to 6 weeks so they can fully support it`
`04:37.44`	`SwK_`	`kool`
`04:37.52`	`mog_work`	`but you can get solaris running`
`04:38.00`	`SwK_`	`i need to get it working under solaris for other reasons`
`04:38.00`	`brookshire`	`i'm sure netbsd works if nothing else, lol`
`04:38.02`	`PakiPenguin_`	`SwK[Work], awesome!`
`04:38.09`	`PakiPenguin_`	`SwK[Work], the free ones?`
`04:38.11`	`SwK_`	`(like i wanna keep this box heh)`
`04:38.16`	`SwK_`	`paki yeah`
`04:38.39`	`PakiPenguin_`	`SwK_, i m waiting dfor mine :)`
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`04:39.12`	`SwK_`	`paki: i got the small quad core one`
`04:41.35`	`JunK-Y`	`i should give a try to opensolaris.`
`04:42.19`	`vchrizz`	`it maybe sounds lame but im looking for some person who would setup asterisk for me :) in return i offer a vserver with own ip and flatrate on a 100mbit line ;) pls query me if you're interested :)`
`04:42.34`	`mog_work`	`what ?`
`04:42.43`	`mog_work`	`like your offering per space`
`04:42.51`	`mog_work`	`and now bandwith bill?`
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`04:45.15`	`brookshire`	`hmm.. solaris 10 sounds hot`
`04:45.21`	`brookshire`	`no root :)`
`04:45.46`	`mog_work`	`your just mad cause no one would ever give you root`
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`04:46.24`	`brookshire`	`lol.. a user account is all i ever need ;)`
`04:47.57`	`Qwell`	`a user account...and a suid vi`
`04:48.46`	`brookshire`	`haha`
`04:48.59`	`Qwell`	`/etc/sudoers, baby`
`04:49.01`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`04:49.28`	`brookshire`	`when you have user on a box.. it's always fun to find creative ways of gaining root ;)`
`04:49.38`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`04:49.52`	`SwK_`	`or finding creative ways to rm -rf /`
`04:49.52`	`Qwell`	`we were doing that the other day...some script kiddie was trying to packet a friend`
`04:49.58`	`Qwell`	`so somebody asked for a shell on his box (and got one)...`
`04:50.26`	`Qwell`	`said he would suid a program for him - if he provided the source, so he could compile it`
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`05:12.56`	`astra^^`	`hello`
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`05:35.18`	`astra^^`	`JunK-Y : u ter..`
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`05:38.06`	`cpm`	`well, finally fixed my channel bank fxs problems, now my fxos don't work. :/`
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`06:09.15`	`HamYaI`	`Is there anyway to limit the number of current callers?`
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`06:19.30`	`Fedoracore6`	`hai all`
`06:19.57`	`Fedoracore6`	`if i use asterisk in fedoracore4 .. and phone grandstream ....`
`06:20.50`	`Fedoracore6`	`its i must useing via RTP (RFC2833) or via SIP info to make sure`
`06:21.10`	`Fedoracore6`	`whaen i press the number ... and the asterisk server know that number`
`06:21.17`	`Qwell`	`Fedoracore6: use whatever the phone supports. Just make sure that both are set to the same`
`06:21.42`	`Fedoracore6`	`hemm so i must look at sip.conf ..`
`06:21.50`	`Fedoracore6`	`or other file`
`06:24.03`	`Fedoracore6`	`i use the sip.conf`
`06:24.19`	`Fedoracore6`	`so Qwell .. at where configuration i must look`
`06:24.43`	`Fedoracore6`	`to make sure that asterisk setting same like grandstream setting`
`06:26.32`	`Qwell`	`sip.conf`
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`06:32.54`	`Fedoracore6`	`Qwell in my sip.conf like that`
`06:32.55`	`Fedoracore6`	`http://pastebin.com/595858`
`06:33.39`	`Fedoracore6`	`hemm its true if i using via SIP info`
`06:34.04`	`Fedoracore6`	`or must using RTP (RFC2833)`
`06:34.30`	`Fedoracore6`	`cost before that i useing the in -audio ... but didint work`
`06:34.30`	`Qwell`	`in sip.conf, you need to set dtmfmode=`
`06:34.53`	`Qwell`	`like dtmfmode=rfc2833`
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`06:36.05`	`Fedoracore6`	`Qwell did u have an example for sip , that i can follow`
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`06:40.04`	`HamYaI`	`Qwell: is there anyway to limit a caller to one only`
`06:40.19`	`HamYaI`	`Qwell: one at a time`
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`06:40.31`	`Fedoracore6`	`dtmfmode=inband what mean inband`
`06:40.50`	`Qwell`	`Fedoracore6: in the audio`
`06:41.48`	`Fedoracore6`	`oic if i set dtmfmode=rfc2833`
`06:42.17`	`Fedoracore6`	`in grandstream i must set Send DTMF: in-audio via RTP (RFC2833) via SIP INFO`
`06:42.17`	`Fedoracore6`	`DTMF Payload Type:`
`06:42.55`	`Fedoracore6`	`so in phone i must using RFC2833 to its right Qwell`
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`06:49.39`	`HamYaI`	`has anyone got call_limit working in 1.2.5?`
`06:50.00`	`HamYaI`	`for both incominglimit and outgoinglimit`
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`06:50.40`	`Qwell`	`Fedoracore6: yes, both places must be the same`
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`07:17.03`	`Qwell`	`mogorman: up so late...tsk tsk`
`07:21.24`	`Qwell`	`You're gonna love it when you're here*. You get an extra 2 hours. :D`
`07:21.28`	`[av]bani`	`\o>`
`07:21.29`	`[av]bani`	`<o/`
`07:21.33`	`Qwell`	`(*here == 500 miles away)`
`07:21.36`	`mogorman`	`heh`
`07:22.14`	`Qwell`	`I should work on my little project again...I forgot the source at work ;/`
`07:22.23`	`Qwell`	`mogorman: Wanna see something funny? :)`
`07:22.26`	`mogorman`	`sure`
`07:22.28`	`[av]bani`	`:o`
`07:22.33`	`mogorman`	`is your project the one i want you to work on`
`07:22.43`	`Qwell`	`no...`
`07:22.57`	`Qwell`	`app_voicemail.c ~line 6069`
`07:22.58`	`mogorman`	`booo`
`07:23.06`	`Qwell`	`I'm all for variable reuse, but...come on`
`07:23.15`	`Qwell`	`astattach is used in 3 places :p`
`07:23.26`	`Qwell`	`I'll have a patch up very shortly`
`07:23.50`	`mogorman`	`heh`
`07:24.15`	`Qwell`	`kinda funny, isn't it?`
`07:24.32`	`[av]bani`	`app_keysystem.c :P`
`07:24.59`	`mogorman`	`soo whats the SKINNY ^_^`
`07:25.06`	`Qwell`	`;0`
`07:25.24`	`mogorman`	`heh`
`07:25.31`	`Qwell`	`I really need to get this cert working...ugh`
`07:25.51`	`mogorman`	`?`
`07:25.51`	`HamYaI`	`has anyone got call_limit,limit,exten => *3000,1,ChanSpy(scan)`
`07:25.51`	`HamYaI`	`exten => *3000,2,Hangup`
`07:25.58`	`HamYaI`	`sorry`
`07:26.06`	`Qwell`	`mogorman: my origsvn cert isn't working at home. acting wonky`
`07:26.19`	`mogorman`	`lame...`
`07:27.00`	`Qwell`	`it hates me I guess..`
`07:27.14`	`mogorman`	`heh`
`07:27.21`	`Qwell`	`no clue why...it's weird`
`07:27.40`	`mogorman`	`i dont have anything ready for commits`
`07:27.42`	`Qwell`	`keeps asking for the filename...which totally exists (and is in the servers file)`
`07:28.32`	`mogorman`	`ahh`
`07:31.44`	`Fedoracore6`	`Mar 8 23:01:33 WARNING[4765]: pbx.c:1652 pbx_extension_helper: No application 'ResponseTimeout' for extension (menuadd, s, 2)`
`07:31.44`	`Fedoracore6`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:31.49`	`Fedoracore6`	`what mena this error`
`07:32.02`	`Fedoracore6`	`its responsetimeout no function`
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`07:34.31`	`sleepy_one`	`hello everyone :-) anyone know what kind of signalling analog POT / PSTN`
`07:34.58`	`sleepy_one`	`I'm sorry - hit the wrong key`
`07:35.26`	`sleepy_one`	`anyone know what kind of signalling analog POTS / PSTN lines in UK use ?`
`07:35.49`	`MGSsancho`	`umm`
`07:35.58`	`MGSsancho`	`isdn is all i know >_<`
`07:36.06`	`MGSsancho`	`but thats a tye of modem sorry >_<`
`07:36.25`	`sleepy_one`	`ISDN is digital :-)`
`07:37.19`	`sleepy_one`	`thanks tho :-)`
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`07:43.24`	`Fedoracore6`	`hemm try find pbx.c`
`07:43.35`	`Fedoracore6`	`some buudy no where pbx.c ..`
`07:44.02`	`Fedoracore6`	`ok i find it`
`07:44.11`	`Fedoracore6`	`usr/src/asterisk`
`07:44.14`	`sleepy_one`	`hey FC6 :-)`
`07:44.21`	`Fedoracore6`	`hehhe sorry`
`07:44.22`	`sleepy_one`	`hey you haven't been released yet ;-)`
`07:44.35`	`Fedoracore6`	`hehhehe sleepy sorry :D`
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`07:45.00`	`sleepy_one`	`just kidding ;-) silly joke`
`07:45.15`	`sleepy_one`	`Fedora Core 6 doesn't exist yet`
`07:45.25`	`Fedoracore6`	`it s ... slleep_one where are u now`
`07:45.34`	`Fedoracore6`	`hemmm what time in you countries`
`07:45.59`	`sleepy_one`	`0245 EST`
`07:47.00`	`sleepy_one`	`EST = [ -0500 GMT ]`
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`07:48.48`	`Fedoracore6`	`hemm`
`07:48.53`	`Fedoracore6`	`what countries`
`07:49.08`	`Fedoracore6`	`sleepy_one did u built sysytem using asterisk`
`07:49.12`	`Fedoracore6`	`like using databases`
`07:49.23`	`Fedoracore6`	`and hardphone`
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`08:00.13`	`FuriousGeorge`	`so i just found out my snom supports that sip address header, which is great for a paging system, but now i want to figure out how to make the led/button toggle between "call" and "page"`
`08:01.53`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i can make a "page" button which brings you to an extension that takes input on who to page, but i cant take that input via a "destination" button, can i?`
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`08:12.37`	astar`	`some one know is there something to do , for pstn detects hangup at the other side`
`08:16.18`	`FuriousGeorge`	`use kewlstart signalling?`
`08:16.37`	`FuriousGeorge`	`signalling => fxs_ks in zapata.conf`
`08:18.21`	astar`	`I have already this in my zapata.conf`
`08:19.45`	astar`	`I thought it was working a few days ago`
`08:19.56`	astar`	`don't know what changed`
`08:19.58`	`FuriousGeorge`	`hmm`
`08:20.23`	`FuriousGeorge`	`you can try callprogressdetection but that may cause unexpected disconnect`
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`08:33.42`	astar`	`dont do anything ...`
`08:34.03`	astar`	`I'll reboot server`
`08:34.27`	`sleepy_one`	`you dont have to reboot`
`08:34.54`	`sleepy_one`	`I believe you can just ztcfg -vvvvvvvvvvvvv or rmmod the modules and modprobe them again`
`08:36.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`~pri`
`08:36.50`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, pri is Primary Rate Interface, often called T1 or E1 (European Standard). E1 offers 30 ISDN B-Channels a 64kBit/s + 1 D-Channel with 64kBit/s. The T1 has 23 B-Channels + 1 D-Channel. Cards to use with *: T100P, E100P, TE410P, etc.`
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`08:36.58`	`FuriousGeorge`	`missed you`
`08:36.59`	`FuriousGeorge`	`~pri`
`08:37.01`	`jbot`	`i guess pri is Primary Rate Interface, often called T1 or E1 (European Standard). E1 offers 30 ISDN B-Channels a 64kBit/s + 1 D-Channel with 64kBit/s. The T1 has 23 B-Channels + 1 D-Channel. Cards to use with *: T100P, E100P, TE410P, etc.`
`08:37.35`	`FuriousGeorge`	`since each channel is 54kbps thats one ulaw call (since ulaw is 8bits by 8,000 hz)`
`08:37.45`	`sleepy_one`	`64kbps :-)`
`08:37.46`	`FuriousGeorge`	`*8bit`
`08:37.53`	`FuriousGeorge`	`right`
`08:37.59`	`FuriousGeorge`	`typo`
`08:38.10`	`sleepy_one`	`:-)`
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`08:41.28`	astar`	`same thing after reboot`
`08:41.47`	`Zeeek`	`Hej!`
`08:43.29`	`sleepy_one`	`hello :-)`
`08:44.57`	astar`	`i have more length on my pstn cable does it impact ?`
`08:46.16`	`sleepy_one`	`it shouldn't not unless you're talking 1,000 of ft.`
`08:46.46`	`sleepy_one`	`1,000's of ft. rather`
`08:47.29`	astar`	`in meter ?`
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`08:48.21`	`sleepy_one`	`hundreds or thousands of meters`
`08:48.22`	`Zeeek`	`100ft=290meters`
`08:48.30`	`Zeeek`	`1000ft`
`08:49.15`	`Zeeek`	`mmeter is a little over 3f-t`
`08:49.17`	`sleepy_one`	`1000ft = 304.8000m`
`08:49.19`	astar`	`ok i have only 20 meters`
`08:50.10`	`sleepy_one`	`20m (65ft.) is no big deal`
`08:50.46`	`Zeeek`	`in penis size, it is!`
`08:51.14`	astar`	`and its not an asterisk extension conf probleme because receiving by voip , it works fine`
`08:52.42`	`Zeeek`	`astar I missed you rproblem. What is it?`
`08:53.38`	astar`	`when i receive a pstn call if the other side hangup call my asterisk don't detect it`
`08:54.23`	`Zeeek`	`what country? What hardware?`
`08:54.31`	astar`	`France , tdm400`
`08:54.48`	`Zeeek`	`okk I am in France but I use X100P for now`
`08:55.02`	`Zeeek`	`wait I'll look at my zapata.conf`
`08:55.10`	astar`	`I remember it was working fine a few days ago`
`08:55.31`	`Zeeek`	`I use callprogress=no`
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`08:55.40`	`Zeeek`	`and busydetect=yes`
`08:56.05`	`Zeeek`	`what version asterisk?`
`08:56.12`	`Zeeek`	`I'm at 1.2 for now`
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`08:56.55`	`xianlp`	`hi guys, anyone familiar with bristuff ?`
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`09:01.52`	astar`	`seems busy detect solved problem`
`09:02.00`	astar`	`thanks Zeeek`
`09:02.03`	`Zeeek`	`great!`
`09:02.23`	`Zeeek`	`what version of asterisk are you using?`
`09:02.36`	astar`	`1.0.9`
`09:02.59`	`Zeeek`	`ok`
`09:03.09`	`Zeeek`	`I was considering upgrading to 1.2.5`
`09:03.13`	`Zeeek`	`from 1.2`
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`09:07.45`	`FuriousGeorge`	`anyone got experience with snoms`
`09:08.52`	`sleepy_one`	`some`
`09:09.04`	`FuriousGeorge`	`trying to figure out how i can toggle the programable led between page (using setadressheader) and just regular call`
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`09:09.39`	`FuriousGeorge`	`if i set it as a destination, it will just send the url to the server, so i cant just prefix it with another button, can i?`
`09:09.46`	`sleepy_one`	`that I don't know :-(`
`09:10.28`	`RuslanRec`	`HELP ME`
`09:10.48`	`FuriousGeorge`	`STOP DROP AND ROLL`
`09:11.21`	`FuriousGeorge`	`[av]bani: you awake?`
`09:11.38`	`nextime`	`RuslanRec : usually the best way to receive a kickban or to be ignored on a IRC channel is to join it and scream "help me"`
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`09:12.20`	`RuslanRec`	`how connect asterisk with AS5300`
`09:12.49`	`Zeeek`	`anyone use solaris?`
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`09:14.01`	`sleepy_one`	`500 years ago`
`09:14.41`	`Zeeek`	`right after FreeBSD?`
`09:14.43`	`sleepy_one`	`Zeeek, why do you ask?`
`09:14.57`	`Zeeek`	`because I'm making asterisk on solaris 10 today for fun`
`09:15.12`	`sleepy_one`	`oh geeeez`
`09:15.19`	`Zeeek`	`I got it working once on FreeBSD 4.3`
`09:15.22`	`austinnichols101`	`RuslanRec: AS5300 terminates ISDN, so just put a TE110P or better into the asterisk box and cable to the AS5300`
`09:15.53`	`Zeeek`	`my main box is Slackware 9 something`
`09:15.58`	`Zeeek`	`works fine`
`09:16.12`	`sleepy_one`	`uname -a`
`09:16.14`	`sleepy_one`	`Linux hostname 2.6.15-1.1831_FC4 #1 SMP Tue Feb 7 13:37:59 EST 2006 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux`
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`09:17.51`	`Zeeek`	`sleepy_one is ncurses usually NOT installed on solaris?`
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`09:19.31`	`nextime`	`wow, ther's a opensolaris patched for run under xen`
`09:19.47`	`Zeeek`	`ld: fatal: library -lncurses: not found`
`09:19.54`	`Zeeek`	`nut I just made and installed it`
`09:20.20`	`iDunno`	`apt-get install ncurses5-dev`
`09:20.30`	`Zeeek`	`on solaris?`
`09:20.35`	`sleepy_one`	`LOL`
`09:20.52`	`nextime`	`Zeeek : if you use nexenta yes :)`
`09:20.53`	`sleepy_one`	`you probably have to install ncurses from src`
`09:21.00`	`Zeeek`	`I just did`
`09:21.15`	`Zeeek`	`but I guess if I don't know how to do this, I should forget it :)`
`09:21.17`	`sleepy_one`	`ncurses + ncurses devel`
`09:21.28`	`Zeeek`	`ah.`
`09:21.40`	`Zeeek`	`got it here ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/ncurses/`
`09:21.42`	`sleepy_one`	`did you install then in /usr/ ? or /usr/local ?`
`09:21.48`	`sleepy_one`	`then = them`
`09:21.52`	`sleepy_one`	`sorry`
`09:22.00`	`Zeeek`	`lemme see here`
`09:23.03`	`Zeeek`	`seems to be in /usr/local/lib`
`09:23.04`	`sleepy_one`	`I think the default prefix is /usr/local so -lcurses won't work unless /usr/local/lib is in your ld.so.conf`
`09:23.19`	`Zeeek`	`oh my`
`09:23.36`	`sleepy_one`	`if you ./configure --prefix=/usr && make && make install`
`09:23.37`	`Zeeek`	`should I reinstall or change the .conf?`
`09:23.56`	`Zeeek`	`I'l try that`
`09:24.16`	`nextime`	`i really have to better try nexenta, solaris + debian is an amazing couple`
`09:24.23`	`sleepy_one`	`that should install the libs in /usr/lib and the .h files in /usr/include`
`09:25.38`	`sleepy_one`	`are you using gcc or Sun's cc?`
`09:26.26`	`Zeeek`	`the make file is calling gcc`
`09:26.56`	`Zeeek`	`looks like the make of ncurses in /usr solved that problem`
`09:27.40`	`Zeeek`	`Asterisk has successfully been built! how nice`
`09:27.42`	`sleepy_one`	`hehe :-D`
`09:28.32`	`Zeeek`	`oops.... "mon-9.gsm was not found anywhere"`
`09:28.41`	`sleepy_one`	`how are you going to get the kernel modules to work?`
`09:28.46`	`Zeeek`	`well I spose I'd better get busy and install those`
`09:28.55`	`Zeeek`	`no idea I'm just playing`
`09:29.31`	`sleepy_one`	`asterisk itself may work but without a timing source well -- you can't do that much`
`09:30.31`	`Zeeek`	`where did it install * ? I don't see it`
`09:31.48`	`sleepy_one`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:32.09`	`Zeeek`	`nope`
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`09:32.22`	`sleepy_one`	`did u make install ?`
`09:32.39`	`Zeeek`	`of course`
`09:32.41`	`Juggie`	`Zeeek, 'make install'`
`09:32.48`	`Juggie`	`'whereis asterisk'`
`09:32.54`	`sleepy_one`	`run: make -n install # that will show you what commands make install will run without doing anything`
`09:33.22`	`sleepy_one`	`find / -name asterisk`
`09:33.22`	`Zeeek`	`thanks. It seems to have installed under my home dir!`
`09:33.31`	`Zeeek`	`I did a find`
`09:33.45`	`Juggie`	`it should go elsewhere`
`09:33.57`	`Zeeek`	`ah wait a sec`
`09:36.06`	`sleepy_one`	`I think it should go in /usr/sbin/ but I'm not 100% sure`
`09:36.35`	`Fedoracore6`	`;)`
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`09:37.54`	`Zeeek`	`it's complaining about not finding gsm files`
`09:38.00`	`Zeeek`	`maybe the install doesn't finish`
`09:38.00`	`austinnichols101`	`anyone have any experience with GSM gateway stuff? I'm looking at the FX-300 page right now`
`09:38.31`	`austinnichols101`	`would be really cool to have my whole office 'IN' with asterisk`
`09:38.53`	`Faithful`	`Wondering if I can get some help with my dial plan... I have a GSM gateway that I dial in with and get * to answer, I then want to be able to punch in a phone # and dial out of * VOIP`
`09:39.39`	`RuslanRec`	`�� `
`09:39.49`	`Zeeek`	`donde esta?`
`09:41.13`	`austinnichols101`	`aqui`
`09:41.32`	`Zeeek`	`dans ce cas, d'accord`
`09:42.18`	`austinnichols101`	`faithful: just include your from-internal context after applying the appropriate security measures (authenticate or disa)`
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`09:45.07`	`xterminus`	`anyone here notice that from the cli - 'reload' crashes asterisk (svn - trunk)?`
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`09:48.41`	`Zeeek`	`grep -q doesn't work on solaris`
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`09:53.20`	`diLLec`	`indeed`
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`09:53.58`	`diLLec`	`you have to send output to /dev/null followed by getting the return code of "grep"`
`09:54.25`	`Zeeek`	`huh? the grep error is what's stopping the make install`
`09:54.53`	`diLLec`	`thats weird ;-)`
`09:55.51`	`Zeeek`	`also sed: illegal option -- r`
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`09:56.20`	`diLLec`	`it seams that you have to use the gnu versions of these programms`
`09:56.34`	`Zeeek`	`do I need some kind of make option?`
`09:56.46`	`diLLec`	`good question`
`09:56.55`	`Zeeek`	`or install the gnu versions?`
`09:57.06`	`diLLec`	`thats kind of a workaround`
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`09:58.35`	`sleepy_one`	`or fix the makefile`
`09:58.48`	`Zeeek`	`I'm listening :)`
`09:59.05`	`Zeeek`	`hurry before my wife gets home, though`
`09:59.31`	`sleepy_one`	`just vi the Makefile and remove the options that are causing problems`
`09:59.43`	`Zeeek`	`you mind if I nano it instead?`
`10:00.30`	`sleepy_one`	`sorry - my bad vi = $any_editor to me`
`10:00.43`	`Zeeek`	`just kidding`
`10:01.07`	`sleepy_one`	`just $path_to_your_favorite_editor Makefile and remove the options that are causing problems`
`10:01.36`	`sleepy_one`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:01.47`	`sleepy_one`	`oh my bad`
`10:01.53`	`sleepy_one`	`Solaris has CDE`
`10:01.56`	`sleepy_one`	`not KDE`
`10:04.04`	`Zeeek`	`thazt solved the grep error but I can't find the sed command in Makefile`
`10:04.50`	`Zeeek`	`oh got it`
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`10:05.01`	`Zeeek`	`mkpkgconfig`
`10:07.48`	`austinnichols101`	`faithful: what gsm gateway are you using?`
`10:08.52`	`Zeeek`	`I better give up for now, since this was supposed to be "fun"`
`10:09.50`	`Zeeek`	`thanks for the help sleepy_one`
`10:10.35`	`sleepy_one`	`well I'm outta here, gnite all`
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`10:36.00`	`Kernel_Core`	`hi all`
`10:36.09`	`Kernel_Core`	`anybody here familiar with Astbill ?!`
`10:44.41`	`real-dev`	`good morning: anybody using AMI/originate or a call-file to place a call? I have some strange 6 seconds delay I don't understand`
`10:48.16`	`kippi`	`i have added modprobe zaptel and modprobe wcte11xp to my rc.local but when you run zttool its saying it unconfigured, any ideas?`
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`11:04.31`	`Skymarshal`	`Hi, is there a possibility to transfer a call to e.g. ext 555 but before to talk to the guy at 555 (to tell him who is on the line)?`
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`11:11.03`	`kippi`	`Skymarshal: yes`
`11:11.20`	`kippi`	`what handsets are you using?`
`11:11.48`	`Skymarshal`	`kippi: what do you mean by handset? I am using VoIP SIP phones and software SIP phones.`
`11:12.39`	`kippi`	`It will depends on the softphone then`
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`11:48.16`	`xianlp`	`I have a q - whenever I use the 'sip show peers' command, there are IPs for certain phones and when I changes these, they are never changed within the command sip show peers - it seems as they are sticky`
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`12:12.58`	`pycsusz`	`Hi Everybody!`
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`12:16.30`	`astra^^`	`Mar 11 17:38:53 NOTICE[21540]: chan_sip.c:3593 process_sdp: No compatible codecs!`
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`12:19.04`	`Kernel_Core`	astar`: put allow=all in your sip.conf file
`12:19.22`	astar`	`?`
`12:19.31`	`Kernel_Core`	`astra^^: put allow=all in your sip.conf file`
`12:19.35`	`Kernel_Core`	`ops`
`12:19.37`	astar`	`:)`
`12:19.50`	`pycsusz`	`I would like to know, how can I analyse the return values of command in the extensions.conf. For example the return value of command "queue(queue,tT)"`
`12:19.52`	`Kernel_Core`	`anybody here familiar with astbill ?!`
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`12:22.34`	`Sebb`	`hi. is there a way to check if na extension is allowed to pickup a specified sip-account (by checking call/pickupgroups) and returns a value?`
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`12:26.06`	`pycsusz`	`Sebb, sorry but I don't understand you`
`12:27.29`	`pycsusz`	`The documentation write that the queue() return 0 if for example the queue is full, but how can I check it in the extensions.conf or in extensions.ael?`
`12:30.14`	`Sebb`	`pycsusz: well. i want to use the cmd pickup from the bristuff package.. but that app doesn't check if it's in the right pickupgroup when i call it at *8,1.. so a way to check if the user is allowed to pickup a specified extension would be great`
`12:30.59`	`Sebb`	`e.g.`
`12:30.59`	`Sebb`	`exten => 8,1,GotoIf($[ ${CheckPickUpChan(${EXTEN})} ]?4)`
`12:31.00`	`Sebb`	`exten => 8,2,pickup(${EXTEN})`
`12:31.00`	`Sebb`	`exten => 8,4,playback("notallowed")`
`12:32.07`	`Aurs`	`you could use DB(), Sebb`
`12:32.37`	`Sebb`	`Aurs: yes, but that's ugly.. the information is already stored in sip.conf using callgroups/pickupgroups..`
`12:33.05`	`astra^^`	`Kernel_Core:allow=all its still givin the same error..`
`12:34.55`	`pycsusz`	`Sebb, Thank you very much!`
`12:36.50`	`astra^^`	`Mar 11 18:02:45 WARNING[21680]: frame.c:1015 ast_parse_allow_disallow: Cannot allow unknown format 'g711'`
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`12:39.17`	`Aurs`	`Sebb: i see your point`
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`12:41.24`	`astra^^`	`ar 11 18:07:05 WARNING[21716]: channel.c:2685 ast_channel_make_compatible: No path to translate from SIP/muja1-134c(256) to SIP/1001-813e(8)`
`12:41.52`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`coppice: here ?`
`12:42.00`	`coppice`	`no`
`12:42.06`	`astra^^`	`how do i make my asterisk go wid g729 and g729.. ?`
`12:42.09`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`;)`
`12:42.24`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`coppice: I upgradet to ast 1.2.4 ... fax stiill not wolk`
`12:42.27`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`work`
`12:42.54`	`coppice`	`are you using the test version I pointed you to?`
`12:43.13`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`I tried the test version aswell the normal .25`
`12:43.50`	`astra^^`	`how do i make my asterisk go wid g729 and g729.. ?`
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`12:44.03`	`coppice`	`then you probably have frame slips`
`12:44.16`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`?`
`12:44.52`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`coppice: priv msg`
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`12:46.49`	`coppice`	`did you notice "Fax receive not successful - result (14) TIFF/F file cannot be opened."?`
`12:47.03`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`jup`
`12:47.10`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`but what could i do ?`
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`12:48.05`	`coppice`	`It cannot generate /var/spool/asterisk-fax/asterisk-27930-1142080181.56.tif`
`12:48.07`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`the connection breaks after .. 12-20 sec... an transmission from fritz to the analoge fax needs 42 secs`
`12:48.07`	`coppice`	`does /var/spool/asterisk-fax exist, and are its permissions OK?`
`12:49.20`	`coppice`	`irrelevant at the moment. your immediate problem is with opening this file`
`12:49.42`	`astra^^`	`can anyone please .. guide me tru..`
`12:50.38`	`zoa`	`coppice, what is the best way to detect frame slips ?`
`12:51.04`	`coppice`	`divining rods`
`12:51.25`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`coppice: the folder everybody has write access ..`
`12:51.25`	`zoa`	`and now for the lest gifted english speakers ? :)`
`12:51.31`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`it doesnt create the file`
`12:51.36`	`zoa`	`im sorry i dont understand that phrase`
`12:52.19`	`zoa`	`bablefish makes a silly translation`
`12:52.34`	`coppice`	`mystics use divining rods to search for water. they also twitch very distinctively each time a frame slips`
`12:52.47`	`zoa`	`aaaah`
`12:52.59`	`zoa`	`a divining rod is such a split tree branch`
`12:53.07`	`zoa`	`got it`
`12:53.08`	`zoa`	`:)`
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`12:53.57`	`coppice`	`I've seen builders using welding rods on a day by day basis to search for underground pipes before putting their backhie loader to work`
`12:54.31`	`zoa`	`does such a thing actually work ?`
`12:54.36`	`coppice`	`apparently the Y shaped tree branch is not a unique tool`
`12:54.48`	`zoa`	`does it have some physical explanation`
`12:55.17`	`zoa`	`doesnt seem to make a lot of sense :)`
`12:55.21`	`coppice`	`I've seen a builder picking out all the pipes correctly with them, and he never bothered to look for a site service map`
`12:56.51`	`zoa`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgula_divina`
`12:56.56`	`coppice`	`i published a little program a long time ago, which uses an alternative technique for detecting frame slips.`
`12:57.02`	`zoa`	`aha`
`12:57.08`	`zoa`	`soft-switch.org ?`
`12:57.53`	`zoa`	`http://zarzamora.com.mx/mirror/shortcuts-to-files/sliptest.c -> this one ?`
`12:58.55`	`coppice`	`yep. it listens to the echo of noise it sends out, and looks for the peak in the autocorrelation. if a slip occurs in the path, the peak lag changes`
`12:58.58`	`zoa`	`how would i use that with a pri ?`
`12:59.08`	`zoa`	`it says for analogue dont connect anything to it`
`12:59.16`	`zoa`	`what do i do with digital channels ?`
`13:02.13`	`coppice`	`i originally wrote that to test TDM400s. however, if you make a call to somewhere through a digital path it should check the loop delay to the far end.`
`13:02.52`	`coppice`	`i guess I wrote that as a standalone program. it really needs to be an app_sliptest.c, doesn't it`
`13:03.43`	`zoa`	`yeah i guess so`
`13:03.45`	`ambriento`	`is coppice Zarzamora?`
`13:04.34`	`coppice`	`i think i did it that way to only look at the effects of the card, and eliminate * itself from the analysis`
`13:05.18`	`coppice`	`well, I should be able to rehash it into an app_sliptest.c fairly easily`
`13:06.48`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`coppice: may it related to an error i diid ... I wanted to upgrade ... and installed without think about it .. 0.3 ... but as i recogniced my fault i reinstall 0.2 ... therefore I deleted /usr/local/lib/libspan* files and build again`
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`13:07.28`	`zoa`	`aha`
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`13:11.03`	`zoa`	`oh well i dont need it right now, dont have any issues`
`13:11.08`	`zoa`	`i was just wondering for the future`
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`13:14.38`	`axscode`	`hi guyz.. how to dial in CLI?`
`13:15.09`	`axscode`	`if i got an outgoing trunk.. how will i able to dial in CLI to test?`
`13:17.59`	`darkskiez`	`can i set the sip fromdomain in the dialplan?`
`13:18.21`	`ambriento`	`axscode, use Manager interface to dial`
`13:18.45`	`ambriento`	`axscode, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+manager+API`
`13:19.52`	`axscode`	`ambriento.. coz ive been trying to setup and outgoing trunk.. but i failed..`
`13:20.08`	`axscode`	`do you happen to know any documentation about outgoing trunk?`
`13:21.11`	`ambriento`	`axscode, which kind of interfaces do you have? this outgoing trunk goes to PSTN or a VoIP provider?`
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`14:01.41`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`coppice: the patch is for 1.2.4 ?`
`14:02.08`	`coppice`	`i think it should work with 1.2.4`
`14:02.48`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`i think i was able to compile it yesterday .. but now I get ... t3_flush not definied ...`
`14:03.38`	`coppice`	`are you sure it says t3_flush? that doesn't exist`
`14:03.48`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`i think i was able to compile it yesterday .. but now I get ... t30_flush not definied ...`
`14:03.59`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`t30_flush`
`14:04.02`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`sry`
`14:04.27`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`in app_rxfax`
`14:05.19`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`correctly it says ... t30_flush is definied but not used (have to translate it)`
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`14:06.44`	`coppice`	`OK, that's probably true, and completely unimportant`
`14:06.55`	`[ProB]CrazyMan`	`priv msg`
`14:07.22`	`coppice`	`why are people always complaining about the GIMP's GUI, when its documentation is far far worse? :-)`
`14:10.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"Shit looks very good when compared to crap"`
`14:14.20`	`coppice`	`aren't they the same thing? :-\`
`14:15.18`	`ambriento`	`hahaha`
`14:16.01`	`coppice`	`never ever bother to RTFM for GIMP. It just wastes your time`
`14:17.06`	`coppice`	`GIMP is one of those programs that gets the aspect ratio of FAXes wrong`
`14:17.24`	`coppice`	`I think it can only read the first page of a TIFF, too`
`14:19.37`	`Axel69`	`Buy it in ebay and send it to mexico`
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`14:22.44`	`ambriento`	`buy what?`
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`14:23.50`	`coppice`	`it, of course`
`14:24.13`	`Axel69`	`sorry....wrong window`
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`14:28.22`	`astra^^`	`do we need t0 have licence for g723`
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`14:30.29`	`coppice`	`yes, and no. you need one, but currently there isn't one for *`
`14:30.49`	`coppice`	`G.723.1, that is. I assume that is what you mean`
`14:30.50`	`astra^^`	`wht abt for g729`
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`14:31.26`	`coppice`	`you need one for G.729, and digium will sell it to you`
`14:31.27`	`riddlebox`	`j #php`
`14:31.32`	`riddlebox`	`ahh oops`
`14:32.00`	`astra^^`	`how much /chanell`
`14:32.33`	`coppice`	`$10 per concurrently functioning channel, I think`
`14:33.10`	`ambriento`	`no way Axel69 now I want to buy it no matter what!`
`14:33.44`	`coppice`	`do you buy it by the kilo or by the dozen?`
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`14:34.11`	`astra^^`	`coppice:so can we place call on to asterisk wid g723 directly`
`14:34.12`	`ambriento`	`I don't know yet. I'm hoping that Axel69 tell me`
`14:34.30`	`astra^^`	`i mean g723.1`
`14:35.07`	`coppice`	`if the call just passes through, G.723.1 works OK. if it needs to be transcoded there is no available legit codec to do that for *`
`14:37.01`	`austinnichols101`	`bought some g729 licenses from digium last week. paid online and I had my codes in about 20 minutes`
`14:37.57`	`austinnichols101`	`who knows about cell gateways? I would like to set up an asterisk gsm gateway to my verizon phone (except I think it's CDMA)`
`14:38.52`	`ambriento`	`what is a cell gateway? some kind of appliance with few cell phones on with FXS ports?`
`14:39.31`	`austinnichols101`	`basically yes. The are a few devices over on voip-info.org`
`14:39.55`	`austinnichols101`	`they have stuff starting at a special cable to connect you phone going all the way up to telco rack stuff`
`14:39.58`	`axscode`	`hey i have here an NGN Gateway... it has a LINE and PHONE port and an ETHERNET.. can i use this for outgoing trunk to PSTN?`
`14:40.45`	`ambriento`	`we have indiiduals cell gateway in here austinnichols101`
`14:40.57`	`austinnichols101`	`that's what I'm looking to do`
`14:40.57`	`ambriento`	`1 cell phone per little box`
`14:41.14`	`austinnichols101`	`which little box are you using?`
`14:41.45`	`ambriento`	`I'm pretty sure you wont find this in there, cause I think this was made in my country`
`14:41.57`	`ambriento`	`besides, I can even remember the name`
`14:42.00`	`ambriento`	`:(`
`14:42.04`	`austinnichols101`	`which country?`
`14:42.12`	`ambriento`	`I can tell you later, by Monday or Tuesday`
`14:42.15`	`ambriento`	`Brazil`
`14:42.24`	`austinnichols101`	`axscode: I just read a bit and I think it should work (in theory)`
`14:42.44`	`austinnichols101`	`I have a bunch of Brazilian friends (I'm in Miami)`
`14:42.50`	`ambriento`	`I have 6 FXO ports in 2 digium cards, connect to these guys :)`
`14:43.05`	`ambriento`	`indeed, theres a lot of brazilians in there :)`
`14:43.08`	`austinnichols101`	`how do you handle multiple calls to a single phone with that setup?`
`14:43.35`	`austinnichols101`	`I'm going to be using the gateway for business so I need the ability to switch between two calls`
`14:44.01`	`austinnichols101`	`ambriento: some would say 'too many' :)`
`14:44.14`	`austinnichols101`	`there's a lot from every country here`
`14:44.39`	`austinnichols101`	`definitly fun to go to the different neighborhoods and try the resturants`
`14:45.20`	`coppice`	`* seems to have taken off quite well in south america, and particularly in brazil`
`14:45.57`	`astra^^`	`coppice:sir wen i place a g723.1 call it gives me tis error`
`14:45.57`	`coppice`	`a lot from every country? how many from Lichtenstein? :-)`
`14:46.02`	`astra^^`	`Mar 11 20:11:24 WARNING[21931]: channel.c:2685 ast_channel_make_compatible: No path to translate from SIP/muja1-edbd(4) to SIP/1001-6019(1)`
`14:46.22`	`austinnichols101`	`it's a great fit for latin america. there are a TON of brazilian companies up here in the data center`
`14:46.40`	`austinnichols101`	`coppice: a total of about two`
`14:47.23`	`austinnichols101`	`but if you take the +/- 43 countries in LA and the Caribbean, there's a representative population from each`
`14:47.27`	`austinnichols101`	`kind of unique`
`14:47.49`	`coppice`	`43 different versions of MFC/R2 :-)`
`14:48.17`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: did you say something to me last night? i took off shortly after our "weird exit from voicemail" conversation heh`
`14:48.42`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: someone said something to me, but my damn scrollback buffer doesnt go that far :(`
`14:48.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`don't remember... our conversations has passed its "best before" date :)`
`14:48.57`	`astra^^`	`Mar 11 20:11:24 WARNING[21931]: channel.c:2685 ast_channel_make_compatible: No path to translate from SIP/muja1-edbd(4) to SIP/1001-6019(1)`
`14:49.26`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: hah`
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`14:49.36`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: did you doctor up the extensions.conf at all?`
`14:49.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`astra^^ : The codecs on both sides don't match and * can't transcode call`
`14:49.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : no, because you were doing mods from your end and I don't want to run intoa collision on it.`
`14:50.18`	`coppice`	`nothing bit rots like chat`
`14:50.20`	`astra^^`	`[TK]D-Fender: i placed g723`
`14:50.41`	`astra^^`	`how do i make it to work for g723 codec..`
`14:50.54`	`ambriento`	`sorry austinnichols101 , let me read the log :) give me a second`
`14:51.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`astra^^ : The error means what it says... your ENDPOINTS aren't talking the same codec...`
`14:51.13`	`austinnichols101`	`[TK]D Fender: I've got logs for about 5 hours back if it helps`
`14:51.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`austinnichols101 : No, it was far further back than that, but I'm not looking...`
`14:51.38`	`austinnichols101`	`k`
`14:51.56`	`coppice`	`I think there are people using my MFC/R2 software is just about every corner of south america, and they still keep finding new stuff it needs to do :-\`
`14:52.40`	`austinnichols101`	`coppice: url?`
`14:53.22`	`ambriento`	`ok`
`14:53.25`	`coppice`	`url for what?`
`14:53.39`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: only thing i did was change the voicemail thingy to hangup instead of those Gotos`
`14:53.41`	`ambriento`	`I'm using MFC/R2`
`14:53.53`	`austinnichols101`	`MFC/R2 knowledge acquisition`
`14:54.01`	`ambriento`	`austinnichols101, what your idea for using cell gateways?`
`14:54.04`	`coppice`	`soft-switch.org`
`14:54.13`	`austinnichols101`	`kewl - tks`
`14:54.19`	`ambriento`	`tnx to coppice :)`
`14:54.31`	`austinnichols101`	`ambriento: really simple - 'sticking it to the man'`
`14:54.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`x86 : Here, learn from this : http://pastebin.com/596282`
`14:55.12`	`austinnichols101`	`nextel has free incoming here and so I have a dialback gw that I use to cut down my cell bill, let me access the office * install, etc`
`14:55.36`	`ambriento`	`I see`
`14:55.43`	`austinnichols101`	`but it's just for myself right now. I want to expand this out to about 5-10 'trunks'.`
`14:56.10`	`austinnichols101`	`and callback isn't really that convenient`
`14:56.26`	`ambriento`	`I dont have something like this in here`
`14:56.39`	`ambriento`	`the logic here is quite simpler`
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`14:57.04`	`austinnichols101`	`what I want to do is pick up the cell, dial a number and be able to acccess the office switch. I could then go a step further and hit a trunk access code and dial out`
`14:57.19`	`austinnichols101`	`and then I would want to route DID calls from the office out the cell trunk`
`14:57.49`	`austinnichols101`	`but I need to understand the small details a bit more - how are two simultanous calls handled, etc.`
`14:59.10`	`ambriento`	`I see`
`14:59.23`	`ambriento`	`u can expect 2 channels in use :)`
`14:59.31`	`austinnichols101`	`coppice: thanks for the link. my head hurts now`
`14:59.38`	`ambriento`	`what I have is quite simple`
`15:00.00`	`ambriento`	`all cell DID goes thru cell gatewayy`
`15:00.02`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: i dont want to really mess with it... you offered, so i figured i'd take you up on it ;)`
`15:00.05`	`ambriento`	`gateway*`
`15:00.13`	`x86`	`[TK]D-Fender: right now it does exactly what i want it to do...`
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`15:00.47`	`ambriento`	`I mean, if the number is a cell number, it goes thru the cell gateway`
`15:01.05`	`ambriento`	`I dont receive cell calls from cell gateway`
`15:01.33`	`wulfy814`	`ok dumb question - I just received a Sangoma A200 and am starting to build an asterisk box with it - I'm looking for documentation but all I'm finding assumes I know a lot more than I do`
`15:01.49`	`wulfy814`	`I've checked out the lastest asterisk - libpri, zaptel, and asterisk`
`15:01.52`	`austinnichols101`	`ok - so it connects outbound asterisk calls to cellphones in your configuration. What's the benefit of doing that (I assume it's cheaper)`
`15:01.57`	`wulfy814`	`and downloaded the wanpipe driver`
`15:02.09`	`wulfy814`	`collected all the dependencies via apt (ubuntu server install)`
`15:02.26`	`ambriento`	`cell to cell calls are cheaper than landline to cell`
`15:02.32`	`wulfy814`	`but what order do I do things ? I take it I install asterisk, libpri, and zaptel first`
`15:02.37`	`austinnichols101`	`k - makes complete sense`
`15:02.46`	`wulfy814`	`because the wanpipe instructions say they use zaptel.conf to build config`
`15:03.03`	`wulfy814`	`do I build zaptel with ztdummy or ?`
`15:03.05`	`AndyCap_`	`austinnichols101: if you have a lot of cell calls to one network yes. :) (or one for each network)`
`15:03.11`	`austinnichols101`	`coppice: I would have almost preferred not to know what's going on 'down there' with MFC/R2 :)`
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`15:03.55`	`austinnichols101`	`andycap: in my case I'm trying to leverage that there are several carriers available with 'IN' type plans`
`15:04.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wulfy814 : no ztdummy.`
`15:04.04`	`austinnichols101`	`basically free calls between phones on the same network`
`15:04.13`	`ambriento`	`coppice, why there is such thing like MFC/R2?`
`15:04.34`	`austinnichols101`	`ambriento: http://www.soft-switch.org/unicall/mfcr2/ch01.html`
`15:05.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wulfy814 : First compile Zaptel, then wanpipe, then zaptel AGAIN, then libpri, then asterisk.`
`15:05.28`	`wulfy814`	`[TK]D-Fender: just compile as normal? make clean; make install ?\`
`15:05.30`	`wulfy814`	`ok`
`15:05.33`	`AndyCap`	`austinnichols101: your cell providers are weird. :-P here all have free incoming when you're in country. abroad it's a different story though.`
`15:05.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wulf : yup`
`15:05.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wulfy814 : make clean ; make ; make install`
`15:05.51`	`austinnichols101`	`yeah - don't get me started on US cell carriers...`
`15:06.01`	`wulfy814`	`ok`
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`15:06.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wulfy814 : Being ubuntu I'd make very sure you have all the tools you need... its not a healthy base to start from....`
`15:06.58`	`austinnichols101`	`andycap: I was blown away the first time when I went to the UK and saw how the rest of the world works in that regard`
`15:07.13`	`austinnichols101`	`it defies any logic`
`15:07.31`	`wulfy814`	`[TK]D-Fender: I installed kernel-headers, build-essential (gcc, flex, bison, etc...)`
`15:07.41`	`wulfy814`	`although I'm already seeing what you mean`
`15:08.02`	`wulfy814`	`/bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found`
`15:08.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wulfy814 : To tell you the truth I know far to little about linux and even *'s full requirements to comment much more. I'm a Slackware user :)`
`15:08.24`	`axscode`	`hi guyz.. how will i able to make fromuser=8888011 as string instead of 8888011... coz whenever i put "" on it its registering fine.. but if none.. it says.. wrong passord.`
`15:08.26`	`x86`	`wulfy814: ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc-3.4`
`15:08.28`	`ambriento`	`hehehe austinnichols101. more than 50 years ago`
`15:09.29`	`wulfy814`	`x86: that just symlinked my gcc to gcc-3.4 right?`
`15:09.29`	`ambriento`	`wulfy814, you'll need g++ to compile wanpipe drivers`
`15:10.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ok, bbiab`
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`15:12.10`	`AndyCap`	`anyone looked at the voismart gsm card yet?`
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`15:12.37`	`austinnichols101`	`so then I think I can now say 'MFC/R2 is basically a (very old) signaling protocol that you still run into in international environments'`
`15:12.41`	`sivana`	`what does pbx_functions depend on now in SVN TRUNK?`
`15:12.48`	`ambriento`	`coppice, how to block incoming paid calls in MFC/R2?`
`15:13.05`	`ambriento`	`not really austinnichols101`
`15:13.26`	`ambriento`	`it still runs here in brazil`
`15:13.30`	`ambriento`	`mexico`
`15:13.31`	`ambriento`	`china`
`15:13.32`	`x86`	`wulfy814: right`
`15:13.35`	`ambriento`	`a lot of places`
`15:14.08`	`austinnichols101`	`right`
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`15:14.49`	`austinnichols101`	`when I say 'international' it's from my somewhat twisted US-based perspective`
`15:16.42`	`ambriento`	`hahah`
`15:17.35`	`austinnichols101`	`It may be that I'm not deep enough into the telco side here, but today was the first time I had heard MFC/R2...`
`15:18.00`	`ambriento`	`hahaha`
`15:18.49`	`ambriento`	`coppice, u said that there's some variants that got more tests than others`
`15:19.03`	`dja_`	`hi. when I dial a phone number, there's a 3-10 second pause between when I finish dialing and asterisk "does something" (I'm running 'asterisk -rvvv') -- is that the fault of the ATA device (I'm using a Linksys Pap2)? If so, is it possible to lower that?`
`15:19.06`	`ambriento`	`can you tell us which one?`
`15:19.39`	`ambriento`	`dja_, try press # after the last number`
`15:19.57`	`dja_`	`ambriento: wow -- thanks a million. :)`
`15:20.40`	`ambriento`	`np`
`15:20.41`	`austinnichols101`	`on another subject, yesterday I saw a IDS box that can scan up to 12G of traffic in real-time`
`15:20.52`	`ambriento`	`OMG`
`15:21.27`	`AndyCap`	`austinnichols101: scan for what @ 12 Gbit/s?`
`15:21.53`	`x86`	`probably bytecode, as it's an IDS :P`
`15:22.08`	`austinnichols101`	`signature-based virus attacks, buffer overflow attacks, dos, etc`
`15:22.25`	`austinnichols101`	`sorry - not IDS - I meant to say IPS`
`15:22.33`	`austinnichols101`	`it sits directly inline`
`15:22.39`	`x86`	`most IDS's do too`
`15:22.56`	`austinnichols101`	`x86: not really, if we're talking about the same thing`
`15:23.16`	`AndyCap`	`and I'd say wishful thinking. :-P it might do some of the bits all of the time or all of the bits some of the time.`
`15:23.16`	`x86`	`IDS == intrusion detection system`
`15:23.21`	`austinnichols101`	`in this case the unit doesn't have a mac addy and no IPs (except on the side to manage the thing)`
`15:23.30`	`austinnichols101`	`IPS - intrusion prevention system`
`15:23.35`	`x86`	`right`
`15:23.50`	`x86`	`IDS sits inline too, but doesnt act like a bridge like yours is doing, usually anyway`
`15:24.03`	`austinnichols101`	`IPS can detect the same as IDS, but it can also drop packets in realtime or send back host unavilable or reset the connections`
`15:24.12`	`AndyCap`	`austinnichols101: you mean, IPS = give remote attacker control of packet dropping.`
`15:24.19`	`x86`	`heh`
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`15:24.39`	`x86`	`i run an IDS -- Cisco Pix 501 ;)`
`15:24.40`	`austinnichols101`	`I think of IPS like an alarm system in that it can warn everyone that something is happening but it's limited to connection resets when it comes to taking any action`
`15:24.49`	`x86`	`it can also do IPS functions like drop bad packets, etc`
`15:25.01`	`austinnichols101`	`k - I know those`
`15:25.15`	`austinnichols101`	`I'm running IntruShields at the colo`
`15:25.55`	`austinnichols101`	`they end up acting as a big filter that strips off all the bad stuff`
`15:25.55`	`x86`	`it's fun taking advantage of an IPS system that nullroutes a bad host...... spoof an attack coming from their default gateway, trigger the IPS, make it block it's default gateway.... fun stuff ;)`
`15:26.44`	`x86`	`things like portsentry and what not are setup like that out of the box...`
`15:26.56`	`x86`	`not many people go in and tell it to ignore the default gateway ;)`
`15:26.57`	`austinnichols101`	`yeah - we've got a couple of ciisp guys on staff that would think that is cool`
`15:27.07`	`x86`	`CISSP you mean?`
`15:27.12`	`austinnichols101`	`right`
`15:27.49`	`austinnichols101`	`both of them are just slightly right of nerdy and headed towards weird`
`15:32.16`	`wulfy814`	`ok, I knew it was going to well`
`15:32.20`	`austinnichols101`	`later everyone - gotta go install xp at the inlaws house. can't wait.`
`15:32.27`	`wulfy814`	`WARNING: Error inserting sdladrv (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/kernel/drivers/net/wan/sdladrv.ko): Invalid module format`
`15:32.41`	`wulfy814`	`after I did: wanrouter hwprobe`
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`15:43.37`	`gongoputch`	`too many config files! is there a (www? CLI?) front end I can install on freebsd?`
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`15:46.51`	`SGM`	`gongoputch: try AMP (asterisk management portal)`
`15:47.30`	`gongoputch`	`SGM: thanks.`
`15:48.09`	`gongoputch`	`did it change it's name recently?`
`15:48.28`	`SGM`	`I have no idea`
`15:48.31`	`SGM`	`never used it`
`15:48.36`	`dja_`	`amp is now called freepbx (http://www.freepbx.org)`
`15:49.02`	`dja_`	`irc channel is #freepbx`
`15:49.24`	`gongoputch`	`thnx`
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`15:51.34`	`axscode`	`errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr elp`
`15:51.40`	`coppice`	`i guess changing the name is easier than changing the software :-)`
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`15:52.53`	`dja_`	`to be fair, they made some major changes in the new version :-)`
`15:53.43`	`coppice`	`i've never used it, but it seems to be one of the most complained about packages`
`15:54.57`	`dja_`	`ahh...I'm pretty new to all of this (and yes, I'm using freepbx), so I haven't seen the complaints yet. :)`
`15:55.57`	`wulfy814`	`anyone running wanpipe on ubuntu?`
`15:56.11`	`wulfy814`	`I'm having a hard time getting the kernel modules to install`
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`16:14.15`	`ambriento`	`whats happening wulfy814 ?`
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`16:16.50`	`RoyK`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:17.31`	`gongoputch`	`the webmin module: (http://ftp.digium.com/pub/telephony/asterisk/webmin/) anyone have experiences?`
`16:20.15`	`kippi`	`i have added modprobe zaptel and modprobe wcte11xp to my rc.local but when you run zttool its saying it unconfigured, any ideas?`
`16:21.50`	`RoyK`	`ztcfg -v :P`
`16:22.28`	`SGM`	`does anybody has an idea if it is possible to use callgroup and pickupexten with iax?`
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`16:22.35`	`SGM`	`and if so how ;)`
`16:26.39`	`RoyK`	`kippi: there are better ways to autoload modules than using rc.local....`
`16:28.53`	`ambriento`	`SGM, on way yet`
`16:29.19`	`SGM`	`ok`
`16:29.23`	`SGM`	`10x`
`16:29.23`	`SGM`	`:)`
`16:30.04`	`ambriento`	`:)`
`16:30.20`	`kippi`	`RoyK: is that why its not working?`
`16:30.56`	`kippi`	`hang on :)`
`16:31.10`	`RoyK`	`sounds like it. have you configured zaptel.conf and ran ztcfg?`
`16:31.19`	`kippi`	`RoyK: thanks for ztcfg -v it works :)`
`16:31.46`	`RoyK`	`ztcfg reads zaptel.conf and configures the hardware`
`16:31.56`	`kippi`	`ah`
`16:32.12`	`kippi`	`and zaptel.conf is setup right so its working now :)`
`16:32.40`	`kippi`	`you where saying there is a better why to load modules, can you share that with me?`
`16:33.26`	`SGM`	`kippi: try "man modprobe.conf" ;)`
`16:33.28`	`RoyK`	`read about modprobe/modprob.conf etc`
`16:33.43`	`kippi`	`ok thanks`
`16:34.40`	`axscode`	`Mar 13 12:23:25 WARNING[25948]: chan_sip.c:9532 handle_response_invite: Forbidden - wrong password on authentication for INVITE to '"7770003" <sip:7770003@203.213.217.122>;tag=as61a71bf7'`
`16:34.53`	`axscode`	`anyone got idea wheres the problem?`
`16:35.12`	`Qwell`	`axscode: maybe...I don't know...just a wild guess...the password is...wrong?`
`16:35.29`	`zoa`	`:)`
`16:35.39`	`SGM`	`:)))`
`16:36.22`	`RoyK`	`:)`
`16:36.31`	`ambriento`	`hehehe`
`16:36.32`	`axscode`	`hehehe....`
`16:36.35`	`axscode`	`:)`
`16:36.41`	`niZon`	`captain obvious saves the day!`
`16:37.26`	`axscode`	`hhehehe......`
`16:38.05`	`axscode`	`true true.... do you happen to know where would i change if im using mysql dbase? and what triggers that?`
`16:38.14`	`Qwell`	`what triggers it?`
`16:38.20`	`axscode`	`what field...? hmm..`
`16:38.22`	`axscode`	`dont know..`
`16:38.23`	`Qwell`	`trying to authenticate with a worng password, I'd assume`
`16:38.36`	`Qwell`	`and the password might be in...say...again, just guessing here...`
`16:38.40`	`Qwell`	`the password field?`
`16:39.24`	`axscode`	`hmm.. dont know really why.. coz if im calling local.. its fine.. but if im going to call using outgoing trunk.. it gives me that error`
`16:40.15`	`RoyK`	`does anyone know how far the t.38 works are in *?`
`16:41.04`	`coppice`	`t.38 passthrough kinda works. a number of negotiation issues need working out, but that;s mostly cos the spec is so woolly`
`16:41.28`	`coppice`	`t.38 termination kinda works with a recent snapshot of spandsp`
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`16:41.50`	`coppice`	`t.38 gateway works in isolation from *, but hasn't been integrated yet`
`16:43.24`	`axscode`	`whats the INVITE for?`
`16:43.40`	`coppice`	`to avoid gatecrashing`
`16:43.46`	`axscode`	`cool`
`16:43.47`	`axscode`	`:)`
`16:44.40`	`RoyK`	`coppice: you mean gateway as described in the bounty?`
`16:45.14`	`coppice`	`dunno what the bounty says, but probably`
`16:45.15`	`RoyK`	`lol. this guy actually emailed me about the t.38 bounty to ask if he could have the money for telling me fax actually worked with alaw over a LAN without T.38`
`16:45.36`	`RoyK`	`coppice: that is great.... how can I set it up for test?`
`16:46.10`	`coppice`	`can I have the bounty for pointing out why it doesn't? :-)`
`16:46.20`	`RoyK`	`:)`
`16:46.45`	`coppice`	`its amazing how many people keep repeating that crap. "I tried one page one day, and it came out sort of readable, so it works"`
`16:47.05`	`RoyK`	`hehehe`
`16:47.19`	`RoyK`	`but what patches are needed to setup the gateway?`
`16:47.37`	`Qwell`	`We don't need no stinkin' patches`
`16:47.45`	`RoyK`	`Qwell: ?`
`16:47.57`	`RoyK`	`I have spandsp 0.0.2pre25 with app_[rt]xfax already on the box`
`16:48.37`	`coppice`	`like i said, gateway is not properly integrated with * yet`
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`16:50.08`	`RoyK`	`coppice: does that mean it is possible to integrate it, or does it mean this is not possible yet?`
`16:50.21`	`RoyK`	`doing so without writing lots of code`
`16:50.59`	`coppice`	`you need to wait a bit. now digium are getting their act together a little, i'll probably do the necessary work soon`
`16:51.20`	`RoyK`	`ok`
`16:51.49`	`RoyK`	`with the sipjb in place, T.38 is the most significant missing bit in *`
`16:52.10`	`coppice`	`is the sipjb working OK now?`
`16:52.23`	`RoyK`	`it is`
`16:52.35`	`RoyK`	`we're using it in production running SIP/SIP`
`16:52.38`	`coppice`	`sipjb really means generic, doesn't it?`
`16:52.43`	`RoyK`	`yes`
`16:53.00`	`RoyK`	`generic, but only implemented for sip and zap`
`16:53.01`	`RoyK`	`so far`
`16:53.06`	`coppice`	`and that is in digium's source tree?`
`16:53.23`	`RoyK`	`oej has created a new branch for testing it`
`16:54.15`	`RoyK`	`I'm currently on a patched-up 1.2`
`16:54.21`	`Qwell`	`zap jb?`
`16:54.52`	`RoyK`	`don't ask :P`
`16:56.48`	`RoyK`	`i didn't write it`
`16:56.57`	`RoyK`	`but it's used when bridging between sip and zap`
`16:56.59`	`RoyK`	`somehow`
`16:57.20`	`Qwell`	`That would be a sip jb, yes :p`
`16:58.40`	`RoyK`	`Qwell: you enable jitterbuffer in zapata.conf`
`16:58.43`	`RoyK`	`don't ask me why`
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`17:07.01`	`asterisk99`	`Anyone know if the CLI console colours be changed??? --- I find white on a black background fatiguing... I'd love it to display a white background instead`
`17:08.20`	`Qwell`	`white text on a white background?`
`17:08.32`	`gaupe`	`asterisk99: start it with asterisk -nr and change the color in your terminal`
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`17:14.45`	`axscode`	`how can u change the color of the CLI?`
`17:14.46`	`axscode`	`:)`
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`17:19.16`	`jsaunders`	`Question... asterisk is no longer providing ringback for calling party, instead I'll hear it from provider. Is there an easy fix for this?`
`17:22.15`	`coppice`	`if you hear it from the provider, what needs fixing?`
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`17:25.23`	`axscode`	`your ear?`
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`17:37.12`	`ambriento`	`jsaunders, do you want o play a ringback no matter what?`
`17:38.12`	`JustJohnny`	`Could anyone answer a question reguarding an IAX trunk and failover to a PSTN line?`
`17:40.58`	`jsaunders`	`There seems to be some setup time between pbx and provider, so asterisk providing ringback would mean sooner ringing.`
`17:41.40`	`jsaunders`	`ambrineto, providing it's applicable. I don't want ringing if I get a no route to destination.`
`17:42.43`	`ambriento`	`well, try put the option flag "r" in your Dial()`
`17:43.02`	`ambriento`	`I rather wait for the provider than make a fake ringback`
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`18:00.28`	`astra^^`	`Mar 11 23:26:05 WARNING[22361]: channel.c:2685 ast_channel_make_compatible: No path to translate from SIP/muja1-1d39(4) to SIP/1001-66ee(1)`
`18:00.28`	`astra^^`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:00.39`	`astra^^`	`how do i fix tis issue.. ?`
`18:02.08`	`astra^^`	`anyone please..`
`18:02.53`	`ambriento`	`codec problems?`
`18:03.40`	`astra^^`	`yes sir.. :(`
`18:03.47`	`astra^^`	`hw do i fix it sir..`
`18:04.06`	`astra^^`	`sir asterisk supports g723..?`
`18:05.22`	`RoyK`	`no`
`18:05.25`	`RoyK`	`that is`
`18:05.33`	`RoyK`	`it supports passthrough`
`18:05.36`	`RoyK`	`but not transcoding`
`18:06.09`	`RoyK`	`unless you get your hands on a licenced codec, but you will probably have to pay quite a bit to get that`
`18:06.18`	`astra^^`	`RoyK:ohhh so if i giv a g723 to my server the call will nt go tru..?`
`18:06.27`	`mogorman`	`you can pass through`
`18:06.36`	`mogorman`	`there is no legal way currently to transcode it`
`18:06.38`	`astra^^`	`hw do i do tat`
`18:07.08`	`mogorman`	`?`
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`18:07.33`	`astra^^`	`how do i pass tru`
`18:07.40`	`astra^^`	`i use it only for outgoing`
`18:07.47`	`astra^^`	`no incoming..`
`18:08.00`	`axscode`	`ambriento <-- praise him... :)`
`18:08.40`	`RoyK`	`astra^^: just set allow=g723 and it'll allow passthrough`
`18:08.58`	`RoyK`	`it's good asterisk now supports logfiles > 2GB :P`
`18:09.09`	`RoyK`	`my logfiles get HUGE`
`18:09.19`	`Qwell`	`I had apache piss itself one time...`
`18:09.25`	`Qwell`	`I as GLAD it died at 2gb`
`18:09.28`	`Qwell`	`was`
`18:09.51`	`ambriento`	`royk, HUGE like 2GB a day?`
`18:10.01`	`ambriento`	`ty axscode :)`
`18:10.52`	`RoyK`	`ambriento: it took three days to grow to 2.5 gigs`
`18:10.54`	`RoyK`	`so not that bad`
`18:11.22`	`ambriento`	`what about daily rotate?`
`18:11.36`	`RoyK`	`i'll set it up one day`
`18:11.49`	`axscode`	`thanks a lot all...`
`18:11.50`	`Qwell`	`doesn't * automatically rotate?`
`18:11.56`	`RoyK`	`it logs to an nfs share with some 2.5TB space`
`18:12.02`	`Qwell`	`nfs logging?`
`18:12.03`	`Qwell`	`ugh`
`18:12.17`	`RoyK`	`what?`
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`18:13.18`	`RoyK`	`well. right now it doesn't do logging to the nfs share, it just archives logs there`
`18:13.27`	`astra^^`	`no its still the same.. i gave allow=g723 .. but gettin tis warning Mar 11 23:37:51 WARNING[22423]: channel.c:2685 ast_channel_make_compatible: No path to translate from SIP/muja1-b1b5(4) to SIP/1001-953a(1)`
`18:13.45`	`RoyK`	`astra^^: that's because it tries to transcode`
`18:14.09`	`RoyK`	`both ends must support g.723.1 to run passthrough, obviously`
`18:14.35`	`astra^^`	`u mean my pon and the asterisk..?`
`18:14.44`	`RoyK`	`no`
`18:14.55`	`RoyK`	`SIP client - asterisk - SIP client`
`18:15.05`	`RoyK`	`both clients must understand g.723.1`
`18:15.23`	`RoyK`	`if asterisk is connected to pstn, it will not work`
`18:15.30`	`astra^^`	`i am hittin the iconnect server`
`18:15.30`	`RoyK`	`because then it'll need to do transcoding`
`18:15.34`	`Qwell`	`RoyK: good`
`18:15.40`	`Qwell`	`directly logging to nfs would be bad`
`18:15.45`	`RoyK`	`why?`
`18:15.57`	`Qwell`	`because if the nfs dies, so does *, I think`
`18:16.05`	`RoyK`	`hm`
`18:16.07`	`RoyK`	`perhaps.....`
`18:16.19`	`RoyK`	`syslog is good`
`18:16.24`	`RoyK`	`no blocking shite`
`18:16.26`	`RoyK`	`just udp`
`18:17.00`	`Qwell`	`real men log directly to a serial line printer :P`
`18:17.14`	`Qwell`	`that's how old school pbxes do it, heh`
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`18:17.37`	`Qwell`	`;]`
`18:19.30`	`RoyK`	`hm`
`18:19.58`	`RoyK`	`does anyone know how i can tell syslog to never log local3.* on disk, but only on another box?`
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`18:24.43`	`ambriento`	`RoyK, local3.* @some_other_host`
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`18:29.27`	`linuxgeekuk`	`hey people is there a problem with sourceforge`
`18:29.40`	`gongoputch`	`what does 'managed extension' mean?`
`18:29.41`	`Qwell`	`yes`
`18:29.47`	`Qwell`	`gongoputch: use it in a sentence`
`18:30.03`	`RoyK`	`ambriento: that doesn't stop it from being logged locally`
`18:30.19`	`gongoputch`	`"It is ideally suited for system integrators, as it allows the combination of manually configured parts of the dialplan with automatically generated managed extensions and routes. End users can take advantage of scripts shipped with PBX Manager and create extensions in a point and click fashion."`
`18:30.35`	`Qwell`	`extensions that you can manage`
`18:30.43`	`Qwell`	`they tried to invent a buzzword`
`18:30.50`	`gongoputch`	`Qwell: lol`
`18:30.54`	`Qwell`	`I'm serious`
`18:31.15`	`gongoputch`	`it is from "Thirdlane Asterisk PBX Manager" description on www.voip-info.org`
`18:31.22`	`Qwell`	`if a pbx can't manage extensions, I'd be scared`
`18:31.23`	`gongoputch`	`I believe you`
`18:31.32`	`kimc`	`RoyK: . @loghost`
`18:32.01`	`gongoputch`	`I am still becoming familiar with the foundational concepts and terminology`
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`18:32.10`	`RoyK`	`kimc: erm. i want to log everything locally except local3`
`18:32.22`	`gongoputch`	`I bought 2 snom 320 phones to play with.`
`18:33.05`	`gongoputch`	`and a zaptel clone modem`
`18:33.30`	`alephcom`	`\`
`18:33.31`	`gongoputch`	`but I am finding the scope of asterisk to be somewhat daunting`
`18:33.33`	`alephcom`	`ASCFG0`
`18:34.00`	`alephcom`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:35.05`	`ambriento`	`he speaks aloudm doesnt alephcom ?`
`18:35.08`	`ambriento`	`:)`
`18:35.18`	`ambriento`	`aloud*`
`18:36.34`	`alephcom`	`yeah :-)`
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`18:40.35`	`ambriento`	`royk, just dont worry about whats being logged locally`
`18:40.57`	`RoyK`	`ambriento: heh. indeed i do`
`18:41.02`	`ambriento`	`you can setup a 1 day rotate`
`18:41.05`	`ambriento`	`:)`
`18:41.16`	`RoyK`	`ambriento: but i found it. just do local3.* /dev/null and local3.* @somehost`
`18:41.31`	`ambriento`	`or a cronjob to get rid of the local3 logs`
`18:41.33`	`RoyK`	`I want to do _massive_ logging and I don't want to do that I/O on the asterisk server`
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`18:41.47`	`RoyK`	`so network logging is what i want`
`18:41.53`	`RoyK`	`the disk space is not a problem`
`18:41.57`	`RoyK`	`but the I/O load is`
`18:42.37`	`ambriento`	`and to write the logs on /dev/null will decrease the load?`
`18:42.37`	`RoyK`	`full debug logging and hundereds of concurrent calls generates quite some logfiles`
`18:42.47`	`RoyK`	`of course`
`18:42.50`	`ambriento`	`I see`
`18:43.14`	`RoyK`	`and i want full debug logs`
`18:43.18`	`RoyK`	`when something crashes`
`18:43.22`	`RoyK`	`and it always does`
`18:43.36`	`ambriento`	`thats quite reading stuff huh ? :)`
`18:43.45`	`gongoputch`	`AM (http://astman.sourceforge.net/) seems a bit out of date ... ?`
`18:44.05`	`RoyK`	`ambriento: I don't read them unless I have to, and then I find the time when something happened.... etc.`
`18:44.41`	`ambriento`	`I got your point`
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`18:47.11`	`RoyK`	`like now, when i'm trying to find this asterisk memory leak :(`
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`18:53.16`	`konfuzed`	`hey has anyone used the x100p.com cards`
`18:53.57`	`gongoputch`	`Any one using http://www.micpc.com/astwebmgr/ ?`
`18:54.02`	`cpm`	`I've not used the x100p card, but I have used the x100-fx box, and I wasn't pleased with it`
`18:54.21`	`RoyK`	`how do i specify a log file for gdb?`
`18:54.28`	`RoyK`	`or may i use gdb in batch mode?`
`18:54.33`	`RoyK`	`cut/paste sucks`
`18:55.24`	`konfuzed`	`cpm, hmm is that like an fx gateway or an actual motherboard with a few x100p cards on it`
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`19:02.26`	`RoyK`	`methinks cpm is a prehistoric so-called operating system`
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`19:03.09`	`gongoputch`	`RoyK: pre-historic !!! lol`
`19:03.18`	`RoyK`	`:)`
`19:03.37`	`gongoputch`	`I don't consider myself old, and I remember it coming out!`
`19:03.52`	`gongoputch`	`DOS sucked compared to it`
`19:05.18`	`gongoputch`	`I have a Z80 around here still with CPM 2.2 in ROM`
`19:05.46`	`cpm`	`good stuff that.`
`19:05.49`	`cpm`	`Unlike this;`
`19:05.51`	`cpm`	`http://pastebin.com/596649`
`19:06.19`	`cpm`	`which is my result from trying this http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/asterisk+at+home+festival+weather+configuration`
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`19:07.41`	`astra^^`	`a server what supports g711 will it support g729`
`19:07.55`	`cpm`	`konfuzed, the x100-fx is a box that is supposed to be a less expensive alternative to the iaxy, with more codecs, a pots pass through, and a mini ethernet hub, which is great, only it sucks`
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`19:08.06`	`RoyK`	astar`: just purchase the codec
`19:08.20`	astar`	`no not enough money`
`19:08.24`	astar`	`:p`
`19:08.31`	`astra^^`	`k`
`19:08.34`	`RoyK`	`get two for testing`
`19:08.42`	`astra^^`	`k`
`19:08.43`	`RoyK`	`or use the 'free' one`
`19:09.10`	`RoyK`	`if you're setting up a large system, you should be able to pay for the licenses`
`19:09.52`	`astra^^`	`can u tell me how do we enable the licensed ver of g729 on the asterisk`
`19:10.09`	`RoyK`	`copy the codec into /usr/lib/asterisk/modules`
`19:10.22`	`RoyK`	`register it as described in the readme`
`19:10.25`	`RoyK`	`and you're up`
`19:10.43`	`RoyK`	`you can download the codec from digium`
`19:10.53`	`RoyK`	`and, of course, load the module :P`
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`19:15.52`	`Tamarisk`	`Can anyone help in why I can not get speech between two SIP phones`
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`19:16.22`	`Tamarisk`	`A Grandstream ATA and X-lite Softphone`
`19:16.45`	`Tamarisk`	`Both can get the echo test individually`
`19:17.14`	`Tamarisk`	`when one extension call the other it rings, has all the correct CID`
`19:17.40`	`Tamarisk`	`but when answering the is no speach and rtp debug shows no data`
`19:18.15`	`Tamarisk`	`You can place onto hold any end and * says there is MOH but never heard`
`19:18.35`	`Tamarisk`	`Any help greatly received`
`19:19.01`	`RoyK`	`in sip.conf, set disallow=all and allow=alaw`
`19:19.03`	`RoyK`	`and try again`
`19:19.16`	`RoyK`	`in both peers`
`19:19.27`	`RoyK`	`no speech is usually just a codec issue`
`19:19.31`	`RoyK`	`~no audio`
`19:19.39`	`Tamarisk`	`I think I have that set but let me check it again`
`19:20.28`	`RoyK`	`jbot: no audio is usually a codec issue. start with trying to set 'disallow=all' and 'allow=alaw' in sip.conf or the channel's config file if not using sip`
`19:20.30`	`jbot`	`RoyK: okay`
`19:20.32`	`RoyK`	`~no audio`
`19:20.43`	`RoyK`	`~audio`
`19:20.44`	`jbot`	`audio is, like, usually a codec issue. start with trying to set 'disallow=all' and 'allow=alaw' in sip.conf or the channel's config file if not using sip`
`19:20.49`	`RoyK`	`erm`
`19:20.52`	`RoyK`	`oh well`
`19:21.46`	`Tamarisk`	`Perhaps I have gone over the top in having that in a general section and then for each user`
`19:21.57`	`Tamarisk`	`in my sip.conf`
`19:22.08`	`Tamarisk`	`I will try to pastebin to indicate`
`19:22.13`	`RoyK`	`sip show peer xxx will show codec pref`
`19:22.16`	`RoyK`	`sip show peer xxx will show codec prefs`
`19:22.24`	`RoyK`	`the effective one`
`19:22.26`	`RoyK`	`try that first`
`19:22.42`	`Tamarisk`	`xxx being one of the user?`
`19:22.46`	`RoyK`	`yes`
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`19:25.02`	`Tamarisk`	`for one of the two 'phone' Codec order (alaw, g726, ulaw, ilbc)`
`19:25.44`	`Tamarisk`	`for the other 'adrian' Codec order alaw, ulaw, ilbc)`
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`19:29.46`	`Tamarisk`	`Is there any other pointers I can check`
`19:30.43`	`RoyK`	`set disallow=all, allow=alaw in both sip peers`
`19:30.43`	`RoyK`	`and try again`
`19:31.08`	`RoyK`	`if it doesn't work, try turning on sip debug (sip debug) and pastebin the results`
`19:31.13`	`Tamarisk`	`As in remove all the other codecs`
`19:31.15`	`Tamarisk`	`?`
`19:31.20`	`RoyK`	`yes, sir :)`
`19:31.27`	`SwK_`	`whats the with the svn mirrors?`
`19:31.36`	`Tamarisk`	`OK going off to try, back in a tic`
`19:36.28`	`Tamarisk`	`Ok with a reload after changing sip.conf codecs are only alaw still have same issue`
`19:37.05`	`RoyK`	`[20:31] RoyKif it doesn't work, try turning on sip debug (sip debug) and pastebin the results`
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`19:48.36`	`astra^^`	`Royk: y is it wen we place a call it rings for 3 times and ten cuts off.`
`19:49.10`	`astra^^`	`503 error`
`19:49.22`	`Tamarisk`	`RohK. Sorry for delay http://pastebin.com/596694 Hope I have got what is required debug on tried from phone to adrian which is 102 to 100, no audio`
`19:49.40`	`Tamarisk`	`RoyK sory for that!`
`19:50.24`	`Tamarisk`	`* anyone want the flu?`
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`19:52.58`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`19:53.13`	Lino`	`those digium guys are quite funny`
`19:53.17`	Lino`	`and they have nice mousepads`
`19:53.18`	Lino`	`:-P`
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`19:54.09`	`gandhijee`	`can the TDM400 accept groundstart signaling?`
`19:55.29`	`mog_work`	`nop`
`19:55.30`	`mog_work`	`e`
`19:55.42`	`mog_work`	thanks Lino`
`19:55.56`	`gandhijee`	`is that nope directed towards me mog?`
`19:56.16`	`Qwell`	`yep`
`19:56.23`	`Qwell`	`:D`
`19:56.37`	`Qwell`	`mog_work: 2 days!`
`19:56.47`	`Tamarisk`	`Noticed RoyK has left, can anyone else help?`
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`19:57.47`	`mog_work`	`yes gandhijee`
`19:57.52`	`mog_work`	`only our t1 cards can do gs`
`20:00.36`	`gandhijee`	`well that does me no good...`
`20:00.45`	`gandhijee`	`i need groundstart on the TDM`
`20:01.13`	`gandhijee`	`i have lines coming in to my site that are groundstart.`
`20:01.34`	Lino`	`hmmm @ mog_work i just came back from hannover fair`
`20:01.34`	`gandhijee`	`there are only 4 lines, so it wasn't cost effective to get a PRI on site`
`20:01.44`	Lino`	`talked to one of your coworkes for quite a time`
`20:01.45`	Lino`	`;)`
`20:01.55`	`Qwell`	`digium boys scare me :D`
`20:01.57`	`mog_work`	`well the only way you can do it is with a t1 and a channel bank`
`20:02.00`	`mog_work`	`at least with asterisk`
`20:02.03`	`mog_work`	ahh who Lino` ?
`20:02.04`	Lino`	`your interface cards are looking quite good`
`20:02.06`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`20:02.06`	`mog_work`	`kenny?`
`20:02.08`	Lino`	`yeah`
`20:02.11`	`mog_work`	`he is good guy`
`20:02.27`	Lino`	`XD`
`20:02.35`	`gandhijee`	`so TDM's can only accept loopstart?`
`20:02.39`	`gandhijee`	`that kinda sucks`
`20:02.40`	`mog_work`	`loop and kewl`
`20:02.57`	`mog_work`	`but thats the way all of em are`
`20:03.02`	`mog_work`	`except maybe those dialogic boards`
`20:03.13`	`mog_work`	`but that is as expensive as getting a t1 and a channel bank anyways`
`20:03.21`	Lino`	`right next to the digium booth was a canadian company who also makes isdn interface cards... that guy over there was scary...`
`20:03.33`	`mog_work`	`sangoma?`
`20:03.37`	Lino`	`yeah`
`20:03.45`	`Qwell`	`sangoma was next to the digium booth?`
`20:03.47`	`Qwell`	`oh boy`
`20:03.50`	`mog_work`	`hehe`
`20:03.54`	`Qwell`	`I would pay to see that`
`20:03.56`	Lino`	`the guy was from poland, could not stand HFC cologne chips`
`20:04.14`	`mog_work`	`hmm cebit fun?`
`20:04.26`	Lino`	`i went to the booth and said to my dad: look at them, most probably they are using HFC cologne chips as well but they must be hiding it`
`20:04.30`	Lino`	`then the guy went mental`
`20:04.41`	Lino`	`waaaaah nooooo thats waaaar.`
`20:04.47`	`mog_work`	`heh`
`20:04.48`	`gandhijee`	`well is there a BRI card in that works with asterisks in America`
`20:04.59`	Lino`	`cologne chip sucks we rule oh yeah youre dumb`
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`20:12.10`	`dja_`	`hi. anyone using privacy manager? I'm having problems making it work...one of my providers sends "anonymous", which isn't caught by the PrivacyManager routine`
`20:14.29`	`gandhijee`	`so anyone know of a BRI ISDN card that works with asterisk and america?`
`20:18.19`	`mog_work`	`i doubt any do gandhijee`
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`20:19.46`	`gandhijee`	`wow, i am up shits creek without a paddle for this one site then`
`20:20.06`	`mog_work`	`voip gandhijee ?`
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`20:20.39`	`gandhijee`	`well the site has 4 POTS line that are signaled via groundstart`
`20:20.47`	`gandhijee`	`plan was to use a TDM400`
`20:21.14`	`gandhijee`	`if that failed, it was cost effiecent to go to BRI lines and get a BRI card (if one was to exist) and setup the site`
`20:21.24`	`mog_work`	`well there are bri cards`
`20:21.36`	`gandhijee`	`i coulda swore that the TDM could handle groundstart`
`20:21.41`	`mog_work`	`but i dont think there is any signalling for it`
`20:21.41`	`mog_work`	`nope`
`20:21.44`	`mog_work`	`nobodies does`
`20:21.52`	`gandhijee`	`ahhh`
`20:21.56`	`mog_work`	`our t1 cards do`
`20:22.01`	`mog_work`	`but not tdm`
`20:22.18`	`gandhijee`	`verizon won't provide us with a 4 line PRI`
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`20:22.25`	`harryvv`	`really`
`20:22.28`	`harryvv`	`why is that?`
`20:22.28`	`gandhijee`	`yeah`
`20:22.41`	`gandhijee`	`because we the place is out in the boonies.`
`20:22.45`	`mog_work`	`why not go voip?`
`20:22.49`	`mog_work`	`do you have bandwith?`
`20:22.52`	`gandhijee`	`its a motel`
`20:23.02`	`gandhijee`	`the only thing they need is local calling`
`20:23.11`	`harryvv`	`gandhijee that probebly makes sence. it would be to cost prohibative to lay new cable just for one client.`
`20:23.15`	`gandhijee`	`they pay like 100 bux for the bill on 4 lines`
`20:23.46`	`gandhijee`	`the mitel system this was gonna replace accepts groundstart over the analog lines.`
`20:23.54`	`gandhijee`	`POTs lines ratehr`
`20:23.57`	`gandhijee`	`*rather`
`20:24.15`	`harryvv`	`so your installing asterisk vs mital?`
`20:24.40`	`harryvv`	`btw, has anyone made any java products for asterisk?`
`20:24.52`	`gandhijee`	`asterisk will replace the mitel system`
`20:24.56`	`gandhijee`	`in the end.`
`20:25.11`	`harryvv`	`really`
`20:25.16`	`mog_work`	`java asterisk`
`20:25.19`	`mog_work`	`and jasterisk`
`20:25.29`	`mog_work`	`both agi sdk stuff`
`20:25.40`	`harryvv`	`I was working at this one place that has or had 20 mital pbx servers and thay are installing voip.`
`20:26.09`	`gandhijee`	`Mitel is some expensive ass shit`
`20:26.21`	`harryvv`	`mog, was curios. I am learning java right now so want to see how asterisk works with java apps.`
`20:26.55`	`harryvv`	`brb`
`20:27.26`	`gandhijee`	`mog`
`20:27.44`	`gandhijee`	`: you think it might be possible to modify the zaptel drivers to make the TDM accept the groundstart?`
`20:27.59`	`gandhijee`	`i am willing to put my time in to it, if it might be possible`
`20:28.16`	`Qwell`	`it should still work in like ls or ks, no?`
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`20:28.52`	`Dovid`	`hello all`
`20:28.59`	`gandhijee`	`i dunno, the line is setup as groundstart from verizon`
`20:29.07`	`Dovid`	`having a problem using ${exten} can anyone help ?`
`20:29.16`	`Qwell`	`Dovid: ${EXTEN}`
`20:29.24`	`gandhijee`	`so doesn't the terminating end need to be setup to terminate groundstart as well`
`20:30.50`	`Dovid`	`Qwell: Still getting used to linux. it worked. Thanks`
`20:31.46`	`Dovid`	`also having a problem with Background for some reason in only one context it insists on using playback, in the context it says background however in the cli it says playback`
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`20:37.23`	`DaveHope`	`Evening everyone. I'm an asterisk newb (inspired by the two FOSDEM talks) and was wondering if someone could take a look at my brief dialplans and point out my silly error ? (getting pbx_extension_helper: Cannot find extension context messages)`
`20:39.52`	`Dovid`	`hi`
`20:40.08`	`Dovid`	`after using playdigits it wont go to the next line can anyone help ?`
`20:40.08`	`DaveHope`	`o/`
`20:40.13`	`Dovid`	`dial plan here`
`20:40.15`	`Dovid`	`http://pastebin.ca/45265`
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`20:41.49`	`Dovid`	`DaveHope: goto pastebin.ca put it in cant say i can figure out but will try`
`20:42.28`	`gandhijee`	`davidhope: pastebin it`
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`20:42.38`	`DaveHope`	`Damin: http://internal.davehope.co.uk/~dave/asterisk.tar`
`20:42.53`	`Dovid`	`gandhijee: can u like at my pastebin ?`
`20:44.00`	`DaveHope`	`My problem is this. When trying to make sip calls to, say, 600 it fails to find the context.`
`20:44.05`	`Dovid`	`http://pastebin.ca/45266`
`20:44.27`	`gandhijee`	`dovid: maybe its a bug?`
`20:44.44`	`gandhijee`	`dave: pastebin. i don't want to download shit`
`20:44.54`	`DaveHope`	`gandhijee: Okies.`
`20:44.57`	`Dovid`	`dave whats ur probelm`
`20:44.58`	`Dovid`	`?`
`20:45.09`	`Dovid`	`gona use timeout function for now`
`20:47.26`	`gandhijee`	`Dovid: on line 11 in the pastebin, change the ) to a ]`
`20:47.45`	`gandhijee`	`Dovid: #`
`20:47.45`	`gandhijee`	`#`
`20:48.07`	`gandhijee`	`#`
`20:48.07`	`gandhijee`	`[ThumimHomeEmergencySetAck)`
`20:48.17`	`gandhijee`	`should be [ThumimHomeEmergencySetAck]`
`20:49.00`	`DaveHope`	`http://pastebin.com/596813`
`20:49.51`	`Dovid`	`gandhiJee: problem was that I was using waitexten to give the user time to enter the number, gona have to leave a pause after the message`
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`20:52.33`	`AJay-MN`	`is there a command you can issue to see what codec an extension is using ?`
`20:53.03`	`Dovid`	`Ajay-MN: use help command in CLI`
`20:53.24`	`AJay-MN`	`but i dont see one to list what codec an extension is currently using.`
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`21:00.04`	`Dovid`	`any reason why asterisk will use playback even though I specified background ?`
`21:00.15`	`gandhijee`	`you could always just check the iax.conf or sip.conf Ajay`
`21:00.22`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`21:00.47`	Lino`	`i have a cisco 7920 wireless phone with sccp (sccp2 channel)`
`21:00.52`	Lino`	`when i dial, the phone restarts`
`21:01.14`	`Qwell`	Lino`: weird. might want to check the chan-sccp-users archives
`21:01.20`	`Qwell`	`got the latest firmware on it?`
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`21:01.27`	Lino`	`yeah`
`21:01.29`	Lino`	`its brand new`
`21:01.31`	`laloseanez_1969`	`Hi somebody can help me with a problem I have sith x-lite and asterisk@home?`
`21:01.36`	`Qwell`	`brand new != latest firmware :)`
`21:01.40`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`21:01.44`	`Qwell`	`brand new == oldest firmware`
`21:01.50`	`gandhijee`	`Lino': where'd you get it from and how much it cost you?`
`21:01.51`	`Qwell`	`They all ship with old stuff`
`21:01.56`	Lino`	`:D`
`21:01.58`	`Qwell`	`gandhijee: They're about $400 iirc`
`21:02.09`	Lino`	`i paid €180`
`21:02.18`	Lino`	`heavily discounted, but shipped directly from cisco`
`21:02.20`	Lino`	`@_@`
`21:02.24`	`gandhijee`	`Qwell: yeah i know, but maybe he found a bargian`
`21:02.28`	`Qwell`	`direct sell agreement?`
`21:02.33`	Lino`	`its the newest firmware`
`21:02.37`	`Qwell`	Lino`: You sure?
`21:02.40`	`gandhijee`	`180 us dollars?`
`21:02.44`	`x86`	`w00t`
`21:02.48`	Lino`	`180 € != 180 usd`
`21:02.52`	`Qwell`	`on most of the phone, they ship them all with the same firmware, unless there is some glaringly obvious bug`
`21:03.02`	`Qwell`	`phones*`
`21:03.03`	`x86`	`hooked my DCM speakers and Technics reciever back up to my PC in my computer room :)`
`21:03.04`	`gandhijee`	`my POS machien isn't tranlating the symbol you are putting in`
`21:03.07`	Lino`	`180€ = 215 USD`
`21:03.15`	`gandhijee`	`pounds?`
`21:03.17`	Lino`	`euro`
`21:03.20`	`justinu`	`DCM timewindows`
`21:03.21`	`gandhijee`	`ahh euro, ok`
`21:03.22`	`Qwell`	`215...yeah, that's the direct sell price`
`21:03.25`	Lino`	`oh pounds would be evil`
`21:03.26`	`Qwell`	`plus battery?`
`21:03.27`	`gandhijee`	`still thats not bad`
`21:03.34`	`Qwell`	`battery/charger`
`21:03.38`	Lino`	`nono including battery and charger`
`21:03.41`	`Qwell`	`really?`
`21:03.42`	`gandhijee`	`what vendor?`
`21:03.47`	Lino`	`got it over "contacts"`
`21:03.52`	`gandhijee`	`ahh got ya`
`21:04.02`	`Qwell`	`They pretty much threw in the battery then...that's cool`
`21:04.04`	Lino`	`some guy at a big company which buys thousands of cisco phones / year`
`21:04.20`	`Qwell`	Lino`: How's it working out for you?
`21:04.25`	Lino`	`well`
`21:04.30`	Lino`	`actually, not really well`
`21:04.34`	`Qwell`	`besides the obvious reboot thing`
`21:04.40`	Lino`	`i got several 7960 up and running`
`21:04.47`	Lino`	`the phone is great`
`21:04.59`	Lino`	`small, not too heavy`
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`21:05.07`	Lino`	`nice backlight`
`21:05.15`	`Nugget`	`backlight? on a 7960?`
`21:05.18`	Lino`	`7920`
`21:05.19`	`Qwell`	`7920`
`21:05.24`	Lino`	`:D`
`21:05.24`	`gandhijee`	`7960 have a backlight?`
`21:05.26`	Lino`	`no`
`21:05.27`	`Qwell`	`gandhijee: no`
`21:05.30`	Lino`	`7920 have a backlight`
`21:05.31`	`gandhijee`	`oh`
`21:05.33`	`Qwell`	`does the 7961? I've not seen those yet`
`21:05.38`	Lino`	`no`
`21:05.41`	`Qwell`	`lame`
`21:05.59`	`gandhijee`	`do the new ones with the touchscreen have a backlight?`
`21:05.59`	Lino`	`only 7970 / 7971`
`21:05.59`	Lino`	`yeah`
`21:05.59`	Lino`	`they have a backlight`
`21:05.59`	`Skid`	`yeah`
`21:05.59`	`gandhijee`	`cool`
`21:05.59`	`Qwell`	`they have to...`
`21:06.00`	`Skid`	`damn sexy`
`21:06.07`	Lino`	`and they are fucking expensive`
`21:06.07`	`Skid`	`there's a sip image for them now`
`21:06.07`	`x86`	`it's funny... you can get a BT101 for $40 with a backlight and all... for $400 more you can get a cisco that barely supports SIP and has no backlight ;)`
`21:06.15`	`Skid`	`forgot about it the other day`
`21:07.05`	`gandhijee`	`i wish the polycom had backlight`
`21:07.05`	Lino`	`lol`
`21:07.15`	`Qwell`	`Do you people really use your phones in the dark?`
`21:07.15`	`Nugget`	`I'm looking forward to pickup up a 7970, now that there's a SIP image for them`
`21:07.54`	`Qwell`	`Nugget: meh, sccp 4 lyfe`
`21:07.54`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`21:07.54`	Lino`	`skinny or sccp2 ?`
`21:07.54`	`Qwell`	`chan_sccp`
`21:07.54`	`*** join/#asterisk Sconk (n=klaus@c-5d0671d5.08-10-68617010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)`
`21:07.55`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`21:07.58`	`mog_work`	`or what about chan_skinny qwell...............................................................`
`21:08.07`	`Qwell`	`mog_work: It's uglified :(`
`21:08.15`	Lino`	`actually i have a good distributor for used (!) cisco equipment right heree`
`21:08.16`	Lino`	`here`
`21:08.21`	Lino`	`well they are not actually cheap`
`21:08.26`	`mog_work`	`or what about chan_skinny qwell...............................................................`
`21:08.33`	`Qwell`	`It needs to be...`
`21:08.36`	Lino`	`but they have lots of alcohol`
`21:08.37`	`Qwell`	`Qwell...i..fied!`
`21:09.04`	`Qwell`	`Qwell can't code though. shh!`
`21:09.10`	`Qwell`	`It's all a big conspiracy`
`21:09.50`	`mog_work`	`so your like me?`
`21:09.53`	`Qwell`	`right`
`21:09.55`	`mog_work`	`i have a mono to C translator`
`21:09.58`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`21:10.08`	`Qwell`	`C# > VB > C, in my case`
`21:10.16`	`laloseanez_1969`	`Hi guys anybody can help with asterik@home?`
`21:10.25`	`mog_work`	`~aah`
`21:10.27`	`jbot`	`from memory, aah is Asterisk@Home. The Asterisk@Home support forum is here: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=420324`
`21:12.40`	`Nugget`	`jbot sure does have a good memory. I can't even remember what I had for breakfast.`
`21:15.18`	`Qwell`	`~Nugget_breakfast_20060311`
`21:15.19`	`Qwell`	`You had nothing for breakfast this morning.`
`21:15.19`	`justinu`	`wake and bake'll do that to you`
`21:15.19`	`justinu`	`i decided to go to breakfast this morning... i was wondering why everything was so fucking crowded`
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`21:15.19`	`gandhijee`	`wake -n- bakes`
`21:15.19`	`justinu`	`"oh yeah - it's saturday"`
`21:15.20`	`Nugget`	`I'm not baked, I'm deep fried.`
`21:15.20`	`justinu`	`fucking people`
`21:15.20`	`justinu`	`nugget: this is your brain on drugs<sizzlle/>`
`21:15.20`	`Qwell`	`So...anybody else going to VON?`
`21:15.20`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`21:15.20`	Lino`	`now im trying something`
`21:15.20`	Lino`	`if thats working, digium is the king`
`21:15.23`	`mog_work`	`woohoo`
`21:15.38`	Lino`	`:D`
`21:15.48`	Lino`	`reboots`
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`21:19.33`	`gandhijee`	`Qwell: what location?`
`21:19.47`	`Qwell`	`san jose`
`21:20.20`	`gandhijee`	`Qwell: prolly not, i'll be at VON Boston again if they have it there`
`21:21.07`	`mog_work`	`they will`
`21:21.19`	`Qwell`	`too many VONs`
`21:21.29`	`Qwell`	`That last email they sent...man`
`21:21.34`	`Qwell`	`like 10 in the next like 4 months, heh`
`21:21.40`	`gandhijee`	`lol`
`21:21.48`	`gandhijee`	`http://www.win-ent.com/PL-01025.htm`
`21:21.53`	`Qwell`	`11 by Dec`
`21:21.56`	`gandhijee`	`that bitch would make a nice asterisk server`
`21:22.21`	`gandhijee`	`head asterisk server i should say`
`21:22.33`	`Qwell`	`gandhijee: not really`
`21:22.58`	`gandhijee`	`off load the TCP/IP and VPN to the safecel chip`
`21:22.58`	`Qwell`	`it isn't even a dual core`
`21:23.22`	`gandhijee`	`then make VPN tunnels to the Sites, encypted VoIP services`
`21:23.40`	`Qwell`	`I don't think that would be able to handle the encryption load`
`21:23.47`	`gandhijee`	`yeah it can`
`21:23.55`	`gandhijee`	`its offloaded to a dedicated processor`
`21:24.09`	`Qwell`	`how many simultaneous calls are we talking here?`
`21:24.50`	`gandhijee`	`i have a 1.8 Pentium M that does about 170`
`21:24.55`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`21:24.58`	Lino`	`skinny dies on me`
`21:24.59`	`Qwell`	`with encryption?`
`21:25.03`	`gandhijee`	`no`
`21:25.07`	Lino`	`evil skinny`
`21:25.40`	`gandhijee`	`http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2003_Sept_9/ai_107455509`
`21:25.47`	`kippi`	`if I want to allow sip from an external source, what ports do i need to open?`
`21:25.50`	`gandhijee`	`there is the info on the SafeCel processor`
`21:27.52`	`gandhijee`	`5060, 10k to 20k`
`21:28.02`	`gandhijee`	`you can trim the 10 to 20 down to prolly 10 to 15`
`21:29.12`	`Qwell`	`mog_work: Do the...umm...the new devices...you know...netsec stuff. Do they do vpn/encryption at all?`
`21:31.10`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`21:31.12`	Lino`	`little freak`
`21:31.21`	Lino`	`digium is the king`
`21:31.49`	`mog_work`	`?`
`21:31.49`	`mog_work`	`woohoo!`
`21:32.43`	`gandhijee`	`anyone know what might cause a POTs line to go from Loopstart to groundstart?`
`21:34.06`	Lino`	`:D`
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`21:34.16`	Lino`	`well it does not work at all but i get an MWI`
`21:34.19`	Lino`	`and thats a good start`
`21:34.20`	`Qwell`	`woohoo`
`21:36.00`	`Qwell`	`I need to test out the new 8.0.2 sccp firmware on my 7960`
`21:37.21`	`Dovid`	`how do I use the asterisk symbol for an extension ?`
`21:37.26`	`Qwell`	`*?`
`21:37.28`	`Dovid`	`Exten => **,1 ?`
`21:37.34`	`Qwell`	`that'd work, yeah`
`21:37.41`	`Dovid`	`not workin let me look`
`21:37.41`	`Dovid`	`brb`
`21:37.42`	`Qwell`	`exten => **,1,blah()`
`21:37.50`	`Qwell`	`check your phones dialplan (if it's SIP)`
`21:38.05`	`Dovid`	`exten => **,1,answer`
`21:38.12`	`Qwell`	`That should work, sure`
`21:38.15`	`Dovid`	`it goes to i rule`
`21:38.20`	`Qwell`	`hmm`
`21:38.22`	`Dovid`	`leme retest`
`21:38.23`	`Dovid`	`brb`
`21:38.36`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`21:38.47`	Lino`	`i'll update to asterisk 1.2.5 and then i'll have another try`
`21:39.11`	`Dovid`	`yea workin, had to reload twice for some reason`
`21:39.45`	`Dovid`	`dont know but some dial plan configs dont reload after using reload i have to stop when convenient and restart asterisk`
`21:40.06`	`Qwell`	`all you need to do is 'extensions reload'`
`21:40.13`	`Dovid`	`thanks`
`21:40.18`	`Dovid`	`just used to reload`
`21:42.22`	`[av]bani`	`Qwell: warezed it then?`
`21:42.26`	`Qwell`	`no`
`21:42.29`	`Qwell`	`waiting on you to :P`
`21:42.32`	`[av]bani`	`ha`
`21:42.55`	`[av]bani`	`it works, theres nothing really new in sccp 8.0.2`
`21:42.59`	`[av]bani`	`its still broken :\|`
`21:43.13`	`Qwell`	`it does work?`
`21:43.22`	`[av]bani`	`yes, but same bugs as 7.x`
`21:43.32`	`Qwell`	`neat`
`21:43.39`	`[av]bani`	`looks like the dialed numbers bugs is a chan_sccp bug`
`21:44.17`	`[av]bani`	`theres no blf support in the sip image`
`21:44.23`	`Qwell`	`shame`
`21:44.30`	`[av]bani`	`its probably deliberate`
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`21:44.36`	`Qwell`	`likely`
`21:44.40`	`[av]bani`	`cisco is grudgingly 'supporting' sip, but they want it to die`
`21:45.07`	`[av]bani`	`so they give a crippled sip image which barely supports anything`
`21:45.33`	`[av]bani`	`and arbitrary 'limits' on sip features, for no good reason`
`21:45.52`	`[av]bani`	`except to punish those who dare to use a protocol other than the holy protocol`
`21:46.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I think "wanting it to die" is a good reason....`
`21:46.16`	`[av]bani`	`well, its not going to die, no matter what cisco does`
`21:46.21`	`[av]bani`	`so its basically punishment`
`21:47.51`	Lino`	`lol`
`21:48.00`	Lino`	`who needs to warez cisco firmwares lol`
`21:48.13`	`Qwell`	Lino`: people too cheap to pay $8
`21:48.19`	`Qwell`	`like [av]bani here`
`21:48.27`	`Qwell`	`...and...me`
`21:48.35`	`Qwell`	`and my work`
`21:48.36`	Lino`	`lol`
`21:48.37`	Lino`	`:D`
`21:48.44`	Lino`	`i paid 5 euros`
`21:48.53`	`Qwell`	`we've only got a trillion dollars in accounts`
`21:48.58`	`Qwell`	`I don't know if we can afford $8 :P`
`21:49.07`	Lino`	`i mean wtf`
`21:49.13`	`Qwell`	`bastards, heh`
`21:49.34`	Lino`	`(i dont support ciscos licensing policy, i actually believe there are some hardcore oldschool nazis in the licensing department)`
`21:49.55`	Lino`	`why should i pay several 100 bucks for a fricken phone`
`21:50.04`	`Qwell`	`because it's worth it`
`21:50.13`	`Qwell`	`I think anybody can agree with that.`
`21:50.16`	Lino`	`another big bunch of cash for the license`
`21:50.19`	Lino`	`yeah`
`21:50.21`	`justinu`	`a good phone is nice to have`
`21:50.29`	Lino`	`a really big bunch for the power supply`
`21:50.34`	`Qwell`	`$29`
`21:50.36`	`Qwell`	`or poe`
`21:50.37`	`justinu`	`needed power supplies is lame tho`
`21:50.44`	`justinu`	`s/needed/needing`
`21:50.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : Polycom is better for the money.... Cisco is nice but overpriced regardless...`
`21:50.52`	Lino`	`and an annual fee of really absolutely unaffordable 5 euros`
`21:50.53`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: sure`
`21:51.02`	Lino`	`XD`
`21:51.18`	Lino`	`isnt polycom the "hell starts here" thing?`
`21:51.36`	`FuriousGeorge`	`can i catch the "h-extension" in a macro or after the macro returns?`
`21:51.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	Lino` : News to me. Works great, decently priced
`21:52.21`	`Dovid`	`hey will thsi work Exten => ##,1,Blah() ?`
`21:52.24`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`21:52.40`	`Qwell`	`Dovid: many phones don't send #`
`21:52.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Dovid : You'll get an Application "Blah" not registered error ;)`
`21:52.48`	Lino`	`i frequently get emails from poor suckers which do not have the smartnet contract`
`21:52.57`	Lino`	`cant they get the contract without license?`
`21:53.07`	Lino`	`i mean you buy it and enter the number and woosh`
`21:53.10`	`Dovid`	`i know used blah as temp`
`21:53.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Dovid : Yes, your exten statement is otherwise fine...`
`21:55.02`	`FuriousGeorge`	`ok, here's a tough one. if i setsipheader with autoanswer=yes, will app_page work as an intercom?`
`21:55.33`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i*autoanswer=0`
`21:56.32`	`FuriousGeorge`	`0/2`
`21:57.29`	`Dovid`	`:)`
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`22:07.10`	Lino`	`lol`
`22:07.31`	Lino`	`my cisco distributor sells smartnet for 3 euro, could have saved some money -.-`
`22:07.55`	`Dovid`	`is this correct Exten => 2,1,Voicemail(u:2@ThumimHomeMain) ?`
`22:08.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`remove the ":"`
`22:08.15`	`Dovid`	`just u followed by the box number ?`
`22:08.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`yup`
`22:08.25`	`Qwell`	`or 2@HomeMain,u`
`22:08.39`	`Qwell`	`the latter is the "new" way`
`22:08.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`exten => 2,1,Voicemail(u2@ThumimHomeMain)`
`22:09.18`	`Dovid`	`not workin`
`22:09.44`	`Qwell`	`are your voicemail boxes in the ThuminHomeMain context in voicemail.conf?`
`22:10.02`	`Dovid`	`yes`
`22:10.06`	`Dovid`	`without the u it works fine`
`22:10.09`	`Dovid`	`i get this in the CLI`
`22:10.13`	`Dovid`	`Mar 12 05:03:16 WARNING[22187]: app_voicemail.c:2411 leave_voicemail: No entry in voicemail config file for '2'`
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`22:13.07`	`Dovid`	`found it. didnt use caps lock`
`22:13.58`	`Dovid`	`still getting used to linux`
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`23:14.29`	`bugz`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:14.42`	`Qwell`	`no 7914, but you must use sccp for that`
`23:15.02`	`bugz`	`Qwell: it has the 7.6 sip image on it`
`23:15.11`	`Qwell`	`Then you can't use the 7914`
`23:15.11`	`bugz`	`can i still put the 7.5 sccp back on it?`
`23:15.15`	`Qwell`	`sure`
`23:15.23`	`Qwell`	`7.0.3 I believe the newest is`
`23:15.28`	`Qwell`	`7.2.3? something`
`23:15.35`	`Qwell`	`(I don't trust 8.x yet)`
`23:16.37`	`bugz`	`P003-07-3-00.bin`
`23:16.44`	`bugz`	`P003-07-5-00.bin`
`23:16.48`	`Qwell`	`that'll do it`
`23:16.48`	`bugz`	`this is the latest i have`
`23:17.00`	`Qwell`	`are those the universal application loaders though?`
`23:17.04`	`bugz`	`no`
`23:17.10`	`bugz`	`i need to obtain that too`
`23:17.15`	`bugz`	`along with the firmware for the module`
`23:17.35`	`bugz`	`applicate upgrade fails with just those files..`
`23:17.44`	`bugz`	`P003-07-5-00.sbn`
`23:17.49`	`bugz`	`have that too`
`23:18.01`	`bugz`	`i probably need something like`
`23:18.02`	`Qwell`	`you need like`
`23:18.05`	`bugz`	`P003-07-5-00.loads`
`23:18.11`	`Qwell`	`P00307020400.bin`
`23:18.37`	`Qwell`	`along with the P003-07-x-00.sbn and .bin also`
`23:18.48`	`bugz`	`im confused`
`23:18.52`	`bugz`	`whats the difference`
`23:18.54`	`Qwell`	`and the .loads, sb2, and sbn for the first`
`23:18.59`	`Qwell`	`one is the UAL I believe`
`23:19.09`	`bugz`	`P00307020400.bin <- what is this`
`23:19.11`	`Qwell`	`don't recall`
`23:19.15`	`Qwell`	`That's the sccp firmware`
`23:19.40`	`Qwell`	`You need that (and the other 3 similarly named files), for sure`
`23:24.23`	`[av]bani`	`cisco phones are the most confusing to provision`
`23:24.36`	`[av]bani`	`polycom is almost as bad`
`23:24.38`	`bugz`	`i have a pretty decent setup as far as that goes`
`23:24.55`	`bugz`	`all i do is polycoms though, so its been frustrating`
`23:25.18`	`[av]bani`	`polycom is a pita, becuase they dont document anything`
`23:25.34`	`[av]bani`	`cisco phones are made to be used with ccm, so if you do it yourself you're on your own`
`23:25.37`	`bugz`	`i just hate the fact that you cannot tell a polycom to use a static ip remotely`
`23:25.45`	`[av]bani`	`sure you can, dhcp`
`23:25.56`	`Qwell`	`If you control the dhcp server`
`23:25.56`	`bugz`	`youd think you should be able to tell the damn phone what ip it should use with a config file`
`23:26.19`	`[av]bani`	`how can you tell it that? it needs an ip to get the config file in the first place`
`23:26.22`	`bugz`	`Qwell: thats usually a problem`
`23:26.27`	`Qwell`	`bugz: yeah`
`23:27.08`	`bugz`	`[av]bani: why shouldnt you be able to tell it to overwrite that setting and reboot .. its an engineering shortcoming`
`23:27.29`	`[av]bani`	`bugz: you can`
`23:27.44`	`bugz`	`once a phone has acquired a dhcp ip and that is known, you should be able to do anything to it with a config file update`
`23:27.57`	`bugz`	`some settings just cannot be addressed in the config file`
`23:28.07`	`bugz`	`[av]bani: how?`
`23:28.56`	`[av]bani`	`bugz: from the phone ui`
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`23:36.36`	Lino`	`hmmm`
`23:38.11`	`alephcom`	`I recently installed 1.2.4 on a box along with asterisk-addons. I'm having a problem with the mysql realtime addon. I get a core dump as soon as any sip activity happens. Any suggestions/comment?`
`23:41.02`	Lino`	`have you tried using 1.2.5 ?`
`23:42.51`	`bkw__`	`alephcom, do you use sip realtime?`
`23:42.53`	`bkw__`	`or mysql?`
`23:43.06`	`Qwell`	`bkw__: hey`
`23:43.09`	`bkw__`	`hoe`
`23:43.15`	`Qwell`	`wtf did you just call me?`
`23:43.33`	`Qwell`	`oh, 'hoe'. okay, I misread`
`23:43.51`	`bkw__`	`haha`
`23:43.58`	`alephcom`	`let me check the version.`
`23:44.06`	`bkw__`	`alephcom, do you use it?`
`23:44.10`	`bkw__`	`do you actually use sip realtime?`
`23:44.55`	`alephcom`	`I installed the mysql database connection stuff from asterisk-addons. The asterisk install works fine until I enable the sippeers and sipusers in extconfig.conf`
`23:45.06`	`bkw__`	`why are you using that?`
`23:45.10`	`bkw__`	`how many peers do you have?`
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`23:45.31`	`bkw__`	`unless you have 1000+ peers you better not use sip realtime`
`23:45.40`	`bkw__`	`even then it will start to buckle`
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`23:45.47`	`alephcom`	`It's for a client. Ok...`
`23:46.05`	`bkw__`	`try to stay away from database as a dependancy`
`23:46.07`	`alephcom`	`Hmmm`
`23:46.44`	`Qwell`	`some people use a database, as a place to store stuff, and they regenerate the flat config files when they're needed`
`23:46.48`	`Qwell`	`it's mostly the best of both worlds`
`23:46.55`	`alephcom`	`He is totally opposed to configuration using vi. :-) I'll talk to him though. That might be the thing to do...`
`23:47.08`	`alephcom`	`So we're not presently recommending -realtime for small installs?`
`23:47.18`	`bkw__`	`I don't recommend realtime for ANY install`
`23:47.21`	`bkw__`	`but thats just me :P`
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`23:48.23`	`Qwell`	`two people (who don't like each other) that run large providers...both hate realtime. :p`
`23:48.31`	`Qwell`	`coincidence? I think not`
`23:49.01`	`alephcom`	`Yeah, interesting....`
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`23:52.35`	`Qwell`	`so do I`
`23:54.13`	`kippi`	`where can I find an example of how to use voicemail, so after like 10 rings it goes to voicemail`
`23:55.36`	`Qwell`	`kippi: look at the stdexten macro`
`23:55.44`	`Qwell`	`in the sample extensions.conf`

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