| 00:00.05 | Heimidal | Strom_C: no.. they're both on the same subnet |
| 00:00.17 | Strom_C | is the tftp server running? :) |
| 00:00.22 | Heimidal | as far as I can tell |
| 00:01.19 | Strom_C | can you tftp from another client? |
| 00:02.39 | *** part/#asterisk SparFux (n=player@e182030071.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 00:02.58 | Luke-Jr | any way to tell Asterisk to immediately retry when it determines a peer is "UNREACHABLE"? |
| 00:03.28 | Strom_C | Luke-Jr, in my experience it retries fairly quickly |
| 00:03.31 | Heimidal | hmm.. apparently I can't |
| 00:03.42 | Strom_C | Heimidal, double-check your server config |
| 00:07.26 | *** join/#asterisk mrtwister|mobile (n=andrius@cable-10-68.cgates.lt) |
| 00:13.19 | Lino` | lol |
| 00:13.48 | Lino` | meet the fockers |
| 00:21.05 | Heimidal | hmm... it even times out locally |
| 00:21.08 | Heimidal | I don't understand |
| 00:21.25 | *** join/#asterisk mogorman (n=mogorman@68.62.237.103) |
| 00:28.55 | ManxPower | Heimidal, sounds like you have iptables/ipchains loaded on the machine. |
| 00:29.42 | *** join/#asterisk octothorpe (n=octothor@unaffiliated/octothorpe) |
| 00:30.57 | Heimidal | I'm starting to get somewhere |
| 00:31.23 | rene- | Heimidal: was Manx right? is it was a firewall issue? |
| 00:31.56 | Heimidal | rene-: it still might be.. the machine has two NICs, so I just tried the other IP |
| 00:32.35 | Heimidal | and it's working! |
| 00:32.36 | Heimidal | yay |
| 00:32.44 | rene- | cool |
| 00:33.06 | rene- | so you can connect to tftp now? |
| 00:33.13 | Heimidal | yes |
| 00:33.20 | rene- | and can the phone connect? |
| 00:33.40 | tehdely | is this a polycom phone |
| 00:33.45 | rene- | cisco |
| 00:33.47 | tehdely | nvm, just scroleld up |
| 00:33.48 | rene- | 7940 |
| 00:33.51 | Heimidal | hmm |
| 00:33.56 | Heimidal | "Phone Uprovisioned" |
| 00:34.30 | rene- | can you see the logs at tail /var/log/messages ? |
| 00:34.33 | ManxPower | two nics makes things MUCH more complicated |
| 00:34.50 | rene- | there must be stuff related to your phone pulling or trying to pull stuff from tftp |
| 00:34.57 | rene- | if the firewall is allowing it |
| 00:35.04 | ManxPower | rene-, not if the phone isn't even trying to do it. |
| 00:35.30 | Heimidal | the phone's firmware is upgraded |
| 00:35.38 | Heimidal | so it is definitely contacting the TFTP server |
| 00:35.47 | Heimidal | there's just something wrong with the options set for the phone, I guess |
| 00:35.54 | rene- | ManxPower: correct, as long as dhcpd is properly configured |
| 00:36.17 | rene- | there is a list of files to be pulled by your phone |
| 00:36.53 | rene- | if it is configured to do so, and it actually reaches the server then you should see at least try to pull one |
| 00:37.30 | rene- | what i would do is to try to connect to the tftp server from the same subnet as i dont know if you already have |
| 00:38.39 | rene- | Heimidal: are you seeing actual renews of the dhcp lease to your phone? |
| 00:38.58 | Heimidal | yes |
| 00:39.27 | rene- | have you resetted dhcpd after adding the tftp option to it? |
| 00:39.36 | rene- | s/resetted/restarted |
| 00:39.56 | *** join/#asterisk stefan (i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au) |
| 00:40.00 | Heimidal | the problem isn't server-related anymore |
| 00:40.04 | Heimidal | it has something to do with files |
| 00:40.55 | jebmpls | Anyone worked with some pap2's and nat issues? |
| 00:41.20 | rene- | well if it is in that stage then you should see the request for files in the log |
| 00:41.33 | jebmpls | I can call out from either line, but when I call from line1 to line2 I get no audio |
| 00:41.46 | rene- | tftp will write something to the log whenever a file is requested or transferred |
| 00:42.17 | rene- | jebmpls: weird |
| 00:42.34 | *** join/#asterisk zotz (n=zotz@24.231.32.85) |
| 00:42.46 | Strom_C | jebmpls, is the call going through the asterisk box? |
| 00:42.49 | rene- | Heimidal: you can tftp locally |
| 00:42.52 | rene- | right? |
| 00:42.55 | Strom_C | or is line1 calling line2 directly? |
| 00:43.02 | jebmpls | The Asterisk box in on a public ip and the pap2 is behind a router. |
| 00:43.05 | Heimidal | rene-: not using the LAN address, just the public address |
| 00:43.08 | Heimidal | but that's no big deal |
| 00:43.11 | Heimidal | errr |
| 00:43.15 | Heimidal | by LAN, I meant private |
| 00:43.18 | Strom_C | jebmpls, are there any differences in how the two lines are provisioned on the PAP2? |
| 00:43.24 | rene- | sure |
| 00:43.28 | jebmpls | Just on different ports. |
| 00:43.42 | Strom_C | everything else is *identical*? |
| 00:44.23 | jebmpls | Yes. |
| 00:44.40 | rene- | you should be able to tftp to your LAN address since that is what the phone knows |
| 00:44.41 | Strom_C | odd. lemme twiddle with mine and see if I have the same problem |
| 00:45.08 | jebmpls | When I had a packet sniffer running, I could see that it was attempting to bridge the two ports using the routers public ip on one side |
| 00:45.13 | jebmpls | The router does not like that. |
| 00:45.26 | Strom_C | what kind of router? |
| 00:45.40 | ManxPower | I thought the asterisk server had two IP addresses? |
| 00:45.43 | jebmpls | We have moved the PAP2 to the same network as the asterisk server that it works fine. |
| 00:45.55 | jebmpls | It is a a Buffalo |
| 00:45.57 | rene- | Heimidal: maybe you could use the windows tftp server in the end, just point to it from your dhcpd and get away with it |
| 00:46.08 | Heimidal | the TFTP server is no longer an issue |
| 00:46.21 | Heimidal | I just need to know how to setup the phone to register with Asterisk |
| 00:46.58 | rene- | well Aaron sent configuration files |
| 00:47.04 | jebmpls | Also, I can call from either line to a softphone running on the same network as the PAP2. |
| 00:47.11 | jebmpls | with no issue |
| 00:47.17 | Heimidal | right... but I'm not sure what all of the configuration options do |
| 00:47.27 | rene- | you are using them you just need them set to match your own asterisk/sip.conf |
| 00:47.33 | Strom_C | jebmpls, ok, give me a minute |
| 00:47.44 | rene- | well you dont need to know everything yet |
| 00:47.56 | rene- | sipura xml is over 500 parameters |
| 00:48.02 | Lino` | lol |
| 00:48.04 | rene- | no need to know them all |
| 00:48.14 | Lino` | sipura is almost as bad as cisco |
| 00:48.30 | rene- | Lino: I agree |
| 00:48.33 | Lino` | those cisco 7970 xml files are fricken long |
| 00:49.02 | Heimidal | rene-: which line tell the phone where the asterisk server is? |
| 00:49.09 | Lino` | how long should the display be lit, how big should the viewing angle be, how far do i have to throw the phone in order to deny the call |
| 00:49.27 | rene- | Lino: LOL |
| 00:49.56 | Lino` | yeah look at cisco, they dont even have a button to reject a call on a 500$ phone |
| 00:49.57 | rene- | Heimidal: one second im reading what Aaron sent, i havent seen a cisco xml yet since i dont have the cco |
| 00:50.19 | Lino` | yeah... its complicated ;) |
| 00:50.55 | Strom_C | jebmpls, on my PAP2, it appears that the call is handed off to the PAP2 and nothing gets sent across the ethernet interface at all. it just bridges the two lines together |
| 00:51.10 | Strom_C | jebmpls, pastebin the relevant portions of your sip.conf please |
| 00:53.36 | jebmpls | [line1] |
| 00:53.36 | jebmpls | type=friend |
| 00:53.36 | jebmpls | host=dynamic |
| 00:53.36 | jebmpls | dtmfmode=rfc2833 |
| 00:53.36 | jebmpls | context=sip |
| 00:53.37 | *** join/#asterisk naturalblue (n=Administ@87.192.100.109) |
| 00:53.38 | jebmpls | [line2] |
| 00:53.41 | jebmpls | type=friend |
| 00:53.43 | jebmpls | host=dynamic |
| 00:53.44 | Strom_C | jebmpls, PASTEBIN |
| 00:53.46 | jebmpls | dtmfmode=rfc2833 |
| 00:53.50 | Strom_C | dont spam the channel |
| 00:53.54 | Strom_C | ~pastebin |
| 00:54.00 | jbot | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 00:54.00 | jebmpls | oops, sorry |
| 00:54.00 | naturalblue | hey there |
| 00:54.36 | Strom_C | hello naturalblue |
| 00:54.45 | naturalblue | i got an annoyed but trivial little problem if someone wouldn't mind throwin an eye on |
| 00:54.52 | Strom_C | just ask |
| 00:54.58 | Strom_C | someone will help if they know the answer |
| 00:55.18 | naturalblue | incoming call fro my pstn line (siplae analog phone line) nevers shows Callerid |
| 00:55.29 | naturalblue | works on voip calls |
| 00:55.36 | Lino` | but it does show callerid on a usual phone? |
| 00:55.40 | Strom_C | is your telco delivering callerID over your pots line? |
| 00:55.41 | Lino` | when you connect the phone to the line? |
| 00:56.00 | naturalblue | and worked when i had a simple phone with display attached to that line |
| 00:56.05 | jebmpls | http://pastebin.com/622573 |
| 00:56.11 | Lino` | hm |
| 00:56.16 | naturalblue | yes on a normal phone works |
| 00:56.28 | Strom_C | jebmpls, add "nat=yes" to both of those |
| 00:56.36 | Strom_C | then reload and see if it's still broken |
| 00:56.40 | jebmpls | will do |
| 00:56.44 | *** join/#asterisk project_2501 (n=project-@S01060004e2929dc9.br.shawcable.net) |
| 00:57.01 | Lino` | (ot: i was rather shocked first time i was in texas, american callerid nearly shows everything about the caller... name, number, part of the address ;)) |
| 00:57.17 | Strom_C | naturalblue, what kind of POTS interface card are you using? |
| 00:57.19 | Lino` | (ot-continued: the only thing missing was credit card and social security number *g*) |
| 00:57.49 | Strom_C | Lino`, You should see my super caller ID program that does whole database queries every time I get an inbound call |
| 00:57.50 | jebmpls | Well, that did not help. |
| 00:58.00 | *** join/#asterisk MacDome (n=eseidel@c-71-198-177-144.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 00:58.03 | Heimidal | hmm... what would be the proper way to configure a new in asterisk? |
| 00:58.13 | Jon335 | Strom_C: can I see your program? |
| 00:58.37 | Strom_C | http://www.stromcarlson.com/misc/super_caller_id_sm_2.jpg |
| 00:58.45 | Lino` | @strom_c how does it work? |
| 00:58.47 | naturalblue | strom_c: shitty x101p clone |
| 00:58.57 | Strom_C | naturalblue, that might be part of the problem... |
| 00:59.05 | naturalblue | i was thining that |
| 00:59.11 | Lino` | lol |
| 00:59.14 | Lino` | wyse terminal |
| 00:59.15 | Jon335 | Strom_C: Sweet!! |
| 00:59.17 | rene- | Heimidal: http://pastebin.ca/46980 |
| 00:59.21 | Lino` | i love terminals |
| 00:59.22 | naturalblue | i wanna get a tdm |
| 00:59.25 | Strom_C | jebmpls, let me show you what my SIP config looks like |
| 00:59.29 | naturalblue | but wanted to make sure first |
| 00:59.34 | *** join/#asterisk MacDome (n=eseidel@c-71-198-177-144.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 00:59.54 | rene- | Heimidal: is actually not that difficult |
| 01:00.06 | rene- | can you try to change the files aaron provided? |
| 01:00.14 | Lino` | @strom_c what kind of database do you query? |
| 01:00.38 | rene- | just look for the parts that i have changed and remember that the things with # are comments and those you dont need them |
| 01:00.42 | jebmpls | That would be great. |
| 01:01.26 | Heimidal | I'm just not sure what lines I need to add to asterisk's conf files to let the phone register |
| 01:01.35 | rene- | Heimidal: i pasted the sipdefault first and then the sip<macaddress> |
| 01:01.42 | ManxPower | Lino`, consumer callerid just has name and number |
| 01:01.52 | Strom_C | jebmpls, http://pastebin.com/622579 |
| 01:02.01 | rene- | Heimidal: you know how to add sip users to your asterisk? |
| 01:02.06 | Strom_C | Lino`, I query LERG |
| 01:02.24 | Lino` | whats that? |
| 01:02.27 | naturalblue | anyone know of a mms program from asterisk |
| 01:02.44 | rene- | Heimidal: add two a users in sip.conf the phone supports two lines i think |
| 01:02.45 | Strom_C | Lino`, Local Exchange Routing Guide from Telcordia |
| 01:02.45 | jebmpls | Storm_C, Thanks, I will take a look and let you know. |
| 01:02.47 | Lino` | (i'm from germany, we have something called the bdsg - roughly translated federal data protection law) |
| 01:03.02 | Strom_C | who the hell is Storm? |
| 01:03.03 | Strom_C | :) |
| 01:03.52 | Lino` | (that law requires anybody to save only a minimum amount of data and it prohibits the transfer of personal data unless explicitly approved) |
| 01:04.02 | Lino` | so something as nice as that would be impossible here |
| 01:04.20 | Lino` | it was even forbidden until 2005 to reverse lookup an address with a phone number |
| 01:04.23 | Strom_C | Lino`, I do all of that based only on the phone number |
| 01:04.25 | ManxPower | Lino`, all phone companies in the USA allow users to do per call callerid blocking as well as perm callerid blocking. |
| 01:04.38 | Lino` | yeah |
| 01:04.50 | Lino` | i know that you can block it, but here its a bit complicated |
| 01:04.50 | ManxPower | Of course, there is no requirement that I accept calls from blocked numbers and MANY MANY people subscribe to a service that automatically rejects calls from blocked numbers |
| 01:04.59 | Lino` | first of all callerid is only possible with ISDN here |
| 01:05.21 | Lino` | AND callerid is exactly JUST the phone number |
| 01:05.40 | Lino` | AND databases like those are virtually impossible to find, unless your a criminal or a data miner or a hacker. |
| 01:05.46 | ManxPower | Lino`, in the USA callerid info is sent as 1200 baud FSK pulse between the first and 2nd ring |
| 01:06.08 | Lino` | hmmm |
| 01:06.21 | Lino` | that would be very difficult here |
| 01:06.25 | Lino` | our PSTN works different |
| 01:06.49 | Lino` | today its fully digital |
| 01:06.51 | Lino` | (ISDN) |
| 01:07.18 | Lino` | if you want to have analog stuff you (or your carrier) will have to install a curbside converter from digital -> analog |
| 01:07.21 | *** join/#asterisk anonymouz666 (n=lynx@ns2.redetaho.com.br) |
| 01:07.30 | ManxPower | Lino`, in the USA it's fully digital as well, except for the actual loop between the suscriber and the CO. The telcos priced ISDN out of the market a long time ago |
| 01:07.53 | Lino` | until 1994 it was even prohibited to connect a phone to the jack yourself |
| 01:08.01 | rene- | LIno: So no caller id name in ISDN bri? |
| 01:08.11 | ManxPower | in most parts of the USA an ISDN BRI line would be about 4x as expensive as analog service |
| 01:08.17 | Lino` | no caller id name in ISDN |
| 01:08.20 | Lino` | bri & pri |
| 01:08.24 | Lino` | just the number |
| 01:08.43 | Lino` | in germany analog telephony is more expensive than isdn |
| 01:08.50 | Lino` | i believe. |
| 01:08.56 | Lino` | i pay let me think |
| 01:09.01 | rene- | ManxPower: does US T1 has that limitation when ISDN signalling is used? |
| 01:09.07 | Lino` | something like 60 euros for |
| 01:09.11 | Strom_C | rene-, that's called "PRI" |
| 01:09.12 | Lino` | ok |
| 01:09.21 | ManxPower | rene-, what limitation? |
| 01:09.23 | Strom_C | and no, the telco can deliver name over PRI |
| 01:09.34 | Lino` | 90 euros for 3 ISDN lines (6 B channels, 3 D channels) |
| 01:09.35 | Strom_C | along with a whole ton of other goodness |
| 01:09.43 | Lino` | 1 6 Mbit leased line internet |
| 01:09.49 | Lino` | and 1 20 mbit leased line internet |
| 01:10.11 | Lino` | strom, you seem to be a telephony freak |
| 01:10.12 | Lino` | ;) |
| 01:10.19 | Strom_C | duh |
| 01:10.23 | Strom_C | www.stromcarlson.com |
| 01:10.30 | Strom_C | phones phones phones and phones |
| 01:10.46 | rene- | Strom:: in Mexico the carrier refers to PRI as ISDN/E1, but no caller id name here, PRI has a different meaning to most people around here anyway |
| 01:11.09 | Strom_C | yeah, I know, the Partido Revolucion Something-or-other :) |
| 01:11.14 | Lino` | whew |
| 01:11.17 | Lino` | nice phone booths |
| 01:11.27 | Lino` | look at german phone booths, they arent even booths anymore |
| 01:11.37 | Lino` | just a phone on a stick. no roof, no door no privacy |
| 01:11.43 | Lino` | they even have a redial button. |
| 01:11.56 | rene- | Institucional |
| 01:11.58 | Lino` | and local calls are charged by the minute (thats the normal practice here) |
| 01:12.31 | Lino` | and the phones are butt ugly |
| 01:12.32 | Lino` | http://www.the-exit.net/bilder/party-events/audioblogger/HF_sections/content/telefonzelle.JPG < |
| 01:12.41 | rene- | gold made phones that is cool |
| 01:12.48 | jebmpls | Strom_C, Thanks for the info. However, it still am still haveing the same issue. |
| 01:13.28 | Sedorox | looks like a polycom phone in a booth |
| 01:13.40 | rene- | Lino: the phone is not ugly well the handset color is ughh not cool bot the phone looks great |
| 01:13.46 | rene- | s/bot/but |
| 01:13.53 | Lino` | :-P |
| 01:13.57 | Lino` | well |
| 01:14.02 | Lino` | you cant dial fast |
| 01:14.07 | Lino` | the quality is the worst |
| 01:14.16 | Lino` | but they are robust |
| 01:14.20 | Lino` | like a tank |
| 01:15.01 | rene- | yeah people get mad at phones, so mouch more to the ones they dont own. so they must be sturdy, |
| 01:15.02 | Lino` | and guess what, the ex-monopoly phone carrier deutsche telekom ag (yes, thats t-mobile for you) has this ugly color everywhere |
| 01:15.18 | rene- | it is very ugly |
| 01:15.27 | Sedorox | no.. its fugly |
| 01:15.27 | Sedorox | :p |
| 01:15.30 | rene- | he |
| 01:15.49 | Lino` | the white pages (phone book, telefonbuch) have this color, the phones, the bills, everything ;) |
| 01:16.23 | Lino` | and our still-monopoly-postal-service is yellow ;) |
| 01:16.59 | Lino` | (deutsche post ag / dhl) |
| 01:17.06 | Jon335 | Strom_C: Does LERG cost alot? |
| 01:17.26 | docelmo | Yes. |
| 01:17.27 | Strom_C | Jon335, yes |
| 01:17.30 | docelmo | I just bought one |
| 01:17.30 | rene- | so it is a monopolly controlled by a foreign entity (DP AG)? |
| 01:17.32 | docelmo | :) |
| 01:17.43 | Lino` | well |
| 01:17.44 | docelmo | I have a e.164 lerg tho |
| 01:17.47 | Lino` | thats complicated |
| 01:18.20 | Lino` | back in 1994 the so called "deutsche bundespost" (german federal postal service) had a monopoly for letters and telephony |
| 01:18.24 | ManxPower | How much does the LERG cost anyway? |
| 01:18.40 | docelmo | Its based on Subscription and you get monthly update.. |
| 01:18.52 | docelmo | I think my company pays like 20k a year or something |
| 01:19.08 | ManxPower | *nod* 20k/year is what I thought. |
| 01:19.14 | Lino` | eventually they lost the telephony monopoly and did a spin off (deutsche telekom ag / deutsche post ag) |
| 01:19.40 | Lino` | telekom did the phone, post did the postal service (and postbank did the banking stuff but that spinoff happened just a year ago) |
| 01:20.35 | Lino` | some years ago they bought dhl et voila, that semi-monopoly marketshare allows them to charge 55 cent for a single letter with a within-europe destination |
| 01:20.45 | Lino` | and 7 euro for a domestic parcel. |
| 01:20.50 | Lino` | (i.e. rip off) |
| 01:21.14 | rene- | i see |
| 01:21.46 | rene- | so they bought the dhl germany operation |
| 01:21.52 | Lino` | no, worldwide |
| 01:22.02 | rene- | really, wow |
| 01:22.21 | rene- | but the not so cool part is that they charge so much |
| 01:22.29 | Lino` | you know dhl? |
| 01:22.31 | rene- | same thing here, monopolies make companies charge more |
| 01:22.55 | Heimidal | what does "Reorder" mean? |
| 01:23.07 | Lino` | yeah. they did not just buy dhl, they also bought excel, airborne, parcelforce |
| 01:23.09 | Strom_C | Heimidal, "fast busy" |
| 01:23.15 | Heimidal | hmm |
| 01:23.18 | rene- | airborne opeate here also |
| 01:23.21 | rene- | operates |
| 01:23.22 | Strom_C | a reorder is an error tone |
| 01:23.33 | Heimidal | so now I've just gotta figure out how to make outbound calls |
| 01:24.00 | Lino` | they paid like one billion dollars for airborne express |
| 01:24.12 | rene- | check your codecs, in sip.conf make sure you are allowing alaw and ulaw |
| 01:24.22 | rene- | and g729 if your box supports it |
| 01:24.34 | rene- | your phone is registering right> |
| 01:24.38 | Heimidal | yes |
| 01:24.41 | Heimidal | wait |
| 01:24.43 | Heimidal | I don't know |
| 01:25.55 | Lino` | sip show clients |
| 01:25.57 | Lino` | in cli |
| 01:26.27 | Lino` | woah i hate working overnight |
| 01:26.35 | ManxPower | sip show peers |
| 01:26.39 | Lino` | peers |
| 01:26.40 | Lino` | sry |
| 01:26.41 | Lino` | :D |
| 01:26.58 | Lino` | staring at a fricken screen looking for error messages and answering phone calls |
| 01:27.14 | Lino` | its 3:30 in the morning, every normal person should be asleep by now |
| 01:27.15 | rene- | the telephone monopoly here is private and has over 90% of mexican telephony, it also runs something like 50% of south american telephony, his head is second richest after Bill Gates. he is not going to charge less anytime soon |
| 01:27.26 | Heimidal | yes, they registering |
| 01:27.43 | Lino` | hmmm rene, thats bad if a single bastard owns the place |
| 01:27.48 | rene- | Heimidal: what about a sip show peer username |
| 01:27.56 | Sponge_bob | Can asterisk interface with cisco call manager? |
| 01:28.02 | rene- | Lino: yeah makes things go slower |
| 01:28.18 | Lino` | what do you mean Sponge_bob? |
| 01:28.22 | Lino` | asterisk can do sccp |
| 01:28.26 | rene- | asterisk can talk sip and so cisco if that is what you mean |
| 01:28.35 | ManxPower | Sponge_bob, your extensive search of the mailinglists was not helpful? |
| 01:28.38 | Sponge_bob | rene-: right |
| 01:28.52 | Lino` | cisco cant really do sip |
| 01:28.56 | Sponge_bob | i didn't know mailinglists exists. where can i go |
| 01:28.58 | rene- | Lino: heh |
| 01:29.04 | Heimidal | rene-: a whole lot of info |
| 01:29.09 | Lino` | some phones have an optional sip firmware |
| 01:29.15 | Lino` | like the 7960 or the 7940 |
| 01:29.20 | rene- | Heimidal: check for the codec line |
| 01:29.26 | rene- | see what asterisk is supporting |
| 01:29.27 | Sponge_bob | i have a cisco 7960 with sip firmware |
| 01:29.28 | Lino` | and the 7970 |
| 01:29.33 | ManxPower | So if Cisco's version of SIP is backwards, would that mean their protocol would have to be called PIS? |
| 01:29.38 | rene- | for that phone |
| 01:29.40 | Lino` | :-P |
| 01:29.41 | MGSsancho | ol |
| 01:29.42 | Sponge_bob | haha |
| 01:29.43 | Lino` | ok |
| 01:29.43 | rene- | hehe |
| 01:29.54 | MGSsancho | *lol |
| 01:29.55 | Lino` | Sponge_bob 1) your nick is too long |
| 01:30.02 | Qwell | So, I'd like to make a wager... |
| 01:30.06 | Heimidal | rene-: shouldn't something show up in the cli when I try to make a phone call? |
| 01:30.09 | Lino` | 2) update the config file and set your asterisk as the first line proxy |
| 01:30.11 | Qwell | $20 says Verizon buys Sprint within 18 months. |
| 01:30.11 | Sponge_bob | I couldn't think of anything....I'll change it someday |
| 01:30.18 | Lino` | ;) |
| 01:30.37 | rene- | Heimidal: verbose is above or at 3 |
| 01:30.39 | rene- | ? |
| 01:30.42 | Lino` | @quell would that mean the only ones left are t-mobile and verizon? |
| 01:30.44 | Heimidal | oh, 4 |
| 01:30.46 | Heimidal | err |
| 01:30.46 | Heimidal | 3 |
| 01:30.52 | Qwell | Lino`: and SBC |
| 01:30.58 | Lino` | sbc does mobile? |
| 01:31.03 | Qwell | I wan't talking just mobile |
| 01:31.04 | rene- | Heimidal: then try with the sip debug |
| 01:31.07 | Lino` | oh |
| 01:31.09 | Lino` | kk |
| 01:31.10 | Sponge_bob | where can i go for mailing lists? |
| 01:31.17 | rene- | Heimidal: cli> sip debug |
| 01:31.22 | Qwell | but, since Verizon and Sprint both do CDMA, it only makes sense that it would be Verizon that buys Sprint |
| 01:31.25 | Lino` | i hate verizon, dunno why. maybe because their advertising is crap |
| 01:31.26 | rene- | sip debug on i think |
| 01:31.31 | Heimidal | nothing |
| 01:31.45 | rene- | try to make a call |
| 01:31.53 | rene- | something must pop up |
| 01:32.04 | Lino` | that stupid guy at the end of the commercial "can you hear me now?" - lol hes stupid. |
| 01:32.22 | Heimidal | nothing shows up |
| 01:32.32 | Heimidal | I have a dial tone, but it doesn't register anything in the console |
| 01:32.46 | Strom_C | US phone company overview: AT&T, Qwest, Verizon, BellSouth |
| 01:32.51 | Lino` | the tone is generated by the phone |
| 01:32.52 | Strom_C | AT&T is buying BellSouth |
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| 01:33.01 | Lino` | isnt att sbc now? |
| 01:33.02 | Heimidal | oh.. heh |
| 01:33.07 | Strom_C | AT&T and BellSouth have a joint venture called Cingular Wireless |
| 01:33.09 | Heimidal | no, sbc is AT&T now |
| 01:33.12 | rene- | if the phone is registering to asterisk then if you have sip enabled you should see sip msgs fly |
| 01:33.15 | Sponge_bob | If someone already has a cisco call manager setup can they create a dialplan for me to connect to asterisk via SIP? |
| 01:33.21 | Strom_C | Lino`, SBC bought AT&T and renamed themselves AT&T |
| 01:33.26 | Lino` | (i always want to write spd or spc... spd is a german social democratic party, spc is ibm solution partnership center) |
| 01:33.27 | Qwell | Strom_C: You need to make a timeline... |
| 01:33.29 | Lino` | lol |
| 01:33.32 | Strom_C | Qwell, I should |
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| 01:33.37 | Qwell | Strom_C: start with AT&T, and end up at... |
| 01:33.38 | Qwell | AT&T |
| 01:33.39 | Lino` | so the sa,tx spc center will be at&t center soon? |
| 01:33.46 | rene- | leaving bye |
| 01:33.55 | Heimidal | asterisk*CLI> sip show peers |
| 01:33.55 | Heimidal | Name/username Host Dyn Nat ACL Port Status |
| 01:33.55 | Heimidal | 852 (Unspecified) D 0 Unmonitored |
| 01:33.55 | Heimidal | 802 (Unspecified) D 0 Unmonitored |
| 01:33.56 | Heimidal | 2 sip peers [2 online , 0 offline] |
| 01:33.57 | Strom_C | Lino`, it already is AT&T Center as far as I kow |
| 01:34.00 | Heimidal | crap, didn't mean to flood |
| 01:34.02 | Heimidal | sorry |
| 01:34.02 | Qwell | Strom_C: So, they are taking the AT&T name? |
| 01:34.06 | Qwell | lame |
| 01:34.07 | Strom_C | Qwell, yes |
| 01:34.12 | rene- | Heimidal no registration for your phones |
| 01:34.20 | Strom_C | BellSouth will become AT&T, Cingular will become AT&T Wireless |
| 01:34.30 | Heimidal | Qwell: worldwide brand recognition vs midwest US brand recognition |
| 01:34.42 | Heimidal | I *hate* AT&T Wireless :P |
| 01:34.43 | rene- | their IPs should be listed |
| 01:34.47 | Heimidal | oh...hmm |
| 01:34.47 | Qwell | and I give it < 24 months before AT&T buys Verizon |
| 01:34.49 | rene- | in sip show peers |
| 01:35.01 | Qwell | Then, you just have Qwest...which has been ready to die for years, heh |
| 01:35.14 | Heimidal | what kind of auth does Cisco phones use? |
| 01:35.40 | Strom_C | Qwell, I think Verizon might buy Qwest |
| 01:35.45 | rene- | if the phones are reachiing the asterisk box you should see error messages if the problem was authentication |
| 01:35.47 | Qwell | somebody is going to |
| 01:35.49 | Lino` | ;) |
| 01:35.51 | rene- | probably we are at provisioning |
| 01:35.53 | rene- | still |
| 01:35.57 | Heimidal | hmm |
| 01:36.04 | Qwell | Strom_C: What do you think about Verizon+Sprint? |
| 01:36.07 | Strom_C | Verizon can pay down Qwest's debt and trim the fat |
| 01:36.27 | Qwell | here's my question... |
| 01:36.28 | Strom_C | Qwell, Unlikely. Sprint seems to have no desire to be part of the local phone market |
| 01:36.30 | Qwell | how the hell is this legal? |
| 01:36.43 | Strom_C | Qwell, competition from cable companies and CLECs |
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| 01:39.52 | Lino` | doesnt america have antitrust laws? |
| 01:40.19 | Heimidal | yes |
| 01:40.20 | Lino` | or has my personal friend george w. bush already abolished those? |
| 01:40.24 | Heimidal | :P |
| 01:40.34 | Qwell | Lino`: You have to understand, that all of these companies WERE AT&T at one point in time. They were legally forced to split up. |
| 01:40.42 | Lino` | yeah |
| 01:40.51 | Lino` | but why the hell are they allowed to do a merger |
| 01:40.52 | Lino` | ? |
| 01:41.00 | Qwell | got me |
| 01:41.10 | Strom_C | Lino`, the telecom market has changed dramatically since 1984 |
| 01:41.14 | Lino` | like split up the stuff, spit in it, mix it up a little, do some big fat layoffs and then merge again? |
| 01:41.22 | Strom_C | the 1996 telecom act really fucked the US telecom industry |
| 01:41.31 | Lino` | why? |
| 01:41.38 | Heimidal | ok.. stuff is definitely flying by on the cli now |
| 01:41.39 | Qwell | Strom_C: Who actually owns the lines now? AT&T again? |
| 01:41.57 | Strom_C | opened everything up to massive competition and took a huge chunk out of the financial health of the telcos |
| 01:42.16 | Strom_C | Qwell, anything that's part of the AT&T last-mile network, yes |
| 01:42.41 | Qwell | which is some 100%? heh |
| 01:42.44 | Strom_C | no |
| 01:42.55 | Strom_C | currently 30-40%? I think |
| 01:42.59 | Qwell | That's it? |
| 01:43.04 | Strom_C | after the bellsouth merger probably closer to 60% |
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| 01:43.38 | Strom_C | Qwest has a huge footprint, as does Verizon |
| 01:43.49 | Strom_C | and don't forget about the independents |
| 01:44.12 | ManxPower | Strom_C, those have not counted for much in recent years. |
| 01:44.34 | Strom_C | no, but there are still several sizable metro areas that have non-Bell companies |
| 01:45.13 | justinu | verizon bought up GTE, which was the largest independent LEC, after it merged with contel |
| 01:45.17 | justinu | non-bell |
| 01:45.19 | Strom_C | yes |
| 01:45.26 | Strom_C | junbug, Bell Atlantic bought GTE |
| 01:45.33 | Strom_C | the combined company was renamed Verizon |
| 01:45.36 | Strom_C | get your facts straight :) |
| 01:45.45 | Heimidal | it works! woohoo! |
| 01:45.50 | junbug | junbug: err ok... *shrug* |
| 01:45.51 | ManxPower | and MANY much smaller ones. One of my clients has an office in an indie territory . Cost to run a Frame connection from the office to corporate is twice that of comparable offices. |
| 01:46.16 | Lino` | lol |
| 01:46.22 | Strom_C | er |
| 01:46.24 | justinu | yeah |
| 01:46.25 | Strom_C | i meant justinu |
| 01:46.30 | Strom_C | stupid autocomplete :) |
| 01:46.55 | junbug | i know... :] |
| 01:47.01 | Strom_C | ok, wow, I'm supposed to be in Van Nuys in 17 minutes. I should go. |
| 01:47.30 | Qwell | Strom_C: should've left 3 hours ago :p |
| 01:47.52 | Lino` | lol |
| 01:47.52 | Qwell | You'll see why, when you open the door... |
| 01:47.54 | Strom_C | why, is there a massive accident on the ventura freeway? |
| 01:48.02 | Qwell | likely, heh |
| 01:48.03 | Lino` | snow? |
| 01:48.09 | Qwell | Lino`: in Southern CA? Not a chance |
| 01:48.13 | Lino` | lol |
| 01:48.18 | Jon335 | lol |
| 01:48.21 | Lino` | maybe some freightplane lost cocaine |
| 01:48.25 | Qwell | rain |
| 01:48.27 | Strom_C | haha |
| 01:48.31 | Lino` | :-P |
| 01:48.31 | Qwell | completely stops our freeways :P |
| 01:48.39 | Lino` | cocaine? yes! |
| 01:48.47 | Lino` | just imagine a freeway of cokeheads |
| 01:48.59 | justinu | it's not raining in the valley currently |
| 01:49.00 | Qwell | yep |
| 01:49.04 | Strom_C | Lino`, that would be Interstate 405... |
| 01:49.05 | Qwell | Lino`: seen it |
| 01:49.10 | Jon335 | It's raining here {Canada} too |
| 01:49.10 | Lino` | ;) |
| 01:49.30 | Lino` | hmmm |
| 01:49.48 | Lino` | so whats the reason for you being 3 hours late? @ Qwell ? |
| 01:49.54 | Lino` | rain? |
| 01:50.03 | Qwell | I was (mostly) joking. |
| 01:50.16 | Heimidal | how do I make it so you have to dial 9 to call out? |
| 01:50.30 | Lino` | or the big demo against bush & illegal immigration? |
| 01:50.37 | Lino` | erm |
| 01:50.55 | Lino` | not against illegal immigration, but against dubyas new anti-immigration-laws? |
| 01:51.02 | Qwell | Heimidal: add a 9 to your pattern |
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| 01:58.22 | Heimidal | doesn't seem to do what I need |
| 01:59.09 | Heimidal | exten => _91XXXXXXXXXX.,1,DIAL(IAX2/username@teliax/${EXTEN},30,tr) |
| 01:59.17 | Heimidal | that's causing an error tone |
| 01:59.33 | Heimidal | oh wait |
| 02:00.11 | Heimidal | nope, it wasn't the extra period |
| 02:00.12 | Heimidal | hmm |
| 02:02.33 | Qwell | 1) Don't put the period there. 2) Use a "proper" pattern. 3) ${EXTEN:1} |
| 02:02.59 | Heimidal | proper? |
| 02:03.10 | Lino` | yeah |
| 02:03.11 | Qwell | Is that NANPA? |
| 02:03.37 | Heimidal | so _91NXXNXXXXXX instead? |
| 02:04.57 | Heimidal | exten => _91NXXNXXXXXX,n,DIAL(IAX2/rackmount@teliax/${EXTEN:1},30,tr) |
| 02:05.04 | Heimidal | still nothing :\ |
| 02:05.23 | Qwell | "Nothing"? |
| 02:05.43 | Heimidal | fast busy |
| 02:05.50 | Qwell | check the CLI output |
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| 02:36.14 | Fedoracore6 | hai all |
| 02:37.29 | tehdely | anyone here in europe? |
| 02:38.07 | tehdely | i'm looking for an intl. number to dial |
| 02:38.09 | tehdely | and test our new PRI |
| 02:38.13 | tehdely | so far international calls have been a bit spotty |
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| 03:07.19 | junbug | any good docs on 1.2 out there.. |
| 03:09.52 | joelsolanki | Hello all |
| 03:10.12 | joelsolanki | I am using asterisk-addson with asterisk for logging cdrs in mysql database. |
| 03:11.17 | Luke-Jr | Anyone here using SellVoIP and supporting a guest IAX account? |
| 03:12.06 | joelsolanki | by default we need to create cdr table and in that some fields are there. now i want to change those field name and make the things work. like clid / src |
| 03:12.10 | joelsolanki | is this possible ? |
| 03:12.28 | joelsolanki | do i need modify any asterisk addson source and compile it again ? |
| 03:15.00 | shmaltz | joelsolanki, use the CDR function/variable |
| 03:15.19 | joelsolanki | shmaltz: where ? |
| 03:15.20 | shmaltz | joelsolanki, show functions in the CLI should help you |
| 03:15.33 | Corydon76-home | "show function CDR" |
| 03:15.48 | shmaltz | joelsolanki, in the dialplan do something like this: |
| 03:15.50 | shmaltz | Set(CDR(src)=TEST) |
| 03:16.28 | Corydon76-home | shmaltz: that won't work, src is readonly |
| 03:16.50 | Corydon76-home | The way to set src is to do: Set(CALLERID(ANI)=test) |
| 03:16.58 | shmaltz | Corydon76-home, really? I didn't know that thanks for telling me |
| 03:17.22 | joelsolanki | i dont want to change the extension.conf |
| 03:17.31 | joelsolanki | how do i do that ? |
| 03:17.32 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, there's a number of CDR variables that, for obvious reasons, are readonly |
| 03:18.01 | joelsolanki | show function cdr ? |
| 03:18.35 | Corydon76-home | Case-sensitive |
| 03:18.40 | Corydon76-home | functions are uppercase-only |
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| 03:18.45 | joelsolanki | oh ok. |
| 03:19.01 | joelsolanki | but with that i should be able to change dst = test ? |
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| 03:20.47 | Corydon76-home | Nope, dst is also readonly |
| 03:20.58 | Corydon76-home | dst is the same as EXTEN, though |
| 03:21.32 | joelsolanki | oh if i make the field dst writable in mysql then it should work ? |
| 03:22.04 | zigman | no |
| 03:22.26 | Corydon76-home | I don't think you're understanding me |
| 03:22.42 | Corydon76-home | The code prohibits changing certain CDR variables directly |
| 03:22.54 | joelsolanki | oh. |
| 03:23.25 | joelsolanki | then there is no solution ? |
| 03:23.32 | Corydon76-home | The CDR is meant to be a direct reflection of how the call progressed |
| 03:24.21 | Corydon76-home | Hence, if you don't change the way the call progressed, then no changes are going to be represented in the CDR |
| 03:24.45 | Corydon76-home | If you want a different dst, then I suggest that you use a different extension in extensions.conf |
| 03:25.11 | Corydon76-home | because THAT is what dst represents |
| 03:25.37 | joelsolanki | let me tell u the problem again. i guess i m not able to explain it properly. |
| 03:25.52 | joelsolanki | i want to change the field name means dst to user |
| 03:26.02 | joelsolanki | are u understanding it correctly |
| 03:26.13 | joelsolanki | in only mysql database. |
| 03:26.27 | zigman | you want to rename the field ? not the value ? |
| 03:26.33 | Corydon76-home | Why not create a view and point the user towards the view? |
| 03:26.44 | Corydon76-home | Then you can rename any field you like |
| 03:26.48 | joelsolanki | yes rename the field name only. |
| 03:27.13 | zigman | you need to change the source for that |
| 03:27.22 | tehdely | any europeans want to lend me their phone number for a quick test call? |
| 03:27.25 | Corydon76-home | No, he doesn't |
| 03:27.28 | tehdely | i promise i'll be brief. very brief :) |
| 03:27.37 | joelsolanki | if i rename the field dst to user ...then will asterisk-addson mysql will enter the values in user field. |
| 03:27.58 | Corydon76-home | All he needs to do is to let the CDR be inserted, same as it always has been, then create a view which renames the fields for the user querying the view |
| 03:28.13 | zigman | if you change the sql query in the source file yes |
| 03:28.22 | Corydon76-home | So the underlying table has the same names. Only the view has the alternate names |
| 03:28.46 | zigman | Corydon76-home i don't see any reasons for doing so anyway; ) |
| 03:28.54 | joelsolanki | :) |
| 03:29.00 | joelsolanki | what do i do now ? :):) |
| 03:29.12 | Corydon76-home | joelsolanki: create a view on the cdr table |
| 03:29.33 | Corydon76-home | Trust me; creating a view is by far the easiest path |
| 03:29.33 | joelsolanki | hmm ok. I will try that. |
| 03:30.12 | joelsolanki | I havent created view in past. I will try though. |
| 03:30.28 | joelsolanki | dont know how it works. but i guess for using views i need to have mysql 5.0 |
| 03:30.33 | joelsolanki | is that so ? |
| 03:30.42 | Corydon76-home | zigman: basically his user doesn't understand what "dst" means, so he wants to present a different field name to that user |
| 03:30.51 | Corydon76-home | joelsolanki: yes |
| 03:31.00 | joelsolanki | oh :( |
| 03:31.19 | zigman | Corydon76-home... in that case i would not want the user to look at the database anyway ;) |
| 03:31.28 | Corydon76-home | joelsolanki: that's why you pay Red Hat the big bucks |
| 03:31.38 | zigman | 4.1 is not enough ? |
| 03:32.02 | Corydon76-home | zigman: if your boss wants to look at the database, how can you say no, even if your boss is a bit daft? |
| 03:32.03 | joelsolanki | oh i have old mysql |
| 03:33.01 | zigman | Corydon76-home true.. but my boss (like my customers) want to have a nice view of the table anyway.. so i need to give them nive output |
| 03:33.22 | joelsolanki | :) |
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| 03:33.36 | Corydon76-home | zigman: Luckily for me, I don't have a daft boss who micromanages |
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| 03:33.56 | tehdely | oh look an australian |
| 03:34.08 | tehdely | remmo: fancy reading off a caller id string to a random american testing his PBX? |
| 03:34.13 | zigman | me neither |
| 03:34.25 | joelsolanki | Carydon76-home: is it possible that if i just rename the dst field to user field and things work out ? |
| 03:34.44 | zigman | joelsolanki NO |
| 03:34.50 | joelsolanki | :( |
| 03:34.50 | Corydon76-home | joelsolanki: why don't you do that, and get back to me about how things didn't work? |
| 03:34.54 | remmo | tehdely: sure |
| 03:35.02 | tehdely | k, pm me your # |
| 03:35.10 | tehdely | the europeans aren't biting :| |
| 03:35.22 | joelsolanki | hmm ok: I will test will be back :) thanks for help :) |
| 03:35.23 | Corydon76-home | joelsolanki: then you can try my suggestion and remark on how much less pain it was? |
| 03:35.34 | joelsolanki | hehe |
| 03:35.48 | Qwell | bah |
| 03:36.02 | Qwell | SELECT field1, field2, field3, dst as 'user' FROM cdr |
| 03:36.05 | Corydon76-home | Oh, and don't forget to use field names with spaces in them |
| 03:36.05 | Qwell | done and done |
| 03:36.21 | zigman | tehdely they are all asleep |
| 03:36.25 | zigman | its 5.36 am here |
| 03:36.26 | Qwell | If your user is that dumb, they don't need direct access to the db :p |
| 03:36.32 | zigman | what do you expect ;) |
| 03:36.51 | zigman | Qwell agreeed ;) |
| 03:37.03 | zigman | and "user" is wrong anyway |
| 03:37.05 | zigman | ;) |
| 03:37.14 | joelsolanki | i will try that too :) |
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| 03:57.21 | konfuzed | slePP, yo dude |
| 04:00.32 | Sedorox | hehe.. slepp.. always wnated no matter where he is :p |
| 04:01.30 | n0cturnal_ | /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk -U asterisk -G asterisk |
| 04:01.40 | n0cturnal_ | when running this i get the message Asterisk died with code 1. |
| 04:01.49 | n0cturnal_ | any ideas? |
| 04:02.04 | Corydon76-home | Did you prep your machine to be able to run as a nonroot user? |
| 04:02.28 | Corydon76-home | Perhaps you should run Asterisk manually and see what the error is |
| 04:02.43 | Corydon76-home | Or look in the logs in /var/log/asterisk/messages ? |
| 04:02.45 | asterboy | do a pastebin always help. |
| 04:02.58 | asterboy | NOTICE[6232]: app_dial.c:1011 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'Zap' (cause 0 - Unknown) |
| 04:02.59 | Darwin_35 | ~pastebin |
| 04:03.01 | jbot | rumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 04:03.16 | asterboy | I get this message when I try to forward a number: |
| 04:03.17 | asterboy | NOTICE[6232]: app_dial.c:1011 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'Zap' (cause 0 - Unknown) |
| 04:03.31 | asterboy | not sure what I'm missing from my config. |
| 04:03.58 | asterboy | Maybe the 'Zap' should be 'Zap/1' or something. |
| 04:04.30 | Corydon76-home | Maybe you should post your extensions.conf and zapata.conf on pastebin |
| 04:04.34 | asterboy | In the Dial( command, the t represents "timeout", right? |
| 04:04.39 | asterboy | wilco |
| 04:04.48 | Qwell | asterboy: show application dial |
| 04:04.53 | Qwell | What does it say 't' does? |
| 04:05.53 | asterboy | that helps...interesting that voip-info.org describes it differently...as a timeout. |
| 04:06.05 | Qwell | Show me where it says it's a timeout |
| 04:06.11 | asterboy | looking |
| 04:06.42 | FuriousGeorge | onyoen ever use meetme with pone speaker and something like 20 listeners? |
| 04:07.07 | FuriousGeorge | s/one/pone |
| 04:07.35 | asterboy | foudnd it, |
| 04:07.58 | asterboy | ok it seems like its a predefined extensino name I was confusing with the option. |
| 04:08.16 | n0cturnal_ | Mar 26 12:07:48 WARNING[26217] loader.c: Loading module app_pickup.so failed! |
| 04:08.27 | n0cturnal_ | uhm.. help? |
| 04:09.14 | asterboy | any difference between, 't' or 'T' in that option to transfer? |
| 04:09.41 | Corydon76-home | n0cturnal_: you're loading app_directed_pickup.so, perhaps? That application conflicts with app_pickup.so |
| 04:09.56 | Corydon76-home | asterboy: caller and callee |
| 04:10.20 | asterboy | ah yes...missed that subtle difference in show application dial...tx |
| 04:10.34 | asterboy | t=called, T=calling |
| 04:10.44 | asterboy | could be why my transfer is falling. |
| 04:10.58 | asterboy | maybe I need the T in the right place instead. |
| 04:11.11 | ambriento | asterboy, sure there is. 't' allows the callee to tranfers the call and 'T' allows the caller to tranfer |
| 04:11.18 | ambriento | yeap |
| 04:12.45 | ambriento | asterboy, are you using macros to dial? |
| 04:12.56 | asterboy | got it...there may be instances where the caller is transfering the call 'T' and the other way around when someone is called and the callee wants to transfer 't' |
| 04:13.01 | asterboy | hope I got that right. |
| 04:13.05 | asterboy | no macros. |
| 04:13.15 | ambriento | then you should |
| 04:13.16 | project_2501 | anyone here use the "automon" feature in features.conf? |
| 04:13.22 | asterboy | got to get the dial plan right before I move onto macros. |
| 04:13.24 | ambriento | I do project_2501 |
| 04:13.32 | project_2501 | is it functional? |
| 04:13.38 | Qwell | project_2501: works well |
| 04:13.39 | ambriento | project_2501, sure it is. |
| 04:13.45 | asterboy | project_2501, works for me. |
| 04:13.57 | project_2501 | hmmmm, I set it up today but I can't get any results |
| 04:14.14 | asterboy | don't forget to setup features.conf, ircc |
| 04:15.10 | FuriousGeorge | i got a school with twenty classrooms that wants their phone system to double as a one-way page() for announcements, etc. |
| 04:15.15 | project_2501 | I have this in features.conf, "automon => *1" |
| 04:15.23 | FuriousGeorge | anyone ever use meetme with more than 12 people listening and one speaker |
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| 04:15.56 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, you should realy look at a paging system |
| 04:16.02 | project_2501 | and "DYNAMIC_FEATURES => automon" in the [globals] section of my extensions.conf |
| 04:16.24 | project_2501 | should that be all I need? |
| 04:16.55 | ambriento | project_2501, "show features" shows the features you have? |
| 04:17.07 | ambriento | or, you should have :) |
| 04:17.19 | ambriento | had* |
| 04:18.22 | project_2501 | ambriento: "show features" show that "One Touch Monitor" is set as *1 |
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| 04:19.04 | project_2501 | yet, while in a conversation with someone, I'll push *1 and nothing get recorded to /var/spool/asterisk/monitor |
| 04:19.05 | FuriousGeorge | shmaltz: that is what im looking /for/, are u saying you dont think * can do it? |
| 04:19.26 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, of course asterisk *can* do it |
| 04:20.04 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, but it usualy is easier to use a paging system. What speakers you plan on using? |
| 04:20.05 | project_2501 | ambriento: isn't that what One touch monitor is used for? to record phone conversations |
| 04:20.35 | asterboy | yes |
| 04:20.51 | FuriousGeorge | shmaltz: for the classrooms the speakerphone on the snom 320 will be ok, for the yard gym etc, an amp attached to chan_dsp |
| 04:21.28 | FuriousGeorge | and i can use callfiles, cron, and one of the phones ringtones to have a "preiod bell" if they want one better than the one they got |
| 04:22.05 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, then go for it. Since with most paging systems you wont be able to have more than one or maybe 2 channels from asterisk to the paging system, which means only one speaker to *any* room/zone. wile with asterisk you could have as many as you want |
| 04:22.06 | FuriousGeorge | if the speakerphone is too weak i suppose i can always use a separate louder rj-11 speakerphone |
| 04:22.51 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, what hardware is box made out of? |
| 04:22.53 | FuriousGeorge | shmaltz: my main concern is that i want flawless ulay on all 18-20 listening channels, and i wonder about how much processor i need |
| 04:23.10 | FuriousGeorge | thats what im wondering, so far its all hypothetical |
| 04:23.14 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, if no transcoding then nothing |
| 04:23.20 | FuriousGeorge | i like snom phones for their autoanswer |
| 04:23.34 | FuriousGeorge | well it will be sip on all sides |
| 04:23.35 | Qwell | FuriousGeorge: most sip phones can do that |
| 04:23.35 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, sorry not nothing, minus the meetme strain |
| 04:23.52 | shmaltz | Qwell, not realy |
| 04:24.10 | Qwell | shmaltz: grandstream phones don't count as phones |
| 04:24.14 | shmaltz | Qwell, Linksys, Polycom, GS, Snom, but not the others |
| 04:24.20 | FuriousGeorge | Qwell: some are better supported than others from what i understand, and u get a lot of phone for not much money with the snom |
| 04:24.23 | Qwell | cisco |
| 04:24.27 | shmaltz | Qwell, I agree that gs dont' count |
| 04:24.36 | shmaltz | Qwell, cisco can't do it over the network |
| 04:24.39 | FuriousGeorge | i can get 320's for like 160 before shipping |
| 04:24.46 | Qwell | can too |
| 04:25.01 | shmaltz | Qwell, ok you mean with Telnet, that is a stupid hack |
| 04:25.36 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, that makes for a very expensive phone in a classroom |
| 04:25.52 | shmaltz | have you tired analog with ADSI, like the astra? |
| 04:26.05 | shmaltz | Qwell, how with the cisco over the net? |
| 04:26.05 | FuriousGeorge | shmaltz: tbh, no |
| 04:26.11 | FuriousGeorge | adsi and astra huh |
| 04:26.17 | shmaltz | yep |
| 04:26.18 | FuriousGeorge | ill look into that |
| 04:26.19 | Qwell | shmaltz: dunno, I use sccp :p |
| 04:26.31 | shmaltz | Qwell, ok that answers it |
| 04:26.32 | FuriousGeorge | i was thinking of avoiding analog for logistical problems with the wiring |
| 04:26.52 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, what do you mean wiring problems? |
| 04:27.01 | shmaltz | ~tbh |
| 04:27.05 | FuriousGeorge | i dont want to run 17 pairs from the saerver |
| 04:27.17 | FuriousGeorge | b/c of the layout |
| 04:27.25 | FuriousGeorge | their "cable" guy charges by the run |
| 04:27.27 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, then use a channel bank |
| 04:27.56 | FuriousGeorge | shmaltz: now i need t1 and a cb and the phones start looking cheap again |
| 04:28.07 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, you run a single run from server to channelbank for the T1 interface, then run the 17 pairs to the channel bank |
| 04:28.26 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, the phone is around $100 |
| 04:28.41 | shmaltz | the channel bank with 3 FXS cards (24 ports) arund $700 |
| 04:28.43 | FuriousGeorge | add the cost of the t1 and the cb though and it comes out to about the same |
| 04:28.55 | asterboy | project_2501, do you have the 'wW' in your dial plan? |
| 04:28.58 | shmaltz | the T1 card $600 that makes 3000 |
| 04:29.08 | shmaltz | nope it's not the same |
| 04:29.15 | asterboy | To allow the use of one touch recording by the called or calling party? |
| 04:29.43 | shmaltz | 17 * 160 for snom plus $500 for switch = $3220 |
| 04:29.48 | FuriousGeorge | do those adsi adsi phones are only 60 bucks less so multiply by 17 and thats the premium, plus the cool LEDs on the snom and the fact that they are PoE |
| 04:29.55 | FuriousGeorge | who doesnt love PoE, i know i do |
| 04:30.05 | FuriousGeorge | on my lovely asterisk trunk |
| 04:31.01 | FuriousGeorge | i dont want you to think i dont appreciate the input |
| 04:31.05 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, how did the configs for the snom go with you? |
| 04:31.26 | FuriousGeorge | phone works great and im using it remote |
| 04:31.27 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, I know that by now, I know your name is *not* douglas g........... |
| 04:31.46 | shmaltz | I have a snom on my desk, just doesn't want to work |
| 04:31.48 | FuriousGeorge | w/ nat |
| 04:31.54 | FuriousGeorge | thats odd |
| 04:32.02 | FuriousGeorge | mine was a cinch |
| 04:32.24 | FuriousGeorge | what does yours do? not register? |
| 04:32.24 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, I think the Linksys is the best phone for the price at the moment |
| 04:32.29 | FuriousGeorge | 941? |
| 04:32.40 | Qwell | cisco always wins :p |
| 04:32.44 | FuriousGeorge | that sipura phone? |
| 04:33.05 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, it makes funney noise, it actualy does register, but then the configs are a night mare |
| 04:33.17 | FuriousGeorge | what phone you got? |
| 04:33.18 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, yep 941 |
| 04:33.22 | project_2501 | asterboy: In the [globals] section of my extensions.conf I have "DYNAMIC_FEATURES=>automon", so I shouldn't need 'wW' in my dialplan |
| 04:33.46 | shmaltz | project_2501, I think you still doi need it |
| 04:33.49 | asterboy | ok, didn't know that. |
| 04:34.04 | asterboy | you should try it just to make sure. |
| 04:34.08 | project_2501 | ok |
| 04:34.13 | shmaltz | Qwell, what you think the Cisco is better than the 941? |
| 04:34.14 | asterboy | and don't do the n0b thing and forget to reload. |
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| 04:34.28 | shmaltz | ~n0b |
| 04:34.30 | Qwell | shmaltz: yes, always |
| 04:34.39 | asterboy | s/n0b/n00b/g |
| 04:34.50 | shmaltz | Qwell, how so? because of sccp? or sip? |
| 04:34.56 | Qwell | sccp |
| 04:35.40 | shmaltz | Qwell, does sccp work over nat? |
| 04:35.40 | Qwell | sccp > sip |
| 04:35.46 | Qwell | sure |
| 04:36.01 | shmaltz | Qwell, then why isnt' it used by all products out ther? |
| 04:36.10 | Splat | I have a linksys/supura spa3000 when I ring the pstn number it seems to take abotu 5 or 6 rings before the telephones start ringing.. is there some way to fix that? I'm not sure if it's in the spa3000 or asterisk |
| 04:36.12 | FuriousGeorge | Qwell: shmaltz: so what kind of hardware platform is needed to page the 17 extensions (only one speaker), all sip? you think i need one of them newfangled dual core chips? |
| 04:36.12 | Qwell | because it's proprietary |
| 04:36.16 | konfuzed | hhmmmm so any quality IAX phone sets out there |
| 04:37.10 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, dual core chips are so cheap taht you should take them anyhow, I would try for a xeon or dual core 64bit amd, but make sure you use 64 bit |
| 04:37.30 | konfuzed | AMD all the way ;) |
| 04:38.01 | FuriousGeorge | yeah, im an AMD fan myself but i notice a lot of people use xeons with * |
| 04:38.10 | konfuzed | AMD hardware errors are less prblematic than intel hardware errors |
| 04:38.10 | shmaltz | Splat, it's because of CallerID |
| 04:38.34 | shmaltz | konfuzed, what do you mena by hardware errors? |
| 04:38.54 | konfuzed | somehow there are also less hardware errors with AMD than Intel |
| 04:39.20 | konfuzed | intel64CPU shipped with like 67 hardware errors |
| 04:39.25 | Splat | shmaltz: is there a way to fix it? |
| 04:39.45 | konfuzed | for which there were no plans to fix 64 of em |
| 04:39.52 | shmaltz | Splat, play around with the configs in the spa |
| 04:39.53 | FuriousGeorge | hey adsi is pretty cool, nver really looked at it before |
| 04:39.55 | Sedorox | kik' |
| 04:39.57 | FuriousGeorge | its like smart zap |
| 04:39.58 | Sedorox | lol* |
| 04:40.08 | Splat | shifter: ok thanks |
| 04:40.09 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, exactly |
| 04:40.20 | konfuzed | those numbers from nerds at intel |
| 04:40.24 | shmaltz | and televantage decided to run only off that |
| 04:40.50 | shmaltz | konfuzed, thanks for the knowledge, but thats only for 64 bit cpus from intel, what about the xeons? |
| 04:41.20 | shmaltz | FuriousGeorge, it never realy cought up in the US, but is popular in other countries, like Canada, UK |
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| 04:41.48 | shmaltz | ok, gtg guys |
| 04:41.49 | shmaltz | cya |
| 04:41.55 | FuriousGeorge | later |
| 04:42.13 | konfuzed | well i rarely use intel (cpu anyway) or track intel news but that one was 3 to 6 weeks ago |
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| 04:43.13 | tsume | the new intel chips are nice |
| 04:43.21 | konfuzed | kind of a jaw dropper in my book %^} |
| 04:43.39 | konfuzed | the amd ones are better |
| 04:43.44 | konfuzed | ;^) |
| 04:43.47 | tsume | not really |
| 04:44.03 | tsume | the infiniband boards intel makes are nice |
| 04:44.08 | tsume | something AMD doesn't even have yet |
| 04:44.17 | konfuzed | intel's 64bit bus also has errors |
| 04:44.18 | tsume | but there are various pros and cons of each |
| 04:44.25 | tsume | just depends what you're looking for |
| 04:44.35 | Sedorox | most of the computers I have are intel... mainly becase they are hand downs.. |
| 04:44.51 | tsume | the 64 bus has nothing to do with it. infiniband is for having quicker irq time to have less changes of urq errors |
| 04:44.54 | tsume | *irq |
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| 04:45.48 | konfuzed | and the intel aproach to dual core sorta interferes with the memory swapping (from what I recall) |
| 04:46.07 | tsume | theres already a 8 core coming from intel |
| 04:46.11 | tsume | beta testers only |
| 04:46.21 | tsume | I don't see amd giving out free demos |
| 04:46.56 | konfuzed | I was misworded here - intel's 64bit bus also has errors. |
| 04:47.03 | tsume | cray uses amd, but most likely they are also custom, not a usual off shelf |
| 04:47.56 | tsume | konfuzed: amd has had their share of problems too |
| 04:48.20 | FuriousGeorge | who makes speaker usnits that interface with phones via rj-11 |
| 04:49.02 | tsume | FuriousGeorge: looking for an external unit for what phone? |
| 04:50.05 | FuriousGeorge | the phone happens to be an snom but i was hoping it was a universal type thing |
| 04:50.33 | FuriousGeorge | can i conver (say) a 3.5mm minijack to rj11 and have it work? |
| 04:50.48 | project_2501 | shmaltz: Check out my extensions.conf, note lines 3 and 16, http://pastebin.com/622725 |
| 04:51.02 | FuriousGeorge | shmaltz left |
| 04:51.11 | tsume | hmm |
| 04:51.13 | tsume | I have a snom |
| 04:51.19 | FuriousGeorge | is all analog created equal? |
| 04:51.19 | project_2501 | oh |
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| 04:51.28 | project_2501 | didn't notice |
| 04:51.29 | tsume | it really sucks and echos like hell, but I never looked at the output |
| 04:51.43 | FuriousGeorge | tsume: this would be for one way audio |
| 04:51.45 | FuriousGeorge | a paging system |
| 04:52.28 | FuriousGeorge | so far no one has told me that * doesnt do 17 listener 1 speaker meetme's well, so im going on the assumption everything is gonna be alright |
| 04:52.33 | konfuzed | i meant to refer to HyperThreading vs bah cant remember or find intels membus name |
| 04:52.53 | FuriousGeorge | hypertransport=amd |
| 04:53.05 | Qwell | hyperthreading is intel |
| 04:53.10 | project_2501 | asterboy: can you please give a quick look at my extensions.conf; http://pastebin.com/622725 |
| 04:53.16 | FuriousGeorge | hyperthreading is that intel extra logical cpu voodoo |
| 04:53.17 | konfuzed | FuriousGeorge, remember never go live to a demo with having done live testing |
| 04:53.30 | konfuzed | bahababhabahbahabahaa |
| 04:53.44 | FuriousGeorge | konfuzed: i told someone i could set up a pbx based on * that can page 17 sip phones |
| 04:53.53 | FuriousGeorge | but im not about to buy 17 sip phones to test it first |
| 04:53.55 | konfuzed | backwards fingers and brains |
| 04:54.28 | FuriousGeorge | so im relying on the vast experience of the 277 people in this room :) |
| 04:54.29 | konfuzed | but I know AMD did it better each time and delivers way more for the dollar and thats enough |
| 04:54.56 | FuriousGeorge | well 276 not counting me :) |
| 04:55.19 | FuriousGeorge | and so far its like juicing dry oranges :) :) |
| 04:55.29 | konfuzed | well shit 17 phones better work cause I told these guys not to mention voip but they did and now 40 apartment units want a replacemenet phone system |
| 04:55.45 | FuriousGeorge | konfuzed: im not worried about the number of extensions |
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| 04:56.07 | FuriousGeorge | im worried about how app_meetme will handle multipllexing the audio to 19 or 20 extensions |
| 04:56.12 | FuriousGeorge | granted its one way |
| 04:56.15 | FuriousGeorge | only one speaker |
| 04:56.25 | FuriousGeorge | but it cant pop or jitter |
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| 04:56.39 | FuriousGeorge | it has to sound like you would expect an important page to sound |
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| 04:58.39 | FuriousGeorge | Qwell: what do you think |
| 05:00.15 | Qwell | meetme can easily do 20 users |
| 05:00.30 | FuriousGeorge | its official |
| 05:00.34 | FuriousGeorge | thanks Qwell:) |
| 05:00.40 | Qwell | try it... |
| 05:00.49 | FuriousGeorge | dont have 19 snoms |
| 05:00.50 | konfuzed | well how about these 40 units all in one meet me |
| 05:00.51 | Qwell | get two calls in there, and have 18 call files |
| 05:01.04 | FuriousGeorge | the 300 will be out so it will be only 130 usd or so per extension |
| 05:01.35 | FuriousGeorge | Qwell: fair enough, learning call files (finally) will be my project starting tomorrow |
| 05:01.52 | FuriousGeorge | my understanding is its pretty simple, just drop a file in the dir |
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| 05:05.19 | FuriousGeorge | why is it headsets that interface with phones via rj-11 are easy to find but i cant find a single similar speakerphone |
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| 05:35.31 | ambriento | coppice, |
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| 05:36.00 | ambriento | special code, like one of those bits? I'm not a telephony guy tbh. |
| 05:36.50 | ambriento | and some supposed telephony guy told me that in regular pbx he does that polarity check to determine if its to collect call |
| 05:40.10 | tsume | konfuzed: you are confused, because even intel says to turn HT off on servers ;) |
| 05:49.13 | SplasPood | Does anyone know if it's possible to change the '456' admin password on the polycom phones? |
| 05:49.43 | MstlyHrmls | SplasPood: yes, but I don't remember how off the top of my head |
| 05:49.55 | MstlyHrmls | sorry :-7 |
| 05:50.01 | SplasPood | hehe ok :) |
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| 05:50.33 | type0 | hi |
| 05:50.45 | type0 | anyone awake tonight? |
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| 05:57.50 | type0 | ?? |
| 05:59.25 | coppice | ambriento: a polarity check for collect calls works in some places for ordinary analogue lines, With R2 there is no reversal |
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| 06:07.58 | project_2501 | type0:barely |
| 06:13.18 | asterboy | Is there a built in variable for the context? |
| 06:14.16 | asterboy | i.e. [HOME] and then you can use ${CONTEXT} which eq Home |
| 06:16.28 | asterboy | nvr mind. |
| 06:16.34 | asterboy | found the answer. |
| 06:16.47 | asterboy | it is as I describe using ${CONTEXT} |
| 06:16.56 | asterboy | too bad my aserisk seg faults when I use it. |
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| 06:20.49 | asterboy | ok, tried again and this time no seg fault |
| 06:20.55 | asterboy | is anyone around here? |
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| 06:25.59 | CerealVore | thank god there's no 'n' in that statement |
| 06:26.21 | Sedorox | n,n,n!!!!! |
| 06:26.22 | Sedorox | er |
| 06:26.42 | Sedorox | n,n,n(n/n/${N},n,n,n) |
| 06:26.43 | Sedorox | :p |
| 06:27.12 | type0 | anyone have an idea if asterisk will support a dialogic d/160sc-ls |
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| 07:01.46 | FuriousGeorge | anyone know how where they make handsets that are really just speakers, or speakerphones |
| 07:04.07 | coppice | why don't you just get some speakerphones? |
| 07:04.10 | FuriousGeorge | i.e. have an rj-11 interface and no buttons |
| 07:04.32 | FuriousGeorge | some extensions will occasionally be paged |
| 07:04.37 | FuriousGeorge | like what you would have in a warehouse |
| 07:04.39 | FuriousGeorge | but not always |
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| 07:09.44 | FuriousGeorge | my only concern is that it wont be loud enough |
| 07:09.49 | FuriousGeorge | for larger rooms |
| 07:10.29 | type0 | ive seen those |
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| 07:11.16 | FuriousGeorge | i know they have "horn style" speakerphones |
| 07:11.24 | FuriousGeorge | thatr work this way |
| 07:11.32 | FuriousGeorge | i cant google the right words |
| 07:11.42 | FuriousGeorge | its probably all proprietary crap anyway |
| 07:11.56 | FuriousGeorge | although i dont see how you can cripple a handset |
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| 07:15.24 | argos73 | FuriousGeorge: i use a lucent pagepal gizmo to do something like that... |
| 07:17.02 | FuriousGeorge | argos73: for logistical reasons it makes sense to use sip or adsi phones. the thing is, while they have an AUTOANSWER for true paging, my concern is that it will be too quiet to hear throughout the room |
| 07:17.14 | FuriousGeorge | these phones have rj11 ports |
| 07:17.28 | FuriousGeorge | so i wanted to use that, if necessary, for an external speaker |
| 07:17.45 | FuriousGeorge | so i need a speaker "handset" with autoanswer, not an entire other phones |
| 07:18.17 | argos73 | hmm.. not sure I've seen such a beast as a voip set..... |
| 07:18.29 | FuriousGeorge | the point is just that i notice some speakerphones are like entire phones and some are like handsets |
| 07:18.43 | FuriousGeorge | im looking for the latter and cant find any |
| 07:18.55 | FuriousGeorge | but ive seen them around |
| 07:20.44 | argos73 | FuriousGeorge: http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/dept_id_1050/model_MVP130BG.htm |
| 07:20.48 | argos73 | somethign like that? |
| 07:22.46 | FuriousGeorge | i dunno, that thing comes wioth its own "gateway" so i dont see how it will work with my phones, im trying to picture it |
| 07:24.17 | FuriousGeorge | i just read the brochure, ahhhhh |
| 07:24.19 | FuriousGeorge | :) |
| 07:24.53 | FuriousGeorge | picture a headset for a phone, but a speaker on the end |
| 07:25.04 | Qwell | handsets have speakers |
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| 07:25.06 | FuriousGeorge | instead of a headset :) |
| 07:25.18 | FuriousGeorge | it will probably need its own power source too |
| 07:25.44 | FuriousGeorge | to amplify the sound |
| 07:25.57 | argos73 | from what I gather, this rcvs paging calls over sip, then connects to an external speaker (amp) to do the audio |
| 07:26.00 | FuriousGeorge | Qwell: a real speaker |
| 07:26.07 | Qwell | handsets have real speakers |
| 07:26.15 | FuriousGeorge | Qwell: a foghorn |
| 07:26.25 | argos73 | hmm - might solve a problem at work... |
| 07:27.39 | FuriousGeorge | argos73: what a horn speaker? ive seen these things. i go to a place every other day with a 15 year old key pbx that has a foghorn that interfaces with rj11 and one of their "stations" for this exact functionality |
| 07:27.59 | FuriousGeorge | if you page any other phone it works like setsipheader(autoanswer=0) |
| 07:28.14 | FuriousGeorge | if you page that one, instead of going to a headset, it goes to a foghorn |
| 07:29.48 | argos73 | that's kinda what my pagepal does... connected between a fxo port and a paging amp.. "dial" the fxo port, the pagepal "answers", and you're paging |
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| 07:30.14 | FuriousGeorge | but an fxo is rj45 and wont interface with an existing phone |
| 07:30.22 | FuriousGeorge | the whole entrie phone vs handset thing |
| 07:30.35 | RedBaron73 | ? |
| 07:30.36 | bsdfreak | heh. |
| 07:31.36 | RedBaron73 | Hello...I have a question regarding the Dial Command. After a call hangs up, is there a way to execute another command...call a Noop(sometext) ? |
| 07:32.07 | FuriousGeorge | exten => h,1,do this after hangup in this context |
| 07:32.42 | RedBaron73 | Ok, I will try that. Thanks. I am using the freepbx dialplan, so this should be in there. |
| 07:32.42 | FuriousGeorge | and i think exten => H,1,do this after second hangup |
| 07:32.57 | RedBaron73 | difference between h and H ? |
| 07:33.02 | FuriousGeorge | i think |
| 07:33.06 | FuriousGeorge | i could be wrong |
| 07:33.13 | Qwell | I don't know that H exists |
| 07:33.18 | FuriousGeorge | maybe im confusing it with timeout and absolute timeout |
| 07:33.26 | FuriousGeorge | go with Qwell |
| 07:33.30 | RedBaron73 | Ok, will try a test now. Thanks |
| 07:35.13 | asterboy | How do you guys deal with voicemail that won't hang up on silence? |
| 07:35.25 | Qwell | asterboy: set a silence threshold |
| 07:35.45 | asterboy | With BackgroundDetect? |
| 07:36.07 | Qwell | no, in voicemail.conf, there is a silence threshold option |
| 07:36.12 | asterboy | ah |
| 07:36.17 | Qwell | maxsilence |
| 07:36.27 | Qwell | when it hits that, it'll hangup |
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| 07:39.47 | RedBaron73 | ok, replaced all of the h,1,hangup with h,1,NoOp(Hello World) and then h,2,hangup. No luck, it does not output the text when I hangup the phone |
| 07:41.17 | RedBaron73 | I get a message in the FULL log that app_dial.c exited with DIALSTATUS=ANSWER |
| 07:41.36 | RedBaron73 | then the macros exit with 0, not calling the next priority |
| 07:41.48 | RedBaron73 | my dial is priority 14, and pri15 is a NoOp |
| 07:41.49 | Qwell | h only happens when a certain side hangs up |
| 07:41.59 | Qwell | which side, I don't recall. The callee I think |
| 07:42.35 | RedBaron73 | for the Internal Extension, originating the call, is there an equiv? |
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| 07:46.04 | asterboy | Qwell, figured out why my voicemail won't hang up. Seems when I reject a call sets busy, the line gets a fast beep, so there is no silence. |
| 07:47.20 | Dovid | aaterboy: what is ur problem ? |
| 07:47.34 | RedBaron73 | there may be another way to solve the problem I am going after. I have a barge command that executes via a webpage. I want to terminate the barge when the call ends. I have a script to do this, just can find a place to execute this script. Any ideas? |
| 07:47.43 | asterboy | When I reject a call it goes to voicemail and records for infinity. |
| 07:47.56 | asterboy | The recording is of a fast beeping. |
| 07:47.58 | Dovid | even after the user hangs up ? |
| 07:48.39 | asterboy | well I call and hangup and then hit reject to stop the line from ringing. |
| 07:48.40 | Dovid | whats ur dial plan ? |
| 07:48.58 | asterboy | exten => s,4,Dial(SIP/Home&SIP/Home2,15,tT) |
| 07:49.38 | Dovid | nno |
| 07:49.47 | Dovid | the whole config for exten s |
| 07:49.52 | Dovid | paste in pastebin.com |
| 07:50.19 | Dovid | brb |
| 07:50.19 | asterboy | ok , hold on.. |
| 07:50.29 | asterboy | just want to clean it up. |
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| 07:51.09 | RedBaron73 | docs don't mention h being one side only, but it appears to be the case |
| 07:52.10 | n0cturnal_ | Mar 26 15:47:12 VERBOSE[10791] logger.c: [format_mp3.so]Mar 26 15:47:12 WARNING[10791] loader.c: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/format_mp3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 07:52.15 | n0cturnal_ | Mar 26 15:47:12 WARNING[10791] loader.c: Loading module format_mp3.so failed! |
| 07:52.17 | n0cturnal_ | help? |
| 07:53.56 | Dovid | hmm |
| 07:54.04 | Dovid | seems that it cant load that module |
| 07:54.09 | Dovid | was this a fresh install ? |
| 08:00.49 | Dovid | ? |
| 08:01.06 | Dovid | l |
| 08:03.02 | RedBaron73 | I have tried hanging up on the other side as well, the h extension never seems to execute. Any reasons/ideas? |
| 08:03.57 | Dovid | whats ur prob. ? that it wont load the module ? |
| 08:07.14 | Qwell | n0cturnal_: Do you have asterisk-addons installed? |
| 08:07.19 | asterboy | David, http://pastebin.ca/47006 |
| 08:07.56 | asterboy | Qwell, you might be able to tell me why my transfers and conferences don't work with that extensions.conf listed in the above pastebin. |
| 08:09.09 | Dovid | asterboy: laptop acting up, dosent wana load page. will try again |
| 08:09.47 | asterboy | ok, no prob...I'm surrounded by laptops/desktops. |
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| 08:11.17 | Dovid | laptop going crazy |
| 08:11.19 | Dovid | gona go for a rebbot |
| 08:17.37 | asterboy | for echocancel, what do values of taps do to the call? |
| 08:17.49 | asterboy | i.e. 16,32,64,128,256 |
| 08:18.15 | Qwell | more taps = more echo can length..or something |
| 08:18.58 | asterboy | so in theory I should be able to play with that to try to cancel some of my echo. |
| 08:19.09 | asterboy | beyond just the default of yes. |
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| 08:19.44 | CrashHD | anyone have any good resoures for help with zaptel and the 2.6 kernel? |
| 08:19.50 | CrashHD | I can't seem to get the damn thing to compile |
| 08:20.06 | Qwell | CrashHD: got the kernel headers and/or source installed? |
| 08:20.07 | asterboy | pastebin your output. |
| 08:20.27 | CrashHD | Qwell: I installed the kernel-devel rpms...my assumption is that is the source |
| 08:20.40 | Qwell | don't think so |
| 08:20.44 | CrashHD | I have a /usr/src/kernels/2.6 dir |
| 08:20.46 | asterboy | agrees |
| 08:20.48 | CrashHD | and make menu config works ok |
| 08:20.55 | CrashHD | hmm suggestion for 2.6 source? |
| 08:21.01 | Qwell | oh |
| 08:21.43 | asterboy | just download the source from kernel.org |
| 08:22.24 | asterboy | link it into /usr/src |
| 08:22.39 | asterboy | the compile output should have clues. |
| 08:22.55 | CrashHD | rpm has made me lazy |
| 08:23.07 | asterboy | never use it |
| 08:23.15 | asterboy | LFS all the way. |
| 08:23.21 | CrashHD | LFS? |
| 08:23.25 | asterboy | ~lfs |
| 08:23.27 | jbot | it has been said that lfs is linuxfromscratch or linuxfromscratch.org |
| 08:23.33 | CrashHD | ahh |
| 08:23.43 | CrashHD | when you are building systems for testing purpose |
| 08:23.48 | CrashHD | no point in spending the extra time |
| 08:24.03 | CrashHD | just to junk them and put the parts back on the shelf |
| 08:24.20 | asterboy | you can use the automated script to install, called alfs. |
| 08:24.40 | asterboy | then I just dd my drives. |
| 08:24.51 | CrashHD | each to his own I say |
| 08:25.22 | CrashHD | I'm running the 2.6.9-34...would 2.6.9 kernel source do just fine? |
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| 08:25.30 | CrashHD | or is the -34 specific to a kernel? |
| 08:25.59 | asterboy | it would be better to have the specific source. |
| 08:26.30 | asterboy | kernel.org should have any your looking for. |
| 08:26.45 | CrashHD | I don't see a -34 |
| 08:26.49 | CrashHD | only the 2.6.9 |
| 08:27.31 | asterboy | hmm...that's strange, I thought they had all |
| 08:27.42 | Qwell | the -34 is distro specific patches |
| 08:27.47 | Qwell | get the kernel source from your kernel |
| 08:27.53 | Qwell | ...from your distro |
| 08:28.00 | CrashHD | using centos |
| 08:28.42 | CrashHD | any ideas on getting the source for centos 4.3 qwell? |
| 08:28.51 | CrashHD | I didn't see any other rpms for it |
| 08:28.54 | CrashHD | like in the 2.4 days |
| 08:28.58 | CrashHD | no kernel-source* |
| 08:29.03 | CrashHD | only the kernel-devel |
| 08:29.18 | asterboy | Getting this message: WARNING[12195]: channel.c:784 channel_find_locked: Avoided initial deadlock for '0x81e0b90', 10 retries! |
| 08:29.29 | asterboy | doesn't seem to do anything. |
| 08:29.31 | X-Rob | Did someone mention centos? |
| 08:29.33 | X-Rob | ~centosbug |
| 08:29.35 | jbot | i guess centosbug is a problem with the latest Centos 4.2 kernel. To fix it, edit the file /usr/src/kernels/2.6.9-34.EL-i686/include/linux/spinlock.h and change 'rw_lock_t' on line 407 to 'rwlock_t'. Make sure you're NOT using gcc4, as that doesn't work either. |
| 08:29.35 | asterboy | Any ideas? |
| 08:30.05 | CrashHD | Thanks rob |
| 08:30.29 | CrashHD | this would have driven me nuts |
| 08:30.51 | X-Rob | jbot, no, centosbug is a problem with the latest Centos kernel (4.2 and 4.3). To fix it, edit the file /usr/src/kernels/2.6.9-34.EL-i686/include/linux/spinlock.h and change 'rw_lock_t' on line 407 to 'rwlock_t'. This is part of the 'kernel-devel' package. |
| 08:30.52 | jbot | okay, X-Rob |
| 08:30.58 | X-Rob | ~centosbug |
| 08:30.59 | jbot | from memory, centosbug is a problem with the latest Centos kernel (4.2 and 4.3). To fix it, edit the file /usr/src/kernels/2.6.9-34.EL-i686/include/linux/spinlock.h and change 'rw_lock_t' on line 407 to 'rwlock_t'. This is part of the 'kernel-devel' package. |
| 08:31.30 | CrashHD | heh |
| 08:31.41 | X-Rob | (That's better) |
| 08:31.42 | CrashHD | and the problem persists through 4.3 |
| 08:31.47 | Qwell | X-Rob: awesome |
| 08:31.47 | CrashHD | bastages |
| 08:31.48 | X-Rob | same kernel |
| 08:31.53 | CrashHD | ya same kernel |
| 08:31.58 | CrashHD | I just noticed that |
| 08:32.10 | CrashHD | and there we go |
| 08:32.13 | CrashHD | like a champ |
| 08:33.43 | CrashHD | ~centosbug |
| 08:33.44 | jbot | it has been said that centosbug is a problem with the latest Centos kernel (4.2 and 4.3). To fix it, edit the file /usr/src/kernels/2.6.9-34.EL-i686/include/linux/spinlock.h and change 'rw_lock_t' on line 407 to 'rwlock_t'. This is part of the 'kernel-devel' package. |
| 08:33.47 | CrashHD | ok good |
| 08:33.56 | CrashHD | works for us normal people too |
| 08:34.15 | CrashHD | otherwise that was going in my need to remember shit folder |
| 08:36.53 | Splat | I had a need to remember shit folder.. I forgot to back it up though.. |
| 08:37.03 | CrashHD | lol |
| 08:37.04 | CrashHD | been there |
| 08:37.09 | CrashHD | forget it |
| 08:37.12 | CrashHD | move on |
| 08:37.15 | CrashHD | never that important |
| 08:38.28 | Splat | yeah |
| 08:41.38 | CrashHD | can anyone give me some info on multiline phones through asterisk? |
| 08:41.47 | CrashHD | I'm trying to emulate a standard key system |
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| 08:42.08 | CrashHD | maybe a sample exten context? or something |
| 08:42.14 | CrashHD | or even explain how it technically works? |
| 08:46.14 | asterboy | http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf |
| 08:46.16 | asterboy | ~docs |
| 08:46.18 | jbot | rumour has it, docs is probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 08:46.24 | asterboy | start readin |
| 08:46.29 | CrashHD | lol |
| 08:46.31 | CrashHD | read and read |
| 08:46.46 | CrashHD | just a point in the right direction is all I need |
| 08:46.48 | asterboy | it goes quick |
| 08:47.03 | asterboy | that is the point in the right direction. |
| 08:47.21 | asterboy | The handbook has a great example of multiline. |
| 08:47.35 | asterboy | Just comb the table of contents and boom your there. |
| 08:49.17 | asterboy | page 32 has the ring extensions in sequence example. |
| 08:49.23 | asterboy | night all |
| 08:49.32 | asterboy | guess Dovid lost his way. |
| 08:49.33 | CrashHD | so a 2 line phone is actually 2 devices... |
| 08:49.41 | CrashHD | interesting |
| 08:49.42 | CrashHD | goodnight |
| 08:50.01 | asterboy | yes 2 line phone is 2 extensions |
| 08:50.18 | CrashHD | well |
| 08:50.23 | CrashHD | I meant 2 lines on a voip phone |
| 08:50.32 | CrashHD | the voip phones with multi line keys |
| 08:50.38 | CrashHD | not analog devices |
| 08:50.50 | asterboy | they can be whatever you want them to be. |
| 08:51.00 | asterboy | lines, extensions, speed dials. |
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| 08:51.10 | CrashHD | yes but how do you determine that? |
| 08:51.12 | CrashHD | on the phone? |
| 08:51.14 | CrashHD | at the *? |
| 08:51.26 | asterboy | extensions.conf |
| 08:51.28 | asterboy | at * |
| 08:51.47 | asterboy | depends on phone to. |
| 08:51.51 | asterboy | I have Polycoms |
| 08:51.53 | CrashHD | I'll have to search around for more info |
| 08:51.58 | asterboy | so they are very versatile. |
| 08:52.04 | CrashHD | I appreciate the help |
| 08:52.09 | asterboy | no prob. |
| 08:52.13 | asterboy | see ya around. |
| 08:55.23 | Strom_C | da-ha! |
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| 09:36.48 | ambriento | ~seen coppice |
| 09:36.53 | jbot | coppice <n=chatzill@3.143.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 2h 32m 46s ago, saying: 'why don't you just get some speakerphones?'. |
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| 09:43.41 | WiredX | hey everyone |
| 09:44.23 | WiredX | i have a slight problem, ive setup Asterisk@Home and everything goes well, ive created a call group, extensions but as soon as i create and apply a SIP Trunk i lose my internet connection and have to remove the asterisk box from the network and reboot my router.. any ideas as to why it is doing that? .. very strange |
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| 10:01.29 | Tornad | 'lo |
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| 10:25.33 | [Airwolf] | I have the problem that I can't hear a gsm file that I created and put in the extention using the backgroup application. |
| 10:25.50 | [Airwolf] | But for the connection I'm using the g729 codec and it's a gsm file |
| 10:25.58 | [Airwolf] | Can this be the cause of the problem ? |
| 10:26.10 | [Airwolf] | If so, then how can I creat g729 files ? |
| 10:26.47 | Strom_C | [Airwolf], create your files as 16-bit 8khz wav files and let asterisk do the appropriate transcoding |
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| 10:29.59 | [Airwolf] | Strom_C, so I can just create a "standard" wav file and put it in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds and use it in my background application, without doing any encoding myself ? |
| 10:30.22 | Strom_C | yes |
| 10:30.23 | Strom_C | see if that works |
| 10:30.25 | Strom_C | i'll brb |
| 10:31.19 | [Airwolf] | ok, one moment |
| 10:32.09 | Lino` | huh |
| 10:32.43 | Lino` | strom still awake? *lol what a question* |
| 10:32.53 | Lino` | it must be night by now in southern ca |
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| 10:33.59 | Strom_M | back :) |
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| 10:34.23 | [Airwolf] | Strom_M, that did'nt work. Even with my sip client I don't hear anything. |
| 10:34.24 | [Airwolf] | http://pastebin.com/622945 |
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| 10:34.47 | [Airwolf] | It's just a standard menu, and the file rights are ok. |
| 10:35.23 | Strom_M | is asterisk running as "asterisk"? |
| 10:36.48 | [Airwolf] | It is, I just updates the pastebin |
| 10:38.05 | Strom_M | it's not even executing the background command |
| 10:38.10 | Strom_M | lets try this |
| 10:38.19 | Strom_M | just do exten => s,1,Answer |
| 10:38.30 | Strom_M | exten => s,2,Background(file) |
| 10:38.34 | Strom_M | see what happens |
| 10:40.27 | [Airwolf] | ok, one moment |
| 10:41.14 | tzafrir | [Airwolf], can you update it? didn't it create a new one? |
| 10:41.54 | Strom_M | tzafrir, there's a "see updates from..." linkbar |
| 10:41.59 | [Airwolf] | http://pastebin.com/622952 |
| 10:42.04 | [Airwolf] | It did made a new one |
| 10:42.20 | [Airwolf] | Sorry, I don't work much with pastebin, I thought the url would remain the same |
| 10:43.04 | [Airwolf] | Mar 26 13:42:15 WARNING[22699]: file.c:433 ast_filehelper: Unable to open file on /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/nedsecure2.wav |
| 10:43.04 | [Airwolf] | Mar 26 13:42:15 WARNING[22699]: file.c:821 ast_streamfile: Unable to open nedsecure2 (format alaw): No such file or directory |
| 10:43.04 | [Airwolf] | Mar 26 13:42:15 WARNING[22699]: pbx.c:5757 pbx_builtin_background: ast_streamfile failed on SIP/attilla-384a for nedsecure2 |
| 10:43.05 | [Airwolf] | hmm |
| 10:43.18 | [Airwolf] | Mar 26 13:42:15 WARNING[22699]: format_wav.c:169 check_header: Unexpected freqency 22050 |
| 10:44.09 | Strom_M | no no no no no |
| 10:44.12 | Strom_M | you didnt listen to me |
| 10:44.18 | Strom_M | 8 khz 16-bit PCM |
| 10:44.29 | Strom_M | no alaw, no ulaw |
| 10:44.42 | Strom_M | PCM, 8khz, 16-bit |
| 10:44.56 | [Airwolf] | Ah, ok. I don't know much about audio. I have to check how to record that way then. |
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| 10:45.49 | [Airwolf] | But if I use my gsm file it works now. But that probably won't improve the quality |
| 10:51.32 | [Airwolf] | Strom_C, thanks it works now. |
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| 10:54.10 | [Airwolf] | The only problem I have left is when I call with my SIP provider that it takes 20 seconds before i actually hear the recording after Asterisk receives the call. |
| 10:54.45 | Strom_M | well, watch the console and see what takes so long |
| 10:55.15 | jeffgus | would anyone here have access to adit 600 documentation? |
| 10:56.33 | jeffgus | i need to know if the adit 600 fxs boards |
| 10:56.49 | jeffgus | support various MWI |
| 10:56.54 | jeffgus | like fsk and voltage |
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| 11:11.45 | [Airwolf] | Strom_M, can you take a look at this: http://pastebin.com/622981 |
| 11:12.16 | [Airwolf] | If I put in the timeout, then I don't even hear the recording. |
| 11:12.32 | [Airwolf] | If I disable it, like here, It take 20s before I hear it. |
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| 11:13.43 | Strom_M | [Airwolf], does the box only start playing the recording after 20 seconds? |
| 11:13.51 | Strom_M | what happens on the console? |
| 11:14.41 | [Airwolf] | Strom_C, I pasted the piece what happens at the console. |
| 11:15.01 | Strom_M | [Airwolf], I can't deduce timing from text |
| 11:15.12 | Strom_M | I need you to LOOK AT THE CONSOLE while you are dialing the call |
| 11:15.15 | Strom_M | and tell me what happens |
| 11:15.41 | [Airwolf] | Yes of course, stupid me. The time from line 1 until line 14 takes 20 seconds |
| 11:16.12 | Strom_M | sigh |
| 11:16.13 | Strom_M | no |
| 11:16.20 | Strom_M | where does it get hung up? |
| 11:16.37 | Strom_M | is the audio file not playing on line 4? |
| 11:17.29 | [Airwolf] | it doesn't get hung up, this is the log from one call. And the audio file on line 4 isn't playing, or at least I don't hear it. |
| 11:17.48 | [Airwolf] | If I however call directly with my sip phone, there is no problem. |
| 11:18.17 | Strom_M | by "hung up" i mean "on which step between 1 and 14 does the console show that asterisk is slowing down"? |
| 11:19.49 | [Airwolf] | on line 5 and line 9 |
| 11:20.12 | Strom_M | ok, how about this |
| 11:20.21 | Strom_M | for the time being, forget the responsetimeout nonsense |
| 11:20.48 | [Airwolf] | Ok, Ill change it to play directly and after that dial my own sip number |
| 11:21.10 | Strom_M | which version of asterisk are you using |
| 11:22.07 | [Airwolf] | 1.2.4 |
| 11:22.14 | Strom_M | ok |
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| 11:24.49 | [Airwolf] | Strom_M, I changed the extention see http://pastebin.com/622991 and did a test call. |
| 11:25.16 | [Airwolf] | I don't hear the recording but after 5 secs or so it gets forwarded to my sip phone |
| 11:25.49 | [Airwolf] | But, I'm going to change my sip provider from g729 to gsm and see what happens then |
| 11:26.06 | Strom_M | oh for fuck's sake, just use ulaw |
| 11:26.09 | Strom_M | or alaw |
| 11:27.34 | [Airwolf] | Strom_C, I just did. No change |
| 11:28.04 | Strom_M | is your asterisk box behind nat? |
| 11:28.35 | [Airwolf] | Nope |
| 11:29.07 | Strom_M | does this also fail with a different inbound provider? |
| 11:30.11 | [Airwolf] | I'm have to add one to test that. |
| 11:30.14 | [Airwolf] | One moment |
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| 11:32.02 | [Airwolf] | Same problem with another inbound provider |
| 11:32.17 | [Airwolf] | But they are both kinda low-budget providers |
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| 12:02.29 | phatmonkey | is there any way to interrupt the voicemail if I don't get to the phone in time? |
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| 12:19.15 | X-Rob | phatmonkey, nope. |
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| 13:35.19 | Frogzoo | !fr |
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| 14:52.31 | n0cturnal_ | has anyone had any experience with the Linksys PAP2 ATA ? I'm trying to dial a "*77", and it just completely ignores it, seems to be blocking it in the ATA.. maybe as a system command or something |
| 14:53.09 | SkramX | anyone here from gNumber? |
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| 14:57.00 | frenzy | hi all |
| 14:57.47 | frenzy | is ilbc to g729 transcoding more cpu intensive than ilbc to ulaw? |
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| 15:07.48 | Toerkeium | hello guys, I am starting doing some researchs. What I want to do is, when someone puts their phone number in a text field in my web site, I will to comunicate them automatically with my phone, through VOIP > PSTN > VOIP, is this possible? |
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| 15:14.02 | SkramX | Oh i wrote a similar script a while back :) |
| 15:14.15 | SkramX | why to pstn then back to voip? |
| 15:14.38 | mmlj4 | more challenge means more l33t, you ought to know that ;-) |
| 15:14.51 | Toerkeium | SkramX, not sure, I am just thinking about it. Lets say you have a pstn line, then how would I call you from my PBX voip box ? |
| 15:14.56 | SkramX | if you want your phone to call them, Asterisk => [VOIP Termination/PSTN] => their (presumably) PSTN # |
| 15:15.12 | SkramX | via VOIP-termination. |
| 15:15.16 | Toerkeium | ohhh |
| 15:15.32 | Toerkeium | VoIP-termination to a pstn network? |
| 15:15.40 | SkramX | yes'sir ;) |
| 15:15.44 | Toerkeium | great |
| 15:15.45 | SkramX | mmlj4: what are you talking about? |
| 15:17.42 | Toerkeium | SkramX, how is called that kind of service? I mean, the voip termination? so I can look for it in some local internet providers |
| 15:17.58 | SkramX | well, if they offer SIP, then yes |
| 15:18.06 | SkramX | you can also go to voip-info.org |
| 15:18.12 | SkramX | if you want me to help you step by step, pm me. |
| 15:18.36 | mmlj4 | just kidding, SkramX... more conversions means a harder project, thus making one look more l33t in front of one's peers |
| 15:18.39 | Toerkeium | SkramX, I don't intent to bother you like that:))) |
| 15:18.46 | SkramX | ooooh, i see. |
| 15:18.58 | SkramX | Toerkeium: well, we do consulting like this a lot, if you want the help. |
| 15:19.05 | mmlj4 | by the way, have you heard any news about alabama lug fest this year? |
| 15:19.19 | Toerkeium | thank you very much for clarify this SkramX, I will do some research, and I will keep in this channel, that's for sure :)) |
| 15:19.29 | SkramX | :) alright, Sir. |
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| 15:25.58 | Toerkeium | btw, what a excellent product asterisk is |
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| 15:27.10 | SkramX | Indeed! |
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| 15:30.51 | Darwin_35 | top the morning |
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| 15:36.34 | fjean | hello guys, how are you. |
| 15:37.04 | fjean | I have this problem with callerid, maybe you can help |
| 15:37.30 | Darwin_35 | whats the issue |
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| 15:38.03 | fjean | in 1.0.9 i was receiving "COMPANY LTD <3534>" as the caller id, now with 1.2.5 I just get the latest part which is "3534" |
| 15:38.55 | fjean | i thought it was because my users were in mysql now and I had callerid column to NULL for all users, but still I jsut remved the column and it continues the same way.. |
| 15:39.23 | fjean | i did not change any .conf.. |
| 15:39.34 | fjean | any thoughts or hints ? |
| 15:40.14 | Darwin_35 | hmm timeto check the bug reports not heard this one |
| 15:40.27 | fjean | ok.. |
| 15:41.47 | fjean | one thing, I just did sip reload, after the structure change, I did not restart, so they still might have their subscription with null column id, not sure |
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| 15:46.47 | fjean | darwin_35: it's at digium, right, let me search to see |
| 15:47.12 | Darwin_35 | bugs.digium.com |
| 15:51.59 | fjean | mm, I did put "callerid" and clicked apply filter, but nothing really similar.. |
| 15:52.31 | fjean | maybe this guy here: http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=6450 |
| 15:53.39 | fjean | what you think ? |
| 15:55.57 | SkramX | Mar 26 09:55:43 WARNING[23608]: rtp.c:1017 ast_rtp_settos: Unable to set TOS to 184 ??? |
| 15:56.47 | fjean | skramx - you have tos=184 somewhere in sip or iax.conf ? |
| 15:56.52 | SkramX | ill ook |
| 15:56.55 | SkramX | what should it bee? |
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| 16:01.27 | SkramX | Mar 26 10:01:08 WARNING[29032]: rtp.c:1017 ast_rtp_settos: Unable to set TOS to 184 |
| 16:01.41 | SkramX | i keep getting that, fjean, i tried setting it to 184 in sscp.conf, AND not setting it. |
| 16:02.30 | SplasPood | anyone here have any experience setting up hylafax? |
| 16:02.55 | fjean | skramx: try to put tos=18 |
| 16:03.10 | nextime | SplasPood: iaxmodem.sf.net |
| 16:03.10 | fjean | tos is two digits only |
| 16:03.35 | SkramX | 18? |
| 16:03.36 | SkramX | oh okay |
| 16:03.38 | SkramX | lemme try. |
| 16:03.54 | SplasPood | nextime: Exactly. However I have an issue thats not covered there... |
| 16:03.56 | SkramX | rtptos = 18 ? |
| 16:04.21 | SkramX | fjean: i still get: Mar 26 10:04:10 WARNING[29032]: rtp.c:1017 ast_rtp_settos: Unable to set TOS to 184 |
| 16:04.25 | nextime | SplasPood : what kind of issue? |
| 16:04.32 | SkramX | weird |
| 16:04.37 | fjean | skamrx- you reloaded ? |
| 16:04.42 | SkramX | yes |
| 16:04.52 | SkramX | okay i see it is setting it somewhere else now. |
| 16:04.52 | fjean | you have it somewhere else ? |
| 16:05.11 | SkramX | one moment |
| 16:05.42 | SkramX | works now. |
| 16:05.44 | SplasPood | nextime: Well basically, I have hylafax+iaxmodem setup, its workin great... I wanna redo the faxrcvd script so I can dispatch the inbound faxes to various email addresses depending on which DID the call came in on.. Supposedly the config.ttyIAX defines some variables that'll contain that info, but they don't seem to get passed to faxrcvd |
| 16:07.08 | nextime | SplasPood : you must setup more concurrent iaxmodem daemon, one for any different DID, and use multiple modem on hylafax, like /dev/ttyIAX0 /dev/ttyIAX1 and so on |
| 16:07.55 | SkramX | one last error i am having:::: Mar 26 10:07:24 NOTICE[2101]: channel.c:2421 __ast_request_and_dial: Don't know what to do with control frame 15 |
| 16:07.59 | SplasPood | nextime: I know I could do that, however iaxmodem.sf.net leads one to believe the CID info gets passed... |
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| 16:08.27 | SplasPood | nextime: setting up a single device (or multiple) per DID is somewhat wasteful |
| 16:08.29 | SkramX | its not an error, buit.. |
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| 16:09.02 | SplasPood | nextime: like this: |
| 16:09.03 | SplasPood | CallIDPattern: "NMBR="CallIDPattern: "NAME="CallIDPattern: "ANID="CallIDPattern: "NDID="# Uncomment these if you really want them, but you probably don't.#CallIDPattern: "DATE="#CallIDPattern: "TIME=" |
| 16:09.22 | SplasPood | NDID should have what I want... |
| 16:12.30 | nextime | SplasPood : uhmm i think that those are for outgoing calls, but i'm not sure, try to ask on the iaxmodem list |
| 16:14.44 | Mourning | Can anyone help with a problem I am having with a Sipura 3000. The PSTN line can be dialed out and in on, so that works. I can dial out fron the Line1 port from an analog phone. I cannot call the Line1 port though, it gives the error at the * CLI of "SIP/100-12cb is circuit-busy" whenever you try to ring that extension. Has anyone seen or fixed this problem before? |
| 16:14.45 | SplasPood | nextime: Oh didn't see an iaxmodem list, i'll try there |
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| 16:21.01 | fjean | anybody has 1.2.5 with callerid appearing in their CDRs ? |
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| 16:24.54 | Mourning | Anyone with any experience at all with Sipura 3000's? |
| 16:26.21 | Splat | Mourning: I have one.. though I only got it like 3 days ago now.. heh |
| 16:26.40 | Mourning | Splat: configured it yet? |
| 16:27.38 | Splat | yeah.. though I'm rebuilding my asterisk@home box again.. heh finally got the partitioning the way I want it.. heh |
| 16:28.46 | Splat | I used the config generator that's at http://voxilla.com/spa3kasterisk.php |
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| 16:33.10 | Zenlogix | Morning evryone, im having trouble passing outbound calls on a SIP channel, inbound works just fine. Would there be a generous soul that could give me a hand? I am out of idea now |
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| 16:33.27 | Mourning | Splat: yea I used that generator too. did it work for you? |
| 16:34.17 | Splat | yep |
| 16:38.10 | Zenlogix | well forget it, i got it all figure out! :-) my fault. I had fromdomain commented out in my config... |
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| 16:47.04 | Mourning | splat: you can get the analog phone connected to the Sipura 3000's Line1 FXS port to ring? |
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| 16:50.03 | harlequin516 | OKay I am having some difficulty understanding some very basic concepts with respect to Asterisk. |
| 16:50.46 | harlequin516 | What is the difference between a channel and an extension? |
| 16:51.22 | Darwin_35 | channel is what handles the call |
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| 16:51.39 | cert | hello everyone |
| 16:51.47 | Darwin_35 | exten is the they way you setup the call and direct it |
| 16:52.15 | cert | I would like some opinions, I decided to setup my own asterisks box I am new to asterisks... I wanted to know I if should start with asterisks@home/centos or asterisks/ubuntu to start... what is a easier learning experience? |
| 16:52.36 | Darwin_35 | asterisk and freebsd |
| 16:52.50 | harlequin516 | I am attempting to use AGI to write a script to initiate a call, but I need to specify a channel in the originate action. The problem is I want to dial out using a channel only later in the script. |
| 16:53.14 | cert | itried freebsd for some reason I like ubuntu better |
| 16:53.33 | cert | Darwin_35 why freebsd? |
| 16:53.58 | Darwin_35 | you can install from the ports and its ready to go |
| 16:54.12 | harlequin516 | cert: I think asterisk setup is a breeze with any system, its more a matter of having the setup instruction handy... (website access to voip) |
| 16:54.25 | harlequin516 | voip-info.org |
| 16:54.42 | Darwin_35 | it pulls down everything you need and compiles it for your system and 99.9 % of the time it works and is very stable |
| 16:55.25 | Darwin_35 | plus I have been using fbsd so long its my life |
| 16:57.03 | cert | hmm both good points |
| 16:57.36 | ManxPower | except for the fact that the version in ports is always way out of date. |
| 16:58.21 | harlequin516 | My script is intended to programmatically (using agi) allow someone to telnet to my machine then send a SIP message to a SIP channel later. So I understand that SIP channel side of the connection, except what is the other side of the connection... ? |
| 16:58.30 | cert | stability is more important than upto date |
| 17:00.50 | ManxPower | harlequin516, AGI is the wrong tool for that. |
| 17:01.30 | ManxPower | AGIs must run as part of a call to Asterisk. AMI (asterisk manager interface) is for controlling Asterisk outside of a call |
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| 17:01.40 | Splat | Mourning: sorry, yeah I can.. I just wasn't looking at the computer |
| 17:01.55 | frenzy | Any opensource SIP Web Phones available compliant with *? |
| 17:02.15 | ManxPower | What exactly is a SIP Web Phone? |
| 17:02.17 | harlequin516 | ManxPower: I'm using the java-asterisk api. It is using AMI to originate my call. |
| 17:02.35 | ManxPower | harlequin516, so you are not using AGI at all. |
| 17:02.43 | harlequin516 | frenzy: I used kphone succesfully. But its KDE. |
| 17:03.54 | harlequin516 | ManxPower: I'm using AMI to originate the call, and AGI to handle the communcations between my telnet server sessions and the asterisk calls. |
| 17:04.31 | Luke-Jr | Anyone here using SellVoIP and supporting a guest IAX account? |
| 17:04.46 | *** join/#asterisk Pegger (n=peg@pool-68-163-141-213.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 17:05.39 | frenzy | any other SIP 'web' phones in the market |
| 17:06.13 | Luke-Jr | wtf is a 'web' phone? |
| 17:06.17 | Assid | err.. anyone got sip discount to work correctly with asterisk |
| 17:06.28 | Assid | mine keeps timing out in like 4 seconds into the call |
| 17:06.28 | frenzy | a Web Dialer |
| 17:06.36 | Darwin_35 | kphone |
| 17:06.50 | Darwin_35 | web based hmmm |
| 17:06.52 | Assid | im connecting via a linksys pap2 |
| 17:06.54 | frenzy | does it work on Windows |
| 17:07.05 | ManxPower | frenzy, kphone is not a "web phone" |
| 17:07.10 | cert | what is the difference between asterisk@home vs asterisk? |
| 17:07.17 | frenzy | I thought.. |
| 17:07.25 | ManxPower | cert, asterisk@home is not supported on this channel. |
| 17:07.43 | ManxPower | asterisk at home is a gui for tech sissies to get their feet wet with Asterisk |
| 17:07.51 | harlequin516 | Yeah I don't know of a SIP phone for the web, I thiink I have looked extensively for such a beast. |
| 17:07.55 | Darwin_35 | asterisk@home uses amp wich uses to many files |
| 17:08.10 | Darwin_35 | its a pain in the ass to use by real asterisk users |
| 17:08.10 | harlequin516 | A java Applet SIP phone would be great though. |
| 17:08.18 | ManxPower | frenzy, the term you are looking for is "click to talk" |
| 17:08.36 | frenzy | Is there any out there? |
| 17:08.58 | ManxPower | frenzy, I have no idea. I find the entire concept stupid and only useful for it's "coolness factor". |
| 17:09.39 | Mourning | Splat: what firmware version is your Sipura 3000? |
| 17:09.40 | frenzy | everything in this world is stupid if you dont know its use |
| 17:09.42 | frenzy | even O2 |
| 17:09.43 | frenzy | :P |
| 17:09.59 | cert | ManxPower to start learning i heard asterisk@home is better |
| 17:10.01 | harlequin516 | Look what I found.... https://jain-sip-applet-phone.dev.java.net/ |
| 17:10.07 | ManxPower | Oh look! You can click on a web page to talk to me! Well, as long as you have a decent soundcard, headphones, and microphone, oh and as long as your internet connection does suck and your sound hardware doesn't suck, and as long as it works with your browser." |
| 17:10.21 | ManxPower | It's easier to just pick up a real phone and call. |
| 17:10.30 | cert | lol |
| 17:10.48 | frenzy | the future of telephoney is in the code |
| 17:10.52 | frenzy | not in the hardware |
| 17:10.53 | ManxPower | cert, Asterisk@Home is like learning to program in BASIC. It ruins you for life. |
| 17:10.53 | frenzy | :P |
| 17:11.28 | cert | i'm a newb |
| 17:11.33 | Assid | err.. anyone here using pap2 ? |
| 17:11.39 | Luke-Jr | yes |
| 17:11.54 | ManxPower | Assid, not many. Most of us skipped the PAP2 and went with the SUPura. |
| 17:12.05 | Assid | well.. everytime i get it to register a few minutes later.. no more dialtone |
| 17:12.18 | *** join/#asterisk stoffell (n=stoffell@d5153FC7E.access.telenet.be) |
| 17:12.22 | Assid | i reduced the register time.. to even 60 seconds.. but still doesnt fix |
| 17:12.32 | Darwin_35 | we sell them |
| 17:12.44 | Assid | i have the same device connecting to sip discount, the problem doesnt happen there |
| 17:12.54 | Splat | Mourning: 3.1.7(GWc) I think.. heh if htat's the firmware.. heh |
| 17:13.05 | Assid | eh? |
| 17:13.09 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: last I checked, the Sipura is the PAP2, but more expensive |
| 17:13.15 | ManxPower | Assid, and asterisk of course has only 1 interface, and is not behind NAT |
| 17:13.46 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr, How much IS the cost difference between the PAP2-NA and the SPA-2000 |
| 17:13.58 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: not sure, but I haven't seen the latter for $50 |
| 17:14.00 | *** join/#asterisk file (n=joshnet@mctnnbsa24w-142167032200.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net) |
| 17:14.02 | Assid | ManxPower: my asterisk box is on a dedicated server with global ip and everything |
| 17:14.03 | ManxPower | (not the PAP2, that one is locked) |
| 17:14.04 | Pegger | anyone trited S100-FX v2.0 http://www.x100p.com/products_2.htm |
| 17:14.10 | Assid | im using : Firmware Version: 3.1.3(LS) |
| 17:14.25 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: PAP2 is the generic model; PAP2-VD or something is the locked version |
| 17:15.12 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr, then that has changed recently because the PAP2 was supposed to only be sold to service providers and the PAP2-NA (more expesnive) was supposed to be sold to the genral public. |
| 17:15.47 | Luke-Jr | "PAP2" is not a model number anymore |
| 17:15.57 | ManxPower | per the technology licensing agreement between Cisco/Linksys and SUPura. |
| 17:16.13 | Luke-Jr | anyway, I got my PAP2-NA for $50 |
| 17:16.18 | Luke-Jr | find a Sipura for that much |
| 17:16.32 | ManxPower | Cisco/Linksys didn't to a good job of enforcing it, so SUPura sued, hen Cisco/Linksys bought SIPura and of course the lawsuit went away |
| 17:16.51 | Assid | ManxPower: anyways, it doesnt connect properly.. i mean it registers.. and i can make calls and stuff.. but if i leave it be.. it just dies off |
| 17:16.54 | Assid | and i gotta restart the pap2 |
| 17:17.10 | Luke-Jr | Assid: yes, the PAP2 isn't stable enough |
| 17:17.23 | Assid | Luke-Jr: same thing works fine if i register it with sipdiscount |
| 17:17.30 | Luke-Jr | oh |
| 17:17.54 | Luke-Jr | well, lately mine started randomly transmitting static for audio |
| 17:17.57 | Luke-Jr | until I restart it |
| 17:18.11 | Luke-Jr | this being a new one I got under warranty when my original simply died |
| 17:18.28 | ManxPower | This http://store.voxilla.com/customer/product.php?productid=16168&cat=264&page=1 and this http://store.voxilla.com/customer/product.php?productid=16191&cat=264&page=1 |
| 17:18.41 | ManxPower | Voxzilla sells the SPA-2000 and the PAP2-NA for the same price. |
| 17:19.40 | Luke-Jr | still over $50 |
| 17:19.44 | Assid | well |
| 17:19.51 | Assid | this is the only thing available here |
| 17:20.55 | Darwin_35 | I have yet to see a ata for under 65 |
| 17:21.04 | Luke-Jr | Planning for when I need/get more analog phone ports, I'm hoping the WRTP54G is usable |
| 17:21.13 | Assid | whats the latest firmware for the linksys pap2? |
| 17:21.14 | Luke-Jr | Darwin_35: like I said, I got mine for $50 |
| 17:21.54 | Assid | now it always says offline when it registers |
| 17:22.19 | harlequin516 | S100-FX looks neat... Would be nice if they had an sdk for it. |
| 17:22.23 | Luke-Jr | though interestingly, the place I bought it from has increased the cost |
| 17:22.31 | ManxPower | Sorry, I' |
| 17:22.37 | Luke-Jr | I wonder if Sipura/Linksys is guilty of price fixing |
| 17:22.57 | ManxPower | Sorry, I'll keep using my Cisco 1750 as a router, not some a Linksys NAT/Router/VoIP/whatever box. |
| 17:23.06 | Assid | Luke-Jr: whats the platest firmware for this? |
| 17:23.17 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: I have never heard much good from Cisco-brand routers |
| 17:23.22 | Luke-Jr | Assid: for what? |
| 17:23.38 | Assid | for the linksys pap2 |
| 17:23.43 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: apparently they can't even handle autonegotiation yet |
| 17:23.47 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr, *shrug* I manage around 15 cisco routers, no real problems with them |
| 17:23.47 | Luke-Jr | Assid: no clue |
| 17:24.01 | harlequin516 | Luke-Jr: I am sure that Cisco branded is better than Linksys branded.... |
| 17:24.07 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: my WRT54G works nice |
| 17:24.17 | Luke-Jr | harlequin516: only if you use Cisco/Linksys firmware |
| 17:24.28 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr, I have one of those too, I only use it as an AP, not as a router. |
| 17:24.57 | harlequin516 | I have a Linksys wireless B router... I have to reboot it every other week. |
| 17:25.06 | ManxPower | I'm looking at networking a campground, pricing out used Cisco gear for it. |
| 17:25.14 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: does your Cisco router get your network connected via IPv6? |
| 17:25.28 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr, Why would I want that? |
| 17:25.33 | Sedorox | ipv6! |
| 17:25.34 | Luke-Jr | ... |
| 17:25.52 | Luke-Jr | my WRT54G has my network connected via IPv6 *without* ISP supporting it :) |
| 17:25.57 | harlequin516 | I think it would be neat if neighborhoods made litle point ot point Wireless networks and shared IP connections. |
| 17:26.12 | ManxPower | Sounds like a lot of extra work. |
| 17:26.18 | Sedorox | naaaa |
| 17:26.26 | Sedorox | radvd |
| 17:26.27 | Luke-Jr | harlequin516: there's a project for that I think, but I don't like it cuz it requires using WPA or such |
| 17:26.37 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: radvd & a shell script |
| 17:26.41 | ManxPower | The 2600's we use at my clients support IPv6, but we don't use it. |
| 17:26.58 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr, what does it do for you? |
| 17:27.06 | ManxPower | What benefit do you get from running IPv6? |
| 17:27.10 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: lack of NAT |
| 17:27.20 | Luke-Jr | every computer gets a public IP |
| 17:27.20 | *** join/#asterisk MGSsancho (n=user@adsl-67-127-164-145.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 17:27.34 | ManxPower | Luke-Jr, It's going to NAT when it hits the v4 network. |
| 17:27.44 | ManxPower | and I think that would be a DRAWBACK, not an advantage. |
| 17:27.55 | Sedorox | gets you on certain things that are v6 only (rare tho) gets you quicker access to things over in euro (if they have it) |
| 17:27.59 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: NAT is evil |
| 17:28.03 | Sedorox | and no |
| 17:28.06 | Sedorox | ipv6 doesn't NAT |
| 17:28.16 | Sedorox | unless you specifically set it to do so.. which is RARE |
| 17:28.21 | Sedorox | if done at all |
| 17:28.27 | ManxPower | So how do you get from a V6 network to a v4 network if there's no NAT? |
| 17:28.29 | harlequin516 | But how do you get IPv6? |
| 17:28.38 | Sedorox | you get a tunnel from a tunnel broker |
| 17:28.44 | Sedorox | think of the tunnel broker as a ipv6 ISP :p |
| 17:28.49 | Sedorox | to simplify it |
| 17:28.51 | harlequin516 | I have to pay for each IP I get. |
| 17:28.55 | Sedorox | no on v6 |
| 17:28.56 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: you don't |
| 17:29.02 | Luke-Jr | ManxPower: you use IPv4 for IPv4 |
| 17:29.04 | Sedorox | you normally get a block of /64 to yourself... |
| 17:29.21 | ManxPower | I still don't see the benefit here. |
| 17:29.34 | Luke-Jr | harlequin516: IPv6 makes it impractical for ISPs to charge per address |
| 17:29.56 | Luke-Jr | harlequin516: the address is made up of a network part and a host part |
| 17:30.01 | Sedorox | ManxPower: there is added security with ipsec built into the protocol |
| 17:30.09 | Luke-Jr | the host part is based off your MAC address and remains regardless of what network you're on |
| 17:30.16 | ManxPower | my clients don't have to pay for IP addresses, but they do have to do a justification form. |
| 17:30.18 | Luke-Jr | the ISP delegates the network part |
| 17:30.26 | Sedorox | Luke-Jr: unless you use windows.. they like to randomize it :p |
| 17:30.37 | Luke-Jr | Sedorox: well, there's optional privacy extentions |
| 17:30.42 | Sedorox | yea |
| 17:30.49 | harlequin516 | So the ISP's can't just reduce the nework part down to the last bit like they do now? |
| 17:30.52 | ManxPower | I still don't see the benefit except for when you are talking to ipv6 hosts. |
| 17:31.06 | Luke-Jr | harlequin516: they can, but that's still a /64 or similar |
| 17:31.15 | Sedorox | but there are many things on v6.. and more joining each day |
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| 17:31.19 | Sedorox | a lot of edu stuff... |
| 17:31.22 | Sedorox | internet2 for example |
| 17:31.24 | Luke-Jr | harlequin516: they can only limit the network part |
| 17:31.40 | Sedorox | stuff in africa they are making it so when work is to be done its only over v6... |
| 17:31.57 | harlequin516 | hmm |
| 17:32.00 | ManxPower | Sedorox, I can connect to EDU sites using v6! Oh, god that's so cool! |
| 17:32.05 | Luke-Jr | harlequin516: the address is 128 bits, 64 bits for the network, 64 for the host |
| 17:32.08 | ManxPower | I can die a happy man now. |
| 17:32.08 | Sedorox | lol |
| 17:32.58 | harlequin516 | They can prolly still require you register your hosts, and filter only for the hosts you pay... (Evil corportatist bastards they are) |
| 17:33.00 | ManxPower | I'm double natted at the moment anyway. |
| 17:33.40 | Luke-Jr | harlequin516: in theory, but they have no justification to do so |
| 17:33.57 | Sedorox | http://www.remarc.co.uk/remarcnews/aug04/ipv.aspx |
| 17:34.05 | Sedorox | ^--- ipv6 advantages |
| 17:34.09 | Luke-Jr | harlequin516: heck, they don't filter with IPv4-- you can statically assign such an address to yourself and use it |
| 17:34.35 | Sedorox | Luke-Jr: not comcast |
| 17:34.38 | Luke-Jr | harlequin516: you only need to pay them to 'legitimately' use more than 1 address, and via DHCP |
| 17:34.39 | harlequin516 | Luke-Jr: but it wont route back to you right? |
| 17:34.39 | Sedorox | I've tried.. doesn't work :p |
| 17:34.47 | Luke-Jr | harlequin516: it will if it's in the right range |
| 17:35.17 | Sedorox | there are some isps that, that doesn't work with |
| 17:35.18 | harlequin516 | I have DSL, with a 255/255/255/252 mask |
| 17:35.30 | Luke-Jr | harlequin516: I'm talking Cable, sorry |
| 17:35.31 | Sedorox | p2p address... your SOL |
| 17:35.37 | Luke-Jr | ... but not Comcast, apparently ... |
| 17:35.40 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 17:35.43 | Sedorox | yea.. I've tried |
| 17:35.44 | Sedorox | many times |
| 17:35.50 | Luke-Jr | actually, that stuff is often regional |
| 17:35.51 | Sedorox | won't work.... |
| 17:35.59 | Luke-Jr | so Comcast one spot will be different from another |
| 17:36.06 | Sedorox | Southeastern Pennsylvania |
| 17:36.40 | Luke-Jr | Sedorox: if you were desperate, you could get a TCNiSO modem and set Max CPE to 32... but that'd cost $100 =p |
| 17:36.49 | Sedorox | lol |
| 17:36.53 | harlequin516 | Okay SO I think I can now use a loopback channel to do what I am thinking... |
| 17:37.10 | Sedorox | well like my IP changed.. was still in the range of the old one... added the old one back.. wouldn't work |
| 17:37.31 | Luke-Jr | Sedorox: if it changed, it's semi-likely the old one was in use-- did you ping it first? |
| 17:37.40 | Sedorox | yup.. and no response |
| 17:37.44 | Luke-Jr | hrm |
| 17:37.57 | Sedorox | the only reason I didn't get it back is the old dhcp server went down.. so it broadcasted..a nd got a new dhcp server... |
| 17:38.10 | Luke-Jr | ! |
| 17:38.24 | Luke-Jr | maybe related |
| 17:38.28 | harlequin516 | I want my agi script to open a socket to CLI client (waiting on port) and only then dial out to the callee. |
| 17:38.36 | Luke-Jr | *sure* they were in the same range? |
| 17:38.43 | Sedorox | comcast is slowly migrating into 73.x.x.x addresses... |
| 17:38.48 | Sedorox | Luke-Jr: yup.. looked it up |
| 17:39.03 | Sedorox | and also.. when I had the old IP.. I tried within the range to add others.. and it just wouldn't work... |
| 17:39.12 | Luke-Jr | hrm |
| 17:39.17 | Sedorox | it was like... 255.255.252.0 |
| 17:39.20 | Sedorox | so.. big range :p |
| 17:39.27 | Sedorox | to try that is |
| 17:39.38 | Luke-Jr | hmm, potentially it might only work on a TCNiSO modem |
| 17:39.53 | Luke-Jr | maybe regular ones don't forward ARP packets |
| 17:40.11 | Sedorox | got a SB5100 |
| 17:40.15 | Luke-Jr | with Sigma-X? |
| 17:40.22 | Sedorox | dunno |
| 17:40.27 | Luke-Jr | prolly not |
| 17:40.48 | Luke-Jr | someone needs to create a SB5100 firmware that is open source ... |
| 17:40.53 | Sedorox | lol |
| 17:44.32 | Darwin_35 | anyone have a page with all the new context for * ? |
| 17:45.08 | Darwin_35 | trying to fix a dial plan |
| 17:45.11 | ManxPower | Darwin_35, new context? |
| 17:45.21 | Darwin_35 | and some of the context is outdated |
| 17:45.38 | ManxPower | who are you and what have you done with our Darwin_35? |
| 17:46.15 | Darwin_35 | darwin is falling behind due to work not allowing me to keep updated |
| 17:46.32 | Darwin_35 | Manx its me |
| 17:48.14 | ManxPower | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/24/tuttle_centos/ |
| 17:52.28 | Mourning | Splat: I just spoke with Sipure/linksys/cisco tech support. figured out what the problem was. I had the proxy set as 192.168.1.4:5060 the :5060 port specification fucks it up. After removing that it works fine... Ugg... |
| 17:52.57 | Splat | ahh |
| 17:53.05 | ManxPower | why would you ever specify the port? |
| 17:53.13 | Darwin_35 | Manx is the house ready ? |
| 17:53.14 | Splat | the port is set in a different feild |
| 17:53.21 | ManxPower | Darwin_35, House? |
| 17:53.29 | Darwin_35 | Cabin |
| 17:53.34 | Mourning | Splat: I was beating my head against the wall with that for weeks ... grr |
| 17:53.42 | ManxPower | Splat, actually the SOURCE port is in a different field. |
| 17:54.01 | ManxPower | Darwin_35, need to get the significant other moved to Tuscaloosa first |
| 17:54.29 | Darwin_35 | ahh ok |
| 17:55.01 | Mourning | Cheers all, I'm off to get this bitch implemented |
| 17:55.12 | ManxPower | Do to a mixup with deposit slips my bookkeeper deposited my entire months income into an old bank account that has been closed for 2 months. The bank accepted the deposit and even cleared the checks. Still working on getting the whole mess fixed. |
| 17:55.16 | *** part/#asterisk fjean (n=fjean@201009208229.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 17:56.00 | Darwin_35 | ahh ok |
| 17:56.06 | Darwin_35 | sorry to hear that |
| 17:56.23 | ManxPower | Darwin_35, I'm working on making the BANK sorry. |
| 17:56.57 | ManxPower | There are only 2 explainations I can think of. 1) gross incompetence or 2) fraud. |
| 17:57.07 | Darwin_35 | yeah I agree |
| 17:58.07 | Darwin_35 | make they pay you back 3times as much for stress and loss of wages for that month |
| 17:58.48 | ManxPower | Darwin_35, and the extra interest I'll have to pay on the credit cards because of late payment and when a payment is late the credit card companies jack up your interest rates. |
| 17:59.16 | Darwin_35 | thats true |
| 17:59.37 | ManxPower | in any case, I have to wait for them to return the check, credit my client's acounts back and then I can get it fixed. |
| 18:01.49 | ManxPower | I am, however, working on floorplan sketches for the cabin |
| 18:02.09 | Darwin_35 | with a small room for me the net admin |
| 18:02.14 | Darwin_35 | lol |
| 18:02.15 | ManxPower | LOL! |
| 18:02.30 | Darwin_35 | corner in the basement |
| 18:02.32 | ManxPower | cabins are a max of sometthing like 14ft x 38ft |
| 18:03.17 | ManxPower | no basements either. |
| 18:03.57 | ManxPower | since, in order to be exempt from various building codes, they have to be movable and be no larger than a specific size. |
| 18:04.43 | Darwin_35 | ahh |
| 18:04.55 | Darwin_35 | never heard of a movable cabin |
| 18:05.18 | Darwin_35 | but hay this is amrica |
| 18:05.48 | Darwin_35 | man this wind storm is bad |
| 18:06.07 | Darwin_35 | 2 tree fallen in the street |
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| 18:17.23 | Strom_M | good morning |
| 18:18.27 | Darwin_35 | brb |
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| 18:21.57 | wiseguy_ | hellow, i got error qozap: version magic '2.6.8-2 SMP preempt PENTIUM4 gcc-3.3' should be '2.6.8-2-686 preempt 686 gcc-3.3' ? |
| 18:22.03 | wiseguy_ | when inserting qozap module |
| 18:22.22 | Skid | hmm, i've setup CDR (mysql).. hwoever I dont see it being used ( the msql module.. the use count = 0), and nothing is being insrted into the dB |
| 18:22.26 | Skid | any ideas? |
| 18:23.03 | Dr-Linux | hey Skid |
| 18:23.06 | Skid | lo |
| 18:23.26 | Dr-Linux | do |
| 18:23.44 | wiseguy_ | Skid: module loaded? |
| 18:24.31 | Skid | yeah |
| 18:24.35 | Skid | the use count = 0, though |
| 18:24.43 | Skid | cdr_addon_mysql.so MySQL CDR Backend 0 |
| 18:24.51 | Skid | restated asteirks too |
| 18:24.53 | Skid | asterisk even |
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| 18:26.00 | Luke-Jr | ARGH! I hate it when a problem goes away the moment i stick ethereal on it |
| 18:26.11 | ropeguru | Always the way it happens |
| 18:26.25 | Skid | the database info all works fine too |
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| 18:44.17 | ropeguru | shmaltz: You have time to explain the MPC issue we emailed about?? |
| 18:45.17 | shmaltz | ropeguru, refresh my mind |
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| 18:45.45 | ropeguru | The last outage with their inverter.. |
| 18:45.54 | shmaltz | oh, priv please |
| 18:45.58 | ropeguru | yes |
| 18:46.02 | wiseguy_ | anyone with quadBRI card? |
| 18:46.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | lots of europeans! |
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| 18:51.29 | asterboy | Call forward is a function of the pots line, no? |
| 18:51.44 | asterboy | Can * act like a forward service? |
| 18:52.01 | asterboy | I think the term is "switching" |
| 18:53.10 | RoyK | asterisk can send SIP REINVITEs, but not proxy |
| 18:53.15 | asterboy | so basically if I don't have a forwarding service from my telco provider...I can in theory, take a call that comes in on a ZAP device and route it to another ZAP device, no? |
| 18:53.23 | Qwell | sure |
| 18:53.33 | stoffell | wiseguy_, what u want to know? |
| 18:54.04 | asterboy | BUT, the down side is that I need 2 pots lines. |
| 18:54.20 | asterboy | instead of 1 with a forward service uilt in. |
| 18:54.35 | asterboy | s/uilt/built/g |
| 18:55.23 | asterboy | Qwell, is that correct? |
| 18:55.30 | Qwell | sure |
| 18:56.35 | asterboy | Now in a rotary setup, can you forward more than 1 number? |
| 18:56.53 | asterboy | say for example, rotary line 1 forwards to point A |
| 18:57.05 | asterboy | rotary line 2 forwards to point B...and so on. |
| 18:57.11 | Qwell | sure |
| 18:57.24 | asterboy | ok good, thought so. |
| 18:57.40 | asterboy | but the rotary is a function of the telco provier. |
| 18:58.18 | asterboy | so it may depend on whatever limitations they have. |
| 18:59.04 | asterboy | I can see how * acts like a rotary in a SIP setup...but with Pots lines, things get a bit different to make * act like a rotary. |
| 18:59.32 | asterboy | or can it be done? |
| 18:59.55 | Qwell | You've just asked the same question 4 times |
| 18:59.57 | ManxPower | group= in zapata.condf |
| 18:59.59 | asterboy | because you need to be able to switch off the main phone line to free it up for the next call. |
| 19:00.14 | asterboy | can't see how that is done without the telco providing the switching. |
| 19:00.36 | ManxPower | unless you mean INCOMING rotary, rather than OUTGOING rotary |
| 19:00.50 | ManxPower | INCOMING is of course up to the phone company. |
| 19:00.53 | Strom_M | jesus...people should really be required to take a course in basic telephony before touching asterisk |
| 19:01.23 | ManxPower | Strom_C, Naw, I think they should be required to read the entire book of tarrifs for their ILEC |
| 19:01.39 | Strom_M | oooh |
| 19:01.42 | Strom_M | even better |
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| 19:01.56 | shmaltz | is IAX trunking supported with realtime? |
| 19:02.28 | troyb1 | ManxPower what's wrong with copper pair traffifs ;) |
| 19:03.21 | ManxPower | At one time I read all the dry pair tarrifx |
| 19:04.02 | troyb1 | im surprised your LEC lets you still buy those :P |
| 19:04.16 | ManxPower | troyb1, this was almost 10 years ago |
| 19:04.24 | Qwell | troyb1: That's the point of tarrifs :p |
| 19:05.08 | troyb1 | ManxPower ahh well im sure your LEC sleeps better at night knowing the pairs are delivered through their switch :) |
| 19:05.33 | ManxPower | troyb1, the company went bankrupt about 6 months after I quit. |
| 19:05.47 | troyb1 | the LEC or ILEC? |
| 19:05.50 | ManxPower | Well, me and the only other tech person quitting on the same day. |
| 19:05.58 | ManxPower | the ISP I was working for at the time. |
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| 19:06.08 | troyb1 | yeah thats not uncommon, selling DSL? |
| 19:06.29 | ManxPower | troyb1, we were selling *DSL services over dry pairs. |
| 19:06.39 | ManxPower | this was before the ILEC offered ADSL service. |
| 19:06.49 | troyb1 | you mean the LEC ? |
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| 19:07.14 | ManxPower | Incumbent Local Exchange Carrier. |
| 19:07.16 | troyb1 | the ILEC would of been you? |
| 19:07.17 | wiseguy_ | stoffell: NT mode? |
| 19:07.21 | ManxPower | not Competitive Local Exchange Carrier. |
| 19:07.31 | troyb1 | right.. but wasn't your company an ILEC? |
| 19:07.31 | Strom_M | ManxPower, like I said - telephony. |
| 19:07.39 | ManxPower | No, the ILEC would be BellSouth. |
| 19:07.47 | ManxPower | my company was an ISP. |
| 19:07.48 | troyb1 | ohhh :( |
| 19:07.58 | stoffell | wiseguy_, what about it?! |
| 19:07.58 | troyb1 | my fault.. sorry. |
| 19:08.12 | troyb1 | DSL is a very cut throat business, almost impossible to make money unless you have a lot of volume. |
| 19:08.25 | ManxPower | We ordered the lines by referencing the USOC so they really didn't have much choice but to sell us the service. |
| 19:08.35 | troyb1 | haha yeah. |
| 19:08.50 | troyb1 | did they demarc you one pair at a time? |
| 19:08.55 | ManxPower | troyb1, today most DSL is run thru the ILEC's DSLAMs and then backhauled to the actual ISP using an ATM PVC |
| 19:09.02 | troyb1 | yup exactly. |
| 19:09.08 | ManxPower | we did not do that, we ordered dry paris and did everything ourselves. |
| 19:09.11 | troyb1 | but you said dry pairs :) |
| 19:09.17 | troyb1 | yup exactly what i thought. |
| 19:09.35 | ManxPower | granted, our office was 1/2 block from the CO and we only sold service to clients connected to that CO. |
| 19:09.43 | troyb1 | so you had your own 100 Pair trunk and they simply cross connected you from the distribution frame at the CO |
| 19:10.06 | ManxPower | I think we had 50 pair coming into the building. |
| 19:10.19 | troyb1 | im surprised your company survived with 25 customers :) |
| 19:10.26 | ManxPower | a couple of pairs for analog, a couple of pairs for T-1 and the rest for DSL |
| 19:10.33 | troyb1 | yup |
| 19:10.47 | ManxPower | troyb1, we also did dialup and ISDN and had a few buildings we brought a T-1 into. |
| 19:11.14 | troyb1 | ISDN was a pretty big money maker :) |
| 19:11.25 | troyb1 | T1's have only become cheap in the last few years. |
| 19:11.40 | ManxPower | DSL was more so for us since we only had to pay $35/month for a dry pair. |
| 19:11.51 | troyb1 | yikes! |
| 19:11.53 | Sponge_bob | what is garp on the cisco ip phone? |
| 19:12.13 | troyb1 | ManxPower well atleast that forced you to charge what i would consider reasonable prices for a service. |
| 19:13.02 | ManxPower | troyb1, back then nobody cared about internet service and didn't care aboue firewalls or security. |
| 19:13.21 | wiseguy_ | hellow anyone, i'm getting error Unknow signalling type 'bri_net'? what can it be? |
| 19:13.39 | troyb1 | yeah well now everyone is buying up IDS and firewall gear :) |
| 19:13.49 | ManxPower | wiseguy_, it means you are trying to use BRI without having the BRI stuff installed when you built zaptel and Asterisk |
| 19:14.40 | Strom_M | ManxPower, how is BRI support in asterisk now? Can one reliably do BRI directly into the box in north america now? |
| 19:15.00 | Strom_M | last I researched, it was a kludge to get BRI working |
| 19:15.20 | ManxPower | Strom_C, no, as I said "bri stuff" |
| 19:15.29 | MikeJ__ | the hard part is actually getting a bri in north america :P |
| 19:15.38 | ManxPower | and I don't think anything supports North America BRI |
| 19:15.43 | stoffell | too bad BRI is not in *, and you need bristuff :( |
| 19:15.50 | troyb1 | ManxPower Bell Canada demarced me 8 pairs even though im using rougly ~3 of them. |
| 19:16.12 | asterboy | Is there a forwarding service that hunts a group of numbers? |
| 19:16.21 | ManxPower | I ordered 2 phones lines and bell bought in a 25 pair cable. |
| 19:16.30 | troyb1 | :O into a house? |
| 19:16.31 | Strom_M | troyb1, that makes sense; they assume you may order more pairs in the future, so it makes sense to just bring in more cable. |
| 19:16.33 | asterboy | so if one is busy it moves onto the next |
| 19:16.36 | ManxPower | asterboy, yes. it's called a hunt group. now shut up. |
| 19:16.55 | ManxPower | troyb1, into a campground. |
| 19:17.02 | asterboy | yes yes I know the hunt group within * |
| 19:17.11 | asterboy | I'm talking from the telco. |
| 19:17.17 | ManxPower | asterboy, no, the telco service called "hunt group" |
| 19:17.19 | troyb1 | ManxPower okay thats a bit more reasonable then.. there is no way in hell they want to run another cable in there. |
| 19:17.27 | Strom_M | asterboy, it's called a hunt group when you order from the telco as well |
| 19:17.29 | troyb1 | Strom_C well they assumed wrong :> |
| 19:17.32 | ManxPower | the telco may call it "rotary" but they are the same thing. |
| 19:17.38 | asterboy | ah, ok...thanks! |
| 19:17.45 | ManxPower | troyb1, not to the top of the mountian where the campground is. |
| 19:17.52 | troyb1 | heh |
| 19:18.05 | ManxPower | they don't know that I plan on getting a voice/data T-1 and sell POTS service to the people at the campground (the seasonals) |
| 19:18.21 | ManxPower | so in a few months there will be FEWER pairs used than right now. |
| 19:18.42 | Strom_M | asterboy, don't make me hit you over the head with "Bellcore Notes on the Networks" |
| 19:19.12 | Strom_M | :) |
| 19:19.20 | asterboy | hmmm. that sounds like I could use that hit. |
| 19:19.22 | troyb1 | ManxPower yeah sucks to be them.. 25 pair shielded cable isnt cheap. |
| 19:19.35 | ManxPower | What, not the Stromberg Notes on Voice Networks? |
| 19:19.45 | Strom_M | ManxPower, that's coming soon |
| 19:19.47 | asterboy | and that too |
| 19:19.48 | MikeJ__ | extra pairs are allways good |
| 19:20.07 | Strom_M | but SR-2275 is just as good for the time being :) |
| 19:20.19 | troyb1 | ManxPower would you be able to tell me roughly what a split voice / data T1 costs? |
| 19:20.27 | ManxPower | troyb1, there are only 2 ways to get broadband here, consumer satellite, commercial VSAT or T-1 |
| 19:20.33 | Sponge_bob | can i get a pri line that only have 2 or 3 lines? |
| 19:20.40 | ManxPower | troyb1, it varies massivly depending on the carrier. |
| 19:20.45 | Strom_M | Sponge_bob, why the hell would you want to? |
| 19:20.49 | troyb1 | ManxPower but roughly :) |
| 19:20.55 | shmaltz | anybody here played around with the switch statement? |
| 19:20.57 | ManxPower | at one of my clients, the CLEC will just GIVE them 256k data on a voice t-1 |
| 19:20.57 | Sponge_bob | to pass caller id |
| 19:21.00 | troyb1 | commercial VSAT :o echelon will target your ass ;) |
| 19:21.13 | troyb1 | thats unusual.. |
| 19:21.33 | Sponge_bob | is a pri basically a t1? |
| 19:21.38 | ManxPower | I think the quotes I saw were about $600/month |
| 19:21.51 | Strom_M | Sponge_bob, if the telco is provisioning a whole PRI out to your premises, it's generally not cheaper to only turn up half the b-channels |
| 19:21.55 | Strom_M | Sponge_bob, yes |
| 19:21.56 | ManxPower | Sponge_bob, pri is T-1 with special signaling to get all the cool features. |
| 19:22.11 | Corydon76-home | PRI can be on top of a T1, but it also can be on top of other media |
| 19:22.12 | troyb1 | ManxPower for 600 you can get a full PRI? |
| 19:22.15 | Sponge_bob | gotcha |
| 19:22.27 | Sponge_bob | so do they charge flat rate? |
| 19:22.33 | ManxPower | troyb1, partial PRI w/ data on the rest of the channels |
| 19:22.36 | Strom_M | Sponge_bob, depends on the carrier |
| 19:22.48 | asterboy | hey this looks good: http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=4RC6q4mFWbYC&oi=fnd&pg=PR6&sig=ItsTMJVykJnrwD2hC44VkqA8Pwc&dq=%22Keagy%22+%22Integrating+Voice+and+Data+Networks%22+&prev=http://scholar.google.com/scholar%3Fq%3Dauthor:%2522Keagy%2522%2Bintitle:%2522Integrating%2BVoice%2Band%2BData%2BNetworks%2522%2B%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D |
| 19:22.52 | ManxPower | i don't recall exactly, it was a while ago I got the quote |
| 19:23.12 | troyb1 | ManxPower *understood* |
| 19:23.18 | troyb1 | VSAT is typically high latency? |
| 19:23.29 | ManxPower | no CLECs service my area. |
| 19:23.36 | Strom_M | troyb1, duh. you're going into SPACE. |
| 19:23.40 | Sponge_bob | ManxPower: when you got that quote is that for just the service. would you have to get some sort of plan from the carier also so just the pri is enough? |
| 19:24.00 | asterboy | Bellcore’s BOC Notes on the LEC Networks, |
| 19:24.13 | troyb1 | Strom_M heh. |
| 19:24.35 | Strom_M | Sponge_bob, it depends on the carrier. The quotes I've seen are however much per month for the PRI and then a per-minute rate for the calls |
| 19:24.52 | troyb1 | Strom_M you cant just get unlimited DID's? |
| 19:25.10 | Strom_M | troyb1, inbound service is different |
| 19:25.39 | troyb1 | *understood* |
| 19:26.00 | Sponge_bob | Strom_M: just to get an idea...what range or per min rates are out there? |
| 19:26.35 | Strom_M | Sponge_bob, depends on whether you're getting a LEC PRI with switched IXC service or whether you're getting a PRI directly from the IXC |
| 19:26.47 | Qwell | ~ixc |
| 19:26.49 | jbot | hmm... ixc is Typically the carrier that was granted the right to provide service as a result of the breakup of AT&T. These providers are also referred to as RBOCs (Regional Bell Operating Companies) or Baby Bells. |
| 19:26.58 | Strom_M | god, that's wrong |
| 19:27.03 | Strom_M | ixc == interexchange carrier |
| 19:27.07 | Strom_M | i.e. long distance carrier |
| 19:27.09 | Strom_M | NOT RBOC |
| 19:27.19 | Qwell | fix0r it |
| 19:27.26 | asterboy | good god, there is a lot of technical info to digest on the swtiching networks. |
| 19:27.29 | Qwell | and where's my timeline? :p |
| 19:27.32 | Strom_M | jbot, forget ixc |
| 19:27.32 | jbot | i forgot ixc, Strom_M |
| 19:28.15 | Sponge_bob | is IXE ~ level 3? |
| 19:28.16 | Qwell | Strom_M: Should make something like the unix timeline...would be quite useful |
| 19:28.23 | Sponge_bob | IXC... |
| 19:28.27 | Strom_M | jbot, ixc is an interexchange carrier, also known as a long distance company, that transports calls between LATAs |
| 19:28.29 | jbot | okay, Strom_M |
| 19:28.33 | Strom_M | ~ixc |
| 19:28.35 | jbot | hmm... ixc is an interexchange carrier, also known as a long distance company, that transports calls between LATAs |
| 19:28.35 | Sponge_bob | ok |
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| 19:29.13 | Strom_M | jbot_, forget ixc |
| 19:29.42 | Strom_M | jbot, ixc is an interexchange carrier, also known as a long distance company, that transports calls between LATAs. Some examples are Sprint, Global Crossing, MCI, and AT&T. |
| 19:29.43 | jbot | ...but ixc is already something else... |
| 19:29.54 | Strom_M | jbot, forget ixc |
| 19:29.54 | jbot | Strom_M: i forgot ixc |
| 19:29.56 | Strom_M | jbot, ixc is an interexchange carrier, also known as a long distance company, that transports calls between LATAs. Some examples are Sprint, Global Crossing, MCI, and AT&T. |
| 19:29.58 | jbot | Strom_M: okay |
| 19:31.58 | Strom_M | much better |
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| 19:32.52 | justnulling2 | keep on getting this when in sip debug Destroying call '07f9f2367d85eea621d9de5923f5803d@127.0.1.1' |
| 19:33.02 | justnulling2 | why does it happend? |
| 19:33.09 | Strom_M | I should go through and see what else jbot has wrong |
| 19:33.13 | Strom_M | ~lec |
| 19:33.18 | ManxPower | justinu, turn off debug and it won't happen |
| 19:33.32 | Strom_M | ~LEC |
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| 19:34.44 | asterboy | Help, can't get my transfer and conferencing to work, I'm sure it's something in my config...get this message: NOTICE[12947]: app_dial.c:1011 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'Zap' (cause 0 - Unknown) |
| 19:34.59 | asterboy | Here is my extensions.conf: http://pastebin.ca/47006 |
| 19:35.09 | asterboy | any ideads greatly appreciated. |
| 19:35.12 | ManxPower | asterboy, your zap stuff is messed up. |
| 19:35.16 | ManxPower | what does zttool say? |
| 19:35.35 | asterboy | zttool is one of the utilities I missed in compile. |
| 19:35.39 | asterboy | I'll get that going. |
| 19:36.06 | justnulling2 | manxpower: well is that normal for * to keep destroing call on some odd local interface ip? |
| 19:36.22 | ManxPower | justnulling2, yes |
| 19:36.42 | justnulling2 | manxpower: fare enough |
| 19:37.55 | Strom_M | fare? |
| 19:38.01 | Strom_M | ~homonym |
| 19:38.07 | Strom_M | :) |
| 19:38.21 | Strom_M | ~IXC |
| 19:38.23 | jbot | methinks ixc is an interexchange carrier, also known as a long distance company, that transports calls between LATAs. Some examples are Sprint, Global Crossing, MCI, and AT&T. |
| 19:39.26 | Strom_M | jbot, LEC is a Local Exchange Carrier - a company who provides local service and often operates the "last mile" network. Examples are SBC, BellSouth, and Verizon. |
| 19:39.27 | jbot | okay, Strom_M |
| 19:41.15 | Strom_M | I can't believe jbot didn't have LEC in its dictionary |
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| 19:42.14 | MikeJ__ | add it |
| 19:42.24 | Strom_M | I already did |
| 19:42.32 | Sedorox | Strom_M: you should change that |
| 19:42.38 | Sedorox | to AT&T, Qwest and Verizon |
| 19:42.45 | Sedorox | as thats all thats really left :p |
| 19:43.24 | Strom_M | Sedorox, the BLS merger hasn't gone through yet, and AT&T hasn't integrated its LEC and IXC arms sufficiently enough yet for me to feel comfortable referring to both of them as AT&T yet |
| 19:43.43 | Sedorox | lol |
| 19:43.49 | Dovid | att buying bell south or vice versa ? |
| 19:43.53 | Sedorox | I thought bellsouth was confirmed/final |
| 19:43.55 | Strom_M | T is buying BLS |
| 19:44.03 | Sedorox | at&t(SBC) bought BS |
| 19:44.03 | Strom_M | the merger has been /announced/ |
| 19:44.08 | Qwell | What does AT&T stand for? |
| 19:44.17 | Sedorox | American Toliet and Trash? |
| 19:44.20 | Strom_M | the merger will only complete at the end of this year or early 2007 |
| 19:44.21 | Dovid | lol |
| 19:44.25 | Sedorox | :> |
| 19:44.27 | shmaltz | American Telegraph and Telephone |
| 19:44.31 | shmaltz | ~ATT |
| 19:44.32 | Qwell | oh, right |
| 19:44.35 | Dovid | i knew about i1 4 years ago |
| 19:44.36 | Dovid | ;) |
| 19:44.42 | Strom_M | originally stood for American Telepgone and Telegraph Co. but these days it doesn't actually stand for anything |
| 19:44.45 | Strom_M | er |
| 19:44.46 | Strom_M | Telephone |
| 19:44.59 | ManxPower | MCI Microwave Communications, Inc |
| 19:45.10 | Qwell | ManxPower: really? |
| 19:45.12 | shmaltz | verizon???????????????// |
| 19:45.19 | ManxPower | Sprint Southern Pacific Railroad *mumble* *mumble* |
| 19:45.30 | Sedorox | lo |
| 19:45.34 | Strom_M | Southern Pacific Railroad INternal Telecommunications IIRC |
| 19:45.34 | shmaltz | I think verizon is a misspell |
| 19:45.36 | ManxPower | Qwell, MCI's lawsuit is what broke up AT&T |
| 19:45.36 | Dovid | hiya shmaltz |
| 19:45.37 | Sedorox | verizon is just the north east LEC's joined back |
| 19:45.40 | Dovid | long time no see |
| 19:45.43 | Dovid | see |
| 19:45.47 | Qwell | Southern Pacific Railroad Is Not in Telephony? |
| 19:45.57 | Strom_M | Sedorox, no, Verizon bought MCI :) |
| 19:45.59 | shmaltz | hi Dovid |
| 19:46.08 | Sedorox | yea.. but before that |
| 19:46.14 | Qwell | Strom_M: seriously...timeline |
| 19:46.17 | Sedorox | Bell Atlantic + all the other one == verizon |
| 19:46.26 | Strom_M | Sedorox, if it makes you happy, I'll change the LEC examples to "Pacific Bell," "New York Telephone," and "General Telephone & Electronics" |
| 19:46.28 | Sedorox | then verizon bought MCI.. last year I think |
| 19:46.33 | Sedorox | ahahah |
| 19:46.38 | Strom_M | Sedorox, you forgot about GTE :) |
| 19:46.43 | Sedorox | Strom_M: I was actually just kidding |
| 19:46.49 | Sedorox | Strom_M: well yea.. thats all the other ones |
| 19:46.56 | Sedorox | I don't have them all memorized :p |
| 19:46.56 | Strom_M | uh, no. |
| 19:46.58 | Strom_M | not quite. |
| 19:47.08 | Sedorox | including in all the other ones... |
| 19:47.22 | Qwell | Strom_M: You could knock out a timeline in mspaint in like an hour :p |
| 19:47.27 | Sedorox | lol |
| 19:47.28 | Strom_M | haha yeah |
| 19:47.40 | Strom_M | I probably should |
| 19:47.40 | Sedorox | all I know is it all use to be AT&T... |
| 19:47.46 | Sedorox | and it looks like its all gonna be AT&T again :p |
| 19:47.53 | asterboy | oh right, now I remember why I don't have zttool. |
| 19:47.54 | Strom_M | Sedorox, "used to" - not "use to" |
| 19:47.55 | Qwell | Sedorox: not quite |
| 19:47.56 | asterboy | need newt. |
| 19:48.00 | asterboy | ~newt |
| 19:48.01 | jbot | newt is probably a library for creating text mode user interfaces. It's available at http://www.freedomphones.net/files/newt-0.51.6.tar.gz |
| 19:48.03 | Qwell | GTE was never AT&T, was it? |
| 19:48.11 | Strom_M | no, GTE was always independent |
| 19:48.15 | Sedorox | ah |
| 19:48.20 | Qwell | but GTE + babybell = Verizon? heh |
| 19:48.35 | Sedorox | I just barely remember Bell Atlantic..so.. |
| 19:48.36 | Sedorox | :p |
| 19:48.48 | Qwell | Where does Packard Bell fit into all this? |
| 19:48.49 | Strom_M | barely remember? what are you, like 15 or something? |
| 19:48.54 | shmaltz | not realy, (or am I wrong?) verizon = New York Bell, New York Telephone, Bell Atlantic |
| 19:48.55 | Sedorox | 20 :p |
| 19:49.06 | Strom_M | Qwell, Packard Bell served the great state of Assrapia |
| 19:49.12 | shmaltz | Qwell, he invented teh transistor |
| 19:49.20 | Strom_M | who the hell is "New York Bell"? |
| 19:49.31 | Strom_M | there was never a company called "New York Bell" |
| 19:50.05 | shmaltz | Storm_M, I created it just a few seconds ago |
| 19:50.07 | Strom_M | Verizon == New York Tel, New England Tel, C&P Tel, Diamond State Tel, Bell of PA, New Jersey Bell, and GTE |
| 19:50.08 | justnulling2 | anyone using amp/freepbx around here? |
| 19:50.15 | Qwell | justnulling2: see topic |
| 19:50.27 | asterboy | Anyone have a binary version of newt they can send me? |
| 19:50.28 | Qwell | Strom_M: That's one hell of a merger. |
| 19:50.39 | asterboy | err...not newt...zttool |
| 19:50.49 | Strom_M | Qwell, NYTel + NETel == NYNEX |
| 19:50.51 | Qwell | /dcc send asterboy newt-not-a-rootkit-jpg.exe |
| 19:50.54 | justnulling2 | qwell: was that a 'no' |
| 19:50.58 | asterboy | lol |
| 19:50.58 | Qwell | justnulling2: yes |
| 19:51.06 | Strom_M | C&P, Diamond State, Bell of PA, NJ Bell == Bell Atlantic |
| 19:51.13 | Strom_M | GTE == GTE |
| 19:51.26 | Qwell | Then those three in one merger? |
| 19:51.29 | Strom_M | no |
| 19:51.31 | Qwell | heh |
| 19:51.32 | justnulling2 | qwell: too bad freepbx looks dead right now |
| 19:51.33 | ManxPower | well parts of GTE, other parts were ate by SBC |
| 19:51.33 | Qwell | brutal |
| 19:51.39 | Strom_M | Bell Atlantic bought NYNEX in 1997 |
| 19:51.57 | shmaltz | Storm_M, yep I remember that |
| 19:51.57 | Strom_M | ManxPower, what the hell are you on? SBC doesn't own any former GTE properties AFAIK |
| 19:52.08 | shmaltz | Bell atlantic was only around in NY for around 2 years |
| 19:52.12 | shmaltz | then big V came along |
| 19:52.18 | ManxPower | Strom_C, not even the GTP properties in Southern California? |
| 19:52.22 | ManxPower | GTE, that is. |
| 19:52.25 | Strom_M | when Bell Atlantic bought GTE, Bell Atlantic changed its name to Verizon |
| 19:52.27 | Qwell | ManxPower: socal GTE is Verizon |
| 19:52.30 | Strom_M | ManxPower, no, West LA is Verizon |
| 19:52.43 | ManxPower | Ah! OK. |
| 19:52.59 | Qwell | we still have some GTE manhole covers, heh |
| 19:53.14 | Qwell | outside of my old apt, was a big green box, GTE marked |
| 19:53.34 | Strom_M | Qwell, that's nothing. There's a manhole cover round the corner that says "TPT&TCo." |
| 19:53.35 | ManxPower | I know that parts of GTE's data network were bought by BBN |
| 19:53.39 | Qwell | Strom_M: scary |
| 19:53.40 | *** join/#asterisk file[laptop] (n=jcolp@mctnnbsa24w-142167058031.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net) |
| 19:53.59 | asterboy | Here is a pastebin of Newt compile failure: http://pastebin.ca/47064 |
| 19:54.03 | Qwell | Strom_M: so, when you get bored...I hope to see a timeline. :p |
| 19:54.05 | Strom_M | well, technically it's "T P T & T Co." |
| 19:54.09 | asterboy | looking for a slang.h |
| 19:54.10 | Qwell | That would be quite interesting... |
| 19:54.21 | Strom_M | Qwell, I should do that, shouldn't I |
| 19:54.25 | ManxPower | asterboy, why don't you just install it from .rpm or .deb? |
| 19:54.30 | Strom_M | I wish I had all the companies' corporate logos |
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| 19:54.37 | Qwell | You really should. I've not ever seen one, or even the starts of one |
| 19:54.40 | asterboy | I'm on LFS |
| 19:54.54 | *** part/#asterisk capivara (n=filipem@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com) |
| 19:54.55 | asterboy | I really never liked rpm |
| 19:55.06 | Dovid | i luv YUM :) |
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| 19:55.13 | SwK | rpm, deb yun aptget etc are all evil i tell you |
| 19:55.14 | asterboy | :) |
| 19:55.27 | asterboy | Dovid, did you get your laptop fixed? |
| 19:55.33 | SwK | /usr/ports is where its at |
| 19:55.39 | Dovid | still acting up |
| 19:55.44 | Qwell | bbl |
| 19:55.46 | Dovid | i think its more the crapy DsL here |
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| 19:56.04 | asterboy | ManxPower says my zaptel config is a mess. |
| 19:56.22 | asterboy | zttool would be nice to get running for debug, but I can't get newt to compile. |
| 19:56.28 | ManxPower | zttool doesn't not say anything like that. ztcfg night |
| 19:56.35 | asterboy | ah |
| 19:56.37 | asterboy | got ztcfg |
| 19:56.44 | Dovid | asterboy: some times works great other times its shit |
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| 19:56.50 | asterboy | /s/got/have/ |
| 19:56.52 | Dovid | i.e. now its not workin |
| 19:56.59 | Strom_M | Qwell, I'm sketching a basic one out right now :) |
| 19:57.02 | ManxPower | zttool is a basic zaptel debugging tool |
| 19:57.17 | troyb1 | ManxPower how long till' at&t = ma bell? |
| 19:57.27 | shmaltz | another sycho: |
| 19:57.29 | shmaltz | http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=businessNews&storyid=2006-03-26T111451Z_01_L2446861_RTRUKOC_0_US-SWISS-IKEA-KAMPRAD.xml&rpc=23 |
| 19:57.41 | SwK | i wish zttool would actually loop up the card everytime you told it to |
| 19:58.18 | asterboy | anyone have a binary of ztool? |
| 19:58.25 | *** part/#asterisk a1fa (n=a1fa@207.210.210.202) |
| 19:58.30 | asterboy | save me the pain of getting newt to work |
| 19:58.59 | asterboy | ztcfg just shows my channel map, which looks good. |
| 19:59.16 | asterboy | i.e. |
| 19:59.17 | asterboy | Channel 01: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 01) |
| 19:59.25 | asterboy | I have 3 channels. |
| 19:59.31 | SwK | all zttool does is show alarms such |
| 19:59.46 | SwK | it really doesnt show much more then that |
| 20:00.16 | asterboy | I can't get transfers/conferences to work: here is the pastebin |
| 20:00.19 | asterboy | http://pastebin.ca/47006 |
| 20:01.44 | asterboy | Not sure why it can not create a ZAP channel. |
| 20:01.59 | asterboy | dial_exec_full? |
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| 20:11.28 | asterboy | Pastebin of ZAP show channel 1,2,3 http://pastebin.ca/47067 |
| 20:11.47 | Cybertoy | anyone use Ekiga with asterisk? |
| 20:11.52 | Cybertoy | and got the video to work? |
| 20:13.34 | asterboy | I am trying to do the transfer from a Polycom SIP phone so maybe I should try the *2 instead |
| 20:16.15 | asterboy | well, thanks for some of the help. |
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| 20:28.02 | *** part/#asterisk clive- (n=pirch@dsl-145-14-51.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 20:31.28 | Strom_M | asterboy is gone |
| 20:31.29 | Strom_M | finally! |
| 20:31.40 | Strom_M | Qwell, I'm doing that timeline for you :) |
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| 20:32.31 | lohapuk | just wondering how to fix app_voicemail.so: undefined symbol: adsi_available |
| 20:33.11 | Dr-Linux | i have a same question tht i was asking last night, but didn't get any answer :S |
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| 20:33.42 | lohapuk | its very annoying got everything working except voicemail |
| 20:35.34 | Pegger | lohapuk, voicemail is not that hard |
| 20:35.43 | Pegger | compared to other things |
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| 20:36.08 | SwK | why are you getting adsi symbol issues |
| 20:36.14 | lohapuk | yep but i cant load the voicemail module as i get adsi_avaible |
| 20:36.23 | Dr-Linux | how can forward a call on other asterisk server, if i know only the IP/port ? |
| 20:36.30 | *** part/#asterisk n4y (n=tmalkut@host-ip2-24.crowley.pl) |
| 20:36.34 | SwK | did you disable compiling adis support? |
| 20:36.40 | SwK | s/adis/adsi/ |
| 20:36.48 | SwK | hah |
| 20:36.58 | SwK | ok when did jbot start that? |
| 20:37.13 | SwK | foobar |
| 20:37.19 | SwK | s/foobar/barfoo/ |
| 20:37.21 | lohapuk | its the debian pacakge |
| 20:37.58 | SwK | better contact that package maintainer them as it sounds like you are missing res_adsi.so |
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| 20:38.26 | Strom_M | Qwell, you there? |
| 20:38.33 | Strom_M | I have your graphic ready :) |
| 20:38.44 | lohapuk | nope it is there |
| 20:38.56 | lohapuk | in /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/ |
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| 20:39.39 | harlequin516 | Okay here is where I am confused... Why specify channel extension and priority, instead of extension1 priority1 extension2 priority2 ?? |
| 20:39.48 | SwK | are you noloading it? |
| 20:40.01 | lohapuk | am no just sorted |
| 20:40.06 | Strom_M | harlequin516, your question makes no sense |
| 20:40.06 | harlequin516 | I always thought switchboards kinda just connect two extensions. |
| 20:40.29 | harlequin516 | I'm talking about using callout, with channel extension and priority... |
| 20:40.30 | SwK | harlequin: think of priority more as step 1, step 2 |
| 20:40.52 | harlequin516 | Yeah I get the priority, its the use of channel that puzzles me.. |
| 20:41.17 | SwK | wth are you talking about? |
| 20:41.31 | Strom_M | like I said, question makes no sense :) |
| 20:41.56 | harlequin516 | I'm trying to AMI callout, and have one terminus of the communication be a socket to another app using agi, and the other to be POTS line. |
| 20:42.38 | SwK | do dont specify channel and exten/priority at the same time |
| 20:42.40 | harlequin516 | The problem is I am confused setting it up, because I want to make asterisk setup the communcations though AGI first then dialout. |
| 20:42.52 | harlequin516 | socket communications first |
| 20:43.08 | SwK | well you do, but chaneel is the origination side, and the exten/priority is the destination side |
| 20:43.26 | Dr-Linux | no one bother to answer my question :S |
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| 20:43.38 | SwK | and if you want to call an exten for the origination side you do it via a local channel... local/exten@context |
| 20:43.47 | Strom_M | Dr-Linux, if no one knows the answer, they're not going to try and help |
| 20:44.24 | SwK | dr-linux: looks like you didnt even look at the dial command help |
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| 20:44.44 | harlequin516 | SwK: I think I heard this same thing before, but only now (maybe because your statemnt was so clear) do I finally undestand this. |
| 20:45.03 | Dr-Linux | SwK: sorry to say i coudn't explain my questions |
| 20:45.06 | *** part/#asterisk frenzy (n=frenzy@196.45.144.41) |
| 20:45.17 | harlequin516 | With your perms, I will add this to the voip-info site. |
| 20:45.37 | SwK | voip-info should already be fairly clear on it |
| 20:46.06 | harlequin516 | No its not I have toiled over that site for a while, I think they say everything but the specific example you stated. |
| 20:46.07 | SwK | unless someone has been screwing with the pages there again |
| 20:46.22 | harlequin516 | As if it was supposed to be that obvious, but for new people its not. |
| 20:46.31 | harlequin516 | so clear I mean. |
| 20:48.17 | SwK | riddle me this what is the bright idea behind multi-part rar'ing something you put on bittorrent? |
| 20:48.21 | SwK | thats just annoying |
| 20:48.54 | lohapuk | any reson why xlite aint sending dtmf |
| 20:49.02 | Dr-Linux | SwK: can i /msg ? |
| 20:52.28 | SwK | ask in publis so it helps everyone |
| 20:52.42 | Dr-Linux | SwK: okey |
| 20:53.02 | Dr-Linux | SwK: i got 3 phone number from my voip provider |
| 20:53.13 | Dr-Linux | when i was given numbers, |
| 20:53.26 | Dr-Linux | provider just asked me my IP and port |
| 20:53.44 | Dr-Linux | so i gave him, and i recieve the calls on my asterisk box |
| 20:53.54 | Dr-Linux | i'm not sure what he did to set it up |
| 20:53.59 | Dr-Linux | i wanna do same solution |
| 20:54.05 | Dr-Linux | any idea? |
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| 20:55.53 | pigpen2 | hi all...I have a quick one: I am using a Digium 2431. I have 6 of the fxs's used by a pathologist dictation server. A feature is to "Disconnect" from the remote user. This apparently sends a "disconnect" tone. But the server never recieves it. |
| 20:56.28 | pigpen2 | The line drops because the remote user hangs up, but the dictation software does not release the port because it never rec'd the disconnect tone.... |
| 20:56.31 | Heimidal | how can I make internal caller id work correctly? right now, caller id displays "User's Name 802@XX.XXX.XXX.XXX" where X is the IP address of the asterisk box |
| 20:56.42 | pigpen2 | ideas? This was in production for 5 years prior on flatlines. |
| 20:57.58 | Heimidal | also, asterisk is insisting that calls go out on SIP instead of IAX and I can't find why. it must be a default option set somewhere.. |
| 20:59.00 | Dr-Linux | SwK? |
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| 21:02.29 | wiseguy_ | anyone using passthrought calls with quadBRI? |
| 21:02.49 | lohapuk | anyone now any decent free software phones for windows |
| 21:02.52 | wiseguy_ | SIP/2.0 404 Not Found |
| 21:03.16 | Cybertoy | lohapuk, x-lite |
| 21:03.27 | lohapuk | only got 3 lines |
| 21:04.03 | lohapuk | and no call transfer |
| 21:04.09 | Cybertoy | then use eyebeam |
| 21:04.20 | Cybertoy | not free though |
| 21:06.18 | ambriento | ~seen asterbiy |
| 21:06.20 | jbot | i haven't seen 'asterbiy', ambriento |
| 21:06.20 | ambriento | ~seen asterboy |
| 21:06.22 | jbot | asterboy <n=kevin@S010600485480f4be.ed.shawcable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 50m 7s ago, saying: 'well, thanks for some of the help.'. |
| 21:07.53 | wiseguy_ | anyone? |
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| 21:13.31 | Assid | heya |
| 21:13.41 | Assid | anyone managed to get sip discount to wrok from asterisk |
| 21:16.31 | *** join/#asterisk iceyp (n=icepick@firewall.unix.co.nz) |
| 21:16.53 | Cybertoy | yes |
| 21:17.04 | Cybertoy | uh |
| 21:17.04 | iceyp | hey guys, who's got the best calling charges atm? I saw voipbusters free locations and 1c per minute deal, then I also saw that voipstunt has something simular |
| 21:17.09 | iceyp | anyone used either? |
| 21:17.18 | Cybertoy | or one of their other companies... like voipdiscount or internetcalls.com |
| 21:17.36 | Cybertoy | I expect that to be similar to sipdiscount though |
| 21:17.50 | dpryo | voipcunts |
| 21:17.52 | Assid | Cybertoy: everytime i try to make a call.. it just hangs up after 3-4 seconds |
| 21:17.53 | iceyp | voipdiscount is voipbuster |
| 21:17.56 | Cybertoy | voipdiscount.com has the most free countries now |
| 21:18.15 | iceyp | Cybertoy is voipdiscount got good quality? |
| 21:18.20 | iceyp | I like the 1c to South Africa idea |
| 21:18.39 | Cybertoy | I have no quality problems with voipdiscount... |
| 21:18.46 | Assid | okay now again.. this stupid thing blew up in my face.. the pap2 lost its fxs interface |
| 21:18.51 | Cybertoy | personally I like the free Brazil calls... :) |
| 21:18.54 | iceyp | Cybertoy do they cut ur call after 1 min free calling? |
| 21:19.05 | Cybertoy | ice, no they don't |
| 21:19.14 | iceyp | so I can make free calls without paying? |
| 21:19.23 | Cybertoy | Assid, perhaps they cut your call there if you didn't load your account... |
| 21:19.23 | iceyp | no time limit |
| 21:19.25 | Cybertoy | ice, exactly. |
| 21:19.30 | iceyp | mmmm |
| 21:19.36 | Cybertoy | ice, I think my wife reported that calls get cut after an hour |
| 21:19.45 | Cybertoy | but I don't make calls that long. |
| 21:19.46 | Assid | Cybertoy: if my pap2 registers directly.. then no problem |
| 21:19.50 | iceyp | neighther |
| 21:19.55 | iceyp | Cybertoy do u pay anything ? |
| 21:19.57 | Assid | but if i proxy my call through asterisk |
| 21:19.59 | Assid | it dies off |
| 21:20.00 | iceyp | or u still on the freebsd |
| 21:20.00 | Cybertoy | ice, no .. nothing. |
| 21:20.09 | iceyp | do you use asterisk? |
| 21:20.22 | Assid | Cybertoy: can you show me your settings for this? |
| 21:20.25 | Cybertoy | yes... with asterisk... |
| 21:20.26 | Assid | mine just dies out |
| 21:20.35 | iceyp | Assid i saw settings on voip-info |
| 21:20.50 | iceyp | mmm, is there a way to signup withouth aving to d/l their software |
| 21:21.10 | Cybertoy | no idea... I always need to use a windows machine to sign up with them |
| 21:21.19 | iceyp | kk |
| 21:21.20 | Cybertoy | sec .. I'll put my settings to pastebin.ca.. |
| 21:21.52 | Assid | also anyone know why this pap2 keeps getting disconnected |
| 21:22.01 | Cybertoy | http://pastebin.ca/47075 |
| 21:22.08 | Cybertoy | that's voipdiscount sip.conf settings. |
| 21:22.11 | Assid | i mean all of a sudden it just loses the phone1 line |
| 21:22.14 | iceyp | grr is there site down atm? my company proxy reporting dns issue |
| 21:22.22 | Cybertoy | you have to submit your own username and secret... |
| 21:23.57 | Assid | yeah.. im using my sipdiscount account |
| 21:24.00 | Cybertoy | voipdiscount.com works for me... their web-site that is. |
| 21:24.18 | Cybertoy | oh .. and since they're all the same company... you can't use the same username you have with sipdiscount... you need to use another one. |
| 21:24.37 | Cybertoy | voipbuster ... voipdiscount ... internetcalls ... sipdiscount ... voipstunt .... |
| 21:24.46 | Assid | yeah |
| 21:24.58 | Assid | i have sip discount/voipbuster and voipstunt |
| 21:25.01 | Assid | all seperate accounts |
| 21:25.17 | lohapuk | ayone got any idea why when i ring someone else extension and send dtmf they hear it put voicemail dosn't react to it |
| 21:25.20 | Cybertoy | gotta run away... will be back in about an hour. |
| 21:26.16 | Assid | just gets stuck on tyring to make a call |
| 21:26.18 | Darwin_35 | everyone is fired.... go home |
| 21:28.50 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@host-81-191-147-248.bluecom.no) |
| 21:30.28 | Assid | doesnt wanna ring from my box |
| 21:31.11 | Qwell | Strom_M: link? |
| 21:31.21 | Strom_M | http://www.stromcarlson.com/misc/rboc_mergers.png |
| 21:31.41 | Qwell | excellent |
| 21:33.00 | Qwell | So, just Sprint, Qwest, Verizon, and AT&T left? |
| 21:33.21 | Qwell | of the "major" players |
| 21:33.26 | *** join/#asterisk kFuQ (n=somedude@c-67-185-114-199.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 21:33.30 | harlequin516 | When you originate a call asterisk essentially callouts to the Specified channel and the when answers connects the the context,extension,priority. What if I want my dial plan to make the origination call and the destination call. What would I specify for my dialplan/callout file? |
| 21:34.09 | Assid | damn it just doesnt wanna work through fro me |
| 21:34.41 | Pegger | has anyone set up billing with asterisk before |
| 21:36.11 | Flauto | pegger, i tried a2billing |
| 21:36.16 | Flauto | but did not work out |
| 21:36.32 | *** join/#asterisk fjean (n=fjean@201009208229.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 21:36.38 | fjean | hello guys |
| 21:37.08 | fjean | anyone knows what 'name' field from sip_buddies is used for ? |
| 21:37.29 | iceyp | how does one make a call with voipdiscount; i.e. to new zealand is it 01164xxxxxxxx |
| 21:37.44 | Assid | this thing refuses to work for me |
| 21:37.49 | Strom_M | Qwell, yeah |
| 21:39.23 | Assid | damn.. this pap2 line just goes off when i have it register with y asterisk box |
| 21:39.30 | iceyp | would this work... |
| 21:39.30 | Vco | no..never |
| 21:39.30 | iceyp | exten => _7.,1,Dial(SIP/011${EXTEN:1}@voipbuster) |
| 21:39.46 | Assid | i take the 2nd line... and i register with sipdiscount directly.. and it doesnt go off |
| 21:40.03 | Assid | is there something i gotta do to make the pap2 stay online without cutting off |
| 21:40.23 | Flauto | iceyp, it should be 00$ |
| 21:40.35 | iceyp | ahh i though usa was 011 |
| 21:40.37 | iceyp | let me try 00 |
| 21:40.39 | iceyp | thanks |
| 21:44.28 | Qwell | Strom_M: I don't see pacbell on there |
| 21:44.35 | Strom_M | Qwell, Pacific Telesis |
| 21:44.37 | Qwell | ahh |
| 21:44.57 | Strom_M | Pac Bell was the operating company; Pac Tel was the holding company |
| 21:45.03 | Qwell | I see |
| 21:47.52 | Qwell | Strom_M: You should start it at the top, as AT&T, heh |
| 21:48.15 | h3x | the end is also AT&T |
| 21:48.19 | Qwell | h3x: almost |
| 21:48.26 | Qwell | AT&T++ even |
| 21:48.27 | h3x | two more mergers. |
| 21:48.41 | Qwell | 3 would do it |
| 21:48.53 | h3x | they are already merging with bellsouth dude |
| 21:48.56 | Qwell | well, 2, plus the pending one, yeah |
| 21:49.12 | Strom_M | h3x, http://www.stromcarlson.com/misc/rboc_mergers.png |
| 21:49.34 | Qwell | Strom_M: and Cingular isn't in that list - although it isn't an RBOC |
| 21:49.44 | Strom_M | i left out mobile phone companies |
| 21:49.56 | Qwell | I imagine it would get pretty nasty with those in there, heh |
| 21:52.08 | h3x | then starbucks will buy it |
| 21:52.12 | h3x | and it will be AT&T/Starbucks |
| 21:52.14 | *** join/#asterisk |cleric| (n=dacleric@p54828E72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:53.07 | Strom_M | starbucks is not buying AT&T with a market cap of only 28 billion |
| 21:53.15 | *** join/#asterisk christo (n=chris@brezhnev.spiration.co.uk) |
| 21:53.17 | christo | aye |
| 21:53.22 | Qwell | I vote walmart |
| 21:53.25 | h3x | they'll figure it out |
| 21:53.37 | h3x | krispy kreme will buy out walmart |
| 21:53.39 | h3x | then it will be |
| 21:53.42 | h3x | donuts & coffee |
| 21:53.44 | h3x | owning the world |
| 21:54.54 | Assid | i cant get this crap to dial out |
| 21:55.05 | Assid | stupid voipdiscount |
| 21:55.48 | Assid | neither voipstunt nor sip discount working |
| 21:57.43 | Qwell | That's what you get for using providers with "discount" and "stunt" in their name |
| 21:59.31 | iceyp | voipdiscount aint working for me either |
| 21:59.37 | iceyp | I get dead air for 4 seconds then it hangs up |
| 21:59.42 | Qwell | Strom_M: I give it like 3 years, before AT&T makes their ultimate purchase. |
| 21:59.45 | iceyp | Mar 27 09:58:59 WARNING[78287]: chan_sip.c:697 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 64967b60537e0f3779190eb35c1447e1@60.234.68.100 for seqno 102 (Critical Request) |
| 21:59.52 | Qwell | Strom_M: care to guess who it'll be? |
| 21:59.54 | Assid | mine dont even shot the calls making a connection no more |
| 21:59.58 | Strom_M | Verizon? :) |
| 22:00.05 | Qwell | Strom_M: nah, I give that 2 years |
| 22:00.11 | Qwell | the FCC |
| 22:00.12 | brookshire | 3 months |
| 22:00.13 | Strom_M | haha |
| 22:00.39 | Strom_M | Qwell, we should start voipfuck.com and offer totally free voip that doesnt work unless you wave a dead chicken at it |
| 22:00.45 | Qwell | I'm telling you...within 18 months, Verizon will buy Sprint, then about 6-9 months later, AT&T will buy Verizon |
| 22:00.53 | *** join/#asterisk pigpen2 (n=mark@66.118.8.74) |
| 22:01.05 | brookshire | i bet at&t will buy comcast or cox before they buy verizon |
| 22:01.07 | Qwell | Then by 2010, AT&T will buy the FCC |
| 22:01.16 | Qwell | brookshire: Charter...small, easy pickin's |
| 22:01.20 | Strom_M | AT&T already tried the cable company thing |
| 22:01.33 | Qwell | RR? |
| 22:01.35 | Assid | guess i will pickup voipjet |
| 22:01.42 | Qwell | But, that wasn't REALLY AT&T, that was AT&T |
| 22:01.49 | Qwell | AT&T != AT&T |
| 22:01.50 | Qwell | heh |
| 22:01.50 | Strom_M | Qwell, no, RR was Time Warner |
| 22:01.56 | brookshire | haha.. |
| 22:02.02 | brookshire | actually |
| 22:02.04 | Strom_M | AT&T bought TCI IIRC |
| 22:02.04 | Qwell | right, but wasn't RR AT&T? |
| 22:02.08 | Qwell | or some such |
| 22:02.10 | brookshire | it's AT&T != at&t |
| 22:02.10 | Strom_M | no, RR was always time warner |
| 22:02.13 | Qwell | brookshire: right |
| 22:02.17 | h3x | hence the name |
| 22:02.19 | h3x | road runner |
| 22:02.20 | h3x | cartoon |
| 22:02.23 | h3x | der |
| 22:02.25 | Assid | err.. is there a way to have a 3 way conference through a pap2 on a single line? |
| 22:02.25 | MikeJ__ | :P |
| 22:02.38 | Qwell | I think rr actually was independent before tw |
| 22:02.41 | MikeJ__ | 3 way on a single line? |
| 22:02.49 | Qwell | little isp |
| 22:02.51 | brookshire | yeah.. but if at&t actually buys a company like comcast who knows what they are doing with cable.. it might actually work! |
| 22:02.52 | Assid | 2 wat even |
| 22:03.02 | MikeJ__ | 2 way, you mean a call? |
| 22:03.03 | Qwell | brookshire: like Comcast? ha |
| 22:03.04 | MikeJ__ | heh |
| 22:03.12 | Assid | err. yeah.. incoming/outgoing |
| 22:03.15 | Qwell | aren't all calls 2 way calls? |
| 22:03.22 | Assid | well.. |
| 22:03.29 | MikeJ__ | Qwell, maybe... |
| 22:03.33 | Assid | right now i can do it by putting 1 on hold |
| 22:03.38 | Assid | i wanna know how to conference all |
| 22:03.54 | MikeJ__ | you could have a 2 leg 1 way call... like talking to my wife? |
| 22:03.59 | MikeJ__ | that's not true.. |
| 22:04.01 | Qwell | MikeJ__: heh |
| 22:04.04 | MikeJ__ | I just thought it was funny |
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| 22:04.25 | fjean | anyone is using sip realtime ? |
| 22:04.27 | MikeJ__ | oky.. I have my solaris 10 cd |
| 22:04.33 | *** part/#asterisk io_error (n=error@mdsnwikwbas08-pool7-a82.mdsnwikw.tds.net) |
| 22:04.34 | Qwell | x86? |
| 22:04.37 | brookshire | phear the solaris 10 |
| 22:04.37 | MikeJ__ | errrr dvd |
| 22:04.39 | MikeJ__ | yeah... |
| 22:04.42 | Qwell | fun |
| 22:04.44 | Qwell | vmware? |
| 22:04.56 | brookshire | mike: are you going to hax0r the gibson? |
| 22:05.04 | MikeJ__ | was gunna actally put it on a box |
| 22:05.09 | Qwell | I installed Solaris once...it was...weird |
| 22:05.14 | MikeJ__ | but probably on my laptop in vmware too |
| 22:05.16 | MikeJ__ | well.. |
| 22:05.18 | Qwell | the installer was asking me some really off the wall questions |
| 22:05.28 | *** join/#asterisk medusaXX (n=medusaxx@p54A9B69B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:05.38 | MikeJ__ | I think all my porting stuff I do now, outside of driver work... is going to start with sun studio first |
| 22:05.39 | brookshire | solaris 10 is stupid if you do not install it correctly the first time (so i hear) |
| 22:05.41 | Pegger | has anyone set up billing with asterisk before in real time |
| 22:05.43 | MikeJ__ | before I even try windows |
| 22:05.46 | Qwell | brookshire: indeed |
| 22:05.59 | Qwell | Pegger: nope, you'd be the first |
| 22:06.17 | MikeJ__ | sun studio compiler actually forces you to do a lot of stuff right |
| 22:06.36 | MikeJ__ | then there are only a thing or 2 that msvc doesn't support at that point |
| 22:06.44 | brookshire | qwell: markcocam, quick! wtf! |
| 22:07.05 | Qwell | eww! |
| 22:07.17 | Qwell | I am so disappointed |
| 22:07.22 | MikeJ__ | heh |
| 22:07.27 | MikeJ__ | the little devil |
| 22:07.29 | Strom_M | haha |
| 22:07.41 | MikeJ__ | once again.. I would go to solaris first on sun studio... |
| 22:07.52 | MikeJ__ | once you get that done... it's easy to go elsewhere |
| 22:07.58 | Qwell | well...now that I see it closer, that isn't so bad |
| 22:08.14 | MikeJ__ | but asterisk would have to be willing to give up the gccisms to do it.. |
| 22:08.20 | MikeJ__ | and I don't see that happening |
| 22:08.29 | Qwell | as long as it isn't "Using and maintaining the FreeBSD Operating System" |
| 22:08.39 | MikeJ__ | heh |
| 22:09.19 | Qwell | he's back! run! |
| 22:09.28 | brookshire | OMG |
| 22:09.28 | Assid | okay time for me to hit the sack.. tomorrow i gotta work on agents and queus.. and call monitoring |
| 22:09.30 | brookshire | HE'S THERE |
| 22:09.43 | Assid | like how they do in call centers |
| 22:09.44 | brookshire | yay! |
| 22:09.47 | brookshire | brb |
| 22:10.55 | Strom_M | on the next episode of markocam: brookshire and markster have a traumatic argument over freeebsd |
| 22:11.31 | Qwell | I could never get away with qwellcam |
| 22:11.48 | Strom_M | i need to install stromcam |
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| 22:13.10 | Cybertoy | ~seen JerJer |
| 22:13.13 | jbot | jerjer <n=jj@pdpc/supporter/bronze/jerjer> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 31d 1h 14m 20s ago, saying: 'Kovecses: ok there isn't a debian package for this? thanks'. |
| 22:13.16 | Qwell | I often wonder how many hits markocam gets |
| 22:16.44 | Heimidal | does anyone have any idea why the voicemail system wouldn't play the recorded greeting (and play the default greeting instead?) |
| 22:17.17 | Strom_M | Heimidal, show me the line in the dialplan where it routes the caller to voicemail |
| 22:17.50 | Heimidal | exten => _8XX,n,Voicemail(${EXTEN}) |
| 22:18.31 | Strom_M | yeah, you need to do Voicemail(u${EXTEN}) for unavailable, or Voicemail(b${EXTEN}) for busy |
| 22:18.40 | Heimidal | ah |
| 22:18.41 | Heimidal | gotcha |
| 22:19.08 | Heimidal | and is there any way for someone to review their recorded greeting? I can't seem to find a menu item.. |
| 22:19.39 | Strom_M | you have the option to review it after you record it |
| 22:20.12 | Qwell | there isn't a way to review it, without recording it, unfortunately |
| 22:20.17 | Qwell | which, IMO, is kinda silly |
| 22:20.31 | Heimidal | k, oh well |
| 22:20.55 | Strom_M | feature request for the next version :) |
| 22:21.05 | Qwell | I could do it, but I'm lazy :p |
| 22:21.10 | Qwell | so it'd cost ya |
| 22:21.22 | Heimidal | lol |
| 22:21.37 | Strom_M | it looks like the stromcam will happen when I am richer |
| 22:21.55 | Qwell | Heimidal: I need a TV tuner. Help me out here. :P |
| 22:21.58 | Heimidal | also, the Cisco phones have a Messages button. How do I make that button pass the user's extension automatically? |
| 22:22.04 | Qwell | sip or sccp? |
| 22:22.07 | Heimidal | sip |
| 22:22.31 | Strom_M | you could set it for each phone in sip[mac].cfg right? |
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| 22:22.32 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o russellb] by ChanServ |
| 22:22.48 | Qwell | messages_uri: "1234" |
| 22:22.56 | Heimidal | Strom_M: you can set the VM extension, yeah, but I'm not sure how to pass the user's extension to VoicemailMain |
| 22:23.15 | Heimidal | I don't want the user to have to enter their extension when they press that button :P |
| 22:23.21 | Strom_M | VoicemailMain(${CALLERID(num)}) ? |
| 22:23.27 | Qwell | 1234,1,VoicemailMain(${CALLERID(number)}) |
| 22:23.28 | Qwell | indeed |
| 22:23.40 | Heimidal | ah |
| 22:23.46 | Strom_M | I should put some pants on |
| 22:23.57 | Qwell | somebody remind me to never visit stromcam |
| 22:24.09 | Strom_M | hahah |
| 22:24.12 | Qwell | or, have a flag/warning on the front page |
| 22:24.18 | Corydon76-home | Don't forget underwear |
| 22:24.20 | Qwell | "boolPants = false" |
| 22:24.43 | Qwell | spooncam! |
| 22:24.44 | Qwell | oh, wait |
| 22:24.53 | Strom_C | underwear? |
| 22:25.03 | Strom_C | hahaha, like I wear underwear |
| 22:25.29 | VeNoMouS_ | hrm |
| 22:25.33 | VeNoMouS_ | ok now thats weird |
| 22:25.38 | Qwell | VeNoMouS_: I agree |
| 22:25.41 | VeNoMouS_ | heh |
| 22:25.47 | VeNoMouS_ | i got 2 eyebeams loged into asterisk |
| 22:25.55 | Heimidal | hmm... does the Cisco phone have a display option for how many messages on in your voicemail? |
| 22:25.56 | VeNoMouS_ | i setup a dial(sip/number..) |
| 22:26.01 | VeNoMouS_ | but i get this when i call |
| 22:26.03 | VeNoMouS_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:26.03 | VeNoMouS_ | Mar 27 10:24:42 WARNING[2814]: chan_sip.c:1973 create_addr: No such host: 099705586 |
| 22:26.05 | Qwell | Heimidal: I setup something in the Services |
| 22:26.25 | Heimidal | that feature's not that important to me :P |
| 22:26.45 | Qwell | was fairly easy. I use odbc storage for voicemail, so it's a small query |
| 22:27.06 | Heimidal | ok, last question, I promise :P |
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| 22:27.19 | Qwell | somebody remind me to have a flash option for skinny, like an oldschool answering machine... |
| 22:27.31 | Heimidal | right now, whenever a call comes in, it shows something like CALLERIDINFO@IP_OF_ASTERISK |
| 22:27.34 | Qwell | have it flash x times, where x is the number of VMs |
| 22:27.39 | Heimidal | I don't want the @XX.XX.XX.XXX in there |
| 22:28.20 | Cybertoy | Heimidal, where's the call coming from? |
| 22:28.29 | Heimidal | either Teliax or another phone on the network |
| 22:28.31 | Heimidal | it doesn't matter |
| 22:28.32 | Cybertoy | Heimidal, that channel needs to send proper callerid |
| 22:28.58 | Cybertoy | Heimidal, so that needs to be defined in sip.conf if it originates from a sip channel |
| 22:29.15 | Heimidal | what would the proper callerid line be? |
| 22:29.31 | VeNoMouS_ | why would a local sip # |
| 22:29.34 | VeNoMouS_ | not work |
| 22:29.39 | VeNoMouS_ | it thinx the ext is a host |
| 22:29.54 | Cybertoy | Heimidal, e.g. callerid=Firstname Lastname <12345> |
| 22:32.05 | VeNoMouS_ | exten => 099705586,1,Dial(SIP/099705586,30,r) |
| 22:32.10 | VeNoMouS_ | why would that not work? |
| 22:32.39 | Cybertoy | venomous, you don't have a channel name defined |
| 22:32.48 | Cybertoy | should be SIP/yourprovider/099705.... |
| 22:33.01 | Cybertoy | or SIP/09975...@yourprovider |
| 22:33.09 | Cybertoy | and in sip.conf you need a context for yourprovider |
| 22:33.11 | VeNoMouS_ | dude |
| 22:33.13 | VeNoMouS_ | its a local sip |
| 22:33.20 | VeNoMouS_ | thats logging into asterisk |
| 22:34.03 | Cybertoy | ok .. and in sip.conf the context for it is [099705586] ? |
| 22:34.17 | VeNoMouS_ | yea |
| 22:34.41 | Strom_C | VeNoMouS_, show me the relevant section of your sip.conf |
| 22:34.44 | Heimidal | Cybertoy: the line in sip.conf is right and it's still showing the IP at the end |
| 22:34.49 | Cybertoy | (05:26:03 PM) VeNoMouS_: Mar 27 10:24:42 WARNING[2814]: chan_sip.c:1973 create_addr: No such host: 099705586 .... that's the error you get? |
| 22:34.50 | Heimidal | it's tacking it on no matter what |
| 22:34.53 | VeNoMouS_ | yea |
| 22:35.21 | Cybertoy | can you cut&paste your config to pastebin.ca ? |
| 22:35.21 | VeNoMouS_ | yea[099705586] |
| 22:35.22 | VeNoMouS_ | context=customer |
| 22:35.22 | VeNoMouS_ | type=friend |
| 22:35.22 | VeNoMouS_ | host=dynamic |
| 22:35.22 | VeNoMouS_ | nat=yes |
| 22:35.22 | VeNoMouS_ | secret=123454321 |
| 22:35.24 | VeNoMouS_ | callerid=Clint <099705586> |
| 22:35.26 | VeNoMouS_ | canreinvite=yes |
| 22:35.28 | VeNoMouS_ | mailbox=099705586 |
| 22:35.44 | Cybertoy | sip show peers ... |
| 22:35.47 | Cybertoy | what do you get? |
| 22:36.04 | VeNoMouS_ | 38 |
| 22:36.19 | *** part/#asterisk fjean (n=fjean@201009208229.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 22:36.23 | VeNoMouS_ | 099705586 (Unspecified) D N 0 Unmonitored |
| 22:36.35 | Cybertoy | it's not registered |
| 22:36.47 | Cybertoy | Unspecified should show the IP address instead. |
| 22:36.55 | *** join/#asterisk glm2k (n=glm@rrcs-24-199-11-46.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:37.32 | VeNoMouS_ | yea restarted |
| 22:37.33 | VeNoMouS_ | is now |
| 22:37.35 | VeNoMouS_ | lets test |
| 22:37.44 | VeNoMouS_ | working |
| 22:37.45 | VeNoMouS_ | chur |
| 22:40.12 | brookshire | qwell: josh and i still need to make drunkcodercam |
| 22:42.29 | VeNoMouS_ | hrm eye beam video dont seem to like asterisk video |
| 22:42.30 | VeNoMouS_ | heh |
| 22:42.40 | VeNoMouS_ | h263 isnt matching |
| 22:42.57 | *** join/#asterisk oej (n=oej@gateway.digium.com) |
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| 22:43.10 | Cybertoy | venomous, I haven't been successful with any video either... |
| 22:43.17 | Cybertoy | but I think it's related to my NAT setup etc. |
| 22:44.16 | *** join/#asterisk SpaceBass (n=SpaceBas@static-71-251-230-2.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:44.20 | SpaceBass | hey folks |
| 22:44.26 | Strom_C | harro |
| 22:44.38 | SpaceBass | anyone know if those new linksys wifi sip phones actually exist? |
| 22:44.49 | Qwell | brookshire: indeed |
| 22:44.57 | Qwell | brookshire: Why are you not currently on markocam? |
| 22:44.58 | SpaceBass | voipsupply.com seems to be the only ones taking orders and they are backordered |
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| 22:45.48 | *** join/#asterisk Eggplant (i=No@6.193.217.216.cascadeaccess.com) |
| 22:46.01 | Strom_C | SpaceBass, no, obviously it's an evil ploy by voipsupply.com to take all of your money |
| 22:46.32 | SpaceBass | I KNEW IT! |
| 22:46.52 | SpaceBass | i guess whaqt I meant is: is anyone actually shipping them now? |
| 22:47.11 | Qwell | They exist, and they're pretty sweet |
| 22:47.24 | SpaceBass | really? |
| 22:47.25 | Qwell | somebody was loaned one briefly, at VON |
| 22:47.35 | SpaceBass | spacy needy |
| 22:47.37 | Qwell | it has a really cool joystick thing on it, for navigation |
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| 22:47.49 | SpaceBass | oops...flight boarding...gotta run |
| 22:48.02 | Qwell | I don't think he could really test the wifi capabilities, since there were wifi vendors hammering the spectrum |
| 22:48.11 | Qwell | but yeah, it was pretty slick |
| 22:49.27 | RoyK | ~seen zoa |
| 22:49.31 | jbot | zoa <n=kkk@pirus.securax.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 11d 6h 6m 14s ago, saying: 'it looks kinda suspicious :p'. |
| 22:49.42 | RoyK | fuck him |
| 22:50.35 | x86 | Qwell: ? |
| 22:51.00 | x86 | [16:03] Qwellx86? |
| 22:51.11 | RoyK | x86: ? |
| 22:51.23 | x86 | like 47 minutes ago he said my name |
| 22:51.35 | x86 | ah |
| 22:51.39 | russellb | believe it or not he could have been talking about the architecture |
| 22:51.46 | RoyK | good movie |
| 22:51.48 | x86 | someone was asking about using RealTime |
| 22:52.01 | x86 | RoyK: yeah i seen it last week... it kicked ass :P |
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| 22:52.44 | RoyK | it was quite a bit apart from the cartoon, though |
| 22:53.23 | x86 | RoyK: the part at the end where he takes on like 15 cops isn't very realistic... although he was wearing armour to protect his chest, i'm sure one of the 15 automatic weapons being fired at him would put at least a couple rounds in his brain lol |
| 22:53.59 | RoyK | the original cartoon has quite another ending |
| 22:54.19 | x86 | i didnt even know there was a cartoon ;) |
| 22:54.53 | RoyK | the original |
| 22:54.59 | RoyK | written by alan moor |
| 22:55.02 | RoyK | moore |
| 22:55.33 | RoyK | quite inspired by 1984 |
| 22:55.36 | RoyK | the book |
| 22:55.54 | RoyK | it came out around 1987 or so |
| 22:56.05 | RoyK | in the cartoon, the story is set to 1997 |
| 22:56.05 | VeNoMouS_ | Mar 27 10:55:45 NOTICE[2945]: rtp.c:564 ast_rtp_read: Unknown RTP codec 127 received |
| 22:56.11 | VeNoMouS_ | ^^ for h263 |
| 22:56.23 | VeNoMouS_ | but h263 is installed in asterisk |
| 22:56.35 | RoyK | wtf? isn't this a movies channel? |
| 22:56.42 | VeNoMouS_ | video streaming |
| 22:58.38 | x86 | RoyK: haha |
| 22:58.42 | RoyK | :) |
| 22:58.58 | x86 | RoyK: yeah, if you notice in the new one, they make a couple mistakes regarding the year |
| 22:59.15 | RoyK | rewrites, not mistakes |
| 22:59.26 | x86 | RoyK: no, mistakes... |
| 22:59.34 | RoyK | how so? |
| 22:59.44 | x86 | RoyK: one time they clearly say "1915" instead of "2015" |
| 23:00.03 | RoyK | where was this? |
| 23:00.04 | x86 | there were a couple others too |
| 23:00.34 | x86 | when he was telling the stories about the lesbian that got taken to the torture chambers and wrote the letter |
| 23:00.49 | RoyK | ah |
| 23:00.54 | RoyK | btw |
| 23:01.51 | RoyK | the new bishop of oslo has recently pronounced that homosexuals should be given treatment for their ways, as to make them heterosexual |
| 23:01.57 | RoyK | sick bastard |
| 23:01.58 | x86 | i'm maticulous about details ;) |
| 23:02.02 | *** join/#asterisk Dr-Linux (n=Linux@host202-147-168-130.lhr.dancom.net.pk) |
| 23:02.16 | x86 | RoyK: hahaha |
| 23:02.37 | x86 | what are the going to treat them with? |
| 23:02.47 | x86 | Dr-Linux: hey man :) |
| 23:03.07 | x86 | Dr-Linux: seen PakiPenguin lately? |
| 23:03.24 | Dr-Linux | x86: hey, |
| 23:03.31 | RoyK | we're in 2006 and someone are sick enought to believe homosexuality is a decsiese |
| 23:03.33 | Dr-Linux | x86: nops sorry |
| 23:03.47 | RoyK | htf do you spell that :P |
| 23:03.48 | Dr-Linux | ohh :O |
| 23:03.52 | x86 | RoyK: disease |
| 23:04.06 | x86 | RoyK: it's the religious right man ;) |
| 23:04.16 | RoyK | yeah |
| 23:04.16 | x86 | reicht too ;) |
| 23:04.19 | RoyK | idiots |
| 23:04.30 | x86 | (note the pun) |
| 23:04.50 | RoyK | All Good Men Are Christian Heterosexuals |
| 23:05.00 | x86 | to each their own, as long as they dont force their beliefs and "other" things on me heh |
| 23:05.03 | RoyK | All Bad People Are The Others |
| 23:05.41 | x86 | you know what's ironic though.... these homosexual christian churches lol |
| 23:05.54 | Dr-Linux | should not be religions chat over here :S |
| 23:06.14 | x86 | Dr-Linux: it's not, really |
| 23:06.33 | RoyK | Dr-Linux: still fighting cartoons? |
| 23:06.59 | x86 | Dr-Linux: it's more like a disgust with human trash in high positions that broadcast falsities to their peers |
| 23:07.10 | Dr-Linux | RoyK: yep, |
| 23:07.13 | Luke-Jr | Lines 776 and 777 (the two build_step lines) in pbx/pbx_ael.c are reversed |
| 23:07.22 | *** join/#asterisk nettie (i=esivieri@85-18-54-38.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 23:07.32 | Heimidal | does Asterisk come with any onhold music by default? |
| 23:07.34 | x86 | Dr-Linux: what were the cartoons about anyway? |
| 23:08.07 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: yes |
| 23:08.09 | Dr-Linux | x86: being a Muslim i won't spead these cartoon stuff |
| 23:08.14 | Dr-Linux | with talk |
| 23:08.26 | x86 | Dr-Linux: all i know is it had something to do with mohommed (spelling?).. |
| 23:08.28 | Dr-Linux | so better leave it, or go on web |
| 23:08.35 | x86 | ok |
| 23:08.41 | Heimidal | what's the filename? |
| 23:08.47 | Dr-Linux | x86: yes, you are right |
| 23:09.01 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: shrug, ask your package manager |
| 23:09.03 | Dr-Linux | Mohammad PBUP |
| 23:09.07 | Dr-Linux | PBUH |
| 23:09.11 | nettie | Hi guys, anyone know why moh seems to work reading the console verbose messages but no audio is actually played? mpg123 clean;y starts with asterisk and and mp3 file has a bitrate of 128kbit. Any idea please? thanx in advance |
| 23:09.55 | Dr-Linux | :S |
| 23:10.04 | RoyK | hehe |
| 23:10.05 | RoyK | Luke-Jrhomosexuality, like any perversity, is a problem |
| 23:10.30 | RoyK | i do not know from what world this Luke-Jr |
| 23:10.35 | RoyK | is |
| 23:10.45 | RoyK | but i do not like to visit that planet |
| 23:10.54 | Luke-Jr | RoyK: as is lustful 'heterosexuality' also a problem, but this is all off-topic in #asterisk |
| 23:11.01 | Dr-Linux | whos Luke jr? |
| 23:11.31 | Dr-Linux | what is heterosexuality? |
| 23:11.45 | x86 | Dr-Linux: hetero- means you like women |
| 23:11.53 | RoyK | Dr-Linux: you might find out one day :) |
| 23:11.58 | x86 | Dr-Linux: homo- means you like men |
| 23:12.00 | Luke-Jr | now, back on topic... anyone want to fix AEL? =p |
| 23:12.10 | RoyK | homo == likewise |
| 23:12.14 | Dr-Linux | ooooo ic |
| 23:12.21 | RoyK | hetero == different |
| 23:12.30 | RoyK | old latin |
| 23:12.45 | Luke-Jr | lust ~= wanting sex only for pleasure |
| 23:12.46 | Dr-Linux | i thought heterosexuality mean, when you do Sex in heter room :S |
| 23:13.12 | RoyK | Luke-Jr: no, lust == want, will do |
| 23:13.13 | Dr-Linux | and homosexuality i thoughs, its when you do sex at your home, like incist stuff :S |
| 23:13.26 | Strom_C | that's quite amusing |
| 23:13.27 | RoyK | no |
| 23:13.48 | RoyK | Dr-Linux: homosexuality is just two people of the same gender having fun |
| 23:13.59 | Dr-Linux | ooo |
| 23:14.08 | Dr-Linux | like gays and lesbians |
| 23:14.09 | Dr-Linux | right? |
| 23:14.13 | RoyK | yes |
| 23:14.22 | RoyK | which, imho is just fine |
| 23:14.24 | Sedorox | homo = same, hetero = different |
| 23:14.29 | Luke-Jr | it is perverted and unnatural |
| 23:14.31 | Dr-Linux | we have less trends for lesbian here |
| 23:14.31 | Sedorox | (to its basic extent) |
| 23:14.44 | RoyK | Sedorox: exactly |
| 23:14.47 | Dr-Linux | but in some areas gays exist |
| 23:15.32 | RoyK | Dr-Linux: they exist anywhere, only perhaps the culture doesn't allow them to show themselves |
| 23:15.33 | *** part/#asterisk Cybertoy (n=maxim@dsl254-123-241.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 23:15.38 | Dr-Linux | i heard once in the US, someone governor allowed that a man can get married with a man :S |
| 23:15.54 | Dr-Linux | RoyK: yep you are right |
| 23:15.57 | Luke-Jr | which is contradictatory, just like divorce is |
| 23:16.02 | Luke-Jr | men cannot marry men |
| 23:16.09 | RoyK | Dr-Linux: that is allowed in all civiliced parts of the world |
| 23:16.13 | Luke-Jr | it is self-contradicting |
| 23:16.19 | Luke-Jr | RoyK: you mean evil parts of the world |
| 23:16.22 | Heimidal | Luke-Jr: uh.. if it's unnatural, why are so many gay? you think they're choosing it? |
| 23:16.23 | Dr-Linux | that's bad |
| 23:16.32 | RoyK | Luke-Jr: no, civiliced |
| 23:16.45 | Strom_C | Luke-Jr, being a preachy self-righteous asshole is also a bad thing, yet you seem to be preachy and self-righteous at this very moment! |
| 23:16.51 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: all sin is chosen |
| 23:16.52 | Heimidal | haha |
| 23:16.52 | Dr-Linux | i'm not sure how a normal guy bcomes a GAY :S |
| 23:16.54 | RoyK | Luke-Jr: the evil parts kill people for their thoughts |
| 23:17.06 | Sedorox | ahhhh.... and now we get into the debate that always happens... yet.. never gets anywhere :p |
| 23:17.12 | *** join/#asterisk weinerk (n=irc@88.152.252.9) |
| 23:17.30 | Luke-Jr | RoyK: that is a different evil |
| 23:17.42 | Dr-Linux | RoyK: what you say about incist? |
| 23:17.44 | RoyK | Luke-Jr: excuse me??? |
| 23:17.49 | Dr-Linux | i don't know how to spell |
| 23:17.49 | Heimidal | Luke-Jr: you're insane. what person in their right mind would CHOOSE to be ridiculed? I spent three years trying to force myself to be different. I don't go around sleeping with every other gay guy I see, so how can you call it a "choice"? |
| 23:17.55 | Luke-Jr | Dr-Linux: usually lust comes first |
| 23:18.01 | RoyK | Dr-Linux: not releated to gender |
| 23:18.03 | Strom_C | Luke-Jr, I think we'd all appreciate it if you shut your judgmental self-righteous piehole |
| 23:18.14 | Dr-Linux | :S |
| 23:18.16 | Sedorox | hrm |
| 23:18.33 | Sedorox | how about that TDM? huh? always good tdm.... |
| 23:18.36 | Sedorox | :> |
| 23:18.56 | Luke-Jr | Strom_C: hey, I started keeping stuff on-topic here. RoyK insisted on bringing OT discussion to the Asterisk channel. |
| 23:19.18 | Dr-Linux | :S |
| 23:19.18 | Luke-Jr | Sedorox: do you have CVS access? |
| 23:19.21 | Strom_C | yeah, but I'm bagging on you because you seem to be the preachy jerl of the group :) |
| 23:19.26 | Strom_C | er, jerk |
| 23:19.39 | Sedorox | nope.. I have no access at all.. just a asterisk user :p (can't stand programming actually) |
| 23:19.41 | Luke-Jr | Strom_C: I'm just speaking the truth. |
| 23:19.51 | Strom_C | take your truth and shove it up your ass |
| 23:19.58 | Luke-Jr | there is only one truth |
| 23:20.00 | Dr-Linux | Luke-Jr: that's all truth or you just trying? :S |
| 23:20.10 | Luke-Jr | now shut up with the OT and let's fix * =p |
| 23:20.15 | Dr-Linux | Strom_C: lolz |
| 23:20.21 | Sedorox | everyone believe's there is only one truth.. their own.. so yea.... anyway |
| 23:20.26 | Heimidal | Luke-Jr: what you call "truth", most intelligent people would call "bullshit," as you have _no_ basis for your idealogy other than some book. |
| 23:20.27 | Luke-Jr | as I was saying before |
| 23:20.50 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: or maybe you're just choosing to be ignorant to the fact that all reality backs it |
| 23:20.56 | Luke-Jr | as I was saying before! |
| 23:20.56 | Luke-Jr | Lines 776 and 777 (the two build_step lines) in pbx/pbx_ael.c are reversed |
| 23:21.01 | Heimidal | Luke-Jr: ... right. |
| 23:21.24 | Strom_C | I think Luke-Jr is just deeply in the closet :) |
| 23:21.41 | Heimidal | Strom_C: tends to be the case for most homophobic people ;) |
| 23:21.44 | Strom_C | yep |
| 23:21.50 | Dr-Linux | ~EAGI |
| 23:21.52 | jbot | rumour has it, eagi is Enhanced Application Gateway Interface which gives the application the possibility to access and control the sound channel in addition to interaction with the dial plan |
| 23:21.57 | Heimidal | lord knows I've dated two guys who talked just like him in public |
| 23:22.06 | Luke-Jr | moving line 776 to 777 and vice-versa will cause for-loops to execute the post-iterate step after the iteration (as it should be) |
| 23:22.20 | Strom_C | Heimidal, ouch |
| 23:22.30 | Heimidal | Strom_C: I was an idiot in high school :P |
| 23:22.34 | Strom_C | heh |
| 23:22.52 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: recognizing pervertedness as such is not fear |
| 23:23.12 | Heimidal | and if a gay man started hitting on you, how would you react? |
| 23:23.24 | Strom_C | Luke-Jr, possibly not, but passing judgment on others is generally a bad thing :) |
| 23:23.39 | Heimidal | especially if he's following the Bible :) |
| 23:23.46 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: probably teach him how he was wrong, and if he rejected it, probably would treat him the same as I'd treat most heretics |
| 23:24.03 | Heimidal | riiiiight |
| 23:24.06 | Strom_C | leave the judgment to God, Luke-Jr, and treat your fellow human with respect, heretic or not |
| 23:24.10 | Luke-Jr | and the Bible says gay men get burned with fire and brimstone |
| 23:24.14 | Heimidal | hahaha |
| 23:24.36 | Strom_C | jeez, and I thought leather was fun! |
| 23:24.38 | Luke-Jr | Strom_C: God has judged, and given us His judgement. |
| 23:24.52 | Strom_C | Luke-Jr, exactly...so why do you have to judge others again? |
| 23:24.53 | Dr-Linux | Luke-Jr: yes, all Holy books say that about gays |
| 23:25.06 | Heimidal | you should read your Bible. If you're wearing mixed-fiber clothing, you'll burn just as bad as a gay man. |
| 23:25.10 | Luke-Jr | Strom_C: I don't. I just pass on God's judgement of such. |
| 23:25.41 | Dr-Linux | is Bible same for Christians and Catholics? :S |
| 23:25.55 | Strom_C | Luke-Jr, how do you know that you're not distorting things somehow? How can you be absolutely certain that you're passing it on without any modification whatsoever? |
| 23:25.58 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: the Bible's primary purpose is to lead one to the Church, not to give laws. |
| 23:26.15 | *** part/#asterisk Sedorox (n=penbra67@smartserv/cna/Sedorox) |
| 23:26.30 | Heimidal | Luke-Jr: then stop using it to pass judgement on people when the Bible explicitly tells you not to judge unless you intend to be judged more harshly for doing so |
| 23:26.44 | Luke-Jr | Strom_C: The understanding is the same as has been since Christ started the Church. |
| 23:27.03 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: I expect to be judged harshly. I don't have a problem with that. |
| 23:27.09 | Dr-Linux | :S |
| 23:27.19 | Heimidal | Luke-Jr: the Bible, in its current form, has been transcribed and translated into tens of thousands of different versions.... |
| 23:27.22 | Luke-Jr | I know I do my best to know and love the truth |
| 23:27.40 | Strom_C | <God> Oh, I'm sorry...the correct answer was "Judaism" |
| 23:27.48 | Dr-Linux | Heimidal: but not Quran |
| 23:27.54 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: of which the original texts are infallible, and the Vulgate is the best translation |
| 23:28.20 | Dr-Linux | Strom_C: whats Judaism? |
| 23:28.32 | Strom_C | Dr-Linux, go read an encyclopedia please :) |
| 23:28.33 | Heimidal | it's people like you that have made this world so damn difficult to live in. |
| 23:28.49 | Luke-Jr | Dr-Linux: Neo-Judaism is the remnant of Judaism that rejects the fulfilment of its covenant 2000 years ago |
| 23:28.56 | Heimidal | Luke-Jr: what religion are you? |
| 23:28.57 | Dr-Linux | Strom_C: i can't reas that kind difficult english, sorry |
| 23:29.10 | Strom_C | Luke-Jr, see, again with the judgmentalism |
| 23:29.30 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: Catholic, and not just in name only |
| 23:29.33 | Dr-Linux | remant? |
| 23:29.43 | Dr-Linux | sorry i don't understand |
| 23:29.45 | Luke-Jr | Dr-Linux: remnant is like remainder |
| 23:29.49 | Luke-Jr | what's left over |
| 23:29.54 | Strom_C | Heimidal, ah, now we know why he feels the need to shame others. He was abused by a priest as a boy :) |
| 23:29.56 | Dr-Linux | oo ic |
| 23:30.06 | Luke-Jr | Strom_C: I'm a convert |
| 23:30.15 | Strom_C | ok, as a teenager then :) |
| 23:30.26 | Dr-Linux | Christains and Catholics believs are same? |
| 23:30.26 | Luke-Jr | nor do Catholic priests abuse people |
| 23:30.34 | Luke-Jr | Christian means Catholic |
| 23:30.37 | Heimidal | Luke-Jr: so all of the Protestant religions are wrong? |
| 23:30.46 | Heimidal | Christian does NOT mean Catholic |
| 23:30.49 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: all heretics deny a revealed truth, yes |
| 23:31.45 | Dr-Linux | Christains and Catholics believs are same? or not same? :S |
| 23:32.00 | Dr-Linux | who has Bible both of them? : |
| 23:32.03 | Luke-Jr | Dr-Linux: "Christian" and "Catholic" rightly refer to the same thing |
| 23:32.14 | Heimidal | uh.. where in the Bible is the Pope given position at the top of the church? |
| 23:32.16 | Luke-Jr | Dr-Linux: The Catholic Church chose the canon of the Bible |
| 23:32.58 | Strom_C | Dr-Linux, There are many different religions which claim to be "Christian" - Catholocism, and the host of Protestant religions. Each believes that they are the true Christians and that everyone else is a heretic. |
| 23:33.00 | Heimidal | Dr-Linux: the Catholic version of the Bible has a few extra books |
| 23:33.18 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: the best-known is Matt. 16:18 |
| 23:33.34 | Dr-Linux | i heared, Catholics man/woman never can get marriage again after divorce, untill his X hubby/wife alive |
| 23:33.37 | Dr-Linux | is that right? |
| 23:33.54 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: Dr-Linux: no, protestants discard certain books of the Bible in order to try and justify their heresies |
| 23:34.17 | Luke-Jr | Dr-Linux: divorce is impossible, as it is a contradiction |
| 23:34.23 | Heimidal | Luke-Jr: that described Peter, a disciple of Jesus. It does not instantiate a position called "Pope", nor does it place him at the TOP of the church. All it does is reference Peter as the foundation of the original Christian church. |
| 23:34.25 | Luke-Jr | Dr-Linux: marriage is ended only by death |
| 23:34.32 | Dr-Linux | Heimidal: Catholic version? who was inspired for this book? :S |
| 23:34.43 | Dr-Linux | Not Jesus? |
| 23:34.52 | Luke-Jr | Dr-Linux: Jesus started the Catholic Church |
| 23:35.15 | Luke-Jr | Heimidal: http://scripturecatholic.com/primacy_of_peter.html |
| 23:35.47 | Dr-Linux | Luke-Jr: all i read in Quran, there was book, that was on Jesus from GOD |
| 23:35.49 | Heimidal | Luke-Jr: I want _literal_ definition on the Pope FROM the Bible. without it, it's not canon, and you're all lunatics. |
| 23:36.05 | Dr-Linux | then whose human, who changed it to different versions? :S |
| 23:36.11 | Heimidal | assumed inferences are NOT canon, are you're an idiot to think so |
| 23:36.33 | Luke-Jr | Dr-Linux: Martin Luther removed parts of the Bible, making a "Protestant version" |
| 23:36.36 | VeNoMouS_ | it seems eyebeam ave changed all there h263 shit again, time to write a new patch for asterisk |
| 23:36.48 | justinu | if jesus needed an IP phone, which would he choose? |
| 23:37.02 | Strom_C | Jesus would choose a Cisco |
| 23:37.03 | Dr-Linux | as Muslim believes, Quran has never changed even a DOT, and God took it's responsiblity by HIMself, written in Quran |
| 23:37.15 | Luke-Jr | justinu: He'd probably get fed up with the options and say "Let there be a good IP phone" |
| 23:37.23 | justinu | i don't think jesus could afford a cisco |
| 23:37.40 | VeNoMouS_ | get one off ebay |
| 23:37.41 | Luke-Jr | Dr-Linux: the Bible has never changed, except for non-Catholics |
| 23:37.43 | Dr-Linux | justinu: :S |
| 23:37.51 | VeNoMouS_ | justinu hell buy a 7912 |
| 23:37.53 | justinu | the bible never changed, lol |
| 23:37.56 | VeNoMouS_ | they small ugly and cheap |
| 23:38.00 | VeNoMouS_ | but least its cisco |
| 23:38.12 | Dr-Linux | justinu: who jesus you talking about? :S |
| 23:38.19 | justinu | i think jesus would work a miracle and make the gxp2000 sound as good as a polycom |
| 23:38.40 | Luke-Jr | justinu: do you have CVS access? |
| 23:38.47 | Dr-Linux | :S |
| 23:38.57 | Strom_C | there haven't been any true miracles since Splenda |
| 23:39.17 | justinu | xylitol is the next miracle |
| 23:39.23 | Dr-Linux | justinu: i'm waiting, come to Tribals by next month on my Nikkah :) |
| 23:39.29 | justinu | heheh |
| 23:39.37 | justinu | i just bought wedding bands today |
| 23:40.32 | Luke-Jr | Lines 776 and 777 (the two build_step lines) in pbx/pbx_ael.c are reversed |
| 23:40.32 | Luke-Jr | moving line 776 to 777 and vice-versa will cause for-loops to execute the post-iterate step after the iteration (as it should be) |
| 23:40.56 | Strom_C | Luke-Jr, there's an #asterisk-devel you should be kvetching about this in |
| 23:41.06 | Luke-Jr | Strom_C: is there? o.o |
| 23:41.12 | justinu | Dr-Linux: i need my own gulfstream jet... tired of flying commercial arirlines |
| 23:41.30 | Strom_C | #asterisk-dev |
| 23:41.30 | Strom_C | yes |
| 23:41.50 | Strom_C | it's right there in Voip 23:68 |
| 23:44.43 | tsume | voip 23:68? is there some telecommunication bible and religion I don't know about? |
| 23:44.46 | SplasPood | Anyone mind giving me a hand with a IAX + queues question? |
| 23:44.47 | [av]bani | sip 13:37 |
| 23:45.03 | Strom_C | tsume, yes, it's the Holy Church of Our Mother of the Bell |
| 23:45.12 | tsume | Strom_C: hah! |
| 23:45.43 | Strom_C | tsume, listen to this |
| 23:45.44 | Strom_C | http://www.wideweb.com/phonetrips/revbernay.ram |
| 23:48.47 | Strom_C | all of our prayers end with the holy phrase "this is a recording" |
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| 23:56.38 | Strom_C | catsex |
| 23:56.45 | justinu | meow |
| 23:56.49 | tsume | dogsex is much more better |
| 23:57.03 | tsume | much warmer inside pussy ;) |
| 23:57.14 | tsume | and for the people who like anal.. theres a knot ;) |
| 23:57.21 | justinu | lol, sick |
| 23:57.33 | Luke-Jr | justinu: no sicker than homo |
| 23:57.45 | Strom_C | Luke-Jr, PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY |
| 23:57.51 | justinu | lol |
| 23:58.07 | tsume | gay doesn't neccesarily mean anal sex |
| 23:58.13 | Luke-Jr | /ignore Strom_C for being ignorant |
| 23:58.23 | tsume | it means a relationship. Us Heteros love anal sex as well you know ;) |
| 23:58.28 | Luke-Jr | tsume: I don't think anyone was referring to just the anal part |
| 23:58.39 | Luke-Jr | anal sex is evil |
| 23:58.50 | tsume | Luke-Jr: only when you don't use enough lube ;) |
| 23:58.55 | Luke-Jr | tsume: in general |
| 23:58.56 | Strom_C | haha |
| 23:59.01 | Vco | or franks hot sauce |
| 23:59.05 | Luke-Jr | it's no less evil than homosex |
| 23:59.11 | tsume | a woman with a big strapon, oh yea! :D |
