| 00:02.27 | *** join/#asterisk justinu|laptop (n=Justin@dsl081-083-093.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 00:08.28 | *** join/#asterisk jeebusroxors (n=jeebusro@29palms-cuda1-68-170-36-65.losaca.adelphia.net) |
| 00:14.08 | *** join/#asterisk sterfablod (n=sterfabl@m815f36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 00:14.37 | sterfablod | any recommendations for asterisk billing apps? |
| 00:18.29 | *** join/#asterisk TUplink (n=Tommy@68-232-82-147.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 00:18.48 | TUplink | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.03 | sterfablod | probably means your IP is not trusted by the peer |
| 00:20.03 | lilo | hehe eek 8) |
| 00:20.38 | sterfablod | or bad password |
| 00:21.37 | TUplink | how can i make asterisk respond to a call as bussy |
| 00:22.11 | Darwin35 | ? |
| 00:22.22 | sterfablod | TUplink, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+Busy |
| 00:25.49 | sevard | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index. |
| 00:25.58 | sevard | php?page=Asterisk+-+documentation+of+application+commands |
| 00:25.59 | sevard | shite |
| 00:27.47 | Nivex | I have a Cisco 7960, and I'm trying to figure if it is possible to set the name on the display when I dial a number. |
| 00:28.32 | asterboy | Anyone load bitmap graphics into a Polycom? |
| 00:29.28 | Darwin35 | polycom sucks |
| 00:29.37 | Darwin35 | imho |
| 00:30.23 | asterboy | cisco sucks |
| 00:30.27 | asterboy | imho |
| 00:30.28 | Nivex | Asterisk sucks! |
| 00:30.30 | asterboy | :P |
| 00:30.39 | asterboy | linux sucks! |
| 00:30.42 | Nivex | now that we've gotten that out of our systems |
| 00:30.53 | asterboy | a lot of sucking going on. |
| 00:30.57 | sevard | lulz |
| 00:31.00 | asterboy | brokeback asterisk |
| 00:31.04 | sevard | ouch. |
| 00:31.44 | asterboy | filmed right here in alberta. |
| 00:32.38 | Darwin35 | windows sux |
| 00:32.54 | Darwin35 | Long live BSD |
| 00:33.06 | sevard | bsd ;/ |
| 00:33.13 | *** join/#asterisk sulex (n=sulex@pdpc/supporter/active/sulex) |
| 00:34.21 | *** join/#asterisk justinu|laptop (n=Justin@dsl081-083-093.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 00:34.28 | asterboy | HURD! |
| 00:37.41 | hwt | asterisk is pretty robust right now. |
| 00:38.03 | hwt | we're running a setup with SER and asterisk for 20K customers. |
| 00:38.40 | tzanger | holy fuck |
| 00:38.43 | tzanger | 20k customers? |
| 00:39.01 | tzanger | brokeback asterisk, haha |
| 00:39.34 | Sedorox | 0_o |
| 00:39.35 | hwt | yup. SER as sip proxy, asterisk for vm, ivr and pstn gateway. |
| 00:40.25 | Darwin35 | what database ? |
| 00:40.32 | hwt | Darwin35: mysql. |
| 00:40.52 | Darwin35 | doing realtime |
| 00:41.06 | hwt | we're also moving towards vm's in mysql blobs instead of files. |
| 00:41.09 | tzanger | hwt you need to reply to that douglas guy on -users constantly bitching about how unstable and unusable asterisk is |
| 00:41.14 | gaupe | I guess just sitting back and for asterisk to stabilize is a good solution ;) |
| 00:41.31 | hwt | gaupe: :) |
| 00:41.37 | gaupe | :) |
| 00:41.49 | Darwin35 | I have found mysql has a memleak |
| 00:41.56 | Darwin35 | in realtiime |
| 00:41.57 | gaupe | hwt: are you doing PSTN-termination now? |
| 00:42.08 | TUplink | dose any one here use TelaSIP? |
| 00:42.11 | hwt | gaupe: still song via sip. :/ |
| 00:42.32 | gaupe | yes, so that's not PSTN-termination :) |
| 00:43.34 | hwt | gaupe: you're right. ss7 isn't gonna happen anyway. |
| 00:44.05 | Darwin35 | anyoone have a answer for e911 |
| 00:44.48 | gaupe | hwt: just commenting on it, since that would introduce quite som complexity and scalability issues |
| 00:45.36 | hwt | gaupe: yup. |
| 00:45.45 | Darwin35 | sangooma cards rock |
| 00:46.25 | russellb | hwt: it's always nice to hear from happy users |
| 00:46.34 | russellb | I usually only get to hear from the ones having problems, heh |
| 00:46.48 | sterfablod | hwt, what do you use for billing? |
| 00:47.51 | hwt | sterfablod: we're getting cdr strems from our upstream provider thus far. |
| 00:49.15 | tsume | lilo: you are so high maintaince :) |
| 00:58.18 | tzanger | russellb: :-) |
| 00:58.48 | russellb | tzanger: like garstang or whatever :) |
| 00:59.59 | russellb | the users list would probably make my head explode |
| 01:00.32 | *** part/#asterisk Defraz (n=t0tal@fw.centrisys.com) |
| 01:02.00 | TUplink | Got SIP response 603 "Decline" back from x.x.x.x any help |
| 01:03.30 | shido6 | your device said., "I don wanna!" |
| 01:04.48 | ComputerWarm | who has unlimited calling and would help me test receiving faxes ? |
| 01:05.22 | *** join/#asterisk in-side (n=inside@es-217-129-30-48.netvisao.pt) |
| 01:05.24 | in-side | Hi |
| 01:05.34 | tzanger | teh shido |
| 01:05.36 | tzanger | how goes, shido6? |
| 01:05.38 | tzanger | long time |
| 01:05.41 | in-side | I'm having a problem here and I would like to know if the problem is on asterisk |
| 01:05.53 | tzanger | in-side: the answer is "of course not." |
| 01:05.54 | russellb | in-side: sorry, Asterisk is perfect |
| 01:06.14 | in-side | how does asterisk supports this: Replaces:a38441af-b9b5465d@172.30.20.7;from-tag=de395987b9f35065o0;to-tag=as4b4ffb76. |
| 01:06.30 | in-side | this is related to refer and call transfer |
| 01:06.34 | tzanger | in-side: it looks like you just had a siezure over the keyboard, are you alright? |
| 01:06.34 | tsume | ahhh.. the reason not to ever pay slashdot |
| 01:06.41 | shido6 | tzanger im in love with my hacked up mac |
| 01:06.49 | tzanger | tsume: amen. You just totally avoid it on 04/01 |
| 01:06.54 | tzanger | shido6: hacked up how? |
| 01:07.04 | in-side | it seems asterisk is not getting related the two transactions |
| 01:07.12 | russellb | for some reason slashdot annoys me on normal days. |
| 01:07.24 | tzanger | I have a hacked-up x86 version of osx and it's kind of nifty, I might have to buy a Mac Mini |
| 01:07.41 | in-side | should I report it as a bug? |
| 01:07.53 | tsume | russellb: well its full of kiddies, what do you expect? |
| 01:08.06 | in-side | asterisk is reply me 404 for futhers transactions |
| 01:08.19 | in-side | or with 501 :( |
| 01:08.38 | in-side | seems it isn't getting a match |
| 01:09.00 | in-side | problem only occurs in some calls in a random way |
| 01:09.12 | tsume | tzanger: the 10.4.5? |
| 01:09.27 | tmccrary | OMG PONEYS |
| 01:09.28 | in-side | thanks for complete ignore ... |
| 01:09.37 | tmccrary | THEY ARE LITTLE SUSHIS |
| 01:09.46 | tsume | I love ignore |
| 01:10.04 | in-side | and I love americans... |
| 01:10.08 | tzanger | tsume: no, an older version. I have only powered it up about 3 times just out of curiosity |
| 01:10.21 | tmccrary | We love you too, in-side |
| 01:10.23 | russellb | in-side: i have no idea. that's a complicated problem and it would take a while to analyze the SIP trace and the code to figure out what is going on |
| 01:10.28 | tsume | yes, we americans rock. e have the best weapons and armor which was develolped at MIT :) |
| 01:10.41 | tmccrary | yes, we also have THE BOMB |
| 01:10.45 | russellb | i would recommend throwing the trace on to the users list and see if you can get someone to help you analyze it |
| 01:10.46 | tsume | tzanger: maxxuss is a cool guy. |
| 01:10.50 | in-side | russellb: yes it is very strange indeed |
| 01:11.17 | in-side | seems that asterisk is doing a poor job with refer / transfer stuff in last versions |
| 01:11.17 | tzanger | in-side: you need to learn how to relax. seriously. nobody's ignoring you. This is a busy, big channel. Give at least 10 minutes beofre repeating a request, and remember that everyone and I mean EVERYONE here is here on their own choice; if you want help the quickest way to kill your chances is to bitch about not getting TOTAL CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. |
| 01:11.20 | in-side | from 1.2 on |
| 01:11.25 | tmccrary | in-side, what version of Asterisk are you using? Also, have you checked the bugzilla for a similar error? |
| 01:11.27 | tzanger | tsume: you know him?> |
| 01:11.34 | in-side | 1.2.4 |
| 01:11.34 | tsume | tzanger: only via irc :) |
| 01:12.05 | tsume | tzanger: I thought about buying a new x86 book to install the macosx x86 on. |
| 01:12.15 | in-side | all versions from 1.2 on |
| 01:12.16 | tzanger | tsume: that's close enough :-) I am definitely not in "the scene" -- just got a copy of the iso and played with it a little |
| 01:12.20 | tsume | tzanger: its cheaper, but you must make sure you get the right graphics card. |
| 01:12.24 | in-side | seems to be affected |
| 01:12.38 | tzanger | tsume: I'll buy a real intel mac if I choose to make a go of it... but yes it does seem very nice |
| 01:12.48 | tsume | tzanger: I wouldn't mind getting a new macbook pro, except I'm waiting on a bugfree version |
| 01:13.04 | tsume | I always wait for second revision of anything. |
| 01:13.32 | tmccrary | in-side: Check your debug, if you can't find any problems there, check bugzilla. If nothing exists, file a bug. Not instant satisfaction, I know, however it's the best I can do. |
| 01:14.25 | ComputerWarm | Does anyone here live in calgary or toronto and wanna send me a fax so i can test my current setup ? |
| 01:15.07 | in-side | tzanger: problem is.. I'm trying to calling atention for a important bug at least from those who rely on asterisk in call transfer but ok.. it seems people like to speak about anything here beyond asterisk don't get me wrong I'm not crying for help nor saying anybody is oblyed to help me. just a question of... whatever |
| 01:15.31 | in-side | tmccrary: no I was to fill a report in bug track |
| 01:15.49 | in-side | seems to be a bug as versions before 1.2 |
| 01:15.50 | tmccrary | sorry bugzilla/mantis/etc |
| 01:15.54 | in-side | seems not to be affected |
| 01:16.08 | in-side | tmccrary: I understand thanks |
| 01:17.51 | tmccrary | in-side: fyi, this is not #asterisk-techsupport247. The people in here have a common interest in Asterisk. Beyond that, the discussion could be about anything. |
| 01:18.19 | TUplink | any one use TelaSIP? |
| 01:18.21 | shido6 | it could be worse |
| 01:18.32 | shido6 | you could "pay" someone to listen to you |
| 01:18.37 | Abydos313 | TUplink i do |
| 01:20.39 | in-side | tmccrary: why people here tends to think that a question is always a helpdesk call? |
| 01:21.58 | tmccrary | in-side: Let me show you quote of a user who was in here as an example: problem is.. I'm trying to calling atention for a important bug at least from those who rely on asterisk in call transfer but ok.. it seems people like to speak about anything here beyond asterisk don't get me wrong I'm not crying for help nor saying anybody is oblyed to help me. just a question of... whatever. |
| 01:22.02 | tmccrary | That's why |
| 01:22.31 | shido6 | http://bugs.digium.com/main_page.php |
| 01:22.36 | in-side | tmccrary: ya nice... |
| 01:22.58 | russellb | bugs.digium.com is *not* a support forum |
| 01:23.14 | in-side | that is what I'm trying to say... |
| 01:23.16 | Darwin35 | no its a chat forum |
| 01:23.21 | shido6 | "calling atention for a important bug" |
| 01:23.23 | in-side | of course I could post it on mailing list |
| 01:23.26 | in-side | but before that |
| 01:23.42 | in-side | I as trying to see if somebody here experiencied same problem |
| 01:24.16 | in-side | but... ok.. let's go talk about mac's or the nice butt of my neighbor |
| 01:24.20 | tmccrary | Okay, but you didn't discuss it that way. You brought the problem up like the users of this channel owed you free tech support services. |
| 01:25.04 | ComputerWarm | hey anyone use chanspy? |
| 01:25.04 | in-side | err.. you know I some kind bored of ... gpl people that are always crying for the bad salary |
| 01:25.13 | tmccrary | Not that people here wouldn't help you, but when you bitch because no one has responded to your problem in under 5 minutes, there's a problem. |
| 01:25.51 | in-side | tmccrary: ok.. no hard feellings |
| 01:25.56 | in-side | thanks for your help |
| 01:26.17 | tmccrary | Well, BSD people have been crying lately too, look at Theo Da Raddt. |
| 01:26.19 | in-side | I will post in mailing list next and on mantis after re read again all logs |
| 01:26.29 | in-side | tmccrary: eheh |
| 01:26.43 | in-side | tmccrary: but in his case he has right to do it.. |
| 01:26.50 | in-side | as everybody abuse from openssh |
| 01:27.08 | in-side | not to mention all other precious stuff |
| 01:27.38 | tmccrary | in-side: heh, he's douche, I wouldn't pay that guy a dime. And's it's open source, if he and his team quit tomorrow, someone would pick OpenSSH up and carry the torch. |
| 01:28.18 | in-side | bsd ... thanks god! |
| 01:28.35 | *** join/#asterisk MGSsancho (n=user@adsl-68-120-231-33.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 01:28.36 | in-side | anyway that is another holy war :p |
| 01:28.40 | in-side | holly |
| 01:29.21 | sevard | holly != holy |
| 01:29.41 | in-side | sorry for my terrible english eheh |
| 01:29.42 | Darwin35 | astersk is a holy war unto itself |
| 01:30.01 | in-side | but your portuguese shouldn't be better |
| 01:30.08 | in-side | anyway eheh |
| 01:31.08 | tmccrary | You're from Portugal? |
| 01:31.18 | in-side | yap |
| 01:31.26 | tmccrary | that's cool, do you know any BJJ? |
| 01:31.37 | in-side | BJJ ? |
| 01:31.46 | tmccrary | oh wait, wrong country, my bad |
| 01:31.48 | tmccrary | hehe |
| 01:31.49 | MGSsancho | lol |
| 01:31.52 | in-side | eheh |
| 01:32.06 | in-side | jiu jitsu ? |
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| 01:32.27 | in-side | I'm brazilian but I live in portugal |
| 01:32.40 | tmccrary | really? that's cool |
| 01:33.04 | tmccrary | When you said Portugal I pictured a country right above brazil instead of by Spain. |
| 01:33.16 | in-side | eheh |
| 01:33.36 | in-side | well it is better then imagine a province in spain |
| 01:33.37 | in-side | :p |
| 01:33.41 | tmccrary | heh |
| 01:33.45 | in-side | at least you imagine it as a country |
| 01:33.46 | in-side | :p |
| 01:34.05 | Qwell | Portugal isn't in Florida? |
| 01:34.10 | in-side | eheh |
| 01:34.25 | in-side | you should say in New Jersey |
| 01:34.28 | in-side | :p |
| 01:35.41 | *** join/#asterisk MacDome (n=eseidel@c-71-198-177-144.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:35.43 | in-side | well I think I really have to sleep just to tired and getting with a very bad mood |
| 01:35.50 | in-side | as some could repair already eheh |
| 01:36.01 | in-side | epair = notice |
| 01:36.03 | in-side | err |
| 01:36.10 | in-side | repair = noticed |
| 01:38.26 | tzanger | in-side: I know, and I understand your frustration |
| 01:38.53 | tzanger | you need to help us help you -- did it ever work? Have you tried other configurations? What phones are you using, all that stuff. I am not a SIP expert myself so the help I can offer is limited. |
| 01:39.15 | in-side | ok no problem |
| 01:39.35 | in-side | yes I tried with linksys, sipura, grandstream, xten, and much others |
| 01:39.45 | in-side | from version 1.18 till 1.26 |
| 01:39.59 | tzanger | in-side: I am curious as to why transfers aren't working of ryou, that seems like a pretty major feature, especially with so many clients NOT working... |
| 01:40.02 | in-side | my problem is as my instalation is not 100% asterisk |
| 01:40.11 | in-side | but a mix with openser and asterisk |
| 01:40.20 | Darwin35 | inside look at yughen pa1688 based pones |
| 01:40.32 | in-side | phones? |
| 01:40.51 | in-side | ya problem seems to be related with new bug on mantis |
| 01:40.55 | in-side | about REFER request |
| 01:41.29 | in-side | asterisk seems not be matching transactions right but I have to try with other providers in diferent type of channels |
| 01:41.49 | in-side | I will try it tomorrow with iax and h323 also |
| 01:41.51 | ComputerWarm | has anyone here got chan spy to actually listen in on a conversation? |
| 01:43.45 | x86 | anyone gotten app_nv_backgrounddetect to compile? |
| 01:44.22 | in-side | Darwin35: pa1688 ? all in one ? eheh |
| 01:44.33 | in-side | seems nice but too far way to us to buy it eheh |
| 01:45.55 | in-side | Darwin35: woow there is a portuguese there hmm |
| 01:46.49 | ComputerWarm | is there an option i have to set to the extension to allow me to use chanspy on them? |
| 01:46.50 | in-side | bye ppl |
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| 01:55.24 | x86 | ComputerWarm: what kind of channel are you trying to spy on? |
| 01:55.41 | ComputerWarm | sip |
| 01:55.53 | x86 | chan spy i think only works with zap channel |
| 01:56.18 | x86 | what you could do is setup MixMonitor to record all inbound and outbound calls, or whatever you're trying to do |
| 01:57.15 | ComputerWarm | no it works great with sip as well figured it out |
| 01:57.39 | x86 | how did you do it? |
| 01:57.59 | *** part/#asterisk Z-Knight (n=Z-Knight@cpe-67-10-28-100.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 01:58.04 | ComputerWarm | exten => _*666.,1,ChanSpy(SIP/${EXTEN:4}) |
| 01:58.29 | ComputerWarm | now I wish there was a way i could connect with channel spy and start recording |
| 01:59.43 | x86 | could always make a macro to do a StealChan, then MixMonitor.... or something |
| 02:02.51 | ComputerWarm | that would work |
| 02:03.59 | ComputerWarm | x86 would you be able to help me test my fax setup i have a calgary number and toronto number you could dial |
| 02:04.08 | *** join/#asterisk file (n=jcolp@mctnnbsa24w-142167058031.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net) |
| 02:05.38 | *** join/#asterisk hydride (n=nathan@HSE-Toronto-ppp3485882.sympatico.ca) |
| 02:06.02 | ComputerWarm | x86 do you know where i can find some information on stealchan ? |
| 02:06.11 | hydride | http://www.ipolex.com/vp800nwifi.asp <-- Can I use that with asterisk? |
| 02:13.36 | nextime | anyone using chan_ss7? |
| 02:15.05 | x86 | ComputerWarm: i dont have outbound fax, only inbound |
| 02:15.20 | x86 | ComputerWarm: if you need help getting inbound faxing working, i can totally help with that though :) |
| 02:15.25 | x86 | just cant test it for you :P |
| 02:15.33 | x86 | i know my setup works fine for inbound faxes over SIP |
| 02:15.52 | ComputerWarm | i have it setup for asterisk to receive the fax and then email it to me |
| 02:16.07 | ComputerWarm | but i am unsure if it is even correctly working |
| 02:16.32 | x86 | yeah same setup i'm doing :P |
| 02:16.39 | nextime | ComputerWarm : if you need to test inbound faxes over sip or iax, i can send you a test fax, or if you are italian i can send you over pstn too |
| 02:16.39 | x86 | the script on the wiki is broken heh |
| 02:17.02 | ComputerWarm | oh good to know thats the one i am using |
| 02:17.11 | ComputerWarm | nextime that would be very helpful |
| 02:17.30 | ComputerWarm | I can set you up a sip account or i can connect you to me long distance and you can just call out that |
| 02:17.44 | nextime | ComputerWarm : sure |
| 02:17.52 | ComputerWarm | what would be better for you? |
| 02:17.55 | ComputerWarm | just over sip |
| 02:18.14 | ComputerWarm | x86 could you send me a copy of your dial plan and script by chance? |
| 02:18.17 | nextime | ComputerWarm : tell me a sip uri without any auth just for test |
| 02:18.31 | ComputerWarm | ok moment let me set one up for you |
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| 02:19.11 | ComputerWarm | nextime mind if i message you ? |
| 02:20.15 | nextime | ComputerWarm : message me |
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| 02:22.33 | FuriousGeorge | hey all |
| 02:22.43 | ComputerWarm | hello |
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| 02:35.16 | nextime | 1h 25min to start the melbourne F1 GP |
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| 02:51.20 | x86 | how would someone go about registering for a 10-10-XXXXX number in the US? |
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| 03:04.25 | MoutaPT | in a production server do you recommended not to use mpg321 and use slinear files , i mean previously converted to my most used codecs alaw and gsm? |
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| 03:06.53 | tmccrary | Just to clarify, in sip.conf, if you assign an extension name and you do not specify regExten, the regExten is set to the name by default, correct? i.e. name is the default for regExten unless you specify a different regExten? |
| 03:12.41 | Darwin35 | madplayer is your friend |
| 03:12.51 | Darwin35 | mpg123 is the devil |
| 03:12.58 | CrashHD | MoutaPT: madplayer is what you should use |
| 03:12.59 | Darwin35 | it needs to be pulled |
| 03:13.33 | MoutaPT | Darwin35: what about just put my moh files in Alaw ... and seti it in musiconhold.conf |
| 03:13.34 | MoutaPT | ? |
| 03:13.46 | MoutaPT | it's safe isn't it? |
| 03:14.39 | Darwin35 | gsm/wav/mpg are the preferd |
| 03:14.47 | Darwin35 | for audio |
| 03:15.01 | MoutaPT | why? |
| 03:15.11 | MoutaPT | if it is already on the correct codec |
| 03:15.16 | file | does anybody (in Canada) know if Subway is open... late... |
| 03:15.18 | MoutaPT | what could go wrong= |
| 03:15.20 | MoutaPT | ? |
| 03:16.48 | Darwin35 | it just what most use |
| 03:16.56 | Darwin35 | use what you want |
| 03:17.12 | Darwin35 | just letting you know what is basic in asterisk |
| 03:17.38 | MoutaPT | thanks |
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| 03:17.46 | shaun2222 | anybody here fermiliar with the 79xx Cisco phones? |
| 03:17.59 | shaun2222 | sorry if thats a repeat, got kicked and didnt know if it was sent.. |
| 03:18.06 | MoutaPT | btw would be any problem if i keep .gsm .wav and .pcm |
| 03:18.14 | MoutaPT | in my default moh directory? |
| 03:18.45 | MoutaPT | * will choose the best one |
| 03:18.49 | MoutaPT | isn't it? |
| 03:19.57 | alephcom | file: typically they are I believe. How do you define late? |
| 03:20.05 | file | I called :D |
| 03:20.11 | alephcom | :-) |
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| 03:25.18 | tmccrary | Is Asterisk going to be GPL2 for the time being? Does anyone know if there are plans to switch to GPL3? |
| 03:26.08 | file | tmccrary, we are GPL2 for thee foreseeable future |
| 03:26.10 | MoutaPT | sorry ofr this question, on wiki is written mpg123 issue is solved on ast 1.2 , any ways isn't it recommended to stay away from mpg123 in a production server? |
| 03:26.21 | SMOKES | i have a voip setup with a provider similar to vonage, i use a motorola vt1005s ATA. I just finished setting up a server with asterisk, and am wondering if i can use my ATA to connect to my local server, and route it to my outside provider via some type of relay? does this make sense? |
| 03:26.28 | ComputerWarm | . |
| 03:26.43 | file | MoutaPT, why would it be recommended? there's various ways for MOH and they all have pros/cons... mpg123 has it's place |
| 03:27.08 | Darwin35 | 'mpg123 issues willnever be resolved |
| 03:27.15 | MoutaPT | there's no cpu heavy load or any memory leak? |
| 03:27.31 | file | on a proper setup using the right version, no |
| 03:27.36 | Darwin35 | asterisk is a memmory leak |
| 03:27.38 | file | mpg123 works fine |
| 03:27.55 | Darwin35 | file is the plug for the leak |
| 03:28.10 | tmccrary | file: thanks |
| 03:28.43 | Darwin35 | aww file you look so cute when you glare at me like that. |
| 03:28.55 | MoutaPT | thanks guys |
| 03:29.01 | MoutaPT | see u around |
| 03:29.06 | Darwin35 | ltr |
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| 03:33.10 | Darwin35 | ok |
| 03:33.17 | Darwin35 | time to update |
| 03:33.39 | Darwin35 | and test on my beta box |
| 03:34.13 | SMOKES | i know my question was a really n00b question, but can anyone venture an answer? |
| 03:34.26 | tsume | no :) |
| 03:35.34 | Darwin35 | Smokes that has nothing to do with asterisk |
| 03:36.07 | Darwin35 | sorry missed that it was hooked to your server |
| 03:36.11 | SMOKES | i wanted to setup my own stuff here, then relay it out using my existing provider |
| 03:36.14 | tmccrary | SMOKES: Yes, you can |
| 03:36.21 | tmccrary | Atlhough with Vonage it's tricky |
| 03:36.25 | SMOKES | whoohoo |
| 03:36.42 | tmccrary | because they basically hardcore your devices password on the ATA |
| 03:36.44 | SMOKES | well its another company in canada called cia |
| 03:36.59 | tmccrary | Oh ok, so you don't actually use Vonage then? |
| 03:37.09 | SMOKES | i am the voip installer, i have access to the ata's |
| 03:37.29 | SMOKES | no i dont use vonage, just i ASSUME its similar |
| 03:37.33 | tmccrary | Basically, all you need to do, is get your SIP login information for your account and configure what's called a trunk to with your SIP provider (assuming you're SIP, which is likely). |
| 03:38.15 | tmccrary | With vonage, it's much trickier because you have to get your SIP login information off your ATA, which Vonage doesn't allow you to access. |
| 03:38.26 | SMOKES | so instead of configuring voip.voipprovider.com i'd put 192.168.1.199 (my local server ip) ? |
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| 03:38.40 | SMOKES | in the ata |
| 03:38.58 | tmccrary | yeah, you'd configure your ATA to regiser an extension on your Asterisk server (you define the login/exten/secret in sip.conf on asterisk) |
| 03:39.09 | *** join/#asterisk project_2501 (n=project-@S01060004e2929dc9.br.shawcable.net) |
| 03:39.13 | tmccrary | then you configure Asterisk to register with your SIP provider as a peer |
| 03:39.27 | tmccrary | Then you setup your extensions.conf to route calls from your ATA to your SIP provider trunk |
| 03:39.32 | SMOKES | right on, ill get started, thanks! |
| 03:39.51 | tmccrary | np |
| 03:40.05 | SMOKES | umm what do i use for "server directory" thats located in ATA config |
| 03:40.17 | SMOKES | currently its set to: /motorola |
| 03:40.38 | project_2501 | my asterisk server is being retarded! |
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| 03:41.33 | project_2501 | it's worked fine for a few days then all of a sudden when I call somebody, I can't here any ringing and can't here ppl when if they answer |
| 03:41.46 | project_2501 | but It works fine if ppl call me |
| 03:42.43 | tmccrary | SMOKES: sounds like some kind of device setting, I don't think it's related to your sip connection |
| 03:42.43 | project_2501 | I never even changed anything in a a config file to do this, everything is still exactly the same |
| 03:42.54 | tmccrary | I would leave it alone for now |
| 03:43.08 | SMOKES | ok i set it the ip of my ast box |
| 03:43.34 | tmccrary | on you asterisk box, you have to setup an account with matching settings in sip.conf |
| 03:44.48 | SMOKES | k |
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| 03:54.45 | Darwin35 | why is it newbies never read the manual or the wiki |
| 03:55.07 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Darwin35, CUZ! |
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| 03:57.29 | SMOKES | Darwin35 : if youre talkin about me - i got lost in the information overload (ex: the 40+ .conf files) |
| 03:58.12 | SMOKES | can be somewhat intimidating |
| 03:58.35 | Darwin35 | only if its asterisk@home |
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| 03:59.46 | Darwin35 | but then again I go back to the early days og * |
| 03:59.52 | Darwin35 | og/of |
| 03:59.53 | SMOKES | =] |
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| 04:39.16 | hydride | are there any wifi phones with any wireless internet options on them? |
| 04:40.40 | jebba | hydride, you mean like web browsers? I don't know of any. |
| 04:41.25 | hydride | oh, damn |
| 04:41.35 | hydride | you'd think with them being wifi phones :/ |
| 04:41.49 | hydride | what about ringtones and stuff like that, can I upload midi files to them or anything? |
| 04:41.53 | jebba | ya, the ones i've seen are all pretty experimental/new... it's coming i'm sure |
| 04:42.54 | jebba | hydride, i just have experience with the utstarcomm 1000 and its /really/ basic. |
| 04:43.22 | hydride | ahh, should I wait on a wifi sip phone then? |
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| 04:47.23 | shaun2222 | anybody fermiliar with converting the cisco 7960G phone's to SIP |
| 04:48.05 | synaptic | whats a good brand of sip phone for a reasonable price? |
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| 04:51.00 | tehdely | polycom anything |
| 04:51.01 | tehdely | heh |
| 04:51.19 | pigpen2 | I am holding off for Siemens new wifi phone |
| 04:51.25 | pigpen2 | it has strongswan integrated. |
| 04:51.32 | pigpen2 | 802.11b/g |
| 04:51.56 | pigpen2 | But yes...for base phone...Polycom 601 |
| 04:52.48 | synaptic | do they make any that support iax? |
| 04:53.01 | pigpen2 | not that I have found. |
| 04:53.06 | pigpen2 | and yes...I have looked. |
| 04:53.12 | pigpen2 | bummer eh? |
| 04:53.26 | pigpen2 | But! That is why strongswan is so cool in the wifi phone... |
| 04:53.44 | pigpen2 | you can vpn in and grab a connection via sip with no nat issues., |
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| 04:57.53 | synaptic | http://www.voipsolutions.be/product_info.php/products_id/206 eh? |
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| 04:59.42 | pigpen2 | Neat...first native iax phone I have seen... |
| 04:59.49 | pigpen2 | Good idea...looks like shit. |
| 05:01.16 | synaptic | hehe |
| 05:01.26 | HamYaI | anyone using Realtime? |
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| 05:04.01 | pigpen2 | sorry, haven't heard of them. |
| 05:04.02 | alephcom | HamYal: Yes |
| 05:05.34 | HamYaI | alephcom: are you able to call people in sip_buddies? |
| 05:06.01 | alephcom | yes, I am |
| 05:06.23 | HamYaI | alephcom: with type = friend? |
| 05:06.36 | alephcom | yes |
| 05:06.46 | alephcom | I do the rtcaching thing. |
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| 05:07.00 | HamYaI | alephcom: okay, then there must be something wrong with mine |
| 05:07.34 | HamYaI | alephcom: hmm, what would the rtcatching thing help in my case? |
| 05:08.41 | alephcom | What is yours doing? |
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| 05:14.23 | HamYaI | alephcom: when I make an out-going call from people in my sip static users (ast_config) to realtime users (sip_buddies), I had ring back tones but the real time client doesn't see anything |
| 05:14.51 | HamYaI | alephcom: outgoing calls are okay |
| 05:16.49 | HamYaI | alephcom: and "chan_sip.c:1990 auto_congest: Auto-congesting" is received |
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| 05:17.15 | jpablo | hi people, anyone has used the rhino pci t1/e1 card ? |
| 05:18.51 | Qwell | [av]bani: 6859 |
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| 05:19.02 | [av]bani | Qwell: you were supposed to post... |
| 05:19.12 | Qwell | I did post |
| 05:19.14 | Qwell | to -dev |
| 05:19.34 | [av]bani | sccp-users |
| 05:19.44 | Qwell | meh, Sergio is already pissed enough :p |
| 05:19.58 | [av]bani | \o/ |
| 05:20.08 | Qwell | read the -dev archives for today |
| 05:21.03 | alephcom | HamYal: Sorry, I was on the phone. Hmmm I'm not sure what to suggest. a few hours of sleep might help me. :-) |
| 05:22.53 | [av]bani | Qwell: not enough flaming, i'm disappointed |
| 05:23.08 | Qwell | [av]bani: he's pissed enough to break out the accusations |
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| 05:23.48 | [av]bani | Qwell: like O NOES YUO STOELD MY COED!@# |
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| 05:24.05 | Qwell | something like that |
| 05:24.33 | [av]bani | :) |
| 05:24.44 | asteriskmonkey | my digium card shows up as this |
| 05:24.44 | asteriskmonkey | 00:0a.0 Communication controller: Unknown device d161:0405 (rev 02) |
| 05:24.49 | asteriskmonkey | is that normal? |
| 05:24.51 | [av]bani | well chan_sccp is hopeless anyway because it can never be disclaimed |
| 05:25.01 | [av]bani | which is the biggest issue |
| 05:25.08 | Qwell | it could be...it's just take a lot of work |
| 05:25.11 | Qwell | it'd* |
| 05:26.27 | HamYaI | alephcom: rtcachefriends has helped me out =) |
| 05:26.37 | alephcom | Excellent |
| 05:27.21 | HamYaI | alephcom: the problem was that I put nat=no |
| 05:28.23 | HamYaI | alephcom: thanks for your advice |
| 05:28.45 | alephcom | np |
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| 05:37.26 | FuriousGeorge | anyone here have more than one box running * with a dynamic ip? |
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| 05:39.41 | AsteriskNewbie | Hello guys ... need help with echo cancellation .. any asterisk gurus around? :) |
| 05:40.05 | FuriousGeorge | whats the prob? |
| 05:40.11 | FuriousGeorge | im not a guru |
| 05:40.15 | FuriousGeorge | but i have some * experience |
| 05:40.39 | AsteriskNewbie | Got a TDM2400 .. voip to voip calls seem to be okay ... but on voip to pstn calls, callers sound are echoed right back to him .. |
| 05:40.54 | AsteriskNewbie | receiver hears no echo at a.. .. |
| 05:41.05 | FuriousGeorge | echocancancel=yes echocancel when bridged? |
| 05:41.15 | FuriousGeorge | in zapata.conf |
| 05:41.18 | synaptic | no echo when u call extenion to extension? |
| 05:41.29 | AsteriskNewbie | nope no echo .. |
| 05:41.35 | AsteriskNewbie | and yes .. echocancel=yes |
| 05:41.42 | synaptic | sip phones? |
| 05:41.47 | AsteriskNewbie | however .. echotraining=yes produces error message .. |
| 05:41.54 | AsteriskNewbie | "unable to request echo training on line" .. |
| 05:42.00 | AsteriskNewbie | yep .. sip phones .. |
| 05:42.02 | FuriousGeorge | ah |
| 05:42.17 | FuriousGeorge | but you are calling out to pots? or out over voip? |
| 05:42.34 | AsteriskNewbie | Yes .. am calling out tru pots .. |
| 05:42.46 | FuriousGeorge | did you build * with mmx? |
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| 05:42.53 | AsteriskNewbie | callout through voip = no echo. Call-out through pots is what produces echo .. |
| 05:43.01 | AsteriskNewbie | No .. I did not build with mmx .. |
| 05:43.21 | AsteriskNewbie | I just built with the default config anyhow ... I don't think mmx is enabled by default??? |
| 05:43.29 | synaptic | it isnt |
| 05:43.31 | FuriousGeorge | thats normal, when you call out through pots the delay comes back |
| 05:43.42 | FuriousGeorge | that might help |
| 05:43.53 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmm .. but on my TDM400 ... I never get that problems .. |
| 05:43.55 | FuriousGeorge | also, hows the wiring to the dmark for the pots lines? |
| 05:44.02 | FuriousGeorge | *d-mark |
| 05:44.10 | synaptic | ya its weird just pots. make sure u dont have any high resource , irq sharing etc |
| 05:44.12 | AsteriskNewbie | Wiring goes from dmark to amphenol ... |
| 05:44.20 | bsdfreak | hehe |
| 05:44.27 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmmm ... |
| 05:44.39 | FuriousGeorge | oh yeah good one |
| 05:44.45 | FuriousGeorge | cat /proc/interrupts |
| 05:44.57 | AsteriskNewbie | but why is asterisk "unable to request echo training" ..?? anyone know what that means? |
| 05:44.57 | synaptic | no nmi's either |
| 05:45.10 | FuriousGeorge | i mean: how is the wiring in terms of sloppy or not |
| 05:45.14 | FuriousGeorge | who did it? |
| 05:45.49 | synaptic | using latest asterisk and zaptel? |
| 05:45.51 | FuriousGeorge | not that i need to know who, but i hear too much untwisting of pairs is bad for echo |
| 05:46.05 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmm .. wiring was done by a telephone pro .. |
| 05:46.11 | FuriousGeorge | its probably ok |
| 05:46.11 | AsteriskNewbie | yes .. latest asterisk/zaptel .. |
| 05:46.23 | FuriousGeorge | cat /proc/interrupts |
| 05:46.32 | FuriousGeorge | is wctdm sharing an irq with anything? |
| 05:47.12 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmm .. lemme see .. |
| 05:47.45 | synaptic | ya do a cat /proc/interrupts see any nmi's? |
| 05:47.47 | AsteriskNewbie | No .. it doesn't seem to be .. |
| 05:48.02 | synaptic | make sure u have no frame buffer on. |
| 05:48.11 | FuriousGeorge | what kind of cpu you got in that thing? |
| 05:48.22 | FuriousGeorge | and have you tried another sip phone yet? |
| 05:48.23 | synaptic | what linux distro u using? |
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| 05:48.45 | AsteriskNewbie | CentOD |
| 05:48.52 | AsteriskNewbie | cat /proc/interrupts: http://pastebin.com/635333 |
| 05:48.59 | alephcom | anybody here use IAXmodem? I'm considering installing it and just wondering what the thoughts are on it. |
| 05:49.00 | synaptic | using asterisks at home? |
| 05:49.08 | AsteriskNewbie | synaptic .. what do you mean .. framebuffer? |
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| 05:49.32 | AsteriskNewbie | Furious: I've got an smp box .. Ibm x series 250 |
| 05:49.59 | AsteriskNewbie | Furious: yes .. I've tried two two sip phones ... |
| 05:50.23 | AsteriskNewbie | Synaptic: sorry .. how do I check the frame buffer? |
| 05:51.04 | FuriousGeorge | hit ctrl alt f1 and tell me if it looks frame buffery or old-school-consoley |
| 05:51.25 | FuriousGeorge | whats ur console resolution look likr |
| 05:51.28 | FuriousGeorge | like |
| 05:51.37 | AsteriskNewbie | Oh .. am not on the console right now .. |
| 05:51.43 | AsteriskNewbie | I'm sshed in ... |
| 05:51.45 | AsteriskNewbie | ? |
| 05:51.51 | FuriousGeorge | i see |
| 05:51.58 | FuriousGeorge | tbh i dunno how to remotely check for framebuffer |
| 05:52.03 | FuriousGeorge | other than in the kernel |
| 05:52.12 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmm .. |
| 05:52.23 | AsteriskNewbie | but the console resolution was pretty poor ..... |
| 05:52.24 | synaptic | "dmesg | grep ram" ; determine if system is using frame-buffer. |
| 05:52.30 | FuriousGeorge | thanks |
| 05:52.45 | synaptic | what network card u have? |
| 05:52.57 | synaptic | i know the e1000 module has soem issues |
| 05:53.20 | AsteriskNewbie | dmesg:checking if image is initramfs... it is |
| 05:53.20 | FuriousGeorge | if i were you i would try to build * with mmx support, i hear that helps a bunch |
| 05:53.45 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmm .. ok .. Furious .. perhaps I will rebuild with mmx .. |
| 05:53.45 | FuriousGeorge | that could just mean you have scsi or something |
| 05:53.57 | FuriousGeorge | but it could be a splash image too if your console is in fb mode |
| 05:54.04 | FuriousGeorge | or both :) |
| 05:54.07 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmm ... |
| 05:54.17 | AsteriskNewbie | I do have scsi drives .. yes ... |
| 05:54.37 | FuriousGeorge | tbh, i have framebuffer running on a barton @ 2.4ghz (not to mention a bunch of other stuff) and i get no echo |
| 05:55.01 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmmm ... |
| 05:55.03 | synaptic | i think u turn it off in grub / lilo |
| 05:55.16 | AsteriskNewbie | am using grub .. |
| 05:55.56 | FuriousGeorge | if his distro works like mine fb mode is built into kernel and you dont gotta do anything with grub to turn it on off |
| 05:56.05 | AsteriskNewbie | but .. would fb stop echo training? |
| 05:56.13 | FuriousGeorge | i dont see why |
| 05:56.21 | FuriousGeorge | it just takes up resources |
| 05:56.29 | FuriousGeorge | so for a real server there is no need to run it |
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| 05:56.36 | synaptic | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+disable+frame+buffer |
| 05:56.36 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmm ... and this card even has hardware echo cancellation built in .. |
| 05:56.43 | FuriousGeorge | sangoma? |
| 05:56.50 | AsteriskNewbie | No .. digium .. |
| 05:56.57 | FuriousGeorge | oh thats right the tdm2400 |
| 05:56.59 | AsteriskNewbie | TDM 2400 |
| 05:57.08 | FuriousGeorge | whats the module called i didnt see it in your pastebin |
| 05:57.33 | AsteriskNewbie | http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/tdm2400p.php |
| 05:57.48 | AsteriskNewbie | Module is wctdm24xxp |
| 05:58.02 | synaptic | u could always try # svn checkout http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/trunk asterisk |
| 05:58.02 | synaptic | # svn checkout http://svn.digium.com/svn/zaptel/trunk zaptel |
| 05:58.03 | FuriousGeorge | try a free softphone and see if there is still echo |
| 05:58.08 | synaptic | hehe |
| 05:58.19 | synaptic | but i would try different brand sip phone |
| 05:58.20 | FuriousGeorge | yeah, just save your confs |
| 05:58.33 | FuriousGeorge | a software phone like xlite |
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| 05:58.44 | FuriousGeorge | to see if its maybe the phone |
| 05:58.48 | jpablo | hey people, anyone knows the url of the people that makes the rhino channel banks ? |
| 05:59.00 | FuriousGeorge | i fixed a bad echo on an fxs channel once with a new handset |
| 05:59.02 | AsteriskNewbie | yeah .. with softphone ... there is still echo .. |
| 05:59.18 | AsteriskNewbie | And yes .. I tried two different types of sip phones already .. |
| 05:59.23 | FuriousGeorge | hmmm |
| 05:59.29 | FuriousGeorge | what kind of cpu? |
| 05:59.34 | FuriousGeorge | it shouldnt matter really |
| 05:59.55 | AsteriskNewbie | Pentium three .. |
| 06:00.13 | jpablo | AsteriskNewbie, sip phones or atas? |
| 06:00.16 | AsteriskNewbie | and the box has FOUR cpus ... so its got a lot of raw power .. |
| 06:00.20 | AsteriskNewbie | sip phones .. |
| 06:00.22 | FuriousGeorge | people run * on 200mhz routers |
| 06:00.33 | AsteriskNewbie | exactly ... |
| 06:00.48 | jpablo | yeah, but they don't stick 24 lines to it |
| 06:00.58 | FuriousGeorge | the best i can come up with is rebuild asterisk with mmx support |
| 06:01.01 | jpablo | AsteriskNewbie, is the echo chancelation active? |
| 06:01.03 | AsteriskNewbie | Well .. right now.. I'e got only ONE line on it .. |
| 06:01.12 | AsteriskNewbie | jpablo: yes .. it is .. |
| 06:01.18 | AsteriskNewbie | but echo training gives an error .. |
| 06:01.24 | jpablo | what erro ? |
| 06:01.24 | AsteriskNewbie | "unable to request echo training" .... |
| 06:01.42 | FuriousGeorge | echotraining should only matter in the first few seconds of the call |
| 06:01.44 | jpablo | paste the relevants parts of zapata.conf |
| 06:01.49 | FuriousGeorge | after that its a nonfactor, iirc |
| 06:02.03 | AsteriskNewbie | ok .. gimme a sec .. |
| 06:02.04 | synaptic | i think hyper threading turned on does weird shit in asterisk |
| 06:02.48 | FuriousGeorge | and i think iax handles dynamic ip's and nat poorley |
| 06:02.55 | AsteriskNewbie | Error Message: http://pastebin.com/635342 |
| 06:02.56 | SMOKES | do i need to run a TFTP server to provision my ATA before it can connect to Ast box? |
| 06:03.17 | alephcom | SMOKES: Probably now. What ATA do you have? |
| 06:03.27 | SMOKES | moto vt1005s |
| 06:03.41 | jpablo | AsteriskNewbie, paste grep echo /etc/asterisk/zapatac.onf here |
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| 06:03.47 | alephcom | I'm ignorant on those things. sorry |
| 06:04.09 | AsteriskNewbie | zapata.conf: http://pastebin.com/635343 |
| 06:04.22 | SMOKES | its a standard issue ata similar to vonage but canadian |
| 06:04.35 | synaptic | is your zapata properly config? |
| 06:04.51 | jpablo | AsteriskNewbie, please paste it here |
| 06:04.56 | synaptic | and zaptel |
| 06:05.24 | AsteriskNewbie | echocancel=yes |
| 06:05.24 | AsteriskNewbie | ;echocancelwhenbridged=yes |
| 06:05.24 | AsteriskNewbie | echotraining=800 |
| 06:05.55 | AsteriskNewbie | zaptel: fxsks=21-24 |
| 06:05.55 | AsteriskNewbie | loadzone=us |
| 06:05.55 | AsteriskNewbie | defaultzone=us |
| 06:06.54 | alephcom | SMOKES: It would guess it wouldn't be required but your device may be locked into a provider. |
| 06:06.54 | jpablo | AsteriskNewbie, uncomment echochancelwhenbridged and change echotraining to yes |
| 06:07.48 | AsteriskNewbie | Ok .. actually i just changed those values to what I pased about 30 minutes ago .. |
| 06:07.53 | SMOKES | alephcom: its hitting the ast server on port 69 (tftp) trying to get its config, are these available? are there forums related to connecting ATA's? |
| 06:08.03 | AsteriskNewbie | Previously whenbridged=yes and training=yes too. No luck still .. |
| 06:08.11 | synaptic | echotraining=yes since u got built in |
| 06:08.16 | synaptic | did u restart asterisk? |
| 06:08.24 | AsteriskNewbie | yes, synaptic .. |
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| 06:08.50 | jpablo | AsteriskNewbie, see /proc/interrups |
| 06:09.12 | AsteriskNewbie | interrupts is: |
| 06:09.14 | AsteriskNewbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.14 | AsteriskNewbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.14 | AsteriskNewbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.14 | AsteriskNewbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.14 | AsteriskNewbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.14 | AsteriskNewbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.16 | AsteriskNewbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.17 | jpablo | AsteriskNewbie, do you see your card sharing interrupts with something else? |
| 06:09.19 | AsteriskNewbie | 169: 21 25 25 24 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx, aic7xxx |
| 06:09.21 | AsteriskNewbie | 177: 660765 9 8 7 IO-APIC-level eth0 |
| 06:09.22 | AsteriskNewbie | 185: 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-level ohci_hcd |
| 06:09.24 | AsteriskNewbie | 193: 18226789 71149771 81789573 21727846 IO-APIC-level wctdm24xxp |
| 06:09.26 | AsteriskNewbie | 201: 5160 19115 12183 15984 IO-APIC-level ips |
| 06:09.28 | AsteriskNewbie | NMI: 0 0 0 0 |
| 06:09.30 | AsteriskNewbie | LOC: 194096858 194096858 194096857 194096856 |
| 06:09.32 | AsteriskNewbie | ERR: 0 |
| 06:09.38 | AsteriskNewbie | MIS: 0 |
| 06:09.40 | AsteriskNewbie | no ... not that I can see .. |
| 06:10.11 | jpablo | you have apic so it shouldn't be sharing |
| 06:10.25 | jpablo | do you havee a /proc/fb ? |
| 06:10.37 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmm ... lemee see .. |
| 06:10.57 | AsteriskNewbie | yes I do have an /proc/fb file ..??? |
| 06:11.11 | jpablo | paste it here |
| 06:11.27 | AsteriskNewbie | Its empty .. got nothing .. |
| 06:11.32 | jpablo | ok, that's good |
| 06:11.37 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmm .. |
| 06:11.51 | synaptic | if you do "lspci -v | less" and look through.. u can see if any sharing irq too |
| 06:11.55 | jpablo | also your nmi is 0 |
| 06:12.25 | synaptic | try /usr/src/zaptel/zttest |
| 06:12.35 | alephcom | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:12.42 | jpablo | humm, but the interrupts are handled by varius cpus |
| 06:12.43 | SMOKES | thanks |
| 06:12.52 | jpablo | that couldn't be a problem |
| 06:12.57 | jpablo | that could be |
| 06:13.08 | jpablo | AsteriskNewbie, tried disabling smp ? |
| 06:13.15 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmm .. ok ... |
| 06:13.24 | SMOKES | alephcom should i just ebay myself a sip phone? |
| 06:13.56 | AsteriskNewbie | No .. I never tried disabling smp .. |
| 06:13.57 | alephcom | Or get a softphone. |
| 06:13.59 | jpablo | AsteriskNewbie, asterisk cards are very sensible to latency issues, anything may affect them :S |
| 06:14.09 | alephcom | Where in Canada are you? |
| 06:14.10 | synaptic | yep |
| 06:14.11 | AsteriskNewbie | jpablo: would that include smp though? |
| 06:14.17 | jpablo | AsteriskNewbie, you maybe want to try booting a non smp kernel, to see if it helps |
| 06:14.21 | jpablo | AsteriskNewbie, yes |
| 06:14.27 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmm .. lemme try that now .. |
| 06:14.38 | SMOKES | alephcom i have a headset, is that all i really need? |
| 06:15.13 | AsteriskNewbie | rebooting ... |
| 06:15.19 | synaptic | ya digium cards little sensitive to stuffs :( |
| 06:15.48 | AsteriskNewbie | Digium vs Sangoma .. which is one is better?? |
| 06:16.50 | jpablo | AsteriskNewbie, a year ago sangoma, now maybe still sangoma but not as easily :P |
| 06:17.04 | AsteriskNewbie | hehehe ... |
| 06:18.05 | shaun2222 | i have a cisco 7960 phone, i just finally got the 003-08-2-00 image on it but now i'm left with a new problem, the phoen keeps resetting it self. |
| 06:18.25 | shaun2222 | it keeps trying to download a SIP<MAC ADDRESS>.cnf file from teh tftp server |
| 06:18.42 | shaun2222 | does this phone always have to download a config from a tftp server |
| 06:19.01 | jpablo | humm, i was never able to disable the downloading on mine |
| 06:19.16 | {zombie} | it will remember the settings, but it will keep trying to load a new config file |
| 06:19.23 | jpablo | on my 7960 it just doesn't find it and goes on |
| 06:19.56 | shaun2222 | my sits for a while configuring ip, vlan.. the downloads the SIPDefault.cnf |
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| 06:20.24 | shaun2222 | hnmm |
| 06:20.32 | jpablo | AsteriskNewbie, still echo? |
| 06:20.34 | shaun2222 | wtf it says it's grabilg POS3-07-4-00 |
| 06:21.01 | justinu | pos == piece of shit |
| 06:21.02 | jpablo | shaun2222, mine takes a while to boot and at times it looks like it is doing the same crap all over again |
| 06:21.09 | shaun2222 | think i might have found it |
| 06:21.23 | shaun2222 | i wonder if it's been bouncing between these 2 firmwares this whole time :/ |
| 06:21.32 | jpablo | post = piece of telephony shit |
| 06:22.03 | {zombie} | if you have two different config files mentioning different firmware versions, then yes it's possible it will go back and forth between the two |
| 06:22.03 | AsteriskNewbie | Funny ... zaptel doesn't come online automatically now .. |
| 06:22.58 | synaptic | did u compile zaptel with the different kernel u loaded? |
| 06:23.14 | AsteriskNewbie | Hmm... no .... |
| 06:23.22 | synaptic | ./nod |
| 06:23.35 | AsteriskNewbie | :) |
| 06:23.42 | shaun2222 | lol i think thats what it was doing.. |
| 06:23.49 | shaun2222 | because it just upgraded to 8 again.. |
| 06:24.01 | AsteriskNewbie | But if I recomplile zaptel .. then I can't use with the smp kernel ..right? |
| 06:24.01 | shaun2222 | i thikn 8 used the Sipdefault.cnf by default |
| 06:24.06 | shaun2222 | which was set to use version 7 |
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| 06:24.17 | shaun2222 | and version 7 uses XMLDefault.cnf.xml |
| 06:24.20 | shaun2222 | which was saying to use 8 |
| 06:24.21 | synaptic | ya u can |
| 06:24.26 | JffMRIII | hello all |
| 06:24.31 | synaptic | it will install in /lib/modules/kernel versions |
| 06:24.32 | AsteriskNewbie | hmm.. |
| 06:24.49 | shaun2222 | AsteriskNewbie: what os ver? |
| 06:24.54 | AsteriskNewbie | CentOD |
| 06:24.59 | AsteriskNewbie | CentOS |
| 06:24.59 | JffMRIII | anyone know an easy way to reinstall wrt on linksys via ssh? |
| 06:25.06 | AsteriskNewbie | alias redhat ent .. |
| 06:25.07 | shaun2222 | you need to install kernel-smp-devel i beleive |
| 06:25.19 | shaun2222 | ya i know what CentOS is, i host it :) |
| 06:25.23 | JffMRIII | I killed the gui trying to free up sapce |
| 06:25.28 | AsteriskNewbie | hehehehe :) |
| 06:25.41 | shaun2222 | AsteriskNewbie: ya you need kernel-smp-devel |
| 06:26.20 | AsteriskNewbie | hmm .. ok .. so if I have smp-devel and compile in non-smp kernel all is good? |
| 06:26.47 | shaun2222 | uhh |
| 06:26.50 | AsteriskNewbie | And do I need to recompile *? |
| 06:26.56 | shaun2222 | if your running a -smp kernel you need the smp-devel |
| 06:27.09 | shaun2222 | if your running the normal kernel you need just -devel |
| 06:27.25 | AsteriskNewbie | Ah .. ok .. actually I just got both .. |
| 06:27.34 | AsteriskNewbie | but I want my zaptel to work for both kernels .. |
| 06:27.39 | shaun2222 | my guess is that if you upgrade your kernel or change kernels you have to rebuild it |
| 06:27.49 | AsteriskNewbie | @ the drop of a hat! |
| 06:28.03 | synaptic | i hope u arent using asterisk at home.. i think they use centos in their install lol |
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| 06:28.20 | shaun2222 | ya @home uses centos.. |
| 06:28.36 | shaun2222 | centos is awsome. |
| 06:28.51 | AsteriskNewbie | Yep ... I'd say so .. |
| 06:31.55 | shaun2222 | hmm |
| 06:31.59 | synaptic | ::cough:: debian ::: cough::: |
| 06:32.00 | shaun2222 | ok, i went into sip config |
| 06:32.04 | shaun2222 | line 1 |
| 06:32.07 | shaun2222 | but it wont let me change naything. |
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| 06:32.56 | synaptic | http://wwwf.centos.org/127_story.html?storyid=127 heh ya |
| 06:33.24 | synaptic | ^ thats good laughs |
| 06:40.02 | shaun2222 | god dami |
| 06:40.08 | shaun2222 | this fucker wont unlock with **# |
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| 06:46.47 | Mavvie | shaun2222: go to the configuration menu first. |
| 06:50.02 | shaun2222 | figured it out |
| 06:50.06 | shaun2222 | apparently they changed it |
| 06:50.12 | shaun2222 | i have to select unlock from the menu |
| 06:52.20 | iDunno | if it's locked... |
| 06:52.30 | iDunno | why's it let you in the menu? |
| 06:53.26 | iDunno | centos is more awful than awesome. |
| 06:54.13 | tzafrir | synaptic, read the apachy FAQ (first questions of it) and you'll see that this is not the first time such a thing happened |
| 06:59.33 | [av]bani | linux sux use windows xp |
| 07:00.02 | iDunno | (otherwise [av]bani needs to take lots less crack ;) |
| 07:00.14 | shaun2222 | where do i put my asterisk server ip in this phone? |
| 07:00.19 | shaun2222 | under the call manager section? |
| 07:00.30 | shaun2222 | callmanager1 says unprovisioned |
| 07:00.54 | [av]bani | iDunno: i will port asterisk to windows xp because it is the superior os |
| 07:06.56 | iDunno | [av]bani: superior to *what*? The only thing that I can thinks of XP being superior to is BarbieOS, and even then it's a *very* close call ;) |
| 07:07.24 | coppice | XP SP1 is far superior to XP SP2 |
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| 07:08.28 | x86 | Windows For Workgroups 3.11 pwns all biatches!!!!$T!$$G!!!eleven |
| 07:09.05 | [av]bani | xp > * |
| 07:09.26 | iDunno | heh |
| 07:09.27 | tsume | MacOSX > * |
| 07:09.44 | iDunno | tsume: you've been at the crack too, eh? ;) |
| 07:09.57 | coppice | XP SP1 isn't too bad. SP2 takes it back to the good old days of MS, where nothing works reliably. I guess the stable operation of SP1 just didn't fit the corporate culture :-) |
| 07:10.00 | tsume | even though I'm on linux now, when I get another laptop, I'll install windows on this and ditch linux for windows and macosx.. both the best viable targets for making money |
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| 07:10.18 | tsume | I'm an app developer, people pay good money for apps and support, not servers :) |
| 07:10.30 | tsume | you want servers.. go to IBM ;) |
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| 07:11.34 | tsume | linux is a slow method of development because there are so many people trying to reinvent the wheel, they have different ways of doing things, and until all the major ditros merge, there will always be crappy linux software like mono who only supports SuSE and people who pay. |
| 07:11.51 | coppice | SP2 is certainly a blessing for apps developers. you blame all problems in MS again :-) |
| 07:12.23 | iDunno | tsume: errrr. |
| 07:12.34 | coppice | s/in/on |
| 07:13.19 | tsume | coppice: oh yes, I love the network patch which broke every app deployed for XP :) |
| 07:13.38 | iDunno | (now, if only they'd open source Oracle... ;) |
| 07:13.42 | tsume | iDunno: hehe.. I always used alien to convert rpm to deb :) |
| 07:14.18 | tsume | the most stable development language is still by far *ick* Sun Java. |
| 07:14.18 | iDunno | ohh, that's nasty ;) |
| 07:14.26 | tsume | iDunno: yes, but it works :) |
| 07:14.29 | iDunno | hmmm. I should really plug the laptop in |
| 07:14.36 | iDunno | it's only got 3% battery left :) |
| 07:14.41 | tsume | iDunno: hehe |
| 07:14.46 | tsume | iDunno: 15.4"er? |
| 07:14.56 | iDunno | noooo. ikkle! |
| 07:15.09 | coppice | I love the fire hazard mode with SP2, where your laptop appears to have shut down but it still taking full power and cooks |
| 07:15.12 | iDunno | portégé r200 ikkle |
| 07:15.15 | tsume | never desktops unless its a server |
| 07:15.35 | iDunno | I've got a desktop box at home... |
| 07:15.41 | iDunno | but it's treated like a server :) |
| 07:15.58 | tsume | iDunno: I only use laptops. they are servers as well, but if it breaks.. I simply buy another one :) |
| 07:16.05 | iDunno | (then again, it's amd64 and permanently running and has a fair amount of poke... ;) |
| 07:16.16 | tsume | all my lappies are intel |
| 07:16.23 | iDunno | tsume: you get paid too much? :) |
| 07:16.31 | tsume | I don't care for the wars, and I've access to experimental hardware |
| 07:16.45 | iDunno | my other laptop, which is getting sent back tomorrow, is an amd64 |
| 07:16.49 | tsume | the new 8 core by intel should make you all have a hard one :D |
| 07:17.03 | iDunno | nah - it's intel - I'm an AMD fan ;) |
| 07:17.12 | tsume | and the Intel infiniband is sweet |
| 07:17.15 | tsume | something amd doesn't have |
| 07:17.22 | Qwell | 8 core is so 6 months ago |
| 07:17.32 | Qwell | x86 newbs |
| 07:17.36 | tsume | I mean for pub ;) |
| 07:17.39 | coppice | intel doesn't have hypertransport, which is more useful |
| 07:17.45 | iDunno | Intel's 64 bit CPUs, however, are crap. They had to go back to the drawing board and copy AMDs ideas. |
| 07:17.50 | iDunno | Intel suck ;) |
| 07:18.06 | tsume | nah, intel had their problems, but they still rock :) |
| 07:18.09 | coppice | intel are starting to get their act together again |
| 07:18.12 | tsume | I like the mobos too, |
| 07:18.24 | tsume | and the intel based laptops are a real power saver, yet really fast. |
| 07:18.26 | Qwell | coppice: That's a first...for this quarter |
| 07:18.30 | coppice | they still suck for 4 and 8 processor boxes, though |
| 07:18.34 | tsume | I can squeeze 3 hours with this laptop. |
| 07:18.37 | [av]bani | amd cant touch the pentium Ms for portables... |
| 07:18.54 | Qwell | [av]bani: pfft, transmeta |
| 07:18.56 | tsume | [av]bani: amd has a mobile though, I haven't tried them. |
| 07:19.05 | [av]bani | transmeta lost it long time ago |
| 07:19.08 | [av]bani | they couldnt scale |
| 07:19.09 | tsume | Qwell: transmeta does nowhere :) |
| 07:19.13 | tsume | exactly |
| 07:19.16 | tsume | they were slower |
| 07:19.21 | Qwell | transmeta still makes laptops with 12 hours of battery life |
| 07:19.21 | coppice | my old P4 laptop had better baterry life that my new Pentium M one. I can't figure our why. the P4 one really cooked |
| 07:19.25 | Qwell | of course they're slower |
| 07:19.26 | x86 | transmeta is no longer in business i thought? |
| 07:19.26 | tsume | they need to just pack shop. |
| 07:19.28 | iDunno | I get over 3 hours with this laptop - but yeah - it's intel based ;) |
| 07:19.35 | tsume | Qwell: oh, well with laptop life they are great yes |
| 07:19.35 | [av]bani | i have a turion mt-32 notebook |
| 07:19.40 | x86 | what about Via processors? |
| 07:19.45 | [av]bani | it doesnt come anywhere near the pentium-m... |
| 07:19.45 | tsume | iDunno: this is a 15.4 " :) |
| 07:19.49 | x86 | Via makes a decent, low-power proc too |
| 07:19.59 | [av]bani | x86: unsuitable for notebooks, unless you like lots of waiting |
| 07:20.03 | x86 | tsume: powerbook or macbook? :P |
| 07:20.04 | tsume | just as long as cyrix doesn't make another crap release :) |
| 07:20.06 | iDunno | tsume: this is lots lots smaller ;) |
| 07:20.07 | [av]bani | x86: might as well buy a lappy 486 |
| 07:20.12 | tsume | iDunno: oh, hehe |
| 07:20.27 | iDunno | a4 pad type small. |
| 07:20.29 | x86 | [av]bani: 1ghz Via vs 1Ghz Pentium M.... it's comperable |
| 07:20.31 | [av]bani | the core duo are very nice |
| 07:20.37 | tsume | x86: Toshiba Sat M35-S456 |
| 07:20.41 | [av]bani | x86: not even close.. the pentium m smokes the via handily |
| 07:20.51 | x86 | tsume: oh weak... i thought you had a cool apple laptop ;) |
| 07:20.51 | tsume | x86: Toshiba really cleaned up their act, some of the laptops are really great |
| 07:20.57 | [av]bani | x86: the via is for embedded set top boxes.. not notebooks |
| 07:21.00 | tsume | except the ones from 2001 with bad inverters |
| 07:21.01 | Eggplant | Cept the VIA C3 (rebranded Cyrix + "stolen" Intel tech) runs at up to 2ghz |
| 07:21.10 | coppice | the pentium M really sucks on floating point code |
| 07:21.18 | Eggplant | It should be used in <very cheap> laptops |
| 07:21.25 | x86 | [av]bani: via has multiple processor lines, and i've seen manufacturers use them in laptops and they perform rather well |
| 07:21.42 | tsume | coppice: you mean it being slow as molasses? :) |
| 07:21.51 | coppice | yep |
| 07:22.03 | [av]bani | x86: i've yet to see a via notebook which "perform rather well". if you have an exact example of a current via notebook which performs comparably to a turion or pentium m, please post it here. |
| 07:22.07 | tsume | I like toshiba, people keep talking bad, but really.. most manufactureers have bad lines as well |
| 07:22.22 | tsume | x86: if I get a 12" it will be toshiba :) |
| 07:22.27 | tsume | with a ati card, and macosx ;) |
| 07:22.32 | coppice | everyone has bad laptops these days. they are in a race to the bottom |
| 07:22.34 | Eggplant | [av]bani, there wont ever be such a thing, anyone saying there is, is looney |
| 07:22.35 | tsume | </bastard> |
| 07:22.52 | [av]bani | Eggplant: i just want x86 to stick his foot in his mouth :) |
| 07:22.53 | tsume | coppice: I'm always on the go, laptops are life |
| 07:22.53 | shaun2222 | when configuring sip on the cisco phone where would i put the ip of the asterisk server, under sip proxy? |
| 07:23.02 | Eggplant | coppice, can you back that up? My compaq is nice |
| 07:23.04 | x86 | tsume: better be intel-based laptop with SSE2 and SSE3 support and the GMA900 chipset or you wont get the thing to run worth a crap ;) |
| 07:23.07 | tsume | coppice: there isn't a reason to own a desktop. gaming are for people who wnat to waste time |
| 07:23.10 | Eggplant | [av]bani, ah ah ic |
| 07:23.22 | x86 | [av]bani: i never said anything about a turion |
| 07:23.22 | tsume | x86: I'm sure I'll find one :) |
| 07:23.48 | [av]bani | x86: neither did i |
| 07:24.00 | x86 | [01:22] [av]banix86: i've yet to see a via notebook which "perform rather well". if you have an exact example of a current via notebook which performs comparably to a turion or pentium m, please post it here. |
| 07:24.02 | [av]bani | <x86> [av]bani: via has multiple processor lines, and i've seen manufacturers use them in laptops and they perform rather well |
| 07:24.08 | x86 | this is pointless, you dont even know what you said ;) |
| 07:24.17 | [av]bani | give us a link to an existing current via notebook which 'performs rather well' |
| 07:24.31 | coppice | Eggplant: well, if that compaq is recent it keyboard sucks rather badly compared to the previous model, doesn't it. also it will fall apart in half the time. same with Dell. 3 years ago their keyboards were pretty good. now they are awful. They fall apart extremely quickly too |
| 07:24.36 | x86 | not sure the one i was using |
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| 07:25.31 | [av]bani | via are awful for anything beyond STB or barebones embedded stuff... a laptop with a via would be horrendous |
| 07:25.34 | Eggplant | coppice, I dont know the year of make, all lappy KB's suck, its P4 2.8 with 1g of DDR and a 6gb hd (yea 6, the 30 it came with died when the mpci modem took a lighting hit) |
| 07:25.35 | x86 | [av]bani: "well" is relative in this case.... it performed well for my purposes, as far as i could notice, it was comperable to the pentium m (original pentium m) |
| 07:25.38 | [av]bani | not to mention the chips arent targeted for laptops... |
| 07:26.02 | tsume | hehe |
| 07:26.11 | coppice | Eggplant. not true. until lenovo took them over some of the best keyboards made were in thinkpads |
| 07:26.11 | tsume | well, people just need to buy laptops, period |
| 07:26.16 | tsume | theres just no point in a desktop |
| 07:26.17 | Eggplant | [av]bani, they are targets for embeded apps, laptops could be in that slot =) |
| 07:26.19 | tsume | unless its a server |
| 07:26.29 | tsume | screw gamers, they are stupid time wasters |
| 07:26.48 | Eggplant | tsume, not true, I would not want to give my workers a laptop they could walk off with |
| 07:26.53 | chr|s_ | coppice, isnt lenovo a rebrand / outlet? |
| 07:26.59 | chr|s_ | or did they actually 'take them over'? |
| 07:27.06 | chr|s_ | and whats happened to the kb now? |
| 07:27.10 | tsume | Eggplant: theres always enough space in a laptop to place a gps transmitter |
| 07:27.21 | coppice | I work *much* faster with a desktop machine than with a laptop, unless the laptop is one of the better thinkpads |
| 07:27.27 | tsume | Eggplant: lasts 6 months internal battery, and flat |
| 07:27.32 | Eggplant | tsume, and there is always time to remove it |
| 07:27.37 | coppice | chris_: lenovo now own the thinkpad line |
| 07:27.50 | chr|s_ | tsume, yes because battery drain and administration costs, data plans and the like dont cost money |
| 07:27.53 | tsume | Eggplant: like people are smart enough to say, "Hey, this thing has a GPS transmitter?" |
| 07:28.00 | coppice | lenovo doesn't rebrand or outlet anything, as far as I know |
| 07:28.05 | chr|s_ | unless you have a goos gps transmitter you could suggest |
| 07:28.13 | [av]bani | Eggplant: the via eden cpus have enormous heatsinks... and they are not low profile. both things which are bad for laptops, unless you like a 6" thick laptop :) |
| 07:28.17 | tsume | chr|s_: the transmitters are only 200-400 each :) |
| 07:28.29 | chr|s_ | coppice, what I mean is, they are the same laptops, but sold via the lenovo website, which is ibm? |
| 07:28.41 | chr|s_ | tsume, so there goes the cost of the laptop again |
| 07:28.48 | Eggplant | [av]bani, thats only casue they are passive, a active cooler would be much smaller |
| 07:28.58 | chr|s_ | tsume link me to a 200 transmitter |
| 07:28.59 | tsume | chr|s_: buy in bulk. and its not much anyway |
| 07:29.06 | Eggplant | tsume, it only takes 1 to say it and show the other monkies |
| 07:29.14 | chr|s_ | 350 is cheapest tranmitter, and that is in bulk |
| 07:29.14 | alephcom | http://pastebin.ca/47854 |
| 07:29.16 | tsume | Eggplant: then don't tell them its in there |
| 07:29.35 | alephcom | I'm having grief building zaptel on centos 4.3 amd64. Comments/suggestions anyone? |
| 07:29.47 | coppice | chris: lenovo is a chinese PC maker which bought the thinkpad business from IBM. thinkpads are no longer anything to do with IBM, and soon the thinkpads will be the usual low end crap - lenovo have just starting branding the crap as thinkpad |
| 07:29.48 | tsume | alephcom: install a real distro. |
| 07:29.52 | chr|s_ | I am looking for a <200 pref <100 gps transmitter, I need about 2k units though |
| 07:30.09 | tsume | alephcom: www.debian.org |
| 07:30.22 | chr|s_ | coppice, are you sure they will drop in quality? |
| 07:30.22 | alephcom | tsume: Such as? That's not an option right now anyways. |
| 07:30.28 | chr|s_ | I am shocked. I wanted the x40 |
| 07:30.35 | alephcom | Maybe I should have.... |
| 07:30.35 | chr|s_ | I think it is the x40, the subportable thinkpad |
| 07:30.45 | Eggplant | chr|s_, im sure if you found a $$$$ unit nad called the maker and said you want 2k units the price will drop |
| 07:30.47 | [av]bani | woo... turion x2 |
| 07:31.05 | chr|s_ | Eggplant, that was for a minimum of 5k units |
| 07:31.11 | [av]bani | the next notebook i buy will have a media bay batter |
| 07:31.12 | chr|s_ | but they would slide the price down to 2k |
| 07:31.21 | [av]bani | i'm tired of 3h runtimes.. i want 8+ :) |
| 07:31.27 | coppice | chris_ they just started releasing crap as thinkpads. I assum that will sweep through the whole line in the next few months. I guess all the japanese guys who designed thinkpads won't be around much longer |
| 07:31.38 | chr|s_ | otherwise, you have to buy through areseller normally, which isn't cheaper (like buying direct from ericcson is more expensive) |
| 07:32.03 | Eggplant | chr|s_, oh sucky, the same goes for most the SBC makers ive found, i need 500~1000 units but in 100unit lots over the next 12 months but need a 5k order too |
| 07:32.07 | alephcom | I think I found the problem. |
| 07:32.10 | chr|s_ | coppice, best laptop on market now? I don't want a desktop replacement that weights more than my minifridge |
| 07:32.30 | tsume | chr|s_: use the GPS transmitters with the Timex watches |
| 07:32.30 | chr|s_ | Eggplant, sounds like my setup |
| 07:32.41 | chr|s_ | Eggplant, if you want, pm me what you are upto, maybe we can brainshare |
| 07:32.44 | Eggplant | I dont need GPS, I need CPU + minipci |
| 07:32.47 | coppice | the best ones now will be the thinkpads lenovo haven't yet ruined |
| 07:32.57 | [av]bani | best depends on your requirements |
| 07:33.06 | chr|s_ | tsume, costs? reliability? tsume please share more info, sounds interesting |
| 07:33.11 | [av]bani | 3lbs? 4lbs? 5lbs? 6lbs? |
| 07:33.32 | tsume | chr|s_: I'm not sure how it works, but the watch has another product with it. The GPS transmitter |
| 07:33.36 | iDunno | 7lbs more? |
| 07:33.39 | coppice | what is all this about GPS transmitters? they only go in satellites |
| 07:33.41 | tsume | http://www.clevertraining.com/timex58681.html |
| 07:33.46 | chr|s_ | tsume, $$$? |
| 07:33.52 | chr|s_ | aaah k |
| 07:33.53 | tsume | 159 each :) |
| 07:33.57 | chr|s_ | !? |
| 07:33.58 | [av]bani | 7lbs is heavy for a laptop... |
| 07:34.11 | iDunno | very. |
| 07:34.22 | tsume | Navman II GPS Unit |
| 07:34.27 | [av]bani | 5 is about the borderline between 'light' and 'annoying' |
| 07:34.30 | coppice | yeah. the old spec for a laptop which really matters is the kilos :-) |
| 07:34.49 | [av]bani | 7 is 'this is my desktop pc, it only moves when my office moves' |
| 07:35.49 | [av]bani | the dell latitudes are nice, and you get to pick+choose the components you want. |
| 07:35.51 | shaun2222 | i'm having a odd problem, i'm confuring a cisco 7960 phone thats inside a NAT network trying to get it to link to my asterisk server at my Data Center, i configured the phone but it doesnt look like the phone is attempting to connect to my * server. |
| 07:35.52 | coppice | depends how you carry them. In a shoulder bag 7lb is heavy. in a backpack its OK |
| 07:36.01 | shaun2222 | what could be going wrong here.. |
| 07:36.03 | tsume | http://www.clevertraining.com/timexnavman2.html |
| 07:36.19 | CrashHD | hello |
| 07:36.21 | tsume | chr|s_: I'm sure one could disassemble and integrate in to a laptop |
| 07:36.27 | coppice | [av]bani: the old dell lattitude were nice. the current ones not so |
| 07:36.29 | [av]bani | coppice: i carry mine around with one hand. |
| 07:36.37 | shaun2222 | i have a computer on the same NAT network thats using diax thats able to connect fine (using IAX2 of course) |
| 07:36.38 | [av]bani | 5.5bls |
| 07:36.39 | CrashHD | anyone give me pointers on having line appearance keys with asterisk (with sip/iax phones)? |
| 07:36.42 | tsume | place connections in to the battery terminals to steal some power :) |
| 07:37.03 | chr|s_ | tsume, there us GPRS to relay the data? |
| 07:37.06 | chr|s_ | or they log? |
| 07:37.11 | [av]bani | the averatecs are 'crazy light' |
| 07:37.13 | tsume | I think it relays to the watches.. |
| 07:37.16 | [av]bani | 2lbs - 3lbs |
| 07:37.23 | [av]bani | like, a strong wind and they go walkabout :) |
| 07:37.35 | tsume | chr|s_: just an intresting idea :) |
| 07:37.42 | chr|s_ | tsume, you use them you said? |
| 07:38.02 | tsume | chr|s_: no, I haven't used this. Only the 400USD GPS with built in 4 month battery ;) |
| 07:38.28 | tsume | for a car however. Laptop with this device.. would be a fun electronics project |
| 07:38.36 | chr|s_ | tsume, you have a link to that one? |
| 07:38.45 | tsume | the 400USD one? |
| 07:38.47 | chr|s_ | yes |
| 07:38.59 | chr|s_ | tsume, this gps watch is not a transmitter |
| 07:39.09 | chr|s_ | it is merely a pocket radio |
| 07:39.18 | chr|s_ | which reads the gps data, and displays your speed |
| 07:39.26 | chr|s_ | no tracking it seems |
| 07:39.28 | [av]bani | coppice: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2846&review=Dell+Latitude+D620+Single+Core+Notebook+Computer+for+Business |
| 07:39.29 | CrashHD | so no advice on multiline appearance keys? |
| 07:39.33 | chr|s_ | no logging or transmission |
| 07:39.34 | [av]bani | coppice: the dell d620 is quite nice |
| 07:39.41 | coppice | there are no GPS transmitters, except in satellites |
| 07:39.57 | chr|s_ | coppice, I am looking for a GPRS transmitter of GPS data |
| 07:40.07 | coppice | [av]bani: what's a 620? the curren one is a 610 |
| 07:40.22 | tsume | oh, heh. the watch is a radio to device client.. |
| 07:40.24 | [av]bani | coppice: visit that url |
| 07:40.30 | [av]bani | the current is actually 820 |
| 07:40.32 | chr|s_ | satellites transmit the gps signals using satelite xmision tech, I want a gps receiver to use grps to xmit the received data and positions :-) |
| 07:40.33 | [av]bani | you're behind the times :) |
| 07:40.59 | [av]bani | http://notebookreview-cnet.com.com/Dell_Latitude_D820/4505-3121_7-31792100.html?subj=fdba&part=notebookreview-cnet&tag=_Laptops |
| 07:41.25 | tsume | hmm |
| 07:41.45 | chr|s_ | hmm indeed :p |
| 07:42.13 | tsume | I just had an idea :) integrade a GPS reciever in to a laptop, and have it transmit coordinates upon internet connection |
| 07:42.17 | chr|s_ | I could imagine the guy legging it with a new laptop, with a helpful readout of how fast he is going and how many calories he is burning :-) |
| 07:42.43 | tsume | since work laptops usually having a custom winxp packaging.. |
| 07:42.50 | coppice | [av]bani: well the 610 breaks down multiple times per year. the paint flakes off after 6 months. the keyboard is terrible. they are very prone to tough to fix interrmittent problems. they are not very robust. wistron make them. wistron is a subsidiary of acer, and acer will tell you wistron supply dell with the crap they would never put the acer name on |
| 07:42.54 | chr|s_ | tsume, yes if you could use that timex device, and setup a logging interface, and have engineers install them. But I am looking at a certain device right now which is 350, same size, and uses gprs |
| 07:42.58 | chr|s_ | but is 3x the price |
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| 07:43.29 | [av]bani | coppice: so what are you saying about the 620? |
| 07:43.38 | tsume | chr|s_: well an engineer will still have to install them if you want them to be hidden. |
| 07:44.01 | chr|s_ | tsume, you dont understand, I am not doing this for laptops, these devices (for me) are supposed to be given to the person |
| 07:44.05 | chr|s_ | someone else was tlaking about laptops :p |
| 07:44.10 | tsume | oh |
| 07:44.19 | coppice | the 620 is a successor to the 610 and too new to tell. it looks like the 410, so they given the styling the same makeover. i believe its another product from the same source |
| 07:44.24 | chr|s_ | the problem is, I have had to walk this manuf company step by step |
| 07:44.37 | chr|s_ | even to the point of designing a rack charging unit :s |
| 07:44.47 | chr|s_ | the market is so immature it is unbelievable |
| 07:44.51 | tsume | yeah :/ |
| 07:45.32 | chr|s_ | makes me want to almost change my job, I have connection in china, and logistics, make a cheaper gps logger and gps xmitter which does what I htink people want them to do |
| 07:46.48 | tsume | well the navman does use radio to transmit back to the watch ;) |
| 07:47.02 | tsume | chr|s_: I don't think you'll find a prebuilt solution. |
| 07:47.11 | tsume | hardware hacking you should go ;) |
| 07:48.32 | [av]bani | coppice: then what about the 820? |
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| 07:49.19 | coppice | the 810 is a wider version of the 610. i assume the 820 will be a wider version of the 620. very similar other than the ability to have a 1920x1200 screen |
| 07:49.20 | tsume | hehe, well I guess my animal friend uses the same method, he hacked a gps reciever and a radio to a collar for animal tracking. |
| 07:49.37 | darkcmd | I have my PBX setup, now what application would I use on my unix machine, to make calls to numbers like 1-939-939-3993 through my pbx, through my pc mic? |
| 07:49.44 | [av]bani | coppice: "crap" or "not crap" ? |
| 07:50.02 | [av]bani | it sounds like you have already preemptively declared 620 crap |
| 07:50.04 | coppice | they also have the precision range which are very similar to the 810, but with nvidia quattro graphics and shorter battery life |
| 07:50.11 | [av]bani | so i'm curious to know your declaration on the 820 |
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| 07:50.48 | coppice | that 620 looks like the current 410, so i guess it will be similar, the 410 seems a bit more stable than the 610, but not a whole lot |
| 07:51.00 | darkcmd | anyone know? |
| 07:51.02 | tsume | you guys are getting boring :P |
| 07:51.11 | tsume | go hack code or I'll rip yer ears off ;) |
| 07:51.21 | iDunno | ;P |
| 07:51.59 | [av]bani | i like the fact it has a media bay battery. wish my current notebook had one |
| 07:52.29 | darkcmd | is there a way to make calls to outside numbers using my pc mic, using asterisk? |
| 07:52.36 | coppice | that sucks too. that battery is different from the main one, half the size, and twice the price |
| 07:53.08 | coppice | the older C640 had two similar battery slots and was a much better arrangement |
| 07:53.18 | Eggplant | coppice, thats one good thing about the Dell's, same battery and they are dirt cheap (just got a new on for $25) |
| 07:53.23 | [av]bani | well, it's nice to have it as an option |
| 07:53.39 | [av]bani | vs no option at all on 99% of notebooks, and you're stuck with sucky battery life |
| 07:53.48 | darkcmd | ok, I'll go look it up |
| 07:53.50 | coppice | Eggplant. you didn't read what I wrote. not the same battery, and not so cheap |
| 07:53.53 | darkcmd | I tried but couldn't find anything |
| 07:54.06 | [av]bani | eg, 6+ hours vs 3 |
| 07:54.17 | coppice | [av]bani: but its a small battery. it doesn't double life. its maybe a 40% gain |
| 07:54.19 | Eggplant | coppice, all my dells use the same for both (says thats good) is yours a dell ? |
| 07:54.26 | [av]bani | coppice: its better than 0% |
| 07:54.37 | coppice | only old dells use the same for both |
| 07:54.49 | Eggplant | Ive only got old dells, heh |
| 07:55.18 | coppice | [av]bani: well the battery in the 810 gives you about 2 hours of editing. maybe an hour of serious computing |
| 07:55.19 | Eggplant | the oldest is a Inspinron p4 1.6g (3 or 4 years old, i forget) |
| 07:55.36 | Eggplant | eeeh that is crap battery life |
| 07:56.15 | Eggplant | blah Insipron even |
| 07:56.23 | [av]bani | there was some recent laptop i was reading a review about, it only had 90min battery life |
| 07:56.24 | coppice | that's with 802.11 and bluetooth off. don't know how much they affect things |
| 07:56.26 | [av]bani | lollerskates |
| 07:56.41 | [av]bani | 802.11 off gets you another 15 min or so on my laptop |
| 07:56.48 | coppice | Apple's first colour notebook had 10 minutes battert life :-) |
| 07:58.04 | coppice | dell batteries are reasonably prices compared to others, and do carry a warranty |
| 07:58.23 | coppice | most notebook batteries are 7 day exchange for faulty goods |
| 07:58.58 | [av]bani | weird to have a warranty on batteries... they are considered consumables |
| 07:59.39 | coppice | yeah, great. $400 for a consumable. a cheap car battery has a 24 or 36 month warranty |
| 08:00.52 | [av]bani | hah... thinkpad x60s battery runtime .... 8h16m |
| 08:00.54 | Eggplant | 72 warrenty, 6mo full replacement, then its prorated |
| 08:00.56 | [av]bani | core duo |
| 08:01.00 | coppice | they try to classify them as consummable, like a dry cell. that's just weasling out of the warranty. these things are supposed to last |
| 08:01.28 | [av]bani | no... lion batteries are not supposed to last |
| 08:01.42 | [av]bani | nimh maybe |
| 08:01.58 | [av]bani | lion degrade even if you dont use them... its the nature of the technology |
| 08:02.04 | coppice | [av]bani: quoted battery times are usually a myth. i don't know what dell claim, but the 2 hours I quoted for the 810 is real world |
| 08:02.13 | [av]bani | coppice: this was from a review test |
| 08:02.14 | coppice | NiMh degrade far more than Lion |
| 08:02.31 | [av]bani | coppice: physically degrade, compared to 'lose charge' |
| 08:02.35 | coppice | [av]bani: you actually believe reviews? :-) |
| 08:02.52 | coppice | all batteries physically degrade |
| 08:02.53 | [av]bani | eg, lion _capacity_ degrades ~40% per year |
| 08:03.00 | [av]bani | nimh has very low degradation |
| 08:03.06 | [av]bani | but lion holds a charge better than nimh |
| 08:03.24 | [av]bani | nimh lose ~40% charge in a month, lion only like 5% |
| 08:03.37 | coppice | [av]bani: untrue. I have 2 3 year old Lion batteries here from my previous Dell which have a capacity close to new |
| 08:03.44 | [av]bani | lollerskates |
| 08:04.41 | coppice | so the stinky hot P4 machine still runs for 5 hours, but the new super efficient PM machine runs for 2 |
| 08:05.01 | Eggplant | I have to agree, of my 6 batterys (the oldest being near 6? 7? years, only 1 has needed repalcement |
| 08:05.52 | coppice | if you have a vaio, you appear at first sight to have the same battery as a dell only 5 times the price. however, the dell one last and the sony doesn't |
| 08:06.28 | coppice | vaio batteries are super expensive and need to be thrown away every few months |
| 08:06.37 | [av]bani | wha...? |
| 08:06.46 | coppice | but then vaios are total crap, anyway |
| 08:06.50 | Eggplant | are they interchangable? |
| 08:06.56 | [av]bani | wow, now this is just getting silly |
| 08:07.24 | coppice | no. the cases are different, but the cells inside appear to be the same. the dell cells actually say they are made by sony |
| 08:07.49 | Eggplant | mmmm |
| 08:07.49 | coppice | however, the newest dells have korean batteries |
| 08:08.03 | Eggplant | i shoudl rip open this battery and look |
| 08:08.13 | Eggplant | they look like extra long AA's, 8 of them |
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| 08:10.21 | Eggplant | gah, Why can the FCC not keeps its servers working |
| 08:11.05 | [av]bani | hmmm all the core duo laptops seem to have a really long runtime |
| 08:11.08 | coppice | maybe the sourceforge guys maintain them :-) |
| 08:11.15 | [av]bani | doesnt matter who makes them |
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| 08:13.36 | [av]bani | http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2828&review=ThinkPad+X60s+%28Think+Express+Program%29 |
| 08:13.56 | [av]bani | the builtin evdo would be nice for my new job |
| 08:14.00 | [av]bani | maybe they'll buy me one :)) |
| 08:14.39 | coppice | [av]bani: the review you pointed to gives the dell 810 battery life as 299 minutes. the real time is less than half that on light editing activities. i think those reveiws mostly quote the maker's bogus numbers |
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| 08:16.21 | [av]bani | coppice: all of them are paid shills ? :) |
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| 08:23.57 | coppice | no, no. of course not. i'm sure none of these relate what they say about a product to the potential advertising revenues from the vendor |
| 08:24.26 | coppice | though it is a little odd how many products highly praised in reviews suck |
| 08:25.13 | coppice | more than once I have looked at reviews while in the market from a replacement for a piece of garbage, only to find that garbage is the highly recommended product |
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| 08:28.33 | [av]bani | the review on my notebook was pretty spot on |
| 08:28.43 | [av]bani | shrug |
| 08:29.23 | coppice | have you been happy with it? |
| 08:29.55 | juuva | Hi anyone knows if asterisk supports messengers IM or SIMPLE? |
| 08:30.00 | [av]bani | yes |
| 08:30.23 | coppice | Duh, well its easy to say nice things about something which is actually nice |
| 08:31.35 | [av]bani | it has its warts, but they are few and inoffensive and non threatening |
| 08:31.55 | [av]bani | and a lot of positives |
| 08:33.04 | coppice | i find which each change of notebook i am much happier with the speed and the screen, and rather less happy with almost everything else |
| 08:33.15 | [av]bani | such as |
| 08:33.20 | shaun2222 | any of you guys ever use a SIP phone on a NAT network that the asterisk server is not on. |
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| 08:33.41 | shaun2222 | i have a couple phones i want to put at home user locations... the asterisk server is on a public ip... |
| 08:34.01 | shaun2222 | right now with sip debug turned on it looks like the asterisk server is giving a 403 error |
| 08:35.11 | coppice | keyboards are number one. but also quirky touchpads, robustness, reliability and the general overall ergonomic feel of the thing. the last part is hard to tie down, but i feel the productivity difference between a comfortable desktop setup and a notebook is widening |
| 08:35.52 | [av]bani | the keyboard of my current notebook is definitely miles better than the last one |
| 08:35.58 | [av]bani | the touchpad is better too |
| 08:36.06 | [av]bani | its lighter, which is also a plus |
| 08:36.25 | [av]bani | havent had it long enough to rate reliability, but it hasnt had any problems so far |
| 08:36.40 | shaun2222 | http://pastebin.com/635440 |
| 08:36.42 | [av]bani | i can type on this thing all day, it is very comfortable |
| 08:36.49 | juuva | shaun2222: phones should use stun to find their public IP's or configure to asterisk that they are behind nat |
| 08:36.51 | [av]bani | being full size probably helps |
| 08:37.09 | coppice | all touchpads now seem to need the tap feature turned off, or the cursor keeps moving around while typing. that didn't seem to be an issue when touchpads were new |
| 08:37.23 | shaun2222 | juuva: i tryed putting nat=yes on this extentions sip.conf |
| 08:37.30 | [av]bani | hmmm.. i havent had any problems with my touchpad |
| 08:37.36 | coppice | I can type all day in comfort on my last Dell. the new Dell is awful |
| 08:37.40 | [av]bani | the only annoying thing is the edge drag, but that's configurable |
| 08:37.45 | coppice | what do you have? |
| 08:37.50 | [av]bani | synaptics touchpad |
| 08:37.58 | [av]bani | with a scroll area, very nice |
| 08:38.01 | coppice | the machine |
| 08:38.06 | [av]bani | emachines w4620 |
| 08:38.25 | [av]bani | walmart special =) |
| 08:38.52 | coppice | there are many synaptics. some much less troublesome than others. if its in a recess it is usually much less troublesome that one which is almost flush with the panel |
| 08:38.55 | shaun2222 | juuva: when i set nat=yes then the message header changes to "Retransmitting #2 (NAT) to 68.5.63.223:51064:" |
| 08:39.58 | [av]bani | the w4620 is actually arima oem: http://www.arima.com.tw/ViewProduct.asp?View=134 |
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| 08:40.23 | coppice | they have a new option in the synaptics driver. you can disable tap for a selectable time after the last key was pressed, to try to alleviate the problem. i haven't found if that is effective, yet. like almost all Dell users I have tap disabled. |
| 08:40.33 | [av]bani | the synaptics pad is flush, but it's positioned where you don't brush it when typing |
| 08:40.45 | juuva | shaun2222: can you capture traffic outside nat? |
| 08:40.48 | [av]bani | i've never had a problem with tap and typing |
| 08:40.58 | [av]bani | only with the edge dragging feature, which can be turned off |
| 08:41.07 | coppice | then it must be a very good design |
| 08:41.23 | [av]bani | its positioned above some internal components so it gets pretty warm though |
| 08:41.32 | shaun2222 | juuva: i was about to plug this phone directly into the cable modem to test it, if thats what your asking... |
| 08:41.58 | coppice | the rather old vaio I have her has a deeply recessed touchpad, and that one still needs the tap turned off. |
| 08:42.15 | coppice | warm might be good. on a humid day it might keep it dry |
| 08:42.34 | juuva | shaun2222: just thought that nat you are using might be filtering packets out |
| 08:42.35 | [av]bani | i think it's just a matter of being positioned well so you don't brush it |
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| 08:43.07 | coppice | yeah, but that's a rather subtle thing most designs get wrong (don't you Dell?) |
| 08:43.15 | shaun2222 | juuva: it shouldnt be, it's just a stupid linksys wrt router |
| 08:43.38 | shaun2222 | i even setup dmz directly to the phone ip |
| 08:43.40 | shaun2222 | just to test.. |
| 08:43.43 | [av]bani | the touchpad i read the most whine about are the fujitsu lifebooks |
| 08:43.56 | juuva | hmm |
| 08:44.13 | coppice | those things squeeze everything together, so that wouldn't surprise me |
| 08:44.29 | [av]bani | fwiw the emachines w4620 uses the exact same case and keyboard as the gateway m320 |
| 08:44.55 | coppice | interesting. most big brands get the case restyled |
| 08:45.21 | [av]bani | gateway m320: http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/3761.jpg |
| 08:45.30 | [av]bani | emachines w4620: http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/10107.jpg |
| 08:46.02 | coppice | 2 makers produce 55% of all notebooks. I think about 5 makers produce over 75%. under the hood there are not that many different designs |
| 08:46.15 | [av]bani | arima makes this one so... |
| 08:46.29 | [av]bani | http://www.arima.com.tw/ViewProduct.asp?View=134 |
| 08:46.36 | [av]bani | beats me why their page is so horrendous :) |
| 08:46.51 | juuva | shaun2222: what phones you are using? |
| 08:46.57 | coppice | because they don't sell to the public, so they don't care too much |
| 08:47.01 | shaun2222 | juuva: cisco 9760 |
| 08:47.30 | [av]bani | one nice thing about the flush touchpad, there arent any crevices to get crud lodged into |
| 08:47.47 | shaun2222 | juuva: bahh sorry... cisco 7960 |
| 08:47.48 | [av]bani | and you can go all the way to the edge, without being blocked |
| 08:48.24 | shaun2222 | juuva: i'm jumping on my verizon wireless so i can plug this phone in directly... |
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| 08:48.51 | coppice | that sounds good in theory. in practice most nearly flush designs have no sealing at all around them |
| 08:48.57 | shaun222 | i am here now |
| 08:50.57 | [av]bani | s/coppice/curmudgeon/ |
| 08:50.58 | [av]bani | :) |
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| 08:56.19 | shaun222 | damit |
| 08:56.25 | shaun222 | when it's plugged in directly it works |
| 08:56.45 | shaun222 | i can get IAX working just fine behind nat |
| 08:56.47 | shaun222 | why not SIP |
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| 09:02.25 | coppice | [av]bani: I'm just reporting how they are built. using a Dell on a hot day, my sweat runs inside around the touchpad |
| 09:09.31 | juuva | shaun222: sip uses two ports, one for sip and other for rtp |
| 09:10.08 | juuva | for some reason nat doesn't redirect them to phone |
| 09:12.37 | [av]bani | coppice: i looked with a magnifying glass, i can't see any way for moisture to get inside this. it's a flush continuous surface of plastic. |
| 09:13.50 | coppice | then that is different from the normal synaptics pad |
| 09:13.51 | [av]bani | but i guess the curmudgeon would say "see! proof it is poorly constructed! a real touchpad would have huge 2" rubber gaskets around the whole thing!" |
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| 09:16.17 | coppice | most are a normal 1.6mm FR4 pcb with the sensing tracks. a thin adhesive plastic sheet is stuck directly to the PCB, keeping the sensing range very short. this assembly is then placed under a whole in the top panel of the notebook. there days there is usually no bezzle around it, and no seal. The notebook cover will just lift away from this assembly, if you unscrew it. on most notebooks... |
| 09:16.19 | coppice | ...there is no gasket |
| 09:16.43 | coppice | s/whole/hole |
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| 09:23.07 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
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| 09:32.30 | puzzled | morning all |
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| 09:42.23 | FuriousGeorge | my eyes! the goggles, they do naahthing |
| 09:42.26 | FuriousGeorge | there! |
| 09:42.28 | FuriousGeorge | i said it |
| 09:47.35 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 09:53.38 | [av]bani | coppice: so is there any hardware you don't hate? =) |
| 09:54.05 | coppice | yeah, lots. |
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| 09:55.10 | [av]bani | like? |
| 09:55.15 | [av]bani | specifically laptops |
| 09:55.20 | coppice | in the past I loved thinkpads. lenovo seem to be ruining even those, though. its inevitable really. the whole electronics industry is in a race to the bottom |
| 09:56.42 | coppice | all electronics is going the same way. you can get a $19 DVD player, but if you want something better there is no option any more (apart from specialist studio equipment). you can pay more for a fancy case, or fancy features, but you still get the same crap drive and amps. |
| 09:56.56 | [av]bani | sure there is, you can buy expensive DVD players if you want |
| 09:57.10 | [av]bani | they still make $2000 players ... |
| 09:57.18 | coppice | expensive domestic players have the same $2 drive |
| 09:57.21 | [av]bani | (lollerskates if you think it will help) |
| 09:57.58 | [av]bani | well tbh, the modern $2 drive is better than the $5000 drive from 1997 |
| 09:58.34 | [av]bani | of course if you really want that old $5000 drive you can find a used one on ebay |
| 09:58.49 | coppice | a friend was replacing the output buffer amps in his $1500 Sony machine with something better. I thought he was being an audiophile nutter. however, the result was dramatic. they had used something very nasty to save a few cents in an expensive machine, and ruined it |
| 09:59.17 | [av]bani | oh definitely. all vendors have skimped on parts. |
| 09:59.34 | coppice | actually, the $2 drives are really crappy. they kept stripping cost beyond the point where it was really possible. |
| 09:59.37 | [av]bani | a friend of mine is an EE and does lots of renovation of vintage musical equipment |
| 10:00.04 | coppice | so what diffrentiates the $1500 player, apart from the price tag? you can't actually buy a good one |
| 10:00.48 | [av]bani | there's more to a dvd player than the transport |
| 10:01.08 | [av]bani | like say, deinterlacers |
| 10:01.14 | FuriousGeorge | there's that whole deinterlacer |
| 10:01.19 | coppice | that's all standard |
| 10:01.19 | FuriousGeorge | yeah |
| 10:01.21 | [av]bani | which vary widely in quality and sophistication |
| 10:01.25 | [av]bani | coppice: no it isnt |
| 10:01.37 | [av]bani | theres cheap deinterlacers, then theres good ones. |
| 10:01.37 | coppice | the transport and the output buffer amps is where they screw up most machines |
| 10:01.46 | [av]bani | deinterlacing is an art form, its VERY hard. |
| 10:01.48 | coppice | they're all the same, really |
| 10:01.50 | FuriousGeorge | later all |
| 10:02.47 | [av]bani | but like i said, you can always find your cherished oldskool $5000 dvd player on ebay, if it's that important to you. |
| 10:03.05 | [av]bani | hell, you can still find LPs if you're one of those analogue nutters |
| 10:03.42 | [av]bani | imo it's just a bunch of mental masturbation, but hey if thats what floats your boat and separates you from you wallet then who am i to argue :) |
| 10:04.00 | [av]bani | not my money, not my problem |
| 10:04.08 | coppice | well, at least vinyl lasts. all my CDs over 10 years old give trouble. they corrode badly |
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| 10:05.02 | [av]bani | vinyl lasts as long as you dont play it... |
| 10:05.09 | coppice | i suppose that's better than the 70-100 year life of a CR-R - those only last 2-3 years |
| 10:05.28 | [av]bani | or as they say, every listen to an LP is a totally unique experience because you are re-grooving the vinyl :) |
| 10:05.35 | coppice | and CDs won't last whatever you do. tough call :-) |
| 10:06.32 | [av]bani | dunno, i have CDs from 1988 which still play fine. |
| 10:07.38 | coppice | I am transcribing some 1990 CDs to computer files this very afternoon. few copy without the odd hiccup. some won't play at all. it is very humid here, though, and things corrode faster |
| 10:08.25 | coppice | if you have any CDs still packed with the thin sponge sheets they use as separators, get that sponge out. it de-polymerises after a time, and the resulting goo attacks the discs |
| 10:09.04 | [av]bani | i'd expect it's more scuffing than corrosion. the manufacturing process for CDs has always been different than laserdiscs, and laserdiscs did suffer rot |
| 10:09.38 | [av]bani | at least, i haven't had any cd corrode yet. but i've had plenty scuffed where i had to re polish them |
| 10:11.02 | coppice | its corrossion. the lacquer layer is permiable |
| 10:11.22 | coppice | you get black spots of corrossion which grow into big flaky areas |
| 10:13.47 | coppice | i've rented badly scored disks from obvious player damage, but i've never had one of my own damaged in that way |
| 10:14.18 | [av]bani | well, i've been dumping them to PC almost as long as it's been possible |
| 10:14.26 | [av]bani | and put them away in safe storage |
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| 10:16.12 | [av]bani | i guess if you're really paranoid, buy gold cdrs and be happy |
| 10:16.22 | [av]bani | unless you can find a way to get gold to oxidize... |
| 10:17.21 | coppice | gold cdrs fail in 3-4 years. I have many of the early kodak cdrs, and not one is readable |
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| 10:17.55 | coppice | obviously the gold doesn't oxidise. i assume the dyes that accompany it break down |
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| 10:18.31 | coppice | CDs are only rated for 25 years. CD-Rs are mostly rated for 70-100 years. the CD-Rs fail first, though |
| 10:19.59 | [av]bani | hm. does GeSbTe oxidize? |
| 10:21.54 | [av]bani | doesn't appear to. |
| 10:22.23 | [av]bani | so. there is no dye layer in -rw to degrade, no metal to oxidize |
| 10:22.31 | coppice | oxidation isn't the only problem you get. polymers depolymerising affects many things. things changing shape, like tin growing into long fibres, affects things too |
| 10:22.32 | [av]bani | only physical damage could mangle your disc |
| 10:22.39 | [av]bani | no tin |
| 10:22.59 | coppice | don't you believe it. you are taking a very naive view of materials science :-) |
| 10:23.01 | [av]bani | it's germanium-antimony-tellurium |
| 10:23.12 | coppice | most things have a way to fall apart |
| 10:23.26 | [av]bani | unless you've rewritten the periodic table to rewrite tin into GeSbTe |
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| 10:24.18 | coppice | i gave tin as an example, cos its one massively affecting the electronics industry right now, and the effects of the change look really pretty under a microscope |
| 10:24.31 | [av]bani | well... the vinyl in LPs becomes brittle and shrinks/cracks over time... |
| 10:24.39 | [av]bani | or just turns to dust |
| 10:24.51 | coppice | from my days working with germanium lenses, i remember a lot of things with germanium in them are far from stable |
| 10:25.16 | [av]bani | yes, i know about tin whiskers |
| 10:25.24 | [av]bani | old old issue going back to the 1960s |
| 10:25.25 | coppice | most of the LPs i bought as a kid still seem in pretty much their original state |
| 10:25.28 | [av]bani | hardly new |
| 10:25.44 | [av]bani | it affected mainframes in the 1960s |
| 10:25.59 | coppice | yeah, but a whole generation forgot about them. now they are taking the lead out of solder its a whole new problem again |
| 10:26.13 | [av]bani | hell, it's affected railroad switching equipment from the 1900s |
| 10:26.29 | [av]bani | forgot? no |
| 10:27.23 | coppice | well, in removing the lead from solder, many people did nothing to mitigate the tin problem, so after a couple of years of lead free electronics production there are suddenly massive warranty issues on many products |
| 10:27.23 | [av]bani | it's just becoming more of an issue than it used to be, because SMT entered the picture |
| 10:27.30 | [av]bani | no |
| 10:27.59 | coppice | its nothing to do with SMT, Its all about RoHS |
| 10:28.41 | [av]bani | it was actually worse back when everything was wire wrapped... |
| 10:29.03 | [av]bani | it's not some magic new phenomenon |
| 10:29.11 | [av]bani | and nobody 'forgot about it' and there's no "generation gap" |
| 10:29.50 | coppice | yeah, but like a lot of things a young generation of engineers didn't hear about the old problems, and are currently learning them all over again |
| 10:30.09 | [av]bani | you want the big fuckup recently? the massive warranty issues were from the capacitor fuckup |
| 10:30.14 | [av]bani | everyone got bit by that one. |
| 10:30.20 | [av]bani | everyone from A to Z |
| 10:30.46 | coppice | that is a new tech that people didn't understand. the tin problem is because there *was* a generation gap |
| 10:31.01 | [av]bani | you're weird. |
| 10:31.58 | coppice | why? because i think its crazy to take the lead out of solder and do nothing about the consequences? |
| 10:33.00 | coppice | actually phospherous in silicone packaging for ICs caused more problems than that capacitor isse |
| 10:33.14 | [av]bani | no, because you think there's some mythical gap of knowledge from the ages that was somehow "forgotten" |
| 10:33.43 | coppice | if it wasn't forgotton the current problems in mass production wouldn't exist, would they? |
| 10:34.00 | [av]bani | now this is just getting into the world of the bizarre |
| 10:34.09 | coppice | for most young engineers it seems quite a shock when they discover what happens |
| 10:34.10 | [av]bani | i give up, enjoy your fantasy world by yourself :) |
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| 11:22.37 | coppice | [av]bani: I guess you're not in electronics manufacture. I find it quite amusing to watch all this reacquisition of knowledge occur. I'm amused by all the "possible for the very first time" kind of things, which were originally done in a somewhat different way a generation ago |
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| 11:26.44 | RoyK | . |
| 11:27.18 | coppice | has vikingland defrosted yet? |
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| 11:28.35 | RoyK | snowing today |
| 11:28.41 | RoyK | fscking shite |
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| 11:30.19 | RoyK | i was supposed to go fishing today, but my auger isn't long enough. the ice is almost a metre thick :( |
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| 11:31.16 | coppice | only a metre? summer must be on the way :-) |
| 11:31.29 | RoyK | heh |
| 11:31.39 | RoyK | one metre thick ice is quite a lot.... |
| 11:31.43 | RoyK | :P |
| 11:32.23 | coppice | i thought one metre would be like an autumn frost for you |
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| 11:47.26 | [av]bani | hm. new spa3k firmware |
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| 11:58.32 | coppice | dodge bullets? is law and order getting that bad in europe? |
| 11:59.05 | RoyK | not really. just trying to compare the difficulties with asterisk and jitter with something |
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| 12:16.42 | Oliver__ | hello, i have install asterisk. but i cant find the file capi.conf. can i create it or must i recompile it? |
| 12:17.31 | RoyK | Oliver__: google for chan_capi |
| 12:17.41 | RoyK | it's doesn't come with asterisk |
| 12:18.12 | RoyK | Oliver__: perhaps check if you can use another channel driver than capi. i don't think it's updated recently. |
| 12:18.14 | Oliver__ | RoyK: thank you very much |
| 12:18.24 | Oliver__ | hm i have a dritz card |
| 12:18.28 | Oliver__ | can you give me a tip? |
| 12:18.31 | Oliver__ | fritz card |
| 12:19.25 | Oliver__ | what can i use? |
| 12:19.32 | Oliver__ | fritz card pci v2.0 |
| 12:20.06 | RoyK | i think you need capi with that |
| 12:20.12 | Oliver__ | ok |
| 12:20.39 | Oliver__ | hm i cant use isdn4linux? |
| 12:20.50 | Oliver__ | http://www.junghanns.net/en/chan_capi.html i´m on this site now |
| 12:22.04 | RoyK | try ftp://ftp.chan-capi.org/chan-capi |
| 12:22.22 | RoyK | iirc, junghanns doesn't maintain that code anymore |
| 12:22.58 | Oliver__ | ehm not this version? http://www.junghanns.net/downloads/chan_capi.0.3.5.tar.gz |
| 12:23.05 | Oliver__ | ah ok |
| 12:23.18 | diLLec | RoyK: but it should work anyway. |
| 12:23.29 | Oliver__ | hm |
| 12:23.32 | RoyK | s/should/may/ :P |
| 12:23.35 | Oliver__ | what must use ? *g* |
| 12:23.42 | RoyK | you _must_ nothing |
| 12:23.48 | Oliver__ | hrhr |
| 12:23.50 | Oliver__ | hey (; |
| 12:23.54 | RoyK | but I'd use the latest one from chan-capi.org |
| 12:23.58 | RoyK | :) |
| 12:24.11 | RoyK | there is no must. it's a free world after all |
| 12:24.20 | Oliver__ | hrhr (; |
| 12:24.22 | RoyK | unless you live in the US or other rough nations... |
| 12:24.36 | Oliver__ | i´m german |
| 12:24.38 | Oliver__ | (; |
| 12:24.39 | RoyK | :) |
| 12:24.56 | RoyK | Arbeit macht frei? |
| 12:24.57 | RoyK | :D |
| 12:25.18 | Oliver__ | asterisk is my conclusion project |
| 12:25.39 | Oliver__ | i must install it now and then configure |
| 12:25.47 | Oliver__ | then i must write a documentation |
| 12:25.59 | Oliver__ | and a presentation |
| 12:26.36 | Oliver__ | on sunday i installed the asterisk server with make and make install |
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| 12:27.13 | Oliver__ | now i want a gateway between my auerswald and my voip server asterisk ;) |
| 12:27.29 | Oliver__ | or my hipath 3500 (; |
| 12:28.37 | Oliver__ | ehm RoyK: is the version from junghanns not better for me? |
| 12:29.38 | Oliver__ | i´m a newbie (; |
| 12:30.42 | stoffell | Oliver__, afaik, chan_capi is 'merged' into bristuff (it says that on junghanns website), so you could use bristuff |
| 12:31.34 | Oliver__ | what is bristuff? |
| 12:31.44 | tzafrir | ~bristuff |
| 12:31.55 | jbot | bristuff is probably a patch collection with a hfc-pci driver supporting NT and TE mode ISDN. See http://junghanns.net/ for more info |
| 12:31.55 | RoyK | Oliver__: see junghanns.net |
| 12:31.59 | Oliver__ | bri is isdn4linux or? |
| 12:32.04 | Oliver__ | and stuff hm |
| 12:32.10 | stoffell | Oliver__, no, it's different from isdn4linux |
| 12:32.24 | tzafrir | unrelated to isdn4linux . not related to misdn either |
| 12:32.40 | Oliver__ | ehm ehm ehm *g* so i use what now (;? |
| 12:33.08 | stoffell | Oliver__, if you use a fritz card, you need capi.. so bristuff is possible.. |
| 12:33.24 | Oliver__ | http://www.junghanns.net/downloads/chan_capi.0.3.5.tar.gz this here right? |
| 12:35.01 | Oliver__ | ah i must use this here right? http://www.junghanns.net/downloads/bristuff-0.2.0-RC8q.tar.gz |
| 12:35.31 | stoffell | Oliver__, yes, bristuff, but use the experimental version, specifically this one: http://www.junghanns.net/downloads/bristuff-0.3.0-PRE-1k.tar.gz |
| 12:35.38 | Oliver__ | ok |
| 12:35.43 | Oliver__ | and waht then the config for me |
| 12:35.47 | stoffell | less bugs :) |
| 12:35.47 | Oliver__ | also capi.conf? |
| 12:36.05 | stoffell | capi.conf yes, but I'm not familiar with that (I use bristuff for HFC chipset cards) |
| 12:37.21 | Oliver__ | hm |
| 12:37.29 | Oliver__ | i´m new in this area |
| 12:37.39 | Oliver__ | i must learn it and i have 10000 questions ;) |
| 12:38.12 | stoffell | Oliver__, if you use plain asterisk (from asterisk.org) you can also use the chan-capi.org, it's just a matter of choice :) |
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| 12:40.26 | Oliver__ | yes use the normal asterisk |
| 12:40.32 | Oliver__ | moment i give you a link |
| 12:40.52 | Oliver__ | http://ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/asterisk-1.2.6.tar.gz |
| 12:42.07 | stoffell | yep, that's the one |
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| 12:46.08 | Oliver__ | ehm how can see if my linuxserver have a capi driver? |
| 12:46.24 | Oliver__ | on lsmod i see isdn |
| 12:47.05 | stoffell | Oliver__, search on voip-info.org for fritz or CAPI (or start here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CAPI) |
| 12:47.26 | Oliver__ | thank you mate (; |
| 12:48.51 | Oliver__ | arg on this site find this link ftp://ftp.chan-capi.org/chan-capi/chan_capi-cm-0.6.5.tar.gz |
| 12:48.53 | Oliver__ | blub |
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| 13:09.20 | Oliver__ | root@VoIP:/src# modprobe capi |
| 13:09.20 | Oliver__ | root@VoIP:/src# lsmod |
| 13:09.20 | Oliver__ | Module Size Used by Not tainted |
| 13:09.20 | Oliver__ | capi 6368 0 |
| 13:09.20 | Oliver__ | kernelcapi 30016 1 [capi] |
| 13:09.23 | Oliver__ | tada (; |
| 13:09.26 | Oliver__ | nice one |
| 13:15.00 | Oliver__ | stoffell: what to the hell i must recompile my linux kernel to install my fritz card??? |
| 13:15.14 | Oliver__ | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+AVM+Fritz+CAPI+Driver+Install ? |
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| 13:24.20 | mmmmmToop | anyone connected to Topex GSM channel bank with H323? |
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| 13:26.56 | MoutaPT | hi all, is it possible to reject calls with xlite? |
| 13:34.25 | stoffell | Oliver__, no you don't need to recompile kernel, but you need the kernel sources.. |
| 13:35.18 | stoffell | Oliver__, download the source at http://chan-capi.org/ and read that readme, i think it's more recent |
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| 13:38.54 | mmmmmToop | getting call initiation with H323 chanel..but no audio...any ideas? |
| 13:39.28 | RoyK | h323 is evil |
| 13:39.42 | mmmmmToop | ....I can c y u say that! ; ) |
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| 13:44.26 | Darwin35 | h323/mgcp/skinny = pita |
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| 13:45.23 | bintut | is there such thing as wireless ip headseat phones that is compatible for asterisk? |
| 13:47.06 | coppice | that would be kinda heavy |
| 13:47.50 | bintut | so, it should be a wired ip headseat phones? |
| 13:48.34 | coppice | a bluetooth headset linked to something would be a reasonable solution |
| 13:48.51 | bintut | what product do you know that are cheap enough that are basically compatible to asterisk? |
| 13:50.11 | bintut | coppice: what can you say about the sipura spa1001 <http://www.sipura.com/products/spa1001.htm>? |
| 13:50.51 | bintut | how can i make dials on that sipura spa1001? |
| 13:51.01 | juuva | bintut: it works, thou it's only ata |
| 13:52.45 | bintut | juuva: yeah, it's only an ata and i still need a headseat for that product |
| 13:53.36 | bintut | juuva: what do you recommend for an ip headseat phone that is completely compatible on asterisk? |
| 13:54.41 | bintut | i don't want a softphone.. i want something that looks like a traditional/analog telephone but difference is it's already a headseat not a handseat? |
| 13:54.43 | juuva | it depends, if computer in use, then some softphone and bluetooth headset |
| 13:55.29 | juuva | ata + dect? |
| 13:56.11 | juuva | real wlan-voip-phones are quite expensive |
| 13:57.17 | bintut | juuva: what's dect? well, forget wlan voip phones. it's ok if it's a wired ip phones. all i need is a cheap and functional voip headphones |
| 13:58.45 | juuva | dect is digital "wireless" phone |
| 13:59.01 | bintut | juuva: ok |
| 13:59.09 | coppice | Don't |
| 13:59.11 | coppice | Europeans |
| 13:59.12 | coppice | Cable |
| 13:59.14 | coppice | Telephones? |
| 13:59.28 | juuva | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dect |
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| 14:01.38 | naturalblue | hy all, |
| 14:01.55 | naturalblue | has anyone setup a Snom 360 |
| 14:02.26 | naturalblue | I have it regestering and accepts the first call but wont accept any others, it goes straight to voicemail |
| 14:02.49 | bintut | what can you say about the Sipura SPA-1001? what is the best and cheap headseat you can recommend for that product that has a dialpad? |
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| 14:05.25 | Lino` | headset with dialpad? |
| 14:05.26 | Lino` | wtf? |
| 14:06.09 | bintut | Lino`: i'm not sure.. sorry.. |
| 14:06.20 | Lino` | ;) |
| 14:06.22 | Lino` | what do you want` |
| 14:06.27 | Lino` | what are you looking for? ;) |
| 14:06.37 | bintut | i think i need a standalone voip phone instead of an ata like the sipura spa-1001. what do you think? |
| 14:07.08 | bintut | i'm looking for a voip phone that is compatible to asterisk but it should be a headseat.. |
| 14:07.18 | Lino` | hm? |
| 14:07.24 | Lino` | headset |
| 14:07.26 | juuva | bintut: you want something like this http://www.headsets.com/headsets/corded/headsets/chattaway_oth_05/description.html to desk? |
| 14:07.51 | bintut | just think of a traditional/analog telephones provided by our local PSTNs.. |
| 14:07.57 | Lino` | ok |
| 14:08.03 | Lino` | handset |
| 14:08.05 | Lino` | thats not headset |
| 14:08.06 | Lino` | :-P |
| 14:08.25 | bintut | but i'm looking for a headset not a handset |
| 14:08.32 | Lino` | hm? |
| 14:08.45 | Lino` | so you want to have an earbud and a microphone so that you can phone hands-free ? |
| 14:08.59 | bintut | yes |
| 14:09.03 | Lino` | hmmm |
| 14:09.03 | Lino` | ok |
| 14:09.18 | Lino` | there are many solutions |
| 14:09.24 | bintut | but doesn't need a computer at all.. like an old telephone but this one is a headset |
| 14:09.28 | bintut | like what? |
| 14:09.32 | Lino` | that depends on your budget |
| 14:09.44 | bintut | one concern is it should also be cheap.. for home use.. |
| 14:09.48 | Lino` | ok |
| 14:09.53 | Lino` | that excludes cisco ;) |
| 14:10.01 | Flauto | anyone can advise me on enumlookup? |
| 14:10.17 | Lino` | well |
| 14:10.20 | Flauto | i have an entry for enumlookup in my dialplan |
| 14:10.27 | Lino` | there are those linksys / sipura phones |
| 14:10.33 | Lino` | they are cheap but use cisco parts |
| 14:10.49 | Flauto | but i want to be use it for my regular dialing as well |
| 14:10.55 | bintut | Lino`: precisely! the name itself is already expensive.. i'm ok already on chinese or taiwanese maid products |
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| 14:11.12 | nextime | bintut : why not ata+the one at site pasted by juuva? |
| 14:11.20 | bintut | Lino`: what particular product you can recommend? |
| 14:12.06 | Lino` | http://shop.beronet.com/product_info.php/products_id/112?osCsid=628844c469aa5e489935ae2c58c7678d < |
| 14:12.06 | Lino` | something like that |
| 14:12.06 | Lino` | i dont know how much you want to spend. |
| 14:12.06 | Lino` | you can use almost every phone which has a detachable handset cord |
| 14:12.10 | Lino` | and plug a headset into the jack |
| 14:12.19 | bintut | nextime: i'm checking.. i'm only connected right now on a 28.x kbps dialup connection.. |
| 14:12.39 | bintut | Lino`: less than or equal to USD 100 will do |
| 14:12.59 | Lino` | hm |
| 14:13.09 | Lino` | well that limits the amount of phones ) |
| 14:13.10 | Lino` | ;) |
| 14:13.22 | Lino` | the only phones i know which are <100USD |
| 14:13.27 | Lino` | are those grandstream budgetone |
| 14:13.30 | Lino` | but they suck. |
| 14:13.50 | bintut | Lino`: what about this one? ==> http://sipura.voxilla.com/product_info.php?products_id=33 |
| 14:13.53 | Lino` | (i dont know why, they are ugly, have large keys, seem to be low quality, die with dhcp) |
| 14:14.15 | bintut | Lino`: and maybe change the handseat with a headset. what do you think? |
| 14:14.20 | Lino` | don't know, haven't tested it |
| 14:14.36 | Lino` | i believe that all sipura / linksys phones have a separate headset jack. |
| 14:17.00 | bintut | ok |
| 14:18.07 | bintut | let's say, i'll get the Sipura SPA-841, it really doesn't need a computer right except for the asterisk box? it's already a standalone voip phone right? |
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| 14:19.00 | juuva | bintut: yes, it's standalone phone |
| 14:19.20 | juuva | just plug it to ethernet and configure it |
| 14:19.52 | juuva | thou computer might be needed for configuring |
| 14:20.17 | bintut | juuva: i'll configure it from that phone? it's good enough? |
| 14:20.59 | bintut | juuva: it's ok to use a computer to configure it as long as it is not really dependent for a computer in order to work.. |
| 14:21.27 | juuva | bintut: after configuration it doesn't need computer |
| 14:28.45 | bintut | juuva: cool! thanks.. maybe, i'll get that one.. :) |
| 14:33.30 | Flauto | any advise on enumlookup? |
| 14:33.41 | Flauto | and good place for reading |
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| 14:38.37 | Faithful | anyone got chan_bluetooth working that could lend a hand? |
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| 14:46.42 | naturalblue | hey there |
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| 14:47.30 | naturalblue | i got a grandstream gxp2000 and a snom 360 and neither of them will accept a second call incoming |
| 14:47.51 | naturalblue | they both send calls straight to voicemail. does anyone know why |
| 14:48.02 | naturalblue | i think its a setting on the phone |
| 14:49.58 | bintut | gtg guys.. thanks.. :) |
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| 14:56.11 | wmandra | morning all...... |
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| 15:17.48 | Faithful | naturalblue: I'm not sure but I think that you may need to configure the seperate lines??? |
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| 15:35.29 | naturalblue | faithful: i had it working before |
| 15:35.51 | naturalblue | sureley you dont have to have a phone register its extension 6 times |
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| 15:59.27 | KooG | hi all |
| 16:01.28 | KooG | just a little question about one strange and not understandable thing ... why i can connect directly to a SIP voip provider using a common softphone even if i'm under a Full Cone Nat and i can't do the same thing with asterisk behind a Full Cone Nat ? Asterisk is acting as a sip client as well as the softphone |
| 16:01.38 | KooG | i'm wondering where is the difference ? |
| 16:02.41 | KooG | i can recieve and make calls without forwarding ports from firewall, but i must forward ports if i'm using asterisk ... i can't understand why |
| 16:03.28 | KooG | help or suggestions would be really appreciated |
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| 16:05.35 | KooG | alexis |
| 16:06.19 | alexis101 | Hi guys i have multiple sip client behind a nat firewall and when i try to contact other sip client outside my network i only get one way audio, my asterisk box is not behind a nat firewall ... anyone know hoe i can handle this |
| 16:06.55 | alexis101 | how = how ** |
| 16:07.07 | alexis101 | hoe = how ** |
| 16:07.39 | KooG | alexis do you configure in sip.conf |
| 16:07.49 | KooG | your external clients as nat=yes ? |
| 16:07.56 | alexis101 | yes |
| 16:08.17 | KooG | are you sure your asterisk server is not behind a firewall ? |
| 16:08.38 | alexis101 | yes im sure |
| 16:08.53 | KooG | you can call between sip clients on your voip network ? |
| 16:09.25 | KooG | it's probably a codec problem |
| 16:09.37 | KooG | try forcing g711a ( alaw ) |
| 16:09.45 | KooG | for all your clients |
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| 16:09.51 | alexis101 | well look between the sip client in the same LAN i can but if i try to contact some outside this lan no |
| 16:10.08 | KooG | it's probably a codec problem |
| 16:10.24 | KooG | try forcing the same codec for all clients |
| 16:10.30 | KooG | in your sip.conf |
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| 16:10.54 | KooG | i've a different question |
| 16:11.07 | KooG | we can run asterisk without problems |
| 16:11.14 | KooG | on a public ip |
| 16:11.29 | KooG | no problems with remote clients even they are natted or not |
| 16:11.41 | KooG | no problems with sip providers |
| 16:11.46 | KooG | no problems at all |
| 16:11.50 | KooG | but the question is |
| 16:12.26 | alexis101 | ok but when i bring my ATA box (one of the outside client) inside the network i have no problem to make call with |
| 16:12.54 | KooG | why a sip softphone can communicate directly to a sip server even if it's fully natted and place calls and receive calls, but asterisk needs to have ports forwarded from the firewall to do the same things ??? |
| 16:13.16 | KooG | it' s stupid .. asterisk is doing the same things that a softphone is doing |
| 16:13.28 | alexis101 | it depends on the firewall too |
| 16:13.30 | KooG | why the softphone works without problems and asterisk not ? |
| 16:13.52 | KooG | i know alexis .. but why the softphones don't have problems and asterisk yes ? |
| 16:14.10 | KooG | it's the only thing that i can't understand |
| 16:14.42 | KooG | i can forward needed ports from firewall and solve the problem |
| 16:14.56 | KooG | as we did hundred times |
| 16:15.10 | KooG | but we are still wondering why we need to do that |
| 16:15.23 | alexis101 | well right now my phones have problem :( |
| 16:15.57 | alexis101 | i tried every codecs ... because me too i tought that was my problem |
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| 16:16.09 | KooG | i told u we got the same problem .. we forced the same codecs for all clients and solved it |
| 16:16.15 | KooG | ciao nextimeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 16:16.26 | KooG | how are u ? |
| 16:17.55 | KooG | gotta go |
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| 16:35.41 | Flauto | any advise on enumlookup |
| 16:35.54 | Flauto | i have an entry enum |
| 16:36.06 | Flauto | but i want to use it throughout my dialings |
| 16:36.11 | Flauto | any idea |
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| 16:40.19 | vlrk | in voicemail.conf i am facing a problem with maxsilence field any bodys help will be highly appreciated |
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| 16:43.52 | vlrk | how can we inter relate silencethreshhold value and maxsilence any ideas? |
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| 16:48.10 | tzafrir | Flauto, lookup into a variable and Dial to that result |
| 16:48.36 | Flauto | tzafrir, is there anything i can read? |
| 16:48.40 | Flauto | or to get more info? |
| 16:49.30 | smokes | i keep getting this error while trying to connect idefisk to my ast default setup: |
| 16:49.33 | tzafrir | Flauto, read in voip-info or whatever about using variables in the dialplan |
| 16:49.35 | smokes | Apr 2 12:45:25 NOTICE[2256]: Rejected connect attempt from 192.168.1.2 |
| 16:49.48 | smokes | but its listed as a peer |
| 16:49.55 | Flauto | let me try to find |
| 16:50.02 | tzafrir | Other than that, what am I missing? |
| 16:50.20 | Flauto | i will try to find somethign to read |
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| 16:51.29 | KooG | alexis |
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| 16:57.25 | KooG | just a little question about one strange and not understandable thing ... why i can connect directly to a SIP voip provider using a common softphone even if i'm under a Full Cone Nat and i can't do the same thing with asterisk behind a Full Cone Nat ? Asterisk is acting as a sip client as well as the softphone |
| 16:57.44 | KooG | i'm wondering where is the difference ? |
| 16:57.53 | KooG | i can recieve and make calls without forwarding ports from firewall, but i must forward ports if i'm using asterisk ... i can't understand why |
| 16:58.21 | KooG | any ideas ? |
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| 16:59.16 | KooG | why the softphone always works and asterisk not ? |
| 16:59.18 | shmaltz | KooG, you have nat yes in asterisk? |
| 16:59.29 | KooG | in the general section in sip.conf ? |
| 16:59.32 | KooG | yes of course |
| 16:59.33 | shmaltz | for asterisk not the sip setting |
| 16:59.38 | shmaltz | yes in the general section |
| 16:59.42 | KooG | yes |
| 16:59.45 | shmaltz | and you have localnet set right? |
| 16:59.49 | KooG | w8 |
| 16:59.59 | smokes | 12:59:24 Registering user '3000@192.168.1.113' |
| 16:59.59 | smokes | 12:59:24 Failed registration for '3000@192.168.1.113' |
| 17:00.10 | smokes | what does this mean? |
| 17:00.21 | shmaltz | smokes, you speak english |
| 17:00.21 | smokes | im trying to use the default setup |
| 17:00.41 | smokes | i sure do, but why does it fail...i9m an absolute newb |
| 17:01.07 | KooG | shmaltz |
| 17:01.14 | KooG | can i paste my general section |
| 17:01.16 | shmaltz | KooG, ys |
| 17:01.16 | KooG | in query ? |
| 17:01.23 | shmaltz | KooG, use pb |
| 17:01.26 | shmaltz | ~pb |
| 17:01.28 | jbot | somebody said pb was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
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| 17:02.39 | vlrk | iam bit variable silencethreshhold in the voicemail.conf |
| 17:03.05 | vlrk | iam bit confused with variable silencethreshhold in the voicemail.conf |
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| 17:04.05 | vlrk | does the more threshhold value the more silence detection? |
| 17:04.05 | Darwin35 | what about it |
| 17:04.17 | vlrk | is this way it is going to work? |
| 17:04.38 | vlrk | i tried many ways but maxsilence value is not working for me |
| 17:04.47 | Darwin35 | the higher the value the the strnger the detection |
| 17:04.56 | bkw__ | BULLSHIT |
| 17:05.20 | bkw__ | you're talking about maxsilence on record right? |
| 17:05.31 | bkw__ | isn't that in milliseconds ? |
| 17:05.32 | vlrk | bkw_ yes |
| 17:07.40 | vlrk | so Darwin you mean to say if i put less value in threshold then it will detect very less and chances of ending voicemails will be more is n't it |
| 17:08.55 | bkw__ | I think thats what he ment to say but he sure didn't say it like that |
| 17:10.49 | Darwin35 | vlr yes that is what I ment |
| 17:11.12 | Darwin35 | sorry bky was typing and on th ephone at the same time |
| 17:11.23 | Darwin35 | I could have phrased it better |
| 17:13.37 | Flauto | Apr 2 12:13:05 WARNING[18147]: chan_sip.c:1210 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on transmission ebcd6c37-801b67ba@192.168.0.100 for seqno 102 (Critical Response) |
| 17:13.45 | Flauto | what is this? |
| 17:20.58 | vlrk | darwin: my problem is i kept silencethreshhold as 64 and maxsilence as 5 seconds even though voicemail contiunues to record rather than stop recording |
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| 17:26.33 | Gamercjm | I need to change the ownership of asterisk to another user, Can anyone tell me what folders i need to change besides the configuration files |
| 17:28.46 | SGM | /var/lib/asterisk and /usr/lib/asterisk |
| 17:30.01 | juuva | also /var/log/asterisk |
| 17:30.42 | juuva | and /var/spool/asterisk |
| 17:31.41 | Gamercjm | how can i make chown change all the subdirectory files? |
| 17:31.52 | Abydos313 | -R? |
| 17:31.59 | Gamercjm | oh mmk |
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| 17:34.13 | MIKE999 | !seen aze |
| 17:34.28 | *** part/#asterisk MIKE999 (n=ojkoj@217.201.150.84) |
| 17:34.33 | markit | hi, any known issue with svn? it's 2 days I've errors like "svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/zaptel/!svn/vcc/default'" |
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| 17:35.54 | Gamercjm | hmm just typeing asterisk isnt starting it |
| 17:36.06 | Gamercjm | whats the full location of i |
| 17:36.07 | Gamercjm | it* |
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| 17:41.12 | vlrk | how to use the silence threshhold it s giveing problems |
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| 17:52.12 | Darwin35 | asterisk -vvvvvvgc |
| 17:52.48 | Kernel_Core | is FreePBX 2.0.1 compatible with asterisk 1.2.6 ?! |
| 17:53.07 | _medic_ | Hi.. i've got a problem with wiring my NTBA to the NT-mode card ... can someone point out, what the problem is ? (except that i am a stupid guy, who hasn't any clue, what he's doing) :) |
| 17:54.05 | FuriousGeorge | anyone got multiple * servers with dynamic WAN IPs? |
| 17:54.56 | Darwin35 | fur then you would have to use a dyndns service for them to be found |
| 17:55.39 | FuriousGeorge | i got that |
| 17:55.46 | Darwin35 | and not very reliable or smart |
| 17:55.54 | FuriousGeorge | Darwin35: im just finding IAX very unreliable |
| 17:56.06 | FuriousGeorge | _VERY_ |
| 17:56.49 | FuriousGeorge | was wondering if anyone knew a trick i didnt know |
| 17:57.03 | FuriousGeorge | when my ipchanged, all goes to hell, with or without dyndns |
| 17:57.25 | Darwin35 | colo your server |
| 17:57.30 | russellb | you need to turn on the dns manager |
| 17:57.35 | russellb | dnsmgr.conf i think |
| 17:57.36 | Darwin35 | gt a static ip |
| 17:57.47 | russellb | so that it will actually relook up the IP |
| 17:57.51 | FuriousGeorge | Darwin35: i was hoping for a solution that didnt cost thousands of dollars |
| 17:57.56 | FuriousGeorge | russellb: theres a way to do that! |
| 17:57.58 | FuriousGeorge | brb |
| 17:58.00 | pauldy | anyone use a gxp-2000 here? |
| 17:58.15 | Gamercjm | just typing "asterisk" isnt starting with the new account, says not found.. how can i turn on asterisk? |
| 17:58.56 | FuriousGeorge | russellb: i dont got a dnsmgr.conf, is this something i gotta rebuild |
| 17:58.56 | _medic_ | my NT mode card is wired to the NT1 (NTBA) with an RJ45 plug in the card, and the NT1 has got pure wires clamped into it ... The wires are crossed according jolly's page... |
| 17:59.17 | russellb | FuriousGeorge: no. just cp configs/dnsmgr.conf.sample /etc/asterisk/dnmgr.conf |
| 17:59.30 | naturalblue | hey finally got my bri card working |
| 17:59.39 | naturalblue | all 6 lines work in and out |
| 17:59.54 | *** join/#asterisk oej (n=oej@apollo.webway.se) |
| 17:59.58 | naturalblue | but..... i cant get DIDs working, wont redirect |
| 18:00.02 | naturalblue | any ideas |
| 18:00.38 | _medic_ | the dip switches are set to termination an, but nevertheless my phone doesnt get a dialtone and signals "Failure" after a few seconds |
| 18:03.18 | naturalblue | pauldy: i do |
| 18:03.45 | pauldy | are you running the latest firmware? |
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| 18:04.22 | pauldy | I"m having a problem don;t know if it is hardware or the latest firmware update but the screen stays on after reboot for a few minutes then just goes blank |
| 18:04.31 | pauldy | talking lcd screen not backlight |
| 18:04.39 | FuriousGeorge | russellb: i think dnsmanager is gonna help a lot, nonetheless i may still have the issue that when peers do become unreachable sometimes its a real pain in the butt to get them back |
| 18:04.43 | FuriousGeorge | i gotta stop and start asteris |
| 18:04.45 | FuriousGeorge | k |
| 18:06.09 | naturalblue | pauldy: i seen that written up in www.voip-info.org about the gxp-2000 |
| 18:06.25 | naturalblue | pauldy: how many incoming lines can your take |
| 18:06.28 | pauldy | hrm I will check there then thanks |
| 18:07.01 | naturalblue | when some rings mine its fine but when another call comes in it goes to VM, does show up on line 2/3/4 |
| 18:07.04 | pauldy | don't know haven't tested that yet |
| 18:07.23 | Darwin35 | do yoou have rollover |
| 18:07.27 | pauldy | I"m using two soft lines for blf and the rest are speed dials |
| 18:08.14 | Gamercjm | Unable to open pid file '/var/run/asterisk.pid': Permission denied |
| 18:08.20 | Gamercjm | how can i get permission |
| 18:08.24 | pauldy | run from root |
| 18:08.34 | _medic_ | chown the file |
| 18:08.37 | Gamercjm | i want it to run as a user thats not root |
| 18:08.47 | FuriousGeorge | actually the status is UNKNOWN instead of UNREACHABLE, which appears to be a good thing |
| 18:08.52 | _medic_ | set your additonal group to asterisk |
| 18:08.57 | pauldy | then set the permissions on the dir so the user your runing as can write to it |
| 18:13.54 | *** join/#asterisk linagee (n=linagee@cpe-70-95-248-146.san.res.rr.com) |
| 18:14.10 | linagee | does anyone know if it's possible to use a vonage account to hook into an asterisk box? |
| 18:14.27 | pauldy | yes but it will cost ya |
| 18:14.32 | linagee | pauldy: huh? |
| 18:14.44 | FuriousGeorge | russellb: the status of my peers that werent working has gone from UNREACHABLE to UNKNOWN, but it appears to work pretty consistently |
| 18:14.44 | linagee | pauldy: does vonage charge extra for SIP access or something? |
| 18:14.47 | pauldy | above and beyond the cost associated with the normal account costs |
| 18:14.54 | pauldy | linagee: yes |
| 18:14.58 | linagee | pauldy: darn |
| 18:15.08 | linagee | pauldy: is it worth it? |
| 18:15.11 | pauldy | no |
| 18:15.17 | linagee | pauldy: hm |
| 18:15.18 | FuriousGeorge | russellb: i had to make samples to get the conf, i didnt have it before, but if this works i owe you big time |
| 18:15.27 | russellb | :) |
| 18:15.29 | Gamercjm | hmm now i get Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl exist?) |
| 18:15.37 | Gamercjm | but it does exist and is running |
| 18:15.45 | russellb | don't forget to edit the conf to enable it, hehe |
| 18:15.49 | pauldy | linagee: plenty of BYOD providers out there |
| 18:16.02 | FuriousGeorge | russellb: lol, didnt :) |
| 18:16.03 | linagee | pauldy: i hate that. i want the ability to set up my own voicemail / call routing system, but i want it accessible from the regular POTS too |
| 18:16.27 | pauldy | linagee: no reason you should support vonage then |
| 18:16.55 | linagee | pauldy: asterisk@home should come with some built in recommendations. lol. or reference to a voip provider directory |
| 18:17.30 | Kernel_Core | I am running 1.2.6 , I can't connect with IAXcomm to Asterisk , I get this error : chan_iax2.c:5145 register_verify: Inappropriate authentication received ..... any suggestion ?! |
| 18:17.32 | linagee | pauldy: fsck i want to drop my DSL provider |
| 18:17.42 | pauldy | suggest it on www.sf.net/projects/asteriskathome |
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| 18:18.38 | linagee | pauldy: cablemodem + voip server is cheaper than DSL + phone service |
| 18:18.52 | pauldy | yup |
| 18:19.01 | linagee | pauldy: the numbers come close |
| 18:19.21 | linagee | pauldy: i'm just wondering why my phone bill was $60 this month. argh i am outraged |
| 18:19.32 | *** join/#asterisk websae (n=icechat5@CPE-24-167-204-30.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 18:19.51 | pauldy | cause millions of people have phone numbers |
| 18:20.06 | *** join/#asterisk mahatma (i=hist@ti400720a081-2666.bb.online.no) |
| 18:20.08 | pauldy | and hundreds of companies are trying to figure out ways to get 1 dollar from every person with a phone a years |
| 18:20.17 | linagee | pauldy: we have like 5 SBC offices around the area i believe. (not even counting the COs) |
| 18:20.17 | pauldy | including govermnetns and municipalities |
| 18:20.52 | mahatma | wasn't there an #iaxclient channel on this server? |
| 18:21.18 | tzafrir_laptop | I'm trying to help a newb friend with a SM56 card. Is there any way to make that card work with Zaptel's wcfxo? |
| 18:21.28 | websae | anyone in here push a lot of minutes each month via SIP/IAX trunks --- just curious on your quality.? |
| 18:22.02 | tzafrir_laptop | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/X100P+clone mentions it as a candidate but provides no further details |
| 18:24.49 | pauldy | welp updating to 1.1.0.1 |
| 18:24.54 | pauldy | we will see what that does |
| 18:26.43 | *** part/#asterisk mahatma (i=hist@ti400720a081-2666.bb.online.no) |
| 18:29.33 | pauldy | much better thanks naturalblue |
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| 18:30.43 | Cherebrum | call 1-866-253-0430 pin 4763 for my conference running in a Xen domain with only 128MB of ram. Let's see if we can't break it! |
| 18:33.30 | pauldy | I"m in kewl |
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| 18:36.52 | wulfy814 | does anyone have the "buddy watch" feature working with the latest Asterisk and the latest Polycom firmware (1.65)? |
| 18:37.03 | pauldy | buddy watch? |
| 18:37.07 | Cherebrum | I have it working |
| 18:37.11 | wulfy814 | I thought I had it, however shortly after the phones register they lose registration |
| 18:37.38 | wulfy814 | Cherebrum: which firmware and * version? |
| 18:38.50 | Cherebrum | the buddy watch stuff sorta works.. you have to use hints |
| 18:38.56 | Cherebrum | and enable the featuer on the phone |
| 18:39.07 | Cherebrum | it only tells you onhook or offhook |
| 18:39.27 | linagee | pauldy: 768Kilobit DSL (locked in contract AFAIK) = $17.16, phone bill = $11.03. 6Mbit cable (RR) = $29.95/mo, voip = ? |
| 18:39.30 | Cherebrum | I wish someone would write a subscription server for asterisk |
| 18:40.01 | wulfy814 | I put the hints in and they seemed to work for a short amount of time |
| 18:40.02 | linagee | pauldy: hrm. cable is actually a dollar more without even including voip |
| 18:40.18 | wulfy814 | then neither phone I'm testing it on could make any calls, they had lost their registration it appeared |
| 18:40.41 | Cherebrum | yea.. I'm not to impressed with hints |
| 18:41.11 | Cherebrum | we're working on writing our own subscription server outside of asterisk to make that stuff work right on the polycoms |
| 18:41.31 | wulfy814 | we're = ? |
| 18:41.33 | linagee | pauldy: darn. if i wasn't stuck in a contract (AFAIk) i would drop DSL, use cable and existing cell service for calls |
| 18:41.35 | Cherebrum | we'll just register the phones thru openser and handle subsciptions there |
| 18:42.02 | *** part/#asterisk GraNNy- (i=rachel@ussenterprise.ufp.org) |
| 18:42.16 | Cherebrum | then you get more than just offhook and onhook and you can set the state from an external app |
| 18:42.28 | Cherebrum | like say for example you want to use the agent login/logout softkeys |
| 18:42.43 | Cherebrum | I can set state for those in my subscription server from an external app |
| 18:43.26 | Cherebrum | and you can set your away status to "out to lunch" or something |
| 18:43.40 | Cherebrum | and it would indicate that on all the phones that are subscribed to your phone |
| 18:44.02 | wulfy814 | with you, that would be nice |
| 18:44.23 | Cherebrum | Polycom has some pretty sweet stuff that they can do but unforturnately without a total re-write of the sip channel I don't think they will be supported in asterisk anytime soon |
| 18:44.32 | wulfy814 | when I said we're = ?, who are you working with ? |
| 18:44.39 | Cherebrum | guys at work |
| 18:44.48 | wulfy814 | something you'll release or internal? |
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| 18:44.54 | Cherebrum | We'll see |
| 18:45.06 | Cherebrum | it's not up to me. |
| 18:45.17 | Cherebrum | altho I will recommend releasing it |
| 18:45.18 | Cherebrum | ;) |
| 18:46.30 | Cherebrum | I was in Chicago last week taking an Adtran certification course on the new NetVanta 7100 PBX they seem to be on a path to support some of the presence stuff the polycom phones do |
| 18:46.58 | rpuls | Hi everybody... |
| 18:46.59 | rpuls | I hope somebody can give me hint: my asterisk is sitting behind a nat gateway and tries to connect to an external SIP proxy. Unfortunately, the request includes the local IP address of my host, not the external ip address as specified in 'externalhost' from my sip.conf. Any hints on that? |
| 18:47.01 | rpuls | REGISTER sip:sip.1und1.de SIP/2.0 |
| 18:47.02 | rpuls | Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.0.0.1:15060;branch=z9hG4bK7c797ac2;rport |
| 18:47.04 | rpuls | Thanks! |
| 18:47.26 | Cherebrum | nat=yes maybe |
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| 18:47.57 | rpuls | @cherebrum: nat=yes is set in the default section... ;-( |
| 18:48.09 | Cherebrum | what kind of rotuer are you using? |
| 18:48.15 | Cherebrum | some cisco and adtran routers have a SIP ALG |
| 18:48.25 | rpuls | It's a fritzbox 7050 |
| 18:49.04 | talljon84 | I'm having problems with making an outbound SIP call on my * box. It rings the remote phone across SIP but then fails when the person attempts to answer. The console ends with == Spawn extension (macro-dialout-trunk, s, 14) exited non-zero on 'SIP/28-e996' in macro 'dialout-trunk'. Anyone have ideas? |
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| 18:49.12 | Cherebrum | do you know if it has a SIP ALG? |
| 18:49.56 | rpuls | The one thing that makes me wonder is that aparently a lot of people are using asterisk from behind a NAT gw, but apperenty the SIP registration is alwayws performed with the local ip address (10.0.0.1), not with the official IP address as specified in externalhost. |
| 18:50.15 | Cherebrum | rpuls: yea.. that's the way sip works |
| 18:50.16 | rpuls | cherebrum: no, it has no SIP NAT rules, unforntunately. |
| 18:50.42 | Cherebrum | sip doesn't play well with nat |
| 18:51.00 | Cherebrum | maybe you sip provider has a session border controller you can use |
| 18:51.08 | Cherebrum | fer end nat traversal |
| 18:51.28 | Cherebrum | or maybe you can find something that does near end nat traversal |
| 18:51.34 | Cherebrum | maybe sipproxd can do it |
| 18:52.29 | rpuls | cherebrum: no, it should not work like that. Thre sip proxy answers with a message like: |
| 18:52.31 | rpuls | *CLI> |
| 18:52.32 | rpuls | <-- SIP read from 212.227.15.197:5060: |
| 18:52.34 | rpuls | SIP/2.0 403 Keine RFC1918-IPs erlaubt |
| 18:52.36 | rpuls | which means he does not like RFC 1918 (=private = non-routable) addresses. My problem is: my asterisk does not use it's external IP address |
| 18:53.24 | rpuls | NAT shouldn't be a problem as long as I take the world-reachable address with correct port forwardings on the NAT gw. right? ;-) |
| 18:53.32 | Cherebrum | beause they can't contact you back at 10.0.0.1 |
| 18:53.59 | Cherebrum | you are telling them you want to be contacted at 10.0.0.1 when you send them a sip package |
| 18:54.02 | Cherebrum | er packet |
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| 18:54.43 | Cherebrum | even if you do get sip working over nat good luck getting RTP to work |
| 18:55.02 | Cherebrum | best thing to do is give the asterisk box a public ip |
| 18:55.20 | rpuls | yes, absolutely right. So the question is: how to let asterisk know that it should take my external IP (that from the nat gateway). |
| 18:55.49 | rpuls | RTP is not a deal: port forwarding within from the nat gw with a specified port range to the local IP address. |
| 18:55.58 | Cherebrum | sure you can do that |
| 18:56.00 | file[laptop] | externip=external ip address |
| 18:56.05 | file[laptop] | localnet=blah |
| 18:56.15 | file[laptop] | localnet=192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0 |
| 18:56.18 | Cherebrum | file: you worked on the polycom hints stuff didn't you? |
| 18:56.21 | file[laptop] | that's an example... |
| 18:56.27 | file[laptop] | Cherebrum: can't say I did |
| 18:56.39 | file[laptop] | and even if I did I wouldn't admit it, because then you would ask a question |
| 18:56.45 | Cherebrum | file: I thought Kristian gave you some polycom sets for working on that |
| 18:56.57 | file[laptop] | not on hints... but hints should work now... |
| 18:57.21 | Cherebrum | It seems the polycom sets are happiest when you just run a subscription server for them |
| 18:57.30 | Cherebrum | and let them talk to each other for state |
| 18:57.46 | rpuls | hehe, ok guys: If I put in my external IP address (which changes every 24 hours) everything is working as expected. But I need to give asterisk a DNS name (e.g. via "externalname" directive which apparently does not work). |
| 18:57.53 | file[laptop] | externhost |
| 18:58.06 | rpuls | sorry, typo on my side ;( |
| 18:58.20 | file[laptop] | it does work, it just caches the IP address... so it'll need to look it up again |
| 18:59.07 | rpuls | ok, just to be sure: if I use externIP, everything works, if I set up externhost, it uses the internal IP address. |
| 18:59.16 | rpuls | ah, maybe a DNS problem... need to check that! |
| 18:59.23 | Qwell | rpuls: it uses whatever the hostname resolves to |
| 18:59.29 | Cherebrum | check your /etc/hosts file |
| 18:59.56 | Cherebrum | by default most linux distros check that before dns |
| 19:00.01 | file[laptop] | yeah |
| 19:00.12 | markit | hi, any known issue with svn? it's 2 days I've errors like "svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/zaptel/!svn/vcc/default'" |
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| 19:00.21 | file[laptop] | markit: it's being fixed |
| 19:00.35 | rpuls | stupid... apparently, suse added an entry ;( |
| 19:00.40 | markit | file[laptop]: ok, thanks, I'll try right now |
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| 19:01.03 | markit | mm not fixed yet |
| 19:01.23 | Flauto | anyone can help me with enum |
| 19:01.28 | Flauto | i tried to use enum |
| 19:01.51 | wulfy814 | Cherebrum: where do you work? |
| 19:01.56 | Flauto | but no matter it is successful or not, it is always telling successful |
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| 19:03.17 | Cherebrum | wulfy814: www.zentality.com |
| 19:03.53 | rpuls | cherebrum and file[laptop]: sorry, it's really been an issue with /etc/hosts where I found a static mapping ... |
| 19:04.27 | Flauto | and it does not go further down if i put the enum entry in front of other trunks to dial out |
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| 19:07.15 | Givur | Hi all |
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| 19:11.09 | Cherebrum | telcodata kicks ass! Thank you Paul Timmins! |
| 19:11.41 | mocker | telcodata? |
| 19:11.49 | Cherebrum | www.telcodata.us |
| 19:12.48 | MoutaPT | my kernel buffers are using 500M RAM could this take me to troubles? |
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| 19:14.01 | generalhan | hey guys whats up |
| 19:14.11 | generalhan | i have a huge issue that i need some assistance with please |
| 19:15.07 | generalhan | i just bought Digiums 4 port FXS card and found out that the stupid dell server that i installed it in doesnt use Modular power connectors so now i cant set the card up ... what am i suposed to do ? |
| 19:15.23 | Qwell | generalhan: hack one up |
| 19:16.26 | generalhan | what do you mean ? |
| 19:16.47 | Qwell | got wire cutters? |
| 19:17.05 | generalhan | see this server has hotswap power supplies, so the PS doesnt have plugs ... it just slides into a slot that feeds the mother board from there |
| 19:17.10 | generalhan | so there are NO plugs at all |
| 19:17.17 | dhthomas | ingredients: 1 multimeter, 1 wirecutters, 1 solderingiron |
| 19:17.18 | Qwell | Then you're pretty much screwed |
| 19:17.23 | *** part/#asterisk markit (n=konversa@host119-245.pool8172.interbusiness.it) |
| 19:17.24 | generalhan | SHIT |
| 19:17.45 | generalhan | i really wish i hadnt told my boss i had his fax problems figured out |
| 19:17.54 | dhthomas | hehe |
| 19:17.55 | generalhan | back to square one $300 poorer |
| 19:18.22 | generalhan | hes gonna kill me |
| 19:18.39 | generalhan | this is crappy, who makes a server that cant use power cables ? |
| 19:18.44 | Qwell | Dell |
| 19:18.46 | dhthomas | dell ;) |
| 19:18.49 | generalhan | i guess |
| 19:19.04 | generalhan | damnit im pissed, i wanna throw that thing out the window now |
| 19:19.17 | dhthomas | don't do that. kills the return value |
| 19:19.35 | generalhan | ok well i better call him |
| 19:19.38 | generalhan | thanks guys |
| 19:19.45 | dhthomas | sorry |
| 19:19.55 | generalhan | not your fault .... lol. STUPID DELL |
| 19:21.14 | Cherebrum | I'm a HP Proliant fan.. their raid cards work VERY WELL with linux |
| 19:22.10 | Darwin35 | Dddell onz |
| 19:22.20 | Darwin35 | fat fingers |
| 19:24.04 | Givur | I have a question regarding the CDR System. I use the CSV and mySQL CDR's, both shows everytime a 'ANSWER', also when nobody picks up. So, my question now: Can I manually set this field like I can do that with the Amaflag? I have think about a way to make a if() for the dialstatus after the dial() |
| 19:24.50 | Cherebrum | every dell server I ever bought each had a different raid chip in them |
| 19:24.58 | Cherebrum | and none of them ever worked with linux |
| 19:25.02 | Cherebrum | without using software raid |
| 19:25.04 | Cherebrum | ew! |
| 19:25.58 | file | Givur, what's the technology? |
| 19:27.19 | Givur | file: Dial() is using IAX2 with Music-On-Hold. |
| 19:27.46 | file | I think you should figure out why it's coming out as answer |
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| 19:28.27 | voipmasta | Hi there |
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| 19:29.05 | mmmmmToop | hi |
| 19:29.29 | voipmasta | I have a question, we are about to deploy an asterisk server in the Netherlands, should we send our outgoing calls to our termination provider in the US? Will it decrease audio quality or increase the delay? |
| 19:29.59 | file | voipmasta, well it's going over the public internet unless you have a private link so all bets are off |
| 19:30.33 | voipmasta | file: what would be better? to send calls to our current termination provider in the US or to get a new termination provider in Europe? |
| 19:31.08 | file | test US and see if it's acceptable to you... but realize that there may be problems in the future due to the longer path calls will take |
| 19:31.22 | file | or use Europe and still realize it's going over the public internet, but shorter path |
| 19:31.54 | voipmasta | do you know about any good wholesale termination provider in EU? |
| 19:32.14 | file | 3utelecom is a popular one |
| 19:32.30 | voipmasta | do you have the url to their website? |
| 19:32.38 | mocker | Is there a channel dedicated to dundi? |
| 19:32.39 | voipmasta | whois file |
| 19:32.44 | voipmasta | sorry |
| 19:32.45 | file | 3utelecom.com |
| 19:33.06 | Givur | 3UTelcom does VoIP too? |
| 19:33.22 | file | yes they do... they just don't advertise it freely |
| 19:33.27 | file | openly... readily... |
| 19:33.39 | Givur | Good to know. |
| 19:34.38 | voipmasta | their rates seem to be too expensive |
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| 19:34.52 | file | the rates on the site are not for VoIP termination |
| 19:34.58 | voipmasta | ohh I see |
| 19:35.00 | file | you have to contact them |
| 19:35.13 | voipmasta | I'll email them ASAP |
| 19:41.48 | file | Katty: meep? |
| 19:42.32 | Givur | file: Btw. I know why I get everytime a answer, I use playback() before the hangup is to remember the people on some important points. |
| 19:42.48 | file | Givur, you can have Playback go without answering |
| 19:43.21 | file | Playback(filename|noanswer) |
| 19:43.44 | Givur | Eeks? |
| 19:43.54 | file | just try it... |
| 19:44.16 | Givur | I should really read the documentation more carefully. |
| 19:44.50 | mmmmmToop | why would you ever want to use playback without answering? |
| 19:45.01 | file | early media |
| 19:45.16 | file | so you can play back a recording... like, "this number is invalid" without actually answering |
| 19:46.16 | Givur | *cheers* :) |
| 19:46.26 | mmmmmToop | ok...think I got it |
| 19:46.33 | Givur | It works, thank you file :) |
| 19:46.53 | voipmasta | that's a cool tip, I hadn't thought about using noanswer |
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| 19:51.39 | Givur | That means also that I can't user Answer() to have this No-Answer information, right? |
| 19:51.55 | file | rephrase that so it makes sense to me |
| 19:52.16 | file | if you execute Answer(), the channel is answered. the CDR records will reflect that |
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| 19:52.26 | zimdog | afternoon all |
| 19:52.30 | Givur | *nods* That I mean. |
| 19:53.55 | zimdog | How can I set a variable in an agi script to the sip context? |
| 19:54.13 | Katty | file: i'm kinda having a bad day. |
| 19:54.18 | file | Katty: :( |
| 19:54.26 | file | zimdog, that made no sense to me... |
| 19:54.39 | Givur | Have the MusicOnHold System something similar to the 'noanswer'? |
| 19:56.19 | mmmmmToop | zimdoc: have u tried using the ${CHANNEL} varible...not the context...but channel will help |
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| 19:58.28 | zimdog | file: I am using amp and there is a field called context that I have set for an extension. I then created a custom trunk that that extension will dial out of. This all works great except when they use call forward. the dialagi script is hard coded to from-internal. What I would like to do is have it use the context for this extension. |
| 19:59.09 | zimdog | mmmmmToop: I will give that a try |
| 20:04.41 | zimdog | mmmmmToop: I am trying to grab a context from sip.conf. Is this set as a variable that is available |
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| 20:10.57 | zimdog | Is the context from sip.conf available as a variable? |
| 20:11.33 | zimdog | for each definition that is |
| 20:13.11 | zimdog | anybody? |
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| 20:21.50 | Givur | *hmms*. So when I see right I can use the Music-On-Hold only when the line get answered, and when the line get answered I loose the 'real' CDR Information. |
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| 20:25.49 | vazir | Hey guys, anyone can help me with transfers, on incoming call when secretary presses "flash" second time, asterisk conferences calls, while I don't want to create conference and want original call to be just returned to a secretary! |
| 20:26.15 | vazir | how to set it to not create conference at all? |
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| 20:27.48 | vazir | <vazir> Hey guys, anyone can help me with transfers, on incoming call when secretary presses "flash" second time, asterisk conferences calls, while I don't want to create conference and want original call to be just returned to a secretary! |
| 20:27.49 | vazir | <vazir> how to set it to not create conference at all? |
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| 20:30.36 | vazir | anyone alive? |
| 20:30.46 | dhthomas | barely |
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| 20:46.28 | Darwin35 | nope |
| 20:46.36 | Darwin35 | just all us dead people |
| 20:47.09 | Darwin35 | we all died from the asterisk bugg |
| 20:48.00 | vazir | i suspected that... |
| 20:48.51 | Darwin35 | or as some call it the gasterisk bug |
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| 20:49.43 | Gamercjm | is there anything cool i can do with asterisk.. cuz im really bored |
| 20:50.21 | Darwin35 | install festival |
| 20:50.26 | Darwin35 | make it speak |
| 20:50.42 | Darwin35 | install sphinx and make it use voice command |
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| 20:51.07 | voipmasta | sphinx? |
| 20:51.10 | Darwin35 | write new exten logic |
| 20:51.32 | Darwin35 | yes sphinx |
| 20:51.57 | Gamercjm | why would i need it to understand my voice? |
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| 20:52.11 | Gamercjm | i dont even need extension commands |
| 20:52.12 | Darwin35 | voice command dialing |
| 20:52.15 | dhthomas | because you're bored |
| 20:53.02 | Darwin35 | hook up a vibrator to the serial port and use it so you know when the phone rings |
| 20:53.12 | voipmasta | Gamercjm: install asterwake and use your asterisk box as an alarm clock :) |
| 20:53.23 | Gamercjm | lol |
| 20:55.13 | Gamercjm | i wish that voice changer was still being worked on |
| 20:55.23 | Gamercjm | i wanted to add taht but its only for 1.2.0 |
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| 20:58.09 | voipmasta | right now I'm coding a dating system using asterisk and php-agi, at least it's a nice way to keep myself busy |
| 20:58.45 | Darwin35 | a dateing system |
| 20:59.05 | ldnblk | hi there voipmasta , tell us more about your dating system ? |
| 20:59.08 | voipmasta | yes, like those "meet friends" or "find a partner" systems |
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| 20:59.29 | Darwin35 | hoow much you gonna charge for it |
| 20:59.32 | voipmasta | ldnblk: it asks each caller for his/her user number and PIN (provided previously) |
| 20:59.51 | voipmasta | Darwin35: maybe I will release it under the BSD license |
| 20:59.56 | voipmasta | that means free of charge |
| 20:59.59 | Darwin35 | ahh ok |
| 21:00.20 | Darwin35 | hpoe its well documented in the code |
| 21:00.31 | voipmasta | I wouldn't count on that |
| 21:00.34 | Darwin35 | so others can help in it once oyu have a basic ver |
| 21:00.35 | voipmasta | since I'm a messy coder |
| 21:00.41 | voipmasta | and I do never comment my code :( |
| 21:00.49 | Darwin35 | bad boy |
| 21:00.57 | ldnblk | very bad |
| 21:01.08 | voipmasta | I write about 2500 lines of code every single day |
| 21:01.16 | voipmasta | do you know how long it would take me to document all that code? |
| 21:01.17 | ldnblk | hope u are not a goto fan ? |
| 21:01.25 | voipmasta | no, not a goto fan |
| 21:01.50 | voipmasta | I code for about 12 hours a day, Mon-Sun |
| 21:01.55 | ldnblk | has anybody heard of envox ? |
| 21:01.56 | Darwin35 | doxigen is your friend |
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| 21:02.19 | loko | someone needs to code a better timing system so that asterisk works in virtual envirnoment =) |
| 21:02.33 | voipmasta | I coded a "dial-an-horoscope" system 2 days ago |
| 21:02.52 | Darwin35 | like to see that |
| 21:02.56 | Darwin35 | sounds cool |
| 21:02.56 | ldnblk | how many lines was that voipmaster ? |
| 21:03.00 | voipmasta | you dial an extension, enter your birthdate and it will provide you with your horoscope :) |
| 21:03.16 | voipmasta | ldnblk: about 600 lines in the PHP-AGI plus the database |
| 21:03.22 | voipmasta | it uses mysql as db backend |
| 21:03.23 | Darwin35 | does it read it from a file |
| 21:03.30 | Darwin35 | grrr |
| 21:03.37 | voipmasta | Darwin35: nope, a database |
| 21:03.38 | Darwin35 | have to edit it for pgsql |
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| 21:04.03 | voipmasta | that way I can update/modify the horoscopes in real time without having to edit any single file (can do it from a website) |
| 21:04.14 | Darwin35 | cool |
| 21:04.31 | voipmasta | right now it stores the audio inside the database |
| 21:04.40 | Gamercjm | try this http://project-r.happyorange.us .. click on the link at teh bottom |
| 21:04.51 | voipmasta | since I did it in spanish (and festival is crappy when you try to use it with a foregin language) |
| 21:04.54 | Gamercjm | just enter your info to test, doesnt need to be a friends |
| 21:05.25 | vazir | Men, anyway to disable conferencing (like disable 3waycalling) but keep way to aquire second channel and switch between parties? |
| 21:06.02 | bsdfreak | =] |
| 21:06.06 | voipmasta | Gamercjm: does it accept intl numbers? |
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| 21:06.12 | Gamercjm | just US |
| 21:06.19 | voipmasta | too bad, I'm in Mexico |
| 21:06.24 | Gamercjm | damn lol |
| 21:07.11 | jasonpr | Hey everyone does the Manager command originate queue the calls? |
| 21:07.16 | Gamercjm | it gives you a link, u give that link to the person, then they watch the video on the link(which is "the ring" video tape) and right after its done, it calls you saying ur gonna die and stuff |
| 21:07.32 | voipmasta | cool |
| 21:08.04 | Darwin35 | we need a space where all these apps can be stored |
| 21:08.09 | Darwin35 | and displayed |
| 21:08.10 | voipmasta | It should surely scare the crap out of some users LoL |
| 21:08.18 | Gamercjm | lol it has |
| 21:08.26 | voipmasta | Darwin35: sounds like a project to me :) |
| 21:08.29 | Qwell | [av]bani: better? |
| 21:08.54 | voipmasta | Gamercjm: does it place the calls through Asterisk? |
| 21:08.59 | Gamercjm | yah |
| 21:09.20 | vazir | does they stream video over asterisk? |
| 21:09.26 | voipmasta | Listen guys, if I register a domain name and sponsor the website with hosting/design, would you be willing to "publish" your "asterisk based or assisted" apps? |
| 21:09.35 | vazir | did i understood correctly? |
| 21:09.53 | voipmasta | vazir, no, it displays the video through the Internet, but places the call using asterisk |
| 21:10.09 | vazir | oh, i see |
| 21:10.15 | voipmasta | Gamercjm? Darwin35? what do you think about that? |
| 21:10.31 | Gamercjm | I dont really have any apps to contribute |
| 21:10.31 | Darwin35 | ? |
| 21:10.43 | voipmasta | Gamercjm: the r-project is yours right? |
| 21:10.46 | Gamercjm | yah |
| 21:10.58 | Darwin35 | its one to contrib |
| 21:10.58 | vazir | maybe anyone on -dev will want to do so |
| 21:11.05 | vazir | apss is ia dev stuff |
| 21:11.17 | voipmasta | vazir, no because these aren't apps for asterisk |
| 21:11.21 | voipmasta | but apps that use asterisk |
| 21:11.27 | Darwin35 | I will have to lease a server and make it a asterisk-apps.com |
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| 21:11.42 | voipmasta | Darwin35: I can provide hosting/design/domain |
| 21:11.58 | Gamercjm | do you already have a host? |
| 21:12.05 | voipmasta | yup |
| 21:12.11 | voipmasta | I have over 80 servers :) |
| 21:12.16 | Darwin35 | how much |
| 21:12.26 | voipmasta | how much... what? |
| 21:12.30 | voipmasta | I wouldn't carge for it |
| 21:12.32 | Gamercjm | i was gona say u could host it on my server... but nvm lol |
| 21:12.54 | ldnblk | voipmasta are u a hosting org ? |
| 21:12.59 | voipmasta | I just want to help "spread the word" about asterisk and to let others know that it's actually fun to use asterisk |
| 21:13.02 | voipmasta | ldnblk yup |
| 21:13.50 | Darwin35 | yes it is |
| 21:14.11 | Gamercjm | voipmasta: what do you have in mind for the domain |
| 21:14.13 | Gamercjm | name |
| 21:14.25 | voipmasta | what do you think about ASTERtoys.com |
| 21:14.29 | voipmasta | toys for asterisk LoL |
| 21:14.34 | Darwin35 | thats cool |
| 21:14.46 | voipmasta | do you like it? |
| 21:14.59 | Gamercjm | sounds good |
| 21:15.27 | ldnblk | voipmasta london calling here, I would like to participate at some point in your project |
| 21:15.35 | voipmasta | sure |
| 21:15.36 | voipmasta | :) |
| 21:16.23 | ldnblk | voipmasta do you have gui's for easier configuring of asterisk ? |
| 21:16.25 | Darwin35 | I can donate time and some money not alot |
| 21:16.41 | Darwin35 | but we need a place to consolidate all the apps |
| 21:16.53 | voipmasta | ok, the domain name has been registered :) |
| 21:17.16 | vazir | I'll try to run telephony part of our NGN on Asterisk. Do you think it will work out? |
| 21:17.24 | voipmasta | NGN? |
| 21:17.31 | vazir | yea |
| 21:17.38 | voipmasta | what's NGN? |
| 21:17.43 | vazir | why not? |
| 21:17.55 | vazir | NextGenerationNetwork |
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| 21:18.39 | ldnblk | vazir: when u say ngn is that 3gpp ? |
| 21:19.25 | vazir | not really. 3gpp is mobile oriented (am i right?) |
| 21:19.49 | vazir | NGN in ISP world |
| 21:19.50 | ldnblk | vazir: yep thats right |
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| 21:20.23 | ldnblk | vazir: so what technologies make up ngn ? |
| 21:20.33 | vazir | voice+video+data |
| 21:20.33 | Darwin35 | voip you get my msg |
| 21:20.56 | Gamercjm | im still kinda bored.. anymore thing to play with? |
| 21:20.56 | ldnblk | yes to all the above :-) |
| 21:21.45 | bsdfreak | stab |
| 21:22.18 | voipmasta | Gamercjm: Could you help desigining a new logo for astertoys? :) |
| 21:22.20 | vazir | I'm quite interested, are there any example in the world of usage of such products as asterisk, VLC and so to drive NGN |
| 21:22.59 | Gamercjm | umm lol, im more of a code person, Im not that good at logos and stuff |
| 21:23.10 | voipmasta | oks, I will start working on the logo |
| 21:24.00 | Gamercjm | my website is like just a gradient cuz i couldnt thing of designs lol www.chrismendes.com |
| 21:24.02 | Darwin35 | brb |
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| 21:25.34 | diablopico | hello |
| 21:25.57 | Gamercjm | hola |
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| 21:26.50 | diablopico | can anyone hlep with connecting / authentication with realtime and mysql ? |
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| 21:27.55 | diablopico | i need to know what fields realtime uses to authenticate users for registration |
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| 21:28.22 | bbj_ | ave |
| 21:28.32 | bbj_ | having a problem checking out svn |
| 21:28.54 | bbj_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.54 | bbj_ | svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/asterisk/branches/1.2' |
| 21:28.54 | bbj_ | svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/asterisk/branches/1.2': Could not resolve hostname `svr.digium.com': Host not found (http://svr.digium.com) |
| 21:28.56 | diablopico | svn ? |
| 21:28.59 | bbj_ | any clues? |
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| 21:29.11 | Strom_C | bbj_, you made a TYPO |
| 21:29.19 | bbj_ | erk |
| 21:29.21 | bbj_ | where? |
| 21:29.27 | heka | Hello, anybody can help me about sip jitter buffer patch? |
| 21:29.28 | Strom_C | should be svn.digium.com |
| 21:29.28 | file | svr is not svn |
| 21:29.53 | bbj_ | thats the way it is on the freepbx install notes |
| 21:30.14 | Strom_C | bbj_, this should be your indication that you should RUN, not walk, from freepbx |
| 21:30.16 | file | then go complain to them |
| 21:30.30 | Strom_C | if they can't even get their install notes correct, just imagine how boneheaded the rest of the software will be! |
| 21:30.35 | bbj_ | and it def aint svr |
| 21:31.10 | voipmasta | Gamercjm: any ideas on a moto/slogan for this new project? |
| 21:31.20 | bbj_ | i've gone through the subversion trees on the website and all looks ok |
| 21:31.27 | *** join/#asterisk wunderkin (n=kev@ip68-226-113-228.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 21:31.38 | Gamercjm | i liked what you said .. like "Toys for Asterisk" or something |
| 21:32.30 | file | bbj_, the error you pasted has svr.digium.com just use svn.digium.com and it will work |
| 21:32.41 | bbj_ | ah |
| 21:32.43 | bbj_ | there |
| 21:32.45 | bbj_ | thanx |
| 21:32.49 | diablopico | can anyone help with realtime mysql user registration ( i get "wrong password" or "bad auth" ) anyone ? |
| 21:33.17 | bbj_ | he - still get the error though |
| 21:33.33 | Strom_C | bbj_, if you can't think around simple problems, you're not going to have much fun with this stuff |
| 21:33.50 | Strom_C | bbj_, show us what you're typing at the command line |
| 21:34.04 | bbj_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.21 | bbj_ | and then the error |
| 21:34.24 | bbj_ | svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/asterisk/branches/1.2' |
| 21:34.25 | bbj_ | svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/asterisk/branches/1.2': Could not parse response status line. (http://svn.digium.com) |
| 21:34.47 | file | are you behind an HTTP proxy? |
| 21:34.51 | bbj_ | some of the other docs i see mention cvs ? did asterisk switch to svn recently ? |
| 21:34.57 | bbj_ | no proxy |
| 21:35.11 | file | we switched to SVN... many many many months ago |
| 21:35.31 | diablopico | can anyone help with realtime mysql user registration ( i get "wrong password" or "bad auth" ) anyone ? |
| 21:35.53 | Strom_C | diablopico, please don't repeat the same question endlessly |
| 21:36.00 | bbj_ | put it this way - i dont have a proxy, but my service provider has a transparent proxy that you cant bypass |
| 21:36.00 | Strom_C | if anyone knows the answer, they'll offer their help |
| 21:36.07 | file | bbj_, that's probably why |
| 21:36.39 | bbj_ | whats the problem with a proxy? i use other svn and cvs sources just fine |
| 21:37.16 | file | it's going over HTTP... which it then goes through the proxy and the proxy probably doesn't understand SVN stuff |
| 21:37.28 | file | if we were using the SVN daemon that uses a separate port, then it would be fine |
| 21:37.56 | bbj_ | hmmm i noticed this as well. my other sources do use the svn port |
| 21:38.16 | bbj_ | ok i'll work with the tarballs instead |
| 21:38.43 | bbj_ | thanx file |
| 21:38.45 | file | aye |
| 21:39.01 | voipmasta | http://www.astertoys.com/ <--- Please let me know what you think about it |
| 21:39.14 | Gamercjm | lol |
| 21:39.20 | Gamercjm | batteries not included |
| 21:39.25 | Gamercjm | tahts good |
| 21:39.38 | voipmasta | do you like it? |
| 21:39.42 | Gamercjm | yah |
| 21:39.53 | voipmasta | it kinda keeps the "asterisk concept" but with a fun twist |
| 21:40.05 | vazir | diablopico,heck version of your mysql and so - there are changes in crypt (or sor) behavior |
| 21:40.11 | *** part/#asterisk vazir (i=anton@82.198.21.17) |
| 21:40.20 | Gamercjm | did u us photoshop? |
| 21:40.23 | voipmasta | nope |
| 21:40.25 | Gamercjm | use* |
| 21:40.30 | Gamercjm | what did u use? |
| 21:40.35 | voipmasta | Paint shop pro |
| 21:40.39 | Gamercjm | oh |
| 21:40.51 | Gamercjm | see i cant make nice little logos :p |
| 21:41.28 | Gamercjm | so about the actual site, how are we gonna have that setup |
| 21:41.43 | voipmasta | I was thinking about developing a small CMS |
| 21:42.10 | Gamercjm | mmk |
| 21:42.11 | voipmasta | with user registration for developers/coders |
| 21:42.13 | voipmasta | a small forum |
| 21:42.30 | voipmasta | but I wouldn't like it to be forum-based |
| 21:42.40 | voipmasta | like those were there's a new thread for each singe piece of code |
| 21:42.59 | voipmasta | where |
| 21:44.02 | voipmasta | or would it be better to make it wiki-based? |
| 21:44.22 | Strom_C | ~thebook |
| 21:44.27 | jbot | [thebook] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony, released under a Creative Commons license and available at http://www.asteriskdocs.org << Read the book online! |
| 21:44.30 | Gamercjm | i never liked the wiki-based that much |
| 21:45.19 | voipmasta | Well I set up that acount with 40Gb diskspace + 500 Gb monthly transfer |
| 21:45.22 | voipmasta | that should do it for a while |
| 21:45.47 | Gamercjm | lol yah |
| 21:46.14 | Gamercjm | do any of your server run windows? |
| 21:46.17 | tsume | voipmasta: forums are much better |
| 21:46.27 | tsume | voipmasta: wiki and mailing lists are difficult to search. |
| 21:46.31 | voipmasta | tsume: to publish code? |
| 21:46.36 | tsume | voipmasta: yes |
| 21:46.48 | tsume | voipmasta: on code attachment, give it a permlink address |
| 21:46.49 | voipmasta | tsume: which forum would you recommend? phpbb2? |
| 21:47.01 | tsume | voipmasta: yea, just customize something already made. |
| 21:47.09 | tsume | voipmasta: I recomment phpbb-php5 |
| 21:47.12 | tsume | *recommend |
| 21:47.22 | tsume | phpbb is unforutnatley behind the times and still using php4 |
| 21:47.45 | tsume | php6 is about to be out sometime this or next year, they are sitting on their ass watching money come in |
| 21:47.55 | tsume | they == phpbb devs |
| 21:48.03 | voipmasta | tsume: php devs I assume |
| 21:48.04 | mmmmmToop | any thoughts...getting no audio on h323 channel...call initiates but no audio |
| 21:48.12 | tsume | voipmasta: phpbb devs :) |
| 21:48.15 | diablopico | check codecs |
| 21:48.24 | voipmasta | mmmmmToop: double-check your firewall ports |
| 21:48.39 | voipmasta | mmmmmToop: I've had that problem when not forwarding the right ports |
| 21:48.58 | voipmasta | mmmmmToop: h.323 uses a single port to stablish the connection, plus a port range for media exchange |
| 21:48.59 | tsume | voipmasta: they could have been adapting php5 long before it was released, like a good development team should. Except now they just let all the money come in from donations and the phpbb store(shirts, etc) and let money come in so a few people can live rich without doing work. |
| 21:49.08 | mmmmmToop | oh...how do I check this? |
| 21:49.23 | mmmmmToop | iptraf or a tool like that? |
| 21:49.39 | voipmasta | mmmmmToop: is your asterisk box inside your LAN? |
| 21:50.07 | voipmasta | tsume: there's only one problem... that server doesn't have php5 installed, only php4 :( |
| 21:50.18 | mmmmmToop | yip...ethernet connection |
| 21:50.28 | tsume | voipmasta: then use phpbb :) it isn't php5 based at all |
| 21:50.30 | voipmasta | mmmmmToop: and what's your "client" device? a softphone? an ATA? |
| 21:50.38 | voipmasta | ok, let me install it |
| 21:50.44 | mmmmmToop | no it is a GSM channel bank |
| 21:50.46 | tsume | voipmasta: I have my own server :P so I never have problems like so |
| 21:50.48 | voipmasta | tsume: do you know any good free skin for Phpbb? |
| 21:51.00 | tsume | voipmasta: there are several sites for it |
| 21:51.06 | voipmasta | tsume: it's also my server, however there are some php4-specific scripts there |
| 21:51.06 | Qwell | phpbb is shit |
| 21:51.14 | tsume | Qwell: yes it is |
| 21:51.16 | Qwell | horribly vulnerable |
| 21:51.31 | tsume | voipmasta: if you have money for vbulletin or invision, buy it :)) |
| 21:51.45 | file | Qwell: aren't you nice and bitter today! |
| 21:51.47 | tsume | they are both php based, and very good |
| 21:51.49 | *** join/#asterisk amdtech (n=ditto@ip70-179-174-151.dl.dl.cox.net) |
| 21:51.59 | voipmasta | tsume: I do have the money for it, but if it will host open source files then I guess that it should also use an open source forum |
| 21:52.06 | mmmmmToop | voipmasta: checked traffic...establishes connection...but no UDP traffic flows after initial connection |
| 21:52.10 | Qwell | file: couldn't express how bad it was, any other way :p |
| 21:52.29 | mmmmmToop | ast is sending traffic on ports: 1720 & 36484 |
| 21:52.35 | mmmmmToop | looks reasonable... |
| 21:52.42 | voipmasta | mmmmmToop: yes it's reasonable |
| 21:52.59 | mmmmmToop | y do u think there is no udp after call connection? |
| 21:53.06 | voipmasta | mmmmmToop: maybe diablopico's advice was right, it's a codec mismatch |
| 21:53.22 | mmmmmToop | oh...good point...I forgot to mention |
| 21:53.38 | mmmmmToop | when in CLI> I type "h.323 show codecs" |
| 21:53.46 | mmmmmToop | and get a blank table...? |
| 21:54.06 | mmmmmToop | is this normal? |
| 21:54.08 | voipmasta | that's perfectly normal |
| 21:54.26 | heka | anybody can help me about sip jitter buffer patch? |
| 21:54.35 | mmmmmToop | good to know...mmmm |
| 21:54.36 | Gamercjm | is there a cheap international voip? |
| 21:54.49 | voipmasta | it depends on what's cheap for you |
| 21:55.00 | dlynes | and depends on what's international for you :) |
| 21:55.00 | tsume | voipmasta: what? |
| 21:55.02 | Gamercjm | right now i got .02 cents per minute |
| 21:55.02 | diablopico | did you allow/disallow your preferred codecs in your .conf files ? |
| 21:55.12 | tsume | voipmasta: it doesn't need to be opensource |
| 21:55.22 | mmmmmToop | ye...I even tried "allow all" |
| 21:55.23 | tsume | voipmasta: if it gets the job done, buy it |
| 21:55.27 | voipmasta | tsume: most code published there will be opensource (or at least I hope so) |
| 21:55.29 | tsume | voipmasta: its worth the money |
| 21:55.35 | tsume | voipmasta: doesn't matter |
| 21:55.44 | tsume | voipmasta: wont affect the licenses of the source posted |
| 21:55.45 | voipmasta | tsume: I know, I have 2 forums running under vbulletin |
| 21:55.51 | *** join/#asterisk rumba (n=ropawa@cpe-68-201-149-21.sw.res.rr.com) |
| 21:55.54 | tsume | there is no shame in using closed source |
| 21:56.01 | voipmasta | tsume: and I know there's nothing related to licenses... |
| 21:56.04 | tsume | don't be stupid like most linux children out there |
| 21:56.13 | voipmasta | I'm not a linux child |
| 21:56.16 | tsume | use windows when you need to, the same with software |
| 21:56.17 | voipmasta | I'm a FreeBSD child |
| 21:56.18 | voipmasta | ¤ Laughing Out Loud ¤ |
| 21:56.27 | tsume | its like saying gimp is good as photoshop |
| 21:56.30 | tsume | maybe photoshop 1 |
| 21:56.32 | voipmasta | sorry for those colors, it was just .LOL |
| 21:56.37 | tsume | voipmasta: well good, I'm a BSD person |
| 21:56.43 | mmmmmToop | loving the Asterisk discussion! ; ) |
| 21:56.49 | tsume | voipmasta: there are no colors, the channel is +c |
| 21:57.03 | tsume | ¤ Laughing Out Loud ¤ |
| 21:57.05 | voipmasta | tsume: if you read back you'll see that I said that I used Paint Shop Pro (from Corel) to design the logo |
| 21:57.23 | tsume | voipmasta: well come on, then how come you won't use vbulletin |
| 21:57.27 | tsume | its a great board |
| 21:57.37 | voipmasta | I would dare to say it's the best one |
| 21:57.46 | mmmmmToop | any more thoughts on my h.323 codec issue chaps? |
| 21:57.47 | tsume | voipmasta: does paintshop pro have templates? |
| 21:57.58 | tsume | voipmasta: I've been using Ulead Photoimpact :) |
| 21:58.09 | tsume | it has tons os easypalette type stuff :) |
| 21:58.10 | voipmasta | tsume: templates... like brush templates? effects templates? filter templates? |
| 21:58.36 | tsume | effects, text materials, text types, material types, material shading |
| 21:58.40 | tsume | glassing objects, etc |
| 21:58.43 | tsume | tons of stuff |
| 21:58.51 | voipmasta | mmmmmToop: did you read diablopico's advice about enabling/disabling codecs in your conf files? |
| 21:59.13 | voipmasta | tsume: yes, PSP includes some and you can download tons from the net |
| 21:59.50 | tsume | voipmasta: web pagees? :P |
| 22:00.00 | *** join/#asterisk SexyKen (n=Ken@c-24-5-129-114.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:00.09 | voipmasta | tsume: since it seems like you're really into desinging, could you please tell me if you like that logo? |
| 22:00.20 | tsume | voipmasta: I didn't see it |
| 22:00.22 | voipmasta | tsume: no it doesn't include web templates |
| 22:00.27 | voipmasta | tsume: http://www.astertoys.com |
| 22:00.45 | SexyKen | I have this inh my meetme.conf: conf => 1300, in the [rooms] context -- when I try to dial 1300, I get an error in asterisk saying ther eis no voicemail config |
| 22:00.47 | SexyKen | Why would this be? |
| 22:00.58 | tsume | voipmasta: very nice. |
| 22:01.03 | voipmasta | tsume: thanks |
| 22:01.17 | voipmasta | tsume: maybe you started reading late, but that's what the forum will be for |
| 22:01.36 | tsume | I did |
| 22:01.48 | voipmasta | tsume: for a site where every single developer is able to publish/share/advertise his asterisk-supported/asterisk-based/asterisk-mixed apps |
| 22:02.07 | SexyKen | Anyone know? |
| 22:02.09 | Gamercjm | tsume: you in the US? |
| 22:02.19 | tsume | Gamercjm: I am in Alaska, US. :) |
| 22:02.25 | Gamercjm | close enough ;) |
| 22:02.34 | Gamercjm | http://project-r.happyorange.us |
| 22:02.38 | *** join/#asterisk rumba (n=ropawa@cpe-68-201-149-21.sw.res.rr.com) |
| 22:02.39 | Gamercjm | try that out |
| 22:02.43 | SexyKen | Well thanks for the help guys. |
| 22:02.58 | voipmasta | SexyKen: sorry, I've never used the meetme functions in asterisk |
| 22:03.08 | Gamercjm | me neither |
| 22:03.58 | Strom_C | SexyKen, whats your problem now? |
| 22:04.06 | Gamercjm | (SexyKen) I have this inh my meetme.conf: conf => 1300, in the [rooms] context -- when I try to dial 1300, I get an error in asterisk saying ther eis no voicemail config |
| 22:04.20 | SexyKen | Gamercjm, right on it. |
| 22:04.26 | Gamercjm | ;) |
| 22:04.37 | Strom_C | SexyKen, do you have a corresponding entry in your dialplan? |
| 22:04.40 | SexyKen | I can't understand why a meetme room would need a voicemail config |
| 22:05.14 | SexyKen | Strom_C: In what sense? |
| 22:05.14 | Strom_C | exten => 1300,1,Meetme(1300) |
| 22:05.14 | SexyKen | Ah |
| 22:05.14 | SexyKen | Let me check |
| 22:05.14 | Strom_C | it sounds like 1300 is matching a voicemail extension pattern |
| 22:05.58 | Gamercjm | http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/barbieOS.htm |
| 22:06.39 | tsume | Gamercjm: freezes my browser |
| 22:06.53 | Gamercjm | lol |
| 22:06.59 | Gamercjm | its just a flash video |
| 22:07.08 | Gamercjm | urs cant handle that? |
| 22:08.23 | SexyKen | Well Strom -- You've corrected one issue :-) |
| 22:08.33 | Strom_C | still having issues? |
| 22:08.50 | SexyKen | Apr 2 16:07:15 WARNING[12831]: channel.c:2530 ast_request: No channel type registered for 'zap' |
| 22:08.50 | SexyKen | Apr 2 16:07:15 WARNING[12831]: app_meetme.c:458 build_conf: Unable to open pseudo channel - trying device |
| 22:08.50 | SexyKen | Apr 2 16:07:15 WARNING[12831]: app_meetme.c:461 build_conf: Unable to open pseudo device |
| 22:08.50 | SexyKen | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.51 | SexyKen | Yea |
| 22:08.55 | voipmasta | is that BarbieOS article for real? |
| 22:08.56 | SexyKen | Oops sorry for the 4 liner. |
| 22:09.01 | Strom_C | SexyKen, do you have a zaptel card? |
| 22:09.11 | SexyKen | Nope -- using pure VOIP. |
| 22:09.25 | Strom_C | you need to compile zaptel and modprobe both zaptel and ztdummy |
| 22:09.41 | SexyKen | Uh oh -- sounding complicated now. |
| 22:09.57 | voipmasta | SexyKen: just follow the 'basic' asterisk setup manual |
| 22:10.37 | SexyKen | Strom_C -- will this process require me to take my Asterisk server offline for any lengthy period of time? Reason I ask, is this is currently running a support datacenter and I cannot have extensive downtime. |
| 22:11.25 | Strom_C | you may need to restart asterisk |
| 22:11.28 | Strom_C | but that should be it |
| 22:12.32 | voipmasta | SexyKen: you can recompile without shutting down asterisk |
| 22:12.32 | Strom_C | total downtime <1 sec |
| 22:12.32 | voipmasta | SexyKen: maybe a 10 second downtime |
| 22:12.32 | voipmasta | Strom_C: I'm assuming that he's a slow typer |
| 22:12.32 | Strom_C | voipmasta, "restart now" will do the restart automagically |
| 22:12.33 | SexyKen | Why would you assume that I'm a slow typer? |
| 22:12.50 | voipmasta | don't take me wrong |
| 22:13.01 | voipmasta | 10 seconds is the maximum downtime if you type letter by letter using just one finger |
| 22:13.45 | Gamercjm | comeon someone give me something to do again |
| 22:15.09 | Gamercjm | what the voice regignition thing |
| 22:15.26 | Strom_C | sphinx |
| 22:15.36 | *** join/#asterisk bigjb (n=bigjb@82-36-140-105.cable.ubr02.perr.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 22:15.43 | Gamercjm | i got an idea |
| 22:15.49 | Gamercjm | i hope it can be done ;) |
| 22:16.12 | SexyKen | Where is this instruction for installing the zaptel & ztdummy |
| 22:16.19 | Strom_C | Who would you say are the main players in the hard IP phone market? I've got Cisco, Polycom, Granstream, Aastra, and Snom - am I forgetting anything? :) |
| 22:17.02 | SexyKen | I'm not a huge fan of my SoundPoint IP600's |
| 22:17.28 | Strom_C | I <3 my cisco 7960s |
| 22:17.32 | Strom_C | <3 <3 <3 |
| 22:17.35 | voipmasta | Strom_C: Avaya |
| 22:17.54 | Strom_C | of course - how could I forget Avaya |
| 22:17.58 | x86 | Strom_C: SCCP or SIP? |
| 22:18.09 | x86 | on ur 7960s |
| 22:18.14 | Strom_C | SIP |
| 22:18.17 | x86 | ah |
| 22:18.36 | Strom_C | though if the SCCP drivers are ready for primetime on asterisk, I'll play with SCCP |
| 22:18.39 | voipmasta | Strom_C: uniden has also released ip phones |
| 22:19.11 | Gamercjm | anybody use sphinx before? |
| 22:19.37 | x86 | Gamercjm: if you get it working let me know ;) |
| 22:19.44 | Gamercjm | lol |
| 22:19.50 | Gamercjm | well i dont get what to install |
| 22:20.57 | Darwin35 | I am working to learn it |
| 22:21.25 | Darwin35 | I installed fromports on bsd |
| 22:21.47 | tsume | you mean FreeBSD |
| 22:22.06 | Darwin35 | yes |
| 22:22.47 | tsume | voipmasta: uniden, the king of cheap phones? |
| 22:22.52 | Qwell | 25 |
| 22:22.52 | Qwell | .015 |
| 22:22.53 | Qwell | .1 |
| 22:23.03 | voipmasta | tsume: yup, I read about some IP phones released by them |
| 22:23.03 | Darwin35 | nonono |
| 22:23.11 | tsume | no way.. |
| 22:23.17 | Darwin35 | Yughen |
| 22:23.24 | voipmasta | Strom_C: Linksys does also offer IP phones now that they bought sipura |
| 22:23.29 | tsume | XD I hope they are cheaper than Budgetones |
| 22:23.45 | Strom_C | right, I have Cisco, Linksys, Sipura as the same group |
| 22:23.49 | voipmasta | I see |
| 22:24.06 | Darwin35 | open source phones roc |
| 22:24.12 | Darwin35 | pa1688 based |
| 22:24.19 | tsume | nobody cares if its opensourced or not |
| 22:24.22 | tsume | making money matters |
| 22:24.23 | *** join/#asterisk forao (n=dfasdfs@ool-4354d6b4.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 22:24.35 | tsume | I use polycom, it may not be opensource, but thyey are great phones |
| 22:25.08 | Gamercjm | anyother Speech recognition for asterisk? |
| 22:27.06 | Darwin35 | not that i know of |
| 22:27.42 | Darwin35 | ok time for food |
| 22:27.46 | Darwin35 | bbiab |
| 22:28.14 | Darwin35 | VM che ck back with you in awhile |
| 22:28.22 | Lino` | well |
| 22:28.25 | Lino` | budgetone sucks |
| 22:28.49 | diablopico | does anyone have suggestions for RealTime config , I keep getting "wrong password" ... |
| 22:29.05 | Lino` | realtime also sucks ;) |
| 22:30.33 | Strom_C | diablopico, perhaps if you ask a specific question, you'll get a better answer |
| 22:31.29 | diablopico | ok ... what fields are used to register a user by REalTime for mysql |
| 22:32.51 | Gamercjm | i want this to be updated >.< http://www.lobstertech.com/voicechanger/ |
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| 22:48.43 | zimdog | hello room. I ma trying to set a variable to the value of context when I do sip show peer peername. |
| 22:49.20 | zimdog | are these values stored in * internal database? |
| 22:49.43 | Strom_C | if you explicitly put them in the database, then sure |
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| 22:50.42 | zimdog | When I dod sip show peer peername where doesthis info come from? Is it just being read into memory form the sip.conf |
| 22:52.04 | Strom_C | zimdog, it shows whatever asterisk has read from sip.conf as well as whatever state the peers are currently in |
| 22:52.15 | Strom_C | computers use RAM now :) |
| 22:53.49 | linagee | Strom_C: real computers only need rom. :) |
| 22:53.54 | Strom_C | hahaha |
| 22:55.03 | zimdog | Strom_C: Question. What I want to do is use this context for the peer to control outbound dialing. Is this value already stored some place? |
| 22:55.13 | linagee | Strom_C: if i ever need RAM in a program, i can just use the internet. :) |
| 22:55.15 | tsume | computers would be slow as hell without ram :) |
| 22:55.19 | Qwell | linagee: real computers use WOM |
| 22:55.20 | Strom_C | zimdog, ?? |
| 22:55.47 | Strom_C | zimdog, I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to convey to me |
| 22:56.02 | linagee | how can you call a harddrive RAM? |
| 22:56.15 | linagee | RAM = random access memory, right? |
| 22:56.26 | linagee | how random would a harddrive have to access to be called "RAM"? hehehe |
| 22:56.39 | zimdog | help /priv |
| 22:57.14 | zimdog | help msg |
| 22:57.21 | zimdog | help |
| 22:57.28 | linagee | if you use the argument, "RAM = exactly the same very small amount of time in between reads/writes", then even normal SD RAM does not qualify. :) rows have different access times. hehehe |
| 22:57.33 | Strom_C | zimdog, just ask the goddamned question |
| 22:57.48 | smokes | whats the ddefault user information for AAH ? |
| 22:57.55 | smokes | for a softphone |
| 23:00.07 | zimdog | Strom_C: I want to set a variable = to the Context that shows up when I type sip show peer peername |
| 23:00.41 | Strom_C | zimdog, why? |
| 23:02.40 | *** join/#asterisk pigpen2 (n=mark@fw.seamans.cc) |
| 23:04.28 | zimdog | I am limiting extensions to specific outbound trunks. Everything works as I expect when the extension makes a call out. But I found when an extension has call forwarding setup an agi script called dialparties .agi has from-internal hard coded. I want to have this replaced with the context instead |
| 23:04.49 | Strom_C | zimdog, you're not using freepbx, are you? |
| 23:05.29 | zimdog | What is freepbx? |
| 23:05.46 | Strom_C | zimdog, let's put it this way: which version of asterisk are you using? |
| 23:07.18 | zimdog | SVN-branch-1.2-R8808 |
| 23:07.19 | orlock | linagee: hard drives will never be RAM, as they are not - cos of the fact that its got platters and heads |
| 23:07.33 | Strom_C | zimdog, are you using asterisk@home? |
| 23:07.37 | orlock | though its a step up from completely sequential systems like tapes |
| 23:07.45 | Gamercjm | When using a .call file... is there anyway to assign a variable??? |
| 23:08.23 | zimdog | yes right now I am. Is it called freepbx ? |
| 23:08.47 | linagee | orlock: RAM = random access memory. RAM does not imply that you have electronically switched static gate logic |
| 23:08.48 | Strom_C | zimdog, asterisk@home uses AMP / Freepbx, which forces you to do a lot of things in really boneheaded ways |
| 23:09.01 | zimdog | I can see that |
| 23:09.41 | Strom_C | zimdog, I would recommend that you dump asterisk@home and start off on the right foot with your choice of linux distribution and asterisk compiled from source |
| 23:09.46 | orlock | linagee: no, but drives cannot have random access as the heads and matter have to move into location |
| 23:09.58 | orlock | a hard drive doing random access stuff is also known as "thrashing" |
| 23:10.11 | diablopico | does anyone know what db fields are reqiured to register a user by RealTime using mysql for the sip config? |
| 23:10.18 | zimdog | Strom_C has there been a fracture in the asterisk community? |
| 23:10.23 | Strom_C | zimdog, no |
| 23:10.37 | Strom_C | but frankly I am not enamored of anything to do with AMP / Freepbx |
| 23:10.37 | linagee | orlock: SD RAM is not truely random access either. :) |
| 23:11.02 | linagee | orlock: there is different amounts of latency when you want to retrieve info from different columns. just like different amounts of latency on a hard drive. :) |
| 23:11.30 | linagee | orlock: never heard of CAS with respect to memory? :) (column address select) |
| 23:11.56 | Strom_C | linagee, you know you're a phone geek when CAS means nothing but "channel associated signaling" :) |
| 23:12.30 | MoutaPT | newbie question: I've installed Ast 1.2.6 on Debian |
| 23:12.46 | MoutaPT | to use realtime do i need extra packages? |
| 23:12.59 | Strom_C | asterisk-addons I believe |
| 23:13.05 | MoutaPT | i mean Mysql is already? |
| 23:13.11 | Strom_C | MoutaPT, if you're just starting off, I suggest not using realtime |
| 23:13.23 | MoutaPT | Strom_C i'm not starting Off |
| 23:13.27 | zimdog | I am evaluating some of the different frontends. This one looked the most complete. I am looking to have a portal created similar to broiadsoft or salantro. Is there something better to look at than AMP? |
| 23:13.32 | MoutaPT | i'm newbie on Realtime |
| 23:13.42 | Strom_C | zimdog, frontends suck. |
| 23:13.51 | MoutaPT | the problem is i've used most of the time ast@home |
| 23:14.02 | MoutaPT | now i decided to build all by my self |
| 23:14.17 | zimdog | Strom_C are you a developer? |
| 23:14.20 | MoutaPT | that's why i don't know if MySQL is already |
| 23:14.48 | Strom_C | MoutaPT, yeah, so learn how to use extensions.conf, and use realtime only once you get the extensions.conf stuff down pat |
| 23:14.51 | Strom_C | zimdog, no |
| 23:15.53 | MoutaPT | Strom_C i know already sip.conf extensions.conf contexts and so on... my "stupid" or easy question is if Mysql (i think it's required for Realtime extensions) is it already installed on my system or not ... |
| 23:16.47 | linlin | whats the easiest way to instruct my x100p zap card to ignore incoming calls and just let the line ring? |
| 23:17.01 | Qwell | linlin: unplug it |
| 23:17.11 | Lino` | :-P |
| 23:17.12 | linlin | ... |
| 23:17.18 | Lino` | *rofl* |
| 23:17.22 | Strom_C | MoutaPT, are you starting fresh? |
| 23:17.23 | linlin | lol |
| 23:17.44 | MoutaPT | Lino create a context that doesn't answer the call and on your zapata send calls from zapata to that context |
| 23:18.04 | zimdog | I will be looking at having a frontend built that will allow system providers to setup and manage tenants or groups |
| 23:18.09 | MoutaPT | Strom_C yes, in fact what i'm not used is with step by step installation |
| 23:18.40 | Strom_C | MoutaPT, so you already know the answer. apt-get install mysql :) |
| 23:18.42 | linlin | seriously? |
| 23:19.00 | MoutaPT | Strom_C thank you very much:) |
| 23:19.55 | JamesDotCom | Strom_C: about 3 years ago |
| 23:20.04 | Lino` | no i don't care ;) |
| 23:20.05 | zimdog | Anyone interested in giving a bid on a project like that? |
| 23:20.07 | Lino` | @ MoutaPT |
| 23:20.33 | Lino` | i dont have an analog line, i just use isdn |
| 23:20.34 | Lino` | :-P |
| 23:21.36 | Gamercjm | my quality sucks on my asterisk |
| 23:21.48 | Strom_C | Gamercjm, stop using GSM codec |
| 23:22.01 | Gamercjm | whats the best to switch to? |
| 23:22.14 | Strom_C | ulaw of course :) |
| 23:22.36 | MoutaPT | Lino` does it help? |
| 23:23.42 | Gamercjm | mmk i switch |
| 23:24.33 | Lino` | ;) |
| 23:24.46 | orlock | linagee: the latency for ram is a constant though, drive latency is dependant on the position/previous data accessed |
| 23:25.34 | Gamercjm | Storm: which config has the codec? |
| 23:25.38 | linagee | orlock: i was just finished saying. memory does not have a constant latency |
| 23:25.42 | Gamercjm | Strom_C* |
| 23:25.58 | Strom_C | Gamercjm, are you using sip or iax? |
| 23:26.03 | linlin | they all call him sotrm :-X |
| 23:26.05 | linagee | orlock: NOW you must see my argument. :) |
| 23:26.08 | linlin | storm* |
| 23:26.09 | Gamercjm | iax |
| 23:26.15 | Gamercjm | nvm |
| 23:26.17 | Gamercjm | lol |
| 23:26.22 | Gamercjm | i looked |
| 23:26.27 | Strom_C | like I said, "HELP HELP MY BRAIN IS TURNED OFF" |
| 23:26.33 | orlock | linagee: yes, different length traces, slight variations in ram, its, but though the latency might not be exactly the same, its a known constant |
| 23:26.56 | orlock | linagee: ever done work with video editing? |
| 23:27.03 | orlock | linear/non linear, etc |
| 23:27.12 | Strom_C | linlin, I'm really in trouble if and when there's a Hurricane Carlson |
| 23:27.21 | linagee | orlock: yes |
| 23:27.37 | orlock | same sorta thing |
| 23:27.40 | Gamercjm | >.> |
| 23:28.27 | linagee | orlock: i don't get the NLE similar thing |
| 23:28.27 | Gamercjm | i dont see a default codec set |
| 23:28.34 | Strom_C | Gamercjm, force it |
| 23:28.35 | Strom_C | disallow=all |
| 23:28.40 | Strom_C | allow=ulaw |
| 23:29.08 | Gamercjm | is that gonna cause any problems by disallowing all? |
| 23:29.13 | linlin | hah Strom_C |
| 23:29.33 | Strom_C | Gamercjm, not unless you have something stupid that absolutely wont work with ulaw |
| 23:29.39 | orlock | linagee: ram does not rely on a physical drive head being mved into position and waiting for the platter to move into position |
| 23:29.57 | orlock | therefore its not capable of accessing the data randomly without the drive thrashing |
| 23:30.18 | MoutaPT | There's always an option to disallow=all , and then allow=ulaw followed by allaw=gsm |
| 23:30.20 | orlock | in ram theres no difference between accessing the one contiguous blob of data, or multiple bits of data |
| 23:30.36 | MoutaPT | if your device doesn't work with ulaw it will try gsm |
| 23:30.39 | linagee | orlock: harddrive does not have to thrash..... hrm... |
| 23:30.39 | Strom_C | MoutaPT, yeah, but then that misses the point |
| 23:30.52 | orlock | its like fast forwarding and rewinding through a tape |
| 23:31.15 | orlock | with a record or cd, theres no need to do that, you just position the head |
| 23:31.22 | linagee | orlock: you could have one bar with tons of read/write heads, and just move that laterally.. hrm |
| 23:31.37 | orlock | and this is the next step, there no head, all the data is available regardless of what data was previously accessed |
| 23:32.02 | Gamercjm | is that all i really need to change? |
| 23:32.09 | linagee | orlock: my drive spins at 10krpm. :) |
| 23:32.26 | orlock | so does mine :) |
| 23:32.29 | orlock | still thrashes. |
| 23:32.36 | orlock | sata raptor |
| 23:32.45 | linagee | raptor here too. :) |
| 23:32.47 | linagee | WD740 |
| 23:32.55 | linagee | i have a special bay to keep mine cool. :) |
| 23:32.57 | orlock | 36 |
| 23:33.07 | linagee | 36 and 150 sucks. :) |
| 23:33.19 | orlock | whats your hdparm -tT? |
| 23:33.30 | orlock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.30 | orlock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.38 | linagee | orlock: running windows. lol |
| 23:33.42 | linagee | orlock: on this box anyway |
| 23:33.49 | orlock | oh, hehe :) |
| 23:34.08 | MoutaPT | Gamercjm, be sure that you have this codec configuration in general section otherwise change it for devices you want |
| 23:34.32 | Gamercjm | yah in the aix |
| 23:34.35 | Gamercjm | iax* |
| 23:34.51 | orlock | but yeah, if you suddenly need to access some data thats on the section of platter that just went past the heads, you HAVE to wait another revolution to access it |
| 23:35.11 | MoutaPT | Strom_C is there any command to check my cpu usage? |
| 23:35.20 | Strom_C | top |
| 23:35.22 | orlock | linagee: seen the gigabyte sata ram drives? |
| 23:35.50 | MoutaPT | Strom_C Thks! |
| 23:36.23 | linlin | why even bother discussing more efficent forms of magnetic storage, solid state is where its at |
| 23:36.44 | orlock | <_tcc/##linux> I like clunky and reliable. |
| 23:36.44 | orlock | *** dgtlmoon__ [n=dgtlmoon@203.49.194.216] joined channel #zog |
| 23:36.44 | orlock | <AcidTonic/##linux> is there any way to record which modules hotplug loads in what order? |
| 23:36.44 | orlock | <_tcc/##linux> I dislike all the "security" features. |
| 23:36.46 | orlock | argh doh |
| 23:36.48 | orlock | misclicked |
| 23:36.53 | MoutaPT | Strom_C by the way i've a machine running Ast@home2,7 with digium TE110P, and i found after loading 50 new sipaccounts that kernel buffers were "using" 500M RAM from my 1G RAM, am I in troubles? |
| 23:37.00 | orlock | linlin: like the gigabyte sata ram drives :) |
| 23:37.23 | Strom_C | MoutaPT, I wouldn't know. I won't touch a@h with a ten foot pole |
| 23:37.23 | orlock | 4 ram slots on a PCI card, plus SATA port |
| 23:37.41 | linagee | orlock: i have just seen it right now |
| 23:37.45 | linagee | orlock: why would you have that |
| 23:37.48 | linagee | orlock: linux caches... |
| 23:37.58 | linlin | ive seen those, cool stuff |
| 23:38.18 | Gamercjm | if i have a sound file that is .gsm will it still play??? |
| 23:38.19 | linagee | solid state is bad |
| 23:38.23 | MoutaPT | Strom_C That's what i'm doing now:) but in fact this machine is already working for a group so it's not supposed to stop it... |
| 23:38.44 | linagee | solid state volatile is fast. but who would want to lose all data just because of no power? |
| 23:38.55 | linagee | solid state non volatile is slow... |
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| 23:40.07 | orlock | linagee: it doesnt loose ower |
| 23:40.18 | linagee | orlock: ? |
| 23:40.21 | orlock | battery backup, plus its powered from the pci bus |
| 23:40.30 | orlock | power, the gigabyte ram drive |
| 23:40.32 | linagee | orlock: systems never fail? lol |
| 23:40.51 | orlock | 10 hours battery backup on the card |
| 23:40.54 | diablopico | does anyone know what db fields are reqiured to register a user by RealTime using mysql for the sip config? |
| 23:41.00 | orlock | plus its powered by the pci bus, een while the system is off |
| 23:41.07 | linagee | orlock: so maybe if you had it in raid 5 or something. hr, |
| 23:41.10 | _medic_ | good evening .. i have a question .. which capi shall i use chan-capi_cm or theone comingwith bristuff ? |
| 23:41.31 | linagee | orlock: pci bus? |
| 23:41.35 | linagee | orlock: or pci express bus? |
| 23:41.41 | Strom_C | diablopico, look at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+RealTime |
| 23:41.45 | linlin | i think there shoudl be some kind of a raid setup for thosek inds of cards, when you shut down the machine, it sychromizes the data thats changed to a magnetic medium |
| 23:41.49 | linagee | orlock: if it connects to the pci express bus, why bother with SATA? |
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| 23:41.55 | orlock | linagee: PCI bus |
| 23:42.08 | orlock | PCI is just for power |
| 23:42.11 | linlin | then when you boot back up, it does the same |
| 23:42.15 | linagee | orlock: that sure is dumb |
| 23:42.20 | orlock | yeah |
| 23:42.26 | linagee | orlock: why not take advantage of the bus speed sitting right htere |
| 23:42.35 | orlock | but must be easier than putting in a whole sata controller |
| 23:42.36 | linagee | orlock: you know what the answer is? |
| 23:42.37 | orlock | yup |
| 23:42.42 | orlock | thats the mian thing i thought about |
| 23:42.44 | linagee | orlock: it wouldn't be that much faster |
| 23:42.45 | diablopico | i have read all the wiki info ,, no referrence to the actual fields ,, but thanks |
| 23:42.46 | orlock | and its only sta 150 |
| 23:42.51 | linagee | orlock: because the PCI bus sucks. lol |
| 23:42.59 | linagee | orlock: this is why we have PCI express. :) |
| 23:43.05 | linlin | it can look more like a hard drive is its attached to the sata bus |
| 23:43.11 | linlin | les driver writing involved |
| 23:43.14 | orlock | http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q1/gigabyte-iram/index.x?pg=1 |
| 23:43.23 | orlock | linlin: yeha |
| 23:43.25 | linagee | linlin: there are some pretty standard chipsets out there |
| 23:43.26 | orlock | and no drvers needed |
| 23:43.36 | linagee | linlin: no driver needed. already in windwos |
| 23:43.39 | orlock | it will Just Work |
| 23:43.46 | orlock | so you can boot form it |
| 23:43.53 | orlock | hmm, no moving parts... |
| 23:44.05 | linagee | orlock: memory does fail over time though. ;-) |
| 23:44.29 | linagee | orlock: it especially fails over time when it's overheating |
| 23:44.30 | orlock | so does every other component :) |
| 23:44.48 | linagee | orlock: now if you have sufficient cooling, it may fail several factors slower than a HDD... |
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| 23:44.59 | diablopico | what does all this talk about ram and hard drives have to do with asterisk ? |
| 23:45.17 | linagee | orlock: aircon does nothing if the heat is trapped inside the box. :-P |
| 23:45.19 | orlock | diablopico: do you want the server running your companies phones to crap out? |
| 23:45.43 | orlock | i'm sure they have mobiles to call you on :) |
| 23:45.51 | linagee | orlock: that depends. is it running in a raid set? :) |
| 23:46.28 | diablopico | simple question simple answer ,,, thanks orlock |
| 23:47.05 | orlock | i've got a cisco, a linksys and a grandstream on my desk |
| 23:47.11 | orlock | just need to make * route calls now |
| 23:47.27 | linagee | orlock: download asterisk@home. :) |
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| 23:47.51 | srodriguez | Hi Guys |
| 23:47.54 | srodriguez | Does anyone here have FC5? |
| 23:47.59 | Strom_C | ive got two ciscos, a nortel, a pap2, a turquoise weco 2500, and an orange stromnerg-carlson slenderet on my desl |
| 23:48.06 | Strom_C | er, desk |
| 23:48.11 | srodriguez | More than me, that's for sure |
| 23:48.21 | Qwell | Strom_C: a stromnerg-carlson? |
| 23:48.26 | Strom_C | er |
| 23:48.30 | Strom_C | stromberg-carlson |
| 23:48.32 | Strom_C | typo |
| 23:48.35 | Qwell | same question |
| 23:48.38 | Qwell | Strom_C: a stromberg-carlson? |
| 23:48.41 | Strom_C | yes |
| 23:48.51 | Strom_C | you do know about the stromberg-carlson company, right? |
| 23:48.52 | Qwell | You named after it? :p |
| 23:48.57 | srodriguez | They make telecom equipment, don't they? |
| 23:49.04 | Strom_C | yes, thats where my handle comes from. it's a phone joke :) |
| 23:49.12 | Qwell | tsk, tsk, tsk |
| 23:49.20 | Qwell | You mean, all this time, you've been living a lie?! :p |
| 23:49.28 | srodriguez | hmm |
| 23:49.31 | linagee | has anyone started hiding voip phones into old telephone equipment like in wooden boxes and stuff? lol. that would rock |
| 23:49.38 | Strom_C | you thought "strom carlson" was my real name? :) |
| 23:49.38 | srodriguez | I once saw a computer |
| 23:49.40 | srodriguez | (well more like heard of) |
| 23:49.43 | srodriguez | in a milk carton |
| 23:49.49 | Qwell | Strom_C: I assumed so, yeah :p |
| 23:49.59 | linagee | srodriguez: snap an epia board in half? lol |
| 23:50.05 | Qwell | You are so less cool now. :D |
| 23:50.11 | srodriguez | that reminds me, at my school; we have an ethernet switch and some odd equipment in a box |
| 23:50.18 | srodriguez | A lot of peopel thought it was a microwave |
| 23:50.18 | orlock | srodriguez: yeah, i've got one in a cardboard box |
| 23:50.35 | _medic_ | Hy Strom_C , can i bother you with a question about echo ? :) .. or any quick hint, how to reduce it ? |
| 23:50.59 | Strom_C | _medic_, turn on your echo cancellers |
| 23:51.22 | srodriguez | Strom, I've got another question to annoy you (now that I've tried to butter you up), anywhere you can point me for help with installing Asterisk on Fedora Core 5? |
| 23:51.32 | linagee | what happens if you turn on a microwave with the door open in one of those metal rooms? would everyone inside cook? lol |
| 23:51.33 | linagee | ew |
| 23:51.46 | srodriguez | That's a scary question :) |
| 23:51.51 | orlock | linagee: microwaves work via a standing wave |
| 23:52.01 | orlock | so it would depend on the size of the room and stuff |
| 23:52.02 | _medic_ | i did, andit got better .. but its still noticeable, during an ISDN-in ISDN-out call |
| 23:52.03 | linagee | orlock: true. so it works better inside a shielded box, right? |
| 23:52.08 | Strom_C | srodriguez, i dont know - im a debian guy |
| 23:52.11 | linagee | orlock: like say, one of those secret sheilded rooms? |
| 23:52.18 | orlock | yeah, but the dimensions have to be right as well |
| 23:52.19 | srodriguez | I wish I had instaled Debian at this point |
| 23:52.32 | srodriguez | Fedora Core 5 does NOT play nice with asterisk, all I've found is some very cryptic instructions |
| 23:52.42 | srodriguez | or making it from an rpm; that just so happens doesn't even make asterisk a valid command |
| 23:53.03 | Strom_C | srodriguez, so? just install debian |
| 23:53.04 | linagee | srodriguez: ?? |
| 23:53.10 | linagee | srodriguez: doesn't make asterisk a valid command? |
| 23:53.54 | srodriguez | yeah |
| 23:54.00 | srodriguez | like hwne I"m done installing |
| 23:54.04 | srodriguez | I try to type asterisk into the console |
| 23:54.07 | srodriguez | and it's not a valid command |
| 23:54.10 | srodriguez | I tried asterisk with options; same thing |
| 23:54.32 | Qwell | srodriguez: So don't use an RPM |
| 23:54.46 | srodriguez | Tried doing it manually |
| 23:54.49 | srodriguez | make install spit out so many errors |
| 23:55.09 | srodriguez | I'm going to grab a different distro me thinks |
| 23:55.22 | orlock | hmm |
| 23:55.26 | srodriguez | since doing it on Fedora Core 5 is going into uncharted territory at this point |
| 23:55.30 | srodriguez | Since it only came out a week or two ago |
| 23:55.33 | orlock | linksys == sipura == cisco? |
| 23:55.42 | Qwell | orlock: not quite |
| 23:55.44 | srodriguez | I use a Cisco router :) |
| 23:55.45 | srodriguez | :-P |
| 23:55.53 | Qwell | cisco owns linksys, who in turn owns sipura |
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| 23:56.05 | orlock | this linksys has a cisco badge on it, and the web page says sipura |
| 23:56.12 | orlock | yeah, thought so |
| 23:56.23 | Strom_C | orlock, which device? |
| 23:56.25 | _medic_ | is high irq-triggering an echo-maker ? |
| 23:56.37 | orlock | SPA-941 |
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| 23:58.30 | dwmw2 | that reminds me -- I need to update Asterisk on my FC5 box |
| 23:58.37 | srodriguez | dw |
| 23:58.39 | srodriguez | How'd you get it going? |
| 23:58.42 | srodriguez | It's been a pain for me |
| 23:58.49 | diablopico | does anyone know how to fix the error "wrong password" when registering a user on a system with RealTime and mysql... i have set all the fields in the db with the same data the sip.conf file had in it. now there is no user data in sip.conf, only gerneral info. and i am getting the error "failed for "xx.xx.xx.xx" - wrong password" |
| 23:58.51 | Dream_WEaver | Which part is the pain? |
| 23:59.02 | srodriguez | I got some RPMs that don't really do anything |
| 23:59.07 | dwmw2 | srodriguez: I haven't yet -- I've only just updated to FC5 |
| 23:59.17 | dwmw2 | which rpms? |
| 23:59.17 | srodriguez | Good luck |
| 23:59.22 | srodriguez | from |
| 23:59.24 | srodriguez | Hold on, let me find the site |
| 23:59.41 | srodriguez | ATrpms.net |
| 23:59.45 | dwmw2 | let me guess... you don't have /usr/sbin on your path and you just typed 'asterisk' instead of '/usr/sbin/asterisk' ? |
| 23:59.50 | dwmw2 | ew. atrpms |
| 23:59.51 | srodriguez | Yes sir |
| 23:59.52 | srodriguez | absolutely |
| 23:59.56 | dwmw2 | but still, it probably ought to work |
