| 00:00.17 | dlynes | heh...i'm glad i don't have to :) |
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| 00:06.37 | Maxxed | man i cant find this page anywhere |
| 00:07.01 | Maxxed | the idea is, i can fire off an agi by pressing a few keys on the phone while a call is in progress |
| 00:07.15 | Maxxed | the fun part is, with out the callee hearing them |
| 00:08.11 | Maxxed | and i seen somthing on voipwiki about it |
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| 00:08.18 | Maxxed | but i cant find it now ;\ |
| 00:08.29 | Maxxed | anyone wouldnt happen to know how to point me that way? |
| 00:08.37 | Maxxed | er where to point me rather |
| 00:10.30 | Qwell | Maxxed: probably with features.conf |
| 00:13.10 | Maxxed | Qwell: yeah that looks the chit :) |
| 00:13.17 | Maxxed | thx :D |
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| 00:23.10 | Hmmhesays | wiki wiki wiki wiki |
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| 00:35.58 | ToTo | hi all |
| 00:36.06 | LostFrog | Mushroom Mushroom |
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| 01:03.09 | Olobola | s |
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| 01:05.18 | tmccrary | Anyone have any experience setting up intercoms with asterisk? Any phones that support this at least decently? |
| 01:06.04 | brookshire | i've seen some voip intercom speakers |
| 01:06.13 | brookshire | cisco phones support autoanswer |
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| 01:09.07 | austinnichols101 | I'm using intercom with cisco 7960s |
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| 01:28.19 | jake1932 | file - u there? |
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| 01:53.50 | DoktorGreg | kk weird question |
| 01:53.57 | DoktorGreg | everything is working great |
| 01:54.09 | DoktorGreg | except for ping |
| 01:54.18 | DoktorGreg | when i try to ping my server |
| 01:54.32 | DoktorGreg | i am getting about 75% packet loss |
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| 01:55.26 | jake1932 | did you do a traceroute yet? |
| 01:55.30 | DoktorGreg | no |
| 01:55.53 | jake1932 | that might give you a better idea of where the failure is |
| 01:56.59 | DoktorGreg | keep in mind the bizaro part is |
| 01:57.01 | mavantix | tried to sign up an connect.voicepulse.com and their .NET crap crashes. Nice, huh? Hmmm... |
| 01:57.03 | DoktorGreg | everything works find |
| 01:57.46 | jake1932 | DoktorGreg: everything may be good enough to your hearing - doesn't mean there isn't an issue |
| 01:58.37 | jake1932 | although - 75% packet loss seems a bit high :) |
| 01:59.15 | DoktorGreg | I am running ssh, remote access, several http connections over link |
| 01:59.23 | DoktorGreg | three phones |
| 01:59.35 | DoktorGreg | and ping is failing |
| 02:00.13 | DoktorGreg | its not totally failing... |
| 02:00.25 | jake1932 | ping with intermittent results indicates a problem. I wouldn't ignore it. |
| 02:00.36 | DoktorGreg | oh im not |
| 02:01.09 | jake1932 | how about the opposite direction? |
| 02:01.53 | DoktorGreg | when i try to ping into my server, 75% loss |
| 02:02.04 | DoktorGreg | when i ping out, no problem at all |
| 02:02.41 | brookshire | doktor: do you have another machine you can ping from on your local network? |
| 02:02.47 | jake1932 | pinging in from behind a f/w? |
| 02:03.07 | DoktorGreg | yah |
| 02:03.23 | DoktorGreg | inside the firewall on server side works |
| 02:03.30 | DoktorGreg | everywhere i tried it |
| 02:03.35 | DoktorGreg | but for one anamoly |
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| 02:03.51 | DoktorGreg | when i try to ping the server from the firewall |
| 02:04.00 | DoktorGreg | I get the loss |
| 02:04.21 | brookshire | so only the firewall? |
| 02:04.25 | jake1932 | how about (as brookshire said) from another machine? |
| 02:04.40 | jake1932 | (inside your network) |
| 02:05.07 | DoktorGreg | ok it is only on the link between my asterisk server and its firewall |
| 02:06.16 | DoktorGreg | ok, it is only when the ping packet travels between the firewall router and the asterisk server |
| 02:06.16 | jake1932 | between the asterisk server and other machines in the same network, it's fine? |
| 02:06.32 | DoktorGreg | every other ping i have tried works no prob |
| 02:06.45 | brookshire | firewall could have a messed up icmp stack |
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| 02:07.23 | jake1932 | or just a faulty cable or card? |
| 02:07.31 | brookshire | yup |
| 02:07.44 | DoktorGreg | hmmm |
| 02:07.52 | brookshire | or someone plugged both ends of a cable into the same switch! |
| 02:08.11 | DoktorGreg | that would be me |
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| 02:08.28 | hodrige | For an iax2: exten => _011.,1,Macro(dialout-trunk,3,${EXTEN},,) is not working instead exten => _011.,1,Dial(IAX2/provider-iax-gw/${EXTEN:3}) (manually entered) is working... any ideas? |
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| 02:09.30 | DoktorGreg | do you have a dialout-trunk-macro context in your extensions.conf file? |
| 02:09.38 | jake1932 | DoktorGreg: it looks like you at least isolated the issue to the firewall |
| 02:09.48 | DoktorGreg | yah... |
| 02:09.55 | hodrige | it works for all the sip connections |
| 02:10.05 | hodrige | let me check |
| 02:10.05 | brookshire | hodrige: i would have to see your macro-dialout-trunk first |
| 02:10.21 | DoktorGreg | use pastebin.ca though |
| 02:10.57 | DoktorGreg | im wondering if i have had the problem all the time |
| 02:11.05 | DoktorGreg | but am noticing it just now |
| 02:11.53 | hodrige | no I don't |
| 02:12.07 | DoktorGreg | and its only in the one direction |
| 02:12.48 | DoktorGreg | its a linksys rv042 btw |
| 02:13.35 | jake1932 | since it's 75% packet loss - it kinda rules out a mistaken f/w rule |
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| 02:15.06 | hodrige | brookshire: I have [macro-dialout-trunk] |
| 02:15.44 | brookshire | hodrige: ok, so what is below it... |
| 02:17.01 | hodrige | brookshire: there are 27 exten => |
| 02:17.31 | hodrige | brookshire: am I looking for anything in particular? |
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| 02:18.02 | brookshire | hodrige: you're asking why something isn't working.. it's calling that macro |
| 02:19.06 | brookshire | so.. if something is messed up, it's probably in there |
| 02:19.29 | file[laptop] | brookshire is smrt :D |
| 02:19.48 | jake1932 | congrats file! |
| 02:19.54 | jake1932 | (belated) |
| 02:19.56 | brookshire | file: i'm 1/2 dCap'ed ;) |
| 02:19.58 | brookshire | lol |
| 02:20.07 | file[laptop] | jake1932: hehe thanks |
| 02:25.03 | hodrige | hmmm ... I need a number to call to test international ... but not too expensive :) and not to wake up anyone either |
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| 02:36.05 | luke-jr_ | hodrige: I have a number for an aussie semenary... o.O |
| 02:36.15 | luke-jr_ | yay, my dialplan is now 100% AEL |
| 02:37.12 | luke-jr_ | brockj49464_: dCap? |
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| 02:39.30 | Qwell | Digium certified asterisk professional? |
| 02:39.33 | Qwell | just a guess |
| 02:41.25 | luke-jr_ | brookshire: dCap? |
| 02:41.42 | luke-jr_ | but Qwell already answered :) |
| 02:45.30 | hodrige | Do I need to rebuild zaptel if I update the OS? even if I am not using any PSTN? |
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| 02:50.32 | tier_1 | slax |
| 02:50.39 | tier_1 | sorry wrongwinder |
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| 02:59.01 | tainted- | hodrige no |
| 02:59.22 | websae | tainted-do I know you? |
| 03:01.19 | tainted- | so much code |
| 03:01.22 | tainted- | so little time |
| 03:01.32 | websae | tainted- you code? are you any good at it? |
| 03:01.41 | tainted- | no |
| 03:01.50 | websae | I heard you had a bad reputation |
| 03:02.25 | blitzrage | whats a good way to check from the dialplan if a peer is registered? (SIP) |
| 03:02.28 | tainted- | i'm going to get u banned and klined and get your computer taken away |
| 03:03.14 | websae | would those be fighting words? |
| 03:03.16 | tainted- | blitzrage is there a way? |
| 03:04.11 | blitzrage | tainted-: there must be :) I'm not sure if the SIPPEER function will give me any useful info -- I'd like to see if a peer has something populated in sipregistrations somehow -- either that, or I'm just going to have to Dial() it and check for CHANUNAVAIL |
| 03:04.17 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: I could help with that, if I wanted to |
| 03:04.38 | luke-jr_ | blitzrage: something that uses the hint priority? |
| 03:05.16 | tainted- | blitzrage yea that's pretty much what i've had to resort to |
| 03:05.33 | blitzrage | luke-jr_: hrmmmm... nah, I just want to check to see if the phone is registered to this particular box, if not, then search for it via DUNDi |
| 03:05.58 | tainted- | blitzrage how's DUNDi working out for you? what do u have connected? |
| 03:06.32 | blitzrage | tainted-: multiple boxes in a core configuration which "finds" where a peer is registered and sends the calls there even if it comes in on a box where the peer isn't registered |
| 03:06.45 | blitzrage | dynamic routing essencially |
| 03:07.12 | websae | blitzrage: how are you doing? |
| 03:07.19 | blitzrage | websae: not too shabby -- you? |
| 03:07.26 | websae | hey does mixnetworks offer a e911 service on their residential? |
| 03:07.40 | blitzrage | websae: aye |
| 03:07.41 | *** part/#asterisk Cybertoy (n=maxim@dsl254-123-241.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 03:07.54 | tainted- | blitzrage what kind of scaling have u been able to get with DUNDi? |
| 03:08.06 | blitzrage | websae: that's what I've been working on for a while now -- tomorrow I have to spend a bunch of time changing over to a new function on the webservices proxy I built |
| 03:08.18 | blitzrage | tainted-: cluster of 4 boxes so far :) |
| 03:08.19 | websae | sounds like a blast! |
| 03:08.24 | blitzrage | websae: meh :) |
| 03:08.32 | blitzrage | websae: I'm currently rebuilding the core :) |
| 03:08.50 | websae | what's your softcap on your unlimited residential plan? I know quite a few people in my area looking for home phone service (similar to vonage) |
| 03:09.28 | blitzrage | websae: no softcap -- only rules are you can't send it to an IVR or wardial with it (IVR requires business plan, and wardialing requires per-minute plan) |
| 03:09.55 | websae | 3way calling is okay? |
| 03:10.14 | blitzrage | websae: I believe so |
| 03:10.38 | websae | well then I have 10 accounts for you starting next week hehehe for your residential plan! |
| 03:10.53 | tainted- | blitzrage are all the * boxes on the same subnet? |
| 03:10.54 | blitzrage | websae: coolio! :) |
| 03:11.01 | file | sweet, now blitzrage will get paid! |
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| 03:11.06 | blitzrage | tainted-: no, separate physical locations (different colo's) |
| 03:11.13 | tainted- | really! |
| 03:11.13 | blitzrage | file: I already get paid :) |
| 03:11.22 | tainted- | blitzrage is a cool guy |
| 03:11.23 | kavit | G'day |
| 03:11.38 | blitzrage | tainted-: aye, and multiple softswitches in multi-physical locations as well |
| 03:12.08 | websae | file I may have some business for you as well! |
| 03:12.44 | tainted- | blitzrage and no stability issues whatsoever? |
| 03:12.58 | file | websae: and for whom would that be exactly? |
| 03:13.28 | websae | file: me :) but i may need multiple 800dids |
| 03:13.41 | file | ah, I don't work at Asterlink anymore |
| 03:13.55 | blitzrage | tainted-: not so far -- it's in an early implementation in the production network -- I've been doing it for a while in tests and presentations |
| 03:14.03 | tainted- | file: really? since when? |
| 03:14.09 | kavit | now is there any reason why asterisk wouldnt pickup the ztdummy module? |
| 03:14.10 | blitzrage | since he moved up in the world :) |
| 03:14.13 | file | 3 weeks ago? |
| 03:14.14 | Qwell | tainted-: Since he started working for "The Man"! |
| 03:14.24 | ManxPower | kavit, if you installed asterisk before you installed zaptel |
| 03:14.31 | tainted- | the Los Angeles Bingo Club? |
| 03:14.31 | websae | file: why not? |
| 03:14.52 | file | I've gone for bigger and better things |
| 03:14.59 | websae | what do you do now? |
| 03:15.07 | kavit | ManxPower: its someone elses install.... I assume |
| 03:15.08 | file | I work for Digium |
| 03:15.10 | Qwell | LIES! |
| 03:15.30 | ManxPower | kavit, and there lies the problem of doing Asterisk consulting. |
| 03:15.31 | |omni| | man..nufone got nailed this week |
| 03:15.43 | luke-jr_ | |omni|: ? |
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| 03:15.56 | kavit | ManxPower: heh wish I was getting paid for this, I am doing someone a favour |
| 03:15.56 | websae | yay---FXO this FXS that....blah blah....E1 card here, E1 card there........ |
| 03:15.57 | |omni| | lost all of their toll-free and Michigan DIDs |
| 03:16.04 | *** part/#asterisk hads|home (n=hads@203.109.245.87) |
| 03:16.18 | ManxPower | luke-jr_, Nufone and their origination providers are in a spat |
| 03:16.20 | xachen | |omni|: Yeah, was quite uhm intersting |
| 03:16.21 | |omni| | nasty issue between them and their service partner |
| 03:16.25 | |omni| | ya |
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| 03:16.49 | PakiPenguin | morning |
| 03:16.51 | kavit | ManxPower: so is there someway to fix the predicament short of reinstalling asterisk |
| 03:16.57 | tainted- | paki |
| 03:17.09 | ManxPower | kavit, no. |
| 03:17.11 | PakiPenguin | tainted-, :) |
| 03:17.14 | PakiPenguin | sup? |
| 03:17.25 | kavit | I am just trying to get trunking up and then like Pilate I can was my hands clean |
| 03:17.29 | ManxPower | but a rebuild/reinstall should not be any problem if you can get the exact same version of the source. |
| 03:17.31 | Qwell | kavit: You shouldn't need to reinstall...just recompile |
| 03:17.46 | ManxPower | Qwell, depends on what you call "reinstall". |
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| 03:17.57 | Qwell | ManxPower: insert CD, reboot ;) |
| 03:18.11 | kavit | Qwell: i think the problem here is asterisk was emerged |
| 03:18.14 | Qwell | eww |
| 03:18.16 | Qwell | unmerge it |
| 03:18.19 | kavit | the system is a mess |
| 03:18.50 | ManxPower | kavit, walk away. No run away. |
| 03:18.56 | ManxPower | Give them their money back |
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| 03:19.22 | kavit | ManxPower: there is promise of money here, I do this and impress them away from an panasonic pabx |
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| 03:19.35 | ManxPower | kavit, walk away. No run away. |
| 03:20.21 | ManxPower | It's one of the Four Great Lies. "If you fix my Asterisk you'll get more consulting work." |
| 03:20.34 | Qwell | ManxPower: What are the other 3? |
| 03:20.41 | kavit | heh I wish I didnt have bills and rent to take care of. I have heard that before |
| 03:20.58 | tessier_ | If you fix my Asterisk chicks will want to blow you |
| 03:21.10 | kavit | and yeah, like a stupid hampster I keep doing it, just hoping probability will even things out. |
| 03:21.13 | ManxPower | Qwell, "The check is in the mail." "I won't cum in your mouth." And I don't remember what the 3rd one is. |
| 03:21.27 | Qwell | ...and here, I thought you were referring only to asterisk |
| 03:21.43 | Qwell | ManxPower: "I need to go to the tool shed, to get a hammer"? |
| 03:21.46 | Qwell | :P |
| 03:22.05 | coppice | ManPower: I think they are actually counting on the second of those :-) |
| 03:22.16 | ManxPower | Oh! "I'll respect you in the morning" is the 3rd great lie. |
| 03:22.33 | file[laptop] | what about, "oh... that's not small... not much" |
| 03:23.22 | kavit | ok this is it.... emerge is broken and I am not fixing it. |
| 03:23.34 | ManxPower | one person claims the 2nd great lie is "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you." |
| 03:23.50 | Qwell | (2h min) |
| 03:24.06 | kavit | Qwell: rewrite that gaudy monstrosity? |
| 03:24.14 | kavit | you are a brave man. |
| 03:24.16 | Qwell | emerge works just fine |
| 03:24.17 | ManxPower | My minimum rate for an Asterisk install is US$1,200 |
| 03:24.26 | Qwell | ManxPower: a full install? |
| 03:24.37 | ManxPower | Qwell, minimum. |
| 03:24.38 | websae | I would fix just about any problem for $150/hr....and if I didn't know how, I would figure it out pretty quick :) |
| 03:24.53 | ManxPower | i.e. if you want 2xFXO, 2xFXS it's still the same price. |
| 03:24.56 | brookshire | shoot.. i'll do it for $75/hr |
| 03:24.57 | tessier_ | ManxPower: You've been in this channel for years. Even longer than I have. You must be an asterisk master by now. |
| 03:24.57 | brookshire | :) |
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| 03:25.14 | coppice | I've never understood the "I'll respect you in the morning" thing. Surely its breakfast you need in the morning :-\ |
| 03:25.42 | DoktorGreg | coppice, the big lie in that one, is the one the girl tells... |
| 03:26.03 | ManxPower | DoktorGreg, "Oh, I've never done THIS before!"? |
| 03:26.12 | DoktorGreg | haha! |
| 03:26.16 | DoktorGreg | you got it |
| 03:26.30 | ManxPower | tessier, in certain, specific, parts of Asterisk. |
| 03:26.31 | coppice | THIS being make love with a serial killer :-) |
| 03:26.53 | kavit | I am thinking of writing an extension generation utility using the new ael unless someone has beat me to it |
| 03:26.55 | ManxPower | tessier, In other parts, like RealTime, I just cower and hide. |
| 03:27.10 | ManxPower | kavit, AEL is....eccentric. |
| 03:27.27 | blitzrage | AEL is cool :) |
| 03:27.31 | blitzrage | AEL2 rather |
| 03:27.38 | coppice | cowering and hiding is good for $2000 a day now? no wonder all the real tech work is being exported :-) |
| 03:27.46 | ManxPower | Is AEL2 going to be in 1.4? |
| 03:27.52 | blitzrage | I think it's going to replace AEL |
| 03:27.53 | Qwell | ManxPower: I believe so, yes |
| 03:27.55 | blitzrage | and yah |
| 03:27.57 | file[laptop] | everything is outsourced now |
| 03:27.59 | Qwell | It'll be called AEL |
| 03:28.06 | Qwell | with only a tiny mention of AEL2 |
| 03:28.06 | file[laptop] | I outsource making my bed up to people in India! |
| 03:28.07 | kavit | an easy interface for people write their own dial plans without hassling me all the time |
| 03:28.07 | blitzrage | outsourcing is outsourced |
| 03:28.17 | DoktorGreg | ihhh bs |
| 03:28.17 | Qwell | blitzrage: It ends up back in the US |
| 03:28.26 | blitzrage | Qwell: heh :) |
| 03:28.30 | Qwell | desperate americans :p |
| 03:28.32 | DoktorGreg | if you have skills, no problem getting a job around here |
| 03:28.33 | ManxPower | As long as there's also an RTP jitter buffer and selftimed RTP, I can live is most other new features not being in 1.2 |
| 03:28.34 | blitzrage | performed by Canadians :) |
| 03:28.38 | ManxPower | ..er... 1.4 |
| 03:28.38 | Qwell | No wonder the code is so poorly written |
| 03:28.53 | Qwell | ManxPower: like what? |
| 03:28.57 | DoktorGreg | in fact, here in the exurbs of detroit |
| 03:29.07 | DoktorGreg | the skilled jobs go unfilled |
| 03:29.11 | coppice | I've been working recently with an Indian company that has a UK subsidiary. most of the tough technical work seems to be done in the UK |
| 03:29.51 | ManxPower | DoktorGreg, jobs go unfilled because of cheap ass HR directors that could not write a job requirements list for a tech job if they were made to do so at gunpoint. |
| 03:30.00 | ManxPower | Qwell, what like what? |
| 03:30.07 | Qwell | what features not in 1.4? |
| 03:30.19 | X-Rob | Hookers. |
| 03:30.23 | X-Rob | Hookers need to be in 1.4 |
| 03:30.25 | kavit | and clusters |
| 03:30.31 | X-Rob | clusters of hookers. |
| 03:30.34 | ManxPower | Qwell, Oh, I don't really care, as long self timed RTP, and a good, stable RTP jitter buffer is there. |
| 03:30.40 | DoktorGreg | ManxPower, sure they can, just write stuff like, 10+ years experience in c# |
| 03:30.43 | coppice | 1.4 is like 1.2 Nothing really important added. |
| 03:30.48 | ManxPower | Polycom BLF of more than 8 would be nice, but not a show stopper. |
| 03:31.23 | kavit | coppice: you mean Realtime isnt important :( |
| 03:31.26 | ManxPower | I've stopped ALL WAN VoIP until jitter buffers and self timed audio is added. |
| 03:31.46 | coppice | kavit: compared to other things, no, it isn't |
| 03:31.56 | kavit | coppice: what did you have in mind? |
| 03:32.01 | X-Rob | Hehehe |
| 03:32.15 | X-Rob | kavit, you don't read the mailing lists, do you? |
| 03:32.21 | coppice | echo, jitter, vad/cng, t.38 I can go on |
| 03:32.42 | kavit | X-Rob: not lately, I havent seen my gf in a week. too much to do |
| 03:32.51 | DoktorGreg | what the heck, how come im not running into all these jitter buffer and echo problems you guys do? |
| 03:32.59 | X-Rob | may I suggest you read the 'code cleanup concerns' thread in -dev |
| 03:33.05 | Qwell | DoktorGreg: Do you have large scale deployments? |
| 03:33.06 | ManxPower | coppice, echo is best handled by external hardware, vad/cng would be nice for me, but not a show stopper, and anyone that wants T.38 can write it their own damn self. |
| 03:33.12 | DoktorGreg | no... |
| 03:33.16 | Qwell | DoktorGreg: Then that' |
| 03:33.17 | Qwell | s why :p |
| 03:33.17 | kavit | X-Rob: In 2 weeks yes |
| 03:33.35 | kavit | because I am sure I wont have a girl friend by then |
| 03:33.58 | DoktorGreg | Qwell, how many extensions does large scale deployment start at? |
| 03:34.11 | X-Rob | 4 1/2 |
| 03:34.17 | ManxPower | DoktorGreg, echo can be tweaked out and jitter buffer issues frequently are only heard by the FAR SIDE, because most SIP phones have good jitter buffers. |
| 03:34.53 | coppice | echo for 4 port devices should be handled properly without hardware. VAD/CNG is critical for a lot of people, as the can't control what the far end does. Most people involved with * don't even understand what VAD/CNG really is. They just know things suck. T.38 is required by a huge number of people. |
| 03:34.56 | ManxPower | PSTN<->>Asterisk<->Internet<->SIP phone. The person on the SIP phone won't hear audio issues, but the person on the PSTN would. |
| 03:35.10 | DoktorGreg | but it seems to be mostly an analog termination issue? |
| 03:35.20 | ManxPower | DoktorGreg, not at all. |
| 03:35.22 | kavit | ManxPower: I will attest to that |
| 03:35.25 | blitzrage | its a NAT issue |
| 03:35.28 | coppice | ManxPower: if you are tweaking out echo your standards of acceptability are extremely low |
| 03:35.32 | blitzrage | blocking the audio from the PSTN |
| 03:35.52 | blitzrage | wait --I think I'm talking about something completely different :) |
| 03:35.58 | ManxPower | coppice, mostly it's lowering txgain until the echo is gone on most calls |
| 03:36.03 | ManxPower | granted, at that point faxes stop working. |
| 03:36.12 | X-Rob | txgain=-100 |
| 03:36.16 | X-Rob | no echo, guaranteed. |
| 03:36.26 | coppice | it doesn't go when you lower the gain. it just gets slightly less bloody annoying |
| 03:36.48 | X-Rob | ('Lo coppice, btw) |
| 03:36.50 | ManxPower | About 45 days ago I put in a Tellabs echo can box, turned off ALL Asterisk's echo can, reset the gains back to 0 for rx and tx and have not had fax problems or echo problems since. |
| 03:37.31 | ManxPower | blitzrage, you are thinking of NAT issues, not jitter buffer issues. |
| 03:37.36 | kavit | ManxPower: what was the damage done by the box, to your wallet I mean? |
| 03:37.42 | coppice | people expect no echo. none. nothing perceivable. the EC industry took years and lots of bells and whistles to get EC acceptable, because people are so fussy about it |
| 03:37.45 | ManxPower | kavit, about $250 |
| 03:37.58 | kavit | ManxPower: thats a great bargain |
| 03:38.00 | blitzrage | ManxPower: lol -- thats what I get when I try answering questions in a very tired state without reading the scrollback :) |
| 03:38.04 | Qwell | ManxPower: For what kind of connectivity? |
| 03:38.11 | ManxPower | kavit, eBay does have some great prices. |
| 03:38.14 | DoktorGreg | well the couple of times i have encountered echo it was wildly distracting |
| 03:38.19 | Qwell | T1/E1? |
| 03:38.27 | ManxPower | Qwell, T-1s (CC1 and PRI). |
| 03:38.37 | Qwell | how many in a box? |
| 03:38.39 | coppice | X-Rob: hi. i wonder if your godaddy troubles are in any way related to this big shuffling of servers they did? |
| 03:38.41 | ManxPower | We could do 20 or more T-1s with the box. |
| 03:38.42 | L|NUX | hello |
| 03:38.48 | Qwell | all for the same $250? |
| 03:38.51 | Qwell | or is that per T1? |
| 03:38.57 | DoktorGreg | um sorry for the noob WAN question, but whats the difference between a pri and t1? |
| 03:39.02 | ManxPower | Qwell, most tellabs chassis come FILLED with cards. |
| 03:39.06 | Qwell | hmm |
| 03:39.12 | L|NUX | can some one tell me how can i send email when ever any call comes ? |
| 03:39.17 | X-Rob | coppice, dunno, don't care. They are in my 'highly avoided' list and I tell everyone that they suck. Pretty much all that I can do. |
| 03:39.20 | ManxPower | somegeek, yes, we could do 20 T1's worth of echo can for that $250 |
| 03:39.26 | ManxPower | Well, a little more since you need the right cables. |
| 03:39.35 | ManxPower | somegeek == Qwell |
| 03:39.39 | coppice | X-Rob: how is the new provider? |
| 03:39.44 | Qwell | "right cables" == normal T1 crossover? |
| 03:39.53 | X-Rob | coppice, not bad. THey don't mess me with, I don't disturb them. It works pretty well 8) |
| 03:39.55 | ManxPower | kavit, You need the right chassis |
| 03:40.11 | luke-jr_ | just do duplex the whole way? |
| 03:40.20 | coppice | X-Rob: did you sort out your kernel updates? |
| 03:40.21 | blitzrage | DoktorGreg: PRI is the signalling over a T1 connection |
| 03:40.22 | ManxPower | The first chassis I got was WIRE WRAP |
| 03:40.39 | coppice | wire wrap? must be ancient |
| 03:40.43 | ManxPower | Then just as I got the testbed box working great Katrina came and I had to replace the chassis and cards. |
| 03:40.47 | ManxPower | coppice, Yeah. |
| 03:40.52 | ManxPower | But they still work just fine. |
| 03:41.03 | kavit | ManxPower: I will have a look into it. just someone I know who runs a medium sized venture and might be interested |
| 03:41.10 | coppice | wire wrap is much more reliable, when done right |
| 03:41.37 | ManxPower | kavit, the tellabs docs suck, nobody wants to help you get it working, but once you DO get it working it just works |
| 03:41.59 | X-Rob | coppice, nah. I haven't worried to much about it yet - when I get * running on there then I'l lhave to care about it |
| 03:41.59 | ManxPower | coppice, I'll pull the chassis out of storage when I have time to find the right wire wrap tools |
| 03:42.17 | X-Rob | I'll prolly get their onsite geeks to actually go look at the screen and find out why it wasn't rebooting with .14.7 |
| 03:42.25 | kavit | ManxPower: I am sure kind samaritans like you will always make sure people do not suffer needlessly |
| 03:42.32 | kavit | ManxPower: I love communities |
| 03:43.21 | ManxPower | kavit, nah. Too complex and requires too much teaching of basic concepts. That's why I don't (usually) admit that I have a working Tellabs install or that I use polycom phones at my clients |
| 03:44.35 | kavit | ManxPower: ah well if the guy who runs that business wants it bad enough and it beyond my scope I am sure he will be willing to add adequate financial remuneration |
| 03:45.34 | ManxPower | kavit, large piles of cash always get my attention. BTW, what region is this business located in? |
| 03:45.47 | X-Rob | small unmarked bills. |
| 03:45.57 | kavit | ManxPower: australia |
| 03:46.02 | coppice | unmarked bills == blank sheets of paper |
| 03:46.13 | Qwell | coppice: uncompleted (but signed) checks |
| 03:46.49 | ManxPower | kavit, E-1 echo can is....less available |
| 03:46.52 | X-Rob | coppice, and that's exactly why I like them. If there's nothing on the bill, I don't have to pay anything! |
| 03:47.17 | coppice | i wonder why E1 cans are less available |
| 03:47.37 | kavit | ManxPower: ah |
| 03:47.42 | X-Rob | coppice, because the US is so damn big and they all use T1's. |
| 03:47.43 | X-Rob | coz they're stupid. |
| 03:47.57 | kavit | and Japan |
| 03:48.21 | X-Rob | they got better tho, they'r emainly using E1 now. |
| 03:48.22 | coppice | the US is ~250M. the rest of the world is >5B. I think E1 wins :-) |
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| 03:48.34 | ManxPower | kavit, Unfortunatly Aussieland is not part of my expanded region that I am now accepting customers in. |
| 03:48.35 | kavit | ah didn't know that |
| 03:48.44 | ManxPower | But a 1-time thing would be OK |
| 03:48.52 | X-Rob | uh, kavit? |
| 03:49.09 | X-Rob | <-- australia |
| 03:49.11 | ManxPower | T-1 equipment is cheap, thats why I like it. |
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| 03:49.32 | coppice | only when second hand is acceptable |
| 03:49.44 | kavit | ManxPower: I will ask the guy, if he is willing to spend money, people tend to talk it up but when it comes time to fork out dollars |
| 03:49.46 | kavit | ... |
| 03:50.13 | kavit | X-Rob: i didnt know Japan were mainly using E-1s now |
| 03:50.21 | ManxPower | kavit, *nod* I'm not really qualified to charge for consulting on E-1 lines. |
| 03:50.31 | coppice | X-Rob: who is mainly using E1 now? |
| 03:50.42 | X-Rob | coppice, japan is (that's what I thought?) |
| 03:50.50 | coppice | Japan doesn't use E1 at all |
| 03:50.55 | ManxPower | <-- Now accepting new clients in Birmingham, Atlanta, Huntsville, Chattanooga, and Montgomery. |
| 03:51.00 | coppice | it is Taiwan which is moving to E1 |
| 03:51.09 | X-Rob | ah. |
| 03:51.09 | coppice | HK is still T1 |
| 03:51.10 | X-Rob | sorry. |
| 03:51.32 | coppice | T1 equipment doesn't work in Japan, though |
| 03:51.45 | kavit | don't be sorry X-Rob, it is Japan that should be sorry for using T1 |
| 03:51.49 | coppice | Its actually J1 they use, which is very slightly different |
| 03:52.23 | ManxPower | kavit, if you are REALLY desperate you could make T-1 echocan work with E-1 lines, but you'd have to use Asterisk to convert htem |
| 03:52.28 | X-Rob | anyway, kavit http://aussievoip.com.au/wiki/WPM4L-Support |
| 03:52.32 | coppice | in Taiwan they call J1 T1M - M for modified |
| 03:52.55 | X-Rob | if you want australian consulting - where in .au are you anyway? |
| 03:53.11 | ManxPower | You could also use a Digium card with a VPM (echocan) card, but I've heard mixed results with that. |
| 03:53.25 | coppice | Straight US T1 equipment will work in HK, but it won't generally be approved for connection |
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| 03:53.46 | X-Rob | coppice, minor protocol changes or something? |
| 03:53.54 | Iaxy | Hi all... |
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| 03:54.08 | kavit | X-Rob: I am in Sydney and I am not in need of consultancy, a client may need it he decides to spend some money |
| 03:54.22 | Iaxy | IS anyone running asterisk and linux on an HP proliant xeon? |
| 03:54.50 | coppice | X-Rob: J1 is just purposely modified a little to make it incompatible. The japanese drove the digital network development in Taiwan, and got J1/T1M in there too. |
| 03:54.58 | X-Rob | kavit, fair enough. I'm in sydney reasonbly regularly. I've got a big rollout in melbourne next month. |
| 03:55.15 | X-Rob | coppice, hah. Embrace and Extend. |
| 03:55.41 | coppice | X-Rob: I guess you must wear out cars pretty quickly |
| 03:55.52 | kavit | X-Rob: do you mainly consult |
| 03:55.55 | JamesDotCom | that's why planes were invented :D |
| 03:56.05 | X-Rob | coppice, yeah.. I've got 90k on the prado so far (and it's uh, 17 months ol dnow) |
| 03:56.09 | X-Rob | 90k km |
| 03:56.11 | X-Rob | kavit, yeah |
| 03:56.55 | X-Rob | JamesDotCom, yes if you like getting CANCER! |
| 03:57.49 | X-Rob | Anyway. We're going to the beach now. Seeyas. |
| 03:58.08 | JamesDotCom | ...planes cause cancer now? |
| 03:58.51 | kavit | X-Rob: i am about start my own venture doing similiar stuff, any advice? |
| 04:00.27 | Assid | is there any sip client for symbian s60 phones? |
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| 04:07.08 | coppice | for what kind of S60 phones? bluetooth? |
| 04:07.26 | Assid | nokia 6670 - GPRS |
| 04:07.34 | Assid | am actually using gnubox |
| 04:08.06 | coppice | SIP over GPRS is pretty nasty, and doesn't seem to make a lot of sense |
| 04:08.23 | Assid | well.. im using my pc's bandwith for gprs |
| 04:13.42 | Assid | coppice? |
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| 04:18.43 | luke-jr_ | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2016-May/thread.html <-- wtf? |
| 04:19.49 | coppice | 2016, and still running the same old software, eh? :-) |
| 04:20.16 | brookshire | it's a message from the future |
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| 04:31.50 | coppice | unfortunately it provides no useful source code from 2016 versions of software :-) |
| 04:33.06 | ManxPower | I frequently get email dated with tomorrows date. |
| 04:33.33 | kavit | ManxPower: easiest way to travel time :P |
| 04:36.10 | L|NUX | how can i get email on incoming calls ? |
| 04:36.12 | L|NUX | any idea |
| 04:36.17 | L|NUX | i have setup this but not working |
| 04:36.47 | L|NUX | exten => s,1,System(/bin/echo -e "'Incoming call from :${CALLERID} \\r Received: ${DATETIME}'" | /usr/bin/mail -s "'Phone call'" f4fahmed@gmail.com) |
| 04:40.38 | luke-jr_ | L|NUX: *why*? |
| 04:40.43 | luke-jr_ | email is not realtime, calls are |
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| 04:41.42 | L|NUX | well yes |
| 04:41.50 | Cardoe | any howto people suggest for home usage? |
| 04:41.57 | ManxPower | I used to use something similar to IM me when a call failed. |
| 04:42.07 | L|NUX | humm |
| 04:42.20 | L|NUX | ManxPower : but IM will work if i am online :) |
| 04:42.25 | L|NUX | if i am not online then :) |
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| 04:46.16 | luke-jr_ | Cardoe: you could copy my extensions.ael |
| 04:46.23 | luke-jr_ | Cardoe: it's mostly home-based |
| 04:46.39 | luke-jr_ | tho not home-ITSP-based |
| 04:46.44 | Cardoe | ITSP? |
| 04:46.51 | luke-jr_ | Internet Telephony Service Provider |
| 04:46.57 | luke-jr_ | I use wholesale stuff |
| 04:47.19 | Cardoe | ok |
| 04:47.20 | luke-jr_ | so multiple companies and such |
| 04:47.27 | luke-jr_ | but at least some might be relevant |
| 04:48.46 | luke-jr_ | Cardoe: want me to paste it? |
| 04:48.59 | L|NUX | sorry got dc |
| 04:49.04 | L|NUX | so any luck with my problem |
| 04:49.14 | Cardoe | luke-jr_: yeah |
| 04:50.07 | luke-jr_ | k, 1 sec |
| 04:50.23 | luke-jr_ | oh, and a warning |
| 04:50.42 | luke-jr_ | my setup records all calls; depending on what state you live in, it might be illegal |
| 04:53.55 | L|NUX | hmm |
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| 04:57.45 | luke-jr_ | Cardoe: http://pastebin.ca/50528 |
| 04:58.06 | luke-jr_ | Cardoe: let me know how it works out for you |
| 04:58.30 | L|NUX | luke-jr_ : any help for my problem :) |
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| 04:59.36 | luke-jr_ | L|NUX: I think it's pointless |
| 04:59.38 | luke-jr_ | IM works best |
| 04:59.43 | luke-jr_ | so what if you're offline? |
| 04:59.53 | luke-jr_ | just get the IM when you connect |
| 05:00.00 | L|NUX | humm |
| 05:00.29 | L|NUX | then tell me how can i do this :) |
| 05:00.29 | L|NUX | tell me IM thingy |
| 05:00.46 | luke-jr_ | Cardoe: to disable call recording, comment (prefix "//") the line "&prepcall_beginmonitor(${context},${exten});" in macro prepcall |
| 05:00.56 | luke-jr_ | L|NUX: dunno, it's on my todolist |
| 05:01.01 | Cardoe | what's.. astDB? |
| 05:01.20 | luke-jr_ | no clue; I don't use it |
| 05:01.40 | luke-jr_ | I think an internal Asterisk database |
| 05:01.43 | luke-jr_ | to store crap in |
| 05:02.07 | Cardoe | cause there's a reference to it in sip.conf |
| 05:02.08 | luke-jr_ | but like I said, I don't use it ;) |
| 05:02.32 | luke-jr_ | I wouldn't worry about it |
| 05:02.36 | luke-jr_ | certainly not for a home setup |
| 05:04.17 | luke-jr_ | my astdb seems to have just SIP registrations and dundi stuff |
| 05:04.24 | luke-jr_ | which is all invisible to me ;) |
| 05:04.42 | luke-jr_ | basically, it's primarily for internal code |
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| 06:08.44 | websae | quiet place here tonight |
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| 06:20.52 | terr_ | Since I know nothing about asterisk I'd like to ask some simple questions. 1) how do I get a phone number? |
| 06:21.07 | websae | from a DID provider |
| 06:21.15 | terr_ | 2) how can I dial someone not usuing asterisk? |
| 06:21.19 | websae | yes |
| 06:21.27 | terr_ | how much does a number cost? |
| 06:21.43 | terr_ | how do I find a DID provider? Can I become one? |
| 06:21.59 | Math` | you got a PRI? |
| 06:22.05 | Math` | well a couple of em |
| 06:22.26 | terr_ | PRI? what is that? |
| 06:22.41 | Math` | er, you heard about a T1 before? |
| 06:22.49 | terr_ | ya - I know about T1 |
| 06:22.57 | terr_ | I also know about dilogic cards |
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| 06:25.50 | tainted- | how do i show peers from manager api? |
| 06:26.08 | terr_ | what does pri stand for? |
| 06:26.22 | DoktorGreg | primary rate interface |
| 06:26.30 | terr_ | and DID? |
| 06:26.37 | DoktorGreg | either |
| 06:26.41 | DoktorGreg | dial i d |
| 06:26.45 | DoktorGreg | or device i d |
| 06:26.52 | tainted- | pretty ridiculous infrastructure |
| 06:26.59 | DoktorGreg | depending on who you talk to |
| 06:27.19 | terr_ | ok - so to become a DID I need to call up the phone company and order up a bank of lines with a dial tone - presumably via a T1 I/F? |
| 06:27.35 | DoktorGreg | terr_, as far as i can tell |
| 06:27.45 | DoktorGreg | you get a pri line from the phone company |
| 06:27.48 | terr_ | is there another way to do this? |
| 06:27.56 | DoktorGreg | then you also get a block of DID's |
| 06:28.04 | terr_ | Ok - get a PRI and that gives me a bank of numbers... |
| 06:28.09 | DoktorGreg | no |
| 06:28.14 | terr_ | no? |
| 06:28.15 | DoktorGreg | the bank of numbers is seperate |
| 06:28.50 | terr_ | I assume the PRI runs over a T1 then? |
| 06:29.06 | websae | PRI is a T1 |
| 06:29.07 | DoktorGreg | AFAIK (i am not a wan expert by any means) |
| 06:29.17 | tainted- | terr_ before everyone sells u the world, what are u trying to accomplish? |
| 06:29.18 | terr_ | ok. |
| 06:29.19 | DoktorGreg | a pri is a way of trasmitting voice over a t1 |
| 06:30.14 | DoktorGreg | but before you spend a hunk of money, |
| 06:30.19 | DoktorGreg | look at voip options |
| 06:30.24 | terr_ | standard T1 will mutilplex 24 analogue DS0's |
| 06:30.29 | DoktorGreg | 23 |
| 06:30.36 | Math` | well depends if you use a PRI |
| 06:30.37 | DoktorGreg | you need the d channel for signalling |
| 06:30.47 | Math` | you can use 24 B-channels and signal using DTMF |
| 06:30.50 | Math` | but you'd be dumb |
| 06:30.53 | terr_ | ok - so I get 23 numbers then. |
| 06:30.59 | DoktorGreg | no |
| 06:31.05 | tainted- | terr_ what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 06:31.09 | DoktorGreg | you get as many numbers as you want with a pri |
| 06:31.12 | terr_ | how many numbers on a PRI? |
| 06:31.13 | websae | you can get 23 channels to call |
| 06:31.18 | tainted- | terr_ maybe if u tell us what u are doing, we can give u the best solution |
| 06:31.19 | terr_ | ok |
| 06:31.20 | websae | you can get as many numbers as you like |
| 06:31.28 | Math` | you are only limited by the number of SIMULTANEOUS calls |
| 06:31.38 | Math` | if you have 50 numbers and only 23 calls at the same time, you're ok |
| 06:31.56 | nextime | IF pri is a t1 23 is right. If PRI is E1 30 channels. |
| 06:31.56 | DoktorGreg | 23 lines is a lot |
| 06:31.56 | terr_ | Well - I want to find out what I can do with asterisk mostly. But I'd like to set up a local number in a number of different cities and get a fax capabilty |
| 06:32.12 | tainted- | terr_ then your best bet is voip |
| 06:32.42 | terr_ | I was thinking of using asterisk for that |
| 06:32.42 | tainted- | a PRI is going to tie u down to one area |
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| 06:32.47 | DoktorGreg | in a call center with 15 operators, I am peaking at about 5 simultanious calls |
| 06:32.53 | lucifr | Hello... |
| 06:33.06 | DoktorGreg | 23 is a lot |
| 06:33.17 | orlok | why 15 operators then? |
| 06:33.20 | orlok | :) |
| 06:33.34 | DoktorGreg | they have stuff to do before and after calls |
| 06:33.45 | DoktorGreg | also, last few years more and more comes in from web site |
| 06:33.50 | tainted- | terr_ ask for DIDs from different rate centers |
| 06:35.07 | tainted- | terr_ a DID number originates the call, but for you to call elsewhere, u need termination |
| 06:35.20 | DoktorGreg | PRI is cheaper at about 6 pots lines is why we have pri |
| 06:35.29 | tainted- | terr_ unless you are running an IVR, then u only need origination |
| 06:35.33 | terr_ | on the phone |
| 06:36.04 | DoktorGreg | PRI also gets you into the crazy 1 cent a minute long distance deals |
| 06:36.21 | lucifr | I'm trying to create small Asterisk solution for myself... (7) mailboxes, VOIP, etc.) I have the VIA EPIA NL1000 in mind... Now, my dilema is what distro I should use that will support all Asterisk features... Please advise... |
| 06:36.44 | DoktorGreg | lucifr, rapid linux |
| 06:36.57 | tainted- | DoktorGreg within your LATA |
| 06:37.00 | lucifr | DoktorGreg, thanx |
| 06:37.13 | DoktorGreg | tainted-, huh? |
| 06:37.19 | lucifr | anyone else? |
| 06:37.21 | JamesDotCom | DoktorGreg: if he's asking a question like that then he probably shouldn't be thinking about using anything but a mainstream distro |
| 06:37.21 | DoktorGreg | whats LATA? |
| 06:37.32 | tainted- | DoktorGreg 1c/min to where? all of US? or within your rate center |
| 06:37.38 | nextime | lucifr : in my opinion, only debian exists :) |
| 06:37.43 | DoktorGreg | any place in us |
| 06:37.49 | DoktorGreg | sprint is our carrier |
| 06:38.07 | DoktorGreg | we buy it in blocks |
| 06:38.16 | tainted- | DoktorGreg what kind of min/month do u do? |
| 06:38.20 | tainted- | blocks of 100? |
| 06:38.29 | DoktorGreg | im not certain |
| 06:38.44 | tainted- | how much is origination? |
| 06:38.48 | DoktorGreg | Since iven been monitoring it |
| 06:38.55 | hads|home | lucifr: You are best off using the distro that you are most comferatble with. Astersik will work on any distro. |
| 06:39.02 | DoktorGreg | which is new since asterisk |
| 06:39.10 | DoktorGreg | we have about 2 calls going all the time |
| 06:39.19 | DoktorGreg | max at about 5 calls |
| 06:39.19 | lucifr | DoktorGreg, I don't seem to find "Rapid Linux" you mentioned! |
| 06:39.20 | tainted- | that's insane |
| 06:39.30 | tainted- | 1 PRI? |
| 06:39.53 | tainted- | lucifr fedora is good, so is centos and debian |
| 06:39.56 | JamesDotCom | lucifr: go with something like debian/ubuntu/redhat/fedora/centos |
| 06:40.21 | DoktorGreg | http://www.xorcom.com/ |
| 06:40.35 | DoktorGreg | its based on debian |
| 06:40.43 | DoktorGreg | but it is a bristuff branch |
| 06:40.48 | DoktorGreg | so it will never run pri |
| 06:41.06 | DoktorGreg | but other than that |
| 06:41.08 | hads|home | Yeah, Xorcom Rapid is a good starting point. |
| 06:41.16 | DoktorGreg | intall it, and you are up and running |
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| 06:41.39 | DoktorGreg | IMO even though it caused me problems (ugh 2 days) with pri |
| 06:41.46 | DoktorGreg | it was a great first distro |
| 06:42.25 | lucifr | guys, I need a small footprint OS distro since this board is a nano-ITX running only at 1Ghz... So, if I install "debian/ubuntu/redhat/fedora/centos" it will istall all the bells and witles I don't need.. I need only a plain-vanilla distro with support of all Asterisk features... |
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| 06:42.43 | JamesDotCom | so get ubuntu |
| 06:42.50 | JamesDotCom | install ubuntu-server |
| 06:42.55 | JamesDotCom | which is minimal |
| 06:43.04 | JamesDotCom | install the few packages you need |
| 06:43.21 | JamesDotCom | any "distro" will support asterisk features |
| 06:43.27 | JamesDotCom | asterisk supports it's own features |
| 06:43.36 | PakiPenguin | lucifr, gentoo or slackware! |
| 06:43.42 | dlynes | lucifr: Try slackware then, with the 'a', 'k', and 'n' packages |
| 06:43.45 | tainted- | lucifr those mentioned distros will be slim enough to handle your application if u know how to slim them down |
| 06:43.49 | JamesDotCom | the distro is supplemental to running asterisk on |
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| 06:44.22 | dlynes | lucifr: erm 'a', 'd', 'k', and 'n' packages I mean |
| 06:44.26 | lucifr | JamesDotCom, really? I don't want to even connect a monitor display all the time... only the first time of setup and remotely manage the system (SSH?) |
| 06:44.32 | DoktorGreg | im so sad, borland killed kylix |
| 06:44.55 | DoktorGreg | now they plan on killing delphi |
| 06:45.18 | JamesDotCom | lucifr: that's possible on any distro |
| 06:45.20 | dlynes | old news, dg |
| 06:45.30 | DoktorGreg | i know |
| 06:45.34 | DoktorGreg | but i live in bubble |
| 06:45.40 | DoktorGreg | i just found out |
| 06:45.48 | JamesDotCom | but it's my impression that if you're asking what distro you should use to "support asterisk's features" then you're not capable of installing slackware, or gentoo, or anything non-maintstream |
| 06:45.49 | lucifr | I see, thanks a lot guys... I appreciate all your time and help |
| 06:45.54 | JamesDotCom | so stick to something with plenty of easy support |
| 06:46.00 | JamesDotCom | any distro can be minimalised |
| 06:46.05 | JamesDotCom | you dont need X installed |
| 06:46.12 | JamesDotCom | in fact, you shouldn't have it installed |
| 06:46.21 | dlynes | lucifr: Or you can install zipslack |
| 06:46.22 | JamesDotCom | and in any distro worth it's space |
| 06:46.32 | JamesDotCom | dlynes: that's a retarded idea, he doesn't know what he's doing |
| 06:46.33 | dlynes | lucifr: It'll install on an existing windows partition |
| 06:46.36 | DoktorGreg | oh man slackware is dying |
| 06:46.41 | DoktorGreg | go debian |
| 06:46.46 | DoktorGreg | then dont install anything |
| 06:46.50 | tainted- | lucifr do not install X |
| 06:47.16 | dlynes | JamesDotCom: Well, you seemed to indicate he wasn't a linux person...if he's a windows person, he'd be right at home :) |
| 06:47.19 | tainted- | lucifr unless u like 'hearing' server processes in your calls |
| 06:47.41 | JamesDotCom | dlynes: that certainly doesn't make zipslack any easier to understand/install |
| 06:47.58 | DoktorGreg | debian + apt-get, omg ponies! |
| 06:48.00 | dlynes | JamesDotCom: No, but he wouldn't have to repartition, reformat |
| 06:48.11 | JamesDotCom | look at his original question |
| 06:48.16 | tainted- | apt-get is so r0x0rz |
| 06:48.17 | JamesDotCom | he has a 1ghz small form-factor pc |
| 06:48.21 | lucifr | DoktorGreg is right... I don't know what I'm doin, but at least I'm gonna try this and see where it takes me, that is why I'm here... trying to find answers and hints before I go into the quest.... |
| 06:48.23 | JamesDotCom | he wants it to run headless |
| 06:48.33 | DoktorGreg | try rapid for a day |
| 06:48.33 | JamesDotCom | he doesn't want windows on it then a distro on top of that |
| 06:48.35 | dlynes | DoktorGreg: Actually...you can download a minimalist debian package, right? and then install the absolute minimum after that? |
| 06:48.41 | DoktorGreg | yup |
| 06:48.46 | DoktorGreg | get the debian network install disk |
| 06:48.55 | dlynes | DoktorGreg: yeah...that's what I was thinking |
| 06:48.56 | DoktorGreg | install NOTHING |
| 06:48.57 | tainted- | lucifr try them all |
| 06:49.05 | dlynes | DoktorGreg: something like the freebsd network install disk |
| 06:49.22 | DoktorGreg | dont know closest to bsd ive used is slack |
| 06:49.25 | tainted- | lucifr just boot into a virtual machine and try 'em all |
| 06:49.32 | lucifr | tainted-, thank you... |
| 06:49.43 | JamesDotCom | lucifr: i dislike advocating almost any distro because the resulting wars are so lame... but you're probably best in my opinion going for something like ubuntu.. it's debian with a lot more polish/up to date/and i find more forgiving community support... you boot it up and type "ubuntu-server" it installs the bare minimum system |
| 06:49.51 | DoktorGreg | slack misses a lot of hardware now days though... |
| 06:50.27 | dlynes | DoktorGreg: I've never had a problem with recent releases |
| 06:51.04 | tainted- | how dare u say debian is not up to date |
| 06:51.05 | DoktorGreg | it missed a sata driver on me the other day |
| 06:51.06 | luke-jr_ | terr_: to be a DID provider, you allow *others* to use VoIP for PSTN connectivity |
| 06:51.16 | luke-jr_ | terr_: if you just want to use VoIP, then you go through one of them |
| 06:51.26 | DoktorGreg | i have used slack for a long time, dont get me wrong |
| 06:51.29 | exten123 | guy I got big problem already. why my sip can't hear what I said but I can hear what there said. why I can't figure out the reason. Please help |
| 06:51.30 | DoktorGreg | i like slack |
| 06:51.39 | JamesDotCom | heh |
| 06:51.53 | tainted- | exten123 sounds like blocked rtp port(s) |
| 06:51.55 | JamesDotCom | i haven't used slackware since 3.4 or something like that |
| 06:52.02 | JamesDotCom | it had been far surpassed at that stage |
| 06:54.21 | tainted- | how do i find out connected peers using manager api (sip or iax) |
| 06:54.30 | DoktorGreg | where is the conventional place to start asterisk in init.d? |
| 06:54.44 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: any idea why I'd have exten123's problem when doing a reinvite to and from the same host? |
| 06:54.45 | JamesDotCom | DoktorGreg: that's distro specific |
| 06:54.45 | tainted- | DoktorGreg what distro |
| 06:54.51 | DoktorGreg | debian |
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| 06:55.00 | JamesDotCom | /etc/rc2.d then |
| 06:55.09 | JamesDotCom | just put it as S99 |
| 06:55.30 | tainted- | luke-jr_ have u looked at rtp stream during call |
| 06:57.26 | exten123 | tainted, u mean the client computer rtp port or asterisk rtp port been block? |
| 06:59.07 | DoktorGreg | oh duh |
| 06:59.11 | DoktorGreg | its already set |
| 07:01.20 | exten123 | luke-jr_, you mean when we do reinvite then it will occur that kind of problem? |
| 07:01.22 | lucifr | guys, I read about the "Hitachi Wireless IP5000 (WIP-5000)" phone and it register with an Asterisk server once it finds a open Access Point (AP). Is there a softphone that can do the same as the Hitachi Wireless phone? Is there a softphone for a Pocket phone as well? |
| 07:02.08 | lucifr | correction, Pocket PC phone that is... |
| 07:02.10 | tainted- | lucifr dude |
| 07:02.17 | lucifr | :0 |
| 07:02.19 | lucifr | yes |
| 07:02.34 | tainted- | lucifr u just cross like 3 osi layers bro |
| 07:02.43 | lucifr | lol |
| 07:03.29 | lucifr | I'm new to Asterisk and Linux in general... I really love this stuff... I wanna get into it |
| 07:03.43 | tainted- | handshaking w/ ap and phone registering to asterisk is two different layers |
| 07:04.16 | exten123 | when we need to set NAT=yes to sip.conf? |
| 07:04.36 | lucifr | tainted-, the Hitachi phone even a new one coming from Linksys will be able to do this... |
| 07:05.13 | tainted- | are u talking about keeping a call up while roaming between access points? |
| 07:05.31 | lucifr | tainted-, yes |
| 07:06.07 | lucifr | more phones are on the way.... Helio dot com is reading phones for this spring |
| 07:06.56 | tainted- | lucifr OH, well then just set 802roaming=yes in the general section of sip.conf/iax.conf |
| 07:07.35 | lucifr | tainted-, imagine once google rolls out their free wireless internet across the US... it will be awsome!!! bye-bye carriers! |
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| 07:08.36 | tainted- | i'd rather imagine being massages by 3 swedish models |
| 07:08.45 | tainted- | but the google thing is pretty cool too ... |
| 07:08.58 | lucifr | lol... |
| 07:09.03 | DoktorGreg | yah, i traditional telephone carriers are already on rocks with cell phones |
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| 07:09.05 | tainted- | s/massages/massaged/ |
| 07:09.15 | lucifr | yeah, that would be kool too |
| 07:09.21 | DoktorGreg | voip will end the traditional phone carriers for good |
| 07:09.41 | lucifr | yes! |
| 07:09.46 | DoktorGreg | unless they can figure out how to jam video down those dsl lines |
| 07:09.53 | lucifr | at last!!! |
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| 07:10.34 | tainted- | DoktorGreg that's just video=yes in dsl.conf d00d |
| 07:10.55 | lucifr | DoktorGreg, remember president Bush wants every house with at least DSL... At least that's what he said yesterday in California! |
| 07:11.11 | DoktorGreg | im still waiting to see the 100Mbit dls lines that the cable companies have... |
| 07:11.16 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: how am I to do that? |
| 07:11.29 | lucifr | DoktorGreg, If they do that I would switch to cable! |
| 07:12.02 | DoktorGreg | on my coax i can run my 10Mbit internet, plus watch two channels of on demand video |
| 07:12.24 | DoktorGreg | dsl is not even close to that kind of bandwitdth... |
| 07:13.18 | lucifr | DSL is not even available in some areas where I live... it sux.. |
| 07:14.16 | *** part/#asterisk websae (n=websae@CPE-24-167-206-22.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 07:14.20 | lucifr | what's the deal with Asterisk and Google? |
| 07:14.42 | JamesDotCom | they're the same company |
| 07:14.44 | DoktorGreg | lucifr, if Bush said something, I'd flip that about 180 degrees |
| 07:14.59 | DoktorGreg | and realize that may be closer to truth |
| 07:15.30 | lucifr | lol |
| 07:16.01 | tainted- | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:16.18 | lucifr | JamesDotCom, I was talking about the jabber propocol... |
| 07:16.30 | DoktorGreg | besides, does bush even know what dsl is??? OR did some guy from telco say that then hand him a check for a million dollars? |
| 07:16.45 | DoktorGreg | I might add |
| 07:16.51 | JamesDotCom | lucifr: in that case, you'll want to check out freeswitch.org isntead ;) |
| 07:16.53 | DoktorGreg | not that Kerry would be any different at all |
| 07:17.07 | DoktorGreg | Kerry would be all like |
| 07:17.27 | DoktorGreg | I think all Americans should or should not have dsl in the future! |
| 07:17.42 | DoktorGreg | I supported DSL before I was against DSL! |
| 07:17.43 | lucifr | JamesDotCom, thanx |
| 07:20.57 | DoktorGreg | the other thing commin soon |
| 07:21.09 | DoktorGreg | from the oddly very high tech burbs of detroit |
| 07:21.15 | DoktorGreg | is cars that drive themselves |
| 07:21.31 | DoktorGreg | starting to see the robot cars all over the place around detroit |
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| 07:23.48 | DoktorGreg | and we have free wireless here... |
| 07:23.57 | DoktorGreg | but it is like 256kbs |
| 07:24.32 | DoktorGreg | and doesnt work with vonage wifi phones for some reason... |
| 07:25.20 | tainted- | just vonage? |
| 07:25.25 | tainted- | or all voip providers |
| 07:25.32 | DoktorGreg | I havent tried yet |
| 07:25.41 | tainted- | probably blocked port |
| 07:25.42 | DoktorGreg | i only have a vonage wifi phone |
| 07:25.51 | DoktorGreg | it sees the network |
| 07:25.55 | DoktorGreg | and tries to log on |
| 07:25.55 | tainted- | i swear there is a market for vpn'ed voip |
| 07:25.59 | DoktorGreg | but it never registers |
| 07:26.25 | DoktorGreg | wprks great at coffee shops |
| 07:26.36 | DoktorGreg | not mcDonalds though |
| 07:27.03 | DoktorGreg | again, i bet vonage is blocked becuase of damage it would do to price structure |
| 07:27.07 | tainted- | how about the gas station at 7th and main |
| 07:27.23 | DoktorGreg | works at library |
| 07:27.47 | DoktorGreg | oh it works in the jackson wifi netowrk |
| 07:27.59 | DoktorGreg | I forgot about that |
| 07:28.07 | DoktorGreg | if you live in jackson michigan |
| 07:28.14 | DoktorGreg | get a wifi phone |
| 07:28.29 | tainted- | i thought wifi phones sucked |
| 07:28.40 | tainted- | b/c 802.11x reorders packets |
| 07:28.55 | DoktorGreg | I am having good luck |
| 07:29.43 | DoktorGreg | I read some winers comments about them on slashdot |
| 07:29.52 | DoktorGreg | which has not been my experience |
| 07:30.09 | DoktorGreg | if i had to complain about anything witht he starcom phone |
| 07:30.21 | DoktorGreg | it is battery |
| 07:30.26 | DoktorGreg | and not loud enough |
| 07:30.37 | DoktorGreg | I have to charge it every day |
| 07:31.12 | DoktorGreg | it is a GREAT tool for finding open wifi's though |
| 07:31.18 | DoktorGreg | because it beeps whenever you are in one |
| 07:34.03 | DoktorGreg | ok my complain with the slash dot mod point system is this |
| 07:34.22 | DoktorGreg | you get either really good posts, or really really bad posts |
| 07:34.53 | DoktorGreg | and the bad posts are modded insightful about twice as often as the good posts |
| 07:34.55 | tainted- | i thought about creating a digest site of highly modded slashdot posts |
| 07:35.38 | DoktorGreg | lol |
| 07:35.50 | tainted- | that can be further modded |
| 07:36.59 | DoktorGreg | i wish someone would start developing software with the slashdot mod system |
| 07:37.38 | DoktorGreg | or even just a web 2.0 IDE |
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| 07:38.23 | DoktorGreg | with massive negative automatic mods for breaking the build |
| 07:38.53 | DoktorGreg | Then the maintainer would start a new thread |
| 07:39.03 | DoktorGreg | and people could code away |
| 07:39.16 | DoktorGreg | bad code would get modded down |
| 07:39.22 | DoktorGreg | etc... |
| 07:39.38 | DoktorGreg | then at the build level |
| 07:39.49 | DoktorGreg | you use link to compile the module |
| 07:40.03 | DoktorGreg | i donno |
| 07:40.13 | DoktorGreg | i guess if i want to be a hactivist |
| 07:40.18 | DoktorGreg | I have to just put it together |
| 07:41.05 | DoktorGreg | The other thing that would be neat is if something like kernel source was in a wiki build system |
| 07:41.46 | Qwell | Just because code compiles, doesn't mean it'll even work...or start, for that matter |
| 07:42.12 | DoktorGreg | thats what assert is for |
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| 07:43.00 | DoktorGreg | granted... |
| 07:43.18 | DoktorGreg | I like the idea of limited maintainers in something like the kernel... |
| 07:44.18 | DoktorGreg | Qwell, I think with enough tinkering a mod system like that would be like a genetic algo, but with a directed purpose |
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| 07:47.55 | DoktorGreg | problem with programmers is... |
| 07:48.31 | DoktorGreg | look at the flack and delays caused by just changing the build system from cvs to subbersion caused in the linux kernel |
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| 07:50.57 | terr_ | websea still here? |
| 07:51.53 | terr_ | luke-jr_: still here? |
| 07:52.11 | terr_ | Ok - what does DID stand for again? |
| 07:52.13 | Qwell | ~did |
| 07:52.15 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, did is Direct Inward Dialing |
| 07:52.31 | terr_ | Qwell: thanx |
| 07:52.52 | terr_ | what of outgoing? does DID include that? |
| 07:52.56 | Qwell | no |
| 07:53.03 | Qwell | DID is basically a phone number |
| 07:53.03 | Qwell | bbl |
| 07:53.19 | terr_ | so if I want to provide inward adn outward what do I need? |
| 07:53.59 | tainted- | inward u need origination provider |
| 07:54.05 | tainted- | outward u need termination provider |
| 07:54.36 | terr_ | tainted-: I understand (possibly incorrect) that I can do both if I have a PRI interface to a server |
| 07:54.39 | lucifr | nite every1 |
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| 07:54.54 | tainted- | u don't need PRI |
| 07:55.20 | tainted- | u can use voip |
| 07:55.23 | terr_ | I can do it if I have a land line and terminate it on a server... multiply by the # of lines I need right? |
| 07:55.46 | luke-jr_ | terr_: yes |
| 07:55.56 | tainted- | no |
| 07:55.58 | terr_ | luke-jr_: ok - I get teh picture. |
| 07:56.03 | luke-jr_ | terr_: what DID stands for is irrelevant-- it's a phone number =p\ |
| 07:56.12 | tainted- | your landline can handle only a fixed # of calls |
| 07:56.31 | tainted- | u are getting landline and did mixed up |
| 07:56.46 | luke-jr_ | terr_: a regular land line will not work for a PBX well |
| 07:56.53 | terr_ | so I conclude I can cut out the phone comapny more or less completely by putting an asterisk server in each clients' home/office and have them peered with a big server hooked to a bank of PRI"s or less or more. |
| 07:57.15 | terr_ | luke-jr_: why won't a regular land line work? |
| 07:57.18 | tainted- | PRIs are from the phone company |
| 07:57.21 | tainted- | u idiot |
| 07:57.22 | luke-jr_ | terr_: you can cut the phone company out of the clients' homes, but that PRI will be connected to one |
| 07:57.22 | terr_ | luke-jr_: why won't a regular land line work "well"? |
| 07:57.31 | luke-jr_ | terr_: regular land lines are analog, not digital |
| 07:57.37 | terr_ | I know that. |
| 07:58.00 | luke-jr_ | analog does not have info like: on-the-hook, ringing, busy, congestion, hangup, etc |
| 07:58.13 | luke-jr_ | just audio |
| 07:58.15 | luke-jr_ | and maybe caller id |
| 07:58.16 | terr_ | luke-jr_: in the off chance that I could get every home in a city as a client I could cut them out of everything except the DSL lines. |
| 07:58.30 | terr_ | gotcha |
| 07:58.30 | luke-jr_ | terr_: and your PRI line |
| 07:58.36 | luke-jr_ | s |
| 07:58.44 | terr_ | I'd have to have a lot of bandwidth... |
| 07:58.47 | tainted- | lol |
| 07:58.52 | luke-jr_ | but if you got the entire city as your customer, you are their phone company |
| 07:58.54 | orlok | i wonder who would own the fibre :) |
| 07:59.00 | terr_ | exactly |
| 07:59.01 | luke-jr_ | and your PRIs would be merely long-distance |
| 07:59.17 | tainted- | we need a freaking #asterisk-newbie or #voip-dreams |
| 07:59.24 | luke-jr_ | and if you have the entire city as your subscribers, you might as well buy the customer internet service there |
| 07:59.36 | luke-jr_ | and run the DSL yourself |
| 07:59.57 | luke-jr_ | and then you might as well just use the copper phone lines |
| 08:00.06 | luke-jr_ | and we're back to the same old classic phone company again! |
| 08:00.07 | luke-jr_ | :) |
| 08:00.08 | terr_ | yup. |
| 08:00.24 | terr_ | tainted-: nothing worng with having big plans of world domination... you know |
| 08:00.26 | tainted- | if i can buy cake at the store, then we can eliminate ovens from the planet -- we'd make MILLIONS |
| 08:00.43 | orlok | heh |
| 08:00.47 | terr_ | tainted-: I make my own cake - and bread. |
| 08:00.53 | luke-jr_ | ... |
| 08:00.54 | terr_ | and beer and wine too. |
| 08:00.57 | luke-jr_ | terr_: I think you missed his irony |
| 08:01.40 | terr_ | luke-jr_: Of course I did - I'm just exploring what can be done and where the limits are - by doing this I start to see the playing feild |
| 08:01.59 | luke-jr_ | terr_: I suggest doing what I am: start off with your home ;) |
| 08:02.07 | luke-jr_ | using other ITSPs |
| 08:02.19 | tainted- | luke-jr_ but there's no money in your home |
| 08:02.19 | terr_ | luke-jr_: that's where I will start when I get to it. |
| 08:02.29 | terr_ | ITSPs?? translation? |
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| 08:02.44 | terr_ | tainted-: there is money in mine. |
| 08:02.47 | luke-jr_ | I don't think you'll get many customers going for "We'll be a better phone company-- just commit to switching to us, and we'll buy the stuff we need to give you the service!" |
| 08:02.55 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: sure there is, in savings |
| 08:03.13 | luke-jr_ | terr_: ITSP = Internet Telephony Service Provider |
| 08:03.39 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: how am I supposed to see the RTP streams when I'm doing a reinvite between my ITSP and themself? |
| 08:03.47 | terr_ | luke-jr_: I dunno - western Gecko was one of my better customers. I supplied a lot of stuff to them and many asked how I landed the largest field services geophysical contractor as a customer - I did good work. |
| 08:03.52 | terr_ | gotcha |
| 08:04.09 | tainted- | luke-jr_ ethereal |
| 08:04.16 | luke-jr_ | terr_: well, I think in practice providing the service first gets the customers |
| 08:04.30 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: won't show anything since RTP is staying at my ITSP |
| 08:04.33 | terr_ | luke-jr_: agree - issue is what can be provided. |
| 08:04.41 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: that's why I'm doing a reinvite |
| 08:04.58 | tainted- | why are u doing that |
| 08:05.07 | luke-jr_ | terr_: well, if you can get reinvite working, it's theoretically posssible to support a large number of users off a cable connection, I think |
| 08:05.15 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: I don't want the bandwidth use |
| 08:05.25 | terr_ | from what I can tell - between any paior of cooperating asterisk servers we have everything a PSTN can provide. |
| 08:05.29 | luke-jr_ | I'm just routing one POTS to another |
| 08:05.48 | luke-jr_ | terr_: except enum |
| 08:05.51 | tainted- | luke-jr_ if u are trying to handoff sip w/ getting involved in the media stream, asterisk was the wrong choice |
| 08:06.02 | tainted- | luke-jr_ what you really want is something like SER or openSER |
| 08:06.05 | terr_ | enum? this is not #c |
| 08:06.13 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: ... |
| 08:06.47 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: I just want the audio to go directly; signalling staying at my end |
| 08:07.02 | tainted- | right |
| 08:07.03 | luke-jr_ | terr_: enum is how you can lookup a 10 digit phone number and get the IP info |
| 08:07.13 | tainted- | u just want to handle signalling w/o touch media |
| 08:07.17 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: and some stuff prior to the reinviting, note |
| 08:07.29 | terr_ | oh - new use for the term - and enum in this context stands for what? |
| 08:07.34 | tainted- | that's what SER was developed for |
| 08:07.48 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: oh well, I know Asterisk stuff |
| 08:07.55 | luke-jr_ | terr_: enumeration? |
| 08:08.10 | terr_ | in C/c++ that is what it stands for... |
| 08:08.20 | tainted- | u just asked to pound a nail in the wall w/ a screwdriver |
| 08:08.30 | terr_ | in this context it must be a lookup table |
| 08:08.48 | tainted- | terr_ how about RTFM |
| 08:08.52 | DoktorGreg | from a discussion i just missed |
| 08:08.55 | tainted- | what's your analysis on that |
| 08:08.58 | luke-jr_ | terr_: dig NAPTR 2.1.0.3.6.5.2.6.1.8.1.e164.org |
| 08:09.04 | DoktorGreg | from a business point of view |
| 08:09.17 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: I doubt SER can handle the stuff I want prior to the reinviting |
| 08:09.20 | DoktorGreg | voip works because bandwidth doesnt care how it is transmitted |
| 08:09.21 | terr_ | tainted-: I just wanted to ask some simple questions about what asterisk can do before I start setting up a server. |
| 08:09.35 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: anyway, it works in theory-- I'm just not getting audio in one direction |
| 08:09.39 | DoktorGreg | bandwidth in form of pots from local telco is very expensive |
| 08:09.48 | tainted- | terr_ and all of those things have been answered in a million times |
| 08:09.59 | tainted- | terr_ there is the wiki, which has a wealth of info |
| 08:10.02 | DoktorGreg | with broadband the 40kbs or so you need for phone is cheap |
| 08:10.07 | tainted- | http://www.voip-info.org |
| 08:10.10 | terr_ | tainted-: I didn't know about the wiki |
| 08:10.18 | luke-jr_ | terr_: I think tainted-'s point is that simple questions have simple answers already documented ;) |
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| 08:10.37 | luke-jr_ | terr_: the wiki is necessary to keep sanity ;) |
| 08:10.40 | tainted- | i almost never lose my patience w/ n00bs |
| 08:10.40 | DoktorGreg | the voip-info site rock, spend a couple hours reading |
| 08:10.48 | terr_ | luke-jr_: they probably are - but its easier to pop in here and get abused a little for being lasy |
| 08:11.01 | tainted- | unless they talk out of their asses |
| 08:11.22 | terr_ | tainted-: I deal with a lot of n00bs as well and similarly don't usually lose patience |
| 08:11.42 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: Is my problem likely on the ITSP's end? |
| 08:11.45 | tainted- | luke-jr_ if they can't take the time to fundamentally understand the concepts before asking questions, then wtf is the point |
| 08:11.56 | terr_ | tainted-: sometimes you have to turn them over. 69 is one of my favorite mubers |
| 08:11.57 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: shrug |
| 08:12.07 | tainted- | luke-jr_ where/how are u doing reinvite |
| 08:13.36 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: Dial(SIP/18605388774@sellvoip,,rA(tt-monkeysintro)o); is what actually makes the connection |
| 08:14.00 | luke-jr_ | err, please don't call my cell tho >_< |
| 08:14.10 | tainted- | lol |
| 08:14.46 | DoktorGreg | read about the dial command, for simply switching it is the only command you need |
| 08:15.04 | luke-jr_ | DoktorGreg: yes, that is the Dial command... |
| 08:15.32 | DoktorGreg | lol |
| 08:16.00 | DoktorGreg | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+Dial |
| 08:16.05 | luke-jr_ | I know |
| 08:16.26 | luke-jr_ | the reinvite even occurs; it just doesn't work as expected :\ |
| 08:19.12 | tainted- | luke-jr_ i don't think ur the first to attempt/fail at this before switching to something like SER |
| 08:19.55 | luke-jr_ | tainted-: I'm more likely to fix the bug than to use SER |
| 08:20.58 | tainted- | it's not a bug |
| 08:22.14 | luke-jr_ | a non-functional reinvite isn't a bug? |
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| 08:23.03 | tainted- | sigh |
| 08:23.48 | luke-jr_ | %(% |
| 08:23.57 | luke-jr_ | I stick Ethereal on it (to look at SIP packets)... |
| 08:24.01 | luke-jr_ | and now it decides to work -.- |
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| 09:15.52 | zoa | did anybody see or hear mark lately ? |
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| 09:24.35 | stoffell_h | Shaun222, you could make symbolic links to 1 catch-all box i suppose |
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| 09:33.53 | Shaun222 | stoffell_h: i figured it out using Mailboxexists() |
| 09:34.14 | Shaun222 | pretty simple, if the box exists it sends to n+101 |
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| 09:34.27 | Shaun222 | if it doesnt it continues on... when next is the default voicemail box... |
| 09:34.33 | Shaun222 | thanks though |
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| 09:35.22 | d4rkstar | hi.. |
| 09:35.29 | d4rkstar | someone can giveme an help? |
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| 09:42.17 | d4rkstar | hi |
| 09:42.19 | pdunkel | Hi everyone! |
| 09:42.19 | d4rkstar | someone can giveme an help? |
| 09:42.34 | Mavvie | not without telling what the problem is. |
| 09:42.35 | d4rkstar | pdunkel, have some experience with gnu telephony? |
| 09:42.51 | pdunkel | Yes if you tell me what I need to do for asterisk to utilize ztdummy (Module is installed and loaded) |
| 09:43.15 | pdunkel | d4rkstar: A bit, not much |
| 09:43.16 | d4rkstar | I'm trying to get bayonne working with sip |
| 09:43.34 | pdunkel | Where's the problem? |
| 09:44.37 | d4rkstar | i've successfully registered the xlite softphone and bayonne on partysip proxy |
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| 09:45.05 | pdunkel | Gr8, so where's the problem ;) |
| 09:45.11 | d4rkstar | but when try to call from softphone to bayonne, i get a 404 not found |
| 09:45.32 | pdunkel | That usually happens if the exten you dial does not exist. |
| 09:45.41 | d4rkstar | from bayonne log: registration for sip:201@10.0.1.116:5070 confirmed |
| 09:46.04 | pdunkel | What's your extensions.conf look like? What are you dialing? Has the softphone correctly registered? What context is it in? |
| 09:46.39 | d4rkstar | i'm using bayonne2 |
| 09:46.49 | pdunkel | do a "set verbose 9999999999999999999" |
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| 09:46.57 | pdunkel | after that do a "sip show users" |
| 09:47.07 | d4rkstar | from the tcpmon you say? |
| 09:47.33 | pdunkel | in sip.conf add "qualify=yes" to the the peers/friend entries |
| 09:47.47 | pdunkel | No, in the * CLI |
| 09:48.08 | d4rkstar | pdunkel, i'm using partysip not * :( |
| 09:48.26 | d4rkstar | i'm a bit OT |
| 09:48.29 | d4rkstar | i know |
| 09:48.47 | pdunkel | Any case: Here is what seems to be happening. |
| 09:49.36 | pdunkel | A 404 you get when the SIP-Proxy (in your case Partysip) cannot find the dialed extension. So you should check, that the phone (softphone) that is doing the dialing is correctly setup. |
| 09:50.40 | pdunkel | That means, that it can dial extensions and find them. Only after you have confirmed that the calling phone is settup right should you worry about the receiving end. A 404 is a strong hint something is wrong on the calling end. |
| 09:50.45 | d4rkstar | the strange thing is that when I dial, my call is logged from bayonne2 |
| 09:51.07 | pdunkel | What do you mean by "is logged from"? |
| 09:51.32 | d4rkstar | in the log file of bayonne the call is traced with a "sip: got bye for non-existant call" |
| 09:53.56 | d4rkstar | pdunkel, google is poor of info about bayonne :( |
| 09:54.45 | pdunkel | Are the bayonne and partysip on the same network but on different machines? (I presume yes) |
| 09:58.31 | d4rkstar | the same network |
| 10:01.48 | pdunkel | For some reason bayonne does not get the call-setup, but does get the teardown. Can you get a sip debug-log from the partysip? |
| 10:04.19 | d4rkstar | pdunkel, now i try to configure the script in sip.conf file of bayonne |
| 10:04.36 | d4rkstar | about the debug-log of partysip |
| 10:05.07 | d4rkstar | now i try to see if it dump something of interesting |
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| 10:24.27 | d4rkstar | pdunkel, got connected .. i'm on the right way :D |
| 10:24.45 | pdunkel | Cool. Good luck! |
| 10:24.51 | d4rkstar | thank you anyway |
| 10:24.52 | d4rkstar | :D |
| 10:29.28 | RoyK | ~nickometer d4rkstar |
| 10:32.55 | pdunkel | Anyone has any pointers for me regarding ztdummy (modules loaded, chan_zap.so loaded, everything fine except lsmod say ztdummy unused) |
| 10:33.00 | pdunkel | What am I missing |
| 10:35.07 | pdunkel | ~nickometer pdunkel |
| 10:43.18 | RoyK | ~nickmeter 1337r00t |
| 10:43.19 | jbot | 1337r00t is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 10:43.26 | RoyK | pdunkel: it's quite simple... :) |
| 10:44.40 | pdunkel | It's so simple, that a sipleton like me is too dumb for it. Maybe a g(uru/odd)like beeing such as yourself might take pitty upon me and give me a hint? |
| 10:46.30 | RoyK | pdunkel: i was merely referring to the nickometer, sir |
| 10:47.47 | pdunkel | Aah, damn, and I had hopes ;) |
| 10:48.11 | pdunkel | *RoyK falls of a huge pedestal that he hath meen put upon. :) |
| 10:48.21 | pdunkel | Well I guess I'm out of luck today |
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| 10:49.15 | RoyK | pdunkel: just a sec. testing a little.... |
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| 11:02.18 | d4rkstar | pdunkel, it work... |
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| 11:02.32 | pdunkel | What exactly di you do? |
| 11:04.11 | d4rkstar | reconfigured sip settings on bayonne |
| 11:04.33 | d4rkstar | bayonne runs on the same machine where runs partysip |
| 11:04.45 | d4rkstar | so bayonne2 will bound on port 5070 and partysip on port 5060 |
| 11:05.09 | d4rkstar | so when calling from softphone, i've to call sip:user@bayonne:5070 |
| 11:05.14 | d4rkstar | that's all |
| 11:06.05 | d4rkstar | i'll write an howto for bayonne2 based on my personal experiences |
| 11:10.24 | pdunkel | Maybe it would have been smart to mention that Bayonne is running on the same machine as Partysip. That would been a pretty goo clue. 2 SIP Stacks on 1 Machine is alway a bit tricky. |
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| 11:17.08 | d4rkstar | :) |
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| 11:19.20 | svenna_ | hi all |
| 11:20.37 | svenna_ | is it possible to let asterisk place a call and let ir ring just for 5 sec after the caller has hung up? |
| 11:20.42 | svenna_ | i mean |
| 11:21.02 | svenna_ | a call comes in - in this case it gets routed to the mailbox |
| 11:21.39 | svenna_ | when the caller hangs up, asterisk calls my mobil for 5 sec to let me know i ve got new messages... |
| 11:21.50 | rhowe | svenna_: I don't think the remote party hanging up means that asterisk has to terminate the call |
| 11:22.15 | rhowe | svenna_: Maybe there's a flag to the Dial application which means "carry on with the dialplan after this call" or something |
| 11:22.35 | svenna_ | ah, ok i will look 4 that |
| 11:22.37 | svenna_ | thx |
| 11:22.43 | pdunkel | That is what the h exten is for! |
| 11:22.55 | pdunkel | The flag for dial you may want to look at is g |
| 11:22.57 | svenna_ | ah |
| 11:23.27 | svenna_ | so after the 1,2,3 etc in the dialplan i use h to place the call? |
| 11:23.30 | rhowe | There you go, someone who knows what they're talking about :) |
| 11:23.30 | pdunkel | You coud do something like |
| 11:23.43 | pdunkel | exten => 123,1,Voicemail(b123) |
| 11:24.01 | pdunkel | exten => 123,2,Set(mailboxes=true) |
| 11:24.37 | pdunkel | exten => h,1,GotoIf($[mailboxed!=true],3) |
| 11:24.49 | pdunkel | exten => h,2,Dial(Mobile) |
| 11:25.12 | svenna_ | ok |
| 11:25.15 | svenna_ | nice! |
| 11:25.21 | svenna_ | thanks |
| 11:25.26 | pdunkel | This was off the top of my head. Please test before actually using this. This is just a pointer. Not actually tested, working stuff! |
| 11:25.42 | svenna_ | ok ill go for that :-) |
| 11:25.44 | rhowe | svenna_: sue pdunkel if it doesn't work ;) |
| 11:25.52 | svenna_ | :) |
| 11:26.27 | pdunkel | Go for it. I live in .at They really dislike people suing for silly things. Private litigation has a fine of imprisonment attached to it :) |
| 11:26.35 | rhowe | hehe |
| 11:27.26 | rhowe | Has anyone heard of a guy called Charles Sibbald? |
| 11:27.37 | rhowe | He's giving a talk this afternoon in London to the Greater London LUG |
| 11:32.31 | pdunkel | Nope. But go and listen to him. Maybe there is 1% actually bonafide information. I have found that such talks are usually just a buzzword-throwing-competition! |
| 11:34.01 | pdunkel | http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/roh/401.htm this isn't him I guess :) |
| 11:35.55 | d4rkstar | pdunkel |
| 11:36.05 | pdunkel | Yes! |
| 11:36.09 | d4rkstar | do you know xlite softphone? |
| 11:36.14 | pdunkel | Yes! |
| 11:36.26 | d4rkstar | i can place a call, but can't send dtmf |
| 11:36.40 | d4rkstar | is there in xlite some setting that i can change? |
| 11:37.05 | pdunkel | Check the dtmf encoding used by the server and by xlite. they have to match. There are several modes: inband, outband rfcxxx |
| 11:37.31 | d4rkstar | ok, check in progress... |
| 11:37.32 | rhowe | X-Lite works for me with no magic configuration using rfc<something> |
| 11:37.38 | pdunkel | You'll have to fiddle a bit. But it does work in general. Just make sure your dtmf-encoding matches. |
| 11:38.05 | rhowe | My problems with DTMF are going the other way.. I've got an asterisk box hooked up to the office PBX using a BRI interface |
| 11:38.21 | rhowe | If you call asterisk using the extension number the PBX has for the BRI i/f, you can't send DTMF |
| 11:38.32 | d4rkstar | in Advanced System Settings->DTMF Settings |
| 11:38.43 | rhowe | The PBX intercepts it as an extension to which you wish to transfer the call.. I think I need to tell the PBX that the BRI i/f is a trunk |
| 11:38.51 | rhowe | (and therefore to hand off the call to the asterisk box) |
| 11:38.52 | d4rkstar | I've set DTMF Force Send In Band: Yes |
| 11:39.07 | rhowe | d4rkstar: Well, try it with no :P |
| 11:39.29 | pdunkel | You should first check partybox and find out what it uses and then just match xlite to it. |
| 11:39.47 | d4rkstar | ok pdunkel, now check all the stuffs .D |
| 11:39.48 | d4rkstar | :D |
| 11:40.25 | pdunkel | rhowe: Do you have any ztdummy experience? |
| 11:40.33 | rhowe | pdunkel: Well, I have it loaded |
| 11:40.49 | rhowe | pdunkel: All I loaded it for was because music on hold complained that it wasn't there :) |
| 11:40.58 | pdunkel | Me too (the kernel module) but an lsmod tells me it is unused. What am I doing wrong? |
| 11:40.59 | rhowe | pdunkel: Had to hack it a bit to build under 2.6.16.5 |
| 11:41.09 | rhowe | pdunkel: hm.. lemme see |
| 11:41.34 | pdunkel | It seems * just isn't using it, although it is there and chan_zap has been loaded |
| 11:41.46 | rhowe | ztdummy 2760 0 |
| 11:41.47 | rhowe | zaptel 219076 9 ztdummy |
| 11:41.47 | rhowe | crc_ccitt 1792 1 zaptel |
| 11:42.02 | rhowe | *shrug* music on hold doesn't complain any more |
| 11:42.44 | pdunkel | Ah well. I guess I'll wait for more traffic on monday. Maybe one of the *-hackers has a quick answer. |
| 11:43.02 | rhowe | I've seen references to echo cancellation hardware and E1 lines |
| 11:43.10 | rhowe | How much is it needed? |
| 11:43.28 | rhowe | They say it applies to long E1 lines.. does a link from the office to the local telephone exchange count as "long"? |
| 11:43.37 | pdunkel | I don't have any hardware. I do plain VoIP so I wouldn't know. |
| 11:43.46 | rhowe | It seems asterisk doesn't do any echo cancellation or something? |
| 11:44.20 | pdunkel | But I'd guess it does. I read somewhere (zapata.conf) anbout distances in feet (0-200,200-500,500-1000,1000+) But don't quote me |
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| 11:54.01 | d4rkstar | hey pdunkel, in bayonne sip driver configuration i found: |
| 11:54.54 | d4rkstar | # dtmf id for rfc 2833 dtmf payload mapping. Set 0 to ignore 2833 |
| 11:55.01 | d4rkstar | ;dtmf = 101 |
| 11:55.13 | d4rkstar | so my configuration is to ignore rfc 2833 |
| 11:55.18 | d4rkstar | then |
| 11:55.21 | d4rkstar | inband = false |
| 11:55.46 | d4rkstar | now i try to set dtmf = 101 (in bayonne and in xlite) leaving inband = false |
| 11:56.38 | d4rkstar | nope |
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| 12:07.36 | d4rkstar | some xlite experienced user? |
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| 12:08.59 | tzanger | bkw__: around? |
| 12:09.10 | d4rkstar | hi tzanger |
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| 12:14.30 | d4rkstar | some xlite experienced user? |
| 12:15.41 | MoutaPT | Hi all, any one could tell me why asterisk, has SIP user agent in call, i simply disconnect my lan cable, so no connection to asterisk for my sip user agent, asterisk doesn't detect that sip user agent isn't there any more so no end for the call... |
| 12:16.06 | MoutaPT | i've tried maxexpirey too |
| 12:19.37 | d4rkstar | some xlite experienced user? |
| 12:20.11 | MoutaPT | i've been using xlite, not a guru |
| 12:20.18 | MoutaPT | may be i can help |
| 12:20.36 | d4rkstar | thx MoutaPT. Ii've a problem with dtmf and bayonne |
| 12:21.03 | d4rkstar | i can place a call with xlite, but dtmf tones are not recognized from bayonne |
| 12:21.17 | d4rkstar | the codec used is g711u |
| 12:22.49 | d4rkstar | MoutaPT, i've resolved :D |
| 12:23.17 | d4rkstar | thx anyway |
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| 12:28.02 | svenna_ | rhowe : pdunken was totaly right! it works fine :-) |
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| 14:00.36 | pif | hi, what kind of cable should I use between a E1 card and a legacy PBX ? |
| 14:00.51 | pif | straight or cross or special? |
| 14:01.22 | austinnichols101 | I beleive cross |
| 14:01.41 | pif | cross ethernet or cross isdn? |
| 14:02.27 | austinnichols101 | not sure of the difference between the two |
| 14:10.52 | blitzrage | cross ISDN |
| 14:11.19 | blitzrage | not sure if the E1 is wired different than T1... but there is a link for the cabling on asterisk.org in the docs section |
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| 14:20.26 | pif | thanks |
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| 14:22.46 | pif | blitzrage : can't find it, do you have a link? |
| 14:24.30 | pif | hi bkw_, do you know what cables E1/T1 require? |
| 14:24.37 | pif | wrong chan |
| 14:26.16 | tier_1 | anyone have internal_auth.php ? |
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| 14:33.33 | markmcq | Does anyone have experience on Asterisk -> PRI -> Definity Generic 3? |
| 14:36.09 | markmcq | I'm getting Level 2 Frame errors reported a whole lot on the Def. console...And the D-channel spontaneously drops about two-three times a day. |
| 14:37.31 | [TK]D-Fender | PRI card resources not being shared I hope.... |
| 14:38.12 | markmcq | ??? - I don't know what you mean...At which side? |
| 14:39.17 | Assid | err.. irq.. |
| 14:39.57 | markmcq | No. not at all. There are no reported errors on the Asterisk side at any level that I can find. zttool is clean... |
| 14:40.10 | Cardoe | Registration from '<sip:grandstream101@192.168.2.52>' failed for '192.168.2.51' - Not a local SIP domain |
| 14:40.41 | Cardoe | But I have 192.168.2.0/24 in sip show domains under local |
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| 14:41.19 | BugKham | can't I do "asterisk -rx sip show peers? |
| 14:41.44 | [TK]D-Fender | markmcq : on the * side naturally. Is the card alone in cat /proc/interrupts? Pastebin it... |
| 14:41.46 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 14:41.47 | jbot | it has been said that pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
| 14:42.06 | [TK]D-Fender | BugKham : asterisk -rx "sip show peers" |
| 14:42.23 | BugKham | [TK]D-Fender: thanks |
| 14:42.40 | kamileon | does anyone in here have boost/nextel ? |
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| 14:43.50 | markmcq | [TK]D-Fender: I went through this with Digium. /proc/interrupts is clean. I have run loopback tests as well. They come back totally clean. There is no reported IRQ problems at all. |
| 14:46.25 | [TK]D-Fender | markmcq : And none of the "trouble" items in your box? (e1000, i7205 chipset, etc?) |
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| 14:48.11 | markmcq | None that were reported in the e-mail from Digium. I tried this with a totally different PC, totally different hardware, same problem. |
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| 15:03.28 | chiardon | Hello... I have a weird issue. My * box is working OK. but I can't seem to get a dialtone. I can dial normally, but there is no dialtone!!! Any ideas why this could be happening?? |
| 15:04.03 | chiardon | I have a dual E1, and two channelbanks |
| 15:04.05 | blitzrage | SIP or ZAP? |
| 15:04.08 | chiardon | ZAP |
| 15:04.13 | blitzrage | what is the phone plugged into |
| 15:04.19 | chiardon | the wall |
| 15:04.29 | [TK]D-Fender | What does working ok mean in contrast to "can't get dial-tone"? From what kind of phone? If you don't get tone what seems OK about it? |
| 15:04.43 | blitzrage | aye |
| 15:04.44 | chiardon | you can dial |
| 15:05.08 | [TK]D-Fender | What DEVICE is the phone plugged into? "The wall" does not count... |
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| 15:05.20 | [TK]D-Fender | And what kind of phone? |
| 15:05.24 | Maxxed | yo fellas :) |
| 15:05.54 | chiardon | [TK]D-Fender --> not my fault :P Its connected to the channelbanks, its an ordinary analog phone (Samsung, Panasonic, Conair, Siemens etc) |
| 15:06.30 | [TK]D-Fender | chiardon : Ok, so its an analog phone plugged into a channelbank. What mode of CB, and what is the CB plugged into? |
| 15:06.39 | [TK]D-Fender | And don't you dare say "the wall"! |
| 15:06.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Or AC, or 110v! |
| 15:06.54 | chiardon | FXO Channelbank |
| 15:07.10 | [TK]D-Fender | chiardon : You don't plug a PHONE into an FXO channel bank! |
| 15:07.23 | chiardon | shit hold on |
| 15:07.31 | [TK]D-Fender | chiardon : You plug phone LINES into an FXO channel bank... |
| 15:08.04 | chiardon | My channelbank is signalled FXO |
| 15:09.27 | chiardon | So .... Its my bad and the CB is FXS :$ |
| 15:09.38 | [TK]D-Fender | chiardon : Pastebin your zapata.conf.... you're sounding backwards... |
| 15:09.46 | Maxxed | hey, when calling other sip phones internaly, it shows the exten@10.0.0.10 ip addr of the pbx |
| 15:09.55 | Maxxed | what should i look at changing to fix that ? |
| 15:10.06 | Maxxed | just show the exten, not all that @.... blah crap |
| 15:10.26 | file[laptop] | Maxxed: on the screen of the phone? |
| 15:10.30 | Maxxed | yeah |
| 15:10.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Maxxed : Thats because the channel is passing through *. It should look like that, though the phoone MAY re-invite if told it can. |
| 15:10.33 | Maxxed | 2960's |
| 15:10.35 | Maxxed | er |
| 15:10.38 | Maxxed | 7960's |
| 15:10.40 | Maxxed | sorry ;) |
| 15:10.45 | file[laptop] | which firmware? |
| 15:11.26 | Maxxed | pos3-08-2-00 |
| 15:11.44 | file[laptop] | thought so, I remember reading something on the mailing list about that |
| 15:11.45 | chiardon | http://pastebin.ca/50564 |
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| 15:11.53 | Maxxed | it didnt use to show that before |
| 15:12.00 | Maxxed | it was just the exten |
| 15:12.02 | chiardon | [TK]D-Fender --> http://pastebin.ca/50564 :) |
| 15:12.11 | file[laptop] | but you upgraded the firmware, right? |
| 15:12.28 | Maxxed | yeah, but i didnt have the problem untill i upgraded asterisk |
| 15:13.35 | file[laptop] | are you sure? can you downgrade just to be sure? |
| 15:15.19 | [TK]D-Fender | chiardon : Ok, so the phone gets no dial-tone from the CB, but can still dial? |
| 15:16.27 | Maxxed | file: sure, i'll give it a shot |
| 15:16.49 | chiardon | yeap |
| 15:17.34 | [TK]D-Fender | chiardon : Hmmm, anything look wrong on you CB itself? |
| 15:17.52 | [TK]D-Fender | chiardon : And still get audio, etc? |
| 15:18.11 | chiardon | yeah |
| 15:18.18 | chiardon | I get Audio and everything |
| 15:18.21 | chiardon | just no dialtone |
| 15:18.25 | Maxxed | rollin back to P003-07-5-00 |
| 15:18.27 | chiardon | Weird, right? |
| 15:21.43 | [TK]D-Fender | chiardon : Hmm |
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| 15:23.02 | Sebb | hi.. is it possible to send additional variables when using iax? e.g. for calling-presentation info and so on? i found that "IAX2 call variable passing between servers"-thread on asterisk-dev, but no solution (?) |
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| 15:25.54 | Assid | hey [TK]D-Fender, file .. whats up |
| 15:25.55 | kamileon | does anyone in here have boost/nextel ? |
| 15:25.58 | Assid | how you guys? |
| 15:26.28 | chiardon | See anything strange? |
| 15:26.39 | [TK]D-Fender | chiardon : Looks kinda normal... |
| 15:26.59 | chiardon | Other than it beeing split in half |
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| 15:28.37 | chiardon | [TK]D-Fender --> So .... |
| 15:35.32 | asterboy | ~tftp |
| 15:35.33 | jbot | [tftp] being worked on and nfsboot of ne2k cards should be there soon. |
| 15:35.44 | asterboy | wtf |
| 15:36.01 | kamileon | does anyone in here have boost/nextel ? |
| 15:37.39 | JerJer | kamileon: yes |
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| 15:38.08 | bonfire1 | anyone from israel? |
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| 15:54.57 | docelmo | bonfire1 I was about 6 generations ago |
| 15:58.25 | *** join/#asterisk daguerro (i=dag@lss-67-33.ee.ITB.ac.id) |
| 15:59.02 | daguerro | hi... |
| 15:59.14 | bonfire1 | hallo |
| 16:00.01 | daguerro | did somebody ever try ENUMLOOKUP function? |
| 16:00.57 | tzafrir_home | daguerro, I didn't, however you better ask your question anyway |
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| 16:03.27 | daguerro | i've got a problem when i'm trying to use it. it says : enum.c:224 parse_naptr : NAPTR Regex compilation error (regex "!^*!) |
| 16:04.40 | hodrige | x |
| 16:04.46 | daguerro | sorry, (regex "!^*$") |
| 16:05.03 | daguerro | i dont know whats wrong |
| 16:06.54 | tzafrir_home | daguerro, methinks you should pastebin your relevant cconfiguration |
| 16:07.04 | tzafrir_home | ~pb |
| 16:07.06 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
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| 16:12.37 | *** part/#asterisk kamileon (n=kamileon@68.62.190.253) |
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| 16:16.54 | tzanger | AHA |
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| 16:18.06 | Flauto | i got his message |
| 16:18.22 | Flauto | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:18.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Flauto : Its a Polycom thing..... not serious, but I think its being fixed... |
| 16:19.05 | Flauto | i just got it now |
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| 16:20.11 | kamileon | does anyone know the power requirements for the tdm digium cards |
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| 16:20.29 | hodrige | does anyone know how the macro "dialout-trunk" works? |
| 16:21.37 | Flauto | tkd-fender, is there anything i can do? or i just can live with it? |
| 16:23.22 | Corydon76-home | kamileon: power requirements? it takes a Molex connector |
| 16:23.41 | Corydon76-home | It'll run fine on a 300W power supply |
| 16:24.01 | Corydon76-home | along with the rest of the computer |
| 16:24.28 | Corydon76-home | It doesn't even need it for a TDM04B |
| 16:27.07 | kamileon | Corydon76-home: ok well i have a 200W supply in my machine, with tdm card, ethernet, and x100p, will that cause the tdm to just randomly not work right |
| 16:27.14 | kamileon | or one of the channels to not calibrate? |
| 16:33.36 | *** part/#asterisk daguerro (i=dag@lss-67-33.ee.ITB.ac.id) |
| 16:37.56 | *** join/#asterisk fugitivo (n=ajf@201.255.183.205) |
| 16:38.02 | fugitivo | hello |
| 16:38.07 | brookshire | hi |
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| 16:43.19 | *** join/#asterisk _DAW (n=bob@adsl-150-58-174.msy.bellsouth.net) |
| 16:44.31 | fugitivo | if anyone is interested, i've succesfully connected asterisk with a siemens hipath 3500 using qsig |
| 16:47.34 | *** part/#asterisk epl (n=epl@4-1-4-39d.gmt.gbg.bostream.se) |
| 16:48.05 | _DAW | does anyone here know how to properly set dhchp option 66 in dhcpd.conf? I want to boot my polycoms from my * box. |
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| 16:49.44 | bonfire1 | all the guys working in the asterisk "industry": did you do any course or something about it? all from the internet? any academic diplomas? engineer? computer-science? |
| 16:51.24 | coppice | you need an MBA - Master of Bullshitting Asterisk |
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| 16:53.08 | RoyK | hehe. i setup mediawiki for an 'open wlan zones' wiki for norway and got full media coverage :) just trying to internationalise it a little :D |
| 16:54.15 | fugitivo | RoyK: where? |
| 16:54.18 | coppice | many people thing minesweeper was the program that made MS the size it is |
| 16:54.34 | fugitivo | coppice: it didn't? |
| 16:54.54 | coppice | i didn't dispute it, did i? |
| 16:54.56 | bonfire1 | no i believe it was solitaire |
| 16:54.59 | RoyK | fugitivo: currently only available for norway and iceland - no.freewlan.org and is.freewlan.org, but please tell what other countries you'd like |
| 16:55.14 | fugitivo | RoyK: Argentina |
| 16:55.21 | fugitivo | RoyK: ar |
| 16:55.28 | RoyK | fugitivo: give me five minutes |
| 16:56.11 | coppice | solitaire helped build microsoft, but minesweeper was the main driver. now these days it would be different. The main market for notebook computers is to run solitaire on airliners |
| 16:56.21 | fugitivo | bonfire1: maybe, i see more recepcionists playing solitaire than minesweeper |
| 16:56.35 | RoyK | fugitivo: what language? |
| 16:56.41 | fugitivo | RoyK: spanish |
| 16:56.45 | asterboy | IS there a tftpd daemon that does NOT require inetd? |
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| 16:57.22 | coppice | i see more receptionists playing solitaire than answering the phone |
| 16:57.30 | dlynes | asterboy: the one that ships with slackware is by default used in inetd, but it can run standalone, too |
| 16:57.38 | fugitivo | coppice: lol, that's true |
| 16:58.14 | *** part/#asterisk codebreaker (n=codebrea@xserver.flexserv.de) |
| 16:58.15 | fugitivo | RoyK: is that "free" wifi spots or "unprotected" wifi spots? |
| 16:58.17 | dlynes | Or manicuring their nails, or getting the latest gossip from the other women in the typing pool, ... |
| 16:58.41 | dlynes | asterboy: it's not the slackware version of tftp...it's just tftp |
| 16:58.51 | RoyK | fugitivo: it's meant for the free ones |
| 16:58.58 | RoyK | fugitivo: http://ar.freewlan.org/ |
| 16:59.04 | coppice | do typing pools still exist? |
| 16:59.14 | dlynes | asterboy: It's tftp-hpa v0.40 |
| 16:59.24 | dlynes | coppice: Most definitely |
| 16:59.50 | fugitivo | RoyK: great :) |
| 17:00.00 | asterboy | dlynes, is that the server version? |
| 17:00.10 | dlynes | coppice: they're used here for both for regular typing and data entry |
| 17:00.28 | dlynes | asterboy: correct....it's tftpd-hpa |
| 17:00.31 | asterboy | those receptionists need to be taken to the back room and... |
| 17:00.43 | dlynes | banged? |
| 17:00.51 | asterboy | balls to chin |
| 17:01.09 | asterboy | then they can play all the solitaire they want. |
| 17:01.19 | asterboy | ass, grass or gas...no one rides for free. |
| 17:01.29 | dlynes | asterboy: freshmeat.net/projects/tftp-hpa/ |
| 17:02.03 | fugitivo | RoyK: i'll add info later, i have to go |
| 17:02.16 | RoyK | ok |
| 17:02.21 | asterboy | dlynes, thanks |
| 17:02.26 | asterboy | I'll give er a try |
| 17:02.41 | dlynes | asterboy: Yeah...it supports all the basics, and all the advanced stuff, too |
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| 17:03.00 | asterboy | that would be great...I don't want to run inetd...err xinetd |
| 17:03.11 | asterboy | my lfs has very few daemons to run |
| 17:03.46 | dlynes | asterboy: It's based on the OpenBSD tftpd server |
| 17:03.56 | dlynes | lfs? |
| 17:04.05 | dlynes | oh...nvm |
| 17:04.07 | dlynes | local filesystem |
| 17:04.37 | dlynes | I think you'll be pleasantly surprised if you read the man pages for some of your xinetd daemons |
| 17:04.49 | dlynes | You'll probably find most of them will run standalone |
| 17:05.38 | dlynes | Although, I can't see a good reason to run most of them standalone...you don't use them very often, and most of them are better wrapped in tcp-wrappers because they're so insecure |
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| 17:08.24 | kamileon | asterboy: can i borrow a receptionist? |
| 17:09.31 | tzafrir_home | asterboy, what distro do you use? what version of the package "tftpd" does it have? |
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| 17:10.04 | bonfire1 | what's the best linux distribution for use with asterisk? |
| 17:10.32 | *** join/#asterisk robin_sz (n=robin@adsl.redpoint.org.uk) |
| 17:10.40 | robin_sz | meep? |
| 17:10.45 | eKo1 | Is it possible to configure a Cisco 7960 for use with Asterisk with having a TFTP server with its config. files? |
| 17:11.05 | tzafrir_home | bonfire1, I would naturally recommend Debian, but that's because I'd generally recommend Debian. |
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| 17:11.25 | robin_sz | debian, its the One True Way |
| 17:11.42 | asterboy | kamileon, you want sloppy seconds? |
| 17:11.55 | asterboy | I'll clean up her chin for ya. |
| 17:11.58 | asterboy | :P |
| 17:12.12 | asterboy | tzafir, my distro, my rules...lfs, linuxfromscratch.org |
| 17:12.21 | robin_sz | I'm thinking of running a competition ... |
| 17:12.27 | dlynes | bonfire1: Use the Linux distribution that's comfortable for you...they should all work with Asterisk |
| 17:12.38 | asterboy | tzafrir_home, lfs does not come with a tftp client. |
| 17:12.47 | dlynes | bonfire1: About the only distribution I can think of offhand that won't work with asterisk is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System |
| 17:12.58 | robin_sz | a competition to find a good use for a Grandstream GXP2000 |
| 17:13.00 | tzafrir_home | asterboy, well, if you ever made a Debian package, you know the simple fact that debian/rules |
| 17:13.02 | asterboy | nor does it have inetd/xinetd |
| 17:13.17 | dlynes | tzafrir: Same goes for Slackware :) |
| 17:13.37 | asterboy | lol, debian is great and debian does somewhat resemble lfs. |
| 17:13.43 | tzafrir_home | asterboy, tftpd, not tftp client, right? |
| 17:13.44 | robin_sz | so far the best entries are: door stop and plant pot. |
| 17:13.48 | asterboy | no apt-get though...thank god |
| 17:13.50 | dlynes | oh...lfs is a distribution? |
| 17:13.59 | asterboy | no |
| 17:14.03 | asterboy | not really |
| 17:14.18 | dlynes | Then what's it an acronym for? |
| 17:14.22 | asterboy | hence the slogan, "my distro, my rules" |
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| 17:14.42 | asterboy | LinuxFromScratch |
| 17:14.46 | dlynes | ah |
| 17:14.58 | tzafrir_home | Linux From Scratch (but also Linux File System hirarchy standart) |
| 17:15.12 | asterboy | interesting, not heard that one. |
| 17:15.23 | dlynes | So, it's basically a linux distro based on FreeBSD ports collection system? |
| 17:15.45 | dlynes | asterboy: A number of Linux systems conform to it |
| 17:15.48 | tzafrir_home | asterboy, there is also a nice tftpd called atftpd. |
| 17:16.25 | tzafrir_home | dlynes, no, that's the other LFS (part of the LSB) |
| 17:16.33 | dlynes | ah |
| 17:17.00 | tzafrir_home | dlynes, and no, it is not the Linux distro that is named after a duck |
| 17:17.04 | dlynes | So you're not talking about the one I think it's SuSE conforms to, and that Redhat bastardized? |
| 17:17.19 | dlynes | Mallard? |
| 17:17.24 | dlynes | Oh...Mandrake :) |
| 17:17.37 | dlynes | That's Mandrell, or some damned thing now |
| 17:17.39 | tzafrir_home | Everybody claims to confirm to the LSB |
| 17:17.52 | dlynes | Slackware doesn't |
| 17:18.02 | tzafrir_home | Mandrake is a Magician. And Manrva is no longer named Mandrake |
| 17:18.05 | dlynes | But Slackware's already makes sense...no need to conform :) |
| 17:18.19 | dlynes | Oh yeah...mandriva...that's what it was |
| 17:18.25 | tzafrir_home | dlynes, I meant Gentoo |
| 17:18.37 | dlynes | Oh...Gentoo's a duck? |
| 17:18.55 | JerJer | quack |
| 17:19.01 | dlynes | I've never actually used it, but someone told me it's got the best of both Slackware and Debian |
| 17:19.22 | robin_sz | for soem values of best |
| 17:19.50 | dlynes | heh...gotta love JerJer....he pops in to say one thing, and you never see him again for the rest of the day :) |
| 17:20.08 | robin_sz | #debian is usually full of people whove installed gentoo and it doenst work in some way .. we just send them on to #gentoo |
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| 17:20.39 | dlynes | Yeah...I just haven't gotten around to trying out debian again |
| 17:20.46 | robin_sz | judging by the number of breakages, I would say Gentoo causes far more peoblems than it solves |
| 17:20.54 | dlynes | I've tried it once before many years ago and absolutely hated it...it was way too buggy |
| 17:21.01 | tzafrir_home | dlynes, hmmm... dict.org disagrees with me: http://www.dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=*&Query=gentoo |
| 17:21.06 | dlynes | But that was long before it even made it to version 1 |
| 17:21.49 | dlynes | It's named after the gentoo penguin |
| 17:22.01 | dlynes | Just type "define:gentoo" into the google search box |
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| 17:22.16 | asterboy | I like tight boxes. :P |
| 17:22.22 | asterboy | LFS is as tight as it gets |
| 17:22.26 | dlynes | http://www.google.ca/url?sa=X&start=2&oi=define&q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo |
| 17:22.35 | asterboy | my process list is uber small |
| 17:23.17 | dlynes | so why spoil it by adding asterisk? |
| 17:23.28 | dlynes | Asterisk adds about 15 or 16 processes |
| 17:23.45 | asterboy | huh |
| 17:23.49 | asterboy | you lost me there |
| 17:23.50 | tzafrir_home | 1 process, if you ignore MoH (separate threads, maybe) |
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| 17:24.07 | dlynes | tzafrir: Nah...Asterisk has a number of cloned processes as well |
| 17:24.08 | tier_1 | almost have nost the nanpa code done |
| 17:24.19 | dlynes | tzafrir: Unless of course you're running it on Linux 2.6 |
| 17:24.33 | dlynes | tzafrir: then it becomes one process |
| 17:24.57 | asterboy | I've been supporting the DamnSmallLinux project, I like their philosphy |
| 17:24.58 | dlynes | Linux 2.6 actually has real threads, instead of cloned processes |
| 17:25.03 | tzafrir_home | what changed from 2.4 to 2.6 is that you no longer see separate threads of a process listed in ps (by default) |
| 17:25.10 | asterboy | but no 2.6 cause of the bloat |
| 17:25.19 | ManxPower | many versions of PS show each thread as a seperate process. |
| 17:25.35 | tzafrir_home | dlynes, each thread still has its own PID. Take a look at /proc/PID_OF_ASTERISK/tasks |
| 17:25.40 | ManxPower | it really doesn't have much to do with the kernel version |
| 17:26.04 | dlynes | Yeah, but 2.6 introduced Solaris-style threads |
| 17:26.10 | robin_sz | who cares? is having a small number of processes a good thing in some way? |
| 17:26.12 | dlynes | i.e. both user space and kernel space threads |
| 17:26.26 | asterboy | robin_sz, yep |
| 17:26.30 | robin_sz | why? |
| 17:26.37 | robin_sz | its cpu time that counts |
| 17:26.42 | asterboy | umm....lets see...less points of failure. |
| 17:26.50 | asterboy | less points of security problems |
| 17:26.53 | asterboy | less support |
| 17:26.53 | robin_sz | nah |
| 17:26.55 | tzafrir_home | dlynes, it was one process. In Linux (more so in pre-2.6) threads were basically separate processes who hapened to share the memory space |
| 17:26.55 | robin_sz | sorry |
| 17:26.56 | asterboy | less maintenance |
| 17:27.00 | robin_sz | nah |
| 17:27.01 | asterboy | more scaleable |
| 17:27.05 | asterboy | more upgradable |
| 17:27.10 | asterboy | preformance |
| 17:27.13 | asterboy | on and on |
| 17:27.13 | tzafrir_home | dlynes, fork() in Linux is actually clone() |
| 17:27.14 | dlynes | tzafrir: That's what i said...cloned processes |
| 17:27.22 | robin_sz | sorry, but I dont see any of that |
| 17:27.34 | dlynes | tzafrir: but pthread did clone implicitly |
| 17:27.42 | tzafrir_home | cloned processes are threads |
| 17:27.42 | robin_sz | on big proc, a cluster of seperate ones .. who cares .. |
| 17:27.48 | asterboy | you may not care to see that...but I sure do. |
| 17:28.06 | asterboy | even The Bible says so. |
| 17:28.28 | ManxPower | tzafrir, Except in the USA where cloneing is banned. 8-) |
| 17:28.38 | dlynes | Yeah...as soon as you added Eve into the mix, you had two points of failure |
| 17:28.45 | asterboy | lol |
| 17:28.47 | dlynes | and bam....the snake took advantage of that |
| 17:28.49 | tzafrir_home | that never made it into cyberspace |
| 17:28.59 | asterboy | ~thebible |
| 17:29.01 | jbot | i guess thebible is thebook and thebook is the...nvr mind. |
| 17:30.15 | dlynes | So, basically |
| 17:30.18 | robin_sz | I'll take a bunch of well written seperate threads/processes over on big clumsy uber process any day ... more stable, |
| 17:30.33 | robin_sz | a sub process dies, life carries on |
| 17:30.35 | dlynes | using asterboy's position, the ideal linux system is one with only one process running, and no listening ports |
| 17:31.15 | asterboy | well, no |
| 17:31.58 | robin_sz | apache seems to manage OK with the child process model |
| 17:31.58 | asterboy | only the least amount of processes running necessary. |
| 17:32.13 | tzafrir_home | dlynes, take a look at the output of 'ps auxww' . Do you basically understand what each of of the processes is there for? |
| 17:32.29 | asterboy | I can appreciates what xinetd is doing IF you have many processes to manage. |
| 17:32.40 | tzafrir_home | how to get rid of it if you don't need it, or why you can't get rid of it? |
| 17:32.47 | dlynes | tzafrir: for the most part, yes |
| 17:33.00 | dlynes | tzafrir: Except for all the new kernel processes in 2.6 |
| 17:33.18 | asterboy | That's why HURD looks promising |
| 17:33.32 | PBXtech | anyone running iotum? |
| 17:33.40 | dlynes | tzafrir: Why do you ask? |
| 17:34.20 | robin_sz | ok, so whose going to persuade those clowns at grandstream to open source the GXP code then? |
| 17:34.34 | asterboy | that's why I couldn't use netkit's tftpd. It wants inetd |
| 17:34.38 | dlynes | robin_sz: That's probably never gonna happen |
| 17:34.47 | asterboy | I only have ssh and tftpd to run |
| 17:34.56 | robin_sz | dlynes, seems to me their only hope of gettign it to worl |
| 17:34.57 | tzafrir_home | dlynes, because of the nature of your questions to asterboy . I don't mean to underestimate you at all. Just to give you an idea at his goals. Or at least how I see them. |
| 17:34.58 | robin_sz | work |
| 17:35.01 | dlynes | robin_sz: Look at how much effort it was to get Creative Labs to open soruce their driver |
| 17:35.27 | asterboy | dlynes, tuned me on the best one to use for now, tftp-hpa |
| 17:35.41 | robin_sz | dlynes, unlike Creative, they seem incapable of getting ti to work |
| 17:35.44 | tzafrir_home | robin_sz, what code? |
| 17:35.55 | asterboy | or atftpd looks from tzafrir looks good. |
| 17:36.01 | robin_sz | tzafrir_home, the pxy gxp2000 |
| 17:36.02 | tzafrir_home | (of grandstream, that is) |
| 17:36.07 | robin_sz | poxy |
| 17:36.15 | dlynes | tzafrir: Yeah, I can see his goals, but at the same time, a lot of the processes are needed by some people |
| 17:36.55 | tzafrir_home | robin_sz, what exactly is it? the "mass-config tool"? |
| 17:36.56 | dlynes | tzafrir: kde is absolutely notorious for loading up a bunch of processes that aren't needed by the vast majority of people; same for gnome |
| 17:37.09 | asterboy | yep, and that is the same mentality Microsoft uses...too many services to try and cater to the masses |
| 17:37.31 | robin_sz | tzafrir_home, ?? eh? its a cheap phone. |
| 17:37.50 | *** join/#asterisk sulex (n=sulex@pdpc/supporter/active/sulex) |
| 17:37.50 | asterboy | ya, my clients who are using the gxp are unhappy with it. |
| 17:38.01 | dlynes | asterboy: Yeah, I agree that most of the processes shouldn't be loaded, but I don't believe in going total control crazy and getting rid of almost everything, either |
| 17:38.05 | robin_sz | im fed up with no display on mine |
| 17:38.25 | asterboy | if you don't plan to print, why have lpd? |
| 17:38.31 | robin_sz | the various s/w releases are not getting any closer to fixing it |
| 17:38.44 | dlynes | asterboy: Even FreeBSD which most people think is quite secure has about 15 processes loaded by default |
| 17:38.46 | dlynes | asterboy: I don't |
| 17:39.19 | asterboy | just an example...but ya, I'm a control freek |
| 17:39.22 | *** join/#asterisk mitcheloc (n=mitchelo@70-32-188-167.lmdaca.adelphia.net) |
| 17:39.26 | dlynes | asterboy: I strip out all the cruft I don't need from /etc/rc.d/rc.M, /etc/rc.d/rc.inet2, /etc/rc.d/rc.modules and /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 I don't need the second I install slackware |
| 17:39.51 | dlynes | asterboy: Not to mention /etc/inetd.conf on the odd box where I actually use inetd |
| 17:39.54 | asterboy | I support Slackware...got the T-shirt |
| 17:40.06 | asterboy | even bought the distro. |
| 17:40.07 | dlynes | asterboy: Heh...I've got the subscription :) |
| 17:40.09 | robin_sz | anyway ... I have a real asterisk question ;) |
| 17:40.13 | asterboy | just havn't installed it. |
| 17:40.30 | asterboy | Slackware was around in the SCO Xenix days iirc |
| 17:40.37 | dlynes | Yeah |
| 17:40.43 | dlynes | It was the second linux distribution |
| 17:40.46 | dlynes | Debian was the third |
| 17:40.47 | robin_sz | I have two basic groups of users |
| 17:40.47 | robin_sz | and one multiline outgoing SIP account |
| 17:40.56 | Maxxed | file: sure enuff, you were right, i guess i upgraded the firmware the same time i upgraded the pbx and just forgot ;\ |
| 17:40.59 | asterboy | where did Skunkware fit into this? |
| 17:41.02 | dlynes | and redhat was probably fourth, or maybe stampede |
| 17:41.06 | Maxxed | file: in regards to the exten@ip addr issue |
| 17:41.21 | dlynes | asterboy: No idea |
| 17:41.21 | robin_sz | I set the outgoing CID with fromuser=004122xxxxxxxx for the number of the switchboard, works OK |
| 17:41.35 | dlynes | The first one was Soft Landing System |
| 17:41.37 | robin_sz | but, I want to set different CIDs for the two groups |
| 17:41.47 | dlynes | It's the one that Debian and Slackware were both based on |
| 17:41.51 | robin_sz | as they have their own receptionists |
| 17:41.52 | *** join/#asterisk MoutaPT (n=MoutaPT@85.139.183.36) |
| 17:42.07 | dlynes | SuSE was originally based on Slackware |
| 17:42.07 | robin_sz | any clues how to go about that? |
| 17:42.37 | MoutaPT | Hi all, is there any GUI for my Realtime sip users chhange their account's password? |
| 17:42.58 | Qwell | MoutaPT: No, but you can write one in fairly short order |
| 17:43.00 | asterboy | ah, Skunkware was from Caldera |
| 17:43.09 | dlynes | robin_sz: Use Set(CALLERID(num)=004122xxxxxxxx) on the outgoing channel just before you dial, instead |
| 17:43.17 | *** part/#asterisk BugKham (n=BugKham@125.24.4.70) |
| 17:43.25 | dlynes | asterboy: Then it's nowhere close to the start of the race :) |
| 17:43.32 | MoutaPT | Yes, I'm not very used to php it will take a bit, and if there was something already:) |
| 17:43.32 | dlynes | asterboy: Caldera was a johnny come lately |
| 17:43.40 | MoutaPT | thanks any way Qwell |
| 17:44.18 | robin_sz | dlynes, OK, worht a try and remove the fromuser=0041xxx line in the sip conf? |
| 17:44.37 | asterboy | wow this makes me feel old: |
| 17:44.38 | asterboy | http://williambader.com/museum/dell/xenixhistory.html |
| 17:44.39 | dlynes | robin_sz: Doesn't matter...when you call Set... it'll override it |
| 17:45.04 | *** join/#asterisk pfn (n=pfnguyen@netblock-66-245-252-239.dslextreme.com) |
| 17:45.12 | asterboy | no wonder, Caldera bought Unix from SCO and later SCO name from Tarantella and changed the name to SCO Group |
| 17:45.24 | dlynes | asterboy: The high school grading computers were using Xenix...it was pretty old then....they were only using it because Microsoft gave them a deal they couldn't refuse on it |
| 17:45.33 | MoutaPT | BTW any one could explain me why Asterisk doesn't detect a SIP user agent that is not alive any more? I mean SIP user agent A calls to B and is in Music on hold, try to disconnect sip user agent A from the Lan ( i mean no packets sent to asterisk) , ASterisk won't detect that A is there any more and will keep the call... with MOH |
| 17:46.02 | MoutaPT | call only ends when B hungs |
| 17:46.06 | MoutaPT | the call |
| 17:46.22 | dlynes | asterboy: Not quite; Caldera and SCO merged, then Caldera bought the UNIX trademark from Unisys(?), and then renamed itself to the SCO Group |
| 17:46.30 | MoutaPT | i've tried maxexpirey=120 too |
| 17:46.53 | MoutaPT | Qwell: Any guess? |
| 17:47.03 | dlynes | asterboy: Caldera and SCO were both going downhill at the time; I think they might still be |
| 17:47.35 | dlynes | asterboy: I was at one of their conventions where they announced their merger |
| 17:47.54 | dlynes | Ended up getting some free SCO cd's :) |
| 17:48.28 | dlynes | SCO I think was derived from Xenix at one point, too? |
| 17:48.41 | asterboy | Interesting: http://ronrecord.com/resume.html |
| 17:49.36 | dlynes | Heh...sounds like SCO is gonna go tits up :0 |
| 17:50.07 | dlynes | He sounds like he's gonna jump ship before it capsizes :) |
| 17:50.31 | asterboy | lol |
| 17:50.40 | Maxxed | is there anything special i have to do to get dynamic features to work with the 7960's ? |
| 17:51.03 | Maxxed | ie, while i press #9 during a call, the calle hears monkeys.gsm |
| 17:51.29 | Maxxed | Dynamic Feature Default Current |
| 17:51.29 | Maxxed | --------------- ------- ------- |
| 17:51.29 | Maxxed | testfeature no def #9 |
| 17:51.36 | Maxxed | testfeature => #9,callee,Playback,tt-monkeys ;Play tt-monkeys to |
| 17:51.37 | Maxxed | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.38 | brookshire | hehe.. asterisk should goto the roman numeral numbering system |
| 17:51.47 | asterboy | Interesting that he did some work on Skunkworks...but oh what a bad web page. |
| 17:51.51 | dlynes | Maxxed: If you don't want monkeys.gsm, don't tell it to play that in your dialplan |
| 17:52.10 | Qwell | brookshire: exten => _IXINCIX,II,Wait(3) |
| 17:52.13 | Maxxed | well, just as a test ;) |
| 17:52.14 | drray | call IXII for emergency services |
| 17:52.31 | Qwell | damn |
| 17:52.34 | Qwell | Wait(III) |
| 17:52.39 | Maxxed | exten => 2699,1,Set(DYNAMIC_FEATURES=testfeature) |
| 17:53.28 | dlynes | woah |
| 17:53.37 | Maxxed | i think the 7960 is intercepting the tones before asterisk gets em ;\ |
| 17:53.38 | Maxxed | or somthing |
| 17:53.43 | dlynes | my pearls are just oozing in sesame goo :) |
| 17:53.56 | Maxxed | the calle dont hear the dtmf #9 when i dial it |
| 17:55.26 | asterboy | ah |
| 17:55.39 | asterboy | found skunkware history by Ronald: ftp://ftp2.sco.com/pub/skunkware/intro/index.html |
| 17:56.46 | BladeRunner05 | hola |
| 17:57.13 | Maxxed | um, so i guess the 7960 isnt intercepting the dtmf tones |
| 17:57.26 | Maxxed | well, voicemail works, so of course it isnt |
| 17:57.33 | Maxxed | erum.. |
| 17:57.45 | Maxxed | oh! |
| 17:57.50 | ManxPower | Maxxed, What is your DIAL line? |
| 17:57.51 | Maxxed | i have to restart asterisk |
| 17:57.54 | Maxxed | pssh.. |
| 17:58.03 | Maxxed | nah, i think i got it ManxPower |
| 17:58.08 | ManxPower | you don't have to restrt asterisk for that. |
| 17:58.11 | ManxPower | you can do a reload just fine. |
| 17:58.13 | drray | reload |
| 17:58.22 | asterboy | fascinating: ftp://ftp2.sco.com/pub/skunkware/intro/mgp00010.html |
| 17:58.57 | Maxxed | for a new think in the features.conf? |
| 17:59.08 | ManxPower | Maxxed, correct. |
| 17:59.15 | ManxPower | Maxxed, you ARE using 1.2.x, right? |
| 17:59.19 | Maxxed | Also you'll need to 'restart' Asterisk after modifying features.conf - a simple 'reload' won't do. |
| 17:59.20 | Maxxed | yep |
| 17:59.32 | ManxPower | Maxxed, then that is a BUG. |
| 17:59.49 | ManxPower | You should be able to do almost any change and apply it with a simple reload. |
| 18:00.19 | Maxxed | ah |
| 18:00.19 | Maxxed | ok |
| 18:00.26 | Maxxed | well, the restart still didnt work ;\ |
| 18:00.30 | Maxxed | erum |
| 18:00.45 | Maxxed | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.45 | Maxxed | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.09 | ManxPower | Maxxed, I'm STILL waiting for a copy of your Dial line. |
| 18:01.09 | Maxxed | exten => 2699,1,Set(DYNAMIC_FEATURES=testfeature) |
| 18:01.09 | Maxxed | exten => 2699,2,SetCIDName(Calling Houston) |
| 18:01.09 | Maxxed | exten => 2699,3,Dial,SIP/2699|20 |
| 18:01.09 | Maxxed | exten => 2699,4,Voicemail,u2699@houston |
| 18:01.09 | Maxxed | exten => 2699,104,Voicemail,b2699@houston |
| 18:01.16 | Maxxed | dial line ? |
| 18:01.25 | ManxPower | MaxusSE, um, you ae not enabling features on your dial line |
| 18:01.36 | salviadud | pastebin |
| 18:02.03 | Corydon76-home | Oh, hell, people are still using SetCIDName ? |
| 18:02.11 | Maxxed | haha |
| 18:02.16 | Maxxed | yeah i havent changed it all over yet |
| 18:02.24 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: I say we remove it from 1.4 :p |
| 18:02.31 | drray | 1.6 |
| 18:02.38 | drray | we need time to update the wiki |
| 18:02.46 | Maxxed | ManxPower: dial line ? i dont quite follow |
| 18:02.47 | Qwell | or, let's infect the 1.2 branch, and remove it from 1.2.8 :p |
| 18:02.54 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: I say it's already removed from 1.4 |
| 18:02.58 | Qwell | ahh |
| 18:03.18 | Corydon76-home | 1.2 is the version where people learn to move over |
| 18:04.31 | ManxPower | BTW, where IS dynamic features documented |
| 18:04.41 | Qwell | features.conf |
| 18:04.58 | Math` | 1.4 is... trunk? |
| 18:05.05 | Math` | or is there a dev branch |
| 18:05.06 | Qwell | Math`: eventually |
| 18:05.36 | ManxPower | Qwell, no, DYNAMIC_FEATURES is NOT documented in features.conf. Setting the DTMF sequences is, there's no info on how to USE them. |
| 18:05.45 | *** join/#asterisk zeppelin_ (n=zeppelin@BrTC-S3-1-6-paemt301.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 18:06.09 | Qwell | The value of DYNAMIC_FEATURES should be the names of the features |
| 18:06.09 | Qwell | ; to allow the channel to use separated by '#'. For example: |
| 18:06.34 | ManxPower | Qwell, it's documented in README.variables |
| 18:07.23 | Maxxed | yeah, i got that much |
| 18:09.16 | robin_sz | dlynes: that doesnt seem to work ... |
| 18:09.23 | Maxxed | i changed the # to a * |
| 18:09.25 | Maxxed | testfeature => *9,callee,Playback,tt-monkeys |
| 18:09.39 | Maxxed | exten => 2699,1,Set(DYNAMIC_FEATURES=testfeature) |
| 18:09.51 | robin_sz | dlynes, neither Set(CALLERID(name)= ... ) or (num)= ... seem to work . |
| 18:09.52 | Maxxed | restarted asterisk just for gigles |
| 18:10.05 | Maxxed | and still no dice ;\ |
| 18:10.25 | dlynes | robin_sz: Did you remove the callerid= line in your sip.conf? |
| 18:10.32 | robin_sz | dlynes, nope |
| 18:10.41 | robin_sz | and anyway .. I dont have one |
| 18:10.49 | robin_sz | fromuser= |
| 18:10.50 | dlynes | robin_sz: Also, are you setting the Set(CALLERID(...)=...) just before the dial? |
| 18:10.56 | robin_sz | yes |
| 18:11.13 | dlynes | robin_sz: Does your outgoing channel support caller id? |
| 18:11.23 | dlynes | erm |
| 18:11.30 | dlynes | I mean does it support setting of the caller id? |
| 18:11.39 | robin_sz | dlynes, it tales whatever I put in fromuser= in the sip.conf .. I know that |
| 18:12.04 | *** join/#asterisk lionelp (n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 18:14.18 | Maxxed | erum.. |
| 18:14.29 | Maxxed | so i need to change my dial string |
| 18:14.59 | Maxxed | Dial(SIP/2699|20,,wW or uh huh ? |
| 18:15.09 | robin_sz | dlynes, wait .. i'll try CALLERID(number) |
| 18:15.16 | *** join/#asterisk ReD-MaN (i=redman@dhcp-0-2-b3-9a-4a-5b.cpe.quickclic.net) |
| 18:15.48 | Maxxed | add some option or somthineruther |
| 18:16.37 | DoktorGreg | would it be lame to call my asterisk manager Yaam |
| 18:17.00 | Qwell | DoktorGreg: very |
| 18:17.21 | DoktorGreg | Thought so |
| 18:17.26 | DoktorGreg | just checking |
| 18:21.04 | Maxxed | damn.. |
| 18:21.52 | asterboy | damn small linux |
| 18:25.41 | dlynes | robin_sz: Yeah...I have no idea then...I don't even recall what fromuser= does...I've never used it |
| 18:26.13 | asterboy | dylnes, do you know what tftp-hpa's default root directory is? |
| 18:26.30 | Qwell | asterboy: /tftproot/ |
| 18:26.39 | asterboy | ah, thanks Qwell |
| 18:26.40 | Qwell | check /var/log/messages, it should say in there |
| 18:26.41 | mitcheloc | DSL? i like that, it makes my internet go fast |
| 18:27.16 | asterboy | mitcheloc, that distro boots up so fast into a gui |
| 18:27.28 | asterboy | firefox is a bit pokey though |
| 18:27.40 | asterboy | dillo is fast but pages look hopless in it. |
| 18:28.35 | asterboy | I'm starting to sell 400MHz systems with DamnSmall as a replacement where people can't run Windows because they keep pressing "punch the monkey" adds |
| 18:28.52 | asterboy | s/adds/ads |
| 18:29.32 | asterboy | there is some learning curve, but they run without having to use spyware and virus TSRs |
| 18:29.50 | mitcheloc | why would someone buy a 400MHZ system....? |
| 18:30.03 | asterboy | cause they can't afford a GHz system |
| 18:30.25 | mitcheloc | bah |
| 18:30.28 | asterboy | I sell them for $200 |
| 18:30.38 | wunderkin | i guess this is in canada |
| 18:30.39 | mitcheloc | your time is worth more then wasting it on a 400mhz computer |
| 18:30.58 | Maxxed | damn |
| 18:30.58 | asterboy | ya but I like to conserve the old computers |
| 18:31.00 | Maxxed | ok so im lost |
| 18:31.09 | Maxxed | i cant get the features.conf to work for me |
| 18:31.15 | Maxxed | im missin somthing silly im sure |
| 18:31.26 | asterboy | Maxxed are you reloading |
| 18:31.38 | Maxxed | asterboy yep |
| 18:32.10 | Maxxed | *CLI> show features ; shows the testfeature |
| 18:32.28 | Maxxed | but dialing 7 while in a call (what i have it set as now) does nothing |
| 18:32.44 | asterboy | dial plan? |
| 18:32.51 | asterboy | digit map, if Polycom |
| 18:32.56 | Maxxed | the callee dont hear the dtmf tone, which is cool, but what isnt cool is the fact the feature wont work! |
| 18:32.56 | Maxxed | heh |
| 18:33.19 | Maxxed | ; Houston Dee |
| 18:33.19 | Maxxed | exten => 2699,1,Set(DYNAMIC_FEATURES=testfeature) |
| 18:33.19 | Maxxed | exten => 2699,2,SetCIDName(Calling Houston) |
| 18:33.19 | Maxxed | exten => 2699,3,Dial,SIP/2699|20 |
| 18:33.19 | Maxxed | exten => 2699,4,Voicemail,u2699@houston |
| 18:33.20 | asterboy | sounds like the digit is not being sent to * |
| 18:33.39 | Maxxed | *7 instead of just 7 ? |
| 18:33.53 | asterboy | no I meant asterisk |
| 18:33.57 | asterboy | as in the server |
| 18:33.58 | Maxxed | ah |
| 18:34.04 | Maxxed | well voicemail works? |
| 18:34.08 | Maxxed | and that works off digits |
| 18:34.15 | Maxxed | btw, im using 7960's |
| 18:34.26 | Qwell | Maxxed: Why are you using inconsistent parameters? |
| 18:34.30 | Qwell | Set() vs Dial, |
| 18:34.30 | asterboy | ya, cause your dial plan allows for it. |
| 18:34.54 | Maxxed | Qwell: i dont follow ? |
| 18:34.58 | Maxxed | set vs dial? |
| 18:35.00 | Qwell | Dial() |
| 18:35.02 | Qwell | vs Dial, |
| 18:35.05 | Maxxed | ok |
| 18:35.11 | Maxxed | sok/oh |
| 18:35.22 | Maxxed | bleh, i ment oh ;p |
| 18:35.40 | Maxxed | i dont no, this conf is all hacked up from being upgraded and all that jazz |
| 18:41.07 | *** join/#asterisk robust (n=robust@c-567472d5.01-167-70697410.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 18:41.19 | asterboy | so the GXP-2000 has to have the ringtones downloaded from tftp...the default ring is so rediculous...sounds like your making a call. |
| 18:42.22 | robin_sz | you have one that rings? |
| 18:42.24 | robin_sz | coo. |
| 18:42.27 | robin_sz | lucky you |
| 18:42.38 | robin_sz | mine just sits there and looks blank |
| 18:42.55 | asterboy | lol...that's probably the best working GXP out there. |
| 18:43.12 | *** join/#asterisk techie (n=gus@antibala.net) |
| 18:43.37 | robin_sz | Ok, so ... I have an outgoing context that has all the logic for routing over sip or whatever |
| 18:43.59 | robin_sz | how can I call Set() before entering that context |
| 18:44.36 | robin_sz | exten=>0.,1,Set() |
| 18:44.58 | Qwell | Why not just renumber your priorities? |
| 18:45.28 | robin_sz | nah, then Id have to maintain two sets of that context |
| 18:45.49 | robin_sz | one with set(CALLLERID(number)=1234) for group 1 |
| 18:45.58 | robin_sz | one with set(CALLLERID(number)=4567) for group 2 |
| 18:46.19 | robin_sz | I havce two groups of users using the same outgoing logic to call out |
| 18:46.33 | robin_sz | but I want different CIDs depoending on the group |
| 18:47.41 | robin_sz | I suppose I could have outgoing1 context with one CID set as prirotiy 1 |
| 18:47.51 | robin_sz | and outgoing2 with another CID |
| 18:48.14 | robin_sz | but then Id have to rememebr to change the logic in both contexts as stuff chenged for outgoing routing |
| 18:48.36 | Hmmhesays | what a beautiful day |
| 18:48.46 | Maxxed | um.. |
| 18:48.47 | Maxxed | ok |
| 18:48.59 | Maxxed | so if i dial an ext from the phone to another ext on the phone |
| 18:49.06 | Maxxed | *7, the testfeature works |
| 18:49.21 | Maxxed | but if i dial an ext on another phone, it dont work |
| 18:49.54 | Maxxed | and i have the global set , DYNAMIC_FEATURES=>testfeature |
| 18:50.27 | Maxxed | tones arent geting fwd'ed or somthing |
| 18:51.26 | *** join/#asterisk CoffeeIV (i=rgr@cpe-70-112-100-20.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 18:51.46 | CoffeeIV | how can I make asterisk wait two rings before picking up so it will get the caller id ? |
| 18:52.02 | Qwell | CoffeeIV: Wait(2) before you do anything |
| 18:52.06 | robin_sz | Qwell, ahh, got it ... |
| 18:52.24 | CoffeeIV | Qwell: sometimes the simple way is actually the right way . . . |
| 18:52.49 | robin_sz | so in the conetxt for each group have exten=>_0.,1,Set(CALLERID( etc |
| 18:53.21 | robin_sz | Qwell, and in the outgoing logic that is included in the context, start the exten priorities from 2 |
| 18:53.51 | *** join/#asterisk ingenius (n=syntax@200.80.233.2) |
| 18:53.54 | robin_sz | riiiiight ... |
| 18:54.39 | JerJer | doens't zap wait until CID is dealt with before starting the pbx ? |
| 18:54.46 | Qwell | JerJer: doesn't seem to |
| 18:55.04 | robin_sz | OK, that seems to work |
| 18:55.10 | Qwell | second time I've seen that question in as many days |
| 18:55.32 | robin_sz | just need to be sure to set an priority 1 exten before including that logic |
| 18:55.35 | JerJer | i wonder if something broke then - my old ass home box doesn't need any wait |
| 18:55.47 | Qwell | JerJer: That's a possibility |
| 18:55.52 | JerJer | but that's cvs code from like pre-1.2 |
| 18:56.16 | robin_sz | sigh ... now if only fixing my fscking GXP2000 was so easy :( |
| 18:56.26 | Qwell | robin_sz: drop it from a height |
| 18:56.37 | robin_sz | nah, its got a devil in it |
| 18:56.42 | robin_sz | justmake him mad |
| 18:57.22 | robin_sz | mines one of the poxy bags of shite that has the "bad" mac numbers, the GUI doesnt work with the beta firmware |
| 18:57.51 | robin_sz | phoen boots, gui goes off to la-la land |
| 18:58.12 | robin_sz | and releases of code seem to be once every other month |
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| 19:05.21 | MoutaPT | BTW any one could explain me why Asterisk doesn't detect a SIP user agent that is not alive any more? I mean SIP user agent A calls to B and is in Music on hold, try to disconnect sip user agent A from the Lan ( i mean no packets sent to asterisk) , ASterisk won't detect that A is there any more and will keep the call... with MOH the call only ends when B hungs |
| 19:06.55 | MoutaPT | any guess |
| 19:07.33 | tainted- | MoutaPT actually i've had similar issues with bridged calls just like you said |
| 19:08.05 | MoutaPT | i don't know if could be a bug in asterisk |
| 19:08.17 | MoutaPT | i don't consider my self a Guru ... |
| 19:08.30 | MoutaPT | would like to hear from experienced users here |
| 19:08.42 | MoutaPT | any one could try this |
| 19:08.51 | MoutaPT | just unplug lan cable from sipphone |
| 19:09.07 | MoutaPT | watch the asterisk CLI will keep the call running |
| 19:09.56 | MoutaPT | X-Rob: any guess? |
| 19:10.02 | MoutaPT | brb ... dinner |
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| 19:17.05 | *** join/#asterisk Dorphalsig (n=chiardon@200.71.58.39) |
| 19:17.09 | Dorphalsig | Hi |
| 19:17.12 | Dorphalsig | Me again |
| 19:17.13 | Dorphalsig | =) |
| 19:17.32 | Dorphalsig | I have my telco here and they just discovered they're sending me a PCM31 coding |
| 19:20.23 | Maxxed | ok.. well i got the features.conf workin now |
| 19:20.47 | Maxxed | no idea what i though ;p |
| 19:21.56 | Dorphalsig | Is there any patch to add support for this? |
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| 19:35.51 | asterboy | on the GXP-2000 it looks like the only way to see received history is to hit a line first and then the back arrow key. |
| 19:35.59 | asterboy | dumb, real fucking dumb |
| 19:36.33 | asterboy | firmware 1.0.1.2 |
| 19:36.40 | asterboy | hope this is fixed in latest firmware |
| 19:38.32 | asterboy | Followed the instructions here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/GXP-2000#CustomRingTones |
| 19:38.40 | asterboy | for custom ring tone downloads. |
| 19:38.55 | asterboy | must be missing something cause there seems to be no affect. |
| 19:39.13 | asterboy | verified my tftp server is running and downloading. |
| 19:39.29 | asterboy | named the files ring1,ring2,ring3 |
| 19:39.47 | asterboy | also copies in ring1.bin,ring2.bin,ring3.bin |
| 19:39.49 | asterboy | but no go |
| 19:46.34 | terrapen | the more i read about other phones, the more i love my polycoms :) |
| 19:49.38 | Dorphalsig | Hello. I'm trying to connect * to a PCM-31 E1 |
| 19:50.06 | Dorphalsig | Yet Zaptel only supports CAS and CCS |
| 19:50.47 | Qwell | Dorphalsig: Sounds like a problem to me |
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| 19:52.28 | shido6 | Dorphalsig, russia? |
| 19:56.02 | *** part/#asterisk mitcheloc (n=mitchelo@70-32-188-167.lmdaca.adelphia.net) |
| 19:56.26 | Dorphalsig | Qwell, --> Colombia |
| 19:56.36 | Dorphalsig | shido6 --> Colombia |
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| 20:03.41 | ingenius | Dorphalsig, are you living in colombia ? |
| 20:05.37 | Dorphalsig | yeah |
| 20:05.39 | Dorphalsig | why? |
| 20:07.38 | ingenius | im living in argentina :P |
| 20:08.37 | tainted- | i'm living la vida loca |
| 20:08.56 | websae | tainted- me too |
| 20:09.07 | websae | tainted- are you my neighbor? |
| 20:09.19 | tainted- | i could be |
| 20:09.46 | websae | tainted- are you that guy out there mowing his grass at 5:00 in the morning? |
| 20:10.05 | ingenius | tainted-, jajajja |
| 20:10.12 | tainted- | i don't know what u've heard, but i just do landscaping |
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| 20:10.49 | websae | tainted- your landscaping is awfully loud |
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| 20:11.29 | tainted- | hey u get what u pay for |
| 20:12.23 | websae | yeah i don't really like my house, my bathroom and kitchen are the same, time to move |
| 20:12.40 | tainted- | where's that terr_ guy |
| 20:12.44 | tainted- | he's the best |
| 20:12.46 | robin_sz | 427 sidoiler ford, oversize blower, nitrous for theheavy stuff |
| 20:12.51 | tainted- | i wish i could get him to mow my lawn |
| 20:13.03 | websae | terr_ , oh what a character |
| 20:13.05 | tainted- | lol nitrous |
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| 20:13.30 | websae | his intentions are good, his vision is a bit unrealistic |
| 20:13.50 | robin_sz | I could never decide what was best .. the 427 ford blocks or the small block chevy V8s |
| 20:15.37 | robin_sz | as they say, "there aint no replacement for displacement" ;) |
| 20:16.01 | robin_sz | the 427 is what, 7.2 litres? |
| 20:16.27 | Dorphalsig | Hello. I'm trying to connect * to a PCM-31 E1. Yet Zaptel only supports CAS and CCS. Anybody knows what can be done? |
| 20:16.51 | Qwell | Dorphalsig: Change your E1 |
| 20:17.26 | Dorphalsig | Qwell --> Yeah, Why dont I go on and do some plastic surgery and change my sex as well ? |
| 20:17.37 | distortion | hahaha |
| 20:17.48 | Qwell | Dorphalsig: Then write code to "fix" zaptel. |
| 20:18.01 | Qwell | Those are your only two options. The first is actually doable |
| 20:18.20 | Dorphalsig | Qwell --> Any tips? |
| 20:18.36 | Qwell | yes, tell the idiot from the telco to change it to something else |
| 20:19.59 | Dorphalsig | Qwell, perhaps you could enlighten me with some argument I could use against the telco. Perhaps even in a trial :P |
| 20:20.14 | Qwell | "It doesn't work with my hardware. Change it." |
| 20:20.28 | Qwell | "or I go to a telco who will" |
| 20:22.30 | Dorphalsig | Yeah ... Already used that. I was trying to find something a bit more 'technical' ... |
| 20:22.38 | luke-jr_ | Qwell: "It (Digium hardware) doesn't work with my E1. Fix it or I will find a hardware vendor whos hardware does"? |
| 20:23.09 | luke-jr_ | that argument can be played on both ends ;) |
| 20:24.04 | oelewapperke | is there a built-in app in asterisk that can do the following : |
| 20:24.14 | oelewapperke | I dial someone and they're in-use |
| 20:24.34 | oelewapperke | I want asterisk to dial me back and connect them to me immediately when they go on-hook again |
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| 20:24.51 | luke-jr_ | oelewapperke: that'd require cooperation from their end |
| 20:25.05 | oelewapperke | I control the asterisk they register to |
| 20:25.09 | tier_1 | http://pastebin.ca/50584 |
| 20:25.11 | oelewapperke | the only one they can call with |
| 20:25.24 | luke-jr_ | they could IP-dial |
| 20:25.27 | Dorphalsig | luke-jr_, --> Good point there. |
| 20:25.28 | distortion | sounds a little bill collector-ish to me |
| 20:27.43 | tier_1 | the pastebin is mapped nanpa codes |
| 20:28.06 | bonfire1 | where can I byu a decent 2xfxo + 2xFXS card online? The company here offered me a Digium 100XP card in 49$!!!! |
| 20:28.27 | Qwell | bonfire1: digium.com |
| 20:28.45 | luke-jr_ | bonfire1: 2 FXO + 2 FXS for $49 looks like a good deal |
| 20:29.34 | file | an X100P is only an FXO port |
| 20:29.58 | luke-jr_ | he said 100XP-- but I'm not familiar w/ part #s |
| 20:31.00 | dlynes | x100p is fxo with a fax/phone pass through port |
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| 20:33.56 | brookshire | digium doesn't make a 100xp |
| 20:34.19 | dlynes | They don't make an x100p anymore, either :) |
| 20:34.31 | brookshire | no they don't! :) |
| 20:34.37 | brookshire | but there are still ones out there |
| 20:34.44 | dlynes | yep |
| 20:34.54 | dlynes | Not that there aren't plenty of clones out there, too, though |
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| 20:44.20 | robin_sz | the X100p is just a modem really |
| 20:46.27 | robin_sz | ISTR there is is some standard modem card you can get where its identifies as a intel winmiodem of some flavour, you lift a resistor and it identifies itsefl as a digium card or something |
| 20:46.53 | dlynes | robin_sz: or a motorola modem |
| 20:47.05 | dlynes | robin_sz: one's an x100p, the other is an x101p |
| 20:47.05 | robin_sz | yeah, somehting like that |
| 20:47.50 | dlynes | you know what would be wicked awesome? |
| 20:47.59 | websae | what? |
| 20:48.07 | dlynes | if I could take out a resistor on my rtl8139 and it would turn into a t1 card |
| 20:48.36 | eKo1 | that sounds retarded |
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| 20:49.17 | dlynes | no more retarded than taking out a resistor and turning a modem into an x100p |
| 20:49.54 | dlynes | but still |
| 20:50.16 | dlynes | I don't understand if the sipuras are commodity products why the prices are still so high |
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| 20:51.20 | eKo1 | Because they're owned by Ci$co |
| 20:52.18 | dlynes | only legally and distribution channel-wise |
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| 20:52.26 | dlynes | tech support is still separate |
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| 20:53.33 | Sedorox | the motorola's dont' work well.. since you need hacked zaptel drivers |
| 20:53.55 | file | the motorola was the original x100p |
| 20:53.56 | dlynes | if the drivers are hacked |
| 20:54.11 | dlynes | is it better quality sound than the x100p clones? |
| 20:55.21 | Sedorox | dlynes: I don't know.. I just know a lot of people complaining about it.. because they use stock zaptel.. and not the ones included on the disk they get with the card off ebay... |
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| 20:55.27 | dlynes | Sedorox: ah...yeah...the x100p's that you get from x100p.com work straight out of the box |
| 20:55.56 | Sedorox | yea.. those are the intel ones |
| 20:55.59 | Sedorox | which I have.. and works fine :p |
| 20:56.38 | dlynes | I figured it was detected as a real x100p, and not a clone, and the price was a little bit higher, so I figured it'd work better |
| 20:57.10 | dlynes | But, someone else on here the other day was saying these cheaper ones from norway worked fine, too |
| 20:57.17 | dlynes | So I'll try some of those next |
| 20:57.58 | Sedorox | yea.. the only issue I had at one point was a irq conflict.. making it act up.. but switched slots.. and it was fine |
| 20:58.17 | dlynes | yeah..not an option for most of our boxes |
| 20:58.22 | dlynes | they only have one pci slot :) |
| 20:59.40 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 20:59.43 | dlynes | some guy that used to work for us thought the smaller is better philosophy was a good thing |
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| 20:59.55 | Sedorox | can be incertain instances |
| 21:00.00 | dlynes | Yeah, but not most |
| 21:00.11 | dlynes | Most don't care how big the phone system is, as long as it works |
| 21:00.20 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 21:00.26 | Sedorox | my one is a 1u server in colo... |
| 21:00.30 | Sedorox | the other is a normal tower here... |
| 21:00.33 | MoutaPT | BTW any one could explain me why Asterisk doesn't detect a SIP user agent that is not alive any more? I mean SIP user agent A calls to B and is in Music on hold, try to disconnect sip user agent A from the Lan ( i mean no packets sent to asterisk) , ASterisk won't detect that A is there any more and will keep the call... with MOH the call only ends when B hungs |
| 21:00.35 | dlynes | Mitel is living proof of that |
| 21:00.42 | dlynes | Mitel pbxes are quite large |
| 21:00.46 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 21:01.47 | dlynes | MoutaPT: Let's see if I understand you |
| 21:02.15 | MoutaPT | ok |
| 21:02.22 | dlynes | MoutaPT: User A calls user B; User B puts User A on hold; User A hangs up while on music-on-hold; Asterisk doesn't notify User B that User A has hung up? |
| 21:02.34 | MoutaPT | no |
| 21:02.54 | eKo1 | User A doesn't hang up. User A is disconnected from the network. |
| 21:02.55 | dlynes | Ok, I didn't understand what the disconnecting sip user agent A from the lan was all about |
| 21:02.59 | MoutaPT | simply just disconnect Lan cable of your hardsipphone |
| 21:03.10 | MoutaPT | asterisk doesn't notice that A isn't there any more |
| 21:03.27 | MoutaPT | imagine a wireless sip phone that is out of batery |
| 21:03.35 | MoutaPT | or simply a problem in your lan |
| 21:03.36 | dlynes | MoutaPT: And it won't know until the next qualify |
| 21:03.50 | eKo1 | MoutaPT: Keep in mind that the SIP stack on * is not all it is cracked up to be. |
| 21:04.15 | dlynes | MoutaPT: Once Asterisk is expecting the next qualify though, it'll give up on that caller |
| 21:04.20 | MoutaPT | qualify for all my users (around 100) won't overload my network ? |
| 21:04.59 | dlynes | How big of a qualify are you planning to give? |
| 21:05.04 | MoutaPT | i've tried maxexpirey=120 |
| 21:05.08 | MoutaPT | and it didn't solve |
| 21:05.14 | MoutaPT | should solve? |
| 21:05.16 | dlynes | qualify=300? |
| 21:05.31 | MoutaPT | currently i don't have qualify... |
| 21:05.50 | MoutaPT | maxexpirey=120 shouldn't force asterisk to drop the call |
| 21:05.59 | MoutaPT | if the sip user didn't reregistry? |
| 21:06.12 | dlynes | maxexpiry is for the subscription or the registration, isn't it? |
| 21:06.17 | MoutaPT | yes |
| 21:06.23 | dlynes | that won't affect a call in progress I don't think |
| 21:06.35 | MoutaPT | qualify should solve this? |
| 21:06.41 | dlynes | only to show the status of an idle phone |
| 21:06.48 | MoutaPT | i will test it now |
| 21:06.54 | dlynes | It might |
| 21:07.02 | dlynes | I haven't actually tried disconnecting a cable |
| 21:07.16 | MoutaPT | i've posted in mailing list and doesn't seem to solve |
| 21:07.22 | MoutaPT | but i didn't try |
| 21:07.25 | dlynes | I use qualify to allow me to mitigate problems with firewalls |
| 21:07.36 | dlynes | Where the firewall times out the connection, and closes the port mapping |
| 21:07.44 | MoutaPT | oh yes? |
| 21:07.49 | dlynes | qualify=300 keeps it open |
| 21:07.51 | MoutaPT | i was getting problems also |
| 21:07.55 | MoutaPT | with firewall |
| 21:08.13 | dlynes | Well, the thing is with firewalls, if you're not using port mappings |
| 21:08.20 | dlynes | And your phone calls out |
| 21:08.27 | dlynes | And you have qualify=300 on the asterisk side |
| 21:08.52 | dlynes | Asterisk will send a qualify packet to the phone every 300s(?) to keep that hole open on the firewall |
| 21:09.07 | dlynes | If you want to cover yourself on both side |
| 21:09.19 | dlynes | Some sip clients also have the ability to specify a nat timeout |
| 21:09.30 | dlynes | That's pretty much the same setting, but on the client side |
| 21:09.55 | dlynes | It'll work on most firewalls/routers without the need to set up port mappings |
| 21:10.26 | dlynes | But some firewalls/routers you will still inevitably need to set up port mappings - sip was not designed to cope well with firewalls |
| 21:11.12 | MoutaPT | thanks |
| 21:11.28 | dlynes | Other firewalls/routers, it's not practical to use sip behind...it's just way too much hassle, and too much political football involved |
| 21:11.42 | MoutaPT | i'm just thinking if qualify=300 could overload my network... |
| 21:11.49 | MoutaPT | i don't have vlan to voip |
| 21:11.50 | robin_sz | OK, so put me out of my misery ... does anyone have a later version of the GXP2000 firmware than the one on the wiki .. help me here, the phoen is borked, no beta version could make it any worse ... Ill try anyhting |
| 21:12.03 | robin_sz | OK, so put me out of my misery ... does anyone have a later version of the GXP2000 firmware than the one on the wiki .. help me here, the phoen is borked, no beta version could make it any worse ... Ill try anyhting |
| 21:12.08 | dlynes | Nah, not really...it depends on how many phones you need to set that up for, mouta |
| 21:13.10 | dlynes | I've got 43 peers all set up using that method, without any problems on the one server |
| 21:13.33 | dlynes | Every single one of them is behind a firewall |
| 21:15.08 | dlynes | If you're using Asterisk 1.2.7.1, you'll get messages like the following every time a client requalifies: |
| 21:15.22 | dlynes | Apr 22 14:07:50 NOTICE[13449]: chan_sip.c:9714 handle_response_peerpoke: Peer '1234567890' is now REACHABLE! (42ms / 300ms) |
| 21:15.48 | dlynes | Or if it's lagged, you'll see: |
| 21:16.04 | dlynes | Apr 22 14:07:40 NOTICE[13449]: chan_sip.c:9720 handle_response_peerpoke: Peer '1234567890' is now TOO LAGGED! (1023ms / 300ms) |
| 21:16.29 | dlynes | And if it can't see it anymore, you'll get the same thing, but it'll say is now unreachable |
| 21:18.22 | dlynes | You'll probably see a few of those unreachables once in a while, if you have any customers on cable internet |
| 21:20.43 | dlynes | robin_sz: So what you're saying then is stay well away from the GXP-2000? |
| 21:21.18 | DoktorGreg | hey can i make a totally unreasonable request of the devs? |
| 21:22.04 | robin_sz | dlynes, I think newer ones are OK, but mine is older and the new firmware does not work with it |
| 21:22.15 | DoktorGreg | Anyhow, in future versions of the manager api, why not just make the whole thing xml'ish? |
| 21:22.40 | dlynes | what's it like now? |
| 21:22.48 | DoktorGreg | ini file |
| 21:22.59 | dlynes | ah...ini file's better then |
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| 21:23.03 | dlynes | less processing |
| 21:23.11 | dlynes | why put more load on the telephony server? |
| 21:23.40 | dlynes | xml's probably better for the client side, but not the server side |
| 21:23.50 | DoktorGreg | they dont need a full blown xml parser |
| 21:24.04 | DoktorGreg | just make it xml rpc compliant |
| 21:24.34 | DoktorGreg | maybe i fork it |
| 21:24.49 | dlynes | why not just write a module to do that? |
| 21:25.04 | dlynes | that way people that want the old way of doing it can do it that way |
| 21:25.05 | DoktorGreg | i wouldnt know where to start:) |
| 21:25.13 | dlynes | and people that want the xml way can do it that way? |
| 21:25.15 | DoktorGreg | oh wait i see |
| 21:25.28 | DoktorGreg | make a minimal https server |
| 21:25.33 | eKo1 | XML is overrated |
| 21:25.43 | DoktorGreg | loopback to the manager api |
| 21:25.51 | Qwell | Why not just use astmanproxy? |
| 21:26.01 | DoktorGreg | whats astmanproxy? |
| 21:26.08 | Qwell | google it |
| 21:27.04 | DoktorGreg | oh there you go! |
| 21:27.07 | DoktorGreg | snap! |
| 21:27.09 | dlynes | xml creates a lot of jobs...I think that's probably the main reason it was created, eKo1 =) |
| 21:27.12 | DoktorGreg | thanks Quell |
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| 21:27.25 | eKo1 | dlynes: nonsense |
| 21:27.41 | DoktorGreg | xml rocks! |
| 21:27.50 | eKo1 | xml was backed by m$ and that is the only reason it became mainstream |
| 21:27.57 | asterboy | ~echo |
| 21:27.58 | jbot | i heard echo is normal and a natural part of Voice over IP. What? You don't like it? Nah. It's great! You really don't want it? Well, read http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-February/088794.html then. echo, echo ..echo... cho..o... .. It also helps ADHD people keep track of their conversations. It's all good! |
| 21:28.02 | dlynes | Well, you've gotta hire all those engineers to help decode all the acronyms in j2ee :) |
| 21:28.33 | asterboy | hmmm...broken link |
| 21:28.35 | asterboy | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-February/088794.html |
| 21:28.43 | DoktorGreg | you guys have just never used a good xml parser thats all |
| 21:29.01 | dlynes | DoktorGreg: Xerces2? |
| 21:29.18 | dlynes | DoktorGreg: Jdk 1.4+? |
| 21:29.34 | HotaruT | hi, I want to connect asterisk to an hipath 4000 with SIP, but the later is sending DTMF as: "rtp.c:564 ast_rtp_read: Unknown RTP codec 99 received" .. any ideas how to work around this? |
| 21:30.46 | dlynes | Apr 22 09:45:02 fugitivo if anyone is interested, i've succesfully connected asterisk with a siemens hipath 3500 using qsig |
| 21:31.02 | dlynes | That might help you, HotaruT |
| 21:31.03 | DoktorGreg | ouch xerces2 looks really hard to use |
| 21:31.05 | asterboy | anyone an expert on echo with SIP phones ---> * ----> ZAP |
| 21:31.08 | asterboy | ??? |
| 21:31.22 | asterboy | done all I can do for reading. |
| 21:31.33 | dlynes | asterboy: It'd either be your speaker phones, or your zaptel channel, not the sip channel |
| 21:31.37 | asterboy | have a couple of tricks to try like |
| 21:31.54 | asterboy | the gxp-2000? |
| 21:31.58 | Qwell | Anybody happen to have a CCM box? I need a packet capture |
| 21:32.11 | asterboy | the pstn lines don't echo with regular phones. |
| 21:32.17 | HotaruT | fugitivo, dlynes: qsig on isdn lines or over sip? (o: |
| 21:32.22 | dlynes | DoktorGreg: What do you use? |
| 21:32.27 | asterboy | so must be zap or the phone. |
| 21:32.46 | asterboy | I can try a polycom to single out the phones |
| 21:32.51 | DoktorGreg | I use the delphi architect xml'ish tools |
| 21:32.55 | asterboy | I still need to disable framebuffer. |
| 21:33.06 | dlynes | HotaruT: fugitivo's afk atm, and I know nothing about siemens other than it's a huge phone system used predominantly in europe |
| 21:33.11 | *** part/#asterisk eKo1 (n=bernd@190.4.7.90) |
| 21:33.14 | asterboy | Also, can try a different codec |
| 21:33.19 | asterboy | using ulaw now. |
| 21:33.20 | DoktorGreg | with a gui you load a document, mark the elements you are interested in |
| 21:33.27 | DoktorGreg | it generates code |
| 21:33.44 | HotaruT | dlynes: hm, and you don't happen to know what RTP codec 99 is? <: |
| 21:33.50 | asterboy | or I could make some changes in asterisk compiled files |
| 21:34.00 | dlynes | HotaruT: One sec, and I'll see if I can find out |
| 21:34.05 | asterboy | just want to know if there is anyone with a BEST suggestion. |
| 21:34.23 | robin_sz | best suggestion for what to do with a GXP2000? |
| 21:34.34 | asterboy | lol...ya I can imagine |
| 21:34.40 | asterboy | doorstop? |
| 21:34.41 | robin_sz | no, you can't |
| 21:34.49 | dlynes | asterboy: try pastebinning your zapata.conf, and letting us know what hardware you've got running on your zaptel channel? |
| 21:34.58 | asterboy | ok, roger that |
| 21:34.59 | robin_sz | I was thinking of something involving gloves and a lot of lubricant |
| 21:35.37 | robin_sz | thnak $deity we bought Snoms for the office |
| 21:36.23 | robin_sz | still ... the GXP2000 isnt the worst phone I have ... oh no |
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| 21:37.27 | robin_sz | I have something MUCH worse :( |
| 21:37.33 | dlynes | HotaruT: Try checking out RFC3550 (STD0064), and RFC3551 (STD0065) - those are the specifications for RTP |
| 21:37.53 | asterboy | http://pastebin.ca/50591 |
| 21:38.05 | HotaruT | dlynes: thanks.. I'll look |
| 21:38.22 | dlynes | asterboy: so what zaptel hardware are you using? |
| 21:38.30 | asterboy | tdm04b |
| 21:38.35 | asterboy | 1 card |
| 21:38.38 | asterboy | 3 lines |
| 21:38.43 | asterboy | echo happens with just 1 call |
| 21:38.59 | dlynes | So when you've got three calls or two calls, it doesn't happen? |
| 21:39.00 | asterboy | actually a tdm03b |
| 21:39.13 | asterboy | yes still happens at all call levels |
| 21:39.19 | asterboy | 1 - 3 calls |
| 21:39.35 | asterboy | made sure it has its own IRQ |
| 21:39.56 | dlynes | asterboy: Which echo canceller are you using? |
| 21:39.58 | asterboy | IDE at udma2 |
| 21:40.11 | asterboy | just whats in zapata.conf. |
| 21:40.22 | asterboy | echocancel=yes |
| 21:40.30 | dlynes | asterboy: Check out your /usr/local/src/zaptel-1.2.5/Makefile |
| 21:40.45 | HotaruT | ah, found something in the trace from hipath: RFC2198: 1 PayloadType: 99 |
| 21:40.45 | dlynes | asterboy: It'll tell you what echo canceller you're using |
| 21:41.11 | asterboy | MARK2 is default, but I'll check |
| 21:41.52 | dlynes | HotaruT: RFC2198 is RTP payload for redundant audio data, and it's a proposed standard |
| 21:43.09 | dlynes | asterboy: Try MG2 - some people I've noticed have echo problems with MARK2, switch to MG2, and the echo disappears |
| 21:44.12 | dlynes | asterboy: erm...sorry....zaptel.h, not Makefile |
| 21:44.33 | asterboy | #define ECHO_CAN_KB1 |
| 21:44.43 | dlynes | asterboy: You can define it in zconfig.h |
| 21:44.53 | asterboy | ya thats where I'm looking |
| 21:45.06 | dlynes | Uncomment hte mg2 then, and comment out KB1 |
| 21:45.15 | asterboy | Page 152, verse, 1.2 of TheBible |
| 21:45.18 | dlynes | In zaptel-trunk, MG2 is the new default |
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| 21:45.31 | asterboy | then redo make? |
| 21:45.34 | asterboy | make install |
| 21:45.41 | dlynes | asterboy: then do a make clean ; make install |
| 21:45.52 | asterboy | ah right...always forget that make clean |
| 21:46.10 | asterboy | kinda like wiping clean before going onto the next girl :> |
| 21:46.22 | dlynes | Well, theoretically, it shouldn't be necessary |
| 21:46.31 | dlynes | but someone might have gotten lazy with the dependencies in the makefile |
| 21:46.52 | robin_sz | asterboy, nah, just get em to lick it clean .. saves effort :) |
| 21:46.58 | asterboy | LOL |
| 21:47.15 | asterboy | balls to chin |
| 21:47.56 | asterboy | ok, I have to do this on site. |
| 21:48.01 | asterboy | I'll be back on later |
| 21:48.10 | dlynes | ah..you fubared the server? |
| 21:48.26 | asterboy | ya, my connection to it went away for some reason. |
| 21:48.29 | asterboy | not sure why |
| 21:48.39 | dlynes | Yeah...did you reload the drivers while asterisk was running? |
| 21:48.52 | asterboy | no it went away a few hours ago on its own. |
| 21:48.54 | asterboy | not sure why |
| 21:48.57 | dlynes | ah |
| 21:49.06 | asterboy | I need to test echo on site anyway. |
| 21:49.06 | dlynes | Yeah...never reload the drivers while asterisk is running |
| 21:49.17 | asterboy | ok good call |
| 21:49.21 | dlynes | it's bad mmmkay? |
| 21:49.26 | asterboy | I might play with rxgain and txgain |
| 21:49.37 | asterboy | also codec |
| 21:49.42 | asterboy | but that will be last options |
| 21:49.46 | dlynes | codec shouldn't make a difference |
| 21:49.53 | dlynes | but on the lan you should be using ulaw, anyways |
| 21:49.55 | asterboy | finally got custom rings to work on gxp |
| 21:50.02 | asterboy | ok, ulaw it is |
| 21:50.07 | asterboy | now anyway |
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| 21:50.22 | asterboy | I need to disable framebuffer also |
| 21:50.31 | asterboy | from the video card |
| 21:50.46 | dlynes | Just get rid of the video card, period |
| 21:50.50 | asterboy | hear that its not good to run with * |
| 21:50.51 | dlynes | You don't need one on a server |
| 21:50.58 | asterboy | seriously I'd like to do that. |
| 21:51.02 | asterboy | run a serial console? |
| 21:51.11 | dlynes | Do it on my sparc, all the time :) |
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| 21:51.22 | dlynes | Well, serial console and ssh |
| 21:51.27 | asterboy | as long as the PC will alow a boot without video poll |
| 21:51.36 | dlynes | Yeah, why wouldn't it? |
| 21:51.37 | asterboy | doubt it |
| 21:51.43 | asterboy | some of them won't |
| 21:51.51 | asterboy | I'll try it though. |
| 21:52.01 | asterboy | I have ssh anyway |
| 21:52.02 | dlynes | Just tell it you don't have a video card in the bios |
| 21:52.04 | dlynes | erm wait |
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| 21:52.16 | dlynes | can't do that ...you won't see the menu to save the bios :) |
| 21:52.19 | asterboy | no choice for that |
| 21:52.20 | dlynes | heheheeh |
| 21:52.25 | asterboy | anyway |
| 21:52.54 | dlynes | but you could just through an mda card in there, if there's such a thing as an mda pci card |
| 21:54.16 | robin_sz | right, which one of you fucks is going to buy my laser? |
| 21:54.58 | robin_sz | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ferranti-450W-CO2-laser_W0QQitemZ7611858229QQcategoryZ26237QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 21:55.08 | robin_sz | go on, you know you need it |
| 21:56.01 | [TK]D-Fender | robin_sz : Does it come with a convenient shark-head mounting harness? ;) |
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| 21:56.40 | VoIPMasta | Hi there |
| 21:56.53 | VoIPMasta | Does anyone know why asterisk doesn't forward the caller id when using g.729? |
| 21:57.12 | kamileon | 157*699*11718 |
| 21:57.31 | kamileon | VoIPMasta: my * forwards CID over g729 to axvoice fine |
| 21:57.42 | robin_sz | VoIPMasta, you sure its not just your provider? |
| 21:58.02 | asterboy | bbl...thanks for the input |
| 21:58.03 | robin_sz | VoIPMasta, more liekly to be th provider than the particuar voice codec |
| 21:58.25 | VoIPMasta | kamileon: I have: PAP2 (g.729)---(g.729) Asterisk (g.729)------ (g.729)Asterisk(ulaw) ------ (ulaw) Termination provider |
| 21:58.38 | dlynes | robin_sz: that's hilarious...love all his warnings about safety all that jazz...the clincher is if you burn yourself to a crisp, he wants you send pictures :) |
| 21:58.41 | VoIPMasta | kamileon: if I change the codec in the first asterisk box to GSM then the caller id is correctly forwarded |
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| 21:58.54 | robin_sz | dlynes, thats mine :) |
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| 21:59.11 | dlynes | robin_sz: oh...thought you were joking :) |
| 21:59.17 | robin_sz | you wish |
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| 21:59.29 | dlynes | how much do those suckers run for? |
| 21:59.35 | dlynes | i noticed your reserve wasn't met yet |
| 21:59.40 | robin_sz | bid and find out ;) |
| 21:59.44 | dlynes | nah |
| 21:59.47 | dlynes | even if i won |
| 21:59.51 | dlynes | i wouldn't be able to pick it up |
| 21:59.56 | dlynes | I'm in Canada :) |
| 22:00.04 | robin_sz | details details ... |
| 22:00.32 | robin_sz | less than a kilobuck |
| 22:01.59 | De_Mon | kilobuck's arn't cheap around here |
| 22:02.27 | robin_sz | come now, for a 450w laser, its cheap |
| 22:02.41 | robin_sz | you can cut peoples heads of with it |
| 22:03.36 | robin_sz | admittedly that might not be such a great selling point :) |
| 22:03.45 | [TK]D-Fender | You can cut someones head off with a Royal Chinet knife too... it'll just take a while and be a lot more portable :) |
| 22:03.54 | dlynes | heh...and the guy that's bid on it looks like he's planning to do just that...cut people's heads off |
| 22:04.03 | dlynes | look at all the crap he's bid on in the past :) |
| 22:04.12 | robin_sz | oh. |
| 22:06.28 | De_Mon | omg |
| 22:07.02 | robin_sz | ah well, I dont care as long as it sells |
| 22:07.22 | robin_sz | need the space, so it had to go |
| 22:08.01 | De_Mon | that's always the first question I ask 'why are you selling it?' |
| 22:09.13 | robin_sz | well, it was in the way ,.. and its the lest powerful one I have .. ;) |
| 22:10.21 | De_Mon | what do you do with them? besides cut of peoples heads |
| 22:10.32 | De_Mon | something to do with voip im sure |
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| 22:11.37 | robin_sz | mmmm .... |
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| 22:12.39 | robin_sz | well, you know .. fun things ... like setting melting holes through bricks |
| 22:12.55 | robin_sz | or setting fire to fire doors ... ;) |
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| 22:47.49 | jr_ewing | hi |
| 22:48.24 | jr_ewing | some Astegeek on Mac there ? |
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| 23:16.04 | SwK_ | jr_ewing theres alotta mac asterisk geeks out there |
| 23:17.35 | Druken | i guess no one has access to a wiretap on bell lines eh?? hehe |
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