irclog2html for #asterisk on 20060514

`00:00.46`	`camelon`	`TK D-Fender . . . that's the case . . . 30 PCs doing somethings through the net like additional load to the *Box working`
`00:03.16`	`*** join/#asterisk Altair256 (n=Altair25@tn-greenback1a-30.rhmdky.adelphia.net)`
`00:03.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`camelon : Internet? No worries`
`00:05.36`	`camelon`	`TK D-Fender . . . mos of them (30PCs) Up & Down loading files related with businnes transactions . . . and so on at least to 10 hours`
`00:05.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`camelon : extremely far from an issue`
`00:07.27`	`camelon`	`TK D-Fender . . . . clear! thanks .. . what pitfalls to prevent?`
`00:08.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`camelon : Heavy traffic like graphics designers working with hug files in-line with the phone`
`00:09.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`camelon : huge file trnasfers at wireline speed (which internet won't be anywhere near I'm sure)`
`00:10.27`	`*** join/#asterisk Johnnie (n=jdlewis@pdpc/supporter/active/Johnnie)`
`00:10.56`	`Altair256`	`anyone happen to deal with provisioning of any non-Linksys phones? I have some general questions`
`00:11.08`	`camelon`	`TK D-Fender . . . and in the case of hug files in line o huge files transferwich additionalmeasures to avoid the system malfunction?`
`00:11.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`camelon : put your phones on their own lan.`
`00:11.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Altair256 : I provision Polycoms.`
`00:12.23`	`Altair256`	`[TK]D-Fender, do they use binary or text files for provisioning?`
`00:12.55`	`Altair256`	`[TK]D-Fender, and if they're binary, is there a linux cli tool to batch convert them?`
`00:12.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Altair256 : Every phone I've seen is text. Uniden (forgot I had those too), Cisco, Polycom, Linksys, etc.`
`00:13.23`	`Altair256`	`awesome. One last question. Have you ever noticed the order of the lines affecting the phones?`
`00:15.01`	`Altair256`	`order of the text lines in the file that is`
`00:15.30`	`camelon`	`TK D-Fender posible to have a Polycom recepcionist console quotation?`
`00:15.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Altair256 : depends on the phone. Polycom is XML so as long as the tags are in the right heirachy I'm sure it'd be fin, but there is a certain amount of order to respect. Uniden I doub't matters.`
`00:15.53`	`*** join/#asterisk hinckc (n=hinckc@ool-43522ae9.dyn.optonline.net)`
`00:15.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`camelon : Quotation?`
`00:16.09`	`camelon`	`yeppppp`
`00:16.22`	`Altair256`	`[TK]D-Fender, I'm working on a generic phone provisioning module...`
`00:16.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`camelon : Lets say $250 for the main unit + $225*3 for the add-on modules = 925$ I guess`
`00:16.35`	`Altair256`	`and was going to make a header, footer, and MAC specific entry for the phones`
`00:16.46`	`ManxPower`	`Always buy named brand phones, they taste better`
`00:16.56`	`Altair256`	`the header, footer, would be for each model (or optionally, class) of phone`
`00:17.03`	`*** join/#asterisk new_to_asterisk (n=new_to_a@64.27.130.150)`
`00:17.15`	`new_to_asterisk`	`hello`
`00:17.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Altair256 : Generic turns good phones into sucky phones. Polycom's offer a lot orf power. making them homogenous with say Uniden UIP-200's whold cripple them.`
`00:18.05`	`Altair256`	`that's the beauty... my goal is to basically make a glorified text editor`
`00:18.06`	`ManxPower`	`the polycom expansion module only supports 7 busy lamps with current asterisk`
`00:18.20`	`Altair256`	`example... there would be a polycom501 directory`
`00:18.24`	`*** join/#asterisk hads\|home (n=hads@mail.nice.net.nz)`
`00:18.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Altair256 : Whay you should do is make some "complete" configs that really tweak each phone, and jsut subsitute the pertinent connect info`
`00:18.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower : Not any more. SIP 1.6.6. fixed that.`
`00:18.45`	`Altair256`	`it would contain a header, footer files that contain what your company sees a "phone wide" settings`
`00:18.53`	`robl^`	`[TK]D-Fender: I agree in that no matter what phones you choose... its best to stay with the same brand/family for an install.. either all polycom, all cisco, or all snom`
`00:18.58`	`camelon`	`TK D-Fender could you send me the model . . . type of trunks allowed . . .characteritic and something else?`
`00:19.05`	`Altair256`	`then a mac address that contains the settings for each individual device`
`00:19.07`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender, REALLY? I thought it was a design/memory issue`
`00:19.09`	`new_to_asterisk`	`i have newbie question about a possible asterisk configuration if anyone has a moment`
`00:19.28`	`*** join/#asterisk Ariel_ (n=Ariel@dsl-20-177.cofs.net)`
`00:19.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`camelon : Go to www.polycom.com. I suggest IP 301's for all your basic users, 501's for your manager's, and 601 for receptionist.`
`00:19.41`	`Damin`	`Altair256: I did that w/ the Polycoms using SED and the Xml config files.. wrapped in bash scripts w/ dialog to provide a Text User Interface.`
`00:19.56`	`Altair256`	`work well for you, Damin?`
`00:20.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower : No, Polycom put that assy limit in artificially to probably try and push SIP-B adoption.`
`00:20.02`	`*** join/#asterisk kimosabe (n=kimosabe@dsl-200-78-71-61.prod-infinitum.com.mx)`
`00:20.13`	`Damin`	`Altair256: Took me about 2 hours, but now I can provision Polycom phones in about 3 seconds! ;)`
`00:20.17`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender, ah`
`00:20.23`	`kimosabe`	`does any one have astwindowz running with tdm400p for testing purposes`
`00:20.25`	`camelon`	`TK D-Fender . . perhaps the SP_IP601?`
`00:20.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower : My 601 is Godly now esp with * not resetting subscribes anymore.`
`00:20.42`	`Altair256`	`exactly my idea Damin... but I want to make the infrastructure around those scripts web based and unified`
`00:20.45`	`Damin`	`kimosabe: astwind is dead. It'll never run w/ a TDM400p.`
`00:20.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`camelon : I jsut told you which models for which kind of use.`
`00:21.04`	`Altair256`	`even if configuring each phone type is unique to each type`
`00:21.15`	`Damin`	`Altair256: Look at the SIPx Polycom / Phone proviisioning subsystem. It's already been done.`
`00:21.45`	`Altair256`	`... making this one specifically for FreePBX.`
`00:21.46`	`Damin`	`kimosabe: Astwind uses CoLinux, which doesn't have direct access to the PCI bus or the hardware layer.`
`00:21.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robl^ : Likewise with my all-Polycom setup :)`
`00:22.09`	`Damin`	`Altair256: No reason you can't use SIPX to provision phones for Asterisk! ;)`
`00:22.22`	`Altair256`	`yes, but I want the pretty interface :)`
`00:22.33`	`Damin`	`Altair256: So, their stuff is GPL..`
`00:22.35`	`new_to_asterisk`	`I'd like to setup asterisk on a bare-bones machine & connect to service over the internet to a voip provider like voipjet, broadvoice or packet8, then connect to the PBX with a cisco ip phone. Can the asterisk server do this without any specific hardware?`
`00:22.46`	`Altair256`	`I already have one working using raw text files and everything...`
`00:22.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`new_to_asterisk : Yes.`
`00:22.53`	`Damin`	`Altair256: Take their database schemas and provisiong code and wrap it in your own Web UI.`
`00:22.56`	`robl^`	`[TK]D-Fender: exactly.. when you have all uniform hardware.. you can tweak asterisk and features to take advantage of all the bells and whistles of your phones`
`00:23.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`new_to_asterisk : You're talking just SIP here so no need for anything special at all.`
`00:23.19`	`*** join/#asterisk techman97_andy (n=me@70-98-31-249.dsl1.rsm.mn.frontiernet.net)`
`00:23.34`	`Altair256`	`thanks Damin... I'll definitely take a look at their database schema`
`00:23.36`	`new_to_asterisk`	`excellent, thx for your time`
`00:23.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robl^ : yup. I'd hate to have analog Zap channels with stupid DTMF functionailty required...`
`00:24.05`	`Altair256`	`but for what I'm doing, I think I'll have to extend it to support different phones`
`00:24.20`	`Altair256`	`my plan was to store the header, footer, and per mac settings in a text blob`
`00:24.30`	`Altair256`	`like I said... just making a glorified text editor`
`00:24.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Altair256 : For what you suggest, consider your audience. Typically lower end users, small companies, etc. Stick with the more populat choices they'd make. Polycom, Snom, Linksys.`
`00:25.11`	`Altair256`	`Agreed there`
`00:25.17`	`Altair256`	`and shudder Grandstream`
`00:25.40`	`robl^`	`Linksys's major problem is that the recently switched to NOT selling to end users..`
`00:25.47`	`Altair256`	`although I have half a mind to make it automatically crash if it encounters the word Grandstream....`
`00:25.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Altair256 : No.... if you do that you only provide another reason for them to whine "but its SUPPORTED why shouldn't I pick up a BarbieTone?"`
`00:26.00`	`Altair256`	`at least then it would be consistent with how their product works`
`00:26.11`	`Altair256`	`lmao [TK]D-Fender`
`00:26.26`	`Damin`	`Altair256: http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/index.php/SipX_Configuration_Server`
`00:26.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I don't promote crap.... Atcom, GS.... ICK.`
`00:26.45`	`Altair256`	`ty Damin`
`00:26.50`	`Altair256`	`and agreed [TK]D-Fender`
`00:26.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Snos is PASSABLE, but their firmware is getting dangerously flakey.`
`00:27.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`snom*`
`00:27.27`	`Altair256`	`Linksys SPA-94x seem to really be picking up steam`
`00:27.41`	`Altair256`	`the Polycom 301/501 seem to be very popular`
`00:27.46`	`Damin`	`Altair256: "Starting with sipX release 3.1/3.2 it is now possible to manage firmware upgrade files as well as any other filetype that is loaded by a device using the TFTP protocol through the ConfigServer Web interface."`
`00:27.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Frankly until the market price comes down glabally I can't suggest much less than Polycom to anyone... budget isn't the reason for VoIP, though it is a natural PLUS.`
`00:27.48`	`Altair256`	`I just think they're ugly as sin`
`00:27.49`	`robl^`	`Snom is not bad.. just stay away from their beta firmware.. they are in the process of major changes going to 6.0 release.. it will be a while before it is stable`
`00:27.59`	`hads\|home`	`snoms sales channel in AU/NZ is a joke.`
`00:28.06`	`hads\|home`	`Pity.`
`00:28.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Altair256 : Linksys is a waste of time in North America given its price point. its mostly in europe where Polycom & Cisco's priecs get bloated do they come out ahead.`
`00:28.37`	`techman97_andy`	`hey all - good evening to you all again. Has anyone had any experience (or knows where I could look) in having Asterisk via an IVR connect to a MSSQL database and query data?`
`00:29.00`	`*** join/#asterisk r0d3nt (n=RatMan@foster.stonedcoder.org)`
`00:29.09`	`*** part/#asterisk ManxPower (n=ewieling@dpc67142183150.direcpc.com)`
`00:29.44`	`Altair256`	`that's a great quit macro`
`00:29.59`	`techman97_andy`	`:D`
`00:30.08`	`Altair256`	`have you searched http://voip-info.org/wiki/ techman97_andy ?`
`00:30.11`	`Damin`	`I'm 50/50 on SNOMS.. we had a bunch of 200's deployed at some clients and they like them.. They especially like the ease of being able to send a HTTP request to the phone forcing it to dial. Makes it real simple for the MS programmers to write integration crap..`
`00:30.28`	`Damin`	`In any case..`
`00:30.42`	`robl^`	`Damin: the Snom 360/320 is much nicer than the 200/220s`
`00:32.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robl^ : Snom screen usage seriously suck, and audio quality isn't quite up there.`
`00:32.52`	`*** join/#asterisk Chotaire (i=chotaire@chotaire.net)`
`00:33.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Cisco I think takes front seat but at a heavy premium, Polycom puls an easy second place, but whose price-point kills almost every other choice.`
`00:33.27`	`robl^`	`[TK]D-Fender: I agree on the screen usage.. thiugh you can use XML and reconfigure the layout anyway you want. the default sucks`
`00:34.13`	`Altair256`	`[TK]D-Fender, Linksys at 3rd in your mind then?`
`00:34.24`	`robl^`	`Polycom and Snom are the oly 2 phones I would use. Cisco is too much for too little...`
`00:34.28`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: We've never sold a Cisco phone to ANYONE, despite the fact that we give them the Cisco, Polycom, Sipura choice..`
`00:34.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Altair256 : Toss-up I guess.. linksys is too light, and may class simiar to Snam.`
`00:34.53`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: Everyone ends up w/ the Polycom because of two reasons: Price and Brand Name Recognition.`
`00:35.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : With Polycom being as good as they are there is almost no reason to choose Cisco.`
`00:35.20`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: It makes our job easier..`
`00:35.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : Unless you're talking XML functionality.`
`00:35.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : I'm sure it would.`
`00:35.46`	`robl^`	`the one thing I really like I about snom is that they are very active in opensource and asterisk`
`00:35.51`	`brookshire`	`omg.. polycom phones suck at booting up`
`00:36.00`	`brookshire`	`that's worth the extra money!`
`00:36.02`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: Right.. And I STILL have some lingering issues w/ my 7960's where all the sudden the phone will rpeat back snippets of my conversation and then crash..`
`00:36.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`brookshire : And compensate by excelling at STAYING up ;)`
`00:36.22`	`Damin`	`robl^: Yeah, but their engineers are dicks..`
`00:36.40`	`brookshire`	`robl: hehe.. what's this about asterisk?`
`00:36.43`	`brookshire`	`and snom?`
`00:36.45`	`brookshire`	`omg..`
`00:36.46`	`Damin`	`robl^: At Sping VON 05, Christian Streidike was an absolute ass...`
`00:37.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robl^ : I am something of a purist as far as standards and "open" are concerned, but sometimes people just don't get it right.`
`00:37.35`	`robl^`	`I see Snom engineers participating on Asterisk mailing lists.. I can't say that about Polycom`
`00:37.35`	`brookshire`	`http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3953e62a-28db-11da-8a5e-00000e2511c8,dwp_uuid=dac3e886-1f88-11da-853a-00000e2511c8.html`
`00:37.55`	`Damin`	`brookshire: I like the Polycom boot process. They are (so far) the only ones that really understand how to make a phone that allows you to slot it's configuration and boot system into virtually any network..`
`00:38.05`	`brookshire`	`that whole article is just.. wrong`
`00:38.10`	`Damin`	`brookshire: You can provision via TFTP, FTP, HTTP....`
`00:38.28`	`Damin`	`robl^: Why would Polycom engineers take part in the Asterisk mailing list?`
`00:38.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : He like most just dislike the 2 minute wait`
`00:38.55`	`brookshire`	`damin: i know.. i actually like polycom phones a lot.. aside from the whole reboot/boot thingy`
`00:38.57`	`Damin`	`robl^: What reason would they have to help a competing product to their own SIP product line?`
`00:39.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Polycom really DOES need to wake up just a little and realize the massive market that * can represent for them.`
`00:39.46`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: They do. But they will only help as far as they help any other project, which is to listen to properly submitted bug reports and fix them..`
`00:40.17`	`brookshire`	`[TK]D-Fender: polycom wants to work with cisco...`
`00:40.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`brookshire : UGH`
`00:40.33`	`brookshire`	`i mean.. they already get a cut from cisco phones`
`00:40.33`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: Part of the reason that Polycom phones work so well, is they keep the general population of Lusers away from their development staff. Important ideas are passed in, but the developers are sheltered by the layer of front-line resellers.. :)`
`00:40.38`	`*** join/#asterisk obanta (n=obanta@CPE-24-27-129-176.neb.res.rr.com)`
`00:40.45`	`brookshire`	`they own the speaker phone technology in cisco phones`
`00:41.08`	`robl^`	`didn't they also develope the original SIP firmware for Cisco?`
`00:41.08`	`brookshire`	`from what i understand`
`00:41.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : I have direct access to programming staff there, courtesy of my reseller :)`
`00:41.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robl^ : hard to believe given the size difference`
`00:42.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Cisco firmare < 1M, Polycom = 10M`
`00:42.06`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: But I dare say that only highly skilled people have that kind of access. That cuts down on useless chatter and bullshit that the developers have to deal with, so they can focus on their product. :)`
`00:42.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : Yeah, so far I've been very content with "out of the box" from them, and SIP 1.6.6 reaffirms things for me.`
`00:43.07`	`robl^`	`well, remember Cisco only got into VoIP after buying out another company. some of their earliest phones were just rebranded with an adhesive label over the original brand`
`00:43.11`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: Yep.. I've NEVER had to talk to them about a bug. NEVER. Things just "work".`
`00:43.55`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: And I've never had one go bad yet. 0% failure rate is impressive for me..`
`00:43.59`	`Altair256`	`of the wall quesiton... does PHP have a sanitize function for string data being passed to a sql statement?`
`00:44.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : same in my experience, and while their XML isn't the easiest hing in the world to work with it is still crystal clear in intent for me, and I succeed right away with every install. I have my phones ready to go before they even leave their box :)`
`00:44.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : I can't say taht however.. I did have 1 Polycom go bad on me. Network failure, which I RMA'd. but I mean really.. what are the odds?`
`00:45.14`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: Yeah.. once I built a standard set of SED scripts w/ some simple substitiion, provisioning phones is totally braindead..`
`00:45.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Altair256 : $myvar = "";`
`00:45.34`	`Altair256`	`lmao [TK]D-Fender`
`00:45.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : Assuming common line characteristics...`
`00:45.48`	`Altair256`	`suggesting that to sanitize it, I should set it to "" ?`
`00:46.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : like always the same # line keys for a single reg, etc.`
`00:46.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Altair256 : "" = clean! Perfectly safe! SQL code injection safe! ;)`
`00:46.39`	`Altair256`	`lol >.<`
`00:47.12`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: Right.. most of the provisioning that we do for people is all systems w/ like phones and like characteristics.. We don't give them the choices of "customization". When they ask, we tell them that they can customize their phone by entering their own speed dials and changing their ring tone! ;)`
`00:48.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : heh. I've got an inside connection with ScopServ who're already provisioning a whole whack of makes & models in their interface.`
`00:49.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : Which of course.... I DON'T USE :D Their interface yes (by force), but not provisioning. Once I learned how to do it I'm never giving up my control.`
`00:50.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mind you most of what I've done might jsut as well have been done by a single template & SED.`
`00:50.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`But I did it from scratch.`
`00:51.53`	`*** join/#asterisk xanderp (n=xanderp@12.222.95.177)`
`00:52.55`	`xanderp`	`is there a distro of asterisk that runs from a bootable cd w/no hd needed? I have a compaq proliant server that should have the horsepower needed, but it doesn't have any drives in it.`
`00:53.12`	`Damin`	`xanderp: astlinux`
`00:53.17`	`robl^`	`astlinux`
`00:53.18`	`xanderp`	`kewl... thanks`
`00:53.18`	`Damin`	`www.astlinux.org`
`00:53.40`	`robl^`	`though AstLinux really shines for embedded systems...`
`00:53.50`	`xanderp`	`i was hoping it would exist, or maybe one that boots from pxe boot or something`
`00:53.52`	`robl^`	`I am building one for my home system...`
`00:54.05`	`Damin`	`robl^: Works just as good for a regular box w/ a CD-Rom drive and a floppy! ;)`
`00:54.14`	*** join/#asterisk Lino` (n=Lino@i577BF5BC.versanet.de)
`00:54.16`	`Damin`	`robl^: Use the Floppy as your KeyDisk.. ;)`
`00:54.32`	`xanderp`	`would i put configurations on a floppy then?`
`00:54.42`	`Damin`	`xanderp: Yeah.. you can..`
`00:55.08`	`Damin`	`xanderp: Well.. let me rephrase that.. You SHOULD be able to but I've never done it..`
`00:55.27`	`xanderp`	`thanks`
`00:55.27`	`robl^`	`Damin: of course! but I am running out of desk space... my old home system is about dead.. powersupply is failing, etc.. so I decided to go with a tiny embedded server`
`00:55.44`	`Damin`	`robl^: Yep.. my PBX at home is a soekris..`
`00:55.57`	`robl^`	`ahh.. I have a WRAP ;-)`
`00:56.00`	`batphone`	`sup with this gentoo init script in 1.2.7.1`
`00:56.05`	`batphone`	`"Asterisk has not yet been started"`
`00:56.16`	`batphone`	`its obviously running..`
`00:56.18`	`Damin`	`batphone: It probably means that Asterisk has not yet been started.`
`00:56.18`	`xanderp`	`i'll probably build a dedicated machine, but until i work out the details and do a proof of concept for myself i'll test on this gutted server...`
`00:56.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mine is a nice Antec Sonata tower with AMD 2000+, Sangoma S518 ADSL card, and is my router, HTCP, stoage server, and used to make me coffee :)`
`00:56.58`	`Damin`	`xanderp: Get the Asterisk The Future of Telephony book from O'Reilly. It'll save you many many hours of online searching and get you up and running quickly.`
`00:57.43`	`Altair256`	`that book is a must have`
`00:57.45`	`xanderp`	`my main objective is to just be able to bounce SIP calls off it to my vonage system.`
`00:57.58`	`robl^`	`[TK]D-Fender: hehhe. I had an Athlon 2000+ box.. but I fear if I ever power it down the drive will never spin up or powersupply will be dead.`
`00:58.01`	`Damin`	`xanderp: Then why use Asterisk?`
`00:58.14`	`xanderp`	`don't know another system for it`
`00:58.16`	`Damin`	`xanderp: You could do that with SER..`
`00:58.21`	`Damin`	`Sip Express Router...`
`00:58.30`	`xanderp`	`more simple?`
`00:58.46`	`Damin`	`http://www.iptel.org/ser/`
`00:59.13`	`Damin`	`xanderp: Depends on your definition of Simple. It does one thing, but does it REALLY REALLY REALLY well. :) It's a SIP proxy.`
`00:59.29`	`robl^`	`xanderp: depends on your definition of SIMPLE. SER is smaller, and much more limited in features/uses.. but as a dedicated process for what you want would likely work better`
`00:59.46`	`Damin`	`xanderp: If you need to do anything more than just simple proxying, however, you will need something else (which is where Asterisk can help).`
`01:00.25`	`robl^`	`Asterisk is a phonesystem construction set on steroids.`
`01:00.34`	`xanderp`	`ahh`
`01:01.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robl^ : I prefer to think of it as Dr. Jeckyls "cough serum" more than steroids" myself ;)`
`01:01.29`	`robl^`	`hehehehe..`
`01:01.30`	`batphone`	`Damin: thanks for the info`
`01:01.39`	`batphone`	`the init script does not work`
`01:01.41`	`batphone`	`it starts asterisk`
`01:01.49`	`batphone`	`im just trying to grok this logic in the script`
`01:02.02`	`batphone`	`of all the 43 init scripts this is the longest one`
`01:02.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`* tries to be everything to everone in telephony and comes up short in a lot of places that would seriously strengthen its repect in the marketplace.`
`01:02.28`	`robl^`	`ok. back to migrating my system to my astlinux/wrap server....`
`01:02.42`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: But for most users, Asterisk is sufficient.. and it gets better every day...`
`01:03.07`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: If you could change one thing to make Asterisk better, what would it be?`
`01:03.58`	`xanderp`	`i'd like 2 features: use a softphone bounced off my home vonage adapter through an FXO card, and then possibly a secured web-sip phone that can do the same thing`
`01:04.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : not 1 thing, beut a series of key things. Tighten up zaptel and EC. Then really crack down on a more scalable and complete SIP channel. Who really gives a rat's ass about MGCP/SCCP? Not where the focus should be.`
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`01:04.56`	`batphone`	`i wish i could assign irq's to zaptel hardware with insmod`
`01:04.59`	`batphone`	`that would be really nice`
`01:05.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xanderp : I've done the Vonage through FXO deal before... kind sucks and rarely pays. bett off getting a regular unlimited broadvoice account and bypass the need for hardware.`
`01:05.18`	`Damin`	`batphone: Yeah.. that would be nice..`
`01:05.44`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'd change the DTMF handling..`
`01:05.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`batphone : no, better that Digium card's simply not be as picky as they are and not care so much.`
`01:06.01`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: Which Kevin is already working on and should be in 1.4..`
`01:06.06`	`xanderp`	`[TK]D-Fender: what sucked about it?`
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`01:06.10`	`batphone`	`HPET support in the hardware timers would kick butt`
`01:06.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Home & business = SIP / Zaptel.`
`01:06.23`	`robl^`	`oh.. does anyone know if there is a way to assign a hint priority in AEL yet?`
`01:06.26`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: Variable Length DTMF and interoperability of RFC-2833 is probably the single biggest complaint that I get from customers..`
`01:06.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : What aspect is he working on?`
`01:06.38`	`Damin`	`Alright. must get to work now..`
`01:06.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : Yes, I've heard it myself, though not directly.`
`01:07.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robl^ : AEL... another waste of time! Put that effort into a better chan_sip!`
`01:07.46`	`batphone`	`how about faxing`
`01:07.48`	`Damin`	`[TK]D-Fender: All aspects. To make it simple, if you press a key for 541 MS in Zap, it will send 541 MS of DTMF. ;) Implementing Start, Continuation and Stop functions in the PBX core..`
`01:08.21`	`Damin`	`batphone: By a $20 fax modem and use Hylafax. Done.`
`01:08.29`	`batphone`	`Damin: a list of recommended motherboards would be nice`
`01:08.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : Great. Flexible core, simple base. respect that and I'm happy :)`
`01:08.41`	`xanderp`	`[TK]D-Fender: what is the problem with bouncing a sip call through FXO to the vonage adapter?`
`01:08.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`batphone : Again, less picky cards make any board good :)`
`01:08.52`	`Damin`	`xanderp: Echo.`
`01:08.54`	`batphone`	`Damin: were using hylafax and iaxmodem, but we had to cough up for development of hylafax`
`01:09.29`	`Damin`	`batphone: Faxing isn't Asterisk's responsibility IMHO...`
`01:09.38`	`xanderp`	`Damin: odd... don't know why i'd get echo... seems like it would just be a passthough funcion.`
`01:09.39`	`Damin`	`Alright. must get to work now..`
`01:09.39`	`batphone`	`Damin: yeah but to sell a phone system you get that question`
`01:09.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xanderp : Well.. you can't do call waiting, you double up your VoIP encoding cutting call quality, add a bunch of hardware that cand fail, risks of EC dissatisfaction on the FXO between it and the ATA. Need I go on?`
`01:10.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xanderp : Echo can come in any time you hit a 2-wire interface`
`01:10.27`	`Damin`	`batphone: Why? I never get that question. We require our clients to have a single analog FXO line at their office for 911. They use that for faxing.`
`01:10.45`	`xanderp`	`[TK]D-Fender: thanks... I guess I just need to wait for them to open up their SIP to the customers... :(`
`01:10.52`	`batphone`	`Damin: we have hundreds of clients, from FEMA to Exxon`
`01:10.57`	`batphone`	`batphone: faxing is not an option`
`01:11.11`	`batphone`	`but the analog lines are nice`
`01:11.15`	`Damin`	`batphone: Why does it have to be done over Asterisk though, when Asterisk doesn't do it very well?`
`01:11.19`	`batphone`	`i always prefer to go with them`
`01:11.44`	`batphone`	`Damin: in some cases we have to maintain fax to email for lots of people`
`01:11.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xanderp : Well SIP can be done easily, its a question of how, for what, and based on what kind of implementation.`
`01:11.55`	`batphone`	`it can mean the difference between getting the deal and not getting the deal`
`01:12.10`	`batphone`	`all though i completely agree, asterisk should not be made to fax`
`01:12.27`	`Damin`	`batphone: Then propose something besides Asterisk that does the entire package correctly! :) Can't push a square peg into a round hole.. :)`
`01:12.30`	`batphone`	`its an undue burden on everyone to support an ancient technology that was never perfect to begin with`
`01:13.46`	`Damin`	`batphone: But if you have to maintain Fax to Email for lots of people, then bring the faxes in on a PRI into a Hylafax box.`
`01:13.46`	`xanderp`	`[TK]D-Fender: my main motive is to be able to utilize my cheap vonage line for calls when I'm not home without having to drag my ATA box around with me. Until vonage lets me do that without having to purchase a second (limited minutes) line I thought I could tinker with bouncing calls off an FXO card.`
`01:14.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Damin : BS! I've prove with the correct application of force I can shove any of those pegs wherever the hell I please ;)`
`01:14.44`	`robl^`	`xander: tinker is fine.. but you are better off with a service from a company that lets you supply your own device (i.e. Asterisk)`
`01:14.45`	`Damin`	`xanderp: "Cheap vonage" Hahahahahahaha How much does that cheap vonage line cost you / month? :)`
`01:15.04`	`xanderp`	`round holes are good at shaving those pesky corners off of square pegs... :)`
`01:15.19`	`xanderp`	`24.95`
`01:15.32`	`Damin`	`xanderp: And have you done an analysis of your calling needs to know wether it would be cheaper to go w/ a per-minute account somwhere else? :)`
`01:15.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xanderp : Broadvoice's unlimited package probably costs the same as Vonage and would circumvent the need for any of that trouble or added hardware cost, setup, hassles`
`01:15.53`	`Damin`	`xanderp: At 1.1 cents / minute, how many minutes do you need to put over your "cheap vonage" line each month to get the value out of it?`
`01:16.18`	`xanderp`	`haven't done the math`
`01:16.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I just did :) 2268.1818181818181818181818181818`
`01:16.56`	`Damin`	`xanderp: I'll bet you a six pack that your spending about $18 more / month w/ Vonage than you need to. ;)`
`01:17.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`AKA "a LOT"`
`01:17.14`	`robl^`	`dang repeating decimals ;-)`
`01:17.28`	`brookshire`	`oh no! not $18`
`01:17.28`	`Damin`	`Average consume uses less than 500 minutes of calling / month.. Unles you have teenage girls..`
`01:17.55`	`Damin`	`At which point, you are better off w/ the unlimited plans! ;)`
`01:18.01`	`xanderp`	`~2200 minutes and still no LD charges yes?`
`01:18.08`	`Damin`	`Alright.. I REALLY have to go! :)`
`01:18.26`	`Damin`	`xanderp: No LD charges. 1.1 / minute no matter where in the US48 you call..`
`01:18.47`	`Damin`	`xanderp: If you buy $50 worth of credit, it'll most likely last you 5-6 months.`
`01:18.53`	`xanderp`	`is that for the broadvoice?`
`01:19.02`	`Damin`	`xanderp: No.. plainvoip..`
`01:19.12`	`Damin`	`xanderp: Don't know Broadvoice's pricing models..`
`01:19.27`	`Damin`	`don't think broadvoice offers per-minute pricing..`
`01:19.42`	`Damin`	`http://www.plainvoip.com/`
`01:19.57`	`xanderp`	`thanks... will check it out.`
`01:20.06`	`batphone`	`we are working on the fax Damin`
`01:20.08`	`xanderp`	`reliable etc... yes?`
`01:20.15`	`batphone`	`we have it down pretty good, its just been a long road`
`01:20.29`	`batphone`	`takes a really stable box to do it right`
`01:22.31`	`Damin`	`xanderp: Yep. But you don't have to stick with one company. You can spread the love around.. Get two or three different providers and plug them all into your ASterisk box..`
`01:24.07`	`xanderp`	`I didn't realize that there were 'good' companies that were competitive with vonage yet. (guess vonage has done a good job of brainwashing me!)`
`01:24.09`	`batphone`	`FYI, you can put 24 T1's in an asterisk box with those 4 port cards ;)`
`01:24.18`	`batphone`	`you just have to pick the mobo very carefully...`
`01:24.24`	`batphone`	`im pretty impressed with it`
`01:24.52`	`Damin`	`batphone: What MB do you suggest for multiple T1 cards?`
`01:25.48`	`Damin`	`batphone: I am looking to consolidate a max w/ 16 DS1 circuits into a single Asterisk box (no transcoding, just Zap to SIP Ulaw)`
`01:26.36`	`xanderp`	`ok, i'm now off to my vonage account to see how many minutes I use :) thanks for opening my eyes!`
`01:26.51`	`Damin`	`batphone: ??`
`01:27.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`batphone : Sanoma is about to release an 8-port T1 card :)`
`01:33.08`	mrhyd3`	`who will port a toll # I have with nufone to someone else? their service has been down too long and no info`
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`01:38.10`	`salviadud`	`hey, if i start a an Answer app, what do i need to add to my .call or my extension so it can wait for an answer`
`01:38.25`	`SplasPood`	`Is there any way to determine if a given exten/context exists from within the dialplan?`
`01:38.44`	`salviadud`	`grep?`
`01:39.06`	`salviadud`	`cat\|extensions.conf\|grep bla bla bla`
`01:39.13`	`SplasPood`	`heh.. I mean I want to jump to that exten IF it exists...`
`01:39.17`	`salviadud`	`the first pipe is wrong though, hehe`
`01:39.32`	`salviadud`	`well, you dial it if it exists`
`01:39.34`	`SplasPood`	`I mean, I suppose it could be hacked up in that way, but...`
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`01:40.22`	`SplasPood`	`oh, I can just use Goto()`
`01:40.26`	`SplasPood`	`it will go on if it can't`
`01:40.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SplasPood : ou could make a context that includes your target context and an "i" exten to catch a failure....`
`01:40.53`	`SplasPood`	`Basically I'm looking to keep outbound calls for locally hosted DIDs local`
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`01:41.33`	`SplasPood`	`rather than, for example.. out default SIP termination, then back in over PRI`
`01:41.59`	mrhyd3`	`anyone running sccp with their *?`
`01:42.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SplasPood : really? that'd be easier if thats the case but I thought`
`01:42.27`	`SplasPood`	`[TK]D-Fender: eh?`
`01:42.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SplasPood : I actually did something like that for a COLO style install for a client once`
`01:42.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SplasPood : About the Goto continuing on fail.`
`01:43.08`	`SplasPood`	`See any issues with it?`
`01:43.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SplasPood : Dunno... never tried, always assumed it'd fail.`
`01:43.30`	`SplasPood`	`not according to show application`
`01:43.33`	`SplasPood`	`let's find out..`
`01:44.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SplasPood : I never looked that close in all honesty and if it says it does, it probably does.`
`01:44.43`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: June 18th, I think it was`
`01:45.05`	`SplasPood`	`heh`
`01:45.08`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: btw...around the same time, they'll finally be bringing out the echo cancellers for t1/e1 single port and dual port`
`01:45.14`	`SplasPood`	`[TK]D-Fender: No, it did not work :P`
`01:45.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : Given horare I revisit these things I'm not surprised`
`01:45.21`	`SplasPood`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:45.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : Enter market disruption :)`
`01:45.57`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: ?`
`01:46.09`	`SplasPood`	`Yet show application states:`
`01:46.10`	`SplasPood`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:46.10`	`SplasPood`	`then the channel will continue at the next priority of the current extension.`
`01:46.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : They'd be alone in that product class and at a price point that will drive everything down.`
`01:46.25`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: anyways...on Monday, I'll see just what all the fuss is about Sangoma`
`01:46.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : in what capacity?`
`01:46.54`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'll have two a200d's then...one will be a four port fxo, and the other will be a 2 port fxs/2 port fxo`
`01:47.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : Whats the FXS for?`
`01:47.14`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: faxing :)`
`01:47.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : Better off leaving them on their own dedicated analog lines...`
`01:47.43`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: might be better off, but i don't care if it's better off, or not`
`01:47.53`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: I just want to integrate it into the pbx, if i can`
`01:48.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : Youre jsut the`
`01:48.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`reseller are ou?`
`01:48.10`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: that way i can free up a line, so that the fax isn't dedicated`
`01:48.25`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: isp`
`01:49.11`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: We don't resell the cards...we'll be selling a wholly integrated system`
`01:49.25`	`littleball`	`hello, i encount big echo when call from xlite to pstn phone. pstn phone user feel big echo. but sip phone user not. why?`
`01:49.31`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: and the service that goes along with it`
`01:50.01`	`dlynes`	`~echo`
`01:50.02`	`jbot`	`echo is probably an issue which can be best fixed using this link: http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/content/docbook/current/docs-html/x1695.html#AEN1718, or fixed with fxotune: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+fxotune, or best fixed by troubleshooting your pci bus: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+PCI+bus+Troubleshooting, or of ...`
`01:51.21`	mrhyd3`	`for *, should I install debian server or ubuntu?`
`01:51.32`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: however, these two cards are predominantly for our own use and for demo purposes`
`01:52.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : Nothing wrong withthe cards... just the reliability of pass-through faxing.`
`01:52.24`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: yeah, i realize that`
`01:52.34`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: That's why i intend to play with it`
`01:52.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : there IS another way you can do it though.....`
`01:52.40`	`camelon`	`mrhyd3 . . .forget ubuntu`
`01:52.42`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: so i can see how well i can get it to work`
`01:52.47`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: what's that?`
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`01:54.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : all FXO. last line is split with fax. * listens for fax tones passively and on detect jsut never picks up letting it fall through to the machine, which will be programmed for say 6-8 rings. if * answers on no-fax the machine will ignore it.`
`01:55.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : downside being that if someone tries to SUE the machine while the line is in use it will interrupts the call. Another way around that is one of thsoe cheapo privacy filters on it.`
`01:55.49`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: and it'll do the passthrough if you use faxdetect=both?`
`01:56.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : should do it.`
`01:57.09`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: yeah...the other way....fxs -> asterisk -> fxo is slightly better though, because then if an analog line's not available, you can play a busy signal`
`01:57.48`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: and that way eventually when asterisk supports t.38 properly and t.38 is reliable, you can switch them over to t.38 easily without requiring a site visit`
`01:58.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : true, but more reliable this way.`
`01:58.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`t.38 IS another matter though`
`01:58.47`	`dlynes`	`Or do an rxfax on the fxs, and then queue the fax for when you've got a free fxo line`
`01:58.56`	`dlynes`	`and then send it out via txfax`
`01:59.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : no way on that!`
`01:59.09`	`dlynes`	`why's that?`
`01:59.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : BAD odds by comparison to analog passthrough even...`
`01:59.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SpanDSP on both ends really amplifies postential problems.`
`01:59.48`	`dlynes`	`so what you're saying is that txfax is absolutely horrible?`
`01:59.57`	`hads\|home`	`I've found analog faxes with TDM400 FXS -> FXO passthrough reliable.`
`02:00.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : Not in and of itself, but not for in-line use like that.`
`02:00.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : lee = more. don't overprocess wherever possible`
`02:01.10`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: no...what i meant is use rxfax to save the fax to a tiff file, and then queue that tiff file for outbound faxing, and then have txfax send it when it's able to find a free analog line`
`02:02.34`	`dlynes`	`[TK]D-Fender: and have any inbound faxes just come into email instead, using rxfax`
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`02:02.51`	`goldenear`	`hi there`
`02:03.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : depends if yuo are expecting a larger fax volume than you have devices to handle... then again, why double-end the faxing? Just spit it right out to a printer!`
`02:03.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes : Yes, fax-email and fax-printer = good, but Double ending RX/TX Fax to analog is just silly and risks data loss.`
`02:03.47`	`dlynes`	`Nah...that solution would be for a small office`
`02:03.54`	`goldenear`	`I've got a simple question... I hope somebody can answer me:`
`02:04.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`goldenear : 42.`
`02:04.35`	`dlynes`	`Doing everything through email+pdf->tif->txfax is another solution I want to use for high volume faxing`
`02:04.45`	`dlynes`	`Anyways...gotta run`
`02:04.51`	`dlynes`	`Just got invited up for a bbq`
`02:04.56`	`goldenear`	`Does STUN always work with a restricted port NAT ?`
`02:05.43`	`goldenear`	`I mean, I read everywhere that if the NAT is not symmetric, STUN is the solution.`
`02:06.01`	mrhyd3`	`anyone running a Cisco 7970 phone?`
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`02:06.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`goldenear : STUN can help in many cases. depends on the exact scenario.`
`02:07.44`	`demigod2k`	`can I use a tone generator and probe to check wires on a punchdown block plugged into PSTN? or do I need to remove all bridge clips first before probing`
`02:07.51`	`goldenear`	`But here, I've a port restricted NAT. (Winstun say VOIP is OK with it) and for some calls, it doesn't work :(`
`02:08.35`	`goldenear`	`eg it doesn't work when I call 612@fwd.pulver.com (no incoming sound)`
`02:09.26`	`goldenear`	`[TK]D-Fender: except symmetric NAT, what could prevent STUN from working ?`
`02:11.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`goldenear : not sure on the fine points personally....`
`02:12.31`	`goldenear`	`I don't understand neither :(`
`02:13.27`	`goldenear`	`If there is a sip specialist here... I would apreciate a little enlightment :)`
`02:37.31`	`techman97_andy`	`hey all, apart from Iterus, who I've spoken with - does anyone have a good recommendation on a SIP provider? (personal experience preferred)`
`02:38.32`	`goldenear`	`techman97_andy: it depends what you need`
`02:39.28`	`techman97_andy`	`goldenear: what parameters would you need to see from me?`
`02:39.33`	`goldenear`	`http://www.sipcenter.com/sip.nsf/html/Service+Providers`
`02:39.53`	`goldenear`	`I guess you have the choice there ;)`
`02:40.15`	`techman97_andy`	`yeah, but I'm looking for real-world personal experiences. A list is like a greasy sales guy - they're "all good"`
`02:40.34`	`goldenear`	`for personal of profesional use ?`
`02:40.38`	`techman97_andy`	`professional`
`02:40.52`	`techman97_andy`	`not call center volume, but standard small business use - 5-10 lines, LD, etc`
`02:41.05`	`goldenear`	`in the US ?`
`02:41.22`	`techman97_andy`	`I used VoiceEclipse for our own business, but I wouldn't put anyone through the bullsh$t that we went through with them`
`02:41.24`	`techman97_andy`	`yeah, US`
`02:41.40`	`techman97_andy`	`VE is stable now, but it took a month of their bumbling.`
`02:41.48`	`techman97_andy`	`and a threat from our owner to pull service`
`02:41.51`	`techman97_andy`	`=(`
`02:42.09`	`techman97_andy`	`and I guess a wide footprint of local numbers we can pull from`
`02:42.14`	`techman97_andy`	`that would be very nice`
`02:42.33`	`goldenear`	`I'm not in the US sorry`
`02:42.48`	`techman97_andy`	`np man - I'll wait to poll some other random person out here...=)`
`02:43.20`	`goldenear`	`btw are you using sip/voip for a long time now ?`
`02:45.17`	`goldenear`	`techman97_andy: ?`
`02:47.02`	`techman97_andy`	`sorruy`
`02:47.03`	`techman97_andy`	`back`
`02:47.14`	`techman97_andy`	`wife just got <shudder> an iPod and needed help`
`02:47.30`	`techman97_andy`	`I've been using SIP/VoIP in a production environment since mid-March now`
`02:47.38`	`techman97_andy`	`it's finally only been stable for about 3 weeks though`
`02:47.44`	`techman97_andy`	`stable as a rock....`
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`02:48.15`	`techman97_andy`	`damn SIP provider...=)`
`02:48.49`	`goldenear`	`are you using it only @work ?`
`02:49.09`	`goldenear`	`or do you also have a sip phone @home ?`
`02:49.16`	`techman97_andy`	`our setup is that we have the * server at our main office...which only the owner is at. The rest of us all work out of our homes`
`02:49.35`	`techman97_andy`	`we all have ...pause...GrandStream GXP-2000 phones...at our homes and connect to the main office`
`02:49.53`	`techman97_andy`	`the GS phones aren't really all that bad - just can't conference two like codec-channels`
`02:49.56`	`techman97_andy`	`not yet at least`
`02:50.10`	`techman97_andy`	`GS support says that they will have a firmware update to the DSP chip that controls that later in the year`
`02:50.28`	`techman97_andy`	`=)`
`02:50.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Oh no, I accept no excuses ;)`
`02:51.05`	`techman97_andy`	`:)`
`02:51.22`	`goldenear`	`ok`
`02:51.35`	`goldenear`	`and you had never experienced NAT issues ?`
`02:51.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Or substitutes :)`
`02:51.52`	`techman97_andy`	`we did at the beginning, but it was all handled through STUN and port forwarding on the server end`
`02:51.59`	`techman97_andy`	`but it's all OK now`
`02:52.34`	`techman97_andy`	`we actually have one office now that has two GS phones and a SPA-1001 for a fax machine that all work via SIP / NAT`
`02:52.40`	`goldenear`	`STUN seems indeed to be a nice solution`
`02:52.54`	`techman97_andy`	`STUN just seems to make NAT problems go away`
`02:53.02`	`goldenear`	`not for me :(`
`02:53.02`	`techman97_andy`	`our SIP provider provides a STUN server for our use`
`02:53.44`	`techman97_andy`	`The biggest NAT issues I've seen with SIP / NAT is if the server is behind NAT #1 and client is behind NAT #2`
`02:53.46`	`goldenear`	`I'm currently using freeworldialup.com`
`02:53.47`	`techman97_andy`	`then it gets ICKY.`
`02:54.06`	`goldenear`	`yes`
`02:54.20`	`goldenear`	`because of the server...`
`02:54.37`	`goldenear`	`port forwarding to the server is a must in this case`
`02:54.46`	`techman97_andy`	`I ended up slapping a 2nd NIC in our server, putting IPTABLES and a bunch of ToS / QoS rules in place, and slapping it with a public IP`
`02:55.03`	`techman97_andy`	`from my experience, correct.`
`02:55.55`	`goldenear`	`Do all you calls are ok ? or do you experiment one way audio sometimes ?`
`02:56.23`	`techman97_andy`	`our audio is crystal clear and always two-way now.`
`02:56.27`	`techman97_andy`	`g729`
`02:56.51`	`techman97_andy`	`and we had a few issues with one-way audio, but through some magical port forwarding at the server - we got about 90% of the issues to go away`
`02:57.12`	`techman97_andy`	`but needing >99% reliability for audio (connection at least), that's when we decided to put it on the Internet direct.`
`02:57.16`	`goldenear`	`I don't understand... I use STUN, my NAT in not symmetric, but I have one way audio on some calls :(`
`02:57.36`	`techman97_andy`	`how is your enviro setup again?`
`02:58.01`	`goldenear`	`what do you mean by enviro setup ?`
`02:58.16`	`techman97_andy`	`environment setup - how is your * / SIP phones setup logically?`
`02:59.02`	`goldenear`	`SIP phone ---- NAT ----- fwd.pulver.net`
`02:59.07`	`goldenear`	`very basic`
`02:59.09`	`techman97_andy`	`aahhh`
`02:59.15`	`techman97_andy`	`so no * server at all - my bad, sorry`
`02:59.27`	`goldenear`	`I'm making test`
`02:59.37`	`techman97_andy`	`on your firewall, port forward tcp 5060, and udp 9999-20001 will take care of most of your issues`
`02:59.46`	`goldenear`	`fwd.pulver.net shoud be replaced soon by an * server`
`02:59.51`	`techman97_andy`	`gotcha`
`03:00.12`	`techman97_andy`	`with a trippy NAT device - it's not ideal on the forwarding there, but it's what you need to do`
`03:00.29`	`techman97_andy`	`I had an older router whose owner refused to buy new...so I ended up doing that.`
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`03:01.30`	`goldenear`	`The issue doesn't seem to be the NAT device...`
`03:01.42`	`techman97_andy`	`you'd be surprised.`
`03:01.55`	`goldenear`	`I've made the test with Winstun and it's reported to be OK for voip`
`03:01.58`	`techman97_andy`	`I had to break out sip debug peer and ethereal to figure that bad boy out`
`03:02.12`	`techman97_andy`	`tests are one thing - the real world is another.`
`03:02.44`	`goldenear`	`I've read carefuly all the stun logs from my SIP softphone and all seems to be OK`
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`03:03.05`	`goldenear`	`most calls are ok (two way audio)`
`03:03.05`	`techman97_andy`	`are you forwarding any ports right now?`
`03:03.07`	`coppice`	`if its a windows program, I guess it says everything is secure, too :-)`
`03:03.16`	`techman97_andy`	`coppice: rofl`
`03:03.27`	`goldenear`	`but I can't explain why, some calls are not (no audio)`
`03:04.02`	`goldenear`	`I'm using linux right now`
`03:04.11`	`goldenear`	`my softphone is Twinkle`
`03:04.56`	`techman97_andy`	`I dunno man - with random issues like that, you'd almost have to put a packet sniffer on the line each and every time you make / receive calls to really catch the problem in action`
`03:05.22`	`techman97_andy`	`typically the reason you only get one way audio or no audio at all is because the UDP RTP packets cannot get from point A to point B`
`03:05.28`	`goldenear`	`It's not really random if fact`
`03:05.34`	`techman97_andy`	`(the 9999-20001 ports)`
`03:05.52`	`goldenear`	`some calls never work`
`03:06.25`	`techman97_andy`	`with a softphone and FWD, it's hard to really gauge what the problem would be apart from port forwarding man`
`03:06.44`	`goldenear`	`eg 613@fwd.pulver.com doesn't work (it works only using the fwdnet.net output proxy)`
`03:07.43`	`goldenear`	`outbound proxy`
`03:07.54`	`goldenear`	`(not output, sorry)`
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`03:08.27`	`techman97_andy`	`not trying to sound like an unhelpful jerk here at all - but man, I dunno - that more sounds like a problem with how you have your softphone setup, or with FWD rather than a network issue`
`03:09.28`	`goldenear`	`I've tryed other softphones and its always the same`
`03:10.04`	`techman97_andy`	`I did use FWD once a LONG time ago - and I seem to remember a number you can call for help - I would try that first with them`
`03:10.19`	`techman97_andy`	`but ya kinda get what you pay for with that imho.`
`03:12.22`	`goldenear`	`I will continue my investigation... I must understand why some calls doesn't work :)`
`03:12.30`	`techman97_andy`	`good luck dude`
`03:12.42`	`goldenear`	`thank you for your help andy`
`03:12.47`	`goldenear`	`:)`
`03:13.10`	`CunningPike`	`~seen dlynes_`
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`03:13.51`	`techman97_andy`	`np goldenear - good luck.`
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`03:31.37`	`Agrajag-`	`g'day. how do i get asterisk to forward SIP calls that aren't for it's domain to wherever is required?`
`03:32.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:33.04`	`Agrajag-`	`hmm ok i'll look whatever SER is up then, ta`
`03:33.32`	`camelon`	`voce va in bora!`
`03:34.56`	`batphone`	`hmm`
`03:35.06`	`batphone`	`ive never had to use ser`
`03:35.12`	`batphone`	`or stun`
`03:35.20`	`batphone`	`or anything but gentoo ;P`
`03:35.27`	`batphone`	`not that im a huge fan of gentoo`
`03:35.33`	`batphone`	`i like fbsd`
`03:35.42`	`batphone`	`but hey, you can't win 'em all`
`03:35.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:35.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`There!`
`03:35.57`	`batphone`	`yessir`
`03:36.04`	`batphone`	`im on one now`
`03:36.14`	`batphone`	`slack 7.0 kept current ;)`
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`03:36.26`	`batphone`	`3 LCD's`
`03:36.30`	`robl^`	`SCO Caldera OpenLinux, the only non-GPLed Linux! ;-)`
`03:36.33`	`batphone`	`fluxbox.. mmm`
`03:36.35`	`batphone`	`home sweet home`
`03:36.48`	`batphone`	`get this..`
`03:36.48`	`Agrajag-`	`hmm ok i just want to make sure SER is what i need - at the moment i have users on my network able to register/make calls to eachother with asterisk using sip. if i want users to be able to, say, call sip:foo@ekiga.net, or any other sip: address, i need to be using SER instead?`
`03:37.03`	`batphone`	`calder is the only distro i could find that would boot this old compaq proliant i found`
`03:37.09`	`batphone`	`this thing was the size of a small filing cabinet`
`03:37.16`	`batphone`	`caldera ... 2.1 or so`
`03:37.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Agrajag- : No for that you just need a Dial statement formatted properly.`
`03:37.33`	`*** part/#asterisk robl^ (n=robl@dsl093-025-218.hou1.dsl.speakeasy.net)`
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`03:37.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Agrajag- : Dial(SIP/whoever@somedomain.tld)`
`03:37.51`	`Agrajag-`	`[TK]D-Fender: oh ok. what sort of format is that then? i can't find a examples of this anywhere`
`03:37.59`	`*** part/#asterisk robl^ (n=robl@dsl093-025-218.hou1.dsl.speakeasy.net)`
`03:38.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Agrajag- : Here, try to call me if you will : Dial(andrew@aocomputing.cjb.net)`
`03:38.26`	`*** join/#asterisk robl^ (n=robl@dsl093-025-218.hou1.dsl.speakeasy.net)`
`03:38.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`err almost`
`03:38.36`	`Agrajag-`	`[TK]D-Fender: so i need to add a dial command for every external user internal users might want to call?`
`03:38.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Dial(SIP/andrew@aocomputing.cjb.net)`
`03:38.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`better :)`
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`03:39.09`	`Agrajag-`	`hmmm... ok i guess i can do that for now, i only have a couple of contacts`
`03:39.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Agrajag- : Well.. I'm not sure how to accept a URI in an EXTEN, so tahts te only way I know how.`
`03:39.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Agrajag- : Thats what I do here.`
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`03:39.39`	`Agrajag-`	`ok, thanks :)`
`03:40.19`	`techman97_andy`	`hey all - quick question - this is probably in the WIKI, but I don't know what it's called....so even giving me the right term will be OK. I want to have a call come into my * box and ring multiple phones at once - is that a special application - or is that just something I can define in the dialplan?`
`03:40.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`techman97_andy : DIAL`
`03:40.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`techman97_andy : Dial(SIP/1&SIP/2&SIP/3,30)`
`03:40.54`	`camelon`	`callgroup`
`03:41.03`	`robl^`	`techman97_andy: Dial(SIP/phone1&SIP/phone2)`
`03:41.05`	`camelon`	`pickup group`
`03:41.08`	`techman97_andy`	`gotcha - thanks again everyone`
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`03:43.14`	`batphone`	`Agrajag-: man i love this stuff`
`03:43.24`	`batphone`	`look... 154 active channels on a celeron`
`03:43.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`...`
`03:43.31`	`batphone`	`uptime`
`03:43.32`	`batphone`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:43.32`	`Damin`	`I've decided that from now on, I will only use GNU Hurd.`
`03:43.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"ring?`
`03:43.36`	`Damin`	`;)`
`03:43.53`	`batphone`	`Damin: gonna write your own kernel?`
`03:44.06`	`Agrajag-`	`[TK]D-Fender: hmm i was ringing you.. i think.. not sure if it was working`
`03:44.23`	`batphone`	`cat /etc/asterisk/extensions.conf\|wc -l`
`03:44.24`	`batphone`	`697`
`03:44.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Agrajag- : I heard you, staticy phone.`
`03:44.28`	`batphone`	`lol`
`03:44.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`no audio back to you it seems though.`
`03:44.35`	`Agrajag-`	`[TK]D-Fender: ah.. i couldn't hear anything`
`03:44.49`	`batphone`	`haha heeeere we go`
`03:44.56`	`batphone`	`rtp nat traversal`
`03:45.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Agrajag- :You're side, sorry... Mines well tested :)`
`03:45.06`	`Agrajag-`	`[TK]D-Fender: yeah i figured :)`
`03:46.12`	`batphone`	`man, we have this one customer that wants us to configure this windows box with call recording/listening software`
`03:46.41`	`batphone`	`doesnt asterisk have all this down already?`
`03:46.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`batphone : CFDISK ;)`
`03:47.07`	`batphone`	`like, dial some exten => and it like picks up in the middle of some ongoing call`
`03:47.19`	`batphone`	`chan_spy zap_barge something_or_other`
`03:47.29`	`batphone`	`cfdisk?`
`03:47.37`	`Damin`	`batphone: You made reference several hours back to running multiple TE405 cards in a single PC and claimed that you had a motherboard that would support it.. I asked what motherboard it was, and I don't think you ever responded. Care to share the info?`
`03:47.47`	`batphone`	`ah`
`03:47.58`	`batphone`	`PDSMA from SUPERMICRO man`
`03:48.00`	`Damin`	`batphone: I'm looking to consolidate a MAX w/ 16 T1 channels now..`
`03:48.03`	`batphone`	`get'em while theyre hot`
`03:48.09`	`batphone`	`7 pci slots`
`03:48.15`	`batphone`	`4 of which are 5 volt`
`03:48.24`	`batphone`	`1 64 bit works with any digium card to`
`03:48.28`	`batphone`	`and a pci express`
`03:48.31`	`batphone`	`pentium D`
`03:48.57`	`batphone`	`be nice if digium could put a ds3 in that pci express man..`
`03:49.05`	`batphone`	`we would order those by the hundred`
`03:49.13`	`Damin`	`Are all five of the 5v slots on the same PCI bus?`
`03:49.24`	`batphone`	`nope`
`03:49.30`	`batphone`	`hang on`
`03:49.56`	`batphone`	`er maybe heh`
`03:50.10`	`batphone`	`the one i can get to.. the thing is - they seem to have made revisions to the board`
`03:50.24`	`batphone`	`http://pastebin.com/716402`
`03:51.13`	`Damin`	`Ichh.. It's got an ICH-7R at the core and all five slots are on the same bus according to the user manual..`
`03:51.21`	`batphone`	`http://pastebin.com/716406`
`03:51.33`	`batphone`	`look at the NMI though`
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`03:51.59`	`batphone`	`it works well man`
`03:52.06`	`batphone`	`that box always has a hundred calls on it`
`03:52.17`	`batphone`	`its nowhere near maxed out`
`03:52.49`	`Damin`	`batphone: That's nothing. ;) I've got a couple of boxes that routinely handle 250+ calls.. 6-8 SIp call setups / second... :)`
`03:52.50`	`batphone`	`i tried doing this on a dual xeon`
`03:53.02`	`batphone`	`nice`
`03:53.13`	`batphone`	`this is an ongoing project`
`03:53.20`	`robl^`	`hrmm.. anyone know if sixtel or teliax support IAX trunking?`
`03:53.23`	`batphone`	`we are replacing a nortel option 81 with a few of these things`
`03:53.26`	`Damin`	`batphone: Alright.. so you are doing 100 calls on it.. all SIP/IAX to Zap?`
`03:53.36`	`batphone`	`no sip ... hehe`
`03:53.43`	`Damin`	`batphone: Any transcoding?`
`03:53.46`	`batphone`	`no transcoding, its from the call to the wall`
`03:53.54`	`Damin`	`batphone: Software echo can?`
`03:54.12`	`batphone`	`actually no, its not doing any echo cancellation`
`03:54.22`	`Damin`	`batphone: So you basically are just using it as a PRI switch?`
`03:54.39`	`batphone`	`its an IVR`
`03:54.49`	`batphone`	`for like, road side assistance and stuff`
`03:54.55`	`batphone`	`huge call center, 500 seats`
`03:55.15`	`Damin`	`And how many digium cards are you running in it?`
`03:55.18`	`batphone`	`4`
`03:55.24`	`Damin`	`16 PRI..`
`03:55.27`	`batphone`	`they are not all getting used`
`03:55.27`	`Damin`	`100 calls..`
`03:55.27`	`batphone`	`yes`
`03:55.33`	`batphone`	`its nothing, i know`
`03:55.42`	`Damin`	`That's 1/4 of the channels..`
`03:55.45`	`batphone`	`yep`
`03:56.01`	`batphone`	`we are moving more and more traffic onto it`
`03:56.03`	`Damin`	`batphone: If you were full, I think the shit would hit the fan on that.. :)`
`03:56.11`	`batphone`	`maybe`
`03:56.22`	`batphone`	`it carries no load`
`03:56.30`	`Damin`	`batphone: I'd be worried about interrupt handling. The bus and the processor could handle it..`
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`03:57.12`	`batphone`	`dont get me started..`
`03:57.28`	`Damin`	`batphone: When you are doing Zap to Zap bridging like that, it's virtually no load on the box, but you need to be generating about 4096 interrupts / second on that single PCI bus to synch everything..`
`03:57.31`	`batphone`	`i have my opinions about it, but i also have faith`
`03:58.28`	`Damin`	`batphone: You should setup a dialplan that allows you to bridge all the channels together.. call in, back out, back in etc.. until you get to the last available channel. Then play Music On Hold for a couple of hours and see how it holds up! ;)`
`03:58.30`	`batphone`	`so you are telling me that when it gets to maybe 2/3 of the call capacity on the lines that the kernel is going to die or something/`
`03:58.46`	`batphone`	`there we go`
`03:59.27`	`batphone`	`i have one i can blow up`
`03:59.36`	`Damin`	`batphone: Well, the box is right now handling the interrupts.. but I'd run zttest on it and see if you miss any interrupts..`
`04:00.04`	`batphone`	`100% all the way`
`04:00.11`	`batphone`	`on THIS one`
`04:00.16`	`batphone`	`now theres one that ive had trouble with`
`04:00.32`	`batphone`	`but when i was imaging it i got a complaint about the clock on the mobo`
`04:00.45`	`batphone`	`99.987793%`
`04:00.47`	`batphone`	`missed some`
`04:01.01`	`Damin`	`batphone: I get that consistently...`
`04:01.33`	`Damin`	`batphone: I never go below 99.987793% and sometimes hit 100%...`
`04:01.34`	`batphone`	`http://pastebin.com/716410`
`04:01.51`	`batphone`	`the bios has a little bit of handling on the pci bus you can do, like minimum latency per slot and bus master designation`
`04:02.27`	`batphone`	`ive let it run all night before, about every 100th tick or so it hits that 99%`
`04:02.31`	`batphone`	`but the rest is 100%`
`04:02.42`	`Damin`	`batphone: That's pretty impressive still.. Looks like the cards split their affinity for the CPU interrupts..`
`04:02.59`	`batphone`	`Damin: i did extensive work on compiling that kernel and zaptel`
`04:03.10`	`batphone`	`Damin: i wont lie, it took me about 3 days to get 100% like that`
`04:03.18`	`batphone`	`learned alot`
`04:03.24`	`Damin`	`batphone: Yeah? What did you tweak? :)`
`04:03.44`	`batphone`	`well basically i read up on how the rtc works, im no electrical engineer, just a linux guy`
`04:03.54`	`batphone`	`.. its a gentoo box`
`04:03.57`	`batphone`	`i put stage 3 on it`
`04:04.10`	`batphone`	`then went back and set up the emt64 optimizations for gcc`
`04:04.27`	`batphone`	`namely -03 and make options -j3`
`04:04.39`	`batphone`	`ah`
`04:04.40`	`batphone`	`and this`
`04:04.48`	`batphone`	`the clock frequency can be set in the kernel`
`04:04.54`	`batphone`	`i used the lowest setting possbile. 100hz`
`04:05.05`	`xanderp`	`is the asterisk2pstn .015/min rate for incoming and outgoing both?`
`04:05.25`	`batphone`	`that kicked the 100% after i built zaptel with rtc support and -02 and no -j option`
`04:05.28`	`Damin`	`batphone: What kernel version?`
`04:05.30`	`batphone`	`to make the code more stable`
`04:05.33`	`batphone`	`2.6.16`
`04:05.37`	`robl^`	`grr... I copied a config file from one server to another... and now SIP is telling me there is a username/auth name mismatch`
`04:05.44`	`Damin`	`batphone: Wow.. you like living on the edge..`
`04:06.02`	`batphone`	`its what i get paid to do. there is no documentation on the stuff i do at work`
`04:06.06`	`batphone`	`;D`
`04:06.19`	`Damin`	`robl^: Probably a wacky extra space or character somewhere in the file.`
`04:06.35`	`batphone`	`i 20 servers to image in the next week. all 64 bit boxes with 3 fxo cards in each one and 2 for the main office`
`04:06.43`	`batphone`	`the main office will have 6 t1`
`04:06.54`	`batphone`	`and 2 boxen, 1 for failover`
`04:07.05`	`batphone`	`it will also be a vpn/firewall/gateway for the entire company`
`04:07.14`	`Damin`	`batphone: Who do you work for?`
`04:07.21`	`batphone`	`telechoice man`
`04:07.29`	`Agrajag-`	`[TK]D-Fender: hmm i had no trouble calling you, but when trying to call anything@ekiga.net i always get 480 Offline, but i know they're registered/available. any idea what might be causing this?`
`04:07.44`	`batphone`	`i run openvpn all over the country and have nat=no four digit dialing to new york`
`04:08.10`	`Damin`	`batphone: Cool..`
`04:08.36`	`batphone`	`asterisk kicks ass man... i just wish that there were more hireable people`
`04:08.43`	`Damin`	`batphone: I've been using the following boxes http://www.gtweb.net/gt637.html`
`04:09.03`	`batphone`	`sweet`
`04:09.06`	`Damin`	`batphone: We slap a TE405 in it, drop a Centos 4.3 based image on it and off we go..`
`04:09.27`	`Damin`	`batphone: It'll handle transcoding a full TE405 card..`
`04:09.30`	`batphone`	`we had some company out of hong kong put together a 1U for us that has no moving parts and handles 20 phones`
`04:09.59`	`Damin`	`batphone: Although we are testing a Pentium D based system from Ciar-tech this week, which has double the ram and a Dual core CPU on it for the same price..`
`04:10.07`	`batphone`	`nice`
`04:10.12`	`batphone`	`those pentium D's are not bad`
`04:10.23`	`Damin`	`batphone: They certainly aren't Opterons though.. ;)`
`04:10.25`	`batphone`	`i enjoy working on them, except we didnt spring for the hyperthreading one`
`04:10.33`	`batphone`	`too true hahaha`
`04:10.56`	`robl^`	`ok.. you know its a long night when you forget to do a SIP RELOAD ;-)`
`04:10.59`	`batphone`	`we are looking forward to owning a big chunk of voipland man... asterisk clustering and big pipes`
`04:11.06`	`batphone`	`but right now we are facilities based`
`04:11.24`	`Damin`	`batphone: best of luck. :)`
`04:11.28`	`batphone`	`always looking for friends too`
`04:12.02`	`Damin`	`batphone: What are you attempting to do? Termination? IVR hosting? Services?...`
`04:12.05`	`batphone`	`this whole internet traffic tiering thing hasnt been phasing us because we haul in those companies that want the tiering, like SBC and ATT`
`04:12.15`	`batphone`	`Damin: i dont know where the boss wants it to end up`
`04:12.40`	`batphone`	`but with the start we have we are geared to take over almost every aspect of communication in a given business regardless of size`
`04:12.46`	`Damin`	`batphone: Personally, I think doing large scale termination over the public internet is retarded.`
`04:13.08`	`batphone`	`yeah i can only agree there but you have to compete with people on some level eventually`
`04:13.22`	`Damin`	`batphone: I can run DS1 or DS3 circuits to virtually every corner of the US48 at ridiculous prices..`
`04:13.23`	`batphone`	`thats my only thought on the reasoning behind becoming some kind of CLEC`
`04:13.47`	`Damin`	`batphone: becoming a CLEC is too much of a hassle and not enough benefit..`
`04:14.00`	`Damin`	`batphone: I can get carrier pricing w/out it..`
`04:14.01`	`batphone`	`Damin: maybe not but like you said, if you got cheap pipes why not`
`04:14.17`	`batphone`	`pay some dude with a huge brain $150,000 a year to run a NOC and make a million`
`04:14.42`	`Damin`	`batphone: Yeah.. it's that easy! ;)`
`04:14.54`	`Damin`	`batphone: If it was, everyone would be a CLEC. ;)`
`04:15.35`	`coppice`	`but telcos are so poor. how could they afford $150,000 for just one person? :-)`
`04:16.02`	`Damin`	`batphone: I've been in business 11 years... thought about becoming a CLEC.. investigated it quite thoroughly, but have been able to get everything I need w/out the hassle or paperwork..`
`04:16.03`	`batphone`	`i know, but dealing with these pissant carriers and having to wait 45 days for a number to port is just the way things are`
`04:16.10`	`batphone`	`until this is all ip based we are in for a long fight`
`04:16.25`	`batphone`	`eventually somebody somewhere has to make the jump`
`04:16.54`	`Damin`	`batphone: And you are just the guy to do it! :) Lead the revolution! :)`
`04:16.59`	`batphone`	`Damin: sounds good. ive been doing this about 8 months and i hate carrier bs`
`04:17.02`	`batphone`	`haha...`
`04:17.13`	`Damin`	`batphone: Hows this for carrier idiocy...`
`04:17.16`	`batphone`	`it should not take 8 hours to turn up a T1`
`04:17.31`	`batphone`	`haha try me...`
`04:18.26`	`xanderp`	`crap, can't port my number to broadvoice... other suggestions? I use about 400min incoming and 650min outgoing minutes a month...`
`04:18.38`	`Damin`	`We scheduled a re-organization of a couple of PRI hunt groups w/ X/O about 90 days ago. We called and got confirmation for 6:00 PM yesterday. They called us at 5:00 PM and confirmed. We were instructed (per usual) to call the Cut desk at 6:00 and provide our information..`
`04:19.10`	`batphone`	`haha XO speak of the devil.. what happened?`
`04:19.21`	`coppice`	`the weirdest thng with telco is that in places where they lost their monopoly 20 years ago, the younger people still have a monpoly attitude. it must really filter down the line very strongly`
`04:19.31`	`Damin`	`We were on hold for 3 hours, until at 9 PM, their voicemail kicked in informing us that the Cut desk had closed for the night and promptly hung up on us..`
`04:19.44`	`batphone`	`ahahaha... wow`
`04:19.47`	`batphone`	`sweet`
`04:20.05`	`xanderp`	`what pisses me off is the 45 days to install a T1 for my WAN ckts.`
`04:20.24`	`xanderp`	`should take like a week`
`04:20.37`	`Damin`	`batphone: On monday morning, at 9:00 AM I'll be sitting in the X/O customer service office looking for someone to accept my foot into their ass..`
`04:20.58`	`Damin`	`xanderp: Best time I've ever got on a turnup was 6 days.`
`04:21.22`	`xanderp`	`for an internet T yes? I'm talking about an MPLS ckt`
`04:21.45`	`batphone`	`i like this one... once we were waiting on XO to work out n2 on a pri so we could have a functional caller id, they were all but refusing to do n2. my boss had like 3 of their asshole techs in a conference and said "hey fellas hang on while i go get authorization to switch carriers real quick"`
`04:21.58`	`batphone`	`it took them about 2 minutes to get the damn name and number lined up on their end`
`04:22.38`	`batphone`	`its amazing what you have to do to get something done, i mean these old grumbly companies take their sweet time like you are at the only gas station for 400 miles on E`
`04:23.15`	`xanderp`	`and the answer is "sorry, we're regulated, and that's just how it is"`
`04:23.23`	`xanderp`	`crap`
`04:23.31`	`robl^`	`woot! all my IAX2 and SIP accounts/devices are all talking nicely to my new box.. all soundfiles are copied.. now just some tweaks...`
`04:24.03`	`batphone`	`we are doing some stuff with click to call for a few customers`
`04:24.03`	`Damin`	`batphone: Hehehe.. everytime they turn up a PRI for us.. EVERY TIME, we have to inform them that they are sending us 13 digits for the phone number. They always end up fucking up their routing such that they prepend the AC the PRI is in (216) to the 10 digit number, so we end up with 216-440-526-6182 and they just DO NOT UNDERSTAND why that is such a problem until I ask them to dial that number. :)`
`04:24.06`	`batphone`	`the whole LAMP thing`
`04:24.47`	`Qwell`	`You typo to yourself?`
`04:25.02`	`robl^`	`yeah. ;-)`
`04:25.07`	`batphone`	`Damin: im relatively new at the carrier circus, but im getting to see alot in Houston`
`04:25.15`	`denon`	`no wonder he's not productive .. nothing compiles when it's typo'd`
`04:25.20`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`circus is a good name for it`
`04:25.39`	`xanderp`	`at&t sucks, sbc sucks, sprint sucks, verizon sucks... etc... etc... etc...`
`04:25.41`	`batphone`	`how about, ALAMP, asterisk linux apache mysql php`
`04:25.50`	`Damin`	`Yeah.. it is absolutely mind numbing how stupid the carriers really are..`
`04:25.51`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`xanderp, they all do.. doesn't matter`
`04:25.53`	`batphone`	`xanderp: ever had to use schlumberger?`
`04:26.00`	`xanderp`	`where is that?`
`04:26.13`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`we are STILL trying to get our new ds3 up...`
`04:26.17`	`batphone`	`xanderp: youll be banging on the door at ATT sliding money under it`
`04:26.24`	`batphone`	`its a norwegian ISP`
`04:26.25`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`this is months now of finger pointing....`
`04:26.35`	`xanderp`	`batphone: ahh...`
`04:26.37`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`<sigh>`
`04:26.37`	`Damin`	`batphone: I recently did a presentaiton at NOTACON titled "How the ILECS have F*CKED up the ISP industry" :)`
`04:26.57`	`batphone`	`schlumberger has this huge AS number with like the entire 69.92.0.0 network NAT'ed internally so you cant access any of it`
`04:27.00`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`Damin, we need to hang soon.....`
`04:27.02`	`Damin`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: Is this the DS3 in LA?`
`04:27.10`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`no... out east`
`04:27.18`	`Damin`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: NY?`
`04:27.27`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`VA.`
`04:27.40`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`this one at least..`
`04:28.19`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I need somone to build a chanelized ds3 card so we can make an affordable DS3 drop and insert test set`
`04:28.27`	`xanderp`	`i've got friends that their housing edition provides internet on a sonnet ring to the neighborhood, but it's all NAT'ed, so they are screwed to use anything incoming.`
`04:28.50`	`Damin`	`xanderp: Not if they are using IAX they aren't...`
`04:29.03`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`There are many ways around nat....`
`04:29.15`	`xanderp`	`Damin: it setup an outbound session that connections ride in on?`
`04:29.20`	`Damin`	`xanderp: And have them all buy a dedicated server somewhere on the net for $99 / month and run IPsec tunnels to it.. route accross that.. :)`
`04:29.22`	`batphone`	`xanderp: that sucks, what are they gonna do with that sonet then?`
`04:29.22`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`even REALLY screwey nat.. just takes some creativity`
`04:29.31`	`batphone`	`xanderp: hack each other at light speed?`
`04:30.00`	`Damin`	`xanderp: IAX2 doesn't care about NAT.`
`04:30.08`	`Damin`	`xanderp: It just "works" through it..`
`04:30.09`	`batphone`	`lol`
`04:30.15`	`batphone`	`1 port, hard to go wrong there`
`04:30.18`	`Damin`	`xanderp: One of the benefits of Asterisk.. ;)`
`04:30.21`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`Damin, that's not entirely true.. you need somthing it can register to on the net`
`04:30.28`	`xanderp`	`they get fast surfing, but inbound stuff is tricky for them.`
`04:30.56`	`Damin`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: Yeah.. a $99 dedicated server somwhere... :) IAX will hand off nicely.. :)`
`04:31.00`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`heh`
`04:31.02`	`xanderp`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: correct. they don't have public IP addresses...`
`04:31.02`	`batphone`	`Damin: do you know anyone who has anything to do with iaxy development?`
`04:31.18`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`you can do some fun stuff with jaberr too.....`
`04:31.28`	`Damin`	`batphone: Hmm.. let me think...`
`04:31.31`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`but that needs a jabber server on the net....`
`04:31.37`	`Damin`	`batphone: Would Mark Spencer count? :)`
`04:31.45`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`so one way or another... somthing needs a public ip.`
`04:31.47`	`batphone`	`Damin: we have had to move away from them because of reliability issues... it really sucks. the idea is cool and all but geez, we have to replace them alot man`
`04:32.00`	`batphone`	`i guess that counts`
`04:32.11`	`Damin`	`batphone: Yeah.. that's not the first I've heard of it. Check out Virbiage's IAX2 ATA..`
`04:32.32`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`or a sip ata w/ stun support`
`04:32.35`	`xanderp`	`now that i've done some math, I want to ditch vonage :(`
`04:32.42`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I think the sipuras do...`
`04:32.44`	`batphone`	`sipura makes some good ones`
`04:32.48`	`Damin`	`batphone: Not sure if those are better or not, but their firefly and cubix softphones rock...`
`04:33.02`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`ok.. late.. time to sleep.. nighty night...`
`04:33.06`	`Damin`	`batphone: Yeah, but sipuras don't make IAX2 based ones! ;)`
`04:33.18`	`batphone`	`yeah, these are sip`
`04:33.25`	`batphone`	`hence the name ;P`
`04:33.35`	`xanderp`	`i was ignorant and happy until i calculated my minutes at .015c/min and realized that i'm paying like 9 bucks a month too much!`
`04:33.37`	`batphone`	`we found some people that make these iax ata's you can telnet to`
`04:33.38`	`Nugget`	`telnet is eeeeeeevil!`
`04:33.39`	`Damin`	`batphone: http://www.virbiage.com/3010.php <- SIP + IAX2.`
`04:33.47`	`batphone`	`telnet`
`04:34.03`	`batphone`	`haha sweet`
`04:34.35`	`batphone`	`nice, it does g729`
`04:34.55`	`batphone`	`im out, im in trouble`
`04:35.00`	`Damin`	`batphone: Yup.. drank beer with those guys at the first Astricon.. they were a riot..`
`04:35.04`	`batphone`	`time to go pet my girlfriend`
`04:35.11`	`batphone`	`you guys have a good night`
`04:35.29`	`Damin`	`batphone: Uhh.. she's a dog?`
`04:36.03`	`Damin`	`Hey.. for those of you in the U.S.. don't forget.. today is Mother's DAY! (I'm EST, so it's technically tommorow for me!)`
`04:37.14`	`xanderp`	`so if i setup an asterisk box here at the house, I need an FXS card to give my phones dialtone and somebody to do PSTN connection for me, is that it?`
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`04:50.38`	`harlequin516`	`xanderp: you can always just install ASterisk and use Ethernet thoughout your house, with VOIP phones instead of FXS.`
`04:51.48`	`xanderp`	`harlequin516: what would be cheaper, 5-6 voip phones, or one FXS card?`
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`04:55.50`	`kbitter`	`hi all, this week I saw a very interesting * setup. There were a * machine between a pabx and the pstn. How that can be possible?`
`04:56.48`	`kbitter`	`the machine was doing all the routing to calls which goes to internet and comes from pstn.`
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`04:58.08`	`coppice`	`lots of people seem to be using * boxes in that way. why should i not be possible?`
`04:58.09`	`obanta`	`How is that not possible?`
`05:05.20`	`kbitter`	`sorry for the english, i would like to ask if you seen any doc which could explain this kind of setup?`
`05:05.44`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's called telecom hardware`
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`05:11.24`	`PakiPenguin_`	`morning`
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`05:18.11`	`kbitter`	`does anyone know where i can find a doc explaning how do i setup a * machine in a pstn-asterisk-pabx scenario?`
`05:18.32`	`kbitter`	`i'm searching google without success.`
`05:19.11`	`De_Mon`	`whats pabx?`
`05:21.07`	`De_Mon`	`oh, I see. Arnt all * installs world-*-pabx scenarios?`
`05:21.47`	`kbitter`	`de_mon: Anyone, i'm just trying to understand the setup i saw this week.`
`05:22.50`	`De_Mon`	`kbitter visited voip-info.org?`
`05:24.21`	`kbitter`	`de_mon: i'll be more specific. the * machine had a quad e1 interface. a e1 is conected to the pstn and the another is conected to the pabx.`
`05:24.48`	`xanderp`	`is *2pstn an outgoing service only? I don't see any info on their website about incoming phone numbers.`
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`05:25.31`	`De_Mon`	`kbitter asterisk uses 'contexts' to determine if a call is comming from inside(pabx) or outside(pstn)`
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`05:26.38`	`De_Mon`	`so the outside context would only give incomming calls access to, say autoattendent. and inside context has access to internal extensions, making outgoing calls etc`
`05:27.14`	`De_Mon`	`*attendant`
`05:27.33`	`kbitter`	`de_mon: do you know where i can find a doc to setup this contexts for a scenario like that?`
`05:28.18`	`De_Mon`	`voip-info.org and asteriskdocs.org both explain how to setup contexts for zaptel interfaces`
`05:28.26`	`kimosabe`	`has any one tried winasterisk`
`05:29.32`	`De_Mon`	`kbitter http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+config+zaptel.conf`
`05:29.51`	`salviadud`	`windows is not funky`
`05:29.55`	`De_Mon`	`I'm off to bed happy reading`
`05:31.07`	`kbitter`	`de_mon: thanks a lot. i searched a lot this site. it's a little confusing.`
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`05:40.03`	`kimosabe`	`i have aster win on my machine but i want 2 know how to config it for tdm400p`
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`05:43.14`	`coppice`	`has anyone actually produced windows drivers for the hardware cards?`
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`05:46.47`	`kimosabe`	`just trying it out this is the cenario i have an acount with selectfone but i have no sip devices i have x-lit already conected to this winaster know i want to config that acount from selectfone so that i can use it via xlite can some one help`
`05:50.28`	`dlynes_home`	`coppice: there's windows drivers for the sangoma cards`
`05:50.37`	`dlynes_home`	`but not for the digium cards, afaik`
`05:50.47`	`coppice`	`with zaptel support?`
`05:50.56`	`kimosabe`	`can some one help me get asterisk running ith selectfone`
`05:51.01`	`dlynes_home`	`nah...with wanpipes support`
`05:51.10`	`coppice`	`i think the sangoma cards only work as data cards under windows right now`
`05:53.26`	`kimosabe`	`does any one know how to config asterisk as sip client`
`06:00.30`	`dlynes_home`	`kimosabe: have you looked at the wiki page for sip.conf?`
`06:07.08`	`kimosabe`	`yes imm looking at wiki i have sip registered as client`
`06:07.25`	`kimosabe`	`i want 2 dial trhew xlite so that i can use pstn`
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`06:09.21`	`coppice`	`"Its mother's day, and you call your mother on a crappy VoIP phone? What kind of son are you?" :-)`
`06:09.46`	`chiaBORG`	`are configuration questions allowed here?`
`06:10.13`	`kimosabe`	`i shure hope so`
`06:10.40`	`coppice`	`only questions about the validity of questions are prohibited`
`06:11.17`	`kimosabe`	`apers as thugh my acount is regsitered i want 2 call via lite and use pstn`
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`06:12.15`	`chiaBORG`	`is there a way to prompt for a password before dial() to an extension and if it's the wrong password send to voicemail?`
`06:14.41`	`Altair256`	`You definitley could do it with an AGI`
`06:15.03`	`Altair256`	`not sure what the dialplan would look like if you did it all in extensions.conf though`
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`06:15.24`	`chiaBORG`	`I was hoping it was already achievable with builtin apps and extensions.conf`
`06:15.47`	`Altair256`	`hrm... possibly`
`06:16.20`	`Altair256`	`I've got a script that does something like that on my server...`
`06:16.25`	`Altair256`	`lemme take a look at it and see how it does it`
`06:16.34`	`chiaBORG`	`thank you kindly`
`06:17.58`	`Altair256`	`hrm`
`06:18.01`	`kimosabe`	`how can i enable g726 on x lite`
`06:18.37`	`Altair256`	`chiaBORG, looks like they made it look like a route... only goes through if it matches`
`06:18.46`	`Altair256`	`then you could make it time out and go to vm maybe?`
`06:19.00`	`kimosabe`	`how can i enable g729 on x lite can soe one help lease`
`06:19.20`	`{zombie}`	`you can't.. the "lite" means no g729`
`06:19.34`	`Altair256`	`he asked about g726`
`06:19.39`	`Altair256`	`which is basically in the same boat`
`06:19.41`	`kimosabe`	`also`
`06:19.42`	`{zombie}`	`not the second time`
`06:19.48`	`kimosabe`	`is there another soft client`
`06:19.58`	`{zombie}`	`you won't get any FREE soft clients with g729`
`06:20.08`	`{zombie}`	`since g729 is protected by patents, so the manufacturer has to pay money for each copy`
`06:20.11`	`kimosabe`	`is there a demo`
`06:20.12`	`{zombie}`	`so why would they give it to you for free?`
`06:20.18`	`Altair256`	`kimosabe, g729 costs lots of $$$ to license`
`06:20.19`	`kimosabe`	`tru e`
`06:20.27`	`Altair256`	`no free client will ever ever ever have it`
`06:20.28`	`{zombie}`	`pay for a licensed copy of eyeBeam`
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`06:20.38`	`chiaBORG`	`Altair256 : trying to interpret your response ;)`
`06:20.41`	`{zombie}`	`it's pretty good for a soft client`
`06:20.51`	`Altair256`	`chiaBORG, basically... in FreePBX, they have DISA`
`06:20.58`	`Altair256`	`you have to type a password`
`06:21.03`	`Altair256`	`was going to look and see how they processed that`
`06:21.48`	`{zombie}`	`exten => _X.,5,DISA(????,local)`
`06:21.49`	`Altair256`	`they also have PIN sets...`
`06:21.53`	`{zombie}`	`replace ??? with your password`
`06:21.56`	`chiaBORG`	`Altair256 : DISA is an acronym for?`
`06:22.14`	`{zombie}`	`Direct Inward System Access`
`06:22.24`	`Altair256`	`{zombie}'s got it`
`06:22.35`	`{zombie}`	`it presents a dial tone, lets you type a password, and then dial an extension`
`06:22.41`	`Altair256`	`but they also have some type of macro to process PIN sets for conferences`
`06:22.53`	`{zombie}`	`show application DISA`
`06:23.00`	`{zombie}`	`but reading back it doesn't appear to do what you want`
`06:23.06`	`{zombie}`	`you want it to ask for a password and then continue dialing, right?`
`06:23.10`	`{zombie}`	`without presenting a dial tone`
`06:23.16`	`Altair256`	`exten => 400,n(READPIN),Read(PIN,enter-conf-pin-number,,)`
`06:23.16`	`Altair256`	`exten => 400,n,GotoIf($[foo${PIN} = foo400]?USER)`
`06:23.16`	`Altair256`	`exten => 400,n,GotoIf($[${PIN} = 444]?ADMIN)`
`06:23.22`	`{zombie}`	`in which case you want Authenticate`
`06:23.31`	`{zombie}`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:23.39`	`Altair256`	`that's for their conferences`
`06:23.47`	`Altair256`	`that's similar to what you were talking about`
`06:24.16`	`chiaBORG`	`{zombie}: right.. only ring the set if they've authenticated`
`06:24.17`	`Altair256`	`have a password, then if password is one thing, go one way, or go another`
`06:24.20`	`Altair256`	`next two lines are :`
`06:24.21`	`Altair256`	`exten => 400,n,Playback(conf-invalidpin)`
`06:24.21`	`Altair256`	`exten => 400,n,Goto(READPIN)`
`06:24.51`	`Altair256`	`what does Authenticate do if user fails to enter, or enters invalid?`
`06:25.02`	`chiaBORG`	`more detail: this method would only apply to those incoming analog calls`
`06:25.12`	`{zombie}`	`Returns 0 if the user enters a valid password within three`
`06:25.12`	`{zombie}`	`tries, or -1 otherwise (or on hangup)`
`06:25.51`	`Altair256`	`so you could just put the autheticate inside a gotoif`
`06:26.01`	`Altair256`	`yes?`
`06:26.25`	`Altair256`	`with success going to real extension, and failure going straight to VM`
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`06:26.54`	`chiaBORG`	`Altair256 : is your question directed at me or zombie?`
`06:27.07`	`Altair256`	`{zombie}`
`06:27.53`	`{zombie}`	`I don't think you can run commands from within a GotoIf statement`
`06:28.18`	`Altair256`	`if exten => s,n,GotoIf(Authenticate(mypassword)?label1:label2)`
`06:28.21`	`Altair256`	`hrm`
`06:28.46`	`Altair256`	`so you would have to make a var, then do a gotoif based on the var?`
`06:29.28`	`chiaBORG`	`.`
`06:31.30`	`Altair256`	`exten => s,n,SetVar(Authenticate(mypassword) = auth)`
`06:32.55`	`Altair256`	`exten => s,n,GotoIf($["${auth}" = "0"]?label1:label2)`
`06:33.24`	`Altair256`	`that's in the form of a question. I'm still learning how dialplans actually work`
`06:34.04`	`{zombie}`	`I've never actually used the return status for anything, so I'm trying to find out the answer to that question myself`
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`06:35.11`	`Qwell`	`Altair256: That won't work that way, heh`
`06:35.23`	`Altair256`	`ty for responding Qwell :)`
`06:35.53`	`Qwell`	`It should return a var, but I don't see one..`
`06:36.01`	`Qwell`	`rather, not return, but set`
`06:36.05`	`Altair256`	`http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/authenticate.html`
`06:36.15`	`Qwell`	`That's...umm..odd`
`06:36.25`	`Altair256`	`the second putty window shows an example dialplan`
`06:36.31`	`Altair256`	`might be similar to what chiaBORG is looking for`
`06:37.22`	`Qwell`	`oh, I see, okay`
`06:37.33`	`Altair256`	`but instead of hanging up, you'd want to send to the VM of the extension dialed`
`06:37.33`	`Qwell`	`It'll simply hangup the channel if it fails`
`06:37.53`	`Altair256`	`it uses the predefined extensions t, and i`
`06:39.57`	`{zombie}`	`in that case maybe it'd be easier to write your own using Read()`
`06:40.22`	`{zombie}`	`use Read to set a variable, and GotoIf to check it`
`06:44.02`	`chiaBORG`	`I can see I have much to learn`
`06:44.33`	`PakiPenguin`	`how can i increase the call volume ( if the call is sip all the way )`
`06:45.57`	`chiaBORG`	`{zombie}, Altair256 : If you dont mind check out EXAMPLE 3 here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+GotoIf`
`06:46.23`	`chiaBORG`	`rather than making them press 1 couldnt one do an authenticate() ?`
`06:46.55`	`chiaBORG`	`or more specifically call another context`
`06:47.09`	`chiaBORG`	`that contains authenticate`
`06:48.38`	`Altair256`	`this would be my idea: http://pastebin.ca/55707`
`06:48.41`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: just place more simultaneous calls`
`06:48.44`	`Altair256`	`someone else needs to check it though`
`06:49.12`	`PakiPenguin`	`audio volume i mean`
`06:49.13`	`PakiPenguin`	`:)`
`06:49.16`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: oh..you meant amplitude :)`
`06:49.33`	`PakiPenguin`	`yup`
`06:49.50`	`Altair256`	`Qwell, and {zombie} .. mind checking my pastebin idea? Will it work?`
`06:50.10`	`PakiPenguin`	`dlynes_home, any idea on that?`
`06:50.17`	`SheriF_WorK`	`PakiPenguin: ur everywhere !?:P?`
`06:50.44`	`PakiPenguin`	`SheriF_WorK, lol`
`06:51.06`	`SheriF_WorK`	`i'm still having this nating issue i'll install STUN server and see what will happen ..`
`06:51.32`	`SheriF_WorK`	`when i install STUN server it has nothing to do with asterisk ?`
`06:51.33`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: no idea, offhand`
`06:51.36`	`{zombie}`	`Altair256: I don't think that will work, because the i(nvalid) context isn't reached because someone typed an invalid password`
`06:51.42`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: other than adjusting the volume on your sip handset`
`06:51.51`	`{zombie}`	`it is reached when someone selects an invalid option in the IVR that precedes the Authenticate`
`06:51.53`	`{zombie}`	`in the example you used`
`06:52.06`	`PakiPenguin`	`dlynes_home, the call is like this pstn -> ss7 -> asterisk -> sip -> asterisk -> sip -> PSTN\`
`06:52.12`	`Altair256`	`based on what I read at http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/authenticate.html I assumed it did... hrm`
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`06:52.40`	`{zombie}`	`Altair256: "The first extension says to Asterisk PBX to answer the call. Then a welcome message will be played. The message will tell the caller that if he/she dials 1, he/she will be connected to the user user2, if he /she dials 2, will hear a music and if he/she dials 3, the call will be transfer to the private section of the IVR menu, where an authentication is required."`
`06:53.00`	`{zombie}`	`that's the IVR they get when they first call.. invalid or timeout at that point goes to i or t respectively`
`06:53.07`	`{zombie}`	`if they push 3 then they will need a password`
`06:53.15`	`Altair256`	`and if they fail the password?`
`06:53.23`	`{zombie}`	`it hangs up, as Qwell said.`
`06:53.32`	`Altair256`	`ah dang -.-`
`06:53.50`	`{zombie}`	`so as I said, you need to use something like Read if you want to be more flexible`
`06:53.51`	`Altair256`	`I see what he meant now`
`06:54.02`	`Altair256`	`I thought he meant it would hangup because in that example it hangsup`
`06:54.03`	`{zombie}`	`read a password into a variable, and then check if it matches the password`
`06:54.13`	`Altair256`	`but it also says goodbye for invalid during the main IVR`
`06:54.25`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: thought you said it was sip all the way?`
`06:54.25`	`Altair256`	`gotcha`
`06:54.38`	`Altair256`	`man... there is just so much to learn :)`
`06:54.52`	`PakiPenguin`	`dlynes_home, techincally it is :D`
`06:55.00`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: technically, it is not`
`06:55.15`	`dlynes_home`	`It starts out pstn, and ends out pstn`
`06:55.33`	`PakiPenguin`	`but , its all sip for me`
`06:55.37`	`PakiPenguin`	`i mena i am in the middle`
`06:55.39`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: What kind of hardware are you using on the pstn ends?`
`06:55.55`	`PakiPenguin`	`pots line , other end is a cellphone`
`06:56.18`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: i said hardware, not type of line...it's obvious it's a pots line, when you called it pstn`
`06:56.24`	`PakiPenguin`	`hehe`
`06:56.38`	`dlynes_home`	`well?`
`06:56.41`	`PakiPenguin`	`dlynes_home, normal cordless phone :)`
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`06:56.58`	`PakiPenguin`	`nothing else , hardware on both ends in * server is sangoma`
`06:57.10`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: normal cordless phone is not a pstn line`
`06:57.10`	`PakiPenguin`	`e1 on one send and t1 on the other`
`06:57.14`	`PakiPenguin`	`:)`
`06:57.19`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: phones do not provide dial tone`
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`06:57.42`	`PakiPenguin`	`but i dont have control over the sangomas :(`
`06:57.45`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: you're still telling me line types`
`06:57.54`	`dlynes_home`	`what the hell is hooked up to the t1 and the e1?`
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`06:58.28`	`PakiPenguin`	`oh :) a siemens switch on one end ( e1 ) and on the other end i dont know :)`
`06:58.31`	`dlynes_home`	`ok, so sangoma cards`
`06:58.52`	`dlynes_home`	`now you're using the zaptel drivers on the sangoma cards?`
`06:59.18`	`PakiPenguin`	`wanpipe , installed it using the sangoma wiki`
`06:59.32`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: and does wanpipe have gain controls?`
`07:00.13`	`PakiPenguin`	`that i dont kno`
`07:00.13`	`PakiPenguin`	`w`
`07:00.19`	`jsgotangco`	`hi guys`
`07:00.28`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: I think you should find out`
`07:00.43`	`jsgotangco`	`im very much a n00b here, but i would like to ask a very dumb question, can asterisk use an Acculab card???`
`07:00.45`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: that would be where your volume is probably petering out...your gain control probably isn't set high enough`
`07:00.55`	`chiaBORG`	`your help is appreciated`
`07:00.59`	`dlynes_home`	`jsgotangco: what's an acculab card?`
`07:01.15`	`PakiPenguin`	`i see`
`07:02.44`	`PakiPenguin`	`thanks dlynes_home i will ask my provider to set it up`
`07:02.50`	`jsgotangco`	`its also an interface card, but its more popular in windows systems we have 2 at work used for IVR with Vasic`
`07:03.11`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: you don't have control over the sangoma cards?`
`07:03.19`	`PakiPenguin`	`nope :(`
`07:03.25`	`coppice`	`dlynes: an aculab card + bad spelling I guess :-)`
`07:03.29`	`dlynes_home`	`PakiPenguin: what do you have control over?`
`07:03.49`	`dlynes_home`	`coppice: yeah...still never heard of it...but then again, i haven't been dealing with voip for very long, either`
`07:04.10`	`dlynes_home`	`coppice: my boss has probably heard of it, but he's been in the interconnect business for five years now`
`07:04.12`	`jsgotangco`	`sorry that's aculab correct`
`07:04.18`	`coppice`	`aculab is a major maker of telephony hardware for PCs`
`07:04.20`	`PakiPenguin`	`calls from sangoma come over to me over sip and i send them out using another sip trunk`
`07:04.27`	`PakiPenguin`	`like i said i am in the middle`
`07:04.58`	`jsgotangco`	`right not to mention dead expensive :x`
`07:06.17`	`websae`	`sip trunks are great`
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`07:06.44`	`littleball`	`hello, any one can recommend a soft sip phone with g729 supported?`
`07:08.51`	`Altair256`	`eyeBeam from CounterPath probably has g729 support`
`07:09.06`	`Altair256`	`any soft phone that supports g729 will not be free`
`07:09.54`	`dlynes_home`	`littleball: I think there's also a commercial version of the snom360 softphone available from snom that would have g729 support as well (the free version does not): www.snom.de`
`07:10.23`	`littleball`	`i want to a free one which support g729. and confirm the quality`
`07:10.46`	`Altair256`	`there is no such thing littleball`
`07:10.56`	`Altair256`	`g729 requires licensing that costs lots of $$$`
`07:10.57`	`littleball`	`ok. i understnd now`
`07:11.09`	`Altair256`	`there is no soft sip phone that will ever support g729`
`07:11.15`	`Altair256`	`rather... no FREE soft sip phone`
`07:11.20`	`littleball`	`so, it should be very good. right?`
`07:11.32`	`Altair256`	`other codecs can get very close`
`07:11.57`	`coppice`	`there are better codecs than G.729`
`07:12.15`	`littleball`	`coppice, which one is better than g729?`
`07:12.22`	`coppice`	`G.729 is needed for compatibility rather than quality`
`07:12.33`	`coppice`	`AMR is certainly better than G.729`
`07:12.53`	`coppice`	`and AMR is far more flexible`
`07:13.01`	`Altair256`	`Speex is very flexible`
`07:13.13`	`Altair256`	`GSM is good, and free`
`07:13.19`	`Altair256`	`but not all phones support it.`
`07:13.21`	`coppice`	`yeah. AMR and speex are the two flexible choices`
`07:14.00`	`Altair256`	`anything is better than g711 (uLaw and aLaw) when it comes to bandwidth use`
`07:14.13`	`coppice`	`they both do adaptive VBR and can nest narrow band within wideband. codecs that can't do that will not survive long term, so G.729 is a short term solution`
`07:15.26`	`coppice`	`the problem is the voip market is still trying its hardest to sell $200 phones that are less capable than a $1 analogue phone`
`07:18.00`	`jsgotangco`	`that's true`
`07:18.45`	`SheriF_WorK`	`i have problems with STUN still not working ...`
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`07:28.50`	`rajiv`	`what happened to SIPAddHeader() ?`
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`07:32.43`	`docelm0`	`say if anyone has time check out this page and tell me if these rates are competitive..`
`07:32.45`	`docelm0`	`http://www.plainvoip.com/?page=showrates`
`07:32.48`	`rajiv`	`even SIPADDHEADER doesn't exist in the 1.0.10 branch`
`07:35.00`	`rajiv`	`docelm0: getting boston did any time soon? 617 area code`
`07:35.23`	`rajiv`	`rates seem fine for where i call (us and germany)`
`07:38.53`	`Altair256`	`anyone willing to look at a piece of MySQL code and tell me why the first table is getting made, but the second one isn't? http://pastebin.ca/55726`
`07:43.16`	`docelm0`	`Getting a whole bunch.. I am working on the module today for the DID portion of Plainvoip. We will have some toll free's tomorrow also`
`07:43.57`	`denon`	`docelm0: you work for plainvoip?`
`07:44.00`	`denon`	`or you're reselling it?`
`07:44.50`	`docelm0`	`Its my brain child.. I coded it. :)`
`07:45.25`	`docelm0`	`I actually consult for a company called Ezzi Telecom, Inc out of NYC. Plainvoip is a subsidary of their company.`
`07:46.28`	`denon`	`so you're to blame for the typos on the services page?`
`07:46.31`	`denon`	`:)`
`07:46.38`	`docelm0`	`probably..`
`07:46.47`	`docelm0`	`I tend to work when I am half asleep`
`07:46.50`	`coppice`	`no, the education system is to blame for that :-)`
`07:47.06`	`coppice`	`or is it canda? :-)`
`07:47.15`	`denon`	`"..domestic and Internation termination .."`
`07:47.24`	`denon`	`it's international, and it's not a proper noun..`
`07:47.43`	`docelm0`	`ok ok`
`07:47.47`	`denon`	`" will be adding nation wide DIDs " nationwide is a word ..`
`07:48.03`	`Qwell`	`maybe they're just really long DIDs?`
`07:48.06`	`docelm0`	`I also type 90 words a minute and make errors.. :) But the insite is good I will do fix it`
`07:48.09`	`Qwell`	`probably got hungry`
`07:48.24`	`denon`	`no room for typos in marketing materials ..`
`07:48.34`	`denon`	`"We can no longer offering a try before you buy serivce.`
`07:48.35`	`coppice`	`or honesty`
`07:48.35`	`denon`	`"`
`07:48.58`	`denon`	`should be 'We can no longer offer a "try before you buy" service.'`
`07:49.12`	`docelm0`	`ya..`
`07:49.28`	`docelm0`	`I messed up on a few things here and there`
`07:49.36`	`coppice`	`hum. all my floating point code compiled with GCC 4.1 seems to give slightly different answers from 4.0. I wonder why? :-\`
`07:50.25`	`docelm0`	`I just fixed em..`
`07:50.29`	`docelm0`	`thanks for pointing it out`
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`07:51.03`	`docelm0`	`I have been so busy working on backend shit that the frontend has pretty much been bastardised`
`07:51.28`	`denon`	`remind me to proof the rest of this stuff, cause I see a bunch more`
`07:51.32`	`denon`	`but am kinda busy with somethin else`
`07:51.32`	`denon`	`heh`
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`07:53.43`	`docelm0`	`all good.. I am not gonna lie.. english is not my forte.. I just speak it. I am better at sciences and engineering disciplines..`
`07:53.51`	`docelm0`	`denon you coming to astricon in dalls?`
`07:54.17`	`denon`	`nah, no time`
`07:54.53`	`docelm0`	`I was gonna say you can critique my presentation if I am chosen for my project.`
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`07:56.23`	`docelm0`	`What time does olle usually come around?`
`07:56.42`	`docelm0`	`He's the one working on the t38 branch right?`
`07:56.53`	`chiaBORG`	`anyone here bought hardware from www.openvox.com.cn?`
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`07:57.29`	`darkskiez`	`anyone here eat weetabix?`
`07:58.03`	`docelm0`	`uhh no`
`07:58.07`	`docelm0`	`that sounds eww`
`07:58.17`	`darkskiez`	`I just noticed the amount of wheat in them, it says 105% wheat.`
`07:58.40`	`docelm0`	`thats a hell of alot of wheat shoved into 100% location`
`07:58.54`	`docelm0`	`anything else in it?`
`07:58.58`	`docelm0`	`cause damn`
`07:59.04`	`denon`	`i had a box last time i was in AU`
`07:59.21`	`docelm0`	`that explains it.. those aussies and their health food`
`07:59.34`	`darkskiez`	`malted barley extract, sugar , salt, and a few other things`
`07:59.41`	`denon`	`?`
`07:59.48`	`docelm0`	`Then its not 105% wheat now is it.. :)`
`07:59.54`	`denon`	`and aussie's idea of health food .. is a beer with lots of barley`
`08:00.00`	`docelm0`	`haha`
`08:00.02`	`docelm0`	`true`
`08:00.04`	`darkskiez`	`*105g of wheat per 100g of weetabix, is their explanation.`
`08:00.10`	`docelm0`	`I know quite a few which is why I am joking around`
`08:00.19`	`darkskiez`	`I assume the 5g is water thats dried out.`
`08:00.25`	`docelm0`	`who knows`
`08:00.25`	`darkskiez`	`or 5.xg`
`08:00.30`	`denon`	`just as long as it's VB or Four X`
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`08:10.06`	`docelm0`	`ohh well.. Im going to bed.. Im tired as hell`
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`08:19.16`	`coppice`	`darkskiez: you mean like "contents may settle after this cereal is produced, so it only fills a quarter of the box"?`
`08:20.03`	`darkskiez`	`coppice, not really, that doesnt scare me in the same way, that just pisses me off.`
`08:21.49`	`coppice`	`loosing 5% of my water (other than by urination) scares me, but what is scary about 5% drier cereals? :-)`
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`09:15.44`	`satlan32`	`hi`
`09:15.52`	`satlan32`	`anyone installed SideDialer?`
`09:16.00`	`satlan32`	`SineDialer`
`09:16.04`	`satlan32`	`?`
`09:19.42`	`satlan32`	`any1 here?`
`09:28.44`	`ghenry`	`Morning all. What's the best way to connect 2 Asterisk boxes between offices?`
`09:30.25`	`Altair256`	`anyone happen to have a Polycom 301 or 501 config file output?`
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`09:30.47`	`Altair256`	`the xml file read for download by the phone, that is?`
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`10:19.41`	`julien[re]`	`hi there`
`10:19.51`	`julien[re]`	`i've got a question about Dial()`
`10:20.08`	`julien[re]`	`is there someone here?`
`10:20.20`	`key2`	`julien[re]: shoot the question`
`10:20.24`	`julien[re]`	`great`
`10:20.39`	`julien[re]`	`basically, i'd like to include the SIP login and password in the Dial command`
`10:20.42`	`julien[re]`	`is it possible?`
`10:20.47`	`key2`	`what for ?`
`10:20.59`	`key2`	`to call without having the accout ?`
`10:21.01`	`julien[re]`	`in fact, i'm developing a AGI for callees to call it`
`10:21.03`	`key2`	`yeah u could do that`
`10:21.11`	`julien[re]`	`ok and how could i?`
`10:21.45`	`key2`	`like exten=> xxx,1,Dial(SIP/toto:tata@A.B.C.D:PORT)`
`10:22.13`	`key2`	`or exten=> xxx,1,Dial(SIP/toto:tata@A.B.C.D:PORT/Number_u_wanna_call)`
`10:22.18`	`julien[re]`	`ok great`
`10:22.21`	`julien[re]`	`i'm trying it ;)`
`10:23.44`	`julien[re]`	`with the second, which is what i need`
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`10:23.52`	`julien[re]`	`i get an error:`
`10:23.57`	`key2`	`?`
`10:24.05`	`julien[re]`	`No such host: x.x.x.x/the_number_i_wanna_call`
`10:24.34`	`key2`	`can you resolve the x.x.x.x`
`10:24.34`	`key2`	`?`
`10:24.37`	`julien[re]`	`sure`
`10:24.42`	`julien[re]`	`i've put the IP`
`10:24.48`	`julien[re]`	`it seems * (i'm using 1.2)`
`10:24.58`	`key2`	`but why don't u put it in the sip.conf`
`10:25.20`	`julien[re]`	`i'm developing something which allows ppl to call in my *`
`10:25.30`	`julien[re]`	`and dial through their regular SIP provider`
`10:25.33`	`key2`	`it's called a trunk :)`
`10:25.52`	`julien[re]`	`so editing the sip.conf for each new user would be impossible`
`10:26.11`	`key2`	`insecure=very`
`10:26.14`	`key2`	`in SIP.CONF`
`10:26.18`	`key2`	`so it doesnt bother u`
`10:26.30`	`julien[re]`	`yes, but SIP providers can be very different`
`10:26.42`	`julien[re]`	`and when they call my * the call should be billed by the provider`
`10:26.45`	`julien[re]`	`on their SIP account`
`10:26.59`	`julien[re]`	`i can manage some AGI between extensions.conf and a mysql db to get their SIP host, user and pass`
`10:27.12`	`key2`	`julien[re]: what would that be for`
`10:27.15`	`key2`	`?`
`10:27.41`	`julien[re]`	`ppl dial my * which has a local DID (when they're on the road for example)`
`10:27.56`	`julien[re]`	`they enter the PIN they chose`
`10:28.02`	`julien[re]`	`then they dial their number`
`10:28.16`	`julien[re]`	`and the call is billed on their VoIP account, which could be anywhere`
`10:28.28`	`julien[re]`	`(fwd, vonage, whatever)`
`10:29.07`	`julien[re]`	`this way they can have cheap calls when using their mobile for example`
`10:29.26`	`julien[re]`	`since they pay a local call to their carrier and an international call to their usual VoIP provider`
`10:30.18`	`julien[re]`	`dunno if * is the best for this, but i can't find anything else`
`10:31.42`	`julien[re]`	`do u understand what i'd like to do?`
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`10:59.19`	`satlan32`	`hi`
`10:59.22`	`satlan32`	`need help`
`10:59.24`	`satlan32`	`please`
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`11:51.32`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`what is the problem when i hear sound good in one side only ?`
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`11:58.50`	`yakimbo5`	`hello everyone`
`11:59.10`	`yakimbo5`	`can somone help me on how using agents.conf`
`12:00.11`	`yakimbo5`	`i'v created an agent in agent.conf but whene loggin in with that agent i still can not see the agent logged in whene typing from the cli "show agents"`
`12:01.55`	`yakimbo5`	`my queue config is like this`
`12:01.58`	`yakimbo5`	`[199]`
`12:01.58`	`yakimbo5`	`wrapuptime=0`
`12:01.59`	`yakimbo5`	`timeout=15`
`12:01.59`	`yakimbo5`	`strategy=ringall`
`12:01.59`	`yakimbo5`	`retry=5`
`12:01.59`	`yakimbo5`	`queue-youarenext=`
`12:02.01`	`yakimbo5`	`queue-thereare=`
`12:02.05`	`yakimbo5`	`queue-thankyou=queue-thankyou`
`12:02.07`	`yakimbo5`	`queue-callswaiting=`
`12:02.09`	`yakimbo5`	`music=default`
`12:02.11`	`yakimbo5`	`monitor-join=yes`
`12:02.13`	`yakimbo5`	`monitor-format=`
`12:02.15`	`yakimbo5`	`member => Agent/200`
`12:02.17`	`yakimbo5`	`maxlen=0`
`12:02.19`	`yakimbo5`	`leavewhenempty=no`
`12:02.21`	`yakimbo5`	`joinempty=Yes`
`12:02.23`	`yakimbo5`	`context=`
`12:02.25`	`yakimbo5`	`announce-holdtime=no`
`12:02.27`	`yakimbo5`	`announce-frequency=0`
`12:02.51`	`yakimbo5`	`my agent in agents.conf is :`
`12:02.55`	`yakimbo5`	`agent => 200,123456,yacine`
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`12:03.48`	`snitt`	`~pb`
`12:03.49`	`jbot`	`pb is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca`
`12:05.50`	`yakimbo5`	`can somone help please`
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`12:20.24`	`Freman`	`Is it possible to make asterisk attempt to ring a group of extensions - but if one is busy treat the group as busy?`
`12:21.25`	`snitt`	`never had an issue like this with groups`
`12:22.24`	`Freman`	`It's not an issue, I'm wondering if it's possible to enforce it`
`12:22.37`	`Freman`	`no point in having every phone in the house ring if I'm already on one (c:`
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`12:53.20`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`can i adjust a codec for all application and protocols in one file ?`
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`13:07.06`	`robl^`	`codecs are not for applications.. but channels. you can adjest them in iax.conf and sip.conf... depending on which you use`
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`13:21.14`	`yakimbo5`	`how can i adjust the music on hold volume ??`
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`13:31.26`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`May 14 16:38:54 WARNING[29402]: channel.c:2115 ast_channel_make_compatible: No path to translate from SIP/10005-e60e(1) to SIP/108-f84b(4) <--- any idea how to fix this codec issue ?? i want to be able to traslate the codecs... i can't use the same codecs cuz 10005 uses G.723 and when i use it it messes up everything else on asterisk like voicemail..`
`13:32.54`	`jef`	`14`
`13:36.37`	`file`	`DarKnesS_WolF: you can't transcode G723.1 in Asterisk right now legally...`
`13:40.48`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`file: oh i see`
`13:41.36`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`file: ok is there a file i can adjust the codecs to be used all over asterisk ? when i use G723.1 the voicemail not working and i start on a loop or the other voip device or i have to get the voicemail to work`
`13:42.06`	`Damin`	`DarKnesS_WolF: There is no legal way to make g723.1 work on Asterisk..`
`13:42.16`	`Damin`	`DarKnesS_WolF: Use g729 or g726 instead..`
`13:42.43`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`Damin: yes the device supports g729`
`13:43.04`	`Damin`	`DarKnesS_WolF: Well, buy a couple of licenses from Digium, install the g729 codec and set your device to use it.`
`13:43.28`	`Damin`	`darkskiez:http://www.digium.com/en/products/voice/g729codec.php`
`13:43.35`	`Damin`	`DarKnesS_WolF: http://www.digium.com/en/products/voice/g729codec.php`
`13:43.55`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`it's not free then .. but it's not inclueded in asterisk ?`
`13:43.59`	`Damin`	`It's $10 / channel. So if you need 5 concurrent channels, that would be $50.`
`13:44.10`	`Damin`	`DarKnesS_WolF: It's not free.. Damn patents! ;)`
`13:44.39`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`Damin: and if i have digium card i don't get it free :P?`
`13:44.46`	`Damin`	`DarKnesS_WolF: Nope.`
`13:44.56`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`oh :-s`
`13:44.58`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`humm`
`13:45.03`	`file`	`we'd go out of business if we gave it out for free`
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`13:47.50`	`Damin`	`file: I very much doubt that Digium's entire revenue is based on the G729 codec licenses.. ;)`
`13:48.16`	`file`	`Damin: I didn't mean lack of revenue, I meant people getting licenses and then us in turn having to pay for each one we gave out :P`
`13:49.28`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`G7.11 == ulaw ?`
`13:49.47`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`actually 10 USD is cheap`
`14:01.14`	`robl^`	`g.711u or g.711a? ulaw/alaw respectively`
`14:01.40`	`file`	`noooo don't respect it`
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`14:09.52`	`alexrch`	`Hi guys!`
`14:10.32`	`xai`	`anyone aware of a * design diagram, uml, or dia ? design overview?`
`14:11.14`	`alexrch`	`I have one quick question to ask you guys: is it safe to use trunk version of * in production?`
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`14:12.23`	`alderney`	`hello`
`14:12.31`	`alexrch`	`Hi alredney!`
`14:12.44`	`alexrch`	`ops...alredney=alderney :)`
`14:12.58`	`robl^`	`alexrch: depends on the time of the day and which day. trunk varies in quality as it is the development branch.. may have bugs and broken code..`
`14:12.59`	`alderney`	`Wow -- my first IRC contact. Thanks. Is it ok to ask for AAH help here?`
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`14:13.53`	`robl^`	`alexrch: you are much better off with 1.2.7.1 or the stable branch in svn for production`
`14:15.01`	`alexrch`	`I'm having some problems with Manager, which aren't yet fixed in 1.2.7.1 nor branch, but seem to have been fixed in trunk. That's why I'm asking...`
`14:15.22`	`alderney`	`Is there some one who knows about problems with X100P cards (allegedly "genuine" but more likely clones) here?`
`14:15.44`	`alexrch`	`robl: do you maybe have any experiences with the Manager?`
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`14:16.58`	`rva`	`hi...i have a really strane problem right now`
`14:17.09`	`rva`	`an asterisk with 500 clients...that had alwayes worked ok`
`14:17.18`	`rva`	`and from nothing stopped acception any connection`
`14:17.28`	`rva`	`but tcpdump show all incoming connections`
`14:17.33`	`alexrch`	`hmm, alderney...I haven't heard of any particular problems with those cards...what do you have in mind though?`
`14:17.33`	`rva`	`wile nothing goes to asterisk console`
`14:17.41`	`rva`	`anyone seen that?`
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`14:18.27`	`alexrch`	`rva: does CLI still respond normally?`
`14:18.31`	`alderney`	`well it's a virgin at home 2.8 system, and I installed an X100P card in it for the single PSTN trunk`
`14:18.38`	`alderney`	`but no trunk appeared`
`14:18.41`	`rva`	`yes!`
`14:18.50`	`alderney`	`so evenutally I found the following in dmesg`
`14:18.52`	`alderney`	`ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:0b.0[A] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3`
`14:18.52`	`alderney`	`Failed to initailize DAA, giving up...`
`14:18.56`	`rva`	`alexrch, but if i sip debug on it...nothing happens!`
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`14:19.19`	`alderney`	`I've tried three different cards .. same thing`
`14:19.44`	`alderney`	`I THINK i've got the latest drivers from CVS too!`
`14:20.33`	`alexrch`	`this is just a wild guess alderney, but have you tried to assign different IRQ in BIOS?`
`14:20.56`	`alderney`	`Hmm now THAT's a worthwhile suggestion. /me disappears to try it.`
`14:21.39`	`alexrch`	`rva...huh, haven't experienced anything like that yet. Does restart help?`
`14:22.13`	`alexrch`	`I hope it helps, alderney :)`
`14:22.33`	`rva`	`alexrch, i restarted asterisk dozens of times...`
`14:22.39`	`rva`	`even the machine...and sma problem`
`14:23.46`	`alexrch`	`huh, can't think of anything right now...maybe somebody else will be more helpful, rva... :(`
`14:24.09`	`alexrch`	`I guess IP address of the machine didn't change or anything like that, huh???`
`14:24.43`	`alexrch`	`Hey guys.........can someone explain me in a few sentances what's the major difference between AGI and Manager API?`
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`14:24.57`	`EastWolf`	`hi baby`
`14:28.19`	`alderney`	`sigh .. it's on a different IRQ now, but same error. I couldn't find anywhere in the BIOS to explictly change it, but I did turn off everyhing I could fine (parallel, serial USB etc) and it allocated IRQ 7 this time.`
`14:30.13`	`alexrch`	`Did you report that to Digium support yet?`
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`14:32.07`	`alderney`	`me? Nope, I only just today worked out what was going on . .`
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`14:35.49`	`rva`	`you guys, wont believe! but the problem was the dns server!!!`
`14:36.08`	`rva`	`after changing it to a working dns the clients messages started arriving!`
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`15:06.14`	`gambolputty`	`Hi. Anyone use the res_sqlite module?`
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`15:18.00`	`snitt`	`rva: lol :P`
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`16:01.14`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`what is the best codecs to use ? clear enough and less bandwidth usage ?`
`16:03.06`	`gaiadog05`	`Hello....I have multiple sipura spa-3000 connected to my asterisk server. I am using the fxo ports for incoming/outgoing pstn calls. I would like to use SetGroup cmd to determine if the channel is available to dial out of. Any advice? Thanks`
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`16:13.33`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`how to know the the current working codec in a call ?`
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`16:33.31`	`Dr-Linux`	`darkskiez: what's your sip client?`
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`16:44.32`	`ghento`	`Hello :) I'm trying to figure out an appropriate call-limit value, to limit the number of incoming calls. How much bandwidth typically would each call use?`
`16:46.06`	`sevard`	`that's depending on the codec used, signaling used, and duration of call.`
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`16:48.23`	`ghento`	`I'm setting it up using sip. I have bandwidth=high. The server hosting asterisk is 1000Mbps uplink, but thats going to be also used by web traffic too`
`16:51.33`	`ghento`	`and allow=all`
`16:55.40`	`sevard`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyetap`
`16:55.43`	`sevard`	`erm`
`16:55.46`	`sevard`	`oops.`
`16:56.24`	`Dr-Linux`	`sevard: what's difference using 4.2 and 4.6 kernel for asterisk?`
`16:56.34`	`sevard`	`uhh`
`16:56.39`	`sevard`	`2.4 and 2.6 :)`
`16:56.45`	`ghento`	`:)`
`16:57.01`	`Dr-Linux`	`Opss sorry type`
`16:57.04`	`sevard`	`heh`
`16:57.09`	`Dr-Linux`	`typ0`
`16:57.09`	`Dr-Linux`	`yeah ;)`
`16:57.24`	`sevard`	`and iirc with 2.4 you need a zap-dummy module for timing, with 2.6 you don't need it`
`16:57.57`	`sevard`	`I was a die hard 2.4 fan until a couple of months ago`
`16:58.01`	`sevard`	`i recommend upgrading`
`16:58.20`	`Dr-Linux`	`sevard: any other good reason to use 2.6 kernel for asterisk?`
`16:58.56`	`sevard`	`not that I can think of, but there are plenty of other good reasons to use 2.6 when using linux. especially if you have nice new hardware`
`16:59.01`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: You can compile for low latency optimizations`
`16:59.07`	`ghento`	`hmm, any guides to deciding upon a call-limit? http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/edit.php?page=Asterisk+sip+call-limit is gonzo`
`16:59.42`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: also much better SATA support`
`16:59.46`	`Dr-Linux`	`sevard: all zaptel new versions are compatible with 2.4 kernel?`
`17:00.22`	`sevard`	`Dr-Linux: that I don't know. somebody else here probably does know or call digium. I upgraded to 2.6 before I started using zaptel devices`
`17:00.34`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: yes, they are`
`17:00.53`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: at least 2.4.29 and 2.4.31 are`
`17:00.58`	`Dr-Linux`	`dlynes_home: we are using RHEL AS 3 with 2.4 kernel licensed, now gonna send request to have 2.6`
`17:01.18`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: you don't license the kernel...the kernel is free`
`17:01.23`	`Dr-Linux`	`dlynes_home: but if boss asks for reason, so i must know some good reason to use 2.6`
`17:01.33`	`sevard`	`Dr-Linux: why don't you use a distro that you don't have to pay for`
`17:02.17`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: The biggest reason I can think of to go with 2.6 is the ability to use low latency optimizations; they're intended for desktop systems, but telephony is a good application, too`
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`17:02.48`	`Dr-Linux`	`dlynes_home: it's my company policy, we have more than 200 servers for differnt purposes in US datacenter, all have RHEL AS licensed`
`17:02.53`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: because big companies like a company they can bitch at when something goes wrong`
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`17:03.12`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: if you use a free linux, there's nobody to bitch at`
`17:03.37`	`sevard`	`that's an absolutly retarded viewpoint, imho.`
`17:03.51`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: Yeah, but how many businesses don't have that viewpoint?`
`17:04.15`	`sevard`	`a company i worked for asked me about which distros i liked`
`17:04.18`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: besides...there's a lot more people trained in the work force for Redhat than any other distro`
`17:04.27`	`sevard`	`i gave them a laydown of all the majors, including red hat`
`17:04.32`	`sevard`	`they decided with slackware.`
`17:04.40`	`sevard`	`i love slackware and agreed with them`
`17:04.49`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: a lot of that is due in fact to redhat's aggressive marketing, and the fact that redhat is owned by intel and ibm`
`17:05.11`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: Yeah...with out company, I set the policy of using Slackware`
`17:05.25`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: I just needed to tell the boss why we should go with slackware`
`17:05.29`	`sevard`	`heh`
`17:05.39`	`sevard`	`you can always push the idea "look boss, it's free."`
`17:05.43`	`sevard`	`"freeeeeeee"`
`17:05.52`	`sevard`	`"take that RH money and buy a new suit"`
`17:05.57`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: yeah...that's one of the reasons, but it wasn't the main reason to go with it`
`17:06.20`	`sevard`	`did you show him the long list of past rh exploits?`
`17:06.21`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: freebsd, fedora and debian are all free, too`
`17:06.49`	`Dr-Linux`	`dlynes_home: it's about 2 years, i never called Red hat support`
`17:07.04`	`sevard`	`then why pay for it`
`17:07.28`	`Dr-Linux`	`dlynes_home: all i do, i register my server with their RHN and anything i want i install/update with "up2date"`
`17:08.01`	`Dr-Linux`	`sevard: bcoz our network dept maybe need it, they are not good with linux stuff`
`17:08.08`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: I told him a number of reasons why not to go with anything redhat based: a long list of prerelease libraries (can't rely on it to be stable), rpm dependency hell, you have to pay for redhat, you modify something in hosts (for virtual hosts), and the redhat network configuration tools will overwrite it, ...`
`17:08.22`	`Dr-Linux`	`you can't use "up2date" command untill you are not registeed with RHN`
`17:08.31`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: slackware package management is extremely easy as well, and much easier to deploy`
`17:08.56`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: basically it came down to a choice between debian and slackware`
`17:09.02`	`sevard`	`dlynes: yeah, i had that problem with rh al 4, i modified the init scripts to set the IP and RH went and overwrote them every 30 minutes`
`17:09.10`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: we went with slackware because I know slackware backwards and forwards`
`17:09.19`	`sevard`	`i was fucking baffled until I found out the /long/path/of/shit/network/network-script`
`17:09.24`	`sevard`	`intended for a damn CEO to config the box`
`17:10.14`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: the only advantage I've found to using redhat, is that it's a relatively painless operation to install Oracle on it`
`17:10.26`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: but only on RHEL`
`17:10.40`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: on Redhat Standard Edition, Fedora, ... it's another story`
`17:11.23`	`Dr-Linux`	`FC sux eh!`
`17:11.24`	`sevard`	`the problem with rhel is you HAVE to pay for a subscription. it doesn't even come with yum.`
`17:11.33`	`dlynes_home`	`Even then, the Oracle installer is still a buggy piece of crap`
`17:11.37`	`sevard`	`it comes with up2date which you must pay for a subscription for`
`17:11.42`	`Dr-Linux`	`dlynes_home: we are using informix DB on RHEL`
`17:12.08`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: We had to use Oracle...no choice in the matter`
`17:12.24`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: We were giving our customers the choice of either Oracle or PostgreSQL`
`17:12.43`	`DarthClue_`	`dlynes_home, did you look at CentOS?`
`17:12.45`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: Most businesses in China apparently have never heard of Informix`
`17:13.02`	`Dr-Linux`	`dlynes_home: 2 years before, they asked me what should we use for over all stuff, select one,`
`17:13.05`	`dlynes_home`	`DarthClue_: With all the complaints I've heard about it in this channel? Not a chance`
`17:13.08`	`sevard`	`screw centos ;\`
`17:13.29`	`Dr-Linux`	`i suggest them Debian, but not sure, as RHEL taken`
`17:13.34`	`dlynes_home`	`DarthClue_: besides...it's another redhat based distro`
`17:13.51`	`Dr-Linux`	`dlynes_home: what do you think what distro has widly use?`
`17:13.54`	`DarthClue_`	`dlynes_home, don't believe everything you hear in this channel. it's a scrubbed version of RHEL.`
`17:13.56`	`dlynes_home`	`DarthClue_: scroll back up, where i referred to rpm dependency hell`
`17:14.13`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: i don't care what's widely used`
`17:14.23`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: i care what's stable, what's easy to use, and what's secure`
`17:14.37`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: how many ports is your system listening on?`
`17:14.45`	`sevard`	`Two`
`17:14.49`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: how many processes do you have running?`
`17:14.50`	`DarthClue_`	`dlynes_home, so build your own if you don't like what is out there. usually easy to do and nothing more secure than building the code and package yourself`
`17:14.54`	`sevard`	`22 and 80.`
`17:14.56`	`sevard`	`Two`
`17:15.06`	`Dr-Linux`	`what distro have many packegs and menfractures* ?`
`17:15.06`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: why so many processes?`
`17:15.18`	`sevard`	`dlynes: wtf haha`
`17:15.26`	`Dr-Linux`	`dlynes_home: right now, i'm home, so don't know and i'm on window`
`17:15.57`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`what is the best codecs to use ? clear enough and less bandwidth usage ?`
`17:16.01`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`and how to know the the current working codec in a call ?`
`17:16.28`	`Dr-Linux`	`debian have 14k packages and 8 MF`
`17:16.30`	`dlynes_home`	`menfractures? wtf?`
`17:16.35`	`sevard`	`DarKnesS_WolF: I use ulaw`
`17:16.53`	`Dr-Linux`	`Suse have 9k packages and 6 MF`
`17:16.57`	`sevard`	`DarKnesS_WolF: sip debug to diagnose the call`
`17:17.03`	`Dr-Linux`	`RHEL is on number 3`
`17:17.04`	`dlynes_home`	`DarKnesS_WolF: g729, or speex`
`17:17.20`	`sevard`	`somebody ought to write a wiki page on diagnosing a call with sip debug`
`17:17.25`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`speex is free ?`
`17:17.25`	`dlynes_home`	`DarKnesS_WolF: How many concurrent calls are you planning to have? What kind of cpu are you having?`
`17:17.29`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: they have`
`17:17.30`	`sevard`	`step by step how to understand and break down the signaling process of sip`
`17:17.38`	`sevard`	`they did? i'd like to read that`
`17:17.39`	`Dr-Linux`	`<dlynes_home> menfractures? wtf? >> sorry dude, can't spell the correct word`
`17:17.51`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`dlynes_home: 3G 1MB cash 512 MB ram and max 2 calls at time :-D`
`17:17.56`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: yeah...can't remember where, but I remember someone mentioning it on here in the last couple of days`
`17:18.16`	`DarthClue_`	`check with file, I know he has done alot of sip work and alot of breakdown as well`
`17:18.19`	`dlynes_home`	`DarKnesS_WolF: holy shit dooed! You've got $1M????`
`17:19.08`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`dlynes_home: u mean 1mb cash ? yes it's 3.0 G CPU i think it's PIIII or Xeon not sure`
`17:19.08`	`dlynes_home`	`DarKnesS_WolF: I'd go with ilbc then, seeing as how you don't need to worry about cpu usage`
`17:19.19`	`dlynes_home`	`DarKnesS_WolF: it's the best quality codec, but it has a high processor overhead`
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`17:19.33`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`dlynes_home: but i'm worry about Bandwidth cuz some users will use ADSL from other places`
`17:19.36`	`dlynes_home`	`DarKnesS_WolF: 1MB cache, not cash :)`
`17:19.49`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`dlynes_home: lol my english is bad :-)`
`17:20.28`	`Dr-Linux`	`dlynes_home: i'm using asterisk 1.2.0 on dual xeon, 2 GB of RAM, so whenever i check RAM, even if there is no call active, it shows on 23 or 25 free momory? is it bad?`
`17:20.29`	`dlynes_home`	`DarKnesS_WolF: yeah...anyways ilbc if you can use it, otherwise g729`
`17:20.44`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`dlynes_home: yes i think i can my phones supports it`
`17:20.46`	`sevard`	`dlynes_home: don't suggest ilbc!`
`17:20.52`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`dlynes_home: g729 not free :(`
`17:20.59`	`dlynes_home`	`Dr-Linux: ummm....show the exact memory line....23 or 25 free memory means absolutely nothing to me`
`17:21.06`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: why not?`
`17:21.07`	`file`	`erm?`
`17:21.12`	`sevard`	`that's horrible codec`
`17:21.14`	`sevard`	`horrible`
`17:21.16`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`dlynes_home: i wanted to day to integrate the asterisk box with a voip device .. an analog multitech and failed :D cuz of this codec issues`
`17:21.23`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: it works fine for me`
`17:21.27`	`sevard`	`i'm half deaf and still hate ilbc`
`17:21.41`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: you sure you're not getting it mixed up with lpc10?`
`17:21.47`	`sevard`	`lulz`
`17:21.53`	`sevard`	`no, ilbc`
`17:22.19`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`another problem the volum is really law`
`17:22.26`	`sevard`	`file: somebody said you had a write up, a breakdown of the sip signaling process and how to diagnose sip debug ?`
`17:22.27`	`dlynes_home`	`file: what's up?`
`17:22.41`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`and already my asterisk is old like 1 year i can't upgrade at the moment .. any idea about htis volum issues?`
`17:22.42`	`file`	`I don't have a write up... I just know how to do it`
`17:22.51`	`sevard`	`file: teach, master.`
`17:22.57`	`dlynes_home`	`sevard: I said there was a writeup...i didn't say file wrote it`
`17:23.04`	`sevard`	`or pull that crap out of your head`
`17:23.12`	`file`	`Unable to comply. Access not permitted.`
`17:23.12`	`sevard`	`dlynes_home: somebody else mentioned it`
`17:23.19`	`sevard`	`I'm still seraching for it on the wiki`
`17:23.29`	`sevard`	`file: give me r00t to your brain`
`17:23.36`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`lol`
`17:23.37`	`file`	`never!`
`17:23.49`	`Dr-Linux`	`dlynes_home: check your pvt`
`17:23.54`	`sevard`	`file: add me as a user and make that info group readable`
`17:24.21`	`file`	`pfft`
`17:25.32`	`docelm0`	`whadup?!`
`17:25.57`	`sevard`	`OH EM GEE NUFFIN, FOO`
`17:26.15`	`docelm0`	`qwell yer still up?`
`17:26.20`	`Qwell`	`docelm0: something like that`
`17:26.24`	`docelm0`	`haha`
`17:26.31`	`Qwell`	`docelm0: How'd the TnB thing go?`
`17:26.37`	`Qwell`	`ever apply?`
`17:27.19`	`Qwell`	`DIE!`
`17:27.25`	`Qwell`	`:D`
`17:27.26`	`file`	`do I have to? :(`
`17:27.33`	`Qwell`	`I guess not`
`17:27.52`	`docelm0`	`I have to reapply`
`17:27.57`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`17:28.09`	`Qwell`	`They're kinda dicking around with me`
`17:28.13`	`sevard`	`i had a 486 when i was younger named Fred. It was a good computer until I got angry at it one day and shoved a sharpned screwdriver through the chasis of its PSU. Flames shot out the back and that's the last I saw of Fred.`
`17:28.28`	`Qwell`	`sevard: You used to be named Fred?`
`17:28.40`	`sevard`	`Qwell: you need hooked on phonics`
`17:28.54`	`Qwell`	`"When I was younger named Fred"`
`17:29.12`	`docelm0`	`Well in words of what I sed at the crack of dawn.. Can the people of the channel with a heart beat and that are alive check this out and lemme know if these rates are competitive?`
`17:29.13`	`docelm0`	`http://www.plainvoip.com/?page=showrates`
`17:29.17`	`sevard`	`I had a 486, when I was younger, named fred`
`17:29.35`	`Qwell`	`sevard: I had a 486 named Fred, when I was younger.`
`17:29.40`	`Qwell`	`or`
`17:29.42`	`docelm0`	`Good lord.. I started w/ a Tandy Color I, II, III`
`17:29.47`	`Qwell`	`When I was younger, I had a 486 named Fred`
`17:29.55`	`sevard`	`Qwell: I like my versions better`
`17:29.57`	`docelm0`	`then upgraded into an IBM XT 4.77MHz`
`17:30.05`	`sevard`	`NOBoody schools me on englishhhhhhh`
`17:30.20`	`Qwell`	`Zenith z180, biatches - 1983`
`17:30.29`	`sevard`	`docelmo: jesus, that's just slightly faster than a NES isn't it`
`17:30.38`	`sevard`	`an`
`17:30.39`	`docelm0`	`uhh yes`
`17:30.46`	`sevard`	`ouch.`
`17:30.53`	`docelm0`	`Qwell XT 82 :P`
`17:31.08`	`Qwell`	`docelm0: well, technically, when I was born, we had a trs-80 :P`
`17:31.31`	`docelm0`	`What do you think a color computer I II and III is?`
`17:31.32`	`Qwell`	`yeah, you heard me...I was born after the trs-80 :P`
`17:31.34`	`dlynes_home`	`oooh...trash 80`
`17:31.37`	`sevard`	`286? :\|`
`17:31.50`	`dlynes_home`	`trash 80 was before the 286`
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`17:31.55`	`dlynes_home`	`It's a cpm system`
`17:31.55`	`sevard`	`no, i had a 286`
`17:31.58`	`sevard`	`it was a pos though`
`17:32.05`	`Qwell`	`docelm0: indeed`
`17:32.11`	`docelm0`	`I had all 3`
`17:32.21`	`docelm0`	`HUGE ASS floppy drive`
`17:32.25`	`docelm0`	`300 baud modem`
`17:32.33`	`sevard`	`audio coupler?`
`17:32.40`	`sevard`	`acoustic*`
`17:32.48`	`Qwell`	`docelm0: I'm pretty sure I have a 240 baud in my Zenith :D`
`17:32.49`	`docelm0`	`it beeped if you can call that audio`
`17:32.54`	`docelm0`	`haha`
`17:33.00`	`Qwell`	`Which I still have!`
`17:33.02`	`sevard`	`I meant was your modem an acoustic coupler`
`17:33.04`	`docelm0`	`did they make 240?`
`17:33.18`	`Qwell`	`docelm0: I don't know...pretty sure it says 240 on it though`
`17:33.20`	`chiaBORG`	`I still have a brand new coco III`
`17:33.20`	`docelm0`	`you mean did it have a cradle? no`
`17:33.23`	`sevard`	`did you take your phone off the hook and clunk it down on a cradle`
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`17:33.33`	`sevard`	`lame`
`17:33.36`	`sevard`	`those were awesome`
`17:34.05`	`docelm0`	`sevard where r u from?`
`17:34.05`	`Qwell`	`docelm0: "Big Mouth"`
`17:34.16`	`Qwell`	`not much exists on google, heh`
`17:34.19`	`sevard`	`docelmo: lulz i r frum teh plant`
`17:35.03`	`sevard`	`Qwell: <3`
`17:36.49`	`docelm0`	`dork`
`17:36.49`	`sevard`	`holy i'm hungry as balls`
`17:37.00`	`docelm0`	`your balls get hungry?`
`17:37.11`	`sevard`	`docelm0: do you have a sister?`
`17:37.18`	`docelm0`	`2 actually`
`17:37.22`	`sevard`	`:-)`
`17:37.31`	`Qwell`	`Hopefully they doesn't bear a resemblance to him... :)`
`17:37.39`	`sevard`	`ages/profiles`
`17:37.52`	`Qwell`	`they don't*`
`17:38.00`	`docelm0`	`one is hot as hell.. (step mind you) and a UBER BITCH.. the other is 10`
`17:38.03`	`docelm0`	`need I say more?`
`17:38.15`	`Qwell`	`works for me`
`17:38.15`	`sevard`	`how old is the hellishly hot one`
`17:38.19`	`Qwell`	`sevard: 12`
`17:38.22`	`sevard`	`:'(`
`17:38.36`	`docelm0`	`23 I think`
`17:38.42`	`sevard`	`phone number?`
`17:38.48`	`Dr-Linux`	`should be 19`
`17:38.52`	`docelm0`	`dont know.. she moved..`
`17:38.53`	`Qwell`	`1-800-sis-elm0`
`17:38.56`	`sevard`	`hahaha`
`17:38.57`	`Dr-Linux`	`911`
`17:38.58`	`docelm0`	`sigh`
`17:39.03`	`sevard`	`8675309`
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`17:39.48`	`Qwell`	`<sevard> pic?`
`17:39.56`	`Qwell`	`:D`
`17:40.04`	`docelm0`	`nope`
`17:40.19`	`docelm0`	`I dont even have a pic of my parents..`
`17:41.14`	`Dr-Linux`	`docelm0: about who you talking? the hot one? who's she?`
`17:41.45`	`docelm0`	`My step sister`
`17:42.06`	`docelm0`	`Think hot as hell but UBER bitch`
`17:42.16`	`docelm0`	`that in a nutshell is her`
`17:42.29`	`sevard`	`frankenstine could remove her brain`
`17:42.31`	`sevard`	`so could I`
`17:42.32`	`sevard`	`pix`
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`17:44.35`	`rabello`	`Would anybody have experience with h323 setups in Asterisk?`
`17:45.01`	`rabello`	`I'm trying to get started on a simple setup.`
`17:45.21`	`Dr-Linux`	`docelm0: how you know your sister is hot one? :S`
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`17:46.13`	`docelm0`	`rabello why? H323 is almost dead..`
`17:46.23`	`docelm0`	`everyone supports SIP and a TON support IAX`
`17:46.35`	`rabello`	`Yes, I know, but I'm trying to reach a server that only supports this.`
`17:46.48`	`rabello`	`This is the problem. This server requires a registration.`
`17:46.48`	`docelm0`	`Why ? Kick ass pricing or something?`
`17:46.58`	`rabello`	`Yes: FREE!`
`17:47.10`	`docelm0`	`Tell em to use SIP`
`17:47.13`	`rabello`	`From my location it would mean free calls to Brazil.`
`17:47.14`	`docelm0`	`:)`
`17:47.45`	`rabello`	`Well, I'm investigating that possibility... But you know, it is an official service and therefore things tend to get slower...`
`17:47.58`	`docelm0`	`dont tell me about slow..`
`17:48.11`	`rabello`	`Anyways, what I was trying to setup was a bridge between my local SIP users and that H323 server.`
`17:48.13`	`docelm0`	`I get a proposal it takes a month for them to choose the cheapest quote`
`17:48.33`	`rabello`	`:)`
`17:48.50`	`docelm0`	`rabello it can be done but I have never seen more than about 20 channels of H323 before it crashes`
`17:49.18`	`rabello`	`You mean, 20 concurrent or sequential calls?`
`17:49.25`	`docelm0`	`concurren`
`17:49.27`	`docelm0`	`t`
`17:49.46`	`rabello`	`This is a local net here... I'm just trying to bridge my phone to this server.`
`17:50.00`	`rabello`	`So, there will only be 1 connection at a time.`
`17:50.07`	`docelm0`	`Well no I am talking in means of production`
`17:50.13`	`rabello`	`Ok.`
`17:50.35`	`docelm0`	`What version H323 are u using?`
`17:50.45`	`rabello`	`The problem is that I find no way documentation on OOH323 that allows me to specify a password to that gk...`
`17:51.09`	`docelm0`	`ohh.. is this the one in addons?`
`17:51.09`	`rabello`	`This is compiled against openh323 1.18.0, I think.`
`17:51.15`	`rabello`	`Yes.`
`17:51.18`	`ManxPower`	`I didn't know H323 GKs supported passwords`
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`17:51.30`	`rabello`	`This one does.`
`17:51.41`	`rabello`	`I've got a name/pass`
`17:51.45`	`docelm0`	`this is why H323 just sucks`
`17:51.57`	`docelm0`	`its a protocol designed by dinosaurs`
`17:51.57`	`ManxPower`	`rabello, Dial(ooh323/username:password@ipaddress/${EXTEN})`
`17:52.20`	`rabello`	`Ok, let me try that...`
`17:52.35`	`ManxPower`	`rabello, that is the standard dial syntax`
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`17:54.38`	`rabello`	`ManxPower: does not work.`
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`17:55.03`	`docelm0`	`have you setup your peers in ooh323.conf?`
`17:55.08`	`rabello`	`Yes.`
`17:55.23`	`rabello`	`This I have done in the std way.`
`17:55.36`	`rabello`	`I've included a 'secret' field and a username`
`17:55.41`	`docelm0`	`I dont know.. I have messed with it but it frustrated me so much I swore I would never use it again`
`17:55.49`	`rabello`	`Defined the ip of the gk and on.`
`17:55.53`	`docelm0`	`then you shouldnt have to specify it`
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`17:56.08`	`rabello`	`That is what I thought.`
`17:56.37`	`Qwell`	`extremely offtopic... You guys know the thing in a PC case that holds HDs? You know how most look expandable? wtf do I get that part?`
`17:56.50`	`docelm0`	`email here: ooh323c-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net`
`17:56.56`	`docelm0`	`they are the ones to ask for this information`
`17:57.22`	`rabello`	`Okay, I'll try that.`
`17:57.33`	`docelm0`	`Qwell got a hammer?`
`17:57.38`	`Qwell`	`docelm0: sure`
`17:57.44`	`docelm0`	`there's your answer`
`17:57.54`	`Qwell`	`what, make one? :p`
`17:58.10`	`Qwell`	`so, like...reason I ask...`
`17:58.22`	`Qwell`	`you know the two screws on the bottom, where the expansion thing would go?`
`17:58.31`	`Qwell`	`Well...I've got a HD dangling upside down from those :P`
`17:58.37`	`docelm0`	`ok`
`17:58.48`	`docelm0`	`if you put it in then you should be able to take it out.. :)`
`18:00.16`	`Qwell`	`taking it out isn't a problem...it's just that there is 0 room for more HDs now`
`18:00.24`	`Qwell`	`I had to be creative to add the last one :p`
`18:00.52`	`docelm0`	`um, just lay it in there`
`18:00.58`	`Qwell`	`can't..`
`18:01.00`	`docelm0`	`or make a bracket`
`18:01.05`	`Qwell`	`too lazy to make one`
`18:01.22`	`docelm0`	`My computer will handle 8 HD's I have 4`
`18:01.30`	`Qwell`	`send me your expansion dealy :P`
`18:01.37`	`docelm0`	`its plexiglass`
`18:01.48`	`Qwell`	`mine handles like...2...but I have 4 ;/`
`18:01.48`	`docelm0`	`I have an acrylic case`
`18:02.32`	`Qwell`	`one is above the floppy in a 5 1/4" bay, with only one side touching`
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`18:03.49`	`docelm0`	`done that`
`18:04.13`	`Qwell`	`retail maxtors usually come with the pieces to make it work in there...for some reason, I don't have any`
`18:04.16`	`docelm0`	`I dunno dude.. Why do you need another HD? 4 for me work perfect.. I have MORE than enough space forever`
`18:04.26`	`Qwell`	`umm`
`18:04.33`	`Qwell`	`pr0n?`
`18:04.39`	`docelm0`	`sigh`
`18:04.46`	`Qwell`	`no, but...yeah`
`18:04.53`	`file`	`Qwell MAKES pr0n, you know`
`18:04.54`	`docelm0`	`you didnt strick me as a freak @ astricon`
`18:04.55`	`Qwell`	`lots of video`
`18:04.59`	`rabello`	`I was wondering what means this message "May 14 20:02:49 WARNING[17362]: channel.c:787 channel_find_locked: Avoided initial deadlock for '0x65af30', 10 retries!"`
`18:05.08`	`Qwell`	`mythtv is fun`
`18:05.31`	`docelm0`	`I need to get an HD card for my computer`
`18:05.59`	`docelm0`	`4:3 is gettign odl now that I have a 32" monitor`
`18:06.07`	`Qwell`	`kram: hi..and bye`
`18:08.43`	`docelm0`	`KRAM!`
`18:08.51`	`kram`	`hi docelm0`
`18:09.10`	`docelm0`	`You probably have no idea who I am.. :P`
`18:09.18`	`docelm0`	`But you know me..`
`18:09.19`	`docelm0`	`:)`
`18:09.20`	`kram`	`you are correct :)`
`18:09.22`	`kram`	`who are you?`
`18:09.26`	`docelm0`	`Brian Fertig`
`18:09.28`	`file`	`I bet you don't know who I am either!`
`18:09.36`	`docelm0`	`shut up josh`
`18:09.37`	`kram`	`i know who you are file pokes file`
`18:09.38`	`docelm0`	`:)`
`18:10.15`	`kram`	`still working on who is brian fertig`
`18:10.37`	`docelm0`	`I would be the guy with the 6" goatee @ astricon`
`18:10.43`	`docelm0`	`Im 6'6`
`18:12.03`	`Qwell`	`lemme find a picture..pretty sure blitzrage had one`
`18:12.41`	`docelm0`	`I sent him to my myspace location`
`18:12.56`	`Qwell`	`guess not`
`18:13.40`	`Qwell`	`kram: What ever happened to "the balloon"? http://leifmadsen.com/gallery/astricon_2005/HPIM2347`
`18:14.16`	`kram`	`not sure actually`
`18:14.19`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`18:17.10`	`Qwell`	`oh..damn.`
`18:17.15`	`docelm0`	`??`
`18:17.17`	`Qwell`	`file: You said ~Jun 6, right?`
`18:17.19`	`docelm0`	`you broke it didnt u`
`18:17.23`	`Qwell`	`docelm0: yeah`
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`18:17.27`	`Qwell`	`or was it Jul?`
`18:17.38`	`Qwell`	`nm`
`18:17.51`	`file`	`end of July`
`18:18.18`	`Qwell`	`MAYBE`
`18:18.28`	`file`	`MAYBE?!? ok.`
`18:18.32`	`docelm0`	`end of July?`
`18:18.51`	`key2`	`hey`
`18:18.52`	`Qwell`	`docelm0: I invited myself somewhere :p`
`18:18.58`	`key2`	`how can I have the time spent in queue in the CDR`
`18:20.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`key2 : You don't the queue has its own log.`
`18:20.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`key2 : You can match them up by the calls uniqueid`
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`18:21.10`	`docelm0`	`key2 or you can modify the cdr_mysql_addon.c to have it show up`
`18:21.21`	`Flauto`	`hey`
`18:21.22`	`Flauto`	`guys`
`18:21.25`	`key2`	`[TK]D-Fender: which means you cant use the cdr_pgsql for writing it in a sql`
`18:21.37`	`Flauto`	`is there a way to reload sip.conf once an hour?`
`18:21.43`	`Qwell`	`Flauto: cron job`
`18:21.46`	`docelm0`	`Flauto yes`
`18:21.50`	`Qwell`	`Flauto: but, by question, is why?`
`18:21.50`	`docelm0`	`cron`
`18:21.51`	`docelm0`	`haha`
`18:21.55`	`Qwell`	`s/by/my/`
`18:22.23`	`docelm0`	`s/haha/HAHA!`
`18:22.24`	`Flauto`	`yes, i came cross this service voicestick.com`
`18:22.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`key2 : app_queue uses its own SQL table if configured as such or in a flat-file which is plainly documented`
`18:22.50`	`Flauto`	`it seems that only when you reload sip.conf once an hour, it would keep working`
`18:23.04`	`Flauto`	`otherwise, the register would show anth. sent`
`18:23.10`	`docelm0`	`time to get a new service`
`18:23.21`	`Flauto`	`docelm0`
`18:23.27`	`Flauto`	`good one`
`18:23.34`	`Flauto`	`but what is better one`
`18:23.54`	`Flauto`	`qwell, would you teach me how to do it?`
`18:24.20`	`Qwell`	`Flauto: surely, you can get around that with a lower qualify or something`
`18:24.28`	`Qwell`	`but, man crontab`
`18:24.43`	`docelm0`	`Good lord man.. REALLY time for a new provider.. they are uber expensive`
`18:24.50`	`docelm0`	`www.plainvoip.com`
`18:24.59`	`docelm0`	`.01 US and most of canada`
`18:25.14`	`docelm0`	`international is inexpensive also`
`18:25.55`	`bkw_`	`look at the bottom`
`18:25.55`	`bkw_`	`Total Visitors Since 4SEPT05: 7916`
`18:25.56`	`bkw_`	`Total minutes served: 221,951`
`18:26.19`	`websae`	`docelm0: caller-id isn't working the best though on that service`
`18:26.51`	`justinu\|laptop`	`wow, 221k minutes isn't a lot`
`18:27.33`	`docelm0`	`websae yes.. to cell providers and there are tickets in for those issues`
`18:27.41`	`docelm0`	`justinu\|laptop, hay its new.. :)`
`18:27.53`	`docelm0`	`and advertising is mainly word of mouth`
`18:27.58`	`key2`	`[TK]D-Fender: what's cdrfork for`
`18:27.59`	`key2`	`?`
`18:28.09`	`websae`	`docelm0: even on pacwest`
`18:28.34`	`docelm0`	`and like I said.. I am working on it..`
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`18:29.00`	`_-Jon-_`	`hey everyone`
`18:29.01`	`docelm0`	`I can only work as fast as my providers will let me`
`18:29.02`	`docelm0`	`:)`
`18:29.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`key2 : No idea, have you considered reading about it on the Wiki, or inquiring at CLI? :)`
`18:29.23`	`Flauto`	`qwell, i know nothing about crontab`
`18:29.24`	`docelm0`	`Also if you dont pass callerID then it will not show up also`
`18:29.36`	`docelm0`	`~google crontab`
`18:30.08`	`_-Jon-_`	`I have a quesiton.. basically I have multiple incoming numbers but sometimes I get private calls, and am wondering if there's some way that if I get a private call, I can set the caller id to the number they dialed`
`18:30.39`	`dlynes_home`	`~cron`
`18:30.42`	`jbot`	`i guess cron is a program which allows for the management of regular background processing, or 'man 5 crontab'`
`18:31.48`	`dlynes_home`	`_-Jon-_: Set(CALLERID(num)=${EXTEN})`
`18:31.55`	`ToTo`	`someone use ekiga with asterisk?`
`18:32.11`	`dlynes_home`	`ToTo: lots...just ask your question :)`
`18:32.20`	`_-Jon-_`	`dlynes_home, but it needs to be conditional`
`18:32.39`	`ToTo`	`dlynes_home, i can't register to asterisk..`
`18:32.51`	`_-Jon-_`	`Is there any way to do like "if $something = private" then Set(CALLERID(num)=${EXTEN})?`
`18:33.22`	`Qwell`	`_-Jon-_: ExecIf`
`18:33.24`	`dlynes_home`	`_-Jon-_: look on the wiki for the documentation for GotoIf`
`18:33.34`	`_-Jon-_`	`dlynes, thanks!`
`18:33.37`	`ToTo`	`dlynes_home, i have an asterisk test maschin in my laptop..`
`18:33.47`	`dlynes_home`	`_-Jon-_: check qwell's suggestion, too`
`18:33.55`	`Qwell`	`ExecIf($["${something}" = "private"],Set,CALLERID(num)=${EXTEN})`
`18:34.04`	`Qwell`	`I <3 ExecIf`
`18:34.15`	`_-Jon-_`	`Ah nice, sounds like exactly what I need`
`18:34.34`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage and I want to redo ExecIf, to allow for a false part too`
`18:34.51`	`dlynes_home`	`ToTo: you're talking to the wrong person...I don't use ekiga...i just said lots of people do`
`18:34.53`	`ToTo`	`dlynes_home, registration failed..`
`18:36.44`	`Flauto`	`cron is the only way to set auto sip reload?`
`18:37.07`	`Qwell`	`Flauto: pretty much`
`18:37.12`	`Qwell`	`unless you know c`
`18:37.18`	`Flauto`	`hehe`
`18:37.21`	`Flauto`	`no`
`18:37.24`	`Qwell`	`but cron is the "right way" to do it`
`18:37.32`	`Flauto`	`okay`
`18:37.42`	`Flauto`	`i guess that i will have to do some reading then`
`18:37.54`	`Flauto`	`thanks very much, qwell`
`18:39.37`	`justinu\|laptop`	`dlynes_home: ever run across that OS/2 cd? :)`
`18:40.50`	`dlynes_home`	`justinu\|laptop: yep`
`18:41.06`	`justinu\|laptop`	`woohoo!`
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`18:44.00`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: oh? :)`
`18:44.17`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage: wanna try to bring it up on Tuesday`
`18:44.22`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: yah`
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`18:46.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`blitzrage : ! ! !`
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`18:47.02`	`docelm0`	`YIPPIE!`
`18:47.05`	`docelm0`	`or something`
`18:47.32`	`blitzrage`	`[TK]D-Fender: I don't want ot know your name!`
`18:47.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`blitzrage : I'm due up your way for the week of June 25th, we should schedule a meetup (see if we can get some TAUG members as well)`
`18:47.47`	`justinu\|laptop`	`ouch`
`18:47.50`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage: he's a stalker! run!`
`18:47.57`	`blitzrage`	`[TK]D-Fender: yah -- that sounds like a TAUG meeting week too actually`
`18:48.04`	`blitzrage`	`last Wed. of the month I think`
`18:48.05`	`justinu\|laptop`	`good old #asterisk comraderie`
`18:48.30`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: who says I don't want him stalking? :)`
`18:48.36`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage: touche`
`18:49.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`So yeah.. speaking about my latest forays in the dating scene ... cough`
`18:49.49`	`blitzrage`	`[TK]D-Fender: lol`
`18:50.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"Loyal, commited, reliable"... sounds like stalking to me ;)`
`18:50.34`	`blitzrage`	`lol`
`18:50.44`	`blitzrage`	`ok -- gotta go call my mom :)`
`18:50.54`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage: call mine too?`
`18:50.57`	`blitzrage`	`everyone say, awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :)`
`18:50.58`	`blitzrage`	`lol`
`18:51.01`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: sure!`
`18:51.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Ummm yeah while you're not yet on "disowned" status!`
`18:51.07`	`blitzrage`	`Qwell: mom's love me`
`18:51.13`	`Qwell`	`blitzrage: I bet. ;)`
`18:51.20`	`blitzrage`	`;)`
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`18:52.48`	`Qwell`	`I guess I should call mine`
`18:53.03`	`Qwell`	`hmm...score`
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`18:53.14`	`Qwell`	`If I use chan_skinny, I'll have an excuse if it crashes!`
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`18:53.33`	`blitzrage`	`lol`
`18:53.49`	`Qwell`	`brb, adding segfault :P`
`18:54.17`	`blitzrage`	`*CLI> segfault when convenient`
`18:54.22`	`Qwell`	`haha`
`18:54.24`	`Qwell`	`awesome`
`18:54.29`	`Qwell`	`I am so adding that`
`18:54.49`	`Qwell`	`app_segfault?`
`18:55.06`	`Qwell`	`no, nm, no channel will be there.`
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`18:59.19`	`Dr-Linux`	`Qwell: please correct, it's app_segfault.so :P`
`18:59.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`blitzrage : that'd be a nifty compliment to our current "segfault when inconvenient" :)`
`19:00.21`	`file`	`it's pretty easy to make something segfault`
`19:00.30`	`file`	`soooooo`
`19:00.31`	`file`	`DO IT!`
`19:01.48`	`Dr-Linux`	`file: zeptel all new versions are compatible with kernel 2.4 ?`
`19:02.16`	`file`	`eh? yes`
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`19:03.00`	`Dr-Linux`	`file: thanks`
`19:03.08`	`Dr-Linux`	`hm..`
`19:04.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I have one... no ZTDUMMY on mine...`
`19:04.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And yes, I want MeetMe.`
`19:05.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`and maybe IAX2 trunking...`
`19:05.24`	`Assid`	`doesnt iax2 trunking cause issues`
`19:05.30`	`Assid`	`cause of jitter or something?`
`19:05.56`	`Dr-Linux`	`the other 2 can be done in 2.4 as well`
`19:06.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Dr-Linux : I have no proper USB device for timing.`
`19:06.36`	`Dr-Linux`	`ztdummy is not a big reason :S`
`19:07.57`	`Dr-Linux`	`[TK]D-Fender: actually i'm going to install a new production asterisk server at datacenter, so i'm thinking about kernel`
`19:08.48`	`Dr-Linux`	`previously we are using RHEL AS 3 kernel 2.4 for all of our about 200 different purposes servers,`
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`19:09.21`	`Dr-Linux`	`someone said here, 2.6 is much better for asterisk, but he didn't explain reasons :S`
`19:10.01`	`Dr-Linux`	`so i was thinking if 2.6 is very good, then i gonna install it otherwise, we haven't expereinece with 2.6 kernel,`
`19:10.10`	`Assid`	`because of the inbuilt RTC for timing`
`19:10.18`	`Dr-Linux`	`onced we had 2.6 but we faced some problem with our informix DB`
`19:10.52`	`CoffeeIV`	`anyone here use faxing with sixTel/iax.cc ? What do you use to detect the fax -- NVFax ?`
`19:11.14`	`Assid`	`i would like to play with faxing one day`
`19:11.47`	`Dr-Linux`	`Assid: over the VOIP?`
`19:12.06`	`Dr-Linux`	`voip sux for data communication`
`19:13.03`	`Dr-Linux`	`after everything successfull it says "RNQ host not found" :)`
`19:13.11`	`Assid`	`hrmm`
`19:13.15`	`Assid`	`thats not good`
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`19:14.24`	`Dr-Linux`	`Assid: we have more than 25k POS devices in USA, i wish asterisk could do that for us via VOIP, VOILA!`
`19:14.52`	`websae`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:14.58`	`wunderkin`	`my pos device has been pretty pos lately (bt101)`
`19:15.01`	`adenardo`	`I installed *@Home, but have since had a friend help edit the config files in /etc/asterisk manually. I think I should ask my questions here, not freepbx, ok?`
`19:16.02`	`adenardo`	`when I dial anything other than a local # I get a fast busy signal. i think it is because of some stuff that asterisk@home left in my config files`
`19:16.19`	`adenardo`	`and, I cannot check voicemail from my phone`
`19:16.22`	`adenardo`	`only from email`
`19:16.39`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: i don't think you will get good help here, bcoz of A@H damn macros in your configs`
`19:17.03`	`CoffeeIV`	`websae: I was told they had the best chance of working out of all the voip guys`
`19:17.07`	`adenardo`	`DrLinux: anyway to salvage what works, and start from scratch?`
`19:17.09`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: what about voicemailmain() ?`
`19:17.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wunderkin : HULK SMASH FREEPBX!!`
`19:18.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : Depends, give good details and maybe you'll get lucky.`
`19:18.05`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: exten => 9999,1,Voicemailmain()`
`19:18.06`	`adenardo`	`DrLinux: what about it? I tried that, and get the fast busy`
`19:18.07`	`Dr-Linux`	`do that`
`19:18.11`	`adenardo`	`ok`
`19:18.39`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: then "extension reload"`
`19:18.42`	`Dr-Linux`	`then try dialing 9999`
`19:18.52`	`adenardo`	`fast busy`
`19:19.01`	`adenardo`	`I just typed reload, is that enough?`
`19:19.09`	`adenardo`	`on the asterisk cli`
`19:19.30`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: reload , reloads your all installed modules`
`19:19.32`	`DrPete`	`anyone recomend a tftp server for linux, to update cisco phones?`
`19:19.45`	`Qwell`	`DrPete: any..`
`19:19.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`DrPete : tftpd`
`19:19.50`	`Dr-Linux`	`DrPete: SolarWind`
`19:19.50`	`Qwell`	`I think I use hpa though`
`19:20.09`	`Qwell`	`or is it the bsd one? I don't know :p`
`19:20.28`	`Dr-Linux`	`DrPete: what OS your using?`
`19:20.35`	`Dr-Linux`	`you're*`
`19:20.39`	`Qwell`	`tftp-hpa 0.40, with remap, with tcpwrappers`
`19:20.44`	`DrPete`	`debian`
`19:20.51`	`Qwell`	`DrPete: That's what I use for my ciscos`
`19:21.04`	`Dr-Linux`	`DrPete: then tftpd`
`19:21.11`	`Qwell`	`just add a few -v's, to get the NAKs`
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`19:21.22`	`Dr-Linux`	`never use debian though`
`19:21.51`	`Dr-Linux`	`used*`
`19:22.00`	`DrPete`	`i just saw a few in the debian list, hpa, atftpd, tftpd etc`
`19:22.14`	`adenardo`	`I installed A@Home. couldn't get it to work. had a friend come over, he edited some stuff, now local calls only work. my configs are a kludge between A@Home stuff and some manually edited stuff. I need to have local/ld working today. should I start over, or try to fix what I have?`
`19:22.19`	`Qwell`	`DrPete: hpa..`
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`19:23.13`	`Malthus`	`adenardo, I'd say ty to fix`
`19:23.13`	`DrPete`	`oki, i will give it a shot. I am going to try the newest firmware I downloaded from cisco, not used my phone in ages`
`19:23.22`	`Qwell`	`DrPete: What phone?`
`19:23.31`	`DrPete`	`794*`
`19:23.33`	`adenardo`	`ok`
`19:23.36`	`Malthus`	`and when done fixing start over reconfigure everything properly`
`19:23.44`	`Qwell`	`yeah, should work fine. sip or skinny?`
`19:23.45`	`adenardo`	`heheh`
`19:23.50`	`DrPete`	`sip`
`19:23.54`	`Qwell`	`lame :p`
`19:23.59`	`DrPete`	`lol is it`
`19:24.04`	`DrPete`	`I have never used skinny`
`19:24.07`	`Qwell`	`skinny <3`
`19:24.11`	`Qwell`	`...when it works. ;)`
`19:24.45`	`Dr-Linux`	`DrPete: i installed my all 79xx phones with Solarwind tftp from windows, bcoz i don't know how to use tftp on linux :)`
`19:24.52`	`DrPete`	`lol`
`19:25.01`	`DrPete`	`call yourself drlinux eh, lol`
`19:25.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : Describe your hardware / services`
`19:25.53`	`adenardo`	`Celeron, FXO card connected to Qwest for local calls, LinksysPAP2T card`
`19:26.09`	`adenardo`	`local calls in and out work fine`
`19:26.19`	`DrPete`	`Qwell is skinny a different image for the phones?`
`19:26.27`	`adenardo`	`voicemail gets recorded, but I can only check vm via email`
`19:26.41`	`Dr-Linux`	`DrPete: heh, but when i need it, i'll have it easily, actually all my phones are at remote hands, and telneting the Cisco phone don't help much, and remote peoples are dump :P`
`19:26.41`	`Nugget`	`telnet is eeeeeeevil!`
`19:26.45`	`adenardo`	`what I'd like to do is get LD working, and be able to check vm from the phone itself`
`19:26.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : Ok, better off starting from scratch.`
`19:27.03`	`adenardo`	`ok`
`19:27.24`	`adenardo`	`wipe /etc/asterisk, or the whole box`
`19:27.24`	`adenardo`	`?`
`19:27.46`	`adenardo`	`I have the current /etc/asterisk tarred up, so I'm comfortable deleting it and starting over`
`19:28.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : I'd say backup your current files for reference, download * and the related bits over again, and start from scratch.`
`19:28.28`	`adenardo`	`ok`
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`19:28.53`	`Dr-Linux`	`DrPete: Skinny/SCCP is Cisco propriety stuff`
`19:29.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : Your sip.conf for your phones is usable, as is your zaptel/zapata with some cleanup.`
`19:29.27`	`Dr-Linux`	`often cisco new phone comes with skinny`
`19:29.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : most of the rest is dial-plan`
`19:30.12`	`adenardo`	`k`
`19:30.19`	`Qwell`	`DrPete: yes`
`19:31.15`	`DrPete`	`I might give it a go`
`19:32.24`	`adenardo`	`do I need to clean off the asterisk that's on the box now, or just rebuild from source and that will be enough?`
`19:32.54`	`Qwell`	`Dr-Linux: all cisco phones come with skinny`
`19:33.02`	`Assid`	`why the hell is ilbc so hard on processing?`
`19:33.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : flsuh out the modules folder, download source, and recompile.`
`19:34.06`	`Dr-Linux`	`question, few times i saw some active channels, i thought my those client are talking, but actually they are not making calls, and their active cahnnels are hanged for some reason`
`19:34.34`	`Dr-Linux`	`so how can i get rid of this issue? how can i verify if this channel is active bcoz of a user or it's hanged? :S`
`19:35.06`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender: ok, flushing, downloading and recompiling....`
`19:35.17`	`file`	`http://gallery.joshua-colp.com/main.php?g2_itemId=31 just use SIP.`
`19:35.20`	`Dr-Linux`	`Assid: ilbc is a slim codec but it takes a lot of CPU`
`19:36.42`	`Assid`	`slim`
`19:37.18`	`*** part/#asterisk philm (n=a@r43h15.res.gatech.edu)`
`19:37.32`	`Dr-Linux`	`Assid: maybe my spells are wrong, but .. figureout yourself the correct spelling :S`
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`19:41.39`	`Dr-Linux`	`any clue about my question?`
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`19:45.44`	`adenardo`	`Dr-Linux, was that question to me?`
`19:46.07`	`kio`	`lol, compile open office on my nix: 6hrs, use open office to open/update one document : 15 min, explain to other why gentoo matters: timeless`
`19:46.28`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: no friend, actually i'm having some problems`
`19:46.35`	`adenardo`	`:-)`
`19:46.36`	`Dr-Linux`	`question, few times i saw some active channels, i thought my those client are talking, but actually they are not making calls, and their active cahnnels are hanged for some reason`
`19:46.40`	`Dr-Linux`	`so how can i get rid of this issue? how can i verify if this channel is active bcoz of a user or it's hanged? :S`
`19:46.48`	`file`	`where are you seeing this channel? show channels?`
`19:46.53`	`Qwell`	`file: irc`
`19:46.58`	`file`	`o m g`
`19:47.03`	`Dr-Linux`	`file: show channels`
`19:47.15`	`Qwell`	`#active_channel`
`19:47.20`	`Qwell`	`just /part it`
`19:47.34`	`file`	`IRC GEEK`
`19:47.47`	`Qwell`	`file: need I remind you that you're in #geeks? :P`
`19:47.57`	`file`	`I'm also an op there, but that's a minor detail`
`19:48.01`	`Qwell`	`pfft`
`19:48.07`	`Qwell`	`I don't see no stinkin' @`
`19:48.08`	`Dr-Linux`	`file: then if i suspect, then i call the extension, and ask them, and they are not using anything. so i just do "soft hangup"`
`19:48.16`	`file`	`minor... just like your size!`
`19:48.18`	`file`	`oh oh oh`
`19:48.21`	`file`	`pwnage`
`19:48.26`	`Qwell`	`omg, owned`
`19:48.31`	`Dr-Linux`	`but that's not a solution`
`19:48.32`	`file`	`I think this drink is getting to me`
`19:48.39`	`Qwell`	`file: getting downright rude. :P`
`19:48.51`	`Qwell`	`don't stop :D`
`19:49.03`	`file`	`you know I lovez you so`
`19:49.08`	`Qwell`	`I do. <3`
`19:49.11`	`Dr-Linux`	`Qwell: sorry, i thought you are talking to me :S`
`19:49.52`	`Malthus`	`is there anyway to do block quoting in the config files?`
`19:49.52`	`Dr-Linux`	`@file`
`19:50.26`	`Qwell`	`Malthus: I seem to recall there being one...maybe that was something else though`
`19:50.41`	`Malthus`	`hmm`
`19:50.43`	`Qwell`	`was that asterisk? heh`
`19:50.51`	`Malthus`	`:)`
`19:50.52`	`Malthus`	`yea`
`19:51.04`	`Qwell`	`If there is, I believe it was ;-- line1\nline2 --;, or some such`
`19:51.26`	`Qwell`	`might've been another program altogether, heh`
`19:51.36`	`Malthus`	`:D`
`19:56.04`	`xachen`	`a drunken file?`
`19:56.42`	`file`	`my drink is upstairs`
`19:56.49`	`file`	`and I'm on "thin ice" with my female parental unit right now`
`19:56.54`	`file`	`so I don't know whether I want to go up or not`
`19:56.58`	`Qwell`	`DO IT!`
`19:57.02`	`xachen`	`I see`
`19:57.09`	`xachen`	`yeah`
`19:57.10`	`xachen`	`whast to lose?`
`19:57.21`	`file`	`I should call in from my cellphone so you can hear ^_^`
`19:57.28`	`Qwell`	`file: yes!`
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`19:58.51`	`adenardo`	`should I make samples?`
`19:59.00`	`adenardo`	`asterisk has been installed :-)`
`19:59.05`	`adenardo`	`prolly not`
`19:59.57`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: yes`
`20:00.03`	`adenardo`	`ok`
`20:00.15`	`adenardo`	`done`
`20:00.47`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: asterisk -gcvvvvvvvvvvvv`
`20:01.08`	`adenardo`	`asterisk ready`
`20:01.22`	`file`	`okay... here I go`
`20:01.26`	`file`	`this won't go well, I know it`
`20:02.22`	`adenardo`	`I have 2 analog phones plugged into my LinksysPAP2t`
`20:02.38`	`file`	`ha`
`20:02.42`	`file`	`she won't speak to me!`
`20:02.50`	`Qwell`	`file ftw`
`20:03.04`	`adenardo`	`what first?`
`20:03.13`	`file`	`it's the way it goes`
`20:03.15`	`Dr-Linux`	`file looks drunk :P`
`20:03.15`	`Juggie`	`file what did you do :P`
`20:03.19`	`Qwell`	`it's better that way`
`20:03.40`	`file`	`I come back from a trip all happy and stuff, then she provokes me into saying something and gets upset and doesn't speak to me`
`20:04.02`	`Juggie`	`you didnt forget mothers day did you? :)`
`20:04.15`	`file`	`no`
`20:04.28`	`Juggie`	`did you get flowers?`
`20:04.34`	`adenardo`	`Dr-Linux, where should I start?`
`20:04.42`	`Juggie`	`flowers are a day of peace at least :P`
`20:04.49`	`file`	`plants`
`20:05.22`	`file`	`I'm half tempted to go outside with my parental units and uncle, to see what sort of reaction will occur`
`20:05.35`	`Qwell`	`file: with TWO beers!`
`20:05.35`	`adenardo`	`I have my old /etc/asterisk untarred and available on my console (on another box)`
`20:05.40`	`Qwell`	`or, "drinks" as it were`
`20:05.45`	`xachen`	`aha`
`20:06.07`	`xachen`	`my underlings were wishing MY mom a happy mothers day`
`20:06.16`	`xachen`	`saying they thanked her for having me as they thought I was great`
`20:06.28`	`file`	`either: she'll completely ignore me and any conversation I participate in, not join us at all, or freak out and cause an uproar`
`20:06.33`	`xachen`	`nothing worse than suckups for employees :O`
`20:06.44`	`file`	`xachen: Angela did that to me today too :P`
`20:07.11`	`xachen`	`hehe`
`20:07.26`	`xachen`	`file: So your mom is mad at you?`
`20:07.47`	`file`	`apparently`
`20:07.56`	`xachen`	`you forgot her present didn't you!`
`20:08.01`	`file`	`ask bkw to tell you about the time she found out I had an iPod...`
`20:08.09`	`Qwell`	`OMG, AN IPOD?!`
`20:08.12`	`file`	`I was on the conference... didn't turn it off or mute it...`
`20:08.15`	`file`	`so everyone heard it`
`20:08.16`	`Qwell`	`WTF DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?! OMG`
`20:08.24`	`Qwell`	`EVIL SON`
`20:08.32`	`adenardo`	`Dr-Linux, what order should I begin on my config files?`
`20:08.45`	`xachen`	`my 85 year old aunt found out I worked on the net`
`20:08.49`	`xachen`	`and told me the evils of the net`
`20:08.53`	`xachen`	`and how I'd end up a street bum`
`20:08.56`	`Qwell`	`file: She flipped because you had one, or what?`
`20:08.59`	`xachen`	`and said they must be paying me peanuts`
`20:09.01`	`file`	`Qwell: yes`
`20:09.04`	`file`	`and took it away for part of the day`
`20:09.13`	`xachen`	`overposesive mother :O`
`20:09.17`	`Qwell`	`wtf`
`20:09.23`	`wunderkin`	`did she put you in timeout?`
`20:09.24`	`Qwell`	`She took away your ipod?`
`20:09.35`	`file`	`this was... a year and a half ago`
`20:09.45`	`Qwell`	`ooo, minor file :D`
`20:10.17`	`xachen`	`file: You know what to buy her now... you should go get one!`
`20:10.22`	`file`	`ha`
`20:10.24`	`xachen`	`she's waiting for that present!`
`20:10.44`	`xachen`	`we all know when she took it away she was doing the whole ipod commercial silohette thing`
`20:10.50`	`xachen`	`(i saw her on TV)`
`20:11.15`	`file`	`so, I'm pondering how best to handle the situation right now`
`20:11.28`	`xachen`	`What did you tell her?`
`20:11.45`	`Qwell`	`file: ignore the situation completely`
`20:11.51`	`xachen`	`I would`
`20:11.53`	`file`	`Qwell: that usually works`
`20:12.10`	`xachen`	`your a big boy! Not like she is gonna ground you`
`20:12.23`	`Qwell`	`heh, she could try`
`20:13.44`	`file`	`where's my cellphone...`
`20:14.01`	`Qwell`	`your mom answered`
`20:14.21`	`file`	`ha`
`20:14.45`	`xachen`	`heh`
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`20:15.02`	`xachen`	`Qwell: "I just was wondering when Josh wanted to go out for a date"`
`20:15.06`	`xachen`	`be the hellion!`
`20:15.12`	`file`	`:D`
`20:15.46`	`xachen`	`call her back, talk dirty, "Oh sorry. I thought you were Josh"`
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`20:18.12`	`Dr-Linux`	`file, go for other girl`
`20:19.09`	`web_ustaad`	`anyone had experience using sphinx`
`20:19.17`	`file`	`and away I hop`
`20:20.29`	`file`	`HA'`
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`20:23.25`	`Malthus`	`how do I declare a label in extensions.conf`
`20:23.27`	`Malthus`	`?`
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`20:27.27`	`Miami278`	`If I have an E1 card I can get an FXO for like 40$ right?`
`20:28.18`	`docelm0`	`huh?`
`20:28.39`	`docelm0`	`E1 != FXO`
`20:29.20`	`Malthus`	`Miami278, you have an E1 card? whats the FXO card for then?`
`20:29.48`	`Malthus`	`you have both an E1 and an analog line?`
`20:30.13`	`Greek-Boy`	`there is a casino that wants to use their asterisk and at the same time connect to the hotel's pbx. They have 12 analogue lines from that pbx. should we just use normal fxo and zap?`
`20:30.39`	`Malthus`	`depends on the PBX`
`20:30.47`	`Malthus`	`are they digital lines or analog?`
`20:30.53`	`Greek-Boy`	`analog`
`20:31.03`	`Malthus`	`you should be good to go then`
`20:31.22`	`Malthus`	`you can connect 'regular' phones to them, right?`
`20:31.28`	`Greek-Boy`	`yip`
`20:32.03`	`Greek-Boy`	`i'll map everything in such a way that a incoming call on a particular zap goes to a particular sip phone`
`20:32.06`	`Greek-Boy`	`etc`
`20:32.47`	`Malthus`	`can the PBX do DID signaling on those analog channels?`
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`20:33.07`	`Greek-Boy`	`i hope so`
`20:33.17`	`Greek-Boy`	`apparantly it can do caller id so i guess the answer is yes?`
`20:33.29`	`Malthus`	`then you could map more than 12 numbers`
`20:34.02`	`Malthus`	`not necessarily`
`20:34.53`	`Greek-Boy`	`well the bright side of having one line per phone is that every1 can be talking to the hotel pbx at the same time :P`
`20:35.11`	`Malthus`	`true`
`20:35.17`	`Greek-Boy`	`but i guess DID signalling would be needed if we had more phones in the future without having to add more lines`
`20:35.49`	`docelm0`	`DID signalling? WTF?`
`20:35.57`	`docelm0`	`Who comes up with these terms?`
`20:36.07`	`Dr-Linux`	`what is DID signalling?`
`20:36.13`	`docelm0`	`Fuck if I know`
`20:36.21`	`Malthus`	`DID wink?`
`20:36.23`	`docelm0`	`I have been doing telecom for 3 years now and this is a first`
`20:36.29`	`docelm0`	`try again`
`20:36.35`	`docelm0`	`E&M wink`
`20:36.35`	`Qwell`	`E&M wink?`
`20:36.38`	`docelm0`	`no DID`
`20:36.42`	`Dr-Linux`	`do you know Wink ?`
`20:36.44`	`Dr-Linux`	`CAS ?`
`20:36.48`	`Malthus`	`no`
`20:36.51`	`docelm0`	`yes I do`
`20:36.53`	`Malthus`	`not digital cas`
`20:37.01`	`docelm0`	`my NEC lagecy Key uses it`
`20:37.06`	`Greek-Boy`	`lol`
`20:37.11`	`Malthus`	`analog DID wink`
`20:37.26`	`docelm0`	`stop with DID and wINK`
`20:37.32`	`docelm0`	`you have POTS`
`20:37.35`	`docelm0`	`geesh`
`20:37.51`	`docelm0`	`FXO / FXS nothing more or less`
`20:38.10`	`Dr-Linux`	`ant that is "ks"`
`20:38.11`	`docelm0`	`Just have to figure out ground/loop start on your on your way`
`20:38.43`	`Malthus`	`http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=analog+did+signaling&btnG=Google+Search`
`20:39.00`	`Malthus`	`it exists, it really does`
`20:39.24`	`docelm0`	`DIRECT INWARD DIALING`
`20:39.26`	`docelm0`	`geesh`
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`20:40.05`	`Dr-Linux`	`:S`
`20:40.11`	`Dr-Linux`	`wtf is geesh?`
`20:40.12`	`docelm0`	`dude.. ignore DID signaling`
`20:40.36`	`docelm0`	`you will look dumb and no one like now will understand what your trying to accomplish`
`20:40.48`	`docelm0`	`DID == Direct Inward Dialing nothing more or less`
`20:40.51`	`Malthus`	`huh?`
`20:41.14`	`Malthus`	`yeah, I'm fine with that part`
`20:41.24`	`docelm0`	`Greek-Boy figure out if your pbx uses ground or loop start for its FXO ports`
`20:42.07`	`Greek-Boy`	`i'll find out`
`20:42.12`	`docelm0`	`You will need FXS ports in your asterisk box and then your good to go`
`20:42.15`	`Dr-Linux`	`DID:`
`20:42.17`	`Dr-Linux`	`Direct Inward Dial. A specially configured phone line from the telephone company that allows for dialing inside a company directly without having to go through an attendant. A DID line cannot be used for outdial operation since there is no dialtone offered. However, it can be configured so an outside caller can reach an inside extension with a 7-digit number through the phone company's central office.`
`20:42.37`	`justinu\|laptop`	`there is such thing as DID signalling`
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`20:42.48`	`justinu\|laptop`	`it's far outdated tho`
`20:43.08`	`Malthus`	`all analog is far outdated :)`
`20:43.12`	`justinu\|laptop`	`I remember using the dialogic DID/120 boards`
`20:43.15`	`Greek-Boy`	`so I need FXS? not FXO?`
`20:43.20`	`justinu\|laptop`	`connected to analog DID lines`
`20:43.35`	`docelm0`	`FXS for connecting to your pbx yes`
`20:43.43`	`docelm0`	`depends on how you want to configure them`
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`20:44.15`	`Greek-Boy`	`i think you're fight. FXS coz those lines were intented for normal analogue phones`
`20:44.26`	`Malthus`	`Greek-Boy, fxo interfaces, but fxs signaling`
`20:44.32`	`lzhang`	`My asterisk install is hanging right at the point where it should start loading the modules... can anybody point me at what I should be looking for to fix this?`
`20:44.46`	`docelm0`	`Can you have FXO w/ FXS signaling?`
`20:44.50`	`docelm0`	`that doesnt sound right either`
`20:45.04`	`Dr-Linux`	`Greek-Boy: who is fight? :S`
`20:45.14`	`docelm0`	`lzhang type asterisk -vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvc`
`20:45.19`	`docelm0`	`it will tell you which one hangs`
`20:45.29`	`docelm0`	`well the last to load will be the one hanging`
`20:45.31`	`adenardo`	`arrgh...no dialtone`
`20:45.58`	`adenardo`	`I created a new zaptel.conf, zapata.conf, sip.con and extensions.conf. what am I forgetting?`
`20:46.04`	`Greek-Boy`	`well i'm not sure`
`20:46.26`	`Greek-Boy`	`all i know is FXS is for analogue phones, FXO is for analogue POTS lines`
`20:46.28`	`lzhang`	`docelm0: it doesn't seem to load any modules, it hangs right after "Asterisk Event Logger Started /var/log/asterisk/event_log"`
`20:46.40`	`Greek-Boy`	`and the 12 lines I have were intended for analogue phones`
`20:46.42`	`justinu\|laptop`	`the signalling is always reversed for FXO/FXS`
`20:46.46`	`Greek-Boy`	`so im thinking i need FXS?`
`20:46.51`	`justinu\|laptop`	`if you have an FXO module, you use FXS signalling on it`
`20:46.52`	`znoG`	`OT question: can anyone suggest a way I can assign my FXO card its own IRQ? the closer to IRQ 1 the better... the BIOS just lets me set each IRQ as PCI PnP or Legacy ISA... I miss the old Compaq BIOS that lets you set an IRQ for each specific card in the system`
`20:46.53`	`justinu\|laptop`	`and vice versa`
`20:47.01`	`adenardo`	`Dr-Linux, any ideas?`
`20:47.20`	`Greek-Boy`	`justinu\|laptop, so if i I have FXS module i can use it on POTS lines as FXO?`
`20:47.30`	`Dr-Linux`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:47.37`	`justinu\|laptop`	`no, if you have an FXS module, you can connect it to a telephone using FXO signalling`
`20:48.17`	`docelm0`	`justinu\|laptop this is getting confusing.. it seems easier when it has to be done`
`20:48.17`	`adenardo`	`Dr-Linux, I created a new zaptel.conf, zapata.conf, sip.con and extensions.conf. what am I forgetting?`
`20:48.24`	`justinu\|laptop`	`heh`
`20:48.28`	`adenardo`	`Dr-Linux, I have no dialtone`
`20:48.42`	`docelm0`	`adenardo your asking him.. He's newbish`
`20:48.45`	`docelm0`	`:)`
`20:48.45`	`Malthus`	`no dialtone on what?`
`20:48.46`	`justinu\|laptop`	`FXS modules are for connecting telephones to asterisk (they generate the talk battery, and the ringing voltage)`
`20:48.58`	`justinu\|laptop`	`FXO modules are for connecting POTS lines from your telco to asterisk`
`20:49.02`	`Greek-Boy`	`so I need a FXO card and then do FXS signalling?`
`20:49.04`	`docelm0`	`FXS == phone FXO == CO`
`20:49.04`	`adenardo`	`Malthus, extension 216`
`20:49.08`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: yeah docelm0 is right :)`
`20:49.09`	`justinu\|laptop`	`Greek-Boy: correct.`
`20:49.26`	`justinu\|laptop`	`FXS signalling, because you are the "station" in that scenario`
`20:49.30`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: did you configured your these config file?`
`20:49.42`	`Dr-Linux`	`configure*`
`20:49.42`	`justinu\|laptop`	`FXS module, uses FXO (office) signalling to drive your phones.`
`20:49.55`	`adenardo`	`Dr-Linux, don't know what that is`
`20:50.06`	`Greek-Boy`	`oh i c`
`20:50.20`	`docelm0`	`What cant you get dialtone from adenardo`
`20:50.23`	`justinu\|laptop`	`it's confusing, but just remember to use the opposite signalling method, for your module.`
`20:50.30`	`docelm0`	`ZAP/IAX/SIP?`
`20:50.36`	`adenardo`	`ZAP`
`20:50.42`	`Greek-Boy`	`justinu\|laptop, is that in every case or just my scenario?`
`20:50.44`	`docelm0`	`Did you compile the drivers?`
`20:50.47`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: you need to read more,`
`20:50.51`	`justinu\|laptop`	`Greek-Boy: always.`
`20:50.53`	`docelm0`	`did you setup zapata.conf/zaptel.conf`
`20:50.57`	`adenardo`	`docelm0, yes`
`20:51.01`	`Greek-Boy`	`ok`
`20:51.05`	`docelm0`	`what card do you have?`
`20:51.13`	`Greek-Boy`	`dont have the card yet`
`20:51.24`	`adenardo`	`docelm0, Digium FXO`
`20:51.27`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: you need to configure your zapata.conf , sip.conf and extensions.conf .. few more depends on your need`
`20:51.34`	`docelm0`	`Greek-Boy if your gonna do a bunch of em get the tdm2400`
`20:51.40`	`docelm0`	`best bang for yer buck`
`20:51.45`	`adenardo`	`Dr-Linux, I configured all those, and have no dialtone`
`20:51.54`	`adenardo`	`Dr-Linux, that was my question...what did I miss?`
`20:51.57`	`docelm0`	`dialtone on what? a handset?`
`20:52.01`	`adenardo`	`docelm0, yes`
`20:52.03`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: can you pastebin your zapata.conf ?`
`20:52.12`	`docelm0`	`type ztcfg and see if you get errors`
`20:52.13`	`Greek-Boy`	`can i configure asterisk so that incoming calls on ZAP will ring the respective sip phones and only answer when the person answers on the sip phone? Ie, asterisk doesn't answer the call unless the sip phone user answers?`
`20:52.26`	`justinu\|laptop`	`yes`
`20:52.28`	`docelm0`	`yes`
`20:52.31`	`adenardo`	`docelm0, no errors`
`20:52.47`	`docelm0`	`check your signaling configuration`
`20:52.48`	`Dr-Linux`	`adenardo: what fxo card you have plugged to your machine?`
`20:53.01`	`docelm0`	`hold up.. You have a FXO and you plugged a phone into it?`
`20:53.22`	`docelm0`	`FXO == CO FXS == phone`
`20:53.57`	`Dr-Linux`	`lolz`
`20:53.59`	`adenardo`	`docelm0, no`
`20:54.13`	`Dr-Linux`	`fxo/fxs concept is funny :)`
`20:54.26`	`adenardo`	`my config: qwest phone line <--->FXO card`
`20:54.59`	`adenardo`	`my config (cont'd): asterisk server with FXO card <---> LinksysPAP2T <--> 2 handsets`
`20:55.12`	`adenardo`	`that's it`
`20:55.21`	`Greek-Boy`	`so can i configure it that way?`
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`20:56.30`	`lzhang`	`php is fun`
`20:56.33`	`adenardo`	`; Zapata telephony interface`
`20:56.33`	`adenardo`	`;`
`20:56.33`	`adenardo`	`; Configuration file`
`20:56.33`	`adenardo`	`[trunkgroups]`
`20:56.34`	`adenardo`	`[channels]`
`20:56.36`	`adenardo`	`language=en`
`20:56.38`	`Qwell`	`~pb`
`20:56.40`	`jbot`	`it has been said that pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca`
`20:56.40`	`adenardo`	`context=from-pstn`
`20:56.40`	`De_Mon`	`die`
`20:56.41`	`adenardo`	`signalling=fxs_ks`
`20:56.42`	`adenardo`	`rxwink=300 ; Atlas seems to use long (250ms) winks`
`20:56.42`	`De_Mon`	`die -die -die`
`20:56.44`	`adenardo`	`;`
`20:56.46`	`adenardo`	`; Whether or not to do distinctive ring detection on FXO lines`
`20:56.48`	`adenardo`	`;`
`20:56.50`	`adenardo`	`;usedistinctiveringdetection=yes`
`20:56.52`	`adenardo`	`usecallerid=yes`
`20:56.53`	`De_Mon`	`kick?`
`20:56.54`	`adenardo`	`hidecallerid=no`
`20:56.56`	`adenardo`	`callwaiting=yes`
`20:56.58`	`adenardo`	`usecallingpres=yes`
`20:56.58`	`dlynes_home`	`copying and pasting is fun fun fun`
`20:57.02`	`adenardo`	`callwaitingcallerid=yes`
`20:57.04`	`adenardo`	`threewaycalling=yes`
`20:57.06`	`adenardo`	`transfer=yes`
`20:57.08`	`adenardo`	`cancallforward=yes`
`20:57.10`	`adenardo`	`callreturn=yes`
`20:57.11`	`De_Mon`	`killing copy and pasters is funner`
`20:57.12`	`adenardo`	`echocancel=yes`
`20:57.14`	`adenardo`	`echocancelwhenbridged=no`
`20:57.16`	`adenardo`	`echotraining=800`
`20:57.18`	`adenardo`	`rxgain=0.0`
`20:57.20`	`adenardo`	`txgain=0.0`
`20:57.22`	`adenardo`	`group=0`
`20:57.24`	`adenardo`	`callgroup=1`
`20:57.26`	`adenardo`	`pickupgroup=1`
`20:57.28`	`adenardo`	`immediate=no`
`20:57.32`	`adenardo`	`context=default`
`20:57.34`	`adenardo`	`;faxdetect=both`
`20:57.36`	`adenardo`	`faxdetect=incoming`
`20:57.36`	`justinu\|laptop`	`dude`
`20:57.38`	`adenardo`	`;faxdetect=outgoing`
`20:57.40`	`adenardo`	`;faxdetect=no`
`20:57.42`	`adenardo`	`;Include genzaptelconf configs`
`20:57.44`	`adenardo`	`#include zapata-auto.conf`
`20:57.46`	`adenardo`	`group=1`
`20:57.48`	`adenardo`	`oops, sorry`
`20:58.43`	`justinu\|laptop`	`Greek-Boy: what is it you want to do?`
`20:58.53`	`adenardo`	`http://pastebin.com/717580 for zapata.conf`
`20:58.58`	`adenardo`	`sorry about the flood`
`20:59.26`	`Greek-Boy`	`configure asterisk so that incoming calls on ZAP will ring the respective sip phones and only answer when the person answers on the sip phone? Ie, asterisk doesn't answer the call unless the sip phone user answers?`
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`21:00.48`	`justinu\|laptop`	`Greek-Boy: yes, absolutely possible.`
`21:01.11`	`justinu\|laptop`	`it's one line in your dialplan`
`21:01.40`	`Greek-Boy`	`ok`
`21:01.41`	`Greek-Boy`	`good`
`21:01.46`	`Greek-Boy`	`i'm a newbie as u can tell :P`
`21:01.52`	`justinu\|laptop`	`no prob`
`21:02.15`	`adenardo`	`Dr-Linux, did you see my pastebin?`
`21:02.20`	`De_Mon`	`one line for each peer?`
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`21:05.04`	`justinu\|laptop`	`adenardo, you'll get it working here for free... be patient and ask intelligent questions`
`21:05.34`	`De_Mon`	`adenardo is your zaptel module working?`
`21:05.38`	`adenardo`	`yes`
`21:05.42`	`*** part/#asterisk Oxbow (n=Oxbow@86.71.138.203)`
`21:05.43`	`Greek-Boy`	`in the near future I will need to find use asterisk for something a bit more complex. Phoning people and recording their acknowledgements. But the reporting system needs to be good`
`21:06.01`	`De_Mon`	`reporting system?`
`21:06.15`	`Greek-Boy`	`yeah`
`21:06.17`	`De_Mon`	`as in cdr logging?`
`21:06.25`	`Greek-Boy`	`cdr too`
`21:06.41`	`De_Mon`	`what does reporting system mean to you?`
`21:06.42`	`Greek-Boy`	`but also the ability to tell if the user acknowleged`
`21:06.43`	`adenardo`	`De_Mon, how could I confirm that? the module is loaded`
`21:06.46`	`justinu\|laptop`	`well, asterisk CDRs are pretty limited`
`21:06.51`	`justinu\|laptop`	`but you can augment them with whatever you wan`
`21:07.39`	`Flauto`	`i got the crontab work done`
`21:07.52`	`Flauto`	`now my sip reload every 55 minutes`
`21:07.54`	`Flauto`	`hehe`
`21:08.09`	`Greek-Boy`	`why do u relaod ur sip so often?`
`21:08.34`	`Qwell`	`Flauto: every 55, or every hour on the 55?`
`21:08.55`	`Flauto`	`every hour on the 55`
`21:09.10`	`Flauto`	`that is also every 55 minutes`
`21:09.12`	`Flauto`	`right?`
`21:09.18`	`De_Mon`	`... no`
`21:09.19`	`Malthus`	`:)`
`21:09.19`	`Qwell`	`...no`
`21:09.23`	`Qwell`	`De_Mon: :p`
`21:09.27`	`Flauto`	`oh`
`21:09.27`	`De_Mon`	`from 1:55 to 2:55 is how long?`
`21:09.29`	`Flauto`	`every hour`
`21:09.32`	`Flauto`	`hehe`
`21:09.33`	`Flauto`	`sorry`
`21:09.35`	`Flauto`	`my bad`
`21:09.46`	`justinu\|laptop`	`pwned`
`21:10.15`	`*** join/#asterisk new_to_asterisk (n=new_to_a@64.27.130.150)`
`21:10.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Only 3 kinds of people in this world..- those that know math... and those that don't :)`
`21:11.02`	`adenardo`	`what is required for asterisk to generate a dialtone on a analog handset connected to a LinksysPAP2T?`
`21:11.04`	`De_Mon`	`[TK]D-Fender I must be in the 3rd category`
`21:12.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : The ATA provides dialtone once it successfully registers.`
`21:12.19`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, how do I confirm its registration?`
`21:12.32`	`Malthus`	`sip show peers`
`21:12.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : Getting dialtone is a good hint ;)`
`21:12.47`	`Malthus`	`:)`
`21:13.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Circular Logic 101 strikes again!`
`21:13.12`	`*** join/#asterisk s0lid (n=s0lid@210.213.241.133)`
`21:13.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : "sip show peers" is a good idea too.`
`21:13.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : and "sip show registry" I think (not sure if thats only for OUTBOND registrations though)`
`21:13.56`	`adenardo`	`sip show peers, shows the two handsets I have plugged into the device`
`21:14.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : congrats, if zaptel's up then all thats left is dial-plan`
`21:14.23`	`adenardo`	`woo hoo!`
`21:14.35`	`adenardo`	`lemme paste what I have into pb`
`21:15.30`	`znoG`	`OT question: can anyone suggest a way I can assign my FXO card its own IRQ? the closer to IRQ 1 the better... the BIOS just lets me set each IRQ as PCI PnP or Legacy ISA... I miss the old Compaq BIOS that lets you set an IRQ for each specific card in the system`
`21:15.52`	`adenardo`	`717608`
`21:15.53`	`justinu\|laptop`	`change the slot`
`21:16.02`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, is my extensions.conf`
`21:16.38`	`*** join/#asterisk chaoscon (n=ph33r@smartserv/ceo/chaoscon)`
`21:16.55`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, I cut a pasted that from my @home configs`
`21:17.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : If you just rebuilt * from scratch, dith extensions.conf from @home and DIY.`
`21:19.33`	`*** join/#asterisk neoXite (n=neoxite@xdsl-87-78-120-168.netcologne.de)`
`21:21.47`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, ok, I only kept those 10 lines`
`21:21.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : pastebin and link please`
`21:22.20`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, pastebin.com/717608`
`21:23.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : Looks somewhat functional.`
`21:23.59`	`*** join/#asterisk Johnnie (n=jdlewis@pdpc/supporter/active/Johnnie)`
`21:24.12`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, I get a fast busy when I dial a local #`
`21:26.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : so "sip debug" at CLI and see if its * refusing the call or the ATA.`
`21:26.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : And while you're at it pastebin your sip.conf`
`21:29.20`	`new_to_asterisk`	`whats a healthy amount of RAM for a dedictated * system running redhat es4 as the base? 1gig? or less?`
`21:29.37`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, 717629`
`21:29.44`	`Qwell`	`19gb`
`21:29.47`	`Qwell`	`exactly`
`21:30.26`	`new_to_asterisk`	`the point of my question was i was wondering how memory intensive asterisk was`
`21:31.09`	`Assid`	`memory .. little`
`21:31.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`#`
`21:31.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`May 14 15:21:06 NOTICE[687]: app_dial.c:1029 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'Zap' (cause 0 - Unknown)`
`21:31.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`#`
`21:31.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:31.27`	`Assid`	`its the cpu which is MW`
`21:31.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : taht says it all....`
`21:31.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : Bad zap config, or line in use.`
`21:31.44`	`Assid`	`no zap ?`
`21:32.11`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, the line is not in uese`
`21:32.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : then its not set up right`
`21:32.34`	`adenardo`	`drat`
`21:33.00`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, when I reinstalled *, I edited zaptel.conf, and it said it had been autogenerated`
`21:37.57`	`adenardo`	`uh oh`
`21:38.02`	`adenardo`	`now I'm Unable to connect to remote asterisk`
`21:39.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : No doubt because a defective Zaptel config is causing * to fail to load`
`21:40.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Kill the genzaptel script and roll your own.`
`21:45.04`	`adenardo`	`how do I restart asterisk?`
`21:46.27`	`adenardo`	`maybe it doesn't need to be restarted`
`21:46.39`	`adenardo`	`what does /var/run/asterisk.ctl do?`
`21:46.48`	`Qwell`	`adenardo: pipe`
`21:47.47`	`adenardo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:47.47`	`adenardo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:48.03`	`Qwell`	`then asterisk isn't running`
`21:48.31`	`adenardo`	`how do I restart it?`
`21:48.37`	`Qwell`	`asterisk`
`21:49.05`	`adenardo`	`that didn't help`
`21:49.11`	`Qwell`	`asterisk -vvvvvvvc`
`21:49.14`	`Qwell`	`see why it isn't loading`
`21:50.15`	`adenardo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:50.32`	`adenardo`	`ERROR[2971]: pbx_dundi.c:4771 load_module: Unable to bind to 0.0.0.0 port 4520: Address already in use`
`21:51.11`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, something dreadful happened when I ran genzaptelconf`
`21:52.37`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, now I can't restart asterisk`
`21:52.55`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, any ideas?`
`21:53.09`	`Malthus`	`ps aux\|grep asterisk`
`21:53.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : Stop that script from trashing your zaptel & zapata, and fix them.`
`21:54.12`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, the script is stopped. now to fix`
`21:54.21`	`Malthus`	`is there any way for asterisk to provide 3-way to analog phones behind a SIP gateway that doesn't do 3-way?`
`21:56.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Malthus : What sip gateway?`
`21:56.37`	`Malthus`	`audiocodes mediapack 124`
`21:56.57`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, ok, I put zaptel and zapata back to what they were before I ran the config script`
`21:57.04`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, however, asterisk still won't load`
`21:57.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Malthus : Last I recall all the AudioCodes support 3-way`
`21:58.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : run ztcfg -vvvv and check for errors`
`21:58.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`and check "cat /proc/interrupts" and make sure your card is listed`
`21:58.34`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, no errors, 1 channel configured`
`21:59.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : manually start * by "asterisk -gvvvvvc" and see where it fails`
`21:59.23`	`Malthus`	`oh`
`21:59.34`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, ERROR[4933]: pbx_dundi.c:4771 load_module: Unable to bind to 0.0.0.0 port 4520: Address already in use`
`22:00.50`	`jpabuyer`	`fuser 4520/tcp`
`22:02.24`	`jpabuyer`	`and then ps ax\|grep number-showed-with-the-previous-command`
`22:04.43`	`*** join/#asterisk redondos (n=redondos@190.48.58.206)`
`22:04.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : well theres the problem. networking it seems, or an old invalid module. Did you clear the modules folder before compiling and reinstalling?`
`22:05.07`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, yes`
`22:05.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : When in doubt disable dundi`
`22:05.24`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, don't know how to do that`
`22:05.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : Kill the associated .so module.`
`22:05.44`	`adenardo`	`k`
`22:09.13`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, ERROR[4955]: chan_zap.c:6878 mkintf: Unable to open channel 1: Device or resource busy`
`22:09.13`	`adenardo`	`here = 0, tmp->channel = 1, channel = 1`
`22:09.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Did you do a FULL rebuild? Downlad the latest *, Zaptel and EVERYTHING?`
`22:09.51`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, I downloaded the asterisk source`
`22:09.53`	`*** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@10.80-203-106.nextgentel.com)`
`22:09.56`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, only`
`22:10.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : you need Zaptel to match...`
`22:10.08`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, k`
`22:10.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`and that means recompiling BOTH now.`
`22:10.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`in proper order`
`22:10.32`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, ok`
`22:11.22`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, what do I need to cleanup before I recompile?`
`22:11.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : /usr/lib/asterisk/modules should be wiped`
`22:12.17`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, wiped`
`22:14.05`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, got * 1.2.7.1 & zaptel 1.2.5`
`22:14.21`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, recompiling * then zaptel`
`22:15.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`reverse the order`
`22:15.09`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, ok`
`22:15.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`zaptel needs to be compiled first to be included into *`
`22:18.49`	`adenardo`	`zaptel built`
`22:18.53`	`adenardo`	`& installed`
`22:19.06`	`adenardo`	`* compiling`
`22:24.29`	`Damin`	`Hmm.. this is new..`
`22:24.30`	`Damin`	`[root@gw1 zaptel]# make update`
`22:24.30`	`Damin`	`Updating from Subversion...`
`22:24.30`	`Damin`	`At revision 1054.`
`22:24.37`	`Damin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:25.59`	`redondos`	`I'm having a problem in which music on hold. It seems that it starts playing, but for about half a second, and then the music stops. The console doesn't show an error or anything.`
`22:26.00`	`wunderkin`	`urinate on operator?`
`22:26.07`	`redondos`	`It happens with mp3s and wavs.`
`22:27.46`	`redondos`	`Has anyone experienced this?`
`22:30.10`	`*** join/#asterisk CrummyGummy (n=wayne@dsl-145-75-144.telkomadsl.co.za)`
`22:32.42`	`*** join/#asterisk franck (n=franck@tikiwiki/franck)`
`22:32.59`	`franck`	`Hi, I get: chan_sip.c: Don't know how to indicate condition 4`
`22:33.21`	`franck`	`and channel.c: Unable to handle indication 4 for 'SIP/281-ce9e'`
`22:33.32`	`franck`	`Does anybody know what it is due for?`
`22:34.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`franck : Some devices is reporting back presence data that chan_sip doesn't know how to interpret IINM`
`22:35.43`	`franck`	`I moved from ABE to asterisk 1.2 to be able to use freePBX but now I get a lot of echo on the SIP side of a SIP to PSTN call via ZAP`
`22:35.51`	`franck`	`and now I get this message too`
`22:35.54`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, asterisk rebuilt, installed, and samples made`
`22:36.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : then yuo just lost your config`
`22:36.32`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, I saved it first`
`22:36.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : ok, well go test`
`22:36.46`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, and * gives me the same error when I try to restart it`
`22:37.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`which?`
`22:37.10`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, ERROR[13274]: pbx_dundi.c:4771 load_module: Unable to bind to 0.0.0.0 port 4520: Address already in use`
`22:37.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : go re-kill dundi`
`22:37.24`	`franck`	`I have also chan_zap.c: Unable to request echo training on channel 4 with a digium card`
`22:39.02`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, :-)`
`22:39.13`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, asterisk ready!`
`22:40.09`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, which files should I copy from my former config?`
`22:40.20`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, sip.conf, zaptel.con, extensions.conf?`
`22:41.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : zaptel first. then test.`
`22:41.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sip & extensions can be rebuilt easy at any time`
`22:41.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`verify hardware first`
`22:42.08`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, zaptel.conf is 3 lines. how do I test?`
`22:42.18`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, I have a dial tone`
`22:42.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`zaptel/zapata as a pair`
`22:42.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`start * and see if it crashes out.`
`22:43.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`if not , bring in the rest.`
`22:43.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`then try it`
`22:43.07`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, its running`
`22:43.25`	`adenardo`	`asterisk is running`
`22:43.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : so try dialing out.`
`22:43.55`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, fast busy`
`22:44.10`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, immediately upon dialing the 7th number`
`22:44.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : and in CLI?`
`22:45.09`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, nothing`
`22:45.17`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, I need to set it to debug somehow`
`22:45.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : could be your ATA doesn't like the #`
`22:45.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : verify it's dialplan.`
`22:46.05`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, I hadn't copied those files into /etc/asterisk yet`
`22:48.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : without extensions.conf I'm not surprised you're DOA`
`22:48.27`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, same thing as before (referring to my last pb)`
`22:48.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`and SIP.conf esp :)`
`22:48.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : pastebin it agagin, and please directly paste the full URL`
`22:48.46`	`adenardo`	`Unable to create channel of type 'Zap'`
`22:48.54`	`adenardo`	`k`
`22:49.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : apstebin your full zaptel / zapata setup`
`22:57.03`	`*** join/#asterisk robin_sz (n=robin@adsl.redpoint.org.uk)`
`22:57.47`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, http://pastebin.com/717745`
`22:57.48`	`sevard`	`adenardo: do they say things like ;LULZ DIS IS FOR TEH SEX LINE`
`22:58.09`	`adenardo`	`sevard, heheh`
`22:58.44`	`adenardo`	`what a luxury it would be to have a sex line, considering right now I can't even make a local call!`
`22:58.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : You have no channel declaration in your zapata.conf.`
`22:59.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`at the tail end of all of that you shoudl have "channel => 1`
`22:59.38`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, ok, adding channel => 1`
`23:00.06`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, without the quote, right?`
`23:00.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`correct`
`23:00.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I meant to encase it implying you don't need them, but I can't type today.`
`23:01.28`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, no worries :-) added the channel statement, reloaded, Unable to create channel of type 'Zap`
`23:02.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : and restarted *?`
`23:02.37`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, no`
`23:02.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo .....`
`23:02.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`cough`
`23:02.54`	`sevard`	`heh.`
`23:03.06`	`sevard`	`that is some funny shit right there`
`23:03.35`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, restarted *, same result`
`23:03.43`	`sevard`	`how did you restard`
`23:03.47`	`sevard`	`restart*`
`23:03.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : HOW did you restart it if I might ask?`
`23:03.57`	`adenardo`	`*CLI> restart gracefully`
`23:04.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Hmmm`
`23:04.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pastebin the new zapata.conf`
`23:05.15`	`adenardo`	`http://pastebin.com/717757`
`23:05.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : kill that include....`
`23:05.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : that wasn't there before.... holding anything else back?`
`23:06.01`	`sevard`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:06.43`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, it WAS there before`
`23:06.47`	`sevard`	`how much you had to drink tonight, boie`
`23:07.02`	`robin_sz`	`so ... heres one for ya, on both locally routed ISDN calls, and calls routed to our SIP provider, we get occasional one-sided calls (they can hear us, we cant hear them) clues?`
`23:07.12`	`robin_sz`	`like one call in 10`
`23:07.13`	`*** join/#asterisk jeffgus (n=jeffgus@greengables.zimage.com)`
`23:07.18`	`sevard`	`adenardo: are you sure you plugged your telephone line intothe correct rj11 jack`
`23:07.23`	`sevard`	`as you are only using one channel`
`23:07.24`	`robin_sz`	`no very occasional, more like regular`
`23:07.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`not in this... http://pastebin.com/717745`
`23:07.47`	`adenardo`	`sevard, my VCR does NOT blink 12:00!`
`23:07.57`	`sevard`	`bullllllllcrap`
`23:08.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Three cheers for electrical tape!`
`23:08.12`	`sevard`	`hahaha`
`23:08.20`	`sevard`	`that's an excellent response`
`23:08.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I pull NO punches :D`
`23:08.34`	`robin_sz`	`three cheers for my wife bringing a nice G&T :)`
`23:08.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And my rapier wit is pure martensite :D`
`23:08.49`	`sevard`	`heh`
`23:09.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : I'll drink to taht`
`23:09.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : so finished flushing the AMP leftovers?`
`23:09.57`	`sevard`	`god, he's converting over from AMP?>`
`23:09.57`	`robin_sz`	`[TK]D-Fender, Gordons, ice cold, good tonic and a slice of lime`
`23:10.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sevard : Hallelujah!`
`23:10.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : Unfortunately I don't really drink....`
`23:10.26`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, got rid of the include lines, and restarted *`
`23:10.39`	`sevard`	`what a pain. I did that shit a couple of months ago. the best thing is to back up your configs, remove everything * related, and reinstall.`
`23:10.41`	`robin_sz`	`[TK]D-Fender, me neither .. im still practising`
`23:10.52`	`adenardo`	`sevard, that's exactly what I did`
`23:11.47`	`robin_sz`	`[TK]D-Fender, when I was at college, i practised at drinking so hard, that they let me have a year off.`
`23:11.59`	`sevard`	`practiced`
`23:12.09`	`robin_sz`	`yes, that too`
`23:12.24`	`sevard`	`wouldn't have said anything but you did it twice ;\`
`23:13.19`	`robin_sz`	`well, thats ok, because it wasnt incorrectly spelt`
`23:13.34`	`adenardo`	`canadian, eh?`
`23:13.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I love how a doctor's business once they leaves school is called a "practice". Shouldn't they have finished that BEFORE leaving? I sure as shit wouldn't want to be one of their early patients!`
`23:13.57`	`robin_sz`	`sevard, http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=practised`
`23:14.16`	`robin_sz`	`adenardo, no, English`
`23:14.41`	`adenardo`	`robin_sz, cheers!`
`23:14.55`	`*** join/#asterisk enkrypted (i=enkrypte@71.4.147.219.ptr.us.xo.net)`
`23:14.55`	`*** join/#asterisk nettie (i=esivieri@85-18-54-38.ip.fastwebnet.it)`
`23:14.57`	`sevard`	`robin_sz: http://www.spellcheck.net/cgi-bin/spell.exe?action=CHECKWORD&string=practised`
`23:14.58`	`robin_sz`	`salut!`
`23:15.16`	`sevard`	`silly bastards.`
`23:16.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sevard : Can't trust that site... they use EXE's in their websites for crying out loud!`
`23:16.23`	`robin_sz`	`exactly`
`23:16.29`	`*** join/#asterisk SplasPood (n=jwb@brooklyn.paravolve.net)`
`23:16.33`	`sevard`	`heh`
`23:17.02`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, in zapata.conf, is my signalling line correct?`
`23:17.27`	`adenardo`	`signalling=fxs_ks`
`23:17.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : pastebin it again and "cat /proc/interrupts" while you're at it.`
`23:17.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : yeah, thats right`
`23:18.26`	`robin_sz`	`sevard, "I practised drinking a lot .. is was a sill practice to adopt" thats correct I think you'll find :)`
`23:19.12`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, http://pastebin.com/717774`
`23:19.23`	`robin_sz`	`anyway .. we digress. lots.`
`23:19.32`	`robin_sz`	`so .. these pesky one-sided calls ...`
`23:19.43`	`robin_sz`	`how should I go about debuggering them?`
`23:20.02`	`justinu\|laptop`	`sip debug`
`23:20.31`	`justinu\|laptop`	`you understand the protocol much?`
`23:21.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : Ok, look at that pastbin... do you see that channel declaration anywhere?`
`23:22.28`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, crap, I appended that to the old file!`
`23:22.46`	`websae`	`I can't wait for reliable faxing over IP`
`23:22.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : Fix your shit dammit!`
`23:23.09`	`adenardo`	`wait!`
`23:23.37`	`orlok`	`Hmm.. has anybody here tried to integrate windows dialler into aserisk?`
`23:26.34`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, http://pastebin.com/717783`
`23:27.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ok, fire up * and do "zap show channels"`
`23:27.16`	`adenardo`	`ouch!`
`23:28.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adenardo : "ouch!" what?`
`23:28.29`	`adenardo`	`http://pastebin.com/717784`
`23:29.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`make sure you did "modprobe zaptel" and "modprobe wcfxo" then "ztcfg -vvvv" first`
`23:30.10`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, 1 channel configured`
`23:30.10`	`robin_sz`	`justinu\|laptop, that sip debug? that was to me?`
`23:31.40`	`justinu\|laptop`	`yeah`
`23:34.21`	`robin_sz`	`mmm, I suppose I could set sip debug and try and catch a faulty call , right?`
`23:35.12`	`adenardo`	`[TK]D-Fender, I did the modprobes, the ztcfg and got the same result`
`23:35.50`	`justinu\|laptop`	`robin_sz: that would be ideal`
`23:36.05`	`justinu\|laptop`	`and perhaps rtp debug as well`
`23:36.10`	`justinu\|laptop`	`or capture with tcpdump`
`23:36.12`	`robin_sz`	`coo.`
`23:36.23`	`robin_sz`	`yikes, deep wizadry`
`23:36.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Hmmm`
`23:39.13`	`justinu\|laptop`	`get some captures, and i'll help you decipher the runes`
`23:40.01`	`orlok`	`TAPI Dialer, thats what i was after`
`23:44.18`	`robin_sz`	`justinu\|laptop, is there some way to get it to log that to file rather than the console?`
`23:45.51`	`justinu\|laptop`	`robin_sz: yeah, edit logger.conf, enable "full" logging, then enable "sip debug" at the CLI`
`23:45.57`	`justinu\|laptop`	`oh, and "logger reload"`
`23:46.22`	`justinu\|laptop`	`you can narrow sip debug down to a particilar peer, also`
`23:47.26`	`pjchilds`	`orlok: go to google .. type 'asterisk TAPI' ... press enter...`
`23:48.21`	`robin_sz`	`justinu\|laptop, is there some way to get it to log that to file rather than the console?`
`23:49.16`	`justinu\|laptop`	`uh`
`23:49.23`	`justinu\|laptop`	`did the record just skip?`
`23:51.00`	`justinu\|laptop`	`it'll be in /var/log/asterisk/full`
`23:51.22`	`orlok`	`pjchilds: read up :)`
`23:51.32`	`orlok`	`pjchilds: found it already :)`

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