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`00:05.46`	`nain`	`I am using g723 Codec and it's is working fine with bosoft softphone but when i tried to use any other softdialer it won't work, mean like robotic voice or silence..... Can any one identify the reason and solution ?`
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`00:12.04`	`nain`	`Any body there ?`
`00:13.18`	`Un1x`	`hmmm`
`00:13.35`	`Un1x`	`fuck i forget this site i found found that was offering voip services for, 15$ for 2 numbers`
`00:13.38`	`Un1x`	`either us or canada`
`00:14.04`	`nain`	`Any idea on g723 codec compatibility ?`
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`00:28.20`	`nixnex`	`help! i cant make inbound or outbound calls, my CLI says that zap 25/1 answered SIP`
`00:28.36`	`nixnex`	`then says it is not necessary to dial a 1 when calling this number... for any number i dial`
`00:29.44`	`nixnex`	`zap is answering my SIP calls, however 1800 numbers work just fine`
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`00:41.42`	`mafkees`	`nixnex: you tried to dial 11800 ?`
`00:43.48`	`nixnex`	`800 numbers work great`
`00:43.53`	`nixnex`	`its area code numbers that dont`
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`00:48.03`	`Koinasake`	`would this be a support channel that I could get some quick help on?`
`00:48.40`	`mafkees`	`Koinasake: depends on the question description`
`00:50.15`	`Koinasake`	`i was told asterisk would be the best/only way to have a Linksys/sipura SPA-9000 have a music on hold stream. To do MOH, i need to set up a server that the spa-9000 can connect to that plays ulaw g711 music.`
`00:50.57`	`Koinasake`	`i was wondering where the best documentation would be at so i would be able to do this?`
`00:51.37`	`Koinasake`	`ive heard that mpg123 can encode on the fly to this format, so I am just trying to figure out how to make it so the 9000 can connect to it`
`00:51.49`	`Koinasake`	`(it basically just needs to be a streaming server`
`00:51.52`	`Koinasake`	`)`
`00:52.34`	`Koinasake`	`the spa-9000 does all of the hold features itself, so a constaint stream would be perfect and the 9000 would use it as needed`
`00:52.34`	`mafkees`	`Koinasake: have a look at musiconhold.conf`
`00:53.32`	`Koinasake`	`everything i have looked at so far shows how it could be set up so asterisk needs to be inbetween the device and the service, which cannot be done for the 9000`
`00:54.30`	`Strom_C`	`Koinasake: does the 9000 have support for placing SIP calls to a MOH server?`
`00:54.45`	`Koinasake`	`nope, it does everything internally`
`00:55.02`	`Koinasake`	`it IS the pbx, with spa-941s connected to it with a switch`
`00:55.06`	`Strom_C`	`Koinasake: the problem is going to be configuring the 9000, not configuring asterisk`
`00:55.41`	`mafkees`	`the 9000 is the pbx ?`
`00:55.55`	`Koinasake`	`yes, the spa-9000 is a SIP based PBX`
`00:55.56`	`Un1x`	`hey does the tdm400p work in any motherboard?`
`00:56.27`	`mafkees`	`Un1x: basically: yes`
`00:56.28`	`Koinasake`	`it has a line in the config to place a MOH server stream URL`
`00:56.48`	`mafkees`	`as long as it is not sharing interrupts with any hardware in the box`
`00:57.31`	`mafkees`	`Koinasake: sorry, I dont have any experience witth a sip pbx other then asterisk`
`00:57.32`	`Koinasake`	`so basically, you just point it to the url:port of the MOH stream`
`00:57.55`	`mafkees`	`Koinasake: yeah, the snom phones have the same`
`00:58.13`	`mafkees`	`Koinasake: I always leave them blank and let asterisk take care of it`
`00:58.47`	`mafkees`	`ok`
`00:58.50`	`mafkees`	`I'm off`
`00:58.51`	`Koinasake`	`basically what im looking for is a shoutcast type server, but that encodes ulaw g711, which someone told me asterisk could do`
`00:58.53`	`mafkees`	`latero all`
`00:59.58`	`nain`	`Any body knows asterisk g723 compatible sip dialer that works fine ?`
`01:00.44`	`nain`	`I have tried eyebeam g723 version and portsip softdialer but i am getting robotic voice or only silence ...?`
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`01:01.15`	`Brijn`	`Good evening all`
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`01:19.18`	`tlowe_`	`I need an asterisk consultant from indonedia/malasia/singapore. doing remote work, msg me if you are interested.`
`01:21.20`	`russellb`	`why does location matter if it's remote work? heh`
`01:21.43`	`tlowe_`	`because in business, you establish your strategies.`
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`01:27.22`	`dlynes_home`	`tlowe_: try Tili or littleball; they're both in Singapore, but I think Tili's only there for a coule of months`
`01:27.58`	`tlowe_`	`cool thanks.`
`01:32.44`	`dlynes_home`	`you could always try coppice, too`
`01:32.47`	`dlynes_home`	`he's in Hong Kong`
`01:32.57`	`dlynes_home`	`he travels all over southeast asia`
`01:35.29`	`dlynes_home`	`but i'm guessing you want m'sia, singapore, or indonesia, because if someone screws up, it's easier to take legal action :)`
`01:35.55`	`JackEStorm`	`I think coppice would be the best bet, he's here alot :)`
`01:36.02`	`tlowe_`	`he doesnt have time.`
`01:36.21`	`dlynes_home`	`I kinda figured that`
`01:36.22`	`tlowe_`	`and he always have an attitude, we wont match heh.`
`01:36.22`	`JackEStorm`	`dlynes_home: yeah, but I bet it's more about time, as in timezone, making sure you can get intouch with someone.`
`01:36.23`	`dlynes_home`	`but wasn't sure`
`01:36.33`	`dlynes_home`	`JackEStorm: yeah...ture`
`01:36.35`	`dlynes_home`	`true`
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`01:37.13`	`dlynes_home`	`speak of the devil`
`01:37.15`	`dlynes_home`	`there's Tili`
`01:37.29`	`Tili`	`hi dlynes_home`
`01:37.34`	`dlynes_home`	`your ears must be ringing`
`01:37.34`	`Tili`	`u were talking about me?`
`01:37.36`	`TESTER2`	`anyone have a nat to nat (client behind a nat and server behing another nat) working config?`
`01:37.38`	`dlynes_home`	`I was just talking about you`
`01:37.54`	`Tili`	`wat about me?`
`01:38.17`	`dlynes_home`	`tlowe_ was looking for an asterisk consultant from singapore`
`01:38.42`	`dlynes_home`	`didn't know if you were a consultant or not, or if you just did it as a hobby`
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`01:45.18`	`Brijn`	`Question: is there a way to say: if dialed string is > 4 chars, add 9 in front of the dial string?`
`01:47.37`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: Use the 'If' function, and the 'Len' function`
`01:48.30`	`dlynes_home`	`TESTER2: almost nobody`
`01:48.44`	`dlynes_home`	`TESTER2: iax2 to iax2 works well for nat to nat, but not sip`
`01:50.03`	`P-NuT`	`Any aussies here using an x100p?`
`01:50.25`	`TESTER2`	`Is there any windows iax2 client?`
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`01:51.19`	`dlynes_home`	`TESTER2: iax2client`
`01:51.48`	`dlynes_home`	`TESTER2: check the wiki under softphones`
`01:52.10`	`Un1x`	`WOW`
`01:52.21`	`Un1x`	`anyone know where i can buy a gsm gateway`
`01:52.28`	`JackEStorm`	`and there is this wonderful thing called "google" and if you ask it "windows iax2 client" it shows you what it knows.`
`01:52.45`	`Idle`	`what dependencies do I need for asterisk to play .gsm files?`
`01:52.53`	`Brijn`	`dlynes_home: How do you catch it in your dialplan? I now need to dial a 9 for outside line, so catch _9. So something like _XXX. ??`
`01:53.40`	`Un1x`	`Dlynes_home: know where i can buy a gsm gateway?`
`01:54.13`	`Brijn`	`Un1x: there is some links on voip-info.org`
`01:54.17`	`Un1x`	`i cant see them`
`01:54.20`	`Un1x`	`:(`
`01:54.35`	`Un1x`	`or well i dont see them`
`01:54.56`	`Brijn`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/GSM`
`01:55.40`	`Brijn`	`VouceBlue makes one: http://www.2n.cz/products/gsm_gateways/voip_gsm_gateway/voiceblue_voip_gsm_gateway.html`
`01:55.47`	`Brijn`	`Config examples on Voip-Info`
`01:56.12`	`Un1x`	`yes but i cant find`
`01:56.13`	`Un1x`	`a store`
`01:56.18`	`Un1x`	`or 2ns store`
`01:56.23`	`Un1x`	`to buy a Gsm gateway`
`01:56.31`	`JackEStorm`	`Brijn: yeah but thats dualband, not quad band`
`01:56.45`	`dlynes_home`	`something like exten => s,8,GotoIf( $[Len(${EXTEN}) > 4]?10) ; exten => s,9,Goto(outbound,${EXTEN},1) ; exten => s,10,Goto(outbound,9${EXTEN},1) ;`
`01:57.32`	`Brijn`	`Un1x: Mail them for a distro?`
`01:57.41`	`b4ka`	`i couldnt understand what it does`
`01:57.45`	`b4ka`	`that gsm gateway`
`01:58.07`	`Un1x`	`Brijn: distro?`
`01:58.22`	`JackEStorm`	`b4ka: think of it was a channel bank, with cell insted of hardwire`
`01:58.26`	`Brijn`	`Distributer`
`01:58.49`	`Brijn`	`I just searched on VoipSupply.com and found "SIP CPE FX300 GSM Call Director Integrate your Cell (GSM) phone(s) with your VOIP service"`
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`01:59.18`	`Brijn`	`Seems to be only one SIM card, but tri-band and not to expensive (300US$)`
`01:59.52`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: why not just call it on the pstn, or over voip?`
`02:01.06`	`Brijn`	`dlynes_home: How do you mean? About the GSM quesions?? That wasn't my question :-)`
`02:01.36`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: i know...just commenting on the price tag`
`02:01.46`	`JackEStorm`	`dlynes_home: for GSM, it makes sense for failover, and roaming office`
`02:01.57`	`Brijn`	`dlynes_home: What is the effect of s,9 versus s,10.. I see the 9${exen} in 10, what is purpose of 9`
`02:02.34`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: s,9 dials the number normally`
`02:02.35`	`Brijn`	`GSM: in the netherlands movile calls are relatively expensive.. So it's worth to have a GSM gw`
`02:02.42`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: s,10 dials it with a 9 in the front`
`02:02.58`	`JackEStorm`	`Brijn: read that as if(){ }else{ }`
`02:03.16`	`Brijn`	`dlynes: GotoIf the ?10 means, jump to 10 in the same extention`
`02:03.23`	`dlynes_home`	`JackEStorm: if(!..){}else{}`
`02:03.40`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: means jump to 10 if it's true, otherwise jump to the next statement`
`02:04.04`	`JackEStorm`	`dlynes_home: err, yeah`
`02:06.17`	`Brijn`	`The s, ext will trigger if no other defined ext is matched?`
`02:07.06`	`Brijn`	`I want to use this to get rid of the requirement to dial an outside 9.. I now add a 9 to incoming callerid (num)'s so that I can use redial on the phone.. But the causes the lookup in Outlook to fail\`
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`02:08.02`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: it was just an example, but yes`
`02:08.10`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: you can use whatever extension you want in thtere`
`02:10.18`	`Brijn`	`dlynes: clear, but would s be a good choice.. I can only have a few extentions: 300 (hardphone), 301 (softphone), 7XX (dialout via IAX trank to a colleague).. Currently 9. is Voip carrier.. I want everything other the 300,301,7XX to go out via VoiP carrier... What would be better _XXX. or s,`
`02:11.24`	`Brijn`	`I can only == I only`
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`02:14.27`	`dlynes_home`	`s is a predefined extension though, and should only be used for its intended purpose`
`02:15.28`	`Brijn`	`dlynes: Better use the _XXX. (would that corerctly matches anything longer then 3 digits (not incl. 3)?)`
`02:16.48`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: _XXXX.`
`02:16.51`	`dlynes_home`	`oh`
`02:16.53`	`dlynes_home`	`nvm`
`02:16.56`	`dlynes_home`	`_XXX. yeah`
`02:17.08`	`Un1x`	`frig man`
`02:17.12`	`Un1x`	`i want a gsm gateway`
`02:17.22`	`Un1x`	`this romanian site is selling for 1400 euro`
`02:17.25`	`Un1x`	`too expensive`
`02:17.26`	`Un1x`	`maybe`
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`02:17.31`	`Un1x`	`upto 1000 cad dollars is ok`
`02:17.37`	`Brijn`	`I'll give that a try..`
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`02:17.45`	`dlynes_home`	`Un1x: for how many ports?`
`02:17.46`	`Brijn`	`Un1x: Voipsupply has a CAN site now`
`02:17.58`	`dlynes_home`	`they do?`
`02:18.05`	`Un1x`	`dylnes what dou mean how much sim slots?`
`02:18.14`	`dlynes_home`	`Un1x: yeah...how many sim slots`
`02:18.18`	`Idle`	`huh.... when I call an extension that does a playback or background, I get the first 1/10th of a second, then nothing`
`02:18.27`	`Brijn`	`Yes sir: http://www.canadianvoipstore.ca/home.php`
`02:18.31`	`JackEStorm`	`Un1x: dude, Froogle "GSM Gateway"`
`02:18.39`	`benjamin7062`	`I've done an amazing job of breaking a working configuration. Perhaps someone can point me in the right direction. I have a polycom 601 which was working fine and 'something' I changed in the XML files has stopped it from passing DTMF or Dialing Signals to asterisk`
`02:18.54`	`Un1x`	`jackEstrom i need a 2 port`
`02:18.59`	`benjamin7062`	`ie, when I try an agent login -- It doesn't 'hear' or 'grab' my key presses... any ideas?`
`02:19.14`	`Un1x`	`dlynes: 2 port`
`02:19.23`	`Brijn`	`Un1x: Different networks?`
`02:19.48`	`Un1x`	`?`
`02:20.01`	`Un1x`	`are you pointing to my decision on 2 porT?`
`02:20.09`	`benjamin7062`	`dlynes_home, =) Congrats on breaking it... yes, I rock... congrats on getting it up and running... well, I'm no expert yet. ;-)`
`02:20.12`	`Un1x`	`if so yes rogers + one us`
`02:20.17`	`Brijn`	`Yes, the "cheap" box oly supports one card`
`02:20.18`	`dlynes_home`	`benjamin7062: heh`
`02:20.19`	`benjamin7062`	`but this thing is kicking... and working through our PRI's`
`02:20.35`	`Brijn`	`But if the called nr start differently you could route over 2 boxes based on the network`
`02:20.40`	`Un1x`	`dlynes_home: i need a 1 port or 2 port`
`02:20.51`	`Brijn`	`I don't know if you can "load balance" between the two in a dialplan`
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`02:22.15`	`Brijn`	`Another question: Today I used meetme for the first time in a real situaion`
`02:22.58`	`Brijn`	`My wife on her mobile, friends from IAX2 trunk, and me from SIP phone.. Worked super.. But I first dialed everbody and then transferred them to the Meetme ext..`
`02:23.10`	`benjamin7062`	`Anyway, all my other phones work fine. But I completely screwed up this polycom 601. Anyone familiar with the Polycoms and/or a setting I should be looking for. Do the * systems listen for DTMF and is that the right path or do keypresses get passed via SIP messages?`
`02:23.29`	`Brijn`	`What would be cool. Setup a meetme per extention (ie 3000 for ext 300) and have key that I can press to transfer the other side of the conversation to the meetme`
`02:24.10`	`Brijn`	`So during the conversation I hit *66 (for example) and the other side of the conversation is sent to ext 3000.. Something like that posssible?`
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`02:25.00`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: Dial(tech/extn,t) I think it was`
`02:25.09`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: either that or ,T`
`02:25.34`	`benjamin7062`	`T allows transfers from both sides... t from the receiving end of the context, right?`
`02:25.53`	`benjamin7062`	`or maybe I'm thinking of something else`
`02:26.32`	`Brijn`	`How can you make asterisk listen for keys DURING a call, or does it do that automaticly?`
`02:26.41`	`benjamin7062`	`heh`
`02:26.50`	`benjamin7062`	`That is directly relative to my question. =)`
`02:27.29`	`JackEStorm`	`Umm from the cli "show application Dial" and read`
`02:27.51`	`dlynes_home`	`benjamin7062: yeah...that's just it...I can't remember which is which...i'm not in front of an asterisk cli`
`02:28.04`	`benjamin7062`	`I'd start by looking how '#ext' is configured for transfers... that works in a call...`
`02:28.11`	`benjamin7062`	`but might be a builtin thing`
`02:28.28`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: also make sure ummmmmm`
`02:28.36`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: what the hell is that setting again`
`02:28.59`	`dlynes_home`	`it's usually used in conjunction with nat=1`
`02:29.01`	`JackEStorm`	`dlynes_home: "t - Allow the called party to transfer" "T - Allow the calling party to transfer"`
`02:29.14`	`dlynes_home`	`JackEStorm: so there we go, Tt`
`02:29.17`	`Brijn`	`Hmm, reading the desvription, I should go and read features.conf`
`02:29.34`	`benjamin7062`	`dlynes_home, heh -- I've just memorized every wiki I can swallow. Although, Jack just gave me new tool... Didn't know you could look for help`
`02:29.40`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: oh yeah...canreinvite must be set to yes, too`
`02:29.40`	`Brijn`	`In my case just t`
`02:30.34`	`Brijn`	`dlynes: canreinvite is a property of the phone (sip.conf) isn't it`
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`02:31.14`	`JackEStorm`	`benjamin7062: the best tool in asterisk cli is "show ?" ... and go from there`
`02:31.35`	`benjamin7062`	`So I've just descovered... That beats the wiki.. =)`
`02:32.15`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: sip.conf`
`02:32.24`	`dlynes_home`	`JackEStorm: forget that`
`02:32.33`	`dlynes_home`	`JackEStorm: show<space><tab>`
`02:32.43`	`benjamin7062`	`tab complete`
`02:32.47`	`dlynes_home`	`JackEStorm: asterisk cli does tab completion`
`02:33.20`	`benjamin7062`	`I suppose they both accomplish the same thing`
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`02:33.38`	`dlynes_home`	`yeah..but tab completion is the bomb`
`02:33.59`	`JackEStorm`	`dlynes_home: thats shell syntax, "show ?" is Cisco basic prompt syntax ...to see your options, but not tab complete.`
`02:34.11`	`dlynes_home`	`especially for lazy people like programmers and sysadmins`
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`02:34.16`	`*** part/#asterisk callsign (n=callisgn@c-67-167-227-212.hsd1.il.comcast.net)`
`02:34.58`	`benjamin7062`	`<-- lazy`
`02:35.06`	`JackEStorm`	`and ? does the same as tab complete too`
`02:35.24`	`benjamin7062`	`Cisco has some cool advantages though... ie... you can be MORE lazy.. and just abbreviate... cont t .. wr mem int fe0/0`
`02:35.26`	`benjamin7062`	`etc`
`02:35.32`	`dlynes_home`	`JackEStorm: so you can type pri int<tab>?`
`02:35.41`	`benjamin7062`	`cont t = conf t`
`02:35.41`	`dlynes_home`	`JackEStorm: erm pri int?`
`02:35.50`	`dlynes_home`	`JackEStorm: and it'll complete intense?`
`02:36.07`	`JackEStorm`	`dlynes_home: p? i? and it does`
`02:36.17`	`dlynes_home`	`JackEStorm: with the '?', you have to press enter for it to do something, don't you?`
`02:36.23`	`JackEStorm`	`no`
`02:36.32`	`benjamin7062`	`yeah, cisco captures ?`
`02:36.43`	`benjamin7062`	`and leaves your partial command intact`
`02:36.47`	`dlynes_home`	`ah`
`02:36.53`	`benjamin7062`	`it's pure lazyness bliss`
`02:36.53`	`dlynes_home`	`never used cisco`
`02:37.03`	`benjamin7062`	`although, you have to go through 45 steps to configure ciscos`
`02:37.09`	`benjamin7062`	`so... Kinda a double edge sword`
`02:37.53`	`benjamin7062`	`but, it's logical.. unlike most 'telephone' consoles`
`02:38.00`	`JackEStorm`	`? is better because not all terms as have a proper <tab>`
`02:38.08`	`benjamin7062`	`Gentlemen... the meaning of hell = Nortel console`
`02:38.18`	`dlynes_home`	`benjamin7062: ?`
`02:38.54`	`benjamin7062`	`Nortel phone switches... OMG... worst CLI in the world`
`02:39.02`	`dlynes_home`	`benjamin7062: you must be referring to their telephone consoles, not their consoles in their switches`
`02:39.03`	`benjamin7062`	`Been a few years... they might have a GUI now`
`02:39.08`	`benjamin7062`	`right`
`02:39.20`	`benjamin7062`	`Nortel Meridian`
`02:39.22`	`benjamin7062`	`etc`
`02:39.25`	`benjamin7062`	`Norstar`
`02:39.29`	`benjamin7062`	`northstar`
`02:39.30`	`benjamin7062`	`crap`
`02:39.32`	`dlynes_home`	`they've had a gui for i don't know how long now`
`02:39.32`	`benjamin7062`	`can't remember`
`02:39.44`	`dlynes_home`	`It's all configured via a web page`
`02:39.54`	`benjamin7062`	`Nortel Meridian 11?`
`02:39.57`	`benjamin7062`	`'really'?`
`02:40.06`	`dlynes_home`	`that thing's a piece of shit`
`02:40.06`	`benjamin7062`	`GOod for them`
`02:40.10`	`dlynes_home`	`I mean the cics and mics`
`02:40.11`	`benjamin7062`	`yes`
`02:40.13`	`dlynes_home`	`and call pilot`
`02:40.29`	`benjamin7062`	`Yeah, they had 'just' webified Call Pilot when I had to do that`
`02:41.03`	`benjamin7062`	`LD 20 PRT DNB 2000`
`02:41.07`	`benjamin7062`	`CPY 1`
`02:41.11`	`benjamin7062`	`bleh`
`02:41.15`	`benjamin7062`	`I hate that I know that`
`02:41.34`	`dlynes_home`	`hahahaha`
`02:41.37`	`benjamin7062`	`<-- finally pulls trigger... (... crickets...)`
`02:41.54`	`dlynes_home`	`It looks like it's about as easy as z80 assembly code`
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`02:43.13`	`benjamin7062`	`Yes, but ... There is LOGIC to assembly.. mostly... Nortel's were designed by a bunch of Grandma's who specialized in knitting\`
`02:43.17`	`Un1x`	`dlynes_home: hey man can i use this card for, the digital phones?, ... http://www.netvoice.ca/digium/te110p.htm`
`02:44.05`	`tzafrir`	`Un1x, that is a T1/E1 card. You use it to connect to a T1/E1 connection`
`02:44.18`	`dlynes_home`	`Un1x: no`
`02:44.28`	`dlynes_home`	`Un1x: I've told you like twenty times now`
`02:44.32`	`Un1x`	`but it says it's a digital interface card tho..`
`02:44.34`	`benjamin7062`	`PS: Don't format Polycom 601's. I spent 45 min at 3:00am convincing their techs that they 'owe' me a copy of sip.ld since it didn't come with my phone and old versions available aren't compatible.`
`02:44.39`	`dlynes_home`	`Un1x: you connect your voip phones to a network switch`
`02:44.48`	`Un1x`	`ok`
`02:44.52`	`dlynes_home`	`Un1x: they're not called digital phones, they're voip phones`
`02:45.00`	`tzafrir`	`This would allow you to connect up to 23 (in the US) or 30 (in europe) lines to an ISP. But not something you can connect directly to phones`
`02:45.03`	`dlynes_home`	`Un1x: digital phones will not work with asterisk`
`02:45.15`	`dlynes_home`	`Un1x: unless you buy a $3000 citel box or something similar`
`02:45.18`	`brut-`	`Un1x, what kinda phones are you trying to connect?`
`02:45.26`	`dlynes_home`	`brut-: sip phones`
`02:45.38`	`brut-`	`dlynes_home, ah, they aren't digital? :)`
`02:45.42`	`JackEStorm`	`dlynes_home: or Lucent ISDN phones`
`02:45.59`	`JackEStorm`	`and have the 5E to go with it :)`
`02:46.04`	`brut-`	`that "?" should be a "!"`
`02:46.05`	`brut-`	`lol`
`02:46.05`	`dlynes_home`	`brut-: digital phones are like the panasonic, nortel, nec, toshiba, 3com, ... phones you see in a typical office`
`02:46.16`	`brut-`	`dlynes_home, aye, wrong exclamation key:)`
`02:46.46`	`brut-`	`dlynes_home,I work on nortel meridian systems and mitel sx systems at the phone company I work for. Wish I could convince them to try asterisk, but they're too stubborn`
`02:46.54`	`brut-`	`I'll do it myself then :)`
`02:48.30`	`benjamin7062`	`I've slept at my office for 2 days now trying to get this box in a demo state for Monday before we invest more in Avaya`
`02:48.33`	`benjamin7062`	`I feel your pain`
`02:48.51`	`benjamin7062`	`But, for once, I'm going to win this battle`
`02:48.57`	`brut-`	`\o/ :)`
`02:49.04`	`Brijn`	`Friendly experts: To test your suggestions I'm doing a bit of cleanup and (as usual) don't get it work.. If somebod could have a look at http://pastebin.ca/71005`
`02:49.10`	`benjamin7062`	`Err, that is... if this polycom will stop being stupid`
`02:49.16`	`Brijn`	`It shows what worked, and what I tried to get working`
`02:49.36`	`brut-`	`Here's a dumb question: is the external interface on the TDM2400P an amphenol jack?`
`02:50.01`	`dlynes_home`	`brut-: amphenol tail, yes`
`02:50.08`	`benjamin7062`	`http://keison.co.uk/digium/digium_wildcard_tdm_2400p.htm`
`02:50.45`	`brut-`	`dlynes_home, sweetness. Thanks. :)`
`02:50.55`	`file`	`but I won't cry for yesterday, there's an ordinary world... somehow I have to find`
`02:51.05`	`file`	`and as I try to make my way to the ordinary world`
`02:51.10`	`file`	`I will learn to survive!`
`02:51.53`	`Brijn`	`Is an "amphenol tail" the format a telco hands you your PRI??`
`02:52.02`	`benjamin7062`	`file, I think you need a prozak sandwhich and a nap`
`02:52.10`	`benjamin7062`	`No`
`02:52.12`	`brut-`	`benjamin7062, thanks for the link m8.`
`02:52.13`	`benjamin7062`	`Brijn, No`
`02:52.15`	`file`	`benjamin7062: pfft`
`02:52.24`	`file`	`benjamin7062: you should hear me on conf calls when I start singing`
`02:52.26`	`benjamin7062`	`Brijn, PRI comes via smartjack`
`02:52.54`	`Un1x`	`hey on the tdm2400P thst big pin at the back of the card what does it connect to?`
`02:52.57`	`benjamin7062`	`Brijn, Via a Cat 5 T1 Cross or Ethernet Straight through cable.. it's digital`
`02:53.05`	`lilo`	`Astinus mistyped, got me by mistake`
`02:53.11`	`benjamin7062`	`Un1x, a 66 Block`
`02:53.17`	`file`	`Un1x: amphenol cable... to a breakout block...`
`02:53.20`	`benjamin7062`	`And you punch analog into the 66 block from telco`
`02:53.26`	`Un1x`	`i see`
`02:53.46`	`benjamin7062`	`file, do you work for digium?`
`02:53.52`	`file`	`benjamin7062: yes`
`02:54.09`	`benjamin7062`	`file, suweet`
`02:54.47`	`benjamin7062`	`file, Hope you aren't in IT... After working with Ian (sharp cookie) I can't imagine what your IT department has to deal with`
`02:54.58`	`file`	`Ian's cool`
`02:55.02`	`JackEStorm`	`benjamin7062: not for him.`
`02:55.08`	`file`	`but nah, I'm not in IT`
`02:55.14`	`file`	`just one of those who file tickets to them`
`02:55.29`	`benjamin7062`	`Ahh... Service?`
`02:55.33`	`benjamin7062`	`Gotcha`
`02:55.49`	`file`	`I'm in software engineering...`
`02:55.57`	`benjamin7062`	`ahhh`
`02:56.00`	`file`	`we engineer many software lifeforms!`
`02:56.01`	`benjamin7062`	`one of THOSE guys`
`02:56.23`	`JackEStorm`	`file: you need to transfer out to the basement to a place you need visas`
`02:56.38`	`file`	`JackEStorm: rephrase that so it makes sense`
`02:56.41`	`file`	`jbot: file?`
`02:56.47`	`jbot`	`i guess file is Joshua Colp, jcolp@digium.com, and is the best looking software developer at Digium`
`02:56.48`	`benjamin7062`	`lol`
`02:56.48`	`Brijn`	`Could somebody have a quick look at http://pastebin.ca/71005, must be a very basic misunderstanding from my side`
`02:57.04`	`file`	`the bot said it, so it MUST be true`
`02:57.13`	`brut-`	`I see the tdm2400p takes 12v in for the FXS mods, is that per module?`
`02:57.15`	`JackEStorm`	`s/to/of/ \| s/place/place where/`
`02:57.43`	`file`	`Brijn: 's' is only used when you explicitly Goto it, or when the number dialed is not known - in your case the number IS known, so an extension does not exist for it... and thus will not be matched`
`02:57.59`	`brut-`	`oh wait, dumb question. I see the power jack on the card, so naturally that would be the case`
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`02:58.53`	`benjamin7062`	`Brijn, or s is used to signify a substitution in regex`
`02:59.00`	`benjamin7062`	`Brijn, err wait.. that wasn't relavent`
`02:59.03`	`benjamin7062`	`=)(`
`02:59.04`	`file`	`or in a macro`
`02:59.12`	`Un1x`	`Hmmm...`
`02:59.38`	`Un1x`	`ok dumb question, but... here it goes.. a person that provides voip services, is known as the person providing the termination right?`
`02:59.57`	`file`	`depends on the direction...`
`03:00.06`	`file`	`termination means they allow you to call a number on the PSTN, they terminate it`
`03:00.14`	`file`	`origination means they provide you with a telephone number and direct it to you`
`03:00.20`	`JackEStorm`	`Un1x: yes, or no, could be origination`
`03:00.26`	`benjamin7062`	`so, umm, file -- you'd know this then... When you have 'prompts' that listen for key entry... are they listening for DTMF 'tones' or do they get a message via SIP that tells them about keypresses?`
`03:00.36`	`Un1x`	`i see, but what is the person called that provides you with the service that, lets a user make calls to a land lines from there box...`
`03:00.40`	`benjamin7062`	`I'm trying to find out if this damn phone isn't passing the 'tone' or a 'signal'`
`03:00.53`	`file`	`benjamin7062: depends on configuration, SIP has about 5 different methods of sending DTMF`
`03:01.03`	`benjamin7062`	`file, oh... damn`
`03:01.08`	`benjamin7062`	`file, had to be complicated`
`03:01.41`	`file`	`benjamin7062: info is sent as a SIP message, RFC2833 is sent in the RTP/audio stream, inband is as pure audio... another is NOTIFY, and another is XML encoded`
`03:01.51`	`file`	`Asterisk supports info, rfc2833, and inband`
`03:02.00`	`benjamin7062`	`awesome`
`03:02.01`	`anonymouz666`	`file: but all * apps works with SIP INFO?`
`03:02.02`	`benjamin7062`	`that actually helps`
`03:02.12`	`benjamin7062`	`So, somewhere, I've told my phone to be stupid`
`03:02.13`	`file`	`anonymouz666: in the core Asterisk doesn't care how it got DTMF`
`03:02.26`	`file`	`it's all abstracted into a DTMF frame, doesn't matter how it got there`
`03:02.30`	`benjamin7062`	`since i 'hear' the dtmf... it's probably not set for audio... K, I will find this`
`03:02.47`	`file`	`benjamin7062: dtmfmode=inband in sip.conf will fire up a DSP on the Asterisk channel and listen for DTMF tones`
`03:02.57`	`file`	`benjamin7062: needs an uncompressed codec though, like ulaw`
`03:03.25`	`benjamin7062`	`ooohhhhhh... hmm.. maybe when I formated this phone back to defaults it's changing codecs... I will look for that too... 'thank' you!`
`03:03.54`	`file`	`you can check if it's doing rfc2833 by doing rtp debug and looking for packets with payload 101`
`03:04.00`	`file`	`inband... well, listen ;)`
`03:04.11`	`Brijn`	`The Goto now jumps to the s. extention in context lspeed-out.. Works OK, but ${EXTEN} seems to be empty after the jump to another context??`
`03:04.29`	`Brijn`	`-- Executing Dial("SIP/300-9017", "SIP/@lightspeed-out\|30\|rwW") in new stack`
`03:04.33`	`file`	`Brijn: ${EXTEN} is the current extension, which would be s`
`03:04.47`	`file`	`Brijn: you need to read up on dialplan logic :)`
`03:04.50`	`benjamin7062`	`yeah.. I 'hear' the dtmf but it's obviously not 'sending'... so , well, it's probably either the codec (probably) or the pass... I actually changed the sip.conf to inband per reading but it didn't work. I bet it's the codec`
`03:05.04`	`file`	`benjamin7062: use rfc2833`
`03:05.18`	`file`	`Brijn: lemme just fix this and then you can learn from it`
`03:05.18`	`Brijn`	`Hmpffff, how do I pass the extention that I had in the initial context`
`03:05.51`	`JackEStorm`	`file: rfc2833 with SIP->asterisk->SIP has some issues too`
`03:05.55`	`benjamin7062`	`yeah, it was set to that and broke some how... so either my sip.conf isn't correctly telling the phone to use it... or the phone is overiding it.. or it's PEBKAC`
`03:05.59`	`file`	`JackEStorm: that depends`
`03:06.19`	`Brijn`	`file: Perfect! I do have a printed copy of the ASterisk book.. But always manage to come up with something i can't find there :)`
`03:07.00`	`file`	`http://pastebin.ca/71012`
`03:07.19`	`JackEStorm`	`file: yeah, here it depends on if the moon can be seen in my window if it works or not.`
`03:07.41`	`benjamin7062`	`heheh`
`03:07.44`	`file`	`JackEStorm: transmitting DTMF is the issue, because the implementation right now sends all the RFC2833 packets out at the same time basically`
`03:07.57`	`file`	`and some RFC2833 implementations (Ciscos for example) take the literal received time of the packet`
`03:08.05`	`file`	`so the actual generated DTMF is short`
`03:08.24`	`file`	`when they should take the duration specified in the RFC2833 packets`
`03:08.40`	`JackEStorm`	`file: nod, but belive it or not, some times my cisco works fine with my polycom`
`03:08.53`	`benjamin7062`	`Dev perspective... Cisco 7960 > Polycom \|\| Polycom > Cisco 7960?`
`03:08.54`	`file`	`"it depends" :) we're working on fixing it though`
`03:10.15`	`benjamin7062`	`This cisco is a pain in my ass... Pay to upgrade to SIP... SIP images = minimal xml support... and no local sip conf... 'forced' to tftp. Technically, that's okay but I wish it was more flexible`
`03:10.36`	`file`	`I have a Polycom IP600 myself, works fine`
`03:10.54`	`Nivex`	`Do all Polycoms take ferflippin ever do boot?`
`03:10.58`	`file`	`sort of got pissed off at my Cisco when it forgot it's settings`
`03:11.13`	`file`	`Nivex: yes so never unplug it, never change it, and put it on a UPS`
`03:11.13`	`benjamin7062`	`Yeah, I LOVE it... especially since the web interface takes xhtml... you can do a 'LOT' with manager + xhtml browser`
`03:11.17`	`JackEStorm`	`cisco ATA 186 to/from Poly 301 sometimes does`
`03:11.39`	`benjamin7062`	`Nivex, yes, down side .. but it's a good phone (so far)`
`03:11.56`	`benjamin7062`	`LOL @ UPS`
`03:12.28`	`Nivex`	`helped deploy a business PBX with three IP501's. Talking to one of the guys on it right now, but the initial setup was a bitch waiting for all those reboots`
`03:12.59`	`benjamin7062`	`Yeah, I'm farting with the 601... same issue. Phone was great until I broke DTMF`
`03:13.08`	`benjamin7062`	`<-- idiot, not polycom`
`03:13.13`	`JackEStorm`	`file: once I work out my chan_agent issues I'm going to bring my uBR924 online and see how it does`
`03:13.38`	`benjamin7062`	`It said, "... Are you SURE you wanna format..".. I hit yes like it was asking me if I wanted a million bucks`
`03:14.13`	`benjamin7062`	`uBR924 = cable hub/router right?`
`03:14.22`	`benjamin7062`	`hmm`
`03:14.23`	`file`	`benjamin7062: you just HAD to... since sure was in capitals`
`03:14.31`	`benjamin7062`	`exactly!`
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`03:15.02`	`benjamin7062`	`=)`
`03:15.10`	`file`	`it was just taunting you`
`03:15.28`	`benjamin7062`	`It might as well reached out and slapped me I hit that button so fast...`
`03:16.13`	`benjamin7062`	`Ewww, hey file... do you guys have access to sip.ld files from polycom?`
`03:16.13`	`Un1x`	`shit`
`03:16.13`	`benjamin7062`	`I send you a box of cookies for 1.6.6`
`03:16.13`	`benjamin7062`	`I'll*`
`03:16.14`	`Un1x`	`UPS tracking is not working for me for some odd reason :(`
`03:16.24`	`file`	`erm no, might try [TK]D-Fender if you see him on`
`03:16.35`	`benjamin7062`	`darn`
`03:17.01`	`benjamin7062`	`1.6.6 supports 48 buddie watching keys`
`03:17.11`	`benjamin7062`	`ie, makes the expansions somewhat usable`
`03:18.16`	`dlynes_home`	`file: do you know if the metermaid2 stuff supports monitoring of sip upstreams?`
`03:18.35`	`file`	`you'd have to ask oej`
`03:18.39`	`dlynes_home`	`ah`
`03:18.39`	`dlynes_home`	`ok`
`03:19.12`	`JackEStorm`	`benjamin7062: yeah, with VoiP support, and a nice jack to plug a phone into.`
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`03:21.06`	`Un1x`	`someone`
`03:21.08`	`Brijn`	`Sweet, all working now (with the If and Goto statement) Another question, if I dial 8500 and have 8500 and _XXX. in the dialplan.. How decided asterisk what to match (more exact match, or first in config file)`
`03:21.12`	`Un1x`	`have a ups shipmnt coming`
`03:21.17`	`JackEStorm`	`well it's 10:21pm here, and time to find a new DID provider...`
`03:21.21`	`Un1x`	`that can possible check if tracking is working for them`
`03:21.25`	`file`	`Brijn: the closer the match`
`03:21.29`	`file`	`so 8500 would be matched`
`03:21.30`	`high-rez`	`Hello, do any of you know of a voip provider that does flat rate unlimited to romania?`
`03:21.49`	`benjamin7062`	`JackEStorm, the expansions are kinda pointless since they are only Speed dials until vs 1.6.6. For a receptionist anyway`
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`03:24.04`	`benjamin7062`	`<-- Going to be an ass and paste`
`03:24.13`	`benjamin7062`	`<DTMF tone.dtmf.level="-15" tone.dtmf.onTime="50" tone.dtmf.offTime="50" tone.dtmf.chassis.masking="0" tone.dtmf.stim.pac.offHookOnly="0" tone.dtmf.viaRtp="1" tone.dtmf.rfc2833Control="1" tone.dtmf.rfc2833Payload="101"/>`
`03:24.37`	`benjamin7062`	`I 'think' that line might be my DTMF problem on the polycom? Does anything look retarded about that line?`
`03:24.43`	`Brijn`	`file: I was expecting that, but for whatever reason it jumpts to the the XXX. ext :( I do see this error "Jun 24 20:20:12 WARNING[18555]: ast_expr2.fl:183 ast_yyerror: ast_yyerror(): syntax error: syntax error, unexpected TOK_LP, expecting $end; Input:`
`03:24.43`	`Brijn`	`Len(8500) > 4`
`03:24.49`	`Idle`	`ok, asterisk from the packages is busted for 2.4 with debian`
`03:24.53`	`Idle`	`works GREAT on 2.6`
`03:25.43`	`benjamin7062`	`What breaks in the 2.4 kernel?`
`03:25.53`	`benjamin7062`	`pri or zap drivers?`
`03:26.00`	`Idle`	`a lot`
`03:26.04`	`Idle`	`quite a lot, literally`
`03:26.18`	`Idle`	`zaptel is completely busted`
`03:26.30`	`Idle`	`no sounds play at all when you call asterisk via sip or iax`
`03:26.47`	`Idle`	`sip is unable to call iax lines`
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`03:28.25`	`benjamin7062`	`I just did a clean compile on 2.4 debian two days ago. Had a few issues but mainly just 'warnings'... running okay thus far; guess the package is outdated.`
`03:28.32`	`tzafrir`	`Idle, what's the problem?`
`03:28.56`	`Idle`	`benjamin7062: yea, it must be`
`03:29.03`	`Idle`	`tzafrir: there were a lot of issues`
`03:29.07`	`Idle`	`it built cleanly`
`03:29.12`	`tzafrir`	`did you use the sarge package?`
`03:29.13`	`Idle`	`zap built cleanly`
`03:29.15`	`Idle`	`nope`
`03:29.29`	`Idle`	`built it from the 1.2.9.1 tarball`
`03:29.50`	`Idle`	`used the same source after updating to 2.6.8, and grabbed the 2.6.8 headers, and it worked`
`03:29.53`	`Idle`	`nothing else changed`
`03:30.03`	`tzafrir`	`one issue is that sarge's zaptel has udev rules but lacks the udev permissions line`
`03:30.12`	`benjamin7062`	`Ooohh -- I thought you meant deb packages`
`03:30.19`	`benjamin7062`	`those were broken`
`03:30.25`	`Idle`	`tzafrir: no, that wasn't it`
`03:30.43`	`Idle`	`I could call my zaptel lines with iax, but not from the cli or sip lines`
`03:30.51`	`Idle`	`no dialtone on the zaptel lines either`
`03:31.01`	`Idle`	`(not pri, just TDM400p)`
`03:31.23`	`JackEStorm`	`Idle: so you built zap, libpri and asterisk from the currect release sources?`
`03:31.36`	`JackEStorm`	`damned mouse`
`03:31.37`	`Idle`	`no, not libpri`
`03:31.48`	`Idle`	`but yes, on every other count`
`03:32.16`	`Idle`	`spent a few hours before I decided to just give up and try it with 2.6 since I had it working on 2.6 before`
`03:32.21`	`Idle`	`viola, it worked`
`03:32.56`	`JackEStorm`	`kernel via debian? or source?`
`03:33.03`	`Idle`	`debian`
`03:33.27`	`benjamin7062`	`weird.`
`03:33.33`	`JackEStorm`	`I didn't have problems with the latest kernel source releases.`
`03:33.36`	`benjamin7062`	`I just did this... and it worked for me`
`03:33.36`	`Idle`	`agreed`
`03:33.48`	`Idle`	`2.4.27 IIRC, default install of stable`
`03:33.57`	`benjamin7062`	`yup`
`03:33.57`	`benjamin7062`	`same`
`03:34.06`	`Idle`	`thats why I thought it was me for a long time`
`03:34.22`	`Idle`	`anyhow, its working now... :S`
`03:34.28`	`dlynes_home`	`2.4.29 has issues, too`
`03:34.32`	`dlynes_home`	`2.4.31 is fine though`
`03:34.50`	`Idle`	`2.4.27-2-386`
`03:34.56`	`Idle`	`thats the one I was using`
`03:35.05`	`JackEStorm`	`IMHO: no matter what distro you use, you should use a custom up to date kernel, built from source, and not packaged.`
`03:35.07`	`Idle`	`it would load the zaptel lines fine`
`03:35.09`	`dlynes_home`	`yeah...i have no idea what the -2 is`
`03:35.19`	`Idle`	`JackEStorm: :)`
`03:35.20`	`benjamin7062`	`Linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Fri Jun 23 20:10:49 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux`
`03:35.24`	`dlynes_home`	`that's a couple of patches that your distro applied to your kernel`
`03:35.26`	`Idle`	`dlynes_home: extra version, distros do that`
`03:35.27`	`benjamin7062`	`rev`
`03:35.48`	`dlynes_home`	`and those two patches could be just about anything`
`03:35.51`	`Brijn`	`Can somebody see why dialing 8500 does not get to the 8500 ext, but goes to XXX. ? http://pastebin.ca/71023`
`03:36.06`	`Idle`	`99% of the time I use custom kernels... this is just a basic box that I really dont want to maintain... just cram in a corner and leave it to do phones`
`03:36.10`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: _XXX. takes priority over 8500`
`03:36.15`	`benjamin7062`	`Yeah, but... literally, I did the same thing on the same kernel`
`03:36.17`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: your dialplan gets sorted`
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`03:36.29`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: learn about the include => statement`
`03:36.32`	`Idle`	`benjamin7062: I know... its wierd`
`03:36.46`	`Brijn`	`dlynes: file indicated the other way round (8500 would be matched)`
`03:37.06`	`Brijn`	`dlynes_ the context with 8500 is incldued above the XXX. ext`
`03:37.17`	`Brijn`	`See the pastebin`
`03:37.50`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: yeah...i generally don't go according to what people tell me; i only use that as guidelines`
`03:38.12`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: people can make mistakes...i'm not saying file is mistaken, but i always double check things myself`
`03:39.03`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: nayways...i would make those extra extensions a separate context`
`03:39.11`	`benjamin7062`	`yeah, besides, file is just a dev guy... those guys drink lots of redbull... Can you really trust someone who has an I.V. punched into a redbull?`
`03:39.12`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: and then include that context where you want it to appear`
`03:39.33`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: if that works, then problem solved`
`03:39.44`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: otherwise, we can look at what else might be causing it`
`03:39.49`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: but i'm pretty sure that's the cause`
`03:40.09`	`file`	`you didn't mention about included contexts :D`
`03:40.15`	`JackEStorm`	`benjamin7062: right now I trust file over rb and kf`
`03:40.34`	`file`	`included contexts get lesser priority, so if you're doing pattern matching in the main context... it'll be favored`
`03:41.26`	`Brijn`	`Ahhh, hmmmm, so would it be better to have one main context and then only have includes in it to make them equally important?`
`03:41.40`	`file`	`give it a try`
`03:41.40`	`dlynes_home`	`file: he just wants to make you look like the bad guy :)`
`03:41.45`	`file`	`trial/error is a good thing!`
`03:41.45`	`benjamin7062`	`Okay, this context question is killing me. When a phone 'enters' into extensions... which conext does it 'start' in... first match? first destination match? etc? Or better, I find 'tons' of wiki howtos on stuff... but where the extensions.conf grand-daddy-documentation?`
`03:42.10`	`file`	`benjamin7062: it starts in the one you tell it to in your configuration, (iax.conf, sip.conf, etc)`
`03:42.17`	`benjamin7062`	`oh`
`03:42.18`	`benjamin7062`	`damn`
`03:42.19`	`benjamin7062`	`i knew that`
`03:42.25`	`benjamin7062`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:42.26`	`file`	`Brijn: fiddle around till you find the behavior you're looking for`
`03:42.53`	`Brijn`	`About Red Bull, I was on an Alaska Air flight two weeks ago, and their the stewardes told that they where the first arline to server RB on board (and she sounded proud)... How long has that styuff been on the market now, 5 years?`
`03:42.58`	`JackEStorm`	`and if you didn't tell it, it is '[default]'`
`03:43.07`	`benjamin7062`	`My brain is at 99% capacity right now.. I'm having to forget childhood memories to learn extensions.conf`
`03:43.25`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: isn't red bull a legal version of crystal meth?`
`03:43.39`	`file`	`I don't like red bull really`
`03:43.52`	`Brijn`	`The manafacturer would like that :-) I don't like it to much`
`03:43.52`	`file`	`I tried it when I was at Digium HQ last time, gave me a monster headache... made me feel horrible`
`03:43.54`	`benjamin7062`	`file prefers crack instead`
`03:44.08`	`dlynes_home`	`benjamin7062: nah...he's canadian`
`03:44.10`	`benjamin7062`	`heh`
`03:44.11`	`benjamin7062`	`oh`
`03:44.12`	`benjamin7062`	`pot`
`03:44.13`	`benjamin7062`	`then`
`03:44.13`	`dlynes_home`	`benjamin7062: pot is our drug of choice`
`03:44.22`	`JackEStorm`	`benjamin7062: then you can move on to extensions.ael`
`03:45.01`	`Brijn`	`I'm a Dutch guy living in Canada, what do you guess is my preferred choice ;)`
`03:45.07`	`dlynes_home`	`pot?`
`03:45.22`	`coppice`	`dlynes_home: so, you've been potty trained :-)`
`03:45.23`	`dlynes_home`	`or hash?`
`03:45.31`	`benjamin7062`	`JackEStorm, Guess I need to make room in my head for that too... there goes any association when my parents, wife, and friends...`
`03:45.37`	`dlynes_home`	`coppice: nah...I rarely drink, never mind smoke pot`
`03:45.44`	`Brijn`	`Nehhh, none of it.. I'm an un-typical dutch guy`
`03:45.56`	`benjamin7062`	`Brijn, coffee`
`03:46.02`	`Brijn`	`Cola`
`03:46.03`	`benjamin7062`	`damn`
`03:46.06`	`benjamin7062`	`I was close`
`03:46.20`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: you're in vancouver?`
`03:46.23`	`Brijn`	`To much coffee makes my stumach (?) upset`
`03:46.25`	`Brijn`	`Yep`
`03:46.35`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: ah...same here`
`03:46.39`	`Brijn`	`Moved here a year ago for the mountains`
`03:46.44`	`Brijn`	`North Shore here`
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`03:46.50`	`JackEStorm`	`benjamin7062: he means he likes Coke first formula, made from the coca leaf.`
`03:46.54`	`dlynes_home`	`vancouver/kingsway here`
`03:47.07`	`dlynes_home`	`moved here to get away from ontario`
`03:47.07`	`benjamin7062`	`LOL @ JackEStorm`
`03:47.12`	`Brijn`	`Close to NCIX :)`
`03:47.20`	`Brijn`	`:-) @ JackE`
`03:47.21`	`dlynes_home`	`then fell in love with the ocean, mountains, and chinese girls`
`03:47.24`	`file`	`I'm in Atlantic Canada, eh?`
`03:47.42`	`dlynes_home`	`Brijn: nah...vancouver kingsway is Nanaimo to Fraser along Kingsway`
`03:47.47`	`drray`	`the pacific northwest is just awesome`
`03:49.46`	`JackEStorm`	`file: your a newfie?`
`03:49.46`	`Brijn`	`It's an amazing place, I used to drive 10hours to get to a ski piste, now it's 15 mins`
`03:49.46`	`file`	`JackEStorm: ...no`
`03:50.50`	`file`	`originally from Nova Scotia, live in New Brunswick`
`03:50.51`	`JackEStorm`	`file: just checking :)`
`03:50.51`	`xachen`	`People from New Brunswick are just plain wierd :P`
`03:50.51`	`file`	`I'll be sure to tell them you said that xachen :D`
`03:50.51`	`xachen`	`I'll be in Fredericton in September`
`03:50.51`	`xachen`	`so start spreading the word!`
`03:50.51`	`xachen`	`:)`
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`03:50.51`	`file`	`you should accidentally appear in Moncton`
`03:50.51`	`xachen`	`with the exception of the newfie`
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`04:20.14`	`file`	`and so they trickle back in`
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`04:26.15`	`wunderkin`	`pwned..`
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`04:33.24`	`PMantis`	`the asterisk server I'm working on seels to hang on playback`
`04:33.26`	`PMantis`	`example: Playing 'your' (language 'en')`
`04:33.35`	`PMantis`	`stays there untill channel is disconnected`
`04:34.21`	`Sedorox`	`lol`
`04:34.34`	`PMantis`	`no audio is heard`
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`04:40.34`	`Brijn`	`Attack as in DoS? Took me a while to reconnect`
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`04:41.09`	`Sedorox`	`no.. as in they took down the servers`
`04:41.46`	`Brijn`	`they.. as in admins?`
`04:42.34`	`Sedorox`	`I dunno... either the admins.. or the people who got in the accounts`
`04:43.58`	`Brijn`	`Pfff, who finds fun in attacking IRC servers`
`04:47.07`	`PMantis`	`Can anyone explain why Asterisk tries to run Play(whatever) , no audio is heard, then it sits there until the channel disconnects?`
`04:47.42`	`Brijn`	`Pmantis, does Music on Hold work?`
`04:47.59`	`PMantis`	`Hmmm, dunno`
`04:48.19`	`PMantis`	`Yup`
`04:48.26`	`PMantis`	`got it paying now. :)`
`04:48.49`	`Brijn`	`ztdummy?`
`04:49.38`	`PMantis`	`Brijn, Who's a dummy??`
`04:50.29`	`Brijn`	`Audio needs a timing source, either ZAP hardware or ztdummy that uses the USB stack (I think)`
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`04:52.10`	`PMantis`	`there's a working TDM400 with 4 channels, and a T1 card`
`04:52.35`	`Brijn`	`Ahh :)`
`04:53.52`	`PMantis`	`I have 1 cordless phone into a Zap, and 10 SIP phones.`
`04:54.05`	`PMantis`	`None of them receive audio, except between each other and MOH`
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`04:55.35`	`benjamin7062`	`Word`
`04:55.39`	`benjamin7062`	`Netsplits are the suck`
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`04:57.26`	`benjamin7062`	`variables in extensions.conf can be snipped like ${VAR:#} so if $VAR = 1234 and ${VAR:1} then output = 234... How do I snip from the end?`
`04:57.27`	`Brijn`	`What causes a netsplit, internet routing probs?`
`04:57.37`	`benjamin7062`	`Not usually...`
`04:57.46`	`benjamin7062`	`The IRC network is made up of trusted hubs`
`04:57.54`	`benjamin7062`	`They 'web' together`
`04:58.12`	`benjamin7062`	`If you lose a server(s) in the middle... the other 'half' of the servers usually drop with it.`
`04:58.56`	`benjamin7062`	`Cause can be a 'lot' of things but isn't always routing as much as it might be cut fiber, hardware failures, and a psycho sysop doing maintenance`
`04:59.24`	`benjamin7062`	`Also, IRC networks can be the target of a lot of mischief`
`05:00.07`	`benjamin7062`	`Netsplits are the suck because all the sharp dev guys vanish afterwards.. =)`
`05:00.28`	`Brijn`	`Is there a substr functon int he dialplan`
`05:00.55`	`benjamin7062`	`That is probably a shorter way to ask my question. =)`
`05:01.14`	`benjamin7062`	`I know how to snip x bytes from the head of the str... but not the tail`
`05:01.30`	`PMantis`	`There is a ${VAR:1:3} option, but i don't rem,ember what it does.`
`05:01.40`	`benjamin7062`	`gasp`
`05:01.41`	`benjamin7062`	`how dumb`
`05:01.43`	`benjamin7062`	`I bet that's it`
`05:01.52`	`benjamin7062`	`<-- should have tried that`
`05:01.56`	`Brijn`	`Sounds like a logic thing :`
`05:01.56`	`PMantis`	`heh`
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`05:04.17`	`*** topic/#asterisk by irc.freenode.net -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX -=- http://www.asterisk.org -=- Asterisk 1.2.9.1 and 1.0.11.1 released with a critical security fix for chan_iax2, please upgrade immediately (June 6, 2006) -=- FreePBX/AMP/Asterisk@Home/Trixbox support in #freepbx`
`05:04.18`	`Idle`	`sigh ntpd: unknown user root`
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`05:04.19`	`benjamin7062`	`heh`
`05:04.19`	`PMantis`	`Maybe asterisk was created by C programmers?? :-)`
`05:04.19`	`benjamin7062`	`bummer`
`05:04.43`	`Idle`	`thats always fun seeing LINUX errors on a linksys device`
`05:04.43`	`Idle`	`OH GOD`
`05:04.43`	`Idle`	`irssi is sucking lately`
`05:05.05`	`PMantis`	`wow, net rejoined`
`05:05.12`	`benjamin7062`	`PMantis, nah -- they were perl developers... on lots of drugs`
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`05:05.26`	`PMantis`	`Can anyone explain why Asterisk tries to run Play(whatever) , no audio is heard, then it sits there until the channel disconnects?`
`05:05.43`	`PMantis`	`This happens with SIP or Zap extensions`
`05:05.46`	`benjamin7062`	`See... that proves it... written in perl!`
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`05:06.39`	`Brijn`	`Perl I understand, but Asterisk mistifies me everytime, but that is because there are so many new options/logic to get used to`
`05:07.05`	`benjamin7062`	`Brijn, I started two days ago... I feel your pain`
`05:08.01`	`Brijn`	`benj: But you come from a telco background?`
`05:09.11`	`benjamin7062`	`I paid Digium $1200 to have their tech login and build from scratch watching via screen -- well worth the money. Have 'em build you a sample of most of the features... but leave you with a BASIC setup. They will explain as they go. Like a crash course. Extensions.conf is the learning curve and a lot easier to learn when you have examples typed in front of you and explained`
`05:09.24`	`benjamin7062`	`Brijn, telco/unix/dev background`
`05:09.52`	`benjamin7062`	`Well, and I suppose I worked as a Net Eng for an ISP for a few years`
`05:10.22`	`Brijn`	`I've used Linux for > 10 years.. Are pretty OK with Perl and PHP, but lack telco knowledge.. And have a problem getting my head around he logic :)`
`05:10.44`	`benjamin7062`	`Good news for you then`
`05:10.54`	`benjamin7062`	`Asterisk is much cleaner and logical than most telco gear`
`05:11.41`	`Brijn`	`I love it, I mean, it took me 30 minutes to modify an incoming Callerid so that it made more sense with my phone.. Try that with normal telco stuff..`
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`05:12.20`	`benjamin7062`	`The 'best' way to approach it is write down on paper 'every' detail that you want to accomplish... then jump into extensions.conf and begin your journey. Basically, that file is a map to 'everything'... and configs feed it`
`05:12.25`	`Brijn`	`There is no limit to what you can do.. I really believe that it will be a starting point of amazing integration`
`05:13.18`	`Brijn`	`I'm hoping that our current PBX will break down so that I can roll in * ;-)`
`05:13.23`	`benjamin7062`	`Brijn, Normal telco stuff is ... rough -> easy... depending on how far back you go... and if they have good gui's... Avaya IP Office (what I'm using now) is easy enough for a 12 yr old to manage... But it'll cost you 100K to get the same functionality and scalability`
`05:13.44`	`benjamin7062`	`How big is your company?`
`05:13.53`	`benjamin7062`	`ish`
`05:14.14`	`Brijn`	`Small, 45ppl, but some other office around the world that we might integrate`
`05:14.26`	`benjamin7062`	`Pssh`
`05:14.34`	`benjamin7062`	`That's easy for a * box`
`05:14.41`	`Brijn`	`But they travel a lot, and then you can do all sorts of cool stuff`
`05:14.48`	`benjamin7062`	`Darn right`
`05:14.52`	`Brijn`	`I know`
`05:14.55`	`benjamin7062`	`that's why I'm looking at it`
`05:15.54`	`Brijn`	`My ultimate dream, our company manage large container ships. Get sattelite broadband on board and put * onboard as well`
`05:15.54`	`benjamin7062`	`I'm about to replace this IP Office... 25K to upgrade it to support our 40 person call center... 15K to completely replace our 'entire' company with new phones, * box, and 5 hours of digium training`
`05:16.27`	`benjamin7062`	`sat broadband will be 'rough'... most are behind NAT... with 'high' latency... it 'works'... but it'll be the worst cell phone delay you've ever experienced`
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`05:17.14`	`benjamin7062`	`Although, rumor has it they will have low orbit sat broadband in about 6 years which will have 'much' better latency`
`05:17.20`	`Brijn`	`New BGAN by Inmarsat does QoS for VoiP, they route current calls over it as well, you would be suprised about the quality.. But current inmarsat is 14 US$/min`
`05:18.11`	`Brijn`	`Take a lot bitrate VoiP codec and you go down to 3-4 US$/mth`
`05:18.14`	`Brijn`	`min`
`05:18.17`	`benjamin7062`	`Yeah... Sat time is expensive... You will be paying similar if you buy dedicated sat time`
`05:19.37`	`benjamin7062`	`BUT, I haven't priced that out in a while. Worked for a company a long time ago deploying drill rig analysis data via sat net to the PE's back home`
`05:19.44`	`benjamin7062`	`expensive`
`05:19.45`	`benjamin7062`	`BUT`
`05:20.00`	`Brijn`	`Things changed a bit I guess`
`05:20.00`	`benjamin7062`	`cheap for them considering the value and convenience`
`05:20.14`	`Brijn`	`http://broadband.inmarsat.com/`
`05:20.16`	`benjamin7062`	`they speak in millions... I speak in pennies`
`05:20.18`	`benjamin7062`	`yeah`
`05:20.28`	`benjamin7062`	`I haven't priced out sat stuff in a 'long' time`
`05:21.24`	`Brijn`	`Oh well, I'm afraid our PBX will survive for a bit longer.. Maybe I can setup a "linked" * box for calls to India (an office)`
`05:21.58`	`kizmet`	`hehe`
`05:22.08`	`kizmet`	`Brijn, nice idea :)`
`05:22.29`	`benjamin7062`	`Have a * box ready to go... then take care of your problem with a small dose of C4`
`05:22.52`	`Brijn`	`Sounds like a cool project you have benj: But you need to sell it to management first?`
`05:23.10`	`benjamin7062`	`or... install a lightning rod on the ceiling of your building and ground it to a circuit board in your PBX while no one is looking =)`
`05:23.11`	`Brijn`	`Hmm, C4, hmmmm, my servers are 20 cm away.. My BCP plan is not yet ready :)`
`05:23.23`	`benjamin7062`	`hehehe`
`05:24.37`	`Brijn`	`It's cool to see so many apps coming out for *, the SNAP dialer is nice`
`05:24.42`	`benjamin7062`	`Brijn, I have to 'prove' that the quality, functionality, and stability of the * box will match that of our Avaya. If the functionality works by Monday... then we switch. I have a check on my desk for 12.5K(half the upgrade) to make our Avaya do the same job`
`05:24.43`	`benjamin7062`	`sad`
`05:24.58`	`benjamin7062`	`Yup`
`05:25.19`	`benjamin7062`	`although, the interface (manager) is freaking ascii... you can write 'anything' for this puppy`
`05:25.36`	`benjamin7062`	`yum`
`05:25.39`	`benjamin7062`	`color screens`
`05:25.57`	`benjamin7062`	`Kizmet -- You must have your CCO with Cisco.. or are you using SCCP?`
`05:26.20`	`kizmet`	`SCCP using chan_sccp v2`
`05:26.27`	`benjamin7062`	`DAMN`
`05:26.37`	`benjamin7062`	`I need a SIP image for this darn 7960`
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`05:28.27`	`Brijn`	`benj: Home much time did you have for your PoC`
`05:29.06`	`benjamin7062`	`kizmet, BTW -- I'd love to know your experiences with the cisco's... I'm evaluating phones ... Polycom, Snom, and Cisco... all have different advantages/disadvantages... I'd love to hear your thoughts`
`05:29.27`	`benjamin7062`	`Brijn, 3 days... starting Friday (yesterday)`
`05:29.44`	`kizmet`	`Basically we chose the 7970's for there Java programability... and Gigabit Ethernet.`
`05:30.04`	`benjamin7062`	`The java/xml interface is 'exactly' what I'm interested in`
`05:30.05`	`Brijn`	`Oops :-)`
`05:30.16`	`benjamin7062`	`Like the Polycom cause it supports xhtml which is good enough`
`05:30.32`	`benjamin7062`	`I've read the SIP images for cisco don't have a good range of xml support`
`05:30.38`	`Brijn`	`kizmet: Why Gbit? You don't need that much BW.. Or you have your PC's connectected to the PC and they need the BW`
`05:30.40`	`benjamin7062`	`So, I'd love to hear your experiences.`
`05:30.42`	`kizmet`	`They are stable phones with 'great' functionality how ever there firmware allways makes the configs a different name thats why we have used a fat32 fs on our PBX server for the tftp partition anyways.`
`05:30.52`	`kizmet`	`Brijn, PC's need it.`
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`05:31.39`	`benjamin7062`	`kizmet, Ahh... so it isn't case sensitive.`
`05:31.49`	`kizmet`	`benjamin7062, exactly :)`
`05:32.23`	`benjamin7062`	`kizmet, that is much wiser than what I would have done (perl hax)`
`05:32.37`	`benjamin7062`	`I think I like pain... I must... I never think of the 'easy' way`
`05:32.38`	`kizmet`	`lol`
`05:32.59`	`benjamin7062`	`which is often the 'smarter' way`
`05:35.02`	`kizmet`	`lol`
`05:35.04`	`kizmet`	`:)`
`05:36.00`	`kizmet`	`eh... gota configure a Cisco Router tomorrow :(`
`05:36.51`	`benjamin7062`	`Simple config? or firewall, bgp, etc?`
`05:36.54`	`Brijn`	`cisco is nice, but same things as *, you need to know a million jeywords`
`05:37.01`	`Brijn`	`keywords`
`05:37.16`	`kizmet`	`firewall, bgp4, multi-tier, QoS`
`05:37.29`	`Brijn`	`Hmpff, I hope you have examples`
`05:37.44`	`kizmet`	`nup... Cisco Site & Google is my friend`
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`05:38.22`	`Brijn`	`What I remember is that the config is relatively complex because of the trunks to the phones.. The QoS part had many lines in it.. But ones you have it correct, it the same for all ports`
`05:38.30`	`benjamin7062`	`BGP always eats my ass... For whatever reason I always have some multi-path routing issue that takes 234234 pads and hax to fix`
`05:38.38`	`benjamin7062`	`It's suppose to be simple`
`05:38.41`	`benjamin7062`	`I never get lucky`
`05:39.20`	`kizmet`	`lol`
`05:39.58`	`kizmet`	`this one wont be doing phones... just qos for other data ...`
`05:41.13`	`kizmet`	`i think that the model is a 1200 VXR im not sure tho... its a core router for our new multitier network.`
`05:41.35`	`benjamin7062`	`See, I'm backwards from you guys... The QoS/trunking usually goes smooth... but by goodness, if I need it to 'route' to an optimal gateway... pssh, good luck... I hit 17 countries and 38 sat bounces before reaching the destination`
`05:41.46`	`kizmet`	`lol`
`05:42.42`	`benjamin7062`	`I should say, QoS, vlanning, internal subnetting.. etc...`
`05:42.53`	`Brijn`	`benj: You probably sent you email as bas.brijn.nu\|mail.lightspeed\|user.mail.server\|benjamin.mail.server`
`05:44.14`	`benjamin7062`	`And I worked for an ISP for several years doing it daily. You'd think I wouldn't be a tard.. but it's true. I 'always' had to deal with BGP while everyone else go to do the easy stuff. And, the routing issues were never 'simple'... Always something retarded and time consuming.`
`05:44.33`	`benjamin7062`	`Brijn, What's wrong with sending email that way?`
`05:45.04`	`Brijn`	`benj: Nothing, the rest of the world stopped with that 20 years ago (providing complete path)`
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`05:49.17`	`Brijn`	`Anyone using a Wifi SIP phone.. They look cool :)`
`05:49.56`	`benjamin7062`	`We 'will' be`
`05:51.01`	`Brijn`	`Did you already select one?`
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`05:51.44`	`Un1x`	`helllo my furry freinds :P`
`05:51.44`	`Un1x`	`hehe`
`05:52.07`	`Un1x`	`im bored :(`
`05:52.13`	`Brijn`	`benj: For somebody on a tight deadline you spent a lot of time typing ;)`
`05:53.26`	`benjamin7062`	`=) I have 6 monitors feeding into my computer... chat is just one of 'em... while I read about queues, extensions, and tweak the configs`
`05:54.28`	`Brijn`	`6 :) You'll have a nice sunburn`
`05:55.02`	`benjamin7062`	`I wouldn't know... I'm going blind from cancer of the eye`
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`05:55.31`	`benjamin7062`	`I've sat in here for the past few days. You can learn a LOT about what problems others have... and from others questions`
`05:55.34`	`Idle`	`hm, how would I go about adding public access, so I can give out a sip address for people to call?`
`05:56.07`	`Jick`	`Anyone here ever mess with AGI? I'm writing a script and Asterisk's I/O with AGI scripts seems ridiculously sporatic...`
`05:56.12`	`kizmet`	`Idle, guestcontext=internal-only`
`05:56.25`	`Idle`	`kizmet: hmmmm`
`05:57.11`	`Idle`	`how does that work...`
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`05:57.54`	`Idle`	`if I wanted them to call me@mydomain.com where asterisk os on mydomain.com, no matter what username it would just dial the s context?`
`05:57.56`	`kizmet`	`chuck it in your [general] section of your sip.conf and make a context in extensions.conf for the internal only calls.`
`05:58.08`	`kizmet`	`Idle, thats right`
`05:58.23`	`kizmet`	`add a entry in the context that is named s ;)`
`05:59.01`	`Un1x`	`hmmm`
`05:59.27`	`Idle`	`theres no way for them to call other extensions in it? (since I have no others)`
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`05:59.55`	`kizmet`	`well unless they haxxor your asterisk server and add extra extens in it, no`
`06:00.27`	`Idle`	`;)`
`06:00.47`	`benjamin7062`	`LOL`
`06:00.52`	`Idle`	`now, if I wanted to add extensions to that, would they do like: 123@server.com ?`
`06:00.56`	`benjamin7062`	`that was the best question ev-ar`
`06:01.43`	`Idle`	`:D`
`06:01.45`	`kizmet`	`Idle, whey would be able to jump onto any exten in the context.`
`06:01.51`	`kizmet`	`so dont enable external calling axx :P`
`06:01.52`	`Un1x`	`hm`
`06:02.01`	`Idle`	`ok, cool`
`06:02.22`	`Idle`	`so me@context would get the extension 'me' (is that possible? or only numbers),`
`06:02.35`	`Idle`	`er, me@domain.com`
`06:02.58`	`Idle`	`if I had no 'me', it just uses 's', right?`
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`06:04.12`	`Brijn`	`Idle, I don't think so, I think it would generate Number not found, you need to match it with a pattern`
`06:04.20`	`Brijn`	`Best things is to try :)`
`06:04.25`	`Idle`	`hm`
`06:04.36`	`Idle`	`maybe it would just jump to the i context then`
`06:04.45`	`Idle`	`I dont have a non-registered phone, so I cant really tell`
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`06:06.02`	`Idle`	`know of any sip softphones that can call sip addresses for mac off hand?`
`06:06.10`	`Un1x`	`i wish i knew how to get a free pstn line connection and assign myself a priv8 number`
`06:06.11`	`Un1x`	`:(`
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`06:09.55`	`iq`	`yo Un1x`
`06:14.35`	`benjamin7062`	`I need to setup a queue that works like this: queue1 -> if full -> queue2 -> if full -> queue1`
`06:15.01`	`benjamin7062`	`I'm sure I need to do this in extensions.conf... but how do I do a if condition to check if queue1 is full?`
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`06:19.53`	`Idle`	`kizmet: not working`
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`06:20.24`	`kizmet`	`Idle, http://www.voip-info.org search on sip guest`
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`06:26.53`	`Idle`	`:P k`
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`07:00.11`	`benjamin7062`	`hey lilo`
`07:00.15`	`benjamin7062`	`QUIT IT!`
`07:00.22`	`benjamin7062`	`=)`
`07:00.29`	`X-Rob`	`Yeah!`
`07:00.41`	`benjamin7062`	`heh`
`07:00.45`	`benjamin7062`	`he keeps breaking IRC`
`07:01.04`	`benjamin7062`	`I'm going to change my name to grub just to offend him`
`07:14.20`	`tzafrir`	`<lilo> I'm named after a favorite science fiction character, in John Varley's THE OPHIUCHI HOTLINE. I am not named after the LInux LOader, and I didn't write it! :) -- lilo, winter 1993 \|\| Nor am I named after the little girl in the movie, nor the air mattress, nor Last In Last Out. ;) -- lilo, summer 2003`
`07:14.53`	`benjamin7062`	`heh`
`07:14.56`	`benjamin7062`	`touche`
`07:15.01`	`benjamin7062`	`who lilo`
`07:15.19`	`tzafrir`	`Just quoting him quoting himself`
`07:15.58`	`benjamin7062`	`Well, if you are talking to him... tell him to stop breaking IRC... It's 'his' fault the servers are getting a heavy load`
`07:16.09`	`benjamin7062`	`<-- feels a /kick soon`
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`07:16.50`	`benjamin7062`	`dang`
`07:20.08`	`Un1x`	`lol`
`08:02.26`	`X-Rob`	`OK I'm amused.`
`08:02.36`	`X-Rob`	`<X-Rob> CCM is Cisco's Asterisk`
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`08:03.29`	`X-Rob`	`Ahha`
`08:03.38`	`X-Rob`	`REALLY it was lilo's IRC session that was killing the servers!`
`08:04.17`	`X-Rob`	`Wups. Now I've offended him.`
`08:04.22`	`tzafrir`	`this is the alternatives to restart that they're testing`
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`08:16.27`	`mitcheloc`	`they should have some sort of transfer method in the irc protocol (or do they), to push connected clients to other servers...`
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`08:33.44`	`Ifaistos`	`morning all`
`08:36.06`	`blitzrage`	`hoi`
`08:37.57`	`Ifaistos`	`Anyone familiar with how TDMoE works ?`
`08:39.12`	`Ifaistos`	`What i would like to know is if its possible to use a card (x100p for example) that is installed on a second machine without having to run * on it, just the zapata +friends drivers`
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`08:47.09`	`ghenry`	`when having >50 SIP users, instead of 50 users in sip.conf is Realtime SIP the best way to go?`
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`08:51.09`	`littleball`	`hello, any way to force reload of the realtime static configuration?`
`08:52.54`	`littleball`	`my external program modify the realtime static configuration db. Now, i need to manually do sip reload over CLI console. is it possible to command the asterisk server to refresh every 30 minutes?`
`08:53.22`	`benjamin7062`	`In extensions.conf how do you check for either a queue wait time, agents available, or something of this nature?`
`08:53.34`	`tzafrir`	`Ifaistos, note, however, the communication overhead of such setup`
`08:54.54`	`benjamin7062`	`yes.. with a crontab.. =)`
`08:55.18`	`benjamin7062`	`asterisk -rx'reload' in crontab`
`08:55.29`	`benjamin7062`	`or sip reload rather`
`08:55.44`	`littleball`	`benjamin7062, thanks. i will try`
`08:57.13`	`benjamin7062`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:57.26`	`littleball`	`thanks`
`08:57.42`	`Ifaistos`	`tzafrir: Yes its acceptable (in my case). What i have not understood is that if zapatas TDMoE functionality would work without haveing * in both boxes`
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`08:59.55`	`benjamin7062`	`Hmm..`
`09:00.00`	`Ifaistos`	`tzafrir: I think it should but the examples mention changes/entries to zapata.conf (i.e the macaddress for example) in both machines`
`09:00.23`	`benjamin7062`	`I thought lib_pri and zap created /dev attachments... wouldn't the code being looking for a local 'something' to hook to?`
`09:00.51`	`benjamin7062`	`/dev/zap or something rather`
`09:01.52`	`Ifaistos`	`benjamin7062: Are you reffering to my question ?`
`09:02.21`	`benjamin7062`	`Ifaistos, beh, I'm just spitting useless propoganda -- just ignore me.`
`09:02.53`	`benjamin7062`	`You guys don't know how to check queue status of any sort from within a dialplan/context?`
`09:02.55`	`Ifaistos`	`benjamin7062: NP. Even propaganda is good :)`
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`09:04.09`	`RoyK`	`morning`
`09:04.16`	`benjamin7062`	`Ifaistos, I don't know low enough whether that would be possible but logic would think that * would be call zap stuff through it's /dev handle... which I would assume it would look local. But my lack of context into 'how' it works... makes me useless to you`
`09:06.18`	`Ifaistos`	`benjamin7062: I have recently used ATA over Ethernet which basicaly makes a remote ATA disk look as a local disk to your machine. I am thinking that TDMoE would work on a similar way`
`09:06.52`	`Ifaistos`	`benjamin7062: But again i might be wrong :/`
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`09:09.18`	`tzafrir`	`benjamin7062, such a cron job may generate an email every 30 minutes is asterisk is verbose`
`09:10.04`	`tzafrir`	`Ifaistos, you're right. This is how it basically works. I never tried it, though`
`09:11.05`	`kizmet`	`ghenry, I use realtime for both my companys SIP & SCCP Phones i also use it for voicemail`
`09:15.40`	`benjamin7062`	`tzafrir, Eh,... you're right should have added > /dev/null to the end...`
`09:15.41`	`benjamin7062`	`woops`
`09:17.19`	`kumamoto`	`has anyone tried using the sipura spa941 phone? if so what is your opinion on it?`
`09:17.28`	`benjamin7062`	`Ifaistos, didn't even know you could do ATAoE... does it work better than say nfs? I guess there'd be 'less' overhead or is the advantage just raw writes/reads to the drive as if it was local?`
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`09:17.47`	`benjamin7062`	`kumamoto, when you find out... let me know too! =)`
`09:18.31`	`kumamoto`	`yeah sure if I can find someone who has`
`09:18.59`	`hads\|home`	`I have a SPA94 on my desk. What do you want to know?`
`09:19.16`	`hads\|home`	`s/SPA94/SPA941/`
`09:23.25`	`kumamoto`	`how good is it? is it hell to configure do you have any comparison to polycom ip301 is it a good biz phone`
`09:23.57`	`kumamoto`	`sorry don't mean to bombbard u with all these questions but looking for info`
`09:25.08`	`hads\|home`	`Good is a perception. Unfortunatly I haven't played with a Polycom so I can't directly compare. It's easy to configure, the web interface is very similar to any other Linksys/Sipura device. I haven't done any bulk provisioning yet.`
`09:27.18`	`hads\|home`	`kumamoto: It also has a good solid feel to it.`
`09:27.39`	`kizmet`	`hads\|home, the bulk provisioning is basically the same as the 'normal' configuration mode on a Cisco 7960 etc. Simple and Effective. They look nice. I havent had much more to do with them than there counterparts (Cisco 79XX series)`
`09:29.52`	`hads\|home`	`Cool. Yeah, I'm pleased with the phone overall. It could do with a backlight back that's a minor niggle. I hear the SPA9x2 models may have a backlit display. I have a 922 on order so I'll take a look.`
`09:30.42`	`kizmet`	`kumamoto, The handset is simmilar to the Cisco 79XX series and is weighted (only slightly) The screen is im assuming now the same screen that is in a Cisco 7912 so it is small but it can display enough detail to have a image loaded on the phone and be able to tell what it is. Im looking into getting some 9X2 models i have ordered 3 for testing purposes.`
`09:30.59`	`mitcheloc`	`DrkShdw: doesn't idefisk work for you?`
`09:31.18`	`DrkShdw`	`let me rephrase, a hardphone :)`
`09:31.30`	`mitcheloc`	`;)`
`09:31.41`	`kizmet`	`DrkShdw, Should get a nice Cordless or desk phone and hook it into a iaxy`
`09:31.46`	`mitcheloc`	`it's probably not going to happen =P`
`09:32.03`	`DrkShdw`	`iaxy?`
`09:32.16`	`mitcheloc`	`spa-2000 in iax form`
`09:32.31`	`kizmet`	`http://www.digium.com look in the hardware section, as mitcheloc said a spa-2000 that does iax.`
`09:32.51`	`tzafrir`	`spa1000 in an iax form (single fxs port)`
`09:32.51`	`DrkShdw`	`never heard of it, I just googled it and will check it out.`
`09:33.13`	`kizmet`	`DrkShdw, you provision it from within asterisk its kinda neat actually :)`
`09:33.25`	`hads\|home`	`The Virbiage 3010 look like a good IAX ATA. Might be worth checking out too.`
`09:33.43`	`DrkShdw`	`sounds perfect. I'm just tired of SIP with nat`
`09:33.45`	`mitcheloc`	`the iaxy supports digium =P`
`09:33.50`	`kizmet`	`hads\|home, i have heard some horror storys about them`
`09:34.22`	`hads\|home`	`Interesting. I haven't touched them yet but heard a couple of good reports.`
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`09:35.49`	`Zeeek`	`all dressed up and nowhere to go`
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`09:37.03`	`hads\|home`	`Of course supporting Digium is a good thing, but the IAXy could do with g729.`
`09:37.12`	`kizmet`	`yeh :(`
`09:37.16`	`drray`	`for $129`
`09:37.25`	`kizmet`	`i use ulaw at home for all my voice comms`
`09:37.51`	`Zeeek`	`I think the best use of IAXy is right at the asterisk box`
`09:38.25`	`hads\|home`	`Yeah, on LAN's I use alaw, but for remote connections 729 is handy.`
`09:38.29`	`Zeeek`	`now I have to go to brunch :)`
`09:38.35`	`Zeeek`	`lay tah`
`09:38.36`	`DrkShdw`	`as opposed to CPE?`
`09:38.54`	`drray`	`g729 is worth every penny`
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`09:39.44`	`kizmet`	`Company i work for has a 10,000 channel license w/ asterisk modules not sure if we got it from digium or not :S`
`09:40.02`	`hads\|home`	`heh, that's quite a few.`
`09:40.13`	`kizmet`	`wait let me correct myself.`
`09:40.32`	`kizmet`	`10,000 channel license per voice node (asterisk) there is 4 voice nodes.`
`09:41.16`	`kizmet`	`so $400,000 worth :S`
`09:41.37`	`drray`	`well, bandwidth saved`
`09:42.03`	`kizmet`	`we use alaw for all the Cisco ATA's cuz we use em for faxes ;)`
`09:42.18`	`drray`	`kizmet - how well does that work?`
`09:42.30`	`kizmet`	`drray, quite well actually`
`09:42.46`	`kizmet`	`you only get a 14.4k connection but hell thats fast enough for a fax machine.`
`09:43.10`	`drray`	`I do payphones, and there is a control software for it that has a problem connecting to the payphones over the iaxy`
`09:43.21`	`drray`	`it takes several attempts to get a good load`
`09:43.26`	`kizmet`	`hmm`
`09:43.37`	`mitcheloc`	`people still use payphones?`
`09:43.40`	`kizmet`	`the Cisco ATA-186's work wonderfully.`
`09:43.42`	`drray`	`people do`
`09:43.50`	`drray`	`it's a convience`
`09:43.58`	`drray`	`not a growth industry`
`09:44.49`	`kizmet`	`drray, you should attempt it with a cisco ata and see how you go.`
`09:44.51`	`littleball`	`hello, anyone usng Nokia E60/E61? it is supposed to work with SIP`
`09:45.10`	`drray`	`kizmet - I will`
`09:45.32`	`kizmet`	`i have been monitoring the fax lines and 98% of the fax's are successfull (we have fax machines which we can collect stats from)`
`09:45.52`	`drray`	`that's pretty damn good`
`09:46.01`	`kizmet`	`drray, however i am using SCCP for them not sure if that makes a difference.`
`09:47.06`	`drray`	`what I need is a pcmcia fxs port`
`09:47.09`	`kumamoto`	`thanks for that information all`
`09:47.21`	`drray`	`then I could just show up at a location, put the payphone on the laptop`
`09:47.44`	`kizmet`	`kumamoto, np`
`09:47.49`	`drray`	`hmmm`
`09:47.53`	`drray`	`that gives me an idea`
`09:48.56`	`kumamoto`	`any dCAP certified?`
`09:49.00`	`kumamoto`	`just curious`
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`09:49.31`	`mitcheloc`	`heh my shiny new ubuntu install needs a reboot, it's locking up =/`
`09:49.45`	`uwe`	`hello, can anyone tell me how lucky i will be installing asterisk on freebsd 6.0 ?`
`09:50.02`	`mitcheloc`	`uwe: from what i hear, it's a black art ;)`
`09:50.35`	`DrkShdw`	`asterisk works fine on freebsd. the question is: do you need any FXO or FXS? if so, hardware support is lacking. if yer PURE voip, fbsd is fine.`
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`09:51.25`	`kumamoto`	`uwe: have you tried using the ports`
`09:51.53`	`uwe`	`im in the process ...`
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`09:52.03`	`uwe`	`doing cvsup`
`09:52.33`	`kumamoto`	`what is the difference btwn using FXO cards and using analog adaptors?`
`09:52.51`	`luke-jr_`	`drray: Fax works fine over my ulaw...`
`09:53.08`	`DrkShdw`	`uwe: you may wanna check out http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+FreeBSD and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=FreeBSD+zaptel`
`09:53.36`	`uwe`	`well, would you suggest running it on debian or on freebsd`
`09:53.37`	`DrkShdw`	`The second link, is the zaptel on fbsd project. the zaptel drivers are in alpha/beta stages.. so you might have varying degrees of success`
`09:54.42`	`DrkShdw`	`uwe: do you need fxo/fxs hardware? if so, I'd suggest a linux distro. if you don't, and just need voip.. fbsd is fine.`
`09:57.42`	`DrkShdw`	`well, it's 6:00am, and my new kernel is not even close to being compiled. I had to enable pf and quota support. I think I'ma hit the sack and installkernel tomorrow.`
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`10:10.05`	`kumamoto`	`DrkShdw: good luck`
`10:10.23`	`phonic`	`hey, i have a bunch numbers(1) who redirect calls to another number(2). when i call, "caller" is set to number (2). can i get information about which of the (1) numbers i've called?`
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`10:12.40`	`RoyK`	`hm... this gizmo project sip client is scary...`
`10:13.07`	`mitcheloc`	`?`
`10:13.16`	`kizmet`	`phonic, unless the machine re-routing the call displays the correct callerid info i would dare say not. unless they can give you an indication via a http push or somthing that notifies you that (1) channel is going to connect to (2) channel and its caller id is (3) for example i doubt it.`
`10:13.23`	`kumamoto`	`RoyK: is that right?`
`10:14.47`	`RoyK`	`just a sec. writing a small article about it....`
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`10:18.35`	`phonic`	`kizmet. okay, the (1) numbers are swedish pay numbers, and my operator is routing the pay numbers to a standard number`
`10:19.18`	`kizmet`	`phonic, unless you can get them to alter the caller id to the number that was called no.`
`10:20.08`	`phonic`	`okay`
`10:20.12`	`kizmet`	`phonic, you could allways use multiple standard numbers and only forward one pay number to one standard number.`
`10:20.12`	`phonic`	`i have this in my agi script`
`10:20.13`	`phonic`	`$called_number = $agi->request['agi_extension'];`
`10:20.14`	`phonic`	`$caller = $agi->request['agi_callerid'];`
`10:20.25`	`phonic`	`that's true, but expensive i think :)`
`10:20.39`	`phonic`	`agi_extension is set to the standard number (2)`
`10:20.48`	`phonic`	`agi_callerid is set to my number (the one i call from)`
`10:20.51`	`kizmet`	`you will need them to set the callerid to be the number that is being called.`
`10:21.02`	`phonic`	`mmkay`
`10:21.21`	`phonic`	`well i have to talk to my operator`
`10:21.27`	`kizmet`	`yep :)`
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`10:22.53`	`kizmet`	`sounds like your provider is just deflecting the call to the number, keeping the callerid in tact.`
`10:24.17`	`phonic`	`mm. there's no asterisk variable to get "route information" or somenting?`
`10:24.41`	`phonic`	`i.e. my (1) number`
`10:28.03`	`kizmet`	`unless you can get it from the CPE on a Digium card no.`
`10:28.04`	`kizmet`	`sorry.`
`10:28.42`	`phonic`	`what's the CPI? :)`
`10:29.15`	`phonic`	`i have a digum card`
`10:29.22`	`kizmet`	`lol im tired and have forgotten the proper name but its basically your providers exchange equiptment`
`10:29.48`	`kizmet`	`phonic, which digium card do you have ?`
`10:30.53`	`phonic`	`diva server 4bri-8m 2.0`
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`10:34.46`	`kizmet`	`phonic, is that an official digium card ?`
`10:36.16`	`phonic`	`aww, i mix the manufacturer's name up. it's an eicon card`
`10:36.20`	`phonic`	`my bad. sorry ;)`
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`11:01.32`	`RoyK`	`kumamoto: http://karlsbakk.net/asterisk/gizmo-project.php`
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`11:08.59`	`mitcheloc`	`crrepy`
`11:09.22`	`mitcheloc`	`put some g ads on that page and post to digg ;)`
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`11:12.50`	`coppice`	`I wonder why all these projects, like gizmo and skype, keep using the GIPS stuff?`
`11:13.17`	`mitcheloc`	`gips?`
`11:14.37`	`X-Rob`	`gimps?`
`11:14.48`	`coppice`	`http://www.globalipsound.com/`
`11:14.56`	`littleball`	`http://www.globalipsound.com/ ?`
`11:15.18`	`coppice`	`the people who brought you such dumb ideas as iLBC`
`11:15.36`	`X-Rob`	`GIPS SoundWareTM enables VoIP implementations to withstand up to 30% packet loss and maintain telco-grade voice quality or better.`
`11:15.45`	`X-Rob`	`That _must_ be crap.`
`11:15.55`	`coppice`	`yeah, right`
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`11:16.41`	`X-Rob`	`Open Positions.. I can't see 'Spin Doctor' or 'Fall Guy' there.`
`11:16.51`	`coppice`	`their concept of telco-grade must be cellular 3 basement levels down`
`11:17.01`	`X-Rob`	`heh`
`11:24.07`	`littleball`	`hello, anyone has experience of providing sip service to customers here?`
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`11:24.13`	`tzafrir`	`coppice, what better alternative would you use?`
`11:25.17`	`ChrisDe3`	`Hi. have some strange problems with asterisk... The call was ended after some seconds. But asterisk thought the call to be up for more than one hour`
`11:25.18`	`littleball`	`what is a good/easy way to provide SIP service to customers?`
`11:25.28`	`ChrisDe3`	`full.3:Jun 22 09:05:11 VERBOSE[1955] logger.c: -- SIP/217.111.25.154-c7ac answered SIP/21100000278-ce04`
`11:25.37`	`ChrisDe3`	`full.3:Jun 22 09:05:11 DEBUG[1955] channel.c: Dropping duplicate answer!`
`11:25.56`	`littleball`	`SIP? ChrisDE3`
`11:25.59`	`ChrisDe3`	`yes`
`11:26.00`	`ChrisDe3`	`full.3:Jun 22 10:06:11 DEBUG[1955] channel.c: Didn't get a frame from channel: SIP/217.111.25.154-c7ac`
`11:26.29`	`ChrisDe3`	`and finally: full.3:Jun 22 10:06:11 DEBUG[1955] channel.c: Bridge stops bridging channels SIP/21100000278-ce04 and SIP/217.111.25.154-c7ac`
`11:26.44`	`ChrisDe3`	`so does anyonte know whats up here?`
`11:27.11`	`ChrisDe3`	`so asterisk is telling something with duplicate answer?`
`11:27.30`	`littleball`	`do you use any other sip proxy?`
`11:27.34`	`ChrisDe3`	`no`
`11:27.39`	`ChrisDe3`	`just asterisk`
`11:28.03`	`littleball`	`which asterisk version?`
`11:28.19`	`ChrisDe3`	`and this problem happens only with very few calls`
`11:28.37`	`ChrisDe3`	`Connected to Asterisk 1.2.9.1`
`11:29.27`	`littleball`	`no idea`
`11:30.11`	`RoyK`	`http://karlsbakk.net/asterisk/gizmo-project.php <-- read this if you have any intention of using the Gizmo Project with Asterisk :)`
`11:32.59`	`littleball`	`RoyK, i think standalone astereisk cannot provide big number of sip users. In my own design, i only use asterisk as media relay server.`
`11:33.39`	`littleball`	`i assume that gizmo use https to do load distribution. Actually, why https needed? SIP proxy should work, right?`
`11:34.14`	`mitcheloc`	`RoyK: digg that link?`
`11:35.04`	`RoyK`	`digg_`
`11:35.06`	`RoyK`	`?`
`11:35.23`	`mitcheloc`	`www.digg.com -> submit link`
`11:35.44`	`mitcheloc`	`if it's true, it'll be a hit ;)`
`11:35.57`	`mitcheloc`	`some google ads and you'll make some quick cash for your astute eye =P`
`11:36.09`	`uwe`	`ummm ... anyone using asterisk on debian from debian repository`
`11:36.37`	`tzafrir`	`me?`
`11:36.57`	`coppice`	`tzafrir: if iLBC cost money, do you think anyone would use it?`
`11:37.56`	`mitcheloc`	`if it's better then g729 probably`
`11:38.15`	`coppice`	`in what way is it better than G.729?`
`11:38.20`	`uwe`	`did you get the cdr_asterisk module`
`11:38.22`	`mitcheloc`	`"if"`
`11:38.43`	`tzafrir`	`coppice, I'm not sure I follow you. The iLBC version skype uses does cost them money`
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`11:39.18`	`tzafrir`	`As for quality, I can't really tell`
`11:39.23`	`coppice`	`that's why skype, gizmo and others using it is strange. i think free is too expensive for it`
`11:39.28`	`uwe`	`err cdr_mysql`
`11:41.18`	`coppice`	`those packet loss tolerance claims by GIPS are totally bogus`
`11:47.41`	`littleball`	`coppice, considering most of users are behind firewall, why skype claim it is peer-to-peer?`
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`11:49.07`	`coppice`	`i don't know much about how skype works, but you always claim you best rather than your worst features, so anyone would claim their system is peer-to-peer.`
`11:49.17`	`benjamin7062`	`They may license where the patent holder gets a 'cut' of sales... and/or royalties on sales vs... per download ... or some yearly license that is trivial / revenue`
`11:49.38`	`coppice`	`we have pier-to-pier now. our ferries have Wi-Fi :-)`
`11:50.18`	`benjamin7062`	`bittorrent is peer to peer but dependent on a tracker... as an example of something else that works similar`
`11:50.26`	`benjamin7062`	`yet completely different.`
`11:50.28`	`benjamin7062`	`=)`
`11:51.33`	`iDunno`	`skype is peer-to-peer, and any peer can end up being a routing node, so if you're using skype in a decent networked area, what ever you do, bandwidth limit the hell out of the skype ports or they will use all your bandwidth.`
`11:51.49`	`littleball`	`if both users are behind symetric firewall, peer-to-peer is total impossible.`
`11:53.27`	`littleball`	`iDunno, peer-to-peer is not difficult. the problem is how to work around the firewall issue. I think most of my friends using skype are behind firewall with private ip.`
`11:53.34`	`benjamin7062`	`little -- that's not necessarily true... if you buzz out 15 tcp ports... technically, you can then become a hub via tcp. UDP wouldn't work so hot but I don't think the peer-to-peer of skype is the voice traffic... I think it's the control channel and distributed IM portion`
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`11:54.38`	`littleball`	`peer-to-peer for signal is no much benifit. signal/im text is small traffic.`
`11:55.43`	`benjamin7062`	`perhaps relative to voice traffic... but millions of 'tiny' packets = a lot of bandwidth`
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`11:56.35`	`littleball`	`because i am designing my own sip service network to service my customers. finally, i think the only way is to do media relay.`
`11:56.50`	`littleball`	`due to there are so many different firewall there.`
`11:57.05`	`benjamin7062`	`Either way, another theory might be that they pass traffic via several tcp sockets rather than UDP and use a high bandwidth user as a hub...`
`11:57.25`	`benjamin7062`	`which does much of what you just said... only it's distributed amongst clients.`
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`12:01.51`	`littleball`	`i am wondering what is their business model like gizmo.`
`12:03.48`	`mitcheloc`	`gizmo charges for outgoing minutes`
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`12:04.20`	`jonathh1`	`hello, i am back and playing with asterisk et al after a period of seperation. I have had to reinstall everything and my budgettone-101 is playing up. It seems to just crash. is there some provison in the asterisk conf i need? as it doesn't do it when asterisk running...`
`12:04.28`	`benjamin7062`	`they charge you for connecting to the PSTN`
`12:04.47`	`littleball`	`but it is so cheap. how to earn money :-)`
`12:05.09`	`mitcheloc`	`i'm sure we are all wondering that ;)`
`12:05.31`	`tzafrir`	`littleball, basically like many voip providers`
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`12:07.18`	`littleball`	`myself is voip provider :-) i also want to provide sip servcice to my customers. Ok. maybe your guys can give me suggestion about my question: If user A open one account and put money in my system, is it better to allow the users to set a few sip accounts(because maybe they have a few hardware sip phones) or just one?`
`12:07.29`	`benjamin7062`	`At whole sale rates of long distance...multiple major city hubs ... and efficient internal PSTN routing... they pay 'very very' little for each min. of a call... Their expense is infrastructure overhead... the telco part of it is trivial... relatively speaking`
`12:08.02`	`littleball`	`yes, it is true. benjamin7062`
`12:08.15`	`benjamin7062`	`little -- if you are charging by the min and not providing DID... then they should have as many as they want`
`12:08.31`	`littleball`	`currently, i tried a few sip providers, they only allow you have one sip phone connected to their system`
`12:08.34`	`benjamin7062`	`well, that's of course, my opinion`
`12:09.40`	`benjamin7062`	`I'm sure that's to manage abuse using something like soft phones... but even still... I wonder how 'abused' you'd have to be before it hurt`
`12:09.45`	`littleball`	`benjamin7062, i also think so. But currently, most sip providers doesn't support this feature. you can only use your account id and password to configure your sip phones`
`12:10.46`	`littleball`	`if i am a user, i open an account, and i will configure a few phones for my family member....`
`12:11.04`	`benjamin7062`	`sure.`
`12:11.14`	`benjamin7062`	`Put a cap`
`12:11.20`	`benjamin7062`	`something like 10 phones`
`12:11.22`	`benjamin7062`	`or lines`
`12:11.27`	`benjamin7062`	`make 'em pay for me`
`12:11.28`	`benjamin7062`	`more`
`12:11.43`	`benjamin7062`	`That would cover most 'practical' users`
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`12:14.52`	`littleball`	`benjamin7062, sorry. cannot understand your broken english :-)`
`12:15.30`	`benjamin7062`	`I would put a cap at say 10 phones which would cover most practical users`
`12:15.56`	`littleball`	`yes, i can set a maximum limitation.`
`12:16.08`	`SplasPood`	`hrm... Trying to help a client get his CommunigatePro server talking to our asterisk 1.2 server... I keep getting these warnings on console, any thoughts:`
`12:16.09`	`SplasPood`	`Jun 25 08:03:42 WARNING[9799]: chan_sip.c:6856 check_via: Don't know how to respond via 'SIP/2.0/TCP'`
`12:16.23`	`littleball`	`TCP`
`12:16.26`	`SplasPood`	`yes`
`12:16.30`	`SplasPood`	`Whats interesting is`
`12:16.33`	`SplasPood`	`the client had this working`
`12:16.38`	`SplasPood`	`and then all of a sudden it stopped`
`12:16.42`	`littleball`	`do you think asterisk support TCP voice?`
`12:17.00`	`SplasPood`	`littleball: No, based upon bugs.digium.com I know it does not..`
`12:17.44`	`SplasPood`	`I guess what I'm ideally looking for is someone who has experience with CommunigatePro, but those seems to be few and far between`
`12:19.14`	`littleball`	`benjamin7062, thanks for discussion. i will enable this multiple sip accounts feature in my system. (one main account - mainly for payment can have a few SIP accounts)`
`12:21.31`	`benjamin7062`	`Sure... Good luck Little... Wish you the best!`
`12:23.11`	`littleball`	`benjamin7062, thanks. you can visit my website www.mobmeee.com. i will add sip service and sip phones on the website after a few days.`
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`12:25.28`	`SplasPood`	`Strangely this client's setup works perfectly /w VP connect... So I'm trying to figure out why`
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`12:52.53`	`rob0`	`Why bless their little Digium hearts! Zaptel's Makefile runs mknod(8) for me!`
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`12:57.44`	`dangerarea`	`afternoon all`
`12:58.32`	`nexstar`	`its 5:58am`
`12:59.00`	`dangerarea`	`then you're a fool for being awake at a hidious time :)`
`12:59.29`	`dangerarea`	`how can I get it so people who hotdesk can log in to their phones in asterisk by (such as our old system) dialing a number, dialing their extension, dialing a pin`
`12:59.59`	`dangerarea`	`i'd not want them to log on and off using physical accounts on the phones`
`13:00.17`	`benjamin7062`	`create an extension that captures a large dialing pattern... then configure the phones with that dialing pattern`
`13:00.18`	`dangerarea`	`(well i couln't care less but the powers that be want it to be like the old system)`
`13:02.06`	`benjamin7062`	`depending on your phone -- create a speeddial that dials a long phone number with some unique key for login at the beginning... like 4444`
`13:02.25`	`benjamin7062`	`then tack on the extension and agent id in that string...`
`13:02.50`	`benjamin7062`	`like exten => _4444XXXXXXXXXXXX`
`13:03.56`	`benjamin7062`	`then strip the variables when calling AgentCallbacklogin or whatever it's called`
`13:04.43`	`benjamin7062`	`but this would require a login/logoff button unless you got 'really' creative and created global vars toggling each agents status`
`13:04.54`	`benjamin7062`	`login/logoff being seperate`
`13:05.17`	`dangerarea`	`agentcallbacklogin, eh?`
`13:05.24`	`dangerarea`	`goes off to investigate`
`13:05.26`	`dangerarea`	`ta!`
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`13:06.11`	`matsavhalev`	`newbie asking for some help with sip, i cant seem to make any internal calls, but 600 and 500 work... i am following the o'reilly book, anyone can help?`
`13:07.17`	`benjamin7062`	`agentcallbacklogin accepts the agent ID and extension`
`13:09.57`	`benjamin7062`	`AgentCallbackLogin(${EXTEN:4:8}\|\|${EXTEN:12}@agentexten)`
`13:10.23`	`benjamin7062`	`or something of that nature using the example I listed above`
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`13:10.38`	`benjamin7062`	`so, total line would be something 'like':`
`13:11.31`	`benjamin7062`	`exten => _4444XXXXXXXXXXXX,n,AgentCallbackLogin(${EXTEN:4:8}\|\|${EXTEN:12}@agentexten)`
`13:11.35`	`benjamin7062`	`I think that'd work`
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`13:11.41`	`tzafrir`	`matsavhalev, pastebin a trace from the CLI`
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`13:11.45`	`tzafrir`	`~pb`
`13:11.50`	`jbot`	`extra, extra, read all about it, pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca/, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com/, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/, or for images use http://imageshack.us/`
`13:12.09`	`dangerarea`	`benjamin7062: thanks loads for that, it looks just the job!`
`13:12.22`	`benjamin7062`	`assuming you have 4 digit agent id's.. password.. and extensions`
`13:13.00`	`benjamin7062`	`dangerarea, it doesn't cover logging off... that would be a seperate button... and I 'think' you leave the extension blank to log off`
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`13:14.02`	`extat1c`	`whats the smallest linux os version than asterisk can run on?`
`13:14.12`	`benjamin7062`	`smallest?`
`13:14.21`	`benjamin7062`	`as in size?`
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`13:14.28`	`extat1c`	`yes`
`13:14.30`	`benjamin7062`	`hd space rather`
`13:14.38`	`iDunno`	`well, there's a version for the wrt54g...`
`13:14.46`	`rob0`	`That is an odd question.`
`13:14.49`	`benjamin7062`	`I ran it on a 'base' install deb install only grabbing a few libs necessary for compile`
`13:14.49`	`iDunno`	`so pretty small ;)`
`13:14.50`	`extat1c`	`where can i get it`
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`13:16.10`	`benjamin7062`	`I suppose technically, once you have a solid kernel, solid compile, and all is running.. you could eat away 'most' of any linux version`
`13:17.42`	`extat1c`	`can i run it on damn small linux?`
`13:17.46`	`tzafrir`	`benjamin7062, now if you want a really "basic" install, take a separate build system (possibly a chroot in a different Debian. No need for a dedicated machine)`
`13:18.46`	`rob0`	`Anyone who would wish to run Asterisk on a minimal OS should already have a good understanding of said OS.`
`13:19.21`	`tzafrir`	`well, Asterisk is rumored to be run on gumstix, which means a "badly-mebedded" size of OS`
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`13:29.23`	`vivek`	`hello all`
`13:29.33`	`dangerarea`	`or lowest as in kernel?`
`13:29.40`	`coppice`	`Asterisk 1.0.x runs on uCLinux, which is a much tougher issue than gumstix.`
`13:29.47`	`vivek`	`how do i upgrade my spa 3000 firmware via tftp ?`
`13:30.09`	`vivek`	`i am on osx and i can't seem to use tftp to upload the firmware to sipura ...`
`13:31.20`	`RoyK`	`vivek: last i tried tftp on os x it worked as a dream`
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`13:31.50`	`benjamin7062`	`what do tftp logs say?`
`13:32.10`	`vivek`	`benjamin7062: it sort of blinks for a while and then just stops`
`13:32.23`	`benjamin7062`	`I mean on the server?`
`13:32.24`	`RoyK`	`os x as a server or client?`
`13:32.24`	`vivek`	`er i have not checked the logs yet`
`13:32.38`	`benjamin7062`	`I'd see if the two are talking... and if it's asking for the right file`
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`13:32.43`	`benjamin7062`	`see if the transfer is occuring`
`13:32.46`	`coppice`	`I should say a tweaked version of * 1.0.x runs on uCLinux`
`13:33.13`	`RoyK`	`is there a reason 1.2 shouldn't work with ucinux?`
`13:33.21`	`vivek`	`RoyK: i am trying to use osx as the server.`
`13:33.57`	`benjamin7062`	`extat1c, are you trying to build a small * box... ? if yes, I've had good success using IDE based compact flash drives`
`13:34.06`	`vivek`	`benjamin7062: ok let me check the logs`
`13:34.09`	`benjamin7062`	`perhaps a dif. route from some sort of hacked mini version`
`13:34.10`	`RoyK`	`vivek: turned off the firewall yet?`
`13:34.29`	`coppice`	`RoyK: I'm not sure of the reasons, but it turned out a lot harder. A modified 1.0.x is currently running on the Blackfin Stamp boards that run uCLinux`
`13:35.08`	`vivek`	`RoyK: no i did not ... maybe i should try without the firmware on my router also ...`
`13:37.17`	`benjamin7062`	`if the device and phone are on the same subnet... your firewall prob doesn't have anything to do with it`
`13:37.24`	`benjamin7062`	`err, guess he killed his router. =)`
`13:37.43`	`benjamin7062`	`device = tftp server`
`13:37.46`	`RoyK`	`coppice: ah. i thought about this libc replacement, not uCLinux. sorry...`
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`13:38.23`	`RoyK`	`benjamin7062: i meant the built-in firewall in os x`
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`13:38.54`	`RoyK`	`which is quite paranoid as default, but vivek prolly didn't underestand that, being rude instead`
`13:39.43`	`rob0`	`I have a TDM card with a single FXS module alongside an X101P clone for FXO. I loaded wctdm first, then wcfxo. Does that make the FXS channel 1 and FXO channel 2, or is that just controlled by zaptel.conf? Also, I can't see much difference in lspci(8); both cards are "Class 0780: e159:0001".`
`13:40.09`	`benjamin7062`	`RoyK, gotcha...`
`13:40.17`	`RoyK`	`~google "Class 0780: e159:0001"`
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`13:43.13`	`rob0`	`]Just seemed odd to me that they'd be the same.`
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`13:44.05`	`benjamin7062`	`~google "Cool"`
`13:49.15`	`RoyK`	`rob0: that should indicate two identical cards...`
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`13:51.46`	`RoyK`	`~lart himself`
`13:52.10`	`benjamin7062`	`~spit`
`13:52.19`	`benjamin7062`	`~fart`
`13:52.21`	`jbot`	`ACTION farts, releasing large quantities of methane and sulfur dioxide. "Evacuate the channel! GO! gag SAVE YOURSELVES cough MOVE choke MOVE!"`
`13:52.44`	`benjamin7062`	`~burp`
`13:52.46`	`jbot`	`ACTION burps loudly`
`13:53.04`	`benjamin7062`	`Well now... I feel more at home`
`13:54.00`	`benjamin7062`	`~help`
`14:00.03`	`RoyK`	`~fart benjamin7062`
`14:00.04`	`jbot`	`ACTION farts in benjamin7062's general direction`
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`14:04.20`	`rob0`	`Anyway, my ztcfg is happy with what I have, so I guess zaptel.conf is right.`
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`14:05.58`	`vivek`	`hello all`
`14:06.22`	`vivek`	`i have tried disabling the firewall but no effect ...`
`14:07.07`	`vivek`	`http://ip-of-sipura/upgrade?/tftp://ip-of-mac/3000-03-01-10-GW-d.bin is the command i used ...`
`14:07.46`	`vivek`	`my firmware is in the tftp root server as defined in /etc/.../tftp`
`14:08.06`	`vivek`	`i mean root folder`
`14:12.19`	`tzafrir`	`vivek, I belive that the beginning of your question is missin`
`14:12.45`	`vivek`	`er ok i am trying to upgrade the firmware of my sipura 3000.`
`14:13.39`	`vivek`	`i used the command shown above to upload the firmware. it sort of looks like its upgrading with the flashing led indicator. and nothing happens the firmware is still the old version`
`14:18.05`	`dangerarea`	`re-powered your phone and made sure the firmware in your mac's ftp isn't corrupted?`
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`14:20.17`	`vivek`	`yes i did that. i unzipped the bin again it did not show any corruption issues.`
`14:21.35`	`benjamin7062`	`stab the phone with a screw driver... see if that updates the firmware`
`14:22.48`	`vivek`	`right ;)`
`14:22.57`	`file`	`ha, we still didn't recover from lastnight's network... fun`
`14:23.17`	`vivek`	`that's the first thing i want to try after buying an spa3k`
`14:23.38`	`rob0`	`You mean the freenode h4x0ring?`
`14:24.10`	`file`	`naturally`
`14:29.04`	`file`	`what a nice active day... right`
`14:29.08`	`blitzrage`	`file: !!`
`14:29.25`	`file`	`blitzrage: eep! it's you!`
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`14:30.07`	`blitzrage`	`it is!!!`
`14:30.21`	`blitzrage`	`for some reason I got a box crashing when running safe_asterisk :)`
`14:30.25`	`file`	`wazzup?`
`14:30.27`	`file`	`cool`
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`14:30.37`	`blitzrage`	`was out touring London... then had an emergency at work :(`
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`14:31.12`	`blitzrage`	`what IAX softphone do people like for Linux?`
`14:31.22`	`mitcheloc`	`idefisk`
`14:31.33`	`blitzrage`	`oh yah`
`14:31.40`	`blitzrage`	`zoa's phone`
`14:32.00`	`vivek`	`when i call out a sip number (gizmo) from my spa 3000 using my gizmo account. I get user unknown. 411 works and i can use the tell me service ...`
`14:32.11`	`vivek`	`what could be wrong ?`
`14:32.59`	`blitzrage`	`sounds like authentication error`
`14:33.17`	`vivek`	`why does 411 work ?`
`14:33.35`	`file`	`oh noes! bank called!`
`14:33.50`	`blitzrage`	`probably an open number that doesn't require auth`
`14:34.11`	`blitzrage`	`use ethereal and look at the sip trace`
`14:35.35`	`hermie`	`ugh... does anybody here do call-from-china phone cards?`
`14:38.22`	`file`	`ugh my mother is going to be so nosy about this`
`14:39.20`	`blitzrage`	`file: ugh!`
`14:39.25`	`blitzrage`	`file: I already don't like her...`
`14:39.54`	`file`	`"why did you get a call? what did they want?"`
`14:40.14`	`blitzrage`	`jeebuz.... shakes_head`
`14:41.31`	`dangerarea`	`file: either trying to sell you something or a fraud check`
`14:41.47`	`dangerarea`	`file: i used to have to explain myself a lot too ;)`
`14:42.18`	`file`	`I'm trying to get a live person but DTMF isn't being recognized`
`14:42.24`	`file`	`(note: this is on my home line)`
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`14:44.05`	`dangerarea`	`file: do you have a dialtone, has the bank told your telco to cut you off?`
`14:44.32`	`file`	`my mother is hanging outside my door on purpose just to hear I think`
`14:44.56`	`dangerarea`	`you could have a lot of fun there if you wanted to wind her up`
`14:45.05`	`file`	`uh, it's not hard`
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`14:45.21`	`dangerarea`	`"what do you mean if i don't pay my house is going to be reposessed?"`
`14:45.31`	`file`	`LOL`
`14:45.32`	`file`	`she just came in`
`14:45.36`	`file`	`"what did they want?"`
`14:45.43`	`file`	`me: "I knew you would do this."`
`14:45.49`	`file`	`her: "well, I just wanted to see..."`
`14:46.45`	`dangerarea`	`heh`
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`14:50.49`	`rob0`	`blitzrage: kiax worked well for me (as well as you can expect from a softphone. :) )`
`14:53.44`	`Zhad`	`I've got some FXO cards and an FXS card on a TDM400 card, if I plug a PDQ into the FXS port and tell asterisk to switch to one of the FXO group, then the PDQ drops line shortly after going through modem training.`
`14:53.59`	`Zhad`	`Does anyone know which bits of zapata are worth tweaking?`
`14:54.07`	`Zhad`	`or zaptel`
`14:55.41`	`Zhad`	`ah`
`14:55.52`	`Zhad`	`echocancelwhenbridged is set.`
`14:56.16`	`Zhad`	`feggin default config files :-)`
`14:56.40`	`tzafrir`	`PDQ=?`
`14:57.04`	`vivek`	`.`
`14:57.47`	`rob0`	`I think my zaptel.conf is fine`
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`14:58.15`	`Zhad`	`tzafrir> bank card terminal`
`14:58.23`	`Zhad`	`genzaptelconf ?`
`14:58.33`	`Zhad`	`unsetting echo cancellation has fixed it.`
`14:59.48`	`tzafrir`	`http://svn.digium.com/svn/zaptel/trunk/xpp/utils/genzaptelconf`
`15:00.00`	`tzafrir`	`(if you were interested)`
`15:00.30`	`tzafrir`	`we had a similar issue with our driver that was fixed recently`
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`15:00.43`	`rob0`	`aha, it might help, thx`
`15:01.55`	`mitcheloc`	`why not c#? =P`
`15:01.55`	`Zeeek`	`anyone have experience with cyberfraud?`
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`15:02.31`	`tzafrir`	`mitcheloc, google for "scriptometer"`
`15:02.45`	`b00gz1`	`Is this true? http://www.voipuser.org/forum_topic_5786.html ?????`
`15:02.53`	`tzafrir`	`java and c# may be nice, but not for simple hacks`
`15:03.35`	`Zeeek`	`b00gz1 I think it has to do with a name change, that's all`
`15:03.46`	`mitcheloc`	`maybe one day linux will have a monad command line ;)`
`15:04.47`	`b00gz1`	`Zeeek: so they changed the name?`
`15:05.21`	`tzafrir`	`mitcheloc, those idea are not so new. There were one or two "perl shells". But none really cought up.`
`15:05.25`	`Zeeek`	`I think it isn't right to use asterisk as part of your product name, they were asked to stop. But I'm guessing, I don't know or care`
`15:05.43`	`tzafrir`	`Ditto for scheme and python`
`15:06.07`	`mitcheloc`	`myspace wasn't a new idea either, but look how it caught on, it just has to be done right...`
`15:06.11`	`b00gz1`	`Oh ok :)`
`15:06.24`	`blitzrage`	`Zeeek: !!!`
`15:06.33`	`Zeeek`	`hey blitz, you disappeared!`
`15:06.45`	`blitzrage`	`Zeeek: yah -- I have to go to London to get ready for the next part of the conference`
`15:06.51`	`rob0`	`COOL! So with the TDM (only one module) loaded first, it makes my X101P channel 5!`
`15:06.52`	`blitzrage`	`s/have/had`
`15:06.57`	`file`	`blitzrage: back to work!`
`15:07.06`	`blitzrage`	`I can't get idefisk to work :(`
`15:07.08`	`Zeeek`	`I was stuck having to have lunch with Jared :)`
`15:07.15`	`blitzrage`	`Zeeek: yah... sorry to hear that ;(`
`15:07.18`	`file`	`blitzrage: excuses excuses`
`15:07.21`	`tzafrir`	`mitcheloc, it will be popular enough if it will be a built-in scripting interface and usable enough`
`15:07.34`	`Zeeek`	`blitzrage nice to mett you though... again`
`15:07.38`	`tzafrir`	`heck, a whole generation of sysadmins wrote csh scripts`
`15:07.40`	`rob0`	`Kinda like a PC partition table :)`
`15:07.50`	`blitzrage`	`Zeeek: yah for sure! sorry I had to run off -- was hoping you were going to make it to London as well`
`15:08.01`	`tzafrir`	`That is not to say that it is such a grand idea`
`15:08.02`	`Zeeek`	`no one offered to pay my way`
`15:08.12`	`Zeeek`	`I like tcsh`
`15:08.17`	`blitzrage`	`./idefisk: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libiaxclient.so: cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied`
`15:08.50`	`file`	`blitzrage: lame`
`15:08.51`	`tzafrir`	`Zeeek, a nice shell, but not that good for scripts. And was even worse`
`15:09.02`	`blitzrage`	`file: aye`
`15:09.13`	`Zeeek`	`I like php for scripts`
`15:09.19`	`blitzrage`	`file: should be working... but alas, it is not`
`15:09.22`	`blitzrage`	`Zeeek: me too`
`15:09.34`	`tzafrir`	`blitzrage, ls -l /usr/lib/libiaxclient.so`
`15:10.08`	`blitzrage`	`-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 330344 Jun 25 15:49 /usr/lib/libiaxclient.so`
`15:10.18`	`blitzrage`	`and I did run ldconfig`
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`15:10.51`	`blitzrage`	`uh oh -- England just about got scored on`
`15:11.13`	`Zeeek`	`~seen kram`
`15:11.28`	`jbot`	`kram <n=mark@pdpc/sponsor/digium/kram> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 41d 20h 57m 12s ago, saying: 'not sure actually'.`
`15:11.28`	`blitzrage`	`tzafrir: ideas? :)`
`15:12.19`	`tzafrir`	`a google search indicates that this is a selinux message`
`15:13.10`	`file`	`shake! and bake.`
`15:13.16`	`blitzrage`	`hrmmmm... odd... because selinux shouldn't be on...`
`15:13.35`	`blitzrage`	`maybe it is and I've just forgotten :)`
`15:15.09`	`blitzrage`	`tzafrir: thanks`
`15:15.23`	`file`	`blitzrage: no soup for you`
`15:15.36`	`blitzrage`	`gasp`
`15:15.41`	`blitzrage`	`I'm not really a soup person anyways`
`15:15.55`	`file`	`more of a muffin person?`
`15:16.01`	`blitzrage`	`not really`
`15:16.12`	`blitzrage`	`more of a rye and ginger person :)`
`15:17.16`	`Zeeek`	`so it finally happened, I finally got a bill for pr0n I didn't order`
`15:17.39`	`rob0`	`So, IIUC, I could use the genzaptelconf's zapata-channels.conf in the default zapata.conf with an "include=zapata-channels.conf"?`
`15:17.55`	`Zeeek`	`I knew the sympathy would pour in from this channel :)`
`15:19.41`	`file`	`Zeeek: we try`
`15:22.03`	`Zeeek`	`apparently the payment processor, CCBILL is well known for being easy to hack`
`15:25.02`	`tzafrir`	`rob0, you're mixing dialplan-specific syntax with generic asterisk config file syntax`
`15:25.19`	`tzafrir`	`you can use '#include zapata-channels.conf'`
`15:25.24`	`tzafrir`	`in your zapata.conf`
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`15:25.45`	`tzafrir`	`note that the order in zapata.conf is whole too meaningful`
`15:26.02`	`b00gz1`	`Hey guys, does asterisk support flash memory without any extra config? I know when I setup other distros for firewalls it was a whole seperate image I had to install because of the read writes.`
`15:26.35`	`tzafrir`	`asterisk does not support flash. This is the job of the underlying OS`
`15:27.05`	`b00gz1`	`ok :) Thanks`
`15:27.31`	`tzafrir`	`If you want to set up a complete system on a flash, Asterisk will probably be the least of your concenrs, if you're a bit careful`
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`15:29.52`	`kodomo`	`hi folks`
`15:30.55`	`kodomo`	`(hopefully) short question: how to I set the calltype for outgoing calls in asterisk? It seems that asterisk is always requesting transfer capability SPEECH, whatever I do...`
`15:31.00`	`rob0`	`Dialtone Is Good :)`
`15:31.03`	`kodomo`	`(ISDN)`
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`15:35.13`	`tzafrir`	`kodomo, what ISDN channel do you use? misdn? capi? zapbri? visdn?`
`15:35.27`	`kodomo`	`zapbri`
`15:35.31`	`tzafrir`	`(and no: I don't know how to answer your question)`
`15:36.13`	`kodomo`	`Asterisk 1.2.7.1-BRIstuffed-0.3.0-PRE-1p`
`15:37.14`	`kodomo`	`Actually I'd like to dial out and connect the call to a pppd`
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`15:57.30`	`tzafrir`	`kodomo, zapras?`
`15:57.59`	`kodomo`	`zapras?`
`15:58.03`	`tzafrir`	`not sure it would help you directly, but maybe it would be a useful search keyword`
`15:58.58`	`tzafrir`	`from 'show application ZapRAS': Executes Zaptel ISDN RAS application`
`16:00.18`	`tzafrir`	`A call file can also come in handy to initiate the call`
`16:02.18`	`kodomo`	`reading sounds interesting, if it works... was thinking about pppd or pipe (which I found a reference on once, but which I seem to be unable to find again) - but I'll have a look into ZapRAS as well - maybe it does set the call type automatically - thx :)`
`16:03.16`	`coppice`	`now why does someone take an old version of one of my libraries, spend hours cleaning up lots of little rough edges, then send me the result which is way behind the current version. This has happened more than once recently. weird. :-)`
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`16:13.30`	`kodomo`	`tzafrir: hm - won't solve my problem, though - it does not provide dialout functionality, so I'll have to keep using dial, which always requests SPEECH capabilities... :-/`
`16:14.07`	`file`	`change the transfercapability`
`16:14.50`	`file`	`let me see if it's possible :D`
`16:16.28`	`file`	`kodomo: what do you need it to be?`
`16:18.22`	`kodomo`	`file: DIGITAL`
`16:18.47`	`kodomo`	`but I do know settransfercapability - it just doesn't work the way I need it to :-/`
`16:19.48`	`kodomo`	`what I want to do is the following: initiating an automated outbound data call to a cell phone and connect this call to an extension spawning a pppd`
`16:20.43`	`file`	`okay, so a call file and zapras`
`16:21.11`	`kodomo`	`I can SetTransferCapability right before the Pipe() line... actually setting a state (debug output) - but the dial application requests SPEECH nevertheless...`
`16:21.43`	`file`	`pastebin the debug`
`16:23.49`	`aaugustj`	`i'm trying to get some GXP-2000's doing intercom with the instructions at: http://www.austechpartnerships.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=792&sid=753e00c83784558925bf70dfb6fe9067`
`16:24.18`	`aaugustj`	`anyone know if this is accurate - all i get when i follow the steps is phones that auto-answer any call they get...`
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`16:27.10`	`kodomo`	`file: don't be surprised at the strange order in the call file - I was hoping that asterisk would first contact the extension and then use the set TRANSFERCAPABILITY for the outgoing Dial-Command, before bridging the two`
`16:27.24`	`kodomo`	`...still waiting for pastebin to react...`
`16:29.12`	`tzafrir`	`anybody tried using espeak instead of festival? http://espeak.sourceforge.net/`
`16:29.23`	`kodomo`	`http://pastebin.com/730332`
`16:29.28`	`kodomo`	`file: http://pastebin.com/730332`
`16:31.59`	`file`	`'tis not loading`
`16:32.52`	`kodomo`	`was _very_ slow for me, too... : http://graphics.cs.uni-sb.de/~grsch/ast_verbose.txt`
`16:33.29`	`kodomo`	`got another idea: I'll try to create an extension for the dial command as well... trying`
`16:34.31`	`file`	`interesting`
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`16:39.13`	`kodomo`	`ha! that did the trick for requesting the right transfer capability... still does not work, but one tiny step further ;P`
`16:39.22`	`kodomo`	`now I've created a second extension (4007, executing SetTransferCapability and Dial) and connected the two extensions... this time, I got 'requesting transfer capabilities: DIGITAL' :)`
`16:39.42`	`kodomo`	`unfortunately, something seems to cancel the call too early before I have the chance to answer it`
`16:39.45`	`kodomo`	`gotta see...`
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`16:42.43`	`Zeeek`	`is there a cancellation fine when you get rid of echo?`
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`16:47.07`	`kodomo`	`hm - guess asterisk doesn't like talking to itself via IAX2 or SIP :-/`
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`16:51.58`	`file`	`do I dare ask why you're looping it back?`
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`16:54.39`	`kodomo`	`file: looping it back?`
`16:54.52`	`file`	`the "talking to itself" part`
`16:55.44`	`kodomo`	`unfortunately I cannot state an extension in the 'Channel' part - so I have to use IAX2/guest@... instead...`
`16:55.54`	`file`	`use Local`
`16:55.57`	`file`	`Local/extension@context`
`16:56.06`	`kodomo`	`ah... thx trying`
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`16:58.48`	`kodomo`	`working :) I've got my data call connected... there's still the pppd missing on the receiver side, so I'm unsure if I'll be able to communicate over the channel, but at least I've got a connection to work with :)`
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`16:59.02`	`Arne`	`Hi`
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`17:09.02`	`Greek-Boy`	`Can anyone help me with Cisco 7912G firmware upgrade procedure? the settings in gkdefault.cfg are recognized and applied when the phone reboots but the phone profile config gk[mac].cfg is not applied :(`
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`17:16.44`	`RoyK`	`hi`
`17:18.02`	`Greek-Boy`	`hi`
`17:18.49`	`RoyK`	`http://karlsbakk.net/fun/crazy_japanese_sign.jpg`
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`17:26.37`	`mitcheloc`	`RoyK: what do you plan on doing with your notes about gizmo?`
`17:26.40`	`mitcheloc`	`Brijn: hello!`
`17:26.58`	`RoyK`	`mitcheloc: what do you mean, do with them?`
`17:27.24`	`mitcheloc`	`RoyK: if gizmo is sending the data out, and it's a privacy issue, that's pretty bad don't you think?`
`17:27.33`	`RoyK`	`it is indeed`
`17:28.10`	`mitcheloc`	`i'm just saying, i would post the info a couple of places and see how it pans out, maybe you came across something maybe not`
`17:28.11`	`RoyK`	`i need to setup a man-in-the-middle attack to retrieve that data, unless they use fixed certificates, that is`
`17:28.19`	`RoyK`	`please do`
`17:29.17`	`mitcheloc`	`RoyK: what was the link again?`
`17:29.31`	`RoyK`	`http://karlsbakk.net/asterisk/gizmo-project.php`
`17:30.02`	`mitcheloc`	`do you have good bandwith ;)`
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`17:31.07`	`RoyK`	`yes`
`17:31.10`	`sshadow`	`mitcheloc: please see this link too http://forum.gizmoproject.com/viewtopic.php?t=243`
`17:31.12`	`RoyK`	`100mbps iirc`
`17:32.25`	`Brijn`	`hello all`
`17:33.27`	`mitcheloc`	`hello back`
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`17:35.15`	`Brijn`	`Interesting finding about Gizmo, they didn't provide a reply?`
`17:36.04`	`RoyK`	`Brijn: i didn't bother to email them. they'll know after all`
`17:36.20`	`mitcheloc`	`sshadow: is that post yours? i'm sure you can set up your sip alias without using gizmo?`
`17:37.13`	`sshadow`	`mitcheloc: sorry i gave the wrong url, clipped the last 8 here's the right on http://forum.gizmoproject.com/viewtopic.php?t=2438`
`17:39.38`	`Brijn`	`Huhh, is that micheloc of micheloc @ SNAP?`
`17:39.49`	`mitcheloc`	`yeeeeeep heh ;)`
`17:40.05`	`mitcheloc`	`i hide out in here sometimes.... (or really most of the time)`
`17:40.23`	`RoyK`	`i need to setup a man-in-the-middle attack to retrieve that data, unless they use fixed certificates, that is. does anyone know how to do that? i know the theory, but never done it in real life...`
`17:40.28`	`Brijn`	`Haha, I was had my two windows open.. Was just looking at a post in your forums you replied to and noticed the same name`
`17:40.32`	`Brijn`	`Cool piece of SW!`
`17:40.42`	`mitcheloc`	`thanks! =)`
`17:40.58`	`RoyK`	`Brijn: what sw?`
`17:41.03`	`Brijn`	`Snap dialer`
`17:41.18`	`Brijn`	`I've tried all of themm but SNAP is the best out there`
`17:42.01`	`mitcheloc`	`=P`
`17:42.41`	`Brijn`	`mitcheloc: do you do pop-ups on incoming calls? I thought it would, but I now changed my * config so that the icoming callerid(num) no longer has an additional 9 see http://www.snapanumber.com/Forums/tabid/58/forumid/1/threadid/52/scope/posts/Default.aspx)`
`17:43.22`	`Brijn`	`mitcheloc: See that you get a link on AStetrisk @ Home (always forget the new name) page or something`
`17:44.05`	`mitcheloc`	`they already have their hud... i didn't bug them because i figured it would be a conflict of interest for them (not sure)`
`17:44.45`	`Brijn`	`But HUD does something different?`
`17:44.51`	`mitcheloc`	`Brijn: yes it should be doing pop-ups on incoming calls, just check to make sure the channel is the same from the CLI that is ringing (and that it's case sensitive)`
`17:45.22`	`mitcheloc`	`Brijn: i suppose, i see it as a side-step, they both do things differently if that makes sense`
`17:47.50`	`Brijn`	`mitcheloc: Hmm.. Settings seems to be OK SIP/300 in SNAP and -- Executing Dial("SIP/004063C0FA1F-d2de", "SIP/300\|30\|wWtT") in new stack`
`17:48.59`	`mitcheloc`	`hmmm, snap might be trying to look for this: "SIP/300\|30\|wWtT" -- can you try setting the channel to "SIP/004063C0FA1F" to test temporarily?`
`17:49.14`	`Brijn`	`Is there a way to see if SNAP starts a lookup but fails? Or should it always show a popup (even if no matching contacts is found).`
`17:49.27`	`mitcheloc`	`Brijn: on the forum post you linked me to, i don't see your reply?`
`17:49.51`	`mitcheloc`	`it will always show a pop-up, if it doesn't find the number it's just the default cid-name that shows`
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`17:51.44`	`Brijn`	`mitcheloc: you replied to my Q about INCOMING rules`
`17:52.12`	`Brijn`	`But I fixed it on * side now.. But still doesn't show the inc calls.. Outgoing works OK`
`17:52.35`	`mitcheloc`	`hmm, okay does setting the channel to SIP/004063C0FA1F fix it?`
`17:52.49`	`Brijn`	`mitcheloc: Tried that, no change`
`17:53.21`	`mitcheloc`	`is the actual phone -> SIP/004063C0FA1F <- online or offline?`
`17:54.00`	`Brijn`	`Online, it's sitting right in fron of me and rings if I call it :-)`
`17:55.15`	`mitcheloc`	`hmm.. my next thouth is, is snap connected? (green icon in systray menu)?`
`17:55.34`	`Brijn`	`Yep, outbound dial works`
`17:56.05`	`mitcheloc`	`hmm... well outbound would work even if snap doesn't maintain a persistent connection`
`17:56.11`	`mitcheloc`	`next step is to get a debug log ;)`
`17:56.27`	`Brijn`	`Ahh, there is one, where do I find it/enable it`
`17:57.37`	`mitcheloc`	`Brijn: i just added it ;), it's not great but it should help, check your pm for directions`
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`17:58.32`	`rue_mohr`	`hello, I'm trying to remmeber the name of two cards`
`17:58.47`	`rue_mohr`	`one is an incomming analog line card`
`17:59.00`	`RoyK`	`fxo`
`17:59.02`	`rue_mohr`	`the other has an incomming and a connection for a phone`
`17:59.03`	`RoyK`	`or fxs`
`17:59.04`	`mitcheloc`	`Brijn: btw, i was takin today/yesterday off :) so i'm about to head to the beach as soon as my friend gets here`
`17:59.09`	`rue_mohr`	`?`
`17:59.15`	`RoyK`	`~fxs`
`17:59.17`	`jbot`	`well, fxs is foreign exchange system - or the type of port you need to connect a analog device (phone, fax machine) to a pbx`
`17:59.19`	`RoyK`	`~fxo`
`17:59.20`	`jbot`	`foreign exchange office - type of port you need to connect a POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) line from your telco to a pbx http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=fxsvfxo`
`17:59.32`	`rue_mohr`	`I thought the first was a (something) 100 and the other was a (someting)3000`
`17:59.47`	`RoyK`	`x100p is an fxo card`
`17:59.52`	`rue_mohr`	`ahhhh`
`17:59.56`	`rue_mohr`	`yes, thats is`
`18:00.17`	`rue_mohr`	`:/ I'v moved everything to my new room but my blank paper`
`18:02.17`	`rue_mohr`	`ok.. so 1 x100p and 2 pap adapters to get where I want...`
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`18:04.59`	`rue_mohr`	`wow, the ebay prices for them are quite diverse`
`18:05.39`	`rue_mohr`	`so anyone know a batter fxs method for me than using pap2 s?`
`18:06.09`	`rue_mohr`	`I need 3 ports`
`18:06.13`	`rue_mohr`	`more preferred`
`18:08.35`	`RoyK`	`rue_mohr: http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/tdm400p.php`
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`18:09.09`	`Flauto`	`good afternoon people`
`18:09.32`	`RoyK`	`good evening`
`18:11.05`	`Flauto`	`hehe`
`18:14.34`	`Brijn`	`Anyone played here with applicationmap in features.conf?`
`18:16.54`	`dangerarea`	`anyone reccomend a completely software sip client?`
`18:17.24`	`mitcheloc`	`maybe i should add sip to snap ;)`
`18:17.44`	`rajiv`	`anyone running wanpipe on gentoo ?`
`18:20.06`	`rue_mohr`	`RoyK: oww, you know, the pap2s are cheaper...`
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`18:20.41`	`rue_mohr`	`RoyK: $80cad for 2 ports`
`18:20.51`	`RoyK`	`rue_mohr: i don't even know what a pap2s _is_`
`18:21.10`	`rue_mohr`	`its like a the ethernet widget they give you with, day, vonage`
`18:21.34`	`rue_mohr`	`let me examplify`
`18:22.17`	`Nugget`	`I dunno if my examplitude is sufficient for your examplification.`
`18:22.52`	`RoyK`	`~lart Nugget`
`18:23.06`	`rue_mohr`	`http://cgi.ebay.com/LinkSys-PAP2-VOIP-Phone-Adapter-for-Vonage-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ9744912969QQihZ008QQcategoryZ99269QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem`
`18:24.25`	`rue_mohr`	`the only annoyance is that it hangs off an ethernet wire, witch, for ~$100 savings, I can live with`
`18:26.48`	`mitcheloc`	`does anyone know if two letter *.ag domains sell well?`
`18:27.11`	`drray`	`I'd buy f.ag for a dollar`
`18:27.26`	`mitcheloc`	`two letter =P`
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`18:27.50`	`mitcheloc`	`i've got one i haven't payed for in about 7 years, and somehow it's slipped by and is still registerd to me =)`
`18:28.16`	`drray`	`what are the two letters? does it spell a word?`
`18:28.26`	`mitcheloc`	`i'm not sayin heh`
`18:28.49`	`drray`	`put it on ebay`
`18:28.58`	`drray`	`I sold bone.com a few years ago`
`18:29.02`	`mitcheloc`	`it's a two letter word i suppose, like an expression`
`18:29.14`	`mitcheloc`	`like "to.ag"`
`18:29.52`	`drray`	`if it is something that can be marketted, I'd say it is valuable`
`18:29.52`	`mitcheloc`	`bone.com is a spamish site now =/, hopefully they apid well?`
`18:30.06`	`drray`	`$5000 us`
`18:30.20`	`rue_mohr`	`interesting that digium dosn't list the x100p ?`
`18:30.32`	`mitcheloc`	`i wonder if i should fess up to the registrar that i haven't paid for it, and catch up before i try to sell it...`
`18:30.46`	`drray`	`get an offer first`
`18:31.04`	`drray`	`ebay will give you an idea of value`
`18:31.19`	`hermie`	`rue_mohr they don't sell it anymore`
`18:31.23`	`mitcheloc`	`with a domain appraisal or an auction?`
`18:31.49`	`drray`	`I'd do just an auction`
`18:31.55`	`drray`	`domain appraisals are bullshit`
`18:32.29`	`rue_mohr`	`!! so if I want one I'd better buy it off ebay quick?`
`18:32.41`	`carmen`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:32.42`	`hermie`	`rue_mohr the one's on ebay aren't digium`
`18:32.48`	`rue_mohr`	`ohhh`
`18:32.52`	`drray`	`some are`
`18:33.00`	`hermie`	`drray ok, some are`
`18:33.09`	`drray`	`I have a true x100p that I'll be selling on ebay`
`18:33.12`	`rue_mohr`	`I wonder what the ????3000 I heard of was from, its suppose to have a fxo and fxs port on it`
`18:33.34`	`rue_mohr`	`will any of the x100p cards work on asterisk?`
`18:33.38`	`hermie`	`most of those on ebay are just modems with the same chipset, which will usually work fne`
`18:33.45`	`rue_mohr`	`ok`
`18:33.50`	`hermie`	`YMMV`
`18:34.01`	`rue_mohr`	`? dont know that one`
`18:34.05`	`drray`	`the x100p from digium does not work well in all situations`
`18:34.14`	`drray`	`it's a great starter device`
`18:34.17`	`drray`	`for being cheap`
`18:34.22`	`drray`	`and getting a feel for asterisk`
`18:34.23`	`rue_mohr`	`well, let me tell you what I'm up to`
`18:34.35`	`hermie`	`~ymmv`
`18:34.36`	`jbot`	`well, ymmv is Your Mileage May Vary`
`18:34.37`	`rue_mohr`	`just got a house that we have 3 people staying in, one incomming analog line`
`18:35.00`	`rue_mohr`	`want to have a ivr to ask who incomming callers want, and direct appropriotly`
`18:35.01`	`RoyK`	`~rtfs`
`18:35.02`	`jbot`	`well, rtfs is probably read the f*cking source...`
`18:35.21`	`RoyK`	`jbot: no, rtfs is read the fucking source!`
`18:35.22`	`jbot`	`RoyK: please, watch your language.`
`18:35.23`	`drray`	`for example, I thought I would lend a friend my x100p for a house line and pbx (like what you are looking at) and the phone company did not give them a line that would work with the x100p`
`18:35.24`	`rue_mohr`	`which I take it should be all fine and straight forward`
`18:35.48`	`RoyK`	`i can't beleive this. americans! USAnians! They don't dare to swear?`
`18:35.58`	`rue_mohr`	`ah, incompatible start/stops?`
`18:36.00`	`mitcheloc`	`anyone think making a pbx for hotels would be a good idea? with billing built in?`
`18:36.04`	`drray`	`only assholes use profanity`
`18:36.19`	`drray`	`mitcheloc, that's what I do at work :)`
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`18:36.45`	`mitcheloc`	`whats the company website? =)`
`18:36.47`	`drray`	`you have to use rhino banks or you have to get them to buy all new analog phones`
`18:37.01`	`drray`	`you want a 100% turnkey environment`
`18:37.16`	`drray`	`mitcheloc - I work for a hotel doing it inhouse`
`18:37.28`	`mitcheloc`	`yea but then you have to build that stuff into the tv-checkout system as well`
`18:37.31`	`rue_mohr`	`I can get a channelbank cheap, but the T1 card is still worth more than me doing an x100p/pap2 setup`
`18:37.33`	`drray`	`you have to intergrate asterisk with existing hotel billing software`
`18:38.05`	`drray`	`a t1 card and a zhone is a shitty solution, but it is better than an x100p`
`18:38.10`	`drray`	`imo`
`18:38.30`	`rue_mohr`	`T1 cards ARE $500 yesno?`
`18:38.34`	`drray`	`yes`
`18:38.56`	`drray`	`but that mix and match digium 4 port fxs/fxo monstrosity is 300`
`18:39.12`	`rue_mohr`	`see, a x100p + 2 pap2 will cost me $190 and give me one fxo and 3 fxs`
`18:39.12`	`drray`	`I'll be selling those too`
`18:39.15`	`rue_mohr`	`er 4fxs`
`18:39.49`	`drray`	`rue-_mohr - I'd go wit ha sip did before Irelied on a x100p`
`18:39.58`	`Nivex`	`except that I can't find a single soul who has anything nice to say about the x100p`
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`18:40.17`	`rue_mohr`	`haha`
`18:40.18`	`rue_mohr`	`hmm`
`18:40.19`	`drray`	`the x100p is great card for playing with asterisk, you get your feet wet for $20`
`18:40.25`	`mitcheloc`	`okay, i'm out of here`
`18:40.29`	`drray`	`there, that is something nice`
`18:40.33`	`rue_mohr`	`well, what kinda problems come up with them?`
`18:40.44`	`sevard`	`x100p is $20? whoa`
`18:40.52`	`rue_mohr`	`www.ebay.com`
`18:41.00`	`drray`	`I need to sell mine`
`18:41.05`	`drray`	`before it goes down to $10`
`18:41.07`	`rue_mohr`	`damnit, there go the cards I was gonna go buy`
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`18:41.18`	`rue_mohr`	`or maybe I'll wait`
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`18:41.28`	`drray`	`there is nothing wrong with the x100p`
`18:41.29`	`rue_mohr`	`I'll give you $11 :)`
`18:41.35`	`drray`	`it's like the budgetone`
`18:41.40`	`drray`	`it's a good starter device`
`18:41.47`	`drray`	`when you have more time than money`
`18:41.53`	`rue_mohr`	`ok, well I only need one fxo`
`18:42.35`	`rue_mohr`	`I'm sure everyone will get used to "sorry, no lines available"`
`18:42.43`	`rue_mohr`	`:)`
`18:42.57`	`sevard`	`i thought the x100p supposedly sounds like shit and has echo problems`
`18:43.08`	`rue_mohr`	`ahhh, echo problems!`
`18:43.17`	`drray`	`every pbx has echo problems`
`18:43.22`	`drray`	`echo is normal`
`18:43.46`	`drray`	`your $800 cell phone has echo`
`18:43.47`	`rue_mohr`	`I work with kb1kanobe, the hardware echo cans did wonders`
`18:43.47`	`Brijn`	`Can anyone recommened an ebay seller?`
`18:44.00`	`rue_mohr`	`canobe... anyhow`
`18:44.10`	`Brijn`	`For 20$ it's fun to give it a try`
`18:44.20`	`drray`	`it's worth 20 bucks for that`
`18:44.31`	`drray`	`I don't regret buying mine or my budgetone`
`18:44.35`	`rue_mohr`	`how is the echo can code after the recent corrections?`
`18:44.43`	`drray`	`but I fired them within six months`
`18:44.49`	`rue_mohr`	`fried?`
`18:44.53`	`drray`	`but I was bit with the asterisk bug`
`18:44.54`	`sevard`	`you fired`
`18:44.58`	`sevard`	`YOU FIED`
`18:45.04`	`rue_mohr`	`mmm`
`18:45.05`	`drray`	`no soup for you`
`18:45.35`	`sevard`	`we can't jump from kid's computer animation films to shitty sitcoms with one good episode`
`18:45.46`	`rue_mohr`	`ok, in classic ikea fasion, I forgot 8 carridge bolts when designing my bed, so I have to go do some shopping`
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`18:47.25`	`sevard`	`whoa, i had a dream where i called this company and got put on hold and their moh was the music from Home Movies`
`18:47.55`	`sevard`	`and i realized it wasn't music from Home Movies, infact that music was free shitty music that anyone can download on the internet`
`18:48.04`	`sevard`	`i screamed IT'`
`18:48.14`	`sevard`	`i screamed IT'S A SCAM`
`18:48.30`	`sevard`	`then i went to walgreens.`
`18:49.19`	`Zhadnost`	`Is there a way that I can prevent asterisk from answering a ZAP channel without destroying it (would still like to be able to dial through it)?`
`18:49.42`	`drray`	`sevard - do you yell at the girl at red robin because there is no such thing as chicken fajitas?`
`18:50.09`	`drray`	`Zhadnost - don't include it in your incoming group`
`18:50.14`	`sevard`	`what the hell is red robin`
`18:50.22`	`drray`	`tgifridays`
`18:50.33`	`sevard`	`don't have one`
`18:50.44`	`drray`	`denny's`
`18:50.49`	`sevard`	`but i'd strangle a bitch if they didn't give me a chicken fajita`
`18:50.54`	`drray`	`chain food joint`
`18:51.11`	`sevard`	`apple bees, green mill, ground round`
`18:51.12`	`drray`	`a fajita is a cut of meat, from a cow`
`18:51.17`	`Zhadnost`	`incoming group?`
`18:51.34`	`sevard`	`really`
`18:51.37`	`drray`	`how is your i, extension configured?`
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`18:51.46`	`sevard`	`well, german > spanish.`
`18:51.54`	`drray`	`savard :)`
`18:52.18`	`sevard`	`dsray :)`
`18:52.28`	`drray`	`the semantic point is, there is no such thing as a veggie fajita`
`18:53.05`	`sevard`	`"i'll have 4 chicken fa...fa jitas`
`18:53.10`	`drray`	`I go on about this because I had to listen to a girl go on about it at a red robin one time`
`18:53.30`	`sevard`	`did you punch her in the throat?`
`18:53.34`	`drray`	`not for that`
`18:53.43`	`drray`	`her boobs were nice enough that I let it go`
`18:54.01`	`drray`	`if it were not for breasts there would be a bounty on their heads`
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`18:54.13`	`sevard`	`i would have punched her in the throat then stomped on everything except her tits.`
`18:54.26`	`drray`	`sevard is my kind of ninja`
`18:54.40`	`sevard`	`haha`
`18:54.58`	`sevard`	`that dream reminded that i need to go to walgreens`
`18:55.08`	`sevard`	`does walgreens sell those one time use digital cameras, the dakotas?`
`18:55.25`	`drray`	`the one that you can build your own cable for?`
`18:55.30`	`sevard`	`yeah`
`18:55.37`	`drray`	`so you can get your own subpixel digital camera`
`18:56.04`	`sevard`	`i remember hearing about those cameras a year or so ago but i think they're only at cvs, not sure if they're at walgreens`
`18:56.17`	`drray`	`I got mine at ritz camera`
`18:56.19`	`sevard`	`drray: they're like 4 or 5 mp`
`18:56.20`	`drray`	`a local chain`
`18:56.25`	`drray`	`.4`
`18:56.30`	`sevard`	`.4?`
`18:56.35`	`sevard`	`800x600?`
`18:56.42`	`drray`	`the one I got was terrible`
`18:56.49`	`drray`	`it was fun making the cable`
`18:57.15`	`drray`	`it uses a cmos chip for the apature`
`18:57.18`	`sevard`	`http://www.elephantstaircase.com/wiki/images/2/22/Sample2.jpg`
`18:57.32`	`sevard`	`http://www.elephantstaircase.com/wiki/images/d/d0/Sample1.jpg`
`18:57.36`	`sevard`	`those pictures look alright`
`18:58.04`	`sevard`	`tht's 1280x960`
`18:58.07`	`drray`	`1.3 mp`
`18:58.09`	`drray`	`my bad`
`18:58.29`	`drray`	`I took two pictures of my work table`
`18:58.31`	`sevard`	`still a good deal for $10`
`18:58.34`	`drray`	`and then put the camera away`
`18:58.38`	`sevard`	`send it to me`
`18:58.39`	`drray`	`it's a fun project`
`18:58.45`	`drray`	`http://www.cexx.org/dakota/`
`18:58.57`	`drray`	`there is now an lcd one`
`18:59.11`	`sevard`	`yeah i heard`
`18:59.15`	`sevard`	`that'd be tight`
`18:59.36`	`drray`	`the cable you built would be worth more than the camear`
`18:59.42`	`sevard`	`Note, these are not currently hacked.`
`19:00.03`	`drray`	`I don't know how to turn my cell phone camera on`
`19:00.20`	`drray`	`well, don't know is a bit much, I've just never bothered`
`19:00.59`	`drray`	`I think it'd be funner to build your own CCD camear out of junk parts`
`19:01.10`	`drray`	`but I've been getting into PIC controllers`
`19:04.28`	`sevard`	`it was halloween in my dream`
`19:14.15`	`Zhadnost`	`if zaptel detects a fax signal, does it automatically turn echo cancellation off?`
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`19:15.10`	`Zhadnost`	`(still can't get it to not answer the line without breaking the line).`
`19:15.13`	`Zhadnost`	`lo Toto`
`19:17.16`	`Idle`	`someone wanna run an echo test on my machine for me? (testing remote access calling)`
`19:21.10`	`Strom_C`	`good morning`
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`19:26.46`	`Winkie`	`anyone got a good autoload=no modules.conf? ;)`
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`19:50.27`	`jaspercount`	`hello, i was wondering if someone oculd help me with a p[roblem i have with asterisjk`
`19:51.05`	`jaspercount`	`i can make 1800calls out fine, but incoming calls get a all circuits are busy message and outgoing non800 calls get a message stating i dontneed to dial a 1 (even when I dont dial a 1))`
`19:51.16`	`Flauto`	`nice game`
`19:52.48`	`SkramX`	`jaspercount: it seems like it has to do with your termination provider`
`19:53.36`	`jaspercount`	`is there something on my end that would need to be fixed? or would i need to contact my provider to fix it?`
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`19:54.10`	`SkramX`	`jaspercount: I don't know. Sounds like a provider thing`
`19:54.19`	`SkramX`	`do incoming calls even reach your asterisk box?`
`19:54.29`	`SkramX`	`set verbose to something high and call yourself`
`19:55.44`	`jaspercount`	`im watching the CLI, i call myself and no doesnt look like they even get to my box`
`19:55.54`	`SkramX`	`so it must be a provider thing, eh?`
`19:55.58`	`SkramX`	`or maybe a network thing on your end.`
`19:56.03`	`jaspercount`	`seems like it, thanks`
`19:56.07`	`SkramX`	`doesnt seem to be anything wrong with your * box`
`19:56.19`	`SkramX`	`contact your provider, I suggest`
`19:57.13`	`jaspercount`	`i kninda thought itmight be a network thing on my end, we cleanedup some cables the other day but would it still be able to make outgoing 800# calls if it werea a cable thing?`
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`20:05.12`	`sevard`	`jaspercount: what cid number are you sending to the pstn`
`20:05.32`	`sevard`	`if you aren't sending a real number that can be queried your calls to a 800 number will be rejected`
`20:05.51`	`jaspercount`	`no no, 800 calls are workin perfectly`
`20:05.58`	`jaspercount`	`its incoming and all other outgoign`
`20:06.16`	`sevard`	`oh`
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`20:07.02`	`jaspercount`	`i wondering if 800 numbers work could it be a cable problem or would it have to be my provider?`
`20:07.08`	`sevard`	`SkramX: is right, contact yo0ur provider`
`20:07.08`	`jonathh1`	`hey, im trying to get my grandstream budgettone 101 working on my asterisk box. Problem is it seems to crash when it connects to asterisk. any ideas?`
`20:07.17`	`jonathh1`	`the phone crashesthat is`
`20:07.37`	`SkramX`	`sevard: what's new :P`
`20:07.42`	`SkramX`	`</cockiness>`
`20:07.48`	`sevard`	`sonofabitch`
`20:08.18`	`sevard`	`watch it again`
`20:08.25`	`drray`	`jonathh1 - what firmware on the budgetone?`
`20:08.25`	`sevard`	`or i'll break your fucking face`
`20:08.35`	`jonathh1`	`if i do a tcpdump i can see some sip chatter, but asterisk doesn't show any attempts`
`20:09.06`	`jonathh1`	`Program-- 1.0.8.23 Bootloader-- 1.0.8.11 HTML-- 1.0.8.23 VOC-- 0.0.0.0`
`20:09.16`	`sevard`	`is it phone keepalive chatter?`
`20:10.02`	`jonathh1`	`dont think so... it is when i first pwoer the phone up.. PHONE-AST AST-PHONE PHONE-AST then the phone speaker clicks and it is dead`
`20:10.23`	`drray`	`can you get to the webinterface?`
`20:10.27`	`sevard`	`oh, i thought you were jaspercount`
`20:10.32`	`drray`	`on the phone`
`20:10.32`	`sevard`	`seems i need more sleep`
`20:10.33`	`jonathh1`	`before it goes funny, yes`
`20:10.44`	`drray`	`change the tftp server to budgetones site`
`20:11.01`	`drray`	`it's got nothing to do with asterisk`
`20:11.01`	`jonathh1`	`168.75.215.189?`
`20:11.15`	`drray`	`mine was doing that`
`20:11.18`	`jonathh1`	`i didn't think it did... but the authentication maybe`
`20:11.35`	`drray`	`I power cycled mine during a reboot`
`20:11.38`	`jonathh1`	`i am back playing with ast again after about 6months.. this phone was working.`
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`20:12.01`	`jonathh1`	`i cant get the firmware update to kick off`
`20:12.05`	`jonathh1`	`that seems to crash it also!`
`20:12.23`	`sevard`	`sounds to me like your phone is toast`
`20:12.46`	`jonathh1`	`possible.. just strange.. i can see it speaking.. then click.. dead`
`20:12.49`	`drray`	`I fixed mine when it was doing it`
`20:13.01`	`sevard`	`drray: is there a failsafe boot mode on the budgetones?`
`20:13.01`	`drray`	`I got it to redownload a firmware`
`20:13.02`	`jonathh1`	`what did you do?`
`20:13.06`	`jonathh1`	`how?`
`20:14.12`	`drray`	`168.75.215.189`
`20:14.24`	`jonathh1`	`you pluggedt hat into the phone.. then what?`
`20:14.33`	`drray`	`then let it beat itself up`
`20:14.43`	`drray`	`and it healed itself`
`20:14.48`	`sevard`	`...`
`20:14.55`	`drray`	`but this was back when it was 4.somthing`
`20:15.03`	`jonathh1`	`it rebooted?`
`20:15.06`	`drray`	`it did`
`20:15.13`	`jonathh1`	`does the display indicate that when it is updating?`
`20:15.25`	`drray`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Budgetone`
`20:15.26`	`drray`	`no`
`20:15.33`	`drray`	`it just goes blue and clicks`
`20:15.35`	`drray`	`and dies`
`20:15.41`	`drray`	`mine would do that over and over`
`20:16.03`	`drray`	`you could check for tftp trafic`
`20:16.12`	`drray`	`and see what the budgetone is trying to do`
`20:16.28`	`drray`	`if it is trying to get to a bogus tftp server`
`20:16.37`	`jonathh1`	`ok`
`20:16.41`	`drray`	`OR`
`20:16.47`	`jonathh1`	`will try that.. have just got TCPDUMP that should help`
`20:17.02`	`drray`	`you could get a copy of the firmware, a tftserver and statically set your ip onthe budgetone`
`20:17.06`	`drray`	`if the DHCP is killing it`
`20:17.19`	`drray`	`they are junk btw`
`20:17.21`	`drray`	`:)`
`20:17.30`	`jonathh1`	`what is junk?`
`20:17.34`	`jonathh1`	`grandstreams?`
`20:17.36`	`drray`	`the budgetones`
`20:17.39`	`drray`	`I have one`
`20:17.44`	`jonathh1`	`yeah i have found they are shite..`
`20:17.47`	`drray`	`I don't regret buying it`
`20:17.48`	`drray`	`for testing`
`20:18.00`	`jonathh1`	`:) i never got it working 100% even at the height`
`20:18.14`	`jonathh1`	`right, tftp plumbed in`
`20:18.16`	`jonathh1`	`rebooting the phone`
`20:18.21`	`drray`	`my boss wanted to use budgetones and I said sure if he would buy 10% more than we needed and toss the ones that were bad`
`20:18.29`	`drray`	`er, 100%`
`20:18.41`	`drray`	`so we got ciscos`
`20:18.50`	`jonathh1`	`yeah.. i can understand`
`20:19.04`	`drray`	`but you should be able to revive it`
`20:19.09`	`drray`	`or at least I did`
`20:19.16`	`jonathh1`	`i am hoping so.. my mate has ym sipura`
`20:19.21`	`jonathh1`	`and i want to do some test`
`20:19.39`	`jonathh1`	`do i have to set in the website that i want it to auto update orsomething?`
`20:20.09`	`drray`	`I need to find a phone with a more intuitive transfer function, I have a site that can't transfer with the 7960`
`20:20.24`	`jonathh1`	`why?`
`20:20.28`	`drray`	`jonathh1 - I'd keep it as simple as possible`
`20:20.45`	`drray`	`I believe the budgetone is looking for a firmware update`
`20:21.01`	`drray`	`you might have to reconfigure your network to look like what it wants to see`
`20:21.13`	`jonathh1`	`well i have plumbed in the ip you gave,`
`20:21.28`	`jonathh1`	`set in the web to 'check for new firmware' cos i had turned that off...`
`20:21.30`	`jonathh1`	`rebooted`
`20:21.34`	`jonathh1`	`click... dead`
`20:21.38`	`drray`	`give it a second`
`20:21.43`	`jonathh1`	`no chatter`
`20:21.44`	`jonathh1`	`either`
`20:22.02`	`jonathh1`	`tcpdump sees nothing and the network light is solid`
`20:22.03`	`drray`	`I don't think you have to check for new firmware`
`20:22.17`	`drray`	`is it grabbing a dhcp address?`
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`20:22.34`	`jonathh1`	`if the backlight is suppose ot be on.. it isn't`
`20:22.34`	`jonathh1`	`no`
`20:22.37`	`jonathh1`	`i have static'd it`
`20:22.47`	`drray`	`can you ever ping the ip?`
`20:22.52`	`drray`	`during its bootup`
`20:22.55`	`drray`	`throng`
`20:23.09`	`jonathh1`	`there is a period.. before the click i can connect to the phone`
`20:23.15`	`jonathh1`	`cos i can get in using the webinterface`
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`20:24.04`	`jonathh1`	`i wonder if the phone might be getting choked up with my router, what port is tftp?`
`20:24.22`	`jonathh1`	`21 like normal?`
`20:24.23`	`jaspercount`	`just to reconfirm, if i can dial out 800#'s but not inbound or any other outbound... there isnt a cabling problem on my end....its my provider?`
`20:24.40`	`drray`	`udp 69`
`20:24.53`	`drray`	`grab a tftp server`
`20:24.59`	`drray`	`run it on your subnet`
`20:25.05`	`jonathh1`	`ok, was wondering if it was 5060 cos that is forwarded to the ast box`
`20:25.05`	`drray`	`http://www.tftp-server.com/tftp_server_configuration.html`
`20:25.11`	`drray`	`it is UDP`
`20:25.39`	`jonathh1`	`is that a pay-for one?`
`20:26.02`	`drray`	`I got it with my zhone`
`20:26.06`	`drray`	`so I don't think so`
`20:26.17`	`drray`	`there is a linux tftp server`
`20:26.31`	`jonathh1`	`http://www.solarwinds.net/Tools/Free_tools/TFTP_Server/download.htm`
`20:26.33`	`jonathh1`	`i am getting that one`
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`20:26.45`	`jonathh1`	`did you do it this way in the end?`
`20:26.46`	`drray`	`then you can check the log to see if it tries to connect`
`20:26.52`	`drray`	`I don't remember`
`20:26.55`	`jonathh1`	`ok`
`20:27.04`	`drray`	`it was back when the tftp server was 4.something`
`20:27.13`	`drray`	`which the wiki says was in 04`
`20:27.14`	`drray`	`:)`
`20:27.21`	`drray`	`but I did fix it`
`20:27.46`	`jonathh1`	`ok trying that now`
`20:27.52`	`drray`	`good luck`
`20:28.06`	`drray`	`then when you get pissed, get a baseball bat and go get your sipra back`
`20:30.02`	`jonathh1`	`:)`
`20:30.09`	`jonathh1`	`resetting..`
`20:31.17`	`drray`	`you could also try an older firmware`
`20:31.22`	`jaspercount`	`just to reconfirm, if i can dial out 800#'s but not inbound or any other outbound... there isnt a cabling problem on my end....its my provider?`
`20:31.27`	`jonathh1`	`ok`
`20:31.32`	`jonathh1`	`i am getting comms to my server`
`20:31.39`	`drray`	`you've been told to call your provider`
`20:31.40`	`jonathh1`	`do i just dump the firmware filesi n the route?`
`20:32.04`	`drray`	`I know how to use the windows tftp server`
`20:32.08`	`jaspercount`	`well my provider is initially tellingme that there is somethign wrong with my bxo`
`20:32.11`	`jonathh1`	`ok`
`20:32.17`	`jaspercount`	`which didnt make sense to me if i could make an outoign 800 call`
`20:32.25`	`jonathh1`	`i have unziped the firmware filesi nto hte 'root' fir for the serer`
`20:32.33`	`drray`	`I believe that is what you need`
`20:32.42`	`drray`	`but the budgetone is trying`
`20:34.24`	`jonathh1`	`it started to get the files`
`20:34.31`	`drray`	`then died?`
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`20:35.49`	`jonathh1`	`trying again`
`20:36.01`	`drray`	`just let it do its thing`
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`20:38.20`	`variable_office`	`is there a way to have asterisk run a system command when a certain extension is dialed and then continue based on the result from that system commnad?`
`20:38.26`	`variable_office`	`*command`
`20:38.48`	`sevard`	`System()`
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`20:39.41`	`jonathh1`	`how long should it take?`
`20:39.52`	`sevard`	`but the return codes are only sucess and failure, so you might want to write an agi`
`20:39.56`	`variable_office`	`can system take back in input?`
`20:39.58`	`drray`	`2-3 reboots`
`20:40.08`	`jonathh1`	`ok`
`20:40.16`	`drray`	`I'm guessing it is not going to work`
`20:40.18`	`jonathh1`	`this reboot we just have a blue backfrop`
`20:40.25`	`drray`	`well`
`20:40.36`	`jonathh1`	`and no tftp comms`
`20:40.39`	`drray`	`hmmm`
`20:40.40`	`jonathh1`	`so i am leaving it for a bit`
`20:40.44`	`drray`	`cross em`
`20:40.56`	`jonathh1`	`:)`
`20:42.39`	`jonathh1`	`im gonna reboot it agian`
`20:42.51`	`variable_office`	`ie. say i run a little bash script that echos out either either a yes or a no, can asterisk then do x if yes and y if no ?`
`20:43.34`	`glm2k`	`how about you use the bash script to run and asterisk -rx command based on that yes or no?`
`20:43.47`	`glm2k`	`s/and/an/`
`20:44.12`	`glm2k`	`that's a good bot. here, have a cookie`
`20:44.27`	`drray`	`s/cookie/rat poison`
`20:44.31`	`glm2k`	`lol`
`20:44.44`	`glm2k`	`he didn't take your bait`
`20:45.05`	`drray`	`so he's smarter than the average internet user`
`20:45.08`	`variable_office`	`glm2k what would having the bash script run asterisk -rx do?`
`20:45.34`	`glm2k`	`drray: hehe`
`20:45.45`	`variable_office`	`glm2k what i want is for if i dial extension 111 for example, asterisk will ping some ips, and then report back if they replied or not over the phone`
`20:46.05`	`glm2k`	`variable_office: ah, sorry, didn't arrive in time to read your first posts`
`20:46.20`	`glm2k`	`variable_office: you could use a gotoif based on that yes or no then`
`20:47.13`	`jonathh1`	`i think it is fried now`
`20:47.22`	`jonathh1`	`everytime just a blank background`
`20:47.32`	`drray`	`turn off your tftp server?`
`20:47.42`	`jonathh1`	`no, but i took the netowqrk cable out`
`20:47.43`	`drray`	`can you get to it via the web?`
`20:48.04`	`drray`	`doesn't it need a network to sync?`
`20:48.09`	`jonathh1`	`it dispalys nothing so ia m guessing no`
`20:48.10`	`drray`	`I don't know`
`20:48.17`	`glm2k`	`variable_office: personally, i'd rather use the bash script's conditional statements than *'s gotoif`
`20:48.28`	`drray`	`but you've already spent more than your time is worth on the phone`
`20:48.37`	`jonathh1`	`it is just a backlight.. no text what so ever`
`20:48.47`	`variable_office`	`glm2k so would it be something like gotoif(system(bashscript)?3:4) ?`
`20:48.54`	`glm2k`	`yep`
`20:48.55`	`variable_office`	`where it does 3 if true, 4 if false`
`20:49.01`	`variable_office`	`?`
`20:49.27`	`drray`	`my budgetone with no network boots to 0:00`
`20:49.34`	`drray`	`so you are probably done`
`20:49.53`	`drray`	`flashing network icon`
`20:51.38`	`jonathh1`	`i think it is dead`
`20:51.42`	`jonathh1`	`but i will leave it over night`
`20:51.46`	`jonathh1`	`as i am knackered`
`20:51.50`	`jonathh1`	`thanks for your help`
`20:51.53`	`drray`	`sure`
`20:51.59`	`drray`	`sorry it did not turn out better`
`20:52.05`	`jonathh1`	`:) need to get a cisco :)`
`20:52.17`	`drray`	`cisco are a pain in a different way`
`20:53.02`	`jonathh1`	`:)`
`20:53.27`	`sevard`	`i'm a wizard wizard oh wizard wizard a wizard man!`
`20:53.48`	`drray`	`ninja`
`20:55.08`	`sevard`	`drray: there isn't anything cool on the internet anymore`
`20:55.31`	`variable_office`	`glm2k what inputs can gotoif accept as true or false?`
`20:55.47`	`drray`	`sevard - pinkworld.com`
`20:55.53`	`drray`	`not safe for work`
`20:55.54`	`drray`	`btw`
`20:56.16`	`sevard`	`how is that even cool/new`
`20:56.26`	`variable_office`	`glm2k nvm`
`20:56.27`	`drray`	`it is very cool`
`20:56.36`	`drray`	`and it has yet to get old`
`20:56.38`	`sevard`	`and i hate the whole "check out these 15 3 second clips`
`20:56.39`	`glm2k`	`variable_office: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+GotoIf ? :)`
`20:57.03`	`variable_office`	`glm2k ya i just figured it thanks`
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`20:57.16`	`glm2k`	`np`
`20:57.18`	`krausen`	`hello`
`20:57.32`	`drray`	`i had a popup the other day that axed if I was tired of jerking off to 20 second porno clips. and I stopped and thought about it, and it was a resounding NO, that in fact I was not tired of jerking off to 20 second video clips.`
`20:57.50`	`sevard`	`hahahaha`
`20:57.57`	`sevard`	`btw are you black`
`20:58.00`	`drray`	`no`
`20:58.07`	`sevard`	`'axed'`
`20:58.09`	`drray`	`yes`
`20:58.14`	`sevard`	`are you from`
`20:58.17`	`sevard`	`the year 3000`
`20:58.19`	`drray`	`Tejas`
`20:58.20`	`drray`	`no`
`20:58.25`	`drray`	`but I am ahead of my time`
`20:58.40`	`sevard`	`did i get that right? i haven't seen futureama in years`
`20:58.46`	`drray`	`futurama`
`20:58.47`	`drray`	`yes`
`20:58.57`	`sevard`	`oh snap a week or so ago they announced they're making 13 new episodes`
`20:59.08`	`drray`	`I have not gone crazy enough to refer to myself in the third person`
`20:59.15`	`drray`	`yey`
`20:59.17`	`drray`	`er, yet`
`20:59.24`	`drray`	`/s/yey/yet`
`20:59.40`	`drray`	`drray gets no jbot love`
`20:59.57`	`sevard`	`try this`
`21:00.01`	`sevard`	`s/this/that/g`
`21:00.13`	`drray`	`what is the g?`
`21:00.17`	`sevard`	`man sed`
`21:00.23`	`drray`	`hmmm`
`21:00.30`	`drray`	`back to pinkworld it is`
`21:00.39`	`sevard`	`digg sucks balls.`
`21:00.46`	`drray`	`heh`
`21:00.59`	`SkramX`	`tell digg to comeover to my house in that case :P`
`21:01.05`	`drray`	`no kidding`
`21:01.17`	`sevard`	`ball sucking > *`
`21:01.30`	`sevard`	`i guess that can be taken a few ways in #asterisk`
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`21:01.58`	`SpaceBass`	`hey folks`
`21:02.03`	`sevard`	`hi`
`21:02.31`	`SpaceBass`	`I'm trying to work out a nat issue with a remote sip phone...both the phone and the * box are behind NAT and I've forwarded 5060 and the RTP ports to the * box and the phone`
`21:02.54`	`SpaceBass`	`when the phone registers its reporting its IP local to the remote network`
`21:03.14`	`SpaceBass`	`as opposed to the WAN IP of the remote network...`
`21:03.22`	`SpaceBass`	`as a result, the phone registers but there is no audio`
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`21:07.26`	`krausen`	`here's one for someone... my callerid as shown on my local phones isn't getting a timestamp.`
`21:07.42`	`krausen`	`is this something in asterisk or a function of the ATA's`
`21:08.16`	`sevard`	`that should be a function of your analog phone, make sure the time is set on your phone.`
`21:08.57`	`PMantis`	`This asterisk instal has a weird problem with "playback"`
`21:09.21`	`PMantis`	`I boot up, and asterisk can plan files to phones (password prompts, etc).`
`21:09.53`	`krausen`	`I've never had to set the time on a callerid box before`
`21:10.12`	`PMantis`	`I restart asterisk after a Zaptel change, and I see the CLI say: Playing 'whatever/soundfile' (language 'en')`
`21:10.29`	`PMantis`	`It just sits there until the channel disconnects, accepts no input, etc`
`21:10.35`	`PMantis`	`happens w/ SIP phones, etc.`
`21:10.44`	`krausen`	`btw, iax2 is udp only correct?`
`21:10.56`	`SpaceBass`	`krausen, yeah`
`21:11.11`	`krausen`	`so it should go across openVPN just fine, provided I trim the mtu accordingly`
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`21:12.20`	`SpaceBass`	`yeah`
`21:12.32`	`SpaceBass`	`not sure why you'd even have to trim the MTU`
`21:12.42`	`SpaceBass`	`unless the gateway or ISP is choping packets`
`21:12.44`	`krausen`	`so it doesn't fragment so much`
`21:13.25`	`krausen`	`good point if I have an openvpn endpoint on the same box`
`21:13.41`	`krausen`	`anyway...seems like it would be fun to try`
`21:15.54`	`PMantis`	`Then I reboot and the sound works fine... but the zaptel modules loaded in the opposite order so * thinks channel 25 is part of the PRI, not the TDM card.`
`21:16.19`	`PMantis`	`so I shut down asterisk, reload the modules, and the Zap extension works, but no sound playback.`
`21:16.21`	`PMantis`	`Arrgh`
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`21:23.16`	`drray`	`that is odd`
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`21:32.29`	`PMantis`	`Hmmm, weird`
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`21:33.02`	`variable_office`	`glm2k i have this for the extensions "$[System(/root/pingscript 10.1.50.5) = "yes"]?3:4" but i keep getting Jun 25 16:28:36 WARNING[4372]: ast_expr2.fl:183 ast_yyerror: ast_yyerror(): syntax error: syntax error, unexpected TOK_LP, expecting $end; Input:`
`21:33.02`	`variable_office`	`System(/root/pingscript 10.1.50.5) = "yes"`
`21:33.05`	`PMantis`	`I found that if I modprobe wctdm first, them wcte11xp last, * can play sounds.`
`21:33.06`	`variable_office`	`any ideas ?`
`21:33.23`	`PMantis`	`if I modprobe the other way around, * cannot play sounds, and hangs in the "Playback" application`
`21:33.49`	`viking78`	`Anyone here worked with 2BCT on a PCI at all?`
`21:33.55`	`viking78`	`oops PRI`
`21:34.49`	`variable_office`	`what syntax do i have wrong?`
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`21:37.06`	`Idle`	`wow... I just had a call with another guy over SIP and the internet... that signal quality is AMAZING`
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`21:39.07`	`viking78`	`I take it that was your first time Idle?`
`21:39.27`	`drray`	`heh`
`21:39.33`	`drray`	`kind of sells itself`
`21:39.55`	`variable_office`	`can you even do system() within a gotoif?`
`21:40.37`	`viking78`	`VoIP is great stuff until you need to call the cable company to order a repair on your cable modem. ;)`
`21:40.57`	`drray`	`sssh`
`21:41.04`	`dangerarea`	`viking78: that's what work is for`
`21:41.20`	`dgilmore`	`thats why i have a mobile phone`
`21:41.26`	`drray`	`voip is great when your t1 is 100% full and you cant afford to drop a call`
`21:41.54`	`viking78`	`Same here, I wouldn't leave home without my treo 650.`
`21:42.13`	`drray`	`tmobile MDA`
`21:42.16`	`drray`	`but yeah`
`21:42.28`	`drray`	`the treo locks up a lot`
`21:42.41`	`dgilmore`	`need to work out now linking it via bluetooth to asterisk`
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`21:42.51`	`viking78`	`drray: you must use sprint ;)`
`21:43.05`	`drray`	`not any more`
`21:43.06`	`drray`	`:)`
`21:43.59`	`variable_office`	`anyone here ever use gotoif with a system condition?`
`21:44.59`	`dangerarea`	`we're getting upgrades at work on our phones`
`21:45.17`	`dangerarea`	`need to find a nice wifi one that works with *`
`21:45.19`	`SpaceBass`	`lol`
`21:45.44`	`SpaceBass`	`STAY AWAY from the linksys wifi phones`
`21:45.57`	`SpaceBass`	`Hitachi IP5000 is nice...or at least the nicest on the market currently`
`21:46.02`	`dangerarea`	`like the N80 but unconvinced of it's voip capabilities`
`21:46.10`	`viking78`	`variable_office: I have not tried a gotoif with a system condition. Could you try assigning the system call to a variable and then compare the variable in the if?`
`21:46.17`	`SpaceBass`	`the problem is that none of them supports WPA fully and with out security its going to be a hard sell`
`21:46.21`	`robin_sz`	`voip is great in theory ... we've abandoned using SIP termination, due to lack of termination providers`
`21:46.30`	`robin_sz`	`well, ones who can route a cal anyway`
`21:46.48`	`variable_office`	`viking78 i need to only run the command when asterisk calls i think`
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`21:47.17`	`robin_sz`	`our guys got fed up of calling towns ten miles away and getting stuck in some telco in phrazackstan`
`21:47.24`	`variable_office`	`viking78 i have this "$[System(/root/pingscript 10.1.50.5) = "yes"]?3:4" and it errors every time`
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`21:48.32`	`variable_office`	`i am sure i have something misplaced or something, but i cant find any examples of gotoif with system condition online, how di d you do it?`
`21:48.32`	`robin_sz`	`we went back to using asterisk and voip phones internally, and thenout onto the good old ISDN lines`
`21:48.44`	`dangerarea`	`anyone got any suggestions for mobiles? nokia, wifi and do voip?`
`21:49.15`	`SpaceBass`	`The PPC-6700 (or verizon or cingular version) has wifi and high speed cell data`
`21:49.28`	`SpaceBass`	`i hear the nokia n80 is nice`
`21:49.31`	`variable_office`	`viking78 i have the correct spaces i beleive right?`
`21:49.44`	`dangerarea`	`i love the n80 but not sure it can do it`
`21:50.00`	`dangerarea`	`it uses sip for video and picture sharing`
`21:50.07`	`viking78`	`variable_office I'm gonna try that on my setup and see what happenes. BRB`
`21:50.16`	`variable_office`	`viking78 thanks`
`21:50.29`	`c`	`can any of them do SIP over cell-data networks tho?`
`21:50.46`	`dangerarea`	`maybe`
`21:51.02`	`dangerarea`	`how well depends on the operators i guess`
`21:51.15`	`variable_office`	`viking78 if you need a copy of my ping script i can send it, but it just echo yes or no and thats it`
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`21:52.06`	`SpaceBass`	`i'd like to find a sip client for the blackberry`
`21:52.26`	`SpaceBass`	`sprint's EVDO service averages about 700k for me...more than enough for a voip call`
`21:53.04`	`dangerarea`	`i've used sip codecs for broadcast over gprs in a trial`
`21:53.15`	`dangerarea`	`wasn't quite there but close`
`21:53.26`	`viking78`	`variable_office I think the problem is that the System command doesn't return the text but only error codes. In other words if it works without error it will go the the next step in the dialplan. If it returns an error code other than 0 it will go to dialplan step 101+n.`
`21:53.26`	`dangerarea`	`using g722`
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`21:53.32`	`viking78`	`Look at this: http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+System`
`21:53.51`	`c`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:54.04`	`c`	`seems nokia e60 maybe can`
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`21:54.37`	`dangerarea`	`yeah, supposidly the e61 as well`
`21:54.57`	`dangerarea`	`i'm still wondering about the n80 though`
`21:55.04`	`SpaceBass`	`I'd done sip over evdo with my pocket pc phone`
`21:55.10`	`dangerarea`	`i may give nokia a call tomorrow`
`21:55.29`	`SpaceBass`	`dangerarea, probably not supposed to mention this...I'll be getting the e61 and the n80 in for review, probably this week`
`21:56.00`	`dangerarea`	`setting for configuring the e61 i've found`
`21:56.15`	`variable_office`	`viking78 so system doesnt return what the program returns?`
`21:56.16`	`variable_office`	`arrgg`
`21:56.23`	`dangerarea`	`if you do and could let me know i'd love you long time :)`
`21:56.33`	`SpaceBass`	`Haven't ironed out the details with Voxilla about my blog...ie if I can post articles I write for them on my site too...so I cannot tell you where to look for the reviews`
`21:56.38`	`SpaceBass`	`just that I'll be doing them :)`
`21:56.39`	`variable_office`	`viking78 would it be possible to make my script return a 0 or 1 that asterisk can read?`
`21:56.40`	`viking78`	`Doesn't look like it.`
`21:56.54`	`SpaceBass`	`variable_office, what kind of script?`
`21:57.08`	`viking78`	`variable_office is it in bash?`
`21:57.17`	`SpaceBass`	`just exit 1 or exit 0`
`21:57.33`	`variable_office`	`SpaceBass it pings a client, and i want gotoif to be able to do stuff on its results`
`21:57.33`	`viking78`	`correct, that's what I was going to say.`
`21:57.37`	`SpaceBass`	`asterisk understands exit statues`
`21:57.38`	`variable_office`	`viking78 yes`
`21:57.55`	`SpaceBass`	`yeah, you can specify the exit status`
`21:57.57`	`viking78`	`just use exit 0 for yes and exit 1 for false`
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`21:58.06`	`SpaceBass`	`I use that for my Asterisk - itunes remote control script`
`21:58.30`	`Dr-Linux`	`i'm going to buy a Nokia cell phone tomorrow, any phone which has something good regarding asterisk?`
`21:58.38`	`dangerarea`	`SpaceBass, if you google the n80 you'll see lots of conflicting reports`
`21:58.39`	`SpaceBass`	`and speaking of sprint, earlier, they have a $5 add-on where you can call your "house" for free...so you could use that and DISA and never pay for cell minutes again`
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`21:58.52`	`SpaceBass`	`dangerarea, trying not to read anything until I write my peice`
`21:58.54`	`variable_office`	`SpaceBass itunes remote control ? that sounds sweet`
`21:58.57`	`dangerarea`	`e60/e61 definately`
`21:59.17`	`dangerarea`	`SpaceBass: too late`
`21:59.38`	`variable_office`	`SpaceBass / viking78 should it look like this System(/root/pingscript 10.1.50.5)?3:4`
`21:59.45`	`variable_office`	`err gotoif(System(/root/pingscript 10.1.50.5)?3:4)`
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`21:59.46`	`SpaceBass`	`variable_office, http://www.archatechs.com/blog/files/itunesremote.html`
`22:00.15`	`SpaceBass`	`variable_office, oops, thats note it`
`22:00.18`	`SpaceBass`	`s/note/not`
`22:00.50`	`SpaceBass`	`http://archatechs.wordpress.com/2006/05/11/straight-from-the-archatechs-geek-lab-control-itunes-with-your-phone-part-1/`
`22:00.56`	`SpaceBass`	`ahhh hadn't ported it to the new site yet`
`22:01.47`	`SpaceBass`	`no, take that back...here it is on the new site: http://www.archatechs.com/blog/files/phonetunes.html`
`22:03.21`	`variable_office`	`SpaceBass i cant find an example for something like the gotoif system stuff // and with my script exit 1 or 0 i still cant get it to work, is this the right extension gotoif(System(/root/pingscript 10.1.50.5)?3:4) ?`
`22:04.36`	`viking78`	`variable_office You will need to execute the Systemcommand and then the next extension priority will be if the command succeds otherwise it will goto extension priority 101+n (n being your exit code from the script)`
`22:04.41`	`SpaceBass`	`variable_office, I've always used AGI`
`22:05.03`	`viking78`	`variable_office look at the very bottom of this : http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+tips+wiki`
`22:05.45`	`viking78`	`They run a system command to see if a file exists and then it goes to prio 6 if it does and 106 if it doesn't`
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`22:07.29`	`viking78`	`I'm sorry the 101+n, n is not the return code of your script but the current extension priority.`
`22:07.37`	`variable_office`	`ah`
`22:07.54`	`viking78`	`variable_office does that make sense?`
`22:08.28`	`Dr-Linux`	`woww that was great soccer match ever i seen`
`22:08.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`+101 jumping is deprecated`
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`22:10.29`	`SpaceBass`	`bbl`
`22:10.35`	`viking78`	`Corydon76-home you are correct. I went back and looked ath the docs for System again and it should be that in >=1.2 you should read the variable SYSTEMSTATUS for the return value.`
`22:11.02`	`variable_office`	`viking78 and SpaceBass i got it!! thanks soo much`
`22:11.18`	`viking78`	`No problem`
`22:12.16`	`viking78`	`Anybody using a PRI with *?`
`22:12.30`	`Dr-Linux`	`viking78: i use`
`22:12.34`	`variable_office`	`can you make the asterisk voice say dot as in "." ?`
`22:12.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's in the asterisk-sounds repo`
`22:13.01`	`viking78`	`Dr-Linux, do you use it with the telco or a PBX?`
`22:13.38`	`Dr-Linux`	`viking78: my PRI line is coming from telco`
`22:13.54`	`Dr-Linux`	`i have 2 PRI's in the same server`
`22:14.50`	`viking78`	`Dr-Linux: OK, I'm trying to find someone who is using * as an IVR with a PBX using a PRI. We have one that I'm trying to get 2BCT to work on so I can do transfers.`
`22:16.35`	`Dr-Linux`	`viking78: what do you mean? i'm using asterisk as PBX and using IVR as well`
`22:17.47`	`viking78`	`I want to use * with our legacy PBX. I need to be able to do a 2 B channel transfer back to the switch. I should be able to do this and it will transfer the call back to the PBX and free up the B channels.`
`22:18.15`	`viking78`	`I've seen where this was written into libpri but I can't seem to get it to work.`
`22:18.39`	`file`	`requires a DMS100 I do believe`
`22:18.42`	`Dr-Linux`	`legacy PBX?`
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`22:19.13`	`viking78`	`It's a Tadiran Coral switch.`
`22:19.26`	`Dr-Linux`	`i see`
`22:20.07`	`Dr-Linux`	`viking78: we have Panasonic PBX exchange, i also wanna use that with Asterisk, but not sure if it's possible.`
`22:20.20`	`Dr-Linux`	`file: where is your @ ?`
`22:20.37`	`file`	`I don't have access to ChanServ`
`22:21.00`	`Dr-Linux`	`aww`
`22:21.20`	`Dr-Linux`	`file: so use someone else hands to be @`
`22:21.34`	`Dr-Linux`	`but there is no one`
`22:21.42`	`viking78`	`Dr-Linux, what trunk options do you have on your Panasonic? Also what model is your Panasonic switch?`
`22:22.25`	`viking78`	`Is it one of the smaller KXTD-816/1232 units?`
`22:23.09`	`Dr-Linux`	`viking78: i'm not much sure about our Panasonic PBX, if i find roughly that it's possbile with asterisk, that will be much better for me, and i'll do work on it`
`22:23.51`	`Dr-Linux`	`viking78: however i have configured all other VOIP devices and gateways with asterisk.. i.e. Multitech VOIP gateways ..`
`22:24.40`	`Dr-Linux`	`viking78: is there any hope that panasonic PBX can work with asterisk?`
`22:25.09`	`Dr-Linux`	`currenlty we have 2 PBX's in our office, Asterisk & panasonic`
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`22:25.18`	`gennaro`	`hi`
`22:25.21`	`Dr-Linux`	`but both are not connected with each other, that's bad`
`22:25.23`	`viking78`	`Sure, I've seen several people write about legacy intergations with Panasonic switches on voip-info.org`
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`22:25.32`	`gennaro`	`some one help me with errors during compilation?`
`22:25.39`	`gennaro`	`on FC5`
`22:25.46`	`Dr-Linux`	`gennaro: compilation zaptel?`
`22:25.54`	`gennaro`	`say me that i have not kernel`
`22:26.02`	`gennaro`	`but it's false`
`22:26.07`	`Dr-Linux`	`viking78: then i'll check my panasonic model etc`
`22:26.18`	`gennaro`	`yes in zaptel`
`22:26.27`	`Dr-Linux`	`gennaro: what's the error?`
`22:26.36`	`Dr-Linux`	`and what distro you are using?`
`22:26.42`	`gennaro`	`You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.15-1.2054_FC5 kernel installed.`
`22:27.00`	`Dr-Linux`	`FC 5 aww`
`22:27.10`	`gennaro`	`?`
`22:27.13`	`gennaro`	`FC5`
`22:27.20`	`Dr-Linux`	`gennaro: do you have kernel irc and kernel devel installed?`
`22:28.30`	`gennaro`	`i'm going to see`
`22:28.51`	`gennaro`	`but i belive that is true`
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`22:32.31`	`variable_office`	`what application can i use to simply get input from the user, again for the ping setup. the user could enter 1921681*1 and then i want asterisk to feed it to system command`
`22:32.55`	`viking78`	`variable_office that sounds like an AGI app.`
`22:33.48`	`variable_office`	`there isnt some regular command that can take in input and assign it to a variable ?`
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`22:37.58`	`Idle`	`hmm, when asterisk spews out to my console this message, what do I do....`
`22:38.04`	`Strom_C`	`http://thynovelatt.ytmnd.com/`
`22:38.04`	`Idle`	`Jun 25 16:37:19 ERROR[2470]: chan_sip.c:10988 handle_request_subscribe: Got SUBSCRIBE for extensions without hint. Please add hint to brian in context incomming-home`
`22:40.05`	`variable_office`	`basically i just need background, except dont have it dial an exntension, have it just put the entered number into a variable, is that even possible?`
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`22:41.03`	`viking78`	`Variable_office, I think that's what Read does.`
`22:41.41`	`RomanoRamdas`	`who can help me set up AAH,`
`22:42.39`	`RomanoRamdas`	`my knowledge is zero and if possible really need some help, I read a lot of manuals, but still do not quite understand a lot`
`22:44.28`	`Dr-Linux`	`RomanoRamdas: #freepbx`
`22:44.54`	`Strom_C`	`RomanoRamdas: I doubt anyone here is going to hold your hand the whole way through. If you have specific questions, there are people in here who are more than happy to answer them, but generally full-on hand-holding isn't going to happen. also, for trixbox/asterisk@home, go to #freepbx`
`22:44.56`	`RomanoRamdas`	`thanks`
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`22:55.05`	`Druken`	`200 people on a sunday afternoon,.... god ya know we got no lives....`
`22:55.26`	`robin_sz`	`sunday evening actually`
`22:55.39`	`X-Rob`	`Monday morning`
`22:55.46`	`Druken`	`ya i guess it would be... just noticed it's 7 already`
`22:56.03`	`orlock`	`urgh monday`
`22:56.04`	`Druken`	`still bright as hell outside, looks like 3 in the afternoon.. hehe`
`22:56.15`	`robin_sz`	`monday morning? where?`
`22:56.30`	`orlock`	`australia!`
`22:57.45`	`Druken`	`uhg... ya know... i have no idea how batchlors do it....`
`22:58.22`	`Druken`	`being home alone sucks premium ass`
`22:59.00`	`P-NuT`	`No it doesn't. You don't have anyone nagging you.`
`23:00.43`	`PMantis`	`Has anyone written a script to connect to the digium FTP site, and find out the latest version of each * module?`
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`23:07.35`	`Druken`	`bah... i can't find my book of phone numbers`
`23:08.49`	`viking78`	`Drunken, you use a "book". Have you tried a computer? Or heck even a PDA?`
`23:08.55`	`X-Rob`	`Druken, it's got 'WHITE PAGES' on the front. and it's thick.`
`23:09.06`	`X-Rob`	`it's pretty hard to miss.`
`23:09.31`	`X-Rob`	`heh`
`23:09.34`	`Druken`	`not that god damn book :)`
`23:10.24`	`justinu`	`pen and paper doesn't crash`
`23:10.26`	`Druken`	`viking78: when a chick shows up at your house three sheets to the wind and wants to give you her number, you grab the closest thing, and well..... i don't trust my lappy with a drunk chick`
`23:11.38`	`justinu`	`wait, a chick shows up at your house, and she wants to give you her number?`
`23:11.41`	`justinu`	`that sucks`
`23:12.37`	`Druken`	`well, when she's leavin.. hehe`
`23:12.43`	`X-Rob`	`Ahha`
`23:12.44`	`justinu`	`ok then`
`23:12.45`	`X-Rob`	`there's the problem`
`23:12.47`	`X-Rob`	`don't let her leave.`
`23:12.49`	`X-Rob`	`duh!`
`23:12.58`	`X-Rob`	`get, while the getting's good!`
`23:13.01`	`justinu`	`it puts the lotion in the basket, or else it gets the hose again!`
`23:13.15`	`Druken`	`hehehe`
`23:14.54`	`Druken`	`damnit, i got too many books lying around!`
`23:15.17`	`justinu`	`i'll take em`
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`23:16.45`	`Druken`	`can't find it... oh well... no poontang for me tonight...`
`23:17.03`	`Druken`	`i bet my bitch ex took that book....`
`23:20.00`	`X-Rob`	`yeah. bitch.`
`23:20.09`	`Druken`	`exactly`
`23:20.15`	`Druken`	`the BITCH!`
`23:20.16`	`Druken`	`:)`
`23:20.29`	`X-Rob`	`heh`
`23:20.46`	`X-Rob`	`go find a floozy!`
`23:20.48`	`X-Rob`	`they're not that hard`
`23:20.57`	`X-Rob`	`although, on a sunday night, they might be difficult.`
`23:21.06`	`Druken`	`might be...`
`23:21.12`	`X-Rob`	`friday and saturday nigths are the best for floozy hunting.`
`23:21.14`	`drray`	`strip clubs`
`23:21.28`	`drray`	`find a girl you like and axe her if she does private shows`
`23:21.32`	`Druken`	`figures drray would know where to find one :)`
`23:21.44`	`drray`	`if the money is right you can find what you desire`
`23:21.50`	`justinu`	`that sounds expensive, the trick is getting it for free`
`23:21.58`	`drray`	`it is never free`
`23:22.18`	`Druken`	`free == dating == lots more then $200`
`23:22.31`	`drray`	`and that's before you count your time`
`23:22.33`	`justinu`	`you guys must really go for the money grubbers then`
`23:22.34`	`Druken`	`better just pay the $200 and be done with it :)`
`23:22.57`	`X-Rob`	`$200?!#@`
`23:23.00`	`X-Rob`	`Geez.`
`23:23.06`	`drray`	`2oo canadian`
`23:23.07`	`X-Rob`	`Floozys are expensive over there.`
`23:23.12`	`X-Rob`	`S'pose it's coz it's illegal.`
`23:23.18`	`drray`	`it's not illegal in canada`
`23:23.25`	`X-Rob`	`not illegal in AU`
`23:23.29`	`drray`	`nor is it in Nevada`
`23:23.45`	`drray`	`you don't pay for sex anyway`
`23:23.47`	`X-Rob`	`and you can get a reasonable root for about AU$100`
`23:23.49`	`drray`	`you pay for them leave`
`23:23.53`	`X-Rob`	`heh`
`23:23.59`	`Druken`	`uhmm... prostituion is illegeal in canada...`
`23:24.14`	`Druken`	`hehe`
`23:24.22`	`drray`	`not functionaly`
`23:24.31`	`Druken`	`you pay for them to leave :) the sex is free`
`23:25.47`	`Druken`	`hmm... gettin hungry... i should find something to eat`
`23:26.03`	`drray`	`you should not pay for food`
`23:26.09`	`drray`	`you should get it for free`
`23:27.14`	`Druken`	`i agree... i say everyone give me food for free`
`23:28.36`	`Druken`	`FOOD FIGHT!!!!!`
`23:28.36`	`h0`	`um i keep getting this error "Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl exist?)`
`23:28.36`	`h0`	`"`
`23:28.52`	`X-Rob`	`h0, start asterisk`
`23:28.52`	`hads`	`does /var/run/asterisk.ctl exist?`
`23:30.11`	`h0`	`isn't asterisk -vvvvr supposed to start asterisk`
`23:30.17`	`X-Rob`	`no`
`23:30.17`	`Druken`	`remove the -r`
`23:30.20`	`X-Rob`	`that connects to asterisk`
`23:30.30`	`Druken`	`asterisk -vvvvvvvvvvc`
`23:31.20`	`X-Rob`	`yeah!`
`23:31.25`	`h0`	`sory im trying to figure this out`
`23:33.47`	`h0`	`anyone know a place where i can get the config files i need for a tdm400p`
`23:34.18`	`justinu`	`~docs`
`23:34.23`	`jbot`	`somebody said docs was probably Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html`
`23:34.45`	`X-Rob`	`~book`
`23:34.47`	`jbot`	`[book] a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`23:34.48`	`viking78`	`Or just try http://www.google.com/`
`23:34.57`	`X-Rob`	`h0, both of those things.`
`23:35.10`	`hads`	`and the sample configs in the asterisk source`
`23:40.31`	`Druken`	`tdm's.... icky`
`23:42.33`	`hads`	`You don't like Time Division Multiplexing?`
`23:42.44`	`Druken`	`hell no...`
`23:42.56`	`hads`	`Fair enough.`
`23:43.02`	`Druken`	`why devide time and them multiplex it? makes no damn sence :)`
`23:43.09`	`hads`	`heh.`
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`23:47.57`	`Druken`	`anyone got a working voice recongnition system ?`
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`23:52.14`	`viking78`	`Drunken: Yeah I put one in my dog`
`23:52.35`	`Druken`	`oh geez... i just beat mine...`
`23:52.48`	`rob0`	`I recognize voices sometimes ... not often tho.`
`23:53.13`	`rob0`	`(Hard to hear them above the racket of the voices in my head.)`
`23:53.57`	`Druken`	`nah.. i see dead people... :)`
`23:54.00`	`rob0`	`hmmm ... now there's a thought ... Imagined Voices over IP ... IVoIP`
`23:54.25`	`Druken`	`hehe`
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`23:56.22`	`Druken`	`oh shit, just what we need, another geek :)`
`23:57.22`	`viking78`	`Drunken, your on IRC, that automatically makes you a geek.`
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`23:57.39`	`Druken`	`either that or extremely stupid...`
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`23:58.12`	`Druken`	`possibly even a bit of both`
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