| 00:00.51 | [hC] | Strom_C: sorry, my internet crapped out. Did you say something about fxo tuning? |
| 00:01.11 | Un1x | :|||||| |
| 00:04.36 | Un1x | jeez wish i had a upload of 10megs :( 1meg sucks :( |
| 00:04.37 | rene1 | i meant to ask if you were interested in sip call generation |
| 00:04.55 | Un1x | no SIP CALL TRACE |
| 00:05.05 | Un1x | so i can find out what error comes back when someone trys to call my dids etc |
| 00:05.21 | rene1 | ethereal is a crude way to do it |
| 00:05.33 | rene1 | there should be other tools |
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| 00:06.50 | rene1 | there are applications that try to detect an answering machine talking |
| 00:07.13 | rene1 | would those apps succesfully detect a PBX IVR? |
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| 00:09.30 | rene1 | i believe there are sip plugins for ethereal that should make your life easier |
| 00:09.40 | rene1 | also try freshmeat there must be something there |
| 00:09.43 | Un1x | okays |
| 00:10.01 | rene1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictive_dialer |
| 00:10.03 | rene1 | sorry |
| 00:10.12 | rene1 | i meant: http://freshmeat.net/projects/wist/ |
| 00:10.24 | rene1 | that is a web based sip analiser |
| 00:10.43 | rene1 | a Web Interface for SIP Trace they call it |
| 00:11.05 | Un1x | nice |
| 00:11.06 | Un1x | thanks |
| 00:13.38 | diablopico | i guess someone answered my question earlier , but i didnt see it..... |
| 00:13.45 | diablopico | let me try again |
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| 00:15.12 | diablopico | * 1.0.7 with required versions of openh323/pwlib ---- call completes but has a 20 second delay before 2 way conversation works.. once it works , it works great |
| 00:16.03 | diablopico | but ..... it worked perfectly before i did a rebuild on openh323 /pwlib ,, that is the only thing done to the system before the delay started/ |
| 00:16.29 | diablopico | so caller id was not a problem before , it cannot be the problem now. |
| 00:16.39 | diablopico | can anyone help me now ????? |
| 00:16.43 | ManxPower | diablopico, I have never heard of that problem before, and I've been on this channel and on the mailing lists for a while. |
| 00:17.01 | aydiosmio | diablopico: maybe you should check other forums... maybe email the openh323 devs |
| 00:17.55 | diablopico | I have been checking out other forums for 2 days ,, no one has an answer ,, so i guess i am just screwed |
| 00:19.07 | diablopico | lesson learned ,, ,you get what you PAY for....... |
| 00:20.07 | ManxPower | diablopico, I think the actual lesson is to test on a separate server before deploying something into production. |
| 00:20.17 | aydiosmio | ooops. |
| 00:20.28 | ManxPower | diablopico, which H323 channel driver are you using? |
| 00:20.48 | aydiosmio | I'm sure some clever debugging could pinpoint the point of and cause of delay |
| 00:21.57 | ManxPower | There are at least 4 different OpenH323 channel drivers for Asterisk |
| 00:22.21 | diablopico | ManxPower: chan_h323 that comes with asterisk ... is that what you mean ? |
| 00:22.33 | ManxPower | diablopico, That is the NuFone H323 driver. |
| 00:22.57 | ManxPower | I don't think NuFone supports it anymore, but you can always e-mail them and ask them if they do for-pay consulting on it. |
| 00:23.28 | ManxPower | There is also the Objective Systems H323 driver, the Woomera H323 driver, and the H323 driver in asterisk-addons. |
| 00:23.45 | ManxPower | diablopico, 1.0.7 is rather old, not a lot of people use it anymore. |
| 00:23.56 | ManxPower | Obviously, you would prefer not to have to upgrade. |
| 00:25.07 | diablopico | ManxPower: the * box is not in production yet , i am trying to get it there . i need to use a modified version of Unicall with it , that is why i am using that version . |
| 00:25.17 | ManxPower | diablopico, *nod* |
| 00:25.39 | diablopico | ManxPower: do you know of a newer version that works with Unicall . |
| 00:25.47 | ManxPower | diablopico, Unfortunatly, the stuff you need (H323, MFC) are not part of the standard released Asterisk |
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| 00:27.11 | diablopico | ManxPower: i actually had it working perfectly ,, and some idiot took the server offline ... after that i needed a rebuild on opnh323 , and now i have a delay |
| 00:28.08 | ManxPower | diablopico, In the past, with other parts of Asterisk, those sorts of delays have sometimes been caused by DNS or /etc/hosts issues. |
| 00:28.41 | ManxPower | EVEN if you specify everything by IP address, since Asterisk tries to do a reverse lookup on the IPs of the interfaces in the machine. |
| 00:29.49 | diablopico | so possibly if i make some entries in hosts i can solve this ? |
| 00:36.33 | ManxPower | diablopico, how many ip addresses are on the system? |
| 00:38.20 | diablopico | 2 |
| 00:39.06 | diablopico | ManxPower: just 2 interfaces one to a db server , and one to the internet |
| 00:39.29 | ManxPower | make sure both addresses are listed in /etc/hosts |
| 00:39.56 | diablopico | ManxPower: ok ,, |
| 00:41.28 | diablopico | ManxPower: please remind me , do i have to restart something |
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| 00:42.00 | ManxPower | diablopico, you should not have to. |
| 00:42.06 | diablopico | ok ,, thanks |
| 00:42.10 | ManxPower | BTW, also make sure /etc/resolv.conf points to valid DNS servers |
| 00:42.23 | ManxPower | You can stop and start Asterisk JUST to be SURE. |
| 00:42.28 | diablopico | did that already |
| 00:43.06 | aydiosmio | diablopico: did you run ethereal or tcpdum pto see where the delay is in the IP stream? |
| 00:43.18 | aydiosmio | full debug asterisk to see where the delay is? |
| 00:44.46 | aydiosmio | ManxPower: forget that he needs to use an IP address for his SIP target |
| 00:47.19 | diablopico | not using sip ,, using H323 |
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| 00:50.46 | mwright1 | Can someone help me with server sizing? |
| 00:50.48 | mwright1 | please |
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| 00:51.55 | pokeypoke | Anyone know how to log off an agent in the event of status is 'CHANUNAVAIL' |
| 00:53.38 | pokeypoke | If there is only one agent logged in and they are unavailable due to network problem, the caller loops forever and it never drops out according to "leavewhenempty=strict". |
| 00:57.10 | FuriousGeorge | i switched providers today. my iax2 show peers says: asterlink (Unspecified) (S) 255.255.255.255 4569 Unmonitored |
| 00:57.33 | FuriousGeorge | why is it unspecified. i fed it switch.asterlink.com as per the configuration email |
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| 00:58.39 | FuriousGeorge | that would be in the configuration for the peer where i stuck the address |
| 00:58.56 | FuriousGeorge | when i make calls i get a "no route to host" and chan is unavail |
| 00:59.12 | mcreedjr | Hi all, I'm having a problem with the zaptel drivers (i think). When I modprobe wctdm, I get an error about "nobody cared" on an IRQ other that what the zaptel card is using. The zaptel doesn't appear to be taking interrupts and will not provide dialtone on an FXS port. |
| 00:59.25 | mcreedjr | Can someone please help? |
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| 01:06.43 | TripleFFFF | whats a pattern.. to complete.. 0115119 |
| 01:06.47 | TripleFFFF | like all that start with that |
| 01:07.07 | mcreedjr | _011. |
| 01:08.28 | TripleFFFF | so.. a dot ? |
| 01:08.33 | TripleFFFF | _0115119. |
| 01:08.41 | TripleFFFF | why the x |
| 01:08.54 | TripleFFFF | _0115119X.,1,blah ? |
| 01:09.11 | mcreedjr | . means match anything after, well the dot |
| 01:09.21 | mcreedjr | doesn't matter what numbers, or how many follow |
| 01:09.32 | TripleFFFF | then why a x ? |
| 01:09.37 | TripleFFFF | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.40 | SwK | 123X. means match at least 5 digits that start with 123 |
| 01:09.45 | TripleFFFF | oh |
| 01:09.48 | SwK | 123. means atleast 4 digits |
| 01:09.51 | TripleFFFF | padding |
| 01:09.59 | TripleFFFF | masking i should say |
| 01:10.01 | SwK | do you need the X? i dunno do you? |
| 01:10.06 | TripleFFFF | man they need to sue right wordings lol |
| 01:10.36 | TripleFFFF | So ... exten => 011511.,1, will match all peru and send to my rule |
| 01:10.49 | pokeypoke | Doesn't the . mean a repeat of the last pattern specified, so 123. would only match 1233? |
| 01:11.03 | SwK | if all peruvian numbers start with 011511 |
| 01:11.09 | TripleFFFF | kl |
| 01:11.10 | SwK | no |
| 01:11.29 | SwK | 123. would match the 4 digits or longer that start with 123 |
| 01:11.47 | TripleFFFF | so 1234 |
| 01:11.48 | TripleFFFF | 12345 |
| 01:11.49 | TripleFFFF | 123456 |
| 01:11.50 | SwK | so it would match 1239 or 1238 or 12399 or 123999 etc |
| 01:11.51 | TripleFFFF | 12345555 |
| 01:11.51 | pokeypoke | Okay |
| 01:11.52 | TripleFFFF | etc |
| 01:12.03 | TripleFFFF | hmm sorry for TRiple enters |
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| 01:16.03 | mcreedjr | Anyone care to help me diagnose a Zaptel IRQ problem... It's been driving me nuts. |
| 01:16.13 | mcreedjr | I would really appreciate the help. |
| 01:18.14 | mcreedjr | When I modprobe wctdm, I get a dmesg error stating "irq 11: nobody cared"... but the zaptel card isn't on irq 11 |
| 01:18.23 | mcreedjr | I don't understand how they're related. |
| 01:21.47 | SwK | For Sell: APX8000 w/ a DS3 interface, 8 T1 interfaces, Dual Shelf controllers w/ 320M Flash Cards, 627 DSPs, expandable to handle 4 DS3s and 2688 DSPs 110AC or 48DC Power msg me for further details (sorry for the spam everyone I just need to move this thing) |
| 01:24.13 | houdini | What's a good way to learn AGI/Perl? |
| 01:25.48 | SwK | just do it |
| 01:25.58 | EvilDeshi | swk how much does something like that cost |
| 01:26.00 | SwK | or visit voip-info.org and look at the examples there ;) |
| 01:26.12 | SwK | evildeshi: asking 20K USD |
| 01:26.17 | EvilDeshi | wow |
| 01:26.22 | mcreedjr | or buy the o'reilly asterisk: future of telephony book |
| 01:26.27 | EvilDeshi | wish i knew a damn thing about all that |
| 01:26.28 | mcreedjr | it's got a section on AGI and perl |
| 01:27.15 | TripleFFFF | hmm |
| 01:27.42 | SwK | evildeshi its basically 4 MAX-TNT's in a Single chasis for "megapop" of SIP|H323 -> TDM and Dialup applications |
| 01:27.57 | SwK | (its similar to an AS5800 from cisco |
| 01:28.25 | EvilDeshi | im so new to this realm man |
| 01:28.31 | EvilDeshi | im about maybe 48 hours realy into it |
| 01:29.17 | SwK | EvilDeshi: its a Carrier Class TDM (legacy telco) to VoIP you still need a call router like Asterisk (or some other VoIP Switch) to go with it |
| 01:29.19 | EvilDeshi | my next goal is to hook up * to my ham radio |
| 01:29.42 | EvilDeshi | swk ok that makes sense |
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| 01:37.20 | sevard | EvilDeshi: as far as I know hooking your * box up to your ham radio is illegal |
| 01:37.36 | sevard | using ham radio to negate the costs of Bell is a crime |
| 01:37.42 | sevard | iirc. |
| 01:38.23 | sevard | well, hooking it up isn't illegal, but using it to make long distance calls is. |
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| 01:39.51 | SwK | using it for a phone patch is not |
| 01:40.20 | SwK | people have used phone patches for years legally |
| 01:43.01 | aydiosmio | yeah |
| 01:43.06 | aydiosmio | but, it's stupid. |
| 01:43.24 | SwK | it wasnt stupid before cell phones had the penetration they do now |
| 01:43.28 | aydiosmio | TDMoE for the win. |
| 01:43.51 | aydiosmio | you're just upset cause ham is dead. |
| 01:44.02 | aydiosmio | it's okay |
| 01:44.04 | SwK | ham is not dead |
| 01:44.07 | aydiosmio | there are 12 step programs |
| 01:44.16 | SwK | only a moron would think that |
| 01:44.17 | Un1x | i gotta order a TDM400P sometime when i get more cash lol |
| 01:44.19 | aydiosmio | no really, i have a phoen number here |
| 01:44.20 | EvilDeshi | ham is far from dead |
| 01:44.23 | Un1x | coz imma make one more asterisk server :D |
| 01:44.45 | EvilDeshi | <--kc9jbo |
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| 01:45.08 | W9SH | ok so let's have all the amateur radio operators step forward and be polite. who else is out there? |
| 01:46.00 | W9SH | jbo. got irlp? |
| 01:46.16 | aydiosmio | lighten up. |
| 01:46.20 | EvilDeshi | W9SH dont know what you mean |
| 01:46.42 | W9SH | It's the Internet Radio Linking Project. |
| 01:46.46 | EvilDeshi | oh yeah |
| 01:46.48 | EvilDeshi | echolink? |
| 01:46.52 | aydiosmio | ham internet relay |
| 01:46.55 | W9SH | but better |
| 01:47.11 | EvilDeshi | sweet i need to find out about that i have only been a ham since march |
| 01:47.12 | W9SH | my old qth was indy but now atl |
| 01:47.25 | EvilDeshi | nowhere wisconsin here |
| 01:47.37 | W9SH | ah. grandpa was from appleton |
| 01:47.42 | EvilDeshi | thats not far |
| 01:47.56 | EvilDeshi | i need a real rig though to do anything decent |
| 01:48.02 | EvilDeshi | i just have a yaesu ft-2800m |
| 01:48.07 | W9SH | check out irlp.net if there is a node near you, connect to mine in atl |
| 01:48.22 | EvilDeshi | i doubt there will be a node |
| 01:48.28 | EvilDeshi | im lucky i found an echolink node |
| 01:48.35 | W9SH | jim dixon of zaptel fame is an amateur radio op |
| 01:48.50 | W9SH | k |
| 01:49.04 | EvilDeshi | so is kevin mitnick |
| 01:49.16 | W9SH | so now that i've broken in, how about an asterisk question. |
| 01:49.51 | W9SH | i need to use linux 2.4 in an application cause there is some other hardware that has to be in the box that only runs w/2.4 |
| 01:50.14 | W9SH | anyone have any OS preferences to recommend? |
| 01:50.14 | [TK]D-Fender | W9SH: * works just fine on 2.4 |
| 01:50.22 | [TK]D-Fender | W9SH: Slackware. Still counts 2.4 as its default kernel. |
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| 01:50.37 | W9SH | i figured but what flavor to pick. gotta do some heavy development on the box |
| 01:50.46 | EvilDeshi | yeah it didnt find anything |
| 01:50.48 | [TK]D-Fender | W9SH: but you can use any sane distro you feel comfortable with. Thats the objective |
| 01:50.53 | SwK | RHEL3 world fine with a 2.4 kernel just pick your favorite flavor and have at it |
| 01:51.02 | EvilDeshi | i use debian with my server |
| 01:51.02 | SwK | s/world/works/ |
| 01:51.15 | SwK | hah |
| 01:51.22 | SwK | damn jbot down with the sed |
| 01:51.28 | W9SH | i was leaning towards the rhel3 glad to hear someone else chime in on it |
| 01:51.29 | [TK]D-Fender | W9SH: Heavy development is funny to hear with 2.4 :) Any one you can get 2.4 to run on should do as long as you have all your dependencies covered. |
| 01:51.49 | [TK]D-Fender | W9SH: CentOS ;) |
| 01:51.56 | W9SH | hey gotta jump out. late dinner with the fam here. back later. |
| 01:52.58 | EvilDeshi | yeah W9SH nothing in my range on 2m or 70cm |
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| 01:53.33 | sevard | centos is ass. |
| 01:53.36 | sevard | sorry. it sucks. |
| 01:54.07 | [TK]D-Fender | sevard: CentOS = RHEL.. Same deal. |
| 01:54.30 | [TK]D-Fender | sevard: Don't know why you'd think so. its a distro like the rest... you can do what you need with it. |
| 01:55.40 | aydiosmio | CentOS wins VIA C3 |
| 01:56.23 | rene1 | how it wins VIA C3? |
| 01:56.29 | aydiosmio | it wins well |
| 01:56.36 | rene1 | isnt c3 a hardware platform? |
| 01:56.39 | aydiosmio | I'm running CentOS 4.3 on EPIA |
| 01:56.56 | rene1 | ahh |
| 01:56.57 | rene1 | cool |
| 01:57.47 | [TK]D-Fender | C3 = LOSE :) Ask Dlynes..... |
| 01:58.02 | aydiosmio | Ask me |
| 01:58.11 | aydiosmio | I'm running an Asterisk server on an EPIA |
| 01:58.30 | [TK]D-Fender | aydiosmio: Don't try it with digium hardware aparently... |
| 01:58.34 | aydiosmio | granted using i586 drivers |
| 01:59.03 | aydiosmio | it works fine, you just can't use i686 binaries |
| 02:01.35 | rene1 | D-Fender; i want to send callers to join a queue for a max time of X and when this time X has come have asterisk hangup on them, is it possible? |
| 02:01.40 | [TK]D-Fender | Still hard to validate over MATX. Few cases to support it at its most minimal |
| 02:01.47 | aydiosmio | rene1: 1-900 number? |
| 02:02.02 | rene1 | ? |
| 02:02.04 | [TK]D-Fender | rene1: Sure, just use the Timeout passed to Queue from extensions.conf |
| 02:02.36 | rene1 | nope predictive dialer silent call hangup time |
| 02:02.44 | rene1 | D-Fender: thanks |
| 02:02.59 | rene1 | aydiosmio: that is how i get started with * BTW setting up a 1-900 |
| 02:03.02 | rene1 | hehe |
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| 02:04.09 | aydiosmio | lolsex |
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| 02:10.04 | Malthus | hi all |
| 02:10.44 | Un1x | lol |
| 02:11.00 | Malthus | whats the proper db schema when using res_odbc_config in trunk? |
| 02:11.00 | Un1x | shit man |
| 02:11.05 | Un1x | i wanna setup voicemail |
| 02:11.15 | Malthus | whats in the readme seems wrong |
| 02:11.18 | Un1x | but isn't there a wya it could save msgs to like Harddrive in .gsm or some format |
| 02:11.22 | Un1x | rather then emailing them to me? |
| 02:11.59 | Malthus | I think voicemail gets saved to the harddrive on the asterisk server |
| 02:12.10 | Malthus | look in /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail |
| 02:14.53 | rene1 | disable email notification in /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf and choose VM recording format as gsm |
| 02:17.28 | Un1x | rene1: will it still play if i turn on my phone and enter extension for voicemail will it still play, the files... |
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| 02:17.36 | Un1x | or will iu need to play them off the server via command line? |
| 02:17.40 | Un1x | ~voicemail |
| 02:17.51 | rene1 | it will still play |
| 02:17.54 | rene1 | i mean |
| 02:18.10 | rene1 | if you can hear them now they should be in /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail |
| 02:18.32 | rene1 | you can disable email notificationif you dont need it |
| 02:19.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Un1x: * VoiceMail normally stores on the server in the folder mentioned in whatever format you told it to (default is GSM). E-mailing is completely optional. Upon so doing even KEEPING the VM is optional. |
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| 02:42.17 | mfdutra | what's the best solution for tunnel/vpn to link two asterisks (iax) with nat between them? |
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| 02:43.38 | mtgh | ssh |
| 02:46.42 | mfdutra | how about the overhead? |
| 02:49.34 | mtgh | its not bad...but not great....however, it is the easiet way to do it |
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| 03:11.42 | Flauto | it is very quiet here |
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| 03:19.32 | evilbit | hi, I need to record all calls coming into my * box. Is this best way to use MixMonitor? And can I save the files based upon ext and datetime? |
| 03:26.20 | Flauto | quiet |
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| 03:37.32 | bugz | ~seen kpettit |
| 03:37.45 | jbot | kpettit <n=keith@69.15.174.114> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 12h 7m 47s ago, saying: 'ManxPower, ughh hI found it. Some individual peers had it'. |
| 03:37.46 | bugz | ~seen mercestes |
| 03:37.50 | jbot | mercestes <n=Merceste@216.54.143.2> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 1d 6h 52m 53s ago, saying: 'obiwanmikenolte: j/k sometimes helps.'. |
| 03:42.10 | *** join/#asterisk threat2 (n=threat@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 03:42.20 | threat2 | Morning |
| 03:42.33 | threat2 | is this the user channel or the development channel ? |
| 03:42.38 | *** join/#asterisk hohum (n=dcorbe@69-175-203-11.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 03:43.06 | stereofan | good question |
| 03:43.48 | stereofan | there's something in the topic about trixbox and freepbx, but I'm too new to this to understand it yet |
| 03:44.01 | *** join/#asterisk carmen (i=ix@c-24-60-193-83.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 03:44.05 | russellb | this is the user channel :) |
| 03:44.38 | russellb | freepbx is an asterisk gui, and trixbox is a linux distro that packages freepbx with asterisk |
| 03:44.57 | carmen | anyone know if theres a linux app that can register to 2 asterisks at once or at least automatically switch? since i use voxbone for incoming and teliax for outgoing, both Ekiga and Twinkle require switching profiles before and after making calls |
| 03:45.19 | carmen | yeah what is that freepbx thing |
| 03:45.22 | carmen | an asterisk fork? |
| 03:45.24 | carmen | why does it exist? |
| 03:45.28 | russellb | i just told you |
| 03:45.33 | Agrajag- | carmen: twinkle should do what you just said? |
| 03:45.34 | russellb | read what i said |
| 03:45.35 | carmen | oh |
| 03:45.50 | carmen | Agrajag-: it requires changing the user profile, and creating two users, one for each of hte incoming/outgoing accts, afaik |
| 03:45.51 | Agrajag- | carmen: twinkle can have 2 active accounts at once, you dont have to switch profile |
| 03:45.54 | carmen | ok |
| 03:46.00 | carmen | i'll reinstall it.. |
| 03:46.02 | carmen | muyst have missed that :) |
| 03:46.17 | carmen | my other problem was it didnt actualy popup a modal dialog above other windows |
| 03:46.21 | carmen | ekiga manages to do that at least |
| 03:46.28 | carmen | mybe that was a WM issue, who knows |
| 03:46.39 | *** join/#asterisk hohum (n=dcorbe@69-175-203-11.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 03:46.55 | Agrajag- | when there's an incoming call? it has a kde popup thing for me (from the systray.. and i dont use kde) |
| 03:47.04 | carmen | but unlike ekiga, it actually plays the entire stream, eg connecting to voicemail, you dont even hear the asterisk lady say 'password' in ekiga..really wierd |
| 03:47.07 | *** join/#asterisk Floodbar (n=Flood@ip68-12-150-145.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 03:47.28 | Agrajag- | i've found twinkle to be by far the best softphone for linux |
| 03:47.51 | Agrajag- | iaxcomm would be good except that i get a delay (i believe because it uses oss not alsa) |
| 03:48.03 | carmen | anyone think mobile companies will ever offer a data-only plan. so we can use SIP-compatible cellphones and our own phone service? |
| 03:48.11 | *** join/#asterisk ionix (n=ionix@p3101-ipbfp05miyazaki.miyazaki.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 03:48.12 | carmen | i mean, a cheap data-only plan |
| 03:48.15 | carmen | per-byte, or whatever |
| 03:48.23 | carmen | not this $80 crap geared towards web-cruising executives |
| 03:49.11 | ionix | Hello, I am using asterisk to make an outbound call. I send it to an extension that loads a DEADAGI. The problem is that if the person doesn't pickup the phone or the phone is busy, it doesn't load the AGI. how can I make it so that if the customer is busy or not answering, I have a script that runs? |
| 03:51.03 | sumasuma | hi |
| 03:51.14 | sumasuma | when a device try to register in asterisk |
| 03:51.44 | sumasuma | asterisk sends the contact with lan ip address sip:user@192.168.0.101 |
| 03:52.02 | sumasuma | i have nat=yes option enabled |
| 03:52.19 | *** join/#asterisk |dennis| (n=dennis@200.32.215.82) |
| 03:53.36 | Floodbar | sumasuma what are you trying to accomplish? are you trying to connect a sip device thru an asterisk box that is behind a firewall |
| 03:53.48 | sumasuma | yes |
| 03:54.01 | Floodbar | IAX is far easier |
| 03:54.08 | Floodbar | it only uses one udp port |
| 03:54.13 | Floodbar | and it nat's well |
| 03:54.27 | sumasuma | but i have only sip device |
| 03:54.45 | Floodbar | but if you are trying to use sip look up sip proxies and sip ports |
| 03:54.50 | Floodbar | what sip device do you have |
| 03:54.54 | *** join/#asterisk vaddineni (n=vaddinen@cpe-72-181-71-206.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 03:54.56 | sumasuma | sipura 3000 |
| 03:55.02 | sumasuma | it is the problem with asterisk |
| 03:55.05 | sumasuma | not sipura |
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| 03:56.16 | Floodbar | correct me if I am wrong but I believe its a problem with natting and how many ports have to be open across the firewall |
| 03:56.41 | sumasuma | The contact in the register authentication is sent wrong |
| 03:56.49 | Floodbar | hmm |
| 03:57.04 | sumasuma | it sent with local ip address |
| 03:57.44 | bugz | hey fellas i got a doctors office wanting to pay me $75/hr to fix all their polycoms! |
| 03:57.55 | Floodbar | cool |
| 03:58.06 | ManxPower | Um, if Asterisk is sending to the private IP address then the incoming call is NOT matching a sip.conf [section] |
| 03:58.25 | ManxPower | bugz, how much of that will you share with the people that help you? |
| 03:58.35 | sumasuma | Manxpower: i have given nat=yes in the section |
| 03:58.49 | ManxPower | sumasuma, notice I said it's not matching. |
| 03:58.53 | ManxPower | not that you didn't have it. |
| 03:59.17 | sumasuma | MansPower: Asterisk replies properly saying to send the device with authentication information |
| 03:59.20 | ManxPower | sumasuma, Do this: context=INVALID in [general] then the correct context= in each of the sip.conf [sections] |
| 03:59.22 | sumasuma | *ManxPower |
| 03:59.36 | bugz | ManxPower: seriously i have at least 100 hours of work to do |
| 03:59.48 | michaelo | sumasuma, do you have the Nat and Stun setting enabled in your spa3000? |
| 03:59.53 | ManxPower | I'll bet the call will come into the INVALID context, which will prove that the incoming request from the SIPura is not matching the sip.conf entry you are expecting it to match. |
| 04:00.04 | *** join/#asterisk Biks (n=rohit@12-217-51-236.client.mchsi.com) |
| 04:00.10 | ManxPower | you do not want NAT settings on the SIPura and you do not want STUN set on the SIPura. |
| 04:00.15 | sumasuma | ManxPower: between asterisk servers itself it is not working |
| 04:00.23 | sumasuma | ManxPower: not with sipura alone |
| 04:00.29 | bugz | for i in phone.*.cfg ; do sed -i -e '/reg.*.server.1.address/s/address=\"\"/address=\"10.1.2.10\"/;s/server.1.port=\"\"/server.1.port=\"5060\"/;s/server.1.register=\"\"/server.1.register=\"1\"/;s/server.1.transport=\"\"/server.1.transport=\"DNSNaptr\"/' $i; done |
| 04:00.33 | bugz | w00t |
| 04:01.03 | ManxPower | bugz, actually it would be in *-phone.cfg |
| 04:01.20 | ManxPower | sumasuma, sounds like you have your sip.conf seriously screwed up. |
| 04:01.23 | michaelo | ok, do you have your externip and localnet addresses configured in sip.conf |
| 04:01.46 | bugz | ManxPower: what? |
| 04:01.47 | sumasuma | what is the meaning of nat=yes for ? |
| 04:01.49 | ManxPower | sumasuma, Is Asterisk behind NAT? or just the SIP endpoints? |
| 04:02.00 | bugz | that would change the wrong file |
| 04:02.05 | bugz | i dont have that stuff in the mac.cfg file |
| 04:02.09 | sumasuma | Asteriks is behind NAT and port is opened |
| 04:02.26 | ManxPower | sumasuma, nat=yes means "ignore the private IP in the SIP SDP and use the IP address in the packet header. |
| 04:02.37 | ManxPower | bugz, silly me. It's getting late. |
| 04:02.49 | bugz | ManxPower: you're fired! |
| 04:02.53 | ManxPower | sumasuma, put your sip.conf on pastebin.ca, but be quick about it, I'm going to bed shortly. |
| 04:02.54 | sumasuma | ManxPower: how about the contact ip? |
| 04:02.55 | bugz | its never getting late.. |
| 04:02.59 | Biks | I am newbie in Asterisk and Voip in general. I have 1.)Pc with softphone 2) Quintum Gateway 3)Asterisk Box. I want Asterisk function as Gatekeeper. The softphone is registered with the Asterisk and I can exchange calls between two softphones. Now I need to route all the calls, whatever the number is dialed, to the the Quintum gateway. Any help of link will be appriciated. Thanks |
| 04:03.16 | ManxPower | sumasuma, nat=yes ONLY applies to remote devices behind remote NAT routers. |
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| 04:03.52 | ManxPower | sumasuma, "contact IP" would be included in "SIP SDP" for this discussion |
| 04:04.48 | sumasuma | http://pastebin.ca/123225 |
| 04:04.53 | ManxPower | Ugh. I need a beer, if I have to look at someone's sip.conf |
| 04:05.09 | sumasuma | my sip.conf is clean |
| 04:06.19 | Biks | guys, any solution for my problem ?? |
| 04:06.49 | ManxPower | sumasuma, your sip.conf looks like a windows .ini file. |
| 04:07.00 | ManxPower | sumasuma, Is Asterisk behind NAT or is just your SIP devices behind nat? |
| 04:07.23 | sumasuma | asterisk is also behind nat and device is also behind nat |
| 04:07.49 | ManxPower | sumasuma, then I need to know what the external IP of your router is as well as the network and netmask of your internal network. |
| 04:09.03 | sumasuma | Manxpower: the ip address always changes |
| 04:09.12 | sumasuma | Manxpower: It is a dynamic ip |
| 04:09.20 | ManxPower | sumasuma, for right now, make sure it does not change. |
| 04:09.22 | sumasuma | Manxpower: the local network is 192.168.0.* |
| 04:09.43 | Floodbar | manx what do you think may fix it. Everytime I have searched for this its either sip proxy being the solution or use iax or set up a vpn tunnel. |
| 04:09.57 | sumasuma | ManxPower: 218.186.181.233 |
| 04:10.00 | ManxPower | Floodbar, what is your problem |
| 04:10.19 | sumasuma | netmask: 255.255.255.0 |
| 04:10.20 | ManxPower | sumasuma, http://pastebin.ca/123232 |
| 04:10.36 | ManxPower | then do a "reload chan_sip.so" in the Asterisk CLI |
| 04:10.40 | Floodbar | I am following your solution to sumasuma's deal |
| 04:10.59 | ManxPower | Floodbar, sumasuma is using SIP. |
| 04:11.03 | ManxPower | Are you using IAX2? |
| 04:11.05 | Floodbar | I don't have a problem at the moment other than I am nosey |
| 04:11.15 | Floodbar | no suma is using sip |
| 04:11.35 | ManxPower | Floodbar, Asterisk behind NAT is trivial IF you understand NAT, networking, and SIP. |
| 04:11.41 | ManxPower | Floodbar, look at the pastebin I gave him. |
| 04:11.46 | ManxPower | sumasuma, Does it work? |
| 04:12.29 | ManxPower | It took me all of 30 mins to set it up the first time and I could have my SIPura roam between NATted and non-NATted networks without issues. |
| 04:12.42 | ManxPower | GRANTED, I had a static IP, which makes things 10 times easier. |
| 04:13.43 | Floodbar | did you have to open up more ports than just 5060 to make it work assuming it was behind a firewall |
| 04:13.47 | ManxPower | I should offer to do a demo at Astricon of Asterisk behind NAT w/SIPura roaming between local network, external NAT network, and external public IP. |
| 04:14.09 | sumasuma | ManxPower: sip always sucks up with the dns settings, i'm trying to improve but no help, working on it |
| 04:14.30 | ManxPower | Floodbar, I had to open UDP 5060 and I set Asterisk (via rtp.conf) and the SIPura to use ports 16384 - 16393 |
| 04:14.43 | Floodbar | cool |
| 04:14.46 | ManxPower | Those are the default ports Cisco Phones use and it was an easy range for me to remember |
| 04:14.48 | Floodbar | that is what I thought |
| 04:14.58 | ManxPower | oh, and I had to port forward on my router, of course. |
| 04:15.26 | Floodbar | the reason I said IAX is because you only open one hole in the firewall |
| 04:15.29 | ManxPower | sumasuma, did the sip.conf I gave you work? |
| 04:15.36 | ManxPower | Floodbar, Yeah, IAX is nice like that. |
| 04:16.02 | ManxPower | I miss my Asterisk minilab and my static IP |
| 04:17.09 | stereofan | minilab? |
| 04:17.43 | Floodbar | I have thought about setting up a lab at home with asterisk but just haven't done it |
| 04:17.47 | ManxPower | stereofan, I had an Asterisk semi-production server, a Cisco phone, a Polycom Phone, a Cisco router, 2 SIPura ATAs and a SIPura phone. |
| 04:18.08 | ManxPower | Most of it survived Katrina, but most of it is still in storage. |
| 04:18.09 | Floodbar | didn't use any softphones |
| 04:18.19 | ManxPower | ALL SOFTPHONES SUCK. |
| 04:18.20 | evilbit | if I have a section [extensions] can I make a default for all numbered extensions something like exten => s,1,playback(pls-wait-connect-call)? |
| 04:18.24 | sumasuma | Manxpower: the contact is ok, but registration is not successful |
| 04:18.27 | Floodbar | haha |
| 04:18.30 | ManxPower | Floodbar, Softphones give Asterisk a bad reputation. |
| 04:18.41 | ManxPower | sumasuma, pastebin the error message. |
| 04:18.59 | Floodbar | interesting |
| 04:19.10 | ManxPower | sumasuma, so we solved your major issue, that's good. |
| 04:19.35 | sumasuma | Manxpower: yes, will look into the problem |
| 04:19.38 | Floodbar | I use two different softphones at work and my coworkers love using them |
| 04:19.48 | ManxPower | sumasuma, just pastebin the CLI output of the error. |
| 04:20.15 | ManxPower | Floodbar, Softphones REALLY depend on the quality of your sound card and the stability of the OS. |
| 04:20.27 | Floodbar | and your mic and speakers |
| 04:20.28 | sumasuma | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.28 | sumasuma | Aug 9 05:13:19 WARNING[9026]: chan_sip.c:730 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 507ed7ab2eb141f241b71efb79e2a9e3@127.0.0.1 for seqno 117 (Critical Request) |
| 04:20.45 | sumasuma | manxPower: this is on the Asterisk UA side |
| 04:20.47 | Floodbar | I had to buy headphones for my axim so that I quit getting echo |
| 04:20.50 | Floodbar | but it worked |
| 04:21.12 | stereofan | Hmm -- I'm just getting into all this; I used to follow some of the phreaker 'zines, but the flood of info was a bit overwhelming... |
| 04:21.20 | *** join/#asterisk ToyMan (n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:21.21 | sumasuma | Manxpower: can you try from your UA to register with my asterisk ? |
| 04:21.46 | ManxPower | sumasuma, I'm confused. You have a remote Asterisk registering via SIP to your local Asterisk? |
| 04:22.30 | sumasuma | Manxpower: yes, i want to solve that first, then come to sipura |
| 04:22.42 | docelm0 | Can I get level2 support in #asterisk-dev? |
| 04:22.46 | ManxPower | sumasuma, pastebin the register line |
| 04:22.55 | sumasuma | Manxpower: since handling with asterisk is easy than handling with sipura |
| 04:23.23 | ManxPower | sumasuma, chances are you did not forward port 5060/UDP on your local router to your local asterisk box |
| 04:24.15 | sumasuma | i'm receiving incoming calls from other sip providers |
| 04:24.25 | sumasuma | i can checke with ethereal |
| 04:24.30 | ManxPower | stereofan, There is one piece of advice I can give you that will save you hours and hours of problems. |
| 04:24.34 | sumasuma | it is returning 401 unauthorized |
| 04:24.38 | stereofan | Are there any good, in-depth overviews of computer-integrated telephony, the way that, say, Winn L. Rosch puts out a regular "hardware bible" for pc's? |
| 04:24.39 | ManxPower | sumasuma, I'm still waiting for the register line. |
| 04:26.00 | sumasuma | ManxPower: http://pastebin.ca/123242 |
| 04:26.04 | ManxPower | The advice is this: If you fight Asterisk you will hate Asterisk. If you accept Asterisk's oddities and work within them you will love Asterisk. |
| 04:26.30 | Floodbar | hahaha |
| 04:26.36 | Floodbar | I love it |
| 04:26.36 | ManxPower | sumasuma, what does the local server SIP debug show? |
| 04:26.53 | sumasuma | 82.68.136.116 |
| 04:27.03 | sumasuma | it is on the internet |
| 04:27.07 | sumasuma | not on NAT |
| 04:27.24 | stereofan | I'm prepared to love it <grin> I've been slowly ridding myself of the "MicroBaits" of the world and am trying to make a concerted effort to switch up everything over to open source |
| 04:27.31 | ManxPower | sumasuma, what server did I give you the sip.conf for? |
| 04:27.43 | ManxPower | diagram it. |
| 04:28.01 | sumasuma | it is for asterisk to act as a proxy |
| 04:28.04 | ManxPower | simple text diagram is ok. |
| 04:28.13 | ManxPower | sumasuma, proxy? no need to be vulgar. |
| 04:28.27 | sumasuma | Asterisk Server |
| 04:28.49 | sumasuma | Not for UA |
| 04:28.56 | sumasuma | clear ? |
| 04:29.00 | *** join/#asterisk Xen^ (n=linux@202.5.145.56) |
| 04:29.26 | Floodbar | way to go stereofan. Is your desktop still windows |
| 04:29.33 | Floodbar | or is it all command line |
| 04:30.19 | ManxPower | sumasuma, I'm going to go outside for a quick smoke. remove the register line from the asterisk server on the public IP and give me an extension to call that executes Playback(demo-congrats) |
| 04:30.20 | stereofan | I'm using my mother's pc now (with xp :( ) -- but I have a fresh Pentium IV waiting for me when I get back from vacation. |
| 04:30.34 | ManxPower | I'll be back shortly. I assume the diagram is this: |
| 04:30.54 | stereofan | Even that, I regard as not quite what I want.. but it's free and I am $$ poor right now... |
| 04:30.56 | ManxPower | Asterisk -> Local Network -> NAT Router -> Internet -> SIP Device (or Asterisk) on Public IP. |
| 04:31.05 | Floodbar | I hear ya |
| 04:31.19 | sumasuma | ManxPower: I will get it ready for you |
| 04:31.34 | Floodbar | I use XP for the GUI but all my servers run pure command line |
| 04:31.54 | Floodbar | XP runs my games |
| 04:32.21 | stereofan | The REAL trial will be this little practice project I've got in the works to teach myself hardware/software and telemetry -- an interactive chromakey exhibition for public attractions at the county fairs and festivals |
| 04:32.39 | stereofan | heh |
| 04:32.45 | stereofan | good choice, I suppose |
| 04:37.13 | stereofan | I mean the XP GUI for games |
| 04:37.32 | Floodbar | yeah |
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| 04:38.01 | Floodbar | chromakey sounds interesting |
| 04:38.12 | Floodbar | I was researching it never heard of it |
| 04:38.16 | ManxPower | sumasuma, are you seeing Reginstration fails on your side? |
| 04:38.25 | sumasuma | Manxpower: yes |
| 04:38.42 | sumasuma | Manxpower: Wrong Password |
| 04:39.30 | stereofan | Yeah, I'll be running linux microkernel over an adeos nanokernel on fpga chips with a smart antenna to create a realtime operating system that can reconfigure to different communications standards on-the-fly |
| 04:39.52 | Floodbar | wow |
| 04:40.15 | stereofan | the tough part is figuring out if/how to include an internet up/downlink for patching and image archiving over, probably, gprs |
| 04:40.29 | stereofan | don't suppose asterisk does anything with gprs, does it? |
| 04:40.36 | ManxPower | sumasuma, double check your sip.conf on your side, I just reentered the password to be the same as the userid, still fails. |
| 04:40.40 | Floodbar | what is gprs |
| 04:41.08 | Floodbar | are you making a new rtos |
| 04:41.12 | stereofan | general packet radio service -- it's related to the gsm cell phone standard, but I don't know enough yet |
| 04:41.35 | ManxPower | Floodbar, it's a cellular data protocol, it stands for God! Persistantly Really Slow! |
| 04:41.46 | Floodbar | hah |
| 04:41.57 | Floodbar | you are just a wealth of knowledge manx |
| 04:42.21 | ManxPower | sumasuma, hold on, I actually have to make up a cable with RJ-11 ends on it to plug the phone into my SIPura. |
| 04:42.28 | ManxPower | No, I don't have any already made up. |
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| 04:42.52 | stereofan | I'm just starting to delve into the stuff |
| 04:43.03 | sumasuma | ManxPower: Ok, i will wait for you |
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| 04:44.06 | ComputerWarm | hello |
| 04:44.13 | ComputerWarm | anyone here using h323 or ooh323? |
| 04:44.49 | *** join/#asterisk |dennis| (n=dennis@200.32.215.82) |
| 04:45.57 | ComputerWarm | Does anyone know how to resolve this error??:2839 h323_convertAsteriskCapToH323Cap: Don't know how to deal with mode 0x40 (slin) |
| 04:47.11 | Floodbar | good luck stereofan |
| 04:47.17 | Floodbar | I am out of here |
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| 04:49.55 | stereofan | Hmm, yeah, well -- I was thinking about managing an always-on connect with the device, so slowness isn't that much an issue, I think -- unless it turns out to not be cost-effective |
| 04:50.09 | stereofan | Haven't worked out the economics of it yet |
| 04:51.24 | stereofan | Funny, though, lol -- like FIAT stands for Fix It All the Time ;) |
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| 04:54.42 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o Qwell] by ChanServ |
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| 04:58.01 | ManxPower | Eureka, it works! |
| 04:58.20 | dos000 | haha |
| 04:58.42 | sumasuma | Manxpower: yes |
| 04:58.50 | ManxPower | Sorry for the /join and /parts, my SIPura is also my NAT router. |
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| 04:59.41 | Zorix | is there any free callout service so i can dial 9+number? |
| 04:59.48 | Zorix | using iax2 or something |
| 05:01.02 | f | no but voipjet/voxee are incredibly cheap. and skyp if you dont mind a nonfree protocol |
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| 05:02.28 | ManxPower | does anyone know how to do a screen shot in Windows? |
| 05:02.43 | sumasuma | ManxPower: printscreen |
| 05:02.48 | L|NUX | press : print screen button |
| 05:03.06 | Zorix | hmm |
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| 05:03.35 | L|NUX | hey adorah |
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| 05:07.29 | ManxPower | As you can see, I don't do much graphics work |
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| 05:19.47 | ComputerWarm | question |
| 05:20.07 | ComputerWarm | using ooh323 and h323 call connects and as soon as it connects it hangs up |
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| 05:20.17 | ComputerWarm | what could the cause of this be... i know its an asterisk issue |
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| 05:21.19 | ComputerWarm | ?? |
| 05:23.08 | ANTILOCAS | does anybody knows if TDM400p card comes with voice recognition or inverse polarity |
| 05:23.16 | ANTILOCAS | ? |
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| 05:32.23 | Shaun2222 | how can one know if the dial plan is being pulled from mysql correctly. |
| 05:34.44 | Shaun2222 | also getting this message for just about any line i put in the extconfig.conf |
| 05:34.46 | Shaun2222 | parse error: No category context for line 6 of extconfig.conf |
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| 05:39.18 | hads | Shaun2222: I know nothing about realtime but 'show dialplan' from the CLI will show you the dialplan. |
| 05:39.46 | FuriousGeorge | anyone know if i can follow my register with a /context like in sip.conf, to route incoming calls to a specific context? |
| 05:40.10 | FuriousGeorge | register => user:pass@switch.provider.com/incoming |
| 05:40.11 | FuriousGeorge | like that |
| 05:41.02 | Shaun2222 | that no category error is because i'm a idiot and forgot to add [settings] to the top of the filel.. |
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| 05:42.16 | Shaun2222 | FuriousGeorge: not sure, i think your suppose to just register with the provider and then you have a category/context setup telling it what to use. |
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| 05:42.49 | jhamlyn | :-) |
| 05:43.18 | jhamlyn | Hi all, any suggestion for the follow error on a 1.2.9 when starting up |
| 05:43.21 | jhamlyn | OTICE[22044]: cdr.c:1093 do_reload: CDR simple logging enabled. |
| 05:43.21 | jhamlyn | ....[Aug 9 01:57:28] WARNING[22044]: res_smdi.c:729 load_module: No SMDI interfaces are available to listen on, not starting SDMI listener. |
| 05:43.40 | russellb | not an error, you can ignore it |
| 05:43.42 | jhamlyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.42 | jhamlyn | [Aug 9 01:57:28] WARNING[22044]: loader.c:847 print_and_load: Loading module chan_zap.so failed! |
| 05:43.42 | jhamlyn | [root@sw2 asterisk]# OTICE[22044]: cdr.c:1093 do_reload: CDR simple logging enabled. |
| 05:43.42 | jhamlyn | -bash: OTICE[22044]:: command not found |
| 05:44.09 | russellb | um, update libpri, probably |
| 05:44.16 | russellb | and update to 1.2.10 |
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| 05:47.45 | ANTILOCAS | is there any digium card for analog lines that have voice recognition or reverse polarity? |
| 05:50.55 | Shaun2222 | this mysql stuff is annoying... you think there would be better/more documentation on this |
| 05:54.23 | russellb | ANTILOCAS: yes, the digium analog cards support polarity reversal |
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| 05:54.32 | russellb | voice recognition has nothing to do with the hardware |
| 05:54.46 | russellb | and the only current solution for that is to use Lumenvox with Asterisk Business Edition |
| 05:55.57 | Qwell | isn't the connector in trunk? |
| 05:56.13 | russellb | not all of it |
| 05:56.16 | Qwell | ahh |
| 05:56.47 | russellb | Qwell: just a few more days ....... |
| 05:57.02 | Qwell | indeed... |
| 05:57.14 | russellb | and then, panic! |
| 05:57.20 | russellb | i'm going to bed, cya ... |
| 05:57.22 | Qwell | assuming we're talking about the same thing... (which hasn't been made public yet :D) |
| 05:57.29 | russellb | correct! |
| 05:57.33 | Qwell | excellent |
| 05:57.49 | Qwell | night |
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| 06:02.05 | darkgamer20 | when physically installing a x100p card, would there be some resistance or should it slid in easily into the pci slot? |
| 06:03.09 | ANTILOCAS | rusellb does digium card works with atlon adm procesors?? |
| 06:03.58 | RaYmAn-Bx | darkgamer20: is it a clone card? My rather crappy clone x100p doesn't fit in a pci slot more or less..Had to take off the bracket to get it to vaguely fit and even then it's slightly tilted |
| 06:04.08 | Shaun2222 | anybody here use the mysql addon? |
| 06:04.47 | darkgamer20 | RaYmAn-Br: yea, its should be a clone, i bought it on ebay, what do you mean you had to take off the bracket? |
| 06:05.26 | RaYmAn-Bx | darkgamer20: the metal thing attaching to the card that you screw to the case |
| 06:05.47 | darkgamer20 | wow TAKE THAT OFF?! |
| 06:05.55 | RaYmAn-Bx | Shaun2222: the actual mysql command addon or the realtime module? I use the command addon |
| 06:06.07 | RaYmAn-Bx | darkgamer20: Couldn't get it to fit out the pci opening otherwise |
| 06:06.23 | darkgamer20 | damn |
| 06:06.34 | RaYmAn-Bx | which again shows why you shouldn't buy cheap clone cards :) |
| 06:07.38 | darkgamer20 | RaYmAn-Br: lol thats all i can afford right now, anyway what computer do you use? im using a dell optiplex Gx110, would it have anything to do with the computer? |
| 06:08.57 | RaYmAn-Bx | darkgamer20: I suppose some computers have different pci slot sizes (marginally)..but it's supposed to be standard =P I use a mini-itx board with a matching case (But I couldn't get it to fit in my desktop either) |
| 06:09.33 | darkgamer20 | RaYmAn-Br: hmm what to do now? |
| 06:10.09 | RaYmAn-Bx | darkgamer20: if you can get it to fit and it works, then it's great..otherwise you could try removing the bracket (on mine all it took was unscrewing two screws) |
| 06:10.21 | darkgamer20 | oh ok |
| 06:10.38 | darkgamer20 | well thanks for your advice RaYmAn-Br |
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| 06:26.38 | bobnormal | hey, just got 2 FX100P PCIs from ebay working, zaptel driver installed, how the hell do i configure asterisk? is the handbook the resource i want? |
| 06:26.56 | Qwell | ~docs |
| 06:26.58 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 06:26.58 | Qwell | ~wikis |
| 06:27.00 | jbot | methinks wikis is http://www.voip-info.org |
| 06:27.02 | Qwell | ~book |
| 06:27.03 | jbot | book is probably a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 |
| 06:27.19 | bobnormal | ok :) thanks |
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| 06:28.38 | jhamlyn | Help - I have the follow error when running 1.2 and 1.4 asterisk on X86_64 machine. Is there a known issue here ??? |
| 06:28.56 | jhamlyn | [Aug 9 03:26:17] NOTICE[9191]: cdr.c:1093 do_reload: CDR simple logging enabled. |
| 06:28.57 | jhamlyn | ....[Aug 9 03:26:17] WARNING[9191]: res_smdi.c:729 load_module: No SMDI interfaces are available to listen on, not starting SDMI listener. |
| 06:29.08 | bobnormal | is this normal? i think it might be 'cause i have no sound card/kernel audio installed. Aug 9 14:32:52 WARNING[8678]: chan_zap.c:9660 setup_zap: Ignoring switchtype |
| 06:29.23 | jhamlyn | ...................................[Aug 9 03:26:17] WARNING[9191]: loader.c:728 __load_resource: missing mod_data for codec_g729-icc-x86_64.so |
| 06:29.24 | jhamlyn | Segmentation fault |
| 06:29.37 | jhamlyn | any thoughts ???? |
| 06:29.40 | Qwell | jhamlyn: try using a legal codec |
| 06:30.16 | jhamlyn | so remove that codec and all will be ok ?? |
| 06:30.24 | Qwell | pretty much |
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| 06:30.48 | jhamlyn | are both errors related to this codec |
| 06:30.58 | Qwell | no |
| 06:31.05 | Qwell | and they aren't errors |
| 06:31.18 | jhamlyn | ok warnings |
| 06:31.39 | jhamlyn | unfortunately they end with - Segmentation error |
| 06:31.50 | Qwell | because of the last one |
| 06:31.57 | jhamlyn | ok |
| 06:32.26 | jhamlyn | the codec file is being found in an old install I imagine |
| 06:32.35 | jhamlyn | SO I need to delete from the system |
| 06:32.42 | jhamlyn | or is it in a config file |
| 06:33.14 | hads | bobnormal: That warning is normal if you are doing a reload from the console. It's just telling you that it's ignoring signalling because you need to do a restart to change that. |
| 06:34.32 | jhamlyn | so if I remove the file ./usr/lib/asterisk/modules/codec_g729-icc-x86_64.so and start again all will be well ??? |
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| 06:42.52 | bobnormal | hads: ok graet, thanks. |
| 06:43.39 | ANTILOCAS | does digium card work with atlon adm procesors?? |
| 06:43.57 | Strom_C | yes |
| 06:44.07 | Strom_C | especially if you can spell "athlon" and "AMD" correctly |
| 06:44.40 | ANTILOCAS | hah |
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| 06:45.25 | ANTILOCAS | strom do u use analog asterisk card? |
| 06:46.21 | ANTILOCAS | i want to know the difference with fxo and fxs |
| 06:46.34 | ANTILOCAS | which one should i buy |
| 06:47.37 | JT | ANTILOCAS: for what? |
| 06:47.40 | Qwell | ~fxofxs |
| 06:47.42 | jbot | fxofxs is probably An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage, you plug a phone LINE into this. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage, you plug a PHONE into this. |
| 06:47.51 | JT | telephone handsets or exchnage lines? |
| 06:47.54 | JT | exchange |
| 06:48.39 | bobnormal | does that mean that these FX100P provide both FXO and FXS? i mean, it has a phone port too .. but perhaps its not FXS as it doesnt provide dialtone? |
| 06:48.53 | Strom_C | ~docs |
| 06:48.55 | jbot | methinks docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 06:48.55 | Strom_C | ~book |
| 06:48.56 | jbot | i guess book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 |
| 06:48.56 | Qwell | bobnormal: that is a passthrough port. it does literally nothing |
| 06:49.28 | bobnormal | qwell: you seem awfully knowledgeable, do you come from a telephony background? |
| 06:49.39 | Qwell | Strom_C: I've missed you, mein fraulein |
| 06:49.48 | Qwell | bobnormal: not really |
| 06:50.02 | bobnormal | qwell: i have a dream, maybe you can tell me if its asterisk-acheivable. |
| 06:50.07 | Qwell | it is |
| 06:50.09 | ANTILOCAS | isnt it the same phone line that phone? u plug the same |
| 06:50.11 | bobnormal | hahah :) |
| 06:50.16 | Strom_C | Mein Fraulein, |
| 06:50.18 | bobnormal | thats what i wanted to hear :) |
| 06:50.19 | Strom_C | Seriously, what the hell |
| 06:50.24 | Strom_C | 311 /// 555 /// 2368 |
| 06:50.39 | JT | ANTILOCAS: do you want to connect an outside phone line to asterisk, or a phone handset? |
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| 06:50.47 | JT | there are different interfaces for each |
| 06:50.48 | Qwell | Strom_C: not even a subtle hint in here about it? |
| 06:50.54 | Strom_C | wha? |
| 06:50.55 | ANTILOCAS | i want to connect a normal analog telephone |
| 06:50.59 | Qwell | beforehand :P |
| 06:51.05 | JT | one has exchange -48VDC battery and 90VAC ringing current |
| 06:51.07 | JT | ANTILOCAS: FXS |
| 06:51.44 | ANTILOCAS | thanks |
| 06:52.03 | ANTILOCAS | is it cheaper to buy the cards directly from digium or to find a reseller or distributor |
| 06:55.27 | russellb | reseller. digium sells at the full retail price, for the cards in a retail package |
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| 06:56.27 | ANTILOCAS | im in Bolivia and it seems the nearest reseller its in Argentina |
| 06:56.43 | ANTILOCAS | i will write them to compare prices |
| 06:56.51 | Strom_C | Qwell: before what |
| 06:56.59 | bobnormal | antilocas: you can buy on ebay cheaply |
| 06:57.02 | Strom_C | before putting the stations up, or before revealing the secret? |
| 06:57.17 | ANTILOCAS | russel are u sure they have reverse polarity? |
| 06:58.12 | russellb | yes |
| 06:58.19 | Qwell | Strom_C: the latter |
| 06:58.24 | ANTILOCAS | most telecom here had blocked the return signal for meter call. So i been told to use a card with reverse polarity or voice recognition |
| 06:58.29 | Qwell | You're no fun :P |
| 06:58.39 | Qwell | hell, I didn't even hear about it until it hit /. |
| 06:58.56 | russellb | ANTILOCAS: ah, for answer detection? |
| 06:59.01 | ANTILOCAS | yes |
| 06:59.29 | russellb | ANTILOCAS: there is an option, answeronpolarityswitch=yes |
| 06:59.39 | russellb | also, hanguponpolarityswitch=yes |
| 06:59.56 | ANTILOCAS | so i have to configure that in the free software? |
| 07:00.02 | russellb | yes |
| 07:00.15 | ANTILOCAS | great |
| 07:00.17 | Strom_C | Qwell: no one knew about it until defcon |
| 07:00.17 | Qwell | What do you guys think the cost savings would be, going from 8 analog lines with hunt/rollover to a partial PRI? |
| 07:00.32 | Qwell | partial with say 12 lines |
| 07:00.34 | Strom_C | Qwell: it may be the same price to go to a full PRI |
| 07:01.20 | JT | no idea what costs savings are like where you are, in .au it would definately be cheaper :) |
| 07:01.23 | russellb | Strom_C: knew abount what? |
| 07:01.46 | Strom_C | russellb: the Mein Fraulein numbers stations |
| 07:02.02 | Strom_C | russellb: that my friends and I were behind them, anyway |
| 07:02.43 | Qwell | has #10 been revealed? |
| 07:03.18 | Strom_C | Qwell: yes |
| 07:03.21 | bobnormal | is having two FX100P clone cards on the same IRQ a bad idea? |
| 07:03.23 | Strom_C | projectevil.org |
| 07:03.55 | hads | bobnormal: Yes. |
| 07:04.00 | Qwell | Strom_C: ha, nice easter eggs |
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| 07:04.28 | ANTILOCAS | I cant find a card with 4 fxs port. It always come with fxo ports too |
| 07:04.54 | ANTILOCAS | isnt there the option to buy only the card without the modules and then buy the modules separtedly |
| 07:05.07 | JT | usually there is |
| 07:05.23 | JT | the TDM400P can be bought with any arangement of FXS or FXO module |
| 07:05.26 | hads | ANTILOCAS: You want a TDM40B, you can't usually buy the card seperately |
| 07:05.26 | JT | or a lack of modules |
| 07:05.38 | bobnormal | hads: is running them on different IRQs OK? i just stumbled on a line in the TFOT PDF that says you should only have one digium card in a system. does fx100p clone = digium card, and is this necessarily true? system is Athlon XP 3000+, 2GB RAM |
| 07:05.40 | ANTILOCAS | oh yes |
| 07:05.42 | ANTILOCAS | i found it |
| 07:06.36 | hads | bobnormal: It depends on the system. I wouldn't run an X100 clone in anything though :) |
| 07:07.17 | bobnormal | hads: rightyo, i guess it will work then. |
| 07:07.22 | JT | the one digium card per system suggestion is possibly just paranoia |
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| 07:08.18 | hads | JT: Probably more a caution than paranoia. |
| 07:08.18 | JT | there are reasons to do it, but i don't know of any major software issues that disallow multiple cards running |
| 07:08.21 | bobnormal | jt: thanks |
| 07:08.26 | JT | hads: yeah |
| 07:08.28 | JT | i mean |
| 07:08.43 | JT | if you have a PRI, or 4 of them on a card |
| 07:08.49 | hads | It's not a software issue, it's a hardware issue - the motherboard. |
| 07:08.55 | JT | getting another box for further lines would be a good redundancy measure |
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| 07:09.09 | bobnormal | i actually host this server inside my telco's data center, so i will probably upgrade to more lines in the future - considering they're so cheap when they only have to run them 3m ;) |
| 07:09.18 | JT | what about the motherboard? |
| 07:09.39 | x86 | bobnormal: which telco, if i may inquire? |
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| 07:10.29 | bobnormal | x86: one in china |
| 07:10.35 | bobnormal | x86: i live in southwest china |
| 07:10.51 | hads | Whether you can assign a seperate interupt to each card. |
| 07:11.47 | bobnormal | hads: i might try asking the BIOS to force different IRQs on the different PCI slots |
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| 07:14.11 | bobnormal | "Asterisk is a beast, and it expects to be fed the best" |
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| 07:15.13 | x86 | bobnormal: ah |
| 07:15.29 | x86 | bobnormal: you like living there? |
| 07:16.16 | bobnormal | x86: love it |
| 07:16.27 | bobnormal | x86: i retired @ 23 |
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| 07:19.57 | e-ddie | damn |
| 07:20.03 | e-ddie | when did you start working? |
| 07:20.07 | e-ddie | at age 3? |
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| 07:20.31 | jasloan | I've got an issue with a macro that stops executing after a caller is sent to voicemail, only if they hangup instead of pressing # ofter leaving their message. I did some digging and I guess to work around this I can use DeadAGI, only I'm not exactly sure where to use this as there's no examples I've seen that are similar in nature. Can someone take a look at http://pastebin.ca/123371 and provide some feedback? |
| 07:21.02 | e-ddie | and what is the average age of death down there? |
| 07:21.22 | bobnormal | e-ddie: 17 |
| 07:21.46 | e-ddie | i hope that wasnt the answer for the second question :D |
| 07:22.19 | bobnormal | e-ddie: i'm not sure, i'm not average and i've had a good life so it doesn't worry me |
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| 07:22.34 | e-ddie | nice |
| 07:23.41 | x86 | bobnormal: so are you a chinese national or emmigrant? |
| 07:23.46 | bobnormal | x86: i'm aussie |
| 07:23.53 | x86 | ah |
| 07:24.03 | x86 | so who invited you into the country? |
| 07:24.05 | daysmen3 | can some one explain how to create queues using asterisk realtime feature. Do you create queues by issuing SQL commands in some AGI script or straight from the dialplan |
| 07:24.41 | hads | bobnormal: Aha, an aussie. |
| 07:24.49 | bobnormal | x86: i invited myself |
| 07:24.58 | bobnormal | x86: actually the chinese government invited me |
| 07:25.16 | bobnormal | x86: but only for a year, after that i decided to stay |
| 07:25.57 | bobnormal | x86: its not all good here, the education level is quite low generally speaking so its hard to get a chat on |
| 07:26.32 | bobnormal | x86: but life is good, things are cheap and people are friendly... there's nothing to complain about if play your cards right |
| 07:27.03 | x86 | cool |
| 07:28.18 | bobnormal | eg: unlimited wireless internet, country-wide, over CDMA costs US$45/month |
| 07:28.26 | bobnormal | DSL costs US$8/month |
| 07:28.55 | e-ddie | and how's the wages? |
| 07:28.57 | bobnormal | colo costs vary, i pay US$70/month and get unlimited bandwidth + 2 IPs |
| 07:29.04 | topping | how fast is the DSL? |
| 07:29.09 | bobnormal | e-ddie: you make your own opportunities here |
| 07:29.13 | E-bola | unlimited bandwith is relative |
| 07:29.23 | E-bola | they will always have an upper limit in reality |
| 07:29.27 | e-ddie | bobnormal: so, you get to be a bank robber? |
| 07:29.37 | bobnormal | topping: varies widely with provider + location, not so good internationally for me right now but i've had great connections in other cities |
| 07:29.45 | bobnormal | e-ddie: if you want to be shot |
| 07:30.03 | bobnormal | e-bola: i mean 'unlimited throughput per month with no extra charges' |
| 07:30.51 | E-bola | ya, and im telling you, that if u push 100tb+ through in a month |
| 07:30.57 | E-bola | they probably gonna cut your line |
| 07:31.06 | E-bola | that have happended to loads of people |
| 07:31.21 | bobnormal | probably |
| 07:31.51 | bobnormal | the beauty of the developing world is that nothing is defined, everything is negotiable |
| 07:32.31 | bobnormal | worst case: move server to provider down the road @ same price |
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| 07:39.11 | bobnormal | zttest -> 54.394531% = not good, i guess |
| 07:41.02 | DarKnesS_WolF | anybody has an issues SIP<->ZAP in music on hold ? using native player |
| 07:41.04 | DarKnesS_WolF | ? |
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| 07:42.27 | bobnormal | hrrm, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+PCI+bus+Troubleshooting suggests that using SATA hard drives is more likely to cause IRQ issues |
| 07:42.52 | bobnormal | i have four fairly heavily used SATA hard drives in the system i want to put these two cards in |
| 07:44.27 | *** join/#asterisk inspired (n=mikael@85.221.7.59) |
| 07:44.50 | inspired | anyone using asterisk with a 64 bit cpu? |
| 07:45.13 | inspired | i.e. athlon 64 |
| 07:45.30 | bobnormal | i am about to, so tell me if you have problems ;) |
| 07:46.33 | inspired | heheh, that's why I asked! I want to know if you're having problems ;) |
| 07:47.42 | bobnormal | ok, help me get the basics going and i'll do an install on that processor this afternoon :) |
| 07:47.44 | bobnormal | hehe |
| 07:47.55 | bobnormal | right now i have two FX100P clone cards in an alternate machine for testing |
| 07:48.20 | bobnormal | they come up as UNCONFIGURED and RED ALARM right now, as i haven't found which config files to edit and the second has no line at the moment |
| 07:48.34 | *** join/#asterisk MacWeenie (n=chatzill@cpe-74-65-228-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 07:48.37 | bobnormal | i am reading the 'future of telephony' PDF and havent got to the practical part yet ;) |
| 07:48.38 | inspired | no experience with analog cards, but check /etc/zaptel.conf and /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf |
| 07:48.58 | bobnormal | mmm, found both, not clear what i have to change yet |
| 07:49.03 | bobnormal | hence the reading :) |
| 07:49.10 | *** join/#asterisk hads|home (n=hads@mail.nice.net.nz) |
| 07:49.19 | inspired | http://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm#_Toc49248763 |
| 07:49.33 | inspired | check this one. search for x100p and read the configuration section |
| 07:49.37 | inspired | should be fairly simple |
| 07:49.56 | bobnormal | cheers |
| 07:51.14 | bobnormal | wow, even written with vi, this is a good resource ;) |
| 07:52.53 | e-ddie | i write all my good stuff in notepad |
| 07:52.58 | benjk | x100p aka $2 USD Ambient softmodem PCI cards suck ballz |
| 07:53.02 | inspired | I write all my good stuff on paper |
| 07:53.10 | e-ddie | inspired: too bad |
| 07:53.33 | benjk | they are good as zaptel timing sources though |
| 07:54.00 | inspired | no, not really. nano or mc seems to do the trick. never took the time to learn vi. can't see why it is so special, really |
| 07:54.46 | bobnormal | vi is on almost every unix box, and it is brutally efficient once you learn it .. therefore its ncie to know |
| 07:56.32 | hads|home | 1,2,3,4, I declare an editor war! |
| 07:56.55 | E-bola | nano powah |
| 07:57.21 | benjk | bobnormal, there are no such things as clone x100p cards, they all have always been Ambient softmodems and since the Ambient chipset is no longer manufactured these days but demand is still there, the Chinese manufacturers use refurbished chips and worse, chips from earlier production runs that didn't pass quality control |
| 07:58.10 | benjk | unless you have a card that was bought 2 or 3 years ago, you are most likely to have something that's crap |
| 07:59.11 | bobnormal | benjk: thats ok, if it works |
| 07:59.23 | benjk | well, it doesn't work |
| 07:59.28 | *** join/#asterisk darkskiez (n=mbryars@194.247.78.146) |
| 07:59.30 | benjk | as timers yes |
| 07:59.35 | benjk | as voice cards no |
| 07:59.36 | bobnormal | benjk: then i will send it back |
| 08:00.24 | benjk | it's not as simple as works versus doesn't work at all |
| 08:00.31 | benjk | what you get is horrible sound |
| 08:01.21 | bobnormal | benjk: thanks, if you will give me a break for a minute and let me configure it and listen for myself i'll make my own judgement on the hardware in my hands, but i value your input |
| 08:01.40 | benjk | some cards are dead on arrival, but most kind or appear to work but distort sound, generate false hangups and other sporadic problems |
| 08:01.49 | bobnormal | benjk: i've read similar opinions of the hardware from other sources, so i'm sure you are right, but perhaps poor quality audio is OK for my application |
| 08:02.40 | benjk | if its just for experimental use and to learn how to configure stuff, its probably ok, but if you want to actually use it for telephone calls that are important to you, then not |
| 08:03.35 | benjk | you are mistaken if you think this is opinion |
| 08:03.46 | benjk | the chips are no longer manufactured - that's a fact |
| 08:04.10 | hads|home | Lighten up :) |
| 08:06.14 | benjk | its important that folks know what kind of quality standard this stuff is, there are too many people who expect you can deliver a product for $2 |
| 08:06.42 | hads|home | True, but I don't think bobnormal is one of them. |
| 08:07.15 | benjk | there's 263 people in the channel now and I think the channel is being logged for display on some web page as well |
| 08:07.57 | hads|home | OK you win, I'll get another beer. |
| 08:08.16 | *** join/#asterisk Fraeggl (n=Fraeggl@rkom.r-kom.de) |
| 08:08.41 | ANTILOCAS | So this asterisk with the TDM40B fxs card works with internet dsl? |
| 08:08.42 | benjk | I only win if I no longer get stupid customers who expect to pay $2 and get a properly working company PBX for that |
| 08:09.15 | benjk | I charge $500 per analog port stupidity tax |
| 08:09.40 | benjk | without any guarantees that it will ever work of course |
| 08:10.05 | sumasuma | hi |
| 08:10.09 | ANTILOCAS | benjk |
| 08:10.25 | sumasuma | i could not make my asterisk server to authenticate with my another asterisk in SIP |
| 08:10.47 | sumasuma | please don't suggest me to use IAX |
| 08:10.58 | sumasuma | i can use only SIP in this scenerio |
| 08:11.27 | ANTILOCAS | benjk just tell me the basics, i buy the TDM40B and install asterisk , what else i need? |
| 08:11.27 | benjk | ANTILOCAS, not in response to you, but for the many folks who believe in the tales and mystery of imagination by the myth of the x100p |
| 08:11.56 | ANTILOCAS | yeah i know |
| 08:12.22 | benjk | but in general, I try to discourage people from using analog anyway |
| 08:12.46 | bobnormal | benjk: whats the cheapest digital solution worth |
| 08:12.52 | ANTILOCAS | well im in Bolivia and here the lines are analogous |
| 08:13.08 | ANTILOCAS | the cheapest to me is tdm40B |
| 08:13.30 | benjk | that's tough luck, but there are many people who are in places where they could go digital and want analog nevertheless |
| 08:14.07 | ANTILOCAS | hah |
| 08:14.10 | benjk | unless you are in the country side, I am sure that you can get BRI in Bolivia |
| 08:14.25 | ANTILOCAS | what is BRI? |
| 08:14.32 | benjk | basic rate ISDN |
| 08:14.38 | *** join/#asterisk chexum (i=jfarkas@gateway/tor/x-23d8debfb0b2c0a4) |
| 08:14.41 | benjk | one circuit with 2 digital channels |
| 08:14.41 | ANTILOCAS | we have dsl |
| 08:14.47 | benjk | not for data |
| 08:14.49 | benjk | for voice |
| 08:15.25 | ANTILOCAS | i dont know |
| 08:15.27 | benjk | if you can get a BRI circuit you can use a BRI card |
| 08:15.28 | JT | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+PCI+bus+Troubleshooting <--- is there anything that doesn't cause a potential problem for hardware? :/ |
| 08:15.36 | ANTILOCAS | but we have like 6 telecom here |
| 08:15.59 | benjk | ANTILOCAS, which city? La Paz? |
| 08:16.04 | ANTILOCAS | Santa Cruz |
| 08:16.16 | *** join/#asterisk adorah (n=Administ@87.68.173.125.cable.012.net.il) |
| 08:16.17 | benjk | you should be able to get BRI there |
| 08:16.28 | ANTILOCAS | u mean there are BRI cards? |
| 08:16.35 | ANTILOCAS | like TDM40B digium cards? |
| 08:16.35 | benjk | if you need four concurrent calls, you only need 2 BRI circuits |
| 08:16.40 | JT | yep |
| 08:16.53 | ANTILOCAS | what about reverse polarity |
| 08:16.54 | JT | digium is releasing a 4port bri card, but it's not out yet |
| 08:16.55 | benjk | Digium also have a BRI card now, its a 4 portt card |
| 08:16.56 | ANTILOCAS | do they have that? |
| 08:17.05 | JT | there are heaps of other places that make bri cards |
| 08:17.10 | JT | isdn doesn't have polarities |
| 08:17.12 | benjk | BRI is digital, you don't need reverse polatiry |
| 08:17.21 | JT | has a digital signalling control channel |
| 08:17.30 | benjk | also you can use a passive BRI card with the Cologne HFC-PCI chip |
| 08:17.35 | benjk | those are less than $50 |
| 08:17.40 | jasloan | has anyone used deadagi in a macro before? |
| 08:17.52 | inspired | ANTILOCAS, the best and cheapest card if you want one or two bri lines is probably one with a HFC-S chip |
| 08:18.01 | JT | benjk: not good for lots of lines though |
| 08:18.03 | inspired | they are ridiculously cheap and work great for the price |
| 08:18.17 | benjk | you can use two passive BRI cards, will give you the equivalent of 4 analog lines (capacity wise) |
| 08:18.25 | JT | junghanns.net make the big guns of isdn cards |
| 08:18.26 | ANTILOCAS | man i was reading about tdm40B and u are tellin me a new whole of info |
| 08:18.28 | benjk | JT, he only appears to need 4 channels |
| 08:18.33 | JT | fair enough |
| 08:18.37 | ANTILOCAS | this is confusing |
| 08:18.44 | inspired | go digital! |
| 08:18.48 | benjk | ANTILOCAL, analog is definitely inferior to digital |
| 08:18.53 | benjk | if you can, go digital |
| 08:18.53 | ANTILOCAS | but here the lines are analogs |
| 08:19.02 | ANTILOCAS | my phone and line phone are analog |
| 08:19.08 | benjk | I am sure you can get them switched to BRI |
| 08:19.09 | JT | they are here too, unless you get a digital service |
| 08:19.19 | ANTILOCAS | they say they complain with 68 fcc rurles |
| 08:19.25 | benjk | call your telephone company and ask them |
| 08:19.26 | inspired | lines are always analog unless you order them digital |
| 08:19.26 | ANTILOCAS | oh i ce |
| 08:19.53 | benjk | it may be called ISDN64 or something like that |
| 08:19.53 | inspired | they are still carried over the same cables and so on, the only difference is that you get a NT-1 box placed in your house connected to the line coming out of the wall |
| 08:20.03 | benjk | there are two flavours of ISDN |
| 08:20.07 | ANTILOCAS | so in that case i would need BRI cards plug it to the PCI ? |
| 08:20.07 | benjk | BIG and SMALL |
| 08:20.10 | ANTILOCAS | and what else |
| 08:20.20 | benjk | BIG is called E1 or PRI in your location |
| 08:20.28 | benjk | SMALL is called BRI |
| 08:20.43 | inspired | ANTILOCAS, BRI cards + a BRI service |
| 08:20.47 | benjk | the E1 has 30 phone channels on a single circuit, you apparently don't need that |
| 08:21.02 | benjk | but BRI has 2 channels per circuit, so that seems to be the right size for you |
| 08:21.17 | ANTILOCAS | but they might have control it the answer detection |
| 08:21.30 | inspired | ANTILOCAS, bear in mind that you need to use bristuff (a "flavour" of asterisk) if you want to use a BRI card, unless you are brave enough to use vISDN |
| 08:21.46 | benjk | BRIstuff is very straightforward |
| 08:21.50 | JT | inspired: is it really a flavour if asterisk? |
| 08:21.54 | inspired | nah |
| 08:21.55 | JT | i thought it was just drivers |
| 08:22.00 | benjk | no its a spoon |
| 08:22.07 | benjk | as opposed to fork |
| 08:22.09 | inspired | that's why I used the "" |
| 08:22.32 | *** join/#asterisk psk (n=psk@golia.caltanet.it) |
| 08:22.39 | benjk | you download BRIstuff and run a script, it will then download Asterisk and Libpri and apply all the needed patches and you are done |
| 08:22.53 | hads|home | You don't need BRIstuff to use BRI with Asterisk. |
| 08:23.00 | *** join/#asterisk moon06 (n=michael@cim06-1-82-228-240-97.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:23.07 | benjk | there are other ISDN drivers for use with Asterisk |
| 08:23.09 | hads|home | There is mISDN and chan_misdn |
| 08:23.18 | sumasuma | anyone please help me |
| 08:23.24 | benjk | but BRIstuff is probably the most straightforward, at least for the HFC based PCI cards |
| 08:24.33 | benjk | inspired, BRIstuff is a script and a collection of patches |
| 08:24.39 | hads|home | mISDN is pretty straightforward. |
| 08:24.53 | benjk | hads, not if you are a beginner with Asterisk |
| 08:25.04 | ANTILOCAS | benjk will be here tomorrow night? |
| 08:25.18 | benjk | if its your first install, then BRIstuff is easier because it does all the work for you |
| 08:25.21 | JT | benjk will be here forever and ever and ever |
| 08:25.29 | benjk | no need to build separate drivers and modules |
| 08:25.38 | ANTILOCAS | but he is not op |
| 08:25.45 | ANTILOCAS | he knows a lot though |
| 08:26.00 | ANTILOCAS | benjk give me yer phone i will call u collect |
| 08:26.07 | ANTILOCAS | hah |
| 08:26.14 | benjk | ANTILOCAS, I have a friend in Bogota who might be able to help you |
| 08:26.38 | benjk | you can call via sip or iax, free of charge, no collect needed ;) |
| 08:27.14 | ANTILOCAS | is sip and iax the same as net2phone like? |
| 08:27.19 | benjk | but anyway, first find out what's involved to get your analog lines switched to BRI, then you can make a decision how you want to proceed |
| 08:27.31 | chexum | ugh, I read that as "via sip or fax" :0 |
| 08:27.46 | JT | lol, slow irc |
| 08:27.48 | ANTILOCAS | benjk give me his phone |
| 08:27.52 | ANTILOCAS | or your phone |
| 08:27.57 | benjk | net2phone is a piece os software and a company afaik |
| 08:28.03 | benjk | sip and iax are protocols |
| 08:28.07 | JT | write some stuff, fax it, wait for reply faxes back |
| 08:28.10 | ANTILOCAS | is ok i will call u via ATA |
| 08:28.17 | ANTILOCAS | i use net2phone |
| 08:28.30 | ANTILOCAS | but only if i cant hundle myself |
| 08:28.37 | *** part/#asterisk mwright1 (n=matt@lists.vic.greens.org.au) |
| 08:32.23 | *** join/#asterisk Ciber311 (n=Ciber311@user-1087e94.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 08:32.33 | sumasuma | benjk: i have a problem in using asterisk as SIPUA can you please help me |
| 08:33.05 | sumasuma | Aug 9 09:25:37 WARNING[13595]: chan_sip.c:730 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 6722f41a68717a785b8fe27d3c36f2e5@127.0.0.1 for seqno 131 (Critical Request) |
| 08:33.14 | sumasuma | this is what i get everytime |
| 08:33.28 | sumasuma | It send register, gets 101 and 401 |
| 08:33.38 | sumasuma | it is not sending the new register with authentication |
| 08:33.51 | sumasuma | information |
| 08:34.09 | benjk | too little info |
| 08:34.31 | sumasuma | i have used,, register =>user:pass@server/1234 |
| 08:34.48 | sumasuma | what more info you want? |
| 08:36.25 | sumasuma | Asterisk UA is having public IP, proxy is behind NAT |
| 08:36.37 | sumasuma | witht port forwarded |
| 08:37.52 | ^rage^ | hi |
| 08:38.07 | ^rage^ | can asterisk support T.38? |
| 08:39.14 | *** join/#asterisk Yanie (n=Dave@82-69-4-3.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 08:39.50 | benjk | there is work being done on T38 |
| 08:40.09 | benjk | but its more on OpenPBX.org |
| 08:40.49 | benjk | sumasuma, proxy behind NAT is a very bad idea, better forget that one |
| 08:42.30 | benjk | build a tunnel, or use IAX |
| 08:43.37 | sumasuma | benjk: both are asterisk |
| 08:43.49 | benjk | doesnt matter |
| 08:44.20 | benjk | in fact if both ends are asterisk, there is no reason not to use IAX |
| 08:44.39 | sumasuma | benjk: i have been assigned to make it to work with SIP |
| 08:45.19 | benjk | tough luck |
| 08:45.29 | sumasuma | benjk: you are saying it will not work ? |
| 08:45.49 | *** join/#asterisk Yanie (n=Dave@82-69-4-3.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 08:46.32 | benjk | I am saying it requires more than port forwarding |
| 08:46.45 | benjk | it also requires very solid knowledge of networking and SIP |
| 08:46.45 | sumasuma | what more you want ? |
| 08:47.02 | sumasuma | I'm very good in SIP, may not be in asterisk |
| 08:47.09 | benjk | there are no trivial solutions to SIP NAT traversal |
| 08:47.23 | sumasuma | hello, i'm not asking for RTP |
| 08:47.26 | Ciber311 | yeah it's annoying |
| 08:47.29 | sumasuma | hello, i'm not asking for signalling only |
| 08:47.30 | Ciber311 | i gave up and used iax |
| 08:47.33 | Ciber311 | stupid nat |
| 08:47.46 | benjk | stupid NAT and stupid SIP |
| 08:47.47 | sumasuma | ha ha, I'm not an escaper guys |
| 08:48.04 | Ciber311 | hehe i tried, trust me :P |
| 08:48.14 | benjk | more like banging your head against a wall |
| 08:48.24 | Ciber311 | eventually got 1 sip trunk to work |
| 08:48.30 | benjk | "No, I dont want to use the door, I want to got through the wall here" |
| 08:48.32 | Ciber311 | while another would only get one way audio |
| 08:48.34 | sumasuma | ok guys, thanks, please don't waster your time |
| 08:48.41 | Ciber311 | nothing would fix it |
| 08:48.50 | sumasuma | i have systems working before |
| 08:48.57 | sumasuma | with asterisk |
| 08:48.59 | Ciber311 | so did i :) |
| 08:49.15 | chexum | the newest netfilter package has a SIP NAT patch to make even SDP translation for linux kernel 2.6.x |
| 08:49.18 | benjk | yeah, you can actually put a cart before the horse and have the horse push the cart |
| 08:49.23 | Ciber311 | i still have the other trunk using sip on the same machine |
| 08:49.34 | sumasuma | hey guys i got it worked :) |
| 08:49.35 | benjk | but why you would want to do that is beyond me |
| 08:49.38 | Ciber311 | but the one from voxbone just won't give me two way audio with sip |
| 08:49.42 | sumasuma | thanks for all your help |
| 08:50.10 | bobnormal | haha :) |
| 08:50.20 | Ciber311 | wonder if he really did, or if he's just saying that :P |
| 08:50.33 | benjk | who cares |
| 08:50.36 | Ciber311 | either way, he didn't hit a real annoying wall if he got around it that fast |
| 08:50.36 | *** join/#asterisk xxoxx (n=xxoxxx@tor/regular/xxoxx) |
| 08:50.45 | sumasuma | the contact is missing |
| 08:50.53 | sumasuma | it is replaced with local ip |
| 08:50.58 | sumasuma | got it replaced with externip |
| 08:51.05 | sumasuma | anything else you want ? |
| 08:51.08 | Ciber311 | yeah that's simple |
| 08:51.17 | sumasuma | why the hell you asked me to move to IAX ? |
| 08:51.27 | sumasuma | i was asking for a solution, not a suggestion |
| 08:51.28 | Ciber311 | i didn't ask you to move to anything |
| 08:51.44 | benjk | and we are not support here |
| 08:51.47 | Ciber311 | i simply made a comment that i gave up on sip for one of my trunks and used iax |
| 08:51.50 | sumasuma | i know sir |
| 08:51.55 | benjk | neither 1 tier nor 2 tier nor any tier |
| 08:51.56 | sumasuma | if you dunno, you can say dunno |
| 08:52.05 | benjk | bullcrap |
| 08:52.10 | sumasuma | i never compelled that you need to provide me solution |
| 08:52.17 | hads|home | benjk: so don't answer if you don't want to... |
| 08:52.22 | sumasuma | i just asked a help |
| 08:52.29 | benjk | and I gave you some advice |
| 08:52.32 | Ciber311 | now where was i |
| 08:52.35 | benjk | you can take it or leave it |
| 08:52.38 | Ciber311 | right... moving my irssi config |
| 08:52.48 | benjk | entirely up to you |
| 08:53.00 | sumasuma | i told in the begining also |
| 08:53.13 | sumasuma | not looking for suggestion and need the solution for the problem |
| 08:53.20 | *** part/#asterisk hads|home (n=hads@mail.nice.net.nz) |
| 08:53.25 | JT | nicer? |
| 08:53.28 | JT | how emo. |
| 08:53.36 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 08:53.50 | Ciber311 | he's probably gonna go cut himself and cry in a corner now |
| 08:53.52 | sumasuma | i want to be nice, but it looks like the guys here are marketing for IAX |
| 08:53.56 | Ciber311 | while listening to linkin park |
| 08:54.07 | Ciber311 | or whatever the emo kids cry to nowadays |
| 08:54.07 | benjk | if somebody asks me how to put a cart before the horse, I will tell them that I think they should put the horse before the cart, no matter how strongly they emphasise that they want the cart before the horse |
| 08:54.08 | JT | sumasuma: well it was probably the best suggestion given you did not provide sufficient information to diagnose your problem |
| 08:54.16 | phearless | on my cisco phone, in SIP<macaddress>.cnf , should I add in line1_name etc all the lines of the office, or just the line of the phone ? |
| 08:54.18 | JT | you could've pastebinned lots more info |
| 08:54.22 | phearless | I am confused |
| 08:54.24 | phearless | ! |
| 08:54.31 | JT | if wanted to do more than bitch about the answer #asteriskers gave you |
| 08:54.42 | sumasuma | JT: nobody asked me for me, if they asked me, then i would have posted here |
| 08:54.54 | sumasuma | JT: nobody asked me for more info, if they asked me, then i would have posted here |
| 08:54.55 | benjk | you can use LTP as well |
| 08:54.55 | JT | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.01 | sumasuma | or in paste bin |
| 08:55.26 | sumasuma | i asked what more info he needs |
| 08:55.27 | benjk | IAX isn't the only NAT friendly game in town |
| 08:55.27 | benjk | and you can build a tunnel |
| 08:55.39 | sumasuma | <benjk> too little info |
| 08:55.39 | sumasuma | <sumasuma> i have used,, register =>user:pass@server/1234 |
| 08:55.39 | sumasuma | <sumasuma> what more info you want? |
| 08:55.59 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 08:56.01 | sumasuma | JK: you got it ? |
| 08:56.06 | JT | sumasuma: normally at least sip.conf in paste bin with sensitive stuff changed |
| 08:56.25 | JT | and diagnostic console output |
| 08:56.36 | sumasuma | i pasted whatever i got in the console output |
| 08:56.48 | benjk | as I said, if you ask about putting a cart before the horse, I chose to point out that the horse should go before the cart and I will not endulge myself in accomplishing the folly |
| 08:56.49 | sumasuma | <sumasuma> Aug 9 09:25:37 WARNING[13595]: chan_sip.c:730 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 6722f41a68717a785b8fe27d3c36f2e5@127.0.0.1 for seqno 131 (Critical Request) |
| 08:57.15 | sumasuma | JT: anything more wrong I did here ? |
| 08:57.26 | JT | not really |
| 08:57.33 | JT | maybe something got lost in the translation |
| 08:57.43 | sumasuma | benjk: i ignored you sorry |
| 08:57.59 | sumasuma | JT: thank you sir |
| 08:58.27 | sumasuma | See the response <Ciber311> wonder if he really did, or if he's just saying that :P |
| 08:58.40 | benjk | I would have preferred that |
| 08:58.43 | sumasuma | Ciber311: if you want to know the solution you can ask for it |
| 08:58.44 | benjk | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:58.49 | benjk | you complained about IAX marketing |
| 08:59.07 | Ciber311 | sumasuma: your solution won't help me |
| 08:59.13 | Ciber311 | my problem isn't a config error heh |
| 08:59.29 | bobnormal | benjk: my cheap and cheerful card seems to be working fine (judging by a lengthy test call over GSM), though hdparm -t managed to make some cracklyness appear i havent discovered any issues yet with this card that would prevent me from using it in future. thanks for your input though, i will probably upgrade in future. |
| 08:59.36 | sumasuma | Ciber311: I came here to ask for a solution to my problem, I'm not an asterisk to solve your problem |
| 08:59.49 | Ciber311 | what? |
| 08:59.54 | sumasuma | *asterisk expert |
| 09:00.01 | benjk | bobnormal, you will likely experience false hangups |
| 09:00.13 | Ciber311 | mine can't be fixed easily as benjk and i were saying |
| 09:00.18 | Ciber311 | which is why i used iax |
| 09:00.21 | Ciber311 | pay attention :P |
| 09:01.13 | benjk | also, with analog you cannot conclude "works once - will always work" |
| 09:01.33 | benjk | with digital you can usually do so, but analog takes a while to watch before you can be confident |
| 09:02.39 | bobnormal | life lesson #1: nothing is forever |
| 09:02.54 | Ciber311 | i try to stay away from analog, too tedious :P |
| 09:04.00 | sumasuma | bobnormal: i'm using x100p for 2 years, works cute without problems |
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| 09:08.39 | phearless | on my cisco phone, in SIP<macaddress>.cnf , should I add in line1_name etc all the lines of the office, or just the line of the phone ? |
| 09:10.24 | benjk | 2 years explains why |
| 09:10.52 | benjk | a card bought 2 years ago would have been one with an original chipset |
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| 09:11.16 | benjk | today the chips are no longer manufactured and you get reject silicon |
| 09:12.38 | bobnormal | benjk: i wouldn't be so sure stocks are that low, ICs are stockpiled all over the place |
| 09:12.53 | bobnormal | benjk: firstly few people would bother keeping rejects in the first place |
| 09:12.53 | benjk | trust me, stocks have run out |
| 09:13.01 | benjk | the Chinese will |
| 09:13.05 | sumasuma | bobnormal: if you want in millions, you can get it in china |
| 09:13.06 | bobnormal | haha |
| 09:13.07 | bobnormal | i live in china |
| 09:13.22 | sumasuma | bobnormal: i can say in billions |
| 09:13.34 | bobnormal | the only thing at a premium here is space: even rich people don't have space for unsaleable junk |
| 09:14.02 | sumasuma | ha ha, very nice to hear |
| 09:15.19 | benjk | bobnormal, I know this because I have been to a number of factories and talked to the folks who make/made those cards |
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| 09:16.12 | roguebug | hi |
| 09:16.14 | benjk | try to buy the cards in China and you will find that most will not have them, they will tell you to wait because they don't want to lose your business but they will call around and try to find another factory that still has stock |
| 09:16.22 | sumasuma | hi roguebug |
| 09:16.49 | roguebug | hi sumasuma |
| 09:17.14 | benjk | in the end you'll find a very few places who can deliver and if you poke around long enough you will find that they are based on refurbed or reject chips |
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| 09:17.26 | _omer | hi |
| 09:17.36 | roguebug | benjk: which cards? |
| 09:17.50 | ANTILOCAS | the x100p |
| 09:17.53 | benjk | Ambient MD3200 based softmodem cards |
| 09:17.58 | _omer | I just installed the latest SOX but it doesnt support MP3 files....any help? |
| 09:18.13 | benjk | you need to install madlib first |
| 09:18.16 | bobnormal | i just searched online and had them sent by mail, it worked fine first try, i cant really comment except to say that if it didn't work i would have returned it |
| 09:18.28 | roguebug | _omer: it doesn't support mp3 ouput or input as well? mine inputs mp3 fine, just doesn't encode |
| 09:18.30 | phearless | anybody can answer my question ? |
| 09:18.38 | _omer | benjk: madlib? |
| 09:18.42 | benjk | you probably ordered 2 or 5 |
| 09:18.51 | benjk | try to aks for a few hundred or thousand |
| 09:19.17 | benjk | then you;ll discover that they are not that easy to come by |
| 09:19.21 | _omer | roguebug : yes...I do see MP3 format supported when I do "sox -h" ... |
| 09:19.23 | roguebug | benjk: whew, r u buying thousands of cards? are you a reseller, a telecom operator? |
| 09:19.26 | sumasuma | _omerL get mp3 format from asterisk addons |
| 09:19.29 | _omer | roguebug : yes...I DONT see MP3 format supported when I do "sox -h" ... |
| 09:19.54 | benjk | I was trying to establish a business case for getting Japanese type approval and import them into Japan |
| 09:20.14 | _omer | sumasuma : any URL to get more info about Asterisk addons mp3 ? |
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| 09:20.23 | roguebug | _omer: well, i don't know then (i have mp3 there) must be the madlib thing benjk said |
| 09:20.28 | sumasuma | http://www.asterisk.org/download |
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| 09:20.37 | benjk | and when I visited the factories who said they were able to provide larger numbers, they told me that they can no longer get new chips |
| 09:20.54 | _omer | ok I check addons, madlib as well :) |
| 09:21.43 | bobnormal | benjk: it could be that they are making excuses as theres too much stock about, too much competition and margins are too low... what quantities were you talking about? |
| 09:22.00 | benjk | no, its about covering their asses |
| 09:22.22 | hoytbowUE | Can anyone please tell me how to get the mysql cdr support going in 1.2.x, I have downloaded latest tarball for asterisk-addons and latest trunk svn and when I compile res_config_mysql.so is not there... |
| 09:22.35 | benjk | if you get to working out a contract and there are the usual quality clauses that Japanese importers would ask for, they no longer lie to you |
| 09:23.12 | _omer | benjk : whats the name of the package? |
| 09:23.18 | _omer | benjk : whats the name of the package? I mean madlib? |
| 09:24.04 | benjk | I actually told them that the price is not much of an issue in Japan, you could sell those cards here for 100 USD a piece if they had Japanese type approval and were sold by a Japanese importer |
| 09:24.39 | bobnormal | getting approval takes time and costs money though |
| 09:24.44 | bobnormal | i did that for some hardware in australia once |
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| 09:24.55 | benjk | I know how to do the approval in Japan |
| 09:24.56 | bobnormal | my cards have german approval :) |
| 09:25.00 | benjk | been there done that |
| 09:25.01 | roguebug | _omer: i don't think madlib is in asterisk download ... so you'll have to install it as a package from your distribution, so the name depends on your distribution |
| 09:25.11 | roguebug | _omer: for mandriva, it's libmad0 |
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| 09:25.25 | _omer | for FC4 and RH9 ? |
| 09:25.26 | _omer | :) |
| 09:25.43 | benjk | isnt' there some site for package search |
| 09:25.58 | benjk | rpmsearch.com or something like that |
| 09:25.59 | roguebug | _omer: no idea, make a grep mad on a rh/fc package repository |
| 09:26.13 | _omer | ok |
| 09:26.13 | JT | bobnormal: how much, how, etc, for .au approval? |
| 09:27.14 | bobnormal | jt: you have to go through an accredited lab, and it depends what kind of approval you want. telephony approval is only one, for closed units you also have to do emmissions and other things |
| 09:27.27 | bobnormal | jt: if its only a pci card, you'd only do the telephony approval |
| 09:27.42 | JT | a-tick yeah |
| 09:28.06 | bobnormal | jt: if you're interested i'll find the lab i used last time, its in chatswood sydney |
| 09:28.17 | JT | semi interested |
| 09:28.24 | JT | how many figures is the cost? |
| 09:28.52 | roguebug | i'd like the caller to hear (while my phone rings) an alternating sequence of two ringtones then 10 sec moh (and so on). is there a cleaner way to do that than to (a) place alternating Dial commands without and with moh or (b) embed the ringtones into the moh soundfile? what would the clean solution be? |
| 09:28.54 | bobnormal | jt: http://www.austest.com.au/ ... five figures i'd say, maybe four if you're lucky |
| 09:29.15 | JT | damn |
| 09:29.23 | JT | i think i'll let the card mfgr deal with that then |
| 09:29.32 | bobnormal | jt: or maybe this one .. http://www.tcaust.com/ .. they're both in chats |
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| 09:29.45 | bobnormal | jt: normally if you become an exclusive distributor without signing that expense in to the agreement its up to you |
| 09:30.15 | benjk | roguebug, check out app_dial.c |
| 09:30.20 | JT | not planning to |
| 09:30.25 | bobnormal | jt: what kind of cards do you sell? |
| 09:30.43 | JT | the mfgr said they were working on a-tick |
| 09:30.46 | JT | i just want to buy |
| 09:30.48 | JT | not sell :) |
| 09:31.49 | bobnormal | jt: you can buy anyway, its illegal to plug in the stuff but if you say its for in-house testing they'll sell it to you anyway :P |
| 09:32.09 | bobnormal | jt: what kind of cards? |
| 09:33.06 | JT | bobnormal: testing of course... |
| 09:33.14 | JT | junghanns octoBRI |
| 09:34.36 | bobnormal | jt: cool, wish i had a use for something that size :) |
| 09:35.05 | hoytbowUE | Can anyone please tell me how to get the mysql cdr support going in 1.2.x, I have downloaded latest tarball for asterisk-addons and latest trunk svn and when I compile res_config_mysql.so is not there... Mysql-server 4.1.11 and the dev pkg are install |
| 09:35.24 | roguebug | ahm dial macros? |
| 09:35.40 | roguebug | that what you meant benjk? |
| 09:35.50 | JT | bobnormal: reason for so many ports is using asterisk as a voip gateway, intercepting a digital pabx |
| 09:36.18 | ANTILOCAS | this chan is great u r nice people, i hope u continue sharing |
| 09:36.46 | benjk | roguebug, no, I mean the Dial application, the source code for that shows you how Dial makes the ringtones |
| 09:36.56 | JT | octobri is way cheaper direct from junhanns than from resellers |
| 09:36.57 | JT | btw |
| 09:37.06 | benjk | you should be able to alter the tones |
| 09:38.03 | roguebug | ah ok (looking again) |
| 09:38.56 | sumasuma | asterisk supports refer, subscribe with sip ? |
| 09:39.29 | benjk | I think there are some issues with subscribe and notify still |
| 09:39.48 | benjk | oej was talking about how it would be improved in 1.4 |
| 09:40.28 | benjk | JT, did you see the new miniBRI card? |
| 09:40.43 | benjk | http://www.junghanns.net/images/miniPCI_quadBRI_big.jpg |
| 09:41.32 | benjk | kapejod said it would start shipping some time this month |
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| 09:44.35 | JT | benjk: yeah looks sweet |
| 09:44.44 | JT | opens up some applications eh |
| 09:44.54 | benjk | you can use that with the WRAP |
| 09:45.09 | JT | wrap? |
| 09:45.19 | JT | kapejod? |
| 09:45.21 | benjk | www.pcengines.ch |
| 09:45.40 | benjk | http://www.pcengines.ch/pic/wrap1c1.jpg |
| 09:46.22 | roguebug | benjk:: how much do they cost (both the miniBRI and the WRAP)? |
| 09:46.59 | benjk | kapejod didn't have a price yet for the miniBRI |
| 09:47.26 | benjk | the WRAP boards are well under 200 bucks depending on volume and version |
| 09:48.16 | roguebug | ok thx |
| 09:49.52 | benjk | JT, kapejod == klaus peter junghanns |
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| 09:52.58 | candyban | Hi guys |
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| 09:55.14 | candyban | I would like to install a digital phone system at home mainly for calling inside the house but with the ability to use either my analogue line or using some service which allows me to call land-lines via the internet |
| 09:55.47 | phearless | on my cisco phone, in SIP<macaddress>.cnf , should I add in line1_name etc all the lines of the office, or just the line of the phone ? |
| 09:56.49 | candyban | I would like to buy some digital phones (e.g. siemens optiset) ... can I use asterisk for this and which other hardware do I need? Is there a place where total newbees can find information on hardware requirements? |
| 09:58.25 | bobnormal | candyban: AFAIK any phone with SIP support will work |
| 10:00.37 | roguebug | candyban: just be careful not to buy proprietary "system phones" that only work with a pbx from the same manufacturer |
| 10:00.55 | roguebug | candyban: if you buy new, buy sip phones |
| 10:00.56 | candyban | bobnormal: I am currently looking at Siemens Hicom 150 Office |
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| 10:01.09 | candyban | roguebug: I was looking on eBay |
| 10:01.33 | roguebug | candyban: there are plenty sip phones from many manufacturers on ebay |
| 10:02.04 | roguebug | candyban: as for the hicom: i don't know about the 150, but some hicom phones do only work with a hicom pbx |
| 10:02.30 | candyban | roguebug: I thought the 150 was the pbx? |
| 10:02.43 | roguebug | possible, i don't know it |
| 10:02.59 | roguebug | candyban: in here, most people have asterisk as their pbx |
| 10:04.06 | phearless | on my cisco phone, in SIP<macaddress>.cnf , should I add in line1_name etc all the lines of the office, or just the line of the phone ? |
| 10:04.13 | roguebug | candyban: and since asterisk does more and is more flexible than any hard-wired pbx, most people in here don't buy black-box hardwired pbxes but just phones |
| 10:04.14 | candyban | I have had the idea of a digital phone system for a long time, this year I bought a house and I will do some thourough renovations ... At the moment I have only a very small idea what I need for this. |
| 10:05.21 | candyban | roguebox: How do these phones connect to the asterisk box? Using just ethernet or PoE or directly patched into the pbx (using some Digium cards) |
| 10:05.42 | roguebug | candyban: sip phones go with standard cheap-ass ethernet |
| 10:06.02 | roguebug | candyban: isdn phones need an nt-capable isdn card |
| 10:06.19 | candyban | roguebox: which phones would you suggest? |
| 10:06.20 | roguebug | candyban: for analog phones, there are several cards |
| 10:06.44 | roguebug | candyban: as i said, i'd strongly recommend sip phones |
| 10:07.08 | roguebug | i don't have any manufacturer specific recommendation though |
| 10:07.39 | my007ms | sure Cisco is the beast u can have :d |
| 10:07.48 | roguebug | ;-) yeah |
| 10:08.08 | roguebug | buy ten of those (if the mortgage is already paid off, that is) |
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| 10:11.11 | roguebug | speaking of cisco, did anyone in here test the Linksys phones? the SPA-841 looks quite cisco-like for a fraction of the price? |
| 10:11.30 | candyban | How many copper pairs do these phones need? Is 2 pairs sufficient? So that I can use 1 CAT5 cable for 2 separate lines? The number of vertical cables might be limited. |
| 10:11.46 | candyban | Without the need of an additional switch |
| 10:12.02 | roguebug | candyban: a switch is 8 bucks |
| 10:12.28 | candyban | roguebug: yes, but you need to have space and power |
| 10:13.20 | candyban | roguebug: nevermind |
| 10:13.34 | roguebug | candyban: anyways, they are just ethernet TCP/IP devices, so if you stick with 100baseT, you can go with 2 twisted pairs per connection (so 2 ethernet lines per cat5 cable). however: a) it's not clean, and b) you'll have fun wiring that, cause all wiring tools aren't made for that |
| 10:14.09 | roguebug | as for the power, you could also use power over ethernet |
| 10:14.31 | bobnormal | haha :) |
| 10:14.32 | candyban | roguebug: I thought 100baseT required 3 pairs (10baseT requires 2 pairs) |
| 10:14.54 | roguebug | still on poe: if you have a poe-enabled switch that is (costs more than the 8 bucks i said before) |
| 10:15.26 | roguebug | candyban: afaik: 10baseT and 100baseT both require 2, 1000baseT requires all 4 |
| 10:15.30 | candyban | anyways ... I'll solve the problem if it arrives |
| 10:16.02 | candyban | roguebug: so in theory you could do 100baseT on CAT3? |
| 10:17.09 | phearless | on my cisco phone, in SIP<macaddress>.cnf , should I add in line1_name etc all the lines of the office, or just the line of the phone ? |
| 10:17.12 | roguebug | ? i don't see how you deduce that from what i said. the cable categories are about much more than just the number of wire pairs (which is generally 4 pairs on pretty much every eth cable today) |
| 10:17.12 | candyban | like I said, nevermind ... I'll fix it if it needs to be fixed ... I'll not worry about some minor technical issues at this point ... I'll buy SIP phones :) |
| 10:17.59 | roguebug | completely unrelated: i'd like to create a simple 2 or 3 second wav file (16 bit mono 8kHz) with two sine waves (440 and 480 Hz) mixed together. what (linux) program does that easily? |
| 10:18.36 | roguebug | (yeah i know i can generate tones in asterisk, but i need that one in a sound file) |
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| 10:23.15 | candyban | roguebug: I checked wikipedia and appearently I had some really weird ideas about CAT3, number of pairs used by 100base-TX, ... |
| 10:23.27 | candyban | roguebug: thanks for pointing that out to me :) |
| 10:23.36 | roguebug | np |
| 10:23.58 | benjk | Japanese authorities arrested a Japanese guy today as he had made 30.000 calls to directory enquiries without ever saying anyting |
| 10:24.27 | roguebug | lol |
| 10:24.31 | benjk | he said he liked to listen to the nice female voices at the other end |
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| 10:25.02 | roguebug | and is there a law agains that (i mean, admittedly it's weird, but is it illegal, if he pays for the service)? |
| 10:25.33 | roguebug | are directory enquiries even a pay-for-service in japan? |
| 10:25.41 | benjk | well, it probably qualifies for indecent calls or something like that |
| 10:25.59 | roguebug | sheit, so it's indecent to not speak? |
| 10:26.01 | benjk | directory enquiries is free |
| 10:26.08 | roguebug | oh ok then it's different |
| 10:26.16 | roguebug | they should just charge for it, then |
| 10:26.27 | roguebug | would avoid thiss kind of weirdos |
| 10:26.32 | benjk | well, indecent is perhaps not the right word, but it certainly is a form of nuisance call |
| 10:26.52 | creativx | now that is dedication |
| 10:26.53 | roguebug | see, if it's a pay service, they wouldn't care |
| 10:26.55 | benjk | the charge is applied when you get a number |
| 10:27.03 | benjk | not when the call is being picked up |
| 10:27.12 | roguebug | they should charge from the beginning |
| 10:27.26 | benjk | that would cause a major upset |
| 10:27.52 | candyban | I just wonder how long it took this guy for making the 30.000 phone calls ... |
| 10:27.53 | benjk | and it would probably trigger some court cases too |
| 10:28.27 | roguebug | well, i believe that's what they did in europe (it was a free service before too, but it's pay only now, already five or ten years now) |
| 10:28.40 | benjk | becuase you are not supposed to charge for a service that you don't deliver, so if the number you asked for cannot be found (happens a lot because of no-spelling rules for how foreign names are spelled in Japanese) then you wouldn't want t pay |
| 10:29.04 | benjk | yeah but in Europe it is clear how you spell names |
| 10:29.17 | benjk | there are no spelling rules for non-Japanese words in Japanese |
| 10:29.43 | benjk | and more and more companies use foreign names or foreign sounding names which cannot be written in Japanese |
| 10:30.46 | benjk | I find Japanese directory enquiries totally useless for looking up company phone numbers |
| 10:31.11 | benjk | unless its somehting like NEC, or Fujitsu, they won't find it anyway |
| 10:31.15 | Ciber311 | don't feel bad, they are useless in the US too |
| 10:32.12 | roguebug | Ciber311: but they charge for their uselessness in the US, don't they? |
| 10:32.18 | Ciber311 | no |
| 10:32.22 | Ciber311 | only if you get a number |
| 10:32.24 | benjk | do they charge before you get a number? |
| 10:32.26 | Ciber311 | no |
| 10:32.28 | benjk | see |
| 10:32.33 | Ciber311 | that'd be stupid |
| 10:32.47 | roguebug | actually, maybe in europe they also only charge if you get a number, i'm not sure about that |
| 10:32.49 | Ciber311 | not like it matters |
| 10:32.51 | roguebug | i never use them |
| 10:32.56 | Ciber311 | they give you wrong numbers all the time |
| 10:33.03 | Ciber311 | so you get charged for a useless number |
| 10:33.03 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 10:33.06 | roguebug | lol |
| 10:33.08 | benjk | in that case it won't deter anyone who makes nuisance calls |
| 10:33.35 | hwt | i did a 'sip debug ip x.x.x.x'. how do i disable again? |
| 10:33.39 | Ciber311 | benjk: in the US that guy would of got like a 130 years in jail |
| 10:33.54 | roguebug | guantanamo even |
| 10:34.03 | Ciber311 | 30, 000 counts of some stupid retarded law |
| 10:34.09 | Ciber311 | that's the fun thing about the US |
| 10:34.13 | Ciber311 | we have laws for everything |
| 10:34.18 | benjk | I presume NTT was able to show that those 30.000 calls had cost them XXX yen and that then amounts to commercial damage or something |
| 10:34.27 | Ciber311 | even giving blowjobs and crap is supposedly illegal |
| 10:34.42 | benjk | I wonder how long this was going on |
| 10:34.54 | Ciber311 | who knows |
| 10:35.01 | Ciber311 | japanese men are crazy pervs :P |
| 10:35.07 | benjk | if you made 100 calls a day, then it would still take you almost a year to make 30.000 calls |
| 10:35.27 | hwt | 'sip no debug' |
| 10:35.30 | Ciber311 | i remember a story of a guy out here that got caught with years worth of college girls panties |
| 10:35.38 | roguebug | lol |
| 10:35.39 | Ciber311 | he raided the laundry facilities of the colleges |
| 10:35.52 | roguebug | Ciber311: and there aren't any such pervs in the US ? |
| 10:35.53 | Ciber311 | on like a daily basis for years lol |
| 10:35.57 | Ciber311 | yes |
| 10:36.02 | Ciber311 | the guy i'm talking about |
| 10:36.06 | Ciber311 | he was japanese :P |
| 10:36.11 | benjk | they have panty dispensing vending machines over here |
| 10:36.15 | roguebug | lool |
| 10:36.23 | benjk | used panties, reportedly |
| 10:36.27 | Ciber311 | yeah |
| 10:36.27 | roguebug | special machines for pervs? |
| 10:36.34 | benjk | yeah, something like that |
| 10:36.34 | Ciber311 | you guys have a thing for sniffing panties |
| 10:36.37 | Ciber311 | that's just weird |
| 10:36.40 | Ciber311 | i mean wtf |
| 10:36.44 | benjk | yeah |
| 10:36.56 | benjk | Japanese guys are a crazy lot |
| 10:37.09 | Ciber311 | i have never even THOUGHT of sniffing my wife's panties, much less had an urge to do it |
| 10:37.27 | benjk | I think the Japanese will say the same thing |
| 10:37.31 | Ciber311 | i guess they're just wired different |
| 10:37.42 | benjk | they are only nterested in panties of young unmarried girls |
| 10:37.50 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 10:38.01 | Ciber311 | well my wife was young and unmarried |
| 10:38.05 | Ciber311 | i'm only 24 :P |
| 10:38.09 | benjk | was |
| 10:38.13 | benjk | that's the point ;) |
| 10:38.25 | Ciber311 | well i never thought of it then either |
| 10:38.30 | roguebug | i've seen a japanese boysband video once, it would also go by "weird" over here. i think it was called "yatta", was supposed to be some kind of internet hype. the guys were all dressed only in briefs |
| 10:38.48 | benjk | yada? |
| 10:39.02 | Ciber311 | and don't forget the constant molesting on the trains |
| 10:39.08 | benjk | young girls always say "yada" |
| 10:39.22 | roguebug | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yatta |
| 10:40.01 | benjk | literally it means "I hate this" but its more like "go away" or "no kidding" or "you're joking" or "stop it" |
| 10:40.10 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 10:40.26 | benjk | some guy told me the story of his friend who was new here |
| 10:40.29 | roguebug | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6616479032362244465 |
| 10:40.42 | roguebug | i thouth yatta meant "i did it!" |
| 10:40.48 | benjk | his friend had scored with a Japanese girl he met in a disco and had a good time back at his place |
| 10:41.12 | mut | did she have super fucked up teeth |
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| 10:41.18 | benjk | and he was telling his buddy (my firend) proudly how much the girl liked his performance |
| 10:41.23 | Ciber311 | here you go guys http://youtube.com/watch?v=HF1r5FwNzK4 |
| 10:41.33 | benjk | she was screaming "yada yada yada" all the time |
| 10:41.54 | Ciber311 | no wonder the guy's fingers/hands wander hahaha |
| 10:42.05 | Ciber311 | imagine you're in a train that packed |
| 10:42.12 | Ciber311 | and your hand is right on some chick's butt... |
| 10:42.30 | benjk | never happened to me and I have been in very crowded trains, trust me |
| 10:42.42 | Ciber311 | what never happened? |
| 10:42.53 | benjk | I am sure those guys have to actively make their hands find that butt |
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| 10:43.16 | Ciber311 | oh i'm sure they do |
| 10:43.29 | benjk | never happened to me that my hands would have touched someone's butt, accidentally or not |
| 10:43.56 | roguebug | aw, that's something different |
| 10:44.02 | roguebug | i'm sorry dude |
| 10:44.23 | benjk | one funny story was about a guy who got arrested by a female police officer on her way to work ;) |
| 10:44.31 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 10:44.39 | benjk | he had apparently picked the wrong victim |
| 10:45.03 | Ciber311 | someone ever messed with my wife on a train in japan |
| 10:45.18 | Ciber311 | i'd show him how we handle pervs like that in nyc |
| 10:45.25 | benjk | I'll chop their dick off |
| 10:45.32 | Ciber311 | i'd throw his ass into the subway tracks |
| 10:45.37 | Ciber311 | after a good beating |
| 10:45.43 | benjk | that's too mild |
| 10:45.49 | benjk | chop their dick off |
| 10:46.06 | Ciber311 | i'd need too much equipment to see it and then grab it |
| 10:46.11 | Ciber311 | :P |
| 10:46.34 | benjk | The Japanese probably have a robot that can perform the task |
| 10:46.43 | Ciber311 | probably |
| 10:46.50 | candyban | Is there a benefit of taking IAX/IAX2 enabled phones over phones which just have SIP? |
| 10:46.57 | *** join/#asterisk sip_me (n=ask@80.179.11.31.static.012.net.il) |
| 10:47.09 | benjk | sure, no NAT issues ever |
| 10:47.12 | candyban | or H3.23 |
| 10:47.14 | Ciber311 | yep |
| 10:47.19 | benjk | same thig |
| 10:47.28 | roguebug | h323 is a lil outdated though |
| 10:47.33 | Ciber311 | so benjk what the heck are you doing in japan? |
| 10:47.34 | roguebug | (my opinion) |
| 10:47.39 | benjk | the downside is that there are far fewer IAX speaking phones than those which do SIP |
| 10:47.49 | benjk | I life here |
| 10:47.52 | benjk | live |
| 10:47.56 | Ciber311 | easy, don't get a iax phone |
| 10:47.59 | Ciber311 | get a sip phone |
| 10:48.11 | Ciber311 | and use iax from provider to your *box |
| 10:48.27 | roguebug | but hey, if he uses the phones in-house with an asterisk, there aren't any nat problems anyways |
| 10:48.28 | bobnormal | candyban: AFAIK H.323 can't handle NAT, whereas SIP can do NAT if you force it or use STUN |
| 10:48.36 | Ciber311 | yeah roguebug |
| 10:48.37 | Ciber311 | hehe |
| 10:48.38 | benjk | if the phone is only going to connect via the LAN to your Asterisk box on the same LAN, then SIP is no issue |
| 10:48.42 | candyban | Isn't the SIP or IAX phone going to connect to my own asterisk PBX which in it's turn can pass it any way it sees fit? |
| 10:49.01 | roguebug | yes |
| 10:49.10 | benjk | with serious security implications though |
| 10:49.15 | roguebug | ? |
| 10:49.19 | benjk | SIP NAT is always a hack |
| 10:50.42 | roguebug | ah |
| 10:50.42 | roguebug | but again, he doesn't have to let sip go through the nat |
| 10:50.42 | benjk | it pokes holes into your firewall |
| 10:50.43 | Ciber311 | you've always lived there benjk ? |
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| 10:50.43 | benjk | and textual protocols are always more vulnerable than binary ones |
| 10:50.43 | roguebug | his asterisk is loooocaaaal |
| 10:50.43 | candyban | So ... with asterisk any IP phone would do? |
| 10:50.43 | roguebug | yeah, pretty much |
| 10:50.43 | benjk | that's what I said, didn't I |
| 10:51.46 | benjk | Ciber311, on and off since about 1992 |
| 10:51.46 | Ciber311 | military? |
| 10:51.46 | benjk | no |
| 10:51.46 | Ciber311 | cool |
| 10:51.47 | benjk | I was first sent here by a French bank |
| 10:51.47 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 10:51.47 | Ciber311 | that's good, means you got away from the french :P |
| 10:51.47 | DarKnesS_WolF | what soultions to save incoming faxes as a pdf into a directory ? |
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| 10:51.47 | candyban | thanks guys |
| 10:51.47 | benjk | I like the French |
| 10:51.47 | Ciber311 | you're french? :P |
| 10:51.47 | roguebug | Ciber311: anything against the french? |
| 10:52.48 | backblue | hi, does anyone know, where i can find one .sql file, to create the sql struct to the realtime database? damm voip-info allways retarded. |
| 10:52.48 | benjk | no I am not, but I used to live in France and I have only good experiences and memories |
| 10:52.48 | Ciber311 | roguebug: isn't it universal to joke around with the french? |
| 10:53.30 | benjk | there's a saying in several European languages that goes "living like (a) god in France" |
| 10:53.30 | Ciber311 | but roguebug, in all honesty, i've only met one nice french person in my life |
| 10:53.31 | Ciber311 | :P |
| 10:53.31 | roguebug | Ciber311: ahm maybe in the US. over here in europe, i know more jokes about the americans (especially since dubbya is pres) |
| 10:53.31 | Ciber311 | and that was a owner of a restaurant in montreal |
| 10:53.31 | Ciber311 | really nice guy |
| 10:53.31 | benjk | and for all I can say, there is a whole lot of truth about that saying |
| 10:55.01 | benjk | When I go to France, it always feels like coming home, even though I am not French |
| 10:55.01 | backblue | american's, thinks all the world goes arround them.. |
| 10:55.01 | Ciber311 | lol, i'm not american :) |
| 10:55.02 | backblue | we are not talking about you anyway. |
| 10:55.02 | Ciber311 | but what you said is true :P |
| 10:56.03 | Ciber311 | for the most part anyway |
| 10:56.03 | benjk | that reminds me of a very funny map of the world |
| 10:56.03 | benjk | it was a jokingly american view of the world |
| 10:57.07 | Ciber311 | most don't even know the names/locations of the other countries continents so that must of been an interesting view |
| 10:57.07 | benjk | http://www.welfarestate.com/map/ |
| 10:57.50 | Ciber311 | looks about right |
| 10:57.50 | Ciber311 | :P |
| 10:57.50 | benjk | Hahaha |
| 10:57.50 | benjk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/29/google_bush_map/ |
| 10:59.16 | Ciber311 | obviously canada is left in case they need more space |
| 10:59.58 | benjk | but the one I saw was much more funny |
| 10:59.59 | backblue | in sip.conf password's are in password= field or in secret= field? |
| 10:59.59 | Ciber311 | secret |
| 10:59.59 | benjk | it had European countries labelled by things like "Wine", "Cheese", "Beer" and stuff like that |
| 11:01.17 | benjk | and Australia was labelled "Kangaroos" |
| 11:01.17 | backblue | D |
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| 11:01.17 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 11:01.17 | backblue | :D |
| 11:01.17 | backblue | mine comes with wine i think |
| 11:01.18 | backblue | beer too |
| 11:01.18 | Ciber311 | italy? |
| 11:01.18 | Ciber311 | ferrari's |
| 11:01.18 | benjk | The Arabian peninsula was labelled "Oil" |
| 11:01.18 | benjk | The Sahara was labelled "Lots of sand" |
| 11:01.18 | backblue | france -> mushrooms |
| 11:01.18 | Ciber311 | i figured it would of said something like hairy armpits |
| 11:02.27 | benjk | France was definitely Wine and Cheese |
| 11:02.28 | Ciber311 | oh |
| 11:02.28 | backblue | wine it's portugal |
| 11:02.28 | benjk | I think Germany was Sausages |
| 11:02.28 | backblue | vinho do porto, owns all the wine |
| 11:02.28 | backblue | :o |
| 11:02.28 | Ciber311 | benjk: germany should say "bmw's and benz" |
| 11:02.28 | backblue | i think it won, the european contest of something about wines... |
| 11:02.28 | benjk | it wasn't actually with borders |
| 11:02.28 | Ciber311 | would make more sense to the yuppies |
| 11:03.12 | backblue | Ciber311: and high tech comunications |
| 11:03.12 | benjk | it was just Europe without border lines but words like "Wine", "Cheese", "Sausages" etc etc all over the place |
| 11:03.12 | Ciber311 | who would trust the germans with communications gear |
| 11:04.17 | Ciber311 | electronics are the first things that fail and constantly in german products :P |
| 11:04.18 | benjk | I wouldn't know, the only German products I use are lenses |
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| 11:04.18 | benjk | old fashioned ones without built in electronics |
| 11:05.31 | backblue | german own |
| 11:05.31 | Ciber311 | german cars are well known for their electronics failures |
| 11:05.31 | backblue | they are very good |
| 11:05.31 | benjk | Zeiss |
| 11:05.31 | benjk | Carl Zeiss |
| 11:05.32 | backblue | Ciber311: yeah right, mercedes it's bad... |
| 11:05.32 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 11:05.32 | backblue | bmw's too |
| 11:05.32 | Ciber311 | you're kidding right? |
| 11:05.32 | Ciber311 | them and bw and audi... |
| 11:05.32 | benjk | I like what they are doing towards Hydrogen cars though |
| 11:05.32 | Ciber311 | very unreliable electronics |
| 11:05.32 | backblue | yes, the best mark of cars, laying arround |
| 11:05.32 | Ciber311 | and mercedes has the second worst out of all those |
| 11:05.32 | Ciber311 | VW is first |
| 11:05.32 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 11:06.57 | backblue | you must be joking, what will you say about pegeot, or fiat, or citroen |
| 11:06.57 | benjk | citroen is the most comfortable car |
| 11:06.57 | backblue | sorry, but i'm a litle in auto industry |
| 11:06.57 | Ciber311 | umm since when are all of those german backblue? |
| 11:06.57 | Ciber311 | :P |
| 11:06.57 | backblue | mercedes it's the top, just like bmw and audi |
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| 11:06.57 | backblue | Ciber311: well german cars, are the best cars |
| 11:06.57 | Ciber311 | umm mercedes has been doing terrible in reliability for years |
| 11:06.57 | benjk | nothing beats a Citroen in driving comfort |
| 11:06.58 | Ciber311 | going down for the last 10 years or so |
| 11:06.58 | backblue | i dont know even one german car, that haved given me troubles. |
| 11:06.58 | Ciber311 | even the ceo admitted it |
| 11:06.58 | Ciber311 | and now they are trying to fix all the issues |
| 11:07.58 | benjk | A friend of mine used to drive all over Europe as a traveling salesguy |
| 11:07.58 | backblue | yes, they have been better |
| 11:07.58 | Ciber311 | they did so much cost cutting that they hurt the products baaaaaaaad for years |
| 11:07.58 | benjk | he said you can drive from Stockholm to Munich in one go in a Merc |
| 11:07.58 | backblue | but comparing with the all other mark's, mercedes still owns. |
| 11:07.58 | benjk | but all the way to Istanbul you can only do it in a Citroen |
| 11:07.58 | Ciber311 | sorry to break it to you, but not in their current status or within the last 8 years or so |
| 11:07.58 | backblue | citroen sucks, all french car's sucks sorry |
| 11:08.46 | Ciber311 | they're improving things NOW |
| 11:08.46 | benjk | I would choose a French car over any German car any day of the week |
| 11:08.46 | Ciber311 | with the new ceo that promised to fix all the fuckups |
| 11:08.46 | roguebug | benjk: why that? |
| 11:08.46 | roguebug | backblue: how that? |
| 11:09.35 | backblue | i have a peugeot |
| 11:09.35 | roguebug | so? |
| 11:09.35 | benjk | the Germans design a car, high tech, gadgetry everything, and then when all is done they realise ... |
| 11:09.35 | benjk | Oh shit |
| 11:09.35 | backblue | omg, i never had a car that gives me so much problems |
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| 11:09.36 | benjk | 4 people need to go in there |
| 11:09.36 | benjk | then they put 4 wooden chairs in |
| 11:09.36 | darkgamer20 | dose anyone in here use or ever used a Dell Optiplex GX110 with an X100P card (an ambient modem)? cause I try to put it it but it just wont fit in, i tried it on a dimension 4400 it slids into the PCI easily, anyone know what the problem might be? |
| 11:09.36 | roguebug | benjk: ? |
| 11:09.36 | benjk | the French take 4 armchairs from their living room and design the car around it |
| 11:10.23 | backblue | i have a ford, from 1972, that works like a charm |
| 11:10.23 | Ciber311 | darkgamer20: you sure it's a pci slot? :P |
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| 11:10.23 | darkgamer20 | Ciber311: lol positive! haha |
| 11:10.56 | Ciber311 | just making sure |
| 11:10.57 | Ciber311 | check the edge |
| 11:10.57 | backblue | i have a suzuki, that it's wonderfull too, just like all the jap cards (forget yundai in that list) |
| 11:10.57 | Ciber311 | there should be a little space between the motherboard and the case |
| 11:10.57 | darkgamer20 | Ciber311: what do you mean edge? |
| 11:10.57 | benjk | Hyundai is not Japanese |
| 11:10.57 | Ciber311 | for that bit of the metal to go through |
| 11:11.38 | backblue | benjk: well, then forget it anyway! :D |
| 11:11.38 | darkgamer20 | Ciber311: actually the pci slots arent even on the motherboard |
| 11:11.38 | benjk | Hyundai is Korean |
| 11:11.38 | Ciber311 | riser? |
| 11:11.38 | backblue | hum, did not know that. |
| 11:12.25 | backblue | well honda,suzuki they are great cars. |
| 11:12.25 | Ciber311 | suzuki... lol |
| 11:12.25 | benjk | well, the Japanese have high quality control standards |
| 11:12.26 | backblue | the problem it's the price of the pieces. |
| 11:12.26 | Ciber311 | a tiny cardboard box with a motorcycle engine |
| 11:13.17 | backblue | Ciber311: dont you know any suzuki car? |
| 11:13.17 | benjk | yeah, they make very small ones |
| 11:13.18 | backblue | try one suzuki swift 1.3gti :D |
| 11:13.18 | backblue | you will like suzuki :P |
| 11:13.18 | benjk | yellow number plate ones |
| 11:13.18 | Ciber311 | backblue: i was exaggerating :P |
| 11:14.29 | Ciber311 | but basically they are puny cars with puny engines |
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| 11:14.30 | benjk | NEC make cars with built-in PBXes |
| 11:14.30 | backblue | yes, as all the european models. |
| 11:14.30 | benjk | Oh wait, they're not cars |
| 11:14.30 | Ciber311 | oh crap |
| 11:14.30 | Ciber311 | 7 am |
| 11:14.30 | Ciber311 | shit |
| 11:14.30 | backblue | only american models, have big muscle cars |
| 11:14.30 | benjk | analog port extension card: $6000 |
| 11:15.45 | Ciber311 | i'm gonna go to bed lol |
| 11:15.45 | backblue | mustangs and cars like that |
| 11:15.45 | benjk | eight analog ports |
| 11:15.45 | backblue | Ciber311: brasil? |
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| 11:15.45 | Ciber311 | benjk: you can hire a call center of indians/chinese for that much for a couple of years :P |
| 11:16.50 | benjk | but you still need a bunch of PSTN ports |
| 11:16.50 | backblue | Ciber311: hehehe |
| 11:16.50 | Ciber311 | backblue: nyc |
| 11:16.50 | backblue | Ciber311: well, someday i will live there! :D |
| 11:16.50 | benjk | however, NEC's analog card works well, it has received thousands of man years of tweaking |
| 11:16.50 | backblue | one of my dreams |
| 11:16.51 | Ciber311 | hehe |
| 11:16.51 | Ciber311 | it's fun :) |
| 11:16.51 | backblue | living in nyc |
| 11:16.51 | backblue | i have been there |
| 11:17.42 | backblue | 3 days only |
| 11:17.42 | backblue | love it. |
| 11:17.42 | Ciber311 | that's way too short |
| 11:17.42 | benjk | then again, ISDN beats analog any day of the week |
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| 11:17.42 | backblue | yes, but it was as much as i can get. |
| 11:17.43 | benjk | for less cost |
| 11:17.43 | E-bola | Have anybody tried using the nokia phones with asterisk? |
| 11:17.43 | benjk | I use my Nokia phone all the time with Asterisk |
| 11:17.43 | backblue | benjk: not for adsl. |
| 11:17.43 | E-bola | benjk: what model? |
| 11:18.28 | E-bola | i asume u mean as a sip client |
| 11:18.28 | benjk | I forgot the model number, but its a Symbian 6000 series one with 3G and multi-band GSM |
| 11:18.29 | E-bola | N80 or similar? |
| 11:18.29 | Ciber311 | backblue: where are you right now? |
| 11:19.30 | benjk | the model numbers are all screwed up in Japan |
| 11:19.30 | benjk | they call it the NK700MkII |
| 11:19.30 | E-bola | ohh hehe |
| 11:19.31 | benjk | but that's not the real model number from Nokia |
| 11:19.31 | backblue | Ciber311: portugal. |
| 11:19.31 | E-bola | but ur using the symbian based sip client that came with it? |
| 11:19.31 | Ciber311 | backblue: going to japan was one of my dreams lol |
| 11:19.31 | benjk | I think its a 6680 or something like that |
| 11:19.32 | Ciber311 | and chase schoolgirls around |
| 11:19.32 | Ciber311 | but i had to go and get married |
| 11:19.32 | backblue | i would like japan too |
| 11:20.55 | backblue | but not for living |
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| 11:20.55 | E-bola | benjk: so u connect with sip over 3G or? |
| 11:20.56 | benjk | anyway, it depend what you mean by "using with Asterisk" |
| 11:20.56 | backblue | i specialy like that countrys, because you can do everything in your car |
| 11:20.56 | backblue | i'm a car's fanatic |
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| 11:20.56 | backblue | in portugal, well if you change a wheel, well you get busted for life |
| 11:20.56 | Ciber311 | benjk: how old are you? :P |
| 11:20.56 | backblue | :o |
| 11:20.56 | Ciber311 | portugal... that sounds kinda boring |
| 11:20.56 | E-bola | benjk: I want a phone i can use as a sip device with asterisk, to make and receive calls over either a 3g network or a local wireless network |
| 11:22.24 | Ciber311 | can't be more boring than canada though |
| 11:22.24 | Ciber311 | now there's a boring place |
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| 11:22.24 | benjk | I use the phone over 3G and Bluetooth |
| 11:22.25 | benjk | BT only for presence |
| 11:22.25 | Ciber311 | hey dlynes_laptop |
| 11:22.25 | dlynes_laptop | morning, Ciber311 |
| 11:22.25 | Ciber311 | well |
| 11:22.25 | Ciber311 | it's good night for me |
| 11:22.25 | Ciber311 | i'm still up |
| 11:22.25 | Ciber311 | and about to go to bed |
| 11:23.24 | E-bola | benjk: how do u use it with asterisk? |
| 11:23.24 | benjk | hi dlynes |
| 11:23.24 | Ciber311 | almost 7:30 =( |
| 11:23.24 | dlynes_laptop | good morning, benjk |
| 11:23.24 | backblue | Ciber311: portugal, it's good for some reasons, well we dont have any bomb attacks in the markets, and we dont have petrol so dont have any wars or even any airplanes laying in the top of the buildings, very pacific country. |
| 11:23.24 | benjk | I have dynamic forwarding and BT based presence detection that turns the forwarding off |
| 11:23.24 | backblue | but very retarded troughout |
| 11:23.24 | Ciber311 | backblue: lol |
| 11:24.08 | Ciber311 | i still like living in nyc |
| 11:24.08 | benjk | I like NYC for you can get a real decent steak dinner there |
| 11:24.08 | Ciber311 | yup |
| 11:24.45 | Ciber311 | i had the worst steak ever in montreal |
| 11:24.45 | benjk | Ben Benson's is my favourite |
| 11:24.46 | Ciber311 | first steak i've ever sent back |
| 11:24.46 | backblue | i hate heating in nyc |
| 11:24.46 | backblue | very bad food |
| 11:24.46 | Ciber311 | did not even get a replacement steak |
| 11:24.46 | Ciber311 | just ate a salad |
| 11:25.30 | Ciber311 | backblue: tgi friday's is not real nyc food :P |
| 11:25.30 | backblue | well, in portugal we have one of the bests plates of the world |
| 11:25.30 | backblue | yes, i mention that in my mind |
| 11:26.14 | backblue | since i does not know anything in nyc, i just eated in the first place that was across the street |
| 11:26.14 | Ciber311 | yeah that's bad :P |
| 11:26.14 | backblue | and btw, i really enjoyed your hotdogs for $1 :) |
| 11:26.14 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 11:26.14 | backblue | eated about 2 or 3 before dinner |
| 11:26.14 | backblue | hehehe |
| 11:27.40 | benjk | Next time you go to NYC you go there ... http://www.benbensons.com/index2.htm |
| 11:27.40 | Ciber311 | i can't remember the last time i had one heh |
| 11:27.40 | Ciber311 | yeah they're pretty good |
| 11:27.40 | Ciber311 | lots of nice places in midtown |
| 11:27.40 | backblue | next time i go to NYC i will search for the cheesecake store i have seen in the tv, yes because cheese cake there its so good |
| 11:28.24 | benjk | yes NY cheese cake is superb |
| 11:28.24 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: Montreal's not known for the steak, but then again, you must've tried to find the worst possible steak restaurant to find one where you had to send the steak back |
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| 11:29.12 | Ciber311 | their excuse was "that's how we make it" lol |
| 11:29.12 | backblue | great web site |
| 11:29.12 | backblue | i dont like prety much of steak. |
| 11:30.10 | benjk | in NYC you can always go to a local diner and not be disappointed |
| 11:30.10 | backblue | well but if it's really god, and not hard to heat |
| 11:30.10 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: which restaurant was that? |
| 11:30.11 | Ciber311 | hell if i remember |
| 11:30.11 | Ciber311 | i don't even remember the names of the good ones |
| 11:30.11 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: you remember where that was? |
| 11:30.42 | Ciber311 | you're kidding right? |
| 11:30.42 | Ciber311 | i was there for like 4 days |
| 11:30.42 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: well, for next time you're going there |
| 11:30.42 | backblue | Ciber311: what car do you drive there? |
| 11:30.42 | Ciber311 | i don't really remember anything |
| 11:30.42 | Ciber311 | except the rude people :P |
| 11:30.42 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: Rue Crescent is one of the better streets to eat on |
| 11:30.42 | benjk | you were totally drunk, that's why |
| 11:30.58 | dlynes_laptop | benjk: yeah, no kidding |
| 11:30.58 | benjk | you eat on the street? |
| 11:30.58 | Ciber311 | backblue: g35 coupe |
| 11:31.10 | Ciber311 | i wasn't drunk lol |
| 11:31.10 | benjk | just kidding |
| 11:31.10 | dlynes_laptop | benjk: nah, but Rue Crescent is three bars high, five bars deep |
| 11:31.15 | Ciber311 | i just don't remember much |
| 11:31.23 | Ciber311 | the damn place was in french :P |
| 11:31.28 | benjk | never been to Canada, so I wouldn't know |
| 11:31.48 | roguebug | Long live Free Quebec! |
| 11:31.49 | backblue | Ciber311: this boy? http://www.psxextreme.com/wallpapers/psp/Infiniti-G35-Coupe.jpg |
| 11:31.49 | Ciber311 | benjk: fairly boring, don't bother |
| 11:31.57 | Ciber311 | yes |
| 11:32.00 | backblue | nice. |
| 11:32.06 | backblue | does not know this company |
| 11:32.10 | backblue | it's american? |
| 11:32.12 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 11:32.18 | Ciber311 | infiniti=nissan |
| 11:32.24 | backblue | hooo, so it's god. |
| 11:32.25 | roguebug | =renault |
| 11:32.26 | backblue | good |
| 11:32.27 | backblue | :) |
| 11:32.30 | dlynes_laptop | it's the luxury brand of nissan |
| 11:32.33 | dlynes_laptop | It's ugly |
| 11:32.50 | backblue | well i would prefer a skyline |
| 11:32.50 | benjk | Nissan == Nippon Sangyou == Japanese Industry |
| 11:33.10 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: skyline's only available in Asia, right? |
| 11:33.11 | roguebug | sure, but it happens to belong to renault |
| 11:33.19 | backblue | dlynes_laptop: offcourse not. |
| 11:33.38 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: ah...just something i heard from someone that's a major car buff |
| 11:33.39 | Ciber311 | backblue: that is the skyline :) |
| 11:33.45 | benjk | I loved my Renault R16 |
| 11:33.48 | backblue | well, i cannot have a skyline in my country, but in NORMAL countrys you can. |
| 11:33.48 | Ciber311 | in the US they call it g35 coupe |
| 11:33.57 | Ciber311 | but in japan it's called the skyline |
| 11:33.57 | Ciber311 | same car |
| 11:34.03 | backblue | Ciber311: not the same thing. |
| 11:34.11 | Ciber311 | current model is :) |
| 11:34.20 | backblue | what engine do you have there? |
| 11:34.22 | Ciber311 | same exact car |
| 11:34.31 | geoffl | Hi. I'm trying to add a TDM400P card to my system and I could do with some help. AFAICT, I've followed what ATFOT says but Linux doesn't seem to recognise the hardware. I'm running CentOS 4.3 and Red Hat hardware discovery recognised the new hardware. I've added the lines suggested to /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules, and recompiled zaptel but /dev/zap doesn't exist and ztcfg reports it can't open /dev/zap/ctl. Help!? |
| 11:34.42 | Ciber311 | http://www.infiniti.com/g_coupe/photos/exterior_photos.html |
| 11:34.44 | Ciber311 | better pics |
| 11:34.57 | benjk | sounds like you have a missing udev rule set |
| 11:35.03 | dlynes_laptop | geoffl: do an lsmod -> do you see wctdm loaded? |
| 11:35.25 | geoffl | nope - no wctdm |
| 11:35.35 | dlynes_laptop | geoffl: then the driver's not loaded |
| 11:35.57 | backblue | Ciber311: you right, it's a cleany and shinny version of skyline. |
| 11:36.00 | geoffl | Thanks - how do I load the driver? |
| 11:36.11 | backblue | skyline i would buy, have 400bhp |
| 11:36.13 | dlynes_laptop | geoffl: do you have wcfxo, wct4xxp, wct1xxp, wcusb or anything like that loaded? |
| 11:36.21 | backblue | this on you have, it's 280 bhp |
| 11:36.35 | backblue | but the engine it's allmost the same |
| 11:36.49 | geoffl | dlynes_laptop: AFAICT, no |
| 11:36.50 | Ciber311 | uhh |
| 11:36.54 | Ciber311 | it's 298 |
| 11:36.55 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 11:37.17 | backblue | yes that. |
| 11:37.22 | backblue | :) |
| 11:37.34 | backblue | well, you can do a nice drift with that. |
| 11:37.35 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: still not 400hp :) |
| 11:37.50 | backblue | and the chassis it's not the same. |
| 11:37.52 | Ciber311 | well neither is the standard japanese one |
| 11:38.01 | Ciber311 | backblue: you're talking about the OLD skyline |
| 11:38.05 | Ciber311 | the new one is the exact same car |
| 11:38.10 | Ciber311 | on the nissan fm platform |
| 11:38.14 | backblue | yes |
| 11:38.17 | backblue | you right |
| 11:38.18 | Ciber311 | which they share with the 350 z |
| 11:38.23 | backblue | y |
| 11:38.23 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: you just finished saying the g35 and the skyline were the same thing...now you're saying they're different |
| 11:38.27 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: make up your mind :) |
| 11:38.30 | backblue | 350z very nice |
| 11:38.53 | Ciber311 | dlynes_laptop: he's referring to the OLD skyline model which they don't build anymore |
| 11:38.57 | dlynes_laptop | ah |
| 11:39.02 | Ciber311 | i'm telling him the current skyline is the same car |
| 11:39.08 | Ciber311 | as the infiniti |
| 11:39.28 | Ciber311 | difference is marketing |
| 11:39.32 | dlynes_laptop | geoffl: It sounds like whatever you did to your udev rules, you didn't do correctly |
| 11:39.37 | Ciber311 | americans won't pay for a nissan :P |
| 11:39.48 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: really? |
| 11:39.55 | Ciber311 | yeah they're crazy |
| 11:39.58 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: in Canada, they're all over the damned place |
| 11:40.06 | dlynes_laptop | I'm sick of looking at them |
| 11:40.06 | backblue | Ciber311: why not? |
| 11:40.13 | Ciber311 | dlynes_laptop: i mean if they sold it here AS a nissan |
| 11:40.17 | backblue | i never have seen one. :) |
| 11:40.20 | Ciber311 | they sell like crazy as infiniti |
| 11:40.21 | backblue | you damm lucky guys |
| 11:40.26 | Ciber311 | as nissan they wouldn't |
| 11:40.32 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: no...I mean straight old nissan |
| 11:40.41 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: nissan and infinity are both popular here |
| 11:40.42 | Ciber311 | what the z's? |
| 11:40.45 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: nissan is more popular |
| 11:40.49 | Ciber311 | well i know |
| 11:40.53 | dlynes_laptop | 350z's are all over the damned place |
| 11:40.55 | Ciber311 | i see them all over in canada |
| 11:40.59 | dlynes_laptop | they're pretty cool looking |
| 11:41.01 | Ciber311 | i mean the skyline |
| 11:41.10 | Ciber311 | would not have sold nearly as well as a nissan |
| 11:41.20 | Ciber311 | and the margins would of been lower for them |
| 11:41.27 | Ciber311 | no one is gonna pay 45k for a nissan :P |
| 11:41.47 | backblue | in portugal we pay that for a simple audi. |
| 11:42.01 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: same here |
| 11:42.03 | Ciber311 | yeah but audi is luxury :P |
| 11:42.12 | Ciber311 | a g35 is 50k in canada heh |
| 11:42.26 | dlynes_laptop | no idea...no desire to buy an infinity |
| 11:42.27 | Ciber311 | you guys would not pay it if it said nissan on the back |
| 11:42.30 | Ciber311 | guaranteed |
| 11:42.34 | backblue | well i like muscle old fashion cars. |
| 11:42.40 | dlynes_laptop | I'd rather buy a nissan than an infinity, myself |
| 11:42.42 | backblue | mustangs |
| 11:42.43 | benjk | that would be a nice downpayment of a beach front property in Southern France |
| 11:42.51 | dlynes_laptop | mustang is a huge pos |
| 11:42.53 | Ciber311 | you'd be like "i can get a bmw for that price..." |
| 11:42.58 | geoffl | dlynes_laptop: http://pastebin.ca/123549 has the section I added to /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules |
| 11:42.59 | Ciber311 | dlynes_laptop: they're the same thing anyway :P |
| 11:43.12 | Ciber311 | it's just perception for the stupid people |
| 11:43.19 | dlynes_laptop | geoffl: yeah...not able to help you there...I'm not a redhat user |
| 11:43.30 | dlynes_laptop | geoffl: I use completely different udev rules |
| 11:43.39 | Ciber311 | just like people pay toyota an extra 20k for a camry that says lexus on the back |
| 11:43.55 | backblue | lexus are good cars |
| 11:43.58 | backblue | toyota too |
| 11:44.02 | geoffl | dlynes_laptop: Thanks anyway. |
| 11:44.03 | roguebug | speaking of real estate, do you guys know this page (the only REAL cool real estate page): http://www.vladi-private-islands.de/islandsforsale.html |
| 11:44.05 | dlynes_laptop | geoffl: my distribution uses a standard udev; redhat's is bastardized and twisted specifically for redhat/centos/fedora |
| 11:44.22 | dlynes_laptop | geoffl: those files you mention don't even exist on my system |
| 11:44.33 | roguebug | (surely as funny as a beach front property in Southern France) |
| 11:44.33 | Ciber311 | alrighty |
| 11:44.35 | Ciber311 | i'm off to bed |
| 11:44.38 | Ciber311 | before i die here |
| 11:44.42 | backblue | Ciber311: look |
| 11:44.45 | Ciber311 | freaking 8 am |
| 11:44.55 | backblue | Ciber311: how much as you for a normal apartment |
| 11:44.58 | backblue | in NYC? |
| 11:45.06 | backblue | like 2 bedrooms |
| 11:45.13 | roguebug | You can also do it the other way around: die here, then go to bed for a longer time |
| 11:45.13 | backblue | or something, how much would i pay? |
| 11:45.14 | benjk | beach front property in Southern France is definitely a bazillion times more worth than some crap car |
| 11:45.15 | Ciber311 | 2 bedrooms? |
| 11:45.18 | Ciber311 | depends where |
| 11:45.26 | Ciber311 | 1300+ |
| 11:45.29 | roguebug | benjik: http://www.vladi-private-islands.de/islandsforsale.html |
| 11:45.31 | backblue | well, not in manhantan |
| 11:45.40 | roguebug | how bout this kind of beach front property |
| 11:45.51 | benjk | cars lose value unless you seal them in a vacuum for 20-50 years |
| 11:45.59 | backblue | Ciber311: in manhantan? or far way? |
| 11:46.03 | geoffl | dlynes_laptop: looks like a 'net search for redhat problems with zaptel is in order - thanks again. |
| 11:46.08 | Ciber311 | backblue: yes |
| 11:46.10 | benjk | and you can always take a cab |
| 11:46.11 | backblue | benjk: yes, just like my ford. |
| 11:46.12 | Ciber311 | not really |
| 11:46.21 | Ciber311 | you can always get a place in the bronx hahaha |
| 11:46.23 | Ciber311 | or brooklyn |
| 11:46.24 | benjk | or buy some used car for 2K |
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| 11:46.27 | roguebug | backblue: but it's a ford |
| 11:46.27 | backblue | Ciber311: yes to which of the questions? |
| 11:46.30 | benjk | maybe even less |
| 11:46.33 | Ciber311 | get a apartment for 800 or something |
| 11:46.39 | Ciber311 | just hope you don't get mugged :P |
| 11:46.41 | benjk | then throw it away if it falls apart |
| 11:46.50 | backblue | but that it's in manhantan? |
| 11:47.01 | backblue | 1300+ = manhantan? |
| 11:47.01 | Ciber311 | the price i said? |
| 11:47.09 | Ciber311 | sure you can do that in manhattan |
| 11:47.18 | backblue | ok, just to have a clue |
| 11:47.23 | benjk | you can always take a cab in Manhattan of course |
| 11:47.29 | backblue | because if i go there, i would like to live in manhantan |
| 11:47.33 | Ciber311 | cab? |
| 11:47.34 | benjk | much better than driving |
| 11:47.37 | Ciber311 | take the damn subway |
| 11:47.44 | benjk | cheaper and you never need to worry about parking |
| 11:47.47 | backblue | yes, but i prefer to live in there really. |
| 11:47.50 | dlynes_laptop | geoffl: or you could try asking on #centos or #fedora |
| 11:48.05 | Ciber311 | alrighty |
| 11:48.05 | benjk | subway or cab |
| 11:48.08 | Ciber311 | bed time now |
| 11:48.11 | Ciber311 | night guys |
| 11:48.12 | benjk | either way better than owning a damned car |
| 11:48.15 | backblue | Ciber311: cya |
| 11:48.44 | backblue | benjk: in usa, how much do you pay for your taxeS? |
| 11:48.48 | backblue | tax's? |
| 11:48.59 | benjk | I don't know, I don't live in the US |
| 11:49.05 | backblue | hoo, ok. |
| 11:49.15 | benjk | I think the max income tax rate is 28% |
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| 11:49.24 | benjk | but I may be wrong on that |
| 11:49.34 | dlynes_laptop | nah...much lower than that, I think |
| 11:49.36 | roguebug | geoffl: or you could switch to a distro with less troubles |
| 11:49.43 | Ciber311 | much lower |
| 11:49.44 | dlynes_laptop | Americans' tax rate is lower than ours |
| 11:49.48 | dlynes_laptop | and even ours isn't that high |
| 11:49.53 | backblue | but, when do you pay tax? |
| 11:49.54 | Ciber311 | like 8% |
| 11:49.58 | backblue | every month? |
| 11:50.02 | benjk | income tax? |
| 11:50.11 | Ciber311 | canada is like an ass raping 20% |
| 11:50.13 | roguebug | benjk: where's 28% the max? |
| 11:50.16 | benjk | I don't think the maximum income tax rate is 8% |
| 11:50.21 | backblue | i think we are talking about diferent stuff |
| 11:50.30 | benjk | it may be 8 for the majority of folks but not the top rate |
| 11:50.31 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: it's higher than that |
| 11:50.32 | roguebug | in germany and france, it's around 50% |
| 11:50.42 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: Ours can be as high as 26% or so |
| 11:50.58 | benjk | yeah in many European countries the top income tax rate is around or even above 50% |
| 11:51.00 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: but in general, it's around 18-22% |
| 11:51.06 | benjk | like Sweden has 70% |
| 11:51.08 | backblue | well, here, per month, if i won about $1000 per month in my office, i have to pay about $300 to the state/government, and you in us |
| 11:51.12 | backblue | ? |
| 11:51.17 | benjk | and in some cases the formula even goes over 100% |
| 11:51.20 | Ciber311 | http://dab.nfc.usda.gov/pubs/docs/taxformulas/formulas/statecitycounty/taxny/taxny.html |
| 11:51.26 | Ciber311 | i knew i wasn't crazy |
| 11:51.27 | benjk | its a glitch the formula |
| 11:51.33 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: your office had a lottery? |
| 11:51.46 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: i think you mean you earned $1000/mo, not won |
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| 11:52.03 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: won means you didn't do anything to get the money...you just sat on your ass |
| 11:52.11 | benjk | dlynes, in many Latin languages earn == win |
| 11:52.18 | dlynes_laptop | benjk: ah |
| 11:52.25 | backblue | dlynes_laptop: lol, it's my profit/sallary |
| 11:52.33 | benjk | in French: "Je gagne 1000 dollars" |
| 11:52.35 | Ciber311 | http://www.taxadmin.org/FTA/rate/ind_inc.html |
| 11:52.44 | geoffl | roguebug: what do you suggest? FWIW, I'm using CentOS because that's what Asterisk@Home was using at the time I started and I hoped that what was good enough for that ought to be good enough for me! |
| 11:52.48 | backblue | dlynes_laptop: you are right, my bad english |
| 11:52.50 | dlynes_laptop | benjk: ah...ya, I know gagne means win :) |
| 11:52.57 | benjk | meaning I win 1000 dollars (literally) but "I earn 1000 dollars" (real meaning) |
| 11:53.09 | Ciber311 | as you can see benjk most of our max is in the 8-9 percent area |
| 11:53.19 | benjk | thats council taxes though |
| 11:53.24 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: that's federal, right? |
| 11:53.33 | Ciber311 | state |
| 11:53.35 | benjk | the federal income tax is extra |
| 11:53.42 | backblue | but, how much do you pay to the governament? |
| 11:53.43 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: you don't have federal tax? |
| 11:54.05 | benjk | I know that in the Reagan era it was lowered to something in the 20+ % |
| 11:54.07 | Ciber311 | like 2% or something silly like that |
| 11:54.14 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: Uncle George wants his cut as well |
| 11:54.22 | Ciber311 | we don't get raped like you guys |
| 11:54.24 | roguebug | geoffl: i was kiddin, i have no suggestion. personally i use suse for asterisk (though i'm no fan of suse) cause it's easy to set up with isdn. |
| 11:54.34 | Ciber311 | they have like 4 taxes in canada :P |
| 11:54.36 | benjk | if you add all the taxes up, you probably get a top rate of just under 30% in the US |
| 11:54.40 | Ciber311 | like 6-8% each |
| 11:54.52 | Ciber311 | my wife can't wait to get the fuck out of that leeching country :P |
| 11:54.55 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: i live in the most taxed province in Canada |
| 11:55.07 | backblue | Ciber311: in us, if you won about $1000 how much will you have for you? what taxes do you REALLY need to pay? |
| 11:55.09 | Ciber311 | couple of months and she'll be out of there |
| 11:55.14 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: Our provincial tax is 50% of the federal tax |
| 11:55.32 | roguebug | dlynes_laptop: what province do you live in? |
| 11:55.36 | dlynes_laptop | roguebug: BC |
| 11:55.38 | benjk | if you win 1000 dollars inthe lottery, the taxes are already deducted |
| 11:55.41 | Ciber311 | backblue: maybe 200 or so? |
| 11:55.42 | benjk | ;) |
| 11:55.45 | Ciber311 | maybe a bit less |
| 11:56.08 | mut | depends |
| 11:56.17 | dlynes_laptop | benjk: in Canada, the taxes aren't prededucted; it's non-taxable, period |
| 11:56.17 | backblue | Ciber311: that 200 of taxes, it's for paying what? |
| 11:56.18 | mut | if you win $1000 you may not need to pay anything |
| 11:56.39 | dlynes_laptop | benjk: life insurance, principle residence and lottery winnings are all non-taxable in Canada |
| 11:56.51 | Ciber311 | big deal |
| 11:56.52 | mut | you're allowed so much in 'gifts' a year |
| 11:56.57 | Ciber311 | they rape you on a daily basis |
| 11:57.00 | benjk | lottery wins are usually always paid out after deducting taxes because they don't want to risk losing the tax if you disappear with your win |
| 11:57.03 | dlynes_laptop | heheh |
| 11:57.05 | Ciber311 | 15% tax on purchases |
| 11:57.08 | Ciber311 | motherfuckers |
| 11:57.18 | Ciber311 | i would of burned your government down if it was mine |
| 11:57.20 | Ciber311 | wtf |
| 11:57.21 | Ciber311 | 15% |
| 11:57.25 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: gst is 6% now |
| 11:57.31 | Ciber311 | lol |
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| 11:57.34 | roguebug | 19% in germany, 19.6% in france |
| 11:57.35 | Ciber311 | still a ripoof |
| 11:57.35 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: what province has 9% provincial tax? |
| 11:57.48 | benjk | 5% in Japan |
| 11:57.48 | roguebug | sales tax i mean |
| 11:57.50 | Ciber311 | well wasn't it 8+8 before? |
| 11:57.57 | benjk | sales tax is not VAT |
| 11:58.06 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: gst was never 8%; it was always 7% |
| 11:58.12 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: nwo it's 6% |
| 11:58.20 | roguebug | ahm vat correct |
| 11:58.23 | roguebug | vat |
| 11:58.24 | Ciber311 | ok so it was still 15 then |
| 11:58.28 | Ciber311 | in ottawa at least |
| 11:58.29 | bagheaduk | hey everyone... is there anyway to monitor call progress in a reliable way on a sip trunk out? |
| 11:58.30 | benjk | VAT you pay only he bits on top that the merchandise got more expensive upon resale |
| 11:58.31 | Ciber311 | before it went down |
| 11:58.31 | backblue | 21 here |
| 11:58.43 | Ciber311 | i mean wow |
| 11:58.45 | benjk | sales tax you pay everytime the merchandise changes hands |
| 11:58.47 | dlynes_laptop | benjk: GST (Goods and Services Tax in Canada) is pretty much the same as VAT (value added tax); GST was based on VAT |
| 11:58.50 | Ciber311 | 15% tax and you have nothing to show for it |
| 11:58.58 | Ciber311 | canada basically spends nothing on defense etc |
| 11:59.03 | Ciber311 | wtf does all that money go |
| 11:59.07 | benjk | GST is VAT in some countries, sales/consumption tax in others |
| 11:59.12 | backblue | but i does not the same vat for everything |
| 11:59.25 | roguebug | Ciber311: "canada basically spends nothing on defense etc" ... unlike the US |
| 11:59.42 | Ciber311 | roguebug: at least we know where our tax dollars go :P |
| 11:59.44 | backblue | milk = 5%, coke = 21% |
| 11:59.45 | dlynes_laptop | roguebug: and your point? |
| 11:59.54 | roguebug | dlynes_laptop: about what? |
| 11:59.58 | backblue | Ciber311: yes, that's very good |
| 12:00.09 | dlynes_laptop | roguebug: about canada not psending anything on defense? |
| 12:00.12 | roguebug | Ciber311: that's true. our tax money disappears into black holes |
| 12:00.13 | benjk | I would impose tax on analog ports |
| 12:00.22 | benjk | and faxes sent |
| 12:00.25 | Ciber311 | ask a canadian where their tax money goes and they'll go "uhhh healthcare?" lol |
| 12:00.27 | Ciber311 | that's it |
| 12:00.29 | benjk | per fax and per page |
| 12:00.35 | roguebug | dlynes_laptop: was just making fun about the wars |
| 12:00.35 | benjk | 5 USD per fax |
| 12:00.37 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: no |
| 12:00.39 | benjk | 1 USD per page |
| 12:00.45 | benjk | make em bleed |
| 12:00.54 | ronn | hi guys... any one knows if it's possible to match an incoming SIP call by username and IP address? i,e using both parameters? |
| 12:00.58 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: foreign aid, healthcare, defense, and Harper's pocket |
| 12:01.02 | benjk | tax all the redundant technology out of the market |
| 12:01.14 | Ciber311 | you don't spend anything on defense |
| 12:01.20 | benjk | dialup internet should be taxed like there is no tomorrow |
| 12:01.23 | benjk | especially in the US |
| 12:01.35 | Ciber311 | you have a couple of broken down poorly maintained choppers that tend to fall out of the sky :P |
| 12:01.46 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: nah...harper's changing that |
| 12:02.02 | backblue | dialup internet still exists in US? |
| 12:02.03 | Ciber311 | lol that's good i guess |
| 12:02.07 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: he's planning to buy new choppers, new ships, and some other stuff |
| 12:02.11 | benjk | yeah, its all over the place |
| 12:02.20 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: I think it might have even already been approved |
| 12:02.22 | Ciber311 | i'm just glad we won't be donating anymore money to the canadian wealthfare fund |
| 12:02.35 | benjk | the US is about to fall out of the top 20 countries for broadband internet deployment |
| 12:02.45 | Ciber311 | oh man |
| 12:02.48 | Ciber311 | another funny thing |
| 12:02.51 | dlynes_laptop | benjk: big deal |
| 12:02.54 | Ciber311 | you buy a ticket to ottawa |
| 12:03.04 | dlynes_laptop | benjk: that means less aol lusers on the internet |
| 12:03.06 | Ciber311 | and they charge you like 30 dollars in taxes |
| 12:03.13 | Ciber311 | to maintain the ottawa airport |
| 12:03.16 | Ciber311 | funny thing is |
| 12:03.20 | dlynes_laptop | benjk: Maybe the world literacy rate will go back up to normal levels then |
| 12:03.28 | Ciber311 | they have like 2 people letting people into the damn country |
| 12:03.29 | benjk | very good point |
| 12:03.40 | Ciber311 | 30 bucks per passenger and they can't afford more than 2 customs agents |
| 12:03.47 | Ciber311 | they have like 20 empty booths |
| 12:03.57 | benjk | tax the empty booths then |
| 12:04.05 | backblue | how much costs fuel on US? how much it's a galon or something? |
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| 12:04.13 | Ciber311 | 3 bucks |
| 12:04.13 | benjk | maybe they'll turn them into snack bars and kiosks then |
| 12:04.19 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: different from one coast to the next |
| 12:04.20 | backblue | 3 bucks? $#? |
| 12:04.22 | Ciber311 | maybe benjk |
| 12:04.22 | backblue | $3? |
| 12:04.25 | pif | hi, is kram around theses days? |
| 12:04.26 | Ciber311 | yes |
| 12:04.34 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: but yeah...around $3/US gallon |
| 12:04.40 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: not $3/ga |
| 12:04.42 | backblue | hum,... |
| 12:04.52 | backblue | 1 gallon it's... |
| 12:05.01 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: US gallon and imperial gallon are completely different |
| 12:05.04 | benjk | but anyway, dialup internet and analog phone lines should be taxed, I am definitely positive on that |
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| 12:05.22 | dlynes_laptop | benjk: you must work for an ILEC |
| 12:05.28 | Ciber311 | lol |
| 12:05.30 | backblue | dlynes_laptop: i need to translate US gallon to Litres. |
| 12:05.31 | backblue | :o |
| 12:05.36 | backblue | we use Litres here. |
| 12:05.44 | backblue | so i can compare our prices. |
| 12:05.45 | Ciber311 | you want to tax stupid 20 dollar + basic pots lines? |
| 12:05.48 | benjk | especially if it is for business, then analog lines should be taxed 15% of annual revenue |
| 12:05.51 | Ciber311 | they are already overpriced as it is |
| 12:05.55 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: it's $1.10-1.20Cdn/L here |
| 12:06.09 | benjk | yeah, tax redundant technology out of the market |
| 12:06.23 | backblue | Cdn it's how much us dollar? |
| 12:06.31 | benjk | and use the money to deploy broadband and VoIP |
| 12:06.40 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: www.onlineconversion.com |
| 12:06.45 | backblue | benjk: and can give me a better job too. |
| 12:06.54 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: $1Cdn = $1.10 USD |
| 12:06.57 | Ciber311 | benjk: i don't think the companies that spent billions on the infracstructure will be too happy about that |
| 12:07.06 | backblue | 1 US gallon = 3.7854118 liters |
| 12:07.07 | Ciber311 | they are going to milk those lines for every penny |
| 12:07.13 | benjk | they can spend the money on modern technology instead |
| 12:07.21 | dlynes_laptop | backblue: heh..j/k it's the other way around |
| 12:07.32 | Ciber311 | benjk: try telling shareholders that |
| 12:07.42 | Ciber311 | verizon is TRYING to deploy new tech |
| 12:07.49 | benjk | the tax will tell the shareholders |
| 12:07.51 | Ciber311 | and all the shareholders are having a fit |
| 12:07.59 | benjk | and modernisation projects are then more likely to get approval |
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| 12:08.26 | Ciber311 | and taxing the customer is not gonna help :P |
| 12:08.38 | benjk | sometimes you need a little coersion to get rid of stoneage technology |
| 12:08.43 | Ciber311 | be easier to just make congress pass a bill to outlaw pots lines in 5 years :P |
| 12:08.45 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: we've already got broadband wireless available in every major center in Canada |
| 12:09.06 | chentschel | hi all |
| 12:09.11 | Ciber311 | really? i didn't see it in ottawa :P |
| 12:09.16 | backblue | 1 gallon here, costs about 6.667178 U.S. dollars |
| 12:09.25 | benjk | it will go up further |
| 12:09.26 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: i said wireless..i didn't say 802.11 |
| 12:09.31 | backblue | how nice petrol industry put the fuel in my country |
| 12:09.33 | backblue | :( |
| 12:09.40 | Ciber311 | wireless as in 3g wireless? |
| 12:09.52 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: nah...different technology, i think |
| 12:09.54 | Ciber311 | cause i had my evdo phone and umm... those were pretty crappy speeds |
| 12:10.00 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: it gives you about 65kbps |
| 12:10.04 | Ciber311 | wtf |
| 12:10.07 | Ciber311 | 65k? |
| 12:10.09 | chentschel | i have a problem doing h323->SIP in ast. can someone drop me a line? |
| 12:10.10 | dlynes_laptop | yeah |
| 12:10.13 | Ciber311 | that's not broadband :P |
| 12:10.13 | backblue | Ciber311: go sleep. |
| 12:10.25 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: it's better than dialup |
| 12:10.30 | Ciber311 | wtf |
| 12:10.37 | Ciber311 | i can't believe you call that broadband |
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| 12:10.41 | benjk | the only thing I like about my 3G phone is that I can make and receive phone calls while my Mac Book is using the phone for internet |
| 12:10.42 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: shaw lite speed is considered broadband, and it's 35kbps |
| 12:10.51 | backblue | 65k broadband? |
| 12:11.01 | chentschel | calls get disconnected by h323 side, because of the codec (g729) negociation |
| 12:11.19 | Assid | err.. the govt actually classified 256kbps as minimum for broadband here |
| 12:11.20 | benjk | the first time I was pretty surprised when I was connected through the phone and it rang |
| 12:11.34 | Assid | so any company which wants to give broadband has to comply.. |
| 12:11.39 | benjk | I didn't think it would support voice and data at the same time |
| 12:11.49 | Assid | so now these guys give 256kbps shared connections of 1:4 |
| 12:11.53 | benjk | so I was quite astonished when it rang while I was connected |
| 12:12.02 | dlynes_laptop | Assid: heh |
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| 12:12.49 | backblue | well you pay 1.016809 U.S. dollars perl gallon in portugal! :D |
| 12:12.51 | benjk | chentschel, buy a g729 license then |
| 12:12.55 | Assid | so i basically reply back to them when i get slow speeds is "govt said 256kbps = broadband.. im not getting 256kbps im getting xxxkbps so i dont have broadband.. should i call the govt?" |
| 12:12.57 | backblue | import fuel and you get rich :P |
| 12:12.58 | chentschel | it seems its a problem with codec frame lenght in the h323 side and codec negociation in the sip side |
| 12:13.03 | Ciber311 | anyways dlynes_laptop, 65kbps is a joke |
| 12:13.07 | Ciber311 | those are gprs speeds |
| 12:13.11 | chentschel | benjk: :). |
| 12:13.14 | Assid | gprs is always slow |
| 12:13.15 | Ciber311 | we've had those in the US EVERYWHERE |
| 12:13.17 | Ciber311 | for years |
| 12:13.23 | Assid | crazy lag times |
| 12:13.31 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: can you use it in the us, without a cellphone? |
| 12:13.32 | Assid | i'd love to get a 3mbit line here |
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| 12:13.40 | Ciber311 | of course |
| 12:13.43 | dlynes_laptop | ah |
| 12:13.51 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: price? |
| 12:13.55 | Ciber311 | wireless cards have been sold here as long as its been around |
| 12:14.00 | dlynes_laptop | Ciber311: how much for unlimited/mo? |
| 12:14.01 | Ciber311 | like 80 for the card |
| 12:14.05 | Ciber311 | and 40 a month or so |
| 12:14.09 | Ciber311 | we now have evdo |
| 12:14.11 | dlynes_laptop | ah |
| 12:14.15 | Ciber311 | which is like 2.5 mbps |
| 12:14.15 | chentschel | some calls get connected ok, but some i think is for the frame lenght in the h323 side does not. |
| 12:14.19 | Ciber311 | EVERYWHERE also :P |
| 12:14.26 | Ciber311 | and same thing |
| 12:14.29 | Ciber311 | you can use a card |
| 12:14.31 | Ciber311 | or cell phone |
| 12:14.32 | benjk | we have had PHS since 1995, gave you 128Kbps |
| 12:14.47 | chentschel | i;m using oh323 channel |
| 12:14.52 | benjk | still around today but now being slowly eroded by 3G |
| 12:14.53 | Ciber311 | rogers has evdo in ottawa |
| 12:14.57 | Ciber311 | not great though |
| 12:15.12 | Ciber311 | think i got like 500kbps from it |
| 12:16.23 | Ciber311 | gah |
| 12:16.25 | Ciber311 | alright |
| 12:16.28 | Ciber311 | really going to bed now |
| 12:16.39 | benjk | so you keep telling us :) |
| 12:17.20 | benjk | ast_softhangup(ciber311-2a6f) |
| 12:17.23 | inspired | I recently upgraded to asterisk 1.2 and I now see that caller id is not set correctly in the clid field in the 'cdr' table. however NoOp(${CALLERID(number)}) shows me the correct caller id, and even Set(CALLERID(number)=21651012) sets it, but in the cdr table it is not set |
| 12:17.28 | inspired | I am looking up sip username in a table and returning the phone number belonging to it |
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| 12:18.31 | benjk | you mean after calling Dial() |
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| 12:19.22 | chentschel | does anyone has experienced h323->sip succesfully here? |
| 12:19.41 | chentschel | with oh323 and g729a codec? |
| 12:19.48 | benjk | I would doubt that very much |
| 12:20.23 | benjk | inspired: do you mean after calling Dial()? |
| 12:20.29 | chentschel | benjk, that was for me ? |
| 12:20.31 | inspired | no, I do it before Dial |
| 12:20.44 | inspired | first Agi(callerid.pl) then Dial |
| 12:21.00 | benjk | you set the caller id before Dial, then call Dial, then the CDR doesn't have the clid you had set? |
| 12:21.09 | inspired | yep |
| 12:21.22 | inspired | this didn't happen on 1.0.7 |
| 12:21.36 | benjk | I would look at app_dial.c and check out the part where it creates the CDR |
| 12:21.40 | inspired | both src and clid is set incorrectly |
| 12:21.58 | inspired | good idea |
| 12:22.08 | benjk | I htink it is done by ast_bridge_call() but not sure |
| 12:22.46 | benjk | but anyway, if you find the place where it creates the CDR you can probably see why its using the clid its using and change it so it will use your updated one |
| 12:23.31 | benjk | app_dial has a bunch of oversights like this |
| 12:23.43 | benjk | there is plenty of opportunity to fix stuff |
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| 12:24.38 | benjk | for example, I noticed that the DIALSTATUS was set to ANSWER after using Dial(...,A(x)...) when the called party was hanging up during the announcement but before the calls was actually bridged |
| 12:25.05 | benjk | so the dialstatus shouldn't have been ANSWER because the calling party never got connected due to the hangup happing before the brdige |
| 12:25.27 | inspired | heheh, yep. seen something similar |
| 12:25.54 | chentschel | . |
| 12:26.11 | benjk | this usually isn't a problem because the bridging is usually done right after the pickup |
| 12:26.21 | inspired | when I played a destination unreachable announcement on my side, dialstatus was set to ANSWER on my client's side |
| 12:26.35 | inspired | although it was NO ANSWER in my own cdr |
| 12:26.54 | benjk | but if there is something like sending an announcement or executing a macro before the bridge, then there is a delay during which the called party has plenty of time to hang up before the bridge |
| 12:26.58 | [TK]D-Fender | inspired: Have you tried the ResetCDR app? |
| 12:27.21 | inspired | [TK]D-Fender, for my last problem or the problem with setting callerid? |
| 12:27.24 | benjk | inspired, precisely the case I described, yes |
| 12:27.31 | [TK]D-Fender | inspired: For the CID one |
| 12:27.32 | benjk | I have a fix for that, btw |
| 12:27.46 | inspired | [TK]D-Fender, no, I'll try. |
| 12:27.59 | benjk | inspired, no need for ResetCRD |
| 12:28.28 | inspired | benjk, we just modified our app to not play announcements and instead send dialstatus messages. does your fix require patching both sides? |
| 12:28.32 | benjk | just add this to your app_dial.c before ast_bridge_call() is invoked ... |
| 12:29.28 | benjk | just a sec, need to fetch it |
| 12:30.00 | inspired | yep. resetcdr was no need |
| 12:30.31 | inspired | and I'm still stuck with the prob. looking it up in app_dial. |
| 12:30.53 | benjk | if /* PEER HUNG UP CALL */ (ast_check_hangup(peer)) { |
| 12:30.54 | benjk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.54 | benjk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.54 | benjk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.54 | benjk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.55 | benjk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.56 | benjk | } |
| 12:31.03 | benjk | you can set some other cause if you like |
| 12:31.09 | benjk | like CANCEL |
| 12:31.32 | benjk | and AST_CAUSE_BUSY |
| 12:32.18 | benjk | just not normal clearing (== answered) |
| 12:32.46 | benjk | you need to do this before ast_bridge_call is called |
| 12:33.34 | roguebug | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:34.06 | inspired | nice |
| 12:34.08 | inspired | saving it. |
| 12:34.13 | benjk | Inspired, I did the same thing, I always use the g flag to let the dialplan continue, then look at DIALSTATUS and HANGUPCAUSE to decide what to do and what to report back to the caller if needed |
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| 12:34.40 | benjk | I also use more feedback codes like BARRED and NUMBERCHANGED etc |
| 12:34.54 | benjk | the cause codes are all in asterisk/include/asterisk/causes.h |
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| 12:36.52 | SpaceBass | hey folks |
| 12:37.04 | SpaceBass | trying to get a telasip trunk working and having problems with outbound calls |
| 12:37.16 | SpaceBass | a tcpdump doesnt even show my box trying to contact their gateway |
| 12:39.45 | inspired | benjk, thanks |
| 12:40.12 | benjk | define what you mean by both sides? |
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| 12:40.55 | benjk | in general, if you have a bridged call, the calling channel inherits the hangupcause from the dialed out to channel |
| 12:41.27 | benjk | so if you don't bridge the call, then you want to avoid inheriting the cause, this is what my fix does |
| 12:41.40 | Alex | Ooh, we're back on the topic of asterisk again.. from taxes.. :P |
| 12:41.51 | benjk | only slightly |
| 12:42.05 | benjk | because Inspired has a CDR (=taxing) issue |
| 12:42.07 | benjk | :) |
| 12:42.30 | Alex | :p |
| 12:43.16 | benjk | Inspired, I think the actual CDR is created further down, in ast_bridge_call or below |
| 12:43.39 | benjk | you'll have to follow the trail and see why it is not using the CLID you set |
| 12:43.57 | inspired | stupid stupid stupid shit |
| 12:44.02 | benjk | yeah |
| 12:44.25 | benjk | it all comes down to most of those functions trying to do too much stuff |
| 12:44.28 | inspired | as a channel var the CLID is correct, but not in the CDR. argh |
| 12:44.35 | benjk | they should be smaller and more specialised |
| 12:45.23 | benjk | and assignng stuff to struct vars instead of using a proper API call for setting stuff does make things a lot more prone to errors |
| 12:45.39 | benjk | like fixing one thing and breaking another thing in the process |
| 12:48.27 | inspired | hrrrm, I wonder if Set(CDR(CLID)=crap) would work |
| 12:48.29 | phearless | hello |
| 12:48.33 | phearless | somebody is here ? |
| 12:48.50 | dlynes_laptop | no |
| 12:48.58 | phearless | on my cisco phone, in SIP<macaddress>.cnf , should I add in line1_name etc all the lines of the office, or just the line of the phone ? |
| 12:49.23 | phearless | the answer should be obvious for ppl who got a cisco phone |
| 12:49.49 | benjk | the answer should be obvious from: <macaddress> |
| 12:50.50 | inspired | benjk, argh |
| 12:50.52 | inspired | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:50.52 | inspired | Aug 9 14:43:16 ERROR[4464]: cdr.c:289 ast_cdr_setvar: Attempt to set a read-only variable!. |
| 12:50.56 | inspired | thought that would work |
| 12:51.01 | benjk | whose macaddress is it? just for this one phone? or for the entire office? eh? |
| 12:51.12 | phearless | the MAC of the phone |
| 12:51.39 | benjk | well, that means whatever goes into that file is for the phone only |
| 12:52.04 | benjk | inspired, you will have to find the code that sets the CDR |
| 12:52.47 | inspired | yep |
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| 12:53.09 | SpaceBass | trying to get a telasip trunk working and having problems with outbound calls |
| 12:53.11 | SpaceBass | a tcpdump doesnt even show my box trying to contact their gateway |
| 12:53.17 | benjk | does this happen only when using a SIP phone? or on other types of channels too? |
| 12:54.15 | benjk | it may well be that it overrides the CLID again somewhere in chan_sip |
| 12:54.16 | benjk | from the callerid= setting in sip.conf |
| 12:54.24 | inspired | from a sip phone |
| 12:54.35 | inspired | callerid = NULL in my sipfriends table |
| 12:54.38 | benjk | yeah, that's what I am speculating about |
| 12:54.59 | inspired | but it doesn't make any sense. the damn cdr is correct in the channel var |
| 12:55.04 | inspired | sorry, damn clid |
| 12:55.12 | benjk | yes but that is a snapshot |
| 12:55.24 | benjk | it might have changed at some place |
| 12:55.52 | benjk | especially as there is some tmp channel creation going on in app_dial for sip peers |
| 12:56.22 | benjk | tmp->blah = in->blah and all that stuff |
| 12:57.07 | phearless | <benjk> well, that means whatever goes into that file is for the phone only |
| 12:57.08 | phearless | i know |
| 12:57.12 | benjk | maybe some value got lost |
| 12:57.30 | phearless | but I do not know if the phone has to know the others phone lines, in its config file |
| 12:57.55 | roguebug | at least, if a value got lost, you don't have to pay value added tax on it (there are taxes again) |
| 12:58.04 | benjk | the phone;s config file only needs to have parameters for the phone itself |
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| 12:58.24 | phearless | ok benjk |
| 12:58.45 | phearless | but maybe the phone itself need to know how t ocommunicate |
| 12:58.47 | benjk | that should be obvious by the presence of the macadress in the file name |
| 12:58.48 | inspired | interesting. just set callerid= "21651012" in sipfriends table and now the callerid is correct |
| 12:59.00 | inspired | I wonder what happens if I remove the whole column from sipfriends |
| 12:59.07 | phearless | all the examples of cisco config files for phones include many line1_name line2_name line3_name etc |
| 12:59.08 | benjk | yes, but does that solve your problem really? |
| 12:59.32 | benjk | because if the CLID isn't always the same, then you're stuck again at some point |
| 12:59.34 | inspired | not at all, but it indicates that perhaps retrieving users from sipfriends is the issue |
| 12:59.49 | benjk | indeed, that's what I was getting at |
| 12:59.51 | inspired | as it will only accept to take the clid from the table, not if I specify it as a variable |
| 13:00.06 | benjk | the table should be a fallback |
| 13:01.05 | benjk | it shoud use the CLID you set and only use the table if you don't set anything explicitly |
| 13:01.05 | inspired | yeah. I'm not a coder, so fixing this would be lots of work for me. |
| 13:01.05 | inspired | I'll file a bug report |
| 13:01.05 | benjk | I don't think its that bad |
| 13:01.20 | benjk | what's the caller ID if yo don't have any callerid= setting for the sip client? |
| 13:01.58 | benjk | is it blank? |
| 13:02.56 | inspired | no, it is set to the SIP username |
| 13:03.00 | inspired | 111110010 |
| 13:03.24 | inspired | both clid and src fields are set to 111110010 if I don't have the callerid= setting |
| 13:03.55 | benjk | and that's only in the CDR or also indicated to the called party? |
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| 13:05.07 | zpertee | does anybody know of any good windows gsm players |
| 13:05.14 | inspired | benjk, it is also indicated |
| 13:05.50 | benjk | ok, that suggests there is some special treatment just for sip to ignore the CLID setting altogther |
| 13:07.10 | inspired | yeah. hmm |
| 13:07.21 | inspired | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:07.31 | inspired | hmm, probably has no effect to add this? |
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| 13:08.01 | benjk | restrictcid is about withholding CID, the opposite of what you want |
| 13:10.57 | benjk | inspired, you may want to dig into ast_call() |
| 13:11.50 | DarKnesS_WolF | i added voicemail with my voice but i get my message that i'm not here unaviable message and then the astersik woman saying please leave a message after the tone. i don't want that .. how to remove it ? |
| 13:13.46 | benjk | inspired, there is this sequence in app_dial ... |
| 13:13.47 | benjk | if (chan->callerid) tmp->chan->callerid = strdup(chan->callerid); else tmp->chan->callerid = NULL; |
| 13:14.04 | benjk | then a little later followed by res = ast_call(tmp->chan, numsubst, 0); |
| 13:15.02 | benjk | followed by some CDR saving |
| 13:15.20 | benjk | so my hunch is that this is where the CLID gets "lost" |
| 13:15.30 | benjk | in ast_call or below |
| 13:17.15 | [TK]D-Fender | DarKnesS_WolF: "show application voicemail" You aren't passing it the right parameters to get what you want.... |
| 13:18.19 | DarKnesS_WolF | [TK]D-Fender: it playes my message then it go with the asterisk one " please leave a message after the tone when done hangup or press the # key " |
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| 13:18.53 | inspired | benjk, will look at it. more upgrade problems appeared now |
| 13:18.59 | DarKnesS_WolF | hum |
| 13:19.01 | DarKnesS_WolF | got it |
| 13:19.03 | DarKnesS_WolF | thx [TK]D-Fender |
| 13:19.46 | benjk | inspired, from what version to what version? |
| 13:19.53 | inspired | 1.0.7 to 1.2.10 |
| 13:20.03 | inspired | problems related to dialplan logic this time |
| 13:20.05 | benjk | ok |
| 13:20.23 | benjk | well, that may be a result of changes in the dialplan syntax with 1.2 |
| 13:20.25 | *** join/#asterisk Mercestes (n=Merceste@216.54.143.2) |
| 13:20.49 | benjk | various variables turned into functions and some stuff was deprecated etc |
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| 13:23.03 | [TK]D-Fender | DarKnesS_WolF: "s b u" are your friends... |
| 13:23.46 | benjk | b wasn't all too friendly to me when I started out |
| 13:24.06 | benjk | I called my sip phone benjk and my mailbox too |
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| 13:24.41 | benjk | Voicemail(benjk) was then misinterpreted as busy message for voicemail box "enjk" |
| 13:25.23 | benjk | taught me not to use alpha names for clients |
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| 13:25.55 | Mercestes | Wouldn't bbenjk have worked? |
| 13:26.15 | Mercestes | or setvar(user="benjk") voicemail(b${user})? |
| 13:26.20 | [TK]D-Fender | benjk: And that's why you don't do that! :) Frankly they should rearrange the parms so its (mailbox[@context][,msgopts]) |
| 13:26.36 | benjk | well this was 3 years ago and I tried a lot of things but eventally had to use numeric client names |
| 13:26.39 | hmmhesays | anyone want a php script for displaying realtime extensions in a table? |
| 13:26.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Mercestes: doesn't work when he doesn't want user recorded messages.... |
| 13:27.00 | Mercestes | [TK]D-Fender: good point... |
| 13:27.05 | [TK]D-Fender | hmmhesays: Plain MySQL right? |
| 13:27.06 | charles___ | are you using MCC |
| 13:27.19 | charles___ | dlynes_laptop: are you the dude that uses MCC ? |
| 13:27.39 | hmmhesays | yeah, I got bored yesterday and wrote a php script to display my extensions table |
| 13:27.41 | benjk | but, yes [TK]D-Fender, syntax analysis and proper grammar is not exactly a strength of Asterisk |
| 13:27.43 | benjk | to put it mildly |
| 13:27.50 | hmmhesays | 43 lines, woohoo |
| 13:28.06 | [TK]D-Fender | benjk: Quite mild.... |
| 13:28.11 | benjk | I don't think that the term context free grammar has yet made it to Alabama |
| 13:28.26 | [TK]D-Fender | hmmhesays: w00t |
| 13:28.48 | [TK]D-Fender | I really need to lean MySQL / PostgreSQL and get on the bandwagon. |
| 13:29.54 | [TK]D-Fender | hmmhesays: Go google up an "economy picking" guide to help on your speed... I've seen books around, I'm sure there are free press released articles for you. |
| 13:29.56 | charles___ | anyone using MCC ? |
| 13:30.07 | [TK]D-Fender | charles___: </echo> |
| 13:30.24 | benjk | whats MCC? |
| 13:30.40 | charles___ | benjk: billing stuff |
| 13:30.43 | [TK]D-Fender | benjk: Don't feed the troll! ;) |
| 13:31.03 | benjk | I thought it was some Microsoft C compiler |
| 13:31.35 | coppice | Middlesex Cricket Club of course |
| 13:31.37 | benjk | but of course |
| 13:31.52 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice: Silly Brit-By-Way-Of-Asia ! |
| 13:33.16 | gregiii | hello all, i'm having problems getting callerid to work on tdm400 fxo |
| 13:33.25 | gregiii | get this error: |
| 13:33.28 | gregiii | Aug 7 19:45:41 ERROR[3515]: callerid.c:276 |
| 13:33.29 | gregiii | callerid_feed: fsk_serie made mylen < 0 (-9) |
| 13:33.49 | benjk | Mercested, to answer your question, the problem was that if you had a b in there it would always go to busy |
| 13:33.58 | benjk | even when you didnt' want it to |
| 13:34.15 | Mercestes | benjk: I picked up on that..:) |
| 13:34.19 | SpaceBass | trying to get a telasip trunk working and having problems with outbound calls |
| 13:34.21 | SpaceBass | a tcpdump doesnt even show my box trying to contact their gateway |
| 13:34.21 | benjk | may be different today, as I said, this was 3 years ago |
| 13:34.25 | SpaceBass | anyone have expirence with telasip? |
| 13:35.02 | gregiii | i just made some calls via telasip yesterday |
| 13:35.07 | inspired | charles___, I'm using mcc |
| 13:35.27 | charles___ | inspired: where is it ? |
| 13:35.34 | inspired | my company was the original sponsor |
| 13:35.51 | inspired | no idea. seems there are some server problems |
| 13:35.57 | inspired | used to be at www.paskambink.lt/mcc |
| 13:36.04 | inspired | which is my ex-programmer's site |
| 13:36.19 | *** join/#asterisk anthm (n=anthmct@CPE-69-76-83-52.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 13:36.19 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o anthm] by ChanServ |
| 13:36.22 | Mercestes | charles____: Where is it? that was your question? |
| 13:36.28 | benjk | lt? lithuania? |
| 13:36.37 | inspired | heh, yep |
| 13:36.46 | charles___ | inspired: your url is dead |
| 13:36.49 | Mercestes | lite. It's the new atkin's friendly Internet. |
| 13:37.07 | MrChimpy | hmm. under heavy load my AMI connection is being dropped |
| 13:37.25 | MrChimpy | I'm sure i saw something on bugs.digium about that but I can't find it |
| 13:37.34 | inspired | charles___, that's why I said it used to be there |
| 13:37.41 | inspired | and that there are server problems. |
| 13:37.51 | charles___ | inspired: I believe he is moving from gpl |
| 13:38.04 | Mercestes | charles___: Might I suggest a contract programmer then? :) |
| 13:38.11 | inspired | where did you get that idea? |
| 13:38.18 | inspired | and what problem do you have with mcc? |
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| 13:39.51 | TheCompWiz | does anyone in here have any experience with the GXP2000 & it's programmable buttons? |
| 13:42.47 | charles___ | Mercestes: I would code my own rate engine If I see that it is the case |
| 13:43.15 | Mercestes | charles___: Then get to work. |
| 13:43.32 | *** join/#asterisk Maan (n=mbsat@140.142.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 13:43.36 | Maan | hello |
| 13:43.43 | charles___ | Mercestes: don't try telling me what to do dude. |
| 13:44.00 | e-ddie | Mercestes: i can program the contrast between black and white |
| 13:44.14 | inspired | hey kids. shut up |
| 13:44.36 | Mercestes | Hello, Maan. |
| 13:44.37 | charles___ | inspired: I don't have problems with mcc |
| 13:44.43 | charles___ | inspired: I just want to download 1.5 :P |
| 13:44.48 | inspired | I spoke with the dev a week ago |
| 13:44.56 | Maan | anyone have a problem of voicemail stripping a letter from the mailbox name? |
| 13:44.57 | inspired | he said he would be releasing next versions under GPL |
| 13:45.07 | inspired | including the Ruby on Rails version which is coming |
| 13:45.19 | Mercestes | Maan: Yes, Benjk had the exact same problem. |
| 13:45.25 | charles___ | inspired: good, maybe he is migrating |
| 13:45.28 | Mercestes | Maan: W hat's your mailbox name? |
| 13:45.35 | Maan | sadaakah_adel |
| 13:45.55 | Maan | and it tells me it can't find adaakah_adel |
| 13:45.57 | Mercestes | Maan: There is your problem. s b u are "flags" for voicemail in *. |
| 13:45.58 | benjk | hehe |
| 13:46.04 | benjk | that was 3 years ago, though |
| 13:46.08 | Maan | Mercestes: oops |
| 13:46.15 | Mercestes | Maan: b being busy, u being unavailable, and s being........TK? What does S mean? |
| 13:46.37 | Maan | Mercestes: I think it's to avoid playing the greeting |
| 13:46.46 | Maan | Mercestes: it all makes sense now :( |
| 13:47.11 | Maan | Mercestes: just needed someone to tell me... |
| 13:47.38 | Mercestes | Your welcome. |
| 13:47.55 | Maan | Mercestes: any way to avoid this behavior, or should I just avoid those letters? |
| 13:48.13 | benjk | s means silent |
| 13:48.25 | benjk | avoid using alphanumeric client names |
| 13:48.28 | benjk | use numbers |
| 13:48.31 | Mercestes | Maan: I would just avoid those letters. You could try assigning it to a variable and it might work. I'm not 100% certain how * handles variables. |
| 13:48.44 | benjk | no that wont work |
| 13:48.51 | Maan | no i was going through variables and the problem happened |
| 13:48.52 | benjk | variables are just textual replacements |
| 13:49.07 | Mercestes | There goes that idea. |
| 13:49.13 | benjk | what pbx.c actually sees there is the replacement text |
| 13:49.25 | benjk | its liek a C preprocessor |
| 13:49.27 | charles___ | inspired: I'm in process of changing stuff, going to switch companies and loose my free colo |
| 13:49.39 | charles___ | inspired: so thinking about renting a server and loading mcc on it |
| 13:50.04 | benjk | Maan, if you are desperate, you can change the syntax |
| 13:50.24 | benjk | make it Voicemail(x|name) |
| 13:50.36 | benjk | where x is b, u or s |
| 13:50.43 | benjk | and name is whatever your client name is |
| 13:50.55 | Maan | nah it's fine...i just changed the name |
| 13:50.59 | Maan | thanks a lot |
| 13:51.02 | benjk | then you won't run into the problem and that is actually how it should have been done in the first place |
| 13:51.37 | inspired | charles___, yeah, if you get a virtual server it should work |
| 13:51.44 | benjk | or like [TK]D-Fender suggested, mailbox@context, options |
| 13:52.04 | hmmhesays | hmm I wonder if I can whip up a prepaid calling card app in 4 hours |
| 13:52.29 | benjk | get going then, you only have 3 hours 59 mins left now |
| 13:54.51 | Mercestes | benjk: Don't try telling him what to do! Charles will get mad. |
| 13:55.09 | *** join/#asterisk MattH (n=matt@cloud2.chilitech.net) |
| 13:55.23 | benjk | Mercestes, I actually responded to hmmhesays |
| 13:55.29 | MrChimpy | have digium dropped the TE411P and replaced it? |
| 13:55.37 | Mercestes | benjk: i know..;) |
| 13:55.41 | hmmhesays | heh |
| 13:55.52 | benjk | so why will Charles get mad then? |
| 13:56.45 | benjk | I know, charles needs mp3 for sox, so he has to get mad |
| 13:57.15 | Mercestes | benjk: *points* Precisely. |
| 13:57.41 | MattH | How do I specify where the operator is? that is where a call goes when I hit 0? |
| 13:59.43 | RoyK | ~docs |
| 13:59.45 | jbot | from memory, docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html |
| 13:59.45 | RoyK | ~book |
| 13:59.47 | jbot | methinks book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 |
| 13:59.47 | RoyK | ~rtfm |
| 13:59.50 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, rtfm is Read The F*cking Manual (TM) Interwebs-speak for 'Repeat the first message'. It is used when the message did not transfer over the Interwebs properly. If someone tells you to RTFM, be patient with them, and copy-and-paste your original message several times. (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/RTFM) |
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| 14:00.18 | jhamlyn | :-) |
| 14:00.24 | silentfury | morning, bit of an off-topic question, but phone junkies would probably know this.. |
| 14:00.31 | charles___ | :P |
| 14:00.52 | silentfury | i'm looking to block outgoing name/number on our nortel bcm, running software 3.6 |
| 14:00.54 | jhamlyn | How do I reuse the G.729 codec from digium when I rebuild the machine from scratch |
| 14:00.57 | charles___ | inspired: do you real with end customers or entree guys don't you ? |
| 14:01.01 | Mercestes | MattH: *shakes the magic 8 ball* Context o. that's o for OHHHHH yes, the operator. not 0 as in zero. |
| 14:01.03 | *** join/#asterisk grabeez (n=gaving@grabes2.enter.net) |
| 14:01.10 | RoyK | jhamlyn: reregister the codec |
| 14:01.26 | RoyK | or use the same NIC |
| 14:01.26 | inspired | charles___, could you rephrase that? |
| 14:01.29 | RoyK | it binds to the mac |
| 14:01.31 | jhamlyn | I have logged into the digium site |
| 14:01.39 | charles___ | s/real/deal/g |
| 14:01.46 | jhamlyn | I dont have the original email |
| 14:01.54 | RoyK | charles___: I'm a customer of inspired..... |
| 14:02.16 | grabeez | Anyone have any experience with channel banks, and how they hunt? |
| 14:03.01 | inspired | jbot, thank you. you made it all clearer |
| 14:03.01 | jbot | inspired: de nada |
| 14:03.13 | charles___ | RoyK: I'm a shaolin monk, from the caves of zabahr, bringing linux to the needed since 1997. |
| 14:03.13 | tzafrir | ~rtfm |
| 14:03.17 | jbot | i guess rtfm is Read The F*cking Manual (TM). It is a suggestion to do your homework before posting a question. Sometimes used as RTFM $SPECIFIC_MANUAL to refer to a specific source of information. See also http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/RTFM. |
| 14:03.34 | *** join/#asterisk aydiosmio (n=aydiosmi@65.213.70.43) |
| 14:03.55 | RoyK | charles___: how delightful to hear |
| 14:04.31 | grabeez | tzafrir, are you responding to me? |
| 14:04.57 | tzafrir | grabeez, no. Just fixing the factoid. |
| 14:05.12 | *** part/#asterisk MattH (n=matt@cloud2.chilitech.net) |
| 14:05.22 | charles___ | grabeez: their are fearless hunters, they are predator with no mercy, we shall baw for their habilities. |
| 14:05.29 | grabeez | had me worried, if this shit was in the manual I wouldn't ask :) |
| 14:05.36 | charles___ | s |
| 14:07.05 | charles___ | grabeez: never mess with a channel bank warrior while he is on his quest hunting poor souls |
| 14:07.24 | aydiosmio | call hunting? |
| 14:07.52 | Mercestes | charles___ reminds me of the Larry Finklestein of the * world. |
| 14:08.17 | charles___ | aydiosmio: don't say that, you can wake up the fury of the hunter channel bank |
| 14:08.24 | grabeez | well, basically the question is if I have 2 8 port FXO banks, can I have it automagically use the 2 with 1 trunk name (for gnudialer) instead of SIP/bank1 AND SIP/bank2 |
| 14:08.28 | aydiosmio | channel banks rule. |
| 14:09.13 | charles___ | grabeez: does your channel bank does SIP or T1 ? |
| 14:09.19 | *** join/#asterisk marv[work] (n=timr@64.89.118.139) |
| 14:09.20 | grabeez | SIP/POTS |
| 14:09.33 | grabeez | damnit |
| 14:09.47 | grabeez | Did I just repsond to a damn bot? |
| 14:09.50 | charles___ | grabeez: if you use T1 and TDM cards group the T's and use standard tdm/g1 |
| 14:10.04 | aydiosmio | gotta be the same SIP target or they become different trunks |
| 14:10.05 | charles___ | grabeez: if they are sip you have to get the FM |
| 14:10.11 | grabeez | this will be an external bank via SIP |
| 14:10.33 | benjk | channel banks hunt at night around channels and banks |
| 14:10.35 | grabeez | how can I have 2 different boxes use the same sip target? |
| 14:10.49 | charles___ | grabeez: but probably they won't support grouping different devices unless they are NASA channel banks |
| 14:10.49 | *** join/#asterisk dasenjo_ (n=dasenjo@63.245.86.247) |
| 14:11.12 | aydiosmio | if your channel bank has any kind of routing capabilities, you could route all traffic to one form * and then reroute some of the calls fromthe first bank |
| 14:11.29 | aydiosmio | form/from |
| 14:11.34 | charles___ | benjk: I have heard that they would kill anyone who see them hunting |
| 14:11.45 | charles___ | benjk: they live no witness |
| 14:11.50 | grabeez | so for example the audiocodes bank might have a setting to forward extra calls to another box |
| 14:11.55 | benjk | that's the point, they hunt at night so nobody can see them |
| 14:12.00 | Mercestes | I should have been an auto-mechanic. |
| 14:12.04 | aydiosmio | grabeez: exactly |
| 14:12.08 | charles___ | grabeez: is your problelm outgoing calls ? |
| 14:12.18 | charles___ | grabeez: limit the output to 8 calls on each channel bank |
| 14:12.25 | aydiosmio | but I don't see why they need to be one trunk |
| 14:12.36 | charles___ | grabeez: or try one and if it full bounce to the other |
| 14:12.45 | benjk | ever seen a channel bank hunt at night nearby a channel or a bank? |
| 14:12.47 | benjk | No? |
| 14:12.54 | grabeez | Well I am buying the boxes today, so I don't have a problem yet. I just wanted to make sure I can have 16 outbound calls over 1 SIP target on 8 port FXO gateways |
| 14:12.54 | benjk | see how well they hide! |
| 14:13.13 | grabeez | They need to be on one trunk because of Gnudialer |
| 14:13.22 | charles___ | benjk: I was going to be dead if I saw one . |
| 14:13.26 | aydiosmio | grabeez: look at the mediatrix boxes |
| 14:13.37 | aydiosmio | their configuration is a little more verbose, like Cisco IOS |
| 14:13.57 | charles___ | grabeez: you are going to have two targets |
| 14:13.57 | charles___ | grabeez: just bounce between them |
| 14:14.28 | grabeez | I can't do that with gnudialer |
| 14:14.46 | grabeez | It can only handle 1 trunk name, and no I can't use a dialplan with it |
| 14:14.49 | charles___ | grabeez: you probably can, just place a macro instead of using the channel directly |
| 14:14.50 | *** part/#asterisk kmilitzer (n=km@office-gw.westend.com) |
| 14:15.04 | charles___ | grabeez: callout/extension |
| 14:15.17 | grabeez | I hear that will cause deadlocks |
| 14:15.22 | charles___ | grabeez: callout will use first channel available on one of the two |
| 14:15.54 | charles___ | grabeez: so buy a t1 channel bank, don 't get cheap with that 8 piece of something |
| 14:16.05 | aydiosmio | l-orf |
| 14:16.11 | aydiosmio | Rhino ftw |
| 14:16.39 | grabeez | Not my choice, the company I am getting these for has a special deal in place only for POTS, nothing digital (yeah I know it sucks) |
| 14:17.02 | aydiosmio | ? |
| 14:17.06 | charles___ | grabeez: come on, a Adtran will cost 500 bucks |
| 14:17.10 | charles___ | grabeez: then get a tdm card |
| 14:17.31 | tzafrir | which costs about the same (the cheapest) |
| 14:17.55 | charles___ | grabeez: or buy a rhino or a quintum |
| 14:18.11 | charles___ | cheap stuff don't work |
| 14:18.12 | aydiosmio | Are there any TDMoE banks other than the SpiderMUX? |
| 14:18.37 | grabeez | Does a T1 chan bank convert POTS to T1? or T1 to sip(sorry for my ignorance) |
| 14:19.01 | charles___ | grabeez: FXO to T1 or FXS to T1 |
| 14:19.01 | aydiosmio | You use the T1 to connect to your PBX, not to the network |
| 14:19.10 | charles___ | grabeez: but you can find T1 to SIP or FXO to SIP |
| 14:19.42 | grabeez | so it would go pots to T1 then T1 to a T1 card in * |
| 14:19.51 | [TK]D-Fender | grabeez: Get a SIP gatewary like AudioCodes MP-124 or Mediatrix 1124 |
| 14:20.00 | [TK]D-Fender | Screw T1 for channel bank use.... |
| 14:20.23 | aydiosmio | yeah! who needs channel routing that uses no CPU load! |
| 14:20.42 | [TK]D-Fender | EC / load issues avoided, beter wiring possibilities, NOT using *'s DTMF stupid dial for transfers, etc... |
| 14:20.49 | grabeez | The cheapest 24 port FXO gateway I see is about $3k |
| 14:21.10 | [TK]D-Fender | grabeez: Why on earth would you have 24 FXO, and not a PRI instead? |
| 14:21.40 | aydiosmio | 10:16 < grabeez> Not my choice, the company I am getting these for has a special deal in place only for POTS, nothing digital (yeah I know it sucks) |
| 14:21.42 | grabeez | Like I said the company I am doing this for has a special deal for POTS lines, so its not really up to me |
| 14:22.03 | aydiosmio | and it's only 8 lines |
| 14:22.03 | benjk | fire the company |
| 14:22.26 | dioedu | hello, there is a way to know why auto-dial out fails ? |
| 14:22.38 | tzafrir | grabeez, you need 24 FXO ports? or 16? or 8? |
| 14:22.59 | aydiosmio | you can get a Rhino 8FXO and that digium T1 card for $2k |
| 14:23.01 | benjk | if you only need 8 ports why don't you use the IAX channel bank? |
| 14:23.06 | *** join/#asterisk kpettit (n=keith@adsl-70-241-67-181.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 14:23.09 | charles___ | [TK]D-Fender: they probably run a T1 to his place and give him 8 channels :P |
| 14:23.17 | *** join/#asterisk r_evolution (n=no@208.251.203.208) |
| 14:23.33 | benjk | nah, use that IAX thing, what's it called again |
| 14:23.38 | r_evolution | SUP HOOKERS |
| 14:23.40 | r_evolution | :) |
| 14:23.49 | benjk | no, that;s not what its called |
| 14:24.03 | r_evolution | nuts :( |
| 14:24.12 | grabeez | well I am trying to keep costs low at first and go 8 ports, and scale as needed |
| 14:24.30 | benjk | I don;t think the IAX channel banks are expensive |
| 14:24.41 | benjk | damn, I can't think of the name now |
| 14:25.10 | tzanger | the USB ones? |
| 14:25.12 | aydiosmio | I can't find what you're talking about. |
| 14:25.18 | *** part/#asterisk jeffjohnson (n=Jeffjohn@unaffiliated/jeffjohnson) |
| 14:25.27 | benjk | are they USB based? |
| 14:25.36 | tzanger | I forget who they are too right offhand |
| 14:25.37 | grabeez | IAX channel banks? |
| 14:25.39 | r_evolution | TK-drew are you alive |
| 14:25.41 | benjk | I don't know, never used one, but heard people who use them like em |
| 14:25.41 | tzanger | shortish name though |
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| 14:26.11 | aydiosmio | alright |
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| 14:26.32 | aydiosmio | charles___: Just get a Wildcard TDM2400P with the 8FXO option |
| 14:26.39 | aydiosmio | put it in yer * |
| 14:26.47 | aydiosmio | $840 |
| 14:26.47 | JT | there are usb iax channel banks |
| 14:26.50 | watchy | hey anyone heard of a phone call incoming, the asterisk side hearing no audio but the pstn call hearing the people on *? |
| 14:26.52 | JT | evil |
| 14:26.55 | JT | as in, usb is evil |
| 14:27.04 | watchy | it doesn't do it all the time but its sometimes |
| 14:27.04 | JT | especially for important stuff like telephony |
| 14:27.13 | charles___ | aydiosmio: hey man, I don't want anything. |
| 14:27.30 | aydiosmio | oops |
| 14:27.33 | aydiosmio | I mean grabeez |
| 14:27.50 | tzafrir | JT, we (Xorcom) make USB channel banks. But they're not exactly IAX. Though you can always put a simple Asterisk to drive them and get a "IAX channel bank" |
| 14:27.55 | aydiosmio | grabeez, read what I said and confirm so I can stop looking for this IAX thing |
| 14:28.21 | JT | right |
| 14:28.32 | benjk | Xorcom Astribank |
| 14:28.32 | tzanger | damn who makes that USB channel bank now |
| 14:28.32 | charles___ | JT I have hear about usb channel bank hunters who had failed killing their prey, they have left multilated souls around all world. |
| 14:28.33 | tzanger | xorcom |
| 14:28.33 | tzanger | that's it |
| 14:28.33 | benjk | that's what it's called |
| 14:28.39 | aydiosmio | Xizzicom Zuzublanc |
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| 14:29.11 | grabeez | aydiosmio: re: Wildcard TDM2400P? |
| 14:29.12 | charles___ | aydiosmio: usb channel bank ? sounds like hooking up a bunch of modems to a usb hub |
| 14:29.13 | aydiosmio | I keep forgetting you can put 24 channels in a PCI slot |
| 14:29.26 | aydiosmio | charles___: yeah sounds fricken aweful |
| 14:29.37 | aydiosmio | grabeez: http://www.thevoipconnection.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=16276 |
| 14:29.38 | benjk | http://www.xorcom.com/astribank/features.html |
| 14:29.39 | tzanger | no it's actually not too shabby |
| 14:29.45 | tzanger | I have not used it but it looks solid enough |
| 14:29.52 | tzanger | USB isn't a bad way to do it (no worse than PCI anyway |
| 14:30.02 | aydiosmio | tzanger: yes it is |
| 14:30.08 | tzafrir | charles___, well, there is a controller on-board the USB device. If you look at how it communicates with Zaptel, you'll find striking similarities to PRI |
| 14:30.11 | aydiosmio | USB uses CPU time to transfer data to and from the bus |
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| 14:30.18 | tzafrir | (because that's how Zaptel works) |
| 14:30.19 | JT | lol no worse than pci |
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| 14:30.24 | tzanger | aydiosmio: howso? |
| 14:30.29 | JT | slightly less bandwidth |
| 14:30.29 | hmmhesays | can you order results by field length in mysql? |
| 14:30.30 | aydiosmio | it's a HORRIBLE way to do any kind of VoIP/Analog routing |
| 14:30.36 | JT | slightly easier to get knocked out of a pc |
| 14:30.42 | benjk | http://www.xorcom.com/astribank/features-16.html |
| 14:30.48 | tzanger | aydiosmio: uh... anything uses CPU time. Setting up DMA transfers takes CPU time. Servicing interrupts takes CPU time. |
| 14:30.50 | JT | slightly larger pain in the arse to get working |
| 14:30.51 | aydiosmio | hmmhesays: LENGTH() AS size ... ORDER BY size |
| 14:30.55 | JT | screwing with usb issues too |
| 14:31.00 | tzanger | aydiosmio: you're not looking at it from a technical standpoint but rather from an emotional one |
| 14:31.20 | aydiosmio | tzanger: no, I am |
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| 14:31.39 | aydiosmio | USB uses a disproportionate amount of CPU time to move data |
| 14:31.44 | aydiosmio | firewire would be FAR better |
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| 14:31.48 | tzanger | aydiosmio: I have a 32-channel DAQ that runs off of USB. The timing constraints on that are FAR worse than anything general telephony has to offer |
| 14:31.49 | benjk | as I said, I haven't used those Astribanks myself but I heard raves from people who do |
| 14:31.50 | watchy | anyone ever notice ocassional one way audio with * connected to pstn? |
| 14:31.52 | aydiosmio | but saying it's imilar to PCI is just ignorant |
| 14:31.54 | tzanger | aydiosmio: only if your host controller is shit |
| 14:31.56 | tzafrir | aydiosmio, it's still way simpler than VoIP (with all the networking stack in the middle). Surprisingly both this and VoIP work |
| 14:32.02 | tzanger | aydiosmio: but guess what, the TJ320 is a shitty PCI interface |
| 14:32.02 | JT | and neither USB nor Firewire have positive locking connectors |
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| 14:32.06 | grabeez | benjk: Yours is FXS |
| 14:32.07 | charles___ | tzafrir: since I haven't heard about DMA on USB I will assume that USB suckz |
| 14:32.11 | JT | which makes them undesirable for HA apps |
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| 14:32.18 | benjk | no, its both FXS and FXO |
| 14:32.19 | tzanger | aydiosmio: and there are MANY (SIS anyone?) craptastic PCI bridges as well |
| 14:32.27 | aydiosmio | yeah, I wonder why they never made lockign connectors for usb |
| 14:32.31 | aydiosmio | they did for SATA |
| 14:32.39 | tzanger | charles___: you can DMA with USB unless I am very muchmistaken |
| 14:32.40 | tzafrir | charles___, it works well with our rather low-end computers. |
| 14:32.42 | tzanger | it's up to the host controller |
| 14:32.56 | AndyCap | aydiosmio: where can you get those? |
| 14:32.59 | GerbilWrk | can someone tell me what will cause this? |
| 14:33.01 | GerbilWrk | [chan_modem.so]Aug 9 09:31:29 WARNING[910]: loader.c:325 __load_resource: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_modem.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 14:33.01 | GerbilWrk | Aug 9 09:31:29 WARNING[910]: loader.c:499 load_modules: Loading module chan_modem.so failed! |
| 14:33.15 | charles___ | tzafrir: no dma no good |
| 14:33.18 | GerbilWrk | I just stopped and attempted to restart Asterisk and this popped up |
| 14:33.19 | aydiosmio | AndyCap: don't recall, they're on some high end drives |
| 14:33.19 | tzafrir | GerbilWrk, do you know what chan_modem is and are using it? |
| 14:33.36 | charles___ | tzanger: sorry it was for tzafrir, but don't think it does dma, it needs drivers to control de bus |
| 14:33.37 | GerbilWrk | no, and dunno |
| 14:33.40 | benjk | also, it depends on how well the USB drivers are engineered |
| 14:33.41 | tzafrir | GerbilWrk, if not: either remove that module or unload it |
| 14:33.51 | tzanger | charles___: depends on what you're talking about. DMA can actually take up MORE CPU time |
| 14:34.12 | charles___ | tzanger: dma takes no cpu time dude, the data is there already |
| 14:34.15 | tzanger | charles___: you're confused. Everything needs drivers, even busmastering PCI cards |
| 14:34.16 | AndyCap | and with firewire it takes no cpu time at all. :-P |
| 14:34.38 | DarKnesS_WolF | what do i need to get app_rxfax and app_txfax? |
| 14:34.54 | tzanger | charles___: you have no idea what you're talking about. You need to set up the DMA transfer and on many cheaper implementations the DMAC is not smart enough to restart correctly so you have to kick it every time... |
| 14:34.58 | tzanger | AndyCap: nonsense |
| 14:34.59 | grabeez | brb |
| 14:35.05 | roguebug | ? i just tried to add a column "enddate" to my pgsql table for cdr_pgsql (as found in a comment for mysql on http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cdr+mysql) , and the column obviously gets filled correctly. it's mentioned nowhere? |
| 14:35.20 | tzafrir | charles___, no, it does not do DMA. But still works. Try +972-4-9990285 |
| 14:35.30 | tzanger | AndyCap: IEEE1394 controllers are smarter than most USB1 and some USB2 controllers yes, but "no CPU time" is a blatant misunderstanding of the technologies involved |
| 14:35.39 | puppet | Is it possible to use Realtime in extensions.conf on some places but not on some others? |
| 14:35.46 | charles___ | tzafrir: I don't want to buy anything dude, the other guy started that |
| 14:35.49 | JT | possibly AndyCap was joking? |
| 14:35.55 | JT | hence the emoticon |
| 14:35.57 | dasenjo_ | Hi! I need a little advice, I need a variable that contains the dialed extension number in *-1.0. Can you help me? |
| 14:36.23 | tzanger | saying that USB is useless for telephony is as laughable as saying using standard PCs for telephony is laughable |
| 14:36.32 | aydiosmio | perhaps that device needs to be benchmarked on some hardware |
| 14:36.32 | tzanger | er PCs for telephony is useless |
| 14:36.42 | JT | well it is a fairly laughable concept for high end telco use ;) |
| 14:36.46 | aydiosmio | chances are a craptastick USB device is gona get put in some cheapy PC |
| 14:36.53 | tzanger | aydiosmio: benchmarks are useless for this. If your CPU is not doing anything else there is no issue with it |
| 14:36.57 | [TK]D-Fender | dasenjo_: ${EXTEN} |
| 14:36.59 | aydiosmio | who would use USB for their telephony? |
| 14:37.04 | AndyCap | tzanger: http://md.hudora.de/presentations/firewire/PacSec2004.pdf |
| 14:37.05 | tzafrir | aydiosmio, what benchmark do you need, exactly? |
| 14:37.08 | aydiosmio | tzafrir: but it WOULD BE |
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| 14:37.19 | aydiosmio | if you were encoding all the channels to VoIP |
| 14:37.20 | JT | aydiosmio: i think a usb handset is about as far as it should go |
| 14:37.22 | GerbilWrk | tzafrir, commenting it out seems to have gotten asterisk loaded, but it was always there and always came up fine. Kinda has me concerned it just now broke |
| 14:37.24 | aydiosmio | that would cause some bad contention |
| 14:37.28 | AndyCap | tzanger: writing to memory with no os interference. of course it would occupy the bus somewhere |
| 14:37.35 | tzanger | aydiosmio: and if your P3/400 is not doing anything else what is wrong with the CPU being used to program the USB controller? |
| 14:37.45 | charles___ | tzanger: kicking dma clock don't think so, unless cheap usb stuff. I don't deal with that stuff. DMA is DMA, the data is ready for access, no need to the cpu to ask for data, will be always faster |
| 14:37.59 | tzanger | AndyCap: yeah that's going to make me change my mind. A random powerpoint presentation for a sales crew. :-) |
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| 14:38.23 | tzanger | AndyCap: "writing to memory with no OS interference" **DOES NOT EXIST** the OS needs to set up the transfer, and to be notified of when the transfer is complete so it can manipulate the data |
| 14:38.45 | AndyCap | tzanger: ok, you want the demo code instead? :-) http://md.hudora.de/presentations/#firewire-pacsec |
| 14:38.47 | tzanger | charles___: nope. Explain why PIO is sometimes faster than UDMA for hard drive access |
| 14:38.50 | aydiosmio | tzanger: I'm not smearing |
| 14:38.52 | tzafrir | And it also depends on how much manipulation is done with the data |
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| 14:39.09 | aydiosmio | Every USB device I've ever used consumed more CPU than a similar PCI or Firewire device |
| 14:39.37 | tzanger | aydiosmio: yes, USB can (and generally does) consume more CPU than FireWire or PCI. I never denied that. |
| 14:39.46 | JT | and anyway, from a business perspective, why couldn't a channel bank be made with an interface more people were comfortable with using for something important |
| 14:39.47 | tzanger | aydiosmio: what I am contesting is your claim that USB is useless for telephony |
| 14:39.49 | aydiosmio | take for example a USB2.0 DVD-ROM, reading from that device uses 30% CPU load on a 600Mhz system |
| 14:39.53 | JT | where people != home users |
| 14:39.58 | tzanger | not even 5 years ago the PC was considered useless for telephony |
| 14:40.00 | charles___ | tzafrir: pio never faster |
| 14:40.03 | tzafrir | aydiosmio, but you're asking the wrong question. The question is: "is this good enough" rather than "is this the perfect one?" |
| 14:40.08 | charles___ | tzanger: pio never faster |
| 14:40.13 | watchy | anyone know whats new with the new polycom firmware 1.6.7? |
| 14:40.16 | tzanger | charles___: I have seen it with my own benchmarking and testing |
| 14:40.27 | charles___ | tzanger: dude, you gotta check again |
| 14:40.29 | tzanger | charles___: it can indeed be faster, just as software RAID can be faster than hardware RAID |
| 14:40.41 | JT | an rs-232 port is "good enough" for a few channels |
| 14:40.41 | aydiosmio | tzanger: no, I wouldn't trust USB with my business's telephony |
| 14:40.45 | tzanger | brb changing keyboards, my new laptop keyboardd came back |
| 14:40.48 | charles___ | tzafrir: dma will make the data ready, pio cpu will have to send io to hd |
| 14:40.51 | aydiosmio | the plug could fall out! |
| 14:40.51 | JT | at least you know the connector won't be yanked out |
| 14:40.54 | JT | and it's reliable |
| 14:40.58 | aydiosmio | if nothing else that's a huge problem! |
| 14:41.09 | charles___ | tzanger: okay not going to keep on that argument |
| 14:41.10 | tzanger | aydiosmio: and Nortel/Avaya/Siemens/etc all want you to believe that a PC can't possibly handle realtime needs of telephony |
| 14:41.14 | aydiosmio | you should like you take your company's product a little too seriously |
| 14:41.21 | aydiosmio | tzanger: I know it can |
| 14:41.26 | aydiosmio | I run asterisk all over the place |
| 14:41.34 | aydiosmio | dezens of VoIP channels per server |
| 14:41.34 | tzanger | aydiosmio: yes the connector is a weak point. However that's what cable ties are for |
| 14:41.45 | JT | and epoxy |
| 14:41.46 | charles___ | tzanger: change you IDE to PIO and use it as PIO, and be the odd one. |
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| 14:41.54 | tzanger | aydiosmio: I am not syaing it isn't possible, I'm saying that the attitude you're displaying has been displayed and well disproved time and time again |
| 14:41.59 | aydiosmio | tzanger: did your company write linux drivers for the device? |
| 14:42.05 | tzafrir | charles___, a Zaptel device is a different workload than reading from a USB disk. With the USB disk I guess that the rate of traffic is actually much higher. Our USB device is far from pushing the limits of USB2 |
| 14:42.12 | tzanger | charles___: you did not hear what I said. I said it *can* be faster, depending on circumstances |
| 14:42.16 | dasenjo_ | [TK]D-Fender, the question is that I need it into a macro, so ${EXTEN} contains s, the start extensiom of the macro and not the dialed number |
| 14:42.18 | tzanger | charles___: this is well documented |
| 14:42.20 | frenzy | are there any alternatives to dockntalk from phonelabs? |
| 14:42.20 | AndyCap | tzanger: so no. the os does not need to set up memory access for firewire in all cases. :-P which causes a number of interesting possibilities as pointed out on slide 22/23. |
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| 14:42.24 | tzanger | aydiosmio: nope, I have no affiliation with Xorcom |
| 14:42.26 | tzafrir | aydiosmio, yes, and they're part of zaptel (subdir xpp/) |
| 14:42.50 | aydiosmio | If I'm encoding VoIP, I need every available cycle for that purpose and that purpose only |
| 14:43.01 | JT | did you guys co-ordinate nicks? :P |
| 14:43.01 | charles___ | tzanger: unless broken devices or bad engineering it won't be faster. |
| 14:43.06 | aydiosmio | that's why one uses T1 interconnects and PCI cards |
| 14:43.13 | tzanger | AndyCap: the OS needs to know when something is writing to system memory if it has to do anything with said data, and it needs to know that hte memory is off-limit if it is to do nothing about it |
| 14:43.28 | charles___ | tzafrir: I understand that it may work, but USB is USB not designed for anything professional |
| 14:43.34 | aydiosmio | oh I can't tell betwee tzanger and tzafrir |
| 14:43.38 | aydiosmio | what is with that anyway? |
| 14:43.43 | JT | aydiosmio: tricky eh |
| 14:43.51 | tzanger | charles___: that is another attitude that ahs been displayed for general PCs or microcontrollers vs DSPs... and disproven |
| 14:43.52 | charles___ | tzanger: if you want to make something fast you won't plan it PIO, you plan it DMA. |
| 14:43.56 | AndyCap | tzanger: that's the whole problem with this. It doesn't and so you can corrupt/violate the os as you feel like. |
| 14:43.57 | tzanger | anyway changing out the keyboard |
| 14:44.02 | JT | tzafrir works for xorcom |
| 14:44.13 | tzafrir | aydiosmio, telling between us is simple. "tzanger" appears first. Thus a simple completion will always get his nick :-( |
| 14:44.25 | AndyCap | for instance setting the uid=0 in everything that looks like a process struct. |
| 14:45.25 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger: My beef against Astribank is that IIRC it only has *NIX drivers, and USB on *NIX is just a LITTLE tricky in some cases, and is of course more spefically tied to *. Now were its just a SIP device on ethernett then it'd sell :) |
| 14:45.44 | JT | or IAX |
| 14:45.48 | JT | pref both |
| 14:46.08 | tzafrir | [TK]D-Fender, Right. Currently there are only Zaptel drivers. And a windows SDK |
| 14:46.10 | JT | scsi would be an interesting interconnect too :D |
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| 14:46.34 | charles___ | I can't understand. |
| 14:47.09 | charles___ | If you plan something to get big you would plan something on standards and using stuff that can scalate. |
| 14:47.15 | benjk | you mean an IAX device on an Ethernet |
| 14:47.18 | AndyCap | JT: that died with scsi terminal servers didn't it? :) |
| 14:47.22 | tzanger | WOOHOO |
| 14:47.24 | tzanger | working 'd' key again! |
| 14:47.29 | JT | AndyCap: or scsi scanners? :) |
| 14:47.38 | benjk | why would anybody make yet another sip device on an ethernet |
| 14:47.40 | charles___ | how do you scalate USB, get a USB hub ? get another USB controller ? hmmm doesn't looks like a good option |
| 14:47.52 | charles___ | 4 T's over usb ? |
| 14:47.57 | watchy | hey tk you use 1.6.7 firmware yet? |
| 14:48.02 | benjk | I don't think Astribank is meant as an enterprise solution |
| 14:48.02 | AndyCap | JT: heh, at least terminal servers are somewhat related to channel banks. http://outflux.net/unix/software/sts/ |
| 14:48.05 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: I dunno, I think a USB T1/FXS/FXO channel bank+laptop would make for an amazing demo unit |
| 14:48.07 | charles___ | even the USB connector won't be switable to rack mount |
| 14:48.12 | benjk | its for small and medium businesses |
| 14:48.14 | tzanger | better/smaller than a lot of the mini-pc style cases |
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| 14:48.24 | kpettit | watchy, what's different with the 1.6.7 firmware? Is there a changelog or anything like that for it? |
| 14:48.32 | JT | even small businessers are very reliant on telephony |
| 14:48.34 | watchy | i dunno i want one |
| 14:48.37 | JT | businesses, even |
| 14:48.47 | tzanger | charles___: USB is not used for professional equipment? What about the 32-channel DAQ I spoke of? There are scores of equipment for scientific and industrial use that use USB |
| 14:48.49 | kpettit | 1.6.6 is what I'm using now, and it's been the best version yet |
| 14:48.53 | charles___ | small business have money to pay 1k |
| 14:48.56 | aydiosmio | Laptop chipsets are well know for their lackluster I/O |
| 14:48.58 | ManxPower | Yes, there is a changelog. |
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| 14:49.04 | benjk | that's not waht I was getting at though, I meant how much it scales up |
| 14:49.10 | benjk | like using USB hubs etc |
| 14:49.10 | tzafrir | charles___, you can fit 4 (or specifically: the 32 unit) in a standard rack |
| 14:49.13 | tzanger | hell there uare USB and FireWire optoisolator modules even to protect against what industry throws at a system :-) |
| 14:49.13 | JT | a mini-PCI car in a laptop would make an even better demo unit |
| 14:49.14 | ManxPower | Would you like me to put it online? |
| 14:49.15 | charles___ | who would have 8 lines and won't have money to pay 1k for a scalable deviec ? |
| 14:49.23 | benjk | I think you use one or two of those not droves |
| 14:49.25 | charles___ | 8 lines at least 4 or 5 employees |
| 14:49.28 | E-bola | usb is used in a ton of pro solutions |
| 14:49.32 | E-bola | saying otherwise is nonesence |
| 14:49.34 | tzanger | I would love to find a mini-PCI ADSL or ADSL2 modem with Linux drivers |
| 14:49.34 | JT | eg junghann's mini-pci quadBRI way |
| 14:49.51 | tzanger | higher CPU use is a given, but that's not necessarily a bad thing |
| 14:50.05 | Blackthorn | Hi, has anyone used a packteer unit with voip (http://www.packeteer.com)? I recently aquired a unit when another local isp closed. |
| 14:50.06 | charles___ | tzanger: NO REAL TIME INDUSTRIAL STUFF OVER USB |
| 14:50.16 | charles___ | tzanger: you can program a CNC over USB |
| 14:50.18 | tzanger | software echo cancellation and tone generation and tone detection and transcoding is higher CPU use compared to onboard DSPs... but that's what Zapata's all about! |
| 14:50.24 | benjk | yeah, but you wouldn't deploy tens or hundreds of USB channel banks in an enterprise |
| 14:50.26 | ManxPower | I'm sure there is lots of professional stuff that uses USB, but I'll bet that these devices has all the smarts on the box, rather than in software. |
| 14:50.27 | tzanger | charles___: do you work in industry? |
| 14:50.36 | benjk | all connecting to a single usb hub or server |
| 14:50.38 | kpettit | I'm trying to set the from address in voicemail.conf but it dosent' seem to be working correctly. Any ideas what's wrong with this: fromstring=From: PBX <pbx@foo.bar.com> |
| 14:50.54 | aydiosmio | USB can introduce unexpected delays |
| 14:50.59 | benjk | you'd use it in a scale of 1, 2 perhaps 3 or 4 devices and thats it |
| 14:51.10 | charles___ | tzanger: you won't have the CNC doing live communication over USB |
| 14:51.13 | JT | a lot of "pro" stuff on usb is designed for short term interconnect |
| 14:51.17 | JT | not 24/7 service |
| 14:51.28 | JT | where if it screws up, it's annoying, but not end of the world |
| 14:51.29 | charles___ | tzanger: it's a simple serial thing |
| 14:51.40 | aydiosmio | all the professional audio equipment I've used is firewire |
| 14:51.40 | tzanger | charles___: of course you can. You send timestamps with the commands and have a sychronized clock at the beginning of hte operation, just like you do with any kind of industrial communications! |
| 14:51.47 | tzafrir | aydiosmio, it doesn't. And we do use them, for e.g, our own office's PBX |
| 14:51.47 | DarKnesS_WolF | guys anyone got tx_app and rx_app working with 1.2.10 ? the make file patch failes :-s |
| 14:51.54 | DarKnesS_WolF | fails |
| 14:51.54 | charles___ | tzanger: like JT says, not 24/7 service |
| 14:51.54 | ManxPower | Um, why do you care about delays. send command to capture data, send command to stop capture data, send commmand to have the data sent to the program. |
| 14:51.58 | aydiosmio | 24 channel DAC/ADCs |
| 14:52.01 | tzanger | charles___: DeviceNet, ControlNet, Ethernet/IP, ProfiBus... these are *ALL* industrial communications protocols, and are ALL serial |
| 14:52.05 | tzafrir | DarKnesS_WolF, just patch it manually |
| 14:52.09 | charles___ | tzanger: not even the connectors are going to hold |
| 14:52.15 | aydiosmio | tzafrir: it does, it just won't be evident in telephony |
| 14:52.30 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: okay thx |
| 14:52.36 | tzanger | charles___: I work in industry (manufacturing, aggregate, mining, water treatment) -- please do not profess to me that you know about industrial communications unless you are able to back it up... |
| 14:52.38 | aydiosmio | until your bus fills or your CPU tops out |
| 14:52.48 | ManxPower | kpettit, Have you configrmed the message is actually being put into the mail queue on the asterisk server? |
| 14:52.58 | tzafrir | DarKnesS_WolF, do you know how to reap patches? lines that beging with "+" are lines you need to add |
| 14:53.12 | tzanger | charles___: as I've already said -- yes, USB connectors are not really meant to hold. They're not NEMA12 rated either. |
| 14:53.23 | charles___ | tzanger: I can back me up working with embed hardawre running on coldfire |
| 14:53.31 | tzanger | charles___: I do that too |
| 14:53.37 | charles___ | tzanger: I won't design anything 24/7 to be backed up by USB |
| 14:53.54 | tzanger | in fact, DeviceNet, ProfiBus-DP, Ethernet/IP and ModBus/TCP on MCF5282 is my current project |
| 14:54.03 | benjk | anyway, for a small to medium business it would seem the Astribank works quite well and is liked by its users |
| 14:54.12 | tzanger | benjk: that seems to be the target market |
| 14:54.19 | ManxPower | Oh! Astribank! Gads, I'd NEVER use that! |
| 14:54.22 | kpettit | ManxPower, yes |
| 14:54.29 | tzafrir | charles___, and you consider VoIP more relieble? It's even more sensitive to those kind of issues |
| 14:54.32 | tzanger | I wouldn't really trust TDM400P for business either, but hey that's PCI so in the eyes of some it's industrial grade and ready for anything |
| 14:54.37 | ManxPower | real time audio over USB? Sounds like crazy talk to me. |
| 14:54.44 | watchy | tk: you have any idea what would cause small drop outs in a call |
| 14:54.46 | tzanger | ManxPower: why? |
| 14:54.50 | charles___ | tzafrir: it gets sensitive because that cheap usb stuff that people put on the middle |
| 14:54.51 | kpettit | ManxPower, it shows as [mailto:asterisk@foo] |
| 14:54.57 | tzanger | ManxPower: how is that any different than realtime audio over ethernet... or the internet? |
| 14:54.58 | benjk | ManxPower, Oh god I would never use analog in the first place but hey, that's just me |
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| 14:55.21 | JT | well |
| 14:55.22 | charles___ | I've got so many meeting about ASTerisk, and everyone throw rocks at me saying ASTERISK WONT SCALATE |
| 14:55.24 | charles___ | I hate that |
| 14:55.31 | aydiosmio | tzanger: well, it wont' fall out of the PBX, that's for sure |
| 14:55.35 | charles___ | It's all because people put that cheap stuff and think it will work |
| 14:55.40 | tzanger | aydiosmio: indeed :-) |
| 14:55.45 | [TK]D-Fender | charles___: You mean "scale"? |
| 14:55.46 | JT | there's a little difference between the Internet, from a few km, to thousands and thousands of km, to 2 metres of cable |
| 14:55.48 | aydiosmio | asterisk does lots of fun things with TDMoE |
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| 14:56.05 | ManxPower | tzafrir, Uh, because USB was never designed for high speed stuff |
| 14:56.05 | charles___ | It's always a hard time to explain that Asterisk can scale with decent hardware |
| 14:56.15 | hmmhesays | so cmd mysql is giving me hell |
| 14:56.24 | GerbilWrk | has anyone used sip phone and sucessfully forced the callerid to something other then the sip phone number? |
| 14:56.30 | aydiosmio | haha |
| 14:56.34 | tzanger | ManxPower: ?? 12Mbps isn't fast enough for you? |
| 14:56.35 | charles___ | but people come with IDEAS about USB things and modem things and winmodem things and cheap ata adapters and ask me to SCALE |
| 14:56.43 | aydiosmio | GerbilWrk: it's whatever is in the FROM header, usually |
| 14:56.55 | aydiosmio | depends on your SIP gateway adn the upstream provider |
| 14:56.56 | [TK]D-Fender | charles___: incremental CPU load, config file requirements, etc do add up. Its always a question of how far you want to go. Chan_sip has been due a FINAL redisgn for a long time now... |
| 14:57.01 | benjk | charles, don't use analog if you have such requirements |
| 14:57.02 | JT | people don't want their 2m interface to be seen in even the same dimension as their Internet connection |
| 14:57.10 | tzanger | charles___: Asterisk loves host CPU. Zapata's entire conceptual design is to use host CPU |
| 14:57.19 | GerbilWrk | aydiosmio, no matter what I've set, i can't get them to put my numbers in for the callerid, and they say they can't |
| 14:57.20 | tzanger | Astribank is a zaptel device... I fail to see the problem |
| 14:57.24 | JT | ever tried pulling 12Mbit/s over USB1? ugh. |
| 14:57.26 | benjk | having to use analog alone shows that your customer is cheap |
| 14:57.31 | JT | has large overhead |
| 14:57.33 | benjk | so USB is good enough for them |
| 14:57.34 | tzanger | JT: no it doesn't work, but you can't put 100Mbps over ethernet either. |
| 14:57.37 | tzanger | that's just the wire speed |
| 14:57.41 | charles___ | tzanger: people will plug a Backup Drive on the same USB of your device and it will screw their calls |
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| 14:57.52 | tzanger | hell have you tried putting 133MB/sec over most PCI implementations? It just doesn't work |
| 14:58.01 | ManxPower | tzanger, I just don't trust USB for that sort of thing. |
| 14:58.02 | tzanger | charles___: that's a user error, not a design flaw |
| 14:58.07 | aydiosmio | GerbilWrk: well it can be a limitation of the SIP client. Use another client. If you're curious, use ethereal to look at your outgoing SIP packets |
| 14:58.08 | charles___ | that cheap stuff makes people get frustrated |
| 14:58.10 | tzanger | ManxPower: fair enough. :-) |
| 14:58.15 | benjk | why would somebody plug a drive into a machine that should be locked up in the machine room? |
| 14:58.15 | charles___ | tzafrir: it's a design flaw |
| 14:58.18 | watchy | i'm having intermediate sound drops with my calls, using polycom phones. anyone have any idea what it could be? |
| 14:58.21 | ManxPower | I also don't trust the internet either. |
| 14:58.21 | charles___ | tzanger: IT IS A DESIGN FLAW |
| 14:58.23 | tzanger | I personally have no problem trusting that, but I've bene known to stretch the lmings |
| 14:58.27 | tzanger | charles___: howso? |
| 14:58.29 | tzanger | er limits |
| 14:58.30 | JT | ethernet is an international standard |
| 14:58.31 | JT | usb is not |
| 14:58.36 | GerbilWrk | aydiosmio, i'm sending it from a Snom 360, to Asterisk, to Sip Phone |
| 14:58.37 | tzafrir | JT, it's desined for USB2. It would barely work with USB1 (if at all) |
| 14:58.42 | JT | and the reliability shows |
| 14:58.42 | tzanger | charles___: USB does have bandwidth enforcement, but it's up to the host controller to implement it |
| 14:58.47 | ManxPower | Any, has everyone heard about Mark selling his soul to the Devil? |
| 14:58.47 | benjk | if you run Asterisk on some desktop box that is beiung used for Excel and Word as well, that's as cheap and unprofessional as it gets |
| 14:58.55 | aydiosmio | GerbilWrk: asterisk can change the callerid info. |
| 14:59.12 | aydiosmio | if you run asterisk on windows, you ahve other problems:) |
| 14:59.13 | benjk | ManxPower, what's that? selling out to Nortel? |
| 14:59.14 | charles___ | tzanger: Because you are mixing home devices stuff with stuff that should be 24/7 |
| 14:59.24 | GerbilWrk | aydiosmio, which I've tried, i can change it fine with Teliax and Junction Networks, but just not with Sipphone |
| 14:59.28 | ManxPower | benjk, Worse, he got funding from VCs |
| 14:59.29 | charles___ | tzanger: I will see people connecting IPOD's next to your USB adapter |
| 14:59.37 | benjk | Vultures |
| 14:59.39 | riddlebox | benjk, I am running asterisk ontop of a mythtv server is that cheap as well? |
| 14:59.39 | tzanger | charles___: don't use your USB to backup the disk |
| 14:59.41 | aydiosmio | USB is like the Jews and Astrisk is like Hitler. |
| 14:59.50 | watchy | haha |
| 14:59.51 | aydiosmio | Godwinned. |
| 14:59.53 | tzanger | same as you don't use your ADSL connection for VOIP for downloading and seeding torrents |
| 14:59.53 | benjk | ManxPower I am 100% convinced that eventually Digium will sell out |
| 14:59.56 | tzanger | it's a user error |
| 14:59.59 | tzafrir | charles___, why would you connect an ipod to a working PBX? |
| 15:00.14 | GerbilWrk | for onhold music? :) |
| 15:00.20 | daysmen3 | newbie question here - whats the best way to get user to input his/her "follow me" numbers - via a web interface or via the phone - |
| 15:00.25 | benjk | so keep those sources backed up for a forking exercise when that happens |
| 15:00.27 | ManxPower | benjk, fortunatly, there are other sources for hardware and the code is GPL. |
| 15:00.31 | charles___ | tzafrir: USERS DO! |
| 15:00.43 | aydiosmio | you'd use the linein, not the USB port to connect an ipod for on-hold music:) |
| 15:00.44 | charles___ | tzafrir: cheap stuff, people think IT IS A PC, LET ME COPY MY MUSIC |
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| 15:00.51 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: Hence all my preferences, an apparently yours as well :) |
| 15:00.52 | tzanger | It's the same as saying that if I buy a TE406 and hook it up to a P90 the TE406 is shit because it can't handle all the calls |
| 15:00.59 | tzafrir | daysmen3, Read ? |
| 15:01.25 | tzanger | charles___: why is your Asterisk PC in a location that people think it's running Windows and holding their music?? jesus christ man, if yu're going to have a technical argument, keep it technical! |
| 15:01.25 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender, I've not tried Sangoma yet. |
| 15:01.27 | AndyCap | daysmen3: what will they have available to them when they set it up? :P |
| 15:01.29 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger: Show me a P90 with a PCI bus that will support it :) |
| 15:01.36 | aydiosmio | your asterisk machine should be headless! |
| 15:01.37 | benjk | charles if you are deploying asterisk onto a desktop machine that is accessible by users to plug stuff in then you have already disqualified yourself and no matter what you say is going to get any credibility |
| 15:01.39 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: I have one.. PCI2.2, or at least it claims :-) |
| 15:01.43 | tzanger | er... I had one |
| 15:01.49 | tzanger | when I moved I got rid of a lot of old tech |
| 15:01.51 | charles___ | tzanger: You are talking about USB HOME OFFICE STUFF |
| 15:01.54 | tzanger | I had a TDM400 in there anyway |
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| 15:02.08 | charles___ | tzanger: First someone that have a rack won't put a USB phone adapter on their rack |
| 15:02.11 | tzanger | charles___: yes, and if your Asteirsk PC is not clearly marked with something along the lines of "LEAVE THIS PC THE FUCK ALONE" then you deserve your pain |
| 15:02.11 | aydiosmio | USB paper shredder |
| 15:02.20 | ManxPower | That reminds me, I should get all our TDM400Ps togather to sell on ebay. |
| 15:02.21 | charles___ | USB Fans :P |
| 15:02.26 | aydiosmio | if the PC is not headless, there's somethign wrong with you |
| 15:02.32 | aydiosmio | USB coffee warmer |
| 15:02.35 | AndyCap | aydiosmio: he's headless? |
| 15:02.38 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger: Think of the interrupt load Digium cards put out on that poor box :) Mercy!!!!! |
| 15:02.43 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: yep I know |
| 15:02.46 | tzanger | it ran well though for 2 channels |
| 15:02.55 | tzanger | but ILBC killed it dead |
| 15:02.58 | charles___ | tzanger: why not desiging FXO to Ethernet ? |
| 15:03.01 | aydiosmio | your * box doesn't need a monitor |
| 15:03.07 | tzanger | 235ms (I think) translation time for 1 frame |
| 15:03.12 | tzanger | remember P90 has no MMX |
| 15:03.19 | daysmen3 | andycap:> i prefer they used the phone not a web interface - im stuck on how to present the feature to my customers |
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| 15:03.24 | r_evolution | HOOKERS.. |
| 15:03.27 | tzanger | charles___: I agree that'd be better (IAX2 channel bank) but haven't seen it hyet |
| 15:03.28 | charles___ | tzanger: why not leave the PC alone and design something that will communicate with anything SIP over ethernet ? |
| 15:03.30 | tzanger | er yet |
| 15:03.31 | tzafrir | charles___, ethernet is much more complicated and has more points of failure |
| 15:03.32 | r_evolution | anyone ever used Ranch Network's gear? |
| 15:03.41 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger: Domo Arigato!! |
| 15:03.42 | tzanger | charles___: go buy your SPA3k and be happy then |
| 15:03.52 | hmmhesays | bah, cmd mysql is telling me I have an invalid result ID |
| 15:03.52 | tzafrir | charles___, in fact, using your logic, VoIP is broken by design |
| 15:03.56 | hmmhesays | yet, it is the one it gives me |
| 15:04.03 | charles___ | tzafrir: no don't come with that |
| 15:04.11 | benjk | Its ridiculous to see those people who whine about how unprofessional USB is and then they do analog |
| 15:04.20 | charles___ | tzafrir: my point is USB channel bank won't ever be on my list of hardware |
| 15:04.26 | charles___ | tzafrir: and I won't recommend to anyone |
| 15:04.31 | aydiosmio | benjk: analog is not unprofessional |
| 15:04.34 | benjk | analog is as bad and unprofessional in a business setup as it gets |
| 15:04.35 | r_evolution | now |
| 15:04.36 | r_evolution | not not |
| 15:04.54 | roguebug | USA++ = USB ? |
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| 15:05.00 | tzafrir | benjk, sadly, it's all too common |
| 15:05.10 | benjk | unfortunately |
| 15:05.14 | tzanger | USB works just fine for most applications. It's not as robust as other solutions, but for price-sensitive applicaitons it works well. SOHO is a VERY price-sensitive application. I don't see a USB channel bank any worse than a TDM400, and in fact I see it better than a SPA3k because at least I have control over it through the drivers |
| 15:05.24 | coppice | its only when the signal goes analogue that you hear all the problems. keep the signal digital, and nobody ever hears a flaw :-) |
| 15:05.33 | aydiosmio | tzanger is RIGHT! |
| 15:05.37 | benjk | but if you complain that USB isn't really designed for real pro telephony, you shouldn't be doing analog either |
| 15:05.40 | aydiosmio | but I'm not gonna buy his company's crap! |
| 15:05.52 | JT | that dang ethernet |
| 15:05.55 | tzanger | My usual recommendation is a TE110+channel bank but that's too costly for most. so I sell a SPA3k and tell them that it will have periods of dropout and not be perfect and they're fine with that because the price is right and they can handle a little downtime |
| 15:05.56 | JT | real expensive |
| 15:05.56 | daysmen3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.59 | aydiosmio | benjk: fax, pots failovers... very important |
| 15:06.02 | coppice | actually telephony is *exactly* what USB was designed for |
| 15:06.03 | JT | those cards are so rare |
| 15:06.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Being a channel bank means you have to use *'s features.conf and dial DTMF stuff for any functionality whic is just... ICK. Thats why I'll take a SIP gateway any day. Gives you better functionality in a way that have redundant backup seperate of * |
| 15:06.25 | aydiosmio | coppice: USB was designed for keyboards and mice |
| 15:06.25 | tzanger | when the downtime becomes excessive or they want more then they feel more comfortable buying the better grade stuff ebcause they have experience with the system, I have a trust relationship wtiht he customer and things go more smoothly |
| 15:06.28 | benjk | coppice, tell us |
| 15:06.34 | ManxPower | I'm listening to KCRW via the internet. There's some weird audio artifacts that sound like my cat hacking up a hairball in the background |
| 15:06.44 | charles___ | "periods of dropout" |
| 15:06.48 | tzanger | ManxPower: no that's just the announcer |
| 15:06.50 | coppice | aydiosmio: yeah, 12Mbps mice :-) |
| 15:06.50 | r_evolution | thanx manx. I needed that mental image |
| 15:06.59 | tzanger | coppice: think of the resolution for the gamers! |
| 15:07.00 | charles___ | Calls being droped aren't accepted by my customers |
| 15:07.03 | AlexCTI | Hi everyone, I have a question that maybe someone can help me, I set a queue and it works fine, but now I need to set a option to leave a Voice Mail, and I did using the time out it goes to VM option and if the caller do not want leave that option keep on the queue, but when i send back the caller to the queue, it lose his positions and get it in as a new caller. |
| 15:07.08 | benjk | USB 1.0 was no where near 12Mbps though |
| 15:07.16 | tzanger | charles___: I agree, but when I offer them a telco-grade solution they balk at the price |
| 15:07.26 | charles___ | You may be calling 911 and the call may be dropped, but don't worry, just unplug and plug the device. :P that sound good doesn't it ? |
| 15:07.28 | tzafrir | well, I'm talking about USB2 |
| 15:07.32 | tzanger | so I offer two or three things, present the pros and cons and they decide |
| 15:07.35 | jbalcomb | aydiosmio: doesn't seem a little odd consider how long it took for usb kybd/ms to be the norm? |
| 15:07.44 | aydiosmio | coppice: I dare you to get your USB1.0 to do 12Mbps |
| 15:07.46 | coppice | if you look at the original USB specs a number are from people like Nortel, for doing ISDN over USB - specifically BRI and PRI. The isochronous mode of USB is designed to be able to sync to an E1 |
| 15:07.47 | tzanger | and when it fucks up and they call annoyed I reiterate what I said and the(usually) calm down |
| 15:07.53 | aydiosmio | jbalcomb: in Macs? |
| 15:08.05 | benjk | I have had to unplug an analog line on a 50.000 USD NEC PBX |
| 15:08.11 | benjk | happens all the time with analog |
| 15:08.15 | tzanger | oh wow we got coppice into the argument... :-) |
| 15:08.27 | coppice | OK, full speed is 12M aggregate. its 6M each way. still takes an E1 OK, though |
| 15:08.28 | aydiosmio | it only took time to become the norm because PS/2 keyboards and mice were commodity items |
| 15:08.57 | coppice | it took time to become the norm because Win98 was several years late with USB support |
| 15:08.58 | charles___ | uhauahua |
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| 15:09.27 | tzanger | OSR2 |
| 15:09.32 | charles___ | aydiosmio: you got a point :P Why my calls are dropped when I log in to the pbx server ? (hmmm usb keyboard getting on the bus ? ) |
| 15:09.32 | tzanger | or OSRB? I can't remmeber |
| 15:09.48 | coppice | people like scanner makers were on their third generation products when Win98 was launched, so the USB products were already cheap by the time anyone could use them :-) |
| 15:09.52 | charles___ | when I move the mouse I have calls dropped ?? USB MOUSE ? |
| 15:09.58 | tzanger | charles___: why are you logging on locally? Why is ANYTHING connected to the pBX? good lord you like running risks :-) |
| 15:10.01 | JT | line speed is 12Mbit/s |
| 15:10.07 | JT | not capacity for user data |
| 15:10.12 | benjk | Why would your PBX server even have a keyboard in the first place? |
| 15:10.28 | MrChimpy | for pressing ctrl-alt-del! |
| 15:10.30 | charles___ | tzanger: you mean ethernet ? :P :P :P |
| 15:10.36 | MRH2 | hi is there a radical difference between zaptel trunk and 1.2 branch |
| 15:10.55 | benjk | a PBX shouldn't have a keyboard, it shouldn't have a printer port and it shouldn't have any video ports, joystick ports and all the rest of that stuff |
| 15:11.04 | JT | i have the full USB specification sitting in a pile of paper here somewhere |
| 15:11.06 | watchy | Mem: 506044k total, 497480k used, 8564k free, 153744k buffers |
| 15:11.07 | coppice | there isn't really a radical difference between * 0.9 and trunk |
| 15:11.07 | riddlebox | charles__: I may have missed alot of the conversation, but I use a usb mouse on my asterisk server and everything works fine |
| 15:11.13 | watchy | should i put more memory in my * box? |
| 15:11.18 | watchy | tk: wake up baby |
| 15:11.30 | JT | watchy: i dont think it's needed |
| 15:11.37 | watchy | i got 8meg free |
| 15:11.38 | JT | looks like you have sufficient ram |
| 15:11.43 | MRH2 | k thanx |
| 15:11.46 | JT | err that's linux for you |
| 15:11.51 | JT | it's MEANT to have not much free |
| 15:11.56 | watchy | ah |
| 15:11.57 | JT | it doesnt waste ram like windows |
| 15:12.01 | jbalcomb | watchy: how much is actually in use though? |
| 15:12.05 | watchy | hmm |
| 15:12.08 | watchy | how do i find out |
| 15:12.09 | coppice | watchy: 157M is buffers, so you have lots to play with |
| 15:12.15 | JT | if processes don't use up the ram, it caches and buffers stuff |
| 15:12.20 | watchy | im having issues with small audio dropouts |
| 15:12.21 | JT | to make things faster |
| 15:12.46 | coppice | its a pain the way they report that, though. it really confuses people |
| 15:12.48 | bXi | where should i look if i want to make it so that i can dial 1000 instead of name@ip ? |
| 15:13.07 | tzanger | charles___: some of my Asterisk installs have no VOIP connection whatsoever; they're there simply to make better use of the phones and integration. I am still kind of leery on VOIP as a general rule for business. At least for origination serivce. |
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| 15:13.10 | watchy | and im trying to find out what i need to do to find where im having these dropouts |
| 15:13.12 | jbalcomb | coppice: it is accurate though |
| 15:13.31 | benjk | you look at VoiP-Info.org and search for Dialplan and Extensions |
| 15:13.45 | watchy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.50 | watchy | im sure that load time is fine |
| 15:13.53 | coppice | accurate like a stopped clock is more often accurate than one loosing 5 minutes a day :-) |
| 15:14.07 | bXi | benjk: was that for me? |
| 15:14.07 | JT | and your general asterisk arrangement is..., watchy ? |
| 15:14.11 | benjk | yes |
| 15:14.14 | puppet | Is it possible to use Realtime in extensions.conf on some places but not on some others? |
| 15:14.15 | bXi | okay |
| 15:14.37 | watchy | jt: i got 26 polycoms and 8 pstn lines using tdm400p |
| 15:14.48 | watchy | and they are saying they get small intermediate dropouts |
| 15:14.52 | JT | hmm |
| 15:15.03 | JT | how does 8 pstn lines fit on a 400p? |
| 15:15.05 | charles___ | uahhuauhauha |
| 15:15.06 | ManxPower | watchy, make sure the Polycoms are configured to NOT use CDP. |
| 15:15.07 | tzafrir | two cards |
| 15:15.08 | watchy | p4 2.4ghz intel board 2 tdm400ps |
| 15:15.16 | JT | ah |
| 15:15.17 | sumasuma | Aug 9 16:07:46 WARNING[15195]: chan_sip.c:7255 handle_response: Forbidden - wrong password on authentication for REGISTER for |
| 15:15.20 | benjk | JT, by using the passthrough ports as well? |
| 15:15.21 | charles___ | tzanger: hey dude sorry let's get on other point, no need for that |
| 15:15.27 | watchy | max: where do i configure that at |
| 15:15.30 | sumasuma | it does not works with authentication |
| 15:15.32 | MRH2 | watchy phone to phone as well or just ehn over the pstn |
| 15:15.33 | coppice | JT: you need to push really hard on the connectors :-) |
| 15:15.33 | watchy | asterisk or the phone? |
| 15:15.36 | ManxPower | watchy, I assume you have confirmed that the cards are not sharing IRQs |
| 15:15.42 | sumasuma | when i leave the password as blank it works fine |
| 15:15.52 | watchy | mrh2: they say phone 2 phone is fine |
| 15:15.55 | tzanger | charles___: ? Good lord I hope you're not taking anything here personally. We're having a spirited discussion about technology and application of technology. Nothing more. |
| 15:16.02 | tzanger | brb |
| 15:16.02 | watchy | just phone to pstn is jumpy sometimes |
| 15:16.20 | watchy | manx: yea i did i forgot what i did to do that but ill check if you want |
| 15:16.22 | ManxPower | watchy, the last time someone posted about polycom dropouts, when he disabled CDP on the polycoms they worked fine. |
| 15:16.24 | JT | that puts the spotlight on the tdm somewhat |
| 15:16.45 | watchy | manx: where do y disable cdp in the polycom confs or *? |
| 15:17.10 | ManxPower | watchy, when you power cycle the phone , you'll see a message on the screen that says something like "setup" "start" and "somthingelse i don't remember" |
| 15:17.29 | ManxPower | go into the setup, it's the same place you set the vlan, boot server, dhcp .vs. static, etc |
| 15:17.44 | watchy | ok and itll have a cdp setting |
| 15:17.48 | watchy | lemme go see what its using |
| 15:18.00 | ManxPower | watchy, it's buried near the end of the menu options |
| 15:18.08 | charles___ | tzanger: not getting personally |
| 15:18.11 | ManxPower | watchy, CDP defaults to being enabled. |
| 15:18.15 | charles___ | tzanger: we are just wasting our time :P |
| 15:18.27 | charles___ | tzanger: and people are here looking at that argue and not getting anywhere |
| 15:18.31 | riddlebox | is anyone using a sipura 2100? |
| 15:18.31 | watchy | yea it seems enabled |
| 15:18.37 | watchy | what is cdp anyways |
| 15:18.38 | tzanger | charles___: ;-) |
| 15:18.44 | tzanger | something Discovery Protocol |
| 15:18.51 | tzanger | Cisco Discovery Protocol I think |
| 15:18.51 | JT | cisco |
| 15:18.59 | JT | ccna 101 :) |
| 15:18.59 | MRH2 | speaking of polycom anyone know then anticiapted release date for sip2.0 |
| 15:19.00 | watchy | hmm i dont need that i dont think |
| 15:19.10 | JT | very unlikely you need it |
| 15:19.17 | jbalcomb | ManxPower: Any reason CDP would cause trouble like that? It's the Cisco Discovery Protocol isn't it? I'm not sure what all it does. |
| 15:19.26 | JT | it's just a cisco wank to discover cisco shit for network management |
| 15:19.37 | MRH2 | lol |
| 15:19.39 | watchy | ah |
| 15:19.41 | jbalcomb | JT: kinda uPnP? |
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| 15:19.46 | watchy | now to figure out how to turn it off in sip.cfg |
| 15:19.47 | JT | yeah i guess |
| 15:19.53 | JT | but it's speshul |
| 15:19.54 | JT | :) |
| 15:20.00 | ManxPower | jbalcomb, I don't know for sure why it would cause an issue, but it has in the past. |
| 15:20.15 | JT | maybe it's more a polycom firmware issue than cdp? |
| 15:20.20 | charles___ | JT: * - 6 - [settings] |
| 15:20.25 | ManxPower | JT, CDP is also supposed to allow the device to discover it's VLAN and discover it's ethernet duplex mode, etc. |
| 15:20.28 | jbalcomb | JT: yeah, could be thier CDP implementation |
| 15:20.34 | watchy | anyone know where its at in sip.cfg to tell the phones to turn it off? |
| 15:20.36 | charles___ | jt remember that ? :P |
| 15:20.46 | JT | charles___: ? |
| 15:20.56 | ManxPower | watchy, I don't think you can do it via .cfg files. |
| 15:20.59 | jbalcomb | ManxPower: I though GVRP was for VLANning. Does CDP replace that function? |
| 15:21.03 | TheCompWiz | does anyone in here have any experience with the GXP2000 & it's programmable buttons? |
| 15:21.14 | ManxPower | jbalcomb, no idea. The concept of VLAN autoconfig scares me. |
| 15:21.22 | JT | i dunno if cdp is necessarily the noly way for something to discover its vlan |
| 15:21.25 | watchy | manx: you can literally change everything on a polycom with its .cfg but not this? |
| 15:21.27 | JT | s/noly/only/ |
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| 15:21.45 | jbalcomb | ManxPower: ah, I run VLANs for the joy of it but I'm all static. |
| 15:21.49 | bXi | benjk: not entirely sure what i'm looking for here |
| 15:22.11 | ManxPower | watchy, you can't change the VLAN via the config file either. |
| 15:22.13 | benjk | you need to learn how to create your own extensions in the dialplan, for example 1000 |
| 15:22.16 | TheCompWiz | I use vlans every day ;) |
| 15:22.21 | JT | vlans are fun when you have a large managed switch, but yeah, static is nice and simple |
| 15:22.25 | benjk | and then have that dial what ever SIP URI you want to dial |
| 15:22.28 | watchy | manx: yea good call |
| 15:22.35 | ManxPower | watchy, change it manually, if it fixes it, then you can work on doing it via the config files. |
| 15:22.42 | watchy | lemme call this guy and have him change cdp |
| 15:22.45 | watchy | and let him test it |
| 15:22.47 | TheCompWiz | if you have a switch with a good fabric rate... vlans can save you alot of headaches (better than trying to QoS everything) |
| 15:22.49 | bXi | benjk: and what file should this be happening in? |
| 15:22.51 | jbalcomb | VLAN docs tout workstation mobility as the best reason but i personally think traffic segregation is far more important and usefull. |
| 15:23.02 | benjk | exten => 1000,1,Dial(fred@flintstones.org,60,r) |
| 15:23.07 | ManxPower | JT, we use VLANs to seperate the contractor network, the phone network, the corporate network, and the printer network. |
| 15:23.09 | benjk | sorry |
| 15:23.22 | benjk | SIP/fred@flintstones.org that would be |
| 15:23.30 | JT | i use it at home to seperate my home network and my wireless wan network :) |
| 15:23.51 | benjk | that's in a nutshell, but you better read up on the details so you know what you're doing |
| 15:23.57 | jbalcomb | watchy: turn CDP off on one of the phones and then check the phones differential configuration file to what the options are to do it in the sip.cfg/phone.cfg |
| 15:24.17 | bXi | okay thanks for the example :) |
| 15:24.36 | jbalcomb | TheCompWiz: hrm.. we use our VLANs to do QoS |
| 15:24.37 | MRH2 | and vlans to dump any non authorised mac addresses into? |
| 15:24.56 | ManxPower | MRH2, that would be the contractor vlan |
| 15:25.03 | MRH2 | lol |
| 15:25.06 | riddlebox | I have a sipura 2100 and I setup two extensions on my asterisk server in sip.conf, exactly the same, but the sipura only connects to on fxs2? fxs1 I can never get to connect? |
| 15:25.09 | TheCompWiz | jbalcomb... it's not the vlans doing QoS... but you can prioritize the vlan over another vlan... |
| 15:25.09 | JT | mac address authing, what a pita :P |
| 15:25.14 | jbalcomb | MRH2: 4095? |
| 15:25.14 | watchy | yea im gonna have them turn it off |
| 15:25.15 | JT | you can forge them easy anyway |
| 15:25.49 | benjk | riddlebox, tried to configure the two fxs ports on two different IP ports? |
| 15:26.06 | benjk | like fxs1 on 5060 and fxs2 on 5061 |
| 15:26.13 | riddlebox | benjk, yeah I did |
| 15:26.16 | benjk | ok |
| 15:26.16 | jbalcomb | TheCompWiz: yes, but its still QoS, just by a different tag. |
| 15:26.20 | riddlebox | and still nothing |
| 15:26.38 | TheCompWiz | can anyone tell me if you can setup a phone with programmable buttons to have the *box keep track of what the buttons do? |
| 15:26.40 | jbalcomb | TheCompWiz: It has proven especially useful on the border switch |
| 15:26.57 | TheCompWiz | jbalcomb... that I believe. ;) |
| 15:27.36 | benjk | I had some serious trouble with totally unexplainable behaviour on a SPA3000 and jst before nearly going insane I factory reset the thing, uploaded new firmware and started from scratch -- that fixed it |
| 15:27.37 | jbalcomb | TheCompWiz: sshh... but that little tiny config change launched my fabulous career as the Asterisk Admin here. ;) |
| 15:27.41 | riddlebox | TheCompWiz, I think I have heard of some avaya phones being done like that, but I am unsure |
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| 15:27.57 | markdd200 | Hey guys - little help? |
| 15:27.58 | bXi | hope i wont have that issue with this SPA3000 |
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| 15:28.21 | tzafrir | markdd200, a little. What about? |
| 15:28.21 | riddlebox | benjk, I guess I can try that if there is new firmware out, I did get the thing from broadvoice |
| 15:28.21 | markdd200 | I've just installed a TDM2400p at a client's location, but I'm not getting dial tone from the FXS ports. |
| 15:28.40 | markdd200 | ztcfg -vv doesn't give any error messages |
| 15:28.42 | benjk | Well, the one I have was sitting unused for almost a year in a shelf |
| 15:28.55 | tzafrir | markdd200, do you see the relevant channels in the output of 'zap show channels'? |
| 15:28.56 | ManxPower | markdd200, are all the ports on the card FXS? |
| 15:28.56 | markdd200 | It's replacing a TDM400 with 4 fxs ports, so it should be a similar config |
| 15:29.01 | benjk | so there was newer firmware for it |
| 15:29.13 | watchy | ok they are gonna change the phones to disable cdp |
| 15:29.20 | bXi | hmmm calling 1000 wont work :/ |
| 15:29.21 | watchy | and see if that fixes any issues |
| 15:29.26 | markdd200 | yes - can see those channels fine |
| 15:29.38 | TheCompWiz | so... how does everyone in here do programmable buttons? ... leave it to the phone's OS? |
| 15:29.41 | benjk | but anyway, it seemed to me that trying out lots of different settings had borked it so I figured a total clean sheet approach would help |
| 15:29.55 | bXi | hmmm benjk can i message you for a sec? |
| 15:29.56 | vader-- | how can i make a change to zapata.conf and have it loaded into asterisk? |
| 15:30.00 | tzafrir | markdd200, so, what do you get in the CLI when a call comes in? set verbose 3 |
| 15:30.02 | vader-- | does reload apply the changes? |
| 15:30.05 | tzafrir | ~pastebin |
| 15:30.07 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ (BROKEN AND SUCKING NUTS), or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/, or http://paste.lisp.org/ for the lisp/scheme nuts |
| 15:30.10 | benjk | bXi, it really seems to me that you first need to learn about how to write a dialplan |
| 15:30.18 | tzafrir | vedar: some |
| 15:30.53 | riddlebox | benjk, I have done the factory reset on it before |
| 15:31.10 | benjk | yeah, well I did factory reset and firmware upload |
| 15:31.15 | JT | anyone know if ISDN s-bus cables are meant to be STP? |
| 15:31.20 | benjk | and then started with the simplest config |
| 15:32.13 | benjk | if you really can't get anywhere, you may want to configure it so it logs remotely to your Asterisk or another Linux box |
| 15:32.48 | benjk | because the feedback the Sipuras give is not really detailed enough to tell wahts really going on |
| 15:33.12 | benjk | but it can log to a remote syslog daemon |
| 15:33.25 | benjk | that'll probably give you some clues |
| 15:33.36 | benjk | also SIP debug on the console should give you some clues |
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| 15:36.27 | clyrrad | Does anyone know if a function that can test if an extension is part of a given queue? |
| 15:36.45 | riddlebox | benjk, I do get an error message across from asterisk saying a sip logon attempt didnt work |
| 15:37.33 | riddlebox | thanks for the advice I will try it today, boss is letting me go home early! |
| 15:37.51 | xheliox | Can Zaptel EC be disabled via a diaplan application/variable? |
| 15:38.20 | tzafrir | vader--, 'reload' will change most changes. Except for adding/removing channels and changes of signalling of channels |
| 15:38.43 | tzafrir | xheliox, there is a small applet to do so in bristuff |
| 15:38.55 | nicchap | anyone have info on how to use an MRCP server with asterisk? |
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| 15:40.13 | tzafrir | markdd200, in your pastebin: is it an analog card or an E1 card? |
| 15:40.20 | benjk | riddlebox, do you mean a registration attempt? |
| 15:41.04 | benjk | xheliox, if you use BRIstuff, you can |
| 15:42.02 | tzafrir | markdd200, maybe the order of loading modules has changed? |
| 15:42.27 | tzafrir | PRI channels will probably accept FXO signalling setup, so you'll get no errors. |
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| 15:42.41 | tzafrir | markdd200, take a look at cat /proc/zaptel/* |
| 15:42.54 | markdd200 | tzafrir hmm, possibly, but I don't think so - the cards are detected in the correct order, and incoming calls on the E1 work fine |
| 15:43.03 | clyrrad | ... Does anyone know if a function that can test if an extension is part of a given queue? |
| 15:43.27 | grabeez | cli> show queue <queuename> |
| 15:44.01 | tzafrir | markdd200, but something is wrong, right? |
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| 15:44.41 | nicchap | Any successful MRCP TTS users out there? |
| 15:45.02 | tzafrir | markdd200, the trace you showed is f a call that seems to be terminated by the remote (PRI) caller |
| 15:45.07 | nicchap | Trying to use a TTS server using MRCP. |
| 15:45.09 | clyrrad | grabeez - that is sort of what I am looking for but not exactly - I need something I can use in a GoToIf that will test if extension XXX is part of Queue... |
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| 15:45.34 | mutilator | omg yesssssss |
| 15:45.34 | mutilator | http://media.livedigital.com/pictures/8f/4d/8f4db7bcd3d5fa015522c9f58ae9fa03.jpg |
| 15:45.39 | clyrrad | in otherwords would need to extract just the members part.... |
| 15:45.52 | markdd200 | Yes, the trace I showed was a call that I terminated - it just times out otherwise. |
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| 15:46.38 | grabeez | clyrrad: As far as I know there isn't any function for that |
| 15:46.39 | tzafrir | markdd200, so please describe again what you consider wrong in that call |
| 15:47.06 | clyrrad | grabeez - ok thank you |
| 15:47.09 | phearless | lol mutilator :p |
| 15:47.11 | aydiosmio | I got the SDK for VAXVoip, working on a SIP client that can retirieve an online address book and show account balance information from our SIP Gateway |
| 15:47.24 | markdd200 | Well the call progressed normally in every way except that the analog phone connected to that port didn't ring. |
| 15:47.35 | markdd200 | If I pick up the handset, there's no dialtone. |
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| 15:47.46 | ComputerWarm | hello |
| 15:47.51 | ComputerWarm | anyone here using ooh323? |
| 15:47.54 | tzafrir | markdd200, can you call from one analog phone to another? |
| 15:48.16 | jbalcomb | [TK]D-Fender: looks like we are only going to have 65-70 call queues by the time i'm done this weekend. |
| 15:48.18 | markdd200 | But as far as I can tell within asterisk, it's all fine. Thinking a faulty module, but the same thing happens on ports 5,6,7,8, which are on a different module |
| 15:48.22 | markdd200 | No - there's no dialtone |
| 15:48.26 | nicchap | Tks Aydiosmio |
| 15:48.38 | markdd200 | even if I try and dial, Asterisk doesn't pick it up |
| 15:48.46 | ComputerWarm | anyone had a issue with ooh323 and h323 hanging up as soon as the call gets connected |
| 15:49.31 | tzafrir | markdd200, or a misplaced module? do you get an error from: ztcfg -c <(echo fxsls=1) ? |
| 15:49.40 | aydiosmio | It's stupid easy to write SIP clients for windows |
| 15:50.18 | tzafrir | BTW: wengophone has just been commited to Debian's pkg-voip. Hopefully it'll soon be in Sid |
| 15:50.27 | eKo1 | aydiosmio: using what lib? |
| 15:50.35 | aydiosmio | VAXVoip OCX |
| 15:50.58 | aydiosmio | they have a LIB and CAB as well for C++ or Web-based phones |
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| 15:51.17 | tzafrir | aydiosmio, web-based means activex, right? |
| 15:51.25 | aydiosmio | right. |
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| 15:51.37 | aydiosmio | there's no java implementation |
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| 15:54.06 | momelod | peeps, im currently using polycom sets w/ asterisk. I've got each phone setup with 3 lines, each line is using the same uid/pwd. When some1 is on a call and a second call comes in, they hear a beep (like call waiting).. can i change this so that the 2nd or 3rd lines ring out loud? |
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| 15:54.52 | aydiosmio | turn off call waiting? |
| 15:55.00 | momelod | i dont have call waiting |
| 15:55.10 | momelod | u mean from the pstn? |
| 15:55.11 | aydiosmio | that's a damn lie. |
| 15:55.15 | momelod | lol |
| 15:55.30 | momelod | so theres a callwaiting function in asterisk? |
| 15:55.35 | aydiosmio | yes there is |
| 15:55.42 | momelod | sweet, thank you |
| 15:55.51 | momelod | i thought this was a setting on the phone |
| 15:55.54 | momelod | *blush* |
| 15:55.55 | momelod | thanx |
| 15:55.58 | aydiosmio | sure |
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| 15:57.07 | momelod | hrmm.. the only callwaiting setting i see, is in the zapata.conf .. but wouldnt this be a sip setting? |
| 15:58.01 | momelod | grep callwaiting zapata.conf : callwaiting=no |
| 15:58.33 | aydiosmio | momelod: use the feature code on the phone |
| 15:58.39 | aydiosmio | I think it's *70 |
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| 15:59.15 | aydiosmio | *71 is disable |
| 15:59.35 | momelod | like i said, i dont subscribe to call waiting service on those lines |
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| 16:00.01 | aydiosmio | the zapata settign is for POTS callwaiting |
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| 16:01.01 | backblue | with realtime, when i do some reload, it should read the mysql database? |
| 16:01.11 | aydiosmio | momelod: you sure? cause it's enabled by default |
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| 16:01.59 | momelod | aydiosmio: yes, because we have those lines roll over to the next one |
| 16:02.26 | aydiosmio | ya got me |
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| 16:05.48 | roguebug | if the caller hangs up during a Dial command, does the dialplan end immediately or is it possible to somehow still place a couple commands (for example, to log the hangup in the cdr userfield) ? |
| 16:06.11 | aydiosmio | I know within a AGI script that's possible |
| 16:06.41 | aydiosmio | not sure about the dialplan |
| 16:07.43 | sb_mx | roguebug, i think that could be accomplished via DeadAGI |
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| 16:08.32 | watchy | anyone know what polycom 1.6.7 does? |
| 16:09.26 | watchy | any changes etc? |
| 16:09.38 | aydiosmio | consult the changelog |
| 16:09.53 | watchy | i dont have 1.6.7 :( |
| 16:10.05 | watchy | voipsupply wont ever get it to me |
| 16:10.06 | roguebug | ok thx sb_mx and aydiosmio. |
| 16:10.43 | roguebug | so i understand correctly: without agi/deadagi, the caller hangup abruptly ends everything, right? |
| 16:11.02 | aydiosmio | as far as I know |
| 16:11.04 | eKo1 | What does it mean when a get a message like: Peer 'foo' is now UNREACHABLE! |
| 16:11.29 | aydiosmio | it means you didn't feed the gremlin inside your computer |
| 16:11.59 | anthm | it might go to exten h |
| 16:12.06 | eKo1 | It turned intoa gremlin already? |
| 16:12.38 | watchy | anyone got sip 1.6.7 they can give me so i dont gotta call the bastards are poly |
| 16:12.45 | *** part/#asterisk nicchap (n=nicchap@216.209.85.2) |
| 16:12.59 | eKo1 | I also get a bunch of these: Peer 'foo' is now TOO LAGGED! |
| 16:13.13 | eKo1 | Would changing the qualify statement to something larger fix this? |
| 16:13.16 | aydiosmio | watchy: http://www.freedomphones.net/polycom/files/ |
| 16:13.23 | aydiosmio | it was on the internets |
| 16:13.39 | watchy | nice site to bookmark |
| 16:13.53 | sumasuma | Aug 9 16:07:46 WARNING[15195]: chan_sip.c:7255 handle_response: Forbidden - wrong password on authentication for REGISTER for |
| 16:14.04 | sumasuma | i have a registration problem with my asterisk |
| 16:14.07 | watchy | today aydiosmio: you are my hero |
| 16:14.08 | aydiosmio | you sank the battleship |
| 16:14.14 | sb_mx | roguebug, afaik deadagi is the thing to use when you want access to variables inside a hanged channel |
| 16:14.26 | eKo1 | sumasuma: I get those a lot sometimes but they are almost completely random. |
| 16:14.41 | *** part/#asterisk queuetue (n=scott@toronto-HSE-ppp4122670.sympatico.ca) |
| 16:14.50 | roguebug | ok thx |
| 16:14.57 | sumasuma | eK01: no they are really refusing it |
| 16:15.15 | sumasuma | eKo1: asterisk is actively refusing it |
| 16:15.29 | sumasuma | the user is not getting registered to asterisk |
| 16:15.32 | sumasuma | that is the problem |
| 16:15.40 | aydiosmio | sumasuma: check the password |
| 16:15.51 | aydiosmio | is the password correct in the register packet? |
| 16:15.55 | sumasuma | aydiosmio: without password it is working well |
| 16:16.05 | aydiosmio | do you have your capslock key on?:P |
| 16:16.09 | sumasuma | password is not sent in the packer sir |
| 16:16.20 | sumasuma | *packet |
| 16:16.25 | aydiosmio | is too. |
| 16:16.28 | sumasuma | nope |
| 16:16.33 | sumasuma | it is encrypted with md5 |
| 16:16.38 | aydiosmio | it's just hiding |
| 16:16.39 | sumasuma | and other values and sent |
| 16:16.44 | eKo1 | sumasuma: what happens when you remove the password? |
| 16:17.00 | SplasPood | aydiosmio: wow.. freedomphones never used to have the *latest* release |
| 16:17.01 | sumasuma | when i remove password, it is working very fine |
| 16:17.27 | vader-- | when using the goto app in the extensions.conf can you make it goto two extensions in one context? |
| 16:17.44 | vader-- | like Goto(internal,100|101,1) |
| 16:18.04 | aydiosmio | vader--: what would be the point of that? |
| 16:18.15 | sumasuma | vader--: when it goes to two estensions, which one to execute ? |
| 16:18.24 | vader-- | i want to ring two extensions at the same time |
| 16:18.35 | vader-- | from another context |
| 16:18.38 | sumasuma | Dial two extensions at the same time |
| 16:18.52 | aydiosmio | use a dial-group |
| 16:19.17 | sumasuma | dial group ? |
| 16:20.15 | sb_mx | vader--, maybe something like Dial(<tech>/<ext1>&<tech>/<ext2>) ? that rings both right? |
| 16:20.24 | vader-- | ya |
| 16:20.34 | vader-- | but i already have that setup in the other context |
| 16:21.04 | vader-- | that means i have to setup in two spots |
| 16:22.12 | aydiosmio | oh |
| 16:22.17 | watchy | anyone here running sip 1.6.7 on polys? |
| 16:22.18 | aydiosmio | ring group, I'm sorry |
| 16:22.43 | watchy | i wonder if i should deploy it |
| 16:23.10 | watchy | im gonna deploy it on my own system at work i guess |
| 16:23.49 | aydiosmio | Asterisk has the ability to ring multiple phones for the same call. Using the |
| 16:23.50 | aydiosmio | ! <function>Dial()</function> function we simply add an ampersand (&) between the two or more channels we wish to ring. |
| 16:24.02 | roguebug | about CDR: i'd like the caller to hear a welcome message and be able to choose a language, then he gets put through to the appropriate person, and i'd like the CDR to record if that (this Dial command) had a successful status. so far, the fact that i had to place an Answer command to be able to play the welcome text makes that the call always gets recorded as "ANSWERED" |
| 16:24.15 | roguebug | is the only way to get around that with deadagi? |
| 16:24.24 | roguebug | or is there some solution i don't see? |
| 16:25.14 | eKo1 | roguebug: the call is set to ANSWERED if you Answer() it. |
| 16:25.21 | eKo1 | That is normal. |
| 16:25.38 | TheCompWiz | can anyone tell me why the context used to dial out in the speed dial dialplan is "outbound-allroutes" instead of "from-internal"? |
| 16:25.44 | eKo1 | And you can check if this was because of the Dial() command or the Answer() command as well. |
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| 16:26.10 | eKo1 | TheCompWiz: is this a freepbx question? |
| 16:26.24 | TheCompWiz | yeah... (asked in #freepbx... but noone could give me an answer) |
| 16:26.27 | aydiosmio | he already asked |
| 16:26.50 | eKo1 | Ah. Good luck then. |
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| 16:29.02 | *** join/#asterisk jmang (n=not@24.79.192.187) |
| 16:29.15 | jmang | Good morning all. |
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| 16:29.36 | roguebug | eKo1: oh right, i can make the difference from the last app |
| 16:29.49 | roguebug | that way i won't even have to deadagi |
| 16:29.56 | roguebug | (probably) |
| 16:30.01 | jmang | I have a very quick question: I have eyeBeam, and I need to stop asterisk queues from sending calls to the second line. |
| 16:30.32 | TheCompWiz | eyeBeam? |
| 16:30.38 | jmang | It beeps in my agents ear, how do I turn off callwaiting, permanently? Without the agents having to dial a feature code? |
| 16:30.51 | jmang | eyeBeam is full version of x-lite. |
| 16:30.57 | roguebug | is it me or does cdr record the last app and data and destination context, but not the last priority? |
| 16:31.02 | TheCompWiz | x-lite + video. ah. |
| 16:31.06 | jmang | no |
| 16:31.08 | eKo1 | jmang: That is an eyeBeam question. |
| 16:31.12 | jmang | no |
| 16:31.31 | jmang | I need to turn off call waiting in asterisk |
| 16:31.34 | eKo1 | Callwaiting is a feature of the phone. |
| 16:31.35 | TheCompWiz | that is indeed an eyebeam question. |
| 16:31.38 | eKo1 | Not *. |
| 16:31.40 | *** join/#asterisk yoja (n=yoja@212.78.183.150) |
| 16:32.12 | jmang | I can't disable call waiting from asterisk? 'cause with trixbox you just dial *71, but I haven't got all that setup |
| 16:32.40 | TheCompWiz | if call waiting isn't enabled... call waiting is not enabled. |
| 16:32.44 | jmang | There must be a command that prevents asterisk from sending two simultaneous calls. |
| 16:32.51 | TheCompWiz | the phone has nothing to do with the call waiting. |
| 16:32.51 | yoja | hello here, I've read all tutorials etc but I cannot find an answer to my question, I hope someone here can help me. I have a granstream gxp2000 and at the place where I am now I cannot make a call but I do receive calls without problems |
| 16:33.16 | eKo1 | jmang: well, there is callwaiting stuff in zapata.conf I think |
| 16:33.22 | TheCompWiz | yoja... define "make" calls. |
| 16:33.28 | jmang | TheCompWiz: you're contradicting yourself. You just seaid it was an eyebeam question... |
| 16:33.28 | TheCompWiz | i.e. pickup handset & dial? |
| 16:33.30 | eKo1 | But that is for POTS. |
| 16:33.43 | jmang | hmm... |
| 16:33.44 | TheCompWiz | jmang... yes... you need to configure eyebeam to only use 1 line. |
| 16:33.58 | TheCompWiz | call waiting does not fit into that picture. |
| 16:34.01 | yoja | If I try to make a call nothing happens, the grandstream says no response from host |
| 16:34.07 | jmang | ok, but how does trixbox do it with just *71? |
| 16:34.07 | hmmhesays | extensions.conf doesn't deal with floating point numbers very well does it |
| 16:34.16 | yoja | in asterisk debug I see that he gives up after tries |
| 16:34.31 | TheCompWiz | yoja.. did you configure your out-bound routing correctly? |
| 16:34.43 | *** join/#asterisk jcmoore (n=jcmoore@unaffiliated/tgrman) |
| 16:34.47 | yoja | yes, this is all correclty. From different locations I can call with the same setup |
| 16:34.48 | eKo1 | jmang: ask in #trixbox |
| 16:35.00 | yoja | its with my new grandstream and in this new network that I have troubles |
| 16:35.09 | yoja | Aug 9 18:34:37 WARNING[20906]: chan_sip.c:694 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 94c98afeccf22fbb@212.78.183.150 for seqno 23198 (Non-critical Response) |
| 16:35.13 | TheCompWiz | different locations? ... different subnet? |
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| 16:35.44 | TheCompWiz | is it just that ONE phone in that ONE location? or all phones in that location? |
| 16:35.55 | yoja | I have no other phones in this location |
| 16:35.58 | jmang | eKo1: such a channel does not exist. |
| 16:36.12 | eKo1 | err, #freepbx i mean |
| 16:36.12 | TheCompWiz | ok... my bet... you didn't configure NATing correctly. |
| 16:37.12 | yoja | if i look at the debug output I get something like this, hold on |
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| 16:38.11 | vader-- | well so far things seem to working well |
| 16:38.15 | vader-- | some minor configuration things |
| 16:38.17 | vader-- | but nothing crazy |
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| 16:38.22 | TheCompWiz | yoja ... check your nating. is this location connected via PUBLIC WEB? ... or is it in your LAN? |
| 16:39.52 | yoja | is behind a router |
| 16:39.56 | roguebug | eKo1: about that ANSWERED status: i can't see if that Dial succeeded or not in AGI though, as in: did the caller hang up before someone could take the call or after someone took the call and answered him? |
| 16:40.05 | yoja | but i have configured the ports to redicrect to my static phone |
| 16:40.11 | roguebug | s/in AGI/in CDR/g |
| 16:40.11 | yoja | this works the same in my other location |
| 16:40.30 | TheCompWiz | in sip.conf nat=yes localnet=x.x.x.x/y.y.y.y externip=z.z.z.z x.x.x.x/y.y.y.y is your private network z.z.z.z is your public IP |
| 16:40.38 | yoja | normaly when nat was failing I could get incoming calls, outgoing was always easy. Now outgoings is vailing and incoming is working... |
| 16:41.11 | TheCompWiz | it's all because of what plays server & what plays client. and that depends on who's calling. |
| 16:43.19 | r_evolution | hehe thats the best thing ever |
| 16:44.18 | yoja | Allow: INVITE,ACK,CANCEL,BYE,NOTIFY,REFER,OPTIONS,INFO,SUBSCRIBE,UPDATE,PRACK |
| 16:44.18 | yoja | Content-Type: application/sdp |
| 16:44.18 | yoja | Content-Length: 311 |
| 16:44.18 | yoja | v=0 |
| 16:44.19 | yoja | o=zs1 8000 8002 IN IP4 212.78.183.150 |
| 16:44.19 | yoja | s=SIP Call |
| 16:44.20 | houdini | Does * derive alot of benefit from Dual CPUs? |
| 16:44.21 | yoja | c=IN IP4 212.78.183.150 |
| 16:44.23 | yoja | t=0 0 |
| 16:44.25 | yoja | m=audio 6450 RTP/AVP 0 8 4 18 3 101 |
| 16:44.27 | yoja | a=sendrecv |
| 16:44.29 | yoja | a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000 |
| 16:44.31 | yoja | a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000 |
| 16:44.33 | yoja | a=rtpmap:4 G723/8000 |
| 16:44.35 | yoja | a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000 |
| 16:44.37 | yoja | a=rtpmap:3 GSM/8000 |
| 16:44.39 | yoja | a=ptime:20 |
| 16:44.41 | yoja | a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000 |
| 16:44.43 | yoja | a=fmtp:101 0-AAAA |
| 16:44.45 | yoja | 13 headers, 15 lines |
| 16:44.49 | yoja | Ignoring this request |
| 16:44.51 | yoja | he goes ignoring the request.... |
| 16:44.59 | yoja | and he does a |
| 16:45.00 | yoja | Retransmitting #2 (NAT): |
| 16:45.00 | yoja | SIP/2.0 407 Proxy Authentication Required |
| 16:45.06 | file | please don't paste partial SIP and SDP into the channel |
| 16:45.20 | wunderkin | yeah, dont, paste it all ;D |
| 16:45.23 | r_evolution | quick! everyone ignore yoja |
| 16:45.24 | SplasPood | I have a situation where I need a loud ringer on a SIP phone for use in a noisy kitchen environment... Any suggestions? Could go the ATA->Analog Phone route too |
| 16:45.40 | wunderkin | take it all off! |
| 16:45.42 | yoja | it seems as though the reply never gets to the phone |
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| 16:46.01 | JT | relay and klaxton horn could work ;) |
| 16:46.05 | yoja | sorry about posting the comple sip thing, how should I do it? |
| 16:46.14 | eKo1 | ~pb |
| 16:46.28 | jbot | from memory, pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca/, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com/, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/, or for images use http://imageshack.us/, or http://www.paste-it.net/ |
| 16:46.28 | SplasPood | JT: hah.. yea I was coming up with all sorts of solutions like that.. I was wondering if there was anything "packaged" |
| 16:46.54 | yoja | jbot: thanks |
| 16:46.54 | jbot | yoja: pas de quoi |
| 16:47.13 | TheCompWiz | yoja... did you set the "Use NAT IP" in the phone? |
| 16:47.44 | yoja | no, I dont think its set now in the phone |
| 16:48.07 | TheCompWiz | well... now would be a good time to set it. |
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| 16:50.54 | yoja | what I should I put there? The IP of the phone? |
| 16:51.01 | roguebug | exten => s,1,PasteBin() |
| 16:51.54 | TheCompWiz | yoja... I believe... public IP of the network in NY |
| 16:52.49 | hmmhesays | well i managed to create a prepaid app without any agi |
| 16:53.19 | roguebug | (i just used the manager api extensively) |
| 16:55.17 | yoja | doesnt work... Okay Ill try some other things |
| 16:55.17 | yoja | have to go now, thanks for the support! |
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| 17:00.10 | jmang | for those who might want to limit the number of incoming calls to a device, like say eyeBeam which will take up to 6 calls before returning busy, use incominglimit=1 in sip.conf |
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| 17:00.40 | jmang | you don't need to do anything in the phone client. |
| 17:00.58 | jmang | this effectively disables call waiting. :) |
| 17:02.52 | TheCompWiz | why would you want to do that? |
| 17:05.02 | jmang | TheCompWiz:Because, when you talk to customers, it's obnoxious! |
| 17:05.17 | jmang | that's what queues are for. |
| 17:06.14 | TheCompWiz | using xten's software to talk to customers is annoying. |
| 17:06.16 | markdd200 | Hi guys - having some problems replacing my tdm400 with a tdm2400p. Summary is here if anyone want to have a look. http://pastebin.ca/123843 |
| 17:06.17 | TheCompWiz | get a real phone. |
| 17:08.58 | houdini | softphones are for cheap bastards... only exception is a road warrior/someone who travels alot |
| 17:09.57 | SplasPood | I use my softphone for testing |
| 17:10.03 | SplasPood | too bad there's no x-lite for intel macs |
| 17:10.24 | houdini | oh yeah, that too. :) |
| 17:10.35 | TheCompWiz | soft phones are good for emergencies.... "when all else fails" |
| 17:11.01 | markdd200 | softphones are handy if you're logged in remotely, but want to test outbound calling etc. vnc + softphone |
| 17:11.24 | TheCompWiz | vnc+softphone=oh crap... what'd I step on? |
| 17:11.30 | markdd200 | so - anyone able to take a look at my tdm2400p problem? http://pastebin.ca/123843 |
| 17:11.34 | houdini | yeah, but like having a call center with softphoens... I dunno. I've read of people doing it. |
| 17:11.38 | eLcHi | we recently replaced our old pbx with an asterisk system ... and we got hardware-phones for every client ... softphones are never that reliable in a company enviroment |
| 17:11.49 | houdini | "let me briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing out the database page" |
| 17:11.56 | eLcHi | call center is different tho |
| 17:12.05 | markdd200 | I used to work for a company that had cisco softphones for the call centre... they hated it. |
| 17:12.09 | eLcHi | callcenter is a enviroment were a softphone makes absolute sense |
| 17:12.16 | eLcHi | if done properly |
| 17:12.17 | eLcHi | *G* |
| 17:13.06 | houdini | another thing I dislike is headsets.. what is it with TV channels nowadays, going for the "headset" look... |
| 17:13.59 | DrkShdw | bluetooth headsets ar where it's at. |
| 17:14.35 | eLcHi | bluetooth headset ftw |
| 17:14.41 | TheCompWiz | eLcHi... when has a call center ever made sense? even softphones don't make sense. |
| 17:15.00 | DrkShdw | s/pinders/ponders/ |
| 17:15.13 | TheCompWiz | a hard phone + tweaked version of an operator panel = better idea. |
| 17:15.16 | eLcHi | B'TheCompWiz: thats besides the point ;) |
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| 17:15.31 | TheCompWiz | if you're using a soft phone... crash = hangup |
| 17:15.47 | TheCompWiz | and there is no such thing as a "good" softphone. |
| 17:16.16 | backblue | how can i auth some sip user, by ip, and not from user/pass? |
| 17:16.28 | Bullseye_Network | I have 80+ people using softphones with no problem. |
| 17:16.49 | TheCompWiz | drag+drop of a session to another queue is kinda nice. |
| 17:16.56 | eLcHi | i`ve been using a softphone to call my gf ... 3-4 hour calls no problem |
| 17:17.16 | TheCompWiz | but you don't need a softphone for that. |
| 17:17.20 | Bullseye_Network | The call centers I manage all use softphones |
| 17:17.24 | eLcHi | she`s in another country and i bought a flatrate to that ;) ... voip is so cool |
| 17:17.38 | TheCompWiz | Bullseye_Network... something tells me you are a tele-marketer. |
| 17:17.44 | Bullseye_Network | Not me. |
| 17:17.48 | eLcHi | his customers |
| 17:17.49 | eLcHi | :) |
| 17:18.01 | roguebug | in a perl agi script, what's the name of the var containing the args arg1 and arg2 passed to AGI(myscript.agi|arg1|arg2) ? |
| 17:18.25 | houdini | I like the feel fo a realphone... one of these dials I am ging to hook up my old Western Electric to my ATA |
| 17:18.29 | roguebug | (i'm definitely not a perl guy) |
| 17:18.36 | r_evolution | That was my arguement CompWiz... but no one listens to me :) |
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| 17:18.49 | r_evolution | SoftPhone... Windoze crash or freeze = hangup! |
| 17:19.07 | Bullseye_Network | All our softphones run on linux. |
| 17:19.13 | eLcHi | hehehehe |
| 17:19.17 | Bullseye_Network | No Winblows |
| 17:19.56 | eLcHi | i gotta admit my linux workstation crashed regularly .... during the night .... till i switched my screensaver to blank screen ... ;) |
| 17:20.17 | roguebug | ok ARGV got it |
| 17:21.27 | r_evolution | you must have a lot of free time to train 80+ people in a callcenter on how to use Linux :) |
| 17:21.55 | eLcHi | i guess they just got their call-center application running fullscreen |
| 17:22.02 | eLcHi | not able to do anything else |
| 17:22.05 | Bullseye_Network | r_evolution:why? I have 3 icons they click on. one for phone one for mozilla and one for a perl-tk app we write. |
| 17:22.20 | r_evolution | no billing ap? no info app? |
| 17:22.30 | backblue | how can i auth some sip user, by ip, and not from user/pass? |
| 17:22.36 | r_evolution | no email? |
| 17:22.41 | r_evolution | no internal communications at all? |
| 17:22.55 | r_evolution | No word processing? No spreadsheets? |
| 17:22.57 | eLcHi | we didnt have email 15 years ago ... callcenters can do without i guess ;) |
| 17:23.04 | eLcHi | i mean |
| 17:23.11 | eLcHi | all they should do all day is talk right ? |
| 17:23.13 | r_evolution | haha... there was email 15 years ago :) |
| 17:23.17 | eLcHi | yes |
| 17:23.22 | r_evolution | well not really |
| 17:23.22 | eLcHi | but not widely available |
| 17:23.29 | r_evolution | I work in a call center |
| 17:23.31 | nortex | backblue, You mean like restrict the device to connect from one IP? |
| 17:23.36 | r_evolution | i.e. i play games all day |
| 17:23.42 | backblue | nortex: yes, and dont need password. |
| 17:23.52 | r_evolution | and sometimes I do work on the ITSP end and on the internal iPBX |
| 17:23.56 | Bullseye_Network | r_evolution: they dont need all that. Everything we have designed is web based |
| 17:24.00 | r_evolution | and the CSRs do much more than just 'talk all day' |
| 17:24.06 | nortex | use host=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx instead of dynamic |
| 17:24.14 | r_evolution | Well... unless you ARE a tele-marketer... |
| 17:24.53 | backblue | nortex: so, no password and no secret, no username, no permit/deny, only host= ? |
| 17:24.59 | r_evolution | The CSRs here have reports to file... 'tracking tickets' (among others)... they use excel to keep track of monthly totals... they use outlook for emailing (not only in regards to company communication but also forms for customers) |
| 17:25.31 | hmmhesays | heh this actually works, I should wiki it |
| 17:25.48 | backblue | hmmhesays: what? |
| 17:26.02 | hmmhesays | this prepaid dailplan with no agi |
| 17:26.16 | backblue | we have prepaid, and no agi. |
| 17:26.35 | backblue | and multiple channels for the same account in the billing. |
| 17:26.43 | hmmhesays | define "we" |
| 17:26.49 | nortex | backblue, actually that may not work. You might check the wiki for the sip.conf options of insecure. |
| 17:27.05 | backblue | hmmhesays: we = the company i work for. |
| 17:27.11 | hmmhesays | ahh |
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| 17:29.04 | r_evolution | industrial rock makes me :-D |
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| 17:30.34 | jmang | yet another question... why does asterisk time, not match system time? |
| 17:30.53 | backblue | db.c: Unable to find key 'SIP/22001' in family 'cfb' -> what it's this mensages? |
| 17:31.37 | jmang | I have several time conditions in my dialplan, and even though my system time is correct, asterisk seems to be off by about 30-40 minutes... what is this about? |
| 17:32.02 | jmang | It causes serious problems for us |
| 17:32.35 | eKo1 | jmang: that doesn't make any sense. |
| 17:34.52 | jmang | eKo1:why not? I have conditions that are supposed to allow users into queues, b/w 9AM and 5PM, but it allows b/w 8:20 and 4:20 |
| 17:35.11 | jmang | eKo1: system time is correct. That's what doesn't make any sense. |
| 17:35.22 | momelod | what are the legalities regarding recording calls |
| 17:35.23 | eKo1 | Maybe it's a bug in app_queues. |
| 17:35.38 | eKo1 | It seems that a lot of people are having queue problems. |
| 17:35.42 | Bullseye_Network | momelod: depends on what state your in |
| 17:35.48 | momelod | Canada |
| 17:35.59 | Bullseye_Network | Dont know about canada. sorry. |
| 17:36.03 | momelod | np |
| 17:36.13 | jmang | eKo1: no. It's GotoIfTime(09:00-17:00|mon-fri|*|* |
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| 17:36.38 | jmang | momelod: I believe you just have to say it's being recorded. |
| 17:37.29 | jmang | eKo1: yet it was evaluating true and 8:20 AM |
| 17:37.56 | momelod | dang, i feel dirty. i dont want calls recorded :( |
| 17:38.14 | eKo1 | jmang: That is very strange. What version of * are you using? |
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| 17:38.34 | jmang | 1.2.10 |
| 17:39.05 | networkjedi | What do people use to load-test Asterisk systems before deploying them? |
| 17:39.07 | eKo1 | Hmm...are you able to reproduce the problem on another box? |
| 17:39.14 | jmang | eKo1: I believe I was having the same problem when I was using trixbox on another piece of hardware as well. |
| 17:39.17 | eKo1 | networkjedi: I use sipp |
| 17:39.41 | jmang | eKo1:it just doesn't make sense. |
| 17:39.51 | backblue | yes, sipp it's nice. |
| 17:40.04 | roguebug | when i place a Dial command inside a simple AGI script (even one that does nothing but to place that Dial), it behaves weirdly: |
| 17:40.06 | roguebug | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.12 | networkjedi | thank you!! I'll give it a try |
| 17:40.13 | eKo1 | jmang: It could be a bug. Try to reproduce it and if you get the same result, please report the bug. |
| 17:40.14 | roguebug | http://pastebin.ca/123886 |
| 17:40.22 | jmang | eKo1: I remember reading somewhere about asterisk only syncing with system time at reboot, and then it keeps its own time. |
| 17:40.42 | eKo1 | jmang: that seems bogus to me |
| 17:40.46 | jmang | eKo1: is there any way to check what time * thinks it is from the CLI? |
| 17:41.00 | jmang | eKo1: or perhaps to set the time from the CLI? |
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| 17:41.42 | eKo1 | As far as i know, * will use the system time. |
| 17:42.14 | jmang | eKo1: well, I guess it's time to read the source some more. |
| 17:42.56 | eKo1 | just grep localtime() |
| 17:42.57 | roguebug | ? i don't understand why a Dial command inside an AGI script doesn't behave the same as inside the dialplan. |
| 17:42.59 | eKo1 | or grep time() |
| 17:44.32 | jmang | thanks |
| 17:45.12 | clyrrad | I have a question about coding an AGI - I am trying to use the EXEC command but it keeps sending me back an error - I just want to be sure - If I EXEC a command like sip show peers - will that return the result into my AGI when I read in from STDIN? |
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| 17:46.38 | anthm | no exec is for dialplan apps |
| 17:46.46 | pokeypoke | Anyone know if there's a way to automatically log an agent out if he goes CHANUNAVAIL? Never hits the timeout so if he's the only agent in the queue the caller holds forever. |
| 17:46.52 | anthm | you need a cli interface for that |
| 17:46.57 | clyrrad | ok so how do i exectue a command like sip show peers and get its result into the AGI? |
| 17:47.10 | anthm | if there is not one in there you could make one |
| 17:47.21 | clyrrad | what do you mean? |
| 17:47.28 | anthm | there is a new way to register agi commands you could use to take the string and call ast_cli on the socket |
| 17:48.02 | clyrrad | could you please provide me a link that referes to what you are speaking of - I have not seen this |
| 17:48.15 | backblue | anthm: can you help me getting one sip user, registering by ip address? without user, and without password? |
| 17:48.19 | clyrrad | the actual command I need to get the result from is the show queue billing |
| 17:49.22 | anthm | deny=0.0.0.0/0 |
| 17:49.22 | anthm | ;LAN |
| 17:49.23 | anthm | permit=10.0.0.0/8 |
| 17:49.27 | anthm | in the conf |
| 17:49.34 | anthm | or whatever mask you want to allow |
| 17:49.48 | backblue | anthm: done it, does not work. |
| 17:49.51 | clyrrad | anthm do you have any other info for me? |
| 17:50.07 | riddlebox | benjk, you still around |
| 17:50.22 | benjk | yeah, unfortunately |
| 17:50.42 | riddlebox | benjk, did you upgrade your sipura from linux? |
| 17:50.45 | anthm | you put that in a profile type=friend and those acl lines it works |
| 17:50.58 | benjk | no, I got somebody to do it from a Windows box for me |
| 17:51.12 | anthm | clyrrad what version of the code do you use? |
| 17:51.21 | riddlebox | really, its just a tftp thing right? |
| 17:51.32 | benjk | yeah |
| 17:51.43 | clyrrad | anthm - Asterisk 1.2.10 |
| 17:51.44 | riddlebox | I will try it |
| 17:51.45 | backblue | anthm: done that it's type=friend, and mask does not work. |
| 17:51.59 | backblue | anthm: should i use insecure=very? |
| 17:52.57 | roguebug | i'm still hanging on my agi prob: i have a simple agi script that does nothing but $AGI->exec('Dial', $argv[0] ); |
| 17:53.15 | roguebug | and it doesn't behave like a Dial in extensions.conf: |
| 17:53.32 | roguebug | if the callee takes the call then hangs up, his phone rings again |
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| 17:53.36 | roguebug | any clue? |
| 17:54.57 | anthm | backblue you can try |
| 17:55.04 | backblue | the mask in the permit/deny does not work, only the host option have effect |
| 17:55.15 | clyrrad | anthm - did you see my version? |
| 17:55.19 | anthm | i just looked in our config and that is how we do it peers with very little besides acl lines |
| 17:55.27 | clyrrad | Asterisk 1.2.10 |
| 17:55.47 | backblue | anthm: can you show me your lines? or somekind of example? |
| 17:56.16 | anthm | see pm |
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| 17:56.38 | backblue | anthm: and acl.conf please! :o |
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| 17:57.59 | anthm | just allow deny lines |
| 17:58.16 | anthm | the stuff i showed you |
| 17:58.41 | backblue | anthm: i can permit from 2 ip address both time? |
| 17:58.49 | rushowr | hey all, anyone know if there's a problem with the 'g' option to Dial() ? Or maybe if you can't use it with M(macroname)? |
| 17:58.52 | backblue | multiple host lines? |
| 17:59.11 | clyrrad | anthm.... basically I want to be able to detect what members are part of a queue, and AddQueueMember from the AGI - the problem is I am not sure how to get the AGI to send those commands and get thier results... any ideas? |
| 17:59.13 | benjk | rushowr, what problem? |
| 17:59.30 | anthm | you need an agi command that lets you call cli commands |
| 17:59.34 | anthm | if there isnt one you need one |
| 17:59.38 | clyrrad | yes - what is that command? |
| 17:59.48 | rushowr | I'm using Dial(SIP/${EXTEN},60,gM(macro-updatestart)) |
| 17:59.53 | anthm | if you have paypal i can write you one =D |
| 17:59.56 | rushowr | and it's not continuing after the hangup |
| 18:00.09 | benjk | hehe |
| 18:00.11 | backblue | :D |
| 18:00.19 | backblue | i have paypal too. |
| 18:00.19 | benjk | who is hanging up? the caller? |
| 18:00.23 | rushowr | either |
| 18:00.29 | rushowr | it doesn't work in any case |
| 18:00.43 | benjk | I am just at this moment working on that same problem, but its not related to the Macro |
| 18:00.43 | rushowr | I know the called party is supposed to be the trigger to continue exec |
| 18:00.52 | rushowr | well, that's good to know :) |
| 18:00.59 | benjk | Dial() doesn't ccontinue if the caller hangs up |
| 18:01.00 | rushowr | now....why the hell isn't it working :-D |
| 18:01.12 | benjk | because Dial is a piece of crap |
| 18:01.16 | rushowr | hahahaha |
| 18:01.28 | benjk | seriously |
| 18:01.35 | rushowr | true but we gotta have it :) I know it is, it's rather schlepped |
| 18:01.39 | backblue | we are trying to re-write dial :) |
| 18:01.46 | rushowr | awesome |
| 18:01.51 | backblue | very very good nice improvements |
| 18:01.55 | rushowr | it's kludgey as hell |
| 18:01.58 | backblue | for billing proproses |
| 18:02.06 | rushowr | so a big question is, when's the last time it was known to work |
| 18:02.14 | backblue | pre-paid billing well done |
| 18:02.26 | rushowr | all I technically need is macro upon connect and execution after hangup |
| 18:02.30 | rushowr | here's another thing |
| 18:02.40 | rushowr | when the caller hangs up, the h extension doesn't take over |
| 18:02.51 | rushowr | I've got verbose statements that should come up but they dont' |
| 18:03.00 | rushowr | and this is for a MAJOR ITSP launch |
| 18:03.02 | backblue | that it's ok |
| 18:03.24 | backblue | h only go on, if the caller hangs up, before taking any action in the context |
| 18:03.26 | anthm | who was talking about problems and paypal together now lets line up... |
| 18:03.34 | benjk | rushowr, there is also another problem with using Macros in the Dial command |
| 18:03.47 | rushowr | oh shite.... |
| 18:04.02 | rushowr | now I gotta figure out how to update the start time from the pickuip |
| 18:04.04 | benjk | if you hang up before the call is bridged, while the macro is executing, then it will report back ANSWERED |
| 18:04.25 | rushowr | hrm.... |
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| 18:04.41 | benjk | I already fixed that one, but now I am trying to fix the caller hangs up before bridge scenario |
| 18:05.31 | rushowr | brb, trying something |
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| 18:06.25 | backblue | benjk: you fix that, but you have commited some patch or something? |
| 18:07.16 | jbalcomb | is there a limit to how many people join a meetme conference? |
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| 18:08.38 | puppet | jbalcomb: what your machine can handle |
| 18:08.57 | livesNbox | Hey guys ... looking for some help finding a good app to real-time monitor a call center (multiple queues) and report on them |
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| 18:09.09 | jbalcomb | puppet: that is perfect |
| 18:09.46 | benjk | I told russelb what to do, he said he will look at it and I presume that means he will apply the fix to the current branch |
| 18:09.58 | jmang | eKo1: you're right, it appears to use sys/time |
| 18:10.02 | clyrrad | puppet that better? |
| 18:10.21 | jmang | eKo1: but I don't see how there could be a bug with that. bizzare. |
| 18:10.24 | benjk | I am using BRIstuff, so the patches I will do are going to be submitted to Junghanns |
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| 18:10.57 | supjigatr | Is there a way to setup the default callerid to something other than "asterisk"? |
| 18:11.08 | supjigatr | I'd like it to say "Unknown" |
| 18:11.26 | benjk | grep -r "asterisk" *.c |
| 18:11.40 | supjigatr | So no var I can set? |
| 18:11.40 | benjk | vi <whatever file popped up> |
| 18:11.43 | benjk | change |
| 18:11.45 | supjigatr | Have to change in code? |
| 18:11.50 | benjk | make ; make install |
| 18:12.19 | benjk | you usually set caller id per client |
| 18:12.32 | benjk | in sip.conf, iax.conf, whateverprotocol.conf |
| 18:13.05 | benjk | callerid="Fred Flintstone"<1(212)555-1212> |
| 18:13.09 | supjigatr | Yea. |
| 18:13.18 | benjk | for each client/user |
| 18:13.28 | supjigatr | But I have calls inbound and it sets to asterisk if nothing comes in. |
| 18:13.35 | benjk | alternatively in the dialplan with SetCallerID |
| 18:13.47 | supjigatr | Also if I forget an extension it has a problem. |
| 18:14.09 | supjigatr | It would be nice to be able to change that default. |
| 18:14.35 | supjigatr | Any idea where in the code it resides? I'd be happy to patch it if I could find it easily. |
| 18:16.26 | clyrrad | Is there an AGI command that will allow me to call CLI commands? |
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| 18:17.27 | aydiosmio | anyone have an idea for running 4 lines in an office with only 2 pair telephone cabling? like powerline? |
| 18:18.11 | charles___ | aydiosmio: dude get the cables |
| 18:18.14 | aydiosmio | ip phones over powerline... way |
| 18:18.21 | charles___ | aydiosmio: stop that, get decent stuff |
| 18:18.31 | aydiosmio | charles___: yeah I had the client get a quote for cabling the office |
| 18:18.31 | charles___ | aydiosmio: 4 lines you need 8 wires |
| 18:18.45 | aydiosmio | just trying to be clever |
| 18:19.03 | riddlebox | benjk, I tried the upgrade with wine and the tool says invalid ip address, I guess I will have to setup tftp |
| 18:19.27 | aydiosmio | charles___: it's a brownstone, recabling is expensive |
| 18:19.32 | benjk | yeah I had crap like that myself, which is why I asked somebody else with a Windows machine to do it for me |
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| 18:19.45 | ghenry | nice funding for digium! |
| 18:19.47 | charles___ | use voip and wireless so |
| 18:19.48 | ghenry | 13+Mil |
| 18:19.51 | charles___ | or use all cordless phones |
| 18:20.04 | aydiosmio | charles___: they have wifi voip phones and they ddrop calls like mad |
| 18:20.17 | charles___ | aydiosmio: probably cheap stuff |
| 18:20.37 | aydiosmio | probably, this is a smalltime gig |
| 18:20.38 | charles___ | aydiosmio: ask them if they want a solution or a thing that they will have to replace again |
| 18:20.48 | charles___ | aydiosmio: cheap stuff already made them spend double |
| 18:20.51 | benjk | mad doesn't drop calls for me, plays music on hold very nicely :D |
| 18:21.15 | charles___ | benjk: depends how mad you are |
| 18:21.31 | benjk | mad enough not to use mpg123 |
| 18:21.41 | benjk | but use mad instead |
| 18:21.46 | charles___ | benjk: :P |
| 18:21.58 | charles___ | benjk: my mpg123 use 10 times more cpu than my xmms :P |
| 18:22.10 | benjk | dont use mpg123 |
| 18:22.35 | aydiosmio | fight fight fight |
| 18:22.36 | puppet | why are you using mpg123? |
| 18:22.39 | puppet | when * got it native |
| 18:22.41 | charles___ | I use mpg321 |
| 18:22.45 | Qwell | why not just use native? |
| 18:22.45 | aydiosmio | mpg321 > mpg123 |
| 18:22.46 | Qwell | charles___: umm |
| 18:22.52 | anthm | if you insist on doing pipe moh use rawplayer |
| 18:22.53 | Qwell | charles___: mpg321 does not work with asterisk |
| 18:23.13 | anthm | it's like 0 cpu cos it's in the right format and no conversion necessary |
| 18:23.18 | charles___ | Qwell: I made it work |
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| 18:24.02 | charles___ | Qwell: do you have some ice cream ? |
| 18:24.08 | Qwell | I do, but none for you |
| 18:24.14 | clyrrad | Is there an AGI command that will allow me to call CLI commands? |
| 18:24.27 | aydiosmio | what cabling type do home telephone installs use normally? isn't 3 pair? |
| 18:24.59 | Juggie | 3pair? |
| 18:25.01 | Juggie | hah |
| 18:25.01 | aydiosmio | I don't think Ive ever seen 4 pair in a home from a telco |
| 18:25.10 | charles___ | Qwell: if you don't share some of your ice cream with us 280 here on the channel I'm going to call the channel bank hunter on you ! |
| 18:25.12 | Juggie | cat3 :) |
| 18:25.31 | Juggie | aydiosmio, all new houses are wired w/ cat5 for phone |
| 18:25.36 | Juggie | at least from any decent builder |
| 18:25.39 | Qwell | charles___: pfft, why would I hunt myself? |
| 18:26.09 | Qwell | disect "channel bank hunter", and you've got "channel"...check, "bank"...check, and "hunter"...check |
| 18:26.11 | r_evolution | i'll hunt you qwell! |
| 18:26.22 | aydiosmio | new houses, of course |
| 18:26.34 | clyrrad | Can anyone help me out with my AGI question? |
| 18:26.35 | aydiosmio | but this brownstone is almost 70 years old |
| 18:27.07 | charles___ | aydiosmio: dude, you've got plan that shift |
| 18:27.15 | sb_mx | clyrrad, yes. what are you coding in? |
| 18:27.19 | clyrrad | PHP |
| 18:27.49 | charles___ | aydiosmio: I would do a way that it will work with no question |
| 18:27.53 | clyrrad | I just need a way to have my AGI get queue memebers like how the show queue billing command works from the CLI |
| 18:27.59 | dlynes_laptop | clyrrad: wouldn't it be something like system("asterisk -rx myclicommand")? |
| 18:28.23 | clyrrad | dlynes_laptop - no clue thats why I am asking here hehe |
| 18:28.24 | charles___ | aydiosmio: if you don't do wire or don't want to do, and you can afford the expenses, get some wireless gear, make them work on data layer than run voip on it with qos |
| 18:28.31 | sb_mx | clyrrad, if you want to use an agi, you'll need the class to connect to AMI (called phpagi-asmanager) |
| 18:28.52 | aydiosmio | yeah |
| 18:28.59 | clyrrad | ahhhhhhhh |
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| 18:29.19 | clyrrad | there was the missing bit of info - so with that class I can call CLI commands from AGI? |
| 18:29.48 | [TK]D-Fender | clyrrad: Like I mentioned ;) |
| 18:30.00 | clyrrad | yea just didnt know what it was called |
| 18:30.35 | sb_mx | with that class you can use the AMI commands from AGI |
| 18:30.52 | clyrrad | sb_mx - thank you very much for that info :) |
| 18:30.53 | charles___ | Qwell: I have heard about channel bank hunters who had failed killing their prey, they have left multilated souls around all world. |
| 18:30.57 | jake1932 | when I make a call from SIP phone -> IAX -> IAX provider, the pstn phone rings - I pick the phone up and the call gets disconnected - any ideas? |
| 18:31.04 | jmang | eKo1: asterisk uses HW clock, not OS clock. :) |
| 18:31.13 | sb_mx | clyrrad, yw |
| 18:31.21 | jmang | eKo1: my hw clock is off by an hour. :( silly me. |
| 18:31.26 | hmmhesays | bah, why can't I get my unique id field to populate |
| 18:32.24 | charles___ | my asterisk use a rolex for clocking, since the tag heuer got eaten by a python. |
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| 18:33.33 | riddlebox | benjk, if you have an apache server running its real easy to upgrade the sipura |
| 18:33.56 | benjk | it was easier to dump the task on somebody else |
| 18:34.41 | charles___ | benjk: would you arrange me a data with the girl who says "The number you have riched is unavailable" |
| 18:34.50 | charles___ | s/data/date |
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| 18:34.51 | charles___ | s/data/date/g |
| 18:35.02 | charles___ | jbot: bot burro ali nao |
| 18:35.07 | benjk | charles, that's a guy |
| 18:35.12 | jake1932 | a unic |
| 18:35.14 | benjk | and his name is Cepstral Lawrence |
| 18:35.21 | benjk | and he's synthetic too |
| 18:35.35 | Mercestes | Sounds perfect for Charles. |
| 18:35.42 | charles___ | benjk: not the synthetic siliconed one, I want the girl |
| 18:35.53 | benjk | and he speeks in perfect Queens English |
| 18:35.58 | charles___ | benjk: the same who says, "All our circuits are busy" |
| 18:36.10 | benjk | no I don't use that one |
| 18:36.24 | Rawplayer | hey, is there a sequal for oreilly's asterisk book |
| 18:36.35 | Rawplayer | or any other voip book that is really hot! |
| 18:36.35 | benjk | I recorded the prompts with British text |
| 18:36.58 | benjk | like the Privacy Manager says "Oh Dear, the number you have entered could not be recognised" |
| 18:37.23 | Mercestes | I like, "weasels have taken over our phone switch." |
| 18:37.26 | charles___ | benjk: here is something like "Buenas Hermano, punch the numbah" |
| 18:37.45 | benjk | I can imagine |
| 18:37.53 | watchy | wheres the sata drivers in linux kernels makemenuconfig? |
| 18:38.12 | Mercestes | wrong room, Watchy. Try #gentoo |
| 18:38.26 | Mercestes | watchy: But they are under SCSI and SCSI low level drivers. |
| 18:38.48 | watchy | ah thanks |
| 18:39.46 | charles___ | benjk: I have an orgasm at every echo test |
| 18:39.55 | charles___ | benjk: :P |
| 18:40.08 | benjk | ewww |
| 18:40.26 | benjk | reminds me of the news last night on Japanese TV |
| 18:40.36 | hmmhesays | anyone know why my unique id is not being logged in cdr mysql? |
| 18:41.00 | benjk | a Japanese guy was arrested after he had called directory enquiries 30.000 times and never say a word |
| 18:41.16 | benjk | he said he liked to listen to the female voices of the operators |
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| 18:42.12 | charles___ | benjk: hauhauhuahau |
| 18:42.23 | charles___ | benjk: that's why people charge for 441 :P |
| 18:42.42 | benjk | its 104, but never mind |
| 18:42.53 | benjk | also they charge only AFTER they gave you a number |
| 18:43.03 | benjk | not if you stay silent |
| 18:43.08 | charles___ | hauahauhau |
| 18:43.15 | charles___ | benjk: cheap bastard |
| 18:43.21 | benjk | I was wondering how long this was going on |
| 18:43.36 | benjk | if you make 100 calls a day, it would still take you almost a year to make 30.000 calls |
| 18:43.41 | charles___ | benjk: he could as her complete name and then ask her phone |
| 18:44.02 | benjk | I doubt that would have been successful though |
| 18:44.07 | charles___ | benjk: that guy probably had nothing to do |
| 18:44.19 | benjk | heh |
| 18:44.24 | charles___ | benjk: I believe that isn't going to be too difficult |
| 18:44.32 | watchy | hmm i wonder how i find out which sata driver to use on my linux kernel |
| 18:44.38 | watchy | i guess ill load them all |
| 18:44.55 | charles___ | benjk: call the girl, tell her that it's the 29999 time that he calls and he gets the wrong number, ask for a manager, she will try to solve, he say what's your name, then get the manager |
| 18:44.56 | charles___ | :P |
| 18:45.10 | hmmhesays | is there any good way to execute multiple dialplan commands on hangup? |
| 18:46.12 | benjk | things don't work like that over here |
| 18:46.28 | benjk | hmmhesays, everybody seems to be having the same issue today |
| 18:46.50 | charles___ | benjk: do you drink canada dry ? |
| 18:47.07 | benjk | I am trying to teach Dial to not swallow the return status on hangup, but some cases are resisting |
| 18:47.09 | charles___ | team enemy down "hub just fall off" |
| 18:47.42 | roguebug | so after Dial(...) in an agi script, how do i know if the caller hung up before the callee took the call or if they actually got to talk together? |
| 18:47.45 | charles___ | benjk: deadagi ? |
| 18:47.55 | benjk | no agis |
| 18:48.19 | benjk | just a simple NoOp(${DIALSTATUS}) |
| 18:48.29 | hmmhesays | huh? |
| 18:48.53 | benjk | when you call Dial with the g option, it should continue after hangup |
| 18:49.04 | anthm | if they ever documented anything you would know you can also do Verbose(<text>) now too =D |
| 18:49.24 | benjk | but only if the destination hangs up |
| 18:49.41 | benjk | it should do the same thing also if the caller hangs up |
| 18:49.55 | benjk | Dial is so utterly broken its not funny |
| 18:50.05 | hmmhesays | whoops i guess you can have multiple priorities for extensions h |
| 18:50.14 | benjk | it never goes to h |
| 18:50.21 | networkjedi | With SIPp would it be possible to have Asterisk send the test call to an IP phone instead of just testing to the * server? I want to pump calls of random call length to an IP phone and let it run for x hours. I would set the line on the phone to auto-answer so the phone answers and then disconnects when the call is complete |
| 18:50.46 | benjk | not if the caller hangs up |
| 18:51.26 | hmmhesays | good thing i wasn't talking to you then |
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| 18:53.33 | roguebug | well so, to cover the case where the caller hangs up, i place the call from within a deadagi |
| 18:53.35 | rene1 | hello |
| 18:53.41 | rene1 | i am looking for an astmanproxy gru |
| 18:53.43 | rene1 | guru |
| 18:53.43 | benjk | ok, now it goes to h at least |
| 18:53.54 | benjk | but the DIALSTATUS is borked |
| 18:53.59 | roguebug | the only thing is: how do i even know the caller hung up ? |
| 18:54.18 | benjk | -- Executing NoOp("SIP/2025-4e1c", "in ext h -- CANNSWER") in new stack |
| 18:55.00 | nortex | rene1, What for? |
| 18:55.00 | benjk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.01 | benjk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.12 | benjk | that's how you know :) |
| 18:56.10 | roguebug | ok so to sum up: no deadagi, place the Dial with 'g' option and define an h extension match in case the caller hung up ? |
| 18:56.10 | benjk | if ((winner == in) && (in->_state == AST_STATE_RING) && (ast_check_hangup(in)) { ... |
| 18:56.16 | benjk | that's how you determine it |
| 18:56.36 | charles___ | wow |
| 18:56.39 | charles___ | I fall asleep here |
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| 18:57.16 | benjk | but I still have to figure out how to let it continue in the dialplan when the g option is given |
| 18:57.17 | benjk | because it doesn't do that |
| 18:57.17 | roguebug | ? |
| 18:57.25 | benjk | also wonder why my DIALSTATUS is borked |
| 18:57.30 | benjk | CANNSWER |
| 18:57.34 | benjk | whazzat? |
| 18:58.52 | roguebug | so right now, is there a way for me to set the userfield in CDR depending on whether or not the callee and caller actually had a communication or not? |
| 18:59.27 | benjk | in most cases yes |
| 18:59.28 | roguebug | (in a call that's already Answered) |
| 18:59.59 | roguebug | (Answer was placed for playing welcome message etc.) |
| 19:00.35 | roguebug | so excuse my lack of understanding of what you said above, but: how do i do it then? |
| 19:02.01 | rene1 | i am trying to run two astmanproxy instances on the same machine, the only way i see where the configuration file is defined is at the astmanproxy Makefile, |
| 19:02.15 | rene1 | astmanproxy does not have a CLI switch to use a different Makefile |
| 19:02.24 | benjk | I first need to fix the issues |
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| 19:03.01 | roguebug | benjk: ok thx |
| 19:05.45 | syzygyBSD | is there a way to send a voicemail notification to multiple email addresses |
| 19:06.07 | roguebug | procmail ;-) |
| 19:06.30 | charles___ | syzygyBSD: use a forward account |
| 19:06.50 | charles___ | syzygyBSD: but you can probably separate them with comas |
| 19:06.53 | syzygyBSD | :( I was hoping to keep all the configuration in the same place |
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| 19:06.57 | charles___ | mail@mail.com, mail@email.com |
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| 19:07.11 | syzygyBSD | options in voicemail.conf are seperated with commas, |
| 19:07.13 | *** part/#asterisk mog (i=ejabberd@c-71-207-215-93.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 19:07.13 | kpettit | I've got a stupid doorbell ringer thing that I'm hooking up to a FX card. It acts like a normal analog phone except it's like it's just picking up the receiver, it dosen't actually dial anything |
| 19:07.17 | syzygyBSD | that would be email/pager |
| 19:07.27 | kpettit | Whenever you push the button on the device I can see it open up the Zap channel, it just dosen't do anything. any suggetsions? |
| 19:07.33 | syzygyBSD | possibly a semi colon.... |
| 19:07.46 | kpettit | any way i can force a zap channel when opened to do a dial? |
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| 19:11.20 | aydiosmio | anyone have an idea what cable installers charge for wiring an existing single floor with cat-5? |
| 19:11.39 | denon | lots of people charge by the drop |
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| 19:11.49 | denon | I'd guess it depends on the area you're in |
| 19:12.09 | syzygyBSD | probably depends on the construction of the house too |
| 19:12.10 | aydiosmio | yeah, in NYC in a old ass building, I'm sure the 4 drops are gonna be expensive as shit |
| 19:12.20 | denon | well .. |
| 19:12.34 | denon | Ive seen people do like $120 per drop, irregardless of the building |
| 19:12.39 | Assid | hey [TK]D-Fender, whats the name of the card you told me again? |
| 19:12.43 | aydiosmio | wow |
| 19:12.45 | denon | so if there are two drops together, 120 each .. if one is 10 feet from the wire room .. still 120 |
| 19:12.46 | aydiosmio | that's a good deal |
| 19:13.30 | roguebug | benjk: hey i found another funny thing: |
| 19:13.34 | denon | you'd really need to know what you're doing to come up with that number, though |
| 19:13.48 | denon | if you havent done a lot of wiring, you'll spend a lot more time getting through weird walls and such |
| 19:13.50 | roguebug | benjk: i place a Dial command then a Hangup, |
| 19:14.23 | hmmhesays | hmm how hard would it be to make asterisk update the cdr before extension h is called |
| 19:14.42 | roguebug | benjk: if either the caller hangs up during the dial or the callee takes the call and then hangs up, the last app in cdr is dial |
| 19:15.00 | benjk | yeah I know |
| 19:15.06 | roguebug | benjk: however, if i do the same thing with the dial placed form inside a deadagi, |
| 19:15.37 | roguebug | benjk: the last app is hangup if the callee took the call and hung up |
| 19:15.59 | roguebug | benjk: strange, eh? t |
| 19:16.06 | roguebug | s/t//g |
| 19:16.33 | dlynes_laptop | denon: yeah...crazy people |
| 19:16.45 | dlynes_laptop | denon: i would never do $120/drop in some buildings :) |
| 19:16.49 | benjk | yeah the whole Dial app is a big mess |
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| 19:17.01 | TheCompWiz | is it possible to connect asterisk to a mgcp provider? |
| 19:17.09 | roguebug | benjk: but if the caller hangs up after the callee took the call, the last app is still Dial |
| 19:17.18 | denon | dlynes_laptop: well, most of these places are larger network firms, that can average it out .. easier to quote a flat rate and go do it, than to send a guy out to look around, then propose, quote, then do |
| 19:17.29 | roguebug | even with the dial placed from within deadagi |
| 19:17.37 | dlynes_laptop | denon: especially in buildings where you have to drill through concrete, or spend 2 hours getting cable up through a cable shaft that's already full |
| 19:17.42 | denon | plus, you make a killing on drops that are just a few feet away |
| 19:17.53 | dlynes_laptop | denon: yeah, i suppose |
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| 19:18.01 | elec__ | asterisk sends an INVITE message in the form of INVITE sip:extension@host:port can we strip the port in the message header? |
| 19:18.01 | denon | I dont know that I would do it that way personally either |
| 19:18.04 | denon | just tellin' it like it is |
| 19:18.05 | denon | :) |
| 19:18.06 | dlynes_laptop | denon: but 90% of our jobs are far from being easy |
| 19:18.31 | denon | yeah, you probably get called when the local tech doesnt want to screw with it |
| 19:18.37 | denon | but he doesnt call you for the short easy stuff |
| 19:18.39 | dlynes_laptop | so we generally quote based on the complexity of the job |
| 19:18.48 | denon | you've gotta get *all* the jobs for it to work out |
| 19:18.51 | TheCompWiz | elec__ setup a custom registration string. |
| 19:19.01 | dlynes_laptop | or sometimes if it's a really bitchy job, we quote by the hour, not by the drop |
| 19:19.17 | denon | yeah, im a fan of time and materials for that kinda stuff |
| 19:19.42 | dlynes_laptop | denon: besides...none of these job sites have local techs |
| 19:19.51 | denon | ic |
| 19:19.59 | dlynes_laptop | denon: they're predominantly small offices with at the most eight staff |
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| 19:20.26 | dlynes_laptop | the larger jobs, we always quote by the drop |
| 19:20.48 | denon | brb |
| 19:21.14 | paryl | hi everyone... i've been regularly getting vm issues... where the phone shows a message, the user goes to listen to the message and it doesn't play back, i go in and there's a .txt file, but no .wav file |
| 19:21.30 | paryl | has anyone else run into this before? |
| 19:21.31 | dlynes_laptop | paryl: which version of asterisk are you using? |
| 19:21.45 | dlynes_laptop | paryl: something previous to 1.2.9.1? |
| 19:22.10 | paryl | actually... yeah... 1.2.7.1 |
| 19:22.17 | dlynes_laptop | paryl: yeah...upgrade |
| 19:22.21 | dlynes_laptop | paryl: that bug's been fixed |
| 19:22.28 | dlynes_laptop | paryl: it was a race condition |
| 19:22.36 | paryl | i didn't even realize mine was that old |
| 19:22.42 | paryl | awesome, thank you much |
| 19:22.52 | dlynes_laptop | paryl: 1.2.10 is the latest and greatest(?) |
| 19:23.26 | dlynes_laptop | paryl: yeah...the bug was there for a while...it got fixed 2 or 3 times before finally getting fixed for good |
| 19:23.38 | dlynes_laptop | paryl: 1.2.7.1 had two of the fixes in, but not the final one |
| 19:23.41 | paryl | yeah, it's been there since i first install asterisk |
| 19:23.43 | TheCompWiz | fixed for good = smashed with hammer? |
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| 19:24.22 | paryl | i get it 1-3 times a day though :\ |
| 19:24.36 | dlynes_laptop | paryl: your voicemail must be damned busy |
| 19:24.46 | paryl | haha, indeed :) |
| 19:26.12 | dlynes_laptop | paryl: for the most part the problem reared its head when someone was checking voicemail at the same time someone was leaving voicemail |
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| 19:26.34 | dlynes_laptop | paryl: or when someone was deleting voicemail at the same time someone was leaving some |
| 19:27.08 | paryl | right... i tracked it to exactly that... i'm so glad to know it's been fixed! |
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| 19:29.26 | ohad | hi, i want to setup an alert message to be set infront of the main greeting.. - i want to add the option **1 to turn the alert msg on. **0 to turn it off and **2 with a passcode of 1234 to record a msg |
| 19:29.35 | ohad | any idea how and where to do that? |
| 19:29.38 | ohad | i'm a newbie |
| 19:30.07 | queuetue | I have finally got around to setting up port 3 on my TDM400 with ports 3+4 as FXOs. I've discovered that one telco line when plugged into port3 is always busy. The other telco line whe plugged into port 3 answers, but immediately hangs up. Both of these behaviors are repeatable. Can anyone explain? Is this FXO bunk? (Does everyone have these problems with these cards?) |
| 19:30.12 | [TK]D-Fender | ohad: pastebin your current IVR setup. |
| 19:30.34 | queuetue | Port 4 works flawlessly. |
| 19:30.46 | [TK]D-Fender | ohad: I'd normally make 2 quick scripts to set a value in AstDB for this to enable/disable "temp" warnings like that |
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| 19:31.27 | riddlebox | benjk, do you remember the default password of the sipura? |
| 19:32.12 | benjk | no |
| 19:32.18 | Qwell | 123456 or something stupid, isn't it? |
| 19:32.43 | riddlebox | I thought so, but I cannot get it to work |
| 19:34.47 | aydiosmio | go to www.sipura.com/Documents/faq/index.htm the default password that resets all the configuration settings to factory default settings is 73738# and can ... |
| 19:34.50 | aydiosmio | ? |
| 19:35.32 | jake1932 | I can complete calls with IAX - the caller is hung up on as soon as they pick up the phone http://pastebin.ca/124016 |
| 19:35.35 | aydiosmio | default for the UI is admin with no password |
| 19:35.38 | jake1932 | s/can/can't |
| 19:35.53 | riddlebox | aydiosmio, there is no web ui after a default though |
| 19:35.57 | elec__ | TheCompWiz where do i setup a custom registration string in the asterisk? |
| 19:36.22 | aydiosmio | really? my SPA1001 has one |
| 19:37.40 | riddlebox | aydiosmio, it is turned off by default |
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| 19:40.03 | aydiosmio | I mean the SPA1001 has it enabled by default |
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| 19:42.07 | hmmhesays | heh that was a trivial change |
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| 19:47.33 | riddlebox | I found the problem, it is provisioned to work with broadvoice and it defaulted to their network |
| 19:49.17 | riddlebox | I tried the factory reset code and thats what happened |
| 19:50.17 | aydiosmio | yay |
| 19:50.30 | aydiosmio | that's good, right? |
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| 19:51.19 | aydiosmio | that's cute. |
| 19:51.22 | riddlebox | aydiosmio, I want it to totally be defaulted, I dont want any broadvoice stuff in there |
| 19:51.50 | aydiosmio | the boradvoice stuff is in the bootrom |
| 19:52.03 | aydiosmio | or eeprom I guess it would be |
| 19:52.11 | aydiosmio | need to reflash it to change that |
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| 20:05.46 | hmmhesays | bah |
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| 20:14.10 | brif8 | I'm trying to setup a SIP phone which is remote from the asterisk server and connects via the Internet. sip show peers shows the phone listed and it's IP address but when I call the phone I get displayed on the Asterisk console "484 Address Incomplete" message and ideas ? |
| 20:15.44 | eKo1 | How are you calling it? |
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| 20:17.26 | xnon | hello friends how are u |
| 20:17.43 | xnon | well i have a problem with mi asterisk central phone |
| 20:17.51 | xnon | respect for codecs |
| 20:17.58 | Libila | anyone in here know why askterisk keeps saying everything is congested when I go to make an outbound call on ZAP/g0? http://rafb.net/paste/results/xUVtkZ81.html is the output |
| 20:18.09 | xnon | i have a 1 IP phone ALLNET 7950 |
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| 20:18.33 | eKo1 | Libila: because all the lines are occupied? |
| 20:18.43 | xnon | anybody can helpme? |
| 20:18.47 | brif8 | eKo1: I dial the extension assoicated which does a Dial(SIP/650) |
| 20:18.50 | Libila | eKo1: No, no one else is using the phones. |
| 20:18.51 | GordonF | Hi all |
| 20:19.02 | eKo1 | Libila: restart Asterisk |
| 20:19.10 | Libila | I have |
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| 20:19.34 | eKo1 | Libila: maybe g0 has no channels in it. |
| 20:19.46 | deb_user | anybody use asterisk with bluetooth enabled headsets? |
| 20:19.55 | Dr-Linux | Libila: what about your zapata.conf? |
| 20:19.57 | xnon | umm no |
| 20:19.59 | eKo1 | deb_user: you mean a phone |
| 20:20.08 | Libila | eKo1: hmm I did show channels and it didn't show anything. Maybe your right. I'll paste my zapata.conf |
| 20:20.12 | eKo1 | Why would I need a bluetooth headset with *? |
| 20:20.19 | xnon | anybody know about codecs?????? |
| 20:20.25 | eKo1 | xnon: yes |
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| 20:20.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Libila: And please read the channel topic.... |
| 20:20.42 | deb_user | eko: so that I could be wire free while using X-Ten or any other soft phone |
| 20:21.03 | eKo1 | deb_user: so this has nothing to do with * then. |
| 20:21.21 | [TK]D-Fender | deb_user: that wouldn't * using BT, its be your softphone.... |
| 20:21.37 | deb_user | eko: well, it does, the other day I heard a podcast with Mark Spencer that says * has bluetooth tracking support |
| 20:21.42 | xnon | eKo1, i have a problem with codecs + asterisk + ALL7950 |
| 20:21.45 | [TK]D-Fender | * BT is for using originate commands from the CLI and using that as the audio device. |
| 20:21.51 | xnon | + XLITE 3.0 |
| 20:22.04 | eKo1 | deb_user: never heard of it. Sorry. |
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| 20:24.36 | _4d4m_ | brif8: a 484 indicates the SIP r-uri is not complete. do a sip debug. its often the UA not collecting the digits completely before transmitting the SIP INVITE |
| 20:25.37 | brif8 | _4d4m_: any ideas how to correct the phone is a CISCO 7960 |
| 20:26.02 | _4d4m_ | brif8: if it is the phone, make sure the firmware is up2date |
| 20:26.41 | _4d4m_ | am not too savvy with Cisco kit.. not sure if there is a setting in the config that could cause the overlap dialing |
| 20:26.43 | brif8 | _4d4m_: yes it was working local on the same network as the asterisk server now that it is remote it won't even though asterisk does see it in sip show peers |
| 20:26.51 | houdini | Anybody running MySQL with a heavy-traffic * install? |
| 20:27.31 | charles___ | _4d4m_: dialplan on the phone |
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| 20:27.59 | ki2k | does anyone have any recommendation for an asterisk book? |
| 20:28.01 | charles___ | _4d4m_: the answer is dialplan.xml |
| 20:28.10 | _4d4m_ | charles___: yah was thinking the same, but if it was working locally and the UA hasnt changed...? |
| 20:28.27 | charles___ | _4d4m_: changed the firmware ? |
| 20:28.52 | _4d4m_ | brif8: care to fill us in? have you changed the phone config at all since moving your * box? |
| 20:28.56 | charles___ | _4d4m_: issues on 8.3 with # |
| 20:29.42 | _4d4m_ | charles___: thanks.. will bear that in mind |
| 20:29.54 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 20:29.56 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 |
| 20:30.03 | brif8 | _4d4m_: just on the phone I'm using the internet address and not the LAN address other than that no changes. I can ping the phone from the asterisk server so there is a link/connection |
| 20:30.05 | [TK]D-Fender | ki2k: there |
| 20:30.34 | ki2k | TK : already have it |
| 20:30.37 | ki2k | reading it right now |
| 20:30.44 | ki2k | is there any other recommendations? |
| 20:31.03 | charles___ | brif8: what's the issue? |
| 20:31.14 | [TK]D-Fender | ki2k: Nope, thats the best one out there. |
| 20:31.21 | ki2k | ah ok |
| 20:31.23 | _4d4m_ | brif8: easy way to find out.. enable sip debug at * cli, watch the SIP messages when you dial an extension.. see what transpires. if it sends a separate INVITE for each digit in the extension, then the problem is with your phone |
| 20:31.23 | [TK]D-Fender | ki2k: The rest mostly suck |
| 20:31.26 | [TK]D-Fender | BBIAB |
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| 20:31.35 | ki2k | tk: anyone else here using vicidial? |
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| 20:32.03 | brif8 | _4d4m_: I have sip debug ip <phones ip> and I see nothing |
| 20:32.35 | charles___ | brif8: firewall stuff |
| 20:32.40 | charles___ | brif8: any nat involved ? |
| 20:32.44 | brif8 | charles___: I have a 7960 which is remote from asterisk and when I dial it I get a 484 messages |
| 20:32.56 | brif8 | charles___: no and no |
| 20:33.15 | charles___ | brif8: got the IP from both sides ? is cisco registering ? |
| 20:33.25 | *** join/#asterisk dlynes_laptop (n=dlynes@S01060016b6c052ee.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 20:33.26 | charles___ | brif8: if you have the ip TCPDUMP it :P |
| 20:33.51 | *** join/#asterisk chorlick (n=chorlick@gateway.digium.com) |
| 20:34.50 | brif8 | charles__: the phone does the TFTP and gets the SIP<macaddress>.cnf file from the asterisk server. it then registers with * and shows up in the sip show peers with the correct qualify time |
| 20:35.24 | Assid | heya |
| 20:35.28 | TheCompWiz | which means... it tells us absoultely nothing about weather it's nating correctly or not. |
| 20:35.42 | brif8 | charles___: I get "Executing Dial("SIP/legendary-99a1", "SIP/650|25|r") in new stack" |
| 20:35.44 | Assid | tkd, i think they are pickinng up that card.. hopefully soon.. |
| 20:35.48 | brif8 | Called 650 |
| 20:35.59 | brif8 | Got SIP response 484 "Address Incomplete" back from <<phones.ip> |
| 20:36.22 | TheCompWiz | why is that phone's extension # "legendary"? |
| 20:36.49 | Assid | its a legendary device ;) |
| 20:36.49 | *** join/#asterisk adorah (n=Administ@87.68.173.125.cable.012.net.il) |
| 20:36.53 | Assid | god made it |
| 20:37.02 | TheCompWiz | but that's not an extension # |
| 20:37.12 | Assid | well |
| 20:37.21 | Assid | you always call a sip device.. not a sip extension |
| 20:37.43 | TheCompWiz | not sure you can do that tho. |
| 20:37.48 | Assid | that is.. if your sip context is [blah] user=222222 .. then i would be calling SIP/blah |
| 20:38.00 | eKo1 | Assid: actually, you call a sip ua, not a sip device |
| 20:38.02 | TheCompWiz | I guess. |
| 20:38.34 | TheCompWiz | anyhow... this sounds more like a nat issue. |
| 20:38.56 | eKo1 | TheCompWiz: You like blaming stuff on nat don't you. |
| 20:39.06 | TheCompWiz | well... sip is known for nat issues ;) |
| 20:39.15 | TheCompWiz | that's why IAX is sooo much better. |
| 20:39.16 | chorlick | The clubbing seals |
| 20:39.17 | Assid | nat rocks :P |
| 20:41.40 | trelane_ | Assid, no it just completed Halo on the hardest difficulty and is thus Legendary. |
| 20:41.50 | charles___ | brif8: so you got it registered |
| 20:41.58 | brif8 | charles__: yes |
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| 20:42.04 | charles___ | brif8: what do you get after dialing ? |
| 20:42.12 | Assid | people still play halo? |
| 20:42.17 | Seba_soy | hello guys.. |
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| 20:42.37 | TheCompWiz | brif8 .... where is the phone in relation to the pbx box? firewall/router in the middle? |
| 20:43.00 | brif8 | charles___: if the phone dials another valid extension (1) nothing shows in asterisk (2) I get a busy signal. If I try to dial the phone. then I get the messages I showed just now resulting in a 484 message |
| 20:43.02 | xnon | anybody can help me with my asterisk? i have some problems with a incompatible codecs |
| 20:43.21 | TheCompWiz | xnon... if you can be more specific... people can answer your question with more specifics. |
| 20:43.22 | Assid | xnon: do you ever post your question? |
| 20:43.48 | brif8 | TheCompWiz: There is a router and firewall on the pbx network, but not on the phone's network. The phone has a public IP address not a private LAN address |
| 20:43.52 | xnon | ok so sorry here we go! |
| 20:44.13 | brif8 | the router and firewall on the PBX network has the SIP ad RTP and TFTP ports open and forwarding to the asterisk server. |
| 20:44.34 | xnon | i have a ALL7950 afilied to adamvozip.es service SIP channels |
| 20:44.39 | TheCompWiz | brif8... ok... is nat=yes in sip.conf & externip=x.x.x.x & such? |
| 20:44.40 | brif8 | all works well all my calls are VoIP and terminate with a VoIP provider so I know the PBX side is fine |
| 20:44.40 | TheCompWiz | I'm sorry xnon... you've used up your 1 credit of "permitted questions" .... please try again later. |
| 20:45.07 | xnon | in my asterisk central phone agree an other sip number from this ISP provider |
| 20:45.10 | houdini | Anybody here installed any big * setups? Trying to figure out what kind of horsepower I'm going to need to run 100-200 SIP Only calls? |
| 20:45.19 | TheCompWiz | brif8... is ports 10k-20k forewarded to the pbx box? |
| 20:45.23 | brif8 | TheCompWiz: no the firewall directs all 5060 traffic to the asterisk server and nat=no. |
| 20:45.27 | brif8 | yes |
| 20:45.38 | TheCompWiz | you need nat=yes |
| 20:45.47 | TheCompWiz | and externip=your public IP |
| 20:45.57 | *** join/#asterisk riddlebox (n=james@24-171-10-102.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 20:46.07 | xnon | but when i call from ALL7050 to Softphone in a extension in my central asterisk |
| 20:46.10 | _4d4m_ | houdini: i run a few systems with that kind of userbase |
| 20:46.11 | TheCompWiz | and localnet=x.x.x.x/x.x.x.x (local ip block & mask) |
| 20:46.16 | Assid | TheCompWiz speaks the truth |
| 20:46.16 | TheCompWiz | I'm sorry xnon... you've used up your 1 credit of "permitted questions" .... please try again later. |
| 20:46.16 | xnon | my asterisk console say error |
| 20:46.32 | *** join/#asterisk Dr^ZigMan (n=root@69.60.122.171) |
| 20:46.55 | Assid | is it me or "in my asterisk central phone agree an other sip number from this ISP provider" did not make much sense? |
| 20:47.17 | eKo1 | hahaha |
| 20:47.19 | _4d4m_ | houdini: I typically implement a proxy in front of * running as a b2bua |
| 20:47.22 | TheCompWiz | um..... maybe in another language... it would make perfect sense. |
| 20:47.33 | brif8 | TheCompWiz: when I set nat=yes and extenip then no calls are made through the VoIP provider and I receive no calls either |
| 20:47.44 | xnon | sorry friends my english is not so good |
| 20:47.47 | xnon | :( |
| 20:47.47 | TheCompWiz | brif8 did you set localnet=? |
| 20:48.07 | eKo1 | _4d4m_: I simple workstation will be able to handle that. |
| 20:48.10 | charles___ | brif8: try dialing from the phone and tcpdump |
| 20:48.17 | eKo1 | err, houdini I mean |
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| 20:48.55 | TheCompWiz | xnon... what language DO you speak? |
| 20:48.56 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=joe@64.235.216.2) |
| 20:49.06 | xnon | spanish |
| 20:49.13 | TheCompWiz | can't help there... sorry. |
| 20:49.15 | xnon | my from is venezuela |
| 20:49.16 | brif8 | TheCompWiz: nat=yes localnet and externip when I set those I get no calls via VoIP proivder without them and all traffic forwarded to the asterisk server it all works fine. I'll d/l tcpdump and check what it says |
| 20:49.38 | Assid | brif8: did you sip reload? |
| 20:49.45 | brif8 | yes |
| 20:50.26 | TheCompWiz | brif8 ... compoundsentancesmakeasmuchassenseasthisstatementrightherepleasetrytousesomepuncutation. |
| 20:50.41 | brif8 | sorry |
| 20:50.48 | TheCompWiz | so... what were you saying? |
| 20:51.06 | Assid | i was saying i need $2mil. |
| 20:51.53 | kopfski | hey all, can asterisk load balance outgoing calls? i know it can incoming via the "queue"... |
| 20:51.58 | TheCompWiz | Assid... if you donate $20,000,000.00 to my "I need a vacation" fund... I'll be happy to give $2mil to you. |
| 20:52.14 | Assid | tell you what |
| 20:52.22 | brif8 | TheCompWiz: when I set nat=yes , localnet=192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 and externip=<my public ip> Then no connection is able to be made between my and Teliax my VoIP terminator. Nor can I receive calls. When I set the firewall to forward all traffic direct to the asterisk server and Do NOT set these variables, then I can make calls via the provider. |
| 20:52.35 | Assid | i give you 20,000,000.00 in my currency.. you give me in USD |
| 20:52.40 | AndyCap | I think you have to be a little more sophisticated in your advance fee frauds than that. |
| 20:53.00 | TheCompWiz | brif8... is your asterisk box in a DMZ? |
| 20:53.22 | TheCompWiz | Assid... um.... depends on the currency ;) |
| 20:53.24 | _4d4m_ | kopfski: what kind of outbound calls? |
| 20:53.36 | Assid | brif8: put in those settings and forward the traffic!!!!! |
| 20:53.55 | TheCompWiz | is your asterisk box using a local IP? or public IP? |
| 20:53.58 | *** part/#asterisk Dr^ZigMan (n=root@69.60.122.171) |
| 20:54.02 | Assid | TheCompWiz: will INR do ? or can i give you in yen ? |
| 20:54.07 | kopfski | 4d4m: sorry, SIP., im trying to build a reminder system (like the email/sms ones) but by phone |
| 20:54.09 | brif8 | TheCompWiz: no the asterisk box is not in a DMZ. |
| 20:54.10 | *** part/#asterisk xnon (i=xnon@200.82.222.64) |
| 20:54.27 | riddlebox | man broadvoice sends me a sipura 2100, I was all excited I could have two seperate extensions, but no, they block the second line from being used unless you have another account with them |
| 20:54.36 | TheCompWiz | and... is the public IP you set your pbx box the same as the outbound route? |
| 20:54.40 | brif8 | Assid: no when I set those settings and do not forward I get nothing. If I do NOT set those settings and forward traffic I get calls |
| 20:55.05 | Assid | SET THOSE SETTINGS AND FORWARD DAMMIT~!!!! |
| 20:55.08 | brif8 | TheCompWiz: yes |
| 20:55.17 | brif8 | assid: ok I'll try that |
| 20:55.18 | Assid | whose asking you to remove those settings.. you need those settings |
| 20:55.38 | Assid | else.. DMZ it.. and keep those settings.. you need those settings.. they are the lifeline of your sip box |
| 20:55.49 | TheCompWiz | so... if you (from your asterisk box) visit www.whatismyip.com it is the same as what you put in the externip= ... and also the same as what the firewall is forwarding... |
| 20:56.06 | Seba_soy | guys, can i set callerid on an agent logged in?, suppose an agent logs in, then I make a call and transfer that call to Queue, then queue put the call on a free agent, I want this agent can see the number it is transfered... |
| 20:56.09 | brif8 | Assid: when I added those settings in the past I lost all VoIP connectivity that is why I dropped them and have been working fine up until this new twist where I need a remote Phone |
| 20:56.15 | _4d4m_ | kopfski: i'd handle that in the dialplan (maybe using database), if i undertstand your requirement correctly |
| 20:56.18 | Assid | TheCompWiz: read what hes saying bro.. hes removing the portforwarding when hes putting in the sip settings |
| 20:56.22 | TheCompWiz | brif8 humor us. |
| 20:56.37 | TheCompWiz | you still need the port forwarding. |
| 20:56.47 | Assid | brif8: READ WHAT IM WRITING.. add the settings.. add the port forwarding.. |
| 20:57.14 | brif8 | right got that from Assid: just now. I'm going to readd the settings and keep the port fowarding. |
| 20:57.14 | kopfski | 4d4m: well my problem is, at some point my * server may be too many concurrent reminder calls in progress... is it possible to add a second * server like pooling/clustering? |
| 20:57.23 | *** join/#asterisk LoneShadow (n=duh@59.92.131.157) |
| 20:57.24 | Assid | right when you do that.. sip reload.. and you should be working |
| 20:57.49 | Assid | ~cluster |
| 20:58.01 | Assid | no bot definition for * clustering? |
| 20:58.10 | TheCompWiz | guess not. |
| 20:58.12 | TheCompWiz | ? clustering |
| 20:58.18 | TheCompWiz | hm... |
| 20:58.36 | TheCompWiz | Assid... do you have a cluster of * boxes? |
| 20:58.43 | brif8 | give me a sec. to log in and finish a call that has just come in. I'll add the settings and run rip reload |
| 20:58.50 | Assid | TheCompWiz: nah.. |
| 20:59.02 | TheCompWiz | k. just curious. looking for brains to pick. |
| 20:59.02 | _4d4m_ | kopfski: sure theres a number of alternatives. use a proxy to distribute requests across multiple * boxes (e.g. SER), use vovida's load balancer, use DNS |
| 20:59.36 | Assid | i wouldnt mind learning how to do it tho |
| 20:59.43 | TheCompWiz | you & me both ;) |
| 21:00.06 | Assid | i was reading about it long ago.. but dont remember it offhand |
| 21:00.33 | Assid | the simplest way is to load balance it out with more boxes.. and make something like DUNDi or something to route your traffic |
| 21:00.55 | Assid | maybe keep a proxy for passthrough |
| 21:01.24 | Assid | yeah the vovida sip load balancer.. thats the one.. _4d4m_ is right |
| 21:01.38 | kopfski | 4d4m: ok cool ill check it out |
| 21:02.19 | _4d4m_ | kopfski: just shout if you have any Q's.. have used all of the ones suggested so far to some extent and will help if i can |
| 21:03.20 | *** join/#asterisk EyeCue (n=eyecue@unaffiliated/eyecue) |
| 21:04.06 | Assid | _4d4m_: so what do you do.. keep a proxy.. and other boxes running asterisk.. have the sip users register with the proxy.. and forward the traffic to the asterisk boxes using roundrobin dns? |
| 21:04.08 | TheCompWiz | brif8... still with us? |
| 21:04.39 | *** join/#asterisk DarKnesS_WolF (n=wolf@196.218.72.144) |
| 21:05.09 | brif8 | TheCompWiz: just finishing a phone call |
| 21:05.11 | *** join/#asterisk DarKnesS_WolF (n=wolf@196.218.72.144) |
| 21:05.32 | Assid | i wanna play with some calls |
| 21:05.36 | Assid | who do i call |
| 21:05.40 | Assid | i got sooo many minutes |
| 21:06.53 | kopfski | yeah i was wondering the same, so i have app servers pushing calls to the vovida proxy box which forwards to available asterisk servers which are placing the calls to my SIP provider? |
| 21:06.56 | _4d4m_ | Assid: my largest set up uses replicating OpenSER proxies, that distribute load across multiple * b2bua's, that all run realtime connecting to a central MySQL cluster |
| 21:07.09 | *** join/#asterisk Ryushin (i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) |
| 21:07.09 | dlynes_laptop | Assid: call your gf in Japan |
| 21:07.20 | Assid | no gf in japan :'( |
| 21:07.24 | eKo1 | _4d4m_: sweet |
| 21:07.28 | Assid | i want a gf there |
| 21:07.32 | eKo1 | hehe |
| 21:07.37 | Assid | _4d4m_: nice.. nice! |
| 21:07.52 | Assid | how much punishment does that thing take? |
| 21:08.27 | Assid | i need to learn openser |
| 21:08.59 | dlynes_laptop | Assid: sounds like you need to learn japanese, too |
| 21:09.31 | _4d4m_ | Assid: havnet even bothered to check. need more oomph in signalling/registration? wheel in another proxy. need more mediaproxy capability? wheel in another * server. plug it in and off it goes. |
| 21:09.38 | Assid | thats okay.. i will speak the international language of love.... |
| 21:10.00 | Assid | i want a setup like that :P |
| 21:10.05 | _4d4m_ | we are still running the original setup that includes 2 proxies and 4 * b2bua's |
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| 21:14.56 | Assid | _4d4m_: okay just curious.. suppose you cant use canreinvite for the sip clients.. and 1 sip user calls the other.. where does the load lie? openser / * ? |
| 21:16.23 | _4d4m_ | Assid: on that particular setup (and in general where we are responsible for accounting), we do not allow re-INVITE's |
| 21:16.37 | _4d4m_ | all media streams go via the * servers |
| 21:16.59 | _4d4m_ | and we use FastAGI to handle the accounting and other functionality |
| 21:18.09 | houdini | 4d4m: Do you recommend having all mySQL transactions handled on a seperate server? |
| 21:18.17 | _4d4m_ | we have some subsets of users that use a separate rtpproxy server |
| 21:18.30 | houdini | I am looking to setup a box that might handle at max 200-300 SIP connections |
| 21:18.39 | houdini | with accounting |
| 21:18.39 | _4d4m_ | namely some wierd-ass video phones that run a proprietary H264 implementation |
| 21:19.00 | Assid | hmm |
| 21:19.47 | _4d4m_ | Assid: all signalling, authentication, and registration is handled by the ser proxies.. nothing more |
| 21:20.07 | _4d4m_ | houdini: you should be fine with a local db.. problem arrives if you need to scale |
| 21:20.31 | houdini | 4d4m: Yeah.. that is the plan eventually. |
| 21:20.36 | _4d4m_ | and also depends on your system.. amount of db access etc. |
| 21:20.37 | houdini | To scale that is. |
| 21:21.05 | TheCompWiz | well brif8 I'm goin' home... g'nite |
| 21:21.11 | TheCompWiz | to all a good night. |
| 21:21.45 | Assid | hrmm |
| 21:21.50 | Assid | okie.. |
| 21:21.51 | houdini | 4d4m: What kind of CPU would you recommend to run that kind of load... I've been looking at different options for days, but even the "Dimenioning" article in the Wiki is all over the chart. |
| 21:22.14 | Assid | i think i better hit the sack.. its almost 3 am here |
| 21:22.50 | E-bola | houdini: i'd say any new server can handle that without causing any load at all |
| 21:22.51 | eKo1 | Assid: Are you in Asia somewhere? |
| 21:22.59 | E-bola | if its just sip there isnt really any calculations done? |
| 21:23.28 | houdini | Ebola: Well I might use IAX on one side and SIP on the other, even divided |
| 21:23.29 | eKo1 | I have a single CPU machine running well over 100 calls sometimes. |
| 21:23.36 | eKo1 | Sometimes... |
| 21:23.54 | houdini | eko1: Running RTP through it, or just re-invites? |
| 21:24.19 | eKo1 | It does everything. |
| 21:24.30 | E-bola | maybe a dumb question but why would u run rtp through ur asterisk server? |
| 21:25.15 | houdini | I mean session media... if you are going SIP to IAX or IAX to SIP... isn't that the only way? |
| 21:25.21 | Assid | eKo1: yeah india |
| 21:26.11 | E-bola | mmm maybe, i dont know anything about iax, i run a sip only enviroment |
| 21:26.35 | [TK]D-Fender | E-bola: For recording, NAT, etc... |
| 21:27.05 | E-bola | [TK]D-Fender: i understood it as all traffic going through the asterisk server |
| 21:27.13 | E-bola | and in a normal setup i cant see a reason for that |
| 21:27.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Correct. |
| 21:27.20 | E-bola | unless u wanna use it as a sort of proxy/router |
| 21:27.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Recording <- |
| 21:27.34 | E-bola | sure but thats hardly normal to record EVERYTHING |
| 21:27.35 | E-bola | hehe |
| 21:27.39 | E-bola | or well atleast not for me :) |
| 21:27.45 | houdini | Plus I think for billing purposes (if any)... you'd want to stay in the stream |
| 21:28.04 | [TK]D-Fender | E-bola : Oh so now YOU are the benchmark for NORMAL? Get off your horse before I push you! ;) |
| 21:28.44 | [TK]D-Fender | E-bola : And feel free to substiture "everything" with "ANYTHING AT ALL". |
| 21:28.44 | E-bola | Not my fault your different, aka not normal :P |
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| 21:29.52 | brif8 | TheCompWiz: are you there ? |
| 21:30.34 | Tbb | Hey Guys&Gals... Our Asterisk Expert has bailed out of our company and now we can't make outbound calls :D Msg me if you can help. Tks! |
| 21:31.41 | houdini | how big is your company? |
| 21:31.49 | Tbb | lol... under 10 users |
| 21:32.03 | houdini | haha, okay any more and I was gonna say hire somebody |
| 21:32.07 | Tbb | I could use a Houdini right about now |
| 21:32.10 | Tbb | cheers man |
| 21:32.24 | Tbb | everything else is working... its just outbound calls |
| 21:32.36 | Tbb | any Ideas on where to look? |
| 21:32.38 | houdini | haha, use a Houdini... sounds like your Asterisk Expert was the real escape artist |
| 21:32.49 | Tbb | lol |
| 21:32.55 | Tbb | pretty much |
| 21:33.08 | houdini | what si your OB... VOIP or POTS? |
| 21:33.12 | Tbb | I have the System and Asterisk console open |
| 21:33.43 | Tbb | We're using polycom SIP handsets internally and two four port POTS PCI Cards |
| 21:34.08 | houdini | what happens when you dial out... dead air or? |
| 21:34.14 | Tbb | dead air |
| 21:34.26 | houdini | was it still working *after* he left? |
| 21:34.54 | Tbb | I can call into the system go through the auto attendant and reach extensions |
| 21:35.01 | Tbb | call quality is good |
| 21:35.11 | Tbb | both ends can hear perfectly |
| 21:35.19 | Tbb | yes it was |
| 21:35.25 | Tbb | i don't suspect foul play |
| 21:35.32 | houdini | did you try rebooting? |
| 21:36.01 | Tbb | The system was having a problem this morning... all the lines were working but the static was unbearable |
| 21:36.28 | Tbb | I shut the box down (init 0) and restarted after a bit (expecting a hardware problem) |
| 21:36.53 | houdini | ugh... I dunno much about ZAP, sorry man |
| 21:37.12 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: what happens when you try to make an outbound call? |
| 21:37.16 | Tbb | it came up... told me it had found new hardware/configuration changed for the modem (we hit ignore) |
| 21:37.22 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: just dead air and after a while, hangs up? |
| 21:37.22 | Tbb | dead air |
| 21:37.26 | Tbb | yes |
| 21:37.38 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: you've got a dial plan error more than likely then |
| 21:37.44 | houdini | TBB: What happens if you try and ring your cellphoen... does your cell ring, or no response? |
| 21:37.59 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: perhaps it happened when you rebooted the machine without properly shutting down |
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| 21:38.18 | Tbb | it looks like its dialing... the logs show nothing... then it gives me a busy tone then hangs up... my cell phone does not ring |
| 21:38.36 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: set verbose 100 |
| 21:38.52 | Tbb | verbose set |
| 21:38.55 | Tbb | dialing again |
| 21:39.00 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: and make sure you have the line "full => debug,notice,warning,error,dtmf" in your logger.conf |
| 21:39.05 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: then do a logger reload |
| 21:39.11 | Tbb | checking |
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| 21:39.18 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: and then make the call, and then check /var/log/asterisk/full after the call |
| 21:40.02 | Tbb | done... logger restarted |
| 21:40.13 | Tbb | dialing again |
| 21:40.27 | Tbb | not seeing any thing showing up in the console |
| 21:40.34 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: you probably won't |
| 21:40.39 | *** join/#asterisk danalien (n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien) |
| 21:40.40 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: but you will see something in your log |
| 21:40.43 | Tbb | do I need to tail a logfile to see it? |
| 21:40.47 | Tbb | ah |
| 21:40.54 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: /var/log/asterisk/full |
| 21:41.11 | Tbb | got it |
| 21:41.22 | dlynes_laptop | any errors? |
| 21:41.35 | Tbb | Aug 9 17:41:01 DEBUG[9767] chan_sip.c: Stopping retransmission on '6b24e76b4a407ed80e8cecb73ecf8291@172.16.99.253' of Request 102: Match Found |
| 21:41.36 | Tbb | Aug 9 17:41:13 DEBUG[9767] chan_sip.c: Stopping retransmission on '05f59cde361b331e599828c41d37c233@172.16.99.253' of Request 102: Match Found |
| 21:41.42 | Tbb | couple of those |
| 21:41.42 | dlynes_laptop | those aren't errors |
| 21:41.49 | Tbb | thats all I see |
| 21:41.51 | dlynes_laptop | those are normal courses of progression |
| 21:41.58 | Tbb | ok |
| 21:42.13 | dlynes_laptop | is there anything else? |
| 21:42.19 | Tbb | just those |
| 21:42.28 | dlynes_laptop | so you've only got 'DEBUG' level messages? |
| 21:43.10 | Tbb | yes |
| 21:43.25 | Tbb | still dead air |
| 21:43.25 | dlynes_laptop | And you're in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean? |
| 21:43.42 | Tbb | is there anything that happens when the server shuts down incorrectly |
| 21:44.03 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: well, the file table can get corrupted...it's pretty rare with journalized file systems now, though |
| 21:44.04 | Tbb | I did an init 0 but what needs to be done if you experience a power loss? |
| 21:44.16 | *** join/#asterisk schuylerdigium (n=bosco@gateway.digium.com) |
| 21:44.17 | Tbb | lol |
| 21:44.19 | Tbb | yup |
| 21:44.23 | Tbb | Barbados |
| 21:44.40 | file | schuylerdigium: !!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:44.50 | schuylerdigium | *scream* |
| 21:44.52 | Tbb | I didn't see any ext3fs errors on boot |
| 21:44.54 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: but normally if you had an ext2 file system, it can get corrupted pretty easily if you just hit the power button, instead of using the halt or init 0 commands |
| 21:45.07 | roguebug|dinner | cya good night |
| 21:45.10 | Tbb | But I should see a forced fsck on boot |
| 21:45.26 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: yeah...like i said...with journalized file systems, it's pretty rare |
| 21:45.35 | dlynes_laptop | with ext2 it happened about every 5 or 6 power offs |
| 21:45.43 | roguebug|dinner | forced fsck? does that still exist? (ah, yeah, with ext3) |
| 21:45.46 | Tbb | ok can i force asterisk to test dial without sip? |
| 21:45.57 | dlynes_laptop | the whole filesystem would get trashed so bad even fsck wouldn't help |
| 21:46.24 | Tbb | seen that before... |
| 21:47.32 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: you're using digium tdm400p's or sangoma a200's? |
| 21:47.43 | Tbb | what can I check or what files would you need to see? |
| 21:47.49 | Tbb | digium |
| 21:47.59 | dlynes_laptop | try doing a zap show status |
| 21:48.15 | Tbb | spbx2*CLI> zap show status |
| 21:48.15 | Tbb | Description Alarms IRQ bpviol CRC4 |
| 21:48.15 | Tbb | Wildcard TDM400P REV I Board 1 OK 0 0 0 |
| 21:48.15 | Tbb | Wildcard TDM400P REV I Board 2 OK 0 0 0 |
| 21:48.15 | Tbb | spbx2*CLI> |
| 21:48.20 | dlynes_laptop | ok, that's good |
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| 21:50.06 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: is anyone on a zaptel channel call atm? |
| 21:50.21 | Tbb | How would I check that? |
| 21:50.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Tbb : pastebin "cat /proc/interrupts" |
| 21:50.47 | dlynes_laptop | show channels |
| 21:51.00 | Tbb | spbx2*CLI> show channels |
| 21:51.01 | Tbb | Channel Location State Application(Data) |
| 21:51.01 | Tbb | 0 active channels |
| 21:51.01 | Tbb | 0 active calls |
| 21:51.01 | Tbb | spbx2*CLI> |
| 21:51.12 | dlynes_laptop | [TK]D-Fender: he's able to accept incoming calls, just not make outgoing ones |
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| 21:51.33 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: ok, and when you do zap show channel, what does it say for the hook state? |
| 21:51.35 | dlynes_laptop | erm |
| 21:51.40 | dlynes_laptop | zap show channel 1 i mean |
| 21:52.00 | Tbb | spbx2*CLI> zap show channel 1 |
| 21:52.00 | Tbb | Channel: 1 |
| 21:52.00 | Tbb | File Descriptor: 12 |
| 21:52.00 | Tbb | Span: 1LI> |
| 21:52.00 | Tbb | Extension: |
| 21:52.01 | Tbb | Dialing: no |
| 21:52.03 | Tbb | Context: incoming |
| 21:52.05 | Tbb | Caller ID: |
| 21:52.07 | file | eep? |
| 21:52.07 | Tbb | Calling TON: 0 |
| 21:52.08 | dlynes_laptop | ummmm |
| 21:52.09 | Tbb | Caller ID name: |
| 21:52.11 | Tbb | Destroy: 0 |
| 21:52.12 | dlynes_laptop | ~pb |
| 21:52.14 | jbot | rumour has it, pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca/, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com/, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/, or for images use http://imageshack.us/, or http://www.paste-it.net/ |
| 21:52.14 | Tbb | InAlarm: 0 |
| 21:52.15 | Tbb | Signalling Type: FXS Kewlstart |
| 21:52.17 | yatesy | stop spamming :/ |
| 21:52.17 | Tbb | Radio: 0 |
| 21:52.19 | Tbb | Owner: <None> |
| 21:52.21 | Tbb | Real: <None> |
| 21:52.23 | Tbb | Callwait: <None> |
| 21:52.25 | Tbb | Threeway: <None> |
| 21:52.27 | Tbb | Confno: -1 |
| 21:52.29 | Tbb | Propagated Conference: -1 |
| 21:52.31 | Tbb | Real in conference: 0 |
| 21:52.33 | Tbb | DSP: no |
| 21:52.35 | Tbb | Relax DTMF: no |
| 21:52.37 | Tbb | Dialing/CallwaitCAS: 0/0 |
| 21:52.39 | Tbb | Default law: ulaw |
| 21:52.41 | Tbb | Fax Handled: no |
| 21:52.43 | Tbb | Pulse phone: no |
| 21:52.45 | Tbb | Echo Cancellation: 128 taps unless TDM bridged, currently OFF |
| 21:52.47 | Tbb | Actual Confinfo: Num/0, Mode/0x0000 |
| 21:52.49 | Tbb | Actual Confmute: No |
| 21:52.50 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: I didn't ask for the whole zap show channel; I only asked for the hook state |
| 21:52.51 | Tbb | Hookstate (FXS only): Offhook |
| 21:52.53 | Tbb | sry |
| 21:52.59 | Tbb | sry... offhook |
| 21:53.27 | yatesy | learn to use a pastebin next time! |
| 21:53.37 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: yeah, I don't see anything for the hardware for why outbound wouldn't work |
| 21:53.49 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: what's your dial command to grab an outside line? |
| 21:53.53 | [hC] | any sangoma a200 fxo users around? |
| 21:53.56 | [hC] | dlynes, you use em dontcha? |
| 21:53.59 | dlynes_laptop | [hC]: yep |
| 21:54.03 | dlynes_laptop | [hC]: so does [TK]D-Fender |
| 21:54.07 | dlynes_laptop | [hC]: we're both here |
| 21:54.13 | [hC] | dlynes_laptop: what do you use to tune the lines? for gains, echo can, etc? |
| 21:54.28 | [hC] | I wanna make sure im doing it right |
| 21:54.31 | dlynes_laptop | [hC]: Echocan doesn't need to be tuned |
| 21:54.33 | [hC] | I worry that I'm not. |
| 21:54.36 | Tbb | How do I find the command to grab an outside line? |
| 21:54.53 | dlynes_laptop | [hC]: I just fiddle with it, until everything's working right |
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| 21:54.56 | [hC] | would you mind pastebinning a zapata.conf from an a200 install? |
| 21:55.02 | dlynes_laptop | [hC]: I don't know any other way |
| 21:55.03 | Rawplayer | is there a module to manage users with usage of mysql php? |
| 21:55.17 | Rawplayer | to build a php frontend |
| 21:55.27 | [hC] | ah. ive been using milliwatt test tone and trying to match the levels correctly |
| 21:55.34 | [hC] | to what they should be |
| 21:55.36 | dlynes_laptop | Tbb: cat /etc/asterisk/extensions.conf | grep -i dial | grep -i zap |
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| 21:56.36 | houdini | Rawplayer: #freepbx sounds like teh answer, ask them in there |
| 21:57.54 | Rawplayer | hmm |
| 21:58.02 | [hC] | dlynes_laptop: would you mind pastebin'ing a zapata.conf from an a200 install so i can compare what you ended up using? |
| 21:58.23 | dlynes_laptop | [hC]: http://pastebin.ca/124204 |
| 21:58.28 | [hC] | thanks man |
| 21:58.54 | [TK]D-Fender | [hC] : Otasic :D |
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| 21:59.38 | dlynes_laptop | [TK]D-Fender: yeah, but you still need to adjust gains for caller id and static |
| 22:00.08 | [TK]D-Fender | [hC] : Basic EC seems to work pretty well with them as well. Without gain adjustments usually. I think its the reduces interrupt load that helps it a bit. |
| 22:00.29 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes_laptop : haven't encountered that yet... silly west-coast lines! |
| 22:00.39 | dlynes_laptop | [TK]D-Fender: telus sucks |
| 22:00.41 | dlynes_laptop | 'nuff said |
| 22:00.51 | [hC] | [TK]D-Fender: ive standardized on putting hw echo can in every install i do lately, cause its super hit and miss, and people get really mad if it doesnt work right |
| 22:01.02 | dlynes_laptop | [hC]: yep..same here |
| 22:01.09 | dlynes_laptop | [hC]: i don't use non-hwec at all on analog lines |
| 22:01.21 | [hC] | I find i need to adjust gains for dtmf recognition, actual voice levels (alot of the time its too quiet), static, |
| 22:01.36 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes_laptop : I don't use non-HWEC ANYWHERE I can get away with it. |
| 22:01.46 | dlynes_laptop | yeah...for me, it's mostly static and caller id recogniztion |
| 22:03.44 | [hC] | I find its hard to adjust gain levels, in that... my testing right now is to call a milliwatt test line and get it as close to the milliwatt values as possible |
| 22:03.51 | [hC] | but i worry that i may be over or under gaining the lines by mistake |
| 22:04.15 | [hC] | most of them work great, but for example i do have one client with a txgain of -2.5 and if i set it to -2.9 its staticy and dtmf breaks |
| 22:04.19 | [hC] | but at -2.5 it sounds too quiet |
| 22:04.22 | [hC] | its really odd |
| 22:04.50 | dlynes_laptop | -2.9 should be quieter than -2.5 |
| 22:04.59 | [hC] | pardon me i had it backwards. |
| 22:07.29 | [hC] | i wonder if it messes with the a200 if i set echotraining=800 |
| 22:08.19 | dlynes_laptop | [hC]: echotraining doesn't do squat when you're using hwec |
| 22:09.26 | [hC] | dlynes_laptop: do you use relaxdtmf all the time on telus lines? or just this one install? |
| 22:10.13 | dlynes_laptop | [hC]: yeah...I use it all the time |
| 22:10.21 | dlynes_laptop | [hC]: it was based on a suggestion I got from ManxPower |
| 22:11.33 | [TK]D-Fender | [hC] : So like ... yeah dude *chill* |
| 22:12.04 | [hC] | Haha |
| 22:12.14 | [TK]D-Fender | stressdtmf = anal |
| 22:12.29 | [hC] | Ive just never used it before, thats all. |
| 22:12.53 | [TK]D-Fender | * begin constipated? Loosent he belt a little! |
| 22:13.02 | [TK]D-Fender | ashdfd |
| 22:13.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Can't type today |
| 22:14.09 | AlexCTI | Hi, here is someone familiar with queues? I want to set a couple message into a queue, one which says All agents are busy and other which say please press 0 if you want to leave a msg in pur general VoiceMail, so right now i can't get these message been played, i pnly get the queue position.. |
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| 22:17.09 | ManxPower | For all you old time telephone geeks: http://www.surplussales.com/communications/Phones.html |
| 22:17.51 | ManxPower | this place sells actual rotary phones |
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| 22:20.25 | [TK]D-Fender | AlexCTI : pastebin what you've done. |
| 22:20.27 | eKo1 | Are they all pulse? |
| 22:20.59 | r_evolution | rotary phones? |
| 22:21.02 | r_evolution | TIN CAN ON A STRING~! |
| 22:21.04 | r_evolution | :) |
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| 22:24.53 | chiardon | Hello All |
| 22:36.09 | Tbb | Hey guys. I am making a call and seeing this in the log: http://pastebin.ca/124243 any ideas? |
| 22:36.09 | quid246 | Manx: One of these days I'm going to buy one of the old WE's.. aka "The Private Eye" phone |
| 22:36.58 | quid246 | those prices are insane though |
| 22:38.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Tbb : You don't seem to have a username in there and I don't see the initial invite.... |
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| 22:40.38 | chiardon | Hello. I'm trying to get astman working, however I cant see a thing in there. I log in and it tells me ther eis no activity, yet when I log in to the manager via telnet I CAN see the events |
| 22:40.38 | Nugget | telnet is eeeeeeevil! |
| 22:40.59 | chiardon | Nugget -> Of course it is! Thats why it works! |
| 22:41.42 | hads | chiardon: It's an evil auto-response. |
| 22:41.56 | chiardon | hads --> Thats even more evil |
| 22:42.06 | chiardon | Nugget is eviler than telnet :P |
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| 22:43.02 | wwalker | what is the pattern to pick up a call that's ringing elsewhere? * 8 ? |
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| 22:44.42 | Nugget | am not! |
| 22:45.25 | chiardon | If that was an autoresponse then its the most evilest thing there ever could exist |
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| 22:55.19 | darkgamer20 | ok I got my X100P card to fit into my computer, now can someone point me to a asterisk on slackware install guide? |
| 22:56.14 | [TK]D-Fender | darkgamer20 : jsut follow the instructions on asterisk.org on compiling and everything typically "just works" |
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| 22:56.59 | rg1_ | Can someone help me with the syntax of an "If(xxx)" in a dialplan? |
| 22:57.38 | rg1_ | What I want to do is check for the value of a variable and depneind on the true/false condition, perform a Set() |
| 22:57.50 | rg1_ | Here's kind of what I have started: |
| 22:57.50 | rg1_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.11 | rg1_ | does that look right? |
| 22:58.12 | Qwell | if isn't an application |
| 22:58.20 | Qwell | IF is a function |
| 22:59.01 | ManxPower | I doubt you want quotes around the numbers |
| 22:59.04 | darkgamer20 | [TK]D-Fender: oh ok, thanks! |
| 22:59.27 | Qwell | So, Set(${IF($[${BLAH} < ${OTHERBLAH}]?abc:def)}) |
| 22:59.42 | Qwell | oh, no |
| 22:59.46 | wwalker | what is the pattern to pick up a call that's ringing elsewhere? * 8 ? |
| 22:59.47 | Qwell | Set(somevar=${IF($[${BLAH} < ${OTHERBLAH}]?abc:def)}) |
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| 23:04.44 | _alex_mx_ | wwalker, assuming you are running 1.2.x it is whaterver you defined in features.conf, but default is *8 yes |
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| 23:08.10 | sumasuma | can i use dbget dbput with mysql ? |
| 23:08.33 | eKo1 | Yes. |
| 23:08.49 | eKo1 | Through ODBC though. |
| 23:08.57 | sumasuma | oh |
| 23:09.12 | sumasuma | any module to interface mysql directly ? |
| 23:09.27 | Z_God | is there a way to give the capi channel a specified called id (such as a SIP number)? |
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| 23:11.40 | wwalker | _alex_mx_: thx |
| 23:13.04 | rg1_ | Qwell - thank you |
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| 23:22.29 | Flauto | hi guys |
| 23:22.56 | Flauto | where are the database files stored? |
| 23:23.04 | Flauto | would anyone tell me |
| 23:24.46 | sumasuma | you mean DBget and DBPut ? |
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| 23:25.24 | rushowr | hey gents |
| 23:25.50 | r_evolution | pip pip cheerio! |
| 23:26.12 | rushowr | I've got an extremely weird occurrence with Dial and the CLI verbosity level. the 'g' option will NOT continue execution after hangup unless verbosity is set to 3 or higher |
| 23:26.19 | rushowr | anyone get that one recently? |
| 23:26.23 | rushowr | current HEAD |
| 23:26.36 | Flauto | sumasuma |
| 23:26.42 | rushowr | I swear to god, it's freakin' weird |
| 23:26.50 | Flauto | yes, sumasuma |
| 23:27.02 | rushowr | sumasuma ? |
| 23:27.13 | rushowr | oh, nmind |
| 23:27.15 | rushowr | my bad |
| 23:27.26 | ManxPower | rushowr, I've found that g wn't work unless the FAR side hangs up. |
| 23:27.33 | rushowr | yeah, that's the plan |
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| 23:27.43 | rushowr | cuz near side is handled by 'h' |
| 23:27.48 | rushowr | but it doesn't :) |
| 23:28.07 | rushowr | unless I've got the *CLI verbosity set to 3 |
| 23:28.11 | rushowr | seriously |
| 23:28.29 | rushowr | I think maybe I have a gremlin trying to stop this ITSP from launching anywhere near on time |
| 23:29.30 | r_evolution | I LIKE GREMLINS! |
| 23:29.41 | rushowr | heh, I do when they're not screwing me out of a job |
| 23:29.43 | rushowr | ;-) |
| 23:29.52 | rushowr | 6 figures about to go down the drain |
| 23:30.01 | sumasuma | Flauto: database is DB1 |
| 23:30.28 | Flauto | where is it located? |
| 23:30.38 | rushowr | heh, benjk was actually helpful before, but he's just logged out...damn |
| 23:31.42 | Nugget | he probably left for work. |
| 23:32.02 | rushowr | I'm actually in the process of duplicating it so I can report a bug |
| 23:32.28 | rushowr | what's weird is you'd think that for Dial to be affected by verbosity level, you'd have to have a HUGE bug |
| 23:32.38 | rushowr | cuz they're not very related |
| 23:32.40 | Flauto | how can i search a file on a linux computer |
| 23:32.41 | rushowr | but I could be wrong |
| 23:32.51 | rushowr | find / -iname 'searchforme' |
| 23:34.08 | Flauto | searchforme is the file name? |
| 23:34.18 | Flauto | thanks |
| 23:34.22 | rushowr | yes or at least partial (wildcard ok) |
| 23:34.34 | rushowr | also, try entering 'man find' |
| 23:34.39 | rushowr | for more indepth info |
| 23:35.55 | hoytbowUE | Can anyone please tell me how to get the mysql cdr support going in 1.2.x, I have downloaded latest tarball for asterisk-addons and latest trunk svn and when I compile res_config_mysql.so is not there... Mysql-server 4.1.11 and the dev pkg are installed |
| 23:36.31 | rushowr | did you select it from menuselect? |
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| 23:37.43 | justinu|laptop | r_evolution: boo! |
| 23:37.52 | rushowr | •hoytbowUE• ./configure && make menuselect |
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| 23:40.25 | chiardon | ANybody here uses Flash Operator Panel? |
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| 23:44.50 | TommyTheKid | Hello all, had a crash today trying to do a large-ish (75 people) MeetMe conference.. it segfaulted.. |
| 23:45.14 | TommyTheKid | It looks like app_meetme.c:770 tried to free a channel that was maybe already freed cause it was a null pointer |
| 23:45.50 | TommyTheKid | er, the function around :770 |
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| 23:49.57 | TommyTheKid | ping? (never seen this channel this quiet) |
| 23:50.11 | chiardon | pong |
| 23:50.16 | macTijn | it's night in europe, mostly europeans here :) |
| 23:50.24 | chiardon | (well its been like that a while) |
| 23:53.32 | TommyTheKid | ah |
| 23:54.35 | TommyTheKid | man, debugging the output would be a lot easier if MeetMe would put something about the channel it was "playing conf-getpin" like messages to |
| 23:55.50 | quid246 | Tommy: I once read something on the wiki about one misconfiged softphone bringing down a conference |
| 23:57.31 | TommyTheKid | so, after this crash, we re-started and actually had 77 people in a MeetMe conference, mostly via PRI lines on a single CPU 1.8GHz Opteron.. but it was noticibly poor sound quality (according to the participants) |
| 23:58.34 | quid246 | Out oc curiousity... what kind of conference ws this for 77 people? |
