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`00:01.05`	`blitzrage`	`whats the .1 in the latest release? and why am I such a nub who can't seem to find a changelog?`
`00:01.17`	`DrukenHME`	`looks like i'll probably end up going with bell for my pri... icky...`
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`00:01.50`	`quid246`	`h3x: I think it was Callnet`
`00:01.50`	`blitzrage`	`aha... there's the changelog, assumed it would have been in CAPS`
`00:02.00`	`DrukenHME`	`blitzrage: cause your you?.... and you probably did what i did, didn't try to fix what wasen't broken...`
`00:02.17`	`Egonis`	`I am getting the message 'Registration from <localip goes here> failed for <localip goes here> - Not a local SIP domain -- what is this? my configs never changed, and all of a sudden all SIP phones went down`
`00:02.28`	`h3x`	`yeah thats it`
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`00:03.32`	`DrukenHME`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:03.36`	`DrukenHME`	`how sexy....`
`00:04.10`	`blitzrage`	`DrukenHME: huh? that didn't really make any sense`
`00:04.56`	`DrukenHME`	`blitzrage: you probably didn't try to fix what wasen't broken, so ya didn't keep to the current releases, and got lost when ya finally made an upgrade`
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`00:05.34`	`Ryushin`	`Is there any documentation anywhere to setup up the attendant console for the polycom 601?`
`00:09.30`	`blitzrage`	`DrukenHME: I didn't upgrade yet -- I just noticed 1.2.12.1 was out, so was wondering what the .1 was, which I found in the ChangeLog`
`00:11.52`	`DrukenHME`	`ahh...`
`00:11.57`	`DrukenHME`	`and what was it?`
`00:12.05`	`niter3`	`is there a way to pass inbound IAX calls to a SIP client?`
`00:12.21`	`DrukenHME`	`niter3: yeah, dial the sip phone....`
`00:12.55`	`niter3`	`how do I do that?? I have the register => ........ in my iax.conf`
`00:13.27`	`niter3`	`so do I do like register => user:pass@iaxtel.com/SIP/extension?`
`00:13.37`	`DrukenHME`	`no....`
`00:13.57`	`DrukenHME`	`the register line is so that iaxtel knows where your server is, so it can send your server calls`
`00:15.03`	`DrukenHME`	`what happens to the call from then on, is your servers problem, (this is where the dialplan comes into play)`
`00:15.47`	`niter3`	`so in my extensions`
`00:15.48`	`niter3`	`?`
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`00:15.59`	`niter3`	`because my client is connected to my * box as a sip client`
`00:16.37`	`DrukenHME`	`yes, in your extensions.conf`
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`00:16.55`	`DrukenHME`	`niter3: perhaps you need to read some more on how asterisk handles calls`
`00:17.02`	`DrukenHME`	`~docs`
`00:17.04`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com, or http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html`
`00:17.30`	`teleweb`	`Hi, I read that a beta of Asterisk 1.4 would have been released by now, but I guess it didn't happen?`
`00:17.31`	`niter3`	`well i have it so it passes calls out to IAXtel but to receive them I'm still trying to figure that out`
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`00:17.41`	`blitzrage`	`teleweb: probably sometime this week`
`00:17.58`	`tzanger`	`blitzrage: did you see the asterisk appliance`
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`00:18.00`	`DEader`	`hello`
`00:18.07`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: which one of the 100s?`
`00:18.09`	`teleweb`	`ah, I'm looking forward to it`
`00:18.11`	`tzanger`	`no`
`00:18.14`	`tzanger`	`the one by digium`
`00:18.16`	`teleweb`	`the asterisk appliance looks cool`
`00:18.18`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: oh, nope`
`00:18.18`	`DEader`	`can someone tell me the max amount of client asterisk supports`
`00:18.26`	`benjk`	`42`
`00:18.29`	`teleweb`	`but does anyone know how much it will cost?`
`00:18.29`	`blitzrage`	`DEader: nope -- many factors`
`00:18.42`	`benjk`	`I'm tellin' ya its 42`
`00:18.46`	`tzanger`	`http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/aadk.php`
`00:18.47`	`r_evolution`	`ugh swear on life gonna strangle someone`
`00:18.49`	`tzanger`	`they beat me to it`
`00:19.01`	`tzanger`	`although mine would have been prettier :-)`
`00:19.07`	`benjk`	`4*10+2 then`
`00:19.12`	`teleweb`	`that developer kit costs $ 4000 !!!`
`00:19.32`	`r_evolution`	`er`
`00:19.33`	`r_evolution`	`42`
`00:19.45`	`blitzrage`	`oh, so thats the thing Mark was playing with`
`00:19.47`	`DEader`	`can someone tell me the max amount of client asterisk supports`
`00:19.59`	`tzanger`	`yep`
`00:20.04`	`CtRiX`	`teleweb, that's because asterisk mirabilia have a cost`
`00:20.10`	`blitzrage`	`DEader: not really, because it depends on a lot of factors`
`00:20.12`	`DrukenHME`	`sexy... i'd be interested in that....`
`00:20.15`	`CtRiX`	`and cables you are provided with are goldplated`
`00:20.16`	`blitzrage`	`how about 300? does that help?`
`00:20.22`	`blitzrage`	`450?`
`00:20.23`	`blitzrage`	`42!`
`00:20.27`	`teleweb`	`hehe`
`00:20.37`	`tzanger`	`I have my suspicions that Mark took the idea and ran with it; I met with him to get the specs on the TDM400 modules a couple years ago under NDA and told him all about it, including the processor and modular design`
`00:20.58`	`blitzrage`	`are you doing transcoding? what processor are you using? are you handling media or reinviting?`
`00:20.59`	`teleweb`	`well, I just hope that the appliance itself will be attractive...`
`00:21.14`	`CtRiX`	`are you using deadlocks in your config ?`
`00:21.30`	`blitzrage`	`teleweb: you can see it at that link....`
`00:21.34`	`teleweb`	`but I am afraid that it will be expensive as well...`
`00:21.39`	`teleweb`	`I meant price-wise ;-)`
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`00:22.03`	`r_evolution`	`ok... so... here's the question... anybody have an idea as to WHY the hell realtime voicemail doesn't seem to work in 1.2.12`
`00:22.19`	`r_evolution`	`almost like it's not even bothering to read the db and attempt to create the directories`
`00:22.26`	`DrukenHME`	`did realtime voicemail ever work ?`
`00:22.29`	`CtRiX`	`i don't understand why 3995 if software is free, a switch is 15 dollars, a TDM or sangoma is 300...`
`00:22.29`	`blitzrage`	`r_evolution: thats a pretty broad question...`
`00:22.36`	`CtRiX`	`a cd is 2$, cables is 10$`
`00:22.45`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: until you build one yourself you will not understand`
`00:23.03`	`CtRiX`	`tzanger, what ^`
`00:23.11`	`CtRiX`	`try to explain.`
`00:23.21`	`r_evolution`	`haha yeah i know blitz... but it's a pretty broad happening`
`00:23.22`	`tzanger`	`the BF533 or BF537 is about $20, RAM/ROM is about another $25, you have a 6-layer board minimum, all these parts and shit are not that cheap when you're talking sub-thousands quantities`
`00:23.26`	`CtRiX`	`the industrial cost to assemble a motherboard or something like tht ?`
`00:23.41`	`teleweb`	`tzanger: NO, you're wrong, Digium said it themselves that the price is not because of the hardware but because of the support you get!`
`00:23.44`	`tzanger`	`now add on to that the case, which is not necessarily cheap and if you're injection molding that'll be about $50k minimum NRE if you want your die to last`
`00:23.51`	`tzanger`	`teleweb: I'm getting to that`
`00:23.58`	`blitzrage`	`r_evolution: its because of line 362 in the channels.c file.. just change the 1 to a 0`
`00:24.04`	`r_evolution`	`basically... the realtime voicemail storage isn't working... sorta`
`00:24.18`	`tzanger`	`I'm guessing BOM cost on that thing is about $200 (just off the cuff guess based on what I'm building using similar parts, not at all asterisk related)`
`00:24.23`	`CtRiX`	`teleweb, i agree but a developement kit does not need an appliance.`
`00:24.40`	`tzanger`	`now you have Mark's time and the development team's time, layout, testing and other NRE costs`
`00:24.44`	`CtRiX`	`and a product is not madeto be build in sub thousand pieces...`
`00:24.56`	`tzanger`	`and now on top of that you have support costs to run the support department, which is a total money loss center`
`00:25.04`	`tzanger`	`and now after all of that, you want to MAKE money on the device`
`00:25.13`	`DEader`	`blitzrange`
`00:25.14`	`teleweb`	`still, the appliance itself should be cheap, otherwise it will not be sold by us ITSP's...`
`00:25.18`	`[hC]`	`hmm`
`00:25.26`	`[hC]`	`i want to buy that appliance by itself`
`00:25.30`	`[hC]`	`i wonder what the specs are`
`00:25.34`	`DEader`	`i want to do video converence`
`00:25.35`	`CtRiX`	`tzanger, that's too much anyway.`
`00:25.35`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: you have never designed hardware or enclosures before I can surmise.`
`00:25.40`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: it's not meant for you`
`00:25.42`	`DrukenHME`	`4000 is a bit much, especially if we want to MAKE money too....`
`00:25.43`	`teleweb`	`tzanger: do you have any idea of how much the appliance will cost?`
`00:25.43`	`DEader`	`over ip`
`00:25.53`	`DEader`	`and dual machines`
`00:25.56`	`[hC]`	`it seems perfect for smaller installations`
`00:25.56`	`r_evolution`	`uhhh... i dont see a channels.c file blitz`
`00:25.58`	`tzanger`	`but yes, I agree it's priced expensively... but the "compared to what" factor kicks in`
`00:25.58`	`DEader`	`dual processor`
`00:26.00`	`DEader`	`machine`
`00:26.01`	`CtRiX`	`tzanger, i did something different in small quantity scale`
`00:26.10`	`DEader`	`dedicated server`
`00:26.13`	`tzanger`	`there's also the octasic part in there`
`00:26.15`	`blitzrage`	`DEader: 1) you can't do video conferencing with asterisk`
`00:26.31`	`DEader`	`yeah you can`
`00:26.40`	`CtRiX`	`tzanger, at least you could publish something specific: processor, memory and so on`
`00:26.45`	`blitzrage`	`DEader: not multi-cam conferencing`
`00:26.51`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: I know what's in there`
`00:26.59`	`tzanger`	`it's BF533 of BF537`
`00:27.04`	`tzanger`	`the octasic echo can asic`
`00:27.07`	`blitzrage`	`DEader: just build the box, run some channels through it and see what kind of load you get`
`00:27.13`	`blitzrage`	`just like the rest of us(tm)`
`00:27.25`	`DEader`	`i did build the box already`
`00:27.40`	`DEader`	`and i'm wondering if it can handle about 100 users`
`00:27.45`	`DEader`	`do you think it can`
`00:27.49`	`blitzrage`	`probably`
`00:27.52`	`tzanger`	`your CE-compliant power supply, standard support components (supervisor, ram/rom, network switch, network MAC+PHY, all the connectors which aren't cheap)`
`00:27.56`	`CtRiX`	`tzanger, i suppose DjYUM does notwant tomake business out of that`
`00:27.57`	`tzanger`	`and the enclosure`
`00:28.02`	`blitzrage`	`as long as its not doing anything but Asterisk, and not transcoding`
`00:28.07`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: they don't have to price it to your liking`
`00:28.24`	`CtRiX`	`tzanger, i know, fortunately.`
`00:28.32`	`CtRiX`	`they would have togeve me money !`
`00:28.36`	`CtRiX`	`*give`
`00:28.42`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: ha`
`00:28.57`	`DEader`	`blitzrage what do you mean by transcoding`
`00:29.24`	`CtRiX`	`take a soekris, put a debian on it, install *, add some sangoma card`
`00:29.29`	`CtRiX`	`that's under 1k`
`00:29.36`	`teleweb`	`tzanger: I believe you that all those things are expensive, but IT DOESN'T MATTER... the appliance needs to be sold cheap`
`00:29.40`	`CtRiX`	`for 1 piece production.`
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`00:29.57`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: sure, and your time. this appliance isn't FOR you. it's for businesses who will dump $18k on a shitty-ass Norstar MICS with 1/2 the featureset`
`00:30.23`	`DEader`	`hrm`
`00:30.23`	`blitzrage`	`DEader: I mean you should go read some documentation, but transcoding means the processor has to work at changing the codec from one format to another`
`00:30.28`	`tzanger`	`that's not 1 piece production. Those sokeris parts are not sold to you based on pricing of onesie-twosie. I bet they make a run of at least a thousand pieces`
`00:30.37`	`CtRiX`	`that does not explain an expense of 4k for a shitty ass embedded *`
`00:30.37`	`tzanger`	`in order to get the pricing ANYWHERE NEAR where you're willing to buy`
`00:30.39`	`blitzrage`	`wow... bug 7683 seems pretty petty`
`00:30.52`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: again, priced where they feel they can get it, and I know they will get it`
`00:30.53`	`CtRiX`	`tzanger, you can buy just ONE`
`00:30.58`	`CtRiX`	`as well as 1k`
`00:31.02`	`DEader`	`oh`
`00:31.03`	`DEader`	`ok`
`00:31.10`	`tzanger`	`I mean we have a reseller here that sells a rackmount PC with NO TDM equipment for $18k`
`00:31.31`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: no, Sokeris buys their shit in volume, makes decent margin on it selling it to you onesie-twosie`
`00:31.32`	`DEader`	`i'm trying to get like 1000 client connected`
`00:31.34`	`DEader`	`or more`
`00:31.36`	`CtRiX`	`i know IT is plenty of clueless people allover the world :P`
`00:31.37`	`DrukenHME`	`blitzrage: in a fightin mood eh?`
`00:31.51`	`DEader`	`can you recommend me a box with hardware specs`
`00:31.51`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: so why not sell to them? Easier to do, WAY more margin... it's the smart choice`
`00:31.52`	`blitzrage`	`DrukenHME: yep, and I haven't even been drinkin'`
`00:31.53`	`CtRiX`	`tzanger, soekris produces that`
`00:32.09`	`DrukenHME`	`blitzrage: damn.... you need ceiling cat...`
`00:32.10`	`tzanger`	`those of us who can and do build our own asteirsk boxes KNOW there isn't $4k worth of stuff in there, but we are not the target market`
`00:32.25`	`teleweb`	`Look, we are an ITSP, and we are very interested in the appliance, we could even live with the one-time $4000 fee, but then the boxes themselves should be $500 MAX`
`00:32.33`	`teleweb`	`do you think that will be the case?`
`00:32.43`	`blitzrage`	`teleweb: its a first run, 50 units... price will come down`
`00:32.48`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: that was the hardest lesson I ever had to learn about manufacturing... you don't sell for anywhwere near what it costs... you sell for the maximum dollar amount you can, and just ignore the fringe markets unless there is specific profitibility there`
`00:32.56`	`CtRiX`	`teleweb, asterisk memorabilia is the added value price.`
`00:33.00`	`tzanger`	`teleweb: contact sales`
`00:33.13`	`CtRiX`	`an * t-shirt should have been added too.`
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`00:33.28`	`blitzrage`	`Cresl1n: !`
`00:33.29`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: take my embedded industrial protocol gateway.. prototype pricing is US$250 for ONE with NO case.`
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`00:33.42`	`tzanger`	`that's just parts (and that's even buying 35 4-layer boards at a time!)`
`00:34.00`	`Cresl1n`	`blitzrage: !!`
`00:34.05`	`blitzrage`	`Cresl1n: how goes?`
`00:34.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`blitzrage: ! ! !`
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`00:34.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:O`
`00:34.14`	`Cresl1n`	`ok`
`00:34.14`	`tzanger`	`now add on the ~6 hours assembly time, probably 1hr test time and the 8 months it's taken me to write the software and test it`
`00:34.15`	`teleweb`	`tzanger: do you have more info about it?`
`00:34.17`	`Cresl1n`	`I'm watching house :-)`
`00:34.19`	`blitzrage`	`[TK]D-Fender: your mom owes me $20`
`00:34.21`	`Cresl1n`	`first time`
`00:34.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`blitzrage : You don't want to meet my mom!`
`00:34.37`	`tzanger`	`however my BUDGETARY pricing for doing a run of 100 is US$130 including a case`
`00:34.44`	`blitzrage`	`[TK]D-Fender: you're probably right`
`00:34.46`	`kc5cqm`	`I'm wanting to match a few called ID numbers and play back the 'number disconnected' recording. Anyone know of a simple example that does something like that?`
`00:35.02`	`tzanger`	`and if I gave the BOM and an approved vendors list to a proper purchasing department, I bet I could hit $100 without breaking a sweat on quantity 100/a`
`00:35.19`	`tzanger`	`teleweb: no, I'm not working for digium or affiliated with them other than a customer`
`00:35.27`	`blitzrage`	`kc5cqm: exten => s/4165551212,1,Playback(disconnected) if I remember correctly`
`00:35.56`	`r_evolution`	`ok so here's a more direct description then blitz... asterisk seems to be incapable of making folders in regards to voicemail`
`00:35.57`	`teleweb`	`tzanger: and you don't have a business yourself that would be interested in selling such appliances?`
`00:35.59`	`r_evolution`	`it doesn't do it.`
`00:36.04`	`r_evolution`	`realtime or flat file`
`00:36.21`	`CtRiX`	`tzanger, that's too much if you know what's inside. I wouldn't pay 4k for locks and segfaults if i can have them downloading the source.`
`00:36.22`	`blitzrage`	`selling hardware is for suckers`
`00:36.30`	`kc5cqm`	`ah thanks blitzrage`
`00:36.34`	`kc5cqm`	`there's already a recording for it huh?`
`00:36.35`	`kc5cqm`	`;-)`
`00:36.35`	`tzanger`	`teleweb: not really; my business is developing the appliance they just released. :-)`
`00:36.40`	`blitzrage`	`CtRiX: no one is holding a gun to your head`
`00:36.47`	`kc5cqm`	`figured I'd just use monitor and call a bad number to get a recording.`
`00:36.48`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: and again, don't buy it.`
`00:36.55`	`CtRiX`	`that's what i'll do !`
`00:37.16`	`teleweb`	`I guess we'll stick with pc hardware then ;-)`
`00:37.43`	`teleweb`	`only problem is the case, do you know of some good-looking cases for a PC-PBX?`
`00:38.07`	`teleweb`	`it looks funny if you walk in with a miditower and say to the customer: hey, here's your nex pbx! :)`
`00:38.17`	`tzanger`	`teleweb: there are some mini itx cases meant to be wall-mount`
`00:38.20`	`niter3`	`hrm... seems like i keep getting a busy or congested response when calling anyone on iaxtel..`
`00:38.22`	`niter3`	`hrm.......`
`00:38.28`	`CtRiX`	`teleweb, if it works, a midi tower would be perfect.`
`00:38.37`	`DrukenHME`	`tzanger: say i want to pre-order one of those sexy units... what's the pricetage?`
`00:38.46`	`tzanger`	`DrukenHME: not sure, contact sales@`
`00:38.46`	`DrukenHME`	`s/pricetage/pricetag`
`00:38.49`	`tzanger`	`someones' saying $4k`
`00:39.05`	`CtRiX`	`3995`
`00:39.06`	`teleweb`	`it's on the digium website`
`00:39.08`	`niter3`	`I have this in my context and exten => _1700NXXXXXX,1,Dial(IAX2/user:pass@iaxtel.com/${EXTEN}@iaxtel) and register => user:password@iaxtel.com`
`00:39.09`	`CtRiX`	`that's on the site`
`00:39.11`	`DrukenHME`	`someone is saying 4k, but how reliable is that ?`
`00:39.25`	`CtRiX`	`DrkShdw, they say * is identical to ABE`
`00:39.26`	`teleweb`	`DrukenHME: again, it is on the digium site!`
`00:39.40`	`teleweb`	`it is $4000`
`00:39.42`	`CtRiX`	`if it's identical, you know the reliability`
`00:39.52`	`CtRiX`	`3995 !!!!`
`00:39.57`	`teleweb`	`lol ;)`
`00:40.02`	`teleweb`	`yeah, 3995`
`00:40.05`	`teleweb`	`contact sales ;-)`
`00:40.40`	`DrukenHME`	`i'd be interested in trying one out.. even if i just run it at home or something... hehe`
`00:41.01`	`teleweb`	`so you would pay 3995 for that? ;)`
`00:41.13`	`CtRiX`	`uh they removed the price?`
`00:41.24`	`teleweb`	`no it's there, in the PDF`
`00:41.27`	`justinu\|laptop`	`ABE is better, but identical, i thought`
`00:41.40`	`CtRiX`	`if it's identical it's not better`
`00:41.57`	`teleweb`	`ROFL`
`00:42.28`	`blitzrage`	`ABE is just Asterisk with some not-so-tested features removed and some stuff that can't be distributed due to licensing issues`
`00:42.45`	`justinu\|laptop`	`is there a feature delta?`
`00:42.45`	`teleweb`	`and a nice box!`
`00:43.05`	`blitzrage`	`justinu\|laptop: check the digium site`
`00:43.15`	`DrukenHME`	`teleweb, it all depends on how it works....`
`00:43.25`	`justinu\|laptop`	`i have checked, i don't remember being able to find out much about it at all`
`00:43.36`	`DrukenHME`	`if it works well, then yes, would rather mount that little nice looking box on the wall, then a PC`
`00:43.50`	`CtRiX`	`blitzrage, i don't think so`
`00:43.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`The first rule of ABE is you DON'T TALK ABOUT ABE!`
`00:44.01`	`justinu\|laptop`	`lol fender`
`00:44.04`	`CtRiX`	`blitzrage, do you work for DjYUM ?`
`00:44.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`The second rule of ABE is YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT ABE!`
`00:44.07`	`*** join/#asterisk dasenjo (n=dasenjo@208.195.215.43)`
`00:44.25`	`blitzrage`	`CtRiX: nope, what do you seem to think everyone works for Digium?`
`00:44.41`	`benjk`	`Digium(tm) is it not?`
`00:44.43`	`CtRiX`	`that's thr 1st time i ask for it !`
`00:44.54`	`CtRiX`	`ABE is just Asterisk with some not-so-tested features removed and some stuff that can't be distributed due to licensing issues`
`00:44.59`	`CtRiX`	`no...`
`00:45.05`	`CtRiX`	`they say it's identical`
`00:45.06`	`blitzrage`	`ok, enlighten all of us`
`00:45.18`	`CtRiX`	`and GPL cannot be distributed without sources`
`00:45.31`	`blitzrage`	`CtRiX: Asterisk is not GPL`
`00:45.33`	`CtRiX`	`and right to re-distribute if something is licensed`
`00:45.36`	`blitzrage`	`its modified`
`00:45.38`	`benjk`	`dunno about that, but its definitely Digium(tm)`
`00:45.46`	`CtRiX`	`blitzrage, i thought it's DUAL license`
`00:45.49`	`teleweb`	`hehe`
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`00:46.00`	`CtRiX`	`that means it is GPL (full gpl) and another one.`
`00:46.13`	`blitzrage`	`ABE still uses the same code base`
`00:46.15`	`teleweb`	`Stop the madness, let's all move over to #freeswitch ;-)`
`00:46.18`	`blitzrage`	`but hey, what the hell do I know`
`00:46.20`	`DEader`	`blitzrage is it posible to have 2 separate server and link them to gether so a user on server a can call a user on server b`
`00:46.28`	`blitzrage`	`DEader: yep, use DUNDi`
`00:46.32`	`CtRiX`	`teleweb, dont troll!`
`00:46.37`	`teleweb`	`haha`
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`00:47.10`	`benjk`	`its definitely DUNDI(tm) too`
`00:47.19`	`blitzrage`	`benjk: whats wrong with a trademark?`
`00:47.25`	`benjk`	`nothing`
`00:47.27`	`blitzrage`	`oh wait, its not totally free!`
`00:47.38`	`benjk`	`but its wrong to not mention the (tm)`
`00:47.42`	`blitzrage`	`heck, I think the doors to digium(tm) should be left unlocked too`
`00:47.54`	`blitzrage`	`free hardware! w0000000!!!!!!!!!!!!!One!!!!!!!!!111`
`00:48.17`	`CtRiX`	`blitzrage, do you know that with asterismk and Djyum cards`
`00:48.25`	`CtRiX`	`you also get free buggy echo cancellation ?`
`00:48.26`	`teleweb`	`nobody is asking for free hardware, just reasonably priced`
`00:48.28`	`CtRiX`	`For free!`
`00:48.34`	`blitzrage`	`CtRiX: wow! I don't use hardware`
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`00:48.45`	`benjk`	`nobody said anything against trademarks`
`00:48.48`	`CtRiX`	`well blitzrage you also get deadlocks in chan_sip !!`
`00:48.56`	`blitzrage`	`CtRiX: < $100 a port seems pretty reasonably priced to me`
`00:48.58`	`benjk`	`but you got to add the "(tm)" to it`
`00:49.03`	`tzanger`	`CtRiX: feel free to leave anytime if you're unhappy. intentionally fucking with the spelling and being a troll just goes a long way to prove you're not much more than a pizza-faced 13 year old`
`00:49.25`	`teleweb`	`no $100 a port is too much, should be $50 a port`
`00:49.30`	`CtRiX`	`tzanger, i'm a pizza face of course. What's bad is that i'm older.`
`00:49.37`	`benjk`	`otherwise you are in danger to violate the trademark policy`
`00:49.38`	`blitzrage`	`CtRiX: wow, guess thats why my multiple boxes running an ITSP aren't crashing`
`00:49.44`	`benjk`	`s/to/of`
`00:50.12`	`blitzrage`	`benjk: you have to enforce your trademark in the US or you lose it`
`00:50.18`	`CtRiX`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:50.22`	`benjk`	`that;'s why I am assisting`
`00:50.25`	`CtRiX`	`that should not be a problem.`
`00:50.42`	`benjk`	`by telling you that you must not write Digium but the proper use is Digium(tm)`
`00:50.51`	`blitzrage`	`rolls eyes`
`00:51.01`	`CtRiX`	`so i won't say that word ..`
`00:51.03`	`blitzrage`	`blitzrage(tm)`
`00:51.07`	`benjk`	`or Digium, followed by a statement, Digium is a trademark of Digium Inc`
`00:51.30`	`benjk`	`in fact Digium asks you to use Digium(R)`
`00:51.32`	`blitzrage`	`just like you say Microsoft(tm), Apple(tm), and Sun(tm)`
`00:51.43`	`benjk`	`NO you are wrong on that`
`00:51.44`	`blitzrage`	`s/(tm)/(R)/g`
`00:51.57`	`benjk`	`those companies do not have that in their trademark policies`
`00:52.07`	`Nugget`	`heh, blitzrage beat me to it.`
`00:52.28`	`CtRiX`	`the power of regexp!`
`00:52.29`	`Nugget`	`™ is only used for unregistered trademarks.`
`00:52.30`	`benjk`	`Digium(R) does however, so you must abide by it`
`00:52.32`	`Druken`	`must we have a cockfight tonight?`
`00:52.36`	`Druken`	`my god people....`
`00:52.37`	`Nugget`	`® is used for registered.`
`00:52.42`	`teleweb`	`seriously, don't you people have nothing better to do?`
`00:52.54`	`blitzrage`	`its a regular sword fight in here tonight`
`00:52.57`	`Nugget`	`Linux is poo and mysql is crap.`
`00:53.02`	`Nugget`	`there.`
`00:53.03`	`blitzrage`	`teleweb: you're not any better :)`
`00:53.03`	`Nugget`	`problem solved.`
`00:53.11`	`benjk`	`oh, I am very serious when it comes to the law, I don't want to break the law or any other legal rules`
`00:53.12`	`blitzrage`	`Nugget: thats right -- pgsql! :)`
`00:53.26`	`wunderkin`	`heh heh`
`00:53.32`	`teleweb`	`MS SQL 2005 all the way!`
`00:53.39`	`Druken`	`benjk: laws are ment to be broken, so FUCK IT!`
`00:53.54`	`CtRiX`	`Druken, not really`
`00:54.02`	`benjk`	`how dare you induce others into criminal activities`
`00:54.12`	`quid246`	`IAX isn'tr trademarked`
`00:54.17`	`Nugget`	`You mean: laws are ment to be broken, so FUCK IT!™ (* FUCK IT is a trademark of Druken. All Rights Reserved)`
`00:54.20`	`quid246`	`it was abandonedin 2004... check uspto.gov. :)`
`00:54.26`	`benjk`	`IAX is listed as an abandoned trademark by the USPTO`
`00:54.32`	`Druken`	`roflmao`
`00:54.36`	`Nugget`	`or would FUCK IT be a service mark?`
`00:54.37`	`CtRiX`	`IAX should be an rfc, cannot be trademarked`
`00:54.43`	`justinu\|laptop`	`abandoned?`
`00:54.49`	`justinu\|laptop`	`i thought they submitted an RFC`
`00:54.59`	`benjk`	`also the IAX trademark is not enforcable anyway after Mark Spencer put his name on the RFC that was submitted to the IETF`
`00:55.08`	`benjk`	`that's likely why they abandoned it`
`00:55.38`	`CtRiX`	`i'm still inthre dark: Asterisk Memorabilia (R) <--- WFT is that ?`
`00:55.54`	`Druken`	`well, i got better shit todo then read up on trademarks, so i'm out`
`00:56.21`	`CtRiX`	`s/Druken/Drunk/`
`00:56.28`	`CtRiX`	`^_^`
`00:56.37`	`benjk`	`justinu, the trademark was abandoned, not the protocol`
`00:57.37`	`benjk`	`CtRiX, no need for insults`
`00:57.52`	`blitzrage`	`welp, its been fun!`
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`00:57.59`	`niter3`	`hey guys.. Anyone here on IAXtel?`
`00:58.18`	`CtRiX`	`benjk, that was a joke`
`00:58.36`	`justinu\|laptop`	`benjk: that makes sense`
`00:58.40`	`CtRiX`	`^_^ <---- wasmeant to be a oke.`
`00:58.40`	`benjk`	`I know, but it may come across as insulting`
`00:58.54`	`justinu\|laptop`	`benjk: how dare you educate ppl`
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`01:01.24`	`teleweb`	`Asterisk 1.4 - built-in web manager interface <-- who can tell more about that?`
`01:02.46`	`benjk`	`built-in-web interface == disaster waiting to happen`
`01:03.01`	`benjk`	`and more deadlocks`
`01:05.09`	`teleweb`	`benjk: why would that be? are the digium developers so bad??? there are tons of products with a perfectly working web interface... so why wouldn't they be able to make one for asterisk? who is responsible for that?`
`01:05.11`	`X-Rob_`	`I thought just the little embedded box is using a hacked up AMP?`
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`01:05.48`	`benjk`	`teleweb are you trolling?`
`01:06.03`	`CtRiX`	`LOL!`
`01:06.22`	`quid246`	`and exploits`
`01:06.27`	`teleweb`	`OMG, Benjk, you can't possibly be serious about that!!!`
`01:06.32`	`benjk`	`precisely my point`
`01:06.46`	`justinu\|laptop`	`lol`
`01:06.58`	`teleweb`	`are you just here to fight about trademarks or can we still talk about technical stuff? :p`
`01:06.58`	`benjk`	`on the exploits that is`
`01:07.20`	`benjk`	`I was making a technical comment`
`01:07.31`	`benjk`	`I think that web interface is a disaster waiting to happen`
`01:07.34`	`CtRiX`	`teleweb, there are still undebugged locks in the known code which is tested by the community.`
`01:07.36`	`teleweb`	`no i'm still waiting for your technical explanation`
`01:07.41`	`benjk`	`as quid246 pointed out`
`01:08.00`	`benjk`	`and this likely introduces even more locking issues`
`01:08.09`	`benjk`	`more locks == less performance`
`01:08.24`	`benjk`	`especially with the kind of fine grained locking * does`
`01:08.35`	`benjk`	`Rocky Mountain locking (tm)`
`01:08.48`	`teleweb`	`so why does asterisk have so many locking issues then? it's holding back progress`
`01:09.03`	`benjk`	`because of Rocky Mountain locking`
`01:09.19`	`niter3`	`hrm... I'm trying to determine weather this is functioning or not, but I'm placing a call out over IAXtel through my asterisk box and I'm getting this FOR EVERYBODY == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1) == Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/todd-dd80' status is 'CHANUNAVAIL'`
`01:09.27`	`benjk`	`they lock the entire list of objects for a single operation on a single entry`
`01:09.45`	`teleweb`	`ok, and do you know if they are willing to change that?`
`01:10.00`	`benjk`	`it doesn't look like it`
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`01:10.16`	`dfdsagsa`	`hi\`
`01:10.22`	`dfdsagsa`	`asterisk is a dumb pbx`
`01:10.28`	`wunderkin`	`niter3, iaxtel doesn't always work`
`01:10.38`	`niter3`	`hrm.... It's every single call......`
`01:10.45`	`niter3`	`I'm just trying to determine if it's my end..`
`01:11.10`	`Nivex`	`and dfdsagsa is a dumb nick. what's your point?`
`01:11.10`	`Nivex`	`:)`
`01:11.21`	`benjk`	`I was talking to one of the Digium folks about removing pthreads and locks altogether and use coros, privately he agreed that this would be beneficial but he said that this is unlikely to find resonance there`
`01:11.47`	`CtRiX`	`niter3, what's that SIP endpoint doing in there ?`
`01:11.49`	`teleweb`	`that's unfortunate... maybe the future of asterisk isn't so certain anymore...`
`01:12.20`	`CtRiX`	`teleweb, i agree`
`01:12.32`	`benjk`	`we'll be doing coros anyway in opbx`
`01:12.36`	`niter3`	`CtRiX: I'm dialing from a sip phone`
`01:13.04`	`CtRiX`	`'SIP/todd-dd8 <---is this your sip phone ?`
`01:13.23`	`CtRiX`	`Todd... the name of the peer.`
`01:13.28`	`niter3`	`yes`
`01:13.49`	`X-Rob_`	`niter3, usually that's 'fix your DNS'`
`01:14.10`	`niter3`	`why's that?`
`01:15.52`	`hmmhesays`	`so what are you guys using for prepaid applications right now?`
`01:16.20`	`X-Rob_`	`niter3, because your DNS is broken.`
`01:16.20`	`X-Rob_`	`that's usually the problem. Read /var/log/asterisk/full`
`01:16.20`	`niter3`	`hrm.. I don't know how that's possibel.. :s`
`01:16.30`	`X-Rob_`	`that'll tell you why it's returning chanunavail`
`01:16.53`	`teleweb`	`totally different subject, but does anyone know if it would be problem to put 10 DECT base stations on the same spot?`
`01:17.39`	`teleweb`	`the Siemens C450 IP is a wireless sip phone`
`01:18.00`	`teleweb`	`I bought 3 of them`
`01:18.00`	`orlock`	`Hmm, does anybody know what format_mp3.so needs to compile?`
`01:18.45`	`benjk`	`teleweb, no problem`
`01:18.54`	`wunderkin`	`orlock, yucky, are you using 1.2?`
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`01:19.02`	`benjk`	`DECT uses dynamic channel allocation`
`01:19.18`	`orlock`	`wunderkin: Asterisk SVN-branch-1.2-r42600`
`01:19.23`	`benjk`	`radio channels are assigned on a first use first serve basis`
`01:19.26`	`orlock`	`ahh, i see`
`01:19.28`	`wunderkin`	`orlock, are you always using 1 codec?`
`01:19.30`	`orlock`	`its in asterisk-addons`
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`01:19.49`	`orlock`	`wunderkin: dont i need format_mpf for playing mp3's for music on hold?`
`01:19.54`	`wunderkin`	`no`
`01:20.01`	`teleweb`	`ah, and how many channels can be used at the same time?`
`01:20.36`	`niter3`	`X-Rob_: I'll put it this way... isntead of doing a register => user:pass@iaxtel.com i change the domain to a IP and it's making no diff`
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`01:20.51`	`X-Rob_`	`niter3, /var/log/asterisk/full`
`01:21.29`	`niter3`	`i only have messages in there`
`01:23.27`	`niter3`	`ahhh`
`01:23.29`	`niter3`	`me think I know`
`01:24.36`	`niter3`	`hrm. made no diffs`
`01:25.34`	`benjk`	`teleweb, its been ages that I looked at DECT specs but its gotta be hundreds of channels`
`01:25.46`	`benjk`	`the DECT band is almost 20 MHz wide`
`01:25.55`	`hmmhesays`	`anyone in here using a2billing?`
`01:26.04`	`teleweb`	`ok thanks benjk, no worries then`
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`01:26.15`	`benjk`	`no worries mate ;)`
`01:26.37`	`Katty`	`hihi.`
`01:28.52`	`X-Rob_`	`2 TB of HDD space.`
`01:28.54`	`X-Rob_`	`Man that's horn.`
`01:29.02`	`X-Rob_`	`6 x 400g drives`
`01:29.22`	`benjk`	`X-Rob, you're talking about your pr0n collection there?`
`01:30.02`	`niter3`	`X-Rob_: i'm pretty lost... I don't know why it's not functioning... :s`
`01:30.19`	`niter3`	`X-Rob_: I've tried telling it to register to IP isntead of domain name and nothing changed......`
`01:31.21`	`X-Rob_`	`benjk, I finally convinced wifey to let me upgrade the file server ( 4 x 160g HDD's)`
`01:31.43`	`benjk`	`for the family movies?`
`01:31.50`	`teleweb`	`what would you guys recommend for a low-cost ip phone that works well with asterisk?`
`01:31.51`	`X-Rob_`	`so I did a best value for money comparison, and for 2TB of space, raid5, was 6 x 400g SATAs`
`01:32.04`	`X-Rob_`	`benjk, the pron collection, duh 8)`
`01:32.10`	`benjk`	`heh`
`01:32.24`	`Druken`	`for the private video collection.....`
`01:32.34`	`benjk`	`cam is running 24/7 eh?`
`01:32.38`	`teleweb`	`I am thinking about using the GXP-2000... (mainly because it has backlight which is good for home users)`
`01:32.47`	`X-Rob_`	`teleweb, I don't mind the GXP2000`
`01:33.04`	`X-Rob_`	`benjk, we've recently got a DVR, and uncompressed those files are _huge_`
`01:33.07`	`X-Rob_`	`uh`
`01:33.10`	`teleweb`	`what do you mean X-Rob_?`
`01:33.11`	`X-Rob_`	`Digital Cam-Corder`
`01:33.19`	`X-Rob_`	`teleweb, the GXP2000 is ok`
`01:33.25`	`X-Rob_`	`even`
`01:33.32`	`benjk`	`teleweb ACT P104`
`01:33.54`	`benjk`	`or their newer models`
`01:34.15`	`teleweb`	`ah didn't know that brand yet`
`01:34.27`	`benjk`	`its a Taiwanese OEM manufacturer`
`01:34.41`	`benjk`	`the phones are being branded by many companies all over the world`
`01:34.50`	`teleweb`	`and you have good experience with it?`
`01:34.53`	`X-Rob_`	`PA1688 phones?`
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`01:35.14`	`teleweb`	`I tested a PA1688 but found the sound quality to be crappy...`
`01:35.21`	`benjk`	`no comparison`
`01:35.34`	`benjk`	`the ACT phones are solid business phones`
`01:35.51`	`benjk`	`not always as beautiful as Western designs, but solid`
`01:36.06`	`benjk`	`and the keys are very good quality`
`01:36.18`	`teleweb`	`and they would be a good choice for home use as well?`
`01:36.24`	`benjk`	`no other CN or TW manufacturer has good quality key pads`
`01:36.32`	`benjk`	`sure`
`01:37.00`	`benjk`	`the GXP-2000 is kind of ok, but the keypad is still lousy`
`01:37.27`	`teleweb`	`Oh! I see that the D-Link IP Phone is actually an ACT :)`
`01:37.28`	`teleweb`	`http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=407`
`01:37.53`	`benjk`	`is it now?`
`01:37.58`	`benjk`	`I didn't know that`
`01:38.40`	`teleweb`	`yep it's a P104SLD :)`
`01:38.45`	`orlock`	`wow, i just made a spec file for asterisk-addons, and it compiled cleanly and gave me RPM's first go`
`01:38.46`	`orlock`	`woo`
`01:38.47`	`benjk`	`heh`
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`01:39.14`	`_DAW`	`hello mates`
`01:39.22`	`benjk`	`how many RPMs do you get out of it?`
`01:41.47`	`niter3`	`Honestly what am I doing wrong?`
`01:41.48`	`niter3`	`urg.`
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`01:44.17`	`grexk`	`how can I debug cdr_odbc?`
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`01:45.00`	`doolph`	`anyone is xpert with NAT issues?`
`01:45.16`	`doolph`	`i got asterisk server behind nat and a sip client behind nat`
`01:45.25`	`doolph`	`got no sound`
`01:46.30`	`niter3`	`doolph: Make sure you're forwarding your RTP ports`
`01:46.36`	`niter3`	`1000-2000 to your system.`
`01:46.56`	`teleweb`	`ACT also has wlan phones: http://www.act-tel.com.tw/_pg/products/productItem.asp?productKey=54`
`01:47.09`	`orlock`	`enjk: one`
`01:47.10`	`teleweb`	`are they any good?`
`01:50.34`	`benjk`	`never tried those`
`01:50.46`	`benjk`	`but in general WiFi phones are so so`
`01:51.24`	`Ryushin`	`Is there any reason why my music on hold sounds like deep space sounds or something strange like that?`
`01:51.28`	`teleweb`	`That's true... and one of the reasons I bought the Siemens`
`01:51.32`	`Ryushin`	`It hasn't played any music yet.`
`01:52.26`	`niter3`	`my log full doesn't report anything about DNS...`
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`02:00.32`	`mark1`	`hello`
`02:03.19`	`grexk`	`I'm following this one -> http://tinyurl.com/b5p4p and my /var/log/asterisk/messages says http://pastebin.ca/168515? Any help will be appreciated`
`02:03.31`	`Ryushin`	`Ahhh..... mpg321 does not work. Debian installed it by default. I had to get the nonfree mpg123 package in order for it to work.`
`02:04.57`	`niter3`	`wow, i'm getting no wehre`
`02:04.57`	`mark1`	`Hi Folks, doing: show queue myqueue .... Callers: 1. Zap/23-1 (wait: 0:19, prio: 0) * Is there a simple way to get caller id for queue callers?`
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`02:08.00`	`wunderkin`	`mark1, you can... show channel zap/23-1 ..`
`02:09.16`	`mark1`	`oh ic... I can perl that. .(that works for me)`
`02:09.35`	`mark1`	`thanks wunderkin!`
`02:11.12`	`mark1`	`effectively: an even better trick is "show channels verbose" (shows queue, duration, callerid all in 1) !!! Thanks folks!`
`02:11.42`	`niter3`	`ok well instead of complaining.... I simply can't make calls out to IAXtel.. If somebody has a minute http://pastebin.ca/168522 I'm to the point I have no idea.`
`02:11.42`	`wunderkin`	`ah`
`02:12.21`	`doolph`	`how can I stop a call from cli`
`02:12.31`	`wunderkin`	`doolph, soft hangup`
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`02:17.59`	`linagee`	`your call may be monitored or recorded for quality purposes`
`02:18.58`	`linagee`	`what's the shortest message that makes recording calls legal? :-D "This call will be recorded."`
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`02:20.06`	`Druken`	`linagee: BEEP.....`
`02:20.10`	`Druken`	`:) hehehehe`
`02:20.30`	`linagee`	`Druken: yes. put the rest in fine print someplace on the internet on some hidden document somewhere. lol.`
`02:20.47`	`linagee`	`Druken: * = beep may constitute your agreement for this call to be recorded`
`02:22.04`	`Druken`	`get someone to create an MOH song that tells them in lulluabye that their call is going to be recorded`
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`02:22.34`	`linagee`	`Druken: do you actually have to tell people the call is recorded if you don't plan on using it as evidence or something? what about just for records.`
`02:23.19`	`Druken`	`would depends on the laws that govern your area...`
`02:23.56`	`linagee`	`Druken: interesting... what if the recording happened outside the country? bounce it off a box in china and have it be legal. ;)`
`02:24.22`	`Druken`	`excelent question...`
`02:25.04`	`linagee`	`Druken: interesting. there are places that sell phone cards that let you change the caller ID. lol`
`02:25.20`	`linagee`	`Druken: it's just a simple trick in asterisk with a T1 though. lol`
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`02:25.35`	`Druken`	`not telling me nuttin i don't already know...`
`02:26.06`	`linagee`	`Druken: but it's funny they make a card "to make it accessible to the general public" heh`
`02:26.21`	`Druken`	`any callingcard SHOULD echo the incomming CID for it's outgoing calls, but people are stupid`
`02:26.26`	`linagee`	`Druken: and at $0.33/minute, they must be raking it in!`
`02:27.00`	`Druken`	`true`
`02:27.28`	`linagee`	`Druken: what if someone used that anonymous card that lets you change caller ID and put like, "911" LOL. "Hello? This is the police. You will do exactly as I say." LOL.`
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`02:28.21`	`linagee`	`Druken: the page says "for entertainment purposes only". that sure would be entertaining! :-D`
`02:28.47`	`dmz`	`anyone here try/use vitelity.net?`
`02:29.50`	`Druken`	`linagee: nah... wouldn't work... has to be a minumum of 7 numbers...`
`02:30.03`	`linagee`	`Druken: it does work. :-D`
`02:30.09`	`linagee`	`Druken: there is no min or max`
`02:30.25`	`linagee`	`Druken: whoa!`
`02:30.29`	`Druken`	`well, i've never seen it work... not that i've tried it....`
`02:30.37`	`\|Vulture\|`	`linagee: I wouldn't mess around with setting CID to 911`
`02:30.38`	`\|Vulture\|`	`lol`
`02:30.42`	`linagee`	`Druken: i wonder how many phones have a buffer overflow potential in their incoming CID? lol`
`02:31.02`	`linagee`	`\|Vulture\|: i'm just saying. in theory. for educational purposes only. :-D`
`02:31.26`	`\|Vulture\|`	`speaking of which our new PRI provider only allows CID set to DIDs... anyone have a clue how to remove this, I know its on the router and its a Cisco 1760`
`02:31.38`	`linagee`	`\|Vulture\|: interesting! heh`
`02:31.50`	`\|Vulture\|`	`yea all our other PRI providers could care less`
`02:32.02`	`linagee`	`\|Vulture\|: why do you care though`
`02:32.05`	`\|Vulture\|`	`wanna set it to 123... go right ahead lol`
`02:32.12`	`Druken`	`\|Vulture\|: it may not be... may be at the providers site... some only allow CID to be set to DID's you own...`
`02:32.32`	`\|Vulture\|`	`linagee: well one of our DIDs isnt ported in yet its on POTS still and I wanted to set CID to that since its the main #`
`02:32.38`	`linagee`	`\|Vulture\|: i've had call centers call me and their CID was all funky. it's not even their extension. just a bunch of random numbers`
`02:32.51`	`\|Vulture\|`	`Druken: it makes sense I just dont like it lol`
`02:33.07`	`Druken`	`:)`
`02:34.08`	`\|Vulture\|`	`oh well Ill see if I can yell at them and have them remove it... you know you get a PRI for the freedom!`
`02:34.27`	`linagee`	`for the freedom?`
`02:34.56`	`\|Vulture\|`	`of being able to set cid and have digital lines.. I guess I got 1 of those`
`02:35.12`	`linagee`	`\|Vulture\|: can their asses. tell them you'll switch to a voip provider if they don't.`
`02:35.13`	`\|Vulture\|`	`the POTs there are so crappy... if it rains... echo & static`
`02:35.33`	`quid246`	`haha`
`02:35.37`	`\|Vulture\|`	`and they don't have supervisor disconnect... go figure`
`02:35.43`	`\|Vulture\|`	`that has been suck a PIA`
`02:35.45`	`\|Vulture\|`	`such`
`02:35.51`	`linagee`	`\|Vulture\|: supervisor disconnect?`
`02:36.00`	`quid246`	`I remember being in Thailand and getting a kick out of hearing hydro poles buzz and arc at night`
`02:36.10`	`\|Vulture\|`	`linagee: yea the signal that tells * that the remote party hung up`
`02:36.28`	`linagee`	`\|Vulture\|: huh? w/o it, asterisk doesn't know?`
`02:36.28`	`\|Vulture\|`	`so you can immagine what kinda of royal messups that causes if the person goes through an IVR`
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`02:36.52`	`\|Vulture\|`	`linagee: correct, almost all lines have it, or something that does the same thing`
`02:36.59`	`linagee`	`\|Vulture\|: interesting.... i could call your IVR like a million times and DoS it... heh`
`02:37.07`	`\|Vulture\|`	`and no one at the company had ANY idea what I was talking about`
`02:37.12`	`\|Vulture\|`	`linagee: yup all 4 POTs!`
`02:37.12`	`linagee`	`\|Vulture\|: it wouldn't know when the call ended`
`02:37.16`	`linagee`	`\|Vulture\|: lol`
`02:37.25`	`\|Vulture\|`	`you just tie them up and busy out the system`
`02:37.39`	`linagee`	`isn't a T1 like 21 lines or something?`
`02:37.40`	`\|Vulture\|`	`thank god for channels and DIDs`
`02:37.59`	`\|Vulture\|`	`23+1D for the PRI but we have a fractional`
`02:38.07`	`linagee`	`oic`
`02:38.11`	`\|Vulture\|`	`7B+1D and 768K bandwidth`
`02:38.47`	`linagee`	`if you have 7 channels, why did you say 4 POTs?`
`02:38.55`	`\|Vulture\|`	`every provider is slightly different now with integrated access since most of them are moving to VoIP`
`02:39.01`	`\|Vulture\|`	`we also have 4 POTs`
`02:39.09`	`\|Vulture\|`	`but they are in the process of being replaced`
`02:39.25`	`linagee`	`\|Vulture\|: LOL. they should just provide you bandwidth instead of all the layer on top of layer. LOL`
`02:39.28`	`\|Vulture\|`	`the T1 was just installed last friday`
`02:39.59`	`\|Vulture\|`	`linagee: I haven't had good enough experiences with pure VoIP office installations`
`02:40.04`	`\|Vulture\|`	`I really don't trust them`
`02:40.08`	`\|Vulture\|`	`not yet anyways`
`02:40.23`	`linagee`	`\|Vulture\|: well obviously you need a fail over connection`
`02:40.38`	`linagee`	`\|Vulture\|: you should have that much anyway. what can you really do with no intarnet? lol`
`02:40.39`	`\|Vulture\|`	`yes we use VoIP for LD and interoffice`
`02:41.38`	`Druken`	`uhg...`
`02:41.50`	`Druken`	`never run a linuxbox on less then 20 gigs...`
`02:42.15`	`linagee`	`Druken: uhg. never run a linux box on non lvm. :p`
`02:42.46`	`linagee`	`Druken: and also, uhg, never run a linux box on non raid 1 partitions. ;)`
`02:43.11`	`Druken`	`linagee: for a home server, i don't need that :)`
`02:43.21`	`linagee`	`Druken: huh? why`
`02:43.30`	`linagee`	`Druken: is your home less vunerable to hardware failure? LOL`
`02:43.39`	`linagee`	`Druken: i use all raid systems at home`
`02:43.54`	`Druken`	`no... just my home system is LESS critical....`
`02:44.11`	`linagee`	`Druken: first you have to ask yourself, are you going to be using computers for more than 5 years.... then the decision is obvious.`
`02:44.12`	`Druken`	`for the most part... i don't give two shits if the home server goes down....`
`02:44.28`	`linagee`	`Druken: who cares about going down. we're talking about losing everything. lol`
`02:44.40`	`Druken`	`nothing really on it to loose... hehe`
`02:44.43`	`Druken`	`it's a home server....`
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`02:45.05`	`linagee`	`Druken: hrm. i guess you really don't do anything important with computers at home then? all your data is worth $0?`
`02:45.26`	`Druken`	`a basic asterisk server, some config files, and two nics to do my IPMASQ`
`02:45.39`	`linagee`	`Druken: no documents?`
`02:45.56`	`Druken`	`i do lots with computers at home, but they stay on the desktops, or my servers at my office`
`02:46.13`	`Druken`	`no documents on the server... (not even help documents)`
`02:46.20`	`linagee`	`Druken: like what if you write a journal or something. lol.`
`02:46.25`	`linagee`	`zap. gone.`
`02:46.51`	`Druken`	`if i wrote a journal, it'd be on my web server, my database server, or on my lappy`
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`02:47.15`	`linagee`	`Druken: on the lappy. heh. then it dies when the harddrive chokes`
`02:47.16`	`Druken`	`but, luckily, i don't write a journal....`
`02:48.06`	`Druken`	`hehehe, if it's something important, then it's backed up in several places`
`02:48.46`	`linagee`	`Druken: automatically? :-D`
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`02:49.11`	`Druken`	`depends on the importance...`
`02:49.13`	`linagee`	`Druken: through a series of rsyncs scattered throughout the intarweb? hehehe. ;)`
`02:49.38`	`Druken`	`:P`
`02:49.55`	`Druken`	`welp, it's damn near 11... and i gotta be up for 7... time for bed`
`02:50.05`	`Druken`	`gotta have my beauty sleep....`
`02:50.06`	`linagee`	`there should be some standard way of giving files metadata, for instance, how important it is / how many times to replicate it`
`02:50.20`	`linagee`	`Druken: you're the Druken. you don't need sleep. :p`
`02:50.45`	`linagee`	`you should drink more, then show up to work drunk tomorrow. you can tell your boss, "i'm drunken! :o)"`
`02:53.37`	`linagee`	`heheh. get a DID in canada. ;)`
`02:53.41`	`los415`	`hey guys is there a way to set like a global variable for just a single context i know u can do one in the [global] where it's whatever=blah is there a way to do it just for a single context without having to setvar`
`02:53.50`	`linagee`	`or mexico. lol`
`02:54.11`	`linagee`	`get a DID in mexico, then scratch the number into a bathroom in mexico. LOL.`
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`02:54.34`	`Katty`	`mrow, hi, etc.`
`02:54.53`	`linagee`	`have it with a voicemail message, "don't you have better things to do than call numbers scratched in bathrooms?"`
`02:56.57`	`russellb`	`los415:`
`02:57.17`	`russellb`	`los415: not currently. variables can only be specific to a channel, or completely global.`
`02:57.41`	`los415`	`hrmmm ok`
`02:57.58`	`russellb`	`you could do it in astdb, i guess ...`
`02:58.16`	`Katty`	`i read that as vegetables can only...`
`02:58.18`	`russellb`	`put something in astdb in /context/varname`
`02:58.51`	`los415`	`hrmmm yea i guess i could do that`
`02:58.56`	`X-Rob_`	`That's the way I do it for ringgroups-with-call-confirmation`
`02:59.09`	`X-Rob_`	`ringgroups/{uniqueid}/status`
`02:59.16`	`russellb`	`that's probably the best way to accomplish what you want.`
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`03:05.05`	`quid246`	`why in the heck does Asterisk accept an "unauthenticted" IAX call?`
`03:05.52`	`Katty`	`quid246: because you let it.`
`03:05.59`	`Katty`	`quid246: and it doesn't love you.`
`03:06.06`	`Katty`	`quid246: because you didn't love it first.`
`03:06.13`	`quid246`	`But I show it love.`
`03:06.15`	`quid246`	`all the time.`
`03:06.25`	`quid246`	`not that nice cheery love`
`03:06.27`	`grexk`	`I already configured mysql to allow remote connection but still my cdr_odbc not working?http://pastebin.ca/168550`
`03:06.29`	`quid246`	`but that, pentitentiary style love`
`03:06.31`	`Katty`	`quid246: i'd recommend sing natalie cole music to it while consulting iax.conf`
`03:08.00`	`quid246`	`Katty: Yeah... I'm lost with users, peers, friends.`
`03:08.16`	`Katty`	`quid246: sounds like you're in a pickle.`
`03:08.44`	`Katty`	`quid246: have you found an example iax.conf to poke at?`
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`03:09.28`	`quid246`	`Im culling a virgin one right now, since I stripped out alot of the stuff in mine`
`03:10.02`	`Katty`	`well all know it's a bad idea to handle virgins without kid gloves on!`
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`03:10.36`	`Katty`	`quid246: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+iax.conf <- have an example.`
`03:12.05`	`quid246`	`hmm`
`03:12.08`	`quid246`	`I think I am seeing my problem`
`03:13.02`	`Katty`	`i bet it's those shiny red sunglasses you're wearin`
`03:13.04`	`quid246`	`I am was/am using Realtime and had the "default" entry in my iax.conf (though it points to a default with a NoOp)... hmm, let me see if this cures my ailment`
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`03:13.59`	`Katty`	`if not, take two cookies and ssh asterisk in the morning`
`03:14.40`	`Strom_C`	`this is ridiculous. I can't find a decent ISDN call setup protocol diagram.`
`03:15.25`	`Strom_C`	`oh wait...`
`03:16.27`	`Katty`	`Strom_C: i'd recommend a crayon and letter R`
`03:16.32`	`quid246`	`katty: I'm feeling warm and fuzzy, like sleeping on velour sheets`
`03:16.36`	`Strom_C`	`?`
`03:16.40`	`Katty`	`Strom_C: maybe a little purple electrical tape to put it on the wall.`
`03:16.59`	`quid246`	`someone be smokin da wahacky tabacky`
`03:17.12`	`Strom_C`	`"ISDN" by Gary Kesler. Copyright 1990...`
`03:17.30`	`quid246`	`Ahh 1990... ages ago yet it only seems like yesterday`
`03:17.44`	`quid246`	`Grunge hadn't hit yet`
`03:18.01`	`quid246`	`And we all feared the millenium`
`03:18.04`	`quid246`	`or however it's spelled`
`03:18.23`	`Strom_C`	`the early 90s are a time I'd rather not remember thankyouverymuch`
`03:18.29`	`quid246`	`haha`
`03:18.46`	`Katty`	`it was a time of neon green and pink, and side ponytails.`
`03:19.03`	`quid246`	`One thing I hated about the 90's was that one drum loop that got used in every song, Milli Vanilli, and a few other songs`
`03:19.06`	`Katty`	`i was one stylish 10 year old.`
`03:19.43`	`Strom_C`	`hey, what do you know...there's a call flow diagram in here!`
`03:19.44`	`quid246`	`and mullets too`
`03:20.10`	`quid246`	`wow, if you didn't find one there I was going to suggest looking at archives of cave drawings`
`03:20.41`	`quid246`	`BTW, nice bit on the "numbers" stations.`
`03:20.57`	`Strom_C`	`hahaha, thanks`
`03:21.22`	`quid246`	`Reminded me of the late 80's, when as a 14 year old I would write the numbers down and spend an hour or so thinking I could find a rhyme or reason to them`
`03:21.41`	`Katty`	`sounds like Hackers.`
`03:21.52`	`Strom_C`	`did you see the talk, or did you just find out about it from the internets?`
`03:22.09`	`quid246`	`I think I read about it on \.`
`03:22.13`	`Strom_C`	`cool`
`03:22.17`	`Katty`	`you mean /.`
`03:22.22`	`quid246`	`that too`
`03:22.35`	`Strom_C`	`no, he means \|-`
`03:22.36`	`Katty`	`that kinda looks like a golf club.`
`03:22.40`	`Strom_C`	`pipedash`
`03:23.16`	`quid246`	`THe ont thing I liek about numbers staiotns... is that they just sound creepy... especially the ones that play music.`
`03:24.36`	`quid246`	`Just like AM radio at night, slightly off the station... gives me the creeps.`
`03:25.06`	`Katty`	`weird.`
`03:25.12`	`Katty`	`sleeping the dark gives me the creeps.`
`03:25.20`	`Strom_C`	`I hope my numbers stations gave you the creeps`
`03:25.21`	`Katty`	`sleeping in the dark /alone/ i should say.`
`03:25.35`	`Katty`	`that emily rose movie sure screwed me up :/`
`03:25.44`	`quid246`	`you need to live in the arctic then in the summer, and antarctic in winter... almost 24 hours daylight`
`03:26.50`	`Katty`	`yeah.`
`03:26.50`	`Katty`	`that'd be pretty awesome, actually. i've got SAD`
`03:28.02`	`quid246`	`haha, Im sick of winter... maybe I will go to Brazil this winter and live down there for awhile`
`03:40.33`	`X-Rob_`	`It's nice in Queensland at the moment`
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`03:45.15`	`Strom_C`	`hey Cresl1n :)`
`03:45.29`	`Cresl1n`	`Strom_C: !!!!`
`03:45.32`	`Cresl1n`	`long time no see`
`03:45.39`	`Strom_C`	`yup`
`03:45.41`	`Strom_C`	`ive been busy`
`03:47.22`	`Strom_C`	`whatcha been up to?`
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`03:57.12`	`epablo`	`Hi people`
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`03:59.20`	`brimstone`	`hi epablo`
`03:59.37`	`epablo`	`How are you doing?`
`03:59.48`	`brimstone`	`pretty good, you?`
`04:00.07`	`epablo`	`fine..`
`04:01.16`	`epablo`	`I'm having some dtmf problems with an IVR. It misses some keys I punch. Any ideas on how to fine tune that? I've been playing with the digit timeout with no luck`
`04:01.43`	`brimstone`	`what type of media is going into the IVR?`
`04:01.52`	`brimstone`	`sip? zap?`
`04:02.42`	`epablo`	`sip`
`04:02.55`	`brimstone`	`what type of dtmfmode ?`
`04:03.09`	`brimstone`	`rfc2833 is the best i think`
`04:03.25`	`epablo`	`yeap I have that set on both sides..`
`04:03.48`	`epablo`	`I have a quintum FXO that is fwd my analog lines to the asterisk server`
`04:05.40`	`brimstone`	`well, rfc2833 says that the dtmf tones are converted and sent over the sip signalling, not as actual tones`
`04:06.18`	`epablo`	`yeap.. but asterisk is missing some of them.. I have to punch them slowly`
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`04:06.32`	`brimstone`	`i think it's more a problem where the fxo is, not where the ivr is`
`04:07.26`	`epablo`	`ok`
`04:08.40`	`epablo`	`I've had similar problems with different equipment.. Of course with zaptel and IAX it normally works perfectlly`
`04:09.25`	`epablo`	`but well I'll have to asume it is the quintum`
`04:09.57`	`BlepsoaF`	`can someone look at http://pastebin.ca/168599 and maybe point me to why the errors are yeilded`
`04:10.38`	`X-Rob_`	`You're trying to configure channel 24`
`04:10.43`	`X-Rob_`	`that's the signalling channel`
`04:10.45`	`X-Rob_`	`don't use it`
`04:10.54`	`X-Rob_`	`oh`
`04:10.55`	`X-Rob_`	`no you're not`
`04:11.43`	`BlepsoaF`	`:S im not really sure of the order of the config file`
`04:11.45`	`X-Rob_`	`update zaptel`
`04:11.54`	`BlepsoaF`	`im using the latest stable`
`04:12.56`	`hmmhesays`	`avenged sevenfold concert tomorrow!`
`04:12.57`	`hmmhesays`	`YEAH`
`04:12.59`	`hmmhesays`	`!`
`04:14.11`	`BlepsoaF`	`any other ideas?`
`04:14.11`	`epablo`	`avenged sevenfold???`
`04:15.20`	`brimstone`	`BlepsoaF, do a full restart of asterisk, including unloading and reloading the zaptel modules`
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`04:15.38`	`BlepsoaF`	`brimstone: otherwise the config looks fine?`
`04:15.43`	`brimstone`	`yeah`
`04:15.52`	`brimstone`	`no [trunkgroup] at the top`
`04:15.59`	`brimstone`	`but that shouldn't be too much of a problem`
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`04:16.27`	`toaks`	`hello`
`04:16.40`	`toaks`	`so whats going on here ?`
`04:16.47`	`epablo`	`asteirsk LOL`
`04:16.53`	`epablo`	`say`
`04:17.49`	`toaks`	`epablo - whats going on?`
`04:18.02`	`BlepsoaF`	`brimstone: good call :) that worked`
`04:18.09`	`brimstone`	`hurray!`
`04:18.28`	`epablo`	`toaks: Not much.. I'm on my way to hit the sack`
`04:18.35`	`toaks`	`ah righto.`
`04:18.45`	`epablo`	`Thanks for the help provided`
`04:19.07`	`epablo`	`c'ya`
`04:19.14`	`toaks`	`epablo: cya`
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`04:19.33`	`toaks`	`anyone know how to configure asterisk on redhat.`
`04:19.35`	`toaks`	`?`
`04:19.48`	`toaks`	`ive been working on it for a couple of days...`
`04:19.56`	`toaks`	`got pretty much everythign sorted.`
`04:20.15`	`toaks`	`using a TDM400P card`
`04:20.22`	`toaks`	`2 FXO and 2 FXS`
`04:20.30`	`Strom_C`	`what are you trying to configure, exactly`
`04:20.34`	`brimstone`	`which version of redhat?`
`04:20.39`	`toaks`	`7.3`
`04:20.46`	`brimstone`	`which kernel?`
`04:21.04`	`brimstone`	`also, i highly recommend upgrading`
`04:21.07`	`toaks`	`2.4.18-3`
`04:21.07`	`X-Rob_`	`7.3???`
`04:21.15`	`X-Rob_`	`Dude, upgrade.`
`04:21.18`	`toaks`	`kernel 2.4.18-3`
`04:21.18`	`X-Rob_`	`asterisk will hate you.`
`04:21.18`	`brimstone`	`i've seen problems in older redhat kernels`
`04:21.20`	`toaks`	`serious?`
`04:21.24`	`X-Rob_`	`seriously, upgrade.`
`04:21.28`	`X-Rob_`	`Download CentOS 4.4`
`04:21.28`	`toaks`	`ok cool`
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`04:21.34`	`brimstone`	`yeah, you're using a kernel from years ago`
`04:21.38`	`toaks`	`ah ok.`
`04:21.49`	`toaks`	`well maybe thats the next thing to try.`
`04:22.05`	`brimstone`	`go with a 2.6 when you get a chance`
`04:22.05`	`toaks`	`so - i know the redhat config files well - compared to debian etc.`
`04:22.35`	`toaks`	`ok - will download a new version of redhat then .`
`04:22.55`	`toaks`	`centos os u recon?`
`04:23.01`	`X-Rob_`	`toaks, centos 4.4`
`04:23.08`	`brimstone`	`i perfer something with apt, but that's just me`
`04:23.11`	`toaks`	`hmmm..`
`04:23.15`	`toaks`	`like debian.`
`04:23.24`	`brimstone`	`or ubuntu`
`04:23.26`	`brimstone`	`but yes`
`04:24.19`	`arcanine`	`i prefer centos`
`04:26.43`	`toaks`	`ok i have ubuntu 5.10 sitting on the desk - im going to install that now.`
`04:27.35`	`BlepsoaF`	`i run asterisk on gentoo no problem, just more of a management nightmare if you arent used to it`
`04:28.32`	`BlepsoaF`	`Dell 1850 with Cisco 7941 phones`
`04:29.11`	`orlock`	`centos has yum, which is pretty much te same as apt`
`04:29.36`	`orlock`	`toaks: CentOS config files will be essentially the same as redhat 7.3 configs`
`04:29.48`	`BlepsoaF`	`7.3 is really old`
`04:29.59`	`orlock`	`not that old`
`04:30.08`	`orlock`	`i still have systems that were installed as 6.2 running`
`04:30.13`	`BlepsoaF`	`wow`
`04:30.23`	`brimstone`	`running recent asterisk and zaptel?`
`04:30.30`	`orlock`	`brimstone: hell no`
`04:30.40`	`brimstone`	`case in point`
`04:30.47`	`BlepsoaF`	`we've moved to RHEL 3 / 4`
`04:31.08`	`BlepsoaF`	`for other production means, but I run asterisk on gentoo mostly`
`04:34.03`	`shodan`	`anyone knows if the aastra aa480* phones' speakerphone is full duplex ?`
`04:35.29`	`BlepsoaF`	`does anyone know if asterisk can support alphanumeric callerid passthrough from a PRI?`
`04:36.22`	`toaks`	`orlock: i was thinking about that. i am familiar with redhad config files.`
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`04:36.41`	`brimstone`	`asterisk should support alphanumeric in the name field of callerid over pri BlepsoaF`
`04:36.50`	`brimstone`	`i don't know of it not supporting it`
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`04:46.22`	`grexk`	`cdr_odbc is not working using mysql, but I can connect using isql?`
`04:46.52`	`Strom_C`	`here's an uber dumb question: can you specify the video codecs as allows and disallows in iax.conf? I imagine you can...`
`04:50.15`	`brimstone`	`no`
`04:50.25`	`brimstone`	`those are set in omgvideo.conf`
`04:50.45`	`Strom_C`	`hahaha`
`04:51.08`	`Strom_C`	`roflpictures.conf?`
`04:51.59`	`brimstone`	`... Aspect?`
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`05:02.10`	`shodan`	`can a x100p receive a fax ? or is it that when it detects a fan it tells hylafax to use a real modem to pickup and receive the fax ?`
`05:05.15`	`nextime`	`shodan : look for iaxmodem`
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`05:10.14`	`THX2000`	`Has anyone got the find-me feature on voip-info to work...it looks like its got a few design flaws`
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`05:14.06`	`mishehu`	`ugh. has something changed in the caller-id matching in asterisk lately? I can't do the ex-girlfriend filter thingie, ie s/_1234567890 => do_something_different`
`05:14.30`	`mishehu`	`it's not working for me since 1.2.11, and I'm not finding any changed docs.`
`05:14.57`	`mishehu`	`btw, I'm using AEL for that.`
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`05:19.03`	`sid`	`Is there a plugin or something, so I can have voice recognition software on my asterisk? Or a menu or something?`
`05:19.34`	`brimstone`	`sid, look up sphynx or lumenvox`
`05:19.46`	`sid`	`thanks brimstone`
`05:19.49`	`brimstone`	`np`
`05:19.58`	`shodan`	`nextime, that looks like what I need , but I can't help but think that my external rs-232 gvc modem is better a receiving faxes than a software modem over a x100p and a iax channel , is there a way to get asterisk to tell hylafax to pickup with the external modem and then hangup the fxo ?`
`05:20.30`	`brimstone`	`shodan, most likely`
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`05:30.49`	`Kernel_Core`	`hi all`
`05:32.31`	`toaks`	`brimstone: just installed ubuntu.`
`05:32.52`	`toaks`	`whats with not creating a root account on install.`
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`05:46.03`	`axscode`	`just want to ask. in CLI... can u issue a command to call a sip-user?`
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`05:52.26`	`shodan`	`how should I deal with multiple lines ? 1,dial(${TRUNK}/${EXTEN}) 2,1,dial(${TRUNK}/${EXTEN}) or should I make it a little bit less transparent to the user to allow him to choose the exit line ?`
`05:52.38`	`Strom_C`	`zaptel?`
`05:52.49`	`axscode`	`how will i create trunk?`
`05:58.32`	`DEader`	`can someone tell me the port that asterisk uses`
`05:58.41`	`DEader`	`for me to open them in my firewall`
`05:58.53`	`axscode`	`5060,10000-50000 ?`
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`06:00.55`	`DEader`	`axscode are u sure`
`06:01.00`	`DEader`	`cus that didsn't work`
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`06:03.05`	`Strom_C`	`DEader: for iax2,use 4569`
`06:03.14`	`Strom_C`	`for sip, use 5060, 10000-20000`
`06:04.23`	`tengulre11`	`http://www.megacomm.com.cn/download/asteriskmanager.rar`
`06:04.43`	`tengulre11`	`I wrote a asterisk manager tool.`
`06:04.57`	`Strom_C`	`Thank you for explaining /before/ linkspamming`
`06:05.00`	`Strom_C`	`</sarcasm>`
`06:05.22`	`shodan`	`hey don't close unopened tags you !`
`06:05.39`	`Strom_C`	`ack!`
`06:05.55`	`axscode`	`fin`
`06:05.58`	`shodan`	`damn kids .. screwing up my xml parser , grumble`
`06:06.03`	`Strom_C`	`heheh`
`06:06.11`	`Strom_C`	`shodan: are you using zaptel channels in your example?`
`06:06.43`	`shodan`	`one is zaptel , and I'll have two more iax ones`
`06:07.00`	`Strom_C`	`is it multiple lines on a zaptel card, or is it a single line?`
`06:08.13`	`shodan`	`trunk=zap/1 trunk2=iax/user:pass@host 1,dial(${trunk}/${exten}) 2,dial(${trunk2}/${exten})`
`06:08.16`	`shodan`	`single line`
`06:08.47`	`Strom_C`	`you'll probably want to write a macro that does conditional branching based on ${DIALSTATUS}`
`06:09.56`	`shodan`	`should I use a macro or just use dial(X/Y,,n) and skip to the next dial regardless ?`
`06:10.08`	`shodan`	`.... oh ok , yeah if it's busy I don't want to dial again nv,`
`06:10.23`	`Strom_C`	`or if the other party hangs up, you dont want to call them back`
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`06:12.23`	`teleweb`	`OK, tengulre11, I tested and played with your Asterisk Manager`
`06:12.43`	`teleweb`	`It's a good start, most things work`
`06:12.55`	`tlow`	`hows the spyware part, good ?`
`06:12.56`	`shodan`	`so on no answer/busy I run congestion , else I skip to the next dial , when I'm through with all the dials then -> congestion ? sounds good ?`
`06:13.15`	`Strom_C`	`whatever you need it to do`
`06:13.17`	`teleweb`	`tlow: don't be such an ass`
`06:14.24`	`tlow`	`im not the one who downloads stuffs, unpack and run.`
`06:14.57`	`teleweb`	`at least he developed something nice, where is your app tlow?`
`06:15.56`	`tlow`	`no app.`
`06:16.03`	`tlow`	`should i shot myself ?`
`06:16.07`	`teleweb`	`btw, I don't think someone would post spyware on this channel, most people are not criminals you know`
`06:16.13`	`tlow`	`true :)`
`06:16.29`	`grexk`	`anyone interested in helping me out with cdr_odbc...I've google but no luck.`
`06:17.19`	`teleweb`	`speaking of cdr, does anyone know of a good cdr parsing / reporting tool for the windows platform?`
`06:17.32`	`teleweb`	`we don't want php`
`06:18.34`	`teleweb`	`a billing solution in mono or asp.net would be nice`
`06:18.41`	`DEader`	`with asterisk is the port 10000 to 50000 are those tcp ports or udp`
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`06:20.01`	`teleweb`	`hm, it's rather quite in here`
`06:20.20`	`jbroome`	`quite what?`
`06:20.25`	`Strom_C`	`DEader: those are UDP for RTP traffic associated with SIP connections, and it's only 10000-20000`
`06:20.29`	`Strom_C`	`not 10000-50000`
`06:20.35`	`teleweb`	`aargh, I'm too tired`
`06:20.41`	`jbroome`	`:P`
`06:21.30`	`DEader`	`is the port 5060 a sign in port only`
`06:21.31`	`teleweb`	`I'm off to bed, it will be even quieter there ;-)`
`06:21.37`	`teleweb`	`cu tomorrow ;)`
`06:21.40`	`tlow`	`good night.`
`06:21.44`	`teleweb`	`thanks`
`06:21.48`	`Strom_C`	`DEader: 5060 UDP is for SIP signaling`
`06:21.59`	`Strom_C`	`10000-20000 are for RTP media`
`06:22.26`	`DEader`	`strom_c so if i open 5060 has tcp it won't work ?`
`06:22.35`	`Strom_C`	`no. SIP is UDP.`
`06:22.42`	`DEader`	`oh`
`06:22.46`	`DEader`	`maybe thats why`
`06:22.50`	`Strom_C`	`durh`
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`06:26.21`	`Gamercjm`	`anyone in here use voipjet? Im having some problems since they set there test server`
`06:27.35`	`jaike`	`anyone have the link to the changelog? need to see whats new with 1.2.12.1`
`06:31.13`	`sx-wks`	`considering there's a nano part to the version number, it has to be a security patch of some sort`
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`06:41.19`	`toaks`	`hello`
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`06:42.11`	`toaks`	`anyone know lots about ubuntu`
`06:42.24`	`toaks`	`like where i can get the source from to start installing asterisk.`
`06:42.39`	`grexk`	`what version?`
`06:42.48`	`toaks`	`2.6.12-9-386`
`06:42.56`	`toaks`	`can i use apt get to get it.`
`06:43.08`	`grexk`	`I mean version of asterisk?`
`06:43.13`	`toaks`	`usually i go to kernel.org to get for other linux versions.`
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`06:43.47`	`toaks`	`1.2-current`
`06:43.56`	`toaks`	`1.2.12 that is.`
`06:44.06`	`grexk`	`with dapper it too old`
`06:44.18`	`grexk`	`even with edgy`
`06:44.18`	`toaks`	`asterisk-1.2.12.1`
`06:44.25`	`toaks`	`nah - just downloaded it now.`
`06:44.30`	`toaks`	`shouldnt be too old.`
`06:44.51`	`toaks`	`cause when i go to install zaptel i need to have the linux source.`
`06:45.09`	`toaks`	`but where do i get that from - is there an apt get way to do it.`
`06:45.58`	`grexk`	`apt-get source zaptel...deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe should be enable.`
`06:47.38`	`toaks`	`yeah - thats all cool.`
`06:47.59`	`toaks`	`so that will get the zaptel source yeah?`
`06:48.05`	`grexk`	`yes`
`06:48.31`	`toaks`	`i got the source using wget from digium`
`06:48.59`	`toaks`	`then it is when i go to make install that it requires the ubuntu source code.`
`06:50.36`	`brimstone`	`toaks, apt-get install linux-kernel-headers`
`06:50.46`	`brimstone`	`then make install inside the latest zaptel tarball`
`06:51.18`	`grexk`	`or use module-assistant`
`06:52.41`	`toaks`	`apt-get linux-kernel-headers generates a 'Invalid operation linux-kernel-headers'`
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`06:53.08`	`toaks`	`i would have thought that the source for ubunto kernel should be available somewhere.`
`06:53.24`	`toaks`	`why is it not available at kernel.org like all the other distros.`
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`06:54.22`	`brimstone`	toaks, try apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
`06:54.28`	`arcanine`	`is der a limit on TE405P for simultaneous connections`
`06:54.37`	`grexk`	`its available in that site but it uses git...and they have their own patches..`
`06:55.00`	`toaks`	`i have kernel 2.6.12-9-386`
`06:55.06`	`grexk`	`follow brimstone tip`
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`06:55.22`	`toaks`	`i found on kernel.org 2.6.12 etc`
`06:55.33`	`toaks`	`but no -9-386 version.`
`06:55.37`	`CpuID`	`hey ppls, is there a predefined variable at all, where if i do a SIP blind transfer, it will return the transferrer?`
`06:55.50`	`CpuID`	`eg. the person who sent the transferree off on a blind transfer`
`06:56.08`	`tzafrir`	toaks, that is: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
`06:56.14`	`tzafrir`	`it's in your distro`
`06:56.45`	`tzafrir`	(look in http://packagers.ubuntu.com/linux-headers-`uname -r` )
`06:56.58`	`toaks`	`hmmm..`
`06:57.05`	`grexk_`	`or synaptic`
`06:57.07`	`tzafrir`	Though browsers tend not to support `-expansion ;-)
`06:57.35`	`tzafrir`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:58.17`	`toaks`	`ah nice one.`
`06:58.22`	`toaks`	`thats downloading now.`
`06:58.43`	`tzafrir`	`toaks, get apt configured first and formost!!!`
`06:58.46`	`toaks`	`apt-get install-linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386`
`06:58.52`	`tzafrir`	`ok`
`06:58.53`	`toaks`	`ah ok.`
`06:59.50`	`tzafrir`	`sorry. no debs for latest zaptel and asterisk yet. Hopefully today...`
`07:00.04`	`arcanine`	`is der a limit on TE405P for simultaneous connections`
`07:03.13`	`CunningPike`	`arcanine: How do you mean? You are limited to 23 channels x 4 spans`
`07:03.36`	`grexk_`	`tzafrir: really, in debian?`
`07:04.03`	`arcanine`	`w/c do you guys prefer - ubuntu, debian, centos`
`07:04.22`	`CunningPike`	`arcanine: CentOS for me`
`07:04.26`	`grexk_`	`maybe centos...`
`07:04.54`	`CunningPike`	`arcanine: The best distro is the one you know best`
`07:05.08`	`tzafrir`	`grexk_, I figure that Ubunto packages for Asterisk come from Debian`
`07:05.40`	`tzafrir`	`arcanine, do you use T1 or E1?`
`07:05.51`	`grexk_`	`but its not the latest one.`
`07:09.00`	`tzafrir`	`grexk_, the ubuntu one or the Debian one?`
`07:09.52`	`grexk_`	`the ubuntu`
`07:10.17`	`tzafrir`	`I'm not the ubuntu packager. I only help packging in Debian...`
`07:11.01`	`tzafrir`	`We do get useful bug reports from the ubuntu packagers, though`
`07:11.20`	`grexk_`	`ok...when will be the next snapshot release?`
`07:13.22`	`toaks`	`tzafrir : got an error installing zaptel - trying to use gcc-3.4`
`07:13.44`	`toaks`	`did a ln -s gcc-4.0> gcc-3.4`
`07:14.08`	`toaks`	`got a bit further with the make.`
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`07:38.21`	`paveraware`	`what should I do with it?`
`07:40.28`	`paveraware`	`no one really here?`
`07:40.33`	`paveraware`	`guess I'll check back later..`
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`07:47.07`	`shodan`	`how does a x100p know when the far side has hung up ? it used to be that the x100p would hang up almost immediately but now it takes a good 10-15 second, not sure what I did but how can I tune hangup detection beside using busydetect ? can asterisk detect the far side has hungup with the click sound or is there even some other way beside the busy tone from the switch ?`
`07:51.17`	`Cyt[away]`	`Friends, please: I'm trying to skip the instructions on my voicemail. That's what I did but doesnt work! What am I doing wrong?`
`07:51.17`	`Cyt[away]`	`exten => 344316501,1,Dial(SIP/101,10,TtrA(inccall))`
`07:51.17`	`Cyt[away]`	`exten => 344316501,2,Voicemail(sb101)`
`07:53.31`	`shodan`	`it's just Voicemail(s101)`
`07:55.44`	`Cyt[away]`	`the 'b' options skip the busy message?`
`07:57.25`	`shodan`	`no , u plays the unavailable message , b plays the busy message and s plays no message`
`07:59.58`	`toaks`	`ok - so i have installed zaptel libpri and asterisk onto debian.`
`08:00.00`	`Cyt[away]`	`hmmm Im a bit confuse, sorry to ask dumb questions. I've recorded in my voicemail a busy message. I just made a test calling an number from my extension and while this call was active I tryied to call the line that rings on my extension. I got the unavailable message, not the busy message. Why ?`
`08:00.11`	`toaks`	`should be able to do a sudo modprobe zaptel. yeah?`
`08:00.26`	`toaks`	`module zaptel not found.`
`08:05.26`	`toaks`	`EXTRAVERSION perhapse.`
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`08:29.37`	`shodan`	`[hC], apparently yes , but it's not mentionned in the user manual`
`08:32.07`	`Muck-`	`i only see manuals to connect isdn phones over an ntba with zaphfc but i got a eicon diva server with capi, can somebody help me? i don't get a dialtone`
`08:33.08`	`[hC]`	`shodan: any idea how??? (and which one?)`
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`08:34.21`	`Muck-`	`i only see manuals to connect isdn phones over an ntba with zaphfc but i got a eicon diva server with capi, can somebody help me? i don't get a dialtone on the phone...`
`08:34.53`	`shodan`	`[hC], no idea`
`08:35.19`	`[hC]`	`shodan: 10-4 :P`
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`08:48.34`	`shodan`	`grr , that x100p is going to get a swift kick in the rj-11 if it does not start cooperating quick`
`08:48.52`	`E-bola`	`Anybody here from sweden norway or denmark?`
`08:49.17`	`e-ddie`	`i'm from norway, but living in denmark`
`08:49.21`	`e-ddie`	`is that good enough?`
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`08:49.40`	`E-bola`	`hehe well do u use asterisk with any special hardware?`
`08:49.50`	`E-bola`	`looking for ppl with experience with scandinavian phone equibment`
`08:50.04`	`e-ddie`	`not yet`
`08:50.29`	`TimothyP`	`Hi, we have a new office. We want to have some phones in the office (about 10) and they should be able to call eachother. I should also be able to call out (we have 2 numbers to call out). We want to record all outgoing and incoming calls. Is Asterisk a good solution for a situation like this?`
`08:50.57`	`E-bola`	`TimothyP: yes it is`
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`08:55.39`	`TimothyP`	`sweet`
`08:55.42`	`TimothyP`	`I'll read the handbook then :)`
`08:56.11`	`E-bola`	`Its a good start`
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`09:00.59`	`TimothyP`	`is there a guide to the basic theory behind telephony as well somewhere as I'm starting from scratch`
`09:01.14`	`Strom_C`	`TimothyP: I have a document called "Telephony 101" on my site`
`09:01.16`	`Strom_C`	`one moment`
`09:01.16`	`E-bola`	`the handbook is that`
`09:01.33`	`E-bola`	`atleast i was able to get introduced without any doubts to all the concepts by reading it`
`09:01.36`	`Strom_C`	`http://www.stromcarlson.com/docs/basics/NTtelephony101.pdf`
`09:01.37`	`TimothyP`	`ah ok :)`
`09:01.40`	`TimothyP`	`printing it now :)`
`09:01.40`	`E-bola`	`im an it-consultant but knew nothing about telephony`
`09:01.42`	`Strom_C`	`that's a good primer from Nortel`
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`09:01.55`	`E-bola`	`ive stayed completely with sip`
`09:02.06`	`E-bola`	`so its a bit more simply, if u need to use "real" telephones thats a bit more advanced`
`09:02.07`	`Strom_C`	`I'm originally a telephony person, so I think most of the voip intros are garbage`
`09:02.19`	`TimothyP`	`printing both files now :p`
`09:02.26`	`Strom_C`	`but I approve of the one I just linked`
`09:02.31`	`Strom_C`	`printing? read it on the screen :)`
`09:03.20`	`TimothyP`	`doesn't feel right reading it on the screen, besides then i'm doing way to many other things`
`09:03.55`	`TimothyP`	`while it's printing a few (perhaps stupid questions) we put this asterisk server in the building. Can we then use software applications as well to make phone calls ? internal and outside`
`09:04.10`	`Strom_C`	`what do you mean "use software applications"`
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`09:06.38`	`shodan`	`TimothyP, google => "asterisk auto dial"`
`09:07.26`	`Strom_C`	`shodan: I'd rather figure out what he means first before pointing him at something`
`09:08.04`	`shodan`	`example I'm running here , hylafax receives a fax , it creates a callfile , boss' phone rings, he picks up , a voice says "you have a new fax, press 1 to see it " , he press one and the fax appears fullscreen on his computer :)`
`09:08.40`	`shodan`	`that's phonecandy ;)`
`09:09.05`	`Strom_C`	`hah, schmaltzy`
`09:09.06`	`TimothyP`	`what I mean is, one person has a phone, I have a laptop, I have a SIP or something application on my pc and I want to call that person (within the same office)`
`09:09.14`	`Strom_C`	`oh, a softphone`
`09:09.17`	`TimothyP`	`yes :)`
`09:09.25`	`Strom_C`	`yes, you can easily do that with asterisk`
`09:09.36`	`Strom_C`	`see, shodan? never assume :)`
`09:09.37`	`TimothyP`	`that's 1, and 2 I have an ATA adapter to connect my normal phone to a network line (sip)`
`09:09.44`	`shodan`	`yep`
`09:09.47`	`Strom_C`	`TimothyP: also doable`
`09:09.47`	`TimothyP`	`sweet :)`
`09:10.16`	`TimothyP`	`and using that same softphone I might be able to call outside as well ?`
`09:10.24`	`Strom_C`	`a phone is a phone is a phone`
`09:10.27`	`TimothyP`	`:)`
`09:10.29`	`TimothyP`	`sweet`
`09:10.34`	`Strom_C`	`doesnt matter if it'a softphone, an ATA, or a hardphone`
`09:10.39`	`TimothyP`	`that really opens up some options :)`
`09:10.40`	`Strom_C`	`it's all the same to asterisk`
`09:11.02`	`Strom_C`	`TimothyP: I do telecom consulting professionally. Clients are often amazed at how I can make their phones dance.`
`09:11.09`	`TimothyP`	`indeed`
`09:12.06`	`TimothyP`	`now I need to find a provider in belgium which delivers compatible hardware :)`
`09:12.32`	`Strom_C`	`well, the digium cards will speak E1 just fine`
`09:12.51`	`Strom_C`	`popular IP phones are Snom, Aastra, Polycom, and Cisco`
`09:13.00`	`Strom_C`	`stay away from Grandstream at all costs`
`09:13.15`	`TimothyP`	`oh why ? (because I have a grandstream ATA somewhere , got it for free)`
`09:13.22`	`Strom_C`	`because it's junk`
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`09:14.14`	`TimothyP`	`:`
`09:14.14`	`Strom_C`	`i mean, I suppose that if you just wanted something really cheap to toy around with, then a grandstream would fit the bill, but they're designed without much regard to durability or ergonomics.`
`09:14.15`	`TimothyP`	`:)`
`09:14.27`	`TimothyP`	`price isn't to much of a problem`
`09:14.38`	`Strom_C`	`seriously look at cisco and/or polycom`
`09:14.47`	`Strom_C`	`fantastic quality hardware`
`09:14.50`	`TimothyP`	`then inside the office, what would you suggest ... using IP phones or using classic phones ?`
`09:14.55`	`Strom_C`	`i prefer the cisco, given the choice`
`09:15.04`	`Strom_C`	`IP phones, definitely. It's the future now.`
`09:15.21`	`TimothyP`	`can it travers subnets?`
`09:15.41`	`Strom_C`	`are you just doing VLANs or are you doing NAT?`
`09:15.45`	`shodan`	`polycom are great , but they need more support than the space shuttle !`
`09:15.46`	`TimothyP`	`no NAT`
`09:15.56`	`Strom_C`	`TimothyP: you should be fine then`
`09:15.58`	`Strom_C`	`IP is IP`
`09:16.11`	`TimothyP`	`172.17.1.0/16 <---> Linux IPTABLES Router <---> 172.17.2.0/16`
`09:16.14`	`Strom_C`	`I don't like the AGC/DSP stuff that my polycom does`
`09:16.23`	`Strom_C`	`TimothyP: yeah, you can do that easily`
`09:17.22`	`TimothyP`	`ok so far I haven't been given any reasons not to use asterisk as opposed to another hardware solution`
`09:18.13`	`Strom_C`	`the reasons are few and far between`
`09:18.38`	`Strom_C`	`usually the only reasons for going with legacy stuff are:`
`09:18.55`	`Strom_C`	`- client is uncomfortable with doing a roll-your-own solution`
`09:19.11`	`Strom_C`	`- client wants support from [big company] instead of [you, the consultant]`
`09:19.17`	`TimothyP`	`well the thing is, we're starting from scratch :)`
`09:19.35`	`Strom_C`	`- client has legacy equipment already that has to be interfaced with in some weirdo quirky way`
`09:19.35`	`TimothyP`	`So all servers will be Linux :) (as I prefer it for most small businesses)`
`09:19.44`	`TimothyP`	`there is no equipment whatsoever :)`
`09:19.55`	`Strom_C`	`then you have no reason not to use asterisk :)`
`09:20.21`	`TimothyP`	`clients will NOT use microsoft office, but I cannot defend the use of linux on their desktops (although I use ubuntu on my desktop 100%)`
`09:20.41`	`TimothyP`	`well the only reason I could think of maybe is that Ihave to learn it fast and get it working: )`
`09:20.56`	`Strom_C`	`how much time do you have before you need to be in production with this thing?`
`09:21.03`	`TimothyP`	`but that's hardly a reason, that's more of a reason to do it :p`
`09:21.20`	`TimothyP`	`a few weeks , to start with 4 phones`
`09:21.29`	`TimothyP`	`4 internal, and two lines to the outside world`
`09:22.11`	`TimothyP`	`is it correct there's a different between an IP telefphone and a SIP capable telephone?`
`09:22.15`	`Strom_C`	`if you only have a few weeks, you /might/ want to consider hiring a consultant to point you in the right directin`
`09:22.30`	`Strom_C`	`all SIP phones are IP phones, but not all IP phones are SIP phones.`
`09:22.42`	`TimothyP`	`so an IP phone might use another protocol`
`09:22.47`	`Strom_C`	`s/directin/direction/`
`09:23.06`	`TimothyP`	`as I was thinking of getting phones that support SIP and Skype (as they want to use skype for some customers)`
`09:23.09`	`Strom_C`	`yeah, you'll find IP phones that speak H.323, MGCP, SCCP, and so on`
`09:23.14`	`Strom_C`	`oh ew blech yech`
`09:23.17`	`TimothyP`	`:p`
`09:23.21`	`Strom_C`	`skype == the dismalest`
`09:23.24`	`Strom_C`	`don't touch that`
`09:23.28`	`Strom_C`	`yech eww barf`
`09:23.32`	`TimothyP`	`they are already contaminated :p`
`09:23.48`	`Strom_C`	`and "yech eww barf" is my professional opinion, btw`
`09:23.51`	`TimothyP`	`any reason to use H.323 isntead of SIP for example ?`
`09:23.57`	`Strom_C`	`no`
`09:24.04`	`Strom_C`	`unless you really like headaches`
`09:24.04`	`TimothyP`	`that's very good to hear :)`
`09:24.11`	`TimothyP`	`huh?`
`09:24.20`	`TimothyP`	`oh H.323 gives headaches :p`
`09:24.40`	`TimothyP`	`ok I'm really guessing now but`
`09:24.41`	`TimothyP`	`:)`
`09:24.41`	`tzafrir`	`H323 is legacy. And very badly designed.`
`09:24.42`	`Muck-`	`TimothyP have a look at that: http://realtime-voip.typepad.com/voipcommunity/2006/09/pika_and_asteri.html`
`09:24.54`	`TimothyP`	`will do :)`
`09:25.02`	`Muck-`	`but i wouldn't integrate skype`
`09:25.03`	`Muck-`	`... :P`
`09:25.46`	`TimothyP`	`let's say that we have that asterisk up and running (I always type asterix :p) and someone wants to call us , but he is connected to the internet. could he call us over the internet then , so not paying any costs, with an SIP client ?`
`09:26.00`	`Strom_C`	`yes`
`09:26.09`	`TimothyP`	`ok sweet :)`
`09:26.41`	`TimothyP`	`and then , really pusing it now. I'm somewhere else on the internet. I connect via SIP to our asterisk over the internet, can I make landline calls then ? via that asterisk computer?`
`09:27.16`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`anyone using channelbank rhino CB-24 with asterisk ?`
`09:27.17`	`Strom_C`	`yes, though i'd recommend that you do some serious VPN tunneling or good SIP authentication on that one`
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`09:27.23`	`Ahrimanes`	`TimothyP: if the asterisk has pstn connection`
`09:27.48`	`Muck-`	`can someone tell me if it's possible to connect isdn phones to an asterisk via an eicon diva server that uses capi?`
`09:27.49`	`TimothyP`	`ISDN as well?`
`09:27.54`	`Strom_C`	`TimothyP: yep`
`09:28.02`	`TimothyP`	`good because all I got is 2 ISDN lines`
`09:28.05`	`TimothyP`	`hey but this is great`
`09:28.09`	`Strom_C`	`TimothyP: digium has PRI and BRI interface cards :)`
`09:28.16`	`Muck-`	`because i only see zapata and hfc cards for that in all the tutorials`
`09:28.21`	`TimothyP`	`usually when I ask something on an open source project it's like nope we can't do this we can't do that`
`09:28.31`	`TimothyP`	`all I get from you guys is YES YES YES :p`
`09:28.45`	`Strom_C`	`we're yes-men!`
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`09:29.06`	`TimothyP`	`this is so cool , I use my laptop somewhere in the world I want to call my girlfriend so I simply use an SIP softphone :p`
`09:29.20`	`angryuser`	`good day`
`09:29.26`	`Sir_Diddymus`	`TimothyP: ...and she thinks you're in the office... ;)`
`09:29.27`	`Ahrimanes`	`TimothyP: yeah and save a bundle of cash :)`
`09:29.42`	`TimothyP`	`Sir_Diddymus, omg :) haden't tought of it that way :p`
`09:30.28`	`TimothyP`	`one thing I forgot to ask, recording incoming and outgoing calls (only those that go over the ISDN lines)`
`09:30.58`	`Strom_C`	`yep`
`09:31.00`	`Strom_C`	`easy as pie`
`09:31.08`	`angryuser`	`can someone help me with vISDN configuration?`
`09:31.45`	`angryuser`	`i am unable to make channels to work;)`
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`09:33.40`	`angryuser`	`i have putted udev rules recompiled aster, got new commands, made device-pci-file, but visdn_configurator gives me this "asterisk:/usr/sbin # ./visdn_configurator`
`09:33.40`	`angryuser`	`ioctl(IOC_CREATE): File exists"`
`09:34.30`	`ChrisDE4`	`did anyone successfully send a fax with txfax yet?`
`09:35.17`	`angryuser`	`any ideas?:)`
`09:38.39`	`TimothyP`	`now without any special hardware, I have a computer with a few network cards in it, an ATA and a few softphones, can I do some testing with that or do I really need the specific hardware to start with?`
`09:39.36`	`tzafrir`	`The Digium BRI card uses the same HFC-4S chipset as the Junghanns card, but does not use the ZapBRI drivers`
`09:39.44`	`Strom_C`	`you dont need anything more to get started`
`09:40.01`	`TimothyP`	`so the special hardware is only to make outside calls`
`09:40.13`	`Strom_C`	`only to interface with PSTN circuits`
`09:40.14`	`TimothyP`	`and then if someone wants to call us over voIP it would be myusername@example.com`
`09:40.23`	`Strom_C`	`depends on the protocol you use`
`09:40.29`	`TimothyP`	`sip :)`
`09:40.48`	`Strom_C`	`you can have unauthenticated sip calls, yes`
`09:40.52`	`Cyt`	`Hi guys!! I'm looking for a dedicated server to host an Asterisk. I will have 10 extensions, 6 incomming lines and 5 outgoing lines. Do you guys think 1,500 GB of bandwidth is enough?`
`09:41.10`	`TimothyP`	`"unauthenticated"?`
`09:41.29`	`Strom_C`	`Cyt: how many minutes of traffic are you planning to handle every month?`
`09:41.34`	`tzafrir`	`not requireing an account on your user to talk to you`
`09:41.41`	`TimothyP`	`:)`
`09:41.52`	`tzafrir`	`TimothyP, think spamming`
`09:41.54`	`TimothyP`	`what Linux distro would you guys suggest to run it on :)`
`09:42.05`	`TimothyP`	`I'm used to ubuntu-server to be honest`
`09:42.06`	`Strom_C`	`whichever you like best`
`09:42.11`	`tzafrir`	`$YOUR_FAVOURITE_DISTRO`
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`09:42.18`	`TimothyP`	`oh I like that variable :p`
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`09:42.29`	`tzafrir`	`(I generally prefer Debian Stable)`
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`09:42.41`	`Strom_C`	`i'm a debian stable head too`
`09:42.51`	`Strom_C`	`but ubuntu isnt that far off from debian :)`
`09:42.51`	`Winkie`	`so guys, any reason why I get more than one Newchannel event for a single channel with the same name, uniqueid but different states?`
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`09:43.09`	`tzafrir`	`TimothyP, Ubuntu has Asterisk packages. However they are in Universe. That is: they are not officially supported`
`09:43.19`	`TimothyP`	`I love the universe :p`
`09:43.24`	`Cyt`	`Strom_C: 12.000 minutes per month`
`09:43.32`	`TimothyP`	`I only hate the backports they break a lot`
`09:43.49`	`Strom_C`	`Cyt: ok, one moment - let me calculate that`
`09:43.54`	`Strom_C`	`are you using SIP or IAX?`
`09:43.58`	`Cyt`	`SIP`
`09:44.00`	`tmjb`	`I would like to have 5 ISDN card (2 phone numbers) or more in one box is this posible with Asterisk?`
`09:44.02`	`Strom_C`	`ok`
`09:44.04`	`Strom_C`	`hang on please`
`09:44.10`	`Cyt`	`Thank you very much pal`
`09:44.23`	`tzafrir`	`TimothyP, bleeding edge breaks stuff. Debian Stable has a version of Asterisk that works.`
`09:44.39`	`TimothyP`	`I might very well try that then, I'll just take a pc to test it with`
`09:44.45`	`Winkie`	`none of you have Manager experience then? :)`
`09:44.53`	`TimothyP`	`Anybody know Ekiga ?`
`09:45.28`	`tzafrir`	`Or stick with the version in Ubuntu Dapper. Or whatever.`
`09:45.44`	`grexk`	`Im using Ekiga`
`09:45.51`	`TimothyP`	`works good?`
`09:45.56`	`tengulre`	`HI,all I wrote a asterisk manager tool, http://www.megacomm.com.cn/download/asteriskmanager.rar , download it if you want!`
`09:46.08`	`grexk`	`Sometimes`
`09:46.24`	`TimothyP`	`tengulre, done :)`
`09:46.37`	`tengulre`	`:)`
`09:46.54`	`Winkie`	`tengulre: what does it do?`
`09:47.08`	`jhiver`	`i have problem installing asterisk-h323 from http://pkg-voip.buildserver.net/debian`
`09:47.29`	`tengulre`	`Winkie: manage & monitor & Config under MS platform.`
`09:47.51`	`jhiver`	`it says is depends from libsasl2 (>= 2.1.19.dfsg1) but 2.1.19-1.5sarge1 needs to be installed`
`09:48.16`	`E-bola`	`Have anybody used microsoft crm with asterisk?`
`09:48.50`	`Winkie`	`tengulre: so what does it actually do? Can you monitor live channels etc?`
`09:49.02`	`Strom_C`	`Cyt: 12000 minutes at full bitrate audio with SIP is only 7200 megabytes per month`
`09:49.15`	`Cyt`	`Strom_G`
`09:49.20`	`Cyt`	`Strom_C: thank you very much`
`09:49.31`	`Strom_C`	`very welcome`
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`09:53.24`	`Winkie`	`damnit there is no documentation on why this might be happening`
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`09:54.07`	`tzafrir`	`jhiver, looking...`
`09:54.33`	`tzafrir`	`that requirement is probably from the openh323 package`
`09:54.33`	`tengulre`	`Winkie: sure. click "tools/monitor status.`
`09:55.12`	`Winkie`	`tengulre: i can't, i'm on linux`
`09:55.28`	`Winkie`	`but if you're tracking calls etc, how have you handled getting several newchannel events for single channels?`
`09:55.30`	`tzafrir`	`huh? asterisk-h323 recommends asterisk-oh323 . I don't see Jerjer recommending that ;-)`
`09:55.40`	`TimothyP`	`Guys I must go now, but thank you very much for the information :)`
`09:56.01`	`tengulre`	`Winkie: oh, ! it's only running on windows`
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`09:57.50`	`axscode`	`hi guyz.. can anyone help me how to dial if i got an outgoing trunk already?`
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`09:59.54`	`Makenshi`	`Do you know of any free incoming fax providers in the uk?`
`10:00.02`	`tzafrir`	`jhiver, is this the recent version?`
`10:01.20`	`_phifli`	`Does anyone here play an acting role in developing in the SIP protocol?`
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`10:06.10`	`jhiver`	`tzafrir, i don't know, i've just pointed my apt-source to voip buildserver`
`10:06.34`	`jhiver`	`deb http://pkg-voip.buildserver.net/debian sarge main`
`10:06.40`	`tzafrir`	`so it's recent`
`10:06.42`	`jhiver`	`then did apt-get update`
`10:06.47`	`jhiver`	`apt-get upgrade`
`10:06.50`	`jhiver`	`then tried to install it`
`10:07.01`	`jhiver`	`using apt-get install asterisk-h323*`
`10:07.22`	`jhiver`	`is there a way to force the install?`
`10:07.35`	`hoshy`	`what error does apt give you ?`
`10:07.44`	`jhiver`	`Les paquets suivants contiennent des d\uffffpendances non satisfaites\uffff:`
`10:07.44`	`jhiver`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:07.46`	`hoshy`	`sorry - not follow whole conversation`
`10:08.16`	`jhiver`	`basically it says it depends on libsasl2 (>= 2.1.19.dfsg1) but 2.1.19-1.5sarge1 will need to be installed`
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`10:09.00`	`hoshy`	`let me check my system, I'm using debian also`
`10:09.08`	`jhiver`	`it's really silly since i have the /usr/lib/libsasl2.so.2.0.19 library already`
`10:09.27`	`hoshy`	`apt is great, but sometimes it's a pita`
`10:09.32`	`jhiver`	`yes`
`10:09.53`	`jhiver`	`is there a way to tell it "i know what i'm doing, install anyway" ?`
`10:10.04`	`jhiver`	`the first part might not be true, but... :)`
`10:10.12`	`hoshy`	`dpkg --force-depends <pkg>`
`10:10.22`	`hoshy`	`but that will break things in the long run`
`10:10.22`	`jhiver`	`ok so i need to download the deb first`
`10:10.28`	`jhiver`	`now how do i do that :)`
`10:10.50`	`hoshy`	`if you're asking it's safer to find a nice apt source that works for you :)`
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`10:11.10`	`tzafrir`	`but this will not full apt.`
`10:11.11`	`jhiver`	`i guess i need to find what's in the Packages`
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`10:11.20`	`tzafrir`	`s/full/fool/`
`10:11.26`	`hoshy`	`*system is booting, bear with me`
`10:11.59`	`hoshy`	`tzafrir: you're right. hence my warning about bgreaking things`
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`10:12.32`	`aadilismail`	`can anybody tell .... "can SIP support text msgs"?..`
`10:12.45`	`tzafrir`	`you could download the package, unpack it (using ar and tar), edit the control file, repack it and install it`
`10:13.03`	`bhrobinson`	`I have a multi line phone, the Linksys 941. How can I set it up so that there are 2 views for someone calling ext 201?`
`10:13.04`	`jhiver`	`oh yes that sounds nice`
`10:13.21`	`jhiver`	`so how do you unpack a .deb?`
`10:13.25`	`hoshy`	`jhiver: ar -x <pkg> will do it`
`10:13.26`	`tzafrir`	`hey, I even managed to write it in one line.`
`10:13.41`	`hoshy`	`you get data.tgz and control.tgz, the files you need are in control.tgx`
`10:13.44`	`hoshy`	`tgz`
`10:14.17`	`aadilismail`	`can anybody tell .... "can SIP support text msgs"?..`
`10:14.47`	`tzafrir`	`BTW: if you need to change the contents of a the archive itself, it is preffered to repack using dpkg-deb`
`10:14.56`	`hoshy`	`go on then tzafrir show us how it's done`
`10:15.02`	`bhrobinson`	`anyone on the multi line phone?`
`10:15.29`	`hoshy`	`sorry bhrobinson: I have an SPA942 but I only use single line`
`10:15.42`	`aadilismail`	`can anybody tell .... "can SIP support text msgs"?..`
`10:16.14`	`Dr-Linux`	`aadilismail: i think yes`
`10:16.19`	`hoshy`	`deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main contrib non-free`
`10:16.21`	`jhiver`	`wget http://pkg-voip.buildserver.net/debian/pool/main/a/asterisk/asterisk-h323_1.2.11.dfsg-0.sarge.2331_i386.deb`
`10:16.22`	`axscode`	`aadilismail: yes... depends on the client`
`10:16.25`	`jhiver`	`got ya :)`
`10:16.28`	`bhrobinson`	`hoshy, how do you handle multiple people calling?`
`10:16.36`	`hoshy`	`jhiver: I used the above to get *`
`10:17.23`	`jhiver`	`these?`
`10:17.28`	`hoshy`	`bhrobinsion: it's not been an issue yet`
`10:17.30`	`jhiver`	`and you have a working h323?`
`10:17.32`	`*** part/#asterisk grexk (n=grexk@124.107.72.45)`
`10:17.40`	`jhiver`	`as for asterisk i plan to compile it`
`10:17.56`	`hoshy`	`jhiver: not sure if the h323 stuff is in there to be honest - only just seen that's what you want`
`10:17.57`	`jhiver`	`i only want the debs for h323 because it's so impossible to compile :)`
`10:18.20`	`jhiver`	`i have wierd issues with ooh323c as well`
`10:18.23`	`hoshy`	`ah :)`
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`10:18.39`	`jhiver`	`ooh323c works well for inbound, chan_h323 works good for outbound, go figure`
`10:18.40`	`hoshy`	`i see - excuse me then. there's only oh323 in that repos`
`10:18.57`	`jhiver`	`oh323... don't want to go there :)`
`10:19.05`	`jhiver`	`doesn't scale at all`
`10:19.12`	`hoshy`	`no - tell a lie!!! - it h323 is in there`
`10:19.13`	`RoyK`	`omg323`
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`10:19.34`	`hoshy`	`deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main contrib non-free`
`10:19.37`	`hoshy`	`check it out`
`10:19.41`	`jhiver`	`what version of asterisk is it?`
`10:19.43`	`hoshy`	`asterisk-h323`
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`10:20.46`	`jhiver`	`that worked hoshy !`
`10:20.47`	`hoshy`	`ah - it's debian being silly again. asterisk-h323 is the 1.0 branch oh323 package`
`10:20.48`	`jhiver`	`cool`
`10:20.56`	`hoshy`	`really?`
`10:21.05`	`jhiver`	`D\uffffpaquetage de asterisk-h323 (\uffff partir de .../asterisk-h323_1%3a1.0.7.dfsg.1-2sarge3_i386.deb) ...`
`10:21.23`	`jhiver`	`dpkg -L asterisk-h323`
`10:21.24`	`jhiver`	`/usr/share`
`10:21.24`	`jhiver`	`/usr/share/doc`
`10:21.24`	`jhiver`	`/usr/share/doc/asterisk-h323`
`10:21.26`	`jhiver`	`/usr/share/doc/asterisk-h323/copyright`
`10:21.28`	`jhiver`	`/usr/share/doc/asterisk-h323/changelog.Debian.gz`
`10:21.32`	`jhiver`	`/usr/share/doc/asterisk-h323/changelog.gz`
`10:21.34`	`jhiver`	`no .so module?`
`10:21.36`	`jhiver`	`wtf?`
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`10:21.39`	`Winkie`	`don't spam that sort of thing dude`
`10:21.50`	`jhiver`	`sorry, it didn't look that big`
`10:21.52`	`hoshy`	`yeah, check the pkg description it's not what you want.`
`10:21.58`	`hoshy`	`sorry about that`
`10:22.03`	`jhiver`	`daaah :)`
`10:22.09`	`hoshy`	`hehe`
`10:22.38`	`hoshy`	`you could always download the required sasl lib separately, install that, then h323`
`10:23.35`	`jhiver`	`ok i have changed the control file...`
`10:23.43`	`jhiver`	`how do i repack the thing in a deb?`
`10:24.09`	`tzafrir`	`here goes`
`10:24.20`	`jhiver`	`tar zcvf control.tar.gz control md5sums`
`10:24.25`	`tzafrir`	`mkdir tmp`
`10:24.31`	`tzafrir`	`cd tmp`
`10:24.59`	`jhiver`	`ok...`
`10:25.10`	`tzafrir`	`ar p $DEB data.tar.gz \| tar xzf -`
`10:25.36`	`tzafrir`	`mkdir DEBIAN`
`10:26.02`	`tzafrir`	`ar p $DEB control.tar.gz \| tar xzf - -C DEBIAN`
`10:26.17`	`tzafrir`	`edit DEBIAN/control`
`10:26.41`	`RoyK`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:26.50`	`jhiver`	`wait`
`10:26.52`	`jhiver`	`i'm lost :)`
`10:27.26`	`RoyK`	`dd if=/dev/urandom of=tzafrir`
`10:27.40`	`hoshy`	`lol`
`10:27.42`	`jhiver`	`no )`
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`10:27.55`	`tzafrir`	`cd ..`
`10:28.04`	`tzafrir`	`dpkg -b tmp`
`10:28.30`	`tzafrir`	`dpkg-deb -b tmp`
`10:28.32`	`tzafrir`	`that is`
`10:29.17`	`jhiver`	`ok none of this makes any sense to me, so i'll take it step by step`
`10:29.26`	`jhiver`	`mkdir tmp`
`10:29.28`	`jhiver`	`cd tmp`
`10:29.50`	`jhiver`	`ar -x ../asterisk-h323_1.2.11.dfsg-0.sarge.2331_i386.deb`
`10:30.09`	`jhiver`	`i now have control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz, and debian-binary`
`10:30.21`	`jhiver`	`so i guess i need to untgz control.tar.gz`
`10:30.42`	`jhiver`	`produces two files: control and md5sums`
`10:30.48`	`jhiver`	`i change control`
`10:30.54`	`tzafrir`	`you need to modify the contents of control.tgz`
`10:31.10`	`tzafrir`	`But I don't remember if there is any checksum file. I figure not`
`10:31.19`	`jhiver`	`ok i changed the control file`
`10:31.29`	`jhiver`	`to remove libsasl2 dep, which is on my system anyway`
`10:31.34`	`tzafrir`	`that is: the md5sum is only for the files in data.tar.gz`
`10:32.01`	`jhiver`	`rm control.tar.gz`
`10:32.05`	`jhiver`	`tar zcvf control.tar.gz control md5sums`
`10:32.23`	`jhiver`	`rm control md5sums`
`10:32.24`	`tzafrir`	`right`
`10:32.33`	`jhiver`	`so now i have my 3 files again`
`10:32.34`	`tzafrir`	`and now repackage ar`
`10:32.42`	`jhiver`	`how does it work?`
`10:33.23`	`jhiver`	`ar q asterisk-h323.deb <files> ?`
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`10:33.29`	`tzafrir`	`ar r package.deb files`
`10:33.40`	`jhiver`	`ok`
`10:33.54`	`tzafrir`	`q should also do, I figure`
`10:34.04`	`jhiver`	`ar r asterisk-h323.deb control.tar.gz data.tar.gz debian-binary`
`10:34.38`	`jhiver`	`dpkg -i asterisk-h323.deb`
`10:34.45`	`jhiver`	`hurray!`
`10:34.49`	`jhiver`	`it doesn't work!`
`10:34.50`	`jhiver`	`:)`
`10:35.26`	`jhiver`	`"asterisk-h323.deb is not a binary archive debian (try dpkg-split?)"`
`10:35.54`	`jhiver`	`ok, actually`
`10:36.02`	`jhiver`	`i can just untar data.tar.gz`
`10:36.14`	`jhiver`	`and grab the chan_h323.so file in there...`
`10:36.18`	`jhiver`	`dirty but hey :)`
`10:40.43`	`hoshy`	`jhiver: it wouldn't be the first time I've done it :) in the past I've untar'd whole data.tgz files on to my fs`
`10:40.59`	`hoshy`	`not recommended but it's funny (not on a live server I'd like to point out)`
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`10:47.40`	`kink0`	`hello`
`10:48.18`	`kink0`	`a question about g729 codec license, I am ussing license bought from Digium, and I know there a free g729 license, what are your sugestions ?`
`10:48.49`	`kink0`	`is better going buying more licenses from Digium or I will lose nothing ( quality and so ) if try the free ones.`
`10:52.31`	`tzafrir`	`there is no free g729 license. There is an implementation that uses a g729 code by Intel. You need a separate license from Intel`
`10:52.56`	`tzafrir`	`That license from Intel is not cheaper, to say the least`
`10:53.38`	`kink0`	`tzafrir: sorry, you are right, is not free, but any technical or quality differences ? I have actually in use 26 digum licences and I will need at least 30 more`
`10:53.52`	`jhiver`	`guys i can't believe these deps`
`10:53.54`	`tzafrir`	`jhiver, ar t newpakg.deb`
`10:54.30`	`jhiver`	`asterisk-h323 depends on libopenh323-1.18.0 which depends on xfree86-common (!)`
`10:54.47`	`jhiver`	`so if i want h323 i need to install X? wow :)`
`10:55.01`	`tzafrir`	`you need xlibs, not X`
`10:55.10`	`kink0`	`jhiver: install only the required libs, that is what i did`
`10:55.22`	`jhiver`	`apt-get install libopenh323-1.18.0`
`10:55.26`	`jhiver`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:55.36`	`jhiver`	`this is what it pulls`
`10:55.48`	`tzafrir`	`jhiver, this is a good time for apt-get install -f`
`10:56.24`	`jhiver`	`yields no errors`
`10:56.33`	`tzafrir`	`libpt is a, well, very generic library.`
`10:56.57`	`kink0`	`anywise I got several h323 related crashes, and really I am not sure if are due to xlib, openh323, pwlib, libpthread or libc... or all together.`
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`10:57.32`	`jhiver`	`yes there is no h323 stack that has been working like, /great/, so far`
`10:57.48`	`jhiver`	`which is a shame since 90% of carrier voip traffic is H323`
`10:58.23`	`jhiver`	`and asterisk pretends to be doing things like VoIP... but hey, H323 is a bitch and i have no right to moan i guess`
`10:58.35`	`kink0`	`jhiver: I minimize deadlocks and so removing things like checkcount in extensions`
`10:58.49`	`jhiver`	`checkcount?`
`10:58.53`	`jhiver`	`what's that?`
`10:59.09`	`jhiver`	`i had a deadlock issue with chan_h323 actually`
`10:59.22`	`jhiver`	`so any way to avoid this interests me :)`
`10:59.22`	`kink0`	`CheckGroup() , sorry`
`10:59.29`	`MacoStefX`	`re`
`10:59.51`	`kink0`	`any thing that see channels, did my uptimes was less than 30 minutes :(`
`11:00.04`	`jhiver`	`CheckGroup() ? never heard of it :)`
`11:00.10`	`kink0`	`once I removed CheckGroup for H323 calls, I got over 10 hours of uptime`
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`11:00.41`	`kink0`	`jhiver: is for limit the maximun H323 channels a peer can use, because the limits in my h323.conf does not works.`
`11:00.51`	`jhiver`	`ok i see`
`11:00.55`	`jhiver`	`i didn't use that at all`
`11:01.08`	`jhiver`	`i still had deadlock issues`
`11:01.31`	`kink0`	`jhiver: can you manage SIP calls while deadlock ?`
`11:01.42`	`jhiver`	`seems that worked yes`
`11:01.54`	`kink0`	`in my case, peers who used SIP still working fine, while H323 was completelly ignored`
`11:02.04`	`jhiver`	`because of deadlocks my ASR was about 40%`
`11:02.12`	`jhiver`	`when normally it's around 70%`
`11:02.27`	`kink0`	`jhiver: yes, same here... and when crash you can lost CDR`
`11:02.43`	`jhiver`	`now i'm setting up a box which will just handle outgoing h323 calls with a minimal dialplan`
`11:02.45`	`kink0`	`and when that happens , also a lot of threads , even thousands`
`11:03.15`	`jhiver`	`and for incoming h323 i will use ooh323c because it forwards early audio, which chan_h323 doesn't`
`11:03.38`	`jhiver`	`but i'm using this on a different box... one for incoming h323, one for outgoing h323`
`11:03.42`	`kink0`	`jhiver: I did this to no lose the CDR : when there over 300 threads, H323 transit is stoped ussing iptables, then calls in curse are hanged, once hanged and CDR'd I restart asterisk`
`11:04.10`	`jhiver`	`how many channels worth of traffic is that?`
`11:04.32`	`kink0`	`I actually use up to 56 channels ( near 2 E1 )`
`11:05.02`	`jhiver`	`that's like so small... damn, i need an asterisk box per E1 almost to be on the safe side`
`11:05.43`	`kink0`	`one box for every e1 ? due to coding ?`
`11:05.48`	`jhiver`	`i've asked diana from yate.null.ro to install yate + yateadmin on one of my servers, i hope it'll scale better than this...`
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`11:06.01`	`jhiver`	`well no, if you're having issues with 2 E1s of traffic already...`
`11:06.03`	`jhiver`	`then...`
`11:06.15`	`kink0`	`I use a dual xeon 3, and have not problem with load`
`11:06.31`	`jhiver`	`yes but you have lock issues right?`
`11:06.45`	`kink0`	`no, the problem with H323 deadlock are not related how much E1 I use, really the box has a quad E1 Digium card.`
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`11:06.49`	`axscode`	`kippi: whats the exact Modem of Dual Xeon?`
`11:06.54`	`axscode`	`Model i meant`
`11:07.03`	`kink0`	`yes, but that happens even if only fews channels are in use`
`11:07.07`	`jhiver`	`i thought you had 2 E1s of H323 traffic`
`11:07.34`	`axscode`	`kink0: whats the exact Model of Quad E1 Digium CARD and the Dual Xeon?`
`11:07.48`	`kink0`	`axscode: I am ussing supermicro X5DAL or so, I can see if you are interesting what exxact model of motherboard`
`11:08.00`	`jhiver`	`and has not using CheckGroup killed this issue alltogether or just made it slightly better?`
`11:08.12`	`kink0`	`the Digium is TE401 card, setting on BIOS at fixed clocking 33Mhz`
`11:08.32`	`axscode`	`SuperMicro X5DAL <--- this comes with Dual Xeon 3 and mother board?`
`11:08.44`	`kink0`	`jhiver: significanly better , then do not crash with that errors, but sometime crash with other errors.`
`11:09.00`	`jhiver`	`oh so it /crashes/ ? great...`
`11:09.12`	`axscode`	`kink0: if i have that setup.. can i have 100 concurrent calls of sip?`
`11:09.12`	`jhiver`	`sounds like i'm gonna have a pretty hard time at this :)`
`11:09.18`	`kink0`	`axscode: no, X5DAL is just the motherboard`
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`11:09.42`	`jhiver`	`axscode, i run 50 concurrent sip calls on a really old sempron box`
`11:09.47`	`jhiver`	`so yes i would guess`
`11:09.51`	`kink0`	`axscode: the full system is a Superserver ... I need to see what, I have dual 3Ghz Xeon IV on it,`
`11:10.04`	`kink0`	`with Hyperthreading enabled ( yess !! sound rare )`
`11:10.11`	`kink0`	`and a RAID5 SCSI system.`
`11:10.36`	`kink0`	`the CPU/RAM and bus consumption is due mainly to codes`
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`11:14.27`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`in sip it detect that the node is lag if it passes 2000ms how to modify this value ?`
`11:15.33`	`CtRiX`	`qualify=XXXX`
`11:15.48`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`got it`
`11:15.49`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`thx ;-)`
`11:15.54`	`CtRiX`	`sip.conf.sample has the explanation...`
`11:16.38`	`lostbob`	`hi guys. I am trying to connect to asterisk using asterisk -r and it keeps saying "Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) ". Asterisk is definitively running because I can make calls... Does anyone know why this would be?`
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`11:17.08`	`_phifli`	`maybe you do not have the right security to open the file, or it doesn't exist`
`11:17.49`	`lostbob`	`hum. that could be it but I am logged in as root`
`11:18.58`	`lostbob`	`Asterisk seems to start when the computer boots. Could this be the problem?`
`11:19.33`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`CtRiX: i got it from voip-info what i can't get how i'm going plug the Rhino CB-24 Channel Bank`
`11:19.36`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`:D`
`11:19.53`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`lostbob: check /var/log/asterisk/full`
`11:20.13`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`lostbob: and try to be root when u connect to asterisk`
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`11:20.47`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`lostbob: if it's geting up by init then yes u should be root or have permissions`
`11:21.49`	`lostbob`	`DarKnes5_WolF: there doesn't seem to a full log and not much in the other logs`
`11:23.02`	`lostbob`	`I am also logged in as root. Is there a way of checking how asterisk it running?`
`11:28.33`	`lilalinux`	`I heard from the new jabber integration in the upcoming release`
`11:28.43`	`lilalinux`	`is it that one: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Jabber ?`
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`11:30.39`	`tparcina`	`hi channel`
`11:33.14`	`tparcina`	`i have queue with static members. problem is that asterisk shows that agents are Unavailable. Qouestion, do static agents need to login and how?`
`11:33.43`	`DarKnesS_WolF`	`lilalinux: not sure but yes 1.4.x should support jabber network and sure google talk`
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`11:36.44`	`aadilismail`	`new at asterisk,,,, ((which version shud be instaled 1st,))))?`
`11:36.50`	`aadilismail`	`new at asterisk,,,, ((which version shud be instaled 1st,))))?`
`11:36.55`	`aadilismail`	`new at asterisk,,,, ((which version shud be instaled 1st,))))?`
`11:37.20`	`moon06`	`aadilismail, last one`
`11:37.51`	`tparcina`	`anybody uses queue wuth static members?`
`11:37.57`	`aadilismail`	`so reslut :):):) don't try to do this`
`11:38.12`	`aadilismail`	`new at asterisk,,,, ((which version shud be instaled 1st,))))?`
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`11:39.31`	`ken___`	`yo, got a problem -- chan_zap.so isn't compiling or installing with Asterisk`
`11:39.40`	`tparcina`	`aadilismail: no one will answer you since you flood the channel.`
`11:39.41`	`ken___`	`anyone know why it's not compiling ?`
`11:40.21`	`tzafrir`	`ken___, what version?`
`11:40.50`	`tzafrir`	`aadilismail, http://voip-info.org/`
`11:40.54`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: not sure, 1.2 something -- i pulled it from svn head`
`11:41.25`	`tzafrir`	`ken___, svn trunk ? branches/1.2? tags/1.2.12?`
`11:41.25`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: Asterisk SVN-branch-1.2-r39081M currently running on phsrv01`
`11:41.29`	`aadilismail`	`Asterisk Downloads`
`11:41.33`	`aadilismail`	`Version 1.2`
`11:41.33`	`aadilismail`	`Asterisk Version 1.2.12.1`
`11:41.33`	`aadilismail`	`Zaptel Version 1.2.9.1`
`11:41.33`	`aadilismail`	`Libpri Version 1.2.3`
`11:41.33`	`aadilismail`	`Addons Version 1.2.4`
`11:41.34`	`aadilismail`	`Sounds Version 1.2.1`
`11:41.38`	`aadilismail`	`from where i initiate?`
`11:41.58`	`lilalinux`	`DarKnesS_WolF: got it, looks like these add ons are no longer needed then`
`11:42.02`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: i believe i took it from 1.2.5 tag, but i'm not 100% positive`
`11:42.04`	`lilalinux`	`"Note: Asterisk 1.4 will come with native jingle support, so this third-party solution is not needed once 1.4 has been released."`
`11:42.14`	`tzafrir`	`aadilismail, what you're doing is called flooding. It is generally a bad thing to paste more than 3 lines`
`11:42.26`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: it really shouldn't matter too much -- chan_zap just isn't compiling, and i have no idea why it isn't`
`11:42.32`	`tzafrir`	`aadilismail, try: /msg jbot pastebin`
`11:43.02`	`aadilismail`	`sorry guys`
`11:44.04`	`tzafrir`	`aadilismail, anyway, those are links to tar archives`
`11:44.33`	`tzafrir`	`ken___, you need zaptel`
`11:44.52`	`tzafrir`	`what zaptel hardware do you have?`
`11:44.56`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: i have a tdm400`
`11:45.16`	`tzafrir`	`so you don't have to have libpri`
`11:45.20`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: i've compiled asterisk many, many times ;) just ran into this odd program`
`11:45.22`	`tzafrir`	`What error do you get?`
`11:45.38`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: no errors, at least i haven't checked the build message -- it's just not compiling it`
`11:46.05`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: but asterisk is compiling fine and installing, just don't know why it's choosing to leave out chan_zap`
`11:46.07`	`tzafrir`	`It seems that it fails to find zaptel`
`11:46.23`	`tzafrir`	`is zaptel installed?`
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`11:46.49`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: ok, so what is it looking for ? zaptel is definitely installed, both /dev/zap and /proc/zaptel are reporting correctly, and ztcfg works just fine`
`11:47.20`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: and yes, wctdm and zaptel are loaded correctly in the kernel`
`11:47.28`	`tzafrir`	`It probably looks for zaptel.h (/usr/include/zaptel.h )`
`11:48.54`	`tparcina`	`static queue members, anybody?`
`11:48.55`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: when i built and did a make && make install nothing got put in /usr/include/`
`11:49.07`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: what's the build command that puts that header there ?`
`11:50.01`	`tparcina`	`my static agents in queue are unavaiable. how to make them avaiable?`
`11:50.01`	`ken___`	`er, tzafrir: scratch that, there's a /usr/include/zaptel/ directory`
`11:50.11`	`tzafrir`	`ken___, check in channels/Makefile`
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`11:50.52`	`tzafrir`	`Look for chan_zap . There is a certain test it applies to test if it should build it`
`11:51.12`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: chan_zap.so definitely does not exist`
`11:52.26`	`tzafrir`	`right. are you sure you have /usr/include/zaptel.h ?`
`11:53.06`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: not /usr/include/zaptel.h there's /usr/include/zaptel/zaptel.h`
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`11:54.02`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: anyways, i think some path information is messed up in the build process, i'll just symlink the file`
`11:54.28`	`tzafrir`	`ken___, any chance you have zaptel from trunk?`
`11:54.45`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: maybe ?`
`11:54.53`	`tparcina`	`come on folks, there must be somebody that uses queue!`
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`11:55.00`	`tparcina`	`and who can help me`
`11:55.06`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: i checked this out a while back, i just didn't connect phone lines to this box until today`
`11:55.27`	`tzafrir`	`tparcina, not me. However, you better queue your question`
`11:55.34`	`ken___`	`tzafrir: but i'm sure that i was consistent with my checkout though, so if i got one from trunk, i got all from trunk -- or if i got one from a tag, they all came from a tag`
`11:56.51`	`tparcina`	`tzafrir: well, question is - why are my static agents unavaiable?`
`11:58.48`	`tzafrir`	`tparcina, thank you for joining #asterisk-users. Please hold. Our experts will join you as soon as possible`
`11:59.54`	`tzafrir`	`http://karlsbakk.net/fun/Helpdesk.wav (thanks to RoyK )`
`12:00.14`	`Strom_C`	`Please continue to hold. All experts are currently sleeping, eating, on calls with paying clients, or wanking off. Your problem will be attended to as soon as possible.`
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`12:04.26`	`S^P`	`hi, is it possible for asterisk to dial an SIP user and forward an extension to it? or wait for a while and then dial extension on a sip channel?`
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`12:07.32`	`niter3`	`Hey guys.. I'm looking at transfering some of my calls to outside lines and other SIP users. So far what I have found is that i need to program a dial plan for each destination transfer. Is there not way to just enable transfering to everyone on the PBX and outside the PBX? I don't like the idea of programming one person at a time.`
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`12:11.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`someone jumping the gun here? Don't see anything official about 1.4 being released... http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3631546`
`12:12.05`	`axscode`	`hey guyz..`
`12:12.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`niter3: What do you mean "SOME" of your calls to the outside?`
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`12:12.36`	`axscode`	`can someone help me.... can u create a dial-plan for me? i want to call to another asterisk server using SIP.. can anyone help me with that?`
`12:13.04`	`Druken`	`how much ?`
`12:13.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`axscode: Do you need to authenticate to call them?`
`12:13.17`	`\|Vulture\|`	`[TK]D-Fender: well unified messaging is welcome especially with Exchange 2007 on its way`
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`12:14.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`\|Vulture\|: UM is a very generic term in and of itself. And my point was the premature use of * 1.4 being released. Originally linked from : http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Asterisk_1_4_Released_And_a_New_GUI_is_on_the_way`
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`12:19.14`	`niter3`	`Basically what I'm asking is from what I have found on the Internet related to transfering calls i have to actualling program in my extensions.conf the destination of each user. Well I would like to transfer calls to everyone including people on the PSTN. Can this be accomplished instead of programming and enabling each extension that is allowed to be transfered.. EX: ( exten => 114,1,Transfer(SIP/555) ???`
`12:20.06`	`niter3`	`possible - exten => 114,1,Transfer()`
`12:20.07`	`mut`	`and to think`
`12:20.08`	`niter3`	`?`
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`12:20.17`	`mut`	`i'm still running a CVS from september of 2005`
`12:22.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`niter3: I think you need to clarify what you mean by "transfer" and "some" (as that implies only some specific incoming calls will be transferred).`
`12:22.30`	`Vahan`	`niter3: google / voip-info.org for dbput / dbget functions to store your source-destination and transfer accordingly to a dbget-ed address`
`12:22.42`	`niter3`	`[TK]D-Fender: I want to be able to hit my transfer button and transfer anyone i'm talking to to anyone.`
`12:22.52`	`mut`	`mornin all`
`12:23.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`niter3: you can transfer them to anything you can dial as per your dialplan....`
`12:23.19`	`mut`	`tk, ever done any testing on chan_ss7?`
`12:23.23`	`Vahan`	`what [TK]D-Fender said`
`12:23.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mut: Nope`
`12:23.30`	`mut`	`hm`
`12:23.33`	`mut`	`k`
`12:24.10`	`mut`	`anyone watching nasa tv, they broadcasting the spacewalk`
`12:24.23`	`niter3`	`Well like I have said, what I have found is that you need to program in your extensioins.conf - exten => 114,1,Transfer(SIP/user) which will only allow me to transfer to one person.`
`12:25.44`	`Vahan`	`niter3: you can transfer to any exten that you have mapped. e.g. if you have _00X. , you can transfer to that too :)`
`12:28.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`niter3: That isn't the point of that function. You seem sadly confused about how transfer works on a SIP phone.`
`12:28.30`	`niter3`	`Vahan: Yes but I have to program a extension for each destination transfer according to this.`
`12:28.30`	`Vahan`	`niter3: you don't need a separate extension created...`
`12:28.30`	`Vahan`	`niter3: no`
`12:28.30`	`Vahan`	`niter3: you need to understand how transfer works on SIP UACs`
`12:28.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`niter3: Get that function out of your head!`
`12:28.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`niter3: What phone do you have?`
`12:28.30`	`Vahan`	`niter3: when you hit transfer, basically you tell to dial another extension and connect endpoints`
`12:28.30`	`Vahan`	`so if you have dialplan that allows you to dial A, B, C, D extensions, that means that you can transfer anyone to A, B, C, D`
`12:28.30`	`S^P`	`hi, is it possible for asterisk to dial an SIP user and forward an extension to it? or wait for a while and then dial extension on a sip channel?`
`12:29.08`	`niter3`	`Ok so i don't need to do any additonal work in the extensions.conf I just simply hit the transfer button.. So this is dependent on the client phone then?`
`12:29.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`niter3: Yes`
`12:30.04`	`niter3`	`ok...`
`12:30.11`	`Winkie`	`hey guys, when a queue phones a particular member, does it set any variables which refer to the initial call?`
`12:30.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`niter : with most phones the process looks like {transfer], (get second dial tone), enter the destination (anything you are allowed to dial), and then [transfer] again or hangup.`
`12:30.22`	`Winkie`	`i need to track unanswered member calls via CDR`
`12:30.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`niter3: Read your phone's manual.`
`12:30.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: Can you reword that a bit....`
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`12:30.54`	`niter3`	`[TK]D-Fender: I don't actually have a phone with a transfer button. I have a linksys pap2 adapter`
`12:30.58`	`niter3`	`that's why I don't know`
`12:31.18`	`niter3`	`So let me ask you, why in the world would you want to use the transfer function in Asterisk?`
`12:31.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`niter3: Read its manual. Its probably [flash] destination #, wait for ringing, [hangup].`
`12:32.11`	`S^P`	`[TK]D-Fender: my asterisk is connected to a SIP device which contains FXS ports, when i forward a call like this SIP/joe/1234 , it hangs up and says no circuit.`
`12:32.16`	`Druken`	`pap2 uses flash, yes....`
`12:32.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`niter3: The only time you want it is when you want to use SIP reinvites to completely remove * from the audiopath and throw the call out of your PBX entirely to go to another for instance.`
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`12:32.42`	`phpboy`	`Sep 13 12:27:19 NOTICE[8188]: rtp.c:332 process_rfc3389: Comfort noise support incomplete in Asterisk (RFC 3389). Please turn off on client if possible. Client IP: 192.168.16.156`
`12:32.53`	`S^P`	`[TK]D-Fender: I wana dial an extension on a SIP channel like we do with ZAP/1/1234 etc....`
`12:33.01`	`phpboy`	`will that problem cause any issues on a phone call.. echo's for example?`
`12:33.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: "SIP/joe/1234" looks nothing like "forwarding" to me. Pastebin your dialplan and tell me what line you are talking about.`
`12:33.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~pb`
`12:33.27`	`jbot`	`i heard pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ (BROKEN AND SUCKING NUTS), or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/, or http://paste.lisp.org/ for the lisp/scheme nuts, or http://paste-it.net`
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`12:33.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`phpboy: Shouldn't. Echo is typically only related to PSTN termination.`
`12:34.40`	`S^P`	`http://paste-it.net/245`
`12:35.00`	`niter3`	`[TK]D-Fender: But transfering with your phone should do the same thing once you release the call should it not?`
`12:35.05`	`phpboy`	`[TK]D-Fender: ah ok, I'm getting echo's from on my PSTN related calls... I've tried everything suggested on voip-info.org and to no avail :<`
`12:35.20`	`S^P`	`[TK]D-Fender: I just wana dial an extension on SIP channel.`
`12:35.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`niter3: No, The Transfer application removes the call from your PBX ENTIRELY.`
`12:36.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: the 1234 doesn't mean anything.....`
`12:36.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: What is SIP/joe ?`
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`12:37.08`	`S^P`	`SIP/Joe is a user which is register to asterisk currently`
`12:37.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`niter3: When you use your phone's transfer feature you are sending the call to a destination ON your server. If part of your dialplan calls the Transfer app that will cause your * box to get rid of the call and tell them go somewhere else entirely.`
`12:37.44`	`S^P`	`if i only dial a call to SIP/joe it goes there but when i use SIP/joe/1234 it dont work.`
`12:38.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: A SIP phone doesn't HAVE an extensions, and you are supposed to refer to that device as SIP/joe.`
`12:39.09`	`creativx`	`an extension is not a device`
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`12:40.02`	`S^P`	`as i mentioned prevoiusly, I have a FXS port device which is conntec to asterisk using SIP on ethernet port. I wana call SIP device and dial a number on that specific device`
`12:40.08`	`S^P`	`let say SIP/joe is that device`
`12:40.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`An extension is a number that can be dialed in your PBX from a caller that can reach that part of your dialplan.`
`12:40.26`	`S^P`	`furthur I wana dial 1234 on SIP/Joe`
`12:40.35`	`Winkie`	`anyone got any idea of whether app_queue sets any variables when it tries to phone a member?`
`12:40.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: The device does not HAVE a number.`
`12:41.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: You already know how to dial taht device. What more do you think you are missing?`
`12:41.32`	`S^P`	`"joe" is the number of that device.`
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`12:42.06`	`netstatic`	`hey, when is 1.4 scheduled to be released?`
`12:42.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: "joe" is the name you gave that device in sip.conf. You dial it just as direct as Dial(SIP/joe). end of story. There is nothing more to dialing a device than that for what you are talking about.`
`12:42.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`netstatic: "When its done"`
`12:43.13`	`netstatic`	`[TK]D-Fender: ah.. so no scheduled date then`
`12:43.16`	`S^P`	`[TK]D-Fender: that device is furthur connected to a PBX on FX0 port :(`
`12:43.27`	`S^P`	`PBX = not axterisk`
`12:43.32`	`S^P`	`asterisk*`
`12:43.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: When the other side picks up what do you get?`
`12:44.56`	`S^P`	`actually it goes all way to that pbx and IVR of that device activated`
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`12:45.18`	`S^P`	`but I wana skip that IVR by sending dial number to it.`
`12:45.37`	`S^P`	`instead of user to listen the IVR and dial a number`
`12:46.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: in * CLI do "show application dial" There is a parameter to allow you to pass DTMF after the call is connected that might work if you can dial the target immediately.`
`12:46.46`	`S^P`	`hmmmm`
`12:47.49`	`S^P`	`I'm searching for it but no luck :(`
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`12:49.04`	`S^P`	`ohh I got it`
`12:49.08`	`S^P`	`its -D.`
`12:49.37`	`S^P`	`Thanks [TK]D-Fender :)`
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`12:49.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: You need to read the big print a bit more....`
`12:49.57`	`frenzy`	`when does * 1.4 kick in the download section?`
`12:50.07`	`RoyK`	`frenzy: in a year or two`
`12:50.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`frenzy: It isn't released.`
`12:50.46`	`frenzy`	`http://www.digium.com/en/mediacenter/news/viewpress.php?id=Asterisk1.4`
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`12:51.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`frenzy: Unveiling doesn't mean released.`
`12:51.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Support and Availability`
`12:51.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Asterisk 1.4 will be available for download on Digium's website (www.digium.com) in October. Digium will also be demonstrating Asterisk 1.4 in Booth #819 at the Fall VON conference.`
`12:52.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BIG PRINT <------------`
`12:52.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`What wrong with everybody....`
`12:52.48`	`frenzy`	`the coffee won't dissolve`
`12:52.50`	`frenzy`	`:P`
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`12:53.37`	`coppice`	`anyone seen Pika's Skype <-> Asterisk link?`
`12:56.37`	`tzafrir`	`coppice, they say that it will be avialble in November`
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`12:57.04`	`coppice`	`is this a different one from what was on the mailing list?`
`12:57.12`	`tzafrir`	`yes`
`12:58.07`	`tzafrir`	`But does this mean we'll finally have a beta?`
`12:58.19`	`coppice`	`i've always found pika a pretty lousy company to deal with, though`
`12:58.22`	`tzafrir`	`userconf isn't merged in yet`
`12:58.50`	`coppice`	`will * 1.4 be out before Vista? :-)`
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`13:01.00`	`IvyUK`	`cls`
`13:01.09`	`IvyUK`	`doh`
`13:01.40`	`Winkie`	`has anyone had any experience with variables from queues?`
`13:02.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Winkie: What are you looking to do?`
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`13:02.43`	`Winkie`	`[TK]D-Fender: i have dynamic queue members and i need to match the CDR record for the inbound portion of the call with the CDR record for the member portion of the call`
`13:02.59`	`Winkie`	`I was hoping variables would be inherited as they're supposed to by using __WHATEVER but that doesn't seem to work`
`13:03.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Winkie: Queue callouts should create CDRs...`
`13:03.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`shouldn't*`
`13:03.57`	`Winkie`	`[TK]D-Fender: they seem to already, and do when answered. Plus it's the behavior i'd prefer`
`13:04.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Winkie: Ok, definately no clue on that...`
`13:04.48`	`myiagy`	`TDM implies digital line right?`
`13:05.05`	`myiagy`	`or did i get it all wrong? :P`
`13:05.24`	`Winkie`	`[TK]D-Fender: it's a real bitch because there's a bit of code in app_queue which seems to imply it's trying to inherit the right variables`
`13:06.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Winkie: How are your members added? Show me a precise example`
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`13:13.15`	`Winkie`	`[TK]D-Fender: oh sorry I didn't see your message`
`13:13.29`	`Winkie`	`they're simple AddQueueMember or whatevers, i'll PB it if you want :)`
`13:13.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Winkie: Please`
`13:13.59`	`Winkie`	`it's pretty much ripped from voip-info`
`13:15.08`	`Winkie`	`http://pastebin.ca/168918 .. it's just a test so ignore the fact it doesn't read an agent number or anthing`
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`13:16.16`	`Druken`	`where's the best place to buy myself a new 2u rack mounted server?`
`13:16.32`	`Winkie`	`dell, IBM etc?`
`13:16.52`	`Druken`	`i was lookin at dell....`
`13:17.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Dell is cheap junk. IBM X series....`
`13:17.36`	`ZX81`	`or supermicro`
`13:17.36`	`Winkie`	`dell is cheap junk a lot of the time but the cheapness can be useful`
`13:17.36`	`ZX81`	`we got a couple of racks full with no probs`
`13:17.39`	`ZX81`	`and supermicro are cheap`
`13:17.40`	`Winkie`	`our desktops were extremely cheap and work nicely`
`13:17.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`If you want a DIY SuperMicro is good stuff. If you want support then Dell.`
`13:17.58`	`mut`	`otherwise i dont like em`
`13:18.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Errr... IBM!`
`13:18.08`	`ZX81`	`diy?`
`13:18.12`	`ZX81`	`why diy?`
`13:18.15`	`ZX81`	`we bought them`
`13:18.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Do It Yourself`
`13:18.18`	`ZX81`	`two racks`
`13:18.23`	`ZX81`	`one had bad ram`
`13:18.29`	`ZX81`	`they came in, replaced in rack`
`13:18.31`	`ZX81`	`no probs`
`13:18.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ZX81: Who supports them?`
`13:18.37`	`ZX81`	`the resellers`
`13:18.45`	`ZX81`	`then mail supermicro if you have problems`
`13:18.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ZX81: Thats the catch,`
`13:18.51`	`ZX81`	`resellers here in Italy are good`
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`13:18.53`	`ZX81`	`:)`
`13:18.54`	`devel1`	`Hello!`
`13:18.58`	`ZX81`	`hello`
`13:19.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ZX81: SuperMicro leaves you to find a company to support you.`
`13:19.23`	`ZX81`	`well, whoever you bought the pc from`
`13:19.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ZX81: So if you want to save a few bucks they are great products, just not tier1 service`
`13:19.42`	`ZX81`	`yeah I guess`
`13:19.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ZX81: A question of priorities`
`13:19.54`	`ZX81`	`we've got over a year uptime on all but one box`
`13:19.57`	`Winkie`	`to be fair dell's support in the UK is appauling`
`13:20.01`	`ZX81`	`had the ram replaced in less than an hour`
`13:20.08`	`ZX81`	`on the one that died`
`13:20.10`	`Winkie`	`there's been plenty of stories of week delays on same-day support contracts`
`13:20.13`	`ZX81`	`so not too bad`
`13:20.14`	`ZX81`	`:)`
`13:20.21`	`Winkie`	`we try and maintain all our own stuff because of our low budget >:(`
`13:20.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Winkie: So in the exten taht your queue dials you tested all variants of the variable you are interested in?`
`13:20.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Winkie: I've done OK with Dell, but don't trust them much....`
`13:21.04`	`devel1`	`Please tell me, i am looking for the most simple sip proxy to install over win2003 NAT, to make calls from both inside and outside`
`13:21.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM".`
`13:21.16`	`Winkie`	`[TK]D-Fender: well the set is: exten => _XXXXXXXX,n,Set(__LOL=Test) and i've been setting the CDR account code to ${LOL} like this: exten => 1001,n,Set(CDR(accountcode)=${LOL})`
`13:21.16`	`devel1`	`just to forward rtp traffic`
`13:21.39`	`Muck-`	`is a eicon diva server in NT mode exactly the same as a normal S0 bus?`
`13:21.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Winkie: You got your __ backwards.`
`13:21.55`	`mut`	`yea we order all our own stuff too`
`13:21.57`	`Winkie`	`I did?`
`13:22.00`	`mut`	`get it from monarchcomputer`
`13:22.14`	`Muck-`	`so if the cables and ntba and telephone works on my S0 bus, it should work on the ISDN card too?`
`13:22.22`	`mut`	`i think they like us, they've sent us thank you letters and called us to tank em before`
`13:22.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Winkie: You set it as "lol" before the second call, and reference as "_lol" inside that second call.`
`13:22.30`	`mut`	`spending $7000 in one swing`
`13:23.32`	`Winkie`	`[TK]D-Fender: i'm confused, setting __LOL to Test is done immediately before the Queue command, the CDR account code is set as the second priority in the agent extension, according to http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+variables i shouldn't use any __s when retrieving it`
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`13:24.03`	`Winkie`	`let me see if it's some sort of CDR issue`
`13:24.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Winkie: I may be mistaken.... hrm`
`13:24.51`	`S^P`	`[TK]D-Fender: http://paste-it.net/246 << its sending DTMF too quickly`
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`13:25.16`	`Winkie`	`[TK]D-Fender: there's no mention of it in the console, i could turn on debugging if you'd like`
`13:25.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: Try adding "wwwwww" before the #.`
`13:26.00`	`S^P`	`k`
`13:26.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Winkie: I have no practical experience with that unfortunately.`
`13:26.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BRB, have to reboot....`
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`13:30.00`	`S^P`	`[TK]D-Fender: -- Attempting native bridge of SIP/Masood-a600 and SIP/Joe-da7c << can we send DTMF after the bridge creation?`
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`13:31.43`	`S^P`	`i mean, after adding www before # , its do wait but its play the remaining IVR menu after that :(`
`13:32.17`	`nettie`	`Hi guys, I'm usually goto() to make extracontext jumps. I'm wondering if anyone know how to make the jump to multiple extensions insted of a single one. I know this can be done using Dial() and & but I prefer using extensions instead of dialling sip device directly because I have macros already configured. Any idea? than`
`13:32.30`	`nettie`	`usually =using`
`13:34.15`	`uwe`	`hello, does any one know where asterisk decides which file to play for digital receptionist?`
`13:34.29`	`mut`	`sounds like you need to rethink the dialplan`
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`13:35.21`	`S^P`	`[TK]D-Fender: is it possible to send DTMF after the call get bridged?`
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`13:35.47`	`DrukenHME`	`uwe: are you using something like AMP or freepbx?`
`13:35.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: Looks like "no". Don't see why you'd want to though....`
`13:36.12`	`uwe`	`freepbx, yes, but im trying to debug why its not working DrukenHME`
`13:36.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`uwe: Please read the channel topic....`
`13:37.12`	`S^P`	`[TK]D-Fender: www wait for a while and send DTMF but no effect on the channel and it plays the remaining part of the IVR, minus the wait interval (wwww)`
`13:37.15`	`uwe`	`[TK]D-Fender, well, the thing is that im trying to debug it from shell! and from the asterisk configs`
`13:37.24`	`nettie`	`anyone have a utstarcom f1000g please?`
`13:37.48`	`DrukenHME`	`uwe: ask in #freeepbx`
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`13:38.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`uwe: Whats the problem exactly? And forget debugging the configs. They get build and rewritten every time you commit a change fromt he GUI.`
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`13:39.34`	`uwe`	`well, the problem is that i try to upload a file to be played, it doesnt, and i want to try to place it there manually to see if it playes`
`13:39.55`	`uwe`	`i already asked in #freepbx DrukenHME`
`13:39.55`	`michael-i`	`iax encryption question: is there a "gotcha" regarding registrations, etc...? I've followed the example on voip-info with no luck (shows that it's encrypted but ethereal says otherwise)`
`13:39.55`	`S^P`	`[TK]D-Fender: After the call get bridged, the IVR menu plays the sound and I have to send DTMF using hard dialpad.`
`13:40.18`	`creativx`	`hm`
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`13:40.39`	`Bert-`	`hello there`
`13:40.43`	`creativx`	`Executing Set("SIP/587-b79071f8", "apparat = 587") .. next line: Executing NoOp("SIP/587-b79071f8", "update with uniqueid=1158154775.529 and apparat=")`
`13:40.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P: Then it means the DTMF might not have been delayed by the "wwww" and the menu ignored it.`
`13:40.50`	`Winkie`	`[TK]D-Fender: I think I figured it out anyway :)`
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`13:41.00`	`creativx`	`how come my ${apparat} variable gets blanked? :(`
`13:41.06`	`Bert-`	`does someone successfully installed webmin module for asterisk, the one on digium ftp site please?`
`13:41.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`creativx: How about showing us the like that called that?`
`13:41.44`	`creativx`	`[TK]D-Fender: Do i haaaaaaaaaave to... ;)`
`13:41.45`	`creativx`	`2 sec`
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`13:41.50`	`devooo`	`is it possible to get the IP address of a user given the local number? (we're creating a chat application and we're using asterisk as the sip server)`
`13:42.03`	`creativx`	`exten => s,n,set(apparat = ${CALLERID(num)})`
`13:42.03`	`creativx`	`exten => s,n,noop(apparat var =${apparat})`
`13:42.45`	`Winkie`	`[TK]D-Fender: it turned out to be a priority jumping issue, it was jumping right past the commands to add, i modified the dialplan and it works just perfectly :D`
`13:43.40`	`uwe`	`well, on the logs i see Sep 13 16:35:35 WARNING[19861]: Unable to open fd on /usr/share/asterisk/sounds/custom/aa_3.wav`
`13:43.40`	`uwe`	`Sep 13 16:35:35 WARNING[19861]: Unable to open custom/aa_3 (format ulaw): No such file or directory`
`13:43.40`	`uwe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:44.05`	`uwe`	`but the file exist in the same place where aa_1 and aa_2 exit and work`
`13:44.57`	`uwe`	`and i tried to resample the file using sox`
`13:45.06`	`uwe`	`maybe i missed the right syntax`
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`13:45.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`creativx: You have whitespace around the "=" which becomes part of that variable name. Thast no good.`
`13:45.35`	`creativx`	`evil whitespace`
`13:46.57`	`creativx`	`thanks for that [TK]D-Fender :)`
`13:47.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`creativx: you're welcome`
`13:48.33`	`creativx`	`i mean its soon 4pm so naturally i started doubting my self`
`13:48.44`	`creativx`	`but i was again fooled by excess whitespace.. hehe`
`13:50.32`	`devooo`	`help anyone?`
`13:51.28`	`creativx`	`devooo: you want to map an extension to a device?`
`13:53.32`	`devooo`	`creativx: i'm trying to create a chat application with asterisk as the sip server. i would like to know the ip address of the user given his extension so i could use it for the chat app`
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`13:54.18`	`devooo`	`creativx: i was wondering if this could be done. i'm using jain sip (java's sip api) for the chat app`
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`13:54.36`	`creativx`	`well you'd probably want to look into hints`
`13:54.50`	`creativx`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:54.50`	`creativx`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:54.52`	`creativx`	`like that`
`13:55.15`	`creativx`	`thus you can map an extension to a device, and get the device ip with sip show peers`
`13:55.35`	`wunderkin`	`uwe, are you specifying the file extension?`
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`13:55.54`	`aydiosmio`	`alright guys`
`13:55.57`	`aydiosmio`	`I gotta doosie`
`13:57.17`	`devooo`	`creativx: sip show peers shows the ip address but how could i get the value itself and use it in my java app? is that possible?`
`13:58.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`devooo: Pipe the output of that commadn and parse it out.`
`13:59.00`	`aydiosmio`	`I'm using asterisk as a transcoding gateway with our billing SIP softswitch calls come into the softswitch out to asterisk then back to the softswitch. The problem is that our calls are starting to bill when the first leg is connected to the gateway and not when it leaves the gateway. I need asterisk to send back a "TRYING" instead of an "OK" until the second leg of the call is connected, is this possible?`
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`13:59.48`	`devooo`	`[TK]D-Fender: this would be done using an agi? or could it be done directly from java?`
`13:59.52`	`designdream`	`i just read an article talking about asterisk 1.4 .. wth are they talking about?`
`14:00.03`	`designdream`	`http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3631546`
`14:01.35`	`aydiosmio`	`isn't it easier to use the manager interface for that kinf od stuff?`
`14:03.00`	`niter3`	`In one of my contexts I have added include => a few times for different contexts to work within in, and asterisk's CLI is genereating pbx.c:794 pbx_find_extension: Maximum PBX stack exceeded`
`14:03.12`	`niter3`	`if I just have one include => it's fine`
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`14:03.30`	`mosty`	`niter3, is your dialplan large?`
`14:03.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`devooo: Run asterisk -rx "sip show peers" or call it from the AMI`
`14:03.52`	`aydiosmio`	`ya rly ami`
`14:04.13`	`niter3`	`mosty - I have all the original junk in there..`
`14:04.20`	`niter3`	`the examples and so forth.`
`14:04.58`	`sleazye`	`hello i am looking for some software that is able to monitor the status of multiple off site asterisk servers for linux...anyone ever seen anything like that?`
`14:05.09`	`mosty`	`niter3, do you have a circular include thing happening?`
`14:05.46`	`mosty`	`sleazye, what do you want to monitor exactly?`
`14:05.47`	`niter3`	`not that i can see anywhere`
`14:05.51`	`aydiosmio`	`sleazye: sounds like a fun project`
`14:06.16`	`devooo`	`[TK]D-Fender: oh i see. i'll read up on that. thanks :)`
`14:06.18`	`sleazye`	`mosty: make sure the server is still up and running asterisk...`
`14:06.56`	`mosty`	`sleazye, there are loads of scripts around that will check that a server is up`
`14:07.03`	`aydiosmio`	`well there are several layers of "working"`
`14:07.12`	`aydiosmio`	`you can use SNMP to monitor the asterisk process in linux`
`14:07.20`	`mosty`	`sleazye, and on each machine you could have a cron job periodically check that it can connect to asterisk`
`14:07.24`	`aydiosmio`	`but just because the process is running doens't mean it's routing calls`
`14:07.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`S^P plug a normal phone into it, pick it up and judge for yourself how long it waits`
`14:08.37`	`sleazye`	`so there is not an existing project?`
`14:08.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`designdream: They are getting ahead of themselves. Digium put out a press release but inside it says October....`
`14:08.58`	`aydiosmio`	`not that I know of`
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`14:10.20`	`sleazye`	`i guess i gotta look into writing one...shouldnt be too hard.`
`14:10.23`	`mosty`	`sleazye, there are lots of existing projects, that are more general than for just asterisk`
`14:10.50`	`aydiosmio`	`sleazye: you really have to define what a "working" state is`
`14:11.05`	`aydiosmio`	`if you just want to know the process is running, like I said you can use SNMP`
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`14:12.52`	`sleazye`	`aydiosmio: how would i do that?`
`14:14.37`	`aydiosmio`	`sleazye: http://support.ipmonitor.com/tutorials/f699eb0da63948a6b906f66711f4c62f.aspx`
`14:14.41`	`aydiosmio`	`this should get you started`
`14:15.05`	`sleazye`	`aydiosmio: aydiosmio gracias`
`14:15.53`	`aydiosmio`	`np`
`14:16.02`	`aydiosmio`	`lots of stuff on google under linux process monitoring snmp`
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`14:19.27`	`nettie`	`anyone have an UTSTARCOM F1000G please? it wont register I tried the impossible uhmm..`
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`14:27.48`	`nettie`	`nvermind`
`14:27.51`	`nettie`	`figured out`
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`14:30.27`	`Alystair`	`I need to save my company from doing a stupid mistake of going with a non-voip PBX system`
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`14:35.27`	trelane`	`what formats does snom take for custom melody?`
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`14:40.37`	trelane`	`disregard, googled :)`
`14:40.42`	`XtremXpert`	`I have a beginer question about asterisk`
`14:41.03`	`Strom_C`	`the answer is "cheese"`
`14:41.15`	`XtremXpert`	`Can I use it without any hardware, just a sip account & a sofware sip phone`
`14:41.19`	`Strom_C`	`yes`
`14:42.06`	`XtremXpert`	`Do I need sip provioder or I can use it without as a big intercomm`
`14:42.16`	`Strom_C`	`you can use it either way`
`14:42.19`	`Strom_C`	`read the book`
`14:42.20`	`Strom_C`	`~book`
`14:42.22`	`jbot`	`from memory, book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`14:42.53`	`XtremXpert`	`I have read the handbook, but a lot of thing are still not clear for me`
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`14:44.20`	`XtremXpert`	`Thanks, i am downloading it right now`
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`14:46.21`	`arisjr`	`Hello! Is asterisk planning to support SIMPLE?`
`14:46.37`	`Strom_C`	`what the catsex is SIMPLE?`
`14:46.43`	`aydiosmio`	`what the hell is simple?`
`14:46.45`	`twisted[asteria]`	`simple is messaging`
`14:46.55`	`arisjr`	`SIP messaging`
`14:47.07`	`Strom_C`	`balls if I know`
`14:47.07`	`arisjr`	`SIP Instant Messaging`
`14:47.08`	`aydiosmio`	`maybe they shoul dhave named it something less generic so they could be easily found on google, eh?`
`14:47.08`	`tzafrir`	`instant-messaging and presense protocol of SIP`
`14:47.28`	`aydiosmio`	`like SIPIM!`
`14:47.41`	`arisjr`	`aydiosmio, hahaha`
`14:48.10`	`Alystair`	`did someone mention catsex`
`14:48.16`	`Strom_C`	`I did`
`14:48.19`	`twisted[asteria]`	`uhhh`
`14:49.01`	`bhrobinson`	`does anyone have the Linksys 941 phones?`
`14:49.36`	`bhrobinson`	`I am trying to get multiple instances of the same extension working`
`14:49.55`	`arisjr`	`xten softphones are supporting simple on 1.3`
`14:50.38`	`dalekurt`	`Strom_C: Waddaup!`
`14:50.52`	`arisjr`	`It would be neat to use SIMPLE on asterisk`
`14:50.52`	`Strom_C`	`I was jarred awake this morning`
`14:51.06`	`Strom_C`	`so im a smidge irritable :)`
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`14:51.27`	`Strom_C`	`I thought I was having a nightmare in which my car was being crushed to bits, but it turns it out that it was just the building next door being bulldozed.`
`14:52.05`	`mosty`	`is anyone able to confirm a couple of prefixes for me? i think the spreadsheet i have from my upstream provider has a couple of errors`
`14:52.06`	`mut`	`are grandstream atas anygood?`
`14:52.29`	`aydiosmio`	`so what in the SIP/RTP protocol indicates the destination has been answered?`
`14:52.40`	`aydiosmio`	`Session Progress? RTCP?`
`14:52.55`	`Strom_C`	`200 OK`
`14:53.00`	`mosty`	`aydiosmio, run tethereal and make a call, watch what happens`
`14:53.01`	`Strom_C`	`I think`
`14:53.07`	`aydiosmio`	`I'm looking at the ethereal dump`
`14:53.19`	`aydiosmio`	`but it's not real time, so I can't see what packet indicates answer, but thanks:)`
`14:53.28`	`aydiosmio`	`200 OK sounds most likely`
`14:54.01`	`mosty`	`aydiosmio, it seemed close enough to realtime last time i used it`
`14:54.13`	`arisjr`	`where can I surf the asterisk 1.4 svn?`
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`14:57.35`	`arisjr`	`where can I surf the asterisk 1.4 svn web view?`
`14:57.43`	`ZX81`	`trunk`
`14:57.47`	`ZX81`	`1.4 is not out yet`
`14:58.14`	`arisjr`	`not even in svn?`
`14:58.24`	`ZX81`	`trunk will become 1.5`
`14:58.26`	`ZX81`	`sorry`
`14:58.27`	`ZX81`	`1.4`
`14:58.28`	`ZX81`	`http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk/trunk/`
`14:58.31`	`ZX81`	`view it there`
`14:58.32`	`ZX81`	`:)`
`14:58.38`	`ZX81`	`it will be released in october`
`14:58.45`	`mark1`	`hey does anyone have polycom V2.0.0 firmware yet?`
`14:58.46`	`arisjr`	`thanks, ZX81!!`
`14:58.50`	`ZX81`	`no probs`
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`15:09.27`	`feld`	`asterisk 1.4 released?`
`15:09.29`	`dalekurt`	`Hey guys, I got a problem...`
`15:09.32`	`feld`	`sweet`
`15:09.56`	`dalekurt`	`I have setup my firewall to allow ports for SIP, RTP, MGCP and IAX`
`15:10.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mark1: Go ask your reseller for it.`
`15:10.39`	`dalekurt`	`and now when I have persons register and we establish a call I can't hear them and vica versa`
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`15:13.05`	`eKo1`	`feld: is it that time of the year already?`
`15:13.31`	`aydiosmio`	`so I have about 8 200 OKs in this capture`
`15:15.58`	`feld`	`eKo1: sure is! :P`
`15:15.59`	`quid246`	`dalekurt: disable the firewall and see if it works`
`15:16.29`	`mishehu`	if I'm sending a call from asterisk box A to asterisk box B by `Dial(IAX2/foo/s@context)`, and on asterisk box B in context `context` there is, in addition to s exten also s/_1234567890 exten, and according show dialplan the s/_1234567890 has higher priority, is there any reason it wouldn't route 1234567890 CIDNum to s/_1234567890 ?
`15:16.40`	`feld`	`where can i find more info / pricing on the asterisk hardware unit?`
`15:16.44`	`feld`	`that appliance`
`15:17.19`	`mosty`	`feld, asterisk is software, not hardware`
`15:17.40`	`Strom_C`	`mosty: there's an asterisk appliance now`
`15:17.45`	`Strom_C`	`digium.com`
`15:17.50`	`Strom_C`	`go look and drool`
`15:18.01`	`mosty`	`ahh well there you go`
`15:18.13`	`dalekurt`	`quid246: can't not at the location`
`15:18.15`	`quid246`	`mishehu; dude, that question is so confusing.`
`15:18.34`	`quid246`	`dalekurt: Then get to that location.`
`15:18.51`	`dalekurt`	`quid246: would have to wait until I'm home.`
`15:19.03`	`quid246`	`dalekurt: ensure your RTP ports are opened the same on the firewall as spciefied in RTP.CONF`
`15:19.10`	`dalekurt`	`quid246: I think it does have something to do with the RTP ports.`
`15:19.20`	`quid246`	`because if IAX isn't traveresing the firewall, then it sounds like an RTP port problem`
`15:19.28`	`dalekurt`	`yes I'm using 10000-20000`
`15:19.30`	`Strom_C`	`and make sure you're opening UDP, not TCP`
`15:19.39`	`quid246`	`yeah was just abotu to say that`
`15:19.44`	`dalekurt`	`yeah made sure it's on UDO`
`15:19.46`	`dalekurt`	`UDP`
`15:19.49`	`Strom_C`	`also, SIP uses 5060 for signaling`
`15:19.51`	`Strom_C`	`so open that too`
`15:19.55`	`dalekurt`	`only 5060 has both tcp/udp`
`15:19.56`	`Strom_C`	`IAX uses 4569`
`15:20.40`	`dalekurt`	`I'm logging into my interface..`
`15:20.57`	`quid246`	`Damn... is there a way to get Asterisk RealTime IAX to read MD5 from MySQL?`
`15:21.25`	`mosty`	`strom_c, have you played with one? i'd be worried about cpu power on something like that`
`15:22.07`	`Strom_C`	`mosty: I haven't played with it yet`
`15:22.23`	`quid246`	`Strom: Liar... everybody plays with it.`
`15:22.24`	`quid246`	`haha`
`15:22.30`	`Strom_C`	`hahahaha`
`15:22.35`	`Strom_C`	`oh that i'm not denying`
`15:22.41`	`Strom_C`	`but as far as playing with the asterisk appliance...`
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`15:26.29`	`dalekurt`	`I gotta try this later, thanks guys.`
`15:27.09`	`quid246`	`np`
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`15:28.16`	`ZX81`	`haha slashdot is down`
`15:28.18`	`ZX81`	`lol`
`15:28.20`	`quid246`	`nice`
`15:28.21`	`awannabe`	`Has anyone setup the Polycom 601's with sidecars?`
`15:28.22`	`ZX81`	`sorry, ot`
`15:28.23`	`ZX81`	`:)`
`15:29.12`	`quid246`	`I have a great domain name for a Slashdot type site... thought abotu developing it myself, but my interests now lay elsewhere... "nerdbytes.com"`
`15:29.39`	`ZX81`	`:)`
`15:29.58`	`quid246`	`Sooner or later someoen will want to buy it from me (I hope).`
`15:30.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: I do`
`15:30.34`	`awannabe`	`you can monitor 14 extensions per sidecar then?`
`15:30.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: yup`
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`15:31.20`	`awannabe`	`and also, for the receponist phone, you could them pick up a phone call, hit transfer and just hit a button on the sidecar and it will transfer to that extension, right?`
`15:31.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: yup`
`15:31.56`	`awannabe`	`its that easy? lol`
`15:32.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: I have 2 usits fuilly loaded and lit up like a christmas tree :)`
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`15:32.43`	`awannabe`	`so the background is like dark when line is in use, and background is light when line not in use?`
`15:32.44`	`quid246`	`is it possible to encrypt IAX passwords so they aren't cleartext in iax.conf?`
`15:33.16`	`awannabe`	`oh wait, it has LEDs, none of the pictures show that, heh`
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`15:33.48`	`mosty`	`quid246, isn't there an md5'ed equivalent field?`
`15:34.40`	`quid246`	`md5secret... but I can't get it to jive. If I leave out any 'secret=xxxxx' field, it will authenticate on any password`
`15:34.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: The background is always normal, the icon changes and they buttons have a little light next to them like the IP 601 has`
`15:34.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: Identical`
`15:35.07`	`awannabe`	`i only have the 501's, i didnt even know the 601's did that! heh`
`15:35.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: the IP 430, 600, 601, and 650 all have lighted indicators.`
`15:35.41`	`awannabe`	`for the * config you just setup each line to monitor as a presence() line pretty much, right?`
`15:35.51`	`Juggie`	`quid246, you need to set auth=`
`15:35.53`	`awannabe`	`yeah, friggin 501 is the only one, lol`
`15:35.55`	`Juggie`	`which would be auth=md5`
`15:35.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: Yup, pretty easy`
`15:36.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: No, the 301 is unlit as well`
`15:37.17`	`aydiosmio`	`I'm having a real hard time seeing where the destination is answered and the client recieves notification of an answer`
`15:37.29`	`quid246`	`JUggie auth is set auth=md5`
`15:37.37`	`awannabe`	`very cool, im doing 501's for the desk phones, and then 601 for attendant`
`15:37.37`	`aydiosmio`	`I'm only seeing a 200 OK from vonage back to my gateway, it doesn't filter back to the sip client`
`15:38.01`	`quid246`	`Juggie: I know in SIP.CONF the MD5 has to be the result of user:realm:secret... is this also the case in IAX.conf?`
`15:38.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: Already have them?`
`15:38.29`	`awannabe`	`not yet`
`15:38.30`	`Juggie`	`quid246, i'm not sure`
`15:38.56`	`Juggie`	`quid246, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+sip+md5secret`
`15:39.06`	`quid246`	`The Wiki is pretyt weak on MD5.`
`15:39.46`	`aydiosmio`	`do session progress packets stop when the call is answered?`
`15:40.05`	`mishehu`	`hey folks, having an issue with doing the "ex-gf" inbound cid matching: http://pastebin.ca/169027`
`15:40.27`	`awannabe`	`[TK]D-Fender, u got another phone to recommend outside of 501? i see the 430 but we may end up using the 3rd line`
`15:41.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: You need to expand your understanding of "lines". Those are 2 seperate "registrations". Any polycom can shuffle over a dozen calls at a time.`
`15:42.17`	`Juggie`	`quid246, i think w/ md5 & iax, you put the password in clear text`
`15:42.19`	`Juggie`	`on both sides`
`15:42.30`	`Juggie`	`and its just transfered as md5`
`15:42.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: You may jsut be using them as 1 call per line key. My home IP 501 for instance uses all 3 line keys as a seperate reg support 5 calls each.`
`15:42.32`	`Juggie`	`but i am unsure`
`15:42.33`	`awannabe`	`[TK]D-Fender, yeah, we want multiple vmail boxes, and extensions`
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`15:43.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Per phone? How many serpately monitored boxes and id's can you need on a phone?`
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`15:43.42`	`awannabe`	`well each one will have a personal vm box, then each phone will have a shared one (sales, leasing, billing, etc) and then might add one more later on down the line`
`15:44.15`	`quid246`	`Juggie: Yeah... unless some expert chimes in, I think so. Kind of silly, when it is so easy to hash it and put it in as an MD5 string`
`15:45.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: Well, you could have 1 reg handle multiple boxes. Depends on how you really want to manage things.`
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`15:45.37`	`awannabe`	`[TK]D-Fender, ahh, well im liking 3 seperate ones lol will be easier to manage I think`
`15:46.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: Yeah, if you really need it. You on PoE? If so might be worth the IP601 over a 501 + PoE.`
`15:46.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: MicroBrowser is a great add-on....`
`15:46.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: Plus 6 line-keys to play with.`
`15:47.05`	`awannabe`	`[TK]D-Fender, nope no PoE :( but yeah i love the microbroswer`
`15:47.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: Depends on style or operation / budget`
`15:47.31`	`awannabe`	`yeah, its more of a budget then anything`
`15:47.48`	`awannabe`	`if i had it my way id have PoE and 601s everywhere, heh`
`15:47.53`	`mishehu`	`nobody able to help out with the inbound caller id matching? dialplan and full explanation of what is happening on http://pastebin.ca/169027`
`15:49.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: Thats exactly what I did here.`
`15:49.37`	`jhiver`	`why am i getting these?`
`15:49.40`	`jhiver`	`Sep 13 17:43:03 WARNING[16084]: channel.c:787 channel_find_locked: Avoided initial deadlock for '0x82096a0', 10 retries!`
`15:50.00`	`jhiver`	`as soon as the load increases, i'm getting lots of these warnings`
`15:50.19`	`jhiver`	`when the load is low (< 5 channels), no problem though`
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`15:50.35`	`awannabe`	`[TK]D-Fender, the 601 cant monitor any extensions can it? the same way the sidecar does anyways, right?`
`15:50.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: Any Polycom can.`
`15:51.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: But the 601 isn't limited to 8`
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`15:57.26`	`aydiosmio`	`okay... hm. anyone know how to prevent an AS5300 from answering and incoming VoIP call, instead waiting for the destination to answer?`
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`15:57.42`	`aydiosmio`	`this is such an obscure problem.`
`15:58.35`	`awannabe`	`[TK]D-Fender, but thats not with a button, its thru the buddy crap right? ive done that, but i dont like personally heh`
`15:58.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: No, you can use a button for it.`
`15:59.23`	`awannabe`	`[TK]D-Fender, ahhh i didnt know that`
`15:59.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`awannabe: so in a typical scenario it'd be 1 line key for all calls to a single reg, and 2 free for presence`
`15:59.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`(for an IP 501)`
`15:59.42`	`ab0oo`	`any consultants want to make a quick buck bailing me out of a vonage/asreisk problem?`
`16:00.07`	`awannabe`	`ohh ok, yeah i have done that now i think about it, but you cant transfer from that can you?`
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`16:01.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sure. [transfer] [blind] [lienkey with exten on it]`
`16:02.16`	`trevarthan`	`hello, I'm using the latest trixbox and this guide: http://keystoneit.wordpress.com/2006/08/13/asterisk-trixbox-and-nat/`
`16:02.16`	`trevarthan`	`and I get what I think is one-way audio. I call my voicemail and I can hear it, but the asterisk console says the call hangs up within 4 seconds every time. I've tried with sjphone and x-lite 3.`
`16:02.24`	`awannabe`	`ahh, ok, nifty! heh`
`16:02.36`	`trevarthan`	`My network looks like this: x-lite -> NAT -> internet -> NAT -> asterisk`
`16:03.07`	`trevarthan`	`asterisk's 5060 port is forwarded through my firewall.`
`16:03.38`	`trevarthan`	`Any ideas? I used to have this working with asterisk 1.x about a year ago, so I'm not sure what is causing the problem now.`
`16:04.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trevarthan: Psatebin your sip.conf and every file included by it.`
`16:04.14`	`trevarthan`	`all the versions are different now, of course, so it could be anything.`
`16:04.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~pb`
`16:04.17`	`jbot`	`from memory, pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ (BROKEN AND SUCKING NUTS), or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/, or http://paste.lisp.org/ for the lisp/scheme nuts, or http://paste-it.net`
`16:05.24`	`DrukenHME`	`ab0oo: wuts your problem ?`
`16:05.27`	`quid246`	`Unless I am missing something, I can't believe that password security is implemented in SIP.CONF via MD5, but not IAX.conf`
`16:06.19`	`ab0oo`	`DrukenHME: I've got a provider problem that is preventing my asterisk server in New Oleans from reaching the vonage proxy`
`16:06.21`	`awannabe`	`i swore IAX could use MD5`
`16:06.25`	`aydiosmio`	`quid246: looks like it is to me`
`16:06.27`	`aydiosmio`	`md5secret`
`16:06.30`	`aydiosmio`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+config+iax.conf`
`16:06.32`	`ab0oo`	`I have another asterisk server in Denver that CAN reach the server.`
`16:06.40`	`trevarthan`	`sip.conf: http://paste-it.net/250`
`16:06.49`	`aydiosmio`	`says it's available under peer and user`
`16:07.01`	`DrukenHME`	`ab0oo: so why not use the denver server to proxy the calls to the other server via iax?`
`16:07.09`	`ab0oo`	`I want to set up an IAX trunk that allows me to reroute all of the phones associated in New Orleans (behind a firewall, where the asterisk server sits)`
`16:07.10`	`trevarthan`	`sip_nat.conf is emtpy.`
`16:07.11`	`quid246`	`aydiosmio: Wel the Digium doucmentaiton makes reference to it in SIP.CONF only`
`16:07.16`	`ab0oo`	`DrukenHME: I don't know how.`
`16:07.26`	`aydiosmio`	`in iax.conf:`
`16:07.26`	`aydiosmio`	`auth=md5`
`16:07.27`	`aydiosmio`	`secret=<md5secret>`
`16:07.32`	`aydiosmio`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+sip+md5secret`
`16:07.34`	`awannabe`	`yeah thats it!`
`16:07.35`	`aydiosmio`	`at the bottom`
`16:07.45`	`DrukenHME`	`ab0oo: oh...`
`16:07.54`	`quid246`	`Yeah I saw that. But I've tried hashing it different ways, still no go`
`16:07.56`	`trevarthan`	`sip_additional.conf: http://paste-it.net/251`
`16:07.59`	`quid246`	`lemme take another stba`
`16:08.01`	`quid246`	`stab`
`16:08.09`	`ab0oo`	`I hav auth for a few hours of consutant time to get us up and running again.`
`16:08.12`	`trevarthan`	`sip_custom.conf doesn't exist.`
`16:08.19`	`aydiosmio`	`"You do not need to md5sum the password."`
`16:08.20`	`trevarthan`	`that's it. any ideas?`
`16:08.21`	`ab0oo`	`need someone that can do the AIX tunnel between two servers`
`16:08.23`	`DrukenHME`	`quid246: it has :asterisk: in the middle...`
`16:08.24`	`aydiosmio`	`quid246:`
`16:08.48`	`quid246`	`Druken: Even if I have changed the realm in IAX.CONF?`
`16:08.49`	`ab0oo`	`meanwhile, I'm frantically reading documentation`
`16:08.55`	`aydiosmio`	`quid246: did you read that? You do not need to md5sum the password.`
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`16:09.21`	`DrukenHME`	`quid246: oh, well, i don't know then... i just remember having to use :asterisk: with mine...`
`16:09.22`	`quid246`	`aydiosum: Yeah, but that means putting it in the file as cleartext, defets the purpose of wht I want to do`
`16:09.35`	`aydiosmio`	`set the file permissions`
`16:09.41`	`aydiosmio`	`use an encrypted filesystem`
`16:10.06`	`aydiosmio`	`and an unslated md5 is nearly worthless anyway`
`16:10.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trevarthan: sip_nat.conf as well please....`
`16:10.11`	`eKo1`	`Why would my spans keep going up and down.`
`16:10.12`	`aydiosmio`	`unsalted`
`16:10.17`	`trevarthan`	`sip_nat.conf is empty.`
`16:10.29`	`quid246`	`I know, but yeards better than plaintext`
`16:10.32`	`quid246`	`yards`
`16:10.32`	`trevarthan`	`it exists, but empty.`
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`16:10.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trevarthan: There's the problem. You have declared "localnet", but need to have "nat=yes", and "externip" set.`
`16:11.02`	`aydiosmio`	`quid246: you don't have your server configured correctly if you have to worry about password files being exposed`
`16:11.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trevarthan: You should be able to do that through the TrixBox panel. Don't ask here if you need help finding it.`
`16:11.13`	`eKo1`	`Correction, the D-channel on my span keeps going up and down.`
`16:11.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trevarthan: But those are the settings it should let you fill in.`
`16:11.38`	`quid246`	`aydiosmio: Added security never hurt.`
`16:12.07`	`awannabe`	`there should be no problems with running a ATA for a fax machine over a LAN right? ive dont it in the past, but not major traffic`
`16:12.09`	`aydiosmio`	`well, you know, it wouldn't be hard to alter the asterisk source to allow for it`
`16:12.23`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`could anybody please check the file "astcc.png" from astcc? http://svn.digium.com/svn/astcc/trunk/astcc.png`
`16:12.29`	`aydiosmio`	`but I guess we're back to the beginning where the answer you'er lookign for is no`
`16:12.34`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`file(1) claims that it is corrupt`
`16:13.16`	`trevarthan`	`[TK]D-Fender: externhost + nat=yes isn't good enough?`
`16:13.34`	`trevarthan`	`(I'm only testing from extension 1003)`
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`16:13.44`	`trevarthan`	`and nat=yes in 1003.`
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`16:13.58`	`kimron`	`ola`
`16:14.36`	`quid246`	`tza: yeah, it's broke... make your own picture`
`16:15.02`	`quid246`	`tza; Are you in the CC business?`
`16:15.07`	`awannabe`	`tzafrir_laptop, i cant open it either`
`16:16.02`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`quid246, no. I think that the CreativeCommons licenses are horribly uunclear`
`16:16.59`	`quid246`	`tza: CC = Calling Card`
`16:17.11`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`I know ;-)`
`16:17.14`	`quid246`	`okay`
`16:17.32`	`quid246`	`I still woner why so many guys in that busienss are shady... you see messages posted on boards "Don't buy minutes from Ali, he is a thief"`
`16:17.44`	`quid246`	`and lots at that`
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`16:18.14`	`aydiosmio`	`the telecommunications business is full of scummy people`
`16:18.23`	`aydiosmio`	`it's just the nature of the market`
`16:18.39`	`aydiosmio`	`especially calling cards`
`16:18.44`	`quid246`	`CC guys are the bottom of the barrel, cell phone salesman just a notch higher up the adder`
`16:18.54`	`quid246`	`ladder`
`16:19.27`	`aydiosmio`	`latter`
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`16:19.36`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`latrine`
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`16:19.41`	`quid246`	`haha`
`16:19.57`	`bhrobinson`	`anyone familiar with the I just switched my digium board for a sangoma... how do I remove the digium drivers?`
`16:20.07`	`CtRiX`	`ROTFL!!`
`16:20.31`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`bhrobinson, why do you need to remove them? A modprobe will just fail to detect anything`
`16:20.44`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Unless the Digium board is still on the system`
`16:20.51`	`bhrobinson`	`just trying to keep things cleaned`
`16:21.02`	`bhrobinson`	`up`
`16:21.10`	`bhrobinson`	`if you do not think it is needed... I wont`
`16:21.21`	`CtRiX`	`bhrobinson, it depends on how you installed the drivers.`
`16:21.30`	`CtRiX`	`anyway, it's not needed, i think.`
`16:21.33`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`they are part of the zaptel installation, which you need anyway. Just don't modprobe them on startup`
`16:21.34`	`trevarthan`	`[TK]D-Fender: yeah, that worked. I guess externhost doesn't work?`
`16:22.02`	`bhrobinson`	`how do I take them out of the modprobe? I am fairly new to *nix`
`16:22.19`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`bhrobinson, what distro do you use?`
`16:22.49`	`CtRiX`	`bhrobinson, they wont even get loaded. Linux is not Winblows`
`16:23.02`	`bhrobinson`	`centos`
`16:23.12`	`bhrobinson`	`CtRiX, they attempt though, right?`
`16:23.34`	`CtRiX`	`scripts look for installed hardware`
`16:23.42`	`CtRiX`	`if they find it, they load the modules`
`16:23.54`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`check /etc/sysconfig/modules . Rem-out (put a '#' in the beginning) of any line that adds to MODULES a module that is not wanpipe`
`16:24.52`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`but this is just my guess. I know that Sangoma have their own magic script, and I have no idea what harm it applies`
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`16:56.01`	`arisjr`	`hi folks! If SIMPLE would be implemented on asterisk, I would be on channel_sip.c or it will be like an add-on?`
`16:56.31`	`mog`	`you would probably want to add simple into chan_sip arcanine`
`16:56.34`	`mog`	`er arisjr`
`16:57.11`	`arisjr`	`arf`
`16:57.19`	`arisjr`	`chan_sip`
`16:57.35`	`arisjr`	`you're right`
`16:59.20`	`arisjr`	`mog, there's any work or plan to implement it?`
`16:59.35`	`mog`	`people have talked about it`
`16:59.43`	`aydiosmio`	`imho, IM doesn't belong in the SIP protocol`
`16:59.43`	`mog`	`i dont think anyone is working on it at the moment`
`17:00.03`	`aydiosmio`	`and if it were, it should be interoperable between all voip pprotocols`
`17:00.11`	`aydiosmio`	`IAX, SIP, H.232`
`17:00.26`	`aydiosmio`	`323`
`17:00.35`	`arisjr`	`aydiosmio, you could say it on ietf rfc`
`17:00.53`	`aydiosmio`	`yeah`
`17:01.13`	`arisjr`	`yeah, I'm thinking how to add it to iax too`
`17:01.34`	`mog`	`use jabber for presence / messaging`
`17:01.35`	`aydiosmio`	`there's really no point in implementing IM for SIP if you can't IM IAX clients or IM other SIP clients over IAX trunks, or to other IM networks`
`17:02.30`	`arisjr`	`aydiosmio, asterisk could do the gateway job to the iax clients.`
`17:02.43`	`justinu\|laptop`	`mog's right XMPP (jabber) is the way to go`
`17:02.47`	`arisjr`	`iax should add im to it`
`17:02.58`	`aydiosmio`	`jabber is good, oscar is more popular`
`17:03.03`	`mog`	`iax has text messageing`
`17:03.09`	`mog`	`but jabber is better`
`17:03.24`	`justinu\|laptop`	`oscar is AIM?`
`17:03.28`	`arisjr`	`mog, that is the project final thought?`
`17:03.35`	`aydiosmio`	`yes AIM`
`17:03.38`	`florz`	`but noone implements xmpp ack, which sucks ...`
`17:03.43`	`DrukenHME`	`iax, tcp or udp ?`
`17:03.47`	`arisjr`	`to not add IM dto SIP?`
`17:03.48`	`mog`	`xmpp is the most implemented im protocol`
`17:03.50`	`arisjr`	`to`
`17:03.51`	`mog`	`at least in real biz`
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`17:03.55`	`justinu\|laptop`	`XMPP is the only IM protocol which gets multipresence right`
`17:04.02`	`toaks`	`anyone ever had trouble with tdm400p hardware?`
`17:04.25`	`toaks`	`like the fxs modules not working.`
`17:04.35`	`tzanger`	`toaks: is it plugged in?`
`17:04.38`	`brif8`	`I have this line in a perl agi script " my $called = $AGI->get_variable("EXTEN"); " it worked fine now suddenly ir only gives a blank string. Has something changed? I upgraded * to 1.2.11 from 1.2.6 nt sure if that changed anything ?`
`17:04.39`	`aydiosmio`	`heheh`
`17:04.41`	`toaks`	`ah - yes.`
`17:04.43`	`aydiosmio`	`tzanger: that was my guess.`
`17:04.48`	`benjk`	`never, tdm400 is totally free of trouble, ever!`
`17:04.53`	`luke-jr_work`	`anyone know how to have mpd output to asterisk's moh without an intermediate encoding to MP3/Vorbis?`
`17:04.56`	`arisjr`	`I think it must be free to people to add IM to SIP or not`
`17:05.10`	`toaks`	`nah - all good. have a tdm400p with two fxo and two fxs`
`17:05.19`	`arisjr`	`and asterisk must be flexible to people do it`
`17:05.38`	`luke-jr_work`	`SIP is a voip standard, not IM =p`
`17:05.41`	`*** join/#asterisk Bert- (n=bert@i05v-87-90-132-119.d4.club-internet.fr)`
`17:05.45`	`toaks`	`so one of the fxs gives a dialtone with a phone.`
`17:05.45`	`Bert-`	`hi again`
`17:05.47`	`*** join/#asterisk tlockney (n=tlockney@c-24-20-172-87.hsd1.or.comcast.net)`
`17:05.56`	`toaks`	`but the other doesnt`
`17:05.56`	`benjk`	`for various interpretations of ever and never`
`17:06.03`	`*** join/#asterisk pdtwork (n=ptinsley@209.12.249.243)`
`17:06.16`	`Bert-`	`what misconfig can cause Asterisk returning 401 error code please ?`
`17:06.23`	`Bert-`	`sometimes I got this error`
`17:06.28`	`Bert-`	`I don't know why`
`17:06.31`	`Bert-`	`then it works again`
`17:06.32`	`toaks`	`well - this one is not never free of trouble.`
`17:06.38`	`*** join/#asterisk Sasch (n=Admin@host102-30-static.107-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it)`
`17:06.44`	`benjk`	`heh`
`17:06.50`	`Sasch`	`I have one problem with xlite1 ...`
`17:06.52`	`*** join/#asterisk austinnichols102 (n=austinni@70.46.69.131)`
`17:06.58`	`oej`	`arisjr: There's already some SIMPLE in chan_sip`
`17:07.00`	`Sasch`	`if i would transfer a call`
`17:07.23`	`Sasch`	`i send # and the numbero of transfer`
`17:07.23`	`Sasch`	`don't work`
`17:07.26`	`oej`	`SIP is not VoIP, not telephony. It's a realtime communication platform that supports a lot of stuff, including audio, video and text messaging`
`17:07.51`	`benjk`	`SIP is like a real estate agent`
`17:07.57`	`arisjr`	`oej, you mean draft-ietf-simple-event-list-07.txt`
`17:08.01`	`aydiosmio`	`SIP is like an anology`
`17:08.04`	`aydiosmio`	`when you make one`
`17:08.04`	`justinu\|laptop`	`haha`
`17:08.07`	`aydiosmio`	`it's usually obscure and silly`
`17:08.18`	`benjk`	`or one of those old ladies who deal in arranged marriages`
`17:08.31`	`arisjr`	`SIP is all in one...`
`17:08.37`	`aydiosmio`	`SIP is our god`
`17:08.45`	`justinu\|laptop`	`SIP is strange`
`17:08.47`	`arisjr`	`we not worthy`
`17:08.51`	`aydiosmio`	`We renounce all other before it`
`17:08.56`	`benjk`	`they don't have anything to sell to you and they make no warranties about the merchadise they introduce you to`
`17:08.58`	`arisjr`	`we're not worthy`
`17:09.15`	`aydiosmio`	`SIP does not include batteries`
`17:09.16`	`justinu\|laptop`	`CANCEL an INVITE before it 200 OKs, but BYE a call after it's 200 OK'ed`
`17:09.21`	`aydiosmio`	`SIP's accessories are sold separately`
`17:09.21`	`*** join/#asterisk Cresl1n (i=matt@nat/digium/x-12adc2b9d29ae8d2)`
`17:09.21`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o Cresl1n] by ChanServ`
`17:09.26`	`benjk`	`and once your introduced they step out and let you make your good or bad experiences on your own, they don't want to be part of this`
`17:09.47`	`justinu\|laptop`	`i learned QSIG and that makes a bit more sense`
`17:10.32`	`benjk`	`arisjr, SIP is not all in one, quite the opposite`
`17:10.48`	`*** join/#asterisk harryvv (n=none@S010600a0c93f6f7e.vs.shawcable.net)`
`17:11.01`	`mog`	`amen lunaphyte`
`17:11.03`	`mog`	`er luke-jr_work`
`17:11.08`	`mog`	`to many nicks in this channel`
`17:11.16`	`Cresl1n`	`xmpp is just like another sip in my book`
`17:11.22`	`Cresl1n`	`I wish IAX would kill sip`
`17:11.29`	`Cresl1n`	`makes a lot more sense`
`17:11.37`	`CunningPike`	`oej: Are you going to Astricon this year?`
`17:11.38`	`Cresl1n`	`no offense mog`
`17:11.58`	`oej`	`Why on earth would I go to Astricon Bizniz bullshit?`
`17:12.08`	`arisjr`	`well, if it has video, it could certainly add IM to it. asterisk having all things in SIP. I celtainly will forget jabber and others...`
`17:12.14`	`oej`	`Cresl1n: You lost a cookie there`
`17:12.19`	`harryvv`	`Cresl1n because of the nat issue?`
`17:12.24`	`Cresl1n`	`yeah`
`17:12.28`	`mog`	`xmpp means no text parsing`
`17:12.29`	`luke-jr_work`	`Cresl1n: IAX2 cannot handle reinvites`
`17:12.32`	`justinu\|laptop`	`SIP works fine thru NAT`
`17:12.42`	`harryvv`	`yea, it would be easier to demo phones to a customer if there firwall would permit it.`
`17:12.44`	`Cresl1n`	`luke-jr_work: it does now`
`17:12.50`	`mog`	`iax2 handles reinvites now`
`17:12.54`	`luke-jr_work`	`Cresl1n: not a few months ago`
`17:12.59`	`Cresl1n`	`that was an addition that went in during the 1.3 development cycle`
`17:13.03`	`luke-jr_work`	`it could only do transfers`
`17:13.04`	`Cresl1n`	`it'll be in 1.4`
`17:13.09`	`Cresl1n`	`you can do media reinvites`
`17:13.12`	`mog`	`it was in spec`
`17:13.14`	`mog`	`we just didnt do it`
`17:13.16`	`mog`	`now we do`
`17:13.22`	`luke-jr_work`	`so the control channel is split from audio?`
`17:13.31`	`Cresl1n`	`yep`
`17:13.35`	`luke-jr_work`	`nice`
`17:13.37`	`Cresl1n`	`exactly what you're thinking of`
`17:13.49`	`Cresl1n`	`so the final nail in sip's coffin has been put in`
`17:13.50`	`mog`	`iax is to easy to write`
`17:14.14`	`luke-jr_work`	`but XMPP will still win in the end =p`
`17:14.19`	`luke-jr_work`	`maybe`
`17:14.20`	`Cresl1n`	`psssh`
`17:14.23`	`aydiosmio`	`sorry`
`17:14.25`	`arisjr`	`I use only IAX for pbx integration... I don't really mind having it for clients (only for the RTP stuff)`
`17:14.26`	`aydiosmio`	`SIP is here to stay`
`17:14.37`	`justinu\|laptop`	`yeah, no way SIP is going anywhere soon`
`17:14.38`	`Cresl1n`	`xmpp is trying to be too interoperable with SIP`
`17:14.40`	`luke-jr_work`	`XMPP really only lacks an anonymous form`
`17:14.50`	`luke-jr_work`	`Cresl1n: XMPP is not interoperable with SIP`
`17:14.56`	`luke-jr_work`	`nobody AFAIK tries to do suhc`
`17:14.58`	`Cresl1n`	`well, googletalk/xmpp`
`17:15.02`	`Cresl1n`	`in any case`
`17:15.07`	`mog`	`xmpp has anonymous form luke-jr_work`
`17:15.14`	`luke-jr_work`	`mog: it does?`
`17:15.17`	`mog`	`it is as well luke-jr_work`
`17:15.19`	`mog`	`we have done it`
`17:15.41`	`mog`	`and we have done sip / jingle gatewaying as well`
`17:15.49`	`mog`	`servers can support anon login`
`17:15.50`	`luke-jr_work`	`gateway is not interoperability`
`17:15.51`	`eKo1`	`A signalling protocal flame war...only on #asterisk`
`17:16.04`	`luke-jr_work`	`mog: I meant p2p communications w/o a server`
`17:16.04`	`eKo1`	`*protocol that is`
`17:16.15`	`justinu\|laptop`	`IAX 0wn3s!`
`17:16.17`	`mog`	`we can do media reinvite`
`17:16.35`	`luke-jr_work`	`SIP/IAX2 allow me to connect to any arbitrary IP ;)`
`17:16.43`	`luke-jr_work`	`I don't think XMPP can do that`
`17:16.54`	`arisjr`	`da hell, I just asked for simple, and suddenly people initiated a IAX vs SIP war`
`17:17.02`	`luke-jr_work`	`screw simple`
`17:17.04`	`luke-jr_work`	`=p`
`17:17.06`	`Ryushin`	`What is the difference between asterisk-netsec and asterisk?`
`17:17.29`	`arisjr`	`simple is good`
`17:17.42`	`luke-jr_work`	`arisjr: BTW, it's XMPP vs SIP/IAX2 mostly`
`17:17.48`	`harryvv`	`I wonder how a small customer would handle allowing me to put a sip frinedly DNS firewall behind there firewall for demo purpouses :)`
`17:17.49`	`luke-jr_work`	`simple is evil`
`17:18.14`	`*** join/#asterisk L-info (n=Adam@62.69.102.99)`
`17:18.15`	`harryvv`	`dhcp firewall I mean :)`
`17:18.18`	`Juggie`	`sip friendly firewall?`
`17:18.25`	`Juggie`	`all u need is Symetric Nat`
`17:18.30`	`luke-jr_work`	`...`
`17:18.35`	`luke-jr_work`	`NAT is not a firewall`
`17:18.42`	`arisjr`	`I think asterisk should add IM trought DNS TXT queries, hahaha`
`17:18.56`	`Juggie`	`who said nat was a firewall`
`17:19.01`	`Nugget`	`hah`
`17:19.09`	`eKo1`	`a nat firewall....`
`17:19.09`	`Nugget`	`then call routing via DNS LOC? :)`
`17:19.12`	`syzygyBSD`	`lol`
`17:19.15`	`Juggie`	`if you are on a private network, then your 'firewall' must do symetric nat for Sip`
`17:19.26`	`*** join/#asterisk somegeek (i=levin@tor/regular/somegeek)`
`17:19.41`	`luke-jr_work`	`Juggie: he wanted a SIP friendly firewall =p`
`17:19.48`	`Juggie`	`hah`
`17:20.01`	`luke-jr_work`	`NAT is an ugly obsolete hack =p`
`17:20.10`	`mog`	`lol`
`17:20.15`	`mog`	`nat is never gonna die luke-jr`
`17:20.15`	`Juggie`	`hah.`
`17:20.25`	`Nugget`	`I wouldn't say it's "obsolete" but it sure does blow goats.`
`17:20.26`	`eKo1`	`obsolete my bum`
`17:20.50`	`luke-jr_work`	`IPv6 obsoletes it =p`
`17:20.50`	`harryvv`	`luke, making fun of my firewall with nat capabilities? :)`
`17:20.50`	`mog`	`nat is just to ingraned`
`17:20.50`	`Juggie`	`nat isnt going anywhere`
`17:20.56`	`Juggie`	`and the internet isnt going to ipv6 anytime soon`
`17:20.58`	`Nugget`	`neither is IPv6 ;)`
`17:21.06`	`mog`	`id be suprised if ipv6 makes it in 10 years`
`17:21.09`	`mog`	`there isnt a need`
`17:21.11`	`mog`	`thanks to nat`
`17:21.14`	`*** join/#asterisk darkskiez (n=mbryars@bb-87-81-62-203.ukonline.co.uk)`
`17:21.17`	`luke-jr_work`	`IPv6 is available everywhere`
`17:21.22`	`Juggie`	`maybe so`
`17:21.24`	`Juggie`	`but who cares`
`17:21.29`	`Juggie`	`no one is usingi t.`
`17:21.31`	`Juggie`	`*it`
`17:21.33`	`arisjr`	`ipv6 is past. now the thing is ipx`
`17:21.35`	`luke-jr_work`	`no one?`
`17:21.35`	`Nugget`	`there is a need for ipv6. it's just that the people who will benefit from ipv6 aren't the people who have to pay for it.`
`17:21.39`	`luke-jr_work`	`I use it at home`
`17:21.44`	`Juggie`	`congradulations`
`17:21.49`	`Ryushin`	`On the digium web site there are two versions of asterisk. asterisk-netsec and just asterisk. They are both 10 mb in size. Don't know what is the right one.`
`17:21.52`	`harryvv`	`I was just skimming on IPv6 in 1998 at the time but thats about it`
`17:22.04`	`Juggie`	`does your isp provide ipv6 or do you get it through a tunnel?`
`17:22.18`	`luke-jr_work`	`Juggie: anycast 6to4`
`17:22.23`	`Juggie`	`wow`
`17:22.25`	`Juggie`	`yuo are special.`
`17:22.26`	`mog`	`what is the need for ipv6?`
`17:22.34`	`SplasPood`	`What card would everyone recommend to terminate a single E1?`
`17:22.38`	`Juggie`	`come talk to me when yuor isp is giving out v6 addresses.`
`17:22.38`	`mog`	`who has that many devices?`
`17:22.38`	`luke-jr_work`	`mog: every device having a public IP =p`
`17:22.40`	`Alystair`	`ip# per bullet :)`
`17:22.42`	`mog`	`why`
`17:22.46`	`mog`	`nat works great`
`17:22.46`	`feld`	`Juggie: hi my isp gives out v6 addresses`
`17:22.57`	`mog`	`i dont want all my machines publically accessible with an ip`
`17:23.05`	`luke-jr_work`	`why? are they insecure?`
`17:23.12`	`Nugget`	`the need is to bring the internet back to being a two-way street, and to increase the supply of IPs.`
`17:23.13`	`feld`	`Juggie: ok im joking but i know where to get them @.`
`17:23.16`	`mog`	`because its easier`
`17:23.19`	`Juggie`	`feld, and yet your host = nat.rucls.net`
`17:23.27`	`*** join/#asterisk zeedo (n=zeedo@reboot-robot.net)`
`17:23.32`	`mog`	`id prefer to have one ip to get to all my machines`
`17:23.35`	`feld`	`Juggie: i know lol i was joking`
`17:23.38`	`luke-jr_work`	`mog: you can't`
`17:23.39`	`feld`	`but i can get v6 addresses`
`17:23.43`	`luke-jr_work`	`one IP can only go to one machine`
`17:23.50`	`Juggie`	`anyone can get v6 addresses`
`17:23.51`	`mog`	`its called a router`
`17:23.54`	`feld`	`i know someone who gives out /64's of ipv6 addys. do the math.`
`17:24.01`	`mog`	`i dont see the point in need it`
`17:24.01`	`luke-jr_work`	`mog: and the router can handle proxying SSH?`
`17:24.02`	`Nugget`	`mog, actually, no it's not called a "router"`
`17:24.04`	`mog`	`er needing it`
`17:24.07`	`mog`	`yeah`
`17:24.27`	`Juggie`	`luke-jr_work, i bet you could ssh into your outside server and then ssh to internal boxes`
`17:24.30`	`Juggie`	`crazy thought`
`17:24.33`	`Juggie`	`but it just might work`
`17:24.54`	`Dr-Linux`	`who has webhosting server?`
`17:24.55`	`luke-jr_work`	`yes, but that's a workaround the hack`
`17:24.57`	`mog`	`im not saying ipv6 is bad`
`17:25.01`	`mog`	`i just dont see the neeed`
`17:25.20`	`Juggie`	`luke-jr_work, personally i dont want all my machines publically adressable`
`17:25.30`	`Juggie`	`i dont disagree w/ nat, i just dont see the point.`
`17:25.42`	`Juggie`	`er, v6 i mean, i just dont see the point`
`17:25.50`	`luke-jr_work`	`why not?`
`17:25.56`	`groogs`	`Anyone know anything about this GUI that digium is planning/building? What's the scope of it .. a gui to setup any asterisk-based service (a gui to the dialplan) or something more specific, for building a pbx/calling card service/voip provider..?`
`17:26.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work: NAT = harder to hack`
`17:26.05`	`Juggie`	`because, why does every machine haev to be publically addressable`
`17:26.06`	`luke-jr_work`	`if you don't want open ports, have a firewall on it`
`17:26.29`	`Juggie`	`luke-jr_work, whats easier to setup, devices behind nat or a firewall for a basic home user?`
`17:26.39`	`mog`	`its easier though luke-jr_work to have a nat`
`17:26.49`	`Nugget`	`it's easier and less secure.`
`17:26.49`	`syzygyBSD`	`Juggie: why not?`
`17:26.51`	`Juggie`	`would you really want to put a switch on your cable modem and give every pc in your house a public ip`
`17:26.57`	`Juggie`	`and trust microsofts firewall`
`17:27.01`	`luke-jr_work`	`Juggie: ...firewall?...`
`17:27.17`	`harryvv`	`juggie, I have had cases where clients did not have there machines on a nat/fw and there ips were controled by Qwest communications. I could not assign our companies industrial printer because the addresses of there work stations always changed. Drove me nuts talking to there tech support line to make them fixed addresses. I should have just sold them a nat/router box :)`
`17:27.17`	`luke-jr_work`	`Microsoft? where do they come into the picture?`
`17:27.18`	`Juggie`	`god dammit you are dumb.`
`17:27.20`	`yatesy`	`no i'd stick a box inbetween :P`
`17:27.32`	`Juggie`	`the average user isnt gonig to buy a hardware firewall if they dont have to`
`17:27.33`	`groogs`	`Juggie: you can still block all inbound with a firewall`
`17:27.41`	`luke-jr_work`	`Juggie: so?`
`17:27.49`	`groogs`	`for example, a lot of universities (that have /16's for some reason) do that`
`17:27.51`	`Juggie`	`so, you want to let all these windows pc's sit on public ips`
`17:27.52`	`harryvv`	`juggie, in my case thay needed one`
`17:28.04`	`luke-jr_work`	`Juggie: no, I want those to die`
`17:28.09`	`Juggie`	`with nothing but a software firewall`
`17:28.09`	`Nugget`	`I had my XP box on a public IP for years and it was never a problem.`
`17:28.21`	`Juggie`	`luke-jr_work, you and your linux box, arnt the only people who user the internet.`
`17:28.29`	`Juggie`	`Nugget, sure if you keep it updated, not everyone does...`
`17:28.54`	`Nugget`	`Now it's behind NAT and I'm not foolish enough to think that NAT is making me one iota safer than I was on my public IP.`
`17:29.04`	`Juggie`	`nat protects alot of vaunerable xp machines that would other wise be unprotected.`
`17:29.04`	`luke-jr_work`	`Juggie: whether or not there are firewalls or NAT, crackers don't want to destroy their only victims`
`17:29.30`	`luke-jr_work`	`NAT is not supposed to be protection`
`17:29.36`	`Juggie`	`nat is protection`
`17:29.41`	`Juggie`	`if the box is not publically adressable`
`17:29.43`	`luke-jr_work`	`only accidentally, if so`
`17:29.49`	`Juggie`	`then it isnt exposed to remote attacks`
`17:30.14`	`harryvv`	`it keeps the internal network from being seen by the outside world and of course expand the ip base.`
`17:30.15`	`Nugget`	`there are better ways to accomplish that sort of protection than NAT.`
`17:30.15`	`mog`	`which is why the rush to ipv6 has not happened`
`17:30.17`	`mog`	`we didnt need it`
`17:30.22`	`Nugget`	`we do need ipv6.`
`17:30.25`	`Nugget`	`there aren't enough IPs`
`17:30.33`	`Juggie`	`there are lots of ips`
`17:30.42`	`Nugget`	`and NAT causes all sorts of connectivity problems and limits application innovation`
`17:30.52`	`luke-jr_work`	`ISPs concerned with cracking and such can use firewalls on their end`
`17:31.00`	`tzanger`	`sivana: where are you at`
`17:31.05`	`luke-jr_work`	`while allowing the intelligent end user to disable them, of course`
`17:31.09`	`justinu\|laptop`	`IPv6 will never happen in this country because ARIN will lose its stranglehold on addressing, and the govt won't be able to track down who's who as easily`
`17:31.12`	`Juggie`	`luke-jr_work, your isp isnt responsible for this.`
`17:31.18`	`Nugget`	`and leads to really horrible hacks like NAT-PMP and UPnP NAT traversal.`
`17:31.38`	`luke-jr_work`	`Juggie: no, but it's in their interests to stop it`
`17:31.42`	`Juggie`	`the average user does not need Upnp`
`17:32.12`	`luke-jr_work`	`there's 2 people who want to stop it; the ISP to save on bandwidth, and the end user to protect their computer`
`17:32.15`	`groogs`	`justinu\|laptop: and at the same time, ipv6 means everyone has an IP, so you can trace down to the invidiual computer, instead of just the network (ie, the ip of the box doing NAT)`
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`17:32.25`	`Nugget`	`Every time I need more IPs I have to fill out a huge form justfying the need and provide a stool sample. It's a pain in the ass. IPv6 would eliminate that artificial scarcity.`
`17:32.30`	`luke-jr_work`	`the ISP can install a single firewall for all users, or the end user can install a Linksys-type firewall`
`17:32.37`	`fearthepenguin`	`Point of clarity, NAT on it's own does nothing for security, it simply changes one IP to another. The security comes from every NAT device that most users have ever come into contact with disallows inbound by default`
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`17:32.56`	`justinu\|laptop`	`groogs: but when I don't have to beg ARIN for addresses, how are they going to know what networks belong to who?`
`17:33.00`	`groogs`	`Nugget: have you looked at this? http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space`
`17:33.09`	`Nugget`	`Juggie: the average user wants to be able to play world of warcraft and download those patches via bittorrent, which means they need some form of nat traversal.`
`17:33.14`	`luke-jr_work`	`justinu\|laptop: networks are still assigned`
`17:33.25`	`justinu\|laptop`	`by whom tho?`
`17:33.26`	`yatesy`	`NAT is horrible horrible, pretty simple :P`
`17:33.29`	`groogs`	`justinu\|laptop: granted i don't know a ton about ipv6, but you can't just arbitrarily take addresses, can you?`
`17:33.30`	`Juggie`	`Nugget, you dont need nat transversal to download off bittorrent`
`17:33.33`	`luke-jr_work`	`someone should make a NAT that by default forwards incoming connections to any and all known local hosts`
`17:33.42`	`justinu\|laptop`	`groogs: typically your ISP assigns you a /64`
`17:33.44`	`*** part/#asterisk brif8 (n=Administ@ns1.ttienterprises.org)`
`17:33.49`	`Nugget`	`Juggie: you do if you want the network as a whole to work.`
`17:33.55`	`fearthepenguin`	`luke-jr_work: multicast`
`17:33.56`	`groogs`	`ah okay, well, that /64 is still you`
`17:33.57`	`justinu\|laptop`	`or a /48 if you ask nicely`
`17:34.10`	`luke-jr_work`	`fearthepenguin: multicast doesn't support TCP`
`17:34.19`	`theborg22`	`im trying to setup 2 t1 with 1 main / 1 backup d channel. I setup the trunkgroup for 1,24,48 but the dchan 48 still claim to be a primary dchan. anyone can help?`
`17:34.20`	`fearthepenguin`	`luke-jr_work: tru`
`17:34.20`	`luke-jr_work`	`ask nicely = $$`
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`17:34.27`	`yatesy`	`luke-jr_work: could just hub your network, same result!`
`17:34.40`	`Juggie`	`Nugget, thats a problem w/ P2P not nat.`
`17:34.40`	`luke-jr_work`	`yatesy: nah, it would only be the incoming connection initiation`
`17:34.53`	`Nugget`	`Juggie: no, it's a problem with NAT which makes P2P less useful.`
`17:34.56`	`luke-jr_work`	`yatesy: first PC to ack the connection gets it delegated`
`17:35.12`	`Nugget`	`P2P is a great idea that's thwarted by NATs crippling limitations`
`17:35.13`	`CunningPike`	`theborg22: I don't think you can combine PRIs with asterisk`
`17:35.20`	`groogs`	`anyway, if you look at the network list, theres a ton of useless ipv4 space. I mean, does Ford Motor co really need a /8 ?`
`17:35.22`	`yatesy`	`too right Nugget`
`17:35.22`	`harryvv`	`groogs interesting. Interesting to see hamradio has a low class a address if thats what I am looking at.`
`17:35.44`	`swytch`	`anyone has a sample config that demonstrates TE-NT loop between two ports on a wildcard ?`
`17:35.47`	`CunningPike`	`theborg22: You will end up with 2 PRI spans`
`17:36.07`	`harryvv`	`Digital equipment is on this list? Thay disolved years ago. Whats with that?`
`17:36.12`	`Juggie`	`groogs, or the us postal service :)`
`17:36.12`	`Nugget`	`The average user sits behind their NAT and wonders why bittorrent is slow and why their video chats never seem to connect. They're being harmed by NAT.`
`17:36.34`	`justinu\|laptop`	`yeah, the idea that NAT is "good enough" is assinine`
`17:36.35`	`Assid`	`i want v6!!!`
`17:36.36`	`Nugget`	`they want to play their cool multiplayer games, but sometimes it doesn't work with their friend in one direction.`
`17:36.37`	`benjk`	`harvvy, DEC was never dissolved`
`17:36.41`	`benjk`	`it was acquired`
`17:36.49`	`yatesy`	`i am sick to death of configuring crappy NAT passthrou bollocks that breaks so many protocols`
`17:36.56`	`theborg22`	`<CunningPike> in the zapata.conf file it specifi: trunkgroup => <trunkgroup>,<dchannel>[,<backup1>...] - backup1 is an optional list of backup d-channels`
`17:37.01`	`benjk`	`all the assets, including trademarks are owned by Compaq and now HP`
`17:37.13`	`luke-jr_work`	`Assid: so get it`
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`17:37.41`	`luke-jr_work`	`Assid: pick up a WRT54GL from newegg and install OpenWrt and some simple 6to4 init scripts`
`17:37.46`	`harryvv`	`benjk I know the intelectual property was sold to intel and ? but what I was saying is the company no longer exist.`
`17:37.56`	`justinu\|laptop`	`you can't get fast ipv6 in this country yet`
`17:38.06`	`justinu\|laptop`	`everything is 6to4 with horrid latency`
`17:38.19`	`yatesy`	`justinu\|laptop: where are you?`
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`17:38.28`	`benjk`	`the intellectual property was acquired by Compaq and then HP, that includes the trademarks`
`17:38.41`	`justinu\|laptop`	`USA`
`17:38.42`	`benjk`	`some assets were sold off, but not the trademarks`
`17:38.44`	`harryvv`	`I thought intel aquired the rights to its CPU`
`17:38.53`	`luke-jr_work`	`justinu\|laptop: < 100ms added by 6to4 for me ;)`
`17:39.01`	`pigpen`	`Hi all...have a nice working dialplan, and I have added in "exten => _80XX,3,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN},30,tmnpwWA(beep))" instead of my normal working "exten => _80XX,3,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN},30,twW)"`
`17:39.02`	`luke-jr_work`	`justinu\|laptop: Sprint recently started a 6to4 relay`
`17:39.03`	`Hymie`	`anyone here using Uniden UIP200s... and managed to get some of the leds to work on demand? such as to show free outgoing lines?`
`17:39.07`	`yatesy`	`would have thought there would be ISPs who have native ipv6 offerings by now in USA`
`17:39.07`	`justinu\|laptop`	`under 100? that's fast?`
`17:39.09`	`Juggie`	`thats 75ms too much`
`17:39.11`	`pigpen`	`however with the new one, the call is rejected from the system`
`17:39.12`	`justinu\|laptop`	`exactly`
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`17:39.26`	`quid246`	`WANG computers, that's a name I will never forget`
`17:39.30`	`yatesy`	`laff`
`17:39.40`	`benjk`	`Intel acquired patents and design for the Alpha chip from Compaq, but that was just one small part of the total portfolio of assets`
`17:39.49`	`dhahn`	`Hi all`
`17:39.49`	`benjk`	`most assets are still with HP today`
`17:40.05`	`harryvv`	`Ohh interesting us postal service is in the class a address block.`
`17:40.13`	`justinu\|laptop`	`yatesy: i think it's purely political that there isn't more widespread adoption of ipv6 in this country.`
`17:40.18`	`*** join/#asterisk dwrecktion (n=dwreckti@71.16.158.170)`
`17:40.20`	`justinu\|laptop`	`it's happening all over the rest of the world`
`17:40.22`	`yatesy`	`heh quite probably`
`17:40.26`	`Assid`	`luke-jr_work: yeah... but i dont wanna change my router now`
`17:40.28`	`luke-jr_work`	`I think it's ISPs wanting $5/extra IP`
`17:40.32`	`dhahn`	`Any hints on why Playback or Background wouldn't work, but, after an extension number is sent, the transfer messages would play without problems?`
`17:40.37`	`quid246`	`I still remember an episode of the Simpsons where Martin wore a t-shirt that said WANG, and some bruhaha was going on and she siad "that hsould distract attention from my T-shirt".`
`17:40.40`	`justinu\|laptop`	`i think it has to do with govt surveillence`
`17:40.44`	`justinu\|laptop`	`and telco monopolies`
`17:40.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Hymie: LED's Which? Don't recall any on mine....`
`17:40.48`	`mut`	`ipv6 blocks cost a fortune to buy`
`17:40.48`	`benjk`	`the name Digital Equipment is still owned by HP today and the company was incorporated into Compaq, then HP, it was not dissolved`
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`17:40.55`	`luke-jr_work`	`mut: what??`
`17:41.03`	`Hymie`	`[TK]D-Fender: the leds for speed dial`
`17:41.17`	`mut`	`the monimum block is huge and it costs like $30,000 for that size`
`17:41.21`	`pigpen`	`Wang Lab's was awsome...who else made a HDD that weighed 300 lbs.`
`17:41.22`	`luke-jr_work`	`mut: my /48 didn't cost me a thing`
`17:41.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Hymie: They HAVE LED's?`
`17:41.23`	`Hymie`	`[TK]D-Fender: and so on.. they can light up, it'd be nice to get them to do so to show outgoing line status`
`17:41.31`	`Hymie`	`sure, see what happens when you power cycle the phone`
`17:41.34`	`*** part/#asterisk ChrisDe3 (n=Chrisde3@port-87-234-139-121.dynamic.qsc.de)`
`17:41.40`	`mut`	`from who?`
`17:41.45`	`harryvv`	`benjk interesting. Anyway i need to get back to work.`
`17:41.55`	`luke-jr_work`	`mut: ISP?`
`17:41.56`	`harryvv`	`wang was a big player in the 1980s. I remember there adds.`
`17:41.57`	`dwrecktion`	`I have a T1 with a 7member digital TG on channels 1-7, E&M wink start with three digit DTMF outpulse, B8ZS/ESF handoff to PBX....how do i configure the zaptel.conf and zapata.conf files for this setup`
`17:42.08`	`justinu\|laptop`	`you get /48 and /64 blocks for free`
`17:42.14`	`justinu\|laptop`	`do you really need more?`
`17:42.35`	`luke-jr_work`	`2002:xxxx:xxxx::/48 is delegated with a single IPv4 address`
`17:42.53`	`quid246`	`CHekc this out... nice hardware... http://www.oldcalculatormuseum.com/wangloci.html`
`17:43.02`	`CunningPike`	`dhahn: Are you answering the channel before your PlayBack()?`
`17:43.04`	`benjk`	`justinu, /48 /64 blocks cost several thousand dollars per month rental over here`
`17:43.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Hymie: Hrm.... in my disgust at them I never noticed....`
`17:43.12`	`dhahn`	`CummingPike: yes`
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`17:43.21`	`dhahn`	`sorry, that was an awful mistype`
`17:43.24`	`mut`	`um..`
`17:43.34`	`justinu\|laptop`	`benjk: who is the numbering authority for v6?`
`17:43.42`	`CunningPike`	`dhahn: rofl - I didn't even notice`
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`17:44.10`	`dhahn`	`It's one of those days already...`
`17:44.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: Pastebin the CLI output of that call....`
`17:44.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~pb`
`17:44.24`	`jbot`	`somebody said pb was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ (BROKEN AND SUCKING NUTS), or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/, or http://paste.lisp.org/ for the lisp/scheme nuts, or http://paste-it.net`
`17:44.30`	`dhahn`	`k`
`17:44.54`	`benjk`	`don't know, justinu, all I know is, ip blocks, whether ip4 or ip6 are extremely expensive over here`
`17:44.56`	`Hymie`	`[TK]D-Fender: they can be controlled, I would guess`
`17:45.03`	`Hymie`	`[TK]D-Fender: how though? ;)`
`17:45.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Hymie: I wouldn't bet on much...`
`17:45.49`	`luke-jr_work`	`benjk: every single IPv4 address comes with an IPv6 /48 block`
`17:46.14`	`justinu\|laptop`	`benjk: at least in the case of v6, it's purely political. obviously there's plenty of numbers in a 128bit address space`
`17:46.21`	`Hymie`	`[TK]D-Fender: I sat in the Lotus Position for about 2 horus, and concentrated on one of those buttons. It lit up dimly, so there MUST be a way`
`17:46.34`	`benjk`	`even single ip addresses are expensive here`
`17:46.35`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/169141`
`17:46.36`	`luke-jr_work`	`justinu\|laptop: only 64bit for practical purposes`
`17:46.44`	`benjk`	`the address cost more than the internet connectivity`
`17:46.51`	`Hymie`	`uh`
`17:46.54`	`Hymie`	`someone is ripping you off`
`17:46.58`	`luke-jr_work`	`justinu\|laptop: half of the address is not arbitrarily assigned`
`17:47.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: nd where is this playback thats not working?`
`17:47.14`	`benjk`	`the majority of internet connections in JP are NAT and even double-NAT addresses`
`17:47.30`	`justinu\|laptop`	`that's because of the auto MAC to address thingy?`
`17:47.35`	`justinu\|laptop`	`inside a subnet`
`17:47.37`	`luke-jr_work`	`benjk: I've heard quite the opposite in Japan regarding internet availability...`
`17:47.40`	`Assid`	`yeah. some isps here actually give you a wan using a nat`
`17:47.41`	`benjk`	`you can have 5Mbit ADSL for 8 USD per month`
`17:47.51`	`Assid`	`benjk: where? who ?`
`17:47.55`	`luke-jr_work`	`If you're behind a NAT, it's not internet connectivity`
`17:47.56`	`pigpen`	`What? Polycom Soundpoint 650?`
`17:48.03`	`benjk`	`but you pay 200 USD for a block of 8 ip addresses on that link`
`17:48.10`	`luke-jr_work`	`it's LAN connectivity with a one-way bridge`
`17:49.12`	`luke-jr_work`	`If some company advertised internet connectivity and just gave me a NAT, I'd go after them for false advertising ;)`
`17:49.15`	`bhrobinson`	`I just installed a sangoma a101 card and when I call in, the phone rings, but will not pick up the channel`
`17:49.21`	`bhrobinson`	`any ideas?`
`17:49.29`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender:http://pastebin.ca/169146 - relevant extensions.conf section`
`17:49.31`	`benjk`	`luke-jr-work, I live here and I can tell you that non-NAT is extremely rare, even for companies`
`17:49.36`	`luke-jr_work`	`bhrobinson: what OS?`
`17:49.41`	`bhrobinson`	`centos`
`17:49.42`	`benjk`	`and fixed addresses`
`17:49.49`	`luke-jr_work`	`benjk: IPv6 even?`
`17:49.53`	`benjk`	`everything is dynamic even business accounts`
`17:50.07`	`benjk`	`and they often knock you off to make your address change`
`17:50.24`	`luke-jr_work`	`with IPv6, they can only really sell connectivity`
`17:50.27`	`*** join/#asterisk Cyt (n=danielcy@athedsl-111849.otenet.gr)`
`17:50.37`	`luke-jr_work`	`not addresses`
`17:50.53`	`benjk`	`for v6 you have to buy service via 6in4 tunneling`
`17:50.53`	`Assid`	`i wish my stupid dlink 524 would allow ipv6`
`17:51.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: on line 3, "s" is not a PRIORITY. and you have not showed anything to indicate that that text context will ever get used.`
`17:51.03`	`pigpen`	`Ok..I will post my question again..since the Wang talks were going heavily at that time....`
`17:51.06`	`luke-jr_work`	`benjk: 6to4 cannot be sold`
`17:51.10`	`pigpen`	`Hi all...have a nice working dialplan, and I have added in "exten => _80XX,3,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN},30,tmnpwWA(beep))" instead of my normal working "exten => _80XX,3,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN},30,twW)"`
`17:51.20`	`pigpen`	`however with the new one, the call is rejected from the system`
`17:51.24`	`benjk`	`here i Japan they charge you anyway`
`17:51.24`	`bhrobinson`	`luke-jr_work, any ideas?`
`17:51.25`	`luke-jr_work`	`Assid: can't install OpenWrt?`
`17:51.32`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: So, assigning the priority numbers should help that?`
`17:51.37`	`luke-jr_work`	`benjk: it's impossible to`
`17:51.45`	`pigpen`	`ideas?`
`17:51.48`	`Assid`	`on a dlink ?`
`17:51.53`	`Juggie`	`http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html`
`17:51.56`	`luke-jr_work`	`Assid: OpenWrt has a wide range of supported hardware`
`17:51.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: that line is BROKEN. it should be priority 1, not "s".`
`17:52.10`	`benjk`	`well, at the very least its on the service menu of some ISPs`
`17:52.34`	`luke-jr_work`	`benjk: just grab a OpenWrt-compatible router =p`
`17:52.45`	`Assid`	`i wonder if dd-wrt works`
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`17:52.49`	`pigpen`	`doesn't monowall handle ipv6?`
`17:52.54`	`luke-jr_work`	`6to4 does require a IPv4 public address tho`
`17:53.03`	`benjk`	`the universities and some large tech companies have connections to some 6bone research network`
`17:53.05`	`pigpen`	`if so, just get a soekris.`
`17:53.28`	`DrkShdw`	`WRAP!`
`17:53.39`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender:can you give me the fixed line, I tried what I thought you meant, and no change`
`17:53.48`	`_DAW`	`:/`
`17:53.53`	`benjk`	`I didn;t say there are no public addresses, I said they charge you quite a bit of money for non-dynamic addresses`
`17:53.58`	`pigpen`	`DrkShdw, or a wrap...about $80 cheaper.`
`17:54.07`	`pigpen`	`but...the soekris's are very solid.`
`17:54.09`	`luke-jr_work`	`benjk: well, why can't you use a dynamic address?`
`17:54.16`	`DrkShdw`	`a wrap (or soekris) plus pfsense and you are ok with ipv6`
`17:54.18`	`pigpen`	`we have about 200 deployed.`
`17:54.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: Pastebin it and tell me what you are trying to do to test it.`
`17:54.24`	`dwrecktion`	`I have a T1 with a 7member digital TG on channels 1-7, E&M wink start with three digit DTMF outpulse, B8ZS/ESF handoff to PBX....how do i configure the zaptel.conf and zapata.conf files for this setup`
`17:54.39`	`DrkShdw`	`we have about 90 wraps deployed. also a good unit, nearly same hardware in most aspects`
`17:54.55`	`benjk`	`because they reset the connection all the time`
`17:55.12`	`pigpen`	`cool...I haven't heard much about the reliability.`
`17:55.25`	`benjk`	`dynamic ips usually bring you hassle`
`17:55.44`	`luke-jr_work`	`benjk: how so? how about IIJ?`
`17:55.45`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender:http://pastebin.ca/169157`
`17:55.57`	`benjk`	`if you can afford it, sure`
`17:56.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: Line 3 still has the "s" as a priority....`
`17:56.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: And then tell me what you are doing to test this....`
`17:56.46`	`benjk`	`the best value for money is certainly with USEN`
`17:57.12`	`benjk`	`55 USD per month for 100Mbit fiber with a block of 8 ips`
`17:57.21`	`benjk`	`but thats the execption`
`17:57.27`	`benjk`	`and not available everwhere`
`17:57.38`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: Got it, I was looking in the text context. To test; i'm using a dial command at the asterisk cli`
`17:58.53`	`Assid`	`nah.. doesnt suport mine`
`17:59.08`	`luke-jr_work`	`benjk: that would cost quite a bit more in the US`
`17:59.15`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: Updated to - http://pastebin.ca/169161`
`17:59.36`	`benjk`	`yes, but like I said, its the exception and not available everywhere`
`18:00.13`	`Assid`	`benjk: usen ?`
`18:00.26`	`benjk`	`yes USEN`
`18:00.39`	`Assid`	`dsl ?`
`18:00.44`	`benjk`	`started out as a pirate cable radio operation`
`18:00.50`	`benjk`	`in Osaka`
`18:01.19`	`benjk`	`they deployed their radio cable network without any permissions and never paid any royalties on the music either`
`18:01.20`	`Assid`	`you got their url?`
`18:01.56`	`quid246`	`anyone ever had "console freezing" issues via SSH?`
`18:02.10`	`benjk`	`when the son of the founder took over the company, he wanted to get legal and so he obtained all the permits and paid all the back royalties and then got investment for building a fiber network`
`18:02.23`	`benjk`	`now they do FTTH (not DSL)`
`18:02.53`	`Assid`	`they available in new york?`
`18:03.02`	`benjk`	`http://www.usen.com/corporate/en/group.shtml`
`18:03.04`	`benjk`	`no, in Japan`
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`18:03.16`	`Assid`	`crap`
`18:03.20`	`benjk`	`heh`
`18:03.24`	`Assid`	`thye got sooo much bandwith down there`
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`18:03.35`	`quid246`	`You spend a week in Japan, and then come back here.. you feel like you are coming back intot he stone age`
`18:03.37`	`Assid`	`i wonder how much a dedicated server there`
`18:04.10`	`quid246`	`here being the rest of the world`
`18:04.31`	`quid246`	`Assid; Make sure the DC has good earthquake protection`
`18:05.18`	`quid246`	`I felt a 5.5 while taking a shower when I was in Tokyo once... felt off-balanec, thought it was from dirnking the night before.`
`18:06.17`	`Assid`	`damn`
`18:06.39`	`harryvv`	`heheh`
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`18:06.50`	`harryvv`	`small tremblers are a good thing`
`18:07.28`	`Assid`	`where else is a good place for dedicated servers?`
`18:07.29`	`quid246`	`It's so common there there was no news bulletin on it so I went half the day thinking I had a hangover until my friend asked me if I felt the earth movie... but too bad it wasn't with her. hahah`
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`18:07.48`	`quid246`	`Assid: Depends what you want to do and your target.`
`18:08.00`	`harryvv`	`One day a mega thrust earthquake will be released by the north american plate and every state from california to BC canada will be hit by it if the entire falt line rips which it has in the past.`
`18:08.03`	`quid246`	`Germany apparently has alot of good deals on unmetered fast servers`
`18:08.04`	`Assid`	`basic hosting.. web/email etc`
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`18:08.32`	`luke-jr_work`	`quid246: know of any that have English sites/support?`
`18:08.39`	`kaimis`	`hello`
`18:08.54`	`quid246`	`luke: Not offhand, go to webhostingtalk and in there dedicated forum and ask there`
`18:08.59`	`quid246`	`webhostingtlak.com`
`18:09.03`	`quid246`	`oops webhostingtalk.com`
`18:09.26`	`quid246`	`Assid: If it's just for yourself, get a VPS`
`18:09.28`	`Assid`	`any you know with good support.. wih boxes around 100 bucks?`
`18:09.37`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: Still here?`
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`18:09.52`	`quid246`	`Assid: You can get dedi's as low as $60... unmanaged though, you have to do all the admin on them`
`18:10.04`	`quid246`	`Check out LayeredTech`
`18:10.14`	`quid246`	`Check for closeouts.`
`18:10.15`	`kaimis`	`is anybody used kphone vs asterisk ?`
`18:10.39`	`luke-jr_work`	`...`
`18:10.40`	`luke-jr_work`	`vs?`
`18:10.49`	`Assid`	`yeah thats what i want.. BUT.. alot of it.. they give you 0 support.. as in incidents are charged per ticket`
`18:10.51`	`Assid`	`even reboots`
`18:11.12`	`luke-jr_work`	`Assid: FDCServers has been working decent for me`
`18:11.27`	`luke-jr_work`	`for US-based hosting`
`18:11.41`	`Assid`	`fdcservers.com?`
`18:12.08`	`luke-jr_work`	`yeah`
`18:12.09`	`vader--`	`damn im getting complaints of echo's on my sip phones`
`18:12.14`	`luke-jr_work`	`I have a VPS with them`
`18:12.20`	`vader--`	`i dont hear them but people are saying they are getting them`
`18:12.23`	`vader--`	`mostly on outside calls`
`18:12.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: Now again... what are you doing to test it?`
`18:13.03`	`quid246`	`Assid: Just make sure they have reboots via web. AFAIK most places don't charge for reboots`
`18:13.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: Pleas include CLI output of what it is you are doing and explainwhat you think should be happening and what you think is failing.`
`18:13.39`	`mountainm2k`	`OK, have an issue w/ voicemail... Problem is solved, but I'd like to know why it happened... http://pastebin.ca/169178`
`18:13.56`	`quid246`	`Assid: And if you're shy on Unix admin/security just get a management company like Rack911 to help you out`
`18:14.52`	`Assid`	`quid246: some do.. and if you need them to just do simple task.. like maybe run a command for you.. or boot another kernel .. some act pricey`
`18:15.22`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: Details in http://pastebin.ca/169183`
`18:15.33`	`luke-jr_work`	`Is there a such thing as a server with <100ms ping to US and Europe?`
`18:15.35`	`swytch`	`i get this when compiling zaptel-trunk, is it severe? WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.2/Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.`
`18:16.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: Dial out on what SIP line? You mean have * INITIATE a call (automated) and after the call is answered then dump them in that test IVR?`
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`18:19.32`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: Yes. The SIP associated with the globotech context in my sip.conf. Yes, have * initiate a call and, when answered, move the into the test IVR`
`18:20.28`	`quid246`	`assid: the fourm I gave you is good place to ask.. VPS is good option to, because you can back it up before doing something "risky".. and if doesn't work, restore from backup and 2 minutes later you are back to where you started`
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`18:23.00`	`Assid`	`nah.. i use it for hosting others`
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`18:24.03`	`quid246`	`ok`
`18:24.07`	`quid246`	`then you need a real box`
`18:24.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: Read about ".call" files ont he WIKI. thats what you'll want`
`18:24.32`	`stunod7`	`Anyone have a second to give a couple thoughts on a system i'd like to try an implement?`
`18:24.43`	`viler`	`hi, does anyone know how disable call waiting in asterisk ?`
`18:24.57`	`mountainm2k`	`stunod7: go ahead`
`18:25.06`	`stunod7`	`I work in an office where we have a digital PBX type system, i'm not sure exactly what make/model. I'd want to build an asterisk system that takes an incoming call (so I'd need a way of bringing a single digital phone connection into the machine, is that even possible?) and then forward it over to a wireless IP based phone? I guess my ultimate goal is to have my desk extension ring my desk and a wireless phone I'd carry around.`
`18:26.00`	`mountainm2k`	`stunod7: Lots of mfr's make wireless phones for digital key systems and PBX's`
`18:26.16`	`stunod7`	`yeah, but that would require support from our telcom department`
`18:26.19`	`mountainm2k`	`stunod7: unfortunately the selection of WIFI SIP phones is very limted, but there are a few other options...`
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`18:26.41`	`stunod7`	`the linksys WIP300 and 330 seem to support our wireless configuration we use at work`
`18:27.03`	`mountainm2k`	`stunod7: But you're not going to be able to bring a digital extension from your proprietary key system into your asterisk box`
`18:27.21`	`stunod7`	`that's the part i couldn't find much info on`
`18:27.53`	`mountainm2k`	`stunod7: Yeah, there are boxes available (at great expense) that connect proprietary digital phones to *`
`18:28.03`	`mountainm2k`	`but that's mostly so you can impliment asterisk and use your old phones`
`18:28.10`	`mountainm2k`	`I don't really recommend that solution tho`
`18:28.22`	`stunod7`	`i was just looking to tinker more than anything.`
`18:28.24`	`mountainm2k`	`stunod7: One other thought -- if all you want is a wireless connected to your desk phone`
`18:28.40`	`mountainm2k`	`stunod7: check out hellodirect -- they have wireless headsets that do that...`
`18:28.42`	`rollergrrl`	`Does G729 over an IAX trunk at 30k/channel sound high?`
`18:28.56`	`stunod7`	`i was looking for something that I could roam with across the building`
`18:29.12`	`mountainm2k`	`stunod7: Look for their long-range headsets... Or give them a call.`
`18:29.12`	`stunod7`	`our buildings are, for the most part, blanketed with wifi`
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`18:29.22`	`mountainm2k`	`stunod7: but * is probably not your solution...`
`18:29.30`	`mountainm2k`	`stunod7: They have 5.2GHz headsets`
`18:29.36`	`mountainm2k`	`stunod7: Well clear of wifi`
`18:29.38`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: I've read about those and the call manager, but, I thought I needed to test the IVR this way first to make sure it worked`
`18:29.48`	`mountainm2k`	`Off to lunch, CYL...`
`18:29.53`	`stunod7`	`thanks for your help`
`18:30.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: then just dial S@{context]`
`18:30.49`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: would "dial number@context" do what you mean?`
`18:30.52`	`dhahn`	`at the CLI?`
`18:30.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sure`
`18:31.04`	`dhahn`	`that's what I'm doing`
`18:31.23`	`dhahn`	`the call goes out, rings, but playback never seems to work`
`18:31.31`	`dhahn`	`I don't hear anything when I answer`
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`18:33.32`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: However, if I try to dial an extension, the following prompts play correctly`
`18:33.39`	`dhahn`	`Just not the initial`
`18:33.47`	`dhahn`	`That's what's confusing me`
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`18:44.15`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: brb`
`18:46.15`	`ghenry`	`looks interesting: http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/aadk.php`
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`18:47.30`	`momelod`	`hey people, anyone know where i can download asterisk-stat? the main site seems to be down`
`18:48.37`	`aydiosmio`	`the site is working fine`
`18:48.47`	`momelod`	`hrmmm.. whats the link u have?`
`18:48.57`	`aydiosmio`	`http://www.areski.net/asterisk-stat-v2/asterisk-stat-v2_0_1.tar.gz`
`18:49.40`	`momelod`	`yeah, that times out for me.. perhaps there was dns update that hasnt reached me yet.. what ip do u get for www.areski.net?`
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`18:51.13`	`aydiosmio`	`213.186.33.19`
`18:51.50`	`justinu\|laptop`	`~seen r_evolution`
`18:52.12`	`jbot`	`r_evolution <i=r_evolut@208.251.203.246> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 18h 16m 8s ago, saying: 'realtime or flat file'.`
`18:52.12`	`ghenry`	`what are your thoughts on http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/aadk.php it?`
`18:52.12`	`aydiosmio`	`it's on a virtual webhost`
`18:52.12`	`aydiosmio`	`yuo can't access the website that way`
`18:52.22`	`aydiosmio`	`ghenry: IT SICKS!`
`18:52.27`	`aydiosmio`	`IT SUCKS ASS!`
`18:52.34`	`aydiosmio`	`that okay?`
`18:52.41`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: you think they'll be an uptake?`
`18:52.47`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: fine, yeah ;-)`
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`18:53.29`	`aydiosmio`	`what's an uptake?`
`18:53.58`	`ghenry`	`adoption by businesses aydiosmio`
`18:54.10`	`aydiosmio`	`why would business use a 4-line PBX?`
`18:54.38`	`aydiosmio`	`ghenry: it's a fine piece of hardware`
`18:54.40`	`aydiosmio`	`who cares`
`18:54.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: Depends how big a business....`
`18:54.56`	`aydiosmio`	`[TK]D-Fender: of course`
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`18:55.06`	`aydiosmio`	`but I really don't understand his inquiry`
`18:55.06`	`hypa7ia`	`the pbx i'm working on today is 4 fxo`
`18:55.13`	`aydiosmio`	`lol hy hyps`
`18:55.14`	`ghenry`	`yeah, I'm thinking of general market, but I'm sure it will be pushed in US before it would hit the UK`
`18:55.26`	`hypa7ia`	`sup ADYo`
`18:55.38`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: I was just after the general communities feeling on it, that's all`
`18:55.53`	`aydiosmio`	`I got sphinx to do voice dialing, speak a phone number and * will dial it`
`18:56.21`	`aydiosmio`	`trying to build dynamic sphinx dictionaries so customers can say address book names and dial the corresponding number from our db`
`18:56.28`	`hypa7ia`	`aydiosmio: nice`
`18:56.38`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: cool`
`18:57.05`	`aydiosmio`	`ghenry: I'm sure it will have it's applications`
`18:57.11`	`aydiosmio`	`like this client I have now`
`18:57.15`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: true`
`18:57.21`	`aydiosmio`	`needs 4 sip phones`
`18:57.32`	`aydiosmio`	`project budget is arouns $2500`
`18:57.42`	`hypa7ia`	`polycom for teh win`
`18:57.55`	`ghenry`	`first volumes say $4k for kit though`
`18:58.02`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: this you? http://turnkey-solution.com/asterisk-sphinx.html`
`18:58.40`	`aydiosmio`	`no, that's the reference page I used though`
`18:58.48`	`ghenry`	`ah`
`18:58.58`	`aydiosmio`	`the client-server model doesn't lend itself to dynamic dictionaries`
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`18:59.11`	`ghenry`	`looks like the appliance isn't aimed at ends users, but a platform for us to tailor for our clients`
`18:59.11`	`aydiosmio`	`so I'm rewriting the scripts to spawn their own processes`
`18:59.19`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: In Perl?`
`18:59.24`	`aydiosmio`	`perl, yes`
`19:00.13`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: Make sure you stick use strict; and use warnings; on them ;-) I've edited almost all Perl programms on the voip-info to include these. It really is very bad practice not to have them. But, there you go ;-)`
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`19:00.47`	`aydiosmio`	`eh, I don't have time to use strict!`
`19:01.16`	`kratzers`	`are channel variables available to macros?`
`19:02.17`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: well don't write the programms then! ;-)`
`19:02.28`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: saves you many headaches`
`19:02.37`	`ghenry`	`aanyway, each to own. nice chatting aydiosmio`
`19:03.06`	`aydiosmio`	`later`
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`19:04.36`	`luke-jr_work`	`why might Asterisk not be detecting when a Cisco 7960 is put on hold?`
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`19:05.39`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: ping me on perlmonks.org if I can help with anything http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=386673`
`19:05.51`	`aydiosmio`	`will do`
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`19:06.10`	`aydiosmio`	`luke-jr_work: call waiting?`
`19:07.12`	`luke-jr_work`	`aydiosmio: ?`
`19:08.20`	`aydiosmio`	`if call waiting is enabled on the line the phone won't come back busy`
`19:08.42`	`aydiosmio`	`oh, you're asking.. nm`
`19:08.46`	`aydiosmio`	`forget I said anything`
`19:12.10`	`BigBadHoss`	`can i route a FXS card though ethernet? I am just starting out, sorry for the noob questions`
`19:12.59`	`hypa7ia`	`BigBadHoss: i'm not quite sure what you mean,b ut probably not`
`19:13.15`	`hypa7ia`	`different size jacks for starters :)`
`19:13.53`	`aydiosmio`	`heh`
`19:14.05`	`aydiosmio`	`yeah I don't even know where to begin to answer that question`
`19:14.29`	`BigBadHoss`	`do i need a separate fxs card for each line, or can i use a t1 switch`
`19:15.25`	`aydiosmio`	`whoa.`
`19:15.34`	`eject_ck`	`Hi all ! How make extention to ask additional number and then call to it`
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`19:15.55`	`hypa7ia`	`BigBadHoss: what are you trying to do? let's start there :)`
`19:16.21`	`chadkouse`	`Hey guys.. I'm trying to figure out a way to logout or pause dynamic members of a queue after they don't answer a call...`
`19:16.22`	`_DAW`	`:)`
`19:16.34`	`kratzers`	`hmm`
`19:16.54`	`BigBadHoss`	`i want a * system that takes 3 pstn lines, and then for the FXS I want to have 3 ip phones and an ATA`
`19:17.12`	`_DAW`	`you dont need fxs for ip phones`
`19:17.22`	`BigBadHoss`	`you use use ethernet?`
`19:17.26`	`hypa7ia`	`yeah`
`19:17.39`	`_DAW`	`sip or iax`
`19:17.39`	`BigBadHoss`	`and for the ATA?`
`19:17.39`	`hypa7ia`	`that's why they are IP phones`
`19:17.39`	`ghenry`	`BigBadHoss: "IP" Phones ;-)`
`19:17.39`	`_DAW`	`again sip or iax`
`19:17.44`	`BigBadHoss`	`ok good`
`19:17.47`	`ghenry`	`or H323`
`19:17.52`	`hypa7ia`	`BigBadHoss: an ata goes from IP -> analog`
`19:18.01`	`harryvv`	`Big, asterisk generates the signaling for the phones. no FXS card needed nor would it work.`
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`19:18.36`	`BigBadHoss`	`ok so i just need an extra ethernet card and a switch for my phone network of IP phones and ATAs?`
`19:18.39`	`harryvv`	`You need three FXO cards or one card for those incomming pstn lines.`
`19:18.50`	`hypa7ia`	`BigBadHoss: you don't even need the extra ethernet card`
`19:19.16`	`hypa7ia`	`one 3-port card is i think what harryvv means :)`
`19:19.36`	`hypa7ia`	`BigBadHoss: just make sure the * is on the same network as the phones`
`19:19.39`	`BigBadHoss`	`well, i have it in the mobo`
`19:19.40`	`harryvv`	`I was going to say that considering there would be irq issues ;)`
`19:19.43`	`hypa7ia`	`that's fine`
`19:19.43`	`BigBadHoss`	`brb`
`19:20.02`	`chadkouse`	`I see an "autopause" feature of queues.conf in SVN but I don't know when that will be available in a branch build`
`19:20.09`	`aydiosmio`	`good luck finding a 3-port fxo:)`
`19:20.13`	`harryvv`	`hehe`
`19:20.16`	`harryvv`	`4 port!`
`19:20.16`	`harryvv`	`:)`
`19:21.19`	`chadkouse`	`any help ?`
`19:21.29`	`kratzers`	`I'd like the same macro that handles internal extensions to handle queued calls, so I'd like it to have a test to see if the call is a queued call (so it doens't pass it to VM). Can I set a variable, say is_queue_call = 1, and test on that in the macro?`
`19:22.33`	`aydiosmio`	`I'm continually impressed by the silly crap people think up for asterisk to do`
`19:22.45`	`chadkouse`	`lol`
`19:23.11`	`kratzers`	`also, could I just test the channel variable, or would I have to pass it as an argument to the macro?`
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`19:25.18`	`kratzers`	`ECHO ECho echo`
`19:25.32`	`hmmhesays`	`blargh`
`19:25.33`	`harryvv`	`aydiosmio I have thought of selling a dial in automated exchange rate service to cross border retailers. The retailer calls a number asterisk ask for the dollar amount and then gives the exchange for that amount. Problem is I dont know if its a really needed service but I have seen in some cases the retailer could not except the money because thay had a line of customers and no way to convert. I think for few dollars a month it would be`
`19:25.38`	`harryvv`	`Its just one idea.`
`19:25.40`	`hmmhesays`	`i see your echo and raise you a banana`
`19:26.09`	`aydiosmio`	`harryvv: you totally lost me dude`
`19:26.15`	`aydiosmio`	`Bananaphone`
`19:26.28`	`feld`	`ring ring ring ring`
`19:26.56`	`feld`	`BANANAPHONE!`
`19:26.59`	`chadkouse`	`so anyone know any way to auto-pause or auto-logout a dynamic member of a queue after they miss a call? I've only been trying for oh I dunno.. 3 weeks or so...`
`19:27.08`	`harryvv`	`aydiosmio retailers in canada/use who work on the border often get different monatary from the host country and dont have the current exchange rate to give back change for a item purchaced.`
`19:27.18`	`aydiosmio`	`oh`
`19:27.20`	`aydiosmio`	`gotcha`
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`19:27.30`	`chadkouse`	`if I can figure this out I can finally cut the whole place over to the new * box...`
`19:27.41`	`harryvv`	`so a asterisk to exchange db solution would work.`
`19:29.20`	`aydiosmio`	`in theory`
`19:30.29`	`Assid`	`hrmm i wonder how people use asterisk to be able to expand in such a way that no matter what server you register to, thats where the calls will get routed from`
`19:30.29`	`aydiosmio`	`perl + agi + pg/my/mssql`
`19:30.29`	`Assid`	`aydiosmio: modified register function?`
`19:30.32`	`chadkouse`	`can anyone read this ?`
`19:30.35`	`aydiosmio`	`don't ask me`
`19:30.40`	`aydiosmio`	`I was answering harryvv`
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`19:30.59`	`aydiosmio`	`chadkouse: quit being a pest`
`19:31.07`	`hmmhesays`	`Assid failure routes in ser would be one way`
`19:31.12`	`chadkouse`	`lol WTF?`
`19:31.29`	`chadkouse`	`all you have to say is "no I don't know how to do that" and I would have moved on..`
`19:31.45`	`ghenry`	`chadkouse: what about a ring strategy of memory, and set a agent timeout?`
`19:32.04`	`chadkouse`	`ghenry: that would work -- but these aren't agents.. they're dynamic members..`
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`19:32.18`	`ghenry`	`chadkouse: that login themselves?`
`19:32.30`	`chadkouse`	`I was reading where digium was trying to move entirely to dynamic members instead of the "agentcallbacklogin/logoff" routines`
`19:32.36`	`chadkouse`	`no it's a manual login.`
`19:32.45`	`chadkouse`	`this is just in the case that the agent doesn't logout but is away from their desk`
`19:32.47`	`ghenry`	`chadkouse: Aye, that's what I meant`
`19:32.54`	`ghenry`	`chadkouse: worded badly`
`19:33.06`	`chadkouse`	`I don't want to keep wasting time distributing calls to an empty desk`
`19:33.12`	`ghenry`	`yup`
`19:33.37`	`ghenry`	`chadkouse: if they manually login, why can't you have a policy that they manually logout?`
`19:33.46`	`chadkouse`	`that would indeed be the policy!`
`19:33.52`	`ghenry`	`I know that's not what you are asking ;-)`
`19:34.05`	`ghenry`	`Yeah, people are lazy though`
`19:34.05`	`chadkouse`	`but have you ever worked with call center people ?`
`19:34.19`	`chadkouse`	`they couldn't give a shit about their job :)`
`19:34.20`	`ghenry`	`I understand ;-)`
`19:34.24`	`chadkouse`	`and I can't say I blame them.. heh`
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`19:34.28`	`ghenry`	`aye`
`19:34.41`	`ghenry`	`well how would you want it to work`
`19:34.57`	`chadkouse`	`It would be great to just log them out or pause them after they miss a call`
`19:35.10`	`chadkouse`	`which is how our current system works (via nortel switch)`
`19:35.15`	`ghenry`	`it would have to ring first no, then remember that noone answered. Is that not the purpose of memory hunt?`
`19:35.35`	`ghenry`	`more of a ringall, memory`
`19:35.39`	`chadkouse`	`i think memory hunt just remembers who answered last and starts with the next person`
`19:35.46`	`ghenry`	`yup`
`19:35.48`	`CunningPike`	`chadkouse: autopause is in SVN trunk, apparently`
`19:35.49`	`chadkouse`	`it doesn't keep a memory of who's there and who's not`
`19:35.50`	`ghenry`	`thinking`
`19:36.08`	`chadkouse`	`CunningPike: yeah I saw that -- but I have no idea when it'll be in a branch release...`
`19:36.17`	`chadkouse`	`I could try building a trunk release but.. scary..`
`19:36.23`	`CunningPike`	`I hear ya`
`19:36.33`	`ghenry`	`aye`
`19:36.40`	`CunningPike`	`1.4 == RSN(tm)`
`19:36.55`	`ghenry`	`CunningPike: there's lots of way cool stuff in svn`
`19:37.18`	`harryvv`	`like what`
`19:37.24`	`CunningPike`	`ghenry: I know - we're waiting for 1.4beta......`
`19:37.28`	`ghenry`	`Ii'm trying to spend more time on http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5768`
`19:37.44`	`ghenry`	`how long to astricon?`
`19:38.02`	`ghenry`	`CunningPike: I'm suretec on that list ;-)`
`19:38.07`	`stephane_`	`soir`
`19:38.39`	`ghenry`	`CunningPike: scroll down and read some of rockys posts. Poor guy doesn't now where to start. Wrong place to post ;-)`
`19:39.20`	`eject_ck`	`Hi all again`
`19:39.21`	`eject_ck`	`I have in my Office PBX with 101 to 124 numbers, how make that I call by SIP to my Sipura and then add additional number of my internal phone`
`19:39.32`	`chadkouse`	`I was really hoping to see autopause in this latest * release`
`19:39.34`	`aydiosmio`	`chadkouse: wouldn't giving a login an idle timout work similarly?`
`19:39.46`	`chadkouse`	`but I don't think it's there.. it's not in the queues.conf sample file anyway`
`19:39.51`	`aydiosmio`	`automatically logging off operators with no activity inside of 10 minutes?`
`19:40.06`	`chadkouse`	`aydiosmio: possibly... it's a hack.. but might work...`
`19:40.16`	`ghenry`	`CunningPike: I wasn't slagging him off btw`
`19:40.41`	`CunningPike`	`ghenry: Didn't look like it - he just blundered into the wrong room`
`19:40.59`	`ghenry`	`Aye. ;-)`
`19:41.03`	`BigBadHoss`	`whats so special about this 1.4 version, digg article even said it had a new gui?`
`19:41.04`	`chadkouse`	`i wonder if I could make a script that would just constantly read the queue_log for whenever a call goes unanswered.`
`19:41.33`	`aydiosmio`	`that's even more hacky!`
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`19:41.42`	`ghenry`	`BigBadHoss: GUi is for developers. is how I read it`
`19:41.44`	`chadkouse`	`ah crap queue_log doesn't show when an agent doesn't ansewr`
`19:41.59`	`aydiosmio`	`chadkouse: could you not write that into the dialplan?`
`19:42.01`	`chadkouse`	`aydiosmio: more hacky but more accurate too -- trade off.. but it won't work anyway so.. poof`
`19:42.18`	`BigBadHoss`	`oh, you mean in that developers kit?`
`19:42.24`	`aydiosmio`	`if (callstatus==unanswered logoff(exten))`
`19:42.29`	`chadkouse`	`aydiosmio: I don't think you can because the dialplan calls Queue()`
`19:42.46`	`chadkouse`	`and Queue just kinda does it's thing THEN returns the call status..`
`19:42.47`	`ghenry`	`BigBadHoss: That's how I read it. Go to the bottom of the page on Digium sight. THere's a vert good Q&A pdf I jsut read`
`19:43.00`	`chadkouse`	`ie.. either after it's been distributed or all the agents are logged out/paused`
`19:43.01`	`ghenry`	`s/sight/site`
`19:43.03`	`aydiosmio`	`ah`
`19:43.38`	`chadkouse`	`s/ght/te ;)`
`19:44.11`	`ghenry`	`chadkouse: it's been in a while now: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-commits/2006-January/000829.html`
`19:44.16`	`hmmhesays`	`holy embarressing, they made a lady change her clothes because she smelled bad on "airline"`
`19:44.16`	`mishehu`	`ael, a nice idea that should have been the original extensions.conf. can't even handle a fricking switch/case properly (at least according to the example on http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+AEL )`
`19:44.31`	`chadkouse`	`ghenry: you mean "in svn" ?`
`19:44.37`	`ghenry`	`aye`
`19:44.38`	`aydiosmio`	`chadkouse: well heck, then go in and edit queue.c or whatever`
`19:44.49`	`chadkouse`	`aydiosmio: I've thought of it...`
`19:45.08`	`aydiosmio`	`not like you're trying to add SIMPLE to SIP or anything.`
`19:45.10`	`ghenry`	`bye ;-)`
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`19:45.36`	`chadkouse`	`yeah I know -- that's why I'm always shocked to never see it included in a build`
`19:45.43`	`aydiosmio`	`not like you're trying to add SIMPLE to SIP or anything.`
`19:46.03`	`chadkouse`	`aydiosmio: sorry I might have missed a line.. damn client closed on me.`
`19:46.09`	`aydiosmio`	`i saw`
`19:46.18`	`aydiosmio`	`maybe no one has suggested it`
`19:47.30`	`chadkouse`	`I'm just amazed that app_queue hasn't been changed in the builds in so long`
`19:47.44`	`aydiosmio`	`it's definitely back-burner`
`19:47.52`	`aydiosmio`	`it's not the most robust feature.`
`19:47.54`	`chadkouse`	`apparently.`
`19:48.18`	`aydiosmio`	`for freepbx as well`
`19:48.30`	`aydiosmio`	`you can't set up dynamic queue members with it`
`19:48.38`	`aydiosmio`	`which is beyond irritating`
`19:49.08`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: patch? ;-)`
`19:49.14`	`aydiosmio`	`to lazy`
`19:49.21`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: Wrong answer`
`19:49.22`	`aydiosmio`	`got enough work to do at work.`
`19:49.24`	`ghenry`	`too busy ;-)`
`19:49.35`	`ghenry`	`no ones ever too lazy`
`19:49.38`	`aydiosmio`	`well, I'm not too busy after work`
`19:49.39`	`ghenry`	`always too busy`
`19:49.46`	`ghenry`	`ah no excuse '-)`
`19:49.51`	`chadkouse`	`aydiosmio: yeah I am actually using FreePBX -- had to jump through a few hoops to get that working.`
`19:49.52`	`aydiosmio`	`but more asterisk bs after work is like... not leaving work`
`19:50.17`	`hmmhesays`	`so true`
`19:50.17`	`aydiosmio`	`I've been using * in the trixbox distribution exclusively since my second install`
`19:50.23`	`ghenry`	`you've gone past the "this is cool as f**k" stage then aydiosmio ;-)`
`19:50.37`	`aydiosmio`	`oh it still is`
`19:50.43`	`ghenry`	`aye`
`19:50.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trixbox....BLEH`
`19:50.52`	`ghenry`	`lots of nasty Perl in FreePBX to help with`
`19:50.58`	`aydiosmio`	`but ture I did spend more than a few nights at home tinkering`
`19:51.01`	`chadkouse`	`wow.. this mod to app_queues.c looks pretty painless`
`19:51.07`	`aydiosmio`	`[TK]D-Fender: yeah yeah.`
`19:51.13`	`ghenry`	`[TK]D-Fender: Did you say trixbloat?`
`19:51.35`	`aydiosmio`	`yeah well you all didn't install trixbox on an EPIA and have it work flawlessly`
`19:51.45`	`aydiosmio`	`so you can't appreciate it`
`19:51.45`	`ghenry`	`I like it, but too many services not off by default is my only complaint. and too many system admin apps`
`19:51.53`	`eject_ck`	`how make call X-lite - > ASTERISK -> Sipura 3k - > PBX -> internal phone`
`19:52.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ghenry: By association ;)`
`19:52.05`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: I like, don't get me wrong`
`19:52.06`	`aydiosmio`	`make call with finger`
`19:52.21`	`eject_ck`	`I can make reverse call - from internal to X-lite`
`19:52.26`	`chadkouse`	`was that a sentence ?`
`19:52.32`	`ghenry`	`I waitin gto buy a soekirs 4801-60 and astlinux later this month`
`19:52.35`	`ghenry`	`when I get some time`
`19:52.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: Instead I have * install on any number of regular PC's and have it work flawlessly the way I want it to :)`
`19:52.48`	`tzanger`	`woot`
`19:52.52`	`tzanger`	`that fucking PLC's my bitch now`
`19:53.05`	`ghenry`	`[TK]D-Fender: You rolled any tools for yourself to help with all that yet?`
`19:53.05`	`BigBadHoss`	`anyone know of any good wireless phones that aren't very expensive`
`19:53.18`	`aydiosmio`	`[TK]D-Fender: my box is competely custom outside the standard freepbx configuration`
`19:53.19`	`ghenry`	`BigBadHoss: wrong question`
`19:53.21`	`tzanger`	`BigBadHoss: nope. I've evaluated 3 or 4 of 'em with no joy`
`19:53.28`	`ghenry`	`BigBadHoss: "That are any good?" ;-)`
`19:53.30`	`aydiosmio`	`I think you underestimate it's ability to ease configuration`
`19:53.50`	`BigBadHoss`	`so i will probably just buy one from the store and hook it to an ata`
`19:53.56`	`aydiosmio`	`I wouldn't waste my time configuring queues and IVRs with vi`
`19:54.07`	`Zodiacal`	`anyone know why when i try to fax from asterisk my real answering machine says RECEVING, but then nothing comes out? theres no errors in the asterisk log, it just says Launching txfax(/var/myfax/faximage1.tif\|caller) on Zap/1-1. and then about 25 seconds later it says: app_txfax.c: Got hangup`
`19:54.14`	`Zodiacal`	`does that mean my real fax machine is hanging up my asterisk box?`
`19:54.15`	`aydiosmio`	`and trunks and routes`
`19:54.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ghenry: Nope. FTP, make and a few semi template extensions.conf to work from, thats it.`
`19:54.18`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: what about with vim ;-)`
`19:54.24`	`ghenry`	`[TK]D-Fender: ah`
`19:54.27`	`aydiosmio`	`I prefer nano actually`
`19:54.29`	`aydiosmio`	`:)`
`19:54.31`	`ghenry`	`heh`
`19:55.25`	`BigBadHoss`	`nano rocks`
`19:55.54`	`ghenry`	`aydiosmio: slight freepbx question here, so maybe wrong chan, but jsut a quick one. How can you play stock * sounds via the IVR in freepbx? i.e. like Playback()?`
`19:56.02`	`ghenry`	`in stead of upload your own`
`19:56.21`	`aydiosmio`	`no, not out of the box`
`19:56.28`	`ghenry`	`thought not`
`19:56.29`	`aydiosmio`	`you have to tinker with the configuration`
`19:56.36`	`ghenry`	`it's a _custom.conf thing`
`19:57.03`	`Zodiacal`	`any ideas?`
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`19:57.19`	`ghenry`	`Zodiacal: reading...`
`19:57.36`	`aydiosmio`	`fax is nasty territory`
`19:57.51`	`ghenry`	`Zodiacal: they on the same line?`
`19:58.00`	`Zodiacal`	`no`
`19:58.10`	`Zodiacal`	`it sits for about 25 seconds then says the hang up`
`19:58.12`	`ghenry`	`so run by me how you are testin gthis?`
`19:58.17`	`Zodiacal`	`.call file`
`19:58.25`	`ghenry`	`to call from * to your real fax?`
`19:58.28`	`Zodiacal`	`that dials my physical fax machine and sends a .tif`
`19:58.33`	`ghenry`	`k`
`19:58.40`	`aydiosmio`	`what's the zap hardware?`
`19:58.44`	`Zodiacal`	`digium`
`19:58.48`	`Zodiacal`	`tdm400`
`19:58.57`	`aydiosmio`	`digium doesn't officially support faxing with their hardware, fyi`
`19:59.04`	`aydiosmio`	`tiing problems`
`19:59.07`	`aydiosmio`	`timing problems`
`19:59.42`	`Zodiacal`	`ic... i thought that spandsp was a workaround for needed special hardware`
`19:59.50`	`Zodiacal`	`needed needing`
`20:00.00`	`sevard`	`dlynes`
`20:00.34`	`Zodiacal`	`and read about some tricks to get the timming close.. but from what i read, the timming isuses were things like pages that were skewed etc..`
`20:00.40`	`ghenry`	`yeah, that a software fax, to replace hardware ones, no?`
`20:00.41`	`Zodiacal`	`mines not even spiting a blank page`
`20:00.47`	`Zodiacal`	`yea`
`20:00.55`	`ghenry`	`just checking`
`20:01.06`	`Zodiacal`	`if i have it call a voice line i can here it beeping like its trying to talk to my fax`
`20:01.16`	`ghenry`	`try changing the .call file to listen to the tones and check it sounds right`
`20:01.32`	`ghenry`	`ok, you've done that`
`20:01.46`	`ghenry`	`Your normal is proven to be ok , yeah`
`20:01.47`	`ghenry`	`?`
`20:01.58`	`Zodiacal`	`normal?`
`20:02.19`	`ghenry`	`fax/traditional`
`20:02.33`	`Zodiacal`	`oh the physical fax machine works great, its not connected to asterisk at all either.`
`20:02.38`	`sevard`	`couldn't you use a tool that took your tif and made a wav?`
`20:03.08`	`Zodiacal`	`:/ never heard of that`
`20:03.12`	`sevard`	`neither have I`
`20:03.14`	`Zodiacal`	`:P`
`20:03.14`	`sevard`	`make one :)`
`20:03.17`	`ghenry`	`to record the tones?`
`20:03.23`	`sevard`	`word, that'd be sweet`
`20:03.32`	`ghenry`	`why would you do that?`
`20:03.41`	`Zodiacal`	`well, thats kinda what spandsp does, but in a better way`
`20:05.20`	`chadkouse`	`ok I'm going to modify my app_queue.c -- wish me luck ;)`
`20:05.28`	`Zodiacal`	`i don't think its the tiff's format either.. cuz i used ghostscript to format it from a pdf, and the specs where given from voip wiki for spandsp's txfax.. they shoudl be exact. and i was getting can't open .tif errors earler until i formated the tif file exactly`
`20:05.31`	`ghenry`	`chadkouse: brave man ;-)`
`20:05.41`	`chadkouse`	`this mod looks VERY painless...`
`20:05.44`	`sevard`	`chadkouse: good luck.`
`20:05.53`	`chadkouse`	`I'll let you know how it goes.. seeya`
`20:06.01`	`ghenry`	`Zodiacal: I'll just logon to the wiki and change them ;-)`
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`20:06.08`	`ghenry`	`bye chadkouse`
`20:06.30`	`Zodiacal`	`ghenry noo... :P they saved me from the prevous error i was getting :P`
`20:06.37`	`ghenry`	`ha`
`20:06.38`	`Zodiacal`	`but now it just dunt send`
`20:06.48`	`ghenry`	`I don't really no what else to try Zodiacal`
`20:07.04`	`ghenry`	`no logs or debug settings you can increase?`
`20:07.20`	`Zodiacal`	`are there settings for the full logs?`
`20:07.23`	`aydiosmio`	`asterisk -dgvvvvvvvvvvv`
`20:07.25`	`Zodiacal`	`to change the verbocity?`
`20:07.45`	`Zodiacal`	`im also watching the CLI with verbose set to 15`
`20:07.46`	`aydiosmio`	`starts * with verbose output`
`20:07.46`	`hmmhesays`	`set verbose X`
`20:07.47`	`Zodiacal`	`:P`
`20:07.55`	`ghenry`	`set verbose 10, set debug 10`
`20:07.58`	`hmmhesays`	`turn debug on in logger.conf`
`20:07.59`	`aydiosmio`	`you can set sip debug and whatnot`
`20:08.03`	`ghenry`	`I always have that when playing`
`20:08.11`	`Zodiacal`	`these notices are prefixed with DEBUG so i guess its on`
`20:08.33`	`ghenry`	`set to 10 though,`
`20:08.52`	`sevard`	`hmmhesays: I've always wondered about setups with 200 clients making outgoing calls and you have a problem with one client, is there a way to say show only output from peers like expression`
`20:08.54`	`sevard`	`that'd be nifty`
`20:09.09`	`Zodiacal`	`does this mean anything? DEBUG[11700] chan_zap.c: Hangup: channel: 1 index = 0, normal = 17, callwait = -1, thirdcall = -1`
`20:09.23`	`hmmhesays`	`sevard "sip debug peer blargh"`
`20:09.42`	`sevard`	`hmmhesays: right right, but that would still display all the output from all the other clients`
`20:09.49`	`sevard`	`and be lost in a mess`
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`20:11.52`	`sevard`	`no ideas? :)`
`20:12.33`	`hmmhesays`	`set verbose 0 first sevard`
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`20:13.29`	`sevard`	`Hmmmmmmmmmm`
`20:13.36`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: Still here?`
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`20:13.58`	`sevard`	`Verbose 0 still shows "warnings"`
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`20:14.05`	`sevard`	`and notices`
`20:14.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: set yourself up a real phone (soft or otherwise) and stop using the CLI to test calls.`
`20:14.14`	`hmmhesays`	`disables warnings and notices in logger.conf`
`20:14.33`	`sevard`	`but you almost need that`
`20:14.37`	`pifiu`	`hey fender wasup`
`20:14.48`	`sevard`	`when you're trying to diagnose one user in a 400 user setup`
`20:15.06`	`hmmhesays`	`how did you end up with that gig`
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`20:15.18`	`aydiosmio`	`good question`
`20:15.29`	`sevard`	`mooninites.`
`20:15.47`	`hmmhesays`	`your doing drugs? so it looks like the box has 400 users?`
`20:16.05`	`sevard`	`the mooninites gave me the drugs.`
`20:16.18`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: would the .call file serve the same purpose or not?`
`20:16.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: not to TEST the context you set up.`
`20:16.55`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: k`
`20:16.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: .Call files would be to implement it in the final form, butyou need a normal phone to test things with`
`20:17.12`	trelane`	`any thoughts on the easiest way to create intercom groups which would ring and bind together groups of phones (ie they all pickup instead of one)`
`20:17.17`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: k, i'll work in that direction`
`20:18.03`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender: If a soft phone tests out, what should I pursue next?`
`20:18.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dhahn: Then come up with the mechanisn that will trigger the auto-callout`
`20:19.00`	`dhahn`	`[TK]D-Fender:k`
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`20:22.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pifiu: Same old, same old...`
`20:24.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trelane : Make a script that will dump a bunch of .call files in simultaneously that will pull them into a meetme with the initiator as the speaker.`
`20:25.02`	`aydiosmio`	`heh`
`20:25.19`	`aydiosmio`	`I wonder if anyone has tried to set up hookswitch dialing with voip`
`20:26.58`	`swytch`	`WARNING Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.2/Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.`
`20:27.17`	`swytch`	`is it crusial to get rid of this when compiling a zaptel and installing a wildcard module ???`
`20:28.39`	`swytch`	`*crucial`
`20:29.33`	`swytch`	`or could i just do a modprobe straight away (is the modprobe dangerous)`
`20:32.55`	`BigBadHoss`	`anybody got any old ip phones that they aren't using?`
`20:33.08`	`BigBadHoss`	`just something to play with`
`20:34.35`	`bkruse`	`aydiosmio: hello.`
`20:34.49`	`aydiosmio`	`hi`
`20:35.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ok, I'm outta here, BBIAB`
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`20:36.56`	`BigBadHoss`	`pm me if you do`
`20:38.36`	`hyperthread`	`hello all...Im testing here the codecs using SIP and IAX, but in IAX just GSM is working and SIP works with ALAW, ULAW, ILBC and GSM...anybody know why ?`
`20:39.26`	`pifiu`	`fender, what can i check when i get the infamous "no authority found" error when tryin to use IAX to connect 2 * boxes?`
`20:41.33`	`swytch`	`anyone has a sample config for a wildcard that just loops the E1 back to another port ???`
`20:42.03`	`macTijn`	`why not use a loop on 1 port ? :)`
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`20:53.51`	`swytch`	`anyone could provide me with info about the stuff in /etc/zaptel.conf and how to just make a T1 loop between two of the ports ???`
`20:58.51`	`eKo1`	`To make a loop, you need a T1 crossover.`
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`20:58.58`	`eKo1`	`crossover cable that is.`
`20:59.40`	`eKo1`	`Use any of the T1 settings in zaptel.conf.`
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`21:00.49`	`sudhir492`	`Hi all`
`21:00.56`	`sudhir492`	`Anyone using DUNDi here?`
`21:01.33`	`sudhir492`	`looks like a lot of people are in Von Conf`
`21:02.05`	`swytch`	`eKo1: yes. actually its e1, but its the same cross-over cable in both cases. i made it and hooked it between port 1 and 2.`
`21:02.06`	`luke-jr_work`	`sudhir492: probably`
`21:02.41`	`eKo1`	`swytch: So you're all set then.`
`21:03.05`	`swytch`	`eKo1: i do not feel whery confident with my understanding of the content of the zaptel.conf sample ... thats my problem /-8`
`21:04.58`	`eKo1`	`swytch: check the wiki for samples then.`
`21:05.07`	`swytch`	`eKo1: my goal is now to have two Zaptel peers available from my dialplan. that corresponds to the TE defined port and the NT defined port.`
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`21:08.04`	`hyperthread`	`hello all...Im testing here the codecs using SIP and IAX, but in IAX just GSM is working and SIP works with ALAW, ULAW, ILBC and GSM...anybody know why ?`
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`21:08.27`	`swytch`	`eKo1: can i modprobe wct4xxp straight away or do i have to first edit the zaptel.conf as is said in the install doc ??`
`21:08.46`	`CunningPike`	`hyperthread: allow and disallow statements in your sip and iax conf files?`
`21:08.48`	`eKo1`	`Follow the doc.`
`21:09.19`	`swytch`	`Ok/ And the wiki .. could you refer me to a good url ??`
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`21:10.15`	`eKo1`	`No. Use google to search the site.`
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`21:10.23`	`hyperthread`	`CunningPike: in iax: disallow=all allow=* (where * I try all avaliable codecs)...but just gsm works...`
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`21:10.48`	`Strom_C`	`hyperthread: what about on the other end of the connectin`
`21:10.55`	`Strom_C`	`s/connectin/connection/`
`21:12.08`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`swytch, zapata.conf is the configuration file of asterisk's zaptel channel. It is therefore used when asterisk loads`
`21:12.28`	`swytch`	`eKo1: what should i search for? "zaptel.conf E1 loop" ah i see -- there is a lot. thanks. (-8`
`21:12.48`	`swytch`	`tzafrir_laptop: loads what. isnt it the kernel booting procedure that loads the module?`
`21:12.59`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`before that, you need to have spans availble from the kernel and have them configured .`
`21:13.27`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`ztcfg , with the configuration file zaptel.conf , applies the basic kernel-level configuration`
`21:13.33`	`swytch`	`tzafrir_laptop: i dont even know what a span is. and i have to test this loop before friday.`
`21:14.33`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`swytch, cat /proc/zaptel/* . Each of the files you see there represents a "span". In the case of E1: there is a span for each port`
`21:15.06`	`luke-jr_work`	`Is there a simple way to have a macro executed for every call?`
`21:15.28`	`swytch`	`he/ there is no zaptel in proc. since i havent modprobed yet. and i have to config to modprobe according to doc ..`
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`21:15.31`	`luke-jr_work`	`prior to the regular extension execution`
`21:23.27`	`Ryushin`	`Can I use the asterisk 1.2.1 sounds with 1.2.12?`
`21:24.22`	`CunningPike`	`Ryushin: Yes - just watch out for new ones in 1.2.12 that aren't in 1.2.1`
`21:24.44`	`CunningPike`	`Ryushin: They're just sounds :D`
`21:27.49`	`Ryushin`	`CunningPike: I figured it would be okay. But it can't hurt to ask.`
`21:27.59`	`CunningPike`	`Ryushin: Absolutely`
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`21:40.41`	`ki2k`	`anyone got a good cheap source for X100P's?`
`21:41.28`	`aydiosmio`	`trash?`
`21:41.36`	`ki2k`	`trash?`
`21:41.45`	`aydiosmio`	`that's what I typed.`
`21:42.34`	`AndyCap`	`any location of this mysterious dumpster of non-smoking hardware? :>`
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`21:43.37`	`intralanman`	`aydiosmio: try digitnetworks if you really want one of those`
`21:43.40`	`intralanman`	`or ebay`
`21:43.47`	`intralanman`	`a lot of people try to unload em there`
`21:44.03`	`intralanman`	`my bad, ki2k , not aydiosmio`
`21:45.27`	`ki2k`	`well, is there anything i should look out for?`
`21:45.33`	`ki2k`	`i'm just using it for timing`
`21:45.40`	`ki2k`	`everything is SIP for me`
`21:45.54`	`sevard`	`can't you use ztdummy?`
`21:46.00`	`ki2k`	`i can`
`21:46.08`	`ki2k`	`but i wanna see if hardware will improve my quality`
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`21:46.20`	`ki2k`	`right now it's giving me 99.97x%`
`21:46.21`	`sevard`	`doubtful.`
`21:46.41`	`sevard`	`that's about as good as it gets`
`21:46.52`	`ki2k`	`what does hardware give?`
`21:47.14`	`sevard`	`i have a te405p that says 99.97`
`21:48.29`	`E-bola`	`what do u mean giving u those percentages?`
`21:48.37`	`ki2k`	`zttest`
`21:48.41`	`E-bola`	`in what regards? and why do u need timing if u use pure sip?`
`21:48.49`	`ki2k`	`conference calls`
`21:48.57`	`ki2k`	`conf rooms req a good timing device`
`21:48.58`	`E-bola`	`can u use RTC?`
`21:49.01`	`ki2k`	`i am`
`21:49.05`	`ki2k`	`i wanna try hardware`
`21:49.10`	`E-bola`	`k`
`21:49.24`	`ki2k`	`i'm recording all calls`
`21:50.02`	`ki2k`	`so, is there anything to watch out for when buying generic cards?`
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`21:52.41`	`swytch`	`should i use "switchtype=national" in zapata.conf for T1 loop or (i guess) comment it out ??`
`21:54.15`	`sevard`	`you need to define the switch type that you're connecting to, usually national, but your telco should tell you all of these things.`
`21:54.40`	`eKo1`	`sevard: he's looping it back into the card`
`21:54.50`	`eKo1`	`you can use whatever switchtype you want`
`21:55.07`	`eKo1`	`s/he/he or she or it/`
`21:55.30`	`sevard`	`looping back? gotcha, when i hear t1 loop i think he's talking about a ... t1 loop.`
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`22:00.16`	`swytch`	`sevard: im just making a loop between two ports. a crossover T1. can you help with the config?`
`22:00.29`	`Strom_C`	`swytch: do you need help with the actual cable?`
`22:01.20`	`swytch`	`Strom_C: no. i managed to make the cable. currently i just need to configure so that i have two peers awailable from my dialplan (incoming and outgoing).`
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`22:03.37`	`coolhp`	`Good evening all.`
`22:03.54`	`sevard`	`digg is awesome. an article on 'lsof' made it to the front page. to make matters worse comments following the article included unbuntu nubs saying "i don't have isof"`
`22:04.02`	`sevard`	`In conclusion, fuck you world.`
`22:04.22`	`coolhp`	`I'm using the latest CVS head and trying to get codec_speex to compile. I've install speex properly and the configure script in the asterisk source detects it but the module doesnt get compiled when doing make... any ideas ?`
`22:04.43`	`swytch`	`sevard: use fstat as the bsd guys then.`
`22:05.34`	`sevard`	`swytch: you missed the entire point of my statement. you get a gold star.`
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`22:06.35`	`swytch`	`sevard: i know. im just pissed because i am not going to get up my wildcard. and its midnight here.`
`22:07.25`	`sevard`	`swytch: that blows`
`22:07.58`	`sevard`	`i'm pissed because i might have cancer. that blows`
`22:08.44`	`swytch`	`it blows maybe. but its more "feet on the ground" to be pissed for that reason`
`22:09.27`	`swytch`	`i blow because my head is rotten inside right now.`
`22:10.02`	`swytch`	`and all i do is trying to get a fucking blow-job done here.`
`22:10.44`	`sevard`	`swytch: ask Strom_C`
`22:11.50`	`sevard`	`as you should, carry on.`
`22:11.57`	`swytch`	`wow. Strom_C s left hand is very quick`
`22:12.15`	`sevard`	`heh.`
`22:12.34`	`swytch`	`bash: /bin/laden: not found`
`22:13.03`	`swytch`	`is there a shell named bush anyway?`
`22:13.18`	`swytch`	`and is bush a Shell supporter anyway. HAHAHA`
`22:15.15`	`harryvv`	`I was in the millitary and saw the news reports of the embessy bombings in nirobi and kena in 1988 and had a strange feeling that bin ladden would continue to attack.`
`22:16.07`	`ki2k`	`you mean 1998`
`22:16.24`	`ki2k`	`and ya, i knew that guy would keep going`
`22:16.43`	`sevard`	`I think he means 1888`
`22:16.50`	`harryvv`	`no, 1988`
`22:17.10`	`ki2k`	`uh`
`22:17.16`	`ki2k`	`1988 = regan`
`22:17.17`	`harryvv`	`Bin ladden started his war against the united states at that time.`
`22:17.27`	`ki2k`	`no, he started after gulf war 1`
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`22:17.50`	`sevard`	`1688`
`22:17.54`	`swytch`	`i was 0x0a years old. didnt know politics existed. now i know that there is something named politics.`
`22:18.06`	`sevard`	`0x0a haha`
`22:18.11`	`ki2k`	`He has been indicted in United States federal court for his alleged involvement in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya, and is on the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list. He has also been linked to the 2000 USS Cole bombing, the Bali nightclub bombings, the Madrid bombings, as well as bombings in the Jordanian capital of Amman and in Egypt's Sinai peninsula.`
`22:18.16`	`ki2k`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden`
`22:18.20`	`swytch`	`sevard: if it was 1688 we have a problem ..`
`22:18.26`	`CunningPike`	`Way the heck OT, guys`
`22:19.05`	`swytch`	`sevard: i mean of mapping it to unixtime. its negative, but if you take it unsigned you might get today.`
`22:19.23`	`sevard`	`CunningPike: the problem is there was any topic at the moment, you can't be off topic without a topic int he first place.`
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`22:19.37`	`harryvv`	`In fact, I would not be suprised if I lost a bunch of airforce personell I knew who were in the kobe towers bombings. I saw the same emblem though the missing wall on the third floor as was hanging in our helicopter squadron office "So that others may live"`
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`22:20.24`	`ginvent`	`Ok, so what free incoming phone systems are there? I know of ipkall and area775 (which isn't asterisk friendly yet)... any others?`
`22:20.41`	`ginvent`	`Anyone have aim phoneline working on asterisk? that is another free incoming...`
`22:20.45`	`sevard`	`ginvent: there's a free DID service in NYC`
`22:20.53`	`ginvent`	`sevard, what is the name?`
`22:20.57`	`sevard`	`let me think`
`22:21.21`	`sevard`	`something like stanza phone`
`22:21.42`	`harryvv`	`kohbar towers I mean.`
`22:21.44`	`sevard`	`stanaphone`
`22:21.49`	`sevard`	`stanaphone.com`
`22:22.42`	`ginvent`	`ok, so stanaphone for NYC... ipkall is washington state... area775 is las vegas... any others?`
`22:23.02`	`ginvent`	`I hope to get one in each state someday.`
`22:23.56`	`ginvent`	`all I need are free outgoing... hehe... than I am set.`
`22:23.57`	`ginvent`	`:D`
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`22:27.02`	`harryvv`	`crap I was right.`
`22:27.17`	`harryvv`	`our sister squadron was in the kohbar towers.`
`22:27.57`	`Ryushin`	`Can cisco pull it's files from ftp, or only tftp?`
`22:29.17`	`anthonyl`	`im pretty sure it's just tftp but im not certin`
`22:37.03`	`sevard`	`ginvent: stanaphone areacodes: 347, 631, 646, 718, 845, 914`
`22:37.31`	`ginvent`	`Thanks... there are a lot of incoming free lines... great! The more the merrier.`
`22:37.47`	`sevard`	`you're going to have to have one account per DID`
`22:37.50`	`sevard`	`they might catch on.`
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`22:38.05`	`sevard`	`unless you have proxys :)`
`22:40.09`	`ginvent`	`True... I am not looking for multiple in one state... just ever state ;)`
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`22:41.35`	`feld`	`Ryushin: tftp`
`22:41.42`	`feld`	`so it doesnt need authentication, thats why`
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`22:44.00`	`lbn247346`	`does anyone know how to fix this error "ast_read: Dropping incompatible voice frame on IAX2/voicepulse01-8 of format slin`
`22:44.00`	`lbn247346`	`since our native format has changed to ulaw"`
`22:45.27`	`lbn247346`	`hello there`
`22:46.02`	`lbn247346`	`I'm running Asterisk 1.2.10 and having this error`
`22:47.08`	`lbn247346`	`is there anyone here?`
`22:49.10`	`rue_mohr`	`I am`
`22:49.26`	`rue_mohr`	`oh sorry, wrong channel`
`22:49.26`	`lbn247346`	`have you seen this error before? "ast_read: Dropping incompatible voice frame on"`
`22:49.36`	`rue_mohr`	`no, I dont know anything`
`22:49.40`	`rue_mohr`	`sorry!`
`22:49.54`	`lbn247346`	`this is my first time using irc`
`22:50.08`	`lbn247346`	`thanks for reply though`
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`22:52.52`	`lbn247346`	`is there any guru out there that has been encountered "ast_read: Dropping incompatible voice frame on"?`
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`22:53.33`	`ZX81`	`yes, google`
`22:54.10`	`lbn247346`	`thankx zx81, I did, it looks like there is a bu in 1.2.10 and according to some user it is still there in 1.2.12 version`
`22:55.00`	`lbn247346`	`I've been truggling with it for two weeks now, searching pretty everywhere but I could not find any soluton`
`22:57.36`	`ZX81`	`did you try using correct codecs?`
`22:57.50`	`ZX81`	`i.e. disallow=all, allow=gsm on all accounts?`
`22:57.56`	`lbn247346`	`yes, I did. I only use ulaw.`
`22:58.06`	`ZX81`	`and the same for the devices?`
`22:58.14`	`lbn247346`	`disallow=all,allow=ulaw`
`22:58.17`	`ZX81`	`are you recording or anything?`
`22:58.28`	`ZX81`	`what format are your sound files in?`
`22:58.32`	`lbn247346`	`no, I'm just trying to dial`
`22:58.34`	`lbn247346`	`gsm`
`22:58.42`	`ZX81`	`standard asterisk?`
`22:58.53`	`lbn247346`	`yes, asterisk 1.2.10 version`
`22:59.08`	`ZX81`	`full error?`
`22:59.23`	`lbn247346`	`Sep 13 16:34:27 NOTICE[23752]:`
`22:59.23`	`lbn247346`	`app_nv_faxdetect.c:216 nv_detectfax_exec: Redirecting IAX2/voicepulse01-8 to fax extension`
`22:59.23`	`lbn247346`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:59.23`	`lbn247346`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:59.23`	`lbn247346`	`Sep 13 16:34:27 NOTICE[23752]:`
`22:59.23`	`lbn247346`	`channel.c:1917 ast_read: Dropping incompatible voice frame on IAX2/voicepulse01-8 of format slin`
`22:59.27`	`lbn247346`	`since our native format has changed to ulaw`
`22:59.29`	`lbn247346`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:59.32`	`lbn247346`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:59.33`	`lbn247346`	`Sep 13 16:34:52 NOTICE[23752]:`
`22:59.34`	`ZX81`	`stop`
`22:59.35`	`lbn247346`	`rtp.c:576 ast_rtp_read: Unknown RTP codec 100 received`
`22:59.37`	`lbn247346`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:59.39`	`lbn247346`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:59.41`	`lbn247346`	`ok`
`22:59.43`	`ZX81`	`:)`
`22:59.48`	`ZX81`	`~pastebin`
`22:59.49`	`jbot`	`methinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ (BROKEN AND SUCKING NUTS), or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/, or http://paste.lisp.org/ for the lisp/scheme nuts, or http://paste-it.net`
`22:59.49`	`ZX81`	`:)`
`23:00.18`	`ZX81`	`nv_faxdetect is not standard asterisk`
`23:00.22`	`file`	`lbn247346: try 1.2.12.1`
`23:00.31`	`ZX81`	`er`
`23:00.32`	`ZX81`	`ok`
`23:00.33`	`file`	`to fix the incompatible voice frame issue`
`23:00.33`	`ZX81`	`:)`
`23:00.41`	`ZX81`	`for the transcode via slin?`
`23:00.48`	`file`	`might be fixed...`
`23:00.55`	`ZX81`	`:)`
`23:01.01`	`sevard`	`Jeeeeesus`
`23:01.10`	`ZX81`	`you rang?`
`23:01.12`	`file`	`as for the RTP codec 100, your ATA is probably switching to some sort of fax mode which needs to be disabled`
`23:01.42`	`Lyfe`	`anyone around who's familiar with sangoma t1 cards & pri's with asterisk that i might be able to bounce questions off of?`
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`23:01.45`	`lbn247346`	`I actually tried to fax through the LinkSys PAP2 ATA`
`23:04.03`	`ZX81`	`Lyfe: Sangoma support maybe?`
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`23:04.29`	`Lyfe`	`zx81: been talking to them already.. they pointed me at voip-info.. and they don't respond at this hour.`
`23:05.06`	`Lyfe`	`granted, voip-info probably has the information, but they don't have a config checker ;)`
`23:08.43`	`ZX81`	`Lyfe: did sangoma support really tell you to use voip-info as their support forum?!`
`23:08.44`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Lyfe, for starters, ask your questions. We promise not to bounce them`
`23:09.35`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`It is probably a sort of RTFM`
`23:09.40`	`Lyfe`	`zx81: no not to use it as their support forum. we had exchanged a few emails about it, and i asked for a place to get more info on setting up the pri (since it wasn't going to get setup the way i expected), etc, etc.`
`23:09.55`	`ZX81`	`ah`
`23:09.57`	`ZX81`	`betra`
`23:10.00`	`ZX81`	`:)`
`23:10.05`	`ZX81`	`man I'm getting eaten alive by mosquitos, it's 1:10am, and I`
`23:10.09`	`ZX81`	`oh well`
`23:10.15`	`ZX81`	`can't see the keyboard`
`23:10.16`	`ZX81`	`:)`
`23:10.17`	`De_Mon`	`press enter more!`
`23:10.21`	`De_Mon`	`that will`
`23:10.25`	`De_Mon`	`get the mosquitos to`
`23:10.27`	`De_Mon`	`leav eyou alone!`
`23:10.31`	`ZX81`	`:D`
`23:10.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe : Whats the matter with it? Which model? What signalling?`
`23:10.36`	`Lyfe`	`but, i haven't learned anything new from searching through voip-info.. so, anyway.`
`23:11.22`	`De_Mon`	`Lyfe it looks like [TK]D-Fender will help if you would just explain the problem before he gets bored`
`23:11.41`	`Lyfe`	`[TK]D-Fender: a101, b8zs, esf, switchtype 5ess.`
`23:11.53`	`De_Mon`	`s/gets bored/dies of old age/`
`23:12.16`	`Lyfe`	`but, basically, the last time i was messing with it, the interface appeared to bring up about 10 of the channels, and not the rest, but none of them worked.`
`23:12.34`	`Lyfe`	`quite importantly, the d-channel didn't come up.`
`23:13.13`	`Lyfe`	`so, i looked around a bit, and found that there's an option in the sangoma driver for specifying hardware support for the d-chan, which apparently isn't active in teh freebsd drivers, so he told me to just have the sangoma driver pass it all through to asterisk/zaptel.`
`23:13.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe : pastebin your wanpipe1.conf , zapata.conf, and zaptel.conf. Also add "ifconfig" and "wanrouter status"`
`23:13.28`	`Lyfe`	`which i figured would have been wwhat i had before.`
`23:13.50`	`Lyfe`	`mm, k.. gimme a moment.`
`23:14.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Start with wanpipe1.conf and wanrouter status`
`23:14.29`	`Lyfe`	`mm, k.`
`23:15.39`	`Lyfe`	`http://pastebin.ca/169503`
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`23:16.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`LyfeCan you give a more comprehensive ifconfig?`
`23:17.17`	`Lyfe`	`that's about all that comes out of ifconfig about that interface.. i've never seen it give any more than that.`
`23:17.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe : give the generic dump then`
`23:18.12`	`Lyfe`	`(even with -v for verbose status of an interface)`
`23:18.17`	`Lyfe`	`of ifconfig?`
`23:18.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe and try setting TDMV_DCHAN = 24. Then restart wanrouter`
`23:19.12`	`Lyfe`	`[TK]D-Fender: actually, that i did. Under the FreeBSD drivers for wanpipe, TDMV_DCHAN is not currently supported. This is what I'd talked to sangoma about.`
`23:20.13`	`Lyfe`	`supposedly, that's a hardware-dchan thing as well, which, according to the guys at sangoma doesn't actually need to be enabled to use a pri.`
`23:20.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe : Do try it please`
`23:20.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And sure, PB the e-mail (whats not confidential)`
`23:21.07`	`Lyfe`	`[TK]D-Fender: it causes a kernel panic, and hte machine restarts.`
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`23:21.16`	`DasTech`	`good evening`
`23:21.29`	`DasTech`	`anyone here have hands on with opengate?`
`23:22.13`	`Lyfe`	`[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/169512`
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`23:23.25`	`grexk`	`hello everyone`
`23:24.00`	`Lyfe`	`and, i would honestly turn that setting to 24 (if nothing else, just to humor you), but i've just been there too many times, and can tell you with absolute certainty that upon loading the wanpipe module with that setting on FreeBSD causes a kernel panic.`
`23:24.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe : Ok, bring on the rest of the configs then`
`23:24.46`	`Lyfe`	`ok.`
`23:25.21`	`grexk`	`Why I can't register my softphone within the server pc?`
`23:26.28`	`Lyfe`	`[TK]D-Fender: zaptel.conf & zapata.conf, any others?`
`23:26.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe : thats whats left, sure`
`23:27.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jsut those`
`23:27.05`	`Lyfe`	`ok, just wanted to make sure it was only those.`
`23:27.38`	`Lyfe`	`[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/169519`
`23:29.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe : Looks pretty on the ball.... not sure what to say....`
`23:29.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Verified your telco hasn't screwed up the setings you're expecting on their end? Did they have anything to add?`
`23:30.05`	`Lyfe`	`can you clear up the [trunkgroups] part in zapata.conf? i still am not sure about that.`
`23:30.13`	`Lyfe`	`they went over their settings a second time.. we did have some very strange oddities when testing things.`
`23:30.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe You aren't spanning multiple T1's with a shared D-Chan so they don't matter.`
`23:30.28`	`Lyfe`	`gotcha.`
`23:30.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe : You may want to focus on those differences...`
`23:31.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe : You did get a full 23 b-chan from them right?`
`23:31.33`	`Lyfe`	`first time we brought it up, 10 or 11 of the channels seemed to come up, but didn't work. the second time we brought it up (down for testing, verification of settings, etc), 16 of the channels seemed to come up, but again, none of them worked.`
`23:31.46`	`Lyfe`	`yes, it's a full t1, 23 bchans, 1 dchan.`
`23:33.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe : Maybe you should try and have the telco utilize fewer channels and see if there is a specific bandwidth error`
`23:33.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`restrict to say 12 for testing.`
`23:34.24`	`Lyfe`	`[TK]D-Fender: hmm.. possible, i suppose. how do the configs change for that? do you tell it to try using a different channel for the d-chan and such?`
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`23:36.50`	`Lyfe`	`[TK]D-Fender: also, would that trunkgroup stuff get in the way of it working properly? I do remember having that uncommented when I was trying this last time.`
`23:37.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe : first just try 1-12 for B, and 24 for D. This is just "food for thought testing"`
`23:37.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`LyfeAny more details on those "oddities"?`
`23:37.33`	`Lyfe`	`gotcha.`
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`23:37.56`	`puzzled`	`evening`
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`23:38.39`	`Lyfe`	`not that i can think of.. it was just very odd that a portion of the channels 'came up', and the rest had alarms or whatnot on them, and that it changed between tests.`
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`23:38.58`	`Lyfe`	`but, none of the channels worked.`
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`23:39.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe Have you tried a loopback on both the smartjack and the card?`
`23:40.23`	`Lyfe`	`well, i have no idea what a smartjack is, but no, i haven't tried hooking a loopback to the a101 and doing any tests.. (mostly because I'm relatively new to this, and 1- don't have a loopback, and 2- have no idea how to do tests on it)`
`23:40.39`	`Lyfe`	`I do know that my provider has attached a loopback to the line at various points for testing.`
`23:42.16`	`Lyfe`	`but, that doesn't really test the a101 in my machine.`
`23:42.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe : It may help identify which end is at fault.`
`23:42.43`	`Lyfe`	`I can also tell you that this exact same hardware is working with an e&m wink trunk.`
`23:42.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Lyfe : Have you also tried testing the cared under Linux?`
`23:42.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`card*`
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`23:44.31`	`Lyfe`	`no, i haven't. I got throw in between a rock and a hard place, because before I was done testing all this hardware, and whatnot, I got pushed into going live, so, i have 30-minute interruptions in service,w hcih are being tolerated right now.`
`23:45.13`	`Lyfe`	`course, the 5-hour interruptions from playing with that wanpipe setting for TDMV_DCHAN were unwelcome.. but what do you expect when it's still a work in progress? (evil administrative people) :P`
`23:45.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`As in every 30 minutes it freaks out?`
`23:45.26`	`Lyfe`	`no, as in i spend 30 minutes with the system down trying settings.`
`23:45.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`EEK`
`23:45.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Ok, well I'd try testing the card under linux after doing a loopback test.`
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`23:46.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`all you need is an RJ45 crimp head and 2 leads.`
`23:46.43`	`Lyfe`	`my other difficulty with that is 1- i'm not a big linux guy, so it's still a bit foreign to me, and 2- i don't really have access to the machine without a 90-minute drive. (i work remote.....)`
`23:48.39`	`Lyfe`	`but, that's just personal gripes.`
`23:49.07`	`Lyfe`	`when it comes down to it, i'll figure it out.`
`23:49.42`	`Lyfe`	`anyway.. thanks for the look-see and whatnot, [TK]D-Fender. i feel better knowing that I can at least make heads & tails of what I'm reading and trying.`
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