irclog2html for #asterisk on 20061007

`00:00.40`	`BlepsoaF`	`VOIPoTD: why not just use AGI? ( just curious )`
`00:03.52`	`VOIPoTD`	`BlepsoaF: Honestly I don't have the technical background so can't really give you a good answer, that's more something for the developers`
`00:04.19`	`BlepsoaF`	`fair enough`
`00:05.08`	`*** join/#asterisk davidded (n=daniel@p54B1C9C6.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`00:05.13`	`davidded`	`hi`
`00:05.23`	`iCEBrkr`	`VOIPoTD: what are you trying to do?`
`00:05.45`	`davidded`	`anyone in here familiar with the polycom soundpoint 400 phone?`
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`00:10.24`	`davidded`	`hi folks`
`00:10.55`	`Joel1978`	`Has anyone used Cepstral Text-To-Speech with *?`
`00:11.17`	`Ryushin`	`davidded: I'm familiar with the 430.`
`00:11.26`	`BlepsoaF`	`Ryushin: 430 any good?`
`00:12.00`	`Ryushin`	`It is once you get the new firmware on it. Prior to that, it's a paper weight. And you HAVE to use tftp to get the new firmware on it.`
`00:12.20`	`BlepsoaF`	`is firmware available to anyone?`
`00:12.24`	`davidded`	`Well, using tftp is no issue, but where would I get the new firmware?`
`00:12.26`	`BlepsoaF`	`<- thinking about purchasing`
`00:12.38`	`davidded`	`I have just had this nightmare with Cisco phones and their contracts...`
`00:12.47`	`BlepsoaF`	`davidded: exactly`
`00:13.24`	`*** join/#asterisk quid246 (n=quid24@CPE00131078ba5d-CM000f9f7eff1e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`00:14.10`	`Ryushin`	`davidded: Well, it's not that bad. Just call the company that you bought the phones from, and they are required to supply you with the new firmware.`
`00:15.38`	`*** join/#asterisk justinu\|laptop (n=Justin@dsl081-083-093.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net)`
`00:17.35`	`davidded`	`Ryushin, yes that is bad.`
`00:18.04`	`davidded`	`I attempted to register as a reseller and am now hoping that they are going to cancel my request as the contract is quite horrible.`
`00:19.18`	`Ryushin`	`Doesn't mater. You don't need a contract.`
`00:19.30`	`Ryushin`	`They HAVE to supply you with the firmware.`
`00:19.38`	`Ryushin`	`It's required by their contract with polycom.`
`00:19.54`	`davidded`	`Well, if you buy the phones used on eBay, you need to buy a service contract to get new firmware.`
`00:20.15`	`EyeCue`	`i just want my newly released k800i firmware :\|`
`00:21.03`	`davidded`	`Ryushin, that was about Cisco. But what about when you bought yur polycom phones via ebay, used, of private owners?`
`00:24.32`	`Ryushin`	`This site is a bit slow to update sometimes, but you can find the software from here: http://www.freedomphones.net/polycom/files/`
`00:26.56`	`davidded`	`re`
`00:27.49`	`davidded`	`Btw: The Polycom 400 has MGCP support only. How well is the MGCP channel support in *. Usable?`
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`00:31.57`	`vilito`	`i think the problem i am having is because i am ubuntu and /var/run is a temp fs that goes away after reboot`
`00:32.59`	`vilito`	`so when i type "asterisk -rvvv", it can't find the asterisk.ctl file. and if i create /var/run/asterisk before i start amportal, then the file is there (/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl) but still asterisk -rvv says i doesn't see it. even though it is there.`
`00:35.08`	`davidded`	`vilito, Hmm. I have a similar problem with cron on my diskless debian box "uhura", running bristuff-0.3.0s with florz patch.`
`00:40.16`	`davidded`	`Ryushin, would you buy a Polycom 400 MGCP?`
`00:40.44`	`*** join/#asterisk \|dennis\| (n=dennis@200.32.233.82)`
`00:43.45`	`davidded`	`hi dennis`
`00:48.10`	`*** join/#asterisk \|dennis\| (n=dennis@200.32.233.82)`
`00:52.39`	`*** part/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@gprs-ggsn5-nat.mobil.telenor.no)`
`00:52.51`	`*** join/#asterisk lowlevel (n=Stuart@CPE0050ba71c82f-CM000f9f7d6742.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`00:56.07`	`Ryushin`	`davidded: I'm afraid I don't need another phone right now. sorry.`
`00:57.14`	`*** join/#asterisk Dude34 (n=Aces1UP@ip68-96-234-176.lv.lv.cox.net)`
`00:57.28`	`*** join/#asterisk adamowitz (n=adamowit@ip68-9-201-27.ri.ri.cox.net)`
`00:57.42`	`Dude34`	`does anyone here run a termination business?`
`00:58.44`	`*** join/#asterisk adamowitz (n=adamowit@ip68-9-201-27.ri.ri.cox.net)`
`00:58.53`	`Dr-Linux\|work`	`is there any web interface included in 1.4 beta?`
`00:59.20`	`adamowitz`	`anybody online with FWD right now? Can I call you? Number?`
`00:59.35`	`riddlebox`	`has anyone ever setup a bocamodem 33.6 for autoanswer?`
`01:05.52`	`*** join/#asterisk h0 (n=haker0@unaffiliated/fakhir)`
`01:07.10`	`justinu\|laptop`	`ATS0=1`
`01:07.21`	`justinu\|laptop`	`maybe, kinda hazy`
`01:08.47`	`TripleFFFF`	`ATDT 18004633339`
`01:09.15`	`TripleFFFF`	`outcast if you read this can yo resend waht us ent me other day i formated and dumb ass me lost it`
`01:09.57`	`justinu\|laptop`	`hey`
`01:14.47`	`riddlebox`	`justinu\|laptop, was that for me? ATs0=1?`
`01:14.58`	`justinu\|laptop`	`yeah`
`01:15.14`	`riddlebox`	`how do I set that up though?`
`01:15.33`	`riddlebox`	`I want it to be for a remote modem on a phone system`
`01:17.00`	`*** join/#asterisk Defraz (n=t0tal@fw.centrisys.com)`
`01:18.12`	`justinu\|laptop`	`you gotta connect to it with a serial port on your PC and use a terminal program or something`
`01:19.57`	`*** join/#asterisk pabluss (n=aquicamb@200.75.1.29)`
`01:20.12`	`pabluss`	`hi`
`01:20.43`	`riddlebox`	`to set it up for auto answer even without a pc hooked up to it`
`01:21.08`	`pabluss`	`i get tdm400p digium card with 1 FXO module, i want to receive pstn calls and make ones by sjphone , thereis some good tutorial for this? thanks in advance`
`01:22.05`	`*** join/#asterisk NormanASD (n=Norman@pool-72-78-239-51.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)`
`01:22.54`	`justinu\|laptop`	`yeah, there's no switch on the modem that'll do it`
`01:24.49`	`NormanASD`	`Hi! I've been trying to track down a problem with faxes through a Digium X100P card to asterisk. If I connect from outside to a fax machine hosted by Asterisk on a linksys ATA, I get no carrier/tone like it's trying to connect. If I connect to the same machine via another SIP phone, I get the tone. Any thoughts? I set "faxdetect=both" no change, left that out, no change...`
`01:26.49`	`riddlebox`	`justinu\|laptop, thats what i think is wierd, cause what happens if it looses power?`
`01:27.02`	`NormanASD`	`I'm not even trying to connect the machine, just listen for the high pitched tone signaling a fax to start.`
`01:27.03`	`justinu\|laptop`	`it saves the status in a NVRAM register :)`
`01:27.41`	`Optic`	`i'm a cat people`
`01:27.53`	`Optic`	`er, wrong channel :)`
`01:31.07`	`Optic`	`hi`
`01:31.08`	`carrar`	`OK THANKS`
`01:31.32`	`Dr-Linux\|work`	`justinu\|laptop: hey there :)`
`01:31.57`	`riddlebox`	`I guess I should have read all this before I put it in lol now I have to go to the site and do this`
`01:33.02`	`*** join/#asterisk xnon (n=xnon@200.8.86.187)`
`01:33.52`	`NormanASD`	`anyone do faxes through a digium board to a PRI/T1?`
`01:33.57`	`xnon`	`anybody use ASTBILL?`
`01:33.58`	`Optic`	`ever tried!`
`01:34.20`	`Optic`	`norman: we just got a POTS line and plugged in a fax machine :)`
`01:34.21`	`Optic`	`haha`
`01:34.27`	`Optic`	`our PRI is voice only`
`01:34.43`	`NormanASD`	`all our numbers come in over T1 or PRI. We have 6 total, no POTS lines.`
`01:34.44`	`xnon`	`anybody speak spanish?`
`01:35.04`	`NormanASD`	`We support about 5000 phone numbers, so POTS lines would get a bit unmanageable. :)`
`01:35.58`	`*** join/#asterisk Newbie___ (i=me@211.24.146.11)`
`01:36.32`	`Newbie___`	`hi all, is there a way to get * to play music on hold and dial() at the same time ?`
`01:36.34`	`*** join/#asterisk murf (n=steve_mu@216.166.159.235)`
`01:37.57`	`Optic`	`tau tau`
`01:38.18`	`Optic`	`norman: you send a lot of faxes? seems oldschool.`
`01:39.17`	`NormanASD`	`not really, clients like to send them inside. plus, the owners of the company want to have a fax at home over voip (to save a phone line, since we can do it for free.)`
`01:40.30`	`linuxmigration`	`NormanASD: this pbx is just for in house use at a company? how big?`
`01:41.20`	`NormanASD`	`linuxmigration: in house for now, with larger plans once it looks good enough to use and replace our old switch. we have 70 employees, but as an answering service, answer about 10,000 calls/day`
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`01:42.48`	`linuxmigration`	`mean, peak simultaneous connections?`
`01:43.41`	`NormanASD`	`no, over a 24-hour period.`
`01:44.48`	`linuxmigration`	`yes, i understood. that's a new question ;)`
`01:45.20`	`NormanASD`	`sorry. :), tops, probably 30`
`01:46.05`	`linuxmigration`	`you must answer fast with 70 people. or is that split into shifts?`
`01:46.12`	`NormanASD`	`however, i'm still experimenting, so it's just a test installation for now.`
`01:46.17`	`NormanASD`	`shifts, 3`
`01:46.38`	`*** join/#asterisk dir (n=dir@124.106.223.190)`
`01:49.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Do not buy the Polycom IP 400. It is a massively outdated model.`
`01:54.12`	`Leoman`	`have any of you guys done the asterisk+ centos install?`
`01:55.35`	`Optic`	`we just got a few IP430's at work, they're nice`
`01:55.37`	`carrar`	`thats all i do`
`01:55.49`	`carrar`	`Centos 4.2`
`01:56.01`	`carrar`	`with 3ware cards`
`01:56.27`	`carrar`	`brb attending to gf`
`01:57.36`	`Leoman`	`gf is good business`
`01:59.39`	`*** join/#asterisk BlepsoaF (n=pbaker@ool-4356d6c2.dyn.optonline.net)`
`02:02.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : Indeed the 430 is a pretty decent phone. I advise it in low usage PoE deployments needing speakerphone. If PoE isn't necessay I'll advise the IP 501 over it, and if Speakerphone isn't necessay just fall back to the IP 301. The IP 430 fits that 1 specific place.`
`02:03.07`	`pabluss`	`doing tail /var/log/message if i get this message --> Module 3: Installed -- AUTO FXO (FCC mode)`
`02:03.25`	`BlepsoaF`	`just joining...but the polycom doesnt support speakerphone? or speakerphone with POE`
`02:03.55`	`pabluss`	`means fxsks=4 ?`
`02:04.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : Depends on which model.`
`02:04.19`	`BlepsoaF`	`was just interested in the convo, moving to a new office and looking at polycom phones`
`02:04.35`	`BlepsoaF`	`we have tested some 7941's, and we've decided its not the move at this stage`
`02:04.52`	`BlepsoaF`	`more of a hobby phone`
`02:05.00`	`*** part/#asterisk h0 (n=haker0@unaffiliated/fakhir)`
`02:05.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : they can all support PoE, jsut that some do it "natively", and others require a special cable at extra cost. As this changes the end cost of a solution I then shoose models to best fix the price/needs`
`02:05.20`	`pabluss`	`tkD-Fender: if i get this message in /var/log/message Module 3: Installed -- AUTO FXO (FCC mode), then i must to set fxsks=4 ?`
`02:05.30`	`Optic`	`it's nice to have POE... we have one of those Dell 3448P's and it runs the phones nicel`
`02:05.38`	`pabluss`	`my card is TDM400P`
`02:05.46`	`BlepsoaF`	`we will be deploying with a POE switch`
`02:05.46`	`Optic`	`it's amazing how many phones don't have POE :(`
`02:06.20`	`Optic`	`the sipura 942 will be a nice phone too`
`02:06.26`	`Optic`	`i've tried a couple of the 941's and they're fine`
`02:06.41`	`Optic`	`the 942 (poe + backlit screen) will make it a great phone for the price`
`02:07.11`	`BlepsoaF`	`alot of people have been talking about the 430 polycom`
`02:07.28`	`NormanASD`	`I've been trying to track down a problem with faxes through a Digium X100P card to asterisk. If I connect from outside to a fax machine hosted by Asterisk on a linksys ATA, I get no carrier/tone like it's trying to connect. If I connect to the same machine via another SIP phone, I get the tone. Any thoughts? I set "faxdetect=both" no change, left that out, no change...`
`02:07.42`	`Optic`	`blep: we've got 4 in the office now, they work fine... same sip.cfg as the 300's 301's 500's and 4000 we have in the office :)`
`02:07.54`	`Optic`	`it's nice that they don't break the config between models`
`02:08.13`	`BlepsoaF`	`Optic: 7040 to 7041 definately does that`
`02:08.18`	`BlepsoaF`	`7940`
`02:08.20`	`BlepsoaF`	`i meant`
`02:08.43`	`Optic`	`i've never used a cisco phone`
`02:09.14`	`BlepsoaF`	`eh, not work the $$ in my mind`
`02:09.17`	`BlepsoaF`	`woth`
`02:09.19`	`BlepsoaF`	`wow`
`02:09.21`	`BlepsoaF`	`worth`
`02:10.04`	`Optic`	`yeah, and the whole scheme seems to want you to run it with cisco servers`
`02:10.14`	`BlepsoaF`	`so for reception what polycom phone does everyone recommend`
`02:10.19`	`BlepsoaF`	`yeah CCME bullshit`
`02:11.23`	`Optic`	`our receptionist uses a 301 :)`
`02:11.24`	`Optic`	`hehe`
`02:11.28`	`Optic`	`poor girl`
`02:13.06`	`BlepsoaF`	`i would assume the 650`
`02:16.03`	`Optic`	`maybe, i've never seen a 650 :) looks nice though.`
`02:16.19`	`MIXX941`	`who do you guys like for just IAX termination? looking for the best rates to US as well as Europe.`
`02:16.23`	`Optic`	`i'd be happy if my asterisk wasn't crashing`
`02:16.27`	`Optic`	`:(`
`02:17.41`	`BlepsoaF`	`why it crashing, if you know`
`02:17.53`	`BlepsoaF`	`my asterisk system has been running for 30 days straight`
`02:18.21`	`Optic`	`http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=8109`
`02:18.25`	`Optic`	`if I knew, i'd fix it ;)`
`02:18.45`	`sbingner`	`Optic: how does it crash?`
`02:19.00`	`Optic`	`good 'ol segmentation fault`
`02:19.02`	`sbingner`	`* itself crashes?`
`02:19.06`	`Optic`	`yep`
`02:19.08`	`sbingner`	`impressive`
`02:19.14`	`Optic`	`see url for backtrace`
`02:19.18`	`*** join/#asterisk L\|NUX (n=linux@unaffiliated/lnux/x-10290)`
`02:19.47`	`sbingner`	`think it could be your memory?`
`02:20.03`	`Optic`	`it's a box with ECC memory`
`02:20.26`	`Optic`	`and it's been reliable... i don't know what's up`
`02:20.32`	`Optic`	`i'm not ruling out a hardware problem`
`02:20.45`	`sbingner`	`you can't reproduce it reliably tho?`
`02:20.50`	`Optic`	`nope`
`02:20.59`	`Optic`	`it only happens when the boss is on hte phone talking to a client`
`02:21.01`	`Optic`	`as you'd expect`
`02:21.07`	`sbingner`	`haha`
`02:21.13`	`L\|NUX`	`hello every one`
`02:21.28`	`BlepsoaF`	`what threading model are you using on your machine`
`02:21.30`	`L\|NUX`	`can some one tell me how can we restrict DID for two channels ?`
`02:21.34`	`BlepsoaF`	`IE nptl`
`02:21.58`	`Optic`	`blep: no idea, it's a stock debian sarge with a stock asterisk and a stock freepbx`
`02:21.59`	`sbingner`	`L\|NUX: put them in a restricted context?`
`02:22.01`	`Optic`	`nothing funny at all`
`02:22.26`	`sbingner`	`Optic: doesn't it say it's an SVN asterisk?`
`02:22.27`	`Optic`	`running asterisk svn-1.2 r44580`
`02:22.36`	`Optic`	`it says at the bottom :)`
`02:22.41`	`L\|NUX`	`sbingner : can you give an example ?`
`02:22.44`	`BlepsoaF`	`optic`
`02:22.45`	`BlepsoaF`	`type getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION`
`02:23.09`	`Optic`	`one moment, sshing into the office`
`02:23.14`	`sbingner`	`L\|NUX: whatever context a channel is in defines what numbers it can dial and what happens when it dials those numbers`
`02:23.25`	`sbingner`	`L\|NUX: look at extensions.conf.sample`
`02:23.31`	`Optic`	`getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION`
`02:23.32`	`L\|NUX`	`okies`
`02:23.37`	`Optic`	`dfraser@operator:~$ getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION`
`02:23.37`	`Optic`	`linuxthreads-0.10`
`02:23.46`	`sbingner`	`L\|NUX: and zapata.conf.sample ;)`
`02:23.55`	`sbingner`	`assuming it's a zap channel`
`02:23.56`	`BlepsoaF`	`and you're using 2.6?`
`02:24.06`	`Optic`	`Linux operator 2.4.27-3-386 #1 Mon May 29 23:50:41 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux`
`02:24.13`	`BlepsoaF`	`oh, iew`
`02:24.43`	`Optic`	`i can switch to 2.6 if you think that will help :)`
`02:25.10`	`BlepsoaF`	`quoting`
`02:25.11`	`BlepsoaF`	`The LinuxThreads project used this system call to simulate thread support entirely in userland. Unfortunately, it had a number of issues with true POSIX compliance, particularly in the areas of signal handling, scheduling, and inter-process synchronization primitives.`
`02:25.16`	`xachen`	`~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~/part`
`02:26.02`	`Optic`	`blep: where's that from?`
`02:26.17`	`BlepsoaF`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_POSIX_Thread_Library`
`02:26.22`	`Optic`	`ah`
`02:26.27`	`Optic`	`is this a known issue with *?`
`02:26.40`	`sbingner`	`you mean with linuxthreads? ;)`
`02:26.52`	`Optic`	`yeah`
`02:27.05`	`Optic`	`i'm happy to upgrade :)`
`02:27.33`	`sbingner`	`Optic: what he didn't paste from just before that was "Before the 2.6 version of the Linux kernel"`
`02:28.30`	`sbingner`	`BlepsoaF: he's going to need to update to NPTL and recompile *, yah`
`02:28.41`	`BlepsoaF`	`yeah, its not an easy upgrade`
`02:28.41`	`Optic`	`that's easy enough`
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`02:28.52`	`BlepsoaF`	`well you need to re-compile glibc`
`02:28.58`	`BlepsoaF`	`gcc likely`
`02:29.00`	`Optic`	`ah`
`02:29.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : Phone recommendations depends on their usage`
`02:29.13`	`Optic`	`debian can take me to 2.6 with packages`
`02:29.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : I don't recommend the 650 to anyone who doesn't jsut have money to burn`
`02:29.23`	`Optic`	`i think`
`02:29.52`	`BlepsoaF`	`Optic: I use gentoo :S - used to compiling everything from scratch`
`02:29.54`	`sbingner`	`Optic: you can get 2.6 and not have the new thread libraries I suspect, so be careful ;0`
`02:30.06`	`Optic`	`ok, let's see what happens :)`
`02:30.18`	`Optic`	`if I break this completely, worst case is that I have to go to the office tomoorw`
`02:30.22`	`Optic`	`I have everything backed up`
`02:30.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Linksys phones are "OK", but simply not worth the money is most places.`
`02:30.40`	`BlepsoaF`	`[TK]D-Fender: well I'm looking for a standard office setup, with the receptionist having additional feature sets to make her life easier`
`02:31.09`	`BlepsoaF`	`price isnt a big deal, but I dont want to spend more because of name`
`02:31.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : how many phones? Have PoE already? Plan on it? need speakerphone on how many?`
`02:31.34`	`Optic`	`kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686`
`02:32.23`	`BlepsoaF`	`[TK]D-Fender: likely 40 phones, have a 48 port POE switch, not sure how many people will use speaker phone. I use speakerphone alot from my desk and so do some developers. There will be conference rooms as well with some conference telephones`
`02:32.25`	`Optic`	`we got this nifty IP kvm switch at work which makes me feel a bit better about a remote kernel upgrade :)`
`02:32.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : Got a model of switch chosen already?`
`02:32.59`	`sbingner`	`Optic: those are nice :)`
`02:33.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : what kind of call volume for most users?`
`02:33.15`	`sbingner`	`Optic: but can you boot from network or something if it gets fubar?`
`02:33.25`	`Optic`	`sbinger: little Raritan 16-port thingy`
`02:33.29`	`Optic`	`nah, it doesn't do storage`
`02:33.35`	`Optic`	`but i'm a 15 minute walk from the office ;)`
`02:33.42`	`BlepsoaF`	`[TK]D-Fender: we do about 800 calls a day`
`02:33.57`	`BlepsoaF`	`16 k minutes a month`
`02:34.19`	`BlepsoaF`	`highest concurent is around 10 calls`
`02:34.56`	`BlepsoaF`	`POE switch is 802.3 compliant, although I dont know the brand we have`
`02:35.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : Ok, then IP430's for all the general users, IP 601 + 3 attendant modules for the receptionist, 2 x D-Link DES-1526 24 port PoE switches (<$400 USD ea) and you're set`
`02:35.28`	`Optic`	`ok, here goes the reboot :)`
`02:35.55`	`Optic`	`dell 3448P is a good value`
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`02:37.15`	`BlepsoaF`	`[TK]D-Fender: thats great!, thanks for that`
`02:37.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : The Dell one isn't too bad, but still 50% more expensive than my solution.`
`02:38.12`	`BlepsoaF`	`I run my asterisk server on a 1850`
`02:38.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : np. I specialize in them and own every model except the 650`
`02:38.26`	`Optic`	`haha, shit :)`
`02:38.45`	`Optic`	`/sbin/init: 432: cannot open /dev/console: No such file`
`02:38.47`	`BlepsoaF`	`[TK]D-Fender: why not the 650, just havent had the chance to review it yet?`
`02:38.53`	`BlepsoaF`	`Optic: ut oh`
`02:39.00`	`sbingner`	`Optic: lol`
`02:39.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : Actually..... just for 1 receptionist.. go crazy and get it. Why not.`
`02:39.49`	`BlepsoaF`	`[TK]D-Fender: if you dont mind the questions, were you asking about speakerphone because of the drain in the POE switch?`
`02:39.50`	`Optic`	`time for some single-user action`
`02:39.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : jsut that for the moment there isn't much value to waarrant the cost increase over the IP601, but she IS a receptionist and going to be responsible for more.`
`02:40.18`	`BlepsoaF`	`I'll have to compare the feature set`
`02:40.24`	`Optic`	`phew, ctrl-alt-delete rebooted it :0`
`02:40.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : No, I was mentioning speakerphone because if you didn't need it and DIDN'T have PoE already I'd have suggested the IP 301 over the IP 430 and save a decent chunk of money`
`02:41.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF Its all about cost effectiveness.`
`02:41.25`	`linuxmigration`	`who makes the IP###'s?`
`02:41.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`linuxmigration : Polycom.`
`02:42.19`	`BlepsoaF`	`thats great information`
`02:42.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : np. You have to think of the whole project when you plan something like this out.`
`02:42.59`	`BlepsoaF`	`<- we move in 6 weeks per the boss today`
`02:43.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : Got a PRI where you're moving to I hope...`
`02:43.40`	`BlepsoaF`	`we are actually just moving down the street, so the building we are moving into is lit with the same provider`
`02:44.10`	`BlepsoaF`	`how do you like the polycom conference stations`
`02:45.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : for that I'd suggest the SoundStation 2W (wireless) running on an ATA. More flexible for deployment at a lower cost.`
`02:45.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : But PRI, right?`
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`02:46.39`	`AJaymn`	`Anyone know where to get info on using TFTP and Linksys PAP2's?`
`02:47.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`AJaymn : http://www.sipura.com/Documents/LinksysSPATFTPProv.pdf#search=%22pap2%20tftp%20provisioning%22`
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`02:48.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`AJaymn : http://www.freeworlddialup.com/community/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15805&sid=6466fe9d910a19bd4f3a624c07d8367f`
`02:48.11`	`AJaymn`	`Thanks! :)`
`02:48.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`AJaymn : I got those with a 5 second Google search..... you MIGhT want to try looking yourself for at LEAST a minute before asking :)`
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`02:49.50`	`Optic`	`i think my sata drives are showing up as SCSI so the kernel can't find the root partition`
`02:49.58`	`Optic`	`there we go, changed the grub command line`
`02:50.00`	`Optic`	`yaya`
`02:50.14`	`Optic`	`system coming up :)`
`02:50.48`	`sbingner`	`Optic: $5 says it'll be the wrong version of threads still :b`
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`02:50.55`	`BlepsoaF`	`arg, I was booted`
`02:50.57`	`Optic`	`hey, let me get it booting automatically first :)`
`02:51.01`	`sbingner`	`lol`
`02:51.17`	`BlepsoaF`	`[TK]D-Fender: did you say anything about the polycom conference stations?`
`02:51.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[22:45] <[TK]D-Fender> BlepsoaF : for that I'd suggest the SoundStation 2W (wireless) running on an ATA. More flexible for deployment at a lower cost.`
`02:51.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[22:45] <[TK]D-Fender> BlepsoaF : But PRI, right?`
`02:51.40`	`BlepsoaF`	`yeah we have a PRI`
`02:52.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : then for your server I highly recommend this : http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?products_id=1910`
`02:52.31`	`BlepsoaF`	`doh, we already have a quad span digium card`
`02:52.56`	`wunderkin`	`let me guess... without looking.. its a sangoma card? :P`
`02:53.10`	`linuxmigration`	`yup`
`02:53.17`	`linuxmigration`	`Sangoma A102D Dual T1/ E1 PCI Card`
`02:53.25`	`BlepsoaF`	`http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/te410p.php is the one we have`
`02:53.43`	`Optic`	`nothing wrong with that card`
`02:54.12`	`wunderkin`	`as long as you dont have compatability problems`
`02:54.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wunderkin : load chan_psychic.so ;)`
`02:54.41`	`wunderkin`	`load chan_fender_is_completely_predictible.so`
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`02:54.47`	`wunderkin`	`:P`
`02:54.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`And don't have echo/irq/etc problems and its not raining in Zimbabwe on the day of your install....`
`02:55.12`	`Optic`	`of course i have to rebuild zaptel for 2.6`
`02:55.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wunderkin : thats been deprecated to chan_fender_is_largely_predictable.so ;)`
`02:55.20`	`[shodan]`	`let me guess , you're talking about x100p clones ? ;)`
`02:55.39`	`Optic`	`dfraser@operator:~$ getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION`
`02:55.39`	`Optic`	`NPTL 0.60`
`02:55.56`	`Optic`	`is that better?`
`02:55.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wunderkin : I've since taken a liking to Aastra's 480i, so I'm not just our resident Polycom zealot anymore :)`
`02:56.07`	`BlepsoaF`	`Optic: do you completely install from packages?`
`02:56.07`	`wunderkin`	`yes... i remember..`
`02:56.15`	`Optic`	`blep: the new kernel, yes`
`02:56.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[shodan] : the TE410P actually`
`02:56.21`	`Optic`	`asterisk, i built myself`
`02:56.23`	`sbingner`	`Optic: should I close your bug request until you can see if it does or does not work with 2.6?`
`02:57.16`	`Optic`	`sbinger: yes, that would be fine :)`
`02:57.18`	`[shodan]`	`not good for a 1400$ card !`
`02:57.25`	`BlepsoaF`	`I believe we already have polycom conference stations, so I can just attach an ata to that ( hopefully )`
`02:57.36`	`Optic`	`if asterisk doesn't work right under 2.4 there should be some mention of that somewhere in the docs ;)`
`02:58.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : could be. they make all sorts.`
`02:58.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : * works jsut fine on 2.4`
`02:59.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : My server doesn't HAVE downtime :) Except now I'm preparing to switch Distro's and reinstall tonight`
`03:00.17`	`[shodan]`	`nokia e70, is it actually good ?`
`03:00.30`	`sbingner`	`Optic: BTW, I'm running NPTL 2.4 -- don't know about any possible issues with 0.6`
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`03:03.03`	`davidded`	`hi back`
`03:04.23`	`davidded`	`By the way, as you've been talking about cisco stuff lately,`
`03:04.33`	`davidded`	`what is the best way to use sccp devices as of now?`
`03:04.46`	`Optic`	`what's that zaptel command-line tool to look at the card status?`
`03:04.52`	`BlepsoaF`	`Optic: you'll need to anyways as your gcc and glibc have likely been updated`
`03:06.08`	`davidded`	`ztcfg -v ?`
`03:06.41`	`davidded`	`but i never feel well about using ztcfg in a running system...`
`03:07.14`	`Optic`	`Connected to Asterisk SVN-branch-1.2-r44580 currently running on operator (pid = 11746)`
`03:07.16`	`Optic`	`yay!`
`03:07.18`	`Optic`	`asterisk is back up!`
`03:08.14`	`davidded`	`Optic, what phones do you have?`
`03:08.31`	`BlepsoaF`	`Optic: when does * normally crash for you?`
`03:08.50`	`davidded`	`I have lots of crashed with chan_sccp release 20060408`
`03:09.45`	`Optic`	`davided: a whole mish-mash. a bunch of sipura 841's that are slowly dying and getting thrown out, some polycom ip300, 301, 430, 500, a polycom ip4000, and a couple sipura/linksys 942's :)`
`03:10.06`	`Optic`	`bleposaF: I'm not exactly sure what causes it... people have been complaining about dropped calls and I've been seeing core dumps in /tmp`
`03:10.22`	`davidded`	`but all sip phones?`
`03:10.26`	`BlepsoaF`	`Optic: ah, I assume you use that wrapper sh script then to restart it`
`03:10.28`	`Optic`	`davidded: yes, all sip`
`03:10.39`	`Optic`	`blepsoaf: yes, it restarts automatically`
`03:10.46`	`Optic`	`but people don't like getting disconnected ;)`
`03:11.28`	`BlepsoaF`	`well I hope I have luck with this digium card, because constant issue wont fly at my place`
`03:11.35`	`davidded`	`My setup here consists of 3 * boxes, one with bristuff-0.3.0s with florz patch, 4 hfc cards wired together serving a bunch of isdn phones and a legacy pbx (for fax), and some sip and sccp phones`
`03:11.36`	`pabluss`	`:(`
`03:11.38`	`pabluss`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:11.43`	`pabluss`	`hmm`
`03:12.15`	`Optic`	`blepsoaf: normally our system has been rock solid`
`03:12.22`	`davidded`	`the other boxes are for isdn in a "remote" location and dialout via my voip provider and some other stuff`
`03:12.26`	`Optic`	`we have a digium TE110P and have had zero problems with it`
`03:12.38`	`davidded`	`pabluss, what cards do you have?`
`03:13.43`	`pabluss`	`davidded TDM400P`
`03:13.56`	`pabluss`	`i only one FXO module`
`03:14.08`	`pabluss`	`in the position 4`
`03:14.19`	`pabluss`	`why thie error?`
`03:14.21`	`pabluss`	`hmmm`
`03:14.44`	`Optic`	`i wonder if there's a good way to load-test a sip pbx :)`
`03:15.15`	`linuxmigration`	`does position make any difference?`
`03:15.26`	`davidded`	`Optic, did you ever have a polycom 400?`
`03:15.35`	`Optic`	`nope, no polycom 400's at all`
`03:16.23`	`Optic`	`at the request of half the girls in the office I had to install the "CTU" ring from the TV show 24 on the polycom phones today`
`03:16.31`	`Optic`	`i've never seen the show`
`03:16.39`	`Optic`	`but people got really happy when I installed the wav`
`03:16.57`	`pabluss`	`davidded: that's my information --> http://pastebin.ca/193679`
`03:17.27`	`L\|NUX`	`is there any way restrict user if user is connected from one sip/iax account then it will not connect from another place or if user connect then it will destroy current sip/iax session`
`03:17.32`	`pabluss`	`davidded: perhaps i need something but how i'm newbie .. i can't find fast`
`03:18.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Do you already own the IP 400 you're talking about?`
`03:18.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : PM me you e-mail and I'll send you it.`
`03:18.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : I include that with all my Polycom installs :)`
`03:19.24`	`pabluss`	`[TK]D-Fender: why i get this error with zapata.conf? --> http://pastebin.ca/193679`
`03:20.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pabluss : I'm betting you haven't loaded zaptel. Do "modprobe zaptel", "modprobe wctdm", "ztcfg -vvvv", and THEN restart *`
`03:20.42`	`pabluss`	`no... it's loaded`
`03:21.02`	`pabluss`	`zaptel 204932 8 wcusb,wctdm,wcfxo,wctdm24xxp,wcte11xp,wct1xxp,wct4xxp,tor2`
`03:21.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pabluss : pastebin all of your attempts again fromt he start including "cat /proc/interrupts"`
`03:21.19`	`pabluss`	`ok`
`03:21.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pabluss : I don't care about lspci...`
`03:22.20`	`pabluss`	`ok`
`03:22.21`	`Optic`	`d-fender: oh, i found it. :)`
`03:22.58`	`Optic`	`it's actually a nice sounding ring`
`03:23.07`	`davidded`	`pabluss, I haven't had any fxs cards so far, just isdn. Already looked at voip-info.org?`
`03:23.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : it is.`
`03:23.58`	`davidded`	`[TK]D-Fender, no, put I can get it cheap on eBAy, and i'm thinking about buying some.`
`03:24.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Avoid PCI cards for FXS and look for ATA's instead. for general use I recomment the SPA-2002`
`03:24.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : do NOT get the IP 400. Its discontinued and no longer supported. Bad idea.`
`03:24.38`	`davidded`	`[TK]D-Fender, No, that was just in response to pabluss. I have 4 hfc-s isdn cards`
`03:24.41`	`*** join/#asterisk jusse (n=jusse@200.121.155.217)`
`03:24.50`	`jusse`	`hi`
`03:25.00`	`jusse`	`somebody speack spanish?`
`03:25.14`	`jusse`	`i need help about my asterisk connection`
`03:25.26`	`davidded`	`[TK]D-Fender, Are mgcp-phones usable? MGCP is the only known protocol supported by the 400`
`03:25.45`	`Optic`	`just don't get the 400 :)`
`03:25.49`	`Optic`	`it's not worth the hassle`
`03:25.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : I mean it. DON'T.`
`03:25.53`	`Optic`	`get modern SIP phones`
`03:26.03`	`Optic`	`get IP430 or SPA-942`
`03:26.14`	`davidded`	`OK. I see`
`03:26.15`	`Optic`	`you will regret neither one and you won't spend too much either`
`03:26.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : I only advise the IP 430 in business + PoE use. IP 501 otherwise. And the Aastra 480i is also a great choice.`
`03:26.44`	`davidded`	`Well, I can get the IP400s for EUR32 each`
`03:26.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Linksys is a waste of money`
`03:26.51`	`*** join/#asterisk linuxmigration (n=jeremy@dsl254-075-124.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net)`
`03:27.00`	`pabluss`	`Ok [TK]D-Fender: there we go --> [root@asterisk asterisk]# asterisk -r`
`03:27.00`	`pabluss`	`Asterisk 1.2.12.1, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2006 Digium, Inc. and others.`
`03:27.00`	`pabluss`	`Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>`
`03:27.00`	`pabluss`	`Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'show warranty' for details.`
`03:27.00`	`pabluss`	`This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU General Public`
`03:27.00`	`pabluss`	`License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to redistribute it under`
`03:27.02`	`pabluss`	`certain conditions. Type 'show license' for details.`
`03:27.04`	`pabluss`	`=========================================================================`
`03:27.06`	`pabluss`	`Connected to Asterisk 1.2.12.1 currently running on asterisk (pid = 5217)`
`03:27.08`	`pabluss`	`Verbosity is at least 3`
`03:27.10`	`pabluss`	`asterisk*CLI> reload chan_zap.so`
`03:27.10`	`Optic`	`d-fender: yeah? the 941/2 seems like a good phone, the quality is WAY better than the 841`
`03:27.12`	`pabluss`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:27.14`	`pabluss`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:27.14`	`davidded`	`I have some SNOM 360s here, and I like them very well. However, mechanically the keys are not so good.`
`03:27.16`	`pabluss`	`Oct 6 23:26:38 WARNING[6316]: chan_zap.c:10874 setup_zap: Ignoring signalling`
`03:27.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Good luck getting MGCP to work. there is a reason they are practically giving them away. They're asking what they're WORTH.`
`03:27.18`	`pabluss`	`Oct 6 23:26:38 ERROR[6316]: chan_zap.c:10305 setup_zap: Unable to reconfigure channel '4'`
`03:27.20`	`pabluss`	`Oct 6 23:26:38 WARNING[6316]: chan_zap.c:11067 reload: Reload of chan_zap.so is unsuccessful!`
`03:27.22`	`pabluss`	`asterisk*CLI>`
`03:27.24`	`pabluss`	`ops`
`03:27.26`	`pabluss`	`argg!`
`03:27.28`	`pabluss`	`eeror`
`03:27.41`	`pabluss`	`sorry`
`03:27.47`	`Optic`	`there's almost nothing in common between the 941 and the 841 except the firmware`
`03:27.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : Shit looks pretty good... when compared to CRAP :)`
`03:28.09`	`BlepsoaF`	`lol`
`03:28.15`	`Optic`	`d-fender: i'd rather have a 942 than an IP301 :)`
`03:28.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : Crappy call handling, screen size / usability, poor weight (phone slides a lot).`
`03:28.41`	`davidded`	`OK. I see. What's the problem with MGCP?`
`03:28.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : And for hte moeny I could get an IP 501 which KILLS the SPA's :)`
`03:29.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Its a DUMB phone. no IQ of its own and the server has to do everything. * doesnt' support it well and NOBODY cares about MGCP any more. Stop thinking you're getting a good deal.. All you'll end up with is headaches`
`03:29.31`	`Optic`	`d-fender: OMG, the 501 has come down in price!`
`03:29.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic +/-$170USD`
`03:29.43`	`Optic`	`d-fender: ok, I agree, no contest`
`03:29.53`	`Optic`	`501 is way better than the 942 :)`
`03:29.56`	`Optic`	`it used to be twice the price`
`03:29.58`	`pabluss`	`[TK]D-Fender (sorry for the flood) here the information --> http://pastebin.ca/193689`
`03:30.15`	`pabluss`	`updated`
`03:30.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic :Exactly. the only place I could recommend a linksys is in countries with seriously shit import add-ons that don't nail Linksys. Aasta is my 2nd choice over polycom.`
`03:30.25`	`Optic`	`wow, polycom has been really slashing those prices`
`03:30.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : its been $170 for a whole year now.`
`03:30.49`	`Optic`	`650 has a backlit screen even, right?`
`03:31.00`	`Optic`	`i don't know why backlit screens are so rare`
`03:31.01`	`davidded`	`Optic, right.`
`03:31.13`	`davidded`	`Optic, that's what I hate about the Ciscos`
`03:31.22`	`Optic`	`wow, they dropped the poe cable price too, $26`
`03:31.28`	`davidded`	`They never have backlight except for the 7931 which is not available yet.`
`03:31.32`	`Optic`	`time to retrofit some old phones ;)`
`03:31.44`	`BlepsoaF`	`just make your own cable`
`03:31.53`	`davidded`	`[TK]D-Fender, what do you think of the cisco 79xx series?`
`03:31.54`	`Optic`	`blep: yeah?`
`03:32.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Too expensive for nothing.`
`03:32.13`	`Optic`	`i thought the poe cable had a psu and enumeration hardware in it`
`03:32.33`	`davidded`	`[TK]D-Fender, is sccp stable / fairly complete?`
`03:32.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : it does have an inline PCB for PoE negociation still.`
`03:32.53`	`Optic`	`well, you kinda need that unless you have a really dumb injector :)`
`03:32.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Are you a complete masochist?`
`03:33.13`	`Optic`	`sccp is unstable and barely supported`
`03:33.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : See thats where I recommend the IP 430......`
`03:33.22`	`Optic`	`yep, built-in POE!`
`03:33.23`	`Optic`	`whoo`
`03:33.29`	`davidded`	`[TK]D-Fender, that's what some people say about me as far as phones and printers are concearned...`
`03:33.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : Yeah its pretty nifty.`
`03:33.34`	`pabluss`	`[TK]D-Fender: hmmm i've just to read --> http://kb.digium.com/index.php?View=entry&CategoryID=1&EntryID=87, but i do it the same ... i can't find the error`
`03:33.36`	`Optic`	`they're nice phones, i think the little green line status LED looks hot :)`
`03:33.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Take it from those who know better. Buy shit and you'll regret it.`
`03:34.25`	`Optic`	`any business phone you can buy under $200 is a great deal`
`03:34.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pabluss : Is this your first time using/configuring the card?`
`03:34.33`	`pabluss`	`yes`
`03:35.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pabluss : Well the FXO module MAY be on port 1 actually... try changing it. It DOES look right though. you've done a clean job ....`
`03:35.12`	`davidded`	`[TK]D-Fender, so what would you recommend if I wanted to have a phone with illuminated (hinted) line keys?`
`03:35.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : Aastra 480i is pretty good too. If people insist on backlit thats where I send them.`
`03:35.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : How many?`
`03:36.01`	`davidded`	`[TK]D-Fender, at least 12`
`03:36.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : for a receptionist?`
`03:36.12`	`Optic`	`d-fender: the 942 honestly isn't a bad phone ;)`
`03:36.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : IP 601 + 1 attendant mosule.`
`03:36.38`	`pabluss`	`[Tk]D-Fender: the FXO it's on port 4 as i see the ligth in the card ...`
`03:36.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : not "bad", just not worth the cost vs Polycom / Aastra.`
`03:36.47`	`davidded`	`[TK]D-Fender, i need it for indicating the status of various features / flags, and I need about 4 of them.`
`03:36.51`	`davidded`	`(4 phones)`
`03:37.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pabluss : Try moving the module to port 1 (make really sure which port it is. Could be the slot is dead for the module.`
`03:37.39`	`Optic`	`d-fender: have you used any of the wifi-sip "cordless" phones?`
`03:37.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : for 12 people to monitor you have my suggestion.`
`03:37.43`	`pabluss`	`ok`
`03:37.46`	`pabluss`	`hmm`
`03:38.01`	`pabluss`	`and this information could be wrong? --> Oct 6 22:47:45 asterisk kernel: Module 3: Installed -- AUTO FXO (FCC mode)`
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`03:38.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : Have a Linksys WIP300. pisses me off. have a Hitachi WIP-5000 I never got to connect.`
`03:38.17`	`Optic`	`that's what I expected`
`03:38.26`	`davidded`	`Optic, don't buy a UT starcom, they're real crap.`
`03:38.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : Current "State Of The Union" : All WiFI phones SUCK. get an ATA + normal cordless.`
`03:38.45`	`Optic`	`d-fender: that's what I guessed :)`
`03:39.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : I decded to give the WIP300 a whirl. No friggen transfer! no conference!`
`03:39.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`UGH`
`03:39.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`total piss-off`
`03:39.28`	`pabluss`	`[TK]D-Fender well tomorrow is a new day ...`
`03:39.36`	`davidded`	`I use parking quite a lot. So i insist of my phones having line keys showing parked calls...`
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`03:39.44`	`sgorilla1`	`hey`
`03:39.49`	`davidded`	`%s/of/on/`
`03:39.59`	`Optic`	`"call park" is a second-class citizen in the voip world ;)`
`03:40.18`	`davidded`	`Optic, what do you mean by that?`
`03:40.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Why is that?`
`03:40.20`	`sgorilla1`	`this is what i want to do, call two people at once and have them go into the same conference room`
`03:40.22`	`sgorilla1`	`how can i do this?`
`03:40.38`	`pabluss`	`Thanks TK.. tomorrow i'll change the position...`
`03:40.39`	`pabluss`	`;)`
`03:40.45`	`pabluss`	`see you later`
`03:40.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pabluss : np, good luck, you seem to know what you're doing.`
`03:40.56`	`Optic`	`davidded: no idea, it just seems to have fairly limited support in asterisk and SIP phones`
`03:41.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pabluss : Just work through each thing you can try.`
`03:41.06`	`Optic`	`it's usually a hack`
`03:41.06`	`BlepsoaF`	`sgorilla1: there is something on the wiki about that already i believe`
`03:41.15`	`pabluss`	`ok`
`03:41.19`	`pabluss`	`bye`
`03:41.29`	`sgorilla1`	`BlepsoaF: how can i search for it?`
`03:41.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : I'm about to enable call-parking direct on my Polycom's (soft-key driven)`
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`03:41.45`	`BlepsoaF`	`I dont remember the context`
`03:41.47`	`Optic`	`d-fender: woo, i'll want to know how that goes`
`03:41.59`	`davidded`	`[TK]D-Fender, I move around a lot, and I have my * setup distributed along 2 buildings.`
`03:42.19`	`sgorilla1`	`BlepsoaF: how can i search for it?`
`03:42.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : well documented in the mailing lists, and I already enabled it at work. jsut need to test it. I use ValetParking with great success.`
`03:42.32`	`BlepsoaF`	`sgorilla1: I dont remember the context`
`03:42.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : And why do you need to see parked calls like that?`
`03:43.00`	`davidded`	`Hmm, after all I see that the SNOM360 seems to be quite good afterall.`
`03:43.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Just ahve them time-out to somewhere practical.`
`03:44.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : SNOM is further down the list... shitty screen, and flakey firmware. Crashes like a NY 747 :/`
`03:44.26`	`davidded`	`Hmm, I'm using firmware 6.3 and it never crashed so far.`
`03:44.32`	`Optic`	`yes, that's no doubt true`
`03:44.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : YMMV`
`03:45.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Just no advantage to SNOM that i've seen. Except they DO have a hug presence enabled board.`
`03:45.25`	`davidded`	`The only bug I see is that the SNOM's don't renew their subscriptions (to hints) upon reregistration. That's not so fine.`
`03:45.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : You know you COULD jsut do a small web-script to monitor your phones/parking instead and save some $`
`03:47.04`	`davidded`	`[TK]D-Fender, no it's just the other way round. I want to be able to monitor them where I have _no_ computer at hand, see?`
`03:47.42`	`Mavvie`	`somebody here who has chan_sccp up and running?`
`03:47.58`	`davidded`	`Mavvie, yes, I have, but it's not entirely stable as of my knowledge.`
`03:48.35`	`Mavvie`	`davidded: when you say "not entirely stable", what do you mean with that?`
`03:49.22`	`davidded`	`Well, when you join a conference with a sccp phone, asterisk 1.2 crashes, when you disconnect a phone in the wrong moment, asterisk _might_ crash,`
`03:49.39`	`Mavvie`	`eeks!`
`03:49.44`	`davidded`	`some archaic devices may cause disastrous situations as well`
`03:49.47`	`sgorilla1`	`how does the context work when you do something like dial & dial`
`03:50.05`	`davidded`	`Mavvie, it's not as bad as it sounds.`
`03:50.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Ok, well I'll stand by the IP 601 + Attendant Module.`
`03:50.22`	`davidded`	`However, I'd be quite happy if you would join me (at a later time) in fixing these issues.`
`03:50.54`	`Mavvie`	`davidded: did you use it to replace a Cisco Callmanager System?`
`03:51.01`	`BlepsoaF`	`[TK]D-Fender: what can you do with the module add ons for the 601`
`03:51.06`	`BlepsoaF`	`<-- never used a polycom`
`03:51.08`	`davidded`	`[TK]D-Fender, thanks for the advice. Seems sensible to me, too. Just need to patch an EL foil behind the display...`
`03:51.41`	`davidded`	`Mavvie, no, I used it to deploy some light-headedly bough Cisco phones`
`03:52.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : Speed-dials, presence for internal extens, and in 1.4 you're supposed to have virutal local channels you can use to indicate other stuff. Also etends the # of registrations you can have. Useful for SIP-B SLA which is also due for 1.4`
`03:52.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : EL?`
`03:52.50`	`davidded`	`Electro Luminescence Foil`
`03:52.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Just get the 650 if you insist on a backlight.`
`03:53.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : I was pretty sure thats what you meant....`
`03:53.02`	`BlepsoaF`	`cool, i dont want to switch to 1.4 yet until it goes prod`
`03:53.05`	`davidded`	`As used (yet crappily) in the SNOMs and ELMEGs`
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`03:53.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BlepsoaF : jsut listing the benifits now vs "down the road"`
`03:53.25`	`davidded`	`How much is the 650?`
`03:53.27`	`BlepsoaF`	`oh I understand :)`
`03:53.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : "too much" IMO`
`03:53.42`	`davidded`	`more than $300?`
`03:53.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : around $310 or so.`
`03:53.54`	`BlepsoaF`	`I dont like cisco phones at all`
`03:54.00`	`davidded`	`BlepsoaF, why?`
`03:54.11`	`BlepsoaF`	`price`
`03:54.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Its add some stuff whose benifit may become apparent later. but right now I wouldn't...`
`03:54.24`	`BlepsoaF`	`mainly because of the 7941's`
`03:54.34`	`BlepsoaF`	`just a pain in the ass to configure`
`03:54.43`	`xnon`	`anybody know what is the user name and pass for the trixbox system`
`03:54.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Cisco is a waste. Poor call handling, excessive cost, most older ones dont do 802.3af.`
`03:55.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xnon : try asking in #freepbx`
`03:55.10`	`xnon`	`ok thax`
`03:55.11`	`BlepsoaF`	`yeah the 79X0's dont support 802.3`
`03:55.12`	`xnon`	`thanx`
`03:55.47`	`davidded`	`But they have a quite beautiful attendant console (7914) which (alas) only works with sccp, afaik`
`03:55.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Hence a complete waste.`
`03:56.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`davidded : Costs more than a 650 w/ its Attendant modules anyways.`
`03:56.45`	`davidded`	`Yes, if new. Used, the Ciscos are more affordable. But I remember what you said earlier...`
`03:57.01`	`davidded`	`They cost what they're worth (at least)`
`03:57.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`used + SCCP = shudder`
`03:57.41`	`davidded`	`hehe g`
`03:58.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I only like Polycom because they're the strongest option right now. for many places I can see installing Aastra instead for cost / lighting reasons.`
`03:58.32`	`davidded`	`I gotta leave now folks. Thanks for the talk, cya maybe tomorrow.`
`03:59.50`	`Optic`	`if he buys those 400's you might have to ban him :)`
`04:00.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : No ops.... /ignore ;)`
`04:01.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Banning is a bad thing and only for the most abusive people. Kicking is a decent wake up call for most.`
`04:01.17`	`BlepsoaF`	`Optic: any core dumps yet?`
`04:04.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`All hail the UniBrow!`
`04:04.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:O`
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`04:21.42`	`Optic`	`blep: nope! but nobody using the system either ;)`
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`04:23.42`	`BlepsoaF`	`I'd be interested to see your turn out, can you update your bug report when you have conclusive results?`
`04:26.10`	`Optic`	`sure`
`04:26.29`	`Optic`	`but it won't be until next week when people get back to the office`
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`04:57.38`	`sgorilla1`	`ok i figured out how to call two people at once then bridge them into a conference`
`04:57.41`	`sgorilla1`	`its pretty nice`
`04:57.51`	`sgorilla1`	`what voip providers allows for more open lines?`
`04:57.58`	`sgorilla1`	`mine only provides for 3`
`04:58.22`	`linuxmigration`	`voipjet?`
`04:58.32`	`sgorilla1`	`how much does that cost?`
`04:58.55`	`linuxmigration`	`limit = f(prepayReserve)`
`04:59.07`	`linuxmigration`	`iirc 1.3 cents/min`
`04:59.20`	`linuxmigration`	`IAX2 termination`
`05:00.31`	`linuxmigration`	`they put a hold for cost of 2 hour call to wherever you're calling on the acct. if you don't have enough money in the acct not held by another call then you can't call.`
`05:00.38`	`linuxmigration`	`again iirc`
`05:01.07`	`linuxmigration`	`never actually used them, so i can't vouch, but i've heard good things.`
`05:13.26`	`ShadowHntr`	`is voicepulse any good?`
`05:14.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ShadowHntr : Pretty good from why my clients have said`
`05:15.51`	`file`	`[TK]D-Fender: sleeeeeeeepy1`
`05:18.16`	`ShadowHntr`	`cool`
`05:18.31`	`ShadowHntr`	`i emailed support and they allow BYOD`
`05:18.31`	`BlepsoaF`	`anyone use agi, perl?`
`05:18.31`	`ShadowHntr`	`:D`
`05:18.56`	`BlepsoaF`	`pref. relating to say_alpha`
`05:19.43`	`linuxmigration`	`ShadowHntr: sip term?`
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`05:19.52`	`ShadowHntr`	`yeah`
`05:20.04`	`ShadowHntr`	`i'm interested in setting up an IP phone in each room`
`05:20.21`	`ShadowHntr`	`and i'd also like to set up asterisk`
`05:20.30`	`ShadowHntr`	`but i gotta get the money to fund all this`
`05:20.38`	`ShadowHntr`	`i think i've picked out phones`
`05:20.42`	`ShadowHntr`	`Grandstream GXP-2000`
`05:21.10`	`sgorilla1`	`whats going on with nufone`
`05:22.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ShadowHntr : They suck. Avoid`
`05:22.57`	`ShadowHntr`	`the grandstreams?`
`05:23.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ShadowHntr : Correct.`
`05:23.25`	`ShadowHntr`	`i heard good stuff about the Tornado M5`
`05:23.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`What kind of call volume and usage are you thinking of?`
`05:23.31`	`ShadowHntr`	`but can't find them for sale anywhere`
`05:23.48`	`ShadowHntr`	`low call volume, but eventual business use.`
`05:23.58`	`ShadowHntr`	`but i'd like a professional phone`
`05:24.01`	`ShadowHntr`	`<$180`
`05:24.10`	`ShadowHntr`	`the budgetone seems a little flimsy`
`05:24.31`	`Optic`	`d-fender: the budgetone 101 works as advertised, but it's the ugliest phone ever made by man :)`
`05:24.51`	`Optic`	`last i heard the gxp-2000 didn't really make calls or anything like that yet ;)`
`05:25.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ShadowHntr : If you want something decent, look at a Polycom IP 501 or Aastra 480i.`
`05:25.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ShadowHntr : If you're doing this at home, start with jsut an ATA if you aren't ready to buy a "full-on" IP phone. Don't cheap out when the time comes though.`
`05:26.16`	`ShadowHntr`	`i'd like to make this easy to move up to asterisk.`
`05:26.23`	`ShadowHntr`	`howevert`
`05:26.33`	`Optic`	`why do you want to run asterisk at home?`
`05:26.36`	`ShadowHntr`	`this is more of a home/small office`
`05:26.42`	`ShadowHntr`	`so each room can have an ip phone`
`05:26.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : I do. Why not?`
`05:27.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ShadowHntr : If you want to do it for the home, forget SIP hard-phones for the rooms, just get them on ATA's Much cheaper. $35 / port`
`05:27.30`	`BlepsoaF`	`i've used druid because of their java manager console`
`05:27.32`	`Optic`	`d-fender: cause it's expensive to do it right and extra complication... maybe i'm just geeked out from work ;)`
`05:27.56`	`BlepsoaF`	`although the actual software isnt worth the buy`
`05:28.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : I am pure VoIP at home w/ an ip 301, 430, and 501.`
`05:28.18`	`Optic`	`d-fender: also getting a tolerable echo-free interface to POTS is a challenge :)`
`05:29.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : Harldy expensive. Cheap ata = $70 and you can run your whole home on one if you want. You can use * as a LCR engine and get off the rip-off that is analog phone service`
`05:29.12`	`Nugget`	`wwhhaatt''ss eecchhoo ccaanncceellaattiioonn ffoorr??`
`05:32.45`	`ShadowHntr`	`the ArtDio phones any good?`
`05:33.37`	`sgorilla1`	`anyone use nufone?`
`05:34.31`	`BlepsoaF`	`well I think I found a bug in the asterisk 1.2 agi`
`05:35.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ShadowHntr : ick.`
`05:35.33`	`ShadowHntr`	`hmmm`
`05:35.44`	`ShadowHntr`	`can't find many hard phone reviews cept on voip-info`
`05:35.48`	`ShadowHntr`	`how bout the Polycom IP 301`
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`05:41.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ShadowHntr : 301 is good, but no speakerphone.`
`05:41.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ShadowHntr : for your "business phone" I'd say an IP 501 isn't too much.`
`05:43.05`	`Optic`	`BlepsoaF: one that would cause segfaults? :)`
`05:43.48`	`file`	`[TK]D-Fender: thanksgiving sales! oh no`
`05:45.33`	`ShadowHntr`	`hmmm...`
`05:45.52`	`Optic`	`don't get the 841!!!`
`05:46.11`	`ShadowHntr`	`how bout Sipura/Linksys SPA-921/922/941s`
`05:46.24`	`Optic`	`tolerable but the 501 is a better value`
`05:47.40`	`Optic`	`ok, i'm off to bed`
`05:47.42`	`Optic`	`goodnight all :)`
`05:47.45`	`ShadowHntr`	`thanks for the tips`
`05:47.45`	`ShadowHntr`	`:)`
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`06:26.46`	`pocketprotection`	`tiny question: is python as good a way to automate asterisk?`
`06:26.56`	`pocketprotection`	`as say the docs examples? (mostly seemingly in perl)`
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`06:32.46`	`linuxmigration`	`? python++`
`06:33.22`	`linuxmigration`	`is there a bot in here?`
`06:35.54`	`coppice`	`~python++`
`06:42.01`	`linuxmigration`	`what's the bot's name?`
`06:42.09`	`linuxmigration`	`s/name/nick/`
`06:42.26`	`linuxmigration`	`jbot: ty`
`06:42.33`	`jbot`	`ty is, like, thank you, or cobb -- a baseball player`
`06:42.47`	`linuxmigration`	`jbot: python++`
`06:43.00`	`linuxmigration`	`jbot: karma`
`06:43.00`	`jbot`	`linuxmigration has neutral karma`
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`07:37.35`	`qoop`	`yoyoyo`
`07:39.33`	`qoop`	`ive got a question or two`
`07:39.39`	`qoop`	`anyone in here?`
`07:40.01`	`Mavvie`	`270 people online.`
`07:40.09`	`Libila`	`and no one knows your question`
`07:40.34`	`Mavvie`	`nor the other one.`
`07:40.41`	`Mavvie`	`to quote one of the bigwigs here...`
`07:40.42`	`Mavvie`	`NEXT!`
`07:40.46`	`qoop`	`lol`
`07:40.51`	`qoop`	`you so crazy`
`07:41.48`	`jmls`	`qoop: and the question was ?`
`07:42.36`	`qoop`	`i wanted to kind of mess around with asterisk`
`07:42.59`	`qoop`	`i was looking for some advice`
`07:43.32`	`Mavvie`	`(still no question)`
`07:43.34`	`jmls`	`to do what. "mess around" is a large area ?`
`07:44.00`	`jmls`	`qoop: maybe trixbox is what you need`
`07:44.04`	`qoop`	`i want to make it call me back and give me a dial tone`
`07:44.11`	`jmls`	`DISA`
`07:44.14`	`qoop`	`so really i just need some hardware to get started`
`07:44.33`	`qoop`	`i checked ebay`
`07:44.45`	`jmls`	`man, you definately need trixbox. And some FXO / FXS cards from Digium`
`07:44.49`	`qoop`	`http://cgi.ebay.ca/InfoMatrix-WildCard-X100P-For-Asterisk-IP-PBX-From-USA_W0QQitemZ150039510006QQihZ005QQcategoryZ61839QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem`
`07:44.59`	`qoop`	`am i going in the wrong direction?`
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`07:46.17`	`qoop`	`...`
`07:46.17`	`jmls`	`yup. If you are using POTS, then http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/tdm400p.php`
`07:46.36`	`qoop`	`so that auction is no good?`
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`07:47.17`	`jmls`	`x100p cards (especially the non-digium clones) have a tendency to be "tricky" to work with.`
`07:47.41`	`qoop`	`so what is the best low cost solution?`
`07:47.47`	`jmls`	`otoh, you could always look at a sipura sp3000 or something similar`
`07:47.56`	`jmls`	`spa-3000`
`07:48.19`	`qoop`	`ok let me have a look`
`07:48.25`	`qoop`	`are they expensive?`
`07:48.34`	`trumee`	`guys, i am using voipstunt with asterisk. for most part it works fine, but after 2 days of uptime, it stops working. i have to restart asterisk again to make it to work. is there a way to send keep alive packets to voipstunt?`
`07:48.42`	`jmls`	`no, brand new is less than �100`
`07:49.22`	`benjk`	`there are no non-digium-clones`
`07:49.45`	`benjk`	`Digium bought those cards from the very same Chinese manufacturers as anybody else`
`07:50.25`	`benjk`	`the difference was that Digium sticked a heatsink on the chip so people couldn't read the label on the chip`
`07:50.36`	`qoop`	`$210 here`
`07:50.44`	`Corydon76-home`	`That wasn't the reason Digium stuck a heatsink on the chip`
`07:50.46`	`benjk`	`they also changed a resistor to alter the PCI bus ID`
`07:50.56`	`Corydon76-home`	`The problem was that they tended to overheat`
`07:51.03`	`benjk`	`LOL`
`07:51.19`	`benjk`	`history falsification`
`07:51.29`	`Corydon76-home`	`So they stuck a heatsink on it to combat a frequent support issue`
`07:51.55`	`qoop`	`i use a voip service`
`07:52.05`	`benjk`	`I know a guy in San Diego, he told me the story and how he urged Mark not to do it for the sake of not being caught and get a bad reputation, I am sure you know who I am talking about`
`07:52.07`	`qoop`	`should that affect my hardware choices`
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`07:52.36`	`Corydon76-home`	`I know a guy in Huntsville. So what?`
`07:52.47`	`benjk`	`you know who I am talking about`
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`07:53.22`	`Corydon76-home`	`Conspiracy theories abound`
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`07:53.44`	`benjk`	`in any event, the difference in those cards is not Digium rebranded versus non-Digium rebranded ones, but old ones versus new ones`
`07:54.25`	`Corydon76-home`	`Actually, the firmware on the card itself tends to be different revisions.`
`07:54.34`	`benjk`	`without this guy, mark wouldn't have been able to do any zaptel in the first place`
`07:54.46`	`Corydon76-home`	`So yes, there's a not-insignificant difference between the cards`
`07:54.57`	`benjk`	`revisionism`
`07:55.24`	`Corydon76-home`	`Need you be reminded that Mark was also a member of the Zapata telephony team?`
`07:55.25`	`qoop`	`so is that card ok to buy?`
`07:55.33`	`benjk`	`no its not`
`07:55.46`	`qoop`	`ok`
`07:56.06`	`benjk`	`unless the card was bought about 2 years ago, it would be made from reject chips or refurbed chips`
`07:56.23`	`benjk`	`because the chips are no longer manufactured`
`07:56.23`	`qoop`	`i see`
`07:56.31`	`qoop`	`ok`
`07:57.11`	`benjk`	`you can use those cards fairly reliably as timing sources if you don't want to use ztdummy and have no other hardware to provide timing`
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`07:57.52`	`benjk`	`but other than that, they are not really useful`
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`07:58.13`	`jmls`	`they're useful in creating arguments in #asterisk ;)`
`08:00.15`	`qoop`	`lol`
`08:02.10`	`qoop`	`so i should get a spa 3000`
`08:03.08`	`qoop`	`and run what on it?`
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`08:03.38`	`jmls`	`run it with trixbox - it's a self-install asterisk & config system`
`08:03.58`	`sbingner`	`that confuses the crap out of you`
`08:04.04`	`qoop`	`ok, im gonna try all this out`
`08:04.30`	`qoop`	`thanks for being helpful`
`08:04.56`	`jmls`	`for a newbie, it's easier. As you progress, install your own`
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`08:12.19`	`usux`	`hi asterisk is a dumb pbx`
`08:13.10`	`jmls`	`that's nice. welcome to the community`
`08:13.23`	`usux`	`fuck the community`
`08:13.28`	`usux`	`pbx software is dumb`
`08:14.10`	`jmls`	`that's also very nice. Why don't you go swear elsewhere and come back when you've grown up a little.`
`08:14.48`	`qoop`	`why is it dumb?`
`08:14.49`	`usux`	`fuck u`
`08:14.56`	`usux`	`i am a haxzor`
`08:15.01`	`qoop`	`lol`
`08:15.34`	`jmls`	`didn't you go to skool ?`
`08:16.22`	`benjk`	`usux if you intend to get people angry here you must criticise something`
`08:16.34`	`benjk`	`swearing is too easy`
`08:16.50`	`jmls`	`too simple if you ask me`
`08:17.15`	`benjk`	`but if you know of a nasty bug or some design flaw, that will sure get some people's blood boiling ;)`
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`08:19.19`	`benjk`	`seems he wasn't up to the challenge`
`08:21.52`	`qoop`	`that was random`
`08:22.35`	`benjk`	`I think it was somebody who heard about the reputation of the channel and wanted to see for himself`
`08:22.48`	`benjk`	`but he wasn't up to the challenge :)`
`08:22.49`	`coppice`	`maybe he went to the KKK school, where the teach you white from wong :-)`
`08:34.23`	`benjk`	`coppice, is that wong as in 王 ?`
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`08:34.47`	`coppice`	`that or the yellow one`
`08:35.58`	`benjk`	`there are probably more folks by that name than the population of the United States and Western Europe put together`
`08:41.44`	`coppice`	`Cheung/Zhang is actually the commonest name in the world, though Chan/Chen beats it hands down around here`
`08:42.52`	`benjk`	`Cheung is 中 ?`
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`08:44.58`	`coppice`	`no. the "bow" radical to the left, the character cheung meaning long to the right`
`08:47.19`	`batphone`	`is there a way to implement asterisk in a cluster that would keep an asterisk crash from dropping calls?`
`08:47.39`	`batphone`	`like a way to keep asterisk out of the media stream and use something like clusterip to keep the call going`
`08:47.46`	`batphone`	`through a SER`
`08:47.53`	`batphone`	`something somehow someway`
`08:47.58`	`batphone`	`hel0p`
`08:48.15`	`benjk`	`with sip and reinvites, but * is not a sip proxy, its a user agent with a bridge at the back`
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`08:50.16`	`batphone`	`i want to build a teliax`
`08:50.19`	`batphone`	`in my bathroom`
`08:50.57`	`linagee`	`wtf? :( was voicepulse down earlier today? (around noon PST)`
`08:51.21`	`linagee`	`i had kept them since the last incident, but this is their second strike. :-/`
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`08:56.59`	`batphone`	`ser`
`08:57.01`	`batphone`	`ser ser ser`
`08:57.24`	`batphone`	`emerge: (2 of 2) net-misc/ser-0.9.4 Compile`
`08:57.42`	`batphone`	`damn, gentoo is nice`
`09:05.23`	`qoop`	`hey guys i have a question`
`09:05.45`	`benjk`	`another one?`
`09:07.38`	`qoop`	`is it possible to get a call back and have the pbx make a 3 way call?`
`09:07.45`	`intralanman`	`yup`
`09:07.53`	`qoop`	`nice`
`09:08.08`	`benjk`	`let it transfer you (and all the other calls) into a conference room`
`09:08.15`	`qoop`	`ni`
`09:08.16`	`qoop`	`nice`
`09:08.26`	`benjk`	`not even limited to 3 participants`
`09:08.33`	`qoop`	`i want to be able to get a call back from a vonage line and have it make a 3 way call`
`09:08.35`	`qoop`	`ok cool`
`09:08.54`	`benjk`	`there is also a facility called DISA`
`09:09.18`	`intralanman`	`yeah, i prefer the conference idea better though`
`09:09.20`	`benjk`	`it lets you dial in on your own number, authenticate and get a dialtone`
`09:09.42`	`benjk`	`this way you could set up the conference yourself from wherever you are`
`09:10.01`	`qoop`	`i need to have it call me back`
`09:10.18`	`intralanman`	`qoop: taking advantage of free incoming on a cell?`
`09:10.19`	`intralanman`	`lol`
`09:10.24`	`qoop`	`yeah`
`09:10.25`	`benjk`	`DISA can also give you a dialtone on a callback`
`09:11.04`	`qoop`	`so id be in and just make a 3 way call myself?`
`09:11.08`	`batphone`	`now THAT could be useful`
`09:11.52`	`qoop`	`i ended up at nerd vittles`
`09:12.08`	`benjk`	`lets say you have a means to tell your asterisk server to call you back`
`09:12.24`	`benjk`	`like for example a blip call from your cell phone with your caller ID`
`09:12.43`	`benjk`	`you could make it to use that as a trigger to call you back and give you a dialtone`
`09:12.58`	`benjk`	`then you can make calls and drop them into a conference room`
`09:13.49`	`benjk`	`once you have everybody you want in the conference room, you join the room yourself`
`09:13.49`	`qoop`	`ok`
`09:13.49`	`qoop`	`should i run asterisk on a dedicated machine?`
`09:13.49`	`intralanman`	`qoop: you know php or perl?`
`09:13.51`	`qoop`	`nope`
`09:13.55`	`intralanman`	`shell?`
`09:13.59`	`qoop`	`is that a problem?`
`09:14.02`	`intralanman`	`nah`
`09:14.11`	`qoop`	`i can learn`
`09:14.13`	`benjk`	`if you are going to use the Sipura and you don't have any zaptel card, then that crappy modem could come in handy as a timing source (not as a voice device)`
`09:14.19`	`intralanman`	`that just means benjk probably has the best way for you to do it right now`
`09:14.32`	`benjk`	`because the conference facility called "meetme" needs that zaptel timing reference`
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`09:14.53`	`benjk`	`alternatively you can use app_conference, which doesn't need zaptel timers`
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`09:15.33`	`benjk`	`its also nicer than meetme in that it creates conferences on the fly, without configuration entries`
`09:16.25`	`qoop`	`timing source?`
`09:16.44`	`benjk`	`a timer reference, so all the participants in the conference are in sync with their audio`
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`09:17.05`	`benjk`	`app_meetme wants a zaptel card for getting that timer reference`
`09:17.28`	`benjk`	`or a workaround called ztdummy, which mimics that aspect of a zaptel card`
`09:17.51`	`qoop`	`so i should use app_conference`
`09:17.57`	`benjk`	`many people say that its not as good as a card`
`09:18.33`	`benjk`	`so if you wanted to use app_meetme, you could use one of those cheap modems as a timing source even though you won't use it as an interface`
`09:18.34`	`qoop`	`i gotta get it all started so i can get a hold on the whole thing`
`09:18.49`	`benjk`	`app_conference is the most straightforward option though, I would say`
`09:18.54`	`qoop`	`ok`
`09:20.19`	`qoop`	`i'll look into that`
`09:23.03`	`qoop`	`i see`
`09:24.30`	`qoop`	`so openpbx and an spa 3000 is what im getting?`
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`09:27.03`	`benjk`	`opbx has app_conference by default because zaptel timer dependencies are removed, asterisk has app_meetme as default and app_conference is an option`
`09:30.01`	`qoop`	`cool`
`09:35.50`	`joelsolanki`	`Hello want to use 2 E1 card with Asterisk. Hardware is P4 with 1 gb ram. want to know wheather this hardware will transcode g711 to g729 60 channels without problem ?`
`09:36.00`	`joelsolanki`	`Any body using this scenario ?`
`09:37.33`	`joelsolanki`	`any body awake ?`
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`09:41.40`	`jmls`	`zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz`
`09:43.10`	`joelsolanki`	`can any body recommend me hardware for using 2 E1 card with transcoding from g711 to g729 ?`
`09:43.20`	`joelsolanki`	`concurrent calls will be 60`
`09:45.52`	`joelsolanki`	`?`
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`10:10.26`	`mrg82`	`I've compiled Asterisk 1.2.12.1 on the latest release of Debian, but receive many "-Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -g3" messages. Am I missing a library file? Sorry I'm quite new to linux. My install log is here: http://www.simplygenius.co.uk/_misc/stuff/installerrors.txt`
`10:14.05`	`r0d3nt\|m`	`those aren't errors.`
`10:15.17`	`mrg82`	`oh?`
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`10:16.06`	`mrg82`	`So there are no warnings`
`10:16.20`	`r0d3nt\|m`	`i see no mention of warnings in your compilation log.`
`10:16.32`	`mrg82`	`ok, thanks`
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`10:18.41`	`r0d3nt\|m`	`lol`
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`10:59.23`	`Livore`	`hi`
`10:59.46`	`Livore`	`I'm doing a study about asterisk`
`11:00.05`	`Livore`	`can someone help me about how asterisk handle authentication with sip?`
`11:01.23`	`Livore`	`asterisk always authenticate INVITE, BYE and REGISTER requests?`
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`11:33.17`	`aiksa[LV]`	`coppice: hi`
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`12:15.23`	`scottmcl`	`Afternoon`
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`12:23.00`	`funkmaster`	`is anyone using skypho in combination with asterisk? i have some trouble with the settings for the codecs..`
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`12:30.36`	`HumpBack`	`Hello all`
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`13:14.33`	`aiksa[LV]`	`or at least someone with knowladge of how misdn-init should work`
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`13:38.52`	`lilalinux`	`where do I put "videosupport=yes" in sip.conf? In [general]?`
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`13:58.36`	`lilalinux`	`If I receive a Call via ISDN and Asterisk hands it over to a SIP account. How do I transfer it from that SIP to a different one?`
`14:00.12`	`jtexter3`	`lilalinux: That will be handled by your SIP phone`
`14:00.23`	`jtexter3`	`What type of SIP phone are you using?`
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`14:03.42`	`Bobcat991966`	`hello all, I have been trying for a week to get google talk working with asterisk 1.4 svn. From what I can tell I need to install iksemel but im having a hard time figure out exactly how to do that. Any advice would be most appiciated.`
`14:04.25`	`Corydon76-home`	`Bobcat991966: are you using a distribution with package management?`
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`14:04.47`	`Bobcat991966`	`im using fedora 4.`
`14:05.00`	`Corydon76-home`	`Try: yum install iksemel-devel`
`14:05.11`	`Bobcat991966`	`ok let me give it a shot`
`14:05.14`	`Bobcat991966`	`thanks`
`14:05.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`If the distribution doesn't have it (and it may not), you'll need to download the iksemel tarball and compile and install it manually`
`14:06.07`	`lilalinux`	`jtexter3: ekiga`
`14:06.20`	`lilalinux`	`and a gigaset phone respectively`
`14:07.16`	`lilalinux`	`but I just read, that it's enough to put \|\|tT at the end of the destination`
`14:07.26`	`Bobcat991966`	`Corydon76, that has been my issue, I have downloaded the tar and tried to run the ./configure and make but iksemel keeps saying that it cannot find configure`
`14:07.35`	`lilalinux`	`then one can simply dial an extensions during the call and transfer it`
`14:08.09`	`Corydon76-home`	`Bobcat991966: did you cd into the directory?`
`14:08.15`	`Bobcat991966`	`yep`
`14:08.35`	`Corydon76-home`	`which tar did you download?`
`14:08.43`	`Bobcat991966`	`let me check`
`14:09.06`	`Bobcat991966`	`iksemel-1.2.tar`
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`14:09.53`	`Corydon76-home`	`configure exists here`
`14:10.07`	`Corydon76-home`	`You didn't unpack the files on Windows, did you?`
`14:10.20`	`Bobcat991966`	`yes`
`14:10.31`	`Bobcat991966`	`actually I tried it both ways`
`14:10.36`	`Corydon76-home`	`There's your problem`
`14:10.44`	`Corydon76-home`	`You can only unpack the files on Linux`
`14:11.01`	`Bobcat991966`	`ok let me try it again`
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`14:14.31`	`deb_user`	`hello all`
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`14:15.37`	`deb_user`	`I'm having a problem maintaining IAX2 calls through a vpn, I can connect, but shortly after voice transmission begins the call severs the connection between the vpn servers, although shortly thereafter they reconnect`
`14:16.05`	`deb_user`	`of course, once the vpn connection has been severed, the call is also disconnected`
`14:16.35`	`deb_user`	`using iLBC codec to keep bandwidth overhead to a minimum`
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`14:16.44`	`deb_user`	`anybody have an insights?`
`14:17.17`	`Bobcat991966`	`Corydon76: should I be installing iksemel or iksemel-dev?`
`14:17.23`	`Bobcat991966`	`or both`
`14:17.42`	`jtexter3`	`lilalinux: There is a key press required if you are doing transfers via asterisk. You need to set that up in features.conf, and add tT to your dial command.`
`14:23.12`	`Corydon76-home`	`Bobcat991966: both`
`14:23.16`	`lilalinux`	`jtexter3: thx`
`14:23.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`Bobcat991966: -dev should require the other`
`14:28.33`	`Bobcat991966`	`thaks`
`14:28.38`	`Bobcat991966`	`thanks`
`14:29.21`	`Bobcat991966`	`Corydon76: do you have googletalk working with Asterisk?`
`14:33.25`	`Corydon76-home`	`no`
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`14:40.56`	`coppice`	`what kind of issue make people turn on relaxed DTMF?`
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`14:44.39`	`Corydon76-home`	`coppice: typically, it's cell phone companies whose DTMF specs are a little weird`
`14:44.39`	`Corydon76-home`	`Sprint PCS, for example`
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`14:45.29`	`pabluss`	`ops`
`14:45.29`	`pabluss`	`laag`
`14:45.40`	`coppice`	`I only looked at what relaxed does today, and it doesn't change the parameter I expected it to. I can't image how the signal would ever be screwed up in a way that needs what it does. weird`
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`14:54.02`	`pabluss`	`morning [TK]D-Fender`
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`14:54.31`	`pabluss`	`[TK]D-Fender I'm ready i've just solve the problem`
`14:54.49`	`pabluss`	`the solution was restart asterisk`
`14:55.24`	`pabluss`	`when you reload chan_zap`
`14:55.48`	`pabluss`	`asterisk dosen't start good`
`14:56.06`	`pabluss`	`for this reason i get severals problems with zapata.conf`
`14:56.11`	`pabluss`	`now all working`
`14:56.13`	`pabluss`	`:D`
`14:56.54`	`pabluss`	`look at this post [TK]D-Fender http://www.spinics.net/lists/asterisk/msg05663.html`
`14:56.59`	`lilalinux`	`jtexter3: I've set atxfer => 2 in features.conf, and I've set TRANSFER_CONTEXT=myinternal, have set wWtT in the Dial commands, but asterisk refuses to listen to 2`
`14:58.02`	`lilalinux`	`res_features.so is loaded`
`15:01.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pabluss : Hmmm, ok, good to hear its working again`
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`15:20.15`	`lilalinux`	`If I want to be reachable by arbitrary ppl with SIP, do I need to create accounts for them in sip.conf?`
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`15:26.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lilalinux : nope.`
`15:29.16`	`Bobcat991966`	`helo all im trying to run .configure --with-iksemel=PATH for googletalk support . but it keeps telling me the following configure: *** It appears that you do not have the iksemel development package i nstalled.`
`15:29.17`	`Bobcat991966`	`configure: *** without explicitly specifying --with-iksemel. any ideas?`
`15:30.38`	`Bobcat991966`	`I did install iksemel-development and yum info tells me its there.`
`15:34.10`	`lilalinux`	`[TK]D-Fender: How else, do they reach me?`
`15:35.28`	`saftsack`	`can somebody of you ping tel.t-online.de? ^^`
`15:38.33`	`benjk`	`lilalinux, they can reach you by SIP URI if you set it up`
`15:38.53`	`benjk`	`sip:fred@flintstones.org`
`15:41.12`	`lilalinux`	`benjk: how do I set that up?`
`15:41.42`	`lilalinux`	`at the moment I've only set up 2 sipgate accounts`
`15:41.54`	`benjk`	`I think we have a HOWTO for that on www.astmasters.net`
`15:41.59`	`lilalinux`	`thx`
`15:42.04`	`benjk`	`under menu HOWTOs`
`15:42.12`	`benjk`	`look for SIP URIs`
`15:42.48`	`saftsack`	`can somebody of you reach tel.t-online.de?`
`15:43.13`	`lilalinux`	`saftsack: nein, pingt nicht`
`15:43.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I am reachable at sip://andrew@aocomputing.net for example.`
`15:45.00`	`benjk`	`lilalinux, its at http://www.astmasters.net/howtos.html, scroll down to "Using SIP URIs with Asterisk"`
`15:45.11`	`saftsack`	`germanies biggest voip authenticate server is down :(`
`15:45.16`	`lilalinux`	`benjk: yeah, i'm there, thx`
`15:45.28`	`saftsack`	`WHATS THAT? there should be still someone who says that voip is reliable ...`
`15:47.06`	`lilalinux`	`benjk: why do I have to setup sip.flintstones.org, if the uri is fred@flintstones.org?`
`15:47.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`saftsack : VoIP is reliable. the INTERNET on the otherhand... is another matter ENTIRELY`
`15:47.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lilalinux : you don't`
`15:47.51`	`saftsack`	`[TK]D-Fender, thats true ;) but the internet is the medium for VoIP`
`15:47.54`	`lilalinux`	`good`
`15:48.07`	`saftsack`	`you cannot say TDM is reliable but the net for TDM is crap`
`15:48.10`	`benjk`	`if your server runs on the machine which is flintstones.org, that's ok`
`15:48.24`	`saftsack`	`lol`
`15:48.38`	`saftsack`	`i thought that if the server is tel.t-online.de everything would be ok too`
`15:49.08`	`benjk`	`but imagine you have a bunch of different mqchines, like mail.flintstones.org for mail, www.flintstones.org for the web server, and sip.flintstones.org for your asterisk server`
`15:49.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`saftsack : says YOU. The Internet is A medium. Many people use it just inside a local LAN you know...`
`15:49.42`	`benjk`	`in that case you use the SRV record in the DNS to make sure that all sip calls to the domain go to the machine sip.flintstones.org`
`15:49.51`	`saftsack`	`[TK]D-Fender, i use it inside too ;) and its great because i dont have to buy new gw's and so on just because i have new telephones`
`15:49.54`	`Optic`	`is it still recommended to restart asterisk daily?`
`15:50.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Optic : LOL.... monthly maybe`
`15:50.10`	`saftsack`	`but in the external it isnt as reliable as the TDM net in my honorous opinion`
`15:50.59`	`benjk`	`of course the PSTN is more reliable, no doubt about it`
`15:52.20`	`coppice`	`even on a LAN VoIP is not entirely reliable. there is a limit to what QoS can do in a packet switched environment`
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`15:52.26`	`saftsack`	`whats about companies which are sell things about the telephone. do they use external voip? (its not a provocating question its just for understanding)`
`15:53.46`	`benjk`	`if you do a lot of reloads on your asterisk server, daily restart may be a shrewd thing to do`
`15:53.54`	`saftsack`	`coppice, how do you mean? if i have 50 telephones and all works there is no chance that it doesnt work in the next second (if the pbx doesnt fail and if the gw doesnt fail and if the swicht doesnt fail)`
`15:54.16`	`saftsack`	`in the internet it can be broken from one second to another`
`15:54.16`	`benjk`	`if you never reload, never use the CLI, then you can often go for quite a while, months and months`
`15:54.22`	`coppice`	`what if something floods the LAN?`
`15:54.44`	`saftsack`	`coppice, how would this be possible in a closed lan just for telephones?`
`15:55.15`	`saftsack`	`dont say and if somebody plugs a laptop to this lan because if someone wants to kill your telephony he can do it easier as flooding the lan`
`15:55.40`	`coppice`	`ah, OK, a just for telephones LAN could be provisioned above 100% capacity. who does that, though? VoIP is only interesting when you can combine stuff`
`15:56.18`	`saftsack`	`the combinor of both lans is the pbx`
`15:56.38`	`coppice`	`I've never seen it done`
`15:56.53`	`saftsack`	`?`
`15:56.59`	`coppice`	`people want a common plug and play medium, or it just gets annoying`
`15:57.00`	`benjk`	`on the PSTN, you can nuke a switch in he middle of your call path and you can still coninue the call`
`15:57.21`	`coppice`	`benjk: you will get a 20ms loss, though :-)`
`15:57.25`	`Optic`	`moooooo`
`15:57.30`	`benjk`	`yeah :)`
`15:59.54`	`coppice`	`companies like VoIP, because it allows consolidation of their networking. if they have to treat telephony as something special on a separate LAN, it is just an overpriced alternative to a traditional PBX.`
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`16:02.54`	`saftsack`	`coppice, voip isnt more expensive than traditional in my opinion`
`16:03.12`	`benjk`	`depends, how much cabling you'd have to do`
`16:03.29`	`benjk`	`cabling can be the most expensive part of a deployment`
`16:03.36`	`saftsack`	`thats true`
`16:03.51`	`saftsack`	`one lan cable compared to many wires for tdm phones`
`16:04.06`	`saftsack`	`respective 2 lan cables one for computers and one for voip`
`16:04.22`	`benjk`	`even a separate isolated lan for telephony only can be very costly to install if it isnt already there`
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`16:05.05`	`saftsack`	`thats true but imagine a new install`
`16:05.29`	`benjk`	`few deployments are green field sites`
`16:05.42`	`saftsack`	`voip are more expensive than tdm phones but if you take the cheapest voip phone from a good manufactor (speech quality) then it is cheaper than a tdm phone + gateway`
`16:06.32`	`lilalinux`	`how do I match a-z? X only matches 0-9`
`16:07.18`	`lilalinux`	`well apart from [a-z]`
`16:09.02`	`Optic`	`ok bye!`
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`16:14.23`	`lilalinux`	`benjk: if there are several domains pointing to that machine, will asterisk accept all of them in SIP URIs?`
`16:15.12`	`benjk`	`yes, but in order to distinguish between them you will want to look at some SIP channel variables like SIPDOMAIN etc`
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`16:15.47`	`benjk`	`if you have a fred@flintstones.org and a different fred@jurassic.com`
`16:21.45`	`lilalinux`	`thx, i don't want to distinguish between them (at the moment)`
`16:22.56`	`lilalinux`	`Is there a system that lets you call yourself to check its working?`
`16:26.21`	`benjk`	`you can use a sip softphone to call the sip uri from a different machine`
`16:27.06`	`saftsack`	`can somebody of you look for me plaese if someone of you can get a bad registration from tel.t-online.de as a lifesign?`
`16:27.49`	`saftsack`	`works now :)`
`16:27.53`	`saftsack`	`thanks`
`16:28.44`	`funkmaster`	`anyone can help me getting rid of these errors? http://pastebin.ca/194161`
`16:29.54`	`funkmaster`	`and is anyone maybe using skypho? i can't figure out the correct codec settings, i can be called make calls but we can't hear each other..`
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`16:36.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`funkmaster : That a MoH error. You have no MoH music. That has nothing to do with codecs or your call`
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`16:37.04`	`funkmaster`	`yeah i know, but i was wondering how i could get rid of that...`
`16:37.21`	`funkmaster`	`the skypho thing was just an additional question..`
`16:38.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`funkmaster : Well the message is pretty clear. You don't have any MP3's int he right folder to sue for MoH. Thats not rocket science... go get some`
`16:38.51`	`funkmaster`	`aaah okey, hehe stupid me, thx :)`
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`16:39.44`	`nextime`	`anyone using latest ooh323 channel from asterisk-addons svn trunk?`
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`17:25.07`	`Inverted`	`is there a way to record a file with asterisk, pause the recording, rewind 5 seconds, and begin recording over the last 5 seconds of recorded audio?`
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`17:25.52`	`HarryR`	`you'd have to record to separate files and do the processing outside of asterisk ;)`
`17:26.21`	`benjk`	`there was an app for this sort of thing`
`17:26.39`	`benjk`	`app_dictate or something like that`
`17:27.17`	`HarryR`	`http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/dictate.html`
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`17:47.06`	`pabluss`	`hi again... i have doubt about dialplan , i want only ivan can make outbound calls, but i can't do it.. thanks for any hint --> http://pastebin.ca/194220`
`17:48.41`	`BlepsoaF`	`pabluss: why dont you place users into certain contexts from the sip.conf, then give them function sets via include`
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`17:49.07`	`pabluss`	`yeah i'm trying whithout success`
`17:49.13`	`pabluss`	`please see pastebin`
`17:49.19`	`pabluss`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:49.24`	`BlepsoaF`	`I looked, but I dont see your sip.conf`
`17:49.35`	`pabluss`	`opsss`
`17:50.42`	`BlepsoaF`	`I dunno, im going to get lunch - later all`
`17:51.40`	`pabluss`	`i will try again in sip.conf`
`17:51.42`	`pabluss`	`thanks`
`17:51.43`	`pabluss`	`;)`
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`18:14.39`	`Inverted`	`how do change the voice files used for commands like Authenticate() ?`
`18:15.50`	`benjk`	`define change`
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`18:18.37`	`Inverted`	`it uses the voice from the lady in most of asterisk's recordings. what if you want custom recordings put in place?`
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`18:19.27`	`benjk`	`you record your own and replace the sound files in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds`
`18:19.51`	`Inverted`	`benjk: i know, but how do I know which sound files Authenticate() uses, which sound file Dictate() uses, etc`
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`18:20.26`	`benjk`	`should be obvious from the names of the files`
`18:20.57`	`benjk`	`the console will diplay the filenames when they are played`
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`18:21.48`	`benjk`	`otherwise app_authenticate.c and app_dictate.c`
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`18:49.26`	`tzafrir_home`	`Inverted, set verbose 3`
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`18:49.50`	`tzafrir_home`	`then when asterisk is running, you'll see in the CLI the names of hte files that are bing played`
`18:51.01`	`QbY`	`If I do not have maxmessage set in asterisk, what would prevent me from leaving a message longer than 10 seconds in someone's mailbox?`
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`19:07.00`	`nextime`	`anyone using h323 ( preferred channel is ooh323c ) with * 1.4?`
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`19:29.46`	`Optic`	`hi hi hi`
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`19:46.39`	`robin_sz`	`meep?`
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`19:49.27`	`robin_sz`	`so .,.. bristuff for asterisk ...`
`19:49.35`	`robin_sz`	`is there a simple patch for this ?`
`19:49.36`	`newpers`	`this is probably a silly question, but do cell phone have hardware fingerprints that asterisk can detect (upon an incoming sms message or phone call)`
`19:50.22`	`benjk`	`robin_sz, what do you mean?`
`19:50.32`	`robin_sz`	`the "official" installer thing was crazy beyoind beleif .. tried to download stuff and compile it itself, needed to run as root and a variety of other madness`
`19:51.07`	`benjk`	`it contains patches, you can always apply them manually`
`19:51.18`	`robin_sz`	`I just want to run * with my hfc based ISDN card. I have the zaphfc stuff done and working fine ..`
`19:51.31`	`robin_sz`	`now I need to patch my * I guess`
`19:51.50`	`benjk`	`newpers, gsm phones have hardware fingerprints but they are only visible to the network operator`
`19:51.52`	`robin_sz`	`is there some really good reason * doesnt have this stuff as standard?`
`19:52.25`	`benjk`	`commercial reasons`
`19:52.35`	`robin_sz`	`such as?`
`19:52.48`	`benjk`	`Junghanns sell ISDN cards`
`19:52.53`	`benjk`	`Digium sell ISDN cards`
`19:52.58`	`robin_sz`	`uh huh ...`
`19:53.03`	`robin_sz`	`and?`
`19:53.31`	`benjk`	`why would Digium make it particularly easy for a competitor`
`19:53.42`	`robin_sz`	`hmm ... ooh, I know ..`
`19:53.59`	`robin_sz`	`because its open source and users would find it useful?`
`19:54.16`	`newpers`	`benjk, thanks`
`19:54.35`	`benjk`	`Digium's shareholders/stakeholders will find it more useful to sell more of their own hardware though`
`19:55.05`	`robin_sz`	`shrug ... does it need patches to work with the digium single channel ISDN cards?`
`19:55.07`	`benjk`	`newpers, the fingerprints are called IMEIs`
`19:55.35`	`benjk`	`Digium single channel ISDN cards?`
`19:55.41`	`newpers`	`:) thanks`
`19:55.46`	`robin_sz`	`yeah ..`
`19:55.56`	`benjk`	`as in International Mobile Equipment Identity`
`19:56.21`	`robin_sz`	`if you type #6 on the dialpad, it should show you the imei`
`19:56.46`	`benjk`	`depends on the handset`
`19:57.10`	`benjk`	`in any event, the imei is not transmitted to the recipient of an SMS`
`19:57.23`	`benjk`	`it stays within the gsm network`
`19:57.26`	`robin_sz`	`benjk, if it will work un patched with the Digium single channel ISDN cards, I'll buy one ... so, I guess thats a fair comment`
`19:57.26`	`newpers`	`well... i guess this was the right room for that question :)`
`19:57.54`	`newpers`	`s/room/channel/`
`19:57.55`	`newpers`	`whatever`
`19:58.00`	`benjk`	`single channel ISDN card as in half an ISDN card?`
`19:58.18`	`robin_sz`	`well, 2B, 1D ...`
`19:58.32`	`benjk`	`newpers, not really the right channel :) you were just being lucky with your timing ;)`
`19:58.56`	`newpers`	`anwyways, there goes my idea`
`19:58.56`	`benjk`	`2B is two channels`
`19:59.17`	`robin_sz`	`its onbe channel of BRI isdn ...`
`19:59.21`	`newpers`	`thanks for the help, benjk`
`19:59.35`	`robin_sz`	`2 traffic, 1 control`
`19:59.54`	`robin_sz`	`i channel of ISDN in my crazy terminology`
`20:00.02`	`robin_sz`	`but thats what I meant anyway`
`20:00.04`	`robin_sz`	`so ...`
`20:00.06`	`benjk`	`single port BRI card`
`20:00.22`	`benjk`	`I was under the impression Digium's BRI card was a quad port card`
`20:00.28`	`robin_sz`	`whatever ... will * work unpayched with digiums single BRI card?`
`20:00.50`	`robin_sz`	`eh? you mean they dont even offer a single BRI?`
`20:01.03`	`benjk`	`if they have such a card, which I doubt, then it would presumably work unpatched`
`20:01.17`	`robin_sz`	`stunning.`
`20:01.19`	`benjk`	`I think their BRI card is a quad port card`
`20:01.35`	`robin_sz`	`ick`
`20:01.38`	`benjk`	`and they use misdn I think, so you have to install and configure that`
`20:01.46`	`benjk`	`it doesn't use zaptel`
`20:02.12`	`benjk`	`Junghanns' drivers are the only ones that utilise zaptel and libpri`
`20:03.38`	`benjk`	`Junghanns also don't have a single port BRI card`
`20:04.02`	`robin_sz`	`thats fine ... I am using a random HFC based BRI`
`20:04.03`	`benjk`	`BUT, their drivers cover the single port PCI reference design from Cologne Chip`
`20:04.15`	`robin_sz`	`zaphfc`
`20:04.19`	`benjk`	`yep`
`20:05.26`	`robin_sz`	`weird marketing model`
`20:05.57`	`robin_sz`	`you'd think that to be useful to small businesses and home users, cheap BRI capability was a must have`
`20:06.51`	`florz`	`robin_sz: in .eu, yeah, not so much in .us`
`20:06.58`	`robin_sz`	`where?`
`20:07.40`	`robin_sz`	`oh ,, there`
`20:07.51`	`florz`	`robin_sz: Well, this continent you aren't quite on ;-)`
`20:08.31`	`robin_sz`	`well, yeah, I thnk its mostly still analogue lines on overhead poles there, but I rpesume some plae out ther emust want to use more than just a few analogue lines`
`20:09.20`	`florz`	`robin_sz: Well, that's what's called PRI, then :-)`
`20:09.33`	`robin_sz`	`it was "Interesting" ... a bit like visiting a living museum`
`20:10.13`	`benjk`	`from an economies of scale point of view it makes more sense to do PRI only and sell less than full capacity on those PRIs for smaller businesses, aka fractional T1s`
`20:10.43`	`robin_sz`	`hardly ...`
`20:10.51`	`benjk`	`absolutely yes`
`20:10.51`	`robin_sz`	`BRI is quite common`
`20:11.00`	`robin_sz`	`PRI is somewhat rare`
`20:11.19`	`benjk`	`the electronics on a single span PRI card are far less than those on a quad BRI card`
`20:11.35`	`robin_sz`	`indeed`
`20:11.47`	`robin_sz`	`roiughly the same as on a single BRI infact`
`20:12.10`	`benjk`	`so if you sell PRI cards only and offer people affordable PRI circuits with 4 channels, that makes more sense`
`20:12.28`	`robin_sz`	`and a single BRI card costs what? $20? and a single PRI $950 ...`
`20:12.45`	`benjk`	`single PRI costs about 40-50 USD`
`20:12.58`	`benjk`	`in bulk`
`20:13.09`	`robin_sz`	`nah`
`20:13.14`	`benjk`	`yes`
`20:13.22`	`robin_sz`	`$950 from digium`
`20:13.26`	`robin_sz`	`TE110P`
`20:13.29`	`benjk`	`I am talking manufacturing cost`
`20:13.43`	`robin_sz`	`oh, $5 to $10`
`20:13.51`	`benjk`	`no`
`20:13.58`	`robin_sz`	`sure?`
`20:14.03`	`benjk`	`5-10 is the printed circuit board`
`20:14.25`	`robin_sz`	`in bulk? nah, $1 .. btu keep going`
`20:14.29`	`benjk`	`the electronics and the mounting and testing adds another 40+`
`20:14.55`	`robin_sz`	`mounting should be less than 2 minutes ...`
`20:15.04`	`robin_sz`	`less than 1 probably`
`20:15.35`	`robin_sz`	`whatever ...`
`20:15.43`	`robin_sz`	`lets say it does cost $50 ...`
`20:15.51`	`robin_sz`	`$950 retail is crazy`
`20:15.55`	`benjk`	`well, go and obtain some quotations for having the card manufactured`
`20:16.18`	`robin_sz`	`benjk, thats OK, I have the gear ...`
`20:16.21`	`justinu\|laptop`	`the tormenta 2 PCI specs are still on the web`
`20:16.27`	`benjk`	`you'll see it costs anywhere between 50 and 2000 USD a piece, depending on volume`
`20:16.28`	`justinu\|laptop`	`quad t1/e1 board`
`20:17.28`	`robin_sz`	`benjk, I have a Zevatech SMD placemtn machine, and Zevatech reflow oven, and buy and stuff "a few" borads from time to time, I know the costs.`
`20:18.14`	`benjk`	`the Xilinx chip alone can cost you 50 USD a piece if you only buy 100 of them`
`20:18.47`	`robin_sz`	`again, if you say so ... FPGAS are fairly cheap in moderate numbers`
`20:19.36`	`robin_sz`	`mind you, the Xilinx webpack IDE stuff is VERY good for FPGA development`
`20:19.43`	`robin_sz`	`I do enjoy that a lot`
`20:19.49`	`benjk`	`well, you are welcome to give me contact details for parts suppliers who are both willing to take small quantity orders like say 50 or 100 and charge moderate prices`
`20:20.30`	`robin_sz`	`well, whatever ... next time you need a board stuffing quote int he UK, let me know ...`
`20:20.45`	`robin_sz`	`anwya ... for the small business with just a couple of lines ..`
`20:20.56`	`benjk`	`cause I am still trying to put something together for a Japanese customer who want a card that absolutely has to be Made in Japan but the Japanese EMDS services will only do it if you provide the parts to them`
`20:21.45`	`robin_sz`	`a PRI is not really an option is it .. card is expensive, having PRI is not an option either as most telcos offer a minimum of 8 lines on a PRI`
`20:22.06`	`robin_sz`	`well, if they wanted it making in the UK, Id ahppily stiff and reflow the borads for you`
`20:22.36`	`robin_sz`	`it will make a change from making light dimmers :)`
`20:23.59`	`robin_sz`	`and where was I, oh yes, and analogue via an X100P card is "sub optimal" ...`
`20:24.07`	`robin_sz`	`si BRI is a solution`
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`20:27.12`	`robin_sz`	`oh well ... so, the upshot of all that waffle is: Digium like to keep it difficult to implement a single BRI solution, even though they dont make a card to service that particular market niche?`
`20:27.18`	`benjk`	`like I said, they want "Made in Japan" by a Japanese manfuacturer, sold and serviced by a Japanese companies, using Japanese billing procedures and all the rest of it`
`20:27.33`	`robin_sz`	`well, I aint movin ;)`
`20:27.46`	`benjk`	`to be honest, I am surprised that Digium made any BRI card at all`
`20:28.02`	`robin_sz`	`in eu, its quite common`
`20:28.15`	`robin_sz`	`does their Asterisk appliance have one?`
`20:28.28`	`benjk`	`sure, but Digium isn't exactly an internationally minded shop`
`20:29.22`	`benjk`	`they have quite a good going in the US market and don't seem to care much about anything outside of the US, with the exception of Canada perhaps`
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`20:29.45`	`robin_sz`	`hmm`
`20:30.09`	`robin_sz`	`so .. including BRI support as standard (the patches are already there) would not harm them then?`
`20:30.54`	`robin_sz`	`does the Rapid/Xorcomm thing have BRI support?`
`20:31.20`	`benjk`	`it wouldn't harm them if they had accepted an offer from Sangoma to pay them a license fee for every Sangoma card sold for use with Asterisk, and yet they refused`
`20:38.33`	`brookshire`	`benjk: wouldn't you?`
`20:39.10`	`robin_sz`	`sigh .. as a user, it doenst help me much`
`20:39.33`	`brookshire`	`robin: as a user of asterisk you are saving money period`
`20:40.42`	`robin_sz`	`brookshire, in this particular case, I am not a user.`
`20:40.52`	`robin_sz`	`(although I do have other production servers)`
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`20:42.27`	`robin_sz`	`brookshire, I installed * with a genuine Digium X100P analogue card .. and it was pants`
`20:42.39`	`robin_sz`	`so now I want to move to BRI so its actually useable`
`20:42.41`	`brookshire`	`pants?`
`20:42.45`	`robin_sz`	`crap.`
`20:42.59`	`S^P`	`hi, I have a sip user account, I'm registering asterisk to that account but when a call comes asterisk makes a bridge and call hangs up`
`20:43.18`	`S^P`	`can any one please guide me y?`
`20:43.57`	`robin_sz`	`but ... I dont need PRI nor can I afford it ( this is for my business, not my usual clients)`
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`20:44.13`	`robin_sz`	`so .. .I have to figure out haow to get * to work with BRI`
`20:45.04`	`brookshire`	`http://www.digium.com/en/wheretobuy/digiumdirect/productview.php?product_code=B410P`
`20:45.32`	`robin_sz`	`over priced, only need 1 channel. have a suitable card.`
`20:45.36`	`brookshire`	`there you go, that + $300 for a computer = whole pbx`
`20:45.50`	`brookshire`	`let us price something from cisco :)`
`20:46.01`	`florz`	`robin_sz: Well, use some HFC card and everything should be fine!?`
`20:46.20`	`robin_sz`	`florz, I have that alread .. and the zap_hfc driver isntalled and working thanks.`
`20:46.59`	`florz`	`robin_sz: Well, what's missing then?`
`20:47.06`	`robin_sz`	`the BRI support in *`
`20:47.27`	`florz`	`robin_sz: You mean like "ISDN features"?`
`20:49.06`	`robin_sz`	`I mean like "setup_zap: Unknown signalling method 'bri_cpe'"`
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`20:49.35`	`robin_sz`	`it needs the bri stuff patches .. sigh ... I was just whining about having to patch it all manually I guess`
`20:49.35`	`florz`	`robin_sz: You are using bristuff, aren't you?`
`20:49.41`	`robin_sz`	`no .. not yet`
`20:49.52`	`robin_sz`	`failed to get it to work so far`
`20:49.55`	`florz`	`Well, yeah, you probably should :-)`
`20:50.25`	`findlay`	`what does cause code 16 mean?`
`20:50.46`	`benjk`	`the cause codes are in causes.h`
`20:50.58`	`benjk`	`under asterisk/include...`
`20:52.08`	`benjk`	`#define OPBX_CAUSE_NORMAL_CLEARING 16`
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`20:54.07`	`Blackthorn`	`When talking on my sip phone the other person on the other end says they feel I am over-driving the connection.. what do I adjust?`
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`20:55.02`	`benjk`	`txgain`
`20:55.21`	`Blackthorn`	`in the zapata.conf file? or on the spa?`
`20:55.50`	`benjk`	`if it goes through a zaptel card then zaptel,conf`
`20:56.16`	`Blackthorn`	`in zpata.conf i have txgain=0.0 how far of a movement should i try? -1.0 ?`
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`20:57.32`	`tzafrir_home`	`0.0 means "no change"`
`20:57.49`	`tzafrir_home`	`-1.0 isn't much`
`20:58.17`	`findlay`	`is it related to a dB scale?`
`20:58.26`	`justinu\|laptop`	`heh, nope`
`20:58.31`	`tzafrir_home`	`findlay, yes`
`20:58.42`	`justinu\|laptop`	`nope`
`20:58.50`	`findlay`	`so the numbers are logrithmic?`
`20:58.56`	`robin_sz`	`well the docs say its db`
`20:59.18`	`justinu\|laptop`	`pretty sure it's not`
`20:59.32`	`robin_sz`	`feel free to update the docs`
`20:59.43`	`Blackthorn`	`do need to just restart asterisk or do i need to restart the system in order to see the change made in txgain?`
`20:59.44`	`justinu\|laptop`	`isn't my product :P`
`20:59.45`	`tzafrir_home`	`sound level is messured in a logarithmic scale`
`20:59.48`	`findlay`	`I didn't ask is but rather is it some kind of transform implicitly wondering whether the transform preserves the log scale`
`21:00.27`	`tzafrir_home`	`"reload" is good enough`
`21:00.36`	`tzafrir_home`	`or even "reload chan_zap.so"`
`21:02.23`	`robin_sz`	`oh, sod it ... I'll just do the bristuff thing as root and prayt it doens shit allover my system then`
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`21:03.13`	`robin_sz`	`I just KNOW im going to regret this ...`
`21:05.20`	`S^P`	`http://pastebin.com/802128 << can any one please help`
`21:05.47`	`S^P`	`whats going on step 7 ?`
`21:06.37`	`findlay`	`so I have a VoIP provider that I connect to via IAX2. After trying to send a call to the provider I get cause code 16 back from them after about 2 seconds and the call is ended`
`21:07.25`	`Blackthorn`	`Oct 7 18:13:53 WARNING[5635]: chan_zap.c:10879 setup_zap: Ignoring switchtype`
`21:07.25`	`Blackthorn`	`Oct 7 18:13:53 WARNING[5635]: chan_zap.c:10879 setup_zap: Ignoring signalling`
`21:07.36`	`Blackthorn`	`kinda strange message when i reload the chan_zap.so`
`21:07.44`	`justinu\|laptop`	`normal`
`21:08.12`	`findlay`	`why would they be sending cause code 16?`
`21:08.40`	`S^P`	`please guide me why call droped after asterisk bridge it? any idea?`
`21:08.43`	`Blackthorn`	`ko thanks, for the help.`
`21:11.23`	`benjk`	`cause code 16 is normal clearing`
`21:11.49`	`benjk`	`it means "Everything is just fine"`
`21:12.31`	`findlay`	`S^P: you might try with 'sip debug' to see more output`
`21:14.33`	`S^P`	`findlay: the other device send BYE`
`21:14.36`	`findlay`	`benjk: ok, then the only thing I see that I think is strange is that the remote host hangup's the call right away`
`21:18.09`	`benjk`	`findlay, iax2 debug is your friend`
`21:19.00`	`findlay`	`benjk: already turned it on and am reading through the output`
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`21:22.28`	`findlay`	`http://pastebin.ca/194391`
`21:22.33`	`findlay`	`that's the whole call`
`21:23.48`	`benjk`	`you have to talk to your provider about that`
`21:23.59`	`benjk`	`they send you a HANGUP`
`21:24.20`	`findlay`	`you don't think I have anything dumb in my configs?`
`21:24.23`	`benjk`	`with reason "normal clearing"`
`21:24.47`	`findlay`	`I can see that they accepted the call, but then hungup`
`21:24.53`	`benjk`	`well, they accept the call`
`21:25.07`	`findlay`	`I take that as an endorsement of my auth`
`21:25.14`	`benjk`	`so its not an authentication nor a codec problem`
`21:25.20`	`findlay`	`yeah`
`21:25.35`	`benjk`	`and if it was a network problem you would see a lot of PING PONG messages`
`21:26.01`	`findlay`	`I am seeing those about every minute`
`21:26.12`	`benjk`	`they just hang up on you and they claim "normal clearing" which really means that your remote party has hung up`
`21:26.29`	`benjk`	`every minute once or so is ok`
`21:26.50`	`findlay`	`k`
`21:26.50`	`benjk`	`that's just a sort of hearbeat, like "hey I am still here, are you also still there?"`
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`21:27.38`	`benjk`	`they have to check their logs and check what the cause at their remote end is`
`21:28.02`	`AsteriskMonkey`	`Having issues with an ADTRAN 550 and a te207p :P cant get them to talk to each other`
`21:28.08`	`AsteriskMonkey`	`any ideas...`
`21:31.23`	`benjk`	`findlay, you say this is a provider?`
`21:32.22`	`findlay`	`yes`
`21:32.22`	`benjk`	`did they tell you to call 's' ?`
`21:32.27`	`findlay`	`no`
`21:32.37`	`benjk`	`I would have thought you'd want to call some PSTN number through them`
`21:32.43`	`findlay`	`I'm calling 's' on their system?`
`21:32.52`	`benjk`	`yes, that's what your log says`
`21:32.53`	`findlay`	`I know they run asterisk internally`
`21:33.01`	`benjk`	`CALLED NUMBER : s`
`21:33.20`	`benjk`	`this likely goes to their [default] context`
`21:33.25`	`findlay`	`I thought that was from kphone to asterisk`
`21:33.29`	`benjk`	`and that probably has a Hangup()`
`21:34.26`	`benjk`	`no you are calling IAX2/s1.arrivaltel.com`
`21:34.48`	`benjk`	`and its a Tx frame (Tx for transmit)`
`21:35.10`	`findlay`	`so it looks like I just need to read up some more on the asterisk docs`
`21:35.54`	`benjk`	`you probably need to dial a PSTN number, possibly with some prefix, then some context`
`21:36.35`	`benjk`	`like IAX2/provider/0018005551234@foobar`
`21:38.16`	`benjk`	`you need to aks your provider how you are to dial a PSTN number`
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`21:38.24`	`benjk`	`what kind of prefix they expect, if any`
`21:38.30`	`benjk`	`what context they expect`
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`21:44.47`	`findlay`	`benjk: thanks for the help`
`21:45.02`	`benjk`	`welcome`
`21:45.56`	`AsteriskMonkey`	`can an adtran 550 talk to a digium board?`
`21:46.31`	`benjk`	`I would think so`
`21:46.50`	`benjk`	`try searching for ADTRAN on Voip-Info.org, there shoudl be some example configs`
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`21:51.11`	`AsteriskMonkey`	`yes the 550 is pri though :P`
`21:51.17`	`AsteriskMonkey`	`no love.. ive tried many configs`
`21:51.25`	`AsteriskMonkey`	`i think its dalking fame relay`
`21:51.59`	`AsteriskMonkey`	`i thank i have to dig some adtran books up :)`
`21:53.19`	`dasenjo`	`Hi! I'm using a t110p, I can load the module and start asterisk without problem, but the light is off, and all the calls got Congestion.`
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`22:15.05`	`findlay`	`when I call someone I can hear them, but they cannot hear me`
`22:15.31`	`_omer`	`findlay...NAT?`
`22:15.40`	`findlay`	`I'm calling with a softphone and I can hear myself talk into the mic`
`22:15.45`	`findlay`	`_omer: no`
`22:16.54`	`*** join/#asterisk sung (i=sung@realfuckingnews.com)`
`22:16.56`	`sung`	`hey`
`22:17.00`	`sung`	`any of you have a wav file of a phone ringing?`
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`22:30.03`	`findlay`	`does my softphone sip client have to be doing the same codec as the one I'm sending out over iax2?`
`22:35.09`	`sung`	`found it`
`22:35.10`	`sung`	`wee.`
`22:35.34`	`anon_WHISKING`	`I have a bottle.`
`22:36.08`	`findlay`	`well, this is depressing`
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`22:36.27`	`anon_WHISKING`	`this is exciting`
`22:36.43`	`pabluss`	`hmm`
`22:37.01`	`findlay`	`anon_WHISKING: but in any case you couldn't hear me if I called you`
`22:37.09`	`docelmo`	`t-minus 2 weeks till astricon!`
`22:37.43`	`anon_WHISKING`	`it's a Johnnie Walker produced by Digium.`
`22:37.44`	`anon_WHISKING`	`haha`
`22:39.37`	`anon_WHISKING`	`Winston Churchill his favorite drink was Black Label`
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`22:50.18`	`pabluss`	`Hi again, there is some tutorial for to define extensions.conf?, because i have a doubt respecto to define internal outbound calls for some SIP users ...., my configuration is http://pastebin.ca/194220`
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`22:57.03`	`tzafrir_home`	`pabluss, for starters, http://voip-info.org/`
`22:58.59`	`pabluss`	`ok ..`
`22:59.14`	`pabluss`	`I got it`
`22:59.21`	`pabluss`	`but nothing yet..`
`22:59.23`	`pabluss`	`:(`
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`23:06.26`	`pabluss`	`howto debug extsions match in asterisk console?`
`23:06.35`	`pabluss`	`howto debug extensions match in asterisk console?`
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`23:20.40`	`Optic`	`moo moo`
`23:25.45`	`tzafrir_home`	`aptitude moo`
`23:26.08`	`tzafrir_home`	`pabluss, set verbose 3`
`23:26.18`	`tzafrir_home`	`now you'll see a trace of where you are`
`23:26.24`	`pabluss`	`ok`
`23:26.37`	`pabluss`	`i'm interesting for to see extensions match`
`23:26.41`	`pabluss`	`thanks ;)`
`23:27.08`	`tzafrir_home`	`take a look at show dialplan <contextname>`
`23:27.17`	`tzafrir_home`	`(use tab completion)`
`23:27.56`	`tzafrir_home`	`anything from a pattern has a lower priority`
`23:28.10`	`pabluss`	`ok`
`23:28.34`	`pabluss`	`what means default context in a dialplan?`
`23:28.39`	`pabluss`	`because the book`
`23:28.57`	`pabluss`	`there isn't any information about this`
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`23:31.24`	`pabluss`	`hmmm my problem is i want one sip user can make outboun calls the rest nones`
`23:36.19`	`Mavvie`	`pabluss: give the one which is allowed a different context in the sip.conf.`
`23:36.52`	`pabluss`	`only sip.conf?`
`23:37.10`	`pabluss`	`the book there's example in extensions.conf`
`23:37.16`	`pabluss`	`for example`
`23:37.26`	`pabluss`	`i have defined ivan sip user`
`23:37.42`	`pabluss`	`how to give him the outbound call ?`
`23:38.05`	`Mavvie`	`pabluss: the context defines which dial-rules are available in the dialplan`
`23:38.29`	`Mavvie`	`so if you have a context [from-sip], and a [from-sip-but-allowed-out], then you can give them different rules.`
`23:38.37`	`pabluss`	`ok`
`23:38.55`	`pabluss`	`what's your opinion about my extension.conf file --> http://pastebin.ca/194220`
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`23:39.35`	`Mavvie`	`beautiful!`
`23:40.01`	`pabluss`	`ok.. :D`
`23:40.08`	`pabluss`	`hmm`
`23:40.10`	`pabluss`	`sip.conf`
`23:40.13`	`pabluss`	`hmmm`
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`23:44.17`	`pabluss`	`ok solve...`
`23:44.31`	`pabluss`	`in sip.conf for some users i need to define the context`
`23:44.34`	`pabluss`	`yap`
`23:44.38`	`pabluss`	`gracias..`
`23:44.39`	`pabluss`	`:D`
`23:44.50`	`Mavvie`	`my pleasure`
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`23:55.21`	`tzafrir_home`	`the context in sip.conf is where in the dialplan the sip user will start (at which context)`
`23:58.02`	`ShipHead`	`What's everybody's favorite SIP service provider?`

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