irclog2html for #asterisk on 20061226

`00:00.50`	`lenne_dk`	`Oh, I just remembered: I set up a user on the remote * with the same name as the username of my local phone, and the phonenumber of my local *`
`00:01.04`	`lenne_dk`	`Now I can call. But I get no voice...`
`00:04.34`	`*** join/#asterisk bkruse_home (n=kruz@24.96.146.217)`
`00:05.20`	`bkruse_home`	`russellb: everything is going good`
`00:05.20`	`bkruse_home`	`:d`
`00:05.25`	`bkruse_home`	`:D`
`00:06.26`	`lenne_dk`	`What's wrong with this: exten => t,2,gotoif($[${timeout_cnt}<3]?s,tidsvalg)`
`00:06.50`	`bkruse_home`	`i believe its a :`
`00:06.53`	`bkruse_home`	`not a`
`00:06.53`	`bkruse_home`	`,`
`00:08.12`	`bkruse_home`	`lenne_dk: GotoIf(condition?label1[:label2])`
`00:08.28`	`bkruse_home`	`lenne_dk:`
`00:08.28`	`bkruse_home`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:08.47`	`*** part/#asterisk _dreams_ (n=dreams@108.Red-80-33-3.staticIP.rima-tde.net)`
`00:08.49`	`bkruse_home`	`lenne_dk: exten => t,2,gotoif($[${timeout_cnt}<3]?s:tidsvalg)`
`00:08.52`	`bkruse_home`	`try that`
`00:09.18`	`lenne_dk`	`Looking at the log, it's rather this, which unsets timeout_cnt: exten => t,1,Set(timeout_cnt=${${timeout_cnt}+1})`
`00:09.48`	`bkruse_home`	`lenne_dk: your go to statement was formed incorrectly`
`00:10.06`	`RahaiL`	`any one used m0n0`
`00:10.09`	`RahaiL`	`ops wrong channel`
`00:10.12`	`lenne_dk`	`earlier I do exten => s,n,Set(timeout_cnt=1)`
`00:10.19`	`bkruse_home`	`and?`
`00:10.30`	`bkruse_home`	`theres 2 kinds of sets`
`00:10.48`	`bkruse_home`	`set(foo=${var}) and set (${var}=foo)`
`00:11.21`	`lenne_dk`	`My increment of timeout_cnt doesn't seem to work.`
`00:11.55`	`bkruse_home`	`lenne_dk: set(${timeout_cnt}=1)`
`00:12.41`	`lenne_dk`	`What's the difference between the two sets?`
`00:14.06`	`bkruse_home`	`one uses the .read function and one uses the .write function`
`00:14.06`	`bkruse_home`	`like`
`00:14.19`	`lenne_dk`	`set(foo=bar} gives the variable foo the litteral value bar?`
`00:14.29`	`bkruse_home`	`well`
`00:14.49`	`bkruse_home`	`hold up let me link you to the page i read that helped me so much`
`00:15.15`	`bkruse_home`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+Set`
`00:15.20`	`bkruse_home`	`here it explains the difference`
`00:15.20`	`bkruse_home`	`D:`
`00:15.22`	`bkruse_home`	`:D`
`00:15.44`	`lenne_dk`	`Then I would believe that set(${foo}=2) sets bar=2, because foo contains the string bar?`
`00:16.29`	`bkruse_home`	`experiment and see`
`00:16.35`	`bkruse_home`	`if you give me a minute ill check it`
`00:16.38`	`bkruse_home`	`but`
`00:16.46`	`bkruse_home`	`wait, let me try ;]`
`00:21.14`	`bkruse_home`	`lenne_dk: if you set foo=bar`
`00:21.18`	`bkruse_home`	`then i would assume if you set`
`00:21.41`	`bkruse_home`	`set(anothervar=${foo}) anothervar would equal bar`
`00:21.44`	`bkruse_home`	`im almost positive`
`00:21.57`	`*** join/#asterisk a1fa (n=a1fa@unaffiliated/a1fa)`
`00:22.07`	`a1fa`	`hi`
`00:23.00`	`lenne_dk`	`Sorry, I found the bug. Set(timeout_cnt=${${timeout_cnt}+1}) should be Set(timeout_cnt=$[${timeout_cnt}+1])`
`00:23.16`	`a1fa`	`i just installed 1.4.0`
`00:23.35`	`lenne_dk`	`The math should be contained in $[], not ${}`
`00:23.50`	`RahaiL`	`got question`
`00:24.10`	`a1fa`	`it looks good`
`00:24.46`	`RahaiL`	`If i am using Dundi and my server B goes down Can My user on Server B make call throw Server A`
`00:24.50`	`bkruse_home`	`lenne_dk: i dont think its a bug, let me see`
`00:25.15`	`lenne_dk`	`No, I mean I made a bug in my dialplan`
`00:25.22`	`bkruse_home`	`lenne_dk: oh i gotcha`
`00:25.28`	`bkruse_home`	`oh ya!`
`00:25.30`	`bkruse_home`	`i see that now`
`00:25.39`	`bkruse_home`	`it was looking for the variable {${timeout_cnt}+1}`
`00:25.40`	`bkruse_home`	`lol`
`00:27.25`	`Dovid`	`is there any restrictions as to how many entries i put in to a polycom 601's contact list ?`
`00:29.39`	`bkruse_home`	`Dovid: 601? im not sure.....i would imagine ,hardware wise, yes`
`00:29.41`	`a1fa`	`pitch changer is broken in 1.4.0`
`00:29.44`	`bkruse_home`	`the 601's are tight`
`00:29.47`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: really??`
`00:29.55`	`bkruse_home`	`write a patch`
`00:29.56`	`bkruse_home`	`:d`
`00:29.57`	`bkruse_home`	`:D`
`00:30.07`	`a1fa`	`hhahah`
`00:30.08`	`a1fa`	`sure`
`00:30.13`	`a1fa`	`let me wipe my ass first`
`00:30.32`	`bkruse_home`	`:P`
`00:30.41`	`bkruse_home`	`ill work on it with ya if you want`
`00:30.45`	`bkruse_home`	`should be a simple fix i imagine`
`00:30.47`	`a1fa`	`my .c skill is still at highschool level`
`00:30.54`	`a1fa`	`for and while ;)`
`00:30.59`	`a1fa`	`and printf`
`00:33.03`	`a1fa`	`i sent an email to the guy`
`00:33.16`	`*** part/#asterisk Pete__ (n=pete@nock.demon.co.uk)`
`00:34.39`	`a1fa`	`The 'extensions reload' command is deprecated and will be removed in a future release. Please use 'dialplan reload' instead.`
`00:34.41`	`a1fa`	`hahahah`
`00:34.46`	`dlynes_laptop`	`wtf?`
`00:35.48`	`a1fa`	`* 1.4.0`
`00:36.25`	`qdk`	`a1fa: and the funny part?`
`00:36.31`	`*** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@ti211210a080-3318.bb.online.no)`
`00:36.53`	`a1fa`	`i liked extensions reload`
`00:36.59`	`a1fa`	`now i have to get used to dialplan reload`
`00:37.08`	`Dovid`	`bkruse_home: for some reason its not working`
`00:37.11`	`Dovid`	`xml looks fine`
`00:38.01`	`qdk`	`a1fa: and the funny part?`
`00:38.02`	`lenne_dk`	`Divide and conquer, Dovid. Make it small, see if it works.`
`00:38.30`	`lenne_dk`	`if it does, make it larger until it breaks`
`00:39.03`	`a1fa`	`ok`
`00:39.16`	`a1fa`	`serious problems with my dialplan`
`00:39.21`	`bkruse_home`	`dialplan reload`
`00:39.36`	`bkruse_home`	`Dovid: what do you mean?`
`00:39.42`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: i know, i <3 extensions reload`
`00:39.50`	`bkruse_home`	`because you could type e then <tab><tab>`
`00:40.25`	`*** join/#asterisk h0 (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir)`
`00:41.23`	`a1fa`	`ok.. looks like Set has changed as well in 1.4.0`
`00:41.55`	`lenne_dk`	`core set`
`00:43.05`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: how so`
`00:43.15`	`bkruse_home`	`core set show list channels no debug *`
`00:43.22`	`bkruse_home`	`:P`
`00:43.28`	`a1fa`	`hold`
`00:44.07`	`a1fa`	`i am about to pastebin it`
`00:44.27`	`a1fa`	`http://pastebin.ca/292002`
`00:44.33`	`Qwell`	`people had ample time to complain about the new syntax FYI`
`00:45.23`	`a1fa`	`this is not working`
`00:45.26`	`a1fa`	`with 1.4.0`
`00:45.56`	`lenne_dk`	`What does debug show?`
`00:46.09`	`Qwell`	`a1fa: looks just fine`
`00:47.17`	`a1fa`	`it doesnt work`
`00:47.23`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell: i agree.........`
`00:47.34`	`a1fa`	`it just repeats over and over`
`00:47.40`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell: and its good we got the new naming convetion before future releases while its relatively small`
`00:47.43`	`a1fa`	`it never goes to t,1`
`00:47.48`	`a1fa`	`when LOOPCOUNT=3`
`00:48.13`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: just for kicks try`
`00:48.19`	`bkruse_home`	`>2]?t:1)`
`00:48.27`	`a1fa`	`The 'sip no debug' command is deprecated and will be removed in a future release. Please use 'sip set debug off' instead.`
`00:48.27`	`bkruse_home`	`instead of >2]?t,1)`
`00:48.29`	`bkruse_home`	`just got kicks ;]`
`00:48.35`	`a1fa`	`ok`
`00:48.44`	`a1fa`	`but goto works`
`00:49.43`	`bkruse_home`	`hmm`
`00:49.52`	`bkruse_home`	`we need to make a dialplan function for a ++ type action`
`00:50.01`	`a1fa`	`nopne`
`00:50.03`	`bkruse_home`	`set ${LOOPCOUNT}++`
`00:50.05`	`bkruse_home`	`lol`
`00:50.13`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: let me see here........`
`00:50.24`	`bkruse_home`	`that should work`
`00:50.26`	`a1fa`	`l`
`00:50.26`	`a1fa`	`\\\`
`00:50.26`	`a1fa`	`pp;;`
`00:50.26`	`a1fa`	`;`
`00:50.26`	`a1fa`	`;;`
`00:50.28`	`a1fa`	`;`
`00:50.30`	`a1fa`	`wow`
`00:50.32`	`a1fa`	`SERIOUS PROBLEMS`
`00:50.36`	`a1fa`	`that t:1`
`00:50.43`	`a1fa`	`is actually making the whole box unresponsive`
`00:50.52`	`RoyK`	`Gleðileg jól!`
`00:51.04`	`a1fa`	`everytime i would hit it at that t:1 the box would go insane`
`00:51.21`	`bkruse_home`	`hmmm`
`00:51.28`	`bkruse_home`	`thats the way it should be`
`00:51.37`	`a1fa`	`t:!?`
`00:51.39`	`a1fa`	`t:1?`
`00:52.06`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: try putting quotes around ur var and quotes around your number`
`00:52.07`	`a1fa`	`"t:1" would make the box go boom`
`00:52.12`	`bkruse_home`	`ok`
`00:52.12`	`bkruse_home`	`and then t,1`
`00:53.16`	`*** join/#asterisk Gamentine (i=WinNT@S0106000d61588a55.cg.shawcable.net)`
`00:53.51`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: it work?`
`00:54.05`	`a1fa`	`[Dec 25 18:53:35] WARNING[5015]: ast_expr2.fl:398 ast_yyerror: ast_yyerror(): syntax error: syntax error, unexpected '+', expecting $end; Input:`
`00:54.21`	`a1fa`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:54.26`	`bkruse_home`	`i know you did it wrong`
`00:54.33`	`bkruse_home`	`go ahead and send me the exten you got now`
`00:54.38`	`bkruse_home`	`let me see if we can parse it out ;]`
`00:54.48`	`a1fa`	`heh`
`00:55.35`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: try it`
`00:55.53`	`a1fa`	`try what`
`00:56.01`	`bkruse_home`	`lol`
`00:56.04`	`bkruse_home`	`give me what you got`
`00:56.05`	`bkruse_home`	`:]`
`00:56.28`	`a1fa`	`nah :)`
`00:56.34`	`a1fa`	`i cant..`
`00:56.36`	`bkruse_home`	`?`
`00:56.39`	`a1fa`	`too much stuff`
`00:56.41`	`bkruse_home`	`just copy and paste the extension`
`00:56.44`	`bkruse_home`	`just that one`
`00:56.44`	`a1fa`	`to give you`
`00:56.47`	`a1fa`	`ok`
`00:56.47`	`bkruse_home`	`that one line`
`00:56.49`	`bkruse_home`	`lol`
`00:56.59`	`a1fa`	`200,Dial(SIP/200)`
`00:57.02`	`bkruse_home`	`noon`
`00:57.03`	`a1fa`	`there`
`00:57.03`	`bkruse_home`	`no`
`00:57.06`	`a1fa`	`;P`
`00:57.06`	`bkruse_home`	`just the exten part`
`00:57.17`	`bkruse_home`	`gotoif*`
`00:57.21`	`a1fa`	`ok`
`00:57.25`	`a1fa`	`thats fine`
`00:57.49`	`matt_`	`200,1,Dial(SIP/200)`
`00:58.03`	`a1fa`	`exten => t,1,Dial(SIP/200)`
`00:58.18`	`bkruse_home`	`........................`
`00:58.24`	`a1fa`	`well, we know what the error is`
`00:58.24`	`bkruse_home`	`give me the gotoif line`
`00:58.27`	`a1fa`	`it doesnt like +`
`00:58.29`	`bkruse_home`	`i know`
`00:58.35`	`bkruse_home`	`give me the gotoif line that you have now`
`00:58.38`	`a1fa`	`exten => i,2,GotoIf($[${LOOPCOUNT} > 2]?t,1)`
`00:58.40`	`bkruse_home`	`there`
`00:58.51`	`a1fa`	`exten => t,1,Dial(SIP/200)`
`00:58.53`	`bkruse_home`	`k`
`00:58.55`	`bkruse_home`	`and the set line?`
`00:59.10`	`bkruse_home`	`TRY`
`00:59.11`	`bkruse_home`	`set`
`00:59.13`	`a1fa`	`exten => i,1,Set(LOOPCOUNT=$[${LOOPCOUNT} + 1])`
`00:59.17`	`bkruse_home`	`k`
`00:59.19`	`bkruse_home`	`try this`
`00:59.26`	`lenne_dk`	`exten => 770,1,set(t=0)`
`00:59.26`	`lenne_dk`	`exten => 770,2,saynumber(${t})`
`00:59.26`	`lenne_dk`	`exten => 770,n,set(t=$[${t} + 1])`
`00:59.26`	`lenne_dk`	`exten => 770,n,gotoif($[${t} < 10]?2)`
`01:00.11`	`a1fa`	`try that`
`01:00.23`	`*** join/#asterisk stkn_ (i=nobody@gentoo/developer/pdpc.active.stkn)`
`01:00.24`	`RoyK`	`is there anyone in here that knows if asterisk 1.4 is stable for production use?`
`01:00.43`	`bkruse_home`	`RoyK: well......asterisk 1.4 has been released`
`01:00.51`	`bkruse_home`	`but i gues its up to u`
`01:01.00`	`bkruse_home`	`lenne_dk: and that works?`
`01:01.04`	`RoyK`	`meaning "DO NOT USE IT"`
`01:01.07`	`lenne_dk`	`Yep`
`01:01.22`	`bkruse_home`	`set(LOOPCOUNT=$[${LOOPCOUNT} + 1]`
`01:01.27`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: try that`
`01:01.37`	`bkruse_home`	`RoyK: nah, i love it!!`
`01:01.38`	`lenne_dk`	`Missing ")"`
`01:01.43`	`a1fa`	`instead of set`
`01:01.55`	`RoyK`	`bkruse_home: imho releasing something should somehow guarantee it should be stable`
`01:01.58`	`bkruse_home`	`k sry ;]`
`01:02.01`	`bkruse_home`	`set(${LOOPCOUNT}=$[${LOOPCOUNT} + 1])`
`01:02.01`	`bkruse_home`	`thanks`
`01:02.13`	`RoyK`	`bkruse_home: no. wrong syntax`
`01:02.21`	`bkruse_home`	`RoyK: read again`
`01:02.27`	`RoyK`	`set(LOOPCOUNT=$[${LOOPCOUNT} + 1])`
`01:02.31`	`bkruse_home`	`we have released 1.4 so its up to you`
`01:02.44`	`bkruse_home`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:02.45`	`bkruse_home`	`+`
`01:02.46`	`bkruse_home`	`)`
`01:02.48`	`bkruse_home`	`=`
`01:02.49`	`bkruse_home`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:03.01`	`bkruse_home`	`its not hard to figure out, i was just going for theory...................`
`01:03.18`	`RoyK`	`don't give people false advice`
`01:03.28`	`RoyK`	`don't tell people to upgrade to 1.4`
`01:03.34`	`bkruse_home`	`RoyK: 1.4 rocks`
`01:03.38`	`RoyK`	`don't play people to play russian rullette`
`01:03.48`	`bkruse_home`	`just beacuse you havent adapted to the syntax doesnt mean its bad.`
`01:04.02`	`RoyK`	`it's not been tested in volume`
`01:04.03`	`bkruse_home`	`and just because it came out doesnt mean you want to throw it into production before you learn it either`
`01:04.09`	`RoyK`	`it's just been played with`
`01:04.11`	`bkruse_home`	`RoyK: i have tested it in volume :]`
`01:04.17`	`RoyK`	`of course not`
`01:04.21`	`RoyK`	`I'm not that mad`
`01:04.36`	`bkruse_home`	`RoyK: you are not making any sense.`
`01:04.36`	`RoyK`	`I'm converting to openpbx, because the production line there is far more sane`
`01:04.48`	`a1fa`	`this is still not working`
`01:04.57`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: hmmm ima try to take a look at it`
`01:05.03`	`bkruse_home`	`i gota learn more abouot it anyways :d`
`01:05.05`	`bkruse_home`	`:D*`
`01:05.11`	`lenne_dk`	`Depends if you wants something that rocks or something that is stable :-) I'd rather have the foundation stable than rocking...`
`01:05.14`	`RoyK`	`bkruse_home: tell me, how long have you known asterisk as a project, and for how long have you been using it?`
`01:05.35`	`bkruse_home`	`hmm`
`01:05.41`	`bkruse_home`	`little over 2 years?`
`01:05.56`	`bkruse_home`	`and why does it matter`
`01:06.08`	`bkruse_home`	`im not trying to convert you, im just saying its what i like, i can do whatever i want with it`
`01:06.11`	`lenne_dk`	`a1fa, try my counting extension.`
`01:06.13`	`bkruse_home`	`i cannot ask for anything more ;]`
`01:06.21`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: ya, lenne_dk's looks great`
`01:06.22`	`RoyK`	`bkruse_home: it matters indeed. I've been running this for som five years, and I know the production line is like iranian politics`
`01:06.31`	`bkruse_home`	`just try to copy and paste and make sure that works`
`01:06.36`	`a1fa`	`lenne_dk : i know.. i tried yours`
`01:06.41`	`a1fa`	`lenne_dk : yours is no different then my`
`01:06.52`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: and his worked/didnt work?`
`01:06.53`	`a1fa`	`except you had`
`01:06.57`	`lenne_dk`	`So where does yours break?`
`01:07.00`	`a1fa`	`Set T=0`
`01:07.11`	`a1fa`	`i dont know`
`01:07.13`	`lenne_dk`	`There you go :-)`
`01:07.14`	`bkruse_home`	`well you do have to initialize the variable.........`
`01:07.19`	`RoyK`	`bkruse_home: ok. so what do you care about? Just Asterisk Winning A Gold Medal For Being A Famous Crappy PBX?`
`01:07.25`	`bkruse_home`	`or else LOOPCOUNT doesnt exists :D`
`01:07.30`	`a1fa`	`ok`
`01:07.31`	`bkruse_home`	`(good catch lenne_dk)`
`01:07.33`	`a1fa`	`interesting`
`01:07.53`	`bkruse_home`	`RoyK: i just love asterisk, i am smart enough to do anything i want with it, or rather, ask the right questions`
`01:08.14`	`bkruse_home`	`RoyK: if you dont like it why are you flaming in here???? just trying to inflate your e-penis`
`01:08.19`	`bkruse_home`	`pretty childish if you ask me.`
`01:08.24`	`RoyK`	`bkruse_home: you're also smart enought to advice people with falsous syntax :)`
`01:08.26`	`lenne_dk`	`a1fa: assume the expressions is processsed by substituting.`
`01:08.37`	`bkruse_home`	`RoyK: its called theory, i was proving a point`
`01:08.47`	`bkruse_home`	`and trying to help someone`
`01:08.49`	`bkruse_home`	`more than you can say`
`01:09.02`	`bkruse_home`	`jbot: lenne_dk++`
`01:09.03`	`bkruse_home`	`;]`
`01:09.08`	`bkruse_home`	`~karma lenne_dk`
`01:09.08`	`jbot`	`lenne_dk has karma of 1`
`01:09.12`	`bkruse_home`	`:D`
`01:09.13`	`RoyK`	`bkruse_home: giving them falsous examples rarely help them`
`01:09.20`	`bkruse_home`	`RoyK: i was walking it through`
`01:09.25`	`lenne_dk`	`so "$X + 1" becomes " + 1" if X is not defined.`
`01:09.26`	`a1fa`	`i think i fixed it`
`01:09.36`	`bkruse_home`	`and i also caught it right after i typed it after lenne_dk caught it.......and look.......now its almost done`
`01:09.44`	`bkruse_home`	`now who is your pointless flaming helping?`
`01:09.49`	`lenne_dk`	`Strangely set (foo= +1) is not valid`
`01:09.49`	`RoyK`	`lenne_dk: start by setting X=0`
`01:09.53`	`bkruse_home`	`lenne_dk: exactly`
`01:10.03`	`bkruse_home`	`RoyK: lenne_dk already has it......`
`01:10.10`	`bkruse_home`	`thats for the pointless comment, gg`
`01:10.16`	`Dovid`	`trying to use send text to send text to a polycom screen but it isnt working`
`01:10.21`	`Dovid`	`also i wana send it to a diffrent one`
`01:10.24`	`Dovid`	`any ideas ?`
`01:10.49`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: did it work after you set LOOPCOUNT=0 ?`
`01:11.02`	`a1fa`	`i allready had loopcount defined to 0`
`01:11.44`	`a1fa`	`for some reason that goto at the end keeps going to a line above setloopcoint =0`
`01:11.52`	`a1fa`	`i am going to fix that`
`01:11.53`	`a1fa`	`brb`
`01:11.59`	`bkruse_home`	`hm`
`01:11.59`	`bkruse_home`	`k`
`01:12.20`	`lenne_dk`	`I tried set(X = +1)`
`01:12.35`	`lenne_dk`	`X got the value "+1"`
`01:13.15`	`lenne_dk`	`${X} + 1 then becomes +1 + 1, which asterisk doesn't like. Too bad...`
`01:13.21`	`lenne_dk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:13.22`	`lenne_dk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:13.44`	`bkruse_home`	`lenne_dk: literal strings? either "" or ''?`
`01:13.46`	`bkruse_home`	`just a thought`
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`01:16.31`	`a1fa`	`its not incrementing`
`01:16.38`	`SwK`	`set is too stupid to understand spaces around the =`
`01:16.45`	`bkruse_home`	`oh1`
`01:16.48`	`bkruse_home`	`i bet ur right swk`
`01:17.36`	`SwK`	`i know I'm right I've bitched about that before`
`01:17.53`	`bkruse_home`	`RoyK: = super troller`
`01:17.59`	`bkruse_home`	`SwK it should......`
`01:17.59`	`SwK`	`set(CALLERID(num) = 1234567890) doesnt set callerid(num)`
`01:18.12`	`lenne_dk`	`More testing: set(X= -1) does set X = the negative number one`
`01:18.30`	`SwK`	`its creates a variable called "CALLERID(num) " to " 1234567890"`
`01:18.42`	`lenne_dk`	`but set(X= +1) set X = string "+1".`
`01:18.46`	`lenne_dk`	`Illogically...`
`01:19.07`	`bkruse_home`	`SwK eww, ima work on that, see if its possible to change it`
`01:19.17`	`RoyK`	`bkruse_home == dork`
`01:19.22`	`SwK`	`actually if you noop(-${X}-) after you do that I bet it returns - +1-`
`01:19.57`	`bkruse_home`	`bkruse_home: == knows how to at least sort of run a pbx`
`01:20.01`	`bkruse_home`	`more than you can say`
`01:20.09`	`RoyK`	`rotfl`
`01:20.18`	`bkruse_home`	`..........`
`01:20.19`	`a1fa`	`ok`
`01:20.21`	`a1fa`	`fucking bullshit`
`01:20.25`	`a1fa`	`its complainging about +`
`01:20.29`	`a1fa`	`and its fine`
`01:20.33`	`RoyK`	`bkruse_home: I'd love to see what sort of 20user setups you've done :)`
`01:20.39`	`a1fa`	`i also coppied lenne_dk's + and it worked fine`
`01:20.41`	`a1fa`	`i mean`
`01:20.42`	`bkruse_home`	`RoyK: it would blow your mind......`
`01:20.43`	`a1fa`	`it didnt work fine`
`01:20.48`	`a1fa`	`it complained about it too`
`01:20.51`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: what version?`
`01:20.57`	`bkruse_home`	`your not ready for that`
`01:21.09`	`RoyK`	`~debugging`
`01:21.11`	`jbot`	`if debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.`
`01:21.26`	`lenne_dk`	`SwK: exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,1,Set(CALLERID(all)=Joe Smith<2095551212>)`
`01:21.37`	`lenne_dk`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Setting+Callerid`
`01:21.45`	`SwK`	`leand_dk I am talking about with SPACES AROUND THE DAMNED = sign`
`01:21.54`	`a1fa`	`1.4.0`
`01:21.56`	`bkruse_home`	`swk there might be a reason for it`
`01:22.05`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: if your sure theres a reason, submit a bug report`
`01:22.19`	`a1fa`	`grrr`
`01:22.25`	`a1fa`	`http://pastebin.ca/292002`
`01:22.31`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: do you have ssh? ill give it a shot`
`01:22.34`	`a1fa`	`there is nothing wrong with that`
`01:22.35`	`SwK`	`bkruse_home yeah there is a reason its caleld lazy coders and I have brought it up before and I ws told to deal with it`
`01:22.59`	`Mavvie`	`oh oh... how again did I move from branch/1.2 to branch/1.2 with svn ?`
`01:23.01`	`Qwell`	`a1fa: You're never setting LOOPCOUNT to 0`
`01:23.08`	`bkruse_home`	`SwK: well they are really busy`
`01:23.09`	`Qwell`	`Mavvie: eh?`
`01:23.22`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell: can we do anything about trollers?`
`01:23.24`	`SwK`	`bkruse_home yes and so am I so I deal with it`
`01:23.31`	`RoyK`	`~segfault`
`01:23.32`	`jbot`	`i heard segfault is what asterisk does when it's not given the correct configuration! redo your config!`
`01:23.39`	`a1fa`	`Qwell[] i am`
`01:23.43`	`SwK`	`bkruse_home yeah I'm just a troll ask qwell he'll tell you thats all I do is troll`
`01:24.08`	`bkruse_home`	`SwK: i can try to fix that :X`
`01:24.09`	`lenne_dk`	`a1fa, what's wrong now?`
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`01:25.46`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: can i ssh?`
`01:26.01`	`a1fa`	`no`
`01:26.04`	`bkruse_home`	`k`
`01:26.11`	`a1fa`	`sorry :P`
`01:26.12`	`SomethingISODD`	`Hello has anyone figured a good resource to be able to send/receive fax with asterisk?`
`01:26.14`	`Qwell_`	`how quickly one app crashing can snowball and bring down everything else`
`01:26.32`	`Qwell_`	`well, a kernel module or two`
`01:26.34`	`a1fa`	`Qwell_: i have set loopcount=0 on the top of the call s,1`
`01:26.44`	`Qwell_`	`loopcount isn't the same as LOOPCOUNT`
`01:26.48`	`a1fa`	`LOOPCOUNT`
`01:26.49`	`a1fa`	`sorry`
`01:26.53`	`a1fa`	`i didnt feel liuke capsing`
`01:26.53`	`a1fa`	`it`
`01:26.59`	`Qwell_`	`and depending on how you're getting to i,1, it won't get pulled in`
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`01:27.08`	`Qwell_`	`so, i,1,NoOp(${LOOPCOUNT})`
`01:28.19`	`SwK`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:28.20`	`a1fa`	`what does that do`
`01:28.27`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`SwK: It's christmas :P`
`01:28.31`	`bkruse_home`	`:D`
`01:28.41`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`a1fa: it tells you if it's set, just do it`
`01:28.51`	`a1fa`	`its set to 0`
`01:28.52`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`so, yes`
`01:28.57`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`SwK: ^`
`01:29.19`	`a1fa`	`so`
`01:29.32`	`a1fa`	`this is making me sick`
`01:29.48`	`bkruse_home`	`jbot: Qwell[laptop]++`
`01:30.30`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell: see my PM?`
`01:30.33`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`no`
`01:30.35`	`lenne_dk`	`Quell: Case DOESN'T natter`
`01:30.38`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`it crashed xchat :P`
`01:30.43`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`lenne_dk: it most certainly does`
`01:30.50`	`a1fa`	`[Dec 25 19:30:36] WARNING[5274]: ast_expr2.fl:398 ast_yyerror: ast_yyerror(): syntax error: syntax error, unexpected '+', expecting $end; Input:`
`01:30.50`	`bkruse_home`	`:X`
`01:30.50`	`a1fa`	`+1`
`01:30.54`	`a1fa`	`that is the error`
`01:31.00`	`bkruse_home`	`a1fa: try without spaces/`
`01:31.01`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`Did you noop like I told you?`
`01:31.02`	`bkruse_home`	`?*`
`01:31.05`	`a1fa`	`i did`
`01:31.07`	`a1fa`	`yes`
`01:31.09`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`and?`
`01:31.12`	`a1fa`	`0`
`01:31.17`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`show me the line`
`01:31.20`	`lenne_dk`	`exten => 770,1,set(T= 4)`
`01:31.20`	`lenne_dk`	`exten => 770,2,saynumber(${t})`
`01:31.21`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`from the cli`
`01:31.23`	`lenne_dk`	`Starts at 4`
`01:31.26`	`a1fa`	`paste bin`
`01:31.49`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`no, I'm not looking at a pastebin right now`
`01:31.50`	`lenne_dk`	`Which bin?`
`01:32.01`	`a1fa`	`http://pastebin.ca/292020`
`01:32.37`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`I'm currently sitting in an OS installer, running irssi... pastebin isn't an option right now. show me the single noop line from the asterisk CLI`
`01:32.39`	`a1fa`	`noOp doesnt do anything`
`01:32.51`	`a1fa`	`exten => i,1,NoOp(${LOOPCOUNT})`
`01:33.06`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`and when asterisk executes it, it says?`
`01:33.13`	`a1fa`	`nothing`
`01:33.38`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`It says "nothing"?`
`01:33.43`	`a1fa`	`no.. no output`
`01:33.45`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`show me EXACTLY what it says`
`01:33.48`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`with verbose on`
`01:33.50`	`a1fa`	`ok`
`01:33.52`	`a1fa`	`hold on`
`01:35.02`	`a1fa`	`fucking shit`
`01:35.04`	`a1fa`	`it worked now`
`01:35.23`	`RoyK`	`can someone tell me if bkruse_home really works with digium of if he is just the witnit he seems to be?`
`01:35.40`	`a1fa`	`NoOp was increasing "0"`
`01:35.45`	`a1fa`	`"1" and then "2"`
`01:36.03`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`a1fa: So, what else did you change?`
`01:36.41`	`a1fa`	`nothing`
`01:36.47`	`a1fa`	`i turned verbosity off`
`01:36.49`	`a1fa`	`and it doesnt work now`
`01:37.19`	`a1fa`	`it only works if verbosity is set to 100`
`01:37.24`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`no, it doesn't`
`01:37.28`	`a1fa`	`yes it does`
`01:37.48`	`a1fa`	`i swear`
`01:37.52`	`a1fa`	`let me test one more time`
`01:38.13`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell[laptop]: that sounds a little far fetched, only with verbosity=100? hmm....`
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`01:38.47`	`a1fa`	`i figured out what the problem is`
`01:38.50`	`a1fa`	`hahhaa`
`01:38.57`	`a1fa`	`its not verbose...`
`01:39.11`	`a1fa`	`it never ended loading Set LOOPCOUNT`
`01:39.17`	`a1fa`	`because i never waited for it`
`01:39.22`	`a1fa`	`it has been fixed now`
`01:39.29`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`waited?`
`01:39.40`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`setting variables happens before it leaves the priority`
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`01:41.38`	`Qwell[laptop]`	`ping`
`01:41.44`	`Qwell`	`pong`
`01:41.56`	`lenne_dk`	`Quell: Do you ack that case doesn't matter on variables?`
`01:42.47`	`Qwell`	`I didn't say "on variables"`
`01:43.19`	`lenne_dk`	`you claimed loopcount != LOOPCOUNT`
`01:44.14`	`Qwell`	`yes, if he's reading ${LOOPCOUNT} he should be setting LOOPCOUNT and not loopcount`
`01:44.38`	`Qwell`	`whether it works that way now, doesn't much matter. it could easily change in the future...`
`01:45.03`	`a1fa`	`Background is what threw me off`
`01:45.18`	`a1fa`	`i was cutting corners.. and not even realising`
`01:45.25`	`a1fa`	`human error 101`
`01:45.54`	`lenne_dk`	`According to wiki:A variable name may be any alphanumeric string beginning with a letter. User-defined variable names are not case sensitive \emdash ${FOO} and ${Foo} refer to the same variable \emdash but Asterisk-defined variables are case-sensitive \emdash ${EXTEN} works, but ${exten} doesn't.`
`01:46.28`	`lenne_dk`	`ignore \emdash ...`
`01:46.38`	`Qwell`	`lenne_dk: I didn't add it. I'm certain the other developers didn't either. The wiki could say I was a goat, but it wouldn't be true. :)`
`01:46.50`	`Qwell`	`(well, maybe.. ;)`
`01:47.03`	`brookshire`	`baaaaaaaaaaa!`
`01:47.07`	`Qwell`	`brookshire: indeed!`
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`01:47.40`	`riddlebox`	`anyone have any grandstream phones?`
`01:47.44`	`lenne_dk`	`Use the source, Luke... It must be in there somewhere that variables indeed are case-insensitive.`
`01:48.00`	`Qwell`	`lenne_dk: sure, but I doubt it was fully intended`
`01:48.02`	`lenne_dk`	`Yes, I have a couple og BT101's`
`01:48.40`	`riddlebox`	`lenne_dk, you talking to me`
`01:49.22`	`a1fa`	`meehehehe`
`01:49.24`	`a1fa`	`:P`
`01:49.26`	`a1fa`	`thanks guys`
`01:49.30`	`lenne_dk`	`Yeah, I'm talking to you, riddle. Sounds like a movie soundtrack---`
`01:49.34`	`a1fa`	`my dialplan works flawleslly`
`01:49.34`	`a1fa`	`now`
`01:49.51`	`riddlebox`	`lenne_dk, do you have them setup to intercom each other and page to each other?`
`01:50.32`	`lenne_dk`	`BT101's can't do that. Are you referring to the 2000's?`
`01:50.34`	`SwK`	`hah`
`01:50.39`	`SwK`	`hmmm foood`
`01:51.02`	`riddlebox`	`lenne_dk, yeah I a grandstream gxp2000 for xmas and I am trying to setup the intercom and page`
`01:51.22`	`riddlebox`	`I have done everything according to the pdf file on the site and it doesnt seem to work`
`01:51.34`	`riddlebox`	`even to get the blf's working`
`01:52.20`	`lenne_dk`	`Can't help you there, riddler`
`01:53.03`	`riddlebox`	`dang, I can most things, but those and I wanted to get them working to show our office so maybe we can start selling asterisk systems`
`01:55.28`	`lenne_dk`	`Riddlebox: Have you then tried the GrandStream gateways? GXW Analog Gateway Series`
`01:55.44`	`lenne_dk`	`I'm waitning for one...`
`01:55.59`	`riddlebox`	`I have seen them a little`
`01:56.50`	`riddlebox`	`I know some people really dislike grandstream, but I dont see a problem with it so far`
`01:56.59`	`lenne_dk`	`easy to setup? Interfacing incoming lines to *`
`01:57.15`	`riddlebox`	`yeah, mine was so far`
`01:57.35`	`a1fa`	`i have 3 gt devices.. 2 broke.. 1 broke a month after, 2nd one broke 6months after`
`01:57.37`	`riddlebox`	`I wonder if the blf stuff and the paging only work if you have all grandstream phones`
`01:57.44`	`a1fa`	`i am still waiting for 1 more to die`
`01:58.34`	`lenne_dk`	`I thing BLF are a function of subscribing to hints. Nothing directly between phones.`
`02:01.18`	`riddlebox`	`yeah the have a pdf for asterisk that I followed but I am not getting it to work`
`02:06.20`	`lenne_dk`	`I can't get voice between two * using the same voip-provider. I can call, but no voice. No problems calling or geting calls from pstn on either system.`
`02:06.30`	`riddlebox`	`when I dial 523 which is the page code, sip debug shows 52`
`02:06.56`	`riddlebox`	`thats wierd, which provider?`
`02:07.05`	`lenne_dk`	`musimi.dk`
`02:07.12`	`riddlebox`	`ohh I use broadvoice`
`02:10.10`	`ThaZZa`	`riddlebox: I have a GXP2000 and i have had blf working, with non-Grandstream phones.`
`02:11.11`	`a1fa`	`blf?`
`02:11.14`	`riddlebox`	`I wonder what I am doing wrong then`
`02:11.18`	`riddlebox`	`busy lamp field`
`02:11.30`	`ThaZZa`	`riddlebox: What firmware you running?`
`02:11.51`	`ThaZZa`	`riddlebox: Also hope you are running 1.2 or above *`
`02:12.07`	`riddlebox`	`Software Version: Program-- 1.1.1.14 Bootloader-- 1.1.1.5`
`02:12.19`	`riddlebox`	`yeah 1.2.14`
`02:12.50`	`ThaZZa`	`riddlebox: I will seutup phone, brb.. updated it to a cisco phone, so it has been a month since last used.`
`02:13.03`	`riddlebox`	`ok thanks`
`02:14.04`	`riddlebox`	`the other thing I want to do is a call-pickup, where if a phone is ringing I get dial a code and answer it`
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`02:23.55`	`ThaZZa`	`riddlebox: Ok back.. just putting the config back in *`
`02:24.07`	`ThaZZa`	`riddlebox: rebooting phones now.`
`02:24.18`	`riddlebox`	`cool thanks`
`02:25.14`	`riddlebox`	`I got the BLF working, had a *5 in a prompts context, now I need the call-pickup working and the intercom`
`02:25.50`	`ThaZZa`	`riddlebox: lol.. i only ever tried to get the blf working. and it is working again.`
`02:26.32`	`riddlebox`	`yeah it shows something like this:`
`02:26.43`	`riddlebox`	`[BLF-Pickup]`
`02:27.24`	`riddlebox`	`exten => _**5XX,1,Pickup(${EXTEN:2})`
`02:27.38`	`riddlebox`	`exten => _**5XX,2,Hangup`
`02:28.35`	`ThaZZa`	`riddlebox: are you exten's 5XX?`
`02:28.38`	`riddlebox`	`yup`
`02:28.53`	`ThaZZa`	`riddlebox: i will have a play now`
`02:29.49`	`riddlebox`	`intercom and call pick-up are two huge things I would like to get going`
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`02:40.02`	`riddlebox`	`ThaZZa, there are two things on the phones that need to be set`
`02:40.13`	`riddlebox`	`Allow Auto Answer by Call-Info`
`02:40.15`	`ThaZZa`	`riddlebox: Yeahi know`
`02:40.28`	`riddlebox`	`Turn off Speaker on remote disconnect`
`02:40.49`	`lenne_dk`	`I finally gave up calling between two * with SIP. using IAX2 it works...`
`02:41.45`	`lenne_dk`	`will somebody try calling +45 36949617, using asterisk? It is an IVR, just tell me if you get voice.`
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`02:43.09`	`riddlebox`	`what is the +45?`
`02:43.28`	`lenne_dk`	`+ is international prefix 45 is denmark`
`02:43.29`	`Qwell`	`country code`
`02:43.52`	`lenne_dk`	`just a few seconds`
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`02:47.22`	`lenne_dk`	`Seems nobody will`
`02:47.55`	`riddlebox`	`I have to change the dialplan hold on a bit`
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`02:49.26`	`riddlebox`	`do I just dial 45 36949617 then?`
`02:50.04`	`lenne_dk`	`Aren't you supposed to dial 00 or somethinng to dial international?`
`02:50.20`	`lenne_dk`	`011?`
`02:50.23`	`riddlebox`	`I thought so but is it 045 then then number`
`02:51.07`	`lenne_dk`	`probably...`
`02:51.19`	`riddlebox`	`Qwell, you around?`
`02:51.29`	`Qwell`	`no`
`02:51.53`	`riddlebox`	`would I dial 045 to dial out to denmark?`
`02:52.54`	`Qwell`	`depends on where you are`
`02:53.03`	`Qwell`	`US is 001, then country code and number`
`02:53.04`	`riddlebox`	`in illinois`
`02:53.19`	`Qwell`	`so, 001-045-blah`
`02:53.27`	`riddlebox`	`ahh ok`
`02:53.41`	`lenne_dk`	`Rather 00145`
`02:53.50`	`Qwell`	`oh, sorry, not 045`
`02:54.24`	`lenne_dk`	`001 45 3694 9617`
`02:54.47`	`robl^`	`I thought US was 011 + country codew`
`02:55.06`	`denon`	`it is`
`02:55.46`	`riddlebox`	`I get the number you have dialed is not in service`
`02:56.25`	`denon`	`riddlebox: use 011. If you still have issues, dial 00 and ask them how to dial the number`
`02:56.33`	`denon`	`or ask for an international operator first`
`02:57.11`	`denon`	`Qwell: wha? it is 011 in the US ..`
`02:57.17`	`riddlebox`	`lenne_dk, I got someone talking kinda fast`
`02:57.17`	`denon`	`or is he not in the US?`
`02:57.20`	`Qwell`	`denon: yeah`
`02:57.33`	`Strom_M`	`Qwell, you don't know how to dial internationally?? gasp`
`02:58.15`	`lenne_dk`	`Some people from Us doesn't know where Europe is let alone how to dial it :-)`
`02:58.29`	`riddlebox`	`I have never had to dial europe`
`02:58.30`	`Qwell`	`Strom_C: preoccupied`
`02:58.37`	`Strom_M`	`ah, ok`
`02:58.45`	`denon`	`I never dial EU ..`
`02:58.48`	`denon`	`but I still know how`
`02:59.00`	`denon`	`so where's that leave me?`
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`03:01.55`	`lenne_dk`	`Anyway, thanks for letting me know that it works. I can go to bed now... 4Am here...`
`03:03.20`	`riddlebox`	`glad to help`
`03:03.33`	`robl^`	`I need a german DID to terminate in the US. ;-)`
`03:04.03`	`sudhir492`	`anyone using custom musiconhold here? I am getting the error: local_ast_moh_start: No class:Support`
`03:04.06`	`lenne_dk`	`Is the problem in connecting or getting the DID?`
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`03:04.20`	`robl^`	`getting.`
`03:04.31`	`sudhir492`	`I have restarted the asterisk, but still no luck`
`03:05.12`	`lenne_dk`	`robl: carpo.de, but you need a german snailmail adress.`
`03:05.32`	`robl^`	`lenne_dk: that's the problem`
`03:06.04`	`riddlebox`	`I wonder why asterisk is killing a call after 5 instead of allowing 5XX?`
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`03:11.53`	`robl^`	`hrmm.. MeetMe() works even with invalid conference numbers now?`
`03:23.29`	`bkruse_home`	`russellb: where are you!`
`03:23.30`	`bkruse_home`	`:D`
`03:23.58`	`file`	`he's off work for awhile, until like January sometime!`
`03:24.22`	`robl^`	`sure.. release 1.4 then run away! ;)`
`03:25.28`	`bkruse_home`	`lol`
`03:25.32`	`bkruse_home`	`file: hello :]`
`03:25.35`	`bkruse_home`	`jbot: file++`
`03:25.52`	`bkruse_home`	`noes!`
`03:25.55`	`bkruse_home`	`i have muffin recipes`
`03:25.56`	`bkruse_home`	`:d`
`03:25.57`	`bkruse_home`	`:D`
`03:26.16`	`file`	`bkruse_home: do we have tomorrow off?`
`03:26.26`	`bkruse_home`	`file: no`
`03:26.39`	`bkruse_home`	`file: i know some people that asked for it off, and their request was granted`
`03:26.39`	`bkruse_home`	`:d`
`03:27.19`	`bkruse_home`	`;[`
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`03:27.45`	`edgarin`	`Hi to all people`
`03:27.50`	`bkruse_home`	`edgarin: hello to you`
`03:28.06`	`edgarin`	`hi, I have a problem with my asterisk`
`03:28.12`	`robl^`	`either I am missing something.. or MeetMe is broken in 1.4. (prolly I am missing something).`
`03:28.13`	`edgarin`	`with the configuration of the music on hold`
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`03:29.09`	`edgarin`	`some people can help me?`
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`03:30.00`	`ESCulapio__`	`hola hablo espano quien necesite ayuda sobre h323 y/o conectando cisco call manager al asterisk`
`03:30.05`	`ESCulapio__`	`estoy disponible`
`03:30.18`	`bkruse_home`	`load module span_2_eng.so`
`03:30.25`	`edgarin`	`hola ESCulapio___`
`03:30.29`	`edgarin`	`como estas?`
`03:30.41`	`ESCulapio__`	`edgarin, hola`
`03:30.58`	`ESCulapio__`	`edgarin, bien`
`03:31.03`	`ESCulapio__`	`edgarin, gracias`
`03:31.03`	`edgarin`	`ESCulapio__, no se si tu me puedas ayudar pero tengo problemas con configurar mi asterisk y el music on hold`
`03:31.15`	`edgarin`	`ahh bueno, me alegro bastante!`
`03:32.09`	`ESCulapio__`	`edgarin, cual es el problem a`
`03:32.23`	`edgarin`	`te hablo en asterisk-es`
`03:34.04`	`ESCulapio__`	`mucho mejor`
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`03:38.05`	`bdunn`	`Is there a nice GUI tool to configure things like extensions.conf, etc.? I have been hand coding for a year on some things and I just don't have enough time (I run a business).`
`03:40.02`	`robl^`	`bdunn: there is an official one.. in development`
`03:41.05`	`sevard`	`hire me.`
`03:42.16`	`bkruse_home`	`bdunn: http://asterisknow.org`
`03:42.22`	`bkruse_home`	`or just asterisk-gui for more info`
`03:43.33`	`bdunn`	`Thanks. I saw that but it didn't load in my VM. Perhaps I can try it on real hardware and use it to configure my scripts and then transfer those to the real box?`
`03:44.03`	`bkruse_home`	`the VM is a lil buggy.....`
`03:44.13`	`bkruse_home`	`bdunn: that would work`
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`03:45.42`	`bdunn`	`Thanks guys.`
`03:46.39`	`bkruse_home`	`np ;]`
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`04:00.33`	`dorphalsig`	`hi`
`04:00.43`	`bkruse_home`	`dorphalsig: hello!`
`04:00.54`	`dorphalsig`	`Anybody has had any experience with the Quintum D3000 gateway?`
`04:01.05`	`dorphalsig`	`its supposed to host up to 32 Pri interfaces`
`04:01.25`	`dorphalsig`	`but I am not sure how to get it connected with asterisk`
`04:01.26`	`dorphalsig`	`:$`
`04:02.44`	`riddlebox`	`dorphalsig, I have worked with Quintum stuff but never got it to work with asterisk`
`04:03.11`	`dorphalsig`	`So basically its a pain in the ass?`
`04:03.17`	`riddlebox`	`do you have the tech support info? I think they will help you get it going`
`04:03.32`	`dorphalsig`	`I think its no longer supported`
`04:03.41`	`riddlebox`	`they told me I wouldnt have a problem getting the ASM400 working with asterisk and I couldnt even with their help`
`04:03.43`	`dorphalsig`	`I read somewhere the end of life statement for it`
`04:03.54`	`dorphalsig`	`ouch`
`04:05.12`	`dorphalsig`	`what did you do with the asm400 then?`
`04:08.36`	`riddlebox`	`we wanted to take an analog extension out of our system, and put it through the internet to another quintum box and provide the other end with dialtone from us`
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`04:08.37`	`w0xz`	`hello`
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`04:08.54`	`dorphalsig`	`:s`
`04:08.57`	`dorphalsig`	`oh well`
`04:09.00`	`dorphalsig`	`sigh`
`04:09.02`	`dorphalsig`	`thanx`
`04:09.05`	`dorphalsig`	`merry xmass`
`04:09.07`	`riddlebox`	`which they said we wouldnt need to do anything with our firewall and all this, when it came down to it we had to forward a ton of ports`
`04:09.21`	`dorphalsig`	`:s`
`04:09.34`	`dorphalsig`	`Guess that should divert me from buying the Tenor D3200`
`04:09.50`	`riddlebox`	`it maybe better now, they are doing a lot of work to it`
`04:09.52`	`dorphalsig`	`that I was going to use as an analog card :P`
`04:10.05`	`riddlebox`	`I can give you info to a quintum sales guy if you want`
`04:10.05`	`dorphalsig`	`since it has 32 spans`
`04:10.08`	`w0xz`	`i dont can make a call out over sipgate (my external sip provider) can anybody help me?`
`04:10.27`	`dorphalsig`	`I I was drooling over one I saw at ebay`
`04:10.31`	`dorphalsig`	`on $300`
`04:10.46`	`riddlebox`	`we kinda put the whole project on the back burner since we have a huge cabling job due at the end of the year now`
`04:10.47`	`dorphalsig`	`thought it might be an easy context redirection`
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`04:11.20`	`dorphalsig`	`but from your words I think I'm gonna run away`
`04:11.35`	`dorphalsig`	`and hide under my blanky ;)`
`04:11.56`	`riddlebox`	`like I said it maybe better now, after you upgrade the firmware`
`04:12.50`	`dorphalsig`	`I have to think on it`
`04:13.25`	`riddlebox`	`yeah I am unsure as well, they told us they would integrate with avaya stuff and it didnt do that well either`
`04:13.44`	`dorphalsig`	`300 bucks isnt exactly a ton of money, but it is not at all overlookable`
`04:14.24`	`dorphalsig`	`and it isnt nice having a 300 dollar rock to prevent your papers from flying away`
`04:15.39`	`dorphalsig`	`cya`
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`04:16.59`	`riddlebox`	`I just wish I could get the intercom and call-pickup working on this new phone`
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`04:18.39`	`ManxPower`	`If you think VoIP is frustrating, try doing some streaming media sometime.`
`04:19.09`	`ManxPower`	`riddlebox: what phone are you using?`
`04:19.46`	`riddlebox`	`ManxPower, Grandstream GXP2000`
`04:19.47`	`coppice`	`ManxPower: have you been doing some set-top box work? :-)`
`04:20.00`	`ManxPower`	`riddlebox: well if you buy crap.....`
`04:20.10`	`ManxPower`	`coppice: no, but Video on Demand stuff`
`04:20.12`	`*** join/#asterisk Administrator_ (n=Administ@190.38.146.38)`
`04:20.26`	`riddlebox`	`my girlfriend got it for me for xmas I didnt know she was getting it`
`04:20.58`	`Administrator_`	`how i can schedule an alarm or reminder with asterisk, if I want it to ring to wake me up.`
`04:20.59`	`ManxPower`	`Administrator_: see .call files. The Wiki might have something useful.`
`04:21.08`	`ManxPower`	`also sample.call in the asterisk source`
`04:21.08`	`coppice`	`ManxPower: the only IPTV system in the world with any success is the one in HK. That's only succesful because it is basically given away`
`04:21.34`	`riddlebox`	`Administrator, search google for wakeup.php + asterisk`
`04:22.05`	`ManxPower`	`coppice: I'll basically be giving it away. $30/month`
`04:22.57`	`coppice`	`I mean its really given away. Upgrade from 1.5M ADSL to 8M ADSL for a small fee, and they throw in IPTV`
`04:23.51`	`ManxPower`	`Ah.`
`04:24.36`	`coppice`	`they express it the other way around, but that's what it comes too. everyone else in the IPTV business looks to the HK system as a leading light :-)`
`04:26.03`	`bkruse_home`	`how can i make my variable global from the dialplan?`
`04:26.10`	`bkruse_home`	`im trying ENV(var) and GLOBAL(vaR)`
`04:26.17`	`Qwell`	`there is an option to Set`
`04:26.23`	`Qwell`	`\|g or something`
`04:26.27`	`bkruse_home`	`k thats all i need`
`04:26.31`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell thank you :D`
`04:26.48`	`coppice`	`I've never worked directly with that stuff, but everyone involved says its very hairy, and takes months of tweaking to get a system that doesn't fall apart`
`04:27.02`	`ManxPower`	`nod`
`04:27.18`	`bkruse_home`	`it is g`
`04:27.20`	`ManxPower`	`This will never have more than 50 subscribers`
`04:27.21`	`bkruse_home`	`nice Qwell!!`
`04:27.25`	`bkruse_home`	`jbot: Qwell++`
`04:27.26`	`bkruse_home`	`:]`
`04:27.35`	`Mavvie`	`yay. my "logger mute" option is now part of the base asterisk.`
`04:28.03`	`Mavvie`	`let's run this thing during the christmas break and we'll see how much it will break :-P`
`04:32.48`	`Mavvie`	`hmm... still has the half-open-channel issue.`
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`04:34.00`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell everything is going good, HEHEHE`
`04:34.06`	`DEader`	`hellow`
`04:34.20`	`DEader`	`can someone tell me how to check if agi is working`
`04:34.52`	`ManxPower`	`DEader: look at the Asterisk console.`
`04:34.54`	`DEader`	`i'm trying to install this call back script but i'm having no luck for 2 days now`
`04:35.02`	`Mavvie`	`DEader: perl?`
`04:35.05`	`DEader`	`yes`
`04:35.11`	`ManxPower`	`Best to start asterisk as "asterisk -cvvv" you will get more info then`
`04:35.17`	`Mavvie`	`DEader: see if it works on the command line: perl -wc script.pl`
`04:35.28`	`SwK`	`anyone wanna be a crashtest dummy for me?`
`04:35.41`	`SwK`	`msg me if you do`
`04:37.16`	`DEader`	`ok i started asterisk with -cvvv`
`04:37.25`	`DEader`	`now what should i do`
`04:37.39`	`DEader`	`what am i looking for`
`04:38.17`	`bkruse_home`	`:]`
`04:38.20`	`bkruse_home`	`fight it!`
`04:38.28`	`Igbothom_III`	`but not too hard`
`04:38.35`	`ManxPower`	`DEader: you should call the extension that runs the AGI`
`04:39.01`	`DEader`	`ok i did`
`04:39.10`	`DEader`	`i got a 484 error on the phone`
`04:39.20`	`Mavvie`	`DEader: pastebin it`
`04:39.39`	`Igbothom_III`	`Warney has his 700 wickets in test matches`
`04:40.03`	`ManxPower`	`DEader: that error has nothing to do with the AGI, you need to fix that error first`
`04:43.07`	`DEader`	`http://pastebin.com/844991`
`04:43.10`	`DEader`	`thats the pastebin`
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`04:43.48`	`Mavvie`	`wakeup.agi: Failed to execute '/var/lib/asterisk/agi-bin/wakeup.agi': No such file or directory`
`04:43.53`	`Mavvie`	`I wonder why yuo didn't spot that one.`
`04:45.31`	`DEader`	`hrm`
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`04:50.20`	`Strom_C`	`droops!`
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`04:53.58`	`droops`	`Strom!`
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`04:55.08`	`droops`	`im working on upgrading slast to 1.4.0`
`04:55.17`	`bkruse_home`	`:X`
`04:55.29`	`Strom_C`	`coo`
`04:55.30`	`Strom_C`	`l`
`04:56.08`	`droops`	`this is my first real computer time in a few days`
`04:56.50`	`Strom_C`	`been busy with the family?`
`04:57.38`	`droops`	`been working on the house getting ready for the baby`
`04:57.50`	`Strom_C`	`oh, that's right`
`04:57.59`	`Strom_C`	`when is the baby due?`
`04:58.10`	`droops`	`late jan / early feb`
`04:58.28`	`Strom_C`	`ooh, so there's a chance we may share the same birthday :D`
`04:58.56`	`droops`	`when is your bday`
`04:59.09`	`droops`	`my brothers and granfathers is the 1st of feb`
`04:59.14`	`Strom_C`	`21st january`
`05:00.20`	`droops`	`it might happen`
`05:00.27`	`droops`	`im jsut hoping for healthy`
`05:01.12`	`Strom_C`	`nod`
`05:01.20`	`Strom_C`	`probably nothing to worry about`
`05:02.17`	`droops`	`everythign seems to be fine`
`05:03.26`	`Strom_C`	`i've been teaching myself to spin records`
`05:05.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_C : Step 1 : plug in. Step 2 : play.`
`05:05.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:D`
`05:05.40`	`Strom_C`	`step 3: learn to beatmatch and mix and program and not fuck it all up`
`05:06.01`	`droops`	`i noticed your turntables`
`05:06.19`	`Strom_C`	`so you've been watching stromtv, eh?`
`05:06.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`next year I'm seriously looking to take guitar lessons.`
`05:06.50`	`droops`	`all night and day strom`
`05:07.00`	`Strom_C`	`heheh`
`05:07.09`	`Strom_C`	`do you want to hear the set I mixed this morning?`
`05:07.35`	`droops`	`email it to me, i dont have speakers here`
`05:07.55`	`Strom_C`	`it's forty megabytes`
`05:08.00`	`Strom_C`	`i'll URL you`
`05:08.11`	`droops`	`k`
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`05:08.39`	`infinity1`	`1.4.0 is OUT?`
`05:08.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_C : 40meg? eek, how long?!`
`05:08.55`	`Strom_C`	`no, we hid it`
`05:09.00`	`Strom_C`	`[TK]D-Fender: thirty-five minutes`
`05:09.32`	`droops`	`how long has it been out?`
`05:09.42`	`Strom_C`	`what, 1.4?`
`05:09.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I'll wait until 1.4 tree no longer breaks Polycom's before upgrading :)`
`05:09.56`	`infinity1`	`[TK]D-Fender: how does it break polycom?`
`05:10.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_C : got a more condensed sample?`
`05:10.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`infinity1 : presence, etc....`
`05:10.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`infinity1 : new peer structure apparently screws all sorts of stuff up.`
`05:10.31`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell: func_shell.sh lives and works!`
`05:10.37`	`droops`	`it appears to be out since the 23rd of december`
`05:10.45`	`Strom_C`	`[TK]D-Fender: what do you mean "more condensed"?`
`05:10.46`	`bkruse_home`	`its just you cannot store the var as more than one line, it only stores the last line of your output`
`05:10.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pisses me off since I was waiting until 1.4 official to ever touch it...`
`05:11.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_C : A shorter mix sample so we can get a feel for your work without listening for 3/4 of an hour :)`
`05:11.30`	`bkruse_home`	`hahaha`
`05:11.34`	`Strom_C`	`how does 13 minutes sound to you?`
`05:11.55`	`infinity1`	`[TK]D-Fender: well, 1.4.1 will be out very soon.`
`05:14.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_C : Manageable :)`
`05:14.34`	`Strom_C`	`[TK]D-Fender: http://www.stromcarlson.com/dj_strom/mix-2006-12-22-b.mp3`
`05:16.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_C : www.aocomputing.net/newguitarsolo.mp3`
`05:17.37`	`Strom_C`	`is this you playing?`
`05:17.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_C : Yup, just 3 minutes of me goofing off`
`05:18.02`	`Strom_C`	`cool!`
`05:18.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`this year I'm actually going to learn how to play :D`
`05:20.15`	`Strom_C`	`well you're already much better than I am`
`05:20.25`	`Strom_C`	`I own a guitar but have never gotten the hang of it`
`05:23.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_C : I'm working on a new recording of "I'm Alright" by Neil Zaza and will add you to the list of people I link to it once I'm done :)`
`05:23.18`	`Strom_C`	`cool`
`05:27.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_C : Inspiration for my taking lessons : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xjJXT0C0X4`
`05:27.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"sweeping" is where he does the god-awefully fast stuff that just sounds gorgeous.`
`05:29.18`	`Strom_C`	`this kicks ass`
`05:29.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`just wait :)`
`05:30.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`1:40, 2:28 - 3:00`
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`05:34.03`	`Strom_C`	`that was awesome`
`05:34.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`isn't it though?`
`05:36.26`	`bkruse_home`	`jbot: file++`
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`05:39.50`	`coppice`	`[TK]D-Fender: if you find that impressive try watching a really great pianist take Prokofiev's 3rd piano concerto as fast as they can to show off. fingers just were not made to move that fast :-)`
`05:40.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice : Rachmaninov is my fave (Chopin for easy-listening).`
`05:40.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice : And a sprinkling of Paganini (in the strings)`
`05:41.19`	`coppice`	`but those are pretty easy to play compared with Prokofiev's show off stuff`
`05:41.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice : Got to see a really rgeat outdoor show of the MSO (Montreal Symphony Orchestra, with Vitali Samoshka playing Rachmaninov's 3rd... true awesome`
`05:43.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice : listening now. Nice. Speed isn't everything though, and this is on par.`
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`05:44.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice : Actually feels a lot like R's 3rd :) Adding a perma-link.`
`05:44.48`	`coppice`	`I saw Michel Beroff perform Prokofiev's 3rd in Taiwan. He palyed the concerto, and for an encore played the fastest bit really fast. Quite amazing to watch his fingers go :-)`
`05:46.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice : I can imagine.... this is a challenging piece to say the least. Music... the 3rd great export of Russia, next to Vodka, and suicidal authors :D`
`05:48.05`	`coppice`	`when Vladimir Ashkenazy left Russia to live in the UK he had to learn lots of west european music for the first time, so he could make a living. there is so much good russian stuff he had never got around to learning anything else`
`05:50.52`	`coppice`	`its amazing how much russian literature gets taught in english literature courses. i never figured that one out`
`05:51.22`	`coppice`	`still, they teach shakespeare in russia`
`05:53.07`	`sudhir492`	`I keep getting the error res_musiconhold.c:900 local_ast_moh_start: No class: mymoh`
`05:53.55`	`sudhir492`	`where mymoh is defined as mode=files, directory and random=yes`
`06:00.06`	`brookshire`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT6YO30GhmQ`
`06:00.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sudhir492 : have you completely restarted *?`
`06:00.11`	`brookshire`	`hehe`
`06:00.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`brookshire : Oldie, but a goodie :)`
`06:01.08`	`sudhir492`	`D-Fender: Yes, I did restart many times`
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`06:01.23`	`brookshire`	`bkruse_home: !`
`06:01.33`	`bkruse_home`	`:D`
`06:01.46`	`FuriousGeorge`	`gasp`
`06:01.47`	`bkruse_home`	`brookshire: func_bkruse lives!`
`06:01.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sudhir492 :pastebin your musiconhold.conf`
`06:01.59`	`bkruse_home`	`brookshire: its almost done, i just have one problem :X :X :X :X`
`06:01.59`	`FuriousGeorge`	`1.4 went stable with no rc-s?`
`06:04.23`	`sudhir492`	`D-Fender : Here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/845010`
`06:07.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sudhir492 : You sure *'s user has access tot aht home folder? Also show the CLI output of the failed attempt to use it please.`
`06:07.47`	`sudhir492`	`Here is the CLI output`
`06:07.53`	`sudhir492`	`Dec 26 01:05:11 WARNING[9025]: res_musiconhold.c:900 local_ast_moh_start: No class: mymoh`
`06:08.32`	`bkruse_home`	`sudhir492: restart now`
`06:08.34`	`bkruse_home`	`?`
`06:08.50`	`sudhir492`	`stopped`
`06:08.54`	`sudhir492`	`restarted`
`06:08.58`	`bkruse_home`	`try now`
`06:09.56`	`sudhir492`	`tried, still the same error`
`06:10.34`	`bkruse_home`	`hmm`
`06:10.44`	`sudhir492`	`If it helps, I am using the class mymoh in queues.conf. In queues.conf, I have music=mymoh`
`06:10.59`	`bkruse_home`	`yaya.......`
`06:11.10`	`bkruse_home`	`~pb those to plz, or let me have a quick ssh/screen peek`
`06:11.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sudhir492 : Have you proven *'s access to the files you referenced?`
`06:12.03`	`sudhir492`	`D-Fender: my asterisk runs as root`
`06:12.05`	`bkruse_home`	`[TK]D-Fender: good point`
`06:12.08`	`bkruse_home`	`oh`
`06:12.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sudhir492 :Have you actually TRIED to manually play one in your dialplan?`
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`06:15.07`	`sudhir492`	`let me try that`
`06:17.13`	`sudhir492`	`what should be the format of the audio files?`
`06:17.57`	`sudhir492`	`I have a wav file, and a raw file`
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`06:20.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sudhir492 : just try to play them as-is. if that doesn't work, there's an immediate problem`
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`06:25.34`	`DEader`	`cancan someone point me to the right directory to download asterisk agi wakeup.agi sound files`
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`06:35.57`	`wasim`	`hmm .. poor england`
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`06:46.59`	`matt_`	`hello`
`06:47.20`	`bkruse_home`	`matt_: HEY!`
`06:47.22`	`matt_`	`atm i have some lines that will attempt an enum lookup and it works fine`
`06:47.24`	`bkruse_home`	`merry late christmas`
`06:47.31`	`matt_`	`lol merry christmas to you to`
`06:47.59`	`matt_`	`anyway, i'm making a new exten that will need the same code but if the enum stuff fail i want it to do other stuff`
`06:48.12`	`matt_`	`what i wanna do is just put the enum stuff in a function and call it`
`06:48.16`	`matt_`	`how do i do that`
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`06:55.20`	`DEader`	`any one every setup wakeup.agi`
`06:55.30`	`DEader`	`i notice sound files are missing`
`06:55.40`	`DEader`	`any one know where to get them`
`06:56.44`	`matt_`	`DEader, http://ftp.digium.com/pub/telephony/sounds/`
`06:57.33`	`naftali5`	`any ops have a sec?`
`06:57.56`	`naftali5`	`or anyone who knows the source code...`
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`06:58.28`	`bkruse_home`	`jbot freaking give me pastebin`
`06:58.30`	`bkruse_home`	`~pb`
`06:58.31`	`jbot`	`pb is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
`06:58.35`	`bkruse_home`	`ty`
`06:58.46`	`brookshire`	`naftali3: why don't you just ask?`
`06:58.53`	`naftali5`	`ok.`
`06:58.55`	`naftali5`	`pbx_builtin_getvar_helper(transferer, "TRANSFER_CONTEXT")`
`06:59.08`	`brookshire`	`ok?`
`06:59.15`	`brookshire`	`what about that function?`
`06:59.30`	`naftali5`	`sounds like i can set the channel variable TRANSFER_CONTEXT on either side of the bridged channel`
`07:00.09`	`naftali5`	`how do i set it for the transferer/ transferee independantly`
`07:00.25`	`matt_`	`ok how can i return to a context after i have used goto ?`
`07:00.41`	`naftali5`	`matt_ use gosub instead`
`07:00.51`	`ManxPower`	`matt_: try a gosub, you don't get to return when you goto`
`07:00.58`	`ManxPower`	`OR use a macro`
`07:01.14`	`matt_`	`:) ok`
`07:01.21`	`naftali5`	`actually, at the time i would not know which will be which, but how can i set a channel var for one leg of the bridged call?`
`07:01.36`	`ManxPower`	`naftali5: I don't know if you can.`
`07:02.15`	`naftali5`	`seems from the function that the code is expecting to be able to parse the var from either the transfrerer or transferee...`
`07:02.25`	`brookshire`	`no`
`07:02.33`	`brookshire`	`that's reading the var from the config files`
`07:02.45`	`matt_`	`it didn't return`
`07:02.57`	`matt_`	`is there anything i have to put at the end of the context ?`
`07:03.06`	`naftali5`	`?? then what is this for? pbx_builtin_getvar_helper(transferee, "TRANSFER_CONTEXT")`
`07:03.22`	`ManxPower`	`matt_: exten => 666,1,Macro(happy-mac-ro)`
`07:03.30`	`ManxPower`	`exten => 666,1,Goto(whereever`
`07:03.33`	`brookshire`	`matt_: may have to create a macro`
`07:03.41`	`brookshire`	`yeah.. what manxpower said`
`07:03.49`	`DEader`	`matt those are the core asterisk audio files`
`07:03.57`	`matt_`	`i have made a [enumlookup]`
`07:03.59`	`DEader`	`i need the wakeup.agi sound files`
`07:03.59`	`brookshire`	`naftali5: it loads the conf from the config files /etc/asterisk/*.conf`
`07:04.17`	`matt_`	`and used gosub to it, and it works fine but at the end of gosub it just times out`
`07:04.19`	`brookshire`	`i'm pretty sure`
`07:04.20`	`naftali5`	`if it is coming from the configs, then why does it parse both "tranferer" and "transferee"`
`07:04.35`	`brookshire`	`transferee is just the name of the variable`
`07:04.41`	`naftali5`	`no`
`07:04.46`	`brookshire`	`it could be making cookies for all i know`
`07:04.51`	`naftali5`	`TRANSFER_CONTEXT is`
`07:04.58`	`naftali5`	`cookies???`
`07:05.12`	`brookshire`	`no "TRANSFRER_CONTEXT" is a string`
`07:05.19`	`ManxPower`	`sigh What does README.variables say about TRANSFER_CONTEXT ?`
`07:05.47`	`bkruse_home`	`brookshire: it is making cookies, just clearing that up`
`07:06.07`	`file`	`brookshire: I thought you were going to sleep`
`07:06.28`	`brookshire`	`file: i lie`
`07:06.39`	`file`	`:(`
`07:06.46`	`bkruse_home`	`:(`
`07:06.51`	`ManxPower`	`VideoLan has kicked my ass.`
`07:08.28`	`naftali5`	`so that is the official answer?? it is having cookies and milk?!?`
`07:08.54`	`file`	`nini!`
`07:09.24`	`naftali5`	`file, is there a way to set a channel variable such that it affects only one leg of a bridged call?`
`07:11.39`	`naftali5`	`ok, next question... is there a dialplan application to bridge the call to an existing open channel`
`07:19.39`	`matt_`	`i want something like that, i want to be able to setup an exten so i can dial it, n it either asks me to login or has to be from a special phone and i dial an exten at the tone or whatever and it will let me listen to whats on that exten`
`07:20.17`	`naftali5`	`chanspy, but i think it just lets you cycle all channels`
`07:20.40`	`naftali5`	`zapbarge you can choose if you want to listen to a zap channel`
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`07:24.06`	`DUAL_MAN`	`hey dudes`
`07:24.23`	`DUAL_MAN`	`i'm in a bit of a jam`
`07:25.00`	`DUAL_MAN`	`i want to compile zaptel, i have kernel 2.6.17 and i just downloaded the headers for 2.6.18,`
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`07:29.48`	`bkruse_home`	`recompile zaptel`
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`07:29.58`	`bkruse_home`	`after your running the kernel you wana compile for`
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`08:12.51`	`ftexcom`	`hiyap`
`08:14.47`	`DrCron`	`hi`
`08:15.02`	`ftexcom`	`anybody knows how to configure a BLF on a SPA 941?`
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`08:17.10`	`ftexcom`	`congrats on the 1.4 release`
`08:18.25`	`Sauron	`Hmm.`
`08:18.46`	`Sauron	`Anyone know why I'm getting this error when I try to call my * setup? :`
`08:18.52`	`Sauron	`[Dec 26 02:17:45] NOTICE[14979]: chan_sip.c:13178 handle_request_invite: Unable`
`08:18.56`	`Sauron	`to create/find SIP channel for this INVITE`
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`08:56.45`	`ftexcom`	`Asterisk dosn't seem to detect my zap card`
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`09:00.02`	`web-keeper-666`	`hello`
`09:00.47`	`ftexcom`	`ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 1: No such device or address (6)`
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`09:11.55`	`coldsteal`	`hello`
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`09:13.23`	`coldsteal`	`i have a fast question do i need 2 ethernat ports for asterisk`
`09:16.28`	`DrCron`	`coldsteal, no`
`09:16.39`	`coldsteal`	`cool thank`
`09:16.42`	`coldsteal`	`s`
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`09:18.10`	`SwK`	`anyone wanna play crashtest dummy?`
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`09:19.25`	`coldsteal`	`lol o ya i have anouther question`
`09:20.23`	`SwK`	`ok ask it`
`09:20.28`	`coldsteal`	`can i giv my friend a phone that connects to my * server`
`09:20.54`	`coldsteal`	`and wehn he want to call me or i want to call him can i just do like *ext#`
`09:20.58`	`coldsteal`	`for free`
`09:20.59`	`SwK`	`yeah`
`09:21.10`	`coldsteal`	`it would be free`
`09:21.18`	`SwK`	`as long as you boht have internet connections`
`09:21.23`	`coldsteal`	`cool`
`09:21.25`	`coldsteal`	`thx`
`09:21.35`	`SwK`	`see voip-info.org for a ton of docs to get you started`
`09:22.08`	`coldsteal`	`okay thnaks`
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`09:29.54`	`d42`	`I am attempting to connect with IAX service freecall.net.au. I am getting the message "Registration Refused" cause code 29. I have checked and believe I have the correct user and password. Any ideas?`
`09:32.17`	`DrCron`	`hmm.. if told the correct external address, and the proper ports were forwarded, NAT shouldnt be an issue for asterisk, right?`
`09:33.17`	`d42`	`I have configured the router with DMZ pointed to my server.`
`09:33.48`	`DrCron`	`d42, perhaps all the providers capacity is used at the moment?`
`09:35.44`	`SwK`	`drcron in theory that shouldnt be a problem`
`09:35.58`	`SwK`	`drcron just double natting is always a pitfa`
`09:35.58`	`d42`	`It is in a 60 second registration cycle that keeps on failing. One might think that it would eventually register. It is generating failure message as I type this.`
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`09:40.16`	`d42`	`DrCron, I have configured externip and localnet in iax_custom.conf`
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`09:49.24`	`web-keeper-666`	`Hi guys, I couldnt help the conversation, I had a similair problem with a VSP.`
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`09:52.23`	`web-keeper-666`	`I tested first with a softphone like sjphone, to make sure I could register, once this was OK I then configured my Asterisk Trunk, as I found I had problems with opening ports.`
`09:53.20`	`coldsteal`	`i have a question`
`09:53.32`	`coldsteal`	`for iax`
`09:53.48`	`coldsteal`	`do i install it or does it just work`
`09:54.13`	`coldsteal`	`and i use a iax box to conect to my server`
`09:55.24`	`web-keeper-666`	`This is all dependant on the types of extensions you create, SIP or IAX, and the VSP's you use, as some allow you to create SIP or IAX Trunks.`
`09:55.52`	`coldsteal`	`ok`
`09:55.55`	`coldsteal`	`thanks`
`09:56.25`	`coldsteal`	`well i think im going to go with http://exgn.net/index.php?p=services`
`09:56.36`	`coldsteal`	`inless u guys know of cheeper ons?`
`09:58.48`	`coldsteal`	`do i need to foward ports on my router`
`09:58.57`	`coldsteal`	`for iax`
`09:59.53`	`d42`	`DrCron, I tried connecting to another provider. They also are busy. Do you have any suggestions of a provider that may work at this time?`
`10:00.07`	`web-keeper-666`	`I cant aswer that as I am in Australia and I dont know where you are, they might be ok.`
`10:00.22`	`coldsteal`	`i know iax will connect to the * sever from behind a nat mut on my end do i need to foward ports?`
`10:00.27`	`coldsteal`	`*but`
`10:00.33`	`DrCron`	`you could try voipjet, they offer 25 cents free when you create an account (also free)`
`10:02.41`	`web-keeper-666`	`In my experience, I have only opened outbound port for RTP, SIP & IAX, and this seem to work ok.`
`10:02.57`	`ftexcom`	`hummm`
`10:03.23`	`coldsteal`	`i live in the us`
`10:03.26`	`ftexcom`	`freepbx rc3 is not compatible with asterisk 1.4`
`10:03.44`	`SwK`	`so use asterisk 1.2`
`10:04.21`	`ftexcom`	`I was just informing`
`10:06.51`	`web-keeper-666`	`After playing with Asterisk for a while, I was impressed with what Nerdvittles did with there current version of Trixbox (PBX-in-a-Box), so I am in the process installing it to see how it all fits together.`
`10:08.10`	`web-keeper-666`	`Its hard finding time nowadays, so why re-invent the wheel..!`
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`10:09.47`	`ftexcom`	`anybody knows if asterisk 1.4 has deprecated support for raw files?`
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`10:25.42`	`tzafrir`	`ftexcom, what format exactly?`
`10:27.17`	`ftexcom`	`I did this`
`10:27.18`	`ftexcom`	`sox -c 1 filename.mp3 -t raw -r 8000 -c 1 -s -w filename.raw`
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`10:37.34`	`tzafrir`	`ftexcom, "raw" hardly means anything. It simply means no headers. Asterisk figures the file's encoding using its extension (yuck)`
`10:37.34`	`tzafrir`	`show audio formats or something similar`
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`10:37.35`	`tzafrir`	`That file seems to be signed linear (.sl for Asterisk)`
`10:37.35`	`ftexcom`	`It's for musiconhold`
`10:37.35`	`ftexcom`	`whenever I try to star music on hold, I get the classic error "Stopping music on hold"`
`10:37.35`	`tzafrir`	`ftexcom, do you use native music on hold ?`
`10:37.35`	`ftexcom`	`I'm sorry...what's native? :(`
`10:37.35`	`ftexcom`	`It use to work correctly until I upgraded to 1.4`
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`10:47.54`	`DEader`	`hi guys`
`10:48.04`	`DEader`	`my asterisk i think froze up on me`
`10:48.21`	`DEader`	`can someone tell me the command to get its process id so i can kill it`
`10:52.23`	`DEader`	`i was on it using ssh with the asterisk -cvvv`
`10:52.32`	`DEader`	`then my ssh client got disconnected`
`10:52.46`	`DEader`	`then i couldnt connect back to asterisk`
`10:52.54`	`DEader`	`is not normal`
`10:52.56`	`DEader`	`?`
`10:57.16`	`Mavvie`	`the contents of /etc/asterisk/sip.conf.sample`
`10:57.20`	`Mavvie`	`the contents of /etc/asterisk/sip.conf.sample is very confusing.`
`10:57.32`	`Mavvie`	`some lines are 80 characters, some are much more.`
`10:57.46`	`Mavvie`	`some commented out values are the default ones, others are the non-default ones.`
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`12:35.15`	`tzafrir`	`Mavvie, lines that begin with ';' are comments. Long lines usually are text lines. Anyway, IMHO a line longer than 80 characters should be chopped. Mind filing a bug about this (with proposed fixes?)`
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`13:30.40`	`lenne_dk`	`iax is just so much better than sip... I've had trouble with portforwarding, proxies, nat and whatever with sip. But with an iax-phone or asterisk <-> asterisk with iax, it just worked (tm)`
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`14:00.10`	`RoyK`	`what's new with zaptel 1.4?`
`14:00.54`	`robl^`	`a new version number. ;-)`
`14:01.03`	`hi365`	`anyone using sangoma a200 with bezeq?`
`14:02.00`	`robl^`	`RoyK: other than that, seems more like it is mostly stability / bog removal.. and tweaks to work better with Asterisk 1.4`
`14:02.09`	`tzafrir`	`RoyK, zttranscode`
`14:02.42`	`tzafrir`	`hi365, do you also have FXS modules?`
`14:03.00`	`hi365`	`tzafir: no. just the fxo`
`14:03.59`	`hi365`	`tzafir: have you been able to send sms?`
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`14:04.34`	`RoyK`	`tzafrir: what's in zttranscode?`
`14:04.41`	`RoyK`	`~zttranscode`
`14:04.49`	`RoyK`	`~wtf is zttranscode`
`14:04.56`	`RoyK`	`~wtf zttranscode`
`14:05.09`	`RoyK`	`~lart himself`
`14:13.51`	`tzafrir`	`jbot, zttranscode is the Zaptel driver for transcoding audio using the Ocastic chipset. Yet another way to transcode to/from g729`
`14:13.58`	`jbot`	`okay, tzafrir`
`14:14.02`	`tzafrir`	`RoyK, for you as well`
`14:14.33`	`hi365`	`tzafrir: ive got the sangoma a200 fxo's`
`14:15.07`	`hi365`	`have you been able to send sms?`
`14:15.09`	`tzafrir`	`hi365, I was able to send, not recieve SMS yet.`
`14:15.17`	`tzafrir`	`I haven't tried.`
`14:15.24`	`hi365`	`how did you send? ive been trying for ages!`
`14:15.46`	`tzafrir`	`smsq has some permissions issues. I was successful running it as user asterisk`
`14:15.47`	`shellshark`	`what do you need to send / recieve SMS? a gateway provider?`
`14:15.51`	`RoyK`	`tzafrir: ok. any idea what such a card costs?`
`14:16.18`	`tzafrir`	`RoyK, I believe that this is the EC unit in their latest cards`
`14:16.24`	`tzafrir`	`But I'm not sure`
`14:16.56`	`RoyK`	`I don't think so.....`
`14:16.57`	`tzafrir`	`hi365, I see no reason why there should be a problem.`
`14:17.02`	`hi365`	`tzafrir: this is what i do:`
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`14:17.07`	`hi365`	`su - asterisk`
`14:17.27`	`hi365`	`then: /usr/sbin/smsq --motx-channel "Zap/g1/14974800" "+972501234567" "asterisk rocks"`
`14:17.39`	`hi365`	`and i c:`
`14:17.39`	`hi365`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:17.40`	`hi365`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:17.40`	`hi365`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:17.40`	`hi365`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:17.45`	`hi365`	`.`
`14:17.52`	`hi365`	`but it dont recive the sms!`
`14:18.00`	`shellshark`	`ah you have to use a zap channel to send them?`
`14:18.12`	`hi365`	`yup. if your carrier supports it`
`14:19.09`	`shellshark`	`i see`
`14:19.24`	`shellshark`	`or if i had a GSM modem :)`
`14:19.56`	`hi365`	`tzafrir?`
`14:20.16`	`tzafrir`	`hi365, try something like: /usr/sbin/smsq --motx-channel "Zap/g1/14974800" "0501234567" "asterisk rocks"`
`14:20.24`	`tzafrir`	`note the different number`
`14:20.46`	`hi365`	`tzafrir: just tried (no +972) still no luck!`
`14:21.03`	`tzafrir`	`no +972, but with an extra 0`
`14:21.17`	`hi365`	`tzafrir: are you using the same command?`
`14:21.25`	`tzafrir`	`I'll try it...`
`14:21.26`	`hi365`	`w/ the extra 0!`
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`14:29.16`	`tzafrir`	`hi365, try: try /usr/sbin/smsq -d 0501234567 --motx-channel Zap/g0/14974800 test_message`
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`14:30.02`	`tzafrir`	`You probably need to write -d (--da) or -o (--oa) explicitly`
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`14:31.40`	`nsar`	`hello`
`14:31.44`	`nsar`	`merry xmas`
`14:32.37`	`nsar`	`asterisk 4.0 support stun finally?`
`14:33.04`	`Dont_Hate_bia`	`stun?`
`14:33.07`	`Dont_Hate_bia`	`<<<newbie`
`14:34.24`	`tzafrir`	`nsar, 1.4.0, maybe. I guess 4.0 will support it`
`14:34.36`	`tzafrir`	`~stun`
`14:34.42`	`jbot`	`from memory, stun is that feeling you get when you realise your SIP call actually got through!. Simple Traversal of UDP over NATs`
`14:35.40`	`macTijn`	`lol@jobt`
`14:35.45`	`macTijn`	`jbot, even :)`
`14:36.06`	`tzafrir`	`~wiki stun`
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`14:40.27`	`hi365`	`tzafrir: nothing! the cli show the call going thru (the sms beign sent) but im am not getting anythign!`
`14:40.56`	`tzafrir`	`hi365, I managed to send myself a message (050)`
`14:41.12`	`hi365`	`can you send me 1 pls?`
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`14:53.53`	`nsar`	`just a moment i wrote wrong version?`
`14:54.10`	`nsar`	`right 1.4.0`
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`14:54.28`	`nsar`	`sorry for the spelling mistake`
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`15:06.05`	`ftexcom`	`4.0..around 2030?`
`15:06.22`	`nsar`	`too late i will not be here anylonger :)`
`15:06.35`	`nsar`	`i made mistake i meant 1.4.0`
`15:07.14`	`mercestes`	`OMG! Asterisk 4.0 beta is out? Where can I get it?`
`15:07.34`	`nsar`	`1.4.0 i mean not 4.0`
`15:07.53`	`ftexcom`	`we are starting to be cruel`
`15:08.30`	`mercestes`	`So has anyone got the new spispopd demo?`
`15:08.43`	`shellshark`	`what's that?`
`15:09.20`	`nsar`	`shellshark what exactly?`
`15:09.58`	`mercestes`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPISPOPD`
`15:11.21`	`shellshark`	`nice`
`15:12.13`	`mercestes`	`nods`
`15:12.33`	`mercestes`	`It's an older legend. Back in the day. when the web was sans graphics and my Hayes Cmopatible 2400 was "da bomb."`
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`15:14.13`	`edgarin`	`Hi to all people, I have a problem with the music on hold in asterisk`
`15:14.17`	`nsar`	`and what has to do that with asterisk?`
`15:14.39`	`mercestes`	`It has to do with the Asterisk 4.0 beta. Use your imagination.`
`15:15.41`	`mutilator`	`is there a way to turn down the call waiting beep or is that something configured on the user end (ata or phone or whatnot)`
`15:16.14`	`mercestes`	`mutilator: On the ATA and Polycoms I believe you can define the "tone" settings, including the pitch, amplitude, volume, duration, etc.`
`15:16.55`	`mercestes`	`Atleast on Linksys (Sipura) ata's iirc.`
`15:17.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mercestes : 2400 baud? pfftt.. NEWB`
`15:19.00`	`mercestes`	`lol`
`15:19.43`	`tzafrir`	`edgarin, be more specific if you want us to help you...`
`15:20.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`me and my old m@d-l33t Apple][ BBSing days with modems that made you hold down a toggle switch to initiate carrier... those were the days. SOP tech.`
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`15:21.05`	`edgarin`	`ok, the problem is, in my asterisk I have the extension 24242, this extension the step is: 1. Answer 2. MusicOnHold`
`15:21.12`	`edgarin`	`but in the phone`
`15:21.26`	`edgarin`	`only listen a several piiii sound!`
`15:21.28`	`edgarin`	`beep`
`15:21.34`	`edgarin`	`not the file mp3`
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`15:22.17`	`mercestes`	`edgarin: What does the CLI say?`
`15:22.44`	`edgarin`	`ok, the CLI says`
`15:22.59`	`mercestes`	`[TK]D-Fender: Man, wow. That's actually a bit older than my bbsing days. Supersweet.`
`15:24.16`	`edgarin`	`*CLI> -- Registered SIP '99999' at 192.168.1.10 port 5062 expires 900`
`15:24.17`	`edgarin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:24.17`	`edgarin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:24.17`	`edgarin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:24.17`	`edgarin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:24.27`	`edgarin`	`sorry is flood but the CLI says this`
`15:25.06`	`nsar`	`i saw some pbx that can make voice recognition like telling the name of the person you wish to speak and the pbx find the equivelant extension to connect, is there a way to be done that in asterisk?`
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`15:25.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`nsar : Nothing particularly "sane", but it is possible`
`15:28.02`	`edgarin`	`many ideas?`
`15:28.40`	`edgarin`	`mercestes, see the results of the CLI`
`15:29.09`	`hi365`	`asterisk is trying to send an sms on a non existent chanel. how do i stop it?`
`15:29.33`	`mercestes`	`edgarin: It appears that * is playing music on hold correctly. Are you sure teh Mp3's are good?`
`15:29.37`	`mercestes`	`and existant?`
`15:29.54`	`edgarin`	`yes`
`15:29.56`	`nsar`	`for example here in greece we have a service for the hospitals that you close appointment by telling the name of the hospital and the name of the department in the hospital, and it's telling you what is the next available appointment and you have to say in greek yes or no to close the appointment`
`15:30.07`	`mercestes`	`How do you know?`
`15:30.07`	`nsar`	`it's not an operator it's a computer`
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`15:30.41`	`edgarin`	`mercestes, in my musiconhold.conf`
`15:30.42`	`edgarin`	`[classes]`
`15:30.43`	`edgarin`	`default => quietmp3:/var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3`
`15:31.13`	`edgarin`	`and if i execute this command:`
`15:31.14`	`edgarin`	`root@edgarin-desktop:/etc/asterisk# ls /var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3/`
`15:31.14`	`edgarin`	`archivo.mp3`
`15:31.14`	`edgarin`	`root@edgarin-desktop:/etc/asterisk#`
`15:31.29`	`edgarin`	`in this directory exist a one file called archivo.mp`
`15:31.50`	`mercestes`	`Ok. Is it a good mp3? Did you sox it to the correct rate?`
`15:32.09`	`edgarin`	`mercestes, wait... i try to play with mpg123`
`15:32.28`	`edgarin`	`yes the file is correct`
`15:32.41`	`edgarin`	`with the mpg123 the file is correct and have sound`
`15:32.52`	`edgarin`	`root@edgarin-desktop:/var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3# mpg123 archivo.mp3`
`15:32.53`	`edgarin`	`High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2, and 3.`
`15:32.53`	`edgarin`	`Version 0.59q (2002/03/23). Written and copyrights by Joe Drew.`
`15:32.53`	`edgarin`	`Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more!`
`15:32.53`	`edgarin`	`THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!`
`15:32.53`	`edgarin`	`Title : Christmas Time Is Here - A Cha Artist: Vince Guaraldi Trio`
`15:32.55`	`edgarin`	`Album : Year :`
`15:32.57`	`edgarin`	`Comment: Genre :`
`15:32.59`	`edgarin`	`Playing MPEG stream from archivo.mp3 ...`
`15:33.03`	`edgarin`	`MPEG 1.0 layer III, 96 kbit/s, 44100 Hz joint-stereo`
`15:33.05`	`ftexcom`	`edgarin please, use pastebin`
`15:33.08`	`mercestes`	`please stop....`
`15:33.12`	`edgarin`	`ftexcom, ok sorry :(`
`15:33.25`	`ftexcom`	`edgarin are you using asterisk 1.2?`
`15:33.34`	`ftexcom`	`try convert the file to wav...and the...try it`
`15:33.38`	`nsar`	`edgarin you better use pastebin`
`15:33.47`	`edgarin`	`ok`
`15:34.03`	`nsar`	`and give url here`
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`15:35.08`	`mercestes`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+musiconhold.conf`
`15:36.10`	`mercestes`	`http://astrecipes.net/?n=152`
`15:39.37`	`ManxPower`	`W3sT: there are hundreds of companies like NuFone`
`15:39.42`	`*** join/#asterisk sigmounte (n=sigmount@www.sighq.net)`
`15:39.45`	`ManxPower`	`teliax, broadvoice`
`15:40.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`edgarin : "Version 0.59q (2002/03/23). Written and copyrights by Joe Drew."`
`15:40.35`	`W3sT`	`ManxPower: does they support spoofing caller id?`
`15:40.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`edgarin : the docs clear specify that you must be using version 0.59r for it to work`
`15:40.55`	`ManxPower`	`W3sT: most of them do`
`15:41.03`	`ManxPower`	`Why is that so important?`
`15:41.16`	`W3sT`	`i neet them to work with iax softphone`
`15:41.32`	`ManxPower`	`none of them will let you use their service for fraud.`
`15:41.53`	`*** join/#asterisk xnon (n=xnon@200.82.222.86)`
`15:42.16`	`W3sT`	`nufone works`
`15:42.18`	`W3sT`	`:)`
`15:42.41`	`W3sT`	but i don`t need it for fraud
`15:42.43`	`mercestes`	`as you advertise your IP address to an asterisk channel admitting to fraud. Allow me to email nufone.`
`15:43.17`	`*** join/#asterisk klasstek (n=nunyobiz@ip67-154-143-190.z143-154-67.customer.algx.net)`
`15:43.43`	`*** join/#asterisk Stevesy (n=Steve@rrcs-24-242-156-150.sw.biz.rr.com)`
`15:43.46`	`W3sT`	`mercestes i told you not for fraut i just told him that nufone allow to spoof the caller id without a software`
`15:44.21`	`robl^`	`caller ID spoofing is bad. Caller ID setting to match an assigned DID is ok.`
`15:44.42`	`W3sT`	`DID? what is DID??`
`15:44.51`	`W3sT`	`robl^: what is DID?`
`15:44.52`	`ManxPower`	`I like setting my callerid to be the number of my cell phone or landline`
`15:44.54`	`*** part/#asterisk Stevesy (n=Steve@rrcs-24-242-156-150.sw.biz.rr.com)`
`15:44.56`	`*** join/#asterisk Stevesy (n=Steve@rrcs-24-242-156-150.sw.biz.rr.com)`
`15:45.00`	`tzafrir`	`~did`
`15:45.02`	`jbot`	`well, did is Direct Inward Dialing`
`15:45.04`	`ManxPower`	`W3sT: DID = telephone number`
`15:45.48`	`Stevesy`	`I recently purchased g729 licenses and I get no sound with the g729 codec. All others work fine. Any suggestions?`
`15:45.57`	`W3sT`	`the ManxPower is no other webpage that have same services as nufone right?`
`15:46.12`	`ManxPower`	`W3sT: www.teliax.com`
`15:46.12`	`robl^`	`DID = an telephone number that has been assigned to you. a company may have like a block of 100 DIDs.. you sett your caller ID of outbound calls to a DID that bleongs to you`
`15:46.31`	`*** join/#asterisk brad_mssw (n=brad@shop.monetra.com)`
`15:46.40`	`ManxPower`	`Stevesy: I've never heard of that problem being specific to G279, only sopecific to NAT`
`15:46.48`	`*** join/#asterisk jcmoore (n=jcmoore@unaffiliated/tgrman)`
`15:47.10`	`ManxPower`	`well NAT and/or firewall`
`15:47.19`	`robl^`	`or CPU issues with g729.. if your CPU isn't fast enuff to do the transcoding`
`15:47.26`	`*** join/#asterisk zotz (n=zotz@24.244.163.157)`
`15:47.35`	`Stevesy`	`I have two boxes trunked together with an IAX trunk. ulaw and gsm work fins but as soon as I use g729 it's dead sound and I see no errors.`
`15:47.49`	`Stevesy`	`They are connected via vpn so no nat issue`
`15:47.55`	`*** part/#asterisk websae (n=websae@adsl-75-48-246-49.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net)`
`15:48.11`	`Stevesy`	`dual core 2.8 on one end dual 1.4 pii on the other`
`15:48.16`	`Stevesy`	`er piii`
`15:48.29`	`ManxPower`	`Stevesy: does "show translation" show numbers in the g729 row?`
`15:48.30`	`*** join/#asterisk tr2x (n=alvar@212-41-99-204.adsl.solnet.ch)`
`15:48.36`	`Stevesy`	`sec`
`15:48.57`	`robl^`	`processor should be fine. maybe the license didn't get activated?`
`15:49.27`	`W3sT`	`ManxPower: thank You`
`15:49.29`	`Stevesy`	`they're activated`
`15:49.42`	`Stevesy`	`no it doesn't show anything except '-'`
`15:49.56`	`ManxPower`	`Stevesy: that means the license is not installed`
`15:50.06`	`robl^`	`yup`
`15:50.12`	`Stevesy`	`then what is 'show g729'?`
`15:50.45`	`Stevesy`	`it says 5 licenses on both boxes`
`15:50.49`	`Stevesy`	`I'm confused`
`15:50.51`	`ManxPower`	`Stevesy: what is the output of "show g729"`
`15:51.23`	`ManxPower`	`Stevesy: "show translation" shows what codec Asterisk can transcode. If there are no numbers in the g729 row then asterisk does not see the codec as intalled or licensed.`
`15:51.34`	`Stevesy`	`0/0 encoders/decoders of 5 licensed channels are currently in use`
`15:51.58`	`ManxPower`	`Don't know.`
`15:52.07`	`Stevesy`	`ok then why the discrepency between show g729 and transcoders?`
`15:52.25`	`Stevesy`	`er translation`
`15:52.29`	`ManxPower`	`Stevesy: try this: do a call betwen the servers, then do a "iax2 show channels" and look at the codec.`
`15:52.35`	`Stevesy`	`k`
`15:52.45`	`ManxPower`	`Stevesy: I don't know. Perhaps a call to Digium support is a good idea.`
`15:54.01`	`*** join/#asterisk Alric (n=nbowyer@wireless-062.1stel.com)`
`15:54.04`	`Stevesy`	`Channel Peer Username ID (Lo/Rem) Seq (Tx/Rx) Lag Jitter JitBuf Format`
`15:54.04`	`Stevesy`	`IAX2/ToTrixBox-1 10.10.51.2 SteveUser 00001/00001 00011/00007 00040ms -0001ms 0000ms unknow`
`15:54.04`	`Stevesy`	`1 active IAX channel`
`15:54.21`	`ftexcom`	`asterisk and ubuntu...what do you think?`
`15:54.34`	`*** part/#asterisk Alric (n=nbowyer@wireless-062.1stel.com)`
`15:54.53`	`Stevesy`	`when it connects I see 'using g729'`
`15:54.54`	`ManxPower`	`ftexcom: most any distro will work`
`15:55.08`	`*** join/#asterisk reggy7c (n=reggy7c@210.11.97.131)`
`15:55.31`	`ManxPower`	`Are you dialing by IP or by iax.conf section name?`
`15:55.47`	`Stevesy`	`by trunk`
`15:56.30`	`ManxPower`	`Stevesy: There is no such thing as a trunk in Asterisk. "trunking" is a term used to combine multiple calls in one UDP stream.`
`15:56.33`	`robl^`	`ftexcom: the key is find a distro you are familiar with... and make sure you install it without any un-needed extras, like a GUI. RUnning a GUI puts extra burden on the CPU and causes sound to be choppy`
`15:56.52`	`ManxPower`	`"trunk" is a Trixbox term and if you use it people will point at you and laugh.`
`15:57.11`	`*** join/#asterisk Gunnar (n=gunnar@34.80-203-209.nextgentel.com)`
`15:57.13`	`Stevesy`	`heh..it's trixbox. I'm using this in extensions_custom.conf.`
`15:57.14`	`Stevesy`	`[custom-pass-thru]`
`15:57.14`	`Stevesy`	`exten => _.,1,Macro(dialout-trunk,2,${EXTEN},,)`
`15:57.14`	`Stevesy`	`exten => .,n,Macro(outisbusy,)`
`15:57.15`	`robl^`	`well.. trunk is also a legacy PBX term too`
`15:57.49`	`ManxPower`	`Stevesy: unfortunatly we can't help you with it since Trixbox is so complicated we don't even know where to look for the ACTUAL dial line.`
`15:58.18`	`ftexcom`	`anybody knows where I can get genzaptelconf?`
`15:59.01`	`Stevesy`	`Does it make a difference? Can you just give a summary of what you're looking for? Remember using any other codec works fine. I do see 'using g729' when it calls the other box in the cli.`
`15:59.07`	`ManxPower`	`ftexcom: it's not part of Zaptel?`
`15:59.30`	`ftexcom`	`ManxPower I just compiled zaptel and I can seem to find the genzaptelconf`
`15:59.35`	`ManxPower`	`Stevesy: if you dial by IP address then only [general] in iax.conf is used.`
`15:59.35`	`ftexcom`	`can't*`
`15:59.43`	`Stevesy`	`I see`
`15:59.43`	`ManxPower`	`no other section is used.`
`16:00.00`	`ManxPower`	`so calls can easily be set up in a way you do not expect.`
`16:00.27`	`Stevesy`	`Ok the other box is 192.168.1.192 can you give me a simple dial line to test with?`
`16:00.39`	`ManxPower`	`Stevesy: in iax.conf I recommend putting context=INVALID in [general] then put the correct context= line in each peer/friend/user section of iax.conf`
`16:00.49`	`Stevesy`	`k`
`16:01.22`	`ManxPower`	`that makes SURE that if an incoming call does not patch a [section] name then the call will fail and you know you have a config problem.`
`16:01.33`	`ManxPower`	`by default asterisk will accept the call as a guest`
`16:01.44`	`Stevesy`	`k`
`16:01.58`	`ManxPower`	`you don't want that, so you can make sure that does not happen by using the context=INVALID trick`
`16:03.24`	`robl^`	`Stevesy: you might also want to try #freePBX as they are much more familiar with the peculiarities of trixbox. trixbox is highly modified -- lots of custom config files, macros, patches, etc. It doesn't work quite the same as normal Asterisk.`
`16:04.06`	`*** join/#asterisk iq_ (n=iq@71-215-56-25.omah.qwest.net)`
`16:04.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~freepbx`
`16:04.15`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, freepbx is the Microsoft BOB of PBXes and NOT supported here! People using it should join #freepbx (FreePBX is the new name of AMP)`
`16:04.22`	`danp`	`i like the context=INVALID trick`
`16:04.24`	`Stevesy`	`ManxPower - Ok but...if it were a config issue wouldn't all codecs fail? I mean how would it be specific to g729?`
`16:04.35`	`*** join/#asterisk Dr-Linux (n=Nothing@202.125.139.198)`
`16:05.11`	`Stevesy`	`If I simply replace allow=g729 with allow=ulaw it works`
`16:05.13`	`ManxPower`	`perhaps the incoming call is not matching a peer that has trunking=yes or whatever the option is. Perhaps it's matching something that does not have G729 installed.`
`16:05.25`	`ManxPower`	`many things could cause the problem.`
`16:05.35`	`Stevesy`	`ok...I'll call digium thanks for the help`
`16:05.43`	`ManxPower`	`BTW, does the "show translation" show nothing for G729 for BOTH servers, or just one of the servers.`
`16:05.54`	`Stevesy`	`both servers show '-'`
`16:06.02`	`*** join/#asterisk Ebola (n=Ebola@host81-152-204-231.range81-152.btcentralplus.com)`
`16:06.10`	`ManxPower`	`Stevesy: THAT is what you should call Digium about.`
`16:06.18`	`Stevesy`	`Seems strange show g729 would show the licenses but not show translation`
`16:06.29`	`Dr-Linux`	`ManxPower: what asterisk function/application i can use in dialplan for the socket communication with backend API for the DB?`
`16:06.55`	`ManxPower`	`Dr-Linux: NONE. Use an AGI`
`16:07.33`	`ManxPower`	`If you just want to do a database lookup then some DB drivers add apps to Asterisk.`
`16:08.04`	`Dr-Linux`	`ManxPower: means asterisk doesn't support socket based communication into the dialplan?`
`16:08.14`	`ManxPower`	`Dr-Linux: That is correct.`
`16:08.22`	`Dr-Linux`	`Thank you.`
`16:08.38`	`ManxPower`	`Assuming you mean "direct setup/teardown of sockets"`
`16:08.58`	`ManxPower`	`There are many applications like ENUMLookup that does network communictaion`
`16:09.13`	`ManxPower`	`AGI is the way to do`
`16:09.16`	`ManxPower`	`..er.. go`
`16:09.34`	`Dr-Linux`	`ManxPower: currently we are doing all using AGI's in c/c++ , but i was just making sure`
`16:10.00`	`Dr-Linux`	`actually, making an IVR is easy in the dialplan`
`16:10.10`	`Dr-Linux`	`but socket comm is the case`
`16:10.20`	`ManxPower`	`I believe the MySQL stuff allows you to do a database lookup and get the result in a variable.`
`16:10.32`	`ManxPower`	`that still does not let you do a direct socket communications`
`16:11.00`	`*** join/#asterisk converx (n=locid@206-248-160-53.dsl.teksavvy.com)`
`16:11.00`	`ManxPower`	`Dr-Linux: if you have performance issues try FastAGI`
`16:11.01`	`Dr-Linux`	`ManxPower: we are just going to buy LumenVox recogntion license, so i thought if possible i'd give a try to my IVR in dialplan. But it's not`
`16:11.01`	`ManxPower`	`IF that is not fast enough, an Asterisk application written in C will help`
`16:11.37`	`Dr-Linux`	`ManxPower: what's main difference between fastagi and agi ?`
`16:11.41`	`converx`	`anyone knows how to change the default voicemail greeting?`
`16:12.05`	`ManxPower`	`converx: option "0" when you log into your voice mailbox`
`16:12.05`	`mercestes`	`I love it when AT&T shows up to fix equipment I didn't know I had.`
`16:12.09`	`Dr-Linux`	`converx: i think, you need to overide sound files`
`16:12.33`	`converx`	`without calling into voicemail. I want to upload my .wav file`
`16:12.43`	`ManxPower`	`converx: good luck`
`16:12.57`	`Dr-Linux`	`converx: if you want to customzie voicemail stuff then play with app_voicemail.c`
`16:13.36`	`converx`	`when you record a new voicemail greeting through phone. where is the audio file stored?`
`16:13.49`	`ManxPower`	`converx: create the custom greetings the correct way, see what files are created in the mailbox (/var/spool/asterisk/something)`
`16:13.50`	`mercestes`	`converx: /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/<context>/<exten>/`
`16:14.32`	`Dr-Linux`	`converx: opss, your question is simple, wait lemme give you a link, i made a document on, howto using voicemail`
`16:14.33`	`mercestes`	`converx: You just scp whereverImayroam.mp3 username@yourbox.com:/var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default/<extension>/`
`16:15.01`	`ManxPower`	`mercestes: voicemail supports mp3s`
`16:15.05`	`ManxPower`	`?`
`16:15.16`	`mercestes`	`ManxPower: no. I just picked somethign random out of my collection.`
`16:15.20`	`Dr-Linux`	`converx: you go there >> http://extensions.i2cinc.com/users/PBX%20user%20manual.pdf`
`16:15.24`	`mercestes`	`ManxPower: I don't play many .wavs.`
`16:15.32`	`mercestes`	`...or gsms.`
`16:15.54`	`ManxPower`	`bbiaw, work calls.`
`16:15.56`	`Dr-Linux`	`converx: i wrote that for my company's user, but you can get an idea :)`
`16:16.47`	`mercestes`	`I wonder if he ever gets any random donations.`
`16:16.56`	`Dr-Linux`	`lol`
`16:16.58`	`*** join/#asterisk Astawerks (n=root@63.161.96.170)`
`16:17.07`	`Strom_M`	`he does, from what I understand`
`16:17.10`	`mercestes`	`I've been promised paypals before.`
`16:17.13`	`*** join/#asterisk hfb (n=hfb@pool-71-118-252-158.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net)`
`16:17.24`	`mercestes`	`Strom_M: Hmm...I should try that then.`
`16:17.28`	`Dr-Linux`	`they are getting good donations >> www.iraqbodycount.org`
`16:19.24`	`Dr-Linux`	`anybody ever try mail2fax kind of program with asterisk?`
`16:19.36`	`mercestes`	`You mean email to fax?`
`16:19.47`	`Dr-Linux`	`mercestes: yes`
`16:19.53`	`mercestes`	`I had somethign working once.`
`16:20.12`	`mercestes`	`but I had to edit a slew of bash scripts and do some sendmail mangling to get it to work.`
`16:20.15`	`*** join/#asterisk marv[work] (n=timr@24.214.206.254)`
`16:20.28`	`Dr-Linux`	`actually, i went through a couple of programs that work with asterisk, but i need a recommended one`
`16:20.37`	`Dr-Linux`	`mercestes: what about AsterFax?`
`16:20.38`	`mercestes`	`I had it working and everything but then I changed companies and the retards formatted everything to go to Redhat.`
`16:20.58`	`mercestes`	`Dr-Linux: I was using Hylafax+Iaxmodem.`
`16:21.12`	`Dr-Linux`	`mercestes: my all production servers are on RHEL`
`16:21.21`	`mercestes`	`Good for you.`
`16:21.36`	`mercestes`	`all my production servers are gentoo.`
`16:21.55`	`Dr-Linux`	`mercestes: friend what you say about this > http://asterfax.sourceforge.net/`
`16:21.55`	`*** join/#asterisk sunder (n=sunderod@72.54.41.2)`
`16:22.06`	`*** join/#asterisk p1p (i=pip@mail.comp911.com)`
`16:22.27`	`p1p`	`t`
`16:22.28`	`Dr-Linux`	`mercestes: actually this program has enough features`
`16:22.31`	`robl^`	`real men use Caldera Linux ;-)`
`16:22.51`	`Dr-Linux`	`Caldera :S`
`16:22.54`	`p1p`	`I am having a serious problem with callerid in asterisk, anyone familiar?`
`16:23.17`	`Dr-Linux`	`lol`
`16:23.18`	`mercestes`	`p1p: Start a telemarketing callcenter.`
`16:23.28`	`robl^`	`p1p: what problem with CallerID?`
`16:23.29`	`p1p`	`Lol`
`16:23.38`	`mercestes`	`Dr-Linux: I think we are using this here now, but..we're cheating. we use PRI's.`
`16:23.46`	`p1p`	`ok here goes, first of all im using freepbx so please dont freak out :)`
`16:24.02`	`mercestes`	`p1p: .....you already know to ask in #freepbx then.`
`16:24.06`	`*** join/#asterisk juanjoc (n=juanjoc@201.216.212.113)`
`16:24.18`	`Dr-Linux`	`mercestes: that's the point which i want to explore`
`16:24.30`	`Dr-Linux`	`mercestes: that won't work with analog lines?`
`16:24.36`	`mercestes`	`p1p: You have to use ISDN singalling. "Name" <number> certain carriers just refuse to carry good caller ID.`
`16:24.41`	`Astawerks`	`real men use freepbx :) NOT`
`16:24.56`	`Dr-Linux`	`mercestes: actually my few servers have PRI's but our pbx has analogs`
`16:24.57`	`mercestes`	`p1p: outside of that...we probably can't help.`
`16:24.58`	`Astawerks`	`:) JK do you have callerid on your line ?`
`16:24.59`	`p1p`	`I am using asterisk with a quintum gateway to trunk down a huntgroup of 6 pstn lines. Everything worked great until I had att add callerid on the lines, now incoming calls ring the phoens ~1/2 ring and then dissappear, the call then reappears with no callerid info`
`16:25.06`	`robl^`	`p1p: #freepbx is your friend then. freepbx really.. umm.. "mangles / folds / staples / mutilates" the configuration files.`
`16:25.07`	`*** join/#asterisk sunder2 (n=sunderod@72.54.41.2)`
`16:25.16`	`p1p`	`nobody in #freepbx has been able to help :(`
`16:25.22`	`p1p`	`over the past 3-5 days`
`16:25.28`	`p1p`	`havent seen kerry on in ages`
`16:25.36`	`p1p`	`starting to get desperate`
`16:25.41`	`p1p`	`== Manager 'admin' logged on from 127.0.0.1`
`16:25.41`	`p1p`	`-- Executing Set("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "FROM_DID=s") in new stack`
`16:25.43`	`p1p`	`-- Executing Goto("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "timeconditions\|1\|1") in new stack`
`16:25.45`	`p1p`	`-- Goto (timeconditions,1,1)`
`16:25.47`	`p1p`	`-- Executing GotoIfTime("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "08:00-16:30\|mon-fri\|\|?ext-group\|200\|1") in new stack`
`16:25.49`	`p1p`	`-- Goto (ext-group,200,1)`
`16:25.51`	`mercestes`	`omg ban.`
`16:25.51`	`p1p`	`-- Executing Macro("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "user-callerid\|") in new stack`
`16:25.53`	`p1p`	`-- Executing GotoIf("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "0?report") in new stack`
`16:25.54`	`robl^`	`ack! pastebin!`
`16:25.55`	`p1p`	`-- Executing GotoIf("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "0?start") in new stack`
`16:25.57`	`p1p`	`-- Executing Set("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "REALCALLERIDNUM=4142787911") in new stack`
`16:25.59`	`p1p`	`-- Executing NoOp("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "REALCALLERIDNUM is 4142787911") in new stack`
`16:26.01`	`p1p`	`-- Executing Set("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "AMPUSER=") in new stack`
`16:26.02`	`Dr-Linux`	`~pb`
`16:26.05`	`jbot`	`it has been said that pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
`16:26.05`	`mercestes`	`keek him!`
`16:26.05`	`p1p`	`-- Executing Set("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "AMPUSERCIDNAME=") in new stack`
`16:26.05`	`p1p`	`-- Executing GotoIf("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "1?report") in new stack`
`16:26.07`	`p1p`	`-- Goto (macro-user-callerid,s,10)`
`16:26.09`	`p1p`	`-- Executing NoOp("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "TTL: ARG1: ") in new stack`
`16:26.11`	`p1p`	`-- Executing GotoIf("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "0?continue") in new stack`
`16:26.13`	`p1p`	`-- Executing Set("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "_TTL=64") in new stack`
`16:26.15`	`p1p`	`-- Executing GotoIf("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "1?continue") in new stack`
`16:26.17`	`mercestes`	`dude, you tard...stop that.`
`16:26.17`	`Strom_M`	`holy christ on a stick`
`16:26.17`	`p1p`	`-- Goto (macro-user-callerid,s,20)`
`16:26.18`	`p1p`	`wtf`
`16:26.20`	`p1p`	`-- Executing NoOp("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "Using CallerID "" <4142787911>") in new stack`
`16:26.22`	`p1p`	`holy shit`
`16:26.24`	`p1p`	`-- Executing GotoIf("SIP/10.0.0.7-b78237b0", "1?skipdb") in new stack`
`16:26.26`	`p1p`	`-- Goto (ext-group,200,4)`
`16:26.29`	`robl^`	`sheep him!!!!`
`16:26.30`	`Astawerks`	`see i almost got kicked for doing this the ohter day :)`
`16:26.36`	`Strom_M`	`what a nub`
`16:26.40`	`Dr-Linux`	`:S`
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`16:26.53`	`p1p`	`whoa`
`16:26.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`^&@ing idiot`
`16:26.56`	`mercestes`	`See...`
`16:26.59`	`p1p`	`serious mistake there guys`
`16:26.59`	`robl^`	`hrrm.. wait this isn't WoW. No sheep-ing.`
`16:27.01`	`mercestes`	`this is why we don't support freepbx.`
`16:27.14`	`p1p`	`now thats just not nice ;(`
`16:27.28`	`p1p`	`I was trying to post a pastebin url`
`16:27.34`	`mercestes`	`lol`
`16:27.36`	`mercestes`	`you failed.`
`16:27.38`	`p1p`	`haha`
`16:27.44`	`p1p`	`true story`
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`16:28.00`	`robl^`	`"cut & paste boo-boo!"`
`16:28.23`	`mercestes`	`I can tell you now your config files have been vicously raped by a monkey with a keyboard.`
`16:28.29`	`kay2`	`someone interested in Asterisk-3G ? calling/receiving video calls from 3G phones to PRI ?`
`16:28.42`	`p1p`	`dont pretend like none of you have ever accidentally done the 1020105 line paste flood`
`16:28.43`	`Strom_M`	`~freepbx`
`16:28.44`	`jbot`	`freepbx is, like, NOT supported here! FreePBX includes giant creeping thing-like macros which invade your dialplan, making debugging and customization extremely difficult. Since it doesn't work the same as regular Asterisk, people using it should join #freepbx.`
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`16:29.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`p1p : You are batting 1000 on the list of thisng NOT to do so far...`
`16:29.22`	`PupenoR`	`is there some other web interface that is not considered as bad as FreePBX ?`
`16:29.37`	`Astawerks`	`1.4 gui`
`16:29.50`	`kay2`	`it's true, it's considered to be better :)`
`16:29.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`PupenoR : Depends on your idea of "bad". They all control how your system is set up and none of us want to hear ANY of it.`
`16:29.54`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`PupenoR, also: voiceone and destar`
`16:30.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`1.4 GUI may be cleaner but its still a GUI, and has its own channel.`
`16:30.24`	`PupenoR`	`[TK]D-Fender: "bad" as in ~freepbx.`
`16:30.25`	`mercestes`	`p1p: If your truly desperate. Take that freepbx crap off and go pure *.`
`16:30.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ScopServ owns them all but isn't very "available" in their current distribution model.`
`16:30.46`	`p1p`	`mercestes: not an option at 10:30am during a work day`
`16:30.52`	`PupenoR`	`Astawerks: what is 1.4 gui ?`
`16:30.57`	`mercestes`	`p1p: And if you could cat your cli directly into IRC for troubleshooting purposes, we'd appreciate it...:P`
`16:31.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`p1p : Going to be a long night for you then`
`16:31.16`	`Dr-Linux`	`mercestes: so what you say about AsterFax?`
`16:31.18`	`p1p`	`I already did mercestes :p`
`16:31.36`	`mercestes`	`Dr-Linux: Give it a try. I think it should be ok.`
`16:31.48`	`p1p`	`In case anyone is interested this is the output of the asterisk logger - http://pastebin.ca/292498`
`16:31.56`	`mercestes`	`Dr-Linux: Probably easier than the pain I went through and likely cheaper than contracting me to do it. :P`
`16:32.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`p1p : "Dec 26 10:03:26 DEBUG[30962] app_dial.c: Exiting with DIALSTATUS=CANCEL."`
`16:33.09`	`Dr-Linux`	`mercestes: so PRI and Analog won't made a differ using this program?`
`16:33.24`	`Dr-Linux`	`mercestes: anyway, i'll give it a try soon`
`16:33.30`	`p1p`	`yeah on the quintum debug logs im seeing "487 - session cancelled" then a retry and the call goes through with no cid information just fine`
`16:33.50`	`mercestes`	`I see a cancel, and then a resetcdr, and then a dial.`
`16:34.13`	`mercestes`	`is this one call?`
`16:34.13`	`p1p`	`yes`
`16:34.28`	`p1p`	`its like asterisk refuses to answer the call until its resent sans cid`
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`16:35.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`p1p : sounds like an auth problem.`
`16:36.05`	`p1p`	`[TK]D-Fender: if that were the case why did it work fine before I had the telco add cid to the line?`
`16:36.19`	`mercestes`	`p1p: Is this a sip to sip call?`
`16:37.08`	`p1p`	`mercestes: this is a call being forwarded from a quintum gateway that is trunking a 6 line hunt group`
`16:37.18`	`p1p`	`so yes`
`16:41.23`	`mercestes`	`p1p: no clue here. It seems to be exitting after a "deadlock" conditino.`
`16:41.55`	`mercestes`	`p1p: Quintum is also an interesting scenario because you pretty much have to call up Quintum to have them configure those darned things.`
`16:42.08`	`mercestes`	`p1p: Your not getting paid to do this are you?`
`16:42.32`	`pussfeller`	`a PII 400mz fast enough to handle 2 g729 calls`
`16:42.34`	`pussfeller`	`?`
`16:43.28`	`mercestes`	`pussfeller: is a 3-cyl engine enough to drive a car?`
`16:43.34`	`RoyK`	`pussfeller: i'd say so.`
`16:43.38`	`shellshark`	`mercestes: sure ;)`
`16:43.40`	`p1p`	`mercestes: I inherited this phone system from the joker who installed it, I know a fair bit about telecom but im pretty new to asterisk, so yes im getting paid to do this but only because nobody else wants to`
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`16:43.54`	`shellshark`	`mercestes: the model T was only 1-cyl ;)`
`16:43.57`	`mercestes`	`p1p: Good answer.`
`16:44.02`	`Qwell[]`	`p1p: if you don't want to do it, there are plenty of consultants in here who will`
`16:44.05`	`mercestes`	`shellshark: Precisely so.`
`16:44.07`	`pussfeller`	`mercestes: is it fast enough to get you to the grocery? probably`
`16:44.16`	`pussfeller`	`mercestes: is it fast enough to win a race? probably not`
`16:44.30`	`mercestes`	`pussfeller: the nature of your question and mine are very similar in nature. "yes, with limitations and a few assumptions."`
`16:44.36`	`Qwell[]`	`pussfeller: it could be fast enough`
`16:44.36`	`shellshark`	`mercestes: actually, isnt the RX-7 3-cyl?`
`16:44.44`	`Qwell[]`	`pussfeller: ...if you're racing other people with 3-cyl`
`16:44.51`	`p1p`	`rx7= rotary`
`16:44.58`	`p1p`	`not 3cyl`
`16:45.07`	`djflux`	`the rx7 has no cylinders`
`16:45.08`	`shellshark`	`rotary doesnt have cylanders?`
`16:45.11`	`p1p`	`nope`
`16:45.12`	`pussfeller`	`will the choppiness from the cpu being maxed out be wetter or worse than the bandwidth choppiness of ulaw? who knows`
`16:45.13`	`djflux`	`nope`
`16:45.16`	`p1p`	`I drive one I should know :)`
`16:45.17`	`shellshark`	`ah`
`16:45.29`	`shellshark`	`it's got three somethings ;)`
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`16:45.45`	`p1p`	`http://www.rotaryengineillustrated.com/`
`16:45.54`	`p1p`	`its got two rotors and an eccentric shaft`
`16:46.03`	`pussfeller`	`those are a pain to work on from what i hear`
`16:46.18`	`mercestes`	`p1p: Honestly. Quintums are .....elite expensive ATA's. Whatever your using it for....use FXS or PRi's instead. And I would start workign on dumping the #freepbx and start building a from scratch * system.`
`16:46.36`	`mercestes`	`he said eccentric shaft. heh...heh.`
`16:47.01`	`p1p`	`mercestes: that sounds like a good idea to me. freepbx would be great if anyone besides a group of 3-4 people could actually support it`
`16:47.19`	`p1p`	`sicne thats not the case I would rather start over`
`16:47.25`	`mercestes`	`p1p: There is a good reason for that.`
`16:48.16`	`mercestes`	`pussfeller: I would say that hte CPU would only be one of your concerns, but hardware would be higher on your list of culprits than ulaw would be. Unless your running dialup or something silly.`
`16:48.52`	`pussfeller`	`its going from my sipura 2100 to a viop account`
`16:49.04`	`p1p`	`mercestes: theres a good reason for only a handful of people being able to support an open source project? Doesnt seem like there could be any excuse for that.`
`16:49.35`	`mercestes`	`p1p: There is a good reason why only a handfull of people support freepbx.`
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`16:50.07`	`p1p`	`ahhh I see where you are going with that`
`16:50.08`	`mercestes`	`pussfeller: ....why would you....blinks`
`16:50.20`	`mercestes`	`CPU -> Sipura -> voip provider?`
`16:50.41`	`*** join/#asterisk gluka (n=gluka@213.186.206.51)`
`16:50.53`	`mercestes`	`why?`
`16:51.14`	`mercestes`	`wait....`
`16:51.18`	`mercestes`	`I don't want to know.`
`16:51.39`	`mercestes`	`it shoudl work for that. codecs would be trivial but I would "sync" it up with whatever the sipura is using.`
`16:51.46`	`mercestes`	`avoid codec translation.`
`16:52.25`	`mercestes`	`Codecs themselves won't hurt you but codec translations in that nostalgic box would be killer.`
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`16:53.10`	`mercestes`	`and depending on what end of the sipura your plugging into your PC it might not matter anyways.`
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`16:56.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`A good guess is the fact that 99% of all pastebin's it users provide = 100% uselles cracp when you need 2 lines that show the real error`
`16:58.01`	`pussfeller`	`well mercestes`
`16:58.09`	`pussfeller`	`obviously, i dont really know what i am doing`
`16:58.38`	`robl^`	`pussfeller: it takes time. Asterisk has a bit of a learning curve.`
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`16:59.57`	`pussfeller`	`yeah this is the second time i have been using it`
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`17:02.41`	`Sline78`	`Hello all - I am trying to find out the power usage of a TDM400 with two FXS and two FXO modules. Looking to assenle a mini itx asterisk server but I need to make sure I provide enough power for the TDM400 board`
`17:03.22`	`mercestes`	`pussfeller: So are you really running cpu -> sipura -> voip provider??`
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`17:07.25`	`pussfeller`	`i dont know mercestes i need to watch a few calls and nail down whats all happening`
`17:07.56`	`pussfeller`	`the calls going thru my cheappie zap card are fine, its the viop calls that are choppy, and i have 125K + upload`
`17:08.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pussfeller : kbit? Thats close on ULAW.`
`17:08.56`	`pussfeller`	`no big K`
`17:09.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pussfeller : T1 almost?`
`17:09.19`	`pussfeller`	`its dsl`
`17:09.27`	`mercestes`	`it's kilobit.`
`17:09.31`	`mercestes`	`don't run voip over DSL.`
`17:09.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Indeed`
`17:09.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mercestes : No, VoIP over DSL is jsut fine. Over 12Xkbit is another matter :)`
`17:10.26`	`mercestes`	`[TK]D-Fender: Voip over DSL can be fine but it's very hit/miss on the network quality.`
`17:10.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mercestes : not in my experience (and I run it exclusively taht way at home. Also have remote users doing it at the office`
`17:11.03`	`pussfeller`	`i get like 1500KB per sec dls`
`17:11.08`	`mercestes`	`You have time of day factors, random lost packets, varying bandwidth availability, bad QoS...etc. etc. etc. etc.`
`17:11.19`	`Strom_M`	`pussfeller, what has your provider rated your DSL at`
`17:11.30`	`pussfeller`	`and my uploads are like 125KB per sec`
`17:11.39`	`mercestes`	`[TK]D-Fender: hm..where are you from?`
`17:11.47`	`shellshark`	`i've got 10Mbps/1Mbps cable service here... it's not too shabby :)`
`17:12.07`	`mercestes`	`'Round Tx we have about a 30% success rate on DSL and 50% success rate on cable for VoIP.`
`17:12.36`	`shellshark`	`mercestes: sounds like your setup is wrong ;)`
`17:12.44`	`pussfeller`	`Up to 10Mbps x 1Mpbs is what the ad says`
`17:12.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mercestes : Montreal, Qc`
`17:12.48`	`shellshark`	`mercestes: G.711 i take it? :)`
`17:13.17`	`pussfeller`	`skype is ussually fine`
`17:13.20`	`mercestes`	`shellshark: I've tried both g729 and g711.`
`17:13.23`	`robl^`	`I have 4.0Mbps symmetric multi-backbone connection at a colo`
`17:13.27`	`mercestes`	`what are you using?`
`17:13.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pussfeller : Thats definately the LOW end of DSL, and thats KBIT both ways. your upstream seriously sucks`
`17:13.41`	`shellshark`	`mercestes: is your main server running on a saturated 64kbps ISDN line or something?`
`17:13.47`	`pussfeller`	`i guess i am trying to figure out, do i wanna mess with compiling g729`
`17:13.55`	`Strom_M`	`pussfeller, please answer my question - what has your provider rated your DSL at`
`17:14.09`	`pussfeller`	`i did Strom_M`
`17:14.16`	`pussfeller`	`Up to 10Mbps x 1Mpbs`
`17:14.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pussfeller : ULAW will cost your about 85kbps of your 128. As long as you aren't using your connection for ANYTHING else it should do, but then,.... what a waste`
`17:14.54`	`Strom_M`	`pussfeller, umm...odd. do a speed test and tell us what your DSL actually tests at.`
`17:15.03`	`pussfeller`	`hmm, my sipura can send as 729 cant it`
`17:15.21`	`pussfeller`	`so, then the asterisk box doesn't have to do anything, right`
`17:15.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pussfeller : Yes, all the Sipura ATA's can go G.729`
`17:16.07`	`mercestes`	`shellshark: We were running g729 in and ulaw out and doing translations in the box, adn using it as a commercial switch. >.>`
`17:16.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pussfeller : However if * doesn't have G.729 support, it'll only work in passthrough, at which point, why bother with *? You won't be able to use it for much of anything else at that point.`
`17:16.48`	`Qwell[]`	`[TK]D-Fender: You could do a full IVR with g729 passthrough`
`17:17.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : If you did all recordings in G.729 somehow else, sure, but what are the odds?`
`17:17.54`	`Qwell[]`	`[TK]D-Fender: well, the standard prompts are downloadable in g729`
`17:18.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : Oh, did you happen upon the answer to the Digium * GUI's licence format?`
`17:18.03`	`Qwell[]`	`that's all some people really need`
`17:18.24`	`Qwell[]`	`[TK]D-Fender: no, not yet.. lemme figure out who to ask. Pari is the obvious choice, but I don't know if he knows..`
`17:18.27`	`Qwell[]`	`sec, I'll ask`
`17:19.07`	`Qwell[]`	`well, that was easy`
`17:19.15`	`Qwell[]`	`there are GPL headers in all of the html/js files`
`17:19.22`	`Qwell[]`	`so, there you have it`
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`17:23.36`	`mercestes`	`There you go then. GPL it is.`
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`17:23.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : Any idea when an FTP release will be out? my SVN is broken.`
`17:23.56`	`Qwell[]`	`no clue - probably not for a while`
`17:24.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Ugh. DOCS are sparse... no list of pre-req's, etc...`
`17:24.18`	`Qwell[]`	`it still isn't even technically beta`
`17:24.26`	`Qwell[]`	`afaik anyhow`
`17:24.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell[] : Then I guess I'm best off not touching it at all... Also needs 1.4 which has issues for Polycom as well.... dangit`
`17:25.04`	`Qwell[]`	`polycom issues?`
`17:26.09`	`robl^`	`hint support is screwy with polycoms / snoms. only works if you use peers / and call-limit`
`17:26.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : Presence, and another thing or two due to restructuring of chan_sip. Don't know much by way of details, just other users recountings.`
`17:27.04`	`iCEBrkr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:27.08`	`iCEBrkr`	`Ok, what the hell did I do wrong?`
`17:27.17`	`Qwell[]`	`oh, yeah, use call-limit, or something`
`17:27.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : need to set "host=dynamic", not with set IP.`
`17:27.30`	`iCEBrkr`	`hrrm`
`17:27.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : or domain`
`17:27.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`lemme go se`
`17:27.37`	`iCEBrkr`	`err see`
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`17:32.58`	`gambolputty`	`Hi. Is it possible with * in the middle of a call to transfer a call to an extension that plays a prerecorded message, then at the end of the message, reconnect the two callers?`
`17:37.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`gambolputty : features.conf .....`
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`17:40.57`	`edgarin`	`Hi people`
`17:41.02`	`edgarin`	`the problem of the music on hold`
`17:41.03`	`sevard`	`hellopartypeople`
`17:41.07`	`edgarin`	`is solutionated!`
`17:41.19`	`edgarin`	`but now the music on hold have another problem`
`17:41.29`	`edgarin`	`the music is only listened in the server`
`17:41.32`	`edgarin`	`no on the client`
`17:42.06`	`sevard`	`wtf.`
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`17:45.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`r00000000000t`
`17:46.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`HACKhackHACKhackHACKhackHACKhackHACKhackHACKhackHACKhackHACKhack`
`17:47.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`(words can barely express the risks of IRC-ing as root, but the above gives a rather abrupt idea)`
`17:47.37`	`gambolputty`	`fender: I don't think call parking is what I had in mind.`
`17:48.01`	`Qwell[]`	`~root`
`17:48.03`	`jbot`	`[root] not a Good Thing to use when using IRC. Please use a different account. You will probably not be able to speak until change your user account.`
`17:48.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`gambolputty : Dynamic features....... keep reading.`
`17:48.51`	`edgarin`	`[TK]D-Fender, you remember my problem with the mpg123 and the music on hold?`
`17:49.10`	`sevard`	`[TK]D-Fender: Yup, you've lost it.`
`17:49.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`edgarin : Yes, and when you show us some details of your new problem perhaps we can help you with that too.`
`17:50.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:O`
`17:51.23`	`pussfeller`	`ok, i set my ata to only use g729, the calls are gong out, but i keep getting all circuits are busy`
`17:51.38`	`pussfeller`	`is that caller id, or provider congestion`
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`17:51.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sniff my "green" Christmas has been abruptly cancelled :(`
`17:52.05`	`edgarin`	`ok`
`17:52.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pussfeller : pastebin.....`
`17:52.40`	`pussfeller`	`what should i paste`
`17:53.24`	`edgarin`	`the problem is. when I call from extension 22222 to the extension 99999, two extesions are comunicated but when the extension 22222 put in hold the call with the extension 99999, the music on hold is activated but in the extension 99999 no listen nothing`
`17:53.30`	`iCEBrkr`	`grrr`
`17:53.30`	`edgarin`	`and the music is played in the server`
`17:53.35`	`edgarin`	`only in the server`
`17:53.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pussfeller : something USEFUL like maybe the CLI output highlighting your error, etc.... config samples. use your imagination.`
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`17:54.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`OK, I had some stuff mixed up.. So now, my 'master' server is spewing "peer is not dynamic" and of course have dynamic=the.ip.of.slave`
`17:54.10`	`iCEBrkr`	`err`
`17:54.10`	`iCEBrkr`	`host= even`
`17:54.28`	`russellb`	`that's not dynamic, then`
`17:54.32`	`russellb`	`:)`
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`17:54.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : I said "host=dynamic". Pay attention....`
`17:54.48`	`Zhad`	`do you have the slave still registering with it?`
`17:55.02`	`iCEBrkr`	`[TK]D-Fender: nono, the 'slave' has a static IP.`
`17:55.04`	`pussfeller`	`[TK]D-Fender: well, i see something immd prior to it destoying the iax2 channel about receiving a hangup...?`
`17:55.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pussfeller : Thats not helpful.....`
`17:55.33`	`iCEBrkr`	`I'm having the 'slave' register with a NAT'd 'master' :-/ I should flip this shit around.`
`17:55.40`	`iCEBrkr`	`But IAX should work.`
`17:55.48`	`edgarin`	`[TK]D-Fender. many ideas?`
`17:56.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`So I have a registry entry on the slave and a [username] on the master. I think I'm having some iptables issues I'll have to work out later`
`17:56.44`	`Zhad`	`why are you using SIP for this anyway?`
`17:57.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`Zhad: you talking to me?`
`17:57.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`edgarin : You haven't told us anything useful about your problem either. no config samples, CLI output, proof that you're running the right version of MPG123, proof that there are MoH files there tobe played in the first place. NOTHING`
`17:57.26`	`iCEBrkr`	`Zhad: I don't want to use SIP as SIP won't traverse NAT`
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`17:57.44`	`Zhad`	`sorry, misread.`
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`17:58.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`I'm trying to make it so I can use a softphone from 'remote' The only way I can get 'into' my primary Asterisk box is to have an exteral Asterisk box which talks IAX to the 'primary' one`
`17:58.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : I run * in double NAT'd scenarios just fine....`
`17:59.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`[TK]D-Fender: with IAX though, right?`
`17:59.44`	`iCEBrkr`	`All I have is my dinky little Belkin router.. I can't get all fancy with routing rules and such`
`17:59.53`	`edgarin`	`[TK]D-Fender, ok sorry, see this: http://pastebin.com/845224`
`18:00.18`	`pussfeller`	`hmm that went thru`
`18:00.24`	`pussfeller`	`strange`
`18:00.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`Zhad: Odd. I'm using a SPA-2k with-- oh nevermind.. I'm still 1.2.x`
`18:00.53`	`Zhad`	`iCE> weird innit, between 1.4.0b2 and 1.4.0 release.`
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`18:01.01`	`Zhad`	`no errors on the console.`
`18:01.10`	`frod`	`hello all`
`18:01.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`edgarin : I have no experience with madplay, sorry....`
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`18:01.27`	`edgarin`	`ok thanks!!`
`18:01.37`	`frod`	`any one knows where can i find the diferences between 1.2 and 1.4`
`18:01.50`	`iCEBrkr`	`who barfed on www.asterisk.org?`
`18:01.54`	`Qwell[]`	`frod: in the ChangeLog and UPGRADE.txt file`
`18:02.19`	`Zhad`	`oh, calls out fine.`
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`18:04.27`	`oliver__`	`is it possible to send a call in another context regarding the incoming number?`
`18:04.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`oliver__ : yes`
`18:04.54`	`oliver__`	`sounds good, thx :)`
`18:04.55`	`oliver__`	`cYA`
`18:05.18`	`iCEBrkr`	`I really need to sit down and rewrite this damn extensions.conf`
`18:05.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`A shitstorm went through this thing`
`18:05.39`	`Zhad`	`:-)`
`18:06.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`Thing is.. Everything has just been working. I don't tinker with anything anymore`
`18:06.24`	`Zhad`	`asterisk-gui tidies up your extensions.conf (whether you want it to or not).`
`18:06.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`But now I want to run a softphone from my laptop when I'm traveling.`
`18:07.09`	`robl^`	`I have spent the better part of a week re-writing my extensions from scratch. it's a.. umm.. fun process`
`18:07.34`	`iCEBrkr`	`Zhad: Naa, I just have stuff in here that doesn't work anymore. I've dumped the DIDs and such. I have providers in here that I don't use anymore, etc, etc.. and a BUNCH of test code.`
`18:07.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robl^ : Indeed. I'l linked in to about 6+ different systems, and it was a worthwhile thing to redo the useless bits.`
`18:07.56`	`iCEBrkr`	`My 'custom' *69 doesn't want to work. I should fix it`
`18:08.23`	`Zhad`	`iCE> sounds familiar, I use my home setup to test all sorts of weird stuff.`
`18:08.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`and I need to rewrite the CID stuff that gets sent to the handset so I can use my redial button.`
`18:08.39`	`iCEBrkr`	`CID comes through without a 1+ACN`
`18:09.02`	`iCEBrkr`	`Or I could just fix the dialplan so it doesn't require me to dial 1 prior.`
`18:09.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : Or change your dialplan to add it for you.`
`18:09.22`	`iCEBrkr`	`yeah`
`18:09.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : I prefer the latter`
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`18:09.43`	`Zhad`	`hmm, I think it may be the`
`18:09.48`	`Zhad`	`G.729 codec.`
`18:10.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr : my system does 7-10-11 digit dialing seamlessly. I'm going to expand it so it can know when to add the "1" for 10 digit dialing outside my area code as well.`
`18:10.13`	`Zhad`	`for some reason the ata is introducing the call as a 711`
`18:10.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`[TK]D-Fender: haha, I was just thinking about that.. Make it do a lookup to figure out what needs to get done.`
`18:10.43`	`iCEBrkr`	`Zhad: It wants a slushy.`
`18:11.22`	`iCEBrkr`	`Hrrm, maybe tonight after work, I'll muck with this.`
`18:11.28`	`iCEBrkr`	`It's still spewing Peer 'chrome' is not dynamic`
`18:11.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`No shit.`
`18:13.26`	`iCEBrkr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:13.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`um`
`18:13.36`	`iCEBrkr`	`Speaking of modules to unload.`
`18:14.05`	`Zhad`	`sounds curious, what is format_jpg used for`
`18:14.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`video format`
`18:14.27`	`iCEBrkr`	`My guess would be for some sort of video conferencing type shit`
`18:14.28`	`Zhad`	`like MJPG?`
`18:14.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`yup`
`18:14.47`	`file`	`you can send images over IAX2`
`18:14.59`	`Qwell[]`	`file: SIP too, now?`
`18:15.02`	`Qwell[]`	`no*`
`18:15.22`	`file`	`Qwell[]: in some twisted way probably`
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`18:16.13`	`toxap`	`Hello`
`18:17.32`	`toxap`	`Who work with mISDN??`
`18:17.58`	`toxap`	`I have a problem this him`
`18:19.12`	`toxap`	`How to config him??`
`18:19.26`	`toxap`	`Help me please`
`18:20.38`	`Zhad`	`It appears to be the G.729 codec at fault.`
`18:20.49`	`Zhad`	`if I unload it, the 3pa3k wont even ring`
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`18:20.57`	`Zhad`	`s/3pa/spa/;`
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`18:21.35`	`Zhad`	`I have tried the i386, i586, i686 and P3m versions (Dual Copppermine P-III machine).`
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`18:26.22`	`TheCops`	`hi`
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`18:39.27`	`Stevesy`	`ManxPower u there?`
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`18:58.55`	`s34n`	`I got a shipment of 10 snom360 phones. The MAC addresses are sequential and they appear to be identical in every respect.`
`18:59.09`	`s34n`	`I configured them with the same setting file.`
`18:59.20`	`s34n`	`But they each act different in wierd ways.`
`18:59.48`	`mercestes`	`s34n: Elaboration.`
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`18:59.57`	`bkruse`	`s34n: thats snom`
`18:59.58`	`bkruse`	`:P`
`19:00.32`	`gambolputty`	`maybe upgrade the snom firmware?`
`19:00.47`	`s34n`	`the dialplan autodials on some, but waits for confirmation on some.`
`19:01.10`	`s34n`	`the message button works on some, but not on others`
`19:01.16`	`s34n`	`all with identical firmware`
`19:01.30`	`s34n`	`the latest firmware`
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`19:02.03`	`s34n`	`the phone icon next to the station name looks different on the different phones`
`19:02.11`	`s34n`	`some are solid, some hollow, etc.`
`19:02.37`	`s34n`	`bkruse: why do you say, "thats snom"?`
`19:03.18`	`mercestes`	`s34n: When you say some are hollow, some are solid, "etc." Is there really an "etc" or is that pretty much the two variances in the phone icons.`
`19:04.12`	`s34n`	`mercestes: also an "X" inside the phone`
`19:04.48`	`mercestes`	`I think that perhaps some of your phones are being configured, and others are not.`
`19:05.10`	`mercestes`	`Check your ftp/sftp/tftp/http settings, and also check your file permissions on your config files, and check for typoes in your configs.`
`19:05.49`	`s34n`	`I've gone through each and "Reset Values" then it reboots, and pulls them again from the setting file.`
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`19:06.15`	`s34n`	`It is definately picking them up from the setting file.`
`19:06.22`	`bkruse`	`s34n: im just playing around ,i love snom`
`19:07.09`	`mercestes`	`by "the setting file." Are you telling me you have one setting file for all your phones?`
`19:07.36`	`s34n`	`one core file for all phones`
`19:07.58`	`s34n`	`then another file per phone with the username, pw, etc fro that phone`
`19:08.00`	`mercestes`	`Then the settings are wrong in your phones then.`
`19:08.31`	`s34n`	`but all the settings that are misbehaving are in the single core file.`
`19:08.44`	`mercestes`	`then call sonoma and ask for a refund.`
`19:09.22`	`mercestes`	`if the file is correct and there isn't a permissions issue or an authentication issue or a settings issue and the phones are clearly in error then you need an RMA we can't give you.`
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`19:11.46`	`Strom_C`	`how do you get "sonoma" from "snom"?`
`19:12.07`	`Sauron	`Strom: soundex?`
`19:12.44`	`Qwell[]`	`pseudo-soundex > all`
`19:12.48`	`mercestes`	`Strom_C: lol..I dunno.`
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`19:14.56`	`Sauron	`Hmm.`
`19:15.02`	`Sauron	`Anyone know why I'm getting this error:`
`19:15.09`	`Sauron	`[Dec 26 13:14:48] NOTICE[16267]: chan_sip.c:13178 handle_request_invite: Unable to create/find SIP channel for this INVITE`
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`19:15.22`	`Cherebrum`	`Hmmm.... Anyone know if a prepaid GSM sim card from Cingular will let you call 911 if it is out of minutes?`
`19:15.36`	`Qwell[]`	`Cherebrum: yes`
`19:15.40`	`Qwell[]`	`BUT`
`19:15.41`	`Sauron	`Cherebrum: All gsm phones should allow emergency calls`
`19:15.45`	`Sauron	`with or without a sim.`
`19:15.59`	`Qwell[]`	`There are some things that they can do to make it not work, like claim that you were out of range, or some stupid crap like that`
`19:16.05`	`mitcheloc`	`Qwell[]: is that your profile with the hacker symbol?`
`19:16.09`	`Qwell[]`	`legally though, yes, you always can call 911 on any type of line, no matter what`
`19:16.13`	`Qwell[]`	`mitcheloc: :D`
`19:16.14`	`Cherebrum`	`well.. I have a GSM sip gateway... and I was thinking about putting this prepaid SIM card in it with no minutes and use it just to route 911 calls for an emergency`
`19:16.40`	`Strom_C`	`mobile 911 blows`
`19:16.42`	`mitcheloc`	`Qwell[]: i figured, put up a real picture! =P`
`19:16.42`	`Strom_C`	`it really does`
`19:16.46`	`Qwell[]`	`pfft`
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`19:16.50`	`Strom_C`	`given the choice, I'd much rather have landline 911`
`19:16.58`	`Qwell[]`	`Strom_C: as opposed to the "suck" method of landlines?`
`19:17.00`	`Cherebrum`	`I don't have a landline`
`19:17.18`	`Strom_C`	`hey, at least landline 911 answers immediately`
`19:17.36`	`Qwell[]`	`In Riverside, they outsource 911 to India`
`19:18.03`	`Strom_C`	`mobile 911 had me wait on hold for a minute one time when I reported a car accident on the 710`
`19:18.07`	`Qwell[]`	`Strom_C: yeah, me too - they also transferred me to the local dept`
`19:18.18`	`linagee`	`Strom_C: of course. 911 sucks`
`19:18.23`	`Cherebrum`	`I called 911 when some crazy bitch ran a light and hit me and a bunch of other cars and 911 was busy`
`19:18.30`	`Qwell[]`	`I called with a 951 areacode, and got the...you guessed it...951 operator`
`19:18.34`	`Cherebrum`	`2nd time was busy too`
`19:18.38`	`Cherebrum`	`I finally go thru`
`19:18.48`	`Strom_C`	`linagee: no, only mobile 911 sucks - landline 911 has /always/ answered immediately every time I've tested it`
`19:18.51`	`linagee`	`Strom_C: they should be completely automated. "please press one to have us triangulate your position." -1- "please press -1- for firetruck, -2- for police, etc`
`19:19.16`	`Qwell[]`	`"Welcome to movie phone (now supporting 911 emergency calls)"`
`19:19.16`	`linagee`	`Strom_C: and then have some computer program page the nearest unit to respond`
`19:19.22`	`mitcheloc`	`what if your fingers are broken?`
`19:19.25`	`Qwell[]`	`"To locate a theatre, press 1"`
`19:19.25`	`mitcheloc`	`i suppose that would hurt then.`
`19:19.25`	`linagee`	`Strom_C: with blackberries so they get all the details`
`19:19.36`	`Qwell[]`	`"To report an emergency related to a movie theatre, press 2"`
`19:19.45`	`Qwell[]`	`"For all other callers, please dial 349"`
`19:19.46`	`Cherebrum`	`How do you dial 911 if your fingers a broken?`
`19:19.50`	`linagee`	`mitcheloc: if your fingers are broken, please wait on the line while we do our default extension. ;)`
`19:19.55`	`Strom_C`	`"If the film has melted in the projector, press 3"`
`19:20.07`	`Strom_C`	`"If you are choking on popcorn, press 4"`
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`19:20.17`	`linagee`	`Strom_C: lol`
`19:20.18`	`Qwell[]`	`mitcheloc: You can mash 9 on many mobile phones`
`19:20.31`	`mitcheloc`	`I think this would be my favorite one: "If you do not speak English press 5"`
`19:20.44`	`Qwell[]`	`mitcheloc: ha, I heard something like that once`
`19:20.47`	`linagee`	`Qwell: "we're sorry. the hands you have used to dial are too fat. to obtain a special dialing wand..."`
`19:20.51`	`linagee`	`Qwell: (simpsons?)`
`19:20.52`	`Qwell[]`	`linagee: :D`
`19:21.36`	`robl^`	`"If you paid to watch a Disney film, but ended up in a theatre viewing an X-Rated film by mistake, press 9"`
`19:22.01`	`linagee`	`Strom_C: oh oh. what would be nice too is an estimated eta. how hard is it for a computer to do the route planning and such? message to people to respond, 1 minute to transfer. time for people to take off in their responding car, 3 minutes max, etc.`
`19:22.15`	`mitcheloc`	`"If you are glad christmas is over, press 1"`
`19:22.44`	`sevard`	`"If you think the IVR joke has gone on too long and is totally dead, press 3.6"`
`19:22.52`	`mitcheloc`	`3*6`
`19:22.58`	`linagee`	`mitcheloc: if you got what you wanted, please press 0 to speak to our operators (in india) so we can take down your address and come and steal your stuff"`
`19:23.00`	`Qwell[]`	`bah...`
`19:23.03`	`robl^`	`"I'm sorry, but that is not a valid response. Christmas season is now beginning (again) at a mall near you... "`
`19:23.06`	`Strom_C`	`sevard: IVR jokes NEVER get old`
`19:23.09`	`Qwell[]`	`3*6 == 3<space>6 on my phone`
`19:23.11`	`sevard`	`they so do.`
`19:23.21`	`Qwell[]`	`# is . or something stupid`
`19:23.29`	`mitcheloc`	`* is .!!!!!!!!!!!!!`
`19:23.31`	`hi365`	`anyone using sangoma cars with bezeq?`
`19:23.33`	`Qwell[]`	`There is no "I'm done dialing this letter, go on to the next" key :(`
`19:23.42`	`*** part/#asterisk Cherebrum (n=jgarland@pdpc/supporter/base/Cherebrum)`
`19:23.44`	`Qwell[]`	`you either have to wait or press *<delete>`
`19:24.07`	`linagee`	`lol. "if you want to go to the next prompt, press any key to continue"`
`19:24.41`	`robl^`	`hrmm.. do I order more IP phones or by a new mac? decisions, decisions...`
`19:24.57`	`linagee`	`robl^: ip phones make perfect stocking stuffers`
`19:25.03`	`sevard`	`"if you would like to cancel, press any key, if you would like to continue, press 3"`
`19:25.13`	`linagee`	`:)`
`19:25.30`	`Strom_C`	`if you are calling from a rotary phone, please press 5`
`19:25.35`	`robl^`	`linagee: true.. but I have 11.8 months left to get stocking stuffers`
`19:25.44`	`Qwell[]`	`Strom_C: my rotary can dtmf through the iaxy :p`
`19:25.49`	`Qwell[]`	`That == awesome`
`19:25.52`	`Strom_C`	`Qwell[]: exactly`
`19:25.54`	`linagee`	`Strom_C: if you are calling from a rotary phone, please wait until we time out and hang up on you"`
`19:26.07`	`robl^`	`nahh.. "If you are calling from a rotary phone, please make a noise that sounds like you pressed 5."`
`19:26.36`	`linagee`	`"if you are calling from a rotary phone, please throw it away and get a better one"`
`19:27.04`	`pussfeller`	`ok, im getting chan_iax2.c: Call rejected by <voip ip> : No such context/`
`19:27.04`	`pussfeller`	`extension`
`19:27.12`	`Strom_C`	`don't you go insulting my rotary phone :)`
`19:27.15`	`pussfeller`	`whats that mean`
`19:27.17`	`linagee`	`:)`
`19:27.32`	`linagee`	`Strom_C: what did you get for christmas?`
`19:28.01`	`Strom_C`	`I don't celebrate christmas`
`19:28.12`	`robl^`	`I want a 500 style handset for my blackberry`
`19:28.45`	`mitcheloc`	`oh, kram is idling in here, poke poke`
`19:29.06`	`luke-jr_work`	`argh, wtf is tollfreegateway.com?`
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`19:30.29`	`TheCops`	`I can dial on a FXO line without problem, but when it have voicemail and receiving stutter tone from telco, I can't dial anymore, it forget number or it give me the stutter tone, someone have an idea^`
`19:30.57`	`mitcheloc`	`turn off the voicemail from your telco?`
`19:31.10`	`TheCops`	`mitcheloc, I need that voicemail :)`
`19:31.10`	`linagee`	`TheCops: "when you have voicemail" = from asterisk?`
`19:31.20`	`TheCops`	`nop from telco`
`19:31.20`	`linagee`	`TheCops: asterisk has voicemail too. :p`
`19:31.33`	`robl^`	`asterisk has voicemail!?!!?!?`
`19:31.38`	`linagee`	`or mayeb it doesn't`
`19:31.39`	`Strom_C`	`you have asterisk now. why are you paying the telco for voicemail?!`
`19:31.41`	`TheCops`	`linagee, yup but it dont answer if the line is busy`
`19:31.43`	`TheCops`	`telco can`
`19:31.44`	`linagee`	`maybe i just use freepbx too much. :)`
`19:31.49`	`Strom_C`	`robl^: asterisk does telephones too now!`
`19:32.11`	`TheCops`	`that's why I'm using voicemail from telco`
`19:32.20`	`linagee`	`why, again?`
`19:32.36`	`TheCops`	`voicemail of Asterisk can't answer a busy line to take the message :)`
`19:32.39`	`TheCops`	`telco can`
`19:32.39`	`robl^`	`should I try a polycom phone? I have / had Aastra, Snom, Cisco, Grandstream...`
`19:32.55`	`linagee`	`TheCops: use a DID from a real provider`
`19:33.10`	`TheCops`	`robl^, pretty well phone, I have a setup of 17 phone`
`19:33.10`	`linagee`	`TheCops: they don't provide busy call forwarding?`
`19:33.46`	`TheCops`	`linagee, I don't know, I need to verify, but busy on call forward and redirecting on another line is the same thing to buy another line.`
`19:34.31`	`linagee`	`TheCops: scrap the land line and port the DID to a real provider. then reactivate the line for emergency dialout`
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`19:34.51`	`TheCops`	`linagee, you mean pure voip line?`
`19:35.01`	`linagee`	`TheCops: "pure" = ?`
`19:35.27`	`linagee`	`mmm, 100% pure voip. tastes just like mom used to make.`
`19:35.29`	`mitcheloc`	`asterisk 1.4 released?!`
`19:35.31`	`TheCops`	`linagee, land line are more stable then a voip DID`
`19:35.32`	`mitcheloc`	`i missed the mom heh`
`19:35.34`	`mitcheloc`	`*memo`
`19:35.53`	`linagee`	`TheCops: so have it fail over to dial your landline on the voip provider side`
`19:36.27`	`linagee`	`mitcheloc: freudian slip?`
`19:36.54`	`TheCops`	`linagee, I don't really want to modify the line map, I only want to dial on a line that have stutter tone :) If possible.`
`19:38.32`	`robl^`	`or is that a freudian SIP?`
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`19:38.56`	`linagee`	`robl^: freudian PPP`
`19:39.22`	`mercestes`	`freudian with multiple user connetions? ew...`
`19:39.40`	`mercestes`	`sounds kind of Jungian to me.`
`19:39.48`	`Zhad`	`mitcheloc> yeah, but it doesn't seem to work with the digium G.729 codec (here anyway).`
`19:40.00`	`luke-jr_work`	`are there any FXS cards/devices that don't have issues with ring/hangup detection?`
`19:40.14`	`mercestes`	`No, they all have issues with ring/hangup detection.`
`19:40.22`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: why?`
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`19:40.44`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: it was dictated in the communist manufesto.`
`19:41.05`	`mercestes`	`it's to prevent telemarketing.`
`19:41.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : Never had a problem on any FXS interface I've ever encountered....`
`19:41.38`	`Zhad`	`luke> you generally need to configure them to the type of exchange you are connecting them to.`
`19:41.49`	`Zhad`	`os sorry, FXS.`
`19:41.49`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: Which fxs interface are you having ring/hangup detection with??`
`19:42.15`	`Zhad`	`cyl mitcheloc`
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`19:43.20`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: none, but I've heard here that none really do hangup/ring detection`
`19:44.08`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: You've also heard that none have ring/hangup detection issues as well.`
`19:44.18`	`luke-jr_work`	`only in this current conversation`
`19:44.23`	`mercestes`	`from several people`
`19:44.41`	`luke-jr_work`	`so they can all detect ringing and hangup situations fine?`
`19:44.46`	`luke-jr_work`	`including modems?`
`19:44.51`	`mercestes`	`wel,l I can't vouch for myself but D-Fender usually knows what he's talking about.`
`19:45.02`	`mercestes`	`Except for that Voip on DSL thing, but...we all can't be right all the time.`
`19:45.21`	`luke-jr_work`	`heh`
`19:46.26`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: What are you trying to do and waht is your fear? If you don't have any fxs devices failing now, I am guessing you are looking at purchasing some and would like a suggestion??`
`19:46.46`	`fran`	`how can i join two channels ?`
`19:46.51`	`pussfeller`	`bwetween the 2 of you i think i have it nailed down mercestes and defender`
`19:46.53`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: sure; my fear is just that I've always heard here before that they have issues w/ hangup and ring detection`
`19:46.56`	`pussfeller`	`thanks`
`19:47.11`	`mercestes`	`fran: join one at a time. /j #asterisk and then /j #gentoo`
`19:47.14`	`luke-jr_work`	`the Digium stuff is all expensive, though`
`19:47.33`	`fran`	`mercestes, i want to join two SIP/ channels`
`19:47.59`	`mercestes`	`mercestes: that usually happens under the hood as part of a "dial" unless you are referring to a "barge."`
`19:48.14`	`mercestes`	`.... why thank you, Mercestes. that was the answer I was looking for.`
`19:48.18`	`mercestes`	`sighs I need more caffeine.`
`19:48.21`	`mercestes`	`I'm batting 0.`
`19:48.37`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: It's worth the money. Sangoma makes nice stuff too.`
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`19:49.24`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: heh, my only experience w/ Sangoma has had major quality issues`
`19:49.51`	`luke-jr_work`	`how is it worth the money if anything works? :)`
`19:50.07`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: I've had nothing but luck with sangoma.`
`19:50.08`	`bkruse`	`digium for life.`
`19:50.20`	`bkruse`	`mercestes: luck is exactly what you had`
`19:50.22`	`bkruse`	`:P`
`19:50.42`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: well, this particular card is connected to 3 FXS merged into a T1 to get to the card`
`19:52.43`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: I thought you didn't have an fxs card.`
`19:52.50`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: Does it have ring/hangup detection issues?`
`19:53.11`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: it's a T1 card`
`19:53.14`	`bkruse`	`:]`
`19:53.29`	`luke-jr_work`	`it doesn't detect ring/hangup at all`
`19:54.07`	`TheCops`	`There's someone have problem dialing on a line that have stutter tone (SIP<>Asterisk<>R1T1<>CB<>FXO) ?`
`19:54.21`	`Sauron	`Does anyone know why I'm getting the following error for an incoming sip connection?`
`19:54.28`	`Sauron	`[Dec 26 13:14:48] NOTICE[16267]: chan_sip.c:13178 handle_request_invite: Unable to create/find SIP channel for this INVIT`
`19:54.46`	`mercestes`	`Sauron: I'm guessing the sip device is not registered or is unreachable.
`19:54.51`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: oh.....`
`19:55.10`	`Sauron	`I should be registered on that connection`
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`19:55.19`	`mercestes`	`Sauron: I agree.
`19:55.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Why is it that you actually want a PCI FXS card?`
`19:56.10`	`TheCops`	`Hi fender`
`19:56.11`	`TheCops`	`:)`
`19:56.13`	`luke-jr_work`	`[TK]D-Fender: landline`
`19:56.23`	`TheCops`	`#server -m us.undernet.org`
`19:56.25`	`TheCops`	`oops`
`19:56.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : that would be FXO then.`
`19:56.32`	`luke-jr_work`	`eh? it would?`
`19:56.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TheCops : y0`
`19:56.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : Yes`
`19:56.46`	`luke-jr_work`	`FXO = office; FXS = subscriber...`
`19:57.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : And yours is 1 of the only 2 bad encounters I've ever heard of with Sangoma cards.`
`19:57.48`	`luke-jr_work`	`[TK]D-Fender: I doubt it's the card, honestly, but that's the only experience I've had with them`
`19:58.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : how many ports do you need?`
`19:58.09`	`luke-jr_work`	`[TK]D-Fender: 1`
`19:58.22`	`fran`	`is there any agi or app to do a chat line ?`
`19:58.24`	`luke-jr_work`	`oh, for the Sangoma system or the one I'm working on now?`
`19:58.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : You could give the SPA-3XXX series a shot. I was faily ahppy with mine.`
`19:58.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`fran : TOYWY`
`19:58.50`	`luke-jr_work`	`I suppose, but then there's proprietary software in the loop, and less Asterisk deals with`
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`19:59.47`	`luke-jr_work`	`and IIRC SPA-3XXX cost more than simple winmodems :p`
`20:00.42`	`mercestes`	`must go to meeting...l8r`
`20:01.01`	`Sauron	`anyone around who has * working with broadvoice?`
`20:01.20`	`Sauron	`I'm wondering what all changes I have to update for from 1.0.3 to my current version.. :)`
`20:01.33`	`Sauron	`1.4`
`20:01.39`	`fran`	`[TK]D-Fender, whats TOYWY ?`
`20:01.42`	`luke-jr_work`	`rofl`
`20:01.48`	`Sauron	`As in`
`20:01.48`	`luke-jr_work`	`why are you using 1.0?`
`20:02.06`	`Sauron	`I don't actually remember what version I was on`
`20:02.10`	`Sauron	`I'm on 1.4b2 right now`
`20:02.21`	`Sauron	`cuz I hadn't updated in a few weeks`
`20:02.39`	`Sauron	`but I've got everything working 'cept incoming calls through BV`
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`20:08.14`	`[Outcast]`	`Romeo = spammer, ban if you can , gline who be better`
`20:08.45`	`[Outcast]`	`s/who/would`
`20:10.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~toywy`
`20:10.20`	`jbot`	`from memory, toywy is The one you write yourself.`
`20:10.35`	`fran`	`lol`
`20:10.51`	`fran`	`of course im writing it. i only want to see how it is implemented,`
`20:11.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : Then you need to get yourself an FXO Interface Lottery card!`
`20:11.16`	`luke-jr_work`	`...`
`20:11.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`fran : Go write it and look all you want!`
`20:11.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : Translation : Stop being such a cheap bastard and Just Do It.`
`20:12.13`	`luke-jr_work`	`[TK]D-Fender: right... it's "cheap" to expect a reasonable price`
`20:12.23`	`fran`	`[TK]D-Fender, i cant figure out how to join two channels,`
`20:12.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : I must have missed your nomination to the "Detimination of reasonable Costs" board....`
`20:12.52`	`luke-jr_work`	`so why do I want a FXO to connect to a landline?`
`20:13.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : You tell me.... you're the one who said you wanted to do this in the first place...`
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`20:13.43`	`fran`	`[TK]D-Fender, is it good to create a conference room for each conversation ?`
`20:13.44`	`luke-jr_work`	`with a FXS`
`20:13.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`fran : Depends`
`20:14.26`	`fran`	`on what ?`
`20:14.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : You are getting yourself all mixed up. you need an FXo interface to use a landlane. FXS is for you to plug a PHONE into.`
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`20:14.47`	`kako`	`Buenas`
`20:14.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`fran : on a lot of things. If you have to ask, you haven't given the available options a good enough looking at`
`20:15.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~fxofxs`
`20:15.07`	`jbot`	`[fxofxs] An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage, you plug a phone LINE into this. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage, you plug a PHONE into this.`
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`20:15.52`	`kako`	`Line = FXO`
`20:15.56`	`kako`	`Phone = FXS`
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`20:16.06`	`kako`	`Done.`
`20:16.10`	`fran`	`[TK]D-Fender, the problem is that i dont know the available options, so if you tellme what are they..`
`20:16.51`	`kako`	`fran, google`
`20:17.00`	`brookshire`	`http://www.digg.com/software/Asterisk_1_4_0_released <-- digg it please :)`
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`20:19.34`	`naitram`	`how do you get asterisk to perform two scripts for a particular entry in extensions.conf, ie... 101,1,Dial() and 101,2,System(echo hello > hello.txt)`
`20:19.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`fran : app_dial, app_conference, app_meetme, etc. Go read the WIKi and sites hosting alternative apps`
`20:20.14`	`luke-jr_work`	`[TK]D-Fender: $401 isn't reasonable for connecting a landline to *`
`20:20.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`brookshire : Why don't you jsut ask us to DoS www.asterisk.org and simplify our lives? ;)`
`20:20.47`	`Strom_C`	`luke-jr_work: where the hell are you getting $401 from? the TDM01B is like $125 ish`
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`20:21.04`	`luke-jr_work`	`Strom_C: http://www.digium.com/en/wheretobuy/digiumdirect/productview.php?product_code=RTDM22B`
`20:21.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : A Digium or Sangoma card need not run over $200, and the SPA's go for about 90$`
`20:21.24`	`Strom_C`	`luke-jr_work: that's with two FXO and two FXS interfaces`
`20:21.26`	`luke-jr_work`	`I don't see TDM01B in Digium's store`
`20:21.28`	`Strom_C`	`do you need all that?`
`20:21.33`	`Strom_C`	`luke-jr_work: go through a reseller`
`20:21.36`	`luke-jr_work`	`Strom_C: and Digium doesn't sell anything less that i can see`
`20:21.40`	`Strom_C`	`luke-jr_work: go through a reseller`
`20:21.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : And only 1 store in the world sells Dentyne gum!`
`20:21.46`	`luke-jr_work`	`such as?`
`20:21.56`	`Strom_C`	`voipconnection.com, telephonydepot.com...`
`20:22.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : Holy shit, wake up and go check the retailers list!`
`20:22.02`	`Strom_C`	`i could go on and on`
`20:22.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`www.atacomm.com , www.voipdepot.ca , www.voxilla.com , yadda yadda`
`20:22.47`	`luke-jr_work`	`there's a list?`
`20:22.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : huge one on the WIKI.`
`20:23.20`	`naitram`	`does asterisk execute 1 and only 1 script for a particular number in the extensions.conf file?`
`20:23.54`	`ftexcom`	`damn`
`20:23.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`naitram : If processes it 1 step at a time for any call in or out.`
`20:24.06`	`ftexcom`	`I can't seem to find the god damn genzaptelconf`
`20:24.26`	`luke-jr_work`	`in other words, avoid Digium's site to buy Digium stuff? :p`
`20:24.52`	`naitram`	`[TK]D-Fender: and if it finds one that matches? it does not execute any more that match?`
`20:24.57`	`brookshire`	`yes.. digium's site is retail`
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`20:25.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`naitram : No. You need to go read the BOOK.`
`20:25.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~book`
`20:25.28`	`jbot`	`from memory, book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`20:25.28`	`brookshire`	`other sites sell it for less`
`20:25.55`	`bcnl`	`so since there isn't a abridged Changelog that I have found yet, can anyone summ up what's new in 1.4 and is there a reason to move to it ATM?`
`20:26.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : Ever bought a car direct from the manufacturer? Odds are they don't want to deal with you, or you'll pick up the tab for their not being cost effective at doing so.`
`20:26.37`	`luke-jr_work`	`btw, anyone know of any 900MHz wireless IP phones that support multiple handsets/line combos on a single base?`
`20:26.37`	`danp`	`if you handle incoming SIP calls you probably don't want to move to 1.4 yet`
`20:26.56`	`bcnl`	`danp: thanks, all my calls come in via sip`
`20:27.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : Multiple handsets sure, but not multiple lines`
`20:27.09`	`danp`	`http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=8416`
`20:27.11`	`brookshire`	`i think 1.4 brings jitter buffer to sip`
`20:27.19`	`brookshire`	`and can handle more concurrent sip calls`
`20:27.24`	`bcnl`	`luke-jr_work: not 900MHZ but Aastra makes the 480i CT which is a nice phone`
`20:27.27`	`brookshire`	`so...`
`20:27.50`	`brookshire`	`but i agree.. first releases are always problematic`
`20:27.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bcnl : its has multi-line issues in how it manages those handsets.... conceptually flawed`
`20:29.10`	`bcnl`	`I think I'll resist the attraction to that new software smell, and wait for 1.4.0.1 or something`
`20:29.15`	`bcnl`	`or at least till I'm back in the office`
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`20:31.54`	`naitram`	`[TK]D-Fender: here is what i have in extensions.conf, ie... exten => 101,1,Dial() and exten => 101,2,System(echo hello > hello.txt)`
`20:32.35`	`naitram`	`if i answer the phone being dialed the text file never gets created , if i dont answer it does?`
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`20:33.19`	`bcnl`	`naitram: I think that's cause asterisk ends the dialplan logic after you pickup`
`20:33.33`	`bcnl`	`naitram: but if you let it ring through, it moves to the next line of code`
`20:33.55`	`naitram`	`bcnl: so put the text first and it should work?`
`20:33.55`	`bcnl`	`I also think there's a way you can have asterisk carry on executing the dialplan after 101 hangs up`
`20:33.59`	`bcnl`	`yup`
`20:34.04`	`luke-jr_work`	`bcnl: any idea if the Aastra 480i CT has a method to ring only one handset?`
`20:34.12`	`luke-jr_work`	`eg, assign each handset a line?`
`20:34.26`	`bcnl`	`luke-jr_work: if I was in the office, I would be able to test it for you (talk to me jan 2nd)`
`20:34.31`	`bcnl`	`but I think you can`
`20:34.36`	`luke-jr_work`	`hm`
`20:34.44`	`bcnl`	`the base might ring no matter what line you call`
`20:34.59`	`bcnl`	`but you could have each cordless as a seperate`
`20:35.28`	`robl^`	`you can assign limit lines to a 480 handset..`
`20:35.39`	`luke-jr_work`	`robl^: ?`
`20:36.06`	`robl^`	`sorry.. You can configure a 480i CT to only send calls from certain lines to a handset`
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`20:37.16`	`robl^`	`I was re-reading the sip guide for the 480i / 480CT just the other day.`
`20:37.51`	`ftexcom`	`finally`
`20:37.57`	`ftexcom`	`a working asterisk on an ubuntu`
`20:39.13`	`naitram`	`bcnl: thanks, that was it.`
`20:39.13`	`luke-jr_work`	`robl^: so I could setup each line to be a specific handset, thus making them appear to have seperate lines?`
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`20:40.03`	`luke-jr_work`	`hrm, is it normal for the price of TDM01B+(3*S110M) to be less than TDM13B? O.o`
`20:40.16`	`robl^`	`luke-jr_work: that is my understanding.. I don't have the 480CT to actually try it. I just have the 480i`
`20:40.17`	`Qwell[]`	`luke-jr_work: yes, one of the modules cost slightly more than the other`
`20:40.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`naitram : "show application dial" and go read about the "h" standard extensions.`
`20:40.37`	`luke-jr_work`	`Qwell[]: well, the two are more or less the same thing, but the latter is fully assembled?`
`20:41.04`	`luke-jr_work`	`TDM13B = 1 FXO + 3 FXS`
`20:41.14`	`Qwell[]`	`no, a TDM40B should cost the same as a TDM10B plus 3 FXO(FXS? whichever)`
`20:41.20`	`Qwell[]`	`BUT, it's up to the reseller, I believe`
`20:41.59`	`luke-jr_work`	`TDM10B = FXO; S110M=FXS`
`20:42.11`	`Qwell[]`	`S110M is the module itself`
`20:42.15`	`Qwell[]`	`TDMxxB implies bundle`
`20:42.18`	`root_`	`not that i am promoting myself but i sell tdm cards cheap at www.astawerks.net`
`20:42.22`	`luke-jr_work`	`right`
`20:42.44`	`Strom_C`	`root_: yes you are promoting yourself...don't lie :)`
`20:42.48`	`luke-jr_work`	`but FXO-bundle + 3 FXS modules is cheaper than a FXO-3FXS bundle...`
`20:43.01`	`root_`	`umm yeah. shoot my username is showing as root thats not a good thing!. brb`
`20:43.10`	`Qwell[]`	`luke-jr_work: it isn't normally, but, again, it's up to the reseller`
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`20:43.21`	`Qwell[]`	`~root`
`20:43.30`	`jbot`	`root is probably not a Good Thing to use when using IRC. Please use a different account. You will probably not be able to speak until change your user account.`
`20:43.30`	`Strom_C`	`^^^ would you buy hardware from someone that can't even use IRC?`
`20:43.46`	`root_`	`dude. I had this thing logged in all day. It must have disconnected :(`
`20:43.48`	`luke-jr_work`	`heh`
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`20:44.25`	`Astawerks`	`ok im back this is much better`
`20:44.40`	`Strom_C`	`you're still IRCing from the root account of your machine`
`20:44.41`	`luke-jr_work`	`Astawerks: got the 31B?`
`20:44.44`	`bcnl`	`heh`
`20:44.47`	`bcnl`	`still root though`
`20:44.49`	`Astawerks`	`yup`
`20:44.59`	`Astawerks`	`yeah man. i love using root`
`20:45.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : And an SPA solution for 1 FXO / 3 FXS would run you about $160 total.....`
`20:45.13`	`Strom_C`	`Astawerks: you're an idiot. don't IRC as root.`
`20:45.30`	`Astawerks`	`i got more Digium cards and products that are not listed on the site at good deals.`
`20:45.33`	`mutilator`	`oh jeez`
`20:45.46`	`mutilator`	`you going to root his box cause he's on irc as root Strom_C?`
`20:45.52`	`robl^`	`IRC as root is inviting troubble`
`20:45.57`	`Strom_C`	`no`
`20:46.00`	`Astawerks`	`its not my PC!`
`20:46.02`	`Strom_C`	`i'm not a skiddie`
`20:46.12`	`naitram`	`[TK]D-Fender: yeah, gotcha. Lots of flags, I see now. Thanks for the help`
`20:46.16`	`mutilator`	`its only inviting trouble if there is a security flaw in your irc software`
`20:46.33`	`Strom_C`	`Astawerks: even more reason not to IRC as root`
`20:46.48`	`Astawerks`	`oh god the peer pressure what should i do!!`
`20:47.03`	`Strom_C`	`go read "how linux works"`
`20:47.33`	`Astawerks`	`i know how it works.`
`20:47.38`	`bcnl`	`well offering ecomm services while doing a "not very smart" security practice doesn't make ppl want to buy from you`
`20:47.49`	`Qwell[]`	`bcnl: I completely agree..`
`20:47.55`	`Astawerks`	`ok ok. ill brb.`
`20:48.01`	`bcnl`	`"here's my credit card number, make sure to store it in ~public_html"`
`20:48.06`	`Strom_C`	`hahahhah`
`20:48.11`	`Qwell[]`	`Strom_C: don't laugh, it's happened`
`20:48.25`	`Strom_C`	`Qwell[]: I laugh because it's true :(`
`20:48.39`	`bcnl`	`meh, I ate too much turkey and waffles`
`20:49.08`	`bcnl`	`it's no roscoes, but it worked`
`20:49.09`	`robl^`	`turkey and waffles!?!? strange combination. are you pregnant? ;-)`
`20:49.28`	`bcnl`	`robl^: I was in LA this summer, had roscoes chicken and waffles, it was suprisingly good`
`20:49.29`	`Strom_C`	`robl^: not so strange - haven't you ever heard of Roscoe's House of Chicken 'n Waffles?`
`20:49.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robl^ : are turkey & waffles even genetically compatable?`
`20:49.39`	`Qwell[]`	`chicken != turkey`
`20:49.51`	`bcnl`	`so hungover this morning I thought I'd slap some turkey on eggos with syrop`
`20:49.52`	`bcnl`	`it rocked`
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`20:50.06`	`Strom_C`	`bcnl: which one did you go to? the one on Gower street?`
`20:50.10`	`Astawerks`	`ok happy now i am loogged in as myself!`
`20:50.14`	`bcnl`	`shocked the family, till they tried it then they all had it`
`20:50.18`	`bcnl`	`Strom_C: yup`
`20:50.28`	`Strom_C`	`sweet. that's the one I go to all the time :)`
`20:50.41`	`bcnl`	`heh a friend of mine lives on gower so every time we're in LA we stay there`
`20:50.54`	`bcnl`	`and now we eat fried chicken and waffles`
`20:51.02`	`Strom_C`	`Astawerks: now, for your next trick, store his credit card number in ~public_html/`
`20:51.15`	`Astawerks`	`dude give me a break`
`20:51.19`	`robl^`	`ok.. next I will try pancakes and roast beef, a side of scrammbed eggs and sauerkraut... ;-)`
`20:51.37`	`bcnl`	`robl^: you sound like my family`
`20:51.42`	`bcnl`	`they all caved, once they tried`
`20:53.02`	`bcnl`	`ok it's post noon, time to find a pub to park myself into`
`20:53.03`	`bcnl`	`later`
`20:54.27`	`Strom_C`	`damnit, now I want to go to Roscoe's for lunch`
`20:54.51`	`Astawerks`	`where that at ?`
`20:56.05`	`Strom_C`	`Gower street in Hollywood`
`20:56.36`	`Strom_C`	`between Hollywood Blvd. and Sunset Blvd.`
`20:57.08`	`Astawerks`	`yeah i heard about that spot`
`20:57.31`	`Astawerks`	`im bring myself back to new york this weekend and eating nothing but pizza and kanishes`
`20:57.40`	`Strom_C`	`it's spelled knish`
`20:57.51`	`Astawerks`	`yeah its been that long since i been back`
`20:58.08`	`Astawerks`	`im in the midwest theres no such thing as those around here`
`20:58.26`	`Strom_C`	`nonsense. there are delis in the midwest.`
`20:59.41`	`Astawerks`	`yeah in cleveland.`
`21:00.16`	`Strom_C`	`I'm sure there are enough ex-new yorkers in Cleveland for there to be at least one shop that sells knishes`
`21:01.36`	`Astawerks`	`dude come to columbus and search. There is nothing!. Giant eagle had Potato knishes for a while and it just went away!. I want some big ol fat knishes soaking in mustard and grease`
`21:02.09`	`Strom_C`	`well maybe now that you know how to spell it correctly, you'll be able to better locate them :D`
`21:02.16`	`Astawerks`	`and the pizza here is just sad`
`21:02.29`	`Astawerks`	`Hey God Blessed me with looks. not spelling!`
`21:02.39`	`robl^`	`Columbus scares me.. as does Dayton / Kettering, Cincinnati. I still have nightmares of my childhood`
`21:02.49`	`naitram`	`here in Al, they eat chicken feet and rice for new years for good luck. any takers`
`21:03.03`	`Astawerks`	`i been here for 4 years from what i heard it changed alot in the past 10 years`
`21:03.16`	`Astawerks`	`ill take the rice`
`21:04.02`	`robl^`	`Astawerks: do they have Skyline in Columbus?`
`21:04.34`	`naitram`	`have to confess i have tried it to be polite, taste like chicken and rice. Its mostly an ethnic thing, probably goes back hundreds of years, id guess`
`21:05.27`	`naitram`	`suppose, chicken and waffles will be in LA in a hundred years`
`21:05.50`	`Astawerks`	`how did that get started anyway?`
`21:06.48`	`naitram`	`Astawerks: have no idea, i always thought it was a joke in blacksploitation movies like Fridays, or Im gonna get you sucka`
`21:06.58`	`mercestes`	`we eat hog jaws, collard greens, and pinto beans for good luck.`
`21:07.20`	`Astawerks`	`that just killed my appitite for dinner tonight`
`21:07.28`	`mercestes`	`hog jaws are nummy.`
`21:07.34`	`mercestes`	`they're just like bacon......only crunchier.`
`21:07.47`	`mercestes`	`which is the nummy part.`
`21:08.09`	`naitram`	`mercestes: yeah, we have black eye peas, collards. I have seen complete pigs faces in some of the more ethnic grocery stores around new years, suppose thats another tradition`
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`21:08.42`	`naitram`	`of course they always have pig ears`
`21:09.36`	`naitram`	`quote mr morrison, people are strange`
`21:09.42`	`mercestes`	`Aye.`
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`21:15.59`	`Strom_C`	`five bucks says he comes in as root again next time`
`21:16.54`	`mercestes`	`lol`
`21:20.03`	`mercestes`	`5 bucks says his wholesale contact is "ebay."`
`21:21.44`	`robl^`	`lol. and products are livered with a coating of waffle maple syrup`
`21:21.46`	`robl^`	`delivered, evne`
`21:22.14`	`mercestes`	`robl~: I suddenly understand your username.`
`21:22.18`	`mercestes`	`you meant Robert.`
`21:22.43`	`Strom_C`	`hahaha`
`21:22.55`	`Nugget`	`heh`
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`21:23.46`	`robl^`	`mercestes: hehe. nah. legacy user name.. first name + last initial, my typing just sucks, 40 WPM and 10 mistakes`
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`21:27.11`	`mercestes`	`I can type 378 words per minute with 943 mistakes.`
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`21:27.34`	`mercestes`	`I'm just teasing you tho...;)`
`21:27.49`	`Strom_C`	`i can type 952 mistakes per minte with 5 words`
`21:28.01`	`mercestes`	`Strom_C: Winnar!`
`21:28.12`	`Strom_C`	`s/minte/minute/`
`21:29.03`	`robl^`	`sulks, even`
`21:29.13`	`mercestes`	`....`
`21:29.16`	`mercestes`	`install faster.`
`21:29.31`	`naitram`	`robl^: definitely showing your age now`
`21:29.48`	`robl^`	`I'm only 21 (again)`
`21:30.06`	`ftexcom`	`I'm 21 too`
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`21:30.25`	`naitram`	`i used that program, 18 or so years ago i guess. Do they still make it`
`21:31.05`	`Nugget`	`Sure, but now it's entirely in aolbonics. "y r u typn ur sentences?"`
`21:31.06`	`robl^`	`Mavis Beacon does release new version each year. I think latest is version 17`
`21:31.33`	`naitram`	`Nugget: gd 1`
`21:32.02`	`robl^`	`ya nugget 0wn3z!`
`21:32.16`	`luke-jr_work`	`are Grandstream ATAs any good?`
`21:32.20`	`mercestes`	`robl^: you mean pwnz.`
`21:32.24`	`naitram`	`robl^: wow, time files, or is that flies`
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`21:32.47`	`naitram`	`or flyz`
`21:33.33`	`Strom_C`	`luke-jr_work: in my opinion, grandstream stuff is all horrid`
`21:34.03`	`luke-jr_work`	`Strom_C: any details? :)`
`21:34.57`	`Strom_C`	`poor software design and low build quality`
`21:35.17`	`Strom_C`	`it's the Yugo of VoIP`
`21:35.20`	`luke-jr_work`	`eh, this is hardware :p`
`21:35.23`	`robl^`	`and poor hardware design.`
`21:36.28`	`Strom_C`	`luke-jr_work: yeah, but you need software to run on the hardware`
`21:36.42`	`Strom_C`	`this stuff isn't made out of vacuum tubes, you know`
`21:36.45`	`luke-jr_work`	`hm, OpenWrt/Asterisk work on any? :)`
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`21:37.09`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: let me put it this way. ATA's, in general, sucks, horribly.. Grandstreams, in general, sucks like the new guy on the prison block.`
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`21:37.48`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: I didn't even know they made a grandstream ata....but I would be amazed if it even managed to blink it's own light. I'd die from shock if it passed a for real phone call.`
`21:38.09`	`mercestes`	`Unless it's a grandstream analog to fxo converter.`
`21:38.12`	`luke-jr_work`	`http://store.voxilla.com/voxilla/tw00221.html`
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`21:38.19`	`mercestes`	`then I wouldn't be surprised at all.`
`21:38.43`	`luke-jr_work`	`so back to PCI?`
`21:38.59`	`Strom_C`	`luke-jr_work: in no uncertain terms, DO NOT BUY GRANDSTREAM`
`21:39.21`	`luke-jr_work`	`heh`
`21:39.26`	`Strom_C`	`X-Rob: i think that would be overengineering`
`21:39.37`	`monsted`	`mercestes: you should probably say that cheap atas suck big floppy donkey dick, while some of the more expensive ones aren't too bad`
`21:39.43`	`mercestes`	`Grandstream sells them for only $60.00..but you get poor audio quality.`
`21:40.00`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: Linksys/Sipura ATAs suck as well?`
`21:40.11`	`mercestes`	`monsted: I feel fairly safe saying that the more expensive ones are just better at sucking big floppy donkey dick.`
`21:40.25`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: Depends on what yoru doing with them.`
`21:40.38`	`mercestes`	`if you are using them to drive an analog phone...they are adequate for the job.`
`21:40.47`	`mercestes`	`if you are using them to drive a fax machine...you are doomed to eventual failure.`
`21:41.20`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: hm, my PAP2-NA works fine for faxing`
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`21:41.47`	`Strom_C`	`damnit, I lost the bet`
`21:41.47`	`luke-jr_work`	`what about SPA-3102 to connect a landline and analog phone to *?`
`21:42.04`	`mercestes`	`mine is still up in the air.`
`21:42.12`	`Zhad`	`if it's anything like the spa3000, It's not worth the money.`
`21:42.40`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: why do you ask questions to things you think you know the answer to?`
`21:42.40`	`Strom_C`	`as an example of how much I love my spa-3102, it's gathering dust in the closet`
`21:43.04`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: "suck" need not refer to faxing :p`
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`21:43.19`	`mercestes`	`Grandstream...unanimously, sucks.`
`21:43.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I found my SPA-3000 o be OK. Can be hit-or-miss I guess`
`21:43.57`	`mercestes`	`Stop using an ATA for faxing...it will fail much more reliably than if you were using it for it's intended purpose of a phone line converter for analog telephones.`
`21:44.29`	`mercestes`	`you could get lucky and suffer 0 problems.`
`21:44.33`	`mercestes`	`my next quick pick could win me the lottery.`
`21:44.55`	`luke-jr_work`	`shrug, if it fails, retry... no big deal there`
`21:44.58`	`mercestes`	`even grandstreams work on rare occassion.`
`21:45.25`	`mercestes`	`...not that I've ever heard of or witnessed...but I am sure that it worked atleast once in a lab environment.`
`21:46.17`	`Astawerks`	`grandstreams are a joy especially when their gui stops working!`
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`21:46.34`	`mercestes`	`my grandstream works perfectly......as a door stop.`
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`21:47.54`	`Strom_C`	`i'd install granstream products for people I wanted to torture`
`21:47.54`	`luke-jr_work`	`ok, so unanimously grandstream sucks`
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`21:48.07`	`Strom_C`	`isn't that what I said three screens ago?`
`21:48.23`	`luke-jr_work`	`Strom_C: yeah, then they continued to rant on about how it sucks :)`
`21:48.48`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: liar! you kept asking about it.`
`21:48.48`	`luke-jr_work`	`but Sipura should work fine provided I don't care about faxing?`
`21:49.19`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: did I? where?`
`21:49.40`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work> are Grandstream ATAs any good?`
`21:50.15`	`luke-jr_work`	`[15:32:25]`
`21:50.32`	`mercestes`	`are you trying to tell me to quit living in the past?`
`21:51.12`	`dlynes_laptop`	`the budgetones are pretty reliable, albeit with poor sound quality`
`21:51.25`	`luke-jr_work`	`nope, just pointing out that it was prior to Strom_C declared it unanimous`
`21:51.49`	`luke-jr_work`	`the options are down to Sipura vs Digium from what I can see`
`21:52.00`	`luke-jr_work`	`with Digium being 3x the cost of Sipura`
`21:52.03`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Digium has a serious contender for atas?`
`21:52.10`	`luke-jr_work`	`dlynes_laptop: no, their PCI stuff`
`21:52.13`	`dlynes_laptop`	`ah`
`21:52.36`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: And I've run asterisk on openwrt. Are you trying to do anythign in particular or are you part troll?`
`21:52.57`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: trying to get 1 FXO and 1 FXS`
`21:53.10`	`mercestes`	`...`
`21:53.11`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: just go with the sipura 3000 and be done with it`
`21:53.17`	`luke-jr_work`	`re OpenWrt, I was pondering an ATA that you could run it on`
`21:53.29`	`mercestes`	`...an ata?`
`21:53.30`	`Zhad`	`also a pair of Cisco 182s`
`21:53.38`	`mercestes`	`I ran it on a Linksys Wireless Router.`
`21:53.49`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: ATA or PCI doesn't matter; cost, reliability, and functionality do`
`21:54.01`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: so, it didn't have phone ports`
`21:54.14`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: if reliability matters, go with the digium or sangoma tdm cards`
`21:54.26`	`Zhad`	`tell a lie, I have 2 AG-468s`
`21:54.30`	`luke-jr_work`	`dlynes_laptop: they're all factors`
`21:54.31`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: if functionality and price matter, go with the sipura 3000`
`21:54.54`	`luke-jr_work`	`dlynes_laptop: Digium gets a minus on reliability as it lacks failover with power loss (I think?)`
`21:55.01`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: correct`
`21:55.02`	`Zhad`	`luke> especially if you don't mind hitting your head against a wall.`
`21:55.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : Then you want a PCI solution, and its going to cost accordingly. You've heard this all already. You don't need US to convince you any further. You need to face whether your want or need of * to do this is worth it to you or not.`
`21:55.17`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: but it's more reliable, because you're not dependent on flaky firmware`
`21:55.39`	`Qwell[]`	`how would it failover? If you had multiple FXO/FXS ports, it wouldn't know which should map to which`
`21:55.49`	`Qwell[]`	`you'd have to set some jumpers or something, to tell it`
`21:55.58`	`luke-jr_work`	`Qwell[]: that'd be fine :p`
`21:55.59`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: if you want something reliable for failover and non-flaky software, and you want the functionality, there's epygi, but then you lose out on economy`
`21:56.34`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: and if you're wanting to run epygi, well, then you don't have a need for asterisk anymore...epygi is more or less a keysystem`
`21:56.36`	`Zhad`	`eg. today I discovered that you can't have an incoming call present itself to asterisk using G.729 as the codec.`
`21:56.39`	`luke-jr_work`	`dlynes_laptop: how flaky is the firmware on Sipura stuff, though? enough to pay 3x for Digium?>`
`21:56.41`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work is one of those people who fills out his online shopping cart and never hits the "buy" button. I think he's just shopping and we're an interactive mall.`
`21:56.58`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: let's put it this way...where are you planning on putting it?`
`21:57.01`	`Zhad`	`the SPA3000 has only one FXS and one FXO port, imn a power failure they directly connect.`
`21:57.18`	`mercestes`	`dlynes_laptop: I have a few suggestions..:D`
`21:57.28`	`luke-jr_work`	`dlynes_laptop: where? my dad's house`
`21:57.35`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: then go with the sipura 3000`
`21:57.44`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: you want cheapness above all`
`21:57.51`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: it's for a house, not an office`
`21:57.58`	`luke-jr_work`	`he works out of his house`
`21:58.04`	`dlynes_laptop`	`doesn't matter`
`21:58.06`	`luke-jr_work`	`so both`
`21:58.07`	`mercestes`	`is he a troll too?`
`21:58.08`	`dlynes_laptop`	`it's only one person, right?`
`21:58.27`	`dlynes_laptop`	`how much stress are you going to put on a sipura 3000 with only one employee?`
`21:58.32`	`luke-jr_work`	`dlynes_laptop: not really, but he is planning to get IP phones at some point to add on`
`21:58.52`	`dlynes_laptop`	`or for that matter, when you've only got one line?`
`21:58.54`	`luke-jr_work`	`ok, so the firmware isn't that flaky`
`21:58.55`	`Zhad`	`what is the ATA needed for anyway?`
`21:59.05`	`luke-jr_work`	`Zhad: current analog phones`
`21:59.08`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zhad: he needs a sip gateway, not an ata`
`21:59.10`	`luke-jr_work`	`and landline`
`21:59.42`	`mercestes`	`He needs a consultant.`
`21:59.42`	`dlynes_laptop`	`a consultant for one line? hehehehe`
`21:59.42`	`Zhad`	`good luck to the consultant.`
`22:00.00`	`Zhad`	`why does he want an ATA with an FXO port then?`
`22:00.04`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: anyways...I think you're making way too much ado about nothing`
`22:00.10`	`luke-jr_work`	`Zhad: 1 landline; 1 analog phone`
`22:00.12`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zhad: so that it's got power failover`
`22:00.25`	`Zhad`	`doesn't need an FXO port for that`
`22:00.39`	`Zhad`	`get something like a Zoom x5v`
`22:00.41`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zhad: um....what else is the analog phone line going to plug into?`
`22:00.43`	`Zhad`	`(if on ADSL).`
`22:01.16`	`Zhad`	`if incoming calls don't need to be presented to asterisk, then he doesn't need an FXO port (like the SPA3000).`
`22:01.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : again.....`
`22:01.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`luke-jr_work : Then you want a PCI solution, and its going to cost accordingly. You've heard this all already. You don't need US to convince you any further. You need to face whether your want or need of * to do this is worth it to you or not.`
`22:01.30`	`luke-jr_work`	`... who would pay for a landline and only use it in an emergency?`
`22:01.31`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zhad: he needs an fxo port so he can plug an analog phone line into it`
`22:01.38`	`Zhad`	`may as well get an ata that bridges on power failure instead.`
`22:01.40`	`thegreatmaco`	`does anyone know of any good iax phones available?`
`22:01.42`	`Zhad`	`much cheaper`
`22:01.56`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zhad: you still have to pay for the phone line`
`22:01.58`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zhad: why not use it?`
`22:01.59`	`mercestes`	`luke-jr_work: Lots of people.`
`22:02.02`	`Zhad`	`tgm> I use an Atcom AT-320, not great but for �30 you can't complain.`
`22:02.18`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zhad: besides...who said he was using adsl?`
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`22:03.02`	`Zhad`	`dlynes> because it is not the appropriate hardware, for half the price he can get something like an x5v which will be a lot simpler to setup for someone who is inexperienced, does not have an FXO port but has PSTN pass-through and will handle QoS for him.`
`22:03.06`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: you only want to use analog, right? you don't want to have to use voip lines, right?`
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`22:03.29`	`luke-jr_work`	`dlynes_laptop: analog for local calls, voip for long distance`
`22:03.33`	`luke-jr_work`	`(or enum)`
`22:03.38`	`thegreatmaco`	`it seems the atcom at-320 is difficult to obtain in the us`
`22:03.59`	`Zhad`	`tgm> so it should be, the asic it is based on stopped being made around 4 months ago.`
`22:04.11`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zhad: you mean it has fxo, and four or five pstn pass throughs?`
`22:04.26`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zhad: i.e. one analog line in, and four or five analog phones out?`
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`22:04.49`	`luke-jr_work`	`actually, it is DSL... would be interesting if a firmware replacement could use the phone line for FXO as well as internet ;)`
`22:04.57`	`Zhad`	`(and it has FXS and a passthrough).`
`22:05.25`	`Zhad`	`luke> what are we talking about now?`
`22:06.05`	`Zhad`	`an SPA-3000 has 1 FXO port, 1 FXS port and 1 WAN port on it.`
`22:06.27`	`mercestes`	`dlynes_laptop: You made a valiant attempt at sanity.`
`22:06.29`	`luke-jr_work`	`yeah, that'd work`
`22:06.44`	`luke-jr_work`	`that Zoom device just made me wonder if any DSL modems supported FXO and DSL on a single phone jack`
`22:07.12`	`GiantPickle`	`Hello all. I'm new to Asterisk, but I have read quite a bit already and I'm not scared to do more. I'm very comfortable with linux. I'm planning to put an Asterisk solution my small office. I'm stuck trying to figure out the best way to implement and what hardware to acquire. Does anyone have some time to discuss and maybe recommend an approach?`
`22:07.14`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: linksys/sipura`
`22:07.14`	`mercestes`	`CEO of Zoom, maker of th eZoom x5v, obviously.`
`22:07.16`	`Zhad`	`luke> it doesn't supporet FXO, but will pass calls from the PSTN through to the handset even in the event of a power failure.`
`22:07.31`	`Zhad`	`and it is very simple to setup (in comparison to an SPA3000)`
`22:08.01`	`mercestes`	`or atleast their leading sales guy.`
`22:08.03`	`luke-jr_work`	`Zhad: well, even if mercestes says some people do buy landlines just for emergencies, I personally think it's a waste :)`
`22:08.09`	`Zhad`	`alternatively, something like a Fritzbox FON 1500, same sort of setup, will provide mostly the same functionality but support multiple SIP providers.`
`22:08.47`	`Zhad`	`both ports?`
`22:08.57`	`mercestes`	`Can I ask a stupid question? Exactly how do you pass analog through an ATA with only an FXS port and a Ethernet port in the event of a power loss without a UPS solution???`
`22:09.04`	`luke-jr_work`	`Zhad: the FXO and FXS`
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`22:09.07`	`dlynes_laptop`	`luke-jr_work: no...each port is a different sip friend`
`22:09.07`	`Zhad`	`with sipuras you can have multiple accounts, you can even embed the account information into your dialplan.`
`22:09.08`	`ManxPower`	`mercestes: you don't`
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`22:09.24`	`mercestes`	`not that I care if you all burn to yoru deaths at this point...I just wanted to pose the question on a theoretical level.`
`22:09.28`	`ManxPower`	`mercestes: only boxes with FXO and FXS do that.`
`22:09.28`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: the SPA-3xxx have FXS and FXO`
`22:09.50`	`mercestes`	`That's what I was thinking.`
`22:10.03`	`DUAL_MAN`	`hey everyone, i downloaded the newest asterisk (I'm a past trixbox user) and i make comile everything but asterisk does not appear in the /etc/asterisk/ folder, how do i make it install to that folder?`
`22:10.06`	`mercestes`	`but...Zhad has this Zoom x5v that he says does just that.`
`22:10.13`	`Zhad`	`the SPA-3000 can be a great piece of kit, but not really appropriate in this case.`
`22:10.20`	`dlynes_laptop`	`and it's got an fxo pass through whatever the hell that is`
`22:10.28`	`Zhad`	`yeah`
`22:10.36`	`mercestes`	`See.`
`22:10.51`	`mercestes`	`exactly how does that work?`
`22:10.56`	`Zhad`	`not full FXO, cannot connect to your asterisk server and pass a PSTN call to it.`
`22:11.06`	`dlynes_laptop`	`then what good is it for asterisk?`
`22:11.07`	`sbingner`	`mercestes, make samples`
`22:11.15`	`sbingner`	`er`
`22:11.19`	`sbingner`	`DUAL_MAN, make samples`
`22:11.30`	`mercestes`	`sbingner: omg! I just deleted all my configs! YOU BASTARD!`
`22:11.36`	`Zhad`	`dlynes> I assume he wants to connect to a remote service.`
`22:11.38`	`sbingner`	`mercestes, lol`
`22:11.57`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zhad: he also wants to make use of his analog line in non-emergency situations`
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`22:12.01`	`Zhad`	`also, you stated earlier that the PSTN was only for failover (which is moreorless all it can do).`
`22:12.10`	`Zhad`	`which he can do`
`22:12.27`	`luke-jr_work`	`mercestes: Zoom x5v has 2 phone jacks...`
`22:12.31`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zhad: nobody wants to pay $40 for an analog line that they can only use in emergencies`
`22:12.35`	`luke-jr_work`	`Zhad: I didn't say ONLY`
`22:12.38`	`Zhad`	`you can make calls out through the PSTN, you just can't present the PSTN to your own server.`
`22:12.43`	`luke-jr_work`	`Zhad: I said failover was a nice capability`
`22:12.49`	`mercestes`	`...`
`22:12.49`	`luke-jr_work`	`in addition to the regular FXO`
`22:13.08`	`mercestes`	`yea... I highly advocate Zhad's solution....and playing with matches in power outage situatiosn.`
`22:13.16`	`Zhad`	`err, you mean the regular FXS.`
`22:13.17`	`dlynes_laptop`	`mercestes: heh`
`22:13.22`	`dlynes_laptop`	`no`
`22:13.23`	`dlynes_laptop`	`fxo`
`22:13.28`	`mercestes`	`Pray to Darwin for me.`
`22:13.45`	`dlynes_laptop`	`fxo => foreign exchange office`
`22:13.48`	`Zhad`	`merc> they are bridged in a power cut in exactly the same way that they are in an SPA 3000.`
`22:14.03`	`luke-jr_work`	`Zhad: but can you use the FXO port in normal situation?`
`22:14.25`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zhad: he wants to use the fxo port to both place calls and receive calls, using asterisk`
`22:14.37`	`Zhad`	`ah, can't do that.`
`22:14.49`	`dlynes_laptop`	`which is what we've been saying for the last ten screens`
`22:14.52`	`Zhad`	`I thought this was for a single home user.`
`22:15.02`	`DUAL_MAN`	`sbingner: thanks man`
`22:15.13`	`Zhad`	`and since he's not going to be sat there behind him the whole time I didn't think the home user would be running asterisk.`
`22:15.18`	`luke-jr_work`	`Zhad: yeah, which is why $40/mo for mere emergency is ridiculous`
`22:15.34`	`dlynes_laptop`	`maybe analog lines are a lot cheaper in the UK`
`22:15.45`	`sbingner`	`I want dialtone detection in an AGI for something similar to making an outgoing call to a calling-card service.... anybody have any ideas on how to do that? I see NVLineDetect but I don't really like that idea, prefer something that's integrated instead of available-by-email`
`22:15.53`	`Zhad`	`�14/month generally (irrespective of provider).`
`22:16.23`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Is that 14 pounds a month for unlimited local, or without the unlimited local option?`
`22:16.37`	`Zhad`	`nah.`
`22:16.47`	`dlynes_laptop`	`so without?`
`22:16.49`	`Zhad`	`got to go, missus calling.`
`22:18.17`	`mercestes`	`...`
`22:18.42`	`mercestes`	`isn't it funny how you ask him a direct question and he bolts? but....he has all the time in the world to totally disrupt a conversation he wasn't included in?`
`22:19.34`	`mercestes`	`But that's ok....Darwinism will take it's course when he tries to dial 911 in an emergency power outage situation and he learns the difference between FXS, FXO, and bridging.`
`22:22.30`	`GiantPickle`	`If that conversation is over now... would anyone be able to help me with my situation? (mentioned above, but I can repaste)`
`22:23.38`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: Yea, I remember you. What hardware do you have now? Are you trying to integrate taht current hardware or go to a new solution??`
`22:24.03`	`GiantPickle`	`mercestes: I'm trying to figure out what hardware to get (new office, new solution)`
`22:25.30`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: So you have no hardware in place now?`
`22:26.00`	`GiantPickle`	`Correct. I'm starting from scratch. I've got 3 lines coming in from the telco. I've got 5-7 stations to set up. I've also got a fax line.`
`22:26.25`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: the analogs?`
`22:26.48`	`GiantPickle`	`Are the incoming lines analog you mean?`
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`22:27.50`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: I would suggest getting a FXO card and keeping your analog lines. They are going to give you more predictable reliability and sound quality. I'd leave the fax alone.`
`22:28.17`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: Now if your feeling adventerous (or they are forgiving) throw a sip connection in there for VoIP and start doing VoIP traffic.`
`22:28.29`	`mercestes`	`That's the conservative approach.`
`22:28.49`	`mercestes`	`The proper attitude is rip everything out, throw in a T1, and drop G711 all over the place.`
`22:30.56`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: Am I making sense to you?`
`22:31.11`	`GiantPickle`	`mercestes: So you are suggesting.. get an FXO card to plug the incoming lines into?`
`22:31.22`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: That's the safe approach.`
`22:31.43`	`GiantPickle`	`and then I need to have an FXS card(s) to plug my station lines into?`
`22:31.56`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: Then you can establish sip traffic for long distance and if it gets flakey you can switch back over to the analog lines fairly quickly.`
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`22:32.12`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: nah, get Polycom phones and run them via Ethernet.`
`22:32.21`	`GiantPickle`	`mercestes: ah... gotcha`
`22:33.00`	`Sauron	`anyone who has broadvoice talking to *?`
`22:33.14`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: So you would have "VoIP" phones all over the place (Cisco is another brandname but...in this channel Polycom is the winnar), run them to Asterisk, and then have Asterisk terminate out Sip and Analog lines.`
`22:33.15`	`GiantPickle`	`mercestes: okay... thanks for that... I'll do some more reading now and prolly come back later =)`
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`22:33.30`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: You can even do a little bit of fail over that way.`
`22:34.07`	`GiantPickle`	`mercestes: sry... I'm not up on all the lingo yet... terminate out Sip and Analog lines?`
`22:34.15`	`GiantPickle`	`mercestes: and fail over?`
`22:34.48`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: And if you get bigger than just plug in a PRI or Two and get you a data T1. Or if SIP is working for you, then get a multimode T1 or two and run 4 lines and less bandwidth.`
`22:35.44`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: Asterisk can terminate a telephone call using your existing three lines via a FXO card, or it can terminate over the Internet using Session Initiation Protocol.`
`22:36.06`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: You can even program it to try SIP first, and then use Analog if the SIP call fails, or vice verse.`
`22:36.36`	`GiantPickle`	`mercestes: okay... since I haven't actually got the telephone lines installed yet... would you suggest something different to start with?`
`22:36.54`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: Depends on what your wanting to do, and how expensive a T1 is.`
`22:37.32`	`mercestes`	`GiantPickle: I'm kind of fond of multimode T1's myself where you run 4 lines of b-chan and just under a meg of data.`
`22:37.56`	`GiantPickle`	`mercestes: mostly local calling, but certainly some long distance... I'll have to check on the price of a T1`
`22:37.59`	`ManxPower`	`mercestes: Those are commonly called "Integrated Access"`
`22:38.00`	`mercestes`	`then you have data and PRI all in one T1, but, the IAD card for that is a couple grand i hear.`
`22:38.07`	`GiantPickle`	`mercestes: multimode T1 meaning... voice and data?`
`22:38.12`	`mercestes`	`Yea.`
`22:38.20`	`ManxPower`	`Most carriers will provide the IAD`
`22:38.39`	`mercestes`	`Your other solutions are a seperated (broadband) access and a full or partial PRI, but...the T1's usually run a couple hundred a month or more.`
`22:38.50`	`ManxPower`	`Or you can get a used Adtran TSU 100 to demux it`
`22:38.51`	`ManxPower`	`That's what we do`
`22:39.10`	`mercestes`	`a full PRI will hold 23 simultanious calls, but...if you are using that volume, that's definately what you want.`
`22:39.34`	`ManxPower`	`The data channels go out the V.35 port into the router, the voice channels go out a DSX-1 port to Asterisk.`
`22:39.39`	`GiantPickle`	`mercestes: not that kinda volume... at this point the 3 lines seems like overkill`
`22:39.53`	`mercestes`	`Or you can do as you say and get yoru "3 lines" from the Telco, which is likely fed off a PRI anyways, and just use FXO ports instead of a T1 card.`
`22:40.53`	`GiantPickle`	`okay... thanks very much for the info`
`22:41.18`	`mercestes`	`You could, fesiably, start stacking ATA's and save yourself a bill or so, but....It's not my favorite solution.`
`22:41.22`	`mercestes`	`np. Good luck..:)`
`22:42.01`	`mercestes`	`Or you could get a Zoom x5v without an FXO port and have power outage failover, longer lasting erections, more hair growth where you want it, less where you don't, and guaranteed weight loss without exercise.`
`22:42.12`	`GiantPickle`	`lol`
`22:42.31`	`mercestes`	`;)`
`22:43.00`	`dlynes_laptop`	`damn...give mercestes an inch, and he takes a mile :0`
`22:44.09`	`mercestes`	`lol...I gotta sell these Zoom's man!`
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`22:47.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zoom is cheap crap`
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`22:48.50`	`shellshark`	`like grandstream ;)`
`22:48.55`	`sbingner`	`I want dialtone detection in an AGI for something similar to making an outgoing call to a calling-card service.... anybody have any ideas on how to do that? I see NVLineDetect but I don't really like that idea, prefer something that's integrated instead of available-by-email`
`22:49.57`	`shellshark`	`newmann is a beyotch, imho`
`22:50.00`	`mercestes`	`sbingner: just a random shot in the dark but modems have dial tone detection if you can interface with that via at commands.`
`22:50.06`	`shellshark`	`sbingner`
`22:51.01`	`sbingner`	`mercestes, lol... sure... but then how will I had off the voice call to *? :b`
`22:51.08`	`sbingner`	`s/had/hand/`
`22:51.50`	`mercestes`	`sbingner: yea, figured you'd say that. I'm not certain that Asterisk provides dialtone confirmation.`
`22:52.12`	`ManxPower`	`Asterisk does not have anything to detect dialtone in the dialplan or agi`
`22:52.22`	`mercestes`	`sbingner: In fact...I can't think of a scenario in which Asterisk would even want Dialtone itself, so it wouldn't ever confirm the existance of dialtone.`
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`22:52.27`	`ManxPower`	`I use NVFaxDetect and it works well for detecting faxes`
`22:52.32`	`dlynes_laptop`	`sbingner: with a zoom x5v, of course`
`22:52.41`	`mercestes`	`lmao\`
`22:52.46`	`mercestes`	`omg..that's never going to get old.`
`22:52.50`	`sbingner`	`mercestes, automating calling through a gateway of course ;)`
`22:52.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`GrandSuck... shudder`
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`22:53.01`	`sbingner`	`lol`
`22:53.07`	`sbingner`	`what IS a zoom x5v?`
`22:53.15`	`dlynes_laptop`	`sbingner: scroll up`
`22:53.18`	`mercestes`	`sbingner: Anything you want it to be.`
`22:53.23`	`dlynes_laptop`	`sbingner: check out Zhad's convo`
`22:53.46`	`mercestes`	`convo? that was a full blown marketing assault.`
`22:54.58`	`sbingner`	`heh I missed most of it, joined halfway thru :b`
`22:55.17`	`mercestes`	`you didn't miss much.`
`22:55.37`	`sbingner`	`lol`
`22:55.40`	`mercestes`	`somethign about fxo-less analog to pstn failover in a power outage or something.`
`22:56.18`	`mercestes`	`it was specificially designed to work with the cordless backup power generator.`
`22:56.35`	`shellshark`	`[TK]D-Fender: i've got a couple issues with my BT101... after making the DTMF stuff OOB, it no longer displays caller ID.... also, about once a day, sometimes more, i have to unplug it for about a minute, then plug it back in to get it to re-register`
`22:56.36`	`dlynes_laptop`	`mercestes: fxo pass through...get it straight`
`22:56.38`	`sbingner`	`any of you guys happen to have used that NVLineDetect app? ... it does what I want but it's not available except by emailing the author`
`22:56.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`shellshark : <[TK]D-Fender> GrandSuck... shudder`
`22:57.00`	`mercestes`	`ah yes, fxo pass through.`
`22:57.05`	`shellshark`	`[TK]D-Fender: nod`
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`22:57.35`	`shellshark`	`[TK]D-Fender: other than that, and the speakerphone totally sucking ass, it's not a bad phone`
`22:57.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zooms passthrough is a lame-ass implementation for chump consumers who want it to "just dial out".`
`22:58.04`	`mercestes`	`shellshark: My dad has this 82 Porche. Perfectly good condition. The engine to it is sitting right next to it. Ready to go.`
`22:58.07`	`shellshark`	`[TK]D-Fender: i'm getting (4) IP601's to play with here within the next week :)`
`22:58.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`shellshark : So other than the fact its crap, its a good phone? :)`
`22:58.22`	`sbingner`	`fxo pass thru? lol yea I can see where that would be very useful to all kinds of residential users who want to save money by getting VOIP for their calls but still pay for their analog line for emergencies anyways`
`22:58.25`	`shellshark`	`[TK]D-Fender: yeah, exactly ;)`
`22:58.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`shellshark : Overkill for most, but at least you're aiming at better stuff...`
`22:58.38`	`shellshark`	`[TK]D-Fender: well it's either 601's or nothing ;)`
`22:58.52`	`shellshark`	`[TK]D-Fender: friend of mine has 4 601's sitting in his closet, idle`
`22:58.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`shellshark : Your choices seem terribly limited. Why is that?`
`22:59.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`shellshark : Ah.. the sitting around factor...`
`22:59.10`	`shellshark`	`righto ;)`
`22:59.21`	`shellshark`	`i could procure some 301's but that'd be some excess cost`
`22:59.27`	`shellshark`	`601's are free (for now)`
`22:59.32`	`dlynes_laptop`	`where?`
`22:59.48`	`shellshark`	`dlynes_laptop: where does he live?`
`23:00.00`	`shellshark`	`dlynes_laptop: i'm "borrowing" them ;)`
`23:00.05`	`dlynes_laptop`	`oh :(`
`23:00.06`	`sbingner`	`....`
`23:00.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`shellshark : then by all means...`
`23:00.24`	`shellshark`	`dlynes_laptop: he did a huge 220+ station roll-out, and ended up with 4 spare phones the customer paid for, but didnt want sitting around`
`23:00.46`	`shellshark`	`dlynes_laptop: so he gratefully took the phones off the customer's hands at no charge`
`23:00.57`	`sbingner`	`hey I also need a decent SIP ATA -- my iaxy is flaky, any suggestions? :b`
`23:00.59`	`mercestes`	`after charging them for them.`
`23:01.14`	`mercestes`	`sbingner: The Zoom x5v!`
`23:01.17`	`sbingner`	`lmao`
`23:01.23`	`shellshark`	`mercestes: they originally wanted spares, but changed thier minds later for some stupid reason`
`23:01.34`	`mercestes`	`sbingner: It also works as a sip to pstn gateway, and a voip gateway, all with FXO passover.`
`23:01.38`	`dlynes_laptop`	`sbingner: the pap2-na`
`23:01.43`	`shellshark`	`mercestes: they seriously just said "take these out of here"`
`23:01.55`	`dlynes_laptop`	`sbingner: i've also heard good things about the 'yodas' from people in #yate`
`23:02.00`	`mercestes`	`shellshark: "here, I don't want this 3 grand....please, take them."`
`23:02.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sbingner : SPA-2002.`
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`23:02.17`	`shellshark`	`mercestes: your supplier sucks ;)`
`23:02.31`	`sbingner`	`dlynes_laptop, the LINKSYS one is actually decent?`
`23:02.49`	`dlynes_laptop`	`sbingner: yeah, but as tk said, the spa-2002 (if you can find one) is actually a bit better`
`23:02.50`	`shellshark`	`mercestes: it's more like 1.5 grand at the price point he got when he purchased all 220 at once ;)`
`23:03.01`	`dlynes_laptop`	`sbingner: the 2002's firmware is less flaky`
`23:03.29`	`shellshark`	`sbingner: i've never had any problems at all with PAP2's`
`23:03.33`	`dlynes_laptop`	`sbingner: but the linksys pap2-na has cool blinky lights that gives the customer a feel-good`
`23:03.37`	`sbingner`	`lol`
`23:03.43`	`shellshark`	`sbingner: PAP2T-NA, specifically is good`
`23:03.48`	`Younss`	`hello is digium card TE110 support 30 phone line via ISDN`
`23:03.49`	`Younss`	`?`
`23:04.14`	`shellshark`	`Younss: what country are you in?`
`23:04.15`	`mercestes`	`shellshark: Oh, without the sidecars.`
`23:04.25`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Younss: 30 isdn b channels via E1/29 b channel & 1 d channel via E1 PRI`
`23:04.35`	`shellshark`	`mercestes: he had a few sidecars, but definitely not on every phone heh`
`23:04.38`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Younss: if you're in a country that uses e1`
`23:05.08`	`Younss`	`Morocco`
`23:05.13`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Younss: otherwise it's 23 & 1/24 in a country that uses t1`
`23:05.16`	`shellshark`	`the US needs to migrate to E1, while still keeping the same T1 pricing ;)`
`23:05.17`	`mercestes`	`I can play the Moroccos.`
`23:05.36`	`dlynes_laptop`	`mercestes: that's moroccas or something like that :)`
`23:05.40`	`shellshark`	`dlynes_laptop: what does a J1 yield?`
`23:05.46`	`Younss`	`because my fucked colluege`
`23:05.54`	`dlynes_laptop`	`shellshark: it's a variation on T1`
`23:05.56`	`mercestes`	`shellshark: the perfect interface for a Zoom x5v!`
`23:06.02`	`Younss`	`has buy an isdn line`
`23:06.06`	`Younss`	`without asking me`
`23:06.07`	`shellshark`	`dlynes_laptop: 24 channels then?`
`23:06.13`	`dlynes_laptop`	`shellshark: yeah, i think`
`23:06.17`	`shellshark`	`ah`
`23:06.24`	`mercestes`	`Younss: The answer is "yes."`
`23:06.27`	`dlynes_laptop`	`shellshark: coppice can give you a much more authoritative answer`
`23:06.35`	`linagee_`	`what if you could use one of those new high powered phones (running pocketpc, etc) and have the internet connection do an encrypted voice communication? that might be nice... :-D`
`23:06.48`	`Younss`	`i m afraid that it will be not working`
`23:06.49`	`dlynes_laptop`	`shellshark: or benjk would probably know it just as well`
`23:06.52`	`shellshark`	`dlynes_laptop: it's just trivial information for my needs, was just curious ;)`
`23:06.53`	`Younss`	`so my boss will fire me`
`23:07.06`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: It would be nice to have a unicorn too, but I don't see either thing happening anytime soon.`
`23:07.18`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: a unicorn is fake.`
`23:07.18`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Younss: is it E1, or is it single/dual channel ISDN?`
`23:07.30`	`linagee_`	`ManxPower: er, until someone genetically engineers it. did you want it to fly too? :)`
`23:07.37`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Younss: i.e. how many phone lines can you handle on it?`
`23:07.47`	`Younss`	`yes e1 i think`
`23:07.52`	`ManxPower`	`linagee_: a flying unicorn is called something else.`
`23:07.58`	`linagee_`	`?`
`23:07.59`	`shellshark`	`Younss: most of the time they run an T1 (or in your case, E1), and use ISDN PRI signalling on one of the channels`
`23:08.01`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Younss: yeah...then the te110 will support it just fine`
`23:08.14`	`mercestes`	`Pegasus.`
`23:08.25`	`shellshark`	`Younss: so you'll get 29 channels, not 30 :)`
`23:08.32`	`Younss`	`:(`
`23:08.37`	`ManxPower`	`An Alicorn or something like that`
`23:08.39`	`dlynes_laptop`	`shellshark: no`
`23:08.45`	`mercestes`	`No....it's a pegasus....`
`23:08.46`	`linagee_`	`alicorn. lol`
`23:08.52`	`linagee_`	`aliencorn`
`23:08.57`	`shellshark`	`dlynes_laptop: T1 + D channel = PRI`
`23:08.59`	`dlynes_laptop`	`shellshark: he'll get 30 channels if it's non-pri E1, he'll get 29 channels if it's E1-PRI`
`23:09.06`	`shellshark`	`dlynes_laptop: right`
`23:09.14`	`shellshark`	`dlynes_laptop: he said ISDN, so i assumed PRI`
`23:09.34`	`ManxPower`	`If he's in Euroland ISDN BRI is very common`
`23:09.39`	`linagee_`	`shellshark: are you sure it's not T1 = PRI + D channel?`
`23:09.47`	`shellshark`	`linagee_: yes`
`23:09.47`	`Younss`	`i don't know why moroccan make it so bad`
`23:09.49`	`ManxPower`	`and none of the Txxxx cards work with BRI`
`23:10.02`	`shellshark`	`ManxPower: you can do BRI on an E1?`
`23:10.02`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Younss: you're not moroccan?`
`23:10.12`	`ManxPower`	`shellshark: not in any sane universe`
`23:10.15`	`dlynes_laptop`	`ManxPower: well, he's saying he's got 30 channels`
`23:10.36`	`Younss`	`i am`
`23:10.38`	`ManxPower`	`If he's got 30 channels then it's either a CE1 or a PRI`
`23:10.44`	`ManxPower`	`Channelize E-1 = CE1`
`23:10.57`	`ManxPower`	`i.e. nothing special just voice channels.`
`23:11.05`	`shellshark`	`no caller ID, etc ;)`
`23:11.05`	`ManxPower`	`they are horribly limiting`
`23:11.16`	`linagee_`	`it's all just 1's and 0's. :)`
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`23:11.52`	`Younss`	`is someone handling 30 channel`
`23:12.05`	`mercestes`	`Well, I must bid you adieu. well....I don't have to...but I want to.`
`23:12.18`	`mercestes`	`later guys.`
`23:12.21`	`linagee_`	`mercestes: you don't have to leave, but you can't stay here.`
`23:12.24`	`shellshark`	`mercestes: you're trying to sell some xoom crap?`
`23:12.30`	`mercestes`	`always`
`23:12.56`	`linagee_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:13.53`	`Younss`	`hehe`
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`23:17.07`	`Younss`	`so why just 29 channel`
`23:17.11`	`Younss`	`not 30?`
`23:17.45`	`dlynes_laptop`	`29 b channels and 1 d channel, if it's a pri, otherwise 30 channels if it's a channellized e1`
`23:18.45`	`Younss`	`please can you explain what is b & d`
`23:19.19`	`Strom_C_`	`dlynes_laptop, in E1, channel 16 is either CAS information or the D-channel for the PRI`
`23:19.37`	`bkruse`	`Strom_C: tahts what i thought`
`23:19.42`	`bkruse`	`16 and 32 right?`
`23:19.56`	`Strom_C_`	`it's not like T1 where a voice channel has to be robbed for signaling`
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`23:20.07`	`Strom_C_`	`bkruse, 0 and 16`
`23:20.25`	`bkruse`	`oh!`
`23:20.28`	`bkruse`	`really?`
`23:20.31`	`bkruse`	`dang`
`23:20.34`	`Strom_C_`	`0 is framing, 16 is signaling`
`23:20.40`	`bkruse`	`jbot: Strom_C++`
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`23:22.38`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Strom_C_: is that not still robbing a channel? i.e. channel 16?`
`23:22.55`	`Strom_C_`	`channel 16 is /always/ used for signaling`
`23:23.05`	`Strom_C_`	`there is no bit-robbing in E1`
`23:23.46`	`dlynes_laptop`	`and channel 24 is /always/ used for signalling on t1's too, right?`
`23:23.51`	`Strom_M`	`no`
`23:24.03`	`Strom_M`	`chanel 24 is a voice channel on a CAS t1`
`23:24.18`	`Strom_M`	`E1 doesn't have a framing bit like T1 does; E1 has a framing timeslot`
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`23:25.38`	`dlynes_laptop`	`cas t1 is a channelized t1 as opposed to a t1-pri?`
`23:25.52`	`ManxPower`	`dlynes_laptop: yes`
`23:25.58`	`Strom_M`	`yes`
`23:26.12`	`shellshark`	`dlynes_laptop: iirc you can provision a PRI to have the D-channel on any channel you wish`
`23:26.32`	`dlynes_laptop`	`shellshark: yeah, probably, but the default is to have it on 24`
`23:26.49`	`Strom_M`	`shellshark, yes, but convention dictates the D-channel on 24 in T1 and 16 in E1`
`23:27.15`	`shellshark`	`Strom_M: well, 23 anyway... doesnt the numbering start with 0?`
`23:27.26`	`Younss`	`so i understand that in E1 channel 16 will not be used for phoning`
`23:27.27`	`Strom_M`	`no, in T1, channel numbering starts with 1`
`23:27.32`	`shellshark`	`Strom_M: ah :)`
`23:27.37`	`dlynes_laptop`	`is there any benefit to having it somewhere other than channel 24?`
`23:27.44`	`bkruse`	`Strom_M: but in e1 it starts with 0?`
`23:27.46`	`ManxPower`	`dlynes_laptop: no.`
`23:27.47`	`dlynes_laptop`	`like for signal quality or something?`
`23:27.54`	`shellshark`	`dlynes_laptop: probably not :)`
`23:27.55`	`dlynes_laptop`	`so why make it adjustable, then?`
`23:27.59`	`pussfeller`	`with a queue, does round robin start from the first agent listed or, is it random`
`23:28.06`	`ManxPower`	`dlynes_laptop: most devices do not have it adjustable`
`23:28.23`	`ManxPower`	`pussfeller: depends on the method you use. see queues.conf.sample`
`23:29.33`	`bkruse`	`Strom_C: e1 starts at 0 but t1 starts at 1/`
`23:29.33`	`bkruse`	`?`
`23:29.55`	`ManxPower`	`why do you think E-1 starts at 0?`
`23:31.03`	`Strom_M`	`bkruse, yes`
`23:31.16`	`Strom_M`	`because 0 in E1 is the framing channel`
`23:32.07`	`Younss`	`there is any place for someone who don"t understand any thing of what you are saying`
`23:32.14`	`Strom_M`	`~thebook`
`23:32.16`	`jbot`	`i heard thebook is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`23:32.28`	`bkruse`	`Strom_M: awesome.......and i did read that once upon a time`
`23:32.33`	`bkruse`	`Strom_M: thank you :]`
`23:32.37`	`bkruse`	`jbot: Strom_M++`
`23:33.05`	`Strom_M`	`heh, karmaify only my main nick if you must :)`
`23:33.23`	`Strom_M`	`_M just means i'm on the laptop`
`23:33.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jbot: Schmuck++`
`23:33.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:O`
`23:33.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wheeeee`
`23:34.45`	`Younss`	`good night you're speaking alien language ;)`
`23:35.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Younss : Oh you mean English?`
`23:35.24`	`Younss`	`asterisk language`
`23:35.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:36.19`	`Younss`	`i can use dictinnary for english but what about asterisk lang`
`23:36.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~book`
`23:36.37`	`jbot`	`methinks book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`23:36.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~wikis`
`23:36.41`	`jbot`	`hmm... wikis is http://www.voip-info.org`
`23:37.09`	`Younss`	`thank you "jbot"`
`23:39.09`	`Younss`	`g night`
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`23:41.58`	`riddlebox`	`is 1.2.14 series not going to be maintained anymore then, so the next upgrade of asterisk will be to 1.4?`
`23:42.05`	`russellb`	`no`
`23:42.09`	`russellb`	`we will still fully maintain 1.2`
`23:42.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`riddlebox : I'll be maintained for a noticable while longer I'm sure, as 1.0 was`
`23:42.28`	`riddlebox`	`ohh ok`
`23:42.37`	`*** join/#asterisk sahafeez (n=sahafeez@ip68-6-223-92.sd.sd.cox.net)`
`23:42.47`	`russellb`	`there are a significant number of 1.2 installs`
`23:42.52`	`russellb`	`so we decided to keep supporting it`
`23:42.55`	`bkruse`	`[TK]D-Fender: i'll?`
`23:42.55`	`russellb`	`and will do so until 1.6`
`23:42.57`	`bkruse`	`:P`
`23:43.17`	`riddlebox`	`I am hoping to get my company to start selling asterisk solutions...if they would ever listen to me`
`23:43.43`	`russellb`	`asterisk <3`
`23:44.49`	`riddlebox`	`hey russellb could you maybe help me figure out why my intercom'ing and call-pickup doesnt work?`
`23:45.22`	`bkruse`	`:X`
`23:45.23`	`riddlebox`	`yeah I tried to set it up last night I got as far as getting the blf's to work but the rest I can`
`23:45.25`	`riddlebox`	`t`
`23:45.36`	`bkruse`	`russellb: he needs help setting up the linux with the asterisk, kthnx`
`23:45.56`	`russellb`	`i'm happy to help a lot of times, but right now i'm coding :/`
`23:46.16`	`Strom_M`	`bkruse, i need you to fixify my internets.`
`23:46.58`	`riddlebox`	`I used this guide, http://grandstream.com/FAQ/FAQ_and_Example_for_Asterisk_Configuration_for_GXP-2000.pdf`
`23:47.14`	`bkruse`	`Strom_M: okies!11!1one!oneone!1!`
`23:47.46`	`Strom_M`	`bkruse, so that PRI thing is SIP over PSTN right? or am I ATMing with txgain instead?`
`23:51.06`	`sbingner`	`has anybody used the Linksys SPA-2102?`
`23:52.20`	`*** join/#asterisk RahaiL (n=Rahail@209-19-88-240.detroit.mi.D-Conn.net)`
`23:53.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bkruse : it'll`
`23:53.46`	`Qwell[]`	`[TK]D-Fender: did you just fat finger a spacebar?`
`23:54.00`	`trelane`	`Qwell[], are you calling me fat? I AM OFFENDED!`
`23:54.06`	`trelane`	`(actual customer reply last week)`
`23:54.11`	`Qwell[]`	`nice`
`23:55.06`	`trelane`	`customer complains to customer's phb unit who speaks nulls to a business partner who laughs at customer's phb and explains what an idiot customer is`
`23:56.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : I "no" fingered the "t" key :)`
`23:56.44`	`*** part/#asterisk coldsteal (n=Natassha@CPE-65-30-209-146.wi.res.rr.com)`
`23:56.55`	`*** part/#asterisk psy65535 (n=psy65535@24-180-25-172.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com)`

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